The Sun.
London, England, 1868-04-21 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 21, 1868.

inaction. It is the more satisfactory that matters
have progressed so far, because the severity of the
climate is beginning to make itself felt, and rain
and thundeAstorms have been frequent. We shall
look with eagerness for the next intelligence, which
will probably reach us before many days are over.

lir. CHARLES DICKENS has made a most success-
'Jul affair of his visit to America, and has reaped
golden opinions from all sorts of men. Now that
his departure is at hand he feels natural regret at
quitting a country where he has been so warmly
welcomed and so hospitably received. We learn by
a despatch from Boston, dated the Bth inst., that
he gave his final reading there in Tremont Temple
before a very numerous audience. The applause he
met with was most hearty, and the reading table
was decorated with flowers in the most beautiful
manner. Mr. DICKENS read " Dr. Marigold" and

" Sairey Garnp," with his usual spirit, and after the
reading was over made a brief but impressive address
to his friends. Strange to say, he commenced his
labours in Boston on arriving in America, and as
he put it, " My previous and generous welcome in
America, which can never be obliterated from my
remembrance, began here ;" and, he added, that his
departure began there too, for not until that mo-
ment had he felt that he was actually going away.
As Mr. DICKEN'S said very truly, "It is always sad
in this short life of ours to do anything for the last
time; and even though, when he turned from them, he
was about to revisit his own native land, and all that
made home dear, still the thought, the place before
him, and all that it contained, would have vanished
from before him for ever more, was indeed a sad con-
sideration. Of course we must take the rough with
the smooth, and when there is enjoyment of any
kind there is sure to be some countervailing influ-
ence. In this instance it may be fairly said that the
bright side is the most imposing, for it will cast an
influence over the future, and, as it is said in this
speech we are alluding to, "It is my consolation
that the spirit of the bright faces, the quick per-
ception, the ready replies, the generous allowance,
and the cheering sounds that have made this place
joyful to me, will remain, and you may
rely upon it that spirit will abide with me
as long as I have the sense and sentiment of life."
In some respects this visit of Mr. DICKENS to our
transatlantic brethren is an era in our literature,

for there has not been anything exactly like it
before ; and while it will long live in his own
grateful recollection and the minds of those who
have thronged around him in the far West, it may
also be looked upon as in some sort a landmark in
our literature, for it has served as a connecting link
between the thinking minds of that nation ; and
after all the angry sentiments that have been enter-
tained, and the unfortunate events that have taken
place respecting Fenianisna and other matters,
it is a relief to turn to a more genial
atmosphere and dwell on more grateful themes.
The friendly feelings, the congeniality of taste, the
reciprocity of interest, and the refining influences
that have been called forth by this visit of our great
humourist and novelist across the Atlantic have
been of especial service, and we may well believe
that their effect will not pass away, but remain
to do all their good work when the subject of the
admiration thus kindled has returned to his distant
home.

Among all the disturbing and distracting influ-
ences that unfortunately prevailed to render our rela-
tions with the Americans at least anything but sa-
tisfactory, it is amazing to learn that on one point
we are equal, and even identical, in taste and
feeling. Literature can do wonders in making
the crooked straight and the rough places smooth,
and the more the soothing effects of its agency
prevail the better and more enduring will be the
respect and regard that Englishmen and Ameri-
cans will entertain for each other. It has been well
said of the triumphs of the Saxon tongue—
It climbs Now England's rocky steep as victor mounts a
throne;
Niagara hears, and owns the voice still mightier than its
own.

