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the seven gentlemen commissioners. That was not alto-
gether the best arrangement that could be come to. In
the event of no alteration being made in the consti-
tution of the commission, he should move the omission
of some of the names and the introduction of others, and
also an addition to the number if such should be thought
desirable. Ho did not see why the number should be
seven. Ho thought nine would be a better number, and
would enable a stronger and more efficient body being
selected. He gave notice of his intention of doing as he
intimated, if it should become necessary, on Monday next.
After some further discussion, the consideration of the
subject was postponed until Monday next.
Clause 32, on account of the rejection of the clause
relative to voting papers, was struck out.
On clause 33 being proposed,
Mr. DENMAN moved an amendment, the effect of
which was to extend the provisions of the 9th sec. of the
6th of Victoria, chap. 18, to the new voter as well as the
old bee.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
the motion could be more easily done by striking out the
clause, as the object he had in view was, he thought,
effected by the 40th clause.
The clause was accordingly struck out, and clauses 31
and 35, which related to sating, having been previously
considered and agreed to, clause 36 was then taken into
consideration, which proposed to treat the corrupt pay-
ment of rates as bribery.
Sir R. KNIGFITLEY moved an amendment to the
clause, and considered the payment of the railway travel-
ling expenses of a voter going to poll might just as well
be treated as bribery.

Mr. ROEBUCK thought if the words wore left out it
would be going against the entire spirit of the act. If a
man was excused from payment of rates he was not a per-
son who ought to be upon the roll of voters. (Hear,
hear.) Suppose a man were to say to a person seeking
his vote, " I've not paid my rates," that person would re-
ply, " Oh, very well, I'll pay them for you, and then you
can vote for me." Such an arrangement it would be
ridiculous to look upon in any other light than bribe: y.
A long discussion followed, during which it was sug-
gested that the clause should be taken out of the bill and
referred to the committee at present sitting to inquire into
corrupt practices at elections. The amendment of Sir R.
Knightley was ultimately negatived without a division.
Sir F. Goldsmid then moved an amendment in another
part of the clause, to the effect that any person paying the
rates of another person, to enable him to vote, should be
deemed guilty of bribery.
This amendment was agreed to, and on the ;question
that the clause stand part of the bill,
Mr. DENMAN moved that it be struck out of the bill
altogether.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the clause,... 250
Against it, ~. 196

Majority, ... ... ... ... t 4
The house 4Pas engaged in discussing the next clause up
to seven o'clock, at which hour the sitting was suspended
until nine o'clock.

At the evening sitting, on the motion for going into
committee of supply,
Mr. G. DUFF called attention to the report of the Scotch
Education Commissioners, and to a plan which they re-
commended to bring about a national system.
Lord It. MONTAGU said the report had been presented
but a short time, and the Government having had their
attention engaged with other matters had not made up
their minds upon it. He expressed, however, an opinion
adverse to many of the recommendations of the commis-
sioners, and stated that in no country in the world was
education so high as in Scotland. He argued at great
length against the rating system, and said the attendance
of the children at school was greater in England and Scot-
land than it was in America.
Mr. W. E. BAXTER could not help expressing the
great astonishment and pain with which he had listened to
the speech of the noble lord, who had pursued a most ex-
traordinary course in attacking the report of a royal com-
mission. Ile defended the report, which showed the in-
efficiency of the Privy Council system in Scotland. The
parochial system had not kept pace with tho wants of the
population, and the Privy Council system had failed, and
the commissioners, believing that no sectarian difficulty
existed, and that the denominational system in Scotland
was unnecessary, had unanimously recommended a na-
tional system, which they pointed out could be supported
by a small rate.
The debate was continued for some time longer, and in
the course of it Mr. HARDY promised that the Government
would consider the report in no spirit of hostility to the

commission.
Two or three other subjects of minor importance having
been discussed, the house went into committee of supply,
and X 300,000 was voted for the packet service.
The orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
house adjourned.

Sheffield Trades' Union Commissio-.

FOURTEENTH DAY (FRIDAY).
At the opening of the Commission yesterday
Mr. Broadhead was seated among the privileged
spectators on the side of the court occupied by sec-
retaries and representatives of Trades' Unions.
Mr. Overend--Mr. Broadhead, will you take
your place (pointing to the witness's chair) ?
Mr. Broadhead slowly walked to the chair and
took his seat. his countenance was serious—per-

haps a little anxious, and it had in its expression a
certain admixture of doggedness, like that with
which a stolid, determined man who knows,whnt is
before him, and is determined to brave it, goes on-
ward to his fate.

Before the examination commenced, Mr. Overend
said—Mr. Broadhead, in the cause of justice and
in the interest of those whom you may implicate, I
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give you this warning. I dare say you have a false
sense of honour that you won't implicate others. I
look on my notes, and I find that you have never
told us the name of a single person you caused to
ratten, you have never disclosed a single fact that
has not been proved by two witnesses, you have
never admitted anything which we did not know.
Now, if you are to obtain a certificate, you have to
tell us all you know ; and we must be satisfied that
it is all that you know ; it is not only telling about
those things which have been mentioned, but if it
should turn out in the result that there are other
things with which you are proved to have been
associated, and you have not told us about them,
unquestionably your certificate will be withheld.
And, again, it is not in the interest of any man who
may have been associated with you to attempt to
screen him, because if others, believing that you can
screen them, do not come forward and state what
they know, you may be the cause of their being ac-
tually punished ; but if they know you have told all
most likely they will come forward to state what
they have done, and if they do that they will be entitled

;o a certificate, if only they tell the truth. By con

coaling them therefore you are not only putting your-
self in peril, but them too. Therefore I caution

you again with reference to other transactions which
you have not spoken about. Be explicit, clear, and
straightforward.
Mr. Broadhead (rising)—Pardon me, sir, will you
permit me to ask you a few questions?
Mr. 0 verend—Yes.

Mr. Broadhead—Can I rely that the satne mercy
will be extended to those men as to myself, if they
tell the truth ?
Mr. Overend—Certainly, undoubtedly.
Mr. Broadhead—Then, sir, I will give you a true
statement.
Mr. Broadhead sat down after saying this, with

an expression of relief on his face. The obstinate,
dogged look had vanished, and a softer shade had
taken its place. At times, in making confession of
bygone crimes—so far back that the details bad in
some cases slipped his memory—he became ab-
stracted, and, looking forward into vacancy, spoke
ss if be were naming incidents that were slowly
passing before his mind.
Mr. Overend—ls there any statement you would
like to make before I put the questions to you?
Mr. Broadhead—Yes, sir.
Mr. Overend—lf you please.
Mr. Broadhead—To begin with, the statement I
made yesterday relative to the Hellewell affair was
I untrue. I hired Dennis Clark to blow up Hellewell.
What did you give him 2—Well, sir, my memory
won't serve me as to what the amount was.
Was it £3 ?—Well, I believe it would be either
£3 or £5.
Did you know that Clark did blow him up ?—I
was told that Shaw blew him up.
Who told you ?—Clark.
Did you pay the money to Shaw or to Clark ?
I think I paid the•money to Clark.
Then, am I to understand that was the paper
which you drew up ; for what Purpose did you draw
it up ?—That paper was drawn up because I heard
of Shaw circulating a report at that time, and
when I learnt of his drawing the scale and at the
same time working it became my duty, let the
consequence be what it might, to detect him if
I could in drawing the scale which he had no right
to. lie was detected doing so.
By whom—by Mr. Martin ?.—Yes, and I was
obliged to bring it before the committee ; and feeling