The Sun.
London, England, 1804-04-14 00:00:00

BUDGET.

The CHANCELLOR of the ExctiEquur! gavc
Lice, that he ...la- Oa, on Wednesday zennight move.

the, Ways and Means for raising the Supply of the
Year..

IRISH MILITIA.

Mr.. Secretary YoIKE moved the third reading of
Hthe Irish Militia Offers Bill.

Mr. KINNAIRIY made several objeaionslo the
Bill and to. the mode of augmenting .the Militia,
which, as it was-kept on foot at the expence of both
KingdoinTi-ottrirtint7fOr the defence of both. He
concluded by .urging, the 'necessity- oe.--ettergetic
measures at theptesefit crisis.
kir: LEE expiessc'S hiuiself strongly.' in 'favour,
.f an Imperial. Militia, . conceiving thal thire Was:.
no sntm,d 'reason for.lneking,up fi'certaip number of
ILZili is in -.nglatid or 'in Irekr...cl'e.xclu9ively. -•He
thOtight that all upon' this sUbjea. ought
to be done away, zs so lring.ai. ,the, Militia of the
two Countries remained (fiitinti, -so long Ireland
was -deprived of a part cif 'these advantages which
ought to result froth. the' 'Union.' He stated that
:besides the 6,000 of the Irish Militia who appear-
cd in the paper 'on
,the Table., he understood that
:three Regiments more had since., volunteered their
.services in the same way.
_:•

11,41VKES repeated his firmer objeftions to
`the fneasurei-for which he conceived that no neces.
-sity:had been, made out, nor could he perceive thAt
:by t.aking away to,ooo Militia from Ireland,- any •
.number of men could be got for general, service.
..
Mr: KiNNAIkD eXpiitiOed.
. Mr. WINDH4M reserved his opinion on" .the
general subjea, until the Bill which had been,pOst-
ported shoUld be,brought forward.. What he rose
for in the present instance, was• to throve.- Out An
idea, which he thought necessary for him on this tic—
casino, lest he be thought to acquiesce ire' sentiments
from which he differed, although his general opinion
was in unison with the Hortourable Gentleman who
uttered.them. What he meant applied to that which
was commonly called the Love of our Country ;
by that he neither meant that which embraced the
general interests of the world, as they might be
viewed by some, nor that contraded policy which
was adopted by others, although he admitted that
some of the best principles that a man cherished in
society, arose from local attachment for the COuntry,
as the particular spot that gave him birth ; this at_
tachment, althoughlocal and contraded, led to many
generous,ads, but still he would not:have it ,pressed
too far, such as to make. a- mad attend:to the parti:
cular interest of Susiex instead of Kent,_or any. thing
of that nature ; he wished .for something more
,Li-
beral, and that Gentlemen, should take a:View orthe
true interests of the British Empire, not of England
in contradistinaion to Ireland, 'nor of Ireland as
different from England, but-of the general and unit.
ed interests of both ; not that he Wished to be
4inderstOod to bind himself to any broad general
principle applicable so all cases:.of this nature,:
for be knew" how many virtuous . sentiments
originated in What might properly be called local
'prejudices ; for attachment to the spot 'which gave
.'a man birth, or that in. which his ancestors had
made great achievements, or the like, were of
that charader,. and in one' sense was the love of
one's Country attog•-ther, for that was -twprefer
its interest to' that of the rest of mankind. He.
therefore wished, that in judging of the interest
of the British Empire, Gentlemen would, consider
85 much as they could the, case of England and of
Ireland as one and the same thing. *He. thotight it
necessary' to make these few observations, at the
same time that he retained his.opittion on the general
military system which Ministers had adopted for
both parts of the Empire,
• Mr. Secretary YORKE approved of every sylla..
ble of what was uttered to-night by the Right Hon.
Gentleman who had just sat down, upon the sub_
jet of the love of our Country, and he deprecated
the prance of endeavoUring to set off one part of
the Empire against the other in interest, for that
. was direaly hostile to the true spirit of the Union
between Great Britain and Ireland, an event from
whiCh he expected great benefits to arise, as we
had felt from the Union between England aod SeLit.
land. He then proceeded to defend the Bill;now•
before the. House; and 'in the course 'of which he
adverted to all the arguments which had been urged
against it, and maintained the propriety of the
measure altogether upon general principles.
Lord FOLKESTONE objected' to the general prin..
ciples of the Bill. •
Sir JOHN NEWPORT observed upon the.lVii,
litia system in general, of which the present mea.
sure was a branch.--Re said he bad no intention'of
coffin.); in question the purity. 'of the motives of
those Gentlemen Who .had, entered into certain Re.
Solutions on the subjea of the Militia voluoteering
to go out of their' own -Country into anothef pate
of the Empire. He considered those' NO:lilelden
and Gentlemen as persons of pure:honour and
fed integrity, who -aaed, from the most unqtte.s-
tionably, virtuous feelings, whether they were cos_.
red•in judgment or not. He said he should. give,
a vote to night different from'that _Which:het:iv;
on a fOrmer Occasion, upon this Bill, and, that arose
from an u:lderstanding,that no provision was at all in:..
tended to be made for
.On inicrelmnge of the Militia
of the two Countries ;, and he trusted, at alt.events,
if any part of the Militia of Ireland was to be
called out of that Country, they Would not he• re-
placed by foreigners.. He' took occasion to ob-
serve upon the Union between this Country and
Ireland.—He thought that measure had not been fair-
ly treated, it had not yet had 'any thing like a fair
trial. Those who planned it, and trom whose
',talents and exertion both Countries, must justly;
expected much. for. the general advantage of both
parts of the Empire, had not hitherto_been able to
ad, as could have been wished, and until some
Measures came froM those eminent per Sons according
to .their the
heir sense of the utility of
.the Union,.and
true spirit of it as a measure :of general policy for
the interest of the Empire, the• Union could not' be
said to have been' fairly tried. He must be allowed
also to : say it 'appeared to him to be itnpolitic'to
bring forward from day to day those measures which
applied only to particular objeas, and the pro Visions
of which were of a local and temporary nature.--
S He to see some broad,.general and permanent
System adopted equally applicable to each part of
mile United Empire, so as to consolidate the in.
retests, conciliate the hearts, and meet the wishes
of both sides:; but he could not help saying that a
great (Ica, of the advantages the Empire might

