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London, England, 1844-04-03 00:00:00

MENAI BRIDGE.

Mr. GORE moved for a copy of any report of Mr.
Provis to the Commissioners of Woods and Forests
since the Ist day of October, 1843, on the Menai
Bridge.—Agreed to. •
HARBOUR OF REFUGE.
Mr. GORE also moved for a copy
.of all letters of in-
structions to the naval officers and civil engineers ap-
pointed in 1843 to report upon the harbours of Holy-
head and Port Dynllaen, as a packet station between
London and Dublin, and as a harbour of refuge for the
Channel trade.:---Agreed to.
GRAND JURY CESS (IRELAND).
Mr. WYSE then moved for copies of the lists re-
turned by the collectors of grand jury cess for the
county of the city of Dublin, to the clerks of the peace
for the said city, containing the names of men qualified
to serve as jurors for the said city for the year 1844,
showing the corrections and adjudications made therein
by the Right Hon. the Recorder of the said city, pur-
suant to the provisions of the Act 3 and 4 Will. IV.,
c. 91. Also, a copy of the general list of jurors, made
out from such, lists by the said Recorder. Copy. of the
" Jurors' Book for the year 1844," as delivered to the
Sheriff of the city of Dublin, or to his under-sheriff, or
the town clerk. Copy of the " Special Jurors' List,"
made by the said Sheriff, or his under-sheriff, for the
year 1844. Copies of all correspondence with or by the
clerks of the p
n
peace for the said city, in relation to the re-
visio of the jurors' list for the year 1844, and especi-
ally between them and the Recorder for the said city,
and Mr. Peirce Mahony. Copies of all affidavits filed in
the Crown side of the Court of Queen's Bench in Ire-
land, since the Ist day of December, 1843, in the cause
of " The Queen against O'Connell and others," and of
all protests made to the clerk of the Crown, also filed in
the said cause, at the striking of the jury in the month
of January last; together with a copy of the challenge
to the jury array in the said cause, and of the demurrer
filed in reply to the same.
Lord ELIOT was understood to say that he could not
consent to the motion.

Mr. SHAW said that as the motion personally con-
cerned him, he hoped the House would excuse him for
saying a few words on the subject. He thought that
the House had no jurisdiction in the matter. He should
object to the House making any order of the kind. This
was a matter of judicial adjudication, and if he submit-
ted to make a return of this kind, there was no return
which he might not be called on to make. If the House
sanctioned the motion, he should, with all possible re 7
spect, refuse to comply with the order.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that if the Right Hon.
Gentleman opposed the motion because there were not
sufficient grounds fur it, he could understand it ; but
when the Right Hon. Gentleman took so unusual a step
of opposing it, because it was a judicial proceeding, and
that he would refuse to comply with the order of the
House, if it were made, he really thought that the
Right Hon. Gentleman was taking a ground that was
altogether untenable.—(Hear, hear.) He did not say
that the House ought to agree to the motion if the
Right Hon. Gentleman said there were no sufficient
grounds for making it; but if an order of the House were
made for similar returns from the Court of Queen's
Bench, he felt convinced that the Chief Justice would
comply with the order of the House. He would not un-
dertake to say that that House had no power to call for
notes of judicial proceedings. Such a doctrine could not
be supported. It would be lowering the authority of
the House to suppose that it could be so, and without giv-
ing any opinion as to whether or not the motion ought to
be granted, he must protest against the doctrine of the
Right Hon. Gentleman which denied that the House had
any right to investigate any course of conduct which he,
as a judge, might have thought proper to pursue.
Mr. SHAW said the. Noble Lord was mistaken. He
(Mr. Shaw) did not deny the right of the House of Com-
mons to inquire into his conduct, and to address the
Crown for his removal if it chose, but he said they had
no right to his notes which he had taken judicially. If
the return were ordered to be made from the Queen's
Bench, he felt convinced that the judges of that court
would not do it. The Noble Lord must be aware of a
previous case in which Lord Holt had refused to obey
an order of the House of Lords for the production of his
notes upon a trial. He told the House of Lords that they
had no control over these notes. He did not deny for
one moment the right of the House to investigate his
conduct, but they had no right to call for his judicial
notes, and they would be useless, because the House
possessed uo power to reverse or affect his decision in
any way.
Lord J. RUSSELL did not mean to contend that
these notes were necessary for the House to adjudicate,
for it had no power of adjudication on the subject. But
they might be necessary for the purpose of investigation.
:He would take the celebrated Macclesfield case in which
the House had called for all the notes, papers, and re-
cords of the court. •
Mr. SHAW admitted the right 'of the House to call
for the records of the court, but he denied that they had
any right to call for a judge's notes.
Sir G. GREY did not understand the objection of the
Right Hon. Gentleman. It might be necessary to have
the original lists. and. to compare -them with the lists
Which had been ultimately adjudicated on. It was use
less to overlook the fact that discrepant statements had
been- elsewhere made on the subject, that it was matter
bf dispute, and that these returns would show what
statement was the correct one. •
Mr. WYSE said he must insist on his motion notwith-
Standing the opposition of the Noble Lord.
Sir R. PEEL could not take upon him to define what
were the powers of the law respecting motions, for
they very much depended on the nature of the case.
For instance if an lion. Member were to move for the
private memoranda of a judge in a trial he could not
think it probable the House would call for those men
moranda.

