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IRELAND.
REPEAL ASSOCIATION.
Dummy, Nov. 11.—The weekly meeting of the
Association was held this day in the Conciliation
Hall. Captain Broderick in the chair.
The SECRETARY read the following lettter from
Mr. O'Connell, which, although a private one, he
would lay before the meeting. He had great pleasure
in saying that it announced the receipt of 500/. from
the friends in New York.—(Cheers.)
" Darrynane Abbey, Nov. 7.
"My dear Ray,—l send you a letter from New York,
and an address to me from the repeaters of that city,
together with a draft en Baring, Brothers, for
five hundred pounds. I wish I could be per-
sonally present to reply to the address, an' to speak of
the splendid support we receive from the true-hearted
friends of Ireland in New York. Pray get Maurice to
make commemoration of the generous liberality of our
American friends. It will delight them to hear of the
bright prospects that open before us of restoring the
nationality of our beloved fatherland, by a combination
of Irishmen of every sect and persuasion in the cause of
Irish legislative independence.
" Pay all honours to our friends in New York.
" I intend, please God, to be in the Association on
Monday, the 25th, in full health, and renewed anxiety
to forward the cause of Old Ireland.

" We had glorious hunting on Tuesday, sth, and to-
day, nothing could be more splendid ; the weather fine,
the scent lying, and the cry magnificent and continuous
from the start to the death, near two hours.
" In my letter about the Rechabites, the word ' tents'
is printed tenets.' The Rechabites caii their lodges
tents.' Correct the copies you send to Scotland.
Yours most sincerely,
"T. M. Ray, Esq." " DANIEL O'CONNELL.
He (Mr. Ray) had another communication to make
from the Liberator, which he was sure would be re-
ceived with all the consideration which it deserved.
He then read the following letter :
" TO T. M. RAY, ESQ., SECRETARY TO THE LOYAL NA-
TIONAL REPEAL ASSOCIATION OF IRELAND.
" Still shalt thou be my waking theme,
Thy glories still my midnight dream,
And every thought and wish of mine,
UNCONQUERED ERIN, shall be thine.'
" Darrynane Abbey, Nov. 8, 1844.
" My dear Ray,—Under the present circumstances
of the great repeal cause, and especially after the saga-
cious pause that has been made in direct agitation, I
hope it will not be deemed presumptuous in me to
give a direct intimation to the Association of-my in-
tention to attend their meeting on Monday, the 25th
inst., that is, the day fortnight after this letter is read.
"I preside at the election on the 25th, as Alder-
man of my ward; but, as there is no contest in the
ward, the election will be over long before the hour
at which the Association sits, and I will thus be ena-
abled to attend the meeting of the men to whom Ire-
land is chiefly indebted for the past progress of the
great cause, and to whom history will attribute the
principal means of the restoration of the Irish Par-
liament. _ _ _

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"My intention of attending the meeting of the
25th would not be sufficient to justify the parade of
this announcement, but that its real object is to in-
form the members of the Association of my design on
that day to bring for ward two topics of great and vital
importance.
" The first involves the subject of an application to
Parliament fcr an impeachment of the persons principally
concerned in the late Monster Prosecutions, and, in par-
ticular, to consider deliberately the propriety of address-
ing the people of Great Britain, in order to procure their
aid in enforcing on Parliament the necessity of such im-
peachment. If such an address shall be agreed upon, it
will remain to be determined whether it shall take place
by personal attendance in England of a delegation of the
Association, or through the medium of the press.
" The second great object for the consideration of the
Association on the 25th, is one which has engrossed
much of my thoughts, and from which my mind is full
of anticipations of great utility, fit can legally be
arranged—l mean the appointment of a Preservative
Society of 300.
"It is quite true that the legal difficulties are very
great ; the Irish people are oppressed by the tyrannous
weight of the Convention Act—an enactment from the
infliction of which the people of England are perfectly
free. It may be worth while, by way of parenthesis, to
remark, that the present connexion with England is
called a union, though the people of England are free
from the burden which thus most cruelly embarrasses
the people of Ireland in their political exertions—
" A union, forsooth ! !
"I shall not dictate either of these measures to the
Repeal Association ; it is as little within my power as it
is within my inclination to do so. They are subjects
deserving the most grave consideration, and upon which
the most honest of mankind may reasonably and fairly
differ.

