The Sun.
London, England, 1850-05-01 00:00:00

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hie!, r n 0 laris ei existed fir the sala-its ho:eae
iisp;litlisia than mow. The truth %V ai, it was
tvte,o''''.' t , institwe . ...orree.t camper-lion be-,
4. tie: sairiee of the two periods. The s(i.leriss peiu
..Peesees at the former eericel were Ler ::n :amount
ow,Y. n'i what the Holt Geetlenera lied any i Ica ` f
ths,4 t° the mode in which ;lei; were p Aid ; and tele cif
ehel!rt'e4"st
i
ta, Id system. ....lowlen of r rove:r-Tits in (he public service was the
i!ee an I the substitution of regular salariesr
la
le tit aoivu ht)
iet
dfa: feared d
the er of
by far than what we-, received under
Tthheeirorled4usitri•srtietimes
rtoeviavesdtaitfe ha i
which b eteono 11:: ell: (Uen-
-40 fill
ffi_e edstatement
tuern7deuct3ion took.
_placei
d b, Mr Bromley,
thatp of chief c'erk of stores in the at av \
I._`; •at a salary of 100/. a year, from 1763 t i 1784. It
dri!ed from the report of the Committee on fees, that
I)iasieh the salary of Mr. Bromley was but 100/. a-year,
e,s47.eied in fees 2,000/. a-year. So that his actual
2,1001 210aients. including salary of 100/ ,
' °I amthulteedafter
01, f., • Per annum. In the year 1817, many Y' a"
140 'es were abolished the same office was filed by Mr.
lliley•a
la ore th brother at a 'fixed salar. yof 740/ b.eing litt.le.
j0,.e., an one-third of the emoluments previously ei.
tie lull:, I,.ut in the year 1849-50, the scale of salary
eekra "ler elerk of the storee was fixed at 5001. to
the "lee with, and to rise 20l n-year until it attained
the 0 Inazilaluna of 6501. When they compared
atiettoureluments as they then existed with the re-
ttlee " Whieh had since taken place, the differ-
is
tiewculd he found to be enormous. taoueh no doubt,
lockue,fieed amount of salary for both periods was only
bier) at, the apparent increase was very great.—(fleet,
the result could cite a great number of similar c ases,
was til"-ti`t Of which would be just the sums. Then. there
teen:: 'Nene of plurality of offices. That system had
becc`"Y prevailed to a great extent; but it had nowht
i'llil(rat an Qad M. This was another circumstance.t as
put , render any comparison of salaries new with times
resacutejeoePtive, and would afford no true criterion of .
Ist p. as in emoluments which had really taken plac(e).
oclrditi Guvernment had done away
etleur °lents by fees, and if they had at the same
"d due f ' • with the systemtimef
reeet h, , per ermance ot public duties—if Govern-
-11, i. au interdicted this practice of making up inc me
he f'olegUler means—then the actual reduction would
trams m' to be larger than any return that could be
tileri would show; and he must say, to demand fur-
had hild
tt•jeduetions, after the amount of reduction that..
just esgell carried into effect, would be cruel and un
itseeci" the higheit degree. A publication had been
Ploye,, ,setting forth the number of persons em-
of their' the public service in France. The amount
the h salaries was not permuted to be given, but
est e...ll!nher was stated at 266.500 persons. The
ineaerr:
sohs",:a.te that could be formed of the num.bereoonnptr_y,
eiciediePloYed in the public service of this
fifteoe °R,those locally employed, was somewhere. about
vet :Persons. Now, he did not really believe theree
Vett e4Y coUntry in the world where the public servic
....(Eiarriecl on by so few persons, at such small cost.ar
the eieltr' hear.) He would not presume to say how, t
he se of Commons would be disposed to accept
told mat`al°oY of a person holding
'actit°e-ee in more than ono department, he hoped the.
office yet having
liehhc-,`.'°Uld give him credit if he said his experience in
%kin the
assured him that the servants of the public,.
body! t,henl throughout, were by no. means an overpaid
I,aye,c 'me consequence of an unwise reduction
public nt of an efficient public servant was, that the
in the
lists: were likely to lose the advantage of his ser-
-1414 it Private establishments would get them away,
aid ae ;was impossible for Government to attempt tod
pieeeadist prime offers. The only way to induce good
la as m servants to keep their posts was to keep.t
x.
