The Sun.
London, England, 1868-05-09 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS—LAST EVENING.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on tho woolsack
at five o'clock.

RITUALISM.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY asked where the report
of the Royal Commission on Ritualism was, and if it had
been ai,nouneA some days ago ?
The Earl of MALMESBURY said that it had not yet all
been sent to the printer. (Laughter.)

NON-ENACIiiENT OF THE APPROPRIATION.

ACT IN VICTORIA.

Lord LYVEDEN said that it was with the utmost
difficulty, so much was the public mind occupied with
other exciting topics, that he could arrange to bring on this
important matter. lie might perhaps be permitted to state
what was the position of the colony of Vict wia with
regard to the mother country. It was first ma le a
separate .colony in 1850. In 1861 Sir Cherie, Darling,
who was then governor, introduced a bid called the Ap-
propriation Act. A long discussion t iok place upon the
subject, and ended in th,. recall of that governor. lie lied
served 18 years, and ho wished as far as possible to show
how much ho was entitled t_ consideration in the matter.
It would be remembered that the G'wernment took from
him the 611111 of .£20,000, and Sir Charles acted with the
greatest propriety. He courted the fullest inepiiry into
the matter. Sir Cteirles comes home, and enters into a
correspondence with the noble lord the Secretary of State
for the Colonies. He proposes that ho should have a perma-
nent pension, or that there should be given to him another
appointmeLt, or that the money given to hint by the
colony should be deposited until a thorough investigation
had taken place, but this the noble lord refused to
comply with. It was stated that no colonial go vernor
should receive pecuniary consideration from the people of
the colony during his term of office. It further was
stated that no colonial governor should, when ho quit-
ted his office, receive any present from the people
of the colony over which he might have ruled.
It would have been far more advantageous that
Sir Charles should have accepted the £2,000 at once, and
quitted the service. He was a man of 60 years of age,
and he would have had about £lO,OOO more than by re-
maining in office for another throe years. The noble duke
(Buckingham) succeeded the Earl of Carnarvon as Secre-
tary of State for the Colonies. It was alleged by Sir 11. Sutton
iu brief to his grace that the Legislative Assembly had
not discussed the merits of this vote. Why, they had
been discussing nothing else then this vote to Lady Dar-
ling. it was well known and in everybody's mouth. The
noble duke upon this abstained from expresing any opi-
nion, but contents himself with commending the conduct
of the Governor. He considered that the noble duke did not
submit thoroughly his own opinions to the governor of the
colony. How stood the question? The Legislative Assembly
seemed of much the same mind as before the election had
taken place. Ile had seen in the newspapers that the
Ministry had resigned, that showed the bad effect
of the measures taken by the noble duke. If
he had been more explicit they would have
known what to do. What he wanted now to
know of the noble duke was the course about to be pur-
sued. He should ask for the correspondence on the sub-
ject of the non-enactment of the Appropriation Act. Tho
noble lord then commented upon the inconsistency of the
instructions which had been given by the noble duke tont°
Government of the colony. Ho considered that the Secre-
tary of State ought to have been most explicit in the
matter.

The Duke of BUCKINGHAM said that ho quito agreed
with the noble lord that the question was of the
utmost importance, and affected th 3 whole of tho colonial
interests of this country. The ono portion of the subject
affected the interests of the Colonial Government of the
various countries, and the other the honour and dignity of
the officers of the colonial service. On the one side
they bad a distinguished Governor of the Crown, whose
sere Ices were much valued, and to whom a grant was
about to be made. He thought there could be no doubt of
the impropriety of this grant.
After a short discussion the subject dropped, and their
lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—LAST EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at 4 o'clock.
EDUCATION IN SCOTLAND.

In reply to Admiral ERSKINE,
The LORD-ADVOCATE said it was not the intention
of
the present session.
moisure on the thesub-
ject
of G
Bo
ScotchviteErnEmcean-t EducationLtoo insng anylN THE
Ann
y.

Mr. IIAYTER asked the Secretary of State for War
whether, having regard to the increased danger to life
from the use of breech-loaders in the hands of soldiers
either insane or of intemporAte habits, as evidenced
by the recent occurrences at Horfield Barracks, near
Bristol, .he would undertake to advise with his Royal
Highness the Field-Marshal Commanding-in-Chief as to
the propriety of withdrawing the 20 rounds of ball cart-
ridge now in the po3sessiou of all non-commissioned offi-
cers and men of the British army, and of serving out the
same to the troops on parade when about to proceed on
military duty ?

