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should be suspended, that they might constitute a Com-
mittee for the remainder of the session. He trade this
motion in consequence of the departure of so many P. ers
from Parliament, that it was difficult to a ;eta full attend-
ance at all the Committees, before whom there was a great
arrear of business.
Lord WICKLOW did not approve of the motion.
It was the duty of the Peers to attend to the Commit-
tees, and they ought to be compelled to do so.—(Hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM said that a great cause of the
the arrear was the want of accommodation for the
Committees. Much more regard was had for the glory
of the architect than for the convenience of the House.
(Rear, hear.) But he hoped that, if the aecommoda-
waas nal sufficient next year, their Lordships would dim
taat glory a little.
'The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said, that every
architect in the country admitted that their Lordships
could have been provided with a suitable House, and
adequate accommodations within the seven years
that had already passed. He hoped their Lord-
ships would insist upon the works being proceeded with
la a more expeditious manner, and that they would
compel the architect to hare proper apartments ready
by the next session.
Earl FORTESCUE hoped that it would not be ne-
cessary to act upon the resolution, which, however, he
would not oppose.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said that hitherto the
attendance of Peers had been as full as could be ex-
pected, but the object of the motion was to provide
against the possibility of a deficient attendance at the
close of the session, when so many Peers would be leav-
ing town.
After a few words from Lord COLBORNE,
Lord REDESDALE withdrew his motion, and gave
notice, that, if necessary, he would renew it on Monday.
ACTIONS FOR GAMING SUSPENSION BILL.
Das The Marquis of NORNIANBY, in the absence of the
Olike of Richmond, moved the third reading of the Ac-
%. for for Gaming at Horse Races Bill.
The Earl of RADNOR opposed the motion. He
contended that the defendants in these actions had no
,Claim for the protection or the interference of Par-
liament. When they incurred these penalties,
they knew they were acting unlawfully.—(Hear.)
That was proved by the evidence of Mr. Tat-
tersall and other witnesses. Some parts of the
evidence were exceedingly painful. One gentleman, a
ifelloa, of one of the universities, stated that he had been
victimised" by two of his friends—gentlemen—( A.
laugh)—and fellows of the same university.—(A laugh.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR—Cambridge ? Give
hs the right name.—(A laugh.)
The Earl of RADNOR said this was a Bill to prevent
a man from obtaining a pecuniary advantage, which
,tiitn he law, as it stood, gave him and encouraged
to seek. There was no doubt that the
act which the actions were directed against,
was illegal, and the evidence before the Committee
showed that it had been ruinous to many, very
haY. The only means which the law provided for
;a eking so great an evil was by these qui tam actions.
Thepassing this Bill the House would do a great injustice.
Earl of STRADIMOKE, and Lord FOLEY supported
the Bill.
After a few words from the Marquis of NORMANBY,
is reply, the Bill was read a third time and passed.
SLAVE TRADE.
en
The Earl of ABERDEEN, pursuant, to notice, laid
Earl
table the latest instructions given to the naval
lOfficersangaged in the suppression of the slave trade.
there was nothing to conceal, the greatest publicity
the
desirable, which would give the best refutation to
Ile calumnious accusations against this country, that
Zt(ler the pretence of a regard for the interests of hu-
-atanity, we were only seeking to extend our own corn-
leerce. and to increase instruct naval power. When he came
bileoffice, he found the ons to those officers ex-
bre!mely vague and imperfect. He had applied himself to
ring them into a more perfect state. He had found that
Was the practice when new treaties were entered into
With foreign nations on the subject of the slave trade, to
send out to each of the officers in command a copy of
er,
treaty without any explanation or instruction what-
Now
as there were thirty of these treaties, the
house would understand how difficult it was for
to officers to know in what way they were
act. On this account he employed a num-
a is of gentlemen well acquainted with the subject
revise the instructions. These were Dr. Lushington,
at.r. Eandinell, Captain Denman, and Mr. Rotherheath,
Doctors' Commons. These four gentleman revised
isue instructions, which were afterwards submitted to the
to!, o.fficers of the Crown, who reduced them to the
Zrat in which he now placed them on the table. In
:7tataining this subject ho was astonished at the discre-
(pi and prudence which had been displayed by our
ulcers in this service, although occasionally there
might have been some errors of a slight nature from
Zeal
ahrrather in excess. It was, however, as he had said,
p rising to observe the prudence, discretion, forbear-
-I:and consideration, which those officers had shown.
11(.11ear, hear.) It was to be borne in mind that Eng-
hvue eT:del not alone put down the slave-trade. She must
h ',tie co-operation of other nations, and to obtain that
must convince those nations that she has no selfish
;?Jects, and that she regards their rights and privileges. Alueh had beeri done towards the suppression of the trade, but yet very much remained to be done. For
Several years, down to a very recent period, from 90,000
to 100,000 slaves had been imported into the American
aalld Spanish slave-holding States. From the year 1768
down to 1830, the number of persons torn from Africa
uetuated from ninety to one hundred thousand ; from
1830 to 1835, the number fell to an average of 58,000;
but, in the four following years, from 1835
to 1840, the
average rose to D 9,000. But, in the last three years,
1841, 1842, aid 1843, notwithstanding the reproaches
cast upon ;;he present Government for remissness in this
matter, the average had fallen to 25,000.
Lo;edBROUGHAM—Under the present Governmont?
