The Sun.
London, England, 1803-06-15 00:00:00

WINE..

He intend,d to lay a Duty onWine of 101. a pipe,
but a Gentleman near hint, on whose accuracy he
could rely) assured him that he opened it to the
Committee alit Duty of tot. a ton, or gl. a Opt. ;
noes y the House would recollen that he said the
proposed to he laid on Wine was intended to

he equal -to' that of the Duty imposed in. the year
;795, which xi:as no; tot. a ton, but tol. a pipe, so
that it must be evident from that, hA., intended the
Duty noW to he impo4 was to he that Of wt.
a pipe, anti t,o tho,Reaulution was worded ; but lest
Gentlemen might have taken the amount of the
-Ditty from .bis statement, instead of the words of
the Resolution which was afterwards_ moved, he
thotight it. right to make the present statement ;
it might-otherwise happen that some Gentlemen.
;g11! go away with an idea that the Duty on this
ar:icle was only half of what it really was.—
Thi2xe was another Resolution to which he- also
to advert,and that was with regard to
TEA.

Tie stared it tr he.inte.4aled to propose an augmen.
tatiott of duty to the amount of 4s per cent. ad.l.itt-
' form on .titter Teas, and Is per cent. on the
eOaner Teas. The Resolution howtver was drawn
jte, as to impose an additional 4e .per per cent. on
all...:fts4tA. The fin;ut,e Would have an opportunity
of reducing ii, if it should think fit. He was bound
to say he did not intend that the Resolution should
be so drawn; he~ had thought it reasonable to make
a distiktion .hetween the finer and- the coarser ar.
tide, but now upon refiedion, he was induced to
think it would be Oesirable to impose 4e per 'tent.
additional; duty on Teas- .46f all descriptions. This
was the opinion ofinao)in the trade, and other in.
. div ideals, on whose judgment he should wish to re-
ly they'itaid it was the best way to prevent frauds
and itypositiOns", which 'would arise if the distiniiicin
• was made in the duties; of the two sorts of Teas,
for if the distiodiein obtained, some of the finer
Teas Might be entered as the coarser, which was to
be subject to the lower, when they were intended
tot the higher scale ,Of -duty. All the higher Teas
would be 90, and the lower 30 percent. if the Re.
iolution was to be as.he had opened it ; but if they
welt made 'all alike .
.subject to the additional duty of
,te per cent, the circa would be, that the finer Teas
would have some. addition to what they were under
the Commitation Ditty, and the inferior Teas would
sill be something less. He thoyglit it material to
make' this addition to 'the. statement of last night,
lest some Gentlemen might have taken their ideas
of the duties from his opening, instead of the words
of the ReSolutiOns themselves. it was in the potter
of the House to reduce the sum of the duty on each
of these articles, and •to make them conformable to
the statement which he inade.by mistake last nght,
• hut he could not help considering it would be better
the Resolutions And& remain as they are, for the
reasons he had already assigned. He took occasion
to observe also in explanation, that he never did ,
'state, that 7,800,0001. wai`the produce. 6r. the Co.i
snlidated Fund, as bad been repeatedly imputed to
him. •

