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of that organised body, who are banded together to keep
down liberty and to keep it under the heel of the despot, in
the very face of a body thus trained, thus armed, thus ac-
coutred in every possible way for the purpose of keeping
down a nation, these things were prepared, and thrown near
the Emperor, to the great d anger of his life. All this, I say,
was clone in spite of his terrific police. Arid then, when his
police fails, he turns upon us and says, " Oh, but E gland is,a den of assassins, for she has sheltered these men, and) ou
ought to altar your police law." (Hear) And why de I say
that the Emperor of the French calls Ragland " a den of as-
sassins ?" Because that expression has found its way into
the elbititettr. It would have not fervid its evay there bat
for the permission of Luis Napoleon. (Hear, hear.) He is
answerable for everyth ug there said, and I fix upon him the
responsibility c f insulting my country. (Hear, hear.) That he
t o he of allrnen upon earth—should dare to insult England
—he who has partaken of our hospitality, who has bees shel-
tered by our fostering power. AS. hat, after all this, has he
done ? .01i, he sets a bright example to England There was a
man who conspired to kill England's great hero, the lato
Duke of Weliington—(bear)—there was another man, who was
great hut fallen in his greatness —and no one act of his life was
I think, so thoroughly inconsistent with that greatness as
his leaving a legacy to the man who had attempted -
te assassivate the Doke of Wellington. (Hear, hear,) Tho
only explanation of, the only excuse for, that deed, was that
the great Napoleon's mind was shaken to the foundation. I
do not believe that lie would in his ri lit senses have perpe.
trated so infamous an act. But the man who has received
the protection of England, who has come he e after attempt.
ing crime after crime against his native hind; that man when
he had climbed to the height of power at which he has now
arrival, what did he do but pay to this intending assassin the
wages of his intended dirty action. (' No," from Mr.
Bowyer.) Oh, I have heard the lion, and learned gentleman
defend the King of Naples, (Great laughter.) This man
(Cantillon) is now living in Paris, and it was publicly and os-
tentatiously anneuneeti that the present Emperor of the
Frengh had paid him the legacy which was left him by the
great Napoleon for attempting to cut off the Duke of Wel-
lington. (Hear, hear.) When these panegyrics are thus
profusely scattered in the English House of Commons over
the head of Louis Napoleon, I hope the house will recollect
this fact. (Hear, hoar.) But, sir, if it were necessary that
this alteration should be made in the law, I now come to ask
if this is the right time ? (Hear, hear ) And now, sir, I will
address myself to the noble lord ; and I will ask him how i
is that he is in his present position. (Laughter.) He is
there because the people of England believed him to bo the
enemy of despotism in Europe. (Hear, hear, and Oh.) Yes,
that is the reason the noble lord is there, I recollect saying
before the noble lord came into office that ho alone might
constitute a ministry—that with a row of cyphers by his side
lie might be the prime minister, So popular was ho with
the peopl sof England that I said he might go into the streets
and select whom he liked for colleagues ; and in order io
prove the truth of wl.at I stated the noble lord has pretty
well acted upo it. (Loud laughter and cheers.) But such,
sir, was the character of the noble lord. The people believed
that he was a thorough English minister, and that the des-
pots of Europe trembled before him. It was thought that
the dignity, the honour, and the name were safe in his keep-
ing ; but how has the noble lord fulfilled the expectation of
his country ? (Cheers.) Why, an offence has been com-
mitted in Franco, for which the French police alone are
responsible, and the Emperor of the French turns round and
insults the people of England—nay more, be not only in-
sults them, but by his satellites he threatens them. (Hear,)
The noble lord tells us to-night that he has got a despatch
which says that the Emperor entirely disclaims the publica-
tion of those letters. (Hear.) I should like to know the date
