The Sun.
London, England, 1867-10-17 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, OCrOBER 17, 1867

IRELAND.

DUBLIN, Wednesday.

A search was made in Waterford on Sunday night
by a strong party of police for Kelly and Deasy, the
Manchester Fenians. The police visited all the
hotels and publichouses in the city, and made a
careful search, but without the expected result.
The head-constable had received private informa-
tion which led him to believe that Kelly had landed
at Waterford from one of the steamers on Saturday
last, disguised as a fireman.
One of the Irish papers states that the prisoner
John Groves, charged with the murder of the
Guardsman in Bloomsbury, was born in Clough, iu
the county of Down. He was brought up in the
tenets of the Church of England by his grand-
mother, a small shopkeeper, who still resides in the
vicinity. Ills parents, however, were Roman
Catholics.

There is at present an unusual feature in the
corn trade of Ireland, viz., a very large export of
oats to France. Sixteen vessels which have lately
left Cork for French ports carried 25,077 barrels of
oats ; thirteen vessels from Waterford, 16,456 brls. ;
and three from Dublin, 2,507 brls., making a total
of 44,040 barrels. There are at present shipping
about as much more ; and as the demand from
France still continues, it is supposed that the quan-
tity exported to that country will not be completed
under 100,000 barrels. The oats are all black oats,
and the ports to which they are consigned embrace
nearly every point from Dunquerque to Bordeaux.
The Cork Examiner repeats its statement that
not one but several communications were made to
Cardinal Antonelli on behalf of Lord Stanley.
These communications did not assume the character
of a formal negotiation, because diplomatic rela-
tions are not supposed to exist between the English
and Pontifical Governments ; but unequivocal
overtures were made by the British Cabinet for
the purpose of ascertaining the views of the Court
of Rome and the Irish bishops upon this and other
questions of Irish politics. The Examiner observes
that the disavowal of these overtures by Lord Stan-
ley is, in all probability, founded on an ingenious
quibble.
Cardinal Cullen has addressed a long pastoral let-
ter to his clergy and laity, transmitting to them a
copy of the resolutions adopted at the assembly of
the Irish bishops held recently in this city. That
assembly, he states, was convened by the Holy See.
The Cardinal comments on each resolution, justify-
ing and enforcing it in his usual uncompromising
and plain-spoken style. Subjoined are a few of the
more remarkable passages of this political manifes-
to :—" The subject of the first resolution is the
Protestant or Established Church in this kingdom,
the disendowment of which is emphatically de-
manded by the assembled bishops. The justice of
this demand must be apparent to every one. The
Established Church had its origin about three cen-
turies ago in the Acts of a Parliament no way re-
presenting the Irish people, and assembled only for
the purpose of carrying out the wishes of the cruel
and corrupt Elizabeth, who had determined to sepa-
rate her kingdom from the Catholic Church and to
make herself the head of a new religion ; it was
forced upon the country by a system of religious
persecution which has had no parallel in the history
of modern times, and it was only by the same vio-
lence and oppression that it was perpetuated amongst
us in despite of the great majority of the people.
. . . The ministers of an Establishment founded
on injustice can have no claim to the endowments of
the past ages of our Church. . . During the past
300 years those ministers of a foreign Church, with
some honourable exceptions, have generally sup.
ported every enactment hostile to ourpeople that was
proposed by the Ministers of the Crown ; and they
still cease not to clamour for such measures when
introduced. It was thus that during Elizabeth's
reign they were the agents of persecution, and led
our priests and bishops to the scaffold ; it was thus
that, under Charles 1., they solemnly declared
it to be a mortal sin to tolerate the Catholic
faith in this Catholic country ; it was thus that,
under Charles IL, they frustrated the just set-
settlement of the Irish Catholic claims; thus, too,
that, under William 111. and Anne, they urged
on the agents of the Government to deeds of blood-
shed and bitter persecution, and the enactment of
cruel penal laws. Thus, in the beginning of this
century, they were generally determined opponents
of emancipation, and even in later times, when some
foolish and wicked men would fain invade our con-
vent enclosures, the hallowed retreats of piety and
self-sacrifice, the then Protestant Archbishop of
Dublin, and many other dignitaries of the Esta-
blished Church, encouraged them in their criminal
course, and made no secret of the exultation with
which they hailed the dawn of a new era of perse-
cution amongst us. It is surely time that the jus-
tice of the English people should put an end to such
an establishment.

