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sent Government could not carry out. The Noble Lord honour to say, that what he was pleased to call his 1 Captain PLUMRIDGE seconded the motion, and in
said they could not do justice to Ireland, and referred 1 peroration, was, in his own opinion at least, not to be I doing so, said he would take the opportunity of asking
to the emancipation of the Roman Catholics from their i thrown away.—(Hear, hear.) Such was the general ' the Right Hon. Baronet if they might expect the report
disabilities. The Noble Lord need hardly have ad- : opinion of those who made observations in that 'House, of "the Commissioners on the Harbours 'of Refuge,
dressed that to him, so far as the practical measure ' —(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet said that the 1 before the termination of the session.
by which those disabilities were removed was ' present Government had done ten times more to remove I Sir R. PEEL knew that the CoMmissioners had been
concerned-so far as the encountering of hazard restrictions than their predecessors. He did not admit ' diligently engaged in the consideration of the subject
and making sacrifices to forward it, the Noble Lord the correctness of the arithmetical calculations on which ever since their appointment. He believed that their
had no great reason to taunt him iteLh not attempting to this statement was founded, but he hoped he would be first report might be expected about the first week in
do justice. With regard to the Established Church, he able to make a larger boast at the close of the next August, but he should be extremely sorry to hurry them.
could not well understand the Noble Lord. Since last session.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet With respect to the motion of the Hon. Gentleman, he
session he had made a speech strongly in favour of main- said the Government had proposed a scheme of educe- acknowledged its importance, and would grant the mo.
taking the Established Church in Ireland. The Noble tion which was prevented by resistance from being tion, not on occount of the warlike considerations to
carried out; but he did not get rid of the force of his which the Hon. Gentle nan had referred, but because he
Lord said it was impossible for them to attempt to carry
• out any general measure of education i but last year remark, that it was the prejudices existing in the considered it of the greatest importance to do everything
they did make more than one attempt to provide a Government itself which prevented them from proposing to promote our commercial prosperity ; and it certainly
limited system of' education. There were obstacles in to Parliament a scheme. founded on a large and Com_ was most important that the internal parts of the king-
the way of that measure.
prehensive principle.--(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. doorshould be enabled by means of our rivers, to keep
An HON. MEMBER—It was very limited. Baronet, the Secretary of State for the Home Depart- up a communication with the sea. He thought that
Sir Rs PEEL—If it was limited, the greater pity that ment, distinctly stated that he would not go one step, in it would have been better if the terms of the
it was so opposed. But it was not on account of the the way of relaxation, beyond' the point which those motion had been more general, but he would.
Government's party predilections that the plan failed. who sat on that side of the House thought was not not object to it. In granting the motion, he
But one other avenue to permanent distinction, the Noble sufficiently liberal to render the measure acceptable and mu -t be understood as consenting merely to a pre-
Lord said, was yet open to them—that was, an effectual useful to the country.—(Hear, hear.) Well, now, with litninary inquiry—all after matter must be fur future
-et
measure for the suppression of the slave-trade. He - regard to Ireland, he had stated that the Government consi ration. He thought the Hon. Gentleman had
could assure the Noble Lord that her Majesty's Govern-
were unable, through the obstacles which they had raised, rather over-rated the danger. He seemed frightened—
meat, if that were the only avenue open to them to ac- .to give contentment to the six millions of Catholics (Laugh ter)—and showed unnecessary grounds for alarm.
quire a lasting reputation, would not neglect the oppor
_ 1 inhabiting Ireland. The Right Hon. Baronet, in reply, The Admiralty were not to blame, for the Bill brought
tunity it afforded to them. They felt deeply impressed, not reminded him that it was mainly to himself that the Catho- in—a Bill which conferred considerable powers on the
from any warm or exclusive feeling of interest, that lies owed the great boon conferred upon them byratholic Admiralty—was so mutilated by Parliament that these
the imputation of deriving any advantage from suf- Emancipation. No man was more sensible of the merit of Powers were greatly abridged, almost annihilated. He
fering other nations to continue the system of slavery, the Right Hon. Baronet in that respect than himself. thought inquiry might be of service; and having made
having ourselves abolished it, was an absurd one. The Though not belonging to the Government of that period,- these explanations he would not further obstruct the
position of this country with respect to slavery was a he had had the honour of giving it his support; and he object which the Hon. Member had in view.—(Hear.)
peculiar one. It had two great objects before it—the always contended that the sacrifice of private feeling and Sir C. NAPIER thought the Right Hon. Baronet
effectual suppression of the slave-trade; and the suppres- personal advantage to public duty, which he then made, had treated with undeserved contempt the remarks of
Mon of it by means which were recognised by the gene- did him the greatest honour.—(Hear, hear.) But it was the Hon. Member. He certainly thought it a matter of
ral law of nations. They must not, by ill-considered not enough to emancipate a great body of men, to make the greatest importance that the harbours of refuge, as
attempts to effect that object, unduly hazard the main- them by law capable of holding office and taking a share well as the other harbours should be kept in a state of
tenance of amiable relations with other countries. The in the government of the country, if they did not practi- efficiency. Although relations between this country
interruptions of those relations, if unjustly occasioned, caller give them access to those situations and that influ- and France were at present of an amicable nature, still
would do nothing for the suppression of the slave-trade. ence to which they had by law been rendered eligible.— it was incumbent on them to be in a state of readinesS,
England must keep herself in the right. With that re- (Hear, hear.) His complaint against the Go- and not by their neglect and inefficient state of their
servation, the Government would proceed temperately— vernment was, that practically they excluded from harbours, to give France advantges, in case of war, which
would act according to the law of nations—would ex- all share in the Government, six millions of people. might prove disastrous to this country.
tend its protection to the weak as well as the strong. —(Hear, hear.) Now, he would not go into all the Dr. BOWRING supported the motion, as did Sir
With that reservation, he could assure the Noble Lord topics on which the Right Hon. Baronet had dilated, but n
_ENHAM J. NORREYS.
that her Majesty's Government was deeply impressed he would say'that he bad heard with the greatest delight ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION.
both with the duty and policy, on the highest considera- the remarks with which he had closed his speech. Mr. E. DENISON then moved for an address for an
tion of public welfare, of suppressing the slave-trade, Whether his motion were too long or too short, too early account in detail of
the sums of money received and ex-
and if that avenue to fame remained open to them, the or too late, he was d=elighted that it had afforded the Go- pended by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners for En -
Government would avail itself of it, as far as honest and vernment an opportunity of stating its intentions, feel. land. He thought that these
persevering means would allow them.—(Cheers.) ings, and opinions on the subject of the slave-trade.— •
cised their powers to . an extreme length, and inflicted
Sir C. NAPIER commenced by alluding to the pro- (Hear, hear.) He hoped all the nations in the world great hardships on private individuals, in violation of the
would that in England there were not two parties on expressed opinion of Parliament. When the returns
tection given by the treaty with America to vessels sail- this subject that, however the
ing under the American flag. By the Ashburton treaty differ on ;'
or foreign questions, on the question
it was agreed that an American cruiser should sail in
of the - slave-tradei they were united as one man ; that
company with an English one. Now America sent onlyof Parliament.
whatever • Government might be inpower, there
would
eighty guns to the African station. That would furnish . - .Mr. ELPHINSTONE did not think the returns pro-
ne no change of policy, there being a fixed determination
but a very few cruisers, unless they only gave one or posed by his Hon'. Friend were sufficient. He should
. on thepart of the British people, that this odious
two guns to each, whieb, he concluded, the American and therefore move for a return of the incomes, of all Arch-
detestable slave- trade should be brought to
had not done. Now if an English ship, sailing in tom- bishops and Bishops of Englandand Wales •
an end.—(Cheers.) He felt sure that when that wa • well • -
pany with an American one, was to overtake the slaver ' Sir J. GRAHAM consented to the motion on behalf
known, the speechofthe •
as
before the American came in sight, he wished to knowof the Government. When the Hon. Gentleman brought
make it, when Government knew that that was the set- •
if the British ship would have a right to board and search tied determination
ed of every British Government, and • •
that slaver if she should hoist the American flag. Now principle adopted by the Church Commissioners, with
that in pursuing such acourse every British Government
be thought that was one of the most important things in Would receive the unanimous respect to Church property, was founded on equity and
support of the whole Bri-
carrying out the slave treaties, and he hoped, before the justice. As to the amendment of the Hon: Member who
tish people, that resistance, which private influence and had
close of the debate, they would have a distinct avowal spoken last (Mr. Elphinstone), he telt -bound to re-
local prejudice had opposed to the entire suppression of • •
whether a British cruiser coming up with a vessel bear- the sist it. . .
slave-trade, would at length give wag, and he could
ing the American flag would board that vessel before the After a few observations from Mr. Hume, Mr. V.
assure the Right Hon. Baronet,that if his
Government ,
American cruiser came up He did not think the Right should have the honour.
ancl the glory of putting the Kn; h
Smith, the Chancellor of the Exehequere. and Mr. G.
Hon. Baronet was quite right in saying that his Noble g t,
with crowning hand to this great work, and be able to state to Friend was the chief cause of England breaking off Sir R. PEEL said he hoped the Commissioners would
Parliament, that by th •
their measures the slave-trade had
France. Why England did not break off from France,exercise the powers which the Legislature had given to
been utterly extinguished, or broughtto
an impercePs them unfettered -in their discretion, and . that nothing
but France from England, so that he was not entirely to table ' point, no party feeling, no personal consideration, ie .h
blame,w it occurred in debate in that House would induce
