The Sun.
London, England, 1867-08-05 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS—This EVENING.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at
fire o'clock.

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line 82, which substituted £l5 for £lO in the lodger
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the humbler classes.
Lord DERBY said that ho must say that he had con-
curred in the propriety of raising the amount to £l5 from
£lO. It was proposed because it was considered they
would introduce a greater number of persons of stability
by such an amendment. He would advise their lordships,
taking all the circumstances of the lodger rating into con-
sideration, that they should not put thsmsolves in anta-
gonism with the other house, but accept the amendment
of the noble earl opposite.
Lord HARDINGE said that he approved of the course
pursued by the Government, and, much as het bjected to
many of the points in the bill, still he thougthey ought
to do all they could to pass the bill this session.
Lord CAIRNS said that if he had known that it was
the opinion of the Houses of Parliament that £lO clear
rating was considered sufficient for a lodger franchise, and
he should be very willing to submit t) their decision.
The amendment of Earl Russell was then carried.
THE UNIVERSITIES.
Earl GRANVILLE said that there was a strong objec-
tion on the part of the authorities of the Universities that
undergraduates should take part in the election for the Uni-
versities of towns and boroughs. It was urged that there
might be a " tow u and gown" row, to use a vulgar expres-
sion, on the very day of the election. He trusted that
they would take the opinion of the university authorities
on the matter. He should propose that no man at the
universities who had not taken his degree should have a
vote.
Lord CAMOYS quite agreed with the remarks of Lord
Granville with regard to undergraduate members of the
universities.
Lord POWIS disapproved of the amendment to the
clause made by Lord Granville.
[LEFT SITTING.]

HOUSE OF COIIMONS—Turs EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES BILL.
Mr. NEWDEGA'PE gave notice that on Friday be
should call the attention of the house to the report and
evidence taken befo
Hre the
REF EcOßli BlLL.clesiastical Titles Committee.
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Mr. GLADSTONE asked the right hon. gentleman the
Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, ou the return of the
Reform Bill to that house, he would state thecourse the Go-
vernment meant to adopt with respect to amendments that
had been made to that measure in another place. He
asked the question so that members might be made aware
of the intention of the Government at the earliest moment.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
did not exactly uuderstand the question. They had no
official information as yet as to the amendments that had
been made to the measure. Th.) usual procedure in such
eases, he believed, was to wait for the bill being returned
to the house with amendments, to have those amendments
printed and placed in the hands of hon. members, after
which the Government would state the course they in-
tended to take with regard to the amendments. He should
follow the precedents of the house on the occasion.
Mr. GLADSTONE said he did not wish to press the
question, as he was sure, cousidering the period of the
session, the right hon. gentleman would give the earlieit
information on the point possible. The question he had
put was whether, when the bill was returned to the house,
whilst waiting for the amendments, the Government
would at once state the course which they intended to
adopt without waiting for the printing of the amendments.
It would be a great convenience to the house if the earliest
intimation was given of the course the Government in-
tended to pursue.
ATROCITIES IN CANDIA.
Mr. O'BEIRNE asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs whether his attention had been called to the state-
ment which appeared in the public newspapers that
telegrams had been scut to their Governments
by foreign consuls in Candle, he that " the
Turkish
Turks
are massacring women and children ; t
authorities are neither able to subdue the insurrection or
to put a stop to these massacres; humanity demands the
immediate suspension of hostilities or the transference of
the Christians from Greece." Aud whether he had re-
ceived any such communication from Candle; if he had,
what was its date, when did it reach his hands, a
tnd whetheor tor
he had any objection toplace it upon the able,
state its contents to the House ?
Lord STANLEY said his attention had been directed
to the mat er, and he had received a communication from
Col. Dixon that the Turkish Government, so far from being
incapable of preventing acts of atrocity did their utmost to
prevent the recurrence of such cruelties, and on the per-
petrator or perpetrators they were punished with the ut-
most rigour.
THE SOCIETY OF ENGINEERS.
Mr. HUGHES asked the Vice-President of the Board
of Trade whether it was the fact that the Board of Trade
had reported against the granting of a royal chart
if er
onof
incorporation to "the Society of Engineers; and so,
what ground had the Board of Trade so reported ?
Mr. CAVE said there was no objection to
grant a
charter of incorporation to the body mentioned, the ob-
jection was to the name, which was similar to that of the
Society of Civil Engineers.
GREEN WIC!' HOSPITAL.
On the motion for going into committee of supply,
Mr. SEELEY called the attention of the house to the
management of Greenwich Hospital, and entered at seine
length into the management of various departments, all of
which, he contended, were mismanaged ; and he also stated
that he believel gross jobbery existed throughout the
administraon of entire establishment. The hon. gen-
tleman concluded the
by moving that the cost of Greenwich
Hospital was too great, and ought to be reduced.
Mr. CORRY said he was nut responsible for the pr
entering
on the duties of ()Mee. Ile had looked fiver the the
mattmater,
and he agreed with the hon. gentlemanof
management was too great, and with a view of ascertain-
ng whether it was possible to effect a reduction
ci the cost, a committee had been appointed at
the Admiralty, which had been prosecuting a most search-
ing inquiry, but ho regretted the committee had not yet
been able to present their report. As the matter was being
thoroughly investigated, lie hoped his hon. friend would
not press his motion to a division.
(LEFT SITTING.)

SIVIMMING.

NORTH LONDON SWIMMING CLUB.

This club, although so recently established, bids fair to
become one of the most popular i London, and they on
Saturday last held the Race Open to all Amateurs, in the
pond, Lower Heath, Hampstead, the prize being a fine
silver cup. It was a 400 yards handicap, and 11 started,
viz.: —Newberry, with 10 sec. start ; Stabbach, 5 sec. ;
Whyte, 10 sec.; Culverhouse, 15 sec. ; Powell, 20 sec. ;
Hamilton, 20 see. ; Jackson, 26 sec.; C. Carling, '2 min. 50
sec.; Mingay, 50 sec.; Gardiner, 53sec.; and liodgkinson,
30 see. Mr. Caring, the secretary of the club, ha i gained
100 yards before Mingay started, and he of course rounded
the flag first, Miugay next, and Gardiner third ; it was a
fine race home (the p.ind being just 200 yards in length);
the rest of the competitors gradu illy gained ou Carling,
but could not got in front, and the latter won easily by 15
yards. Gardiner passed Miugay, and came iu secuildby
yard, Newberry being fourth. Mr. 11. Woodstock officiated
as starter and judge.

TILE END of THE SESSION.—Up to the present
time 69 public and 169 local acts of Parliament hztve bee
in
n
passed. There are a number yet to be passed, and
official circles it is stated that the prorogation will not be
accomplished before the 20th inst., and some persons go
further, and make it towards the end of the month. The
Reform 4111 cannot reach the third reading for some days,
and it will then have to be discussed in the Commons, and
probably a conference of the two houses will take place.
THE NEW JUDGE OF TIIE COURT OF ADIIIRATY.
—The registrar has issued a notice that no contested case
efor e
jtuhdeg long ng
will
hear
m abuttt e early.r
si chambersnotice
wil
be given ibcven taken
whoa before
the
and in court. The non-arrival of the letters patent con-
stituting Sir Robert Philliinore judge has caused great in-
convenience. Cases were appointed for every day last
week, and aro now deferred for some three months, and
motions in the Great Eastern and. other la
cases remain '
abeyance.