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London, England, 1844-02-23 00:00:00

for, a fortnight his motion to call the attention of the
llottse to, the: operation of the treaty of commerce with
Turkey, upon the commercial interests of this countryt
Mr. LABOUCLIERE said he should let his motion—
" That an humble address, be presented to her Majesfj.
representing to her Majesty the great importance to this
country of-the .trade , with the empire of the Brazils,
and humbly praying her Majesty
..,t1). adopt OClnielsiures
as may appear bestcalculated to maintain linilimffrove
the commercial relations between the United Kingdom
and the Brazils"—stand over to this day fortniiht.
" Mr; NV44,L4,.VEJ,ilowise p6gtpone4,,his, motion for a
Select Committee to inquire into the administraiion of
-the crimind laVAWSt,Otland,Atiakfat as relates_ to the•
prevention of crime, the reclaiming. of offenders, and
thejefkcidzky of pnriishmentS-4nd_er the prestUt Systetil.
IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT.. .

Mr. MIME moved for a reti rn. of the number of per-
sons in prison for debt in the gaols 'of London, Middle-
hex, and Surrey, and the amount of -the deb.ts for wl4O
they were confined,elased undersums of IL, 51:,=101, and
501.—Ordered. . ,

--T ----7 t• :.- TAHITI—FRANCE. ~ • ,- - 7 ,
. Sir :G'EORGE .Gll'gY said he had aAtiestion to put
to the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir. F. - Peel), which was of
dongiderableimpOrta'nee. , . It had,beenireported for a day
or two past that the French Admiral, off the island of
Tahiti, had.taken possession of it ,in the named Frence.
He had already alluded to the question ; and. since he
had done set_ the. subject had assumed a very, painful
aspect, and:had nO. doubt attracted the notice of her
Majesty's :Government. Full -and apparently most
authentic accounts had now appeared, in the public
paper's, stating that' the Freneh,protectorete had tereni.
natedthat the- island had been taken .pesSessiOn of, by
the French stationed ..off there*, and that the native
Queen hiul been forcibly deposed. •He , wished to ask
the Right Hon. Baronet, it the Government had received
any information on this :subject, :and if -so, whether he
could, consistently.' with his sense of duty, put the-House
in possession of that infOrmation.?—(flear,.hear.) .
-Sirit..PEEL felt obliged, ,for the . private intimation,
given to him by the Right Hon. Baronet, of his inten-
tion to put this queition. -When the question was phi to
hire the other" night, accounts appeared the next day,
stating the facts now adduced by the, Right,..Hon.taro-,
net. Since that period; it vessel had arrived—probably:
~
the same vessel - which -brought- the - early --in-
formation alluditt te-L-bringing full.diSpatehes from,.
`the ' British 'authorities in the island .of Taf
hid: to the Governinent at' r he.rne.. :He' . believed.
the accounts were .received, , : Ile believed Abet' the
Ereifeli- Admiral ' in' those . seas. had, taken possession
of the island of Tahiti, and that the native Queen. had
been deposed.--(Hear, hear.) .All he. could at present
,
.say upon the stibject was, that he greatly;lamented what
=had taken place.—(Loud 'erica - of " Hear, hear," from
'eVery part of,the,liotitie.)' He. :bid "nd:rekiien .et pre-,.
'sentto believe thetwhat• had taken place was ;with the:
. .
previous sanction or under instructions sent out. by the .
French
_OovernwOht.77-(4*.) :pot ' the Government
had put itself into communiCatiOn.with •Erance7iiiiiiii-the"
sebject and, under all the circnnistances. of: the case, he
theughtit better to say no More' at that -moment, and
he :doubted.not the House would approve this course.
He would take, the first opportunity, ' when he could
speak with propriety; to give' to the : House - every
niformitiori upon 'the subject which he might be
.able
to de.--(Hear,hear.) . ... ''
' . 'GAMING' AND. SPORTS-COMMITTEE.
At kheireqneat 'of - Mr, More -oTerrali, and :with -the
sanction. -of .Sir- Robert Peel,- Mr. Martin , Blake was
placed upon this Coiriiinitee.. in the rOom Of Mr. Mime,
Who voluntarily- Seceded from it, in order that an 'lrish
Member might, be. attached to it. ; . _
' ' '' " ' 11i-AsTtit AND. :SERVANT.
