The Sun.
London, England, 1844-06-25 00:00:00

The Earl of POWIS contended that the ailToir
which had been anticipated in the Ecclesiasticlud
missioners' report from the union of the sees/t0
Asaph and Bangor had not been realised. ;00
anticipated in that report that the surplus remd
arising from the union would be divided aul°,lls-co
parochial clergy in the two dioceses. This
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tended was not the case, and that no such aPP
had been made. 01
The Bishop of BANGOR believed that the 500
opinion both amongst the clergy and laity efughtt°
Wales, was that the Bishopric of St. Asaph
be restored.
The Bishop of SALISBURY expressed hi s•
that so much delay had taken place in the est
ment of a Bishopric of Manchester, for such feel
was greatly needed. At present there were,begiet
than three millions of souls in the diocese of v tot
and he thought that alone was a sufficient rest he•
the erection of a Bishopric at Manchester. fei
lieved also that the time had arrived when 1401'
necessary to sub-divide other dioceses in the kink elf
The Bishop of NORWICH complained frost
alienation of the tithes which have taken Pt:lie/el
the parochial clergy of North Mika, and he u`St
that the opposition to the union of the seli ni•oslf.
Asaph and Bangor had arisen from that and WI/0W
With respect to the appointment of a Bishop 0.
chester, he could not help expressing his surPrl:l pot
the many wealthy persons of Manchester brcot
themselves come forward and provided the lo
boo
for a bishop. He confessed that sooner than n°t the
a bishopric of Manchester, he would consent Ties if
abolition of one of the bishoprics of North << io
it were necessary, for the establishment of a
Manchester.
The Bill then passed through Committee, and
ordered to be read a third time on Monday'.
BROTHELS SUPPRESSION BILL. selo
The Bishop of EXETER moved that the Hoe
then resolve itself into Committee on this Bill• ne of
Earl FITZHARDINGE said he had been ° re
a Select Committee to which this Bill had nilivel
ferred, and in that Committee he moved that,ln d
tot
expedient to take evidence upon the subject. lerid
motion he stood alone, but he still entertain ,„io,
same opinion with respect to the necessity of esth.
ing evidence upon the matter. He thought they 701
to have examined some of the leases of the Prectio
on which brothels were situated, in order tojt
whether prohibitory clauses had been introduced'
had been said that he had made a charge on t' the
occasion this Bill was before the House agairj9tes°
Dean and Chapter of Westminster. He had road hot
charge whatever against those individuals' two
he would now make a direct charge against
Since the last discussion on this subject, be had west'
inquiries of the vestry-clerk of St. Margaret's, 'wets
minster, and he found that at that instant theirechir
in existence, on the property of the Dean an"..t
ter of Westminster, brothels of the very
scription. Now this must have been kne”100!
the Dean and Chapter of Westmister, and theihter:l
have shared in their profits.—(Roars of laug
He thought that while they were legislating °11.,0
subject, they would not give satisfaction to the riot.
if they did not subject the Dean and Chapter aid
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minster to the operation of a Bill of Pains aoo
nalties if they allowed these houses to tontine
their property. DOA
The Bishop of GLOUCESTER defended the it•
and Chapter from the imputation which bad been to
tempted to be thrown upon them. The h°ll,esetit
which the Noble Earl had referred were at mao
held under leases for 40years, many of whichheu t fie
years to run. It was, therefore, impossible to ge dos
of such houses from such property as that. Stic.iistst
the anxiety of the Dean and Chapter of liresttb is
to clear their property of these houses that they 70
several cases purchased the leases, and in others
they had had the houses pulled down •in i.ord
houses were shut up. He would remind their :706
ships that property in the Almonry, in Westtniore•
was very different to property in Berkelersq
where a landlord could choose his own tenant' oh to
houses in the Almonry, however, could not heoltt
such favourable tenants.—(Laughter.) The sue
Lord had evidently grounded his charge upon
ment which had appeared in a newspaper called
Patriot.
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The Earl FITZHARDINGE said he 11.- boge,
no charge upon a newspaper statement ; this c eive°
was founded upon a statement which he had recrece,
from Mr. Rogers, the vestry-clerk of St. Mares
Westminster. With respect to the newspaper The
ment, he had originally seen it in the Examiner'
Patriot he had never seen in his life. tasel
The Bishop of GLOUCESTER said the staidtho
was contradicted in the Morning Herald anuneol
Standard in January, 1842. So far from the iitises
and Chapter of Westminster gaining by these 1%0
he could assure their Lordships that in many thei
they were absolutely losers. On that very day
had given notices to many of the tenants of P.
houses to quit. A fi°
The Bill then went through Committee, tin-
ordered to be reported to morrow (this day). 04
The Bills on the table were advanced a stage'
their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 24. ,QT.