•
hive deeiVed from the good wishes of leading
men, had • been done away by The firebrands of ".
discord of late employed in Ireland.
Mr. Secretary YORKE exnlained what he had for•
merly said on the subjeet of the Army of Reserve.
: Mr. FOX said, that his reason for rising now
was, to: take notice of what had just past hotn
an
Honourable 'Member behind him (Sir JOHN Navr-
PORT),- 'He was glad he had now understood the
Honourable Member as to what- he had said on
former night, for he had thought he had cast refiec- '
'tiOns on those Noblemen and Gentlemen who signed
:the Resolu'tion alluded to, relative to the Militia
•goingotteof this Country.—They were charaders
of the highest class, and for whom he professed .to
.have' very warm attachment, and as he now under•
stood, the Hon, Member. did not mean to express
himself in the way he (Mr.. Fox) then undersood be
had done, all he Would-say was, he was sorry. he
had misunderstood hint, and he begged his pardon.
As to the Debate of to-night, it had, as on sotne
Other occasions, been fashionable to go into extrae
neous matter ; but he should not follow the example'
there were many plots stated which he should noc
discuss ; but, on the point of the love of his Country, .
.he must say that he-was: between the two extremes,
neither desirous. that local attachment should checi;
general sentiment, nor that general sentiment should
wholly destroy local attachment. ;It was true °Jac
. Parliament,' as such, must consider the two Con'
tries, England and Ireland, united .in interescstg
one individual Country, but while they were
lating on a iVleasure so local in its nature, as that
,°
the :Militia was, they must consider what were the
dispositions of , the People, of each Country,
possiblrparticolar spots ineacli Country. So that
the House was not, in this .case, to •consider the
At of Parliament upon general principles, vvitlh'uc
regard to local attachment ; and here came -
differenee- between the friends and the
of the Union; the one wished to diminish, the
other- to increase-these local attachments,. and
prejudices arising ,out of them ;‘ nor was it, to be
at 'once cured. It was true the Aft of ITh°,
declared the two Countries to be joined as one, but
At
hieTr,
feelings;or 4 orthhe.s.
it was not by Afts of Parliament, but bytabirs that
men felt;
_it was not by the Statute of the 6th °:
o George; that men regulated
f were. not
•which
we distinguished between an Englishman and,
Scothtnaneor between either of them and an
man'; could rules by
Oley'change a.man's pref.:.rence .tor
the County of Sussex to that of Kent. These thine
depended upon habits, which could not be bast'"
done away... But there was a part of this
Bill that appeared to him to require amendment°.
;If we. lotOughit into England' to,ooo Irish Militiq
e should : have among them a great number. °`
Catholici, they weteali under the discipline of rl'a
Mutiny Bill, and chiefly. if
,not ..wholly Protestant
Officers. It was a part of Military discipline t°
oblige itierito go to Church—One wool,' not thin
that this power would be used for the , purpose 1-)
oppression, and he hoped nor, but he sohmirred thac
either a' clause should be introduced into this Bill, ,
