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had made such an impression upon his mincli . that I
even after what had fallen front two Hon. Gentle- I
then (Mr. SitertlDAN :and .I\llr....Hurcu mom): he
could not avoid saying .a few• words. Ifevef,there
was a question upon which there•ought to be but
'one heart. and feeling, and upon 'which every ivyni
hum must join in sentiment, it must .be Upon the,
One which was before the House.' . Thc.Right Hon.
• Gentleman had, in conformity to his invariable prac-
tice,
made an attack upon His Majesty's Ministers;:
he had accused them of too much precipitation on.
. this occasion, and of departing from the praEtice of
the House, by proposing an Address on the same day
that the Message was delivered. That Right Hon.
Gentleman never omitted any opportunity of making
-ea',personalattack upon His Majostyts Ministers,
and he had stated that their conduct. upon this occa-
sion in refusing information was conformable to
their.usual condat. He in the most positive nian.
ner denied the insinuation oldie Right Hon. Gen-
tleman; he challenged him, .he dared him to.the
proof of his assertion. He called upon the Right
Hon. Gentleman to state the, grounds upon which
he made such an assertion. He asked .lilm-and.the
House, whether there was. ever any .Government
more ready to give every information.' in • their
power, and to ad in every particular upon the most
Constitutional principles ? He should certainly have
felt less if the Right Hon. Gentleman had confined
himself to a peronal attack upon hint and his Right,
Hon. Colleague, but when such an' occasion. as the..
present was taken for tire purpose.of throwing: out
general insinuations, he could not resist the
nation he felt to make a few observations., :"Fle
begged, however; in the most positive and dist inft
manner to deny the charge which .had been'brought
forward by the Right- Hon. Gentreman, that the
present Ministers had adopted the practice of pro.'
posing the Address on the satire drty
,on which the
Message was. delivered. He recolleaed the time
when the 'Right Hon. Gentleman voted for Ad-,
dresses, and even for the passing of Bills on the same
day.that a Message was delivered, and haknew verY
welt whal..tvas the language whiCh the Right-Hun:
Gentlemin'would have held to 'any body w,ho,had
then•proirose'dta delay of 24 hours, Upon these oc.
casions, however, 'the Right Hon. 'GrntleMan would
consent to 'pigs a all its stases in one .day ;
he then felt none of those qualms about Order, which
now appeared to disturbhim so much. Now, how-
Hever; when sedition and rebellion broke out, in
' an instance if possible more dreadtul, :more in.
-•• fatnous than ever, now, the Right liononrable
' Gentleman had become an • advocrte for a strict
adherence --to points Of form, • whatever might
Ise the consequence. When this most lespenable
Magistrate in Ireland,' both from his'situation and
his charamer, had been , attacked 'and :b4rbarously
4nurdeted, were they to decline taking any Measures
'upon a point Of foot 1- Were they to•wair rill a few
more murders were -CltitiMitteti, before, they adopted
any decisive measures upon the subjed 1' Hi was
:sorry to detain the House upon this subjet%, but he
really conld not avoid saying a few words,• anti- he
trusted that the feelings,of almoit•• every'man .the
House would he in unison with hiaown Upon this
occasion. That many questions might arise out of
this upon which Gentlemen might wish for an in-
quiry, he did not deny; but that surely eorild.nut
lbe urged as an • argumano against the present
'Address.. he thought r the Ministers were
guilt,' Of any miscooduei, he would have means
enough of, inquiry into their conduct, wirhOto
throwing obstruftions in the way of a measure
. to which he Could state no objection. lila with
regard to the question of what was the cause,of this
calamity, or whether any blame could be 'attached
to Ministers, though it might lotto a very. proper
sullen for future discussion, yet certainly had. no
connexion with the Motion 'now before the Mouse.
The Right Hon. Gentleman 'had; by his Speech on
this occasion, done one evil, which it was not in
his I>ower to repair;'because he had prevented this
measure from being passed with general approba.
If one voice, if one feeliog, if one' spirit
was eL4r necessary upon any occasion; it was'at the
present moment, and under the present •
urcum-
, stances.
Air. ArDimm explained, lie said he had
'riot given any Opposition to the Address.
Dr. LAWRENCE said, he had not understood
Right Honourable Friend to give any oppo.
Alition.to the Motion ; and therefore great part , of
the Noble Lord's Speech was completely inapplicable.
Right Hon., Friend had' merely contended that
this was a.stibjed.wbicli ought not to he suffered to
go by without further explanation, and therefore
be thought that Ministers should give some pledge
that they would bring forward .the question for fu.
tureinvestigatiori before he agreed to this Motion.
lie deprecated the idea of dis Cussing this question,
Orr any question of this kind with.passion
the chit-
et ot the House of Commons was Wisdom, and
therefore he did out like to hear the Noble Lord
call upon them to decide this question Upon their
feelittgs or • their patisions. could not help milking,
is few observations on t I • v Lit had fallen from his.
Honourable Friend (k 1 sHERR:AN); who seemed
ty his couttuti to. '
Ride he meant to nig
it
to
leave
determined
completely to have mistaken
take. That Gentle n• n seemed
Ins Right Honot Frked. The • Honourable Gentleman 'proceeded
then shortly • " trahle
to reply to some of. the Observa. (ions of Mr. SHERIDAN in answer to Mr. WIND.
41/ost.—i-le expressed his 'astonishment that Nli-
nisters should challenge and dare any persons to
Olkte when they had with-held any communication
,fiotn the I louse—this threat -the Noble Lord had
enforced by throwing it out in a very loud tone of
Voice, and by beating the Table with great velte.
mence--but, surely,, if they recolleaed the respon.
sibility which they' admitted was thrown upon
them at the commencement of this dispute, from' the
venecatotent which they perhaps wisely
.thought it
necessary to-adopt, they certainly would not hold
such tango:iv-at present ; with regard to the question
before the House, he certainly had no intention' of
giving it the least opposition.
Lord C AniiREAGII obServed, that -.the
Learned Gentleman; 'ln. his ateetript to explain the
speech of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Windhatn)
on it proposition which was in -itself wholly, un..
7.oile,led, had only rendered that ipeceh whollY un-
He seemed to call on Ministers riot
give a pledge that they would enter into all'

