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expended or .
years than the Fun' of
not always known how much Scotia.
way. We don't get more than our share ce,
and we are obliged to keep a pretty sharp look ..
to get it ; but at the same time, it is not the ease
that Scotland is overlooked ; and in this document,
though I will not trouble you with reading it just
now, there are some very important matters, such
as the new Register-office, the Industrial Museum,
new post-offices in Dundee and Perth, improvements
at Holyrood, &c. Now, about the Reform .Bid--I
don't agree with my lion. friend and colleague, and
that ig almost the only thing on which we dotal
agrP'e. I anticipate no danger from that bill of the
government. I am not afraid of letting the working
classes have the franchise. (Hear.) I think, on the
other hand, that they must be let into the franchise,
and I know no better way of making them good
citizens and better citizens. If they are not so good
as we wish them—which I don't by any means ad-
wit —I no way of binding them more closely
to the classes above them than by allowing them
the mutual. advantage and privilege of the franchise;
and therefore in my views of reform I have nothing
to add and nothing to retract from the expressions
I have used on similar occasions. Ever since I was
in office, as far back as 1851,1 have maintained the
same opinions, both in public and in private, and I
have no fear whatever of the reduction of the frail_
chile interfering with the bulwark of the Constitu-
tion; and as to the propriety of introducing any mea-
sure on this matter, that depends entirely on its
prospects of success, but most assuredly I shall main-
tain for the future the very same principles I have
maintained for the past. (Cheers.) The Lord Advo-
cate then proceeded to speak for above an hour on
the annuity-tax question, vindicating his recent
measure,,ancl sho veing _that _every_praincipladt ;con- _
tamed Lad been borrowed from former bills which
had received the support of those who now opposed
him. He °Concluded a very masterly defence
with honour and integrity
of his conduct in tne matter by saying—l value the
honour of the position I hold as the representative
of this great community more than I can tell you,
tlhiaenredsis tohnaen
and there is no exertion and no sacrifice, consistent
would not make to retain it; but when I know
and self-respect, that I
that I have now settled a controversy of 30 years
maintain,
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principles
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whatever thatwh icyh
feelings
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remember with gratification, and that is that I was
many
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fe,
mainly instrumental in passing this
Annuity-tax
Bill. (Tremendous cheering and hissing.)
Mr. W. CHAMBERS moved a vote of thanks to
the hon. members.
The SOLICITOR•GENERAL seconded the motion.
Mr. THOMAS MENZIES, after some strong obser-
vations, which were delivered amid shouting, hiss-
ing, and cheering;and in which he condemned the
conduct of both the hon. gentlemen as "perfidious,"
moved the following amendment :
"That this meeting, considering the arbitrary
and unconstitutional character of the recent Act,
which professes to abolish, but in reality proposes
to perpetuate, the annuity-tax, and of the part
taken by the members for the city in introducing
and promoting that measure, hereby declare that
the members have lost the confidence of their con-
stituents, and the meeting
.requests them to
resign."
Mr. A. KERR seconded the amendment.
The LORD PROVOST then proceeded to put the
amendment and the inotion to the meeting, amid
considerable uproar. The numbers were pretty
nearly balanced, and the Lord Provost said he had
considerable difficulty in deciding on which side the
majority lay, but he rather thought it was in
favour of the motion. The announcement was re-
ceived with great cheering and hissing.
On the motion of Mr. BLACK, a vote of thanks
was passed to the Lord Prevost for his conduct in
the chair.
The meeting then quietly dispersed.

INDIA AND CHINA.

of course, such is dependent on supplies and the advices of
the home market. The total supply for the season is still
estimated not to exceed 400 chops. Country Greens—One
chop of fine Moyune is down, and is likely to be taken at
extreme rates. Price is likely to regulate the supply, and
it is considered probable that a good deal may be diverted
to this market, though it will be late in arriving.
At Macao tea continues to arrive, and prices keep steady.
The Janet Willis has filled up at this port, and the Rhin is
loading.

