The Sun.
London, England, 1803-08-03 00:00:00

stated in that Paper which he never .uttered. ►
It was there stated,that he acid he was not for defend_
ing this Country against the French, , IFIc said no
such thing ; and that he had. said, that the Fleet; on
which tins Country depended, wotild not thew its
obedience, or had no motive to, chew its obedience.
He said no such thing. He w;10,1 state, as nearly
as he could call to memory what he said on that mat.
ter, and by which he would ahide as his sentiment
—That the most effectual mode of securing. this
Country against a foreign invader, was by defend.
ing the rights of the people at home; and he ,had
no hesitation in saying, and in bringing it forward
as a charge against the late Administration, that •
they had broken the spirit of Englishmen, and had
fastened on them a yoke at home which prepared
them to receive a foreign one.—He was speaking
to Independent Englishmen, and he was not afraid
of :reproach. He'stood in a condition, in which
in the present critical situation of the Country,
he ought to speak MO. mind, and which he would
do at all risks and hazard., (and they were not
small.) He would declare his opinion,to the Coun.
try :—There might be a difference of , opinion be.
tween. him and a great portion of his Contituents,
as to the conduct of the late Administration, but
he thought that condutt most injurious to this
Country in many instances he had pointed out.—
He thought- their condud had brought on a nati.
anal disaster lie had pointedout in what purlieu.
faro, :and tic hadpoiuted out what appeared, to him to
be the means of relief to the Country from its
vending danger. With resped to the rand, objet,
of the. force of this Country being ereanally em.
played, if he might he allowed to speak for himself,
1w might say, that he was much interested in the
energy of this Country, and in a free Nation he was
convinced that eneagy would be invincible ; but he
had said, and he repeated, that in order to produce
that etrett, we must haVe recourse to the measures

adopted by ciur folefathers, and such measures he
tad .no doubt would bring ate out of our difficulties,
and lead us even to triumph, in the unparalleled
atruggle in which we were ingeged. He agreed in
me point with those who disapproved of his gene.
lentiintrits, that it was nectesiny to unite all
Englishmen its one canonise spitit of Defence of this
lehteion, and he would tell them the means of ac.
eortylishing that object ; of putting our force into
adiere,:end of efrettually securing us aainst foreign
attack : he had said it alreedy, but he had been must
grossly libelled—did he say to Englishman, Do
not defend your Country ?" He said, and he now
Teivated it, 41 Give us our Country to defend, .and
then we will proceed with one heart and one hand."
As to What had been reported in the-Paper alluded
to as having been said by him upon the subject of
the Fleet, it was a misrepresentation so contempti.
ble, that it was scarcely worth while fin him to
deny it. What he did say upon thn subjed was,
that a man was a creature who died from motives,
and that if we wanted great exertions, here must
be strong motives to call them into action. lie
said, that when Government felt itself under
cultic:l, they held out fair advantages, v4114:1) they
did not realize. He should not have obtruded
himself on the Company, if he had not been called
upon by whatwae stated by the werthy Alderman.
lie (owned he had rather have rrinaneel silent, for
be was not come there to speik, out tether to beer,
and to receive instrktion from his constituents ;
but now that he had been called upon to titeate
his sentiments, lie would do so explicitly, however
unpalatable they m'glit happen to he to a majority
of his bearers, It was said, that part of what he
uttered, on the occasion alluded to by thieworthy
Aldetnem, had tended to a Mutiny in the Fleet : he
intended to produce no such died : what he had
:said was, that when the sailers were called upon
as one body to exert themselves in behalf of
their Country, advantages were held out to them
which were not realized. Ministers said, " they
had the people on their side now," he said he rejoiced
at it, and if they had not, he would point nut to
them the means by which they would, obtain the
people—nothing would be more painful to him than
the apprehension that he had incurred the censure,
or even the disapprobation of any part of his Con.
atituente, but he could not help deliveriogehis senti.
write as they were,. whatever might be the con.
tequencel—They had not the sense imputed to them,
leleOtciting mutiny or of abating of the energy of
out:Juice against the enemy, if he thought they
bad, he would be the first to remit.' them—He
wanted to remind Mipisters of the effeft of being
too secure. He alluded to the present unhappy state
of Ireland— He asked if any one who- knew that
Country, or ought to know it, anti to know the
&tee of it,
,would came forward and fairly tell the
Public of that state, or to caution Government upon
it, so a, to induce them to take measures for the SC.
eurity oldest pert of the Empire, in which he alledged
rims
of fool been great remissness. These were s
of which he had often thought, and they gave him
juin to think of them, and he had expressed his
thoughts freely, but they bed been misrepresented.
in a word, his sentiment was this, arid he hoped
there was but one with upon it. That we *hoot('
reither.be matle to submit to a Foreign Enemy, nor
to have our Rights invaded at home. The Address
be had heard read, he was ready to approve of it, hut
when it spoke of the Constitution of this Country, he
must in that. part of it be understood to assent to the
Address as It referred to the old Constitution of
England, not at all approving of the late innovations
upon it, arid which it hail always been the (Nett of
his political life to opilobe. He alledged teat he
never entertained any sentiment hostile to the in.
terest of his Country as it appeared to bins ; but he
eon most adheie to all the principles he had ad.
vanced upon the subjdt of abuses of our freedom at
home, .and he did think that circumstanced impe.
riou,ly called upon us to at upon them. •
Mr, Alderman CIATIS said, he was glad of
having been the means of affording to the Hon. fia.
ronet an Opportunity of explaining himself upon the
present, occasion ; and he was gled also that the
Hon. Baronet
.had bait heard throughout, for every
body ought to be heard, whatever he had to say. He
had paid much attention to what the wort by
'imit had said ; and as 10 what lie had said ,d,;„),
the saihiri, of their having'had promises held out to'