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London, England, 1857-07-08 00:00:00

THAMES CONSERVANCY BILL.

TEA. AND SUGAR DUTIES.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCFIEQUER gave
notice that in the course of the month he should propose
a resolution upon which to found a bill for the continu-
ance of the present duties on tea and sugar for two years.
A long discussion ensued on a point of order, whether
the Chancellor of the Exchequer could make such a mu.
tion on a Wednesday. The Speaker ruled that the mo-
tion, which was only a notice, was not irregular.
The motion was then agreed to.
BURIALS BILLS,

The order for the second reading of the Burials Bills
was read and discharged.

INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS.
The house went into committee on this bill.
Causes 1 to 8, inclusive, were agreed to-aLer some
amendments.
On clause 9

Mr. BOWY ER moved the following addition :—Pro-
vided, however, that the regulations of every such In•
dustrial Schools shall provide that a book shall be kept
by the managers, in which the religious denomination or
church to which every child admitted to such school,
or the parents or the father of such child, shall belong,
shall be entered ; and that every minister or clergyman
officiating in any chapel or other Owe of worship duly
licensed according to law in the parish within which
such Industrial School shall be situated, shall have free
access to Such book, and also to every child who shall
appear by such book to belong to the religious denomi-
nation of church of which such minister is a teacher.

Mr. ADDERLEY oljncted to the motion from a be-
lief that it would prevent the free action of the bill. He
denied that there was aoy desire to proselytise, and
thought the most effectual way to prevent it was by the
number of the Roman Catholic persuasion establishing
similar institutions.

A discussion ensued, in which Mr. Gregory, Mr.
"ewdegate, Sir G. Grey, and Mr. B)wyer took part,
le amendment was withdrawn, and the clause agreed to.
Clause 10 to 12 inclusive were agreed to.
On clause 13,

Mr. BA.RROW moved that the period at which the
chillren should be kept at school should be altered from
15 years of age to 12.

Sir J. PAKItIGTON supported the clause.
After a discussion in which Sir G. Grey, Mr. Lidde!,
Viscount Goderich, Sir W. lieathcote, Lord Ehrin9ton,
Mr. Akroyd, Mr. Kendall, Lord Ingestre, Mr. Barrow,
Mr. Adderley, Mr. RidLq, Mr. Spooner, and other
hon. member.,,
The committee divided—the numbers were—
For the amendment
Against it
Majority —llO
The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 14,

Mr. BARROW moved an amendment, that the corn-
pul•ory contributon of parents towards the maintenance
of their children shoul I cease at the age of 12 years, in-
stead of 15 as fixed by the bill.
After some discussion the committee divided.
The numbers were—
For the amendment
Against it l6l
Majority --83
Tire clause was ul imat,ly agreed to with amendments.
Clauses 15 to 17 inclusive were agreed to.
The remaining clauses of the bill were ultimately
agreed to.
Or the motion of Mr. ADDERLEY, clauses were
added to the bill enacting that children taken into custody
for vagrancy might be sent to school while enquiries
were made, and that justices might make a parent re-
sponsible for the Lehaviour of his chili.
Mr. COBBETT said he oljected to the bill altogether,
and on the thin) roading he should move its rejection.
The bill passed through committee, and the house re-
sumed.

OXFORD (CITY) ELECTION.
The committee appointed to inquire into the return of
Mr. Neate, the sitting member for Oxford (City),
declared the election void on account of bribery.
198 voters were employed and paid money, 152 of whom
voted for Mr. Nt ate.
MAIDSTONE ELECTION.

