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the prospects of Disraeli—all showed the aristocratic
exclusiveness of the present system of government.
What great objects then this association had before it
But every man mutt put his shoulder to the wheel—it
must be by individual exertion. Reform, too, was
needed in the Parliamentary system of operation;
nothing could be done without combination. If all
the friends of the people having seats in Parlia-
ment were to combine together even for only
one session they would form a body which would make
the leaders of parties quail. These vi ere the steps
which he had called a social revolution, which would
harm none, but would elevate and advance the interests
of all.—(Cheers.)
The committee then returned, and laid its
propositions before the conference, which appointed
Sir J. Walmsley, M.P., President of the Conference ;
Mr. Tillet and Mr. Bigg, vice-presidents; and Mr.
Beggs, secretary; and providing several minor technical
regulations f,.)r conducting the business of the Con-
ferenee.
The propositions were unanimously agreed to by the
meeting.
Mr. Alderman KERSZAW, M.P., was proceeding to
move the first resolution when our report left the Con-
ference.

been prepared from information received from the
British consols abroai% They gave the highest and
lowest prices of wheat at the various port 3 for a series of
years, but the average prices could not be ascertained
with any accuracy, owing to their not being able to know

money was voted for the support of modern professor-
' ships. Put such men as Mr. Macauley and Mr. Stanley
upon a commission, and the House might depend upon
it, the result cf those deliberations would be a manifest
improvement in the conduct of our Universities. He
had brought this motion forward because he knew that
the Universities themselves could not effect a change
without legislative interference. There were many points
of detail, such as the elective system, which could only be
sifted and disposed of by a commission. The Universi-
ties were the seats, and no doubt would remain the seats,
of civilisation, and they ought to change and modify
with the improvements of the age. It was an advantage
to all men to be educated at one of the Univer-
sities, and none ought to he excluded who were
fit to be admitted into them. To the man who intended
to adopt the bar, medicine, or the Church as a profes-
sion it was almost indispensable that he should have
been at college, and no one ought to be ex-
cluded en account of his religious views.
It wus no answer to tell him that thess
Universities were nurseries for the Church, because he
was prepared to prove that only half of the students who
were entered at the two Universities were invested with
holy orders. The Universities ought to be the seats of
learning generally, not confined to particular branches
of study, and he hoped to see the day when the improse-
ments he had suggested would be fully carried out.
clergymen got into debt very frequently at the Univer-
sities, which weighed them down during all their future
lives ; and he knew instances of clergymen not
being able to pay their debts incurred at the Uni-
versity until an advanced period of life. Ile
knew a young man who had spent 2,0001. during his
attendance at an University; and he dared say
several Members in that House had covered
their father's tables with bills incurred by them at the
Universities. He objected, too, to the distinctive acade-
mical dresses which the different students wore at the
University ; he thought there should be no dis-
tinction in this respect among the students.
Under all those circumstances he hoped the
House would consent to the Commission of Inquiry
which he proposed. The Honourable Member then
concluded by reading his motion, given above, amidst
cries of " Hear, hear."
Sir R. 11. INGLIS complained of the course taken
by the Hon. Member for the North Lancashire in
dragging forward the corporations in the Universities in
the manner which he had done, without any grounds
being given for having done so. In a pamphlet ad-
dressed to the First Lord of the Treasury, he believed
the Bill of Indictment which the Hon. Member wished
to bring against the Universities was pretty generally
stated. Tne first proposition of the Hon. Member was,
that the interests of religion and education had not ad-
vanced in the ancient universities to an extent commen-
surate wit their great resources ; but not one word of
proof had the only Member brought forward to support
this statement. He did not mean to deny the right of
the Crown of visitation, but he did not allowithe uncon-
stitutional right that the Noble Lord at the head
of the Government shonld choose a Member hero, and a
Member there, as it suited him, to form a Commission,
without the, supervision of the Lord Chancellor, that was
an unconstitutional right of visitation which he could not
admit. The Universities had, from the latest ages, been
considered the nutseries of the Church of England,
and in that respect, therefore, he differed from the pre-
position laid down by the Hon. Member. He considered
that Parliament had no power to interfere in spritual
matters.

the quantities sold.
Mr. NEWDEGATE said he thought the discrepan-
cies required some explanation, as it was the intention
of the Hon. Member for Montrose to found a motion

upon the returns,and he would appeal to that Hon.
Member to postpone his motion until the House was in

