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London, England, 1850-07-24 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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The 23.
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oftir RUGISCL HOUSE, O
the inhabit ants of the north ridingP of prevented a petition from
Tip-
perary, complaining of agricultural the county
ral distress and the
present poor-law system.
They complained
were completely driven out or thec plained that they
English market in
consequence of the large importations
particularly Ft ench, ft var. There was also an immense
of foreign, and
quantity of foreign bacon and pork
greatly interfered with the sale
theirnow imported which
produce. The
alterations in the tariff had also
admittedd hides and a
an
variety of other articles duty free, thereby lessened
their means of paying rent, culti,a3 •ug
their land, or
giving employment to the labourers.
POPULATION BILL.
On the motion fur the third reading 0 f
(he Population
Bill.
the Earl of MALMESBURY begged to offer
sug-
gestion to the S,2crc otr e D
tary of State for the U a epart-
tne::t relative to the returns, which it appeared to him
Acre susceptible of great improvement. lie wanted to
have the form altered so as to define more clearly the
persons engaged in agriculture, commerce, trade, and
rnaaufactares, and those dependent upon these several
branches of industry. Some small towns which were
entirely depea:tent upon agriculture were in the popu-
lation returns of 1841 set down as manufacturing.
Atter a few words from Earl GRANvILLE, Lord
MONTEAGLE, and the Earl of ELLENBOROITG
Lord STANLEY said the object of his Noble Friend's
suggestion, in which he quite concurred, was to show
what had not been done in the former returns, those
who were dependent upon manufactures and those who
were dependent upon agriculture. In the small rural
towns it was well known that 1,11 the tradesmen and
artizans were dependent upon the agricultural classe;,
;aid could nut be fairly set down among the manufac-
turers.
Earl GREY doubted whether any improvement could
be made in the forms adopted on the last occasion.
The Earl et MALMESBURY did riot want to throw
in these dealers and traders among the agriculturists;
what be wanted was, to prevent their being thrown into
that body called muntVacturers, and thus unfairly swell
their numbers; they belonged as little to the one class
as to the other, but they ought to be clearly described in
the returns.
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
The Linen, &c., Manufactures (Ireland) Bill was read
a third time and passed.
The Population (Ireland) Bill was read a third time
and passed.
MILITIA BALLOTS SUSPENSION BILL.

On the motion that this Bill be read a third time,
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGII said it waa now the
20th or 21st time that a similar Bill had bet n passed,
end it was time that the ballot should he altogether
abolished, as tending ton,,:rds the maintenance :of a
system unsuited to the altered state of warfare. This
country had not improved as compared with other
countriecountries
in a ruiliiary point of view; and if the new
principles of foreign policy recently promulgated were
to be acted upon, it behoved them to to prepared for the
contingency of hostilities. The principles themselves,
as enunciated were certainly trite and commonplace
enouzli, hut the Classical allusion the Roman citizen,
whore the British citizen hereafter was to resemble,
showed that something more WaA meant. Undoubtedly
it woukibe very agreeable for Englishmen to stalk over
the contin, nt'as though they were some superior beings,
and affect to be releas,ql from all obligations of obei:innce
to the laws of the country in which they might happen to
be, and rely on the prot‘etion of the strong arm of this

country. But their Lordship must recollect that if the II
British citizen was to eijoy the immunities of the Roman
citizen, he must be content to take them on the same
conditions, nod an army must bo maintained to
preserve these immunities. But nothing could be more
absurd than to institute a comparison between the two
nations. The Government of Borne was essentials
military, with arms its chief study, war its prime object,
and conquest its desire. The desire of this country was,
not to make war, but to m .ke money.—(dear, hear, and
a laugh.) But it would be most irrational to suppose,
end might lead to great calamities if they indulged it
he delusion that British subjects would be respected as
Roman citizens were respected if they did not provide
the same means of protecting them. But it had been
said we must not suppose, when angry words were used,
that blows were always to follow. That might be true
when rations were of equal strength, but where one state
insisted. on remairiog like this country in a state of per-
severing weakness, determined to take no means what-
ever for its protection, resolved to be defenceless, it was
not for us to incur the anger of armed states desirous of
war, and anxious to wreak on us the vengeance which
they had treasured for ages. It was very w,ll to talk
of sympathy with Governments co-operating with
their subjects in the advancement of conetitutiona!
principles; but if they waited for this concur-
rence in the pursuit of freedom—if they waited fir
the concurrence of the King of Naples with the
people of Sicily, or the Emperor of Austria with the
Milanese or the Venetian States, he did not think they
would at a very early period be called on for the exhi-
bition of their sympathy. This word sympathy was of
a somewhat questionable and dangerous character, for, if
he mistook not, the United States' borderers who in-
vaded the territory of Canada' not long ago assumed the
peaceful name of sympathisers. If they were prepared
to persevere in having a very small peace establishment,
in keeping our coasts perfectly defenceless, it was abso-
lutely necessary to make our language abroad conform
to our weakness at home. It might be very well far us
to do as we hail done if we had 40 sail of the line,
100,000 soldiers at our disposal, and 10,000,0001. iu our
Treasury. But with no larger fleet than that possessed
by France, and with no more disposable ships than
would equal one-third of the force which Russia in a
few weeks might bring full of troops to the mouth of
the Thames. with not a corporal's guard disposable, and
not a single spare florin in the Treasury, it would be a
sheer absurdity to indulge in such aspirations. He
therefore hoped that our Government, under these cir-
cumstances, would at least abstain from giving offence
to nations with arms in their hands, and who were both
ready and desirous to use them to our disadvantage.
Earl GREY said the Noble Earl had begun by stating
that the time had come for abolishing the militia
bal:ot altogether iastead of continuing to suspend it, and
then proceeded to state that this country was in a state
of great weakness as compared with other nations. On
neither ef these points could he agree with the Noble
Earl. With regard to the first, he thought it -most de-
sirable to keep such a power in reserve. With respect
to the second point, he believed the position of this coun-
try to have changed, not for the worse but for the bet-
ter, in respect to its preparations for any sudden out-
break of war. In the first place, very large sums had
been expended within the last twelve or fifteen years in
various works of strength in our principal arseuals, and
in the formation of harbours of refuge on points of ex-
treme importance, with reference not only to commerce,
but to hostile operations. Again, a new force had been
created within a few years past by enrolling the pen-
sioners, to the amount of 15,000 he believed, who, al-
though not E qual to soldiers in the vigour of their age
for field operations, would always he cf great use in
garrison and in the defence of our coasts. A very great
change had also been produced of late years by the in-
crease of the artillery, a force which could not be sud-
denly created to meet an emergency. Though a consi-
derable reduction had been made in the army in the
present year, it did not apply to the artillery, which was
upwards of 2,000 men stronger than it was three or four
years since. But, said the Noble Earl, look at the force.
kept on foot by other countries. Now there was no
more fallacious mode of estimating the real strength
of a country than looking at the mere amount of
force kept on foot. If they wished to estimate the real,
though dormant power of this country, which the spirit
of our people would render very speedily available if this
country were ever iovolvi d in serious danger, they must
take a diffeient view of the matter, and above all they
must look to the state of the finances. His firm convic-
tion wee, that instead ef being less powerful than those
foreign countries which the Noble Earl had adverted to,
or loss powerful than they were at a firmer period, when
they looked at the state or their finances, and regarded
the progress of wealth and industry in this country, they
would find that in real and substantial power this coun-
try was advancing far more rapidly than those rivals
with whom the Noble Earl had compared it. He was
certainly not a little surprised to hear the Noble Earl
talk of there not being a single florin in the Treasury,
after having seen in the Gazelle that at the quarterly
meeting of the Commissioners, notwithstanding the great
reduction in taxation which had taken place. there was
a considerable surplus applicable to the reduction of the
national debt. He believed there was no country in the
world where,if it should become necessary to make a great
effort, you could at a moment be so certain of obtaining
any amount of money you might choose to call for.
That he held to he the greatest element of our power.
But the Noble Earl also surprised him by urging the
necessity of maintaining a very large force on the ground
of a change which he alleged to hr.ve t sken place in the
foreign policy of this country. He knew of no such
change, nor had any such taken place in the foreign
policy of the nation. The Noble E srl had commented
on the reference made to Renee, and said it implied that
we were to aspire to universal comfiest. Re did not so
understand the allusion. The inviolability of the Ru-
men citizen was maintained by Rome when she was an
inconsiderable Italian state, and such had also been the
policy of this country at least from the time of Crom-
well, and he earnestly hoped, notwohstending what the
Noble Earl was pleased to consider the weakness of this
country, that it would be always strong enough to
maintain that policy, and that an Englishman, in what-
ever part of the world he might happen to be, might
always find himself protected by the shield of British
power. As to the observations made by the Noble
Lord with reference to our sympathy with nations
struggling for freedom, he must remind him that al-
most from the earliest period of her history this
country had always shown an interest in the efforts
made by foreign nations in the cause of constitutional
liberty, and when the Noble Earl illustfated his argu-
ment by a reference to the American sympathisers, he
begged to tell him that it was not because the word was
used to cover atrocious designs that sympithy was to be
discouraged and reprobated. It was his firm belief that
though great reductions had undoubtedly been made in
her forces, no nation could attack the honour of this
country with impunity.—(Hear.)
After a few words from the Earl of GLENGALL,
The Bill was read a third time and passed.
STOCK IN TRADE BILL.

