The Sun.
London, England, 1868-11-25 00:00:00

ARCHBISHOP MANNING ON Trir.E
GENERAL ELECTION.

At the annual dinner of one of the Roman Catholic
;harities which took places at the Albion, in Aldersgate-
;treet, on Monday evening, Archbishop Manning referred
the general election. He said that the great question
which had for its object the rendering of justice to Ireland
was not so ,intricate as some would suggest. Those
who considered that it ought to take a long time to settle
were people who really did not wish it settled at all.
Within the last ten days the people of this country had
peen performing a work which some prophets had foretold
would be universally marked with tumult and slaughter.
Ere for one had never believed so. It was true
:hat there had been much disturbance in districts
which had been excited by pestilential firebrands,
but those disturbances were not widespread.
rho "No - Popery " cry had most signally failed.
(\fen did not now believe that the Catholic Church
meant Antichrist, or that Catholics worshipped stocks and.
stones. The English people as a nation loved justice,
and to do as they would be done by, and he was convinced
that they would not wish to take away liberty from their
Catholic fellow-subjects. " No Popery" had gone to the
;imbo of all similar sentiments. The Archbishop's re-
marks were received with much applause by a large coin-

KELLEY AND SADLER.

These two men, who meet on the Champion tiourse on the
Ist of next month, were out for practice yesterday, when
their form and style of going was very critically scanned.
The defeat of Kelley in the late contest for the champion-
ship of the Thames with Renforth has by no means lessened
the confidence felt in him by his backers, who are very
ready in placing their cash upon him. On the other hand,
Sadler's friends do not shrink from supporting their man
to the utmost. The training of both men has been
attended to assiduously, and all the preliminaries of the
match have progressed without a hitch. At present the
ex-champion is undoubtedly the favourite with the general
public, and will probably continue to be so to the last.

THE SUN, LONDON, W EDNESDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 25, 1868.

MR. MURPHY AT BLACKBURN.

Mr. Murph-y came out in a new lien on Sunday last, at
Blackburn. He was discovered as a man of order. He
was to preach in a dilapidated music-hall, at Blackburn,
A charge of one penny was made for admission. There
was a large audience, consisting mainly of young men an
women, with a sprinkling of unruly youths bent on mis•
chief. When Mr. Murphy rose to deliver his sermon he
gave out the sth chapter of Acts, and had read part of the
first verse, when he suddenly stopped short, in consequence of
the feigned coughing which went on in one of the galleries,
After a pause of a few minutes, during which he gazed
gravely around, he said, "I am a man of order ; good
night !" This announcement called forth numerous appeals
to proceed. One man rose in the body of the hall and
trusted Mr. Murphy would not condemn the whole
assembly because of a few lads. These remarks met
with general approval. Mr. Murphy said his train
of thought had been interrupted, and he would not
speak ; all of them might have their money back.
If it was a week-day night he would do it, but he could
not then. He wanted to leave Blackburn as he came into
it—a man of order and of peace. The Sabbath he would
not desecrate for any man. Several persons appealed to
Mr. Murphy to "go on," one man saying he wanted
justice to be done to the town. Mr. Murphy
resumed. (Mr Murphy was said to be a Puseyite.
Would he reply to the charge ?) Mr. Murphy
told the speaker the sooner Popery and Puseyism were
crushed the better, but he would not speak to them then.
A woman cried out for her penny back, whereupon Mr.
Murphy pulled one out of his pocket and offered it to
her. A man charged Mr. Murphy with insulting
the woman by doing so. This Mr. Murphy indig•
nantly and excitedly denied, and amid great tumult the
meeting dispersed, almost all refusing to take their
pennies back.

PROGRESS
OF ELECTIONS.

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e Anglo-American Times.)

