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London, England, 1850-06-15 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURD AY EVENING, JUNE 15, 1850.

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los 'red, he thought it was poifec,ly legitimate for
kile who hal opposed the of 1847 to come f•irward
.qurge their objections to the system. In doing to he
4t that they were guilty cf no breach of contraet, but
t\b'l assisted in an honourable compromise —(dear,,ir,
.) In the county which he represented there were
t,„
who were altogether opposed to the present lee,
who were yet willing to meet the operatives h., if way,
ti t° ail in obt pining the compromise afferded by the
rearl.eveu t Bill. He knew that many of the most enlightened
believed it to be their interest to accept this
V,t,,°elise. In that view he concurred. He believed
1/4 that it would be beneficial to the masters, and he
111,4 therefore vote in favour of the Bill.—(Hear.)
'"' ANST
ktd l• EY said, the Hon. Member who had just
illic,°we had contended that no pledge had been given
%rt. oleeratives in 1847, because the cotton lords of
Lath Lancashire had not been parties to the transac-
Ik4 But would any one pretend that no pledge had
given by the House to the operatives, who, on their
siosurrendered a principle, the agitation of which
tt'ki`' have been sufficient to rend asunder the whole
N'ork of society? Would any one, then, say that
F were not entitled to the benefit of the Noble Lord's
e:titireent? He could not help expressing much sur-
tehat the course taken in this atter by the Ministers
4tbc Crown, and t
who bad advised by the Noble Lord the Member for
Ite the operatives to accept the mea-
Othat Noble Lord who told the country that he
li,lted the Bill as an instalment, thus exciting the po-
i;lea of the great manufacturing counties, keeping
14: their discontent, and bringing them back to that
to agitation from which they were but just reco-
-41;g• As to the whole of the conduct pursued with
,weer
to this measure, however low his opinion of its
,we'tir might be, his opinion of its policy was much
r: he should, therefore, give his hearty support to
e itri' COCHRANE rose to inquire if the Right Hon.
iqehlan meant to deny that the amendment would
4151`9 an alteration, but merely an explanatory addi-
,,,l For his own part he must consider it an alters-
ider the law, and, therefore, a breach of the promise
lieto the factory operatives. It was said that to this
they hail a concurrence of the manufacturers, but
t
40 wanted was a concurrence of the operatives.
sus". Member for North Lancashire had told the
It', that he was present at an interview which a de-
-1 "tion the operatives were admitted to with the
c Secretary, and that a very good understanding
M°ll that occasion been established; but it was not
alone that he required. The House of Commons
iiratered into an engagement with the operatives; the
before them was a departure from that, and pro
Cc:: a violation of their engagement. If the Right
i.sG-entleman took the view of this question which
eli'Posed him to take, then he must say that that
V, be differing very much from what other Hon.
Sit the
of that House thought; he did hope, however,
rie House would carry out to the full extent the
'use which they had made and the engagement they
Sr4ertteed into with the operatives.
r CRAWFORD stated that in his communica-
ith the operatives of Rochdale he had been called
4,°Y them to give his vote in favour of maintaining
li[lleciple of the measure of 1847—t0 maintain that
illy integrity. He held in his possession the names of
°Prietors of mills who were supporters of the 10
system, and in thus laying before the House his
cPinions in favour of the amendment he felt that he
llt,ving expression to the sentiments not only of the
81ves es but of the millowners also. In legislating
question of this nature the House was bound to
1t the opinions of the working classes, and to accede
4ir reasonable desires.
't; GREENALL said that he felt more difficulty in
leecrse which he had resolved to pursue in conse-
he Of what had fallen from the Hon. Member for
Q 414, aneashire. Upon' the present occasion be (Mr.
all) bad no choice open to him. He was in almost
lkeetionaunication with the operative classes upon the
and it would be next to impossible for any one
eyesimate the intense int.rest with which they re-
tilet' this question. Their feelings were alive and strong
aact subject. The measure of 1847 was one which they
Ahriuggl,d all their lives to obtain, and they boat it by
halt of theirs ; it evaded their grasp by a mere Par-
''sktirel blunder. It was, at all events, his deter-
-Ist ',lee not to let the working man be able to say
had not kept faith with him. As to children,
ti gold be great sufferers by the proposed change,
said thus much he trusted that he had fairly
tide ere the House the grounds of the vote that he in-
qui to give.
A,Ard S. RUSSELL said, that before the House pro-
to divide upon the amendment of the Noble Lord
Itl4 i!nBioU3 to state the grounds upon
Theowhih he
support his Right Hon. Friend. advo•
Ma;`the amendment had argued as if the Act of 1847
tlee`t'sfactorily provided for the protection of the ope-
Itlee,Blatid that the millowners alone now came forward
•'‘.'"eti an alteration of that Act. To this he could
Vent: lie was favourable to the measure of 1847,
!liejll he considered that it would be productive of great
Isteitges to the working classes, that they would, in
lihellence of its provisions, have more time than they
t;tislY enjoyed for rest, for domestic duties, or for
it°frcraent in their own families; but, in supporting
S:asnre, he had not at the time a full view of the
-I",e' consequences which such a measure might pro-
tpg did not foresee that it would have the effect of
llte4aY with one-sixth of the manufacturing power
IL country; that it would be a diminution of wealth
cc Very great amount; but he still retained
Otan that the Act of 1847 was based upon sound
lhres He had no desire to see it repealed,
cr his own part, being a supporter of it, he had
Nvi` „„cite willing to leave it undisturbed during the
'rtt" session of Parliament ; to subject it to the inter-
r°,,,a it had received, and leave it to the courts of
‘), out be would now ask who had proposed to alter
ais it those who were favourable to twelve hours, or
N, t"se who might be content with eleven hours—by
t4t‘,l'a,3 the change recommended ?—by none other
1
Noble Lord the Member for Bath, who now
,7i4,4ward as the advocate of the young persons, de-
fer 2 thie it had become necessary to call for the in-
Itlth,'cce of Parliament. If he were bound to pro-
ala opinion upon that proceeding, he must look
qe,' it really did, and not speak as if it decided the
question. That was not the case—it did not de-
li e° whole question. The Bill of 1847 and the Bill of
,Illtircttitined no such provision as that which limited
,th catasCribed the working periods of the day within
‘'e,°„ 111's of six o'clock in the morning to six o'clock in
Under the Acts of 1847 and 1848 labour
cornmence at half-paht five, or be made
‘,Y ttllina eat half-past eight o'clock ; and at
;,:i4tt lel° within those fifteen hours the ten
cf labour might be exacted ; therefore
h'eteet proposition was a different matter,
it% thc felt himself entitled to deny that in thiis
t„stOra was the least breach of faith, and to deny
As't,_ the proposition of the Noble Lord the Member
tieleester could be regarded as a carrying into
:'ithe Provisions which Parliament had made. Fur-
ptl:re was what appeared to him a forced construe-
"epon the Act—it was construed to mean that
thto came to work at any hour whatever were
ois-ou!tve commenced their labour at 5 o'clock. It
21:1 the power of the millowners to exact the
l:rsutki, quantity of labour at any time between the
,'l,tlsel,•nalt•past 5 o'clock in the morning and half-past
in the evening—there was no doubt—there
eate el no doubt—whatever upon that point, and if
ttisted in that respect no uncertainty, it was ob-
t: •4t 801110 alteration in the law must be made-
-44 restrictions must be imposed, in order that
to 114 ts should be conferred; and if being called
111,,,,,cgialate with the Noble Lord the Member for
)ttio's not an alteration—if putting on a fresh re-
)t,,t4 to the effect of three hours affecting the em-
:tioiltit of young persons, and in effect two hours
:tlotai,,lnbour being given in the whole week—if that
twit amount to a very marked alteration, he
:littithnOt understand what was meant. As
et., ell Proposed to Parliament to depart from the
4;),lterito 1844 and 1847, on the whole the question
EuN 0." Itself into this—would the change be a benefit
V44lPerative classes?—and to that he might say they
4letttsatimeny of the Hon. Member for Stockport,
t4tvll4riailled no doubt that upon the whole it would
'lst kidvantage to that class. If the millowners on the
.1i,t411„, were contending for a twelve hours or an
ytei:cre Bill, was it not consistent with the wisdom
'e,,;asteiist so to legislate as that benefit might be
teil'en the operative by a measure that should be
to-the millowners? If such advantages could
ytin'etde he thought it would have the effect of
4:etheattWay many objections to the Bill, and he must
t'ihti.,`"" could not perceive any force in the objection
Sl ktiAlse 'they passed the Bill of 1847, they were
i lb '
th:riTt,.to pass the Bill then before them. That
rte blouse was then called upon by the amend-
'lt're):ll was not a mere correction of a technical
tp 4 "'fined in the Bill of 1847 or the Bill of 1844,
t 6
e NI. contrary, a new enactment, more restrictive
,litry,it to produce fresh agitation throughout the
N!h,
stilaving been then in favour of the measure of
fit,lop Leought that the House ought to adopt the pro-
k,ltle her 'his Right Hon. Friend; and he urged this
Nr_uljyllr,al2. the House with the' more confidence as he
'1,1;9 i Prepared to maintain that no compact had been
ttlit;i%clito by Parliament when they passed the Bill of
ape there was no feeling among the operatives
4t 1.14 agreement had ever been concluded. The
tl!,:„4ll4lPheci in this matter by the Noble Lord the
,N Or cq.`3l'' Bath offered the best possible testimony in
'ts:a th, the proposition of his Right Hon. Friend.
N,14 °le clauses were proposed the Noble Lord ad-
lo4lry ftliblished letter to the operatives of this
Ille,,,byv,ceminending them to accept the propositions
tiNit,,cs-s,"4lc Right lion. Friend. When the House re-
frn that that recommendation and advice pro-
t,^ a Man who had shown the utmost zeal in
ktOtitli' orthe working classes—who had studied so
tt1,t,1ti,),17 their interests—who had devoted such great
lip'ette t 4 their claims—whose character and influence
1:a it •
, Impossible for them, being thus called
101" cifine'ulae or reject the counsel which that Noble
41,Zy ,e4,ld to them, they must see that his tes-
,Ne 'et °of the highest value. The Honourable
e • le ,for
ee' North Lancashire had told the House
tpttprateeie intelligent operatives were favourable
11,4t9t1t3siPort of his Right Hon. Friend. [lt was
t°arnewsy the table by Mr. W. Patten that he
thktahl4,l"T't the'great body of the operatives were fa-
te,:hre. :lit] If that were the case, 'then he thought
NAtc(line'`eund was good which Parliament had for
with the Bill, and not adopting the amend-
itPposed change did very materially amend
hap cell', was confessedly a useful proposition, and
N,` it r,8411? advantage to two parties. On the one
qt, cee trltted the labourer to a period of the day
e'elock and six, instead of from half-past
4eNtl)e et° half-past eight. On the other hand, it
v'eata tbi:"Yer an advantage of two hours a week;
but b erefore a fairness and equity in the pro-
-1`)t) bee f Y the proposition of the Noble Lord the
s or rt_,
41411,1A1, ,•'‘-'icheater they were to have new legisia-
'ett the it enlB47,tire on one side; not carrying
of lycont
ained no clauses

