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London, England, 1844-05-24 00:00:00

CUSTOMS' DUTIES BII.L.

Mr. GLADSTONE moved that the order of the day
for the third reading of the Customs' Duties Bill should
have precedence of the other orders. The Right Hon.
Gentleman was understosd to state that the clause in the
Bill to which there were objections made (the wharfin-
gers' clause) was withdrawn.
Mr. HUME was glad that the clause was withdrawn,
but"regretted that the Government should persevere in
a Bill that inflicted many new penalties.
On the question being put,
Mr. M. PHILIPS asked on what day the Dissenters'
Chapels' Bill would be brought on.
Sir It. PEEL fixed Thursday the 7th of June.
BANK CHARTER.
Mr. HUME asked what course the Government in-
tended to take on the Bank Charter Bill ?
Sir It PEEL said he proposed to bring in the Bill
to-morrow. There would be an opportunity for discus-
sion on the second reading.
The Customs' Duties Bill was read a third time and
passed.

- FRIARS (BANGOR) FREE SCHOOL.
Mr. W. 0. STANLEY rose, pursuant to notice, to
call the attention of the House to the petition of Dr. 0.
Roberts (presented on the 15th April), praying for in-
quiry into the management of the Friars' (Bangor) Free
School, and other endowed free schools in the diocese
of Bangor and St. Asaph, and to move for a Select
Committee to inquire into the same. The Hon. Gentle-
man said that this school had been endowed for the
especial purpose of educating poor men's children, and
that at the present time there was not one single poor
man's child in the school. The revenue of the school
had been considerably increased since the Charity
Commissioners had made their report. The revenues
of the school amounted to 5051. a-year. The master
in addition had a house in Bangor, to which
20 acres of land were attached, the value of which was
1301. a year. The usher had a house built for him
capable of accommodating twelve boarders ; a garden was
attached, and these premises were of the value of 45/. a
year. The value of the property ,of the charity was up-