So we may trast that hereafter a better spirit may
prevail, and, despite the jarring influences that
must sometimes hold sway, the great Republic
may recognise what is great and good in the
mother country, even when the points that
attract admiration may not be indigenous to their
own soil. Force and violence can never do any-
thing in the way of conciliation, and men must
agree to differ if they would, in a true and fair
spirit, fulfil the mission entrusted to them, and
carry on the great work of elevating and improv-
ing the human race so far as they can in their day
and generation. As for Mr. DICKENS himself, this
visit to America has been a great success, both in a
personal sense and in aliterary one also ; and he may
feel as if he had now reached to heights that at one
time would have seemed unattainable, or at best
only fitted to adorn and enliven the dream of the
enthusiast in his youthful romance. In taking his
farewell of the assembly at Boston, he declared that
his remarks bore no reference to the private friend-
ships that had long made the name of that city dear
to him, but that his language belonged to the pub-
lic place irrespective of private associations. " I
say it purely in rememberance of, and in homage
to, the great public heart before me. Ladies and
gentlemen, I beg most earnestly, most gratefully,
and most affectionately to bid you each and all fare-
well." It has been said that to live in hearts we
leave behind is not to die, and so Mr. DICKENS may
feel that he does not altogether take leave of his
friends and admirers across the Atlantic or quitting
the shores of America. His visit will have asso-
ciated him still more closely and intimately with
them than he could possibly have been before,
and they in their turn will influence others. Short
as his visit has been, comparatively speaking, it has
been replete with such striking events and incidents
that it required to occupy a larger space of time,
and in the spirit of the thing, which is after
all most vital to consider, it has far
more than realised all that was expected or
hoped for in England. For many reasons, then,
we may rejoice at the result of this experiment, and
while we feel flattered at the tribute that America
has paid to us in the homage she has given to our
representative, we can also look upon the affair in
a broader sense and with a more elevated view than
any that can be bounded by ties of home or country,
for literature is in a measure independent of such
considerations, and makes all men brothers and all
countries common ground, while she exercises her
speech and exerts her influence.

The telegrams from Washington report that the
House of Representatives are determined to pro-
ceed vigorously in their legislative reforms. Yes-
terday, by 99 votes against 5, they passed a bill
of an extraordinary kind, whose object appears to
be to provide a cases belli with European Govern-
ments. It has been supposed that the Americans,
like the English, were inclined to alter and amend
the troublesome doctrine of perpetual allegiance,
with the view of giving greater freedom to indi-
viduals, and removing a burden from rulers. But
the manner in which the House of Representa-
tives propose to proceed is curiously one-sided.
Mr. BANKS'S Bill, passed by such an overwhelming
majority, enacts that any decision of officers of the
United States Government questioning the right of

expatriation is null and void ; that all naturalised
citizens of the States shall be entitled to the same
protection as native-born citizens ; and last, but not
least, that when any citizen of the States is arrested
by a foreign Government, on the ground of his
allegiance to his native Sovereign, the PRESIDENT
shall be empowered to order the arrest of any subject
of such foreign Goya nment who may be found
within the jurisdiction of the United States,
By the wording of this bill,ltherefore, if an Irish-
American be detained by the British Government
the PRESIDENT of the United States will have the
right in the view of Congress to imprison the
British Ambassador himself ! This sudden regard
for naturalised citizens has no ground in recent
events, unless the temporary detention of Mr.
TRAIN has brought about the measure. It has
been proposed that a thorough examination of the
neutrality laws in both countries shall be undertaken
by prudent and moderate counsellors, with a view to
simplification and amendment of international law,
but this random and sweeping change in a matter
of such importance entirely fails to remove existing
difficulties, or to prevent the possibility of future
complications.

LATEST INTELL WINCE.

THE ABYSSINIAN EXPEDITION.

We (the Times) have received the following tele-
grams from our Special Correspondent with the

Expedition :

MARCII 22.

The head-quarters of the expeditionary force are
to-day at Lat.
The British forces are marching rapidly towards
Magdala in three brigades, without baggage. The
first brigade is under the command of Colonel Mil-
w ard .
Spies report t hat the enemy is distant about 60
miles.
The prisoners report that King Theodore will leave
Magdala, but azcording to the accounts of spies he
will make a stand at that place.

MARCH 29.

The head-quarters are to-day on the high
ground at Redela (?). The 2d and 3d Brigades are
following close behind.
It is believed that Magdala is about 60 miles
distant.
Our spies report that the enemy will make a stand
at Bhilo. •
•
The enemy is reported to muster 10,000 men,
5,000 being riflemen.
The climate has been very severe, with thunder-
storms and rain.

(REUTER'S TELEGRAMS.)
ZULLA, April 2.

it is stated that Sir Robert Napier has made a
rush on Magdala, in light marching order. He was
expected to be there on the 2d inst., bui the result
is unknown owing to an interruption of the tele-
graph near Senafe.

AUSTRIA.

VIENNA, April 21.

It is stated that C. Skene, the Reporter of the
sub-Finance Committee of the Reichsrath, is about
to propose the rejection of the Government pro-
posal for the consideration of the public debt, and
submit a counter proposition, whereby the whole
public debt, with the exception of the bonds of the
lottery loan, which bear no interest, shall be con-
verted into 4 per Cent. Rentes.

