The Sun.
London, England, 1844-07-19 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENIWI, JULY 19, 1544

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J. Firth, clothier, Leeds.
G. Leach, green-grocer, Bingley, Yorkshire.
J. Groom, cabinet-maker, St. Clement, Oxfordshire.
Rev. J. Williams, clerk, Grove-road, Mile-end-road.
T.:Greenwood, dealer in woollen-flocks, Halifax, Yorkshire.
R. Rushbroak, veterinary-surgeon, Rayleigh, Essex.
C. Bampton, collar-maker, Woolwich.
E. Brown, governess, Brighton.
J. Breden, shoemaker, Liverpool.
J. Cosyn.-barnesti-maker, Redburn, Hertfordahlre,
W. E. Thomii; hair-dresser, Bristol.
J. Cherry, joined, Stockport, Cheshire.
J. Robson, buteber„Manehester.
A. Morris, pork.butcher, Manchester.
W. Wagstaff, cabinet-maker, LiverpooL
H. Glazebrook, coach-maker, Long-lane Bermondsey.
Carter-street, Sherwood, stationer, Cartestreet, Wkworth.
W. C. Fuller, green-grocer, George-street, Oxford-street.
G. Rownsley, Waterman, Snaith, Yorkshire.
B. Roffe, baker, Millbrook, Bedfordshire.
C. Sewell, shoemaker, Gestingthorpe, Essex.
C. Bevil', attorney, Cambridge.
J. Lamb, deputy coal-weigher, Globe-terrace, Commercial-rd.
G. Newman, usher, Ealing, Middlesex.
J. Massey, tailor, Kidderminster, Worcestershire.
T. Fancy, been-ed victualler, Bear-yard, Lincoln's Inn-fields.
T. Friend, cabinet-maker, Canterbury.
R. Knights, butcher, John-street, Edgeware-road.
J. M. P. Fellingham, clerk, King Ethvard-st., Blackfriars.
W. Chubb, accountant, Bristol.
R. Shaw, shipwright, Gatcombe, Gloucestershire.
R. Smith, shopman, Bowling-green-buildings, New-road.
J. Burgess, jun., shoemaker, Southwold, Suffolk.
T. Sansom, baker, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire.
J. Cherriman, dentist, Wells-street, Alaryiebone.
A. Woodroffe, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk,
T. Lee, inn-keeper, Halifax, Yorkshire.
F. Twysden, Bearsted.green, Maidstone.
W. Bainbridge, boot-maker, Fenchurch-street, City.
J. Mercer, carpenter, Horsemonger-lane, Southwark.
M. Burgess, Acle, Norfolk.

any one independent-of your client ? Mr. Russell—l
knew it from my client first; but I knew_ it from other
sources.—(A laugh.)
To the LORD CHANCELLOR—Never had any
communication with the person who paid this money,
except in the presence of his brother, and thought
that he was justified in refusing to give the name of that
person.
Lord BROUGHAM told the witness that he was not
privileged as to the unknown person, and must con-
sider the consesaences..-(klear, hear.) The Committee
had no power to eomtnit him, but the House had.
The Duke of RICHMOND asked had he not advised
his brother not to bring the action in his own name, be-
cause his character was so tainted? Answer—l think
I did.—(Laughter.)
Lord BROUGHAM submitted to their Lordships
that as the person at the bar admitted that the person
whose name he withheld was not his client, he could
not refuse to give the name.
After some consultation with the Noble and Learned
Lord, the Counsel, Mr. James, and the witness, were
ordered to withdraw from the bar ; and the witness was
peremptorily ordered not to leave the House.
A conversation ensued of some length, in which several
' Noble Lords took part, respecting the course to be pur-
sued ; when it was resolved that the witness Russell be
ordered to attend at the bar, and that in the meantime
his evidence before the Select Committee anti the House
be printed.
The witness was accordingly called in, and ordered to
attend. He said—" I will obey your Lordships. --(Oa,
of course you will.)
THE IRISH STATE TRIALS APPEAL.
The LORD CHANCELLOR wished to call the at-
tention of the House to a matter which affected himself
personally, and which was, however, of some importance
to their Lordships and to public justice. His attention
WAS drawn, through the medium of one of thelrish papers,
to a statement in the Morning Chronicle, that whilst Mr.
Hill was arguing upon the challenge of the array,
"the Lord Chancellor said that there could be no
doubt that the array was fraudulent." The Morn-
ing Chronicle went en to ask, could it be doubted
that a verdict obtained under fraud so admitted by the
Lord Chancellor of England would be viewed with exe-
cration by the people of England; or could any Ministry
have the audacity to carry the sentence into effect, after
such a condemnation ? These remarks were printed in
large letters in all the Irish papers. He did not blame
the writer in the Morning ,Chronicle, who was misled,.
from not understanding what he (the Lord Chancellor) had
said. Nothing could be further fromthe meaning of his oh -
servations, which went no farther than that if the array
were made in the way which Mr. Hill Stated it would be
fraudulent ; but that he could not judge of that, as he
knew nothing of the facts, which should have been de•
tided by the Court of (tetteen's Bench. '
Lord BROUGHAM concurred in the observations of
his Noble and Learned- Friend on the Woolsack, and
said that nothing could justify the use which the Irish
papers had made of the misrepresentation.
Lord CAMPBELL said that his Noble and Learned
Friend on the WcOlsack was perfectly riglit in making
to the House the explanation which he hai made. But
he (Lord Campbell) must say, that when this subject
came before the House he would differ from the opinion
of his Noble and Learned Friend, and that he thought
the Attorney-General was not justified in going to trial
as he did, nor until the whole book of the jury-list had
been gone through, and the defendants had a full chance
of a fair trial.

PRICE OF SUGAR.
The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, for the
week ending July 16, 1844, is 325. lid. per cwt., exclusive
of the Duties of Customs paid or payable thereon on the im•
portation thereof into Great Britain.

