The Sun.
London, England, 1850-05-08 00:00:00

ffourtt A4bition

SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT
(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
IRISH FISHERIES BILL.
Mr. CONOLLY (in continuation from our After-
noon Edition) proceeded to say, that no justifica- '
tion of the Honourable Member could do away
with the unconstitutional principles which were con-
tained in this Bill. The Hon. Gentleman then went at
some length through the several clauses of the Bill, and
stated his objections severally to each of them, and con-
cluded by pointing out that the whole principle of
the Bill was in entire opposition to the recommen-
dation of the Committee which had sat on this sub-
ject, over which the Hon. Gentleman himself presided,
and he hoped that it would meet with the decided oppo-
sition of the House.
Mr. SCULLY supported the amendment, because he
thought that several clauses were calculated to injure a very
large and important class in Ireland, be meant the holders
of mills on streams, and he thought that the interests of
this class would be very largely affected by the Bill of the
Honourable Member for Youghal. The Bill as it now
stood would have a very injurious effect upon existing
interests, and he would advise the Honourable Member
for 'roughen to withdraw it for the present, and t 3 bring
• in an amended Bill in which all the objectionable clauses
• might be omitted.
• Lord NAA.S said, as his name appeared on the
back of the Bill, he thought it right to state
the grounds on which he supported it. The
present law respecting fisheries in Ireland was so vague
and contradictory that it was necessary some measure
should be introduced to consolidate the law and to recon-
cile the contradictions which now unhappily existed.
That was the object of the present Bill, and, if passed,
he thought it would put an end to much litigation and
clear away many difficulties. The leading prin-
ciple of the measure was to consolidate the old Acts,
and the new clauses which had been introduced did not
interfere with that principle; he trusted, therefore, that
the House would consent to its being referred to a Select
Committee of the House.
Colonel DUNNE objected to some parts of the Bill,
but supported the motion for sending it to a Select
Committee. There were already seven Acts of Parlia-
ment on this subject, and as they had given rise to great
ambiguity, the necessity of farther legislation, with the
• view of consolidating the law, was apparent.
Mr. NAPIER said the contradictions and ambiguity
of the present law did not arise from the law itself,
but from the way in which it was construed and ad-
. ministered, and he deprecated the practice of apply-
ing for Acts of Parliament to rectife mistakes
which were not inherent to the law itself,
but arose from its maladministration. A Bill wasintro--
• duced and passed in 1842, to clear up the doubts
which previously existed, and further legislation, he
thought, would have the effect of launching them again
info a sea of difficulties.
• • Mr. FAGAN said he should support the second reading
if the Bill was afterwards to be referred to a Select Com-
mittee. It was evident that some legislation was necessary
in order to protect farther the salmon fisheries of Ireland,
but this Bill was a very cumbrous one, and would
require considerable amendments before it could be of
any benefit to the country. Unless something was im-
• mediately done to preserve Irish fisheries they would
•• • dWindle away to nothing, and great numbers of the la-
bouring classes who were now engaged in that occupa-
tion, who deserved and ought to receive protection, would
be thrown out of employment.
Mr. GROGAN thought that some legislation was ne-
cessary to protect the millowners on the one hand and
the proprietors of salmon fisheries on the other. He
would support the second reading, but as he thought the
Eiji would require considerable amendment, he suggested
' that the best mode of dealing with it was to refer it to a
Select Committee.
" Mr. S. CRAWFORD opposed the Bill, because it
"11.,. proposed to give to a triumvirate of commissioners the
most arbitrary powers which were ever conceded to any
body.
Mr. O'FLAHERTY supported the second reading on
the understanding that the Bill would be referred to a
Select Committee, which, if properly constituted, would
no doubt send it back in proper dimensions, and obviate
the objections of all parties to its provisions.
Sir J. YOUNG opposed the Bill as an unwarrantable
!interference with private rights.
Mr. LAWLESS supported the Bill.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he felt the great impor-
• tance of legislating on the subject of Irish fisheries, and
he had wanted to hear what the opinions of Hon. Mem-
bers were, but not one in the course of the debate had
ventured to approve altogether of the present Bill. He
gathered, however, from the discussion that all were
agreed that some further legislation was necessary;
therefore the real practical question was as to the best
mode of effecting that object, whether by referring the
Bill to a Sleet Committee, or by withdrawing it for the
present, and introducing another which was more likely
to meet with the approbation of Honourable Members.
• He thought the latter course was the beet, and he would
advise the Honourable Gentleman not to persevere with
the Bill on the present occasion, for though some of its
provisions were unobjectionable, it would not, on the
whole, give general satisfaction.
Mr. MAURICE O'CONNELL supported the Bill be-
cause many of its provisions would be extremely useful.
Mr. ANSTEY briefly replied to the different speeches,
and concluded by expressing his determination to per
severe with the second reading.
• The House then oivided, when there appeared—
For the second reading ... 37
For the amendment 197
Majority --160
The Bill was consequently thrown out.
EXTRAMURAL INTERMENTS BILL.
Mr. LACY moved the second reading of this Bill,
and in doing se said he proceeded on the principle that
interments should nct be made the subject of private
specula ion and profit. He proposed by the Bill that
land should be purchased- at a distance of
twenty-five or thirty miles from the metropolis,
where facilities might be afforded for the conveyance
of bodies by railway. Another provision of the
Bill was, that it should be penal for two
persons to be buried in one grave. The
Hon. Gentleman, after alluding to the proposed ce-
metery at Erith, and stating the inconveniences con-
nected with that sight for a burying ground, stated that
he did nut think the Government measure practicable,
but that the one he proposed would be produc-
tive of the best results. If the House allowed his Bill
to be read a second time he had no objection to its
being referred to a Select Committee.
Mr. Alderman SIDNEY supported the second reading
of the Bill. The Bill of the Government was so faulty
that he was fearful unless the present Bill and
the one introduced by the Government were both re-
ferred to a Select Committee there would be no effectual
legislation on the subject during the present session.
Mr. LABOUCLIERE opposed the second reading of
the Bill. The Bill involved a principle that was so ob-
jectionable that he felt convinced the House would not
sanction it; he alluded to the fact that the Bill empow-
ered railway companies, under the direction of the Rail-
way Commissioners, to conduct ;the business that had
hitherto been conducted by cemetery companies.
He belived that no railway company would be found
, who would consent to perform such inconsistent duties.
The Right Ilea. Gentlemen concluded by moving that
the Bill be read a second time that day six months.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the
Home divided, when there appeared—
For the second reading ... . . 4
'Against it ... 123
Majority against the second reading 119
GAOLS BILL.
On the motionBOROUGH of Mr. MUNTZ the Borough Gaols
Bill was read &second time and ordered to be committed
on Friday.
MEDICAL CHARITIES IRELAND.
••••• On the motion of Colonel DUNNE a return was
ordered of the medical charities in Ireland, the county
les. hospitals or infirmaries,
_the fever hospitals, and other
charities, supported wholly or in part from county funds.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
tna elouse adjoured at Six o'clock.

