The Sun.
London, England, 1867-08-10 00:00:00

TWO O'CLOCK.
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF COMMONS—TiIIs DAY.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock.

SUPPLY.

Mr. DODSON brought up the report of the committee
of supply.
THE STATUE OF MR. CANNING.

Mr. HOPE drew the attention of the house to the rumour
that was now becoming general, to the effect that the
statue of Mr. Canning was again to be removed from the
position it now occupied to the centre of Parliament-square.
tie contended that the present site was most appropri tte, and
if the rumour was truo and the statue was again removed,
the effect would be most prejudicial. The statue would
stand without a background, a circumstance that would
actually detract from its general effect. Ho contended
that the present position was a most dignified ono, and
that it was not the back slum that many persons had
called it. If it was again altered all perspective would be
removed, and the attempt to carry out town gardening in
Parliament-square would be altogether destroyed. The
central alley of statues, the inviting seats for passers by, and
the effect of fountains it was proposed to carry into execu-
tion in Parliament-square would all be spoiled if the statue
was removed. He therefore hoped nothing would be done
before Parliament met that would interfere with the ca rry
ing out of the proposed improvements in the neighbour-
hood of the Houses of Parliament.

Col. WILSON-PATTEN said ho did not think any
desire existed on the part of the relatives and friends of
the late Mr. Canning, especially as Lord Canning had no
objection to the removal of the statue of his father.
Lord ELCIIO thought the effect of the statue would bo
much better if it was removed from the site it at present
occupied. With respect to the statue being placed at the
end of the vista at Parliament-square, he did not know
whether it was generally known, it was now quite out of
the square by at least 15 to 18 feet. With respect to the
proposed gardens the effort that had been made in Trafal-
gar-square did not impress him very favourably as regarded
that proposal. He was of opinion that the removal of the
statue would be a decided improvement.
Sir C.l O'LOGLEN thought whilst they were engaged
in considering the improvements to be made in the vicinity
of the Houses of Parliament, the removal of St. Margaret's
church might receive consideration. If that was allowed
to remain all endeavours at improvement would be useless.
Mr. LOCKE said he was one of those who thought the
effect of the statue was very much improved by the re-
moval to its present site.
Mr. HENLEY thought it hardly fair that at a 12 o'clock
sitting on Saturday the house should be called upon to give
what he called a Parliamentary opinion upon such a
matter. (Hear, hear.) They had come down under the
impression that only imperative business would be trans-
acted, and then the present subject was brought forward.
He thought that in its original position 100 persons saw
the statue for every one looked upon it now. (Hear, hear.)
Lord J. MANNERS said, with respect to the removal
of the statue two things had to be considered, taste and
sentiment. As a matter of taste he thought the statue
would not be improved by another removal. He was aware
that a different opinion was entertained in the House o
Lords to the almost general opinion of that House with
respect to the position of the statuo, and he hoped that
nothing would bo done that would lead to the two Houses
being brought into serious opposition in the matter. With
respect to the removal of St. Margaret's Church, ho must
say that the original intentions of the Government re-
mained unchanged. 110 would take cars that nothing was
done during the recess which would prejudice the fina
determination as to the removal of the statue, or interfere
with the original intentions with respect to the improve-
ment of the neighbourhood.

The subject then droppsd, and the report of the com.
mittoe of supply was agreed to.

FORTIFICATIONS (EXPENSES) BILL.
On the motion for the third reading of this bill,
Lord EWE 0 thought. that before everything was se.

tied with respect to these fortifications an effective experi-
ment should be made. Ho therefore suggested that one
embrasure of the Devonport breakwater should be con-
structed, and submitted to six shots from Colonel Palliser's
9-inch cold projectile gun, and six shots from that officer's
600-pound rifle gun, at 200 yards' range, in order to test
the efficiency of the plan it was proposed to carry into
effect.

Mr. LOCKE also thought it highly desirable that the
experiments suggested by the noble lord should be tried
before the whole thing was completed.
The bill was read a third time and passed.
AGRICULTURAL GANGS BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
NAVAL KNIGHTS OF WINDSOR BILL.
The house wont into committee on this bill.
Sir C. O'LOUGHLIN moved the insertion of tho follow-
ing now clause :—" After the passing of this Act it shall
not be obligatory on any naval knight of Windsor, not
being a member of the Established Church of England and
Ireland, to attend Divine service in Saint George's Chapel,
daily or at all."
Cal. NOTT suggested that the matter should be loft to
the direction of her Majesty.
The clause was ultimately withdrawn, and the bill passed
through committee, and was reported without amend-
ments.

THE CONSOLIDATED FUND (APPROPRIATION;

BILL.

This bill was brought in by Mr. lItJNT, and road a first
time.

The house then adjourned.

THE CLOSE OF TIIE SESSION.

Yesterday evening at five o'clock the Commons
decision on the Lords' amendments were taken by
the appointed members of the Lower House to the
Lords. The reasons for disagreement with the
amendments of the Upper House which had been
refused were also handed in. These had been ar-
ranged in the morning by the committee appointed
by the House. The Lords will take those rea-
sons into consideration on Monday ; after which,
if they should disagree with them, they will
be returned to the Commons, and a conference will
follow. It is, however, believed that the
Peers will accept the reasons. These steps
necessitating delay, and the vote in supply leading
to more discussion than was expected, it is now
supposed that Parliament will not separate before
Tuesday, August the 20th, when it will be pro-
rogued by commission. The House of Commons
will sit to-day to report supply and pave the way
for the Appropriation Act. But as there are many
minor arrangements necessary, and as the House
will not close its sittings next week, the Ministerial
whitebait dinner has been fixed for Wednesday, the
14th inst. The Queen's Speech will then be drafted,
and agreed to at a Cabinet Council on Thursday.
The Appropriation Act, it is not doubted, will be
passed through both Houses by Friday next week.

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