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London, England, 1844-02-24 00:00:00

cipation was at length tarried. You attempted to returns
supporter of Government for the county of Clare. I oppose!
him, and was returned by a majority of 1,990.—(Cheer9.!
Emancipation necessarily followed ; but you granted it in
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undignified way.—(Cheers.) That which you might Ile;
given to entreaty you yielded to necessity.—( Cheers.)
which we would-have received as a favour, was extorted by
triumph.—(Cheers.) And I am proud to say that noal".ot ell
atom of the insolence of triumph was shown by ray
men.--( Cheers.) Your union was a failure, because the serew
on which it was based were fraudulent. It was extorted
superior force. You had 175,000 troops in Ireland, and lit
t
spent 4,275,0001. in bribery and corruption. You earriel
in the spirit of the sheerest dishonesty.—(Hear, hear.) Jrber
land had 300 .oembers, and you left her but 100, when the
very lowest calculation showed that she was entitled to 150
least.—(Hear.) iVlien you granted the emancipation-4°i
you granted it at the sacrifice of the poorer class of voters!. W.
the 40s. freeholders, avd you raised the franchise to 101,;
(Here Lord Stanley whispered something Lord
Robert Peel. )—I know what the Noble L
cen;
whispering at this moment, as well as if I were in his
dence.—(Laughter.) He is saying that I consented t
annihilation of the forty-shilling freeholders. I did not con_ I
sent to it, for I think it was a gro,:s injustice. On that 38;
sion you raised the cry of " The Church in danger." The Plee,ue.,
Lord will find it in my book, that did not consent to th
struction of the forty-shilling freeholders. There aras,_°o
portion—l consented to abolish one past, namely, that
or,!ba
people who were not likely to live till a second election g
means of voting. I consented to the abolition of this,
cause it was fraudulent, as I would consent to abolish every'l.)
thing fraudulent wherever it existed.--( Hear, and cbee_e
But even if I did consent to their annihilation, it is nn :ear,
cation of your crime that I participated in it.--s-Hear!se
ear
It; iger.
and a laugh.) What was your next injustice ?
excuse, also, on account of the Protestant Church in de
It is the scapegoat of all your iniquities.—(Cheers. ) the
you think it secure even now ?—(Cheers.) You linow; ro,
privileges of the people of Ireland with regard to corpertfeol
form, that you might have bulwarks and outworks to ;004
the Protestant Church. And, at the present 01°'_had
what prevents you from doing justice to Irp.
but the Protestant Church ?—(Hear, and cheers.) k,
the Reform Bill followed Emancipation, and, as I thin it
consequence of it. At least I take credit for gisini.g., it?
strong support—but what did the Irish people get ul
You gave eight representatives to Scotland, with only ret
lions of inhabitants—you gave five to Ireland with eqh, oar
lions of inhabitants.—( Hear, hear.) To every one et leo
counties, having a population of 50,000, you gave an Inerooa
of one Member ; to those with a population of 200 A rite
gave two additional Members. You gave two Mosher of
the island of Anglesea—you did not give the coon /tho
Cork one. —( Hear, hear.) I wrote letters into oil
newspapers, and I wrote a pamphlet, which I put
hands of many Members of the House, showing the in1'"00-
done to Ireland with regard to the number of her rePretibls
fives. If we had 150 representatives it would be imp^ boa
to treat Ireland with the injustice with which she has hlt
treated. Mayo, with a population of 35,000 inhabitantte
only 900 voters; Cork, with an agricultural lßith
75,000 inhabitants, has only 1,500 voters ; while W3lei'
a population of about 800,000, has twenty-seven repr7, eat
tives in this House, and 36,000 voters. Does end (bat
imagine that the Irish people are so stuP,'"econy
they will live under such a scheme of too,
ment as this, every preference being made against? ?be
and every insult and restriction enacted against theta
cool
Noble Lord opposite proposed a Registration Bill, and e the
it through two readings in this House, which would ha,/ par
effect of altogether destroying the already Ihniten 100
chise of Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) Many, sche_,oo
on other occasions with the Government, on this ns—raised
voted against them. Under these circumstances thef,nion
the question of the repeal. It was brought under dis'"of
in this House, only one English Member voted in faslyotel
42 Irish Members voted in favour of it, and WO ay:1:400
against us. Then a declaration was made of the deter"; 00
of the Government to uphold the union, and at the sato&
the House pledged itself to remedy the grievances 8,,f "-oleos,
That pledge was made by the King, Lords, and,rijoasat,
and though it had not the legal effect of an Act of rar:iciarY
it might justly be considered one morally. After this eiet
Lion we gave up the agitation for the repeal, or remat,"ooA
for four years, but not a single grievance was tbst
We remained four years without stirring, in the her TO
something would be done ; and something was done' floole
Noble Lord's Bill passed the second reading, and thesis
went into Committee. I do not like reading donn,n!h ew,
