The Sun.
London, England, 1867-08-16 00:00:00

PRIVILEGE.

On tho motion that the Speaker do leave the chair to go
into committee,
Mr. WHALLEY said he had to ask the house to give

him a few minutes attention while he brought under its
notice a case which he considered involved the rights of
members.. The seats under the gallery he believed
generallywere appropriated by the Speaker to gentlemen
particularly interested in the debat'‘,-aud on making
application to the Speaker for the admission of Mr.
Beales to-day the favour had been refused him, the
Speaker informing him that last evening the ad-
mission ho had obtained for Mr. Boales had been, without
his consent, extended to two other persona, and therefore
he declined to have further communication with him on
the subject. lie stated that he knew nothing of the three
persons admitted, but he distinctly stated, when he was
applying for admission to the seats uuder the gallery, that
Mr. Ileales and Colonel Dickson might be admitted. The
Speaker had also told him that nothing he could state
with respect to his recollection of the matter would alter
his (the Speaker's) impression of what he had said. He
claimed the right—
Col. NORTH rose to order; he should like to know
what was the breach of privilege the hon. member com-
plained of ?
Tho SPEAKER said they were waiting to hear.
Mr. WHALLEY said he would inform the house of that
when he had sufficiently collected himself. (Hear, hear,
and laughter.) He could say for himself that he did men-
tion the name.of Col. Dickson, and he thought it was too
much for the Speaker to say he did not, because ho did not
hear distinctly. (Cries of "Order, order," "Chair, chair.")
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
when a question of privilege was being brought forward'
the greatest latitude was always allowed, but it had given
him, and he was sure every other gentleman present, pain
to hear the Speaker, who filled one of the highest positions
in the kingdom-(hear, hear, and cheers)—and who was
entitled to the highest respect—(hoar, hear, and cheers)—
addressed in the manner the hon. gentleman had done.
(Hear, hear.) He therefore begged to ask whether the
matter before the house involved any question of privi-

