The Sun.
London, England, 1868-07-07 00:00:00

I MPERIAL PAR L [ARLEN I

CAVALRY HORSES.

Sir R. ANSTRUTHER asked the S:crelary of State for
War whether his attention had b3en called to Captain
Cockerell's Report to the Co:nmissio3ers of the Paris Ex
hibition upon the new system of shoaiig h.rsea iatto-
duced by DI. Charlier, and now extensivaly mod in Paris,
and whether he would give direction 3 that a trial of this
system of shoeing should be made at the Cavalry Depots
at Canterbury.

Sir J. PAKINOTON said ho hai soon th 3 r; port, but
as he was in ca.mnunication witn th 3 prop)r offl.:ers ho
could not at that mornia giva an t 3 tho glastion.
THE DOVER FORTIFICATIONS.
In reply to Mr. DIXON,

Sir J. PAKINGTON said he had reoeivA intelligence
through a private sour 3a that a schooner, whilst lying in
Dover Roads, had been struck by a shot from the bat-
teries, and be had given directions that a moat searching
inquiry should be made into the circumstance.
CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELECTIONS BILL.
The house then went into co ntnittee on this bill.
On clause 5 being proposed,

Mr. 130 U VERIE moved that the clause and all clauses
following up to clause 18 inclusive be omitted. He
did so because ho believed that the provisions
were such that the whole intention of the measure
would be frustrated. The right hon. gentleman moved
a number of clauses to take the place of those proposed to
be left out : the first set forth the place at which the trial
was to be held, the nest provided for the appointment of
three additional judges, and the other clauses
provided that every such election inquiry should be
presided over by one of the judges of her
Majesty's superior Courts of Common Law at Westmin-
ster, such judge not being a member cf the House of Pears,
and such judge should alone decide every question of law
arising on such trial, whether relating to the admissibility
of evidence or otherwise, and should direct the said com-
mittee upon the law by which their decision was to be
governed, and such committee should accord-
ingly, as a jury, give their decision only
on the facts of the ..case : provided always that
such trial should proceed and be conducted in all
respects in the same way as a trial at Nisi Prins, or a cri-
minal proceeding before a jury. On the conclusion of the
trial the judge, he proposed, should certify to the Speaker
the result of the trial, at the same time stating if any and
what corrupt practices had prevailed. He thought if
the house were to adopt his amendments, that great
good would result, and they would have a tribunal which
would do the work far more efficiently than at present.
Sir P. COLLIER objected to the amendments, the more
so as they did not provide for any local inquiry, an ar-
rangement very generally desired, and also that no
provision was made for au inquiry being taken
when the house was not . sitting. (Hear, hear.)
He thought if the house parted with the jurisdiction of
conducting these inquiries into corrupt practices, the
power should only be given to the highest judicial
authorities. He objected to give it to barristers of,
ten years' standing or county court j u.laes.
(Hear, hear.) It had been said that the inquiry would be
too severe, but ha did not think that could be so, for if
there was corruption existing- it was wall for the country
that it should be known and rooted out.

Mr. LOPES supported the amendments of the right hon.
member for Kilmarnock. He thought that the proposal
to try these election inquiries by an assessor and a kind
of jury selected from that house was oue of the best
arrangements that could be made.

Mr. HUGESSEN said tho select committee having de-
cided upon the house giving up it; jurisdiction, he thought
the best thing to do was to agroe to it rather than fritter-
ing the time away of tho house in useless discussions,
which would only praveut anything. being done at all dur-
ing the present session. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HENLEY supported the clause, because it gave the
security of a jury, rather than making their decisionS rest
upon the opinion of one man.

Mr. MILL said he wished it could be ma le unlawful
for bribery to be tJleca.ted, an I that could not be done as
long as Parliament itself took the initiative in deciding
the question. If the matter was decided by an indepen-
dent tribunal, a much more satisfactory state. of things
would result than that which at present existed.
Mr. GLADSTONE, though personally preferring, both
to the bill and to Mr. Bouverie's amendment, a plan con-
templated by Mr. Ayrton (to institute preliminary in-
quiries by officials specially appointed, and to be called
attorneys of the House of Commons), pressed the Govern-
ment to facilitate the progress of the bill by accepting Mr.
Mill's amendment ; but

Mr. DISRAELI declined to give any opinion at present
as to the expediency of limiting the'duration of the bill,
though he promised favourably to consider it when it was
proposed as a substantial amendment. Mr. Bouverie's
amendment, he intimated, would be considered as fatal to
the whole principle of the bill.

