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ly as they Ware on him, they hiii,not fallen.beatily
on the Public. He could assure the Committee he
had not taken up this opinion lightly,•nor had he
expressed it before he bad made a fair comparison
between the situation . of the present illustrious
Prince, and those who have been his predecessors
and he was very sure, if Gentlemen would look back
to our History, and consider the Establishments
made from time to time for thelleir Apparent of
the Crown, and would make a fair comparison,
which included a consideration of the price of. all
the articles of Necessity as well as of Luxury in
life, they would find abundant reason to be satisfied.
that the present Prince of-Wales had not taken more
from the Public for his support than his predecessors.
The Committee would consider how the latter part of
the Debt had been contraaed, and consider also how
• a great part of that Debt had been satisfied, and then
consider how long His Royal Highness had been feel.
ing the inconveniences of a comparative obscurity,
and the period of life in which that obscurity was
endured, then he was sure. the Community 'would
think it would be but little to the honour of,the
House thar this restridionupon.His Royal Highness
should continue—These considerations Justified him
in the earnest and -zealous manner sin which he "P'
ported the. vote now proposed by his Right Ron.,
Friend,.
Mr. HARRISON said, that no Gentleman in
• • That House had a greater esteem for the Prince of
Wales than himself, that no man revered and ad.
mired. the Royal Family more than he did, but not.
'Withstanding his respect for them, he could not con.
teal his:sentiments with resped tO the ant:jet which
' Was before the House for discussion. He was very
liorry His Royal Highness-should have been abridged.
of those comforts and that dignity' and grandeur,
which ought to attend the 'August Personage of our.
Royal Prince. It was not; he tho'ught, prudent to
add new burthens on the people at this period:
The House Ought. coolly to consider their strength
and the ability they possess, before they make use
the public money. He thought it not improper
to inquire what had been done with the money
arising out of the Dutchy of Cornwall, during the
minority atilt Prince. It was necessary that every
particular relative to the expenditure of this money
ought to be laid before the House; till that was done,
tr Some satisfaaory.estplanation was given to the
}louse, he could not -enter into the merits of the
question, but by saying it was the fairest way to
ascertain the sums due to the' Prince of Wales, our
of the Dutchy of Cornwall; at the same time he did
rot wish to offer any impediment to any Measure
which would tend to add dignity to His Royal
Highness the Prince of Wales. He also wished to
know the residue of the Prince's debt.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that the Prince's Debt amounted Its seven bun.
Bred and ninety-five thousand pounds, and the re-
sidue is now two hundred and thirty thousand.
Lord C. ASTLERE.4GH began by saying, that
the eloquent and able speech, delivered by his Hon.
Friend on his side of the House, (the SoLtcyrox
GENERAL) had been highly plelsing to his feeling's,
and must have been equally gratifying to every
Member in the House.; and he klt particulirly
happy that the Anse was near it hand when liis
)loyal Highness Would be raised from the compara-
tive obscurity in which he had been for eight years.
The question now was, What were•the motives that
'9!ged His Majesty to bring 'the subjea before the
oust ?, It was because His Majesty .had felt
strongly for the noble 'and honourable eond'uti of his
Royal Son, who so steadily adhered to the engage.
Ments he had entered into at the time he agreed to
Pay his Debts.' His Lordship then said, that he
was assured that the House could not be indifferent
to the sacrifice which the Prince of Wales had made
to satisfy his Creditors, by ieducing his Income
much less than what had been allowed to that il-
lustrious Branch of the Royal Family for a consider-
able time back., His Lordship observed, the time
of youth was not the time of prudence ; but how
eifedually had the Prince now ,convinced the Conn..
try of his prudence by remaining eight. years;depriv-
ed 'of that rank and splendor so Justly due to the
dignity of his situation ? If that sum of money
which Was the prince's right, had not been issued
!o the Civil List, the Country should have paid it.
He concluded by saying, that the roes/inn. now for
the House to consider was, whether His Royal
Highness should remain under the privation and in.:
conveniences attending his. present situation, or be
testorecl to his former rank, dignity, and splendor ?
Mr. SI.IERLPAN rose, and in his usual eloquent
'and learned nianoer, begged the attention of' the
House, to a question, he said, of importance to
them, namely, the Dignity of an illustrious. Pe-
rsonage. He had to observe, that in granting the wish
of His Majesty's Message, it would be taking money
'hon the People,; but if. there was any sacrifice, it
was made by His Royal Highness, who had applied
some time back,► to the House of Commons for the
recovery of his Right : the question wastliscussed
-by the learned and the unlearned, and After much
inquiry, the Houk discovered that his .Claims must
go before a Court of Law :. from this great Tribu-
nal his
,Royal Claim was removed to a Court of
rtuity, and then it was fOund out, that no decision
f
• could be given on his case by that Court : it was
therefore referred to Lord PE tons; wilt offered his
• itsaistance to, the Prince in' the pioSecutiOh of his
But if it failed' Mr. SII ER I VAN said, 'the
entry would have said that the Printe meant Co
°main money froM Parliament under an unjust pre-
renee. The Prince of Wales does not come here to
beg, he comes here on a claim which is 'founded on
eight,' as to the Arrears of the Dutchy of Cornwall,
.Which were brought to public use. But. let it 'be
fairly Understood, that the Plan for the liquidation
.of his Debts Continues as if this measure had not
been adopted. 'The burthena of the People were
thent great, which was a strong inducement to His
`mod to
Highness to relinquish any measure that could,
94'1° to their distress; and another reason why he
ERVe_ up his claim, was the glorious uncertainty of
cite Law, which consider as a art of
• its professors
its excellence. Mr. SIIER I DAN remarked, that the
.
ITANIILI:9R of the ExcnzQuza said, there.was a
ed otlion .of ten per cent. on- she sums due to the
Prince's Creditors, a circumstance which would
welshl.l very heavy on the feelings of His Royal
Witless, in-giving an idea, that he bad not paid,
bur c4opounded his Debts ; and he was ter-

