The Sun.
London, England, 1868-07-04 00:00:00

THE CONDUCT OF THE HOUSE.

The Earl of MALMESBLTItY said that he rose with
relation to the conduct of the noble lords opposite in leav-
ing, the house as they did last night. He did not
think that there was in tho recollection of the
oldest member of the house a similar scene.
He would not say that it was disrespectful to the Gevern-
ment but to tae House, and it was not discussing the mat-
ter with thatequanirnity which ought to distinguish them.
Why, after admitting the amendment of Government on the
Scotch bill on Tuesday, should the question be brought on
again last night ? Wily should the Opposition members
leave the house in the way they did? He said it as solemnly
as he could, both before and after the noble lords left the house,
that the Government did not intend to deceive the house
at all. He would read them a letter from the Prime Mi-
nister, in which he stated that ha read with astonishment
the scene which took placein the house of Lords last night.
He asserted that his statement was distorted, and that all
he thought to express was, that he thought that, in re-
viewing the business of the house, he had done
with the two points in discussion. He would now
explain what the Government inten led to d). They had
put off the Boundary Bill and the Scotch Reform Bill till
Monday next, and they must ask their noble friends
not to insist on the amendments of which
they had given notice. They had been long
taunted with a desire to remain in office from vulgar and
mercenary motives; therefore, they wished to have a
general election as soon as possible, and they had so
managed matters that it could take place in November
next. They must remember that the registration must
under the Reform Bill take place by the 20th of this
month, and that four days' clear notice mu t be given.
Then the Boundary and Scotch Bills mast be passed
and receive the Royal assent by Friday next, and there-
fore they must resist all amendments to them. (Hear,
hear.)

Earl RUSSELL said that their only comphint was
against the Ministers of the Crown, and that the conduct
of the Opposition was justified by the unusual conduct of
the Government, who might have proposed an adjourn-
ment to ascertain what in reality the First Minister of tho
Crown did say. _ _

Earl BEAUCHAMP said that the Opp esition peers had
left the House because they coasilered that the Govern-
ment had been guilty of a breach of faith. Now he must de-
precate the fact that no retractation was made. T hey had
not thought fit to withdraw the imputation on the prin-
ciple, he supposed, that if ono threw mu I enough some of
it would stick. Ho animadverted upon the fuss that had
been made by the noble lords opposite as to Reform, and
the little that they had done. (Ironical cheers.)
_

The Duke of MONTROSE said that he did not think
for one moment that there had been any breach of faith,
and if he had he should not have brought any
amendment forward. The accusation appeared to him so
uufounde I that he wondered how they could sit there and
not acknowledge it.

The Marquis of SALISBURY said that they were endea-
vouring to decide a question which the IDuse of Com-
mons ought to decide.. if Mr. Disraeli had given a plede,e
perhaps his followers were ignorant of it. He thought
it was quite a question for the II Jug) of Cinimens;

The LORD CI-UN OELLOR said th•it the greatest s -
dative that the house could have was that when an ansry
discussion arose for one side of the hens.) t) walk out.
The Earl of DEBBY stated that during a long experi-
ence he bad never listened to a debate with so much re-
gret. The discussion had been conduct:d with much un-
necessary warmth. After the explanation of the Govern-
merit, noUle lords opposite ought to exi rea their regrit
at having imputed motives of bad faith Any other course
would be ungenerous and unworthy.

The
_Earl of HARROWBY attributed the original
breach of faith to the Liberal party in the House of Corn-
mlus, who, being dissatisfied with the conclusions of an
hupprtant commission, insisted on referring the bill to a
select committee, and so made the question cne of party
and local fooling.
The subject thsn dropped.

On Earl RUSSELL moving that the House go into
committee on the Compulsory Church Rates Abolition
Bill,

The Marquis of SALISBURY invited attention to the
fact that several provisions had been originally inserted
to: the protection of the Church, not .bly those restraining
a Nonconformist churchss ardeo from administering a
voluutszy rate, and for the compulsory collection of the
contributions promised to the rate.

The LORD CHANCELLOR explained that the object
of the committee had been to affect the existing parochial
machinery as little as possible, so that in many parishes
church rates would go on just as they now did, withiut
the power of enforcing payment. The clauses refereed
to by Lord Salisbury were plausible in appearance, but
there would be a risk of the whole system falling to the
ground if there were a great disturbance of the existing
system of drawing to rigid a line b,tween Churchmen
and Dissenters, and even compelling those who were
favourably disposed to the Church to separate from it.
The Archbishop of CASTERRURY concurred in this

opiaion.
Tha Earl of DERBY still retained his objections to
the bill; but as their lordships hal accepted its principle,
he trusted it would at last satisfactorily settle the ques-
tion.

