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London, England, 1867-04-12 00:00:00

TEE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING-, APRIL 12, 1867.

the Governmhnt, 50 per cent. of these might be 'expected
to get on the register, or about 123,000. I believe that de-
duction of 50 per cent. is not an unwise deduction. With
regard to compound householders, the figures would show
that the 476,000 in the bill would yield about 238,000
voters. But these figures are not correct, by no fault of
the Government or those engaged in preparing them, but
because there is a considerable number of persons in large
towns who are not compound householders, but who make
arrangements with the parish officers for the payment of
their rates. In Liverpool I stated last year the number
was 7,000 or 8,000, and it is no doubt more. In Ashton
and many other towns the same thing prevails. Conse-
quently the numbers stated would be considerably reduced,
and as regards those householders below £lO there would
be little more than 100,000 placed on the register. I con-
fess I cannot accept a plan that would enfranchise that
number of persons as being a plan that would be accepted
by those who have pledged themselves to reform, or with
the slightest satisfaction to the country. (Hear.) Looking
at that enfranchisement, I would almost turn to my right
lion. friend the member for Caine (Mr. Lowe), as almost
the stoutest opponent of reform, and ask him, if we are to
deal with this question at all, are we to deal with so small
a portion of enfranchisement as is proposed by her Ma-
jesty's Government? I presume he would say, if it is to

of the Government was to inflict on the compound house-
holder below the limit of £lO a fine before he could qualify
as an elector. This is the principle upon which the right
hon. gentleman proposes to stand. The right hon. gentle-
man cannot endure any portion of the amendments pro-
posed by me. He finds then intolerable, one and all. They
must stop the bill, and entail all those public calamities

and disasters which have been so skilfully drawn in vague

outline by the Chancellor of the Exchequer and his satel-
lites, and which have been employed to act upon the
public mind. He, however, is ready to entertain the
proposal of my hon. friend the member for Oldham, and
endeavour to mako some conciliatory arrangement. But
the meaning of the hon. member for Oldham cannot be

mistaken. His meaning with regard to the personal pay-
ment of rates is precisely the same as mine. (Hear, hear.)
He wishes to place the compound householder on the same
footing forevery practical purpose as the rate-paying house-

holder. Ho does not intend to allow arbitrary barriers and
inequalities made by Parliament to stand between the man
whom Parliament declares to be qualified for the franchise

and the enjoyment of his rights, and he is not the man to
be put off with fair words. His object is the same as mine,
which the Chancellor of the Exchequer has declared—l

hope not irrevocably declared—to be wholly inconsistent
with the viows of duty of the Government. I object alto-

gether to the clause proposed by the right hon. gentleman.
I admit it gets rid of certain difficulties, because it may be
more difficult to employ a registration agent for the pur-
pose of creating a mass of compounders into ratepaying
householders than it would be to employ him for qualify-

