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London, England, 1844-02-24 00:00:00

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him, and was return •d bv a majority of 1,99:).—,(i ,tis
ISinansipation necessarily followed ; but ynu grantee!, Ist
undignified way.—(Chours. ) That which you mien,' ,10
given to entraafy you yielded to necessity.—("Cheers.srl
which we would have received as a favour, was extorted'',
triumph —( Cheers.) And lam proud to say that
000'4,,
atom of the insolence of triumph was shown by my ar%
men.—( Cheers. ) Your union was a failure, because Ps
torted
on which it was based were fraudulent. It vrs ext
superior force. You had 175,000 troops in Ireland, sa`,.e3
spent 4,275,00 W. in bribery and corruption. You care
in the spirit of the sheerest dishonesty.—( Hear, hear Yes
land had 300 Members, and you left her but 100. w" ,501
very lowest calculation showed that she was entitled toh.
least. —(Hear.) When you granted the emancipatv°otn o
you granted it at the sacrifice of the poorer class of
the 40s. freeholders, and you raised the franchise to ,
(Here Lord Stanley whispered something loei
Robert Peel. I—l know what the Noble h; se:
whispering at this moment, as well as if I were in .1 ts's
dente.—(Laughter. ) He is saying that I consent, t
annihilation of the forty-shilling freeholders. didinf
sent to it, for I think it was a gross injustice. On ta',Se ~
sion you raised the cry of " The Church in danger." Ts" the?.
Lord will find it in my book, that I d,el not consent to c•
struction of the forty-shilling freeholders. Therei.:tss.
portion—l consented to abolish one part, namely, .of
people who were not likely to live till a second election
means of voting. I consented to the abolition or th
cause it was fraudulent, as I would consent to als°l;sssees,
thing fraudulent wherever it existed.—( Hear, arta s sistS
But even if I did consent to their annihilation, iVsinns:
cation of your crime that I participated in it.—( befat'is?
and a laugh.) What was your next injustice? • Aosta
excuse, also, on account of the Protestant Church in "/30`;
It is the scapegoat of all your iniquities.—( Cheers' ) .
you think it secure even now ? ( Cheers.) You linsttietee
privileges of the people of Ireland with regard to corr
form, that sou might have bulwarks and outworks o'ol,
the Protestant Church. And, at the present alireire
what prevents you from doing justice to Well
but the Protestant Church ?—( Hear, and cheers.)ititisl
the Reform Bill followed Emancipation, and, as t„, it,
consequence of it. At least I take credit for gis-Ss
strong support—but what did the Irish people get S/00S
You gave eight representatives to Scotland, with only.t:hts-
lions of inhabitants—you gave five to Ireland with el e",
lions of inhabitants.—( Hear, hear.) To every oneSrceierS
counties, having a population of 50,000, you gave an toeiso
of one Member ; to those with a population of 20% bertt!
gave two additional Members. You gave two Met°llt
the island of Anglesea—you did not give the ecnts it)
Cork one.—( Ilear, hear.) I wrote letters
newspapers, and I wrote a pamphlet, which I Pot :1%11'4
hands of many Members of the House, showing the 01001
done to Ireland with regard to the numb ••r of her reProsa'
fives. If we had 150 representatives it would be ira,Pol:d
to treat Ireland with the injustice with which shebl
treated. Mayo, with a population of 35,000 inhabits,":7o!
only 900 voters; Cork, with an agricultural populs;
al
75,000 inhabitants, has only 1,500 voters ; while p` lea
a population of about 800,000, has twenty-seven rerr ot
tives in this House, and 36,000 voters. Does any tY
imagine that the Irish people are so stuP6oteif
they will live under such a scheme of t aft"
ment as this, every preference being made again'?
and every insult and restriction enacted against the card
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Noble Lord opposite proposed a Registration Bill, an to td
it through two readings in this House, which would "el OS')
effect el altogether destroying the already unite
chise of Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) Many, w"°o,assiS
on other occasions with the Government, on this ssirl
voted against them. Under these circumstances thgesal
the question of the repeal. It was brought under 'loot
in this House, only one English Member voted irt fa
0 d tali
4'2 Irish Members voted in favour of it, and 500 and °d 'ret'
against us. Then a declaration was made of the deter:llo3'e so!
of the Government to uphold the union, and at the ireVA"
the House pledged itself to remedy the grievances °,000,v,
That pledge was made by the King, Lords, and„uriatilete.
