The Sun.
London, England, 1844-08-22 00:00:00

IRELAND

REPEAL ASSOCIATION.

DUBLIN, Auu. 19.—The usual weekly meeting of the
Association was held this day, in the Conciliation Hall.
The chair was taken by R. Dillon Browne, Esq., M.P.
The CIA.IRMAN addressed the meeting at some length
on the Charitable Bequests Bill, which he denounced in
the most emphatic terms, and stated that if the Irish
Members had exhibited the least opposition to the mea-
sure, it would not have become the law of the land. In
the course of the many interviews he had with Lord
Eliot on the subject, his Lordship unequivocally stated
that if it were the wish of the Irish Members, he would
eithes withdraw the Bill, or, at all events, postpone it.
M. DANIEL O'CONNELL said, that before the business
of tlfe day commenced, he had to move a resolution
adopted by the Parliamentary Committee, and which he
was sure would meet with the hearty concurrence of the
meeting. The Honourable Gentleman then real the fol-
lowing resdlution, and moved its adoption:—
" Parliamentary Committee, Loyal National Repeal
Association, Corn Exchange Rooms, Dublin, Aug. 16.
" Resolved—That we cannot separate, even for a short
period, without our most marked and grateful thanks to
eur respected Chairmen, William Smith O'Brien, ESq.,
M.P., for the services which he has rendered to Ireland,
not only by his powerful and unanswerable advocacy of
the rights of his country in Parliament, but for the still
greater benefits he has c inferred upon us by his con-
stant and unremitted attendance upon this (the Parlia-
mentary) Committee, whereby we were enabled to get
through a vast quantity of business of the highest im-
portance to the repeal cause ; which, but fur his most
invaluable assistance, we never could have accompli-hed.
'Passed unanimously.
" THOMAS DAVIS, Chairman."
The country knew full well the value of the services of
Mr. Smith O'Brien—they were beyond all praise.
Dr. MURPRY seconded the adoption of the resolution,
which passed amidst the loudest demonstrations of
applause.
Mr. O'Cose-mee handed in several remittances—
amont them 351. from Liverpool, and 200/. from Hali-
fax, Nova Scotia. Ile then read the following letter
freaa Mr. W. T. Wyse, M.P.:—
" 17, Wilton-place, Belgrave-square, Aug. 10.
Dear Sir,,---Permit me to return my grateful ae-
laeawledgments for the honour which has been done me
and my fellow Members who supported my motion for
an inquiry into the facts connected with the formation of
the jury at the late state trials in Ireland, by the rote of
thankit_passed unanimously at your meeting of last
Monday, and of which a copy has just reached me. I
earnestly wish it hied been in my power to have esta-
blished some stronger claim to public gratitude than the
honest, NO; successless effort to vindicate trial by jury,
froin-eveu t.'ie suspicion of partiality, and an attempt to
obtain at least an inquiry into allegations, which, if
true, as I belie,7e them to be, go far to vitiate the whole
proceedings, end inflict a serious injury, not only on Mr.
O'Connell and his fellow-sufferers, but on the rights of
all, and the cause, itself of public justice. These opi-
nions I entertained, and entertain, and shall never cease
to say so—until met by some stronger argument than
assertion—both in and out of Parliament.
" Thanking you personally for the courtesy of your
communication, I beg you te believe me, dear Sir,
" Your faithful and obedient servant,
" THOS. WYSE.
Martin Crean, Esq., Actirg Secretary,
Repeal Association, Dublin."
Mr. T. M'NEVIN (barrister) brought forward a report
on the " hurrying of Bills through 2erliament," and then
commented on the indecent haste with which measures,
particularly those having reference to Ireland, were
passed on the termination of the session, whilst the early
part of it was spent with little or no advantage to the
country. The Learned Gentleman then referred to the
alteration in the sentiments of Sir Robert Peel towards
Ireland, and expressed his conviction that they could not
expect sincerity from e. Statesman educated in the school
o(an Eldon.
Sir V. BLAKE, M.P., read a letter from Dr. M`Hale,
Archbishop of Tuano, and moved its insertion on the
minutes.

