The Sun.
London, England, 1858-04-21 00:00:00

OUDE.

General P. TH:DNIPSON said he bad a petition to
present from the :Dewsbury Debating Club, praying for
the rest•:ration of Oude.

Mr. WALPOLE doubted if a petition could be re-
ceived from a donating club in its collective capacity.
General P. T_ao ARSON said the petition was signed
by many individuals.
Mr. WALPOLE suggested the amendment of the
petition, so as t. make it as coming " from the under-
signed members of the Da webury Debating Club."
General P. TIIONIPSON said the petition should be
so amended.

An Hon. Member said that petitions from Chambers
of Cmimerce had been frequently received signed only
by the Chairman. of such bodies.
CHRISTIANITY IN INDIA.

Mr. HUNT presented a petition from a place in
Huntingdonshire, praying that Christianity may be made
he basis of the future Government of India.
INCOME TAX.

Sir J. V. SHELLEY presented petitions from the
inhabitants of the Metropolis, praying for such an adjust•
anent of the income-tax as shall make a distinction be-
tween fluctuating and precarious incomes, and incomes
derived from realieed property.
CHURCH RATES ABOLITION BILL.
On the motion for going into committee,

Mr. PACS P.: moved an amendment that the bill be
committed this day six months. No one respected con,
acientiousobjeetions, in matters of religion, more than
he did, but he apprehended that in this case the objec-
tion to pay church rates resulted from a lees elevated
feeling than that of conscientious scruples. He cited the
evidence of a number of witnesses examined before the
Church Rate Committee, to show that the principal
objections hitherto advanced against church rates did
not ari-e from conscientious feelings. He denied that
there was any general desire for the abolition of church
rates, and he cited in support of his assertion the rejec-
tion of the champion of the cause (Sir W. Clay) by the
Tower Hamlets ; and Mr. Mir..ll, a groat writer as well
as speaker on the subject, by Rochdale.
Mr. K. SEYMER seconded the amendment.
Mr. HUGGESSON cordially supported going into
committee on this bill. He considered the amendment
came with a bad grace from the ministerial side of the
house, because, if the present government had not been
in power the future charge of the bill would have been
handed over to the noble lord (Lord Stanley) secretary
for the colonies. There was a great and growing feeling
in the country against church rates, though the
returns might not show it. Thousands who ob-
jected on principle to church rates paid them
on account of the smallness of the sums generally levied.
Church rates were undoubtedly wrong in principl
They were a grievance to the disseute r, and so far from
this objection to them being made a breeches pocket
question, they were contested on principle. (Hear,
hear.) He contended that church rates were an
occupiers tax, and that they ()eight not to be en.
forced on dissenting occupiers, and be denied that the
abolition of the church rate would benefit the landed
interest. As a zealous churchman, he felt humiliated
when he heard it raid by churchmen that if the rate was
abolished the fabric of the church, in many instances,
would be allowed to fall into decay. (Hear, hear.)
Where parishes were too poor to pay a rate, he
thouelit the fabric of the church shoull be repaired
out of the funds in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Com-
missioners. To take the money out of the pockets of
dissenters was a disgrace to the church. (Hear, hear.)
Dissenters were worthy of their consideration, for we
owed much of our liberties to them. The church ought
to be freed from this tax, and rest on the affections of
the people for her support.
Mr. PUGH. (Carmarthenshire) supported the motion
or going into committee. It was high time for the
peace cf the country this question should be settled.
The sacred cause of Christianity also required that the
question should be set at rest for ever. England was
the only country in which these scandals could arise
about repairing the fabric of the Church.

