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A a better ,- • .t e 0 e rd mean to pro- ,f in conclusion, said, that he should -vote. for'. the motion
tit ,de of esiplsyirent for. ;hose children ? . of his Noble Frier& '
taea"ideare taken befty--c theParlisnaentary Commit- -Lord HOWICK said he did not
.knoW of.any'occasion
t;b,-tZecits thst thousands- of
,thd, hert were picked.up, in on which he had. found so- much difficulty.in meking•ttp
a!si hoa
to
thea.police. as lest.e--(Hear, hear.) Let hi mind. how to. vote as upon the present.' Ten hours
t4ttaa:'l' the reports respeeting, the, employment.of . was no incoosidefable pOrtion of labour, at any-trade or
tisertea..7-3a.„.„14
ertict.mi, milliners.-. (Heareheer4 , If they in, i bueioess, for women and, children „ and when was added
Psiyment in mills and factories, they .1 to that the time
.employed ina going to and coining frem
i_altrl.tterr.e)_:e with emPloyment in the dr,•ssmakers- ' that labour, and the hours requisite ,for meale, a great
Na),"4,,!..t.'rintingshouse-square.-(llear, hear, and a inroad was made on. every twenty4our.-(Hear, hear.)
114'es ..`ney would-be reqiered to ' heal date for the On the other hand,' while pondering over the• truth of
atieg .70r.f. henra We% kit men Ware 'to,- labour apen-the 'these -thins, he. could not but reflect that, supporting
4tl:gilt. a'.oewepapra--(Hear, and a laugh.) He the amendinent. -of the - Noble Lord, he' was- very
• Nth that-theY, ought welt, to consider allf these things 'probably pursuing 'the • course which might' sooner
. .
f'f,,kt'eeers'yeYtaat't. "lite-4..0 legislate.-:(Elearaltear.). , He or . later reduce wages. ' For
to women
though ,
.their
a aeleaely-t..lie ,did net soy the Right •Ilon..Member legislation applied appareotly to women and
ti.•eeerit'iain his place ; but he hoped that - the Right ,children only, yet indirectly it Most certainly applied to
,17alitisa 'e,!llan.e.would acknowledge. that ho found the tadultsee-(lIe;ar, hear)-and they' would render •it prae-
,ltrists ~Pt the .workipg.ciassesin the, manufacturing ticallyitnpossible,for the mill to go on beyond . the time
Attl b-,.. "etter than he ex eked -Meat ) Much.as at which those women and children were employed.'-
the said of the Arcadian- Phappiness'`' ' -
is eaaael._ . ,
.(Hear, hear,) 'Then if that were true, and the opera,
~rit , ittural districts, . it. was,pliced upon record tires themselves \alit`, sought a ten houts'Bill admitted
r...,,,i4r,5,p.d...t0,a1e11eu5e, that many ef those who such 'Would be the result-the remark which had' fallen
alltfletfae4- freni, the agriculturalldistriets to the from. the Hon. Member for ManChestee,
,(Mr. M..Gih-
Rsti•eiatt:4,_t.
,deelered that ~thayi would prefer. trans- son) was. equally true, that if they adopted the limita-
-1,71%1 \ ,:','Fing..cpmpelled, to return to egricultare.---. lion, of adult labour
_With regard to factories, it was not
e.'"Xtre..e't- -a-ttlallon...Gantleniau, concluded. by reading easy. to: see . where that limitation was to stop- . The
iatthaaairom the report of Mr. Senior, who: stated question was not now whether they would.establish a
',lltisah;_atrilfaeturingpopulatieo wore in a better con- :prineiple or ' not. It • had- gone too far for this.
