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London, England, 1844-11-13 00:00:00

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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY.
GLOBE.—The project for the establishment of
baths and washhouses for the labouring poor is now
so far advanced, and so extensively supported, that
the completion of the undertaking may be reasonably
anticipated. We have, however, reason to believe
that the ideas prevalent among those who have so
honourably distinguished themselves in the promotion
of this project, as to the precise manner in which they
are to effect their object, or even as to the nature
of the obstacles they may probably have to con-
tend with, are yet exceedingly undefined. They
propose to put themselves in direct and imme-
diate communication with a class of persons with
whose habits and notions they most probably pos-
sess a very imperfect acquaintance. The daily life of
the poor and the destitute in our courts and alleys is
as little—perhaps less—known to those whose names
appear most prominent in the list of subscribers
to this benevolent scheme than the habits of the
aborigines of New Zealand or Labrador. Tact
and intelligence, in addition to an untiring spirit
of philanthropy must be employed to make the
means of cleanliness, about to be offered to the
poor, available for good, to an extent in any degree
commensurate with the expectations of those who
have taken so warm an interest in furnishing them.
It is not enough that the means be there. We
must also have, in those for whose use they are in-
tended, a disposition to use them. One of the most
constant results of a life of poverty in a large city
is an indifference to personal cleanliness. Such
an indifference is, we believe, at this mo-
ment, almost universal among the poor and
labouring classes of London. It would, indeed,
be surprising if it were otherwise. In the first
place cleanliness is scarcely compatible -with the
miserable domestic arrangements, and the priva-
tion of light, air, and water, to which the poor of
a city are always, more or less, closely habituated.
Their occupations also, which, with the industrious,
fill up nearly the whole of their waking hours gene-
rally oppose a barrier to the cultivation of a taste
for cleanliness. If it could be supposed that there
is in man, as there seems to be in some of the
lower animals, a natural tendency to be clean,
we might perhaps depend upon its displaying
itself whenever the obstacles to its indulgence
might be removed. But experience and observation
show that this is not so. Where food and warmth are
scarce, there is, on the contrary, a strong tendency to
shun leanliness, as a positive infliction. There is an
old Scottish proverb—"the clartier the cosier"—which
recent researches in animal physiology have stamped
with the authority of a scientific truth. It is found that
men who are insufficiently fed and clothed are lite-
rally not fitted to bear cleanliness. It augments the
rapidity of the process by which the vitality of the body
is in a constant course of reduction, and renders an in-
creased supply of food and warmth essential to its
preservation in a state of tolerable comfort. These,
we apprehend, are causes which will greatly reduce
the numbers of those who are expected to take advan-
tage of the establishment of the proposed baths and
washhouses for the improvement oftheir personal habits:
There are also other circumstances worthy of careful
consideration in reference to any attempt to make such
an establishment generally useful. Among those of the
poorer classes who may be least affected by the causes
we have already enumerated, we may expect to find
many whose desire for cleanliness is one of the rem-
nants of a mode of life adopted in a station from
which they have been reduced. But in dealing with
this class we have to encounter another obstacle, and
one less likely to be readily obviated than any of
those yet referred to. Such persons will usually be
found to cherish strong objections to the receipt
of public bounty in any form. The preservation
of any portion of the habits and feelings of a
station from which they have sunk, is generally
accompanied by an unwillingness to acknowledge the
depth of their fall. They cling to all that remain
