The Sun.
London, England, 1850-06-05 00:00:00

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Liverpool Corporation Waterworks (Extension
of Time for Purchase of Land, Fie.) Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The Edinburgh Slaughter Houses Removal Bill as
amended was agreed
PETITIONS.

Mr. FREWEN presented a petition in favour of 32ctl
a.r education. _ _ _

Mr. YORKE presented a petition from the Isle of
Ely, signed by 1,000 persons engaged in agricultural
pursuits, complaining of the depressed state of agricul-
ture, dnd praying for relief.
Mr. WYLD presented a petition from Bermondsey
against the Metropolitan Internients Bill.
Mr. MONCKTON MILNES presented a petition
from Wakefield in favour of the enfranchisement of
copyhold tenements ; also, a petition praying for a re
peal of the react-tax.
Mr. BAKES presented a petition from clergymen in
Dorset against the admission of Jews into Parliament.
Mr. FORSTER presented a petition in favour of the
appointment of Government auditors for savings' banks.
Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition from Man-
chester preying that an address might be presented to
her Zilojefty for the purpose of obtairdtsg more correct
returns of the statistics of education in the differet.t
cot to ties of the kingdom.
SUPERANNUATION FUND FOR POOR-LAW

IVIADNESD AY EVENING, JUNE

principle were true, there was no reason why
they should net extend it to the agricultural district.
If there was such a superfluity of education in different
parts of the country, it could not be supposed that the
ratepayers would come together and lay a rate upon
themselves to establish schools which were totally un-
necessary. He was ready to admit that much valuable
and disinterested aid to educatiOn had been rendered by
Churchmen as well as Dissenters, and he thought
it wtis useless and beside the question to enter into
a controversy as to who was first in the field in the
cause of education.—(Hear, he=ar.) Ti=e Bill was ob-
jected to because it made no provision for religious in-
structi r, but it did not render that instruction less than
at present, and it should be remembered that this coml•
try spent twice as much as any other in the
world to promote - the religicus ecluetition e f
the people. According to the present system
religious instruction was given et a separate
and distinct period from secular education, and he ears
no reason why the two should ba pursued at different
times. What he wanted was, that the poor should have
within their reach a bona fide system of secular educa-
tion, such as the middle classes now had; and if they
had, he believed that, instead of doing away with
religious teaching and moral traning, they would be
pieced at least in a much better situation than at
present, when there was neither religious nor secular
education.—(Hear.) He could not understand the prin-
ciple that because they could net teach everything
they should torch nothing. If the people had
secular education, no doubt the zeal of the Church
arid of miuiste ra of different denomieations would
take care of their religious instruction. He
never heard it was the duty ( f the Church to give
secular instruction. It might be the duty of the Chinch
to teach revealed religion, hut he denied that it was her
province to give secular instruction. If it were her duty
to give secular instruction, what a lamentable reproach
it was to her that so many hundreds of adult persons ap-
peared at her altar who could neither read nor write.