Sir R. PEEL hoped Ms Gallant Friend would not would abate or diminish the pleasure withwhich he
should receive the announcement his
or disposition to do
give any explanation of the instructions sent out. Theof duty dictated. The Orders in Council were in them-
honourthe 'to Government that had accomplished so
American Government had declined to give their in-selves great, but in his opinion the Co • :missioners had
great a work.—(Loud cheers )
atructions, and he thought that if the instructions were g Sir R. PEL. exercised their power under them with great discretion
made known, it would have the effect of counteracting -
.and judgment. The chief object of their. labours would
the objects they had in view. But, in order to show the count
iof the number of slaves emancipated in Sierra be to increase the value of ecclesiastical property, and
spirit which existed between the British and American Surinam and other laces
Leone Surinam p , from 1819 to 1844. apply that incre to •h 1 ase . e supply of the spiritual wants
The motion was then agreed to.
officers, he would read a letter from Captain Foot. (Theof the nation. Again, he would express . his hope that
Bight Hon. Gentleman then read a letter from Captain HARBOURS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM • they would not be influenced in deft 'conduct by any
Foot, which stated that the basis of a good understand- Mr.. HUME rose to move for returns on this subject. mere debate in that House. . .
He said this was a subject of domestic
importance which
ing between the American and British squadrons was re- Mr. LIDDEL said, as the Hon. Gentleman opposite
he was very anxious to bring before the House. -
Ina
established, and he trusted it would continue.) He (Sir (Mr. Dennison) had expressed his determination to bring
country which depended so much on its ships and coal- this • •
B. Peel) could not give the instructions, but this letter subject distinctly before the House on a future
m
they, mast have harbours as well as seamen, and
showed the spirit which existed. merceoccasion,. he should be prepared to tithe part in the dis-
on this subject he thought the policy of this country had , •
Sir C. NAPIER said he had not asked for the instruc- been extremely - ussion, and protect the interests of the inhabitants.
•
tions. He merely wished to know from the Gallant , liable of receiving vessels of large' dimensions, Dr. BO WRING said, this was a motion merely asking
Officer opposite what was to be done in a certain case ? would now scarcely admit boats. There coul for some statistical details, and he bad not heard a
Sir R. PEEL said that when the case had occurred an be nothine • h h •
s, more certain tan tat it was the shadow of a reason for refusing them. Surely when that
answer would be given. duty of this country to mantain her harbours in as '
House asked
for certain facts of a case .it was not right
in the Government to refuse them. - -
Mr. PETER BORTHWICK complimented the Right perfect a -state as possible. What he wanted was, that Mr. BROTHERTON said, Hon. Gentlemen on the
lion. Baronet at the head of the Government on the the country should not lose the harbours which nature
firmness and caution which he had displayed with re- had given to it. - They knew that in the time of opposite side of the House, when sitting on the seats
Bard to this subject, but he did not think that the Right Charles 11. a 64-gun ship might enter the harbour of Occupied by himself and friends;_• used to -charge
Hon. Baronet, or the Noble Lord, was justified in saying Rye, whereas in 1819 it would scarcely admit a boat. upon them that they were great spoliators of
the Church ; but he 'believed thoie persons who thus
that Queen Isabella of Spain had a juster claim to legiti- There was scarcely a single harbour which
pro-impugned the conduct of others. were, after all,
ma.cy than Don Carlos. per Commissioners had been appointed to protect. b
• -
Captain PECHELL thought that the Right Hon. In one harbour, that of Southwold, upwards of 3,000 but pretended friends of the Church—(Hear, hear)—
Baronet had displayed the part of a discreet and acres, over which the tide had flowed had been enclosed. and he (Mr. Brotherton) believed' that. Lord John Ras-
cautions Minister in laying an embargo on the Hon. The Lords of the Admiralty ought not to suffer any har- sell's Bill for the better regulation of Church property
Gentlemen connected with the Admiralty, which pre- ' hour to be deprived of a single cubic foot of water by would have been carried if there had not been. found so
vented them from answering the question put by his these encroachments, without an equivalent. He wished many leaseholders of Cherch property in opposition to
Hon. and Gallant Friend. He concurred in the policy the Government to take up the question. The Commis- it.—(Cheers and laughter.) The Untied interest had
of increasing the naval forces on the 'coast of Africa, sioners appointed to consider the state of the Medway it got hold of-Church property on easy, terms, and they
but he thought that the force on the coast of Cuba and Rochester, among whom were Sir Byam Martin and Sir liked it very much.—(Laughter.) ' He (Mr. Brotherton)
:Brazil ought not to be diminished. He trusted that the Robert Sepping, had reported that every encroachmenttherefore, hoped with the Right Hon. Baronet at the
force on the coast of Africa would now be of such a on our rivers and harbours should be viewed with *ea- - head of the Government, that the Commissioners would
description as would prevent it from being so harassing lousy ; and had suggested the revision, arid the conjsb- make the most they could of the ecclesiastical property
to the officers employed there. He also hoped that the lidation of the Acts of Parliament relating to this sub- committed to their charge, and be guarded by their own
ten-gun brigs would be done away with, and that vessels ject, and the appointment of officers to inspect and sense of what was right rather than to the suggestions of
other people.
of a better description would be employed. The Hon. preserve these harbours. Several naval officers and
and Gallant Gentleman referred to the evidence given engineers, whom he •
among might mention Captain
Mr. WAWN said, that coming from Durham,. he could
by Capt. Broadhead, who stated that, if he had such a Samuel Nicholson and Mr. Walker, had expressed their speak of that place as well as most people, and he begged
give his opinion
to
aesteel as the Waterwitch, he would capture five out of concurrence in these opinions ; and if measures were
six et' the vessels with which he came in sight. He not speedily adopted remedy
these evils, they would property were the clergy themselves.
to
The gallery was-then cleared for a division, and the
thought :hat the Noble Lord deserved well of civilised become irreparable. So
great had these encroachments numbers were—
Europe
for hSt endeavours to put down the scandalous —which had been made contrary to law—become, th at For the amendment
traffic in slaves.—Hear, hear.) they must be put down. Lord Ellenborough and Mr. Against it
Lord PALMERSTO,N replied. He said that the Justice Bailey had laid down,tbe law, that the property . Majority against the amendment —2B
Right Hon. Baronet had iieither done justice to himself in the soil of rivers, when there was a flux and reflux of The origi • • nal motion was then granted.
nor to him (Lord Palmerston). The Right Hon. Ba- the tide, was in the King, and not in the lord of the •
vonet had not-done-justice to hitn, because he had stated manor. It was agrand sight to see the fleets of ships which LUNATICS AT HASLAR. -
th et 'it was, his intention to dismiss' the slave trade in 0- crowded our Oast, brit it was iibsO/utely necessary- that Captain PECHELL breught wider the consideration
.
net's (—nor to:hiinselr,,beeituseehe Right lion. Baronet, something • shoel& be donef'to afford protection to these of the'House the case of the lunatic naval officers in the
dieing so well int-on:tied on leiery subject connected with ships in time of war. He had the other day stood hospital at Hasler. He stated the circumstances under
the government of this country, it was not possible he on a prominence on the coast .of Norfolk, and had which they were removed from the asylum at Saxton to
could be taken at a disadvantage. He could assure the counted more than 200 sail of ships. Now what would Hasler, and the regulations made by the Admiralty for
Right Hon. Baronet that he would feel greater pleasure be the fate of all these vessels, if war should take place ? deducting from the half-pay, received by their wives, one
in hearing a I'llll answer given to his motion, than if he Let it be recollected that steam navigation had altered half of the usual amount o-t account of additional expense.
had obtained a mere party triumph, and for this reason. the nature of war. We should want harbours everY. By an order from the Admiralty, dated 11th Jan. 1932,
that he considereil this a most interesting and impor. where for these vessels to escape from the steam-boats it was agreed to restore this pay, 'with the arrears, but
tent subject.—(Hear- hear-) The Right Hon. Baronet which would steal out after them. Last year there had the order was afterwards cancelled. When the Right
had given an answer in some respects, bat in others he cleared out of the ports of this kingdom 21,980 ships, Hon. Gentleman recollecteB the suffiring which had been
had failed to do so. First, with regard to the refusal of being an aggregate of 3,753,000 tons engaged in the caused by withholding those small sums, he thought he
the French Government to ratify the treaty which they foreign trade, and 141,697 ships, being an aggregate of would alter.his opinion and 'allow an inquiry itito those
had signed, though he agreed with the Right Hon. Ba- 11,321,000 tons engaged in the home trade. Now, in cases. He now cane to the particularcase of Mrs. Forbes,
ronet in thinking that that refusal would justify the what condition would these ships be, with which our whose claim the Government refused, because, they'
British Government in altering their friendly relations seas were swarming, in the event of a war ? He would said-his insanity was not caused while in the service he
with France, yet still he. thought that the British Go- refer to the evidence of the Duke of Wellington, given was employed in. But it could be proved beyond all
sternment ought, as a matter of example, to have put on before the Shipwreck Committee in 1843, as a proof of doubt, he believed, that the seeds of the disease under
re. oird a friendly protest. The Right Hon. Baronet had the importance of this Subject. ' The Noble Duke had whiCh he suffere&were in conSequenee of the emplOyieent
,said that he was responsible for the irritation which had stated that the trade of the port of London would be- he was engaged in, on board the Vengeur' in New Or-
subsis.`ed between both countries. He (Lord Palmerston) come a losing trade in time of war, if something were leans. It was said that Lieutenant Forbes had left the
could ne•t accept that responsibility. He would venture not done for its protection against the effect of steam in service and entered into the merchant service ; ' but he
to say tha,
'no wan had attached more importance to the maritime warfare ; and had dilated upon the advantages retained his half pay, and had the sanction of' the Ad-
„istence oe friendly relations between France and which the French would .possess. They had the sun at miralty for taking that step. If the Gallant
England than he' had done, especially when he was in their back, and they could see evert, vessel coming up Admiral made- the proper inquiries he 'would find
office. They had eseen alluded to the cordial union which the channel, could calculate the time at which she would that what he (Ceptain Pechell) had stated was' correct.
subsisted between bteth countries in speeches from the be at a given point, and meet her. 'The Noble Duke had He did not believe that either the Hon. Meniber for