' Mr. MILES brought up a. Bill :for the: amendraent,of
the laws relative to master and-servants, which was read
a' first time.' '- - • . . • -.- . -
•
' Lord- CersinsTs'and‘ Mr. -POwiks. severally-postponed-
Motions...till, another day; in ',Order to.give precedence
to the adjeurned,debete en Ireland., : - .. '- ' '
On the inotion. that the Order ..of the Day, for re-
sliming the adjourned debate be read, . .
• Sir R. PEEL said it'Veas itthiSable that some arrange-
ment should be Made respecting the termination of the
'debate. -They were now approaching the close of a
fortnight since its commencement,- and it was impossible-
to . foresee,_ from the `aspect it at present presented
when it would lie brought to a conclusion.:: He was
unfortunately in the position of being one of the speak-
ers, and he was. perfeetly ready
~to make: eny.arraiige-
Ment ors the subject., _He wished -to learn -whether it
was intended that the.debate should,end tonight.
1 Several Hon Members On the Opposition aide of the
House rose_ and, exelaimed7—" To-morrow , night," The
Right Hon. Bart. then sat dowp.., - .
• On-the Speaker putting the-, question, Sir Valentine
Blake rose several times to address, the House,:-but,-the
'order not having been read, he_ was compelled to sit down
Maid ninth laughter. .c - ' • . - ' -,. -- •.,
StA,TE OF IRELAN
"Day
DEBATE. '
, .
The Order- of the Day for the commencement of the
adjourned debate having been read, - '
Mr: MAURICE OVONNELL . said. he should riot'
- - . ,•
detain the' House long,' and' e should confine himself
at much'as possible to certain statements -Made by: the
Attorney-General for Ireland. At the commencement
of' his'speech the Right- lion.- and Learned Gentleman
thought proper to attack the traversers with respect to.
their conduct'' towardithe ' Government reporter' Mr.'
Bond 'Hughes_ Now, the case with respect to Mr. Bond
Hughes stood thu6:—lle lodged an information that
at qs -• ceitsiiri. dinner - at .- Mullaglimast,. he. saw - Mr..
Barrett,..and. he stated that :Mr. Barrett spoke there.:
-He 'further swore that heafterwards saw. Mr. Barrett at
at meeting -held in : Abbey-street, and.that the day after
the proclamation _against. the meeting at Cloet.
tarf, he ''saw. Mr. 'Barrett on the • evening of.
that - day. at . a dinner •at : the - tßotunda, and
that Mr. Barrett spoke at that dinner. On. the
ith or ' 1 fith; of -October the traversers attended
4 . .. ..
at . the chambers of Mr. Justice - lurton, to.
ptit Site bail. '•- Ainong• • those • traversers was Mr.-.
.11sTrett, and kumong the 'parties -attending' was the--
grown witness, Mr. Bond Hughes.. Mr. Hughes went
tbere for the express purpose of correcting an error as
to' the„naine'' of the traversers; the Rev. Mr. Tierney
and the ' Rev.' . Mr.. Tyrrell. :He then saw- Mr.
Barrett, and. in the: course of; his evidence, stated
that heneither 'sit* Mr: Berrett -at the Rotunda nor at
the Meeting at Mullaghinast. Subsequently ii summons
was served on Mr.. Bond Hughesto apPear at thepolice-
Ofice, to answer a complaint of wilful- and corrupt per,
,jery,' but 'Mr. Kenn-ins never ,alluded to -the statement
made by Mr. 'Hughes; at the Judge's_*.ehambers ; but
suttered, him . to' remain- . under ~ the . impute
tion of ferjury. • On' the' 3d or- 4th day. of term
a Writ of • niciadizinas was applied. for. . No ,men-
tion was made, on the •part of the -Crown . soli-
citor, of the fact that Mr. Bond Hughes had committed
at iniatake. Now he (Mr. INL O'Connell) thought they
could not entirely acquit Mr.-Bond Hughes. for allowing
pplica-
se g'ravett charge as perjury to -hang over him, when it
Was obviously . his duty to take the ' first oppor •
Amity. of Meeting : it. But he was .a Crown witness,
and- it must -be supposed that he . was in . -the
hands'f6cewhetherr s - oc
contented
'theii).
