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NOTICES OF MOTION.

Mr. GILL gave notice that on Friday next he would
call the attention of the House to the ciremiistances of
the arrest of Capt. Brewster, of the 76th regiment, in
July last.
Mr. lIUME gave notice that after Easter he should
submit a motion to the House, that a humble address be
presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to abo-
lish the tord-Lieutenancy of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. BORTHWICK gave notice that on that day
fortnight he would move that a humble address be pre-
sented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty would.
be graciously pleased to direct that Parliament in all
matters ecclesiastical should receive the advice of the
clergy in convocation assembled, according to the con-
stitutional and ancient practice of this realm.
CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS.
Sir ROBERT PEEL gave notice that, on an early
day, he should move for the appointment of a Committee,
to inquire and report whether it was desirable that any
alteration should be made in the law respecting contro-
verted elections.

IRELAND.
Mr. MORE O'FERRALL rose to ask the following
questions, namely:-1. Whether it was the intention of
her Majesty's Government to
.introduce any measure
during the present session to carry into effect all orany of
the recommendations contained in the Report of a Com-
mission, appointed to revise the several laws under, or by
virtue of which moneys are now raised by grand jury pre-
sentment in Ireland, more particularly as relates to the
recommendation to effect a saving of 160,0001. in the ex-
penditure of the county rates in Ireland? (See Parlia-
mentary Paper, No. 386, of Session 1842.) 2. Whether
any steps have been taken consequent on the Report of
the Commissioners of Inquiry, in respect to the convict
department of Kilmainham prison, which established
the fact of great extravagance and misapplication of
public moneys, under the Inspector of Prisons? (See Par-
liamentary Paper, N 0.547, of Session 1843.) 3. Whether it
was the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce
a measure founded on the report of the commission .ap-
pointed to inquire into the common law courts in Ire-
land ? (See Parliamentary Paper, No. 378, of Session
1842.) 4. Whether itwas the intention of her Majesty's
Government to introduce any measure during the present
session relative to ministers' money in Ireland ?
Lord ELIOT said the alteration and revision of the
grand jury laws in Ireland, was an important and diffi-
cult subject. With.respect to the adoption of the re •
coirynendation of the Commissioners, to which the Hon.
Gentleman referred, he. (Lord Eliot) could assure him,
that very considerable diversity of opinion prevailed in

Ireland.- He was quite sure that if any measure were
to be based on that recommendation, it would fail to
meet with the support of county Members. He
would remind the Hon. Gentleman that there was at that
moment on the table of the House, an experimental mea-
sure which was to be applicable to the county of Dublin.
That Bill had been formed with the intention of embody-
ing a great portion of the recommendations of the
Commissioners. And he (Lord Eliot) hoped that it
would become law in the course of the present session,
for he thought it was very desirable that the House
should ascertain the result of that experiment before they
proceeded to apply a general measure of that description
to a!l.the counties of _lreland, He did not complain of
the nay in which the Hon. Gentleman had put his ques-
tion, but they appeared to him (Lord Eliot) to
partake of the nature of a statement. The
Honourable Gentle Man had referred particularly to
the recommendation of the Commissioners, having
for its object the saving of 160,0001. per annum.
There were several instances in which money had been
saved. In one ea:e 12,0001. had been saved out of fines
and penalties. A sum of 16,0001 had been saved in the
county of Dublin. He did not think that any legislation
was necessary on the subject if the recommendations of
the Commissioners were carried into effect. With re-
gard to the second question, he begged to say
that it was the intention of the Government to provide
a separate place for convicts before their embarkation.
With regard to the third question, whether it was the
intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce any
measure relating to the common-law courts, he begged
to say that her Majesty's Government were not prepared
with any measure on the subject.
question to put
FACTOItIES BILL.
the Dorsetshire; he
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wished to ask what was his intention with respect to the
amendment he had introduced into the Factories Bill?
He wished to know from the Noble Lord what course
he intended to pursue. •
Lord ASHLEY said—lt is my most sincere and ar-
dent desire to make any sacrifice of personal feeling, in
order to do what may to the utmost conciliate
my opponents, and render the amendment it was
my good fortune to carry as little objectionable as pos-
sible. This morning, 1 had an interview with five or
six considerable manufacturers, and likewise with several
operatives, who represented the feelings of the operative
manufacturing classes. I proposed to them a plan which
am about to state to the House, and I am happy
to. say that it m
• et their entire and hearty
concurrence. On Friday next I shall take the liberty
of entreating the House to affirm the proposition of ten
hours'.laboulby the substitution of the word "ten"
for "twelve"' in clause Bof the Bill. Should the House
affirm that proposition, I will prepare a clause which
shall enact that the present duration of labour, twelve
hours, shall continue from the time at which we may
pass the clause for six months, till the Ist of October in
this year. This will give six months' notice before any
change takes place. From the Ist of October, this
year, the period of labour I propose shall fall down to
orrie fur=, and continue at that rate for two years, or
611 the 12th of October, 1846, when the period of
ten hours' labour shall commence. This will give
ample time to test the experiment, and during
the course of that time should any mischief rise
out of the enactment, the House would have the means
in its own hands of preventing the clause from runing
away with the interests of the manufacturers. The
clause shall be prepared the day before the House goes
into Committee, that Hon. Members may see the pre-
cise wording of proposition I intend to make.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, that though it was not
quite regular on his part to address the House, perhaps
he should be pardoned if he said a few words. In the
first place, it was most desirable that the House and the
country should. understand that he, and her Majesty's
Ministers had now heard for the first time, the propo-
sitions which the Noble Lord (Lord Ashley) had
expressed his intention of submitting to the Committee ;
but he (Sir J. Graham) had no hesitation in coming to
the conclusion that it would be his duty on Friday next
to resist the _motion of the Noble Lord, and take the
sense of the House upon the proposition of substitut-
ing " ten hours " fur " twelve." He might be
permitted to add, with respect to the further
proposition which the Noble Lord contemplated
making, should the Noble Lord succeed in carry-
ing it, as he had his other proposal last night, the
scope of that proposition had not removed the objection
which he (Sir J. Graham) had urged against the other
proposal, and it would be his duty to resist it to the
utmost.

ROYAL PROGRESS.
Captain RODS said that there was a report very
prevalent that her Majesty intended, about the month of
lay to proceed to Berlin, on a visit the King of Prussia.
As such a proceeding on the part of her Majesty would
materially affect the interests of a great portion of his
constituents, he wished to know from the Right Hon.
Gentleman whether there was any foundation for the
rumour ?
Sir ROBERT PEEL said that really there were
so many reports abroad, totally destitute of foun-
dation, that he must protest against the practice of
requiring a Minister of the Crown to find answers for
these Reports. It really gave a sort of sanction to these
Reports which was by no means proper. But as the
Hon. Gentleman had said that he had heard the Reports