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cessions, tending to unhinge the minds of the peo-
ple of this Country, Ile believed, however, that
what fell from a Learned Gentleman would tend to
that, more than any thing which fell frOm Gentle.
mmat his side of the House. The present was by
no means a Catholic 'War, regarding tt in a Relie-
ous light—bot much discontent might cotainly
arise from the consideration, that 4.fifths of the in.
liabitsios. of that Country ate deprived of many
of the advantages their fellow-subjeds enjoyed.---If
ever that question should he agitated in the United
Parliament, in his present views of the subject,
li`e should support it. At the same time he was free
to say, it would be proper to shew them that. any
attempts to redress themselves by force, would meet
with punishment, and he hoped that Parliament
would unanimously strengthen the hands of Govern-
ment to punish such attempts.
Mr. Setjeant BEST observed, that certain topics
which had been intrOduced into the discussion, were
unadvisedly done so: it should be considered that
the proceedings alludd to might be produdive of
injarious consequences on this side the water : their.
effeds would not be confined to Ireland alone ; the
Civil Institutions of this Country were liable to be
affected : at any rate, the subject was of extreme
delicacy, and should be handled with the utmost
caution. Were it held out as unfit the Catholics in
Ireland should pay Tithes, the same question may be
.agitated in this Country,and the EloglishCatholics and
Dissenters might claim exemption on similar grounds:
this would go to strike at the very root of the
..Constitution olChurch and State. The agitation
of such questions were highly improper, the more
especially on the very last night of a Session, when
tto opportunity could offer of giving the subject a
full and adequate consideration. With resped to
tlie original Motion, though it had supporters, not
one of them supported the Honourable Mover on
his own grounds ; they argued it in a manner
very different from him, and it was matter of
surprize to him (Mr. 13.) that though three weeks
had elapsed since the Insurration took place, no
mention was made of the present Motion till last
Friday. Why was. such an interval stiff:Jed to

ticapt ; and why did they come forward on the last
night.of:ihe Session? lie deprecated the ultrachic.
tint of the Catholic question into the discutsion,
more especially as it appeared great numberS of that
body were tager to manifest their determination to
stviort the Government of Ireland. He attributed
the present unhappy disturbances in Ireland to the
machination of the common Enemy : to proCeed-
ings oI that kind, which, among the happiest Cum-
munities, and hest regulated Governments, would
find some supporters, who, on account of their po.
verty or waywardness of disposition, were prone
to insurrettion and revolt. The Motion should
have his decided negative.
Col. Ckiwuratto spoke shortly in explanation.

Al,. ALEX-ANDER delivered his sentiments
at home length. I le'deprecated ttle introdnaion of
such a subjea at that particular period, when Gentle,
mett could neither he q t.d lied to judge Of its merits,
nor have time to give it a full and deliberate dig.
cushion. lie adverted to the paucity of Iri,h
Members then pre!tnt ; when they returned from
that Country next Seshion, with the advantages of
al informati, n and inquiry, then would be
the proper tilne fur dihotshing the subjea, lie
had the highest respett for the motives 'of his
I lon. Friend, lout he must deptceate the agitation
of the snhjet9 at present. He spoke favourably of
the political sentiments of the great Majority
of Calholie Proprietors, they were friendly to
the • 11l 'lrish. Government and connexion ; but
among the lower classes appeared a rooted deter.
mina:lw), to attempt at least, to acquire these estates,
which the course of events had wrested from those
they 'called their Ancestors. This he considered as
one great cause of the continued ferment which
prevailed in Ireland; but among the Proprietors,
even 99 out of 100 were radically attached to Great
Britain. After dwelling upon these points for some
time 'and adverting to the present state of parties
in irelard, he concluded by expressing his hearty
negative to the Motion.

CRAUFORD and Mr. ALEXANDER. spoke
beverally in e.nilinhtion.