else a new •Bill should be brought in, in which
sion should be made, by which these Catholicsr•
should not be ,compelled to follow the Protefita:
form of warship against their scruples of-nothing
L,. P.11a9N3 observed there '4(35 11°t
ta-
in the Articles of War by which they werec„.)ree
pelled to do this. He then proceeded to e
on the Union of the two Countries, Geniietl-ld
seemed to consider Ireland as if it were. another a
remote Country beyond the Atiantic-ewher'as
the true way to consider that Matter was to consioer
the Channel between England and Ireland as a mere
Canal, by which a Conithunication was to he CO-
stantly kept up between them. Upon the measure
now before the House, he Jvas a friend to it, n°f,
could he 'omit this opportunity of observing Ella`
or
Ireland was never better taken care of by sea
land, than at the present time ; .which *as 1101 thc
case in every instance in the time of 'the late A`lle
ministratione, the particulars of which,
although
could, he would forbear to state.
Gentle
Mr. WM. SMITH observed, that Irish Gent,..-
men appeared to himao aecede44.► this Measure uii"°f'
1r
the idea that itwas to be reciprocal, and that sinic
offers were to 'be made by the Eeglish h
idea, if indulged,' might go:,r
wished •the •.House to consider to what length
should ~not try any thing of this hind tv:
out a -general revision of the Militia. -I),tac
and. an alteration of a permanent nature °roaa'e
future,..but all the present Militia must be acould
ed .to remain- He thought .Ib,
as. they are; for Parliament LiOori
net, 'cortsiSteotly with its'. honour, operate Dill
• thertrhy an ex postfiido taw. He- thought di/ rose
objeoiOnable- on 'the ground that it would ir'c of
thee price
_of Sphstitutes, which was a rag' (ea
.aceonnt of mete being.unwilling to 'etrter whereeell, •
nathee.OftheseiViee was extended. But ilbe with
considering the Chafaeter of the Goiernment, Goa
which we had torOntend, not only now, but •
Id
veroment which France rujght assume if they' 00
be ea happy as ropart with its present head; 'ffit,leulel) of
that 'idea' he thottalit it was well worth the 'NI. d or
• ,t a '
the-House, to consider Whether we should n`,,e00.#4,
a different system for our defence in future, a'
vstealf
hitherto We had been indeed happy in that
Lord PRoav was against the Bill,
general °bier."
Colonel CRAUFO.RD entered:.into gene._ ea
oose
vations on • the Bill, and proceeded to Pr°l_,,, to
Amendment, the objed of which lie said wel dic
put an end to that state of deliberation in which aet'
to
wh
preient Bill placed the Militia. He was a
• expatiate upon, the detail of his Amendment,. the
Mr: Secretary YoRRE called to ./
On
001,
ground, that the detail of the Measure sh 010• ,
• take place until it had been 'moved.
The SPEAKER decided 'accordingly.
Are PYTCHEE opposed the Bill. 5 ° Ice
P
General LoFTus approved of the Bill he SoldierP
•• in. terms of:high commendation'of the Irish
uf
resulc
and said, he thought great advantages wo "'cool
front the interchange of the Militia of the tw°
Mr,
tries.
• •
After 'a few. words froth Lord Eus-roNt
the House divided,
100
. For the Bill, -
Mr. HUTCHINSON, an...,4MiallaAGG''''
• WHITBREAD,
4-e
• Against it, -

