The Sun.
London, England, 1858-08-14 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 14, 1858.

dates. Intense heat will follow in July and August—dense
fogs in September, and in November winter sets in, and
continues until the beginning of April. How many months
out of the 12 raining operations can be carried on in such a
climate time alone can develop. In this particular the
new El Dorado can ever equal California. Here the miner,
if he has water, cann work to advantage for very nearly 11
months out of the 12 ; but if he should have 130 or 140
working days, in the British possessions, out of the whole
year, it is probable that he will have reason to be thankful.

season will have brought an aggregate tof 5100,000 in
money, and an equal amount in furs, to the trade of this
city; and this, sir, it is easy to foresee, is but the germ of
a trade which at no distant day will give to the waters of
the northern Mississippi the commercial position now en-
joyed by those of Lake Michigan.
Mr. JAMES W. TAYLOR. next addressed the meeting.
He first, in reply to a question from Governor Ramsey, al-
luded to the geological indications of British Oregon. Ex-
cept on Vancouvers Island, and the opposite shore of Pu-
get's Sound, there had been observed to be an absence of the
silurian and other limestone formations, which either underlie
or are associated with coal fields. The Rocky Mountains,
the most easterly of the Pacific ranges, have been called
Stoney or Histening Mountains, because abounding
in siliceous rocks. These conditions are favourable
to gold discovery, and exist in British Oregon as fully as in
Australia, California, or Siberia. As to the surface minings,
the Fraser and Thomson river districts had one great advan-
tage. Its northern situation secured to the country fre-
quent and copious rains. The rivers are numerous and
full of rapids ; hence the disintegration of the gold bear-
ing quartz by the action of the rains and frosts, and the
dispersion of the gold along the beds of the streams may be
expected in a greater degree than in California, where
much less rain falls, and where work is often suspended in
consequence. Perhaps this is a cause why the mines
of Australia are falling off in productiveness. The
speaker regarded this fall of water through North-
Western America as not only valuable for mining,
but as affording a great resource for agriculture and
stock raising in the valleys of the Columbia and tribu-
taries, Fraser and Thompson rivers, and Vancouver's Island.
The rainless district of the continent was far to the south;
but the immense region north of the southern boundary of
Minnesota extending to the Pacific was favoured in that re-
spect, and agriculture was not limited by the necessity of
irrigation. A glance at the map would show the immense
river system thus comprised. The basins of the Columbia,
the Upper Missouri, the Yellow Stone, the James, the
Sioux, the Minnesota, the Red River of the North, the
Upper Mississippi, the St, Louis and the St. Croix,
are evidently adequate for the organisation of ten
first class ,States of the American Union ; while
north of the lute Notional line similar river systems,
to wit, the basins of the Fraeee god Thompson Rivers, the
Upper Columbia, the Athabasca, the Saskatchewan, the
Assiniboin and the Red Itiver of the North (the last named
divided with Minnesota), are now well understood to be no
less adapted to settlements. The present discussion, as
had been previously ohseeved, was no less a question than
the dedication to Anglo-Saxon civilisation of 1,000 COO
square miles of the globe ; an area as large and almost
identical in physical respects, with the Continent of Fsurope.
Upon the practical question of an overland journey to
British Oregon, a pee, rence has been generally expressed,
during the discussion, for the more northern route by Pem-
bina, Cae:ton, the north branch of the Saskatchewan and the
Athabasca Portage to the boat encampment me the Upper
Columbia. The advantages of this route consist of the succes-
sion of grass, water, timber, and game as detailed in Sir
George Simpson's narrative—the irequ3nt posts of the
Hudson's Bay Company, the security from Indian attacks,
and the important fact that the point of egress from the
Rocky Mountains, namely, the boat encampment, is imme-
diately adjacent to the gold district. Still a route from
Pembina, far more to the south, has every advantage ofed
the
route above named, except that a party might be annoy
by Blackfeet Indians; and there are no trading posts as a
resource against unforeseen accidents, Mr. James. Bird,
for 35 years in the employment of the Hudson's
occ Baa-
y
Company and the American Fur Company, and
sionally acting as interpreter to negotiations with
the Blackfeet Indians, has often traversed the plains
and mountains between Salt Lake City and Athaba ca,
and describes the Kootonais paesi very near the ifl
ternational line as mare favourable than any other.
A route thither would start from Pembina, pass
to the right of Turree mountain, perhaps forty-five miles
north of it, and the same distance beyond the boundary,
cross the valley of Mouse or Saurie river, and thence north
of west, and about midway from the boundary to the South
Saskatchewan, by Cypress mountain to the head waters of
Mo-ko-ne or Belly river, which is the most southerly of the
bead-waters of the Bow or South Saskatchewan. The whole
route is very favourable, consisting of an extensive prairie
or buffalo range, and easily travelled by carts. The
pass thus reached, known as the Kootanais pass,
rises gradually, and is only three days' walk—one
day on herseack —to the borders of the Koo-
toners, McGilvery Flatbow river. Over this pass
the Kootonais or Flatbow Indians are accustomed to
descend into the plains of the Saskatchewan for their sum-
mer hunts of the buffalo. Beyond the pass, the route to
Fort Colville, as pursued by Simpson, is circuitous and
difficult, so much as to add 500 miles before reaching
the gold district. If a more direct connection should be
discovered, this routs' may he found more advantageous
than any other. It is preferable to the line of Stevens'
railroad survey. In regard to the route of Gov. Stevens,
and the district through which it passes, Mr. T. was in-
clined to believe, notwithstanding the strictures of Mr.
M'Leod, that the country within reach of the line was
capable of sustaining ten flourishing communities. No one
supposed that the vicinity of the line was equal to the
fertile districts of Illinois or Minnesota. All that was ne-
cessary to establish in the coming struggle in Congress
upon the Pacific Railroad question was that the northern
route, from Lake Superior to Puget Sound, has linmea-
surably the advantage over any similar proposition which
has been urged at IN aehington. For one, the speaker be-
lieved that the more desirable route to the Pacific would he
found in the possession of Great Britain, and that a great
inter-oceanic cotnmunication was more likely to be con-
structed through the Saskatchewan basin than over what
may be not improperly celled the American desert—the
cretaceous and comparatively rainless acres of southern lati-
tudes within the territory of the United Str.tes. This Fraser
river discovery may operate to the discomfiture of politicians.
While Congress has appropriated 5600,000 per annum to
forward a route near latitude 32 deg., and even in the pre-
sent depleted state of the Treasury can spend 5150,000 f
a waggon road near the latitude of Santa Fe, a miserable
sectionalism ignores the claims of nine degrees of latitude
south of the British boundary. The controversy has dege-
nerated to a centralisation on one route, with no prospect
that it will be for the common welfare.
To. folowing resolutions were then unanimously adopted :
—" That the citizens of Minnesota, it, common ill, the
States cf the North-west, are deeply interested in a
connection between the northern lakes and the Pacific
Ocean, and if sActional counsels shall prevail at
Washington, excluding the great national highway be-
tween Lake Superior and Puget Sound from its equal
and just recognition by Congress, then we congratulate the
citizens of the Lake Mates, that by co-operaron with our
Canadian brethren an international route through the
valleys of the Red river of the north, the Saskatchewan and
the Columbia is not only practicable, but will develope the
most valuable portions of the North American continent
into powerful and populous states.
" That the great physical fact will vindicate itself, namely,
that the commerce and power of the globe lies north of the
40th degree of north latitude, and that four-fifths of Europe,
with a corresponding area of the Pacific coast of North
America, isnorth of the centre of Minnesota.
"That the discovery of gold fields on Fraser River, and
the probable removal from the S.skatchewan district,
British Oregon' and Vancouver's Island, of dominion by the
Hudson's Bay Company, opening those immense and fer-
tile territories to settlement, are considerations which im-
peratively demand a far different policy by the Government
of the United States than has hitherto prevailed.
" That we ask nothing more for the northern route of a
Pacific railroad than we would grant in aid of a central or
southern route • but anything less will be a gross injustice,
against which the people of Minnesota have a right to pro-
test.
"That
our senators and representatives be requested to
ogsit.epaotnLenaakeen troouf
tePtaa.cial it° eraasi tl wuanyti lb cuenniseusss
tvills,
ioletye
aftr,er
ttob ethep
of 1860 gives the north-west her full voice in the councils of
the Union."
The ineetinc, then
adjourned to Saturday, in the hall of
the House of Repieset.tatives.

