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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The Speaker took the Chair at Four o'clock.
PRIVATE BILLS.
The following private Bills were read a third time and

,passed:—
Merionethshire Turnpike Roads ; Reading Union
• Waterworks.
The following Bills, as amended, were considered:—
Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport Railway (deviations,
enlargement of station, &c.)
Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport Railway (sale or
lease to the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Com-
pany, &c.)
The Manchester BondingETITIONS Bill was read a second time
P.

Mr. W. BECKETT presented a petition from Leeds
• against the admission of Jews into Parliament.
Mr. FREWEN presented six petitions to the same
effect from places which he did not name.
Mr. ELLIS presented a petition from Leicester against
the Jews Bill.
Sir R. INGLIS presented petitions from a place in
Cornwall. Barnsley, in Yorkshire, and Pewsey, in Wilts,
all to the same effect.
Mr. PLUMPTRE resented petitions from Kent and
Hereford to the sash act.
Sir J. TItOLLOPE presented five petitions from
Kent to the same effect.
Mr. BEST presented a similar petition from Kidder.
minster to the same effect.
• Sir DE LACY EVANS presented a petition from
the rector and churchwardens of the parish of St. James's,
Westminster, complaining of the imperfect state of the
sewers of Westminster, which precludes them from en-
tering upon the sanitary improvements of that district.
The Hon. and Gallant Member gave notice that he
would move that the petition be printed on a future day,
as it was his intention to found a motion upon it.
Mr. DEEDES presented a petition from a place in
Kent against the Jews Bill.
Sir J. WA.LSII, presented a petition from Radnor-
shire (as we understood) against the Jews Bill.
Mr. HILVYARD presented a petition from Haver-
ford west to the same effect.
Mr. MOODY 'presented seven petitions from places in
Somers'et to the same effect.
Mr. R. PALMER presented a petition from Berk-
• shire to the same effect.
• Mr. H. BERKELEY presented a petition from Bristol
against the Mercantile Marine Bill.
Sir G. STRICKLAND presented a petition from the
Odd Fellows' Society of Preston prayi❑ that a clause
.might be introduced into the Friendly Sl•cieties Bill to
crotect their interest.
Mr. MACKINNON presented petitions from White-
bapel, Stepney, and Walworth in favour of the Marriage
Bill.
HARTLEPOOL WEST HARBOUR AND DOCKS
BILL.

Mr. FARRER, in moving for the postponement of
'.the bringing up of the report on this Bill till Tuesday,
- took. occasion. to- complain of an anonymous printed
states2ent reflecting upon his having attended the Com-
mittee on the Bill though he WAS not one of the mem-
bers of that Committee, and to disclaim being influenced
by any improper motive in his attendance.
Lord ROBERT GROSVENOR gave notice that he
should ask the .Puist , Minister of the Crown whether he
had it in contemplation to provide a more convenient
place for the accommodation of persons attending her
Majesty's deawing-room than the present one, which ex•
posed them to great danger.—(Laughter).
Shortly five o'clock, at which time the House
was densely crowded, Lord Palmerston entered the
House, accompanied by Sir George Grey, and the
Chancelle*Tfif the Exchequer, and was loudly cheered by
the' :11enifie'rs 'on the Ministerial benches. There was
partial satirical cheering on the Oppositioci benches.
.41111.RUPOLITAN GRAVEYARDS.

Lord PUDLEY S CUART rose amidst considerable
laughter to put the following questions:—What was to
be done with. the graveyards of the different parishes
after,they'shall have been closed under the Metropolitan
Intermeats Bill, who is to have the control of them, and
wl<° i, to bear any expense relating to them?
hir G. GREY replied that they were to remain under
the management and care of the existing parochial autho-
rities.

CONTRABAND TRADE.
Admiral BOWLES asked the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer whether he was aware of the great increase of
the cuutrab,ind trade on many puts of the cJast of the
United Kingdom,and that this circumstance was generally
attributccito the reduction i❑ the force admit, which had
hithert) prevented the smugglers from hovering on the
coast.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied
that he believed a great deal of smuggling had
been carried on in some parts of the coast,
but it was by no means general ; but this had not

Arisen from any reduction in the coast-guard service.

