The Sun.
London, England, 1850-06-10 00:00:00

MARYLEBONE VESTRY.

On Saturday a large meeting of the vestry of St.
Marylebone took place at the Court-house, Mr. Hume,
M.P., and nearly every member of the newly-elected
party in the vestry, being in attendance ; the Rev.
Dr. Spry, the rector, in the chair.
The minutes of the previous vestry having been read
and confirmed,
COMMITTEE or INQUIRY.
Mr. HUMS, M.P., rose and gave notice that it was
his intention, at the next sitting of the vestry again
to bring forward the resolution in which he was de-
feated by the old vestry, for the appointment of a
committee to inquire into the financial condition and
management of the affairs of the parish during
the years 1848 and 1849. His motion would, he said,
be founded on certain allegations made in the two
last reports of the parochial board of auditors. Those
allegations charged certain malversations on the part
of the vestry and board of guardians which he con-
sidered demanded the strictest inquiry. He should
confine his observations in bringing forward his mo-
tion to the statements made by the official auditors,
and those alone; and he would not disguise the fact
that he intended again to ask for a committee of rate-
payers, a proceeding which his Ron. Friend the
Member for Macclesfield had acquiesced in and sug-
gested.
Mr. M'EVILY hoped the Hon. Member for Mon-
trose would withraw one term he had used towards
the old vestry. He had charged them with malversa-
tion, That was a charge, at least until proved, which
no gentleman, not even the Hon. Member for Mon-
trose, had a right to apply to the vestry as a public
body.
Mr. HUME said he bad only made use of the word
malversation, as be believed the auditors' report sus-
tained it. The Hon. Member then left the vestry,
and the subject dropped.

THE METROPOLIS INTERMENTS BILL.
Mr. FLOOD, the vestry clerk, read a letter he had
received from Mr. Hume stating the position in which
the parish was placed by the Metropolis Interments
Bill, and advising the immediate appointment of a
deputation from the vestry to wait upon Sir G. Grey
on the subject.
Mr. Churchwarden BRIDGMAN begged to ask the
Hon. Baronet, Sir B. Hall, and his Noble Colleage,
Lord Dudley Stuart, what they thought of sending a
deputation to the Secretary of State ?
Sir 13. HALL, Bart., said it would, in his opinion,
not be of the slightest use whatever to send a deputa-
tion to Sir George Grey.—(Hear, hear.) The Go-
vernment were determined at all risks and all hazards
to carry this Bill. He (Sir B. Hall) had no hesita-
tion in declaring to his constitutents that during the
whole twenty years he had sat in the House of Com-
mons, he had never found a measure attempted to be
passed in which there were such objectionable clauses
as there were in this Interments Bill.—(Hear.) And if
that Bill passed into a law in its present shape, he
had also no hesitation in declaring that it would cause
the greatest dissatisfaction which had ever existed in
the metropolis, and with the greatest justice.—
(Hear
hear.) He was quite confident of this, that if the
public at large were aware of the provisions of the In-
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broughtn
it forward.—(Cheers.) (Sir B. Hall) confessed
he never
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strongly upon any Bill since he had
been e
n in the Commons, because he did not
wish to see such disgrace as it would confer brought
upon the great religious community of which he was
a humble member. (Cheers.)
Lord DUDLEY STUART quite agreed with his
Hon. Colleague, Sir 13. Hall, that it wag of no use
pplying to Sir George Grey on this subject.
The Government were determined to carry
this Bill without paying the slightest attention
to what the people's feelings were upon it.—(Shame.)
They had made no objection to the principles of the
Bill, but only sought to amend and alter certain
clauses in that way which they considered a practical
improvement ; yet the Government paid no attention
whatever to the arguments adduced, but were deter-
mined to carry the Bill in the most indecent, reckless,
and hasty manner. Members voted in favour of the
Bill against the metropolis, without considering that
when the Government bad passed this Bill for the me-
tropolis, they would extend the provisions of the same
Bill to every town r.nd city in the kingdom.—
(Hear,
hear.) The Noble Lord at further length condemned
the Bill, and declared his willingness to stand by his
constituents, amidst loud and general cheering.
Mr. J. WILLIAMS, M.P., also condemned the Bill,
and said the Government were completely con-

