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London, England, 1850-04-12 00:00:00

APRIL 12, 1850

aed into the retiring pensions allotted to the judges; and
also into the expense of diplomatic establishments
charged on the consolidated fund.
Mr. D'ISRAELI rose to, move as an amendment to
Lord John Russell's motion, " That this House is in
possession cf all the information requisite to revise and
regulate public salaries; that parliamentary committees
of iuquiry under such circumstances, would only lead
to delay ; and that it is the duty of the Govern-
ment cn their own responsibility, forthwith to introduce
the measures that may be necessary for effecting
every reduction in the national establishments con-
sistent with the efficient discharge of the public service."
He said that if he had not thought that this amendment
which he was about to propose was one which if
adopted would be for the honour of that House, and for
the advantage of' the public service, he should not have
presumed to have addressed the House .on the present
occasion. He had listened with great attention to the
speech of the Noble Lord, and he must say he
was surprised at the general tenor of it.
The only impression on his mind was this—why did the
Noble Lord not persevere in that course which he had
prosecuted so successfully ? Why should he hare asked
a Committee of the House of Commons to discharge
duties which, according to his own account, he had pro-
secuted so successfully?—(Hear, hear.) The state-
ment which the Noble Lord had made was rather a
indication of the principle which he (Mr. Disraeli) had
laid before the consideration cf the House than one
which could at all authorize the present motion.—
(Hear.) It was extremely difficult to extract anything
like principle from the Noble Lord's statement, but he
dealt very amply in the precedents which he thought
justified the motion. He referred to the practice of sub •
witting to a Committee of the House estimates for the
public service, and reminded them that it had been
adopted by successive Governments with great public
benefit. There was, hem ever an essential difference
between the precedents to which the Noble Lord
referred and the coarse which he proposed now
to adopt. It was very true that this, as well as
other Governments, referred the estimates for the
public service to a Committee of the House ; but
what were the estimates ? They were the embodied
opinion of the Government on an important part of the
public service—but the Government, under these cir-
cumstances, did not shrink from previously stating their
opinions, yet he could not find that in the motion of the
Noble Lord he had preferred any opinion whatever.—
(Cheers.) He (Mr. Disraeli) was at a loss to
know whether it was the opinion of the
Government that these particular branches of the public
services were susceptible of any reduction or no'. If it
were the opinion of the Government that they were not,
they were now playing with the House of Commons,
and if, after due investigation, proper inquiry,
and rca'etre reflection, they arrived at a result
that they were susceptible of reduction, he
asked the Government to give the House the result
of their enquiry ;Jet the House deal with it as it, in its
wisdom, might deem best. But the precedents
of' the Noble Lord appeared extremely infelicitous,
Now, he would take the instance of 1831, namely, Lord
Althorp's Committee of 1831—that Committee was ap-
pointed to inquire into the salaries and offices held by
Member's of both Houses of Parliament, but was
that a precedent for the motion of the Noble
Lori. Admit, weich he etas not ready to
tio, that it was politic -for a Conimittee of the House of
Commons to inquire into this subject without having the
opinion of the Ministers upon it; hew did the pre=
cedent of 1831 apply to This motion. The duty
.of the • Committee of 1831 'was. to in-
quire into salaries; embraced in the estimates, bet
the Committee would have to inquire into salaries, emo
.
e himnts, and pensions,
,which were received, by; Act
`Of Pailiament ; and, therefore, if the COrnrnltte e
conic to a vote upon the subject of judgreial
and diplomatic salaries, emoluments, and pen-
sions, it must be entirely non-effective
To make:such a vote effective, the Minister must intro-
duce a Bill, and if this Committee was to deal with the
salaries, emoluments, and pensions of judicial
and diplomatic appointments, why did not the Ministers
introduce a Bill now? In that case they would have the
opinion of the Ministers upon the subject, while if there
were any details to be investigated, which he by no
means aernitted, that wonld, then the Noble Lord might
admit that it might be referred to a Committee. In his
amendment, which the Noble Lord seemed to have mis-
understeod, he expressed an opinion that the House
was in possession of all the information necessary
to divide and regulate public salaries; and to prove
this he need only refer to the reports and papers
which had already been laid on the table, and
which the Noble Lord had made such use of.
