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London, England, 1858-04-27 00:00:00

CADETSHIPS IN THE ROYAL ARTILLERY AND

ROYAY[ENGINEERS.

Supply,—Order for Committee read ; motion made, and
question proposed, " That M Speaker do now leave the
chair :"—Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word
" that" to the end of the question, in order to add the
words "an bumble address be presented to her Majesty,
praying her Majesty that no alteration may be made in the
principle of the existing arrangements which regulate the
admission to cadetships in the Royal Artillery and Royal
Engineers," instead thereof :—Qustion put, " That the
words proposed to bo left out stand part of the question,"
The house divided : Ayes 177, Noes 217.

AYES-177.
Adams, W. H. Fitzroy, Henry Maxwell, J.
Adderley, C. B. Fmk, Colonel Miles, W.
Aear-Ellis, Hon. L. G. Forester, Col. Miller, Stearn
Alexander, J. Forstc r, Sir Geo. Mills, Arthur 1
Antrobus, E. Frazer, Sir W. Milnes, R.
Bailey, C. Gallwey, Sir IV. 3iontgomery, 11. L.
Bantle, H. Galway, Viscount Montgomery, Sir G.
Baring, T. Gard, R. Morgan, 0.
Bernard, T. Gaskell, J. Mowbray, J. R.
Bathurst, A. A. Gavin, Major Naas, Lord
Beach, W. Gilpin, Col. H. Neeld, John
Bective, Earl Gladstone, W. Newark, Viscount
Beecroft, G. Graham, Sir J. Newport, Viscount
Bennet, Capt. P. Greaves, E. Nisbet, R. P.
Bentinck, G. Greenall, Gilbert Neel, G.
Beresford, Rt. Hn. W. Gray, Captain North, Col. I.
Blackburn, Peter llamilton, Lord Claud Parke, C.
Boldero, Col. H. G. Hamilton, U. A. Pakington, Sir J.
Bovill, IV. Hardy, G. Palk, L.
Bramley-Moore, J. Hartington, Marquis Paull, Henry
Bramston, T. W Ilay, Lord John Peel, Gen.
Bridges, Sir B. Hayes, Sir E. Repton, G.
Bruce, Major Headlam, T. Robertson, P.
Bruen, H. Heathcoate, Sir W. Rust, James
Bunbury, W. B. Henley, J. Sciater, George
Cairns, H. Herbert, S. Scott, F.
Comae, Sir J. R. Hill, Hon. R. Scott, Major
Cartwright, H. Hodgson' William Seymer, H.
Cayley, E. S. Belford, R. Sibthorp, Major
Charlesworth,J. C.D. Hopwood, John Smith, Sir ie.
Child, Smith Hornby, W. Snaollett, A.
Christy, Samuel Horgan, T. Somerset, Colonel
Clive, R. Hutt, W. Spooner, R.
Close, M. Ingestre, Viscount Stanhope, J.
Cobbuld, J.Ol Inglie, John Stanley, Lord
Coclrington, Sir C. W. Johnstone, 11.8. Stephenson, Robert
Cole, H. A. Kendall, N. Stirling, W.
Conolly, T. Ker, Richard Sturt, H.
Corry, H. T. L. Kerrison, Sir E. Taylor, S.
Cross, It. A. King, J. Vansittart, G.
Cubitt, W Kingacote, Capt. R. Vansittart, W.
Curzon, Viscount Knatchbull, W. Verner, Sir IV.
Dalkeith, Earl Knight, F. Walcott, Admiral.
Darner, L. D Knightley, R. Walpole, S.
Deedes, William Knox, Col. B. W. Warren, S.
Disraeli, B. Langton, W. G. Welby, W.
Dobbs, W. C. Laurie, John Whiteside, J.
Dud, J. Legh, G. C. Whitmore, IL
Du Cane, C. Lennox, Lord A. F. Willoughby, Sir I.
East, Sir J. Lennox, Lord H. G. Willson, A.
Edwards, Henry Liddell, H. G. Woodd, B.
Egerton, Sir P. Lovaine, Lord Wortley, Major
Egerton, W. Lyall, ileorge Wyndham, General
Elphinstone, Sir J. Lygon, Hon.F. Wynn, Col.
Elton, Sir A. H. Lytton, Sir E. Wynn, S'r W.
Estcourt, T. Maeartney, George Wynne, J. A.
Farnham, E. M'Clinteci, John Yorke, E.
