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TILE SAMARITAN INSTITUTIOX.

rejected their testimony, because he considered there
Was something in their manner that indicated their cha-
racter to be unfavourable, and therfere not favourable
witnesses in such a cause ; and it was not reasonable to
imagine Mr. Barber would have detained them after
they had detained them after they hal been rejected by
Mr. Horseley, his solicitor. He would prove all he had
stated and he was sorry that the public time should have
been taken up so long with such a trumpery prosecution.
The case was already gone according to law, but he would
meet it upon the facts, and prove that he was merely the
agent of the committee, and not responsible for these
matters. He would mention that before Ponsford's flour
came in, Mr. Barber had purchased 40 quarterns of
flour from his own resources, to make puddings, and he
was heartily ashamed that any one could be found to
utter such defamatory libels as those that had been
emanated by Mr. Potter. With regard to the biscuits
he would prove that Mrs. Barber sent the biscuits
in small quantities from time to time to . the poor.
He would also prove that one barrel of beer was tapped
on Christmas eve, and exhausted, and the other on
Christmas morning, and nearly all consumed during the
day. As to the sale of the suet and flour, he would prove
that it was not until ten or twelve days after Christmas
day, when it was no longer available, that the suet being
rank and stinking was sent out to-be sold as such, and
the proceeds, about 63., Mrs. Barber gave among
the servants of the institution as Christmas gratuities.
He would prove that the beer in question was sent away
when brought to the table at the dinner party, as none
of the family drank porter, and the servant went out for
pale ale, end 'he would be called to prove that fact.
That was the case for the defence ; and if he proved
all he thought he thought he should be able, he would
ask the magistrate if this was not a complete answer to
all these charges ; and when Mr. Barber's evidence, as
it would, went forth upon the wings of the press to the
public, he would come clear out of this matter, and then
it would be a question if Mr. Potter's share in these
proceedings did not call for condemnation rather than
praise. He would call one witness now, and then con-
sent to an adjournment.
Mr. Sleigh said he was prepared. to go on with the
case until the conclusion, or adjourn at once.
The evidenee in support of this statement was then
postponed until Tuesday forenoon, Mr. Barber entering
into the same securities as before.

