The Sun.
London, England, 1868-01-28 00:00:00

on the last occasion.
Mr. Giffard said the first witness he had to call
would be
Patrick Mullany, who said—l am desirous of
being examined as a witness for the Crown. I have
been for some time a member of the Fenian Brother-
hood, the object of which was to establish a republic
in Ireaud, and to overthrow English rule in that
country. I occupied the position of a centre. I was
s'vorn in as such on the 9 ,11 .March last in the Tem-
perance Hall, Pollen-street. I•was sworn in by a man
named jt.ines Kelly, but not of one known as Col.
Kelly. I was afterwards introduced to the American
officers by the prisoner English. The names of the
American officers I was introduced to were- Gen.
Halpin, Col. Healey, Gen. Barke (now a convict
convicted in Ireland), Dr. Morrison, and some
more that I cannot recollect the names of. I now
remember another, Captain M'Cafferty. English
introduced me to him, and he said that I was a
decent fellow. We all then talked about
the rising in Ireland. Some time before the
13th of December last I had been short of work in
consequence of my men striking against me. I re-
' collect the latter end of November a bag being left
at my house. English afterwards took the bag away.

It contained revolvers.
Mr. Lewis—Did you see them ?
Witness—Yes. I did not count them. There
were also some powder and caps in it. I think the
bag was taken away a day or two before the ex-
plosion, or the day on which it occurred—l
cannot be sure which. I recollect of a meeting
being held in the neighbourhood of Hol-
born, somewhere near Little Queen-street. Bar-
rett was present at that meeting. I am not sure
that William Desmond attended, but I know Eng-
lish was not there. This was about a week before

the explosion. The subject of the discussion at the
meeting was the raising of money to carry out the
object we had in view. One man said,
" We'll soon get money, no matter how,"
and some of the other men volunteered to get a
pound, some 18s., some 10s. Arms were to be
bought with the money, and we were to meet at
the American Stores, Oxford-street, and report as
to how matters were getting on. We could not
finally settle there, and English said he could get us
a house in Castle Market.

Sir T. Henry—Where is that ?
Witness—Oxford-street. I now remember the
house was at a place called Oxford Market.
Examination continued—We could not settle
there, and English said we must find another
house. At that meeting, however, one man said
he had got 251bs. of gunpowder. There was some
sort of a quarrel with one of the men, whose
name I can mention.
Mr. Giffard—Don't do that yet.
Witness continued.—There was another meeting,
at which William Desmond, Barrett, and English
attended. I also saw a man who was very pale in
the face ; he had a hole in his two coats, waistcoat,
and shirt near the shoulder. I knew this man Bar-
rett as Jackson; he had a revolver in his hand which
belonged to English ; it was a breech-loader. They
began discussing the merits of the weapon, and they

said it was no good. There were five or six more re-
volvers in the room, but I cannot say to whom they
belonged. I saw a cavalry pistol loaded in the
room and given to a man. A man had got a
barrel, another was to get a tin dish to put at the
end of the barrel, to carry the light to the fusee at
the top. A truck was asked for, and one of the
men present said that could be got from a man
named Maddox. A man was sent to look out for
the truck, and he returned shortly after, saying,
" All was right." I knew where he had to gu
for the truck, and the man was about
the right time to go there. IVe were then
to meet next day, Thursday, at "William Des-
mond's house. I heard from Barrett that he had
been up at the House of Detention a couple of days
before that to look at the place. I saw Jackson and
another man on the Thursday, when he told me
" it" had failed, but that it was to be
tried again the next day. I next saw
Jackson on the night on which the ex-
plosion took place. He had his waistcoat
off, and another man's coat on. I chaffed him
about his whiskers. He told me he had taken them
off, and that it was he who lit the fusee.
Mr. Lewis—Repeat that.
-Witness—He told me he had lit the fusee, and
that he would be identified if he kept them on. I
asked him who was with him, and he told me. At
the time I was speaking with Jackson no per-
son was with him, but I afterwards saw a
man with his ear bleeding
in my shop. Jackson
(Barrett) told me he was going away that evening,
but that I should hear from him. I heard from
Jackson, before the explosion, that he had been
down to the court during the examination of a man
named Burke. He said he had two revolvers with
hi► . in order to seek out Corydon and shoot him.
He, however, told me he was going down to Scot-
land-yard the next day, as he could not do it at
Bow-street, as he could not get at him. He
again expressed his intention of shooting Corydon.
I know something about Greek fire from conversa-
tion with English. English said he had had Greek
fire on two occasions ; the first was about 12 months
ago. 1 knew a man had been mixing Greek fire in
English's house. English showed me the operation
and told me to take some of it home. I refused to
do so. I knew English kept phosphorus in his house
previous to the conversation. The Greek fire was
kept in ordinary black beer bottles, with gutta
percha caps over the top to exclude the air. On
another occasion he told me he had some mixed in
another form, and showed me some made up in tin
cases in his yard. He wanted me to take some of
them away, but I again refused. I have men-
tioned the name of Brown. I first became ac-
quainted with him last year. I then knew him
by the name of Winslow. I was introduced to him
by a person named Burnett. Brown wasacquainted
with English.
Sir T. Henry—Have you seen them together?
Witness—Yes.
Mr. Giffard—ls that man, Brown, the man in
custody in the name of Burke ?
Witness--Yes, sir.
Mr.Giffard—Those are all the questions I have to
ask this witness.
Mullany —I know a great deal more about the
matter.
Mr. Giffard—l have asked all I require at present.
Mr. Lewis said he should defer his cross-exami-
nation until another occasion.
Sir T. Henry—Mr. Giffard does not say that he
intends to recall the witness.
Mr. Lewis—l think I ought to have had an op-
portunity of conferring with Barrett before the
cross-examination. The evidence has taken me
quite by surprise. Here is a prisoner taken from
the dock and examined as a witness. I ought to have
time to confer with my client before cross-examin-
ing.

Mr. Giffard.—l have no objection to go on with
another witness or two, which would give Mr.
Lewis time to consider the evilence. I cannot un-
dertake to call the witness iNlullany.
Mr. Lewis—Then, under such circumstances, I
shall decline any cross-examination of the witness
at all. It is perfectly impossible for me to do jus-
tice.

Martha Kingsley examined by Mr. Poland—l
live at 8, Pulteney-court, at a house kept by Mrs.
Martin. Before the explosion took place at Clerken-
well I saw Jackson (Barrett) there. I did not know
his name, but I have seen him on several occasions
going into the shop and likewise in at the private
door. I have seen him once with Mrs. Martin going
out. I last saw him (Jackson) on the Monday
night before the explosion At Aire. Martin's be-