ajOr:tY,

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1
1

M

. ,
new -r• YoQisi prop3se Ole oli-
jea of one Was; to limit the duration of this Bill to
the i§th March i 806, and the other, enading that
the service of the Irish Militia in England should
be limited to the duration of the Bill ;—both of
which were, after some conversation; agreed to;—
and the Bill was passed.
The CHANCELLOR .12f the EXCHEQUER
in pursuance of his notice, moved for the appoint-
ment of a Committee to take into considera-
tion the Petition from the Counties of Norfolk,
Suffolk, &c. respefting the exportation of grain: the
objea fur which he moved this Corrimittee was, to
consider whether the price at which Wheat was
allowed to be exported under the 31st of GEo. 111.
Was note under all the circumstances, too low.
The Motion was agreed to, • and the Committee'
was appointed.
The other Orders of the Day were through,-
and the House adjourned to
Mondalygone .

MAILS,

Cottenburgh DUE
o.
liamburgh t - - -

ARRIVED.
• 2

PRICE OF STOCKS,
THIS TIIY AT TWELVE O'CLoCK.
COHSOIS - -

55 i i

THE SUN.

SOLEM QUIS lIICERE EALSUM AUDEAT ?

LONDON, APRIL 14, 1804

Two Gottenburgh Mails arrived this morning.
aionnly intelligence they bring relates to the sen-
excited by the Murder of the Duke d'ENG-
HIEN, and the arrest of French Emigrants in
Germany. The following is an Extras of a Letter
from Glttenburgh, dated April 7.
" 'ltle daring steps the French have takemin
arresting Emigrants in Germany, have caused some
sensation in this Country, and the execution of
the Duke WENGHIEN has excited. equal surptlie
and indignation : it surel
before these y will not be very. long
Powers, who have been soyvery catt-
tious in avoiding the .War , take an aSive part.
_
will in it ; at least accounts received this morning from-
Stockholm, appear to countenance this.expeetation.
certainly the movements of these two feeble
Kingdoms (Sweden and Denmark) must depend upon
those of Rysia;"

LAST night we received the Monitiurs to the 6th
Instant, which contain the particulars of ;he arre"
of some more of
fond silence The most pro-
the Conspirators.
is maintained with respe& to the fate
look
Of M°READ and picHEc, but we must no longer
to the Moniteur for intelligence of what passes
in PdriS.

By a Neutral Vessel that arrived from Holland,
we learn that ,the.French_ have demanded possession
of sixty or seventy Houses at Utrecht, which was
done in a summary way, by sending a note to every
occupier, signifying they must quit possession im.
mediately, leaving the furniture on the premises,
of which they might take an inventory. An En-
campment of 4.0,000 men is immediately to take
Place at Utrecht.

LAST night Mr. Fox gave notice in the House
of eQuitnons, of his intention of bringin
a M°6on g forward
the'on Friday next, respefting the state of.
Defence .of the Country. He also put some
questions to the CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER
re'Pe°lng the Russian. Mediation, but the latter
haring stated that -there were same circumstances
3u6isting, oihich would render it improper to make
any cornintinication at present, Mr. Fox declined
making any Motion upon the subjea.
The CHAuc ELLOP, of the EXCHEQUER gave no.
tice that he:would bring forward the Budget on
Wednesday se'nnight.

