The Sun.
London, England, 1844-08-13 00:00:00

Mr. JAMES—Did you never draw that money from
the Romford Bank ?—Term it what you please, then.
Mr. JAMES—Now I must ask you a question in justi-
ficationof Mr. Mann. Did he know that you had used
his name for one shilling of this 10,000/.?—l am very
sorry my recollection does not enable me to say that I
communicated it to Mr. Mann, but I always possessed
his power to manage his cash account.
Mr. JAMES—I wish to know now, at once, whether
you represent this money drawn as having been used to
pay the bond?—The principal and interest together
amount to 25,0001.
Mr. JAMES—Have you got no account showing how
you paid the 12,0001. or 15,0001.?—There is an account
showing it in Mr. Follett's office.
Mr. JAMES—Were you in the habit of going down to
the bank and taking away bills discounted by the bank ?
—They were sometimes given me.
Mr. JAMES—Is there a deficiency on those bills handed
over to the amount of 15,0001. ?—lt is so said in the
Romford books.

Mr. JAMES—Have you not had bills which you never
took back, nor their proceeds either ?—They went
through Glyn's in some shape or other.
Mr. JA3iEs—Have you not taken those bills for
15,0001., and re-discounted them for your own purposes?
—I will not say with regard to any amount.
Mr. JAMES—Then what was the amount used for
your own purposes ?—I cannot say.
Mr. JAMES—I)o you not know that after the account
for all the bank bills is made up, there is a deficiency
against you of 15,7561. lls. 3d. in the bill account alone ?
What have you done with the money ?—lt has been
used for the purposes of trade.
Mr. JAMES—In oil trade ?—Not all. The Romford
Bank has cost in eighteen years above 21,000/. in rent,
clerks' wages, &c.
Mr. JAMES—But what has become of the profits ?
They were small. Taking expenses, losses, &c., they
did not exceed 12,0001.
Mr. JAMES—AII of which you had ?
Mr. CHAMBERS objected to the mode of questioning
pursued by his Learned Friend Mr. James. The trans-
actions of the bankrupts extended over a period of
18 years, apd his client must be thought to be super-
human if he was expected to re:nembcr tha particular
purposes to which particular sums were applied in all
that time. It was really too hard.
Mr. Commissioner GOULTIURN thought the creditors
had a right to the full impression of the bankrupt's me-
mory at present ; and, therefore, ho would not restrict
Mr. James in his right of questioning.
JA xtva c.aill till lie ry alitca to know was, in what
particular channel the large sum of money he
had specified had gone ? It had been said by the bank-
rupt that part of it had been applied to the oil trade, but
he (Mr. James) could prove that not one shilling had
been so applied.
Mr. Commissioner GOULBURN—You have a right to
sift his memory to the utmost.
The bankrupt's examination continued—On the Ist of
July last, did you not have your attention called to this
deficiency of 15,000/. on bills, and 10,000/. in cash, stand-
ing against you 2-1 ,appose I had. I want further
time to explain that.
Mr. JAMES—Do you mean to state now that those
bills have gone in the oil trade ?—No ; not one quarter
of them.

Mr. JAMES—Has not Mr. Wilkinson, the solicitor,
taken from you 51 bills of exchange, which you, however,
did not give up till they were discovered by search ?
I believe I myself discovered, and gave them to Mr.
Follett.

Mr. JAMES—No, no ; were they not found in a drawer
at Aldgate ?—They must be old and useless bills, then.
Mr. JAMES—Oh, no ; some of them are not yet due ?
—I do not recollect any not due.
Mr. JamEs—Did you not open an account with the
Romford Bank in the joint names of yourself and partner
in the oil trade, and which you have also overdrawn to
the amount of 2,6471.115. ? Now, will you swear that your
partner knew anything of such an account ? Mr. Mann
is in Court, so be careful 7—l cannot speak decisively ;
but I have an impression that he must have known of it.
Mr. JAMES—DiII he ever draw cheques on the ac-
count ?—I do not know that he ever did.
Mr. JAMES—WiII you swear that you ever told him
that you were overdrawing an account to which he was
liable ?—I do not know that I ever told him.
Mr. JAMES—Then you mean to say that you began a
bank account to which your partner is liable without
telling him so 7-1: may have done it.
Mr. JAMBS—What capital had you when you com-
menced the Romford Bank 7-20,0221.
Mr. JAMES—And 15,0001. of that was represented
by the bond, for which you were paying interest 7
Many of the joint stink banks--
Mr. JAMES—Don't talk nonsense about joint stock
banks. I will ask Mr. Mann a few questions.
The bankrupt, Mann, in answer to Mr. JAMES, said
that he was partner with Johnson. Ile never knew that
those cheques and bills were negotiated by Johnson.
He never heard of the joint account opened in their
names at Romford till after the bankruptcy. Was never
aware that any.bills had been placed in the oil trade.
Mr. Commissioner GOULBURN thought the proper
course at that stage would be to adjourn, as the official
assignee said that a very considerable time would be ne-
cessary to examine the accounts.
Mr. CHAMBERS made application for some allowance
to his client from the estate, which was, however, refused
by the assignees. Mr. Mann, whose conduct they were
satisfied with, was continued in his allowance.
Mr. Commissioner GOULBURN then appointed Monday,
the 4th of November, for the next examination.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
(YESTERDAY.) •
MANSION-HOUSE.