be dealt with at all, it should be dealt with in a manner
that will last. It will not last. It would merely be an incen-
tive for what is to come, and would not last. As to personal
payment of rates, it is neither more nor less than a ques-
tion whether the rating is to be laid upon the man him-
self, and we are told that personal rating is the principle
of this bill so far as it relates to the borough franchise.
We are told this is the leading constitutional principle of
English representation. If it were, I might go back to
find a number of other usages which prevailed in former
times, and which have been completely superseded in con-
sequence of improved machinery of government. In the
forty-eight scot-and-lot boroughs that system prevailed,
but the freeman was not a ratepayer. In some eases he
was non-resident; and as to half the boroughs in the
country, it is not the fact that ratepaying was originally,
or at any period, known as a basis of the franchise. I ad-
mit that in many boroughs it was, but modern usages have
shown it was necessary to introduce change in the law.
Within the last 50 years there has been a great change in
the law. So difficult was it found to collect the rates in small
sums from small occupiers, that a change took place by the
best of all methods, spontaneously and locally, by which
the landlord pays the rates, and charges them in the rent.
Now will it be denied that the compound householder as
truly pays the rates as that man who pays directly ?
(Hear, hear.) Do not lot us flinch from treating this ques-
tion.lt o
isf
thedisputedrate is up
by economists
theonom tenantistswh oreth hetrte whoeuniteir. ultimate
incidence I
hold it to be a principle of political economy that the ulti-
mate incidence is precisely the same, whether the owner or
the tenant pays it. The new method was devised for the
convenience of owners and parish officers.
It comes out in
the bill of the right hon. gentleman as something approach-
ing to a show of moral inferiority. (Hear, hear.) Was there
man
nr
tsuchell
me a
thatpal• whenadox invented i n Parliament
a
town
Tenements Act, and a town not under the Small Tenements
Will
Small
atri
under ?th V any
Act, you can draw line between them? That in one virtue
prevails, and every one is a good character; and that in
the other there is vice, men cheat their creditors, and men
get drunk. The compound householder goes, as we all do,
where his occupation calls him, and ho has no choice in the
matter. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) Do you think a father
of a family would perform his duty to his wife and his
children if, instead of going to the town where the
market for labour was best, and where he could best minis-
ter to their necessities, he were to inquire if it were a
town where compound householders prevailed? The Small
Tenements Act is adopted by the vestry, and the com-
pound householder himself has nothing to do with it. It
is preposterous, therefore, to introduce a distinction be
tween him and other persons of the same class. The Small
Tenements Act has been adopted in 5,000 parishes, and
will it be said that these are to be refused the franchise on
the ground that their inhabitants are compound house-
holders ? Ludicrous inequalities would be made between
town and town. In Brighton, where there are 100,000
persons, 14 would be qualified by the bill of the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer. Iu another town a single unit
woull be admitted, but as the unit is the gross number
qualified, I leave to the house what the nett number may
be. (A laugh.) That is in different towns; but equal
confusion would occur in the same town. The bill of the
right hon. gentleman is this : it takes from those parishes
which have a majority of population who have the power
of determining elections where they are under the Small
Tenements Act, and it hands over that power to the mino-
rity of the population of the town. It is a dry matter of
arithmetic. Is that the way in which we are to seek a
solid and permanent settlement of reform? Let me give
three or four instances. Here is the great city of Bristol, in
which 76,000, or almost half the population, live in open
parishes, while 78,000 are under the Small Tenements Act.
The 78,000 yield only 5,943 persons qualified to become
voters ; while the 76,000 living in open parishes yield
10,431 persons so qualified. So that half the population,
divided by parishes, is to be invested with electoral power
just double of that possessed by the other. Is that the way
to give content to the people. (Hear.) is there not some-
thing strange, even something almost ridiculous, in calling
tisis legislation, in sending au Act of Parliament like this into
towns, to establish inequalities which are entirely new and
perfectly capricious, and then expect these inequalities to be
accepted by the people of this country? In Grantham the open
parishes, with a population of 3,986, qualify 773 persons to
vote ; but the close parishes under the Small Tenements
Act, with a population of 7,195, qualify only 688 persons to
vote ; or one-third of the population qualifies half the elec-
tors of the town. In Leeds the population of the open
parishes numbers 35,561, and they qualify 7,358 persons to
vote. The population of the parishes under the Small
Tenements Act is 171,601, and they only qualify 9,200 to
vote ; or one-sixth of the population of Leeds has four-
ninths of the voting power in that town. I don't know
how the hon. member for Pontefract likes the new distri-
bution of electorals ; but I find that in Pontefract 5,486
persons living in open parishes qualify 1,273 electors,
while 6,250 in the close parishes qualify only 417 electors.
In that borough the minority of the population has three-
quarters of the voting power. Something written on a piece
of paper or parchment we may choose to call law ; but it
cannot attract the reepect due to law when its operation is
arbitrary and capricious to such an extent. But these are
to be the securities of the constitution, the guarantees
against democracy—the firm, solid, well-built walls which
are to dash back the tide of agitation—these strange concoc-
tions of some ingenious mind, fanciful as if they were in-
tended to be displayed upon a stage, but wholly alien to the
spirit and history of British legislation, and without any-
thing which approaches to a precedent in the records of
this house. Then there is Shoreham, where a population
of 13,346 in open parishes qualifies 2,244 to vote, while a
population of 19,276 persons in close parishes qualifies only
1,451 persons. Perhaps the Solicitor-General will say, let
these parishes cure the evil by throwing out the Small
Tenements Act, and the others cure the evil by bringing
it in ; but I object to making our political measures the
means of interfering with the social and economic arrange-
ments of the country. (Hear, hear.) Whether there shall
be the Small Tenements Act in a parish or not ought to
be settled by the considerations of local convenience, and
not by the ideas of political partisans who may wish to
attract more influence to the borough in which they reside.
Independently of more serious objections, the legislation
of the right hon. gentleman will make the constituencies
all over the country depend upon the will of local authori-
ties assemLl,:d iu their vestries and corporations, and not
upon the will of the Imperial Parliament. 1 wish it were
in my power to more adequately explain to tho house the
real social working of these changes. In certain open
parishes I am not prepared to deny that readiness to pay
rates may not be a bad test of a man's character in other
respects; but in the towns were these arrangements for
compound houses are adopted to come down upon parishes
and visit them with exclusion from the franchise by the
erection of barriers, which it is in our power to remove, is,
in my opinion, a principle founded neither in policy nor in
justice. Many people think it degrades a workman to
become a compound householder; but there are many good
and solid reasons which tend powerfully to make the work-
man wish to become a compound householder in preference
to a rate-paying householder, and make the skilled work-
man of high character desire to become a lodger rather than
either. It simplifies his transactions to pay all the charges
connected with his house in one payment. Then there is
the necessity incumbent on the workman to follow his
work, which entails on him the necessity of frequently
changing his abode. These requirements make a compound
house better suited to hispurpose than a rate-paying;house.
In the metropolis, this great home and hive of lodgers, the
working man must as a rule become either a lodger or a
lodging-house keeper. Being reluctant as a rule to hamper
himself by becoming a lodging-house keeper, he becomes
a lodger. Having mentioned the case of the lodger, I will
make an appeal to the right hon gentleman. Every one
has stated without contradiction for the last three weeks
that the right hon. gentleman is prepared to concede a
a lodger franchise. If he is, what becomes of the personal
payment of rates ? (Cheers.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I never
said I had conceded it. I said I would consider any fair
proposition for a lodger franchise. (Hear, and laughter.)
Mr. GLADSTONE—When the right hon. gentleman
proceeded in his speech to deal with the lodger franchise,
he became heroic in his style, and said, "Suspect me of in-
difference or hostility to the lodger franchise ! why, I am
the father of it." (Cheers and laughter.) Now, we shall see
what kind of paternal tenderness the right hon. gentleman
feels towards his offspring. (Laughter.) What I wish to
know is, is it conceded, or is it not ? (Hear, hear.) If it is
conceded, I rejoice ; but then what becomes of the principle
of the personal payment of rates ? If you give a lodger
franchise, will it be possible, in London, to separate the
rateable value of every house over each floor? 1 think not.
If so, the lodger cannot be personally sated, but must come
in by some other tenure. If so, what becomes of personal
rating as the principle of the borough franchise ? The im-
portance of this cannot be overstated, because in the con-
struction of this bill the principle has been pitched very
high. As was stated by my right hon. friend (Sir B.
Palmer) and myself in the former debate, the proposition

