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being among the more important matters dis-
cussed :
Lord EDWARD HOWARD, in moving the poitpone-
ment of the consideration of the report, in order
that the motion upon education, of which notice
had been given to the members of the committee,
should be discussed, said that before he proceeded
upon this most important subject (the general
situation of the actual and prospective education
of the Catholic pdor in England, Scotland, and
Wales) he must recall to the committee its position.
It had been established by the bishops twenty
years since; the most successful Catholic institu-
tion there had ever been, owing in great measure
its success to the excellent gentleman in the chair
(the Hon. Charles Langdale) for the purpose of
communicating between the bishops and the Go-
vernment—thus enabling Catholic poor schools to
receive, as others did, grants of public money ;
besides this, it had to collect money, and to distri-
bute it to the poor schools in connection with it.
It was com Posed of clerical and lay nominees of
the, bishops from each diocese. Now, what was
its position ? In twenty years it had collected
£98,314, of**hich more than £ll,OOO were lega-
•eies besides this, nearly £lO,OOO for a training
school ; hitt tlie',llnoney of the first ten years
:ettd-Alie last ten years was' compared, it would be
found that in fact each sum was the same. Hence
the Catholic body had not given it support as it
ought, because while its contributions to the com-
mittee remained the same, it had in twenty-one
years more than doubled in the numbers of its
clergy, churches, and chapels ; and, looking at the
number of its charitable and other institution,:,
there might be, he inferred, a very great increase
in its position as to numbers who could be
cared for under spiritual supervision, and the in-
terest which was taken in matters connected with
it. This being the case, what were the numbers
of the Catholic body with whom it had to deal ?
He spoke before gentlemen who knew that in the
manufacturing districts congregations were only
waiting for priests and chapels to be put down,
when they appeared in unexpected numbers. He
was, therefore, inclined to take the higher estimate
of Catholics instead of the lower ones in this
country; and, of course, congregations being com-
posed of Irishmen who follow out the hardest and
worst-paid occupations, are attracted by the increase
*of manufactures; and, by their further increase,
might at any time be larger than now. He would
put them at 2,000,000. But it would be found
that if gentlemen chose to make large deductions
from h's estimate, very large numbers of unedu-
cated Catholics would yet remain. He the a gave
figures according to which education was yet re-
quired for numbers varying from, in round num-
bers,' 90,000 to 175,000, according to the views
which might .be taken in calculating, and the
allowances for deductions of various kinds made.
He also adverted to the large expense consequent
hereon, which, in 1866-7, was in Privy Council
schools £1 Is. 3id. a head. Such being the posi-
tion of the Catholic body, it became necessary to
most earnestly consider its requirements in face of
the great and rtcent development of educational
zeal through the country and in Parliament.
There were two bills in Parliament. One the bill
of the present Government; as to this, he thought,
as far as he could see, there was no harm, but if
availed of, greater facilities for establishing schools.
Apprehensions he bad seen mentioned lest the
enactment of a conscience clause should ultimately
lead to the ejectment of religious teaching from
schools. But he had also to mention the other
bill now before Parliament, and he thought, in its
ultimate results, legislation in this direction
threatened most strongly the religious e lucation
of the Catholic poor, and that, viewing the sudden
way in which great changes now occurred, this
danger must be viewed as at our very doors. -This
is not to be imagined as the object of the origina-
tors of the bill, but is very much to be feared
where minorities of a religious creed are mixed up
with those of other oreeds, as experience of the
most painful character but too well showed. He
then dwelt at length upon the contents of the bill,
showed how it originated from a gentleman who
held a high official educational position in the late
Government, who would thus represent it, very
probably, in the next. He showed that it was not
only brought in by a gentleman of Liberal opinions,
by one of Radical opinions; but the third name on
the bill was that of a Conservative member of a
very large county; hence members upon both sides
of the House favoured these views of education
which threatened Catholic education in a de-
nominational and practical point of view. He
went through the machinery proposed by the bill,
from which it appeared very unlikely that Catho-
lics would be represented in the management
of the new schools which would arise under
it. Catholics being of opinion that religion
forms an essential part of education, and this
view, certainly, as to a Catholic education, not
being understood or participated in by the
overwhelming majority of this country, hence the
danger, unless the schools could be established by
Catholics, in time to enable them to be supported,
in the manner pointed 'out by the proposed bill as
schools " in union " whenever it might become law,
