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London, England, 1858-03-11 00:00:00

time in Nottingham. My husband resided in London.
When I came to London I resided in Bateman's Build.
info.
Mr. Sleigh—l do not think that the present witness
can be examined any farther. She is the wife of one
of the conspirators, and as such she was not compelled
to answer any more questions.
Mr. Bodkin—No ; not if her evidence tended to
criminate her husband. The objection of my learned
friend has been anticipated, and a pardon for Rudio, in
England, is therefore being prepared by the Attorney-
General, under the Great Seal of England, which would
restore the competency of the witness.
Mr. Sleigh—l an not prepared to admit this. I shall
not object to the court proceeding as this is not a fi❑al

court.
The examination was then proceeded with. While
living in Bateman's-buildings we were very badly off.
Whilst we were in a very distressed state the prisoner
Barnard came to our lodgings a short time after Christ
Las, and, having made some inquiries, gave us ten
shillings. He shortly afterwards called again,
and finally it was arranged that whenever
Bernard called he would ring the bell twice,
and then my husband was to go down. He never told
me his name. One occasion, after the bell had rung
twice, my husband brought up six shillings.
Mr. Sleigh again objected to the examination of this
witness.
Mr. Jardine—l think the examination ought to pro-
ceed. I will see that nothing is done to the prejudice of
the husband.
Examination continued—On one occasion Bernard
gave me half a sovreeign. He asked why we did
nut come to him if we wanted money. He told me
he would find a situation for my husband. He also
said he would find him clothing, and then he asked if we
had got a carpet-bag. I told him we had not, and he
then asked if we had a box. I pointed to my husband's
clothes-box, but he said it was too large, and that he
would get a bag. About half-an-hour after B..rnard had
left my husband came home. I showed him the
half sovereign, and told him what had happened.
Bernard came again the same week, in the night time,
as usual. The bell rung twice, and my husband went
down stairs. I saw it was Barnard from the

window. On the Friday, as my husband left
London on the Saturday, the prisoner came ;
my husband was out. I saw him come up into
the room. He gave me half-a-sovereign to get my
husband's clothes out of pawn. I did as he directed,
and when I returned I found that my husband bad re-
turned and the prisoner had left. In about an hour
after I returned fromthe pawnbroker's the prisoner called
again, and on coming into the room he said to my husband,
" Now, you go away in the morning." They spoke in
French. I understand Italian, but not French. The
prisoner wrote several notes, but I can't say what they
were about. He gave me his address, and told me to
go to the Cafe Suisse, in Tichbourne-street, when I
wanted anything. My husband went out, and re-
turned with a carpet-bag. Before the prisoner
came, 1 know my husband had no money, but after he
left I saw some French money laying on the table. It
looked like one of our half sovereings and a
crown. He said I was to have 12e. a week during
my husband's absence. It was to be sent
every Monday. My husband left London in the
morning. The prisoner never came again. My husband
took his passport with him. Bernard said he had
been all over London one day, but could not get it.
He, however, brought it the following day. I recollect
the name of Da Silva being mentioned. I did not
know where my husband was going, but I thought it was
Paris, and that he was going to some house
there, numbered 277. I heard Mr. Bernard say when
he got there he would find somebody he knew. Prisoner
said this in Italian. On the Tuesday, as my husband
left on the Friday, I went to the Cafe Suisse to ascertain
the reason the 12s. had not arrived. I did not see
the prisoner there, but the following evening he came to
our lodging. He said he was very sorry he could n
come before as he had business to attend to. He
gave me the sum of twelve shillings and said I
must have plenty to eat and plenty of warmth,
and then he bade me good night. On one occasion, when
he called on me, he said he hoped I was quite well, that
my husband was so, and that he would soon return, and
we should ao longer want for anything. On the follow-
ing Monday he called and gave me a sovereign, and told
me to go to my grandmother at Nottingham. He asked
if there was a train left for that place during that day.
I told him no ; and he then said I must go the next
morning, and if anybody asked where I was
going, I was to say I was going to Godalming,
in Surrey. He said that he would send
my weekly money by Post-office order, but that he
should not use my marriage name, Rudie. He asked
me my maiden name, and I told him it was Booth, and
he said he would send the money in that same. He
also told me if I saw anything in the newspapers about
my husband that I was to take no notice of it. I
asked for what reason my husband's name should ap-
pear is the newspapers. He made no answer
to that question, but told me to tell everybody
who :spoke to me about it that I knew the
character of my husband very well. I lever saw
the prisoner after I left London for Nottingham.
I received one letter from my husband. I don't know
what became of it. I believe the papers found at my
lodgings are in tie possession of Mr. Smith, the officer.
He fetched me from Nottingham. I went by my own
name o! Radio in Nottingham.
Mr. Sleigh—l was found in Nottingham by
Sergeant Smith. I am new lodging at an hotel in the
Strand. I don't pay for them. I was taken to Paris
a few weeks ago. I was toll I should be asked to be a
witness in this case, when I was in Nottingham. I
have been to Paris to see my husband. I
have not told him he was to have a pardon if I told all
I knew. Without any intimation from me my husband
told me to tell all I knew, I have hope that my hus-
band will be pardoned. I have not been told that
he will be pardoned by any person in authority.
I speak Italian, I know the words for 277 in
the Italian language. I never told Bernard to send the
money to me at Nottingham in my maiden name, He
said he would do so. _

