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London, England, 1844-03-28 00:00:00

COUNTY COURTS.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM gave notice that he should,
on Friday next, move for leave to bring in a Bill to re-
gulate county courts in England and Wales.
The House then adjourned.

RAILWAY BUSINESS IN PARLIA.

MENT.

Maryport and Carlisle Railway Bill,—Read a second time,
and committed, and referred to the Committee of Selection.
Colchester and Harwich Railway (No. 2) Bill,—Read a
second time, and committed, and referred to the Committee
of Selection.

Manchester and Birmingham Railway (Macclesfield and
Poynton Branches) (No. 2) Bill,—Reported; Report to lie
on the table, and to be printed.
Norwich and Brandon Railway Bill,—Report considered;
amendments agreed to; Bill to be ingrossed.
York and Scarborough Railway Bill,—Report considered ;
amendments agreed to ; Bill to be ingrossed.

Midland Railways Consolidationll,—Reperted ; Report
to lie on the table, and to be printed. _

Furness Railway Bill,—Reported ; Report to lie on the
table, and to be printed.
Guildford Junction Railway Bill,—Report considered ;
amendments agreed to ' • Bill to be ingrossed.
Brighton, Lewes, and Hastings Railway Bill,—Read a
second time, and committed, and referred to the Committee
of Selection.

London and South Western Railway (No. 1) Bill,—Read
a second time, and committed, and referred to the Committee
of Selection. •

THE AMENDED POOR-LAW BILL.

DEPUTATION TO SIR JAMES GRAHAM.

On Tuesday, a meeting of delegates from the following me-
tropolitan parishes, viz., St. Marylebone, St. Georges, Han-
over-square, St. James's, Westminster, St. Pancras, St. Mar-
garet and St. John, Westminster, St. Mary, Islington, St.
Leonard, Shoreditch, and St. Luke, Old-street, took place in
the Court-house, Marvlebone, for the purpose of proceeding
as a deputation to the 1-Lome-office, to urge upon Sir James
Graham their objections to the provisions of the Amended
Poor-law Bill, and to solicit him to exempt all parishes
under local Acts from the operations of its provisions.
The deputation, which was very numerously attended,
proceeded in carriages to the Home-office, where they were
joined by the following Members of Parliament :—G. Byng,
Esq., and Colonel T. Wood, the county members; Sir C.
Napier, T. Wakley, Esq., and T. S. Duncembe, Esq., Sir B.
Hall being absent, owing to the illness of his son.
The Right Hon. Mr. Frankland Lewis, one of the Poor-
law Commissioners, was present with Sir James Graham.
Sir C. NAPIER introduced the object the deputation had in
view to Sir James Graham, and said, that the parishes re-
presented by the delegates present, considered that the
Amended Poor-law Bill would seriously interfere with their
local interests upon several points; viz., in the mode of
appointing auditors, and in the creation of asylums and dis-
trict schools.

Sir J. GRAHAM said he thought that he had better state the
alterations which he was willing to make in the amended
Bill. In doing so he was of opinion that it would reduce tie
matter in dispute to a very small compass. With regard to
the 17th clause, in reference to the division of parishes into
wards for the election of guardians, and which was worded
in such a manner as to be considered ambiguous, as to whe-
ther it applied to parishes having local Acts or not, he
would remove that ambiguity by stating that that mode of
election would be confined to parishes under the Poor-law
Act, and not to extend to those having local ones. The 56th
clause which bears more with parishes having local Acts, the
proviso to which is a restraint on the existing law and not
an extension of the law, he thought there could be no objection
to. To the earlier part of the clause an objection had
been stated by the Hon. Gentleman (Sir C. Napier) very
correctly of what he (Sir J. Graham) had said on a
former occasion as to its object, which was to ensure at-
tendance of guardians under local Acts at least once a fort-
night, as under the Poor-law Act. Indeed, they meet less
frequently than once a fortnight under some local Acts,
and in some cases only the Chairman had been found in at-
tendance. With respect to those two clauses all difficulty
would be removed, and then the only question remaining
would be those of the auditors, the asylums and the district
schools. _ _ _ _

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Sir C. NAPIER said that the parishioners of St. Marylebone
felt that the interference of the Poor-law Commissioners was
not required with reference to the proposed asylums, as their
workhouse was open day and night for the reception of the
destitute poor. He (Sir C. Napier) had gone through the
workhouse, and as well as he was able to judge, it was well
conducted, so far as health and cleanliness, together with the
education of the children, were concerned