which might be in a very short time. Although
the Government Bill, as proposed, did not seem
hurtful, yet it was alrea ly stated by leading states-
men that it did not go far enough, and one noble
lord was reported to have objected to its ineffi-
ciency on the ground that it did not reach the
Irish in the large towns. Of course, it is to these
Catholics that their co-religionists wish to extend
a Catholic education, the difficulty being the-ex-
pense and means of providing schools, and it- is
chiefly in their regard apprehension exists. The
Poor School Committee had done what they could,
but the means they had to spend were quite inade-
quate. He therefore moved a resolution request-
ing the bishop to take measures to endeavour to
induce persons to increase these funds, in order
that the Catholic body might have the means to
prepare itself for the great and sudden change,
the prospect of which was so near. It was im-
possible, as a Poor School Committee, that they
could allow the time to pass, without doing their
utmost to ward off consequences so fatal, and
which are so subversive of the satisfactory policy
of the last twenty years. Persons curious to read
debates on these bills may see them in the London
Morning papers, of March 18th and 25th. The
noble lord then moved the following resolution :
"The Poor SchoOl Committee recognizes the
critical position in which the Legislature may'

The resolution having been carried unanimously,
Lord Edward Howard, Mr. Weld Blundell, Lord
Herries (Diocese of Nottingham), and the Very
Rev. Provost Cookson (Diocese of Liverpool), were
appointed as a deputation to carry it to the bishops,
from whom a communication was subsequently
received, to the effect that they had ordered the
statistical returns applied for to be made up as
soon as possible, and to be furnished to the com-
mittee.
The following petition to both Houses of Par-
liament having been sent up to the bishops, and
received back from them, was resolved upon :
" The Catholic Poor School Committee, repre-
senting the Catholic bishops and laity of Great
Britain, has existed during twenty years. It has
been recognized by the Government as a council
of primary education. The committee has during
this time actively co-operated in the extension of
the system administered under the minutes of the
Committee of Council. They consider the deno-
minational system, by which the public grants are
distributed according to certain general rules of
equal application, to be based on those principles
of justice which alone can satisfy the rights of con-
science in the present state of this country. They
are also convinced that a careful regard to the
same rights of conscience can alone insure a con-
tinuance of zeal and energy on the part of mana-
gers. The denominational system now in opera-
tion has year by year. largely multiplied the schools
.d this country. As Catholics, they must ever
most jealously vindicate the principle that religious
teaching is the basis of all education. By this
system of State assistance each religious com-
munity has hitherto been able to base the education
f i,s children on its -religious belief. They
,arnestly hope that the, existing system may be
perpetuated so as to extend itself yet more com-
pletely to the poorest classes. They consider that
such an extension, carried out with proper safe-
guards and with generous assistance from the State,
will best meet the needs and the desires of the
country ; and that a system of national education,
based on such principles, may become both efficient
and universal.
The committee resolved to throw into the sum
it would give to building and support grants the
whole legacy of £l,OOO received in the past year
from the late Mr. Ritchie. It was thus enabled to
vote the sum of £1,490 to twenty-six building
grants, and the sum of £1,426 to 157 applicants
for the support of poor schools. The remainder of
its income was devoted generally to grafts in aid
of St. Mary's Training School, Hammersmith,
and of the Liverpool Training School of Notre
Dame, to make up what was wanting to these
training schools from the public grant, to grants
for reward medals in silver and bronze, to the ex-
penses of ecclesiastical inspection, and to some
other minor grants.
In reference to the general collection, the secre-
tary brought three points before the committee.
The first was the number of missions which sent
no collection. Comparing the return of 1867, up
to the present date, with that of 1866, he found
727 collections received this year, against 766 re-
ceived last year, and 157 defaulters this year,
against 122 last year, while the sum total of col-

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- - -
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in the previous June. Fron these three causes
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the committee. They could be arrested by the
authority intervening at the time, but, if left un-
censured, they had a tendency to reproduce and
multiply themselves.

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regularity of the collections in behalf of the Poor
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The third meeting
t. atla /on
4.- 4
Wednesday morning, 7 .4 ',thus
Hotel. There was ag • .f dele-
gates. Mr. E. Butler, of Leeds, presided ; supported by
Mr. P. A. Taylor, M.P., Mr. H. Cossham, Mr. E. Miall,
Mr. W. Edwards, Mr. Carvell Williams, &c.
