The Sun.
London, England, 1867-10-14 00:00:00

were not out when the three men came in at one
o'clock, but she could not swear that the outside
lights were out. She beard no discussion about
Fenianism on Friday night.
A juror asked whether the witness was quite cer-
tain that Groves wore a greatcoat, because Mrs.
Byrne could not speak to the fact.
The Coroner said the witness was quite certain
about the matter, as she had said it was a " Bis-
mark" brown.
Mrs. Byrne was recalled, and asked the name of
her present husband. She said Martin Lynch, but
the license was taken out by her in the nameta
Byrne. She thought her barmaid, who was a very
nervous person, had made a mistake about Groves
wearing a greatcoat.
Coroner —Never mind that. We will now hear
Mrs. Jeutuan.

Mrs. Jerman then said—When I left here I was

taken down to the Rouse of Detention in a c:Lb.
occupied the inside of the vehicle alone. Inspector
Thompson rode outside. When I got there
I was taken round the prison by one of the
officers from cell to cell. 1 saw a man in one of
the cells like the man who put on the beard, and
who followed the three men up King-street, and
whom I again saw in New Oxford-street, and whom
I heard say, " I've shot one -, and I'm sorry I
did not fire a second time."

The Coroner—You can swear to that man ?
Witness—Yes.

Coroner—Do you know the name of the man?
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Witness—l heard the man whom I saw in George-
street call the man whom I have seen this morning
Groves.

Coroner—How many men did you see the morn-
ing before you saw Groves?
Witness—Four or five at least.

Mr. Poland—How did you you see the men ?
Witness—The door of the cell was opened, and
each man came to the door. When Groves's cell
door was open I said, " That's the man."

Coroner—Did any one tell you you were going
to see Groves this morning.
Witness—No.

Examination continued—l first heard the man at
the Bull and Anchor say, " Come on Groves, it's
time we were gone." I also heard one of the men
whom I followed for some time say, " I'll shoot the
before he gets home to-night," and then I
saw one of them take something from his breast-
pocket, but I cannot say what. I was enabled to
go to Furber's lodging by means of seeing his ad-
dress in the newspapers.
Cross-examined—I have been married five years.
My husband is a journeyman butcher. He is now
out of work. His last employer was Mr. Scarlett,
of South Audley-street. He left in consequence
of the dullness of the season. I cannot say how
many situations my husband has been in
since my marriage. I cannot swear posi-
tively to the number. 1 and my husband
have quarrels like other people. I'm not in the
habit of leaving my husband and walking about the
streets, but we had been to the theatre that evening
and we had a quarrel, owing to my husband having
taken a glass too much. I had been that evening
to the Amphitheatre. The quarrel was merely
because my husband had taken too much.
I'm quite certain about the matter. I had no
communication with any person before Furber came
to my place in consequence of the letter I sent him.
I read the account of the murder in one of the
Sunday papers, and then I told my husband I con-
sidered it was my duty to tell alll knew. I know
nothing about the reward offered for the discovery
of the murderer. I will swear I have not seen the
bills sticking about. The three men came out
of the public-house and went up King-street with-
out having any conversation. The tall man put on the
beard as he left the Bull and Anchor, and went into
the Turk's Head with it on. An officer of the
prison was the only person that accompanied me
when I was shown the men in the prison. The per-
son in the cell was told to stand forward, nothing
more. All the persons I saw were in prison clothes,
but I did not notice this matter very particularly.
Mr. Sleigh—You believe Mrs.

Witness—l don't believe. lam perfectly certain
that the man I saw this morning was the person
who put on the beard when I- left the Bull and
Anchor. I deny having given three different
versions of what I knew about the matter. I never
saw either of the men whom I have spoken of
until the night of the murder. I was with-
in three or four yards of them when I
saw one put on the beard. I heard
the conversation very distinctly, and then I followed
them up Holborn. I saw the man take the falso
beard from his pocket. I will not swear that the
man wore a greatcoat. The man had the beard
on after I bad heard the shot fired, and when I met
them in New Oxford-street. I could not see his faco
when he put on the beard.
By a Juror—What I heard the man with the
beard say near Hart-street was, " I have shot one
--; lam sorry I did not fire the second time
and shoot the right one."

By the Coroner—l told Inspector Thompson
that I saw the dark man in George-street, and two
men came up to him. One said, " good morning
Joe, how is Jack getting on ?" The dark man
said, " too true they have got the poor b---, but
no one can swear to him but me, for I was with
him on the night of the murder." He added that
if any one dared to go and give evidence ho would
shoot him in the witness box. I believe the
dark man recognised me, as he followed me down
as far as Mr. Ward's, the greengrocer, in Oxford-
street.

Mr. Sleigh reserved his further cross-examination,
and the inquiry was adjourned until to-morrow
week.

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS.

THE " CHRONICLE " ON THE ROMAN QUESTION.
—Great uncertainty still prevails as to the facts of
the insurrection in the Papal States. The conflict-
ing accounts received from official and revolutionary
sources bear a close analogy to those of the Spanish
outbreak a few weeks since. From Rome it is
announced that the Garibaldians are either defeated
or dispersed, and that the city is perfectly tranquil.
From Florence comes news that the Garibaldians
avoid concentrating themselves in masses or occupy'
ing the towns, in order to tire out the Pontifical
troops, and that the preparations for a rising
in Rome are completed. This latter view of the
circumstances to some extent recognises and
accounts for the former. The chief object of the
insurgents is probably to draw off the Papal troops
from Rome, where they have hitherto been chiati
concentrated ; and their best chance of succeeding
in this aim is to keep up an alarm upon the frontier
while the city itself is left tranquil. It will be diffl"
i
cult for the Roman Government to take no part n
protecting its own provinces, in the absence of anY
obvious necessity for the presence of its whole arinY
in the capital. General Garibaldi has made an un-
successful attempt to leave Caprera ; and it is possi-
ble that his followers are designedly holding bank
from any decisive attempt, in the expectation that
he will yet put himself at their head. S. Nlgra
has returned from Biarritz, and the most contra-
dictory reports are in circulation as to the purpose
and results of his visit. But the feeling that some
further arrangement between France and Italy
with regard to the Roman question is demanded
by the change of circumstances is daily gaining
ground. The September Convention was a coal,
the
existing entered into for the maintenance of tri
existing state of things until a more definite solo'
tiou could be arrived at. It has always offendeu
the enemies of the temporal Power by recognising
its continuance, and its friends by leaving it withoub
adequate support. It is now shown to be usel, i
useless'
even as a means of keeping things quiet. And
has consequently ceased to be acceptable to a". 7,
party whatever.

PERTINACITY OF TIIE HAWK.—A few days :IV'
as Mr. Maegilvroy, farmer, Ballachroau, Kingussie,
was taking an early walk through his fields, ho observod 5
hawk evidently intent on pouncing on a lark, lirbwil
showed every sign of being fully aware of the evil design'
of its more powerful antagonist. Alarmed at the near ap-
proach of the foe the poor little bird alighted at Mr. lauc
gilvray's feet, who lifted it up in his hand, and thus rescued
it from the fangs of the hawk. The little lark was care
fully ca'-ried home and placed in a cage. In the ew.ifq
of the same day, Mr. Macgilvray, naturally thinking tugo
the coast was clear, gave the lark its freedom; but
sooner did it wing its flight than down comes the 1110
with the rapidity of lightning and pounced its claws tit
back of its innocent and defenceless victim, earryWg
exultingly to its retreat.—hivernos Courier.