The Sun.
London, England, 1867-08-06 00:00:00

EXTRADITION TREATIES.

On the motion for owing into committee on the Ei-pir-
ing Laws Continuance B:11,

Dir. APO. TORRENS called the attention of the•house
to the anomalous and unsatisfactory state of our treaties
of extradition with Foreign Powers, with a view to the
establishment of a permanent and uniform system of law
for the surrender of fugitives accused of unpolitical
crime. Tho hon. gentleman referred to the case of
Lninirande, which occurred in Canada, and that
of Dubois, which occurred in Loudon, the latter of
whom was taken before Mr. Vaughan, at Bow-street, in
order that he might bo given up to the authorities in
France, who claimed him, on a charge of forgery, under
the Extradition Treaty. Ho contended that the law was
in a very unsatisfactory state, because no man ought to be
delivered up after his arrival in England, unless it was
clearly proved that the offence with which he was charged
was embraced in the provisions of the treaty in question.
Hs hoped the whole matter would be taken into con-
sideration by the Government during the recess, and
also that in place of the wretched, little, limping law
which went halting after the convention of a foreign
power, a law would be proposed which would settle for
all governments of the world what it was fitting for Eng-
land to do with those who clung to her knees for justice.
(Hoar, hear.) Ho was sure it was possible to'fix a time in
which an appeal might be heard against the decision to
send any person out of England at the demand of a
foreign power, and he thought two months was not an
unreasonable period, and in the event of the wholequestion
being raised then the Court of Queen's Bench might be
empowered to try the bona fides of the charge with a mixed
jury-- (hear, hear)—before a man was given up to a foreign
power, he having once received an asylum in England.
He was quite content to leave the question in the bands of
the Government, having every confidence in the not le
lord now at the head of foreign affairs, but ho hoped that
next session they would pass a law having a backbone of
right in it—such an act as would secure for England the
regard of the whole world.
Mr. LAYARD was of opinion that the present position
of matters was highly objectionable. He felt there ought
to be no bargaining on such a matter as giving up a person
on the demand of a foreign Government. He thought the
proper course for this country to adopt was to lay down a
certain principle upon which persons charged with certain
offences should be given up without certain terms being
conceded. lie had long been of opinion that the proper way
to deal with the matter was for a committee to be selected
from both sides of the house, and composed of gentlemen
of the highest diplomatic ability. That committee could
enquire into the whole question; they could decide for
what crimes persons charged by a foreign Government•
should be given up, and then Government might enter into
negotiations with the whole world. Extradition treaties
might be granted on the terms settled by the committee,
and no otters—(hear)—there need be no further negotia-
tions—no further appeals to Parliament. lie thought, un-
der these circumstances, the bill could be reserved for one
year on the understanding that an opportunity should bo
given, next session of discussing the whole question.
Mr. NEATE thought the speech of the hon. member for
Finsbury was ill-timed and most objectionable. Unless
England gave facilities for the extradition of accused
foreigners all diplomatic connections between England
and the civilised countries of the world would be broken
off.

