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March 9, 1804.
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IMPERIAL PARL LIAM" NT.

HOUSE OF PEERS.

'TUESDAY, MARCH 13.

THE Bills before the House were forwarded in
their respedive stages, and some routine bosiness
was disposed of.
Sir J. W. ANDERSON, attended by several Mem-
bers, brought up Boycleil's Pidure Lottery Bill
from the Commons.
The Irish Priests Orders' Bill was presented by
Dr. Dt7IGENAN, and a few private Bills were
brought up by Mr. BALDWIN and other Gentle-
men.

On the questicn for the first reading of Boydell's
• Picture Lottery Bill being put,
The Earl of SUFFOLK rose, not to oppose the
Biti, which he was rather friendly to, but to make
a few observations upon a subject of some national
importance, and which he conceived in some degree
connected with the measure under consideration.
.\Vhat he principally alluded to was the present state ,
of the Art of Engraving in this Couutry, which
he conceived, either in consequence of the neglect
of the Artists employed, or of having in general
fatten into incompetent hands, to have considerably
declined of lace. In former periods the superior
execution of the English Artists in that line, not
only enhanced the credit and the -reputation of the
.Country in that resped, but produced effects of no
small consideration with resneet to its commerce
and revenue. The first English print which found
its way to the Continent was, he. believed, that
fine engraving from the pieture of the death of Gee
neral Wolfe ; this was executed by that ingenious
and admirable Engraver, Mr. Woollett, who had
expended great pains and trouble, and employed an
interval of three or four years in producing that
exquisite specimen of the Art : these successful
exertions deservedly gained in the event 6coo!. or
aoool. There was also another engraving, a copy
of which he had in his possession, namely, the
Battle of La Hogue, which did the greatest honour
to the Artist who engraved it, and by which, he
believed, the sum of 4.0001. or soool. were de-
servedly gained. So by these two prints only a
profit of about 12,0001. accrued to an Artist of this
Country. He adverted to these facts chiefly to shew
what English Artists were capable of performing,
and who at one period were unrivalled by those of
any other nation. This, he was sorry to have oc-
easier) to observe, was far from being the case at
present, and to this cause was perhaps chiefly to
be attributed the defalcation which of late years the
Revenue exeerienced on that Lead, in consequence
of the diminished exportation of the article alluded
to ; and this amounted to a very considerable sum.
He repeated, lie did not mean to oppose the Bill ;
Tie had the *hest respea for the worthy Alderman
in whose behalf is was brought forward, and whose
'spirit arid exertions in the line in question'deserved
the highest encouragement and applause (Mr. Alde:-.
loan Boydell Walrbelovv the Bar.) To him' no part
'of what lie had olOj'rved was applied; bat l;e.thought
it incumbent.upon him us take the epportunity, to
throw out what -very forcibly struck him, in the way
:of suggestion, and in the lio.pc that what he said might
be produalve, in some degree, of beneficial conse-
aesquaneel.-
..:- The -Bill was then ordered to be read a. first t:irne
Accordingly the title and breviate of the Bill were
read by
LORD -CHANCELLOR, who- afterwards
einitted the Woolsack; and observed, tier eon-
Ctieretilti part of what had faihen frjoi toe Noble
-Earl who had just spoken ; but first,_ with re-
•speCt• to the Bill itself, he observed he was not
friendly to the general Principle of Bills-of? that de-
s.ctiption-; they should be, very cautiously adalit-
• tech--and aanCtioned by the Legislature only upon
`vet), particular and special oceasionsln the
prtnent instance the, seipport which he gave the
Bill j st read, proceeded from the very highs,
sense he ervertained of the- merits of very
respectable Magistrate who solicited the Measure,
to whose great and spirited exertions in heinging
the Sister. Arts which were the subject of the
Bill, to the very high state of perfettion in which
they then manifestly were, the Public and the
Country owed much, and on, chat ground he agreed
with the Noble Earl that great indulgence and en_
couragement were due. After some Cirther ohaer_
vatioos on this point, the Noble and Learned Lord
preceeded to observe that be agreed with the Noble
Earl that the Arts alluded to had of late years con.
idderahly dealined in this Country, and that 'its
Comtheree, in those respede, was by no means in
so flourishing 'a state as it had been ; hut he differed
from his Lordship as to the causes of these effects ;
they were by no means, he thought, owing to the
decline of talent or perseverance in this Country, to
rrhe want of eminent Painters, or adequate En_
gravers, but the falling off was, in a great degree,
sr be attributed to the unprecedented and uojustifia-
_.-spdpCt ot; a certain Nation on the Continent,
w $ xertions were calcalated :to draw, as to a
col:hewn cc within itself,. every thiog.that was
rare or valuala!Lx•i-4 the kind;- and which had hither-
-to been piffe4,l,-ed. tp aeotain, ureenol.,ested in other
Countries ; at-lett] this they effeCted, not by the fair
and ordinary ri-.,ode of purchasing such 'articles, but
by theeuriexatri:pled praelice of forcibly taking them
irons the resp' eciive Countries to which-they be-
longed.
The other brought "up from the Commons,
were then
,eeverally read a Lrst time ; efier. which
the House. adjourned, till ..h.IALF PAST TWO
0"cloCk fei-morrow, when some Judicial Business
etands:upon order..

