The Sun.
London, England, 1850-10-03 00:00:00

180.05.] LONDON, THURSDAY s.';•, r G S N OCTOBER 3, 1850.

RAILWAY PASSENGERS' ASSURANCE
COMPANY ;
EmpOwered by Special Act of Parliament, 12 and 13 Vic., cap. 40.
Offices, 3, Old Broad-street, London.

DIRECTORS.
Chairman—JOHN DEAN PAUL, Esq., 217, Strand.
PePuty-Chaftman—GEOßGE BERKELEY HARRISON, Esq., 2

Great To er-street, City.

Humphrey Brown, Esq., M.P., Twining Park, Tewkesbury.
James Clay, Esq., M.P., 25, Montagu-square.
George Ciive, Sunderstead Court. Croydon.
Samuel WhitAeld Daukes, Esq., 14, Whitehall-place, Westminster.
Harvie Morton Farquhar, Esq , 16, St. James's-street.
Alexander Gre:g, Esq., 10, Lowndes-street, Belgrave-square.
The lion. Arthur Kinnaird, Pall-malt East.
Geor4e Robert Paul, Esq., Portland Lodge, Worthing.
liankers—Ne,m. Strahan. Paul, Paul, and Bates, 217, Strand
Messrs. Ransom and Co , Pall-mall East.

Standing Counsel—Henry Davison, Esq., Brick-court, Temple.
- Solicitors —3lessr,. Fry and Holt, Walbrook Hmse, City.
Surgeon—Barnard Wicht llolt, Esq., F.It.C.S., 5, Parliament-street,
Westminster.
Secretary—Alexander Beattie, ]lsq.
This Company has teen established for the purposa of affording
compensation in cas,s of personal injury, and the payment of a cer-
tain sum in the event of death by railway accident.
During the year just closed the following are the particulars of the
claims .that have been made on this Company by 37 persons who
have sustained injury in travelling by railway :
No. 1. A holder of a periodical ticket, No. 5,091, met with an ac-
cident by falling off the platform at Pres t;)11, on the night of the lit
November. Adjusted by a payment of 71. Gs.
No. 2. A mail guard, insured by a periodical ticket, No. 5,584,
whilst travelling from Coatbridge to Perth, on the 29th November,
having. occasion to get out at the Stirling Station, he slipped between
the platform and post-office van. The injury he sustained prevented
hint trom attending to his duties till the 3d January. Awarded 201.
• No. 3. The holder of a periodical ticket, No. 5,396, whilst travel-
ling from Nraccle,field to Manchester, on the 31st December, was
thrown against a gentleman sitting opposite to him, and received a
blow ou his face, which rendered him incapable of attending to his
business for a few days. His claim was settled by the Company pay-
ing at his request 5 guineas to the Manchester Infirmary, the
claimant being himself a medical man,
No. 4. A commercial traveller, and holder of a periodical ticket,
No. 16,880, met with an accident at the Thirsk Station of the York,
Newcastle, and Berwick Railway, whilst about to proceed to New-
castle on the 24th of January. The injury consisted of a severe
bruise of the thumb, caused by a porter shutting tile door of the car-
riage, on his left hand, befo e he could take his seat ; the accident
obliged him, after remaining a week at Newcastle, to return home
from hirjourney, which he was unable to resume until February 11.
Awarded 311. 10s.
No. 5. The holder of a first-lass ticket, issued at Leicester,January
28, was a passenger la the tram that ran off the rails between lilts-
worth and Wolverton ;. he was thrown with great violence against
another passenger, and the shock unfitted him front attending to
business for some day-s. Awarded 141. 14s.
No. 6. The party in this instance is a clerk. in the Travelling Post-
office, and the holder of a periodical ticket, No. 5,474, and was se-
verely injured, especially in the face and eyes, by the collision of the
mail with the goods' train, that occurred on the 13th February, near
the Abingdon Station, on the Caledonian Railway. Awarded 2101.
The injury to the eyes appearing to be of a permanent character.
No. 'l. The holder of a :single journey ticket was also a passenger
in the same train. Ihe claimant was about to proceed to New
York, by :he Canada, but the injury he received prevented him from
doing so. Awarded 311.

NO. 8. The holder of a periodical ticket, No. 7,343, was injured by
the collision between the passengers' and goods' train in the long
tunnel in the Leeds and Lradford Railway, on the 18th February.
Awarded 401.

No. 9. A commercial traveller, holder of periodical ticket, No.
16,851, was travelling by the mail train that left Newcastle at 4 P.m.
on the 15th Marc!' for Manchester, and susta ned a severe shock
by the engine running off the line near the Victoria-bridge.
Awarded 101.

No. 10. A Government officer and his wife were passengers by the
mail train that left Durham at half.past four o'clock P.M. on 6th
May, which ran into an engine in the siding from the points not
having been properly set, near the Belmont Station of tho York, New-
ca tle, and Berwick Railway, They were both much hurt by the
collision. Awarded 351.
No. 11. An engine-driver, whilst driving the engine of a goods'
train on the 25th of Slay, between Blisworth and Wolverton, was
thrown b: heath the engine from the train coining in collision with a
bale of cloth that had just fallen on the line :rem a passing train; he
was much scalded and otherwise severely injured. Awarded 421.
Claims 12 to 17 were made by parties who were travelling by the
excurs on train on the 3d July from Leek and Macclesfield to
Liverpool, the weight of which overpowered the breaks on entering
the station.

Na. 12. The claimant, with his wife and mother-in-law, from Leek,
second-class passengers, were all bruised. Awarde 1 6/.
No. 13.. A young woman from Leek, a third-class passenger, had
her face hurt. Awarded 2/.
No. 14. A man and his wife, employed in the manufacture of slk,
third-claSs passengers, were both sightly injured by the shock.
Awarded 21.
No. 13. A passenger from Macclesfield had insured himself and
family, six in number, thr, e of whom received some injuries from the
concussion. Awarded 51. ss.
No. 16. A Gentleman holding a periodical ticket, No. 8,751, left
.Macclesfield in the above train, and was so shaken as to be inca-
pacitated from attending to Ili, business for a few days. Awarded 6/.
No. 17. A second-class Passenger from Macclesfield was severely
injured about the spine and neck, which still confines her to her
room.

