The Sun.
London, England, 1867-03-02 00:00:00

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES.

In reply to Captain VIVIAN,
General PEEL raid the supplementary army estimates
would be laid on the table on Monday next.

CLERKS IN GOVERNMENT PRISONS.

In reply to Mr. Lusx,

Mr. HUNT said the petition of the clerks in the Go-
vernment prisons for an increase of salary was under con-
sideration.

THE REFORIt BILL.

Mr. J. WHITE asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether, in the preparation of the proposed Reform Bill,
the practice adopted in 1858 of availing of the services of
the professional agents of the Conservative party, in lieu
of the ordinary advisers of the Government, would b
s: Bing that stir:li a in ,),le of prece•lure Liti to a
co,t of ,C 3,606 17s. 21., as per Troasury Minute 13th June,

The CILI-NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said no
equity draughtsman was at present attached to the. Tre-
asury, and he had tried to secure the services of a gentle-
man of undoubted talent, but he had not been successful.
Mr. Pring, who was attached to the Horne-office, and who
nobly drew up the bills, had b.,an of late too much over-
worked to be asked to draw up the Reform
Lill, and, under such circumstances, the best talent
at command had been secured. The cost referred to by
the hon. member was not only for drawing up the bill of
1559, but for various other matters connected with it. The
cost of preparing the bill ho would have the honour of in•
troducing would be such as would be quite satisfactory tc
the hon. gentleman. .
Mr. GLADSTONE asked the right hon. gentleman
whether he hal uudentood him rightly the otller
eveumg to state that the iitiQr7ll Bill would be introduced

next Thursday, so much misapprephension seemed to
exist on the subject in consequence of what the right hon.
gentlemen stated last night.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
statement he had made last night was quite consistent with
that he had previously made on the first occasion, and he
said he hoped to be able to introduce the bill on• Thursday
week, but he carefully guarded himself against saying
positively that it would be on that day.
Mr. GLADSTONE said great anxiety existed on the
matter, and, therefore, he hoped the right hon. gentleman
would state the exact day he proposed to introduce the
bill as early as possible.
Tho CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said on
Monday next he would name the day he would introduce
the bill.

ARRESTING A REPORTER.

In reply to Mr. O'BEIRNR,

Lord NAAS said that on the 20th of Feb., a message
was sent to the telegragh office at Killarney, which, with
ono exception, viz., the cutting of a telegraph wire was
entirely untrue. Inquiry was made, and ultimately
the person who wished it transmitted was taken into
custody. The name of the person was Tracy, and he was
a reporter attached to the Cork Herald. He was told he had
been guilty of a very serious offence against the law, and
after an examination he was committed for trial. Bail,
however, had been taken for his appearance at the sessions.
As notice of action had been served on the magistrates for
false imprisonment, and Mr. Tracy had yet to undergo
his trial, the house would excuse him saying anything
further on the matter.
SUGAR DUTIES.

In reply to Mr. GLADSTONE,
Mr. HUNT said, provided all matters were
settled with the Dutch Government, the reduced
duties would come into effect on the Ist of April, but if
matters were not arranged by that time then it would be
the Ist of May.

On the motion for going into committee of supply, nume-
rous and varied subjects were brought under the notice of
the house, though only a very few possessed any features
calculated to excite the public interest.
Mr. B. COCHRANE descanted at some length upon the
alleged iniquities attendant on the Coolie emigration from
the East Indies, and urged that the system ought not to
receive further extension, but should be conducted under
more efficient checks and restraints.
In opposition to this view of the hon. member Mr.
ADDERLEY, as Under Secretary for the Colonies, con-
tended that the emigration of Coolies was most useful alike
to the Coolies themselves, to the negroes in the West
Indies, and the planters. No cultivation required such
steady and continuous labour as that of sugar, and in the
West Indies and the Mauritius the negroes could not be
relied upon for this. If the advice of Mr. Cochrane were
followed, the result would simply be to put an extinguisher
upon the whole system.
In the same view Mr. CARD WELL treated the subject.
So far as the Coolies were concerned they were able to
obtain in the West India islands an amount of wages that
they could not get in their own country, whilst their im-
portation was beneficial to those countries and the negroes
themselves. From its very inception to its close the sys-
tem of Coolie emigration was surrounded with every pos-
sible guard : the immigrants at the expiration of their con-
tracts were free to return to their own country, and they
frequently did so with considerable savings. Abuses might
occur, it was true, but what system was entirely free from
abuse? That, however, was no reason why a system should
be put an end to that had been productive of so much
benefit.