Throne, and boasted of it in speeches in that House. used the words " maritime warfare," in contradistinction Montrose, or the. Hon. Member for Coventry, would have
The Right Hon. Baronet had said that it was owing to to naval warfare, because it would be inipossible to protect any objection to granting those small sums to those per-
some act of his that these friendly relations had ceased. ships by naval means. This proved the necessity of sons in Heeler Hospital, and that those were not items to
Now, what was the fact? He would not go into the de- I providing harbours in which these -ships should take re-
which they had any objection. The motion he had to
tails of the Syrian negotiation, but it was well known fuge. The. Prince de Joinville had alluded to the facility make was for a Select Committee, to which the petitions
that at the commencement of that negotiation they be- with which France, by her steam navy, might injure the of Mrs. Charlotte Forbes, Mrs. Sarah Rickettseand Mrs.
sieved England and France had the same objects in view. commercial navy of Great Britain, and recommended' Burgess were to'be referred. '
It was on record that the negotiations began by a dis- the improvement of steam navigation to his countrymen, ' - Mr. HUN-1E had suppoited the claims of Mrs. Forbes
tinct proposition on the part of the French Government because by it they could wound England in two points, eighteen years ago, and he looked upon the 'cliiin.as one
to the other Powers, that they would .maintain the in- in which she was equally vulnerable. They could shake of justice, and trusted the time was time when it would
~ teerity .of the Turkish empire. That was a policy L the confidence of' the British people in their insular posi- be granted. -
founded net due regard to the interests of England. tion, and also in their maratime power. It ought to be Sir G. CI )CKBURN said that the rule had formerly
. and the peat.' of Europe ; and he believed those who sat our abject to guard against these dangers. In the liar- been, that officers who became insane while on service
opposite to him held, in common with him, that the lbour. of Southwold 149,000,000 cubic feet of water, were taken into the asylum at Hasler, and that half
maintenance of the integrity of the Turkish empire was amounting to 30,000,000 of tons, were excluded every their half-pay was devoted to their maintenance, the
an object of gret, t importance in both those respects. tide. There were 16 inelosures in the neighbourhood of other half being paid to the relations. In 1822 this in-
They thought that by the treaty of Unkiar Skilessi the this harbour, containing 2,724 acres, which had formerly dulgence was extended'te officers on half-Pay. In 1831,
integrity of that empire was in great danger, and they been covered by water. The harbour of Sandwich bad instead of deducting half the half-pay, a deduction was
embarked in a course of measures tending to.what they + been lost in the same manner, and at Montrose there made of Is. 6d. a day, but that was merely** prospec-
considered to be the direct interest of England, and in I had been an encroachment of 70 acres 0f land, by which tive regulation, and there'. was no claim on the
the next place, to maintain' the peace of Europe. It 10,000,000 cubic feet of water had been lost. At Goeernment for the repayment of that money
was Vrance departed from that policy into which she the . time of the rebellion in 1745, a French which had been before paid Voluntarily. Now,
and England had embarked for a certain time ; and if frigate had entered the harbour of Montrose, with regard to the case of Mrs. Forbes, he
subsequent events tended to excite irritation in France, No frigate could enter the harbour now, for they had agreed in all that had been said in the praise of time
that was not a reason why England and the other been making small encroachments all round, which had most meritorious lady ; but he denied that Lieutenant
Powers should have departed from that course of policy escaped observation. Our national prosperity depended Forbes's insanity hid been occasioned by his
_sufferings..
which they euitered into—not from motives of doing on our maritime supremacy. He should wish to see all in the service. He had been a midshipman on board,
what was disageeeable to France, but from a regard to these harbours placed under public superintendence, and the. Vengeur:before NeW Orleans. It did not appesir
the interests of icslngland and the peace of Europe. But lan engineer officer appointed to every district, to take from the surgeon's books' that he had suffered any illness
the Right Hon. Baronet had not answered the charge j care that no encroachments should be made which I there. He had been promoted at the peace, and in 1822
which he brought 'against the Government, of ; would exclude one cubic feet of water from any tidal he had taken the command of a merchantman. She had
delaying for a month after they came into I river. He feared that evil effects would follow from the - been seize' by Bolivar, either at Lima or Guyaquit, and
office to ask for et ratification of the treaty. j enclosures on the banks of the Thames. He had op- Lieut. Forbes had left her. lie returned across the
He agreed with the Right Hon. 'Baronet, that the coast i posed the embankment for the new Houses of' Parlia- Isthmus of Darien, and, in, consequence, probably,
of Africa was a more important statiol: than the coast 1► ment. It had been reported that it might be done with of the unhealthiness of the climate of
,Panama,
of Cuba-and Brazil, and for this reason, that -the slave I, safety. He should like to know the opinion of those 'he had lost ' his sight. He retired to London,
ships were taken before the negroes were got on bard, who had so reported. An erroneous idea was prevalent blind but not insane, and two years afterwards his friends
wheteas, when they were captured on their arrival in `bat these embankments increased the force of the stream applied to the Admiralty to have hen admitted into the
Cnba or Brazil, all the suffering and misery had been j by narentWing it; but their object ought to be to increase • lunatic asylum at Hasler, of course, in accordance with
eneiured. What he contended was, that it, would not be 1 the body of wetter entering the harbour.—(Hear, hear.) I the regulations there in existence.. He gave the Hon.
wise ~ to withdraw the squidron from both Cuba and They ought not is allow any municipal officers and Gallant Officer great credit for his wish to assist
Brazil. He was glad to find that he had Misunderstood ito kinterfere with this subject, and if the Corporation Mrs. Forbes, who was a most deserving lady, but he
the intentions of the Government, and he_ eidte approved of London were the conservators of the river, could not hold out any hope that the Admiralty would
of their course. Now, with regard to the baracoons, the f the Lords of the Admiralty, on behalf of the Crown, grant her claims. . .
-Right I Ton. Baronet said; that, in dealing with these -were. the conservators of the Lord Mayor and the cor- Mr. P. BORT FIWICK supported *the motion.
uncivilis ed tribes on the coast of Africa, they must ob- i poration—(A laugh)—and ought to take care that they Mr. PLUMPTRE bore testimony to the high and ex-
serve the tae international laws which were consecrated inflicted no injury on the public. The Hon. Member, cellent character of Mrs. Forbes.
by the usetage of Europe, He must Say that that had concluded by moving for an address to her Majesty, that Mr. S. HERBERT could also bear testimony to the
not always: been the doctrine of the Government on she will be graciously Pleased, to appoint a Commission excellent conduct of Mrs. Forbes, and regretted that
that subject.--(Hear, bear.) In the discussion on to inquire into the past and present condition of the neither the Board of 'Admiralty nor the Government
the affairs of India in the last sessionewhen the matter several tidal harbours, ports, and creeks of the United could promise to take her case into consideration, be-
in debate was the mode in which they had conducted j Kingdom, with the view of ascertaining the state of the cause that would be tantamount to saying that the claims
themselves towards the Ameers of Sinde, it was said navigation, and the depth of water of hese harbours, would be granted. The subject had been carefully con-
that the It. tws of Europe could not be applied with rigour &c. ; whether the depth of water was greater formerly sidered, and the Admiralty had decided that they could
to such a I calf-cirilised people as the people of Sinde.— than at the present time, and whether any and what not, consistently with their duty, grant the claims of Mrs.,
(Hear, he, en) But he was glad to find that they were extent of land over which the tide flowed at any former , Forbes.
likely to d iffer much on the question of the' baracoons. period has been inclosed ; under what authority the seve- . Mr. WILLIAMS said this case was one of extreme
He thought: it would be very useful for slave-traders in 1 ral inclosures were made, the.'effects of such, inclosures ' hardship ; and if anything would justify the departure
to be made aware that it was the intention of ,of land, awl of the erection of piers, jetties, &c., from an established rule, it was such circumstances as
general
the Government to avail themselves of their power to in decreasing the depth, or in improving or injuring the had just been brought under the notice of the House.
Toot out abose nests of pirateswhich infested the differ- navigation of the several harbours, creeks, Rte. ;to call IHe would go as far to maintain economy as any one,
I Int parts a the African coast.--(Hear, hear;) Now for and' examine all general reports of civil engineers ' but he thought the strongest sticklers for prudence in
these were the points upon which the Right Hon. Ba- I and public Commissioners, relative to the construction, I the outlay of public money would be disposed to look
Toilet stated that he had unfairly accused the Govern- 1 improvement, or preservation of the several ports, har. 1 with most favourable feelings upon the present case.
merit of not acting with. sufficient energy. He was ex- j hours, creeks, and navigable waters of the United King- ! Mr. HAWES said, in such a case as this, the techni-
ceedi ntgly glad to hear from him a confirmation of the 1 dom which have been regulated by Act of Parliament ! cal rules of the service ought to be allowed to give way
statement as to the good effects arising from the distin- ; since 1800, the operations under such Acts, and whether to considerations of humanity.
rushed a drainietration of General Valdez in Cubr. I the result has been beneficial or injurious to the ' naviga- &lir C. NAPIER said it appeared to him to be the
He quite a greed with him that if the Governments of I tion of the said ports ; —also, to inquire into the nature ' most unjust thing in the world to refuse this claim. As,
Cuba and Brazil would only do their duty, the etisk of tof the powers entrusted to the Board of Admiralty, however, the Gallant Admiral (Sir G. Cockburn) seemed
suppressing e' the slave-trade would become light indeed ; : under any Acts of Parliament, for protectingethe naviga. , dispoeed to do something in this mateera-and he did not
and he tr tutted that friendly representations to those tion of the ports and harbours of the Unitedleiogdons, ; doubt his sincerity—(Hear, hear)—he hoped his other
Governments would awaken them to a sense of the duty ' and in what manner they have exercised, those powers ; Gallant Friend (Captain Pechell) would not press the
they owed, not merely to England, but to themselves 1 and whether more extensive and more:defined powers ' question to a division, as perhaps, such a course might
and the faith of the treaties into which they had en- may be requisite to enable them to Protect and to ire- I weaken the kind feeling which now he believed to pre-
tered. Tine Right Axe Baronet had dew him the I prove ate basboup of this kitildons, ' veil ite the Admiralty in reference to it.—cllear.)