of the past, as something distinguishing them from
those by whom they are surrounded. And the same
course of feeling too commonly urges them to
reject everything which, however beneficial in
itself, might seem to place them upon a common
level with those who have no such remem-
brances to give dignity to the present, or to cast the
light of hope over the future. These are undoubtedly
the very persons to whom the benefits of the scheme
would be most acceptable, could they be accepted
without a sacrifice of the feelings which tend to make
them so. They form, probably, a large majority of
those who, in the present condition of the poor, will
recorise the value of the proffered advantages; but
we fear they will also be found, in reference to this and
all similer schemes of public benevolence, most difficult
to reach and to relieve. There is much in the nature
and object of the plan alluded to, which must secure
to it the warm approval and hearty co-operation ( f
every intelligent and humane observer of the state ee
the poor in this country. It reflects the highest ho-
nour upon all concerned in its formation and pro-
motion. But, with our best wishes for its success,
we cannot but mingle some portion of anxiety.
Should this effort fail, its failure will long be found an
obstacle in the way of any similar scheme. We
should he sorry to see any movement, resulting from
the awakened attention to the manifold miseries of
the poor, frustrated by a want of care in con-
ducting it to a definite and beneficial result. And
there is probably no subject upon which the want of
accurate information is more general, cr less appa-
rent, than upon the actual state of the lower classes
of society. Our past indifference to their sufferings
has indeed only one excuse—our ignorance. The
first motive to a change of our conduct has been fur-
nished by a partial removal of that ignorance. We
already see enough to discover our error ; but we fear
it will be necessary to push our knowledge much be-
yond its present extent, before we shall be in a fit
condition to amend it.
STANDARD.—The rapid decline of the repeal
rent for some weeks past appears to have filled the
arch-mendicant with unfeigned alarm, and to have
induced him to break the "sagacious pause in direct
' agitation which he had prescribed 'fbr himself.
The daily subsiding fanaticism of his followers, and
the dissensions which have arisen among them, have
imposed upon him the necessity of reviving, coute
qui coute, the expiring agitation. Another motive.
hardly less cogent, has doubtless had something to do
with his decision. Next Sunday will be tribute day,
and unless he makes some show of not having alto-
gether abandoned his trade, he seems likely to have
a Flemish account from the " begging brothers"
of his order. Influenced by there very sufficient
reasons for bestirring himself, he has, in a long
and wordy letter to the Repeal Assoiciation, an
flounced his intention to be present at the Concilia-
tion Hall on the 25th instant, and to bring for-
ward two subjects of " great vital importance."
The first (risurn teneatis) is his `• proposal
to impeach the persons principally concerned in the
late monster prosecution," and to procure the 64
of the people of Great Britain in enforcing in
Parliament the necessity of such impeachment.
This little interlude will of course involve a sub-
scription, the alpha and omega of all his speculations.
But his grand object is the organisation of the
Preservative Society of 300, who will be re-
quired to subscribe 1001. a-piece, for the doubtful
honour of rendering themselves liable to prosecu-
tion; and who will form a sort of provisional par-
liamen until a repeal House of Commons be
elected. It is confessed that the legal difficul-
ties whichirm.,usetseatetaennnorch a scheme are great,
and that,prociened
no
further
satisfactorily overcome,
it will
eorf than the deposit of
the " sum and front"
peculation—the
collection of the cash. Ilere,reepethaesine„mis something
with which to amuse the
25th. With regard to repeal O'Connelllntiela l thee
intimates that if the substitute he has proposed
does not yield him a little more profit than a has
bitherto done, he will fall back on his original idea.
He admits, moreover, that the federal experiment

