The Sun.
London, England, 1850-12-20 00:00:00

2,000/. altogether. I examined the premises to see if
there were any appearances of the premises having
been broken into from the outside, but I feund none.
The two keys are those which I found in the safe, and
the lock of the shop-door. I have not seen one article
since, nor have I been able to trace any.
John Wiscard—l am an assistant of Messrs. William
and Clapham. On the night of Monday, the 21st of
October, I was at the shop, and it was my duty to secure
the most valuable portion of the stock in a safe and
glass-case, and take the keys of both, I did so on this
night, and amongst other things there were put away
55 watches, 67 watch-chains, 720 rings, 100 watch-keys'
a quantity of diamonds of the value of about 1,9201.
There were also brooches, bottles, pencil-cases, and other
things amongst the things in the safe. It was about half-
past eight o'clock when I locked up the safe and case.
The boy Clinton was shutting up the shop at this time.
The keys of the safe I looked up in a drawer, and took the
key with me. The glass-case I locked with a key on
my own ring. The boy let me out, but I think Kelly
and his wife were up stairs at the time. At nine o'clock
the next morning I found that the house had been plun-
dered in the manner described by Clinton. The
glass-case and iron-cafe were open. There was another
key belonging to the glass-case which was kept in the
cashbox, and this key I found in the case. The cash-
box had been broken open.
Charles Kelly—ln October last, I was porter to Wil-
liams and Clapham, and lived on their premises with my
wile, but lam not now in their employ. On the 21st of
October I went out in the evening, about twenty minutes
to seven. I left the last witness and the boy Clinton
there, the former in the shop and the latter in the first-
II _Kir, which commanded a view of the street. My wife
and children went out also when I left. I came back
about ten minutes past nine o'clock, when I found the
shutters up and the premises closed, and I noticed that
there was a light in the shop. I knocked, and Clinton
opened the door and let me in. My wife was at home
then. Clinton then left the premises for the night al-
most immediately. I then shut the front door, locked it,
and put up the small chain, leaving the key in the door.
I was in the habit of looking round the shop
before retiring for the night, and on this oc-
casion I went round, but I did not make a
minute search. Between the two shops there is a sort
of lobby, but when the two shops are shut there is no
appearance of the door of this lobby, which leads into
the street. At night the large cocoa-nut mats used in
the shop are placed in this lobby. I did not look into
this lobby. There is a back shop, the door of which
opens inwards, and when it is closed there is space
enough left for a person to conceal himself behind. I
did not go into this back shop, but I noticed that the
door was open. I fastened the place up for the night,
and finally left at about 20 minutes to 11. I took the
key of No. 14 out of the door and carried it up with me.
I was not disturbed in the course of the night. I came
down about five minutes before seven. The stairs lead
into No. 14, close to the safe, and directly I came down
I found the iron safe, with the glass case and window of
No. 14 open. A good deal of property was gone, and
on examining the shop I found some wax candles
and two chisels, with a key in the door of
No. 14, and the safe. I also examined the lobby of No.
13, and found that some person had been there after I
left. The bolts of the front door were undrawn, and the
chain still up. On finding this to be the state of the
premises, I opened the front door and called in a police-
man named Harrison
George Harrison—l was the officer called in by the
last witness. I remained upon the premises till Inspec-
tor aield came.
Inspector Dodd—l went to the premises about quarter
to eight o'clock in the morning, after the robbery, and
found Harrison. I produce the keys and a crow-bar
which I found in the counting-house at the back of the
shop, near to a cash box, which had been broken open,
and seine wax candles. I noticed the condition of the
mats in the lobby of No. 13, and they were so arranged
as to appear as if some one had been secreted behind
them. I examined the premises outside, but there was
no indication of their having been broken into.
Inspector Lund gave similar evidence—The robbery
must have been committed from within. On the Friday
after the robbery I went to the shop and found the pri-
soner Clinton, and in consequence of what he said I went
over the water, and found the prisoner Badcock at a
public-house nearly opposite Rowland Hill's Chapel. I
was sitting in the parlour when be came in. The mo-
ment he saw me he immediately left. I followed and
caught him at the corner of a street. He appeared as
though he was going fora necessary purpose. I told him
that I should take him into custody for being concerned
with others in the Strand robbery. He stated that he
knew nothing of it, and said he had not seen Clinton for
some time. I had told him Clinton was in custody, and
had confessed. He said he knew nothing about it, for
he had not seen Clinton. That was all that passed.
Cross-examined by Mr. PARRY—I took Shaw into
custody. Shaw said he had not seen Clinton for some
time. I arrested Badcock in the evening of the 25th. I
remember arresting Shaw at the White Horse, Fetter-
lane, the same evening. lam sure lam not making a
mistake in saying that Badcock told me that he had not
sects Clinton for some time. Having looked at my de-
positions taken before the magistrate, I still think Bad-
ceck told me that he had not seen Clinton since the
Sunday we« k previous. Badcock returned with me
from the urinal next the public-house. I have never
beard anything either for or against Badcock before this.
Joseph Thompson, sergeant of the F division, said,
on the 26th of October last, in consequence of informa
tion I received I went to St. George's-circus, in the
Westminster- road, where I found the prisoner Gardner
end Cheruneau walking together. It was about one
o'clock in the morning. I spoke to them. I told
Gardner I wanted him for the burglary in the Strand.
He made answer, " Oh, we shall see." And I told the
woman she must go also, and calling a cab wo all got in.
I was accompanied by Sergeant West. I proceeded to
the station where the prisoner Clinton was in custody,
wbom I showed to Gardner. I asked Clinton if that was
the man he let into !he shop. He said, without looking
at him in the face, he is very much like the man. I
said look at him well in the face, and see if it is the
man or not. He looked at him, and said he was the
man. Gardner replied, " Good God Almighty, I never
raw the boy before in my life." I said to Clinton, look
at him again to be perfectly satisfied that he is the man;
he did so, and still repeated that he was the man, while
Gardner insisted that he had never seen him before in
his life. I asked Gardner what he was and where he
lived. He said he was a traveller and lived anywhere.
I asked him, " Where do you live now." He replied, " I
do not know, it is somewhere down the Kent-road, but
I don't know the number." I srched him Red found
this key, which opened the outer door of 25, Temple-
street, and 6/. 10s. in gold. The woman gave her address
25, Garden-row, London-road, and the two prisoners
v. ere then locked up. On the same morning I went to
32, Pevill-row, in the Borough, about 8 o'clock, and there
I found the two Bunchers. I had seen them, but did
not know them before. I told Buncher that he must
consider himself in my custody for this robbery.
Buncher said he knew nothing about it. They were
both taken into custody, and seeing the woman fumbling
about her pockets I told her to turn them. She brought
out a duplicate and a piece of paper. She rumpled up
aeother piece of paper, and I said, " Just let me see
what you have got there," when she attempted to put it
in her mouth, but I prevented her and took it from her.
When I took it from her she said, "It is only a letter
about a loan, I did not want him to know anything about
o," (The paper was here read; on one side there was
something about a loan, but on the other was a list of
j well ry, in pencil marks.) When I took them to the
station I showed Buncher to Clinton. I asked Clinton,
Is that the mats that you have spoken to about the
rebbery ?" and lie replied, " Yes." Buncher exclaimed,
" Good Lord Jesus Christ!" I asked the boy if he was
certain, and he said he was.
Cross-examined by Mr. PARNELL —I am quite certain
the woman did not tell me that she lived at 25, Temple-
row, because I went to Garden row, and could find no-
thing zbout her. I returned and told her so, and she
said, "I do live there with the old woman; it is on the
left side of London-road, a good way up."
Re-examined by Mr. BODKIN —lt is not on the left-
hand side, but the right.
William Webb, one of the sergeants of police, ex-
amined by Mr. CLARKSON—I wee with Thompson when
he took Gardner and the woman into custody, and rode
with them in the cab. On the way to the station Che-
runeau was about to say something, and Gardner said,
" Hold your tongue," and she said nothing. When I
got her to the station-house I asked her it she had got
anything about her. She said, " No, I have nothing but
a piece of cheese," which she toele out. I then asked her
if she had got any money, and she said she had a
little. I said, " How much have you got ?" " Oh,"
she said, " that does not matter," and I re-
plied that I must have her searched. The female
searcher then came in, and on searching her she
found this bag, which she gave to me, and
which I now produce. It contained 158 sovereigns and
a half. I asked her how she came by it. She said,
" My father sent me 501., and the remainder I got the
best way I could." I then asked her how he sent it, and
she said by a Post-office order, or something of that