Sir F. GOLDSMID hoped the bill would not be for a
longer period than one year, and that the position of por-
sons in England who had been engaged in civil conflict
with governments abroad should bo clearly settled and
defined.
Mr. WATKIN said Lamirando richly deserved the
utmost punishment. No ono sympathised with him. It
was to be hoped that such persons committing the crime
he had done should not find a safe asylum in England.
He was cashier to a bank in France he forged on, and
robbed the bank to an alarming extent, and then fled to
America, and eventually to Canada, where he was arrested
and sent back to France. He was arrested in Lower
Canada, where the law was almost in accordance with
that of France. Lamirande deserved the utmost rnish-
ment, but the point raised in his behalf was that his cap-
ture was effected by illegal means.
Mr. MILL thought the law altogether unsatisfactory,
and hoped that the Government next session would intro-
duce a measure founded on the broadest possible ground.
Lord STANLEY said it never was his intention to ask
for a renewal of the bill for more than ono year. He
thought some misapprehension existed tis to what he had
stated last year, as on that occasion ho said the state of the
law was far from satisfao ory, and that if a committee of
inquiry into the whole matter was moved for ho should not
oppose it. Lamirando's case however which had been referred
to so generally during the present discussion had no more to
do with the bill now under consideration than it had to do
with the Reform Bill. (Laughter.) He freely admitted
that the matter was in a very unsatisfactory state, but the
error had been committed by our own authorities, anted
any bill that was proposed, he thought it oug.hto be
clearly laid down that the person given upshonlud D')
as sot
tried for the offence for which ho was given the
The turn
down in the extradition treaty.
discussion had taken had not. et btehene
against the present bill, but pdt
nreeci
pt /de
of extradition as it had existed foargtahiniealeaxstt tywe:rhutendtrhede
years. Ho should have no obj
appointment such as had been su;g•icFed by the right hon.
gentlemen the member for South K
Sir G. BOWYEII allthougllt vlCOuntries ought to give
to be strong and effective
up criminals, but there ou,
conditions under which such au arrangement was carried
into effect.
The House then went into committee on the bill. The
agreed
ngto, the only amendment
whole of the clauses wereer
the continuance of the
made being that tho w ds a
bill were struck out, the operation of the measure being
limited to one year.
CONTAGIOUS DISEASES (ANIMALS) BILL.
Lord ,R. MONTAGU moved that the house go into
committee on this bill,
.the object of which was to
remove, as far as possible, the restrictions relative
to removal of cattle through Great Britain. He
contended that the restrictions imposed by the
tca.t-
tle plague had not increased the pe of m
any degree worth mentioning, but that it had increased
through some cause was certainly true, and in order that
no undue regulations might remain in operation longer
than was actually necessary, the present bill wa. s proposed.
Ur. J. A. SMITE said it was useless going
with

measures for preventing disease in cattle without some
steps were taken to remedy the cruelty that was exercised
towards cattle during transit. A case had lately occurred
in which for four days and a half some settle, moved from
one part of the country to another, had been
kept without either food or water. The great mis-
fortune, however, was that there was no power is any
department of the Government to prevent a continuance
of such a state of things. Tho Government said they
were anxious to prevent disease spreading, but stated
they wore powerless in such a case as he had mentioned;
they might go on for years passing such bills as the pre-
sent, and still be no nearer the object they had in view
than they were at the present moment. (Hear, hear.)
Sir J. JERVOISE also said a great deal:of disease was
occasioned by over driving. A case Iliad:lately occurred
in which a flock of sheep had l' en almost destroyed be-
cause the sheep had been driven for two and twenty hours,
with only two hours fur rest. No horse could stand such
treatment, and it was not surprising that diseas ) broke
out. It was very convenient to call it cattle disease.
The house then went into committee on the bill, and the
consideration of its various clauses occupied the house
until the sitting was suspended at seven o'clock.

SPOaTING INTELLIGENCE—This Day.

BRIGHTON RACES—Tins DAT.
(HY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.)
BRISTOL PLATE.
The Bristol Plato of 5) soya ; two yoar olds Gat 101 b, three
Bst 121 b, four 9st 121 b, five, six, acid aged lOst 31b. Ono
mile.
King's Cross
Redcap • • 2
Five ran.
BIENNIAL STAKES.
The Fifteenth Brighton Biennial Stakes of 10 sovs each
with 100 added, for three year olds, colts Bst 101 b, fillies
Bst 71b; the winner of a stake value 200 soya 31b extra
for every such winning up to 91b extra ; the second to
receive 50 sovs out of the stakes; ono mile: 17 subs.
Trocadero
Van Amburgh
BRIGHTON STAKES.
The Brighton Stakes of 15 sovs each, 10ft, and 5
only if declared, with 200 added. The winner of
any handicap after July 31, at 4.30 p.m. 51b extra, of any
other race 31b extra; second to receive SC sow. 1f miles
34 subs.
Knight Errant
Cheltenham .2
Mandrake
Ten ran.

