The Sun.
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TIIIS EVENING wlll be produced (13th time here) the
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THIS EVENING, THE BEST WAY. Messrs. Clayton
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THEATRE ROYAL ADELPHI.
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THIS EVE.NING, a new Musical Drama, GARIBALDI
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OF LUCK. Messrs J. Clarke, J. G. Taylor, C. FT. Stephen-
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thing cau take place every day, and members
always be in a practical state of mind. The position
of the Government was strange, to say the least of
it, and not altogether satisfactory to themselves,
we should presume ; but the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, with his usual dexterity, contrived to
extricate himself and his friends from the diffi-

culty into which they had been plunged

into by circumstances.

Mr. GLIDSTONE yes-

terday, under the influence of the heat " of
debate" departed from the moderate style which

has characterisedhis discourses, and returned to the

charge with all the fire and fervour of the early days

of the Session. The cause of all this commotion
was that the Attorney-General brought up a new
clause AN b:ch purported to carry out an amendment
suggested by Mr. DENMAN, that " the rate, on the
payment of which the franchise depends, shall be
demanded by the overseer." In introducing the
clause the Attorney-General declared that he was

not appearing as its champion, and that he merely

drew it up in order to fulfil the engagements made

by the Government. Mr. ROEBUCK was much
against the proposal, and pointed out the harm that

it would occasion if it were carried out. It is de-

sirable, as he raid, to exclude the lowest class of
voters, and a notice on the church doors ought

to be a sufficient notice to all that rates were de-
manded. In the course of his remarks the hon.

member for Sheffield declared with truth that he
never taunted the Government, and that the con-
duct of this bill through the House of Commons
reflected the highest credit on the Chancellor of the

Exchequer, but he urged upon both sides to take

heed,and not carry out the propos in its entirety.
The clause was rejected by a Majority of two;

and curiously enough nearly all the occupants of the
Treasury Bench were in favour of it, while their sup-
porters were against it. Mr. Disr.AEu explained
this apparent anomaly by stating that he was now,
as be bad been before, adverse to the policy of the

clause ; but the committee were some time ago in
favour of it, at a period, too, when the Govern-

ment did not possess the influence with it that they
now did, and hence they had promised to fulfil the
then expressed wish of the committee that the pro-

posal of Mr. DENMAN should be carried out. They
wished to keep good faith with the hon. and learned
member, and thus they had acted as they had done.

This was, however, quite enough for Mr. GLAD
STONE, who treated the louse to one of those exhi

bitions in which zeal runs away with political

discretion and Parliamentary decoritm, and
which were so frequent during the early
part of this year. He attacked Mr. HARDY,
and insinuated that the Government had not
been honest in the matter, as they had not mus-
tered their friends in sufficient force. The right
hon. member waxed fiercer and fiercer in his wrath
and excitement, and wound up by saying that he
regvded the division as re-opening every question
relating to the borough franchise, which occasioned
laughter and cries of indignation.
It is much to be regretted that Mr. GLADSTONE
should mar the effects of his great talents, and de-
tract from the influence of his position by these un-
dignified displays of petulance and most unstates-
manlike manner of treating questions of importance
and interest. The tone which was taken by those who
followed him showed the impression he made by his
vehemence, and, it may be added, his violence also.
It seems strange, indeed, that the Committee should
ever have approved, even partially, of this proposal
of Mr. DENMAN'S, for it would be a most unwise
one in all its relations, and end by defeating the
object in view by the various clauses of the mea-
sure. As it was very properly put by some of those
who demurred to it, it would throw a greal deal of
power into the hands of the overseer, who indeed
might be very little fitted for it. Suppose, for the
sake of argument, that he was a " BROAD:IEAD," or
at least of that genus, bow injurious would be the
consequences, and most bitter and unavailing would
be the regrets of those whohal carried out the change.
Mr. ROEBUCK, in his forcible style, summed up
some of the evils that ensue from this pernicious
plan, and declared that he did not want "to hand
over the reins to ignorance and vice , and ignorance
and vice will rule if the rabble are let in, as they
will be if this clause be carried."
In the evening the subject of the Irish Reform
Bill was discussed, and Mr. DISRAELI had to with-
stand the charge of some indignant Irish members,
who declared that he bad not acted fairly in re-
fuzing to proceed with the measure. In reply, the
right hon. gentleman showed the difficult state of
the case, and that in reality, through the lateness
of the Session and the pressure of business,
he would not have been able _to do

