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forward at a time when it was utterly impossible to give
to that measure the calm, patient, and lengthened in-
quiry which it required. It had been conceived, as it
appeared by certain members of that assembly with
great deliberation, but it was expressed and accompanied
by more than usual infelicity. That being so, in mea-
sured and temperate language, without any allusion to
the authors of the measure in the other assembly, this
house, without a division unanimously, and apparently
even with the aesent of its propounders, came to the
determination not to entertain it. That decision having
been come to a scene took place in the other deliberative
body in which a grave and learned and most eminent
pereetn disappointed apparently at the measure not hav-
ing been received here, addressed that house into language
which I find thus reported in history. (Laugr) It i 3
by examples of the past thet see are to correct our con•
duct for the future. Lord St. Leociardss, after alluding
to a bill which he had prepared and introduced to
protect honest trustees, in reference to what had passed
in another place, is represented to have said :
"On that occasion, however, the learned organ of the
Government in the House of Commons stated that the
measure was so inaccurate and obscure, and so inadequate
for the purpose for which it was intended, that it would re-
quire at least three days to make it right. That learned
person then added—with the confidence which belonged to
him—(a laugh)—and by which he was led to imagine that
ha couldmake that clear which was obscure, substitutelight
for darkness, and make that adequate which was inade-
quate, that he himself would undertake to introduce a'suit-
able measure on the subject in the next session of Plrlia-
ment. He certainly was astonished to learn that that
learned person had spoken in those terms of a measure
which had been prepared with such great care and delibe-
ration, and which had passed through their lordships'
house without any great objection."
I do not know whether these terms are to be deemed
complimentary or the opposite. (A. laugh.) I rather
believe that they were not used with the intention of
conveying any praise, but rather of personally holding
up a member of the other deliberative body, who had
performed what he conceived to be his duty in this
house, to ridicule and public observation on the ground
of that speech. Now, the individual alluded to unques-
tionably felt a good deal of pity for the irritable feeling
that prompted these observations —(a laugh)—and
although he might have brought the matter before the
body to which he belonged, yet from considerations of
the past he abstained, and contented himself with ad-
dressing a remonstrance to the members who heard this
speech, and with expressing an earnest desire that pro-
ceedings such as these, which were likely to lead to feel-
ings of rupture between the two bodies, might not be for
the future persevered in. (Hear.) Now, sir, on another
occasion a grave question arose before that deliberative
assembly touching the most important institution in a
country—viz., the great supreme Court of Appeal. The
person who has now the honour'of addressing this great
assembly was called upon by many members of this
house to declare the opinion which he had formed from
his experience of the way in which that great court had
discharged the functions committed to it by the consti-
tution, and what might be required, if need were, t i
render it more satisfactory in the performance of ,those
functions. A great debate ensued in which many mem-
bers took part, and which ended with an expression of
the carefully considered opinion of the body then delis 1
berating. These proceedings, being communicated to
the public in the ordinary way, attracted the attention
of the members of another assembly. These grave and
learned persons to whom I have referred, and to
whom that body should look up as guides in matters
of order, met together to express an opinion upon
what had been stated in another council of the nation.
This is the language which history records to have
been used on that occasion by the very grave and learned
person who fills the highest judicial seat in the courts of
law in this country :
" Lord Campbell had witnessed, he must say with indig-
nation, the attack that had been made on their lordships'
judicial jurisdiction by her Majesty's Solicitor-General. It
was a most violent attack,having a direct tendency to bring
their jurisdiction into disrepute, and it was astonishing that
it should comefrom an officer of her Majesty's Government.
It was an attack upon the constituted authorities of the
country and upon a public functionary— for he (Lord
Campbell) must say that it appeared to him to be an at.
tack on his noble and learned friend on the woolsack who
presided over their lordships' proceedings when sitting as
a court of appeal. It seemed to him, if the report were a
just representation of what fell from the Solicitor-General,
that he thought that justice would never be satisfactorily
administered in their lordship' house until he (the Solici-
tor-General) was presiding on the woolsack."