explantition% that weft- neeessaty on their condu4
relative to the political affairs of treland, whenever
that be necessary, which would be -eCasonalde
enough, •bet also to call on-the House to retard its
proceedings, unless. Ministers acknowledged their
own criminality,' a thing shatiwas'absurn upon the
face of it.: .Ministers were ready to meet any charge
that could be, brought against them, and he hoped
they always would be so; but that they should ;td.
snit their own criminality, and allow that hare ac.
cusation, without the shadow of proof, should be
'taken its prima fade evidence against them; was. a
'thing so preposterous, that the House could not'be
entertaioed by hearing it dismissed. This was -a
charge that was doublyinconSisteht ; irwas incon. I
sistent in the way in which it hadsbeekmade by
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr, Witostaa4), andsl
rendered still more so by the manner it had been I
attempted to be'enforced by the'learned• Gentle-
man. It was a charge which was in itself unfounds
.ett, and the absurdity of it was made still more ma-
:nifest by the manner in which it had .been endea.
voured to be supported. He liStened to the Propo-
sition of the Right Hotl. Gentleman with great stir.
prise-, misted:With strong indignation, for lie should' I
not have conceived, if he had not heard it, ,that the
Right Hao.'Gentletriari could have made such coin.
meets on the ipeeclt of his Right Min. Friend (the
CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUIR'.) The
wpuld recolleft what was the whole ofthe ohjedion
of ,the Right Hen. Gentleman to the present pro.
cecding 'of His Majesty's Government, and compare
iaswitla-the,condutt of that Right ision.'Gentlemite
himself when be made a part of the Executive Go-
vernment.. Here the Right HoP.,Gentlenian did not
objet to the policy el the measure 'offered to the
House, but interposed certain pradicallornis in the
way of its prompt execution, a course which he had ,
most furioUsly reprobated on former occasions, and •
cansidered' as most mischievoils 'when opposed to a
Measure which ;was sound ire policy,end when much
of its merit consisted in 'the readineSs of its extfeu- •
fiats; and now, when a measure was proposed, .to
the policy of which the Right Hop. Gentleman him,
self did not object, and which 'obviously admitted '•
of no delay, the Right Hon. Gentle Men, started a
point 'of form, . and offered it as a reason 'against
proceeding upon it, and all this •because the Right •
I-lon. Gentleman had discovered on e,sudden that
this was contrary to the common usage aed pradiee
of Parliament, and that too contrary to his own eX. ‘.l
press sentiments, enforced by his' practice when he
was one of the Ministers of this Country. But in. ;
deed, independent of the authority of the: Right
Huts.. Gentleman's former pradice, a tolerable an.
s war to his present theory oti the procceditiw of the
House, was, that it was not ueusual 'to return to
the Throne an answer to its communication on the
day it was received by that House; it had indeed
been considered PerfeeliY proper to do "so, when it
was Obviously necessary to take care that no time
should be lost, and that was 'really the whole of the
.case now before 'the House. Here was a gracious
Measage from • His Majesty' so the House, end all
that was proposed, by the Address was to aCknow-
ledge' His Majesty's gracious aanumnication, and
to assure His Majesty that the Howe, 'would lose no
tune in devising means, or taking such measures as
Silty appeai besttr the purpose to which that Coin.
inunicatiOn alluded ; sind'hOw any objeditin could
be offered to this he was at a loss to conceive, and
that the Mote especially on the stibjek!'t t. 0, nig
I the measure, when a considerable east of its essen.
tial merit depended quo its , pratoptness.
Right Hop. Gentleman had in the 'course' of his
charges against Goverement, alledged that the Ca.
pitai of Ireland had been within in ace of being
• lost; that .was, of falling into"the hands of rebels.
‘Vhere,:the Right llon.GentleMati,found that fad,-
' he was not able to discuier; he would venture to:
I say, that no such fgt had come to 'his knowledge;
nor was the Right Hon. Gentleman justified in sup-
posing that aim was altogethcr a surprise on His
l\ilaje sty "siqovertirtient,- fee they had been employed
► devising souse means' atgaitist it e nor would the
• or,
'Hon. Gentleman find, upon recolledion that-an
, y
"'" ' I-I'G
person in Majesty's overnment had latelyiliehl
riot to Psrliament or tin: that there• Ats ''tr
such thing as disloyalty to be found in-any'part of
Ireland. • It, was very true that some persons, in
the warmth of their patriotic feelings, Jnight 7have
said that the whole of-that Country was become
.extremely loysil;' this was no. more than .a general
defed in Melt-tit-as of the best disposed men, that
'of suffering' their wishes to influence their .judg.'
;merits, and attributing soundness to the, whole body,
when upon close inspedion they might find some:
parts to be unsound. Here however he was anxious
~,to be properly understood ; it was to a part of Lre.
, land only he meant to attribute this unsoundness.
He did nut' think that the disloyalty there was
-increased of late I •on the contrary, he believed
'that the public temper of that Country had materially
improved since the rebellion there, and that much of
the improvenient of that Country was owing to-the
Union, but to say that the whole of it was perfedly
, loyal and sound would be preposterous—abat was
nor to be expeded, not would that be a true pic-
,ture of this Country throughout the whole of the
last War. This Country had discovered a disposi-
tionsimd at one time a very serious one, to Rebel..
lion, as appeared in our Fleet, so,that this Country
had not always bean perfedly free from taint, and
we' had only to recoiled these things, and also to
recoiled what (IMAM the wisdom of Parliament de-
vised in order to quiet our alarms upon this oi:ca-
stout; for although we found in that Codtatiy or in
this, a wicked knot: of individuals, we kn'ew how
.10 follow, them up with precautionary tneaSures as
we had done before ; but we were nut thersfore, to
rutl away with the idea, that because:Treasoe .was
apparent in some part of Ireland, that shine WaS ISO
attachment in that Country to tteGovernmeot ; the
truth was, that the attachment of that Country to
this_ was • very general, and indeed :nothing nee(
better, proof of this. than the very measure which
was .now afore ~the House.: Taking the ivied,of
this_coo into, coosideration, he could not :help '
pressipgbis.aurprize at the sentiments delivered by
the Rigla. Hon. Gentleman who had, in the fellness
of his loyalty, overlookeil Live lecture of: this case,
for he had opposed to the measure which OepeOded-
much upon texpedi riono pradtee,by whiCh it itti'4llt
be impeded, :nal which pradice he hips&
wheo'helcV in ci/illpilitiUrt .with the nsccssi:y of a