No. 18 and 19. These claims were made by two gentlemen,
hollers of periodical tickets, employed in the railway post-office,
and travelling by the mail train that left the Euston Station on the
evening of the Gth of July, and ran into some waggons of a goods'

train, proceeding on the same line, near Harrow. One of them
sprained the muscle of his hack, and the other was thrown agfenst
the corner of the post•offce, breaking one of his ribs, and being
otherwise injured.
Claims No. 17, 18, and 19. are in course of adjustment.
No. 20. the c!aimant and 'Vs wife were third•class passengers by
the same train ; ha escaped with a few bruises, bu, his wife was
much injured. Awarded 151.
From the accident that occurred to the excursion train at Pow-
lairs. on the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, on the Ist August,
when six persons were deprived of their lives, and many others in-
jured, the following claims have arisen :
No. 21. A farmer from Dubheads, near Crief, was hurt about the
head and face. Awarded 61.

No. 22. A carpenter from Auchterarder, received a b'ow In the
head. Awarded 41.

No. 23. A farmer from Strathallcn, was also hurt about the head
Awarded 51.

No. 24. A draper from Auchterarder, was injured about the thigh
and side. Awarded 3/. 34.
No. 25. A man, from Auchterarder, was severely bruised about the
ribs. _

No. 26. A brother to the above was slightly injured. Awarded
V. 2s.
No. 27. A female. was bruised, and otherwise internally hurt.
Awarded 6/.

No. 28. Another female was Injured about the chest and hide,
Awarded 2/. 2s.

No. 29. A man, from Auchterarder, was slightly injured.
No. 30. A farmer, from Tulliebardine, was seriously bruised.
Claims 25, 29, and 30 are in course of adjustment.
In most of the above cases the sum awarded is exclusive of the
medical expenses incurred by the sufferers which have been defrayed
by this Company, in additidn to that of their own medical officers,
who promptly visited the injured parties on hearing of the accident.
The utility of such a Company is demons tratcd by these cases,
and the conviction that the premiums which the railway traveller
pays are but a small addition to the cost of his journeys, and create
a fund for the relief of those who from dine to time suffer by railway
accidents, which no human foresight can prevent, will it is hoped
secure the public support to this Company.

Table of Premiums.
Table for a Single Journey, irrespective of distance, to Insure
1,0001. in a first-class carriage, at a premium of 3d.
5001. in a second ditto ditto 2d.
2001. in a third ditto ditto id.
For the convenience of frequent travellers, the Company else
issues periodical tickets, to insure 1,0001. for one month, at a pre-
mium of ss. ; fur three months, 10s. ; for six months, IGs. ; for
twelve months, 205., with the option of travelling in any class car-
riage, and in any railway in the kingdom.
These tickets say he obtained at the stations of most of the rail-
ways in England and Scotland, of the provincial agents of the Com-
pany, and at the Company's office, 3, 0 d Broad-street, London.

CATHOLIC LAW AND GENERAL LIFE
ASSURANCE COMPANY,
8, NEW COVENTRY-STREET, LEICESTER-SQUARE, LONDON.
The FOURT FE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING of the Proprie-
tors of this Company took place on the 25th instant, at the Head
Office, at One o'clock precisely. The following is extracted from the
rep..rt, which is too lengthy for publication

:"'" •
During the past year no claim; have arisen from deaths in England,
And but two in Ireland—one for 5001. and the other for 260/.—malting
together 7001., which have been paid. This is far below the expected
mortality, and is especially favourable, when it is remembered how
severely the life offices generally suffered, from the epidemic of last
year.

The number of lives assured between the Ist of June, 1549, and
the 31st of:Nay, 1850, was more than double the number Issued in
the twelve months preceding.

Prop.,sals were made for 133 Policies, amounting to 52,9631.25. 6d.:
of these 121, comprising 106 lives, were accepted for 45,1251. 6s.
izixteen Policies lapsed, representing 6,0481., upon which 3201. 3e.
was received by the Company in the shape of premiums.
Since the c mmencernent of the Company to the Ist of June last,
Issuran es were effected to the extent of 110,9721. Its 60., pro-
ducing in annual premiums 3,7321. I Is. 60. Of these 54 lapsed,
tmountlng to 23,950/. 16s. Gd., of which the annual premiums were
7411. Is., leaving the yearly income on the Ist of June last equal to
2,9911. 15s. I Id.

:duce last meeting loans were applied for to the extent of 17,7001.,
but 1,1831. Ils. 10d. only was advanced.
The Directors were also highly gratified to report that within the
last four months they had considerably extended their business on
the Continent, having appointed, as Head Agent in France, Monsieur
de l'Etang, a gentleman of high standing in Paris, distinguished for
his integrity and ability in financial and in all assurance matters,
who. under the sanction and patronag'e of the Archbishop of Paris,
the Cardinal Archbish p of Lyons, and Monseigneur Parlsis, Eveque
de Langres, has already within the last three months effected a con.
sideraNe amount of business, not only in Life Assurances, but in An-
nuities both Immediate and Deferred.
After various resolutions, approving of the Report, and returning
thanks to the Right Reverend Chairman, Bishop Morris, the Vice-
Chairman, Actuary, Secretary, and Medical Officers of tha establish-
ment, the meeting separated, highly gratified at its present results
and future proscects.

NG SAUCE,
FOR, FISH, GAME,REA GRADIVIES, MASHES, STEAKS, &c.
JOHN and CUARLES COCKS, the sole Pro-
() prietors and Manufacturers of the celebrated READING
SAUCE, beg to caution the Public against the daily frauds practised
by many persons, who are offering their spurious imitations as the
Genuine Reading Sauce.
This Sauce is patronised and recommended by most families in the
kingdom, and for general use it stands unrivalled. It is sold by all
respectable Fish Sauce Vendors. Ile pa. titular in asking tor
"COCK'S READING SAUCE,"
which is prepared only by John and Charles Cocks, at their Manu-
factory, Duke-street, Reading. All others are counterfeits.
Observe the name—" J. and C. COCKS, Reading," on the Seal and
Label of each Bottle : without this none are genuine.

THIRTY-FIRST EDITION.
,
It ustrated by 26 Anatomical Coloured Ehgravin zs on Steel.
•_)N PHYSICAL DISQUALIFICATIONS, GENERATIVE INCA-
PACITY, AND DIVEDIMENTS TO MARRIAGE,
New Edition, enlarged to 196 pages. Just published, price 2s. 6d or
by post, direct from the Establishment, 35. 6d. in postage stamps,
11HE SILENT FRIEND, a Medical Work on
the infirmities and decay of the generative system, from ex-
,essive indulgence, Infection, and the inordinate use of mercury,
with remarks on Marriage, and the means of obviating certain dis-
qualifications. Illustrated by 26 Coloured Engravings. .
By R. and
L. PERRY and jO., Consulting Surgoons, 19, Berners-street, Ox-
tord-street, London. Published by the Authors : sold by Strange,
11, Paternoster-row ; Hannay, 63, and Sanger, 150, Oxford-street ;
Start e, 23, Titchborne-street, Haymarket; and Gordon, 146, Leaden-
hall-street.

