The Sun.
London, England, 1867-11-04 00:00:00

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

(From the Newmarket Correspondent of the Racing Times.)
Sporting writers have been in the habit of calling the
Houghton the last legitimate race meeting of the year; but
the two meetings held at Worcester and Lincoln must not
have the word " bastardy" applied to them, as they were
legitimate in every sense of the word. Chelmsford, lam
sorry to say, was a failure, as far as regards the attendance.
The Ring was the most meagre I have seen at any meet-
ing this year; and the principal handicap brought out
only two runners, of which long odds were laid on the
lion tamer, Van Amburgh, but Caprice won in a canter.
Mr. Fleming will not be believed when he tells his friends
again that Van is the best horse in the world. There was
some capital sport at Lincoln, but Mr. Chaplin was very
unfortunate on his own ground, as he furnished a favou-
rite for nearly every race the first day, and did not win
once. Caithness won the handicap in a canter, and was
not backed for a shilling by his own party, but he received
considerable support from the public - indeed, all those
who study public form were bound to back him, as he
was always a much better horse than Treasure Tr ov
Tho racing on Friday opened with a match between His-
torian and Miller's Maid. Seven t 3 four was laid on the
Admiral's filly, but the fielders bad the best of it again,
Historian winning by a head. In fact, luck was dead
against the backers, and not a favourite won all day. Tho
defeat of Lord Lyon in the Queen's Plato was the most
severe blow of the two days, as several people plunged on
his lordship to get their losings back. It is really ridicu-
lous to read the remarks of some sporting writers about
this race. It is quite certain they were not at Lincoln,
and could not have seen it, or they would not writ*
such rubbish ; for the greatest tyro in racing must ad-
mit that if Challoner had ever moved on his horse he
must have won. The fact is, he thought of winning hands
down ; but Custance kept his horse going, and snatched
the race out of the fire in the last stride. Lord Lyon is
a lazy horse, and would make a race with a donkey,
and wants rousing at times ; but his jockey thought
he did not require riding to beat Rama, but he made a
mistake, and put the backers of Lord Lyon in the hole
We are now told Mr. Chaplin made a mistake in not
running the match at Newmarket, as Rama could have
beat Lord Lyon, but I have no doubt Mr. Sutton would be
glad to accommodate him with a match on the same terms,
for in my opinion Lord Lyon could give Rama 71b over any
course in England. In looking over the programme for
the four days racing at Liverpool one would suppose we
were just in the beginning of the year instead of Novem-
ber. Mr. Topham has succeeded in obtaining large entries
to nearly all the races; there are eight races to be got
through on the first day, quite enough for the month of
November. The Trial Steeplechase has twenty-seven
weighted for it, and whichever Chris. Green runs will
about win, as both King of Hearts and Reporter are well
just now; and for the Hurdle Race I fancy Thalassius, if
Lord Stamford should make up his mind to run him, as he
has been schooled pretty well over hurdles lately, and
there is no better schoolmaster in England than Chris.
Green. He began well at Worcester by winning the
steeplechase with Reporter in Lord 4Stamford's colours;
as I predicted last week he would do, which augurs
well for his lordship, and' it is to be hoped fortune will be
more favourable to him at steeplechasing than it has been
on the flat. There is a large entry for the Knowsley
Nursery, but as I know nothing about the intentions of
owners of horses I am not in a position to say what is

likely to run, but I fancy the first time Mr. Richard Porter
puts the pieces down on Epworth he will be worth follow-
ing, for I feel convinced he did not run up to his trial
within two stone at Newmarket. Dawdle looks best in of
anything for the Flying Stakes, and if her party back
her she will win ; the money was on at York, when
she was only beaten a head by Sundoelah, which
was no disgrace to Mr. Beanett's mare. She has
four pounds less to carry here, which she ought
to do in this company. The next one I fanny most
is the King of Spades. Master Willie will win the Welter
Cup. There are only three closed races for Wednesday.
Skylark ought to win the Sefton Handicap, if he has any
of his last year's form left. Pero and Slander look best in
the Liverpool Nursery. The Carinthian Hurdle Race has
Thalassius in again, and I can see nothing to beat him if
he runs. On Thursday the chief event of the day will be
the Grand Sefton Steeplechase, and as the stake is worth
winning, and I know King of Hearts is well, I must give
him my vote of confidence in this company. I know
nothing about the other races on Thursday, there-
fore I shall not hazard an opinion about them,
but shall proceed at once to offer my comments on the
Liverpool Autumn Cup. Sundeelah heads the list, but after
his performance in the Queen's Plate at Lincoln ho can
have no chance, as he could never live the pace with the
other three in any part of the race. Moulsey cannot run
for ever, and indeed he must be made of iron to stand all
the racing he has had this year; and I don't expect him to
be so near as he was last year. Regalia ran well in the
Queen's Plate, with Rama and Lord Lyon for the first mile
and a half ; and I much question if she could not have beat
either of them up to that distance, as she was pulling
double at the half mile post ; but she seemed to stop as
soon as she was asked to gallop. lam afraid to trust her
on this occasion, as it will most likely be a fast-run race,
and she has plenty of weight to carry. The three-year-
olds have so often won this race, that I must look out for
another to pull me through on this occasion. Dalby has
been talked about, but I should advise your readers to lot
him alone until they see his number up ; and, as the
Squire's mare is under a cloud, I must make the same re-
mark about her. Zonobia is only moderate, and Knight
of the Garter can't get over a mile. Pearl Diver is
getting stale. Aborgeldie I have no great fancy far,
and Ackworth lost his form two years ago ; and I
very much question if he will ever turn out another
Flash in the Pan for those who follow the yearling stable.
Caithness must h-ve had an immense chance previous to
Lincoln, and as I stated last week I should stand nothing
else if I could see him well on the day ; but ho has
now incurred 81b penalty by winning the Lincoln
Handicap. It would be downright treason were I