INDIA CHINA, AND AUSTRALIAN MAILS

GIBRALTAR, April 20.

The Bangalore left at 9 p.m. to-day. All well.
She may be expected at Southampton about the
25th inst.

The Baroda left Suez for Bombay at midnight on
the 12th inst.

GREENCASTLE, April 21.
The Canadian steamer Peruvian, from Portland
on the 11th inst., arrived here this morning.

AMERICA.
THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
WASHINGTON, April 20th.

The Impeachment trial was resumed to-day.
The Court refused to receive the testimony of
Secretary Welles and others offered by the counsel
for the defence, to prove that the Cabinet, including
Mr. Stanton, advised President Johnson to veto
the Tenure-of-011ice Bill, and that the Cabinet
bad since agreed that the act was inapplicable
to the case of Mr. Stanton.

The evidence for the defence was concluded, and
will argue in re-
plythe
thereto Managers
on of
l v thee dn prosecutionesday next.
(Per the City of .Antwerp, via Queenstown.)
NEW YORK, April 11.

The Impeachment Trial was resumed on Thurs-
day. The managers offered aE cumulative evidence
testimony that Mr. Johnson bad refused an appli-
cant an official position upon the ground that he
sympathized with Congress. General Butler an-
nounced that the case for the prosecution was
closed.
Judge Curtis opened the case for the defence in a
long speech. He denied that the Tenure of Office
Law was applicable to the case of Mr. Stanton, who
was not appointed by Mr. Johnson, and whose ap-
pointment, under President Lincoln, was made in
1862, only commissioning him to hold office during
the President's pleasure. The Senate confirmed
that appointment, but it could not entitle Mr.
Stanton to hold office until 1869, under a different
President. The Tenure of Office Act admitted
several constructions. Mr. Johnson had acted
under the construction adopted in consonance with
the views of the Cabinet and his constitutional ad-
visers. The charge that Mr. Johnson had conspired
to influence Major-General Emory to violate the
Army Bill was based upon an assumption unsus-
tained by evidence. Mr. Johnson's
speeches did
not denounce Congress, but only a dominant ma-
jority in that body. His speeches were a lawful
exercise of the freedom of speech.
The defence offered the testimony of Adjutant-
General Thomas, relative to his conversation with
Mr. Johnson.
The Managers objected to this evidence being
received, but the Senate voted that it should be ad-
mitted by 42 to 10.
General Thomas deposed that Mr. Johnson never
ordered him to use either force or threats to obtain
possession of the War-office. Under cross-examina-
tion by General Butler, General
Thomas admitted
threatening to use force upon his own responsibility,
and testified that Mr. Johnson recognised him as
Secretary ad interim in the Cabinet meetings.
General Meade has issued an order suspending
the collection of the taxes in Georgia.
Gen. Gillam has refused to recognise the legality
of the Arkansas Legislature.
Mr. Johnson has signed the treaty with the North
German Confederation.

CANADA.
Advices from Canada state that further evidence
has elicited that Whelan was the assassin of Mr.
D'Arcy M'Gee.
The Fenians from Philadelphia, arrested at Mon-
treal, have been charged with complicity. Several
other arrests have been made.
The New York Herald states that a Fenian plot
has been discovered to blow up the house of Par-
liament at Ottawa.
The steamer Seagull has been burnt on Lake
Michigan, Fifty liyes were loot.

ODEREETONDENOE FROM PARIS;

(FROM OUR OWN CORRESPOIMENT.)

PARIS, MONDAY, April 20.

I have nothing very definite to tell you to-day respect-
ing the great question which causes so much anxiety. The
Emperor was to have gone to Rennes to meet his son, and
it was hoped would have made a speech there, but as the
Prince does not stop at the Bretagne capital for the reason
I mentioned yesterday, we are deprived of the new
assurance of the fact so very difficult to believe, that
l'Empire c'est la paix.
One of the papers publishes an item of information which
is significant. Baron von Beust is said to have assured an
eminent financier that he could guarantee peace for three
months. Herein lies the secret of our disquietude. We
have no confidence, no certainty, The form of government
under which we live puts it in the power of one man to
plunge Europe into war, and all the indications are that
he means to do so. It is a question of liberal insti-
tutions at home, or foreign war ; and it is impossible
to deny that the Army Conscription Bill renders
the chances of the latter alternative far greater.
War may not be to-day, nor even this summer, but that it
is contemplated to come off within a few months, no one
doubts ; and the only hope is that something may occur to
put an end to the present armed truce peaceably. The
Emperor is 60 years old to-day, though none of the Paris
journals that I have seen takes notice of the fact. What
a joyful anniversary it would have been if he had an-
nounced his intention of surrendering his autocratic power,
and consenting to rule as a constitutional sovereign over
the people whom he has now governed for nearly twenty
years.