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founded when the Hon. Baronet defied them to pro
duce any data upon which they had fixed the fees to
clergymen in perpetuity at 6s. 2d. in each case. He
would stand by their borough Members in oppo.
sition.—(Cheers.)
Mr. WILLIAM IVELLIAms said, instead of going to
the Secretary of State, if the metropolitan Members
would only do their duty, and unite as one man to
prevent this Bill passing, they could in one week bring
the Government, the Bishop of London, and Mr.
Chadwick to their senses. (Hear, hear, and
laughter.) He knew it might be called factious op-
position, but in a monstrous case like this even fac-
tious opposition was justified; and if the eight :or
nine metropolitan Members who were doing their
duty were determined, they would, in despite of all
the Ministers could do, prevent this Bill passing by
Christmas-day.—(Cheers and laughter.)
Mr. BRIDGMAN moved that Mr. Hume's letter be
entered on the minutes and acknowledged. .
Mr. SODEN, in seconding the motion, stated that in
Marylebone* in the last 24 years, 45,353 interments
had taken place, and of that number 10,552 were pau-
per interments. The interment of a. pauper was to
cost 75., much more than at present, and therefore
there alone they. would be mulcted in a large sum of
money.
The resolution was then put and carried unani-
mously, and it was left to the borough Members to
make the most determined stand possible against the
clauses of the Bill affecting the pariah.
The vestry then 'separated.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE

BRADFORD REFORM ASSOCIATION.

Sir,--On Wednesday the sth, the Commons as-
sembled i❑ the new House, and proceeded with tha
adjourned debate on the Second Reading of the
Secular Education Bill.

After a great deal of discussion, the case seems to
be this. The working classes, from whom is extracted
a large portion of the taxation of the country, are
particularly anxious that a part of that taxation
should be applied to securing them the opportunity
of giving their children what they deem a useful
education. In this they only act on the princi-
ple by which other men subscribing towards a gene-
ral fund, desire a just portion to be applied to the.
benefit of themselves. Other classes also join in
the desire ; but there is one point on which it-has
always been found impossible for men to agree, and
therefore they wish to direct the education to the sub•
jects which men agree to desire, and not to that on
which they are determined to quarrel. They do
nothing like insisting, that teaching on this quar-
relsome point shall be prohibited, but only that
it shall not be put forward in such a way as mani-
festly to hinder the attainment of the other. They
think that if a baker or a soda-water seller were to
insist on demanding the reception of certain kinds of
religious instruction, by all who used his shop,
he would greatly diminish his custom on the whole ;
and this diminution they want to avoid.
They are further conscious that the community of
which they are a fraction, sets apart, or has set, large
sums for the support of religious teachers of various
kinds, and that nothing is contemplated that is hostile
to their full operation in their several modes and di-
rections, provided only they will exercise their mission
at periods appropriated for it, and not insist on mak-
ing a lodgment within the baker's shop or the soda-
water seller's, with the effect of throwing obstacles in
the way of secular operations there. And in all this
it is difficult to say there is anything tuanasonable.
And now to see the reason advanced in Parliament
for refusing this request. For the grand use of Par-
liaments is that men by speaking may declare what
would otherwise be unknown.

The reason given, as collected from the most active
and energetic of the opponents, and supported by
loud cheers from the enemies of the education re-
quested, was rested on the celebrated decision
of a Lord Chancellor (Eldon) and revived within
the last week by a living Vice-Chancellor, by
which it was declared that any man might be de-
prived of the guardianship of his children, who held
heterodox opinions, which mean opinions hostile to
those of the party uppermost for the time being.
And if a man might be deprived of the right of
directing the education of his children for non-con-
formity, how much more evident was it that he had
no claim on education for his children except in the
manner which should be accordant with thti.interesta of
the dominant sect.

The working classes, and everybody else, are
therefore answered for the present. It was thus the
thing stood, in the year of grace 1850. Sixty Memo
bers against 289, composed the basis then existing.
The number is certainly not large ; but larger than
was expected. It is an egg that will require some
time to hatch ; but hatched it will be, as surely as
there are fowls in the air.