in money. After Anderson bad got the money he came
out of the house, and we all three, with the fourth
man, met in the same street, and we walked to the
Eastern Counties Railway, where Anderson was to meet
another young man to send off with the other
check. I and Anderson went into an eating-
house opposite the station, Saward and the
other man waiting close by. Anderson met
the young man near the platform of the railway and
took him with us to the eating house. He was sent
with the other check to Messrs. Barclay. I followed
him and saw it paid, part'y in 101. notes, and the rest in
money. It was part of my duty in these transac:ions to
see the parties back with the money, and I did se in
this instance. The young man who got the money in
this instance was going over London-bridge instead of
returning to the railway station. I went to him,
touched him on the shoulder, and asked him if he was
not going the wrong way. (Laughter,) He replied he
was going to his late employers to see if Anderson had
sent for his character. At this time Anderson passed by
a name which I can't recollect. He changed his name
each time he sent a check. I said to the young man a
gentleman is waiting for yen at the railway. He has a
particular way of trying his servants before he employs
them. (Laughter.) I then returned with the young
man towards the railway station, and on our way we
met Anderson, who went alone with the young man
into a public-house. When he came ont he and I met
Saward, and he gave to him the money he had received
from the young man. We all went to the neighbour.
hood of Hackney road, when Saward said he would
take the notes and sell them to a man named Hall.
Saward left, and Anderson and I, with two other men,
waited' at a public-house in a street in the Hackney-road.
I should know the house again. Saward subsequently
returned and brought back gold, which was divided
amongst the five. Saward, on that occasion, said he
knew Hall well, but he did not say who he was. I
don't know Peter-street, in Hackney-road, by name.
After this Saward said that if ever I heard of anything or
knew anything I was to communicate with Saunders,
and that if he had anything he would communicate with
me through Saunders. I never knew where Saward lived.
My address was in Cottage-lane, City-road, and I lived
there in the name of Hawes, with a young woman who
passed as my wife. I was occasionally visited there by
my aunt, Elizabeth Hayden, who lived near King's-
cross. Whilst I lived there Saward visited me three
times. Saward on these occasions said he had some
business more to do, as on the former occasion, if I
would like to join him. I did so, and apartments were
taken and a check was presented on Messrs Smiths,
Payne, and Smiths. When Saward visited me he
showed met3iX or seven cancelled checks on Smitb, Payne,
and Co., issued by a person named Ash ; he also showed
me something like this (a check for 901.), saying that
apartments had been taken, so that the checks might be
presented. One apartment was in Oakley-crescent,
City-road, and near the Sportsman, behind the church.
The others were nearer the New River, off from the main
road. I was to watch the men to and from the bank
with the checks and money. I did not know how these
blank checks were obtained. Saward said he had them
from somebody, and that be believed they came from
robbing. Saward left the cancelled checks in my pos-
session on the day a check was presented to Smith,
Payne, and Co. I went with Saward, and we met An-
derson and the same two persons as on the former occa-
sion in the road. We all went to a public-house at the
back of York-place. On these occasions Anderson
dressed up for it. He always wore a wig, and sometimes
whiskers. He dressed himself in the public-house, and
went to the house in Oakley-crescent. I and Saward,
after he went in, watched in the City-road, near the
Sportsman, which is at the corner of Oakley-crescent.
We saw the young man who was to present the check go
in and out of the house. First he was sent to Camden-
town about some luggage. One of the men . who was
with ns at the pnblic-house followed him there and back.
On his return he went into the house in Oakley-cres-
cent. The man employed to watch the young man at the
railway station at Camden-town, returned without him,
being tired of waiting for him in consequence of the
number of inquiries he was making about the luggage.
We were all waiting about the City-road when the
porter came back. When he left the house a second
time he went in the direction of the City, and I followed
him. It had been arranged that Saward and Anderson
were to wait at the public-house until I came back from
the City. I followed him to the bank. The young man
at first went to the counting side for payment of the check
and on his going to the other side he was stopped. I
started off; got on an omnibus, and went to the public-
house and informed Saward and Anderson and
the other men of it, on which we all parted. The
cancelled checks referred to by me, and now pro•
duced, are, I believe, the same I had from Saward.
Another paper like the one produced was also left with
me [a sheet of engraved cheeks of the North-West
Bank of India]. They remained in my possession till
something that occurred afterwards compelled me to
leave in a hurry. They remained in the possession of
the young woman who passed as my wife. When these
documents were givea to me by Saward she was at Byrne
and saw hire. She came into the room while they were
on the table. My aunt was at the house that day. Some
time afterwards I had a communication about some
checks with Saward. He said he had sent to the
banker at the corner of the Haymarket and had got one
—I think it was Ransome'e. It was at a bank nearly
opposite Dent's shop in the Haymarket. On a certain
day I watched three separate young men take three
separate checks to that banking-house. They were
all paid, and the money was handed to S sward, and he,
Anderson, myself, and the other two I have referred to,
shared it. The money was divided into six parts, one
being allotted to the " book." (Laughter.) That went
to the party who obtained the book. I received an extra
portion in Barclay's ease, and Saunders also received a
portion of it. One of the cheques on Messrs. Ransoms
was sent from a house in the neighbourhood of Park-
street, Camden town, and afterwards, in reference to
that cheque, a young man named Markham was appre-
hended in mistake for Anderson.
Mr. Mullins—Unfortunately that young man was
convicted, but as soon as the error was discovered he
was pardoned.
The Lord Mayor—What was the amount on Ran'
some ?

