The Sun.
London, England, 1867-07-05 00:00:00

Mr. SEELY asked the First Lord of the Admiralty

his opinions coincided 'with those expressed by the lato
First Lord on the 19th February last, when ho said " that
the administration of a great department by a board is a
clumsy machinery," and " that the constitution of the
Board of Admiralty is inconvenient and not profitable to
the public service;" and, if he does agree in opinion with
the late First Lord, whether he intends consulting his
colleagues as to how far in their judgment a change may
be desirable.
Mr. CORRY said his experience as First Lord had been
but short; he was not yet sensible of any inconvenience
from the present arrangements, and as any
alteration
ought to bo approaehed with great caution, he was at pre-
sent indisposed to recommend any alteration of the system
at present in existence to his colleagues.
THE SLAVE TRADE.

Sir F. BUXTON asked the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs if his attention had been drawn to a report
of an interview between the Viceroy of Egypt and a
deputation of the British and Foreign Anti-slavery
Society in Paris,
at which the Viceroy stated that, "if
he were free to act against European slave-trader; the
slave trade would soon disappear" from the Nile ; and if
he was prepared to give the requisite authority to overhaul
and detain slave-traders hoisting the British flag ?
Lori STANLEY said his attention had only bmn drawn
to the subject by the notice the hon. member had put on
the paper. He believed that. the difficulty of dealing

with the slaveiraZontVe African side arose more from the
connivance of some of the inferior local authorities than
any other circumstance. With respect to the second part
of the question, he thought it ought to be approached with
the greatest care. Of course, theta was no wish on the
part of this country to protect the slave trade, but before
such an authority to overhaul and detain ships, hoisting
the British flag, was given, it would bo right to ascertain
that there were not certain treaties the infringement of
which might involve us in touch difficulty.
OVERCROWDING OF STEAM FERRY BOATS.
In reply to Mr WALDEGRAVE-LESLIE,

Mr. CAVE said the law was sufficient to prevent such
occurrences, viz., a penalty of £2O, and ss. for each pas-
senger carried over the legalised number. The only in-
convenience was that the party complaining of the over-
crowding must be the party to institute proceedings.
INDIA PRIZE MONEY.

Mr. T. OHAdii3EßS:asiedthe Secretary of State for War
when the Central India prize-money would be distributed,
and what had boon the cause of the long delay of nine
years ?
Sir J. PAKINGTON said the delay in paying the
money had arisen through litigation, but that was now
fortunately at an end, and therefore the prize-money
would be paid without any further delay.
THE FATE OF THE EMPEROR MAXIMILIAN.
Mr. SANDFORD asked the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs whether any information had been
received upon the subject of the alleged execution of the
Emperor Maximilian by Juarez ; and if there had, what
course the Government proposes to take in order to mark
their abhoronce of so groat a crime.

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Lord STANLEY said he had not yet received any offi-
cial communication intimating Emperor Maximilian, but the
the death of the ex-
opportunities were but
few, owing to the disturbed stale of the country in get-
ting direct communication. The death of the Emperor
was believed in Paris and Vienta, and although he might
fear the worst, yet, as he had already said, he had not
received any official communication announcing the
fact. If such was unfortunately tho case, it was a
very deplorable and impolitic act—(hear, hear)—and not
the less FO because acts of the same kind had taken place
on both sides. He thought they ought to wait for certain
intelligence before they spoke positively on the subject.
Even then, should it tarn out that the ex-Emperor had
been
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this country. (Rear, hear.)
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to the house embodying the feelitg of indignation at an act
of such atrocity. (Hear, hear.)
THE NAVAL
lIE VIEW. .

Colonel FRENCH asked the.F4TetlJord of the Admiralty
what arrangements had been inqe to enable the members
of both Houses of parliament to witness the naval review.
Mr. WARY odd the Admigiatr had engaged tWQ Q the

steamships of the Peninsular and Oriental Company for
the accommodation of the members of both Housesof Par-
liament. Four hundred tickets not transferable would be
issued by the Admiralty to the House of Lords and 450
to the members of the House of Commons. Special trains
would be arranged for conveying the members to Ports-
mouth, but they would have to pay their own railway
faros. (Hear, hear, and loud laughter.)
THE FENIANS.