"I invite the most earnest attention of the members
of the Repeal Association to these topics ; that which
presses most is the impeachment, because, if that be
adopted, our arrangements must be complete before the
sitting of Parliament, which will, most probably, take
place in the first week of February next. Every fact
connected with the management of the jury list must be
investigated-and ascertained ; and I will, in „particular,
call the attention oft* ASsociation to the canduct of the
Recorder. At first I thought that he was not to blame,
but farther reflection upon his most unnecessary journey
to England at a most critical period, convinced me that
the public are entitled to a strict and critical inquiry
into his conduct upon that occasion. The mode of his
deportment in Parliament on the subject, dissatisfies my
mind very considerably ; he cannot be allowed, as I
think, to cover himself by his judicial situation ; he was
ministerial as well as judicial, and, in both capacities,
responsible to Parliament.
" A full investigation is required, because if he had
taken proper care that the jury list was duly made out,
the jury trial upon that list would never be denounced
by the highest legal tribunal in the land as a delusion,
a snare, and a mockery.'
" lie may be able to vindicate his conduct, but in-
quiry is absolutely necessary to satisfy the public mind ;
and it is strongly my purpose, if approved by the Asso-
elation, to have the entire case, including the Recorder's
conduct, brought distinctly before Parliament.
" There has been a longer pause in the repeal agita-
tion than I had anticipated, but I do not by any means
regret it. There was in that pause a deference to the
opinions of those Irishmen who differ from us, which
was calculated, I think, to convince them how respect-
fully their opinions have been treated, and will be treated,
whenever they join the ranks of the Repeal Association.
It was an experiment we made, and I claim the merit of
being one of the principal promoters of that experiment.
If it had been immediately successful, its importance is
almost incalculable ; it would have produced two things;
first, the enunciation of a specific plan which Protestant
gentlemen of fortune, rank, talent, and patriotism,
deemed most useful to remedy the admitted grievances,
the poverty and destitution of Ireland, and to give to
her the power of domestic legislation in all affairs relat-
ing to her own concerns. It would, secondly, have given
the opportunity to us, thorough and out-and-out re-
pealers, to show courtesy and conciliation where we
differ with the federalists, and also our readiness to
concede everything for that conciliation, consistent with
our great and immutable principle of Irish nationality.
• " This experiment has not been as yet successful ; the
federalists have not come forward with any specific plan,
they have made no public movement, they have effected
no organisation among themselves ; our notions as to
their plans are purely conjectural.
" It would, under such circumstances, perhaps, have'
been better if a perfect silence had been adopted by those
who formed particular ideas of what federalism meant,
and thus opposed the creature of their own imagination.
" But I am far from thinking that those who adopted
the course different from that which I should have ad-
vised, were therefore in the wrong ; this much, however,
is certain, that the discussion, if it were prematurely en-
tered into, was at all events conducted with good temper
and civility ; no improper motives were imputed by the
dissentient repealers to the federalists.
" The experiment, it is true, has not as yet been suc-
cessful, yet I think it has afforded grounds of confident
hope, and pleasing anticipation of future and complete
success.
" These things have been ascertained—
" First —That there are a number of Protestants, of
various classes—but in particular of rank and station—
who are as dissatisfied with the working of the Union
statute as I am, and who are as convinced as I am of the
iniquitous means by which the union was effected ; who,
the
and
n dplrreesleanntd political
is
essentially
also, are as thoroughly persuaded as I am that the mi-
sery and destitution of the Irish people must continue,
con-
nexionan
dau
grnent
between yearly,Gretl unless
Britain
altered.
" It is well to know this fact—the declaration of Mr.
Grey Porter is decisive upon it, and I am bound to say
that I have abundant reasons to be convinced that the
abhorrence of the present union is more extensive among
the wealthier classes of Ireland, especially the landed
proprietors, than Mr. Grey Porter was aware of.
" The second important fact ascertained is, that if, or
whenever the federalists shall announce their plan, it
will be received with deference and respect, it will be
discussed with coolness and temper ; and if we are com-
pelled by our great principle of nationality to reject it
in part, or in the entire, it will be rejected in a manner
of the most conciliating courtesy.
" Thirdly. It is also ascertained that if the repealers
should find the plan of federalism is •
one by which Ire-
laud could get all that simple repeal could give her, and
something mere, that in such case the federalists will be
permitted, and even solicited, to take their natural sta-
tion, according to their talent, wealth, and rank, at the
head of the movement.
" Let me, then, tell my fellow-countrymen that our
experiment has not totally failed ; it must necessarily
leave behind it tan i •
mpression of the entire absence of