lege? (Cheers.)
The SPEAKER said had the' question affected any
Other perscn but himself, be should have stopped the
hon. member for Peterborough sooner than he had done.
He should have liked the subject to have closed there, but
the House would permit him to say one word or two as to
what occurred. The hon. gentleman had spoken to him
relative to a gentleman who was desirous of being present
during the debate. Ho told him that yesterday he had
applied for the admission of one gentleman, which was
granted ; but instead of confining the admission to one
person, three had been introduced, and that he considered
such a proceeding unbecoming and improper. The hon.
gentleman had begun his observations with a mis
statement ; he had never refused admission to
any gentleman, and he was only too glad to
grant a place under the gallery to Mr. Beales ; and
instead of refusing he hal only asked the hon. member
for Peterborough to wait until he had disposed of some
business in which he was engaged, when he addressed
him before they spoke on the subject he had mentioned.
(Hear, hear.) He extremely regretted that he should have
been compelled to address those few words to the house.
Mr. WHALLEY again rose, but was met by strong cries
of " Order, order."
The SPEAKER said he was compelled to say there
was no question before the house in which the hon. gen-
tleman had a right to speak.
The lION. MEMBER again attempted to address the
house, but the Speaker, without taking the slightest
notice, put the question, which being carried, he left the
chair, and the house went into committee on the
REGULATION OF THE- PARKS BILL.
Mr. DENMAN moved that the chairman report pro-
gress. He said the bill was ono that could not pass during
the present session, and therefore he hoped it would not be
pressed forward by the Government.
Mr. GILPIN hoped the Government would not go ou
with the bill, even though the first clause had been given
up. It was one that could lead to nothing but heartburn-
ings and discontent, and that being the case, it would be
but an act of prudence for the Government to entirely
withdraw the bill.
Mr. HARDY said the observations that had been made
on that occasion were much more moderate than formerly
was the case. He could not, however, state the course it
was intended to pursue with respect to the bill before the
question before the committee was disposed of.
A brief debate ensued, in which it was suggested that
the Government should portion off a small part of Hyde
Park asa place where public meetings might be held. The
adoption of sucha reasonable proposal, it was stated, would
prove acceptable to all parties.
The house then divided on Mr. Denman's motion that
the Chairman leave the chair, when there appeared--
For the motion ................................. 31
Against it . ......... 8G
Majority against the m0ti0n......... —55
Mr. B. COCHRANE hoped, after such a satisfactory
decision, the Government would drop the bill for the pre-
sent session. The principle had been vindicated, and
therefore he hoped they would agree to his suggestion.
Mr. H. SHERIDAN then moved that the Chairman
should report progress, and other members exhibiting an
intention to follow him in talking out the bill,
Mr. Secretary HARDY said that, without yielding to
the threats and intimidation contained in letters addressed
to himself, or the language which had been indulged in
out of doors, ho was compelled to own that it was hopeless
to attempt getting the bill through committee this session
in the face of the opposition raised by an obstinate
minority. Under those circumstances, the only course open
to him was to assent to the motion that the Chairman
leave the chair."
The motion to report progress was then negatived, and
the question that the chairman leave the chair agreed to.
The bill was therefore lost.
The Royal Aiilitaty Canal Bill was read a second time.
The Agricultural Gangs Bill and the County Courts
Acts Amendment Bill were read a third time, and passed.
The London Coal and Wine Duties Continuance Bill
and the Thames Embankment and Metropolis (Loans)
Bill were withdrawn ; and on the motion of Mr. Mosx,,
the author of the measure, the Lords' amendments to the
Banns of Matrimony Bill were ordered to bo considered a
month hence, a technical method of getting rid of a bill in
an amended and objectionable form.
The sitting was then suspended.
The evening sitting was occupied chiefly with the con-
sideration of the Traffic Regulation (Metropolis) Bill,
which was passed through committee after undergoing
several emendations.
On the order for considering the
knitsamendme to the
Consecration of Churches and Churchyards Bill, Gilpin
moved the insertion of a clause to the effect that when any
land is added to an existing churchyard a portion of it
should to allotted for burials of Dissenters, and that the
amount and situation of such unconsecrated space should
be determined by the parish vestry, subject to the approval
of one of the principal Secretaries of State.
The clause was opposed by Mr. Secretary Hardy, sup-
ported by Mr. Candlish, and upon a division rejected by
33tto 14. The bill was then read a third time and passed.
Tho Lords' amendments to the Turnpike Acts Continu-
ance Bill were opposed by Mr. Nowdogato
on the ground
that their lordships had struck out a money clause, and
thus interforedwith the peculiar privilege of the House of
Commons; but on a division the amendments were agreed
to by 30 to 1.
The Representation of the People (Scotland) Bill, which
stood for committee, was withdrawn without meat comaren maent, the
only Scotch member present being Mr. AV L, ho
"gave no sign."
The house adjourned at twenty minutes to two o'clock
until three this day.

GREAT E.IB7ERN RAILWAY.

The usual half-yearly meeting of the shareholders of this
company was held yesterday, at the London Tavern—Mr •
0. II Turner in the chair.
The OILAIMISS, in moving the adoption of the report,
admitted that there had boon a considerable dim'nution in
the traffic during the past half year, which he attributed to
the competition with the Groat Northern and Mid-
land. In the course of his speech, which
elicited both applause and strong demonstrations
of disapproval, he assured the shareholders that the
bill which had passed through Parliament,
enabling the
company to raise £3,000,000, would enable them to over-
come all their difficulties.
This statement met with some hisses, and one share-
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stormy discussion ensued,
a iardmolitted.
A veto of thanks closed
The report was ultimatelyto tale chairman
C3nsuring tiro conduct of the directors-
the proceedings.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.—Ths Day.

(By Telegraph.)
GRAVESEND, Friday Morning.

Arrived, Aug. 15. —Collector, from %Vyborg ; Endea-
vour, from; Dinan ; Helene, from Trinidad de Cuba ;
Souvenir, from Nykobin ; Matoaka, from Petersburg ;
City of Bombay, from Calcutta.
Arrived, Aug. 16.—Leo, steamer, from Rotterdam ;
Triton, steamer, from Boulogne.
Sailed, Aug. 15.—Cid, steamer, for Bilboa.
Sailed, Aug. 16.—Panther, steamer, for Boulogne;
E. W. Stettsou, fur New York; Martlet, and Lord John
Russell, steamers, for Duukirk.

DEAL, Friday Morning.
Anchored—Sulerde, from London, fur tibia; John
Bull, from Loudon, for Quebec; Medora, from London, fc,r
St. Helena.
Passed—Cid, screw steamer, from London, for Bilboa ;
Royal Standard, from London,-for Ifonibay ; Seine of
:Can.nseLecrew ptettmer, from Laudon, for Amu.