sirni:ar to his Right Hon. Friend's proposal, but pro-
plain:l, fresh reAtrictioni,, and giving no ailvantuge to the
othi.t. side of the qiiostiori. He must say that he the,ught
that the proposal of the N.ilA Lord kJppos:.ite, if it were
carri ed, w mild be the signal for a demand that ih.iy h o uld
have legislation at all, bat rest satisfied with the Act
of ISt-7, as interpreted by the courts of la.v, there-
by inflmting, a considerable disadvantage upon the
orrative. For his owe part, not agreeing. in the vote
of the Hon. Member for Stockport—not a,rteing in the
conclusions to which he had come, he yet funded his
vote very much on the reasons to which that Honourab e
Member attached weight. That Honourable Member
said, here was a Bill which in his opinion would confer
great benefit upon those classes in whose favour it was
proposed to legislate. If the Bill conferred great bene-
fit upon those classes,—if at the same time it was
acceptable to those who had hitherto contended against
a limitation of labour, he must say tnat they had now a
favourable opportunity of settling this question. If,
however, they adopted the amendment of the Noble
Lord it would be vain to hope for any settlement; on
the contrary, they must expect that they would lead to
great agitation, which, doubtless, would be a great mis-
fortune. With respect to a large proportion of the
mills which were working only 114 hours, the Bill would
make no great difference; but as regarded the shifts and
relays it would entirely put an end to them. The mea-
sure would, therefore, on the whole, be a great advan-
tage to the operatives,. and on that ground he should
oppose the amendment of the Noble Lord.—(Hear.)
Mr. ELLIOT observed that the case of the mills
worked by water ought to be taken into account ; they
frequently lost time for want of motive power.
Mr. BROTHERTON said he had always been
favourable to any measures for ameliorating the condi-
tion of the operatives, and he conscientiously believed
that this Bill would be highly to their advantage. 'lhe
rejection of the Bill would carry dismay to the working
classes, while it would give extreme satisfaction to those
employers who had availed themselves of the range of
fifteen hours to evade the operation of this Bill. It was
said that the House were bound to carry out the Bill of
1847. But they were contented with the name of the
thing rather than the reality? The present was to all
intents and purposes a Ten Hours Bill. If the House
rejected it, the relay system would become more general
than at present, and the operatives would be some time
before they got an enactment that would be beneficial to
them, He should give the present measure his hearty
support, and he should therefore vote against the
amendment.