has, so far, proved unsuccessful ; for Protestant
gentlemen of rank, talent, and patriotism, have
not flocked to its standard in the numbers that
might have been expected. Mr. Grey Porter had, to
be sure, promised to enlighten his countrymen
on the subject, but the mountain is still in labour.
Mr. Sharman Crawford has treated us with an
outline of the benefits which federalism is to
realise for its adherents, but with all this there have
been no public meetings, no agitation, and worst of
all, no subscriptions. Such a state of things can-
not, of course, be tolerated any longer. Mr. O'Con-
nell has accordingly 'come forward to inti-
mate to his countrymen that federalism is but a
name for another sort of agitation, which
will not only eventually give them " simple
repeal but something more: He ascribes the present
failure of the movement to Whig disaffection from
its ranks, and reprobates the conduct of the Tory
press in having ascribed to him an intention to
coalesce with them ; whilst he admits that they had
"countenanced every effort of his to procure a de-
claration from the federalists," with the view, of
course, of taking a part in the speculation. We were,
therefore, not so far wrong when we expressedour bel;ef
that a coalition was in course of negotiation, and
would have been effected had not Mr. O'Connell
demanded exorbitant terms as the price of his ad-
hesion. Looking at these disappointments and
mortifications, he proposes to consider federalism
as merely an interlude of the grand drama of
repeal. With these opinions, and with an eye
to some defections from the cause, and more
especially to that of Mr. Duffy and his newspaper
fellow-labourers, he proposes that federalism shall
no longer be one of hi% Cabinet questions, but shall
be thrown open. Looking to the unprofitable results
of the compromise, he now expresses his determination
not to be content with anything short of the repeal
of the union, the restoration of the Irish House of
Lords, the reconstruction (on reform principles) of
the Irish House of Commons, and its investment
with all the power it enjoyed (and abused) before
the union ; that is to say, complete legislative
and judicial authority in Ireland. subject always to
the preservation of the connection (ad libitum) be-
tween great Britain and Ireland, through the means
of a sole executive and the golden link of the Crown.
This is what he is pleased to consider simple
repeal. and those who do not care to call
it by that name, may call it federalism,
or anything else they please. His sole
object in giving it that title was, he can
didly confesses, to conciliate certain Protestant noble-
men and gentlemen who had held aloof from the ori-
ginal movement ; " seeing that repeal, to be useful to
Ireland, should have their assent." It is thus clear,
that he has not yet given up the hope of a coalition
with the Whigs, and that the " sagacious pause," of
which he has just spoken, was designed to afford op-
portunities for further deliberation and negotiation. _

