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M. Mege—No ; four to five.
M. Baroche only repeated what he heard. The
abolition of the system had been attempted in 1793
and 1818 ; but at each of those-dates the mea:ure
hal been adopted under a revolutionary form, and
bad consequently been followed by a reaction due
to the causes to which it o.veil its origin. In 1793
tra►le was quite annihilated in consequence of poli-
tical events; in 1818 both public and private credit
suffered greatly, and the commercial classea had to
support a part of. the consequences of that crisis.
People were not always just under adversity. The
evil was partly attributed to the abolition of impri-
sonment for debt, and its re-establishment was called
for. A bill for so doing was brought in, and he had
voted for it, with the majority of the National As-
sembly. But the two periods could not be compared;
and what could not be accepted in 1848 appeared
to him worthy of adoption in 1867. (Hear, hear.)
He saw no inconsistency in such a change; and a
public man who had no greater contradiction to re-
proach himself with than the one in question would
be very innocent in the eyes of the Chamber and of
the country. (Assent.) Personal liberty, not being
engaged in commerce, could not be given as a
pledge and placed on the same footing as houses,
flocks, or furniture, which were guarantees, and
which the creditor might dispose of to his own pro-
fit. Yet what was done in imprisonmeat for debt?
The debtor was seized like a house or a beast of
hurden--(moyeanent)—with the only difference that
the one could be sold whilst the other could not.
All that the creditor could do was to shut up the
debtor within four walls. Political economy re-
quired the development of labour, which increased
public wealth. But how could a man 'work in pri-
son? It had been said that imprisonment for debt was
a means of credit, because it was a mode of coercion
which forced the debtor to pay his liabilities. In
his opinion, the only real means of intimidation
contained in the law was by bankruptcy. It had
however been said that individuals could not always
be bankrupt when they wished. He thought it
would be more correct to say : IndiiidualS were
made bankrupts when they did not wish it. (Laugh-
ter.) The simple cessation of payments constituted
insolvency. If the debtor pays, the insolvency could
not be pronounced ; but the sole fact of the cessa-
tion of payment was sufficient for the Tribunal of
Commerce to declare it.
M. Martel—lt is discretionary.
M..l3aroche—No ! It is a duty. The Tribunal
could not refrain from making the declaration.
Since the period of detention had been diminished,
the imprisonment had partly lost its terror. Ac-
cording to a return for the last five years, 2,272
persons remained in confinement during the entire
term of their imprisonment. Thus, the fear of in-
carceration did not force them to pay their debts.
Many might have preferred passing three months in
prison rather than pay a sum of 499 fr. It had been
said that the system should be maintained for fo-
reigners. That was, however, not the means to at-
tract them to Paris, as imprisonment for debt was
very severe against foreigners. A sum of a few
hundred francs due in an hotel was sufficient to
enable the creditor to obtain an order for the incar-
ceration of the debtor. the best security for trades-
men was in the exercise of prudence in their affairs.
The Government was disposed to abandon also the
right of imprisonment for the costs of justice,
although he might justify its maintenance in those
cases by showing that the payment formed part of
the sentence. The only case in which it was dis-
posed to retain the system was for unlawfully rais-
ing money on property already mortgaged, and
those instances were very rare, only one having oc-
curred since 1855. (Applause.)

IRELAND.

DUBLIN, March 28.

M. Fabre wai of opinion that imprisonment for
debt, in the terms in which it was at present
authorized, was legitimate in the majority of cases ;
and that in the others all that was required was a
slight modification of the law. The bill now before
the Chamber violated a great principle of law—that
the property of the debtor was the pledge of the
creditor. (Cries of " Enough, enough. To-mor-
row, to-morrow.")
The Chamber being consulted, decided that the
discussion should be again adjourned.
M. Gueroult—Several of my colleagues and my-
self, after the question which we asked concern-
ing the works in the garden of the Luxembourg,
had made a demand for interpellations on the
subject, and our application was to be examined
to-morrow (Thursday) in the bureaux. The Mi-
nister of State having informed us the Government
intended presenting, within a few weeks, a bill on
which the subject would come forward, as a mat-
ter of course we considered it right to withdraw
our demand. (Hear.) But we reserve to ourselves
to make at that moment such observations as are
suggested to us by the precipitation with which
the works are carried on in the Luxembourg, and
the tardiness manifested in presenting the bill.
(Movement.)
The President—ln consequence, the meeting of
the members in the bureaux fixed for to-morrow
will not take place.
The proceedings then terminated.

