The Sun.
London, England, 1868-06-16 00:00:00

lIAPERIAL PARL I A HEN

HOUSE OF LORDS—LAST EVENING.
The LORD OHANOELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack
At five o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Chichester Cattle Market, London and South.
Western Railway, and Islaryport District and Harbour
Bills were read a third time and passed.
THE CHICHESTER AND MIDHURST RAILWAY

BILL
This bill was road a second time.

THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS' BILL,

Earl STANIIOPE said that in bringing before, them
some points with reference to the question of public
rehools, and asking for soma papers, ho 'had 33..,thin,;
to say about the bill now before the Souse of
Inninon.s. This bill was precisely the saoe as tha..
.vhich had bleu pointed out by the commission tv.-2 Year;
ago, and he sincerely trusted that the bill woul 1 141.3--
.urued to thorn But he would pint out th it this bill
;bye no power to the commission with regard to the course
if • study to be pursued at public schools; yo';
this subject was one of these most discus red
.13 the zommission. Ho did not, however, wish that the
oill should lay down any coarse to b 3 pursued, but that it
should be left to the discretion of the governing body of the
school, and he would give them power so to direct them. 113
personally considered that the study of classical lau-
'pages ought to be retained, and in certain reports from
the adult schools it was found most a Ivautarou3, bat
he did not think that it should b3as it was 5) years ago,
adieu no other subjects wore stu lied. Matho:natics were
not thought of in some public schools until 1851,
but now they had become a most important feature.
Since the subject was last discus 331 in that hens.) French
had become most important study. The system at Eton
underwent a most important part in the change, an I
ao doubt would be the school 'to take the
lead in this reform. The stu ly of mo bra
history and natural science had made important strides.
Ira felt the great advantage of the encouragement
of natural science. If possible, he would ask their
retaining all the 'ancient branches of study, that
as many as possible of the new ones should be introduced,
but he was afraid, having regard to health and the labour
of the brain, that all could be so employed. He
could not but think that Gr,ek composition, both in
prose and . verse, shoul 1 bo omitted, and that it
should only be submitted to a certain class of stu-
dents. The noble earl then diverged into various topics
connected with the course of study at public schools, and
concluded with moving for the educational papers of which
he had given notice, and also suggested that there should be
a new commission appointed, consisting of the governing
and teaching bodies of universities, and also the govern-
ing and teaching bodies of the public schools, who should
decide upon the course of study to be pursued.
Lord CLARENDON thanked Lord Stanhope for aga'n
bringing this matter before the house.. He did not wish
to follow him into the question of Greek or Latin verse,
but he had quoted quite enough to show that any educa-
tion confined to Latin and Greek was an unnatural one,
and that it was a miserable mis-spending of the best years
of a boy's life. These languages were undoubtedly the
basis of a liberal education, but if they were taught on a
better system there would be abundance of time for studies
which would fit boys better for the practical age in which
they lived ; without overtaxing their brains or interfering
with their recreation, they might be much better qualified
than theysnow were for the battle of life.
The Duke of MARLBOROUGH thought it was prema-
ture to discuss a bill which was still before the House of
Commons, and which they had undoubtedly taken great
pains to perfect.
Lord LYTTELTON concurred generally in what Lord
Stanhope had said, but thought that the responsibility of
inaugurating a change in the present system rested with
the Universities, for till the Universities rewarded the
study of physical science and modern languages with
emoluments as well as honours it would be useless to ex-
pect the chief public schools to deviate to any great extent
from the course now adopted.
Lord STANHOPE then withdrew his motion for copies
of memorials or petitions on the subject, on the assurance
of the Duko of Marlborough that none such had been re-
ceived. The subject then dropped.
The County Courts Admiralty Jurisdiction Bill was read
a second time. After a few observations on the Sale of
Poisons and Pharmacy Act Amendment Bill, the Duke of
Marlborough briefly explained its provisi ms ; but
Lord REDESDALE announced his intention of moving
on the report a most practical clause, to the enet that in
future all poisons must be kept in " poison- bottles" of
peculiar shape. Fatal mistakes were often made in the
dark, and these would be avoided in all cases by having.a
universal bottle of such peculiar shape and character that
any one who teek holl of it would at once know it. was
" the poison bottle."
The bill then passed through committee.
In reply to Lord TRURO,
Lord MALMESBURY stated that it was the intention
of Government to give a holiday on Saturday to all in the
Government departments who were Volunteers.
Their lordships adjourned at half-past seven o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—LAST EVENING.
Tho SPEIKER took tho chair at 4 o'clock.-

CHEAP PUBLICATIONS, &c.