The Rev. W. GRIFFITH (Derby) moved, and Mr. GRIM-
WADE seconded, the appointment of the executive com-
mittee, council, and officers. A short general discussion
took place, and the feeling was generally expressed that
the executive committee should prepare a tract to meet
the " No-Popery " cry which was now being so unscrupu-
lously used.
In support of the resolution, •
Mr. P. A. TAYLOR, M.P., said he could not resist the
temptation as an old member—he believed he might say
aboriginal member of the society--of attending on that
occasion and offering his congratulations upon the great
and marvellous stride that their principles had obtained.
(Cheers.) Church rates were as good as dead ; the Irish
Church—that instrument of political and religious wrong,
that banner of Protestant ascendancy and English conquest
—bad received its inevitable doom. The entire disen-
dowment of religious creeds, the entire separation of
Church and State, could not be very long delayed. lie
was by no means sure from the speed at which they were
going that they would live to see another conference.
(Laughter.) He was one of those who hoped great things
from the new Parliament on all questions, but especially
upon ecclesiastical questions. There were many who
seemed to doubt what the new Parliament would do on
account of succeeding apathy and reaction. He could
just remember the great Reform Bill of 1831 ; but there
was no parallel between the two cases. That bill did
away with nomination and admitted the middle classes ;
but they had well-nigh enfranchised a nation. A house-
hold suffrage Parliament was a different thing from the ad-
mission of a particular class. Coming events cast their
shadows before them, and the mere shadow of the new
Parliament had converted a " broken rabble" into a com-
pact phalanx of sixty-five majority last week, andhow many
this week it would be difficult to say. The further en-
dowment of the English Church was not matter of great
interest to debate, whether the principle established in the
disestablishment of the Irish Church, the Legislature had
condemned the English Church, or whether the Irish
Church was to be regarded as a dead weight to the sounder
establishment of England, the severance of which would
give further life to the latter. He inclined to the former
opinion. They could not conceal from themselves that they
had no longer difficulties to contend with in a compact
English Church. The great danger of the English Church
was from within, not from without. Anyone who watched
the course of events must recognise that the danger of
the Church Establishment now was from within, from all
the best and truest minds in the Church, who were declar-
ing that they would not be bound with the bonds of an
Erastian Church, and from the difficulties daily arising in
that Church. (Hear, hear.) He believed the Church
would presently see that the only solution for all its
difficulties was the entire separation of the State from all
creeds. (Cheers.)
The Soir6e was held in the evening, at the Hanover-
square Rooms, Mr. T. H. Tillett, of Norwich, presiding.
Dlr. EDWARD MIALL was received with loud cheers. He
said that he felt his mind too pressed with the magnitude
of the events of the last few weeks to give adequate ex-
pression to his feeling. It would suit him now to go into
solitude ; and instead of receiving compliments and hear-
ing his name mentioned with gratifying allusions and epi-
thets, as he had done during the last two or three days,
he would rather be in some district apart from men, to
commune with his own sense of responsibility and
with the greatness of the work which was still before
then. He did not believe they had entered upon a
Period of triumph. He believed, however, that they
had entered upon the engagement, which, severe as he .
had not the least doubt it might be, and the
times disastrous both to themselves as well as their
antagonists, would yet end in victory for the truth.
(Cheers.) Allusion had been made to another meeting—
a meeting which he supposed had by that time come to a
close—(laughter)—a meeting that ousted them from the
room in which they had lately held their assemblies. He
would not cast any contempt upon those who had assem-
bled together to defend what they regarded as sacred
truth. Whatever might be their character, he admired
and honoured those who would stand by their convictions
when those convictions were threatened by perilous
opposition. (Hear, hear.) He did not believe that any-
thing was gained by blackening the character of oppo-
nents. But there was one thing connected with the meet-
ing that struck him as not merely curious, but anomalous.
