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London, England, 1844-08-01 00:00:00

SAVINGS' BANKS BILL,

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
. the third reading of the Savings' Banks Bill ; upon which
Mr. HUME said he had two clauses to propose, to
which he hoped the Riga Hon. Gentleman would have
no objection. The object of the clauses was to prevent
the great increase which was at present taking place in
the amount of deposits, and to confine those establish-
ments to the use for which they were originally intended.
The clauses which he wished to propose were—,a clause,
that deposits shall not exceed 20L in any one year; also
a clause, that w hen investment amounts to 1501., interest to
cease. He-admitted that the Bill was a better Bill than
the last. The only fault in it was that it did not go far
enough.
On the motion that the first clause be read a second
time,

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
thought it would be inexpedient to accede to the propo-
sition of the Hon. Gentleman. If the amount of deposits
to be received by the savings' banks was reduced to
201., he thought it would prejudice those very persons
whom it was the object of the Hon. Gentleman to bene-
fit. With regard to the second clause, also, he thought it
would be inexpedient to limit the Wire of a person's
deposits to 150/. The Hon. Gentleman was in error in
supposing that savings' banks were originally intended
to benefit the lowest order of persons. There were per-
sons in a more respectable station, as the children of
poor clergymen, who, he thought, were legitimate ob-
jects to receive the benefits of savings Thanks.
Mr. AGLIONBY was sorry that the Right Hon.
Gentleman had not acceded to the second proposition of
the Hon. Member for Montrose.

Mr. DIVETT concurred in the view taken by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer with rtgard to this sub-
ject, and thought that the class of persons who saved
150/. were just the class of persons whom it was the
object of the Savings Banks' Act to benefit.
The gallery was then cleared for a division, but none
took place, the clauses having been negatived without a
division.
The Bill was then read a third time.

On the motion that the Bill do pass,
Mr. HAWES said he wished to know from the Right
Hon. Gentleman whether he would on a future occasion
cause an inquiry to be made into the- expenses of
managing savings' banks, and if the result showed that
they cou.d be conducted at a less expense than that at
which they appeared to be managed, whether he would
reconsider the amount of allowance to be made to the
trustees?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
should first like to see how the measure worked. He
would not then object to make the inquiry to which the
Hon. Gentleman referred.

The Bill was then passed.
MARRIAGES (IRELAND) BILL.

On the motion that this Bill be committed.
Colonel RAW DON said he acknowledged this mea-
sure as; a remedial measure, but he thought the Go-
vernment brought it in more as a matter of expediency
than as a matter of right. -It should have been brought
in at an earlier period of the session. On the part of the
Presbyterians of Ireland, he would say that no gratitude
was due to the Government for this measure.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the Bill was under the
consideration of the Government for a long time. It had
been submitted to a Committee of the House of Lords,
composed of several learned personages in that House.
It was true the Bill was delayed for a long time, but
that was owing to communications 'which had taken place
with the Presbyterians, and he had hoped, until he heard
the Hon. Gentleman, that the Bill was most satisfactory
to the Presbyterians.—(Hear, hear.) As to the grati.
tude which the Hon. Gentleman talked of, the Govern-
ment wanted the gratitude of no party. . They wishcd
merely to satisfy the reasonable wants and desirys of all
parties. _ _ _

- Mr. BOUVERIE was glad that this Bill was intro-
duced, which he thought was a just one ; but he thought
that a syatem of registration ought to be combined
with it.

Mr. SHAW did not think the Presbyterians had a
right to complain.--(llear, hear.) If any party objected
to the Bill, it should have been the Established Church ;
but they did not object, because they thought the mea-
sure just.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL was very glad that a Bill of
this kind was introduced, but he did not think it was
right that this Bill, and other important measures,
should be delayed till a late period in the session, and
that the Government should then throw the responsibi-
lity of rejecting them on the House of Commons. In
-consequence of introducing Bills at so late a period, the
House of Commons would only have to register the
edicts of the House of Lords. It would have to give a
form and sanction to those measures which the Crown
required, but that part of the Constitption which en-
joined on the House of Commons the duty of consider-
ing measures would appear to be abrogated.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was
surprised at what had fallen from the Noble Lord, who
must be well acquainted with the 'ipaode in which public
business was conducted. Suiely. the Noble Lord would
not contend that this Bill and. other Bills should receive
the fullest consideration from those who were to be af-
fected by it, and from both Houses of Parliament. If
such a principle were once recognised it would almost
put an end to all deliberative legislation.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he only complained that the
House was put to the alternative of rejecting a Bill good
and useful in itself, or passing it without giving time for
due deliberation.

The house then went into Committee, Mr. GREENE
in the Chair.

Clauses from 1 to 4 inclusive were agreed to.
[LEFT BITTING.]

MARKET NEWS.-(THIS DAY.)

13AT_MAR8ETS.