possession of more accurate returns.
Mr. HUME considered the discrepancies mentioned
would not affect the object which he bad in view, which
was to carry out free trade to the fullest extent, and not
simply to possess the name of free trade without having
it in fact. It was his intention to appeal to the Govern-
ment to give him (an opportunity of bringing on the
question, which was one of the greatest importance.
Mr. LABOUCEIERE said it would be of great public
convenience if Honourable Members would give notice
when they intended to question the accuracy of any re-
turn, in order to afford the Government au opportunity
of giving some explanation.
Mr. NEWDEGATE observed that the Hon.Mernber's
motion appeared on the paper to-night, and be thought
it right that he should not proceed to argue on returns
the facts detailed iu which could not be reconciled.
SMITH C'BRIEN.
Sir LUCIUS O'BRIEN bad observed certain letters
in the newspapers, complaining of the harsh treatment
which his brother had received in Van Diemen's Land,
and he wished therefore to ask the Right Hon. Baronet
the Secretary of State for the Home Department, if he
had received any dispatch from the colony, stating what
real treatment he was receiving?
Sir G. GREY had not seen the statement; but a dis-
patch had been received from Van Diemen's Land,
informing him of the arrival of four of the state
prisoners, of whom Mr. Smith O'Brien was one, and
of the course pursued with regard to them. If the Hon.
Baronet would move for a copy of that dispatch, he
should have no objection to produce it.—(Hear, hear.)
FREE TRADE.
Mr. HUME observed that; considerable misap-
prehension existed in that House, and out of doors,
on the operation of what was called free trade; and he
should be glad to know if the Noble Lord at the head of
the Government could produce any returns that were
calculated to remove that misapprehension.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL was not aware that ho could.
Mr. HUME would have no alternative then but to
bring on his motion.
KIRUSH UNION.
Mr. P. SCROPE repeated his question which he put
last night to the Right Hon. the Secretary for Ireland on
theisubject of the Kilrus'n Union.
Sir W. SO XIERVILLE said he had written to Ire,
land for the information.
DISTRESSED UNIONS (IRELAND) BILL.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
Their Lordships met at Five o'clock.
SALARIES AND EMOLUMENTS OE THE
OFFICERS OF THE HOUSE.
The Duke of RICHMOND moved that the report of
the Committee appointed to investigate the salaries and
emoluments of the officers of the House be printed. It
was at all times an invidious task to investigate, with a
view to diminution, old emoluments and salaries. The
Committee had, however, entered conscientiously on the
investigation of the subject, and they were of opinion
that the salaries of the door-keepers, which
were paid out of the fees, were extravagant.
One of the door-keepers, who had died in the
autumn had received from 1836 to 1849—during the
four lowest years-7231., 724 k, 4011., and 772/., and
during the four highest years, 884 k, 1,272 k, 2,5704, and
1,5941., while during the time he was ill a person had
done the work, and done it well, for 150/. The Committee
recommended that the salaries should be commuted
as regards the Government holders of office, upon an
average of the seven lowest years out of the four-
teen, and that their successors should be
appointed at far lower salaries. He hoped the Govern-
ment would take up this measure, and not leave it to a
private Member. The Usher of the Black Rod and the
Clerk of the Rolls had salaries fixed by Act of Parlia-
ment, but he understood that those gentleme❑ were wil-
ling to submit their salaries to the considerstioa of
the Committe e. It apt eared that the door-keepers
were remunerated by Ices from the East
India Company, and from editors of newspapers,
and strange to say, there was a body of Quakers who
paid 5/. a year to the doorkeepers. He proposed that
henceforth they should be paid by the House, and that
the only fees to be retained should be the fees to the
clerk for the i,,.sue of summonses.
The Mal quis of LANSDOWNE expressed himself as
averse to tee performance of duties by deputy, and felt
bound tc declare that he acquiesced, both as an individua!
Member and as a Minister of State, in the suggestions 01
the report.