Mr. WARBURTON said a great blunder had been
committed, and it was very desirable to know how it had
occurred. He would advise his Hon. Friend to get
what papers he could, and if they were not satisfactory,
to move for a Select Committee.

Mr. HUTT said it did not appear that any evil would
arise from the production of the papers, and the with-
holding of them would probably create distrust where it
did not now exist.

Mr. WYSE said it was a matter of importance, but if
the'returns were granted at all, they should be granted
as soon as possible ; otherwise the information would be
of no use. The Hon. Member then withdrew the motion.
POST-OFFICE.

Mr. FIAWES then moved for a return of the number
of chargeable letters which have passed through the
London. General Post (inwards and outwards) since the
first general reduction of postage, on the sth day of
December, 1839, dividing the time, as far as practicable,
into periods of tbur complete weeks each, and distin-
guishing, as regards each period, the unpaid, paid, and
stamped, and total number of letters ; also, of the esti-
mated average number for four weeks of the year im-
mediately preceding the reduction, distinguished in like
manner. Return of the number of letters which have
passed through the London District Post (exclusive of
all General Post letters) for the same periods ; and
distinguishing in the same manner as the last return.
4%. comparative statement of the number of letters' (in-
luding franks during the existence of the franking
Privilege) delivered in the United Kingdom in one
week of each' calendar month, beginning with
November, 1839, and ending with the present time.
An account showing the gross and net Post-office reve•
-
nue, and the cost of management, for the United King-
dom, for each of the years ending the sth day of
January 1839, 1840, 1841, 1842, 18'43, and 1844, ex-
cluding from the account, whether of gross revenue or
cost of management, any advances that may have been
made by the English to the Irish Post-office, and
advances to the Money Order-office. Account, show-
ing, as nearly as it can be given, the gross amount of
postage revenue for England and Wales (exclusive of
returns for refused letters, &c.), for the month ending
the sth day of January 1840, (during which the four-
penny rate was established) ; and also for the months
ending the sth day of January 1842, the sth day of
January 1843, and the sth day of January 1844. An
account of the payments by the Post-offie made during
each of the years ending the sth day of January 1839,1840,
1841,1842, 1843, and 1844, for the conveyance of the mails
by railway in Great Britain ; distinguishing in each
instance the payments for work done within the year
from payments for work done in previous years. Return
of the number and amount of money orders issued and
paid in England and Wales during each quarter, from
the quarter ending the sth day of April, 1839, to that
ending the sth day of January, 1844, inclusive. Similar
return as regards money orders issued and paid in Lon-
don. Return by the Admiralty, showing in detail the
different items which compose the sum of 612,850/.,
charged for packets, in return No. 201, of session 1843.
Return of all provincial post-offices in which, owing
to .the death or resignation of the deputy-post-
master, compensations have lapsed to the revenue
since September, 1839, showing in each case the
amount of such compensation, and the total cost of the
office to the revenue, both before and after its re-arrange-
ment ; the cost after re-arrangement being stated, first,
as originally proposed by the Post-office, second, as
authorised by the Treasury. Copy of all railway mails
as directed by the Treasury to be made in Augttst,lg42;
together with an addition, showing the length of each
line as per official notice to the Company, as per Post-
office time-bill, and as per actual payments
,by the Post-
office to the Company, past and present ; also, an ex-
planation of any discrepancy which may appear in such
return. Annual return of fees, perquisxtes, &c. 7 for the

