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him his committee of inquiry now, there would be an
end of the matter. (A. laugh.) He should certainly bring
on his motion to-morrow, unless he were given Friday.
The debate was then adjourned until' to-morrow (this
day).
CLERKS OF PETTY SESSIONS (IRELAND)
BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
CONSPIRACY TO MURDER BILL.
The second reading of the Conspiracy to Murder Bill
was postponed until Friday.
PUBLIC HEALTH ACT (1848) AMENDMENT
BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
believed the objections to this bill would be Dore readily
examined in committee than on the second reading. If
the house would now consent to the second reading, be
would name an early day for the committee.
Mr. PALK said his objections were to the principles
of the bill, and he should therefore very much prefer
discussing the bili now to acceding to the request of the
right hon. gentleman.
Mr. LOCKE was sure that this bill bad become a
Parliamentary nuisance, for he had attended night after
night in expectation of the second reading and the dis-
cussion arising thereon, when he found it had been
invariably postponed. The house ought to know
whether it was to be preceded with or not.
Lord PALMERSTON said that the bill did not
deserve the character which the hon. gentleman had
given it. It was a bill to remove a nuisance—(bear,
and laughter)—to remove that state of disease which
had occasioned a great loss of life. He hoped the house
would not be led away by the vague observations of hon.
gentlemen who wished to treat the matter as one of no
importance, that they would come to the discussion
without the prejudice that was attempted to be thrown
over it.

pride in belonging to the Indian service, but in all his
experience he never heard of any feeling of reverence for
the company, and all their aspirations were for honours
from the Crown, from whence, in fact, all their honours
were received. Provided the substantial rewards were
continued, which he supposed, was the intention, the an-
nouncement of their having become a royal army would
be received with great and general satisfaction. As to
the effect on the natives, he thought that in ordinary
times the effect on the lower orders, including the
working classes, and the lower portion of the army,
the change would not produce any appreciable eff ct.
The natives were more amenable to individual and
local influences than to the force of any abstract
considerations. There was no such thing as natioeal
feeling among the people of India, though there were
feelings of caste and race ; but there was an extreme
docility and susceptibility to local influence. The
Scinde Horse, for instance, consisted of the most in-
flammable materials, high caste Hindola and Mussul-
mans, who, however, were kept faithful without a
murmur, by the influence of the high character of
General Jacobs, their commander. (Hear, hoar.) In
the same Punjeub a similar influence was exercised
by the confidence of the men in the justice, ability,
and honour of Sir John Lawrence. It was impossible
to over-estimate the power of individual influence
among them, which had much more weight than any
abstract principle of government. But as to the
educated classes who were constantly reading Eng-
lish papers and were given to abstract questions, the
case was different. They understood the difference
between the company and the Crown—the only error
was, that they were perhaps disposed to over-rate the
power of the Crown, and to under-ra-e that of the
company. The change would affect them according
as they were loyal or disloyal. If loyal, they would
like it as giving increased security ; if disloyal, they
would dislike it as affording lees scope for agitation.
As to the second question, whether change, if desirable,
was so at the present time. Tho question of delay was
specious and attractive. It would be agreeable—let, to
those who objected to the bill on principle; 2dly, to
those who approved of the bill on principle, but really
thought this a bad time to introduce it ; and, idly, to
those who bad not yet made up their minds. But he
trusted the good sense of the house would triumph over
these considerations. (Hear.) The reasons urged by
the advocates of delay, in order to deter the Govern-
meat from legislating, were contradictory one to the
other. Oa one side it was stated that the mutinous
sepoys would consider the change of government a great
triumph, whilst others were of opinion it would depress
the natives if they knew they were to be handed over
to the Imperial Government. He considered neither of
the results would take place. If we had been driven out
of the country the sepoys would have had some cause
for congratulation, bat to find themselves in a worse
position in having a strong Government substituted for
a weak, would not, he thought, give them much cause
for congratulation. They would find no change. The
same officers who now acted against them would also act
against them under the proposed change, with the ad •
vantage of greater harmony and power than now from
being members of the same service. (Hear, hear.) It
had been said that the mutiny should first be put down
and legislate after; but he considered it was not a mutiny,
because there was no such thing as a body of mutinous
soldiers banded together to oppose us. Series opposi-
tion was offered still in Robilcund, Central India, and
Oude, but it partook more of the characteristic of civil
war and revolt than mutiny, and means must be taken
to re-establish our authority in those quarters by force
of arms and what else was consistent with honour and
dignity. He did not mean to say that thehiame of the
Queen of England wou'd be sufficient for the restoration
of peace and order, but it would do much towards
effecting it. All the information he had received from
India described that country as being in the utmost
danger, for there was a great chasm between Europeans
and natives that could not be bridged over. All that
common ground by which the European used to approach
the native and draw out his sympathies, and gain bis
affections, had been cut away. (Hear, hear.) Mutual
confidence was destroyed between theca, and what
was worse, the natives know that the Europeans
distrusted them. (ffear, hear.) He did not for
a moment consider that the Queen's name would be
every thing in that country, but he looked upon it as a
great auxiliary for the restoration of peace and order.
It would act as the basis of a new starting point, and
cause them to look forward instead of backward. (Hear.)
It was absolutely necessary that a number of changes
should take place in the administration of India, which
it was impossible to postpone for the sake of party, and
wnich it was absolutely essential to our rule in that
country, should be introduced at the present time, whe-
ther the bill was passed or not. The question of finance
was one of the utmost importance. The reorganisation
of the army was absolutely necessary. The tenure of the
land was a matter of almost equal moment, and above
all there was the system of administration which must
now he reformed, and they should take advantage of
these eccaeions to proclaim simultaneously or nearly so
the Queen's name, with the inauguration of the new
.yst.m. The effect of such a proceeding would bo not
to alarm and depress the native mind, but to elevate and
encourage it, an opinion in which he was borne out by
Captain Meadows Taylor. The danger to result from
the proposed change need not be extended. Three
mouths had now elapsed since this subject was publicly
announced, and it would be three months longer before
the bill would be passed, and he maintained that if any
danger was to be apprehended from its passing in India,
they would be self-evident before it came into operation,
, but such was not likely to be the case. If, however, they
delayed proceeding in the change, and the bill was to
hang for some time in committee, it would bare a pro-
judic'al effect. The power of the company's ( fficers
might b 3 weakened by it in India, and disorganisation
follow. In supporting the introduction of the bill,_
and deprecating delay, he must be understood as
not committing himself to an unqualified approval of
the bill. (Hear, hear.) There were many points he
wished to see al•ered. He thought the pro-
posed number of councillors too limited for the adequate
discharge of the duties of the board, and he should like to
see the independence of the board better established, but
whether it was to be obtained by the introduction of
the legislative element or not, he would not then stop to
discuss. _ _ _