Colonel DUNNE wished to ask the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government, when he intended to proceed
with the Bill for the relief of the distressed unions in
Ireland, about which the Noble Lord the other night ex-
pressed so much anxiety.
Lord J. RUSSELL was most anxious to proceed
with the Bill, but it was difficult to make a promise
when ho would bring it on.
THE UNIVERSITIES.
Mr. HEYWOOD rose to move that all systems of
academical education require from time to time some
modification, from the change of external circumstances,
the progress of opinion, and the intellectual improvement
of the people. That in the ancient English and Irish Uni-
versities, and in the colleges connected with them, the in-
terests of religious and useful learning have not advanced
to an extent commeesurete with the great resource 3 and
high position of those bodies ; that collegiate statutes of
the fitteenth century ecessionally . prohibit the local
authorities from introducing any alterations into vo-
luminous codes, of which a large portion are now obso-
lete ; that better laws are needed to regulate
the ceremony of matriculation and the grant-
ing. of degrees ; to diminish the exclusive-
ness of the University libraries; to provide for a fairer
distribution of the rewards of scientific and literary
merit; to extend the permission cf marriage to tutors
of colleges, and to facilitate the registration of electors
for the Universities; that additional checks might be
considered with reference to the continued eeeravagance
of individual students, and that the mode of tenure of
college property ought to be ameliorated, particu-
larly in Ireland. That, as it is her Majesty's right
and prerogative to name visitors and commis-
sioners to inquire into the ancient Universities and Col-
leges of England and Ireland, an humble address be
presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty will
be graciously pleased to issue her Royal Commission of
Inquiry into the state of the Universities and Colleges of
Oxford, Cambridge, and Dublin, with a view to
assist in the adaptation of those important institu-
tions to the requirements of modern times.
The fact that a large number of the Members of the
House had been at one of the two Universities was a
great advantage to him in bringing forward this mo-
tion. In 1772 'a great deal of attention was paid to
the subject of university reform, and considerable
improvement resulted from it. The subject then re-
mained dormant until 1834, when the House was peti-
tioned on the subject, and the late Mr. Wood
succeeded in passing a Bill which was thrown
out in the Lords. Afterwards Mr. Christie, the
Master of the Mint, and other distinguished individuals
exerted themselves to bring about some alteration in the
university system, and of late years considerable alter-
ations had been made in the laws of both those seats of
learning. The first thing that struck a stranger
on visiting either of the universities was the
large number of tutors who were unmarried.
He considered it was a great disadvantage that many of
the best men in the universities were obliged to relin-
quish their fellowships when they married. In such
cases they were driven to obtain the mastership of a
grammar:school in some country village, and to relin-
quish situations for which they were peculiarly qualified.
He believed to a very great extent the conditions on which
the: property of colleges! nas originally left, had
died out. Under those circumstances he thought
it was very desirable that tr ere should be an
inquiry into the property, and the conditions under
which that property was held in the Universities of
Oxford and Cambridge. It was the intention of James I.
in granting charters to the universities, among other
things, that the Members of Parliament for those
universities should present to Parliament a true state of
accounts for the several universities from time to time.
He (Mr. Heywood) might call on the members of those
universities, under those charters, now to render true ac-
counts of the universities to Parliament, but he thought
it more advisable that the House should get information
respecting them through such an inquiry as he proposed.
The Hon. Gentleman proceeded to complain of the
hardship of the law which rendered it obligatory
on authors to depoeit a copy cf their works at each of
the Universities, considering the immense revenues en-
joyed by those seminaries. The income arising from
Fellowships at Oxford was about 120,000/. a year;
at :,.Cambridge, 90,0001. ; and in Dublin, the re-
venue of the College estates, amounted to 30,0001,
The Hon. Gentleman then read the oath taken by the
Fellows of King's College, Cambridge, from which he
argued that it was impossible for a member of the society
to propose any great change in the constitution of the
accioty. In the reign of Henry the Bth, a communion
was sent down to enquire late the University of Cam-
bridge, and though a circle of courtiers were quite
ready to snap any confiscations of the university
property, the King disappointed them by telling
them that the lands could not be in better
hants, and contented himself by depriving them of
all the bulls which ha I been directed to the University
by the Pope. Edward the Sixth, Cardinal Pole, and
Queen Elizabeth, all issued commissions for the
same purpose to both the Universities. Later
on, Archbishop Laud intermeddled with the affairs
of Oxford, and would have dune so with Cam-
bridge, had the Puritan party there allowed him.
He was sorry to say that many of the ill effects of that
prelate's interference were yet visible at Oxford. He
thought a cnange would be beneficial. At Oxford if
they looked at the lists they would find that one-fourth
of the students failed, the reason of which war, he wes
told, that they failed in their divinity. lie thought that
none but persons of great learning in that branch
should be appointed to the theological chair. The
management, too, of the college lands might
be greatly amended, and more especially with re-
gard to the case of Trinity College, Dublin.
An importance attached to Trinity College, Dublin,
peculiar to itself, on account ()fits being the great and
only literary institution for the whole of Ireland. The
Honourable Member for Tamworth had certainly done
great service to that country by recently establishing
schools and colleges at Galway and Belfast, but they
could only be considered as superior grammar-schools.
He recollected an instance in which a Roman Catholic
student obtained a scholarship at Trinity College,
Dublin, but was deprived afterwards on his re-
fusing to take the sacrament. To be sure the
emolument was very trifling, being only 251. a
year, but it was a degradation that Roman Catholics
were not allowed to take the secular honour of a scholar-
ship. It appeared to him that these scholarships ought
to be open, and that the test of the sacrament ought to
be entirely abolished. At Trinity College, Cambridge,
taking the sacrament was purely voluntary. He
believed the first step they ought to take
was to institute a searching investigation into
the constitution of the old Universities. At Oxford
the students treated the thirty-nine articles with great
levity, which showed the worthlessness of the test
It appeared that the book in
wwhhiiechh .wthaesy aspigpelied
ed.
their names to the thirty-nine
articles contained three columns, one of which
was for the sons of noblemen, another for the sons
of geetlemen, and the third for the sons ofplebeiane, and
the great anxiety was not to put their names in the ple-
beian columns. On the other hand, however, many had
conscientious scruples as to the propriety of acceding to
these tests, and Mr. Romilly, one of the Masters at Ox-
ford, had told him that it was extremely painful to give
a refusal to a student wbo adopted dissenting
principles. How long was this degrading, this
miserable proselitism to continue ?—(Elear, hear.)
This question had too long remained in abeyance, and
ho hoped the House would now take up the question
with vigour. At all events he felt perfectly satis-
fied that the day was not far distant when they
would have a further inquiry into this great and
important subject. At present too much was thought
of what was called ancient usages and ancient learning,
and everything like modern literature was neglected.
Nothing was so common as to meet with an Oxford or
Cambridge man on the Continent, who were entirely
ignorant of French and German. They were taught such
useless things as logic, and the natural result
was that when a scholar left the University
he bad to throw aside his former books, and
enter as it were an entirely new world.
Now very little charge would be effected in this state of
things until the, system was entirely altered end some

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

THE LONDON GAZETTE.
(THIS EVENING.)

WHITEHALL, Arlin. 9, 1850.
The Lord Chancellor has appointed Francis Twigg,
of Burslena, in the county of Stafford, Gent., to be a
Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery.
Office of Ordnance, 22d April, 1850.—Royal Regi-
ment of Artillery—Sergeant-Major Thomas Hasseit to
be Quartermaster, vice Porter, retired, April 12, 1850.
Corps of Royal Engineers.—First Lieutenant Charles
John Gibb to be Second Captain, vice Miller, retired;
Second Lieutenant Francis Horatio De Vere to be First
Lieutenant vice Gibb, April 16.
BANKRUPTS.
William Walden, brush manufacturer, Park-place,
Mile-end, to surrender April 30, at eleven, and May 31,
at half past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stant-
fold, official assignee; Finney, Furnivel's Inn.
Samuel Browning, nurseryman, Farringdon, Berk-
shire, May 2, at half-past one, and June 1, at twelve, at
the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, officiel assignee, Cole-
man• street; Whits, Eyre, and Co., Bedford•row.
James Poole and Walter Poole, builders, Booth-street,
Spitalfields, May 2, at two, and June 6, at twelve, at
the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Cole-
man-street buildings; Holmer, Cheapside.
John Richard West, block and mast-maker, Mill-wall,
Poplar, May 4, at half-past one, and May 25, at twelve,
at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee,
Guildhall-chambers; Stevens and Satchell, Qeocn-street,
Cheapside.
David Williams, victualler, May 3, and June 7, at
eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Turner, offi-
cial assignee, Liverpool; Evans, Liverpool.
William Sharman, builder, Hulme, Lancashire, May
9 and 31, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court.
Hobson, official assignee, Manchester; Slater, Manchester.

