The Sun.
London, England, 1867-05-08 00:00:00

PETITION.

The LORD CHANCELLOR said that in reference to a
petition from Mr. O'Malley Irvine, that his action against
Sir George Grey, which had been through all the superior
courts of law, and also before their lordships' house, should
be referred to the Appeal Committee of the house. He (the
(the Lord Chancellor) considered that this would bo the
best course to pursue.
RITUALISTIC PRACTICES.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY said that he
should wish to know from her Majesty's
.Government
whether a royal commission was about to issue relative to
ritualistic practices.
The Earl of DERBY said that, in answer to the right
rev. prelate, he would state that a Royal Commission
would issue relative to the question, but he thought
that there were other violations of the rubric which would
require a thorough investigation by a Royal Commission.
The question of marriage was one which shouid engage
their attention, and also the publication of ba►nns and the
place of celebration of marriage. He considered that on
these grounds there ought -to be the strictest investiga-
tion. Without laying before their lordships any
question of religion he should propose that a Royal Com-
mission should take into consideration the points which he
had just .nentioned.
The Earl of CARNARVON said that he trusted that his
noble friend would lay upon the table of the house a fuller
detail of what he intended to bring in.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY was quite willing
to agree with the proposition made by the noble ea rl
at the head of the Government.
The Bishop of DURHAM said that he had read all
books connected with this movement of Ritualism, and
that he trusted the whole matter would be thoroughly
Investigated.
The Bishop of LONDON was very glad that the scope
of the Commission was extended beyond the question of
Ritualism, although that was most important.
The Bishop of OXFORD said that he thanked the noble
earl for what he had said about a royal commission, but
he did not see the benefit of it when legislation had
already taken place. He differed from his rev. brethren
in thinking that the matter should be brought before a
royal commission, but he hoped that as they had waited so
long patiently the matter would now be thoroughly ven-
tilated.

Several questions were then put to the noble earl (Lord
Derly) whether he intended to alter the marriage service.

Lor(1 DERBY—He had no such intention, but ho thought
that there were several points which ought to be inquired
into.

The Archbishop of YORK thought the subject most im-
portant.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY denounced the unsettling
of men's minds by the introduction of these Ritualistic
garments. lie considered that the subject was of the most
-vital importance, and he should show it in the bill he in-
tended to introduce.

The subject then dropped.
THE VOLUNTEERS.

Earl COWPER asked a question of the Earl of Derby
as to the authority of Volunteers in the event of an out-
break amongst the populace, or such an affair as that down
at Chester.

The Earl of DERBY said that the attention of the
Legislature had been called to the question.

INCREASE OF THE EPISCOPATE.

Lord LYTTLETON moved the second reading of this
bill, and stated that in doing so he was entirely supported
by the Right Rev. Primate the Archbishop of Canterbury.
The noble lord then enumerated the opinions of various
commissions as to the creation of new sees, and stated that
two of these had been carried out.

W•
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY seconded the
motion, and tendered his thauks to Lord Lyttelton for in-
troducing the bill, being strongly of opinion that an in-
crease of the episcopate was urgently demanded to meet

the spiritual wants of the people.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY suggested that the
appointment of suffragan bishops might be provided for in
the bill; but in his opinion the measure ought to be intro-

duced on the responsibility of Ministers.
The Earl of DERBY, in assenting to the second reading,
pointed out several details in respect of which the bill
would require careful cmsideration. The arrangements
might, he thought be safely left to the Ecclesiastical Com-
missioners, and if he remained in office he should deem it
to be his duty to go carefully over any scheme they might
submit to the Government.
Tho Bishop of OXFORD hoped that the simplicity of
the measure would not be destroyed by mixing up with it
tha very difficult question of suffragan bishops.
The bill was then read a second time.
Earl COWPZR having given notice that to-morrow he
should call attention to the conduct of the Government
with regard to the Hyde Park meeting on Monday last,
their lordships adjoirned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS—LAST EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Bishop Wearmouth Rectory and the Thames Na
ligation Bills were read a third time and passed.
ROYAL PARKS BILL.

Mr. TAYLOR gave notice that on the motion for the
second reading of this bill he should move that it be read
a second time that day six months.