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ciple of the Bill ha fully concurred, and he believed 0356
vi,ht.n the detalls wi re propc•rh: corrected,
well, and be attendee, wiql goOd results. ea
to o:wider
The Earl of GLE'NGALL sa'd , as
that th, re was a very t:tr, at iojthtice in this measu..ner
it placed the nauper, whose ho,ldina• ~.s rated te• 51. ria
annum, on a footing with the mosCrespectable pe"°°9ll-1
the counties; whereas, on thee other hand, the boro4o,
were juitly and well protected from such an iuneitttl°,,
it would work
Again, he should beseech their Lordships to OPPse „,fleil
mev.suro such as this, which tended to create ter—nd
and dissatisfaction between the people, their priests' sre
the landlords. And, again, he should add, this ree4sittlep
would tend to crowd the House of Commons wry s.:11
agitators as the late Mr. O'Connell, and other such Ills
demagogues, which would ultimately tend to the disnlP.
tion of the constitution. leas
The Alarquis of WESTMEATH said that 11°.,
astonished that such a measure should be sur • us to
Government,
,for nothing could be more per
it
the landed interest of Ireland, and particularlY when I
tended to place the irresponsible portion of Irish so ci ,
on a footing with the respectability of the country. tbst
The Earl of WICKLO W said that the CotnreiU,Eeniest
sat on the poor-law for Ireland considered that tare
sure was essentially requisite for Ireland. aporteu
The Bill was read a second time, and ordered 01
committed on this da (Frida we. hit&
The Sunday Trading Prevention Bill was read aI- ,
time, and passed.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 6.
FACTORIES BILL.
(Continued from our Third Edition of last nigh this
Mr. BROTHERTON did not hesitate to 00 t, :1„1 to
Bill would be more efficient and be more benefit i beer
the working classes than any other Bill whioh had surn
passed into law, and he should give it bis corclis tbst
port. Ile thought if they adopted the relay asst` gear.)
the Bill would be rendered a complete nullity--1/4 object
Mr. BRIGHT regretted that the time when a our.
of that importance was introduced was not one Ji/t0
able to its calm investigation. He did not vault, wsalti
into the general question of the Bill of 1847, "'gage,
confine himself to the amendment before the •`"
That question was not whether women and Y0u°,14,59s
sons should work more than ten hours a day; lluits
ther they should make it imperative on all o°,„°„, pee
machinery not to work more than ten hours. Woofs
position of the Hon. Member for Roxburgh vrool'„ng tb°
the women and young persons, without restric":;aar
employment of adults and machinery to the sat:a:eel:oJ
her of hours, and that was a proposition whichl'istere'
ceived to be well worthy the attention of the Legl r 681'
It did not appear to him that the Hon. Member I,oestii.
ford (Mr. Brotherton) understood the proposition sold
The Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of state bite
inform them that he had many suggestions wad" iso with
with respect to relays, which would not interiellosen
the intention of the Legislature with respect to 10 IS
and young persons. He did not think the House the
possession of a sufficient amount of information 0' ite
subject to legislate against the system of relsisiorelf
knew several instances, both in England and rsoo
which he specified, where a large number of Pee pee
would be at once thrown out of employment if stbsefor,
sent proposition were carried. He should, tuhtliolli
give his cordial support to the proposition of 1"-
Member.—(Cries of " Divide.") wosid
Mr. FOX said a motion for a Select Committee gaes
reopen the entire question, which had been long d ,bet
decided by Parliament.—(Hear.) They had befit,' toll
it was intended to stop the system of relayet a°
eyed
while that was allowed, it would be impossible to Ifto do
evasion of the law. All that the Cummittee hs°,ooool
now, in his opinion, was to vindicate the faith an
ci ",.
I fir
of the Legislature.—(Hear.) The Bill of the Into
tlfs
Fielden had been accepted by the working pee Per Fully i°
country as a boon, and had been acted on, grate ill the
one case and fsithfully in an other. By that mnperle
manufacturers had not been injured, although th°-",sbe
tives had been benefited.—(Hear.) Striving for
it a6od'
working classes had done for so many years, acme °
ing at last the advantages of it, it must here „the
great disappointment to them eventually to bovies to
word Ilf promise kept to the ear," and yet br° sibi°ll
them in reality.—(Hear.) If they took away 0040 of
they bad given to the operatives, they deprived td pies
that which was of the greatest value to them, °ll,
it to those to whom it was of no value whatsoer'.;:seich
hoped, therefore, an amendment would be resistee'oee
would go to nullify all the legislation which h3d.de,"),
place on that subject.—(Hear, and cries of "Di" of
Mr. S. CRAWFORD, as the representative t
manufacturing locality, expressed his hope tba.,oo
House would not depart from the original intent ''',"olst.
bad expressed, manifested, and acted upon, in `,e700."
ing on that important question on a former oce."-•
(Cries of " Divide.")
el'
The Committee then divided when there ePPec-r
For the amendment
04;6
Against it ... ••• ;
,'
Majority against the amendment ... ed."
Lord ASHLEY then moved to insert in line !"
the word "act," the words "no child." Thet,c the,
quence of the omission of these words would lid wli,
children of the teaderest years would be compel
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to work in the morning at haltpast are'bofel
adult women and young persons would not cores 00
six, and might be kept in the afternoon till 11 die
.T
eight, when adult females and young persons -r
missed at six. 00/
A, 0 of
Sir G. GREY said the omission of the words of
accidental, for the Bill abstained from all alte'-ti°P,,,'
the law as fur as regarded children, as did also
of his Noble Friend (Lord Ashley), to which hie be
sent objection applied just as much us to this ili/i" 0 ill'
effect of his Noble Frleud's amendment would s "ellor.
troduce an additional limitation to the hours of le t°,
Lord ASHLEY said his object was to stio tit
children of tender years the same protection st!hl'efis;
forded to adult females and young persons. 0° :ere
that a very large proportion of the millowoeo -
favour of his proposition. One of the first men, ille,offl
(heater had written to him approving of fese.ntohl
which he had taken, and declaring his cons'ictl"wbin
an
public opinion would condemn a system ander -
children were made to work earlier d later
0,
adults.