Earl GRANVILLE moved the second tetvling of this
Bill.

Lard STANLEY asked whether the Government
would be prepared next session to bring forward any
measure to remedy the gross inequality and anomaly oc-
casioned by the exemptions involved in this Rill?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the Government
would be prepared to listen to any plan which would
have the effect of making a more equitable adjustment of
the burden of taxation.
THE ALIEN ACT.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that in reply to
a question which had been put t him the other evening
by a Noble Lord opposite (Lord Stanley), he wished to
state, that in the condition in which this country was at
present happily placed, her Majesty's Ministers did not
think there was any ground for their proposing a re-
newal of the Alien Act which was about to expire. The
measure had only been introduced as a temporary one,
and he believed it might at present be safely dispensed
with.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 23.

IRISH POOR-LAW.

(Continued from our Third Edition of last night.)
Mr. F. FRENCH said the Hon. Member for Stroud
proceeded on the principle that the proposition of the
Hon. Member (Colonel Dunne) was to put a stop to out-
door relief, which would make the Irisu poor-law worse
than it was at present. He was surpri•ed to hear the
Hon. Gentleman the Member for Stroud advocating the
right of tne nominees of the Crown to tax the people
of Ireland.—(Hear, hear ) The very idea of such a
doctrine, if applied to this country, would be scouted
from one end of the land t) the other ; and he, there-
fore, hoped it would not be t,lerated, when it was pro-
posed to continue it in the sister kingdom. The im-
provement which he wished to introduce into the present
law was some test against deception and hypocrisy, and
that was all he asked for,
Major BLACK ALL thought all the improvements
which had been suggested could be accomplished by
the board of guardians under the existing law
without the intervention of the Legislature, and he
therefore hoped the House would not be induced
to adopt this Bill. Still, if it would afford any satis-
faction to the Honourable and Gallant Member who
proposed it, he should have no objection to its
being introduced for the purpose of being considered
during the reces4.
Sir G. GREY would not stand in the way of its intro-
duction, but ho begged it to be distinctly understood that
Government in no degree. sanctioned the principles
laid down by the Honourable and Gallant Gentleman
who had proposed the Bill. Fur instance, Government
altogether differed with him in supposing that out-door
relief could be abolished, nor could he sanction any ex-
tensive scheme of employing the poor upon public works.
He believed the law to be a very valuable one, and he
should be sorry to ses any course adopted out of doors
that would prevent its full operation.
Mr. STAFFORD supported the introduction of the
Bill, and denied that Members on that side of the House
were opponents of out-door relief. There could be now
no doubt of the failure in a great degree of the potato crops
in Ireland,and he thought it theduty of the Government to
adopt some course to avert, if possible, the fatal cala-
mity which would otherwise fall upon Ireland.
Sir 11. W. BARRON said the Irish poor law was the
greatest grievance of Ireland, inasmuch as it was pau-
perishg the whole country, particularly those who had
any thing to lose. This arid the effect of free trade were
ruining the people.—(Lear, hear.) Ireland was and ever
would be the difficulty of England until Ireland was go-
verned by a majority of Irish Members. At present
the Irish Members were swamped upon purely Irish
qut salons by English and Scotch Members voting at the
beck of the Minister. It was that which lost America
to England. As far as he undi-rstood the Bill, for he
had not seen it—(Laughter)—he entirely agreed with
his Hon. Friend that outdoor relief in Ireland was
wholly impracticable, and therefore he support, d the
motion. The English people complained of a paltry 7d.
in the pound income-tax, and then they appeared asto-
nished that the Irish people should complain of 25., Bso