Blr i.rAKINGTON said he had not had an opportu-
nity of consulting the Commander-in-Chief on the subject,
but ho might take that opportunity of saying that he did
not think that one crime, however atrocious, would be
sufficient to justify the doing of that which
would be looked upon as a slur upon th whole British
army. The soldiers had ha 1 the quantity of ball cartridge
in their possession from time iminetairial, and at present
ho saw no reason why it should be withdrawn from their
care. (Hear, hear.)

THE SPRINGBOK.
In reply to Mr. BENTINCK,
Lord. STANLEY said the papers referring to the con-
demnation of the cargo of the Springbok wore now under
the consideration of the law officers of the Crown, but ho
hoped to be able to produce them. very shortly.

PAY OF THE ARNIY.
Mr. P. WYNDII.A.:if moved that, in the opinion of this
house, it would be advantageous and convenient to substi-
tute a system of weekly in lieu of daily payments to those
non-commissioned officers and soldiers of the army whose
previous conduct might warrant the extension of this in-
dulgence.

Sir J. PARINGTON said the subject.was ono entirely
within the discretion of his Royal Highness the Com-
mander-in-Chief, and therefore he could not interfere in
the matter.

The motion was then withdrawn.
PUBLIC BUSINESS
—THE SCOTCH REFORM

Mr. GLADSTONE BILL.
said it would be for the convenience
of the house if the right hon. gontloman would state the
order he proposed to take the public business on Monday
next. Supply stood first, and after that the Scotch Reform
Bill stood for a second reading, but the hon. member
for Liverpool had a motion previous to the house going
into committee of supply which would occupy at least two
or three hours. The discussion .on the estimates would
doubtless occupy some considerable time, so that it did
not seem that the Scotch Reform Bill would be considered
until a very late hour, a circumstance that would he
highly inconvenient if the orders were adhered to.
Mr. DISRAELI said ho had just then been speaking to
a right hon. gentleman on the subjoct. He did not think
that the Scotch Reform bill ought to bo taken at a late
hour, and therefore ho proposed to place it the socond in
order on Thursday, the Bouudery Bill standing first for
that evening.

Mr.CRAWFORD thought such an important measure as
the Scotch Reform Bill ought not to be placed second on
the paper.

Ur. DISRAELI thought the best thing he could do at
present was to say the Scotch bill would not bo brought
forward on Monday, and to defer any future arrangement
until after that day.
INFECTIOUS DISEASES.

Sir J. C. JEItVOISI moved that an bumble address bo
presented to her Majesty, praying that she will be graci-
ously pleased to cause such inquiry to bo instituted into
the spread of disease by infeztion as may tend to chock
legislation and action in cases unsupported by evidence.
Mr. LIDDELL seconded the motion.
THE NEW FORTIFICATIONS.
Mr. O'BEIRNE made a lengthy speech, arraigning the
plan on which the new fortifications are being constructed,
He recounted a long series of experiments both on the
fortifications and the iron shields to be mounted on them,
justifies further outlay at pre-
sent,from which he maintained that we have not reached that
point
aonfd Inowlodgewhich
concluded
with a resolution for the addition of
two members of Parliament and a second civil engineer to
the War-office committee on fortifications, all outlay cn
them being suspended till the committee's rcport had been
received.

Supported by Col. STEPS sad Aldermen
LuSK.Th motion was

Mr. OSI3O:EINE vigorotely tittottbtea tho expeudituro
on fortifications ea thn Most profligate within hiS expo:-
tl• r
ttbi_ectihiMtrni 'Otiotttit
teffectual defence for our harbours. Maid floating
riente, and complained that the original plaii had hobii
ilatrtte6rdiesyi.o4 f
Admitting that the present Government was not respon-
Lible for the damnosa hxredita3 to whfoll it Ind siteendotti
ho pressed on them the ptopriet4of eloSina: thO 6ritiArti.ft!,3
and giving up tit° Works all,ofrelliWi'i
to ttdd two tiNb,lllo§ of th 3 hot.U6 to the War ofiloe Cons-
Withal 110 strongly objected;

Sir HA repeated An OPEc,fori feci ti It tit,
Moroi thii,t the f.3ititNikti :.cre of no use but to guide
tltd Okbrily Into the harbour; but the present Government
was not responsible for the fortifications, nor could they
stop works which were nearly completed when they came
into office. As to the floating batteries, the r,ih.ioit for
that purpose in the original estituttto bed been struck out
of it by the House of Commons. He intimated that the
Government would not object to add a civil engineer to
the committee, but saw nothing to be gained by employing
two members uf the house.

Mr. SAMUDA argued that these forts wore useless, as
in these days €f steam navigation it Would no longer be
necessary to maintain Portsmouth and Plymouth in time of
war as nayal arsenals. So long as we retained templets

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