Harriet Fay—l lodged in the same house as Rudio
did, in Bateman'e•buddings. The prisoner Bernard
once came into my room by mistake. I have seen him
on other occasions. I have seen Rudio with money
immediately after Bernard left his room. Rudio and
his wife were completely destitute. After Bernard came
on one occasion Rudio paid me very small sums I
had lent him. They were in great distress. Radio
went about for weeks with only his trousers and thin
coat on, locking for employment. I never knew persons
in greater want. I saw some papers lying on the table,
it had the words "Paris," "Da Silva," written on it. I
asked Rudio why he was going to Birmingham and
Ldicester on his way to Paris, and he said he was going
out as a travelling correspondent. Rudio's wife received
one letter from him after his departure. As she could
not real she brought it to me.
Mr. Bodkin to Sergeant Smith—You took possession
, of ituclio's papers—where is the letter c!
I Sergeant Smith—l have not got the letter.
Mr. Bodkin—Was it not amongst the papers you took
possession of
Witness—No.

Mr. Bodkin (addressing the magistrate)—That, sir, is
l all the evidence I shall be able to lay before you to-day.
lI had hoped that I should have been able to bring this
case to a conclusion to-day, but I find that one of our
iwitnesses has left London, but that he will return by
Saturday. I therefore have to ask you to remand the
prisoner till that day, when in about two hours I shall be
able to bring this case to a conclusion.
Mr. Jardine—Saturday will be a very inconvenient
day. I shall not be sitting. Why not say Monday.
Mr. Sleigh—l have very important business to attend
to on that day.
Mr. Jardine—Then /et it be Saturday, at 3 o'clock.
Mr. Bodkin—ln opening this case, I remarked that
though the prisoner was only charged with the misde-
meanour, I was unable at that moment to say what the
precise course I should adopt would be. I have now,
sir, to inform you that, upon the completion of the
evidence, I shall call upon you to commit the prisoner
for trial, as an accessory before the faot to murder, and
on Saturday I shall state my reasons why I call upon
)ou_ to take this course.

Mr. Sleigh—l cannot but say that the announcement
made by the counsel for the Treasury has taken me
entirely by surprise. The Government have proceeded
with this investigation up to the eleventh hour as a
misdemeanour, and I cannot but say that that course has
been adopted with a view of superseding the difficulty
of keeping this man in custody on such a charge.
It was very well known that at the end
of this investigation, that I intended to make an appli
cation for the admission of nsy client to bail, and that
security of the highest respectability was ready to any
amount, and I cannot help thinking there is some poli-
tical reason for the course that is now to be adopted,
and I have no hesitation in saying that I regard it as
a temporising :on the part cf the Government of this
country to the foreign policy of another country. (Loud
applause followed this declaration of the learned gentle-
man.)
Mr. Jardine—liisirg from his chair, and with much
apparent warmth, said it was the last time such a scene
should take place in this court. On Saturday I wid
make it a closed court. No one will be admitted.
Mr. Bodkin—l don't think that the public are
as much to blame as my learned friend is, for his absurd
and popular allusions to topics that have nothing at all
to do with the subject.
The prisoner was then removed from the court, and
the proceedings, which, towards the close, had become
very exciting, were adjourned till three o'clock on
Saturday afternoon.