The Sun.
London, England, 1844-01-25 00:00:00

We find the following amusing story in the
Journal du iiiivre of Thursday :—" One day last week, at
Caen, a young and pretty Englishwoman, with long auburn
hair, fresh complexion, rosy lips, and airy step, and with a
pleasing smile upon her countenance, entered the shop of one
of the principal marchands de nouveautes. On seeing her, the
shopmen passed their hands through their hair, stereotyped
their most fascinating smile, and each did everything, in his
power to attract the notice of the pretty customer. The lady
addressed herself as if by chance, to the master; who was not
a little flattered at the preference. 'Je voule avoir une chile,'
said the lady, with her pleasing English accent, and the gal-
lant tradesman immediately began to display his choicest ar-
ticles. Yes, yes,' said the pretty lady, with a smile, Vous
etes_ profondement aimable, Monsieur le marchandise,'
on examining one, and finding the colour too light. Another
was presented to her, which she found of too large a pattern.
At length, one of the most beautiful seemed to please her, and
the price was soon agreed upon. The handsome Miss was
about to take it, when suddenly, as if recollecting herself, she
raid, 'Je eller laisser vous la petite chile, je avois oublie
le bourse u moi dans le hotel.' The polite tradesman could
not allow this, and compelled the lady to take away the shawl.
' Mais,' said she, archly, ' si je allais saucer moi sans payer
vous.' The tradesman said he was perfectly easy on that Lead,
as it was impossible for so beautiful a lady to be guilty of de-
ception. . Yes, yes,' exclaimed the daughter of Albion, and
disappeared, with the step of a fairy. On the following day
the tradesman went to the hotel, and discovered that his beau-
tiful customer had left by the Ilavre steamer, taking with her
the shawl, but forgetting to leave the money. He imme-
diately set off in pursuit, and, arriving at Havre. was fortu-
nate enough to find her. On seeing him, she said, ' Yes, yes,
je avais oublie de payer vous, la France it etait pas bon pour le
memorie 3 moi, voila le argent, je demande bien pardon pour
la petite dissgrement."l his time the tradesman forgot all
his gallantry, and leaving the lady, without even taking off
his hat, returned home with a resolution to be on his guard in
future against la perfide Albion."

IRELAND.

THE STATE TRIALS.
(FROM OUR OWN REPORTERS.)

( The examination of John Maguire, continued from our
Third Edition of Last Mght.)
DUBLIN, TUESDAY.
They did not march two and two, rank and rile ?
—They did not march two deep, but some of them did.
How many of them did so ?—Some more and some
less.

Were they short or long ?—Don't know.
Well, take the largest party, and say how many came
two deep ? (The witness made a very long pause.)
Mr. Hatchell—Well ?
Witness—Well, Sir.
Mr. Hatchell—l say ill, Sir ; go on.—(Laughter.)
Well go on ?—The largest number of a party might ex-
ceed 100.
Did they come i❑ two deep ?—Some of them did.
Will you swear that any one body of them came two deep ?
—Some of them came two sleep in a kind of military order.
Oh a kind of military order, was it?—Yes.
virtue of your oath, Sir, did you not swear a moment ago
that they came in rank and file?—lt was a kind of rank and file.
Like mounting the Castle-guard ?—Exactly se.
by virtue of your solemn oath, will you swear that any one
of the parties you saw came in order such as the guard goes in
when relieving the other guard at the Castle ?—Some of
them did.
Was there any entire party who came two and two?—Some
of them did.
On your oath were there not a great many women and chil-
dren there ? Yes ; the women and children came after Mr.
O'Connell.—( Laughter. ) I mean after he came into town.
Did they not come in with the men ?—They might have
come in after the men.
Were they not with the men ? Some of the parties 1 de-
scribed had no women.
Was there any party with women and children 7—Yes.
Were they with all the parties r—They might have come
after the parties.
Were there not lots of women and children in the military
array ?—They might have followed the men.—(Laughter. )
The women and children followed in the rear ?—On the

sides.
Then the women were beside the men ?—ln some cases.
Were they mixed with them?—Not with those men who
came in as I described to you before.
Mr. Hatchell—l do not want• to entrap the witness, but I
want him to give us a fair and honest statement of what took
place, according to what he saw.
Witness—l am disposed to do se.
Now, you talked of a drum-major ?—I did.
Do you know what a drum-major is ?—I do.
Had he a silver-headed cane in his hand ?—He had a stick
in his hand, the top of which was either silver or something
representing silver.
It was the band-master had that ?—No ; the drum-major.
Is that the band-master?—No, it is not.
You knew them to be temperance bands, did you ?—No ;
they were all strangers to me.
1 know you did not know them personally ; but did you
know them to be temperance bands ?—I was informed that
some of them were.
And when the meeting was determined, and the speeches
were over, all the people returned quietly home?—They
And their wives and children with them ?—They all went
away.