Sir G. PECHELL hoped that the bill which had been
brought forward several times would have a day fixed
for its discussion. It had thrown over the Conspiracy
Bill that night, and he hoped it would last long enough
to throw it over altogether.
Mr. HENLEY thought that a day should be fixed
for the bill. It contained 180 odd clauses, and several
private acts were embodied in it.
The bill was then postp,med till Friday.
NATIONAL G-ALLE ftY.
Lord ELCHO wimhed to ask lbe Chancellor of the
Exchequer when he intended to proceed with this sub-
ject, which was one of great importance /
Mr. WILSON said that the sul j ct would be post-
poned till Thursday next.
The house adjourned at 20 minutes to one.

LAW INTELLIGENGE.—(This Day.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

(Peers prosent —The Lezd Chancellor, Lord Brougham,
Lord Wensleydale, and other Peers.)
Appeal cause appointed for hearing, and the Law
Judges to attend.

VERNON AND ANOTHER V. WRIGHT AND ANOTHER.-

-.----.
Sir J. WALSH thought that the double government
brought together the local privileges of one set of mon,
with the corrective decisions of another. This measure
was introduced in deference to the clamour raised cut
of doors against the double government. It would make
the Indian administration, both here and in India, a
mere party matter.
Mr. A. MILLS objected to the double government,
and therefore supported the bill, but cou'd not consent
to regard it as a bill of indictment against the company.
He could not admit the reasons alleged for delay, as he
could not see when those delays were to cease.
Mr. WYLD could not agree that the renewal of the
East India Company's charter had been a condonation
of their past shortcomings. The great defect of the pre-
sent system was that it was a double government. The
Vice-President of the Board of Trade (klr. Lowe), how-
ever, had denied that there was any double government,
and had asserted that there was au autocracy on the part
of the Board of Control. If that were so, and the
monarch of Cannon-row were the real governor of
India, then the Court of Directors was but a screen to
cover hie errors. His (Mr. Wylu'e) objection to the pre-
sent system was that it was unfitted for the requirements
of the age. The bill of Mr. Pitt constituting the double
government was passed at a time when our possessions
in India wore comparatively limited in extent, and had
that statesman survived to witness the present enlarge-
ment of our empire, he would never have agreed to
so uneatislactory a form of administration. It must
be remembered, too, that our interest in India was
continually increasing. The Rus'ian war had been
undertaken in great part to check the aggressive de-
slgas of that power in the East, and the recent Per-
sian war had been commenced with a similar inten-
tion. No movement in Asia could take place without
affecting imperial interests, and therefore he deemed
it to he most desirable that some legislation should take
place upon this most important subject. (Divide.)
Mr. D. SEYMOUR argued that the government in
India had of late been improved and simplifi• d, and it
behoved them to make corresponding simplifications in
our Indian uvernment. The natives mere eager for the
propoeed change, and any alarm they might feel would
be set at rest by the discussions which had taken place
in that and in the other House of Parliament. He be-
lieved that the proposed change would encourage the
settlement of Europeans in India.
Ma. ADAMS could not find one sufficient reason for
the destruction of a Government which had lasted so
long. The single objection he could lay hold of was this,
that Cannon-row was at some distance from Leadenhall-
street. If its proceedings were roundabout, the same
might be said of many departments of the Government
itself. Had the management of the Company presented
the same deficiencies as were shown by the management
of the Government in the Crimea I Why, the language