The Earl of ABERDEEN_ resent
so. In the course
of last year, the number of lavess imported from Africa
had been larger than in the precedingo
to the necessary withdraw it yearts, partlyowinge
s
dron from the coast of Brazil atoparprotect Britishi
persons and property, during the senseless war which i
was going on between Buenos Ayres and Monte Video,
anda partly to the change which had taken place in the
e of Captain-General of Cuba, General Valdez hay.•
ing been removed, and another officer appointed, who I
was less inclined than his predecessor to discourage the
trade. Spain and Brazil were the only countries that .
how benefited by that trade, for Portugal had shown
every disposition to fulfil the treaties. He had no hesi- i
tatio honestly executed their treaties with this couatry, the
thea!aeve-trade would be at an end ; and he would assure
Rouse that no efforts would be spared to enforce
rt.', tse treaties, to which England had as undoubted a
,ilch as to the possession of a ceded province or town.
arnerc was, however, some promise on the part
Spain. The excellent person who held htely
Cheee post of Captain-General, had obtained au
er from the Government in Spain, founded upon
With this which were agreed upon
with this country in 1835. —(Hear, hear.) There was
ens°, rnUch encouragement in the fact that the most
—l."iat understanding prevailed between her Majesty's
icil.aadron off the coast of Africa, and the fleet of the
aat!ited States. France also had lately shown a dispo-
.fil°n to co-operate more earnestly than heretofore.
Ireb.Proapects of success were therefore much improved.
17likslear, hear.) He had always been of opinion that an
waPserfeet watching of the coasts of Africa and America
r°!aart injudicious employment of our force. We knew
must what part the slaves must come, and whither they
ford t be carried.—(Hear, hear.) On that account the
lvehad been increased at these two parts. It had
state ea pretended that part of the coast of Africa was in a
of blockade. That was not true. Every facility,
ava-arr was given to commerce, and y employ-
eia", of the force was to watch those vessels which the
etiitciPal law of this country, and our treaties with
szn nations, authorised our naval officers to enter and
Of A sufficient force would be kept up on the coast
razil to secure any slaver that might escape the
vigilance
of the cruisers on the coast of Africa.
fa,;Lue Earl of MINTO was very glad to hear so satis-
hztore a
ai,aa speech. But he must say that he never
aaa.",:ef any complaint on the part of the officers, as to
nre:„.'dficulty in understanding their instructions. Ap-
ttaa'leg as he did entirely of the system which had been
eelteci, of closely watching the particular part of the
balt3aataq -Africa from which slaves were exported, he felt
it to say, that if a sufficient force were employed,
but 4st Prove an effectual means of checking the trade ;
sem:" feared that the naval force employed was not
ateat
440rt1
Of COLCHESTER having, in the command of one
Majesty'stion! ships, acted under the former instruc-
the 1;' when the officers had in many cases nothing but
the are treaties to guide them, must, in the name of
her gentlemen engaged in that service, return thanks to
'Ode a•niepsty's Government for the complete and intelligible
laid sa instructions which his Noble Friend had now
seattita,t}le table. These instructions would give those
Th—",ett a confidence which they never felt before.
the i- ° -tar' of HADDING I'ON wished to explain that
Ivithtearease in the slave trade last year, as compared
, • tha-aa Preceding two years, was not altogether owing
theaa)t,ectinval of the ships to the river Plate. That re-
tiet nowever, was rendered necessary for the protec-
aathe lives and property of British subjects.
the MINTO said that the force was diminished by
the total Withdrawal of part of the force, besides the
„As,
Icry,of two or three ships to the La Plata.
With e Lail of CLARENDON expressed his satisfaction
• the
Joieea speech of the Noble Earl ( Aberdeen). He re-
to that her Majesty's Government had reason
was °Pe for the co-operation of France. He
been in lso happy that Spain had at length
In th iced to send out the order which was contained
sPals treaty which he (Lee d Clarendon) had made with
Wile:h in 1835.—(Hear, hear.) He wished to know
the 041. it was true that Government had sent orders to
baase rs on the coast of Africa, not to destroy the
calha,,e,°_lla.(in which the slaves were confined previous to
et,ion) without the permission of the native princes?
eapec79 not, he regretted to say, join in the sanguine
Ithiet.'!ll9lls of his Noble Friend. After all the expense
the this country had lavished for the suppression of
fewer de, he feared that at, the present time, although
ataxia negroes reached the West Indies alive, a greater
peirisuker were torn from their families and friends, and
trod ed on the way, than were stolen when the slave
It was in its free and most open state.— Hear hear.)
hones greatly to be regretted, that General Valdez—as
at the uenevolent and wise a man, as ever was placed
Genet lee of a great empire —for such Cuba now was—
ia
Spain sparteru had been compelled by public opinion
07111 to order that excellent man not to be so active
Englandnt?, the trade.—(Hear, hear.) The treaty with
s.ptai„ tawas roost flagrantly violated by the present
'tear.) --"eneral of Cuba, General O'Donnell.—(Hear,
aeaal'eaT) country but England had honourably and be-
trade. ut Y applied itself to the suppression of the slave-
tient, --(Rear, hear.) -Ha thought that our Govern-
ought to the fulfilmentof the treaties n
te.part _ last on
Perliterk."' n and Brazil. It was said that our ex-
'ef abolishing slavery was a failure. But the