Mr. NA PIER had endeavoured 0 understand the
principle of this Bill, which was, as he understood it,
that it was the duty of the State to provide an education
itw hwicehald bcompelledeha rd thehardly
said
i(l that exclusion
it
voifa
as
a
religion
religious
obligation
to exclude religion.—(Hear, hear.) It was enough,
ll He thought
he thought, to state the proposition to ensure its
refutation. He would contend that a man was no
more excused in starving his soul than his mind.—
(Hear, hear.) lie would aver, whatever difference s
might exist, that it had been the religious duty of the
State is provide religion to the people. This Bill em-
bodied a principle antagonistic to the principle on which
we had hitherto acted in this country, seeing that we
lied made religion the basis of the education of our
people. Ile me:ceded we could not serve two masters;
we might choose between them, but we could not
servo tl cm both at the same time ; and we
were called upon to choose between a mere secular
education end an education base l upon religion. He
wanted to extend the blessings of education, but it was
thatimpossible
they) tab, a cacl evdaey tso
athcietnßo
ebde ierde the
that
House,Christianity se
shoteld be the basis of education, and that the Bill made
Christianity only to be taught casually nod not neces-
sarily. He asked who were the parties who called upon
the House to pasts We measure? Only a small
section of the community, who held somewhat lax
reaiens ie:pecting education. He contended that
with respect to education the State stood in
the redetion of loco parentii to the child of parents who
were unable to provide him with a suitable education.
The authority of a parent was derived from God. and
that authority was not e power but a trust. Instead ci
making religion the necessary basis cf education, this
Bill made it a mere castial consideration. Ile contended
that the Bible would not necessarily be taught in the
schools under this Bill. The great glory of the
Reformation was that it opened the Word
ef God to every man, and it ha 1 made this country
great, happy, nod free.—(llear, hear.) He submitted
that it education was important with regard to the train-
ing of the whole man in his public duties and relations,
and in the moral principles of private life, the merely
extending the intellect, without giving it any principle
to purify the affections and the heart, would go a
very short way indeed to accomplish those ends.
A distinguished man had said that the strength of the
country was in the depth and purity of this religious
feeling, and should they by such a Bill as this be called
upon to lower that standard? He would conclude his
remarks by hoping that the result of the division would
be to establish still stronger in this country religion and
piety.
Mr. FOX rose to reply. He said that throughout the
whole of this debate he had heard nothing which
touched upon the precise effects which he hoped to ac-
complish by his Bill. He had been incited to bring lee-
ward this measure by the acknowledged and demon-
strated necessity that something should be done in this
direction. He had no wish to demolish existing systems
in order to reconstruct; but the cause of the great de-
ficiency he bad certainly assigned to the spirit of
religious proselytism which had been too much mixed
up with education. There was no want of proofs of the
alarming deficiency in education. But one of the most
alarming features in these proofs was that for the lastdozen
years, which were years of magnificent exertion in the
cause of education, if they looked at the records of clime
they would find that the number of criminals who had
received what indeed was called education, had increased
to an alarming extent. What was the position of those
great societies to whom the cause of education had been
cerrenitted? All at war with ea eh other—the main-
springs of action in themselves broken by dissension.
It had been assumed that if religion were not made a
Fait of school teaching they were warranted in
saying that religion was totally excluded. He denied
that assumption altogether. Ile thought it was an im.
pious assumption, that man could be led away from re-
-I;gion by a secular education. In such a country us this,
weere religion was so closely interwoven with all the
feelings of the people, such a result was impossible. It
religion was to be a part and parcel of education,
of course it must be the true religion, and who was
to decide what. was the true religion ? Was
it a majority of that House, or of the country ?
Had they learnt their own religion so badly as
to have forgotten to respect liberty of conscience ?
Under the existing system the salaries paid to school-
masters were beggarly in the extreme. This was proved
in some measure by the advertisements that are con-
stantly appearing in the daily prints, where it
was not urfrequently announced that schoolmas-
ters and their wives were required for different
parishes at salaries varying from 401. to 50/
per annum —(Hear, hear) Why, in'Americe, a young
woman who had charge of an infant school received
70/. a year.—(Hear, hear.) Nor was the poverty of the
salary all. The schoolmaster was often degraded and
insulted by the manner in which the salary was paid.
It nut unfrequently happened that the school-
master had to collect his own , remuneration
from the subscribers to his school, while, by an order
which had recently been issued by the National Society,
he could be dismissed from his situation at a weelea no..
t co.—(llear, hear.) No wonder, then, that men of energy
and talent treated the office of schoolmaster wilh con-
tempt, and lola their schools in disgust whenever they
tltti r)lebgi eas regard dpaoal tarroraoi
ttucehsr
had an opportunity of bettering their condition, or tind•
nti
assured.wa—r co
dl(ui would aahberd,es:
House that the danger was
education,
dle gua
cra)t dangerouso more`nv,
a number of authorities in support of his opinion.
He apprehended the separation of secular front religious
instruction was is every way necessary in order to pro-
duce the whole amount of benefit., lie wanted to see au
education which would not send children into the world
unacquainted with the simplest objects, unacquainted
with the number of ounces in a pound, with -the number
of feet in a furlong, with the names of the month, unac-
quainted even with the name of the reigning
sovereign, ignorant of the very elements of industry and
art, without anything to guard them from becoming the
prey of the demagogue or the fanatic, and ignorant of
everything which affected the rise and fall a wages,
and of what legislation could do or could not do in con-
nexion with their interests.—(Hear, hear.) The feeling
of 'the working classes on this subject was strong. He
knew that the genuineness of the report he had read to
the House from a society of working men on
a formier occasion had been questioned, but no reason
had been given to impugn its genuineness. That report
came from working men, and had not those working
men spoken out on the subject at larger and more inte
resting meetings that had been held since the more
stirring political agitations had taken place. Again, he
would call on the House to look at what those men were
doing for the education of themselves and the sacrifices
they made, • and at the schools which had been insti-
tuted at their instance in this metropolis. To
those schools the working people paid and were
content to pay. What was the fact as to the Prus-
sian schools? There was no absence of religion
there, and religion was intermingled with the teaching.
If there was an absence of religion, there was the
presence of a larger amount of secular instruction.
The Hon. Member proceeded,. amidst much impatience,
and cries of " Oh," to advert to the system of education
in the United States, which he said had been the means
of diminishing crime to a very great extent. He did not
mean to say that education would entirely counteract the
fearful amount of ignorance, vice, crime, and misery
watch ex; eel in this country, but education was an
essOtial indition' and would greatly tend to diminish
those a ":". With it they would give the Sovereign the
fairest chance of having an enlightened people, augment
the glory of the nation, and give to the great masses
that instruction p,hiois Brit humanised them and then
Christianised thins.
Mr. HUME rose tq support the motion, but having
spoken at the former debate he was called to order by
the Speaker.
Mr. MUNTZ said, as he had been brought up in the
faith of the Cnurch of tigland, he should have no
ob-
jection to that Church 00114.,0g the education of the
people, if he thought she cqt) sibly do so, but having
many years' acquaintance f ,—the working classes,
he considered that a syste-,. of education on such
a plan would not be at all feasible. The
working classes were decidedly opposed to the
Church having the control , or superintendence of
their education. The question was, whether it would
be best to let the children of the poorer classes go alto-
gether without instruction, or wiotber they should have
the advantage of a systeea of secular education,
such as that proposed by the Hon. Member.
He had employed a great number of men during
his lifetime, and without fear of contradiction he would
say that there was no comparison between the properly
educated and those who were not edueetvd—the former
were open to reason and much More easily managed.
While he did not agree with some lion. Members that
my m isee wetted top to crone.
4:1,( t ;:I,,fe of e‘eiiic;3ti...ii
n,c43.5,,,re1,.-aii I whether the present Dill was passed or
aot, he hoped the Government would tike the subject
into their serious consideration, with the view of giving
the people every opportunity of improving themselves.

