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for the 29th, and generally took precedence of other . on the fourth occasion he.had been emploved:O62lloDr:
tusiness, it would he taken on that evening, before the lie buginesq. The conduct of the -Recorder of-
.discussion on the Bank Charter .1 cebtvr aiorded no' ground whatever for the Bill.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, the Budget gas at ale iinfes Mr. PA li-NGTON had stated nothing with re'
a matter of interest, and w. uld this year be particularly and to the conduct of the Recorder of Worcester
so ; they could not, therefore, be sure that the discussion fat he was not perfectly ready to substantiate. .
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on it would last but a short time. M V. Sir
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After a few words from r. SMITH and
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE thought the Bank. Charter
might as well be postponed at once till the 6th of May. , GRAHAM, the order was discharged. . b
MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND). The County Coroners Bill was ordered tothaet
w trbe; -
On the motion of Lord ELIOT the Municipal Cor- , committed pro forma to morrow, in order to
porations (Ireland) Bill was read a second time, without • several amendments might be printed, with a vie.
opposition, and ordered to be committed on the 29th. consideration on a future day. r Wed.
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COUNTY COURTS. The County Courts Bill was appointed
In answer to a question from Mr. JERVIS. nesday next.
Sir J. GRAHAM fixed the Committee on the County
Courts' Bill for Monday next. On Mr. COWPER being called on to fix a
dropped order on the Charitable Pawn `Society B 1
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. Mr. GLADSTONE said he had to submit to the
A message from the Lords brought
up several Bills.
Hon.under ircual
Gentleman and the House, that, c
• ble
SUPPLY.deslra
On Sir J. GRAHAM moving the Order of the Day stances which he would name, it was not for the
for going into Committee of Supply. that the Charitable Pawn Society Bill should,
encleig
Mr. HUME said he had on several occasions, dnring present be further proceeded in. In reconun be
past years, submitted to the House the propriety of hay- that the Bill should for the present be withdrawes,„,
inn- before it an account of the expenditure of the House I by no means wished it to be supposed that the _u;
of Lords, which this House was called on to pay, and vernment was indifferent to it. The subject had in
which they had voted, notwithstanding considerable 0131- under the consideration of the Government on sevr?.
position. What he wished to ask was this, whether he occasions, and it was under their consideration at the
se Go*
should be able to call for any copy of a report of
present moment. Gentlemen appointed by seeiithe
the House of Lords, purporting to recommend an addi-
now engaged in investigations upo . e
vernment were _ to
tional expenditure of 1,0001. If the House of Lords day forte
subject, in order that the whole case, both as,
be. tit
thought fit to create a new office, or increase
the salary of an existing one, he wished to know what law and the practice of pawnbrokers, might 0u...4
means this House had of possessing the grounds on understood. The Government, therefore, tholligt to
which that change took place, because he had been told their duty, under these circumstances, to sugg,..., the
flatly that it could not be given. If an officer who had the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Cowper) to consent vf,
no duty to perform was paid 501. a year. he might be discharge of the order for his Bill. subs
paid very amply ; and if the House of Lords chose to Mr. COWPER said a Committee sat upon this
increase his salary to 1,5501 he wished to know what ject in the year 1838, and the House, bsd
means the Commons of England had of informing them- not been taken by surprise by the introduction 00100,
selves of the grounds of that increase.
Bill. Still, after the intimation of the Right mis
Lord STANLEY'S reply was inaudible in the gallery.
r. HUE said he had received no answer to the Gentleman (Mr. Gladstone), that the subject tivbe
)UstiquestionM ha under the actual considi ration of the Governmen” of
he had put.
Lord STANLEY said he apprehended it was in the should feel it his duty to consent to the discharge
Hon. Gentleman's power to move for any information he the Order.--The Bill, therefore, is lost. the
might require. On the motion of Lord G. SOMERSE ( Cst ti
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Mr. HUME then gave notice that he should move Dropped Order for the Court of Chancery tbjf
that the vote he had objected to should be deferred till Palatine of Lancaster) Bill was re-appointed for
Monday or Tuesday, when he would make a mo7ion on day fortnight.
the subject. AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS.
BOROUGH OF HORSHAM.