FRASER RIVER GOLD MINES.

ADJOURNED MEETING OF CITIZENS OF MINNESOTA.

—OVERLAND ROUTE TO BRITISH OREGON.
(From the St. Paul Times.)
A large assembly convened, as above, at four o'clock,
p.m. Long before the organisation of the meeting groups
were engaged in the examination of maps which were sus-
pended upon the walls for the sake of geographical illustra-
tion. One wag a large map, published from the Land Office
of Canada, upon which both the northern and southern
Saskatchewan routes were delineated. Elsewhere, Colton's
map of the United States was suspended, with a scheme of
ten States between Minnesota and the Pacific, marked
with colours, and even described by names, and which was
a part of a plan for the subdivision of all the present
territory of the union into new States. A map
of the globe bad a broad red line drawn across
its face on the latitude of 431 degrees north, with a view of
exhibiting what a large portion of the Pacific coast and of
Europe was north of the southern boundary of Minnesota.
The chair was occupied by Col. We. H. Noble. Mr.
J. A. Wheelock, acted as secretary.
The committee appointed at a previous meeting, having
under consideration the commercial relations of Minnesota
with the Red River settlements, and the bearings of the
system of trading pests on the question of routes, asked for
more time for the collection of data on the commercial sub-
jects involved—which was granted; and at the request of
the chairman, Hon. Martin McLeod, Gov. Ramsey was ap-
pointed chairman.
In relation to the feasibility of the various proposed routes
Mr. M`LEort submitted the following informal report :
" It will be recollected that at the meeting held at the
Fuller House, on the 7th instant, a resolution was passed
in reference to the choice of three routes for the emigrant
road from St. Paul to the Fraser River gold mines in British
Oregon. ' First, by Pembina, Red River settlement and
the north branch of the Saskatchewan. Second, by the
z3outli Saskatchewan and the Kootanais Pass. Third, by
Go nor Stephens' railroad route on the American side of the
internatielnal boundary.' For the practical information of
those desirous of undertaking the journey, I have hastily
prepared some brief notes gathered from the journals of
voyaging and scientific parties of exploration, by various i
routes, through that region. For a small party I
of ten or twelve persons hastily gotten up, the
Stephens' route appears to be the least favourable
of the three routes, not only as to distance, but also as
to the features of the country, character and number of the
Indian tribes through which they would unavoidably have
to pass. The distance from St. Paul to Vancouver on the
Columbia is 1,864 miles to Settle, a port on the east side of
Puget Sound; by the Columbia route, 2,024 miles, 1,152
miles of which is through an uncultivatable region, afford-
iog but little game at uncertain seasons, and at a late sea-
son not a sufficiency of grass for animals. We will then
dispose of this route, with the remark that however prac-
ticable or desirable it may be—as being all
leaving St.Pau
later than the 15th of May, it cannot be recommended fur
a small party starting from here at a late season. We
have then the choice of the two routes by the Sas-
katchewan, and to give something like a correct idea of
teat region, and the features of the routes usually travelled
by the voyageurs of the Hudson's Bay Company, I will
quote from the journal of our expedition from the Columbia,
up that river by its north branch, thence to the tributaries
of the Saskatchewan, and down that stream and the valley
by water and by land to Bas de la Riviere, a day's journey
from Fort Garry, Red River settlement.
" The party started on the 4th of April from near the
mouth of the Columbia, which they ascended in canoes.
On the 10th of May they first got sight of the Rocky
Mountains, and sent forward a party to procure horses and
supplies from the east side. From the west base of the moun-
tains they travelled on foot, carrying packs of 50Ib. each,
including their provisions, which consisted of pounded corn
brought from the Columbia, and pemican found in a cache.
Before, however, they commenced their foot march, and
after leaving the Columbia, `they ascended for some dis-
tance a small stream called Canoe River, from the fact that
it was upon its banks the first canoes were conatt ucted
which descended to the Pacific, distance by Arrowsmith's
map 1,200 miles.' Their march through the passes of the
mountains commenced on the 14th of May, and ' was very
fatiguing in consequence of the depth of the snow : on either
side were immense glaciers of ice-bound rocks, on which
the rays of the setting sun reflected the most Uan-
tiful prismatic colours. One of those peaks was
like a fortress of rock ; it rose 1,800 feet perpen-
dicularly above the mountain lakes, and had its
_
summit covered with ice.' People so often speak of the
Rocky Mountains, that I desire here to say a few words on
that subject. They extend nearly in a straight line from
the 35th parallel to the mouth of Mackenzie River, in the
Arctic, in latitude about 65 degrees north. This distance,
30 degrees of latitude, equivalent to 2,250 miles, is, bow-
ever, only the mean side of a right-angled triangle, the base
\of which occupies 26 degrees of longitude, in latitude 35
geg. or 36 deg., that is to say, about 1,600 miles, with the
chain of mountains for a bypothenuse, so that the real and
as it were the diagonal length of the chain across
\
the continent is nearly 3,000 miles from south-east
to north- west. In such a vast extent of mountains, the per-
pendicular height and width of base must be very unequal.
The petty were eight days in crossing them, whence I con-
clude from our rote of travel, that they have, at the, point,
about latitude 54 deg., a base of 200 miles—e irh an altitude
of about 6,000 feet above the sea, while the real height of
the Rocky Mountains, as since ascertained. average 12,000
feet, the highest knorvu peak being 16,000 feet. From the
mountains the party descended in canoes fastened together,
and on the Ist June reached the confluence of the River