and even 10s. in the pound poor elaw taxation. The
English complained of the poor-law as oppressive. He
denied that they had any right to complain of the poor-
law. The Irish people were the only people who hat a
right to complain of the poor-law. The Englishman's
property had been acquired and purchased with the
ourden of the poor-law tax on it. The Irishman
had scquired his property without any such tax,
end it was, t`nerefore, monstrous to impose it on
Irishmen. The peer-law was a new tax on house
end landed property in Ireland. Why ghoul I those
pecies of property be only subject to the poor law tax,
and all other descriptions of property exempted? It was
a monster grievance, this poor-law, and the Government
should have no peace until they redressed this, and all
other of the monster grievances of Ireland. Ireland
would be the great difficulty of Government so long as
Government refused to look into these questions, and
neglected to legislate for them. As long as be had breath
in his body—(Laughter)—he would not cease to press
on Government the necessity of remedying these great
evils. At that late priori a the session he felt he should
have neglected his duty had he not told the House and
the country that Government had, this session, done
nothing for Ireland.
Mr. S. CR LISN'FORD was willing to place out-door
relief under such restr ;int as would mitigete that amount
of evil which he believed must flow from establishing
that principle without limitation. The Hon. Member
for Portarlington had said that Irish gentlemen acquired
their property and purchased their estates without being
subject to a poor-law. That was oue of the grievances
of Ireland. It was a slerme that no provision had been
made by la.idlords well lately for the people of Ireland.
Much of the evil under which Ireland laboured was re-
ferable to the land. Tee towns were overburdened by
the poor Fpulation being driven from the country into
the towns. This ought not to have been permitted,
and would not have occurred under a more judi-
cious system. With respect to poor-law relief. he was
of opinion that everybody who had relief ought, as far
as possible, to work for that relief. Then, with re-
spect to state-paid officers, ho was favourable to that
system; but it was a system that ought not to be pursued
longer than it could be avoided. The Hon. Member for
‘Veterford complained of the starving pour in Ireland; but
what would have been the fate of the poor had not th it
great deceased stateman made such commercial changes
as enabled them to bring food into the country at tne
cheapest possible rate? Understanding that the Birl
would not absolutely forbid out dour relief, ho should
support the motion for its introduction.
Colonel DUNNE did not wish absolutely to prohibit
out-door relief. All he wished was that it should be
given by other means than were adopted under the pre-
sent poor-law. Allusion had been mede to free trade.
He denied that free trade existed in Ireland.

Colonel CHATTERTON said oat-door relief might
be entirely abolished in tho Cork Uidon, but several of
the pour-law guardians were desirous of forcing out-door
relief on that union.

Sir W. SOMERVILLE wished to have proof of that.
Leave was then given to bring in ti,e Bill.
TENANT-FAR MERS.

Colonel SIBTHORP ruse to bring forward the mo-
tion of which he had given notice, relative to relieving
the tenant-farmers from the operation of the income-tax.
He wished some abler Member, and one more competent
to enter into the details et the question, had brought
forward this motion. The tenants were suffering from
free trade, and they were less able than almost any other
class to bear the losses to which they were exposed by
the operation of the new system of commercial policy.
He wished the Right Hon. Gentleman 'the Chancellor of
the Exchequer would relieve him from the necessity of
bringing forward this motion from his own sense of what
was due to the tenant-farmers and justice, by acceding
at once to his proposition, and thus relieve him and his
Hon. Friends who attended in that House from a tire-
some speech, and an unsatisfactory speech on the part of
himself, because of the weak efforts he was only
able to make in favour of the motion. But as he
.despaired of this proceeding the motion he should
submit to the House was this :—" That from and
atter September the duty payable by tenant-farmers
under schedule B of the income- tax. should cease and
determine." He had been asked why he selected this
particular period? He did so because ne found it would
give relief to Scotland and England equally. He knew
he should be met, and fairly met, by a statement from
the Right Hon. Gentleman that the period of three years
would expire in April 1851. If the Right Hon. Gentle-
man would assure him—he did not wish to bind the
Right lion. Gentleman to an impossibility—that during
tne recess he would look into the whole matter and give
it his serious consideration, and that it he found suffi.
cient reason he would be disposed to give relief to th.t
class of persons for whom he humbly, deeply, and ear-
nestly entreated sympathy—to the tenant-farmers of the
country—if the Right lion. Gentleman would do that,
and hold out a hope of the probability of the removal of
this tax, he would net trespass on the time of the House
or of the Right Hon. Gentleman. But as he was afraid
the Right Hon. Gentleman was not disposed to give him
such an assurance instanter, he must take the liberty to
lay before the House the grounds cn which he conceived
he was justified in resting his motion, to which he trusted
his Hon. Friends in that House would give their support,
and thus bring the Right Honourable Gentleman to
a sense of duty, which, however, he would rather see
emanate from the Right Hon. Gentleman from a sense
on his part of what was right, avid what ought to be
granted to those for whom he now ventured to plead.
He did not wish to speak ill of any man who had ever
sat on the Treasury Bench. Though it was his duty to
differ from a d ceased statesman—the late Sir Robert
Peel, to whom he gave the utmost c-edit for t'se exercise
of every duty in private life, and with whose family he
deeply sympathised in their bereavement—still, as a pub-
lic servant, and reteeeibering.whet had passed in tstit
House during the period the Right Hon. Baronet held,
he might say, the neat important situadoa in the coun
try—recoil cting what had taken place, and what had
fallen from the ltight lion. throe, t which led to those
great disappointments felt by all in the House and every-
body in the country—except the Free-traders, certainly
by the great and iwportuut agricultural body—landlord,
tenant, and not least important, the Isbourieg class; he
was bound to eall the attention of the House to facts.
He well recollected that whets the late Right Hon. Baro-
net, in 1842, brought in it Bill for what he considered to be
an amendment of the existing corn-laws—which many on
his side of the House teought was anything but an
amendment—but, in reality, a violation of those rights
and engagements admitted by every statesmen, Mr.
Huskisson and others; he recollected the words
which the Right Hon. Baronet used to introduce his
measure, and he would read them to the House. The
Right Hon. Baronet commenced by saying—" Sir, I
rise in pursuance of the notice which I have given, to
submit to the House the views of her Majesty's Go-
vernment with respect to the modification and amend-
ment of those laws which regulate the import of foreign
corn." The Right lion. Baronet went on to say—" I
am aware of the difficulties which encompass the sub-
ject I am about to bring under the consideration of the
House. With regard to a matter in respect to which
such adverse opinions prevail, it is difficult to discuss
it without making statements or admissioas which will
be seized on by those who entertain opposite opinions ;
but I feel that the best course I can pursue is to submit
to the House the considerations which influenced the
judgment and decision of Ler Majesty's Government,
and to leave them to be decid d on by the reason, mode-
ration, and judgment of Pardament."
" The only object which I shall aim at in bringing this
subject under the consideration of the House will be to
state, as clearly and intelligibly as I can, the considera-
tions which have induced her Majesty's Govern-
ment in reference to the nature of the mea-
sure I am about to propose. One other object
I shall aim at—namely, to discuss this question affect-
ing such mighty interests, in a temper sod spirit con-
formable with its great importance, bearing in mind how
easy it is on each side to raise exaggerated apprehen-
sions, and find inflammatory topics by which the feelings
of the people may be excited. Her Majesty's Govern-
ment have deemed it their duty to consider the corn-
laws with a view to their modification and amendment.
They undertake the consideration of this question at a
period when there is commercial distress, and when
there exist grew' suffering amid privations connected with
that distress. But I feel it my duty, in the first place,
to declare that, a' ter having given to this subject the
fullest consideration in my power, I cannot recommend
the prop:sal which 1 have to make by exciting a hope
that it will tend materially and immediately to the miti-
gation of that commercial distress. While I admit the
existence of commercial distress—while I deplore the
sufferings which it has occasioned, and sympathise with
those who have unfortunately been exposed to privations,
yet I feel bound to declare that I cannot attribute the
distress—to the extent in which it was by some sup-
posed imputable—to the operation of the corn-laws. I
do not view with those feelings of despondency with
which some are inclined to regard them, the com-
mercial prospects of this country. * *
" But looking at the general state of the commerce o
this country, I neither see grounds for that despon-
dency with which some are in the habit of viewing it,
nor can I s-me any ground for imputing to the opera-
tion of the corn-laws, as some do, any material share
in the evils at present existing. I think we are too apt
to assume that there must be a constant and rapid in-
crease in the amount of our exports to other countries,
and we aro too apt to despond when we find any occa-
sional check in the amount of our exports. We decline
to compare the extent of our commerce in the last year
with a period of time more distant than the preceding
year. We insist on comparing it with the year imme-
diately preceding; and if there appears a decline we are
too apt to apprehend that the sources of our prosperity
are dried up. At all periods of our commercial history
there have been these alternations cf prosperity and de-
pression. The latest period to which the returns respects,
ing our trade are fully made up will include the year
1849, and comparing the state of trade in 1840 with its
condition in preceding years, during the operation of the
corn-laws, I see no ground for the inference sometimes
drawn, that the corn-laws ate the cause of our mis-
fortunes, and that the repeal or alteration of them will
supply an immediate remedy."
"I refer to this for the purpose of confirming my im-
pression, that to look fur any rapid or greet change in
the condition of the working population of this country
from any extensive change of the corn-liwy, would
subject you to great disappointment. My firm belief
is—l am now speaking with reference to those who
wish for an absolute repeal of these laws—that if
the House of Commons should be induced to
pledge itself to a total repeal, which we on this
side of the House deprecate so much, without relieving
permanently the manufactures of the country, you will
only superudd the severest agricultural distress. Any
such disturbance of agriculture as must follow from a
total repeal of the corn-laws would, in my opinion, lead
to unfavourable results, not only with respect to the
agriculturists there elves, but also to all those numerous
classes who ate identific I with them in interest." The
Right Hon. Baronet went un to say :—" Nothing can
be more difficult than to attempt to determine the
amount of protection required f,4 the home producer.