Mr. TUFNELL wished to know from the Hon: Gen- Mr. M. GIBSON then rose to move that an 11:
tleman opposite (Sir T. Fretnant!e) why the writ for ble Address be presented to her Majesty, rePregele
Horsham had not been moved when writs for the other ing that, in the opinion of this House, it is des coy
vacancies had been so? A vacancy in the representa- to obtain authentic information upon all matters tea
tion ought always to be filled up without delay. netted with the agriculture of the 13,611„1"
Sir 'l'. FREM ISANTL said he was not called upon to Kingdom ; that this information is s'l"tes
explain why the vacancy for this borough had not been ther deficient, so that at this time even et of
filled up. He presumed, however, that the writ of extent of land under cultivation and the amoti
summons to the House of Lords nut having been issued, re;
the Hon. Gentleman indirectly referred to had not ceased its produce, are subjects only Of vague con
that the total absence of all statistical kno eu8:1010
to be a Meber fta H. rie House of Comons
would not, omf
couorse,h issueouse a writ for a Member unm til an reference to this important subject, has at vino!
actual vacancy occurred. times proved detrimental to the public interests for
Lard J. RUSSELL said the Hon. Gentleman who praying her Majesty to devise measurestioet
had las: spoken asserted that he had nu know- supplying to Parliament, from time to under
ledge on this subject, and he was not answerable statements of the breadth of land re
for what the Government took no particular interest in. cultivation for each species of produce rived
The Government ought to feel an interest wherever in- spectively, and the amount of produce de iv'
jury was done, and there was no greater injury to the from the same; together with such otheri
ssse
'
as s
public than when a borough was left without its repre- formation as will exhibit as far nracticab,
ow,
perfect sentative.—(Hear, hear.) It was notorious that no one view of the ' agricultural capability ane r: 0
_s,
could sit as a member there when he had become a Mem- duction of the United Kingdom. He said the w.tielt
ter of' the other House. The non-issuing of the writ in
of which he had given notice contained wit!'itl3ojoS:
question might occur from s ime delay or neglect, but if
continued, then he (Lord John Russell) should consider much of the argument by which he intended
it necessary to bring the subject formally under the port it. He hoped that Hon. Gentlemen NOureveot
consideration of the House, in order to the application of alloy their differences on other questions to Pviols
a remedy.- (Hear, hear.) their agreeing on this one ; he trusted that theY.,,,eriti'
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SUPPLY. allow this question to rest exclusively on its 0
eption
Sir GEORGE CLERK thought that as some discus- nor consider that it had any end, meaning, or 111060
sion was likely to take place before going into Commit in view,
tee of Supply, it was as well that he should state what but that which the words of the vs° 0,,
implied. He should be enabled to show that
could oar
estimates he intended to proceed with. He did not in- posal he made was a practical one, that it ceudo,"
tend to proceed with the estimates in class four - be-
cause some of teem were not yet printed; but he should be carried into effect by the assistance of the .01
proceed with class five, the Colonial Estimates; with class ment, that it was not only practicable kilt 0,00
six, and with class seven. and that the information he desired to obtain 0,
{LEFT SITTINO.I be useful, not only to agriculturists, but „isslrj
commercial classes, and would be coeutibe'le,,
the general welfare of the community. -ble
it was unnecessary for him to say a word her
-op
general advantage of statistical information biloOr
great interests of the country, not merely Vototteo;
phers and political writers, but to the practl ore ti
man. For he was quite certain, if facts iv oars
within reach, estimates and conjectures f000de;
be made use of, and legislation would be, 06
on those conjectures, often vaguely obtained, 4 Dr
ought to be founded only on facts. Parliaroc
fact
already recognised the advantage of collectiogossfi
in reference to the different interests of the ,c it
by the expense it had incurred and the trouhierotiotoi;
taken at various times, for procuring such intb.r 0(11 j
For instance, on the number of the people, thelwet
(to some extent), their resources, their P° wed'
for the classification of the facts thus obterposor
would not only, be advantageous to the Gev,eb sefeb
itself to possess the statistical information so obi°,
ence to the productive industry of the countrYoll:,
he was seeking to obtain ; but also to the
themselves who were most interested in theii;
branches of industry. It was very- desireobJerj
they should have accurate information on thereon
There was no doubt that the misapplication eiooto,
in this country frequently arose from the nt yeti
accurate statistical information. This arguineso esirts
lierly applied to agriculture, and he therk'soregm
on her Majesty's Government to devise we:, ton
supply the country with accurate statements dull,
quantity of land under cultivation, and the he ellito
kinds of agricultural productions which t Of so,
vated land of the country brought forth• the rti
information they would be enabled to sole in
blem of the proportion of the food produ'enss.
country to the population. They would be poi
ers.