Pembina, which flows from the south, and takes its rise
in a spur of the Rocky Mountains. On the 2d June they ,
reached Slave Lake River, arid met a hand of Kinis-
tenaux,
who had j rst killed a buffalo, which they said for
a brass kettle. Passing by a tortuous route through
the region of the Red Elk and Athabasca rivers, which were
ob-tructed by boulders, some of the party had to take to the
shore, while the men dragged along the canoes, a laborious I
and tedious operation ; and so on, on foot and in canoes,
until they reached the main stream of the Saskatche-
wan
on the 17th of June. From these notes it ap-
pears that it takes 38 days to ascend the Columbia,
eight days to cross the Rocky Mountains, thence
along and across numerous rivulets and streams northward
to the Saskatchewan, down the valley of that river and
I
1 through Lake Winnipeg, 41 days more; in all 87 days to
Bas de la Riviere, near the Red River settlement. When we
take into consideration the difficulty of the ascent of the Co-
lumbia, and the tortuous and tardy march at the eastern
base of the mountains, before entering the main valley of
' the Saskatchewan, we are forcibly led to the conclusion
that 20 or even 25 days should be deducted from the time
expended on the whole route. That length of time would
he amply sufficient for a large train to reach Red River set-
tlement, where guides and hunters could be procured with-
out much difficulty, and additional supplies of the proper
kind of fmd, such as pemican, biscuit, and flour could be
purchased at reasonable rates. American horses could pro-
bably be exchanged for Indian ponies, and the common
wooden carts of the colony obtained for the journey through
the valley of the Saskatchewan. At the tneuntains these
cheepcarts should be abandoned and pack-saddles substi-
tuted to cross the mountains and complete the journey.
There would be no difficulty in ascertaining at the colony
which of these ,two routes by the Saskatchewan would be
the preferable one, but unless we have come to erroneous con-
clusions, and have been misled by infintnoation derived from
sources which we believe to be reliable in the main, we
think the most northern route will be found the most prac-
ticable, as it certainly is more direct than the one by the
Kootanais Pass, and would not exceed in length the esti-
mate made at cur former meeting, of 1,650 miles from St.
Paul. Allowing for delay's and difficulties which cannot be
foreseen in a journey of ouch a length through a country
comparatively but little known, we think that in three
months from St. Paul a large train would reach the gold
digging region near Thompson and Fraser Rivers. A small
train would in all reasonable probability reach there in 73
bays, hut more reliable data, on which to found prac-
tical conclusions of this nature so very desirable now,
would doubtless be learned at the colony of the Red River
settlement."
On motion the above report was unanimously accepted by
the meeting.
Col. Joiree H. STETENS, of Glencoe, being called upbn,
expressed the opinion that the Fraser River discovery would
lead to a knowledge of the interior of British America,
which would make the navigation of the Red and Sas-
katchewan rivers a very important commercial fact. How
few appreciate that a steamer can depart from the mouth
cf Sioux Wond river, at about the central point of the
western boundary of Minnesota, and thence descend
a distance of 500 miles to Lake Winnipeg, then
pass 390 miles through that mighty inland sea, and ascend
the Saskatchewan to the base of the Rocky Mountains—at
least 3,000 miles of inland navigation, including the north
and south branches of the Saskatchewan. Ten days of slow
land travel suffice to connect from the point thus reached
with the navigable channel of the Columbia at Boat En-
ccahmarPamcteenrt. of
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dfraaci
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measures now on foot for its colonisation are considered, the
subject rises in dignity and importance far beyond ordi
nary scheme of exploration and occupation.
any
Governor RA3IiiEY, in answer to a call by the meeting,
responded by reminding the audience that it is in the recol-
lection
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walals tchaerrt
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new Pittsburgh), across the Alle-
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Mountains to Philadelphia. The immense
tairaecalsimwaestet 1
of the Red River and south of the Athabasca, w
not inferior to our own, is capable—according to the esti-
mate
of Lord Selkirk, founded on a personal observation of
the territory in question—of supporting a population of '
30,000,000, and will furnish the world with a trade not much
inferior to that which now passes between the Atlantic States i
and the valley of the Mississippi. And, Mr. President, this '
is a trade which belongs to us in Minnesota. It cannot
be diverted from us. The difficulties and the cost of trans-
portation on the old canoe route along Rainy river, which
has heretofore been followed by the Hudson's Bay Com-
pany, constitute an objection against the channel of con,
munication, which becomes irresistible when brought into
competition with the immensely greater facilities of coin
tnenication by this route. Accordingly, sir, we every year
witness a large accession to our trade from this quarter—
vide!) every season gathers new volume from the gradual
abandonment of the old routes by Superior and Hudson's
Bay—to pour its valuable contributions into our market
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ted with the statistics o
qtnuaayl'feor, Mr. Kittson, who is prerltiahpi,s4 :ereadtehoarsouagnhylymaacn
in Minnesota, thar:e.the _Red River trains of this

LETTERS FOR THE EAST INDIES.-011 the Ist of
September next, and thenceforward, the compulsory pre-
payment of postage will he extended to all letters addressed
to the East Indies, whether intended to be forwarded by
way of Southatup!on or by way of Marseilles. The postage
also of letters posted in the East Indies, addressed to the
United Kingdom, will be required to be prepaid by the
senders.