Mr, /./UTCH/NoloNspokeat considerable length
in reply, in the course of wl kit he animadverted in
some detail on what had fallen from teveial leading
Speakers in the 1) hate, particularly Lord CAS.
*rLEREAQH and the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE.
*vett., He observed be had been pTiously mis-
understood by several Gentlemen who had spoken.
I-le argued thkt the drift of his Motion was not for
improper disclosure, or that it cast any slur upon the
*Government of Ireland. He had originally intended
an Address to the Kirg, the principal object} of
which was) that be would tae pleased to take the af.
fairs of Ireland into his royal consideration, and
adopt such measures as ,he deemed proper to the
tranquilizing of that Country) &c. but a degree of
infortnality attending it, he, was induced to pro.
pme the !notions before,tl4 House., So far from
delaying to come forward, be had the very day af.
ter the Aa, passcd,warned Ministers if they should
not adopt some proceedings indicative of their in.
tention to tithe the circumstances of Ireland
into their special consideration, he should deem
it his duty to propose something on the sub.
jeep himself; and had they last night, or even
this night, come forward with a general declaration
to, that died, he should not have troubled the
House ; and such an apparent disposition on the
part of Ministers would have done more to Iran.
qnillize Ireland than aoy thing they could possibly
do under the present Motion. He knew no
immediate steps could be taken in consequence
of it, but the main drift and objed of his
application was, .that it should be nunifest,",that
the Governmerit,intended immediately and seri.
ously to take the state of Irelaint into their
consideration. He adverted to various points con.
neeted with the late and present Rebellions in Ire.
land, on which lie delivered his opiniOns in detail,
and vindicated the. Cathdlies from the charge of be..
ing adive itt tidier. Not one: Catholic of note was
a Leader in the last tßebellion, they were either
Protestants or Py.,,byteri;ins. He observed largely
upon the Speeclie, cHivered by the two distinguish.
eel pet sonages above.mentioned, on both of which
I,e made a v..riety of strong and polnted remarks ;.
tfa lko thet a!gue.l in livt,ur of the Motion, as the

LONDON, AUGUST' 12,1803.

His Majesty's Ship Mancheron, of 16 guns, fell
in, on the 28th ult. fourteen leagues to the west.
ward of Scilly, with a French Squadron of three
Ships of the Line anti two Frigates, steering
to the Eastward, evidently for Brest. Captain
HAwes closely reconnoitred them; and then stood
for Admiral CORNWALLIS'S Fleet, which he was
fortunate enough to fall in with on the tst inst.
and afterwards Admiral HALLOWELL'S Division,
stationed closer in to Brest. This is probably a
detachment of the St. Domingo Fleet.

LMT night a Debate took- place in the House of
Commons upon a Motion of the Hon. Mr. HUTCH
INSON respeting Ireland. Every thing relating to
that Country is at the present moment particularly
interesting, but it seems to savour a little of the
charateristic of the Nation to move for Information
respeEting the late Insurrection in and the present
state of that Country, on the very day preceding the
prorogation of Parliament. By the time that Parlia.
ment meets again, 'which we have good reason • to be.
lieve will be at no very distant period, (certainly we
learn in the month of November) the state of Ireland
we hope will be changed very much for the better ;
and as , no proceeding can at present be had upon any
inforthation that could be given, we can only con.
sicker the Motion as the medium of a discussion upon
the affairs of that part of the United Kingdom..—
.One reason on the part of Ministers for withholding
information is a very plain one—and that is, that they
have no information to give—lt is generally, and,
we apprehend, very justly believed, that the Go-
'vernment on both sides of the water was wholly
ignorant' of the Plan of insurre&ion.which was car.
tied into effed on the 23‘1" ult. and which had been
hatching for eight preceding months.. Both Mr.
ADD motor; and Lord HAWIC ESE UR y, however,
endeavoured last night to impress a contrary belief,
but it was rematked thin they never were more in-
felicitous in their attempts, and their manner be.
trayed their own cum, idion of the fia-It is a
fad, indeed, so notorious both in
Ireland and
here, that we are 'astonished any .men should be found
hardy enough to dispute it. Lord CASTLE R EACH was
more successful in his general arguments ; but on the
point of justification from a surprize he was not
more fortunate, though certainly more able than
his coadjutors. He shewed, in the latter part of
his Speech, in a strong point of view, the bad
effeds of discussion at the present moment, and the
necessity, for vigour aunt unanimity. In these sen.
timentt
.we most heartily concur; but while Mini.
stern afreet to arouse our patriotism, and. to appeal
to our reason, do not let them at' the;same time ad as
if they supposed that the people of this Country are
destitute of the latter quality, by denying a fad so
unequivocally proved as the ismorance of Govern.
ment of the gigantic scheme of Rebellion, which
too certainly exists in Ireland, arid which partially
'displayed itself in Dublin on the 23d of last month,
This is a- subject upon which we are unwilling. at
present to enlarge, and we have no doubt but we
shall have ample opportunities of hereafter renewing
it. Ministers are aning under a tremendous respon.
sibility, and their present conduct must one day,
perhaps, become the subject of serious investigation.