case, NIA that tOo on a stibleo., the Le- of
which the Right 1-lon. Gentleman himself aelcntiw-
ledged, did not admit. of any debate ; and in teed
it was impossible to say. thati properly 'speaking,
this Address *Mild admit of any debate; Wheii
the safety of the State, which was the first con.
'sideration, teas provided for, if the Right Hon.
Gentleman could find any ground ,for criminating
Mbii,ters, it was his duty, and he seemed not dis_
inclined to execute it, to bring Ministers. to ac.
mint, and when he did, they would not he
ling, nor, he hoped unable, to meet him, ,
Dr. LAWRENCE explained, and said, hi' did,
not state any; thing of an inquiry into the conduft
of Ministers as to any `charge that might be ex.
hibited against them ; sill he required `Vas • full' in-
formation on the state.of Ireland, for the safety of
Ireland was dearer to him than an inquiry into the
!crimes or the defeds of any Minister whatever.
Mr. ALEXANDER said a few wor.is on the
:sobjed of the late Rebellion, and 'tin the wisdom
of the measures of Parliament for its suppression.
Mr. E A‘R IA 'observed upon the Speech of Mr.
WiNDHAM, who had not,' he said, argued on the.
impropriety of assenting to the Motion rt:)w before
the 1-louse, but who had urged the 4.ropriety of
saying a good deal more titan had been said by the
Minister In bringing the matter for Ward, but.he
' did not think that what .wassaid by the Right. Hon.
Gentleman called for the fury ,Which took place- in
opposition to him. It .was said that the Right
lion. Gentleman had advanced no argument on this
oeca'4ion; now, whether what he urged .was soen4.l
argument or not, he would not pretend to say ; it
certainly had that appearance to him. If this was
a, question to be determined by reason, there was
good sense in taking time to consider it, if there
was any doubt about the matter ; but if it was a
question to be decided by feelings, it had been
already'debated toti long. if this Address was.not
to he instantly foll Owed up by some measure, he
could not see where the'necessity was for this dis.
patch. But if some measure was
.immediately to
follow it, then dispatch •might be an olsjzd. But
trout what appeared hitherto, he thOught delibera.
Lion would be better than precipitancy,. and he in.
dined to be of the same opinion as the Right Hon.
Gentleman, to whom the HouseWasmore indebted
than perhaps any'. other man in it. .

r/P.Ci11i.41..E idiotic(' to what he had said
on•former tyccasians tesped to the Loyalty of
the People of Ireland. = He did not say that the
state of Ireland was pettedly s4le, but that it was
tranquil compared to what it had .that the
commercial prosperity of it was greatly increased,
and that there was every reason to believe that the
people of Irelati'd were much better satisfied than.
they had been, and this did not appear to him to be'
unrcasonab;e; that was all that he had. said. It he
had.deScribed the charaaer of Bonaparte, that he
had disgusted the Catholics of the North of Ire.
tam, and had not pleased the Protestants of the
South,. and therefore that he thought Ireland would
'unite.against him ; and if he had been. deceived in
some part of his• predilion, he was sorry fur it
hut no Gentleman would wish to dwell lor4g on
the sell.hundliation ofConfessig his mistake. 'Here
he alluded to the patriotic condua °fan Honourable
Gentleman , opposite to hint (Mr. Sll R !mi) who
had distinguished ltimielf by that spit it to,night..---
Nc observed, that that Gentleman had on various
occasions strewn the RUC spirit Of 'a patriot ; on the
!day when the Mutiny at the Nore Was announced
in that House, that Urn. 'Member had come for.
.ward in 'support of Goernment, without any re.
.gard to party spirit, and upon all occasions of great
and trying emergency he had been a true, friend to
his Kkg and.COuntry,—("'thar ! Hear 1 !liar"
from the. C*sisrellor of the Exchequer and some
other Gentlemen near him.). He' then expatiated
on the execrable.prineiples of France, upto which
the Rebellion in' Ireland Was 'founded. He sup-
ported the present measure, disapproved of the Sett-
riirieots littered to.night by Mr. WINDHAM, ,and
couclUded with saying they:might, if persiSted'in,
do Ireland much ham', and could, do England no
(rood.
a
The qtietion was- then put on. the Addreke; and
carried rem. con..