ALLEGED MURDER IN SUFFOLK.—The parish of
Weybread, a retired village on the borders of Suffolk and
Norfolk has been the scene of a chocking murder committed,
there is every reason to believe, by a landowner in that
village. The facts of the case ace these:—The victim
is a labouring, man, tamed Pattrick , aged 39, who
was also parish clerk, residing on an offnand farm,
the property of his murderer, Thomas Drat:e, who
is the owner of two farms in the parish, boil' of which
he occupies, is a single man, and for several years has been
subject to recurring fits of dangerous mania. His only rela-
tive being an invalid uncle, who resides at a distanca, his
house has been kept by James and Lydia Bridges, the
former working on the farms, and the latter officiating as
housekeeper. On Saturday, James Pattrick, the deceased
man, had been as usual at work on the farm. On that night
Drane retired to rest about half-past 10, but between 12
and 1 he got up and awoke Midges and his wife. They
dressed and went down stairs when they found their master,
Drane, had left the house. His conduct had oftentimes been
strange, and therefore their fears were excited. He shortly
returned to the house, when he struck at and hit Bridges,
who ran away into a meadow, and his wife after him.
Shortly after this, Drane again quitted the house, and pro-
ceeded to that occupied by his bailiff, Valentine Barnaby,
whom he called up, and of whom he made inquiries respect-
ing a lost sheep. Barnaby and his wife also got upand Drane
went away. Shortly afterwards the deceased James Pattrick,
who had been to his club, and who lived on Drane's offhand
farm, came tip, and he and Barnaby proceeded in company
a short distance in the direction taken by Mr. Drane. Barnaby
then left him, and Pattrick, with Barnaby's dog, went in
search of Drane. In a few minutes Barnaby's attention was
attracted by a conversation between Drane and Pattrick •
he heard a scuffle and Drone say—" Come on, my boy,
can wait on you or 20 like you, if you come one at a time."
Barnaby, however, heard no blows, but Mrs. Bridges did.
After a few words she heard a blow struck and some one
fall. It was then very dark, and Drane was heard making
off for the Harleston-road. Barnaby at once went in the
direction whence the sound of a scureocatrnee,and he, found
Pattrick lying on a bank in Stubb's- an , _ blood '.run-
's head. The poor fellow was picked
to a barn close by, and subsequently to his
up and conveyed from an axe which
home. He bad received a fearful blow d
ning furiously" from his
belonged to Bridges, a was kept conceathe
possessed of it is not ex-
he left the
activ known, nor was he seen to have it when
what had happened
coalhouse. lIowD Drane whelleicame po
house. On discovering an alarm was
f l
given, and Drane was soon captured by the parish constable
te was
who took him to his own (Drane'a) house, w
strapped down daring Sunday, and on Monday was removed
to a lunatic asylum at Norwich, where he still remains.
Mr. Candler and Mr. Crisp,
surgeons, of liarleston, were
sent for, and on examining Pattrick found that the principal
injury inflicted was a wound on the scalp over tote parietal
bone, which was fractured. The case was beyond medical
aid, and the unfortunate man died about 2 o'clock on Tues-
day morning. An inquest was °paned at the Crown inn,
Weybread, on Wednesday, before Mr. B. L. Gross, when,
in addition to the above facts, it was proved by the surgeon?,
above named t hat Mr. Drone was insane, Mr. Candler stating
that he was in a state of dangerous lunacy from Friday
until Saturday last. The inquest was adjourned till yester-
day (Friday).
t ADvaaTisEatENT.] —Holloway's Ointment and Pills.—
Mr. Meadows, chemist, Leicester, states in a letter to Pro-
fessor Holloway that another instance of the benefit derived
from the use of Holloway's medicines came tinder his per-
sonalforafrom observation in the case of a painter, who had been a
eon
t. amendment
Alast,
like
many
hesufferer with large cares or boils on his arms, chest, and legs
byt
whateverotwarss,
Holloway's oin'ment and pills, and
persevering in the use of these invaluable remedies he was
derived
h ew
driven in despair to try
perfectly cured. The ointment should be well rubbed into
the parts a&cted, and the pills taken
according to the
printed directions which accompany each box.

LAW INTELLIGENCE,
COURT Or BANKRUPTCY.—Ara. 13.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Fane.)

IN RE JOHN TOWNSEND, M.P. FOR GREENWICH.

