The Sun.
London, England, 1850-05-24 00:00:00

bteurtf
r:eteeirred the first overture of France- with coldness;
accepting the good offs-, cat Feeece for the
completion of the business, was the ct truet of the Go-
7ernrneet to France straightforward, putting cordiality
!aside? In the first piece it was not cordial; in the next
t_t_ssas not straightforward, otherwise the caeastrephe
know
not have occurred.—(Hear, 'rear.) I do not
&now what the Noble Lord thinks of this. Every night
the Noble Lord is informed by gentlemen around him
that he is a Minister free from responsibility to Perlia-
nlent• That almost makes a man believe that he is irre-
Eponsible. The Noble Lord has been in office for the
the diplomatic occurrences of that period—her Majesty's
Plenipotentiary kicked out of Spain—(Hear, hear)—
next, the Austriaa Ambassador disappears from London
((Hear)—suddenly the French Ambassador goes.—
'ear.) Not long since the waters of the Hellespont
Were disturbed, and even the Turkish Ambassador gets
into a nervous state.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) In
addition to this, nobody knows where the Russian Am-
_ sisador is at the present moment. We do not know
W ether he is recalled, or whether he remains to adorn
Zsi.t society of which he is so great an ornament and in
'ell he is so justly popular. The Noble Lord, re-
membering all these remarkable diplomatic circum-
ofl;Fes, and that the Government had been in a series
diplomatic scrapes from the moment he took office, no
doubt felt that the country was reconci'ed to these un-
fortunate contingencies by the recollection that our
with werful neighbours in France were on the best termso
: ns, and tbat, wh were our differences with
e other powers of Europe,atever the French people had re-
tried,a
under every form of government, the cordial
thin of England.—(Hear, hear.) But, I think, when
p Noble Lord at the bead of the Government per-
ceives that our late demonstration has succeeded in de
rriVing US of this sole compensation for the mischiefs of
°qr diplomacy, that even at this critical hour of seven
O'clock, and notwithstanding the silence of the other
he will rise and give us some assurance that we
have yet one ally lefc.—(Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL—The observations which the
110 n• Gentleman has just made are the best proof that
Could be given of the wisdom of the advice of the Noble
Lord the Member for Hertford, that this question should
not be debated till Hon. Members had had time to
truse the papers laid on the table. If the Hon. Mem-
r bad had even a glimpse of the contents of these
P%Pers he could hardly have fallen into the serious
reer.rors which have occurred in the course of his speech•
lireeviloroenioguarable Gentlemnn expressed his surmise that
Secretary had not referred to the conven-
eOf April. The object of the Noble Lord was to
th°s, that the statement made by General Lahitte
that the promise made had b !en kept, was unfounded
"-that
ale the Noble Lord has dine. The convention
uded to by the Honourable Member for Bucks is
dtecl the 18th of April. On the 23,1 of April Baron
inr°B made that announcement to the Greek Govern-
ment and to Mr. Wyse, which, in the opinion of Mr.
3'Set suspended and put an end to fn. a time the funs-
W fis of the negotiators. In that interpretation Mr.
tle might be right or wrong. The argument of the
°u'e Lord was to show that he was right in having coarsere-
to coercive measures. If he was justified in that
ksur'e, it is obvious that the convention of April must
e've arrived at Athens toe late; for it was on the 233 of
',lPril the decision was come to, only five days after the
dam of the convention. The Hon. Member for Bucks
sZld not understand why the Noble Lord did not explain
the the Convention of the 18th of April did not conclude
had business. If it had not appeared to us that Mr. Wyse
:" been mistaken with regard to Baron Gros's announce-
b ent to the Greek Government, then stress would have
hhe" laid on the convention of April; but the statement
e made precluded the necessity of laying any stress upon
to Whether Mr. Wyse was right or wrong in that in-
1, Pre atton will be matter for future argument. The Hon.
,s'ettaber seemed to wonder that there should have been
legotittiona at Athens at all. From the first the clues.