THE AFFAIRS OF GREECE.
• ;04, BMTEMEIsiT OF LORD JOHN RUSSELL.
• lldr. ROERUCK, whose rising attracted general
attention, and led to great silence among the Members,
of 'then put the question of which he had given notice. I
• • wish- to ask, he said, the First Lord of the Treasury,
whether the Government will adopt any especial course
conduct in consequence of a resolution passed in
anther place on Monday last?—(Hear, hear.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL then rose and slid—Sir,
the House will allow m, in consequence of the question
which the Honourable and Learned Gentleman has
put to me„4lna.ie a statement in reply to that ques-
tk3n. 1,04-upon consulting the minutes of the House
.of Lords, that what took place in that House is as
follows.—[The Noble Lord than read Lord Stanley's
-motion as agreed to in the House of Lords on Monday
night, and which it will he recollected was carried by a
,majority of 37.]-14T0W4 Sir, that resolution which I hare

just read, states in substance a general proposition with
r,-.....tespect to th'e rights and duties of the Government. It
Aix,livers that the rights and duties of the Government
to secure to her Majesty's subjects residing in
~fo.reign states the full protection of the laws of
10 Wtste slates. Now, Sir, I cannot consent so to limit

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the rights and duties of the Government of this
2 Coitntry. I think, taking those words as being the de-
-I"lnition of the rights and duties of the Goyernment of
'; 'tfria Country, it,, Would imply that any state, however
"
l riespOtie,- may stake any law, however unjust and op-
lressiie,-and that it may be executed by the most corrupt
•"t'nitruments,. and that the Government of this country
may have no right or authori:y to make y remon-
.'Titrance or interfere with respect to that law. an
Now, Sir,
ghat ii not the way 'which the laws of nations are put
flitactice b?rnanYgreat nations of Europe. And, I
;14 Yttrity lay; still less, of the United States.—(Hear, hear.)
.''rhey; all feel that they are bound--
' Mi: lASRA.ELI—Mr. speaker, I rise to order, but
- , with the greatest regret, because I do not wish to in-
AerPesa any observations during the communication
• the First Minister of the Crown may feel it his
duty to make. to that House. But a question has been
asked, of the Noble Lord by an Hon. Member of the
, ft i 'simple character; and lam •
gi oi s, . , , , quite sure that if the
15„1:4440,, Lord in making an answer to that tioll:4bOuld think it it necessary to enter into details
connected with that question, the House would listen to
op 't Only to the importance of the
oueition
him, owing of the Noble Lord; but x p-ut--Itio,
.‘..but to the po,,ition
. ,thwilouse whether the NohbolellLoonr.da,nindsLteeaatiof ghing an
answer to the question of t rued Member
Opposition benches.)
a
:for Batkrels not; on the contrary,op entering into
from the
:dTiecunoseajprlc—ee(dCini;rbgeing a resolution in consequence. of
I Lord that all
a tiebateonta subject no doubt of the greatest interest
.. • and ,iinpinttance; I can assure the Noble
have__,
the
the ,getitt4u*n. sitting on these benchesat
ary i:L
.s, ;lightest wish. to . avoid or prove
If the Noble
~.!.. rkia:. in—tkis :House' on that subject.
4 t
Itrd ',fiats- a ctiffcussion to take place, the .Ntible Lord
, icat2the hesdrisf the Government, and has control over
_
t cu fad
time of
,this'House; and if he will fix . a fitting and
ufair opportunity for that discussion, the Gentlemen on
h 4 side of:the,. House will be prepared to enter into
1)'11- toy aide
i
, order.) I apprehend, Sir, that I am n
order. I oelywish to assure the Noble 'Lord that it is
t!'..1337 f-ii.e,--ukti 'believe it will be the feeling of the
House,-tisattlfc-vie, are to have a discussion, it should be
, , full, fair, and- deliberate.L—(Hear.) I put it, therefore,
_ to the .Noble Lord whether, instead of introducing this
'„,, discussion on a sudden, it would not be more fair to give
~,,,iptice, and -defer-b till Li future period.—(Hear, hear.)
:Lord JOHN ItIfS4LI., continued—Sir, the question
~
v- -which has been-pm%
~_.,e certainly may be thought a
'l.'simple one, but it is nevertheless general in its nature.—
'l'.
‘ .(Hear, hear.) -Novre.lAesire to make a statement
4.o7itii. respect) tivi the),conrse we mean to pursue,
bat unless I am, ~ allowed to explain our con-
duct..
I must'iliiiiiiiiodtogether silent.—(Cheers.) It
---ia for. the House tu:deSide, whether I shall proceed or
,r "(Cries of "do ori;,.go on.") Sir, I have stated
~,- thogrounds, why Iliiiiik" it is impossible for Government
to carry into effect, according to their own sense of duty,
the first part of the resolution which has been
al. carried by the • House of Lords, and which we
G know has been passed from the minutes of the House of
1 Lords.—(Hear, beat.;.) , The latter:part of the resolution,
If- which I htiveiliki.: .1
---3.‘:z { e ad, conveys a vote of censure 1- upon the Government for the conduct they recently
pursaed with respect to the affairs of Greece.—
''''(Hear hear.) .Nurr,:. :sir, I am certainly not
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going to argue that question in I
must say this, that we are not
odetailin;
any
respect to alter the course of conduct
we have
powers in consequence ofe
thought it right to pursue in respect towtihnige h
if the House will
cheers.) Now. Sir,
thnat resolution.—(Tre-
mendousrespcmight fairly be in
that there is another question that;
permit me I will go on—(Hear, hear)—and I will say
the contemplation of Honourable Members, and that is
from the
whether the Government, thus
l dissenting
of
to conduct itself
by the House of Lords, an
general rule with respect
refusingtodtheaw nations laid down
has b
according to the resolution thateen carried,
it is not their duty to resign the government into
the hands of those who will act upon that resolu-
Sir, a question of this kind naturally
similar
lnindnu—es(Haresolutions, in spirit at least, have been passed. Now,
t•.cmeetro.) refer to different occasions, when
140 years ago the House of Lords came to a resolution
that it: would not be consistent with the interest and
honour of this country to make any peace with France,
under a treaty which would restore possession of the
Indies and Spain to any branch of the house of Bourbon.
—(Hear, hear.) The Executive Government, in
spite of the address in the House of Lords,
which was carried on a division, proceeded to
make a treaty with France, and that treaty
left Spain and the Indies in the possession of a
branch of the house of Bourbon.—(Cheers.) Not many
years ago, in the month of June, 1833, no less a person
than the Duke of Wellington moved an address to the
Crown on the subject of the foreign policy of this coun-
try
so far as it regarded Portugal.—(Hear, hear.)