After a few words from Captain GORDON, which
were inaudible in the gallery,
Sir GEORGE COCKBURN said he hid eertainlr
expressed bow liappf he shotild be if he could do any
thing for this rady, Enowing. how respectable and es-
timable she was. But, let there. be.no mistake—he did
not pledge the Government to do anything. This
should be clearly understood.
Sir C. NAPIER—Oh, very well. Then (turning to
Captain Pechell) you'll divide, of course.
Captain PECIIELL, in reply, said that the Right
Hon. and Gallant Admiral (Sir G. Cockburn) had not
brought forward one fact to weaken his case, or to dis-
prove the injustice that had been done. As to the pen-
sion, he thought it most proper to leave that part of the
question to the Board of Admiralty ; but the other
question—namely, that of arrears.---he did not think he
ought to do so, after what had just been said. Under
the advice of those around him, he would very rcluc •
tantly withdraw his motion.
The motion was then withdrawn.
Lord SEYMOUR inovel for leave to bring in a Bill to:
facilitate admission to civil and corporate offices.
Leave was given to bring in the Bill.
On the motion of. Mr. JOHN O'BRIEN,. the petition
of the Corporation of Limerick, presented on the 12th of
the present mouth, was ordered to be printed with.the
votes.

the statute ; and all they would have to consider was, ! swell mob, would it be any consolation to honest men to
whether, at the time the offence was alleged to have been • know that we are all at liberty to pick the pockets of the
committed, the party aecusrd was :I‘,al;e that was I.,cic_l,ocket. wP t-
cum:Diving an iliegal and wicked act, to the prej,itin..e
of another. In one of the cases it did not clearly ap-
pear that the stack was actually igniP.ed, and on that the
jury could not find a bill for felony, but must return one
for misdemeanour, for the attempt to.cornmit the offence
'Phe grand jury then retired.
There were no cases of interest tried during the day.