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From the London New Price Current of July 19.)
SUGAR.-The market has still an improving appearance for
all descriptions of Raw Sugar admissible for home consump-
tion. To-day there was less activity in the West India Sugar
market, still merchants displayed firmness, and a fair busi-
ness was transacted at fully former rates. The market closed
with a firm appearance, especially for all bright grocery and
strong refining sorts.
REFirrED.--An extensive demand has prevailed for the
home trade this week, and an advance on former rates of Is
to is 6d per cwt has been paid. To-day Refined Goods were
much wanted by the home trade, and stiffer rates paid; the
market has become bare of goods; brown lumps are fetching
75s to 7DS 6d, and standard 76s to 77s per cwt. Bonded
Crushed Sugar finds ready purchasers at full former rates.
The market is firm for Loaves, and a good deal is doing.
Itatrumus.-A good business has been transacted by pri-
vate treaty, and all the parcels on offer have been disposed of
rather above former rates. This afternoon the trade pur-
chased freely ; at public sale 11,326 bags of various sorts
were offered, and the whole disposed of at an advance on the
rates of the last auctions of 6d per cwt ; prices ruled as
follows :-fine yellow at 61s to 625, good 59s to 60s 6d, mid
56s 6d to 58s 6d, low 54s 6d to 565, good to fine brown 52s
to 545, mid 47s 6d to 495, low 45s 6d to 475, ord to mid grey
54s to 575, good to fine 58s to 60s 6d per cwt. For public
sale on Tuesday 1,600 bags are declared.
EAST INDIA.--Bengal Sugar has met with ready purchasers
at an advance on former rates of 6d to is per cwt. This
afternoon Bengal Sugar was wanted, bat rather higher
rates being asked checked business, and 1848 bags at
auc=tion_ were only partly sold-mid soft date yellow at 56s to
58s 6d, washed 51s to 57s 6d, very fine sound white 70s, fine
655, good 635, low 59s 6d to 61s, washed 60s to 67s ; 64 bags,
iu bond, went at 25s to 27s for low damp yellow; 1;215 bags
Madras, in bond, sold at lower rates, viz.:-fine damp bright
brown at 27s to 295, good 25s to 26s 6d, and low dark 19s to
22s 6d per cwt.
FOREIGN.-Brown Brazil Sugar has been in increased de-
mand privately this week, and a good business has been
transacted at rather higher rates. Yellow Havaanah is
much wanted, and in some cases the rates paid are rather
above those previously quoted. White Havannah is firm in
price and in fair denrand: fine yellow Havannah at 22s to
22s 6d, good 20s 6d to 21s, washed 19s, good sound white 28s
to 28s 6d, and slightly damaged 25s per cwt.
MOLASSLS.-IV est India cannot generally be purchased
upon lower terms; but few purchases have been made pri-
vately ; 26s accepted for good Antigua. For parcels offered
at auction, Antigua 245, Barbadoes 265, St. Kitt's 245, and
Montserrat 23s per cwt. Tamarinds are cheaper; 17i barrels
West India at auction were sold at 50s
.per cwt. For Honey
prices have made a stand; 5 jugs Jamaica at auction went at
50s, to 58s per cwt.
Faun-Importers of Currants are not inclined to further
give way in prices, but buyers still operate with reluctance.
COFFEE.-Thera has been less demand for West India
Coffee this week, but holders remain firm, and will not sell,
excepting at former rates. This afternoon, the public sales
of Ceylon Coffee were large, at an advance on former rates of
6d to Is per cwt; good ordinary fetched 50s to 525, very good
ordinary 52s- 6d to 545, good ordinary brown 53s to 545, fine
ordinary .58s, fine fine ordinary colory 68s to 70s, low
middling colory 78s to 79s Pea berry 81s to 87s,
triage 16s to 17s, and sea damaged 14s to 16s. Jamaica
middling fetched 86s 6d to 88s, low middling 79s to
80s, fine fine ordivary 72s 6d to 755, fine ordinary 56s to
62a, triage 36s 6d to 525; 179 bags Java, sound, taken in at
35s 6d to 37s for fine ordinary yellow Sincapore, a few lots in
single casks 41 to 495; 78 barrels of Rio were bought in at
56s for middling.coloury.
-- TEA.To-day the market presented a fiat appearance for
nearly every description of Tea. Congou but mid ra str and
fresh sold at Is lid to Is 2d, but mid is 2d, super strong
2s 2d to 2s 2id ; Twankay but mid Is sd, and Hyson flavour
2s lid to 2s lid; Gunpowder 38 6d to 4s sd, and Imperial
2s 10id per lb,
Sricisa.-There have been no public sales of black Pepper,
and although prices rule low still buyers have purchased very
sparingly by private contract. This afternoon 87 bags White
Pepper at auction sold at full rates, and fetched 5d to 5Ad
per-lb kr mid quality. 75 bags ourbon Cloves went at
easier rates, good rather bright at 9d to 9d per lb. 41 bar-
rels Jamaica Ginger were sold at 41 15s to 6119 s for ordinary
to good mid. 150 bags bold wormy Bengal were taken iu at
225, buyers at 188 per cwt.
eocoA.-Insporters of %Vest India submitting to a reduc-
tion on previous rates of Is to 2s per cwt, has occasioned the
demand to be good. This afternoon Foreign met with little
attention, and 200 bags Para at auction were all withdrawn.
ME-The market has presented a firm aspect for all de-
scriptions of East India Rice this week, notwithstanding the
favourable appearance for the grain crops, and the dull state
of the Wheat trade. This afternoon Bengal Rice was in
excellent request, and 2,364 bags 400 pockets at public sale
were readily disposed of at rather higher prices-good raid
white fetched lls 6d to 12s, mid Ils 6d, and mid white
broken lls to lls 6d per cwt.
'SAGO -Holders show firmness, and supply the market
sparingly. This afternoon at auction, 106 boxes Sago went
Is to 2s cheaper-fine small white Pearl selling at 19s;
54 brls Tapioca sold at 2id to aid, and 560 tins Jamaica
Arrowroot partly sold at 6d to 84:1 per lb.
EU3I, _BRANDY, AND HOLLANDS.-For the finest descrip-
tions of Jamaica Ruin prices are supported, but for all other
sorts they are going down, and rule Id to 2d per gallon under
those of this day week. For Leewards prices keep firm, and
a good business has been transacted; the purchases amount
to 150 puns at 2s 21jd to 2s 3d per gallon proof. The market
is in a dull state tor Demerara, and easier rates taken-
-2s lld to 3s 2d is the value of strong qualities, but Calcutta
hits been in lively demand, and very full prices paid; 400
casks sold privately at Is ltd to is Hid per gallon, proof;
with certificate ; at public sale 174 puns 2 hhds
Calcutta were taken in at 2s 4d to 2s Sid for
24 to 22 per cent. over, but since sold at a fraction above
Is ltd per gallon, proof strength. For Brandy, lower rates
have again been accepted. Cognac, best brands of the
vintage of Is3B hhds 5s 341, puns 5s id; ditto 1839 hhds 5s la,
puns 4s 1141; ditto 1840 hhds 58, puns 4s lOd ; ditto 1841
hhds 4s I Id, puns 4s 9d; ditto 1842 hhds 4s 8d„- puns 4s 6d,
mid and good mid sorts 3s to 4s 6d, and low 2s 8d to 2s 10d
per gallon. The stock of Brandy is a large one. Geneva
at is lOd to Is 11d, for fine for home consumption 2s $d to
3s 6d per gallon paid for small parcels. English Corn Spirits
at lOs 4d per gallon, cash, and there has been a good business
transacted. -