Mr. Lopes and Sir C. O'Loghlen supported the amend-
ment, and Mr. Knatelibull- flugessen supported it. On a
division there was a majority of 77 against it, and in favour
of the bill-204 to 127.

The committee was occupied with tho bill up to half-
past ten o'clock, but no material amendment vas made in
it until clause 10, which sanctions the appointment of two
election judges, and on this an important decision was
arrived at, which for the moment has brought the bill to a
stop.

Mr. AYRTON suggested that, instead of nominating
two judges to be specially set apart for this duty, one
judge should be added to each of the Common Law courts,
and election petitions should be tried indiscriminately
by the general body of judges, according to a settled rota.
Mr. Russell Gurney, Mr. Kerslake, Mr. Denman, Mr.
Sergeant Gaselee, and others supported this plan, and
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, in opposing it, pointed
out that the remonstrance of the judges against having
this duty imposed on them was not withdrawn, and
hinted that the adoption of this scheme might imperil the
bill.

Mr. LOWE strongly protested against this lino of argu-
ment. It was the duty of the house to create the best tri-
bunal in its power, without reference to the protest of the
Judges, or to the possible action of the House of Lords.
He strongly urged the Government, therefore, to consider
their determination, and to commit the jurisdiction to the
Oom►non Law Bench, reinforced by the addition of three
new Judges.

Mr. DISRAELI admitted that this might be the best
course, but, remembering the effect of the Judges' protest
on the House of Commons, it was possible it might be
equally powerful with the other house. It was therefore
necessary to consider not so much what was best as what
would be most likely to be carried ; and, not being pre-
pared to risk the success of the bill, he dEclined to assent
to the suggestion.

On a division Mr. Ayrton's amendment to omit the
essential portion of the clause was carried by a majority of
65-136 to 71. Upon this Mr. Disraeli moved to report
progress, with the view of considering what could be done
to meet the views of the house, but he added that he
oould not conceal from himself the great difficulties ho
had to contend with. The further progress of the bill was
then adjourned until Thursday.
The Army Estimates were the next business on the
paper, but before going into supply,
Major ANSON interposed with an elaborate attack on
the manufacturing department of the army, which he ac-
cused of gross waste, extravagance, misrepresentation,
and even falsification of accounts. Under the head of gun
manufacture especially Major Anson pushed his attack
into minute detail, supporting it by a great mass of figures,
and concluded by a comprehensive resolution containing
three propositions—first, that in order to secure greater
accuracy of accounts an annual statement of the stores
in possession of the troops and in the arsenals be laid be-
fore Parliament; next, that in order to prevent the Go-
vernment manufactories becoming monopolies a certain
proportion of stores be purchased from the private trade ;
aud, lastly, that the manufacturing departments be worked
as private firms.
Sir J. PAKINGTON complained that Major Anson had
given no notice of his most serious charge against the
manufacturing departments; consequently he was unable
to answer them on the spot.. To the first proposition Sir
John made no difficulty in acceding by way of experi-
ment, though he pointed out it would be very costly. To
the second he rep'ied by showing in what large propor-
tions such stores as clothing, genpowder, small arms, dre.,
are purchased from private manufacturers, and on the third
and most important of Major Anson's proposals, while
acknowledging its desirability, he refused to commit him-
self without further consideration.

The Marquis of HARTINGTON held it to be imprac-
ticable to conduct the Government manufactories as pri-
vate firms, and on
.that account chiefly he urged that
Major Anson's charges against them should be striotly in-
vestigated.
Mr. Otway, Sir G. Bowyer, and General Herbert made
some observations on the same subject; and Lord Eleho,
on Major Anson's behalf, offered to submit his case to
a select committee or any other inquisition.

The practice of intrusting privates and non-commis-
sioned officers with 20 rounds of ta:l cartridge in time of
peace was mooted by Mr. HATTER, and these preliminary
discussioni occupied the house until so late an hour that
the army estimates were postponed until the next supply
night.
The Earl of MAYO brought in the Registration Bill for
Ireland, which, like the EnglisL bill, is coailncd chiefly to
the process of revision. It provides that the process shall
be completed between September 8 and October 6, so that
the lists shall be in the hands of Sheriffs by the Ist of
November. It also contains provisions for facilitating
the making up of the supplemental lists of new voters,
and the general result is that everything will be ready for
a general election in Ireland about the same time as in
England.

The house adjourned at a quarter to two o'elock.

