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London, England, 1858-07-07 00:00:00

HAINAULT FOREST (ALLOTMENT OF COMMONS)
81.
Thiq bill was read a third time and passed.
DURHAM COUNTY PALTINE JURISDICTION
BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
RAILWAYS ACP (IRELAND) CONTINUANCE
BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
Their lordships rose tt five minutes before eight.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock.
MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS BILL.

On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE asked the house to postpone
the further consideration of the bill. It slipped through
a second reading in consequence of the mistake of the
hon. member for Edinburgh (Nlr. Black) in not moving
at the proper time a specific motion for its rfjection.
He moved the committal of the bill this day six inontbs.

The bill was disliked generally throughout the country,
though it was supported by the Colleges of Surgeons and

Physicians.
Mr. COWPER said the petitions that bad been
presented in its favour showed that a large number of
the medical profession approved of it.
Mr. HEADLANI would support the motion for going
into committee, but he thought it would be impossible to
pass the biil this session, unless a spirit of conciliation
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was displayed.
Mr. HADFIELD thought there was not much chance
of the bill pissing this session.
Mr. WALPOLE considered the house should go into
committee on the bill. If the objections to the bill
cou:d not then be got over, he would be prepared to
suggest the best course to be pursued.
After some remark.; from Lord ELcuo and Mr. BLACK,
the house divided. The numbers were :

For going into committee
Against it
Majority
The house then went into committee.
Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to.
On clause 3,

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Mr. T. BUNCOMBE suggested that this, and the
clauses up to 41, which established or provided for the
expenses of the act, should be postponed till the com-
mittee had disposed of clause 41. It was right the house
anti the country should know what would be the cost of
this " quackery," for such the bill was. If the forms of
the house precluded his postponing them in a lump, he
should move the postponement clause by clause. He
moved the postponement of clause 3.
Mr. CO WPER said the clauses were so framed that no
demand would be made on the public exchequer for its
working. This was net a fair way to attack the bill,
end he hoped the bon. gentleman would not press his
motion and thereby impede the pi ogress of the bill.
Mr. AY RTON asked his hon. friend not to press his
motion. He had ascertained from many members of the
medical profession that the profession generally were
favourable to the measure. He believed the bill would
be advantageous to the people.
Mr. HATCHELL said the medical profession in Ire-
land were favourable to the passing of the measure. lie
hoped the hon. gentleman would withdraw his motion.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said it was of the utmost im-
portance the committee should know the expense of
working the bill, and if it was to be taken from the
public purse. He had heard an enormous RUM men-
tioned as likely to be required over and above the fees to
be taken under it. Every bill (with the exception of
the Attorney-General for Ireland's last bill) for improv-
ing anything laid hold of the public taxes. He hoped
the hon. member for Finsbury would press his motion.
If the medical profession wanted a bill of this kind, let
them pay for it, and not the public.
Mr. BLACK considered there would be abundance
of money to pay the expenses from the fees thar. would
be received under the tell.
Mr. HADFIELD complained that the bill excluded
the professors of hydropatby and homoeopathy.
Mr. T. BUNCOMBE said he should press his motion
unless he had an answer to his question.
Mr. WALPOLE said he agreed with the hon. member
that the public money ought not to be charged with any
of the expenses of this nieasure. As he read the bid the
clauses would throw a charge on the exchequer, and he
thought they ought to give the colleges power to im-
pose fees sufficient to pay the expenses. Tho whole
frame-work of the bill proceeded on the assumption
that the fess would be siuffi,nent to pay the expenses,
and clause 41 prJposed to allow the Government
to advance sufficient money until the fees were enough

to pay the expenses. He thought it wouli have been
Imter It the 41st clause had not been inserted, and
when they cuue to tbat clause be should oppose it.
Mr. T. DIJNCOMBE ached the hon. inesiber (Mr.
Cowper) it he still persisted iu his intention to retain
the 41st clans.?

Mr. C3WPER, said he would omit the clause after
what had been .aid by the Route Secretary.
Tire amendment was th.n withdrawn aid the clause
was agreed to.
Clauses 4,5, G, 7,8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 were
agreed to.
On clause 15,
Mr. HEAD LAM mowed an amendment, that no prac-
titionerF,, but such as had pas,ed au exlmination at the
Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons, and rec,ived a
bcenca practise, should be permitted to register them-
selves under the bill.

Mr. WALPOLE opposed the amendment.
The committee divided. The numbers were—
For the amendment 2l
Againat it
Maj nity 117
The clause was then agreed to.
Clauses 16 to 25 were also agreed to.
On clause 26.
Mr. HEADLAis.iI moved an amendment to add a pro-
viso that no person should he erased from tue re.,;ri.ter
for having adopted any particu'ar theory.
The amendment was agreed to, and the clause as
amended was ordered to stand pn-..; of the bill.
Clauses 27 to 4tl were agreed to.
Clause 41 was struck out of the bill.