The CHANCELLOR of the EA:CHEQUER
then brought up from the :Bar a Copy. of the' Pro.
clamation Issued by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland,
which he said. he was 'commanded by Ins Majesty
to lay before the House.
The Proclamation being read, I
The CH AACIE ALOR of the EXCHEQUER;
said, that the House having heard the Prnclatna. '
tion,•inust have observettlijaLlio
ii stated
whliatetc
.Here,tlinurrl inge
s
committed in the City otf
'the opinion, of those by.whose advice the Procla-
mation was issued, the: result of a 'dangerous
conspiracy against His. Majesty's Government in
Leland. He said he was fully aware that he should
not have been justified, nor should any consider.
ation have induced him to propose
.such a measure
as that which he now felt it his indispensible, ttuty
to submit- to rite consideration of the it the
outrages which took plaee, alluded to. in that Pro.
clamation, had not been such as omit appear' to
every well.cenditioned mind part of a systetn '
direled against the public safety. of Ireland. On.
less this had' been so; he admitted that he 'could not
be justified in the measure he was about to propose,
for however great the atrocities stated in the
Proclatnation were, they furnished of them,elves,
and uncomieded with other matter, no-ground icr if
restraining the general liberty of the'sob.o, in in.
fringing on the principles • of the Con,:iitution Yir
the Country. Bur there wai,.a connettion.brlween
these atrocties and other qvdtgrss. tulL the
measure he was about„lo propose. ,flYttf;tfielY fleeeit-
sary; for • although the Proclamation • aveyeili
with perfeet multi :only that t here did •exiiitin
Ireland a
,traitorous conspiracy, there were,no
proofs with which the House could be furnished
nputi that .bubji:6L, But there were occasions. Which,
when. they 4xturred, were to .he ?greeted, which
were distressing to those who'proposed =measures
upon them, for they,ha4 to 'state these minters to
the Honse in general terms, omitting the detail of
What they knew, subje4l, however, to responsibi-
lity, if the fa4ts should Ultimately turn out tint to
warrant the measures „they Rrup.ogedi, andt)y,which
a material part of the Constitution of thiFeouhtry,
and the Established . Law of the 'Land; was taken

away fat a time; but the fans here cane 4 for the
Measure he was about to propose. His regard for
the public s ifety made it lus indispensible,dury to
series;; this measure loess/rod. The fans stifted in 'the -
Proelimation itself were alarming; buto he Proela.,
mation did net contain all that was in possession ef'
1 Government ; they hail much information,. which
I "eonld note at present, be disclosed ; end ehe tnea.
sure lie had to propose,' he should propose the stints.
tiOn of before the House, should separate. It had
, .been said 'by an Honourable. Gentleman in the;
Honse, that if any applitation was 'made for re,
join,. or for the redret4; of a grievance, however
:necesiary the redress itself might be, yet if it was.
made at the point of the bayonet, with the point of
the bayonet iihouid such an epplicatiOn be answered.
'He thought so too; but if any thing could be ac-
complished. by our Law, Without having recourse
to military force, he should always be glad of it;
because that Was the course which was most con.
genial to our feelings, and confer:n:llde to our prac.
tire. He had always deplored the necessity of re.
sorting'toehe measure he was now about to propose,
which was, to give power to the ExeeUtive Go_
vernment to secure and detain such persons as shall
be suspe.led of conspiring against His Majesty's
~. Person and Goverment. As to the:duration Of the
Measure; he could at relent say nothing more than'
that it 'should be cotemeosnrate with its necessity.
The measure which he had first to propose, and
Which he proposed with relunance; hnd even regret,
was, according to the title of the Bill, for the pur.
pose of suppressing Rebellion in Ireland, and for the
protenion of the persons And property of His Ma.
jesty's faithful subjenrethere. It was to he observed
that thiS Motion, however severe it might appear
to sante, was strietly constitutional. Power was
to be given to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to
proclaim Martial Law ; a power which the Crown
possessed in virtue of its prerogative in time of
aCtual Rebellion, or of Invasion. But in this case,
the Martial Law was not to be unlimited ; for a
power was to be given to' the Lord Lieutenant, by
which the ordinary Admini•tration of justice would
I be preset ved ; and this power was to be exercised
I only 'for the purpose of suppressing antral Rebellion ;
that Wei to 'say, persons charged with admit 'Re-
belliee shoold be tried by Courts Martial, and, as
he hail observeed already', this was no more, or rather
lie Shoidd say it was nrui;h less, than the power already
possessed by the Crown, in case either of Itivrision or
Rebellian, and what was here :proposed was the
effect of absolute necessity, and this he' stated to
obviate ohjenions to the Measure. 'He had to ob.
serve, that if this measure was adopted; he intend.
ed to follow it up with a motion fur leave to bring
in a Bill for the suspension of the Habeas Corpus
AA in Leland. Under this Bill power would be
given to the 'Lord Lieutenant to try all persons
who shall be charged with Rebellion, under Mar.
tial Law. .Hedid not wish to ,extend the power of
trying' all persons whom Government shall secure
' and th.taitl upon suspicion by 'Martial Law. He
wished to:preserve, wherever that was leVlSiblei
' the admieisteation of civil juitice. Therefore to
preserve that practice, it was necessary to suspend
the Habeas Corpus, 'for, otherwise, persons sus.
petted ,must be Apprehended -by' military warrant.
Having stated the ground on which he had to Oro.
pose these measures to the House, he proceeded to
take a view of the conduct of leord Hardwicke in
Ireland; which he praised highly. ' He said, thet as
soon as the Rebellion was over, that Noble Lord
had restored to the people' of Ireland- the advantages
-of Civil justice, and the purity of a free Constidte
don, which some persons there had most initetii.
musty abused. Since that period 'a great and csi.
tient charaeter (the Earl of CLARP), who presided
Over the Law: of that Country, had been succeeded
by a person 'who once tided the Chair of that House
(Lord Redestisle), .of whom 'he would not say any
thing, beer:ilk of himrthere was but one opinion in
' that House,' as well as in Ireland, and that was the
very highest. Lord HardWieke had had far the
last year the beriefit of the advice of that Noble
tatd, and wooldieontinue to haVe that advice, and
.thereforeethere i was every pledge that the Hone
I .could t-visle to have- for Ito: moderate and disereet
1 use of the ,poWer now proposed to he lodged ivith
I 'the Lard lieutenant of Ireland ; the House usirthr
. ty
test' assured that nothing would be clone unneeectioi.
ly. hoStile TtO else priticiples of U free Constitution.
He then' proceeded to olis,:rve,that some of the doc.
. trine he had heard tonight was perfeeily new. When
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. WI konAiss) talked
F, of theenanice date House beingagainst the mode
now proposed, he seemed to overlook altogether the
necessity of the measure,. at)d his attachment to fortis
114(1 got the better even eif his recollection, for he,
I himself, when in Administration, had insisted on pas.
sing :in Ad like the preeot,'precisely in the manner
now proposed.; He did eot mean to say these had
not been Marty iSlit:thees in which the House lied
'deferred to aeoilte?'o.iiy the cerktleratitto of a Ms»
sage from His Majesty, end that the prattice wat
generally' so, but 4rl cases of pr(e,si ng necessity, such
'as nobody" doubted this to be, there were nemeroos
precedents fiat* taking a Comemnieation from His
Majesty info ''consideration imniediately ; and he
had no difficulty in rtpeating what had already been
;said, ' that if' this measure ought to he adopted at
all,. it ought to be adapted without delay. He
thetelore should hope, that without discussing r' ;
bet leaving to be discussed at 'any convenient' op?
'A'
op.
portainity, the c truthet 'of' -all or any part of His
' ,Niajsty's ,Goveroment, bur from a con v iEtion of
the public; necessity of the ?Hog, these measures
would be adopted by the Hoos'e ; but he would not
uilc without, taking, rutriee of the condun of an
Hon. Geetletnati, who had' -distinguished ' himself
now its well as set m.,py otb,C c w:caolcini ( Mr. SH e.
~.ktors),-whose 'conduct was indeed very different
frier) some, others who had spoken on this needs on.
TrieWo,Gentleinan to whom he alluded, had, on
menye9CeallUill, tiafr*cid Shell paints of party feel.
log tr't he rood of the Public, and had manifested the
true 'spirit of APatriot. - Such was the cherafter of
his cOOdn‘at,elte time of the Mutiny at the Noree
Such also Wasonisit conspicu'ously his conduct its the
discussion' of the question 'bet ‘Veeti this Country and
the Northern POwers; :Such was his condun also
on the first discussion of the Contest in which see
:ire . now engaged. The 'words which the Hon,
Gentlolan had '
used tvereanetrutrable ; " Let u cat.
eidervoot who is the Minister, but where is the