of praise bad been well nigh exhausted in the terms by
which the conduct of the Company daring the late crisis
had been spoken of. The sepoys, who received only such
impressions as those about them chose to convey, would
be open to the most false impressions when they found
that those against whom they had risen bad been put
down by the strong hand of the Government. The Com-
pany, after having gone so far in the repression of the
revolt, ought to have the honour of completing it. On
every ground the present was an inopportune time for
the proposed change.
Mr. ELLIOT sa;d that the delays in the proceedings
of the douhle Government were not greater than those in
the Treasury and Colonial-office. Lie thought that no-
thing would be more injurious to India than constant
discussions in that house, where the majority of the mem-
bers knew nothing about the matter, and where intem-
perate speeches would be made which would be trans-
ferred to the native papers in India.
C 1. SVIKE moved the aej iurnment of the debate.
Lord PALMERSTON said if the 'notion was pressed
ho Must accede to it ; but the debates if adjourned, must
be continued to-morrow (this day), whoa he hoped that
a vote would be taken upon it.
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paper, which ho had been trying for two years to bring
forward. (Laughter.)
Col
SYKEpersistee in moving the adjournment of
the debate.
The SPEAKER then put the question, and the house I
divided. The numbers were—

lIXPARTE AS TO lIERTAIN RESPONDENTS.

The further hearing of this important appeal cause was
resumed this morning in presence of their lordships of
the House of Lords and the Law Judges, Mr. Justice
Coleridge, Mr. Baron Watson, Mr. Justice Crowder,
Mr. Baron Channel!, and Mr. Justice Crompton.
Mr. Swanson, Q.C., followed on the same side with
the Attorney-General in opening the case for the appel-
lant. It is expected that the hearing of this appeal will
occupy the whole of the day.
.This appeal arises out of a suit in Chancery by the
Teeponcient William Wright, who by his bill seeks to re-
cover in the form ofan equitable ejectment certain lauds and
hereditaments which have been allotted is respect of two
undivided third parts of the estates formerly belonging
to the Sam well family ; and the principal question upon
this appeal is the construction and effect of certain limi-
tations contained in each of the wills of two testatrixes,
named Frances Ann Langham and Phillis Lang.
ham, whereby these ladies disposed of their respec
tive undivided third parts of the Sam well estates,
which had descended to them as two of the co-heiresses
of tbeir uncle, Sir Thomas Samwell, Bare., thereafter
called Sir Thomas Samwell, the testator, and which
estates were then subject to the then existing limitations
affecting the same, under the will of the late Sir Thomas
Samwell, the testator of his estates in the county of
Northampton and elsewhere, in favour of their relations.
Tne will is dated Ist November, 1778. The testator
died in the month of December, 1779. Sir Thomas, the
testator, left his four nieces, Millicent Langham, who,
during his life, married William Drought, Maria Lang-
hare, and the testatrix Frances Ann Langham, and
Philis Langham, his co-heiresses at law. In 1793 Maria
died intestate. The testatrix Frances Ann Langham
made her will will 12th April, 1827, in favour of her
relations. His Honour the Vice-Chancellor Sir R.
Kindereley made a decree, dated 33 Aug., 1854, declaring
that Francis Ann Langham, Philis Langbans, and Col.
Samwell, on the death of each of the testatrixes, took
an undivided third part (being two undivi led thirtis of
the whole) of the estates descendable on the heirs of Sir
Thomas Samwell, the grandfather, by Mary, his second
wife, &c. This decree is now appealed from. The
appellants claim the estates in fee simple, instead of an
estate tail. _

Mr. G'aase, Q.C., was being heard for the reepon,
dents.

