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London, England, 1850-03-09 00:00:00

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had been. going on at the Cape; he found, in April,
there were 5,365 troops, and, on the Ist January! iba",
4 10S- lie believed, too, that, under the auspices c"'
his Noble. Friend at the head of the Colonial-effice, ar
Coffee police had been formed, which would still furthse,
ri duce this expense. In Canada, on the Ist Aprl, 18.,7,1
there were 6,400 troops; now, 4,300. Here, Win,
ote.,
system to which he had referred had been tarried
not harshly or unjustly, but still with advantage to
thps
country. The barracks at Montreal were found un
P
able, and it was therefore determined to rem
hoverer,
troops to another place. The inhabitants, was
were anxious that they should remain, and it wa theereof
an
fore thought fair that they should be at the sand eesivere
new barracks for them, which cost 30,0001.,
ustrali the
paid for by the loCal government. In local
troops had also been considerably reduced, and th
legislature had been called on to take the charge °I aria
barrack establishments everywhere in the Aestree,
colonies except Van Diemen's Land, Where, in col,
uabl
quence of the large number of convicts, it was tl2° grte
that the maintenance cf the troops inust le
Friend
as an Imperial charge. Hie
Friend had called attention to America, anitl°61111.111(1:tas
how she maintains her commerce in every Feiere)
the world with so few ships. He (Mr. Laheef so
was no advocate for maintaining a large fleet this
necessary to support the commercial interests sing a
country, and he believed our present system of h: prose
moderate fleet, with our dockyards in a state to 'e", tie
that fleet to the requisite force at any momenti:slo4),
wisest policy. He could not quite admit that Oil beset
who owed her sa'ety to her insular position, sh°"'"his to
completely defenceless in this respect as to be tielsand,
equip a fleet of night or ten vessels, as WO, ho eetr
wished. He did look at America, but be v h
palled to look to other quarters likewise. liew49„;;sl!le
to believe that we enjoyed at the present a!ii y sed
most peaceful relations with all the great little
naval nations in the world, and that there 0%40
probability of the peace, which has lasted a° ;bee
years, being disturbed. But on the other babdilosis
be ee
the
couldc opuo power
e r
not s
of
d egfuo consentirpthp
he looked at the great fleets which Ameat'e
country
Fgr,oafn
such is are ca
pestle.
bleiethbeeibi
eevsetdg
tubaartandt ea. for
the
h e 11:Igt.taerff ecotOad,
during e
of the last three years, when intestine wars anaillitl,
vulsions were rife throughout Europe, the tilnet;brell't
which this country enjoyed at home, and resPe-esdl
were owing to the knowledge that shedee 1'1;000
any moment to support her interests sa her
their beit
He believed the people of England would fit° on the
gatot daeprlaivieetthi:t
safeguard in a loyal and attached people, relLi,cgituti°l/shi
ancient institutions, with naval and military "-tab sue-
not large, but respectable—he believed thitt
they would have not only a barrier and ssfeguh3ri enncl
would ensure to themselves the means 54'-ell fur-
tranquillity. He met the Honourable Gentleteeo thet
that point at once. He would remind the ''e-dlishic;
they were not far from the Black Sea or t",% gree'
ysverewsbuorrboaudndgedrobaty
resourcespowerftil inoartioentieuit,sn.igafloe:Odts,
resources,T They
and sending out armies.—(hear, hear.) Tie °Jar
hthenude n, e
othatwn
de
mii
st waspyo,
steed not the tithhhieel
a truem at
ihnpe
ioprl
ui
meansthat
oo
ff thci. ":"
t:
etiri
o_'
res°
—namely, that portion of it which asserted that 01.3;
gressive increase of the expenditure since l'idi10!)