to compare the relative increase of food an: rest ts
tion in different years, by comparing the dirt desire
turns with succeeding years. He did n°t ibeu
introduce a corn-law discussion, and he art°lo
guard himself against any misunderstatgliN,
this point. It might be inferred that sort,'
mentioning his desire to obtain the b; Olt(
tion of food to the population of ta e,
try, that he was thereby advocating _eoll es
peal of the corn-laws as a contingent •P'eosS of
and that he based his support of free trade 1e oecies,
the ground that the country did not prOatlee 9 it it
corn for the consumption of the populestiee'sesddect;
he would be just as strong a supportsw of free.lolll'lt.
corn, even if the country produced ten tirae'e ectv
as was sufficient tor the consumption Of to 09, es'
The reason he advocated free trade in Otro 191 odi
he believed it to he a civil right. Freed% 0 ;Iv
change he conceived to be a civil right, °I" whic oof
he would ever support it. The inforrnatiolilto pole
was then seeking would be eminentlyysefu 1100
connected with, and engaged in, agriculture;
aiobled
agriculturists had the means of knowiefithe ese/Sr,r
of
-the produce of the country they woti" opolldytissr
to form data which would afford them an °l's 01 eO.
of applying greater skill in the cultivatie btel,got
land. A merchant could not carry on bleoleS;st
unless he had the advantage of tabular s,usti' lea
imports and exports which related to w'er t
and he (Mr. Gibson) believed that the far°„ este,vet7
agriculturist would be enabled to the sai-egsl
make use of similar information as a sort 0001
cultivation.—(Hear, hear.) In that intbreode
farmer and the agriculturist were new
deficient. They had not the smallest date te°
world by which they could ascertain thetorploi
land which was strider cultivation in this o
ht",
what amount of produce the land br_e lseariiid,'
They had indeed geographical . and trig °IV of
surveys, but they wanted more than the* a the lot
eminent writers on political econornY) °had Ice
eminent writers on social improvement: wb 071,
witted the total absence of that infortvsatl°ol.oo,
was then calling on. her Majesty's L1"„900,100,,,e'
furnish to the country. Mr. Porter, a, -tot s'000;
..he knew would carry weight with it let the riotiof
in his celebrated work on the progress ?'iiiforles
regretted the total absence of statistico 3 00'
of this description. To give the House I)ci jastefa;
the necessity of this information, he sc°ll at flnoetrhS
that a short time ago the Earl of Esses't tbeC'or fro,
law meeting, expressed his firm belief the food f
was fully capable of producing sufficient ) Gel
consumption of the population. The iSibsoa'°,oioh'e
entertained similar views to his (Mr;; tirg t;')
a different opinion, and these copal 10 eo;,
showed how necessary it was ic()Oesr'otvot
information he was then seeking. of the o 0
Mr. Porter, in his book on the progree!„for°llisa.ro
remarked that, owing to the want of
of ere
the time of the most limited harvests "'COnr_t
curred for a great number of years, ,e 04,
continued to fall, until it was ascertal?eo .00,1 Ord
was a scarcity of corn, and then the Prle
its 4
up. He alluded to the year 1837.8..0000tee Yea
fore be seen that the want of this In
and god_ea
disadvantageous both to the consul in inn,„,
ducer, inasmuch as the absence o,ct vial iej
caused great fluctuation in price- louse,
thority had great weight in that , twit Ptborl"be
properly so. He was happy to think ail to to
find very little difficulty in giviPg
for the propriety of the. course he receddressePool
House. In the first place, haled 11 bola 1,4 0:reo
to the agrieultural gentlemen, tit he s at. 18° oc:6`,/,
to the Committee which sat in they llerdfollbero,
subject of agricultural distress. bi "010,4,
one
nesses,of tihneosredveerratlo
psuLgeenstt
aonrseethnerrreen;
,ftteirn,
gt
was that there should be established in tilfi,o,tt ,
cultural statistics. It was suggested o total :3 re 9
mittee, that as such a system was stares, °roes,'
chants—guiding them in their advellerosae_,ioP;ci
'kiting the hazards they would ewsonalf
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ought to be, and might most edvantag'looloToslerve
duced into the transactions of the eel ply
farmer. But his mind had been Ills .pthe
directed to this subject, from Pe,ru_sis in ',eel frei3O
written by the Right Hon. Gentie'7,ooPotlellito,
(Mr. Lefevre), and which had beellssro. Ge et
the experience derived by that Right
had ref:steer IP
as a member of the Committee Pin-that
The opinions expressed so Won&

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.

(From the London New Price Current of April 19.)