After soma further &Auto, participa,od in by the Arch-
bishop of York, the Bishop of Oxforj, Lord Lyvedcn,
Lord Halifax, and other peers,
The bill was passed through committee.
The Salmon• Fisheries Bill passed its final stage, and
their lordships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS-LAST EVENING.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at two o'clock.
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA ACT AMENDMENT

BILL.

Sir S. NORTIICOTE said that as this. bill stood for
committee after the Metropolitan Foreign Cattle 3larket
Bill, and as the principle of the bill had already boon dis-
cussed, he suggested that the bill should go through com-
mittee without further opposition, and the nosy clausos
might be proposed upon bringing up the report.

METROPOLITAN FOREIGN CATTLE MARKET

BILL.

On the motion for going into committee on this bill, the
object of which, it will be recollected, was to establish a
foreign cattle market at the river side, near Barking, at
which foreign cattle alone were to be sold and slaughtered
and thence conveyed to the metropolis,
Mr. CORRANCE rose to reply to the speech of Mr. M.
Gibson, and denied that he was influenced by anything
but the future good in supporting the measure. He thought
that if they ware to wait until a general law imposing
legal restrictions on foreign cattle were passed they would
have to wait long enough. He denied that the passing
of the measure would tend to stop the supply of beef,
which was now by no means so common in Salford,
Manchester, and Birmingham as the right hon. gentle-
man (Mr. M. Gibson) had pointed out. He fully agreed
that the interest of the consumers ought to bo consi-
der ed, as those consumers had to pay for restrictions of
all kinds.

Mr. GLA DSTONE thought the pressing forward the
present bill at the end of the session was entering on an
endless controversy. The noble lord, in the course of his
speech, appeared to condemn the trade in foreign cattle
as at present carried on, and ho could only say that he
thought the endeavour to pass such a law as that now
under the consideration of the house for London, without
passing statutory restrictions for the government of the
cattle trade at the other ports of the country, was of itself
quite sufficient to delay the consideration of the present
measure for an indefinite time. (Hear.) He thought
the attempt to prevent the reintroduction of the cattle
plague by such arrangements as the measure proposed
quite useless, and he was also much opposed to the pre-
sent bill, as it appeared to him to be the desire of the noble
lord to set aside executive discretion in favour of state-
tory law. Another point that had been passed over by the
noble lord was that of the finance of the new market. It
had been stated that the outlay to establish the market
was put down at £300,000, but as it had been admitted
compensation would have to be also considered, ho thought
that the cost of the scheme would be more likely to
amount to half a million. If the public were to become
speculators in slaughter-houses, he thought they ought to
know where the half million of money required was to
come from, and in what manner the revenue was
to be raised to pay the interest on the sum
required. (Hear, hoar.) He hoped the noble lord would
explain that matter to them when he next addressed them.
It was said the Corporation of London might become the
parties to carry out the provisions of the bill, but suppos-
ing they declined thou commissioners would be appointed
by the Crown, but that showed to him most strongly that
in the event of any deficiency it would have to be made
tip from the national resources. The ratepayers of
the metropolis had rightly or wrongly got it into their
heads that the passing of the bill would increase the price
of meat, anl_it would require very strong arguments to
convince them them that such was not the case. (Hear,
hear.) Giving the Government every credit for a desire
to increase and cheapen the supply of good and whole-
seine food to the public, rather than an attempt to revert
to protection, notwithstanding Vie little slips of the
tongue that now and then were ma 13 by lion. gentlemen
opposite, he hoped they wean net per3wore with this bill
before all matters of detail were clearly set forth and
settled.

Mr. HENLEY supperte I the bill. Th 3 right hon. gen-
tleman had carefully gnarled hitn3elf frotu saying one
word as to whether there ought or ought not to be a sopa-
ratamarket —(hear, hear)—and also why they should not
take a step in the right direction - (hear, hoar)—provided
the bill was a go).1 lie thought it a pity tlitt
the difficulty of the matter sh mld be increased by the
asiertioas made on the other side of the house that
the bill was brought forward for electioaeering parpJses.
(Rear, hoar.) He thought thu bill was calculated to effect