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Bence, for the purpose of showing what was the real character
of the meeting.
Mr. Justice Perrin said that the acts and declarations of
the assembly:. in question were clearly evidence to show what
were its objects and its nature. As he understood the evidence
it was this—an arch had been put up in a public passage; the
place for holding the meeting being not at all remote ftom it as
Donnybrook was from Clontarf. And if that arch were al-
allowed to remain there, surely that was evidence to show that
that was the act of those who were engaged in holding that as-
sembly. The case was not exactly the same as those cases
which had been cited by the Attorney-General ; but the prin-
ciple was the nine, and applied equally to them all.
The examination of the whiess was then resumed. He
said—On one side of the banner were the words, " The slave
master may brandish his whip, but we are determined to be
free." On the other side were the words—" Beware ! physical
force is a dangerous experiment to try on the Irish people;
flepeale;sliall not be put down by the bayonet." The Roman
Catholic- chapel of Tullamore is nearly opposite the corn
market where the meeting was held. There was no motto
placed on the chapel door. There was a motto placed almost
opposite to it. It was to this effect—" Ireland her Parliament,
or the world in a blaze." That was on a Sunday. The greater
number of the people at the meeting had passed under the arch.
There was a motto on a wall nearly opposite the platform
to the following effect :—" Ireland was net, ought not to be,
will not be, a serf nation." There were nine or ten other
mottoes placed near the platform. Among them was the
following :—" He aho commits a crime strengthens the
enemy -God save the Queen." " See the Conquering Hero
comes. " Repeal," and under that word, the words
" Justice and prosperity to all creeds and classes." The
crowds continued coming into the town from about ten to
about one o'clock. I counted nine temperance bands which
came into Tullamore that day. Some of the people came in
on horseback. The horsemen advanced four a-breast. They
appeared to advance in order. There were, about three
hundred horsemen. The crowds on foot could not keep
the same order, and the temperance bands themselves
were borne onwards by the crowd. One of the horsemen
wanted to stop, when another said to him, " d—n you, why
don't you keep the ranks?" There were persons giving di-
rections to the crowd generally as to the order of marching—
ordering them as they were getting them into line.
The Attorney-General-1 see, marshalling them.
The counsel for the traversers complained of the remark.
Examination resumed—Mr. O'Connell had, I believe,
arrived the night before. I believe it was during the night
that the arch was erected. Mr. O'Connell and the other gen-
tlemen ascended the platform at a quarter after two o'clock.
The meeting was over about four. (The witness identified Mr.
O'Connell and Mr. Steele as being present on the occasion.)
I was about twelve yards from the platform. I took a few
notes of what Mr. O'Connell said. I will read from that
note a few passages :—" He was certain of repeal ;" he called
Lord Beaumont "a desperate fellow ;" he alluded to Sir Robert.
Peel having declared that he would prefer civil war to the
granting of Repeal ; and Mr. O'Connell then said that " he
hurled at him a high and haughty defiance." He afterwards
asked the people if they would be ready to meet him there
again ; but thinks he went on to say that he would not want
them, or something to that effect. I estimate the number of
persons from 60,000 to 70,000, exclusive of the inhabitants of
the town. The members of the bands had fancy dresses—some
white, some green and white.

Cross-exa-mined by Mr. Henn—l have a knowledge of
short-hand. I was apprised of the intention to hold the
meeting in question. I attended it as it was my duty to
do ; and I reported it to my superior officers as it was also my
duty to do. I was almost twelve or fourteen yards from
Mr. O'Connell when he spoke. Heard him speak about
Ribbonism ; but just at that particular time I lost the
thread of the discourse.—(Laughter.) It was according as
Mr. O'Connell spoke high or low that I was able to hear or other-
wise. There were a great number of men, women, and children
at the meeting, which passed off most peaceably. There was
no riot or disturbance at the meeting, nor was there a ten-
dency to disturbance—nor was there any necessity for the
attendance of the police. I thought that the order
observed, in respect to the meeting, tended to prevent
accidents. Never before saw so large a meeting. Had
seen fairs, and markets, and funerals, but nothing like
such a concourse of people as attended the meeting. Went to
the place of meeting the night before
.it took place. I am not
positive that I saw the arch of which I spoke on Saturday
night. The motto of which I spoke—namely, " Repeal
or a blaze," I did not see the night before the meeting.
It was there on the Sunday morning. I will not swear that
it was taken down before the meeting took place. Will not
swear that it was not taken down by Mr. Steele. I was at
the meeting. I was in the stores over the platform. I took
down the several mottes that were posted about the place of
meeting and on the platform. I saw the motto, " Repeal, or
Ireland in a blaze," at 12 o'clock on the day of the meeting.
I took down the motto, " Patience and Perseverance."
Mr. Henn—Was not " Obedience to the Laws" on the
same banner?

