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ed by several Members, brought tip from the Corr..
mons, first, a liiil " for the Suppression of Rebel-
lion in Ireland, and for the proreaion of the .per-
sons and properties' of His M.ijesty'S faithful Sub.
jeds therein ; to continue in lurce until six wotlks
after the commencement of the ensuing Session of
Parliament :" and secondly, a Bill " to empower
the Lord Lieutenant or other Chief Governor, or
Governors for the time being, to apprehend and de-
tain such persons as they shall suspeit ofconspiring
against
•His Majesty's Person and Government," &c.
Lord 119VART then presented a copy of the. Pro.
clamation of the Lord Lieutenant, and the Orders
of the Council of Ireland, relative to.the late In.
surredion, the murder of Lord Viscount KILWAR.
DEN, &c. ece. which was ordered to lie on the
Table.
Lord FTOBAXT immediately moved for the first
readings of the Bills recently brought up from the
,commons, which accordingly took place.
His Lordship then proposed a Motion, the sub_
.stance; of which was, that it Was essential to the
safety of the Country that the Standing Orders of
the House, which prohibit the p;i3sing of Bills
through more than one certain stage in the same
day, be suspended with ,resped to the two Bills in
question.

On the occasion of putting this Motion, the Loin'
CHANc ett,oe quitted the Woulsack,and in a speech
of considerable length delivered with much animation
and effea, (but which oar re'strided limits 'pre.
elude us from detailing),,expatiated upon the
portance of a due oltiery mee of the Orders of the
Haute, which shdruld never be relaxed but in cases
of great and critical importance. The Noble and.
Learned Lord took occls.ion to advtrt to the late
unhappy transalions in Ireland—the baneful effeds
of certain political principles, and the transcendarit
blessings derivable under the British Constitution,:
which would eventually enable • this Country to
overcome all her adversaries, and to continue. nut
only the greatest, but the happiest Country in the
world.

lie Earl of ROSLIN praised the excellent and animated
address of his•raohle and learned Friend, and,after c4patiat..
ing upon the nature of 'their Lordships' Standing Orders,
expressed his opinion that they ought to he relaxed on great
and important occasions, such as the present,
The Standing Orders in question were then ordered:to be,
suspended,
.upon which the two Bills wcre,.upun the Mo.
tions of Lord HosAar, respectively read a second time-,
Committed— Reported, and read a third tint:, and pa.sed ;
and finally, Messages were ordered to be Acut to the. Cum,
mons, acquainting them than Theirlordshipa had agreed to
the Billy, without any amenctMent.
A! a quarter before t c,.thc !louse adjourned till to-morrow,
when it is proposed the Bills shall receive the Royal Assent,
by Commission.

HOUSE OF COMMONS,
TITURNDAY, Jut.le zB.
Tit r. Vote of Qredit Bill, the Exchequer .13M& Bill, and
the Quassia Duty Bill, were read a second time, and corn.
-•
mitted for to‘morrow.
The Customs Regulation Bill was read a secon.i time, and
committed fur to-morrow.
The Woollen Mena:tamers Bill was read 4 second time:
tile: House then went into a Committee on the Bill, After
which the Report WAS brought up, and the Bill tattered to be
rend a third tune to-morroW•
1,0111 CA KT t L R E &Oil moved for leave to bring In null to
exempt Persons from Serving in the Militia, who were
serving by Substitute in the Army of Reserve. 1. cave was
granted, 'and the Bill was .brought and read a first time,
and ordered to he Mad a second time to-morrow.
Mr. ALMA x us tobrought up .4: Repoft of a Corillidlee,
appointed to confider of certain goods imported into Luni4on
in Neutral Ships.
The House went into a Committee to consider the draw-
back on Sugar ; after a taw obsarvatimis from Mr, V n erst r.
TART on the nature of thedraw,back made, on Sugar, the
,resolutions-were read, agreed to, mat the report was ordered
to be brought up to-morrow.
The A uttioneers! 1101.,wiissreatt a first time, and ordered to
be read a second time to-morrow,
A • Bill was read a first. time to regulate the duties on Tea
imported into Irelemt, and ordered to he read ii second time
to. morrow.