" The resolutions of the bishops further declare
that we will not accept for ourselves or clergy any
State endowment or any portion of the property of
the Established Church, and that we will continue
to rest for the maintenance of religion on the gene-
rosity of our faithful flocks. . . . At the be-
ginning of the present century the Holy See, iu the
person of the great Pontiff, Pius VII., exhorted our
bishops to adhere to their past praiseworthy system
of living, and never to fetter the Irish Church by
accepting Government favours. The Secretary of
the Sacred Congregation of Propaganda wrote at
the same tithe, assigning most cogent reasons why
the bishops should not consent to abandon the
traditional custom of their Church, so conformable
to the practice of apostolic times ; and, in accord-
ance with these wise instructions, the Irish prelates
repeatedly passed resolutions repudiating State en-
dowments, and sanctioning the voluntary system
hitherto observed.

"As to the appropriation of the funds of the
Established Church, the bishops in their resolutions
have pointed out one special object which ought not
to be overlooked in disposing of them—that is to
say, the relief of the poor and indigent amongst us,
an object to which a large portion of ecclesiastical
property was applied in Catholic times, in confor-
mity with canon law and Pontifical constitutions.
Every one acquainted with Ireland knows that a
vast number of the people is living in a deplorable
state of destitution. If you travel through all
Europe you will not find any country reduced to so
sad a condition. Our towns and villages are falling
in many instances to ruin ; our streets are filled
with thousands of half-naked, bare-footed, and half-
starved women and children. It is true indeed that
a heavy tax is raised on the country for the relief of
the poor, but as it is doled out according to the
principles of a hard-hearted political economy, and
without any regard to Christian charity, what more
desirable than that some share of the ample reve-
nues of the Establishment should be restored to
their original objects, and devoted to the relief of
the suffering members of Jesus Christ, who have
been so long deprived of that assistance to which
they had a fair claim? This is what the Irish
bishops suggest in the resolution which they adopt-
ed regarding the revenues of the Protestant Esta-
blishment, viz., That by appropriating the ecclesi-
astical property of Ireland for the benefit of the
poor, the Legislature would realise one of the pur-
poses for which it was originally destined and to
which it was applied in Catholic times.'"

Having referred to the resolutions regarding edu-
cation, the Cardinal proceeds :—" During the past
years I have often warned you against the evils which
reult from secret societies, and exhorted you to shun
all communication with them, and I now renew the
same warnings in conformity with the last resolu-
tion adopted by all the bishops of Ireland. Be not
seduced, dearly beloved, by the deceitful reasonings
of such societies, and allow not yourself to be led
away in pursuit of the vain chimeras which they
propose to you. Shun all secret associations, no
matter what name they bear, whether they be
Masonic or Fenian, Orange or Ribbon. They are
all alike condemned by the Church of God ; they
are all subjected to excommunication, and cut off
like rotten branches from the Church of God by the
Vicars of Christ on earth. You have had,
within the last few months, the strongest proofs
of the truth of what I state in the unhappy
proceedings of Fenianism which we have had
tp deplore, Without the slightest chance of

