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London, England, 1844-07-20 00:00:00

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11,11:11nerldiZg mercy in the case tr the two persons to
that the
°ln he had alluded. He (Mr. M. Gibson)
because be was glad
*Right lion. Baronet had adopted such-a course,
~m„Vere was convinced the crime was increased by
',
beC lx"nalties., He thought the lion. Gentleman,
core he questioned the rerogative of mercy, ought to
Tor inquired within himself how many of the crimes
-ur whi
tor• eh men were convicted the State was responsible
' In consequence of bad legislation. No step was taken
rem()
ve squalid want and distress, and the result was,
thtlait a strong feeling existed among the labouring classes
tfoattheY were neglected, and that all the legislation of that
s, use was for the benefit of the higher and of the middle
lasses There was a feeling among the lower classes
;, the Legislature did not care for them, and the
'erp of the Church had contributed to spread that
t,(1;?ng• What bad the Rev. Godolphin. Osborne told
thatbake of Richmond.? Why, he stated this to him,
if the Legislature would only give the labourers' half
Zeattention that was given to the landlords condition, they
IT, arrire at the conclusion which he had
.arrived_ at,s
acre was not a single animal used on their farm
thatwas
suffered so much neglect as the labourer.
ac,s it, therefore, to be wondered at, that a feeling of
me had greatly increased? It had been said that
t"'Hee arose in the manufacturing districts from want of
iascieto,ral care. Why, these counties to which he had al-
ai( I were counties of churches and clergymem—
i)b
.ar, hear.) There was plenty of pastoral care there.
tiert,ulore was wanted than that. Mr. Osborne stated
further that neither the law nor the Gospel could pre-
-11-I:hee men were deprived of the bread which they
.°(3,1,,'",t° have, and were treated worse than brutes. He
eh„- i'd.• Gibson) did not think any increase of the
of car or of clergymen, or the keeping up the price
ociw„ecitn, would conciliate the labouring classes with the
.ers of the land, or would ward off those evils which
wool assuredly come some day. When the lim.ited.sur-
eo'e of this island, and its increased population, was
belliri":l"ed, he had to charge gentlemen opposite with
4,,,,,g themselves the means of strengthening the preju-
t 'a'B against them among the labouring classes. One
'bee:" given for incendiarism was the dislike the la-
takirner
iliac' to machinery. He saw that machinery was
the
,g Ina labour out of his hands; and what had been
whLourse adopted -by the landlords on that subject?..
11:11f?,:, event at public meetings on the corn-law question,
1,-,7 hey chose to revile the manufacturer, they en-
fe,,Tl into tirades against the use of machinery in mann-
a,„°"ies• The labourers, hearing them using these
te,j'a'nents, and finding that machinery was used b. y the
theatits of the landlords greatly to their detriment,
eo„Y,lvere led to the conclusion that machinery was
b,1,,,'4'13' bad to them as it was for the la-
tie",rers in manufactories. The landlords had fomented
again feelings for party purposes, to raise a prejudice.d
anst the manufacturers, and now it -had recoiled
the themselves they would come forward to advocate
headehse °f it. With respect to wages, the same attempt
I,e"een made to delude the poor labourers. They had
dega told that the farmers could afford to give them
•r wa
toges if they chose. Now that he (Mr. M. Gibson)
o d a!o be the case. Farmers, generally speaking,
lartild hardly afford to give the wages they did. The
14C°wners stated that the farmers were screwing the
fires down, and that was the cause of the incendiary
of: that had taken place. He believed that the control
the'ages was entirely out of the farmers' power;7•-vhiist
into Tent of the landlord increased the money wP.,ukl go
of tiauhdlords' pockets, derived, as it was, fre.r:i the sweat
been ;1..,r0w of the labourer. The expect-limns that bad
the far eld out by the promise of ptotection had induced
liaveraers to give higher rent tits -.1 they otherwise would
tie ,„„!I°lle, and to join in 5(), 'hazardous an enterprise.