Dombrain; ant the Vice-commodore, Captain BoWie,
were in attendance upon his Excellency.
The jetty at Kingstown was crowded wi h people.
CHARGE OF SEDITION.
At Galway sessions, on Friday, Joseph Keys, a man
of colour, who had been forcibly ejected from a temper-
ance room, for having delivered a seditious speech to the
members, was brought up in custody.
Mr. John Tyrrell, repeal warden, stated that he was,
on the evening of Tuesday the 6th instant, at the Parent
Temperance Room, and that while the band was prac-
tising the prisoner entered, and, calling for silence, ob-
served that he was one of those who owed their emanci-
pation to Mr. O'Connell, who was then in prison ; that
the repeal would be had, but not until their repeal but-
tons were flung aside, and the sword and pitchfork taken
up first. Witness, on hearing this language, called upon
the persons present to put out the prisoner, which was
done at once. _ _ _

Other witnesses corroborated this statement.

The prisoner then stated that he was a sailor, and
lived last at Newtown Forbe., three miles from Longford
where he was repairing a boat; that he cline to Galway
on the sth ins:ant, in expectation he might get employ-
ment in a ship. He recollected he had been at the Tem-
perance Rooms, but not what he had said ; and it was
el ident that unless he were tipsy he would not have
gone among strangers, or done what was imputed to him.
Mr. G RIFFITII, one of the magistrates, said, it was the
opinion of himself and Mr. Kernan, that the prisoner
ought not to be committed for trial on the charge, but
bound in his own recognizances of 201. to keep the peace
for seven years.
The prisoner then entered into his own recognizances,
and was liberated.

SPIRIT lit the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY.
GLOI3E.—Of the bombardment of Tangiers
ample details will be found in another column. The
descriptions of the operations, and the comments
upon the mode in which they w-cre executed, from
professional men who witnessed therns without having
their attention distracted by taking an active part
in the scene, will be interesting to every class of
readers ; but will be deeply so to naval and military
men. The latter will know how to appreciate the
tactics of the assailants, and the gallant re:istance of
the assailed. According to the accounts of the British
officers who watched the proceedings, the French
have little to boast of in the way of superiority in
naval fight. Their unskilfulness in pointing their
guns ; the fuss and fury with which their ships com-
menced the attack in connexion with the compara-
tively trifling results of their fire upon the forti-
fications against which it was directed, caused no
little merriment among the British officers and
men who were spectators of the scene. The
merit of their criticisms we do not profess to discuss.
That the exciting scene should call up reminis-
cences of former days, when the " tug of war" was
between the assailants and the spectators, was but
natural. That these recollections should cause the
pulse of our brave seamen to beat with a quickened
pace, and inspire them with something approaching
to a wish for an opportunity of proving that British
skill and prowess have experienced no diminution,
will not excite surprise. \\re can appreciate the
feelings which they express with characteristic
ardour, without sharing in the hopes they breathe,
that their services will be again required to vin-
dicate the honour and protect the interests of their
country. From the attack on Tangiers—which seemed
to threaten an interruption of the pacific relation
between France and England—a transition to the sub-
ject of increased or diminished probability of a rup-
ture between the two countries, is easy and natural.
The public mind is tremblingly alive to this inquiry.
_Hope and fear, anxiety and confidence —with the mo-
difications of which each class of feeling is susce pti ble—
ascend and descend in the scale of national feeling, like
the mercury in the tube. The intelligence supplied by