At what hour ?—Between four and five o'clock.
John Jolly was the next witness produced, and being sworn,
was examined by Mr. Brewster, am head•constable
of Cork, East Riding. I remember a meeting at Mallow en
the 11th of last June. I was there. It was on Sunday. 1
went in uniform to Mallow, but I changed my clothes before
the meeting took place. Before the meeting commenced I saw
a procession. I saw it pass through Mallow in the direction
from which I was told Mr. O'Connell was to come. I cannot
recollect the place where it passed. I was a stranger there.
The procession was a very numerous one. There were several
bands. There were persons on horseback. The procession
marched in regular order with bands and banners ; the bands
playing and the colours flying. Several of them had cards at-
tached to their button-holes to distinguish them from others.
More had paper round their hats with the words " O'Connell's
Police" written upon it.
Describe what order they went in ?—They marched four or
five deep. The horsemen went much in the same way, ap-
parently in regular order.
Did you see persons taking more particular command than
others ?—I
Describe in what positions in the procession they were ?
They were outside the body, or the ranks, as I may call it, and
appeared to give directions to the others. Some of the horse-
men who did take this command had wands, with something
like ribbon tied on the top. It was late in the evening when
the procession returned. Mr. O'Connell and Air. Steele re-
turned with it. Ido not remember ever to have seen se large
a meeting.
How many think you were there ?—I think there were some
hundreds of thousands. I have never seen such a cro•.vd before.
In what part of the procession were Mr. O'Connell and Mr.
Steele ?-1 did not see them in the procession, but I saw them
on the platform.
Where was the platform erected?—lt was erected near
the shambles in Mallow.

Was it a large place ?—lt was a very large open space, and
it was very noarly full; I went near to the platform; I was
about ten yards from it ; sometimes nearer, but the place where
I stopped at last was about ten yards from the platform.
Did you take a note of the proceedings ?—I did not.
Did you hear Mr. O'Connell's speech ?—Part of it.
Are you able to state the substance of any part or parts of it ?
—I am. The first thing that was done was to present an address
to Mr. O'Connell ; so at least I was told, for at that time I
coald Not get near enough to the platform.
What did you hear Mr. O'Connell say ?—He first said that
he came to tell them a secret, and thought there were enough
of them to keep it.—( Laughter.) lie told them, too, that the
Union should be repealed by some time that I cannot exactly
remember.—( Laughter. )
Did he mention any time ?—He did. He also said that they
should have " Ireland for the Irish. They might have
England for the English, and Scotland for the Scotch, but
Ireland should be for the Irish ; and that he defied them to
keep it, for they were too numerous, too determined, and
too temperate." He said that on the face of the earth there
were not a greater pack of bribers than the British House
of Commons, and that was admitted by some authority he then
gave. He then asked the crowd, did they ever hear talk of the
man with the ugly name ? Sugden—(Laughter.) He said a
friend of his in Kilkenny told him he would not call his pig
" Sugden "—(Laughter)—and as for the Lord Lieutenant, he
was so ignorant that he heard he sent a commissioner to see
if Kilkenny was a seaport.—(Laughter.) He then alluded to
the police. There were some members of the police there,
and he spoke of them. He said that if they had made applica-
tion to him, he would have appointed several of his own
police to keep the peace, and save the police the trouble of
coming there. He said they sent the soldiers to shoot them,
" but," said he, " they know a trick worth two of that."
—(Laughter.) He said, "if we are attacked we will defend
ourselves. The sergeants of the English army are the finest
body of men in the world, but the worst treated. The French
sergeants were generally raised to the rank of officers;
they were a great deal better treated than the English,
by being promoted to the rank of officers." He also
began telling the crowd the effects of repeal. He said the
labourers would be farmers, the farmers gentlemen, and
the gentlemen Members of Parliament—(Loud laughter, in
which the Court and jury joined)—no, not Members of Par-
liament, but Lords.—( Repeated laughter). He asked the
crowd, Would they be ready to come again if he wanted them,
and desired as many as would to hold up their hands. The
crowd held up a wood of hands. He said when they came again
he would require them to come armed, but the arms would be
repeal cards.
Mr. Brewster—Did you observe anything particular—l
mean in his tone and gesture, when he was then speaking ?
Yes, he paused when he said " armed," before he said " with
repeal cards;" the meeting lasted about two hours. I saw
something occur on the platform before the meeting commenced
which attracted my attention ; some one on the platform—it
was before Mr. O'Connell came—pointed out a person in the
crowd, and desired him to leave the meeting ; he said he
should be put out by force if he did not leave it. He said to
the Crowd, " Cut his reins, drive him out, he is an enemy." I
did not see this person, but I think he was on horseback, as the
other said, " cut his reins."
Cross-examined by Mr. Whiteside—Are you acquainted with
Mr. Johnston ?—I saw him.