wards of 600/. a year, and at the present moment 111.1
number of free scholars educated in that school dal,
not exceed nine. At the time he had given notice a
the motion they did not exceed six, and of those six one
was the son of the Vicar of Bangor, two others welre.
sons of wealthy gentlemen in the neighbourhood, and
the others were sons of wealthy tradesmen in Bangor
There were ten boys who ought to be upon the founds'
i
tion, but: who were educated solely in the national
schools. These boys received 21. 6s. annually from
the charity, and they were made by the Dean
and Chapter of Bangor choristers of the Cathe-
dral. This was a gross violation of trust. It "i
enactel that the master should exact nothing for
teaching the children, and yet all those who learned
writing or arithmetic paid 21. a-yeat more for
their instruction, and those who learned French, paid
21. for their instruction. The poor children of Bangor
received no benefit whatever from this charity.
The master of the-union at the time the Commissioeers.
made their report, received 661. per year, and
the usher 321.. a year, over and above the house
and land which they possessed. In 1839, the salary °_,
the master was raised to 1001. a year, and that of O 1
w
usher to 50/. At the moment the Dean and. ChaPt
were raising the salary of the usher of 'h,
school, he was the curate of a populous parish'
seventeen miles long, and containing 20,000 lumf
bitants. The usher let out his house to ledgf'''
The dean end chapter gave him leave'to absent hlt"1:
self from "his` 'duties ; and at the present moment be;
never entered the school, nor rendered any assistance'
To show the "reason :thy: the number of scholars ha,
fallen off, he would mention that the free scholars had
been treated with the, gteatest hardship. They 010,
excluded from the play-ground, and they had no plat led;
retire to in cold weather, but were seen huddle
under the door-ways like drowned rats. When they wete
guilty of certain faults they were placed in the cathedral
.
church of Bangor to do penance. The object was t" 6 d
prive the poor of the benefits derived from the school, B 2 t
that object was gained. It appeared from the returns that
the annual surplus of the funds ought to be 224/., bu'''n
fact, there was no surplus, and he called on the House hie
inquire into the state of those funds. He called on
sub
Right Hon. Baronet to give facilities to remedy stl;
abuses as he described here. The Hon. Gentleman °-
eluded by reading his motion.
Mr. HUME seconded the motion. ell
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Colonel PENNANT defended the manner in iv-„,,l
the school had been conducted, and the expenditure ''.•
fleeted with it. What the Hen.. Member had stated.„-_:d
garding the treatment of a boy, was, he had been Assr;e:;
in a letter from the Dean of Bangor, which he had
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ceived that day, much exaggerated. The 14 'et
been refractory, and was accordingly expelled, but Pas
without the concurrence of the Dean and Chapter.
would oppose the motion.
Sir GEORGE GREY rose for the purpose of Press.
ing upon the Right Hon. Gentleman the necessity of P.
pointing a tribunal for the investigation of such_,cafsin
Educational trusts should be administered in a dittn,
manner from what they were at present. He (Siri,st
Grey) was about to introduce a Bill on the subjeo4,„"tig
the Attorney-General had assured him, on a pro7te
occasion, that it was the intention of the Goverernein'nes
introduce a Bill on the subject. This, however, had "if •
been done, although the Attorney-General hirnse
admitted there were great abuses in the present sYsteo
,he
and that there were more than a million of pounds at '„;
disposal of those trustees. He hoped the Governnie'
would now give some positive assurance on the subjec's,
Mr. HUME likewise pressed ou the House the nqes.
sity of legislation in this matter. The Right 110
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Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Der no
went had himself admitted that there were innne-
funds connected with the educational trusts, a great por.
Lion of which were either misappropriated or not ail'
plied at all to the purpose for which they were intended
Sir J. GRAHAM said the matter which had been Ifts
troduced by the Hon. Gentleman, the mover, No'' et
had been rightly observed by the Right Hon. Bar°"for
opposite, the Member for Devonport, not a matter -a
investigation in this House. The question introdwucc,o
was really one for the decision of a court of equity. 1:5,
sessions ago he certainly had observed upon the o,,n:,se
sity of legislative interference in the disposal a t-ae,
trusts, and he was still most anxious to remedy the s
fects which existed. But all interference in these vasqf
must be limited by two things, first, by the intentioes:,
the original testator, and secondly, by judicial decisl°o
on the subject. Within these limits he was tnije
anxious that efficient legislation should take place• b..
had that day spoken to the Lord Chancellor on the
suessub,
ject, and he was happy to assure the House that it ,
the intention of that Noble and Learned Lord to intros
duce into the upper House of Parliament a Ine,69:jit
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going much further than the simple registration ahtli,st
to.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped after this declaration "'s
the Hon. Gentleman would not press his motion t 0
division.
ir'
After a few words from Mr. BERHELY Os'
RICHARDS, the motion was withdrawn. la &e.EXPENSES OF ORDERS OF THE GARTE,-. 0,(1
Mr. HUME then moved that an address be preset' 0
to her Majesty, that she will be graciously pleasednt
give directions that, whenever 'her Majesty shall g 7,
the honour of the peerage, or baronetcy, or knightlwis
or order, for eminent public services, no fee shall
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so
charged thereon. Two thousand pounds in ffeesmos
been paid last year, when honours were conferred
officers of the army and navy, and 5001. was Psa
when the Order of the Garter was bestow it
upon the King of Prussia. He did not noes
to question, in the slightest degree, the wishes
of the Sovereign, but these honours should be conferred c 0
'
that the public should not have to bear the exren'tis.
When honours were granted they ought not to be 03%8
burdensome to the individual. Ile recollected on dfr,
occasion that a gallant gentleman declared he had ro-/
ceived an honour one day, and .the next a bill of 13 a
was sent in to him, which hi e4itl be would not pay, le
the honours might be kept Teoni`.. 4',, e should 11,,
to know from the Chancellor of, WE - 'Nur a hethb‘,
the recommendations of the Co, 's ners on this stll,
„stirti
ject would be carried out. It was strial that the pee Pro
of England should be taxed for the honours done r,
others.(Hear, hear.) Ile had no objections that Pei)a
sons not having performed public service should
urs
taxed for the honours they received. But when hon°,ice
were conferred on persons engaged in the public see` a 1
no charge ought to be made. The Attorney-Geoeo,
got the principal share of the fees paid for these henna
to
but he thought the time was come for putting an en the
them. He thought it would be well to inquire int°, bl
system adopted in the Herald's-office, and the right
which they imposed these fees.
Mr. WILLIAMS seconded the motion. said
The CHANCELLOR of -the EXCHEQUER„, hi
that the fees paid to those public officers were Parter
law, and the Crown had no power to jihad
fore with their emoluments. The Crown ose
the prerogative of granting honours to 'lithe
whom it thought deserving of them, and will: ft's
civil list existed the Crown paid the expenses of lu the
attendant on granting those honours. But whe-n
tool‘
constitution of the civil list was altered, the nation ,is
on itself the payment 'of the expenses. He thought Ay
was an advantage, because it gave an additional wetia•
to the honour conferred 'when it received the APS fa
bation of Parliament... He was perfectly disinterest!. the
opposing the motion, because, of all the officers °b`uted
Crown the Chancellor -of the Exchequer contri. toll
more in the way of fees than any other. He had lo" Isle
to take out four patents, for which he had to pay' ot be
was far from saying that some change might, rj„soos
adopted in the present system. But for the legair,-.ter
he had stated, namely, that the Crown could not in
the
fere with the fees of those officers, he was sure th Gen.
House would not consent to the motion of the ll°. bins'
tleman, and he hoped the Hon. Gentleman would he
self disposed to withdraw it. they
Mr. WILLIAMS said the Right Hon. Gentletn: tael
shown no reason for those charges, except that he
were maintainable by Act of Parliament. "1 on
should like to know from the Right Hon. Gentnets ID's
what Act of Parliament warranted such paYme snag
201. to the Dean and Canons of Windsor for graoo/, to
the Order of the Garter to the King of Prussia; ~i-iriodt-
he Usher of the Black Rod; 11/. to the church of ' alto'
sor as an offering; and other charges, amounting
gether er
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
_mon
plained that it was not the statute law but the cow
law according to which those charges were mad' kaof
Mr. WILLIAMS said he should then like to .005.
what decisions of Judges there were on such que,sitim on
The Right Hon. Gentleman had not satisfied 0.„....--
this head, and he should therefore support the lonti'
The motion was then withdrawn,
Mr. CHRISTIE rose to bring forward his in
specting re'
d,
specting the management of the Universities, vi _.,,te
An Host.. MEMBER moved that the House beelioase
and there being only 35 Members present, the
adjourned a Quarter to Eight o'clock.____

