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comprehensive, my Lord, as the first included all the
others.
The Crown Clerk—On the fourth count you say D.
O'Connell, J. O'Connell, T. M. Ray, J. Gray, T.
Steele, C. G. Duffy, and R. Barrett are guilty. On
the fith you say D. O'Connell, T. M. Ray, T. Steele,
C. G. Duffy, and the Rev. T. Tierney are guilty.
On the sixth there' is no finding. On the seventh all
but Mr. Tierney guilty. There is no finding en the
eighth or ninth counts. On the tenth you have found
D. O'Connell, J. O'Connell, T. M. Ray, J. Gray, T.
Steele, C. G. Duffy, and R. Barrett are guilty. On
the 11th there is no finding, but only the foreman's
signature.
Mr. Justice CRA.MPTON—This verdict is imperfect,
RS I take it, Gentlemen, and you must have it returned
'to you. You have named certain traversers as guilty
in some counts, not naming the others ; now, you
ought to say " not guilty" to those whose names you
have omitted. With respect to those counts on
which you have made no finding, you should state
whether you are agreed or not, or whether you think
the traversers, or any of them, guilty or not guilty,
stating the names in each case respectively. With
respect to those whom you have not named, you must
state that you find the traversers not guilty, if it be
your intention so to find, or if your meaning in
passing them by is that you are not agreed you must
so state it. Now, in the first count, you should state
on how much of it you find the traversers or any
of them guilty or not guilty, naming each on both
findings.
The Foreman said, that they thought the first count
tic) comprehensive.
Judge CRAMPTON and the ATTORNEY•GENERAL
instructed the jury that the first count entertained all
the charges of the indictment, and that the others
merely took it to pieces.
A Juror—Will it be enough, then, to say " not
guilty," if we do not find the traversers guilty of all ?
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON—Certainly not, but to so
much of it only as you do not find the traversers
guilty of.
At this moment a tremendous burst of cheering
from the mob outside, repeated again and again,
broke in upon the silence of the Court. Some prac-
tical joker had told them that O'Connell was acquit-
ted, but the High Sheriff ordered the police to clear
the hall, if it were repeated.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON continued—lf you are not
agreed as to any of the traversers you must so state
it, and mention their names.
Mr. Floyd, a juror—My Lord, we are all agreed.
There is no difference of opinion among us, and it
is merely as to the wording of the findings that we
are not sure.—(Sensation in the Court.)
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was about addressing the
Court, when
Mr. MOORE, interrupting him, exclaimed—Pray;
let the jury retire, Mr. Attorney, before you speak.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that other counsel
had addressed the Bench while the jury were in Court,
and (the jury having retired) continued to make some
observations on the first count, which he wished to
have laid before the jurors.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON said he had already ex-
plained the nature of that count to them.
Mr. Mooas said that he had, on the part of the
traversers, to object to the directions which he under-
stood his Lordship to have given to the jury, on the
ground that he had directed them to give a finding on
every count, whereas they could not do so on those
whereon they were not agreed.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON—They do not disagree on
any part, Mr. Moore.
Some further discussion ensued upon this point,
when, at a few minutes before 12 o'clock,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, rose and said, that he
thought that the Court should be adjourned till Mon-
day morning, as after 12 o'clock on Saturday night
he apprehended that the verdict could not be received
by the Court. He therefore thought it right to state
that he thought the Court should adjourn.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON, observing that it was not
12 o'clock, directed the jury to be summoned at once,
and asked was it quite certain that the verdict could
not he received after that hour ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL in reply said, that in a
case of such importance, for fear any doubt should
arise, he certainly did think the Court should adjourn.
The Jury entered their box, and the foreman said
that they were not yet quite ready.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON advised them to be in a
hurry, as it was close to twelve o'clock, and they
retired hastily, followed by a peal of derisive laughter.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON—This noise and laughing
is extremely indecent, and I must exercise the au-
thority of the Court if such a breach of order and
decorum be again committed. His Lordship ap-
pealed to both sides to know if some consent could not
be arrived at to receive the verdict, or to let the jury
go home.
Mr. HATCURLt would reserve any point that might
arise upon receiving the verdict after twelve o'clock.
in favour of the traversers, and
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that he could not
agree to permit of the jury separating.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON made another attempt to
bring matters to an issue, and asked the Attorney •
General if he was perfectly sure.that the verdict was
not receivable after twelve o'clock ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL did not know ; he was
not aware of any precedent upon the point, and would
not go the length of saying that the verdict would
not hold ; but he thought it the safer course to
adjourn. •
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON, for his own part, would not
object to receiving it upon his own responsibility,
though he could not say if he had ever taken a vet-
diet after 12 o'clock on Saturday night, but was sure
that he had done so on other occasions. He wanted
everything to he done according to law, but he thought
both sides should consider the great inconvenience
that would result to the 12 gentlemen on the jury
from being confined the whole of that night and the
following
.day until Monday morning. To some of
them it might be fatal. He wanted to know if there
was a necessity for such measures, for they,were
not at all advisable if there was no necessity ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL persisted in his desire
for the adjournment of the Court.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON several times repeated his
request to be informed if the adjournment and conse-
uent confinement of the jury were necessary, but
did not elicit any answer on the point from the At-
torney-General, and, turning to Mr. Moore, asked,
" What do you say ?"
Mr. Mooas—Nothing, my_ Lord (tittering).
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON—You do not much commit

yourself, Sir.
Mr. HENN, Queen's Counsel, after some consulta-
tion with his learned brethren, said that he did not
object to a verdict being receives after 12 o'clock,
nor yet did he consent to it.
• Mr. Justice CRAMPTON complained that he could
get no information from either side.
The ATTORNEY-GRNERAL said he was willing to
give all in his power. but the case was a singular
one, and lest an objection should be raised here-
after, he thought it the safer plan for the Court to
adjourn.
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON said he would not discharge
the jury, as it seemed to be against the opinion of
both the Crown and the travel-sera.
Mr. Mooae—Not ours, my Lord ; we say nothing.
His LORDSHIP repeated his remark, which was re-
pudiated by the traversers, and said that he would
adjourn the Court till eight o'clock on Monday
morning.
Mr. MoottE—What hour, my Lord?
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON—Eight o'clock on Monday,
as it is only fair to release the jurors as 'soon as
possible.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—Perfectly so, my Lord.
'However, after some grumbling, it was arranged
that the Court should stand adjourned till nine
o'clock.
Mr. MON LH tig, Queen's Counsel, on behalf of the
traversers, handed in a written objection, which was
understood to be to the competency of the Court to
adjourn after twelve o'clock on Saturday night.
The jury were then summoned.
Mr. Floyd (a juror) entered and said, " My Lord,
we have been twice summoned when it appears we
were not wanted."
Mr. Justice CRAMPTON —You are wanted now
Sir,

