The Sun.
London, England, 1867-09-12 00:00:00

7RA.DES' OU7RAGES COMMISSION.

SIXTH DAT.

MANCHESTER, Wednesday.
In opening the proceedings, Mr. Commissioner
Pickeringaskedif there was any one present with the
keys of the Manchester Union's box, but there was
no reply.
Thomas llarrison, having been cautioned that
without a full disclosure he would not have a certifi-
cate, said he is a carter now, and was no longer a
member of the Ashton Brickmakers' Union. Ceased
to be two years ago. Was a member 15 years. Had
been president and then treasurer. It was generally
discussed at meetings what should be done as to
destroying bricks. The president and secretary,
generally decided what should be done, and the
man who undertook the job decided the price. Ilad
ben president ten or a doz.;) tin: 2S. Was president
for half of 1861. 13ridgewood was secretary one
thr,a3 miuths during witness's presidency. The
most, witness ever . paid for one job was £l5. He
believed they paid £l5 for the job at Newton-wood

—the co-operative mills. John Ensor carried that
out, and made all the arrangements. Clifford's job
was in 186), and witness received a note from Kay
that he had done work at Staleybridge and Dukin-
field, and he paid him £23. lily was not of their
union. One Of those jobs was Clifford's, and the
other Blocksaye's. Did not know that Kay bad
done any other damage for them. It would be
entered as incidental expenses. He remembered
Rogers's job, and he paid Ensor, but did not recol-
lect the amount paid. It would be between £5 and
£l5. Did not know what was paid for the outrage
at Taylor's. Recollected reading what it was—that
the shed roof was burnt off, and bricks destroyed, but
did not remember paying for it. Remembered
Joseph Burlow's brickahed being fired. Could not
remember paying Ensor, for throwing needles
among the clay. Paid Hepwell £5 in consequence
of a note saying there had been a delegate meeting,
and that the landlord wanted his rent. Remem-
bered the night of Jump's murder. After the men
were taken up for that, subscriptions were obtained
from Liverpool, Sheffield, Stockport, and other
towns to defend them. There was an amalgamated
society at that time. Some unions send one, some.
two, and some three delegates.. He was a delegate.
They met at the Crown and Cushion, Manchester,
every six months, and while it lasted they were chiefly
engaged devising plans to make the union more
perfect, and to work it. Never heard any of the
plans for these outrages discussed at those meetings,
but if any member got into difficulty through such
outrages the Amalgamated Society would devise
means to help him. Jump's case was one of these
difficulties. Witness and John Barlow were dele-
gates to the St. Helen's Society to ask aid in that
affair. A meeting was held at St. Helen's, and he
attended the meeting and explained the case. He
knew of the outrage then, but he had a doubt at
the time if the men apprehended were the guilty
persons. He believed they afterwards received £lO
to £2O from St. Helen's. 1‘ as a delegate to Oldham
in:the same affair, and saw the president. They gave
us then and here £lO, and sent more afterwards—
not more than £5 or £lO. The next place they
went to was Stockport. They called a meeting,
and sent us £lO or £l5. Went to Birkenhead, and
the union called a council meeting, and received
about the same amount from them. Went to Liver-
pool, where they got about £3O. Went to Shef-
field and saw the president, a man named Stanley,
who :called a meeting and they gave £l5. The
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total amount subscribed might be nearly £4OO. At
Ashton themselres they made great levies, but he
did not know that they raised £lOO there. They
paid £2OO for the defence. The other portion of
the money went to " Big Johnny," who came to
him and asked if there was to be "a cure," which
meant getting Ensor and Gregory out of the coun-
try. Witness paid him £3O, and afterwards a second
£3O. He said he should want more. Witness asked
no questions what he had done, but understood

what it was for. He came afterwards and witness
paid him two sums of £2O. Witness paid the
first at the Crown and Cushion, and the second
at the club-house in Liverpool. All he ever got to
know of the man was that, he wai employed about
the docks, and `that he was afterwards transported
for stealing wheat. " Big Johnny" said he had
made Ensor and Gregory " right" when he had
received £lOO. He required more money for Toole
and Ryan to make them " safe," and when he had
done it two more 30's and two more 20's were given
for that, making £2OO in all. There might be
other applications to the Unions mentioned, but
did not remember them. Remembered hearing of
the Reddish outrage, near Stockport, and his society
gave £lO towards the defence of the men who beat
Wild. The payment of the money collected
was intrusted to witness and Barlow. Would
swear that he never saw " Big Johnny"
before he came for the money. He had
happened to draw £3O not knowing Johnny
would come, but Johnny seemed to know that he
had drawn it. Drew the money at Manchester, and
the man came and said the men had been made
secure, and he paid him.
By Mr. Chance—When he drew the money at
the Manchester clubhouse some one remarked that
he would soon have to part with it, so when "Big
Johnny" asked him for the money he was prepared.
" Big Johnny" was tried at Liverpool four or five
years ago, and was transported. His right name was
something like John Haley, and he " favert" to be
an Irishman.
James Kershaw sworn--Is a brickmaker, and a
member of the Manchester Union. Is the president,
and Henry Grieve is the secretary. Had possession
of the keys on Monday night, and the officer of the
court might have had them if he had not taken the
box forcibly away, and they gave up the keys to
their legal adviser. The keys belonged to the six
keyholders. They would have given the officers
anything out of the box, but for what they thought
an outrage in taking the box away. He threw the
two keys he had on the floor. Did not know who
picked them up, on bis oath, and if he had really
said he had turned them over to his legal adviser he
had made a mistake. He understood their legal
adviser told them to throw their keys away. There
would be £6 or £8 in one of the boxes, and the

regalia.
Mr. Pickering—Was that finery ?—Yes, there
was a flag or two, a wooden sword, and an old wig
or two. (Laughter.) *Another box contained the
cash-book and minute-book. Had no objection to
the box being broken operi.
Mr. W. P. Roberts, solicitor (to witness)--You
don't want the box broken open ?
Mr. Pickering—You must not speak to the wit-
ness. I beg. you will understand that distinctly.
We must have the rules of the Court observed.
Witness further said he had seen it noticed in the
paper that the boxes would be broken open if the
keys were not produced to-day.
Mr. Roberts said witness could not give leave to
open the box. It belonged to a society, of which
he was a member only.
The inquiry was then adjourned.

LIVERPOOL COTTON MARKE7—This Day

Market opens with fair inquiry at yesterday's
rates. Sales probably 10,000 bales.

THE EMPEROR NAPOLEON.—Yesterday a tablet
was inserted iu the front of the hous,., No. 3, King-street,
St. James's-square, by Madame Berti, to denote that the
Emperor Napoleon lived there while in this country. The
inscription is as follows :—" Napoleon 111. lived here,
1848."

With reference to the • statement in the Liberte
that the Sultan has granted the English Government per-
mission to enlist volunteers in Arabia for the Abyssinian
Expedition, we are authorised to say that r.o such permis-
sion has been applied for by her Majesty's Government.
LOST IN TILE LONDOS.—John Carder, a ferryman,
picked up in Exmouth harbour on Sunday a bottle con-
taining a tailor's bill, on the back of which was written—
"Lost in the ship London —Francis Day. Advertise to
my friends that I have .£3,000 in the London and West-
minster Bank." The paper was . immediately handed to
Mr. Matthews, the collector of customs. The ship Lon-
don, it will be remembered, was lost in the Bay of Biscay
on the 11th January, 1866. Western Morning Neu's.
Ihe course of exchange at New York on_London for bills
at 60 days' sight is abotit idsil per cent. At this rate there
is no profit on the importation 9f gold tr9r4 the United
States,