ing them as compounders, by paying the difference of the
rate. The Chaucellor of the Exchequer says to the com-
pound householders, "I have no spite towards you what-
ever. I am perfectly willing you should vote ; but, in order
to vote, you must cease to be a compound householder."
But three-fourths of the population under £lO have come
into the condition of compound householders from social

and economical considerations. Is that the way in which
we are to legislate ? Are we really to punish these occu-
piers preliminary to their getting the franchise ? How
should we ourselves endure such a process? (Hear, hear.)
Has the Chancellor of the Exchequer any idea of what an

aspect this will carry, if passed, of class legislation ? Impos-
ing a fine, and, where not a fine, imposing difficulty, labour,
loss of time—which is loss of money—upon our humbler
fellow-subjects, which we ourselves would not endure ; and
why is this punishment? I say, if Parliament wishes to pass
a limited- suffiage, let us limit it manfully and openly, and
let the people know what we mean. (Cheers.) Do not

Let us send forth to the country a two-faced bill, with a
face for Toryism and a faco for democracy, and vainly

hope and expect we can induce one set of beholders to
worship the image from one point of the compass, and

another set to worship with equal fidelity from another
point of the compass. (Hear.) Tho worthier course will
be for the Government to amend their proposal while there
is yet time ; but whether they amend it or not, it is not a
course worthy of Parliament to entertain it. It is our duty
in this eleventh hour of the reform question to deal can-
didly and straightforwardly with the people of England.
_ _ . _

If we think it expedient to limit the suffrage, let it be
done, and let us say so, leaving the people to judge can-

didly of our acts; but do not 1;t us adopt provisions the
effect of which is to convert oven a boon into en offence
from the nature of the conditions with which it is accoml
panied. They inflict a wrong upon a portion of the com-
munity, which wrong will inevitably avenge upon itself the
community at large in the shape of trouble, strife, and con-
troversy, by renewed, continued agitation—agitation to be
begun from the day when such a law takes its place upon
the statute book, never to cease till the last vestige of such
senseless legislation becomes au idle remnant of the past.
(Cheers.) The right hon. gentleman concluded by moving,
in page 2, lino 3, to insert " whether he or his landlord be
rated to the relief of the poor."
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL, declining to follow Mr.
Gladstone through his discursive speech, addressed, he in-
sinuated, more to the country than to the house, and con-
fining himself to the amendment before the house, pointed
out that personal rating was already a necessary condition
of the suffrage under the Reform Act, and argued that the
Compound Householders Act never contemplated an inter-
ference with the francl.ise, and had, in fact, nothing what-
ever to do with it. The difficulties of those acts could easily
be got over. The test of stability and respectability the
bill proposed was based on an old principle, was strongly
recommended by Lord Grey's committee, and had been
sanctioned by Mr. Gladstone himself in 1852, 1851, and
1860.
Sir E. BULLER maintained that the principle of the
bill was household suffrage, tempered by certain limita-
tions, and expressed his disappointment that Mr. Disraeli,
after his professions of conciliation, should insist on one
kind of limitation rather than another, at all risks. He
strongly condemned the principle of personal rating, urging
that it would open the door to endless corruption.