(A laugh.) Now, sir, if I were speaking of the language
used by John Thomas to James Styles out of doors, I
should pass it by as that species of personality which
indicated great want of good breeding and good man
ners. (Laughter.) But dads history says true, and if
these words did proceed from one who was bound to
maintain all order, all gravity, and all decency, why,
undoubtedly, it is a thing to be spoken of with the
greatest pain and regret. So far as the ifistitutien is
concerned to which I have referred—these remarks
having been made when the individual had no power to
bring them before the other body, which had adjourned
—that individual was content with the ample revenge
which be afterwards had, without any act of his, by
these same learned persons appointing a committee to
consider that very institution of which they had con
etituted themselves the champions in these singularly
vulgar terms—(a laugh)—and this committee, by the
evidence they took and their own report, said much
worse and more severe things of the institution in
question than they had attributed to the unfortunate
Solicitor-General. (A. laugh.) To crown the matter, the
individual who used this language came to this very So-
licitor-Gelieral, and, with an inconsistency which those
who know him better than I have the honour to do tell
one is not an unusual thing—(a laugh)—deplored the
state of this very institution, and begged the assistance
of the person to whom he applied iu devising means of
improvement. (Hear.) So much with regard to the
past. With regard to a later occurrence, there is also
recorded in history a passage which I wish humbly to
submit is deserving of grave consideration. It is the pro-
vince of the judges of the land to declare the law, but to
declare the law in their courts, after argument, upon a
judicial occasion, and after grave deliberation. It is most
deeply to be deplored if there should happen to be in
any country a judge of the greatest eminence and autho-
rity, who must know well that, in a particular juncture
of cirmemstances, he might be called upon to sit in judg-
ment upon a particular case, and who yet, with reference
to that case, before it came before him, gratuitously and
unnecessarily rushed into public, and declared that the
law which governed the case was so and so, and teat all
who held a different opinion committed such grievone
errors that it gave him the most acute pain to observe
the blunders into which they had fallen. (Hear, and a
laugh.) Well, air, if there is a man who should have done
such a thing, and if such a man should be clothed with
the ermine of the highest station, I think this house
would be of opinion with me that he would disqualify
himself from sitting as a judge to hear and determine
that question, if the case on which he had thus given an
opinion and decision should arise. (Cheers.) There is
nothing more to be deplored in the judges of the laud
than that they should be " incontinent of tongue." I
quite agree that when the occasion demands the expre .
sion of opinion it ought to be given with firmness, and I
would not desire to check it in any manner. Bat I hum-
bly trust this house will agree with me in deploring the
case when it should arise, and when individuals
clothed with that authority should be found in this
manner to commit themselves by opinions whch render
them incompetent to discharge the hieheet judicial func-
tions (Hear hear.) I have another object in trespassing
upon.
th , e house, It is very inferior to that to which 1
have alluded, and yet to me it is extremely dear and
extremely important, and I trust the house will allow use
to speak upon it with great sincerity and without sffsc
tation. (Hear, hear.) °lf there is anything that I have
felt due to the house during the time that I have had the
honour to hold office, it is that when I have been called
upon by the House of Commons to give an opinion I
should give it faithfully, conscientiously, according to
the best of my knowledge, and with the sincere belief
that it is correct and well grounded. Therefore, when
I am charged with having made to the House of Coes -
aeons a statement so erroneous that no man of common
understanding could have made it, it is most important
to me that I should be borne with while I bring before
the house the accusations and the answers. (Hear, hear.)
On Friday night last during the discussion which took
place on the bill then before the house, 1 was called up n,
in a very earnest manner, by my right hon. friend the
member for the University of Oxford to express my
opinion on that measure. I ventured to give that opinion
to the house as clearly and as accurately as I could. I
must confess that I had a certain horror of endeavouring
to guard myself by rsinr words of doubt or ambiguity.
It is a very common practice with la wyera to avoid giv-
ing an opinion upon any doubtful etiew.ien. They say that
the decision may be on this side or on that, and, in point
of fast, they give no opinion whatever. (Laughter.)