The jury having made their appearance,
His LORDSHIP expressed his regret at the unplea.
sant Communication he had to make to them. lie
had been informed that his jurisdiction to receive
their verdict had ceased after twelve o'clock, and
he wis much distressed to be obliged to. tell
them that they would have to remain in con-
finement until Monday morning. It was a fatality
growing out of the period of the morning at which
they had arrived which it was impossible to ob-
viate. His Lordship stated that every effort
would be made to render their situation as easy and
comfortable as possible, and that they would be
at liberty to attend Divine service, under the '
care of the High Sheriff, on Sunday. After having
expressed his regret again at being obliged to Order
them into confinement, and given them some general
directions, his 'Lordship directed two bailiffs to be
sworn for their safe custody, under whose care they
were conveyed to their room for the night. _
As they left the box the crowd in the gallery broke
into a loud laugh of derision, whereupon
'Mr. Justice CRAMPTON directed the High Sheriff
to have the first person arrested whom he could de-
, „j:7-,tett in the commission of such a gross breach of pro-
VE)2A-‘ ''''' 'sty after the repeated admonitions he
,had given
•,:,r.,-, t ". He 'would instantly commit to Newp t
. •_. ;Mtdm.soever was brought before him, and proved to
_lifn4uiltof such an act. His Lordship then retired;
<, .5: Ai* n his exit from the Court was followed by several
---,'-'-:. fin ds of the mob, who groaned and hissed' hint
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Ainti driven back by the police.
• "` (214 i to two o'clock on Sunday morning- all c0n-
.,11 'ti ued quiet; Large bodies of police, horse and foot,
patrolled the neighbourhood of the Courts, and it was

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understood that all the troops in garrison were ready
to act at a moment's notice..
Mr. O'Connell has not attended the Court sinee
the day on which he made his defence. It is said
that the Hon. Gentleman is far from being well, and
that the illness under which he was labouring visibly
when he made his address to the jury, has been in-
creasing ever since.