COURSE OF EXCHA
Amsterdam 12 1%
Ditto, three months.. 12 3%
Rotterdam .... ••.. • • 12 a%
Antwerp .. 25 8234
8ru55e15.............. 23 82%
Elamburgh . • 11.1.8 . 13 13
Paris, 3 days'sight •• 25 €0
Ditto, 3 months .... 25 80
Aarseilles ............ 25 82y,
Bourdeaux.... .
Frankfort on Maine.... 121%
Berlin • ... •
Vienna, effec. fib...." 12 9
Trieste, ditto.. ...... 12 9
Petersburgh, Sil. Rble.. 37%
Madrid .... • • ........ 49%
Cadiz • • •••••• •• • • •• 50
Barcelona .• • .........
Seville,. •• 1,41. •• •• •• ••

NGE.-(THIS DAY

1Gibra1tar..............

Legh0rn........ •• ..•• 80 70
Genoa•••••••••••••••• 26 10

Venice.

gaples ..• •••.••• • • • • • 40%
Palermo, per0z........ 1224
Messina .............. 122a4
Lisbon.... ............ 63
Oporto .• ...• .... ••.. • • 53%
I:io Janeiro ...„.....

Buenos Ayres .. .... • •
New York, 60 dapesight

Philidelplia .. :. • • ....

?IMF!! OF BULLION, PBS OF.
Foreign Gold in laars...£3 17 9
Portugal Gold Coin 0 0 0
Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0
New Dollars • • ... • 0 4 10%
Silver In bars 0 4 11%

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From the London Nero Price Current, April 23.)
Sucau.—To-day there was a fair demand for the best
refining and grocery sorts of West India, but previous
rates were fully supported. For inferior and brown
there was not much enquiry ; lower terms were not
taken. The public sales of 200 hhds 3 trcs Barbadoes
went at full terms, and rather above for superior sorts ;
good and fine yellow realized 398 to 425, and low to mid
36s 6d to 38s 6d per cwt. The total sales to-day are
SSO hhds and trcs.

MAURITIUS.—This afternoon the quantity of
Mauritius Sugar submitted to public sale amounted to
32 casks and 8,795 bags, The trade operated with
much caution, and a small part only sold at about pre-
vious rates. Yellow went at from 34s to 41s, brown 281
to 33s 6d, and grey at 33s 6d to 37s per cwt.
REFINED.—To-day refined Sugar was operated in
with caution for home trade purposes; still, brown gro-
cery Lumps were not to ba obtained under 48s per cwt.
The market is quiet for bonded Crushed Sugar at last
week's rates. To•day at public sale 250 boxes Sugar
Candy were taken in at 57s to 58s for brown. To-day
at public sale 100 puns Cuba Molasses were taken in
at 15s 6d, being above the value.
EAST,:INDIA. —This afternoon the parcels of Bengal
Sugar submitted to public sale amounted to 12,713 bags;
about 10,000 sold, but at a reduction of 6d to is per cwt,
and the biddings were languid; low to fine white Be-
nares went at from 36s to 39s 6d, soft yellow 31s 6d to
3es 6d, brown 28s to 304, strong yellow 37s 6d to 41s,
white ditto 42s to 46s 6d.
FORElGN.—Although rather lower terms have been
acceded to for bonded sorts, still there has not been
much improvement in the export demand. The private
purchases are three cargoes of white Havannah at 30$ to
325, one of yellow at 20s lid, and one of brown Bahia
at 18s per cwt. There is still only a small demand for the
purposes of refining under bond, and the supply of Sugar
at market is larger than in the former week. At auction
759 chests white Havannah were taken in at 28s to
31s 6d for mid to fine ; 595 boxes yellow 17$ 6d to 20s
for ord to fine, and 164 bags low brown at 155. For
duty-paid sorts the market has presented a quiet aspect,
and prices are rather lower ; there is also a larger
quantity on offer. At public sale 750 hhds 300 barrels
Porto Rico were only in part sold ; good to
very fine yellow at 39s to 42s 6d, low to mid-
dling 36s to 38 6d, good to fine brown to
34s to 35s 6d; 52 cases Bahia were taken in at 36s to
37s for brown, and white at 40s; 132 chests mid yellow
Havannah 38s 6d to 395. Of Java, 1,216 baskets 3,247
bags were only in part sold at 39s to 42s 6d for mid is
fine strong grey, and at 385 6d to 42s for damp and
washed.
MOLASSES.—Prices have declined for West India, and
the sales are chiefly confined to 200 puns Demerara at
13s 6d to 14s per cwt, a part landed last year. The
value of better sorts is from 15s to 17e. There are
sellers of Bengal at 13s to 13s 6d, and Mauritius at 12s
to 12s 6d; still few buyers are to be met wlth.
COFFEE.—To-day there was a fair desire evinced to
operate in Native Ceylon Coffee, and at public sale 979
bags sold at 46s to 465 6d for good ord. The market
for Plantation has a quiet appearance, and at auction 107
casks 400 bags went at moderate rates, but the chief
part sold; low to good ord at 42s 6d to 45s 6d, fine to
fine fine ord 46s to 49s 6d, low mid and mid 50s to 545,
and better sort 55s to 60.
Cocoa.—British Plantation is offered at a redaction
on former terms of 3s to 4s per cwt, yet operations
have been limited, and of 430 bags Trinidad at auc
tion, a small part only sold ; low to good red, of the
new crop, went at from 38s to 435, ord and mid grey 355
to 375, the chief part was out of condition and of inferior
quality. Of Grenada 200 bags were taken in at 36s to
38s for good and fine red. Only trifling sales have been
made in Foreign, and 27s to 29s is the value. This af-
ternoon at auction 408 bags Bahia Cocoa were taken in
at 30s for fine red.
TEN.—There are ready sellers of Black, rather under
former rates, and the supply continues to get larger ;
Town and Country dealers also continued to operate
with caution, and an impression exists that a further re-
duction will take place. The value of low to good
ordinary Congou is 9d to 9id, Medium kinds 101 to is
Id, and better sorts is 2d to Is 83 per lb. With Green the
market is plentifully supplied, and sellers are willing to
accede to rather lower rates, still dealers operate with
caution, as a further reduction is lookrd for, more espe-
cially for low and midd sorts. Scented and Pekoe Teas
are not much required, and can be obtained at a slight
reduction, as supplies are more plentiful. At public sale
last 13,900 pkgs of Tea were offered and 5,000 were sold.
SPICES —Tc-day Cassia Lignea was not offered at
any further reduction, but the demand was not bettor;
of 615 chests offered at auction a small part only sold.
Pile one at 85e, Pile two and three 763 to 794 and out