Lord COTTENHAM said that the statement in the
Morning:Vhronicle wis incorrect, as had been properly
shown by hiss Noble and Learned Friend ; .but the mis-
apprehension of the writer was very excusable, when the
difficulty of a law argument, even to a lawyer, was con-
sidered. =

The conversation then dropped.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
Mr. GREENE and others from the Commons brought
up the Unlawful Oaths Bill (Ireland), the Soap Duties
Bill, the Party Processions Bill (Ireland), the Farm.-
building Buntings Bill, and numerous other Bills, which
were severally read a first time.
THE POST-OFFICE INQUIRY.
A further message from the Commons communicated
the permission of the Commons to Lord J. Russell to
attend before their Lordships' Committee.
The Earl cf RADNOR had seen it stated in some of
the newspapers that he had consented to have his name
omitted from that Committee. .He thought it right to
say that he felt he ought to have been on the Committee.
The Duke of WELLING ON had supposed that the
list which he had proposed for the Committee was uni-
versally approved of.

CORN-LAWS.
The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition from
agriculturists of Wiltshire, complaining of distress, and
praying for the repeal of the corn-laws, and all laws
against the importation of provisions. Their Lordships
had repeatedly denied that there was distress iind a
Noble Lord near him said there was none in Wiltshire,
but the petitioners a ho resided there were likely to know
better than the Noble Lord (Methuen), wi 0 seldom
visited the count>•.—(Hear, and a laugh.)
Lord METHUEN said he was well acquainted with
the county, but he might not know as much of some par-
ticular persons as the Noble Earl, who went about in
every corner searching for statements of distress.—
(Hear, and a laugh.)
The Duke of RICHMOND presented petitions in fa-
vour of protection, and said that he would send down a
pamphlet to show the true state of the questions to the
persons who signed the Noble Earl's (Radnor's) petition ,
from Wiltshire.

[LEFT sirTnia.l

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES REGISTRATION
AND REGULATION BILL.
(Continued from 'our Afternoon Edition.)
On clause 25 being proposed,
Mr. STUAR'r WORTLEY 'said- this was the regis-
tration clau,e, and -important as being the first one re-
lating to existing companies. He wished to ask whether
the measure would affect joint-stock mills. Those joint-
stock mills were %ery common in the manufacturing dis-
tricts, and it was by no means uncommon for the smaller
sharehol&rs to run up accounts, and leave their partners
to pay fir them. If this Bill provided a remedy for that
evil, it would be conferring a great boon upon the manu-
facturing districts.
Mr. GLADSTONE regretted that, in consequence 'of
the difficulty of the subject, he had been obliged to post-
pone the Consideration of the relative rights of share-
holders among themselves until next session. In certain
respects the Bill would improve the relations between
companies and their shareholders, but it would not
remedy the evil of which the lion. Gentleman com-
plained. There- would be facilities of obtaining judg-
ments against Companies, and this he thoughth ouid
prove very beneficial.
Mr. S. WORTLEY had thought it his duty to call
the Right Hon. Gentleman's 'a-tention to this subject,
and he trusted that some steps would be taken with
respect to it next year.
The clause was then agreed to, as were clauses 26 to 57.
The Usher of the Black Rod appeared at the bar, and
summoned the House to the bar of the House of Lords,
to hear the Royal Assent given by Commission to seve-
ral Bills (for which see Lords' report).
The SPEAKER, accompanied by several Members, then
proceeded to the. House of Lords.
On their return, the House went into Committee,
when the remaining clauses were agreed to, and the Bill,
with amendments, was ordered to be reported on Tues-
day next at twelve o'clock. .
The House resumed.
'CAPITAL PUNISHMENTS.
Mr. BRIGHT presented a petition from the Liverpool
Peace Society, praying for the aboition of the punish-
ment of death in ail cases.

INDlGo.—Since last Friday the market has presented a
firm aspect fur all descrirtions of East India Indigo. To-day
'during the progress of the sale 125 chests were withdrawn
and 823 have passed. ,
Ons.—Southern Oil, prices have declined lOs per tun ;
Seal 36/ paid for pale, at which hoiders are firm. Cod 33/ 15s
to 34/ per tnn, and the stock is a small one. Sperm is much
wanted, fine I.ritish fetching 84/ to 851 and American 81/
to 83 per tun. Rape at 37s 6d to 38s and
brown 36s 6d to 37s per cwt : the supply is
getting large. Linseed Oil at 25s 9d to 26s per cwt. Cocoa
Nut Oil at 27s to 304 per cwt. Palm at 28s to 29s per cwt
for the lowest. Olive Oil at lower rates; Gallipoli at 45/ to
46/, Spanish 43/ to 44/, and Barbary 41/ to 42/ per tun. Ame-
rican Lard Oil is wanted. This afternoon of 130 tuns Ele-
phant Oil which were offered at public sale, a small part only
sold, at 291 10s to 32/ lOs per tun.
TALLOW.—Holders of Russian Tallow are not inclined to
take lower rates this week, but the dulness in the market has
increased. This afternoon at public sale 291 bags New South
\Vales Tallow were sold at 37s 3d to 41s 6d, and 383 pipes
16 hhds South American at 37s to 40s per cwt.

