The Sun.
London, England, 1867-05-28 00:00:00

DIPERIAL PARLIA.IYFENT

MOUSE OF COMMONS.—This DAY.

The SPEAKER took the chair at two o'clock.
REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE BILL.

Tho house wont into committee on this bill.

The discussion was resumed upon the proposal to
adopt the following reconstruction of the 35th clause :
--" Where any occupier of a dwelling-house or
other tenement for which the owner at the time
of the passing of this act is rated, or is liable to be rated,
would be entitled to be registered as occupier in
pursuance of this act, at the first registration of Parlia-
mentary voters to be made after the passing of this act, if
he had been rated to the poor rate for the whole of the re-
quired period, such occupier shall, notwitstanding he
may not have been rated prior to the 29th September,
1867, as an ordinary occupier, be entitled to be registered
subject to the following conditions : first that ho has been
duly rated as an ordinary occupier to all poor rate., in re-
spect of the premises, after the liability of the owner to
be rated to the poor rate has ceased under the provi-
sions of this act ; second, that ho has before the
20th July, 1868, paid all poor rates which have become
payable from him as an ordinary occupier in respect to the
premises up to the preceding sth day of January, together
with all the arrears of poor rates, if any, duo from the
owner before his liability to be rated ceased as herein-
before mentioned."
Mr. DEN MAN objected to the insertion of the date,
viz, 20th July, 1868; he thought the matter should be left
open.
The CILA.NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
could not agree with the hon. and learned gentleman. It
was desirable that the measure should be a complete one,
and he hoped the house would adopt the clause as it stood.
Mr. GLADSTONE thought the matter very important.
There was an amendment, however, previous to it which
he thought it desirable should be made in the last proviso,
and that was to introduce the words "or shall have been
demanded" after the word "payable" in the last proviso.
I LEFT SITTING. I

THE REFORM BILL AND PAROCHIAL
RATING.

A deputation from the various metropolitan
vestries waited yesterday afternoon upon the Earl
of Derby at his official residence in Downing-street,
in order to draw the attention of Government to the
practical effect of the proposed amendments to the
Reform Bill enabling occupiers of houses now com-
pounded for to be rated instead of the owners. It
was pointed out by Mr. Greenwell, vestry clerk of
Marylebone that previously to 1822 there was the
greatest difficulty felt in Marylebone in collecting
the rates from occupiers of tenements under £2O,
and that considerable sums were lost to the parish
owing to the fact that the rates could not be col-
lected from such persons. The local act passed that
year provided that the owners of property under
£2O should be rated for the future, and the paro-
chial rates for such inferior houses were thus re-
ceived with regularity and certainty. If the proposal
of Mr. Hodgkinson or of Mr. Disraeli were adopted
the difficulty of 1822 would again be experienced,
and the loss to the rates would amount to a consi-
derable sum. The parish could not afford to lose
the amount due from defaulting occupiers, and it
would have to be imposed upon other occupiers
who now paid heavy rates in the shape of increased
rating. This evil would be felt to a great extent in
West-end parishes, but far more so in the east end.
Deputations from Bethual-green, Hackney, Poplar,
and other parishes corroborated Mr. Greenwell's
statement that the loss to the parishes by the adop-
tion of the proposed amendments would be very
considerable, amounting, in some cases, to a fifth,
and even a third of the amount of rates collected.
It was pointed out that in cases where the occupier
of a house now compounded f or, chose to pay his
his rate personally, his landlord would not lower the
increased rent which he had previously demanded
in order to pay the parochial rates due on the house.
In that case, the profit would be to the owner of
the house, for he would not have to pay the com-
pounded rate as heretofore, and the expense,
annoyance, and loss would all fall upon the parish.
In one of the east-end parishes 3,000 summonses
for non-payment of poor's rates had just been signed
by the magistrate. If the proposed amendment were
agreed to, the speakers had no hesitation in saying
that the number of defaulters would be doubled. It
was stated that there were above 70,000 houses in
London in which the owner paid the rate, and a
speaker urged upon his lordship that the pro-
vision of the bill to which allusion had been made
should not apply to the metropolis. The Earl of
Derby, in reply, said the principle of the Go-
vernment bill was that the citizen who lived
in a house a certain time, who paid his rate
by a certain day, and who was trusted by his
fellow-citizens to discharge his obligations, should
have a vote. Now, in the cases brought before him
by the deputation it was alleged the tenant of a com-
pounding landlord paid the rate in his rent, and
therefore ought-to have a vote. That was not so,
for such tenant did not pay the full rate. The Go-
vernment were desirous to meet, as far as possible,
the wishes of the House of Commons—but the prin-
ciple that no man should have a vote unless he were
rated and personally paid his rates was one from
which the Ministry would not swerve. If the bill
were passed, the Government would be urged by
the deputation, but he distinctly wished them to
understand that he did not compromise the Govern-
ment to do anything in the matter one way or the
other. He believed the proposal of the Chancellor
of the Exohequer that the owner might continue to
pay rate as heretofore, provided he and the tenant
agreed to it, would be found most satisfactory in
the solution of the difficulty. He fully agreed with
the deputation as to the financial difficulty they felt
in the case ; but he must remind them that her
Majesty's Government had also to look at the ques-
tion from a political point of view. The Chancellor
of the Exchequer, who was present at the interview,
expressed in a few words his concurrence with the
' Premier, and ,the deputation,! after thanking the
noble lord and the right hon. gentleman, then retired.