Mr. EDWARDS said that Hon. Members upon the
Treasury bench appeared to be labouring under an erro-
neous impression upon one point. In the town which he
represented (Halifax) a petition had been sent up from
every mill, without one exception, but not a single peti-
tion had easanated from the manufacturers themselves.
Before he sat down, he wished to say that a strong de-
sire existed on his (the Opposition) side of the House to
hear the Hon. Member for Manchester (Mr. Bright) on
this subject.—(Cheers.) He could not understand how it
happened that the Hon. Member, who was the organ of
a very great party, and who was generally supposed to
be at the bottom of the whole agitation, should sit still,
and not give the House the benefit of his ideas on this
subject.—(Cheers and laughter, and cries of " Divide.")
Mr. DISR AELI hoped that the House, notwithstand-
ing their anxiety to divide, would permit him to offer a
few observations to explain the vote he was about to
give, since, although he had been in Parliament more
years than he cared to recollect,and had registered his vote
on this subject, he had never presumed to offer his opi-
nion to the House upon it. He had listened with great in-
terest to the discussion which had taken place. The ques-
tion which the House was called upon to decide was
ono of a serious though a very simple character. More
than 30 years ego, as the Hon. Member for Stockport
had reminded them, the working classes of the north of
England originated an agitation in favour of those prin-
ciples which the Legislature recognized as law by the
Act of 1847. In looking upon that event with the ad-
vantage of experiecce, and taking that general view
which had properly characterized the discussion upon
this subject, he perceived in that movement of 30 years
ago whet might be fairly described as the action of an
over-worked population.—(Hear, hear.) And it was a
subject of congratulation that in this country a large
portion of the community, finding themselves in such a
position, had no recourse to those acts and to those
measures which generally distinguished a people under
such circumstances. They did not attempt to find re-
lief in conspiracy and in combination; but, 30 years ago,
when the means of education of the working classes
ss ere more limited than at present—when the political
instruction that pervaded that order of the community
was much less in amount than at present, they still had
confidence in the Parliament of the country, and in
appealing to that Parliament they sought relief from
the sufferings they experienced. Well, the 30 years
elapsed, and it was not until the year 1847 that the
Legislature recognised the authenticity of those convic-
tions, and that by a legislative enactment they had
sanctioned the instincts of a working community. He
did not feel surprised that so great an interval had oc-
curred between the expression of the people and the
act of the Legislature. At all times to legislate with
respect to labour—apparently to offer any check to the
power of production, were subjects which might well
appal statesmen and senates. He could very easily un-
derstand that it was only after much deliberation, after
sagacious hesitation, after a due acquaintance with the
wants and feelings of the people, that the Parliament of
this country had sanctioned the principle that the work-
ing people had wished to be formed into law. They all
recollected the predictions and prophecies with respect
to that bold and rash Act, as it was deemed. It was
acknowledged to be a great legislative experiment—had
it feiled?—(Cheers.) One would suppose that, although
the Legislature were justified in taking that course—
a difficult, perilous, but perhaps a necessary and a
politic course—yet that the experience of the time
that had since elapsed had been such as to convince
the country and the House that they had committed
a great error in passing the Act of 1847. It was
strange that at a moment when they were told the
class with which these working men were connected
were more prosperous than they were ever known
to be,—that at a time when materially and morally that
working population were more improved than they had
ever been before,—that the Legislature should be called
upon to alter and to revise that legislation, and to ac-
knowledge that the law was a mistake, when it was ad-
mitted that the consequences had been most successful.—
(Hear, hear.) There was one consideration connected
with this subject which the House must not forget.
Long as was the period during which the agitation had
proceeded which heralded this law, notwithstanding that
it had passed during a period in which political excite-
ment and party passion periodically excited the greatest
possible feeling, yet, he would not say by a lucky acci-
dent, but rather by a happy providence, the factory
question had never been indissolubly connected with
the fortunes of any political party; and when, an 1847,
that important statute was passed, it was proposed by
a distinguished Member upon the Opposition side of
the House, it was cordially supported by the Prime
Minister of the country, in oposition to the
opinion of some of his own supporters; and
it was passed,—not, indeed, with the consent of
all parties, but in a manner that convinced the
people that it was the result of the impassioned
deliberations of Parliament, and not the consequence of