mainly owing to the increase in the naval ahlpiise 'utrt
establishments of the country. The lion. Ghetd-oce t I.g-
vited them to take a pledge that they should ref 183.','
expenditure of the country within the limits °iv nibs
The other resolutions he looked upon as ti3e,e'ele
lories of the main question. He did not
principle, that the taxies levied on the pooPle"jefeci°losf
" Impede the operations r f agriculture and Inerupoilt,ig
and diminish the finds for the eroplt 'anent °,` ;;t d t""e
all branches of productive industry."'") Ile 1101°Aief thejJ
taxes are without things—(Hear hear)-"),,e-i 8819,vt
it.iiiieglifi,B;ecesibanoul,mttthw(a)deltiyeeh neiTituhtset year
admitl
could be done no doubt it 'would be Si
he
industrytaxa taxation,
it)h,
had taliseBt3bsat wmais)s teurierpttorrnot e;"ti cliirti3ol:heel
of taxation that
into the Treasury; but there was no doubt it toetgi,,e„
te. hilly relieved the industry and stimulated
of the people. He held in his hand dociocent °With bict
had not received trim the vote-Alice, hilftniwb
would recommend to the study of Hon. .‘;co-J3e031/3„::
hich
was a map published by the lion. Member I°` 43001-oef
l a cewe country.neo°tu ibdTr
iu
which, by various lines, he showed then c-eries f
years
aTs hdee
spricee od f
beyo
pis
industry, and revenue a the country for iiboitere°
ainngd ca(r)inds(f)aisllinfogiroliseee-rsr"sd,treer
ing figures, like the Andes or Antille
angular lines.—(Loud laugher.) ?lbere rei: •
features in that map that he had observe° expels
13
dggis
t:iuttaiu:
ty:eraluousateirhatl juyeticala.ointudtnrh Whenfound
dne
getb,u6i
daleatoehrt:
regularly
nlcodri,(11::108ct
declining
agtnubipst
uhi
:elsscuocliecitete;heeediivii.ado
.ss gs5 d
rd'
tatigh)—hut then cane the turnip point °ldooolthe
he was glad to see the line take a turn againa-r3Y
There were other lines indicating the prusr-ilea ;Stlbs
trade and c: mmerce of the country; Oa si°,3e s' the
those great sources of the wealth and well-lTrigeii:ga-i,
country had been steadily increasing; and !laic -tebe the
gtrit,7st satisfaction trom seeing tha', eof
question
wo!fi s increasing,wbeth,r tbu
Dished expenditure, the would and trecli,--e 100,:ea
coun
INleerem or e nib') 1 Eiji eet.a sbilet bt
od:il;terrioctoupnaytrii.ensoreanidaxhees
that it was the'duty of the Hwith t
ke
care t.ceao,.t):
agreedia were "
ouse to ta teiy. teed tv•
for mai- t triance of the honour end
co:lc:try, but he dr flied that th in%
piles Hie England was to be eec" 'Pi° 11°
Y itb
measuredtv,ane , but f the
It should be without waste or' nterest:ea elf.
be such as was suited to the Zinatsa4alil.sbes se pet'
count ). He was most anxiovs to see 093 dsciag
severe in their laniable design Of I.c" her
their
expenditure, and he could assure them th-„-e.oo'tealt
j esty's G..ver;:ment would be most anxious
ciforts. He hoped, however, they would not I:eii,4 e° ties
ot the nature of their tru,t al to seek a flee- -red
mentary popu'arity at the expense f the oct
There was one point more he wished to r'filiejougaid
line Gentleman had referred to the anicunt";,,e 11:0 rel
salane., which he seemed to consider eXceis',.a.ce°"(4-etY
not deny that in their judicial establishinenoret
might not be pushed further; but when the,„iad b,7035',
tlrmen talked of America he would Bonin re'-coo°'d-101
the difference in the eireinust,nme „r e "c° prtl-per,
rem was nothing England was more jot"). ~.(Pr'eei
pthhi,
pry'l a)0 ua
and
theyem ualiwdn were than the character and conduct of herjuding.oerP'slie
conciliatingd ee
nrbgei
nrespct estimatedfor lawsthilyiehae ngaoSboiluil
surd
0°60(6
cord:
Liens of the country. It was, then, meat he the. she
paltry economy to measure their services Veep I° the
motley vatu4. He (Mr. Labouchere) had,tpd with 00
United States, and hal been much deliueut b°
pr.rgress of that great people in prosPr!tYo.'ehea'''',loo3.,
nut are indiscriminate dmirere of every of Ari,°"„iteo
believed teat the judicial establishments be
: "e t vSt
were infinitely better. The Chief Justice he se ire
0
was t"
States received 1,200/. a year, but what - t the,
pursued there? They did not think th% ea", )jr,
after sixty years of age was fit to be a kluge- se ` r be
pensioned him off. Why, there was the
and sfte tbe
Eminett, who had been a judge there, pelt t;„)
had been pensioned off, he was ebligei to earrarce
bar, at which he was in the first pritetiSe, 0..) Ptof
than he had received as a
mitted as much as any one the importancesiosogr°
of economy, and therefore it was not ilr"
a tient'. se°
that he opposed the motion of the Hon. -10 e eeetif
judge.—(Hear, he.nd 0000
lieving that the resolutions which he ushernteeestra to
affirm were plainly inconsistent with the lisbed tu-befor,e
country—believing that the pledges be 7 he posse
make were imprudent and improper' OA' suchtli tb
said, believing that they might be p'b,°e-rry °".. at 11'
tion that they would be unable t° ceaoeld 133 the
pledges, which, on the other ,hourshand ho 661‘e beri
treat from with consistency or ho uos. g
bl
to
House to negative them. He 110 Pd„,,,, tbel°,,bit.l
would not be deterred from voting 0g4',,,-iscollstr-: de.
