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by the Conspirators, not for the purpose of making
powder, but were made use of to fill Rockets and
other Comoustibles. Two persons were in the place
at tlee time the explosion happened, who were near-
ly suffocated; one in endeavouring to open a window
e4os the arteries of his arm and bled to death, and
the other was taken before a Magistrate nearly suf.
focated, but no infermation whatever could be de-
rived from him. That day or the day after, two
persons were discovered carrying a barrel of ball.
cartridges, which were set down at the door of a
house, but the occupiers disclaiming any knowledge
of the circumstance, and the Habeas Corpus not be-
ing then suspended, no infOrmation could be ob-
tained upon the subject. He now came to the zad
of July—Upon this subjed he must observe, that
a Letter was sent to the Secretary of State, ,but
which from accident did not reach him till a week
after the affair had happened. On the 21st General
Fox waited upon the Lord Lieutenant, who commu-
nicated to him the only new faft of which he was in
possession, which arose from the information of Mr.
Clarke, a repeetable manufafturer in Dublin, who
came to the Castle in the course of that day to state,
that from appearances amongst his workmen he h.ai
reason to believe that a 'Rising was intended. Mr.
Chalice was desired to get further information, and
it was remarkable that on the next day, Friday, he
came again, and stated t)oat his alarm was groom!.
less. Gentlemen. had argued that Goverianset
aught to have been informed of all the fads as
they were now known ; if they meant to say that
Goveioment was surprized, he denied it, as they
did all that could be done upon such an occasion.
It was then said that the information given to Go-
vernment was slighted ; this he also denied. To
prove this, he read three letters, from persons of the
names of Clarke, Aylmer, and young, contradisa-
ing the reports that they, in giving information,
bud been treated with slight or neglea by the Go.
v eminent. On the 22,1, as he had stated, Mr.
Clarke declared his apprehensions groundless, but
the next day, Saturday morning, he came again
%vial a different opinion, and it was not etc til then
that Government were informed that something was
inreeded that night. Mr. Clarke came again, and
requested that the Lord Lieutenant might be
%sok:en to. Mr. Marsden in consequence wrote,
and requested the Lord Lieutenant to come to
Town. The Lord Lieutenant and the Com-
mander in Chief cone to Town in consequence,
and Mr. Maasoaar stated to them the information
he had received. It had been said, that the Go.
vernment were surprized—he would ask whether
the Gevernment were surprized when they had this
information at two or three o'clock in the after.
noon on the z3d, and when there were 4000 men
in Garrison at Dublin. With resped to informa-
tion, it was extremely difficult to get at ; the
Lit was only known to eight persons—,Emmet
had 3,0001. in his own hands, the whole of which
lie laid out in a speculation of Rebellion, which
rendered it of course more difficult for Goverrtiment
to know much about it. A great deal had been
said about the number of arms found ; in point of
t-,fa he believed that a great number of pikes were
found, but he believed not more than 4000; and with
resped to the statement made by his Noble Friend up.
on this suljed,the information came from the man who
made the Pikes. He believed the whole number of
guns found in the Deoo'n was four muskets, twelve
blunderbusses, rather more than 3000 Pikes, and
twelve cases of pistols. He had stated what infor-
matiNn the Government were in possession of at
three o'clock in the afternoon on the 23d ; at five
o'clock a Letter was written by Mr, Marsden to
Colonel Manby (which he read), desiring him to
take additional precautions for the security of the
Artillery and Ordnance Deatat at the Pigeon House.
It was evident therefore, he, contended, that the
Governimtnt were not surprized. His Noble Ftiend
had alluded to the Garrison of Dublin, which eel).
sisted of four thousaml men, and which, for such
a City as Dublin, might certainly be consider-
ed a superabundant force. A great deal had
been said about the Sepeeintendapt Magistrate and
the Lord Mayor. The former was informed of
what was. expeded early in the day, and there
was a Letter foam the High Constable, who was
also a Magistrate and Assistant to Mr. Alder.
man Alexander (which he read) directing the Peace
Officers to assemble, as a riot was expected in the
evening. In the Letter to Colonel Manby ire was
desired to take precautions without exciting alarm.
Upon this snlaied much had been said ; but ha
should like to know why precautions could nut be
taken Withoot exciting alarm. The passage in
one of the Letters, which had been more par.
ticul,4rly alluded to, related to the stoppage of
the Mail Coaches ; and he would ask whether
it would have been prudent or politic to give
a general alarm throughout the Country by the
stoppage of the Mail Coaches, or any such coca.
-sure ? A great deal had likewise been said about
the postscript of a lettei from the Lord Lieutenant,
stating, that he supposed' the Commander in Chief
had additional information. The Hon. Baronet (Sir
J. WROTTESLEY) had only read the postscript,
which put him in mind of reading the letter itself:
Col. A yam R having given information to the Lord
Lieutenant of an intended attack upon the Lalge
in the Phenix Park, tie Lord Lieutenant wrote to
General Fox acquainting him with the information
lie hid received. After the Lord Lieutenant had
finished the letter there
,carne a reinforcement of
thirty Met' to the guard in the Phoenix Park, which
induced the Lard Lieutenant to ad.l a postscript,
asking whether in conseq:i.nce of the. reinfoteement
being' sent, General Fox :lad received any fresh in_
telligence, conceiving that General Fox Might have
received from *other quarters information relative to
an intended attack upon the Lord Lieutenantts re-
aidence in the Plimnix Pask.,He had no desire to
enter into any general discussion of the question; so
far as his ruble Relatioo was concerned he invited
investigation. He' had merely confined himself to
a statement of fads.
Mr. CANNING explained.
Mr. FOX said, before he entered into a discus_
sioni of the present Question, he wished to say a few
words as to the 'situation in which the Right
Honouranle Gentleman stood with rcsped to the
Lord Lieutenant, and with respect to the rela-
tive situation in which he (Mr. Fox) stood with
another per Son who held a situation in the Irish
Government. The Right Hon. Gentleman had . „