success, without the prospect of any useful re-
sult, this association has disturbed the coun-
try, injured religion, alienated the friends who
were anxious to redress their grievances, or para-
lysed their action; it has given power and plausible
pretences for oppression to our enemies, and brought
ruin and misfortune upon thousands. how much
bad faith, perfidy, and want of courage, a defect
rarely found in Irishmen, unless when acting with a
bad conscience, have appeared in its ranks ! What
hosts of spies and informers were connected with it,
anxious to traffic in the liberties and lives of others,
and to earn the wages of iniquity ! Societi. s which
produce such fruits are not only a calamity, but a
disgrace to our poor country. Whilst deploring
the criminal folly of engaging in secret societies or
open rebellion against the Government of the coun-
try, the prelates of Ireland exhort you to avail
yourselves of all lawful and constitutional means to
obtain redress of the many grievances which we
suffer, and to secure for the Catholics of Ireland, so
long persecuted, perfect equality with every other
class of her Majesty's subjects. Elect, therefore,
members of Parliament able and willing to defend
your rights ; apply to the Legislature for the disen-
dowment of the Protestant Establishment, and for
freedom of education ; and petition for a law to
regulate the relations between landlord and tenant,
so that the fruits of their capital and labour may
be secured to the agricultural classes. Call also
upon the corporate bodies of the country, upon all
men of influence and station, upon the writers of
the public press, and especially upon your mem-
bers of Parliament, to bestir themselves in your
behalf."

DUBLIN, Wednesday Night.
. _

This morning the Belfast and Glasgow mail
steamer Wolf was run down by the Fleetwood
steamer Prince Arthur, and sunk about two miles
from Carrickfergus. No lives were lost. The
Prince Arthur was considerably injured. The acci-
dent occurred during a dense fog. The weather
was calm, and other steamers close at hand, or the
Wolf would probably have gone down with all on
board.

THE BISHOP OF 10 TVA ON RITUALISM.

We (Times) have been furnished with the follow-
ing letter to the Bishop of London from one of the
Bishops in attendance upon the Lambeth Confer-
ence, from the United States. It tells its own
story :

"London, Oct. 12, 1867.

" My dear Lord,—Before taking leave of Eng-
land I must say a few frank words to you on a sub-
ject that presses upon my heart, and in which you,
yourself, are most deeply interested. For obvious
reasons it did not come before the Conference at
Lambeth, nor was it much referred to at the Wol-
verhampton Congress. But still it was in all minds,
at both places, and was pressing more or less on
every heart. The very intensity of the interest
with which it is regarded on all sides was one reason
why there was such silence respecting it. There is
at present too much excitement on the subject here
in England to secure its candid and impartial con-
sideration by those most nearly concerned. You
are aware that at Lambeth the subject would have
been introduced, but for the fact that it is now in the
hands of the Royal Commission in this country,
which has not yet made a full and final report ; and
also from the circumstance that a majority of the
Bishops in the United States have already made an
official declaration in regard to it. hence it was
not acted upon by the Conference, though care was
taken by one of the bishops, as you will remember,
to state to his brethren why it was passed over in
silence.