rattl,?ral and physical, than the agricultural, -end For whether the House approved the amendment or -the
Iterip terity was most strikin,g in :the girls.-:(MuCh original' 'Bill,' it 'had equally taken on itself to decide
le, tr,ra_ild,laegasea.). . . - :what number of hours -people ought to work daring the
likage tkih443,: WQ %TIM-. hoped the .11ouse would- ,day. The question was now really- reduced to , this-
-k . question from. ,party -and. irritating (pies- they had found it necessary to interfere by the pressure
litstatu eahoughathat its mats the-duty .of the: Leis ;of an over-ruling necessity, in ordet to declare what
!belie
Dr4teet those who could notprotect themselveea should,be the length of labour. to which a certain class
'llattst, ti,,ed that they might take • further steps in this of artisans should' be • subjected-whether it should be
4.114,th,?ut - injury,- to . the. manufacturing interest. tea or twelve lours- For his (Lord Howick's) part, then,
e titi;litton. Friend said that be entertained groat. he could not help saying that ten hours was as much as
kta9.114,0 l'gi.slating at all in referenCe IA adults. He that House ought to allow.-(Loud cheers.) .He had
1..., -la Itight..Hon. Friend should have, been the fully felt the foice of the' observations which
kia. t:.11, to urge that Objeetion' since he .himself -pro- had fallen:. from the :Right ' Honourable Baronet -(Sir
ie'lla • 'eslate in reference Ito females, 'including .1. Graham), but on.fairly weighitig the.' good - and the
I iluf.t$ealso . argued that the effect, of any public. evil ihe balance devil appeared to him to be in favour
le Ni couldnd would belie increase machinery. .Even of a twelve hours'. Bill, and therefoteheMuet vote against
itiitsiet,he the rase he did.not know that the would- it.. It had been said that if they took thiS decigion with
s ' irroo„l,gu'Y great injury on the parties concerned. respecttofactory labour they would be,.called upon to
sZlisera-uaity was -that. in : proportion as; machinery go.further. He, (Lord Howick) was not without fear
a.eytavcl. would there be ari-increaaed demand for- . that such would be the ease ; and they _Must deal with
ii.ta•er.
~Fes, andatherefore, illereaseavblPloyment;-•but it when it atose. ..•The origin of. the . evils which they
ticiiVPe demand was somewhat Jess ;than before, were now attempting to remedy Was, to be found in the
ts9.telailltained, that the workpeople would:Mit be, intense competition which-prevailed ; and he agreed with
efirsii•„,,c9tallsensatian for , this, evil.: .His: Right _Hon.' the 'Hen._ MeMher for :ISlancheSter (Mr. AL Gibson)
iplisir2,. of the lowering 'of wages as &Most serious that they •• would , not entirely remove those evils
LA ha' the ,proposed. st 411); . WhY, ill an interview unless they diminished this Competition of labour and
lik,i2 'tight Hon. Friend had had with :most intele capital, by enlarging ;the field for eniployment.---
ozlSions of that .elass.. to •which the -Bill would (Hear, hear.), This was only to be effected by breaking
Sj",lY. thVi3r• he had been assured that even if it appeared down those artificial barriers and. restrictions by which
trt3sa- ti, there would be some reduction in 'wages the labour and cepiter Were new hedged in and confined; and
s':lria tt e Were ready. to trim-inter an such risk, •be- unless they were prepared to do this, they must be pre-
ItiqiN at they woud- be :repaid by the 'relief Which pared to see that competition become greater and greater.
it'4,,e,;e'ql44, talTa,t9 them,,- trio.eall,y and: physically: Lie. feared they could not expect that Parliament would
aaseeajs since- it„Wria stated, in_ the, petitien of 300 do this
_at, present,, though. ultimately he was satisfied
OstiVata of the. West, Riding, that; no necessity iwhat- this 'would be the case.-(Hear, ' hear.) Therefore he
alae:ed for the present number of-hours... Ile could for one would take the only. step which could 'be
filg tia„lPreashis..regretathat hiss rtight Hon.. Friend apPlied, not that he looked' uPon. it as approach-
iii pehlat. it his duty ter .oppose •,this proposaL ing to .an - effectual remedy-; ..but. that until such
th ''tlen employed in factories , had. a. right. to could be.obtained, he felt bound to assist in any measure
altill.a.ttait the labour which.was bestowed should•not be by w=hich it might be hoped to palliate the evil. It cer-
tr;se II
ittnroa_ • ,
ngn a longer period than aas necessary; tairdy, did appear to him that in the absence of a real
Oret.riii period' was, lie would not profess to say, but remedy, they should at least adopt such checks as were
l4leli. t.the state of society in the manufacturing in their power ; and in that view it was that he was pre-
,J. rand etinitideriiig, the' eqUitY of this Claim,. he Pared to vote foa the measure of the Noble Lord (Ash-
Otta„'_ie•Yed th at much time wunld mit elapie before the ley) in preference to that of the Government.--(Hear.)
