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at once." But the Government bad not acceded to that
request. Whether the scheme of the Board of Works
was the best or not he could not say, but he thought if
the report of the commission were carried out it would
give satisfaction ; and if the tiro schemes could be com-
bined it would be advantageous.
Lord WYNFORD observed that there was one cause
of unpleasant stench they might obviate. There were a
number of noisome and pestilential occupations on the
other side of the river. He hoped that some means
would be taken to prevent these pestilential trades being
carried oe in the midst of so large a population.
Lord DE ROS observed that a great lapse of time
must take place before anything was done. He suggested
that the mouths of the sewers should be carried down by
means of iron pipes to low water, instead of being at
high water as at present.
The Earl of MALMESBURY remarked that the
Chairman of the Board of Works wrote a letter to the late
Chancellor of the Exchequer suggesting that Govern.
merit should give their security for a sum of money to be
raised for executing the works. That letter was written
in January, 1857, and from that day to this the Chairman
of the Board of Works bed received no answer.
The Duke of BUCCLEUCH said be hoped the Gi-
vernment would be able next week to state what their
intentions were on the suhject.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY, in answer to the
Earl of Malmesbury, said, after the letter from the
Chairman of the Board of Works was received, the First
Commissioner of Works appointed an engineer to make
another plan, which was under discussion when the
Government left office.
Viscount TORRINGTON moved for a return, forth-
with, by the engineer of the Metropolitan B .ard of Works
showing the alteration that was made of the outlet t
the Ranelagh main sewer under Leaby's contract ; also
how much above or below ordnance datum plane the
invert was before the alteration ; also, what was the
capacity of that outlet ; and also, whether it was free to
discharge at all hours of the tide, the sewage, storm,
and flood waters, and the overfloesings of the Serpen-
tine river, or whether that outlet was tide-kcked by
iron flaps ; also, a return of the alteration under
Leahy's contract, accompanied by the sheet of pub-
lished drawings of the main sewers, as they relate to the
Ranelagh sewer and its main branch lines, signed by J.
W. B tzelgette, engineer, dated Ist July, 1856, and
stating the height of the altered sewer invert above or
below Ordnance datum plane, the present capacity per
foot lineal of the altered sewer fee. 3,250 feet above that
outlet ; also, the present capacity per foot lineal of the
neat 3,250 feet ; also, the present capacity per foot
lineal of the portion of the main sewer under the
Knightsbridge-road through Albert ga'e ; also, the
capacity per foot lineal of the Tunnel sewer from the
la-t-mentioned point across Hyde park to the junctions
of the upland sewers of Paddington, Marylebone,
Hampstead, and Willesden ; also, the capacity of the
main sewer about three miles above the 3,250 feet of
outlet sewer, viz., in the Gloucester-road, Paddington,
and stating whether it be larger or smaller, and how
much either way, than the outlet sewer.
Viscount DUNGANNON presented a petition from
the rector, ineurnbents of district churches, gentry,
and inhabitants of the parish of Finckley praying
Oat some clau-e may be inserted in the Ecclesiastical
Commission Bill, empowering the commissioners toapply
a portion of the church lands in that parish to the better
eneowment of the two district churches. He said there
were 700 acres of church property in the parish which
was let on building leases, and as the district churches
were very poor, the parishioners thought they were en•
titled to have the benefit of that property for the ecclesi-
astical requirements of their own parish.

The E rl of ALBEMARLE moved for the papers,
proceedings, and correspondence relative to the impri-
sonment of Shiv Deen Puttail, British Jageerdar of
B,itool i❑ the Saugor and the Nerbudda territories, the
incarceration of tie sons and other his adherent., and
also the confiscation and sale by public auction of all Lis
property, per,onaland rev], and the ejectment from tbtir
homes of his female rtlatives and chiLlren, in conse-
quence of orders given by the British authorities of Jub-
buloore, Sanger, and the Nerbudda territories.
The Earl of ALBEMARLE presented a petition
from the inhabitants f Dig--s, and also one from the in-
habitants of Norwich, for the abolition of church rates.
Lord LEIGa presented a petition from Coventry for
the abolition of church ra•er.