The Attorney-General--I object to this. If these words
were there, let Mr. Henn prove it in a proper manner.
. ?dr. Henn—Sure I have a right to know if he saw the words
to which I have referred.

Can you, witness, see as well as hear? I hope there is no
objection to that.

-Witness—l can—there were a great number of women at the
meeting. I did not see any ladies coming from church at the
time. I saw a banner with " God save the. Queen" on it. I
don't know that I saw a banner with " The Queen, God bless
her" on it. I don't know that I took all the mottoes dawn, but
I took all that were publicly exposed, all that were across the
streets and on the platform. I will not swear that 1 took down
all the mottoes, but I did take down the principal ones. I don't
recollect seeing a banner with " The Rose, Thistle, and Sham-
rock," and " 'the Queen. God bless her," on it. Received di-
rections on the Saturday to attend the meeting. I did so. and
on the Monday I forwarded my report.
Mr. Neal Brown, a Magistrate of Tullamore, was next
called acid examined by Mr. Napier—l remember the Repeal
meeting held in Tullamore in July last. About one o'clock
on the Sunday that the meeting was held I was in my house,
and saw the people coming into the town from the west-
ward. I did not go to church that day, in order that
I might be in readiness if required. There were bands
of music with the processions, and they played as the
-procession passed round the church to the place of meeting.
This was about half-past two o'clock in the day. I saw Mr.
O'Connell and Mr. Steele there. The procession passed along
fifteen abreast. I saw the people coming from church. They
came through my field. That was not the usual way. The
usual way was to go down the street that the procession came
up. There were three bands. They had uniforms. Some
of them had, in addition, scales on their shoulders. They came
down in columns about five abreast, and preserved good order
except in one or two places.
Cross. examined by Mr. Moore, Q.C.—Have been a stipen-
diary magistrate at Tullamore since 26th September, 1839.
lhe bands I have mentioned were all temperance bands. I had
never heard of such bands until about two years since.
Had you heard of them long antecedent to the, meeting ?
Yes, but not antecedent to meetings of a similar description.
They played tunes, but Ido not know what they were. I was
the officer who, through the inspector, directed Stewart,
the last witness, to attend the meeting. I had received direc-
tions to do so from sny'superior officer, on my report that such
a meeting was likely to take place. There was no riot occur.
red at the meeting, nor any in the town until eleven o'clock at
night. Roscrea is about thirty miles from Tullamore.
James Johnson, sworn and examined by Mr. Sergeant War-
ren—l am a head constable in the Sligo constabulary. I was
present at the meeting in Longford, on the 29th of May. It
was a Repeal meeting. I made an estimate of the numbers
present, and should say they amounted to 40,000 or 50,000.
Several were on horseback, and, drawn up in regular array.
They were accompanied by bands in many instances, and some
of those bands had uniform caps and frocks. I saw several
.mottoes exhibited on large pieces of calico. •
Mr. Sergeant Warren—Tell the jury what those mottoes
were. -