-ZtWat and Parliemeut weuld,arrive at-the curial, At the same time he must say that this and every ether.
4k, willereased Proteotionwasperemptorilydemanded. discussion on, the question had Made him feel how in-
ttai'ailiD said no matuain -that Houle had listened competent the .House was advantageously
.to deal
le leat°lle Lord who had introdticed_ the motion more with subjects of that . ' neture.--L(Heat, _ hear.) It
iettl'lalse2fi and he was certainly -bonndtosay -that all was,; he , thought deserving the consideration of
!;1iqh1,63. and all-hiss yttlpaihies were in faveur of the gentlemen on both sides .of the House, whether they
I„ktch . he - had • propeseda- (Hear, hear.) - .But could not meet the difficulty of. introducing regulations
kits came .to:- weigh, the consequeriecs of that for_ the guidance Of Certain 4.trades, by. . contriving some
ks-, '''s-.•'''Deil }he . loele '''' •
- ~-, , e interests " the Noble • 'Lord. was ad- those trades might be brougha-togethera and by which
kt,.. • :L. =hut, .to the • interests of the whole their arrangements might e enforced. It appeared to•
liTtta,ta: q thiseountry, he thought they could not him ::-(Lordakiewick) -the. • might. , consider - whether
la Noble Principle of ,interference to the extent which the great trades might n be organised, so that the
a kaa,.. "rd. carried it without: incurring the greet, interestsof both master, ea.-inert' mighabe - represented
14 .fil'6ibirtY' la h• - ' • tia_s eciu I.
_. ot as rmardc&the generaltnterests each bY 1-fS:own ' clue,' z nild"..thus-'regulations be
IhMa, :fltrY. and - the welfare Of !the -manufacturing made, by _mutual aunderstending . of the two
latiair,Ltalt was perfectly . impoisible to• listen • to classes,- -which .it _appeared to hurt that rarlia-
le ttet alt
.Of - the. Noble:- Lord, and - follow menu was unable to do with anything like advantage.
lelte. es;',ll_.gh. that course of., Misery and degrade.. He was the more impressed with this idea when he saw
itriea7h, he -had - traced,' 'Spreading ' over ,so the.way in which the• trades" unions had_worked. He
k „qe ri;ltti.°n Of their PotMlation, witliout7iVie.hing that admitted that,. in many- eases, those unions were clan-
ai't"le .le.l'"e„ Power of that Muse, to apply a remedy gerous. bodies. , They had, in fact, flourished and exere
let ase 44;3 evils.---(H ear, hear.) Butaweuld .any deed great powers in opposition to the law, but, looking
Nl'4' that they • could , apply a:. remedy ?-.-(Hear, at the manner; in, which they had- maintained them-
t.l,!?4sty 7 °III4 . any • one -• say. that it,inight ..not. most selyes:. and, had exercised their power, he could not but
teVasar.teggravate • the e'vils Which: they wished to conclude that they had: originated from a necessity for
01,4,i."if:-.!.tai% hear.) Why, the Noble Lord's argu- organisation which was felt by the trades themselves---=
titV', hoti.l,t . were -kooti Tor .anything,' was an meet- (Hear; hear)-and if they were so organised, 'would it
Vl,4tei 'P4 the. whole ri.i.;inufiteturinafasystem, and net be a. great advantage to have them,' instead of, .as
Satt'tisi kat? argument to change twelve into ten. at present, acting as_ bodies unrecognised by the law, and
kk, t 4 Outiesii3l49' Bill restore !,he. votaett, to those do- frequently exercising- their powers • by intinsidation
at lasey , their absence: from whieh.the.Nehle Lord --would -it not : be, he repeated, a '
.great ad-
kieildr deplored ? .. Would it restore thejnothur;to vantage
.to,• see them recognised by
working
and
Ni Nl4ll ?- Would it: enable.• her: to.•perform.those exercising powers over which, .not the classes
reakita„ 'lti!Si. the neglect Of, which -*he *Noble Lord only, but the empleyers "also, should have some powers