When did you see him last ?—I saw him in the Court to-day.
Did you see him last night ?--Yes.
Did you then know he was examined yesterday?-..1 did.
Did you talk about the trial with him ?—No, he was away
from me.
Have you not seen him frequently before the trials cem.
menced ?—Yes, I have.

Did not he tell you he came here to be examined ? He did.
When did you see Maguire last ?-1 saw him last night.
May I ask your rank in the constabulary ?--Head constable.
You are not an officer then ?—No.
Pray, where are you stationed ?—ln Ballingcollig, about six
miles from Cork.
May I ask what newspaper you take in ?—I take in no
newspaper.
Well, then, what newspapers do you read ?—I am glad to
see any of them.
I suppose you read the Cork Constitution9—Yes.
Did you read an account of the Mallow meeting in any cf the
newspapers ?--I will answer candidly ; I did not read any
account of the meeting. I have no recollection that I did.
Try and remember ?—I cannot recollect. Upon my oath I
do not.
Will you tell me to-morrow if I meet you ?—I cannot recol-
lect that I did.
Will you swear that you read no account of the meeting in a
newspaper will not.
'Were you ordered to go to Mallow ?—I was.
How wero you dressed ?—I went in regular uniform.
Were you in Mallow the night before ?—I was not. I went
there in the morning.
Did you meet other policemen there ?—Yes.
Were the policemen dressed in uniform?—They were.
Waa Mr. Anderson, the sub-inspector, there?—He was.
Does not he know Mallow better than you do ?—He does,
What time did you undress ?—I can't say exactly. The
procession was going through the town at the time.

I Do you swear the full procession was going through ? I say
a part was going through. The last part of it.
What time did you leave the street to undress 7-1 was not in
the street then. I undressed in the barracks.
What time of the day did you undress ?—I should think (he.
sitating) about. I cannot exactly say.
You are very precise about the words Mr. O'Connell used.
What time did you put on the disguise ?—Was it one o'clock.
It might be about one o'clock.
Was it one o'clock ?—lt might be more. I think it was.
between one and two.
Did you see the whole of the procession ?—I don't know that
I saw the whole of it. I saw half of it.
What half did you see ?—The last half.
Where did you see it ?—I saw it going out of Mallow.
Are you a constabulary man am.
You have fought no battles ?—No.
Oh ! then you are not a military man, you are a civil man.
Now, Sou have said the procession marched in military or-
der, with bands playing, colours flying—are these words your
own ? Are they your own spontaneous effusion ?—Yes.
Were you not frightened by this military array, close columns
and marching order ? —No.
What tunes did the bands play ? Did they play " Paddy Ca•
rey," or " Paddy from Cork," or " God save the Queen ?"-•
I took no notice.
This was not a military procession ?—No, a civil one.
There were bands of music and banners ?—I saw a great
many bar.ners.
What do you mean by the horses being in apparently particu•
lar good order—were they fat ?—That would be good order.
Now, what became of the guns and muskets, the cannon,
the dead and wounded of this battle 7—There were none at all.
The horsemen were mounted five or six a-breast, and mor•
after them.
Are you sure the horses' tails were not tied together?
Were there real living men on them ?—There were.
And wo.uen behind the men ?—Yes, on pillions.
Now tell us, did they charge you or you charge there ?—I
did neither.
had the women their arms about the men?—They were
holding on.
Now, I have to ask a question suggested by Mr. Ilatchell.
Do you conceive that an offence against the arms order ?
(Great laughter. )
So, with music playing and banners flying, and women
with arms round the men, they marched out of Mallow
Yes.