Our Port Letters this morning bring no further
accounts of the 'Vessels that sailed upon the Stone
Exped
dition on
wo Thursday. It was supposed they
Har übour. l be.surk that night at the mouth of Boulogne

___._,............. • .
Yesterclay abou one o'clock HER and 1
the Princesses EL 1 z ABETH, m MAJESTY,
SOPHIA, and
MARY, -
_A.ME LI A, attended by the Countess CARDIGAN and
. Lady j. THYNE, took an airing throughlulham
and Putney.
Yesterday mornio -
audience of THE I R g the DUKE of YORK had an
MA j Esl I ES.
Yesterday the PRINCESS of W 1 fashionable visits in turnALES paid 'several
,in r elegant low W.-
roaches dhe
drawn In
four bay horses, and afterwards
took an airing in Hyde Park. Her Royal Highness
and
w"re a black pelisse, a black hat and pink feathers,
( appeared in hi 4 iteAlth and spirits. She was
accompanied by Mrs. and M
a ffemaleiss FITzGERALD, and
German attendant. , Mr. H. ADDINGToN, in his Speech on Thurs.. f. day evening respriting the Cotton Manufafturers'
I 4:etirion. did not allude in the most distant manner
`o any Member of the former Cotten committee, as
e f
rroneously stated in the Report of the Proceedings
thief-louse of Commons on that .night.
Genera
in the l DAVID DuNDAs replaces General For
fli,me District ; and Lord CoRNwALLis takes
rthe nmand in Essex and SufteHit. Sir JAMES
''-'l'l ccogoes to Kci:t. and Sussex.

IVA PAL A: &,..

t 1

FORF MOUTH, APRIL 13.—Sailed His Wes-
ty,, ship Ctiticri, for the West In-
dies, with '?bout Zo Ships under,convoy ; among
them was the Neptune, WHITE, for Jamaica also
sailed the-A/bioti, —, for Suode.rland. - '
Arrived the /In/tier-Sr TRYL from
ORSunder--
land. .

The. Martmouth Man' of. War has dropped down
tO St. Helens.
The Eurydice Friie, with the Fleet for. Oue.

bec, remains.

DEAL, APRIL r3,—His Majesty's Ships Orestes-
and Jamaica sailed on a Cruize off Boulogne,;''and
Jackal! and Minx.Gun.brigs on a Cruize oif Ca-
lais.

The Royal Charlotte East India Ship came down
from the River, and sailed, for Portsmouth.
In the Downs—MOnarch, Utrecht, Illustrious, Veteran,
Squirrel, Perseus, Vesuvius, Starling, and Basilisk.

SHEERNESS, APRIL 13.—Arrived His Majesty's
Ship Braakel, of 5o guns, and. Crescent Frigate,
Lord WM. STUART.

Sailed His Majesty's Ship Virginie, Capt. Be.
RESFOR D, for the Downs.
On Wednesday evening one of the Boats belong-
ing to the Virginie, going from the Harbour to the
Nore, being overloaded, swamped : the people,
with the exception of one man, were fortunately
saved by the Admiral's Tender, which happened to
be passing at the time.

HARWICH, Artutt. x3.—The Dcrst't Post-Office
Packet, Captain HAMILTON, arrived this morning
from Ma.rstrand, with the Gottenburg Mail, which
place he left on Saturday last.

Remain glut-Lark and Lady Nepean Packets, the
former with the Mails for Husum, and latter for
'Got enbur. ' •
We are under some apprehension'; that the Diana
,Paeket, Capt. OsgoßN, is detained at •Husum, the
wind having beVn" rirnarkably fair fol. 'Wine days,
•and'no Packet arrived.'