THE INDICTMENT.
FIRST COUNT.
The first count charges the traversers with "unlaw
fully, maliciously, and seditiously contriving, intending,
and devising to raise and create discontent and disaffec-
tion amon,, the liege subjects of our said Lady the
Queen, and to excite the said liege subjects to hatred
and contempt of the Government and Constitution of this
realm as by law established, and to excite hatred, jealousies,
and ill-will amongst different classea of the said subjects,
and to create discontent and disaffection amongst divers
of the said subjects, and amongst others her Majesty's
subjects serving in Majesty's army ; and further, con-
triving, intending, and devising to bring into disrepute
and to diminish the confidence of her Majesty's subjects
in the tribunals duly and lawfully constituted for the
administration of justice ; and further, unlawfully,
maliciously, and seditiously contriving, intending,
sad devising by means of intimidation, and the de-
monstration of great physical force, to procure and effect
changes to be made in the Government, laws, and Con-
stitution of this realm, as by law established heretofore
to wit, on the 13th day of February, in the year of our
Lord 1843, with force and arms, to wit, at the parish of
St. Mark, in the county of the city of Dublin, unlaw-
fully, maliciously, and seditiously, did combine, con-
spire, confederate, and agree with each other and with
divers other persons whose names are to the jurors afore-
said unknown, to raise and create discontent and dis-
affection amongst the liege subjects of our said Lady the
Queen, and to excite such subjects to hatred and con-
tempt of the Government and Constitution of this realm
as by law established, and to unlawful and seditious
opposition to the said Government and Constitution, and
also to stir up jealousies, hatred, and between dif-
ferent classes of her Majesty's subjects, and especially to
promote amongst her Majesty's subjects in Ireland feel-
ings of ill-will and hostility towards and against her
Majesty's subjects in other parts of the United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Ireland, and especially in that part
of the said United Kingdom called England; and further,
to excite discontent and disaffection amongst divers of
her Majesty's subjects serving in her said Majesty's
army; and further to cause and procure and aid and assist
in causing and procuring divers subjects'of our said Lady
the Queen unlawfully; maliciously, and seditiously to
meet and assemble together in large numbers, at various
times and at different places within Ireland, for the un-
lawful and seditious purpose of obtaining, by means of
the exhibition and demonstration of great physical force
at such assemblies and meetings, changes and alterations
in the Government, laws, and Constitution of this realm
as by law established ; and further to bring into hatred
and disrepute the Courts by law established in Ireland
for the administration of justice, and to diminish the con-
fidence of her Majesty's liege subjects in the administra-
tion of the law therein, with the intent to induce her
Majesty's subjects to withdraw the adjudication of their
differences with, and claims upon each other, from the
' cognizance of the said Courts of law established, and
to submit the same to the judgment and determination,
of other tribunals, to be constituted and contrived for
that purpose."
Forty-three overt acts are set forth in this the first
count, relating principally to the various monster meet-
ings, the numbers attending them, the speeches deli-
vered at them, and the publication of the same by Messrs.
Barrett, Gray, anti Duffy, proprietors of the Pilot, Free-
man, and Nation newspapers.
The counts that follow this, down to the tenth, vary
but little from the foregoing, which contains the grave-
mena of the whole charge.
On this most important count, the verdict of the jury,
as it at present stands, subject to the amendment they
are to give in this day,finding."
SECOND COUNT.
This count charges the traversers) with " unlawfully.
maliciously, and seditiously contriving, intending, and
devising to raise and create discontent and disaffection
among the liege subjects of our said Lady the Queen,
and to excite the said liege subjects to hatred and con-
tempt of the Government and Constitution of this realm
as by law established, and to excite hatred, jealousies,
and amongst different classes of the said subjects,
and to create discontent and disaffection amongst divers
of the said subjects, and amongst others her Majesty's
subjects serving in her Majesty's army ; and further
contriving, intending, and devising to bring into disre-
pute and to diminish the confidence of her Majesty's
subjects in the tribunals duly and lawfully constituted
for the administration of justice, and further unlawfully,
maliciously, and seditiously contriving, intending, and
devising, by means of intimidation and the demonstra-
tion of great physical force, to procure and effect
changes to be suede in the Government, laws, and Con-
stitution of this realm as by law established heretofore."
On this count there is " no finding."
THIRD COUNT.
This count charges the traversers with unlawfully,
maliciously, and seditiously, contriving, intending, and
devising to raise and create discontent and disaffection
amongst the liege subjects of our said Lady the Queen,
and to excite the said liege subjects to hatred and con-
tempt of the Government and Constitution of this
realm as by law established, and to Q-with hatred
I jealousies, and ill will, amongst different classes of the
said subjects, and to create discontent and disaffec-
tion amongst divers of the said subjects, and, amongst
others, her Majesty's subjects serving in her Majesty's
army; and further contriving, intending, and devising to
bring into disrepute, and to diminish the confidence of
her Majesty's subjects in the tribunals duly and lawfully
constituted for the administration of justice; and further,
unlawfully, maliciously, and seditiously, contriving, in-
tending and devising, by means of intimidation, and the
demonstration of great physical force to procure and
effect changes to be made in the Government, laws, and
Constitution of this realm, as by law established ;" "and
with attempting further to bring into hatred and dis-
repute the Courts by law established in Ireland for the
administration of justice, and to diminish the confidence
of her said Majesty's liege subjects in Ireland in the
administration of the law therein, with the intent
to induce her Majesty's subjects to withdraw the
adjudication of their differences with, and claims upon each
other from the cognizance of the said Courts by law esta-
blished, and to submit the same to the judgment and deter-
mination of other tribunals, to be constituted and contrived
for that purpose in contempt of our said Lady the Queen."
On this count the jury found Daniel O'Connell, R.
Barrett, and Charles Gavan Duffy guilty.
• FOURTH COUNT.
The fourth count only varies the third, and again
charges the traversers with attempting to excite her
Majesty's subjects to hatred and contempt of the Consti-
tution of the realm.
On this count the jury find " that Daniel O'Connell
John O'Connell,Tho3. Mathew Ray, John Gray, Thomas
Steele, and Charles Gavan Daffy are guilty."
FIFTH AND SIXTH COUNTS.
The fifth and sixth counts are also repetitions of the
fourth, and charge the' traversers generally with at-
tempting to create dissatisfaction and hatred of the con-
stitution.
On the fifth count the jury find that Daniel O'Con-
nell, John O'Connell, Thomas Matthew Ray, John
Gray, Thomas Steele, Charles Gavan Duffy, and
Thomas Tierney, are guilty.
On the sixth count the jury says nothing.
SEVENTH COUNT.
This Count, in addition to the general charge of
resting disaffection, charges the traversers with " pro-
curing divers subjects of our said lady the Queen to
meet and assemble together in large numbers, at vari-
ous times and at different places within Ireland, for the
unlawful and seditious purpose of obtaining, by means
of the intimidation to be thereby caused, and by means
of the exhibition and demonstration of the great physical
force at such assemblies! and meetings, changes and
alterations in the government, laws, and constitution of
this realm, as by law established ; and, especially, by
the means aforesaid, to bring about and accomplish a
dissolution of the Legislative union, now subsisting
between Great Britain and Ireland, in contempt of
our said lady the Queen, and the laws of this realm ;
to the evil example of all others in the like case offend-
ing, and against the peace of our said lady the Queen,
her crown, and dignity."
On this count the jury find Daniel O'Connell, John
O'Connell, Thomas Matthew Ray, John Gray, Thomas
Steele, and Charles Gavan Duffy, are guilty.
EIGHTH COUNT.
The traversers, by this count, are charged with " un-
lawfully, maliciously, and seditiously contriving, intend-
ing, and devising to bring into disrepute, and to dimi-
nish the confidence of her Majesty's subjects in the tri-
bunals duly and lawfully constituted in Ireland for the
administration of justice heretofore, to wit, on the thir-
teenth day of February, in the year of our Lord one
thousand eight hundred and forty-three, with force and
arms, to wit, at the parish of Saint Mark, in the county
of the city of Dublin aforesaid, unlawfully, maliciously,
and seditiously did combine, conspire, confederate, and
agree with each other and with divers other persons
whose names are to the jurors aforesaid unknown, to
bring into'hatred and disrepute the tribunals of law es-
tabltshed in Ireland for the administration of justice, and
to diminish the confidence of her said Majesty's iege
subjects in Ireland in the administration of the law
therein, with the intent to induce her Majesty's subjects
to withdraw the adjudication of their differences with
and claims upon each other from the cognisance of the
said tribunals by la.v establieted, and to submit the same
to the judgment and determination of other tribunals to
be constituted and contrived fur that purpose, in con-
tempt of our said lady the Queen and the laws of this
realm to the evil example of all others in the like case
offending and against the-peace of our said lady the
Queen, her crown, and dignity.
On this count there is no finding.
NTH COUNT.
The ninth count is only a variation of the eighth, and
on this, too, there is no finding..
TENTH COUNT.
This count repeats the charge of attempting to super-
sede the established courts of law for the administration
of justice.
On this count the jury find that Daniel O'Connell,
John Connell, Thomas Matthew Ray, Thomas Steele,
ohn Gray, andEcCoLhuEanrtylecEshNaGivf Govan
oDeuutfkraT,yea.re guilty.
y, and seditiously
The eleventh rseeornstrwivitihng': "un-
lawfully,
inaliciousl
tending, and devisini,,,b
by means
foansreceif,
and intimidation, and
the determination of physical
and procuring large numbers of' persons to meet and
assemble together in divers places, and at divers times,
within Ireland, and by means of seditious and inflammatory
speeches and addresses to be made and delivered to the
said persons so to be assembled as last aforesaid, and
also•by means of the publishing and causing and procur-
ing to be published to and amongst the subjects of her

said Majesty, divers unlawful, malicious, and seditious
writings and composition*, and 'further contriving and
intending, by the several means aforesaid, to intimidate
the Lords spirit temporal, and Commons of the
Parliament of the Mited Kingdom of Great Britain and
Ireland, and thereby to effect and bring about changes
in the laws and constitution of this realm as by law esta-
blished."
On this count there is no finding, but merely the sig-
nature of the foreman affixed to it for himself and
fellows. .