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 23, 1850.

of condition 68s to 72s per cwt; of Bourbon Cloves 50
bags were sold at 7-Id, and damaged 61:f per lb. 4 cases
of fair Nutmegs were sold at 2s 7d. Fur Pimento the
market is quiet, and 257 bgs were taken in at 5J to
sd, these are rather lower rates.
SPIRITS.—In consequence of a further reduction
having teen acceded to for Leeward Island Rum, rather
more business has been concluded. The sales are 300
puns at is 3i-d to la 4d proof, and low old landed
is 33 per gallon. The purchases made in East India
have been to a limited extent only, prices are on the
decline, and rule at is 31d to is 3d. Demerara is
cheaper, and only small purchases have been made at 23
to 2s 4d for 30 to 40 per cent over proof,: Fine Jamaica
is held for full terms, still few home or export
orders have been completed. Other kinds met
with little attention, and can be obtained at
rather lower terms. Fur 20 to 29 per cent
over proof prices vary from 2s 2d to 2s 6d, 30 to 36 over
ord to good 2s 7d to 3s 2d, and fine 3s 4d to 4s 2d. Id
Brendy operations have been limited for all purposes.
Cognac best brands of the vintage of 1849 4s 4d to 4s 6d,
1848 ditto 4s fid to 4s Bd, 1847 ditto 5s to 58 2d, inferior
sorts 2s 8d to 4s 2d, and rower rates are likely to prevail
shortly. The market is dull for Geneva is 7d to 4s 8d
for export sort, and 2s 3d to 3s 3d for fine. There is
still no sale fur British made Spirit at 9s 5J to 9s 611
proof, and for Gin 7s 10d to 8s 4d for 17 to 22 per cent
under proof.
COCHINEAL.—This afternoon the public sales of Co-
chineal went off at Id to 2d per lb decline, but 227 bags
were all sold at from 3s 7d to 4s 2d for low to fine Hon-
duras silvers. _ _ .

,he euluniPs.

SALTPETRE.—To-clay there was not much desire
evinced to oporate in Saltpetre. At public sale 2,694
bags Calcutta went at 6cl per cwt under former rates,
and a part only sold at 24s 6tl to 26s per cwt for 141 to
41 per cent refraction, and not refracted at 243 to 265
per cwt.
RICE.—To-day East India Rice met with little atten-
tion, but lower rates were not acceded to. At auction,
the sound, of 699 pockets and 2,717 bags Bengal was
nearly all taken in at Os to lOs for middling and fine
white; a small parcel of inferior sold at Ss per cwt.
INDIGO.—OnIy a small amount of business has been
concluded fin East India during the last few days by
shippers or home dealers, but lower rotes are not
taken. The quantity declared for auction is now 10,412
chests. For Spanish the market has become quiet, and
the public sales of 150 serous of Guatemala tnis after-
noop, went at rather lower rates from 2s 4d to 4s 3d
per lb.
Oms.—Purchases t i a fair extent have been made in
Linseed Oil for exportation, and a good home demand
has been experienced, whilst the rates paid are 32s to
32s 3d per cwt on the spot. Only limited pur-
chases have been made in Rape Seed Oil ; a de-
sire is evinced to sell pale at 39i to 40s, and
brown at 37s to 38s. Opinion is uefevourable with rt--
, spent to Olive Oil, and prices rule at from 441 to 461 per
tun. For Palm Oil the rates paid for flue and good are
30s to 31s per cwt. With COOO3, Nut the market is
plentifully supplied, and there is no improve-
ment
in demand. Of 600 packages at auc-
tion a small part only sold at 31/ to 341
for middling to fine. In Cod operations have been
limited, but there are not sellers under 341 103 per tun.
For Seal few buyers aro to be met with for any pur-
pose, and a desire is evinced to sell, pale at 361
to 361 10s, and other sorts 311 to 351. Au
desire has been evinced to operate in Southern, owing
to a small supply prices have advanced, and rule at hum
32/ to 34/for common to fine. For Sperm a good de-
mand rxiqs; holders display firmness and obtsin
811 lOs to 821 for fine British. Tile value of prime
Heaclmatter is 871 to 891 per tan.
TaLnow.—There is no reduction to notice in prices of
Russian on the spot, th,re aro sellers of fine P. Y. C. at
35s 9cl to 37s per cwt. Only limited sales are
m ale for delivery in the last three months
of the year, although 38s 3d to 38s 6d
have been accepted. Home melted has been sold to a
fair extent, but at the moderate terms cf 35s to 36s net
cash. Ocher sorts of Tallow are net cheaper. At auction
720 pkgs American were sold at from 32s to 36s 9d
for low to fine; 420 clts Sydney 34s to 365; 8 eke Cspe,
line 38s 6d to 38s 6cl to 38s 9a; 412 cks Odessa, sheep
34s 9d t) 345, ox 35s 6d, and 88 else Archangel 34s to
353 per cwt. Fur iublic competition 1,400 pkgs are
declared.

