The Sun.
London, England, 1850-06-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMM
The SPEAKER took the Chair sho.tly after Twelve"
o'clock.
Several petitions were presented against the Jaws
Bill from various parts of the country.
ORDERS OF THE DAY.
On the motion of Lord JOHN It tThSELL, it vas,,.
tgrecd that on Thursday, the 25th of July, orders of
the day have precedence of notices of motions, without
priority to Government orders.
COUNTY RATES BILL.
Wit- HENRY HALFORD moved the s,cond read-
ing of the County Rates Bill. Tau Bill was net
of a formal or nominal character. Its object wits
to give to the holders and occupiers of lands a sills!e
in the administration of the county funds. T"'
Bill was sanctioned by precedent, several Bills being in
existence in which the owner was rated instead of the
occupier. It was true that the landlords and town"
were embarked in the same boat, but the difference was.
that the landlords were on deck while the tenants well
below the hatchways, and thus, in the event of a stora4
more liable to destruction. Considering, therefore, tbat
the remission proposed in the present Bill would have;
a beneficial effect, he would conclude by moving 051
second reading.
Mr. C. LEWIS opposed the Bill, which be though!'
was not in accordance with the general principle on
which local rates were made, and moved as an ameor
ment that it should be read a second time that day
months.
ob.,
Sir J. PAKINGTON said there were very grave
-r -nd;
jections to the Bill, and suggested to his Hon. m
the propriety of withdrawing it.
Mr. M. GIBSON thought the measure was en 1;
tremely injudicious one, and would, if carried out in th
form proposed, do a greet injustice to the owners of
property. In his opinion, the only way in which Piot.
Lice could be done both to owners and occupiers, 1115„
allow the ratepayers at large to have control by rep
^rk,,'
sentation over the assessing and expenditure of con,
rates.

Mr. R. PALMER wished the Bill to be withdraoll4,
Mr. AGLIONBY wished to ask the Hon. liteniL„,,"
whether, in accordance with the groat number of reou*•_....
mendations he had received from both sides of the 11° To
he would not determine to withdraw the Bill. ta
thought he ought at least to intimate his intention
all possible speed.
Mr. SOTHERON approved of the principle of bio
Bill, and was averse to seeing it withdrawn, because Id
thought the Hon. Baronet who had brought it in rtw--
.
have to begin de novo. He thought the best 00
would be to refer it to a Select Committee.
Mr. PACKE intimated his readiness to adopt -
suggestion.
Captain HARRIS decidedly objected to the prineiti
of the Bill.

Mr. T. EGERTON also wished the Bill to tor:
ferred to a Select Committee, and hoped that 0014
would be adopted. He objected to rates being le '—
upon owners instead of occupiers.
Mr. RICE hoped there would be some more grecS
control given to the ratepayers over the expenditurf•A,
Mr. BUCK thought it better to throw this Bill 1!_,
for another session, and leave it to be revived next 774
Sir J. DUCKVVORTH said it was to be regitto
that the whole question of the county rates had not. v_rj
referred to a Select Committee long ago, as was prop'
by his Hon. Friend the Member for Droitwich.
Mr. HILDYARD opposed the principle of the 1-0
and called upon the House to throw it out at °not. to
could produce no good result, but might give rioljej
many difficulties that would further oppress the DO
interest.

Sir 11. HALFORD said as the House seemed Ittr.
willing to entertain the Bill he would not presllnor
second reading to a division; he nevertheless we'
vinced of the soundness of the principle involved in I"
The Bill was then withdrawn.
LARCENY SUMMARY JURISDICTION liIL
Sir J. PAKINGTON moved the third reading Of tb
Bill.
Sir G. STRICKLAND opposed the Bill. .116` c°4
tended that the Juvenile Offenders' Bill had not op t..c°
bi
in a satisfactory manner, and, therefore, that it of
not to be extended further. The Hon. Baronet (371",hil
from a pamphlet of Mr. Sergeant Adams, to show the Trot
Act had not decreased the number of juvenile offe
and that it was onaof the most .mischievous missal dr
mOdern benevolence. lie (Sir..-George Stricklandi)
precated the principle of corporal punishment ass PP, of
to children,. and cited the case '4 a boy. in the c
SOd
London.. wha . hid been 'twelve' times• imprisoned ;01.
twelve•times-flogged, and who was' now undergoin 0 'ob.
priseninent for • the-thirteenth' time. That, he,
rr,,5001
mitred, . 'wit; convincing"prnbf that-, co
punishments tended' :to harden and bridalisig!oj
_stead- nf • tefOrming "Itivenile 'Offenders: 'Ho' 01
the Bill also, on the ground that it tended to do eA
with trial'bY jury, the fairest part of the Bridal
stitution. - The Hon. Baronet then proceeded t 0 Woe
a writer in the Staffordshire Conservative, refleceitto
the too great powers of officials, and the many ab, be
which it led to. It was with great. O P satisfaction tbe
had heard the Recorder . of London and., or,
Right llonouteble Baronet the Member for'
toot
pon oppose this Bill, and he thought the
their authority ought to have great weight • vviqrl,4l4
House. If more.duties were pressed
.upon the tuiyibe
Magistracy than they were able to perform it wotuti
taking the most direct course to bring that ire' tar"
body into discredit.
Mr. M. MILNES was surprised to find himself st vros
ing the Hon. Baronet in his present motion, but his G 11 051 i
were entirely different, and he did not at all slim vl,OO t
him in his unworthy suspicions of the magistracy
,c)4'oo,
country. He presumed that the object of the 'Lot
Baronet was to prevent these unfortunate childre "tot
assuming, as little as possible, a criminal stain tr; the
then it must be remembered that the system wh' kia J
Honourable Baronet sought to introduce, connec got
it was with prisons and gaols, would have but littlav
in preventing those evils.
• Sir J. PAKINGTON hoped, as•the Bill would' to
e•
to diminish the evils which arose from the contli of
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tion of young persons by old offenders, that the JO,
would disregard the arguments of the two
Members, and allow the Bill to be read a third tin 040, if,
Mr.' S. CRAWFORD opposed the Bill, thinl4
they once departed from trial by jury in the 4 .;000
young, persons under 16, they could urge no :re,
against extending that privilege to adults of all $11,401.10,
Mr. BANKES said there were powers in the vollA
allow juvenile offenders to have the option of 0,000
either by a jury or a magistrate. He should Or'
the Bill.