anyi party combination. The operation of the Act hav-
ing been tested by experience, and having been conco-
mitant with the prosperity of the manufacturing districts
—not only with the maintenance but the increase
of ;wages of the labouring classes—not only with
the maintenance but the increase of exports of
commodities to those market; in which they
were told the manufacturers would be materially injured
by this law—without the colour of a case against the
a. tion and consequences of this law, the House, by a
an tinge combination of circumstances, found themselves
suddenly called upon to give a verdict upon its character.
Wbat he wanted to know was the reason why, after so
prOlonged an agitation in the country, after so elaborate
and calm a discussion in that House, the Parliament
that passed the Ten Hours Act should be called upon
virtually to repeal and abrogate it?—(Cheers.) If, in-
deo, the consequences that had been predicted had oc-
curred be could understand their present position. If
the Members for Manchester and the great towns of the
north had come forward and told them that their mills
were stopped because they could no longer export
to these foreign markets—if they could state
that the working classes were remunerated for their toil
by 'diminished wages, if they could give the House a
gloomy picture of the state of the society with which
they mixed, and of which many of them were the
leaders, then he could understand that the House,
not hastily, precipitately, or without a cause, pro-
ceeding to repeal the Act cf 1847, should yet seriousiy,
calmly, and searchingly examine these complaints and
inveetig'tte their causes, and if they considered that this
law was the cause of those adversities, that they should
be prepared and not ashamed to repeal the Act which
they had passed.—(Hear.) The Prime Minister would
only be doing his duty it he bad come forward and con-
fessed that error of judgment; because in 1847 he had
lent the high sanction of his justly great name to the
paSsing of that law. But, so far from this, night after
night, and whenever a fitting opportunity happened, they
were informed by Hon. Members connected with the
industrious classes—more particularly affected by this
measure—that the induetry of the North was never
so flaurishing.—(•o Hear, bear," from Mr. Macgregor.)
He observed that an Hon. Member called out " Hear,
hear," who had not voted for the Ten Hours Bill dur-
ing the present session, but who did vote for it on a
former occasion.—(Cheers and laughter.) These Hon.
Gentlemen assured gentlemen sitting around him that
the labouring population were in the eujoyment of a
higher rate of wages, and that they had a greater com-
mand over the necessaries of life than at any former
period.—(Hear, hear.) Were not these tests of manu-
facturing prosperity, so many proofs of the wisdom of
the Legislature? These were your own accounts of
your good fortune, and with this result of the working
of the Bill, why did they ask the Legislature to repeal
the Bill? They did not come forward boldly, and ask
the House to repeal the Bill.—(Cheers.) They could
not tell the House that the working classes were impo-
verished and discontented. It was not upon a groud
co broad, upon a plea so clear, that they asked the
House virtually to repeal the law; it was because they
had taken advantage of a nisi Arius exception to a
statute.—(Cheers.) They were about to legislate upon
what should influence the fruits of a great industry, and
the reward of a great working community; and, instead
of coming forward upon an intelligible principle, they
took advantage of a flaw in the Act of Parliament and
were about to destroy the result of a 30 years' agitation,
sanctioned by an Act of Parliament, ratified by the con-
currence of all the great parties of the state, and sealed
with the approbation of the Prime Minister. They were
about to refuse the people of this country the conse-
quences of all that agitation and the legislation that had
billowed it, not upon the merits of the case, but by arts
that an attorney would despise.—(Cheers.) It was
stated by the Noble Lord (J. Russell) that the Noble
Lord the Member for Bath (Lord Ashley) wished the

Honie to disturb the arrangement of 1847. But
tisat w a mistake. The Noble Lord did not
with the ilouse to interrere with this Act of 1847,
xeept to remedy the errors of the Act of 1844.
What the factory operatives looked upon as sacred
was the Act of 1847. He stripped the question of
ail this splitting of bec,-tnse the woritinz clisse3
itaagineci, whoa they had gained the Act of 1847, that
they had virtually gained a restriction of their labour to
10.1 hours a day Bar, then they were told, that in con-
sequence of ihe Act of 1844 they were to be deprived of
the fruits of all this labour. This was a mystification
which they could not comprehend. If the House told
them that they were to be deprived of the fruits of the
Act of 1847 by reason of the Ist of 1844, the Legisla-
tore would not satisfy their reason, and would lose all
hold upon the allegiance of their Learts.—(Hear, hear.)
He objected to the position of the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government. He thought the House had
nothing to do with the economical considerations of this
question. They had decided that already. The ques-
tion had been discussed both within and without the
walls of Parliament. The result might be erroneous,
but his opinion was that the House ought not
again to enter upon the domain of argument
upon that subject. It was not a question whether
they should check the power of production. It was a
moral and not an economical question that they
were called upon to discuss to-aight. Ho agreed with
one Hon. Gentleman who had addressed the House that
what was concerned was the honour of the Parliament
of England. He implored the House well to consider
what was contained in these momentous words. If it
was the greatest calamity that could occur to an indi-
vidual to encounter a slur upon his faith, if in the me-
rited consciousness of such an imputation his energy
withered, and his influence vanished, did they think that
the same fearful consequences were not attendant upon
a Parliament that might be perfidious or a nation that
might be treacherous ?—(Hear, hear.) Let them de-
peud upon it, the voice of outraged faith was no respecter
of persons. Its cry would be beard everywhere ; it
could not be stifled; it was a tone that would reach even
senates and thrones.—(Hear.) They had always ac-
knowledged that the most important elements of Go-
vernment were its moral influences, and the reason why
the Government of this country was so powerful was
that these influences had ever been predominant. What
they had to decide that night was, whether they
would retain that fountain of security—(Hear, hear)
—and whether they thought they could deal
with millions of persons, except upon the principles of
justice, benevolence, and truth.—(Hear, hear.) He
asked whether they, the House of Commons, who were
so prompt on all occasions to maintain the faith of the
public creditor at all costs, and to vindicate the national
honour, with foreign nrtions at all hazards, were pre.
pared, by opposing the motion of his Noble Friend the
Member for Colchester, to make an exception in the
brightness of their course; and, above all, he asked if
they were prepared to make an exception against the
trusting and trustworthy working classes of the commu-
nity ?—(Cneers.) He denied the right of the House of
Commons, after they had in 1847, without any of the
difficulties arising from party combinations that some-
times intervened, come to a conclusion on the question
that gave universal satisfaction to the working classes—
he denied the right of that House, with a fickleness and
a caprice that no language could express or adequately
stigmatise' to come forward now and say that they then
came to a hasty conclusion, and that they were not pre-
pared to maintain their faith with the people of this
country.—(Cheers.)
The House then divided, when the numbers were—
For Lord J. Manners' amendment... 142
Against it ... 181
Majority ... ...•--39
The amendment was accordingly rejected..
METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL.