5, 1850.-

The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the second reading ... 58
k;ainEt it ... 287
Mtjority ... ... ... —229
The all was accordingly thrown out.
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES BILL.

Sir J. DUCKWORTH moved that this Bill be corn-
miVed pro forma, for the purpoLe of introducing certain
sawnclment-'.

Sir G. PECHELL objected to their going into Com-
mine at all at that late hour.
Mr. IiUME said the measure was one of national im-
portance, and he should therefore be glad to know if
Government intend( d to support or oppose it.
Sir G. GREY said so fdr as the general object of the
Bill went he perfectly concurred with it, but there were
clauses in it that were highly objectionable ; and it
would, therefore, be his duty to move amendments
when they got Into Committee.—(Hear, hear.) The
simple object of the Bill was to repeal an old statute,
and to make more effectual provisions for ascertaining
the accuracy of weight; and measures.—(Hear, bear.)
The Bill then went through Committee pro forma, and
the House having resumed, the Bill was ordered to be
printed;
THE COPYHOLDS ENFRANCHISEMENT BILL.
At the iustaLce of Mr. AGLIONBY, the second
reading of this Bill was postponed until Friday night.
,The remaining orders of the day were disposed of,
and the House adjourned at &x o'clock.

NEWTON RACES.

(THIS DAY.)"

The Golborne Stakes.
Sister to Wanola
Black DJctor
The Gold Cup.

Duxbury ... ... ...
Cla4mpion ... ...
Lady Ilylcia ... ... . •

ETON COLLEGE.

Yesterday, the 4th cf June, was celebrated at Eton
with more, than customary gaiety and splendour.
Throughout the day the nobility and gentry, chic fly old
Etonaris, with their families, were continually arriving
from all parts of the kingdom, in oreer to be present at
this time-honoured festival.

At the accustomed time—shortly before seven o'clock
—the regatta boats, being manned by their respective
crews, dress° 1 in elegant and appropria• e costume, started
from the Brocas for Surley Hall in the following order:—
Monarch, 10 oar—Rohertson (captain of the boLts);
Niud, Molesworth, Herbert, Coltman, Graham, Miles,
Harford, Peyton, Welbr. Nevill, steerer.
Victory—BlundeP, Powys, Harrison, Malcolm, Swan,
Praed, Pemberton, Gore Booth. Lambton, mi., stcerer.
Prince of Wales—Marshall (captain); Johnstone,
Thompson, Snow, Watson, Warre, Barton, Arbizthnet.
Fremantle, steerer.

Britaania—Fiennes (captain of lower boats); Far-
quharson, Irvine, Mytton, Fletcher, Legge, Giles, Trc-
I usis. Byng,steerer.

Dreadriotight—Meade Piing (captain); Johnson, Clive,
Piodey, me., ntrobus, Peach, Barton, Sheffield.
Thompsen, Streret..
T (eriptain); Egerton, Prodgett Harding,
Sparke, Lonsda!e, Nugent, Hennes. G vvynne Hulrotd,
steerer.