1)tz,•„, happy, however, to see that the farmers were
tl‘„-noig to open their eyes. He had been lately into
)14;iipuntrY, where he had no doubt the Right Hon.
atiC,et would be glad to be at the present moment,
that ay Was ,_
th „sois opinion that the farmers began to think
equivocal Ilight Honourable Baronet's protection was
oup, and he (M. M. Gibson) wished to en-
the'fagf such a feeling. Such he
be'beieved to be
thatemelings of the present time, and had no doubt
Edent'ese feelings would tend to good. The less con'
Nveree,e, the farmers had in protection, the more likely
her. ","e37 to conduct their business la a profitable man-
ta t,i, One agriculturalfilaboureis were deeply interested
efe Prosperity of thi farmers, and the prosperity of
antler
rili the s would be ,best consulted by not depending
that ,'• hose, but on,their own exertions. He trusted
Ilan, $a be met, fairly on, this-sahieet by the Right
emn_ Isaronet opposite." Inciuiriee.bad been. made by
African tees into the ttate of 'the Aborigines, the
beet, ams, and even the squimaux, but no inquiries had
lahoiar_luade into the xondition of the agricultural
stated"; Some gentlemen got up in that House and
atithor.teat there was n 6 distress, while others of high
tad „ItY had stated thit there was deep distress. They
en wilgistrates stating that the working classes looked
Of the.' a sort of satisfaction at the terrible destruction
chair ll' neighbours' stacks and farms. Mr. Bevan, the
Atemtlian of the quarter-sessions, stated that the
to ' e at Middleham Hall did all they could
lacremote the fire, and another person at Hitcham
vit4 hie a similar statement. The motion
IN. wuich he intended to conclude he had put into
Sarong,a but he did n.o:tr,vvish to confine the Right Hon.
ait to the words lie. had there used. If he would
saei• send down some gentlemen to inquire into the
/eituseiet, who were unconnected with the Poor-law Cora-
• oners or who did ilot hold any situation that would
41ve there'
(14 m a biased character—if he would do that, he
tas, • • Gibson) would agree to any proposition that would
Il ° the effect of carrying out the object he had in view.
.1, e would conclude by moving that a humble address to
4.„_er !lajesty, representing to her Majesty that there was
. til'aesen to believe that the incendiarism now prevalent in
Its.
sec9uties of Norfolk
,f 0 from. distress, and Su:::
praying her Majesty to issue a
Essex, and Cambridge,
v'OUltnission to ascertain
distress. It might be said that this
the cause of that
because it was confined to e,,erataitn is was a partial motion,
~.4. a.y that, if,'
to that, he would only s - counties. With respect
ttehrrae ruinraatelddiisttrlvicatss thCitig
the coun after this inquiry was
ht desirable to extend it to all
objection to it • inr' d try, he could have no
lo do so. Ha thought 4e ,he thought it would be most wise
respect to the J.. there had been great neglect with
believed, if thed.eltion of .the working classes, and he
Ivesuilrd ze"l-o;dlYeiPayu.t off this inquiry much longer, they
inn be ' 4RA.RAM said, after the speech that had
vreuid
.°ll delivered by the lion. Gentleman, the House
bur; a i-ee that it was his duty to offer some observations.
%v.' 9,' the time of the delivery of that speech it 0c-
1i.,. ' ad to his mind to ask himself what the object of the
'A.: °curable Gentleman could be in delivering the sen.ti-
-tijettntts Jle had done, and he had come to the conclusion
lirg Illy a deep sense of duty to the public had induced
with co make the speech be had done. He had heard
-40t_.garteat the
what, if the Hon. Member had
inorlsite stated
he should have felt it his duty to have com-
iii ated to the House, that this crime, though so
~;(,saeeful, and having such a tendency to spread, being
• itaml"' ifeentagions nature, was diminishing. Cer-
mis4..., was an extraordinary period to make that ad-
l'elt 4.1' ka,ild, knowing that fact, that he should have
sPeeeh Lutfl duty to have addressed to the House
hial 4, ue had just made. The Hon. Member had told
3/4e
~ to take a chief constable!s view of this matter ;
ryas" 41 bound to say, whether the Hon. Member con-
.di` eq it a chief constable's duty or not, ho thought a
discussion
this .