any angry, irritating, or vexatious spirit among the re-
pealers. Yes, and an impression, also indelible, of our
anxiety for conciliation and harmony amongst Irishmen
of every class, creed, persuasion, and political principle.
" I think it right to express my very strong opinion
that we should have had a very powerful federal demon-
stration, if the English Whig party had not succeeded
in stifling it for the present. There is something exceed-
ingly ludicrous in the fact, that whilst the English Tory
press were abusing the Whigs, and abusing me for having,
as they untruly alleged, entered into a compact to sub-
stitute federalism for repeal, and to assist in bringing the
Whigs again into office, the Whigs were, at that very
time, counteracting every effort of mine to procure a de-
claration from the federalists, and they actually succeeded
in preventing a federal declaration—which, I believe,
would have long since appeared but for their antagonist
exertions.
" There is another thing certain, that whether or not
we shall have any other federalist make an appeal to the
Irish public, Mr. Grey Porter has, in his pamphlet,
pledged himself to produce his plan of federalism before
the end of the present year, and, judging from his cha-
racter, it is to the last degree probable that he will re-
deem that pledge. Let us, however, in the meantime,
exert all our energies to forward the repeal cause, as if
this interlude had not occurred.
"It is quite true that, according to the constitution:of the
Repeal Association, federalism is an open question, and
we have admitted as avowed federalists many individuals
of the first respectability—for one instance, the Right
Rev. Dr. Kennedy, the Catholic Bishop of Killaloe—yet,
I am very decidly of opinion—and as respectfully sub-
mit that opinion to the Association—that it is much bet-
ter 1.0 cur exe, i,:utts es.l, and confine.
our efforts to the restoration of the Irish
without seeking anything further—marking, however,
distinctly, the limit between simple repeal and federalism.
" Simple repeal, I take it, consists in this—
" First. On the preservation of the connexion between
Great Britain and Ireland, through the means of a sole
executive and the golden link of the Crown.
" Secondly. In the repeal of the Union Statute, 50th
George 111., chap. 47.
" Thirdly. In the restoration of the Irish House of
Lords in all its integrity.
" Fourthly. In th re-construction (upon Reform prin-
ciples) of the Irish House of Commons, consisting of
300 members, distributed upon the basis of population,
that being the basis adopted in the English Reform Bill.
" Fifthly. That the restored Irish Parliament should
have all the powers which were vested in the Irish Par-
liament before the union ; that is to say, complete legis-
lative and judicial authority in Ireland.
" I think it right to state my thorough conviction, as
well as my perfect determination, that we should never
consent to receive less for Ireland than what is contained
in these five propositions ; this would be giving Ireland
to the Irish ; but it would give them no further share in
the advantages of British connexion. It will, however,
amply content me, because the Irish Parliament would
have in itself inherent means of opposing the abuse of
Great Britain of the powers which are vested in the Bri-
tish Crown, and in which the late Irish Parliament here-
tofore had no share.
" I repeat, thus much I require for Ireland—complete
legislative and judicial authority vested in the Crown,
and the restored Irish Houses of Lords and Commons.
t never entered into my mind to accept of less, and it