Their Inrdships thee adjourned at five minutes pas
seven o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS—YESTERDAY.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock.
TEIE LATE AMICK ON THE BRITBLI CON.
SUL AT BELGRADE.

Mr. GRANT DUFF asked the Under S:cretary for
Foreign Affairs whether any deta led account of the
recent events at Belgrade had been received by the Go-
vernment relative to the late attack on the British
Consul at Belgrade, and if so whether he had any objec-
tion to state the substance of it to the house ?
Mr. S. FITZGER LD said that the Government bad
received a more detailed account of the particulars of the
attack than was in his possession when the question was
ked him on a former occasion. It appeared that Mr.
Fonblarque was walking, as usual, on the ramparts of
the town, and sat down on a wall that skirted it.
He was beckoned to by one of the soldiers on
the fortress above, bet Mr. Fonblar. que, who
knew that he was entitled to be where be
was pointed to his cap to signify that be was the British
Consul. He also stated that be was the British Consul,
and thought no more of it, but shortly after wards the
soldier rushed out of the gate of the fortress and attacked
him with his sabre, with which he inflicted on him seri-
ous injuries so severe that be was confined to his bed,
and was obliged to obtain leave of absence to get medical
advice. The Turkish Government had shown the most
cordial wish to give every satisfacion, and had mani-
fested every desire to probe the affair b the bottom, and
had declared that they would be ready to punish, in the
most exemplary manner, the authors of the outrage.
There were other circumstances which showed that the
hostile feeling was not confined to the soldier himself
a ho inflicted the injuries on the British C nom!, but that
it was participated in by his commander, because there
was an attempt afterwards made to cut down the British
flag at Mr. Fonblanque's house. The Turkish Govern-
ment had, however, instituted the most searching jam-
igalon into the circumstances.
UNIVERSITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL.

The house went into committee on this bid.
On clause 1,
Cal. SYKES moved the omission of the words " and
colleges." The amendment involved the whole question
of whether or not there should be two Facultiea of Arts.
The clause proposed a fusion of the tao colleges in
Aberdeen, namely, Marlichal and King's, shied a-
tempts
heretofore failed to accomplish.
S:r W. DUNBAR oppose] the amendment.
Mr. DUFF supported the amendment.
After some discussion, in which Lord Hallo, Lord
Elam. Sir J. Elphinst ine, and Mr. E.lice took part,
The LORD ADVOCATE supported the clause. 11,3
assured the committee that if he thought the fusion of
the c lieges would teed to diminish the efficiency of the
ect.icaional course ho would be the lest man to propose
it, ff's proposal, so fir from destroying, would have the
effect of exteudin, and improving the csirricuittia in
b colleges. (Hear, Lear.) Toe financial consolida-
tion which the bill sought to effect would result in 0,,
establishment of one substantial, well provided, and
efficient institu'ion in the place of two half starved, in-
efficient, and ant,,g,iniz:tic colleges. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. S EIRLING contended that the character of the
di,ca•aiou had shown that the scheme of the learned
Lord A lvocate would not produce sati-faction in Scot-
land. He should support the amendment.
Mr. STUAIIr opposed the amendment.
The committee divided. The numbers were—
For the amendment ... 90
Against it
Majority against the amendment —35
The clanle was then agreed to.
On clause 2,

Mr. BOUVERIE moved an amendment that Re
Chancellor, instead of being appointed in the same man-
ner as at present, should be elected by the General
Council hereinafter mentioned.

The LORD ADVOCATE opposed the amendment.
Mr. Dunlop, Mr. Buchanan, and Mr. B txt,n-, sup-
ported theamendmmt..

Mr. WALPOLL' said the Lord Advocate had ac
ceded to the amendment.

