The Sun.
London, England, 1868-07-23 00:00:00

REPRESENTA77ON OF TVES72IIINSTER. seconded, "That considering the unsatisfactory
answers given by Mr. Mill and Captain Grosvenor,
A meeting was held yesterday evening at St. and their conduct generally
.in Parliament,. thjs
.fames 's Hall to hear addresses from the Hon. R. meeting feels they are not suitable men to re pie-.
W. Grosvenor and Mr. J. S. Mill, the members for
sent the city of Westminster in the reformed Par-
Westminster. Eight o'clock was the time appointed liament."
for the commencement of the proceedings. At that The amendment was put by the Chairman, and
time the platform was well filled, and the side gal-
declared to be rejected by an overwhelming majority,
levies were partially lined by a number of ladies. A and the original motion was carried.
few minutes after eight the Hon. Capt. Grosvenor
Mrs. Liar came forward upon the platform to
and Mr. Mill, and their friends, made their appear- address the meeting, and expressed her satisfaction
ante on the platform, and were received with warm at the conduct of Captain Grosvenor, and of Mr.
demonstrations of applause.
Captain GROSVENOR was warmly received, and Mill during his three years' of Parliamentary
life. It had been said that Mr. Mill had
obeerved that during the time he had enjoyed the " crotchets," and she considered that to be his
honour of representing Westminster he had not re- be=t qualification for the office to which ho
ceived a single letter to criticise or influence his vote had been chosen. Why should women in other
on any subject of national importance. The last ses- parts of England ho electors, and those in West-
sion had been a most important one, and they had
tninster be debarred from such a privilege? She
been gathering the seeds sown in 1832. Many
represented 100,00) seamstresses in the metropolis,
members were returned to the last Parliament who and 50,000 oppressed seamstresses that were earn-
were excellent Palmerstonians, but who did not ins* most wretched remuneration. If they wanted
understand the position which was to be taken up to improve education iu the country, let the women
by the Liberal party under Mr. Gladstone. As re- be properly educated.
garded the Liberal party—after the accession of the Mr. G. Porrse wished to say that the Con-
Tory Government—they were only too glad to ac- servatives might hold their meetings when they
cept any scheme, come from what quarter it might, liked, but he asked that they should not come and
which would produce an effectual settlement of the disturb Liberal meetings. Upon the issue of the
long-agitated question of Parliamentary reform. To election at Westminster many elections would de-
the improvement of the bill, Mr. Gladstone—(loud pend, and he was confident that the Liberals would
cheers and some confusion) directed the powers of be returned.
his incisive eloquence, and the result of his efforts Mr. Mason Jones moved, and Professor Fawcett,
had been manifest. As regarded the exclusion of the seconded a vote of thanks to the chairman,
compound householders from the vote, unless the Le- which was carried uuanimously, and acknowledged
gislature was prepared to retrace its steps, the Reform by Dr. Brewer.
Bill of 1867 would only have the effect of substi-
tuting one kind of agitation fir another. The com-
pound householder was sacrificed to a Minister in
distress. He rejoiced at the success which had at-
tended the efforts of the Abyssinian expedition
under Lord Napier of Magdala. (Hear, hear.) As
regarded Ireland, she must not be treated like a
conquered dependency, but like an integral part of
the empire, and in a manner involving all the re-
sponsibilities of civilized government. Ile wished
to speak of the Fenian conspiracy with the contempt
it deserved, but both of the great parties in the State
were convinced that the attention of Parliament
should be directed to remedying the evils of Ireland.
Mr. Gladstone brought forward a resolution to get
rid of the galling grievance of the Irish Church.
Lord Stauley—(cheers and counter cheers)—a
noble lord against whom he had not a word to say
—(hear, hear)—except that the Tories always put
him forward whenever they wanted to impart a spe-
cious air to their policy—moved an amendment.
(Counter cheers.) But on this question, the Foreign
Secretary, the Home Secretary, and the Prime
Minister contradicted each other. (Hear, hear.) The
union between Church and State might be a very
wise, but it was a perfectly political, institution.
(Interruption, followed by loud cheers.) Ile denied
that the fate of the Established Church in this
country was involved in the safety of that of the
sister Church in Ireland. He should have been
glad, if time permitted, to enter into other ques-
tions, but he felt that he must be brief. He would
ask, however, by Vo horn the question of church rates
was deprived of its sting? Ile desired to secure
the opening not only of the doors bat the founda-
tions of the great universities to the great body of
the people. (Hear, hear.) Ile considered that, as
regarded both their military and educational sys-
tems, much watchfulness was needed. lie deplored
the display of political immorality manifeste I by
members of the present Government, which, he
thought, was very much in contrast with the con-