FRAN CE.
The Prime says—" M. de Lamartine who had de-
manded leave of absence for two months to proceed
to the East, yesterday withdrew his demand. M. de
Laanartine thought that it would not be right for an
. . elected of universal suffrage to leave his post at the
" ' 'moment at which universal suffrage is about to be
p.
He has, therefore, adjourned his
.d in question.
journey, and sacrificed,,_t. without hesitation, a great in-
terest to a great
7 duty."
The e publishesy the following at the head
medium of a huissier :
."of illlshe'l? numberePll 'itoqu-day, transmitted to it by the Prefect
" 6th May, 1850..
of Police through the The _Republique published in its
1 dissolution of the Legion
the following recital: It
" - number of this morning
jII di,
e i
appears that
' di . St. Hubert has not discouraged the Legiti-
artL a
".A *mists in their project ofl
n organization.
Welt informed, the
sof
th the
ionlf of we
the
e
p
buchess of Berry assemble every
Neuve
St. Augustin,
great num-
bersand at a place in the Rue
. .; discuss, without any police
annoyances, than eleven
evenin
• - and projects. Thia meetin has in
nolitical ideas
. We have
hundred members at one franca
MPhil'
hid the means of witnessing a
to us. In
ramoo.nreth
enrolment which had been pointed out
distri-
a cafe of the Quartier of the Bank there is
. plan of
bated gratuously a demi chope of beet, or a small glass
a pipe
of brandy, two sous' worth of tobacco, and pipe
or
with a fleur-de-lis in white enamel, sur-
mounted by a crown of the same material, to every
ci:izen who comes to that establishment. Those who
accept these articles are in a moment accosted by two
or three individuals, who invite him to attend
the. meeting in the Rue Neuve St, Augustin. One
of our friends, who voluntarily yielded to their entrea-
ties, made the strangest revelations to us as to the honest
• and moderate conversations of the members of that
meeting. The Prefect of Police is perfectly well aware
of what is done at the meeting in the Rue
Neuve Saint Augustin, as well as at several
• others of different colours, which the Republique per-
) hope also knows of, but which it does not point out. The
• •men of order may rely on the vigilance of the authori-
• ties, who will know how to deal with both one and the
other of these meetings, whatever may be the colour to
• Jvhich they belong, as soon as they become a real cause
' - 'of uneasiness fur public order. As to the cafe to
which the democratic journal alludes, it is situated
In the Rue Coquilliere, and also perfectly well
known to the police. It is necessary only to add, in

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