Counsel in the cause—The Attorney-General, Mr.
Swanson, Q.C., Mr. Glasse, Q.C., Mr. Henderson, Mr.
Smythe, Mr Surridge.
The appeal cauee of the London and South-Western
Railway Company against Lindsay is appointed for hear-
ing before their lordships after the previous appeal cause
of Vernon agalest Wright is disposed of.

COURT OF BANKRUPTCY.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Evans.)

tN RE EDWARD RALDWIN-TEIE " MORNING HERALD," &O,

-ZUDGMENT ON PETITIONS.

His Honour gave judgment this morning on two
petitions—one presented by Mr. E. Foss, and the other
by Mr. Chas. Baldwin, who both claimed as mortgages
over the copyright er the Morning Herald, the Standard,
and Si. James's Olaronicl, newspapers. of which the
bankrupt had been proprietor. The faces were these—
the first mortgage was made is 1350, but the whole
of the property was allowed to remained in
possession of the bankrupt, and the business
was carried on apparently as usual, till June,
1856, when the bankrupt called a meeting of
his principal creditors, and he laid a settlement of his
affairs before tht in, and they were then isformed of the
existence of the mortgages in question. 0,, ly five creditor°
attended the meeting, two of them being Foss and Bald-
win, and it did not appear that any notice had been
given to the other creditors. The bankrupt, at the
time, signed a declaration of Insolvency ; from that
time up to Feb. 18, 1357, the bankrupt, as far as the
public) were concerned, carried on business as before,
and contracted many new debts. On Feb. 16 a creditor
issued an execution, and the Sheriff levied, and remained
in possession till the 19th, on which day the bankruptcy
to As. place, the act of bankruptcy being the
declaration of insolvency he had signed in the
meeting, the quedion which had been raised in the case,
was whether the property was in the order and dispo-
sition of the bankrupt, and consequently, that the sum
of 16 0001, for which the property had been sold, be-
longed to his estate, and ought to be held by the
assignees. His honour quoted a variety of cases, and
concluded by observing that the meeting consisted of a
very small number of creditors and was private, and no
notice had been given to the general body, and he could
not say that there was any evidence to show that the
property was not in the order and disposition of the
bankrupt, and. therefore the petitions must be dis-
miesed.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.— (This Day).

BO W-STREET.

PosT-Ornos ROBBERY. A. letter-carrier, named
Carrel, was placed at the bar, charged with stealing a
quantity of small packets and letters entrusted to him
for delivery.
From the evidence it appeared that, owing to certain
suspicions, the prisoner was taken into custody by
Sines, one the constables attached to the Post-office,
and on his person two small packets were found. They
bad been transmitted from the country to parties
residing in London, and ought in due course to
have been delivered. There was also found a letter
and part of an envelope. On searching the pri-
soners lodgings a quantity of photographic portraits
in cases was found. Some of the cases bore a mark,
supposed to have been made by the hot sealing-wax,
used in closing the letter. As some of the parcels had
not been opened, the persons to whom they were ad-
dressed now attended.
Mr. Francis of Great Russell-street, Bloomsbury,
opened cne of the packets found on the prisoner, ad-
dresst,d to him, in the presence of the magistrate. It
contained an achromatic lens worth about two guineass,
It was the property of Dr. Corrie, of Belfast, who had
transmitted it for_ alteration.
Mr. W. Hutchinson, Dammtreet, Islington, also
opened a packet. - It contained a photographic portrait.
The prisoner, who did not deny the charge of stealing
the letters, was fully committed for trial.

MA RLBOROUGET-STREET.
ASSAULT ON TELE POLICE EY A CADUAN.—James
Reale, cabman, No. 4113 -badge, was this morning
charged before Mr Bealon with being drunk, and inca-
pable of taking care of his horse and cab, in Little
Brook-street, and assaulting the police.
Policeman 336 A said he saw the prisorteir on his oab-
box between 8 and 10 o'clock yesterday evening quite
drunk. His horse was drawn across the road, and he was
totally unable to take care of it. With the assistance of
two ge-f16,,1en passing at the time sit„yie,;is got him
off the tie ,str.qe, :pit❑ t!le
breei,,., and Lcomiug e.e-eediogly violent, tried all he
could to'throW hen down, and at length succeeded ;
when, being himself pulled down by witness, who had
kopt his hold, he seized him by the teeth and bit his
armlet from his wrist. Witness was obliged to send
for assistance, during which time he continued very
violent, and toAt no less than four constables to convey
him to the station.
The deferdact &aid it, answerhe was sorry;
One month to Roue of Correc:iun and hard labour.

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on the present bill to a conclusion as speedily as possible. Carelessness about names is not always so harmless as
Mr. GLtOGAN said that if the noble lord would give in the present case.