The Sun.
London, England, 1850-06-20 00:00:00

FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE

ON MB GREEK AFFAIR.

No. 1. •
THE MARQUIS OF NORDIANBY To VISCOUNT PALDIEUSToN.
Paris, June 13, 1850.
My Lord,—l this morning communicated to General.
do Lahitte your Lordship's dispatch of yesterday's
date,
and read to him the inclosure from Mr. Wyse..l pointed
out to him the importance of the Tacts here detailed upon
those results cf which the French Government had con'
plained, and which we had ourselves regretted. Mr.Wyse objects that Baron Gros concealed from him the
intelligence which he had received by the Vauban, in'
forming him that a convention resprctiug the Greek
question had been agreed to in Paris and Loudon•
in order to bring this . matter, in which there had
been so much confusion on all aides, distinctly to *
point, I directed the General's attention specially to
the fact that the complaint of Mr. Wyse against
Baron Gros was founded on the statement he had
himself made in his letter to M. Droayn de Lbuys 0
the 14th of May, afterwards road to the Assembly, to
the effect that this had been done at a 'women; when *
convention negotiated directly.aed definitively agreed
upon in London was on the point of arriving at Athens+
where already the emends' bases of it were known.. I
said that Mr. Wyse had read this with extreme surPrin
as certainly, if all this had been known at Athens, it bad
never, up to the arrival of the &lota been. in any reepect
communicated to him; and inasmuch ns it was ID his
(Mr. Wyse's) estimation a serious impute Con that, it; •
the possession of such knowledge, lie deed refused, as had
been supposed, to await the short necessary time for
its
confirmation, on the other hand it *must be considered
grave charge against M. Gres that he bad concealed
such a fact from the person with woui he wee in
official relation, and with whom he elea essurael to be
in confidential communication; and if this ;ras really so'
upon him and him alone should fall all the reepenaihi"
lity of the consequences which had followed.
The general said that it was impcesible to read Baron
Gros's report of what had occurred, without seeing that
he could not have been actuated by any such feeling*
What could be his motive? It was as much his desire
as it was his duty to bring these matters to a :ermine'
Lion by the gciod (Bees of France. CoUld anybody ear
pose there was concealment behind tine letter which he
wrote upon the receipt of the Vauban? Did he n?s
ask Mr. Wyse to come and read his dispatches? Oka°
had been declined, and the mischief had arisen from We
never having been met in the same spirit by Mr. VV.32e*
I observou that the offer to come and look at his
dis-
patches was of value according as, in alluding to the",
contents, he had accurately stated what they were; but
how could any one suppose, in reading this letter, tne
ho had any knowledge cf a proposed convention neg°-
dated in London, when such a meet important fact wes
never aquded to from one end of the letter to the other.
I began to think that the beat mode of elearingoPt"
matter with General do Lahitte et as to go over with lute
all the dispatches which had been carried out byte ~°
Vauban, which could bear upon this partief the sub)e.c"
This the General readily agreed to do, and befog
finished their perusal, I told the General candidly, that
I could see nothing in them to justife the expressit
used in his dispatch to M. Drouyn de Lhur, that tu"
essential bases of a convention negotiated in London
were at that time known at Athens. I entreated hie
serious attention to the bearing this point must have
upon all future discussions. It was evident flow, that
the blame imputed to Mr. Wyee for' haviug acted in t.'"
haa
face of such knowledge could not be sustained; either
that knowledge had been concealed from him at Athens,
or it had not been in the power of Baron Gros to caw
municate it; and if so, I was sure he would, with the
candour which I had always experienced on his part, 13°
ready ti admit that ho had put some very incautiotis
expressions into a very grave document.
The General said that it was easy to explain what
be
had meant, that the alterations in the original project °
Mr. Wyse reed M. Gros had formed the bases of the ecni
vention of London, and this bad been in the progre3s,e
negotiation. I begged the General to remark that, if L°
would read carefully this letter of Baron Geo, •";"
would find that ha bad not succeeded in conveying any
such ideate the mind of Baron Gros, or if (as it now 013-
peered, certain) there had been no wilful coucealinent
the Baron's part, had he derived the same impression„
on
from the dispatches by the Vauban, which had been con.
veyed to M. Daman de ',buys in the dispatch of the aith
ad
May, which I now remembered with increased regret h
been read from the tribune of the Assembly, an unusoLd
proceeding, which deneacded peculiar care in the an"
curacy of the expressions used. In that dispatch it °.esi
stated that the convention, "of which the essential
bases were already known," was then cn the point
arriving at Athens. But what says Baron Gum on tbl;
head? Whet does he propose to Mr. Wyse? Thai a 4,
-
should submit M. Gros's proposititions to the Bill"t
Cabinet, and await his instructions, and he adds, the
be will send off the Vauban with one and the other
project. How is this reconcileable with the assertion
that the convention of Loudon was known to be on the_
point of arriving ? If Baron Gros was sincere, the
General then must admit that that assertion was ins
accurate. I was sure I might trust to the • General
known good faith to allow that ho had been in err"fit
here.
The General said that he would exa; carefoil?i
into the question; that eves if :he bud ne expreoel
himself very correctly in this respect, -tin hoPleill
Which the French Government had agate' of

