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was a most unwise provision that the expensive ma- the principal Secretaries of State should take the place of
chinery of putting the Attorney-General in motion, to the Privy Council, in order that there might be some one
conduct the prosecutions under the act, should be re- responsible to the house for the appointments which might
sorted to. be made.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said there was a double Mr. PALK thought if they paid the medical officer
check—first, the discretion of the Court ; secondly, the
1,509/. a-year, the county was entitled to his exclusive
serces.
discretion of the Attorney-General. After further conversation,
Mr. AYRTON said his objection was that the prosecu- The clause, with amendments, was agreed to, as were
tion ought to be instituted in the same way as in the case of also the remaining clauses of the bill.
perjury in a court of law, when the judge ordered a pro- On the motion of Mr. ADDEttLEY, the following
secution, which was carried on in the ordinary way. clause was added to the bill :—Proceedings for penalties
The clause was then agreed to. under the act for the time being in force on the subject of
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said in case of a corn- vaccination may be taken on the complaint of any regis-
pulsory winding up the Court would be able to ascertain trar employed for the registration of births, deaths, and
by the bill whether the case was one fit for a public pro-
marriages, public vaccinator, or officer authorised by the
secution. But in a private winding up there would be
board of guardians or by the overseers respectively, and
the cost of such proceedings shall be defrayed out of the
only the private liquidator, who was the agent of the common fund of the union, or out of the poor rates of
shareholders. The discretion which they could not trust any parish not included in a union.
to private individuals, they might safely entrust to the The preamble of the bill was amended and passed
Court. through committee, and the helve resumed.
Mr. MALINS said the explanation of his learned JURIES (IRELAND) BILL.
friend did not appear to him satisfactory. L'quidators On the motion of Mr. WHITESIDE, the bill was read
ought not to have the power of rushing into prosecutions a second time.
at the expense of the unfortunate shareholders. The STANHOPE AND WOLSINGHAII RECTORIES
cumbrous expense and trouble they were obliged to re- BILL.
.
This bill passed through committee, and the house re-
sort to in the case of the British Bank, in which
10,0001. were spent, was a disgrace to the administra-
tion of justice. There ought to be some simple mode of
procedure.
Sir R. BETHELL observed that the prosecution of
the British Bank directors was instituted under the old
state of the law. Every step was taken under the con•
currence of a most eminent member of the present Go-
vernment, and every step was taken to ensure the con-
viction of the offenders. He thought the prosecution
ought only to be instituted with the consent of the
Court. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE thought liquidators ought
not to have the power of instituting prosecutions against
delinquent directors, for a colourable prosecution might
be got up and the guilty parties might escape. Neither
dial he think that the expense should be paid out of the
funds of the company. He thought it would be as well
if the clause were omitted.

TRANSFER OF LAND BILL.
Upon the order of the day for the second reading of this
bill,
Sir R. BETHELL said he would not delay the second
reading of the bill at this hour further than to observe
upon two circumstances—one, that in the other house of
legislature the bill had received the support of her Majesty's
Government ; and the other, that the principle of the bill
bad been so much discussed and so generally approved in
the bill brought in by the learned Attorney• General for
Ireland, that it was only necessary to apply the same prin-
ciple to the present measure. He should suggest therefore,
that the bill be read a second time pro forma, on the un-
derstanding that it be left to go into committee after the
committal of the Transfer of Lands Bill in Ireland.
Mr. WALPOLE thought it would be unadvisable to
follow the suggestion of the hon. and learned gentleman.
Ile would not discourage any attempt to facilitate the
transfer of land, but the bill which had come down from
the other house was materially different to those matters
mentioned by his hon. and learned friend. He thought
the Court of Chancery would not be a popular and good
tribunal for the referring these questions to.

Mr. ADAMS did not think such prolecutions ought
to he instituted without the consent of the Court.