,

HOUSE OF COMMOIVq.

TUESDAY, MARCH 13.

Mr. CoARy moved a .new writ for the City of
Dublin, in the room of jotiN CLAUDII.I3 Bzu.r.s-
-4oßp,. Esq. who has accepted the office of 's-
Cheator of Ulster.
An Account was presented from the Starpp Office
of the arrears and Balancc3 from, the distri_
tutors of -Stamps.—Ordered to lie on the Table.
D4r[V;o:rst-r-rART moved that a COMMittee be
;ppointed to prepare an account of the allowance 4

to Adjutants and Serjeant_Majors in the Militia.—
Ot,!ert'd.

'Mr. VANS/TTART moved that a Committee be
appointed to prepare an Estimate of the Pay and
Coating of the Militia for Great Britain and
Ireland. •

The Neutral Ships Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed to_morrow.—The
Irish Malt Bill went through a Committee, and
the report was ordered to be received tomorrow.
The CHANCELLUR of the EXCHEQUER
rose, in pursuance of a notice he had given in the
last Session, and renewed in the 'present, to move
far a Committee to inquire into the difference.of
duty that ought to prevail between Malt made
from English, Barley, and Malt made from Scotch
Barley and Big. By the Ad of Union, it was
provided that Scdtland should only con►ribute one-
half of the Malt duties then subsisting. When the
last duty was imposed, in consequence of a represen.
tatiora from the Landed Interest in Scotland, Parlia-
_
merit was induced to lay a• smaller duty on Malt
made from Scotch Barley, than upon that which
was made train. English Barley. In making this
Motion to inquire whether any difference should
subsist, he did not mean to admit that there could
he the slightest question upon the At of Union ;
he only did it in c rlipliance with the wishes of the
Landed Interest of Scotland. He was desirous not
to give any opinion upon the question at present, or
to prejudge it in any manner ; his objel was to
have the subjeifi fully and fairly investigated.—He
concluded with moving for the Committee.
The Motion was agreed to, and the Committee
named.

Lord A. HAMILTON said, as this was a question
that entirely related to Scotland, he hoped that all
the Members for Scotland would be appointed on
the Committee.

The C 11.1111 CELLO R of the EXCHEQUE
said, he should oppose any proposition of that kind,
because it was a question that materially aOded the
Landed Interest of England ; at the same time, he
would not oppose the nomination of Any Gentleman
whom the Noble Lord should -propose to be on the
Committee,
Alter- a few words from Mr. COKE, the Com-
mittee at first proposed was agreed to, with the ad.
dition of Lord DOUGLAS.

