The Sun.
London, England, 1858-02-26 00:00:00

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.—Fe,b. 25.

MANSION-HOUSE.—James Harling, a young
man of very respectable connections, and of good
education and address, was brought before the Lord
Mayor, charged with having embezzled several sums
of money, the property of Messrs. Wales and Co.,
to whom he was clerk. The prisoner was also
charged with the larceny of 1001. as a clerk.
Mr. C. E. Smith, printer, 2, Devonshire-terrace,
Victoria-road Park, said—l rent my house of Mrs.
Bower, and I am in the habit of paying my rent to
Mr. Wales, as her agent. On Jan. 19 last I sent to
Mr. Wales's office the cheque produced for 121., in
payment of the quarter's rent, and I afterwards re-
ceived the receipt produced. My cheque has been
returned to me as paid by bankers.
Mr. S. Mecham, clerk to Mr. Begg, Corbet•court,
Gracechurcli•stree't, merchant, said—On Feb. 13 I
paid to the prisoner, at our office, the sum of 12/.
103., and he gave me the receipt produced.
Wales, 8, Groat St. Helen's, sur-
Mr. George R.
veyor and estate agent, said—l have one partner.
The prisoner has been in our employment about 11
years. His duty was to receive the rents of the
various properties for which I acted as agent. It
was my custom to give him receipts signed by my-
self aster they were filled up, and it was the pri-
soner's duty on receiving money to enter the
amounts received in the book called the receiver's
book, and to pay the amount to the banker, and to
account to me for the balance every Saturday night.
The cheque produced for 121. is crossed " L
prisoner's handwriting, to the bJ.
best
belief, and
f,land means the London
Joint-Stock
oSfto my Stock,"
b'
Bank, my bankers. I know his writing. The re-
ceipt produced for that sum is in his writing. It
was an irregular proceeding to give a receipt signed
The receipt produced for 121. 10s. is
signed by
dmbyl-myself, and was given by me to him with
instructions to receive the money. I have examined
the receiver's book, but there is no entry of either
of these sums in that book.
The Lord Mayor—When did you discover the
defalcationsl

Prosecutor--Yesterday morning I first discovered
it. He had absented himself on Saturday night, lam-
guyng that I 1;44 gone out to dinner, All 4 kacyrizig

that the account was not made up as usual I re-
queited him yesterday morning to make it up. H. e
then did so and there was a deficiency in the monies
he had received of 100/. I then asked him what
amount of rents he had received and not accounted
for, and I wrote down from his dictation the above
items of 121. and 121. Ios., and other sums to the
amount of 1201. He acknowledged to me that he
had received these rents.

The Lord Mayor—What do you believe to be the
amount of the whole deficiency ?
The Prosecutor—l am afraid that it is consider-
ably more than it appears to be attmpsreosooenits,
job::
II
am raally afraid to look further, for the collection is
uponthe greatest possible
veryassure
reluctance.
ia r:you:e.
I come
fp77
with
It was subsequently mentioned to the Lord
Mayor that the prisoner had been in the habit of
playing at cards for considerable sums of money
with young men of very respectable position in
society, and that in one night he had lost upwards
of 28% to a friend, with whom he had been in the
habit of negotiating bills.
The prisoner said he should reserve his defenoe.
The Lord Mayor—The case is a most deplorable
one. I am given to understand, prisoner, that
your employer on the day you completed your
ninth year in his service, greatly to his satisfaction,
presented you with a very handsome watch in proof
of the estimation in which he held you, and I can
very well conceive with what pain he comes forward
now to show how much he was mistaken in suppos-
ing that you would never give him cause to regret
the confidence he reposed in your integrity. his
impossible that any. who has heard what has taken
place here to-day can attribute the offences which
have been charged against the unfortunate prisoner
to any cause but the dreadful vice of gambling.
The prisoner was committed.