COURTS OF COM: ON LAW.
On the motion of Mr. CRIPPS, the Courts of Coin.
mon Law Process Bill, and the Courts of Comnion Law
(Ireland) Bill, went through Committee.
The Parish Constable Bill was read a third time.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE (IRELAND).
Mr. BRIGHT, seeing the Noble Lord the Secretary
for Ireland in his place, wished to direct his attention to
a csse which had occurred at the recent assizes in Ire-
land. Two women had been lately found guilty of mur-
der in the county of Roscommon, and were How left for
execution on the 31st of this month. The crime was
committed in the month of June, 1843, when on the Co-
roner's inquest on • the body, a verdict of suicide was
returned. Since that time,
,a woman who slept or
said she slept in the same' room where the murder
had been committed, had given evidence which
proved that the min was murdered and then carried out
of the room, when his throat was cut., with the intention
of waking it appear that he had committed suicide. On
the •trial the jury deliberated twenty-two hours, and'
then found the two women guilt); of wilful murder; one
of them being the wile of the murdered man,
and the other her sister. - The jury recommended
them to mereyt but he was informed that the
Judge refused to transmit that recommendation to Dub-
lin. There was reason to believe that the chief witness
in the case, was a woman of extremely bad character,
and that her evidence was doubtful. Altogether it ap-
peared that the whole party were of a very low state of
civilization, for when the occurrence took place
the murdered man and his wife slept in one
bed, and the woman who gave the evidence was
:leeping,with her own father in another bed. The third
woman who was a servant sleeping
in • an adjoining
room to which there was no door. It appeared that all
of them were of a class that rendered it necessary to
receive their evidence with great caution. Under all
circumstances it seemed one of those cases worthy the
attention of Government. If the man, was murdered an
inquiry ought . to be made into the conduct of the
coroner, as it was stated that he examined but one wit-
ness, and called no surgeon, the inquest being thus of a
most unsatisfactory character.
Lord ELIOT thought the object of the Hon. Gentle-
man would have been equally well attained, had he
merely called his attention to the matter. He could not
help thinking he had rather exceeded the limits allowed
in asking questions. He must else observe that the
coroner was not accountable to the Government ; at the
same time, he could assure the lion. Gentleman that the
circumstances of the trial should have his best attention.
PRIVY COUNCIL BILL.
Lord HOWICK ‘id, he observed that the Privy
Council Bill was one of the orders of the day for the
third reading on that evening. He understood that this
Bill almost re-modelled the Judicial Committee of the
Privy Council, and provided a considerable salary for a
Chief Judge. He wished to ask whether the second
reading would be moved to night, and whether the Bill
was supported by her Majesty's Government. , COPENHAGEN, JULY 11.—Yesterday morning the
Sir J. GRAHAM said he had read the Bill, which he Russian frigate Aurora, of 44 guns, arrived in the Chan-
did not think the Noble Lord could have done, and he nel(dießgennk of freshbound
e).
fro
mCNroerwisstaids tmt,omeEtnog-dlaan3d,
from
salary. could state that there was no clause in it fixing such a took in a stock
salary. Nor should he (Sir J. Graham) be prepared to Dragoe, that a Russian fleet, coming from the south, was
support a Bill that would do so. The other arrange- .in sight at eight o'clock this morning; three ships a ere
tthoe taht se
s of
ththeeGßoivllernwemreenetntwiraes prlyoepafarteecd tehnical nature, and two miles south of Dragoe.—Jiandburgle Bourse:a/idle,
give its assent. July 13.

MPERIAL PARLIAMENT

(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
ROYAL ASSENT.

At Four o'clock: there was a Commission to give the
Royal Asseflt to certain Bills. The Commissioners
were the Lord Chancellor, Lord Wharnclifte, and Earl
Dalhousie.

The following are the Bills which received the Royal
Assent—the Bank Charter Bill ; the Property-Tax
Exemption Bill ; the Dissenters' Chapel Bill ; the Cus-
toms Duties (Isle of Man) Bill ; the County. Rates Bill ;
the:Militia Ballot Suspension Bill ; the Stock in Trade
Asses§ment Bill ; the Paupers Removal Bill (Scotland)
Bill ; the Parishes (Scotland) Bill ; the Prisons (Scot-
land) Bill ; Loan Societies (Ireland) Bill ; Manchester,
Ashton-under-Lyne, and Staleybridge Railway Bill ;
Cokin ster- and Ipswich Railway Bill ; the
South-Western Railway Amendment Bill ; the
Liverpool 'Nicks Bill ; the Berkenhead Docks Bill;
the Southampton Improvement Bill ; the-Coventry Im-
provement Bill ; the York Gas Light Companys' Bill ;
andrseverul Road and Estate Bills.

'Their Lordships adjourned for a short time, and as-
sembled again, NN hen—
Mr. E. Jc.mes was called to the Bar, and addressed
their Lordships a;,ainA the Gaming Bill. ' When the
Learned Gent.ernan concluded.

Mr. Russell. was called and examined by Lord
BROUGHAM—I am the attorney in the qui tam ac-
tions ; I was instructed by my clerk ; he is my brother;
he has a salary of SOL a year; I brought about 34
actions; be did not instruct me till I first suggested to him
to do so; I expect he will pay me; I do riot expect he will
pay the entire. The expense of one of those actions, if lost,
might be about 1;000/. A gentleman paid 9002 towards
the expenses. I do not know him ; he did not instruct
me, I decline to tell who he is, because that was conA-
munieated to 11161 as an attorney. He is not my client.
I know his name, but I decline togite it.
Lord BROUGHAM—No privilege will protect a man
who is not your c,iient. Come-, give the name:
The LORD cnANcETLoR —lf you do not answer
that question you will reflect on the consequences,
Witness—l d 4 cline to answer, because it was a privi.
leged communication.
Lord BROUGHAM—Did you know the name from

THE STATE TRIALS.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that es the opinion of the
Judges had not yet been delivered respecting the trial of
Mr. O'Connell, and then he would postpone until
another supply day the question for an address to her
Majesty, praying her Majesty to release the prisoners.
[LEFT KITING.]

