The Sun.
London, England, 1868-08-11 00:00:00

711 E LAST VETO MESSAGE.

The Veto Message on the Bill throwing out the
Electoral votes of the uneonstructed Southern
States is as pretty a piece of writing, as it is use-
less. Considering the Act to be grounded on the old
error that these States never were out of the Union,
the President asks what right has Congress to dic-
tate terms to them, or to alter the method pre-
scribed by the Constitution of counting and re-
ceiving the electoral votes. Ile declares the only
votes Congress Can take and count are those given
under the old system of State Governments, the
new Governments being illegal. In the Senate,
in reply to Mr. Davis's rema:k that the reasoning
was unanswerable, Mr. Howard said it was one of
the most incendiary documents emanating from
that source, and he was ready to meet this issue
and take up the glove. In the House it was greeted
with laughter, and the question was discussed as to
whom Andrew Johnson alluded as the rebels in
New York, Mr. Eldridge asserting that they were
the Rennblicans who urged that the " wayward
sisters" should be permitted to depart in peace,
while Mr. Farnsworth considered they were Sey-
mour's personal friends, including Seymour himself.
We agree with the Senator who called the message
an incendiary document, and though we have grown
accustomed to a President stigmatizing a Congress
as acting in a manner wholly illegal, yet this is
really incendiary in so far as it gives the highest
authority for a party in defeat to resist by force a
result they may assert to have been obtained in an
unlawful way. The President continues his argu-
ment to combat the enactment of Congress that
4, none of the States whose inhabitants were lately
in rebellion shall be entitled to representation in the
Electoral College," &c. If all is meant, then no
State can be brought into the category. If some,
then nearly all States, North and South, ought
to be included. A portion of the inhabi.
tants of New York, and a portion of those
of Virginia were alike engaged in the Rebellion, yet
Virginia is denied the right of voting, while New
York is permitted to vote, though the latter is no
more a State than the former. If Congress has the
power to deprive Virginia of this right, it can exer-
cise the same authority with respect to New York
or any of the States. Thus the result of the Pre-
sidential election may be controlled and determined
by Congress, and the people be deprived of their
rights under the Constitution to choose a President
and Vice-President of the United States. We are
surprised that the President should continue to
waste valuable time in an argument that might
become a school boy's thesis, but is practically
ineffectual, at least for good. It is notorious
that Virginia was one of the States which joined
a Confederacy after severing its connection with
the Union, and that New York did not, whence it
is obvious that they cannot be discussed in the same
category. Yet the President persists in arguing
as if the Confederacy meant nothing, and the war
meant nothing, and his little Constitutional reasons
were the only things of real substance and value.
If the States have all the rights he claims for them
they were sovereign, and had the legal right to
secede, and if so they are out till brought back to
the Union. If they had not, their act was that of
rampant rebellion, for which the conjueror has a
right to impose a penalty. States can be criminals

as well as individuals and forfeit rights by outrage.
When one citizen assaults another, although the
other may whip him, he has still the legal right to
make his assailant pay the penalty of a breach of
the peace. And this holds for any corporation or
community up to a State, though no law may ex-
pressly include States. But a President, instead of
arguing, ought to accept and weigh facts, and ex-
tract all the measure of good while fending off all
the evil he can ; and it has been Andrew Johnson's
bane and that of the Southern States that he could
never travel beyond his own pretty little arguments,
which look very well on paper, but practically are
worse than useless.—Angh-Awerican 'Times.

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