tweni
wits
swcustomary
fthemselves, officerstom i
t•ri o.r.f ,
t9t he, . ,
t r
granti
tCh r or l
suche is
resisting
ii n
rule;.tThosel he e
a
i
on - for_ -the 'mandamus moved for on . the part .of thg
officer of the :Crown,. felt privileged to oppose it. The
ight Hon. and Learned Gentleraan• had spoken-in terms
most laudatory of the Irish Bar,..and 'he (Mr. M. O'Con-
nell) thought it equal to that or any . other country, but
still he could not help reiterating . the question put by
the lion. Member for Worcester, as 'to ' whether - the
1
similar circumstances as the Irish Attorriey-Gencral had
done, • Ile (Mr. M. O'Connell) •would ask- the' Right
Hon. and LeareedGentlernan, the Attorney-General for
y
England, how he.wduld have assertkesifeh aprerogative?
thaavte rtaiieer so,
radnlndtrhey practice allowedia.
ithegh t t
p,chargefio, bltiot
hiei a, nasg -clii overd
r. BOnd Hughes from• the 16th of October until, he-
as. examined as a 'witness on the trial, when, in-
lie course.. of ' cross-examination, it was elicited
rem'. him 'that' he" had . committed • a . -mistake:
e thought-the onlje:hiame that could bo attached to -
Ir,, Bond Hughes was, that he allowed the matter. to,
eat' In the hands of the Crown solicitor instead of taking
t up himself and 'Placing it in its proper light before the'
bliblic. The moment-it was-placed in its-proper, light-
eforethe public, that 'moment the obloquy 'which had.
een' east apep. 3f.r.:_•,Hilies ceased. 'The Right' Hon
and -Learned, Gentleman, (the -Attorney-General. for.
Ireland) had alluded much in his speech to the caption
bf. the inarctinent; and, tried to explain- his Motives
or refusal. He' (Mr. M.' O'Connell) was' sure .' that'.
[i
t. . was as ,unusual to' refuse. an - application of this
ature in Ireland as-- it was in England: When
he matter Was brought, before Mr. Justice Perrin, he at
once concurred in the :propriety of allowing the tra-
versers to haVe a-caption of" the indictinent: Again,
the traversers being allowed to traverse, a four -days'
rule :Wee moved,
.but the Right Hon. and Learned
Gentleman demurred, and -eventually, after- Mitch' dif-
fieuitY, the traversers suoceede-d'in 'getting the rule:
When•• the Chief Justice asked the Attorney-General
Crownreplied, -
Attorney-General for England would
.haVe acted under
The Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman (the Attorney-
General for
.Ireland).liad cOmplaini3d-that the' traversers,
through, their, agents, had resorted to every meanS'—eieti
the most frivoloes—to procure. delay, and frustrate
the objects and ends qf ' the prosecution, but-he- (Mr.
IM. O'Connell)' contended-that the interests 'of the tra-
verses i...erati .
mpvely deniended thateotirse to be pursued,
and every step which had been taken had been taken
according' -to the strict letter Of the law, - In. Eng-
land the - practice 'had invariably been -to ' affOrd
every facility tothe traversers for preparing their defence-
,by supplying a caption of the indictment, and every
other dOcttmet'4• opy. might' ' requite. -Ile should
next 'alltide to another point in thoSe trials:. when 'the
bills
_were before the -grand jury 'it • was proposed to
alter it misnomer,: and upon Mr: M‘Donough resisting
the application,-; the.. Attorney General' ..called upon
M'Donough, who was a Queen's COunsel, to pro.
duce his license to' act as Counsel , for the traversers.
He ...thought such. a demand did - not; ' at least,
tend, to . raise' the, Right Hon. • and ' Learned Gen-
tleman',ln the - estimation 'of tho Irish bit.
The Act of Parliament. provided that no person who was
not on the list should be placed thereon, unlesS
he himself gave notice of his name not appearing on the.
list.' And the Act of Parliament further provided' that
no person's" name, which was' already an the list should
be taken off without notice being , given to that
person.
.. The. course pursued by the traversers
eas .therefore strictly,:legal. - The Right Ilon. and
Learned. Gentleman, the Attorney-General for Ireland,
last night, when he stated that. the attorneys for the
traversers . were admitted:. to examine the - notices'' of
objection_:_ to :the jurors, omitted, to state' that
other attorneys and counsel, by whom retained
the traversers knew not,. were 'in attendance to object
to any nemestlie traversers- might propose to be placed
'on the lists. . They managed their, affairs very well, for
the traversers never could ascertain by whom they-had
been retained. When the Attorney-General last night
denounced the conduct of Mr. - Alahoney, he omit-
ted to state this tfaqt, that counsel attended on