feeling that their conduct would he 'coot wb": the
their constituents. Although the Ger; d' in
sirous of economy, they would not it Plase: hoPe.",
mere appearance of it, unless 00' °them. 1-7daratfo-
praetical and substantial shape betli'ree, the 01 by 'ee
the House would proceed unpleclge°,, '1;ov the% 00
of the estimates which would be talus to o'h°v ectoeici
dill'.. rent enetribere of the Governcli erine tf,,theye‘dee°e
were entrusted. Let them opf-1 ikessa them
them right and proper; and tiered it necessary, and sulehr; ailed ilfw-„f rese",-0-
tiens which they would a eerie° of
take that course rather the° ely
at bY
IF
regret. cooiaceesolutioo
Mr. SPOONER said if he Via°
iles° I°l
giving his support, asap intendee, t 0 anY future for°
the effectl
he should consider himself pledge' yob
that would have the effect of reducinysgta for theteio
of the army or navy he would hut to bind 13,iTeffietille
he saw nothing whatever in theta reduce
nr any motion hereafter that ablisbal" itbt
ntb.
out
strength of their naval and military es
rjoaati ,hoir,
thought there was ample room for r' if be
,ipie.ve
touching anything that was of die eltri,„ 0.0
unquestioria
sing
that by so doing he should be allude° baa
l.
America, which had been so elaboreteldisdoce 1,90°,4
would not support them. Nothing
receive ooltied
vote that the Chief J as; ice should re:ot'ari 005 he %,
per annum. But at the same time
beutions' Snit COetjoel
propositions contained in these about tato
rovee witfea the
that in voting for them he waS
different from that of the Hoe. Geht:oss be beoloola,
he usually voted, and whose oPi°!_ erbie... ear
highest respect for. The first resolutioe,_ their_d the
the large increase that had taken placcii4 etatu_cost
diture, lied not been contradicted, atit.:! , send oa
the increase had been caused priucipallYerl4 etatigsie
Uon• aloe toy
leers fir defensive armaments.
1 entirely ed e
did not say that the increase hed been be bt;iiet7_.
augmentations of our warlike establish!" Gen'
them; it was a question of degree,
.; 13ureitg.„uo
formed a very considerable part of tna%; as alinwt
Right Honourable Gentleman had made
,°..sadbr ottler
tO 61' o'
en
and many other extravagant items. Ile
_,5 osSe
resolution which he could not refuse his 00.i:efo,
the salary of 10,000/. a year to our 9.11:13_30,4? et t
Tba; the taxes required to meet ti!
u_Kr'ssa te
_l;st et
Lure impede the operations of ugricull
eri4ecapleysti.,erebio
tures, and diminish the funds for tn.
dustry, 114 t.
labour in all branches of productive in
_ed odo'„old
tending to produce pauperism and crinioe,,:., 00:0010t
the local and general burdens of the pc! P'
lit to the ot°
not deny that, and if he refused his asse
•ostaloie
tioa he denied the truth of the proposittub nroci.lc_,„oo
resolution pledged them to return as soerrosn: banstei.eote
to the expenditure of 1835. The Right 1./- prociP iota
construed that into an immediate, hasty_t•es.t Riding tie
return, but the Hen. Member for the W. 'respect. tied
had been particularly guarded in the:ltra thits
pointed out to theta the scale of expolu"