Mr, WILLIAM 'SMITH said, he should not'
enter upon the particulars of this Report at present;
,he rose :rather to lay in his claim to deliVer his opi-
nion upon it on some future,day. He approved,
however, of the leading part 61 the present system,
which was that of raising, is large, portion of •the
Supplies of this Country within the year ; he
thought that was one great cause of our present
public Credit being so hid h, He thought there was
• a great deal of candour in what had been stated by
the: Minister to-night an the subject of the addi.
Duly intended to be imposed on Wine ; the
Committee, he lu had chiefly taken it front
thestatement of the Right Hem, Gentleman, which
certainly, was only L. a pipe, instead of the Itt'sft.
lotion, which was toL a pipe ; but that the IVlini. '
r intended to propose rol., instead of sl,, a pipe,
. was evident from the amount at which he estimated
-the produce, since the importation did not amount
to MOM than 3e.),000 tons, which at 51. a :pipe,
',Vottld only be 300,0001. The house would there,
fore hardly think that the-Resolution was o.tt right.
With regard 19 Tea, it certainly was very highly
taxed, but then it was a hoairy, and not only so,
but it tvas a pernicious -luxury, and the abundant
Use of it might properly be'di,cOnraged.
Mr. &STAR' thought the Tenants and Occu.
piers of land in Devonshire might with propriety
he called upon to pay for: land only 6d. in the pound,
like, those of landholders in ScOtland.
Mr. W. DUNDAS and Mr. IVPPtitasoN thought
tlse Duty on Barley would discourage the growth of
it in Scotland.
Sir Roils-we ButcroN expressed 'the same appre.
!tension with respett 'to much of the North of Eng-
laid, and particularly the part which he rept-
seritcd-
Sir W. EL.FoRD thought the distinaion between
the Landed Interest and the Commercial, as übjeds
.of Duty, deserved much investigation; •.
Sir kluoii hot, ti entertained some. donht's
'that the fa's:eh he so peoduaiee as the .11/li.
oister had stated.;.: He thought some of them would
operate to the eneouragement of Smuggling.
General GA:X,:oVict, entered his protest against
the fax Cott Sugar. •••
LornP. L, Go w r ft, expressed his surprise at the
Tax on Malt, Ater the runiber of Petitions. pre-
sented I.v,t Session tiro that suhjea. •
,I,BINGTOI,I approved of the system of
raising a large portion of the Supplies within the
year in 'this the Minister wisely follormed the
euthe t.f his great predecessor. He disapproved of
a 1-.ol,lety, ;41:-‘ art eneouragetnent to gambling,. and
altogether injurious to morals.Mr.' „
..7011A STONE approved of the system of
rftiljog. large proportion of the Supplies -within
the year ; but he contended that the present Sup,
plies, although very large, would be insufHeient for,
the prescut.purpose ; twenty,six millions, he said,
was faOCll Too small; he thought our Establishnlent
:,-Jtould be forty millions. fie contended also, that
we were wrong in.the manner in which we had in.
sisted on retaining Malta, and expressed it as his .
noinion, 'that we shalt at last be compelled to make
'ease on terms. net better than had been already
ofered_to us.
Mr. PANS ITT RT maintained that the pre_
sent Stipply was ample for our present purposes. The
average expence, of the last
..War was not thirty
millions a year, and there-was-no reason to appre..
fiend, but the contrary, that the present would he
snore expensive, With regard to making Pr on
the' terms which .the Hon:Gentleman had' stated,
he would desire hips io lay ttla hand upon his.,breast
;LOCI say,. -Whether he believed, if. we Leal: entered
into such Peace, that we could have kept it for six '

