The Sun.
London, England, 1804-12-28 00:00:00

.POLICE.

• UNIGN . Yesterday two men were
brought before the Magistrates, who were ap-pre_
handed the preceding night, eliargetton suspicion of
having committed a number of felonies and burglaries
A very long examination took place.; the result was '
.aconitnittal for a further examination, that the parties
robbed may hare an oppoituni,y to attend.
MAtisints.Hoose. Yesterday a porter to a
wholesale groceuin Leadenlialt.street, was charged
before .the Lord Mayor with having robbed his
roaster of a quantity of ICI and other groceries.
The Prisoner said nothing in. his defence, and was •
fully committed to take his trial.

M AIL LDO RutIGII-STR BET. w Yesterday business
of a curious nature.occupied theattention of the Sit.

ting Magistrates a considerable time. Gosling arid,
Spencer, beadles, of St. •Ann's -Parish, charged a
Serjeant in, the r4th Regiment of Light Dragoons
with Violently assaulting and. beating ,an. unknown
Pierson, iu Compton-street: • It WA'S stated by the..
Officers, that they took the Defendant into custody
in consequence of his having beaten alperson in the
street, assisted;by others, and creating an iMmense.
mob. On the Serjeant being put on his defence, the
thargeleok 71, very different .turn, • the fact being as
follows.: The Defendant was sent with Dispatclies
to Lieutenant Colonel 1-Imvicut, the Officer co rp.
mantling the Regiment, and on his- way to the Co, -
lord's lodgings, he saw
,a person whom he knew ca.,
he a #.leserter.. front the' !flit Regiment., of Foot. The
fellow took tollis heels, and the Defandantoyhn was ,
enable to head him, kept striking hiin with a stick,.
and as he ran, and cried, " Stop thief, a despot-1;i';
A considerable inob was assembled, and the Beadles •
interfered, andinsiced on taking the
the Watch.house, for, ossaulting the.detealer. rti,t
Serjeant informed them) that he was, sfctiti: g • .± de.
serter, behaving him at That time, Sate in Ma Hoccr.
The Officers, however, insisted, that the "1.-.);:e.. ;(,r
tadCornrmittetl a breach of the peace, awl iota
to St. Ann's Warch.liouse, without paying any
spat lohis protestations, or the deserter,. who
feded his escape.,
Lieut,.Col. HAWKER and Cornet Kt4to'wr, of
same Regiment, accidentally were passing near, and.
witnessed, the transaction, While the beadles had
the Defendant in custody, who at-the same moment '•
had hold of the deserter, Cornet K. without making, s
himself known to them, requestect of the Beadles
that they -would first .secure the deserter, and in
that cases the defendant's con4ud, would have a le..
gal investig4tior,. They, however,,,.took no nOtice.
of his remonstrance, ,but conveyed„awity,the Serjeant
from his-Prispixt„
The Magistrate remarked, that '•ii was
.tlie t'uty
of Off eeriao Fu1.1);,...55, as -much as
,possirtc, any, kinsi
of diSorder and .riot irr thesyeet ; it, Wei
.
their duty to secure the person or. ,pe,rsons who app
peared so them the aggressors, and bring
,thi!rn
fore a Magistrate, as it WaS,piatiOr.tileM to &tide. t
was also .every ,ntart's daty to secure tle7 ter, :,,;(17-
they.had.aelekl wrung tioycialiit).
ledge that such was the cass,pluan the Defp'idaor„i,ni'
the men, in custody...-. flo, g4i4CCol., 11 AIvK 1! 1114
veit-Wtrer':o,lf: IlioPietssit:,:ie,
5):
by lt"fi
they woullbe to he found.
.;,,WlAgfri,e:trreotp4),
his .determination to that .40.; an' k.,
(:.
his
will,. of. course, be, heard ,

