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• issued to-morrow. The right hon. gentleman concluded
by moving the vote.
Mr. W. E WART regretted that the right hon. gentleman
had not taken a larger view of the subject. He thought
that a minister of education ought to place before the
house a general view of the question, not only with regard
to schools, but with respect to the manner and habits,
and effects of school education on the people. In Scotland
long hereditary teaching had shown the people the value
of education. It was now a part of their nature and
habits, and he trusted that it would soon produce the
same effect in this country.
Mr. GILPIN differed from the right hon. gentleman in
they declaration that no man altogethe:depended at present
on the voluntary system.' (Hear, hear.) Seeing that the
grant was annually increasing, and extending throughout
the length and breadth of e land, and placing in the
hands of one department an immense amount of patronage, Alf
he thought it high time for the house to look carefully into
the question in order to ascertain how far the sums voted
carried out the views and intentions of Parliament. One,
of the most important lessons that the working classes, and
all classes had to learn was, that it was their duty to edu•
cats their own children. (Hear.) He di. • think it
could be said that the voluntary princi . f.
Without Government aid much had been don:, and mash
would be done by voluntary efforts, and the danger wasthat Government aid,would supersede those efforts. (Fleay.)
Mr. PULLER said it was a great advantage to have a
body of educated teachers in the country, and their efforts
were tellinz, not only in the large towns but in the agricul-
tural parishes.
Mr. MASSEY complained of the withdrawal of the
capitation grant from the ragged schools. The minute Of
council of last December reduced the grant from 50s. to
ss. each child, and the result had Leen most injurious to
these schools.
Mr. FOX agreed with the hon. gentleman who had just
spoken, that the class of persons to whom he referred stood
most in need of the fostering hand of those who had the
disposal of the public money.
Mr. POWELL expressed the opinion that the with-
drawal of the capitation grant from the ragged schools
would be a great hardship ; many of those schools had
been founded on the faith of the minute, and it would be
' a breach of geed faith now to withdraw the grants.
Mr. LO WE said it seemed to be generally assumed that
all which could be done was effected if they provided the
poor with the means of education ; if they did not choose
to avail themselves of these means the state could do no-
thing more. He, however, was rather disposed to agree
with the honourable member for Oldham, that the
government could do more indirectly than directly for the
encouragement of education. They should establish prizes
numerous and valuable in their eyes. The government
could do a great deal in this way, by throwing open some
situations, such as messengers, or Post-office letter carriers,
to those who passed the best examination. If it was found
that a boy, by coming up to a certain standard, could
obtain a provision for life, the impulse given to education
would not be confined to him or to his competitors, but
the feeling in favor of it would be raised amongst all the
lower classes. Public companies having large establish-
ments could also aid in this way. When the lower classes
acquired a taste for anything they did not require a
government machinery to provide it. The government
did not need to provide the means of gratifying their
taste for beer; if they had the same taste for education
they would soon have the means of gratifying it, and the
great object of the house and government should be to ex-
cite that taste.
Mr. BLACK objected to the principle of the present
system, which was entirely sectarian. He begged to move
tLat the vote be reduced by 14,7511., the increase in Scot-
land, as he wished to prevent the further extension of the
system.
Mr. INGHAM considered that the vote fell short of what
the country required. The working classes themselves were
most anxious on the subject, and when the committee sat
some time since to inquire into the condition of the norther/1
mining districts, a proposal was made on behalf of the
workmen that there should be a twopenny school rate and
compulsory attendance until children reached the age
of
Mr. COWPER said he could hardly believe that Mr.
Black's demand for the exemption of Scotland from the
benefit of the vote had been made in concert with other
Scotch members. He (Mr. Cowper) objected to any part
of the vote being spent in training teachers ; it ought all
to be spent in tuition.
Mr. BLACKBURN said that the objection of Mr. Black
to the mode of distributing the grants in Scotland applied
to the whole of the grants. He hoped the amendment
world not be pressed.
Mr. ADDERLEY said there was no such vote as the one
which the amendment professed to refer to.
Mr. BLACK altered the form of his amendment, and
proposed a eaduction of the whole vote by 14,7511.
Mr. BARROW spoke in favour of ragged schools as
against means of diminishing crime.
The amendment was withdrawn.
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress.
UNIVERSITIES' OTLAND) BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of(SC the EXCHEQUER said he
proposed that this bill should go into committee on Friday.
SALE AND TRANSFER OF LANDS (IRELAND)
BILL.
The house then went into committee on this bill ; but
Serjeant DEASY and Mr. M MAHON having objected to its
being proceeded with at that hour (half-past 11), with the
concurrence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer the house
immediately resumed.
The Durham County Palatine Jurisdiction Bill was read
a third time and passed.
The Nisi Prius Court (Ireland) Bill passed through coin'
raittee.
The Vaccination (Ireland) Bill was committed pro forma
to introduce amendments.
The Copyright of Designs Bill was read a second time.
The Stipendiary Magistrates, &c., Bill was read a second
time.
The Joint-stock Companies Acts Amendment Bill was
read a third time and passed.
PORTEN DIC AND ALBREDA CONVENTION BILL.
Sir E. B. LYTTON, in moving the second reading of
this bill, explained that its object was to enable the Go-
vernment to carry out a convention which had been made
in 1853 with France, on the subject of the navigation of
the river Gambia.
The bill was read a second time accordingly.
The Cowley's Charity Bill was considered as amended.
The Harvey's Charity Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The Bristol Municipal Charities Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The Bristol St. Nicholas and St. Leonard's Charities Bill
was read a third time and passed.
The Art Unions Act Amendment Bill was read a second
time.
The Publie Grounds and Playgrounds Bill was read *
third time and passed.
The Jointsetock Banking Companies Bill was considered
as amended..
MR. BR'S CMMITTE.
The committee toA consißßEder the case of MrE. Barber, and
the question whether he should receive compensation, wail
nominated.
Mr. S. WORTLEY, however, protested against the
principle of awarding compensation under such circum•
stances, as he thought it was likely to be a precedent which
would lead to great inconvenience.
The other orders of the day were disposed of, and the
house a, journed at half-past 12.

Country Flarket3.

CHELMSFO_
Our market this morning w
a limited business was done.
Wheat, white old, per s. 8.
qr.4o 48 Oats, per qr 24 31
new.... 40 48 Pea; Partridge 43 41
old 37 44 White 40 42
new.... 36 41 Boiling 4l 41
Barley 34 40 Dun 43 4g
Chevalier 38 44 Beans, Tick 37 3?
Grinding ..........28 32 Harrow ticks 37 4„'
Malt 70 73 Mazagan 34 3,,i
Chevalier 72 73 Ditto, new... 34 Si

tD—JuNE 18.
,as fairly attended, and onif

red,

NORWICH—JuNE 19.
A fair supply of wheat, but the trade was dull, at about
14 to 2s uod,r List week's rates. Barley firm. Other
articles difficult to quit.

COLCHESTER— JUNE 19.
There was a small supply of English wheat, and the late
rates maintained.

Prices to-day were as follow :—Wheat, white, 463 to 503;
rod, 42s to 465; barley, —s to s ; oats, `63 to 303 ; bean?.
Mazagau, 38s to 404 ; middle and small, 42s to 443; pea?,
white, 42s to 44s ; grey, 44s to 465.

Official Statoment of the Qua:JAW
in tho port of London, from t]
jun° 14 to June 19, both inch

Les of Corn, tze
ie following pi
sive.

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