The Sun.
London, England, 1867-03-26 00:00:00

THE VOLUNTEERS.

Lord VIVIAN would ask the Under Secretary of
State for War whether resolutions relative to the conduct
of ♦olunteers during civil outbreaks had yet been framed ?

Lord LONGFORD said that those resolutions were
about to be framed.

The subject then dropped.
THE IRISH CONSTABULARY.

Lord LIFFORD, in moving for returns concerning the
Irish constabulary, said that in reviewing that extraordi-
nary outbreak in Ireland, that the most extraordinary
feature was the conduct of the Irish police. The members
of that force were not derived from the middle classes, but
were the children of small farmers, and throughout all the
late disturbances they had behaved with the utmost loyalty.
This showed that a few years of good treatment
had eradicated those feelings which pervaded the
minds of a certain section of the population. He
(Lord Lifford) was not one of those who thought that
there were no wrongs to redress in Ireland. He would
like to see an equality in the churches, and that the farmer
should have clearer tenant rights. It showed that there
was really no great dissatisfaction amongst those classes
in Ireland. The curious fact which he wished to direct
their attention to was the circumstances that those who
had been the most determined defenders of the Govern-
ment in Ireland had been men springing from a class
who were considered to be most hostile. (Hear, hoar.)
He should move for the returns of a list of the police sta-
tions in Ireland, and the names of the officers engaged at
them, and all those who were killed or wounded in the late
outbreak.

Lord DERBY said that he quite agreed with his noble
friend with the eulogium that he had passed on the Irish
constabulary, and it would be satisfactory to know that,
with regard to them, it was the intention of her Majesty's
Government to propose in the House of Commons to vote
a sum of money to be distributed among them, and also
certain badges of honour.
The Earl of CORK quite agreed with the remarks that
had fallen from the noble earl, and was glad that her
Majesty's Government proposed to mark their apprecia-
tion of the conduct of the constabulary.
The Duke of CAMBRIDGE said that it was pleasing
to contemplate the admirable manner ii, which the con-
stabulary had conducted themselves under such trying
duties as they had lately been called on to perform.
(Hear, hear.)

Lord KIMBERLEY expressed his great satisfaction at
the conduct of the Irish constabulary.
The Duke of CAMBRIDGE could not allow this oppor-
tunity to pass without saying that the troops have behaved
in the most admirable manner, notwithstanding the severe
labours imposed upon them and the inclement weather
under which they had been called upon to act.
The motion was then agreed to.
The Metropolitan Poor Bill and the Trades Union Bill
having been read a third time, and passed,
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—LAST EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
WATERFORD ELECTION.
The select committee to try the merits of the petition
presented for the return for the last Waterford election
was sworn at the table.
NEW WRITS.
On the motion of Col. TAYLOR a new writ was ordered
to issue for Galway in the room of Mr. Morris.
A new writ was also ordered to issue from Trinity Col-
lege, Dublin, in the room of Mr. Chatterton.
THE REFORM BILL.
Lord ELCHO, on the part of Lord Grosvenor, gave
notice that in committee on the Reform Bill he should
move amendments to the effect of limiting its operation
to houses of the rateable value of £3, and fixing the per-
sonal payment of rates at the same amount.
Sir E. DERING gave notice of his intention of moving
an amendment, the effect of which would be to reduce the
ccuuty qualification from £l3 to £l2.
Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice of his intention to move
amendments in order to give a lodger fenchise.
In reply to Mr. BRIGHT,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
was not aware of the rumours relative to the postpone-
m'nt of the committee on the Reform Bill until after Easter.
They had not yet decided whether the bill should be read a
second time, therefore they would excuse him from fixing
the time at which it would be committed. The course
pursued would be strictly Parliamentary.
ENGLAND AND AMERICA.
In reply to Mr. SHAW LEPEVEE,
Lord STANLEY said the correspondence between the
two countries relative to claims arising on both sides
during the war had not yet been concluded, and ho there-
fore could not at present lay the papers on the table. He
would take that opportunity of noticing a statement that
bad appeared in the newspapers that communications
of a very unfriendly nature had been received by her
Majesty's Government from the Government at Washing-
ton. There was no truth whatever in such a statement.
RAILWAY DEBENTURES.
Mr. CRAWFORD gave notice that to-morrow he should
call the attention of the house to the present state of rail-
way indebtedness with respect to debentures now falling
due, and also that he should move certain resolutions on
the subject.
In reply to Me. WARNER,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
probable number of new £lO borough voters who would
be added to the constituencies by that part of the bill
which provides for the redistribution of seats, irrespective
of the proposed alteration in the franchise, would be
68,000—viz., 32,000 above, and 36,000 below £lO.
REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE BILL.
At 5 o'clock the order of the day for the second reading
of the Representation of the People Bill was read by the
Clerk at the table.