He thought they had already before them suf-
ficient information to regulate all salaries of
public men, and he considered that the' facts
that had been alluded to by the Noble Lord told against
his motion, and was in favour of his (Mr. D'lsrueli's).
amendment. He was anxious to know how more
infornsa:ion could be got than was at pre-
sent before the House. They eould not sum-
mon the judges before the Committee, or make their
clerks produce their tavern bill. The Government could
easily obtain all the evidence they required by the ap-
pointment of the Committee. Then with respect to the
diplomatic corps, would they attempt to summon their
agent froth Constantinople and other distant parts, while
they could obtain all the information they required from
the Noble Lord the Secretary cf State for
Foreign Affairs. The amedment he was about
to move was irrespective of what Ministers had
done in past times.—(Hear, hear.) He believed
that although the present motion had a most plausible as-
pect it would in its results have a very bad tendency.
to appearance it increased the authority of the House.
Hi.itiern conviction was, if carried, it would considerably
abridge it.—(Hear. hear.)
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

THE COUNTRY MARKETS.
Louc onoitouoir, Arm!". 11.—At to-day's market we had
a small supply of wheat, which was taken off stowly at Is under
the rates of this day week. Barley, beans, and oats, no al-
teration.
BIKMINGIJA3I, APRIL 11.—At Gloucester and Worcester
market on the 6th the wheat trade ruled dull at a reduction of
Is per quarter. Barley rather less pressed for sale, but no
progress could be made, even by submitting to a reduction.
Oats maintained their value, but were only taken in limited
quantities. English beans more inquired for, and the turn
dearer. No demand for peas. This week holders of wheat
have preferred withdrawing their samples to accepting mate-
rially lower prices, and the little which has changed hands was
at a decline of about Is. per quarter. A few sales of barley
have been effected at rather less money. Only retail parcels of
cats have been disposed of. English beans are quite as dear.
Very little demand for Egyptian. No inquiry for peas. At this
day's market there was only a limited supply of wheat from the
farmers, yet the sales made were at Is to 2s per quarter under
the currency of this day se'nnight for all descriptions. Barley
6d to la per quarter lower. Nothing worth notice doing in
oats, but we had some inquiries far black. Beans nominally
unaltered. Peas very unsaleable.
BOSTON, APRIL Io.—Wheat, red 30s to R4s Od, white 35s
to 3 extra 405 ; barley ()Os to 00s ; oats 103 to 15s; beans,
19s to 21s; peas 18s to 23s per quarter.
LYNN, Aram 9.—Wheat 30s to 345, fine 36s to
38s ; barley 18s to 20s, fine 22s to 24s per qr.
UrriNcoAlt, APRIL 10.—Wheat 35s to 375; barley 20s to
2 ; oats 14s to 20s ; beans 21s to 24s per quarter. Butter
to 9d psr lb ; eggs 20 to 24 for Is.
ALFoßn.—Averages for the week ending April B—Wheat
35s 3d ; barley 20s 5d ; oats 14s 4,1 d ; peas 23s 6d per qr.
ROTHERHAM, Aram -.—Beef 5s lid to 5s 93 per stone ;
mutton, clipped 4d to 4id, in wool 5d to sid per lb. Beasts
314, sheep 2,620.

DERBY SMITHFIELD MARKET, APRIL 9.—The supply of
/at
enerabullocks and heifers to-day was large, and the quality
glly was good ; the demand for beef remains about the
same, without any alteration in the price. The number of fat
sheep was not so large, and the sale not so brisk. Fat pigs
were plentiful. The number of fat and store calves is yet on
the increase, and at a late hour in the day there were many
remained unsold. Beef, 410 to sd; mutton, 5d to 6d;
veal, 5d to 6d per lb. ; pork, 7s 6d per score. Rough fat,
3s 6d per stone of 141bs. Hides, lid per lb; calf skins 2d to
3id per lb.
