The Sun.
London, England, 1867-07-17 00:00:00

LAND IN IRELAND.

Mr. O'BEIRNE moved that the house resolve itself
into a committee to consider an address to be pre-
sented to her Majesty, praying that she will be graci-
ously,s4leased to take into consideration the ex-
pedienCy bf recommending to the house to grant
a suin by way of loan, not exceeding one million
sterling, to be omployLd in the purchase of estates
which may be offered for sale in the Landed Estates Court
in Ireland, such estates to be resold, in subdivided farms,
of not less than 10 or more than 100 acres each to the occu-
pying tenants of such estates ; or in event of tenants de-
clining to purchase, then to such other persons as may be
willing to buy the same in subdivided farms, the purpose
being to assort and encourage an independent proprietary
of small freehold estates in Ireland. The hon. gentleman
went at some length into the matter, and said the great
source of disquietude in Ireland was the tenure under
which land was held, and he hoped the house would adopt
the motion ho had placed before it, because, in the
opinion of some of the most eminent parsons who had ever
lived, if the tenants at will in Ireland were converted into
small proprietors, Ireland, instead of being a weak-
ness, would become a strength to England. He
felt the present condition of Ireland was a dis-
grace. It was full of discontent and disaffection,
between which there was but a small step to revolution.
He hoped the noble lord would, in adopting the motion,
confer a boon on Ireland of the most important nature.
It would change the wretched hovel of the Irish labourer
into a happy home, and lead him to believe that British
rule meant something more than English coercion.
Lord NAAS said he was not prepared to admit that
since the Union Ireland had gone to decay. It was true
her progress had not beet so' iapid as could be wished,
but then it must be borne in mind that Ireland was a
purely agricultural country; and the fact that manufac-
tures did not abound there in any great proportion might
be the cause of the slow progress of the country.
The object of the honourable gentleman by his
motion was to purchase, with the public money, largo
Irish estates, and thou to cut them up into
small portions, and dispose of them in lots to
small purchasers. He thought such a proposal was
very unsatisfactory, and, therefore, ho felt bound to oppose
it. They had the power to purchase small estates now,
through the Incumbered Estates Court ; but the reason
they did not do so was because they procured a better
paying investment fur their money. He, therefore, must
oppose the motion.
After some observations from Mr. P. URQ ART, the
motion was withdrawn.
Leave was given to Sir G. Montgomery to bring in a
bill for the relief of widows and issue of intestates in Scot-
land where the succession was of small value.
Leave was also given to Mr. Secretary Hardy to bring
in a bill for facilitating the distribution of sewage matter
over laud and otherwise amending the law relating to
sewer authorities.
The Arrest for Debt Abolition (Ireland) Bill, which
stood for second reading, was withdrawn by its promoter,
Sir C. O'Loghlen.
The Increase of the Episcopate Bill which had passed
the House of Lords was opposed on the second reading by
Mr. Gilpin, who moved as an amendment that it be read a
second time on that day three months. The hon. member
contended that there were enough bishops already to do
the work of the Established Church, and that to enable
them to perform their duties more efficiently they might be
relieved from attendance in the House of Peers. In any
case, if their number was to be increased, neither the
funds in the hands of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners
nor any other public fund ought to be drawn upon for their
support. Such a measure was especially uncalled for,
when curates with wives and families had to drag out an
existence on stipends of .£BO a year. lie objected, then, to
spending half a million of money on bishops whilst so
much suffering and privation was endured by the inferior
clergy. But half a million did not represent what would
be the actual expenditure ; for the bishop must have a
palace, a cathedral, registrars, and all the other parapher-
nalia which belonged to his office-
Mr. HADFIELD strenuously condemned the bill from
the extreme nonconformist point of view.
Mr. Secretary HARDY intimated, on behalf of the Go-
vernment, that they intended to give the bill their support,
and enlightened Mr. Gilpin and Mr. Hadfield as to the ob-
ject of the measure by stating that it was based on the
principle of allowing persons to subscribe their own money
for purposes connected with the Church.

Mr. AYRTON spoke warmly against the bill, and de-
clared that out of doors the spending of money
in the
setting up of new bishoprics when such groat distress pre-
vailed among the working clergy would be regarded as a
flagrant outrage.
The debate was continued by Mr. J. A. Smith, Mr.
Kinnaird, Mr. Henley, Alderman Lusk, and Mr.
Newdegate ; and upon a division the amendment was ne-
gatived by 45 to 34. The bill was then read a second time.
The Investment of Trust Funds Bill was passed through
committee.
The Tests Abolition, Oxford and Cambridge, Bill was
read a third time and passed.
The house was counted out at a quarter past 9 o'clock.

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