The Sun.
London, England, 1860-09-06 00:00:00

—with a dark winter and hard times before us, I say it is
most unreasonable to make these poor shareholders and
small tradesmen pay up the letter of their bond. I say it
is hard and unreasonable. And I say, moreover, that the
scheme has never come to maturity, and it now never can.
(Oh.) It is weak and feeble as childhood, yet the wrinkles
of age are on its face, and the palsy of decrepitude are upon
it. I move, as an amendment, " That it is not expedient,
under existing circumstances, for this company to publish
the daily Dial newspaper, either alone or in connection
with any other journal."
Mr. PHIPS seconded the amendment.
HENRY BATEMAN, Esq., after remarking that we should
be courteous to our country friends, said—lt would be to
me a great joy indeed if I felt that there was the paper al-
ways which I could carry home from my countinghouse,
to my own parlour, and lay it on the table that my little
girl might read it, and know there was nothing there that
would corrupt her heart. I trust we shall carry out in their
entireness our original principles, that it shall be a thorough
good, right, honest, English, Christian paper, that every
Christian gentleman would be glad to have it in his pocket,
and glad to take home to his family. (Cheers.)
Mr. T. M. HART begged to support the amendment.
Mr. E. ALBUTT, of Hanley—The majority of this meeting
I can see very clearly, will be in favour of the original mo-
tion. (Cheers.) I hope there will be at all events some con-
sideration shown to us from the country. I have yet to learn,
sir, that all the wisdom remains in London. After explain-
ing the interest he had felt in this movement, he said :—I
do not like this amalgamation. If you cannot publish what
you intended, don't publish at all. It seems to me that you
don't know how to get rid of £17,000 or LlB,OOO. There is
no necessity to part with it, I really see no great haste.
Mr. A. M'CniatnLE said—ln my district the whole feel-
ing was in favour of the movement, and I feel I could have
come with a resolution unanimously signed in favour of the
circular signed by the secretary.
Mr. J. PLATO, of Chesham—l am a plain-spoken man—
you can see that. (Laughter.) I have not had the advan-
tage of a good education, and therefore I hope that you who
have will.see how to be thankful for it. I am not a very good
speaker myself, but I live just eight miles from where there
is a very good speaker. (Laughter.) I don't go altogether
with him in his creed ;—I mean Benjamin Disraeli. I live
seven or eight miles from him, and we are on very good
terms. (Cheers and laughter.) Twenty years and six months
ago I was in sad circumstances ; but when I got a sober
man I wanted to read, and I found myself at an institution.
And who came to Chesham but these gentlemen. Well, I
said to my wife, "They are,going to have a paper called the
Dial." " The Dial," said she ; " what is that ?" "Oh
I don't know," I said, "but I'll be one with them to-
night." " I'll go with you," says she. (We go hand in
hand since the last twenty years,) Well, we went. Mr.
Thomas, you know, had great influence in our town.
Well, I said to Mr. Thomas, " Do you know Samuel Bew-
ley ?" (You know Quakers are wide awake.) He said, "Yes,
I do," " Has he taken shares ? " said I. He said, "Yes,"
" Then so will I." (Laughter.) You see, gentlemen, they
have influence in the country, and these things carry some
people. Lucy sat next to me, and she says, " What are you
thinking about ?" I said, " What do you say, shall we have
one share or two ?" " Well," she says, " try one first and
see how that does." (Laughter.) Well, I took her advice,
—(cheers and laughter)—and when wo got home she said,
"You may depend upon it Mr. Thomas would not recom-
mend a thing if it was not honest and good—(cheers)—and
she wanted another share. lam a plain man, and I say,
Carry on the concern ; and if youcannot, wind it up. lam
a plain man and speak what I mean, and if I had not said
what I have said to-night, I should not have slept well to-
night. (Cheers.)
Mr. BEILES entered into some explanations in answer to
questions.
The Rev. JOSEPH FLETCHER, of Christchurch, after a
few introductory remarks, said, they should have plenty of
time allowed fotalking. If the question were settled to-
day there would be no other opportunity of deliberating on
this important subject. He would move—" That this ques-
tion be not settled, but adjourned to such an occasion as
may be determined by the present meeting."
The Rev. ROBERT MACBETH, of Hammersmith, had not
had occasion often to differ from his friend Mr. Fletcher,
but to -day he did most widely differ from him on all essen-
tial point§. Any plan which would enable them to introduce
conscience into the daily press of this country should be
carefully deliberated upon and warmly supported. He
begged and implored the meeting not to cast away a chance
of introducing the action of conscience into our daily press
in a very powerful and efficient manner.
The Rev..WILLIAm KNOX—Gentlemen, this is a favour
able opportunity, not a paper coming and soliciting them,
but the directors watched for a paper coming forward, on
certain principles proximating more or less to their own.
As soon as they see such a paper approaching a posi-
tion that is making it a mighty power in this nation—an
established institution of worth doing good, then your di-
rectors step forward and design to effect a junction with it;
and l mean to,aay that your directors, asking your consent
to such a junction, deserve the cordial support of the whole
meeting. (Great cheers.)
JOHN EVERITT, Esq.—As one of the directors who have
taken upon themselves these negotiations, perhaps a word
may be acceptable and due from me. What this company
proposed in the first instance we are now seeking to do, and
have been seeking, with untiring fidelity to its first love,
and we believe this will be best accomplished by uniting
ourselves with the staff, the executive, the building, and
the plant of an existing journal. Do not suppose for a mo-
ment that we are going to identify ourselves with•a bank-
rupt concern. Don't think that your directors are so hood-
winked as to link your £lB,OOO to nobody for nothing—
(hear, hear)—or that they will for one instant sign away
your rights or compromise the integrity of your purpose.
We seek a union with a paper prepared to adopt our pro-
spectus. We must be satisfied that it is financially sound;
and in order that your interest should not be sacrificed you
should be fairly represented in the board of management.
Now, I put it to the meeting, I put it to the country, whe-
ther we have not been cautious in the advancement of this
enterprise. Gentlemen, we have no desire for concealment
as to the paper we would wish to join. We wish every-
thing fair and above board. It is the Star with which we
wish to amalgamate. I say, to the honour of the men of
the Star, they have not sought us. They are able, willing,
and determined to prosecute their noble enterprise on their
own footing.
Mr. G. BROWN, of Warfdsworth—l should be myself
happy to carry out this resolution, and I rise for the pur-
pose of seconding the motion of Mr. Fletcher, that this
meeting be adjourned to take into consideration the sub•-