Saturday having boen fixed for the further investigation
of the charges agaicst, Mr. Surr Eiwar. I Pack Barber,
the secretary to this institution, the defendant appeared
before Sir R. W. Carden and Alderman Humphrey at
Guildhall. There were four separate charges of obtain-
ing under false pretences one barrel of porter of Messrs.
Manners and Wells, one sack of flour of Messrs. Pons-
ford and Co., of the City Flour Mills ; one barrel cf
porter of Messrs. Hoare and Co., and one barrel of
biscuits of Messrs. Huntley and Palmer, of Reading,
with intent to defraud those firms.
Fur the greater accommodation of the public, this
case was heard in the Court of Common Pleas, Guildhall.
Mr. Sleigh, instructed by Mr. Buchanan, appeared, as
before, on the part of the prosecution ; and Mr. Joyce,
instructed by Mr. Horseley, for the defence.
The depositions taken on the last examination were
then read over by the chief clerk, and verified by the
witnesses.
Mr. Joyce Paid with regard to the two girls who gave
their evidence en the last occuion, he thought it only
right to say that he was prepared to contradict their
testimony, and in order that they might have an oppor-
tunity of correcting their evidence he wished to cross-
examine them upon it.
Sir R. W. Carden said Mr. Joyce had better not have
the depositions altered.
Mr. Joycs said he bad received information since the
previous day which he intended to bring forward, and he
did not wish it to be thrown in his teeth hereafter that
he had neglected to cross-examine them upon the evi-
dence he should adduce.
Mr. Sleigh objected, and the application was refused.
Mr. Sleigh then applied that all the witnesses might
be ordered out of court while Mr. Joyce was opening
his case.

The court was very much crowded throughout the
learned counsel's address, which lasted shout three
hours.

Mr. Mullins-7-200/.
Examination continued—Shortly afterwards Saward
sent for me in reference to something to come off on
Sankey's. In consequence of what he said I went to
Cumberland-street, Hackney-road. Saward had shown
to me the document that was to be presented. It was
a bill of exchange for 3361. 173. 10d., drawn by M. F.
Jennings and-Co., upon Samuel Dobree and Sons, three
months after date, and due in April. On that day An-
derson went dressed up to a house in Cumberland street,
Haekney•road, and from thence sent a young man with
the bill to Hankeys% The bill was not paid, and I went
to a coffee-house near Shoreditch Church, and
communicated it to Saward and Anderson. I
know Mr. Turner, solicit)r, residing in Red Lion-
square, and I employed him en professional business.
Before that Saward said he had a blank cheque signed
by Mr. Turner, on Goslings, by which they could get
some money. Saward suggested that I should take a
fictitious I 0 U for money owed to me and employ Mr.
Turner to obtain it. The money was to be paid and left
in his hands a few days, because he might psy it into his
banker's, and when I went for the money Mr. Turner
might pay me by
a cheque. I went to Mr. Turner,taking
him an I 0 U for 301. odd, and gave Mr. Turner in-
structions, as had been previously arranged. A sup-
posed debtor was created in the name of Hesp, and a
lodging taken at Bagniggewells-road, with instructions
to the landlord to take in all letters so addressed .Some
days after I went to Mr. Turner to know if the debt had
been paid. I advanced the money for its payment, and
my brother carried it to Mr Turner. When I went
afterwards to Mr. Turner he informed me the money was
paid, and Mr. Turner's clerk unfortunately paid me in cash
instead of by check. I communicated the result of it
to Saward,
who said we must wait a little time, and
then do it again. In the latter end of May I heard of
Hardwicke from Saward. Saward told me he was
going to meet a person in Farringdon-market, who bad
just returned from Australia, who had some
business for him (Saward) to do. By business
I understood forgery. Saward, Anderson, Hard wicks,
and myself met at Farringdon-market as appointed. I
knew Anderson by the name of " Bob." Hardwicke had
been out of England some time, and Saward said he
knew him before that—that he had known him for some