Mt. O'CONNELL then rose to make his weekly return
from the prison. He had to repeat his usual report of
the health and spirits of the imprisoned martyrs. They
were perfectly, well and full of hope. It was likely,
in all appearance, that England would want the lion
heart and stout arm of Ireland, and she could • easily
procure both the -one and the other, not by the
means of the plausible hypocrisy and sweet words
of Sir Robert Peel, but by the substantial . instru-
mentality of doing justice to the Irish. He could
state of his own knowledge that Mr. O'Connell felt
the deepest regret at- not being present in the Repeal
Association that day, to join in the vote of national gra-
titude to Mr. Smith O'Brien. His opinion, he knew,
was, that it was not possible to find words sufficiently
strong to mark the pre-eminent value of that gentleman's
services in the cause of Ireland. He thought it quite
providential that a gentleman of Mr. Smith O'Brien's
high &erecter, rank, family, and station in society, and
Of his great talents aid unimpeachable personal and po-
litical integrity should be at the head of the repeal
movement at the present moment. It was of the greatest
advantage that the leader of the repeal movement at pre-
sent should be a Protestant gentleman of ancient family.
Mr. Smith O'Brien, therefore, had all the ingredients of
great public utility, and he had sterling patriotism to ren-
der these ingredients available for Ireland. lle could state
it to be the opinion of Mr. O'Connell that the Association
should take steps to get as many persons as possible, not
being already pledged teetotallers, to take the abstinence
pledge for a limited period—that is, until the repeal of
the union. Mr. O'Connell had consulted Father Mathew,
who approved of the limited plan for those who would
not take the pledge for life. Four of Mr. O'Connell's
grandsons had already taken it in the limited shape, and
Mr. Smith O'Brien upon his return from the country
would probably shape a motion for an aggregate meet-
ing at Clontarf; or some other suitable vicinity, to ad-
minister " The Repeal Total Abstinence Pledge."
He had also naafi' to know that Mr. O'Connell con •
curred in another suggestion of Mr, Smith O'Brien, to
have another pledge taken, as universally as possible,
against the consumption of tobacco in any. shape until
the repeal of the union. That pledge, if universally, or
even generally taken, would have a great effect upon
the minds of British statesmen in favour of doing justice
to Ireland. Ire knew that it was the intention of Mr.
O'Connell himself, upon the 30th of Mgy, 1845, to in-
stitute a pledge for the non-consumption of exciseable
articles in Ireland, and also a pledge for the non-use of
any article not of Irish manufacture. All these pledges
would be upon the same footing as the total abstinence
pledge. Ia reporting to the Association the state of the
imprisoned martyrs, be had distinctly to state, of his own
knowledge, that nothing coul.l give more pleasure and
comfort to them than the continued tranquillity of Ire-
land. How insane must the policy of the British Minis-
ter be to think that lie can delude such a people by hypo-
critical pretences and plausible words, and how much
more than insane must lie be to refuse that people jus-
tice and constitutional freedom.
Mr. HENRY GIIATTAN, M.P., read the correspondence
which had taken place between Mr. Smith O'Brien and
Secretary of the Agricultural Society, and moved its
insertion on the minutes. The lion. Gentleman then
addressed the meeting at considerable length, adverting
to a variety of topics, with a view of >hoasing that there
was no hope fur Ireland save in the restoration of her
domestic legislature.
Mr. MARE BLAKR, ILP., handed in a sum of money
from the county of Mayo. ab
Mr. O'ConNsm. handed in 30L horn Prince Edward's
Island, and nom Milwankie, Wisconsin, United States,
Arneri7a, 9/. per Richard Murphy, Esq.. secretary, who
says—" While we (the repeaters of Milwankie) sin-
cerely condole with your friends throughout the world at
your (Mr. O'Connell's) imprisonment—one of the foulest
acts of British tyranny--we rejoice in the confident
hope that, though you suffer, your incarceration will
beget the peace and freedom of Ireland. A world's
sympathy is not to be disregarded—a fact which the
Tory Ministry may yet learn ; and that they have done
an act tending more than any other to excite that sym-
pathy seems to us evident."
Mr. J. REILLY, town councillor, handed in several
sums of money, forwarded to him for presentation, and
then addressed the meeting.
Mr. O'CONNELL thou announced the receipt of the
following sums from America :—Montreal, 1251. ; New
Brunswick, TOOL ; S. John's, 140/. He then said it
a mild be in the recollection of the meeting that a bill of

