The Sun.
London, England, 1844-01-23 00:00:00

THE WILL FORGERIES.

MANSION-HO USE.
Mr. CHAMBERS (in continuation from our Afternoon
Edition of yesterday) said—He demanded that the evidence
should be completed or a, valid excuse made upon oath, for the
apparent negligence of the prosecutors ; and, secondly, that
copies of the depositions should be granted to the prisoners.
Mr. Hemmen-, the solicitor to Fletcher, made some com-
munication to the Lord Mayor.
The LORD MAYOR—The depositions have not yet been
taken. You demanded copies of the depositions. The exami-
nations alone have been taken.
Mr. BALLANTYNE reminded the Lord Mayer that those
very examinations were depositions in point of law, and that
it was the duty of the Magistrates to have the depositions, as
they were called, made out at the close of every examination.
The Learned Counsel then proceeded to animadvert very
severely on the conduct which had been pursued in relation to
Griffin, who had been virtually told by the prosecution that
unless he chose to say something that should be agreeable to
the prosecution, he should be committed. He entreated the
Lord Mayor to bring the matter at once to a conclusion.
Mr. CLA RKSON—As far as regards the three first charges
he was willing that they should at once be committed on them,
so as to enable the prisoners to have copies of the depositions.
With regard to the last charge he asked for a remand, but he
begged that if at the trial additional evidence should be ad-
duced in relation to this charge, he hoped that he should
not be taunted with producing evidence which had not been
produced before the magistrates.
Mr. Cnameras characterised the offer made as pretended
candour, but real oppression. He demanded that Mr. Barber
should be made acquainted with his real position. He should
not have fresh evidence started upon him at his trial. What
he desired was, that, from time to time, copies of the deposi-
tion should be furnished to him.
The LORD MAYOR—No opposition has ever been made on
the part of the prosecutors to your having copies of the deposi-
tions.
Mr. WILKINs again complained of the conduct pursued by
the prosecution in relation to Griffin. The counsel for the
prosecution had held out an implied premise to him, which
was at ,once an appeal to hie hopes and his fears. He pro-
tested against this delay, as calculated to bring forth a host of
such witnesses, and to break the spirits and hearts of the
awned.
The LORD MAYOR—I will state at once that lam prepared
to commit the three prisoners on the three first charges, and to
remand them on the last. I remand them until Friday en all
the cases ; and when brought up they will have the evi-
dence, in the first three cases read over to them. I re-
mand them until three o'clock on Friday.
The prisoners Barber, Fletcher, and Mrs. Dorey were then
removed.
A person named Packham, who had been a clerk to Mr.
Barber, wished to state that he had not been given anything
for the use of his name.
Mr. Alderman HUMMERY—What is your Christian name ?
Mr. Packham--Robert.
Mr. Alderman HuMrHERY—Then you are not the man.
The Christian name given was Clarence.
Thomas Griffin was then placed at the bar, and the deposi-
of Mr. Pott and of Daniel Forester were read over to him, and
he was asked if he had any questions to put to those witnesses,
to which he replied that he had been taken by surprise yester-
day, and had no questions to ask.
Forrester amended his deposition, by stating that he had
made inquries in Duke-street, Oxford-street, and in addition he
stated that he had told Griffin that he had sought after
him for making an affidavit in the case of Eliza Stuart.
He stated that he had done so, and would state all that he
knew about it. I then told him that I had a warrant. He
then made a statement, which Mr. Weare took down.
Mr. Weare--I am a clerk in the office of Mr. Freshfield. I
was present when Forester apprehended the man Griffin.
Fel-Testae had some difficulty in meeting with him on
Saturday. I therefore ecoompanied him on Sunday
morning and knocked at the door. I asked if a tailor
named Griffin lived there, the p-rs +ll who came
said " Yes," and that she was his wife. At this time
Forrester came in ; I said I was sure Griffin was in the house,
and I should insist upon seeing him. Forrester asked. which
was the room, and she opened the door, and we srent in to-
gether. She knew Forrester and said her husband had
done nothing wrong. She went out and brough
him dawn to us. I asked him if be knew a
Mrs. Stuart, and he said yes. I asked him if he knew
Mr. Stuart; he said no. He said Mrs. Stuart had lodged in
the same heu‘e with him twelve or thirteen years ago in
Poland street. I asked him for how long a period, and he
said, about a twelvemonth. I asked him whether he had any-
thing to do Mrs. Stuarts' affairs, and he said he had signed a
bond to the Stamp-office, and got some letters by him, abou
which he was a good deal alarmed Either Forrester
or myself then said there was a charge against him
for having sworn to some paper. Then he appeared desirous of
saying all that he knew about it, and was proceeding to state
what lie-knew, when I asked him if I might take his state-
ment in writing ? Ile said, Certainly ;" and Forrester sent
out for some -wilting paper, and I took it. I produce the
statement. I took it from his mouth. I read it over to him.
Ile put his name to every sheet of it.—(The statement
was then read. It declared that he had lived in