.shah'ent number and at fair remuneration. His e
eletiohe,as a public officer did not lead him to the con-
atoelte-etne,t the public departments were at all over-
lieghtT
Lir the public service had first-rate men, they
tswae 0 ue
d retained, for if lost they they were not easily
Itlltleso- Ile spoke hem experience when he sai that
tieos
o,g which tended to discourage or damp then 'er-
jity t 1 Efficient public servants would prove pa
real ihn-
Audeic°hthe puSlic service. He had always thoughtht et
Ittillitie,74l a right to the whole services and the es
4tki f : °I Public servants ; and if the public had true
e_ sithee
rat 414.; servants and wished to retain them, they
He firmly be-
tiZeti the re not to discourage them. . , „
car.
effect of the Hon. Gentleman's motion, it
tileot Would be to cause great and lasting discourage-
leerk among deserving public servants. The public
Rave would not be better done by those whos
'Pottle th)ttlY lip and not heart service. This
Ilti°eial,:e found to be a sound principle—it waosn.
Sad if woich all private establishments actedtupmen,
Ivhcse kill the public business, they only go
titre
o'earts were nut in their work, they Id be
tett.) 4'nd the public work not well o.ne.w—(Hear,
10 the t '''' did not wish to express any opinion contrary
an ham'ernrs of
,bithe o
motion f the Hon. Member, o that
icer ee address be presented to her Majesty humbly
.
Ibtit°eat that she will be graciously pleased to direct
ingots Careful revision be made of the salaries crie
ewith 4,id in every department of the public servle,
eue re view to a just and adequate reduction thereof,t_
e
severslard being had to the efficient performance of
ehx.
lires,ca duties." The sentiments of the motton
tekht t entirely his opinion. He held that economyNith d° be insisted iipon, and practised consistently
I,'ted see eteictury On that opinion Government now
lie tp'o""id acted, and would continue to act.—(Hear.)
'lad sold atle the House to ass to the other business,
I°liirtieLwishing to negative directly a motion which
'move ,t,'' it kind of on Government, he would
bear "ue Previou3 question,cenre hoping at this same time
the
e would
gise Government credit for acting up to
'l'tter':ession in making such reductions as were co,n-
Neje with the due and efficient performance of tJe
'lld .pact, that being, in his opinion, the only true
1,11 ~,e.titett „on ~ ,ny . .-.-ZC beers.)
(I,oto 1')ElkIC.I;:lt having put the question, _ _
1)3`P.1 aPi
St 4 mom) expressed his opinion that the
ofec°4 °I the HO's._ Gentleman did not amount to a vote
(0,431111 bahhe Goverement. But what if it did? He
14,111%''erp) did not' care a farthing whether
(Laugh
;,er.) 1.", eut contidered it in that light or not.—(Lau,,ot
„`" te",,was clear from the speech of the Chancellor
'or e chequer that there were to be neither reductions
ehteita?likasions of salaries. The Chancellor of the Ex-
_
tkrt. "ad drawn a corn. arisen between the affairsn .0.1
t`vay 0-7" country and thosep of the Great Western aiel.
ti4seeiretaeP4n3. Humbug. There was no analogy b
tyer h p cases not the least in the world. He had
ead he a railway share in his life—(Laughter)—
n, did
igq- Gr- not care a straw about the situation in which
de reereat Western Company had got itself, except. that
f
lie4r;
jetted the circumstance that the fair salaries o
eachengealid indefati sable servants had been cut down.
vseitylitze respected railway directors in their private ca-
Red hi had no hesitation in sayiug that when. they en-
,ewas tleld'Y respectable men t i transact their business
f
„."'e f j,"°, hard afterwards to cast them off because. o
17eie(1°Xu, reckless, and extravagant mariner in which
"„ea 8,,-;",,ernees had been conducted. A great deal had
et het-eie (.1 the reductions which had taken place, and
:tch De,;erks which had been removed; but what did
fje hiei,trY reductions amount to when the salaries of
`ilYs 'rest officers in the state—men who passed their
Nttit,ll idle
d LHess, and whose lamentable ignorance ince-
(t°otkadeuhelli for' business. were untouched ?
41-'" lag
gut ) II believed in his soul that the
ea 'et e.
",e'le ese ignorance of her Majesty's Ministers
Of the- greet that if it were not for the exertions
treytires go eserving. clerks the public business would
on (Laughter.) It was on the Treasury
pack
the
reform Was required. He saw no reasons
beach taalitries of the individuals who adorned that.