Lord IlAw twain& v moved, that the Orders made for.
taking into consideration several Petitions relative to.t.;oii-
• tested. E ledionst 111.40$tisti ' be postponed to next !rassion,
and that the Petitions d i
o stand n the same order tOr tanisule-
ration as originally taxed,—Agreed to.
The East India Shipping Val was read R. third tone. and
passed.
%Ir. AL ex ens* brought up .a Deport of the Scotch
Army Bill, which was re 4, anti the thll ordered to be en.
grossed.
The loan MAYO* of Loutrou presented a .Petition
against the Bill which
,a duty on all Ships passing
the Bell Rock Light.house. I ho Petition was read, and ie.
fermi to a Committee. ' • .
IRELAND.
MESSAGE FROM' TIN KING.
The CHANCELLOR of the Elfbilis:QUEß,tie.
livered the following Mesiagd from His Mettts.TY :
CRORCA R.
•His MAJ sty reels the deepest regret in sequaitia ; the
'Toes(' of commons, that a treasonable, and rebellious spirit.
of Insurreelion has manifested itself in Ireland, With has
been marked by circumstances of peculiar atrocity in the
City of'.l)ublin.
MAJ XS TY relies with perfe.a confidence on the wis.
Aloni of his Parliament, that such measures will be forthwith
. adopted as arc best calculated to afibrd protection and Security
to His Majesty's Loyal-Subjeets in that part of the United
Kingdom, and to restore and preserve general tranquillity.
G.
. , .
Me CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER..
that It was impossible to entertain a doubt
but that there must be in that House,a general par.
t icipat ion in those feelings which must have actuated
His 'Majesty in making that communication whizii
they had just !lentil read from. the Chair. There
was also, he was persuaded. in:that House a diSPoSi_
lion and deterniinationitrialy and fully to repay
the conliJence which His Majesty'llad reposed in
thern, by .adopting such peabures as might be the,
best suited to the eircainstarices of'tlia present con.
juodtire. It certainly was not to be supposed That
Gontarnin3rion so mAignant 'in its nature, and so
extensive in its consequences as that which pro.
Aitsecil the • late Rebeliton,, should b completely
eradicated in the.short' time ;which had passed
since that utifortunate .evt.ont. But it wa, not
irrational to indulge,. the' hope that the recollec-
tion of the calamities 'that' attended that dreadful
perioci that aitexperience of the blessing's which
they ,hini enjoyed under that kt,' Ne measure by which
the interests of the, two Countries were inseparably
united ; that the proof which was now exhibiting
to the world - the result of nil those. wild and
praaicable schemes of reformation and revolution,'
had ended -in the establidiment of the mowcom.
Pieta military despotism that ever existed-4 t was
not, he said,, irrational to indulge the hope that all
• these consideration.% would' have operated upon the
feelings,. upon the graituti6.ol those whOlad'been„

Misled in Ireland,: and would have induced them to
bbeeeconti,netogtasovdear3n,d loyal subjeds.
gether); great degree (eerltsithienry hopes
rt ahlatov
disappointed-. It was said by a great and
eminent men, that lie pitied the loyalty of that
man who could. attempt to Aggravate the clime of
treason by
treason, rebetillleionu,seifof any
tly:we ►
epithets.tecapiblepoii'l2YvalaigY:
cgur amvsat
at inoene;
of the i
must b etrseeint lt moment.