CLERKENWELL. Caroline Sedgerigieen,
23, a servaut at a brothel, 6, Holborn-buildings, -
and Rose Smith, 17, a prostitute, were placed at •
the bar before Mr. Tyrwhitt, charged with stealing
from the person of Jas. Matthews, 78, Myddelton;
street, Clerkenwell, a watchmaker, in Gray's-ion-
lane, a silver watch, of the value of 61. and 101.
ss. in gold and silver monies, under the following. -.
circumstances :

The complainant, a few evenings since, was wait• '
ing in Holborn for his wife, when the two prisoners,.
as he stated, went up to , him, and after having
some conversation with them, he took .them into a
publie-honse and treated them with some refresh-
ment. After that he adjourned with the pricioners
to a low brothel in Holborn-buildings, where he
speedily became insensible, and was robbed of the
whole of his property. On Wednesday he gave
information to the police, and the prisoners were.
apprehended, but although a strict search was
made, none of the property was found. The pro-
secutor stated that he had been drinking a little,
but if the magistrate bad any doubt, he had better
give it to the prisoners.
The prisoners, in defence, denied any knowledge
of the prisoner or his property.
Mr. Tyrwhitt said he did not think any jury
would convict upon such evidence, and the pri-
soners would, therefore, be discharged ; but if any
other evidence could be produced, they could be
again apprehended.

WORSHIP-STREET.—FRIGHTPUL ASSAULT.
—Joseph Nixon, a malicious-looking, strong-built
fellow, was charged with cutting and wounding
Henry Clea;by.
Complainant is a porter, and recognised at this
court as a person who is frequently seen about the
Bank, directing omnibus passengers as to the most
fitting time to procure accommodation, and secures
them seats as they arrive seriatim. Hise manner is
extraordinarily singular, and on this occasion con-
trasted strongly with his frightfully-disfigured, in-
jured, and bloody face, enveloped in bandages. He
stated that on Wednesday afternoon he met the
prisoner, whom he well knew as an associate of
pickpockets, lurking about the Bank. Prisoner
instantly dashed at him, with an oath, and struck
him over the eye with some sharp instrument. .
Magistrate—Do you know the prisoner to be a
thief !
Complainant—Do ll' Dont I f Why, I often
sees him about the busses, and I always says to
him, ." Now, I'm not a going to have any of your
little game here." That's the way I spoilt him,
and this is the way he's spoilt me.
Magistrate—Did you bleed much I
Complainant—Did I ? I should think I did. I
should not like to bleed so again. Look here.
Magistrate—Pray don't take off the bandage.
The complainant had already laid the wound (a
long and heavy cut near the temple) bare ; clearly
it was of a most serious character ; and the ma-
gistrate ordered that, without waiting to give far-
ther evidence, the injured man should be conveyed
to the hospital in a cab.

LAMBETH. THE EX- POLICEMAN. George
Thurston, the ex-policeman, who has been in cus-
tody for tendayson charges of felony, was brought
up for final examination.
The case had been adjourned for the attendance
of Mr. Robinson, a musicseller, 71, Wardour-street
at whose shop the prisoner bad sold, or said be
had sold, a quantity of valuable music belonging to
the prosecutor. At the last examination Mr.
Wells, the prosecutor, and who is the leader at
Drury-lane, complained of the discourteous and
untradesmaulike manner in which he bad been
treated by Mr. Robinson when he went to his shop
to make inquiries about his lost music, and a sum-
mons was granted for Mr. Robinson's attendance.
When called on Mr. Robinson declared that he had
not purchased the music stated by Mr. Wells,
nor had he ever, to his knowledge, seen the
prisoner before. The prisoner as positively
declared be was the person to whom he had sold
the stolen music, and the magistrate expressed it as
his opinion that there could be no doubt of the
fact. Mr. Robinson, however, was sworn, and on
his oath confirmed his previous statement, while
the prisoner as positively declared he was the pur-
chaser of the property.
The prisoner pleaded guilty to the offences
charged, and the magistrate having expressed his
strongest reprobation of his conduct, sentenced
him to six months' hard labour.

