The Sun.
London, England, 1858-06-17 00:00:00

THIRD READINGS.

On the motion of Lord REDESDALI, the following
bills were read a third time and,pa4sed :---Blyth Har-
bour and Deck; Ware, Hadham, and Buntingford Rail-
way ; Luton Gas ; Edinburgh and Glasgow, and Stir-
ling and Dunfermline Railways ;.and_File and Kinross
Railway.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a gen-
tleman complaining that he had been prevented in ob-
taining his rights by •the forms of the house, and then
referred to the well known Sheddon case, and urged
upon their lordships the necessity of remedying the evil.
PROBATE AND ADMINISTRATION BILL.
This bill was reported with amendments.
DIVORCE BILL.

On the motion that the report on this bill be received,
Lord ItEDESDALE said he proposed to amend
clause five in this bill by the insertion of the words
" and Ireland," in order to extend the privileges of the
bill to that country.
Lord.CRANWOATH had no objection to the inser-
tion of the word _ _

Lord CA*PBELL strongly opposed the amendment.
The Earl of WICKLOW said he believed the
people
~,Of - Ireland would not avail themselves
of ,the ' bill, because the majority of them
we ;Roman Catholia, and they believed that the bill
w iit variance with the Scriptures, a feeling in which
he anticipated. He was however willing that the
amendment should be made merely as as experiment
After a short discussion in which. the Lord Chancellor,
Lord Oan3pbell, and E trl Grey took part,
Toe clause, as amended, was agreed to.
Several other amendments having been made, the bill
was reported with amendments.
LAW OF FALSE PRETENCES BILL.
This bill passed through committee, without amend-
ments.
THE SLAVE TRADE.

The Bishop of OXFORD rose to present a petition
from St. Mary, in the island of Jamaica. The petition
stated that the trea'y entered into with Spain for the
suppression of the slave trade had been violated, and
the petitioners prayed that Spain might be compelled to
faithfully carry out the provisions of the treaty for
which she had received so large a aura of money as com-
pensation. •
[LEFT RPWCING.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(This Day.)J

The Sr.BARICH took the °heir at 12 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The following private billy were read a third time and
passed :—Great Northern and Western Of Ireland)
Railway, Limerick and Foynes Railway, Oxford, Wor-
cester, and Wolverhampton Railway, Shrewsbury and
Welchpool Railway, and Waveney Valley Railway.

Thefollowing bills were further considered, and ordered
to be read a third time :—lleve Loprovernent, Durham
and Cleveland Uaiou Railway, and St.‘ Leonard (Shore-
ditch) Parish.
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA.

The house went into committee on the India reso!u-
tione :