ARISTOCRATIC SHOOTING AT THE

GUN CLUB.

There was a very- great gathering on Saturday at the
Gun Club Grounds, Wormholt Scrubs, Shepherd's-bush,
to shoot for the " Oaks Open Handicap," that being a
"sweepstakes of 5 sovs each, 1 sov forfeit, for peers, mem-
bers of Parliament, officers in the army and navy on full
pay, and members of all the aristocratic clubs; also the new
club at Edinburgh, certain Paris clubs, and all the jockey
clubs in Europe." The conditions were as usual, Mr. G.
Arthur Battcock, the secretary of the Gun Club, being
handicapper and referee. There were 45 original entries,
of whom 37 came to the shooting point, and the large ad-
dition of 10 post entries, making the prizes—first, £l5O ;
second, £6O; third, £25. The excellence of the handi-
capping may be estimated by the very limited number of
forfeits (three gentlemen, by-the-bye, arriving in the middle
of the third round, half au hour too late), and the post en-
tries, one thereof, vs will be seen, taking the second prize.
Certainly the weather was as unfavourable as could
well be, a strong bitter wind blowing only benefiting. the
"ring" batters; for though it helped the birds oftentimes
in the ground, ascout's" buttery never let ono escape. With
fairly punctual regard to time, Captain Baskerville com-
menced, lie being the top weight, and the birds were killed
or missed, as will be seen by reference to the subjoined
score, which we may, however, thus summarise as to the
❑umbers. In the first round 28 were killed and 19 missed.
In the second round the shooting improved, 31 birds being
killed as against 16 that got away, but six gentlemen,
having missed two birds, were not called up again. It was
just as the last bird but ono in this round was being
shot at that Mr. Percival llambro came on to the ground
and "post entered," an exceedingly fortunate visit as tha
result proved. The third round was nearly "trick and
tie," as out of 41 birds, 21 were gathered; but 13 gentle-
men who missed had previously done so, and they there-
fore had thenceforward the pleasure of looking on left.
The fourth round still further thinned tho ranks of the
competitors, as 11 birds out of 28 got away, and eight gen-
tlemen retired. In the fifth circle five more retired, and

