The Sun.
London, England, 1858-06-15 00:00:00

ART UNIONS.

Mr. W. EWART gave notice that he should on
Thursday move for leave to introduce a bill for legalieiog
Art UtllOl..W.

RELIGIOUS PROCESSION IN TUANI.
Sir W. VERNER asked the Attorney-General for
Iteland whether the government had received any cc-
count of a procesion in the streets of Team, which pro-
cession was composed of priests and others of the Church
of Rome, in their ecclesiastical costume, and carrying
the and whether tucli processton was crnformable
to law I

The ATTORNEY.GENER&L for IRELAND said

such pr,ces,ions would not becorformable to law, but the
application of the law depends on the existence of the
fact. lie had eeeu a report describing what had taken

place, but it did not state that any procession as that
decribrd took place in the streets of Tuam. (Hear,
hear.) He hoped there would not, and that the good
sense of the persona reft.rred to would prevrnt them
vichting the law.
INDIA RESOLUTIONS.
The house thou went into comnritteel on the India re
solutions, commencing with the sth resolution, as f,
lows—" That with a view to the efficiency and indepen•
deuce of the council, it is expedient that it should be
partly nominated and partly elected.
Lord STANLEY said it became his duty to propose,
for the consideration. of the committee, the re.wl,ition
just read. The house had already decided, without a
division, that the Minister for India should hare the
assistance of a council. The house undoubtedly intended
that that council should b 3 real and not merely nominal
--an assistance, and nor a scroan and a pretence. If

be council was to be a reality, it must possess subetan-
fal independence. (Hear, hear.) Not only so, but it
must be known to have that quality. It was a question
how far it would be poesible for a council formed on the
principle Of nomination, as proposed by Lord Palmere.
ton, to possess that character of independence. Trio
principle of nomination [night be applied under
three several modifications. The members of the
council might be nominated for life, or during good be-
haviour—the inure common form—as proposed by Lord
J. Hues. 11. They might be nominated f iv& long term of
years, without the power of re-election, or for a compare-
lively short term, as proposed in Lord Palanoston's
the Grevernment having the power of nominating them
a second time. As to the first proposition—nomination
for life—no doubt it did, to a great extent secure that ie.
dependence which was desired. It placed the members
oP nnincil, relative to the G )vernment who appointed
them, and all eucciedien Government., very much in the
position occupied by aju on the beech. The most
forcible oljectien a as that in a council of 12 or 15, under
a system f nomination for life, there would always be a
certein proportion who, from mental or physical irfirtaity
would be incapable of perfuming their duties in a
satisfactory manner. (Hear.) It might be said that that
did not neeeesaii y fuauw, and that the objection would
apply equally to the case of the judges. But there wan a
mate/ ial distinction betvveen theduties of ajudge and those
of a member of the propos, d comicil. A ju lge was brought
constantly and prominently In fore the public eve ; he
must be able to go to circuit, to sit eight or nine hours a
day for days toss ther iu eeurts of justice, to give his un•
divided attention during that time to close arguments
on difficult and complicated subjects, and to deliver his
judgments orally in the presence of a most vigilant,
critical, and intellectual audience, the Enelidi bar.
Hence, if he b:caine physically or men' ally dir'abled, his
incapacity wool I become the subject ef public notice
and general comment. This did not apply to a member
of the Indian council. The business was done in private
and so long as he could attend a committee in a private
room, look over papers, and go through the form of
tran-aetnae hu‘inees, however much his capacity for le-
-1 our niigbt be diminished, CF his judgment impaired he
would be able to go through the semblance of perferming
the duties allotted to him, and would not himself he
con,cioue that the time had come when he ought to be
replaced by a younger and abler man. The system of
life nomination, therefore, desirable as it undoubtedly
waa in some respects, would render necessary the ap-
pointment of a larger number of members than need
otherwise belong to it, to make allowance for two or
three who might be incapacitated, and in the next place
if the council were divided, as it ought to he into com-
mittees, very likely important posts is one or more COM.
mittens might be filled by men who were thus incapaci-
tated. The principle of nomination for a long tetra,
without the power of re-election, was obviously inexpe-
dient, on account of the different manner in which the
rule would operate on different persons. If a man of 40
were nominated for 12 years, he would be excluded from
the performance of his duty at an age when, when for all
deliberative purposes, his judgment was in its maturity,
and he was as fit as ever to discharge public duties. On
the other hand, if a man advanced in life were appointed
for 10 or 12 years, it was probable that he would be
incapacitated for duty before the close of his term.
Under this system the difficulty of the government.
in selecting efficient men would be increased. With
regard to the third mode in which the principle of no-
mination might be applied—that of the noble lord the
member for Tiverton, who proposed that the members of
the council should be appointed for a short time with a
power of re-appointment—he would only say that, prac-
tically, it would place the members of the council in
a position of far greater dependency than that of any
clerk employed in the public offices, for although the
minister had the power of discharging a clerk he virtu-
ally held his office for life if his conductkwneaws s;
whereas
theor council,
tlyexpire,
and knowing also
termofoffice
t
that he handenomwcelmoauibmledroosnhf the minister is be re-appointed
when that term expired, he would feel it a matter of
favour and individual preference if he was re-appointed
by the minister. Although this might have little effect
upon men of high honour and public spirit, it would still
affect such a man injuriously, because, however much
be might be inclined, from conviction to support the
policy of the minister, it would expose him to the risk of
misconetruction, to the risk of having it imputed to him
that he supported the policy of the minister against his
conscience for the sake of obtaining his nomination the
second time. (Hear.) Moreover, men of ability and ex-
perience would not be so willing to accept office for so
short a term as they would be if appointed for a longer
term, or in a different manner. Of these three modes of
nomination,
first was that which,
if they winerbeitoopfiselilorib,resented the leastapck on any one, the
inconvenience. But, before they consented to accept any
one of them, the house ought fairly and deliberately to
consider whether fie other necaes were available fc,r the
appointment of at least a portion of the council so pro-
posed. If the house were inclined to enter into the con-
sideration of such a project, it would probably not to
that in proposing that the principle of election be
substituted for that of nomination, they were not intro-
ducing any innovation, but building on the actual foun-
dation which they found in existence. lie believed the
house would admit generally that if a perfectly satisfac-
tory constituency could be found, that was a method
which would be preferred on all hands to the method of
nomination. The difficulty was to find such a constituency.
(Hear, bear.) And here he wished to say plainly and dis-
tinctly that in proposing to the house the elective prin•
ciple he was not at all confounding that with the prin-
ciple of representation. Anything in the nature of a re-
presentation of Indian interests in this country wag
utterly impracticable. If the representative system was
to be introduced into the government of India, it must