4 ';4l:'

'fV :

f7.nrtri7."p—That' was Ole,: artgrtage or a trtyt
1.•
r1(7(„. t1()E the h;Jprinc e cis ittiqwl,; • 2•.tt;,it
Gctitletnap y .
ahs, rt that he highly
ty to Lett his pulittc.,l coodua ‘t Soie.ll.
io the i.itg,c of lllstory ; vyt:.4tvea",sottve,
1,f,,r,„,,n„, vt hi)opir)sed hint the lillC fill.
rite ptil)lic principle. lie there to ."-
'l:2avtr it,' given to hr io a 11111 .
tlt :ficip,pressin
of iteiveliion Irchod, ',lnd for the proteetioo.
th, per,,ons and property of ffi9 Majesty's faithful
Salij-tl, there." • , . •
Mr. WiNociAm said a few wont. in e*planatiqn
PPIND/Hiti observed, that Ministers had
rprealed those L•itvs, for the re-emit:lnvent of whicit
tlicy ol.w called tor. It waa a question whether

they had not been improperly re:pealed, for as:it'
might be said, tpat tusking the Peitce was the cause
Of the Prese..j War, so it might also W,,said, that
the repeal of those Laws was the cause of their
being now again ena&d.
The CHANCELLWZ of the 4,I7CII6.—QUER
said, thit the Mattial Law Bill had not;been re.
pealed,quit had been suffered to expire.
Mr. SHERRI AN said, that whatever Might be.
said by the Right Hun. C'entleman (iVhr. WIND.
ttAta) or the Honourable and Learned Gentleman
(Dr. LAWRENCE) he defied them to prove any in.
cOnsktency its his Public conduat As to any par.
ticular
,side,- the Right lion. Geri:le:ban Wife better
acquainted with sides than 'he was, as the Right
Ho,t. Gentleman had sat op all sides ; first he
iutd sat un ibis side (The Opposition Bench) till he
was: tired .of it, then he went, over 41 that side
'(rk Treasury Bench) and sat there till ht could
sir there no longer, and at last te went upon a sort
of triangithr line to the scat where, the Right Hon.:
Centktrimi now sat. He had in general supported
the measures of 'the'present Adiniuistration, because
he thought they atted upon a constitutional prin.
; thete was only one a6l of theirs' which he
condemned, and that was the At of Indemnity for
tie misconduti of , that Right Hon. Gentleinan (Mr.
WiNn.HAst) And his colleagues. Whilst :Ministers
preserved a similar line of conduet,:ithey should
experience his most disinterested sultporr,
Mr. liwwTooarts strongly supported the pro.
posed measure, and praised the conciliatory conduel
adopted by the preterit Ministers with rrspen to
jrtiond, which he thought had been of the highest
,Ht; obiehed to an expression used by, an
Hint. Gentleman (Mr. Hu rCit 24)00, with respect
to the condiOt that might to be adJptcd towards
Rebek in arms.
Mt. CARR followed on the saute side: he thought
diem was a great alteration fop the better in Ile.
ha„d, though he did not mean to say dust the seeds
rrh 11,44:11ion might not be still lurking in that
Country.
Mr. IIAwKINs BRowNR ripreScra his apprpha_
tiOn of the measure, and thought there ought not to
be a imOetli's dchy in carrying it ibto circa.
Mr. iIUIC/UNSON sAd, he meant to state,
anti he repeated the expression,. that Rebels under
anus ought not to be tenyuriztd with. :1-le Liment_
ed the necessity that existed fur the present Inej,Ure,
t‘ hick should have, however, his hearty suiport.
At the sante tune, he thought it of inittance that
the powers given by the propoted Bill should only
ever:h.d to those Distri&s into which it was
allsolutely necessary that it should be extended, as
under the Lot Martial-Law Bill considerable op.
pression was exercised.
tvlr. HA vertiou,N and Mr. HUTCHINSON several.
ly explained.
Lord GASTLEREAGII said, that one of the