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say, that or the protec• • .„temen t
tural interest, as far as I can possibly form sin"
for its
laithreferenice toth e pro.b,
jaebrlie,)rfeint beuneegrrsitcianigt.
if the price of wheat in this country, allowing , to
natural oscillations, could be limited to some ace
amount as hi tseeen 545. and 585., I do not belt
it i:, fq• the interest of the agriculturiit tbst itr,..r.
be higher." The average was now much under 40 ~:ru_ri
Cher ou the Right Hon. Baronet said :--" ' ut t r
the h-' •
.. belief of my colleagues is. that it is imports _
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this colettirey, that it is of the highest importat.ce i° the
weitare of all classes in this country, that Yeti 5
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should be d • derived from domestic agriculture ; Po
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that object
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er its being advantageous to the country at
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from
• e were the statements in 1842 which they
the Right Hon. Baronet.
he wished to give was not protection to anY Psrl! pose
class. His belief and the belief cf his colleegue4e6
and to all e; of
that it %Vali important to this couetry,
the% care should be taken that the main sowee eur,ro.
supply of corn should be derived from domestic "g aid
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ture—and that any additional price which 'Wes Pba tile
effecting that object would be countertialdc;dhe liiellt
general gain in other respects. The words of tie r 0
lion. Baronet were, that it was essentially neessals/th,
give protection to domestic agriculture; and I.ll),coslci
:theA 41 quotations which could be referred to, it tonne
br . seen that the increasing imports from foreign ;no
tries contirno d to depress, and would, uliiiinlt' ;SO;
hileve the productions of this country. le ,Dtee
the Right Hen. Earonet brought In sel3i which gr
ll wha, tee
to her Majesty an income-tax on the properq April,
country for three years. The tax was to certie t.n old
1845, it was renewed from time to time, erld it goo.
expire on the sth of April, 1851. He wishei soil:1%13111
elember, between 1842 and 1851, had introduce woo
to ciftct the removal or the cessation of the tax 00 per
importent branches of our national industrY.,_o not
since 1842 there had been a constant deprese,° 'witb
only in grain, but in every thieg connect', 00
the landed interest. And to what weforeift°
depression owing? To the importation of . ihe
produce. And this had w..rked againsPont of
tenant-farmer in t No- ways. It had also personthrg4 l'
andtheir employ went an important class di la the
thrown an additional burden on the count
increase. of' poor-rates and other burdens. Mu
Thes•
e#oolB
this it bad tended to the increase of crime. eot
os
the del°. ca
some of the evils which had arisen from
at home caused by the importatioa of foreign corlitc, or
tie, butter, cheese, and other articles from foreiguou'iteg
for
poi.
tries. These he considered sufficient grounds
the remission fur the cultivators
lief the soil, vill°.,enest)
on in 1851 was quite impossi to Predict.'`. the
) is ~,
The imports of corn (wheat, bailey, and-cdtairel in led
three years ending 1849 were 18,514,249 Vie %port",
eight years from 1842 to 1849 the eusetitY • re s'
was not less than 206,422,739 qrs. lle W 3,: sr° lir
itt:
the Hon. Members for the Nest Riding en- ceusei
chester would say there was no distress in thetbsgros
notwithstanding their ground of opposition to toecil
proposed the other day was the distress of the eer.
Anubt te 9..
But he would ask, did any Hon. Member `"""-- I SOP
istence of distress among
(Hear, h
, hear.) lie knew the Right Hon.° awitheet
could not carry on the business f the count*? ir. °
lee
0 0 eh
certain impositions,' but he called on him t „weir.,
home, to the agricultural class
encourage trade and bome tnen'vte co"'
atodprotect the cultivator of the soil, and to Lek! ' to
said
fa eration the pressure of this tax on the I:, oe'
mers. He trusted the Right Hon. Golden:4,o placeabotitvi'ool
acquiesce in the motion which he was
before the Hott,e. It' be should not do 9°,„11e1-000,
new the application in another' session of rar I load P,
(Hear.) The Hon. and Gallant Member 00cettb°
SePte'n"r uj3 ehiii
moving that from and after the 20th hedule
cease atm dote r •
duties payable by tenant farmers under Sc
m. _ reine.—(Chcers.) ,eviesie tlictignlit
The CHANCELLOR of the EN:Cflr''‘-- a-c
(I te-hr.
the Hon. aud Gallant Gentleman would bale - °7t io °.l
,übjecx
woo
judiciously if he had brought forward the
next session, when the renewal of the incerelee 11,,e,t3;
come under the consideration of the House. gee el
and Gallant Gentleman must be aware that t 0 consist
one class from the 'would be
income-tax An cle.'%
with the principle on which it was levied. ;. nch sls
under a certain sum were relieved, but whe"e6-cote°3ll:
was. levied it must be paid by all classes of wen, eft':
nitly. It would be manifestly unjust to favour,°„,ted It
c_ii ar class at the expense of another, and he 'r." matioe'
Hon. and Gallant Gentleman would not pros hie,b, 00;
Mr. BUCK trusted the subject would recei.,,,vag'oo3,°„°;
slderalion of the Government before the cOul"fiteted ye
of another session. No such injustice vide I:, 00 the
any other class in any country in EuroPe, ;-here lyre"
tenant farmers of this country. He believed '-
oddeell,'-,
not a farmer who could not come forwsrd ittret/P:,
that he had not gained a shilling. Ori tbe u()fnally 011,,".
was convinced that a great manyg. had Suuk..,'„-uld bt,,.8
third of their capital.—(Hear, flear.) Ic, ::-Gove',i
n some encouragement to the fainers it the hello'',
meat had held out any prospect of elief• but be obi
they would never obtain an atom ofr redress' eic6
their. own exertions —(Cheers) 00
Mr. NEWDEGA l'E said it. app eared the 'P.91,1°6130'4'
about to
aclose as it had commenced. The Itg,"unillief'
Gentleman, n, In stating that the income-tax afide e-btr