Lord STANLEY moved the following resolution :
"That the members of the nominated portion of the
council shall be selected by her Majesty, subj-ct, as a
general role, to the qualification above expressed, and
one-half at the least of the elected members shall pore
seas the like qualification." He said the vote of Monday
had placed the house in some difficulty relative to this
subject. Not only had the house decided that permanent
legislation should take place in the course of the present
session, but had fixed the number of the council, and
that the manner of electing should not be exclusively
that of the Crown. Speaking of the proposition of
looking to India for the appointment of a portion
of its council, the noble lord said that neither
the Governor-General nor the Governor of the
Indian presidencies could feel anything but an
indirect interest in the efficiency of the Indian council
at borne ; and, on the other hand, they did and must
feel a direct and strong interest in that which was
immediately under their eyes, and subject to their
management, in the efficiency of the civil and mili-
tary service of India on the spot. There was the
danger that if they trusted to the Indian authorities
to select any portion of the Indian council here, it
could hardly be expected they would make so great
a sacrifice as to deprive themselves of the ser-
vices of the most eminent and efficient men, but
that they would send home men for whom they
desired to provide honourable retirement; and there
was a great risk that, under such a plan, the portion
of the council so chosen would be made a sort of
shelf—a sort of honourable retirement for those whom
the Governor-General of India had no desire further to
employ. If, however, a contrary result occurred, it was
quite obvious another result equally as inconvenient
would be arrived at—that of obtaining a maximum of
efficiency in the council here euly at the sacrifice of a
maximum efficiency in the civil and military services
of India. Against the adoption of that plan there
had been a plan suggested by the honourable lord
the member for Carlisle. Thu Government had con-
sidered that proposition, and they were of opinion
it wool I not meet all the difficulties of the case. Her
Majesty's Government considered such a plan as that
suggested by the right hon. baronet would be open to
many and grave abuses. What was it then, her Ma-
jesty's Government proposed 1 They thought by the
decision of the committee on a former occasion that
pazt of the council should be nominated and a part
elected, that the real desire of the council was that the
xclu,.ive right of nominating should not rest in the
hands of the Crown—(hear, hear)—so as to lessen the
amount of patronage in the hands of the Secretary of
State for Lelia. (Hear, hear.) Her Majesty's Go-
vernment were prepared to
accept the number of 15
councillors, and they proposed that in the first instance
eight of them should be nominated, and the remaining
seven, following to a certain extent the principle of
1853, elected from among their own number by
the Court of Directors, aed the subsequent
appointments filled up alterna'ely by the nomination of
the Crown and by election—the right of election to be
ooufined to the remaining members of the council. Such
a plan would get rid of
.the abuses that sometimes
existed in self-elected bodies. •
Lord PALMERSTON considered -that before the
committee was called upon to give a vote on this plan,
it should be embodied in a resolution And printed with
the votes fur the consideration of hon, members. He
condemned the idea that they were to legislate for India
in a different spirit to the constitution ee this country.
He asked her Majesty's Government and the committee
to deal with this council on the established principle of
the British constitution. and give to her Majesty's ad-
visors the
power of naming the council the same as they
did the judges of the land, governors-general
of colo-
nies, and other officers, which made her Majesty's
advisors responsible for them. He was opposed to any
hocus-pocus system of nominating "rtkin portions of
the council. By the plan proposed the Crown would
have the majority cf nominations, and be asked the
committee not to depart from the principles cf the
British Constitution in theory, whilst in practice, by the
election of the council, they would adopt it. He called
upon her Majesty's Government to come forward and
.order to olraiu
support the principles of the constitution
in the creation
of the council, and not depart from it n a
few votes.
Mr. WALPOLE said that the plan proposed was not
principles cf the constitution, and
a departure from the
reminded the committee that the struggle between Mr.
Pitt and Mr. Fox was of a similar character to that
now before the committee. He approved of the plan
for various reasons, and especially that it would give
independence of action to the council more than any
other plan.
Sir J. GRAHAM said the noble lord, in moving his
resolution, had not touched on the tenour of office, the
salary to be Field, and other matters—important ques-
tions that must be embraced in any scheme before the
committee could adopt it, especially in ono possessing
a mixed plan of nomination and election. He thought
the committee should not this day be called upon to
come to a decision on the plan before the committee,
which entirely did away with the seven resolutions on
the paper. He congratulated the noble lord the member
for Tiverton at drawing every debate:closer and closer to
the view of the hon. member for Birmingham, and if they
went on debating this question much longer he (Sir J.

A prospectus has been issued of the Great Indian
Submarine Telegraph Company, with a capital of
1,000,0001. in 20/. shares. The proposal is to construct
lice on Mr. Allan's patent from Falmouth to Bombay,
via Gibraltar, Malta, and Alexandria, and thence by the
Red Sea to Aden and Bombay. Mr. Allan contends
that his system confers the advantage of an economy of
40 per cent. in the first cost of construction, and of
more tban 50 per cent, in the working.
TRH FLIRT OF LORD LIONS.—This magnificent fleet
is cruising off the island and going through many evolu-
tions. At about 11.30 p.m. Lest night a heavy cannonade
was heard, ah ch at first alarmed many of the natives,
but it proved to be a sham battle fought by the fiet,
bearing N.N.E. cf the island. The firing was quick,
and lasted till a little after midnight. Some of the
broadsides were so heavy that houses were actually
shaken from the effects,
and several people fancied
was a shock of earthquake.—Malta Daily News,
June 11.