Vittilit"". the cause of so, MuchaillneSsi as well ...as of control ?-(Hear, hear.) ' &eh institutions might
ath,.......43:‘,:,. 'Would 'itl4top the; deteiieratiou of the afford nseful assistance` in enforcing' the observance of
't 'ltet; tc." :thcatif. they.. interfered with One -elaSs-of , such regulations as those which they were' now called on
ktlaterefe,s,` to* • could' - they' deny; the.l duty , to adoPt• He admittedthat if the Bill'Passedthey Would
Wal,aa'r'ng with all ? Tie could • ShOw• -' the be- establishing a principle for the future regulation of
_ , 111V,1?.-ritiEli,-, ten, &- ousatiti. times ::iiorse cases than factories, and of • other trades, whickthey must be pre-
..,___r_
!Plil'etqa%7- he. had pointed out.' lie 'Could- show' !Area to carrteturtner; mid he tratedthat-those. gen-
tl,i_ h 4_4 his own Conitittients,onebraneh of industry . demur who were more able to .come to a practical con-
ker parrintely liniited life .to a certain period.. .Yet elusion on this subject than he was, would endeavour to
a„, taat"ells'ai , were forced. into such employment, devisee some means, y Which-they might- be enabled-to
a"tatea 91ed - theMielVes , fOr the .temporar distal- meet the difficulties of this question.-(Cheers.)
t_ fed,-
they .suffered .h.i -- OW •ahnostY: certain Loill SANDON' would'aint `enter into any details on this
kts -aala
lat ea ear, hear.) • Yet :this, was one- of the sub- question.. On one point, however, he would obServe. Hon. '
II tkasalt, a which - the. Honourable.. Member- who. had : Gentlemen opposite had no right to say that the existence of
the corn-laws had rendered it necessary to legislate, upon this
liite'atata•esrBed the-Homo exhorted- gentlemen on his side
subjeet, far in the Countries in which no vorn-laws.existed, or ,
illt;'4i a 'r'mn entering upon he entreated them not
! b._,let -Pon what hecalled• a party and irritating sub-• at least where none existed for any practical purpose=--in Russia
and ,the United States, for. ir.istance-they much cona-
k;,7ty is;'(hal„ are hear.) . Why, it was not becauseit was piled to protect the labouring population by fpFtments. of
met '.lit•ii:',Kl irritating subject, it was because it. was •a , this .nature as they were in this country. This question
liell's4tlt,,t "at enmtnereitil question that the subject was had been brought before the House before the corn-laws •
tati.iiiN It, weuldbevery easy. to tura. that diachs- wire in existence. :The late Sir Robert Peel had;
kticke ; til • coin-law debate, He did not wish to in- called the attention the House to this subject. in the year
N 'Whit .ftt • .subject, :but he_ had ,a right.. to 1815, either before the corn-law had passed, or se immedi.
;05411144,7M; • the... cause.. .of. the -pressure which. ately afterwards that it 'could not have
.produced any effect;
'''Set iiiearPle to submit to such hardships ?.NOinan therefore, whether- the. were right or wrong, it was
ill'atei:auee his wife and children without -a' necessity' impossibl for Hon. Gentlemen opposite .to contend that the
necessity for-resorting to.legislation on this subject-that all the
qtlitißs ~,,00.11t such a necessity as overrode all those .
tle e lea 'Lih svere aSstron la implanted in the 'breasts evils of which they complained were caysed b the want isf a
) tar
__rkin,.
10, 94it,..... 6 population
_, as in those' of any memners of . the Member for South Lancashire, and hehad every expectation
ttel'4,asitri;-(1 Cheers.) He belieied that' there was es: and hope that their legislation =ths subject would be successful.,
taz SX -, , affection-as great a desire to. retain wii- ,
.In fact, the principle was already in operation in many pf. the.