to state my mind about this horse's running at
Lincoln, but I am quite sure they have thrown
the Liverpool Cup away, by making what I may term a
very groat mistake. The Corporal and Newland I have
Ito fancy for. Primate is well enough in, but I have not
seen him this year and cannot recommend him, for it is
really of no use to select horses to win races that one knows
nothing about; and for all I know ho may be out of train-
ing. Acteea is well in, and if she can't got a place this
time, she must be out of all form. Mandrake is a
fair honest hors; and from getting so close to
Julius, at Newmarket, at a difference of 111bs., it
would bo putting the Cosarowit 311 winner in hero at 7st. 71b.,
and he would be as near winning as possible. Proser-
pina Thalia, and Rose have no chance. 1 now come to
Honesty, and your readers are well aware of what I wrote
about this horse before the Cesarewitch and Cambridge-
shire. I then stated ho had no chance of winning, espe-
cially the last-named event, fooling quite sure the Cam-
bridgeshire hill would never suit him, but I am prepared
to see him run full 71b. a better horse next Thursday than
he did in the Houghton meeting. He has been doing
some rattling work lately, and seems to lay hold of his bit
and give his mind to it more like a race horse than he did

formerly. It is really amusing to road the different opi-
nions of sporting writers about Honesty. All those who
selected him for the two great handicaps have now put him
down as a bad horse, and perhaps they have never
seen him; besides a man is always allowed to alter his
mind as long as he lives. Honesty has, however, altered
his style of going, and I must have him to do battle for me
on the present occasion. The Doctor I have no fancy for
and Dr. Syntax has got too far into the sere and yellow
leaf to have any chance of ever winning another race. The
Peer is now first favourite, and is fancied by all the touts
and tipsters for no other reason than that they invariably
follow the money, but in my opinion he is a slow bad horse,
who wants a man to ride him, therefore I must have the
despised Honesty in preference to Lord Stamford's
horse. I have no fancy for Conundrum and Fair Wind.
Montgoubert went amiss before the Cesarewitch, but
should he come fit to the post would be dangerous with
such a light weight on his back. Bracken is well in, and
deserves some respect, but, as I have not seen him lately,
I cannot give an opinion about him. Rabbit Trap, Deceit,
and Jeanie Deans I have no fancy for. The latter could
not stay two miles with 4st on her back. Tribune I know
nothing of. Orne is a moderate horse, but I have a
strong idea he will pull off a good race before the year 8
over. I have no opinion of the remainder of the horses in
this race, and it will bo seen by the foregoing remarks that
in my estimation HONESTY and MANDRAKE aro must trust-
worthy, and that CAITHNESS will beat all those above 7st.

Conundrum, wo hoar, broke down badly on Saturday.
John Looch (2 yrs) has boon added to the list of

geldings.
The following assumed names have boon registered :
Ur. Vasoy and Mr. A. Clark.
Faint Heart, who won the Hurdle Plate at Chelmsford
on Wednesday, was sold to Mr. Seabrook for 150 guineas.
Gladiateur is advertised to cover mares at 100 guineas
each next season at Middle Park.
The Popo, 2 yrs, was sold to Mr. Savilo for 100 guineas
after winning the Witham Stakes at Lincoln on Thursday.
Phantom Sail was bought in for 52 guineas after
winning a handicap Plate at Worcester on Wednesday.
COLOURS OF RIDERS. —Mr. A. Clark, green, black and
red cap; Mr. Webb (altered to), white, blue sleeves,
orange cap.
The Liverpool Autumn Cup consists of a silver-gilt
tankard and pair of goblets, inlaid with gems. The work
is executed in the richest style, and is surmounted by a
figure of a horse and jockey. Messrs. E. and E. Emmanuel,
of Burlington Gardens, London, are the manufacturers.
SALE OP MR. CHAPLIN'S HORSES.—Messrs. Tattersall
have advertised 19 horses in training, tho property of Mr.
Chaplin, for sale on Monday, the 25th inst., at their esta-
blishment near Hyde Park ; and at the same time a draft
of 7 from Captain Machell's stud.
THE SEVERN BANK STAKES.—Lord Westmorland, after
hearing evidence, disqualified Sir William, and awarded
the stakes to Mr. R. G. Price's Nun, who ran second.
The two year old colt by Newcastle, dam by Colster-
dale out of Lateef, fell while running in the Consolation
Scramble at Lincoln on Friday, but Butler who rode him,
was not injured.
Rama was sold for 1,400 guineas to go abroad, previous

to winning the Queen's Guineas, in which ho defeated
Lord Lyon, on Friday, at Lincoln.
Arthur, late Oscar, won a Selling Steeplechase at
Worcester on Thursday, and was afterwards bought in
for 200 guineas.

TILE FORFEIT LlST.—Messrs. Weatherby announce
that the Forfeit List is being prepared for publication,
and request that gentlemen who have not yot paid their
forfeits will do so without delay.
Lord Stamford's Reporter, after winning the Grand
Annual Steeplechase, at Worcester, on Thursday, was ob-
jected to on the ground of going the wrong course, but the
objection has not yet been decided.
HEAVY WAGER.—A sensational bet of 10,000 to 1,000
was laid at the Victoria Club, on Saturday afternoon, by
Mr. Stevenson, tho well-known bookmaker, to Mr. James
Smith, of " Vigilant" notoriety, against Caithness, for the
Liverpool Autumn Cup—the taker of the otitis to have
the control of the animal until after the lace is run. All
increase of the bet to double the amount was declined
" with thanks."