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London, England, 1850-07-30 00:00:00

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ebiatirr.my;oirtel,ess:rtthan sixteen. He "°'lll n" 've
th'''t
th''
lereeeess tied eel; leave t , set neesitrif ..
itoeir, ,_ll t'.II,AWNY th'euetr, it wou;sl b e;er.
_. '-si
ha ecve allowed to move for the r.eurns to w teen 1
.Ib.llunedreletiie te the duchy of Co:ow:di'
ie hi; ORAIRM AN ask, d :Jr. flume, would he replied
rear "'°tion; and the Hon. Member having replied
leativsly
Sire 11 4 '
/ie;^- _S"3 were then ordered to withdraw, but a di-
d not take place. Oa our return to the gallery
`hroued
eq. Rte.
ettehlise inE objecting to their then creating a separate_
ebiy b unaent for the Prince of Wale,. That would tett! a eneeUraeing extravagance, and establishing a
'lnset f '
Nhrtye 4 or a set of idle individuals. They would then
oe by similar to the occupation cf Kensington
than h "Y Persons who had no more right to be there
If . e hid,
said, the reason assigned by the Noble
P4'hrldief;erhltheßPrePosal was, that it was desirable the
one she the
be merle aware that the building was n
Pereattneatly devoted to the purposes i ,
if the V.„Frr
G 11
4 tki_t ery. But it appeared to him Cdr. Brioe'r)r
tisal4t fact Might `aptly be made known without th i
Cole to the then under their consideration.,
QA ilei SIBTHORP objected to their then creatine
ll ettabli h itatti,er Meet foie which there existed no necessity
The c'e
ititas 4NCELLOII of the EXCHEQUER. said.
Was togbllite i
a na_stake to suppnee that any great expen,es.
iii4bi.. e incurred by that proposal. It was most L
r.
hoe Zeit the line of buildings forming Carltun-te
hit:ll,_ll,l4 be
*Cmpleted, and that the public should
tfte,7benefit of the new rents, which would. be paid teaffeetf;e44°Piion of that arrangement. But in order,
IN ut 'at- elld they should remove the stables at pie -f
the 00 itched to Alariborough House; and the object o iteeilt Proposal was to erect other stables in their
fileehik It
,Was not proposed that any establishment
hliki " ON Up at Marlborough House beyond what
th,
hut..tlnder ordinary circumstances, be necessary for,.
did 'b'etrPoss_aes of preserving the premises from injury..
al:
Notable
"eta to him that the proposal was in any way one.
.
had lIIIIE said, it appeared from the statement they
ettftiiittitt heard that the object of the motion
di_ ted
tech it' of Carlton-terrace. But before they
howa 'Pt
he
was the
Irrao prop
they ought to know exactly
he ihg,,euteat was to be card, d into effect. Besides,.er
e5eb.."11.41 he that there could be no reason I
aie""ttettrag the name of the Prince of Wales with such
kr, a'
)30e,',
07,LEY said he heard no reason why that
taeolefi tne Crown should hamper themselves by a
high. °ll with respect to what was to happen nine
1144 ii'Lre',..: -(near, hear.) Before the end of thatr
llits,-, might be• found desirable to adopt some other
lakhoetnent, and they would then find their discirrebteion,
IlidereYtallieatlY If by the proposal under the
f the
Crosthim If the stebles were the property
114 ' tnere was nothing to prevent its officers from
Vie. g,,swith them as they might think proper.
preen
thought the proposal was quite
ke With under present circumstances.
taYste W said that as long as there was any
e
duchiP7oiorespect to the income derivedfrom
of fe rnwall he felt it his duty. to resist any pro-
ed the revenues
tf tr 4 graat t the P • who "Joy
d o nonce,
gatb"ehY
loteeih; ee`OAN said it struck him that there must be Which ;hug Underhand in that matter. The stables
l'ter Period ,had heard 'ght sure be built at some.