year 1842,its ordered by the Treasury minute of the 15L!:i
day of May, 1842. Return of the details, as subluitte."
to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, on which the estti
mate No. 201 of last session was prepared. Return el,
letter.s registered in the travelling post-office in a wee
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in July pi August, 1843. •
After 1s few observations from the CHANCEL,
of-the EXCHEQUER, the returns were agreed to.
UNIVERSITY OF DUBLIN.
Mr. WYSE then moved for returns showing til
annual amount of income received by the University
Dublin, during each of the last ten years; distinguisbili?
the sources from which 'such income has been derive,:
with the amount in gross and net derived from en
source respectively:- Estimated and received amount
annual income during each the last ten yearS fro;
livings in the gift of the University of Dublin. List.of
emoluments, whether under head of salaries or fe,
for rooms in college, and commons or otlier allowafle
enjoyed by the provost, senior and junior fellows, scholii*
professors, and officers of the University of Dublin, shl
ing the amount enjoyed by each respectively,- with
names of each person receiving the same, and the OP'
gious persuasion to which he. belongs. Amount of
nual receipts carried to the Tutors'. Fund, during est
of the last ten years. Amount of annual receipt,l
fees not included in the above, for matriculation ss
conferring of degrees, during the last ten years res Pfc;
tively. Amount of annual receipts for fees for retaiO4
On the books names of graduates entitled to vote, at
Parliamentary elections for the University, durine eac
of the last ten years respectively. Summaries of the°
going returns fur the whole period above specifit"
Number of fellows, senior and junior scholars and pro,
fessors, elected and appointed during the last ten year:
with dates of their several elections or appointnien''
distinguishing, to what religious persuasion they
spectively belong; total amount of undergraduateS,,
the books on the Ist day of January, 1844; the nuoi°7s
of undergraduates admitted and carried on the boo"
for the last ten years; distinguishing to what Ile;
ligious persuasion they respectively belong. Numb .
of graduates, specifying their respective degre.‘!:
for each year for the last ten years, distinguish's?
to what religious persuasion they respectively belook

- • • COLLEGE OF MAYNO-OTII
Mr. WYSE also moved for' a return of the SP;
nual amount of income received by the goof
Catholic Royal College of Maynooth each Yent;
for the.. last. ten years, distinguishing the sources ft° ;
which such income has been derived, with the amours
in gross and net derived from each source respetil.e.ll2
Lists of emoluments, whether under head of salar.,,,ile"
fees, rooms in college, or commons or other allowsli*:
enjoyed by the president, professors,, studell'
and officers of the college, 'showing the amount ell:
joyed by each respectively. Summaries of the ,
fo
going returns fer the whole period above specim
Number of_ professors, students on the foundation, /I
other officers elected or appointed each year, for the Lis
ten years. Total number of students admitted
carried on the books of the college each year,"for_n
last ten years. Number of students who have pa
"'",i
their final examination, and such as have left the collebo
each year' for the last ten years, distinguishing sUchilie
were in orders from laymen. The course in use in ,t,
college on the Ist day of January, 1844, and 'the te"'
books read in the same. •

ROYAL BELFAST INSTITUTION. ~01
Mr. WYSE, likewise moved for the annual atnotin"c
income received by the Royal Belfast Institution in
year for the last ten years; distinguishing the sole
from which such income has been derived, with e,
amount in gross and net derived from- each "source ref
spectively. List of emoluments, whether under heau.
salaries, fees, or other allowances enjoyed by the pi'd
cipal, professors, students on the foundation, if any, sot
officers of the Belfast Institution, showing the
enjoyed by each respectively, and to what religious Pc„,
suasion each belongs. Summaries of the foregoing reter;
for the whole period above specified. Nuinber of preffej
sors, students on the foundation, if any, and officers eke'
or appointed each year, for the last ten years. V;
number of students admitted and- carried on• the boei
of the institution each year, for the last ten yesLp
distinguishing the religious persuasion to which P 7
respectively belong. Number of students who hs0e
passed their final examination, and such as have left Iv,
college each year for the last ten years,. distingui6lllpl°l
the religious persuasion to which they respecti",.o
belong, and whether-in orders or laymen. The coot,
in use in the institution on the Ist day of Jarlusf
18
Sir 44, and the text books read in the same. -to
ROBERT PEEL thought it was not quite fait it
call for returns from this institution. He thougb.l,o
would not be proper to distinguish the religious persusfl",
of the members or students of the 'University. °ot
posed the motion in its present form, because lie thoegA
no good could'result from it, and because he consider;
it might form a very inconvenient ptecedent, and °
detrimental to public business. . g
Mr. SHAW also opposed it, and thought tloth;11
could be more invidious and unreasonable than to
upon professional gentlemen in the University to silo
the amount of their private emolumenti. Nothing' tp
his opinion, could be more improper. With regsl7,ol,
that part of the motion calling for a return of the fl,", 0
hers of Catholics and Protestants, he thought, as we:
10
being-only injudicious, it was very useless, as it waP. "er
known that scholars and fellows in that uni',icy
sity must be Protestants, but that Roman Cathe' of
might be, and great numbers were, undergraduates
Trinity College.
After a fpw words from Sir R. PEEL, tue'
Mr. WYSE consented to withdraw the present
as
tion, at the same time promising to introduce one in
amended form.
Sir R. PEEL moved that the Select Committee
er;f
ofl
controverted elections do consist of sixteen Mem,-."h-dii°
and that Lord Ashley's name be added to the same ‘-`"
mittee.—Agreed tor
The Report of the Committee of Supply was the
brought up and received.
The Orders of the Day were then disposed of, P.
the House adjourned till Monday, the'lsth. of April.