"Since I came to England I have seen much in
every direction to be delighted with, and to make
me proud to call her the mother country.' We
American Bishops have been received with great
kindness and respect, and everything has been
done to make us feel at home, and to render our
visit as pleasant as possible. So:ne of us have
now seen England and England's Church for the
first time, and, perhaps, for the last time also. In
any case I may say for myself that this visit is one
of the moat interesting events of my life, and I can
never forget the many, many happy hours pasied
here amid historic scenes, and with the new friends
that have greeted us on every side. But still I
cannot conceal from myself that I shall take my
departure from England with a heavy heart, not
merely because I shall regret to part with so many
friends, but chiefly because of the existing state of
the dear old Church. I had no previous conception
of the extent to which the Ritualistic movement
had gone here, and the present state of things is
truly alarming. Some ritual .reform and improve-
ments were undoubtedly needed, but surely none
that should involve erroneous and strange doc-
trines.' .rhe extreme Ritualists are plainly aiming
at an actual change in the doctrine of the Lord's
Supper. Indeed, I believe this object is frankly
avowed. However this maybe, their teaching, their
incense, their vestments, their postures, all bear
towards this one end—an unprimitive and un-Pro-
testant view of this Holy Sacrament—a view not
warranted by Holy Scripture nor by the Book of
Common Prayer, and one which, it would seem,
can never be generally received by the Churchmen
of England or of America.
" The vestment exhibition at Wolverhampton
filled me with the saddest forebodings ; for what-
ever may be the technical state of the case in this
country as to vestments, this matter cannot be
much further pressed in the direction of what is
called advanced Ritualism,' without the most
serious and detrimental consequences. In the
United States the incipient movement has been evi-
dently checked by the prompt and timely Decla-
ration' just alluded to, so that there the danger is
not imminent at present. Did the conditions of
things in this respect exist there as here, I am of
opinion that an open rupture could hardly be
avoided. Here the connection between Church
and State saves you in a great measure from this
peril, and an actual schism in the Church is not
very probable. But we see here a most melancholy
alienation of hearts now, and the prospect is most
unpromising if the Ritualists persist in their ex-
treme views and measures. Conceding, as they do,
that the matter of vestments, &c , is not absolutely
' essential,' how can they do what they are now
doing without strong upbraidings of conscience for
giving such serious offence to their brethren, who
are clinging to the simple doctrines of the Primitive
Church and of the English Reformation? Will
they not pause where they are, and even retrace
their steps before any further harm shall be done to
the holy cause which all profess to have at heart?
Their earnestness and zeal are so great and absorb-
ing that it is to be feared they will persevere in their
course from a mistaken view of their duty, and
without due regard to the consequences that may
ensue. Their zeal has certainly given them no little
success already, and they may gather a large and
strong party in the Church. Men and parties of
one idea generally succeed to some extent, what-
ever their cause or their creed may be. The roman-
tic, the sentimental, the aesthetic, and the super-
stitious elements all combine to favour the Ritual-
ists, though I will not deny that many among them
are actuated by higher principles and considerations,
even while labouring under erroneous convictions
and opinions. I confess that I am astonished at the
lengths to which they have gone in so brief a pe-
riod, and who can tell to what extent they may yet
go, if not checked by their own views of duty, or by
some hing else? Their dissatisfaction with the
temperate report of the Ritual Commission, so far
as made, is most unfortunate, and most ominous as to
the future ; but let us hope that their ' sober second
thought' may tend to moderate their feelings, and that
they may yet adopt a course of action which may re-
store peace and quietness to the Church. It seems tome,
my Lord, that an awful responsibility rests upon those
who are engaged in this movement. They have
entered upon a most fearful experiment, and God
alone knows what will be the issue. Could I gain
the whole world thereby I would not join them in
their efforts, their responsibility is so terrible. They
are practically calling in question the teaching of
the primitive ages and of the English reformers.
They have little reverence for the martyrs of
Smithfield, Oxford, and Glocester ; and terms of
union with Rome are more desired by them than
any plank; fox uniting Protestant Christendom, or

for securing among all true believers an essential
and all-controlling unity of spirit in the bond of
peace. I would not speak harshly, for Ido not feel
unkindly towards these brethren ; but, if I speak at
all, I must speak plainly and without reserve. I
have nothing to gain by speaking as I am now
doing, except the approbation of a conscience that
will not permit me to be silent ; and I feel sure
that if I am mistaken in judgment as to my duty I
am erring on the safe side. My unfavourable im-
pressions as to the nature and tendencies of the
Ritualistic movement has been strengthened and
deepened by my visit to England ; and I shall re-
turn home with new and increased resolutions
to stand by the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ and
the good old standards of our Church, and to dis-
courage in every proper way these novelties that
disturb the peace, and these errors that threaten the
purity of our beloved Zion. I have never been
what is termed au ' alarmist' in Church matters,
and am not, I believe, generally regarded as among
the more Radical in my churchmanship. I am for
the Church as she is, so far as doctrines are con-
cerned, and am not disposed to be over-sensitive
and critical as to forms and ceremonies if they do
not affect matters of faith. I would not have the
Church less comprehensive than she is ; but she can-
not give place to error. These men should be solemnly
warned to take heed lest they cause incurable divi-
sions among brethren, and really, though undesign-
edly, wound the blessed Redeemer in the house of
His friends. While viewing the gorgeous vestments
on exhibition at Wolverhampton, I thought of that
coat of many colours' which caused so much
trouble and affliction in a certain patriarchal
family, and I could not resist the impression that
these mistaken brethren, by the course they are so
strangely and pertinaciously pursuing, are in danger
of rending anew the seamless garment, and of
causing needless separations among those of the
same household of faith.