-sAIR r domestic circle, i
kIA . - manufacturing . districts.. in Leeds the had never worked'
tea.e. tie marriages among the working ,clasSes, as more than eleven hours, while their neighbours were working
.twelve hours, and, notwithitanding the intensity of the conipe-
NiT or xnselves.--(Hear, hear.)" Yet. such was the
tition, they,,had never.. found any, necessity for resortinit to
4illial x.iii!,°eis iety, - that they. found . men' driven to,
1, iii'llee,-"a whet). they came to reflect upon :their eon- twelve hours' labour. Surely,' if they were able to do. this, it
erirdnebe injurious toothers to insist upon them not working
'aeqt•
then B,t
B,trUck. them as almost :criminal, ,and aablots owuroeurs_ to•e.greatereatent?' He belieVed that 'this
l'i•it theilal system.-'-(Bear, hear.) • lie did not, see tmeasurea
thetendtoequalisepassingmitigate power of machinery. If this Hill Were passed, itl
t)lltelidit'h.e.`l2.ll!..s. a labour: They ertaelad poverty by, would no longer,irs the power, of manufacturers .to execute in:
set vagist,endettaeured-toremore the consequences of six weeks that which it ought. tis . take 'six Monthsdoing.
,N 't., y taaloa by limiting the peried of employment., They would not be able to execute a largeoorder at once, and
JviN.B "1.,1% him that it was not fair to allude. to the. let their factories remain idle during the rest of the year. By.
sub- the operation of the Bill the-demand for labour would be spread
N;,• l'i),„' ue4u.e it was a party and irritating f over the whole year. He.ailtnitted that-It/night produce some
t'#,J4' '1:: an-4 own-laws -laws did affect- ntiterially. the field. o
a•‘44 tat‘ was upon the permanent demand for, la-!effectupon wages, but h - esteemedsomething '
rde more highly
thn. wages, a he believed tat persons
.withweek,
leil,„: remuneration of labour and, tonsequently, '
' provided the hours were comfortable- having, censequently,
tti 4.e. ts ef the operatiee classes, depended: • ' .ro temation to wander into a public-house-would be far
lit • -
.1, ate. GRAHAM---That is the. whole question better off than . they. would be with 15s.- week under the
to r• sii',. (Near.) --.- - ._. , . . . .present system. ' They would be better' fed; better clothed,
tis'tZth -ARti '
at ti . resumed-It was perfectily imossible to. and more moral, if they had less labour ' and only 12s. , a
I,hoted th 'ejnanufacturing claSses were most injuriously week, 'than they would be with 16s. a week, if they
fact; were overworked.. He had heard 'it • stated . that they
,i)S"\l'l'ere'',;•ht_ae operation of- the corn-laws; that, in.
:4 Zehle -.7 Main, cause of that very -degradafion which th
would, if they consented Ito this measure, be obliged to -carry
principle further. But that which they now wanted to
iettleati seord 'was •,seeking to remove -(Cheers )
'44 kat, Lene.d said. thath' motives. had bee.
even
is n; • esteablish in the factories, was already the custom ofthe country
in all other trades. The manufacturers might taunt the agri-
,t'llef allude thought :from his- look at the tune he pox- cultural employers that their labourers were not better fed or
As that" to . what be, (Mr.. • Weed) had - said better clothed, but-at any rate they were not- overworked.- If
a at_ It_ . •
~
ll'trt,_trt ?use,. and ac he svould•fiet say 'anything during the pressure of harvest women and children were em-
Aaa )4 which,7. he 1411% - _ not • prepared to - re-. •ployed in the fields, they went to.their labour some hours after
ae raa.,Q that House, -he liegged'to 'repeat whet-he the men, and they. were relieved' from -work seem time
Nto Stated.. He admitted thebeitutifel hutrianity before them. The usual hours ,of labour, except in
°ltte..salt?t sensibility of the ,Noble Lord's Character; ,harvest time, were from' six in the morning till six at night,
too'hiea aLntained that he shrank • from going to the apd the same were the hours 'of employment in other trades.