.(Uproar, and signs of impatience.) Corning to the
Reform Bill, he said, like many other men, I have
formed a notion of the manner in which Parliament
should be reformed. This theory I have repeatedly
propounded to my constituents; and, when the
question was before the House of Commons I felt
that. I should be guilty of unfaithfulness if, when
the Ministry appeared to be venturing on a danger-
ous course—(hisses and cheers)—l would have con •
sidered myself unworthy of being your represents-
tive—(A voice, " So you are")—if I had refrP,lled
from publicly giving my reasons for differi'itg from
a material part of the bill then under consideration.
(Loud cheers and hisses, and a voice, " Treaelieren
' Adam." Laughter.) My lord and gentlemen, I
can assure you that I felt it no easy task to screw
up my courage to sacrifice the good opinion of
statesmen whom I admired and followed, and
the approbation of friends whom 1 highly
valued. The theory I then maintained ova::
the same as I have again and again propounded
in public meetings at home, that the system of
Parliamentary representation is a mere machine—
an instrument for the promotion of good govern-
ment, and that if it fret out of gear or defective,
it should be repaired and improved, but that the
proposed alteration must first be proved to be neces-
sary to the well-working of the machine. (" Oh,
oh," and a voice, " You're a hi.,11 Tory.") I hold
that the franchise is not a ri~iit, but a trust. I
maintain that it is a sacred trust to be exercised
for the benefit of the community, and that the only
claim that any class can have for being invested
with this trust must be founded on their qualifica-
tions to exercise it ; and before any change should
be made it should first be proved that the commu-
nity will he benefited by it. Now, here let me ob-
serve that I distinctly and decidedly again and
again declared that I would not pledge myself to
any plan of Parliamentary Reform, but would leave
myself free to be guided by circumstances. (Hear,
hear, and hisses.) At that time, and in the circum-
stances we were then placed, I was disposed to re-
commend £6. And why ? Because, in the first place,
Lord J. Russell had moved and carried a resolution
against Mr. Disraeli proposing, among other things,
£6 as the limit of the franchise, and. on that occa-
sion I voted with my party in what was really a
party motion—(hisses)—and thus got in some de-
gree committed, although if I had voted on the
other side I should have been worse committed still,
for then Mr. Disraeli, for the Protectionist party,
showed their willingness to offer the bribe to the
Radicals, or to come even lower ; and Mr. Bright,
besides many of those who glory in the name of
Advanced Liberals—(cheers and laughter), would
hardly be content with a £5 franchise, but would
only take it as an instalment. (" Hear," and a voice,
" Quite right, too.") All parties in the House of
Commons appeared to me to be committed to the
lowering of the franchise, and in the circumstances
I was disposed to recommend the highest limit that
was likely to be got; but when the question came
to be looked at by members more carefully they
found that the numbers of the new constituency
would be so great that they would give an undue
preponderance to one class, and that class the
lowest (cries of " Oh, oh !"), and surely he would
be a bold man who would maintain that, for the
purpose of improving the machine, the inhabitants
of houses between £lO and £6 rent would infuse
into it more intelligence and independence than the
inhabitants of houses at £lO and upwards. (A
voice, "So they would.") If they arc no more than
equal to those already intrusted with the franchise,
they would not improve, but would most probably
encumber the machine (cries of " Oh, oh !") ; and if
they are not equal in qualifications, then they will
infuse a deteriorating principle into it. (Hisses,
and a voice in the gallery, " We are the people.")
About this time that very class of men—the
skilled workmen—indicated the use to which
they would put political power if intrusted to
their hands, by entering into one of tho most
dangerous and suicidal combinations (Hear," and
hisses) ; for a mere delusion they sacrificed the
interests of the public, their own comfort, and
the health and happiness of their wives and
children. (Cheers, and a voice, " Mind the Queen's
Park meeting,") At the same time, Mr. Potter, the
leader of the London strike, in his evidence before a
committee of the House of Commons, testified that
the London Secret Committee of the Trades' Union
could influence 600,000 workmen in all parts of the
kingdom. (A voice, " Prove it," and " That is
false.") When all these circumstances were fairly
brought to light and considered, many of the mem-
bers, and even some of those who rejoice in the
name of Advanced Liberals, were staggered, and
coincided in my views. (Hisses.) I will only say
that I was convinced then, and am convinced still,
that what I stated in the House of Commons was the
truth—(hisses and cheers)—and I considered it a
sacred duty to declare it, whatever might be the con-
sequence. (Prolonged cheers.) Ido not object to a
fair proportion of the working classes being ad-
mitted to the franchise, but don't let us be swamped
by them. (Hisses, and a voice, " Resign.") lam
not unwilling to admit a large proportion of the
working classes. (Impatience.) What I say is this,
I consider that a safe plan would be to give votes
to the holders of property yielding 40s. a year,
whether a freehold or not ; and I would reduce the
county franchise from £5O to £lO. (Cheers and
hisses.) From what I have seen of the House of
Commons, I doubt if any party will be able to con-
struct a spick-and-span new Reform Bill. Al-
though the bit-by-bit procedure has been ridiculed,
I am convinced that it is the only one that will
succeed; and if Ministers would adopt Mr. Locke
King's measure for reducing the county franchise,
I have little doubt that it would be carried.
(Hear, hear.) Mr. Black then entered into a
lengthened defence of his conduct in regard to
the Annuity Tax Bill, and in having sup-
ported the Lord Advocate's Bill, which offended
thd Voluntary Dissenters, while he sacrificed his
own bill of 1E57, which satisfied them. He said
that, with Parliament showing diminishing majo-
rities for the Church-rates Bill, it might have taken
10 or even 20 years in carrying; and, having no
chance of carrying his own bill, he gave his sup•
port to that of the Lord-Advocate, that the impor-
taut advantages which it conferred should not be
lost to the community.