that way ? ii o, an Act 1,4 1;1, LIUf of ul-dch wk• !;i
the purpose of which is to protect fraud, can benefit
those only who will det•cind to practise fraud—upon all
others it. is art Act of painss,nrl penalties.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
INTELLIGENCE EXTRA.
LIVERPOOL JULY MEETING, 1844.
Entries for the Stakes, &c., which closed on Monday
afternoon.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
(YESTERDAY.)
UNION-HALL.
Francis Thomas Scott, a young man, was charged before
Mr. Cottingham. with ferociously riding over John Samuel
Reed, by which his life was endangered.
It appeared that on the preceding afternoon the prisoner
was observed galloping along Blackfriar's-road, and a man
named Reed, who unfortunately happened to be crossing the
road, was knocked down. The hind hoof of the horse striking
the.poor man on the side of the head, injured him in suAi a
dreadful manner, that when he was taken up, the blood was
gushing from his mouth and ears. He was conveyed to
Guy's Hospital, where but slight hopes were given of his
recovery. And this morning a certificate was sent over from
the hospital, describing that the unfortunjte man expired in
the course of the night. As a Coroner's inquest will be held
on the body, the prisoner was remanded.
Richard Creadon was charged with assaulting and wound-
ing Robert Butterworth upon the head with a pair of tongs.
The defendant went to the Three Compasses public-house,
Guildford-street, and was refused being served with liquor
owing to his being intoxicated. Irritated at the refusal the
prisoner swore he would have his revenge, and, leaving the
house, he went home, procured a pair of tongs, and returning
to the Three Compasses, struck the first man he saw coming
out a dreadful blow on the head, and it was only surprising
he had not killed him. Butterworth, the man assaulted, re-
mained insensible for upwards of an hour, but fortunately
recovered sufficiently to be enabled to attend the examination.
Mr. Corn:v.3llAm characterised it as such a murderous
assault, that instead of summary decision he should commit
the prisoner for trial.