and though it had not the legal effect of an Act of pa deem
it might justly be considered one morally. After this4citc,
lion we gave up the agitation for the repeal, or reMalueatesf::
for four years, but not a single grievance was re
We remained four years without stirring, in the 7 Se;
something would be done; and something was da,;ee
Noble Lord's Bill passed the second reading, and
went into Committee. I do not like reading &I :it)
this House, but there is one, the reading of
shorten my speech, because it contains a great cleat
should otherwise be compelled to enlarge upon. I w°';itrel'i
plore the House to observe how we have conducted °roes',
here. Before we took one step more towards the ssriste;
the union, we formed what we called the Precursor
osed
From that Society I presented a petition, and I °loft IV
it in this House. The Honourable Member thent„tsirj
petition, which commenced as follows :—" We, the al'S',„`
demand the attention of this Hon. House to our elat",sperr
and equal justice to Ireland. Equal justice mean' "thep'l
identification of rights, privileges, and franchises forpg
ple of Ireland with those enjoyed by the people upostri
We respectfully, but most firmly, demand and insist ;alo,s
identification. The people of Ireland are entitled tossita
have, an equality of political and religious freedom ~
not
people of England. 'f They seek nothing more, they "ciarest,r
contented with anything less. The petitioners the",„ beir
to state the grounds of their claims, and said, that 'lntitest,,
sent object was to render the union complete an aces ose, ;a
by making it a real, instead of a nominal s ell
changing it from a union of parchment int°oiss
of interests, and affections." In order to carry the n ofi,~
practical effect, they demanded, first, an equalisatittrittl,
elective franchise in boils countries ; secondly, a ntrbitla
corporate reform equal to that obtained by Englailu'dspsi,
an adequate representation in Parliament; tbu,rstotivs
equalisation of religious freedom with England ando,teili)
" Should the prayer of our respectful petition be V.-stats,or,
who have subscribed this petition, are bound byinte,7s„Staso
good faith, not to seek for the repeal of the union. psi
hear, from the Opposition.) I' drew this 0d
(continued the Hon. Member), and I 9',0,14
" We tell this House that there are moral and physicat,s,
in the Irish people which will hereafter cause manYLall".:
that they did not avail themselves of the present orrrfor;
of consolidating the union." The petition concluded 35 pot Sr
We do loudly and firmly call on the House not to de bets
ligion by. snaking it a cloak and an accessory to cricafttlsel',:,
act now justly and generously towards the people°, In,
and to indemnify them for past opressions by gtvl°7l3streil
full guarantee for future freedom." I moved, upon sits egl
tion, for an increase of the franchise. What was taleeesol"ji
My motion was seconded; it was opposed by the G otetd
then in office, and it was opposed by those who hare op 0,,
them. I will say that that reasonable and fair offer rot's,
have been accepted, and even if it were not, sn est ot
grievances of Ireland should have been instituteds. 55
were defeated—we were scouted out of this House:, tlOtiit
knows little of the feelings of an Irishman who thin usietse,
could possibly feel otherwise than degraded, if he acgs e
silence in the endurance of a wrong.—(Hoar, beat"ai,lt
lest that I had the strong case of physical stiffering,t°oo4o,;ati
Was it not our duty, by every constitutiona'l9
endeavour to remedy the political insult and 'yore 'o',
sufferings of our country ?—( Hear, hear.) tea /s"'
more at length than I hail intended ery
history of the crimes of the union since it was Pas; Wed/
say of the follies of the union.---( Hear, bear.) f
little more to say ; but, in the name of the people sseatt
and Ido it expressly in their name—l must Pro'- I Prshli°
your prosecutions.—(Cheers from the Opposition.l4 41 I
against them ; first, on account of their nature. • , doe
meetings, every one is admitted to be legal ; beystt!'
peached as against law; each, separately considere.ueseibli
the calendar of crime a cypher. ' But, by multiplYsirty. ea,
you come, bya species of legal witchcraft, to illes she
itecf
meeting is legal, that meeting is legal, anasg'S ss
meeting is legal, but three legal Ittee" iseeristO
one that is illegal.—(Laughter.) The Joss nes'
Ireland will understand that reasoning ; you laarsece",cleree
but you cannot laugh at them with impunity. /
test is against your striking Catholics from the P'-eeecureetti
is no doubt of the fact. There will always he andi the eile°,
the commission of a wrong. The Noble Lord le pre lat,
a precedent, and he quoted me to show wha,t:t eatds%t
was. I was riot in the House at the time, but 111,etaetile
did
reached me through the ordinary channels. 1° s.