three others missed, leaving 15 for the final round. Of
these Mr. Percival Ilambro, Mr. Spencer Lucy, Viscount
Stormont (the president of the club), Mr. Henry Rao Reid,
and Sir Charles Legard, Bart., had killed five each, and
ten other gentlemen four. Of the gentlemen 'abovenamed
Mr. Lucy and Mr. Hambro killed, the noble president being
very unfortunate with a rattling good bird, that only just
managed to perch on the palings, and drop dead on the
other side. Of those who had killed four, Mr. J. Joe,
V.C., C. 8., Captain A. Steuart, Mr. J. Davies, Captain
Digby Boycott, and Mr. Cl. G. Brodie, missed, leaving Mr.
Spencer Lucy and Mr. Percival Hambro to shoot off the
tie for the first and second prizes, the third being left
between dip eight gentlemen whose names are recorded
hereunder, the final award being Mr. Spencer Lucy first
prize (£150); Mr. Percival Ilambro, upon whom a large
amount of money was laid when ho had killed four birds,
second prize (£60); and Sir Hugh Hume Campbell, Bart.,
third prize (£25). The betting throughout was exceed-
ingly heavy and often fanciful, the "list prices" being 8
to 1 v. Captain Baskerville, 10 to 1 each v. Sir Hugh Hume
Campbell, Bart., and Mr. Leslie Leslie, 12 to 1 each v.
Viscount Parker, Mr. Spencer Lucy (the winner), Mr.
Percival Hambro (taken very freely), Lord Willoughby de
Broke, and Mr. G. G. Brodie; 13 to 1 v. Hon. R. C.
Hill (the vice-president of the club), 14 to 1 v. Mr. J.
G. Jee, V.C., C. 8., 15 to 1 v. Mr. Berkeley Lucy,
20 to 1 v. Mr. A. D 3 Vere Beauclerk, and 25 to 1 v. all
others. The following paid forieft :—The Marquis of
Graham, Mr. 31‘Arthur R. Payne, Sir Thomas Hesketh,
M.P., Mr. A. Blackborne, Captain Geo. Johnstone, Mr.
Julien. Arabin, Dr. Sharpe, and Mr. W. Watts. The birds,
which were supplied by Offer, of Hammersmith, were un-
deniably good, but the shooting was beyond the average,
if the wind be considered. Of 213 birds shot at 123 were
killed and 90 got away, but only, as elsewhere indicated,
to enrich the pies of the "outward division." The fol-
lowing is the score :
Yards Birds 'Total
Rise. Shot at. Killed.
Captain John Baskerville ...29 ... 1 1 0 1 1 1-5
Mr. Berkeley Lucy
Captain J. J. W. Fredericks 28 ... 0 1 1 0 do.
Mr. Henry Rudd 271 ... 0 1 0 do.
Viscount Stormont
Mr. Frederick Norris
Mr. William Gregory
Mr. Leslie Leslie
Sir H. Hume Campbell, Bart 26 ... 1 1 1 0 1 1-5
Mr. Spencer Lucy 261 ... 1 1 1 1 1 1-6
Hon. R. C. Hill
Mr. Warine Lysley
Lord Willoughby de Broke 26f ... 1 1 1 1 0 1— 5
Capt. Digby Boycott 261 ... 1 0 1 1 1 0-4
Capt. A. L. Ricards
Viscount Holmesdale, M.P. 26 ... .. 1 0
0 1 0 1 0
do.
do.
Sir John Blois, Bart.
1 0 1 0 do
Viscount Parker
Mr. Henry Rae Reid 26 ... 1 1 1 1 1 0-5
Mr. W. Duucembe 251 ... 0 1 1 0 Retired.
Mr. 11. Martyn Kennard
Mr. Aubrey Do Yore Beau-
... 0 1 0 de.
clerk 26
Mr. F. L. Berth) 2sf ... 1 0 do.
0
Mr. J. Davies 26 ... 1 0 1 1 1 0-4
Captain Norman Burnand 251. ... 1 1 0 0 Retired.
Major Lougloy, ILE 2si ... 0 1 .0. do.
Mr. G. G. Brodie
Captain A. Steuart
Mr. Thomas Wright 2sf ... 01 0 Retired
Mr. Henry Bentley
Mr. B. Percival Evans
Sir Chas. Legard, Bart '2s ... 111 1 1 0-5
Mr. P. P. Chappell
Mr. J. Jee, V.U., C. 8.21 ... 1 1 0 1 1 0-4
Mr. C. C. Coniugham
. Mr. C. Hanunersley
Mr. Battcock
POST ENTRIES. _ _

_ ___.
Mr. F. C. Monk, M.P. _ 24 ... 0 0 Retired,
Captain 11. F. Dent .. 25 ... 10 0 do.
Mr. L. L. Dillwyn, M.P.._ 25 ... 1 1 1 0 0 do.
Sir Walter Carew, Bart. 2l ... 0 0 do.
Mr. R. W. Duff, M.P.
Captain Arthur Burma
Sir Charles, Mordaunt,M.P 241. .. 0 1 1 1 1 1
1-5
Colonel Fellowes
Mr. Percival liambro
Mr. Hobson 26 ... 0 0 Retired.