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On the 22d inst., at Preston, in Lancashire, the
Cameron, Esq., of the Royal Engineers, of a son. nte
On the 23d inst., at Chester-street, the lady of Pe
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On the 21st inst., •at St.'Pancras, Thomas 1nni,,,,,g,Ti0
Fitzroy-square, to Caroline,. third daughter•of the late iv "
Horne, Esq., of Streatham. ' • •_) W.
On the 21st inst., at Barton Seagrove, Northatuptoen;oo
Smyth, Esq, of Little Houghton, to Lucy Charlotte, sew of
daughter of the Hon. and Rev. R. B. Stopford, nec
Barton Seagrove. of
to lOn the 21st inst., at Chiswick, Mr. Pope Roach, 1.,2111800,,
Wight, to Emily Edith, fourth daughter of Thoin
of
Esq., Gorden House, Turnharn-green.
On the 21st inst., at Banstead, Richard Ward, S_crtbs
Salhouse Hall, Norfolk, lk, to Elizabeth, third daughter 0
late Vice-Admiral Sir Edward J. Foote, I_i..C.l_2__

DIED.
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Church-row,Alsttoonn,
eHyanatg..9,edJBBam. es Hawkins, X-'''
formerly Esq'
On the 21st inst., at Cheshunt, Herts, Joseph Betio,. eji,
On the 21st inst., at Park-street, Islington, F,lizaac'
eldest daughter of Mr. R. G. Steel.
On the 21st inst., in Old Kent-road, 0
late W. Hedgman, Esq. f betb'
On the 21st inst., Mrs. Fossett, of Walcot• place, ',ail. W.
On the 21st inst., Margaret, the second daughter o
Thomas Storey, of King William-street, City. e rd.
On the 22d inst., at New Millman-street, John Fuh°,_ De-
On the 18th inst., Mary, the widow of the late Charm.
St. Leu, Esq., of Shalford, near Guildford, Surrey. to
On the 18th inst., at Forest-gate, West 1-lain, 1.1191
wife of S. Adams, Esq. • ere#l'
On the 19th inst.. at Brighton, Mr. Thomas Littl
Sarah, relict of th
of Wells-street, Oxford-street. . - list-
On the 20th inst., at Windsor,Susannah rt-lit.'t °II "
tiscombe, Esq.
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