Witness—There was " Cead mille failthe"—" Ireland for the
Irish and the Irish for Ireland"—" He who commits a crime
gives strength to the enemy"—" Breathes there a man"—
. Welcome Erin's bright star"--" Repeal and no separation"
—" A population of nine millions is too great to be dragged
at the tail of another nation," &c., &c.) At that meeting
Messrs. O'Connell and Sheil—(Great laughter)--no, Steele
—were present. The chairman—known as Count Nugent—
said that the Irish would get all they wanted if
they attended to their priests. He talked a landlords and
property, and said that Ireland was able to supply all her own
wants. He called upon all true-hearted. Irishmen to rally
round the standard ot Repeal. A priest (Mr. O'Beirne) said
that this was not a time to give a silent vote, and that every
Irishman should rally round the Repeal standard—that Ireland
would again be raised to the dignity of a nation, and would
cease to be legislated for by those who were ignorant of her
condition and hostile to her prosperity. He then asked " Have
we a voice in the Legislature?" and a voice in the crowd an-
swered,
,"No, no." At the termination of the proceedings
three cheers were given for the Repeal, and three hearty cheers
for the Repeal of the Union.—(Laughter.)
Who was the next speaker ?—I did not know his name, but
he said that personal sacrifices should be made, and that no
man deserved to be esteemed who now deserted the cause of re-
peal. The next who followed spoke ot the coercion of Ireland
some twenty years ago, and as to the next speaker he could not
take anything he said. The next speaker he knew was Mr.
O'Connell.

Tell the jury what Mr. O'Connell said.—He spoke against
Ribbon societies, against illegal oaths, and said that the Re-
pealers were peaceable, but that they ',sere attacked (by the
Government),.but they stood on their defence—that Peel and
Wellington might, pass their Acts of Parliament, but they
would find than he (Mr. O'Connell) would drive a coach and
six through tiara.
When Mr. O'Connell spoke of Ribbonism, did he in the
same tone of voice ? Ile did, but there was a pause which
struck him as peculiar, which might be understood by himself,
or by those he addressed. He also spoke of the linen trade ;
and that he would, in the Irish Parliament, punish these in an
exemplary manner who were now opposed to him ; that it was
as preposterous for the temporalities of Ireland to be allocated
to the Church—the Church of the minority—as for one man
to ask another to pay for his education ; that repeal would give
fixity of tenure, by which landlords would be obliged to give
leases of twenty-one years—here there were several shouts of
hurry, hurry—to give the landlord his rights, but that they
should perform their duty.
Is that the entire of what Mr. O'Connell said?—He also
said the Union had carried away 9,000,000/. of money which
ought to have been spent in Ireland. That they would not
continue under the dominion of the Saxon which ground
them to dust, and then there was a pause after he said, " we
were never cinquered=that Ireland must be Ireland—we will
be liberated—we will fight for Repeal rnd liberty--when I
want you again, I will let you know the day."
Did you hear Mr. Steele speak ?—Yes, but took no note of
his speech.
Cross-examined by Mr. Fi:zgibbon—Did you know the gen-
tleman you designated by the name of Priest O'Donnell?—
No. He never saw him before that day. He was a stranger
to him. He was about fifteen yards rather in the rear of the
platform. The speakers' backs were to him, so that he felt it
difficult to hear what they said. Wrote the papers on which
his notes were on a window-sill. He did not reside in that
place. He was sent there on duty, and he was on duty when
writing those paperi. He was sent there to observe the meet-
ing, and take notes.

I.lr. O'Connell, you say, made a pause ? A significant
pause ?—Yes, a very significant pause.
What did it signify ?—lt might be known to himself and
those he addressed.

Was the language known to the 40,000?-1 do not think his
voice could be heard by the 40,000.
Were you behind him whet' made that mighty lause ?
I was.

Turn your back to the jury, and show what kind of pause
Mr. O'Connell made?-1 do not know the jury.
The jury being pointed out, he turned his back on them
amidst great laughter.
Will you express that pawe ? I cannot express it.
Did you see Mr. O'Connell's face when he made the pause?
—Mr. O'Connell•uttered—" I am talking of the pause."
Did you see his face then ?-1 cannot now recollect.
You cannot then recollect whether you saw his back or his
face?—lt must be the one or the other.

How long- was that pause—that significant pause?—lt might •
be about three or four or five seconds, but not certain.

Di.l he make only one pause ?—He did.
several ?—Yes, but not such a pause as the one noticed.
• The pause of three or four seconds was the longest he made ?
—Yes.