twin. that the Prince a. ,es wOttl.cl snoner.
main another year in his present situation than to
give any loom to imagine that he had compounded
his Debts. He said, he heard from all sides Of the
House a wish that the Prince should resume his fornier
splendor and dignity.. He wa's certain that every
Member in that House,.and the Country at Jarge,
• felt the most lively interest in the prosperity and
happiness of that Illustrious Personage. •

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The Ch ANC of tht EXCHEQUER ex.
plained ; he vindicated .the condat of the. Com
missioners, of Which he had been himself one. The
PRINCE'S Debts.had' been, stated at 6z0,0001, but
had been assurced at 65b,0c01. to provide for out.
`standing claims. On the investigation they were
found to exceed. that sum ;- but the Commissioners,
from motives of delicacy and prudence, forbore to
mention the circumstance. They cut off fraudulent
charges, and for the remaining aggregate, gave
the Creditors the option of Debentures of tool.
at three per cent. or of go!. for each hundred at
five per cent. salaries, rents, and money lent, they
paid withont dedudion. The Prince, he said,
would not be able immediately to resume his dignity
from motiies, which, if known, would be highly
Honourable to his feelings ; but the *position he
made would have the merit of accelerating that
event by three years and a half, and it was a conso-
lation to think, that His Royal Highness should so •
soon be able to do it. HeSaid he supported the pre-
sent' praposition on public giounds, and appealed to
the recolkftion of many. Honourable Friends, in
proof of his having stated 'sentiments to that- effea
heretofore. The claim's of the Prince, he said, were
much tiver-rated, and if, the decision should be fa-
vourable, he wished to know how judgment could be
executed, after the fisrangements that had been made.
There could be, no lien on the property of His
Majesty. He disallowed any improper condua on
the part of the Commissioners, and admitted that no
debt had' been contraded.since 1795.
Mr. SHERIDAN .and the CHA.NCELLOR of the
c H EV,E tt severally, explained. .•
Mr. FOX, in an elegant speech, observed, that
at the time. the debts of the Prince. of Wales were
first arranged in that House, it was stated, they
were not-to he mentioned again ; but that would be
treating the Prince with the greatest austerity, if.
the House did not afford him that attention due- to
his exalted situation, and take into their most seri-
ous consideration his honourable and just claim on
the liberality of that House in increasing His Royal
• Highness's. Income.; and as the money arising
from• the thirdly of Cornwall had been appro.
printed to the Public Service, during his minority,
Tiis*Highness ought to receive a sufficient remune..
ration equal to his situation and elevated cliaraaer.,
Mr. Fox said, it must be a satisfaaion to His Royal
Highness, toconsider that he was not an Applicant,
hut that His Majesty was, induced .to cal the
Prince's situation to the attention "of the House.
Mr. Fox passed a great many elegant encomiums
on the many virtues which adorn the person of
his Royal Highness. He particularly dwelt on his
honourable and acute feelings in regard to his
Debts of every description, and concluded by say-
ing, that he , never enjoyed that splendid and
Princely Income which was allotted to his great and
exalted Station,

After a few words from Mr. BANK ES, the Mo-
tion was agreed to, and the House having resumed,
the Report was ordered to be received to.murrow.
Adjourned at halfaast eight o'clock till tomor-
row at two.

NIA I I,S.

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