SMITTIFIELD.—Coarse Meadow Hay, 31 10s to 41;
usF-
ful ditto, 41 4s to 4/ 8s; fine Upland ditto, 4/ lOs to 4/ 15s;
Clover Hay, 51 to 6/; Oat Straw, I/ 6s to I/ ;
Wheat Straw, Il 8s to 1/ 108 per load. Trade on the whole
dull at the above quotations. _

CumBERLAND.—Coarse Meadow Hay 31 15s to 4145 ; use-
ful ditto, 41 6s to 4/ 12s ; fine Upland ditto, 4144 s to 41 18s ;
Clover Hay, 4/10s to .5/ 15s ; Oat Straw, 1/ 8s to 1/108 ; Wheat
Straw, 11 lOs to 1/ 12s per load. A moderate supply and a
steady demand.

WHITECHAPEL.—Coarse Meadow Hay, 31103 to 41; use-
Pal ditto, 414 s to 4183; fine Upland ditto, 41103 to 4/ 15s;
Clover Hay, 4/ 12s to 6/ 6s ; 'Oat.Straw. 11 Os to 1/ 8s;
Wheat Straw, 1/ 8s to 11 lOs per load. Supply good, and
trade firm. .

New Meadow Hay produced from 21 lOs to 3/ 12s ; and
New Clover 41 to 515 s per load.

MEI~ T 1% ARBETS.

SotrniALL, • Juii 61.--wcTZTOTaTalTiere to day a full
average time-of-year supply of each kiud of meat, while the
demand was, throughout, heavy, at barely last week's
quotations. Beef, from 3s 2d to 3s 10d ; Mutton, 2s 4d to 4s ;
Lamb, 4s to 4s 10d ; Veal, 3s 4d to 4s; and Pork, Zto 4s
3s 8d per 81bs. Supply—Beasts, 41; Sheep and 'Lambs,
3,546; Calves, 40; Pigs, 50.
ROMFOIM, JULY 31.--Prime Mutton was in:demand at
full prices. In other kinds of stock next to nothing was
doing. Beef, from 2s 8d to 3s 8d ; Mutton, 2s 104 to 4s;
Lamb, 4s to• 5s ; Veal, Ss 4d to 4s ; and Pork, 23-4 d to
3s 6d per Sibs. Sucking Calves, 18s to 3.35; Quarter-old
Store Pigs, 16s to 20s; and, Milcb Cows, with their, small
calf, 16/ to 19/ each. •

JULY 30.—Beef, from 2s 8d to 3s 10d ; Mutton,
2810 d to 4s ; Lamb, 3s 10d to 4s 8d ; Veal, 3s 4d to 3s 10d ; and
Pork, 2s 6d to 3s 6d per Blbs. Supply but moderate,*td
trade dull.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS
LONDON, AUG. I.—Wind, strong westerly breeze and
cloudy. It blew strong with squalls last night.
OFF MARGATE, JULY 31. —Eliza, Baker, St. Vincent's.

.—WP.M.DEAL, JULY 31ind A.M. W.N.W., P.M N.W., fresh. and
squally.—Arrd. Anwata, Brown, Batavia for Rotterdam ;
Active, New York for Stettin ; Barbara Gordon, Ritchie,
Tobago ; Lady Hilda, Rounce, Barbadoes ; Margaret Rent,
Coffin, South Seam; Sarah, Behan, St. John's, New Bruns-
wick ; Asia, Greelores, and Imogen, Quebec ; Wakefield,
Hall, St. John's, New Brunswick ; Lady Seaton and
Sultana, Montreal ; Fear Not, Nassau ; 'Emma Searle,
Hogan, Prince Edward's Island ; Ottawa, Montreal, put
back ; Duke of Roxburgh for the Cape and Madras. Sid.
Switzerland, New York. The Ottawa, in the Downs, from
Montreal, passed several small icebergs, 9th inst., lat. 46, lon.
47. The Dutch ship Elizabeth and Autionette, proceeded to
London for repair.

THE FUNDS-(CLOSING PRICES.)
BRITISH FUNDS.