- • •
Mr. CORRy" takes the Supply for Ireland at Six
Millions-, ~which 1-he proposes raising there
1,250,0001. Tiiill,, provided the, price hid be under,
the rate in the sealed-up paper 'of. GOi'rertnnent,i
otherwise he means "to, raise it here r tlie,Paymcnts
to be as follow.; "and the interest .the Mareh
• ,
last, in a 5 pet cent. stock.
1804. per Cent. . '
19 April, part deposit - - 5 - - - 62, o 0
i May, regtaidingditta - 5 i-. 6ziooo
'2B May, ist.payment 10 7 J 25,000
23 June, 2d . - 15 Jame.
uly, 3d 15 127.00
1t August; 4th - - - - - 125,000
24 September, sth, - - to . 125,000
24 0 dober,' 6th - • - - 10* 7 7' '- 125,000
. 24 November, 7th - - .10 - - 125,060
17. December,,§th... -‘,"-
.19. - - 12,5,0©0

100 Z. 1,250000
The 'Disco-tint to' be on'the whole of the pay-
,
ments from the day paid up. •
The Bidding for the Irish Loan-will certainly
take place on Thursday next,. the 19011-1 of April ;
and ,that for the English Loan on 'the Thursday fol-
lowing.

We this.morning received NeW.:York PaPers.' to
the 7th ult.:. They contain no intelligence of lm..
pbrtance, and the following article,, furnished by a
-Passengerfrom..A.ux Cayes, is the only one of any
.interest.: •
" On the night of the 2 rst January,. a number. of ,
.armed Negroes and Mulattoes entered. the house of
'Mr. GhTREAUX. Linguist, and after. pillaging all
his effects, carried him our of the City, where they
'Massacred: him: with, two others,..-named BEcIJE
'and HENito. Qq the following day the Blacit..
'General, CERRULOULS, who. commanded at Aux
Cayes, published that the .murders had been com.
mined by certain. revengeful persons without -or-
ders. A 'few hours after the above publication
a massacre, 'infinitely more dreadful than the,,
first, commenced ; among the unfortunate viiiims of,
this night were M. M. StRRES.FIS, LitiGAUTRAGE, •
VIGNor, Le BERTINE,-PINEAVi'LAPORTE de
VAILLONi IVI.ARSE ILAN:MAI/UV E$ freres,.&c.. After
assassinating these, unfortunate.-men, they! pillaged,
• their housesi:.and threw their Corpses
,into the, sea.
The following day the city was comparatively trait..
quil.; but there is- reason .to-suppose that: the Ne_
grocs will ultimately butcher all the,Vrench Whites
within their ,power.. . Two,.,Ameticans. have been
massacred, Mr.. HmE..atid another.
" I; was reported at Aux f ayes, that die BlaCks
had massacred all ..the:Mite inhabitants in' the.
Cape but six, and but three
,or four:in Port Repub,
nun,- at which .pl'a*Ce• the; powder, tilagazine had
blown up, and many had been destroyed by the ex„
plosion. The ;Negroes have substituted for St.'
Domingo, '44174 -thee name which the Island ori:
ginally. bore."

. , ,

Mr. CAVENDISkI, the eldest son of Lord GEORGE,
is to be the new Member for KnareSbOrctigh, in the
room of Mr. HARE, deceased.
On Thursday last, in full Convocation, ROBERT
HALL,' Esq. LL. B. of W-adham College,
.was
unanimously elected Prime Serjeant to the Chancel-
lor and Scholars of.the University ot.Oxford.
Yesterday morning the Duke of' GbOt7C ESTER'S
Volunteers mustered near 400, fur tote purpose of
firing for eight silver medals, being one for each
company, the gift of Sir WI L LIAM PULTENEY,
Barr. and marched to Kilburn Wells, where the
same were adjudged to Corporal Cox, Privates
ROTFIWELL And PICKERING, Corporals KING and
EDES, and privates BURRELL, SALISBURY) and
BAILEY.