A young m;;;-. vvdio stated his name to be William
Charles Prince, was brought before Sir John Pirie,
charged with having robbed Mr. Kipling, hosier, of
Cheapside, of a diamond pin at Doncaster, nearly two
years ago. The prisoner was apprehended in King Wil-
liam-street, in the City, by Sergeant Langley, of the A
division of the Metropolitan police, who took him into
custody from the handbill description of him, having
seen him in company with several of the desperate
thieves designated " the swell mob," on the look out
for prey.
It appeared from the evidence, that as the prosecutor
was walking in the middle of the day in one of the most
public streets in Doncaster, in September, 1842, with his
nephew, a person made a snatch at his diamond pin,
which was fastened to his shirt with another pin. The
prosecutor seized him immediately, and lieM him
against the wall ; but by an active exertion he broke
away, and when pursued managed to strike the pro-
secutor a blow in the face and knock him down.
He was, however, collared and taken before
a Magistrate, by whom he was committed to Don-
caster gaol to take his trial at the Wakefield
sessions. On the third day after the committal he
escaped from the prison, and was never seen by those
who were anxious to come in contact with him, until a
day or two ago, when Sergeant Langley apprehended
the prisoner, and accused him of being the fugitive thief.
The governor of Doncaster gaol had offered a reward for
the apprehension of William Charles Prince, and caused
hand-bills to be circulated; but it was believed that the
runaway had taken an excursion to America.
Mr. Kipling., upon looking at the prisoner, said he
had no hesitation in stating that the prisoner was the
thief.

Mr. Thomas Kip Hug, nephew to the prosecutor, also
recognised the prisoner.
In answer to questions from Mr. Humphreys, who ap-
peared for the prisoner, the witness said he had seen the
prisoner, not only at the time the robbery was com-
mitted, but for a considerable time after, the same even-
ing, before the Magistrate at Doncaster.
George Leadbetter (the Bow-street officer) stated that
he was at Doncaster at the time of the robbery, and saw
the prisoner charged several times in the gaol after the
robbery, and did not in the least doubt that the prisoner
was the man.

Sir JouN PIRIE was quite satisfied with the evidence,
and directed that the prisoner should be delivered up to
the constable from Doncaster.
BOW-STREET.

Patrick Larkin, a letter-carrier at the General Post.
office, was brought up charged with stealing severa
letters which had been received at the General Post.
office.

Mr. Peacock, the Post-office solicitor, appeared for the
prosecution.
William Blackburn, the inspector of water-closets at
the General Post-office, stated that, from information
which had been received, he was directed this morning
to watch the water-closets. At about six o'clock he saw
the prisoner go into one of them. These closets are all
self-acting. He saw the prisoner take a quantity of
letters out of his pocket and open them. He took some
bills and cheques out of the letters, and these he rolled
up and threw into the water. The witness then went to
Peak, the officer, and told him what he had seen, and
they went together and seized the prisoner. In the
water they found a quantity of letters and bills.
Other evidence was adduced, &Om which it appeared
that some of the letters were addressed to Messrs. Glyn,
Halifax, and Co., and Messrs. Barclay and Co., the
bankers. Amongst the papers taken from the water-
closet were found two cheques for 201., a cheque for 151.,
a bill of exchange from Constantinople for 501., a bank
post-bill 40/, another post-bill 101., an order on the
Postmaster-General of the Forces, a certificate for a
Hospital
a cheque for 1001., and a receipt from the Scottish
Hospital in Edinburgh.
The prisoner said ho was innocent of the crimo im-
puted to him.—He was remanded.