Earl Grey, in replying to the motion that was then
made, is reported to have declared that he should con-
sider that address as a vote of censure, and as a stigma
upon Government, but, nevertheless, that resolution
upon a division was carried.—(Hear, hear.) Earl
Grey, however, continued in the execution of
the policy :that' he had previously adopted, and my
Noble Friend near me declared in this House, that he
should not swerve from the policy which had been thus
adopted.—(Cheers.) Sir, I believe the conduct of the
Executive Government in:these two cases was accord-
ing to the constitution of this country.—(Cheers.)
And I believe that a change in the Government result-
ing from the resolution of the House of Lords with re-
spect to the conduct of the isecutive Government of
this country would be contrary to the constitution of
this country—(Cheers)—and while it might make
great confusion in the State, it would lead to none
which would not be dangerous to the House of Lords
itself.—(Cheers.) I believe that placing upon the House
of Lords the weight and responsibility of controlling the
Executive Government of this coantry would soon place
the House of Lords in a position which it
had never hitherto occupied, and which it
could not safely hold.—(Loud cheers.) Sir, if
these are my opinions, and they certainly are, I
cannot consent to surrender the reins of power in
consequence of the resolution which has been arrived
at by the House of Lords, but, at the same
time, I will not deny that the resolution,
carried as it -has been, is a matter of great
importance.—(Hear, hear.) I will not deny that it will
deeply affect the conduct of foreign powers, but, Sir, the
remedy, I should have thought, were it not for certain
circumstances, was easy and obvious.—(Hear, hear.)
The Hon. Gentleman the Member for Buckingham, who
lately interrogated me, is himself in close political and
party connexion with the Noble Lord who is reported to
have made this motion in the other House of Parliament.
If he had given notice of some motion in this House,
the House could then have decided on the merits of that
motion (Hear, hear) and if they had agreed
with the House of Lords, they could have no
doubt or hesitation as to the course which her
Majesty's Government should have pursued.—(Cheers.)
But, Sir, by the fair and honourable interpretation of
the conduct of the Hon. Gentleman, and of those who
act with him, if they bad believed in the soundness of
that resolution they would no doubt have thought it
their duty to bring forward that resolution in this
House, in which, besides its being the House
where all the administration of the Crown is con-
trolled and advised, there is this obvious advantage,
that in this House sits the Minister who is charged with
the affairs of that department.—(Loud cheers.) But
there is an honourable explanation of such conduct, and
such explanation no doubt is, that those who share the
general political opinions of the Noble Lord whom I
have mentioned, do not share in the view he takes with
respect to the affairs of Greece, and the general foreign
policy of the Government.—(No, no.) If they had
agreed with him there would be no excuse for allowing
my Noble Friend to make his own defence in this
House.—(Cheers.) But if that is the case, I can only
say the Government shall continue in the course that we
have hitherto followed with respect to our foreign po-
licy. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Roebuck),
if he wishes to make any motion:on this subject, shall
have the earliest possible day which can be given
for that purpose; but so long as we continue in the
Govermnent of this country I can answer for my Noble
Friend that he will not act as the Minister of Austria
or of France—(Cheers)—or any other country, but as
the Minister of England.—(Renewed cheers.) The
honour of England and the interests of England—such
are the matters within our keeping, and it is to those
interests and that honour that our efforts will in future
be, as they have hitherto been, directed.—(The Noble
Lord resumed his seat amidst loud cheers.)
Mr. DISRAELI said, as there was no question before
the House, he wished, with the permission of the House,
, to make an answer to the insinuation which the Noble
Lord had thrown out, to the effect that he (Mr.
Disraeli) nor any other Gentleman had brought
, forward any motion on the question which
had recently engaged the attention of the House of
Lords, when the Noble Lord at the head of the depart-
ment of Foreign Affairs might have had an opportunity
of defending himself. He (gr. Disraeli) would in-
form the House why that question kad not been brought
forward in that House. They would have been told, as
they hid ever been told, that the negotiations were pend-
ing, and then any discussion would have been deprecated
on the subject. In another place that deprecation was
made on this very subject by her Majesty's Ministers.
Her Majesty's Ministers could not sing one song in one
place and another :in this House. If that question had
been deprecated in the House of Lords because nego-
House, if the question had been mooted in this
nations were pending, of course that objection would
have bean made, as it had always been made.—
(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He begged leave to inform
the Noble Lord that he had been very imperfectly
informed as to the relations between Gentlemen in this
House and the other House of Parliament, and as to
the amount of sympathy between them. Although
the Noble Lord will not come forward himself
to ask the verdict of the House—(Cheers)—but
has conveniently thrown out a bipt of the obvious
and honoured machinery already existing, he could'as-
sure the Noble:Lord that when the question was t sally
brought before the House, that he (Mr. Disraeli) should
be prepared to uphold the decision of the other House.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that, sot entirely agreeing
with the constitutional doctrine of the Noble Lord, ho
would propose a resolution to-morrow according to
the terms in which the Noble Lord had suggested,
because ho himself wished to test the sense of
the people of this country on the foreign policy
of Government, and with the permission of the
iNhobaltethLeorpdr,ihneawooeualdwmhioevhe followinghthaeveresolution
ragulated
hitherto
•.t—he
foreign policy of her Majesty's Government are such as
were required to preserve untarnished the honour and
dignity of this country, and at all times best calculated
to maintain peace between, this country and the various
nations of the world.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that to-morrow night
the Government had given notice of a vote of supply,
but he should be very glad to waive the orders of the
day in order to afford an opportunity fur the discussion
of the question. _ _