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CAV .N4V,r7 f\' :: °kg) g Tantiptllolo24..3p, Wei° ytytt
8"Me0 M.,..41' A arm di "lic,p 5F,,,,and sornetimes,,,
at anotliitiii,„liut.iii gelicr.d at Cptign,iri S.)lrte,p,e.:
shire, tall lit e :1.,1t.i-, 41.1.1 114 113;i 4 1.1L11,:3 ',lV,,ltr;;l.o':''
ha Se egao4Tlji.Z. ,iA the (3.4 Y .1171f.:404 ‘Ji. 4 1.)t) I
tiros CP rii4it. tin N.,,,t.iptgini , traroaoiftrfl ,it. a(1,1 iii, ~,,131
t he. trye! r.,ii.,,lii, . An►l. more pa I' t..A.9ll:frkoo pa/tic:n.4
,',,
~,,i inr,ke,l,,t,,, With
,the„,f4trker he rims a'l.4.',.'sy ','
reckoning !iiiid..,r all the -,asystimv;ion of an kr.,/ert
young farmer ; re,ils then litt,),lero,es,, stand at: thi'
George, .f\ inhury ; ifieipptge, Drury.i„,,, ; .
and teve.k4i,piller storiFa, ,all„ct'inally true. "l'he
horses are.hortowed from livery ,stabl,,' kr,retS, cilAt .
kept close .tiii fur the purpiszs of ticcepjon. To
01hervlle Pretc",dB he, has got as ;.ci,:c.,l :at ("ten or
sheep, collie- uir to his salesman .at 4(ent isli Tolvn, to
sell at, Smithfield next market day;, but in the, sheen
time, that helias, to pay ,a,Suitt ot money for articles
rhe olttstser4
,i.lown by the waggon
,or the camil '
barges tilat day -77.1 n Oils ‘v,ay,he Peas .gulled several '
,persons to lend him cash ul various sums, fr 014.51.
to aol. Various, have been his manoeuvres in. this
way, itt the cpurse,,of urhicl lie boll,'i)jOceil np,Con_
sidcrable stima:,. i-iis labt,,leeit.ja to,l,.;was the -5e11...;
ing.two ton 01chet4e to it, trade-man pighelici,,who
miyanced ;um on.it,a ,11.111 ttir.,5:111,1.711 §d. hut, Itie,t'
;,,,
•s“ either cheete or farmer atterwards. 'So yariona:,
anti; intricio te -Nye been. bis err , ji, ,h,„, 1,, I,a, 4i.:,
trAtteg the notice of the.'l)Olice, flicers, who art. on
~ Op. WA out .after 1111117-and we, .ope ttey will ;on
4,r
meet with hits, that he may, receive the puniAlincta,
ctile to his deserts. . .i.
..„. . , , -. •
Mr: EArrt.mcr, COrOtier for Plymouth, has held
an ingnest-on the'lr,idy of•Mrd. GI; P. 9 a 61.1., wife-c'-
Mr.GR t it u € 1. t., Printer,whn was found (melancholy -
tn,relate) burnt and stifibcated .to.deatb,' by her all.
Aided husband; ten his- return from -very atlive ex...
ert ions at the dreadful. lire at. Mr. NO.It/t/NOTON'it,
Market, place. ; it is luppised the candle caught.her
cap.and•liandkt'rchief, 'while she was asleep near a
• table. Verdiet..—"' Paula burnt to de tii di."
As tWo PhilcAophic Gentlemen 'belonging to a
club at the. 'Nest End of the .Town were talking
..very learneTy the bthe'r everiing, about the no
uctrc needle and the ethtre ofgreiv;ty,. it iititilrAirotb.i
menrber not a little discompo3d client, by .ailing
" Jib the magnetic necdlts tr,iiinittl:due'Noi-th,antil
eiarre lay *the centre of g‘ravtty ?" "K'tilence en.i
stied." -"'N'Ow`," added :the metibetvit I kotil'll
magnetic needle in the British -.tn ttropolig that
prints due East, ,and to A centre*rf gririty, IQO.'
" Ay, ay," replied one of the. philtisophe ti, %arras.
.
tieui4y, " your ciatre, of/ griairy lies in Leader/4\411
street." " No, nc.),"cried, his tiiiailant, ''butio
a street where them: is ii'gfidit•illil Called Coopers'
/14/ ;—there Fistrune's Ot Inetie needle ,point, I"'''''
there a *centre—of! gravity., rif Tens and Twenty
Thousands of POunda-4iterling I. The-. Glorious
LOTTEItYi in short, Which 6444 - proves so univer.
sally attractive turd so . wei4hty in Capital Prizes I

GUARDIANSIIIP

OF 'MR GRAND-CHTE,DRPN OF THE SOVEREIGNS

OF OR LAT fIRITAIN.