sort. •
Cross-examined by Mr. PARNELL—She did not say
anything about going to America, or that she had col-
lected money for that purpose.
Hannah Green, the searcher, stated that she was de-
sired by the last witness to search Cheruneau. When
she was about to do so she produced a bag of money which
ate said she had collected to go to America with Henry
Liddle.
Henry Liddle, examined by Mr. CLARKSON—I used
to work with Shaw at the brass-foundry in the Borough
About three or four days before the robbery I was at
Shaw's house in the Borough, when I heard Badcock say
to Mrs. Shaw, "I have seen Charley and he tells me the
robbery is to come off on Saturday evening;" that
Charley had told bim that he had taken an impression of
the keys, and had given it to the men to make them;
that Charley had told him that if he would meet him on
the Saturday night be would let him have something or -
give him something. Mrs. Shaw made some remark in
reply, but what it was Ido not know. I know the lad
Clinton, and I have several times seen him in company
with Badcock and Shaw, perhaps about three weeks or a
month before the robbery. Iha ve seen him come to the
place where Shaw lives.
Cross-examined by Mr. PARRY—Jt was not two
months before I was first examined at the police-
court that I had seen them together. This conversation
took place in the second pair back, and I went up for the
broom. When I heard it I was outside, and the door was
shut. I put my ear to the key hole. I did not ask her
for the broom, but I took it. It was outside. It is not
my usual custom to listen at keyholes. I have never
listened in this way before. This, I think, is the first
time I have listened. 'I did not put my ear totbe key-
hole, but, being on 'the step fading to the room,
I. of course, heard it. I was several times at the
pence- court, and at my first examination I think I
stated this fact about the key-hole, but I will not swear
it. I did not tell them that I put my ear to the key-
hole, but I, think it was at th© first examination that I

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