PART I. treats of the anatomy and physiology of the re-productive
organs, and is illustrated by Six Coloured Engravings.
PART 11. treats of the consequences resulting from excessive in_
dulgence, and their lamentable effects on the system, producing
mental and bodily weakness, nervous excitement, and generative
incapacity. Illustrated by Three Explanatory Engravings.
PART 111. treats of the diseases resulting from imection, either in
the primary or secondary form, and contains explicit directions for
their treatment. This section is illustrated by Seventeen Coloured
Etigi avings.

PART IV. contains a Remedy for the Prevention of Disease by a
simple application, by which the danger of infection is obviated.
This important part of tha Work should not escape the reader's
notice.

PART V. is devoted to the eonsideration of marriage, and its du-
ties. The causes of unproductive union are also considered, and the
Whole subject critically and philosophically inquired into.
Tue CORDIAL BALM OF SYRIACUM is exclusively employed In
treating nervous and sexual debility, impotence, &c., lls. and 335.
per bottle. The Concentrated Detersive Essence, an anti-syphilitic
retned7, for Purifying the blood in cases of infection, secondary
symptoms, eruptions, and tho abuse of mercury, 1 Is. and 335. per
bottle. ferry's Purifying Specific Pills, 2s. 9d., 4s. 6d., and lie.
per box, a certain remedy fir gonorrhoea, glen, stricture, and
chronic inflammation of the bladder. Consultation fee, if by letter,
IL .4- minute detail of the case is,required: age, habits, and posi-
tion In society. 1/. Packets, with advice, to be had at the ile•ta-
tilebntent cely by which the ice, il., is saved. Messre. Ferry,
Surgeons, are in t,ttendance daily at 19, llerners-street, Oxford-
street, London, from Eleven till Two and /I vp to,Elght ; on Sun-
day, from Eleven to One. ,

DISPUTED LIFE POLICIES.

" A trial of considerable interest to Life Assurance Offices and the
public was concluded yesterday in the Court of Exchequer. The
Eagle Company held a policy for an assurance of 5391. in the Albion
Company as security for an advanee, the payment of which policy
was now disputed by the Albion, on the ground that at the time it
was effected the fact of the assured party having been a man of In-
temperate habits was concealed from the office. The chief evidence
tome 1 upon the question as to the degree of intemperance that had
been exhibited, and the resu:t was, that a verdict was given against
the resisting office, not only for the amount of the policy, but also for
401. interest from the date when it became due. The circumstance
of the action being brought by one office against another presents a
striking illustration of the uncertainty which may attach to all po-
licies limier the present system, and shows that the only' mode by
which absolute security can be obtained by the public must lie in the
general adoption by Assurance Offices of the plan of protecting them-
selves in every case by due inquiries before the granting f each po-
licy, and of afterwards assuming the full responsibility or the com-
pleteness of such inquiries by holding themselves precluded from
raising any future question. In the present case two offices are
found to be diametrically- opposed in their opinions as tc what can
properly invalidate a claim, and yet the public are expected to be
able to guare themselves against such contingences. , Similar cases
have occurred before, and even if they were more rare, they would
seriously injure the progress of life assurance. The very principle
upon which the business is founded is the removal of uncertainty,
and whenever that principle is counteracted in the slightest degree,
the people who would be the first to resort to its advantages are the
first to be deterred."—Times, July 11, 1850.

THE LONDON INDISPUTABLE LIFE
POLICY COMPANY
No. 72, LOMBARD-STREET, LONDON.
TRUSTEES.
*. Campbell Renton, Esq., M.P. Richard Spooner, Esq., M.P.
I
Richard Malins, Esq., Q.C. James Fuller Madox, Esq.
William Wilberforce, Esq.
DIRECTORS.
Robert Henry Forman, Esq.
John Hamilton, Esq.
fames Fuller Madox, Esq.
• John Matthews, Esq.
C. Octavius Parnell, Esq.
AUDITORS.
J tknes Turner. Esq.
'David Henry Stone, Esq.

William Adams, Esq.
John Atkins, Esq.
Flenry Augustus Bevan, Esq.
T. Thompson Bramwell, Esq.
John I►angerfleld, Esq.

,IPorge Cumming, Esq.
William D. Starling. Esq.

SECRETARY—David Alison, Esq.
BANKERS— geSSrS. Spooner, Attwoods, and Ce.
PADDINGTON LOCAL BOARD.
24, Connaught-terrace, Edgeware-road.
Rev. James Sherbold Boone, A. 31., Stanhope-street, Hyde-park.
Captain Creed, Norfolk-crescent, Oxford-square.
Charles Pemberton, Esq., Eastbourne-terrace, Hyde-park, and Lin.
coin's
Thomas Jervis Amos, Esq., York-street, Portman-square.
George Y. Robson, Esq., Eastbourne-terrace, Hyde-park, and New•
square, Lincoln's Inn.

Secretary, Chas. Hogkton, Esq.
The POLICIES of this Company, being INDISPUTABLE, form
Family Provisions and Negotiable Securities, for their validity is not
dependent, as in the case of ordinary Policies, upon the import of
previous reports and other documents.

Owing to this important improvement in the practice of Life As-
urance, the progress of this Company has been rapid from the com-
mencement of its business, and is steadily advancing.
Copies of the Report of the last Annual Meeting will be forwarded,
on application, to Solicitors, to whom Commission is allowed.

ALEXANDER ROBERTSON, Manager.

GUARDIAN FIRE AND LIFE ASSUR.
ANCE COMPANY.
;o. 11, LOMBARD-STREET, at the Entrance of the Old Post.
office, London.
DIRECTORS.
JOHN MARTIN, Esq., M.P., Chairman.
THOMSON HANKEY, jun., Esq., Deputy-Chairnsan.
henry Hulse Berens, Esq. George Lyall, Esq.
John Dixon, Esq. Stewart Marjoribanks, Esq.
Francis Hart Dyke, Esq. Rowland Mitchell, Esq.
sir Walter E. Farquhar, Bart. James Morris, Esq.
John Harvey, Esq. Henry Norman, Esq.
ohn G. Hubbard, Esq. Henry R. Reynolds, jun., Esq.
corge Johnstone, Esq. John Thornton, Esq.
iohn Labouchere, Esq. James Tulloch, Esq,
John Loch, Esq. [henry Vigne, Esq.
[TORS.
Henry Sykes Thornton, Esq.
John Henry Smith, Esq.
,avies, Esq., F.R.S.