The bankrupt was an auctioneer, of Greenwich, and also
a member of Parliament for that borough. This was an
adjourned examination meeting.
Mr. Linklater appeared for the bankrupt; Mr. News
(Lawrence and Plews) opposed for Mr. Wynn, the late
partner of the bankrupt, and a creditor for £.900; Mr.
George opposed on behalf of the petitioning creditor, Mr.
Shepherd.
Mr. Linklater said the accounts bad not been filed, be-
cause the accountant required to be paid for the labour he
had bestowed upon them before he would part with them.
He therefore wished to know if his honour thought they
should be filed ?
The Commissioner—Think ! What signifies what I think
about it ? I suppose the accountant would not be so foolish
as to file them without being paid.
Mr. Linklater—Could he be paid out of the estate ?
The Commissioner—Would not that be paying something
out of nothing?
Mr. Linklater—l am told it is not so.
The CommissipoanyerhT: houc ilihwadbgeitvteerudpishetitsssetbnaotnwhiitshotwbne
accountant. I dare say if you persuade him that there is
win hk: rar en. wdwri thh papert r
nt to r e
official assignee—Mr. Townsend thought
fit, for his own purpose, to get accounts made up from the
year 1852. I should not have gone back so far, considering
it a useless waste of time and money.
Mr, Linklater —The accountant will file the accounts on
being paid two-thirds of the amount, and from what I see of
the estate, there is in ell probability sufficient to meet that.
The Commissioner—Well, convince the accountant of
that.
Mr. George—We should object to its being paid out of
the estate.
The Commissioner—What is there in hand ?
Mr. Linklater—D3.
Mr. Plews—l um going to ask your honour to adjourn
the bankrupt sine die without protection, and should there-
fore desire to examine the bankrupt.
The bankrupt was then examined by Mr. Plows. He
said—l was served with a notice in bankruptcy by Mr.
Wynn.
Mr. Linklater objected to questions concerning Mr.
Wynn, who W 29 a late partner of the bankrupt, and with
whom certain Chancery proceedings were pending.
The Commissioner—If he is a creditor he is entitled to
ask the bankrupt any questions he thinks necessary to
elucidate the-bankrupt's affairs ; but if Mr. Plews asks im-
pertinent questions that have nothing to do with the matter,
then you may stop him.
Examination continued—l was first served with a notice
in bankruptcy about July or the beginning of August. I
was adjudicated bankrupt on the 28th August. Mr. Shep-
herd was the petitioning creditor ; he was no con-
nection or relation of mine. That bankruptcy was
annulled shortly afterwards —on the sth or 6th Oc-
tober. I was bankrupt again in April, 1858, for the
same debts. Shepherd was again petitioning cre-
ditor. I have no recollection that I disputed the adjudica •
tion in April. I do not think it was disputed. I think I
may almost certainly say not. Oh yes ! it was disputed this
year, most certainly, by Messrs. Tucker and Greville, wbo are
rey solicitors and also solicitors for my trade assignee, Mr.
Wallis. Mr. Wallis is my creditor for £3OO, and £l5 inte-
rest, for which he holds security. I have handed over all
my business books to the official rssignee; they were sent
up in a hamper to him. My !rid examination has already
been adjourned twice. Upon the first occasion I had not
done much, or perhaps anything towards my accounts, be-
cause I entertained great hopes of being able to supersede
my bankruptcy, and with that view I offered my creditors
£2OO aeyear out of my future earnings, and 2s.in the pound
down, which a friend had offered to pay for me ' • that friend
was Mr. Wallis, my trade assignee. More than three-
fourths of my creditors signed a deed drawn to ratify this
arrangement. I have the greatest possible desire to pay
my creditors in any shape or way, and I am ready now to
lay aside £2OO a-year out of my future earnings for that
purpose.
Mr. Pleas then called Ills honour's attention to the fact
that when
wthheiclialshtaaadjnooutrnbroeeettlidt
otnoe.ok place, on the Otis of
July, the bankrupt undertook to file his accounts within a
Mr. Linklater thought Mr. Plews had not treated the
liberty given him by the Court of examining the bankrupt
in a fair spirit.
The Commissioner—What does that signify ? He has
asked a few question., to which you have heard the answers.
How does Mr. Plews' conduct become matter of inquiry ?
The question before me is, what is to be done to the bank-
rupt, not to Mr. Thews. (Laughter.)
Mr. Plews then addressed the Court, contending that
the bankruptcy was entirely in the ,hands of the bankrupt,
or, which was just the same thing, of a friendly assignee.
The Commissioner--I have nothing to do with that. I f
the majority of creditors are friendly to the bankrupt, and
herefore choose a Ziendly assignee, what has that to do
with the matter ?

street, Thurloe-square, Brompton, baker, applied to pass
his examination.

_ .
Mr. Plews—l complain that the bankrupt is availing
himself of the pro!ection of the Court, and not giving in
exchange for it that to which the creditors and the Court
are entitled.

The Commissioner—ThPrefore you ask me to adjourn this
sitting (which I must th, because he has not tiled accounts),
and refuse the bankrupt protection.
Mr. Plews—He has had sufficient notice from the Court.
Tee Commissioner—Would not his Parliamentary position
protect him, if I withheld protection?
Mr. Plews—Your honour's refusal would operate indi-

The balance-sheet, by Mr. H. C. Johnson, Moorgate-
street, shows:—Creditors unsecured, £745; ditto holding
securities, £671 ; ditto to be paid in full, £3.2 ; profits and
commissions received, £341 ; debtors good, £118; doubtful,
15s. • property given up, £l6 IN. ; ditto held by credi-
tors, £464 ; trade expenses, £531; losses, £B2; house and
personal, £449; deficiency, July, 1857, £205.
The bankrupt passed his examination, and o'itained re-
newed protection to the certificate meeting.

rectly for the benefit of creditors.
The bankrupt—l could not file my accounts because at
the last innnent this sum was demanded of me. In justice
to the accountant, I must say his charge is a very fair one,
but I had no idea he would expect it to be paid down. I
have not the 150 he requires, nor can I get it.
The Commissioner—l do not see what I can do, unless I
adjourn this sitting generally, and decline to give you pro-
tection, because, hoNever friendly creditors may be to you,
still, it 19 out (4'20 are so disposed, but the 20th calls upon
the Court to do justice, I must do it.
Mr. Tucker (Tucker and GrevEl?.) stated that he Ind
within the last few minutes wide an arrangement with the
accountants, Messrs. Butler and Canuinz, who had very

kindly agreed to accept a somewhat smaller portion of the
money down, and therefore the accounts could be filed at
any time Idslooor might name.
It was then agreed that the accounts should be filed on or
before this day week.
Mr. George said his clients cost's had not yet been paid,
there being no estate. Toe bankrupt was therefore not in
the position to ask any favour. His client was a creditor
for £•200 money lent.
The Commissioner—After he knew the man was penniless?
Mr. George—No; long before.
The Commissioner—When was It
The bankrupt-15th April, 1857.
The Commissioner—What has all this to do with it ?
Mr. George—The bankrupt represented he would pay it
in three months.
__

The Commissioner —Yours is only the case of every
creditor. You have been promised the money and have not
got it. There is an undertaking to file the accounts; what
now do you want ?
Mr. Plews—l would consent willingly to an order with-
out protection till the accounts are filed.