Mr. DUNLOP th-n moved that the appointment of
the Chancellor should ❑ot be by the general council but
by her Majesty.

After some remarks from Mr. Blackburn, Mr. Black,
Mr. Bouverie, and Mr. Kinnaird, the amendment was
negatived without a division.

The clause was then agreed to.
Cause 3, after some discussion, was agreed to.
Oa clause 4,

Col mei SYKES gave notice that he should renew
his objections on the bringing up of the report.
Clause 4 was under di,cus,ion at 4 o'clock, when, by
the forms of the house, the Chairm ,❑ reported progress,
and the house suspended its sitting.
The house resumed at 6 o'clock, and was
DISTRIBUTION OF PARLIAMENTARY

Mr. COWPER Fa'd there was some misapprehension
as to the answer given a few evenings ago on the sub-
ject. He therefore begged to ask the Chief Commis-
eioner of Works whether the intention he lately signified
with respect to the Wellington Mot ument was to give
(in disregard of the decision of the judges) he preference
to the design numbered IR, over the designs which
obtained premiums ; or whether he intended to employ
Mr. Stevens to make another design more suitable for
erection in Vie side chapel cf the.cathedral, without
aff oiling to any other sculptors an opportunity of com-
petition in respect to the rew site
Lent J. MANNERS complained that as the form of
the right hon. gentleman's question would give rise to
an erroneous hapression as to what he really did say
it was hi.; iotelition to :Ave the preference to a design
which had not obtained a premium ; on the contrere,
he sad he thought that under all the circumstances be
was rest-ed.:le I to those which had, and the design be had
se'ec'ed •A as one of those. As to the second part of the
queatien, he di i suit tbielt it necessary to have a second
camp Von ; believed the design selected could be
adapted to the new site, and form a monument worthy
of the gr-at man it was intended to commemorate and
of the ni e.
THE NORTH AMERICAN COLONIES.
Sir E. B. Ll' rroN gave no-ice of his intention to
rneve for leave to bring in a bill to provide for the go-
vernment of the territories in North America between
the Pacific and the Rocky Mountains'. (Hear.)
RAG-FAIR ON SUNDAY,
Oa the motion that the house on its rising do adjourn
to Monday,
Mr. K. SEYMER said that two or threes years ago
he bad called the attention of the house to the scene,'
that took place in Rag-f sir on the Sunday, and narrated
what be had seen himself, He should not have brought
forward the subject again bad not his attention been
directed to it by the rep set cf some proceedings at the
Maneion-''ouse Police-court, which appeared in the
papers of the 15 h cf June. It was nested, "Thomas
Beate was charged with having committed a robbery on
Sundae, at La f-past 11 o'clock, in the Clothes Ex-
change, Petticoat lane, in the neighbourhood of which
14,000 or 15,000 people congregate every Sunday, some
to buy and sell, and others (the great maj rity) to
plunder." The latter statement must be ta'een with
some qualification. Thieves do not steal from thieves ;
it could only be a minority who went there ti plurider.
The report continued, "It was stated by the police that
it was quite impossible for the officers to do anything at
all amongst such a mass of people, and that any per-
sons who were so sill? as to carry property atiout them
in the immediate neighbourhood must be content to port
with it, and would ho lucky if they got aw,ay without
being roughly haudled and kick, et." At the conelo•ion
of the case the Lord Mayor said—." Viers is proof of
the existence of another owperate evil. Ti at somebody
is culpable for the cent nuauce of so ontrageoue a viola-
tion of the law as the permission of such a state
of things, on the borders of the city r f London,
there can be to doubt. I have said so frequently
since the commencement of my mayoralty, but
there appeals to be no eymptom of improve men t.
On the contrary, the rni-ehief seems to be on the in-
crease. I commit this prisoner fee trial at the Central
Criminal Court, where I frost some allusion will be
made to the stets of the eicitity of Petticoat-lene by
seine high authority, from whose iuterpositicn some
effective regulation may spring." He had no desire to
re-open the question of Sunday trading, or to interfere
with the comf Jet or convenience cf tine esorkieg chte,es.
He regretted the difective airringernente which ren-
dered necessary Suz:day marketing. Tole, however, was
not a question of Sunday rearketirg. Peri-liable arti-