y ag
gr:tv t ou 4e a
tel by cite sir_
subject of everlasting regret and shame, that at a
moment
‘yewhenre seed l
! efr y oft
il,e tthe People of this
Country
the,pool,
or
Ireland
were united
forne defence of
fhthseainrlFe potititrti
try and their Liberty ; when a large majority of
Ipooysael,tayt h as
ht
orui su
ld bceh
ma
sentt7d. dii)syaffae:ytiopan r atm t
of
the
People of -Ireland. It, must also be a subject of
tilepneve.roectigrlertr, that
eti:toa u
give
isvecl: a momentncourag any
ziwi event
encouragement
t toaiEslnetolunlyd
such as we had to contend against. He should not
at present go into the particulars of the informa-
tion that had been received: after this Message had
been disposed of, he should have the honour of
laying before the House the information co
in the Proclamation which had been published
in Ireland. Bet he could not conceive that any
particular information could be necessary to in-
duce the House to agree with the Address he
should, propose. To the principal, circumstance
referred to in the Address, he would not refer ; it
was one at the contemplation of which the mind
sickened.; it was one that must almost make a man
feel shame fur his Country. Of the charaLter of the
Noble
,P ol(
erson thus inhumanly murdered, he. wo'
nisi Say' -.word ; his eulogy would be best food in
, the regret of the whole body of: the loyal and vir-
tuous. People of Ireland. In the hope therefore that
there would not he any difference of (Onion upon
the subjed, he would now ceeeltele with moving,
that an humble.A!dress he i•reseristeloi. His Maj::s-:
ty, to assure His Majesty that"• it was withethe
Strongest feelings of'. regret and indignation that
they had learnt that a ,spirit nf. Insurrection had •
broken out in Ireland. 'The Address then proceeds
to echo the words of the Message, and concludes
with assuring Ilk Majesty of the readiness. ef the
House of Commons ao,adOpt such measures as may
be the best calculated to afford proteCtion to the
Loyal Subjeds of that part of the United Kingdom.
Wheu, this Motitin., was disposed of he should pre- _
• pose sonic measures which appeared to be necessary
under. the present circumstances.
. .
Mr. W NDHAM saiit,'he:ritti not rise with an
intention of gieing hie negative .to
,the Address,
but to make some .observations 'upon the form of-
their proceedings. There had-been a practice _which
had lately licen iotroduced, and Which if it was tacit
checked might become common,. though it.wae coin-
pletely inconsistent with: the, usual mode of pro.
ceetling in that House, 'The' praelice to whict he
alluded, was that of taking .His Majesty's Message
into consideration, and voting are Address upon it
on the same day that it was deliVered. The most ~
usual,modeof.proceedina its thcese cases :was, after
the Message had been delivered, to mope that it
should be taken into consideration the text,day.--e,
This practice was in the first.place, mote reepedful
to the Crown, because it shewed the sense enter-
tained by the House of the importance of the mea-
sure recommended by the Crown. With respeCt to
the terms of the Address now proposed, there could
be no doubt that the House would assent to it as far
aansiot!ittb:iitegtso taa:tb.creui
attttittyliteetailt:farther—wa blouse P Isfl'ietwitileiltleoriniiiteyrcogitnoteoasuitgliioeht:l
'in: these eases to be decided po wher a
sgupri
eneor ar answer
Majesty,ehould beeer;raeitnulrynuetdhnethat was;heyeth would,
be• voted on, the same day as meAsssaldgree,ssmcai-g4l:er.
the
there could not , possibly be any objeftion to But there were many other things which might be,'
.`contained, in a Messagees-certainly with the in-
limitation before the House, they could return no
answer but that which , was '.now proposed. ' "thc:
Right 1100, Gentleman however had said that he
would giv`e::no further informetion, because the:
informed at present to
!-tonic were Mfficiently
• 41e, thjf Mar ess ; but in hie opinion this was,
by no means sufficient informetino ;he thouglit
that a great deal
,more ought to he said upon the,
subje3. • When it appeared that the,Capital of that.
part of the United Kingdom was nearly surprised
and: taken possession of by ~rebellious force,' were
there no que,,,,iona, was there no informatioe
neCes-
sary,as ra. the contlud which Government had adopt-.
ed I Whet), Government appeared .so ignorant, or
so supinee that the-Capital of .e kingdom was. with=
in'an ace of being. wrested from them, did it tend to
stake the confidence which the I looSe.,had'placed izi
Mieisters; if, indeed, any body could place. any-
' confidence in them. Bu: were not these ell points
upon which the House ought. to' receive foil' in.
formation before they gave a final answer upon this,
sehjed I,- If, however, the answer was toetelreote.
fined to this Adth4Sse--if it was nut intended to
vote any• thing inure, he should not oppose it, be-
caltse theft could he no ohjedion'tOtheir testifying
their .readiness tee support His Majesty: .Bet be.
fore he proceeded any further,,. should require
further information.. The. Right Hon. Gentleman
had held out many flattering. hopes about this Re:, bellioN'atul said he heliceed it was confined within
a narrow, .compass : lie sincerely 'hoped -it was .sce.