The House went into Committee on this Bill.
Mr. HODGES moved a clause in substitution of
clause 64, for the purpose of preventing the assessment
of lands taken for burial-grounds under the present Act
at a higher rate than that at which they were previously
rated to county, parochial, and other local rates.
Sir G. GREY did not oppose the motion, and the
clause was accordingly substituted.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to.
Mr. LACY moved the addition of clauses empowering
the Board of Health to enter into contracts with Railway
companies for the conveyance of funerals.
Lord D. STUART would take this opportunity of
asking what were the intentions of the Government with
respect to the transit of corpses?
Sir G. GREY said the carriage would be included in
the contract made with the undertaker. The mode of
transit, whether by railway or water, would, of course,
depend on circumstances.
Mr. D'EYNCOURT asked where the first cemetery
was to be, and whether there were to be several ?
Sir G. GREY said no decision had us yet been come
to as to the locality—that it would depend upon the
decision of the board when constituted. Of course it
would be impossible to have only one cemetery for the
whole metropolis.
The clauses were then agreed to.
Mr. HODGES moved a clause providing that the
Board of Health should make fair and reasonable com-
pensation to all owners and occupiers of land adjacent
to the lands taken for the purposes of the Act, upon
application being made by such owner or occupier.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL opposed the insertion
f the clause, as it would empower any owner or occu-
pier at almost any distance to make claims for compen-
sation upon the board.
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
For ... 19

Against ... 180
Majority ... —l6l
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL then moved the fol-
lowing clause:—" And be it enacted, that the salary of
the additional member of such board, to be appointed and
fixed as aforesaid, shall not exceed the annual stun of
1,5001., and shall be defrayed out of the fees and sums
received by the said board under this Act."
Major BERESFORD moved the reduction of the
amount to 1.2001. a year.
Sir B. HALL hoped the House would net accede to
the proposition of the Government. It was clearly for
the purpose of creating an office in which to put some
person that was to be provided for. Ha for one would
not be a party to adding to the patronage of the Govern-
ment.

Colonel SIBTHORP would move that 1,0001. a year
shouli be only allowed. It was enough to provide for
such a deadly case.— (Laughter.)
Sir G. GREY said that the Government would only
be too happy not to have to make any appointment.
But it would be unreasonable to expect to carry on the
Bill with only one paid member of the board. He hoped
Parliament would not so far cripple the Government in
point of means as to render them unable to carry out the
Bill.

Mr. Alderman SIDNEY thought 1,2001. a year too
much for salaries, and that a 1,000/. a year would be
amply sufficient. He was satisfied that the fees would
not cover the expenses for the interments of artisans,
and that the Government would have to resort to the
penny rate. He concluded by moving that 1,0001. should
be the sum fixed iu this matter.

Lord ASHLEY defended the Government from the
imputation of seeking patronage in the case. He dis-
claimed all intention of accepting the place in question;
but he thought it was absolutely impossible for the
Board of Health to go on with his present staff—espe-
cillly if the duties imposed by the Bill were superadded
to their present duties.
Major 13ERESFORD assured the Noble Lord that he
had no view to him in the observations he had made.
He, did not deny that it was necessary to remunerate the
members of the Board; but he was of opinion that 1,2001.
a year was sufficient for that purpose.
Colonel SIBTHORP thought 1,0001. a, year quits sur-
ficient in these times.

Lord J. RUSSELL said the members of the Board of
Health would have very important duties to perform. If,
however, they could be performed for 1,200/. a year he
would be satisfied.
Lord GALWAY said the salary of a dean was fixed
the other day at 1,000/. a year. He did not see why the
present salary should be greater.
Mr. R. PALMER suggested that as the Government
had proposed 1,200/. a year, which was a compromise
between the original sum and the amendment, it would
be as well not to divide the Committee.
Colonel SIBTHORP said as 1,0001. a year was consi-
dered sufficient to advance for superintending the living,
the same sum would be enough to a Commissioner for
superintending the dead.—(A laugh.)
Mr. Alderman SIDNEY, seeing the sense of the House
was in favour of 1,2001., would not give the House the
trouble to divide.
The blank was then filled up with the words 1,401.,
and the clause added to the Bill.
Sir B. HALL then moved the introduction of a clause
to prevent the clergyman exacting a fee unless in the
case of a person dying in his parish. He instanced the
fact of a certain day in the week being set apart in
somo parishes for burials, and a dear) pit being dug—all
the bodies were buried in it, and one service read over
the entire. In that funeral service a separate fee was
charged for each body interred. He thought that a
most disgraceful state of things, and that it ought to be
immediately put an end to. In the parish of St. Giles,
it was ascertained that no less than 4i paupers were
buriel for each funeral service performed, and yet fees
were charged upon each.
Lord ASHLEY said the argument of the ;Honourable
Baronet was that a large income being derived from
burials in this parish of St. Giles, no compensation
should be awarded for the loss the incumbent might
sustain. It appeared to him that it would be most un-
just that these fees, which were taken under the sanction
of an Act of Parliament should be abolished without
any compensation. He could state that the fees had
been very much reduced by Mr. Tyler, the present
officiating minister. At the time it was admitted that
the system of paupers' funerals was not such as any
body could wish to see continued, and he trusted a
remedy to the existing state of things would be speedily
applied.
Mr. R. PALMER said, the Hon. Baronet was mis-
taken if he supposed that the clergyman was obliged to
read a separate service in the case where a number of
burials, baptisms, or marriages took place at the same
time. The custom of the Church was, to read one ser-
vice for all, substituting she plural for the singular. The
lion. Gentleman paid a high tribute to the liberality and
good feeling by which the conduct of the present rector
was distinguished since he had officiated in the present
parish.
Sir B. HALL explained. He had merely stated the
facts that had come to his knowledge, and which had not
been contradicted. He disclaimed any intention of
attacking the Rev. Mr. Tyler.
Mr. GOUL BURN also defended the conduct of the
Rev. Mr. Tyler, observing that the attack that bad been
made upon him by the Hon Baronet had had the effect
of
Geenl
ti
ie citingm
an a hi
ghly
the
paricomplimentaryne
rs o t addresss r. G thatilteos. Rev.
Captain BOLDERO saw 20 or 30 marriages taking
place at the same time in a church a few days ago, and

wished to know whothee Shy clergyman Was not entitled
ti hiA fees on eaei?
The el•suse was then negatived without a division.