83k1 that he would not oppose the Motion, and
no doubt in that respen consulted his Parliamentary
duty, hut he (Mr. Fox) went further, and said that
he would vote for the Motion, in doing which he
laid claim to the title of a better brother. There
was one circumstance hc, had to eomplairoof, and of
which he ban often complained, he meant the read.
ing of garbled extraEtsfrom letters, all which would
necessarily come before a Committee which would
have power to send for persons and papers. He
was convinced that in the letters which had issued
from the Castle upon the subject, there would be
found a continual caetion against giving unneces-
.sary alarm, and that the Right Honourable
Gentleman knew that individually to be the fatt,
although he might not know it as a Member
of Parliament. It had been said that two no-
tices of Motion upon this subjeCt had been
given by an Hon. Relation of his (Admiral BERKE-
LEY), but that Hon. Relation had withdrawn his
notice, in consequence of an explanation given by,
the Right Hon. Gentleman, e hich certainly cught
to be con,idered as satisfaCtory. He would ask,
hoNever, whether, when they-imputed blame to
General Vox, alley did not also impute blame to
Lerd He eewICKE ? The ceolness which took place
bet ween Lard Hentwicke aad General Fox did not
arise. previeus to the eel of July, nor until some
d iys afterwards, It was then, when they perceived
the impressien reade upon all England by the condua
of the Irish Government, that the Lord Lieute.
nant eielea vowed to shift the blame off his own
shoulders to those of -General Fox. It had been
said that the latter had not been recalled, but
had resigned ; the letter, however, to General
Fox expressly stated, that in consequence of
the wish expressed for his recall by the Lord
Lieutenant, he thought it necessary to resign. He
then referred to a paragraph in the Dublin Journal
of the loth of February, refleaing upon his Bro-
ther, and asked whether any thing was inserted in
that Paper disagreeable to Government ? He con-
sidered, in his owe mind, that an inquiry ought
undoubtedly to be granted, in order that they might
have complete proof as to the conduit of the Irish
Government. There were many points of the No-
ble Lord's defence which were completely untenable.
It had, been asked, why nut suffer an Irish Member
to propose an inquiry ? He remembered that it
was an argument used against the Union, that
out -of the too Members for Ireland, there never
would be fiend one who would- attempt to oppose
the Ministry. It had been said that what had
been stated by his Hun. Friend, General TARLE-
TON, was mere hearsay : if they refused to go into
a Committee what evidence had they but hearsay ?
With respect to serpriza, it did not fellow because
the Irish Government was surprized, that therefore
it was criminal ; toe ablest Generals might be sur-
prized, but when the Noble Lord said the Gavern.
went were not surprized, all his arguments tended to
spew that they Were surprized. It had been said
that the Irish Government had information upon
the subjea at three o'clock, on the 23t1, but it had
net been shewn that they edere not eventually sur-
prized. He contended that there was priar4 facie
evidence suffieient to call for inquiry into the con.
dust of the Irish Government. As to what had been
said respeCting the precautions taken, it rested
upon the principle that the Lord Lieutenant had
made communications to the Commander in Chief,
The Right Hon. Gentleman had said that General
Fox came to town late on the et st, when the Lord
Lieutenant said he had nothing new to communicate,
but requested him to call on Saturday ; this had
been explained by stating that the Lord Lieutenant
had mentioned the inforum!ion in his letter, and
had then nothing more to cotnetunicate. Then it
had been said that the Lent Lieutenant received a
letter from Mr. Marsden, in consequence of which
he came to town with the Contrntr,der in Chief, but
the fallacy here was, that Gen. Fox was supposed to
have the same intelligence as the Lord Lieutenant.
It was however ti be remembered, that the Lord
Lieutenant had been in Ireland two years with
6o,00tel• a year to expend in secret- service
money, whilst General Fox had been only there
two months, and a' part of that upon a Tour.
What was General F,,x to do ? He could only take.
the intelligence in the sense given to it by the
Lord Lieutenant—aed when he cbserved that the
latter called no Privy Council, nor sent any notice
to the Lord Chancellor, and left the Castle for the
Phcznie Park, what was General Fox to think but
that the Lord Lieutenant, ateengst many false
alarm., considered this as one. If an approaching
insurreCtion was feared, he wished to know why
His Excellency the Lnd" Lieutenant went to
the Phoenix Park when he was then: more more ex-
posed to danger, whilst his presence at the Castle
would leave given energy, and spirited on the
Loyalists ? He hop-. be should not hear of
the Courage and Magnanimity of the Lord
Lieutenant in going to the Phmnix Park, where
he was exposed to greater danger without being of
any utility, instead of remaining at the Castle,
where be would have been in no danger from the
number of Guards surrounding him, and where his
presence would have been of essential use. The
Lord Lieutenant, however, goes to the Phoenix
Park, the Commander in Chief. to Kiltnainham, the
Lord Mayor goes to his Villa, and Alderman Alex_
,antler, the Superintending Magistrate, to his villa.
It was ridiculous to suepose, that any of those per_
sons could have ;my idea of impending insurrettion.
Then came a triumphant statement el the instruc-
tions given to the Coo,tablei to suppress the inStlr-
realoll. It had been said that the Lord Lieutenant
had previously sugge red to this Government, the
propriety of suspending the Habeas Corpus, This,
however, came in somewhat aukwardly with what
had been said, that they waited for strong grounds
in order to establi,h strong measures ; but how
much biocd.hed aright hive been prevented by
preventive measeres in time It had been said 1.
that a garrison of four thousand men was suf.
ficient fur the proteetion of DUblin, and so he
thought, but not unless they were properly distri-
buted ; with this the Commander in Chief had no-
thing
to do, as they ought to have been dispersed
in different places, to be ready at the call of the
civil Magistrates. It had been said that the Insur-
reetion was contemptible, and yet strong meas.utes
had been called throno only this, but strong measie-cs
had been previously suggested as proper by the
Government, in Consequence of thc state of the

