The Sun.
London, England, 1867-05-25 00:00:00

SCOTCH EDUCATION.

Sir E. COLEBROOK asked the right hon. gentleman the
memb3r for E liuburgh whether he proposed to proceed
with his motion on Scotch Education on the day at present
fixed ?

Mr. MONCRIEFF said be did not intend to go ou
with the subject until after Whitsuntide.
THE SUPPLEHENTAL AIMY ESTIMATES.

In reply to Lord ELcuo,
Sir J. PAKINGTON said he could not at the present
moment say tho exact period at which these estimates
would be taken into consideration.
THE CONDEMNED FENIANS.

The O'DONOGIII/E said, on Mondaj he should inquire
of the Government whether there was any intention of
commuting the sentences of death passed on the persons
convicted of high treason in Ireland.
THE RAJAH OF MYSORE.

Lord WILLIAM HAY called the attention of the House
to the despatch of the Secretary of State for ladia relative
to the claims of the Maharajah of Mysore.
Mr. SMOLLETT characterised Sir S. Northeote's
despatch as the most honest and straightforward which
had issued from the ludia-office ou this subject, though it
was not in entire accordance with Lord Cranborne's
language, and did not condemn in sufficiently strong
language the unscrupulous views of the Indian officials
who had contemplated the annexation of Mysore. The
original treaty, he maintained, was intended to be permanent,
and after the Queen's Proclamation, abandoning for ever
the policy of annexation, the absorptiou of Mysore would
be regarded in India as a gross breach of faith. He pro-
tested against the interpretation of the treaty being de-
cided by au arbitrary Governor-General, backed by a
crotchety Secretary of State; it was a legal question which
ought to be decided by an impartial legal tribunal, and he
agreed with Lord W. Hay that the system of native
agency, which was more popular in native States and in-
finitely more economical, ought to be restored.
Sir H. RAWLINSON expressed unreserved approbation
of Sir S. Northcote's despatch, and argued that the treaty
was permanent and dynastic, the mere fact of sovereignty
involving the right of heritable succession. Adverting to
a rumour that the Secretary of State had acted against the
opinion of the majority of his Council, he asserted that
with one exception all the-councillors who had experi•grice
of native States were in favour of this policy, and he de-
fended the part he had taken in calling the attention of
Parliament to the matter.
Colonel SYKES and Sir E. COLEBROOKE also spoke
in warm approval of the decision of the Government and
the dynastic character of the treaty.
3II:. LAING, without intimating a decided personal
opinion as to the treaty, pointed out that hitherto all the
weight of authority was against its dynastic character,
and. dilated on what he described as a misfortune—that
the decision of successive Governors-General and Indian
Secretaries should be overruled by a Secretary just now
to office, who could not be considered an Indian authority
—on the tendency to concentrate the Government of India
in England, and on the importance of consistency in our

Indiau policy. Though not an advocate of annexation, ha
gave some reasons for concluding that Lord Dalhousie's
policy had been beneficial to India.
Mr. 11. D. SEYMOUR criticised the vagueness of the
despatch, and insisted that Sir S. Northcote ought to givo
some opinion on the character of the treaty ; and, after
some observations from Mr. STANSFELD,

Sir S. NORTHCOTE defended the decision of the Go-
vernment and explained the steps he had taken, intimating
that his object had been to avoid as much as possible
entering into minute inquiry into the character of the
treaty (which was open, no doubt, to argument on both
sides). In coming to a decision he had been guided not
so much by the language of the treaty as by a reference to
the spirit of the arrangement Lord Wellesley intended to
make and on the grounds of general p9licy, and he can-
vassed minutely the transactions of 1799 with the view of
showing that, though Lord Wellesley's idea was to hold
Mysore in a dependent and subordinate position, he did not
necessarily contemplate a future annexation. lie defended
next the policy of making arrangements for the future
government of the country at once, in preference to leav-
ing them open, enlarged on the importance of endeavouring
to develope the native talents for self-government, and dis-
claimed all idea of overriding the policy of his pre-
decessors.

Lord CRANBORNE cordially approved the action of
his successor in overruling the majority of his Council, not
only because he agreed in the policy he had adopted, but
because he noticed in the dissents of some councillors
a tendency to trench on the functions of the House of
Commons. The despatch substantially
.carried out his
own views and embodied the general opinion of the House
of Commons, and he commended the wisdom of its silence
on the law of the case, though his own opinion still in-
clined to the personal character of the treaty. With great
power of language and felicity of illustration, he explained
his reasons for advocating the maintenance of a few well-
governed native States, which afforded oprortunities for
the development of the moral qualities of the natives, and
in their simpler form of government might often produce
more salutary effects than our complicated system.

After some observations from Mr. KINNAIRD the sub-
ject dropped.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, in reply to Mr. Milner
Gibson, gave some explanations as to the state of the law
respecting the securities which are required from the pro-
prietors of small newspapers and other publications, assur-
ing him that no new directions had been given as to pro-
secutions by the present Government, and declining to
bring in a Bill this session for the repeal of these securi-
ties.

Mr. AYRTON mentioned that he had passed two Bills
for the purpose through that house, and the rejection of
the last in the Lords had been brought about entirely by
the management of the so-called Liberal Government then
in office.

Some conversation took place, started by Mr. C. FOR.
TESCUE and followed up by Mr. O'BEIRNE and Dr.
BRADY, on the inconvenience of delaying the introduc-

tion of the Irish Reform Bill until after Whitsuntide.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER acknow-
ledged that there had been delay, for which he took the
responsibility, but urged the pressure of public affairs,
and promised that the Bill should be brought in directly
-that Whitsuntide, and that ample time should be given
before the second reading.
Mr. ESMONDE complained with some bitterness of the
contempt with which Ireland had been treated; and The
O'DONOGHUE asked whether the Bill would be based
on the same principles as the English Bill, but received no
reply.

In committee of supply, the remaining votes in clause
3 and a vote of £1,700,000 to pay off Exchequer Bonds
were agreed to.

The Habeas Corpus (Ireland) Suspension Act passed
through committee, and, the standing orders haying been
suspended, was read a third time and passed.
Some other orders wore disposed of, and the house was
" counted out" at a quarter to two o'clock.