Were there no children there ?—lt would not be a place foe
them in the crowd.
Were the bands temperance bands or timperance ?—I do
not understand timperance.
I beg your pardon. I assure yeu I mean no impeachment
on your moral character. I wish to know do you think it
better that the people should amuse themselves playing manic
or drinking whiskey ?—lndeed, Sir, I prefer the former.
Why, you know in either case they are prosed, quocungu•
via, as we lawyers say.—(Laughter.)
Did you make any report of this battle ?—I made no report.
I took no note.
How, then, do you recollect Mr. O'Cennell's speech
Because I took a great interest in hearing Mr. O'Connell speak.
Are you a Repealer? You took a great interest in Mr.
O'Connell's speech, you say ?-1 was glad to listen to a good
speaker.
You had better wait a little, then, and hear Mr. Hatchell
and the rest here ?--I would be glad to hear gentlemen of
eminence.
How did you take a note of the pause? Are you not to
allow a pause in speaking ?—Certainly, Sir.
I wish to know how, because it is odd a witness yesterday
said Mr. O'Connell paused?—l took no notice at all.
Mr. O'Connell told the people to come armed with the Re.
peal card ?—Yes.
Now, when you heard the word armed did not yen nudge
the man against you ?—I was nudging him to get on as quick
as I could.
He said the sergeants in France got promotion—you cocked
your ears at that ? Now, do you not expect to be promoted to
the office of Head-constable when the trial is over ? I have s
a great respect for the constabulary, and like them in any cha-
racter save witnesses ? That is for the Inspector-General.
Well, the Inspector-General is a reasonable man, and don't
you think it reasonable that a useful, active man like you should
be promoted?—lt is reasonable.—( Laughter).
So Mr. O'Connell said when we got it (Repeal) the labourers
would be farmers, the farmers gentlemen, and the gentlemen all
Lords?—There will be no commoners then.—( Laughter).
You will be a Lord yourself—(Laughter)—Lord
collig ?—( Great laughter, in which the whole Court save the
Attorney-General joined).—He said so.
Tell me now, which is all this treason, conspiracy, sedition.
or flat burglary?—(Continued laughter).—I never joke when
I am on my oath.
There was a country fellow on the platform, who told a per.
son in the crowd, whom you did not see, to be gone, not
creating a disturbance ?—I did not know what he might be
doing.
You have idle times in the north, I think ?—lt is very sin-
gular, the less I have to do the better I like it.—(Laughter.)
Now did you not say you never joked when on your oath?
—.That is, really, no joke Sir.—( Loud laughter. )
You were not much pressed on that day ?—lndeed I wets
by the crowd.—( Continued laughter.)
Why you are joking again ; but there was nothing more
to incommode you—your whiskers were not pulled ?—The
crowd was very great.
Were there ladies and gentlemen among them ?—Neither.
Did you dine comfortably that day, and had you a good
bed ?—lt was pretty hard.—(Laughter. )
When did you leave Mallow ?—That evening.
When did they ferret you out as a witness ?—About the
month of December.
Are there any respectable people in Mallow ; any propriee
tors in the town • shopkeepers or landholders near it ?—Plenty.
Why, then have they pitched on yon, a policeman, who
escaped to tell of your imminent hair-breadth scrape from the
scene of slaughter "?—( Laughter. )—I was sent here.
Now, Sir (here Counsel addressed the witness in a tone of
the most dramatic gravity, amid the roars of the whole Court)
sincerely trusting you may speedily obtain that promotion
which you so richly deserve, I have to wish yon a very good
morning!
Re-examined by Mr. Brewster—Mr. Anderson was near the
place of meeting. He was in the Court-house, and could pot
hear what was said.
The witness then withdrew.
The next witness called was Henry Godfrey, police con.
stable. He was examined by Mr. Freeman-1 was a con-
stable in August. 1 remember the 6th of August. I was
in Baltinglass on that day. I was stationed at Donerd. It
is about eight miles distant from Baltinglass. I was ordered
to Baltinglass the evening before the meeting. The meetinf
took place on Sunday. I saw a great number of persons
there between twelve and one o'clock. I observed persons
coming in on large waggons ' from the Rathvilly side. They
had a band with them. I saw banners. I did not observe
any inscriptions. The meeting was held a little outside
the town. I saw the Rev. Mr. Nolan before the meeting toot
place. I heard him desire the people to go and meet Al"
O'Connell. I heard a. man say the shouting will frighten tLN
pigeons. Another said, " Yes, and the Protestants too.
This was before the Rev. Mr. Nolan desired the people to p
to meet Mr. O'Connell. I was dressed in plain dress. 30'
Mr. O'Connell came in about cne o'clock. I heard a man sal
" This is the day that will frighten Saunders." A gentleman
named Mr. Robert Saunders lives about two English
from the town. The expression was made before Dr. (nw e
nell came up.
Mr. Fitzgibbon—When did you make the memorandum cut
w"of which you are reading ?—On the day the meeting w
over. miles

