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London, England, 1867-03-14 00:00:00

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HOUSE OF LORDS.—Tuts EVENING.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at
five o'clock.

THE TORNADO.

Lord DERBY laid on the table of the house the papers
in the case of the Tornado.
METROPOLTT.AN TRAFFIC BILL.

This bill was read a third time and passed.
THE HYPOTHEC AMENDMENT (SCOTLAND)

BILL.

Lord SONDES moved the reference of this bill to a
select committee, which was agreed to.

TRADES UNION BILL.

Lord LIFFORD moved that this bill be recommitted.
There would be three commissions appointed to investi-
gate into the matter.
Lurd ST. LEONARDS made some remarks against a
certain clause in the bill, which he denounced as an ex-
ceptional legislation.
Earl GRANVILLE having made a few remarks upon
the postponement of the bill, it was postponed for a week.
RAILWAY TRAFFIC PROTECTION BILL.

LQI7E:DESDAIEhaving moved the second read-
in Lord CLANRICARDE said that this was one of the best
bills on the question which could be proposed. The rail-
ways were for the convenience of the public, and it was
absolutely necessary that protection should be given to
the companies in order to protect their stock from seizure,
which would manifestly involve great public inconve-
nience. Ho trusted, however, that the noble lord would
pay particular attention to the clauses of the bill.
The Duke of CLEVELAND thought that the bill ought
to be proceeded with as soon as possible.
Lord REDESDALE said that this bill was intended
purely to beta protection to the railway company until the
Ist August next. He considered that it would be batter to
have the second reading of the bill.
After a few observations from the Duke of DETONSIIIRB,

The bill was read a second tune.
RECOVERY OF CERTAIN DEBTS (SCOTLAND)

. _----BILL.
The appointment of the committee on this bill was
postponed.
RECRUITING IN THE ARMY.
Lord PA NMURE said that he approached this subject
without any apology. He thought that it was only
in justice to himself that—he should lay before them,
as he intended to do that evening, the whole
of the particulars of this really most important
question. He conceived that such questions, involving
considerations only to the subject of domestic policy,
should not be referred to a commission. The reorganisa-
tion of the army was one of the most vital principle of the
day. The commission had inquired into the whole sys-
tem of recruiting and the means which should be taken
to make the services of the recruits valuable to the army.
All this had been done, and it had been found that the
system of recruiting was very defective, and therefore
they had advised that an officer should be appointed
to superintend the whole of the recruiting.
lie
(Lord Pitumure) had heard in another place that
suggestion was going to be adopted by her Majesty's Go-
vernment. There was a second consideration to which
they had given their attention, that of the grievances of
the soldier. The principal one appeared to be the manner
of pay. After tho many deductions were made from his
pay of is. a day, he hardly received anything. (Hear;
hear.) Another point was that the soldier had to pay
12s. a year for his tunic, this was considered to be a hard-
ship. Now, in another instance, it was discovered that
especially with cavalry soldiers, three-quarters of a pound
of meat was not enough. The noble lord condemned the
idea, of giving 2d. a day to the soldier, if this were done
it might contribute to stop complaints for a time, but
they would eventually crop up again, and such a conces-
sion would be of no avail. The reducing of the stoppages
would cost £lB,OOO, but if the extra pound of meat were
given it would amount to nearly £200,000.
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF COADIONS.—Tins EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
THE REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE.

Mr. MILL gave notice that he would draw the attention
of the house to the plan of personal representation.
THE PARIS EXHIBITION.
Mr. A.KROYD asked the Secretary to the Treasury if
his attention had been called to the very incomplete state
in which the British portion of the Paris Exhibitiou was
now placed; and, whether he intended to have it com-
pleted in a manner worthy of the commercial dignity and
importance of this country.
Mr. HOPE said before the question was answered, he
should like to know whether the sum of £116,000 which
had been voted for expenses would be exceeded or not.
Mr. HUNT said the question of the hon. gentleman
seemed to imply that the Secretary of the Treasury
had the direction of the wcrks in Paris. Such
was not the case, but he had made inquiry and
he had received a communication from the exezutive com-
mission of the Royal Commissioner, which stated that the
present state of the British portion of the Exhibition was
in consequence of the work not being done. (Hear, and
laughter.) It was, however, in progress, and would be
finished by the first of April. (Laughter.) Ho had
since that communication received additional information,
which stated that the British portion of the Exhibition was
much more advanced than that of other countries.
Mr. CRAWFORD asked the name of the Executive
Commissioner.
Mr. HUNT said the document was signed " Richard
Thompson." (Laughter.)
REFORM BILL FOR SCOTLAND.
Colonel SYKES asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether it was the purpose of the Government to bring
before the house this session a Reform Bill for the repre-
sentation of Scotland ; if so, whether the principles of re-
presentation to be adopted in the Reform Bill for England
and Wales would be applied to Scotland; and whether any
attempt would be made, to a greater or less extent, to ad-
just the number of representatives in Scotland to the
present wealth and population of the country ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was
the intention of the Government to introduce a bill for
Scotland, but at that moment he could not state the exact
period at which it would be brought forward. The prin-
ciples would be the same as those embodied in the English
bill—(hear, hear) -with such alterations as the different
laws of the two countries rendered necessary. With respect
to the other part of the inquiry as to whether there was an
intention to increase the representation in Scotland, all he
could say at that moment was that the matter was under
consideration, and the subject would be decided upon its
merits.