Now, on all occasions upon which I have been called
by the House of Commons to examine a subject with
the view of stating my opinion, I have been desirous
whether it be a merit or demerit to form the best opinion
I could, and to express it in the clearest and simplest
language. The tenor of my argument on last Friday
night, as hon. members will bear me out, was this: I
WAS desirous of showing that an alien stood upon a dif-
ferent footing from that of a Britieh-born subject
that wit
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reference to particular eases.
I am quite sure
hon. gentleman who did me the favour of attending
to what I said for a single moment supposed that I ever
affirmed the state of the law to be this—that an alien
it
coming to this country could rob, or murder, or comm
any species of violence without being amenable to law.
(Hear, bear.) But will the house believe me when I say
teat that particular proposition having been extrac ed
from the rest of my speech was put forte. in another place
as representing my arguments upon Friday last. Now,
sir, I happened to be in a particular room in which the
following took place. A grave and learned judge rise
and
said that he was desirous of P u`,ting a question to a
noble and learned lord. The person interrogated was
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be no reference to a matter which has occurred insahouled
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Commons will concur in it—namely, that there is nothing
of greater importance than to adhere to the standing
orders. (Cheers.) It is with the view of having those
standing orders enforced that I take the liberty of now
rising to order. If the house wish that a matter which
personally affects the hon. and learned gentleman should
be explained, let them give him a specific indulgence to
that extent—(cheers)—but let not our standing orders
be infringed by any one, and least of all by the course
proposed by the hon. and learned gentleman. (Cheers,
cries of " Chair !" and " Sit down !")
The SPEAKER—In answer to the appeal made to
me I must give my opinion that up to this period the
address of the hon. and learned member has not teens-
greased the rules or standing orders of the house. (Hear.)
He is now taking an opportunity of making a personal
explanation, and the house always permits hon. mem•
hers to make such explanations. (Hear, hear.)
Sir R. BETHELL—I ant desirous of stating as briefly
as 1 can what was really the argument maintained by use
on the occasion in question. The particular expressions
then used by me were to this effect—
" The state of the English law I believe to be this—that
foreigners are able to do in this country that which your
own subjects are unable to do in this country, and that
which would be a crime in natural born British subjects is a
matter of impunity in foreigners."—Tieics report, Feb. 20.
An illustration of that was subsequently given by me
in the following words :
" I believe that the state of the law may be thus accu-
rately represented—supposing two or more foreigners in
this country conspire together to commit a crime abroad,
although the thing which they conspire to do is a ulnae,
yet, if it be committed abroad it would not be punishable
by the law of this country; neither is the conspiracy pun-
ishable."—Thnes report, Feb. 20.
Now, no one who read what I then uttered would think
of disconnecting these two sentences. No one with
ordinary candour or ordinary intelligence wouli read
the first sentence as containing the proposition, that an
alien may come into this country and here commit with
impunity acts for which a British-born subject would be
punishable. Bat the two propositions show plainly that
an alien nay come to this countryand plot with impunity
the commission of an act abroad which a natural born
British subject could not do. In that respect, therefore,
an alien, although standing in the position of owing
allegiance to your law, is by that law exempted from
consequences to which a natural born British sutjeet
would be liable. Now, what does the house suppose
that I was elsewhere represented to have said ou the
occasion 1 The passage that was read elsewhere was
that first qu ,ted by me. A grave and learned speaker
said, I find in the public journals the following words
attributed to the Attorney-General :
"The state of the English law I believe to be this—that
foreigners are able to do in this country that which your
own subjects are unable to do ; and that which would be
a crime in natural born British subjects is a matter of im-
punity in foreigners."
The grave and learned speaker goes on to say :
" That is not the law of England, and it is of the last
importance it should be known to the country that that is
not the law of England. There is no distinction whatever
between natural born British subjects and aliens with re-
, gard to acts committed within the realm of England."--
Mites report, Feb. 20.