NEwsPApEI).
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Ireland, to be attached to the Ist Battalion of ft
14th Regiment, the service companies of which, sta-
tioned at the Curragh, are below their proper
strength. The troops, who were under the command.
of Lieut. D. Creagh, and in medical charge of Staff
Assist.-Surg. Clifton, embarked at Gravesend on'
board one of the Irish steamers proceeding to Cork-
Capt. R. M. Dickenson and 23 non-commissioned
•
officers and men of the Ist Battalion of the 10th-
Regiment also proceeded from Chatham to Ports-
mluth, there to embark for the Cape of Good Hope,
to join the head-quarters of that regiment. Fifty
non-commissioned officers and men belonging to the
2d Battalion of the 6th Regiment have also embarked
for Ireland, to be trt.nsferred to the Ist Battalion of
the 6th Regiment at Ferinoy, the strength of which
is ordered to be increased.
The Berar, hired sailing transport, Commander
Hall, arrived at Spithead yesterday from Madras
with the following military passengers on board,
under contract with the Hon. Council of India
Major Hunter, Madras Army, Mrs. Hunter and
child ; Lieut. Briscoe, 19th Regt., in military charge
of troops on board; Dr. Lowe, Madras Engineers,
and Mrs. Lowe ; Mrs. Dickinson and three children ;
Mrs. Lacy and three children ; 71 non-commissioned
officers and men, time-expired and invalided, from
various regiments, four women and three children.
Two deaths occurred on the voyage home—Major
11. Dickinson and Mr. Breadle, C.B. The Berar
has made a long passage from Madras, having sailed
thence on the 9th November, 1866. She called in.
at St. Helena on the 26th of January. From the
latitude of 27. N. to the• Channel she experienced a
continuance of head winds and bad weather. The
troops will be landed from the ship this morning by
a Government steamer and forwarded on to their
destinations—the invalids to the Royal Victoria
Hospital, Netley, and the time-expired men to the
depots of their regiments.
The Bellerophon frigate,
,Cazt. has re-
turned to Spithead from her Short Z.Mii-ortxfteTi-7-
mental firing from her 12-ton guns, and awaits Ad-
miralty orders as to her future movements.
The armoured frigate Royal Alfred, Capt. Her-
bert, steamed out from Spithead for the Channel,
south of the Isle of Wight, yesterday morning, for
experimental firing from her 12-ton guns.
The following appointments were made yesterday
at the Admiralty :—Charles E. Playfair, surgeon,
additional, to the Fisgard for Woolwich Hospital ;
Peter W. Wallace, surgeon, to the Research ;
Edmund Walter, M.D., surgeon, additional, to the
Excellent ; and Fred. Moore, first-class assistant
engineer, to the Himalaya.