SUGAR.—The market has still an improving appearance for
all descriptions of Colonial Sugar; merchants refrain from
bringing forward large parcels, and a further advance has taken
place in prices. For West India Muscovado the demand has
been brisk for every desdription for the scale and pan; the
market has been nearly cleared, and the rates paid are 6d above
those of this day week.
To-day a fair business was done in British Plantation Sugar
to supply the wants of refiners and grocers ; the rates pre-
viously established were fully sustained ; dry brown is not to
be purchased under 61s per cwt.
REFINED.—There has been much activity in the refined
Sugar market : prices further advanced Is per cwt, and the
grocers have purchased largely o° all descriptions. To-day
large parcels of Rrfined Sugar were taken by the home trade,
standard lumps at iris 6d, and brown at 77s to 77s 6d per cwt.

AIAUIIITIUS.—This afternoon Mauritius Sugar met with
attention, and 1,029 bags at public sale went at very full rates;
mist yellow at 62s 6d to ti3s, low mid greyish yellow 59s to
61s, fine brown 5e- 6d to 595, and mid 57s per cwt.
EAST INDIA—This afternoon Bengal good strong yellow,
Dobah kind at 65s to 675, middling yellow 60s 6d to 61s,
fine white 66s to 675, middling 645, damp grainy yellow,
59s 6d to 64s 6d, sound grey 59s 6d to 63s 6d, damp white
63s 6d to 66s 6d, damp foxy brown, 51s to 55s 6d, washed
53s 6d to 565. In bond, middling yellow, 35s to 37s 6d, fine
grainy, 41s, ord 32s 6d, fine white 424, good 40s to 41s, mid
3Ss 6d to 39s 6d, damp and washed 29s to 32s per cwt
Ceylon Sugar 61s 6d to 63s for mid and good bright yellow.
FOREIGN.—This afternoon Havannah were offered at auc-
tion, and all taken in Is above the value, viz., fine yellow at
23s to 23s 6d, middling and good 21s 6d to 22s 6d, and one
lot good white 30s per cwt.
MOLASSES.—For West India previous rates are asked; Ben-
gal at 15s to 164 per cat; Madras Molasses, in bond, taken in
at 9s ; Bengal, duty paid, at 183 per cwt. To-day West India
Molasses at. 22s to 27s 6d per cwt.
TEA.—lmporters still refrain from offering any at public sale,
although thare are further arrivals; the trade generally have
shown more inclination to purchase, and in the lower aorta
of black and green a good business has been transacted at firm
rates.

RICE.-Bengal, good middling old white, I Is ; sea damaged,
first class lOs 6d to lls, second ditto lOs to 10s 6d, third ditto
9s to 9s 6d, and fourth ditto 8s 6d per cwt. Java at 9s to
lls 6n, and Madras at 8s 6d to 9a 6d per cwt ; Patna at 13s
to 1; s ; Carolina at 21s to 26s per cwt.
COFFEE-There has been little disposition shown to pur-
chase any description of West India by private contract this
week, and the trifling parcels disposed of have been at
prices in favour of the buyers. Moeha is diffi-
cult of sale, and the prices are still going down ;
This afternoon buyers evinced little disposition to do business.
Jamaica middling colory went at 95s 6d to 1002, low middling
90s 6d to 91s 6d, and broken 5s to 755. Demerara unclear'
taken in at 755, and very inferior 40s. Ceylon pea berry at
903 to 975; fine ordinary ;74s to 755, fine fine ordinary 80s to
84s, triage 45s to 50s, very low 12s to 19s, damaged 58s to 83s,
per cwt. East India was nearly all withdrawn ; Batavia pale
mixed at 31s to 325, and brown 28s to 295, the small part sold
went rather cheaper, very ordinary mixed Padang at 24s 6d to
255, and sea damaged 22s 6d. Rio bought in, middling eolory
at 58s to 60s, middling 55s 6(1, fine ordinary 4tss, and sea
damaged 33s per cwt. Ceylon, 59s is the nearest value of good
ordinary.
CocoA.-Brazil at 28s 6d to 30s per cwt; St. Domingo at
27s 6d for ordinary old grey, and sea damaged first class 21s to
24s per cwt. Trinidad, good red at 52s 6d, middling 50s to
51s, and middling grey 47s to 48s per cwt.
SPICES.-'This afternoon Bourbon Cloves taken in at lld to
11 id per lb ; white Pepper mostly sold at 6d to 6gd for good,
and 4d to 4id for ord ; Singapore Mace fetched 3s 2d to 3s 5d
for middling and good middling ; Singapore Nutmegs sold
rather higher ; middling brown at 3s 2d to 3s sd, good middling
3s 6,1, limed 3s Id to 3s 3d, mouldy and wormy is to Is 6d per lb.