The SOLICITOR GENERAL would propase in the
next stage of the bill that it should be lawful for the
Court to direct the liquidators to carry on a prosecu-
tion in the same manner as a commissioner under the
Bankruptcy Act.
On clause 21,
Sir R. BETHELL suggested that this clause should
be withdrawn.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, after explaining the
object of the clause, consented to its withdrawal.
The other clauses of the bill then passed through com-
mittee, and the house resumed.
WILLS, &c., OF BRITISH SUBJECTS ABROAD

The bill was read a second time.
THE GALWAY FREEMEN DISFRANCHISEMENT

BILL.

On the order for the adjourned debate being read,
Mr. CLIVE asked that a day for the discussion should
ba fixed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
Tuesday, the 29th inst., would be a good day ; at a morn-
ing sitting the whole matter might be fully discussed, if
the hon. and learned gentleman would assent to that sug-
gestion.
Mr. BRADY said the day fixed would be unsuitable to
Irish members, who would have to be absent at the assizes.
After objections against postponement urged by Mr. P.
O'BRIEN and Col. FRENCH,
Mr. CLIVE said he could only accept the day the Go-
vernmentlhad offered. He thought he had a public duty
to perform in this matter and a public discussion ought
to take place.
Mr. BUTT objected to the bill, and thought it would be
I quite impossible to make it consistent with justice. The
bill ought to be at once withdrawn, or an early day fixed
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BILL.
Upon the second reading of this bill,
Sir R. BETHELL said he thought his learnel friend
the Attorney-General agreed with him that it would be
inconvenient to take the discussion on this bill upon the
present occasion. He himself ,hould have to ask leave
of the house to introduce a bill founded upon a different
principle. The question was a moat important one, and
it was extremely desirable that England should not be
insular in its legislation. Upon the understanding, then,
that the discussion should come on on a future occasion,
he should consent to the bill being read a second time
pro forma.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, in the absence of
the Attorney-General, said he would consent to thls
arrangement on behalf of his hon. and learned friend.
The till was then read a second time.
COWLEY'S CHARITY BILL.—HARVEY'S
CHARITY BILL.
These bills were read a second time.
BRISTOL MUNICIPAL CHARITIES BILL.
Upon the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. ADAMS remarked upon the new principle of
introducing bills of this nature, and thought that all
these various matters ought to come on for considera•
tion together, and be embodied in one act.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that perhaps his
hon. friend was not aware that this was the only way in
which, according to the present state of the law, these
matters could be dealt with, and he was not sure that
his hon, friend's recommendation was a desirable one.
After a few words from Mr, BAINES,
The bill was read a second time.
THE CLERKS OF PETTY SESSIONS (IRE-
LAND BILL.
Lord NAAS moved the second reading of this bill.
Mr. BAGNVELL approved of the provisions of the
bill generally, but thought they would require amend-
ment in committee.
Mr. SULLIVAN also approved of the bill and
thought the noble lord the Chief Secretary deserved
great praise for the manner in which he had prepared it.
After a few words from Mr. BLAKE,
Mr. GREGORY thanked the noble lord for the man-
ner in which he had considered the whole question,
which had been for years a perpetual source of annoy-
ance. He had read the bill and generally approved of it.
Lord NAAS expressed great satisfaction at the re-
ception the bill had met with, and explained those
provisions which bad been objected to, and which could
be amended in committee. He hoped there would be
ample funds in the hands of the Irish Government for
the purposes of the act.
Mr. DE VERE congratulated the noble lord on the
success the bill had met with, and asked whether it
would be necessary to require an oath to be taken from
the clerks / If so, it ought to be framed in clear and
intelligible terms.
The bill was then read a second time.
THE CHANCERY PROCEDURE AMENDMENT
BILL.
The amendments of the Lords to this bill were con-
sidered and agreed to.
THE NISI PRIUS COURT (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. WHITESIDE moved the second reading of
this bill.
Mr. BAGWELL said the bill created a new office, to
which a salary was attached of 3001. a-year. He should
like some explanation as to the necessity of the office.
Mr. WHITESIDE said a new nisi prius court had
been established a short time since, and that no registrar
had been appointed to discharge the duties.
The bill was then read a second time.
DURHAM COUNTY PALATINE JURISDICTION
BILL.
The house went into committee on this bill.
Mr. A. SMITH objected to the extensive and arbi-
trary powers which it was sought to confer upon the
Crown under the provisions of the bill.
Mr. HAMILTON explained that the object of the bill
was merely to carry out an arrangement made in 1357,
between the Crown and the bishopric of Durham. The
sixth clause saved to all persons and bodies corporate
and politic the same rights which they had before the
bill, and there was therefore no aggression on the rights
of the public whatever.
The bill, as amended, then passed through committee,
and the house resumed.
PUBLIC HEALTH BILL.
Upon the motion for going into committee upon this
bill,

