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London, England, 1850-06-21 00:00:00

METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL.

Sir GEOIWE GREY moved the third reading of this
Ball, which was agreed to, when certain amendments
were added to the Bill.

On the motion that the Bill do now pass,
Mr. HUME protested against the clurical sine2urcs
which were created. by this Bill.

Lord D. STUART said the Bid was open to serious
objections, but, as he agreed to the principle of the Bill,
and on that ground voted for the. second reading, he
should not now, on the same grounds, oppose the third
reading, having done all in his power to render it less
noxious than it was in its original form. With all its
detects, yet as he was opposed to intramural burials, he
would not offer any further opposition to the Bill.
Mr. G. THOMPSON said the Government had taken
advantage of the feeling in favour of extramural burials
to impose this Bill upon the public. He had no doubt
the country would become acquaintei with • the defects
of this Bill, and before next session the Governuit:nt
would regret they had paced this Bili so precipitately
through the House. It was, in fact, an insidious at-
tempt to raise the value of the livings in the metropolis,
and was a grievous injustice towards the l_lisenter:.
Although there was no chance of preventing the passing
of the Bill, the people would take care that it should not
be applied without modificatton to other parts of the
country. He could now only protest against it. As fir
as it secured the health of the community, and secured
extramural burials, ho approved of it; but as far as It
mortgaged the body of every man for the payment of a
sum of money to be paid to parties who had nothing for
it he protested against it.

Mr. ELLIS said his constituents, who were princi-
pally Dissenters, (lid not object to compensation to the
pt sent incumbents of parishes, but they object,d strongly
to the ptrmancnt payment secured by this Bill in pm -
pctuity.
Mr. KERSHAW expressed himself in favour of tle
principle of the Bill.
The 13111 then paiFed.
FACTORIES BILL.

On the motion for the third reading of the Factories
Bill,

Mr. F. O'CONNOR said, when there was so .mlch
sympathy shown for the dead, he hoped there would be
some shown for the living. How could children who
were worked under this Bill have time for improve-
ment? He was sorry the Member for Manchester was
not in his place, who Lad the impertinence and audacity
--(Cries of " Order.")
The SPEAKER called the Hon. Member to order,
and intimated that the expressions he had used wore un-
parliamentary.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said be should bow to his deci-
sion, and would recall then), but they were net stronger
than the Hon. Member applied to hirn.—(Order, order.)
It that Bill were attempted to be pissed he would en-
deavour to arouse the feeling of the people out of doors
against it, and to make them alive to its injusieui pro-
vidons. The Hon. MPrnher hero read some statements
from a latter to the effect that Mr. Bright was alv.trys
Vito first to reduea wages.
Mr. REYNOLDS iegnii.ed whether notice of the
reading of this letter was given to the lion. Member for
Manchester.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said that he had not given him
notice. Mr. Bright was not in the House. The treat-
ment of these poor children was to bo deprecated. The
schools to Which they were sent stunted their growth
and injured their health. Let any one who had
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fatyears.
There y
fir these poor little children look to the average of
the rnantifa:Auring district. it was only 27 year:,
while in the agricultural districts it was
There should be SQIIIO feeling for these poor little

