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ehildrer. He would act further trespass upon tie Irecn'v,
than to say, that if ie.,tirte was act dune The people
se,;eAl/y du justice fee them:.e'eees. He oiToeed the turtu
reading of the Bill.
Mr. REYNOLDS had the greatest possible abhor•
rence for anonymous communications, which were flee
quently made the vehicle of attackin" private reputation.
lie baud the letter read was a copy of another letter,
and that it had no name attached to it. He thought that
the inure Lonoura'ele and creditable course would have
been to have given the Member fur Manchester notice of
his intention to censure him. He disapproved of attack-
ing men in their absence. He knew something of Mr'
Brielit's mills, and they did not deserve the imputations
thrown out.
Mr. FEARGUS O'CONNOR'said he would offer the
original letter to the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir G. Grey),
although not to the Right lion. Gentleman the Lord
Mayor cf Dublin.
Sir G. GREY was sorry that this private question had
been pursued so far, but if the letter had been written
by a Government inspector, he wished to know the par"
of the writer, but the sooner they returned to the que6'
tion before the House the better, and with respect to it
he should only say, that he thought the measure before
the House was one which would prove satisfactory to
the great body of the operatives, and he thought the
House would be doing them a great service in removing
the uncertainty of the existing law, by going at once to
the third reetrieg of the Bill.
Mr. FOX said that he locked upon this measure as
only a temporary arrangement, and his conviction was
that from the addition of two hours' work in the weest
and the non-restrietion of the hours of young children,
the operatives would not accept it as a permanent settle:
inent of the question. He deprecated the temper and
the mode in which this Bill had been assailed. The
factory operatives of Nottingham had not deputed the
advocacy of their cause to the Hon. Member opposite
(Mr. F. O'Connor), but to other hands, and what had
just taken place showed the wisdom of that ar-
rangement. With regard to the statement respecting
Mr. Bright, in the letter rend by the Hon. Gentleman,
everybody who knew Mr. Bright knew that he was in'
capable of oppressive and cruel conduct.—(Hear.) 110
lamented that the Hon. Member, (Mr. O'Connor) was
not in his place, when his vote might have done the
operatives much more good than the remarks he his
made that evening.
Mr. HUME said that he had always strenuously op-
posed all Bills interfering with the labour market; but,
however much opposed an Hon. Member might be to
Bill before the House, he thought it unwise to use hay
guage which had a tendency to prevent capitalists from
employing their capital to the best advantage*
He thought this Bill was an improvement upon
the last, but it was at the same time a warn'
ing to the Noble Lord, that when they departs,"
from principle, there was no telling to what it
would lead. It was on that ground that he wished to
enter his protest against the Bill.
Sir T. ACLAND said he looked upon the Bill more
as a compromise than as a final settlement of the quo-
tion. He approved of restricting the hours of labour,
but thought that the measure, in providing for adults
who could help themselves, was strangely deficient in
overlooking the claims of those of tender years. IP)
hoped another session would not pass without this objec-
tion being removed.—(Hear, hear.)
The SPEAKER puethe question fur the third reading
of the Bill, and upon making the usual announcement
that the ayes have it,
Mr. O'CONNOR said emphatically the noes have it.
The gallery was then cleared for a division, but none
took place.
The Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Borough Courts of Record (Ireland) Bill was read
a third time and passed.
The Turnpike Roads (Ireland) Bill was read a third
time and passed.
COURT OF EXCHEQUER (IRELAND) BILL,
On the order of' the day for the second reading of this
Bill,

Mr. NAPIER thought that sufficient reasons had not
been given by the Government for taking this step for
the abolition of the equity jurisdiction of that court in
Ireland. It was against the advice and opinion of the
Learned Judges of that court. It was true that in this
country it had been abolished, but the cases in the tw°,,
countries were not parallel. They had the Court o',
Chancery full of business in Ireland, while the Court 0'
Exchequer had comparatively nothing to do. Ile cowl'
dered that no measure could be more injurious to the il3-
Wrests of Ireland than the present; and for that reason
he felt bound to offer it his strongest opposition. Ile
then alluded to the officers of that court, and said dig
nothing could be more unjust than to allow such officials
to live un the taxes of the' country, without performing
any duty whatever, and thus enjoy a sinecure at the
pense of the country.
Mr. lIATCHELL said that a Bill for the transfer of
the equity branch of the Court of Each( quer would be
most useful, and ho was happy to say that he know 0'
one of the judges of the Court of Exchequer being in
favour of this Bill, and that none of the other judge
were opposed to it.—(Hear, hear.)
The Bill was then read a second time.
CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL.
The House then resolved itself into Committee on 06
Bill.