ROTHSCHILD STATES.
The Rothschild Stakes of 5 sovs each, 2 ft, with 50 added,
for two year olds; colts Bst 101 b, fillies Bst 71b. Half a
mile.
Patty • 1
Northern Star
3
Eau de Vie
Eight ran.
Tho above are the only telegrams received up to the
hour of going to press.

JOHN STIRS,
25, WELLINGTON-STREET, STRAND,
Executes Commissions on all the races to any amount.

The full market odds laid.
Price list daily.

Mn. GEO. WEBB executes commissions, by letter only,
at his residence, 125, aueen's-crescent, Ilaverstock-hill,
and has lists posted daily at the City Arches ; also through
his Agent, Mr. F. Butler, near Meux's Brewery. No con-
nection with any other person using the same name.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

RIPON RACES—MosDAY.

The Great Northern Nursery Handicap Plate of 100
soya. for two year olds ; winners extra. T.Y.O. 5

furlongs.

Mr. T. Hampton's Affection, by Lifeboat--Rosed'Amour,
Bst 21b .. 1
Mr. W. Cowen ns The Gleaner, 7st 71b
Mr. J. Usborne's Jenny Mills, Gat 10lb 3

KosSUTH'S ELECTION TO THE

BUNGARMN DIET.

PESTII, Aug. 1.

Letters received here from Waitzen give the fol-
lowing account of Kossuth's election to the Hun-
garian Diet, as member for that district :-
"At five a.m. some 60 electors assembled outside
the town, and brought themselves by wine and firing
guns into the requisite state of mind for the im-
portant act. At six o'clock two bands of music
and a small body of horsemen traversed the town,
and were everywhere received with much enthusiasm
by the few persons at that hour in the streets. The
shuts and increasing noise at last rous.a.l the tardy
sleepers, and at 9 o'clock the electors met in front
of the 'Emu 11111. There might have been been
from 300 to 100 persons present, but among them
were certainly many lads of tender age, and ragged,
ill-dre.sselmen, who undoubtedly were notrrivilerstd
to vote. Very few town electors of any sort made
their appearance.

" When the crowd seemed tolerably complete,
loud cries of Elj en Kossuth' made themselves heard,
and, as no other candidate was put up, the
president of the committee asked whether the elec-
tors wont.' give in their votes or elect Kossuth by
acclamation? The later course being chosen,
Ludwig Kossuth was unanimously proclaimed
member for the district of Waitzen. Several voters
then proposed that the new member should be spe-
cially requested to accept the choice that had fallen
upon him. The letter agreed upon for this purpose
ran :
" Honoured and great Patriot,—With universal
enthusiasm, warm gratitude, and in the hope of a
more brilliant future, the district of Waitzen has
chosen the first and greatest citizen of our Father-
land as deputy, and begs him to accept his seat in
the interest of the sacred cause, and the welfare
of the country. We trust that by the fulfilment of
this request our poor fatherland may regain one of
whose great heart and magnanimous mind it has so
long been deprived. With thankful reverence we
ever remain, Scc.'
" All the electors assembled signed some 180 sig-
natures, filling the sheets. It was proposed to
forward this letter by a deputation to Kossuth, but
the electoral officials doubt whether the requisite ex-
penses of the journey to Turin could be collected.
The President declared with a sigh that there was
little prospect of so doing in Waitzen, and the
letter will therefore probably go the ordinary way
of the post.
" To see how large a proportion of the voters had
taken part in the election, inspection of the list for
the Waitzen district showed that it comprises 3,800
electors, 2,340 of whom belonged to the surround-
thtoeswne 96 to
;toupothne tponella,
vaenrd.
eo
luy 100
of
n
sincagrce
doubted in Waitzen whether Kossuth will accept
Otfhe
greatly
the seat. Should he not, and in case the Govern-
ment party persist in not putting up a candidate,
Count Alexandra Karolyi, a nominee of the Left,
will most likely come in."