If it should have tke effect of limiting the hours of adult la-
'1)411'011h tle evil, that he was rather dealing 'with . the
, m.. spur he should not be sorry for it ; and he believed that the
t4:/t/ iv '""ati the- d_iseaseaitself.-(tlear, •h,ear.) His
4 IY' aSIII t
e ~w, th: the Noble Lord's proposal .was not a manufacturers would be benefited rather than injured by
making this a ten hours' Bill. He was aware that apprehen-
etret cell y a evil which he pointedout.--(Hear, hear.)
, sions were entertained on the subject. Parties interested in
,i'tt at)' °fat reed. with the Right Hon. Gentleman the any measure always entertained exaggerated apprehensions. In
I~Pe,l;ti.tt,,tiz_ tate forthe .Home Departmenta.that the dealing with the tariff thev_had had to combat the exaggerated
ley pat h`-'n of the proposed alteration would be an apprehensions of parties Who believed their interests would be
,tta."atl Pea wages. • lie firmly. believed that. when affected.' Those apprehensions were, he admitted, honestly
11a ad ft7pressure of diffiCillty-in sustaining life, and a :entertained, hut still' they were exaggerated. It would be
N.,, watae:rePloyinent.,ina almost every branch of in- better at
comeyeemtosemo. t
ot to a 6 havingnal
it madesettlement
a ari)nf tahseuresttionfthen
Nll.,
t: orew.ould . first. be affected, and .thattheugh
Wiwi by the labouring population, who wereg too high-spirited, . hj7 _ they would . not, be :free- indeed,- be. too sensible, and too' %Veil acquainted with their conditionl' to '
i'‘'..fot: tt4y, eNatalist . could , command • labour upen suffer their wives and their children to be longer degraded.
oi, 6., ~,, terms. If they- foree.d. the manufacturer' Be' Was prepared to vote with his Noble Friend the Member
,;a It aa 40profits, they would sharpen competition by for Dorsetshire for a ten hours' Bill, as the measure more
Ist tia*het a. au as regarded labour... They Must look, likely to put a stop to the agitation than leaving the question
I)tti,lt t by
than said-in that House, but at what .was said unsettled.-( Hear.) .
4, ' letk,g4;se who were favoti rabic to the Noble Lord. ' - Mr. BRIGHT Would not have. trespassed on the . House
bed ;.'pla tiliu, at the meeting. which took place- at Leeds? again after the great length at which he had
,aildtessed them
:44174t wkse'yicar of Leeds, .attended that meeting, the other night, but. being intimately connected' with the
tai., It w_uts view of the. Ten Hours': Bill :).--.(l.lear; branch of industry which this measure was calculated to affect,
•CPlooAetr, certainly r a 'view, .ineS( desirable to be 'andhaving'passed all his fife among the,population who' would
:'l.-AN teen d' because it would. reliere,winuen, from:all be affected by _this. Billi,he hoped the .:House would, admit, hat
t.' Asi_ Ale-4- tr-Witilld- to' G od,-- he-wottld-sa y; they could he had:some cisicato be heardon the: subject.... He. had listened
to the speech of the Noble Lord, the Member • for.Dorsetshire,
~.147settatliarr
it'lt_lsaid that the. business- of. women • was with surprise.. The Dibble Lord, made the. same speech, or
lit), ii„.very s.,_',A,le
...'comfortable.-7(Hear, :heat%) :All ,soniething very tench like it, upon a former occasiep, and: he
4`;l4:`. 04,;_;11; but: when be was told
.by Dr. Hook (Mr. Bright) had mot, supposed that any change..had taken
(tria,.h, tite that for - every: :this Bill, was - a plum in the Noble. Lord's. opinions., .He thought. the Noble
tiltark&N 01_,Ight he was entitled to ask whether the Lord had taken a one-sided view-an unjust view-not altinten-
kk 11!ear.) "7, Made out 'that :such, was the case?- tiaras! perhaps,. but a view which was not borne out by the
4`._t 11,14 gill
~.!le could not Agrpe with the' Noble-Lord facts-a view which did not correspond with the Factory In-
'specior's Report--a view which if it influenced the decision of
vtot. ,ttlt4t, here calculated to effect the objects intended,
4 `ll4 fore oppose time course' he proposed. to that House, would be most prejudicial to that ye_ yr ' class7which
eqa k D ' . . theltoble Lord intended to _.serve.• The Right Bon. Baronet,
- the Secretary ,for the Home Department, who was, he pre.