Fariuhar, Sir M. Malins, Richard TELLES&
Fellowes, E. Manners, Lord J. ' Jolliffe, Sir W.
Fitzgerald, W. R. S. March, Earl of Taylor, Colonel
NOES-217.
Adeane, H. Freestun, Colonel Paxton, Sir J
Akroyd, E. Garnett, William Perry, Sir E.
A lcock, T. Gibson, Milner Philips, R.
Ashley, Lord Gifford, Earl of Pilkington, J.
Atherton, Vir. Glyn, G. Pinney, Col.
Ayrton, A. Goderich, Viscount Price, IV.
Bagwell, John Greene, John Pritchard, J.
Baines, Rt. lion. M. Greenwood, John Puller, Christopher
Barnard, Thomas Gregory, W. Ramsay, Sir A.
Bass, M. Gregson, Samuel Rawil' son, Sir 11.
Baxter, W. Grenfell, Charles W. Rebow, J.
Black, Adam Griffith, C. Ricardo, 0.
Blake, J. Grogan. Edward Richardson, J.
Bonham-Carter, J. Garden, Bram oton Ridley, George
Bouverie, lion. E. P. Gurney, Samuel Roebuck, J. A.
Bouverie, Hon. P. Hall, Sir Benjamin Roupvll, W.
Bowyer. G. li,onilton, J. Russell, Lord J.
Brand, lion. 11. ilarnilton, Capt. Russell, H.
Briscoe, John Banbury, Robert Russell, A.
Brocklehurst, J. Handley, H. Russell, F. W.
Brown, IV. Hanley, T. Schneider, Henry
Bruce, 11. A. Hamner; Sir John Scholefield, W.
Buchanan, Walter Ilardeast:e, Joseph Seymour, Danby
Buckley, Gen. Harris, J. D. Shelley, Sir J.
Buller, J. W. 11.isserd, Michael Smith, J. A.
Burghley, Lord Ilatodell, John. Smith, A.
Bury, Viscount Hayur, W Somerville, Sir W.
Butt, 14 Hodgson, K. Stafford, Marquis
Buxton, C. Borman, E. Stapleton, John
Buxto i, Sir E. N. Boward, Lord E. Steel, John
Byng, G. 11. C. Ingham, It. Stuart, Lord J.
Caird, J.l Jackson, IV., Stuart, Colonel
Calcraft, J. Jervolse, Sir J. Stunt, C.
Calcott, M. Kershaw, J. 'Sullivan, Michael
Campbell, It. King, L. Sykes, Colonel
Cardwell, E King, Edward Talbot, C.
Cavendish, W. Kinglike, A. Tancred, H.
Chohneley, Sir M. Kinghike, J. Tempest, Lord A. V.
Cla k, J. Kinnaird, A. Thompson, General
Clay, James Kirk, IV. Tite, W.
Chac), Lord R. Knatch bull-Hagues gen Tollemache, F.
Clive, George Langston, J. ii. Totaline, G.
Cobbett, J. Si. Langton, U. ti. Trelawny, Sir J.
Cogan, W. H. F. Lefroy, Anthony Truinnu, C.
Coningham, W. Lincola, Earl of Turner, J. A.
Conyngham, Lord F. Locke, J. Vance, John
Corbally, M. E. Locke, Jo:,n Vane, Lord H.
Cowan, C. Lowe, R. Vivian, 11. 11.
Cox, W. - Macarthy, Alex. Waldron, Laurence
Craufurd, E. H. J. MiCanii , J. Warre, John
Crawford, R. W. MacEvoy, E. Watkins, Col.
Dalglish, R. Mackie, J. Wegnelin, T.
Davey, R. Mackinnon, W. Western, S
Deasy, R. Maguire, J. F. Westhead, Joshua
.Deulson, W. H. Mangles, R. D. Whatinan, J.
De Vere, S. E. Mangles, C. Whitbread, S.
Devereux, J. Martin, C. White, James
Dili vvyn, L. L. Martin, P. Wickham, H.
Duff, M. Mellor, John Willcox, C.
Duff, L. Mills, 1:. Williams, W.
Ennis, John Moffat, G. Williams, S.r W.
Esmonde, J. Monorail', J. Willyams, B.
Evans, T. W. Morris, D. Wilson, J.
Evart, J. Napier, Sir C. Wilmington, Sir T.
Fagan, W. ;droll, D. Wins, J.
Finlay, A. Norreys, Sir D. Wood, W.
Fitzgerald, J. O'Brien, I'. Wo As, Henry
Foley, J. 11. O'Con'thll, I) Wyld, Janes
Foley, H. W. O'Donoghoe. The Young, A.
Forster, Charles Ogilvy, 'air J.
Foster, W. 0. Osborne, E.
Fortescue, Hon. F. Paget, C.
Fortescue, C. S. Paget, Lord A.
Fox, W. J. Paget, Lord C.