The verdict is imperfect, as on some of the counts
there is no conclusion come to as to the guilt or inno-
cence of the traversers, and it is therefore returned to
the jury for amendment ; but the effect of it may be
taken to be the same as a general verdict of Guilty.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 12.
Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock.
On the motion of Lord COTTENIIAM a Bill was
read a first time entitled an Act for the Amendment of
the Law of Imprisonment for Debt.
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS.
The LORD CHANCELLOR laid on the table of the
House a Bill for altering the jurisdiction of Ecclesiastical
Courts.
THANKS TO SIR. CHARLES NAPIER.

The Earl of RIPON, in rising to move that the thanks
of the House be presented to Sir Charles Napier, and
the officers and men under his command, said that he
should take especial care to abstain .from anything
which might by possibility lead to a difference of opi-
nion, or refer in' the remotest degree to any political
question. It had always been the practice, on occasions
of this kind, to pursue that course, which was recom-
mended as well by reason as by practice. He might,
however, be permitted, before he moved that the thanks
of the House be given to Sir Charles Napier, to state to
their Lordships, as briefly as ho could, the grounds upon
which he thought the conduct of that gallant officer,
and the army under his command, was most de-
serving of their Lordships' applause and thanks.
He would take the liberty very shortly of de-
tailing to their Lordships the course of those
operations which had given new lustre to the mili-
tary character of that distinguished officer. It ap-
peared that in the course of the- early part of last year
Sir Charles Napier, who was in command of her Ma-
jesty's and the East India Company's forces in Sinde, was
called upon by the Governor-General to enter into cer-
tain negotiations with the Ameers of Sinde. In the course
. of those proceedings he received information, upon which
information he (the Earl of Ripon) would offer no opi-
nion. Me received information which led him to believe
that the Ameers, with whom he was about to negotiate,
were collecting troops and the means of resistance, from
which he inferred that it would become Impossible for
him to bring the negotiations to a satisfactory issue
without having at hand military forces to support his
proceedings. Under these circumstances, he felt it his
duty to move from his position on the Indus at the
town of Sukkur to the town of Bukkur, in order by
this operation to disperse those forces which his
representations had failed to do. When he ar-
rived there the Ameers and their forces retired,
but he was led to believe, from information he had
received, that their dispersion did not take place, and
that a necessity might arrive for a display of force on
his part. The Ameers returned from Khyrporo,
and took anothdr direction, and Sir Charles Napier, feel-
ing a necessity for securing his line of operation,
moved forward and secured the fort of Sukkur.
The Ameers, feeling their position was not a
secure one, retired from the position they had
taken up, and Sir Charles Napier determined to
move forward, in spite of all the difficulties which pre-
sented themselves ; and though there was a want of
supplies, and there was great apprehension of a defi-
ciency of water, it seemed to him that Sir C. Napier, being
a man of great spirit, was not to be daunted from effect-
ing his march; but being at the same time a person of
great sagacity and prudence, he felt there was some
risk in effecting it, and he felt it necessary to guard against
the consequences which might follow. He, therefore,
placed an advanced force on the road to Hyderabad, the
capital of Sinde, and it was so posted as to enable the
main body to carry on their operations. His mea-
sures completely succeeded. He now felt it neces-
sary to advance further towards Hyderabad, which
was not very easy, particularly as he had reason to
believe that the Ameers had collected a consider-
able force, which might place his army in jeopardy.
He advanced forwards some distance from Hyderabad,
where he remained for some days. In the meantime,
after :certain negotiations which he had reason to sup-
pose would lead to a termination of the affair, an attack
was made on the 15th of February, by a large body of
Beloochees upon the residence of Major 0 utramovhich was
within a short distance of Hyderabad, between that city
and the left bank of the Indus. In the defence of this
place Major Outram behaved with the greatest gallantry;
though he had only a few troops with him, and though
the attack was made by upwards of 800 of the na-
tives, and pushed with great vigour, he maintaind
his position for a considerable time. It unfor-
tunately happened that he had not received some
supplies of ammunition which he had expected, and he
was obliged to support the attack with a small number of
forces. He was not a man to yield. He was well
known to be a brave and resolute soldier; and Sir Charles
Napier spoke of him in the highest terms, and of all who
served under him on that occasion. An attack had been
made on three sides of the building, and though they
were obliged to retire, they didso in good order, with
a trivial loss of only ten or twelve men. When Sir C.
Napier heard that Major Outram was compelled to re-
tire, he felt it necessary for him to take further steps,
and to move forward. He did so, and he found the
enemy posted in a well selected position, which showed
that they were not ignorant of military skill.
Their front was defended by a deep ditch, and their
flanks were covered with jungle, their right flank was
further defended by a ditch. This was a most formid-
able position. Sir Charles Napier attacked 22,000 men
in this strong position with 2,800 in front. He could
not attack them in any, other way. The moment he
saw the position, he perceived, with that quickness which
was characteristic of him, how the attack was to be con-
ducted. He placed his troops en echellon, and advanced
at once and stormed their breastworks. The enemy
made a stout resistance, but after a severe struggle they
were routed with great loss, and their ammunition and
baggage fell into the hands of the conquerors.—(Cheers.)
The troops in this battle had distinguished themselves
by their coolness, courage, and energy.—(Cheers.)
The effect of this battle had not been, however, to dis-
perse the whole of the enemy's force. It was a remark-
able circumstance in Indian warfare that an enemy once
defeated should not at once disperse, but in the present
instance it so happened that one of the Ameers had a
body of troops untouched. He was joined by the re-
fugees of the battle of Meeanee, and he commenced mili-
tary operations. Sir Charles Napier, therefore, found
it necessary to advance from Hyderabad against the
Ameer of Trapore. The Ameer had under his
command 20,000 men, and Sir Charles Napier 5,000.
The Ameer had taken up a strong position. He had
two nullahs, or ditches, in his front, which was also de-
, fended by a rampart and breast-work. Sir C. Napier,
in his dispatches, said that it was difficult to ascertain
the exact position of the enemy's left flank,
and that, therefore, he determined to attack
his right flank. The attack was made by
the cavalry, supported by the 22d Infantry. The
Ameer, finding that he was outflanked on his right,
drew troops from his left to support his right. Sir
Charles Napier judged from this manmuvre that his
right flank was his weakest point, and therefore had
determined that he would make his attack on the right.
The troops advanced steadily, reserving their fire until it
would tell with effect, and the result was the complete
defeat of the enemy.—(Cheers.) He had thus given a
short and imperfect account of the two great aeons
which had been fought by Sir Charles Napier. These
victories had not, however, been won without loss. Our
loss, in killed and wounded, had been 500 men ;
amongst there we had to regret many of the bravest
officers of our Indian army.—(Hear, hear.) He would
not detain the House by describing the gallant acts of
ndividuals—thoseservices had all been described by
Sir Charles Napier, in his dispatches, and were now
part of the military history of this country.—(Cheers.)
He might say one word as to the non-commissioned
officers and soldiers,—though, with respect to this por-
tion of her. Majesty's army it was almost needless
for him to speak. Many of their Lordships knew what
they were as soldiers, with what spirit they fought, and the
discipline which they maintained in action. But there
was another portion of the army—the native troops—
(Hear, hear)—of the East India Company; these troops
must always, on occasions like these, be looked
on in a peculiar light. They were not mer-
cenaries, for they were volunteer soldiers ; they were
not English though they were British subjects. But in
many respects they had the hearts of Englishmen ; they
were as brave as any troops in the world—(Hear)—they
were capable of as admirable discipline—(Hear)—they
were patient of fatigue, and willing to sacrifice their natural
prejudices. They went from their own country to
places beyond the seas, of which they knew
nothing, and they displayed as much spirit and
disciplie in fighting in another climate, as if they
were fighting in their own homes on the con-
tinent of India. These qualities they had manifested
on occasions without number ; and in addition to this
they were remarkable for their unvarying fidelity. But
for that fidelity the. Government would at times have been
placed in difficulties from which it could not easily have ex-
tricated itself. Their Lordships then would agree with
him in tendering their thanks to that army. And let
them not suppose that their thanks would be barren.
These men might not know accurately what spaCe their
Lordships filled in the eyes of Europe and the world—
what their functions were in the Government
of England ; but when ' they looked at their
standards, bearing the names of these victories—when
they felt on their breasts the medals which her Majesty
and the East India Company had ordered to be pre-
sented to them,—they would feel an equal pride and
gratitude, for the honour their Lordships would confer
upon them by agreeing to this motion. His 'Lordship
concluded by moving that the thanks of their Lordships
be presented to Sir Charles Napier, the officers of the
army, and the native troops engaged in the, late military
operations in Sinde, particularly in the battles of
Meeanee and Hyderabad.
The motion having been put from the Woolsack,
Lord AUCKLAND rose. He trusted he should stand
excused before their .Lordships if he rose for the pur-
pose of seconding the motion of the Noble Earl oppo-
site. He could add little to what had fallen from
the Noble Lord, but it was a gratification to himself to
be allowed to say that he cordially, and without quali-
fication, concurred in the vote of thanks to that
no one more alive than
himself eX7sitalsi94oo of the Indian army ; there
was no army that possessed in kt tilth9F damp tjr
best qualities of the soldier. He Shqlc! n9t, flollow
Noble Lord in his details; he should oily say Oat pliqug4
by good direction and 4Qoci diseipruie their arrili