Al7Dl'

W. Robarts, Esq.
Lewis Loyd, jun., Esq.
Acrveu—Crlffith

In the LIFE DEPARTMENT, Assurances may be effected at
ow Rates without participation in the Profits ; or at moderate Rates
with participation in one moiety of the Profits every seven years. At
ach of the four Septennial Divisions which this Company has made,
:he Bonuses amounted to about 1 per cent. per annum on the sum
,ssured, or about 27 per cent. on the amount of premium received;
Ind the whole amount of Reversionary Bonus allotted by the Corn-
any exceeded 770,0001.

LOANS granted on Life Policies to the extent of their values, pro-
vided such Policies shall have been effected a sufficient time to have
attained in each case a value not under 501.

In the FIRE DEPARTMENT, a Return of profit was declared
.n the sth of June, upon the premiums received on all Policies
which had been in force seven years at Christmas 1849, and the same
snow in course of payment daily (Friday and Saturday excepted),
between the hours of ten and three o'clock, at the Head Office ; and
also by the Agents in the Country Districts.
Notice is hereby given, that Assurances which expire at
Michaelmas must be renewed within fifteen days at this Office, or with
Mr. Sams, No. 1, St. James's-street, corner of Pall-mall, or with
the Company's Agents throughout the Kingdom, otherwise they be-
come void.

GEORGE KEYS, Secretary,

ARGYLL SUBSCRIFTION ROOMS, Great
Windmill-street, St. James's.

Open every Evening with Laurent's celebrated and unrivalled
Band. Principal Cornet-a-piston, Mons. BOULCOURT, from l'aris,
and Artiste Attaché to Mr. Strauss's Orchestra at the Baths of Vichy,
France.

The Subscribers are respectfully informed that Mr. Laurent, jun.,
having become Lessee to the above Rooms, begs to announce his in-
tention of applying to the Honourable Magistrates for a Licence to
the same Rooms, and, if granted, he w II give CONCERTS of a very
sulerior description, in conjuncton with his Dancing Academy. Mr.
Laurent, jun., solicits the patronage of the subscribers and nobility

in this new undertaking, pledging himself strenuously to cater for
their amusement, and hopes to deserve a continuance of that liberal
support which has hitherto been bestowed on this distinguished and
popular establishment.

Terms of Sub3eriptiont—Slx months, 51. 55.; one month, 11. Is.
one evening, is.

Doors onei. at If-past Eight, Dancing commences at Nine pre-
cisely, c:osing at Half-past Eleven.

DR. LA'SIERT ON THE SECRET INFIRMITIES OF YOUTH
MATURITY.-vrITII 40 COLOURED ENGRAVINGS ON

J tat pubishod, and may be had in French or English, in a Sealed
Envelope, 2s. 6d., or post-free, from the Author, for forty-two
:•tarnps,
itIELF-PRESERVATION; a
► Medical Treatise on the Physiology of Marriage, and on
the Secret Infirmities and Disorders of Youth and Ma iirity,
usually acquired at an early period of life, which debilitate
he physical and mental powers, diminish and enfeeble the natural
etliniss, and exhaust the vital energies of Manhood; with Practical
'ibservations on the Treatment of Nervous Debility and Indigestion,
s7liether arising from these causes, close study, or the influence of
climates: Local and Constitutional Weakness, Syphilis,
Stricture, and all Diseases and Derangements resulting from Indis-
cretion. With Forty coloured Engravings, illustrating the
knatorny, Physiology, and Diseases of the Reproductive Organs,
explaining their structures, uses, and functions, and the various
injuries that are produced in them by solitary habits, excesses, and
infection. BY SAMUEL LA'MERT, M.D.,
37, BEDFORD-SQUARE. LONDON.

Doctor of Medicine. Matriculated Member of the University of &lin-
hurgh, Licentiate of Apothecaries' Hall, London, Honorary Member
of the London Hospital Medical Society, &c.

This work contains an accurate and complete account of the
Anatomy and Physiclogy of the Reproductive Organs. It un-
fortunately happens that the unhappy victim of excessive indul-
gence and vicious habits, while suffering from their invariable con-
sequences, unwisely entertains a fear of ap ?lying to a qualified physi-
cian for relief. Shame and the dread so frequently, but erro-
neously entertained that these complaints are beyond the reach of
art, alike restrict him and prevent his seeking or assistance where
alone it can be procured. Dr. LA'MERT has taken the highest
medical honours, as his oliplomas testify, and the great extent of his
practice for many years is a guarantee for his professional experi-
ence. which has reference almost solely to the treatment of these
diseases.

Pubiished by she Author, and may be had of Kent and Richards,
52, Paternoster-row; Hannay, 63, Oxford-street; Starie, Tiehborrie-
Area, Haymarket; Mann. 39, Comhill ; Gordon, 146, Leaden-
hall-itreet, London ; or, free by post for torty-twe stamps. front
the Author's Residence. 37. Redtorn.,Rmare I.nrulon

RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS.
BRISTOL, OCT. 2.
STOCK EXCITANGE.—The share market was not quite so
active to-day The sales were—Great Western, 73%—London
and North-Westert, 11514.
LIVERPOOL, Ocr. 2.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The share market was dull to-day.
and a small amount of business doing. The transactions
were as follow : Lancashire and Yorkshire, Consolidated,
474—Ditto, Fifths, 8 dis.—Ditto, 321. Shares, it dis.—Ditto
( West Riding Union), 71/,dis.—London and North-Western,
11514 —Ditto New Quarters, 214 p.—Midland, 4314—. Ditto,
Halves, 2114 dis. - South-Eastern and Dover, 20%—Ditto
(No. 4), Registered, 678—York and North Midland, 2134
Belfast and Ballymena, 20—Caledonian, 834—East Lanca-
shire, 97/A—Great Northern, 13%—Kendal and Windermere,
Preference, 6 per cent.. 114 p.
MANCHESTER, Ocr. 2.
STOCK EXCRANOIL—The share market opened heavily
to-day, but afterwards rallied, and closed firmly.
BIRMINGHAM, Ocr. 2.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The only transaction reported to-day
was—Shrewsbury and Birmingham (A), 814 dis.
YORK, OCT. 1.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The transactions to-day were as fol-
low: —North British, 71. 3s. 9d.—York, Newcastle, and
Berwick (Newcastle Extension), 11.