The Peninsular and Oriental Steam Company have
appointed Mr. Willcox, M.P., their chairman, Sir.Tanaes
Matheson having resigned.
On Monday next the steamer Arabia is expected to
arrive at Liverpool from New York with a large amount
of gold.
KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL—Tho annual court of
this corporation was held yesterday in the board-room of.:
the hospital. The Rev. Dr. Jelt occupied the chair.
The committee's 19th annual report stated the number
of in-patients at 1,461, and the out-patients as 26,156
—total, 27,617. The average length of residence of the
patients in the:house was 27 days, and the average cost
of each patient was V. ss. The current income of the
year 1857 was 5,5771. 4s. 6d., including a legacy of
5001. from Miss Macleod, and the expenditure was
6,8511. 16?. 2d. The liabilities of the institution at the
end of the year were 2,173/. 7e. 7d., and the total
amount of stock only 1,1761. 4s, 43., showing a dell-
, ciency upon the current account, But
occasions the
cotninAtee considerable anxiety. But the matter which
most presses upon the managers is the state of the old
building and necessity of completing the new structure.
The result of the subscription for this purpose inaugu-
I rated at the great public meeting in Lincoln's-inn-ball.
under the presidency of his Royal Highness the Duke of
Combridge, was up to the date of ehe report 21,6794.,
and a further sum having since been announced, the
amount required to complete the subscription is 17,3481.,
and on the raising of that sum now depends the comple-
tion of the works. The retirement of hMr. Alderman
Copeland, M.P., from the treasurership, on account of
pressing public duties, was mentioned with regret, and
the worthy alderman was cordially thanked for the
munificent spirit with which he had helped to form and
sustain the hospital. The nursing deportment, under the
direction of the Lady Superintendent and Lady Sisters
of St. John's-house, was mentianed with warm commen-
dation, and stated to be gratefully appreciated by the
sick poor admitted into the hospital.
ALLEGED MISCONDUCT OF REGIMENTS IN INDIA.--
Through a private but authentic eouree we learn that in
sameyet transpired in
thisam
military affairs in India there has lately been more diffi-
cultypb and commotion
country.h A
as
been
then
Cmorethan
or
less have
time
exculpating ctuhlapta t i ng
Sir
Colin
Gene-
ral
has been dealing rigorously with some of those holding
subordinate but important commands under that officer.
It is now said that the 81th and Std Regiments (Queen's)
behaved very ill on the occasion of the attack by the
Gwalior Contingent ; took to flight almost without a
shot ; got into the town and cantonments, and set to
plundering and drinking. Sir C. Campbell is reported to
have put the colonels of both under arrest—hence, we
presume, the announcement in Friday's Gazette that
Brevet-Colonel Robertson, of the 82d, has " resigned."
The artillery force is pronounced to have also behaved
ill, or to have been ill managed, on th e same occasion,
and its consequeece Sir C. Campbell has summarily die.
missed Gen. Dupuis, who was at the head of that force,
and three other artillery officers near him in local corn.
mend. The terms in which Sir Colin Campbell is under-
stood ;to have performed this painful duty are reported
to have been unusually energetic—that the officers im-
plicated did not know their business; that Woolwich
practice won't do in India ; and that, as he is responsible
to the country, and not merely to the;War-office at borne,
0
be takes the liberty of reoommending their returnne_ 0
England. A Company's officer has been appoaly thdarg•
succeed Gen. Dupuis. These statementson their
oar
t some enlargement and adornments
mleged
cur
from India, but that the main facts are
doubt. Sir
C. Camb-
information leaves us no room
Q an opinion that but
bell, we believe, has also exit:T:7,
of the two regiments
and the misconduct
for the inefficiency
Of
the
afentry.abovenamed, General
succeeded In carrying out orders
Windham would hay?
a holding his position. of
wtairmoday.

Ettrli 12trition

SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock,

IMPERIAL PAR LIAMEN T.

HOUSE OF LORDS.--(This Evening.)

Their lordships assembled at 5 o'clock.
Lord REDESDALE, as deputy•speaker, occupied the
♦oolsack.

