The Sun.
London, England, 1850-10-19 00:00:00

market good?—Yes. There is a street 60 feet wide,
Victoria-street. The carts never need stand in that
street, because there is a 50-feet street on the north, a
50. feet street on the south, and a 50-feet street on the
east; and, moreover, it is proposed that on the day of
the great market, when there may be 5,300 or 5,400
bullocks brought to the market, as there are far less
sheep brought at that time, the bullocks would stand
where this line of pens is [pointing it out]; and when
the market is not held, the carts that would be waiting
upon the dead-meat market could stand between those,
and they would be entirely out of the public
thoroughfare.
2207. Do you consider that space for the carts, with-
out Victoria street, to be sufficient for the carts that
would come to such a market?—l do; with the facility
that could be obtained in the market. It would be very
desirable, and it would be the anxious wish of the Cor-
poration, that no carts should stand in Victoria street.
Mr. Taylor—We were anxious in taking up the ques-
tion to make it as comprehensive as possible, believing
that if there were objections to Smithfield Market, there
were equal objections to Newgate Market in its present
crowded state. Consequently we wished to provide
ample accommodation fur the dead-meat market as well
as for live cattle.
2208. Is the slope of the proposed site uniform ?—lt
is quite gradual.
2209. Will you state what you considered were the in-
conveniences in the present markets which it was your
object to remedy ?—I think it must be obvious, that the
principal inconvenience from the present market is the
want of accommodation, the want of space.
2210. Do you speak of Smithfield Market, or of
Newgate Market, or of both?—Of both. With refer-
ence to Smithfield, the avenues to the public passing
through aro most inconvenient, which is obviated by the
plan we now place before you.
2211. Is there any other inconveniences which you
think this plan would remedy ?--Another objection to
the present market is that the cattle can use the market
till three o'clock in the day. But we think that objection
might be remedied, by having the market closed at an
earlier hour. And there are certain regulations we
should propose, which we think we should be able to
place before the Commissioners in such a manner as they
would approve.
2212. Do you get rid of the riisgsdroves?—Entirely;
inasmuch as the room would be sufficient to admit of the
full number with ties.
2213. Should, you have sufficient accommodation in
the lairs, if the market were closed early in the day to
accommodate those that remained ?—I think it very
probable that we should have sufficient accommodation
for those that might remain after the hour of closing the
market. '
2214. If the market were closed at an early hour you
would have an increased quantity left—would these lairs
in that case be 'sufficient think if the trade were
aware that the market would be closed at an early hour,
they would be induced to make their purchases earlier
than they do at present. I believe it is in evidence that
many ouyers remain, lingering in the market with a
view to get the cattle at a reduced price.
2215. Then you contemplated that those who pur-
chased cattle late in the day would drive them away ?
Assuredly. One part of our recommendation would be
to make a charge for cattle remaining there after a cer-
tain time. Supposing seven o'clock to be the hour at
which the cattle should leave, if they remain there after
that time there should be a certain charge per hour af-
terwards, so as to offer an inducement to the buyer and
the seller to remove their cattle as early as possible. We
believe that inconvenience may have arisen to the public
from the cattle being driven through the streets at a late
hour of the day. And, therefore, wo believe that we
should be consulting the convenience of the public if, in
any arrangements we make, we were to adopt some mode
by which the cattle would not bo in the streets in the
middle of the day.
2216. Would some of the regulations to which you
advert have reference to that point7—Certainly.
2217.' Can you state whether the Committee who
have considered this plan entertain any doubt as to the
insufficiency of the present accommodation in Newgate
Market, both as to the space and as to the approaches?
—We are satisfied that there is a great want of
easisfied
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modation at present in Newgate Market; that the space
there for the objects of the market is insufficient for the
purpose.
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Indeed, I am not sure whether it would not be sufficient
for the sale of all the dead meat which would be neces-
sary to be sold in London.
2219. Do you speak with reference to the present
exigencies or the future?—For the present, and, indeed,
I may say for the future. When you look at the space
of 34 acres, it would certainly be twice as much as the
space occupied by all the houses at present used in the
sale of meat in the neighbourhood of Newgate Market.
2220. What would be the arrangements contemplated
with respect to the slaughter-houses; are the slaughter-
houses to be the property of the Corporation, and to be
let to the public?—ln carrying out this comprehensive
scheme we should make the slaughter-houses part and
parcel of the whole scheme, so that we should have a
power of control over them. In erecting these slaughter-
houses we should of necessity clear away a considerable
portion of bad property, now occupied for slaughter-
houses and houses of that description. By having a
control over the slaughter-houses we should be enabled
to erect them upon the most scientific plan, where there
would be as little objection as possible, and I apprehend
that upon such a plan there could be no possible objec-
tion upon any sanitary considerations.
2221. It is proposed that the slaughtering should be
carried on by officers of the Corporation, or that the
space should merely be let to private butchers for their
use, subject to certain regulations ?—lt is proposed that,
subject to cei tain regulations, the slaughter-houses
should be let for the purposes of the trade.
2222. You contemplate doing: away with all other
slaughter. hutpes except those 7—That would be a very
essential regulation if it could be carried into effect di-
rectly or indirectly.
2223. What is the difference of level between the dead-
meat market and the top of Long-lane ? Mr. Bunning
—About 24 feet. This plan is based upon the assump-
tion that Holborn-hill is to be raised to a certain extent.
A plan has been laid before the Corporation for some
time to raise the levels of Holborn-hill, and get rid of
that acclivity that we have at present. It was suggested
to raise the level 12 feet 6 inches; and if this plan were
carried out, instead of raising
it 12 feet 6 inches, about 10
feet 6 inches would be advisable, because it would give
us a greater fall here. By raising the foot of Hol-
born-hill 12 feet 6 inches, the gradient would be only 1
in 45. A waggon might almost trot upon it, and all
the gradients, east, west, north,
and south, would be 1
in 45.