never can.
"It may be right here to remind the Irish people of a fact,
that there were seventy nomination boroughs in Ireland
before the union. All these would have been swept away
at the time of the Reform Bill in England, if Ireland
then had her own Parliament. They will, of course, be
considered as annihilated, and so much of the Union
Statute as sweeps them away, would be re-enacted by the
Act repealing the Union Statute itself.
" There is one inquiry which the people of Ireland
have a right to make, and which I am ready to answer.
" What occasion has there been to raise the question
of federalism, I, myself, being content with the restora-
tion of the Irish Parliament in a reformed shape ?
" My answer is—that it is a duty which I owe to the
people of Ireland, to obtain for the struggle for the re.
storation of their Parliament all the strength, power, and
energy that I possibly can accumulate in that cause ; it
is my sacred duty to show to the British empire, and to
the world, upon what slender foundation of support the
Union Statute is based ; to demonstrate to the British
Ministry and British Parliament, the universality of the
disgust which pervades Irishmen of every class, at being
deprived of any share in the government of their own
country. I demonstrated by means of the monster meetings
of last year how intense was, and is, the anger of the Irish
people at the loss of their national independence, and how
peacefully, but fixedly, determined they were, and are,
never to relax their exertions until the Parliament shall be
in College-green again—and now it is equally incumbent
on me to procure, if possible, a similar combination
among the wealthier classes, and particularly among the
Protestant nobility and gentry, for the restoration of our
rational independence.
" There is no taunt—there is no reproach—there is no
calumny that I am not cheerfully ready to endure, if I
am able to procure the support of such of the Protestant
nobility and gentry as have not yet joined us in seeking
the repeal of the Union statute.
" There is nothing short of principle which I would not
sacrifice to obtain the support of the Protestant gentry :
I desire to place them at the head of the movement, that
all fear of religious ascendancy may be done away with
for ever, and the repeal of the union rendered secure.
" But the. repeal of
the unictn, n order to be useful to
Ireland, should have the assent of nearly all, per popula-
tion, clergy, nobility, gentry,' and laity of every class,
creed, and persuasion. lam recruiting sergeant for the
i
Irish people, and-whilst I beat up for recruits by every
argument convincing and conciliatory, and in the sacri-
fice of everything but principle, the success of my plans
may be postponed ; but I think I am quite safe in de-
claring that such success is not remote or uncertain.
" The chief argument against repeal, used especially
by the class I allude to, is that the restoration of the
Irish Parliament would necessarily tend to a separation
between the two countries—a powerful argument, if true.
They (the non-repealers) assert that the repeal of the
union would leave many questions unsettled between
Ireland and Englard—that Ireland would have no con-
trol over treaties with foreign Powers—over the appoint-
ment of the Executive—that is, of the British Ministry
—or over the management of the colonies, or other im-
perial concerns ; and thus, that numerous international
and hostile questions would arise, tending to create a
civil war between the two countries, and leaving Ireland
to no other choice than submission to British conquest ;
or, by a successful revolt, throwing off British connexion,
and the allegiance to the British Crown.
" Unhappily, there is a great difficulty in persuading
the persons who take up these ideas of their futility ; it
is infinitely better to discuss with them in perfect temper
and kindliness, the remedies they themselves propose—
that; remedy consists in a federal congress upon some
plan as yet undefined, to give Ireland a potential voice
in the regulation of foreign treaties—in the checks on
Ministerial power—in the management of colonial affairs,
and in all other imperial concerns.
" It is quite true, that in striking out the plans for
such congressional powers, many difficulties will arise,
and many conflicting interests will have to be consulted.
This may tend to render the arrangement more difficult
to be effected ; but if federalism shall bring to our aid
a great force of the Protestant nobility and gentry, more
than equivalent to those difficulties, the gain will be en-
tirely on the side of Ireland.
" I confess I should be glad to see a plan that would
give Ireland an effectual share in the arrangement of
foreign treaties. In that case the linen yarns of Belfast
would be in no danger of being sacrificed to the inte-
rests of the makers of cutlery in Sheffield and Bir-
mingham.
" Again, look to the colonies, read the names of the
official persons in those colonies, you will find very many
English, and, above all, plenty of Scotch, but scarcely
one Irish ; and if there be an Irishman among them, it
is in all probability some renegade, who has sold his
country for a colonial bribe.
" Then, as to the state of religion in the colonies, the
religion of the people of England is protected in the co-
lonies, so is the religion of the people of Scotland ; but
the religion of the people of Ireland is scantily tolerated;
for example, in Newfoundland, the Protestantßishop has
a salary from Government of 5001. a year, while my rev.
will
which
hesit
friend, the Right Rev. Dr. Fleming, has a salary of only
501. a year, though his duties are in the inverse ratio
of the salaries.
" I have thus shown that I seek for Ireland the full
er take less
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the union, that is, final legislative and judicial authority
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in Ireland.
.. But, if I can get more for Ireland, if I can, in addi-
tion to her legislative independence, procure for her, by
means of a federal arrangement, a direct interference as
to foreign treaties, and a direct and unequivocal powtr
in colonial affairs, I will not refuse the advantages and
authority which may be tendered to Ireland, as addi-
tional links in the connexion with Great Britain.
" In fine, fellow-countrymen, the pause of experiment
is over ; let us rouse again for the peaceful contest—a
contest not to be suspended until the Parliament is again
in College-green with all its ancient authority and ju-
risdiction.
" HURRAII, THEN, FOR THE REPEAL ! ! !
" I have the honour to be, your faithful servant.,
" DANIEL O'CONNELL."
The SECRETARY again said he had another im-
portant communication to lay before the meeting,
It Was an address from the Complete Suffrage So-
ciety to the Repeal Association, and was signed by
that excellent individual Joseph Sturge :
" TO M. RAY, SECRETARY TO THE NATIONAL REPEAL
AS3OCIATION, DUBLIN.
" Esteemed Friend,—In forwarding the inclosed ad-
dress, it is scarcely necessary for me to say that the opi-
nion I long ago publicly expressed in favour of federal-
ism remains unchanged.
" I earnestly hope that the question will • have
the deli-
berate and candid consideration of every true friend of