rear advantages of the present measure was, •that it
gave a discretionary power to the first Authority in
s Ireland, to carry it into execution whenever it tsp.
geared to be necessary. This he considered, as the
best security that the proposed Law would not be
• -ebi.ed. With respal to what ;had been al-
41;led to by the Hon Gentletnan (Mr. UuTcsittr.
soN) as to the oppression exercised in Ireland,
• undcr the late exercise of 'Martial Law, it must
siriice the House, that where two parties were armed
ag.tin,t each other, it was imptisible to prevent
v;v:ct,it'ti from being committed. The prrstot Inca,
sure dal out go so take 'away from. the lqyal the
ptatettion of the Civil Law, but only to autho.
ria-the prochinotion of Martial Laws whesc it
ought to be exercised, which applied,• to what had
beer, obierved by the Him. Gentleman (Mr. HUT.
CHI ',NON), as Martial Law would only be pro.
e,sinseti in those diatti4t3 where circumstances re.
quires! it. ,

Dr. LAwttsYcß supported
Colonel CIAWrOM f) rose, • and was. proceeding to
make obset 'resticeting the general Defence
of the Country, when he was called to order by
Mr. f3R OW NR IGO. who con'siderrd such Minerva.
tions as inarplicable to the questiol before. the
Vow, which opinion---The StEAK k agreed.
A short Convers4tion n,u, d,, ire -,vhiclt Mr.
NV N ard 17r. LAwit Nf s :contended, that
Cobioei CK AWFORD was in order, the Insurreetion
In Irriand being 'connected with invasion, and
therel'ore with the General Defence of the Country.
. Mr. lilt AGO t urged several 'Arguments. . to
piove, !liar the train of observation.,gone into. t:iy
Col. CiAwFoßo was out of order, .as nor ap-
plyit to the questi:,n, which telatid metely to

C•ricrnel CRAW FORD, declined Proceeding any
further.

Thi question was then put, stalleave was given
tit brit% in the 'PH nemint toittradifey*,
Kati ther brought up by the.CHANcim.
t.)f t,t thr EXctirQugo, read a first And second
time, anti committed.
1.11. the enintuittee, the Comstimt.o4 o( the
17,xcit t.co F R ohierved, that tonne 0bj..43/4iorts had
linen triode on a former vecasions' to the outniiie
of wi'lth H Coati. Martial might tomtits untler the
then Martial Law Bill. fie should flow propose,
that not lots titan seven poisons should coottittite
a. Contt Martial, and also that the 'should
only continue till Six; weeks niter the commodes..
merit of the next' Session of Parliament.
Mr. Fit ANC It thriOglit there ought to be a PIG.
-vision, that no person ought to tit on it Crotrt-114ar.
ti al; who was tititirr t%% enty.oue years of age.
1401,1CASTLERFACII "'atilt, that there' was tin
iostettice, hr heli:ved, of any l erion sitting in 3
(:,ortMattial under that age.
conv_ets4tsirt tosueti betsPecn Mr. .1-itar.

St;tnc..

We -this morning received fresh, advice* from
Dublin, dated the evening 'of the -25th. We are
happy in being able to state, that nothing inateri4
had occurred 'since Sunday morning, and that the
exertions of the Government had ,been wonderful,
and attended with the good -eireets which their
promptitude and vigour could not hut ensure. The
Yeomanry had turned out in great force--and the
Volunteer Cbrps were hourly receiving • additional
strength. The Privy Council had issued &rations
to the Generals of Districts, to order all persons
found with Arms in their hands to be executed.
Souse apprehensions, we understand, were enter.
taitled at Belfast, but nothing serious.was attempt.
tbere. It was yesterday reported, that a Battle
had been fought in the County of Kildsre, 'between
the Military and the-Rebeis, in which Cie latter had
been defeated with the loss of loots rrsen, whilst that
on the part of .the Regulars amounted only to forty.
This report rested upon too vague an authority to
be yesterday stated by .us, and we thiflk our.
selves right in having with.held it ; for though
a disturbance, teems to have taken place in a
part of that Cotinty, yet' it teitaiidy did not
amount to any thing like the report circulated ; and
our letters received this morning state nothing of it.
We yesterday stared, that a:Message would be
dchveied from", Hie .MAJ KSTY in emsequence of the
recent events in Ireland. The Message was deli.
vcred accordingly, and it will be seen that vigo.
Inns measures have beers the result. • 'Two Bills

