The Sun.
London, England, 1804-02-09 00:00:00

a,
,entrtorian whether' he uht himself'
consistent if he atrempted-to take awayl from that
As to
recommendation at I
Corp: the right -of-
a he
the distinCtion between 'elee{ion andnomination, the same,
hardly saw it, they were in substance
to submit to
for neither meant any more than
the Lord Lieutenant the propriety of his trans_
tbe
names of
mining to the Secretary °f-State
Persons whom they wished be commandedto
on the
4Y, but of course the crosym,,
ve t wingh
e right
of
advice of its Ministets, would have
judging whether such persons were fit to be Corn-
Thanders or not; there could be no doubt upon
that subjea—
Now in the Corps to which he
,had
the honour to belong, the terms of
their services
happen for
*ere such, that if any vacancy were to
t 0
00uywho
-a," Officer, he should apply to the Corps! felt him-
'tneY should wish to fill it ; undoubtedly
he
e that but
I.elf hound to do so—Why then what wasl
?
pr,"lLleetion—and where was the evil of a
this
not
;"e Lord Lieutenant had a right to say, I will _
"Ward this recommendation to the Secretary of
-State -, do not think the person recommended
-• t a
for
forward it, the Secretary
of State might say that
'ls fit for the Office ;or if the Lord Lieutenant should
it should not take place, and advise His Ma_
;testy to that effect}: then it would come back
again to chose another, and they must go on .
With their recommendations until they hit upon
somebody to whom neither the
Lord Lieutenant
nor the Secretary of State so that no one could ever have ahad- any objedion
commission in any
Volunteer Corps without the approbation of the
, and this was in itself, as it appeared to him,
treartitst •
, for the men ought to know the cha-
.
ittEter of tte p
on'eison under whom they served ,
but
the Right li. Gentleman adierted to Volunteer
Corps under es tahliShments,like those of the last 'War,
or if not those of the last War, of bl• h
esta is Dents dif-
ferent from those under which-the present Volunteer
Corps were formed. They had hitherto all enjoyed the
power, if not
is of eleeling, of recommending their
Office now he wanted to know, whether this
,
power was given to the Volunteer Corps by Law,
or by connivance of the Crown ? If by Laws it
must belong to then, generally; if by connivance,
he should like to whether he had found anasthe Right Hod. Gentleman
y mischief in the pranice ?
Iful h
the e had not, why should he now attempt to X.
de Volunteers from that which they have
• hitherto enjoyed without any inconvenience to the
Public, and take from them that for which they have
inch value, and without which, as he apprehended,
not, only- would the Volunteers become less nume-
rous 'but also less efficient according-to theit num-
bet than they are now ? Where, he should like to
ask, was the difference between the first choice and
the second ? In the first instance, the lot fell upon
those generally who were the most knotvn, who
Were the most rerrkarkable for talents, or for some
finalities or other that distinguished them, eirher
for high station, or something that gave them a
preference to others, and for which there were ge-
nerally very good' reasons for recommending. them
to His Majesty ; and
which reasonable to -suppose
that the same motives aCtuated the Corps in
the .first instance, would not also influence them in
the second, and that they wonld • 'fill' '
Continue to . I.l[
Tacancies, as th
.
ey may happen in their Corps, with .
he samet propriety as they made the first choice ?
Be did comm!, that it the Right Hon. Geritleman
thould ad on the that
on Which he had spoken to-'
night, he would be in an error which would- be fatal
to the whole system of Volunteers of this Kingdom.
That was his opinion and he thought it his d t n y
to say so at once and to entreat Ministers to be
cautious in what' they 'do upon this :
for his own part, had he offered hisoccasion
as a Private in services
an -Voltinteax Corps, which
kie ' should be ready y to do at any time if he
was not now in a situation to tominand a
Corps, he owned. he should be very unWilling co
serve under any Officer appointed by the Crown• to
command him without his own conseht-.--The
Right Hon. Gentleman had one through the whole
of the history anthystem of the Volunteer service,
in which he should not follOsv the Right Hon. Gen
tleman, but should make a few observations on some
Points in the Address of the Hon. Gentleman to the
foists the
previous to his motion.—He had said that
Diut.ters finding they had no friendS on the Con.
nitnesntt,, it became us to look at home and make the
uof our intern 1 h. •
a _strengt , since we were at
War. —This gust,
sorted to beeatirse
We found
Volunteer service was re-
found ourselves at war without
a Friend on the Continent to
'
have thought it would assist
t us.—He should
ook about them, and to have
seeeeremr e
we shouldhave
any friend on the Continent to a • ssist us before we
entered into war ; this might have been a politic ,
course but Ministers adopted a contrary system,
for the got first into the War, ,ant afterwards in-
quired how it could be supp t d
or e ; they then
adopted the System of a Volunteer Service ; now
he was ready to confess that he did not think that
the System of Volunteer Service was the best either
for ceconomy or for the purpose of making military
efrorts, such as might have been made under a
cliff. trent
systemsste of policy, and at the same time
brng al file energy_ of die People of pine,
{end ;
abut while he said thii, he trusted that neither
the ight said
Gentleman or any other
'would try to bring !Ton him the odium of a de-
sire to raise a clamour against the Volunteer System,
nothing
for there wasing could be
more unjust than such an imputa-
ion, not a man in the Cye
believed, who had exerted himself more than ountrhe, had
in support of the Volunteer System, when he found
it was resorted to as the only means of our General
'Defence: but he'.was yet of opinion, that it was not
the best System that could have been resorted to for
the general defence of the Country- in dine of need;
and here he could. not help accusing Ministers of
wavering from day to day in their system, which
Proved,
with ved, they had got into a path in which they had
!net
great difficulties and perplexities,
and out
Of which they were 'not yet quite extricated. They
attempted to produce a General Defence Aft, out
of which arose the Volunteer System all over the
ountry. ,At that -time they found, that Three
Hundred and Fifty Thousand' Men inrolled their
for the Service of their Country. Here
:homesm
• sr
ost beg to be understood, as not in the slighte
-eo,
wee wishing to depreciate those men, oil the con-
4rar
'
Y 2 00 man had s, higher opinion of the . of
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