THE WATERFORD ELECTION.
Mr. LAWSON asked the Attorney-General for Ireland
whether ho had taken any steps to investigate the two
cases of homicide which occurred at Oungarvan, and
which formed the subject of the coroner's inquests held
there ; and, whether his attention had been called to the
observations of Mr. Justice O'Hagan to the Grand Jury of
Waterford upon that subject ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said
steps had been taken, and by his direction matters were
now in progress to ascertain if possible the names of the
military who made the charge during the late election fur
Waterford, in order that the whole subject might undergo
investigation. With respect to the other subject men
tioued, notice had been taken of the matter to which he
referred.

GREENWICH HOSPITAL.
Sir C. BRIGHT asked the Secretary to the Ad-
miralty if, as a portion of Greenwich Hospital
had been granted to the Seamen's Hospital Society for
seamen of the mercantile marin?, the Government would
also grant a portion of the unoccupied space upon the same
conditions, for a publ c hospital for the reception of sick
and diseased persons belonging to the borough of Green-
wich ? .
Mr. DU CANE said a portion of the hospital had been
granted to the Seamen's Hospital Society with the reser-
vation that in the event of the requirements made by one
or other circumstance Government should be at liberty to
resume possession. If a portion of the
ian ce hospital was gheivin-
en
for Greenwich, it would be quite at var with t
tention of the foundCerH of the institution.
CHAIN CABLES.
Mr. LAIRD asked the Secretary to the Admiralty whe-
ther, as all the chain cables and anchors manufactureolfd
n the country were required, by the act
864, to be tested to the Admiralty standard,
the Board had terminated, or intended to ter-
minate, the contract between the Admiralty
the comand Messrs.
Brown, Lennox, and Co., and to open up to peti-
tion of respectable makers the future supply of chain cables
and anchors for her Majesty's service.
Lord IL LENNOX said notice of the intension of the
Government had been given not to renew the contract
with Messrs. Brown LeDnnox, and Co.
THE itAI IN HONDURAS. _ _

Mr. GOSCIihN asked the Under Secretary of State
for the Co'wiles, whether he could communicate to
the house any information with regard to the
recent incursion of Indiana into the colony of
Honduras, and to an action alleged to have
taken place between thorn and a portion of the 3d
West Inlia Regiment ; and, whether his attention had
boon called to an extract from the Jamaica Gleaner, con-
taining serious iriputations ou the conduct of the
English officer iu command on that occasion,
who, it was stated, while in command of 150 men met a
party of Indians amounting to about 50 ; that he retreated,
leaving his kit, arms, and wounded on the ground.
Mr. ADDERLEY said it was true that there had been a
raid of the Indians, and a communication had been sent to
General O'Connor, the officer in command in Jamaica, who
had despatched Mr. Rice and Major Mackey to Honduras.
The information that had come to the Government was to
the effect that both parties—the Indians and the soldiers

retreated. (Laughter.) Inquiry would be made into
the conduct of the troops on the occasion.

THE REFORM BILL.

Mr. LOCKE called the attention of the house to the de-
lay that had taken place in the production of the papers on
the subject of Reform, alluded to by the noble lord the
member for Stamford, which the right hon. the Chancellor
of the Exchequer, on Tuesday the sth inst., said ho hoped
to be able to lay upon the table of the house in a few days.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
papers would be in the hands of the members by to-morrow
, or Saturday.
Mr. ULADSTONE asked whether the printing of the

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Reform Bill would be so expedited as to be in the hands of
hon. members on Tnesday morning.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXUHEQUER replied in
the affirmative.

r LEFT SITTING. I

Crystal Palace Company.

MEETING THIS DAY.

An extraordinary general meeting of the sharehoMets
and directors was held to-day, ut the London Tavern ;
A. C. lonides Esq., in the chair.