As if to still further discredit the pacific assurances'
of the semi-official journals, never received with much
confidence, those papers have fallen to quarrelling
amongst each other, strenuously contradicting each
other's statements. One says that copies of M.
Baroche's speech have been sent to all the
prefects ; another declares that its contemporary is
misinformed ; whereupon the first tells the second that it
is a journal without circulation, and the second retorts
upon the first that it is a journal without genius. The
Opposition papers, which constitute the great bulk of
journalism, are highly delighted at this exhibition, and
comment upon it with that light and trenchant ridicule of
which French writers are such perfect masters.
M. Veron writes a sarcastic article in the SRCe, entitled

" Pourquoi." After describing the various military pre-
parations, and ending each description with c'est la paix,
he goes on to tell a parable by way of illustrating the
present position of affairs. "An ingenious man," he says,
" came to me, and told me that he had hit upon a
new arrangement for getting rid of all the fuss and ex-
pense of fire insurance offices. 'By my plan,' he remarked,
every citizen will keep a body of firemen lodged and
equipped in his own house, so that if a fire should break
out they will be ready at the first notice." "An excellent
plan," replies M. Wron ; " only, my friend, if at the end
of ten years you should not have had a fire, you will have
spent nearly three times the value of your house upon
your firemen. Perhaps, under these circumstances, it
would be almost better to run the risk of a fire." " You
are a fool," said the inventor, and turned his back upon
M. Wron.

Count Orloff has thought it due to Baron Budberg to
deny in the papers the report that the Czarewitch had
treated the baron with rudeness because he had not
challenged Baron Meyendorff. The count says that the
report is quite unfounded.
Three elections take place next week. At Dordogne,
M. de Malleville is the Liberal candidate, and has issued
an address protesting against official interference. The
Government has brought forward a candidate ; and there
is a third in the person of M. Gibiat,who supports the Govern.
ment, but calls himself independent. At Tarn, the Baron
Decaze also protests against official candidates ; but here
the Opposition party are divided, and a second candidate,
in the person of M. Gorsse, has appeared to do battle
with the Government nominee, M. Gangiran. In the
Seine Inferieure M. D6noyelle is the Liberal, and M.
Corneille, son of the late deputy, is the official candidate.
M. Bosredon is favoured by the Government in Dordogne.
We have bad news from Italy. There is no doubt that
disaffection prevails to an alarming ext:..at, and that, let
the telegraph say what it will, many arrests have been
made. I fear we shall see serious troubles when the flour
tax comes to be enforced.

The statement that Mr. IV. N. Hodgson, mem-
ber of Parliament for Carlisle, was about to retire, is
contradicted.

The Paris correspondent of the Herald mentions as one
satisfactory circumstance, which to a certain extent coun-
terbalances the activity of Marshal Niel, that no prepara-
tions for war are being made in the department of Marine.
Brest, Cherbourg, and Toulon seem to be perfectly quiet, and
though the French navy would without any additional
preparation be in a position to cope with the combined
navies of Prussia and Russia, the correspondent is inclined to
think that the inactivity of Admiral de Genouilly is an indi-
cation that no war will take place this year. He cannot, how-
ever, get over his apprehensions altogether, and in ahurried
p.)stcript expresses considerable anxiety on account of the
following paragraph in the semi-official Etendard, which is
part of an article in reply to one in the Norddeutsehe
Zeitung. The French paper says : "If the fear of war be
so easily excited on our side of the Rhine,. it cannot be
denied, and above all in Prussia, that this sensitiveness of
public opinion is due to the attitude of the German press
last year with reference to the Luxembourg question.
The peace of the world, we have not ceased to repeat, and
we say so once more, depends less on the good-will of
Trance than on the political wisdom of Prussia."

