The Sun.
London, England, 1867-07-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

ROUSE LORDS—Tms EVENING.
Tiao LOUD CHANCELLOR. took his vat on the woolsack at
five o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
Railway,
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and Devon
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with the bi , GREYantought that it ought to have been ad-
journed for
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DE'llthe report of the royal commission.
After some further di
of the insertion of the caladusescussion the bill was re a thirdpro-
time, with the addition
posed by Lord Cranworth.
THE STATUE OF MR. CANNING.
Lord STRATIIE DEN moved that an humble address
ho presented to her Majesty, to give instructions that
the statue of Mr. Canning may be removed to its original
site, or to a spot not more remote from the House of
Commons. lie complained that the statue had been re-
moved to a spot where it could not be seen, and :ques-
tions had been asked by several noble lords, " where is
the statue of Mr. Canning gone to ?" It was removed
he knew to carry out a design which was now before their
lordships elaborated and carried out. The whole trans-
formation could, however, have been made, and left the
statue of Mr. Canning still standing. The question was
whether their should not be a restoration, and ho wished
for a petition to pray her Majesty that it mii,ht be re-
stored to its site. h appeared that the spot on which the
statue stood formerly belonged to the Dean and Chapter
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of
Westminster, but it was afterwards granted to t
Crown, and by it granted to tho subscribers, and
therefore there was no difficulty in restoring it.
Mr. Canning had died shortly after coming into high
office, and he had been buried with the utmost honours ;
his remains were deposited in Westtnins. ar, and this spot,
this site, was consecrated to his memory. Upon this point
he principally founded his motion.
Lord STRATFORD DE REDCLIFFE said that, as a
near surviving relative of the late Mr. Canning, he must
inform their lordships that although 40 years had elapsed
yet still he had the same feeling towards that great man.
Whether the statue bb removed, or, like all other perish-
able things perish, it would not alter his feelings towards
him. The objectin placing the statue where it was was that
it should stand nearthe areuawiiere hisgreat abilities were
well known, and his eloquence so often heard. If there
was a necessity for its removal, no one would be mole
ready to agree to it WA ilinoelf, but_ it APPearod, tSQ

what had fallen from his noble friend, there existed no such
necessity under those circumstances, and having no other
information, he thought that it would be better that me-
morials of that kind should remain where they were. It
was now completely in the shade, and in the future other
statues might be placed near which would completely hide
it. He therefore agreed with the resolution of his noble
friend.

[LEFT SITTING.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS. Tars EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
GOOD-SERVICE MEDALS.

Mr. APLAR&asied-the-&retary of State for War
why cavalry soldiers were obliged to servo for twenty-mm
years to entitle them to the good-conduct medal, whilst
all other branches of the service had only to serve
eighteen years to qualify them for that distinction.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said the circumstance arose front
the difference of the times of enlistment, and also to the
fact that the medals had been given to infantry 3,•klite-s
three years liefore the time they would become entitled to
them. Hcwover, from the steps that had been taken in
the pre-Ant session, both branches of the service would
receive them at the same time.
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.
_ _

In reply to Mr. WHALLEY,
Mr. HARDY said he had not received complaints from
Peteraborough and other plaze respecting the mode of
enforcing tue law adopted by the police in regard to
the violation of the Act 25 and 6 of Will. IV., c. 63.
There was some difficulty, it was true, existing in conse-
quence of the standard weights in sonic parts of the coun-
try not having been suffi,iently tested, but ample protec-
tion was afforded to the traders in those localities.
COUNTY PRISONS IN IRELAND.

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Mr. BRADY said the treatment of the prisoners
in the county prisons in Ireland was cruel in
the extreme. Instead of receiving the sort of
food ordered by the inspectors of prisons, they received
eight ounces of Indian meal for breakfast, and 14 ounces
of brown bread for dinner. The meals were served at 9in
the morning and 3 in the afternoon, so that for 18 hours
the poor creatures were left without food or drink. When
the men left the prisons they were quite unable to perform
the ordinary duty of life. In Gibraltar the food given the
prisoners was altogether sumptuous compared with that in
Ireland, and when the house for one moment considered
that the charge per diem for the keep of each prisoner
in Ireland was only 3d., he was sure it would be at once
seen that the diet such a sum cost was totally inadequate
for the support of health. Ile condemned the practice of
making men sent to prison endure more hardships than
the law inflicted on them.
Lord NAAS said some time ago, prior to 1849, it was
discovered that the dietary given in prisons acted as a sort
of premium to crime, and therefore it was thought proper
to reduce it; but even then it exceeded that given in
the workhouses. In 1850 it was still further reduced,
soup being substituted for milk. In 1854 another
alteration in the dietary tables was made, and from that
time to the present no further alterations took place. He
admitted that the time had now arrived when the subject
should be thoroughly it quired into, with a view of making
such alterations as might now be considered necessary,
and he was also of opinion that some change in the
dietary tables was required, but they must be careful they
did not go too far. In some prisons in Ireland an increased
quantity and quality of diet had already taken place, but
before the session closed ho should introduce a bill on the
subject with a view to its being fully considered during the
recess. He did not think the deaths in the Irish county
prisons were greatly in excess of those confined in prisons
in England.
After a few observations from Mr. NUTT the motion
was by leave withdrawn.
STATE OF IRELAND.
Sir 0. O'LOGHLEN called the attention of the house
to the state of Ireland, and the legislation for that country
proposed during the present session by her Majesty's Go-
vernment. In one part of tho country in Scotland all was
quietness and comfort. Scotland had no grievances,
and if she had they were not heard of in the house.
In Ireland, however, the laws with respect to the land
and the Church remained in the most unsatisfactory state,
and it was the opiaion of those best able to give an opinion
that the land laws formed the groundwork of the wide-
spread disaffection which unfortunately existed in Ireland.
The Church question was another subject of disquietude.
In Ireland they had two churches, one the Church of the
State, which was alien to the people and the Church of
the people alien to the State, and he felt quite certain that,
whoever might be the occupants of the Treasury bench
next session, that question would have to be taken ear-
nestly and seriously into consideration. With re-
spect to the manner in which Irish affairs had been
conducted by the Lord-Lieutenant and the noble lord
who filled the office of Chief Secreta he had
no fault to find ;_ on the contrary, thery , nobleman
who filled the office of Lord-Lieutenant had
th
con-
ducted matters with dignity and prudence, wh te
noble lord the Secretary for Ireland
the had
utmostacted
throughout a most trying period with
discretion, and had treated the whole of thhee Irish
When
mem-
bers with the greatest courtesy. (Hear,
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the put
greatest pressure was - upon them during the
Fenian outbreak, and every one who did not advise acts of
coercion was nearly looked upon as one implicated iu
the
disturbance, the noble lord, amidst all this, determined to
depend upon the majesty of the law, and in that course
ho had beau successful. lie thought ho was entitled
to the hearty thanks of that house for the
l;;,) w energy
he had displayed; but then something eas
required. In the Speech fro:u the Throne the Govern-
mint promised a bill to settle the ltud question, but it had
altogether failed, not limn the opp )sr.ion of tae Irish
members on his (Sir Colmln O'le)gliten's) silo of
the house, but those who Met behind the Trea-
sury bench. The great curse of Ireland was abs
ni-
teeism, and, with the greatest respect for Iler Majesty, he
thought that if bier Majesty and the Royal Faintly would
stay for a short time in that country she would more
effectually put down the effects of that system than regi-
mouts of soldiers and police.
(LEFT SITTING.)