On the third reading of this bill,
Sir W. COD RING CON opposed the third reading.
Tidal rivers I.ke the Thames were likely to be obstructed
by the erection of wharfs, piers, and embankments, by I
persons not responsible for its free navigation. The
object of the bill was to establish a Board of Conservancy,
who should have power to erect wharfs, piers, and em-
bankments, and to, tax the shipping, using the river for
that pnrpoae ; two-thirds of the tax was to
go to the board for improving the navigation of the
river and the remaining third to the Government, but
it was not specified what they were to do with the
money. The gallant officer referred to the origin of
the bill, which arose from a dispute between the Go-
vernment and the Corporation of London as to the
shores of the river, and be objected to so important a
trust as the conservancy of the river Thames being
placed in the hands of an irresponsible body
the majority of the members of the board to
be taken from the Corporation of London.
He contended that this bill was too important to be
c nesidered as a private bill, and urged that it should be
made a public bill and publicly discussed. He moved
the third reading of the bill this day six months.
Mr. AYRTON asked the Speaker if this bill had been
properly introduced as a private bill, considering its im-
portent operation.
The SPEAKER said that, according to Parliamentary
praotice and usage, the bill (however large the interest
might be that would be affected by it) had been properly
introduced as a private bill.
Mr. Alderman CUBITT supported the second read-
ing, and gave a lengthened history of the dispute be-
tween the Corporation of London and the Government,
relative to the shores of the river, which had been under
agitation for a considerable number of years, and had
been repeatedly brought ender the notice of the public.
Sir DE LACY EVANS said that since the last time
the bill was before the house many objectionable clauses
, from the Cor-
poration of London, two from the Trinity House,
hal been omitted from it—one deuce to tax steamers
above bridge. He considered this a species of retrograde
legislation, and his principle objection to the bill was
the constitution of the board, viz., seven
and
three from the Board of Admiralty, the majority of
whom could at any time out vote the Government,
being unqualified to discharge this important trust.
Mr. HENLEY supported the bill from a belief that
it would facilitate the reform of the Corporation of
London. He considered the board independently con-
stituted, and he thought the Government had made a
good bargain with the corporation for the Crown. As
the owner of water-side property in London, he bad
no complaint to make against the management of the
Corporation of London.
Mr. AYRTON opposed the bill, on the ground that
the board would not adequately represent the commer-
cial interests of London.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
there had been two objections urged against the bill—
one as to the form of proceeding, and the other relative
to its contents. With regard to the first, the bill was
introduced as a private bill, according to precedent, and
he instanced a similar bill for the Mersey now before the
house. A private bill gave every facility
rot er o inter
before tested par-
ties to oppose it, if they thought pp ,
examiners. After entering into the nature of the dis-
pute, and the arrangements come to between the Corpo
ration of London and the Crown, whereby the former
conceded the metter in issue to the Crown, the right
hon. baronet defended the constitution ( f the Board,
which, instead of being sectional, was general, and the
beat that could be for promoting the commerce of the
peas.
After some remarks from Sir S. TRELA.WNEY,
Sir J. GRAHAM opposed the b ll on the ground that
the interests of the
.public, and the owners of private
property were not considered by the bill. Though the
clause for taxing steamers above bridge was withdrawn,
strong taxing powers were retained, such as leieneing
landowners to make docks and wharfs, the leasing and
Government
at metnhte l
bnoard for their concession cf giving to the corporation
taking tole of new piers and landing places. He ob-
jected to the formation of the. board and condemned the
oo of I douncdt onf
amajority
the
aGio
Crown rights. The board ought not to be one of nomi-
nation but election by the tax-payers.
Alter some remarks from the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER in explanation,
Sir J. DUKE said that the parties who had intro-
duced the bill, having complied with the forms of the
house, they ought not to be blamed for its being made a
private bill, and an objection rai▪
sed to it in consequence.
a shriller bill was
Only yesterday passed for the river
Clyde without opposition to i▪ ts being a private bill.
Referring to the taxation by the conservators of the
river, he stated that 60 years ago the tonnage on coasters
was from 4d. to 2,1. per ton, but it was now reducelto
id. and Id. By the bill, provision was made for the
disposal of surplus money. He defended the constitu-
tion of the board, and said that the members of the Cor-
poration of London were capable of effectually discharg-
ing the duties that would devolve on them under the
bitl, and that they would promote the interests of the
commercial community. H 3 should support the third
reading of the bill.
The house divided. The numbers were—
For the third reading 172
Against it .............

The commissioners appointed to inquire into the
return of the sitting members for Maidstone,
Mr, Beresford Hope, and Captain Scott, declared them
duly elected.

The other orders were disposed of, and the house ad-
journed at a few minu tee before six o'clock.

ALTERATIONS IN FRENCH MEDITER-
R ANEAN 11CAIL PACKET SERVICE.

Information has been received from the French Go
vercment that one of the lines of French mail packets
between Marseilles and Constantinople has been with-

drawn.
Various other alterations have also been made in the
arrangements of the French Mediterranean Mail Packet
Service, aed the following tatle has accordingly been
prepared, showing the dates upon which those packets
are now despatched from Marseilles, and also the latest
days upon which correspondence to go by them should
be despatched from London.
Genoa and Leghorn.—Every Thursday 11 a.m., and every