The Commissioner—He has undertaken publicly that the
accounts shall be filed, and I shall grant him protection till
then, and if, this day week, he has not filed his accounts, I
will decline to protect him further.
Mr. Plews—Will ysu make an order that we shall have
notice of any application for renewal of protection ?
The Commissioner—l will see that that is done. How
much does he owe?

Mr. Butler (Butler and Canning)—About £6,000.
The Commissioner—Unsecured creditors ?
Mr. Butler—Secured and unsecured.
Mr. Plews was then heard to contend that an adjourn.
men t should be ordered sine die.
Mr. Linklater was heard against.

His Honour—l shall adjourn this silting to the 9.2 d Oc!o-
-her— the bankrupt depositing with the messenger of the
court the necessary and unavoidable expenses.
Adjourned accordingly.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Goulburn.)

yards of Mr. Chorley's house; they were both walking prisoner had obtained admission to the premises from the
away as quickly as they could. river by opening the window of the taproom. In the bundle
The police intimated that they had given false addresses. in the boat a set of bagatelle balls were found. They bad
Mr. Paynter remanded them, and directed the police to been stolen from the parlour.
see whether any evidence could ha produced to show that The prisoner made no defence, and said he was guilty.
they were in company before Williams went down into the Mr. Selfe—l can't try this case here.
area.
Marshall said the prisoner was detected a few nights since
CAUTION TO RAILWAY CARMEN.—On Wednesday in entering the office of the superintendent of the Londoa
-William Strange, carman, in the employment of the Great Docks at Wapping. The prisoner was entering at the
Western Railway Company, was charged by Mr. Acason, window when he was detected by the watchman on duty
inspector of the goods' department, with breaking open a there and arrested, but he contrived to make his escape.
package belonging to the Hon. Ashley Ponsonby, while he Mr. Selfe—This is such a clear case of burglary that the
was conveying it from that gentleman's town house at Rut- prisoner must go for trial.
land-gate to the railway. He was seen by Corporal Green- Shaw was then committed.
wood, of the Ist Life Guards, who was standing at a window
at Knightsbridge barracks, to stop the van and take some
brushes from the package ; and the corporal promptly com-
municating with the railway company, Mr. Acason searched
prisoner's house and found two of the missing brushes.
Prisoner was remanded for the attendance of the van guard,
a boy, who stated that he put the package into the van at
Rutland-gate; but when they bad proceeded a short distance
prisoner sent him on an errand, and during his absence
broke open the package.
Mr. Paynter committed the prisoner, who pleaded guilty,
for six months to hard lattour in the House of Correction.

MARYLEBONE. -- ORGAN-GRINDING NUISANCE.—
Mr. Charles Babbage, the well-known scientific gentleman,
residing at 1, Dorset-street, Portman-square, to whom
the itinerant organ-grinders have for several years been a
source of great annoyance in the prosecution of his studies,
attended the Court to prefer a charge against en Italian
named Giuseppe Sistroe.
Complainant (upon whose evidence numerous musicians
have upon former occasions been brought up before the ma-
gistrates of this court and convicted) deposed that about a
quarter to 12 o'clock the previous night he was disturbed in
his studies by the playing of an organ near his premises.
He remained quiet for some time, in hopes that the noise
would cease, but as it did not he was compelled to go out.
When he did so, he desired the prisoner to leave. He went
a short distance; but he had no sooner got in-doors, imagin-
ing that the nuisance had been effectually got rid of, when the
prisoner again commenced playing right opposite his house.
He then sought for and obtained the assistance of a police-
constable, by whom prisoner was taken into custody.
51 D said that the prisoner went quietly with him to the
station-house.

LAMBETIL—SERious CHARGE OF DETAINING A
POST LETTER.—George West, a singular-looking person,
who was described as a painter, residing at No. 54, Webber-
row, Westtninster-road, was placed at the bar before the
lion. G. C. Norton on a charge, as it appeared in the police-
sheet, of " fraudulently detaining a post letter delivered at
43, Duke-street, Westtninster-road, on the 19th of July
last, the property of John Bridges, in the parish of St.
George the Martyr."

Binmi appeared for the prosecution; and Mr. Neale
For the defence.

Complainant further stated that these musicians had be-
come quite intolerable. In the course of the previous day
be was compelled to go out of doors to order an organist
to leave, and about a week ago he was awoke in the middle
of the night by the loud playing of an organ beneath his
bedroom window.

The prisoner, through an interpreter (2:39 D) said that
he went away when requested to do so.
Mr. Long fined the prisoner 103., or in default seven
days' imprisonment, and he was given to understand that
if brought up again for a similar offence he would not be so
leniently dealt with.

A MOTHER CHARGED BY HER SON WITH ROBBERY.
—Elizabeth Orford, a respectably-dressed woman, about
50 years of age, was charged with having stolen a sovereign,
the property of Josoph Orford, her son, a stonemason, re-
siding at 3, pleasant-passage, Camden-town.
Mr. Long (to the son)—Do you wish to proceed with
this case against your own mother ?
Son—Yes, sir, I do; I de not wish to be robbed by her or
any one.
The magistrate discharged the mother, remarking that
he was sorry she had such a son.
AFFILIATION.—Mary Anne Horne, 39, James-street,
Oxford-street, attended in support of a summons obtained by
her against SVillic,rn Lucas, a grocer, residing in John-
son-street, Notting-hill, fur the support of two illegitimate
children, to which she had given birth, and of which he (Mr.
Lucas) was the putative father. One was born in February,
1853, and the other in November, 1855.
The defendant was not present when the case was called
on, and it was heard in his absence.

Mr. Woolf, from the office of Mr. Herring, appeared for
the complainant, and it was clearly shown that money had
been paid at different times for the support of the children.
Mr. Long made an order in each case of 2s. 6d. a-week
and the costs.