DEAL, APRIL 22.—Wind N.N.E. to N.—Sld. Car-
t atic, Madras; Bengal, Adelaide; Prima Donna, Cape
Coast Castle; David Luckie, Demerara; Henry and
Victoria, New York; Anna Margaretta, Batavia; Ann,
Madras. The Ida, from London to Honduras, got on
the Shingles Sand last night, but came off uninjured.
COWES, APRIL 22.—Wind N.—Arid. Adele, St.
Thomas; Henriette, La Guayra, both for Hamburgh.
Sid. Fanny, New York. The Pallas, Prussian barque,
from Cardiff to New York, was abandoned in a sinking
state, April 10, lat. 40, I:,n. 37; crew saved.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF CO3IIIIOIVS, April 22.
THE INDIANS AT HUDSON'S BAY.

Mr. CHRISTY asked if the attention of the Govern-
ment bad been called to a paragraph in the newspapers
with reference to a complaint by the Government of the
United States against the Hudson's Bay Company as to
the supply of a large quantity of spirits to the native
Indians?

Lord PALMERSTON said it had come to the know-
ledge of the Government that the United States Go-
vernment had complained that the Hudson's Bay Com-
pany supplied the Indians with spirits as an article of
commerce. Tbat representation had been referred back
to the Hudson's Bay Company, and their reply was that
the agents of the company did not supply spirits to the
Indians in any way as an article of commerce, but that a
very small proportion had been given to tLe hunters when
they came to the settlement, which he (Lord Palmer: ton`
might say was drunk on the premises."—(Laughter

oi State.

VANCOUVER'S ISLAND.
Mr. HUME asked whether the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government had any obj"ction to lay on
the table of the House a report of what proceedings
had taken place respecting Vancouver's Island?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would inquire if
there were any papers on the subject, and if so, ho
would lay them on the table.
NAVIGATION LAWS.

Mr. RICARDO wished to know if any communica-
tions had taken place between the Governments of
France and England with respect to the regulations on
British shipping, and more especially with respect to
those coming from Asia, Africa, and America.
Lord PALMERSTON said there were communica-
tions going on generally with the French Government
respecting those alterations in the French system which
would 'be the natural consequences of th• Passenger Act
of last session, but he was not able at present to state
the result.

EDUCATION BILL.
The Earl of ARUNDEL and SURREY said he had
that morning received a letter from the Hon. Member
for the West Riding, correcting a statement which had
appeared in a report of his (the Earl of Arundel's) speech
on the Hon. Member for Oldham's Education Bill. He
had been reported to have said that Mr. Froude had
been appointed to the presidency of the new Manchester
College, whereas it appeared from the Hon. Member's
letter that the college was not yet formed, nor had any
appointment yet been made.
ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION BILL.
Mr. HORSMAN wanted to know if he had under-
stood the Noble Lord at the, head of the Government
that he would proceed with the Ecelesia,stical Commission
BM on Friday ?

Lord J. RUSSELL said he intended to go through
the Australian Colonies Bill in Committee before he could
speak with any certainty.
Mr. DISRAELI said he wished to notice the
statement of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that he
did not expect there would be any discussion on his mo-
tion fur next week, and he wished to state that he
thought it very probable, considering the interest with
which the subject was regarded out of doors, and the
unfortunate delay which had taken place, that the sub-
ject would not b., passed over without any discussion.
ADULTERATION OF COFFEE. _ _

Mr. ANSTEY gave notice that on an early day he
should move fur papers in continuation on the adultera-
tion of coffee.

AUSTRALIAN COLONIES BILL.

The House then went into Committee on the Austra.
Tian Colonies Bill.
On clause 7, _ _