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INDIA.

The following is the letter of our (Tioies) Cal-
cutta correspondent :--
CALCUTTA, Nov. 23.

The most important announcement that I can
make in this letter is this, that the Nana is still
living. He is cucamped with three or ibur thou-
sand followers in Thibet, just beyond the Nepaul
frontier, and in a country over NN hich Jung Balla-
door can claim no supremacy. He has plenty of
money, and is able to subsist his followers without
committing depredations on the villagers. He is
thus not only tolerated but cherished, and the
inhabitants have aided him in his attempt to con-
ceal the fact of his existence from our authorities.
It may appear strange thus to assert that a man,
the story of whose dath has been so circumstan-
tially told, regarding whose demise the members of
the Oude Commission, in their report recently
published, assert that no reasonable doubt can exist,
is still alive and at the head of a military force. I
have, nevertheless, the best reasons for knowing it
to be true. The Supreme Government is likewise
cognizant of the fact, and has debated as to the
proper course to be pursued under such circum-
stances. It has come to the resolution not to
interfere actively in the matter, but to keep a
watchful eye on the frontier upon which a descent
from Thibet would appear most feasible. Admit-
ting, then, the fact of the existence of the Nana,
the question arises, how, up to the present moment
has he succeeded in deluding and hoodwinking not
only the British public arid the authorities, but the
peoplemof India, many even of, his former satellites
and 'Meng F.ieititingl3Tifttidodi. pal info the
snare and declared his implicit credence in the
story of his demise. He must be indeed a man
fertile in expedients who could deceive a whole
people and an entire magistracy, all more or less
interested in his life, on a point on which at first
sight there would appear to be little scope for
deception. The story, of which -we have at
present but faint outlines, will, when disclosed
in its integrity, doubtless take a place among the
most strange of the very many strange incidents of
personal adventure in which Indian history abounds.
Up to the month of August last not a doubt
remained on the minds of anyone as to the fate of
the Nana. It was believed that he had died of
the fever in the jungles. This was asserted by his
fellow rebels and by everyone who had had any
opportunity of inquiring into the matter. The
statement was accepted far and wide. his former
retainers of Bit boor believed it, and two of his wives
left behind in Hindostan showed their faith in the
rumour by performing that religious ceremony
which constitutes them irrevocably widows, Yet
all this time the Nana, Bala Rao his brother, Deoi
Buksh, his commander-in-chief, were alive and at
the head of an army of some thousands of men, with
elephants in abundance, and some 30 fieldpieces.
The course they adopted is briefly stated as follows :
—When in November and December last year a
British force under Colonel. Holditch advanced,
with the permission of Jung Bahadoor, towards the
Nepauleso frontier, that eminent Minister, foresee-
seeing all the credit which must result from doing
that himself which otherwise we should have ac
complisbed without him, suddenly gave evidence
that he was going to support us in real earnest. The
notice of his intentions was conveyed to the rebels,
then divided into bodies, and acknowledging two
distinct authorities. One of these, with whom Khan
Bahadoor Khan, Mummoo Khan, and other Maho-
medan chieftains of Oude and Rohilcund were con -
nected, acted up to the dictates of their creed, and,
wearied with a hopeless resistance, accepted a fate
which appeared to them to be sooner or later inevi-
table. The Nana and his party, on the other hand,
resolved to have one more stroke for life, and pos-
sibly, under more favourable auspices, for power.,
From the statement furnished by a native who has
just escaped from their camp, it appears that they
moved northwards into the hills, and marched 15
days directly onwards without halting. Before
doing this each of the Chiefs cut off the little fin-
ger of his right hand, and caused funeral obsequies
to be performed over it. This was done with the
fullest ceremony accorded to a corpse. The finger
was burnt, the usual signs of mourning were
made, and it appeared to all not in the secret that
it was actually the Chief who was thus disposed
of. The rumour of this occurrence speedily
spread, and was everywhere believed. How could
it be otherwise, when some were able to assert that
they were actually present at the obsequies ? This
was the account brought by Khan Bahadoor Khan
and others to Lucknow at the beginning of the
present year, and this the nature of the evidence
upon which the Oude Commission came to the con-
clusion that the Nana, Bala Rao, and Azi Moollah
had perished miserably in the jungles. It was
under cover of this ruse that the Nana and his
party moved into the hills. After marching 15 days
they came upon the mountains which separate
Nepaul from Thibet. They moved beyond these to
a little town called Thoowaria, where, at the time
of the escape of the informant—last August—they
were yet encamped. Of their manner of life, and of
the resolution at which our Government has arrived,
I have spoken above. It is possible, however, that
the matter may not rest here. Sir H. Rose is on his
way to Goruckpore, our frontier station in the
direction of the Nepaulese and Thibet hills. He
will there have an opportunity of conversing with
the escaped native, and of comparing his statement
with others which I am sure have since been re-
ceived, as to the nature of the locality and its facility
of access to the plains. A deadly enemy, having at
his disposal some 4,000 or 5,000 men, and 30 guns,
might commit for the moment terrible depredations.
Although the Nana will, if lie knows his own in-
terest, keep quiet:, it would be unwise to leave any
portion of our frontier to tempt his inroads, and
this, you may be well assured, Sir Hugh Rose will
not do.