this House, but there is one, the reading of wileosts
shorten my speech, because it contains a great deal foto itir
should otherwise be compelled to enlarge upon. I I°ool
plore the House to observe how we have conducted 0,01
here. Before we took one step more towards the ry„-oiatf'
the union, we formed what we called the Precuraor ''-001812
From that Society I presented a petition, and I tbs
l
it in this House. The Honourable Member then
petition, petition, which commenced as follows :—" We, the urtec7f
demand the attention of this Hon. House to our chin/ errs'
and equal justice to Ireland. Equal justice means sive;
identification of rights, privileges, and franchises or.m.„glan
plc of Ireland with those enjoyed by the people d
We respectfully, but most firmly, demand and insist 111:;d05r
identification. The people of Ireland are entitled to, a 5 tb°
have, an equality of political and religious freedom Viotti
people of England. They seek nothing more, they ri
contented with anything less. The petitioners thee w.ir TO;
to state the grounds of their claims, and said, that thviere",
sent object was to render the union complete and neje, IV
by making it a real, instead of a nominal lie,
changing it from a union of parchment inte.,;oo into
of interests, and affections." In order to carry the nw of
practical effect, they demanded, first, an equalisation
tos
elective franchise in both countries ; secondly, a Vlool,ll'
corporate reform equal to that obtained by Englann urig?
an adequate representation in Parliament; fo
equalisation of religious freedom with England and tod,:j
" Should the prayer of our respectful petition beg tt
rii,
irate
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who have subscribed this petition, are boand
good faith, not to seek for the repeal of the union. Or
ep
hear, from ..
the Opposition.) I drew this .sPe
(continued the Hon. Member), and I sig:3lo-0.5
" We tell this House that there are moral and physical to
in the Irish people which will hereafter cause many taaw,
that they did not avail themselves of the present oppr;000'
of consolidating the union." The petition concluded as Le tr
" We do loudly and firmly call on the House not to denattiSit
ligion by. making it a cloak and an accessory to eriziehire,
act now justly and generously towards the people,ef„
r 2
and to indemnify them for past oppressions by gonina,st
full guarantee for future freedom." I moved, upon •:00- •rj
tion, for an increase of the franchise. What was Inl'eraatj
My motion was seconded; it was opposed by the Gef,r
s,
then in office, and it was opposed by those who have
them. I will say that that reasonable and fair offer iptoes
have been accepted, and even if it were not, m 3114114 oatye
grievances of Ireland should have been instituted. 01;0
were defeated—we were scouted out of this floall.tbsliii,
knows little of the feelings of an Irishman who thie oiere.",ol,
could possibly feel otherwise than degraded, if he seq, JI
silence in the endurance of a wrong.—(Hear, bear.ibisk 'to
lect that I had the strong case of physical suffering tn..esetesl
Was it not our duty, by every constitutional Oros
endeavour to remedy the political insult and thh9os
sufferings of our country ?—(Hear, hear.) Ist. 00
more at length than I bad inteadeu .OV' 01
history of the crimes of the union since it w poi 00 4,
say of the follies of the union.—( Hear, hear.? a je:4olt
little more to say ; but, in the name of the people t Je-0
and Ido it expressly in their name—l roust proles/ pros
your prosecutions.—(Cheers from the Opposition.)ol 41 joi,
against them; first, on account of their nature. 0000%
meetings, every one is admitted to be legal ; ne:,
peached as against law ; each, separately consider .0, enbil
the calendar of crime a cypher. But, by multiply lit?_
you come, by a species of legal witchcraft, to ihenbe
meeting is legal, that meeting is legal, 3°-„D• gs
meeting is legal, but three legal Inee-00015,100'
one that is illegal.—(Laughter.) The nress:Apte.,
Ireland will understand that reasoning ; you tnitporol•K,
but you cannot laugh at them with impunity.
test is against your striking Catholics from the P:feordivrt
is no doubt of the fact. There will always 100 "7,lthre"
the commission of a wrong. The Noble Lord st% finisfe
a precedent, and he quoted me to show what; we
_that is
was. I was not in the House at the time, but h',..,%fleder.,
reached me through the ordinary channels. I "
has charged me with having packed a Catholiertitilleidas
not perhaps use the word " packed," but I thTrd'Olost
appropriate word to convey the Noble
..„..(Gioivrio
if not the word he used, it is equally signifinseo 0%0
The Noble Lord accused me of having unsafe(' trbaliO4,
Catholic jury to try a Protestant gentleman•
charge, and I admit that it is a very serious one;ibuitposi
had no public responsibility, I had the resPloold ottsr)
every gentleman at the bar must feel, that he 5 do:1;01,1
his case according to the rules of solid justice, ell, Bear'
decency and justice for any purpose vvhatever.noel
The case was that of General Bingham. ,e totolit
Bingham, who was a politician rather tavoure', th":40°01
of the popular party, and a distinguished nn" with 8,40,
upon the high road, to enter into an altercationioit 5e.40,10
man, which ended in his riding his horse ag bt forloder!