The O'DONOGHT3E reflected with some acrimony on
the conduct of the Tories in regard to Reform, insisting
that they were still the enemies of th© enfranchisement of
the people, as was proved by this bill. The personal pay-
ment of rates was a barrier which few could over get over,
and the bill altogether was an evasion of the popular de-
mand.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

NEWMARKET CRAVEN MEETING.—TIIURSDAY.
The weather to-day was more favourable, for although
the morning had a very forbidding aspect, towards noon
the black clouds cleared off, and had it not been for the 1
strong wind which prevailed the afternoon would have
been really pleasant. Before proceeding to the course •
there was a meeting in front of the subscription rooms, for
the purpose of settling, after which somo speculation took
place upon future events, details of which will be found
appended to the running. Racing commenced at half-past
twelve o'clock with the Claret Stakes, which produced a
couple of runners—the Maid of Mashain colt and Auguste
—the absentee from the throe coloured being Lord Stam-
ford's Esca. Odds of 6to 4 were laid on the French colt,
and, as will be seen from the appended return, the " talent"
landed the odds, and the race for the second time in suc-
cession fell to the popular colours of Count Lagrange. It
will be remembered that last year Gladiateur walked over
for this race, and the " donkey-eater," Archimedes, saved
his stake. The Biennial Stakes brought out a field of five
runners, against eleven last year. Ischia was elected
favourite, 7 to 4 being freely taken, while Westwick, the
reported trial-horse of Tarabau, was backed at 2to 1. The
winner however turned up in The Peer, and it was quite
ref reshiug to see the popular "blue and geld belt" of that
thorough sportsman, Lord Stamford, borne in the van.
Considering his lordship's recent run of ill-luck it is not
surprising that so few stood his representative, or that the
horse was quoted at 20 to 1. There was a rumour of an
objection on the ground of foul riding, but nothing came
of it. The Abingdon Stakes, which was looked upon as a
good thing for Nelly Rose —a filly by Newminster out of
Birdhill's dam—resulted in favour of Ninny, who was not
so much fancied as Witchcraft. The followers of public
form who stood the Duke of Newcastle's filly landed
their money, and despite her penalty, she was backed for
flat,
produced good deal at sto 1. The Handicap Plate, across the
we
ek,
being the largest field of the day, indeed of the
being contested by no fewer than 17 runners,
a the eissue
being in favour of Kenyon and Roquefort who was good
last
year Guinivero, who won this identical race
year with slbs. less than she carried to-day, was never
looking formidable. T b
The result showed "talent" to
have been singularly fortunate in their selection, as Python,
the second favourite, was only defeated a head,
uit Butler and
Kenyon having a gallant set-to. The n ette of two-
year-olds entered for the Sweepstakes over the Rowley
Mile west to the post, Speculum, the property of the Duke
of Newcastle, whose stable has been in
rare f
or m during
the week, had most friends, and was warmmadea favou-
rite at 7to 4. Again were the talent correct in their
reckonings, for Arthur Edwards landed the colt an easy
winner by a length. The Sweepstakes of 100 sovs over the
Ditch Mile followed, the absentee of the four coloured being
Vauban, who was struck out at 2.5w1t0-adnay.
extraordinary Ta b n,
who it was reported last week had on
trial, and had advanced into a more prominent position in
the Derby quotations, accordingly was chosen as the
champion of the backers, the betting opening at 2 to 1,
to 1
closing at 6 to 4 on him, while 2was taken about
Whirligig, and 100 to 30 about Sihnkea•
laid well up until about a quarter The favourite
'of amile from home,
when Carroll called upon him, but ho was dead beaten and
rolled all over the course like a shim
by a storm. The Aske
Produce Stake, was walked over forPSceur de Cha
was rite,
and the Subscription Plate won by thecoltby Leaming-
ton out of Annie Laurie, who claimed by Mr.
Wood, whose representative, Rose,b betting on the Two
e ran second. The
other races require no comment
Thousand was not very
'T
extensive on the course,
but at the rooms at the conlusion of the races Plaudit
was made the medium of another " sensation.
a
One large speculator loudly offer sto 1 against him,
but there were plenty of takers, eand about £7OO was,
invested upon the Richmond colt. l`he same ‘, operator,
also laid £3,000 to £2OO against him,
f t and fourteen " fifties"
wore afterwards taken. Taraban,
ex-
hibition, went to any price-1,000 after
tao3bellinfag inglorious
nominal
sival
quotation. Below will be found all the transactions which
occurred upon future events :