had fretluentlk vanquished forces infinitely supe-
rior to themselves, yet in -no instance, - not
even excepting the battles of Plessy and As-
saye, was the disproportion or the difficulty greater.
He was glad that the motion had been confined ex-
clusively to the military operations, it being so desirable
that in a vote of thanks they should be nnimous. There
was nothing in the vote that could give rise to a differ-
ence of opinion.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said it was not his
that could occasion
n this question ; but
ainntyentidoinfferetnoce saoyf
oapninyitohningo
he• could not listen to such . a motion as this, im-
pressed as he was with the strong importance and merits
of the services which had been performed, without
expressing his cordial assent in the expressions of
approbation which had fallen front his Noble
Friend (Lord Ripon) in submitting his motion
to the notice of their Lordships. He (the Duke of Wel-
lington) must say, that after giving the fullest consi-
deration to these operations, he had never known an in-
stance of a general officer who had shown, in a higher
degree, all the requisite qualifications to enable him to
conduct great operations.—(Hear, hear.) Major-General
Sir Charles Napier had manifested the utmost discretion
and prodence in the formation of his plans, the utmost
activity in perfecting the preparations so necessary to
success, and finally. the utmost zeal, gallantry, and
silence in carrying these plans and prepara-
tions into - execution,—(Hear, hear.) His Noble
priatt in introducing his motion, had spoken of
the celebrated march of General Napier, and he (the
Duke of Wellington) must say, that it was one of the
greatest feats that it had ever been his good fortune to
peruse, and that it was completely successful.—
(Hear, hear.) He had marched with his army
through the desert with all his heavy guns,
transporting all his materiel as well, and this in
the most extraordinary manner, having thus been, by his
activity, zeal, and determination, enabled to deprive his
enemy of the means of retreat.—(Hear, hear.) 'Af-
ter his return from this masterly operation, he
collected all his troops and made all prudential and
necessary preparations for whatever position future
events might place him in, should he be called upon to
engage his enemy. It was proved that he could only
collect but a moderate number of troops. That mat-
tered little, for Major-General Sir Charles Napier
had confidence in his troops, in himself, and
they had confidence in him. He then was called upon
to make a most extraordinrry attack, which most com-
pletely succeeded, gaining a complete victory, having
secured the guns and wateriel of his enemy, and taken
every precaution to keep his own together. Again he
found himself in a position likely to be attacked by a
greatly superior number of forces ; he secured for him-
self and his troops, not only the honour of a glorious
victory by the conquest of Hyderabad, but made his
position on the Indus so good that nothing could sur-
prise him. He then brought up reinforcements from
Sukkur, and by his activity and decision, found himself
at the head of a stronger army than that with which he
had fought the original battle. Now, he (the Duke of
Wellington) must do Major-General Sir Charles Napier
the justice to say, that in his operations, made with a
view to obtain all the reinforcements he could, he had
manifested all the discretion and foresight of an
officer entrusted with the highest description of
operations. When joined by these reinforcements
.he immediately advanced and made his attack, th 9 result
of which was one of the most brilliant victories that
ever was achieved ; and which showed in the general,
in the officers, and in the men, all the highest qualities
that soldiers could possess. (Hear, hear.) Having
achieved this victory, he pursued his enemy to his capi-
tal, Meerpore—on the borders of the desert, of which
he took possession ; and having afterwards pierced into
the desert, with the view of taking possession of another
post, he did so take possession of it, and so deprived his
enemy of the means of making it an asylum at any time
afterwards.—(Hear, hear.) He mentioned this fact,
because-in the course of the operations connected with
it, an instance occurred which manifested in a strong
degree the confidence which Major-General Napier's
officers reposed in him. Having determined on making his
attack on Meerpore, he found a river some way in his rear;
it was most difficult, but necessary to keep up a com-
munication with Hyderabad. He determined to secure
this, and actually sent orders that operations should be
stopped, and directed the troops to fall back on Meer-
pore. An officer who was there, Major-General Napier's
aide-de-camp, rode from Meerpore through the desert,
in the hot season, not less than forty miles, and let him
know the state of the siege. Having received fresh
orders from Major-General Napier, this officer rode back
on-the same day—thus making a distance of full eighty
miles in one day—and the place was taken.—(Hear,
hear.) They captured the place.—(Cheers.) This he
(the Duke of Wellington) mentioned as an in-
stance of the confidence in Major-General Napier,
by those serving under his command ; their desire
to further his views, and, in every way they could, to
co-operate with him for the good of the service. He could
not pronounce anything to their Lordships which could
more strongly prove to their Lordships the confidence
of all officers and soldiers in their General.—(Hear,
hear.) He hoped he had said nothing to disturb the
amity which had hitherto reigned amongst their Lord-
ships upon this vote of thanks, to which never was there
an army more entitled than the General, the officers, and
men—British and native—who had taken part in these
brilliant operations.—(Hear, hear.) It happened to him
to know that the Governor-General had transmitted to
Sir C. Napier his warm appropation of the gallantry of
the troops at Meeanee. He hoped their Lordships would
be entirely unanimous on this occasion.—(Cheers.)
The motion was unanimously agreed to.
STATE OF IRELAND.