the continental arrivals of the morning influence the
transactions of the day. As the political vane shifts
its inclination, so commercial operations are checked
or encouraged, and monetary transactions are de-
pressed or revive. The letter of our Paris corre-
spondent states that an improved state of feeling
toward England pervades the public mind of the
French capital. It is there generally believed that
the two Governments have arrived at an under-
standing respecting the subject-matter of difference,
which will lead to the amicable adjustment of the
disputes arising out, of the outrages committed at
Otaheite by the French authorities; and also to a
satisfactory termination of the yet more formidable
affair of Tangiers. Of such a result we had no doubt,
if the two Cabinets were actuated in the negotiations
by the sound policy on which the real interests of
their respective countries depend. Our apprehensions
of a contrary result were occasioned, on the one hand,
by the apparent disposition of the French Minister to
yield to the war party ; which has clamoured for ag-
gression and outrage, in opposition to justice and peace;
and on the other, by the apathy which seemed to have
crept over the Government of this country with
reference to its foreign policy. The former acted as
if it were its intention to provoke England to hostile
retaliation • while the latter seemed to encourage
renewed infractions of its rights, and movements por-
tentous to its interests, by indifference approaching
to insensibility; or—what was yet more reprehensi-
ble—by expostulation, the gentleness of which tended
to invite a repetition of outrage, rather than a repa-
ration for wrong already inflicted. Most glady shall
we hail a change in the councils of both Cabinets.
A determined re3istance of the war-faction, which
has striven to involve France in war with Eng-
land, will be the best evidence of the pacific po-
licy of the French Ministers. Such a determination,
if openly proclaimed, would be received by the bulk
of the French nation with approbation ; and would
crush the hopes of the noisy agitators, who have
sought to advance their own selfish projects, which
are threatened with extinction by the preservation
and perpetuity of peace. The best mole of indi-
cating a settled purpose to preserve peace, would be
to admit the wrongs done at Otaheite—to punish the
wrong-doers. Reparation should be made to the injured
Queen, by restoring her to the throne, with her powers
unimpaired and unfettered, from which she was de-
Fosed, without just reason or colourable pretext, by
rench authorities ; and to this country, for the in-
sult inflicted upon it in the person of its Consul.
While France confines her hostile operations against
Morocco to bombarding the fortifications on her coast,
let her expend as much powder and shot as she pleases in
that way : England will look on, without interfering,
or wishing to interfere, in the matter. But not a foot of
land must she seek to po.sess in that territory; nor
on any other part of that coast—save Algeria; which
she may keep, if she can. This, then, is the course
which a straightforward policy prescribes to the two
Governments. These are the terms which that of
England is bound to require of France, and France
to comply with. They are founded in justice; and
cannot be abated without compromising the honour
of England ; nor refused by France without im-
pugning the sincerity of the professions which she
makes of desiring the preservation of peace with
England.
STANDARD.—We have copied from the Times
some letters descriptive of the late attack upon Tan-
giers. We confess that if these letters had been
offered to ourselves in the first instance, we
should have hesitated to make public articles
written in a spirit so uncandid and offensive,
and which really tell so little of what the public
can be interested to know. The criticisms of
professional men upon the operations of rivals
are seldom too liberal, but it would be unjust
to the British navy to believe that the letter writers in
the Times are what they call themselves—naval
officers. We think that these letters present, besides
their extreme illiberality, other internal evidence