Mr. K. SETMER was anxious to give relief
to dissenters to church rates, but not in the manner
proposed. He thought the house ought to be very
careful how they admitted the principle that no man
should contribute towards anything from which he dis-
sented. (Hear, hear.) He wished to relieve Dissenters
from the tax, but in return they must abstain from
voting for churchwardens, and other matters relating to
the Church. Such a compromise was proposed on a
former occasion by Mr. R. Ybillimore, but njected on
the ground, as he believed, that the abolition of the
Church-rates, as now proposed, would be the first instal
meat towards separation between Church and State.
The opponents of such a change were ready to meet
that question openly in that house and defeat them.
(Hear, hear.) He objected t ) its being attempted by a
side wind like the present.
Sir. G. GREY objected to the continuance of the de-
bate. Ti• principle was confirmed on a former occasion
by a majority of 53 in a house of 400 members, and it
was inconvenient to renew the debate on going into
committee.

Lord J. MANNERS considered the principles of the
bill required further discussion. The continuance of
Church-rates was a Dissenters' grievance alone, but this
bill went far beyond that. It proposed not only to
tree-
lieve the consciences and pockets of Dissenters, but b
pockets of rich and influential churchmen, aetaidhye expensetomeet
of the poor people of the country, He was.r.endiy,,pinit,
the alleged grievance in an amicable andtraris..e
_d
pre.
but his objection to the bill was that it set "
settlement
eluded all possibility of entering into s
n3thine
of the question. He was decidedly
abo-
lition of a rate that secured the free :11
provided for it.
going into committee on
Lion of the Church to the poor no°ll7.3odpetno
subkitutwtrs
Lord H. VANE sup
0b„..43 better considered
in a EXCHEQUER said—
t theha n
discussion
81
oh
no
odlitiatpgiocl sfrpttrebci supported
principles.
The CHANCELLOR
_nro rteentirely concur in the opinions that have
ed by the noble lord (Lord J. Man-
rosist the conviction that this
bAeletoh osuogaliblly
y,,
ners), I
hejaasn- now arrived at that stage when
icituntli° h2e desirable and interesting to the house that we
should discuss any particular proposition that can be
made fur the solution of this difficulty—(bear)—and
with that view I feel there will be some advantage in
assenting to their going into committee, although I can-
not express, for my own part, any sanguine hope that
the labours of the committee will materially improve the
proposition contained in the bill, and remove those objec-
tions referred to by hon. members in the course
of the debate. In committee the house will
have an opportunity of considering the suggestions
made la•t year by the right hon, baronet the member
for Morpeth relative to some alteration in the morttuain
laws, in which this question is involved in reference to
those vrho have life or limited interest in estates ; but