%ine4„ of kind forced upon the attention of Par-
ear, head a direct tendency to increase the crime.—
liOloni;i at%) There was such a thing as famnin the
.ettssio ering flame, and it was quite possible that ads- 'light 11„, Such as the Hon. Member had introduced that
aixti., would Cast fuel upon the flames which were almost
ew`Plished.—(Hear, hear.) What good, let him ask,
ba,7! arise from the various topics the Hon. Member
; hitr d
174'04 ° red ? Why, what had been the occupation
early, liouse for the last four or five weeks ? Late and
~(14e, usa; 111°ruing and evening, they had been
the .40g, with the most intense desire to promote
lahetiplterests and add to the comforts of the
Provieg classes, the amendment of that law; which
Ntiefle(lll.for their relief; and the Hon. Gentleman ad-
ttioa4t hi their
that while they were so employed, he
the ij° that great advocate of the rights and comforts of
11114(1 btleueric-(Load cheers from the Ministerial benches)—.
ey hadeeking elsewhere that gratification which, if
they 0. consulted merely their own pleasure,
',1,. haTAild have sought with him.—(Hear, hear.)
"bile t-•'• been absent consulting that enryment,
.ton4eY had been devoting much pains an earnest
ItvellE4ov,to.devising some means by which the misfor-
(4 zatwa "elr Poorer fellow-subjects might be alleviated.
,I' ev? bets the meaning of thecomparisontlae Hon. Member.
t'.hieli h„weea the poor of this country and the inquiries
ea ortv been instituted into the. state of the Abori-
a,. 14itlauajl°1111 parts of the world—the Hottentots and
Vellt inqui; °ll Which he foundrxd an analogy for the pre-
laat°ade t y-? What was the meaning of the allusion
deo 0 the coldheartedness and selfishness of the
kr toPrietors?
Si.' ' IllSox
e'r- 4A1,1„ —I quoted the words of a clergyman.
b0tp41,4 -"4S GRAnAM had a great respect for the
'O Y there °I tbis country but among that
8.4 ere •,
the such might be indiscreet individuals there
art eharaet,,ar tkling—he did not say he admired
lip 4ti popularity-hunting parspn as well as 41t ti. A1„...F Member of Parliament.—(Cheers.) The
!talta!l; hut,-,r had quoted from the letter of a clergy-
evleed, wil_a time when asaything like excitement ro-
tv,,
Nosailethlikely to ad•A to the peace or order of theo_
kto -11 that t was the doctrine of the religion. diffuse
en gentlemp
,p,,,,,rt all classes? lasses? .n was the minister to _
But the Hon. Gentleman would
clak%ittele .1:?. tell. him, that there was no need for la
ott 'sea of that lo_juiry into the condition of the labouring
woa,frlne , distt He (Sir J. Graham) had stated
‘4,01(1 no, Occasion that the assizes now in progress
lett . fail to throw a distinct light on the crime to
Cat: . he ,
DI 448 7, had adverted. He had had communi-
ed . from the Judges who were now em-
L 1
satisfying
~trying the criminals in that district. He had
mi ad . Israction in stating that there wits no difficulty
a, unnistering the law throughout. that district. There
kr: great Willingness to disclose the truth ; there was.
eri 4t.
itnParti
„.I:4lnatio... ,
jiYon the. part of juries, and great. dm-
3kla wii,r_il ? their verdicts. The guilty were convicted,
Riueed, , e there was fair cause to doubt the proofs ad-
41tIci h the innocent had bad the benefit of that doubt ;
:h'was no was told, upon the highest authority, that there
rohne:sh,o:unlttPht,:nti whatever of a diseased state of society
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a. that county, and, generally speaking, the
been committed there had been traced
Soul; ' `Bonal e •
r,...„,. Runty, bet had been committed by ver
ther "'lender if• y
s• e ieved he stated the fact—and
kitheiwt tehre gentlemen present who were better acquainted ,
(4?4everai 1,11,11, hiraself—vvhen he said that, at. Chelmsford;
~incenedivanr`ilLen had been committed for trial on charges
,Z,also heard the ages of 8,9, and 12 years. Ho
e.'.,"rilue9, a" 4,-LeroM Huntingdon, that two children, one
a'..81 . ./.;` the other 11, had been convicted of this
"jilt,..posedZw had received a suggestion, to which he was
whiciluyaa4, attention, that he should insert in the
taue crime
.aa, 51e.gone up from this House, in reference to
u bria„,, wpi h the lion. Gentleman had felt it his duty
eloontaiii,shAZ:;their consideration, a clause inflicting the
eokitted h_ ;"elPping in reference to this offence, when
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tithe Juvenile offenders. The House, in. re-
' r offence, 0 which he would not more