" But, my dear lord, though we may tremble for
the ark gf the Lord, let us remember, for our com-
fort, that He ordereth all things, both in heaven
and earth, and that he can bring great good out of
apparent evil. Doubtless, the present excitement
will be followed by strong reaction ; then we may
look for sad and melancholy results. Many may
fall into genuine Romanism, and many others into
infidelity, rationalism, or indifferentism ; and some
may return to a right mind. The strain cannot last
long just as it is. It is too intense and violent; but I
should dread to have it now revealed what precise
form the reaction will take. Let us endeavour to
do our duty faithfully and in the fear of God. In
our respective dioceses we can do something to keep
the movement in check, and to defend the good old
ways of the Gospel and the Church. We can, if
need be, contend earnestly for the faith once de-
livered to the saints, and so keep our consciences
void of offence in this most important matter. You,
in God's Providence, have a large and most influ-
ential sphere of official action. Mine is limited and
comparatively unimportant. May God give us
grace to do our whole duty where He has placed
us, and when He finally removes us from the Church
militant here on earth, may he receive us into the
rest of Paradise and into the Church triumphant in
heaven.

" I have addressed you, my dear lord, thus pub-
licly for the sole purpose, if I know my own heart,
of exerting some little influence for the benefit of
the Church of England and the general cause of
pure and undefiled religion.
" Thanking you from my heart for all your per-
sonal kindness towards me during my visit in Lon•
don,—l am, with great respect and affection,
" Your lordship's friend and brother,
44 lIENnv W. LEE, Bishop of lowa.
"To the Lord Bishop of London."

EXAMINATION OF FENIAN PRISONERS
AT MANCHESTER.

MANCIIESTER, Oct. 16.

The men remanded on Monday by Mr. Fowler at
the City Police-court, charged with the murder of
Sergeant Brett, in the attack on the prison van on
Sept. 18, were again brought up for examination
this morning.
Mr. Talbot, Assistant Town Clerk, prosecuted ;
and Mr. R. P. Roberts appeared for the prisoners.
The defence of the prisoners was resumed by Mr.
Roberts, who said he had sent to Liverpool for wit-
nesses to prove alibis. Those for Brophy refused
to come unless subpoenaed, and it was impossible
to subpcena them in time. For Chambers he should
call four witnesses, one of whom would also speak
for Brophy.
The first witness was Esther Rossiter.—We keep
a beerhouse at No. 26, Adlington-street, Fontenoy-
street, Liverpool. The prisoner Chambers was at
our house drinking between two and three o'clock
on the afternoon of Sept. 18. I know it was the
18th, from the police having visited our house about
12 o'clock that night. About six o'clock the same
night the prisoner Brophy was also at our house,
and 1 served him with a pint of ale.

By Mr. Talbot—Chambers left the house about
three o'clock that afternoon, as near as I can guess.
We have kept the house 20 months. My husband
was previously a corn porter.
By Mr. Fowler--I heard of the attack on the van
about eight o'clock on the same night. People were
talking about it.
John Cummins said—l am a bricklayer, living at
8, Adlington-street, Liverpool. On the 18th Sept.
I met Chambers in Byrom-street, about a quarter
past two, and we went along several streets to Mrs.
Rossiter's, where we had a pint of ale each. We
stood there a quarter of an hour, but I was with
Chambers altogether about half-an-hour. A man
named Thornton camein while we were at Rossiter's,
and entered into conversation with Chambers. We
left the house about a quarter to three as near as I
can guess. I parted with Chambers in Great Cross-
hall-street, about three o'clock. I saw him next
morning between seven and eight o'clock. I know
Brophy by seeing him at Rossiter's. I believe he
was working on the 18th September.