Mr. V. SMITH said that, at the risk of exciting
laughter, he must say thit they were going on much too
fast with this Bill. The last clause had been agreed to
with very little deliberation, especially the last part of it.
As regarded the New South Wales Bill, its history
could not be too frequently told, as it did not appear to
be very well understood. Now that Bill was more a
makeshift than a piece of legislation. From 1788 to
1823, the Colony was treated more like a
prison-house than anything else, and so illegally
did the House act towards it, that in the year 1823 the
Government was compelled to bring in an Act of In-
demnity, and from that year up to 1839 the House was
engaged in discussing how they should deal with
the colony. In 1840 the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government brought in the Bill
under which the government of the colony at present
existed. It was proposed to continue the operation of
that Bill for ten years, and now that the period had
elapsed, it was high time that they extended to all the
Australian colonies similar institutions that were
enjoyed by our North American colonies. They now,
however, proposed to leave the colonies to shift for
themselves; but when be looked at the vast amount of
emigration which had recently been carried on with our
Australian colonies, be thought it was too bad to deprive
them of the advice of the mother country. Besides, it was
proposed to leave the matter to be settled by the as-
sembly. Now the assembly did not represent a
third cf the colonists, and he doubted much
whether the decision would be satisfactory unless
some change was made in its constitution.
He had the authority of 23 different members of
the assembly in New South Wales, for saying that there
was no objection in the colony to the admission of the
"squatting " interest, which was composed of a most in-
fluential, intelligent, and respectable body of
persons. He thought the House ought to con-
sider whether it would not be advisable to
admit this large class into the new assembly, and make
them to have a voice in the decision of those important
questions, the settlement of which was afterwards to
diverge into the constitution of this important colony.
Mr. HAWES said the Bill had been introduced with
an intention of leaving the existing constitution of New
South Wales as near as possible, if not exactly, in the
same state in which it now stood. It was possible that
various improvements might be suggested in the Bill,
but the express wi,h of the colonists was that it
should not vary from the old New South Wales
Act. His Right ILn. Friend (Sir Vernon Smith)
said a promise was held out when the Bill was intro-
duced that the colony should have representative

institutions funned on the same basis as those

of other countries, and it was with that view
the Bill now before the Liouse had been proposed.
He fully admitted the importance of extending the quali-
ficatien to the squatting interest. In the Legislature of
New S(uth Wra;es the popular members were as two to
one to the others; and ti:ey were able enough to l•oing
about any reform they wisLed. That being so, the
Government wished thew matters to be ai much

as possible (fleeted by the colonists themselves.

For 'these reason, therefore, he would far rather see

that question diseusied and the measure originated in

Mr. ADDERLEY said the Government had clearly
given a constituent assembly which could not possibly
represent the feelings of the community.
Mr. W YLD said he could wry well imagine the con-
stitution proposed by the Government might suit the
colony of New South Wales or Victoria, but here they
were legislating for a colony which was at this
moment exporting a large amount of convicts.
In the year 1842 Van Diemeu's Land, to some extent,
had been in a state of prosperity, because they had
almost altogether ceased to send convicts there, but since
that time the tide of transpo, tation had flown in there

with renewed strength; arid since that time the free po-
pulation, he understood, were leaving the settlement with
all the speed in their power. He did not think that the
present Bill gave sufficient control over the convict po-
pulation to the Government, and what ho proposed to
. _

. .
do was to enable her Majesty and her successors to name
an executive council, consisting of the Chief Justice, the
Colonial Secretary, the Colonial Treasurer, and the Police
Magistrate, to ex rcise control over the convict population.
The lion. Member concluded by moving a resolution to

that effect as an amendment on clause 7.
After a few words from Mr. MO WATT,
Mr. LABOUCHERE said he hoped the Hon. Member
would not at present persist in his amendment. Clause 7

was one which certainly ought to stand.
Sir W. MOLESWORTH said that the Under-Secre-
tary for the Colonies had not yet answered the ques-
tion which had been put to him by the lion. Membur for
Northampton.
Mr. 11A WES replied that the new c:iincils would
have no such power as the Honourable Baronet men-
tioned ; but that any measure for alteritig a constitution
would have to be sent home for the consideration of the
Colonial-office and the assent of the Crown, before it could

become law. Subeqatntly the Honourable Gentleman
directed the attention of Sir W. Melesworth to the

first part of the clause, which enacted that the proceed-
ings of the new councils with reference to the altera-
tion of a constitution should be in accordance with
" the conditions now by law required; " consequently,
whatever laws were pasted with respect to an alteration
of the franchise, and the Secretary of State refused

to give them his sanction, this House would have an
opportunity of questioning the decision of the Secretary

Sir W. MOLESWORTII—Then it followed that no
constitution could be established in the colonies until
this Eill had been sent out, and they had agreed to a
constitution, transmitted h to the Colonial-office, and it
was sent lxick to them again. Thus they would not be
able to have a new constitution in a shorter period than

two years. He *ugggsted therefore that they should no
now pass this portion of the Bill, but wait for further in.
formation L-on the ecionies. . .

Mr. HUME—The Bill gave the colonists the power
of basing the sufTra2,e upon whatever principle they
pleased, and of framing whatever constitution they
might think fit. They would then send it home for the
approval of the Government here; and this he thought
would induce them to take greater care in its prepa-
ration.