The house presented rather a singular appearance,
trout the change of places occasioned by the members
and supporters of the late Ministry taking their seats on
the Opposition side of the house. The seat formerly
occupied by the Earl of Derby was this evening
filled by Earl Granville, next to his lordship sat Lord
Cranworth and the other peers who held office in the
late ministry. The Ministerial side was rather thinly
attended ; the front or Government bench was occupied
by the Marquis of Salisbury, Lord Lonsdale, Lord Col-
'Life, and the Duke of Montrose.
THE CAGLIARI.
Lad LYNDHURST presented a petition on behalf
of the Iwo persons arrested on board the Cagliari
steamer. It complained of the ill-treatment to which
they had been subjected, by which the health of both
had been very greatly impaired.
THE CASE OF AZZOPARDI.
Lord LYIC_DHURST said he wished to explain a state-
na.mt he had made respecting Azzopardi, who on Monday
last 13,.• had stated was hanged. He had since received a
letter which stated that the sentence of death had been
corntautec; to transportati,n, and that he had been sent
to Norfolk Island in 1843.
CIIRISTIANITY IN INDIA.
The Duke of NARLBORGUGH presented a petition
from East Suffolk, praying that the bible might be intro-
duced into the Government schools in India, and that
there be no farther connection with the Hindoos in the
government of India.
LAW OF LIBEL BILL.
Lord CAMPBELL said the second reading of this
bill stood for Monday next, but in consequence of cer-
tain circumstances he thought it would be better that
the second reading should be postponed until a future

dayL.
ord LYNDHURST ap,ked the noble lord whether
the provisions of the bill might not be made
.more
extensive.
Lord CAMPBELL said he had gone as far as he
thought he could do with safety, but if his noble friend
would take the bill on his hands he should feel great
pleasure in committing it to his keeping.
Lord STANHOPE said the bill as it stood had the
advantage of being the recommendation of a select com-
mittee. If the bill was made more extensive in its
effects, a fresh measure would have to be introduced
which would not have that recommendation.
After a short conversation the second reading of the
bill was postponed.

THE NEW MINISTRY.
The Marquis of SALISBURY said his noble friend at
the head of the Government had thought it would be more
respectful to the house if he abstained from making the
usual ministerial statement until Monday next, and he
accordingly moved the adjournment of the house until
that day.
Bad. GRANVILLE said that when his noble friend
the Earl of Aberdeen asked for a similar adjournment,
the noble earl, not now in the house (Lord Derby) said
he thought that 24 hours, or three days at the utmost,
was all that was required to complete his arrangements.
He was not going to follow that course, because it was
of great public importance that a new Government
should have some opportunity of inspecting official do-
curneata in the public offices, of coneidering their policy,
aad also the manner in which they intended to bring that
policy bolore the public at large.
The motion was then agreed to, and their lordships
adjourned until Monday next.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—(This Evening.)

The SPEAKER took the ckair at 4 o'clock.

The attendance of members was very numerous. The
house presented a changed appearance, aad from the
Opposition having taken their places on the Ministerial
side of the house, it was with much difficulty the Govern-
ment members could be recognised. Sir J. Graham, Mr.
S. Herbert, Mr. Gladstone, MrDrnmmond, Sir De Lacy
Evans, and Sir C. Napier sat in their usual places en the
Ministerial side of the house, below the gangway. Mr.
Spooner took a seat immediately behind the Ministerial
bench. Mr. Whiteside and Mr. Fitzgerald occupied
seats on the present Ministerial bench, and appeared
highly delighted with their change of quarters. Mr.
Hayter, Mr. Lowe, Mr. J. Fitzgerald, Mr. Wilson, Sir
B. Hall, and some other members of the late Govern-
ment occupied seats on the front Opposition benches.
Mr. Roebuck, Mr. T. Duncombe, Mr. J. W. Fox,
Mr. Cardwell, Sir F. Baring, Mr. J. Bright, and Mr.
Gibson occupied corresponding seats on the Opposition
side of the house to those they did on the Ministerial
side before the resignation of Ministers. None of the
members of the old or new Ministry were present.
Many of the members on entering the house were
unable to recognise the change, and could with diffi-
culty realise their friends. The late Attorney-General,
on entering the house, walked up to the Ministerial
benches, where he appeared greatly surprised to find
Mr. Whiteside sitting at his ease. The hon. and learned ,
gentlemen shook hands, and it was only on the late
Attorney-General calling to his assistance his eye-glass
tnat he discovered his mistake, and walked across to the
Opposition side of the house amidst roars of laughter in
which ntany of his late colleagues heartily joined. The
attendance of members on the Opposition side of the
house vras far more numerous than those on the Minis-
terial bide. Lord Palmerston arrived at 20 minutes
past 4 o'clock, amidst loud cheers. He entered the
house from behind the Speaker's chair. He took his
seat in the front opposition bench, immediately opposite
his usual seat on the ministerial side of the house.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
Several private bills were read a second time,
NEW WR[TS.