The course of exelisnge at New York on London for bills
at 60 days' sight was on the last date about 1., per cent.
At this rate there is scarcely any profit on the importation
of gold from the United r:.tates.

IHPERIAL PARLIALIENT

HOUSE OF LORDS—Tars EVENING.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scat on the Woolsack
at fire o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
Metropolitan and St. John's-wood Railway Bill was read
a third time.

FAIRS BILL.
This bill was committed and passed.
WEST INDIES BILL.

The Duke of &ICU:NO[IAM move.] the second read-
ing of this bill. The object of the bill was to repeal a sum
of £20,000 which had been for upwards of 40 years gran: e 1
to the ()much in the West Indies. In 1221 this sum was
granted before the abolition of Slavery for the purpose of in-.
creasing the influence, efficiency, and scope of the Church of
England amongst the slave population in those islands.
It was found necessary that if anything was to be done
for the amelioration of the slaves that immediate
sums should b 3 granted. Mr. Canning said, in introducing
the bill, that it was necessary to grant this amount in
order to introduce spiritual education anaoug the people ;
and Mr. Canning stated that it was for the
benefit of the white population alone ; it was net to be a
permanent grant, but to meet immediate wants, and to be
subject to such modifications as might be subsequently
necessary, and it very soon was modified. Under those
circumstances the grant was made of £20,300 per
annum; to the bishops were granted £14,000, and
only £6,300 to rectors and catechists. It was
found, however, that the grant to the bishops was
not satisfactory, and that the sum which was intended to
serve two bishops was extended t.) three. In the
beginning of her Majesty's reign the amount to the
particular bishops was reduced, and it had since
been materially changed. At the present time
the grant is applied in very nearly the original
terms, although more persons received the bene-
fits. The first question was, why should the
bill be repealed ? The House of Commons had
laid before it a bill which was to the effect that
the grant had done its work, aad it was obvious
that there was no longer reason for its continuance. Before
moving the second reading he thought it right that he
should explain that this bill had nothing to do with the
suspeusioc of certain appointments in Jamaica... but that
this point had risen since he had the hoaour to succeed to
the Colonial Office.

The Earl of CARNARVON said Vaal he disagreed with
the second reason of the noble lord, and he did not think
that the Indian Church could dispense with this sum
of twenty thousand pounds. Ile had seen that
this change was coining, and ho hal taken pains
to put that Church in a position to meet it,
and for this he had incurred a certain a:nount of raproa,ch.
The noble earl then stated that after what had fallen from
the noble lord on the woolsack a few nights ago ho thought
it right to make a few remarks on the subject. The noble
lord had, he considered, left the impression upon their lord-
ships' minds that he had grossly exaggerated the matter
and misled them. Th3ro had been an entire misunder-
standing of his statement relative to the compari-
son between the Church of England in Jamaica and
in Ireland and the modifications introduced by
this bill. lie contended that as he voted for
suspension in Ireland, so he did fur it in Jamaica, and
therefore he thought that he was given great credit by the
noble lord on the woolsack for consistency. his
lords Lip then reviewed the various acts which
regulated the distribution of the .£20,000 grant,
and said it would bo obvious that before
1824 there were no West ludia bishops at all, and if this
was not a case of endowment ho did not know what was.
(Hear, hear.) Lie could make his case still stronger; in
1842 there was a ,debate on the subject, and Lord Derby,
then Colonial Secretary, clearly showed that this
was an establishment; and Mr. Pakington stated that
in all our colonies there ought to be provision for the Es-
tablislaNl Church. By the general testimony of Mr. Ver-
non Smith, and his own immediate predecessor, Mr.
Cardwell, ha was entitled to consider this an
Established Church, and the grant an endowment,
and he was ut a loss to conceive what
could be more trustworthy, more binding, than an act of
Parliament passed under these conditions. There was not
one ono word in these acts about its being a transfer.
Speakingafteran absence of one 3 ear and a half, and with-
out knowing what had transpired within the
Colonial Office, he was convinced that the noble
and learned lord had erred when ho stated that
the colonists were ready and willing to accept this bur-
then. He hoped, therefore, that if be had testimony to
produce confirming that view that he t‘ ould not hesitate
to produce it. He was quite sure that he had uninten-
tioeally mis-stated the fact.
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS—This DAY.
The SPEAXER took the cliair at 2 o'clock.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS BILL.

The adjourned debate on this bill, which is for the
regulation of the publicsehools,_Was resumed.

