The Sun.
London, England, 1804-05-05 00:00:00

AYLESBURY ELECTION,

Sir G. CORN EwALL, in pursuance of an Order
of the Day, moved, that the House go into a Com-
mittee nn tie Aylesbury Election Bill.

On the question being put by the SPEAKER,
The Marquis of TITCHFIELI) rose to give his
negative to the measure. He did not think any
sufficient case had been nude out, of a nature to war-
rant a proceeding such as the Bill %vent to provide.
A great deal had been said in a farmer discussion, on
the evils arising from Corruption in Elettions for
D7lembers of Parliament. He was ready to grant all.
that could be said in this respell, but the argument,
he thought, did not apply in the present instance, as
it had not been by any means proved that the ma-
jority of the Elettors had been guilty, as pretended
to be stated. It was merely a supposition, for
Which. there was no sufficient evidence before the
House. A number of tl►e Eleaors having been
guilty of Corruption, could be no sufficient reason
for depriving the rest, who were innocent, of their
rights and privileges. Unless, therefore, a proper
Case against the Borough, as such, could be made out,
he could not give his assent to the Sr BAKER'S leav-
ing the Chair.
Sir G. CORNEW ALL supported his Motion, and
contendd that the Bribery and Corruption hail been
so open and flagrant, that there could be nu question
as to their existence.

Ally. ROSE was of opinion, that when cases of
this nature occurred, provision should be made ac-
cording to their importance or exigency. Instances
of this kind occurred on the Journals of the House
as early as the reign of Charles 11. The Honour.
able Gentleman here.went into a detail of several
cases of a similar nature, where the Legislature had
thought it necessary to interfere. The case of
Aylesbury, if possible, was more aggravated than
any of those cases. Not the smallest regard to de.
cency had been observed, hut the Corruption car-
Tied CT in the most avowed and public manner. The
belhnaa had been employed to give public notice of
the ;;;;;Ds that would be given, and so great a num-
loe; :IA assembled at the, public-house for this pur-
pose, that the bellman on his return could not get
admittarhce. Fifty of Mr. Be NiT'S voters, it appear-
ed, had'raken money, and of 417 who voted oh
other side, a very great ni jority had received
money. As a proof of the general Corruption of
that Borough, the people were extremely` indignant
at another Gentleman who pretended to be a Candi-
date, without at the came time offering them money.

Mr. FRANCIS did not think the measure pro.
posed by the 15111 the most effectual way of checking
the evil complained of. Had it been the"purpote of
the Bill to deprive those of the right of voting who
had ahuAed their Privilege, or did the punishmtnt,
by extending the franchise, fall only on the present
persons who were deemed guilty, there could per.
haps be little objedion to the measure ; but as it
mist affe6i those to come also, w'ho coati have no
shale in the corruption complained of, lie would give
his vote against the Motion,