Oa the motion of Sir W. JOLLIFFE, the following
new wzits were ordered for Buckinghamshire, in
the ro ?m of Mr. Disraeli, who has accepted the
office 41 Chancellor of the Exchequer ; for Sings
Lynn, in the room of Lord Stanley ; for the University
of Canaubridge, in the room of Mr. Walpole—who have
been appointed Secretaries of State; for Droitwich, in
the room of Sir J. Pakington, who has accepted the office
of Ficat Lard of the Admiralty ; for Huntingdon,
in the room of General Peel, appointed Secretary for
War ; fe r the county of Oxford, in the room of Mr.
Henley, appointed President of the Board of Trade ;
for the North Division of the county of Wilts, in
the room of Mr. Sotheron Estcourt, appointed Pre-
sident of the Poor-law Board ; for the Northern
Division of Stafford, in the room of Mr. Adderley, ap-
points d Vice-President of the Committee of Education ;
fur Stamford, in the room of Sir F. Thesiger, ap-
pointed: Lord Chancelior—(hear, hear)—for the East-
ern Division of Suffolk, in the room of Sir Fitzroy
Kelly, appointed Attorney-General ; for Belfast,
in the room of Mr. Cairns, appointed Solicitor-General
—(hear. hear) ; for the northern division of Leicester,
is the room of Lord J. Manners, appointed First
Commissioner of Works; for the southern divi-
sion off' Salop, in the room of Viscount Newport,
appointed Vice-Chamberlain of her Majesty's House
hold ; for the County of Dublin, in the room of Cap-
tain V. E. Taylor, appointed one of the Lords of the
Treasiery ; for Bridgenorth, in the room of Mr. Whit-
more, appointed one of the Lords of the Treasury ;
for C.eckermouth, in the room of Lord Naas, appointed
Chief Secretary for Ireland ; for the county of Tyrone,
in the room of Lord C. Hamilton, appointed Treasurer
of Her Majesty's Household ; in the room of Col. For-
rester,. appointed Comptroller of Her Majestys' House-
hold.

ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.
Sir -W. JOLLIFFE in moving the adjournment of
the House on its rising till Monday, said he
did so with a view to inform the House the
convet it was proposed to be pursued by her
Majesty's Ministers. It was the desire of the
noble earl at the head of her Majesty's Government,
that the) house should assemble again on Monday for the
despite h of business, and at the same time move such writs
as might be necessary for those offices that had
not yet been filled up. It would then be his duty to ask
the house to adjourn from Monday till Friday week,
the 121 th March, the earliest period they could naturally
hops leer Majesty's Ministers would be again in their
places' to conduct the business of the house. (Hear.)
Sir It. BETHELL addressed the house at consider-
able length, in reference to statementa attributed
to Lord Derby in the other house during the
consideration of certain bills last session of Parliament
all tehri Howie of Lords, of what he (Sir R. Bethell) con
ere
of a personal character. (Hear, hear.) He also
complained of lea •
hear)—without
judges expounding the law—
(hear,argurnents and ignorant of
the circurnstances to which it was to be applied, and
also Condemned their rushing hastily to record their
opinions. Such persons he- considered, disqualified
themselves from sittinginteilgment on finch a case,
should one ever arise. e
proceeded to review the
question under the consideration of the house on Friday
night, and defended the opinion he had expressed on that
occasion relative to the alien laws, fromletc!n terpreta.
tion that had been erroneously attributed tin the
other house. He was about to quote the words he had
used on that occasion when
IF:. SCOTT rove to order. It was contrary to the
standing orders of the House for hon. members to quote
a debate that had occurred in the same session of
parliament.
wasTheer //k.-K
-Ell, said the hot] and learned gentleman
y giving a personal expla. nation, and that he was
in order.
Sir R. BETIIELL the proceeded to address the
house in defence of the opinionreferencetohe ten expressed on the
present law with
Joey's natural born subjects in i'alZd, which he said
and to
lia-
n
had been entirely misrepresented, and complained of the
right of the member of one house to criticise the
opinions and acts of the members of the other hone..
(Hear. hear.)
Mr. S. WARREN said the opinion of the hon. and
learned gentleman had become public property
)and others
it, having
been made officially, and
he (Mr. S. vrarren
had a right to criticise since it had taken alias at
every one who had heard or read it by surprise.
AA Hoy. lkismign suggeated.ti.t
ofwas not competent
law in reference
for the house to discuss a proposition
to an opinion expressed by one of its members.
hon• and learned gentleman
The SPEAKER ruled the
was in order.
Mr. S. WARREN said he was alarmed abt the
_oapipeioxn.
the boo. and learned member for Aylesbury b d

pressed, and was about to read an extract from the hon.
and learned gentleman's speech, which, however, was
ruled out of order, and the hon. and learned gentle.
men (Mr. Warren) desisted, but he could not help
saying it would have been as well if the hon. and learned
gentleman the member for Aylesbury had confined
himself to explaining, and not attribute to the Lord
Chief Justice that he had garbled the extracts he had
quoted from the speech to suit his own purpose.
Mr. WHITESIDE defended the course adopted by
the Lord Chief Justice, and the opinion he had ex-
pressed on the Law of Conspiracy.
The motion for adjournment was then agreed to.
SITTINGS OF COMMITTEES.

On the motion of Sir J. GRAIIIII, leave was given
for the committee of the house to sit during the ad-
journment of the house.

THE PASSPORT SYSTEM.
Mr. MILNES gave notice that he should, on this day
fortnight, bring under the notice of the house the pre-
sent passport regulation. (Hear, hear.)
MAYNOOTH.
Mr. SPOONER gave notice that shortly after the
Easter recess he should move for the introduction of
a bill for the withdrawal of the endowment of May.
nouth. (Loud cheers.)
EAST INDIA LOAN BILL.
After a short conversation the further consideration
of this bill was postponed on the opposition of the hon.
member for Devonport (Sir E. Perry), on the ground
that the house had had no time to discuss the principle
of the bill, and the risk involved jof throwing a great
responsibility on the finances of this country. It was
adjourned till Monday to ascertain the views of the pre-
sent
Government thereon.
The other orders were disposed of, and the house ad-
journed at 6 o'clock.

THE CHARGE AGAINST MR. ISAAC
BUTT, M.P.

PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE,—THIS DAY.
The Committee reassembled this morning at 12 o'clock.
Sir J. Graham in the chair.
Sir J. Hogg, Tice-chairman of the East India Company,
examined by Mr. Roebuck—The hon. gentleman said, to-
wards the end of July, 1857, he recollected a conversation
with Mr. Butt. He urged the propriety of a compromise
of the affairs of Ali Moored, as an act of justice, pointing
out that the evidence was insufficient. He also urged it
on the grounds of expediency, and said further, that if his
suggestions were not adopted, he intended to bring the sub-
ject before the House of Commons, and that he thought
the directors would hardly wish to have their acts ques-
tioned by the house. Mr. Butt brought with him the
memorial of Ali Moored. He (Sir J. W. Hogg) told Mr.
Batt that it was his duty to read the documents, but that
he would rather not discuss the subject in private. Mr.
Butt said he did not wish the directors to rescind their
orders, but he wished them to give directions to the
commission in Scinde, to consider the Ameer's claims.
He looked upon Mr. Butt as coming before him as a mem-
ber of the House of Commons, who was desirous of not
bringing a certain matter under Parliamentary considera-
tion if he could avoid it, he (Mr. B.) believing that the de-
cision of the Government and the Board of Directors was
not just. In consequence of this circumstance the Court
took the case of Ali Moored into consideration, and the
result was that they adhered to their former decision, but
any decision of the directors was sibjeot to the President
°tithe Board of Control, who seemed in favour of giving
directions to the commissioner in Soinde' which Mr. Butt
required. Mr. Butt said if the directors did not make the
compromise he would bring the matter before the House of
Commons, the session being still sitting. In consequence
of that statement the claims were considered.
Some documentary evidence was then submitted by the
witness ; but an objection to its reception having been
taken, the room was cleared, and after an absence of a
quarter of an hour the public wore admitted, when the
chairman announced that the committee had decided not
to receive the documents at the present stage of the in-
quiry.
The examination of the witness was then continued in
connection with the communications between the Board
of Control and Mr. Butt. It would not be proper to call
the communication from the Court of Directors a despatch
—it was, in fact, a letter to Ali Moored. The decision of
the Court of Directors was partially equivalent to the sug-
gestion of Mr. Butt, but not to the same extent.
The letter stated that if on his arrival at Bombay he con-
ducted himself in a favourable manner his case would most
likely meet with the most favourable consider-
tion. It frequently happened that members of Par-
liament interested themselves and consulted the Court
of Directors on matters relating to India. He considered
the Government of India was the proper tribunal
for the subject. He was not aware that members of Par-
liament ever addressed the Board of Directors collectively
on such matters, but there was no doubt they had fre-
quently spoken to some of the directors. The late Mr.
Hanle had spoken to himself and other members of the
court on the subject of the claims of the Raja of Sattara and
other matter relatives to India. He was positive that Mr.
Butt adverted to the expediency of such a discussion in
Parliament on the then state of India, but he confined
himself to generalities. He did not recollect that Mr. Butt
said it would be expedient to leave no irritation on
the minds of the people of India who might hear of the
rejection of the Ameer's slain), and it was on that ground
that he urged the commission. It was after the news of
the revolt reached England.
By Mr. Sergeant Kinglake—Can you, Sir James, posi-
tively state that in the interview Mr. Butt had with you
he stated he would make an application to Parliament, or
whether an application would be made ?
Sir J. W. Hogg —I cannot say positively, but to the best
of my recollection, he said he should feel it his :duty to
make the application. I have no distinct recollection of
the conversation.
Mr. David Coffey, of Dominick-street, Dublin, brother of
the petitioner, said—He knew Mr. Butt, and retained him
on the part of the Ameer in June, 1856. Mr. Butt was
than in Parliament. He settled with him (Mr. Butt) on
the subject of the Ameer's claim in Parliament, and soli-
sited his advocsoy of the case in Parliament. On one oc-
casion he marked a blank sheet of paper with five guineas
as a conference fee, and gave the money to Mr. Butt. To
the best of his recollection he gave the paper to Mr, Butt.
He had an acknowledgment from Mr. Butt for ithe money.
(The witness was here asked to produce it, but he had it