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'..' .. .He was therefore disposed to move the third reading ; BANItRUPTCY EXTRAORDINARY ( important town in the United Kingdom;. and he hoP_°ot
but if the Noble Lord objected to it he should not move Before SIR C. F. WILLIAMS.
it at any hour at which the Noble Lord might be unable
•
i their Lordships would now allow the second leading, a f
At the sitting of the Court, a figure entered, looking I binding them or any Noble Lord to the precise terms 0
any part of the measure.
to attend.
.. as pale as death, and begged to be allowed to surrender I
Lord HOWICK was aware that the clauses fixing the himself as a bankrupt. • . 1 The Bill was then read a second time.
salary were not printed in this Bill, but they were The figure represented himself as the statue of Nelson, I SUDBURY DISFRANCHISEMENT.
printed in the Bill as it stood in another place. now and for some time past of Trafalgar-square. He I The LORD CHANCELLOR gave notice that, an Sir J. GRAHAM said it. was not intended to move stared that a few friends had been desirous of setting him Monday next, he would move the second reading of In
any clause in that House that was nut in the Bill. up in the neighbourhood of Charing
-cross, where he had ; Sudbury Disfranchisement Bill. He would also I? n_v.e.
Lord HOWICK said it was ektremely objectionable,
di D.,'"'
hoped to have cut a good figure, but want of money had I that counsel be heard against the Bill, as they h
hoped .-
that at so late a period of the session, when all the prin- for a long time kept him down, and he had been coin. . heard in the other House.
ciple getletrien. of the House connected withohe legal pletely laid upon his back for avery Considerable period. es •- - INSOLVENT DEBTORS' BILLS.
profession were necessarily absent on circuit, that such a Sir C. Wiauems—What do you want here ? I sit The LORD CHANCELLOR brought up the report
Bill as this should be moved and carried ; they had be- here to do juStice, and if justice is not most thoroughly of the Select Committee on these Bills.
fore had experience of the great impropriety of legal bills done in every sense of the word, it is no fault of mine. been hrought in and carried through at this late period . Lord BROUGHAM sugge4ed that their Lordships
The figure observed that he came to surrender, and to should at once refer the report of the Select Conimite
of the session.
. ask for protection against the numerous jokes that were to a Committee of the whole House, as it was desirablee.
Sir J. GRAHAM understood that the Bill had been being made at his (the statue's) expense, and which lo lose no time in passing so important a measure I
proposed with the unanimous consent of the Judges of were really enough to break a heart of stone. this period of the session.
the Privy Council ; and under these circumstances, he . Sir C. s'. WiLeseets—l can give you no protection Lord CAMPBELL thought that, in the absence. of
.
hoped it would not be opposed. , against jokes. I can't protect myself. I have been nearly Lord Cottenham, who had had 'no notice of the No°.;
MEDICAL PROFESSION. joked off this chair on several occasions. What is the and Learned Lord's proposition, the Bill ought not 1
Mr. PHILIP HOWARD asked the Right Hon. extent of your liabilities ? proceedßill another stage.
Gentleman, the Secretary of State, if he intended to
The figure said he really could not tell. A man After a very desultory conversation (aMidst much ill'
fession. pro- and a boy had been employed, who had left no stone terruption), in which Lord Brougham, Lord CantPbeil
ii,
unturned, but he (the figure) was aware whether and Lord Mountcashel took part,
Sir J. GRAHAM said he still intended to introduce they had been paid for their labour. Lord BROUGHAM moved that the report he ri,°.:"
a Bill on this subject, but be would not press it this Sir C. F. WILLIAMS asked if there was any truth in referred to a Committee of the whole House. His Non,
session.
the report that the statue contemplated throwing himself and Learned Friend who was absent would have araPhie,
Sir R. PEEL moved that the House at its rising do off the pedestal, in consequence of his awkward position ? opportunity of expressing his views of the report at
adjourn to Monday.—Agreed to. The figure, with large drops of stucco standing in his future stage. -
SINKING FUND.
sicced'
eyes, observed that he had never tbought of throwing Lord CAMPBELL continued to oppose this pr
_f
On the motion of Mr. WODEHOUS.E, certain returns himself on the public by jumping down; but he admitted ing, on the ground of its irregularity and the absence U
relating to the sinking fund were ordered to be made. that, if he had had sufficient rope, he might as well have notice.
BRASSINGTON INCORPORATION. hanged himself. After some further conversation,
Mr. COLVILLE gave notice that he should, on Mon- Sir C. F. Wiamems—How much rope have •you, then? Lord BROUGHAM postponed his motion until to',
.
day next move that it be an instruction to the Cominittee The figure said he had got a coil of about a yard, till morrow, with the hope and distinct understanding, that
on the Gilbert Unions that they should examine wit- some of it was cut away, for what reason he did not no person would take advantage of the late period of t"
nesses from the Brassington Incorporations..
EDUCATION. know—for he was just its much tied by the leg BOW as session to induce persons elsewhere to defeat the Bill-
he had been always.
EDUCATION IN IRELAND.
On the motion that the order of the day be read for Sir C. F. Wm.'s= asked if the statue had nofriends The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL, in bringing forward
the House resolving itself into a Committee of Supply, who would set him up respectably ? the motion of which he had given notice, said that be.
Mr. EWART rose for the purpose of calling the at. The figure replied that his best friends were for had to accuse the Commissioners of Education in he.;
tention of the House to the expediency of a statement withdrawing • him altogether from public observation. land of having unlawfully applied the school funds, and
being made by the Government, respecting the disposal Ile would sooner pave the public street than be knocked usurped the school land, and of other violations of the.
and the results of the outlay of public money voted about and taken to pieces as he had been lately. ass,
trusts, and excess of their lawful powers. In one c ,
for the purposes of education ; and also to the wipes Sir C. F. Wilemeets---4 sit here as a Commissioner, in which he was a trustee with another Peer, with
diency of promoting the formation of public and I really earn do nothing. libraries in the metropolis and provincial towns. Miss Stannix, he was refused by the Commissioners all
The figure said he had heard so before ; and having information as to what had* been done with the propertf.
He was anxious to offer a few observations to the House thanked the Commissioner, he was carried out by the He communicated with the lady, and she informed bits