TIES.
Birds shot at.
Mr. Spencer Lucy 1 First Prize, £l5O.
Mr. Percival Hambro
Captain John Baskerville 1 0
Viscount Stormount .. 1 0
Sir Hugh Hume Campbell,
1 1 Third Prize, £2,5
BArt
Lord Willoughby do Broke 0
Mr. Henry Rte Reid 0
Mr. R. Percival Evans 0 0
Sir Charles Legara, Bart 1 0
Sir C. M ordauut, Bart.,M. P. 0

We are requested to state that there is not the least
foundation for the statement in a daily contemporary re-
specting a noble lord (who won the Two Thousand a few
years back) having lost £lOO,OOO on the Derby.—Sporting
Gazette.
Alberta, the winner of the Burgh Stakes, at Epsom, on
Wednesday, was bought after the race by Mr. J. Wood
for 180 guineas. On Thursday, after winning the Walton
Stakes, she was purchased by Captain Machell for 315
guineas; Lillie, who ran second, being claimed by Mr.
Hope.
AN EDITOR DE LUXE.—It has lately been as-
certained by the friends of the late Samuel Rogers that for
the illustrations to his "Italy" and his volume of mis-
cellaneous poems he paid no less than .£15,000.
The Editor of " Debrett's Peerage," Mr. C. B.
Borradaile, a contributor to the current literature of the
day, is just dead. He was the son of the late Rev. Mr.
Borradaile, M.A., vicar of Wandsworth.
A GENUINE ANTIQUARIAN.—The Wiltshire papers
announce the death at Ileytesbury, in that county, of Mr.
John Parker, a well-known antiquarian, at the age of 87.
SOMETHING LINE A BANKRUPTCY.—THerO is at
this moment under adjudication in the Bankruptcy Court
at Birtningham the case of one Cresawell, late of Tipton,
ironmaster, also concerned in the Rhos-hall Iron Company.
It was stated in the court on Friday by Mr. Griffin, who
appeared for the offieial assignee, that the present liability
is £174,000, whilst the "only property" is put down at
.£375.
ST. MARTIN'S WORKHOUSE.—The present work-
house of Martin's-in-the-Fields, in the rear of the
National Gallery, being required for an addition to that
institution, the guardians have secured a plot of land of
about seven acres in extent at Wimbledon, upon which
they propose to build a new workhouse. The cost of the
building will be £25,000.
Dlt. JENNER.-Iu consequence of the increase of
his private engagements, Dr. Jenner has been obliged to
resign the chair of medicine in University College, but he
retains his office of physician to the hospital.—The Lancet.
Tins ABYSSINIAN CAPrEVES.—lntelligence has
been received from the captives in Abyssinia up to the 2LI
of April. They were still prisoners, and in chains, in the
fort of Magdala. There had been no change in their treat-
ment by King Theodorus, and no sign whatever that he in-
tended to liberate them. In fact, they are now fully per-
suaded that nothing but force will secure their liberation,
and are ready to take the risk which coercive measures
would entail upon themselves. One of them writes:
" Her Majesty's Government are fully aware of our posi-
tion, and its must now be clear to them that our release by
conciliatory measures is quite out of the question. They
must either resort to force or leave us to perish. Mean-
while, the country generally appears to be in a state of
complete
lion. The road from Ad,
aagl rdnaoisat
King still resides, is unsafe for all travellers unless ac-
teovDelel province is
issvhinerreubt'file-
conpanied by a strong escort. Five mere Europeans have
recently been added to the number of the captives—vis.,
three Germans, Messrs. Steiger, Brandies, and Schiller ;
Easier, a Hungarian, and Makeru, a Frenchman. These
had volunteered to enter the King's service when the
other captives were sent to Magdala, but getting tired of
tit position they devised a plan to escape. The evening
fore putting their plan into execution they were betrayed
by Bardel, who had agreed to escape with them. They
were, in consequence, immediately seized and chained hand
and WO, They are st present c 9111104 is c 4 ClUDgech.

NOTES

FROM
RAINING QUARTERS.

THIS DAY.

STOCKBRIDGE.

After his morning exercise yesterday, and a few
hours' rest, Vauban, contrary to general expects..,
tion, left here for Paris, to compete in the Grand
French Prix, and his action will suit better in that
race than in the Derby. Caucasus accompanied
him, to make a pace, and should it be good enough
he ought to endorse the correctness of the Two
Thousand result. Lord Ronald took Harpenden a
mile and a half ; and Redcap was leading the two
year old colts, and Ischia the young fillies. Lecturer,
Miss Havelock, and John Davis galloped nearly two
miles. Lady Elizabeth, after cantering, went a,
mile fast.