Country ; and yet at that very time Ministers said
thin Ireland was in a state of profound tranquil.
lily, and this too at a time when, according to the
opinion of Lord Redesdale, the Conspiracy ex-
tended all over the Country. With respeet to the
Letters of that Noble • Lord, they had been told
by an Hon. Gentleman (Mr. DAwsoN) that it was
indiscreet to discuss them. It was certainly some
triumph to the Iriabliano. nohat an English Chan-
cellor had written LeFfies upon such a subject ; the
only indiscretion equal to which would be that of
discussing them. • He again complained of garbled
extraas Irom Letters being-read by the Right Hon.
Gentleman, Mr.:Secretary Your.
Mr. Secretary Yoaits said, across the Table,
that Mr. Fox might see them. •
Mr. FOX said the House ought to see them. An
Inquiry of this nature, was not, he said, necessary
tip be instituted by an Irish Member, as he was as
much a Member for any County or City in Ireland
as for Westminster. He concluded by pressing the
Inquiry, for which he contended there were prima
facie grounds arising out of the circumstances at-
tending the late Insurreetion.
[The extreme lateness of the hour at which the House
adjourned, precludes us from stating little snore than the
names of the subsequent Speakers.]
Lord C AST LERE n c n spoke in explanation.
Mr. DALLAS, at some length, argued against the Motion.
Dr. LAWRENCE combated the arguments of the Learned
Gentleman, considerably in detail.
The ATTORNEY GEN-ER A L spoke against the Motion.
Lord DE I 3 L A out ERE, in a very neat and pointed Speateli,
supported the Motion. •
Mr. kViNDH AM supported the Motion, and manifested
his accustomed talent, in a Speech of considerable length.
Mr. Ti ERNEy opposed the Motion.
Mr. Fox, in a short explanation, alluded to the Paragraph
respecting the Business, which appeared in one of the Dublin
Prints ; which, he said stamped the charader of the Pay-
masters of that Paper.
Mr. G Rai spoke at some length, and warmly urged the
Inquiry. In the course of his Speech, he strongly animad-
verted upon the consistency of his Right Hon. friend (Mr.
TIERNEY), as manifested by his Speech that night, and al-
luded to his idea of the degree of decorum which Gentlemen
should observe in changing their opinions. He was very se-
vere upon his Right Hon. Friend's idea, that the affair of the
23d of July, with the exception of the murder of Lord Kil-
warden, was no more than a paltry tumult and riot, and had
produced no important consequence. Did he esteem the
death of a Field Officer, and the loss of near forty lives, be.
sides suspending the Habeas Corpus At, and subjecting
Ireland to Martial Law, Nothing ?
Mr. Ti ER NEY explained, that his meaning was, that with
the exception of Lord Kilwarden's death, the affair did
not appear to him to be of sufficient magnitude for an object
of Parliamentary Inquiry.
Mr. WI 7euftwi.l spoke in explanation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, Ina Speech of
some length, oppesed the Motion. He vindicated the con-
duit of die Government of Ire;and, civil and military, in
the affair in question ; against whom he insisted no imputa-
tion whatever of negiett or delinquency could fairly be laid.
Adverting to the recent parliamentary conduit of a Right
Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. ‘ViNnunia), he said, he
appeared to relapse with uncommon rapidity into his former
Intuits and mode of aeting, and to lose sight of those princi-
ples whicli had governed his conduit for the last ten years.
General TnELErroN and the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
c HEQU ER reciprocally explained, in the courseof which the
former insisted that lie had brought forward strong and ma-
terial facts, to spew the necessity of the Inquiry, and that
he could have adduced many more, were he so illaWd •
Mr. C ALca we e spoke with considerable ability in support
of the Motion.