S. George--.-. Clayton (captain) ; Pilcher, Viviafl,
Tyssen; I'yndht4n;',Mynors, Chapman, Todd. Arbuth-
no►, s;eercr: •

A fter doing ample justice to a sumptuous repaqt,which
was Fpread out on- tables by the banks of the Thames,
and drinking the accustomed loyal and also several
standard college toasts, the Etonians again manned their
boats a®d returned to Windsor.

At nine o'clock a grand disp'ay of fireworks was dis-
charged from the Eyot, whilst the crews exhibited their
ada irable dexterity in rowing before the numerous
spectators who crowded the wharfs and every available

The Rev. Dr. liawtrey, bead master cf the college,
gave a grand banquet in the Upper School to upwards
of 230 of the nobility and gentry.
The Rev. Dr. Okes, Rev. E. Coleridge, Rev. Lux-
more, Rev. J. G. Cookesley, and other members of the
college, alto entertained large and distinguished parties
at their respective residences in the colic ;e.

STATE OF TRADE-
(From the Manchester Gum dian of this day.)
MA: CUESTER, TUESDAY.—Thelerge aggregate amount
of last week's business in 'yarns, nod the remarkable
lightness of the stocks anywhere to be found, have
given extreme 'firmness to the market, at the advanced
rates cf Saturday, and, in some articles, a tendency to
rise even a little higher. The- prices that have been paid
to day for most eescriptions may be broadly stated at
to id. above those of Tuesday last. The purchases
have, in consequence. been of smaller extent than
they were thee, both the merchants and the home con-
sumers naturally showing some hesitation about com-
plying' with the requirements of -the spinners, who,
however, are more indifferent as tie orders than as
to pricee. In goods the transactions have been limited,
es cienpared with those of this day week, by the
prices upon which manufacturers rake their stand
with entire firmness; holding, as they do, but little
stock in the duller fabrics, and none at all in those for
which there is a demand. It remains to be seen what
effect the commercial accounts from India will have
upon our market; the merchants not having yet had
tune to consider them. We conceive that they are, on
the whole, pretty much what they were expected to be,
and therefore are net likely, in any material degree, to
influence the general state of thine's, one way or other.
At Bombay there was an improved demand for the finer
quititiee of grey fabrics, the stocks of which appear to he
greatly reduced. In other staples, however, particularly
40-inch shirtings below a 56 reed, the stocks were in ex-
cess, having he ea much increase I by very re-
cent arrivals. The market was in a favourable
state. for mule yarns of all counts except 20's.
Of 20's water the accumulations were rather large,
but somewhat reduced in No. 30's, while 40's were
scarce in request. At Calcutta the operations in piece
goods had been on an unusually limited scale, arid
prices betrayed an inclination to give way. The value
of 40-inch shirtings appears, however, to have been
fairly maintained. In yarns prices had been on the
whole well supported, and the market seemed healthy,
although sales had fallen off. The advices from
the United States do not appear to have exercised any
sensible influence upon our Exchange. The reports of
extensive injury done to the growing crop of cotton
by cold weather in some districts, and by inundations
in others, are still received with caution, as more or less
exaggerated ; whilst against them ate placed the known
fact that a considarabiy increased extent of land is ap-
propriated to this plant. But there continues to be the
same general expectation, as before, that prices will re-
main high for some weeks at least. There is nothing
here, therefore, ti weaken the general confidence in the
prices of yarns and goods.
ROCHDALE, MONDAY,--Thero has been a fair average
market to-day in flannels, and prices have been much the
same as last week's. In the wool market there is no
change to report, either in price or demand.
MACCLESFIELD, .TUESDAY.—We have to report a ra-
ther improved business doing in manufactured goods,
several nuyers having lately paid us a visit, and al-
though they have purchased sparingly, it is certain
that much more would kayo found sale, had the manu-
facturers be en able to accept tae prices offered ; but
owing to the raw silk market having assumed a decideely
firmer tone, with advances on some descriptions, amongst
which we may mention Italians and first class Chinas,
this could not consistently be done. In throwns a better
feeling exists, with more business doing.
HUDDERSFIELD, TUESDAY. —We have this week to
report a flatter market than last, both ,in the hail and
warehouses. It is generally expected at this time of the
year in consequence of its being between the seasons.
In about a mouth the manufacturers expect to be brisk
again for the winter markets. The wool market is de-
pressed. The weather continues fine and propitious for
the season.

HALIFAX, SATURDAY.—AIthough there was not a very
large amount of business done in the Piece-hull tc-day.
yet ,here is a good steady trade, chiefly in fancygoods,
carried on to order in the warehouse?, both for the home
and the foreign markets, and the quotations continue
Arm. The demand for yarn is .unniminished, and the
rates IN main without alteration.. There is a little more
inquiry for long wool, with an increasing confidence that
prices will not i ecede. Short wool is also in better de-
mand, and the spinners are asking a small advance.