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Afl'ghanistan,
under .General Pollock," by Lieut4reealvvio
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WRITEFRIARS ; OR, VIE DAYS OF LAIARISo :00
SECOND; an Historical Romance. A third-edition ei .
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depy the ingenuity and skill with which the. authoiriott
wrought his story; and the power of description eviqj
in all his principal scenes, many of which actually stalloo
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in the year 1667, and ending in 1683, we have the gre3. 0
of London; the Titus Oates' plot, Colonel Blood's -c0n5g,1.11,70
the troubles in Scotland, with the battle of Bothwell
the Rye-house plot, and other historical events. of the
all introduced with considerable skill and effect. n
general views of the aspect of the times, of ,the slats 93
society, and in his description of London and its,purtic",
they existed in those 'days,. the author has been very of'
cessful. The jolly scenes in Alsatia are perfect in their Ire'
Amongst the numerous historical characters which are Woe
ducCd in these pages, we may mention thoSe of Charleatlif
Second and his Queen, Rochester, Buckingham, Monrttest
Shaftesbury, Russell, Sydney, Judge Jeft'reo, Titus
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BIRTHS.

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Mr. Henry Jarvis, of a son. : • I'ol'f
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_On st ult., at the Bury B, Chesham,-uckingliat . ioi
the lady of William Lowndes, hsq., of a daughter. hg`
On the 31st ult., at Denmark-hill,' the lady 0' 00 Barron, Esq:', of a daughter. ' OOO
On the 31st ult.; in Gordon-square, the lady of
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Peacock, Esq., of a son. . r El"
On the 31st ult., in Montagu-square, the lady
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Reeve, Esq.; of a daughter.

MARRIED.
On, the 30th ult., at St. Alphage Church, Greoils
elitie
Masters Francis James Archer, Esq., to Amelia,.eldestds -
ter of the late Charles Bradley, Es q. ~ 101 l
On the 30th ult., at • St. Bride's, Fleet=street, 'liter
Shirley, of Salisbury-iquare, to Jane, youngest chug Mr. Johnson, of William-street, Lowtides-square

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Li, me, the Rev. John Basnetti aged 81. s(l'
'On the 28th ult., at Liverpool, Charles Boutflower, ore,
On the 29th ult., Mrs. Katharine Brown, Fitiroy-sil,
-On the 30th ult., at Old Melton Abbey, -Yorkshire, '-'
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Smithson, Esq. oil
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.0n the 30th ult., at Camberwell-grove, the
near Neweastle-u- ..
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George Reid, Esq. • . idai.'
. On the 30th ult., at llighbury, Isabella Louisa,
daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Henry Maynard. .1, Stns
On the 30th ult.; at Church-cottage, Park-roac
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well, Sarah, the wife of Mr. T. Collins, aged 57. ,• WO..
-On the 31st ult., at St. George's-road, Southway', ~
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relict of the late James Samins, of Demerara. •- ' the e •
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On the 31st ult..-p-at Sandgate, Augustus Mark, . - .
son of the,Rev. M. D. French. Catile
On the 31st ult., at Milner-square, Islington, A
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Cochran,' eldest daughter of Mr. W. Stevenson.
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