Tha Hou;e then resumed.
BOROUGH COURLS OF RECORD (IRELAND)

BILL.

The Huse having gone into Committee on this Bill,
On claim 2,
Mr. GROGAN moved that the sum or 10/. be substi-
tuted for 20/., the sum proposed in the Bill.
Mr. H ATC HELL opposed the amendment.
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment ...
Against it ...
Majority...

100
- -S3

_
The clause was agreed to, and the Bill pissed through
Com mittee.

HOME-MADE SPIRITS IN BOND.

The report on the resolutions on which to found a Bill
on this subject was brought up.

Mr. GOULBURN inquired when corresponding reso-
lutions sv,,uld be brownl,t in with respect to rum?
Mr. F. MACKENZIE was only concerned for
whiskey; but if his Hon. Fri( nd would bring in resolu-
tions respecting rum he should be happy to give him his
support.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that, as he had stated on a former occasion, he should
not offer any opposition at that stage; but on a future
occasion the course he would take would, he hoped, pre-
elude the necessity of introducing any resolution respect-
ing rum.
Mr. F. NIACKENZIE hoped the Right Hon. Gentle-
man would give them notice when he meant to divide
against them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER promised
that he would not take any gentleman by surprise.
The resolutions were agreed to.
The House adjourned at a few minutes past One
o'clock.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
ASCOT RACES..—FRIDAY.
The heath to-day presented a dreary aspect, after the
bustle and excitement of the Cup day. A heavy rain
began shortly after nine o'clock, and coatinued without
cessation until half-past two, when it cleared up, and
the races remaining undecided were run off, with only
one or two trifling showers. The card promised and
realised the customary average of the last day at Ascot,
the Wokinghams, as usual, exciting the greatest amount
of interest in the ring. The first class turned out to be
incomparably the best handicap of the meeting, eight of
twelve which started being soclose:together at the Stand
that it would have required a very quick eye to discern
which had the best of it. The meeting terminated with
a severe race between Defaulter and the Virago colt for
the Member's Plate, the latter winning on the post by a
very short head.
We cannot conclude without complimenting the Noble
Master of the Buckhounds on the very satisfactory man-
ner in which all the arrangements of the course were
carried out. Mr. Clarke's decisions were uniformly
prompt and correct, leaving not the slightest opening for
cavil; and the double duties of clerk of the course and
starter were efficiently performed by Mr. flibburd; nor
ought we to omit noticing that the weighing and tele-
graphing, under the superintendence of Mr. Manning,
were accomplished with a rapidity which must have
greatly facilitated the transaction of business in the ring.
The racing yesterday admits of but the following
brief return:—
Sweepstakes of 50 sovs. each, h ft, for three years old;
colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 31b. Old Mile. (3 Subs.)
Sir G. Heathcote's Lady Geraldine c (F. Butler) 1
Mr. Greville's Brington (Flatman) 2
5 to 2 on Brington, who made play at a wretched pace,
was caught at the stand, and beaten cleverly by a length.
Run in 2 min. 7 secs.
Sweepstakes of 20 soya. each, h ft for two years old ;
colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 41b. Winners extra. Last
half mile. (7 Subs.)
Sir G. Heathcote's Lady Geraldine c.... .(F. Butler) 1
Mr. Payne's Catalpa, Bat 41b (Flatman) 2
5t04 on Catalpa. The non-favourite made all the
running and won by a length. Run in 1 min. 8 secs.
The First Class of the Wokingham Stakes of 5 soya.
each, for three years old and upwards (handicap).
Last three-quarters of the New Mile. (17 Subs.)
Lord Clifden's Wallflower, 4 yrs, Est 131 b (G. Brown) 1
Lord Exeter's Cora, 3 yrs, sst 41b.... .(W. Harlock) 2
Major Martyn's The Moor, 5 yrs+, Bst 81b (Abdale) 0
Count Batthyany's Mogador, 6 yrs, 7st 101 b (Crouch) 0
Mr. Frankum's Dolly Vardea, 4 yrs, 7st 41b (Pettit) 0
Mr. Drinkald's Susan Lovell, 4 yrs, 7et...(Rodney) 0
Mr. Burgess's The Crowner, 4 yrs, 7st (E. Sharp) 0
Mr. G. Liley's Marquis of Conyngham, aged, Est 121 b 0
Mr. Carew's Era, 4 yrs, Est 91b (Robs. Sherwood) 0
Lord Exeter's Preslaw, 3 yrs, bat (Collins) 0
Mr. Payne's Sergius, 3 yrs, sst I llb (Hiett) 0
Mr. Greville's Brington, 3 yrs, sst 81b (T. Smith) 0
2to 1 agst Cora-5 to 2 agst Wallflower-6 to 1 agst
Marquis of Conyngham-6 to 1 agst Dolly Varden,
and Bto 1 agst any other. A most excellent start was
effected, and the whole lot ran in a line to the Stand,
whence to the chair it was "heads and tails " for choice
between seven or eight. Wallflower ultimately winning
by a heal, the same between Cora and Preslaw, and
four or five others well up. Run in 1 min. 25 secs.
Three Hundred Sovereigns, the gift of the Great Wes-
tern Railway Company, added to a Handicap Sweep-
stakes of 10 sovs. each, for three yr olds and upwards;
the second to receive 50 sovs. out of the stakes.
Swinley Course. (3(i Subs.)
Mr. E. Batson's Thistledown, 3 yrs, sst 21b (Smith) 1
Major Martyn's The Swede, 3 yrs, Est 4lb ...(Hiett) 2
Duke of Richmond's Vampyre, 6 yrs, Sat 10lb 3
Mr. E. Jones's Docility, 4 yrs. 6st 61b ( Thick) 4
Mr. Carew's Adieus, 4 yrs, 7st (Dockeray) 0
Mr. Stephenson's Old English Gentleman, 4 yrs, Est 41b 0
Mr. Merry's Brennus, 3 yrs, 6st 41b (Barham) 0
Sir J. Hawley's Queensberry, 4 yrs, Est 31b (Harlock) 0
Mr. R. Etwall's Bushranger, 3 yrs, sst 91b (G. Mann) 0
Betting-5 to 2 agat Docility-3 to 1 agst 'Thistle-
down-4 to 1 agat Vampyre-6 to 1 agst Queensberry
—7 to 1 agst (Edipus—and 8 to 1 agat any other.
Docility took the lead immediately after leaving the
post, followed by Vanspyre, Brennus, Thistledown, and
The Swede, and made running to the distance, where
Thistledown went in front, remained there to the end,
and won cleverly by a length; The Swede passing Vara-
pyre half a distance of home, and beating her for the
second place by two lengths—Docility a good fourth.
Run in 2 min. 4 secs.
The Second Class of the Wokingham Stakes of 5 soya.
each, for three years old and upwards (handicap).
Last three-quarters of the New Mile.
Lord H. Lennox's Woodlark, 4 yrs, Tat 31b(Kitchener) 1
Mr. Ford's Penang, 3 yrs, 7st (W. Smith) 2
Capt. Hervey's Strongbow, 4 yrs, Bst 61b(Wakefield) 3
Duke of Rutland's Nina, 4 yrs, 7st 131 b (Boyce) 0
Mr. Payne's Crucible, 4 yrs, 7st 41b., carried 7st 6lb 0
Major Pitt's Mary, 4 yrs, Est 71b (Collins) 0
Mr. Freeman's Impression, 3 yrs, Sat 101 b (T. Smith) 0
Betting-2 to 1 agst Crucible, 3to 1 agst Strongbow,
7 to 2 agst Nina, 5 to 1 ugst Penang, and 6 to 1 agst
any; other. Penang and Woodlark laid in front from
end to end, the filly waiting until within fifty yards of
home, and winning cleverly by
bad third. Run in 1 min. 27 secs.
length; Strongbow a
The Borough Members' Plate of 50 soya., added to a
Sweepstakes of 5 soya. each; three years old, 7st;
four, Bst 41b; five, Bst 101 b; six and aged, 9st; win-
ners extra; the winner to be sold for 150 soya. if de-
manded, &c. Old Mile. (9 Subs.)
Duke of Rutland's Virago 0, 3 yrs, 7st ...(Chapple) 1
Lord J. Scott's Defaulter, 5 yrs, Sat 101b(Whitehouse) 2
Mr. Hornsby's Old Fox, 4 yrs, Bst 71b (Hornsby,jun.) 3
Mr. Drinkald's Fern, 6 yrs, Bst 101 b (Rogers) 4
Count Batbyany's Mogador, 6 yrs, 9st (Crouch) 5
Betting-6 to 5 agst Defaulter, sto 2 agst Virago colt,
and 4 to 1 agst the Old Fox.
A very severe race between the Virago colt and De-
faulter, the former winning by a head; the Old Fox a
bad third. Run in 1 min. 56 secs.
THE EMPEROR'S PLATE.
ERRATUM.—This race was run in 4 min. 40 secs, not
3 in 40 secs., as incorrectly mentioned in our return.
No change in the St. Leger betting.
BETTING AT MANCHESTER.—FRIDAY.
NORTHUMBERLAND PLATE.-6 to 1 agst Knight of
Gwynne (t freely). 6 to 1 agst Raby (t), 9 to 1 agst
Elthiron (t), 10 to 1 agat Nuunykirk, 10 to 1 agat Miss
Ann.
LIVERPOOL CUP.-9 to 1 agst Cockermouth, 10 to 1
agst St. Rosalie, 10 to 1 agst Snowstorm (t), 11 to 1 agst
Backbiter (t freely), 12 to 1 agst Uriel, 12 to I eget
Captain Grant, 14:to 1 agst Dough.
DONCASTER ST. LEGER.-2 to 1 agst Voltigeur, 8 to
1 agst Clincher (t), S to 1 agat Pitsford (0, 10 to 1 agst
Bolingbroke 15 to 1 agst Mildew, 20'to 1 agst ChaVer-
box (t freely:), 25 to 1 agst Pio Nino (t freely), 25 to 1
agst Knight of Avenel (t), 600 to 20 agst The Italian (0.