of that despatch. (Hear.) I should like to know if it has
not arrive l since last Friday (Hear.) I should like to
know if it has not arrived in consequence of a certain state.
moot made in the Count de Persigney's car ; and if, in fact,
the noble lord has not told the Emperor that there ie rising
a feeling in the people of England that he has insulted them,
and that they resent the indignity which he has cast upon
them ? (Cheers.) We are told that the Emperor isaccustomed
to receive letters like these to which I am referring; that he
has gone through many occasions like the present. (A
laugh.) I never said anything against the French army
addressing to him any letters they liked, but there is nothing
said about their publishing them on those former occasions
in the Moniteur. (Hear.) How came those letters there
They came there by the order of the French Emperor.
(Hear.) Why, in a country which no man dares to say that
his soul is his own, do you mean to tell me that any minister
woud dare to publish anything but what the Emperor liked /
Do you think that] the Count de Morny or the Count do rer-
signy would do anything offensive to the Emperor? Not
a bit of it. They receive their inspiration from the Tuileries.
The great god on those occasions is Louis Napoleon ; and it is
he, speaking through his minister, who has iusulted the people
of England, (Cheers.) Ic asks that our laws may be altered
so as to ennish those who sent the assassins over, What does
he mean by that 1 Does he mean to say that the people of
England send anybody to assassinate people anywhere ? Do
we not know that Mr. Fox told the first Napoleon thatthere
was a conspiracy against his life ; and do you think that we
are different from our ancestors? God knows that we are
degenerating fast —(laughter)—but I do not think we have
yet sunk so low that we would send anybody to assassinate
either an enemy or a so-called ally. (Hear, hear.) The people
of England are a brave people. They put down one Napoleon,
and they aro not afraid of another. (Cheers.) We are told
that Louis Napoleon is our ally. Is it the business of ono ally
to trainee another I Does it show a friendly spirit to charge
an ally ith an atrocious act like that of which we have been
accused? for I distinetlyreiterate that Louis Napoleon is alone
answer.ble for these insults upon the people of England,
(Hear) I say that this is not the time when the House of
Commons ought to consent to alter the law, even supposing
for the moment that the a toration was a good one, which I
deny. There have been times in our history when a noble re-
sistance has been made to formidable foreign foes ; and if the
shales of those who have passed away still retain any particle
of human feeling, how must the shades of those wh) resisted
Philip 11., Louis XIV., and the first Napoleon look down
upon a House of Commons employed at the dictation of a
Punch monarch in altering our laws, (Cheers.) If wo submit
to such an indignity, God knows how we shall be degraded.
I say that for the people of England to alter their laws in
consequence of a foreign threat is a humiliation not only to
us but to mankind at large ; and because I regard this bill as
a humiliation and a degradation, I oppose it on its first intro-
duction. I say that as freemen, and as the protectors of the
oppressed in Europe, we ought at once to throw it out with
the ignominy it deserves. (Loud cheers,)
Mr. WARREN was understood to move the adjournment
of the debate. (Cries of "Divide," and " Adjourn.")
Lord PALMERSTON— I had hoped that we might have
coma to a decision upon this question to-night ; but if there
aro other gentlemen who wish to speak—and the subject
is no doubt one upon which many may desire to express their
opinions—in that case I should not object to the adjournment
of the debate. (Hear, hear.)
Tho debate was accordingly adjourned till this day.
THE BANK COMMITTEE.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in moving to
nominate the committee, gave an explanation of the reasons
which had caused him to alter the list of names from what it
originally stood. In consequence of the noise occasioned by
members leaving the house the details were net heard, but
the right hon. gentleman said that the alteration had been
made in order that there might be more commercial men
upon the committee.