ii^t,' 'l'i ''GETITOist
tir...'lS - and, b -- would rote, foe the motion of his aimed, the promoter of that ' Bill in that House, .should,
111%-mtint,tils.l:.g.reat9e'srins that if carried. it would be pro- :lie thought,•rrehis speech have given some reason why. a, new
(14 htti il eathcped. He -had-not-arrived-at this de- Factory Bill was introduced at all. He confessed he was im-
Ito ti.A.btoo
s_.icillt great consideration, and . nothing 'able to discover any reason why the Factory Bill now
ti,11:....1ti: '454 that night hadalteredilth opinion.- in operation had failed. .He was aware that the InspeCtors
t - keit], th...ohservationw that .. had fallen front his had.: said that it . could not ,be fully carried out.
. oti Priti 4eet to '..Lajetnber for Sheffield, appeared to ,him The only reason why the present Act could not be carried out
N44ipitipie,
of this observation-that they _would go to was because it could not possibly be applied to a trade. so ex-
:l, b. rain.h. non-interlerence ,in the sub' et. : The terisive and. intricate as that to which it applied. -He was not
t tit • o 1, b .
et at„. It e,„. e most • properly . adopted in many one •
that would venture to say that the manufacturing districts
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wisely departed from in the re- • t were aparadise.- He believed that there of this.ceren country . were.
in those district evils, very great and serious evils, and be had
Itiger tA.,"41 the nought that the Hon Member for Man- I
1,14 -(1 st authorit I been no party to their congealment. But whatever. evils did
Ai'Rlit I tt'eg a •Y°f a -friend' of his; had drawn' exist, he Maintained:that they were. evils' referable to other
klas e Ise ion. p . Picture with. respect to factories.' causes .than the existence of the factories and long chimneys.
tiO9, 4 Pltrtule 'lend, the Secretary of State for the ; Most of theitateinents.which had been. made .that night at the
yieti_ad emants :had opposed this motion with great I table, by the Noble Lord (Ashley), might .be just as
t'9 'bile of
as strong stronrespect to Birmingham, or
g grounds. , Ile had-stated that aS applicable . if. ' read- with '
Vl' Wttlee ot ars might, and probably would, be the ' this Metropolis, or the northern districts' of. the country.
ttiat:t tesesspt ita_e measure.-(Hear; hear.) lie thought : But in a population. so large as that of Lancashire and York-
kti. iltio. ktor rrference with factory labour .was far '.
shire, where towns'were so numerous as almost to touch each
tit 4 by of ‘. 3' Sod he was disposedthinkthe di other, all these evils were more observable than in a popula.-
ts /th ages w, . to
denies' densely crowded together. He would prove, from docu-
lit it, e Nine, nich might ,follow • would be mill. ' ments at least as worthy the attention of the House as those
ate eso rts that tvould be fI • b 4e. i 4....„ . . et : y the opera-, , Which had been read by the Noble :Lord, that what the Noble
weir tia 1 -
y 1). work. 'The,Noble Lord,* -• Lorst had stated l'iMT not Aktilruth..r4itioopect to: the stettLo' f
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