talY imposed, seemed to forget one rewareeh ther -:.
tn''`lY' nalud—teat the farmer must pay le,er etl4-,
made.iowe profits} or nut.—(Hear, beer.) When's' JO'
Int et bvyer' wee brought before the House, it in-115 P°:
the sternest refusal to consider the anoto'-901
sition in which they are played.--(Hear, bear.) oeer
had iuvested their capital to a large extent on Or,
ray of lime which they did not suppose would b°o fol
utetsyteatlt:netilolrol
gated;the al i g but
Dreutintase:tbleestidoef
cus.ion on the malt-tax, the Noble Lord at toed tb°
itisolth(e'fir (Cii°s'tirilens's).llB
the Government said he was not unprepared te Poor
agriculturists distressed by the change in lbeece°oooi;
(dal tariff; but he hoped their distress would 74, lit;
tory. The Noble Lord, however, did not 5"..-Lieldr
long he thought the depression likely to 104 "to 01161
bold out the least hope of anything being d°llnely //04111
viute their sufferings.—(Hear, hear.) The, °;' bit-s
produce an impression upon the Governmen" „- iris a° ter
pressureb from without, and he believed it W°"-ciellt '''ef
longtraa
le ore they would discover that they cache WI
ttibtee prosperityaerit ofo otthheercs.ll--haVgortockile.ell,
portions of the community a d 0 t-eb°6l..e'
time maintain
Accordingtation
Exchequer, he bed to deal with a surplus e.t.34-bier,;
but yet nothing had been done for the relief 01,,be tit P-
l- class, except, indeed
, the abolition 01 %welt
geisiolurs. t‘ov
on bricks, which was, hi point of fact, rather ,:lotl•;41;
the
IDEHOUSE said th • . f the
'tile
towns than to the agricultural Eggdisl'"
farmer was erfectly new d e positioninieot peRO r..s,
mustbe fully considered:las well t (1000:1/110
sition of the landlord, and e
sembled it
—Clear, hear.) There nevvee•rrywoansea ePereiod in wiltiocr
...bitti
azgardiculture of the country was exp(P.ised to grel-co P": 4
, or one in which greater feelings of dePretisliP,o
alarm had been created by the inconsiderate ley ltr
which foresight and prudence might o°6- 04
averted.—(ll,-1 was ts Of
Mr. SPOONEE said that tenant properti,:r c 1056,01
which did not apply on a prineipi..
property._ The tax was levied according to the tit 14*/-
of rant, and nut the tenant's profit. NOW /he arretceer' 0
no criterion of the profit obtained") abYnYthit4-wei:.:::bri6B:
( Hear.) There was another point which h`be-1 Petc"tot
press on the attention of the Chancellor of chores o
aquuethr: that was the propriety of introducing 0 ~,,reoo
h 'rising the Commissioners of the PrdP,,eeaool.sed
old meetings to hear appeals,
right to appeal, for the purpose of showing 4;:iwth"ot
and givina e'et Weal
of
having gained during the last twelve 03° 1000. eet
have in re alit been subjected to a considerablepooP'
place. On its being The gallerya
bweausigclreea-reVenfodr a division, Oil rots
Mr. DISRAELI was statieng his deterteinst,le%)etrb° .
on
for the motion
agriculturists not only
After the alteration made in ion 0,/
foreign co.rn, Parliament was b and to trigotiv:he
quer that it would
(Ileac.) The objection- ample,
ii(l,e
obbnite:etoion3ta,l)l;oeititibeile-vPO
a01:0.101:
this session shvyasthane
impossible to peso a h' a 0 9,
eof the Chancellor et to 00 00.
subject
ported by the OpposHitieoni,mandvetrhi
cure, it introduced
eimreenvvo,_utlazieopo,llo
before the cud of the sessiOin
culty in passing it.
be introduced by the Government
aa and sdPl i ugsbbel ei ece:e:s 9ifiln°l BlPill Avert
'
tied. In supporting the motion he was acti-71/oc.•;otri
harmony with the plinc.Ve he had alw-I.!° e de '-t 0'
iviiezt.i,etsheant after the alteration which had been le ley
doing eerfectfign corn no opportunity .
should
to iles
justice to the agriculturists cd , Ole
Kingdom.
Mr. BRIGHT said that one would stlPll.esedieffrr:fl'e'ir°
speech of the Hon. Member that the 10; g Itee.to
suffering some great injustice from the Pr.es-enOscvse- re
_, ri.(Cneers.) He was not surprised at the Vocrfermast
t," oi
"' "un. Gentlemen opt, ts•t ould
pose that the farmer was( at all tOimaeedserneithieeve)°oll%-oth,• e
tb°:
a beast of burden. The !clod wodP
Fome•tax on the tenatit•farremseenrtsnlwoas adnPtt-h- their P'. te
impossibilityw of ascertaining precisely what very ;cctia
inie, inasmuch as they did not observe acJabterei 0'
rate method of book-keeping—(Oh, and latreeteoPtbert
believed it could be shown that the present farms "ost
posed a smaller r..t, of taxation on the iro.,-130
that paid by other parties. If the propositiont 04.'00
the tenant-farmers should pay no inconle't °en /46 i0.41/'
the other classes were to continue to ralenitt',ptrboeedi,"iwttive
—(Oh.) Hon. Gentlemen but an iletsed tO 11,4 s del not only an extraerdinar
that the end of
▪ ig the recess it would be necessarys aPP t 0 loeP2t 41;0
worn together—and
utt seosest
othernoaiit aolcatoyhseleiFkrre::ttewebebeitiliopg..;:ei,:eliPiciro°:(;
nearly lowers
requisite. He was opposed to the income OM',
but he was how convinced of the PrePriel 0 geeroe:
direct taxation.
The Marquis of GRANBY said the Wel. the 1114
the income-tax
was mistaken a
tenant-farmers srwitaaos,,tfhiresr
poruorpidoase,r
thoinic,jeti;hesipec°o9ite;
adepted. At the time pr° ee
i„,10 ,; A
atBuxd v.i.tasseialms toed
thereforeth f.aanrmadevrasnwtaetrree tmoatkbilletng 1' tl3l3B:grfl'ibl
tax II ss q
, e,.sed on half their rents 17insteed ef '913 eltSetis
• , but n
profits. At that time the
cern-law exist-di ascht‘l4oo°
it was repealed the condition of the farmers Wo bate c 0(
a,(n):lB.they were paying the tax nest on a Pr°s4'erebe pill
' (dear.) He could assure the lion. oied,
Manchester that there was no fear of the P,191
not beingb kept up in the country.-01e4r*Lared„
T a !louse then divided, when there ePk''' 3A
For the motion ••• ••• •• sci
Against it ... ... ." ..-19
Majority against .;i3e motion ,„"'s, ,to De
GENERAL PRACTITION•ra 13i1 jicilijet
Mr. WY LI) moved for leave to Ong 2„,.-i 03°-:e°,ll-
- the general practitioners of eurgefit'lle alp:
and midwifery. His object was to "t'heaterfeeeac
practitioners on being incorporated 0 e.-,lsioaev
dates desirous of practising as general Pooo'
_....