_ _ -----
Bank Stock --lOC- Indian Stock.,... -. .. ~.....
• 3 per Cent. Red
3 per Cent. Cons. .....«.....
103 99 ~DDiittttoo
sOeldw ies AAnnnnuultities
.....
N per Cent. Red
New 3% per Cent. 102% Ex. Bills, 1,0001. 11id... 77 pm.
New 5 per Cent. --1 Ditto 5001
Long Annuities to expire Ditto Small .. :
Jan 186 V l2 9.16 f Bank Stock for Acct.... ._
Oct. 1853 — ;Consols for Act. 99%
Jan. 1860 FOREIGN FUNDS !India Stock for Acct... •
Austrian, 5 per Cent — IPortuguese,s per Cent B2
Belgian, 5 per Cent. .... .... —. Ditto, New Ditto —
Brazilian Bonds
Buenos Ayres, 6 per Cent — .Russian 5 per Cent —
Chilian, 6 per Cent Ditto,Metallic
Colombian, 6 per Cent
Ditto, 1824..«..« • — Ditto, 3 per Cent 33
Cuba Bonds, 6 per Cent...... Ditto, Deferred —
Danish, 3 per Cent ... ...... ... ,French, 5 tier Cent. —4 —e.
Greek, 16.5,5 per Cent. • 'Exchange .... .. ..a... —I —c..
Mexican, 5 per Cent -% French, 3 per ..... .—f. —e.
Ditto, ti per Cent., 1837. — Dutch, 2g per Cent 61%
Peruvian, 1825, 6 per Cent... 26 Ditto, 5 per Cent lOO%
SARE
Birmingham and GloucesH
ter (100s.
paid) ' 111
Ditto, New &mice, 17% paid 27%
Bristol and Gloucester, 30 paid
Dublin and Cashel, 2% paid
Eastern Counties (23 paid)
• Ditto Registered (816$ &I paid)
Great North of England, 100 paid
Ditto. New Shares ( A paid)
Great Western (75 paid) -
Ditto Filths. :2 paid
London and Blackwall (16/, 13s. 4d.) 753
London and Greenwich (1-1. 1:-s. 4d. paid) ......
Lendeeand South Western (ill. 6s. 10d. paid) BB
Ditto Eighths (15s. paid)
London and Croydon (Trunk)
Manckester and 'Leeds (70 paid
Ditto, Half shares, ::0 paid
Midland Counties (160 paid) ...... .... ....
Newcristle and Darlirigron Junction, ......
21 paid 394
North british, 2% paid IN
Northern and Emlern (45 paid)
Ditto Scrip (15 paid) 23
Ditto Quarter Shares ( 2% paid)
South lantern and Dover (33 2s 4d paid)
Ditto New Shares, e, (mid
Yarmouth and Norwich (16 paid)
York and North Midland (50
E a mit') . lis
Ditto Half Shares (25 paid)
.. •11111.9190 55
Origin', TOWN gid ZAttde4UX, I paid •
" „. .... .. 54
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After the distribution of prizes to successful competitors "'
the late exhibition at Paris, the King gave a grand enter-
tainment on Monday in the Palace of the Tuileries to about
200 of the principal exhibitors. The number of prizes
awarded was six hundred; one hundred gold medals, two
hundred silver medals, and three hundred bronze medals.
Some of the most meritorious and distinguished exhibitors
were.made Chevaliers of the Legion of Honour.
The Toulon papers state that several ships of Admiral Per-
seval's divi*ion will very shortly leave Toulon. They are, it
is said, to rendezvous at Brest, and be ready to escort the
King to the shores of England.
Admiral Hamelin,. who is to succeed M. Dupetit Thouars
in the command of the French station in the Pacific, had
sailed from Rochefort in the frigate Virginie.
About a month ago a young Englishman of elegant ad-
dress, arrived at Brussels, and announced Ids intention of
carrying on business there as a banker. He took a hand"
some house, and commenced operations by making large
.purchases of furniture, &c., for which he paid
"in bills signed
by Englishmen, and which lie said he had discounted for the
parties, knowing that his money was safe. It was discovered •
however, to be a plot for robbing the people of Brussels. Ter°
of the parties were arrested, but the principal escaped.
The Helvetie complains of a new violation a the Swiss
territory by French custom-house officers, who, it says, l'ave
crossed the Doubs, 'and seized a citizen of the Canton of ;
Berne, bound him, and carried him into France The Held
adds, that this is the third instance of invash.n for which the
canton has had to demand reparation within the last three
years.
The attempts to discover the grave of Mozart have not
succeeded, but the searches made for it have disclosed that
of Gluck, which has been found in the cemetery of Watzleins-
dorf, at Vienna. It is covered by a slab, now broken in the
middle, and obscured with moss, behind a splendid mono"
ment, erected to the memory of a rich banker. It bears the-
following modest inscription—" Here lies an honest German,
a good Christian, and a faithfulhusband, Cristophe Chevalier
de Gluck, Master of the Art of Music. He died on the 101
November, 1787."
A letter from Chambdry states that M. Bravais, Professor
of Astronomy at Lyons, and M. Martins, Professor of Natural
History at Paris, intended ascending Mont Blanc, and re'
maining there six days, if possible, for the purpose of re-
solving several scientific questions. Observations are to be
taken during their stay at Chambery, Geneva, the Grand St.
Bernard, and other places, in order to be compared with
those taken above, They purposed arriving at the summit.
of Mont Blanc on the 27th inst., or, if the weather was
favourable, some days later.
Nearly one-third of the town of Landshut, in Bavaria, vas
destroyed by fire oa the 20th. Two hundred families *ere
deprived of their homes.
The Geological Society of France will hold this year its
annual meeting extraordinary on August 12, at Chain'
Wry, in Savoy. The Viscount d'Archiac de St. Simon; the
President, has. addressed a circular to the members, re-
minding them of the peculiar interest offered to their study
in the environs of the town; and also announcing that the.
King of Sardinia, appreciating the services rendered to
science by the former meetings of the Society, had most
graciously given his permission for this special Assembly iii ,
his States.