RAILWAY TRAFFIC RETURNS.
CHESTER AND HOLYHEAD RAILWAY.--ITafte for the
week ended Sept. 29 :

MAIN LINE.

Passengers ...
Parcels, H. C. and D.
Goods, cattle, &c.

... £2,118 13 7
• 85 16 8
▪ 493 11 9
▪ 575 0 0

Total

... £3,233 2 0

PaqF en gers
Parcels, H. C. and D.
Goods, cattle, &c.

... £44 7 4
... 1 4 5
... 66 1 6

Total

••• ••• ... £lll 13 3
STEAM-BOATS.

Passengers
Parcels, H. C. and D. ...

... £193 14 5
12 8 6

Total

... £206 2 11
LANCASHIRE AND YORKSHIRE RAILWAY.—(2S3I miles
open.) Traffic for week ending Sept. 29....£16,023 3 6
Corresponding week in last year, (196 i
miles open) ..
...X11,347 6 1
SOUTH-EASTERN RAILWAY. Gross traffic receipts for
the week ending Sept. 28 :
Passengers
Carrying account

... £12,593 18 4
3,251 15 11

Total ... ... . 15,845 14 3
Corresponding week last year... 12,835 8 11

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OFFICIAL SALARIES COMMITTEE.

THE CHIEF DEPARTMENTS OF THE GO-
VERNMENT.
[The Evidence of Lord John Russell continued from
The Sun of Sept. 19.]
Mr. Bright—Some questions have been asked with
regard to the number of Ministers holding seats in
Parliament. Now, take the case of the Board of
Control ; does it appear necessary that we should have
in the House of Commons the president and two se-
cretaries of that board ?—No ; but it 80 happens that
at present the president is in the House of Commons,
as well as the two secretaries; in the late Adminis-
tration, the President of the Board of Control was in
the House of Lords, and I think in that case it is de-
sirable to have the two secretaries in the House of
Commons.
But the president was in the House at the time
that those two secretaries, who were also Members of
Parliament, were appointed to the Board of Control ;
does that appear to have been a judicious or necessary
course to be taken ?---That is quite true; Sir John
Hobhouse had held that office formerly, and it was
thought that he was the fittest person to' ave it; but
if you made an alteration in that respect, you would
in some degree prevent the choice of the Crown falling
upon a Peer ; therefore I do not think it advisable, on
account of this particular case, to make an alteration,
though I should certainly say that the president and
one secretary would be sufficient at present in the
House of Commons.
If the president and one secretary were sufficient,
how could it be justified that another Member of the
House of Commons should be appointed to be secre-
tary at the time when one secretary was already in
the House ; is it not adding to the official staff in the
House, and to the Government influence upon a divi-
sion,. when it is not necessary for conducting the
business at the office P—l think it would be neces-
sary, and was necessary, at the time when the Presi-
dent of the Board of Control was a Member of the
House of Lords.
Mr. Ellice—Was not this arrangement made un-
der a special Act of Parliament for the alteration of
the Board of Control ; were not the two secretaries
authorised to be in Parliament by the provisions of
that Act of Parliament P—That is quite true.
Mr. Bright—The question is, whether Sir John
Hobhouse, the president, and one of the secretaries,
being in the House of Commons, it was judicious or
necessary that another Member of Parliament should
be appointed secretary P—l think it was very judi-
cious ; I think the person appointed was very compe-
tent to hold the office, and that the public service is
promoted by it; it gives the Government, no doubt,
an additional person who, as you term it, is on the
staff of those who hold offices; but there are other
offices which have usually been held with seats in the
House of Commons which are not at present so held ;
I do not think there is any public injury from that.
Considering that, with regard to the Poor-law,
which is much more frequently a subject of discus-
sion in the House of Commons thangndia questions,
only the president and secretary are in the House,
would not the same be abundantly sufficient for
the India department as it is at present managed ?
I do not deny that it would at this time ; but then I
should say that if you had the president in the
House of Lords, it would be right to have two secre-
taries in the House of Commons.
If you had the president in the House of Lords,
how could it be desirable to have two secretaries in
the House of Commons ; they being equals in office.
would not the division of responsibility be unfavour-
able to the effective discharge of the duties P—No : I
think the subject of India being of a very special na-
ture, you might find that you required more than one
person to take part in the debate ; when one secretary
bad made his statement, and had been answered, it
would be a great misfortune if you bad nobody else
in the House of Commons who could take part in the
debate.
In speaking of the necessity of there being some
of the Ministers who should not have much to do,
and to whom great questions may be referred, you
mentioned the case of the Reform Bill, and of some
questions connected with Dissenters, being referred
to yourself when you held the office of Paymaster of
the Forces ; did not that arise a great deal more from
the fact of your having for many years taken a leading
part in working those questions in Parliament, than
from the circumstances that parties in the Cabinet
were not able to take them in hand themselves ?--Cer-
tainly, very much owing to that circumstance.
Then, in that case, those illustrations do not quite
bear out the case which you intended them to illus-
trate P—They so far bear it out, ant supposing I had
not held the office of Paymaster of the Forces, or that,
in consequence of there not being enough to do in the
office of Paymaster of the Forces, it had been joined
with some other office which has a great deal of busi-
ness to do, there would not, I think, have been
strength enough to apply to that question to bring it
forward, and defend it in the manner in which it re-
quired to be done.
But is it not an unusual thing altogether to go out
of the Cabinet for such a duty ; were you a member
of the Cabinet at that time ?--I was a member
of the Cabinet in August, 1831 ; I was not in March,
1831, when I brought forward the Reform Bill.
Then is not that a proof that that instance does not
apply to the question we have been discussing; but
that the circumstance of that subject being entrusted
to you arose from the prominent part you had taken
o thef reform ?
argument- Y
thatet i butt is
velryduosenfuotl
to the Government to have some offices which
think
tthhea
tq
destroysue s t i question
e
take the whole of a man's time.
Mr. Henry Drummond.,-If your Lordship had not
been connected with the •
Government at all the Go-
vernment would not have fixed .1
upon you to bring for-
ward that question ?—I do not think
they
could have
done so.
Chairman—With regard to the Government of Ire-
land, supposing the measure now before Parliament
should be carried, and that the office of Lord-Lieu-
tenant should be abolished, what scale of salaries does
your Lordship propose to establish for the Govern-
ment of Ireland ?—I should propose no other scale of
salaries than the scale adopted for the three Secreta-
ries of State; I think the fourth Secretary of State
and the under-secretaries should have salaries equal
in amount to those which are now held by the other
Secretaries of State and their under-secretaries, and
that there should be one Parliamentary under-secre-
tary, and one permanent under-secretary. .s • ,
Sir John Trollope--Is not the salary of the iron
Secretary at the present time equal to that of the
principal Secretaries of State ?—I tis 5,5001. a year;
he has considerable expenses in Ireland, in keeping 1113
the house and gardens in the Phoenix Park.
Mr. Bright—He has two houses allowed him in
Ireland, besides the Salary ?_yes; I know that the
expenses are considerable ; I think Lord Stanley told
me, that when he was Chief Secretary, the garden
alone cost him 5001. a year.
Chairman—lt will not be necessary for the new
Secretary of State for Ireland to reside in Dublin ?—.
I think certainly not to reside in Dublin; it may be
necessary for him from time to time to go over to
Ireland, but that must depend upon circumstances.
Mr. Walter—Will there be any office in Dublin to
which persons may apply who may wish to communi-
cate with the Government P—No ; there may be two
or three clerks there connected with the Government
business ; but I think it is desirable to have every-
thing that requires decision decided here ; I mean
everything relating to the administration now carried
on by the Lord-Lieutenant.
Chairman—What is the saving in point of money,
which you contemplate from the change by substitut-
ing a Secretary of State for Ireland for the Lord-
Lieutenant ?--I think you may reckon upon its being
10,0001. Lord Clarendon represents that there are
some persons connected with the offices in Ireland who
are of long service, who have houses in Dublin, and
have families in Dublin, and that it would be much
better altogether, more just towards them, and at the
same time better for the public, to give retiring allow-
ances
to them, than to bring them over to this coun-
try; that, of course diminishes the saving._
Ur. Bright—As the Secretary of State for Ireland
will have to transact business only for that portion of
the United Kingdom, the population of which is only
about one-half the population of England, and which
in some respects does not furnish more employment in
proportion for a Secretary of State, will it be neces-
sary or proper that he should have so large a salary as
5,000/. a year ?—Yes, considering that he has now
5,000/. would not be too much
20,000/. a year, I think
for him ; I think it is desirable in making this change,
egradually. There is a
to make it,
in some respects,
vast deal of business now transacted in Ireland. I
think it has been too much the custom in Ireland to
refer on every ()mem
• n (which is not the case in
England) to the Government for advice and assistance.
Now it is desirable to get rid of that system; but I
do not think a Secretary of State can shut his doors
at once, and say, " I will
.no. t hear you, and I will
re
not entertain your case;desirable to alter the
system, but you cannot at once get rid of people's
habits.