years. I did not understand from that that Hardwicke

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Saward affixed one of the stamps to the 1,0001. bill, and
wrote the indorsement across it. The bill was then
taken I-y Anderson back to the lodging, to be given to
the young man Clements to take to the City. It was
also arranged that we should then disp-rse, and meet at
the public-house at the bottom of Bishopsgate Church-
yard, for the purpose of learning what was the result of
the bill. Hard wicke went to the banking-house, and
was to wait there until I came. Anderson left to go to
the lodging, and I to follow the young man. Saward
remained in the public-house at Kingland the last. The
young man left by 'bus to go to the City, and I rode
unknown to him by the side. I saw him go into the
bank. Hardwicke followed him in, and Seward, who
had come to town, was in the neighbourhood of the bank,
near the clock of the Post-office in King William-street,
where he could see what was going on. Shortly after
'Hardwicke came out of the bauk and gave me a signal,
and I went into the hank. The clerk had got out the
money and entered the note, but on again looking at the
note he found it was a forgery, and he put back the
money again. We all shortly after met at the public
house in Bishopsgate-churchyard, and remained there
an hour. After having some refreshments we all went
to the Shades, London-bridge.

Mr. Mullins—lt was by the merest chance the money
for 1,0001. was not paid.

Witness continued—On -June 16th I again went to
Mr. Turner's, Red Lion-square, the matter having been
discussed amongst us againt Hard wicke advanced 100/.,
and I took his I 0 U, signed in the name of Hart. I
got the I 0 U from Saward, and the same arrangement
was made about a lodging, to which letters were to be
addressed. I gave Mr:Turner instructions to write for
it, and the money was paid to Mr. Turner by some one
Hardwick° employed, because it was his money. A
few mornings after I wont to Mr. Turner's—.
five of us, Saward, Anderson, Hardwicke, myself,
and a fifth man having first met in Red
Lion•square. The firth man had got the blank cheques
which Saward spoke of, by pickiag Mr. Turner's pocket.
I went to Mr. Turner's office, but be was out. We all
waited in the square, when a gentleman passed, and
Saward said "That's Mr. Turner." I went back to
the office, and was paid by a cheque for 1031. Bs. 10d.,
signed by Mr. Turner, for which I gave him a recsipt
in the name of H. Hunter. I used that name on both
occasions.

Mr. Mullins—Why ?
Witness—Because we should then get the first three
letters, hun, to form "hundred," in Mr. Turner's hand-
writing. _

Saward—That is an absurdity. If the cheque were
for a hundred pounds or more the word would be in
the body of the cheque.

Mr. Mullins--Yei ; but on the first occasion you only
tried for 30/.

Mr. Mullins, addressing his lordship, said that he
found himself physically unable to proceed further with
the case that afternoon. The examination of the witness
would occupy nearly two hours longer before it could be
finished, and as it was then a quarter past 4 o'clock, he
proposed to ask for a remand.

Siiward applied to his lordship to have the articles
found on him when apprehended given up to him.
The Lord Mayor—What are they ?
Saward—Five or six shillings, a memorandum book,
two blank checks, and some keys.
The Lord Mayor—The money might, be given up to
you, but the prison regulations will not admit of your
using it. I certainly shall not let you have the other
articles.

Saward—There is also a small tortoise shell pen-
knife.

Mr. Mullins—l shall object to your having that.
The Lord Mayor—l shall not make any order for
the articles being given up to you. Your friends may
have the money.
Mr. Mullins said, that as the further examination of
the witness Atwell would take a considerable time, he
wished an early hour to be named for the next exami-
nation. On that occasion he proposed to finish the
evidence of Atwell, as well as that of the other convict,
Hardwicke. He had upwards of 30 other witnesses to
examine, but he did not propose to take their evidence
until he had the whole of the main facts from the two
convicts.

' The prisoners were then remanded till Wednesday
next, at 12 o'clock.

iItELAS.O.

DUBLIN, SATURDAY MORNING.