Mr. KENDALL, though regretting that the Govern
ment had decided to deal with Reform at all, had made up
his mind to support the bill and to go down to household
suffrage if necessary, and hinted broadly that much of the
opposition from the other side was prompted by a fear that
the bill would admit a large body of sensible Conservative
working men.
Sir W. HEATHCOTE discussed the amendment as pre-
senting an alternative between household suffrage, with
the limitation of personal rating, and a £5 rating franchise,
and expressed his preference for the latter as containing
more of the element eminent] a permanent settlement. The
Government Bill was y unsatisfactory ; it was at
once niggardly and slavish, timid, and rash, and he re-
gretted that the Government had unnecessarily pinned its
existence on this particular provision of personal pay-
ment of the Solicitor-General and the Chancellor of the
Exchequer; ho concluded by expressing a hope that the
house Would pass the amendment and the Government
would accept it.
Mr. HENLEY said the true way to meet the arguments
of the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not to taunt him
and those who sit with him, as the hon. and learned mem-
ber for Exeter (Mr. Coleridge) did. That may be a ready
way to hcax people outside, but not the House.
ud (Cheers
te
.)
It is said the amendment presents a clear a defini
issue, but if ever there
definite was au amendmentthan another less definite
and less capable of being treated as ,
it is this. The hon. member for the University of Oxford
(Sir W. Ileathcote) says he will take it because something
else is to follow—a limit to the franchise. The hon. and
learned member for Exeter says, " I want an extension
and lowering of the franchise, and this bill won't give me
that ;" and he supports the amendment because without it
the bill would not extend or lower the franchise enough.
They support it for exactly contrary reasons. (Cheers.)
We ought to have had before us the question whether the
franchise is to be limited by a hard and fast line, or open
to all who will qualify themselves to exercise it. (Cheers.)
But that is not raised by the amendment. We are there-
fore placed in a difficulty. If a limit is not fixed, the
amendment is of no consequence; but if it fixes a limit, it
would be fatal to the bill. This amendment has been framed
evidently to catch votes. (Cheers.) Those who want fixed
limits, and those who want household suffrage, pure and
simple, will vote for it alike. The hon. member for Exeter,
who says he is for household suffrage, pure and simple,
gives it as his opinion—a Liberal opinion—that the per-
sons we want to enfranchise will never seek the franchise
for themselves. We are told everybody wants it. (Laugh-
ter and cheers.) And he says if they get it the landlord or
the candidate will have to pay for it. (Cheers.) The lion.
and learned gentleman said payment of rates was never the
ancient practice of this country. Scot and lot did not de-
pend on acts of Parliament, but the people were rated and
paid their rates. In 1832 a class of gentlemen called Re-
foplerg made it more definite, and the principle has been
recognised uninterruptedly till last year, when the right
hon. gentleman the member for South Lancashire omitted
the matter of rating in his bill. (Cheers.) A great
deal has been said about evasion. The issue presented
by the amendment is not free from evasion, and the
right honourable gentleman on the front bench (Mr.
tGwoloahudolsdltyonnmo eta, )n,
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dwb ioel
deulhtdhe
eb go
questionov
ne at
hf
the
formidable it
hde
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bbwloeomka
nraaynydmo
might
howht figuresgneit
a noa
yus
if they liked. (Cheers.) But that is the question. The only
figure named is £5. The Small Tenements Act touches .£6.
The only numbers who will be " floating"—who will be
able to choose whether they will come in or not—will be
those between £5 and £6. If you fix the hard limit of
£5, you absolutely shut out all below. Liberal gentlemen
should attend to this. (Loud laughter and cheers.) And
these aro the persons who swell the great number the right
hon. gentleman spoke of. (Laughter.) The member for the
University of Oxford argues as he does beeauso he does not
want au extension of the franchise, but it is difficult to
understand how he and the Liberal gentlemen are agree-
ing together—(cheers)—and all those numbers and figures
are thrown like pieces of dirt into water—to muddle it.
We aro told that the rating principle is unfair, because it
will confer great power on the local authorities. But why
won't your ..t5 hard line do the same ? (Hear, hear.) It is
likely to confer more power in consequence of the provi-
sions of the Small Tenements Act. What is the Local
Tenements Act which the right hon. gentleman praises as
a great social and economical arrangement ? It is nothing
else but a device of Old Nick to oppress the poor. (Laugh-
ter.) Formerly, those who were too poor to pay rates were
exempted, but now, however poor and helpless they may
be, they are compelled to pay rates through the landlord,
and just in proportion as an unfortunate man is poor the
landlord demands a higher rent, and screws it out of him.
(Hear, hear.) If it were swept away, it would be a great
benefit to the poor. The hon. and learned gentleman oppo-
site objects that under this principle pranks will be played
in arranging the rating to enfranchise some and disfran-
chise others. But it will bo more easy to play pranks of that
kind against a definite line than against a few isolated
people. (Hear.) When you have one line to go against,
you may do a good stroke of business. (Laughter.) You
may put a lot below that line. (Hear, hear.) The
right honourable gentleman the member for South Lan-
cashire taunts the Chancellor of the Exchequer by asking,

The Claret Stakes, a subscription of 200 sovs each, h ft,
for four year olds; colts Bst 101 b, fillies Bst 51b; the
second to save his stake : D.I. ; 5 subs.
Count Lagrange's Auguste, by Monarquo—Etoile du
Nord, by The Baron, Bst 101 b (Ilibberd) 1
Lord Glasgow's c by Young Melbourne, dam by Ted-
dington—Maid of Masham, Bst 101 b (Aldcroft) 2
Betting-6 to 4on Auguste.
The Eighth Newmarket Biennial Stales of 10 sovs each,
with 100 added by the Jockey Club, for four year olds ;
colts Bst 101 b, fillies Bst 61b; starters for this race in
1866, and not being placed first or second, to be allowed
41b in 1867, and in 1867 maidens before starting allowed
101 b, if they have never received 50 sovs as second horse;
tho winner of the Derby or Doncaster St. Loger 71b
extra; the second to receive a sum equal to 10 per cent.
on the whole stake, and the third a sum equal to 5 per
cent. 58 subs. D.I.
Lord Stamford's The Peer, by Newminster Main-
brace, Bst 61b (Morris) 1
Mr. Bowes's Westwick, Bst 61b (Carroll) 2
Duke of Beaufort's Ischia, Bst 61b (Fordham) 3