explain why the sum of 2,0001.
scoCthlaanirdtniacna—n Tyhoeure is also an office connected with
a-year should be attached to the office of Queen's
Commissioner for the Church of Scotland ?—No, I
certainly cannot give a reason for it; I did not know,
till lately, that it was so much.
Do you know what duties the Queeee Commis-

sioner to the Church of Scotland has to perform ?
His duties take up a very small period of the year ;
he is,ernpowered by the Queen to open the Assembly,
which is a right always denied, I believe, by the As-
sembly itself ; but it passes with a sort of protest every
year, and he presides over the Assembly, and, I be-
lieve, he entertains members of the Assembly ; what
it may cost him I do not know, but it extends over a
short period of the year.
It is not at all necessary, for the purpcse of the office,
that he should be resident in Scotland, be present there,
except at the period when he opens the session of the
General Assembly ?—No, not except at that period.
The session may last a shorter or a longer time.
Is it necessary, even for communication between the
Church of Scotland and the Queen, that such au
office shoukl be maintained at all ?—I think it is de-
sirable ; but it has never happened to me to have any
important communication to make through the Com-
missioner.
Mr. Bright—Did you ever hear that any other
Prime Minister had any important communication to
carry on between the Crown and the General As-
sembly P—l have not looked at that question lately.
In old times, I have no doubt there used to be ; but I
do not suppose that since the commencement of this
century there have been many.
Chairman—ln the recent discussions of the Church
of Scotland, was the assistance of the Queen's Com-
missioner ever called in ?—I had a great deal of cor-
respondence with the Queen's Commissioner at the
time, and he had very strong opinions upon the sub-
ject, which be represented to me by letter ; but he
had no authority, and I do not think his interference
was asked for by the Government.
Here is also the office of Comptroller-General of
the Exchequer ; do you think that the duties of that
office could be efficiently carried on with a less salary
than 2,000/. a year; is it an office of such importance,
in your opinion, as to require that amount of salary ?'
—I think, if you have the office, the salary ought not
to be less than 2,0001. a year. At the time when
there was a debate in the House of Commons about
Sir John Newport's pension, Sir Robert Peel said,
" that without saying who was specially fit for it, he
thought the Government were bound to find the best
man that could be found for that office." It is a
question naturally enough in the official part of the
Treasury, whether there should be any such control;
my opinion certainly is, that though things may go
on very well without that control, yet it is better
for the public that there should be some person to
exercise control in a case that might not happen if he
was there, and would be a very rare occurrence,
namely, of the Treasury making a wrong interpre-
tation of the law, and exercising a power which really
did not belong to them. There was a case with
regard to the Russian Dutch Loan, when Lord Gren-
ville was Auditor of the Exchequer, exercising similar
functions, and he said he should not be safe in paying
that money unless he had the opinion of the law-
officers of the Crown that it ought to be paid. I think
that if a man is to exercise such a control at all, con-
sidering that it is a power of control over the strongest
body of the State, which is the Treasury, it ought
to be a person of very considerable importance.
The Treasury might listen to a man like Lord Gren•
ville, or to a Peer, when he said, " I have this objec-
tion to make ;" but if you had a clerk as Comptroller
of the Exchequer, I do not think his authority would
be of much use against the Treasury.
Does it often happen that points of debate arise be-
twen the Auditor and the Treasury ?—Very seldom
indeed ; but I think there was a point this year,
whether certain 'moneys should be paid ; we thought
at the Treasury that they ought not to be paid, and
the Comptroller of the Exchequer thought the same
thing; so that there was no dispute. But if the public
chose to say, "We are quite satisfied, and we feel
quite sure that the Treasury will never pay anything
that is doubtful," then you might do away with the
Comptroller-General-altogether; if you think, on the
contrary, that it is desirable to keep such an office,
you ought to make it an office independent.
Sir J. Trollope—Was there not a considerable loss
to the public by some frauds upon the Exchequer
shortly after the appointment of Lord Monteagle ?
Yes ; those were by an officer of the Exchequer.
Mr. Bright—And the office was not responsible ;
there was no security to make up the deficiency ?
He was not made responsible.
Therefore, as regards the salary of this office, un-
less there have been other frauds detected or pre-
vented, it has been thrown away ?—That is quite a
different question from those to which I have been
alluding. I have been alluding to great state ques-
tions. That was a crise.of forging Exchequer-bills.
Sir J. Trollope—And that caused considerable loss
to the public, against which there was no security ?
—No.