pushing him into a dyke. An action was brat..
the
It is in this case that I am charged with haBl rd
jury. Now it happened that the attorneYrie'464,
secution was a Protestant, Mr. John, lirriS aOlOOl
assistant counsel for the prosecution of 111 r. rek fron...;
was also a Protestant. Ido not wish to &n upon v"strrof
sponsibility, direct or indirect, which may rest...., 0 Dilm
I happened to be in another Court while the Ju`sf, Dr)
and I only came into Court as the last Polo flonebssfce
sworn.—( Hear, hear.) Whatever was d0ne,.......(11e.;e1f ee
Protestant attorney and the Protestant counsei
eacioaletisOri,
But was it in fact a packed jury ? Was it an_stot et
tholic jury ?—( Hear, hear.) No ; two FN.'. •040/
0
of --high character were appointed happened dap,
Mr. Baker and Mr. Travers ; and it htoce
larly enough, that Mr. Travers, in c",,soelther ge(Clielo?
taken ill, was allowed to retire, and bite,•'.oll vai
a Protestant magistrate, was substituted ro
cling a LAO /
I feel as much as any one the baseness of pa:;re;erit list
persons of one religion, to try a person golf (beef pro,
but I think I have quite vindicated myfibre otb rotri‘,,
(Cheers.) A list has been sent to me of 5.0101 of celloajtegi,
In 1838 a Catholic priest was tried for the er, fret
The jury consisted of five Catholics and se_.!ertitet
What was their verdict ? An immediate N:oothf'eb tilaa
without leaving the box.—(H ear, hear.) ir, whloepif
case of sedition, has been sent to Catholics' Bre
were ten Protestants, and two Roman found ParBl Pasr
who was tried was a Catholic. The jurY • gee ins.loors
without leaving the box.—( wore --- f
ciple, then, I say that there never was Cates „.stiet
tion than the insinuation that ten or Iv`
e tit or 8110151:10.,,P'
would perjure themselves on any accou yeeloile or'
Hear, hear.) A. #„.
Another complaint which I have to make ag
hear.) The out 0,
diminishing the jury list.—( Hear, jo the OttrA'
the array did not allege fraud generallY,r
strikia ay °let'
but a particular fraud, viz., the fraud 0 _ra _duienre..„(
In the plea it was alleged that they werehef traefepla
with intent to injure the case d said eooca'
hear.) I was not here when tt,
.112 beheerfect.,
Attorney-General for England—the" not
p
pb
tleman ever conducted a prosecution_ wis.s.hna bereber,:io,
racy and propriety—( Hear, hear) —I . 85
wo
that Pletber
sp
said that there could be no validity to vibe_ t 0,0!
persons were named; I beg to submitut. Tvi,";
dictment for the murder of a person u were 5.0(10 co
and as valid an indictment as if the flans
site rnietbe ePt BP-
(Hear, hear.) One absurdity of the opPo____
been joi_odt
be evident ; it would not be possible to cearor,Lo000
justice.—( Hear, hear.) Would it not, tali t pot
right, when fraud was alleged, and,. PFrod he jatterroat
to have courted investigation ? it
inmph for till, secoor,
proved, that would have been a tr. atid 11!_, the Loh;
General.—(Hear, hear.) He did wisely_ trial li7oo to oso
to his mode of action, to strengthen tnu
ervation °e:4llOJ
which he pursued. I have but one 01. e Asv, Of Aofe,
upon this trial, and it is this. Since tb ttLatdee
Titus Oates there has not been a more rj flear,iottormaa
that delivered by the judge in this case
thc%eoo,o:l
cheers from the Opposition. ) These are nee. pheboorq
I have to make on the part of
jos yorieo,
co%
And now I turn to you, eniureland
will do for the people of Wall t"Oti ..d$ $
You cannot be keeping an army Pelgat 1,.
that will not answer.—(Cheers.) ".,1 ~ou u"oo lile:`tenPots
troops for your colonies, or what vl.„1,000 ottaip
break out, if you maintain an array 0' what Pool ee;iti 61
in Ireland ?—(Hear.) Now, I ask Y° 000 Var.
do for Ireland ? I have learned tbruedgvia,—. has
of information from which I leoa