on this subject. In mooting the army estimates, the man and the boy who were appointed assignees under that she was induced to make over the property to Ike.
navy estimates, and the Ordinance estimates, it was the bankruptcy.—Punch.
Minister without consulting him as a trustee, through
~
always customary for those who brought forward those
- the influence of her solicitor. The Noble Lord was in'
several to makes statement as to the condition of their
several departments. He thought that was a precedent SO tJTH AMERICAN DEBTS. terrupted whilst reading the lady's letter by the an•
•
which ought to be followed in bringing forward the esti- A correspondent at Cleveland, in Yorkshire, begs nouncement ofA
message from the Commens; The messenge,ro
mates on the subject of education. He thought they the insertion of his letter; which we readily accord, brought to the bar several Bills which they had passe°.
ought not only to have a statement as to the general • merely premising that as yet nothing satisfactory has The Earl of 111OUNCASHEL said it was now stir
application of the funds, but a statement of the ,
prospects of each particular department. They transpired in connection with the Mexican or Co- gested to him, that he ought to take the case into Char
lunibian debts, but that we trust the spirit of inquiry eery ; but that would be useless, as the Lord Chew
should have before them a statement of what had
and indignation • d b
been done in each particular department of education., evinced by numerous umero_us other parties cellor of Ireland was one of the ommissioners.
They hid estimates proposed for various establishments; ' besides our correspondent will not be without .
a sa- The LORD CHANCELLOR—You could take it into
they had estimates for the Schools of Design, ler the 1 lutary effect. We shall revert to this subject again, the Rolls Court.
Universities, for the National Gallery, and cor otln r in- and in the meantime subjoin the communication : The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL said the Master °f
---
stitutions of a similar nature. That was an additional " 1 have been an old subscriber to your very ta-
the Rolls was also a Commissioner.—(Laughter.)
reason why they should have a statement on the subject lented and influential journal. I will thank you to The LORD CHANCELLOR—Oh, pray, don't bra
on the part of the Crown. Education had, of late years, inform me and others, through the medium of your it before me.
The Earl of MOIN'FCASHEL was proceeding with
been extended into the factory system, to the system of widely-extended circulation, if there be any appear• the statement of his case against the Commissionw
prison discipline, and it had formed portions, more or less, ance of the Mexican agents paying the half-years'
ofßills for the amendment of the poor-law. Now, the Go- when he was again interrupted by
dividend, due the Ist of April last, as I saw in your
vernment ought to give them an insight into the alterations Lord WHARNCLIFFE, who said that the House
which had taken place in the educational establishments
Journal ten days or a fortnight ago that above could do nothing
Noble in the matter, which was one fora
during the past year; and into the prospect of probable
160,000 dollars had arrived for that purpose, and with court of law only to determine, and he asked the
the till'e
improvement. Among the sites for education there was the previous arrivals in hand, it was judged sufficient Lord whether it was worth his while to occupy one for the School of Design, an institution of the greatest Idividend. And l'lt •
to pay the Apri , i ewise, can 3
-eu of.the House when his speech could lead to no result r .
importance to the arts and manufactures of this enlighten me and numberless others of the unfortu-
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL said, if their Lordships
country. ' He rejoiced to observe that these Schools of nate Columbian bondholders when the New Grenada
would hear him,. he would show that the House be",
Design were spreading through the manufacturing dis- Government intend to commence the payment of the power to interfere. He then proceeded to argue that
the Commissioners had made.inaccurate reports to the
triets, and he hoped the time was not far distant when interest on their portion of the Columbian debt, which
House as to the instalments which they had receive"
the school in London would be a focus from which the was agreed upon to be 50 per cent.; the only payment out of this property. That was a matter into which lbe,
other schools might radiate so as to spread information that has hitherto been paid by that Government was House ought to inquire. They (the Commissioners/
threugh the country. The School of Design in London was the paltry sum of ss. 6d. per 1001.. bond. Sometime. had 1,2001. to account for, and to the schoolmaster of 111
gradually assuming a more central and normal character,
and he trusted that all the schools in the manefactur-
last year, lam told, and I believe it is correct, that school in Clonmel, to which the property belongt°'
M. Maquirree, the Minister for New Granada, in this they had only paid 100 L. He concluded by moving f°l.
ing districts would become subordinate to the School of
Design in London. These schools acre of the country has funds in his hands to the amount of a Select Committee to inquire into the charges which
utmost importance not only to the arts but to 60,0001. or 70, . 000/ , and hitherto he cannot be pre- he had made. .
, ,ecommended his Noble
the commerce and manufactures of the country. There veiled upon to, pay this money to the legitimate Lord WHARNCLIFFE il
Friend to lay a statement of his case before the .Lor
was also the general vote for education. It was an op- owners of it, viz., the unfortunate. bondholders. It is
Lieutenant, and, no doubt, he would receive some kind
probrium to the country in general that a vote of really " too bad" that this individual should hold this
of answer. The Commissioners were gentleman of the,
30,000/. only had been devoted to that purpese, money in his hands so long—he cannot look very highest responsibility, and, no doubt, they would explaio
and he understood that this year there wculd be a comfortable at the levee
,days,..ttnioatget the Apr. _atiep- that. eanthiata.
reduction on preceding years. Now, it was impor ant, lopatistsJ ShOuld'suppose. neage givy insertion to The Duke of RICHMOND thought that the House
that they should have an explanation from the, Goveree 'this letter with your energetic coMments upon it, 'ought not to expresss an opinion on a case which ought
ment as to how that sum had bee.n dividcd—whethcr it and main the conduct of these non-paying States, to go before the Court of Chancery. He was surprised
had been equally divided among ell religious dem-nein:a- and is• ,
lions, or had been confined to the British and Foreigntend .
.., .nay to elicit information from other to hear that the trustees would not bring their case" and National School Societies. Before they bed lef correspondents.—l remain, Sir, your very obedient before his distinguished friend the I ord Chaecellor or.