The CHAIRMAN, in opening the business of the day,
entered into an explanation of the various items in the
report presented, and, on coining to that portion of it wish,
respect to the proposal to raise £lOO,OOO edditionel capite.4
said such a step became necessary in order to restore ow,
part of the Palace which had been unfortunately deetr..3eid
by lire. After considering various suggestions the ear
tors had conni to the cuuclusioa to re-establish the I.'tdace
just as it was previous to the tire. (Hear, hear.) Nceteing
could be more beautiful, and it was thought it would be
the most beneficial to do so. Of course, in carrviug out
that work certain improvements would be introduced and
novelties adopted, but the main work would be a complete
and perfect restoration of the Pel ice in its original attrac-
tive form. \rations matters had b -en fully considered by
the directors, Amongst which was the erection of a larger
concert-room. Thu directors hal the matter fully
under consideration, but there was a danger of
having a mieert-room too large, as well as too
small. The greatest success had hitherto attended, the
concerts at the Crystal Palace, and it was a matter that re-
quired the greatest deliberation before that • suc-
cess was interfered with in any way. The propo-
sition would receive that attention which it required.
The course proposed to be adopted by the directors to
raise the new capital was the most advantageous plan
that could be adopted; and the directors in the first in-
stance proposed to offer it to the holders of £5O and up-
wards of the ordinary stock of the company in proportion
to their holdings.
Mr. It. READ seconded the motion of the chairman for
the adoption of the report.
Mr. GOEZ said it was most important that the directors
should puiut out to shareholders how they were to in-
crease their revenue, so that the preferential charge should
be no burden on them. He thought the proposal of the
chairman to ask the assent of the shareholders to the pro-
posed application to Parliament for power to raise the new
capital was premature, at least at the present moment,
The estimate 'for the restoration he believed was
.£Bl,OOl, but before that liability was incurred
he thought it was not too much to ask
what was to be done with the new building after it was
erected. The explanation, be thought, was absolutely
necessary, because it was too much, in his opinion, to ask
the shareholders to sacrifice their dividend until there was
an urgent necessity for it. He contended that as music had
contributed so much to the success of the company, that
instead of spending all their new capital in the restoration
of a tropical department it would be far more desirable that
a new concert-room, calculated to hold 10,000, should
be erected. This could ba demi for little more
than £33,000, leaving a great deal of the proposed new
capital for after contingencies.
Mr. ELLts said the present concert-room was quite large
enough, and if not it could easily be increased at a sum
very far below that mentioned by the last speaker. He
had contemplated the great concerts that had been given
in the Palace on holidays and other occasions, and he
never heard any person express dissatisfaction because he
had not heard every note of music; the splendid sight
presented seemed to him quite to compensate for the loss
of a few notes of music.

The CHAIRMAN said the object of the present meeting
was not for the purpose of entering into details, but to
obtain the assent of the shareholders to their application to
Parliament for raising £lOO,OOO of additional capital.
Mr. PUNCHER said he thought it would be more deco-
rous to the shareholders if they had been consulted before
the application to Parliament. He by accident happened
to be iu the house, and when he went into the committee-
room the first question put to the parties representing the
company was, " Have the shareholders been con-
sulted?" He eontended that, supposing the direc-
tors got the assent of the meeeting to raise
£lOO,OOO at 7 per cent., they could not get the money
without paying at least 11 or 12 per cent. Before the lift,
bility was increased he asked the chairman whether he
believed the company would ever be able to pay one
farthing in the way. of dividend to the original share-
holders. The company had gut into a state of insolvency
and beggary, because they had not auditors selected from
the great body of shareholders, and the sooner the system
at present iu operation at the Palace was got rid of the
bettor. He would hold up both hands and a log, too, against
the proposal of the directors.
A SHAREHOLDER said the directors would never be able
to pay a dividend to the whole of the shareholders until
they had a theatre erected, which could be converted into a
concert-room, a ball• room, and in which operatic, dramatic,
and equestrian performances could be given. He thought
if they broke up the uniformity of the building by erecting
a theatre in preference to reconstructing the tropical de-
partment, they would thereby create a source that would
be remunerative to the highest degree. [Owing to the
confusion created towards the end of the westing no are
unable to state whether the motion of the chairman was
assented to or not.l

Bank of England Returns,—This Evening.

he Act 7th awl Bth Victoria.
`Veduesday, March 13, 1867.

An Account, pursuant to t,
p. 32, for the week ending X

ISSUE DE'

'AILTMENT.

Notes issued ....433,236,990 Govan:mit. Debt £11,015,100
Other Securities 3,981,900
Gold Coin and
Bullion
___ .. ...

Silver Bullion ....

X 33,236,990