WEDNESDAY.
The Croxteth Stakes of 15 sovs. each.
Extempore, 4 yrs—Erebus, 3 yrs—Princess Alice. 3
yrs—Aristides, 4 yrs—Doctor Husband, 3 yrs—True-
boy, 4 yrs—Robert de Gorham, 5 yrs—Knight of the
Whistle, 6 yrs—The Bishop of Romford's Cob, 4 3 rs.
Plate of 601. for Horses that never won 501.
Captain Vaughan's Winter, 4 yrs—Mr. H. Thomp-
son's b g by Hindoo, out of Sister to /Eolus, 5 yrs—Mr.
J. Owen rs Alice, 3 yrs—Mr. Meiklam's Godfrey, 3
yrs—Captain Harcourt's Sir Abstrupus, 4 yrs—Mr.
Bowes's T'Auld Squire. 3 yrs—Lord Chesterfield's Atta-
ghan, 8 yrs—Lord Eglinton's Fitzjames, 3 yrs.

The other orders of the day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned at a Quarter to One.

PARLIAMEN TAR Y DIV ISIoNS

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(Frovs the rotes and Proceeesnew-of the Ihnueof Commons.)
MUMMY. JULY 15.
STATE TRIAL (IRELAND).
Motion made, and Question put, " That a Select Com-
mittee
be appointed to inquire. in accordance with the.prayet
of the Petition presented 17th June, Into the facts connected
with the formatimi of the Special Jury in the case of ' The
Queen, at the prosecution of the Attorney-General, v. Danie
O'Connell and others :' " The House divided :
MINORITY—AYES, 73.
Archbold, Robert Ferguson, Colonel Pluraride, Captain
Bannerman, A. Forster, Matthew Power, James
Barnard. E. G. Gore, Robert Rawdon, J. D.
Bellew, R. M Hastie, Archibald Russell, Lord E.
Blake, Mare Mmes. B. Seale, Sir J. H.
Reuverie, E. P. Heathcoat, J, Seymour, Sir H.
Bowring, Dr. Hill, Lord:Marcus Sheil, R. L.
Brotherton, J. Hellman, Edward Smith, Benjamin
Browne, R.. D. Howard,. P. H. . Smith, Vei von
Browne, W. Hutt, W, Somers, J. P.
Buller, E I4ngsten, J. H. Somerville, Sir W.
Busteild, W. Macaulay, T. B. Stock, Sergeant
Carew, Hon. R. S. Mapnamara, W. Strutt, Edward
Chapman, B. Marshall, W. Tancred, Henry W
Clive, E. 13.. Mitcalfe' Henry fhornely. Thome.
Cobden, Richard Morris, David Towneley, John
Colhorne W. Ridley, Napier, Sir Charles Warburton, Henry Collett.John
.Norreys, Sir D. J. Wawn, John 'f.
Dawson, T. V. O'Brien, J. White, Henry
Denison, W. J. O'Cennell, M. J. . Williams. W.
D'Eyncourt, C. T. O'Conor Don Yorke, R. H.
Duncan, George O'Ferrab, R. More
Duncannon, Lott! Paget, F.
Ebrington, Viscount Palmerston. Vis.
Esmonde, Sir T. Pechell, Captain*
..vans, W. Philips, G. R.

It stated the defendant was discharged from the police
for intoxication, and since then another situation had been
procured for him in the Customs, which he also lost owing to
his propensity for liquor.

CLERKENWELL.
Daniel Brien, a shoemaker, residing in Brighton-street,
Cromer-street, was charged with the following outrageous
conduct :

It appeared from the evidence that at one o'clock that
morning, police-constable 151 E being on duty in Cromer-
street, heard cries of murder proceeding from Brighton-
street, and on reaching the place saw a large crowd
assembled round a house there, who were shouting" murder"
most vociferously. The constable was informed that the pri-
soner was murdering his wife; he rushed up stairs in companv
with 116 E ; they knocked at the door of an apartment and
demanded admission, but were refused, upon which they
burst it in. Immediately upon 151 E entering the room he
received a violent blow in the breast from the prisoner, whose
wife was sitting on the bed, her face being covered with
blood. She refused, however, to prosecute ,her brutal hus-
band, who was conveyed to the station-house.
The prisoner, having nothing to urge in mitigation of his
conduct, was, in default of payment of a fine of five shillings,
sent to prison for seven days.