Tr is with extreme regret that we have seen
a Question of such imporraec, discussed in the
Public Prints with so lithe delicacy, and decided
upon with so much corfi knee. Violent Party
Spirit is alway, to he lamented, hut never more
than when it leads men to misinterpret and
pervert the Laws to answer the purpose, of the
day. If they succeed, the triumph is but tempo.
rary, while the mischieft that result from it are
permanent and incalettlable. if the Question to
which we have alluded is to be discussed, we, wish
• to see it investigated in, and decided by, those
Tribunals which are invested by the Constitution
with the neoetary powers. As, however, the opi-
nions of the Judges upon this point in the Reign
of Großce I. have been referred to, and consi-
dered as decisive upon the subjefl, we are happy to
have it -in our power to lay an AbstriCt of those
°pillions before our Readers. The Question re.
ferred to the judges, by order of His Majesty, was,
Whether the education and the care of the Per.
sons of His I\itijesty'a Grand-children" now in Eng.
kind, and of Prince Frederick, eldest Son of ,His
Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, 'when His
Majesty shall think fit to cause him to come into
England, and the ordering the place of their abodt,
and iipoointing their. Governors and Governesfes,and
other Instrullors, Attendants, and Servants, and the
care and approbation of their marriages, when grown
up, belongs to His Majesty, as King of this Realm,
•r not
Baron Fnerescue Aland, who had been Solicitor.
General to the then Prince of Wales, begin by de.
liverito; It as his opinion, that if the King had the
martiage of his grant .hildren, of. necessary conse.
qnsnee he had their education too. He considers
the Oubjeft as a )141, p-blicatn,quod ad swam
argues'u that the chit.
dren and grand ehildren of the Royal Family are
Princes of the Nation,:and the Prince of Wales one
and the same person with the King. " It follows
(he adds) as a Just corollary and consequence, that
the King, who ha. the r%ecutive power him, is
to have the care and command in the marriage's of
these children for the good of the whole Nation."
He had befOre argued, that the marriages of these
children implied also the previons care of _their
education. After' citing several cases from the
time of Henry IV, to George I. a period of 500
years almost, to prove 'that the King had the con.
truul of the marriages of the Royal Family, he
proceeds to the Second part of the question, the
care and education of the children. He says, the
reason given by my Lord Coke, why, the Queen
Ddwager may not marry without the King's leave,
catitalibus inimicis regis marilentar---M NOW
(he adds) the reason for the King's having the ward-
ship of his grand-children, and the education too,
is atroriger, viz. lest the Heir of the Crown him.
self be led aside by' 311 principles and bad politics ;
marriage is one of the main ends of the education, and
that etbication is a principal qualification for that
onariage, 'and therefore can never be so properly
placidas with him who has the marriage."—Vide 6.
tr. 6,2. vol. p. " Besides, these two powers,
if placed in different persons, may, clash and be re.
pugnant ; for which of them is to determine when
the
.Marriage is to begin, and to whom', and when
the education is. to end., Again, if the King has
the marriage, he has the appointment of the time
of that marriage, and consequently lie can at any
'time appoiot it ; anti he that can at any,time ap.
Om the marriage, can at any time call for the
custody of that person'; and he that can at any time
demand the person nut of the custody of another,
has the entire power over that person." He pro.
Ceedi to say, " Now, I think education is of greater
consequence than marriage, both to the person aod
to the people of England.. To the person, because
irhe 1$ bred either in the Popish religion, or is
trained up in any-commtioion, throigh Protestant,
eicept the Church of England, he is not capable of
feigning ; and if bred- up in arbitrary principles,
incorlsistent with a limited Monarchy, the whole
raiirm will then be in dangers whereas an ill.chosen
'match will'only be the most uneasy to the Prince
that Marrieo and will little iiff:l; the State, so long
as the Prince is steady, and adheres to the Coma.
tattoo." ,
itarori Moon:le-agreed with Fortescue, but gave
his opinion less at. length: He said, " If you secure
the Crown, thesiling must have the education ; and
au the children or the Crown will be bred up ac.
rordingly, and thildren do include grand.chilthen
no doubt."
fuatice Pratt thought, that " as to, the education
of the children anti grand.children of the Royal /4.
'idly, that it iso natural anti necessary consequence,
that if the Crown has the marriage of the Royal.
Family, it bath the care of their education : the
King having the end; should have the means,','..
Justice Eyre, the dissentient, delivered his opi_
scion next. He cited the'case of .Edward. the Black
Prince having the governance and education of his
son Richard—and relied much upon the Case
Edward the VtIO where sit was not pretended nor
thought of that the Kit)g had this right. On 'the
whole he seemed. to consider that the relations of
father, son, and grandeur', were the same in the
Royal Family as in,the family, of a private indivi.
dual.
But jostice D ,rmer answered, that as tea' that eaie;
what the Queen said in the aaneloary argued no.
thing; besides she did deliver up her ten at last.
There were, be added, many fats, records, and
instances out of lto,hwoith, and other books, Which
amount to usage syitlrsuch a constancy, ?tinA,o tt
taw, and give) this prerogative to the King,
Baron Price, the BeC,,ral dissentient Judge, deli.
tiered his opinion after justice Dormer. .
nion is brief : it coincides with that of Eyre, but
relates chiefly to the marriage of the Royal
Justice Tracy.oo," We cannot exited, Like in.
stances in education as in marriage, because these
are transatled with' other persona, with Princes,
tool of the greatest quality abroad, and beyond sea,