not with him.) It was for a consultation with respect to
the presentation of the petition of Ali Moored to Par-
liament. He had not seen the petition amongst the Par-
liamentary papers, but by the newspapers he saw it had
been presented.
Mr. R D. Mangles, the Chairmen of the Board of Direc-
tors of the East India Company, having entered the room,
it was agreed that his evidence should be at once taken,
and Mr. David Coffey was directed to proceed to his re-
sidence in London and fetch the document to which he
had referred. The hon. gentleman stated that he had had
conversations with Mr. Butt respecting the claims of Ali
Moored. He wished the Court of Directors to take a
favourable view of the case of the Ameer, and to remit a
portion of the penalty inflicted upon him. He understood
Mr. Batt to say that if some compromise was not made
with Ali Moored he intended to make an application to
Parliament. This occurred in the month of May.
By Mr. Sergeant Deasy—He had an indistinct recollec-
tion that in conversation with Mr. Butt on the Ameer's
claims he spoke on the authority of Mr. Vernon Smith.
By Mr. Bright—Mr. Butt stated his views why the
claim of the Ameer should bo taken into consideration,
and he believed he suggested on public grounds a reference
to India. He did not think the Court of Directors yielded
in some cases similar to the present from fear, but in the
present instance it was thought better to make a small
concession rather than fight a battle without the support
of her Majesty's Government, and a concession to this ex-
tent was granted to the Ameer. Go back to India and
we'll see what can be dons for you. It was not that he
feared a discussion in Parliament, but he considered what-
ever might be the justice of the Court of Directors, they
would suffer injury from a chance discussion.
By Mr. Sergeant Kin ,lake--It was not because the court
feared of coming into collision with the Government or that
it would be an unseemly spectacle. He had great fear of
the company being left in the lurch. If the Court of
Directors they would have made the concession.
By Mr. Bright—He believed Ali Moorad was now in
Scinde.
By Sir J. Graham—He supposed he was acting in accord.
ance with directions in the letter sent to him by the court.
The examination of Mr. Mangles having concluded, Mr.
Prinsep read his translation of the two Persian letters sent
to him yesterday in order to test the accuracy of Mirea
Ali Akhbar'e version. Mr. Prinsep's translation agreed in
the main with Mirza's. The words " son of Satan" " ac-
cursed" as applied to Mr Coffey wore confirmed by Mr.
Prinsep, as also were the allegations that Mr. Coffey was
detaining the Ameer on his road to India.
The examination of Mr. David Coffey was then continued
—He produced the document which was read by the chair-
man. It was a blank sheet of foolscap, and endosred with
Mr. Butt's initials as having received 5 guineas.
By Mr. Roebuck —He made no agreement with Mr.
Butt with respect to the advocacy of the Ameer's claims,
nor any proposition, nor did he offer anything to Mr. Butt.
He merely asked to advocate the Ameer's claims. He had
once a conversation with Mr. Butt when he said he was
going to India, an 1 that he was to receive 3,000/. it
was to be paid to him in England, and 7,000/. was to be
secured to him in bills. He never said he had an agree-
ment with his (witness's) broker, He had heard his
brother say Mr. Butt was a made man, but that was of no
consequence.
By Mr. Sergeant Deasy—He had never sent Mr. Butt
a retainer. There were some legal consultations at Sir F.
Kelly's with respect to the claims of the Ameer. Mr.
Ayrton, M.P., attended. He believed Sir F. Kelly re-
ceived his usual fee for that consultation. There were an
immense number of consultations before the Ameer's
memorial to the Queen was decided on.
A letter from Mr. Butt was here read, addressed to Mr.
David Coffey, and which he directed should be sent to Mr.
James Coffey, the other brother of the petitioner. The
letter called upon the witness and his brother James to
state all they knew about the charge brought against him
(Mr. Butt) by the petitioner. The answers from Mr.
David and Mr. James Coffey were then read ; they both
stated that they never heard of Mr. Butt receiving any
money for his parliamentary influence. The only money
they ever heard that Mr. Butt had been promised was
3,000/. for going out to India to arrange the affairs of the
Ameer.
Mr. Esdaile, of the firm of Hunt and Co., Parliamen
tary agents, was next called, and asked to produce a bill
of costs between them and. the Amour ; but lie pleaded it
was a privileged document, and therefore ought not to be
produced.

- Mr. Deasy pressed for ther document, and the room wa3
ordered to be cleared.
No decision had been arrived at when it was announced
that the Speaker was at prayers.
The committee then adjourned until to-morrow.