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politan parishes; but that plan was not seriously put
fey ward by any one either. Therefore, the only re-
maining mode was t) levy f.?es for burials; and if we
were to levy fees, the que,tion was, could we now fix
precisely what those fees should be, and could we now
tell exactly what those estimates would be? He thought
trey had no such estimates, nor did he believe the Board
of Health, or any other body, or even postponing the
clau,e for a few days, could enable the Committee to say
what fees would be requisite. If that were so, then we
must have a certain description of board; and as the
object of the board would not be to derive a profit, we
might rely upon it that if they found the fees which they
charge yielded a surplus, their immediate course would
be to reduce the fees to a point that would be sufficient
to cover only the necessary expenditure. In this clause,
whero it was said that the board should fix the
sums, he proposed to insert the words which were to be
found in many Acts of Parliament with regard to
tables of fees, and the rules of prisons, " with the
approval of one of her Majesty's principal Secre-
taries of State." We would then have the fees
placed before the Secretary of State, and he would
give his approval to them; and then they might
be moved for in Parliament, and if found excessive,
they of course could be reduced so as to meet only the
necessary expenses. The first object would be to ob-
tain the interest of the outlay for the purchase of the
ground; and the next, to pay for the services to be per-
formed. He could not see, if they wished to effect the
object of the Bill, how it could be attained in any other
way than by assenting to the clause with the verbal
amendment he had mentioned.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. SADLEIR still thought there could be no insur-
mountable difficulty in framing an estimate so as to
enable them to add a schedule of fees to the Bill, and
this might be done without jeopardizing the success of
the measure. Let them lay down fair and reasonable
fees, and the elasticity of the measure in the taxing
powers which it conferred, would enable them to pro-
vide for any unforeseen deficiency that might be found
to arise.

The gallery was then cleared for a division on Mr.
Stanford's amendment; but after a minute or two's de-
lay the amendment was negatived without a division.
The verbal alteration suggested by Lord J. Russell
having been effected in the clause,
Mr. D'EYNCOURT proposed another amendment in
the same (the 20th) clause, to the effect that " the fees
and sums" to be charged under the clause must not ex-
ceed the fees and sums specified in the schedule to this
Act annexed.

Mr. WAKLEY hoped the Noble Lord would agree to
this amendment. They could obtain returns from the
Registrar-General and from all the existing cemetery
companies, and he could not, therefore, conceive what
difficulty there was in obtaining the returns necessary
for making out the schedule of fees asked for.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the matter was by no
means so simple as the Hon. Gentleman supposed. There
were different fees paid for different classes of funerals,
and in different cemeteries.

Mr. SA DLEIR said every cemetery company in
England had bee❑ started 'on previous calculations. Go-
vernment could have access to all these calculations, and
could avail themselves of the experience of the various
companies, and he could not, therefore, see any difficulty
in the Board of Health preparing a schedule of fees at
once.

The Committee then divided, when there appeared—
For the proviso ...
Against it
Majority ...
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... 171
..--107

On the question That the clause be agreed to,
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Sir BENJAMIN HALL wished Co know who were
the officers who would have to carry out the Act, as the
amount of fees charged would probably depend a good
deal on the character of the persons selected.
Sir GEORGE GREY said the present board consisted
of his Noble Friend the Member for Totnes (Lord Sey-
mour), his Noble Friend the Member for Bath (Lord
Ashley), and Mr. Chadwick, who was the only paid
member of the board. By a clause already agreed to, a
power was given to appoint one other paid member.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but the clause
was agreed to without a division.
Clauses 21 and 22 were also agreed to.
On clause 23,

Lord DUDLEY STUART said he thought the clause
was one requiring explanation.
Mr. BRIGHT said they appeared to be running in the
opposite extreme from their past indifference. By this
clause no grave was to be made within 200 yards of a
dwelling-house. He thought such a space unnecessary,
and calculated to cruse considerable expense.
Load ASHLEY said the Board of Health had been
called to account by scientific men for not making a
considerably deeper margin. There could be no doubt
but that for sanitary purposes 200 yards was the very
smallest distance that could be allowed, as within that
distance the water of wells would be rendered quite
impure.
Sir G. GREY said the reason why 200 yards distant
were taken was, that it was the distance fixed by Parlia-
ment in the General Cemetery Act.
Mr. BRIGHT did not see any reason why 'it should
be the distance in this Act because it was in the Ceme-
tery Act. They had no notion of the enormous amount
of rates it would bring on the metropolis.
The clause was agreed to, and the Chairman obtained
leave to report progress and sit again at five o'clock this
day.