" Fellow-countrymen,—We have watched with deep
interest the progress of your efforts to obtain, by peace-
ful and constitutional means, the right of self-govern-
ment for your long injured and oppressed country ; and
we have seen with admiration that even while you were
nationally insulted by the unjust and, as it has proved,
illegal imprisonment of your great leader, you were not
for one moment betrayed into any act of violence ur
outrage. We rejoice in the great moral triumph you
have thus far achieved. We cannot but view it as indi-
cating that the blessing of Divine Providence will con-
tinue to rest on the course you are pursuing, and we cor-
dially respond to the sentiments of Daniel O'Connell,
that every change of political institutions should be
effected by exclusively moral and peaceable means,' and
that no amelioration, however in its nature valuable, in
the laws or government, should be purchased by any
one crime or sin of ever so small a degree, and, above
all, is not worth the purchase by the loss of one single
life.'
" As we are associated for the simple object of pro-
moting, by peaceable and Christian means, an equality
of political rights to our fellow-countrymen, it would be
cut of ottr province. in our cOltective capacity, to take
any part in the movement now going forward for fede-
ralism or repeal; but we consider that the present is an
appropriate time for expressing our conviction that the
announcement made in Daniel O'Connell's letter of the
2d ult. forms a ground on which millions of youreountry -
men on this side the Channel can cordially unite; but
we would, at the same time, have it distinctly under-
stood, that, in our judgment, no system of federalism can
be established on a firm and stable basis which is not
built on that solid principle of representative government,
which recognises the right of every man, irrespective of
any pecuniary advantages h-0- may possess, to an equal
share with every other man in the representation. Hap-
pily, on this point we are not only united in principle
with a great majority of our Irish brethren, but in the
details by which the principle should be carried out; for,
in the address of the Repeal Association to this union,
dated August 15, 1842:
"' 1. We agree with you that the right of suffrage
should be complete; that is to say, that every male adult,
unaftlcted by insanity, and unstained by the turpitude of
convicted crime, should have the power to vote for a re-
presentative in Parliament. This is what is called by
some " Universal Suffrage," yet this is an inaccurate de-
nomination; but, by whatever name it may be called, we
are for the thing itself—the power to every male adult,
unconvicted of crime or insanity, to vote for a represen-
tative in Parliament. We insist that this is a right, a
constitutional right; and we further insist with you that
in point of constitutional doctrine. the right of every
man to vote for his representative, is, in point of justice
and equity, perfectly equal to any privilege of the peer-
age, and the title of the monarch to the throne. The de-
privation of the masses of the people of this right has
degraded Englishmen, by dividing them into two classes
—a master class, who are allowed the exercise of the
right of voting; and a slave class, who are robbed of
their right of voting. Shame upon any Englishman
who will tamely submit to this robbery and insult.
" 2. We entirely agree with you upon the absolute
necessity of vote by ballot. Accompanied by complete
suffrage, it will render bribery totally unavailing, and
therefore impracticable. The ballot will render intimi-
dation utterly impossible. By means of the ballot the
vote will belong unconditionally to the voter himself, to
be disposed of in the manner he shall conscientiously
prefer. Besides, the method of voting by ballot will ne-
cessarily prevent rioting and violence at the poll—it will
secure the peaceable exercise of the right of voting.
" '3. We entirely agree with you upon the principle
of equalising the electoral districts. Nothing can be
more absurd than that Harwich, with less than 200
voters, should have as many representatives in Parlia-
ment as the West Riding of Yorkshire, with 36,000
voters. It is really degrading to human nature to acqui-
esce in a system which gives to 200 persons the same
influence in granting supplies of the public money which
is divided amongst 36,000 other persons. We therefore
most heartily concur with you upon that principle which
would equalise the electoral districts.
" 4. We entirely concur with you that the property
qualification of Members of the House of Commons
should be abolished. It did nut exist in Ireland before
the union. It does not exist in Scotland at the present
day. It does not exist for the members of universities
or the eldest rons of Peers. It is unequal as-well as un-
just, and should be immediately abolished.
" 5. We acquiesce in your principle, that the Mem-
bers of Parliament should be paid their reasonable ex-
penses. It is the principle acted upon by several free
nations, and we see no objection to its being carried into
effect in these countries.
" ' 6. We acquiesce in your principle of annual Parlia-
ments. If we had not been affected by your preference
to annual over triennial Parliaments, we should, upon the
whole, prefer the latter ; but political combinations can
never take .place, efficiently without a. readiness on all
pat ts In sacrifice some matter of detail ; we, therefore,
in order to co-operate fully- with -you, sacrifice our pre-
ference to triennial Parliaments, and declare that we will
go with you for the Along,- period, namely, annual.
" To these sentiments we confidently hope the Repeal
Association will steadfastly adhere. Though at the
present moment the power to govern is in the hands of
the few, there are no doubtful indications that correct
views of the rights of the many are now spreading in
circles where, at one time, very different opinions were
entertained. Party distinctions are breaking up, prin-
ciple is more and more acknowledged as the true source
of real national reform—the only ground on which the
confidence and earnest co-operation of the non-elector
can be maintained, and we are persuaded that there are
peaceable and constitutional means—such, for example,
as moving amendments on votes of supply—by which a
comparatively few Members of the House of Commons
could secure all your rights, if backed by the voice of
the people of the United Kingdom. To secure their
cordial union and support they must, in the first place,
be satisfied as to the practicability of the means pro-
posed, and the honest and earnest determination of those
in whom they confide to carry them into effect, so as to
realise, in imperial as well as domestic legislation, full,
fair, and free representation.
" On behalf of the Council,
"JOSEPH STURGE, Chairman.
" 37, Waterloo-street, Birmingham, 11th month,
4th day, 1844."
Mr. M. O'CoNNELL rose, and said he had to hand
in 500/. received from New York.—(Loud cheers.)
The lion. Gentleman then read the following letter
to Mr. O'Connell, which accompanied the remit-
tance