there is an amendment on the paper deserving of the
serious consideration of the house—(hear, hear)—and
so far as I can form an opinion, unless it is discussed at
this stage, it will be impossible for the hon. member for
Hertfordshire to introduce it in committee. (Hear.
hear.) It is more important that the house should
have an opportunity of discussing that amendment
than of coming at once to a decision on the motion
of the hon. member for Leicestershire (Mr. Paoke) for
going into committee on this day six months, merely to
defeat the decision taken on a former occasion, and I
therefore hope the bon. gentleman will withdraw his
notice, in order that we might discuss the amendment
of the hon. member for Hertfordshire. (Hear, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said he thought it desirable that
the motion should be withdrawn, in order that they
might at least make some attempt to settle the question.
The prospect held out by the public paper. that her
Majesty's Prime Minister intended to defeat the bill in
the House of Lords would be a very unsatisfactory
settlement of the question. (Hear, hear.) He wished
to endeavour to settle the question, either by this bill or
some other, and he thought the amendment of the hon.
member for Hertfordshire was well worthy of considers..
tion—(hear, hear)—and he ventured to second the ap-
peal of the Chancellor of the Exchequer for the with-
drawal of the amendment now under consideration.
(Hear, hear) He, however, suggested that the hoe.member for Hertfordshire should so alter his amendment
that the house should only discuss the points involved
in Church-rates, the repairing of existing churches and
making provision for the celebration of public worship,
but omitting that part in reference to the building of
churches and chapels which was beyond the scope of the
bill now before the house, and should form the subject of
another discussion and another bill. He was glad to find
that the honourable baronet the member for Mot-
peth (Sir G. Grey) had no intention to pro-
pose in committee that those places that had
decided against Church-rates should be excluded
by act of Parliament from Churchrates in future, whilst
it was to be perpetuated by act cf Parliament in these
places where each opposition had not been made to the
rate ; and that he intended to support a clause prohibit-
ing Dissenters, if relieved of Church-rates, from inter-
fering in its disposal. Although he (Lord J. Russell)
voted, on a former occasion, for the abolition of Church-
rate,,, he did not by that preclude himself from consider-
ing, if any substitute could be provided—(bear, hear,
and cries of "divide ")
After some remarks from Mr. NEWDEGATE,
Mr. PACKE rose and asked to be permitted to with-
draw his amendment. (Hear, bear, and cries of "No.")
Mr. BRIGHT said those who were in favour of the
bill had some grounds of complaint against the course
now proposed. (Hear, hear.) The house bad been
occupied in discussing the motion, and now,
for the convenience of some one who did
not like to have his name in the division
list—(bear, bear)—the Dissenters were determined
to get ILI of Church-rates—(cheers)—and anyone who
thought a middle course could be adopted would be
much deceived. He did not think hon, members need
be afraid of the intimation given that the bill would be
rejected in the House of Lords. (Divide, divide.)
After some remarks from Mr. STECTART, which
were inaudible from the noise in the house,
The SPEAKER put the motion for the withdrawal of
the anieadment, which was negatived.
The motion for going into committee was agreed to
without a division.
The house then went into committee.
Oo clause one, line 11,
Sir A. ELTON moved the insertion of words "delay.
ing the coming into operation of this bill for threeyeare."
After a short discussion, in which Mr. Roebuck, Sir
IL Willoughby, Sir G. Grey, Mr. Wigram, Lord Lo-
raine, Mr. Palk, Mr. Gladstone, Sir J. Trelawoy, Mr.
Dillwyn, Mr. Henley, Lord R. Cecil, and Mr. Bright
took part,
The amendment was negatived without a division.
Lord R. CECIL moved an amendment that the pro-
yieions of the bill should be confined to cities, and to
parliamentary and municipal boroughs in England and
Wales.

Sir J. TRELAWNY oppored the amendment.
A d.,:cussion ensued, in which Sir G. C. Lewis, Mr.
PJll,:r, , Mr. Packe, Mr. Spooner, Mr. Iletity, Mr. J.
Bright, N.ir. G•a•Wooe, and Sir J. Tifiawny :took part.
Toe arnt.mlment was wiv.drawn.
Tao CLIAIRMAN then put a question that clause 1
stand part ( f the bill.
Mr. LYGON moved that the chairman report pro-
gre:e. _ _

Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that the house should
Lot report progress. There was time to take a division
on the clause which attained the es-ence of the bill.
He did not approve of the principle of abolition without
a bubsti ute.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER con-
curred with the noble lord that it was desirable to talc*
the decision of the house on the clause.
Tne CHAIRAAN (.4 25 minutes to 6 o'clock) put
the amendment fur teporting progress. The committee
then divided, when the numbers were—
For reporting progress
Against it
Majririly against reporting progress —242
It was 8 minutes to 6 o'clock before the division Wall
announced, when by the lot me of the holm the Chair-
man was obliged to report progress.
WAYS AND MEANS.
The house then want into committee of ways and
means, when several resolutions were agreed to.
The other orders were disposed of and the house ad-
journed a few minuted before six o'clock.

MARRIAGE wrra A DECEASED WIFIVS
SISTER.

At the annual meeting of the general body of
Protestant Dissenting Ministors of the Presbyte-
rian, Independent, and Baptist denominations, re-
siding in and about the cities of London and West-
minster, held at the Congregational Library,
Bloomfield-street, last week—the Rev. J. Ken-
nedy, M.A. in the chair—the following resolutions
were moved by the Rev. Wm. Campbell, seconded
by the Rev. Wm. Miall, and adopted :
" 1. That, in the judgment of this body, the
question of the legality of marriage with a deceased
wife's sister is one which deeply concerns the do-
mestic happiness and social morals of the British
people.

