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London, England, 1867-03-23 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARMA BUNT

HOUSE OF LORDS.—LAST EVENING.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on tho woolsack at
five o'clock.

PETITIONS.

The Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented a peti-
tion against the sale of intoxicating liquors on the
Sunday.
THE REFORM QUESTION.

Lord STANHOPE said that as he understood that cer-
tain statements relative to the number of voters on the
Reform Bill had been submitted last night, and were to
be so again to-night, he thought that their lordships'
house ought to bo enabled to obtain the same advantage.
He would ask the noble lord at the head of the Govern-
ment to supply them with the same statements as those
which had been submitted to the House of Commons.
Lord DERBY stated that there would be no difficulty
in supplying their lordships' house with the same state-
ments that had been made in the other house. (Hear.)
THE IRISH CONSTABULARY. •

Lord LIFFORD gave notice that he should move rela-
tive to the Irish constabulary on Monday next.
THE CHURCHES IN THE COLONIES.

The Earl of HARROWBY presented a petition from the
bishop, clergy, and the laity of Sydney, a colony in Aus-
tralia, against any steps that might be contemplated for
the dissevering of the connection of the mother Church
from her daughters in Australia. A great deal of
discussion relative to this matter had been en-
tered into, but he (the noble earl) believed that
there was the greatest wish on the part of the members of
the colonial churches that there should be the existing
connection between the mother Church and the other
Churches in the colonies. He would suggest that the
question should be referred to a committee of their lord-
ships' house,, where the question might be uniformly dis-
cussed. (Hear, hear.)
rill Doke ,of ARGYLL was,ef opinion that, the same
position held here by the United Churches of England and
Ireland could not be maintained in the colonies. . .

Lord HARRO WBY only wished that the question might
be fairly brought before their lordships' house.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY said that in any
question where there was an appeal from a colonial
church they wore entitled to the protection of the
Crown of England. The colonial churches were
bound by a:strong feeling of affection, and one equally
strong one of interest to the mother Church. He, there-
fore, was in hope that the strongest connection would be
maintained between the mother Church and her daugh-
ters in the colonies.
The Earl of CARNARVON said that what he wished to
know was whether it was the object of the petition just
presented to pray that there should not be any alteration
in the consecration of bishops by the Metropolitan or
others. He could say that, as far as the bill introduced by
his right hon. predecessor was concerned, it had never
contemplated the slightest lessening of the connection
between the Mother Church and the colonial ones. Neither
ho nor any other Colonial Secretary would contemplate any-
thing of the sort. With regard to the Royal supremacy
in the colonies, there was, he believed, not ono point in
which it had been exercised except in the appointment of
bishops, which was a matter of patronage. The Royal supre-
macy had been reduced to a shadow in the very colony, Vic-
toria, from which he presented a pettion, and also in Canada.
We had created a great mistake. We had trained the
Colonial Church up as it were in great dependency, and
this had at last given way. Ho trusted, nevertheless, that
those bends of spiritual union which united them would
never give way. But it was quite true that through this
system you found that a mass of legislation had arisen,
which would be perplexing to many lawyers, if not utterly
incomprehensible to any lawyer. The only measure to
take was to sweep this whole system away.
Some discussion followed with regard to the position of
the colonial Church, and the Duke of Buckingham, on
behalf of the Government, promised that a measure should
be introduced upon the subject.
Tho Metropolitan Poor Bill passed through committee,
and shortly after seven o'clock their lordships adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS-LAST EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
THE SCOTCH REFORM BILL.
Sir R. ANSTRUTHER gale notice 'of his intention of
calling attention to the inconvenience of postponing the
introduction of the Scotch Reform Bill until after the
holidays•
THE REFORM BILL.

Mr. DENMAN gave notice of his intention in com-
mittee of moving sach alterations in clause 21, sec. 4, as
to confer the franchise upon women. (Loud laughter.)
METROPOLITAN IMPROVEMENT. BILL.

In reply to Alderman LAWRENCE,
Mr. AYRTON said the Metropolitan improvement Bill
was entirely in the hands of her Majesty's Government;
when they fixed a day for it, it would come on. Of course,
the notice would appear in the paper in the regular
course.
Alderman LAWRENCE said he should on Tuesday
next ask the precise day on which the bill would bo
brought forward.
TOTNES ELECTION COMMISSION.

Mr. MORISON gave notice of his intention of askingon
an early day whether any proceedings were to be taken
against Mr. Senior.
CLERKS IN CONVICT PRISONS.