Mr. Walter—Are the payments which are likely
o be disputed of such frequent occurrence that they
could not be referred either to the First Lord of the
Treasury, or to the law officers of the Crown, to be
determined by them ?—Tnat might be. It is a
question upon which I would rather not give a posi-
tive opinion.
Chairman—Has your Lordship ever turned your
attention to the diplomatic service, with a view to ob-
serving whether that service could be carried on more
economically by a different arrangement of persons or
salaries ?—I think those questions depend very much
upon the relations of the country at the time. I do
not know that reductions could be made; but I think
from time to time reductions might be made in the
diplomatic service.
With regard to the consular establishment of the
country, have you paid sufficient attention to that to
enable you to form an opinion as to whether it is upon
a reasonable footing, or whether considerable reduc-
tions could be made in it ?—There was a considerable
reduction made a great number of years ago ;
whether that reduction could be carried further I am
not aware.
Do you see any objection to.our pursuing the same
t
course which is pursued in all other countries,
of
making the consuls dependent entirely upon the
ofthe fees
o
odffitcheatthatw
insteadoaf giving salaries P—l always un-
was
a system which had been found
very objectionable. I think it was very much ob-
jected to in the House of Commons as being a burden
upon the trade of the country; and, in consequence,
salaries were substituted for fees.
Mr. Henry Drummond—Your Lordship has been
asked respecting the patronage•
of the highest offices
in the country, and the questions
seemed to imply
that family interest or personal interest was, consi-
dered more than the public •
service is your Lordship
aware, or have you any means of knowing, that the
foreign appointments have not always been given with
the same regard to the public interest with which ap-
pointments in this country have been ?—I should not
say that generally; there may have been particular
appointments that were objectionable,
It is obvious that, in this country, the first wish of
the Minister must be to get efficient service for his
own administration ; but does that same motive influ-
ence so much the diplomatic appointments abroad ?
—I should say, generally, it did. I think there is
considerable difficulty in making diplomatic appoint-
ments.
Have not some persons, for instance, been appointed
to high office abroad who have never served anywhere
before in the diplomatic department ?—My opinion
is, but it is an opinion that I do not entertain with
very great confidence, because I have found others
more competent to judge who have differed from me
—but my opinion is, that the former way in which
the diplomatic service of this country was conducted,
of appointing persons from time to time from this
country, who were men of good information, and
competent to give an opinion on foreign politics, was
a better way of conducting the diplomatic service
than making it a regular profession as it has been
made. I remmber stating that opinion, in private, to
Lord Aberdeen, a great number of years ago. Ido
not think he agreed with me, and I do not think Lord
Palmerston agrees with me either; but certainly that
is my impression.
Mr. Walter—Has your Lordship formed any opi-
nion as to the share which the maintenance of the
passport system may have in rendering 80 large an
establishment of foreign ministers and consuls neces-
sary, and as to whether, if that system were abolished,
it would probably lead to a diminution of expense
upon this head ?—lt must tend to keep up part of
the expense, I should not think a very large propor-
tion; but I should doubt whether we- are near the
time when passports will be abolished by foreign go-
vernments.

Mr. Cobden—Did I rightly understand your
Lordship to say that you concurred with Lord
Palmerston as to the necessity of maintaining all our
diplomatic establishments as they exist at present ?
My opinion is, that the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs is the best judge of the necessity of those ap-
pointments; there are some of them as to which I
could not give an opinion whether they are necessary
or not ; I have no doubt that they are all useful in a
certain dsgree ; but my own opinion is certainly that,
from time to time, as things change, and as you ap-
point new ministers to South America, and new
ministers in some part of the East, you might reduce
or abolish some of those in Europe; that is the ge-
neral tendency of my opinion ; but I will not give an
opinion as to any particular mission.
Mr. Cobden—Has your Lordship directed your at-
tention to the subject of the different diplomatic sta-
tions in Germany, for instance as to whether it would