Yf he s_tveral clauses of the bill having been considered,
and in som 4 instances amended,
Mr LOWE moved the following clause be added to the
bill :—" That all boys educated at the seven schools
mentioned in this act shall be examined (mice a year, by
ono of the Inspectors of the Committee of Council ou
Education, in reading, writing from dictation, arithmetic
including vulgar fractions, practic., and the rule of three,
geography, English grammar and history, and the
results of such examination and the report of
the examining inspectors shall be laid before Parliament."
He said he did not make the motion in any oppositioa to
the public schools, but because greater proficiency should
be secured than was at present the case. He thought if
there was any deficiency with respect to the pupils, it was
but right that the parents of such pupils should be male
aware of the fact. Ho thought such an exa-
mination as he proposed would be considered as
a disadvantage. The Commissioners on Middle-
class Education recommended that all endowed
schools should be submitted to annual examination. He
had no sympathy with any body that recoiled from such
a test. If the public schools fulfilled their functions pro-
perly, there could bo no valid objection to his proposition;
if not Parliament ought to step in and remedy the evil.
Mr. GRIFFITHS opposed the clause, as such au exa-
mination as was proposed would be disgraceful in the last
degree.
Mr. FORSTER said he could not vote for the clause,
because he did not think the examiners proposed were the
right persons, and that the branches mentioned should be
the only ones examined upon. if there was any legislation
on endowed schools generally, he would vote for such a
proposal, but he could not agree to it with respect to
seven public schools affected by the bill.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said in some of the public schools
everything was sacrificed to teach Latin and Greek, but
having done that they did not really accomplish that which
was intended. He had spent ten years of his life in en-
deavouring to learn Latin and Greek, and had not suc-
ceeded in either. (Laughter.) He did not look upon
that as a fault, but as a misfortune. (Laughter.)
Mr. WALPOLE said he did not think the proposal of
the right hon. gentleman would really effect the object he
had in view. He thought with respect to the appoint-
ment of Government inspectors it was a mistake ; the
proper course was for the people of the country to see
that their sons got the education they required. It was
not wise to remove all responsibility from parents by the ,
appointment of Government inspectors, but that under the
circumstances the best thing to do at the present time was
to leave the subject to be disposed of by the new govern-
ing bodies. He hoped the right hon gentleman would not
press his clause.
Mr. P. WYNDHAM supported the proposal, and said
he believed parents would look to such examinations with
the utmost confidence, conducted as they woald be by
parties independent of the school.
Mr. HENLEY said he thought they had had enough of
Government inspection. He had no faith in them, as they
had on former occasions, notwithstanding the most
flourishing reports, proved an utter failure. He could not
consent to sweep away all old arrangements, because an
hon. gentleman gets up in his place in Parliament and
declared that although he had tried for ten years he had
not learned anything. (Laughter.)
Mr. ACLAND hardly thought the right honourable
gentleman could seriously intend to press his
motion. He said there was no doubt much idle-
ness at Eton, which would be well if it were got
rid of, and another thing that prevented educadon
progressing was that many persons put their sons to Eton
merely for the purpose of getting aristocratic associates,
which might be useful in after life, who did not
care twopence what they learned. He did not
think that the inspectors suggested were exactly the
class of mon to fulfill the duties proposed by the bill. It
appeared to him to be an attempt by a side wind to ap-
point the Duke at the head of the Privy Council Minister
of Public Education, a proposition he could never as-
sent to. He hoped, under all the circumstances, the
right lion. 'gentleman would withdraw the clause, and
assist Parliament on a future occasion in framing a reso-
lution which should affect all public schools, and not alone
the seven schools affected by the bill.
Col. SYKES said at Harrow a boy might now take
high honours in Greek and Latin, and yet leave the school
without being able to repeat the multiplication table.
Mr. S. MILL thought there ought to be some sort of
examination at the time pupils were first admitted.
®Mr. HEYGATE said the debate could lead to no prac-
tical good. because it went on the assumption that what
was the state of things at Eton some time existed at pre-
sent, which was not the fact.
Mr. LOWE, after a few observations in defence of his
proposition, withdrew the clause.
Mr. AYRTON then moved a clause to make provision
for boys as day scholars whose parents resided within
three miles of the action of the said school.

The consideration of this proposition occupied the house
up t) seven o'clock, atwhich hour the sitting of the house
was suspended until nine o'clock.

COURSE OF EXCHANGE—This Evening.