Mr. ANSTEY said the colonies with which ho was
acquainted would infiuit .ly rather that this Bill should
be passed in its integrity than that there should
be even a month's delay in its progress. He thought
Sir W. Molesworth had not adopted a fair course
towards the House and the Government in regard to
the Bib.
Mr. MACGREGOR said that no Bill would give
more satisfaction to the colonies than this would; and he
could assure gentlemen who opposed it that they would
get little credit in Van Diemen's Land fur their op-
position.
Sir W. MOLESWORTH—Was it not the fact that
two years must elapse before a now Legislature could be
established in the colonies?
Mr. HAWES did not think it would occupy that
space of time. Undoubtedly they could not proceed fo
legislate until the Bill was passed. It would have been
passed last year but for the multitudinous amendments
which were brought forward.
Mr. ADDERLEY—It was clear that the plan of the
Government would create far more delay then any other
plea which had yet been suggested. Who was the origin
of the delay which had taken place but the Ministers
themselves? They had been urged to proceed with
the measure before Easter, but they delayed the debate
a month or six weeks, in order to reproduce old dis-
patches, from which they could draw no information
whatever.
Mr. WYLD said he would not press the amendment.
It was accordingly withdrawn, and clausu 7 was
agreed to, as also were clauses 8 and 9.
On clause 10, giving power to alter electoral'. districts
and the number of members of the Legislative Council,
Mr. ANSTEY moved the omission of the proviso at-
tached to the clause, which provided that one-third of
the members of the chamber should be nominees of the
Crown. The effect of his amendment would be to have
the absolute number of those nominees the same as now
proposed, but it would prevent the Government from
increasing that number pari pessu with any increase of
the elected members which might be hereafte:c decided
upon by the colony in a future change of their constitu-
tion under the provisions of this Act.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the Act passed fur New South
Wale in 1842, in conformity with which the present
measure was framed, provided that one-third of the
members of the Legislative Council should be appointed
by the Crown; but, of that one-third, only one-hell
should hold offices of emolument under the Crown, so
that, in fact. the number of official members was only
one-sixth of the whole Legislative Council. That ap-
peared moderate enough, but if the Hon. anti Learned
Member's amendment were adopted it would quite dis-
turb it.
Mr. MOWATT did not think it expedient to give the
Committee the trouble of again dividing upon the point,
and he, therefore, suggested to the Hon. and Learned
Member to withdraw it, particularly as he his useif (Mr.
Mowatt) proposed to offer an amendment on the report,
requiring that the nominated members should be only
one-fourth, on which occasion he meant to go fully into
the subject.
Mr. ADDERLEY approved of the suggestion of the
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Mowatt), and charged the Hon.
and Learned Member for Youghal (Mr. An stey) with
inconsistency in the course he was taking.
Mr. ANSTEY defended himself from the charge of
inconsistency.
Mr. ROEBUCK did not understand what the Govern-
ment meant by the proviso. He wanted to know why
they did not leave it to the Legislative Ch ambers and
people of the Australian colonies to decide the ratio
which should hereafter exist between the m embers no-
minated by the Crown and those elected by tee people.
Mr. HAWES, in reply, observed that they meant to
stand by the New South Wales Act, and ad; sere to the
proportion fixed therein, which had been foul id to work
well, and against which no complaints had be en made.
Mr. ROEBUCK could understand that r easoning if
this Act was meant to establish a fixed constitution far
the colonies. But no such thing was intended, and it was
required that in any future change of the cieestitution a
preponderating majority—he believed two-thirds—ef the
chamber, should be in favour of it. Under these cir-
cumstance they ought to allow the colonists themselves
to fix the relative proportions of the two classes of Mem-
bers. It made him rather suspicious to find the Govern-
ment this acting.
Mr. ANSTEY would not press his amenCiment after
what had been stated by the Hon. Gentleman opposite
(Mr. Mowatt.)
The amendment was accordingly withdrawn and the
clause agreed to.
Clause 11 was agreed to.
On clause 12, repealing so much of the lith and 6th
Vict., c. 76, as required all Bills altering the salaries of
judges to be reserved for the pleasure of the Crown,
Sir W. MOLES WORTH inquired what was the
cause of this alteration. According to the clause as it
now stood, judges' salaries might be reduced in any of
the other four Australian colonies; while in Sew South
Wales it could not be done without being reserved far
the consent of the Crown. He thought the clause ought
to be reserved for farther consideration.
Mr. HAWES said the point had not befo re occurred
to him; but perhaps the House would consen;; to let the
clause stand as it was for the present, a nd, on the
report, he would see what could be done with respect
to it.
Mr. ROEBUCK urged the postponement of the clause.
Lord J. RUSSELL said it would always depend upon
the instructions of the Governor what Bills of that kind
he should give his assent to; and for Ids guidance in
this case it was proposed to repeal the restrictions exist-
ing with respect to New South Wales. He did not now
argue whether that was right or not. He only stated its
purport.
Mr. ROEBUCK again urged the propriety of post-
poning the clause for further consideration. The
Honourable Member also objected to the governors of
any of these colonies being empowered, without the
special assent of her Majesty, to alter any of the judges'
salaries. There was no principle more Important
than that judges' salaries; should not be altered while in
office.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the salaries of existing judges
would not be altered.
Sir W. MOLESWORTH said the clause did not agree
with the 17th clause, which gave the power of settling
the salaries of judges; governors, and "none other,"
were exempted from the operation. The clause made it
lawful for the colonial legislature and the governor to
pass au Act for altering the salaries of judges.
Mr. ADDERLEY said, that the alteration of judges'
salaried was entirely a local affair; and he thought it
would be better to leave that question as it Was.
Lord J. RUSSELL should art object to a proviso to
the effect that no alteration in the salaries of the judges
in existence should take place, and ho would not oppose
the Hon. Gentleman if he proposed one.
The clause was then agreed to.
Clause 13.
Mr. E. DENISON moved an amendment on this
clause, " giving power to the separate colonies to sell,
lease, or otherwise dispose of the waste lands of the
Crown in each several colony." It was desirable to cen-
eider the land of the c,lonies as the inheritance of the
poor. The Government had left its disposition, how-
ever, to the federal assembly. and he (Mr. E. Denison)
did not believe it could he left in worse hands. The
Legislative Assembly of South Australia had expressed
its opinion on the plan propose:!; and it was to the
effect that the federative assembly was of no manner of
use. The same opinion was expressed by the Governor
of Van Diemen's Land, though the Noble Lord at the