TELLERS.
Wyse, lhomas
Stuart, Villiers

MAJORITY.—NOES, 91.
Acker', James Estcourt, T. G. B. M'Geachy. F. A.
Acland, Sir Thomas Fellowee, Edward Maxwe :I, J. P.
Adderley, C. B. • Hower, Sir James Morgan. Octavius
Arley/right, George Follett, Sir W. W. Neeld, John
Bailey,7Joseph Forbes, William Norreys, Lord
Bailey, Joseph, jun Fuller, A. E. Palmer, R.
Baillie, Colonel Gl•edstone, W. E. Patten, Wilson
Baring, Hon W. B Gordon, Hon. W. Peel, Sir Robert
Batesoti Robert. Gore, Montague . Peel, Jonathan
Bentinck, Lord G. Goulburn, Henry Plumptre, J. P.
Blackstone, W. Graham, Sir James Freed, William T.
Bookin. W. H. Grogan, E.lwars, Rashleigh, William
Horthwick, Peter Hale, R. Blagdon Round, John
Bowles, Admiral Hamilto•,, Lord C. Sllirley, Evelyn J.
Brisco, M. Harris, E A. J. Smith, T B. C.
Brooke, Sir A. S. Hayes, Srl E. Smyth, Sir G. II
11, ages, W. H. L. Henley, J. W. Somerset. Lord G.
Buck, L. W. , Herbert, Hon. S. Stanley, Lord
Buckley, Edmund Hinde, J. H. Sutton, Hon. H. Id
Bunbury, Thomas Hogg, J. W. • Taylor, E.
Cardwell, Edward Hope, Chacle' Tennent, J. E.
Chetwode, Sir John • Hotham, Lord Thesiger, F.
Christopher, R. A. Hussey,Ambrose Thompson, Ald.
Clerk, Sir George Hussey, Thomas Trollepe, Sir John
Cochrane, Ales. Jolliffe, Sir W. Vernon, G. H.
Cole, Hon. HA. Jones, Captain Vesey, Thomas
Darby, George Ii natchbull, Sir E. Waddington, H. S,
Dickinson, F. H. Knight, H. G.
Douglas, J. D S. Knight, F. Winn
Eliot, Lord Lincoln, Earl of
Entwisle, William Lockhart, William
Escott, Bickhani Lygon, Hon. Gen.

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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
I'llOK THE EVENING PAPERS GE YESTERDAY-
GLOBE.—The proceedings on the writ of error, the
result of which is yet in suspense, necessarily preju-
diced-the effect of Mr. Wyse's motion of last night. The
late period of the session also injured the debate.
Every one is now thinking only of getting through
business ; and oratory is voted a bore by common con-
sent. The division shows that only 164 Members out
of 658 could be got together on this important question.
It is no fault of Mr. Wyse's that the question has not
been brought forward earlier. Driven by the Govern-
ment to the very fag-end of the session, be has judged
rightly in not letting the session close without making
this motion, under whatever disadvantages of time and
circumstances. In the refusal of the motion Ireland
has one more wrong to complain of—one more article
of impeachment against the present Government.
Mr. Wyse moved-for a Committee to inquire into
the facts connected: with the formation of the special
jury in the State Trial in Dublin. Lord Eliot says,
" You must make citt fraud before we can grant the
Committee." But would not negligence in public offi-
cers be sufficient to warrant, aye, to demand inquiry ?
And if fraud were already proved, or negligence either,
what need would there be, my Lord Eliot, for
inquiry at all ? All -'that Mr. Wyse, or any
other Member, can be expected, or is ever likely
to be able to do, is to make out a case of strong suspi-
cion. Such a case is sufficient ground for a Committee ;
nay, makes it the duty of the Government to grant the
Committee. And it should be the desire of the Govern-
ment, no less than it is their duty, to clear up strong
suspicion on such a matter, if it can be cleared up, by
the inquiry of a Committee of the House of Com-
mons. As it is, it looks as if they dreaded inquiry,
shrunk from an expected substantiation of Mr. Wyse's
tharges, and were determined at all hazards to shield
persons who may have been used as instruments
for securing the conviction of the traversers. If
Government are determined to oppose a motion,
reasons can always be put into sounding words, which
are sure to elicit "hear, hear !". in sufficient numbers
from the claqueurs of the Government benches ; but it
does not follow that the reasons are sound, or that they
wiil bear the test of investigation. A motion for a Com-
mittee at this late period of the session is called a form ;
and it is- assumed' that the'deinand for a Committee is
only an excuse, and a debate upon the prosecution .the
real object.. If the Government chose, there would be
nothing to prevent .a*,Cominittee',l3eing now appointed,
and conducting its investigations to a close L-just as the
Government, when they cheap it, fOund no 'difficulty in
appointing' the .Post-dffiee CoMmittee after'the beginning
of the end of the session. ' The Goveinnient that chooses
to treat Air: Wyse'i motion as a form, itself makes it so.
Every one 'who ',tea& the apeeehea of Mi. Wyse and
Mr. qliforgan John O'Connell, 'and Lord Mt's and the
Sulicitor-Genetal's replies, mkist say that a case for in-
quiry was made out by the first two gentlemen, and
that the replies left the 'Case unimpaired. Take only
these two .facts out or several. Before the jury-lists
are. snades up, Mr. M•Graths the rdgistrar, allows Con-
servative solicitors to compare all their lists with the
office lists; but refu.es similar permission, except with a
swaii portion of the lists, to the solicitors for the tra-
versers ; and Mr. M‘Grath is found fault with by the
Recorder for baying allowed the office lists to be seen
a; alt. Now, we say, take these two facts only ; there
are many stronger ones adduced. But do not these two
fasts alone prove that there has been breach of duty by
Mr. M'Grath, and that the traversers have not had the
same advantage as parties in the opposite interest ?
And what answer is it to a breach of duty on Mr.
Nl‘Gratli's part to say, that Mr. M'Grath is a Ca:holic,
and therefore was unlikely to do anything to injure the
interest of the traversers? That does not follow mY
Lord. And what, in the name of everything sober, has the
Solicitor-General's string of pompous inflations about
the whole trial, the Attorney-Gen4ral's demeanour, the
Judge's charge; the writ of error, and everything else.
that a mind which seems to have no perception of what
i‘s4e,slee,vseinntoctioounldfobr nrainginigu
into. a
the
eech,fotrriio
o:idatown oittif
the
jury list ? The Government rejected the motion. They
have managed to keep a sufficient number of their
supporters :in town to reject it by a majority
of eighteen. Much good may this great majority do
them ! The session will close without one single ma-
nifestation from the Government that they earnestly de-
sire to do justice to Ireland, or to conciliate her affec-
tion. To have granted Mr. Wyse his Committee might
have done some little towards appeasing discontent with
greater wrongs—with the Protestant Church, into
whose revenues Government has refused inquiry, and
with the insult of the abandoned Registration Bill. But
they persist in opposing the feelings of Ireland in all
matters great and small; matters of permanent and of
temporary grievance alike. Though accident may delay
the. retribution, sooner or later it must come.
STANDAIia—The Commons' amendments to "the
Dissenters' Chapels Bill " were last night agreed to in
the, House of Lords, after a long debate. The first cir-
cumstance that will strike the reader as remarkable in
this affair, is the extraordinary muster of votes in favour
of a measure which, if not very limited and incon-
siderable in its operation, mud be extensively mis-
chievous. The number of votes given last night--
namely, 243," was, we believe, much the greatest
in the session, no less than 100 Peers and Prelates
(alas ! that we must include some of the latter),
attending to support a Bill which was either very insig-
nificant or very wicked. We are wholly, at a loss to
account for the attendance. Private canvassing in
such a ease may do much, and private canvassing was
active, but private canvassing can hardly account
for such a muster as 202 Peers. The whole mat-
ter contrasts unpleasantly • with the zeal displayed
by the majority in the - case of the St. Asaph's
Bill. Orthodox Dissenters and Churchmen, who
think that the vital truths of Christianity are the highest
of all considerations, will be too much disposed to infer
that the temporalities in the St. Asaph's case made all
the difference in the judgment of the House of Lords'
majority. The form in which the motion came
before the House, no doubt, gave.'. considerable
advantage to those who supported it, for the
amendments of the House of Commons were pretty
generally mitigations of the bad 'IL