Yesterday morning. soon after breakfast, Nis
MAJESTY, accompanied by the PR INC ESS SOP 1-1
And attended by Lady TitYNNE, Generals CART-
w cliv, Ds ]3vDe, and Mr. Fit E EMANTLE, took,
an airing on horseback and viewed the different
farms in Windsor Great NO( ; the different crops
appear very tine, and the harvest will -soon Com-
mence.

Their Royal 1-lighne‘ses the Pa l'Oc EViEll AMYL IA
and Sopti lA, attended by Ludy C. DAlllits took an
airing in a sociable in the Great Park.

The Honourable Artillery Company had a grand
field-day this day, in their awn ground, in honour
of the birth-day of His Royal Highness she PRINC
of WAL ES. 'heir Captain. General.

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On Thursday se-notgatt CIUNTER, a King's
Messenger, passed thruugit-Bristol, on his route
from Waterford to London, having in his cus.
way, vic are sorry to say, an Officer, receiving
Beiti,h pay, and of a rank, it is said, superior
to that 01 Captain ; against whom circumstances of
so suspicions a nature had appeared, that it was
deemed proper to seize both his person and papers,
and convey them to the Secretary of State's Office
fur eitatuina I ion.

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'flit. two Italian Brothers still remain n costndy
of one of His Majesty's :Messengers, and have not
yet unelrrgont a second ex'arnination.

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GaeENocx, Auc. 9.—On Sunday arrived in our

Roads, His Majesty's Sloop Mancheron, of 16 guns,
Captain HAW ES, from Plymouth. On the 28th
ult. fourteen leagues West of Scilly, she fell in
with a French Squadron of three Ships of the Line
and two Frigates, steering to the Eastward, which
she passed through without being chased, though
reconnoitered by one of the Frigates ; and the
same night Captain Hewes tacked and again
passed them, and went off Brest, and on the Ist of
this month apprised Admiral CORNWALL Is of the
circumstance, and afterwards Admiral HAT. LO.
w a t,r,, commanding the in.ahore division off Brest,
and then proceeded hither.

PLYMOUTH, Auc. to.—Sailed the Mindere r,
of 74 guns, Capt. BEDFORD, and Phenix Frigate,
,to join the Channel Fleet; and Princess Frigate to
the Westward; also the Plover Sloop of War, with
the following Merchantnien under convoy for the
Downs, viz. London, GOLDFINCH, Francis and
Eliza, CULLEN, Latona,—, Canada, RITCHIE,
Martha, GLADSON, Martha, ----, and Naiad,
--, all for Jamaica ; and Melomane French Prize
Ship from St. Domingo, with several other Mer.
chantmen.

The Spencer, of 74 guns, went out of Harbour
this morning, and anchored in Cawaand Bay.

PORTSMOUTH, AUG. ; 1,--Arrived the Alert
French Privateer, prize to the Amelia Frigate, and
the Verona (French), prize to the Eaptienne Frigate.

DEAL, AUGUST t 1.--Arrived His Majesty's
Sloop Petterel, and Diseavery Bomb, from the
Westward, both which remain.

The Ship Duckinfield, from the West Indies,
arrived this morning, and has since sailed to
the River. The above Ship parted Company with
the Fleet last Friday, week of the Western Islands,
having a few days before experienced a very heavy
gale of wind, in which several of the Ships were
dismasted, or otherways sufrered material damage.

IJARWICII, AUGUST t t.—The Diana Post-office
Packet, Capt. STEWARD, and the Pocock Extra
Packet, sailed this afternoon with a fair wind, the
former for Gottenburg,"with a Mail, and the latter
Packet for Husum, with the Mails and Passengers.

The Postmasters General, have given direftions
for a Packet to sail regularly twice a week with a•
Mail for Gottenburg. The Packets lately em.
ployed on the Dover Station are expected at this
place every day, to take turn with the other
Packets.