The Lord Lieutenant has received a brief address
from the grand jury of the county Down, in which
they express" their utter abhorrence of the foulcon-
spiracy which has for some time threatened the peace
of the realm, and their unanimous and firm deter-
mination to support the Executive in any measures
which, in its wisdom, it may think it necessary to
adopt for the purpose of protecting the loyal and
peaceable inhabitants of the country." In his reply
to Col. Forde, M.P., the foreman, his Excellency
stated that these assurances were most acceptable,
and he feels convinced that he could count on their
co-operation and assistance if required.
In all districts where the Fenians appeared in
arms the magistrates are diligently at work receiv-
ing informations against the prisoners, sifting the
evidence, committing for trial at the Commission
those against whom the charges seem to be sus-
tained, and releasing those who are able to establish
their innocence. A considerable number are dis-
charged on giving security to appear when called
on. Dr. Coote is daily employed in this way at Kil-
mainham, where a large number of the Fenian pri-
soners are confined. Yesterday he let off eight per-
sons on their promising " to be of the peace," &c.\
Among those he has to examine are 12 prisoners
from Drogheda, who were lodged in that prison
yesterday.
Four persons found with arms in their possession
at 7, Mary's-lane, in this city, were brought up on
remand yesterday, and sent for trial at the Commis-
sion. James O'RiorJon, a deserter from the 4th
Dragoons, who had entered that regiment for the
purpose of tampering with the soldiers, was also
committed, together with M. Meledy and E. Day,
charged with stealing a horse and dray for convey..
ing arms and ammunition to Tallaght ou the night
of the rising.

Yesterday morning two brothers named Ryan
were arrested by the Kilfeacle police for the attack
on the 31st Foot, and the constabulary at that place
on the sth of March. Two of the men recently
arrested at Borrisoleigh, John Dennody and Michael
Maher, have turned approvers.
At Ennis the magisterial inquiry has resulted in
the committal of the following persons, bail being
in all cases refused :—John Burns, James Halloran,
John Maguire, Cornelius Sullivan, James Macna-
mara, Patrick Hickey, Ned M'lnerney, Quin, the
soldier in the 74th ; Stephen Slattery, Michael
M'lnerney, Thos. Welsh, Patrick Hagarty, Stephen.
James Rochford, Michael Hassett, John Cuning-
ham, Michael Cunningham, Dick Fiztgibbon,Patrick
Crohan, Richard Wall, Thomas Hanrahan, James
Doyle, George Dickson, John Mohony, John Crowe,
James Crowe, and Michael AP Mahon.
O'Brien, the supposed leader of the Fenian party
who attacked the police-station at Ballyknockane,
has been brought from Limerick to Cork, where ho
is lodged in the county gaol, to await his trial for
high treason. He is a man of low stature, with a
large auburn beard, and respectably dressed.
Patrick Sheehy, the young man recently arrested
in Queenstown while endeavouring to escape to
America disguised in female attire, and John Ryan,
for attempting to emigrate in a false name and on
suspicion of being connected with the Fenian rising,
were yesterday transmitted to Thurles. Both pri-
soners have been identified as being connected with
the rising.
The Cork Examiner reports that Mallow and
Kauturk, as well as the districts between, have
completely recovered tranquillity. The roads in the
neighbourhood of each of these towns are daily
patrolled by the police and military, of which there
are at .present in Mallow three companies of the
11th Regiment, and three companies of the 62J,
and a troop of Lancers. Brigadier-General Sir A.
Horsford still occupies quarters at Ward's Hotel.
A strict, but not obtrusive, surveillance is exercised
over the occupants of all trains passing the lines of
junction at Mallow. The country about Mill-street
was recently scoured by a party of police and mili-
tary, but no results followed the performance of
that operation.

At Nenagh yesterday morning the detachment of
the 2d (Queen's Own) Regiment of Foot were
paraded to hear the sentence read on Corporal John
M'lntosh, who had been found guilty of having ap-
propriated the hospital supplies to his own use, and
forged the names of several merchants of this town
to post-office orders and receipts. Lieut. Barter read
the verdict of the Court, finding the prisoner guilty
on all the charges, and ordering that he be degraded
to the rank of private in the corps, and be imprisoned
for a period of 672 days in a military prison. Ser-
geant-Major Hurff then stripped the corporal's
stripes off the prisoner, who was removed in custody
of a corporal's guard, with fixed bayonets, to the
guardhouse, whence he will be transmitted to the
military prison at Limerick.
A large vessel, which proved to be the ship Con-
fidence, of New York, from Charlestown for Liver-
pool, with a cargo of cotton, grounded at an early
hour yesterday morning on a
bar of sand, opposite
Fethard, on the southern coast of the county of
a total wreck.
Wexford, called Bagenbuu. She is likely to become

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