The Sun.
London, England, 1858-03-23 00:00:00

OATHS BILL.

On the mot;on that the report be considered,
Mr. COCKBURN-, in the absence of Mr. Deasy,
moved the omission fro n clause 1 of the fAlowing words:
"And I do declare that no foreign prince, preht,e,
state, or potentate bath, or ought to have, any
jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence, or
authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, directly or in-
directly, within this realm. ' He moved the omis-
sion on the ground that the words were repugnant to
Roman Catholic members and unnecessary.
Mr. WALPOLE hoped the house would reject the
amendment. _ _

Lord J. RUSSELL wished to see one oath for all
members in that house, but he saw no possibility of such
a change being made at present
Mr. COLLINS supported the amendment.
Mr. M. GIBSON thought it was best not to ask for
too much at a time. He had n ) doubt if they passed
the bill they would ultimately give what all de-
sired. He thought it was enough for them now to
emancipate the Jews, and consider the Roman Catholic
grievances hereafter. He considered Roman Catholics
had the best of swearing in that house—(laughter)—and

he should be ready to compromise the three oaths he
and Protestants were called upon to take for the .one
taken by Roman Catholic members. Protestants were
calved on to al.jdra ti,e dt.scel.dants of James the First,
though it was well known that none existed ; but the
Roman Catholics were relieved of that grievance.
Mr. PALK called upon the house not to pass thil
bill. In the other house noble bolds refused the admit-
sion of a member on a life peerage as being contrary to
their privileges, and if the House of Commons had the
right of seating Baron Rothschild without altering the
forms of the oath, why did they fear to exercise that
right. It was a waste of time to go on trying to legislate
on this subject, and the best course the house could
pursue was to seat Baron R,,thschild by resolution, and
so preserve the Christianity of the house.
Mr. J. D. FITZGERA.LD said the question now
before the house was relative to the oath taken by
Roman Catholics, and he called upon the Government
to state their views on the motion before the house.
Rather than peril the admission of the Jews, be would
call on his friends not to support the amendment, but
believing that he should be advancing the cause of the
Roman Catholics, and not retarding the cause of the
Jews, be should support the amendment.
Mr. HORSMAN said the form of the oath was ob-
jectionable to Protestants. How could a Protestant swear
that the Pope did not exercise spiritual jurisdiction in
Inland ! Why, did not the hon. member for North
Warwickshire (Hr. Spooner) declare year after year that
the power of the Pope in Ireland was most dangerous.
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ttiotion a
the oaths,
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few days after, based on tit,h,,ef,re
was groat and dangerous in thi;,t
t' is inti gem nce of Parliament-o,:laitry.,.and
,i.itnavite,r,.
difference on the ground that the Popb.. .tilliAirini: the
n)t reco4nised by Jar. (Hear, hear, from Ur. Spt:sr. '
fa tale bill the wprds " directly or indirec ly " hadi);;,
impossible for any one to Flay
introduced, and
tv indirectly in this
inally imiosed to establish
country. The oath waq o _
intotweaxserricse authority
that the Pope did
I those days it could
iy different. n
the facts were now ve
t with morality and
the supremacy of the Crown in Elizabeth's time, but
be sworn, because it was consistent