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of mistakes. :Recurring to the subjcct immeliately
before the House, his Grace repeated his opinion,
that it would be preferable to come forward on such
an occasion as the present, manfully, with an Alt
for rendering the services of the Militias of both

Countries reciprocal.
The Marquis of SLIGO said, from the general ap-
probation which the measure resulting from the Mes-
sage from the Crown, had received from all sides of
the I-louse, he should not have judged it necessary to
trouble their Lordships with one word on its sub.
.jea, if it had not been for something which had
fell from a Noble Duke, by which he seemed to
consider, that if the services of the Irish Militia
were necessary in this Country, it would be more
advisable and more manly to obtain them by an At
from the Parliament of the United Kingdom, than

by the acceptance of their proffered services.—
Hia said, the Irish Militia had been en.
listed explicitly for serving in Ireland on/ y, and,
therefore, however wise the principle suggested by
the Noble Deke, couid not be ad,:d upon at the
present. To comply with that advice, the first strp
must be to discharge every one of those "Patriots,
who had now voluntarily tcnderd their services,
and enlist again on the terms of extended service.
Lord Scico said, that every measure tending to
cement the Union of Great Britain with Ireland,_
ever had, and ever should have his warmest con.
currence. Every thing that assimilated them to
each other, every thing that made them one, every
thing that created in them one interest, and one
feeling, added to the happiness, the strength and
security of the Empire ; and if the period should
happily arrive, when a population of near twenty
millions should be brought to ad under one mind
and one feeling, they had little to fear from their
Enemies, though the world were united against

them.
The Earl of LIMERICK observed, he should
have contented himself with a silent vote upon the
present occasion, were in not for One point in the
Speech of the Noble Duke. The condud of the
Irish Militia was on this occasion above all pane-
gyric ; he would leave it to other Lords to at-
tempt it ; but to the point : What had been stated
by the Noble Marquis, respeaing the Irish Militia
being enlisted for the limited service of their own
Country, was true ; and with resped to the Noble
Duke's idea of coming manfully forward, with a
Legislative provision on the subjed, it may be
manly and courageous, but certainly, under the cir.
enmstances of the case, it would be dangerous. He
was adverse to the experiment of legislating for
men, so circumstanced as were the Troops in ques.
tion, with arms in their hands ; he must negative
the N tble Duke's proposition. At the same time,
no man could more earnestly wish for a reciprocity
of the Militia service than him Al', and he had al.
ways held out the idea as tending to consolidate
the Military Force of the United Kingdom, and
render it the more secure : but under the circum-
stances of the case, this could not he effeaed, as
far as the Irish Militia was concerned, by legisla.
tive provisions in the first instance.
Lord GRENVILLE delivered his sentiments up.
on the subjed at some length. He was solicitous to
contribute his share of applause to the ardent zeal
and patriotism of those Troops who had so laudably
come forward, and he agreed with the Noble Mar-
quis in what he had stated as the probable result
of the Union between the two Countries. It was
the objets of that great measure to identify the
interests of Great Britain and Ireland, and to pro.
mote the happiness and security of both—to bring
them not only under one Legislature, and System
of Laws, but that the spirit of Government in both
Countries should be precisely the same. As far as
these principles were aced upon, so far were the
objects of the Union attained. He was aware of the
terms upon which the Irish Militia was raised—not
by means of ballot, as in this Country, but by
means of a bounty, on enlisting the men it would
certainly have been preferable that the desired ar-
rangement was the result of Legislative provisions,
and not, as in the present instance, proceeding from
the voluntary offers of the Corps themselves. At
the time the Bill, by which the Irish Militia were
so raised was under discussion, it was earnestly re-
commended to Ministers, that the Militia so raised
by Bounty, should be raised for the service of the
United Kingdom--That advice was then rejeaed,
and in consequence thereof, they were placed in the
present predicament. After several other observa-
tions, his Lordship said, it was by no means his in-
tention to oppose the Motion.
The Marqu;s of SLIGO said, he apprehended the
whole of the Irish Militia had tendered their ser-
vices; were that not the case, he was confident, there
was not a man among them, who would feel averse

from it.
Lord HAWKESBURY said, he was not aware
that they had ; but several Regiments had offered.
Lord HOBART made a few observations in justi-
fication of the conduCt of Ministers on the subjea
in question, and he agreed with the Noble Lords
who had adverted to the terms on which the Irish
Militia were enlisted ; to depart from those in the
first,instance would be a breach of faith. As to the
advice which the Noble Lord Pit ENvrt.LE) averred
was given to Ministers pending tht discussion of
the Bill alluded to, he did not recollea the circum-
stance.