Ottf fe,:dauould not be reduced in proportion with the price
et." t; I,(Lalighter.) In former times a Chancellor
e‘settist, -c",equer could not stir abroad unless in a
etighi ~.arew.,
" by four horses, but now the
ill the°4°lloUrable Gentleman opposite might travel
110 ouw third class like any other passenger, and
respect
t° the ew°llkl be a, bit the wiser. Now, with ,
eipetri stistressed needlewomen, and the process of
tards.,s4eti4 that had been recently adopted in their Fe-
these
wse,aughtee)_he disapproved altogether of making
Iletity de° Marketable commodities for sale and barter.
Queer °: work might be found for them at home, at re-
-140 atiee prices, .
for .thie c but for the vile syst-m of importing
of the
tie litßneeee""ntry the cheap and nasty goods.him
to
a`tid his (Laughter)—and thus encouraging
mesee,el- Nohish ' to the damage of our
e 'lllg art and embroidery
otecd eaens. It was to the free-trade system that
'lad tee so Much of thepoverty which our countrymen
k • eette
Then,
!sip with were labouring under.—(Laughter.) .
1)t, aY ;e,. regard to the forthcoming nonsensical dis-
eee ter the ~ Exhibition
110 °°sider d • .
„ heti e it his duty to warn all persons with whom
gOtti. anted
haft near it—(Leughter)--
,4 me influence not to go ) He had
' tety 6v.Roed could come of it.—(Laughter.
Part a 'sited the place where he re,ided for the most
dilri'll-tt thee had told the people not to go to London
tic g
year 1 -
of 185, 8 al—(Laughter)—becaus . . _
booto e 'was a humbug, the only object of which would
lit e'-°°lla e•send his cheap and
leafy goo,. g,. the foreigner to t
levedef',4% here they were not evan.e
l.—(Laughter.)
htl'iles a ' niniselt of the opportunity to exht i b't is
eels PeadsetsPetedituts n
men of the foreigner's skill—sodhecanpter....
,ip.tigeave,
.eecnanter.—(Leughter.)
Yfeelhae imposition
al_ a.iepeite'e.o__,nter, and theN price
eo
lise4 In this co((Laughter.) asked, how was a
Now,
to eat roast
lle; "II drink entry, who was accustomed
14 stia, Strang ale, after the manner of a
ta:d on Ere° coMpete with those nasty foreigners who
I homanufac-
p_ed
.dce, erareed and sour krout, an(
Lowurl laughter.)
ciletitd.eelar'eclat sixpence a piecet?h—
(industrious me-
lt tP° and ine"..w” too bad that
who ewes unable to get
poll: cley,6 U latigable labourer,
t wages for a fair ay's work, aon
h Id be coin-
' the d 'l5 come' ' f idle fellows on
Ale 'prciur ibute to fattens he set e
He was sure that 1
*es red oe tieYos hewnoehid— ( Lau ghdte r.
) because self-interest
ketillibt bottom
and would prevent it. The Honourable
til4
er
for deserved the thanks of
tr, Nlittv fo .
ti °F3'lit e,,,' r the able manner in which he had
con-
e rare t 0 r,ward the subject. He hoped he would .
rsistan agitate dr
, and if so, he might depend upon. any
keel. ee, in the shape of shot at the enemy, which lie
hot e"lbthorn) i' e• a hies.—(Laughter.) He did
11 , euteev e
_ceui give ,
Pee 0, er, think that much impresscould be made
ion
Sue "e %tope hearts
Gentlemen oc the Tres-
y beoch. J.. of Hon.
Weectuilieure 41
dissolution of Government would be the
dthen they
e old See • Let there be a dissolution, an
'ever co' %%I'lo would come in and who would go out and
ail tee In an,ai_
de °oeset, 6 11.—(A laugh.) They might t . hen have
de en-
wilt HouseP ght, independent Ministry, and an in p .
ti free fret Commons, Cotntnons, for they had seen quite enough
teetuae oneee,.---(Laughter.) The Hon. and Gallant Gen-
that the Z;ilded, amid great merriment, by observing.
eateem:LtYo way to restore this country to her former
t Millen make her the envy and terror of surround -
oppre, ,s, and a refuge and asylum for all who might be
tee se" elsevsh •
eedeze__B . ere, was to stimulate the honest and unre-
tekr. N tvrt:!en of opinion on the part of Hon. Gentlemen.
state his tot't"EGATE stated that it had very seldom
leelea, 0 hear so lucid, comprehensive, and terse a
•aleelecr if' as that which had been made by the Hon.
%parcel' 9xfordshire. The contrast that it presented
IDposit()
W with the reply of the Right Hon. Gentleman
zlilite • as 4/1104marked, end he was certain had made an
upon the minds of Hon. Gentlemen.—.