Sir W. S. MAXWELL, in asking the Chancellor of the
Exchequer whether, in his proposed scheme of Parliamen-
tary Reform, he contemplated giving any additional repre-
sentation to Scotland, observed, that having assisted to
take the question of Reform out of the hands of the late
Government, hon. members on the. Ministerial side of the
house were bound to see that the interests of the country
were as carefully weighed by their leader and his Cabinet
as they would have been by their predecessors in office.
Ho pressed upon his right hon. friend's consideration,
therefore, whether it would be fair, handsome, or wise,
that an opinion should grow up in Scotland that it was not
treated on that side of the house as it would have been by
the ether; and that, in fact, it was to bo deprived of its
fair share of representation because the timepiece which
regulated the opinions of the Treasury bench went a little
slower than that which regulated the opinions of the Oppo-
sition.

The mooting of this question was the signal for one
Scotch member after another rising and pressing the claim
of their country to increased representation on the ground
of property, wealth, and intelligence.
In reply, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said that Ministers had not yet arrived at a conclusion that
there was too much representative power in England, al-
though they thought it might be more efficiently distri-
buted. Ho could not admit, therefore, that in attempting
to improve the representation of the peopleof England and
Wales, the Government were bound at the same time to
consider the claims of any other part of the United King-
dom. Scotch members were under a great error if they
supposed that Ministers were insensible to their claims or
unwilling to consider them ; but they could not undertake
to do so on the condition that the improved representation
of Scotland was to be accomplished by the sacrifice of the
interests of England.

The house then went into committee of supply, and a
vote of £56,000 was taken for excess of civil service esti-
mates on the year ending March 31, 1866.
The Trades Uuions Bill was read a third time and
passed. _ _

Mr. Secretary WALPOLE moved for leave to bring in
two bills for the extension of the Factory Acts, and for
regulating the hours of labour for children, young persons,
and women employed in workshops. The first of those
bills, he explained, would apply to six different heads of
trades, and include all establishments in which ono hun-
dred persons or upwards were employed ; whilst the second
related to establishments of lesser magnitude. In the
former instance all the provisions of the Factory Acts
would come into operation, with regard to ventilation and
cleanliness, security of life and health, hours of employ-
ment of children and young persons, and compulsory at-
tendance at school for the purposes of education. No
children or women would be permitted to be employed at
night work except in particular trades, and then only
subject •to the provision that they should not be
employed either during the preceding or succeeding day,
or more than a certain number of nights in a fortnight.
The second bill, he believed, would do more for the
benefit of those who could not protect themselves
than any other measure that could be devised, for it
would protect upwards of 11,000 of that class. Its main
object was to secure that no children under eight years of
age should be employed; to regulate the employment of
children between eight and thirteen years of age; and, as
regarded all young persons and woman, to regulate their
working hours, not absolutely, but very nearly according
to the principles of the Factory Acts. The trades affected
would be the lace manufacture, hosiery, and some others.
Inspectors would be appointed to supervise them in diffe-
rent parts of the kingdom, and the local authorities would
have power to enforce under penalties, whether on parents
or employers, compliance with the provisions of the act.
Mr. H. BRUCE was of opinion that the bill would strike
a fatal blow at some very serious evils, and that the right
hon. gentleman had only to extend his legislation to the
case of children employed in agriculture to complete the
good work.
Mr. E. POTTER was grateful to the Home Secretary
for his proposed measure, but hoped that before it reached
its next stage the right hon gentleman would see his way
clear to providing for the compulsoty education of the
ehildren and young persons to whom the bill applied.
Mr. WALPOLE admitted that the absence of any pro-
vision for compulsory education was a defect ; but ho was
not without hopes of being able to introduce clauses for
satisfactorily dealing with that difficult subject. His own
idea was that before a child was allowed to be employed a
certificate should be required that he possessed a certain
amount of edacation ; and that until, a certain age he
should not be employed more than six hours a day. The
question, however, should receive consideration.
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.
Leave was also given to Mr. HADFIELD to introduce a
bill for facilitating the acquisition and enjoyment of sites
for buildings for religious, educational, literary, scien-
tific, and other charitable purposes; and to Mr. CAVE a
bill amending the act of last session for the protection of
oyster and mussel fisheries.
The house rose at 25 minutes to 10 o'clock.

A young man, aged 19, named Lemaire, has been
tried at the Valais de- Justice, and sentenced to
death for the murder of his stepmother. It appears
he objected to his father's marriage with the widow,
and determined to prevent it: He provided a rope,
arranged a noose, fixed it to the wall, and armed
himself with a knife and razor. On the widow
entering the room he slipped the noose over her
head and stabbed her with the knife, while she
struggled to release herself, inflicting no fewer than
twenty wounds. He boldly avowed the murder in
court, and regretted that. she had struggled so much
as to alarm the neighbours, which led to the failure
of his plan to kill her daughter and his own father.
" It is clearly your duty," he said, addressing the
Court, "to avenge society,' and have me guillo-
tined ; and if you shrink from that duty, gentlemen
of the Court and gentlemen of the jury, a heavy
responsibility will lie at your door."
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