To Mr. Freeman---I attended the place of meeting ; lOf
Mr. O'Connell, there, and Mr. Nolan, Mr. Farrell, and 311.'
Copeland ; I saw the two Aletcalfs there, and a person whf
was pointed out to be Mr. Steele ; I would know Mr. Steele •
person (the witness here identified Mr. Steele who was sitting
near him in Court). Mr. O'Connell was there also ; he re.
collected him saying that he did not despair of getting the Be:
peal, fir he had the people to back him ; he also said there were
some millions of money sent out of the country ' • he did ou:
say how much; he stated that the taxes were to be paid on'
of some fund; he heard him say something about Lord Wick;
low ; he heard him call Mr. Felton a " bog-trotting agent;
does not recollect that he heard him say anything more.
Did you hear Mr. O'Connell say anything about meeting the
people again ?
Mr. Fitzgibbon objected to the question. Mr. Freetnia
had no right to be leading the witness this way.
Mr. Freeman—Did you hear him say anythingabout tithes
Mr. Cantwell said—Really in justice to my client I taus
interfere ; this is not fair.
Chief Justice—You must not interrupt the Court, AirS
Cantwell.
Mr. Cantwell—l must, and hope I shall do my duty, psi'
Lord, and I hope your Lordship will do yours.
Chief Justice— fhe Court will do its duty, and if you inter'
rupt it again you will be removed forthwith.
Jr.A Cantwell—l am satisfied that the Court will do Ili°
duty but I must bring under its notice an illegal question-
Chief Justice—lt is not your duty to address the Cot"
when you have Counsel to do so.
Mr. Freeman—Do you recollect that Mr. O'Connell stie
anything more?—He said when he came again he hoped all t";
people would be there to meet him. He heard the pecipte °Lir
say that they would get the Repeal, now they were e).l sor
and determined men. He saw Mr. Lawless, a Romr_n Cstui,%'
lic clergyman there. He heard him say that tithe', would '""/
done away with. He talked about going to Debi:in, and said
the Protestant clergymen were civil, and would join him, they
s•
would get the tithes during their lives. He teJuld not sal "fra
many people were there. He was in a crowd , and there
a great number of people around him. He w.as not alone, Oh
was sometimes another man with him, s.nei sometimes not. r
Cross-examined by Mr. Fitzgibbor,--Were you a strange
in Baltinglass ?—No. I had known it. ten or eleven years.
You were very well known there as a policeman ?—Yes'
How long have you been a policeman ?—Twelve years. 0
Were you all that time in Balt,inglass ?—I was not. Iyr
stationed eight miles from it.
At this meeting you were mot molested?—No.
No expression was used painful to your feelings ?.....One Prri'nA
said, " This is the day the:t will frighten the pigeons,
Baltinglass dialect, police ,uen.)
There was no attetr. pt to remove you front the crowd
No.

No attempt to do,you injury ?—No.
You might brie got up to the front of platform you -ha
the if
liked ?—Yes,
Like any other person in the meeting?--The same.
other person la .„itla
Can you tell us the name of ayt was "'"
you ?—No„
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When the observation was made about the pige on otip
there not some one who replied, " and frighten the Protest"
e
too ?"—Yes.
You plainly heard him ?—Yes.
Were you within a yard of him ?—Yes.
Did yott do anything 2—No.
Did you know the person, or ever see him ?—No. min°
What sort of man was he ?—fiet appeared to be a e-
tryman.
Then you cannot name any person who heard that OPreo
sion besides yourself?—No.
at
tba
You cannot name any person who was about you
time ?—I cannot. There were millions of people about, of
(Laughter.)—l made it my business to keep oat a di...,
all
_people
you whomean I thou
to
would know me. .
Then gen d° say that during that day you yoo
voured to avoid the eyes and notice of those who knew
—I did.
What did you do to avoid the eyes of those who knew /o outher
I would shift from any place when I saw them into
part of the crowd.
Lest they should see you ?—Yes. iu
Did you expect that shuffling for
to another p•ac kperf
crowd, would prevent your being seen by those wbo°
you ?—I did.
Did you dip your head?—No.
Did you hide your head?—No. aa g to
Then, what you did when you saw an aequaintance,througb
shift your way through the crowd ?—I worked my WO'
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the crowd with my face up. I endeavoured to make
through them,
around
Did you find any place in the crowd when looking'
•
you, you could not sea any men who knew you' —.l cannot tsY
Where was that r—ln front of the platform ; tyards,
how far that was from the platform; perhaps twen I Dlevel
sometime* it might be ten yards ; I was in front 0 the
Thee' •• I
Hotel, which is about a mile from Baltinglass, when .e _
words, " This is the day when we'll frighten Ssulisr"cilbs;,,=
cannct tell the name of man, woman, or child, that heard might
phrase ; I was close to the man who said these woront
I din " • J have seized him; I cannot tell ou who he was;
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