cles of food were the ealy things net sold there ; it was
a there question of pace. If a man who flt celled en
to preach in the open air gathered Irilf-r.dt zen people
round him, he was taeen before a magistrete for obeeruct•
iog the thoroughfare ; rif an Orange woman rested her
besket on the flags she wi a ordered to move on.; yet
Petticoat-lene and Harrow-!ane, on Sur.daye, between
eleven and one, were obstructed to such an extent'as to
render it dangerous to go there, and that by the worst
class in London Ho th light this was a sufficient jar-
tification for the question ef which he had given notice,
viz., whether the Secretary of S ate fer the Home De-
partment intended to take any seeps for the suppression
if the Sunday fair in ilountls i eh ?
Sr. It. CARDEN said that when his attention was
first drawu to the uhjec-, of Petticoat-line, he ceu'd
not believe such ahaminatioes existed. He took the
earliest opporten:ty of tinting it, and found thet every
Sunday some 10 or 12 thou and congrega•til
there, and no man could ve• tore into the lane without
having his pocket picked cr sline inset,. off red ti bins.
lie had already committed thr se teen to Newgate for
etea'irg watches there, and bad placed himeelf i t c ma-
munication with Sir It Mayne, to seo whether steps
could not be taken to put, an end to, or at lea-t to pal-
liate, this evil. The house w a not aware probably that
Petticoat-lane was peculiarly: ituatod. (Groat laughter.)
Petticoat-lane was a very small street ; but one he fof
the street was in Middleaex —(renewed laughter)—and
the other half in London. He could assure the house
that he did not wish to cay anything to cause laughter.
(Hear.) Unless the police on both sides of the street
were agreed as to the plan to be pursued, those who were
interfered with on one Fide escaped by going over to the
other side. Ile had no wish to interfere with anything
which added to the comforts of the working (lass..", but
he thought that if something were done to place matters
on a different footing it would be a great advan•
tege to the people of that locality. He had heard many
of those who kept stallsdeclare that they Would be very
glad if there were some enactment a hich would prevent
them from keeping Sunday in a manuer in which they
did not, wish to keep it. A short time ago there was a
great uproar with regard to a bill which was brought in
by Ler.l Ebury ; and be had heard on good authority
that many persons in this district paid men Si. each to
go to Hyde-park on Sunday to assist in the ag:tatien
against that bill. Sir Rethard Mayne had told bim that
he did not see his way to assist him in this matter. The
law with rsgard•taSuuday t-ading was, as they all knew,
in a peculiar state, Au action was brought the.other
day against opened a photographic institu-
tion onSan a man
Sunday. Ise
ewas a tailor during the whole of
the week, and a photographer on Sunday. (Laughter.)
Numbers of shopkeepers defied the authorities. A large
mass of cigar sellers had their shops open all day long.
Some of them were fined 55., but as they made more than
Si. profit, the evil continued. Petticoat-lane was,by no
means the only locAli y in which a sort of fair was he Id
on Sunday. There were sioiilar scenes in the New-cut,
Lambeth ; near the Brill, S mers-town ; in Monmouth-
street, St. ff
and in Ratcl -bighway. In lathiest"
localities there was a complete fair on Sunday, com-
mencing about 11 o'clock and terminating about two.
He bad thought it right to met Han this matter, because
it was an abomination which was causing great injury to
the working clasees, and which in his opinion the legisla-
ture ought to endeavour to suppress.
IRISH TENANT-RIGHT.
Mr. P. O'BRIEN wished to ask the Chancellor of the
Exchequer whether, on Satunclty last, he etated to a de-
putation cf Irish metnber, that it was his intention to
introduce oi the next re,,sion of Parliament any measure
to give effect to the measures proposed by the ptetnnt
Chaneel r of Ireland in 1852 in count ct on with the
question of lendlord and t eiatit in Ireland ; and wheth r
be was prepared to state d nuitively the intentiensef the
Government in regard to those measures The hon.
member coati la lied at so ue length of his exclusioa front
the deputation referred to in his question es utifair to-
wards one who had taken so prominent a part in con-
nection with th t nact-r.khthnestion in .hat house, and
stated that it was chiefly with the view of making that
complaint that he had put the question on the notice
paper.