TILE NAVY.

Preparations on an extensive Feale have been
made at Blackwall by Messrs. Mare and Co. for
launching her Majesty's iron-clad screw steamship
Warrior to morrow. A s the launch is expected to
be attended with rnbre than ordinary difficulties
their lordships Lave instructed the authorities at
Woolwich to render whatever assistance may be
required. A large amount of coloured bunting has
been sur'plied for decorations, and cables, hydraulic
cranes, &e., have been provided in case of mechani-
cal force of great power being rendered necessary.
An Admiralty order was yesterday received at
Woolwich and other dockyards announcing their
lordships' approval of the proposed plan of forming
a proportion of the storehouse labourers into an
established first class, with an increased pay of 6d.
per day, or 21s. per week, instead of 18s. as at pre-
sent. The arrangement is to date from the 27th
of December.

Her Majesty's screw corvette Scylla, Commander
it. Lambert, and screw frigate Amphion, Capt. T.
Cochrane, left Valetta on the 15th inst.—the former
for the Piraeus and the Levant, and the latter for
Sicily. Her Majesty's line-of.battle ship Orion,
Capt. J. Frere, left on the 20th inst. for Corfu, a
vessel from that island coming down there to take
her place. The Victor Emmanuel, Capt. W. Clif-
ford, C. 8., is still there under repair, and will take
a long time to complete. Besides the Hibernia
receiving-ship, flag of Rear. Admiral Codrington,
there were only three British men-of-war at Malta,
the Victor Emmanuel, the Melpomene, and the
Assurance gunboat, which last reached there on
the 22d of December from Corfu with despatches
and a mail.
A letter from Corfu of the 18th inst. says :
"The Assurance gunboat will leave to-morrow with
a mail for Malta., The gunboat Foxhound arrivod
yesterday from Malta, and is still in harbour. The
Caesar line-of-battle ship came into port on the
night of the 14th inst. ; and a liner, I believe the
James Watt, left for Malta or Naples on the following
morning. This morning the Mars and London sailed
out of the channel for a cruise, and as I am writing
the Marlborough, which had returned from a cruise
of two days, has hoisted sail, and is beating about
the port. I expect all the ships that aro here at
present will leave to-day ; but it is not likely that
Admiral Martin will allow the fleet to spend their
Christmas at sea."