By Mr. Talbot—The last man I worked for was
Mr. Ilaydock at Lime-yard, corner of Blackstock-
street. I left Mr. Haydock's last Friday, having
worked eight or nine days for him. I am not in
work now. I was born and reared at 8, Adlington-
street.

Lucy Gaven, dressmaker, said—l am a single
woman, living at 26, Clifton-street, off Prince
Edwin-street, Liverpool. I have known Chambers
five or six years. Recollect the day of the attack
on the police van. On that day he was at our house
bet /Nen four and five in the afternoon, and had his
tea with us.

Mr. Roberts—We have heard a report that your•
house was searched by the police and found to be
full of pictures of Stephens and other Fenians...
There is no truth in that, 1 believe ?
Witness—There were no pictures in the room.
where Chambers was. There were one or two such
pictures in a paper in my own room.
Mr. Roberts—You are not a Fenian ?
Witness—l know nothing about Fenianism.
By Mr. Talbot--Chambers sometimes slept w ith
my brother at our house, and did so on the Tues( lay
night before the attack on the van. My brother is a
joiner, and a most intimate acquaintance of ChPim-
bers'. I have lived at the house about 20 months..
Geo. Thornton, who was to hare given evidei
was called, but did not appear.
Mr. Roberts said these were all the witnesses. he
proposed to trouble the Bench with now, and at, his
request they were severally bound over.
The prisoners were then all committed to take
their trial for wilfui murder.
There is a report current in Manchester Jay
that an attempt has been made to explode a powder
magazine in the neighbourhood, but without effcct.

TIIE SUBSCRIPTION FOR BRETTS FAMILY,— -Mr.
Fowler, addressing the reporters, said—l havi, re-
ceived a few small sums for the widow and famil 'y of
Brett. The Rev. Mr. Richardson has, as is well
known, also interested himself in their behalf, and
received several sums for them ; and, as you. also
know, Captain Palin has been deputed by the w, 'itch
committee to receive, and has already received, st ins
for the same purpose. My notion is that any P3Ol ley
received by me shall be handed over to one of th, ese
gentlemen, and I wish the public to be info rated
through you that we are acting together, and any
moneys sent to us will be appropriated in the way
which may be beat for the widow and her faxaily,

Blowing up of the Danish Queen Steamer.

The following letter has been received by the Sec-
retary of the Board of Trade respecting the destruc-
tion of this steamer by explosion :

"British Consulate, Copenhagen, Oct. 12, 1867.
" Sir,—l have the honour to repDrt to you the
total loss by fire of the English screw steamer
Danish Queen, 768 tons register, of Hull, bound
from that port to Cronstadt with a cargo of coals,
&c. The disaster took place as follows :—On Sun-
day, the 6th inst., at two p.m., the steamer bearing
NE., about 59 miles from Faro Islands, at the en-
trance of Christiana Fjord, the coals (Cannel) sud-
denly ignited, and in about 30 minutes set fire to
some casks of petroleum, when the vessel blew up.
Every exertion appears to have been made by the
captain and his crew to arrest the conflagration, but
to no purpose, and they had barely time to jump
into the boat before the explosion took place ; they
saved themselves in the boats. Captain Priest and
12 men were picked up some 32 hours afterwards by
the Norwegian barque Franklin, of Skien, Captain
Vinsuss, which landed them here this morning and
placed them in my charge. The eight remaining
men, forming the second boat's crew, have not yet
been heaid of. Nothing whatever was saved from
the unfortunate steamer, which was seen still burn-
ing by the captain and his men at four a.m. of the
7th, when they were at a distance of 15 miles.—
I have the honour to be, &c.,
(Signed) " A. DE CROWE, Vice-Consul.
" To the Secretary, Marine Department, Board

SERIOUS CHARGES AGAINST A LIVER-
POOL COT 7 ON-BROKING FIRM.