Here were a number of men consecrated to the ministry,
holding high offices in the Church, exercising vast influence
over the minds of the people, and meeting together for
the defence of what they called the Church of Christ,
who nevertheless in reference to Ireland had never put
to themselves, and did not put to the public, the inquiry
whether that institution was or was not in conformity
with justice. (Hear, hear.) According to the brief
report in the paper lie held in his hand, they had never
said to themselves, "If we can find, according to the
canons of the morality of the New Testament, that the
Church in Ireland is not in accordance with the law, ' Do
unto others as ye would they should do unto you,' then,
whatever be our ecclesiastical organisations, or what-
ever be our vested interests, or whatever may be our
preference for religious institutions of this or the other
kind in connection with the State, perish everything
rather than that we should do wrong." Now, this was the
tone which ought to be expected from bishops and arch-
bishops, and that was the tone to which he was
surprised there was no response. That they should
never have taken into their consideration the question,
" Is that which is proposed in Parliament in accor-
dance with right, with justice, with generosity, with the
virtues that are inspired by Christian character and
Christian doctrine, or is it not?" seemed to him to augur
what the end of the thing would be. (Hear, hear.) God
did not favour causes because those who professed His
name in the world took unjust courses.with a view to pre-
serve them. Mr. Miall concluded by moving the following
resolution :—" That this meeting rejoices that in response
to the strongly-expressed wishes of the British people, the
House of Commons has, by triumphant and repeated
majorities, resolved that it is necessary that the Esta-
blished Church of Ireland should cease to exist as an
establishment. That it desires to express warm admiration
of the course pursued by Mr. Gladstone in seeking to
bring about so important a result, and an earnest hope
that the policy which he has initiated will be strenuously
supported by the friends of religious equality—not only
at the present time, but when the question is remitted to
the constituencies at the approaching general election."

Mr. MASON JONES seconded the resolution, which was
supported by Mr. H. ALLON, and agreed to unanimously.
The proceedings terminated with a vote of thanks to
the chairman.

THE .REFORM LEAGUE AND THE IRISH

A meeting of the Reform League has been held at the
offices of the association, under the presidency of Mr.
Edmond Bcales. The following passages relative to the
Irish Church occurred in the annual report of the executive, •
which was submitted to the meeting : —" We congratulate
our members and Reformers generally on the successful
issue of the debates on the subject of Ireland, and the
carrying by such large majorities of the resolutions of Mr.
Gladstone for disestablishing the Irish Church. We feel
we are entitled to attribute this result in a great measure
to our agitation of the past three years and the carrying of
the Reform Bill of last session. On this point we cannot
abstain from adverting to the declaration of Mr. Disraeli
that it is the profound conviction of himself and his col-
leagues that the opinion of the nation does not agree on
this subject with the vote of the House of Commons.
We feel it unnecessary to comment on the astounding
nature of this declaration in the face of all the expres-
sions of public opinion which have been elicited by the
efforts of brother Reformers, but we think it our duty
to accept that evident challenge, and shew unmistakably
that the great mass of the people cordially agree with that
vote, and are earnestly desirous of seeing complete raj-
giolslfyretaedkoemtahne ndeelueasslaitryy establishedmeastires f
i,n,rlrtehliasnpdumse.
Ireland. We s
The President read a letter from the secretary of the
London Working Men's Association, inviting the execu-
tiveoltl
shortly
of the Reform League to consult with the council of
ly
dtheemfoonrms t
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tbi
0o:11 yr
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rtdl
ne
gadovieisparbei
n
ich was present to represent the
iet:t of
politicalh oldincgrisa is. Been-aforei r
Men's Association on the
subject,
vh
ieeawr isnogftltihee deputation
London
w,wl,oirk.
ing
had been reso
he (tlliveeedhbayirtniii.aeinr)ol‘%:itilledNerecnultiilli.el ttlowiLioeladg,ua
me that it
had been resolved by their ou n executive to hold a meeting
workingnowl3
el
te itionteixl
owteveilico
at iSiet.uJ,asmandeds'rseHssainllg,
to decide
exclusively
lcisiiive'll)y,'ll:ift course should be adopted. He wished to
add, that he desired there should be complete unanimity
among all true Reformers regarding the subject which was
now absorbing public attention. The leader of the depu-
tation present then briefly addressed the meeting, and
said that the announcement of the intentions of the League
was a sufficient reply to those whom he represented. The
further consideration of the subject was then adjourned.
The election of the new executive was then proceeded
with, after which the proceedings terminated.