.mine
.1,3 co)
Aganist.that
gland remained still in full i'orca, and was pointed out iJ
this very letter of M. Gros, where ho as I bah,
quoted, to the ref; recce home, and the.Suspeniion in
interval of coercive measures; that tour tunes at dil'er:;
cut intervals your Lordohip had promised .M. not to
do Lhnys that such instructions sholaid he sent 00"
Mr. 'Wyse; that from the Ist of March they had boen
acting on the faith that those promises had been cf.";
cuted, and it was to the oinimion in that respect tu*
these results were to be attributed.
I told the General I thought what bad P358,i,
upon the principal sui,j...et cf our conversation th'
morning would show him that it was better on peit'bee
side to impute supposed omissions or mistakes fr
conduct of complicated affairs of this nature to
good faith ; that if the question was still *prose, '
in a different spirit, as I had always wished to trot te,
hoped in consideration of the great interests at 5t
this matter might be brought to a satisfactory ectc
sion.—l have, &c.,
NoIotANDY,

(Siburd)

I.\`(). 2. -
THE MARQUIS OF NORMANDY TO VISCOUNT PAL 142.7
Paris, June 14,10''oe
My Lord,—l have again seen General do 'AIWA,
wished to have sonic conversation with me after liottr,
had au opportunity of considerirg the contents of by
Wyse's dispateli of the 31st of Ma)-. He bcg° to
stating that the phrase qucted by Mr. Wyse, long
which I had so specially called his attention yeste'7o;
was not the part of that dispatch of the 14th of MO* or
which the French Government had founded theirc°,,
plaint of the conduct in this affair of her Majesty o 00,
vernnaent. It was to be found in the earlier 1301,13,0
of that dispatch, and consisted in the feet thtli to
insttuctions to carry out the promises given, tlet of
prevent the renewal of coercive measures' in the 00,4,0
a difference of opinion between the negotiators:
ever been sent to Athens in time to avert the olirfieet
which had occurred. As to the next Paragraph, I is7of
observe that it stated what had been the conseque°de
such an omissicn. With respect to the statereentirneeJt
by him, and by which Mr. Wye.° had supposed 00
aggrieved, that the essential bases.of the pro Posed
ea WI
vontion of London were then known at Athens, e; toots
meant that all the essential chaeges which lia‘ie
made in the projects sent home, ou which ehovgell,
founded the subsequent convention; were detailed I 0
biee
Drouyn l'Huys' dispatch of-the 9 of APO, Igie
had been sent out by the Vauban, and
,therefere, eh;
Wyeo W 11,3 left in any error as to what was rallYrd
out by the Vauban, it was hit; own .fahlt;"aarhe (tree to
fused the candid and friendly offer, made-by that
show him all his kdispatches. Had he acoefil'eataw
offer, he would have been in full possession of 00 —Ail:
state of the case. I told the• General that I wzistbet
obliged to repeat what I had said yesterdokottd
thought the phrase he had himself used was ot 001
to lead Mr. Wyse into ,the error into -Whine". to the
fallen; that the general impression derived ,'l9d been,
phrase must have been, and indeed I knew bole(
that the bases of the convention of Londolliotest
then and there known, and • its pro xilnateit ••h due
_