In my letter via Bombay I gave you a concise
account of the severe measures taken by the Com-
mander-in-Chief at Dinapore, and I referred to the
excellent effect which had resulted from his prompt
and resolute conduct on that occasion. Letters from
several other stations have since been received, and
in all it is asserted that some such measure was ab-
solutely necessary. Disci Wine was becoming a mere
mockery, and, bad not some severe step been taken,
the orders of officers in many places would have
come to be disregarded. Sir Hugh has nipped
the evil in the bud, and by the sacrifice
of one mutineer and the disgrace of one corps
has put an end to insubordination. In India
his conduct on this trying occasion has been
loudly applauded, and, being the strongest in-
stance of the many in which Sir Hugh has shown
a determination to be guided by the principles of
impartiality and even-handed justice, it has sufficed
to confirm the anticipations that were formed; and
to secure for him the respect and affection of officers
and men. Il is Excellency was approaching Benares
when last heard of; thence he was to proceed to
the frontier station of Goruckpore before joining
his camp at Cawnpore.
Lord Canning left Calcutta for his tour in the
north-west on the 20th inst.
I enclose the latest commercial news:—

Leiters have been received from Messina to
the 18th of December, announcing the arrival there
of 2,500 Piedmontese troops ; 1,500 more were ex-
pected. They were very well received by the
people. The commandant of the citadel still held
out. It was not believed he would surrender till
after the fall of Gaeta, unless forced to do so. Per-
fect tranquillity reigned throughout the island.
Preparations were being made for the election of
the deputies to sit in the forthcoming Italian Par-
liament..
The following appointments were made yesterday
at the Admiralty:—G. R. Hope, mate
Ariadne ; A. W. Miller, master's-assistan, tto tl-
-
to the
Donegal; and W. F. E. Mprison,
Paymaster, to
the Trincomalee.

Government securities have been dull ; there seem to be
mote sellers than buyers. There is a report of a rise at
Bombay of 2 per cent. in the rates all round.
The quotations in our market aro as follow :
Sicca Rupee Four per Cents. 19 12 to 20 4 per cent dis.
Company's Rupee Four per
Cents.
Public Works Five per Cents

The LORD-ADVOCATE, after having risen up and
sat down three time, unable to make himself heard
amidst the clamour with which he was received,
at length obtained a hearing by the interposition of
the Chair. After some preliminary remarks, he said
in the last session of Parliament, though there vas
not a great deal of Imperial business transacted,
we in Scotland had our fair share of the results.
(Hear, hear.) We carried ten important mea-
sures. We carried, among other things, no doubt,
this Annuity Tax Bill—(laughter, hooting, and
cheers)—but we carried some other things, which,
though not equally exciting, may be equally im-
portant. We carried, in the first instance, the
Prisons Bill, by which we had an opportu_
nity of redressing what I considered a great • •
injus-
tice—l mean the proportion of rates pay able be-
tween the burgh and the county. There
a bill of very considerable consequence Which was
alsoeve
passed for Sheriff Court accommodation.
We passed a bill also in regard to the flleirerai nr.g)
fisheries, one in regard to the census, and also a
bill for the Industrial Museum in Edinburgh, and
I am happy to say that the plans for that building
have now been approved, and that it will be con-
structed witkout any delay. We passed the Titles
to Lands Bill, a bill for the amendment of the
bankruptcy law, the and we passed a bill for
in-
ventory duty on heritable securities. Now, I say
that this, if
not a brilliant, is at least a respect-
able bud
get—espeeially for a Parliament of which
it is said that they talk much but do little. It is,
at 'all events, enough to show that we have not
. been idle, bold in my hand a document that

Rupee 3 8 to 3 12 7,
New Five-and-a-Half per

Cents. Rupee 1 12 to 2 0

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Exchange on London—Up to the 20th inst., just before

the native holidays, busincss for the mail was done to a
very fair extent in local bank bills at 2-1 k at six months'
sight. First-class and other credits have been sold at 2-1 k
to 2-11, the latter to only a trifling extent.
The banks being no longer sellers, the rates have some-
what receded, to 2-1 to 2-Ik.
There is nothing doing in China bills ; there are buyers,
but few sellers ; we may quote rate at 220 r. per 100.

CHINA.

HONG KONG, Nov. 16.

During the past fortnight the demand for imports has
been limited, and prices for some descriptions have slightly
declined. T-cloths have met with fair inquiry. The fol•.
lowing are the sales reported at Hong Kong and Canton,
and quotations at the latter place, duty paid, cash two
months:— _

Cotton—Bombay ; sales, 9,750 bales ; prices about four
nme, lower ; good to fine, 7t. Gm. to St. sm. ; medium to
good, tit. Gm. to 7t. 4m. ; common, st. Orn. to fit sm.
Madras ; no sales.
Cotton Yarn—Sales amount to only 97 bales. Prices
remain as before, but have a downward tendency.
Canton Silk—Settlements are very trifling. Stock about
800 bales.

Tea—During the fortnight a considerable business has
been done in congou, and again at irregular rates. Dealers
are firm owing to the heavy loss they are incurring, and the
feeling is in favour therefore of no material decline, though,