Now, the other learned persons whom he was addressing
had never read the speech from which that extract was
taken. It was represented to them that I held the doc-
trine that an alien might with impunity commit Rey
crime in this country. They were aeonished at
each a proposition ; whereas it is perfectly clear if the
whole, or even another passage had been read, the pro-
position which I maintained was only this, that anterior
to the 9th of George IV., according to the common law
of the land, a British subject, committing a murder
abroad was not amenable to English law, that that state
of things was altered by the statute, but that it was se
worded within its provisions. The result, therefore, was
plain, that an alien not being comprehended within the
statute is not in the same position as a natural born Bri-
tish subject, and I argued that we ought to amend the
law in that respect. There has been, therefore, I must
say in that particular, one of the most extensive mi,ap-
prehensione and (of course unintentional) misrepresents•
them that it is impossible for any one to conceive. The
whole of the address of the grave and learned speaker
dwells simply upon the passage which he read, as com-
prehending the whole of the argument which I addressed
to this house. In the rest of his address the speaker
proceeded to represent that the doctrine of conspiracy
in this country laid down and recognised in such a
manner by all the writers on the law that it would
comprehend the act of aliens conspiring in this country
to commit a murder abroad, and, accordingly he put it
thus—that the law of conspiracy in this country com-
prehends all persons combining to do anything that is
inctlum in se. Now, the way in which I stated the law
on that subject was this—l stated to the house that
unquestionably there were some general and loose defi-
nitions of this elastic principle of our law as to conepo
racy, but that they had never been followed out by any
decision and were not illustrated by any precedent or
decided ease ; and, therefore, the words that I used were
that it was unsafe to rely upon such definitions of that
principle, and that one of the greatest judges in this
country had said that it ought not to be carried any
further than it had been earned. s I have had assistance
tendered to me from every quarter on this question.
Representations have been made to me by several of my
learned friends—by men most competent to speak on the
subject—that they have searched every book and every
decision relating to the law of conspiracy with a view of
discovering therein the doctrine laid down by the noble
and learned speaker, and havenot been able to do so. The
hon. and learned gentleman, who was imperfectly heard
at the conclusion of his speech, went on to observe, as we
understood, that the next proceeding of those grave and
learned men in another place was to advert to a sentence
pronounced by the assembled judges of England in the
case of an unfortunate man who was convicted and
hanged, and it was pointed out that that sentence
might be erroneous. He thought it unfortunate that
a learned judge should commit himself to a state-
ment which he might find most inconvenient when called
on to act in a judicial position, He had felt it his duty
to bring this matter before the house, and he believed
that great inconvenience and an enormous amount of
disorder much to be deplored would result if this prac-
tice of members in one assembly criticising individuate
in another were to tse continued. In the observations he
had made his only desire was to Fret himself right with
the house; and he trusted the house would consider un-
called for those attacks which were made from time to
time:on a member of that house, and which if persevered
in would unquestionably have an unfortunate effect on
the deliberations of both assemblies. He thanked the
house for its kind and patient attention, and he trusted
he should never again hare occasion to make such a
!statement. (Cheery.)
Mr. S. WARREN said the opinion of the hon. and
learned gentleman had became public property having
been made officially, and he (Ur. S. Warren) and others
had a right to criticise it, since it had taken al_ eest
every one who had heard or read it by surprise.
An Hon. MEMBER suggested it was not competent
for the house to discuss a proposition of law in reference
to an opinion expressed by one of its member?.
The SPEAKER ruled the hon. and learned gentleman
was in order.
Mr. S. WARREN said he was alarmed at the opinion
the hon. and learned member for Aylesbury had ex-
pressed, and was about to read an extract from the hon.
and learned gentleman's speech, which, however, was
ruled out of order, and the hon. and learned gentle.
n an (Mr. Warren) desisted, but he could not help
saying it would have been as wall if the hon. and teaseled
gentleman the member for Aylesbury had confined
himself to explaining, and not attribute to the Lord
Chief Justice that he had. garbled the extracts he had
quoted from the speech to suit his own purpose.
Mr. WHITESIDE defended the course adopted by
the Lord Chief Justice, and the opinion he had ex-
pressed on the Law of Conspiracy.
The motion for adjournment was then asreed to.
SITTINGS OF COMMITTEES.