Ainsterdani. Short ... 11 181 ... 11 18;
Do
Rotterdam — ... 11 19/ ... 12 0
Aut warp ... 25 374 ... 25 421
Brussels
flamburgh . . ... 13 91 ... 13 Ini
Paris
Ditto .... 3 113. ... 2 . 34 ... 25 371
Mraaoilles - ... 25 40
Frankfort-on-03-M Lin ... 120 ... 1.201
Vienna — ... 11 621 ... 11 70
Trieste — ... 11 621 ... 11 70
Petersburg
Berlin
31111 rid..
Oadi7
Leghorn
Milan — ..:. 27 55 ... 27 70
Palertn• — ... 27 55 ... '27 70
Messina - 70
Lisbon — ... 511 ... 513
Ogorto

SPORTING INTELLIGENGE—Thfs Da/

NEWMARKET RACES-THIS DAY.
ACHIEVEMENT STAKES.

The Achievement Stakes of 50 soya each, h ft, for two-
year old fillies; Bst 101 b each; untrieds allowed 31b;
winners of 200 sovs 51b extra; maidens at starting al-
lowed 31b; list half of the New T:Y.C. ; 19 subs.
B igpipes 1
Lady llawhurst
Matilda

Si.: ran.
GLADIATEUR STAKES.

The Gladiateur Stakes of 50 sovs each, h ft, for two-year
old colts; Bst 101 b each ; winners of 200 sovs 51b extra ;
untriads allowed 31b; tnaidaus at starting allowed 31h ;
last half mile of the New T.Y.C. ; 13 subs.
Badsworth 1
Le Saphir
• • 2
Duchess c

T.hre© ran.
SWEEPSTAKES OF 10 SOVS.

A Sweepstakes of 10 sovs each, for two year olds ; colts
Bst 101 b, fillies Bst 71b ; mares and geldings allowed 3lb ;
the winner to be soil, with engagements, f >r 100 sous if
demanded, So.; last h ►lf mile of New T.Y.C.
Sedition
Cressa f
Altisidora
JULY srAKEs.

The July Stakes of 50 sova each, 30 ft, for two year olds ;
colts Bat 101 b, fillies Bst 71b ; the second to save his
stake. New T.Y.O. 61 subs.
Rhysworth 1
Abstinence
De Were
Nine ran.
HANDICAP SWEEPS TAKES.

A Handicap of 10 sovs oach, for two year olds; last half

mile of New T.Y,C.

Sister to Veda 1
• .
Bagpipes
Alpenstock

Six ran.
PLATE OF 50 SOVS.
A. Plato of 50 sous ; three year olds 7st 7ib, four Bst 10Ib,
five, six, and aged 9st ; the winner to be sold for 300
sovs; if entered for 200 sovs allowed 71b, 100 141 b ;
mares and geldings allowed 31b. B.M.
La Belle Jeanne ... 1
Adamanthea

Five rau.
£lOO PLATE.
A Plate of 100 sow; two year olds 6st 121 b, three Bst 121 b,
four 9st 101 b, five, six, and aged, 10st ; mares and geld-
ings allowed 31b. New T.Y.O.
Grimston
Jasper
Atnadou .

Nine ran.
LATEST BETTING.
GOODWOOD STARES.
100 to 6 agst Cannon Ball (taken)
20 to 1 agst Lucifer (taken freely)
9 to 1 agst Cannon Ball and Lucifer coupled (t)

CARLISLE RACES— firs DAY.
CARLISLE ST AXES.

Hymen
Master Torn
The Iliad
Seven ran.
TRIAL STAKES.

E rolina
Roderick Random
Sister to Little Agnes
Eight ran.
GRAND S FAND HANDICAP.

llonesty
Puritan
Bayleaf
Four ran.
CUMBERLAND PLATE.

The Clown .
The Czar
Flora

Nine ran.
CORBY CASTLE STAKES.
Master Toni
Loney°,
Sleeping Maggie
MAIDEN PLATE.

Sorcerer .. 1
Harvest Home
Bachelor 3

Five ran.

LATEST SCRATCHINGS.

July Stakes.—Jove, King of Clubs, Lady Cecilia, Glen
Rosa, Dtkitelle, Eudora, Brother to Chattanoogn, Brother
to Cambuscan; Duke of Beaufort, Night Stroller, Little
Lord, Achiever, Bradgate, Pleuipotentiary, Rowelia.n,
Noyre Tauren, Wellington, Poetry, Chatsworth, Arch-
duke, Bellaqrutn, Moukshood, Miss Nellie, Dunbar, Pro-
tection f, Whitechapel, Troy, Cantina c, Bribery c, Hop-
lite, Maid of Masharn c, Quicksilver, Sea Wave, Vanichka
and Brother .to Ravioli.