MUIR&
Young, John
Pringle, A.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT, July 16.

IN RE TITOMAs lIENRY HORATIO CAM'.
The insolvent in this case was a well-known character on
the turf, having been mixed tip in most of the horse-racing
transactions which have lately attracted so much unenviable
notoriety. The insolvent's name had also been before the
public as " Captain Canty," in connection with the late ar-
rests by the police in their simultaneous attacks upon the
gambling-houses at the West-end. He described himself in
his schedule as having been•a lieutenant in the Bourbon Re-
giment of Chasseurs, hiscommission in which he had sold out.
In the year 1828 he became bankrupt, but succeeded in get-
sing his certificate, and in 1839 he, was discharged from this
Court as an insolvent, having paid a dividend amounting
to only I Id. in the pound. Since that time he had been
largely mixed up in accommodation bills and gambling trans-
actions with Lord Huntingtower, Colonel Copeland, and Sir
Robert Gill, and many other well-known characters in the
play and sporting world. The debts in his schedule were
very large, amounting. to upwards of 14,500/., - all
of which were contracted since the year 1841,
and the names of nearly 150 creditors appeared
on the face of his schedule. All, that was stated to be avail-
able for his creditors were debts amounting on the whole to
about 5,6001, every one of which were described as " bad."
His schedule also stated that he had won at play from Sir
Robert Gill 1,9481., for which he brought an action against
Sir Robert, but was non-suited. The hearing excited much,
interest amongst the members of the play and sporting
world, many of whom were in court.
The insolvent's petition was opposed by Mr. Nicholl's on
behalf of Messrs. Houlditch, the well-known coach .makers
of Long-acre, and was supported by Messrs. Cooke and Wood-
ruffe.

•
Mr. NICHOLLS subjeaed the insolvent to a longand search-
ing examination which occupied the early sitting of the
court. In his examination, the, latter stated that he had
been indicted for perjury at the Old Bailey soon after his last
insolvency, when a true bill was found -against him at the
instance of Messrs. Hamar and Arnold. He had given those
persons since that time promissory notes to the amount of
nearly 1,0001., but he denied that it was for quashing the
criminal proceedings against him. He had taken large mines
in North Wales from a person named Bird, but being unable
to 4vork them effectively,•,the Messrs. • Houlditch advanced
2,500/. for machinery, &c., and then at the rate of 20/. a week
for current expenses. He had known Lord Huntingtower,
with whom he had had many bill and play transactions, and
he partly attributed his insolvency to the large law costs to
-which he was subjected in consequence of actions brought for
recovery of
of sporting bets.
then adjourned a short time for refreshment.
the
There C
The Court having resumed, the examination of the
insolvent was proceeded with. He stated his belief, that
if the mines in Wales were prop4-rly worked, they would
realise a profit of 500/. per month ; indeed, he was not
certain but it might realise as many thousands P he
were allowed to work it under favourable circumstances.
He sold his commission in the Royal Bourbon Regiment
5501. in January last; and he had expended this sum
in various ways, but chiefly in defraying law expenses.
The insolvent's son, who had tended the mines, both
for his father and the Messrs. Houlditch, was next exa-
mined at some length, bit no material point was elicited
in his evidence.

Mr. Commissioner LAW said he could not think of al-
lowing the case to proceed further in the present imperfect
state of the schedule. He should therefore order it to be
adjourned, to compel the insolvent to tile •an account of
the disposition of the sum received on account of the
commission, and also to serve notice upon several credi-
tors whose names had been omitted from the schedule.
The case was accordingly adjourned for a fortnight.

SUMMER ASSIZES.
HOME ClRCUlT—Chelmsford, July 16.
The commission for the county of Essex was opened
on Monday by Mr. Baron Gurney. The calendar is
heavy, and some of the offences are of a very serious
character, there being no less than eight charge of arson,
and in five of the cases the respective ages of the =-
eused are 16, 9, 11, 12, and 8 years. There is also a•
charge of child murder, and two cases of manslaughter.
'
On the civil side thirteen . causes were entered, three of
which were special jury cases.
The business of the assize commenced this morning at
ten o'clock, Mr. Baron Gurney sitting on the Civil Side,
and Mr. Baron Parke in the Crown Court. On the
Civil Side the whole day was occupied in disposing of
an action of trespass, the, details of which were of no
public interest.
(Before Mr. Baron PARKE.)
His Lordship in charging the Grand Jury said, he was
sorry to observe that notwithstanding the numerous
gaol deliveries in the county, and the operation of the
Central Criminal Court, there were so many prisoners
for trial at the present assizes, and still more to see the
magnitude of the offences with which a great many of
them were charged. There were several cases affecting
the lives of the accused, and, but for the recent altera-
tions of the law and the amelioration of the punishment
_formerly inflicted, many others would have been in the
same position. The most serious case appeared to be a
charge of child murder, and in this case it appeared by
the depositions that the usual difficuly in cases of
this description,
namely, . whether the infant was
born alive or not would not, arise, inasmuch as it would
b 6 shown that it was three weeks old at the time it was
destroyed, and he apprehended that if the facts should"
be proved, as they appeared upon the depositions, it
would be their painful duty to find a bill for the murder.