Rust, BRANDT, AND HOL LA NDS. -Jamaica Rum fine
33 to 36 per cent overproof at 4s tid to 4s 10d, good 31 to 34
over 3s 10d to 3s 11d, high flavour 22 per cent 4s 6d, and small
parcels of common 30 to 33 per cent 3s 6d to 3s 8d per gallon.
Demerara at 3s 2d to 3s 4d for 32 to 36 per cent over-proof,
and fine 3s 5d per gallon. Proof Leewords at 2s Id to 2s lid.
Calcutta at Is 10d to Is 100 per gallon. For Brandy
prices have further given way :-Cognac, best brands of the vin-
tage of 1838 selling, hhds 5s 9d, puns 5s 7d ; ditto 1839, hhds
53 7d, puns 5s 5d ; ditto 1840, hhds 5s sp, puns 5s :2d; ditto
1541, hilt!: 5s 4d, puns 5s 2d : ditto 1842, hhds 5s 3d, puns
5s Id, middling marks 3s 5d to 4s 611, and low 2s 9d to 3s 4d,
and Spanish brands '2s 8d per gallon. In Geneva several
shipping orders executed at Is Id to is 9,1; fine for home con-
sumption is 2s 2d to 3s. English Corn Spirits 108 2d, and
Scotch and Irish Malt Spirits 12s 9d to 13s per gallon.
Saco has been little inquired for this week, 13s 6d to
15s 6d for middling and goad middling small pearl, and sea
damaged lOs 6d to 13s per cwt. Jamaica Arrowroot 6d per
lb, for sound. Saeo Four is less wanted. Bermuda Ar-
rowroot at 9ici to Is 2d ; St. Vincent's, 8d to lOid ; Tousles
Alois, 5d to 4d per lk. This afternoon fine small white
Pearl at 24s to 25s 6d; Sago Flour, 20s 6d to 21s 6d ; Tapioca,
5d to 5%d.
INDIOO.-There has been much activity in the East India
Indigo market this week, and prices have advanced for every
description.
COCHINEAL.-This afternoon Honduras silvers at 4s fid to
4s 10d for very ordinary foxy to good bright, and Mexican
black 5s 6d to 5s 8d per lb for good.
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TALLOW.-I'he Operations- n Russian Tallow on the spot
have been upon a small scale only, but holders are generally
reluctant to further give Kay in prices; 40. to to 41s per awt
is the value of P. Y. Candle, according to quality. For de-
livery in the last three months of the year at 42s 3d to 42s 6d
per cwt. Town Tallow at 40s per cwt nett cash. This after-
noon North American Tallow sold at 38a to 40s 6d, Odessa
Cheeps' "allow 40s to 40a 3d, Gibraltar 435, Italian 40a 9d to
41s per cwt.
M,OLts.—For Rape Oil, further advanced rates paid, pale at
393. 6d to 40s, and brown 3als 6d to 93s per cwt. Linseen Oil
at 27s 6d per cwt on the spot. In Olive Oil holders show firm-
ness ; Galipoli 521 to 531, Spanish 50110` to 511., and Barbary
46/ to 49/ per tun. Palm fine at 27s to 27s 6d per cwt. Cocoa
Nut 011 in steady request; Ceylon at 30/ to 301. ss.
Sperm Oil in good request, fine British at 751 to 761; inferior
731 to 74/ per tun. Cod Oil at 3415 s to 34/ lOs ; 34/ to 341
10$ i 3 the value of Pale Seal , 38/ to 31/ 10s for Southern.
This afternoon Palm Oil at 24s to 28s per cwt for low to fine
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, April ]B.
QUARTER SESSIONS BILL.
Mr. PAKINGTON had, when he proposed the
Bill, stated it as his opinion, that it would be better
that the measure should be taken up by the Govern-
ment. He had introduced the Bill with the entire
concurrence of that Right Hon. Gentleman, and he
would at once consent to the discharge of the order.
Mr HAWES was glad the Hon. Gentleman had
acceded to the request of the Right Hon. Baronet.
When he had introduced the Bill the Hon. Gentle-
man had stated that the Bill was rendered necessary
by the conduct of certain Recorders, particularly by
the conduct of the Recorder of Worcester. 'she
Hon. Gentleman had stated that no less than four
adjourninents had taken place unnecessarily. Now,
of those four adjournments, the first had taken place
before he received his office ; the second was an error
on the part of his subordinates; the third had been
made in conjunction with all the authoiities and