The Berlin correspondent of the Times writes that the
Prussian Government has resolved to take a decisive step
in the Schleswig question. Confidential negotiations
having led to nothing, the question whether the Prussian
terms will be accepted is, without delay, to be officially
put to :Denmark. If, as is to be foreseen, an answer in
the negative is returned, this Government will either
declare that it has done all in its power to carry out the
Prague treaty of peace, and considers itself acquitted of
any further obligation, or it will cause the inhabitants of
the northernmost part of Schleswig to decide by universal
suffrage whether they will join Denmark, and then leave
it to the latter to accept them or not. At any rate, the
business, so far as depends on this Government, is to be
settled immediately.

No organ of the Opposition is so persistent in calling
upon the Government to declare what it means to do as
the Times. On Monday morning it assumed as a certainty
that the Prime Minister would without delay make a
statement to the House of Commons as to the course
upon which the Cabinet had decided after the re.
cent vote. Mr. Disraeli, however, did not open his
lips throughout the sitting, nor was Mr. Gladstone
present during the evening. Angry as was the Times with
the Ministry, its indignation is great against the Opposi-
tion leader for not having at once questioned Mr. Disraeli
as to whether the Government will atonce resign, dissolve,
or go on only with necessary business. Mr. Gladstone is
told to lose no time in eliciting this information, and is
further informed that should he fail to do so, the duty
will be performed by another.

Meetings on either side continue to be held, few of them
presenting special features for comment: One, however,
at Aylesbury, deserves to be noticed. It was a githtring
of clergy and laity, under the presidency of Archdeacon
Bickersteth, prolocutor of the Lower House of Convoca-
tion. The Rev. G. W. Clubbe, vicar of Hughenden, said
that among the many calumnious attacks which were made
on the Prime Minister it was often said, "He may go to
church, but is he a communicant ?" To that he could
reply that for the last seventeen years Mr. Disraeli had
been a constant communicant, and he wished that his
calumniators could have been present on Easter Day and
have seen him kneeling side by side with the humblest man
in the parish.

It is difficult to see what cause is to be served by such
advocates as Mr. Edward Harper. It is still more diffi-
cult to estimate the intellectual calibre of an audience
which could endorse the statements, gravely spade as
sober truth, which were put forward at the Hanover-
square Rooms on Monday night. Mr. Harper assured
his sympathising hearers that " the great topic of the
day was the attempt made to subvert the Protestant
Throne of this country—the disestablishment of our
churches, and the restoration of Popish rule in England.
The result of the disestablishment would be a rupture of
the union between the two countries. Instead of being a
united kingdom, the country would be a ruptured empire
the Sovereign would lose the throne for violating the
Coronation Oath, and the Lord Chancellor would stand
a fair chance of losing his head. There was
no doubt but that a widespread conspiracy existed
to hand the country over to Rome, and for an amalgama-
tion of the Romish and Anglican communities. Mr.
Gladstone was the supporter of this scheme. It was a
fact that Mr. Gladstone had entered into a compact with
the Romish party to secure the support of that party on
condition of four concessions, one of them being the dis-
establishment of the Irish Church. Two years ago the
Russell-Gladstone Ministry entered into negotiations with
Mr. Alderman Dillon, of Dublin, the conditions for the
support of the Romish party being a reform of the land
laws, the repeal of obnoxious oaths, freedom in education,
and the disestablishment of the Trish Church." A Mr. Hiley,
who similarly libelled Mr. Gladstone last week, has been
brought to book and compelled to apologise. Yet in the
face of this Mr. Harper makes the monstrous assertions
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THE FENIAN TRIALS AT THE CENTRAL
CRIMINAL COURT.-THIS DAY.

This was the second day of the Fenian trials at the
Central Criminal Court. By a quarter-past 10 the Lord
Chief Justice mid Mr. Baron Bramwell had taken their
seats upon the bench, the counsel for the prosecution and
the defence were at the bar, the jury, brought in in the
custody of the bailiff of the court, were in their box, and
the prisoners, William Desmond, Timothy Desmond,
Nicholas English, John O'Keefe, Michael Barrett, and
Ann Justice, were placed in the dock. As the day wore
on the attendance of the public was much augmented,
but, owing to the admirable arrangements made by the
sheriffs and under-sheriffs, at no time was the court
inconveniently crowded. Several ladies were furnished
with seats under the judges' bench.