children. He would not further trespass upon the Hew!e
than to day, that if justice was not done the people viotil
speedily do justice for themselves. Ho opposed the thin'
reading of the Bill.
Mr. REYNOLDS had the greatest possible abhor.
rence for anonymous communications,
which were fee
quently made the vehicle of attacking private repatatiny'
letter,
lie found the letter read was a copy of another
and that it had no name attached to it. He thought that
the more. honourable and creditable course would hi
been to have given the Member for Manchester notice°
-
his intention to censure him. lie disapproved of attack'
ing men in their absence. lie knew something of bir•
Bright's mills, and they did not deserve the imputation
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thrown out.
Mr. FEARGUS O'CONNOR-said he would offer the
original letter to the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir G. Grey)'
although not to the Right Hon. Gentleman the Lord
Mayor of Dublic. •
Sir G. GREY was sorry that this private question na
h
been pursued so far, but if the letter had been written
by a Government inspector, he wished to know the nal°
of the writer, but the sooner they returned to the ques-
tion -before the Route the better, aud with respect 10 it
he should only say, that he thought the measure before
the House was one which would prove satisfactory to
the great body of the operatives, and he thougnt the
House would be doing them a great service in rcurotT'
the uncertainty of the existing law, by going at once
the third reading of the Bill.
Mr. FOX said that ho looked upon this measure 0
only a temporary arrangement, and his conviction lc°
that from the addition of two hours' work in the green'
and the non-restriction of the hours of young childrelh
the opetatives would not accept it as a permanent fettle:
aunt of the question. lie deprecated the temper On
the mode in which this Bill had been assailed. lb°
factory operatives of Nottingham had not deputed- thee
advocacy of their cause to the lion. Member opPoite
(Mr. F. O'Connor), but to other hands, and whet ha"
just taltea place showed the wisdom of that 01"
rangernent. With regard to the statement respecting
Mr. Bright, in the letter read by the lion. Gentleela°l
everybody who knew Mr. Bright knew that be wai
capable of oppressiv3 and cruel conduct.—(llear.)
lamented that the Hon. Member, (Mr. O'Connor) W 0
not in his place, when his vote might have done
operatives much more good than the remarks lee 06
made that evening.
Mr. HUME said that he had always strenuouslY °P;
posed all Bills interfering with the labour market; h° '
however much opposed au lion. Member might be toe n
Bil/ before the House, he thought it unwise to uselna,
guage which had a tendency to prevent capitalists fro
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employing their capital to the best advantage;
He thought this Bill was an improvement lie
the hst, but it was at the same time a• 0°,5
ing to the Noble Lord, that when they departed
from principle, there was no telling to what
would lead. It was on that ground that he wished
misr his protest against the Bill.
Sir T. ACLAND said he looked upon the Bill ill Ore
as a compromise than as a final settlement of the 11000;
Lion. lie approved of restricting the hours of lam%
but thought that the measure, in providiog for On
.11',
who could help themselves, was strangely deficieet,re
overlooking the clams of those of tender years.
hoped another session would not pass without this objer
tion being removed.—(Hear, hoar.)
The SPEAKER putahe question for the third readings
of the Bill, and upon making the usual announceracl3
that the ayes have it,
Mr. O'CONNOR said emphatically the noes have it?.
The gallery was then cleared for a division, but On
took place.
The Bill was read a third time and passed. a
The Borough Courts of Record (Erelaad) Bill was reel
a third time and passed.
The Turnpike Roads (Ireland) Bill was read a thir
time and passed.
COURT OF EXCHEQUER (IRELAND) PlLitls
On the order of the day for the second reading of SP
Bill, A et
Mr. NAPIER, thought that sufficient reasons fallen
been given by the Government for taking this step finr
the abolition of the equity jurisdiction of that court
tbe
Ireland. It was egainst the advice and opinion of its
Learned Judges of that court. It was true that ill
country it bud been abolished, but the cases in the t'd
countries were not parallel. They had the Coati
of
Chancery full of business in Ireland, while the Court•
Exchequer had comparatively nothing to do. He 0°12.60,
dared that no measure could be more injurious to the:oo
terests of Ireland than the present; and for that res.a.•
he felt bound to offer it his strongest opposition. ,;;;
then alluded,. to the officers of that court, and said ?is
nothing could be more unjust than to allow such officl?„e
to live on the taxes of the country, without perforsal;
any duty whatever, and thus enjoy a sinecure at- the e
pense of the country.
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Mr. HATCHELL said that a Bill for the trans-
_, be
the cquity branch of the Court of Exchequer wool° of
most useful, and he was happy to say that he Joe° is
one of the judges of the Court of Exchequer being; es
favour of this Bill, and that none of the other Jude
were opposed to it.—(Hear, hear.)
'The Bill was then read a second time.
CHARITABLE
oIveTRUSTS BILL.
The House then resd itself into Committee on the
13i11. tee'
Mr. TURNER moved, on clause 1, that the 009, #
should not be removed according to the Bill, as sec:o4
line of procedure be considered to be very unjust, •ge
should, therefore, move that the question relatileibe
the removal of the trustees should be erased frail '
clause. the
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL explained that fore
the clauses would render everything towlle
the Hon. Gentleman referred satisfactory, and there Do,
hoped that he would not press his amendment, as
thing beneficial would arise from such an opposition 6
he then offered.
The Committee divided, when there appeared--
For the amendment ... 14
Against it ... 65
Majority ... --51
Clauses 3,4, 5,6, and 7 were then agreed to.
On clause 8 being proposed, trot
Mr. TURNER objected that the whole of the enoto
of the charitable trusts under this clause would fell n"rto
the hanes of the clerks of the judges of the countY c;.,°; oe
without the judges of those courts knowing anYtl37.oo
the subject. lie should move the omission of the
from the Bill.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL; in opposing Ole
omission of the clause, did not deny that considertigst
evils arose in the appoiatment of trustees, and tbfe
fie
that if proper caution were exercised, so as to tnel'efor'
trustees as impartial as possible, the evils might be r ife
died. To effect that object, he had no objection Woe
troduce a chase into the Bill; bat with respect S.',ibo
tribunal itself; he considered it a just one, and hope'
House would adhere to it. set&
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL supported the c'
Alr. TURNER would not divide the Cornmittee.os,
The clause, after a few words from Mr. Dl
was agreed to. so oe'
Mr. SADLEIR said that this Bill concerned - t
ofar
terests -of his constituents very much, and he we 801
what surprised, on entering the house, to find the.,
in Committee. He therefore deemed it his duty to
that the Chairman do now report progress. OS'
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL and 801,101 the
GENERAL opposed the course proposed 1104
Honourable Gentlemen, on the ground that the ,Pla-iber
been now so long before the House, that every 01:000
must be supposed to understand its proposed Prel:ininor
Mr. STUART regarded the Bill as of great "and
tance, involving questions c.f serious consideratier'oetv
trusted that the House would not, on the present
sion, proceed farther with the measure. ti yr,
After a few words from Captain HARRIS 911
DEEDES. moti°6'
Mr. SADLEIR consented to withdraw his -
that the Chairman report progress. elts°
Mr. TURNER'S amendment, " that the 8th - the°
be omitted," was then put, and the Committee
divided, when there appeared— 16