In reply to Alderman Lusx,

Mr. HUNT said a petition similar to that transmitted
in 1865 had been received relative to an increase of salary
of the clerks so employed. The matter was under con-
sideration, and ho was asked whether a similar
request had been made from other departments. Ho
should have to answer in the affirmative, as nearly
the whole of the Civil service had made such a
request. It was exceedingly inconvenient that questions
of this nature should be put in that house, because there was
a duty to the public as well as to the clerks, and the in-
quiry increased the difficulty of keeping a proper control
over the public expenditure.
ROYAL BOUNTY FUND.

Sir J. SIMEON asked the Secretary to the Treasury
whether a grant had been made from the Royal Bounty
Fund to Mr. J. M. Hall, of Fisher-street, Carlisle; on what
ground and at whose recommendation such grant was
made; whether he was aware of the character and antece-
dents of Mr. Hall; and whether the money so granted had
been actually paid.
Mr. HUNT said such an application had boon made, Mr
Hall being represented as a literary person in distress. I
had, however, come to his knowledge that Mr. Hall was
not a deserving object, and therefore uo grant had been
made.
FLOGGING IN THE ARMY.
Mr. DARBY GRIFFITH asked the Secretary for War
whether he had made any official communication to his
Royal Highness the Field-Marshal Commanding-in-Chief
relative to the resolution lately passed by the house on the
subject of military flogging, and had invited his Royal
Highness's consideration of the subject.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said there had been communica-
tions with his Royal Highness the Commander-in-Chief
on the subject, but he (Sir J. Pakington) must reserve to
himself the right of selecting the proper time to make
known the nature of the communications.
THE REFORM BILL.
Mr. SHERIDAN put a question to the Chancellor of the
Exchequer with respect to the claims of West Bromwich
for representation in Parliament in preference to the
borough of Weduesbury, selected under the Government
Reform Bill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was
aware of the claims upon the attention of die hon
member. From his question it was to be presumed he
had not road the schedule of the Reform Bill, because if he
had he would have seen that the new constituency was to
be made up of the persons in West Bromwich as well as
Wednesbury.
THE FENIAN RIOTS.
• Mr. 'WHALLEY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland
whether it was the fact that the Rev. Mr. Magian,
Roman Catholic priest of Glenbegh, refused to be
sworn as a witness on the inquiry relative to the
affray in which Police-constable Duggan was shot,
stating as the ground for such refusal that when
ho met the Fenians in Glenbegh he was acting as a
priest, and that he did not know any of the parties, as he
put a handkerchief over his eyes, the said Mr. Maginn
being the person referred to by the Chief Secretary for
Ireland, on the 18th February, as having acted boldly and
loyally ; and further, that the Roman Catholic Bishop Mo-
riarty, also referred to by the Chief Secretary as having
" cursed" the Fenians, had expressed his entire approval of
- the conduct el the laid Mr. Magian in eo rellmi.ng to be

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worn. And whether any further steps bad been taken to
obtain the evidence of the said Mr. Maginn.
Lord NAAS said he was not aware that any particular
inquiry had taken place into the occurrences alluded to by
the hon. member. He had groat satisfaction in stating
that constable Duggan was recovering from the effect of
his wound, and, as he had not died, there had not been a.
coroner's inquest held on hirn (Laughter.)

Mr. WHALLEY asked whether 110 was to understand
that no inquiry into the disturbance, during which the
constable was shot, had taken place.

Lord NAAS replied that no particular inquiry had taken
pkice. Of course, there had been the usual informations.
THE REFORM BILL.

Captain WHITE asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether the statements made by him in the house, that it
was the intention of Government to increase the represen-
tation of Scotland, and also that "the improved represen-
tation of Scotland was not to be satisfied by the sacrifice
of English interests," were to be explained by an intention
on the part of her Majesty's Government to diminish the
number of Irish representatives ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was
not the intention of the Government to make any increase
in the representation for Scotland at the expense of Ire-
land.

Captain SPEIRS asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
if he would inform the house as to the source from which
he intended to provide tho promised additional representa-
tion for Scotland ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought it
unreasonable on the part of the Scotch members to call
upon him to state from what source the increase was to
come from; ho would, however, beg of hon. members to
have confidence in the bounty of the Orovrn and the wis-
dom of Parliament. (Loud laughter.)
Mr. WARNER asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether ho could state the number of £lO voters in
boroughs and counties that would come in under the pro-
vision of the Government measure for the amendment of
the representation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply,
said if the hon. member would put his motion on the paper
he would answer it, but it was exceedingly inconvenient
to have interrogations put without notice upon important
matters.
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