On the motion of Sir J. GRIHIM, leave was given
53r the committee of the house to sit during the ad-
journment of the house.
THE PASSPORT SYSTEM.

Mr. MILNES gave notice that he should, on this day
fortnight, bring under the notice of the house the pre-
sent passport regulation. (Hear, hear.)
MAYNOOTH.

islr. SPOONER gave notice that shortly after the
Easter recess be should move for the introduction of
a bill for the withdrawal of the eulowinent of May-
nooth. (Loud cheery.)
EAST INDIA LOAN BILL.

After a short conversation the farther consideration
of this bill was postponed on the opposition of the hon.
in,;ml-,er for D3vonport (sir E. Perry), on the ground
that the house had had no time to discuss the principle
of the bill, and the rink involved of throwing a groat
responsibility on the finances of this country. It was
adjourned till Monday to ascertain the views of the pre-
sent Government thereon.
The other orders were disposed of, and the house ad-
journed at 6 o'clock.

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OLD COURT.
(Before Mr. Justice Wightman.)
Just before the adjournment of the Court late on Thurs-
day evening Edward James Salter, alias Holmes, de-
scribed as a sailor, was placed at the bar to receive judg-

ment.
Tke prisoner had pleaded guilty to four indictments
charging him with uttering forged 101. and fl. Bank of
England notes, and there were a great number of other
similar charges against him. The mode in which his ope-
rations were effected was of a very ingenious character,
and well calculated to throw tradesmen off their guard.
It appeared that he was in the habit of going about in a
handsome hired brougham, with a servant in livery, him-
self being very well dressed, and on many occasions assum-
ing the character of a clergyman, to the shops of trades-
men and to inns and hotels, and at the former having
purchased some teiclo of the value of 21. or 31., ho paid for
it with a forged note, and his appearance and the name
and address given by him having the effect of entirely dis-
pelling sgspicion, he succeeded in almost every instance in
Houns his change. The
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having paid his bill with antr.ged 10/. note, he started in
his brougham for town, it happened by clianc,e that
a bank clerk was in the house at the time, and he asked
to look at the note, and he at once pronounced it
to be a counterfeit. A. messenger was immediately
despatched on horseback after the prisoner, and he
came up with the brougham and found the prisoner
fast asleep inside, probably dreaming of fresh schemes of
plunder, and he was given into custody. The prisoner, as
above stated, pleaded " Guilty" to the whole of the indict-
ments preferred against him, and it appeared that he was
convicted of felony in 1812, and sentenced to be transported
for two years, and had obtained his liberty under a ticket-

of-leave.
Mr. Justice Wightman having observed upon the in
gen'ous character of the offence of which the prisoner had
been guilty, and the necessity of protecting the public
against such proceedings, sentenced him to be kept in
penal servitude for 18 years.
John Carroll, 33, a Post-office letter-carrier, who bad
pleaded Guilty to two indictments charging him with
stealing letters containing money and valuables, the pro-
perty of the Postmaster-General, was also brought up for
judgment, and sentenced to be kept in penal servitude for
eight years.
Joshua Valentine Hollingsworth, 34, was charged upon
four indictments with forging acceptances to bills of ex-
change with intent to defraud, and also with obtaining
money by false pretences.
Mr. Giffard, who appeared for the prisoner, said that he
would plead guilty to the minor charge of obtaining money
by false pretenses, and he believed that the charge of
forgery could not be supported. The prisoner had, ro
doubt, made falso representations with regard to the bills,
but the acceptances were really genuine ones.
Mr. Bodkin, who with Mr. Sleigh prosecuted on behalf
of the Bankers' Association, said that this was a case,
unhappily now too frequent, where a man carrying on busi-
ness induced men of straw to accept bills for him for a small
consideration, and then passed these bills away as genuine
trade bills, and got them discounted at the bankers as such.
The signatures, however, being genuine, although utterly
worthless, he was of opinion that the charge of forgery
could not be supported, and therefore he proposed to con-
• sent to the course suggested by his learned friend.