The Right Hon, Gentleman' stated that it was im-
possible, after a Rebellino of Stich magnitude, when
the minds of men. had been so violently irritated,
that they should in so ithort a time have become perms
le.dly loyal'ansf tranquil. He entirely.. agreed with
the Right Hon. Gentleman ie that opinion, but he
wished the light Hon. Gentleman had adopted that
opinion a little sooner. „The HOuse had heard 'from
several Irish c;entletnen, who had Upon several'oC.
cations delivered their opinions that Ireland was in e
perkee state of tranquillity ; lie was extremely sorq,
to find that they were misteken. But giving them
Credit for All the ad:vantages of local infortultio„,
the thing appeared to hitn quite impessible that in
so short'a time the minds of Men should be completely
trartquillized, and. that ethey should be converted
at once-from rebellion to loyalty.; The Right lion.
Gentleman had now told the House, shat he always
was-of that opinion rif he was, then .bow did it
hai,pert that Government were so completely
ptepared as they appeared to be a 204

How did it happen that the Capital of Irelati I
was within an ace of being taken t-4,(Soase Geode•
men on the opposite Bench laughed)—He said, that
if any body was to he laughed at,- it WAS, not him,
hut Ministers, who had been taken so unprepared ;
but this was a subject upon which he did nor think
laughter ought to be indulged at all. He had, al«
ready said, he had no objection to the terms of the
Address, but he really thought a+ hours delay ought
.to intcr.vcnsbefore they answered-the Message. it
was the praftice with Ministers to protraetmeatotes
till 'it was too late, and then to 'bring them'fut-
ward with precipitation. This was the caseVith
the fortification of London,. which was now to .he
brought forward in such a hurry, that Ministe"s
dhweolcluiltcash:iwntlie,tay
would be:
hpteoro..
ddbuied:intivaieltt
would' hardly give time. to chute the ground on -
and he wished that, in this instance tihneey°
He
ey
coo ndeel adyedofwith
*
of
hereto the usual forms and practice •of the House:
I. he, however, should not oppose' the agreeing to
the Address pro farina.
Mr. SH.ERIDAN saidi be did not rise to ,
to the Address pro forma, but to support it with • 1
ns
hvneunlide nacgel!
all his heart. He would not now reply to the Ob•g
nervations of the Right Hon. Gentleman :who sPc4id
last; he would not do any thing which he was sure 1
. must be so repugnant to the feelings of-the House.
He had used the word observations, for argument of
ohjedio:t to the Address, the Right Hon. Genii° •
mar. had urged none. If anything from that Right
Hon.:Gentleman could have surprised himvit wasp)
find that upon such an occasion,• at such a nooneot
the present, one man in the House could be found to
H oppose this Addicts. Tlic Hon. Gentleman had .
talkod of forms*WaS this a time—was this a '
subject upon which they ought to talk' of forms?
It was tindOubtedly true that the genii's! 13134ticc
h.ut been that the Address should not be voted Ott
the saute day
-that the MesiAge
,was'deliverctl ; but'
surely no man could seriously contend that on such
an occasion forms must not give way. For his
part he liked the measurc'the Reiter ttecause it wa:
unusual ; because it would slim '.the-teelino ang,
spirit of , the House,: and their ttle termitiat ion to
adopt the most prompt and .vigc;:rOits measures to
proteel.the Jaya' part of the inhabitavasof Ireland.
It N tt6 'molt 'singular ,that at stleh w'brisis. as the
present the .Right "Honourable.. Oentieman should
wish for delay, merely. fora point I)f..forth.
man in the.tiouse:exclaimed .int4e
.Ipudly than he
slid, 'lf be -thougitr..an hour was lostxn occusioos
that he thought urgent, and sorely no occasion could
be more -urgent: than the Ipiesent.' tie begged to
-ask, What efeca would it have 16.7ireland if IV
I-louse should, 'alter iectivitig'stith a Messages /sr'
mediately adjourn to: the nett day,' when thousands
of people were anxiously looking in that Count)'
to .1-tte-rmannerio which this'subjed would he takitn
• -tip by -4 he --Legislature of:the-United „Kingdom;
what would they say if they found that the HotPe
onietly.adjourned for zchours ? The Right Hon.