Po,nd-street twelve years ago, with some persons
'named Sanders, and Miss Richards, an old lady who he un-
derstood was the mother of Miss Richards, and Mrs. Sanders.
Sa:rders was a fishroisr.ger, and afterwa-ds went to Bristol
take his Inother's bus:neis as a tidymongee. In 1640 the old
lade called upon hira, and a- ked him to become security to
the Stamp-oillec on account of some property left her by a
brother oho had died in Berkshire. Ile agreed to do it,
and she promised to pay him ter his time. She said she lived
in Solfthamptoii.terrace, Camberwell, and would send to depo-
-Runt. She afterwards sent word, and they met in Paul's-
'hair), and went to Pott, the proctor. The old lady had a
person with her, who had advanced her money. De-
ponent signed the bond. He met her again after,
and sloe- was accompanied by her solicitor. He was
eallecl'on to sign a pacer which he understood was the same as
beforb. He sigiied his name, and kissed a book. That was at
a different office. He got a sovereign each time from the old lady.
He afterwards had letters from the Stamp-office respecting the
duty. He •made inquiries -of pat, and was directed to
•Flet(ther, to Baiter? and to Mrs. Stuart. He then saw
GroNiana Richards, who said her mother was dead. She ul-
timately gave him a letter to Barber, who said he knew all
about it, that he was in treaty with the Stamp-office, and he
• should hear no more about it.

Examination continued—l then read over the affidavit to
him, and he said that he should never have signed his min,:
to it if it had been read over to him so as that he could have
understood it.

. The prisoner Griffin said be had no questions to ask, and
he desired time to procure a legal adviser.

The prisoner was then remanded uniit Friday next. He
was immediately removed in custody.

• - - ____
. DREADFUL ACCIDENT.—On Friday night the fol-
. lowing frightful accident occurred on the Uxbridge-road, near
Shepherd's-bush :—About half-past ten o'clock, as Mr. Pattison,
• pm., of the Hippodrome stables, accompanied by two friends, was
riding on horseback in the direction of Notting hid, Mr. Pattison,
' -who-was ahead of the other two, rode with great violence against
• • the -point of the shaft of a cart belonging to a Mr. Hannon, which
was proceeding in a contrary direction. He was instantly thrown
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-.• with great violence to the ground. Upon being carried to an
...,, adjacent public-house Mr. Bartell, a surgeon, wa, tent for, who dis-
TriV6l?ftecralitilfr.:Pattison's left knee was frigh tfuliy fractured, in
addition to sititev\injuries. Mr. Pattison was afterwards removed
C•••••:•••-- folio fathar's house, and Mr.'Liston, the eminent surgeon, was
called in, 'who iutnisdiately amputated his Jr
jg.
o(4' - formed of the rata At which Mr. Paths,
Per .. statement Oa pot/tap:tan, that subseque
Ins the light of hid Isrftern, picked up, i,
(:)\,
._:.i &slit forced from thll rider's knee.
;', Nutting ho Wolf Inquiry last n'
"‘-',.' tison (who is ahout 21 yeart of r Some idea may be
itly to theaccident he had,
, in was riding, from the
1 the road pieces of bone and
fhe horse proceeded unhurt to
,ght it was stated that Mr. Pat-
:taut an linfthlitable "4•""`"'"'' age} was in a very dangeNua state,
" ".-rw." A kid appear*,