exchange for 174. 14s. 9d. had been returned to New demonstrative of the fact that the writers of them
Orleans, in consequence of some matter which was con- are not naval officers, though probably the letters
tsined in the letter which accompanied that remittance, may have been written on hoard the vessels from
recommending the adoption of measures which would which they were dated by some landsmen, instructed
have the effect of compromising their allegiance. Their by the gossip of the common sailors. As we
friends in New Orleans had acknowledeed their error, and unsatisfactory have observed, such offensive
and now forwarded them the sum of Mt., accompanied
letters ought not to have been printed without much
by tile following letter ':—
hesitation • but, as they have been printed, the mis-
" New Orleans, July 19, 1844. "
Dear Sir,—We have received your valued letter of chief has been done, and all that is now possible is to
the Ist, ult., in which you return us the bill of exchange limit its amount, by showing what the communi-
ties 1781. 14s. 9d., transmitted to you in aid of the Loyal cations are really worth. The writers charge the
National ttepotil Association of Ireland. We have care- Prince de Joinville pretty directly with want both
telly perused the reasons for which Mr. O'Connell would of skill and of courage, and impute a like want of
not receive this stsrider hut well-meant contribution, end courage to the French marine, and charge the
we have come to the conclusion that the elevated and sailors of the squadron with a great deficiency
patriotic motives of the reoeal question have not been in naval gunnery. Now, as to the degree
properly under Stood by our Society here.
I find,professional displayed by the Royal
of skill .
and indeed I may safely say we hare all found,
that the basis of this all-important questiou is founded Admiral, we are certainly no competent judges, and
upon such just, peaceable, and patriotic principles, that I if we were better qualified to judge of a naval
to pervert them would not only endanger this righteotv4
cause, but at the. same time ' operation than we can pretend to be under the most
jeopardise those valuable favourable circumstances, we want all the requisites
Jives, which are at present shedding so bright a lustre on for a correct judgment, knowledge of the orders
the glory of trelantl.
"In the nnme of the Rep-al Associati n I beg to state under which the Prince acted—knowledge of the
that we regret deeply that the resolution's 'accompany locality and its d(fsnsible parts, knowledge of
the state the former remittance Were of such a nature as to pre- of the tide, currents, wind, Scc. Nor do
chide the possibility of their beingerxecptrilevsesded;
expressed,
order the Times correspondents help us the least in
to prove that, although wrongly
were • these partizulars ; and, indeed, one of the strongest
still
v‘eii meant, we beg leave, most respectfully, to in- proofs to us that these persons are not " the
close yinfthe sum of 2-12/.naval officers " they are represented, is their
"In conclusion, we pray that the God of Justice may neglect of supplying that very kind of information
bless the fortunes of ' repeal.
which a professional man would consider the first to
" GEORGE W. REEDER, be offered. But if we are unable to form any opinion
" Corresponding Secretary of the Repeal Asses. from ourselves of the skill of the Prince de Joinville,
ciation of New Orleans.
we certainly shall not abide by the decision of such
" grateMatn Crean, Esq." , very incompetent judges as the Time ' correspondents.
It is •
Afte ma farther buminess, Mr. Henry Grattan an-
quite possible, nay, it is almost necessary, that
nounced the rent for the week, 1,162/. 3s. 9d.
the French commander may have made some mistakes.
The meeting then adjourned.
l' Every one, how much so ever experienced
INSPECTION OF THE REVENUE CRUISERS. takes at the commencement of, makes mis-
a great operation ; if
This day the splendid fleet of revenue cruisers now the mistake does not materially obstruct success, as it
_assembled in the Bay of Dublin, were inspected by the i did not at Tangiers, it rests uncorrected—it is only
I when it happens to be very important, that a
Lord Lieutenant.
twe.lre mistake gives a commander
doccasion to, prove
His Excellency reached Kingstown about
o'clock, and, after.srxne conversation with Mr. J. rim,
his skill by repairing it,
iv
their 1 fame upon
, or
repair-
mach pbaai thelr.n.
jun., the treasurer of the Dublin and Kingstown Rail-
s ay, and Mr. G. floe, one of the directors, respecting gr!atest commanders,pafa
coamninitd. As to the
the atmospheric line to Dalkey, which has excited so rested f noblsunniadlelrs
originallyt
and the
mach interest in all parts of Europe, embarked on hoard ing o
the revenue brig Shamrock, Captain Goldsmith, R.N., imputation upon the Prince's courage,
and sailed into the bay, where the fleet of cruisers went courage of the French navy, it is somewhat late in
,
through various evolutions. The Commodore, Sir J. 1 the day to impute cowardice to the blood of Henry