Mr. Justice Crompton sentenced the prisoner to 18
months' imprisonment.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.—Feb. 26.

MANSION-HOUSE.—George Macklin, a silk menu
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charged with having in his possession 12A1b. of dyed silk,
ofa the re
value living
of
at No. 5, Maps-street, Bethnal-green, was
101., which had been stolen from the pre-
fur,
mises of Mr. James Wahnesley, silk manufacturer, 12,
King-street, Cheapside.
Mr. Lewis appeared en the part of the prisoner.
J. T. Hicks, a gimp
spinner, in the service of the pri-
soner, said—On Sunday, the 2d inst., my master sent for
me to his house, and told me that he had two parcels which
he wished me to get rid of as soon as possible, and he wanted
me to take them away. I asked him where I should take
them, and he replied, " Anywhere, so long as you take
them out of nay place for a few weeks." I told him I would
not do anything of the kind, as it was Sunday. He asked
me to have a cup of tea NV ith him, and I did so. He then
asked me whether I would call soon on the following (Mon-
day) morning, and take them out of the house before any
one came upon the premises. 1 went there at 8 o'clock,
my usual time, and on the door being opened the prisoner,
who was in bed, called out, " Toro, I wish you would take
those parcels out of the house as quickly as possible." His
wife gave me a bag to put the two parcels in, and I took
them to my own house for safety. On the Thursday fol-
lowing he ordered me to take some furniture patterns out
of the house immediately, as Mr. Walmesley (the prosecu-
tor) was going to send a warrant to search the promises.
He told me that if anybody noticed me carrying them I
was to dodge thorn from one turning to another. I took
thorn to my sister's at first, and then removed them to my
own house for safety. (Laughter.) I next removed them to
the prisoner's premiaos, leaving the parcels of silk at my
own house, according to his directions. Ho said ho wished
them to remain theme till everything was dropped, as he
did not know whether the prosecutor would not send some
one to search his premises. He told me that after every-
thing was dropped he should want me to bring some one
whom I knew to him, to sell the goods to him (prisoner),
and that he would pay for thorn at the rate of Bd.
per ounce. He also said ho should want an invoice,
not in the name of the person who brought them to sell, but
in the name of some other person who lived 100 or 200
miles off, and if a dead person's name could be got at the
better, so long as that person's name was on the invoice.
After I heard all this I began to feel very uneasy, and after 1
communicating with my friends I took the two parcels of
silk to the prosecutor, who desired me to take them back
to my house, and not to give them up to anybody till ho
came there, which he shortly after did with an officer.
Mr. J. Walmesley—l am a silk and trimming manufac-
turer at 12, King-street, Cheapside. I have bought goods
of the prisoner, who has been in the habit of coming to my
warehouse. I identify the greater part of the silk produced
as my property, and believe that the remainder belongs to
me also. I have lately missed, from time to time, portions
of my stock of the quality produced. In consequence of
a communication made to me by the last witness, I yes-
terday went to the prisoner's house with a constable, who
took possession of the silk. (The furniture patterns have
not been found.)
T. Harris, metropolitan police constable, 119,H —I went
with the prosecutor and took the prisoner into custody for
having the silk in his possession. He told use it belonged
to him, and that he had an invoice of it. He afterwards
said that he had not an invoice of it. He said he wished
to have a little private conversation with tne prosecutor.
The prosecutor afterwards told me in the prisoner's pre-
sence that the prisoner had told him that ho had had the
silk from a young man in the prosecutor's employment.
The prisoner afterwards dented this, and said ho had
bought it of a man who came from Coventry, whose name
and address he did not know.
The prosecutor was recalled, and said,—When I said to
the prisoner, " That is my silk," he replied, "It is your
silk," and he asked me to make the matter up, as the dis-
grace would be so great. I asked h:m where he got it
from, and he replied, " From Tom," alluding, as I thought,
to my porter of that name.
By Mr. Lewis—I have dealt with him for many years,
and always found him perfectly honest in his dealings.
The prisoner, who said he was not guilty, was fully com-
mitted for trial, the Lord Mayor refusing to accept bail.