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''l to the particular Classes which have been Yo d
Yon to engage in that service.
These I h calleave at
eiesent omitted, as they are nor particularly con-
eeiled with the stihjea imw under consideration.—
"hr,ut proceeding farther upon it at this time, I
~ball merely conclude 115 . mottigr " That leave
he given to brieM
g in a Bill for Establishing and
aintaining a Permanent Akiditional Force in this
Country, for supplying the Regular. Army, and for
the gradual Reduction of the Militia.'!
The Motion being put,
M. IPINDUAII said, that considering this
Plan with reference to what had gone before, he
thought there was a great deed of improvement in
it,
a but.yet that improvement was not so. great as to.
do way his fear a, to its clef ets in many parts, or
to afford him a hope that he should be more able to
‘.gtee to it upon the whole, than the other which it
I"P"sed to. supersede. It was, indeed, very na-
teral,. that, upon such a subjed, difference of opt.
nion should arise, and his Righz H. Frien
self, who now brought this Plan forwardon, had foond
occasion to differ materially, from that Which he had
e
stated as his P;an on a former occasion. H was
afraid, that his difference, on this occasion, from his
Right Hon. Friend, was so fundamental, that it
could not be cured by any- modification ; and that
difference would, therefore, compel him to dissent
from this scheme, the reasons of which he would ex-
plain to the Heuse ; -and lie- was afraid that much difficulty belonged to almost every principle of this
sort, because it was a principle flowing out of mixed
and d.4cordant materials. He did not say, that he
differed from this Plan in every part ; there were
certainly some parts which he looked upon with great
satisfattion and they were parts to differ f which
would he to 4liar from, hitnself, rom and that trio upon
points in which he had the good fortune toagree with
his Right Hon. Friend. The points onWhich he agreed
with the prei,ent Plan were, as he should state them
in their order. The reduaion o f the Militia was
one; he had girged it, and so had my is
Friends, cn several occasions, for Which tithe y f h
been censured ; but the principle on which the had
y pro.
ceeded was now. generally approved.
.iat art (A-
ttie Plan which .., rot to the reduCtionTl of- bopunties
for th, Arms', had also his approbation; he thought
a great point was gained ‘vhen that system was re.
Paced.
The system was toll of evils, which it was
Sy to foresee, and winch -at last every body felt.
Therefore these wcre two material points of which
.
he approved, as far,as tfev went to the reduction Or
the. Militia, and that of lowering the B oily in
providing men. f,r the Army. In any- iv;iy,t!,ese ,
Plan was Far,
two objetts could be accmopli-W. the
l'eularly welcome to him. But kills)
in the-farther her point,'weiich
PrVe.ss of this business, he collected
from the se,,e of the observatio'vs made, use of by
bit Right Hon. Friend, was to he brought forward,
.lie should eiewith pleasure, under such auspices ; he
meant that of .a commutation of the' service fyr iite
in the Regular ArtriV, by that of a service fora term-
,.
..(?ifye;.r.s„
.iie ~....,a's-si.):fulty convinced rat tree policy of
~ ~. 'Oat. s) steme-thar if he.had not colleaed friirl his
- : R.Right 1i0n.:14;.. a
rtes that he intended to• pro-pose it
I.itmell? he sh,,uid have Lne_sci‘,., Having, thus
Aouchecl oh • the [fairs of this plan to which he
a.gtee.d.,..he came
.now to the less. pleaSa. nt. part of
stng thoce•in which •he -differed : - and here he
Inould take, not a prolix, but a comprehensive
'vieW of the subject; for it w
at this as necessary to do so,
was a measure proceeding from a mixture
of voluntary and compulsive service. To abo.
lisp all the Militia wou!d not he a measure ae-
c:lding to the opinion that had so lung prevailed as
tn have become almo3t habitual to most men, whic'i
'lle would propose ; but he .felt much pleasure_in
assenting to d proposition for the reduction of that
ot-ee. The Atmy of Reserve be considered as a
bad rneastrie in itself ; but as it was a temporary
measure, it was not necessary to dis Cuss it when a
Permanent-One Was -und.-r consideration; hut as he
!hat onght we were rowth
in a great measure tree fro
idm
eon,era,v,ri which was so pressing uon us
p
as to do a.i ay every other, namely, apprehens
of great imminent and imo-aliate
.: danger,'toi bone
provided for on the instant ; whatever might be
the effed of it, we might now take a.fair view of
the pnlick of permanent measures ; we need not
now adopt measures for the present, and leave the
future to chance, for however great our danger
might still be, and however the measures hitherto
adopted might have been inefficient, vet,certandy, we
could not shut our eyes, and he should he very sorr
not to open his eyes to
see the present situation of f
this Couniry, unquestionably now in a much superior
state of security to that in which wn
the danger first opened upon us..-- e were whe tair Force was
now in a state of training, and, in a great
Prepared in discipline, and also
prepared in mind to
meet the Enemy : and therefore our safety was much
Letter secured titan it had been ,but then it roust be
I:4llembered, that in proptrion to the consciousness
w have
. ()four security, ought our caution to be, when
consider
,nit,orleixcitise from the
ing any permanent system, because-we had
".'s• had therek,„ pressure of an immediate danger,
This plan
..A., , Proper opportu.nity to deliberate.
to‘ fill up the
aotied nothing to our force ; it was only
and
Establishment already subsisting,
'`.e were not to have a man in any mode except that
already voted for the permanent establishment of the
Country, although this was to be considered as a
general plovision for. the permanent establishment
(4 tne"suhe
bevy.Countr The first question was, Shall this
tre oluntary or compulsory, or shall it be
a IttiXture of both ? Now the great use of a compul-
"Y. measure was, that it was more speedy and
side effeaual than any other ; but here came con-
erations of great importance, arising from the
situation of the Country. It was true,. that
Without despotic power, a State may have re-
co
to CW111)(141011 on its Subjetis for the general
it
; for a State, however free, must, have
power over which there is no contrail.- The power
01 the King of Prussia was not greater in his a.,.,
rtiniuns,
than the power of King, Lords and Coin.l in EntnOns
gland
. Nor was the power of the Turkish
not leg Empire, noro
4if the Emperor of-the Fretach—a
power
s than that of D..spotic Gnvernment—cer.
Tra.i.nly greater than the power of the Logipslature in
this Country. That the Legislature of this Country
:ewould , ever do what. these Potentates had done, was
ry true ; the power of the Legislature of this
--ouritry was equal to the power of any other State,
flit the exQrcise of that power was very different i