" What becomes of the principle of rating if you are going Mr. Padwick's Witchcraft, Bst 51b (Cannon) 2
to let in a lodger clause ?" Ho assumes the fact, and then Capt. Hawksley's Eau de Vie, Bst 7th (Fordham) 3
argues upon it. (Hear, hear.) But there is an enormous Two others also ran.
difference between the two. The right hon. gentleman in Betting-7 to 4 agst Speculum, sto 2 agst Eau de Vie,
his bill last year admitted tenants at £7 and lodgers at £lO. and sto 1 agst North Marston.
You might as well object that a man who has money in A Sweepstakes of 100 sovs each, h ft, for three year olds ;
the savings bank may not be rated. (Hear, hear.) It is a colts Bst 161 b, fillies Bst 61b ; D.M. ; 4 subs.
large and open question whether there should be a lodger Mr. E. Brayley's Whirligig, by St. Albans—Maypole,
Bst 101 b
franchise, which he (Mr. Henley) would be glad to have Lord Stamford's Siiankos, Bst 101 b (Morris) 2
argued. But if you want it, it is not the likeliest way to Mr. Bowes' Taraban, Bst 101 b (Carroll) 3
get it to say we cannot admit it without overthrowing Vauban was struck out at 2.51 on the day of the race.
every principle of the bill. The hon. member for Tralee Betting opened at 2tol on but closed at 6t04 on Tara-
(The O'Donoghue) has used strong language ; but the au- ban, 3to 1 agst Whirligig, and 100 to 30 agst Siiankos.
swer to that was given last year by the right hon. gentle- Tho Aske Produce Stakes of 50 sovs each, h ft, for three
man the member for South Lancashire, when he said that, year olds ; colts Bst 101 b, fillies Bst 71b; untrieds allowed
with regard to this question of reform, neither side of the
31b ; D.M.
house had said much to the other. When a Liberal Go- •
Mr. Pryor's Scour de Charit,S, by Newminster—Lady
varnment, a powerful majority, sat in this house, the hon. Tatton, Bst 71b (Fordham) w.o.
member never raised his voice to compel them to deal with A Subscription Plate of 50 sovs ; three year olds 7st 51b,
the question. (Hear, hear.) Tho members on that side of four Bst 121 b, five and upwards 9st 41b; the winner to
the house were all reformers at the hustings —(laughter)— be sold for 300 sovs if demanded, &c.; if entered for 150
but that was not the case ou this side of the house. (Hear, sovs allowed 71b ; D.M.
hear.) He (Mr Henley) held it to be right that there should Mr. J. Dawson's cby Leamington—Annie Laurie (£150)
be an enlargement of the franchise, and he would not have 3 yrs, 6st 121 b (H. Covey) 1
•
opposed the bill of last year if he had not thought it a Mr. J. Wood's Rose (Z 150), 6 yrs, Bst 101 b (Boggis) 2
bad bill, and had not held a strong opinion
.that this Mr. H. Savile's Claverhouso (£150), 4 yrs, Bst 51b
question cannot be settled by a fixed arbitrary line. (Fordham) 3
(Cheers.) Tho right hon. gentleman has not explained
why a man rented at £4 is fit for the franchise, while a
man rented at £1 is not fit. If you cannot get an answer
you must go on step by step, until what is called the re-
siduum is admitted without restriction. The right hon.
gentleman, speaking of the admission of 200,000 persons, .
said, " They won't hurt you." That is a curious
way of reckoning such things. (A laugh.) If they are good,
admit them all; but if they are not, admit none. (Hear,
hear.) Tho fair test of fitness and unfitness is bearing the
burdens of citizenship. if a man wants to exercise the pri-
vileges, let him bear the burdens of citizenship. (Cheers.)
The people will fairly understand this principle. (Hear.)
It may be that there will be a greater wish to obtain the
privileges of civilisation in some places than in others. If
that be so in some places, a greater number will avail them-
selves of the facility for obtaining them ; but it is no proof
that the offer is not a fair one. (Cheers.) The question of
the length of residence was fairly open to discussion, but
he could not venture to think that it ought to be altogether
done away with. (Cheers.)
Lord CRANBORNE commenced by expressing his re-
gret that the moderate bill of last year had not been
accepted, for, though he would have been sitting on a
different side, the prospects of the British Constitution
would be brighter. Without reverting to the argument,
he urged last year as to the change in the balance of power,
he objected to this bill because it would not allay agitation
or secure repose, which ought to be the first object of
passing a Reform Bill. Another objection was that the
composition of the constituencies would be intrusted to
the caprice of the local authorities—they would be con-
tinually varying, subject to be increased at the changing
will of a vestry, or by the corrupt expenditure of rich
candidates or active political societies, and these great
flooclings of the constituencies would always take place at
seasons of political excitement. Taken as a whole, he
preferred Mr. Gladstone's to Mr. Disraeli's scheme, and
should therefore support the amendment.
Mr. ROEBUCK moved the adjournment of the debate,
and after some caustic remarks from Mr. Erie apropos of
the threatened dissolution, and a short conversation on the
propriety of postponing the motion for adjourning over
the Easter recess until it was apparent whether the debate
would conclude to-night, the Chairman was ordered to re-
port progress.
Some other orders were forwarded a stage, and the
house adjourned at 10 minutes past 1 o'clock.