What did he say during the pause ?—(Great laughter).
What did he say before the pause? What were the subjects

he was then on ?—They were too rapid—my memory 'cannot
now suggest them. _ _

Here—witness looked over his notes—a long, old, torn
paper—and said, "He (Mr. O'Connell) spoke of Saxon op-
pression—of being ground to the dust—rover "being con-
quered"—then he made the pause.—(Laughter.) " They
were never eonquered"—again a pause. I arrived
(continued witness) in Longford on the 27th, and the Meeting
was held on Sunday. There were no riots there. I was not
sorry for that. The people came into the meeting in
a most disorderly manner, leaping, and shouting, and
brandishing their sticks , but, of course, they were not
going to quarrel with one another. I did not hear the testimony
ot the last witness. This conduct was exhibited by large
bodies of men as they came to the place of meeting, from ten
o'clock until two o'clock in the afternoon, when Mr. O'Con-
nell arrived. Indeed, the people were in a sweating
rage of excitenint.—(Laughter.) They were led on 11 per-
sons whom I believe to be priests. I saw no sticks in the
priests' hands that I can recollect. I saw some of the parties
pulling ethers off the platform, and I might have seen a mo-
mentary anger arise, but will not swear that it did. I was in
the house of Needham the chandler at the time. There were
no policemen there; indeed, they dare not appear. I was not
afraid because by the directions of my superior I was in co-
loured clothes. The meeting was perfectly obedient to 11r.
O'Connell's orders.

Was it loud shouting that you heard ? It was.
Then every person must have heard it as well as you?-1
suppose so. I might have heard the shouting further off from
the spot where I stood.

Arid you moat have seen the winding of sticks?—l
It was a very remarkable thing, was it not?—Yes.
And you saw no police there except between the hours of
eight and ten in the morning. I saw police there in the early
part of the morning. I would say about eight to ten o'clock.
Did you see policemen in the streets till eleven o'clock ? I
might have seen an odd one.—( A laugh.)
Was he armed ?—He may have had arms.
Mr. Warren—Did you ever hear of a cat's-paw ?—Yes, and
I have heard of persons being made cat's-paw s.—( Laughter.)
Mr. Fitzgibbon—That arises from the course of my exami-
nation. I heard of an exclamation the other day as coming
from one of her Majesty's Counsel, and I now add that that was
said by one of her Majesty's sergeants,, as arising out of my
cross-examination.

The Court then adjourned until ten o'clock to-morrow.

REPEAL ASSOCIATION.

