The Sun.
London, England, 1850-04-27 00:00:00

ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.

Mr. HAYTER moved that the "louse units rising do
adjourn until Monday next.
WOODS AND FORESTS.

Lord DUNCAN said, as it appeared from what trans-
pired last night in the 1.101.15 e. the sooner they had a re-
sponsible Minister for the Board of Works the better,
he would ask the Noble Lord at the head of the Go-
vernment, whether it was his intention to proceed with
the Woods and Forests Bill on Monday Lott, the day
on which it stood on the orders of the House?

Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to sly he could
not promise whether the Bill would he brought on on
that day.
COLONIAL ASSURANCE COMPANY.

Mr. ROEBUCK directed the attention of the Go-
vernment to a Bill now before the House for incorpo-
rating a C ilonial Assurance Company, which he hoped
the Government would look into with the view of seeing
whether it would interfere with the provisions of the
'Australian Colonies Bill.
OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITIES.

• Lord J. RUSSELL rose to explain a statement
which he (Lord J. Russell) had made to the Rouse
respecting the lectures given by the professors of modern
history at Oxford and Cambridge, but was very indis-
tinctly heard. Ho was understood to say that ho was
wrong in supposing that Sir James Stephen, the professor
at Cambridge, was restricted to giving one lecture a
week. It appeared, however, from his own statement,
that ho could not give more than 25 lectures to
the students, which on the average would be one a week
for the academical year.
Mr. GOULBURN observed that what he said the
other evening in the House was that some professors
gave three lectures a week, but that they were not com-
pelled to give more than one.
KING'S-ROAD, CHELSEA.

Sir J. PAKINGTON gave notice, that on going into
Committee of Supply, he should puts question to the
Hon. and Learned Attorney-General on the subject of
the King's-road, Chelsea.
DISTRESSED UNIONS ADVANCES AND RE-
PAYMENTS OF ADVANCES (IRELAND) BILL.
On the question for going into Committee on the Bill,
Col. SIB rHORP rose to move that the Bill be com-
mitted that day six months. If he thought the grant would
benefit Ireland he would not object to it, nor would he
refuse to support any measure that was calculat©d to
improve the condition of that part of the cpuntry; but
the fact wag, this grant teas proposed for nothing more
nor lees than to cover the delinquencies and the mis-
government of Ministers in the sister Itingdom.—(A
laugh.) When be was at school ha was taught to
believe that two and two made four—(A laugh)—and
that two taken from four left two remaining—(A laugh)
—but the returns which had been laid upon the table on
the subject of these advances to Ireland did not appear
to go upon that rule.—(A laugh.) The amount of loans
and grants made during this past ten years—
the return did not refer to what had
been lent before—amounted to no less than 1,227,402/.
13s. 2d., the loans to 8.751,2251. 17s. Bd., of which
322,1371.
Is. 4d. had been repaid, leaving 5,519,804'.
ICs. 4d.— au awful sum—still due, and yet in the face of
this it was proposed to advance an additional
300,000/. Now before this grant was agreed to
the House and the public
had a right id know
what chance there was of getting it back. He
had lent money hiniself' a.n d in some instances
he never got it back again. (Al
a---- ~2h I
however, not such a fool; he never lent money now
."
He was now,
wile he took good care to let
without good security,
paid him back
the man hate no more who had never
again.—(A laugh.) was
Now that
precisely the tale
they ought to go upon here. The
was the money to be collected andqtLeamLiewnhowmas,wahe";?t
to be collected.
Mr. HERBERT said, when statements were
variance
and
assertions hazarded in that House so totally
with the facts, be thought it the duty of some Irish re
ber to take the first opportunity of making a few obsiner--
vations on Irish loans and finances. The Chancellor of the
Exchequer had expressed a certain amount of impa-
tience at Hon. Members entering into the whole question
of Ireland, when particular measures were brought be-
fore the House, and to a certain extent he agreed with
him, but when unfounded statements were made by
persons who were unacquainted with the social condition
of that country. be though it right that they should be
contradicted. It had boon imierted loudly that an Irish
loan was the same as an Irish grant. But what was the
nature of an Irish loan? He held in his hand a return
which bad been moved for by the Hon. Member for
Glasgow (Mr. Macgregor), and which showed in a very
distinct and compreheisive manner the financial posi-
tionss regarded thigeountry. It appeared from t'east docu-
ment that from the year 1817, when the English and Irish
Exchequers were consolidated to 1845, the total bans
advanced to Ireland amounted to 11,326,5961.; and of
that sum
as much as 8,483 000/ had been repaid. He
would not discuss
could the
poll
but there' ''cy of those loans,
be no
doubt that they would
be of great advantage to this country. He
left out the loans duringthe last three years of the
famine, because they stood on
remarks a different principle, and
he should have a few rema
to make about them by
and by. He was quite ready to admit that many of
these loans had been devoted toepeculations which had
not succeeded, but still he felt he should be able to con-
vince the House of the injustice of the charge that an Irish
loan was no better than an Irish
yr,2.843,000/.
of the 11,320,0001. there was now grant.onl Well, then, out
misfortune
due. And,
and part of even that balance was
advancesi.ortune of the
unpaid,
notwithstanding the unparalleled
country, she had actually repaid
very period of the famine. In 1846 she repaid
during the
in` 1847; 514,0001.; and in 1848, 357,00 37°'"TI•;
toal of 1,241,000 L repaid during the contidilaalakin- a
famine. Sir John Burgoyne stated in hie evidencetre of the
the Government had gained considerable sums
of money
that
by those loans to Ireland.—M
..-'ar, hear.) It might
sail tha was an Irish qetemont, but it time's" tit he
That gentleman had conclusively proved the!, Le rnueet,
profit to the Government on those transactions with