4 reriod.
ay the The Noblealli;ord, in unnecessarily. voting
arie G Public
Lord,c,ainentE4l)neY, was doing vast injury to his
tate ~ etITSSELL said he was not asking for any
Ittliet,i'' et
Prin.. of Wales.. But if they were
.to
did sal it, 4110 ---
„er.nce
of "Tales, he
e narchy, and to have ar 1
"side 'e 13 whY that Prince should net have a house to
tir,4.,„.,.
an ade-
illloe 'ALE said he did not wish to oppose
144 Prciviaion fur the Royal Family. But the Noble
ottle e°44l not expect that the House o
I°4 6 I'l4° money for the Prince of Wales without tesy-
hla hrasa. as money
how the property which belonged to
theiht4ren raanaeed. They could not, however, at
44 tat
Lartn aoY judgment upon that subject. 11)14114 it detirable that they ehould unnecelisseardiliyd
kr.the, discretion of future Parliaments.
//era iltki'lluatt SIDNEY said that if tee Noble Lord
Nreed,°„; furee the Committee to a division. those
sun . Meet e, with
hina (Mr. Alderman Sidney) upon the
Heb
lei
_tlld be placed in a very ungracious position._sary
Previs'.° iatEini,ll ot refusing to melee every neceed to
Lire ti,°a for the Prince of Wales. But it appear
_u.
ttltre elmltbli't was then most premature to discuss the I
k ak. II 28htneot of a child who was only lain!. years
Of Co- After haying recently made a grant, which out
bear ors had been thou ;ht so extravagant—(Hear,
la he') a member of the Royal Family, it appeared
the ''' that hy their adoption of the present proposal
tedoottetry would be led to infer that they had nothing
keetewith their surplus revenue but to found additional h:rettod palaces for the Royal Family.
/,`:°alnaittee then divided, and the number4s6were-
4;irut'setta•fing propress
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tiaTealiede.resolutaliebaj,vrai:
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and the House re-
The e &SE OF BARON ROT .
'I. Coquestion that the House should re
• question 'HSClseHlyLeDitself
ukr p e„" of Supply having been put, into
qatio,.. iv ODD said reply to a question from Mr.
he inten-
tlee of ghee, that he washnformed that it way t
roe
yeti himselft"" on. Member for the city of London to p
keel,. at the table of the House at twelve o'clock
to
erre- .
44tier,,,ewal of
kret "' (this day).—(Hear, hear.) With respectmis.
the discussion, he feared he had been
said
ieti, t',‘'°4 in what he had stated. What he .
t hadn before
ths ti. 4t
at Present there was only one question .0 s
1,1,e itig"buteek, arid that he should reserve any observautethne
00eeed• have to make until uome future stage i
teem kr Agese,if any such stage should occur.
eel.ll-th"e'3EY wished to kow whether the Hon. Gen-.
Me\ in Member e North w • kshira (Mr. New
~ for s arwic
kr. li eato renew the discussion?
tile iv to renew
said ho had put his
eequestionu for
iteettvorroatiou of several Members who had h
Nit :lieced
tar atter a by the irregularity of the proceedings in
d e -urtng the last few days.
onsielera-
tio4 f . RUSSELL said he bad fixed the
Bill for
the Lords' amendments on the Irish
etei,B"r to. (this day); but he should eity Were Preas lbat motion if the Hon. member for the
c Franchise
bet,
t)f
ear' ere to
8 ~,,, Present himself to take the oaths.
tlae le " °R,TLEY said it did not follow thtaahtlebete-
take thear"" Rothschild pteseuted himself at the
tibjeet: eltils, ally discussion should take place upon the
I'llt b,
„ eoi ~,, Q-,..,„CIPOSED EXHIBITION OF 1851.. mu.
nit: t-1,-- Trb/TRORP rose to submit the following
re-
'tilted to the :ea" That an humble address be „ e
tl.ki "c' tne %leen, Praying that her Majesty will b
"'IY pl
tlve hi eased to direct the Attorney-General to
hl3ll3obtatile,B4"tion to the filing of the proposed
n 'er, an injunction to restrain the erection of any.infer-
'illitie-egB '2,a an), part of II de- ark for the intended ebxer
veld 01 1851." The YHonp. and Gallant 14aa 11:1114 put it to the Hon. and LearnedMGeemntuldee-
tf pro, Attorney-General himselt whether the mode
taa-avadinl4 he had adopted was fsir, straightforward,ie
l'atlig. It Was a great shame that a set of beg -
te4tilt ha', e'uld
thee carried round by persons of the highest-g
,rere :10W Soverei n for the purpose of extracting
on
4 tserl' persons thet gmotney necessary for carrying on
th .44114
prejudicial to
that let. that would necessarily be most the eat of this country, He had heard that day
do Dr''' L'll than i 50ilfo eners had disembarked on
"%lira:4)l2 clay on ourshores,re as a preparatory step
The"( 3 their -surveying the ground destined for- step, no
e
Ag eXirlibition.—(Laughter.)