After few observations from 1,-,rd DARNLEY,
Lord GR. ENV I LLE inquired whether the offers were
tendered by entire Regiments, or only by parts of
certain or different Corps.
Lord HAvvicEsEußY replied, by entire Regiments.
The question was put, the Address was voted,
and ordered to he presented to His Majesty by the
Lords with white staves.
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the Canons, respefting..the orAination 01' 1„ tests
and deacons, as introduced by Lord ELL E icrtb,
ROUGH, was
.after a few 01),ervations from iii •
Lordship ant the Bishop of Sr. AsAPti, wh:i stated he
should deem it necessary to trduble their Lordships
at some length in the Ccmtnittee iyAn the subject,
real a second time, and c )mmitted for Friday se'n_
night, on which day the Lords were ordered to be
suminimed.
After some private business was disposed of, the
House, on the Motion of Lord HAWKEbDURY., ad.
journed till Thursday se'nnight.

HOUSE OF COAZMONS.

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28.
LORD Frcdrrick Campbell's E•ta:e Bill was, on
the Motion Sir J. W. ANDERON, read a second
time, and ordered to be committed. •
A New Writ was ordered fnr Kraresborough, in •
the room of jnit:es 11ARt, Esq. deceased.
A. Message from the Lerch infortned the Frou•e
that their Le‘edships had agree.{ to the Expiring
Laws till, and the Sugar Warehousing Bill.
Mr. STE ELe presented an Account of the Army.
Extraordinariea, from the zsth of December, iSoz;
to the z4th of December, 1'8(13, which was ordered
to be laid up.n the Table, vnd to be printed.'
Mr; ALCoCI4 from the Treasury, presented an
Account of the Sums in the distribution Paper-
making in the Exchequer, and to be raised, which
was ordered to lie on the Table.
The St. Pancras Bill was read a third time and
passed.
Mr. BULLOCK presented a Petition from the
Land Owners, Molesters, S.e.c. of Essex, praying
Relief with respea to the Dutiei on
dered to lie on the Table.
Lord MARSHAAT reported from the IVliddlest
Elelion Committee, that if leave was given' tbetti
to adjourn over the Easter Holidays, -after having
sat eight weeks, it would cause no additional exi
pence to the Parties, hut might be attended with
advisnrage to them. After bringing up the Report,
he moved, " That the Committee should have leave
to adj 'urn to Monday the 9th of April."—Leave
given.
The Report of the Irish Militia Families Bill'was
taken into further consideration, and after
conversation. between Mr. FO TER and Mr. CURRY,
agreed to, with the exception of the A:nentiltie.nt
illoposeci by Mr. FOSTER On a piectding
I The Bill was ordered to be read a third time
morrow.

HILEY ADDINGTON hrought up the Reprti
of the Committee, respeding the Disputes between
Cotton Manufacturers and their '-a7orkmen, which
was orde:ed to be taken into consideration on Mon.
day, the 9th of April, and to•b:!i•rinied. - • '
Mr. CU RW EN moved lot an fies,ouni
Amount of the Port Duties in die Isle of Man, upon
Exports and Imports, from the Ist of Jannary 1739,
to the rst of January 1834., together with a ;
paid thererut on Accoent of Salaries, &c-.• and
the Supplies remaining,.--Ordered,
Lord A. HAMILTOY, after observing upon the
necessity and propriety which he thought existed for
the Commicrce on the difference in the Duties be.
tween English and Scotch Barley, deriving every
in!-ormation upon the subject from Gentlemen. from
Scotland, moved to add to the Committee the names
of SIR JOHN SINCLAIR, Mr. KINNAIRD, aril Sir
W. ERSKINE.
Sir R. BUXTON would not resist the Motion,
but wished that art equal number of English Gentle..
men might also be added.
After a few words from Mr. KINN.Air,D, the
names of the above Gentlemen were added to the
Committee.
Sir R. BUXTON was proceeding to propel. four
English Members to be added to the Committee,
• but afterwards withdrew lus Motion, and gave no-
tice of it for to-morrow.