Mr. bISRAELI suggested that the motion should be
postponed until Monday. He was sure the Noble Lord
would not wish to take the House by suprise.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he was quite ready
that the motion should come on at the earliest opportu-
nity possible; but if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
was quite willing he should have no objection to the
motion being postponed till Monday.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that so great was his desire that
this subject should be perfectly and fairly discussed in
that House, that he thought it due to the House to defer
the motion till Monday.
The matter then dropped.
DELIVERY OF LETTERS AND, NEWSPAPERS

ON SUNDAY.
Mr. LOCKE rose to ask the Government whether, in
regard to the recent decision respecting the non-delivery
of letters on Sundays, there would be any objection,
within certain preicribed hours, to allow parties to ob-
tain their letters on personal application being made for
them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was un-
derstood to say that he could not answer the question.
Mr. W. J. FOX said that ho had just learned that
the newspapers of the metropblis had been informed
only this afternoon that the usual facilities would not be
afforded them next Sunday for the delivery of their
parcels, and he wished to know whether it would not be
Possible to afford them a little longer time to make their
preparations for this change?
The
that he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
could not hold out any hopes of any such delay.
He had not the slightest doubt, and he had stated it at
the time, that the recent decision of the :liouse-viii9u/sC,
lead to great inconvenience, and he Watig-tAtd to ye that
Hon. Members were beginning to find* out, and he
hoped in due time that they would arrive at such-ri gate
a 'reconsideration oi their
of mind as to lead them to
late decision.—(Cheers and laughter.)
Mr. LOCKE gave notice that he should, on an easty
day, call the attention of the House to the effects of
its late decision with respect to the non-delivery of letters
on Sundays, with view to the reversal of it