COURT
June 14.
(Sittings at Nisi Prius, before Mr. Justice ERL'E and
TAAO F
Q IN
UETEENL,SLIBGEL, CE.
Common Juries.)
SEYMOUR V. NADDox,
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Several witnesses were called on behalf of the plaintiff
in support of the aforesaid facts. The defendant did not
call any evidence.
The jury retired to consider their verdict. After en
absence of about two hours and a quarter they reticantd
into court, and delivered a verdict for the plain tiff—
Damages 301. •

COURT OF BANKRUPTCY, June 14.
(Before Mr. Commissioner FANE).
IN RE MARTIN LUTHER PRITCHARD.—JUDGMENT:
his HONOUR to day gave judgment in this case. He
said—l have already expressed my views at so mruch
length on Pritchard's case, that I do not think it neces-
sary to say much on the present occasion. Having re-
gard to all the circumstances of his case, some of which
are very peculiar, and considering also the severe, pro-
tracted, and expensive inquiries to which he has b, ,e,
subjected, and the length of time during which he :has
been kept out of his certificate, I think he has been., at
all events, sufficiently punished. and I therefore grant
him his certificate. It must, however, be a com mon
certificate, protecting his person and future property
only, and not one of a higher class.

Complaints,
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Holloway's Pills.—Symptoms indicative of these disorders are
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they possess such cleansing and renovating properties that: the
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the patient is restored to perfect health.—Sold by all Drug-
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London. ,
POTATO SPIRIT.—A vessel arrived from Stettin
has brought the large quantity of 225 puncheons of potato
spirit, consigned, and also 135 casks of potato flour, the pro-
duce and manufacture of'Prussia.

OVERLAND MAIL

INDIA AND CHINA.

(From the Herald.)