The cross-examination of the informer Mullany was
immediately proceeded with by Mr. Warner Sleigh, who
appeared for William Desmond. The witness, who
answered the searching questions put to him by the learned
counsel by no means so glibly as he did those of the
Attorney-General of yesterday in his examination in
chief, admitted that be had for some years been a Fenian,
and had at various times entertained Fenian centres
at his house. Was present about the 3rd of
December at a meeting at Little Queek-streef, at which he
was now quite sure, although he had
.not been so at first,
that William Desmond was there. Could not say whether
or not, when he gave his evidence on the 28th of January,
he omitted to mention that William Desmond was at the
meeting. Was present at Father O'Connor's meeting, but
did not know whether Vaughan was there, though he had
seen him several times since. Nor did he recollect seeinti
William Desmond there. On the 11th of December there
was a meeting at William Desmond's house. It was not
on that night that going into the room he said
to Desmond " I want you to heel a pair of
shoes." That was on another occasion. In reference to
the letter from Burke to Murphy, it was not a long time
ago that the copperas was used to bring out the ink.
When he saw that letter in Murphy's bands it was not
read out aloud, and he had not said that William Desmond

was present.
Mr. Straight, who appeared for Timothy Desmond, and
Mr. Montague Williams, who, with Mr. Edward Clarke,
appeared for O'Keefe and Justice, asked the witness no
questions.
In reply to Mr. Keogh, who appeared for English, the
witness stated that he had never read the bills offering
reward in connection with the Clerkenwell explosion. On
the day of the explosion English and William Desmond
asked him to go with them to Clerkenwell. Could not say
that anything was said about there being an explosion,
but it was well known that the attempt to blow up the
prison was to be made. Closely pressed as to his connection
with Fenianism, the witness admitted that originally his
sympathies had been with the Fenian movement, and
stated that he was led to turn informer because he knew
that English was about to " split," and because he thought
of his family. He did not know whether he should get
anything ; he was in the hands of the Crown. English
had told him in the waiting-room at Bow-street
that he was going to " split." It was about a week
after this that he (the witness) made up his mind to turn
informer, fully believing that English meant to adopt
that course.

In answer to Mr. Baker Greene, who appeared for
Barett, the witness said he was unable to state whether
after his arrest any of the officials of the prison told him
that English was about to turn informer. The first time
he saw Barrett was perhaps a fortnight before the explo-
sion. The letter from Burke was exhibited
at Desmond's house, he thought, on the 11th,
Barrett and English being present. Had told the Crown
solicitor about the letter before he was examined at Bow-
street, but when there he was asked no questions about

it. When he subscribed half a sovereign for powder he
knew it was to blow up the prison. Was not himself
present at the explosion. Was in company with Barrett
after the abortive attempt to fire the barrel had bE en
made, when he told witness that it would be done effec-
tually the next day. Morris, his apprentice, had stated,
when examined at Bow-street, that Barrett had come to
the house of witness on the night of the explosion, and
that his whiskers were on, and that he was accompanied
by a man whose ear had been injured. The truth of this
statement the witness denied, reiterating the evidence given
by him yesterday, to the effect that he met Barrett in a
public-house after the explosion, and that he joked him
upon having lost his whiskers.
Re-examined by the Attorney-General: The O'Connor
meeting had nothing whatever to do with Fenianism. It
was a meeting called to collect funds for the purpose of
building a church. Before being examined at Bow-street
he had made statements in reference to others than those a
present in the dock.

