The Sun.
London, England, 1868-03-30 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAZIENT

HOUSE OF LORDS—THIS EVENING.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his But on the Woolsack
at five o'clock.

PETITIONS.
Lord LONGFORD presented petitions from various
portions of Ireland, praying her Majesty's Government
not to disestAblish the Church in Ireland. In these pe-
titions his lordship entirely concurred.
HOSTILITIES ON THE RIVER PLATE.
Lord LYVEDEN moved fur returns of the accounts of
hostilities which had recently taken place on the River
Plate.

In reply, the Rill of MALMESBURY said it was
very difficult to ascertain what, or if any Eng-
listitnen were detained in Lopez's cuing. They
had confined themselves to give &Bivalves to the Minister
at Buenos Ayres to inquire into the state of the Eug
meu mem-co./L:od. All therefore they cuu'd du at
present for those English subjects was to make these
efforts.

The sulij.xt then dropped. •
RAILIVA YS (EXTENSION OF TIME) BILL.
`The amend►nents on tips bill were reported.
LEGITIMAC/ DECLARATION (IRELAND) BILL
This bill was read a third tin-hi and passed.
INDIAN RAILWAY COMPANY BILL.
This bill was read a second times.

ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES IN GREAT BRITAIN
AND IRELAND.
On' this bill the following committee were appointed :
The Lord Chancellor, the Archbishop of York,
the Lord Privy Seal, the Duke of Somerset,
Earl Stanhopa, -the Earl of Carnarvon, Earl of Harrowby,
Earl Granville, Earl Russell, the Bishop of London, the
Bishop of Oxford, Lord Redesdale, Lord Somerville, and
Lord Lyveden.
The Poor Relief Bill was committed and passed.
The Sea Fisheries Bill was read a second a time.
The Non Traders Bankruptcy Bill was read a third time
and passed.

[LEFT SITTING.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS-THIS EVENING

The SPEAKER took the Chair at four o'clock.
There was a very full attendance in the galleries this
evening, and amongst the strangers present were Chief
Justice Whiteside and Judges Keogh and Fitzgerald. The
gallery set apart for the peers was fully occupied.
The Lord Mayor of Dublin presented a petition praying
for the foundation of a Royal Institution in Dublin similar
to that at South Kensington.
Mr. AYRTON presented a petition from nine of the
jury who trial John Wiggins for the murder of Ann
Oakes. The'petitioners stated that although a verdict 8/
guilty had been returned and the man executed, yet they
now were of opinion that the man had suffered innocently,
and they prayed that inquiry might be made into the cir-
cumstances for the satisfaction of the relations of the un-
fortunate man.

A great number of petitions were presented on the sub-
ject of the Irish Church, both for and against its disen-
dowment.

FALSE WEIGHTS AND MEASTJRES.
In reply to Lord EUATACE CECIL,
Mr. HARDY said he was unable to say when the re-
port of the commission on this subject would be pub-
lished.

ROYAL ACADEMY.
In reply to Mr. COWPER,
Lord J. MANNERS said he was afraid the new build-
ing was not sufficiently advanced to enable the Royal
Academy to vacate the premises they at present held in
Trafalgar-square by the next year.
THE IRISH CHURCH.