Mr. HUBBARD asked the Secretary of State for 013
Home Dopnrtment whethor his attention had been directed
to the lamentable amount of juvenile criminality, largely at-
tributable to the sproal of cheap publications and theatrical
representations of an exciting and immoral eh tractor, which
corrupt the children of the lower classes, and stimulate
them into courses of dishonesty and vice; and, whether
the Government proposed any remedy for these growing
and most serious evils ?

Mr. HARDY said his attention hai Wen directed to the
publications referred to, but he found that, although b td,
they were not of such a nature as to warrant a criminal
prosecution. They were sensational, no doubt, but not so
bad as had been represented. With respect to the theatrical
representations he must say there was a great deal of (mtg.-
geration,and in all the places visited by the police nc immora-
lity had been discovered. There was, however, room for
great improvement, and if the hon. member could suggest
any thing that would be likely to check the objectionable state
of things, he should be most happy to consult with him.

LAW COURTS IN EGYPT.
Mr. L A.YARD asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affabs whether he had received any proposal from the
Egyptian Govarnmmt on the subject of a molitication
of the Capitulations, and the in'rodtaction of improved
Law Courts in Egypt, to which all foreigners should be
amenable ; and whether ho would lay upon the table of the
house copies of the daspatches recoival on the subject.
LorJ STANLEY said communications had been re-
ceived on the subject, and it was at present and ,r the so-
rious consideration of her Majesty's GJveramont, as well
as other Earopeati Powers. lie should have no obj action
to give the despatches received in October last.
TEIE INDIAN ROUTE.

Mr. GOLDSMID ailc3d the Secretary to the Treasary
whether, in consequence of the opening of the Foll Rail-
way over Mont Canis, her Majesty's (J vernrnaut intended
to adopt the Brindisi route for the Indian mails; and,
whether they had made auy application t) tie Fron3ll
Government to put an end to the twelve hours' detention

in Paris of letters posted for Italy by the ovJning mails?
Mr. BOOTII said the opening of the railway had not
been lost sight of in the contract entered into with the
Peninsular and Oriental Company a short time ago. With
respect to the detention of London letters for Italy in
Paris, it was quite true they were unavoid tbly detained
for a few hours, but such was not the case with letters go-
ing through Paris from the English provinces. The de-
lay was at present unavoidable.
THE NEW LAW COURTS.

Mr. WA LDEGRAVE-LESLIE asked the First Com-
missioner of Works whether the statement in the Builder
of the 13th of Juno, that Mr. E. M. Barry, A.R.A., had
protested against the appoiltmeut of Mr. Street as archi-
tect of the New Law Courts, on the ground that such ap-
pointment was at variance with the letter and spirit of the
conditions of the competition entered into by the architects,
was a correct statement ?
Mr. BOOTH said it certainly was true that a protest had
been given in by the gentleman named against the ap
pointment of Mr. Street. It had not b3en received nut'
after the appointment had been made public.
ABYSSINIA.

Mr. LAYARD asked the cause of the delay in bringing
forward the vote of thanks to Sir R. Napier.
Mr. DISRAELI said unfortunately the whole of the
despatches had not yet been received. The information
required was the names of the persons the Commander-in-
Chief wished to bring to the attention of the Government.
It was most desirable that such should be in the possession
of the Government previous to tha vote being moved, and he
had every reason to hope that the despatches would ba in the
hands of the Government in a few days. Colonel Milward
and Colonel Fraser had arrival from Magdah, but neither
of those officers brought the information required. lie
would give ample notice of the day on which the vote
would be proposed. (Hear, hoar.)
THE REVIEW AT WINDSOR. -