be possible to supersede or to amalgamate some of
them F—l think that this is not a time in which you
can very well do that ; I think the discussions that
have been going on in Germany since the beginning
of 1848 have made it very important to have infor-
mation from the different courts in what way Ger-
many is likely to settle down ; I should think that
when things are determined; if they are to be deter-
mined in that respect, probably some reductions might
be made.
Chairman—ln the exercise of the patronage of the
Crown with respect to judicial officers, have you
found any difficulty with regard to the appointment
of puisne judges, in selecting the best men at the bar
to take the office of puisne judge ?—The appointment
of puisne judges is entirely with the Lord Chancellor;
the Lord Chancellor has always been in the habit of
communicating to me, in case of a vacancy, who is
the person that, upon inquiry, he thought fittest for
the appointment ; I take that rather as a piece of in-
formation and friendly concert on his part, and I
should never think of interfering with his power in
that respect, unless, which has never happened, his
proposal was, to my mind, very objectionable; the
Lord Chancellor takes the Queen's pleasure, and he
swears in the new judge; the First Lord of the
Treasury has nothing to do with it.
Does the same rule apply to the Scotch and Irish
appointments ?—With regard to the Scotch appoint-
ments, when I was Secretary of State for the Home
Department, I used myself generally to consider
with the Lord Advocate what appointments were to
be made.•
Mr. Walter—ln the event of a separation taking
place between the judicial functions of the Lord
Chancellor and those which he exercises in the House
of Lords, would your Lordship think it proper to
continue the same patronage to the future Chancel-
lor ?—That is a question upon which I shouldnot like
hastily to give any opinion ; perhaps I majes _ well
say now, that there are two plans, differing entirely in
scope, I think, which have been in contemplation by
different persons, who have thought that the duties of
the Lord Chancellor might be in some degree sepa-
rated ; the one has in view the creation of a judge,
according to a Bill that was introduced by Lord Cot-
tenham, in 1836, I think, call him what name you
please, who should sit in the Court of Chancery fo
dispose of the business of the Court of Chancery;
and that the Lord Chancellor should remain in the
House of Lords as judge, hearing all the appeals
come to the House of Lords, and exercise, besidei,
all the other functions of the Lord Chancellor.
The other plan, which likewise has been before die
public, contemplates that no judicial functiols
should be exercised by a member of the administrt4-
tion ; that there should be one judge to sit in thp
Court of Chancery, and that there should be anotbe
person appointed to be the head of the appeal juris
diction in the House of Lords, and that there shoul
be another, a third officer, who should be called the
Minister of Justice, and who should exercise only
administrative functions, and be a member of the
Government. The two plans are entirely distinct in
their nature ; and without the one or the other was
adopted would determine very much the sort of pa-
tronage which should be held by that member of the
Government.
Mr. Henry Drummond—By the second plan,
might not the labours of the Secretary of State for
the Home Department be very much relieved ?—lt
is a plan upon the extent of the consequences of,
which I would not venture to give an opinion.
Sir J. Trollope—Are the two Chief Justices andl
the Chief Baron appointed by the Lord Chancellor, as
well as the puisne judges, or are they appointed by
the First Lord of the Treasury ?—They are ques-
tions upon which the Queen's pleasure is taken by the
First Lord of the Treasury.
Mr. Bright—With regard to the judges in Ireland,
by whom are they appointed P—l think the Lord-
Lieutenant always writes; I am not sure whether he
writes an official letter, or whether be writes a private
letter, but he writes a letter, upon which the Queen's
pleasure is taken ; in fact, the advice is really the ad-
vice of the Lord-Lieutenant.
Chairman—Your Lordship has stated that the
appointments of the chiefs of the three superior courts
in England do go through the First Lord of the
Treasury ; do you apprehend that if there were a
reduction in the salaries of those judges, any difficulty
would arise in securing persona of the same talent
that we hare now to fill those offices ?—Taking the
salaries according to the reduction which was pro-
posed by Lord Cottenham, and which I first proposed
in a Bill, till it was suggested that it should remain
for consideration, namely, that the Chief Justice of the
Queen's Bench should have 8,0001. a year, instead of
10,0001., as fixed by law, and the Chief Baron and
the Chief Justice of the ommon Pleas 7,0001. each,
I think myself that these salaries are not too much for
those important offices.
It. is understood with regard to the Chief Justice-
ship, that the common practice is that the Attorney-
General of the day is looked . upon as having a sort
of claim upon the Chief Justiceship of the Common
Pleas ?—I have always understood so from Lord
Cottenham.
Does that apply to the Court of Exchequer also ?
—According to what I have been told, it applies only
strictly to the Court of Common Pleas ; but no doubt
it applies generally to the judicial patronage, in case
of an office being vacant which the Attorney-General
is well qualified to hold; but I believe he has no
claim except for the Chief Justiceship of the Common
Pleas.

Does your Lordship know whether it has been the
common practice for the Attorney-General or the
Solicitor-General to accept the office of puisne judge,
or whether there have been many instances of that?—
There have been some, certainly ; Mr. BaronGartOw
,accepted, the,office id Faisal), judgb. . ' ""
Mr. Bright—lf 5,0001. a year were the limit of the
judicial appointments in the superior courts, consider-
ing the dignity which such appointments give, and
the permanence also of the appointments, do you sup-
pose that there would be any difficulty in getting men
of adequate character to fill the office of judge ?
Whether, if the Chief Justice of the Court of Queen's
Bench had 5,0001. a year, a person in very great
practice would take that office must depend of course
upon his professional emoluments, and likewise a little
upon his time of life and prospects. As far as I have
known of the bar, I should say that a man who was
in great practice would decline such an office. The
only one that I remember at this moment is Sir Wil-
liam Follett, who was offered .a puisne judgeship by
Lord Cottenham, and he refused it.
It is alleged that the emoluments of the members
of the bar are now, and have been for some time,
diminishing rather than otherwise ; that being the
case, and seeing, also, that their professional gains
are always to some extent precarious, and that the
most successful has always somebody treading closely
upon his heels, and that as he passes the meridian of
life his powers become impaired, and unable to sus-
tain the enormous labour of first-class professional
business ; regarding all those things, is it your opinion
that you could not adequately and properly fill up the
e:e n Lit of the sa-
lary or a rule of
practice,
appointments to the chief judicial offices if it were a
r u l e
Pa ra a s
tinh
lary ?—1 have been told that professional gains at the
bar have been diminished, but I !lave no knowledge of
laid
wn
that circumstance ; of course, if the emoluments at
thatd o
,00b0y1. Act
a year
the bar have much diminished from what they used
to be, that will very much determine the question ;
but I do not think that a man who had the practice of
Sir James Scarlett, or who had nearly that degree of
practice, would take an office of 5,0001. a year.
Mr. Walter—Does your Lordship think it neces-
sary that a person appointed to the office of
should necessarily be chosen out of the class of the
most successful advocates ? Is it not the fact that very
excellent judges, and even some of the most distin-
guished judges, have not been men of that class?—
Yes ;I do not think it is necessary for the office of
puisne judge, that a man should be at all at the head
of the profession in point of practice.
Mr. Bright—Would it not be generally admitted
that there are men now acting as puisne judges who
are equal in character and in legal ability, and who
have as much the confidence of the profession and of
the public as any men who can fill any of the higher
appointments ?—There certainly are men of very
considerable ability and reputation as judges.
Are there not, at the present moment, amongst the
puisne judges men to whom, if they were raised to
the woolsack, or to the situation of chief justice in any
of the superior courts, no person in the country
would raise the slightest objection ?—Yes, I think
there are.

Then, if gentlemen possessing first-class character
and qualifications have consented to take the office of
puisne judge, with a salary of 5,0001. a year, with
almost no prospect of promotion, may not that be
taken as a ground for believing that if the limit were
5,0001. a year, the chief judgeship 4 could be equally
well filled up think that you might have very
eminent men in that way ; but I think you would be
very likely to exclude from your choice the men who
have the greatest practice, and that would be a mis-
fortune.

If men such as now give every satisfaction on the
bench are to be had, and have all along been had,
without difficulty at the salary of 5,0001., what chance
is there of the danger to which you refer in your last
answer ?—The men who have made very excellent
judges, :and who have very much the confidence of