_
"2. That, in the judgment of this body, the
marriage of a man with the sister of his deceased
wife is not forbidden by divine law, and ought not
to be forbidden by human law.
"3. That, in the judgment of this body, the
prtssure of the English law which declares such
marriages invalid is much aggravated by tho opinion
of Mr. Justice Creswell, lately given to the effect
that such marriages, although performed in a
country where they are lawful, are not consequently
lawful in this country ; a judicial opinion most
painfully affecting many marriages already con-
tracted, as well as others which may be in contem-
plation.
" 4. That, in the judgment of this body, it is,
therefore, now more necessary than ever to make
strenuous exertions for the repeal of the existing
law in this respect.
"5. That this body look with entire approval on
the bill for this purpose, introduced into the House
of Commons by Lord Bury, M.P., and do petition
both houses of legislature that the sane may palm
into a law.

From the London Gazette of Last Night

BANKRUPTS.

In the matter of the Sunken Vessels Recovery Company
the Commissioner has appointed May 5, at eleven, for the
hearing, at the Liverpool District Court.
Abraham Mark Cohen, paper stainer, Commercial-place.
City-road, to surrender April 29, at eleven, and May V,
at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Charles McKinnoll, merchant, Great St. Helens, April
29, at twelve, and May 28, at eleven, at the Court of
Bankruptcy.
Charles Powell, cheesemonger, Leather lane, golborn,
May 1, at eleven, and May 23, at half-past eleven, at the
Court of Bankruptcy.
Yorkshire, May 4 and Juno 1, at eleven, at the
William Thomas Senior, fellmonger, HorbuLrye;dbrsile
Dis-
trict Court.
Hill, Cheshire, May 7 and 27, at eleven,
St. John'.
DiTsthroicmtaCsouWrtainwright, cattle salesman,
rheant.airamet-rpoootw'thoi:
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and May 28, at twelve,
Wood, May 4, at half-past two,
Birmingham, April 26 and
and joaMl: niaeyl: 2i
Tilley,
cdaeet;" one,
builder,oi ,Ida etr, 't hier ° Courtnu°
cu, gao:frd-bankruptcyjrncrescent,
t,Aprils3o
at the Court of Bankrupitcs y-p
her Baker, and Charles Ed-
ward District Court.
'n Starkey, woollen cord manufaeturer, Sheep-
Benjami . May 6 and 28, at eleven, at the Leeds
ridge, Yorkshire,
District Court.
May w aSridli 1 Butler,
,b au trYteßnw: liatrltee rt
h'drawers,
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rußirmingham
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auctioneer,oAbm pearnd:n.
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John Maier, straw hat manufacturer, Glasgow
Robert Craig, innkeeper, Salteests.
W. and A. Adamson, merchants, Leith.

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THEApr
lAltri/101 AtNhSe INUnions
Lort.
Turin,
csiltration cf Austrian troops upon the Sardinian
frontier is occaiioning much remark. The Austrian
garrison of Piacenza. (in the Duchy
of Parma) is con.
visually augmented, and a detachment of 500 men had
arrived that day. Their violence and insolent bearing
continually excite the resentment and indignation of the
inhabitants. An officer of the detachment just arrived
chose to lodge in the apartments belonging to the Mar-
quill Filippo Anguissola, who happened then to be out
f town. The Austrian officer demanded the keys,
which the valet de chambre of the marquis refused to
Bice up to hits. The doors were then broken open, and
the Austrian, in spite of all protestations, installe4
-elf in the coveted abode. More than a hundred persona
belonging to the city had been drawn together by the
iumour of this outrageous: act, but were obliged to re.
nain pas-ive lookers on at the inva,ion of their
i fellow-
townsman's dwelling. The Austrian general n coat,
,nand having ordered the officer to be quartered there,
the order was put into execution by military force, and
the mayor of Piacenza, finding that he could not weft
Parwese civic authority in opposition to Austria,
bayonets, immediately resigned his °thee;

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