• were brought in, 'the one for authorizing the Loßn
Lt EUTENANT to proclaim Martial Law in such
.1
Distriets'as should to him seem to require it ; and
the other for the Suspension of the Halms Corpus.
AB. The established forms of both Houses, with
resped to the passing of Bills, were upon this occa-
sion wisely dispensed with, and both Bills passed
both Houses last night, and received the Royal As.
sent this day. '!:'
These necessary' and vigorous measures will, we
doubt nor, have. every effed which is expeeted
from' them. We can hardly entertain a doubt but
that this attempt in Dublin was a concerted
plan to feel the pulse of the Metropolis" and that
though no Leaders of any consequence appeared,
these exist in the Country. It appears, indeed,
from our advices this morning, that the plan has
been in the course of organization for the last eight
months. The vigilance and exertion, however,
which the discovery of it will of course create in
the Government and loyal Inhabitants of Ireland,
will, we have no doobt, tend completely to disor.
ganize and defeat the plans of the rebellious; and it 14
perhaps a subjeilofcongratulatiOn to theCowntry,that
they should have been discovered so soon. The Fo.
reign Enemy can derive little advantage tram the
late event, though he dray perhaps encouragement
in hit projeEted plan of Invasion. But in proportion
to our difficulties and the pressure of our danger,
the native spirit 'of Englishmen will rise, and when
it is roused, which we trust It now is to a level
with that danger, we have little to apprehend.
Under the Dublin head will be found the most
accurate detail of the occurrences of Saturday night.
The amiable and unfortunate Colonel Baowrix, of
the atst,was murdered, we under:land, in passini,
from his lodgings to the llarra,.ks upon the 'drums
belting to arms. He has left a Widuw and :Child
behind hint.

1.

ADMIR/ILTY OFFICE. •
SIR, yuy
I have had the holvnir of receivin;s, 4803.
g your let ter
.of the 223 iost. ihtbhiug a letter oto you from the
Seafaring, Men of Dial, containing an:Offer of their
services and •of their Boats in einb,irking and
dis-
embarking huch Troop 4 as may be ordered to
that place for the purpose of being employed against
the Enemy, free of any expence to Government, and
likewise to have tl;e following Boats fitted up, as
under, viz.
30 with an to pound carretiacw, and.
as with a twelve pounder ;
To be manned and worked by themselves, bnt to be
fitted and provided at the expence of the Public,
and in case of aatial Invasion to futnbdr an addi.
tional too men for any purpose that may he wanted.
I lost no time in laying the same before my Lords
Commissioners of the Admiralty, -and I have re-_
ceived their Lordships' commands to acquaint you,
that they feel the greatest satisfadion fr..)..n the
loyalty and zeal which has been manifested by tile
Seafaring Men of Deal on the present occasion, and
that they ate pleased to accept their offer on the
c,mtlitions they have proposed.
1 have their Lordships' further commands to re.
quest you will do them the faroar of communicating
to the parties: their Lordships' determination on this
head, and the high sense they are pleased to entertain
of their meritotious condua, informing them at the
same time, that' they have desired the Board of
Ordnance to cause the Boats above mentioned to be
supplied with Carronades, and to provide the ne.
cessary ammunition for their use, and their Lord.
ships will,dired the Navy Board to fit them.
I have, arc.
(Sipa!) NEPEAL Rigby Km. W. P TT, York-pike.

Yesterday, soon after two o'clock, His MAJtt.
TY unexpeEtedly arrived at Buckingham House, at
which tittle a Privy Council was sitting at the
Cockpit. About three 'o'clock Mr. Aoutscrom
irrived at BuckiogNani House, and laid before His
MAJsfiTy the ,resttlt .; he remained in comitltatiop
with His MAJESTY till .near tour ()Mock, when
His MAje!..ry's dinner was served op; and at, halt
past four o'clock Hu MAII.Ty set aftOr Windsor.
• This morning at one•iisclock Colonel TAYLOR
left his house in Spring Gardens for Caroterbury, in
order to insped the Coast..

As might naturally.be expeded, the Funds par.
took of the sensation which the accounts froM Dub.
lin could not fail to prodUce. The .3 per Cent.
Consols fell at one time .to sof, andOmnium to
but they rallied again a little, and left off; the fur.
mer at sr, and the latter at tr. This morning they
were a little improved, Consols sib Quoins. tl,
4
The St. Mary.le.bone Association had 'a very
full meeting last' night at the Court House. .Up.
wards of six hundred were present, when Lord
DUNCANNON, eldest son of the Earl of limo.
ROUGH, was elefted Colonel.
It is with much pleasure we hear that such has
been the spirit and loyalty of the
,Gentlemen and•
yeomvtry of the County of Salop,
that a Regiment
of Volunteer,lnfantry, offered 'to Hrs MAJESTY' by,
Mr. kitrAitOts Pow et t., and graciously accepted,
has been raised and completed In a few days. It
was yesterday mentioned, that informed/61%114d
consists oltixteen companies of eighty
men each.
Is
been given of a manor:tante of pikes, Ste. The
circumstance was briefly this :...../nformation
was
received by the Right Hon, the T ..ORD MAYOR, that
a' Smith was secretly making R large quantity of
pin. •
kes His Lordship, with his intuit ettivity, had
the man brought before him, when it aed that
he was executing a. large order for hoarding pikes.
for the use of the East India Company. and' em.
Corn
Flayed by a very respee6ble ship.chandler in Wap. ping. Every thing was pettedly clear anti lath.
ladory to his Lordship.
The Wheat Harvest commenced on
in several parts of Essex and Nutfulk.

DUBLIN, Juty z,. r

_ .
AT a period when the minds of. the people of tlo-
Country might justly have been opposed- corrva.,, •
ed and enlightened by refleCtion on events wh,eft,
have passed, and are daily passing in -review before .
them, it must have appeared extremely rentOrte frau
probability, that a fatuitous and 11 igitious plan of
insurreaton ,and murder, under pretences of esta-
•blishing-a• perk& system of GJvern:nent, could
have found.partisans among the most wicked and
weak of the Inhabitants. Notwithstanding this
improbability; the overt.aels of Rebellion exhibited'
on Saturday night, demonstrate that there still are
men so abandoned in principle, as to he influenced
to deeds of the greatest desperation and enormity by
prospeas 'of eonfusion and plunder.
A digested conspiracy against the State, though
so little -thought of (and which Governin-!nt seems
not to have been acquainted with till ntady the-
moment of explosion), appears front a Prod:mi.,
don, many thousands of which were ready fur.
publication by the Insurgents, to have beta hatch-
' mg these eight months, and magazines were formed
in the City, front two of which, one in a passage,
bran Ching off from Ditty-lane, Thomas-street, aid
another in Vicar-street, pikes to the amoutit of se-
veral car loads, chevaux de frir.ie, machines for:,
manufacturing gunpowder, some powder, hullers :11
green pantaloons, a green laced regimental Coit:
seemingly intended fa a'l.,,•ader, a courle of hel.
tnets and osqielt plumes, with a consider.ible roan.
city of bread, &c. were removed by the ) conicity
and military.