The Liverpool Police-court was crowded during
the whole of yesterday, on the bearing of a sum.
mons obtained by Mr. Henry Barry Hyde, manager
of the National Bank of Liverpool, against Charles
Lee Campbell, Herbert Campbell, and Thomas
Stretch, trading in copartnership as " Colin Camp-
bell and Sons " at Liverpool, and which charged
them with obtaining by false pretences advances of
money to the extent of 210,500.
Mr. Sleigh and Mr. Gully appeared for the Na-
tional Bank, and Mr. Iliggin for the defendants.
The summonses against Mr. 11. Campbell and
Mr. Stretch were withdrawn, as the evidence against

them was not tho-ght to be sufficiently strong to war -
rant a committil. There had been five summonses
on the file of the court, but now the charge was con 7
fined to Charles Lee Campbell. Messrs. C. Camp-
bell and Co. were cotton brokers on an extensive
scale, and their system of business was to have cot-
ton to the extent of 25 per cent, in value over the
advances made. To enable them to make these ad-
vances, they procured assistance from the various
banks. The National Bank, on condition that they
should always keep this margin of 25 per cent.,
agreed to advance them £30,000, and as that " ran
off the reel," to keep up their advances so that a
maximum of £30,000 might be maintained.
Mr. Ilyde, manager of the National Bank, said
that after some bills had been declined, on the 4th
July two bills, accepted by Colin Campbell and
Sons, and drawn by Gautier and Bertois, were
brought to the bank ; one was for £5,000 at three
months, and the other for £5,000 at three months.
A. cheque was given to Messrs. Campbell and Sons
for these sums, less the discount, and the cheque
was returned into the bank as paid. Witness was
induced to advance the money under the belief that
Colin Campbell and Sons had cotton, with 25 per
ccut. margin, belonging to Gautier and Bertois, in
their hands. He believed they were general trade
bills for cotton, or he would not have advanced a
penny upon them. On Sept. 30 Mr. Campbell again
came to the bank, and asked witness to renew the
bills coming due on 7th and Bth October, saying he
could not meet them. The two bills spoken off were
amongst them. Witness inquired where was the
cotton he held against them. Mr. Campbell re-
plied that he had no cotton. Witness then said,
" You must have cotton under your guarantee to
me." Mr. Campbell said, "I gave you no gua-
rantee."

Cross-examined--Mr. Hyde stated that the firm
of Colin Campbell and Co. stood high in the com-
mercial world, and up to September 30 he had never
heard the slightest whisper as to their stability.
Between the 2d March and the end of June the
bank had advanced to Messrs. Campbell £105,000,
and by the 30th June the whole of the bills and the
loans were paid off in due course. Between the end
of June and the 4th July there was no indebtedness
to the bank on the part of Colin Campbell and
Sons. On the 30th September witness had a con-
versation with Mr. Campbell as to the outstanding

loans, which were then £36,000, and had reference
to specific quantities of cotton. The authorities of
the bank made up their minds to institute this pro-
secution on the Bth instant.

Mr. lliggin concluded his cross-examination by
asking Mr. Hyde if this prosecution was not insti-
tuted for the purpose of compelling the payment of
a debt due to the bank, but the witness gave the
question a direct and emphatic negative. Mr. Sleigh
(and Mr. Raffles, the stipendiary magistrate, agreed
with him) stated that such a question ought not to
have been put.

Mr. Sleigh contended that the money was ad-
vanced, less the discount, to Messrs. Campbell and
Co., upon the faith and belief that they had in their
hands at the time cotton to the value of the amount
advanced and 25 per cent. more.
in defence of Messrs. Campbell and Sons, Mr.

Iliggin said there was no charge against them in
reality, and he would be able to show such to be
the case to the satisfaction both of the Court and
of the entire commercial community. If his clients
had not been unfortunate nothing would ever
have been heard of " commercial morality." The
bank, like all banks in bad times, tried to get all
they could from unfortunate customers, even at the
expense of other creditors, and that was what Mr.
Hyde had done.
The case had not terminated when our parcel was
despatched.