being at the same time spoken of, it was Loos
cognizance of these facts that the. coercive lon*"01. the
were resumed. Now, this was direetly,the relOrgres did
truth; not only Mr. Wyse did not, but bf_ell'ar into;
not, know of the proximate arrival of any firth j
bad
ligeuce of a convention agreed to in Loudon, „"opo.,§a`
shown yesterday; because, on the contraryebn,'ritratoxa
to send their projects to London., Yet I .htid fe ottits
Wyse attacked in many quarters for not /1011 00106
the two or three days necessary for receiving, 40. tbe,s
convention, the essential provisions of Which 61046
known. This accusation was founded oo the
to to-bear
words. I was convinced he did not mean th.e teelr°o
any such signification, but this was an 00 eet-
of the disadvantage of giving premature' ie Or-
documente of that grave charaCter, when ;ball „,
sions might not have been very well welelea' opposition
The General said I was certainly.riett,:fildieeant„teo
he had no such intention. He could not nfilistes 1°1" 0.
say anything so obviously inconsistent with. tte, Ville
to everybody. He was perfectly ready,to I:0
ever bo had occasion, that he had never . vv Y „
aggravation of their complaint, to impute o,
.;;; htivlotib.
that he had refused to wait two or three nti tne cno
at the time any knowledge of the existeeo° ofterect
vention of Loneert. Th;, General then Go ,ed or'
0 so. • • 08,
some criticisms of the 'cloning which hi motto ,
Wyse t have founded upon the erroneone sitleirotthioe/‘
hut as this has now no practical bearing,l
it necessary to trouble your Lordship vvit1i4;141.034.
oelitieve t
&c. (Signed)

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Loc AL SELF- GOVERN mENT.--Yesternay 0 great-
was held at the Kings' Arms Hotel, Bridge-street, .; ()cal
minster, of the Society for Maintaining and lixtendiligilo,
Self-Government in opposition to Centralization; gr:' AtallY
of Birmingham, in the chair. The proceedings pralw,-a4 00
related to thl progress of the Public Health Act, an .o;iiied
resolutions come to at a late meeting in the same place, Act.
for the special purpose of considering the clauses of th.;vited
Mr. Toulmin Smith, who was one of a committee nn i•
. ifn•
at that meeting, spoke' at considerable length- upon tu'lt to
portance of opposing the alleged tendency of Goverione‘ eat
centralization, and showed that the society had in I\4l;;Aa
of _ ,.n to oppose measure been the means of
cb
i)r, c
teitleaßatillit
liivaes
I,loign,
dpbre::ent,i7 t_ho-rt:vinu:::
tom, the
and Wolverhampton being included ..Tnong the town, "`, tho .
nilld7beh'eal:eg L.c 3 moving a
.-,,
~..1 st., •
order
the constitutional protection afforded bY the sta.lcoi
cly.s:ei ijare)oraiit
course tit)
j3a,t
wschninit.i-ri,sciol.
3..t.i_ori,
wa of both Houses of Parliament, the Public Ilealti)lact3
s
l at trereiptedotioheb; introduced 1010
inh'ol..su`
internal Organization
of the society, and the means hY 'I bp'
'Health or other Acts were to be obtained,
the funds ', the PI •
~
to carry oa its opposition to .- oar•
mously carried, and after a vote of thanks to the GI
he meeting dispersed. wh'reter7e!tri:lianeng:"..nitt:llobitoilici°

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