Tuesday.
Civita Vecchia and Naples.—Every Monday 10 p.m., and
every Saturday; and every Thursday 11 a.m., and every
Tuesday.
Malta.—Every Sunday 9 a.m., and every Friday.
Alexandria— Sunday, July 12, and every alternate Sun-
day, 9 a.m. ; Friday, July 10, and every alternate
Friday.
Jaffa, Beyrout, Tripoli in Syria, Lattakia, Alexandrotta,
and Mersina—Every Sunday, 9 a.m. ; every Friday.
Rhodes and Smyrna—Sunday, July 5, and every alternate
Sunday, 9 a.m. ; Friday, July 3, and every alternate
Friday.
Syra— Saturday, July 11, and overy alternate Saturday,
4 p.m. ; Thursday, July 9, and every alternate Thurs-
day.
Constantinople Every Saturday, at 4 p.m. ; every
Thursday • Sunday, July 5, and every alternate Sunday,
9 a.m. ; Friday, July 3, and every alternate Friday.
Mitylene, Dardenelles, and Gallipoli— Sunday, July 5, and
every alternate Sunday, 9 a.m. ; Friday, July 3, and
every alternate Friday; Saturday, July 11, and every
alternate Saturday, 4 p.m. ; Thursday, July 0, and every
alternate Thursday.
Messsina and Piraeus —every Saturday, 4 p.m ; every
Thursday.
Volo and Salonica—Saturday, July 4th, and every alter-
nate Saturday, 4 p.m. ; Thursday, July 2, anti every
alternate Thursday.
By command of the Postmaster-General,
ROWLAND HILL, Secretary.
General Post-office, July 7, 1857.

Majority
The hill was then read a third time and passed.
AND
CHINESE WARS.
teh,xepense EXCHEQUER brought
up an estimate of l•a,,f. ia mllion for the payment of the
moiety
and also an estimate for half a million on credit for
for the Persian war,
China, both of wl,ich he moved should be referred to a
committee of supply. The amounts would be proposed
TheTr
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in the course of the month.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that the first time the house
had received any intimation of the war with Persia

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being at a conclusion was when they were called upon to I 'NT 111 A L PARLI NT
pay the bill. (Hear.) lie thought the h•'ll£l4 wocil
abdicate its funet.ion, and would be unworthy of the

name of the English House of Commons if they did not , HOUSE OF LORDS.—(YEsTEr.DAY.)
reprobate such conduce at the proper time. Stull, a
COALWHIPPERS BILL.
thing had not occurred since the establishment of the
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House of Commons, in 16'40, to the present day, and it Lord RAVENSWORTH presented a petition from
had been reserved for a so-called liberal Government certain persons connected with the coal trade, against
with the present Prime Mivister at its bead, to throw a the passing of this bill.
slur and a stigma on the House of Commons. If the Lord KINNAIRD rose to move Viet this bill be re-
house submitted to the conduct of the Government in I ferred to a select committee, under Standing Order Na,
this instance, it wonid show that the noble lard had a 17.5, respecting bills frr regulating the (nal tradr,
better appreciation of them than he (llr. R)ebuck) had. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY said that the
Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY asked if one million would moti'n of the note lord was cut of order, and there-
include the whole charges of the war, and also the fore could not be asented te.
260,000/. already voted. After a few words from the Bishop of Oxford, Earl
The CHANCELLOR cf the EXCHEQUER declined Graeville. Lerd CoicheAer, Lord Stanley of Alderley,
and the Earl of Mahnesbury, the house dedentering into a premature cliscus,ion of the question.
The sum asked would include toe suit referred to, and Contents
it would be the whole of the demand for this session. Nor contents
Mr. SCOTT asked if there would be other charges to I Majority in favour of committee --4
be defrayed after this. lie condemned the conduct of COUNTY COURTS.
the Government with reference to this war. Lord BROUGHAM rose to call attention to the sub-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the ject of adruieietration of justice in the county courts. It
proper place to consider this vote was in supply, and appeared by the returns that a great many county court
then he would enter into a full statement in reference judges acted more by deputy than others. Nineteen of
to it. the judges employed deputies very rarely, indeed there

had been only fodr instances. Six-and twenty employed
none at all. He moved for a return of tire number of
days each judge sat in his court, the number of days he
had sat by deputy, and the names of the deputies and
their description. He moved for that return for the last
12 months.
The LORD CHANCELLOR could see no objec-
tion to the return. As to the deputies, according to the
law the county court judge was entitled to two months'
holiday each year, and he had authority to appoint a de-
puty, who was to be either another county court judge
or a barrister of a certain number ofyears standing; and
the deputies so appointed must be with the sanction of
the Lord Chancellor. The labours Of the county court
judges were now become so heavy, that it would be the
duty of the Government at an early date to consider a
better distribution of the districts, so as to equadse them
throughout the country.
The motion was agreed to.
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.

Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition from far-
mers and others attending Northampton market, pray-
ing for a uniformity of weights and measures.
Af er a few words from Lord WENSLEYDALE,

Lord BERNERS said that in the different markets
the greatest possible confusion arose from the difference
in the system oz weights and measures. He trusted the
Government could think the subject worthy their atten-
tion.

After Lord SPENCER had said a few words,
The EArl of CLANCARTY hoped not only that a
uniform system would be introduced into the markets cf
Ireland, but into the markets throughout the United
Kingdom.