The following Sloop have been ordered into
Cornmissi:m at Deptford
Scourge, - Capt. IVOOLDR tam
Vulture, - - Capt. Cariti.
Pluto, . - Capt. Fonats.
Merlin, - - Capt. BR t teroN.
Curlew, . Cape, NoaritxY.

Yesterday morning Curvoisier, `the Messenger,,
apprehended no Irish Lady in the neighbourhood of
Cavendish-Nuare, 06'n warrant from Sir RICHARD
FORD. In the course of the •day she underwent an
examination before Sir RICHARD F,OUD 'and Mr.
Under Secretary at Lord PELHAM'S OgiCC,
when it appeared that the charges adduced against
her were. unfounded, and she was immediately set at
liberty.

The Carnarvon Militia commanded by Colonel
EDWARDs, marched on Wednesday from Hastings
to Eastbourne. Two Messengers arrived at Hast.
ings from, town on Wednesday to take up to the
Seereta'ry of State's Office five Frenchmen lately ap.
prehended, three of them on Sunday and two on
Monday last ; they are of very suspicious appear-
ance, and were all armed with pistols and d.tggers
when apprehended.
Some of the largest East India Ships, of the
burden, of tOOO and 1200 tons, are taken up by
Government, it is supposed for transports.

Yesterday a Court of Common Council was held
at Guildhall, at which the LORD MAYOR, ten Al.
derv►en, the Recorder, and a great number of Com.
moners were present.

The Court voted unanimously the sum of 25001.
as a Subscription to the Fund at Lloyd's Crate.
house, now raising for the relief or reward of those
who may suffer in tilt present contest, or merit
distinaion, by successful or signal exertions against
the Enemy.

The Court also unanimously voted the Freedom
of the City to be presented to Dr. jitNNRR in a
Gold Box, of the value of one hundred guineas, as
a token of their sense of his skill ana perseverance
in bringing into general -use the Inoculation for
the Cow-pock.

At six O'clock on Wednesday evening, a general
meeting of the Volunteers of the Ward of Failing.
don Without was, held in theield on the left hand
at the upper end ari St. Johues_streer, for the put.
pose of eleaing Lieutenant-Colonel-Commandant.
T who filled the situation to the
unanimous of the Corps during the late
w al ie
war,
Ih
saoMtit:isrAhfYa n
eftOnßionipation of Mr. HODGKINS();
re. a ppoi tettit 9AtAat command,
A clause has been added to the Volunteer Corps
Bill, "atithorizilT the Captain of each company to
nominate a person to drill and exercise the company,
and to allow m 6d. per day for that service.
A Corresixmdent complains of the immense accu.
Mulation of revolutionary Frenchmen, in this metro.
polls, %vim, he says, are every day to be seen walk-
ing the principal streets in parties of three or Foar
and who are dressed in long halt coats and
trowsers,

TO WISSR.S, BENNET AND WHITE, RECEIVERS 611
THE SUBSCRIPTION FOR THE RELIEF AND RE..
WARD. OF THE DEEENDER'S OF THEIR COVNTRY)*
LLOYD'S COFFEEHOUSE, LONDON.
Theatre, Huntingdon, Ang. 8, t SCI.
GENTLEMEN.
SEEING in the Public Papers the acceptance of the
offer of Mr. Hoy, the Manager of the Worcester
Theatre, towards the Subscription for the Relief and
Reward of the Defenders of their Country, wh°-
may suffer, or by their exertions merit in the Pub=
lic Service : actuated by so good an example, I beg
leave to make the like offer of the entire. Re.
ceipts of one Night's Performance in each Town
perform, for one twelve month, paying the expences
of each night myself.
Should my offer be accepted, I shall feel myself
gratified in the opportunity of. giving my aid to.
the Defence of that gracious King and Government
now threatened by an insolent and daring Uvillet.
I am, Gentleman,
With the utmost respeCt,
- Your obedient humble. Servant,
THOMAS ROBERTSON,
Manager of the Theatres, Lincoln, Boston,
Grantham, Spalding, Newark, Wishacht
Peterborough, Huntingdon, and North
amp ton.