" New York, Oct. 15, 1844,

" Dear Sir,—Again has it become a pleasing part 01
my official duty to make a remittance to the Loya
National Repeal Association. I have the gratification
of enclosing herewith a bill ofexchange forsool. sterling.
"Of this amount, there were received from the re-
peelers of Fort Covington, Thomas Kearney, Secretary,
70 dolls. 7c., or 14L 7s. ; the repealers of Sag Harbour,
Long Island, New York, 30 dolls. 50c., or 6L ss. ; the
repealers of Astoria (second donation), ditto, ditto,
37 dolls. 25c., or 7L 12s. ; the repealers of Cold-spring,
New York, James M'Mullen, President, Arthur O'Hara,
Secretary, and Bernard Duffy, Treasurer (fourth dona-
tion), 100 dolls., or 201. 10s.
" The intention of the New York repealers has, thanks
to Divine Providence, been rendered unnecessary ; they
had pledged themselves to liquidate the fine of 2,000 L,
which, in addition to imprisonment, was so iniquitously
imposed on the Liberator of his native land, leaving to
other Associations in the United States the honour of
paying the fines of other captives. The decision of the
House of Lords has reversed the judgment which con-
signed you to a prison, but it has not reversed the deter-
mination of the New York repealers to contribute the
2,000!., of which sum the present remittance is the first
instalment, and which they desire to be applied to the
great national objects you have in view.
"The friends of repeal—of civil and religious liberty
—throughout the world rejoice at your triumph and at
the discomfiture of your enemies. You have suffered
persecution for justice sake, and now enjoy the reward
of beholding the entire failure of every scheme to crush
the repeal movement, which either Tory ingenuity could
suggest, or its malevolence desire. The monster indict-
ment has turned out to be a monstrous humbug!—' a
mockery, a delusion, and a snare and you are again in
the possession of that personal freedom of which you
were so unjustly deprived.
" A congratulatory address from the New York Re-
peal Association on that auspicious event accompanies
this communication, and I can with confidence say that
it is an expression of the feelings which throb in mill►ons
of hearts throughout the United States, rejoicing at the
intelligence of your triumph and deliverance from capti-
vity. By a resolution passed at the last meeting cf our
Association, at which Charles O'Connor, Esq., presided,
the Executive Committee were directed to make arrange-
ments fur celebrating the triumph of the repeal martyrs,
by a grand national festivity, which will speedily be
carried into effect.
" Hoping that you may soon realise the consumma-
tion of the glorious object to which your long and event-
ful life has been devoted—the elevation of Ireland to her
proper rank among the nations of the earth, with her own
domestic Parliament legislating for her wishes and her
wants—an enterprise, to all appearance, some few years
since, the most hopeless ever undertaken, but now certain
to be attended with a success the greatest ever obtained
by man, I have the honour to be, dear Sir, very faith-
fully and truly, your obedient servant,
" BARTHOLOMEW O'CONNOR, Secretary,
" United Irish Repeal Association, New York.
" Daniel O'Connell, Esq., M.P."

Mr. M. O'CONNELL rose to controvert some re-
marks having a tendency to palliate the murders which
had been perpetrated in the south of Ireland, and
dwelt on the folly and infatuation of committing such
enormities, which he asserted called aloud to Heaven
for vengeance. It was received as a political axiom
amongst Irishmen, that " the man who committed a
crime gave strength to the enemy," and he could
therefore have no hesitation in branding as a traitor
the wretches who would be guilty of such enormities
as he had alluded to.—(Hear.)
Mr. DoUENNY (barrister) having handed in a sum
of money from the county of Tipperary, urged the
union of all parties for the benefit of their common
country, and denied that the Catholics ever aimed at
obtaining an ascendancy.
After some routine business had been disposed of,
Mr. M. O'CONNELL announced the rent for the week
to be 8381. 16s. 3d.

The meeting then adjourned.
REVISION OF THE JURY LISTS—THE

STATE TRIALS.

Shortly aftpr nine deloek this morning, the Right
llonourable the Recorder opened his Court, for the
second annual revision of the jury lists of this city.
Mr. Clements appeared as counsel, and Mr. Mahony
as solicitor for a portion of the public.
Mr. Mahony applied to the Recorder on a matter
which was deeply interesting to the public, and partly
personal as related to his Lordship, as well as to him
(Mr. Mahony). It arose out of a circumstance at-
tending the revision of the jury list last year ; and he
now asked his Lordship to institute a full and search-
ing inquiry into the facts attending the abstrac-
tion of a number of names from that list, from which
the special jury in the case of the Queen v. O'Connell
and others was struck.

The RECORDER said he had no jurisdiction to in-
quire into such matter. This was not the place for
it. He regretted very much that anything irregular
had been done ; but it was not in his power to open
any further investigation in relation to that circum-
stance.