has charged me with having packed a CathnlicjSTirtheijeSi
not perhaps use the word " packed," but . I oTordlrbeili
appropriate word to convey the Noble
if not the word he used, it is equally signifie,4°,,, eseS-stl
The Noble Lord accused me of having arraYea. '1•10...t 'oarl",s
Catholic jury to try a Protestant gentleman. ", ars
charge, laid I admit that it is a very serious one•ibi/i000js"
had no public responsibility, I had the resegeuld totem
every gentleman at the bar must feel, that he 5 I not ° hoPii
his case according to the rules of solid justice, aTisearbsoster
decency and justice fur any purpose whatever.--`,soo,osle,ir
The case was that of General Bingham' hie tostsPesb
Bingham, who was a politician rather tavoura" trwseolij
of the popular party, and a distinguished offiee..ith ses,,
upon the high road, to enter into an altercation 7 ,calt
man, which ended in his riding his horse 14'7:: for tej
pushing him into a dyke. An action was brouts. letc'e arte
It is in this case that I am charged with he° rot the lee
jury. Now it happened that the attorneYneueet(t,ooote
secution was a Protestant, Mr. John, egos ssitst
assistant counsel for the prosecution of Mr- aSele eresee; es,
was also a Protestant. Ido not wish to shrin urn wsolSeit
sponsihility, direct or indirect, which may re't.ury 049 Vibe
I happened to be in another Court while the is,3o by
and I only came into Court as the last ju,rY;as don; eq.e,
sworn.—( Hear, hear.) Whatever was do ;._...(lWitelS
Protestant attorney and the Protestant counaefil
But was it in fact a packed jury ? es that ge
tholic jury?-( Hear, hear.) No ; two l'r° „ t
of high character were appointed °P°-peeed/
Mr. Baker and Mr. Travers ; and it " uroce °tle„)
larly enough, that Mr. Travers, in con'elther ge'lc beer.,o
taken ill, was allowed to retire, and
.o!tit
a Protestant magistrate, was substituted tors,,ing J...441e),
I feel as much as any one the baseness of Pa;lfereat rii`Og see,
persons of one religion, to try a person a
of er'e the;c i°r'sY"
but I think I have quite vindicated myself
(Cheers.) A list has been sent to me of soel
sots
In 1838 a Catholic priest was tried for the crl...!_n pro, AO 10
The jury consisted of five Catholics and serv_r_sies or_coce,„
What was their verdict? An immediniac;
without leaving the box.—(Hear, hear.) in etinytio:loti
case of sedition, hag been sent to
were ten Protestants, and two Roman rssod pro,,
who was tried was a Catholic. The jury !"_"11. saisetteier:e
without leaving the box.—( Hear, hear.)
more basilic
ciple, then, I say that there never was ae
en°' 00101700 f 'or
tion than the insinuation that ten or v
e its or anon of
would perjure themselves on any account phiO „erig
Another complaint which I have to make
sag'rrhecoro,
diminishing the jury list.—( Hear, hear.) in the
the array did not allege fraud generall
Itsasstriking sly ate
'°
but a particular fraud, viz., the frau ° eraudule° be
In-the plea it was alleged that they weree wets
e.,
with invent to injure the case of
.th
vt,ra:
_Pes //ca.,
whom ofer
rAI
torney-General for England—than
with more P _ „40_
'hear.) I was not here when It a; bee a,
tleman ever conducted a prosecution w s
not bere4oo,l3,
racy and propriety—( Hear, hear). J-
_a that plea
,74. 311 ,1
said that there could be no validity in , ishetn, geS>
persons were named; I beg to submit t. nott,oroit,„
dictment for the murder of a person unit 'Ter, ss i 5 oof
and as valid an indictment as if the name'
it, rule 'lt
end'od
nrrA.ie
tbeetne
( Hear, hear.) One absurdity of the opPes out the just
od,
dpeareu,s°,l no' eer
right, when fraud was alleged, an
if
Pfraud Atter ,ig,g
jbues ti evidentce. ( Hear,it
to have courted investigation ?
t
triumph (°!*
will, seeo.f:lese
wouldhear nothear.)
\bveo
up
iods si
not, 1.07
proved, that would have been , trial the swose
s o the ase, t epti
to his mode of action, to streng n
t eobser sat ion fls,„" rage tsa,
General.—(Hear, hear.) He did wiselYo 0, -
which he pursued. I have but one
the 43)1 d chorge sej
upon this trial, and it is this. Since e 01,.side heir, bids
Titus Oates, there has not been a mocras_._(Hetots
oj,
that delivered by the judge in thi3 c
le what :0
ou
cheers from the Opposi,ion.)
I have to make on the part of th...k you ae
And now I turn to you, and a's as_(llearcheerS;
Ireland • or
will do for the people of
etuallY "Iv d, to "sof
You cannot be keeping an army perish
at will Y°u hen's' 'loll/
that will not answer.—( Cheers.) ,11 You d° %telt-4
troops for your colonies, or what wl noo ioteoess
of .--A" A v
break
Irelands?out if you maintain an armyk
u, what u_e chs!lr
in —( Hear.) Now, I ash yu
h those -sabnAce _ 0)j v
Those are thperecrorap,of ire
do for Ireland ? I have learned t ro
_gee.
_t u
of information from which I learned what