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more than introduce the bill this year.
Some amusement was created by the face-
tious manner in which he spoke abJut the Irish
deputations, to which some rather impertinent allu-
sions had been made by some speakers. Early
next Session Mr. DISRAELI has undertaken that the
present Government, if in offic?, will introduce a
measure of Reform for the sister island, and hence
this bugbear of Irish opposition to the third reading
' may be considered to be satisfactorily disposed of.
Even here, however, Mr. GLADSTONE must inter-
pose and suggest doubts, and make mountains out
of molehills. If half of the rules he lays down, and
the admissions he makes upon these occa-
sions were put together in a collected form,
we think he himself would be amazed.
He last night enunciated the extraordinary
doctrine, that the suspension of the Habeas Corpus
Act occasioned by the discontent in Ireland did not
sanction the postponement of a Reform Bill. We
suspect' he would have told a different tale had he
been on_ the other side ..of the House, but really
assertions of this sort cannot be excused when
made by those who through long years have had
an intimate acquaintance with public business, and
must appreciate the difficulties of the situation. As
for his notion that the Government should have
explained their policy, how ridiculous it is. Surely
he must know that the mention of any change,
good, bad, or indifferent, would set all mal-
contents in an uproar, and create the very
mischief that it is wisely sought to avoid.
After a trying day the result has passed off
pretty well with the Government, and, we may
add, with the progress of the Reform Bill, and the
country may be congratulated that so mischievous
a proposal as that yesterday put before the com-
mittee should have been defeated, if by a small, at
least by a sufficient, majority to dispose of it for
the future, and prevent its being carried into 11,W.
The good sense of the llou2e of Commons has
generally come to the rescue in the case of this
Reform Bill, and we are glad that clause 3 has not

been an exception to the rule, for the proposed
amendment must in the end have militated against
the success of a measure which has deservedly
obtained general approbation, and which promises
to fulfil all the prospects it holds out of attaining
excellence and efficiency.

Last evening a crowded meeting was held in St..
James's Hall, for the purpose of considering the
present position of the great Reform questioD.
There were-present Mr. MILL, Mr. L4YARD, Mr.
JACOB BRIGHT, and other pro ninent members of
the Liberal party, and th proceedings wet:
throughout conducted with great unanimity of feel-

ing and good temper. Nothing very new, indeed,
was said, it anything new remains to be said on the
question, and, in fact, the speakers were evidently
a little puzzled to give definite shape to those
attacks upon the Conservative party without which
no Liberal meeting has done its duty. Nevertheless,
the Irish Reform Bill stood the malcontents in good

stead, especially as there were several Irish mem-
bers present, and there was consequently no lack of
impassioned eloquence on the occasion. We fear,
however, that on this part of the question the

uniou will not meet with much support out of
doors, the general conviction being that Fenianism,
however admirable as a proof of lush spirit and

patriotism, is rather a d Ingerous and• expensive
pastime, and one which it will not do to sanction

or encourage after the manner adopted by the Re-
form League. Also, it is thought by less en-
lightened and theoretical politicians that the real

and pressing grievances of the sister cDuntry will
be more likely to receive redress when the

country is tranquil, and the people busy in main-
taining the laws instead of conspiring against them.

The delay of the Irish Reform Bill is unfortunate,
and must be regretted on many grounds, but we
think if the question were put to them impartially,

setting aside all political feelings, most persons
would, with Mr. GLADSTONE, acknowledge the in-
consistency of granting a Reform Bill and with-
holding the Habeas Corpus ! The first step towards
improved legislation for Ireland must be taken by

herself. When Fenianism is done with, we may

reasonably hope that the strong public feeling now
existing in England will be able to accomplish some

really practical good.
As there was not much room for complaint re-
specting an extended franchise, which we may hope
is now put oa a satisfactory ba.sis, tho chief object

of last night's discussion was the redistribution.
This is always a very troublesome part of a Re-
form Bill, and we may fairly question whether any

politician whatever could avoid all its diffi3ulties

The speakers last night were mainly in favour of
giving largely increased representation to the large
towns at the expense of small constituencies. This,

