The Sun.
London, England, 1868-06-29 00:00:00

HER MAJESTY'S SHIP BRISTOL-

Her Majesty's ship Bristol, the training ship for
naval cadets, arrived in the Tagus on the 27th inst. ;
all well. She will remain 14 days at Lisbon, and
afterwards proceed to Gibraltar.
Admiralty, June 29, 1868.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS—Tins EVENING.
The Loan CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.

THIRD READINGS.

Tottenham and liampstead Juuetiou Railway; South-
E tstern aud London, Chatham, aud Dover. (Loudon,
Lewes, aud Brigbtou) Itailways(Abaudoutuout) Bilk were
road a third Ijtue aud passed.

P.,IIRS BILL. -
his bill was road a sec° A. that) tin,..
E3TABLISIIED CLILTRJII (IRELIND) BILL.

The a‘ljuureed debit;; oa thu aiii,ula.tut that this bill
b.;•read a secoud Litho this day six mouths WstS restunt d
this evehit“.

The Doke of Alrd YLL, as mover of th ) adjournment,
being iu possession of the house. II:s lordship said
that it was u,l pas >del I or desirable that CAI doiedte
should be confined wititio the limits of the bill before us.
There were other iini»rtaut subjects suriouudiug it that
ought to be introduced into the m awn There wds
a duty which those iaterested iu the bill ought to
perform, and that was that they ought to give
to the Irish people an imperial varautea that this impor-
tant bill would be given ultimately to them, au i he be-
lieved that not even an adverse vote on this bill
would repudiate it. They had made the disesta-
blishment of the Irish Church a great party
question, and he did not deny it. For this they had been
censured by the bench of bishops and by' the members of
the house. The noble duke, the President of the Council,
had told them that thoirpolicy was a dishonest policy.-But
those offensive expressions excited no auger in his
mind. He would tell the noble dukes and earls
opposite that no such motives actuated them. Il e
held it to b 3 the duty of great party loaders to introduce
great questions, and not to be withheld fro:n bringing
them forward. He would be surprised to hear that their
policy had been stig matis ed as dishonest. The =duct of the
party to which he belonged had always been the first to
precipitate any great measure ; take, for instance,
the question of Reform ; it was their object
to obtain it, and now it was their bounden
duty to connect their feelings in concert with
their own political body, and there would be no
greater test of their sincerity than to connect their own
opinions with the fortunes of their own political party.
(Hear, hear.) They wished to save the funds of the lrisb
Church, and this was quite at variance with the „opinion s
of a noble lord, who said that the funds of the Irish
Church were so great that he proposed to divide them
between six millions of ' the Irish people. It
was most important to preserve these funds
from being wasted. They all knew there were more
bishops than were necessary, and more livings than people
to support them, and he asserted that every year they lost
they were spending money which might be consoli -
dated. They wore every year by rejecting this bill
doing nothing but pure_mischief by allowing money
to be uselessly spent. He wished to say another word on
this bill, that was the bearing that it had to the Resolu-
tions in the House of Commons. It was urged that there
might be a quibble on the part of the Opposition that the
word disendowment was not used in theßesolutions in the
House of Commons, but that the word " disestablish-
Ment " would be, supplied. Now, no human being
thought of such a thing as total disendowment—it was
only a question how far the disendowineut should
go; and those who voted on this bill were quite
at liberty to go as far as they choose with the
question of disendowment. This was a bill for the par-
pose of saving a waste of funds and nothing else, and the
ultimate disposal of these funds would be question for the
the house to determine hereafter. The reason why
bishops were not appointed to sees where their
a.nouut of emolument would be uncertain, was that
they considered it impossible to ask high officers of the
Church to be appointed under such conditions, and there-
fore they introduced the clause that during such intermis-
sion no appointment should be made. Another prelate had
stated that such a condition of the church would kill
it by inches, and if he thought se he should oppose the
bill. But he, however, considered that the bill would in-
troduce such a train of consequences that a compromise
would take place in one or two years, and
that would effect the object in view. Public
men have convictions, as all would well
know, which they could not put iut t shape, and this was
the case with the Liberal party with regard to the Irish
Church. The noble duke thou alluded to the sentiments
formerly expressed by Mr. G:adstone, and said that he
must protest against these (potations, as he did not think
that he quoted the exact words.

The Rug of DERBY—Yes I did, 1 assure you.

The Duke of ARGYLL said that he would, however,
refer to the sp4)ch of Mr. Ufa lstone of March 23, 1858.
This speech was unfavourable to the Irish Church,
and there was not oae sentiment unfavourable to
the Irish Church that the right honourable
gentleman did not traverse, but there was not one sen-
tence which was inconsistent with what he now proposed.
What was the use of charging them and twitting thorn
that they did not bring forward the question of the dises-
tablisoment of the Irish Church?

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS—Tars EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at •1 o'clock.
QUEEN'S COUNSELLORS.

Mr. LABOUC HERE asked the Secretary of State for the
Homo Department whether he would object to lay upon
the table of the House a return, from the time when the
late Lord Chancellor Brougham became Lord Chancellor, of
the number of barristo:s who have received patents of pre-
cedency and patents constituting them of counsel to th 3
Crown, commonly called Queen's counsel or King's coun-
sel ; distinguishing in such return the number of barristers
receiving such patents respectively during the holding of
the Great Seal by each Lord Chancellor respectively ; and
stating the date of the call to the bar of each such bar-
rister.

Mr. G. HARDY said if a return were moved for there
would be no opposition, but he could not see that any ad-
vantage would be der vied from the issue of such return.
THE ORNAMENTAL WATER IN REGENT'S PARK.

Mr. lIANKEY asked the First Commissioner of Works
whether his attention had been called to the way in which
the work connected with the OrnamentAl Water in the
Regent's Park is being carried out, and whether the gra-
dients have not been made at an angle extremely dan-
gerous in the event of any person, especially children,
slipping into the water.
Lord J. MANNERS had had his attention called to the
subject, but he was inclined to thing that the angle was
just what it ought to be—(laughter)—but the subject was
still under consideration.