Mr. OSBORNE asked if there would be any Supply
taken on this day?
Sir G. GREY replied that the order for Supply would
be on the paper; but whether or not they should go
into Supply would depend on the way they proceeded
with the Interment Bill, which was the first order of
the day.

MUNICIPAL CORPORATION (IRELAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a third time.
GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH.
This Bill was read a second time.
THE JUDGES OF ASSIZE BILL.
This Bill was read a second time.
IRISH TENANT-RIGHT.

Mr. S. CRAWFORD obtained leave to bring in a Bill
for better securing and regulating the custom of tenant-
right as practised in the province of Ulster, and to
secure compensation to improving tenants in Ireland
who may not make claim under the said custom, and to
limit the power of eviction in certain cases.
NATIONAL CENSUS.

Mr. CORNEWALL LEWIS moved for leave to
bring in a Bill for taking an account of the population of
Great Britain. It had been for some time the practice to
take a census of the population at periods of ten years.
The census of Great Britain was taken in 1801, and of
Great Britain and Ireland in 1811, and at decennial
periods up to 1841. Previous to 1841 the population
was counted by means of the parish overseers, but in
that year the office of registrar-general was substituted,
for the purpose of obtaining an accurate account of the
population. It was proposed in the year 1851 to use
the same machinery as was used in taking the census of
1841. The only difference would be in the superintend-
ence under which it would be now taken. It would be
taken under the control of the Secretary of State, by
efficient persons most fitted to obtain the necessary infor-
mation,—(Hear, hear.) For the last census, three
commissioners were appointed--the Registrar• General
and two others; but it was hoped that a better arrange-
ment would now be made.—(Hear.) The expenses of
the last census were 29,0001.; that is, the expenses
of the central offices were 29,0001.; the expense of the
enumeration for England was 58,0001.; and for Scotland
19,000/.; and the entire expense rather exceeded
100,0004 The expense of the two processes was in 1841
divided between the national exchequer and the local
funds. The parishes paid the portion of the expense
that consisted of the cost of enumeration, and the Trea-
sury paid the expense of the central office. The parishes
therefore paid over 70,0001. out of a sum of over
100,000/. By the present Bill he proposed that the sum
now paid by the parishes should be repaid by a grant of
money from Parliament. So the whole expense of this
census would fall on the national exchequer, and no part
of it would be taken out of the local funds. This Bill
would apply to England and Scotland, and there would
be another Bill for Ireland.

Lord GALWAY asked on what day would the census
be taken in 1851.

Mr. C. LEIVIS replied, on the 9th of June, as before.
Lord GALWAY said that as a very great number
of foreigners would probably be in London at that
time, care must be taken not to include them in the
census.—(A laugh.)
Leave was then given to introduce the Bill.

The House adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock.

THE JEWISH GENTLEMAN OF

HANOVER SQUARE ROOMS."
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

Sla,—Not knowing of any better method of pub-
lishing an abuse than through the medium of your
renowned journal, we feel assured that you will ad-
vocate our cause. We are, three sisters ; and on our
arrival yesterday, at two o'lock P.M., at a " Grand
Annual Morning Concert," at the Queen'b Concert
Rooms, Hanover-square, we took our places in the
reserved seats, and immediately a "Jewish gentle-
man," who was well attired in a black coat, entered
with knitted brows, and making a very majestic and
imperative gest with his arm for us to move, and we
searched in vain for our numbers ; at length, being
quite fatigued, we were compelled to place ourselves
at the end of the room, or among the societe melee.
There were many others also complaining of the in-
attention of the " above-named gentleman," who
permitted any one to move during the concert, and
occupy the reserved seats which were vacant, at the
same time admitting his friends without tickets, and
placing them in the reserved places paid for by others.
This imperious conduct is repeated frequently.
Abusing both the power and duty which devolve upon
this " Jewish gentleman," who is paid by each artist
to maintain order, consequently the unjust power
exercised by him over the artists and public induced
us to solicit the great favour of your inserting our
letter. We beg to remain, Sir, yours, &c.,
THE SISTERS.
Portland•place, June 5.

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