Gnasoow, APRIL 10.—The supplies during the week have
been light, with the exception of sack boar, fair quantities of
which arrived coastwise and from Ireland, as well as 2,385
bags from France. A large cargo of Polish Odessa wheat has
reached Greenock ; quantity not yet reported. About 6,478
quarters of wheat, 1,296 quarters of barley, 1,020 quarters of
beans, and 96 quarters of peas arrived at Grangemouth from
the continent for this market. Business, owing to holydays,
was slightly interrupted during the week, without causing
material change in the value of either grain or flour. At this
day's market there was a good attendance of town and count
try buyers. Wheat and flour were in fair request at a decline
of 6d per boll or sack. Barley, oats, and oatmeal ruled dull.
and the turn cheaner. Beans and peas fur grinding realised
last week's currency, but the demand was in retail. Indian
corn has to be written 6d loWer per 2801 b. Rye without in-
quiry.
EDINBURGH GRAIN MARKET, APRIL 10.—Wheat—The
quantity of wheat brought forward to-day was 502 qrs, being
3u qrs more than last week. Top price Is down, and the average
3d up-2 3 qrs unsold. Barley—The quantity. brought
forward was 465 qrs, being 105 qrs more than last week.
Price on the top the same, and the average 8d down-13'.1 qrs
unsold. Oats—Of this kind of grain we had 574 qrs
brought forward, or 8 qrs less than last week. The top price
Is 10d down, and,the average Sd up-12 qrs unsold. Beans
—The quantity of beans to-day was 203 qrs, or 100 qrs more
than last week. Price on the top is down, and the average
4d down-33 qrs unsold.
Top of Wheat ... 6 tlb. 42s Od
„ Barley 5641 b. 27s Od
„ Oats ... . 20s 8d
„ Beans 66i1b. 28s Od
EDINBURGH CATTLE MARKET, APRIL 10.—The supply
of cattle this morning was 686, being 173 fewer than last week.
The attendance of buyers was numerous, but sales were also
very dull. Top price, 6s 6d ; current top, 6s to 6s 3d; current,
5s 6d to 5s 9d ; middling and inferior, 4s Od to 5s per Dutch
stone. A clearance was not effected. The supply of sheep
this morning was 2,234, being 100 more than last week. Sales
exceedingly dull, and prices, particularly for inferior kinds,
lower. Good blackfaced wethers nearly maintained former
rates, but a great many of all kinds were unsold. Top price
of best mutton, sid per lb ; current, from 5d to Od ; middling
and inferior, aid to 4id.
CORK, APRIL 10.—Flour—First 12s to 13s Od ; extra 14s ;
seconds, lls to 12s; households 9s Od to 108 6d; thirds, 6s to 84
per cwt. Oatmeal 10s Od to 00s; Indian meal is to 7s 3d; wheat-
meal. 9s 6d to 10s per cwt. Indian corn 1304 to 137 s 6d per ton
Bran 4/10s to 4/15s per ton. Hay—Farmers 25s to 38s; average
ON; dealers 4 Os to 45s Od; average 42s per ton. Stsaw—Farmers
16s Od to 22s Od; average 20s; dealers 00s 0,1 to 00s 0.1;
average 00s Od per ton. Bread—Wheaten loaf 6d to bid;
household loaf 5d to bid per 41b. Fresh butter, 83 to
9,1 per lb. Eggs-4s 4d to 4s 5d per hundred. Coals—
Newport 15s; Lydney 17s ; .Landore 15s ; Beat Neath
Culm 14s per' ton. Tallow 40s Od to 00s per cwt.
Whisky, 25 o. p., 5s 9d per imperial gallon. Meat
--Beef 4d to 6d; mutton 5d to 6d; veal 5d to
sid ; pork aid to 31d; bacon 6d to 7d; sausages 5d per
lb. Hops 131 Os per cwt. Bangor slates 312 a 6d to 315 s per
ton. Bark—Barbary 71 5s to815x; Valonia 14/ to 01; French
71 ss; English 01 per ton. Fleece Wool 10s to 12s per stone.
Hemp 321 to 001 per ton. Fish— Scotch herrings 16s to 17s; red
ditto 20s to 22s per barrel ; Newfoundland 9/ Os to 111 pm
ton. Timber—Memel, 85s per ton; deals, first quality, 18s,
second quality, 163 per 100. Hides—Market 14s to 20s;
salted 15s to 21s per cwt; calf skins 2id to lid per lb.
Potatoes, white 8d to 10d; Minions 12d to 13d; Guano—.
Peruvian, 11/ 10s; Ichaboe, 91 per ton ; Tar—Archangel,
19a per banel.