Colonel Hu rcnlNsoti, after requesting the Motion to be
read, said, that as tar as it respeCted the conduct of Lord
HA R W e, throughout the whole of his Administration,
it should have his decided negative, but if the inquiry were
in regard of the insult given to a gallant General, it should
have his support; or were the inquiry with respect to the
general condutt of Ministers in regard to Ireland, it should
have his hearty approation. He took occasion to mention
certain Letters written by a person in an important Office in
Ireland, which, lie said, were a cruel in,ult upon the
People oc Ireland, and upon sortie of His Majesty's loyal
Subjects.

Sir 'OUST IVROTTILSLEy spoke at some length in reply,
and successfully vindicated his own motives in coining for-
ward on the present occasion.
Tire ATTORNIty-OENERAL spoke shortly in explanation.
The Question, which was loudly called for. several times
in the latter part of the Debate, was then put, when a Divi-
sion took place :
for the Motion • • 8z
Against it , - • 178

Majority - 96
At HALF PAST Foug O'CLOCK the House adjourned to
the usual Hour this day.

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LAST night a very interesting Debate took place
in the House of Commons, on the Motion of Sir
JOHN WROTTESI,EY, on the suhjet of the Insur,
reftion in Dublin on the 23d of July last. Neither
Mr. PITT nor. Mr. SHERIPAN Were present. At
hill past four a division took place, when the Mi.
ouster, out of z6o present, had a Majority of 96.

THE Embargo which we mervioned yesterday as
hiving been laid on the Port of London, extends to all
the Out ports, except upon the Convoysbound down
Channel. Various causes have been assigned for this
measure, but the real one remains a secret with Go.
vernment, It is said to be, to prevent the Enemy
from having intimation of some design which is on
foot. Whatever the design may be, there is ter.
tainly no appearance of its being of very great mag.
nitude. According to the belief of some,. it is in.
tended to sinliz some -old Dutch Vessels in the mouth
'of 13uulogne IlarboUr. We shall be happy to see
• . •
any thing attempted in that quarter. According to
the conjecture of othersi :some change may be me.
ditated at home, 'may be important, to
prevent the Enemy; knowing till all the arrange.
ments are completed. The Embargo it nut ex.
peEted t 9 last above ten days.