The Sun.
London, England, 1868-10-20 00:00:00

THE EXPECTED RETURN OF DR. LIVINGSTONE.

The safety of Dr. Livingstone is now placed beyond
doubt. Thereat Sir Roderick Murchison rejoices
greatly. In a letter to the Times he points out how
correct he has been in all his predictions.. Even the
route of his journey homewards Sir Roderick marked
out. It appears that Livingstone has been
living during three months with friendly Arabs,
and waiting for the close of a native war
before proceeding on his way to Ujiji ; and he
told the Arab messenger that after exploring Lake
Tanganyika-he intended to return to'Zanzibar. His
further delay may be accounted, for by the fact that
when he wrote he was unaware of what discoveries
had been made by Sir Samuel Baker. The map of Baker
has been transmitted to hiM. In Sir, Roderick's opinion
Livingstone would at once see from `it that " it was
more than ever incumbent on him to, try to solve the
great problem of the Niletic watershed of Africa, by
determining whether these great lakes are united or
separated by high lands, and, if separated, by ascer-
taining into what river system Tanganyika dis-
charges its surplus waters.' He- would, in doing
this, be once again prevented from making imme-
diately for the coast. But it is by no means impro-
bable that he will be at Zanzibar before Christmas.

A CHALLENGE TO MR. GLADSTONE.

The Rev. R. J. M'Ghee advances to fight the leader
of the Opposition, fearlessly asking " Who is this
Philistine ?" and armed only with a sling and a stone.
The stone is what the reverend gentleman considers
" the Truth," and the sling to carry it home to the
conscience of the nation is a jury to investigate the
question as to whether the miseries of Ireland are to
be attributed to the Established Church or
to the sinister influence of the Pope. The
giant, however, refuses to fight, not even
deigning to answer the reverend gentleman's
letters. In his trouble Mr. M'Ghee finds shelter in
the columns of the Advertiser, which publishes his
last letter to Mr. Gladstone, an effusion of Mr.
mulfida.which.reat trWAIL ii_werta..a

hoax, or ha,ci been written from Hanwell: Tne
names of the jury are, mil- abile dietu, the Hon. and
Rev. Baptist Noel, Rev. Newman Hall, Rev'
Mr. Spurgeon, Rev. Mr. Burney, Rev. Mr.
Arthur, Rev. Mr. Martin, Samuel Morleh
Esq., Edward Miall, Esq., Sinclair Aytoun, Esc'',
m.p., the Editor of the Times, James Grant, Escl•
(editor of the Morning Advertiser), and the Editor of
the Pall Mall Gazette. When Mr. INlGhee gets, a
report upon Church matters drawn up and signed by
all the members of this commission, without apY
reservations or exceptions, it will doubtless receive
Mr. Gladstone's attention.

ARGUMENT AND ABUSE.
The rev. gentleman who declared that Mr. Glad"
stone had been appointed general by a king who
not, according to the commonly received opinions,
a model of righteousness, does not appear to be alone
in his idea of the functions performed in the SatanLc
army by the leader of the Opposition. A clergyman
of the same town, at a meeting attended by one
M.P. and the son of another, manifested extreme
anger at the expression bein described as villanons.
I can only say this, that if to speak the truth be
villanous, if to speak the truth boldly be villano°°,
nen I for one glory in it. I say tef,
because I feel strongly on it; and I will not hesitaLav
to say that he who deprives the people of Engin'
of the great and glorious freedom, religious as we
as civil, which has been obtained by the blood of our
forefathers—that man, call him by what name 3T°ll
like, ought to be execrated and scouted from human
society." These gentlemen amuse us too much to
make us care to deprive them of their freedom
They are but a few out of the many who, taking o
ft.
granted that a certain disastrous effect will foli'
from a certain cause, attribute to those wll2
have originated the cause the desire 1"
produce that effect. It is nothing to this
clergyman that Mr. Gladstone believes the disestl
blishment of the Irish Church will tend to civil an
religious freedom. Not only does the clergy"
believe believe the contrary, but he argues that Mr. Olt;
stone believes it too, and is acting out of wick'
malice.

MR. LAIRDS WORKING MAN.

Mr. Laird, the Conservative candidate, has been
addressing the electors of Birkenhead. He hadna
fine specimen of the Conservative working man, Ifiw
bawled out to the meeting that he " stood there as
witness of the meek and lowly Jesus," and was fol
"Tory principle," and " Laird for ever." There ensue!
confusion, and remonstrances from his friends, but he
proceeded to say that " if Mr. Gladstone was wise;
than Jehovah-" The sentence was not finisbeuf
for the audience could not suffer the name the Jer
dare :not utter to
.be used thus. They sPeedl,
drowned his voice with . groans. The Conservativ."
working man hakbetteileave oratory alone.

THE IRISH CHURCH.
On the Irish Church we have a flood of talk. It
seems as if everybOdy and his brother determined
" add their little items to the discussion." And s"
we have arguments upon arguments over and ova;
again, till even the rankest Tory must be almost ~lea
to wish that the Irish Church had never existou;
Here .are two clerical opinions. The Rector
Liverpool thinks a compromise might be effectecial
though it is not for "an humble individu
like himself " to propose the nature °
it. Still he suggests, as a " peaceful diger
tanglement of the Gordian knot," that
should -"hot sit in the House of Lords 311,,
that the Church should be denuded of 1167,
political privileges. "A Middlesex Incumbent
thinks Mr. Gladstone's proposal meets the fair clam
of the Church. He therefore signed the petition
from 300 clergymen to the House of Lords. But 11
is much troubled about the " residue " of the Church
property. He thinks the scheme of national edil„.„°3'
tion has failed; he therefore does not support a 1:47'„
giving the money to schools ; but he wishes the P°°'
to have it.