however, is one of the cases in which governmen
by theory and government by practice differ.
Theoretically representation by numbers seems the
fairest and most reasonable method ; practically it
does not give a fair representation of the people
collectively. The representatives belong all to one
or two classes, and . the Parliament loses its in-
fluence. The majority in the great and popu-
lous cities are often under the same influence.
We do hot mean corrupt influences, but those tem-
porary passions that sway a multitude. Our
large constituencies have often shown this in times
of political excitement, by rejecting their most
distinguished and long-tried members. Edinburgh
turning out MACAULAY, Manchester refusing Mr.
BRIGHT, and the West-Riding deserting Mr. COB-
DEN, are notable instances that we cannot always
rely on getting the best men returned by the largest
constituencies, even when they are tried representa-
tives. Another objection is that there is a good
deal of unanimity of political feeling between the
great cities. One, indeed, may be interested in
shipping, another in manufactures, another
in collieries, but in general topics they
are often influenced by the same talkers, and
animated by the same ideas. If we do not want to
get our legislation reduced to that dead level which
ends by stopping all progress, we must not rest our
representation solely upon numbers. We must not,
indeed, if we wish to be just or reasonable, leave
any large and populous plaice totally unrepresented
as we have hitherto done; and it may well be ques-
tioned whether Parliament should not have the
power of adding. one or two members to the House,
as the increase of population or the change of charac-
ter in a locality demands. Many of the great towns
now clamorous for two representatives were vil-
lages at the tine of the first Reform:Bill, and no doubt
some out-of-the-way hamlet of the present day will
ten years hence beara familiar name. We have often
expressed our conviction that there is no necessity
for the rigid adherence to the limit of 638, which
all parties seem determined upon, and if the popu-
lation goes on increasing in number, wealth, and
intelligence at all in the same proportion as it has
done during the last thirty years, the discrepancy
will grow more and more perceptible. If we want a
national Parliament we must..get the various shades
of national thought and feeling fairly represented.
We cannot, as experience has proved, trust small
boeoughs to represent the great towns, or an agri-
cultural constituency to represent the manufacturing
interests, but neither can we reasonably suppose
that the reverse will be the case, that the
,towns will
fairly represent the counties, or that the Reform
Leagues and National Unions of London and Lanca-
shire will trouble themselves much about the wants
and wishes of uninfluential and undemonstrative dis-
Mr. MILL, who, we are glad to find, has set
imself in good earnest against the gang system,
said last evening that the town and borough mem-
bers were better representatives of the agricultural
labourers than either the landlords or the farmers ;
and it must be admitted that both these clasies
have been very remiss, if not indifferent, in
improving the condition of the labourer. But, on
the other hand, it must be remembered that it was
the country party that carried the Reform of the
Factory Laws in the face of the most determined
opposition from the representatives of the manufac-
turing towns. We need a mixed representation in
the interest of all, because each class is thereby
enabled to keep the other in check. The minority
in the towns, as in the counties, will not obtain a
fair representation always from its members; that
is to say, in c.,ses like the Factory Acts or the
gang system, we must look to really independent
men, who, uninfluenced by party, will throw them-
selves heartily into the cause. But the condition of
the agricultural labourers shows, we think,. a great
need for a considerable improvement in the county
representation, and we must hope that among the
other benefits to be conferred by the new Reform
Bill, it will give us some members who will take a
hearty interest in the welfare of the rural population,
will understand their wants and their drawbacks,
and set to work to improve their condition, unin-
fluenced by any local prejudices, or by the fear
of a landlord's displeasure. None of these
good ends, however will be attained by mere party
recrimination and mutual abuse, and we are sorry
to find the leading members of the Reform Union
still keeping up the same strain of party antagonism
instead of looking on the question in a practical
and comprehensive One of the speakers last

ricts.

evening said in America large territoii?s were re-
presented in Congress by members who had a voice
and no vote, and it was in this way that the great
cities of England were treated. We apprehend,
however, that if the choice were given the League
they would prefer the privilege of loudly proclaim-
ing their opinions to the less conspicuous but more
practically serviceable alternative!

HENLEY REGATTA.—On the second day of this
regatta (July 4) the most exciting contest will take place
between the crews of Oxford, Rrldley and Eton College.
The Eton eight are : —Calvert stroke, Benson 7, Bunbury
t, Sheppard 5, Ridley 4, Xirehouse3,l4ewis 2, Woodhouse
bow, Elliott coxswain. This crew are in training laJfween
the Victoria and Albert bridges, on the borders of Wind-
sor Houle Park, under the coaching of Mr. Warre and Mr.
Snow.