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and liberality with which the question was being treatedby

the commissioners of tho French Government. (Hear,

hear.) They were as anxiou4 as our commissioners that
there should be a great trade between the two countries—
(hear)—and when a government in amity with our Govern-
ment was endeavouring frankly and fairly to open the doors
of the two countries t 6 extended trade, he was neither a

statesman nor a patriot who endeavoured to defame and de-
preciate the treaty in the eyes of the people, and thereby, if
possible, to prevent its success. (Cheers.) Some said that
the budget was novel and gigantic in its proportions. The
only novelty was the abolition of the paper duty ; the tariff
was exactly the tariff which hon. gentlemen 110 been re-
commending since they were converted. (Chest a.) After
having acknowledged certain great principles and witnessed
their beneficent action through the country, was it manly,

generous, or becoming in hon. gentlemen opposite to. oppose
the further extension of those principles which the whole
ountry admitted to be good ? (Hear, hear.) They boasted
of ete freedom of commerce. The commerce of this country
had doubled since he had had a seat in that house. (Hear.)
Ho had never thought such an extension possible.
By attackiin, through the Chancellor of the Exchequer*
, principles so ,91.cellent, and which had been proved to be sa

beneficial to the country, hon. gentlemen did not increase
their reputation ox influence with those whom they pro-
fessed to represent. There was not a cottage in the king-
dom where the words..of the Chancellor of the Exchequer

did not give hope, and where his measure—defended by an
eloquence which few coLtl.l equal, and a logic which none
Tad comfort upon the humble
could contest—did not syt
board, and give consolatio.'l to the toiling millions of this
kingdom. (Cheers.) Havink,' these views, and feeling them
from his heart, he asked hon.. gentlemen to put aside this
constant contest on financial duinges. He appealed to the
experience of the past and the present condition of the
country, and asked them to interl
,ose n® further obstacles
to those principles of good.legislatiot 1. He grieved that the
noble viscount had not shown more .courage, and that the
house had not manifested greater at:lf-respect (Hear.)
He believed that this might be regarded As the first occa-
sion for 500 years on which the Commons o.f England abased
themselves before the irresponsible and hereslita.7 chamber.
(Hear.) He at least and those who acted with h.ttlt woula
be clear from any participation in this ; they would be free
froin'the shame which he believed posterity would attac'll to
the chief actors in this proceeding. (Hear.) The house wou id
recollect that he protested against the order of referencer
because he thought it was calculated to evade rather than to
promote their investigation. But being on the committee,
he sat and watched on the committee with an earnest sin-
cerity on the part of the :ffouse of Commons. He felt it an
honour to sit in that house up to the present time. He
hoped that hereafter the character of the house might net
be impaired by the course aboutto be taken. He had endea-
voured to show to his countrymen the almost treason which
was about to be committed against them. (Hear, hear.)
He had refused to dishonour the names and the memories
of such men as Coke and Seldon, and Glanvil and Pym ;
and if he was defeated in this struggle he should have this
consolation, that he had done all he could to maintain the
honour of the house, and not to sacrifice in any degree the
sacred interests which his constituents had committed to
his care. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. MELLoit and Mr. WHALLEY both moved the at
journment of the debate amidst loud cries for a division.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped the house would come to *
division that night. (Hear.) The question had been fully
discussed, and he believed the house was prepared to come
to a decision upon it. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BRIGHT suggested that the first resolution might
be agreed to, and any further discussion taiten on the se-
cond and third resolutions. (" Hear, hear," and "No,
no.")
Mr. DISR ii-ELI said the whole of the resolutions had
been discussed together, and he thought the; house had
better decide upon them as a whole.
After a few words from Mr. CONINGIIASI, 'which were
inaudible,
Mr. MELLOR said that ho should withdraw his motion
in respect to the first resolution, but he should wish to offer
a few remarks on the second. (Cries of " Oh, oh," and
" Divide.") .
The SPEAKER proceeded to read the first resolution.
Mr. WHALLEY moved the adjournment of the debate.
(Tremendous uproar.)
Sir C. NAPIER observed that that was the third time
the hon. member had attempted to obtain a hearing.
The SPEAKER pronounced the first resolution to have
been agreed to, and proceeded to read the second. ,
Mn MELLOR said that he belie ved the second resolu-
tion expressed more than its framers had intended, and
more than the precedents justified. He proposed to add the
words " relating, among other matters, to taxation." (Loud
cries of " Move.") The hon. member moved the insertion.
of the words.
Lord PALMERSTON objected to the insertion of these
words. The words of the resolution, however severely
they might be criticised, had been carefully considered, and
fully expressed the meaning they were intended to convey.
The words " bills of several descriptions" were sufficiently
comprehensive ; the meaning being, that bills had been re-
jected relating to taxation. He thought the words proposed
totally unnecessary.
Mr. BRIGHT said that as the resolution stood it would
beat the interpretation that bills like the Paper Duties Re-
peal Bill had been previously rejected. As that was noto-
riously not the case, and as some degenerate committee
might 50 years hence be using this resolution as a precedent,
perhaps it would be better to take until Monday to consider
the amendment. (Renewed uproar.)
Mr. WHALLEY moved that this debate be adjourned,
amidst great confusion and cries of "Hear; hear," and
" Divide."
The SPEAKER put the question, when a few voices
answering, " Aye," the house divided, and the numbers

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were—
For the adjournment 36
Against it
Majority.. —397
The announcement was received with loud applause and
much laughter.
Mr. MELLOR'S amendment was then put, to insert,
after the word " relating," in resolution 2, the words,
"against other mattets."
The house divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment
Against it
Majority —3o3
The second resolution was then agreed to.
On the third resolution being proposed,
Lord FERMOY hoped the house would adjourn, and
give time to consider the question. (Oh, oh.) He moved
that the debate be adjourned.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped the noble lord would not
persevere with his motion, inasmuch as there was a great
deal of public business for next week, and it would be very
inconvenient to adjourn the debate.
After a few words from Mr. SCULLY,
The amendment was negatived without a division, and
the resolution agreed to.
The Local Taxation Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The Indemnity Bill went through committee.
MAYNOOTH COLLEGE.
After a short discussion, the house went into committee.
Mr. CARDWELL then moved a resolution on which to
found a bill for the purpose of providing funds to keep a
Royal College of Maynooth in repair. The measure he pro-
posed was in conformity with the irecommendation of the
committee, the majority of which were protestants,
that the repairs should be paid for out of the funds already
in the hands of the trustees for the general purposes of the
college.
Mr. NEWDEGATE defended the conduct of the house
of Commons in refusing to provide funds for the sustenta-
tion of the edifice.
Mr. DEEDES moved that the Chairman report progress,
but the resolution was eventually agreed to,
SELLING AND HAWKING GOODS ON SUNDAY
BILL.
This bill was withdrawn.
METROPOLITAN BUILDINGS ACT (1855)
AMENDMENT BILL.
The report of amendments was agreed to.
BURIAL GROUNDS (IRELAND) ACT (1856)
BILL.
AMENDMENT
The report of amendments was agreed to.
ADMIRALTY COURT jtj SDICTION (No. 2)BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
TRAM W.A.YS (IRELAND) BILL.
In committee on this bill.
Sir E. GROGAN proposed the exemption of Dublin
f-om its operation.
The committee divided—
For the m0ti0n............
Against it ................
This result was received with loud laughter.
Sir E. GROGAN then moved that the committee report
progress ; but this proposal was negatived without a divi-
sion, and the clauses of the bill were agreed to.
BLEACHING AND DYEING WORKS BILL.
The report of amendments was agreed to.
The house rose at 3 o'clock.