The witness was then removed in custody.
James Vaughan, another informer, examined by the
Solicitor-General, deposed that he was formerly a member
of the Fenian Brotherhood, having been sworn in in 1865.
Further questions upon this subject were objected to by
Mr. Straight, as it was apparent from the depositions
taken at the police-court that the object of them was to
chew that his client was at th It time a Fenian.
The Lord Chi_f Justice ruled that a matter so remote
could not be gone into. It was, however, competent, for
the purpose of shewing a motive, to ask who was present
at the meeting.
The witness then stated that the person who adminis-
tered the oath to him was Timothy Desmond. He pro-
ceeded to say that on the day of the explosion he saw
Timothy Desmond, who in conversation remarked that he
was " about to take a jump," adding, in a whisper, that
"it must be done." Witness asked what he meant. Des.
mond replied, " The House of Detention must be blown
up." He continued, that they had found out from Ann
Justice, who had been into the prison with Casey's
dinner, the time at which the prisoners exercised. " The
trick," he said, " must be done between half-past one and
four." Having added, " When I am blasted into eternity,
pray for me," and " if I get off and am arrested the next
place will be iNlillbank," he kissed witness, who did not
see him rain till he was a prisoner. On the evening 01
the day of the explosion witness saw English, who said,
" For God's sake give me as much as you can, for we are
going to send them all off." Gave him 2,3., and asked
him what had happened. He replied by asking witness
if he had not heard that the House of Detention had been
blown up. Seeing him afterwards at a newspaper shop,
the witness referred to the explosion as diabolical. Tc
this English replied, " It will be snore diabolical yet, for
we will burn all London down." The next clay he saw
O'Keefe in the street, who asked where English was.
Talking about the explosion, witness said it was a cruel
thing, so many lives being lost. O'Keefe replied,
" Such a thing could not be done without
a great sacrifice." They then went with twc
or three others into a public:- house. William
Desmond came in and said, " What
do you think
of that dr.-74 fool ?' meaning Timothy Desmond's wife.
He continued, " She has been calling him a coward,"
adding, " Did you ever hear me call Timothy a coward?'
At this time English came in. The witness then went on
to state that both William Desmond and English, in reply
to a remark that " it was a pity," meaning that Timothy
Desmond 4, as arrested, said it served him right, as he had
been told to keep away from the scene of the explosion.
They then left the public-house. On the following day
(,unclay) witness warned William Desmond that lift
house was being watched by detectives, and advised Wm
to get out of the way. Had met Barrett t)yice, omo Zn
the company of English.
In answer to Mr. Straight, the witness said he had been in
the army, but until closely pressed objected to state whether
he had deserted. He had twice been in St.James's Workhouse
as a lodger, but he could not say that he had been on either
occasion put under restraint. He could not remember ; all
he knew was that Dr. French told him ho ought not to
drink.
Brotherhood were sworn in only two
persoßy Mr. Baker Greene—When members
etrheepFreeseninatn.
but thought only
flchneeviwaltlhaotf thefh explosion was to takeeprfsonwasfoben place, but thought only
the wall of the prison was to be blow
down. Had never
In the conversations
seen Barrett at any Fenian meet'
with the Desmonds his name w
btrieeend
aby corporal.eourt-
Since giving information had be
gev. never mentioned.
the police. Gave
court-
martial and annd Montagr
ed u! eu de Wt
o thelam ranks,s—aesinak deh ab ev
ienng
tseepintgbythe reward offered
art of the reward if the
bi information
oGr mo
vaetrioonmasbnot.ut
E2xophoooutersd
taofter
enrps
aMt
01
ol a nwyi
tfho rhiamc.onsider-
ambel ne
ti m weree, but convicted. vhiacdted.
neverH aandykenoongwve
without leave that he was reduced
In cross-examination the witnesstostahido irtawnkass.forwahbosnenhceo
sworn in, he referred only to the or( y
said there wore only two persons presrenotarwhmenema
bFeernsiaonf was
brotherhood.
3filieessprsu.roklhaasreveoyf and
501 b.
Curtis,John
ftiDnecember. On the following
deposed
dk
to an
apPlicaowitt, clerko ftoor
of powder made on the sth o
fourdlaeyw to p
hotittl
of
ebya-roroolosrt w. er e taken from the works at Houn-
sne
William Purchase, carman, deposed_citr,k thatheasiogf
tookor a p
20Oesn
named Smith. Half a
lbroo
barrel of
powder to one end of Pult
Yotas taken into No. 8, the others
and
were placed on a truck, whiclw; some mtritnwahatflobtrhmeigdhitretoottfohne
the truck was wheeledentrance,
the man called Smith- Witness wa p
of Golden-square, being covered withs aaipdiexc3e o7fs.ta6rdp.afuolrintbhyo

powder.
Martha Kempsley, who resided at Mrs. Martin's, 8,
Pulteney-court, also identified Barrett as having often been
in the house. Saw him there on the Sunday prior to the
explosion. Ho then had whiskers.
By the Lord Chief Justice—He came to see Mrs. Martin.
[We shall continuo the report la our later edition.]