Water Lily colt also ran.
Betting— 6 to 5 on the Annie Laurie colt, 3 to 1 agst
Claverhouse, and 7 to 1 agst Rose.
Sweepstakes of 10 sovs each, for 2 and 3-yr-olds ; certain
allowances; winner to be sold for 200 sovs. Last half
of Rowley mile. (4 subs.)

Mr. Ten Broeck's Claymore, by Drogheda— Queen of
Egypt, 3 yrs, Bst 111 b (Fordharn) 1
Mr. Pryor's Haymarkot, 2 yrs, Gst Illb (carried Gst 121 b)
(ff. Covoy) 2
Mr. Ten Broeck's Fashion, 2 yrs, Gst 111 b (Barlow) 3
Betting-3 to lon Claymore, and 100 to 30 agst Hay-
market.

March, 100, h ft. First half of tho Abingdon mile.
Mr. Savile's Maid Maria; by Skirmisher—Middleton
Maid, 3 yrs, Bst 51b • (Fordham) 1
Lord Westmorland's f Lawbton—lVingsof a Dove, 2 yrs,
7st 51b (Kenyon) 2

Betting-6 to son Maid Marian.
Match, 100, 25 ft. Last half of Abingdon mile.

Lord Conyngham's Dr. Syntax,.4 yrs, Bst 1011.1... rec. forfeit.
Lord Westmorland's Offington, 3 yrs, Bst I.olb...paid forfeit

TIIIRSK SPRING MEETING-THURSDAY.

The Sowerby Plato of 25 sovs (Handicap); winners of
any handicap after March 27 (at six p.m.) 31b, twice 71b
extra. T.Y.C.

Mr. Davison's Lion, by Windhonnd—Lioness, 5 yrs, Bst
121 b (Sellars) 1
Mr. F. Grosz's Wentworth, 4 yrs, 7st 1 Olb ...(Whiteley) 2
Mr. H. Bragg's Minna, 3 yrs, 6st 31b (Walker) 3
Six others also ran.

Betting-7 to 4 agst Paleface, 6to 1 agst Verdi, Went-
worth, and Fandango gelding, 7 to I agst Minna, 8 to 1
agst Lion and Mite.

The Mowbray Stakes of 10 sous each, h ft, with 50 added
for two-year-olds ; colts Bst I.olb, fillies and geldings
Bst 71b ; winners once 41b, twice 81b extra ; starters
twice without winning allowed 31b, thrice Sib ; the
second to save his stake. T.Y.C. 10 subs.

3lr. T. Hampton's Affection, by Lifeboat—Rose d'Amour,
Bst 71b (J. Snowden) 1
Mr. J. P. Craven's Scoteliman's Pride, Bst 101 b (I'Anson) 2
Mr. G. Pawson's Queen of York, Bst 71b (Sellars) 3
Six others also ran.

Betting-5 to 2 agst Affection, 9to 2 agst Scotchman's
Pride, 7 to 1 each agst Mother Neasharn and Queen of
York.

The Hunt Cup of 60 sovs in specie ; the winner to receive
50 sovs, second 10 ; four year olds lOst 101 b, five list
71b, six and aged 12st 31b ; once a winner of any race or
steeplechase 71b, twice 101 b, thrice 141 b, four times 211 b
extra; starters three times in hunters' stakes and never
won allowed 51b, five times 71b ; penalties and allow-
ances not accumulative; gentlemen riders only; about
two miles and a half.
Mr. H. Johnstone's Lord Fauconberg, dam by Professor
Buck, 4 yrs, lOst 1016 (Mr. Boyton) 1
Sir George Cholmley's Adonis, aged, 12st 101 b
(Mr. G. S. Thompson)
Mr. J. Simpson's Helen (sis. to Volunteer), 5 yrs, llst 71b 2
(Mr. Walker) 3

Six others also ran.

Betting- 5 to 4 agst Lord Fauconberg colt, 3 to 1 agst
The Miller, 6 to 1 agst Helen, 7 to 1 agst Barrister, 10 to
1 agst others.