For the amendment
Against it ...
Majority against the amendment •••
The clause was then agreed to.
EXCLUSION FRONI A DIVISION; the:
Mr. ELLIOT complained that he and twe's.;- °
,13
Memt:ers had bien shut out from the division beforewh
just taken place. The doors must have been shut slos
the division bell way rung, and, on presenting thered to
for admission to the House, the door-keeper re' cabers
!et them in. He th9tlglat the shutting out of
in this may was a seri )us matter. td heir
Several of the excluded Members expresse
opinions on the matter, and se, be
The CHAIRMAN said, if such were the case,
gall
would speak to the Sergeant-at-Arms, wbo, be WI
certain, would not suffels it to occur again. ,is °ell
[How the lion. Members would have votou
known to emselv
Clause 9, th
a 3 am ended,
was then agreed t°,°-
5 Here
clauses 10 to 17 inelcsive. og 07, /8'
Clauses 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, I's' 251 ,

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29, 30, 31, and 32, were agreed to. •
OnclssousLei3c3ihreoinLrGeEnds,
The ERAL p
ing ad d i Lion to it, whi ch WtlSagreed
Lord Chancellor, with the advicea-and stanceassicez the
said, shall from time to time fix and,_detmer:sl the
amount of the fees to be received in tee °---- Ca Its
Masters, and also by the officers of the Count). -etiory
fo the duties to be performed by them
fees 80 PAY
with
der the provisions of this Act; and the
61,101 be appropriated us the Lord Chancellor shlll',rir
the content of the C)mnaissioners of her INDjesq 6., pro-
sury, think fit to direct_; and the fees upon over' 'De
r
ceeding under this Act shall be paid, in the first insta,,ed.
by the party by whom or ou whose behalf such proev
ing shall be taken or had."
Clause 34 was agrsed to. nosea
On clause 35 the SOLICITOR-GENERAL ping of
ectively
abo
to introduce an arneudmens respecting
the accounts of such trusts, which was in eff',6 i .
there should be rendered " annually or oftener.- did
the render that
Mr. TURNER objected to the amendment, as i
also Capr. HARRIS. ~ tsau
The clause was agreed to with the amendreen'ti nuoe
the remaining clauses havirg been passed, the ' oa
re.nmed, End the Bill 1516 ordered -to be repot
t°
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