THE THAMES NUISANCE.
Mr. 0. STANLEY ro,e, i pursuance of notice, to call
the attention of the house e h • putrid state of the River
Thames. When questions were put, he said, on that sub-
ject on previous occvionx, the Government said, in
effect, tbat they had now power to help them. He need
not tell the house that for the last three weeks the nui-
sance had been so great that it was impossible for mem-
bers to attend properly to their duties in committees

even in the house itself. (Hear.) He wished not, how-
ever, to cenfino the question to themselves, though he
was glad that it had come home to them, as but for that
the public at large would perhaps never have been relieved,
a t he now hoped they would be as speedily as possible,
from a nuisance which bad poisoned the air of the metre-
Fells, and which, if continued a few weeks, perhaps
even a few days, longer, might, with the present high
temperature, produce a pestilence. He would now
briefly refer to two or three cases which he had found in
the public papers of the previous day. In the first [dace
he learnt that Mr. Gurney, who bad charge of the ven-
tilation of the houses, had addressed to the Speaker a
letter, in which he said, "That he can be no longer re-
sponsible for the health of the house ; that the stench
has made most rapid advance within two days ; that up
to Thursday be got fresh air draughts from the Star
Chamber Court ; but that when night came the poisonous
enemy took possession of the court, and so beat them
outright." In the Queen's Bench report, he found the
following :—" Lord Campbell said, if he were assured
that the state of the atmosphere was such as to be darn
gerous to the lives of those attending court he would ad-
jearn that court. Was there a medical man present ?
eVIr. J. Bredell was sworn that he was compelled to leave
the court three times in consequence of the bad smells ;
lie gave it as his opinion that it was dangerous to health
and to those attending. It would produce malaria and
typhus. His lorc'ship said, in discharge cf his duty he
-would adjourn the court. The jury said the smell wag
very offensive in the passages, but net so b:ed in court."
in the Court of Exchequer, the Lord Chief Baron, ad-
dressing the jury, said—" I will be as brief as possible
in my remarks, for this reason, that the river at low
tide has become so offensive, as many of you doubtless
know, that it becomes all who can to get away from its
banks as soon as possible. A juror—l went home very
ill from it the first day of this trial, my lord. The Lord
Chief Baron—l am sorry to hear it, but many have like-
wise suffered. The stench from the river is most offen•
wive, and I think it right to take public notice of this,
that in trying this case we are really sitting in the midst
of a stinking nuisance." Again, there was an account
of a woman who attempted to commit suicide, and who
was nearly killed by the offensive rature of the water
which entered her stomach. A waterman having diet
sear the Tower, a jury which sat upon the body declared
that he died from the effects of the effluvia of the Thames.
An engineer was taken to St. Thomas's Hospital in
consequence of attack arising from the same cause,
The bad smell extended ail the way from Chelsea to
Greenwich. He had himself taken several trips in steam-
ers for the purpose of testing the effect produced, and in
many parts of the river he had great difficulty in stand-
ing on deck. The following was from a report issued last
week by the medical officer of the Dreadnought :—" The
water of the Thames stinks most abominably. I cannot
but think that the foul air has a deleterious effect gene.
rally on the health of the patients of this hospital, and I
kros that it has bed something to do with the inducing
of fever in two cases on the oriop deck, the portals of
which are only a tew feet above the surface of the water.
Several men on board, myself among the number, have
suffered slightly from diarrheet.” Ho had heard that
along the banks of the river, and more particularly on
the Lambeth side, many workmen employed there were
suffering from diarrheee, and that some of them bad been
obliged to leave their work in consequence. They were
all aware that in cases of offensive effluvia it was not im-
mediately that cholera, or fever, or other fearful calami-