The usual weekly meeting of the Association took place on
Monday at the Conciliation-hall.
here seemed to be an increased degree of interest about
the proceedings of the day, as, for a long period before the hour
appointed, the building presented a crowded appearance.
At two o'clock Mr. Maurice O'Connell entered, accom.
panied by William Smith O'Brien, M. P., Caleb Powell, M.P.,
and several other gentlemen.
On the motion of Mr. Maurice O'Connell,
William Smith O'Brien, .M. P., was called to the chair,
amidst the most rapturous applause.
The Chairman—Gentlemen, I feel overpowered by the con-
gratulation with which you have received me ; but I must not
be misled. I fed that this congratulation is not so much the
reward of past services, but an incitement to renewed exertions.
Gentlemen, at any time I would have felt it an honour to be
called to preside over a meeting of an Association which pm-
seises the confidence of many millions, but doubly so under the
circumstances of the present moment. I feel that we are at
a crisis of the nation's fate, and posterity shall tender its grati-
tude to those men who shall safely conduct the people in the
hour of their danger.—(Cheers.) I entered the room wit,th
exultation and with hope, for 1 am not deterred by tue
menaces of the Attorney- General. —( Loud and long-continued
cheering.) It is true that your leaders are taken from you at
.the present moment.—(hear, hear.) It is true that mea"s
have been taken to procure a verdict, of what kind I will not
say, but which will deprive it of all moral worth.--(Heal9, 1
But I cannot believe that any jury, however composed, will
surrender the rights and liberties of our country.--( Hear)•
But I still feel exultation and hope, when I know that the
people are determined to maintain the privileges which are our
birthright. I came here to tell the Attorney-General that,
though not ambitious of martyrdom, if he wants another
victim I present myself to him.--(Tremendous cheering). Are
there not many that are ready to go to prison for the cause
their country?--( Cheers, and cries of "Yes, yes," and " Ever/
one of us.") Well, then, we tell the Government thatieveti
man is ready to go to prison in defence of his constitistioTH
rights—( Hear, hear, and cheers)—and let us ask them • v 1:
they, or any Government, venture to build prisons large
enough to hold them all ?—(Cheers and laughter.) 13114
Gentlemen, I told you I entered the Association, watt
feelings of exultation and with hope ; and I did so beeati!"
I see a spirit of nationality rising through the country ra
consequence of the exertions of this Association. I see Ws,
national feeling evinced in the rising movement in favour 11
Federalism—l see it evinced in the meeting which tr,
place in Charlemont House.—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) -
time is coming when the Caulfields, the Gerdlditres and the
De Burghswill take their proper station at the head of' the Irish
people. I know not whether those speeches were justly red'
ported; but I find that Lord Miltown, and my friend, Lo
Stuart, have asserted that if the rights of the country be "
conceded, they will join the great confederation of the poi' e i
—( Hear, and cheers.) I cannot forget that Lord Stuart was' °
ashamed"to enrol himself with me in the Catholic Association'l
The'conduct of the Government has created doubt in his: loin t
whether he ought not again to enrol himself; and why should it°,
be so ?--why are we forbidden the name and rights of a nation:
The Englishman is proud of his country. The Scotching' 15
proud of his country. The Frenchman thinks there
country in the world like his own • and the Circassian has ex:
countered the colossal power of Russia in defence of his ire::
dom ; and shall Ireland be the only country in which nationality
is forbidden ?—( Cheers.) But a spirit of patriotism
exist, I believe, both within and out of .the holy politie:
( Hear, hear.) And I would remind you, my friends, that the
cannot be called a national movement which does not include tn.:
Protestants ; for, we cannot shut our eyes to the fa'!
that as yet (though many Protestants of high family har!.
joined us) there is a coldness among that class towards 01:
movement. We must conciliate the Protestants—we must rei,
move their prejudices, and convince them that we do not see`
an ascendancy, and that you are determined to protect the
rights of conscience.—(Cheers.) I came here, then, to offer
to you my services—( Hear, hear)—abilities I have not ; but r
have some experience in public affairs, a patient and persever'
ing industry, and a resolute Irish heart.—( Cheers.)
The Chairman then read the following letter from Mr. .10"
O'Connell ;
" Four Courts, Dublin, Jan. 22, 1/444'0,1
"My Dear Sir,—As 1 find' am not to be allowed, to late
my duty in the Association this day, may I beg of yd" weesing
for me that the committee for collecting evidence resPdav !e-
-land tenure is steadily pursuing its inquiries, and is every e the
ceiving a very large number of letters from all parts c'ession
country, detailing sad stories of sufferings from the OPPr and
of bad landlords. We punctually abstract these documentsiters
- forward immediately afterwards to Lord Devon all such tethers
as contain a special request to that effect—r eserving the isit
to be made use of when his Lordship's commission shall v
the localities to which they refer.
" Permit me to express my humble, but most anxious heltie'e
that every friend to the people, and to the peace 0,1 „,
country, will endeavour to do away with the dangerous rai_susf",,
prehension the peasantry in various places labour under, iri,'.esr.o
posing that Lord Devon's commission is empoisered to re"
op
their distresses, or to do anything further than report ul)
them to the Goverment. this
‘• Simply this commission was intended as a delusion by
miserable Government ; and were even a good report 'teer
furnished them by Lord Devon's commission, it would rie'
be acted upon by them.