The Marquis of NORMANBY rose for the purpose
of laying on the table of the House the resolution of
which he had given notice, and which he intended to
bring under their Lordships' notice to .morrow evening:
"That this House, in answer to her Majesty's most gra-
cious speech, assure her Majesty that the House fully
enters into the feelings of her Majesty on that part of her
Majesty's speech with reference to the subject matter
of which proceedings are now pending in Ireland ; and
this House feels it its duty to take the earliest oppor-
tunity, when no prejudice
can arise therefrom, to record
their intention to examine into the causes of discontent
existing in Ireland, with a view to the removal of evils
and the restoration of tranquillity, and also that all
classes :may enjoy estutl rights and privileges, irrespec.
tive of religious distinctions.

ST SPAIN.OF
oucould
Lord CLARENDON
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said he assure their Lord-
ships that he was not actuated by party motives, in
rising to address them—but recent events which had
taken place there, which were pending, were of a cha-
racter too serious to be passed over. He was sure that
these things had attracted the attention of his Noble
Friend opposite,, and their Lordships and the country
in general were desirous to receive any information
which it would not be inconsistent with the public duty
to communicate.. It should be recollected that Spain
was a country that always must have an important in-
fluence on the affairs of Europe, and its independence
and prosperity was of importance to all. That Bri.
tish statesman would fail in his duty to
the country if be neglected to promote that in-
dependence, and to guard against all attacks
whether open or insidious, or come from what quarter it
night. Events had lately taken place in that country
which imperatively called for their Lordships' most
serious attention. The institutions and the throne of
Spain were in equal danger ; both had been degraded
and set aside, and in their place had been erected a
military despotism of the very worst character, and of
the most atrocioue description, which had been for
months past trampling on the law and outra.ing the
feelings of the people. That could not be allowed to go
on. No nation would long submit to such a state of
things. It might be almost called a chronic state of civil
war. Other Governments thought themselves justified
in interfering ; and, indeed, no European nation could
long hold back from interfering in the affairs of that
country. Such a state of things might lead to
great dissension among the Powers of Europe; and it was
most important for the preservation of that peace which
had long so happily prevailed, that order should be re-
stored to Spain. The institutions of the country, which
the people so mac& prided themselves in, had been over-
thrown; or, what was the same thing, had been nulli-
fied. He was far from saying that it was in the power
of his Noble Friend opposite to prevent those things,
but it was hardly possible that this country could be
much longer a silent spectator of such events. Those
who knew Spain must say that certain classes in that
country were very Much totlame for their readiness in
calling upon and accepting foreign assistance, come from
what quarter it might. It was this servility and com-
plaisance under a foreign yoke, to which the downfal of
the Regent might be attributed. The intention of raising
the Basque Provinces, and the attack upon the palace at
night, were well known in Paris long before they took place.
With respect to the revolution, which had terminated in
the fall of the Regent, he really believed there never was
a more objectless and wicked revolution. The news of
the Regent's fall, it might be remembered, had been re-
ceived in this country with symptoms of great regret,
and in Paris with a feeling of pleasure. He thought, in
the course the French Goveanment had adopted towards
Espartero, they had committed a great error, because of
the political sagacity which the Regent exercised on all
occasions, and because the smallest knowledge of the
Spanish character would . have been sufficient to have
shown the dangers which must result from his overthrow.
There were no persons interested in maintaining the
thrones of Europe but were interested in preventing the
overthrow of the Regent. The difficulties he had to con-
tend with entitled him to the greatest credit. He had
long, amidst foreign and domestic intrigue, maintained
the Government of the country, without a single
infraction of the laws or the Constitution. With
respect to the Queen, her position would have been
most difficult, even if her accession had taken place
under the most favourable circumstances. These diffi-
culties were greatly increased by her being compelled to
ascend the throne before the period originally fixed,
and by her being made the instrument for violating the
law, and running counter to the prejudices of the people
whom she governed: These were the auspices under
which the.youthful Sovereign of Spain had commenced
her reign ; and nothing could have been more easy than
to have foreseen or prevented such a state of things.
He (the Earl of Clarendon) certainly, for his pat, did
not believe the rumours which had been spread respect-
ing funds and emissaries being sent from France to
p_romote and sustain the insurrection ; but had the
French Government wished to uphold Espartero, they
should have enforced the same principles in
Spain which they had in Switzerland respecting Louis
Bonaparte, They might depend upuu it that a re-action
would ensue—that the greatest anarchy would hereafter
be the consequence and
that it would be almost mira-
culous if the Spanish throne could stand up amidst the
confusion; andyet it was said in the speech of the King of
the French that a most cordial understanding- subsisted
between England and France with respect to Spain. It
was strange enough that the announcement of that cor-
(fiat m2derqtlinding reisryca fQr thelinise When
.6"r 014j14 06d 484 14eell rOcrell• The fitie4n4 which