Mr. CURRY moved the Order of the Dty for
going into a Committee on the Irish Duty
'Sir 301 IN IviWPQRT said, that after repeat.
ing his thanks to the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
CURRY) for the candour and liberality he had shewn,
and also expressing the thanks of his Constituents,
he. rose to express his hopes that the Right Hon.
Gentleman would (considering that the schedule
might not have been examined in Ireland, in
general, with that attention that it required) relin.
quish his intention of proposing this as a permanent
Bill at present, bur that he would now consent to
vote the duties for one year. He was perfektly of
opinion that great advantage would result to Ireland
from voting these duties permanently, and .making
the system to assimilate as nearly al possihle to
Great Britain., and therefore he only wished the de-
lay of one .Session, in order to give the Mercantile
People- of- Ireland full time to consider the suhjel.
He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman, with a con-
tinuance of that candid disposition he had manifest-
ed. would feel the necessity of complying with the
wishes, -the feelings, and -perhaps the pt-judices of
the people:of Ireland. . -lle.thought it right to 'add,
_.that it.appeped to; trim that uhcommon pains had
bePrm used..in• preparing this schedule, both with
respeel to accuracy, and to consult the intereit of
-
the Mercantile People -tif Ireland. He trusted,
therefore., that. the Right Hon. Gentleman would
consent to postpone making these duties permanent ,
till next Session.

• ,
Mr. LORRY seid, that the measure then under
the consideration-of-the House; was one of which
notice had been giveo,fer three Sessions.-- the
_last- Session the Schedule was, afinally sprepared,
without limitation. In *the present Session a Sche-
dule was prepared, departing in some particulars
.front the Schedule of last Session, and it was circu-
lated with as much diligence as was in the power of
the Government of Ireland ; and lte.ltad had isle sa.
tisfattion, as he had before .srated, of receiving the
approbation of a great part of the IVlerc:mtile
est oClreland. He had received' the approbation of
that Mercantile City, represented by the Hon. Ba-
ronet who had spoken so favourably of his exertions.
In the city of Cork the greatest satisfaaton pre.
vailed, not withstanding that upon some points
their wishes hail not been complied with. With
regard to 'the Merchants of Dublin, lie wished to
say a fetal; words, because a Right Hon. Gentleman
had said, that there .were thirty-eight articles with
which they were dissatisfied. With regard to these
thirty-eight articles, there were in faet but four in
which their wishes were not complied with. The
first of these four articles was foreign Herrings,
the Export duty upon them was not taken Off; and
this was done with a view to encourage the British
and Irish Fisheries ; but even if- this duty were
taken off, it could not .he. supposed r4at they
were not to he sUbjea to the same burthens as
-British and Irish Herrings, that is to say, the
duty upon and .Staves, and those duties
amounted to two-thirds of the duty upon foreign
Herrings, "SO that the difference 'Was in fad
,very
The second article was Foreign Oils. It
was desired that the duty should be lowered ; this
had been done, but not to the.extent proposed. It
had 'peen lowered to. assiMilate..it with the duty in
the British Schedule,' which' (lad been laid on with
a view to encourage the British Fishety, and if it
was placed in the same situation, he conceived that
here was no ground for coriiplaint. The third ar-
ticle was Foreign Hops; had before' stated the
grounds upon which their wishes in this article was
resisted, vii, to encourage 'the growth of British
.H9ps. The third article was a desire they express.
cd that all duties should he taken off all Exports,
This was a propr;iition which he really could' not
have presumed to make to the House, He wished
to speak of the. Merchants of -Dublin, with the
greatest resped ; they were men of the greatest re-
speetability, and is point of capital, compared wish
the extent of their trade, were rm.: irferior to any
set of*Mereliants in the world. With regard tq the
remaining articles of the 38 which had'heen
tioned, viz, Dregs, Dye Stuffs, Foreign Salt, Dietr.