Besides the speeches of Horatio Seymour, two
leading statesmen addressed the people on the
coming elections. William 11. Seward, Secretary
of State, at Auburn, N.Y., October 31, said his
hearers were not to imagine that he was about to
purchase on Government account, all the outlying
territory in the universe, or indeed beyond the
magic circle of the Monroe doctrine. In reference
to his official duties and inadequate strength he
remarked, " I have reason to thank God, indeed,
that neither age, nor indulgence, nor casualty, has
brought me to great decrepitude, as persons have
sometimes imagined. Nevertheless, I certainly
have some years, perhaps enough for a place on the
retired list ; some wounds, perhaps enough for a
pension, if 1 were in the military or naval service.
Moreover, every opinion or sentiment of mine that
has a bearing on the present hour was spoken long
ago, spoken as I thought in due time, spoken either
concurrently with or in advance of political events.
So true is this that no one has mistaken either
my official views or political relations." He had
come home to vote ; the present was the twenty-
first election, the twelfth in which he took part.
He reviewed the last contest, showing the wisdom
of selecting Lincoln and Johnson, and the po-
licy pursued by each, that of the latter being
a continuation of the former. Secretary Seward
then defended President Johnson's policy of
reconstruction at great length, claiming that
it was merely following the footsteps of Lin-
coln, which consisted simply in opening the
easiest, shortest, and safest way for the return into
the national family of the people of the Southern
States, who now repented their attempted separa-
tion. He attacked violently the Radical plan of
reconstruction as proposed by Congress, denounced
the Impeachment project, and characterized the
doings of Radicals as the wild and reckless proceed-
ings of inconsistent leaders, such as kept Mexico in
a condition of anarchy through a period of forty
years, and which has left hardly a stable or peace-
ful State remaining in South America. He said it
was not his purpose to vindicate the part be took in
those proceedings, and continued, " I simply say
that, as I stood by the wise and magnanimous
policy of PreSident Lincoln in his life, so I have
adhered to the same policy since his mortal remains
were committed to an untimely grave, and I have
adhered with equal fidelity to his constitutional suc-
cessor. All parties frantically utter the cry " Let
us have peace." But the same is now needed as in
1865, the admission of loyal representatives from
the late rebel States into the Congress of the United
States, and it needs at this time. at our hands no
more, but it belongs to the people of those States
just as much as it belongs to the people of this
State, to say whether they shall live under
one form of loyal Republican Government or
not. It matters not whether Governors or Re-
presentatives are white, black, or mixed, so that
they be representative men, freely chosen in those
States by the people, not by outside compulsion
or dictation. " I shall not take the sword in hand,
or put it into the hand of any other person, to effect
a reform by force in those States, which I am sure
will be effected much sooner and much more per-
manently through the exercise. of persuasion and
reason. As little do I think it my duty to use the
sword to undo and remove what has already been
done in those States. Whether it was necessarily
done or unwisely done, the ambitious of parties
must come to reflect, with the close of the election,
and calmness and tranquillity must sooner or later
resume their sway over the public mind. It is pos-
sible that the dilemma of reconciliation may con-
tinue, and may require the attention of the new Ad-
ministration. It is in this respect that I deem the
present choice of the future Chief Magistrate not
only important, but perhaps critically so, as the last
two choices were so." The civil war closed in
!saving the integrity of the Union, and in abolishing
African Slavery. Those who preside in Reconstruc-
tion hereafter ought, like those who have carried
on that work, to be drawn from and represent
citizens who maintained the Government in the
War, and, in abolishing Slavery ; for success could
be expected from no others. " The attitude of
each of the political parties in this canvass is in
some respects different from what I myself could
have desired. Very great crimes have been corn-
; mitted in the name of liberty by the Republican
party of the United States. Nevertheless, the Re-
publican party neither rests under any suspicion of
its loyalty, or of its devotion to human freedom; nor
I can it tall under any such suspicion. The Demo-
cratic party, I do not nropose now to say with how
much justice, has not so conducted itself with cor-
porate and responsible action as to secure the con-
fidence of the loyal people in its unconditional and
uncompromising adherence to the Union, or in its
acceptance and approval of the effective aboli-
tion of slavery. I entertain no jealousy of
the Democratic party or its leaders, and no un-
friendly or uncharitable feelings towards that
great constituency. On the other hand, I cherish
a grateful appreciation of the patriotism, magnani-
mity, and heroism of many of my fellow-citizens,
with whom I have cheerfully laboured and co-ope-
rated. While they still retain their adhesion to
the Democratic party, how could I distrust the
loyalty of Andrew Johnson, General Hancock,
General M'Clellan, Senator Buckalew, of Pennsyl-
vania ; of Senator Hendricks, of Indiana ; or his
associate, Air. Niblack ; or of Cox, of Ohio, to
whom personally, more than to any other member,
I is due the passage of the Constitutional Amend-
ment abolishing slavery ? To confide the respon-
sibilities of the Government to the Democratic
party in its present condition would be perhaps to
increase the lamentable political excitement which
alone has delayed the complete restoration of the
Union up to the present time. The result of the
election, if favourable to the candidates of our
choice, will prepare the popular mind to accept now
what it has heretofore rejected, namely, the most
practical and easy solution of the national embar-
rassments." We need scarcely add that Mr. Seward
cast his vote for Grant and Colfax. On the same
day Edwin M. Stanton addressed the citizens of
Philadelphia at the Academy of Music. He replied
to Mr. Seymour's late stump addresses. He said---
"The men who nominated Seymour met in New
York a short time ago, and who were they ? Re-
bels, red-handed prisoners of war of the United
States, and their associates. (Cheers.) These are
the men who put in nomination Horatio Seymour.
Who put in nomination Ulysses S. Grant? The
great Republican party that loved this nation dur-
ing the war, under the Divine blessing, through
trials and dangers and all the vicissitudes of the
great struggle we have just passed through—the
great Republican party. (Cheers.) The first
reason, then, why we will prefer Grant to Sey-
mour on the coming first Tuesday in November is
to be found in the bodies who placed them in
nomination. And then whom do they repre-
sent? Grant represents the loyal heart of Ame-
rica. Seymour is the travelling agent of Wade
Hampton and Forrest." He then sketched Grant
and his career. Returning to Mr. Seymour, ho
asks, what reasons does he give why the banner of
the Union, its honour and glory, should not be en-
trusted to Grant's hand. " Seymour has charged
many things, but has he named a single remedy ? He
has told you of mistakes that have been committed,
of errors that have been committed by the Repub-
lican party; but in all this long array of charges
against the Republican party has he told you once
that he himself stands forth as the representative
and advocate of any measure of reform? For that
bis lips have been silent—he has been dumb ! The
burden of his song, beginning at Buffalo and end-
ing at Pittsburg, has been mainly about items—
First, of the expenditures of the Government ;
second, of taxation ; and third, of its extravagance.
Now what have been the expenditures of the Go-
vernmoot during the last three years which are
I complained of by Horatio Seymour? They have,
all of them, been expenses of the war, and for war
purposes ; they were expended to overthrow the
rebellion—a rebellion declared by the wisest states-
men of the earth, by all the foreign Governments
of the earth, to be beyond the power of being
I repressed. Yet it has been repressed—repressed by