Mr. Mahony said that he courted a full investiga-
tion, as slanderous imputations had been made against
him and others; and he hoped that, for his Lordship's
own sake, and for the satisfaction of the public, whose
interests were involved in the protection of the trial
by jury from all taint or impeachment, that he would
open the inquiry suggested.
The RECORDER had to repeat that he had no power
to do anything now, but proceed with the business
for which they had assembled there. He had investi-
gated all the circumstances attending the missing
names after the last revision, and while he deeply
regretted what had occurred, yet, as he stated else-
where, there was no moral blame to be attributed to
any one, while there certainly was gross neglect.
Mr. Mahony had then to call the attention of his
Lordship to a matter personal to himself, and which
he doubted not his Lordship would explain. He
found that in the jurors' bopk, printed by order of the
House of Commons, at page 79, and in reference to
several names in St. Audeon's parish, a marginal note
was appended by his Lordship to this effect :
"Amended by Recorder, Ist January, 1844." Now,
he (Mr. Mahony) begged to know by what authority
it was that his Lordship undertook to amend, or in
any way alter, the lists, which were legally made up
and finished in open court, arid delivered over by him
to the sheriff, on the 28th of December?
The RECORDER replied that after the list was sent
to the High Sheriff, it was discovered that four names
had been wrongly placed ; whereupon he (the Re-
corder) wrote to the Clerk of the Peace, desiring him
to amend the list, by altering those names, which was
done accordingly. His note, on that occasion, he
understood, was ready to be produced.
Mr. Dickenson, ',the Clerk of the Peace, then pro-
duced the Recorder's letter, and observed that it had
been long since published in the newspapers, and was
therefore known to the public.
The RECORDER said that what he did he conceived
was in accordance with his duty, and he thought if a
similar circumstance again occurred, he should feel
bound to act in a similar manner • but this, he con-
ceived, had nothing whatever to do with the question
of the dropped names ; that circumstance never should
have taken place. He regretted it very much, but he
had no doubt it arose from inattention or negligence.
He could not account for it, nor did he think any
one else could. He had, therefore, no hesitation in
gsryeitntegdt.hat it was an accident which was to be re-
Mr. Mahony said he was glad to hear his Lord-
ship's explanation, and he considered he had full
authority to have corrected all the errors and omis-
sions in the lists he made up twelve months ago,
though the Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland de-
cided the reverse, in presence of his Lordship, and
he hoped that there would be no future cause for
designating trial by jury in Ireland as a " delusion,
a mockery, and a snare."
The revision then proceeded.
MEETING- OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC

MR. SA MUDA, THE ENGINEER, AND SIX MEN
KILLED, AND FIVE OTHERS DANGEROUSLY
INJURED.
An accident, in its effects fatal to seven persons,
and most serious to five others, and in its details
shocking in the extreme, occurred off Blackwell last
evening, in consequence of a steam explosion on board
a new iron steam-boat, named the Gipsy Queen, built
by the firm of Samuda and Co. (the senior of which
is the chief victim), for the 'Waterford Navigation
Company.
From the naturally confused state of the surviving
parties, arising from the sudden transition of their
companions and friends, a moment previously in the
full vigourof life, to the awful and irrecoverable state
in which many of them now are, the particulars of
the occurrence could be ascertained only with great
difficulty. It appears, however, that the steam-vessel,
which previously had been only partially tried in Bow
Creek, near Blackwell, came out from the creek yes-
terday afternoon, about half-past three o'clock, in
command of Capt. Price, and with Mr. Jacob Sa-
muda, the constructor of both the boat and engines, a
friend or two, and a number of workmen belonging
to the factory of Messrs. Samuda, on board, made her
first trial trip down the river, as far as Woolwich. She
returned at five o'clock, and was moored to the buoy
off Black wall, the result of this trial having been sa-
tisfactory to the parties on board.
The Gipsy Queen is about 600 tons burden, and
has paddle-wheel engines equal to 300 horse-power.
Her engines are of a peculiar character, the invention
of Messrs. Samuda. They are what may be termed
" bell-cranked" engines, and, as we are informed, in •
stead of the ordinary beam, the beam of the Gipsy
Queen is divided in the centre, each half being
socketted in the other, with connecting rods at each
end working at an angle, instead of perpendicularly ;
there being two bearings in the centre, instead of one.
Another peculiarity in these engines is that they are
placed fore and aft—one before the other, and not side
by side, as is usually done. The boilers, vt hich are
tubular, were constructed to bear 401bs. pressure on
the square inch, but during the trial they had not
ben weeked to more than half thllt press.e..re, As
soon, however, as the vessel had arrived at Blackwell,
it was determined to try the boilers at a pressure of
251b5., and it is said the safety valve was set accord-
ingly, not the least danger being apprehended. Mr.
Samuda, with the engineer, the foreman of his fac-
tory, and a number of fitters and others, were present
in the engine-room to see the operation, when, abcut
ten minutes after five o'clock, the unfortunate catas-
trophe took place.
A slight explosion was heard by the persons as-
sembled on the Black wall Pier, and on all eyes being
turned in the direction of the Gipsy Queen, the his-
sing of steam was heard, and the vapour was seen
issuing from all parts of the engine-room. The
cause was speedily imagined, and Captain Routh, the
Director of the Black wall Railway, and several
others, raised a loud shout for boats to put off to the
assistance of those on board. But it was some time
before any could be procured, and meanwhile the
persons on the pier became most anxious. As soon,
however, as boats could be obtained they put off to
the steamer, and the result of the explosion was
quickly known by the return to the pier of two boats,
with five men in them dreadfully scalded and dis-
figured, and from them the intelligence was gathered
that they had escaped up the ladder at the time of
the explosion, and had left several of their com- •
panions in the engine-room, amongst them Mr. Sa-
muda, sen. This information much increased the
excitement ashore. Women rushed down to the pier
to ascertain the fate of their husbands and friends,
and Mr. Joseph Samuda, who had become ac-
quainted with the then imperfect rumour, was
also on the barges in a state of mind bordering on
distraction. What with the rain, which fell violently at
the time and the darkness of the night, the occupants
of the Black wall Pier presented a very woeful ap-
pearance ; and so eager were they to learn the worst,
that it was with great difficulty some other serious
accidents were prevented by the parties who had
charge of the barges, as the people were pressing to
the very edges.
On board the Gipsy Queen it was impossible, from
the escape of the steam, to descend to the engine-
room, and axes were procured as soon as possible, and
the decks were cut up in order to allow the steam to
disperse more rapidly, and thus half an hour elapsed
before the fate of those in the engine-room was ascer-
tained. When that place was sufficiently free from
steam for the persons on deck to descend into it, it
disclosed the bodies of seven men in the most ghastly
condition. They were quite dead, and lay in various
positions. The unfortunate sufferers were :
Mr. Jacob Samuda, Mr. Dodds, engineer of the
vessel ; Mr. Scholefield, an engineer ; James Slanders,
fitter ; Thomas Nugent, apprentice ; John Newman,
stoker, awl another man whose name we could not
ascertain.
On examination, it would appear that the accident
was caused by the bursting of the steam from the
main pipe at a joint. The connexion of the main
steam-pipe with the foremost engine is effected by a
" stuffing-box," which renders the joint, where there
is any vibration, more secure. The pipe at this stuff-
ing-box, which in its right place led downward to
the floor of the engine-room, is now turned up to-
wards the deck. The steam in its course, it is evi-
dent, must have found vent here, and, without any
warning, must in its bursting out have dealt the dis-
astrous consequences which the flour of the engine-
room presented.
Mr. Satauda, with those who have perished, must
have been standing near this stuffing-box at the time.
Several had left the engine-room just before for the
deck, and the five who are so seriously injured were
going up the ladder. The whole force of the ex-
plosion was therefore encountered by the seven de-
ceased. The bodies were literally boiled, their hair
was stiffened and standing straight from their fore-
heads, the features all puffed and some of them dis-
coloured, and the teeth of many displaced. Mr. Sa-
muda was more disfigured than the others, and seemed
to have offered the greatest resistance to the devas-
tating power. The stoker had a severe contusion
over his right eye, and his shoes were found scorched
on his feet.
The bodies were taken ashore, and to the ware-
house of the Black wall Railway Company, and were
subsequently removed to the bonehouse at Poplar, to
await a Coroner's inquest, which it is expected will
be held this day.
The injured persons were :—William Ryley, fore-
man of Messrs. Samuda ' • Charles Mills, boiler-maker
of their establishment; James Hill, ditto; William
Donovan, stoker; and a stoker whose name did not
transpire.
Ryley was much scalded and scorched about the
head. The stoker had his hand very much shattered.
It is feared that one or two of them are in a very
dangerous state.
They were taken to the Blaekwall Railway, where
every attention was paid them,by Captain Routh, and
as soon as possible were removed to the London Hos-
pital in an omnibus.
Many are the interventions of Providence recorded
in favour of persons on board at the time of this sad
occurrence. Mr. Samuda had, a minute before, sent
a man, an engineer named Lowe, on deck (who thus
escaped), to look at the steam pipe, and he had
scarcely moved two steps from the compawn-way
before the explosion took pace. The concussion,
though not loud in report, was so severe as by the
vibration to lift the persons who were on deck off the
boards.
Mr. Samuda, we understand, is unmarried; but
several of the deceased and of the sufferers have wives
and families.
The estimated pressure to which it was intended to
raise the steam was 251bs. to the square inch ; but
when a boat is lying still, as was the case with the
Gipsy Queen, the steam rises so rapidly that a minute
or two makes a very great difference in the amount
of pressure, none being consumed at the time by the
engines. The Coroner's inquest will, however, sup-
ply all the particulars necessary to form a correct
udgment on the matter.