The Members' Plate of 25 sous, added to a Selling Stakes
of 3 sovs each ; 3 yr olds Bst, 4 9st 41b, 5 9st 101 b, 6 and
aged lOst ; the winner to be sold for 150 sovs ; if entered
for 100 sovs allowed 51b, 80 101 b, 50 141 b, 40 211 b, 20
281 b ; about one mile. To close and name on Wednes-
day evening.
Dusty Miller, by Knight of Avenel—Lady Paramount,
4 yrs, 9st 41b (Cameron) 1
Captain llogg (Walker) 2
Fair Maid of Perth, 4 yrs, 9st 41b .....(rAnson) 3

Tye on also ran.
The Hambledon Plato of 100 sous (Handicap); winners o;

any handicap after March 27 (at six p.m) 41b, twice 71b

extra. One mile.
Mr. W. Cowen's Moldavia, by Hospodar—Tibiphone, 5
yrs, 7st 111 b (inc. 71b ox) (Lawrence) 1
Mr. ohnstone's Czar, 4 yrs, 7st 61b
Mr. Masterman's Honesty, 4 yrs, Bst 41b (Marson) 3
Fourteen others also ran.

Betting-3 to 1 agst Czar, 4to 1 agst East Lynn, 7to 1
agst Moldavia and El Cid, 10 to 1 agst Honesty and Fair
Wind, 100 to 1 agst Esmeralda.

RAILWAY INTELLIGENCE

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NORTH LONDON.

A Wharncliffe meeting of this company was held
yesterday at the offices, Euston station ; Mr. J.
Bancroft in the chair.

The Solicitor read the heads of a bill now before
Parliament for enabling the North London Railway
Company to widen further portions of their rail-
way, and for granting various additional powers to
the company.

The CHAIRMAN, in moving a resolution approving
the bill, stated that it authorised the raising of
£300,000 additional capital, of which £40,000 was
for the construction of a loop line to the Tilbury and
Southend Railway, which would be beneficial to both
companies, and facilitate the interchange of traffic.
It was intended to widen the North London line
from the Dalston Junction to Camden-road by means
of a double line, the company having powers already
to widen it for a single line, but from the great in-
crease of traffic the London and North-Western
Company, who were shareholders in the line, were
satisfied that the widening by a double line was ab-
solutely requisite, and that the proposed additional
capital would be remunerative. They also intended
to construct convenient workshops for the repair of
the rolling stock, and to make other improvements
on the line for accommodating and facilitating the
traffic. The bill also contained the usual borrowing
powers.
A formal resolution approving the bill was carried
unanimously, and a vote of thanks to the chairman
concluded the proceedings.

BAHIA AND SAN FRANCISCO (LIMITED).
The half-yearly general meeting of this company
was held yesterday at the London Tavern ; Mr. T.
M. Weguelin, M.P., in the chair.

for the adoption of the report, which was carried
unanimously.

A dividend of 12s. per share, being equal to 3 per
cent., for the half year ending 31st December last,
was declared payable forthwith.
Sir H. Rich and Mr. Neave, the retiring direc-
tors, were unanimously re-elected, and also Mr.
Franklin, the retiring auditor.
The mover of a resolution at the last meeting in
reference to the engineer-in-chief now expressed his
regret for having moved that resolution ; and the
proceedings concluded with thanks to the chairman
and directors, and also to the secretary, for their
attention to the interes:s of the company.

Mr. W. CLAY, the secretary having read the notice
convening the meeting, the report, an abstract of
which has appeared in The Sun, was taken as read.
The CHAIRMAN, in moving the adoption of the
report, said he had only a few remarks to make. The
dividend had been fairly earned, although the traffic
was not so good as in the same half of the preceding
year. The expenses having been something less en-
abled them to propose the same dividend, 3 per
cent., as in the corresponding half-year. The
traffic had suffered from a falling off in the produce
of the district, and although it was stated in the
report that they looked forward to the dividends
increasing from the present time, recent accounts
as to the probable produce for the next year were
not so good as expected. He hoped that efforts
would continue to be made to attract the traffic to the
railway, and that great economy at Bahia would be
adopted with a view to improve the dividend. One
source of increase was expected from the cattle
traffic. They were told that the Government in-
tended to divert the cattle traffic from the present
route to the railway at Alagoinhas, and to open
communications from the railway to the producing
districts. He was sorry to say that the energetic
Governor of the province had been transferred to
Rio, but lie trusted that he would be succeeded by
a Governor who would carry out his policy, and
that the necessary roads would be constructed as
soon as possible to facilitate the conveyance of pro-
duce to the railway. With regard to the repairing
of the damages caused by the floods, the works were
going on very satisfactorily, and the money that had
been appropriated at the last meeting for that pur-
pose would be an ample provision. The damage to
the tunnel was not so great as they feared, but it
was thought advisable to do all the repairs in the
most substantial manner, and for that purpose they
were sending out bricks and cement from this coun-
try. They had no doubt that the estimated cost of
those repairs would not be exceeded, and that they
would be executed in the most substantial manner
within that estimate. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. J. MORGAN, a director, seconded the motion