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HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair in the new House at
Three o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Lords' amendments to the followings Bills were
considered and agreed to:—
Hartlepool West Harbour and Docks.

Oxford. Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway.
The Bills were afterwards read a third time and passed,
STANDING ORDERS REVISION COMMITTEE,

Mr. W. PATTEN moved the adoption of the report
of the Standing Orders Revision Committee, and ex-
plained the alterations recommended by the-Committee,
the tchitf of which was, that the officer of Breviates
should in future devote his entire services and attention
to the chairman of Ways and Means, with the view of
assisting him in disposing of the private business that
came before the House. The Committee also recom-
mended that the Chairman of the Ways and Means
should have power to make unopposed B►lls opposed fur
the purpose of having their merits fully investigated.
Mr. LABOUCHERE thought the House could not do
better than adopt the alterations recommended by the
Committee, and took the opportunity of thanking the
Hon. Gentleman the Member for North Lancashire for

the time, care, and attention which he had devoted to
the private business of the House.
Mr. BERNAL also added his weed of praise to the
ackno*ledgment of the Right Hon. the President of the
Board of Trade.

Mr. HUME thought the alterations which had been
recommended were great improvements, and had les-
sened the labour connected with the private business;
but it was the opinion of two Committees that a large
proportion of the private business which now occupied a
great (hal of the time of the House could be managed
without coming before the House at all.
Atter a few words-from Mr. WILSON PATTEN,
The report was adopted, the standing orders were
read, and the alterations made in them as recommended.
MERCANTILE MARINE BILL.

On the motion of Mr. LABOUCHERE, the Lords'
amendments to the Mercantile Marine Bill were agreed to.
PE FITIONS.

.Mr. G. A. HAMILTON presented a petition from
Dublin, complaining of c,,rtain provisions in the Medi-
cal Charities (Ireland) Bill, and of the hasty manner
in which the Bill was passed through Committee.
Sir G. GREY presented a petition from certain coal-
owners in IsLprthumberlarid and Durham against the
application of the coal tax, and in defraying the expense
of any improvements in London.

CRI&IE AND OUTRAGE ACT (IRELAND) CON
TINUANCE (No. 2) BILL.

On the motion for the third reading of this Bill,
Mr. G. THOMPSON moved that the Bill be read a

third time this day three months, because he believed that
it was wholly uuneeessary, because no case had been made
out for the continuance of so obnoxious a measure, and
because it would have a tendency directly the opposite of
that which her Majesty's Ministers proposed it should
have in tranquillizing Ireland. He considered that
though the Bill might put powers in the hands of
the Lord-Lieutenant to repress crime and to
punish those who might offend against it,
it would arm tens of thousands of individuals with
a strong argument to use against the Government, more
especially as no measure either before the House or
promised, or which bad been passed, went to the root of
those evils in respect of which the present
Bill had been introduced. The Bill was not only
unnecessary, but it was an insult, an injustice,
and an outrage upon the Irish people.—(Hear.)
It should not Le forgotten,' in connexion with the mea-
sure that when the liberties of Ireland were placed in
jeopardy only 15 out of 105 Irish -Members could be

found to vow against the continuance of an arbi-
trary and unconstitutional form of government for
a further period of three y ears.—(Hear, hear.)
On the second reading of the Bill, Mr. O'Conaell moved
an amendment to the effect that the Bill would tend to
aggravate crime and outrage in Ireland, and on that ec•
casion the Noble Lord now at the head of the Govern-
ment, and the greater part of the present Ministry, voted
against the amendment, though many of the Ho-
nourable Gentlsm la on that side of the House
then voted wish Mr. O'Connell against the
Coercion Bill, end now voted with the Noble Lord in
favour of a Coercion Bill. On the third reading of the
Bill, in 1846, the greater part of the present Ministry
voted against the Bill, and now, in 1850, they were touna
voting in favour of a similar measure. On that occasion
Sir Robert Peel was turned out of office,'and the Noble
Lord formed a Ministry, and attempted to govern
Ireland. In 1847 the Noble Lord was placed
in the humiliating position of recommending the
same measure in her Majesty's Speech, the
adoption of which he had the year before opposed.
That measure was passed. It was now expired, and
they were called upon to continue it; but it the House
did justice to themselves and the country, they would
refuse its continuance. What was the case made out for
the present Bill? Some months ago they were told from
the Throne that peace and tranquillity prevailed in
Ireland. Now, had this state of things changed? He
for one said it had not, and yet they were
called upon to pass the Bill in the absence of any case in
its favour. The total number of crimes and outrages com-
mitted or reported in Ireland in the past year amounted
to 1,344, while in 1845, when Sir Robert Peel proposed
to pass his Bill, the number reported in excess of the
previous year amounted to 1,975, or 631 leas than
the returns of last year. In the face of these figures,
then could any one dare to assert that a case
existed to justify the passing cf this obnoxious
Bill, sanctioning penalties that were utterly at
variance with the - principles of the constitution?
It could not be that this Bill was proposed because
they had had no experience of coercion, for ever since
the Act of Union the policy of every Government to-
wards Ireland had been based upon coercion. Before,
therefore, he could consent to make this Bill law he
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must have some further information in its
Le:rudpoant thethe Admi-
nistrationhead under Sir Robert Peel to go at once to
the root of the Irish evil, and, abandoning coercion,
try the effect of remedial measures. Now he made the
same call upon the Noble Lord- himself. Why
could not Parliament be asembled together in Novem-
ber next, expressly to consider the Irish ques-
tion ? The fact was, the Noble Lord suffered himself
long the
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nature, and reverse that policy. He concluded by
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ing that the Bill be read a third time that day three
reenths, declaring that he would resist the measure to
the very last.
Mr. MOORE tendered the English Members who had
opposed this 13111 his best thanks for the service they had
rendered to Ireland on this occasion, though be should
have liked it much better if that support had been given
with less of self-glorification and less of asperity. He
concluded by seconding the motion.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL regretted her Majesty's Mi-
nisters had thought it necessary to propose the conti-
nuance of the Crime and Outrage Act. He believed
teat a mild remedy was much more likely to cure the
oiseasc under which Ireland laboured than the severe one
which was involved in this Bill. He would now, as he
nad always done, oppose the further progress of the Bill.
Mr. W. 'WILLIAMS said he little thought that the
apt -me be should give after his return to that House