aPen was to be settled at Athens, not by the English
Situ! but by the French sending them a negotiator of
ik(l and prudence. The first thing the French lambas-
t or sent to this country did, was to agree that the
egotiation should be conducted at Athens. The pro-
'arta carried into effect on the 18th of April was an
have ter-ught of the French Ambassador, and would
af, been highly useful if Baron Gros had not taken the
s P he had done, and would have concluded, probably in
?tisfactory way, the settlement of the question. With-
en" entering into any general discussion of the question
tc Present, I am anxious to say a few words with respect
Ztee explanation I gave on a former occasion. Having
ent,,engaged in attending a Committee till three o'clock,
se. s° not read the dispatch of General Lahitte. I had
1, '1 a general statement in the newspapers, that the
Drench Minister of Foreign Affairs had written a dis-
rsteh recalling M. Drouyn de l'Huys, but I had not
I:ad the dispatch. What I had just come from reading
ref the dispatch of Lord Normanby, giving an account
eetilase:onversation with General Lahitte. When the
wit,)°. Gentleman opposite asked me the question
an statement ad been made, I could not do
better thanshotl the purport of that (lis-
ta, state . y
;If 14. I stated that, in consequence of the displeasure
; : French Government at the conduct of her Ma-
it Government Government respecting Greece, they had thought
enecessary to recall their ambassador. I went on to
tY that the French Minister for Foreign Affairs had
ted
tir to Lord Normanby that the return of M. Drouyn
.1141 must be considered as entirely natural, since,
kiff`'ng been sent here specially for the affair of Greece,
ese Ethe negotiation having failed, his mission had
Celled its termination. It is right I should state that
siY ti dispatch received to-day from Lord Normanby, he
"es that though he believed General Lahitte to have
el') "Pressed himself, yet, as General Lahitte does not
frontlet making such a statement, he could not hold
eltVreneh Foreign Minister to the words which he had
e Use of. I stated what I gathered from the dispatch
°v. Lord Normanby. I wished to state that the French GO-
- had recalled their ambas-ador Crew displeasure
,1,1" e English Goveroment, yet there bad bleu word;
- General Lahitte which crewel to imply that
t slit
were not so serious as that bare fact of the
ter would lead one to sullesse. With respect to any
per statement of mine, I can only say I answered the
esie„ asked me. When the Hon. Baronet the Member
1,4 Radnor asked me if I had a copy ef the dispatch, I
sjil'frilled I had not; and in answer to another Hon. Gen-
f an, I said it had been read. The statements, there-
fore' that that I then made were the whole truth as far a 3 I
iste--(Cheers.) As there is to be no formal discus-
s') 01 the question at the present moment, I regret the
fhos,.rvations of the Hon. Member for Canterbury, as
ItiiiTe!ceutilniecisency is rather to increase than diminish the
of the question. In any discussion hereafter
fornall take my full share in it, and of the responsibility;
th Noble Lord who conducted the negotiation was
Qllys.organ of the Government—l, as the head of that
(eb'rntnent, consider myself to be mainly responsible.—
,e,ere.) I may state that there have been occasions
lef "'eh mediation and good offices have been of use—
to r 4. Medaition"j—there are cases in which
bett'°ffieee have been the means of maintaining peace
se teen two countries. There is the case of Naples,
sateera a demand of ours was enforced by coercive miss-
base!' suspended at the request of the French Go vern-
whose good offices were accepted and successful.
tvrosnother case, that of Mexico, the position of the
asept Countries was reversed. France and Mexico
ofq-, on the eve of hostilities, and the good
1.6 E! of England were successfully employed. I
not now enter into other matters. I agree with the
sari• Member for Canterbury, that if there is any expla.
eetri°n or proposition we can make to the French Go-
-11,141°134 Consistent with the honour and interest of
nealand, which may remove the present unhappy mis-
letis-ratsliding, and restore to a state of harmony the re-
ecr"ns between the two countries, no effort of the Go-
-I°Btl ent shall be wanting, and no opportunity shall be
ease alght of to make it.—(Cheers.)ucks, Notwl
tithrust we shall
standing the
hm,rtion of the Hon. Member for B
1,42 Credit for having acted with cordiality and since-
shY Bolding the station which I hold, I can truly say
asap no political occurrence ever gave me so much pain
teeter Present unhappy difference with France. On
sisit" than one occasion we have shown a desire to con-
teerit wishes and interests of the Government of
net"Beesl will not say when the interests of England
teeti °PPosed to our doing so, but when the popular
's opi-
Out ,this country was against yielding to France.
stree is to show forbearance, and to see France a
her? Power on the Continent, fully convinced that upon
tepe-38e
ssntiallY depends the peace and prosperity of Eu-
--(Cheers.)
itamne discussion was here terminated, and
the
.SPE ER put the question that he now leave
" On which
. ADULTERATION OF COFFEE.
Ulm ANSTEY then rose to move, pursuant to notice,
or fkor the sake of the public health, the improvement
trader" revenue, and the encouragement of the fair
sheeiti lt was expedient that the laws now in being
ne put in force for the repression of offences
ried gat those laws which regulated the sale of coffee
thatPrevetsted its adulteration. When he had brought
llotsubj
,„ 70 on a former occasion under the notice of the
of th-c- the Right Honourable Baronet the Chancellor
;t ies:s4ehcquer (Sir C. Wood) had said he would take
bringhis serious consideration, with the view of
PhtiEctdig Y 1 some measure to remedy the evils com-
gneettw• , But the Right Hon. Gentleman had subse-
eheep,.., said that he did not intend to propose any
tapp": 111 the existing law. From that it would be
templed ( that the Right Hon. Gentleman did not con-
of t:te interposing any obstacles in the carrying out
ma a isw as it at present stood with respect to that
isto * There were several considerations to be taken
in th'enollnt in that particular, which were indicated
health terms
of his notice. There was first the public
La therelionLam was the loss of a quarter of a
teenf°4 mto the revenue—and finally, the foldedencourage-
th.a to the fraudulent at the expense
lutenc; trader. For all these matters the Right
mere Gentleman Gentleman and his colleagues, the
fond (see fe„-s.,Of the present Government, were responsible.
fore t);,1",„,,0P0n refring to the returns which were be-
!ta. ett— •uollse, that simultaneous with a great increase
la the growth of coffee in the colonies,• and an increase
rael:lfuettit:rpeo:btaadtion into this country, there was a great
And tan in the amount of duty paid upon the article.
been a corresponding decrease in the
tete"- °I the consumption and the amount of the
Of the • derived from it, at a time when, in consequence
t4lrellpellacaug” Made in the tariff, a great increase had
kaki ein the consumption of almost every other
eN„.e. Yet all this time there had been a great in-
eitZoit!t the consumption of an article sold under the
°eller 'Rine The Right Hon. Gentleman the Chan-
atom '4l.,ne Exchequer in that matter, he conceived,
The let'" "te way of that which the law required of him.
trNio.uss:GenstonLearned Member then referred to the va-
-14140 ''s of Parliament which had been passed for the
the se of regulating .
various trades, and preventing
firs, of other articles for those specified'.
","° he quoted—namely, the 43d of George
anyOf ebnihit
ed, under certain penalties, the sale
uhlterated matter. A subsequent Act,