On a point connected with the new House, I want
to make a correction. On the first day of sitting
there, the recesses in face of the Speaker were oc-
cupied by ladies ; which naturally led to the conclusion
that this was the place az;signed them. On Wednesday
there were none there, but they were located near the
roof, behind the Speaker. And the report made by
them was, that they heard well ; which they attri-
buted, among other causes, to the faces of the debaters
being turned in their direction.
On Thursday the Factories Bill was considered in
Committee, without any alterations on the proposals
of the Government. The Metropolitan Interments
Bill was on the same evening proceeded with in Com-
mittee. The Bill is of importance as being the pre-
cursor of much that must be done in the same direc-
tion It is not sign of much energy, that after the
warning given by cholera in August last, there is only
one clear month between this and August again, and
nothing done beyond a Bill got into Committee.
On Friday was a morning sitting in the new House
upon the Drainage Bill. A minority consisting of four
besides the tellers, prevented its going forth that the
principle, which is that of lending the public money
to the agricultural interest, was allowed to pass sub
silentio. Why the minority should have counted no
more, is what it is not easy favourably to explain.
There was a sitting the same afternoon at five in the
old House, in which the Interments Bill occupied the
whole of the night. The great debate was on clause 30 for
making compensation to the Church. On this point
the only question justly debateable, appears to be
whether the compensation proposed by the Govern-
ment is at a fair rate. The proposal is to give to the
incumbents in the present parishes the sum of six
and twopence for each burial according to the ritual of
the Church of England proceeding from the parish
to the new cemeteries, minus the amount of what
may be determined from time to time to be necessary
for providing decent payment to the clergy who shall
actually perform the burial service. There is a good
deal of unfairness in the opposition as conducted.
The honest principle appears to be, that the Church is
justified in claiming compensation at a moderate rate,
for all she could preserve to herself by preventing the
passage of the present Bill; or if her power of pre-
vention is imperfect, then she is bound to lower the
terms in some proportion to her want of power. This is
the way congresses of belligerents are brought to a
conclusion in other instances. The debate on the
fiuestio tillnof twelvecompensationtoo,elock on
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incumbents, was
adjourned
I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
AN. OLD REFORMER,
Loudon, June 10, 1850.

SUICIDE ON THE SOUTII-WESTERN RAILWAY.—
On Saturday afternoon last the passengers travelling by the
two rad. up-train from Southampton were most painfully
excited in consequence of the following occurrence ;—lt ap-
pears that the instant the train in question was nearing the
Wimbledon-cross gates a man was perceived by one of the
guards to emerge from behind a tree, and, having run upon
the line, he stood in front of the train, evidently for the pur-
pose of committing suicide. The moment the engine-driver
noticed the unfortunate person ke sounded the whistle and
shut off the steam, and at the same time the guards applied
the breaks most vigorously, and did all that was possible to
stop the train in time to save the life of the man, but without
effect ; before it could be brought to a stand-still it dashed
against the poor fellow, breaking in his skull, and threw bim
across the metals, when the wheels of the numerous canines
and trucks
in
a most awful manner. Mr. Young, one of thenper_an r;
passed over h;s legs and body, mangling them
dents of the Waterloo terminus, who was travellingbe bafkedb, by
andh
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train, at once gave orders for the engn ° to
the mangled remains to be gathered up,
for the purpose of
up, which being done,
hed
the clothing of the deceased was
seoackets a number of printed
finding out who he was. In hist pe
supposition that his name
bills were found, which lead to 6
was Kemp, and that he was a
I,gtraveller to a coal agent in the
neighbourhood of the
,c 1 eware-road. The body was
,re-
moved to Garrett-lane, N't andsworth, to await the coroner's
inquest.
HE HORTICULTUE kI. EXPOSITION AT CHELTRN.
T.
noticed last •
flower show which we week is
HAM.—The great
causing a still increasing interest as the period approaches.
The central situation ofCheltenham is particularly advan-
tageous to gardeners from each direction, and it is evident
that the great .
yfor
opp m ortu t the display of
floriculture now
offered to them will be eagerly taken advantage of. Already
the principal London growers, and others from Exeter, Bris-
tol, Birmingham, Afanchester, &c., have signified their in-
tend
on of exhibiting;, and from the combined contributions
of gentlemen noted in the cultivation of the several classes of
plants contained in the schedule, the exhibition will be un-
usually perfect. The show of geraniums, stove and green-
house plants, and roses, will be the most recherche. Nor
while the show gives promise of such excellence, does the
prospect of a brilliant attendance diminish. The influx of
visitors is daily increasing, and it may reasonably be ex-
pected should, in addition, the ever-varying elements prove
propitious, that the company will fall little short of twenty
thousand persons. The season has, perhaps, never been
gayer than at present, which may, without doubt, be attri-
buted to the spirit infused into the management of the Royal
Spa. The drinking of the mineral waters is apparently
again becoming fashionable, and especially at this season of
the year attracts the largest numbers of votaries to the foun-
tain of health. The musical arrangements, which are very
complete at the Royal Spa, will at the show be under the
direction of Mr. Waddell, the band-master of the First Life
Guards, and will comprise an orchestra. of seventy or eighty
performers. Thomas Ingram,
Esq., Windsor; Robert Glen-
dinning, _.
Esq., Chiswick; and Charles Turner, Esq., Slough;
are the judges of the flower department.
DEATH OF A VETERAN.—Died at Appleby, on the
26th alt., Richard Hodgson, Chelsea Pensioner, familiarly
known as " Old Dickey,' at the advanced age of ninety
years and three months. Lie was born at Lowther in the
year 1760.