ties visited seciej, but that it was after a certain time
when the frame got enfeebled and the blood was impove-
rished, that such esils appeared, and he feared that if
this nuisance went on unchecked the nostrep ,1 s would
suffer as it had not done since the time of the plague.
(Hear.) He had no wish to exaggerate; all he desired
was to bring home to her _Majesty's ministers, who were
the guardians of the public health, a question whice
affected not only the lie,htermen and workmen generally
in the vicinity of the Thames, but even Vie Sovereign in
her palace. They had expended thousands of pounds on
the piece of water extending from the Horse Guerds to
Buckingham Palace, but of what advantage woul i that
exoenditure be if the air along the banks were suffered
to be pestilental ? As regsrdtd the remedy for this
nuisance, they were at present subject to the ev le of a
double government, worse even than that of India.
This double government bad, in fact, brotigh ever] -
thing to a dead lock. On the one side they had the
Metropolitan Mani of Works with its engineers and
staff ; on the other side they had the Ceief Commis-
sioner of Works with his engineers and advisers.
Two proeoseiens had already been sub nittecl by the
Metropolitan Board of Works to the Chief Cemmissioner
f Works and rejected ; a third proposition had been
submhted by the Istatet to the former, and the c msi-
deration of it was, they were tell, put off hid next Octo-
ber. They had now arrived at a point at which some-
thing must he done, and in his opinion the only way of
dealing with the matter satisfactorily to the public was
• to place the resp ersibility where it ought to be, on the
ehoelders of the Government-, more particularly of the
/minister who had the special charge of that department.
Let that minister move a resolution f ,r the appointmeLt
of a commission—a pail commission, if the house pleased
—to carry out so much of the drainage of the metro-
polis as related to the main sewerage and the banks of
the Thames, and let then have full power to do every-
thing that was requisite to preserve the health of the
people. He wished to add a few words with regard to
the V ctoria sewer, for the state e.f which blame ap-
peared to him to attach either to the present or the late
Commissioner of Works. The construction of the Vic-
toria sewer was begun in 1849 or 1850. The original
cost was about 12,000/. ; but the concrete and brick-
work were so bad that they soon had to be renewed at a
cost of 16,0001. In the ye-er 1655 the expenditure on
that sewer was 60.0001, and since that time, it ha I pro-
bably cost 60,0001. more. For some tame the outlet at
Percy's NV hal f was ()locked up. After the filth had been
accumulating for months, the sewer was opened, and he
was told that it was the accumulated filth which was
thus senth forth that more immediately affected the
house of parliament, and peisone 1 the atutesphere in
. their vicinity. Having thus shadowed forth the re-
medy which he propose 1 for this ev:l, he would con
elude by putting to the noble lord the ChM Com-
missioner of the B ,ard of Works the fell,rwine ques-
tions :—" Whe• her it was true that the Victoria-
street sewer had had no proper outlet for many months
past, owing to its defective construction and partial
falling in ? Whether it be true that an outlet for all the
accumulated contents of the Vie oria-street sewer had
quite recently been made in cehe proximity of West-
minster-bridge and the houses of parliament? Hoe,
large an area of London is drained into the Thames ?
How much money has the Victoria-street sewer cost
from its construction to the present day ?
Mr. TITE wished to state a few facts in reference to
this important question. Having bestowed a great deal
of attention on the subject, he found that the L melon
sewage which was now being daily poured into the
Thames amounted to 90,000,000 gallons, white the
quantity of pure water that came daily through Ted•
dicgton lock was only 400,000,000 gallons. Mr. Gurney
stated that the sewage which was poured into the
Thames flowed down to the sea, but that instead of its
mixing with the sea the greater part of it returned up
the river. That being the ca e, the remedying of the
evil was undoubtcd'y an extrame y difficult matter.