. In great haste, faithfully yours,
. JOHN O'CONNELL' s
Mr. Stritch, Mr. Reilly, and Mr. M'Nevin handed
shilling each, which they had received from the Attorow
General.—( Much laughter followed this subscription.) ' so
Mr. Maurice O'Connell handed in 301. from Thoth
Lyons, late Mayor of Cork. ge
Caleb Powell, Esq., M.P., addressed the meeting•
had to apologise for net having availed himself of the lion,
lege which had been conferred on him by the Associat
He did not consider himself bound to enter into the Icerl
r.
of of the Repeal question, as the Attorney-General had fully to
gued in favour of the measure, and agitated it sufficiently in
Court of Queen's Bench.—( Hear, and laughter ) three
Alr. O'Connell entered the Hall about a quarter to
o'clock, and was received in the most enthusiastic noro.
He said that, as he was under the imperative necessity 0 vied
turning to the place he came from, he begged to be ah° 0.
to say a few words ; but, before he did so, he could not Po•
vent himself from congratulating the Association on the
sence of Mr. Smith O'Brien in the chair. You, Sir (add' f the
ing the Chairman), are in your natural place at the head 40
people of Ireland—you are in the place of your ancestor, ." oed
the brave.—( Hear, hear, and loud cheers,) The Learesce
Gentleman congratulated the Association on the perfect P xo
and order which subsisted throughout the country
strongly recommended that Catholic societies should be 100.
toted in every town and parish of Ireland; and that the tb,
stituency of Ala3o, Ennis, Clare, Tralee, Cork, and Mesons
f
should call on their representatives to absent themselves ato
.
Parliament, except on some very extrordinary occasion, an
tbe
take their stand in the Association to guide and direct gee
people, should some five or six of them be locked up su,ra,
morning. After same further reir.arks Mr. O'Connell
"
drew, and
eating` st
Air. O'Neil, of Bunowen Castle, addressed them ee".."
some length. b sod
Mr. Maurice O'Connell handed in 301. from Omcf4, 'e for,
'2Ol. from Belfast. He warned the meeting that the tan sac
the election of the poor-law guardians was drawing near, be'
that if they did not exert themselves they would lose th
nefit of the Municipal Corporation Act.
.Town Councillor Reynolds next addressed te.illeet'n'isst
He had travelled much through the country within the ter,
- ten days ; and he there stated that the people were clever'
mined, no matter what was the result of these trials! t° `OO
severe in their exertions for Repeal of the Union. Th.,erek.iog
a report that the Government intended to pass a Bill i i
it perial to agitate the question ; but if such an Act was l'-'
he for one would feel it a credit to disobey such a law.
Alr. Doheny, barrister, made a long speech. 1,1°: of
were the people to be angry at these prosecutions—(l:vor,
" No, •ne)— or 'were they to give up ?—(Cries of ‘` 1,00
never.") No, never. Let the people persevere, and they
be triumphant.—( Cheers.) • A Veil.
At five o'clock Mr. John O'Connell entered amid 100-
Several sums of money having beer. handed in, " 396"
• Mr. Maurice O'Connell announced the rent 'to u
19s. 7d. tbe
Mr. Caleb Powell was then called to the chair, an.., tbe
thanks of the meeting having been given to the chairrna"'
meeting separated.

A balloon ascent took place on Sunday at T°ll°l3';
t the
which nearly terminated in the death of Mme. Loans
aeronaut.. After several pilot balloons had been
Mme. Lartet entered the car about three o'elec',',l for
haVing cut the rope, ascended. After floating abo"d then
short time, the balloon went towards St. Pierre, a",d 110$
began to descend most rapidly. Mme. Lartet CO'Fra
manage the apparatus, which, it would appear fr°-goat-
Toulorise papers, was incompletely formed °II Or
golfier's plan, and fell into the Garonne. She w7„„siag
ported for some time by the balloon, and a hoatic.— S'be
put out rescued her just as she was about to sl," e ;000
and tat aid to
was taken to an inn in the neighbourhood,
to a private house, where every attention being Prsioo•
her, she soon recovered from the effects other Garonne
This is the third time that she has fallen into the GO
with he r balloon.—French paper. • - F°Lia
AN EASY MANNER FOR ACQUIRING 'Y 1" be
DINNERIr-
PARTY.—.As some wine was delivering from t wed;
with Wine Company's pony barrow, in St. Anorew.l, Veving a
nesday last, two light fingered gentry, it is pres.um.en;
prepare.t,
party of friends to dine with them, and not beinm.
_won
either with a sufficient stock or variety for their enteretaibarrowoi
took the liberty of extractirg from the basket in "'ad ea°
erne
calcavella bottle of I h 34 port, two bottles of cham
calcavella ; which it is hoped they fully appre-- they
ice
joyea, without any inconvenience to the gallarnat:ffi:i'ac'teerad
Song
intended for.— N or; orfolk Chronicle, 3 per
THAMES TUNNEL.—Last week, 11
visited this structure.
'THE ar
seen women so delicate, that they are afraid to ,e Tr the bast
of the horses running away; afraid to sail for !
snag
fall;
might overset ; afraid to walk, for fear the dew
I never knew one afraid to be Married 1"