On clause 45,
Mr. HADI"IE LD moved the insertion of the following
proviso :—" Chat within 12 months after the granting
of such charter to the College of Physicians of London,
any fellow, member, or licenciats of the Royal College
of Physicians of Edinburgh, or of the Queen's College
of Physicians of Ireland, who may he in practice as a
physician in any part of the United Kingdom called
England, and who may be desirous of becoming a fellow
or member of such College of Physicians of Eug
land, shall be at liberty to do so, and be entitled
to receive the diploma of the said college, and to be
admitted to all the rights and privileges thereunto ap-
pertaining, on the payment of a registration fee of
pounds to the said college, and. shall be froe from all
stamp duty, in case the existing stamp duty shall have
been already paid on the diploma held by such physician
from the College of Phys:clins to which tie belongs."
The proviso, eubject to the Chancellor of the Es.che-
goer's approva', was agreed to.
The remaining clauses after some verbal amendments
were agreed to.
Mr. HEADLAM moved" the insertion of the f, Low-
ing clause in lieu of clause 16 :—After the passing of this
act the medical registrars shall, under the authority cf the
respective branch councils, require proof from every person
who applies to be registered as a plipician, and who is
not qualified to he registered as such under the provi-
sions cf section 15 of this act, that he has completed the
age of 24 years, and that he has graduated in arts and
medicine, or in medicine, after having passed the exami-
nationa for a degree in arts in some university of the
United Kingdom, or in some foreign university approved
by the general council, or that his case come within
some special exception establi-bed by the general
council, and that he has been examined by and has re-
ceived letters testimonial as a physician from one of the
Royal Colleges of Physicians of England, Scotland, or
Ireland, and has been enrolled as a member of that col-
lege.

Mr WALPOLE opposed the clause, and it was nega-
tived without a division.
Mr. B. HOPE moved the insertion of the following
clause: - "It shall, notwithstanding anything here cm-
tained, be lawful for her Majasty, by charter, to
grant to the Rlyal College of Surgeons of Eiglaud
power to institute and ho:d examinations fur the pur-
pose of testing the fitness of persons to practise as
dentists, who may be desirous of being so examined,
avd to grant certificates of such fitness."
The clause was agreed to.
The house then resumed, and the bill was ordered to
be reported to-morrow (Wednesday).
COPYIIOLD ACTS AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
CHELSEA BRIDGE AC TS AMENDMENT 7131 LL.
The committee on this bill was postponed till Thurs-

day next.
Lord J. MANNERS said he intended to omit the
2d clau,e of the bill, and to alter the 31 so as to make
lao foot toll cease when the capital of EG,OOO/.,
ogether with the interest at 4 per cent , should have
be en paid.
CLERIC OF PETTY SE ;SION'S BILL.
Tice bouae went into committee on this b,ll, which
occupied the remainder of tt:e sitting up to 4 G'cluck.
The house resumed at 6 o'clock.
CHURCH RITES.

Mr. ALCOCK g venotice Thursday nest
be would )isk leave to bring io a bill on the seuect of
the volurita.-y contribution of church rates.
BFIARITABLE BEQUESTS.
Mr. LEFE:OY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland
if the Goverani.ent intended to bring in a bill this session
to amend the 011gritahle Bequests Act ?
Mr. S. FITZGERALD said many representations
bad been niaae to she Government on the subject, but
it was quite oat of she question to introduce a bill this
session with the hope. of ouryin.,,i, it.
M UN ICiP ELECTIONS,
Mr. GILPIN sskea the Howe Secretary if was hint
intention to extend the peovisions of the Corrupt Prac-
tices Prevention Act to mudeipsl elections ?
Mr. WALPOLE said he sktould not bring in a bill on
the subject this year, but he was strongly of opinion
that the principle of the act ought to be extended to
municipal elections.
THE BOROUGH OF BELFAST.
Mr. MACARTNEY inquh.ed of the Chief Secretary
for Ireland whether any period had been fixed to com-
mence tho inquiry into the affairs of the borough of
Belfast, and woo were the commissioners appointed to
hold such inquiry ?
Mr. S. FITZGERALD said no time bad been fixed,
but he hoped the inquiry would commence as soon as the
circuits were completed. The commissioners were Lir.
Maj•ar and (as was uneerstood) Mr. Lockinger, both
gentlemen of great eminence at the bar, and they would
have the assistance of an actuary of eminence.
WANT OF SURGEONS FOR THE TROOPS IN
INDIA.

Mr, S. HERBERT said wished to ask a question