•
and are tek be made public; but Atreaints abottt
education are of a private nature, anti not 1 kely to
he transmitted beyond sea. Of latter times we
have them in Spanish matches, as in .the article of
the Prince of Wales himself. The case of the Duke .
of Gloucester is ditedly in pOint, and 'which I rely
upon.' King William named all his servants by his
own authority, without any nwice ro any body; so
the supposed consent his no proof nor probability.
The very address to the King supposes he had a
right."
Justices Blencow and Powis were for the right,
Chief Baron Bury said, as to education, so many
instances cannot he expeled as in marriages,, he.
Cause it has seldom happened that theie are grand.
children in the Royal Family. The case of the
Duke of York's children is strong; the King claim.
ed it as a right, and made the contract, and the
Duke gave it up.-1 own I did not think that so
many preCedents could he found as are here pro.
duced, both as to marriage and education too."
• Lord‘ Chief Justice Parker and Lord Chief Jus.
lice King were also for the right. The latter
said, " as to education, so many instances of mar-
riage is a good argument for education too. In
the next place, this is not a guardianship by tenure,
so is nor within t a Car. 11. And if there be a
guardianship by prerogative, as this is, it could not •
he within that Statute, which shews, that this
could. not come in question in Westminster Hall, or
our Law Books : we can learn it no otherwise
than by .fads and Usage. You dotal have no
instance but from 'Edward the Black Prince to-.
Charles the 'Firo's time; you couldhave none in all
these Reigns. As to the case of Edward the Fifth,
that is only of a Queen who claimed it in the Sane. •
wary ; hut, it does not follow that it was law.
RushwOrth, in 'all hit addresses about the Palatinate,
mentions 'the children of the Palatinate., It is reason.
able to suppose the King did-take care of the edtica.
don of the Princesses of Orange and Denmark. By
the Order of Couricil;•theiKing declares, he had con..
stilted that marriage; and that spews' it was done by
the King's authority. In that of the Duke ofGlouces,
ter every body knows the King appointed him his
tutor. The Address of the House of Commons was,
to remove him. Why should the King remove
him if he had no power -over him ? So. that I ara
clear, the King has this prerogative."