Mr. GLADSTONE then rose and said—l think, sir,
call they voter, or mon who are to be ad-
that if the question were now being put, not upon the witted under £lO. The £9 voter, so far I
second reading, but upon tho third reading of the bill which can understand, differs from the £lO in this r©_
s
I hold in my hands, in the terms and with the effect which spect, that he is to reside two years instead of one, and
has now been framed, there can be little doubt it would that he can only qualify in respect to a house; and, finally,
have been rejected by a majority, perhaps by a large ma-
he must live in an entire house, as he cannot qualify in re -
jority, of this house. (Hear, hear.) I think further, sir, spect to part of a house. This is not an important part of
that if we were now considering the question whether you the subject, but the right hon. gentleman appeared to sus-
should leave the chair in order that we might go into coin- tain his proposition by stating this provision was in Lord
mate() on this bill, the result would be that a majority of Aberdeen's bill in 1854. The right hon. gentleman, however,
the house, and I should certainly be one of them, would be is inaccurate. If he refers to that bill, he will find it was
of opinion that, unless we can enter into committee armed framed with the idea that a simple mode of dealing with
and assisted by some declaration, or even some expression, the parliamentary franchise would be to cut off what I
from the G verament different from those which have yet may call the upper slice of the municipal constituency, and
been given to us and to the country, we should be wasting endow them with a parliamentary vote on a qualifying
the session and losing time. (Hear, hear.) But, sir, the rules I residence of two years and eight months. The provision
of this house, wisely framed as they are, give us two op- in this bill therefore is not the same as in the bill of Lord
Aberdeen. and if it were, the further experience and long
port unities, t we ordinary opportunities, of condemning the
principles of any bill that is proposed fur our consideration; discussion has shown that that provision was so defective
and what I would suggest to the house is, that we should that it was not introduced either into the bill of 1860 or of
endeavour to make use of those opportunities in order to 1866- A point, however, which is of far more importance
is the distinction, partly established by the present law
ascertain the principles of the Government, so that before
we come to the question of your leaving the chair, we and Partly attempted to be introduced by the bill, between
coiipound householders or the non-ratepaying householder
may have fair means of judgment upon the point then
submitted to us--namely, and
namely, upon the important question the
man toldrateillying householder. The right hon. gentle-
whether we are to undertake the task of dealing with
tome the other day that the compound householder
this bill in detail. I, therefore, for one, propose, in
7th
clause of this bill. (The
gay,
l lo
however, appears to me to be a clear error in the wasconstrue-
en joy'ifhe could got it, the- dual vote. That,
Chancellor
not
ae
assenting to the second reading of this bill, to assent to it as
a measure for extending and reducing the franchise, for the
tion of the
aif c
h ele irs of the
redistribution of seats, and for certain other purposes either Exchequer dissented.) That is to to
in themselves desirable, or at all events entitled, when compound householder. For he must pay rates, and there
is no provtision for his paying rates. He is to claim and
proposed by a Government, to be taken into consideration
tender es, which he could only do in the excessively
by the house. Now I shall describe the objects which,
rare instances
where the landlord so far as I know, are entertained either by the whole rhappened to be in arrear.
house, or by a great majority of the house, with refer-
Even, therefore, from the phantom dual vote the compound
once to the adjustment of this question. We all speak
householder is excluded. When it is said that the compound
of the desirableness of settlement, and perhaps the time householder is left in his present position, what does
! that come to ? The position of the compound householder
has now come when in most or possibly, I will put it, in