he (the Earl of Clarendon) wished to put was upon what
basis was it that this good understanding rested ? and
what was the policy hereafter to be adopted with respect
to Spain? Whether his Noble Friend thought it con-
sistent with his duty, to give an answer to that ques-
tion or not, he would take the liberty of saying that,
upon the united action of the Governments of France and
England depended the salvation of the people of Spain ;
particularly as this rood understanding must involve,
and probably related chiefly to, the marriage of the
Queen of Spam, and upon that depended the peace and
prosperity of that unfortunate country. He was con-
vinced that upon the selection of the Consort of the
Queen depended the establishment of peace and order
there. He was utterly at a loss to eonceive upon what
right was founded the claim made by the French Go-
vernment to restrict the Queen's right of choice to a
Prince of the House of Bourbon. The individual that
they selected was the Count Trapani, a youth of 16
years of age, the brother of the King of Naples, and
who bad been brought up the Junta at Rome, and was
destined for holy orders. He was astonished that such
a choice should be made—the Court of Naples was the
the only one in Europe that had protested against the
ancient order of succession, and the present King had, after
the late revolution, refused to permit his sister Al aria Chri-
stine to cross the frontier of his kingdom into Naples. If
from such a marriage as the house of Naples would fur-
nish, Spain should again become subject to those
priestly and kingly influences, under which that country
had for so many centuries laboured, he did hope they
would not be able hereafter to plead the advice and con-
currence of England. The Noble Earl concluded by
repeating the questions which he had put in the course
of his observations.

The Earl of ABERDEEN thought the question of
their relations with France would justify a motion before
the House, rather than a mere question. He rejoiced
that the Noble Lord concurred in the general expression
of satisfaction at the establishment of a good understand-
ing between this country and France.—(Hear, hear.)
The Noble Lord had entered at considerable length into
the events that had taken place in Spain, in the attempt
to establish the constitution existing there, and had de-
scribed the various impidiments which had been thrown in
the'way of the completion of that design. No one was better
acquainted than the Noble Lord with the anomalies
often presented by Spanish affairs ; but he believed it
would puzzle him, or any one else, on looking back on
the various revolutions, insurrections, and changes, that

had taken place there for the last ten years—'sinCe the
death of King Ferdinand the Seventh—to give any intel-
ligible or consistent account of the causes or motives of
any one of them. When an event of this kind took
place it was very easy to attribute it to foreign influence,
and to say, Oh ! this was plotted in Paris—that was
contrived in London. The Noble Lord knew well that

if the overthrow of Espartero was supposed to have been
contrived at Paris, it was no less generally believed that
his elevation to power was contrived in London ; this
was believed to have been as much an English project,
for English interests, as his downfal, according to the
Noble Lord, was attributed to the efforts made in France,
and the contrivance and assistance of the French Govern
meat. He believed that both one and the other statement
had an equal degree of truth—that is, they had no truth
at all. He was as satisfied that the English Govern-
ment had nothing to do with the elevation of Espartero,
and the consequent abdication of the Queen Regent, as
he was that his overthrow was not the work of the
French Government. The late revolution in Spain
might be objectless and senseless, as the Noble Lord
had described it, but to say that it was not a national
revolution, was to say what was contrary to all observa-
tion. In.the course of six weeks there was not a village in
Spain that had not declared against the Regent; there was
no party in the country, even including his own sovereign,
who did not unite to expel and overthrow the Regent.
When he was escaping from the troops who pursued him
to Cadiz, when he found himself in safety there, he
dared not proceed to, or land, at any one of the thirty
or forty strong places which Spain has on the coast,
but sailed direct to England. Had he not lost
all hope rf support, he would not thus have
at once abandoned his country. He contended
that so general a movement could not have been pro-
ducedHisN bh
lye
Friendfore i
I,angeewn
that
hy a
t; iht e ww asa s perfectlyll y
of being the author of the revolution of La Granja ; but
however much or little the Noble Lord might have had
to do with it, it was certain that their course of policy
had been to meddle too much with the affairs of Spain.
The fall of Espartero himself was hastened by a very
general belief that he was under the influence of Eng-
land. There was no characteristic of the Spanish peo-
ple more marked than their resistance to foreign influ-
ence. Though they might submit to it for a time, yet
they would rise and resist it afterwards, at a time when
they might destroy the wholesome influence that we did
possess. He assured the Noble Lord that the good
understanding with the Courts of France, with
respect to Spain, was not founded on any
specific engagement. It was founded on a belief
that the interests of the two countries were not so much
at variance as to prevent their acting cordially together,
and it was founded on a mutual trust in the honour and
integrity of each other, and rested on a desire to secure
the complete independence of Spain, to promote the es-
tablishment of the constitutional system, and to dere-
lope the great natural resources of that country. These
were their only objects ; he acknowledged'no other—he
knew no other. With respect to the marriage of the
Queen of Spain, that was exclusively and entirely -a
Spanish question, to be decided by the Spanish people
themselves ; he could assure the Noble Lord that Eng-
tand and France had come to no understanding on this
subject which could interfere with the complete inde-
pendence of the Spanish nation. Whether they might
think fit to choose a Prince of the House of Bourbon or
not, was for themselves to decide.