office they had determined to give portions of the grant servant, Ireland, becaus that Noble and Learnedj Lord was one
to certain schools, without reference to those to ce," "AN UNFORTUNATE HOLDER OF of the Commissioners of Education.
societies. They. ought to have some explanation on MEXICAN AND COLOMBIAN BONDS After a few words from Lord GLENGALL, and front
this subject from Some member of the Governinee t. Lord WHARNCLIFFE in explanation,
The Duke of WELLINGTON said that the case
There was another most important subject on which
-brought forward was subject for inquiry in the Court o',
.
they ought to have some explanation. There bad been
Chancery. , He had net been able to understand who
vast sums left by the pious bequests of our ancestors,
the case of the Noble Lord was'.—(A laugh,) There
which had been at first appropriated and afterward;
:
misappropriated, in the grammar schools of the country, was a Board of Education, and there were Commissioner
of Education, and it was impossible to guess against
That was a eventually
whom the accusation was made.—(Hear. hear.) There . question which must ,
come under the consideration of the Govermennt.
They ought to state annually what steps been l
was an Executive Government and a Court of Chance,
:
taken to place those schools on a proper foundation. who would do any aggrieved persons justice.
He knew not why education, the most important of all HORSE RA CLNG BILL.
things, the preventitive of crime, that which ought o be On the motion of the Duke of RICHMOND, counsel
for the petitioners against this Bill will be heard to'
to all other improvements, should not receive
the first consideration of any Government in th,s count, y,
read *
molt:hroewc(utsttliosindsa3glatitefsot(trlstl,e'clooci.k3.lan)
Bill
was
yet that had hitherto been the last. They had hail no
third
.time, and passed.
statement made by a Minister of the Crown on the sub-
The House then adieurned at Half-past Seven o'clock.
ject of education ; yet, .in despotic Governments, an an-
nual report was always laid before the Minister of the
Crown he serves. He maintained that it would be better
for the public and more conetitutioral, if her .Majeste 's
Government adopted the plain English mode of giving
full explanation on the subject. Ile was aware that this
was a subject to be approached with delicacy in a fr,-e
country like England. He believed it would be strictly
impossible to. make education in this country a strictly
Govermental measure, but though they could not con-.
trol the education of the people of this country they migh t
do much to assist it. Ile was always of opinion
that though the people of this country in education
would not submit to control, yet that much might be
done to forward it. He thought it a disgraceful thing
that there was no public library in this country ; there
was no other nation in which such institutions did net
exist. In this country, with the exceptiou of the British
Museum 'there was no library that could be called a
national library. In Paris there were no less than five
public libraries which were open to every class of society
from the highest to the lowest and to the subject of
every country. There were four other libraries that
were admissible to the public among which were the
magazine library and. the library of the arsenal,
In Russia there were also libraries, all of which were
opened to the public. .In ' *Saxony there were also
public libraries, several Of. which were in Dresden :
and even in Turkey itself, showing that that country
was before England in that respect.—(Hear, hear.)
Even the British Museubn was Hot open to the poor man
and the citizen, as were the libraries of Paris, for it was
necessary to procure au introduction, in order to be
admitted into it. He thought that the two propositions
which he made were reasonable, and he believed they
Would be -finally assented to. Ile firmly believed that, if
her Majesty's Government took the matter into their
serious consideration, they would not only do a great
deal of good, but would obtain a great deal of public
panegyrie.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord HOWICK said he concurred. in much of what
had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman. He believed that
much remained to be done, in the way of provid-
ing the means of education for the people ot this country.
because as their population increased in density the
facilities of misleading them also increased. It seemed
to him to be a source of considerable danger, that great
masses of the population Were growing up without
any due means ot instruction or information.—(lleer,
hear.) He agreed with the Hon. Gentleman, that it
was not desirable that education should be made a Go-
vernment measure. There was not in this country suf-
ficient of mutual toleration among the religious bodies.
into which the population was divided to rea-
der it possible that any thing like a aystem of
education being formed with advantage, and in this he
thought the Dissenters were as much to blame as the
Church, and the Church as much as the Dissenters.
He thought her Majesty - judged wisely, after the
failure of last year, in not renewing a similar
experiment again. But he thought they had experience•
enough to prove that the Government could do a great
deal to stimulate education wi;hout even a legislative
enactment. What they should aim at.was to create a
desire fur education amongst the people, and to enable
parents to distinguish good schools from bad schools.
What be should suggest was, that there should be
a partial examination of the children of different
schools by examiners, to be appointed by
the G-overnmen, who would give certificates to theeg
who answered best. Though there might be sore
difficulty at first in getting. the children to attend,
he thought that a great change would very soon take
place in that respect, when they perceived what great
advantage was derived from the possession of certificates.
They all knew how earnestly the inferior situations of
the lower departments of the public service were covsted
by Persons in the lower ranks of life ; and if a
small number of situations, such as those of tide-waiter.:
or excisemen, were made the prizes for proficiency
at the public examination, it would be very beneficial.
This, he was convinced, would make these examinations
very successful. By a small sacrifice of patronage on the
part of the GoVernment an immense advantage might be
obtained. •He could not but think that a small portion
of the Government grant for education would be well
applied in giving rewards to those schoolmasters who
proved themselves worthy of them. He believed that
a comparatively small sum thus applied, would
go further than anything -else to raise the general
standard of the qualification of public schoolmasters.
He believed this to be a most important subject, and one
well worthy the attention of the Government.
A short pause here ensued, and no one rising to ad-
dress the House,
The SPEAKER proceeded to the next Order on the
paper, which related to .