We have received by Extraordinary Express, in
advance of the Overland Mail, our dispatches from
B nnbay, of May 11 ; Calcutta, May 2 ; Delhi, May
2; and China, April 23. The political news trans•
mitted by these journals is of no particular interest.
Tranquillity prevailed throughout India ; and no
foreboding signs seemed to indicate any change for
the worse. A tremendous hurricane occurred on the
28th of April, which did great havoc both at sea and
on shore. The copious summaries subjoined, ex-
tracted from the Indian and Chinese papers, contain
all tho news worth knowing supplied by this arrival
Trade at Bombay and Calcutta was still dull ; but in
China it was somewhat better.

(Frcm the Bombay Times of May 11.)
SUMMARY.—The past ten days—to this limit our
intelligence is confined—have been signally barren in
events among us, the outbreak in the gaol at Agra
in the beginning of April constituting the most
fertile topic of discussion supplied by our north-
west contemporaries. Amongst others there were
three hundred Seikh prisoners, collected from
various gaols in the Punjaub, confined. A quarrel
occurred betwixt a Seikh and a Sepoy ; the latter
struck the former—others joined in the fray, when
the guard without, attracted by the clamour, turned
out and fired on the tumultuous mass_ The prison-
ers, either wishing to shelter themselves from the
fire or to make their escape, rushed for the, wicket,
which they endeavoured to force. Failing in this,
they seem to have thought it best to return to their
cells. In attempting this they were again fired on,
and seventy-five were either killed or wounded—the
soldiers of the guard not having suffered the slightest
injury. The firing lasted about an hour, the Sepoys
discharging their muskets into the cells when all
power of resisting or assailing them was over. Mr.
Dennison, in his report to Government, states that
the firing at the outset was perfectly uncalled for ;
the loss of life afterwards occasioned he considered a
merciless massacre.—The heats are now everywhere
setting in, and the frontier, and indeed the country
throughout, is perfectly tranquil.—On the 28th
of April a whirling hurricane raged in the upper
part of the Bay of Bengal, during which the ships
Itamoody, Fatal Moobaruck, John Macvicar, and
light-vessel Hope, were more or less damaged. It
was full moon, and the spring-tides rising to a greater
height than usual, flooded most of the country
around. The effects of the hurricane were appa-
rent at Bombay, twelve hundred miles off.—On the
morning of Saturday last the ship Seitha was burnt
at her anchors in Bombay harbour; she was just
ready to sail, and there seems to be no doubt her
destruction was due to incendiaries—the tenth vessel
belonging to our port which has within these eight
years thus perished.—Sir Jamsetjee Jejeebhoy has
just returned from a visit of some weeks to Nowsaree,
near Surat, the place of his birth ; he had been ac-
companied by his lady and all his family, and during
his stay had bestowed the sum of 47,0001. sterling in
public bequests ; having thus, within these 20 years,
bestowed 300,0001. in all from the earnings of his own
hands on public purposes ! The honour hitherto be-
stowed on him for these matchless acts of more than
regal munificence, is a title which perishes with
him !—Railway discussions continue to occupy the
newspapers both at Calcutta and Bombay. The
restrictions laid on the Bengal line, which render
its construction impracticable, are ascribed to the
Board of Control ; the London Board of Directors
having expended some 40,0001. in preliminary
charges, and maintained an extravagantly-paid
establishment two years after they knew that the
line to which they had supposed themselves to be
restricted was so utterly objectionable that operations
must be put a stop to by the Bengal Government
the moment they were commenced—everything
requiring to be begun anew. The shares of the
Peninsular line already have fallen at Bombay by
about 20 per cent., in consequence of the proceed-
ings of the London Board, whose local newspaper
organ seems exerting itself with all its might to
puff up Mr. Cornelius Nicholson and his proteges,
and blacken and abuse all the previous employes
of the concern.—lntelligence was received by the
last imail of the appointment of Sir W. Gomm to be
Commander• in-Chief at Bombay ; he is expected
out in October; Sir W. Cotton will leave us on

the arrival of his successor. He will carry with
him the good wishes and regrets of the army
over which he presides, his administration having
been distinguished for justice, firmness, and forbear-
ance.—The Most Noble the Governor-General, we
are informed by the Mofussilite, passed through
Meerut on his way to Simla on the night of the 27th
ult. We regret to hear, from another source, that
the Noble Lord was suffering rather severely from
dysentery. We trust the climate of the hills may
speedily restore him to perfect health and strength, to
enable him to bring to a conclusion the peace im-
provements already begun, or just about to be so.—
Sir Charles Napier and staff rewthed Simla on the
21st and 26th ult. There is, we hear, good grounds
for the assertion that the gallant veteran returns to
England in October ; had he had his own will, he
would, it is affirmed, have retired from India in
April last. The successor to Sir Charles bas been
named to us—but this we for the present forbear re-
peating.

than the recent aver<ige amount of news. The influ-
ence of the hot Eea on is upon India, and all is peace
s.nd languor. Tae Alre,dees yet go unpunished.
Tne Governor-G-ezeral, cm his way to the hills, :cached
Ailahabad on the 2.31 ult.

The only local event worthy of special notice is the
occurrence of a cyclone, or rotatory storm, the centre
of which seems to have passed at no great distance
from Calcutta. On the 27th ult. it blew very strong
here in frequent squalls, but in the country to the
south, as about Midnapore, the tempest appears to
have raged with irresistible fury. Sad accounts are
coming in of damage done by the hurricane or the
inundation which, occurring simultaneously with a
high spring tide, it has occasioned in the low districts
between Calcutta and the sea. Several vessels down
the river or near the Sandheads have suffered more or
less from the storm ; but as yet we have beard of
nothing worse than the loss of masts, &c., unless it be
the stranding of one country vessel on Saugor Island.
The Oriental, with the mail of 25th March, came
in unexpectedly on the 30th ult., beating the Bombay
Express, a feat now very rarely achieved by the
Peninsular and Oriental Company's steamers.
The John Macvicar, it would appear, got away
from the Sandheads on the 24th, and as the cyclone
did not occur until the 27th, we may conclude she
was safely to sea out of reach of the storm on the
latter date.