LEGAL ENCOURAGEMENT OF PLUNDER.
Under this head the Freeman's Journal has a
pertinent article in reference to the case of Mr.
Montgomery Knighting, whose " real estate" has
bean the subject of legal investigation this week :
"The criminal law, as regards public defaulters, re-
quires serious modifications. At present it is almost
impossible to insure a conviction on a charge of embezzle-
ment ; and we have seen, in the case of Mr. Knighting,
that conviction for forgery under certain circumstances
does not hold out those terrors which the uninitiated
were led to suppose. Mr. Knighting's counsel, in the
course of the week, argued, and argued, we believe, cor-
rectly, that the present law will protect for his personal
use such portions of the plunder of the Great Southern
Company as he invested with due discretion. It would
appear that Mr. Knighting robbed his employers of
several thousand pounds, and that he invested some of
this money in the purchase of real' property. Now, a
just law would hand over all that property to the right-
ful owners. But the old aristocratic system steps in in
aid of felony—and why not 2 for it was itself a huge
felony—and declares, according to the undisputed dicta
of Mr. Knighting's counsel, that real estate is sacred,
and that, even when proved to be the direct produce of
money feloniously obtained, the convicted felon who
stole the money to purchase it may, at the expiration of
his sentence, come out and live in the luxurious enjoy-
ment of his 'real property' without fear of molestation.
The money which this felon expended in the purchase
of chattel property is forfeited to the crown, but all the
fee-simple and freehold purchased by the proceeds of his
forgeries, the law, it is argued, will guard for him till his
return to the world from his temporary retreat will allow
'of his again revelling in his booty. Now, if this be the
1 there is no more certain road to fortune and a luxu-
rious old age than the open path of felony. The felon
has only to be bold in the execution of the Jobbery and
aristocratic in his tastes, and a few years of seclusion,
during which his morals and health will be carefully
attended to at the public cost, will secure to him, while
he is yet youthful and vigorous, wealth which a life of
well-spent industry will not secure for the virtuous and
upright when the worn out energies are no longer equal
to the struggles of life. The honest bank clerk, who
looks forward to a retiring pension of 1001, a year after
40 years' service, has only to turn thief, according to
the alleged law—to make a good haul, invest his 10,0001.
or 20,0001. in the purchase of real estate' in the Hen-
rietta street Court on the first sale day, accept four or
five years' exclusion from the world and its cares, and
emerge, at their expiration, a swell of five and-twenty,
with la, property of 500/. or a thousand a year. If his
plebeian tastes lead him to the funds, or to mortgages,
or judgments, his labour will be in vain ; but only let
him do the real thing, become an estated gentleman,
and the law will protect the estate against the claims
of the plundered, and head it over to the plunderer, at
the expiration of his gaol apprenticeship. If this law
prove good we hope Mr. Knighting will push it to its
full limits, and render the farce of his conviction com-
plete, by placing his real property' under the care of
the Chancellor during the period of his probationary
seclusion."

DUBLIN, SATURDAY EVENING.
It has been blowing a terrible gale of wind since
12 o'clock, and there is scarcely a probability of
the mail boat making the passage to Holyhead
to-night.

P BICES OP SHARES.

Prom the Official Lzst.
rUBLISIIED EVEILY TUESDAY AND FRIDAY EVENIN

LONDON, FRID AX, JAN. 2, 1856.
CANALS.

Names of 4 Dividend Names 01 ti Dividend
Price. per ~..".„,ce.
Companies. A per Companies.
4 Annum '
-4 Annum. y.,
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I
A ehtn &Dia 98 71. p. ct. Peak Forest. 7s 51 Os 76
Birmingham 40 41. Regekt's • • 30 17s 16%
Coventry.. • • .00 11, Rochdale.... 85 41.
Derby .. •••• , 00 61. 15s. 84 ,Stfird &Wor, 45 281. 440
GrandJ unetn 100 11. pr. ct. 'Stoarbridg‘. ,45 111.
Do., 6 pr. Ct. 10 61. pr. et. Severn and' 21.
Grand Union 100 7s 6d Wye Rail. j 26
Kennt & Avn 40 6s. 'Warwick & 21. 25
Leeds &Llvrp 'OO 251. 1 Birming. 3 100
Leicester .. •• 00 61. 491,41 Warwick &I 21. —.
1
Leicstr 3a Nth 83 11. ss. Napton.. 5 100
Loughhorogh 143 704 550 iWorcstr &i
Macclesfield. 100 21. 10s. 51 , Birming. 78 10s.
Neath •••• • • 100 16/. 'Wilts & Brks 7s. Od. —'
Oxford.. •• • • 100 103

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