"4 e ;4TORNEY-GENERAL said,
rounds
04 i‘teLeetling occasion stated very fullthe
as he had'
that
that he the be had acted in that matter, hedid nogtthinkf
the //` need then trespass at any length on the time 0
utli4a
the R 0 The.HOn. and Gallant Member proposed
. ,isq use should then present an address to her
17'1 };' Pl'aYlog her Majesty to direct the Attorney-
"' eeZ„'ino was-- her own law officer, to violaHteewv‘h.aast
late Tea
to be his duty to the Crown..
141114;4 the use would not give its sanction
must
soa
%lee f aipr op
°sal, and that Hon. Members roctert.—t
(erie, e:1 coavinced of its unreasonable chara
kr ;•• " blvide")
e;"d G 11.WORTLEY expressed a hope that the Hon.
vjeloah.at limber would not press his motion to a
eel°
done 119e` SIBTHORP said, that he had at all events
14 1! duty in
. w A •
motion.
the
bringing the subject before the House.
, Strk,,,.'3VN objected to the withdrawal of
44111 torZerB were then ordered to withdraw, but no diVi..
'''' the!, Und the motion was at once negatived.
~ kr. g , THE MARRIAGE BILL.
.04011.. wORTLEY said he wished to correct an er-
ade i: atetement which was reported to have been
the
atlbje,t4 Mother place by a Right Rev, Prelate Wail re of the bilarriame Bill. The Right Rev. Prelate
lissee°,,r,ed to have said that although the Bill hada_
diel,io inrongh the House of Commons after revertel
unkin,,,4, Set he had been informed that an agerega
those .0, ...,
4 et the whole of the Members who had voted on
lytt, 8 occasions were opposed to the measure. Now that,
IV„ ortjefeaer fro rte having been the case, that he (Mr. S.
,de
division had ascertained from a careful examination of.
4441151810 n Ii in that House, that the total number of
'42e, 'le who had at any time voted against the Bill was.
itt;lo,,Waile the total number of those who had voted in
111011;4' of it was 294; showing on the whole of the divi-
" 4Aaiority of 71 in its favour.—(Hear, hear.)
, Th,",u SUPPLY NAVY ESTIMATES.
Qappi- House then resolved itself into a Committee of
ek
_Y; Mr. BEnerea. in the chair.
tep. Tete of 731,206/. having been proposed for the
Jet 'kV of officers of the Navy and of the Royal
%tines
kr Ti -
ho wi.,:s• . hit said that before they adopted that vote,
the
way
to know how far the Government had gone in
tonitil°7 of carrying out the recommendation of the
ahoilidittt,ee of 1849, that the number of our admirals
Ott ne ~e tedueed from 150 to 100 He believe that
no 150 admirals . • twelve
thine there were not more than
'vote be
_en, on active service. He should move that the
sir
~I.educed by a sum of 3,000/,
l'ei,rter„BAßlNG said he was sure that his Hon,
iii
reeu.unl not wish that the officers who were at present
But •ceiPt of half-pay should not continue to receive it.
sibiaL, that course were not adopted, it would. be impos-
bet; Lizcloevael:l3:. QUA at present the reduction which had
alder th, '°Y nis Hon. Friend. They could not con-
-1414418 , question with reference to the number of ad-
ther,,,4l°4o. they must look a little further, and sea that
of tia::!11 sufficient promotion to keep the service in a state
leteet;Tfn,?Y. Fie thought his Hon. Friend would act un-
iillatreea.)theyn hadeforeed the House to a vote upon his motion
scarcely had time to see how the alteration
0 eueee a
_t d.
ivn, rv, ,_
did tune since would work. For his
killitir,,_ 1.40 did not think it possible with the present
Lan ',i' in the service to do with fewer promotions.
that year the PrOMOtiOIIS from the rank of' captain to
fr.,,_ aurniral were 14
'ma 00eatueee in number, or about one in 38;
"'40178 to captitins, 12; from lieutenants to