Mr. TURNER moved, on clause 1, that the trustee;
should not be removed according to the Bill, as such II
line of procedure he considered to be very unjust, ss'
should, therefore, move that the question relative t°
the removal of the trustees should be erased from the
clause.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL explained that
subsequent clauses would render everything to which
the lion. Gentleman referred satisfactory, and therefor•
hoped that he would not press his amendment, as 11°-
thing beneficial would arise from such an opposition 0
he them offered.
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment 14
Against it ... 65
Majority —5l
Clauses 3,4, 5,6, and 7 were then agreed to.
On clause 8 being proposed,
Mr. TURNER objected that the whole of the control
of the charitable trusts under this clause would fall into
the hands of the clerks of the judges of the county courts,
without the judges of those courts knowing anything °:
the subject. lie should move the omission of the clans
from the Bill.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, in opposing
omission of the clause, did not deny that considerable
evils arose in the appointment of trustees, and thought
that if proper caution were exercised, so as to mak° the
trustees as impartial as possible, the evils might be reme-
died. To effect that object, he had no objection to lo"
troduce a clause into the Bill; but with respect to the
tribunal itself, he considered it a just one, and hoped the
House would adhere to it.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL supported the clause.
Mr. TURNER would not divide the Committee. ,a
The clause, after a few words from Mr. DEEDr''''
was agreed to.
Mr. SADLEIR said that this Bill concerned the
in-
terests of his constituents very much, and he was sotnfii
what surprised, on entering the House, to find the
in Committee. He therefore deemed it his duty to 03°r"
that the Chairman do now report progress.
The ATTORNEY- GENERAL and SOLICITOR;
GENERAL opposed the course proposed by tba
Honourable Gentleman, on the ground that the Bill 9isai
g,.
been now so long before the House, that every Mem'e
must be supposed to understand its proposed provislar,
Mr. STUART regarded the Bill as of great in3P° d
tance, involving questions of serious consideration, an
trusted that the House would not, on the present sees"
sion, proceed farther with the measure.
After a few words from Captain HARRIS and Mr'
DE DES.
Mr. SADLEIR consented to withdraw his motion'
that the Chairman report progress.
Mr. TURNER'S amendment, " that the Bth dells:
be omitted," was then put, and the Committee ths
divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment
Against it ...
Majority against the amendment
The clause was then agreed to.
EXCLUSION FROM A DIVISION. er
Mr. ELLIOT complained that he and twelve oi:ad
Members had been shut out from the division which
just taken place. The doors must have been shut before
the division bell was rung, and, on
for admission to the House, the door-keepwer refuse
bees
let them in. Ile thought the shutting out of Mo
in this way was a serious matter. presenting thetnseldiut;
Several of the excluded Members expressed their
opinions on the matter, and e he
The CHAIRMAN said, if such were the "9;00
would speak to the Sergeant-at-Arms, who, he Wss 4
certain, would not suffer it to occur again. o•
[How the Hon. Members would have voted Is
known to themselves.
Clause 9, as amend] ed, was then agreed to, a*l, de
clauses 10 to 17 inclusive. 27, 28'
Clauses 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26,
29, 30, 31, and 32, were agreed to.
On clause 33 being read, be follow.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL proposed t 4, And the
ing addition to it, which was agreed to:-.:no, afore-
Lord Chancellor, with the advice and essi_s.,.°nino the
said, shall from time to time fix sad
amount of the fees to be received in thed::usrtyes goutti•ltes
Masters, and also by the officers of
for the duties to be performed by theme rasp rfesePs so payable
der the provisions of this Act; and the
ellor shall, with
shall be appropriated as the Lord Chefie:roesty,,; Tress..
the consent of the Commissioners of her -""'
on every PIT'
sury, think fit to direct ; and the fees Ire first instance.
ceeding under this Act shall be paid, procced•
eetively un-
by the party by whom or on whose behalf
big shall be taken or had."
Clause 34 was agreed to. L proPeee
On clause 35 the SOLICITOReGENERA
derivg of
to introduce an amendment respecting the tho
the accounts of such trusts, which was in tin t
such
these should be rendered " annually or oftener. Aid
Mr. TURNER objected to the amendment, as
also Capt. HARRIS.
The clauseing waselagreedause
s
nthe p
passed,
on
dmentus,osunso
the re ma inresumed, and the Bill was ordered to be reported
Thursday next.
Mr. ARKWRIGHT complained that a Bill he ha
introduced was the last order in the list, after have•
been in the votes not less than 29 or 30 times. P"
thought it most advisable that Members should kn:ire
when Bills would come on, instead of being in attenda
night after night for no purpose.
Sir G. GREY said the arrangements in this reap
ed
were much better than they were a few years since.
COUNTY COURTS EXTENSION BILL.O. this
On the order of the day for the third reading t
Bill,
Sir G. CLERK said he had intended to moveors.
clause providing, that if the Registrar of Pon
Cinr...e
and ceher officers connected with the
Forts, should hereafter be enabled to make °I"

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