the expenditure of money—and now he complains
of that expenditure. The agent of Hampton, the
agent of Forrest, the agent of the whole body of
the opponents of the war, makes this complaint
with his party, and no others. It is said there has
been extravagance. Extravagance where, and in
what items? Has he shown that there has been a
single item that could have been got for less ? Has
he shown a single grain of gunpowder which
could have been purchased for less ? Has he
shown that it required a less amount of gunpow-
der, a less amount of clothing, a less amount of
arms, or less ammunition, to put down the rebel-
lion ? Not a particle." Taking Governor Curtin
who was on the stage, he showed how he had sent
366,000 men into the field, and the enormous cost
necessary to equip and support such a force even
from one State. Then he asked, "Do you regret
these expenditures? Seymour alp they were un-
reasonable, but he has not shown another way to
put d)wn the rebellion. The inference is that he
did not desire to crust it—hence every dollar thus
expended was wasted. Of the $4,000,000,000
expended, Mr. Seymour has but named one item of
extravagance. The only one made by Governor
Seymour is the transportation' on vessels —the
number of vessels employed by the Government.
He says that thousands of vessels were chartered.
When this war terminated the Quartermaster bad
five hundred vessels bought and chartered, and by
the blessing of God by their means we were enabled
to throw twenty, thirty, forty, fifty thousand men
now North, now South, and throw them wherever
a rebel force was to be struck, enabling us in a
great measure to achieve the victory. I say that
700 transports was the largest number ever owned
or chartered by any Government, and our Govern-
ment did not exceed that number, although we had
the greatest rebellion to subdue that ever existed
upon the face of the earth. The War Department
bought—the War Department hired or begged--
the use of vessels and transports for the troops ;
and it is the glory and honour of the business men
of the country that they refused not to lend every
assistance in their power to further those efforts.
Horatio Seymour, in his speeches, however, has
brought reproach upon this glory and honour,
upon the merchants of Philadelphia who aided
the war for the suppression of the rebellion.
This denunciation of the war expenditures
and the extravagance of the Republican
party makes the constant burden of Gover-
nor Seymour's speeches, only he varies the
tune a little to suit the people of various localities.
When he got into the Scotia Valley the other day,
he put down his face and talked to the farmers
about the low price of corn and flour. At Pitts-
burg he talked about the wages of labour. At Phi-
ladelphia he got a smaller point, because he next
talked about the Secretary of War. He says, in
his Reading speech, the War Department has
had a great many war vessels, although he al-
ways thought this was the business of the Navy
Department, and would like to know how much
was paid for the vessels, and who got. the money."
The President is Commander-in-Chief, and, as
such, should know something of the depart-
mental duties, if as ignorant as Horatio
Seymour in everything else. Behold that gentle-
man stating that the hiring of transports belongs to
the Navy Department; it is the business of the War
Department, of the Quartermaster who moves the
troops by rail, stage, waggons, by steamboats, or
ships. Yet this man, who thus shows his ignorance,
the Democrats would elect as next Commander-in-
Chief. He wants to know how much, and to
whom the money was paid ; yet this very man had
been furnished with every item of the expenditure.
Mr. Stanton then explained his oft-quoted de-
spatches thanking Governor Seymour for sending
on troops when Pennsylvania was invaded. They
amounted to nothing, and it is a significant fact
that they were sent alone to a Copperhead Gover-
nor, and when Governor Todd, of Ohio, asked why
he should have been selected, the answer was,
"They did not need them." 'That he was not in
hearty accord with the Government, and that he
was compelled by circumstances to send on these
troops, is plainly manifest by his heading the
" draft" riots in New York city only a few days
after. He considered the election of Grant as the
only salvation of the country, and prayed God to
avert such a calamity as the election of Seymour.