Mr. F. DICK asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland
whether there was any truth in the report which had,
appeared in some of the London and Dublin papers
of a number of Fenians having been detected by the police
whils:t drilling last week iu the neigl.bourhood of Wick-
low ; and, in that case, how far the drilling in question had
been carried out ?
Lord NAAS said that throe or four of the police had
certainly discovered some parties drilling, and two persons
had been arrested, the rest, about twenty, running away.
The only military words heard by the police were "Right
;time, face; quick march." laughter.)
TUE REVIEW IN lIYDE PARK.

Captain VIVIAN said he wished to ask thu Secretary
of State for War whether it was the intention to hold the
review in Hyde Park to-morrow ?
Sir J. PAKINGTON 'aid the house bad already
been informed by his noble friend the Secretary for
Foreign Affairs that no official intelligence had been re-
ceived from Mexico. Nu command had yet been issued
from any quarter to countermand the review. (Hear,

hear.)
Viscount CRANBORNE asked whether it was intended
to have a mcrning sitting of the house to-morrow.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
did not propose asking the house to meet early to-morrow.
REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE —THE FOUR
BOROUGHS NOT TO BE ENFRANCHISED.
On the motion for going into committee,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it
was of the greatest importance that the bill should
be completed as speedily as possible, in order
that the other house might have proper time allowed it
for the consideration of the measure—(hear, hear)—as
he gathered that the house was generally in favour
of the distribution of members as proposed by
the Government ; and after the house had bottled
the clause proposed by the hon. member for Oldham, he
proposed that they should at once proceed to consider the
schedules of the bill. (Hear.) The determination of the
house to give an additional member to faur of the large
constituencies, had rendered it necessary to reconsider the
original proposal of the Government with respect to the
boroughs to be enfranchised, and the places they now
proposed to omit, to provide those four members, wore St.
Helen's, Keighley, Luton, and Barnsley. (Oh, oh, and
hear, hear.)
Mr. BRIGHT generally approved of tho determination
of the Government.
• Mr. GLADSTONE said he could not agree to the pro-
posal of the Government to go at once to the consideration
of the schedules. He had a proposal to divide South
Lancashire into two divisions, returning three members
each, and if he assented to the Government proposal he
should be precluded from bringing that matter before the
house.
Mr. LOWE said the Government was entirely to blame
for all the delay, as they had bungled the question of
Reform from the very, beginning. They commenced
by way of resolution, and from that time they had
gone on in the most roundabout way. (Hear, hear.)
He certainly should not abandon his proposal for
the cumulative vote till he had taken the vote of the
House. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. LAING said, on account of the advanced period of
the session, he would postpone his proposal for grouping.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. BOUVERIE said it appeared to him that the only
object of thus persisting in pressing these proposals in
Committee was delay and ultimate loss of the measure.
(Hear, hear, and no, no.) He thought the Government
propose I a reasonable ono.
POSTPONEMENT OF THE REVIEW.
At this point in the debate,
The Chancellor of the Exchequer rose, and, amidst
the utmost silence, said a communication had
a short time ago been made to the house with respect
to the Review. Since that time, however, official
information had been received which would prevent
her Majesty attending, in company with the mem-
bers of the Houses of Lords and Commons. Under
these circumstances the review, fixed for to-tifbrrow,
would be postponed, but only for a few days, when
her Majesty hoped to be able to attend that review,
iu company with her faithful Commons.