The Acts relating to the Irish Church having been read,
Major STEWART KNOX moved that the fifth article
of the act for the union of Great Britain and Ireland be
road. (Cheers.)
The CLERK then read the article, which was as follows:
—"That it be the fifth article of union that the Churches
of England and Ireland, as now by law established, be
united into one Protestant Episcopal Uhurcb, to be called
the United Church of England and Ireland ; and that the
doctrine, worship, discipline, and government of the said
United Church shall be and shall remain in full force for ever
as the same are now by law established for the Church of
England; and that the coutienance and preservation of
the said United Church as the Established Church of
England and Ireland shall be deemed and taken to be an
essential and fundamental part of the union; and that in
like manner the doctrine, worship, discipline, and govern-
ment of the Church of Scotland shall remain and be pre-
served as the same are now established by law, and by the
acts for the union of the two kingdoms of England and
Scotland."
The reading of the above was received with loud cheers
by the Ministerial side of the house.
Mr. TREFUSIS then moved that the act setting forth
the coronation oath taken by her Majesty should be read.
This having been done,
Mr. GLADSTONE, amid loud cries of "Hear, hoar,"
rose to move the following resolutions :
"1. That it is necessary that the Established Church of
Ireland should cease to exist us an establishment, due re-
gard being had to all personal interests and to all indivi-
dual rights of property.
" 2. That, subject to the foregoiag considerations, it Is
expedient to prevent the creation of now personal interests
by the exercise of auy public patronage, and to confine
the operations of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners of Ire-
land to objects of immediate necessity, or involving indi-
vidual rights, pending the final decision of l'Arliament.
"3. That au humble address be presontid to her Ma-
j.c.sty, humbly to pray that, with a view to the purposes
aforesa.d, her Majesty would be graciously pleased to
place at the disposal td Paniaineut her interest iu the tem-
poralities of the archbishopric-, bishoprics, and other
ecclesiastical dignities and benefices in Ireland, and in the
custody thereof."
The right hon. gentleman said it then became his duty to
move that the house now take into consideration the acts
affecting the Irish Church, and in doing so he was glad
that the other hon. members had interfered, because
it showed that they were about to enter into the
consideration of a question upon a broad basis, and
that they were not to have a warfare of trick
and contrivance—(loud cheers)—but on the con-
trary it was to be considered on both sides of
the house in a spirit which befitted the magnitude
of the issue. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord opposite had
to his (Mr. Gladstone's) motion moved an arneud•nent
raising the entire merits of the case, and it cast upon him
the responsibility and luty to state the general nature of
his resolutions in antagonism to the amendment of the
noble lord. In acquitting himself of this duty, he had to
show that the time had come when the Church in Ireland
should cease as an establishment (Hear, hear.) For thirty
years there had been no sincere desire shown by the
Liberal party to open up the question of the Irish
Church. (dear, hear.) He had on various occasions
given votes in committee and partial motions oa the sub-
jects, and these votes he was willing to repeat. (Loud
laughter from the Opposition.) The Liberal party, 1
in his opinion, was not open to a charge of de-
laying the consideration of the question, because
they were not called upon to enter upon the question
until the time had arrived when there was a prospect of
carrying their views to a successful issue. (Cheers.)
He had made no secret of his opinions on the subject, and
the cause of his not being able honestly to say he was
against all interference with the Church as an establish

ment lost him) his seat for the Oxford University, and he
now sat in the house for Lancashire. It was not the
object of the motion to take away all the revenues of
the Church in Ireland ; it was not, however, proposed to
give o the bishops and clergy of that church, for doing
nothing, thoP.e incomes they had received for doing
something. (Hear, hoar.) They would still be called
upon to exercise the duties which they had
had to perform, and so they would continue to do so for
the remainder of their lives after the Church had been
disestablished. lie felt that the great fears that
had been expressed at the result of his motion
were not grounded on any solid basis. (Hear, hear.)
At present the Church as an establishment held its

,ion amongst an estranged and alienated population.
:Hear, hear. He felt that the result of the course

,he adopted would be that the Irish Church

would hold its own, respected by all, both in this country
and in Ireland, and that freedom which was so highly
prized by other denominations would not be an
evil to the Anglican Church in Ireland, but that by its

own internal energy it would maintain a position such as
it had never occupied before. (Hear, hear.) It was said
that if his motion was carried it would damage Protes-

tautistn, and prove most injurious to the interests of the

Church of England, but he entertained no such fear ; and

on the ground of the common good he asked the house to

agree to his proposal for the disendowment of the Esta-
blished Church in Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Much had
been said on ono side of the question ; but could any one

prove that the maintenance of the Anglican Church
in Ireland had been beneficial to Protestantism—

hear, hear)--that was a material point to show, and it

would be for those who opposed his proposition to state

clearly the good to be devised from keeping that Church

as it at present existed in Ireland. (Hear, hear.)
In his proposal he asked the house to do two things—
first, to make a declaration ; the other was to ask for an

arrost of all episcopal appointments, and ha did not soo

,hat any great evil would result from the latter rrrauge-
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men

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

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