The Sun.
London, England, 1860-07-07 00:00:00

and liberality with which the question was being treatedby

the commissioners of the French Government. (Hear,

hear.) They were as anxious as our commissioners that
there should be a great trade between the two countries—
(hear)—and when a government in amity with our Govern-
ment was endeavouring frankly and fairly to open the doors
of the two countries to extended trade, he was neither a
statesman nor a patriot who endeavoured to defame and de-
, predate the treaty in the eyes of the people, and thereby, if
possible, to prevent its success. (Cheers.) Some eaid that
the budget was novel and gigantic in its proportions. Thes
I only novelty was the abolition of the paper duty ; the tariff

was exactly the tariff which hon. gentlemen had been re-
commending since they were converted. (Cheers.) Alter
having acknowledged certain great principles and witnessed
their beneficent action through the country, was it manly,
generous, or becoming in hon. gentlemen opposite to oppom
the further extension of those principles which the whole
country admitted to be rood ? (Hear, hear.) They boasted
of the freedom of commerce. The commerce of this country

Nad doubled since he had had a seat in that house. (Hear.)
Ha had never thought such an extension possible.
By attacking, through the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
principles so excellent, and which had been proved to be so

beneficial to the country, hon. gentlemen did not increase
their reputtztion or influence with those whom they ;pro-
fessed to repre.4o.-tt. There was not a cottage in the king-
dom where the \rya:As of the Chancellor of the Exchequer

did not give hope, i1,1,:d where his measure—defended by au
eloquence which few could equal, and a logic which none
could contest—did not spread comfort upon the humble
board, and give consolagou to the toiling millions of this
kingdom. (Cheers.) Having these views,, and feeling them
from his heart, he asked hon. gentlemen to put aside this
constant contest on financial changes. He appealed to the
experience of the past and the present condition of the
country, and asked them to interpose ne furth'er obstacles
to those principles of good legislation. He grievad that
noble viscount had not shown more courage, and that the
house had not manifested greater self-respect. ttlear.)
He believed that this might be regarded as the first' occa-
sion for 500 years on which the Commons of England a based
themselves before the irresponsible and hereditary chan 2ber.
(Hear.) He at least and those who acted with him w4)uld
be clear from any participation in this ; they would be free
from the shame which he believed posterity would attac h to
the chief ectors in this proceeding. (Heal%) The house would
recollect that he protested against the order of referee Ice,
because he thought it was calculated to evade rather thar t to
promote their investigation. But being on the committ es,
he sat and watched on the committee with an earnest s in-
cerity on the part of the House of Commons. He felt it an.
honour to sit in that house up to the present time. lie
hoped that hereafter the character of the house might n et
be impaired by the course aboutto be taken. He had ende a-
voured to show to his countrymen the almost treason whic di
was about to be committed against them. (lam, hear.)
Ile had refused to dishonour the names and the malice;
of such men as Coke and Seldon, and Glanvil and Py 111- ;
and if he was defeated in this struggle he should have ti AB
consolation, that he had done all he could to maintain tl 115
honour of the house, and not to sacrifice in any degree tb to
sacred interests which his constituents had committed t V
his care. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. MELLOR and Mr„ WHALLEY both moved the ad-.
journment of the debate amidst loud cries for a division.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped the house would Some to s.
division that night. (Hear.) The question had been fully
discussed, and he believed the house was prepared to come
to a decision upon it. (Hear, heat%)
6 Mr. BRIGHT suggested that the first resolution might
be agreed to, and any further discussion taken on the se-
cond and third resolutions. (" Hear, hear," and "No,
no.")
Mr. DISRAELI said the whole of the resoluticrns had
bowl discussed together, and he thought the house had
better' decide upon them as a whole.
Afte.r a few words from Mr. CONINGHAM, which were)
inaudibie,
Mr. 31.:ELLOR said that he should withdraw his motion
in respect to the first resolution, but he should wish to-offer
a few remarks on the second. (Cries of "Oh, oh," and
" Divide.")
The SPEAKER proceeded to read the first resolution.
Mr. WHALLEY moved the adjournment of the debate.
(Tremendous uproar.)
Sir C. NAPII3It observed that that was the third time
the hon. member had attempted to obtain a hearing.
The SPEAKER pronounced the first resolution to have
been agreed to, and proceeded to read the second.
Mn MELLOR said that he believed the second resolu-
tion expressed more th3n its framers had intended, and
more than the precedents justified. He proposed to a.dd the
words " relating, among other matters, to taxation." (Loud
cries of " Move.") The hon. member moved the insertion
of the words.
Lord PALMERSTON objected to the insertion of these
words. The words of the r esolution, however seviwely
they might be criticised, had been carefully considerect,, and
fully expressed tho meaning they were intended to convey.
The words "bills of several descriptions" were sufficieitly
comprehensive ; the meaning being, that bills had been Iv-
jc.tca ielating to taxation. He thought the words proposed
totally unnecessary.
Mr. BRIGHT said that as the resobe tion stood it would
beat the interpretation that bills like thu Paper Duties Re-
peal Bill had been previously rejected. As that was noto-
riously not the case, and as some degenerate committee
might 50 years hence be using this resolution as a precedent,
perhaps it would be better to take until Monday to consider
the amendment. (Renewed uproar.)
Mr. WHALLEY moved that this debate be adjourned,
amidst great confusion and cries of "Hear, hear," and
" Divide."
The SPEAKER put the question, when a few voices
answering, " Aye," the house divided, and the numbers

were—
For the adjournment
Against it
Majority —397
The announcement was received with loud applause and
much laughter.
Mr. MELLOWS amendment was then put, to insert,
after the word "relating," in resolution 2, the words,
"against other matters."
The house divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment ... 59
Against it
Majority .. —303
The seceitd resolution was then agreed to
On the third resolution being proposed,
Lord FEN DSOY hoped the house would adjourn, and
give time to consider the question. (Oh, oh.) He moved
that the debate 5e adjourned.
Lord PALMEV.STON holed the noble lord would not
persevere with his notion, inasmuch as there was a great
deal of public business for next week, and it would be very
inconvenient to adjourn the debate.
After a few words from Mr. SCULLY,
The amendment was negatived without a division, and
the resolution agreed to.
The Local Taxation Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The Indemnity Bill went thfough committee.