Colonel TIIOMPSON seconded the motion.
'l4cave was given to bring in the 1111.
Mr, HE THE lONIAN ISLANDS.
' LIIINIE then rose to call the a.ten:ion of the
liell.. se to the cases f I to riots and prochmation of mar-
dal law
1G tk in
CePhaloncia.a and poc't edings thereupon and
b. ue.grievances of the haunts of the lonian Isl'andts.
4e said it was with regret he rose to bring forward t o
boutott 0 o or
which he had given notice, because he was
takn%„,t,_°oeomolain of the measures of an Hon. Gentle-
be hvo had long sat on these benches, and with wwlaiormia
fiend long iong acted, in the belief that he was a
klnedd
toaftebiavtil and religious liberty. Indeed he had Feb-
Hon. Gentleman the question of the Irish
wag in order that he might prove to the country that thi:4B the friend of religious liberty. But there was some-
not ja, the possession of power which seemed to change
WI, °II/ the opinions bat the very nature of man.
ti oeerik sir R. Ward was appointed to his present situlad-
be
tiluo considered the appointment the best that
_cio.o '
pointed lie was sorry to say that he had been
_d..3!..".
Iti,a,.; u i 0 eve!), respect with the conduct of Sir H.
be
nru, but yet it was more in sorrow than in anger
oin.
plaint gab anxious to direct attention to it. His
1144 was that he had proclaimed martial law withoutcises
holdneces'itY• Re was sorry to say that the proabi
di4..°llt to the lonians thirty years ago had alI been potyPointed. He concurred entirely in the propriety hu,`tnft. down the disturbances that took place in 18-19,
teo`i'lle thought the Lord High Commissioner had beet
there astY in procla.ming martial law. He did net think
martial w 7 sufficie. „,around far placing the island under
with detail!' at all. He would not trouble the House
logs. it, but next state the result of these proceed-
tarti 1 4Peared that 68 persons were tried by courat:
thelle 4 during the existence of martial law. That.ro.t.
triso 44 were sentenced to death, 21 executed,
TII 41, I corporally punished, and 2 acqu7ittied.
etew„ ,
vent had" also 96 persons flogged, although that punish-
cooaia not been previously practised there,. as i,t.
ownals
.
itoorred brutal. L
iimaci toe Government substitu e i
ibi.,..
lit;?7into these matters? Was there any res
411000 as it to be said that English commandersPncrosouuld.
lilt, niloge and imprison with the most perfect i_
w 131,.,
the ' and without any authority? What he wanted
the
biatlttittikreiti: pronitilitoht int
htehenet
voife
waofCommakmiinsgs i otnh
et
most 1) roc e ed ttoe i
0.,
subject. The Hon. Membermcionnuctludb,edr
kaje:ng that an humble address be presented. o a .
tilltect,„PraYing her to order a Commission. tobe p
'vts, and go OUt to the island to examine into these
mee e•rAm to report on the best means of promoting
1 140rFvu T,P ros De ri ty in the colony,
114441 .`':,GrENT Seconded the motion. He would thinnks-
bN4t h f guilt of baseness in the face of the transactio
s)+tattcittin•a'e,n Place in the lonian Islands, and that were
1.1140.,. g Place there, if he shrank from supporting; byo
7 0361-;',111 well as by his vote, the motion of the Ho..
'1) ,„' 11:)r Montrose, He would assert that the °in-
,uteoee,„'resPeet and v of these sad occurrences had
fie People rl-.ne-pt back by the Government.
~,stly ; , too, N
'lle Ilstaneee were grossly maisarjeupsresented, and in
he lly. sir
ii.rev;t7terdd,u.n aoi
ar
ay tly, cruelly, and
'of his letters, said that
Niatl3 afraid he ald hinve to run the risk of ng
bet
.ered . . wou a
Ott fo 4, tYrant and a persecutor; but he could not
ir4Psi gelled toen had to deal with semi-barbarians, and was
a-kee left a t accordingly. The Noble Lord then
ciilf, ~,.(e-• to reade extracts from the dispatches on the
cur' -"4llnntiting upon them as he went alon. he
h 4; Itig p
.aro -h —onaraissioner admitted he got a portion. of
44,frrtnation from an individual whom he designated
the tl,,alltislt,raiter utterly regardless of the obligation
the formationitl4u d,' in order toobtain the more readily
tsp he required he ordered him to be paid
Ear. tn of a
Geb -01 This was a course of proceeding which
thll i'.ioJ,_ approved.
11,t thap N' MEMBER rose, and informed the Speaker
Pallthc, lie were not forty Members in the House.
NineA Was counted out accordingly at a Quarter
oto_ k.
To_ Ue