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upon which a full and fair discussion could be taken.
Lord LOVAINE recommended the hon. and learned
gentleman to:accept the day offered him by the Government
so that the session might not pass without adding the bill
to the statute-book.
Mr. G. A. HAMILTON said the bill came before the
house in a very inconvenient form. It would be better to
discharge the order for the adjourned debate on going into
committee, and then the discussion could be taken on the
simple question of going into committee.
Mr. MAGUIRE said he knew the object of those who
were the backers of the hon. and learned gentleman the
member for Hereford—that object was to make the
borough a pocket borough for one of the great landed
autocrats of the country. He was quite willing to accept
the issue offered by the Government, and Etlve a grand
" field day" on the 29th.
The debate was then adjourned until the 29th.
ROADS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The order for the second reading of this bill was dis-
charged, and the bill withdrawn.
COUNTY MANAGEMENT BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
INSURANCE AND ASSURANCE INSTITUTIONS

BILL.
Upon the motion of the adjourned debate on the second
reading of this bill.
Mr. G. A. HAMILTON said the bill involved such
portant interests that he trusted the hon. member would
not press the second reading during the present session;
in which case his right hon. friend (Mr. Sotherton•
Estcourt) would withdraw his amendment to the effect
that it be read a second lime that day six months.
Mr. SHERIDAN accepted the offer of her Majestys
Government, and withdrew his motion for the second
reading.
WILLS OF BRITISH SUBJECTS ABROAD.
Sir R. BETHELL obtained leave to bring in a bill to
amend the law in relation to the wills of British subjects
dying whilst resident abroad. He proposed the bill should
come on for discussion at the same time as the bill of th°
right hon. gentleman the Attorney-General.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE.
Sip R. BETHELL moved for leave to bang in a bill to
assist the administration of justice, by affording better
means for ascertaining the law of other countries in cases
where questions as to such law shall arise.
Leave was given to juts oduce the bill.
ART UNIONS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr. W. EWART obtained leave to bring in a bill to
amend the law for legalising art unions.
STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES, &c. LAW AMEND•
MENT.

Mr. HARDY obtained leave to bring in a bill to amend
the law concerning the powers of stipendiary magistrate'
and justices of the peace in certain cases.
RAILWAY AND CANAL LEGISLATION.
Upon the motion for the nomination of the following
select committee upon this subject, namely, Mr. HenlY.
Mr. Cardwell, Sir James Graham, Mr. Gladstone, Mr.
Lowe, Mr. Philip Pleydell Bouverie, Mr. Turner, Sir
Robert Ferguson, Mr. Wortley, Lord Robert Cecil, Mr•
Stephenson, Mr. Price, Mr. Westhead, Mr. Cowan, and
Col. Wilson Patten.
Col. FRENCH moved that the name of Mr. Bouverie be
omitted, in order to substitute that of Lord John Browne.
The west of Ireland, the hon. and gallant member o'ol
was very inadequately supplied with railways, and Lord
John Browns would represent its interests.
After some discussion the motion was negatived without
A division.
Col. FRENCH then moved the omission of Mr. Wortley'o
name, with the same object.
This motion was agreed to, and the name of Lord John
Browne was added accordingly.
The house then adjourned at twenty minutes past one
o'clock.