. ..
1 months / Fie then referred to documents •on the '
I. Table to justify his opinion of the , pre ent b....rii.
. blishmem being sufficient for our present purport.
11:., thought that all Teeches to exaggerate, the evils
Of ,War, and; to excite despondency in the People,
. . .
dangerous at 'ihis criis,*
Mr.. 10.HN,STONE thought that the dotirine
held forth hy the Hon. Gentleman_in the.latter part,
- of his speech had a" tendency to encroachment on the
freedom of debate. • . : , 1 .
. . Mr. B4AI/4/11 was convinced that great sacri-
fices must be made by this. Country at this crisis.
With respell to the Tax on Sugar, it way an, expe-
riment,
ttwlhl
oeto
iutigih t,or
ialtdies
aiti:eitaii.t
Ds
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fatt:yisi:afi,rdtinoi)::vneo:sbisnoei
ob;snel :gag.
iit6morrciip knowrsiali tiiicmrlpriica,a; t whati caii
thathe
it was not very difficult.
Mr. DENT said a few words. - : ,
Mr. PETER MOORE observed, that if so many
objefflons were to be made to Taxes, -We could not
have any Tax at all. Gentlemen thought that we
might have a Peace of experiment and a War of
experiment, but they would not allow of a Tax of,
experiment. That we were to make a great exer-
tion the Country was unanimously ' agreed. • He
hoped when Taxes were opposed, those, who op.
posed them would propose better, or at leivit a sub-
stitute. We were unanimous on great exertion ;.•
we were unanimous on another point, that however
great the Taxes are, the COuntry was pettedly
competent to pay them., .
,
Mr. nut. ER. said a few words.
The Report %eat+ then brought up; and on the'
question that the Report be now read,
Mr. JOHNSTONE made some further observa-
tions on the present establishment being too small,
which he maintained it was by to millions.
Mr. VANsITIART 205Were'd the observations
of the Hon. Member; after which the Report was,
read a first ti!ne.
On the second reading of the Report,
Mr. DENT said, he did not see why it was that
li'orcigners were excluded, ' from this Tax ; he
thoUght that they ought to pay for the security of
their ptoperry which was in our Funds.
.The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, if Ibis had been a Tax upon the runds, it
certainly would have been right to have taxed
Foreigners residing abroad. It_must be obvious that
they did not come in any degree under the airinei-
ple of the measure ; they were not liable to other
Taxes, and it would be extremely unjust to tax the
property which, upon the -faith of the Country,
they had placed in our Funds,
Mr. DEAT was apprehensive that frauds would
he practised, and that money would be placed in the
Funds in foreign names.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, he was aware that frauds of this kind might
be practised, and therefore it would be necessary
that proper precautions should be adopted.
Mr. C 4LCR AFT highly approved of the ex-
emption of Foreigners residing abroad, and said,
that if any thing could add to the high charatler
which this Natio') bore abroad, it would be the
adoption of a line .of conduct so honourable as the
present.
Mr. 11-7M.SAIITH said, he Ivouhl not now enter
into the details of the Taxes : he approved highly
of the system of. raising a large part of the Supplies
within the year, anti therefore was disposed to make
as tew ObjettiOng as possible ; he could not, hoW.
ever, h6p- expressing his apprehemions that the
Tax upon Trade and Professions , would produce
that:system of inquisition anthdiscloshre which wo
so much reprobated in the Income Tax. • He was
that the Coontry would cheerfully pay a larger
stun by It different mode: a small increase in the
Duty on Malt (though he did' ot recommend such a;
measure) would be borne more Cheerfitlly. . •
The CIiANCELOR of the EXCHEQUER;
said, that he felt aa'much as any one at the neees.
sity of discluatue, but it would be absolutely neces.
saryeither to have recourse to that measure, or to
give up the 'Tax:as far as related to Trail° and Pro.

fusions. As to the increase of the Tax :On Malt• it
was liable to innumerable objedions, because either
it must, be so heavy as materially to injure the
Brewer, or elicit would enable the Brewer to raise

a large sum on the Consumer,. while but a Asian sum
would be paid to Crtverturenr. But exclusive .of
that, it would be highly unfair to tax the. other

parts; of the Community ou highly, and to leave
(1104 coined in Timies and. Profchions untaxed.
Mr. Wm. S.,irrit explained.
Mr. BAnr No lON spoke in snppnrt of the Re
itaions,. which, were all ogreed to, and Bills were
or lered to he brought in upon them.
The Committee upon that part of His Majrstye;
Speech which related to affording Accommodation
w persons engaged in Mercantile Concerns, was put
lib to-morrow.

1 he CHANCRI.LOI4 of the EXCH/QUER give no.
tice, that he meant to propose to-morrow a Plan
for the Consolidation of the Excise; and on Friday'
he should move for two Millions for the Army Ex-
.
tra6rdinaries, and a sum ot one Million to reimburse
the East India Compiny.

. . .
Mr. Comity gave 'notice, that on Friday he
shoot in,)ve the Civil. Contingeneiek and Army
•
ExtrAordinaries of Ireland.
The Malitiouti Shooting 11111 passt4 through a Committee.
I to-nlorrow. - ,
Mr. Wicx SIAM savknotice, that he should ntove tognet.
row for leat.: to bring in a 13111 for the Regulation or the Corn
Trailehetivetn Preat Britain anti I relartill m Thursday for
a Bill.for better sum) lying tho Royal Navy with Seamen in
Ireland; and on Friday tin a Bill to trawler to the Royal
Navy Seamen in the Irish Militia.

hir. Co alt Y gave nonce, that he sholiki on Thursday
move for leave to hihig respeding the' distribution of
hank Notes in Ireland.