Sir yOHN NEWPOATcontendedt that the Bill
went to remedy the evil complained of; by providing;
a pure body of EleCtors. Those who do not exercise
their right of Eleaion, by a wise Aft of the Legis- '
lature are deprived of it, and ought not the House
much more to take it away from those who bad made
a bad use of it. it had been stated, that the Preamble
does not' justify the Bill. The Preamble, however,
stated, that if some remedy be not applied, the evil
in all probability will go on. In acceding to the Mo-
tion, therefore, you as from the opinion of your
Committee. The instances of corruption, on which
the opinion of that Committee was founded, were
of a very open and flagrant nature, and were by no
means of a new standing. John Wilkes used to say,
that the people of Aylesbury were very good friends
to him, for they had always his guinea to any other
man's twenty shillings. Would the House therefore
leave it in the power of every pretended Reformer
to say, that they were either unwilling, or had not
within themselves the power to reform ? It was un-
necessary, he thought, to multiply instances in which
the House had interfered in similar cases. He would
admit of influence arising from family connexion with
a Borough, and from benefits or patronage of long
standing, hut deprecated that influence which arose
from money only, and by which a man, who had
never seen the Borough before, assd who could have
no interest in its welfare, might carry the Elettion
against those who were its natural proteaors.
Mr. HURST was decidedly against, the Motion.
Its natural tendency, he thought, was to unhinge the
Constitution. From the grounds on which the fran-
chise of a Borough rested, he argued, it could not be
legally and constitutionally taken away, more than
the privileges of that House. The greater part of
those besides, he insisted, who had taken the money,
were not voters, but belonged to the mob. Would
they, therefore, take away the rights of the Borough,
because the minor part of the voters may have been
guilty of a misdemeanour? He resisted the idea,
that Mr. Brut had nothing to recommend him but
his money. He knew that Gentleman, and believed
there never was a better man. He was a merchant
in the city of London. Instead of being objection-
able, he thought a mixture in the representation of
the Country must be attended with advantages.
• Mr. ROSE disclaimed every idea of saying any
thing to the prejudice of Mr. BENT. He meant only
that that Gentleman had nothing 'to recommend him
at Aylesbury, and insisted, that, in ope instance,
out of two hundred and seventy Voters, two hun-
dred and twenty had taken money.
Mr. LEIGH said, he would give his vote in the
mean time for the Committee, but unless the fill un.•
derwent some changes, he would think it his duty
to oppose it in its future stages.
Sir JOHN NEweoiT explained.
The MASTER of the ROLLS, in a very able and
argumentative Speech, opposed the Motion. He
complained of the Supporters of this measure having
so often shifted their ground. He wished that the
Gentlemen would abide by some principle, and let
that principle be fairly stated to the House. Instead
of this, however, they at one time support the mea-
sure on the ground of delinquency : it you oppose
them in this, they tell you that it will prevent ,cor-
rupt pradices hereafter. Ile wished them either to
maintain what they alledged to be the fact, that the
majority of tlae Voters have been guilty of Bribery,
or to adhere to the other principle, that it would
prevent it for the future. He observed, that accord.
ing to their mode of reasoning, they made a Corpo-
rate Body of the EleCtors, which they really were
not. He adverted to the case of Shoreham, and
shewed from the peculiarity of the circumstances,
that the interference of Parliament became there
necessary. But should the Supporters of this mea-
sure, he argued, go on the ground of Misery and
Corruption, then it will follow that the Minority
can forfeit the Rights of the Majority. But so far
from this, be did not
,see that even the Majority,
acting individually, as they must do here, could
with any justice, fothit the rights of the Minority.
But Gentlemen said again, that increasing the num-
ber of Voters could be no hardship on those who
had the original Franchise, as it was only giving
them more assistance in the exercise of a duty which
they owed to the Public. This was certainly going
.upon a principle very different from any otherßo-
rough. Reformer he had heard of but even on this
ground it could be no punishment, which they also
professed it to be. After having viewed the ques-
tion in various other lights, he coucluded by oppos.
ing the Motion.
Mr. DICXENSON argued at some length in oppo.
sition to the Learned Gentleman who had sat down.

Mr. WINDHAM, with his usual ability, opposed
the Motion.

Mr. C. WYNNE spoke warmly in favour of the
Motion.

The House having divided, thcre appeared for
the Motion 72, against it 56.
The House then went into the. Committe.% pro
forma, and asked leave to sit again.
The House went also into a Committee on the
Militia Subaltern Officers Bill. The Report was
ordered to be received to-morrow.
Adjourned till to-inorrow.

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THE SUN.

SALEM QUIS DICERS VALSVg AUDZAT ?

LONDON, MAY 5, iBo4.

WE feel it to be our duty, in the present most in.
teresting situation of affairs, to caution our Readers
against giving credit to the various rumours and
speculations which are afloat respeting the new
Administration, because we can assure them °P-
on unquestionable authority, that no final arrange.
ment has yet been made. At the same time we
have no doubt, from the information of which we

:at in possession, that we shall very speedily have
it in our power to congratulate the Public upon the
formation of an Administration embracing such a
portion of talent, energy, and rank, as will entitle
it to the perfea Confidence of the Country at large,
and the respea of all Europe.

Yesterday morning His MAJESTY walked in the
Queen's Garden.
About twelve o'clock His MAJESTY gave au-
diences to the LORD CHANCELLOR. and Mr. AD-
DINGTON.

Yesterday, about one o'clock, HER MAJESTY
and the PRINCESSES took an airing on the King's
Road.

Yesterday the DUKES Of CUMBERLAND and CAM.
BRIDGE dined with HER MAJESTY. .