ALFRED LIFE ASSURANCE—,
On Wadnr*y;--the General Meeting AILS .held at
their offices No. 7, Lothbury. The chair was taken
by Sir David Scott, Bart. From the report it ap-
peared that the Company had been established five
years, and over and above the paid-up capital, had
accumulated the sum of 48,537/.. 14s. Id. Since the
formation of the Association, 513 policies had been
issued, assuring the sum of 442,4281. The number
of claims from death had been six, upon which 3,7501.
had been paid. The profit realised from lapsed poli-
cies amounted to 3,595/. 18s. 10d., consequently the
difference between,these two salmi, 1.541 Is. 2-d4'
was the. only charge upon the assurance fund for de-
cease of lives assured. Such a result was very re-
markable, as upon the most moderate calculation, six
teen or eighteen should have occurred, upon which
from 14,000/. to 16,000/. should have been paid. TA
appeared that the annuity branch of the Company's
busine:s had been equally satisfactory ; 31,8271.55. 4d.
having been sunk with them for the purchase of
annuities. Of the annuitants five had died, relieving
the office of annuities- amounting to 544/. 6s. 3d.
The report was considered highly'satisfactory, and
unanimously adopted,;' and thanks having been voted
to: the Chairman and Directors, the meeting separated

HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 18.
PROCEEDINGS ON THE POST-OFFICE
COMMITTEE.
Sir R. PEEL said he was unwilling to throw °Pr
ecbnical difficulty in the way of the motion which the
Hon. Gentleman had made, although he thought be was
justified, according to the rules of the House, in object-
ing
seii
to a Member of that House stating anything t`'
respect to the proceedings of a Secret - Committee•
but he was unwilling to debar the Hon. Gentleman the
opportunity of making his statement. No notice of
motion had b, en given, and he (Sir R. Peel) was' at '`
loss to understand the grounds upon which the nee'
Gentleman had made the present motion. The
r IMPERIAL PARLIA:3IIENT. House would recollect the circumstances under
HOUSE
which this Committee had been appointed. Whe-
HOUSE OF LORDS, July 18.
the proposal was first made almost unqualified satisfac-
AGRICULTURE. don was expressed with respect to the formation of that
The Duke of RICHMOND presented 120 petitions in Committee.—(Cries of " No, no.") • Ile did not mean t°_,
favour of agricultural protection, some of which included say that it was universal, but the Committee was allowed
a prayer against the Anti-Corn-law League.
to be appointed without notice being given. Thal'
THE ALIENS BILL. e, - a - Committee was composed of men well kno'
Lord BROUGHAM-begged to draWahe attentions of for their impartiality . and . intelligence. In that
their Lordships to the subject of a Rill which had Committee the majerity of - the members were
come up from the other Rollie, and which opposed to her Majesty's Government. Four members,
stood for the second reading. As the law now stood, were in the habit of voting with her Majesty 4
aliens were subject to great disadvantages in this Gorernment, and five With the Opposition, and the
country. They could not hold office, nor inherit frees whole of those five members voted for the motion of the
hold property, nor possess leasehold property ; neither Hon. Gentleman for a Select Committee. That Coats
could they own a share in any ship. The kW would opt- mittee had sat for several das, and left it to everi,
rate with great severity in cases of persons born
of Member to judge whether her Majestyhe's Government hau
marriages in which one or other was a foreigner. withheld a single fact from the knowledge of the Coal'
lie knew a most eminent lady who held an mittee bearing on the inquiry, and whether they
English and . Scotch . pserage in her own right ; had thrown the slightest obstacle in the w3Y,
but she had married a Fresch nobleman-;and it she 'of the -- inquiry, or imposed the slightest
had a son born in France, that son could not inherit her impediment in the any of the examination of any person
titles or her estates in the kingdom. The law of Eng- whatever, either under the control of her Majesty's
land was the most illiberal of any nation in the world. Government or not. Her Majesty's Government had n°
In France the nation of any country was allowed to personal interest in the question which the Hon. Gen-
buy or inherit land or any kind of property, tleman had submitted to the House. He certainly
and to hold office, just as if he were a native of France. should feel it his duty to advise the House to adhere t°
In respect to Ireland, however, the legislation of that that course which had always been adhered to with re-
country had been as liberal to foreigners as that of spect to Committees of that HOuse. The question at?,
France, for aliens could
,purchase property, hold whether the House now repented the confidence which P
..
office, or even sit in Parliament, as freely had placed in the Committee. It was from no feeling of
as a native, mail the 36th of George the Third. disrespect that the Hon. Gentleman had not been placed
The object of introducing into the Act of settlement the ou the Committee. He conceived that permission being
disqualification of foreigners from holding office, was to given to the Honourable Member to attend that
prevent the foreign favourites of the King from
.heing Committee, he not being a member of the Coln"
preferred to Englishmen.—(Hear, and a laugh.) . But mittee, and not subject to the responsibility
the Spitalfields weavers—or such as were foreigners— which was imposed open members of Secret Commit teet4
were disqualified even from holding the office of, parish would, he thought, be casting a reflection on the House ;
constables in their own parish. Now the cost of an Act it would imply on the part of the House a distrust both
of naturalisation could not be less than 100/. But were in the stability of the Committee, and their desire for a
there not many foreign, artisans whose skill would searching and perfectly fair inquiry into the whoabe of great value to this country, if they were not dis- transaction—secret-office and all. At the same time he
qualified in such a way, and could not get over the assured the House, and the report which the'Cominittee
disqualification, except at such an enormous,
,and, would make would bear testimony to the fact, that her
to them, insuperable expense ? The report of the Majesty's Government were interested in no way what; Committee of the House of CoMmons was a most ever in the decision which the House might come to; and
just one, but in some respects he did not altogether con- he felt it his duty to call on the House to adhere to its
cur in its recommendation. In the Bill which he was forms, and regardless of any personal imputation til'
now about to call their Lordships' attention to more par- might be thrown upon hint, as the representative of the
titularly—the Bill to which he alluded in setting out— Government, that he had some object in excluding the
he proposed to add a clause, that the wives of British Hon. Gentleman, he felt it his duty to resist the pre-
subjects should be naturalised by the fact of their marri- posal of the Hon. Member ; non could he support the
age; and that in all Acts of naturalisiation the clause proposal which had been made for the lion. Gentleman
prohibiting a naturalised person to sit in Parliament, or to appear before that Committee, in order to be ,resent
hold office under the Crown, should be omitted. It was at the examination of the witnesses. If the accusers
a strange anomaly that the naturalised foreigner could were to be present, in order that the evidence might he
not hold the humblest office under the Crown for fear given in support of the accusation, why should not theme
the should betray the country. to foreigners, whereas if be present also who were accused' ese
?he were chosen as the husband of the Sovereign, the Mr. DUNCOMBE—I have no objection to that. ,
Act of Settlement would be so far suspended, and he Sir R. PEEL—The lion. Gentletnan felt the justir,
would be endowed with all British privileges. of that, and expressed his readiness to acquiesce in
e,'" •
Lord MONTEAGLE preented a petition from the but he (Sir R.
Peel) claimed no such privilsge. He
Chamber of Commerce, Dublin, in favour of the Dublin thought the House ought to adhere to their establishe" '
and Cashel Railway.
rules. The Government were indifferent as to the ,
de-
The Marquis of WINCHESTER presented numerous cision to which the House might
come, because helve°
petitions in favour of agricultural protection, venture to say that the I louse would be satisfied that h.!: ART-UNIONS. Majesty's Government had concealed nothing from
t"
Lord MONTEAGLE moved the second reading of the Committee. They hid no wish to conceal anything;
Arts-Unions Legalisation Bill. Re stated that the ob- but he felt that he had a duty to perform in the posi,ti:
ject of the Bill was to exempt the members of those in- in which he stood, regardless of any imputation wi'l'b
stitutions from the penalties to which they were sup- might be cast upon him.
posed to be liable under the Lotteries Suppression Act. Mr. ORI) was understood to oppose the motion.
These institutions were founded upon the report of a Mr. LABOUCIIERE , said it would be well for thebe
Coinniittee of artists and friends of art, and were in finite- House to recollect the principle they had adopted ini.ter
lion of the one established in Prussia, under this auspices appointment of this Comtnittce.—(ilear, hear.) Ti'aie
of the King tend the direction of Baron von Humboldt. had departed from the usual precedents in for
Since the artsunion of London was established, it had ing Committees ; for they had determined that
distributed * more money for the encouragement of art they would have no lawyers on the co be
than the liberality of Government had contributed in the mittee that the aecte•er himself should not all
same time.
present—and also that they would exclude fromoe.
The Duke of CAMBRIDGE-10,0001 more.—(Hear.) those who did hold or had held high offiee in her .0e
Lord MONTEAGLE--Members of both Houses of jesty's Council.—(Hear.) Ha confessed that at the ti ,
s-ace
Parliament, and of the present as well as of the former he thought this was a fair principle, but circuresta his Government, and those distinguished persons, with took place a short time afterwards which excited judos
13,612 other subscribers, were liable to penalties, as en- mind, and in the minds of many other Memb:near,
gaged. in illegal lotteries. Their Lordships had lately greatest possible surprise.—(Loud cries of
~10,
i hear.") He found from the usual organs of intsbiece
sanctioned the principle of a Bill to give to the persons
non that a committee on - the same sel-14e,
who incurred penalties in gaming on horse-racing the 1
had been appointed by the House of -I'‘ difs
same protection which he asked them to give to those
most laudable institutions. The enactments of his Bill
i,ter
which Committee was formed on a totally e
were two—first, an indetenity for all the proceedings ferent principle than that suggested by the Al.in,. eof
that had taken place; and secondly, that any art-union ! for the House of Commons. For, on the Committee
which should in future obtain a royal charter oti the ap- the Lords were three ex-Ministers, two of them t'-:.‘0,7
proyal of its rules and regulations by the Board of ex-Chancellors, Men, of course, accustomed te, ihe '"p,
Trade, should be a legal body, aed be empowered to dis_ ! skilful mode of examination eit'eer fl'r GO'
he
tribute works acsording to the provisions of such charter pressing or for eliciting infesanation. If the
of the Crown, or permission by the Board of Trade. 1 vernment meant to feet upon a totally differ, ibis
The petitions in favour of the Bill had come from every I principle elsewhera, ihey ought not to have puru U ,