The Sun.
London, England, 1858-10-18 00:00:00

THE SUN.

MONDAY. OCTOBER 18, 1858.

Lord HARDWICKE is, or at all events ought to be,
an unexceptionable witness in all relating to naval
affairs. He is "an old Salt," a thoroughgoing true-
blue," who has worked his way up to the very
highest rank in the service of which England is so
justly proud, and his heart is in his profession,
everything relating to which is to him " a labour
of love." Apart from his position as an Admiral,
he has other opportunities, as a Cabinet Minister,
afforded to him of making himself thoroughly ac-
quainted with the state of the national defences,
more particularly with the condition of " the
wooden walls" that have ever proved our greatest
glory and unceasing security. Anything that falls
from such a man must, therefore, be received with
respectful attention, and the errors which he may
point out be repaired with the least possible delay.

Lord HARDWICKE does not stand forward as an
alarmist, willing " to fright the Isle from its pro-
priety." On the contrary, it would have been
more desirable to have avoided the unpleasing
task, could he, consistently with his sense of duty,
have remained silent. He could not be considered
as the advocate of extravagance, for he is too well
aware how greatly the popularity of any Ministry
in this country must depend on financial subjects,
and the power of relaxing even slightly the fiscal
screw that presses so tightly on the most sensitive
point—the pocket. lle knows how great was the
effect produced by the admirable budget of Mr.
DisnAELI, and he would scarcely seek to embarrass
his colleagues by insisting on a heavy outlay. But
the doctor who perceives the seeds of a lingering,
possibly a fatal malady in his patient's constitu-
tion, would not be a true friend, or faithful, if he
did not strive to eradicate them while there is yet
time. It would be a misplaced delicacy that kept
back the unpleasing facts until the evil attained
still more formidable dimensions, when it
might become absolutely incurable. Lord HARD-
WICKE is not one of that character. He
spoke out boldly and manfully, and we trust that
the nation may profit by his candour on a point of
such vital consequence, on which its safety and
honour—nay, even its very existence—so greatly
depend. As the Noble Earl truly remarked, "We
live in a country surrounded by water, and the
protection of our country, our commerce, and our
trade depend upon our floating batteries, on the
Character of the officers who command, and the
efficient equipment of our fleets by the
State." It would, indeed, be a false eco-
nomy a " penny wise and pound foolish"
policy—that permitted any ill-timed parsimony to
derogate from the efficiency of our naval service, or
to endanger the maritime supremacy that has long
been maintained untarnished at an enormous sacri.
flee of blood and treasure.

Lord HARDWICKE has announced, then, that
" the condition of the Navy was now what it had
never been in the times of our sires, and though
such condition was to be regretted, still it did not
arise from any neglect on the part of the Govern-
ment, but by reason of the improvements
daily making in science and art—in the
mode and regulation of the affairs of
the maritime world. It arose alone from
the introduction of steam ships. * * * The
introduction of steam had, as it Were, created in
maritime matters a clean sheet of paper over the
whole world, and had called on all nations to begin
again in nautical matters. They might consider
that sailing vessels were struck out as engines of
* * For the purposes of war they
were at an end, and had been since 1850, when
they first began to propel ships of war by the
screw system."

-war.

These are great facts, the accuracy whereof can-
not be impeached, or their importanee over-
estimated. The battle is no longer to the
strong, but to the most scientific, As well.,

could naked savages hope to contend successfully'
with bows and arrows against drilled and disci-
plined soldiers, armed with Brown Bes 4, as these
very same soldiers to resist men equipped with
Minie or Enfield rifles, by which their opponents
could be shot down before thei • old-fashioned
weapons could inflict the slightest injury; so would
it be equally impossible for one of the old seventy-
fours that rendered such good service under NELSON
to resist one of the screw steamers that ;could run
round her whatever the state of the wind or tide.

We must not be backward in the race, we must
not grudge any price for the best and most effi-
cient ships of war, whatever shape they may

assume.

Lord HARDWICKE thinks that at this moment
there are other Powers that might put our supre-
macy to a very awkward test. We trust that this
may not be exactly so. But at all events it is suffi-
cient that there is even a doubt on the subject.
The nation will cheerfully meet the required
outlay, whatever it may be, to place our naval
affairs in a perfectly satisfactory position.