(Hear.) The other day he accompanied the Chief Com-
missioner ef Works down the river, their object being
to ascer-aia for themselves its general conditior. Teey
found that by far the most offensive part of the river was
.over the mouth of the London Docks. That was an
evil which was certainly not irremediable. The dock
companies generally had the power of obtaining a good
supply of pure water ; but they ado wed exceedingly im-
pure water to accumulate and flew into the Thames,
and all that was requisite was that they should adopt
measures for having pure water passed from time to
time into their docks. The evil under which the house
was now suffering was, he apprehended, owing in a
great degree to the extraordinary state of the atmo-
sphere, which bad exhausted the upper streams, and if
so there could be no immediate remedy ; they must en-
dure it for the present. If it were true that the sewage
was returned from the sea it would be of little use to
embank the Thames. In 1845 a bill was brought in for
the embanking of the Thames from that house to Black-
friars-bridge at an estimated expense of 300,0001., but it
was opposed by all who carried on business along the
shore, and the buying up of all the trades on the barks
of the Thames was out of the question. In the year
1854 two engineers were appointed to consider this
question, Mr. Bazalgette and Mr. Heywood. They
proposed intercepting sewers on bath sides of the
Thames, to be carried on one side to Barking-creek, and
on the Kent side about the same distance down. He
believed this plan to be perfectly practicable and ade-
quate, if to it was added the obtaining some land for the
purpose of deodorising the sewage at those points. The
expense was very considerable, but he had been assured
by Mr. Bidder that day that for 40,0001. a-year the
whole sewage of this metropolis might be deodorised
and returned into the river, as was done at Leicester, in
so pure a state that it would not be injurious to fish.
This scheme had been rejected because it was said that
if the sewage was turned into the river at those points
it would be carried back to London ; but if to the plan
there was appended a scheme for deodorisation, that ob-
jection would be got rid of. This scheme of sewerage
might be carried out for 2,500,0001. He could not
suggest to the house that the sewage matter would pro-
duce one abiding, for he thought it would be found use-
less as manure, as it had been at Leicester. Now,
what was the impracticable project ? It was proposed
to take these intercepting sewers twenty miles further
• down, and pour their contents out in Sea Reach. Now,
if it were poured into the sea there, a very large pro•
portion of it would be returned, owing to its inclination
to float on the surface of the sea. He had been assured
that very day that this plan would cost 10,000,0001. of
money. He thought it was perfectly easy for the First
Commissioner to induce the dock companies to look
into the matter so far as they were concerned—indeed,
they were indictable for a nuisance; but he believed,
. flora the high character of the gentlemen connected
thoseetcompanies, that they would readily tike
mvietash put an end to the nuisance they occasioned.
,hole
The case of cholera which had been referred to occurred
exactly at
theipothe O—pe eastern entrance to the London
Docks—where
from foul matter was sonits-a,
thing inconceivably gensecaes. He believed very much of
the evil was to be attribut
preen on theGomveetrrnompeonlit.
could do this ; they Could to this.
tab Board of Works to
theatdnilstecptirose-
he had pointed out. Thisoceseede in notca.nri:eclithe sever down
vent a larger scheme. If they
to Barking, and hand it not aB;7
• further, and the first expensedid woull no they aould.go
hat be
;brown !sway. His,ouly object in slectre,,,in:ththe least,e
thet, !sieving paid some attention suljentsjse
a w's
desirous to direct the public mind in the right diremwai
at -this very important momeet. lie believed they had
seither time nor means to set about ethhanking the
riper, but if they set about carrying out the plan of in-
tercepting sewers, to which he had referred, he believed
- • • it would lead to a good result. (Hear, henr.) He wished
• $o refer to another point, Mr. Gurney 144 =ado a Yalu.
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