THE
R R.I'ARE SECRETARY
v,ill,_-„"I)FORD REFORM ASSOCIOATFION.
,4413:11,:un, Monday the 221, in the Committee on
I,l4llffa,.J' °ll the question of the charge fur New Zoea.:
i?iaki -,-,(,),t.lollNvasmadeto reduce the amount by
.6s 010/..
;‘ls-,",,' t,t payment towards the income of theoßfi h
New;4_41:J41441 to vote against the Las Cases
~,, l'",,i tut the objection was to so levying such a
Ni n.'',.', ,i'ot to either the amount or the object 25
tletile°4lsiled from that question. The constitauencoies
'het to the bissenters are in strength, nathuerinllgy b
laid
41111 e the Payments fur a dominant sect
Oa teh°4llhunity.
:tilt, t",eLsatne night was a renewal of the struggle
111 4th le Regiunt Donum, a discreditable gifth forced
r
el -"e Dissenters against the consent of t
1°441:1;d101' the continuance of which it is difficult
The5111,,,e a laudable motive.
was passed,
ilth -,eclesiastical Commission Bill
~
of his
ihteeti4oeleadments. The, Minister gave noace
het 1 rawthe
IN at° Wthd Jewish Oaths Bill for the
i(laT,
bfghts 41411:7 thin House,
lc for i• a is. A discussion on the
as is frequent on the
time tiooril::vsathe
ldinitteon
House together for some
tikllisiiblletillthe middle of a debate on late trtansac
194 ellualarlia the House was counted
have
thikpea, 4 Strange
in tilling that England should avehnelodt 1
Itilt!,;sBdinell„_Ke.Cephalonia for thirty years, and. the ths,bitkt tue slightest progress in amalgamating
Ni h 4,1' On the contrar, the last act.
.ot.'ethl.e
``4l'! '/ever is declare them "sellll-4a b
iii, , eto nor to
IP tiv a" teconsequence, as he states, to turn them
'ithi;ezens to the operation of that bloody
'fell the name of martial law.
14 en; Sir, your obedient servant,
04011
q, ' 'July 24 185ACI.N OLD
REFORMER.
ttkv ..„.,_
CONCERTS.
lit I) A;-;IONAL
~
4 gni '-
.et , erstam from undoubted authority, that
t 4 0 Jest Y's ' ' • ]suer lie etoile Y s Theatre is to be opened pei?ed_
I and miscella-
Nis r aeXt f
sica
Goys
25tle )or a series of cas. the latt end
11it;4r4,, ens, to be called e Grand National
iiir"-,o Yrs°,tnt: scale of completeness and excellence
monwealth of noblemen
sOttoltielllen,rnoPfted. ~Aeevomni hest rank and talent,
Ad " °fart, - - the 1.-"settingg on foot this great
kfrorTehine. he united in of which is to
tl„,, the '7,,
.t,..e chief aim and object
kik? ftet4 xlleolic generally everythst le of composi-
ith ellt lia'aut grandest works of. . the most celebrated
the'liiclls b,,,, erti, to all the varieties of the modern
cutants.
114, vo;°_,'rned by the very first living exe _
110417eostdia`t?ePartment will be included several of
ghee' and „Illngoisherl artistes of the four musical na-
t44llt k 411", e orchestra and instrumental soloists will
W°Pelis. I°4 of talent never yet witnessed in any
hots 'learn
h 41
UM 11
welcome the advent of this great na-
ki ertak•
to th'ild d 4 • log; for the vast proess of music in
No roost sung the last few years has been evident
The crowds which
trlLli,the liste,.u.Perficial observer.
kilt% th4e to every class of compositiononc fully es-
i Concerts,
Ns, for „, fac. The Philharin
PqIV of the years had been deemed the conse.r-
eSdeatie highest order of instrumtehneitral music,
original
littiotte, are of having lost much of
1141I`ear, 5 °lily within the reach of th.etwieesalthy
3' toriZhcie Sacred Harmonic Socte. . are the Zero „ e to the performance of oratorios , and tk, -rster
runions" established fur the audition of
corn-
04n1.1184:rnellaulbe.r music are limited to a
4,....petit.,,.-vt section of the public. .
kii).:4 hitt,
beenquon Combining these several requeieres.-
Itt.::taasil long wanted, but the elements nheo
e.
k Ali re its realization were considered
elll diffi I ' I,
-thia lleell ell ties have now been overcome, and
`1411,a. red to carry out this grand national de i hti ‘t'PB
hptiNtae have already ,. 4 nts i been taken for the necessary ar-
Ahe heal a the theatre, and numerous artistes,
...
ttv 444(1 and instrumental, are already enga, .d
~kiti:ft,,t will he selected from the principakorches.
'Nit 'llll r°' No exclusive reference is to be
ikl et!, Particular school or nation. The monu:
thokisVlOetions of Germany, Iraly, Prance, and.
thiAole 1111.4*r:A and modern—will be presented. ,
~,4% L let°
N'ilt"' rql, rY of the progress of musical art will
Otitekes eted) thereby effecting the purposes and
11INallit,et thner IL `` National Cons.ervatoria.”
teal 113 k wilenlef features of this truly colossal un-
IV the pr!'' be the carrying out, on the grandest, 1
tt‘t:tte-.... illeiPle already realized at Her Mjesty s
.h(11,... the
111 Yth rreouction of the finest works, illus-
hiti tow
,e finest artists,
I_l4ll/1111,,1it 4,1°40f all qualified to pronounce a correct
ill "",,,Rll4-ettleani
~-.'71,,TN1;4
.Prinnlenel s in
tona..e, under whose dis-
"l thtottchtiplces thipla r has been naatured, and
Ph - VltltBteLdnrine already- secured,an assure the success
he,A.lik ~
....................._eble undertaking.
11eZlete (iNe--------------________-,
~,---7------
It has
I,h sat)°, Ortine,-,slanzu rE EL MONUME.NT.—
t'tN,-N Othooci "` bY the inhabitants of Tollington. and, its
hsti to thett_ereet a column 01,1. th? „mit or rile
Voti4 or the i,,,:e11101:3- of the late Sir I,obseurt I'eel The
by
1,._ helps ache of. this column, which will be accessible
loNshigted to•rse. will command a panoramic scene of
th°eliitiifilliloverlue4l.!ncircurnfererice, embracing a sight of
14, ritti 6)ton ; 7,:xstone Edge ; the Derbyshire bills, over •
e, ea `... atm "le Staffordshire range of hills, Chesh.ire,
ilZtee /::' the Cumberland hills, and the watering
b., -4 of tc.'u:ashire coast, Hoicombe_bill is within a
o4ttt`l4ery
age birthplace of the late Sir Robert Peel.
10hg RN, 't the renst difficult thing to preserve is
LAs '''Oiza Cook's Journal.
,413(111') Ju
iht ;bete..,:t e,tn.,,,rir 20.—CorroN MAR li.2.T.—Tbiere
ia 1,1%t weeT:.%:_e,der.nand for cotton at our marketdc lur-
e setir‘,cter:l4eo.nuto fruoutirlernsehavebimproved nearlty:4/
a jourable
I:l4tizettl3te,Ple",nrs, find the tianeaarkeetwfogrotthenx produceun in an
Irirld bo ;151' t)i,,t, ir
tilre acted with more confidence. Our
etket eil4Less nor !as been extremely flat during the week,
tliptleinttt.o.ll,t,t,..loriencise,zs,..e67.
quiet] ante has been transacted. The
445. cash for all numbers
re Iva bwe ~,iin t Gartsherrie. In the absence of
losv;kids, feentioue, °, expect any improvement, as the pro-
r, or eiai,,. suficient, or rlea 1 to u l all de-
-1.1314.41,'"1ent and consu •r Y so, spp y
livtlia Ily ILpitlON,ir ]....... A niPtlon.
1,i111111t04.11?WaY'S Pills A. remarkable Cure in Hobart_
ttild.„
oiridg,,, Habar,nl Ointment.—Major Welch; of
!teat,' he se4,,,_4llerit e„ic, ' Llown, writes that Holloway's
iroroent of ''', of one LY nigh reputation in Van Diemen s
eka Atlas !he inediZan who for years had been under the
104Nielmeat . P.tal 1,,,i in_layractitioners, and was discharged
~tnee
0110 we'd, tijia"f L.ble, and had become so miserable
l'eno,need jellens 8: he ePold only move about with the
lotp.7kted hiuslee thpse
irr.t,pg him. In this condition be
tont ;oats ' health tha.
i7tes, which have so completely
1,r.,,na1v...,,.and hi.
___'• Ile is now become a stout, healt:l7-
, hollmq? l'intttie_t*
.resgo' • rill", ,•,:ire he
soeis
eloyldattributes to the use. of
1 I
by all druggists, and at
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PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS.