The Earl of-CLARENDON expressed his gratifies
tion at the opportunity he had given for the answer a
the Noble Earl.

Lord HO WDEN said that he had travelled a good
deal in France and Spain, and he believed it would take
two or three years to do away with the effects of
what the Noble Earl (Clarendon) had said on this subject.
The House then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 12.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock.
Papers from the Poor-law Commissioners and returns
from the Rank of Enzland were presented.
POOR-LAWS.

Mr. WALT IRpresented a petition from the Poor-
law Guardians of Bury, praying for an alteration in the
bastardy clause of the Poor-law Act.

WINDOW-TAX.

Mr. W. LASCELLtS presented a petition from the
licensed victuallers of Wakefield, praying to be relieved
from the window-tax. _

Mr. SMYTHE presented a petition to the same effect
from Canterbury.
THE PROPOSED DUTY ON COAL.
Mr. ORD presented a petition from Newcastle-on-
Tyne, against the proposed increase in the duty on coal
imported into London.
Mr. HUT presented a petition to the same effect
from Gateshead.
ST. ASAPH AND BANGOR.

Lord CLIVE presented .a petition against the union
of these two sees.
CAMBRIDGE ELECTION.

Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition from Mr. James
Coppock, praying that the evidence taken before the
Cambridge Election Committee might be produced as
evidence in a certain action now pending in the Court of
Queen's Bench.
. . . . .

The petition having been read,
Mr. M. GIBSON made a motion in conformity with
the prayer of the petition, which was agreed to.
Lord G. Somerset, Sir Geo. Grey, and Mr. Wilson
Patten were sworn at the table as Members of the Com-
mittee of Selection for Election Petitions.
THP LATE OUTRAGE AT BRIGHTON.

Capt. PECHELL said that, seeing. the Right Hon.
Gentleman, the Secretary at War in his place, he
wished to draw his attention to a question which he put
to him on Saturday., regarding an outrage committed by
a body of soldiers in Brighton upon the property and
persons of some of the inhabitants. He wished to
know if the Right Hon. Gentleman had received any in-
formation whether such - steps would be taken by the.
Horse Guards Kr would prevent the recurrence of such
practices?
Sir H. HARDINGE said he found by the papers
that the quarrel alluded to by the Right Hon. Gentleman
originated in a soldier being obstructed and assaulted
by three or four men, inhabitants of Brighton. lie
called to his companions for assistance, who turned out
and pursued the men, who took refuge in a house the
property of which they destroyed. It was impossible to.
vindicate the violence and outrage which took place on
the occasion. Their conduct was most improper ; but, as
the regiinent volunteered to give compensation to the
person whose property was destroyed, and as one of the
parties stood accused of an assault and riot, it would not
be necessary for him to enter into the details of the sub-
ject. In order to prevent a recurrence of such violence,
the Horse Guards would take the necessary steps.
WOOD PAVEMENT.

Mr. HUME wished to ask the Noble Lord, the Chief
Commissioner of the Woods and Forests, whether it
was intended to pave George-street, Westminster, White-
hall, and Parliament-street, with wood ?
Lord LINCOLN said that the Commissioners of Woods
and Forests were not the sole Paving Commissioners
for Westminster. He believed that the inhabitants
of the streets alluded to had applied to the Commis-
sioners to have those streets paved with wood, but the
answer had been that the Commissioners would not
entertain any proposal for the extension of the wood
pavement at present. He believed that the whole sub-
ject would be taken into consideration after Easter.

NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mr. FERRAND gave notice that, on the motion of the
Hon. Member for Stockport, for a Select Committee to
inquire into the operation of the import duties being pro-
posed, he should move, as an amendment, that the Com-
mittee be also directed to inquire into the effect produced
upon the wages of the manufacturing operatives by the im-
migration of agricultural labourers into the manufacturing
districts at the requisition of the mill-owners; also, if the
representations which had been made to those labourers
to induce them to immigrate were true, and if the agree-
ments entered into with them had been fulfilled; and
also the effect which the increase of machinery had
produced upon the wages of the manufacturing operatives.
Mr. S. WORTLEY gave notice of his intOticai to
Rpur4tE thatN the House gave notice that on the mo-
do resolve itself into a
move amendments to certain clanseg in the Factories Bill.
tioSu tiirCeillngA
Committee of Supply on the Navy Estimates, heiWuld
dthireec
Mr. WALL ACE postponed his motion for an instruc-
tion to the Committee on Railways till this day WINICI
Bt the
oardaQtrteAnatir4oniraoit fi the -19.1.119 to the constitution of
He also postponed his motion 011 the qtigetickti being wit
that the Tim& 4 1,54:11v,/ isAt. ilFitio Cenriittee of
tlpply tmtil Alon ay next"
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'Mr. ITEMIK Os pored 104 ntioll fqr. tA Sel(tict 90411,
qiitte§ 0 i 191,410 4Atc! tile 81.11V4i 0 §lANxittle, until

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Tuesday week, and also gave notice that in the event •f
the House agreeing to the amendment of which the
Hon. Member for Sheffield had given notice on the
motion of the Hon. Member for Pontefract, proposing
that a provision should be made for thy, Roman Catholic
clergy of Ireland, he (Mr. Hume) should propose that an
humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that
her Majesty would be pleased to direct an inquiry to be
made for the purpose of ascertaining whether the number
of persons dissenting from the Established Churches of
England, Ireland, and Scotland, was not greater than
the number of those in communion with those churches.
and, if so, whether the time was not arrived when tl:e
public property which had been devoted to the uses of
those churches ought to be withdrawn, regard being had
to existing interests, and whether the greater portion of
it ought not to be devoted to the promotion of national
education.