jest.
Mr. J. EDWARDS—If the Dal has to be started in itself,

I think Mr. Thomas was perfectly correct in stating that ii
must be a penny Dial. There is a penny paper, it appears
with similar aims; and if the Dial were established, these
papers must necessarily be antagonistic. (No, no.) I say
they must—(hear, hear) ; that is, I say, as far as advertise-
meats are concerned ; and I think it would be a pity if no
amalgamation could be effected. It would realise in some
way the original pretensions. I think this project is a fea-
sible one. (A voice—" A feeble one.") Some gentleman
says it is a feeble one. If that gentleman would invite me,
I would go down at my own expense to Hanley with Mr.
Albutt and Mr. Wragge ; I would meet them there before
the shareholders, and would undertake to prove to them
that this is the most expedient and the best course we can
pursue.
Dr. BURNS—I think the whole matter has been very
comprehensibly stated, and that the gentlemen present will
bo able to come to some definite conclusion without having
an adjournment. I have never been very enthusiastic or
sanguine in connection with the Dial movement. I have
rather been dragged into it, but not because I did not ap-
prove of the idea. I thought the Idea was grand, beautiful,
and essential to the moral progress of our country ; but I
always saw very great difficulties in the way of working it
out, and I. see some of these difficulties still. But I feel
that if we carry this out the great idea will not be ship-
wrecked. It is only the adoption of this principle or the
winding up of the company. I don't think the £20,000
invested in starting the Dial is at all adequate to the ob-
ject. And, supposing you can increase your 9,000 share-
holders into 10,000, I think if we are at all disposed to carry
out our purpose we must do it by an amalgamation.
Several speakers hereupon followed. After they had
been heard, Mr. Fletcher withdrew his motion for adjourn-
ment.

The CHAIRMAN put the amendment proposed, " That it
is not expedient to publish the Dial, &c." Eight heads
only were held up in favour thereof, the original resolution
was enthusiastically carried.
Mr. KNox then moved that the Rev. David Thomas,
Edmond Beales, and John Moss, Esqs!, and the Rev: W.
Webster, be the representatives of the company in the sew
company.
After some conversation the motion was put and carried.
After the akption of some other resolutions, the meeting
separated with a vote of thanks to the chairman.

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