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100. At present the number was .96. He was sorry
that circumstances had obliged them to reject some of
the other recommendations of the Committee. The
exact number, however, of the cadets, should appear in
the estimates. He had only further to add, that no very
considerable reduction could be made this year in the
non-effective department, but in the matter of half-pay
some relief might Ise obtained; and though at first view
it might not be apparent on the face of the estimates,
yet those who took the trouble to look into the question
would find that a saving was effected. With regard to the
packet service, it would not be necessary for him to add
much to what he had already stated, beyond saying this,
that sinoe the estimates were prepared contracts had been
entered into respecting the Holyhead and Kingstown
packets, and those contracts were in accordance with the
recommendations of the Committee. Other lines were
under consideration, such as that between Hong-Kong
and Australia, as well as steam communication with
Brazil. This, however, would not call for any very
large sum of money, and he could assure the House that
every effort had th!en made to reduce expenditure to the
lowest point that W;,3 at all consistent with efficiency.—
(Hear, hear.) He concluded by moving a resolution to
the effect that the number of men for the sea service

during thirteen lunar months be 39,000.
Mr. HUME said that he had remained, late as the
hour was, to record his opposition to so extravagant a
vote. Ministers had talked of following o'at the recom-
mendations of the Committee, but had they, as the
Commit es recommended, reduced the 150 Admirals to
100, though they had contrived to reduce the poor men
in the dockyards? It appeared to him that there was
no reason whatever for a fleet so large—a fleet in the
Mediterranean doing mischief—it was scattering money
which the country could not very well spare. Looking
at the average number of men voted during the last six
years, he found it to be 31,459.; and he should now
move, as an amendment, that that be the number fur the
present yr a-.
Sir G. PECHELL expressed the great satisfaction
with which lie had listened to the statement of the Right
gononrable Baronet; but there was a point on which
be wished to make an observation. He understood that
the allowance of grog to the sailors was now a matter
ander consideration, and he must be allowed to say that
it was a very ticklish affair; and, in abolishing any por-
tion of the allowance of grog, they ought to proceed
most cautiously.
Colonel SIBTHORP said, that although the naval
service ought to be maintained, yet he did think that in
the Admiralty department a saving might be effected.
Captain PELIIAM regretted that a vote on so im-
portant a subject should be taken at so late an hour, and
thought the proper course would be for the Chairman
to report progress. The country would not be satisfied
with the economy of the lti,,;ht Honourable Gentleman
—(heer, bear),—aud there would be further reductions
before long, which could be carried into effect without
In any way injuring the efficiency of that service which
was the real strength of this country. On general
grounds he would vote with tie Hon. Member (Mr.
flume). if he persisted in diving tfie House.
Mr. BANKES agreed entirely with•the Hon. Member
for Montrose, that a portion of our naval force was em-
ployed in a very questionable manner at this moment,
and when such was the case, year aftz year, it could
not be matter of surprise to find the naval estimates
were exceeded. He should be glad to be informed by
the Noble Lord opposite in what light they were to con-
sider the Grecian vessels captured by our fleet, which,
up to the present moment, according to a statement in
that day's paper, amounted to 160 sail? Were they to
be considered as prizes taken in war or not?—(Hear,
hear.) We had subjected ourselves to the mediation of
another Power, and if they decre el we were wrong, we
should have to pay damages, which would cause another
excess of estimate. _ _

- Lord PALMERSTON—I rather think the Honour-
able Gentleman the Member for Dorsetshire is misin-
formed with respect to the number of vessels taken.
At least, by the last accounts we have received, they
were only hetwcen 40 and 50. The condition in which
those vessels are is that of pledges taken and held
in deposit for the ratisfAction of the claims of this
country. If those claims aro satisfied, then the
vessels are released. If it should be necessary to
carry reprisals out to the fall extent under the law of
nations, they will be condemned and sold, and the pro-
emeds will be applied to the purpose of satisfying those
demands by tie( :Las of the process well known to the law
of nations where a commission issues under an order in
Council.—(Hear, hear.) With regard to the apprehen-
sion which the Hon. Gentleman seems to entertain, I
beg to ie.:firm him that we have not accepted the arbi-
tration of any power.—(Hear, hear.) We have accepted
the good offices of France with the view of obtaining an
amicable settlement of our claims. There is no sub-
jection on the part of our Government to any arbitra-
tion.—(Hear.)
Captain HARRIS suggested that-as the army had
three field-marshals, the navy ought to have two admi-
rals of the fleet, and advocated the claims of Sir G.
Cockburn to the distinction.
Mr. HUME declared he would
The Committee accordingly divided, when there ap-
peared—
_

For the amendment
Against it ... .
Majority ••• •••
The motion was then agreed tn.
The House resumed, and the Chairman reported pro-
grew and obtained leave to sit again.
REGISTRAR OF METIWOLITAN CARRIAGES.
The report on the Registrar of Metropolitan Uarriages
Bill was taken into consideration.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY wished to know what would
be the amount of saving made by the adoption of the
arrangement propose 1 to be carried into effect 1;)y the
Bill ?

... 117
...--93

Mr. LEWIS statod that it wail! b' 1,400/. a year.
JUSTICESHIP OF TIN: BENCH AND OF

THE PLEAS,

Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved for leave to bring 'n
a Bill to regulate the salaries of the offie3ra of the
Chief Justice of the Court of Queen's Bench and of ti'e
Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas. Oa a
former evening he stated the object of this Bill, in reply
to a question which had been addressed to bins.
When Lord Denman was appointed Lord Chief Justice
of the Queen's Bench he consented to receive 8,0001.
per annum, instead cf 10,0001., the amount of salary
fixed by Act of Parliament. The Bill would give a
legal sanction to that bygone arrangement, and would
also fia the salary for the future at 8,0004 per annum.
Lord Oampbell bad accepted office with full knowledge
of the intention of the Government to introduce the pre-
sent Bill, and he, of course, would receive only 8,0001. a
year. The Bill also fixed the salary of the Chief Jus-
tice of the Common Pleas, which was at present 8,0001.
prospectively at 7,000/.

Leave suss given for the introduction of the Bill.

Mr.. BOUVERIE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
regulate the amount of fees received by certain officJrs of
the Court of Common Pleas.
On the motion of Mr. MACKINNON the Meet
Committee on postal communication to Paris and the
north of Europe was nominated as follows:—Mr. Mac-
kinnon, Mr. Cowper, Mr. Robert C. Hildyard, Sir J.
Duke, Admiral Bowles, Mr. MacGregor, Mr. Repton, Mr.
Brotherton, Mr. Brown, Mr. H. Baring, Mr. Grenville
Berkeley, Captain‘Fordyce, Mr. Moffatt, Mr. Hugh
Adair, and Admiral Berkeley.
Adjourned at One o'clock.

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