Mr. CAY LEY was understood to deprecate the exclusion of
the gentlemen for whose names others had been substitute&
Mr. GREER opposed the nomination of the committee at
that period of the evening, and said that, if necessary, he
would move the adjournment of the house.

Mr. BENTINCK protested against the exclusion of county
members from committees of this description.
Mr. TITE said he had been placed on the committee last
year as represents ive of a large joint-stock bank ; if he was
now left off some person connected with tho same interest
ought to be placed on it.

Mr. E, BALL compla'ned that there was not a sufficient
representation of the agricultural interest; lie was surprised
to find his own name omitted, but he was informed that it
was not considered that he took much interest in subject.
He left the matter in the hands of the house, but he thought
he had not be n treated with courtesy.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER disclaimed any
personal feeling in the matter ; he had proposed the name at
the hou. member for Liverpool, as it was considered desirable
to have some gentleman connected with commerce.
Mr. CAIItD said tho inquiries of the committee were to be
extended to the Irish anl Scotch banks, and their interest
ought t repr sented on it.

Lord J. MANNERS thought no case had bean made out for
the emission of either of the hon. members.

Mr. GREER moved that tho debate be adjourned.
Mr. PRICE said his name had been proposed as a repro.,
sentative of the banks of issue. He had no wish to displao•
any nr:.
hon. member, but he thought some mbers eouneetei
with these banks ought to be Placed on the committee.
After some further discussion,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had no
objection to strike out the names of Mr. Price and Mr. Hors-
fall, and replace: Mr. Tite and Mr. E. Ball ; that would make
the constitution of the committee the samoas last year.
The motion for the adjournment was then negatived, and
the reso'ution that the committee do consist of 25 members
agreed to.

The follow:ng members wore hen nominated on the com.
mitteo :—The Chancellor of :she Exchequer, Mr. Disraeli, sir
James Graham, Mr. Spooner, Sir Charles Wood, Mr. George
A. Hamilton, Mr. Gladstone, Mr. Cayley, Sir Francis Raring,
Mr Vance, Mr. Cardwell, Mr. Blackbnrn, Mr. Wilson, Mr.
Weguelin' Mr. Harkey, Mr. Hope Johnstone, Mr. Ennis, Mr.
Puller, the Earl of Gifford, Mr. Fergus, Mr. John L. Ricardo
Mr. M. Tucker Smith, and Mr. Glyn. •
MARKETS AND FAIRS (IRELAND) AND CLERKS OF

PETTY SEiSIONS (IRELAND).
Mr. H. HERBERT obtained leave to bring in bi lo relating
to the above oubjeetv.

COMMITTEE ON THE TRANSPORT OF TROOPS TO

Sir DE L. EVANS having moved the app.intment at Orli
committee,
S r J. PAKINGTON moved that the committee should be
limited to nine in number.
The amendment was negatived 'without a division, and the
forowing members were nominated on the icouatuittee
De Lacy Evans, Viscount Cocicrich, Lord Stanley, Sir John
Pakington, Mr. Horzman, Sir E lward Crlebrooke, Sir James
Elphinetone, Mr. Alder'py, Sir Charles Napier, Mr. (Morns,
Mr. J. Viviang, Mr. Bing, Mr. Willoughby, Mr. Crawford,
and Mr. Seymour. Power to send for persons, papers, anti
records. Five to be the quorum.
keel DE Nrs ON RAILWAYS.
Mr. BENTINCK nominated the select committee as fel*
lows:—Mr. Bentinck, Mr. Lowe Mr. Cross:ey, Mr. William
Hodgson, Mr. Blackburn, Lord' Adolphus Vane Tempest,
Mr. Ilume, Mr. Fran, is Scott, Mr. Kendall, Mr. Goo. Clive.
and Mr. Jackson. Power to send for persons, papers, and
records. Three to be the quorum.
Agreed to.
GAOLS AND HOUSES OF CORRECTION.
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forlecaonestoe piing in in a
and to
endinagmetakl
laws relating to gaols and houses of correction.
The house adjourned at ten minutes aster one o'clock.

REFORM CONFERENCE.—A oonference of delegates fey
the metropolitan districts and provinces—bat how ap•
p ,inted we know not—was opened yesterday at St.
Martin's Hall, to consider the terms of union betweea
the working classes (i. e., a body of Chartists who de-
signate themselves as snob) and the middle classes wttk
regard to the terms to be accepted in the forthcoming
Reform Bill was inaugurated at St. Martin's Hall yes.
terday, when Mr. Lucroft was elected chairman for the
preliminary business, Mr. Alderman Livesay, Rockdale,
treasurer, and Mr. Bubbs, Bermondsey, treasurer, n
finance committee of five being also appointed. Al,'
some minor regulations as to the length of time to be.
lowed to stwo
peakers, the meeting adjoureveaclfZi
o'clock, when a discussion took place
of reform, such as universal
perty qualification for members, _
ofthe deliberations of th•
known at A general meeting
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to whom 'hedoufty of confirming or non
the conference will be
on Thursday ;
--sconfirming the proceedings