STATE OF TRADE.
(From the Mancheskr Guardian.)
The Yarn Market continues without change ;
indeed the spinners are under contract to so great an
extent, as to leave very little yarn for present sale ;
and prices are very firm, except for some few of the
finer counts suitable for doubling, which are rather
easier to buy. Goods are steady at previous rates.
ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, MONDAY, Nov. 11.
—There has been very little change in the piece
market to-day, except, perhaps, it may be said,
that the buyers have shown a greater desire to
purchase. The manufacurers have complained that
the forced sales of last Monday were quoted in
the Guardian, as it is well known that prices are
submitted to by some parties (at a slack time) in
November, which are, perhaps, not a fair criterion
fur those who can hold their goods. It appears to us,
however, that the prices at which business is done
are the market prices, and as such ought tube quoted.
The wool market is much the same ; manufacturers
buy for immediate use only.

QUEEN'S BENCH.-(THIS DAY.)

THE GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY V. THE
MAGISTRATES OF BERKSHIRE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
The COURT took time to consider their judgment.

BAIL COURT.—(THIS DAY.)
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
IN RE THE REV. JAMES MEDE NISBETT.

A writ of habeas to bring up the body of the de-
fendant was obtained in this case. As far as the
facts were disclosed it appeared that Mr. Nisbett was
imprisoned in this country for a debt due to Mr.
Bucannan, who discounted some bills for him. He
was in prison for sixteen months but lately applied
and obtained an order for his liberation, under the
late statute for the relief of insolvent debtors. He
was, however, detained under a warrant issued
by the justices of the peace for the county of Tippe-
rary, which was backed by Mr. Jardine, the police
magistrate of Bow-street, for a riot with which he
was charged. The warrant stated that the defendant
was " indicted at the peace-office" for a riot, and " it
charged and commanded the police-constables of
Tipperary to apprehend the said James Mede Nis-
bett, if found in Tipperary, and him in safe custody
keep, so as to have his body before the justices of peace
at Nenagh to answer for the said offence."
Mr. Humphrey, with whom were Mr. Bodkin and
Mr. Sturgeon, appeared in support of the discharge.
Mr. Doudeswell appeared to oppose the discharge.
Mr. Justice PATTESON, in giving judgment, said
that in this country there would be two fatal objec-
tions to the warrant. The first was, that it stated the
defendant was indicted " in the Peace-office." He did
not know what the Peace-office was. If the indictment
was preferred at the Court of Quarter Sessions, it
should be so stated. If it was not, then the justices of
Quarter Sessions had no jurisdiction. The other
objection was one which arose from the extraordinary
nature of the warrant. It directed the whole body of
the police of the county of Tipperary to appre-
hend the party if found within the county, and
him in safe custody keep, so that they might have his
body at the Quarter Sessions. It was clearly contrary
to law to give the police any such authority unless there
was some Irish statute to justify it. If the offence was a
bailable one the party was to be bailed by the proper
authorities, if not a bailable offence he was to be impri-
soned and kept in the custody of the Sheriff. But accord-
ing to this warrant neither of these things was to be
done, but the party was to remain in the custody of the
police till the next session. It appeared to him very ex-
traordinary. The party must be discharged.
The prisoner was discharged accordingly.

THE DREADFUL ACCIDENT AT

BLACKWALL.

CORONER'S INQUEST.-(THIS DAY.)

Precisely at half-past twelve o'clock, this day, the
Coroner for the Eastern District, 'William Baker,
Esq., attended at the Queen's Head, High-street,
Poplar, where a jury, composed of the most respec-
table inhabitants of the division, were met to inquire
into the cause which resulted in the death of Jacob
Samuda, Samuel Dodd, James Sclanders, Henry
Scovell, Thomas Nuent, John Newman, and Arthur
M'Gee.

The jurymen afterwards proceeded to view the re-
mains of the sufferers, which lay in the bone-house
of the parish. The exhibition was truly a painful one,
for, in addition to the sad relics of mortality, the re-
lations of the deceased were in the immediate neigh-
bourhood, and their unaffected sorrow, if silently ex-
pressed, was only the more touching.

As the room in the Queen's He-ad was not suffi-
ciently large to accommodate the parties who, from
curiosity, or more generous motives, attended the
inquest, the jurymen retired to the Town-hall, where
the following evidence was taken before the worthy
Coroner :

(It is since ascertained that two of the unfortunate
men removed to the London Hospital have died, but
the jury will not take mgnisance of their deaths to-
day.)