skins, Bear-skins, Cocoa Nuts, and a variety of
other articles, which it was unnecessary to enu-
merate, their Wishes had- all been complied- with.
He therefore would contend that these Schedules
had all been made with the greatest care and minute.
ness, and had met with the general approbation of
the Merchants of Ireland. But as it had been re.
presented to him by many Gentlemen of the greatest
respeCtability, both in public and private, that full
opportunity had not been given to the Mer-
chants of Ireland to consider this subjea, he was
sure it never could be the wish of Ministers
not to coincide with their wishes, if it could
he done without injury to the Public Service.
He was therefore disposed to comply with the wish
expressed by the Hon. Baronet, and only to vote
the duties at present for one year, in order to give
the fullest opportunity of examining the subjeCl, and
to give every possible proof of the wishes of Go.:
vernment to comply with the desire of the Mer-
chants of Iceland. But at the same time that he
maintained the propriety of the Schedules, he. was
glad that this discussion had taken place, because it
proved the general concurrence of opinion upon the.
propriety of making these duties perpetual. In
consenting to move these duties for, one year at
present, he wished -not to be understood to pledge
himself that the Schedule that would be presented
next year would be the same as that presented this
year ; he only pledged himself that it should be
laid before the people of Ireland time enough to
enable them to coniider the subje& maturely.—He
hoped therefore that in conceding to the wishes-of
many of the Mercantile People of Ireland; it would
not he considered as any dereliction or abandonment
of the principles he had advanced ; he should there-
fore in the Committee move a clause to limit the
duration of the Bill for one year. There was how-
ever one point which he wished to Mention, which
was, that the duties would expire on the zsth of
March ISos, and as the Irish Members were prevent-
ed by their military duties early in the Session, con-
siderable inconvenience was felt from the duties ex-
piring so soon ; he therefore suggested the pro-
priety of taking them fur five quarters instead of
four.

Mr. FOSTER said, he thought it would be better
not to limit the duration of the Bill, which con.
tained many permanent regulations, but to vote the
duties for one year as usual. _ _

Mr. COk WY said, he did not wish to vote them
for five quarters il-there was any olijeetion to it,
but he should consider this as sufficient notice, if
in the early part of next Session he proposed to
continue the duties for three-months longer, in order
to give ample time to consider the subjed..
Mr. BOROUGHS concurred with those Gen-:
deepen who had borne testimony to the candour
and liberality of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and
said, that he conceived that the notice given by
the Right Honourable Gentleman- would .be suf.
ficient to justify him in bringing forward this sub,.
jeer} early next Session.
Mr. CARR also expressed. Ms thanks to. the
Right Honourable Gentlemiti for the liberality and
candour he had manifested upon. this subjeEt.
After a feW words from Mr,. Fox, and Mr.'
HuTCHINsoN, the Motion for going into a Com.
mittee was-agreed to, and the Boitse::cordingly
resolved itself into a Committee. •
Mr• CORTY prerotroa Clauvo to I mat 0)4 Juni.
tionof the Bill to one year. ' •
Mr. FOSTER said he Would not objea to this
Motion, lot he thought it would v
be better to ote
the Duties for one year, and not: to limit the dura-
tion of the Bill, which contained a number of re.
gulations, ,which it would not. lie wise to limit to

One year. .1,
Mr. ORMSRY said, that this. Bill contained
Clause to enable the Officers "t 4 colle& all arrears
of Doty, and he supposed. the Bill of next year
would contain a 'imilarCliUse.
_There was one
circumstance which he wished 63 meniinn, which
was, that in the former Bill• there'`l,vas a Clause to
continue the regulations respefting"the American
Treaty during the continuance of that Treaty;
The Clause in the present Bill:continued theo
regulations for one year,. provid&-i the Treaty
should continue so long,.
The Motion of Mr; C9Rlty- was agreed to, and
the „Bill passed the Committee, and the Report was
ordered to be received to-morrow.

The Hoose having resolved itself into a.Commit
tee of the whole. House upon the Irish :buttes Bill,
went through it, and 't he House having resumed; the
Report was ordered to be received to,porrow.