The Sun.
London, England, 1804-06-27 00:00:00

JOHN IRVING, ESQ. ACiiIN EXAMINED.

Are' you acquainted with the present state of the
provision trade of Ireland, in the several branches
of beef, pork, bacon, and butter ?—The House in
which I am concerned, in the course of itsgeneral
intercourse with Ireland, do at times receive con-
signments of all those commodities; and at present,
the prices of all those commodities areslower than
for several years past.
From what causes ?—I have already,stated, that
the diminished consumption arises, in my opinion,
from the principal part of the Navy being on home
stations, no great employment of transports, and
that the Navy is fed more than heretofore on fresh
provisions. I conceive the diminution in price of
those different commodities has:arisen in part from
the cause. I have assigned'; and. in part from the
trade being in 'the ha.nds•of a few houses, who have
contrafled for the supply of Government, who have
the controul of the market, and therefore regulate
the price. . .

Can you state what the:contra& prices are, and
what prices are now offered by the contraCtors for
the purchase of those articles ?—I can in only one
of these articles, pork, which I understand is con-
traaed to be: dciivcrid to the Vinualling Board at
about 51. 7s..British per barrel ; the price at pre-
sent in the market I Understand to be from three
guineas to 31. los'. the barrel.

Do you conceive such a period of depression in
one of the largest branches of export trade of Ire-
land, a proper period for limiting discounts within
narrower bound, by which alone a reduction in the
issue of Bank Paper can be efleded ?—I should think
not.

Do'you not think that the pecuniary transanions
of London with Liverpool are as large, or larger,
than those of London with Edinburgh ?—I do not
know the fa 't.
. Is not the exchange between Liverpool and LOn.
don regulated and .kept at the Same rate, without
the intervention of any Corporate Banks ?•—The
circulation of Liverpool I understand to be in the
whole, or in a great degree, by bills on. London;
and the whole exchange, which I know of between
Liverpool and London consists of the bankers' coin,
mission, at, I belieVe, a per cent.
Do you not think that the separation of Ireland
from Great Britain by the sea, and the consequent
irregularity of communication, a material obstacle
to the fixing of an invariable exchange between
Dtablin and London ?—No; because it seldom hap.
pens that the variation of posts exceeds many days.
Should any powerful corporation obtain a controul
over the exchange between London and Hamburgh,
do you 'think such an innovation in the trade would.
be useful ?—I do not think that the cases 'are paral.
lel ; Ireland, being part of the Empire, is under the
controul of the Legislature, as much as any other
part of tho Empire : It is eligible for the Legisla-
ture to frame laws and regulations for the Govern-
ment of Ireland in ita various departmenti; it can
have no controul over Hamburgh.
Do you think, that, because England and Ireland
are under the same Government, that the interven.
tion of any great and opulent Corporation between
the buyers and sellers in the provision .trade would
be useful ?--No; But I conceive there is a great
distinction between an article of merchandize, and
that which is merely the representative of met--
chandize.
Do you not think that the exchange is fixed by
the competition of the buyers and sellers of hills ?
Yes-, I have already stated that to be my opinion.
Would it not be oecessaryt, towards the accom.
plishment of your.plans, for the Bank of Ireland to
procure an additional and permanent capital, in-Or.
der to provide .the necessary funds in London ,?—I
am not sufficiently acquainted with the calls which
are made upon the Bank of Ireland for the employ-
ment of its capital, to judge distionly on that 'point ;
but if such a plan were -to require a new source of
supply 'of capital, I should think certainly Oat it
would be necessary for the Bank of Ireland to ex-
tend its capital in proportion to 'that increased de.
mand.
. Woufd the prospect of advantage to the Bank of
Island, by your plans, be likely to give a fair com-
pensation for such increased capital ?—I have al..
ready stated, that the advantages to be derived from
such plan would be a compensation for any ex.
pence that would be thereby created, and a cornpen_
cation for any additional trouble that might result ;
I mean, by the Bank of Ireland opening to .itself a
new source of profit, by dealing ,in bills. of :ex-
change, an.l by the premium which would arise in
the inteschange" of the Batik paper of Irelandfor
the. Bank paper of England.
In explanation of the last answer of yesterday,
irate what is the amount of the capital to be trans.
milted to this Country by the Bank of Ireland;
what is the mode by which it would be now trans-
mOtted ; at what expense to 'the Bank ; and, lastly,
what is the nature of the operations- to be carried
on, and coutinued, in order to ensure at all times
an invariable rate of exchange ?—The extent Of ca.,
pital which would be -required I am not possessed
of sufficient information to give any opinion upon;
the nature of operation by which such capital is to
be transmitted I have already described ; the ex_
pence which would attend its transmission would de.
pond upon the rate' at which remittances, such as I
have described, could be procured.
Latter part of' the question repeated ?—ln the
answer which I have given, I have assumetl, that
the- plan proposed would regulate the exchange, and
that the fund, placed in London, would obtain its
supply from the Bunk of Ireland,' always being pur.
chasers of stith Bills of exchange as might offer,
and by the supply which might be Obtained from the
expenditure in Ireland, for the general purposes of
the Empire.