The
names of the jurymen having been called over,
the first witness called was an engineer, a workman
in the service of Messrs. Samuda, whose evidence was
merely taken to identify the bodies.
Joseph Reed, Blackwall, pattern-maker, knew the
body of Mr. Jacob Samuda, who was an engineer,
residing in Summer- street, Southwark. His age
was somewhere about thirty-one. Also the bodies of
Henry Scovell, aged 44, residing at 14, Earl-street,
Poplar; James Sclanders, aged thirty-seven ; Thomas
Nugent, aged eighteen, of 157, Union-street ; John
Newman, fireman, aged thirty-seven; Arthur M'Gee,
labourer, aged thirty-five, also of Poplar; and Samuel
Dodd, aged twenty-seven, of Blackwall. The bodies
were those lying in the dead-house.
George Low, 14, Hamilton-street, Deptford —I am
an engineer in the employ of Messrs. Jacob and
Joseph Samuda, the former the deceased. They are
builders of iron boats, as well as engineers. They
built and placed the engines in the Gipsy Queen,
which I believe belonged to an Irish company. A
ship of her size and measure might be worth about
15,000/. The engines were double, but moved by
one shaft. I believe the engine is patented. It is
generally known by the name of the "bell-crank"
engine. The engines stand fore and aft, instead of
across the vessel, the object being merely to save
room. The beam of a common engine revolves upon
its centre, but the beams of Messrs. Samuda's have
their motions at the end, and not in the centre. I
cannot say what effect the difference of engine may
have in causing the accident, but from my glance at
the remains of it I should say that the steam pipes
look as if they had been taken from an old vessel in-
stead of being new. The engines were condensing
ones and worked all day yesterday. The valve would
not rise at 101 b. to the square inch, and before mis-
chief could arise it was calculated to work 401 b. to the
square inch. The horse power would depend upon the
200, as the diamet o
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started at a quarter to three yesterday for the second
trial, she having first tried from her moorings on
Friday last. She turned when off Woolwich, and
arrived at Blackwall at ten minutes past five, when
she was moored to a buoy off Brunswick Pier. I
worked during the trip one engine, and the deceased
Mr. Samuel Dodd the other. The power was kept
up till the vessel was fast at her moorings, and then
the deceased Mr. Samuda said to me, " That will do
with the engine." I replied, " Then I will draw the
fire and blow the boilers off," which meant that I would
throw the water off. lie said, " Don't do that." I
want to see 251bs. upon the boilers, meaning of course
251bs. to the inch. He added " fetch me a candle,"
and I did so, and we then looked at the gunge, and
found it 101 b. to the square inch. He told me to go
and see if the steam was going strongly off. I or-
dered one of the firemen to go, but deceased would not
permit it, saying, " I cannot depend upon any one
but you." I then went, but had not gone 40 inches
or four steps on deck, when 1 heard the explosion. I
cannot tell what caused the explosion.
By a Juror—No steam could blow off without a
pressure of 26 lbs. to the inch upon the boiler, for
then only would the safety-valve lift up. There was
a little steam blowing out when I got on deck, so
that, instead of the 10 lb. pressure which we had
when we got under weigh, we had a pressure of 25
lbs. The main steam pipe has given way—it is jointed,
and the explosion has lifted it out of the socket. It
was only fastened by a packing, in the customary
mode, with cast-iron steam pipes. Messrs. Samuda
were under a contract to use up such parts of an old
engine as was fit for the purpose.
By the CORONER—The cast-iron pipes, the air-
pumps, &c., used were of that old material.
By a Juror—l am not aware of the conditions of
the contract. I should think that the Messrs.
Samuda need not employ any part of the engine that
was defective.

The CORONER, said that now, as he understood the
case, there did not appear to be any bursting, but a
giving way, if he might say so, of the socket.
By a Juror—The socket wa s fourteen or fifteen
feet from the boiler, and had the pressure never been
more than 101 b., there would have been no danger in
working with such a joint, but with the increased
pressure it was not safe.'

The CORONER did not see how the same accident
should not happen every day, if the main pipes were
only connected with the engine in the way described ;
and if the witness, as a practical man, would mention
some other way more safe, they should feel obliged
to him.
Mr. Low's examination continued.--The state of
the engine could not be seen for above an hour and a
half, in consequence of the dense volume of steam
there. If Mr. Samuda had remained where I left
him, beneath the joint, the steam would rush upon
him at its first escape. The deaths of all would, no
doubt, be instantaneous. Some men escaped. Holes
were cut in the deck to get at the deceased persons;
but, as I have said, it would be more than an hour
and a half before the first of us could go down. I
have no doubt it was entirely accidental.
By James Pim, jun., Esq., of Monkstown Castle,
who appeared for the Brothers Samuda—The cause
of the accident was not in any way to be attributed
to the construction of the engine or boiler, neither
had the material itself of which the steam pipe
was composed anything to do with it. The sole
cause in my opinion was the mode in which the joint
was made. I could not, however, with the same pipe
resist any possible pressure of steam that these engines
could generate ; but, by altering the pipe, I could
make it capable of withstanding any pressure.
The CORONER said there was no question of the
solidity of the engine or material, the only question
was in the socket itself; and he wished to know if
any person in court differed from the witness as to the
cause of the accident. None appearing, the inquest
was adjourned till Saturday next, at 10 o'clock.