the Fourth, nothing degenerated, certainly, in that
most intrepid of Princes who now governs France ;
late in the day, also, to impute cowardice to a nation
which, within the memory of many now living, with
equal numbers, and in pitched fields, defeated suc-
cessively the gallant armies of all the most gallant na •
tions of Europe, except one which it does not become
us to name. No; a braver race than the French
people does not exist—probably never existed; if
they have ever found superiors in equal battle, the
superiority has lain in purely physical qualities, aided
by the stubborn confidence which a consciousness of
physical superiority almost always inspires, until
it becomes a habit of the mind. As to the defi-
ciency of the French in naval gunnery, before
subscribing to the opinion of the Times' cor-
respondents, we should like to know something of
the state of the weather; the condition of the sur-
face of the sea must seriously affect the success of
artillery practice at 800 or 1,200 yards' range. We
are more sceptical on this point, because we have
lately had the pleasure of conversing with some
bona fide naval officers—men alike distinguished
by their gallantry and their professional skill,
men, too, who having been for some years on the
Mediterranean station, were almost constantly in
company and in communication with the Preach
marine. Nov, the retort of the French naval gun-
nery which we have had from these 14, 'Wyman is
by no means consistent with the statements of the
Times correspondents. They say that the French
practice, is perfect, adding (not without a touch of
envious feeling) that all the French want is a
better quality of guns fully to equal the as
yet unrivalled gunnery displayed by the British
fleet at Acre. We think it proper thus to reply in
detail to what we believe to be the gross misrepre-
sentations of the Times, first, because it is always
right to tell the truth ; secondly, because the letters
in the Times indicate a feeling disgraceful to English-
men, and which, if not repudiated in this country as
it merits, mu it excite a had feeling elsewhere.

LA W INTELLIGENCE.
COURT OF BANKRUPTCY, Aug. 21.
(Before Mr. Commissioner FARE.)
IN THE MATTER OF JAMES GIBBS.

This bankrupt was the well known annuitant granter,
money borrower and lender, carrying on business in
Jermyn-street, St. James's, to an immense extent, he
having succeeded to the business of the firm of " Howard
and Gibbs," who some twenty years ago, entailed so
much ruin upon almost every class of society in this me-
tropolis.
The proceedings in the case of James Gibbs have oc-
cupied a considerable length of time before Mr. Com-
missioner liolroyd, and his final examination was ad-
journed sine die in consequence of the non-production
of a " private book," which it was sworn he had kept,
but which the bankrupt swore had been destroyed many
years ago.
The Learned Commissioner's decision was appealed
against in the Court of Review before Sir J. Knight
Bruce, when the following order was issued :—" This
Court doth order that tho said assignees (of James
Gibbs) do proceed bLlfore the Commissioner of her Ma-
jesty's Court of Bankruptcy, acting in prosecution of the
fiat in bankruptcy issued against the stud bankrupt, with
the examination and investigation of the bankrupt's ac-
counts, and with the further and full examination of the
said bankrupt touching his estate and effects, so far and
in all such respects as the same can be done under ex-
isting circumstances. But this order is to be without
prejudice to any question—whether the answers of the
said bankrupt, in the said petition mentioned or referred
to, have, or have not, been satisfactory or sufficient, and
without prejudice to any question as to the existence or
non-existence of the book or books in question, men-
tioned or referred to in the said petition, and the said
Commissioner is to be at liberty (if he shall think fit)
to make any special report to this Court, and this Court
doth order the said petition to stand over, on all the
questions and costs, ;and the said parties, or either of
them, are to be at liberty to apply to this Court touching
the matters of the said petition as they may be advised."