His Royal Highness the DUKE of YORK held yes-
terday a Military Levee at the Horse Guards, at
which sever,:l General Officers were present. Lord
HOBART and the SECRETARY \at WAR had each a
long conference with His Royal Highness.
Captain GREY, Commissioner of Sheerness Dock.
yard, it is said, is to form one of the new Board of
Admiralty.
A Letter from Folkstone, dated Thursday even.
ing, contains the following information :—'' The
report of guns was distinctly heard this afternoon
from the French Coast, near Boulogne ; and the'
weather was so clear, that we could observe three

Brigs and two lugger-rigged Vessels come out of
Boulogne Harbour, and run along shore, as it is sup.
posed for the purpose of getting to sea. Only one of
our Ships has been seen off Boulogne, and she drifted
with the tide. The wind has got round to the S. E.
to-day, and the Convoy under Dungeness are ob-
served getting under weigh, for the purpose of sail-
ing before dark. For the first time. this season, a
great number of lights were descried last night upon
the- French coast, which it is supposed arises from
the French Troops having encamped there within
this day or two. We cannot otherwise account for
this circumstance."

Mr. ER ANC Is's Speech, in the House of Commons,
on the Motion of Thanks to the Governor-General
and Military Commanders in India, displayed solid
reasoning, as well as great moderation and candour.
He very shrewdly observed, that it General W EL-
Lest.Ey was to be praised for the gallantry and judg-
ment with which he defeated ten times the number
of troops under his command, his success by no
!pearls justified those who had sent him upon so ha-
zardous an enterprize with such inferior force. At
\all events, he very justly remarked, that nobody
should be included in a Vote of Thanks whose con-
;101 might be hereafter the subjeft of inquiry, and
possibly of censure.
Political Observers may at present find much
amusement in noticing the graftual progress of the
Ministerial Papers, from unbounded praises of their
late Employers, through the whole art of trimming.
They are at present very evidently preparing to
render the same servile homage to whoever may

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succeed. The whole indeed excites a mournful re-
fleainn in minds above such base venality, and that

wish to support those who will best support their
Country. Such has teen our condua respeling the
illustrious Statesman who, we trust, is abdut to re-
sume his former state, to enlighten and invigorate
the National Councils, and give confidence and se.
entity to the Empire.
JOSEPH BONAPARTE bas done wisely in quitting
Eh! Senate for a command at.Boulogne, as, in case of
any forMidable commotion at Paris, he will be out of
:be 'way. Considering the critical state of the CHI Et
CONSUL, in consequence of his murder of the Duke
D'ENcti lEN and Pt CH EGRII, and his designs against
IVIoR Etip, who has done so much for the Republic,
JOSEPH BONAPARTE may be though; to have aaed
upon the provident systtm of- the ;:tr.7.t, wrio run
from g falling house.
It is said that M. arro, the French Minister at
Munich, having found much difficulty in devising
the" necessary expedients for arresting the Emigrants
in that city, suspected of, being concerned in the
late Conspiracy, wrote to them, expressing his
wish that they wouki :line with him,' in order thit
he might have an opportunity of hearing from their
own lips, a statemem of the grievances of which
they complained. Not suspeaing his base design,
they accepted of his invitation. After dinner, he
jocosely told them, that, he had yet another repast
fc.r them, which corvisted in having them all bound
together, put into a carriage, and instantly sent off
prisoners to Paris,"
The new coinage of Crown Pieces from Dollars,
is now going+. on with all possible dispatch, at Mr.
BoLTON's Difint, the Soho, near Birmingham. With,
in these fete✓ days, three waggons loaded with dol-
lars were sent from the Bank, under a proper escort
to that place, each waggon containing about seven
tons weight, where eight presses are employed at the
same time, each of which will strike 66 in a minute,
giving the impression on both sides at one stroke,
ars are so simply constructed as to be worked by
time man, without the smallest danger, the piece
discharging itself from the die, when another in-
stantly slips in its plare. His Majesty's head, and
the reverse, are done in a masterly style, forming a
very beautiful coin, and will be extremely difficult
to counterfeit.

On the night of the zfist of April died, his Serene
Highness the Reigning Duke of SAXE-GOTHA.
Last week, on pulling down an old house that
stood at the East corner of Sr. Martin's-lane, Lewes,
in Sussex, belonging to Mr. PAINE, tallow.chandler,
the workmen discovered under the heitrth of the
kitchen, in a chalky soil, a hole, about four feet
square, filled with wood ‘ashes and light mould,
which excited their curiosity, and led them to its
full gratification, by emptying it, and finding at the
bottom, fifteen feet deep, a silver ring, ornamented
with heart beneath a rose, or some other flower,
and the mouldering remains of the coffins of two
children, ;which, as the building was ancient, it is
presumed must have been there deposited several
centuries, and probably thus deep,, for the more
effectual concealment of some atrocious murders.
On removing the rubbish from other parts of the
prtrnises, two silver coins were found, one of ED-
W4"l and the other of