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on board. The harbour of Cork was the great western har-
bour of the United Kingdom.
Mr. FITZROY said that he must remind the hon. member
that he was speaking to a vote which had already passed.
Sir C. WOOD said he would strongly recommend the right
lion. gentleman the First Lord of the Admi alty. to go to Cork
Harbour, which was one 'of the most beautiful in the world.
Ile wished to explain the grounds of the restriction in the
charitable contributions of the Admiralty complained of by
his hon. friend behind him (Mr. Fagan). There had been
such a number of demands made on the sum in question from
places which had ostensibly a right to apply, that it was
thought best to confine' the contributions to places where
there were actually naval stations.

Sir J. PARINGTON said the explanation of the right hon.
gentleman did n.t tally with the statement of the hon. mem-
ber for Cork, who said that a considerable part of the sum
in question was unappropriated. Ho cas not acquainted with
the condition of the fund, and he did not know whether
the arrangement mentioned by the right hon. gentleman was
not a judicious one, but he would take care to inform himself
on the subject, and if he found any injustice existing he
would endeavour to remedy it.
The vote was then agreed to.
On the next vote, 691,1481., for the half-pay, reserved
half-pay, and retirement, to officers of the Navy and Royal
Marines,

Sir G. PECHELL, after some eulogistic observations on the
manner in which the First L rd of the Admit alty ha 1 com •
menced the performance of the duties of his office, expressed
his gratification at the right hon. gentleman's having taken
m,asures to inquire into the case of a very deserving class of
men, the worn-out officers of Greenwich Hospital, and for
having given them their half-pay, of which they had been
for so many years deprived. This step had given so much
satisfa:_rtion that he hoped the right hon. gentleman would
give their half-pay to others on the list who were in the same
position. He hoped also that in the distribution of his patron-
age the right hon. gentleman would not confine it to a small
clique and to particular families. It was a subject of remark
that out of the small number of rear-admirals now employed
two of them bore the same name, and were connected with
each other.

Admiral DUNCOMBE said the hon. and gallant gentleman
had alluded to two gallant friends of his who were now em-
ployed ; and he would venture to tell the hon. and gallant
gentleman that, thoughthe number of rear-admirals employed
was so limited, and unfortunately two of them bore the same
name, thy were among the most scientific and able officers
in the service, and when he stated that they bore the name
of Grey it would be a proof that they were not officers who
had thrown away their time. They devoted their whole time
to the service, and no more energetic or scientific officers
were to be found.

Admiral WALCOIT said that the amount of the estimate
for the half-pay appearal heavy. But it should be recol-
lected that in the war which closed in 1815 the country was
obliged to keep up an enormous navy and large fleets, which
led to the employment of a large number of officers, many of
whom we were now in receipt of half-pay. He would say far
them that in their enforced ret remeut they were grateful to
their country for that reward which had been afforded to
them. It was a debt of honour due from the nation for ser-
vices done by the officers who received it. The list of these
officers, however, was rapidly diminishing, and would soon
close.

Mr. W. WILLIAMS drew attention to the extraordinary
system of promotion to the rank of admiral. In 1840 there
were only 143, and now they numbered 349. The committee
ought to express its disapi robation of this reckless system of
promotion. When in 1846 200 old captains were placed on
th . list of retired admirals, it was understood that the num- .
her of admirals would gradually be decreased ; but instead of
that it had gradually increased. There had, within a very
short time, been recently added to the list no less than 29 ad- '
mirals. He believed that there was about an admiral and a
half to every vessel in the navy.
Mr. CORRY said that what the hon. gentleman called reck-
less promotion since 1846 had been productive of more good
to the service than anything that had ever been done. There
were 343 admirals on the list, but they were not meant to be
for active service. There were only 100 on the active service
list ; and the retired list was introduced for the purpose of
obtaining younger men in the rank of admiral. The effect of
the plan was that a eagtain might now get his flag at the age
of 48 instead of 78. "The whole cost attendant on obtaining
such an advantage was 22,0001., and the whole expense of
the half-pay list in the last ten years had been diminished by
38,0001.

After some further conversation,
Sir C. NAPIER complained that the reduced list of ad-
mirals had exceeded the prescribed number of 350. He ob-
jected to their limiting the admirals to certain families. If
five rear-admi,als were required, two ought not to belong to
one family. (Hear, hear.) He wanted to see a little more fair
play in the appointment of officers. When a new first lord
came into office he always professed to look at merit; but
they all knew that that was all humbug. (Laughter.) A
gallant admiral opposite, and there was no more efficient
officer, bad almost gone on his knees to the board for em-
ployment—(Admiral Walcott : I did)—but it was of no use;
ho had no Parliamentary influence. (Hear, hear.)
After a few words from Admiral Duncomn,
Sir C. WOOD said that if they would insist on having -
young and efficient admirals, they must provide for the old
and infirm ones. Complaint was made that the list of cap-
tains was too large. A few yeas ago, it was determined that •
it should be reduced to 350 • it had not yet be n brought to
that number, butit now stood at 356. The right hon. baronet
then referred to some appointments which he had made, in'
eluding Sir G. Seymour, Admiral F. Grey, and Sir Michael
Seymour, and contended that they were most efficient officer's.
He read a letter from Lord L, ons to Admiral Grey, bearing
testimony to his efficiency.
Sir C. NAPIER said he had not questioned the appoint.
mentiof Sir M. Seymour. Ho referred to the two Admirals
Grey ; he did not believe that they would have been ap-
pointed but for the fact that they were brothers-in-law to
the late First Lord. (A laugh.)
Sir F. BARING defended the existing number of ad•
The vote was then agreed to.
280,0611., for milit iry pensions and allowances.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS objected to some of the items. Ile,
did not find a single comm9n sailor in the list, and considered
that gross partiality had been shown.
Agreed to.
9,481/. for civil pensions and allowances.
1501., conveyance of troops.
Agreed to.
ARMY ESTIMATES.
On the first vote being proposed under this head, 21,5371•
for the Secretary of State for War and the Commander-in• •
Chief,
Mr. WILLIAMS moved to report progress.
General PEEL said this vote was a reduction on AV
amount of last year, and hoped that it would be agreed to.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said he should press his motion.
The committee divided
For reporting progress
Against 163-121
The vote was not pressed, and the Chairman reported
progress.

- EXCHEQUER BILLS (20,911,5000 BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA (No. 2) BILL.
The order of the day for the second reading of this bill NvOg
discharged.
CHELSEA HOSPITAL AND WATERWORKS EXCHANGE

OF LANDS BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
CHURCH RATES ABOLITION BILL.
The committee on this bill was postponed till Monday.
FR INCHISE PRISONS.

Mr. HARDY brought in a bill to abolish franchise prison•
JURA REGALIA OF DURHAM.
Mr. HAMILTON brought in a bill to amend the provisiong
of an act of the 6th year of King William IV., for separating
the palatine jurisdiction of the County Palatine of Durban'
from the Bishopric of Durham.

CONTRACTS (PUBLIC DEPARTMENTS).
On the motion of Col. BOLDERO, the select committee on
contracts was ordered to consist of 17 members, and Mr*
Roebuck and Col. Knox were added to the committee.
The house then adjourned, at 2J minutes past 12 o'clock.

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