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London, England, 1867-09-02 00:00:00

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single gentleman in that hall would charge him
with having given a single vote in contravention of
the Liberal principles he professed when elected.
Nor did he remember a single vote that he would
not again record if the occasion could again recur.
Referring to the question of Reform, the hon. mem-
ber said that it was in the year 1859 it was first
brought more prominently before the public mind,
and at that time he sketched out a bill—a crude one
it might have been—which he thought would have
met the requirements of the times, and could have
been carried by both the Tories and Whigs. How-
ever, a bill was then introduced by Lord Derby, and
he (Mr. Dillwyn) then did his best to throw out
that bill, not, however, because it was brought in
by the Tories, but because that bill would not give
effect to those principles which he had always advo-
cated, and because he did not believe it could have
been made a good bill even in committee. Many
sound politicians, however, were now of opinion
that it was unwise to have thrown out that bill, be-
lieving it would have settled the question, and
that the subsequent agitation would have been pre-
vented. That, however, was not his opinion in
reference to that bill. Last year, however, another
Reform Bill had been brought forward, and that
with all the strength of a Liberal Government. He
had never approved that bill, and that because it
had the same vice as some of its predecessors—it
excluded " class" so arbitrarily that he saw at once
a very strong agitation would spring up throughout
the country. his opinion was that household suf-
frage and a very liberal lodger franchise should be
the basis of any Reform Bill that had been offered
that year by the Tories, although they at first offered
a very different bill from what they afterwards ac-
ceded to. A great meeting of Liberals then took
place at Mr. Gladstone's house, and they were then
told that the Tories were the proper parties to pass
the bill. They had the reins of the coach in band,
and let them drive through ; and it was also said
that with the assistance of the Liberals they ought
to get a good bill out of what was offered them. He
(Mr. Dillwyn) quite agreed with that line of policy,
and he returned to the house determined to do what
had been agreed upon. But in the middle of the
Session the leaders of the Liberal party, for reasons
best known to themselves, altered their line of
policy, and they were then told that the Tories were
to be turned out of office. He and some other
Liberals did not see things in that light—they
thought the Liberal party was making a great
mistake—that their policy savoured too much of
the old Whig game of bringing up an important
question to a certain point, and when there was
a fair chance of getting the measure passed, of
shelving it and passing it over to the country for
another year. He firmly believed that would have
been the ease with the present question of Re-
form if he and some few other Liberal members had
not acted as they had. Then occurred the cele-
brated " tea-room" scene. He attended that party
in the tea-zmn, and proud was he of having done
so. (HIV) That small party saw what way to
be done. They at once said, " This question of
Reform must not be played with any longer—we
will not have this, old Whig game of throwing back
a bill just as it comes to a point." They believed
the bill could be so amended as to meet the require-
ments of the country, and
_they determined to try
what they could do with it and not to throw out the
bill simply because the Tories had brought it in.
He firmly believed now that had it not been for the
" tea-room party" the bill would have been thrown
out. If such had been the case the Liberals could
not have pasted such a bill as they now had, had
they been united as one man, and that because it
would not have passed the House of Lords. They
might, perhaps, have done so after years of agita-
tion—of setting class against class—engendering
ill-feeling and leaving many most important ques-
tions in abeyance. Such being the case, he and
those members who acted together on that occasion
felt they could not—they dare not—throw back the
bill which had been offered them, and it was in con-
sequence of the determined action which they then
took that the Reform Bill would soon become the
law of the land. Then, again, he had been a good
deal blamed with respect to a certain memorandum
which had passed between Colonel Taylor and him-
self. He could not see how he could be blamed for
that. Had he not acted as he did, he would have
been a fool.. It should be remembered he was
going against the people with whom he usually
voted, and therefore he felt there was a great re-
sponsibility resting upon him. He happened to be
the mouth-piece of that small tea-room party, and
he therefore wanted to know, before he gave his
support to the Tory Government, whether they
would consider fairly those points which he and the
party considered to be essential to make the bill
a good one. He determined to ascertain
this from Colonel Taylor, and what was more,
he wanted it in black and white. He did receive
from Col. Taylor, in black and white, a distinct
and satisfactory assurance that certain leading mem-
bers of the Government (whom,
however, he would
not name) were iu favour of the amendments which
they thought necessary to mould the bill into a good
one. He had shown that memorandum to several
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appreciated him as a finaucer, than he (Mr Dillwyn)
and yet he could hardly regard Mr. Gladstone as
the leader of the Liberal party. If a man was to be
the leader of a party he should be so in reality anal
truth, whereas Mr. Gladstone had to be coaxed
along, and on some occasions had voted against
measures which were of the greatest importance to
all true Liberals and advocates of civil and religious
liberty. Mr. Dillwyn then concluded by again re-
marking that he was not a party man in any re-
spect, but voted for those measures which he con-
scientiously believed advanced the true interests of
the country, let those measures come from which-
ever side they may
A vote of thanks to the hon. member for his at-
tendance and explanation that night brought the
proceedings t0...A close.

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_NEWSPAPER
Mr. L. L. L. Diilwyn and his C'` ti
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Mr. Diliwyn addressed a public m
burgesses of Swansea in the Guildhall, Sw*sea,
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Friday evening. The hall was densely crowde
The Mayor having briefly opened the proceedings,
Mr, DILLWYN expressed the satisfaction it afforded
him to meet his constituents at the earliest possible
period after the labours of the session, more especi-
ally as he wns quite aware that some of his votes
upon the great question of the session—Reform—
had not given satisfaction to his constituents, and
had been somewhat severely animadverted upon in
other quarters. Ile had been elected to represent
Swansea and its contributory boroughs in the year
1835, and had therefore sat (luting 13 sessions, and
up to the past session he had every reason to believe -
his votes upon all the great questions of the day
had given entire satisfaction to the great wajority
of the burgesses. Ile had never gone to Parliatrr.nt
or acted in Parliament either as a nu re deleg,tte or
a party man. He claimed perfect liberty of action,
he supported measures, not men, and was quite
agreeable to accept any good measure from any
party by whom it was offered. During the 13
sessions he had sat in the house, be did not think a

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