A magnificent demonstration on Friday illustrated
this year's proceedings of the National Association
for the Promotion of Social Science. It will long
be remembered at Liverpool. It was nothing less
than the assemblage in the Amphitheatre of some
4,000 working men, their wives and children—an
enormous gathering together of honest labourers
and their families to listen to some of the famous
"Parliament Gentlemen." Looking at the crowded
audience you saw, with an occasional sprinkling of
shirt sleeves, that the prevailing costume among
the men was the ordinary work-a-day dress of fus-
tian and corduroy. They were there at last to be
brought face to face with those men of whom they
had so often heard—the champions of their rights and
liberties, fellow-labourers in the cause of their ad-
vancement BROUGHAM, RUSSELL, MORPETII,
and ASHLEY. No wonder that while that little group
of orators and statesmen were assembling in an ad-
joining room, Lord. SANDON exclaimed delightedly to
Lord BROUGHAM—" Only come and look at it ; you
never saw anything equal to it !" or that Lord
BROUGHAM himself, when he stood before the audi-
ence, acknowledged that the sight presented to him
was indeed " most splendid and magnificent." It
was with perfect truth that the noble and learned
Lord spoke to those assembled working men as a
working man himself. A working man, too, so
efficient and energetic that, as Lord JOHN RUSSELL
observed to the assembly afterwards—" in every
object that pertains to the well being of the people,
we cannot go a step without recognising the
hand of my Lord BROUGHAM." A remark
greeted at once, the report tells us, with
" great cheering," and followed up by Lord JOHN
with this happy and brilliant illustration—" When
two great generals," said Lord JOHN, "were carry-
ing on war against each other—TURENNE on the
one side and the Prince DE CONDE on the other—
the Prince DE CONDE had been for some time
absent many hundred miles away. There came an
alarm at night, and TURENNE was told that one
of his cantonments was on fire. He went out to
see it, and he found that such was the activity of
the enemy that one cantonment after another was
set on fire, till there was a whole circle of fire
around him. He said at once, ' the Prince
de CONDE must have arrived.' And what he said
with regard to the art of war, with regard to that
art of destruction, I say to you with regard to the
arts of peace, that when you find some work that
is beneficial to mankind, and that has made pro-
gress, you may say with truth, ' Lord BROUGHAM
must be hem—he must be the leader r " Again—
" Cheers" from the assembled workmen of
Liverpool. Certainly, 1858 has afforded the
noble and - learned lord abundant evidence,
in one way or another, that he is in no re-
spect unappreciated—while he himself has given
signal proofs of late that he has in no particular
deteriorated his own extraordinary powers of in-
tellect.

After the speeches addressed to the working
men of Liverpool by Lord BROUGHAM and Lord
JOHN RUSSELL—both of the noble lords being
greeted, as they deserved to be, with acclamations
—two other popular and celebrated members of
the aristocracy obtained a hearing—the Earl of
CARLISLE and "his noble lordship" the Earl of
SHAFTESBURY. Finally, after a few words from Lord
SANDON, another orator stepped forward to claim
the attention of his fellow-workmen—an honest,
horny-handed Lancashire man, DANIEL GUY, who
obtained the privilege of proposing the thanks of
the meeting to the five noble Parliament gentle.
men who had spoken. There was a touch of Capt.
CUTTLE about the tone of the worthy mechanic ;
as when he said, " There's an old song among
us men something after the following—' There's
a good time coming !" A song written
by one only now in his prime—Dr. MACKAY will
be amused to find himself thrust back into the
remote centuries, like one of our old world ballad-
mongers. " Something after the following" :
" When found, make a note of," and so forth. Yet
DANIEL GUY spoke straight to the very point
—cheerily, hopefully, to his brother workmen
—simple words, having in them a rough
eloquence, very pleasant to listen to or to read.
Happier auspices, altogether, the association could
not well have closed under. They encourage us in
the hope that their annual labours for the promo-
tion of social science may really prove of advan-
tage in bringing the various classes of the commu-
nity into direct communication with each other, to
their mutual benefit and common gratification.

The death of Lord Charles Wellesley will suspend
the showing of the pictures in Apsley House which we
mentioned last week.—The Critic.

The Middlesex Archaeological Society hold their
next meeting on Wednesday, at Enfield. Thechair is to be
taken at one o'clock, by Lord Ebury, and the members
afterwards dine together at four.