Gentleman wished. for an oppiirtunity,of investigilt4
ing this. subjed, and ..making proper, inquirici,
Let him, it he pleased, take fifty opportunitieti
of examining into the Coriduet Of .Ministersr
but let lion not oppose the reply which it was pro..
'posed to send to His Majesty upon thio.,l,Fastogi
The Right Hun. Gentleman, who had oeverearsfaslt.
suffered any opportBnity to escape him of, making
an attack upon His Majesty's Ministers, now rew
proached them with, neglecting the Loyal People of
Ireland. He stated that the Capital was within ati •
ace of being takeo ; he wished to know, where time
• Right Hon. Geptleman got ,that information ?
litveti and trusted that nothing of the,kind was the
• case. But even if it was, the. Right Hon. Gentltl.
man must be aware that he was. communicating th!.
most discouraging intelligence to the loyal -People"'
Could any thing tend more strongly ID
• , encourage
.Sedition anti Treason, than to tell ,"
disaifeaed in Ireland, rhai_such was tfiefr number'
and power, than they were within an ace of inking
possession of, the Capital of Ireland ? Let theltigls'
Hon. Gentleman,,,tit a .prOpe time, ,Call for
information he'pleased,- but he hoped that at-Pr`fr
.s'ent the nouse would..oithritit-further delay, sa9e.
.to•the iVlotion.] , •
Ivlr. W I ?.1.0 !Wit and ERMAN severally
• egAittlea. .
• ,
. Mr.: UTC HINSON stud, her ise open, 41;9 61,%;
.cation jo express his sentiment'''. with fee
th
•
lings.Of "
••• • '
. Inost deep .regret., tVas something.lll e
•i eireirmstanee which hattbeen.communicated to. the
..which, struck. !tiro 'With the :gtebtestitottot!
made himotlmost atraid to avow himselr,a naciv
that -oountry, lest Gentlemen should rush truect
:that' Seats to ovoid him. *But as lie would lA'
.11ve way, in point of. attachMeot 'the. Cmistnit;
tion and loyalty 'to,. his 'Sovereign, to "/
-that 'House, or in the County '-lie rose ,to taY'"-rs
dO
he: ave 'this Address his' Most eordial anti. strerolo •
support.. He coitus not help however exores,s-"i,
most "o'4" hope that,dieloyol„, part of the part
shy to which he belon ed would
that
co,r1;13:::11
tnoireolt of his exisience, it was his most firm" ,
tore woo ( btl
great rebgt,t) from Ireland.. He entirely conoir
with '.he GeOrlenzan (Mr, Stitt I 001 N) t
irnPr''PrietY of deferring the Addres, to another. day,
it woui'i h ita .eOhe condof 'timid 'and irresolute 1ne14.4
;tt tt niornent whin. they might' to be anxious to 511,iet
their, zeal in support. of 'their Sovereign ao4
Consol ur ion of the Country. lie hoped rheY
. distinctly mark their determination to OIPP'Ito
,i)flojesty,.but. that at the Same time they. svoli,llo,
orutlent and
hutna.ne' in their measures. r -the
ever might he his feelings with regard to
or
general- measotes adopted in Ir.:land,
errors he might be able to point out, ha' the
anxious he .might be to 'call the attenti,Ol ••1) any
1•100 Se. to the affairs of Irehind, 'with which,instin
Members appeared to be wholly onacquaint.e7theie
Ile would out take this moment to urge any t oje
topi.F,.i• was not fit to redress grievances in.
potnt of the bayonet. ,He would he tile last o'.o"Est
the world• to throw any impediment in the ‘v.ir_to
this Address ! he should therefore give his hes'
assent to the Motion. Tit, O.'
,L"'d IidirKE,STURY said, lie rea' 'but he
ash to detain thellouse for one mototot:__. fait
c''''re"ed that some of the observations wa'
Ati)
whateevet
from the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mt. WIND