Trails Fer Dill passecl through a c'ointnittee.—
Rejlortito-morrow.

PI r, VA us ITT Alt r brought up a Bill for the better sun,'
plyin4 tiia Majestv's Navy with Seamen, which -ivaThread a
first tribe, and ordered to be read a second timeta.niorrow.
11r. A tr. x rt brought up. the Report of the' kvceden
Reek ordnance Bill, which was read anti agreed to, and the
Bill ordered to he read 3 third tinia t0.1110170W.
The Bribery Oath Bill was watt a second time, rind cora-
utirted for to-morrow. _ _

Mr. BY AGi r niovetj for an Account of the number of Ves.
sets entercil iiitv‘u-41% in the Port of Bristol in the years T 99;
tßoCts and i f, Um! the Coasting Vessels during the tame
Aid alio an Atcount 'of all Goott3 iniporteri into the
f itrt4tol, not Coastvise, in the years,;ty90,701,
,4) tllstitn;ulshing each year, Which were severally nr.

The 1 rit:h Reventieltrl+ll4tion Bill Wits read ,;ecpthi time,
and oaiiiiiiitteti for Aloiurirv-. •
Mr. A Lt;n4NuLi!. btotti;lit up thF itcport of the Curivnit.

•
7'—tite7".-11,1p— ruing the •WiveS and ?millet of the Scotch Atha.,
4iiif,„fiNhis read and agreed to, and a Bill ordered.
,liersr,:t tram the Comtnissionersof Customs.in Scodand
ttenrc.!:l Accounts rev E eding the xport:of Corn front Scot-
anct, v rat the number of Licensed Stills in chat Cyuptry,
tviiivh yyere ordered' fo lie on the 'lNble.:; • .
1
A Verson from' - the Commilsinuers ot Exc Ise, praented
Accounts of the number of Plstilleries and Stills in England,
the infinber of Gallons -which had paid OutY, arc. which
were ordered to lie on the Table. ' .
'rhe Committee ,on the 11edjcipc_Duty Bill wag deferred
tilt Friday.
The. Co trimi ttee pn , the. C ustorrtsPuty Bill was postponed
till to-ihorrow.
The Reports .of the, Irish Ship.burning Bill, and of the
E:ist India Shipping. 13111, were severally ordered to b...: re-
: ceiv,:d to-morrow. • • •
• Adjourned at Eight o'CloCk till To-morrow.

From tke LONDON GAZETTE, June
.i4i 1803.

Whitehall, 14, 1803.

The King has been pleased to grant the dignity
of a Baronet of the United~ Kingdom-of-Great-Bri-
tain and Ireland,• to the following Gentlemen, and
the respedive heirs male of their bodies lawfully
begotten, viz.
. Richard Brooke de Cape!! Brooke, of Great Oak.
ley, in the county of Northampton, and of Ahadoe
and Roxhorough, in the county of Cork, Esq.
The Right Honoutable John Stewart of Athen.
ree, in the county of Tyrone:
The Rev. James Strange, Clerk, Master of Arts,
of Tynan, in the county of Armagh, and of Thorn.
hill, in the county of Dublin.

Connnistiant in the Royal Cheshire Militia, tired by tly Lord
Lieutenant.

To be Captains—Wilbraham Egerton Esq. Dated June
I 8•3. Edwin Corbett, Esq. Dated forte 3, tgo3.. -Henry
bell, Esq. • Dated as above.
To be Lieutenant—lames Bailey, Esq. 'Dated -May fa, 1303.
To be Q,lianer-Mastet:—JOseptt Mucks, Esq. Dated as
above.

alma-Offer, Matti

MINIEgR RETURNED TO Sb.si VE IN IBIS ?RESENT PAR.
AhliiNT,
1'0.7t."1 cf Nottbreara—Danicl Parkcr Coke, Esq. in the room
Joseph Birch, Esq. whose ELdioi fur tlw s.shi Town
been cletcronined to he void.