Miss Louisa Pyne and Mr. W. Harrison have
takrm Covent-garden for three months, and commence
operations therein at Christmas.—Mr. Lumley has gone to
Paris, and Mr. Gyo has departed for Italy. Musical
World. _ _ _

Madame Anna Bishop has arrived in London,
and is secured for a concert at Oxford ; engaTements are
pending with the directors of the Crystal Palace to make
her ree'tztre at Sydenham before a London audience.—
Musical World. _ _ _

The Sunday Times says that Mr. E. T. Smith
is among the candidates for becoming leseee of Her
Majesty's Theatre.
" King Henry the Fifth" is spoken of as the
Shaksperian play to be revived at Sadler's Wells during the
present season.

It has been remarked," says the Journal du
Havre, " that the Duke de Malakoff always goes to Eng-
land by way of Dieppe; the reason is that the line passes
near his birth-place, Maromme, through a country with
which he is familiar."

Advices from Dresden state that a new census of
the inhabitants of the States of the Zollverein will take
place during the present year. It is fixed for Saxony for
the 3d Dec. _ _ _

We are glad to be informed that the statement
respecting Lord Lyons's dangerous state of health has been
exaggerated. His Lordship has suffered from a return of
his old attack, but his illness lasted only a. short period, and
has now entirely left him.
The Western Times states that Lord Ebrington
is now on his voyage to Madeira to pass the winter in that
genial climate with Lady Ebrington and family.
Henry Dove Sweeting, Esq., of St. John's College,
Cambridge, who stood first in the list of successful candi-
dates in the competitive examination for the Civil Service
of the East India Company in 1856, died a few weeks since,
we regret to say, at Rungpore, Bengal, of fever, aged 25.

LATEST NEWS.

THE AUSTRALIAN MAILS.

(BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.)

SOUTHAMPTON, MONDAY MORNING.

The Cambria, steamer, Captain Anderson, has
just arrived (10.45 a.m.) with the Australian
mails.

The Cambria brings £166,649 in specie.

LISBON, OCT. 15.

The Austerlitz and the Donawerth continue in
the Tagus. The English man-of-war Victory, 101
guns, and the Racoon, 22, have arrived. It is said

that the Portuguese Government have proposed the
mediation of a foreign power to the Marquis de
Lisle de Sivry, who insists on the giving up of the
Charles-Georges. The Viscount de Pavia is ex-
pected at Lisbon.

MADRID, OCT. 16.

The Prince of the Asturias is again convalescent.
The daughter of the Duke of Montpensier is seri-
ously ill. It is reported from Lisbon that the
Portuguese Chambers have been closed. The jour-
nal Opiniano states that the tribunals are occupied
with the affair relative to the seizure of the
Charles-Georges.

The following telegram was received at Mr.
Reuter's office, Oct. 18 :

PARIS, OCT. 18.

The Moni€eur of this mdrning publishes a decree
creating six new Sub-Prefectures in Algeria, and
instituting five new Commissariats in the military
territory.

The squadron assembled at Toulon still remains

there.

FRANCE.

PARIS, SUNDAY.

Marshal Canrobert left the Camp of Chalons
yesterday. All the troops will have taken their
departure by Monday.
An Imperial decree promotes General Ripert,
who commands the 13th Military Division, to the
rank of grand officer of the Legion of Honour. The
same decree also makes one promotion to the rank
of commander, seven to that of officer, and 24 nomi-
nations to that of knight. Thirty-six military
medals have also been awarded.

BOURSE, Oct. 16.—The market has been steady
to-day ; the account of shares, which took place
to-day, passed off easily, with moderate rates of
continuation, Threes have been done at from 73f.
40c. to 73f. 50c. ; Mobilier, 940 f. to 952 f. 50c. ;
Austrian, 660 to 662 f. 50c. ; Lyons, 875 f. to 877 f.
50c. ; Eastern, 730 f. tet 732 f. 50c. ; and Southern,
582 f. 50c. to 5871. 50c. The following were the
last quotations :-
4i per Cents...... 95 90
Do. end month -

3 per Cents 73 20
Do. end month 73 30
Bank Shares 3llO

Credit Fonder
Belgian 41 —
Piedmontese (5)
Roman 93 50
Austrian
Spanish Threes
Home Debt 42 75

Credit Mobilier 927 60
Do. Account

RAILWAYS.

Cash.

Account

Orleans
Northern '
New ditto
Lyons and Mediterranean 872 50 872 50
New ditto
Geneva 627 50
Midi
Western
Eastern
Grand Central —
Sardinian
Austrian
Exchange on London, at sight, paper, 25f. 20c. ; money,
55f 171 c. ; three months, paper, 25f. 28c. ; money, 24f.
25c.