SOUTHWARK.—CAUTION TO COFFEE-SHOP KEEP-
ERS.—SELLING BEER AND SPIRITS WITHOUT A Ll-
CENSE.—Elizabeth Simmons, the keeper of a coffee-house,
in Upper Ground-street, Blackfriars-road, was summoned
by the pollee for unlawfully selling beer and spirits in her
house on Sunday mornings, such house not having been
duly licensed.
Mr. Solomon appeared for the defendant.
Police-constable, 117 L, said that on Sunday morning
last, at five minutes to ten, he went with another officer in
private clothes to the defendant's house, having received
information that she was in the habit of selling beer and
spirits. On entering the place they saw several men sitting
about, and two were served with a pot of beer by her, which
they paid her for and drank. Witness and his brother con-
stable were served with a pint of beer by her, for which they
paid her twopence. Shortly after that she served six glasses
of gin, and three pints of beer to the other men, and received
the money.
Mr. Solomon asked how witness and his companion were
dressed ?
He replied that they had smock frocks on, and looked
like countrymen. That was the only way such unlawful
practices could be detected. The beer they had was not
very strong. It was something like table beer.
Mr. Solomens asked him how he knew that it was gin he
saw served. Did he drink any or ..melt it ?

He replied that he did not, but he saw defendant receive
twopence a glass for it.
Police-constable 80 L confirmed last witness' testimony,
when Mr. Solomon said that he certainly could not contend
against the officers' testimony, but he was instructed to say
tint it was the first time his client bad sold beer or
spirits at any time. The fact was that some of the lodgers
induced her to supply them with a little table beer, which
she purchased on the previous day. He strongly con-
demned the practice of sending constables to coffee-shops,
dressed as countrymen, where they asked to be supplied
with articles they knew were unlawful for the parties to sell.
Constables ought to prevent crime being committed, and
not assist in its perpetration. That was the first time his
client had been summoned for such an offence, therefore he
hoded his worship would deal leniently with her.
Mr. Burcharn said that it could not be supposed that any
one like the defendant would be so foolish as to serve con-
stables dressed in their uniform with excisable liquors, and
they were perfectly justified in dressing as countrymen or
any other persons. to detect such parties as the defendant,
who broke the law, when the properly licensed houses
were compelled by law to be clo,ed. It was a robbery on
the licensed victuallers, and must be put a stop to. However,
as that was the first time she had been summoned, ha should
nflict a mitigated penalty of 40s. and costs, and he hoped
that would act as a warning to her for the future, as she
was liable to be fined £2O, which he should most certainly
inflict if she came before him again on such evidence:
CAUTION TO OMNIIIUS DRIVERS.—TIIC driver of one
of the General Company's Otnnihn,,os, No, 6,694, and
Martin the driver of 6,6.1'3, opposition vehicles, running
from the Kent-road to Islini.,Pton, were charged with racing
against each other in the public street.
Mr. T. Beard, of B:singball-street, appeared for the
first defendant.

Sergeant Coldman, 23 M, said that on Monday afternoon
be was on duty in the Old Kent-road when he saw the
defendants coming from the Nelson towards the Green Man
Gate. They appeared to be racing against each other, and
in 6,694 vehicie a lady wanted to alight, but the driver
drove on at a furious rate towards .the Swan where be
stopped, and she got out. The first defendant was in ad-
vance of the other, going at a rate of 10 miles an hour,
flourishing his whip over his head to challenge the other to
catch him, but the latter did not pass until the omnibus
stopped t r let the lady down at the Swan.
Mr. Beard contended that his client was not going at a
more splirate than usual in such a wide open road as the
Ken -ioa I, and he was not racing. He bad been a driver
on that road 30 years, and had only one complaint against
him during that time. He called—
The conductor, who said the driver was not racing, or
going at a furious rate, but he admitted going at 8 or 10
miles an hour.

The proceedings in the case were somewhat lengthy, but
the brief facts were these :—On Saturday, the 17th of last
month, Mrs. Caroline Bridges, the present complainant,
applied at this court for some assistance out of the poor-box
to enable her to bury her daughter, a girl of 14 years of age,
who died at Guy's Hospital from the effects of injurieswhich she
receive'? at the fire-work explosion in the Westminster-road.
The case appearing to be one deserving of sympathy, Mr.
Elliott ordered the applicant 101. from the poor-box, and
the fact of her application having been made public various
sums were forwarded to the parents of the deceased. Th•
prisoner, who, up to this time, was a perfect stranger to the
parties, came forward and proffered his services to assist In
collecting subscriptions for them ; and the fact of their
having been received led to the present charge. It appeared
that on the 19th of July (the nay on which the case ap-
peared in the newspapers), Mrs. Bridges, her husband, in
company with the prisoner's wife, were from home, and
during their absence a gentleman called at their house
who was observed to give some money to the
prisoner, and the latter was also observed to take two post
letters that were delivered there. For these two letters he
(the prisoner) had never accounted, but said he had received
one letter from a gentleman, which he bad lost, but whew
pressed on the subject he denied receiving any letter by
post, and the one he received from the gentleman he said
had been picked out of his pocket in the New-cut. The
complainant having ascertained that two letters had conic
by post, and that only one of them came into her hands,
a suspicion of dishonesty on the part of the prisoner was
created in her mind, and that led to the present inquiry.
Samuel Ayles, a letter carrier, deposed to having de-
livered a letter, addressed to Mrs. Bridges, at 43,
Duke-street, Westminster-road, between the hours of six
and seven o'clock on the evening of Monday, the 19th of
last month, but could not say the prisoner was the person
who took it in.

Mrs. Norfolk, a person living next door to Mrs. Bridges,
deposed that on Monday, the 19th of July, at about 12
o'clock, she saw a gentleman come up to the door of the
csmplainant and give something to the prisoner, who ran up
to answer him, and that something the prisoner put into his
pocket. She also saw the prisoner take two post letters from
two different postmen, the one between six and seven, and,
the other between eight and nine. He put them into hay
pocket and walked away with them.