The excitement in New York at the elections was
great, though the people were orderly. The day
was ushered in with a bright clear sky and a cool
bracing breeze. At an early hour the various poll-
ing places were surrounded, and before noon, so well
was it managed, that in many districts nearly all
the registered votes had been polled. The bar-
rooms and groggeries throughout the city had been
closed till after the votes were taken, but notwith-
standing there was some drunkenness in the after-
noon, and though nothing approaching a disturb-
ance, still some single-handed contests. Later the
crowds assembled around the offices of the principal
daily papers, where they remained till early next
morning. The 7 ribune had a great gathering, so
also in front of the Herald's office, though those of
the World, the Express, and News had little to
cheer them as despatch after despatch was an-
nounced. The Tribune got up an illumination,
the device representing an angel bearing in flam-
ing letters the motto "Peace." The next day
the Tribune gave the " Great Result," in big let-
ters, which were conspicuous also for its usual
habit of blundering in adding up two and two. Let
any one turn to its issue of Wednesday, the 4th
instant, and they will see a list of States, electors,
and popular majorities, giving a total of electors of
203. Let them add up the number, and the result
is that the 203- should be 193, which we discovered
by the impossibility of reconciling the Tribune's
figures with the cable telegrams, as 22 States were
given for Grant, which left 3 to be accounted for,
while 3 votes only were wanting to make up the
total he attained, that is one vote for each State,
although the lowest, each commands, is 3. After
scrutinizing the number of electors given to every
State, and finding them right, we hit on the happy
idea of adding up the 7ribune's figures, and out
came the blunder at once.

It is singular that we should be unable even to-
day to give the certain returns of the way in which
the States voted. The latest report leaves Arkansas
doubtful, while it gives Alabama to Grant, making
the returns for him as follows :-Maine 7, 28,000 ;
New Hampshire 5, 7,000 ; Massachusetts 12,
75,000; Rhode Island 4, 6,455; Connecticut 6,
3,041; Vermont 5, 31,000 ; Pennsylvania 26,
20,000 ; West Virginia 5, 8,000 ; Ohio 21, 35,000 ;
Indiana 13, 10,000 ; Illinois 16, 50,000.; Michigan
8, 30,000 ; Wisconsin 8, 15,500 ; lowa 8, 55,000 ;
Nebraska 3, 4,000 ; Tennessee 10, 30,000 ; Cali-
fornia 5, 1,500; Nevada 3, 1,000 ; Missouri 11,
20,000 ; Kansas 3, 5,000 ; North Carolina 9, 3,000 ;
Minnesota 4, 5,000 ; South Carolina 6, 6,000 ;
Florida 3 (By Leg.) ; Arkansas 5 (Probably) ;
Alabama 8, 5,000. 26 States, 214; and for Sey-
mour-New York 33, 7,374 ; New Jersey 7, 2,733 ;
Delaware 3, 2,500 ; Maryland 7, 45,000 ; Ken-
tucky 11, 70,000 ; Georgia 9, 35,000 ; Louisiana 6,
30,000 ; Oregon 3. 8 States, 79. The accounts
differ as to the exact relative strength in the House
of Representatives. The present House stands 165
Republicans against 47 Democrats, yet, as far as
indicated, the next Congress being 133 Repub-
licans against 79 Democrats, a loss to the former of
32. New Hampshire, Connecticut, Alabama, and
Florida, have still to elect their representatives, and
they return in the aggregate 14. Virginia, Missis-
sippi, and Texas have to be reconstructed, when 17
more. will be added. Against this there is a Re-
publican gain in the Senate in Wisconsin,
where Mr. Doolittle will be replaced ; in Penn-
sylvania and in Indiana, Buckalew and Hen-
dricks, losing their seats. The Democrats have
but one set-off against these in Senator Fre-
linghuysen of New Jersey, who will have to
give place to one of their party. New York will per-
haps return Mr. Morgan ; Massachusetts, Mr.
Sumner ; Michigan, either Mr. Chandler or another
Republican ; Minnesota, Mr. Ramsay or another
of the same stripe ; Missouri, probably not Mr.
Henderson, a half Democrat, and greenback redemp-
tion man ; and Nevada where Mr. Stewart's seat
will also be vacant next March. It is clear that
The Republicans cannot hope for the two-thirds
majority in the Representatives i thenceforth it

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