Mr. PALK objected to the indefinite character of the
bill, and expressed a doubt whether the dictatorial
powers which it conferred would, after all, be adequate
to deal with the emergencies which now and then arose
—such a state of things, for instance, as hon. gentlemen
had reason to regret in the present condition of the
Thames. (Hear.) There were clauses in the bill which
he thought were not required. They would create a
council of medical officers without any specific employ-
ment, but with large salaries. He should like to knew
what were the new duties which this council were to
perform. He objected most strongly to taking indefi-
nite powers under this act, which were not laid down
in any way whatever, and which he believed would open
the door to jobbery.
Mr. ADDERLEY said this bill was a very simple
and short measure to provide for the services of the
medical officers who would still remain when the general
Board of Health expired in November next. He trusted
the hon. gentleman would allow them to go into com-
mittee. The mein object was to provide for the emer-
gency of epidemic and contagious disorders.
The house then went into committee.
On clause 4,
Mr. JOSEPH LOCKE remarked that this bill was
about to make a very great change, by transferring the
powers under the bill from a board over which the house
had power to the Privy Council, over which the house
had no power. Re was not prepared to go on with the
bill, and in the absence of the hon. member for Fins -
bury, who had amendments on the paper, if the bill
were persisted in he would move that the chairman re-
port progress. Why, the power was given to the Privy
Council, and the power also of paying themselves sala-
ries too, and any amount of salary.
After a few words from Lord DuNceN and Mr. JACK-
SON to the same effect,
Mr. SOTHERON ESTCOURT said whatever might go
into the clause respecting salaries, he apprehended the
matter would still lie with tho house, and the house only.
It was important, however, that the Privy Council should
other persons if necessary,
have the power of employing
because it might so happen that an epidemic might break
out at the same moment in more places than one, and it
would be requisite that the Privy Council should have the
power of employing persons on the spot to give them ac-
curate information.
After a few words from Mr. P. O'BRIEN,
Mr. GILPIN said he should support the motion that
the Chairman should report progress.
Mr. MONSELL thought that at the root of the objec-
tion to this clause lay the idea that the medical officer was
of no use at all. It appear,d to him it would be better to
continuo the progress of the bill, which, though short,
was one of great importance.
Sir A. ELTON was of opinion that the house should go
on with this bill. When the bill was brought forward it
was sometimes stated to be too late, and sometimes too
early ; but he hoped the committee would now at ono°
proceed with the bill.
Viscount EBRINGTON said ho could not for one
moment think of contrasting the advantages to be derived
from the services of an officer of health, and the compara-
tively small cost of those services.
Mr. COX said the clause would perpetrate as nice a job
as he hail over known. As the motion for reporting pro-
gress had not been seconded, he would move that the
Chairman do now report progress.
The motion having been seconded, the committee
divided, when the motion was lost by 110 to 32.
Mr. WALPOLE thought there was some force in the
observations which bad been made as to the appointment
of medical officers. The Board of Health had now the
power to appoint, not simply a medical officer, but a
medical council. The powers under this act were more
limited. Ho thought it was most advisable to have some
medical officer on whom the Executive could rely. It was
objected that the latter part of the clause would enable
the Government to appoint several officers at a large sa-
lary—(hear) --and ho proposed to add some words to meet
tie difficulty.
Mr. JACKSON wished to know what was to be the
salary of the medical officer ?
Mr. W A L POL E---1,t,00/. a-year.
Lord DUNCAN said what they wanted was that one of

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Vans Agnew, Esq., of a daughter.
LINDLEY—On the 14th inst., at Peckham, Mrs. Robari
Lindley, of a son.
WORTLEY —On the 15th inst., at the Dowager Lady Well;
lock's, 29, Berkeley-square, the Hon. Mrs. James SO°
Wortley, of a daughter.
PLUMER—On the 16th inst.' at 64, Glocesterterraeet
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MARRIAGES.
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to Mary Eleanor, the youngest daughter of VY •1]
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Islington, suddenly, James Cox, Esq., calhier
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