This testimony was in some particulars corroborated, yet
Mr. Neale, for the defence, contended that there was
nothing to affect the character of his client, and declared the
whole proceeding a vile conspiracy against him.
Lockyer, one of the summoning officers, said that on
taking the prisoner to the station to have the charge en-
tered against him, and while the sergeant Wri taking the
charge, he (the prisoner) said, " I do not think that is the
postman who delivered the letter," upon which the sergeant
asked what it was he said, and the prisoner replied, " I re-
tract what I have said, and shall state what I have to say
before the magistrate."
Mr. Norton, in remanding the prisoner until Thurs-
day next, observed that it would aid the present inquiry
materially, and also promote the ends of justice, it the
writers of the letters forwarded by post to the complainant
at 43, Duke-street, 'Westminster-road, on the 19th of last
month, could be brought forward on the next examination.
This, he thought, might be accomplished by a request to
that effect being added to the report of the case, and if the
reporter would kindly notice the matter it doubtless would
have the desired effect.
The prisoner was then remanded, but was told that good
bail would be accepted for his appearance on Thursday next..

Mr. Combo said it was quite clear that he was driving at
a very furious rate, therefore, as a caution to others, he
should fine him 103. and costs, and Martin, who did not ap-
pear to be so bad, must pay the costs.

THAMES.—THE CITY DUES ON COALS.—Capt.
liam Wardle, master of the collier-ship Vanguard, appeared
before Mr. Selfe to answer an information exhibited by the
City Solicitor, which charged him with breaking bulk of his
cargo of coals before the City dues and charges were paid,
by which he had incurred a penalty not exceeding £25.
The defendant pleaded guilty to the information.
Mr. Stuckbury, solicitor, who conducted the prosecution
on the part of the Corporation of London, said that;:four
ships laden with coals had been consigned to the Northum-
berland and Durham Coal-wharf, Bow-creek, and that none
of the ships' names had been entered at the coal market, or
the dues paid, until proceedings for the recovery of penalties
bad been taken against the defendant and three ether mas-
ters of ships.
The defendant said the consignees of his cargo were Messrs.
Hunt and Wood, of the Northumberland and Durham
Wharf, and that he depended on the payment of the dues by
them, and took no trouble in the matter.
Mr. Stuckbnry said the captain was liable, and that he
had no right to break bulk until the dues were paid. The
defendant had been in the port of London several times, and
could not plead ignorance.of the law.
Capt. Wardle said it Wl`.4 the invariable custom for the
merchant to whom coals were consigned to pay the dues.
Mr. Stuckbury said it was the duty of the captain to pay
the dues. The law had imposed that task upon masters of
collier shipa. He was afraid there was an intention on the
part of the consignees of the cargo at the Northumberland
and Durham Wharf to avoid payment of the dues, and
he hoped that something more than a not penalty
would be inflicted.
Mr. Selfe said there had been very gross neglect, and
fined the defendant £5, which was immediately paid.
BURGLARY AND ROBBERY.—Frederick Shaw, aged
25, who refused to give his address and occupation, and
who has been long known as the associate of land and river
thieves, was brought before Mr. Selfe, charged with
burglariously breaking and entering the St. Andrew public-
house, Lower East Smithfield, and stealing therefrom a
silver-plated bread-basket, two mantles, a pound of tobacco,
and other articles.
It appeared from the evidence of Mr. Charles White, the
landlord of the St. Andrew, that his house abuts on the
river. On Thursday night, at 10 o'clock, the windows and
shutters of the rear of the premises overlooking the
river were closed in the usual manner. That morn-
ing, at three o'clock Mrs. White was disturbed
by some person moving about the house, and aroused
her husband, who also heard a noise on the stairs, and
upon looking through the glass window in his bedroom door
saw the prisoner, with a piece of lighted paper in his hand,
going down stairs. Mrs. White went to the window and
called " Police" as loud as she was able, and her husband
opened his bedroom door and ran down stairs, but could
not find the prisoner. Mr. White let In Police-sergeant
Marshall, :20 H, and Holly, 84 H, and proceeded to search
the house. Mr. White had previously seised the prisoner
in the dark in the kitchen, and held him fast until the
police arrived. A light having been procured, 30 letters
which had been taken from a drawer in the bar parlour were
found on the floor at the prisonfeet. Other letters
partially burnt were found in the hao:, and it seemed that
the prisoner had ignited lueifera and lighted up the land-
lord's correspondence to find his l over the house. Several
rooms in the occupation of ledgerssliy had been entered and
ransacked, but nothtitmnegofvittlr was discovered and nothing
a
taken away. An
a been made to enter Mr. and
Mrs. White's bedroom, in
I h
there was a good deal of
valuable properly, but that had failed. Two drawers and a
cupboard in the bar parlour and bar had been opened and
ransacked, and a plated bread-basket, two mantles, a pound
of tobacco. and other property,abstracted therefrom. On
police-sergeant Marshall asking the prisoner what he had
done with the stolen property, he replied that it was in a
boat on the river near the house. Marshall handed the
prisoner over to the care of Holly, 84 H, and went into a
boat five yards from the house, in which he found the
whole of the stolen property made up into a bundle, The

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LETTERS FOIL EGYPT.—Henceforward letters for
Suez, forwarded by British packet, either by way of Mar-
seilles, or by way of Southampton, may be sent unpaid or
paid to destination, at the option of the sender. The post-
age of a letter addressed to Suez is—Via Southampton, not
exceeding loz. Gd.; above ioz. and not exceeding loz., ls.;
above loz, and not exceeding 2ozs., 25.; and so on, adding
ls. for every additional ounce, or fraction of an ounce. Via
Marseilles, not exceeding loz., is.; above loz. and not ex-
ceeding oz., ls. 9d. ; above loz. and not iexceeding loz.,
2s, ; above loz. and not exceeding 1,10 z., 3s. 3d. ; above 14oz.
and not exceeding lloz. 3s. 6d.; above lloz. and not ex-
ceeding 3s. 91; above loz. and not exceeding 20z.,
4s. ; and so on, adding is. British postage, for every addi-
tional ounce or fraction of an ounce, and 3d. French postage,
for every additional quarter of an ounce.