At the request of Colonel FRENCH,
Sir J. PAKINGTON stated the nature of the arrange-
ments for the accommodation of members ef both houses
on the occasion of the naval review at Spithead. Four
hundred tickets and a special train would, ho said, be pro-
vided fur the members of each house, who are to have a
luncheon at. the cost of the Admiralty, but who will have
to pay their own railway fares.
The house having gone into committee on, the Reform
Bill,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER made a
formal motion for reporting progress, in order to enable
him to make a suggestion that after Mr. Hibbert's clause
to make charges for conveying voters to the poll at borough
elections illegal, the committee should i roceed to the con-
sideration of the schedules. Should the house accede to this
suggestion, the remaining clauses of which private mem-
bers had given notice could be discusend on the bringing
up of the report, and the bill might go to the House of
Lords in time to receive the deliberate consideration of that
assembly. He feared, however, if this course were not
adopted, it would be difficult to set limits to the length to
which their discussions might be protracted. The right
lion. gentleman added that he proposed to get a third mem-
ber for Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, and Leeds by
giving up the scheme of enfranchisement originally pro-
posed for St. Helens, Keighly, Luton, and Barnsley.
The suggestion of the Chancellor led to a somewhat dis-
cursive debate, in the course of which Mr. Bright expressed
his opinion that there was a great deal of reason in it, and
recommended the house to agree to it. The hon. gentle-
man also read a letter addressed to him by Mr. %V. H.
Reece, of Dartmouth, imploring him to use his influence to
get that borough disfranchised on the ground of its exten-
sive and irredeemable corruption. Mr. John Hardy (mem-
ber for Dartmouth) admitted that the borough was not im-
maculate, but contended that it was no worse than many
others, and that it would be unreasonable for apy Whig to
insist upon the disfranchisement of a place so close to the
historic spot at which the great reformer, William of
Orange, had lauded. Mr. Lowe expressed himself dissatis-
fied with any mode of manipulating the bill which could
deprive him of the privilege of taking the sense of the
house on the principle of cumulative voting. Mr. Bouverio
and Mr. White approved of the plan as calculated to facili-
tate the progress of the bill, and eventually the subject
dropped ; and the committee resumed the consideration of
the clause proposed by Mr. Hibbert, making the payment of
expenses of conveying voters to the poll illegal. Mr. llib-
bert stating he was willing to exclude counties from the
operation of the clause, and also to make an exception in
favour of the boroughs of Retford, Shoreham, Aylesbury,
and Crickdale, a division was taken on the motion that
the clause bo read a second time, which was agreed to by
166 to 101. A proposition to include Wenlock among the
excepted boroughs was subsequently negatived, and the
clause was ordered to stand part of the bill.
A clause proposed by Sir T. D. LLOYD to declare illegal
the employment by committees for election purpcses of
rooms in houses licensed fur the sale of intoxicating
liquors underwent considerable discussion. Much time
was wasted and many impractieable amendments were
inrroducod, until at length the house gladly availed itself
of a motion to negative the, clause in globe, which was
done on a division by 167 to 98.
Mr. LOWE next proceeded to move his clause in favour
of cumulative voting. It provided that at any contested
election for a county or borough represented by more than
two members, and having more than ono seat vacant,
every voter should bo entitled to a numb° r of votes
equal to the number of vacant goats, and might give all
such votes to one candidate, or might distribute them
among tho candidates, as ho thought fit. This proposal,
he observed, was the last of the expedients which could
bo suggested for giving some variety to the franchise,
and if this failed to receive the approval of the committee
he feared they must content themselves with having a
uniform franchise placed in the hands of the lowest classes
of the community.
Mr. LIDDELL moved that the Chairman report pro-
gross, urging that the subject was of too much importance
to be discussed at midnight.
Mr. T. HUGHES spoke in support of the clause, after
which the house divided, and the motion to report pro-
gress was negatived by 213 to 88.
• Sir C. RUSSELL then moved that the Chairman leave
the chair ; and, after a short discussion,
the Ch a
nd the
the Exchequer assenting, progress was reported,nc of
Chairman obtained leave to sit again this dy.
a
Several bills wore advanced a stage, and housee ad-
iourned at 20 minutes past ono uutil tivo o clock this day.

THE WIMBLEDON REVIEW--To enable the
necessary arrangements to bo made, it
the review at i t his requested that
Volunteer corps intending to take par
Wimbledon on the 20th instant will send in their applca-
Lions for permission to attend in the usual manner (on
W. 0. Form, 1,629) as early as possible. No applications
will be received at the War-Once after Monday, the 15th
instant. In making their applications for permission to
attend, commanding officers should state whether the
corps under their command will march to Wimbledon, or
go by railway to Wimbledon station, or by steamboat to
Putney.—George Erskine, Colonel. War-office, July 4.
TYNE SALMON. —Within the past ten days there
have been large takes of salmon on the Tyne, and fish of
prime quality is selling at ls. per lb. Great numbers of
this fine fish are seen leaping at the mouth of the Tyno
nightly, and within the past two or three years, since they
have been better protected, this river has been largely re-
plenifs44 with stamen.