Mr. G. DANIELL, ofMarylebone, stated the different grounds
of apprehension entertained by the deputation that the Bil
would affect parishes having local Acts.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he had endeavoured to remove every
difficulty, except as to the district schools, the audit, and the
asylums, and he was disposed to take the opinion of the
House on the extension, so limited, as to parishes under local
Acts. He was there to receive the observations they might
make. Why (as to that limited extent), parishes having
local Acts should not be brought under the same general foot-
ing as other parishes.
Mr. DANIELL said, if the 28th clause, which appointed audi-
tors under the control of the Poor-law Commissioners, passed
in its present shape, in connection with the latter part of the
sGth clause, the entire independence of boards of guardians
would be annihilated, and the wholesome control of parishes
under local Acts over their own expenditure be entirely abo-
lished. With respect to the proposed district schools, they
considered that not only a vast and unnecessary increase of
expense would be incurred, but that the removal of children
fifteen or twenty miles from their own parish, would rather
increase than diminish the evils of pauperism ; and as re-
garded the proposed establishment of district asylums for
the destitute, they objected to such a principle, on the ground
that they would tend to increase pauperism and incur expense.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE. M.P., said the real fact was, that the
metropolitan parishes were perfectly satisfied with the pre-
sent state of things, and desired that the Poor-law Commis-
sioners should not have the power to interfere with them in
any way. They felt that they were quite competent to ma-
nage their own affairs, and that if the amended Bill were car-
ried in its present shape, the effect would be to place them at
the feet of the Poor-law Commissioners.

Sir J. GRAHAM said his principal object in the proviso of
the 56th clause was merely to compel boards of guardians in
parishes having local Acts, to meet as often as parishes under
the New Poor-law--at least once a fortnight.
Mr. DUNCOMBE could not see the necessity of such a pro-
viso, for the guardians of the metropolitan parishes under
local Acts met oftener than under the Poor-law—always once
and sometimes twice a week. It was absurd, therefore, to
give the Poor-law Commissioners power to issue regulatians
compelling them to do so.
Sir J. GnArrAm—There were some parishes under local
Acts, in which boards of guardians did not meet oftener than
once in six weeks, and a uniformity in such cases both for
the benefit of the ratepayers and the poor was necessary.
Members of the deputation from other parishes having
urged upon Sir J. Graham various grounds of objection,
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE asked, would Sir J. Graham undertake
to pledge himself to insert a general clause exempting all
parishes having local Acts from the operations of the Bill ?
Sir J. GRAHAM said lie was not prepared at once that day
to give such a pledge. He should, however, certainly deli-
berate upon the representations made by so numerous and
respectable a deputation, and he should feel it his duty to
represent to the Government the arguments which had been
adduced by the delegates from the metropolitan parishes.
Mr. DUNCOMBE said, under such circumstances he would
suggest to the deputation that they should leave the matter
for the present entirely in the hands of Sir J. Graham.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the deputation might depend
upon it that their representation should receive his best at-
tention.

The delegates then withdrew, and adjourned again to the
MaryleboneCourt-house, where a general meeting of a larger
number of deputies from the various metropolitan parishes
had, pursuant to notice, assembled to receive their report.
Mr. DANIELL having been re-appointed to the chair,
statement was made as to what had transpired at the Home-
office ; and, after a long discussion, it was agreed to appoint
a joint committee of all the parishes to watch the Bill, and
to ascertain front Sir J. Graham his final decision on the point
submitted to him.
A vote of thanks having been given to the Chairman and
the deputation, the meeting separated.

IMPROVEMENT OF THE QUADRANT...I:WahI the
last ten years several attempts have been made by the inha-
bitants of the Quadrant, to render the Quadrant as a street
what it ought to be—one of the best streets at the 'West-end ;
but hitherto all attempts of thii,kind have proved futile, until
at last the nuisances have become so enormous that the re-
spectable portion of the inhabitants have formed themselves
into an association for their removal, and with every possible
chance of success. Beadles have been appointed to peram-
bulate the Quadrant in green uniform, having warrants, as
special constables, from the Commissioners of Police. This
has already proved of great service in removing prostitutes,
who have made the Quadrant a special rendezvous for years
past, dog-fanciers, and well-known thieves. Active mea-
sures are now being taken to remove all the houses of ill-
fame in its immediate vicinity; and, lastly, though not least,
the billiard-houses, which are in a blaze of light every night,
and all night, Sunday not excepted. The Commissioners of
Police and the parochial authorities have promised to give
every assistance they possess, so that there is every reason to
believe that the Quadrant will still form a portion of the first
street in the world.