(From the Votes and Proceed:ngs if the House of Corwraotv.)

TUESDAY, JULY 23.
MEDICAL CHARITIES (IRELAND) BILL.
(IN THE COMMITTEE.)
Clause 8 ( Dispn3ary Districts to be formed in each Union ;
cost of Medical Relief, Salaries, &c., to be charged on Poor
Rates) :—Amendment proposed, page 3, line b, after the
word " appointment," to insert the words " prepare a scheme
or plan for the division of each Union or of adjoining Unions
in Ireland into so many Dispensary Districts, having regard
to the extent and population t f such Districts, as they shall
deem necessary :"—Question put, " That those words be
there inserted." The Committee divided:—
MAJORITY—AYES, 51.

Dunne, C,;lonel

Fitzpatrick, J. W.
Nu,geut, air Percy

MINORITY—NOES, 5.
Tenison, E. K.
Vesey, Hon. T.

TELLERS.
Ferguson, Sir R.
Clements, Charles

Same Clause :—Amendment proposed, at the end of the
last Amendment, to add the words " but so, nevertheless,
that no electoral division formed under the Acts for the
more eiTectual relief of the destitute poor shall be divided ;
and in such scheme or plan the said Commissioners shall
also state the number and salaries of the officers to be ap•
pointed for the service of each such Dispensary District, a d
the number of personS who shall be members of the com-
mittee of management of such district as hereinafter is pro-
vided:"—Amendment proposeg to the proposed Amendment,
by leaving out the words " and salaries :"—Question put,
‘• That the words ' and salaries' stand part of the proposed
Amendment." The Committee divided :
MAJORITY—AYES, 41.
Anstey, T. C. llatchell, John Scrope, G. P.
Renew, R. M. Henry, Alexander Smyth, Jc hn George
Blackall, S. W. Heyworai, Lawrence Somerville. Sir W
Blair, Stephen Hobhouse, Sir John Thompson, Colonel
Booth, Sir R. G. Howard, Lord:E. Thornely, T.
Bouverie. E. P. Meagher, Thomas Villiers, Charles
Cowper, W. F. Mahon, O'Gorman Walmeley, Sir J.
Duncan, George Maule, Fox Watkins, Colonel
Dundas, Sir D. Moore, G. H. Westhcad, J. B.
Ellis, John Picot, Francis Williams, John
Fagan. W. Rawdon, Colonel Wilson, :James
French, F. Rich, Henry
Grace, 0. D. J. Romilly. Colonel TELLERS.
Grenfell, Charles W. Russell, F. C. H. Hayter, W. G.
Hamilton, G. A. Salwey, Colonel Hill, Lord M.

MINORITY-NOES, 24.
Arkwright, George Dunne, Colonel Nugent, Sir Percy
Brooke, Sir A. B. Ferguson, Sir E. O'Brien, Sir LuciuS
Brotherton, J. Fitzpatrick, J. W. Scully, Francis
Campbell, W. F. Forester, G. C. Stafford, A.
Chatterton, Colonel Fuller, A. E. Tenison, Edward K.
'ole, H. A. Grogan, E. Vesey, Thomas
Dawson, T. V. Jones, Captain TELLEIid
Dickson, Samuel Kershaw, JameS Norreys, Sir D.
Duncuft, John Naas, Lord Clements, Charles

Same Clause : Amendment made, by adding at the eld
of the last Amendment the words" and the said Commis-
sioners shall transmit a copy thereof to the Board of Guar-
dians of each Union affected thereby, and fix a time not
sooner than one month for the revision and determination
thereof; and after the expiration of such month, having
considered any suggestions of alterations in such scheme or
plan made by any such Board of Guardians, the said Corn.
missioners shall, by order under their seal, declare such dis-
trict and the number and salaries of such officers, and the
number of persons who shall be members of the committee
of management, and shall send the same to the Board of
Guardians of such Union :" - Amendment proposed, at the
end of the last Amendment, to add the words "and it shall
be lawful for any such Board of Guardians to appeal against
such order to the 14.- rd-Lieutenant in Council within one
month after the date of such order, and the Lord-Lieutenant
in Council shall finally consider and determine the same:" -
Question put, " That those words be there added." The
Committee divided :

MINORITY-AYES, 31.
Archdall, Captain Ferguson, Sir E. Norreys, Sir D.
Arkwright, G. Fitzpatrick. J. W. Nugent, Sir Percy
Beresford, William Forester, G. C. O'Brien, Sir Lucius
Blair, Stephen Fuller. A. E. Scully, Francis
Booth, -Sir K. G. Hamilton, G. A. Stafford, Augustus
Brooke, Sir Arthur Hamilton, Lord C. Tenison, E. K.
Chatterton, Colonel Herb rt, H. A. Vesey, T.

Corry, H. L.
Dawson, T. V.
Dickson, S.
Duncuft, John

Jocelyn, Viscount
Jones, Captain TELLERS.
Ker, Richard Grogan, Edward
Meagher, Thomas Clements, C. S.

Dunne, Colonel Naas, Lord

MAJORITY-NOES, 39.
Adair, R. Shafto Grenfell, Charles W. Rich, Henry
Anstey, Thomas C. Hall, Sir Benjamin Rornilly, Colonel
Bellew, R. M. Batchell, John Russell, F. C.;
Brotherton. J. Headlam, Thomas Salwey, Colonel
Campbell, W. F. Henry, Alexander Scrope, G. P.
Cowper, W. F. Heyworth, Lawrence Somerville, Sir W.
Craig, Sir W. G. llobhouse, Sir John Thompson, Colonel
Duncan, George Howard, Lord E. Thornely, T.
Dundas, Sir David Kershaw, James Watkins, Colonel
Ellis, John Lascelles, W. S. Westhead, J. Y.
Fagan, William Maule, Fox Williams, John
French, F. Moore, George H. TELLERS.
Grace, 0. D. Pigott, Francis Hayter, W. G.
Graham, Sir James Rawdon, Colonel Hill, Lord Marcus