- -
The Rev. G. R. Gleig, Chaplain-General of the
Forces, has written a letter to the Times, which I'll
been rejected. He therefore sends it to the Hera"
thanking the editor of the Times for admitting sci
much of his argument already. Mr. Gleig does 'l9t
,
question the abstract fitness or unfitness of Nb'
Gla,dstone's policy. He simply maintains that it
not in accord with the ancient Constitution of thee!
realms, and that it will bring about a social revoluti°'
of which no human forethought can point the issues'
The case of Scotland is no precedent. No disende;
ment or disestablishment took place in Scotland
years ago, but the mere transference of the endoVe
ments and the status of the Establishment from et,
Church to another. The change of Churches
Scotland was brought about when it was a distill:
State. He objects to the doctrine that the &son;
blishment and disendowment of the Irish Chid
will not affect the supremacy of the Queen, sill
shews the different positions of the Establish
Church and Dissenting communities in their relatiow
with the State.

THE "RECORD " AND THE ARCHDEACON.
There is a quarrel between the Record newspalt
and Archdeacon Allen, and as the newspaper likes ,`"
have all the scolding to itself, the editor refuses;
admit the clergyman's letters to its columns.
~T.ch
archdeacon had made a speech at Shrewsbury, wsui,e
was commented upon by a correspondent of it
Record, signing himself "Nestor." The venerable Oct,
deacon wrote. a letter to the editor in answer
this, and the result was a paragraph as follovi's..,,
" Archdeacon Allen has been lately exhibited
having untruly accused the Record of 'slander,' 1311._
he has neither apologised nor retracted. We cann°l
therefore, place the columns of the Record 1104
his disposal for the insertion of other ellarF—
against its correspqndents, equally grouneure
and insulting." The archdeacon appeals to
Daily News to insert his protest, and not in
In it we fail to see anything to discredit ellech
such a temperate and impartial journal as the Reel n
He thinks that a letter speaking "evil of dignitle:b
should have the writer's name. He objects to 01,9
expressions as " the Lambeth parturition " and
viper," and questions the taste which characterls73
the debates of the bishops as " a bray." "
words spoken in. Convocation may be unretot
only our Master can judge whether they be so. But
Convocation does not, assume anything. It clainis__,
meet under the Queen's license. It rests on ceie
ancient precedents. The proctors may be inadeclu..„a a
representatives, but they are bond fide elected;
in some sense they do represent the clergy. As ill
colonial bishops, only our Master can tell what is 0
their hearts; no one, however, should attribute to the
motives, as ' desire of personal aggrandisement.' ''

THE S. P. C. R. GRANT.
Some further correspondence on this subjecti
appears in the Times. Mr. Fitz Roy, editoro
the John Bull, who proposed the grant of £2,
which has given rise to so much controversy, Co
tends that no one could have been taken by surer'
since the Record and the Spectator alike urged thei.o
readers to be present to oppose the grant, and.
Guardian contained a letter from Mr. Fitz Roy nwa :
self, urging both supporters and opponents to atte),
The sum propcsed was only half of that originr
suggested. Moreover, the grant was, it is contenej
a thoroughly legitimate one. A lady has left £25,u74
for distribution in various dioceses; why should
p eut
Natal have its share ? and if it ought, the grii 0
must be made independent of the bishop, for his
does not appear in the society's almanack. The Re a
W. G. Humphry, treasurer of the society, an
brother-in-law of Bishop Colenso, writes that as 'of
society numbers among its subscribers membersq
every school in the Church, and as the grant, be
assuming the deposition of Bishop Colenso, mgt
offensive to those who do not acknowledge .44
transaction, it is essential, if the society's neutral
and harmony are to be preserved, that the gift,'
should be rescinded. It is for this reason that he '"of
given notice to that effect for tb,e meeting.-
December 1.

THE CHURCH Or THE POOR.
It is announced that the receipt of pa3rinents.,.!l
any shape whatever for sittings in Exeter Cath&O!3
is an infringement of the rules of the Dean rtp
Chapter, and the public are particularly requested a,
abstain from the practice. The worst of it is wol
as in the case of the railway guards, the public vilo,
abstain ; but it is satisfactory to find that the an"6lv.
rities do not intend to encourage the vergers in 1(.3_7,4
?rig black mail.

FOREIGN NOTES.

THE THRONE OP SP4IN.

Save that all indications point to the contintaiiEgArailitne'
nonarchy, the future government of Spain is as dolll)''':its
is ever. In Paris there is a rumour that Aiw-f
Provisional Government has inquired in a frieTl-1,,s
nanner what choice would be most favours wig
it the Tuileries. Whether this inquiry has li '
A—
made directly or through Prince Napoleon is doub;s
'mt it is said that the Duke of Montpensier has bag
finally tabooed ; and it is further reported that f
Empress is doing her utmost to promote the interests ".
the grandson of Don Carlos. The Times Paris corresVfild,'
'lent thinks the chances are in favour of Fermat i
father of the King of Portugal. This opinion is 011'..41
by the Spectator. "According to a letter f'irs
Madrid, Prim, Serrano, and Olozaga are agreed 9:0
preferring this prince. We know that 0101
eyes have long been turned in that directiot
And it is certain that France, if consulted, -would tit
abject to the choice." The Times special corsespoude7t
ventures no suggestion as to what will be, but is 110,
positive as to what will not be. Queen Isabella willzlv°oo
recalled ; a republic will not be established ; and
will not be representative of the inevitable monarchP glet,
may be at the head of the Government, but he Will
aspire to the throne.

PROGRESS OF THE REVOLUTION. 4
Isolated cases of outrage. are still reported frow
• - th trnemsa_w_hieh committed eackfAc#C