Lord ELCHO said it was generally known that Her
Altijesty proposed to review the metropolitan volunteers
in Windsor Great Park on Saturday next. Now, it
would b 3 a very great facility if a holiday was
given to the volunteers in the public offices' on that day.
He thought if the Government gave leave of absence to
-all volunteers in the public offices on Saturday the ex-
ample would be followed by private firms, and the result
would be that a great many volunteers would be enabled
to attend. He therefore wished to know whether the
volunteers in the Government offices would on Saturday
next be excused attending to their official duties ?
Mr. DISRAELI said he had great pleasure in informing
the noble lord that notice had been already given to the
public offices that Volunteers would be at liberty to attend
the review at Windsor on, Saturday next. (Hear.) If in
any department of the public service the notice had not yet
been received, he would see that it was transmitted thereto
immediately. He hoped the example would bo followedby

The private firms, and that the review would go off with
th 3. best possible effect. (Hear, hear.)
THE ELEOTRIC TELEGRAPHS BILL.
In reply to an HON. MEMBER,

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said' this
bill would be taken the first thing on Thursday.

ORDERS OF THE DAY.

Mr. DISRAELI moved that on Tuesday, the 7th day of
July next, and every succeeding Tuesday during tho pro-
sent session, orders of the day have precedence of notices
of motions, tho right being reserved to her Majesty's
Ministers of placing Government orders at the head of the
list. He thought that if the proposal of tho Government
were adopted, they would be enabled to facilitate matters
to allow of dissolution without the inconvenience of a
number of morning sittings.

Mr. GLADSTONE approved of the arrangement, and
the motion was agreed to.
MORNING SITTING.

Mr. DISRAELI moved that the house meet to-mon-ow,
at two o'clock in the afternoon, and transact business up
till seven o'clock in the ovouiug, and then suspend their
/itting until nine o'clock.
The motion was agreed to.
THE IRISH REFORM BILL.

0, the motion for the houso going into committee on

is bib,

Tho SPi AKER told Mr. Rartrdon that his motion rola-

tive to a reLtal franchise was at variance with the
rules of the house, upon which the lion. member at once
withdrew it.

Mr. SANDFORD moved thatthe disfranchising schemes
be given up, except so far as Portarlington was concerned,
and that the member takm from th ure be given t Kiag
town.

• This nppeal was backed by Ur. HENLEY, who, point-
ing to the number of amendments on the paper and the
time of year, urged that unless something of the sort wero
done it would be difficult to get through the business of the
session.

Sir P. lIEYGATE and Sir H. BRUCE also criticized the
Redistribution scheme from a Conservative point of view,
complaining it was not just to Ulster. Al it had given
satisfaction to neither side, the Government, they thought,
would do well to drop it.

Mr. Pim and Mr. BAGWELL protested strongly against
the policy of aggrandizing county representation at the
expense of the boroughs; and Mr. FORTESCUE agreed that
no public interest would be injured by postponing the Re-
distribution scheme to a future year, but it was so un-
satisfactory that if it were pressed ho should do his best to
substitute sonic other plan for it.
Mr. GREGORY, on the other hand, urged the house not
to confess itself incompotont to produce a complete mea-
sure for Ireland. The difficulties might b 3 found out in a
very short time. Mr. Gregory dii not agree with those
who thought the counties over-represented, pointing out
that agriculture was the chief interest of Ireland.
Geaeral DUNNE maintained that Ireland had as good
a right as Scotland to additional memieers, and Mr. Law-
son protested against the suggested disfranchisement of
his borough (Portarlington). There was not the same
necessity for extinguishing small boroughs in Ireland as
in England, for, with one or two exceptions, every town
over 10,000 population was represented.

Mr. 11. BAIL LIE also recommended that the bill shoull
be limited to the enfranchising clauses, and after some re-
uhrks from Mr. Synan, _

Mr. DISRAELI wound up the conversation by remark-
ng that the suggestions just mi.da should have the care-
ul consideration of the Government.
The house then went into committee on the bill.
Oa cl Luso 3, regulating the borough occupation frau-