Supposing the balance of payments t'',he against
Irehtud, what..would be. the result higher ex-
, change but teonceive that might be regulated by
the command which the Bank or Ireland,' from its
extended powers, would give it.
Can you give aluder answer.to the question put,,
or, in' other words, 'supposing the credits of Ireland
on this. Country,. including those of the Bank of
Ireland, to beethausted by the balance of payments
being against Ireland, does not that case involve a
failure of the plan you propose ?—No, the plan
which I have proposed.goes to the regulation of the
exchange between England and Ireland; but it ,can-
not be the means of paying, or materially reducing,
or making any:balance of payments which may be
due by England to Ireland.
Does not the balance of, payments regulate the
exchange between tlie.two Countries ?—I have al-
ready stated, that, from the balance of payments
arise the exChange between -the two obi; wries ; but
I continue of opinion, that that exchange may be
regulated, and that it would be regulated by the;
plans which I have'proposed.

(To be continued.)

At the commencement of the Scrutiny of :the
Middlesex Election, Mr. MAINWARINC objettCd,
to ISO° votes, of which -1266 were found bad,
leaving Sir FRANCIS BURDETT about 903 behind.
Sir FRANCIS objetled to 2300, of which about 660
have been foand bad ; there .are • yet- beti,;,een t z
and 1300 votes to try, notwith,tanding the Court
has sat several months. Each of the 'Counsel has
ten guineas a_day.
Upwards of fifty warrants have been issued since
Monday last, for the apprehension of the conspirators
in the hocit trade. Two men, Seddon 'and
were on Saturday commirtid to Bridewell for one
month, they having been Menibers of the CothMi
tee of Workmen, in the shop of Messrs. • Tay for
and Co.' David street, Berkeley-Square.
On. Saturday churning, as one of the Bath coaefies
was corning through Brentford, one the braces of the
carriage gave way, by' which accident 'two women
and a man, outside passengers, were -thrown from
the roof, and received very material injury. .
. The folhiwing story appears in the Sunday Papers :
On Monday evening about eight o'clock, asa young
man belonging to WooliviCh Watien, was walking in
Hanging Wood, he was laid hold of behind, by
two persons, who laid him flat- on his face on 'the
earth, when they first' bandaged his face, they
turned him on his back and gagged him.; all this
while he saw them not—one laid himself on his
breast, while the other,. with surgical operatiOn,
castrated the unfortunate man, and atter,,vards.cinsed
the wound, by sewing up the same wiilt glazed
silk ; after which, they 'took off his bandal...;e and
ungagged him, but done in such a way that he could
not have a front view of them during this tragedy,
but ran away, and reColleas their hiving real
clothes on. By his mournful cries people came to
his relief, who took hitn to town ; when all the Sar.„
goons of the Garrison attended him: on Thursday he
was in a precarious state,
.and it is said he is dead,
It is a mystery what could give rise to this bar-
barous act, as the young man is of a moral gootlcha.
Wier.

'A New York
Paper says—"Capt.4-lodge arrived
-at Newbury port, from Cape Francois, states :-'--.
That the French People at the Cape ate in the most
distressing situation, expeding every moment a ge.
neral massacre, as it was known that CHRISTOPHE
had received 'Ostlers from General DESSAL lI4ES to
that purpose. 'None of them are suffered to leave
the Island, and the American Vessels are Siridly
searched both before sailing, anal by the barges out.
side. A Danish Schooner, Which sailed from the
Cape for St. Thomas, was overhauled by a brigand
barge, and French Passengers being found on board,
she was immediately carried into a small port to
leeward of the Cape, and the Captain, crew, and
every soul onboard were shot. The Schooner was brought to the Cape. The White's are
daily' missing, supposed to be secretly murdered,
and their property immediately confiscated and sold
,by auEtion. No age or sex is spared from the outrage
and inhumanity of the Blacks, who boast of their,
Mild treatment, when compared with the'cruelties
which they have suffered from Frenchmen." . I
The New York Papers are filled-with complaints
of depredations 'committed by the French Crui4ers
on the American commerce in the West Indies.
The Port of Charleston had for some time been
blockaded by two French Privateers, which cap.
curet all vessels suspeded of having English pro.
Refry on board.

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