duct of their opponents.. Ile hoped that they would
all unite in marching to victory under the Liberal
banner. (Loud and continued cheers.)
Mr. MILL (who secured an enthusiastic recep-
tion) said that his hon. colleague and himself might
be supposed to represent different sections of the
great Liberal party, but he hoped that the electors
would prefer either of them to a Tory. (Loud
cheers, and some confusion.) His hon. colleague
had addressed himself to the past, he would address
himself to the future. They were assembled uncle:
new circumstances. A great change had been male
in the constituencies, and they Wolin be asked
what they intended to do with their new power ?
Did they intend that the power extended ti them
should bring forth any new effort ? Was there b
he any improvement in the administration of the
new Government? If they were indifferent to their
interests, other people would be so to ; but if the.
intended that the Government should be able t
deal with the great political and social
pressing upon them now was the time for them tai
bestir themselves. If they would will what shoul
be done they might depend upon it that the ac;
would follow. So it had been with the corn-laws
and so it would be with the Church of Ireland. The
thing might be done almost as easily as it could be
said. But, besides abolishing bad laws, the nation
had to make good ones. (Rear, hear.) They bad
to deal with a richer, a more struggling, a more
crowded society than our ancestors could have
imagined. There were a hundred evils which had
sprung up with which philanthropy would be called
upon to deal. The public should endeavour to find
out the men who were fitted to carry out this work.
(Hear, hear.) Another important matter to be con-
sidered was the relation between capital and labour ;
and again they would be called upon to look at
pauperism and the poor law itself. (Hear.) They
were determined that the people should have a good
education, let it cost what it might. (Cheers.) There
were schools enough to give education, but they did
not do their work because the schoolmasters were
either unable or unwilling to do all that they might.
Until national education was put in the hands of
men well fitted for the work they would not find
themselves in a sound position. (Hear, hear.) As
regarded their national defence, it might be secured
effectively at a fraction of the present cost. In
every department of the Government the great want
was of capable men, and it was necessary that the
House of Commons should supply these capable
men. The people of this country bad such an op
portunity as had never been afforded them since
the time of the Commonwealth. (Loud cheers.)
They should send men to Parliament who could
help Mr. Gladstone. (Cheers.) At the present
time there was a peculiar duty placed upon the
public to find the best men. He hoped that those
who were sent to Parliament would bring something
more than money bags and pledges. (Hear, hear.)
lie should desire to be represented by some one who
could tell him what ought to be done. The new
electors would be responsible to posterity, to the
non-electors, and to the inhabitants of our depen-
dencies, kir the use they might make of the fran
chise, and if they did not use their power properly,
the changes to be desired would come to pass
more slowly than there was now reason to hope.
(Great cheering.)
Several questions were then addressed to Captain
Grosvenor and Mr. Mill, who expressed themselves
in favour of a poor-rate for the whole of the metro-
polis, and for a reduction of military expenditure
As regarded the opening of museums and similar
places on Sunday, Captain Grosvenor said he fel
the difficulty of the question, and was not prepare.,
to give any pledge. The bent of his wishes would bt
not to open places of amusement ou that day, or tod
any thing tending to a profanation of the Sabbath.
(Cheers.) Mr. Mill would, for himself, be ready
to open on any day places of instructive amusement
—(hear, hear,)—but to open them in the present
state of the public mind would offend many good
people. In reply to a question respecting the dis-
tribution of the funds of the Irish Church, in cast
of their alienation, Captain Grosvenor said h.
thought they might have to be devoted for the purr
pose of various religions; au .l Mr. Mill stated that
be should oppose the app'ication of any of thes.
funds to any sectarian perposes.
Mr. PROBTN moved, and Mr. J. BEAL seconded
—" That this meeting expresses its entire approba•
tion of the faithful services which the two repre-
sentativ.s of the city of Westminster, the lion. It
W. Grosvenor, M.P., and John Stuart Mill, Esq.
.NI.P., have rendered to their constituency. Tha'
this meeting tenders them its warmest thanks, and
resolves to do all in its power to return them to
Parliament at the ensuing election."
On the motion being put much confusion ensued,
and ultimately an amendment was proposed and

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HER MAJESTY.

OSBORNE, July 22.
The Queen, accompanied by the Duchess of
Coburg, drove out yesterday afternoon.
The Queen, accompanied by Prifice and Princes.;
Louis of Hesse, Prince and Princess Christian, Prin-
cess Louise, Prince Leopold, and Princess Beatrice
walked in the grounds this morning.