MAJORITY—AYES, 99.
Agliohby, H. A.—Cockennotzth HodgsonAttd.—Berwick-on 'I weed
Ainsworth, P.—Bolton Hume, Joseph—Montrose, &c.
Aldan], William—Le ds Humphery, John—Southwark
Bailey, Joseph—Worcester Hutt, W.—Gateshead
Barnard, E. G.—Greenwich Inglis, Sir R. H.—Ox. University
Bei kat, W.—Leeds James, William—Cumberland
Bereslord, Major—Harwich Jones, T.—Londonderry Co.
Blake, Martin J.—Galway Lennox, Lord A.—Chichester
Bowring, Dr.—Bolton Macaulay, T B —Edinburgh
Bramston, T. W.—Essex South Mackenzie, Thomas—Ross.shlre
Broadley, Henry—East Yorkshire Mackinnon, W. A.—Lymington
Brotherton, J.—Salford Mahon, Viscount— Hertford
Bruges, W. H. L.—Devizcs Mangles, R. D.—Guildford
Bu-kley, E.—Newcastle-on.Tyne.Marshall, Wm.—Carlisle
Busfeild, William—Bradford 'Westerman, J.—London
Butler, Hon. P.—Kilkenny Co. Mitcalfe, H.—Tynemouth
Chetwode,, Sir J.—Buckingham Mitchell T. A.—Bridport
Cobden, R.—Stockport Morris, b.—Carmarthen
Colvile, C.—South Derby Muntz, G. F.—Birmingham
Copeland W.—Stoke.upon.Trent O'Connell, Daniel—Cork Co.
Cowper, Hon. W. F.—Hertford O'Connell, M. J.—Kerry
Curteis H. B.—Rye Patten, J. Wilson—Lancashire
Darby, George—East Sussex Pechell, Captain—Brighton
Davies, D. A. —Carnaar thenshire Peel, Col. Jonathan—Huntingdoss
Divett, Edward—Exeter Plumridge, Captain—Pe...lyr, and
Dodd, G.—Maidstone Falmouth
Douglas, Sir C. E.—Warwick Powell, Colonel—Cardiganshire
Dugdale, W. S.—Warwickshire Rendlesham, Lord—East Sudellt
Duncan, Viscount—Bath Ross, David Robert—Belfast
Dusidas' Admiral—Greenwich Round, Charles Gray—Essex N.
Evans, William—North Derby Round, John—Maldon
Ellice, Edward—St. Andrew's Rumbold, C. E.—Yarmouth
Ewalt, Wi I I lam— Dumfr i e s Russell, C.—Reading
Feilden, W. J.—Blackburn Sanderson, Richard—Colchester
Ferrand, W. B.—Knaresborough Seymour, Sir H. B.—Midhurst
Forester, Hon. G.—Wenlock Smith, Abel—Hertfordshire
Fox, Colonel—Tower Hamlets , i Stanton, W. H.—Stroud
French, F.—Rosscommon Staunton, Sir Geo.—Portsmouth
Fuller, A. E.—East Sussex Stuart, Villiers—Waterford Co.
Gia.•orne,.:Thomas--Nottingham Strutt, Edward—Derby
Goring, C—New Shoreham Thornely,Thos.—Wolverhampton
Greenall, P.—Wigan Trench, Sir F.—Scarborough
Greene, T. G.—Lancashire Wall, C. Baring—Guildford
Gregory, W. A.—Dublin City Ward, H. G.—Sheffield
Grimsditch, T.—Macclesfield Wellesley, Lord C.—South Hants
Hardy,. J.—Bradford Wilshere, William—Yas mouth
Hawes, B.—Lambeth Wodehouse, Edmond—E. Norfolk
Hayter, W. G.—Wells Wrightson, W. B.—Northallerton
Heathcote, Sir W.—Hampshire
Hervey, ord Alfred—Brighton TELLBILL
Hindley, Charles—Ashtou March, Earl of—West Sussex
Hodgson,_F.— Barnstaple Smith, J.:A.—Chichester