• sio°
Mr. AGLIONBY had thoht that the 0123'6_, siert'
the words arose from inadvertence; and be W":„0 i°l
to hear the Right Hon. confessßaronet' that it "
tentional. thBt vg
Mr. EDWARDS said, the result would. be yoots
labour of children would be substituted for tbat
persons. • 140'
of eats('
Mr. BRIGHT condemned the syetern Jae_ite
mentary interference in regulating the howl -by t',
The amendment did not iirise from syroP9,th'
these children out of doors, but for '-';‘) 0,41
pose of covertly checking adult lehoul,ertt,
chinery, and steam-engines, which the 011%sess;;
of the motion did not dare to d° lietero
What had been the result of their for°3ecreilasdreS
ference but to increase pauperism precise/Y ~
of that age which came within the restriction: 0)10
The only result of the Noble Lord's plan would the t 0
crease the evil. He held in his hand a letter 130 Cd
tnillowner who formerly employed as mail 690s0tle
dren under 13 years of age, stating that so Wegeolltnet
been the meddling of the inspector that he -.-Sursa
came disgusted and discharged them all. Thei,.l-00P,0
follow worse counsel than that of the Noble 1,43'100,
friends, who wanted to make the FactorY Act 4.1
restrictive than it always was. " tuolll.olei
Mr. BROTHERTON said that it w0u..,",e,'
recommendation to the Bill if it were made n-(10 ,swot
namely, if it seated that they were to work '"(' OW
re° the morning until six in the evening. Tflo', 010° to
of the opponents to the Bill appeared to he tu -oinfiests
law. He would do all he ceuld to make the In; a Ptho
simple that all the world could understand
hi
he was sure that none of the evils apprebie?":- „cis
lion. Member for Manchester would ever or'sv,;',eal'ore
Mr. MUN IZ said that the work was don
j_e 03:01,
fine profits that the manufacturers wanted wo„"'toll
work out of the children than they were flu'''. to
He would support the amendment.
. ilarev
Sir G. GREY thought it better to lettim a000:010
that protection which the law already sifforck: vrincirrp,
Mr. M. GIBSON said that this was 1313""ss•Ceie-it
introduced into the Bill, which was wholly whic"
to meet the object of the Noble Lord, 11.,3 I the
carried would have a most injurious tendol.l,.:ets't 0+ osi°
Mr. WALTER thought that the atnellu:epr°sPscr
Noble Lord wee necessarily a corollary e-
tion fur the litnitation of adult labour. ill°
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dedly in favour of the amendment. firfl'aorj
Mr. STANSFIELD hoped that the Nobi°- atle-
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not press his motion, considering the oo'
under which it was made.
s. the g
Mr. TRELA WNY said, considering ths- 100 *ft
;flier
sition of the Noble Lord would be seriouslY,.7pers'
the labouzing classes, he would consistently els
his opposition to all measures of this chose...son ore
Mr. SLANEY thought that the proPcsiti 00;11°0'
Noble Lord weuld have the effect of litnitinigo'beur°l
of labour and the working of machinery to to posses,
tirely, snd, being of that opinion, ho would p. tee
interfering most injuriously with the worki,",„1"00
Alderman SIDNEY supported the antecup:s. uly,efser
Noble Lord on the ground of hurrianith 0"
was agreed to, the children would have t°
o'clock in the morning to prepare for work., '
Mr. HEYWOOD opposed the ameadnien" Abed
The Committee then divided, when there ttPl2
For Lord Ashley's amendment 101„,
Against it ... •••
Majority against the amendment "" 0 to
Mr. BEST withdrew his amendment. desiei° be
Lord ASHLEY said, in consequence of the,tvisioti'yeti
which the Committee had come on the late 4`'ice 1:1 of/
felt himself relieved from the obliaation sy"elee, ache
under in respect to the Bill.' ' ilds 110 pile
himself of the next favourable pror , tsfli
claims of those children upon tie -Ott je • 01;10 V
Mr. BROTHERTON Hoped that the e
would persist iu his exertions to render the.: •fr seti
, . 0
tive as posiible. d Oa* If..
Lord ASHLEY only wished to Kuril' toe
being considered now under any , obngiti"_:
it. He considered himself perfectly at libeejsslfre'elo
any course he pleased with reference to Oil
Sir G. GREY had always understood •to oie veto
'Lord's intention to be to include childrellolo,ollol
although he had informed him that the i 0 ford the
would oppose such a propesition. The Nub'l taltelore
acted most consistently throughout, °Eli! ,1,1,1,1 be ht,'"
sense of the House upon his amendmene -num
vionsly intimated to him (Sir G. GreY) w- lee
The clauses up to 6 were then agreed to. ~_0 eel so
Mr. P. SCROPE moved the insertion of taucted, toci
ing; clause •—" Previded always, and he* it Ito ds/tho
during ail or past of tine period between tt7
ill of the
Sept, tuber of any year and the Ist day (I,,:rabsvolio
following year yourg psrsons and ferosn satot_lo%
ego of 18 years may be employed, exceet,.v:;,o mayo.
between the hours of sew n of the clock oa :o"nints,e,
and sevt-n of the di)ell (~f the tutd'e
stead:of the hours hereinbefore o soy
following regulations and eonditiQue (that t
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