PATRIOTIC FUND,
LLOYD'S, Auc. Jul TS*,
To Mr. Thomas Robertson. .

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I am dire&ed by the Committee appointed for the
Management of this Fund to infmn you, that theY
return their belt Thanks for and accep
pleasure your very liberal offer, stated in your let'ter to Mersrs. Bennet and White, of the entire
ceipt, free of ail expellee, of one Night's Perform.,
ance at each of your Theatres, for one twelve,
month, in support of this Subscription, in favour
the Defenders of their Country. t with muth
The Committee cannot hut express their hope:
that such ,a patriotic example may be soon folloWel
by every Public Place of Amusement throjigh°u;
the United Kingdom : by which means cvetY ,
victual will have an easy and pleasing opportun'tY.
of contributing a share towards the Relief and Re-
ward of those who may suffer, or merit in tile
Public Service.
I am, Sir,
Your most obedient Servanp •
J. P. WELSFORD,. Sec.

CORN EXCHANGE, Auc. 22:

THERE is not much supply of Grain at. Market
to-day, and little business doing; Wheat hardly
reaches last prices, Barley and Vlalt are heavy!,
particularly the former ; Pease and Beans maim'
tarn their prices; and better prices are asked for
fine Oats, but we do not perceive any advanctil
terms of Flour stationary.
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4,4. e
Wheat 48S aqS a 6oS od Tick 13cans . 203,2.,4n-- ,263 l
Fine ditto -61 s a 62S od Oats - . 205 a Alsi, od
Rye - . 3u a 345 64 Poland ditto . 27s aatl
1
Mirky . sos a zss od Rape Seed - - it'' ;;;(1
Malt . . Sal aOS od Fine Flour - os a 5—,„-
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white Pease 4411 a Igs *4 Seconds . . 435
lleini ' - 3u a 36s od

A most strift investigation has taken pace by
Capt. ititv Is, of the Magnificent, of the Officers
and crew of Li.gpervia, for the discovery of Pa
ROME BONAPARTE, but without ALICCCSS.

Sir EDWARD PELLRW, on the zoth of June'
saved fifteen Portuguese in an open boat in hat.
36. 21. long. 12. 49; they belonged to a veises
called Se verino, from St. Übe's, bound to Cork,
with a cargo of silt ; they had quitted her three
days, the vessel having sprung a leak, and gone down'

/1/I(Carty, whom we mentioned the other day as
charged by the Coachman or the Gloucester Coach.
with attempting to pass base silver, has underg"nr
an examination at Mariboniugh-street Ofrioe.
piece of silver appears to be marked with a
de.L;s, and various figures, of the meaning of which
the owner pretends to be ignorant. It is, howevr
suspeded, that some latent circumstances well vc
made to appear-in the-1 u titre siltint, of thiS hosittesl•
i a
The following is an extract Of a letter, date
Havannah, June 26, to a merchant in Li verpoi
" General BOWL es, who ha been long anoqst
~
the Indians, on the Florida shore, and a great enetn, •
to the Spaniard', was, on the 22d inst. brought here
from New Orleans and put iuto the Moro Caol.e'
with very heavy irons on ; some say the Indi4lls'
and others that his own people delivered him 01"
There is a schooner of his now at New. Providencer
which was lately taken amongst the Kayes, ptratr
ing, and most of her crew have been executed."

A small Brig. having, on Tuesday evening, kern
launched at Thorpe, on the River Yare,
rigged, about twenty minutes after a nu:nbet
boys ascended the rigging; their weight, witli ‘h'i
of the number on deck, being near too, running n
one tilde, occasioned her to upset, and evcrY fc,r;,
son on board was thrown into the river. °I t`t-
whole, however, two only were drowned.
The Proprietors of the Royal Circus, with tile 4
accustomed liberality and highly commendable Ca'
f
triotism, have, we learn, proffered the receipts P,
one evening's performance at that elegant, Sununu
Theatre, in aid of the Patriotic Fund at LloYdib'l
which has been flatteringly accepted, and we d"
not will be strongly patronized..
The Fifth of next Month the Lottery hrgir
Drawing. Tickets and Shares are selling 11
Ilistt, at his Old Established Offices, No. 4-, Carn.:
hill, and No. 9, Charing.cross, where all Priz''
are paid on demand.

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