Siturday night was applinted as the pet iod for
bringing this new revyluti,m4ry experiment tcs'
issue. It was nberved, that in the environs ti Elio
Town, toward the Liberty side, an unticual.num....
her of countrymen thronged the public houses id
the afternoon of that day ; many of thn4e itersonly; from subsequent circumstances, are iirnlitted to
have enter d iota the conspiracy., witting. ti,e covet
of night for a junlion with the .liiurgents of this
ofVlredtzletanitis.apple;ar.ei..,iet,tlideurrivnegnitriigleaorv::!cee.(i4:l.llC:l(l):,
Ch lel Mag is t rat e at Cie (2,v-deo-tipped ;it the Nlay,n.
altyi4otr,e, and on th,, door being opened, they j.
wild; some associates, who lay peOw: for the !Tr-
pose, 'rushed in o the hall, and sei;:d on all
arms
,to be found there, with which they g'it.
unimpe,ded, •

t3rt,ween nine and-ten, after cancerted notices,
the banditti, armed with pikes and oth. r weii%ons•
issued in 'considerable numbers from their corceal•
meta, and quick:). gave' horrid testimony of the
sp4ics of rule by syll'ch such Legislators wouid
govern. One of their early ads wa. tile murder,
~f Lord KILWAALIM, and his Nephew, the Rev.
Mr,itteti, WoLktr, whs, were returning. I.mM hia
I..intdutisp's country sear, drawn from thence, it
was. yesterday reported, by a forged Message: the'
venerable Nobleman and his relative were dragged •
from the carriage, and so cruelly wounded with
pikes, that they survived but a slyart time after,
though 4 we ate informed,' long enough to identify •
three of the m meters eeneetned in the sanguinarr
transeEtion. Two Yeomen about- to.
corps experienced
.in a similar manner the merett.ss
disposition of the Rebels: Cu). Bitowlv of the 2 /st
regiment, and two Privates of the Military, also
fell vidims to their inhumanity ; and two or three
yeomen were grievously wounded.
By this time the alarm was generally commoni.
cued, and the veteran S cf James's-street,
the Liberty Rangers, other Yeomen and Military
Bodies, were quickly at the scene of those dreadful
proceedings, A spirind attack commenced Ott the
banditti, several of v.•;ittm having laden, the re-
mainder threw away sittic weapons, endcav(turing
to escape by all the avenues, open to them. A COr.
siderable number have been made pri,uners, wb°
are lodged in the Barra( k and eltetvitere. • '
During the whole of ye.,tollity the totnott
vity prevailed among the Regulars 40 Yeomanry,:
the latter appeared in peat force, 4,9,1 d ha.ve• of
quired since the Insurtxtion considerable auguletk
tation.

Some unpleasant reports from Ennis, which- We
hope to find destitute of foundation,, prevailed Y".
ter,biy. Many familiei,,confiding in the secaritY
of the Ctpitai, are pouring in from: various quartet'
of the Country.
The LIM-Mayor has issued a Proclamation, 'in
whic4 the Inhabitants are enjoined to keep
their houses, until tranquillity is eitablishei, alter
the hour of eight in the evening.
• . 'A.t four o'ciuck yesterday the remains of TPi
,Rit-wAttouv and his Nephew, attended by a gil.":11
were. brought from Viee,r.street in two nears—,
temporary bhells, to the house of Lord NotToN,
Dawson.street, where they are to remain watiOeit,
Interment. Nothing was heard duiing the otfee
int rrik-ethion hot mingled sentimr ors of, totr'''''
for the deceabed, and indignation, against their 63'
vage murderers.

The daughter of Lord
.K ILWAR DEN was withbct
father ut the titne of the barbarous at c4.ck bi")/
but escaped without personal ir!jury,

CORN LICCIMNGE, JULY 29.

THE :Market to day is well supplied "'"lh
Wheat ; Sales are heavy, w:t.i but few Kuper
%
&Hey, with Malt, continues in the Lite st.oe;
of loth kinds of Beans rind P.:,lse are at l: t' le "r 1".
,tiotti we are almost withoutfurilv!r surcly of ("11-
and. none of hest quality ; 0.6 article futly
tains the price?, and many cargoes expea,2,l;
ka, plenty, and not much business doing.
Wheat 4Ss a 54s a 57s od Tick Beans - 254 3,:,
Fiat ditto . 5Si a sgs 6dl Oats - 23
Rye . 32$ 3SS Po!anl ditto -
Rye
. 204 ai zis Rant Seed -
Malt . sas a 53s 641 I Fine Flour - 45 s', 4i'
White Pease 444 ap s cat Seconds - 40' '
Beans . 31r, st :si od

PRICE OF STOCKS,
Y1:51 &ROA Y.
wtia Stock.
India 6°03

Bank Stock
N.vy i per Cent. 92i z
l'eL ', cut. '79-, 414 ii 6 lil, • ''''',,
11611 i per Cent. ' Onmitun of
11,. I°l it
; C. t.eut. -.20t. 67 611 , 1 aiii.E.4. it, , . rits
3 pci C. It. 521 I# .z i Pitt,. "iio,
311cr C. Criii. slics:si tii t ; flank for filly Ace. , odt
8.,11.1.. A, is i t.to 1 c.m.. wr Aug. SIL 5°4

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