OPENING OF LETTERS IN THE Pv"
OFFICE: ti
Mr. M ACAULAY (in continuation from our the
Edition), said—Could any man who looked toto
history of nations and times, where and when t°.f4, it
was a practice, doubt that, great as were its evi
ered
sometimes prevented crimes, and sometimes disc°looo
them? Why in the history of our own count* t
the rack was shown to Guy Fawkes, he let olt
whole story of the Gunpowder Plot. But that kog
chance of good counterbalanced the evil of brewo3
up the constitution, trampling on its principlesfoora
destroying the manly spirit upon which for most
than upon any discoveries the police can make, s.!
depend the freedom and happiness of natt°fi .s of
(Great cheers.) He looked to these proeneuir° own
the Government with great uneasiness as to etafor
country, but still more so as regarded those,-0.-"
tunate foreigners who took refuge amongst
(Hear, hear.) The greatness of the evil /Late:
creased by the mystery with which it was eot!
—(Cheers.) The Right Hon. Baronet said 0004
since he came into office the letters of twelve Pdeepoi
had been opened. But the question did not
nag hi
on the number of the cases, but upon the relt" goo.
which they were justified, of which the RlP(fiear'
Baronet refused to give any explanation ..--;14o0.
hear.) He (Mr. Macaulay) gave the Righ'Fridal
Baronet credit for an honourable character on id have
night, yet still he must say that if he Nu' ifol'
denied that stamps were counterfeited, and !e.„ that
tated, and letters re-sealed to evade the suartel:so.'
they had been opened, he would have Bondwit)
(Cheers.) But the House could not be sativeorable
an explanation such as the Right 11:/nestate
Baronet had given.—(Loud cheers.) To of
hypothetical case. Two years ago the ounse'd bf
in a state of great excitement—violence was talc t°
great numbers to compel persons willing to "rod?'
abandon their labour, and join the wandering ebv
Much danger to the country was threatened avail?'
violence. At that time all the organs of the hat thig
ment party were in the habit of asserting tioglie.
violence was the work of the Anti-Corn-Jaw nod he
He was not the nominee of the League, nor what
hold a seat in Parliament as their nominee ; taighP
wished to have some assurance as to whether
not, under the circumstances, have been f°lllette°
cessary by the Secretary of State to open the letters
of twenty or thirty English gentlemen, th.os and to
relating for the most part to private affalltrespolli
important trade concerns, in which the e°`ea
dents alone were interested, or by the publican
rettlii
which their commercial interests might h!vga'a stl,l
grid po'
affected. But the case of the foreigner iaglia'?
worse.—(Hear.) Whatever the letter of the
man might contain, you could not bang 11° $ JOB!.
prison him, or punish him in any way without hole
and jury ; but a poor Italian coming bere'romeat,
incurred some suspicion of his own Gnv,e.utionl'
i but confiding in the security of English nslreadoni
he corresponded with his friend in greater oaae•
than he would venture upon but for that eosoot in-
-(Hear, hear.) The Austrian Gover. int% is
forms the Foreign Secretary that the Ittilla their
dangerous person—his letters are opened, „Tst he
contents are communicated to Austria, w°,l4 Post
unsuspicious that the sacredness of the EnPlis
office has been violated—he goes back to is at
country, then out pops the information, and b_oertainli
once, without the intervention of a judge!
without the protection of ury, inyteorFoote
from which there is little p
rosppect he willparttasex_o_i.iiihtortuibegii
out.—(lmmense cheering.) For his
he (Mr. Macaulay) never encouraged a.
respect upon the governments of foreign Should be
but thought something of diplomatic decency Troll I
observed towards them by the Ministersoft
Ministers) "Ire
yet, he must say, that if they (the
etbef
not appointed the judges of those Gov.ernm ;loose
should never stoop to be their the Se
cheering.) He thought it would be better 1
sa. that
spies. (
eretary for Foreign Affairs were enabled tr°to
i.
the laws of this country gave him no. power rtors,
with the wishes of Foreign Powers such such
and he would willingly vote for a Bill to declare
sto,„,i, be
to be the law. However, as the question. .11
would vote for the motion for a Committee 0113 f !isult"
—(The Right Hon. Gentleman sat down_ ae
hement and repeated cheers. When th
the i-
subsided there was a pause of several seconds,c ra-
festly in expectation that some one on the .lu'
rial benches would rise.)
Captain BERNAL then said that, whilst
men on the other side were satisfied to _ot be
House with the g cothost of an answer, he couladuet
silent without expressing his surprise at the " ,i 4
of Ministers, and his dissent from the inonatro
doctrines which they had laid down.—(Cheers.) :;.,
had thought it was the proudest boast of this count
that we were free from petty annoyances of.
from the opening of letters, and from donlic