T ELLERS.

Monsell, n.
Vivian, J. C.

EXCISE DUTIES BILL.

Order for second reading read; motion made and question
proposed, " That the bill be now read a second time :"
- -Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now,"
and at the end of the questio'a to acid the words " upon
this day six months" Question put, " That the word
now' stand part of the question." The house divided
—Ayes 227, Noes 35.

NOES-35.
Agar-Ellis, Hou. L. Fagan, W.
Bagwell, John Fitzgerald, J.
Blake, J, Gavin, Major
Bowyer, G. Greene, John
Bruen, 11. Gregory, W.
Cogan, W. U. F. Grogan, Edward
Conyngharn, Lord F. Hatch 11, J.
Conolly, T. Hayes, Sir B.
Corbally, M. E. Kirk, W.
Deasy, R. Macarthy, A.
D: Vere, S. )11‘cann, J.
Doveretta, J. T. MacEvoy, E.
Ennis, John Maguire, J.

Ilfousell, W.
O'Connell, U.
O'Donoghoe, The
R ichardson, J.
Russell, F. W.
Michael
Thompson, Gen.
Vance, J.
Waldron, L.

TELLERS.
0' B rien, I'.
Esmonde, J.

IMVERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
CHURCH-RA.TES,
Mr. LYGON gave notice that he should, to-morrow,
move for leave to introduce a bill for the abolition of
church-rates.
THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA.
The orders of the day having been postponed unti
after the notice of motion on this subject,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
—I rise to move that on Friday next this house do
resolve itself into a committee to consider the Act of the
Queen which provides for the government of India, in
order that I may then have an opportunity of proposing
those resolutions which I have already laid upon the
table of the house. I think it would facilitate the
progress of affairs connected with this great subject if
the house would permit me to take this opportunity of
bricfly, and I lone temperately, reviewing what has oa
curred during the present session respecting it. At the
beginning of the year it transpired that it was the inten-
tion of her Majesty's then Ministry to propose the trans-
fer of the government of India from the East India Com-
pany to the Crown ; and, accordingly, very shortly after
the meeting of Parliament, the noble lord opposite him-
self asked leave to introduce a measure to accomplish
that object, stating with great and requisite detail what
were the provisions of the bill. On that occasion an hon.
gentleman who had presided over the great committee on
Indian matters which sat in this house in the year 1853-4,
and who was well entitled for other reasons to claim the
attention of the house—not commuricating with any
party, but acting entirely from his own conviction—pro-
posed an amendment expressing the opinion of the
hose that it was inexpedient at this time to legislate
thenoiTions of
Governmentthehouse
Upon ouflnndtiha.at
point,Whatever
there mayw
bewere
e E
the
doubt very plausible and very cogent reasons why that
amendment should have been favourably received. The
state of India at this moment, hardly reviving from an
extensive rebellion, with an important part of that
country still the seat of doubtful war—the suddenness
of the Ministerial proposition, and the grave conse-
quences which might result from it,—aed this certainly
uwe precipitately entertained so vast a proposition. That
amendment, I may remind the house, was amply and
unsisdhee d r a
abi y
d goodd o
n e s
ae
a•
why we should hesitate before
It was rejected by a very large
—by what is Galled AR overwhelming—majority, and by
furnished
that majority the noble lord obtained permission to in-
troduce his measure. I apprehend the noble lord really
formally obtained nothing else.
a reason
(Hear.) None of the
details of the noble lord's measure were sanctioned by that
vote, and I should have said, generally speaking, none of
Prir &pies contained in it. But I think it would not be
candid unless we admitted that,
besides permission to
introduce the measure, we had a right from the general
tone and tendency of the debate to infer that the opinion
of the House of Co•-amons, without giving any verdict in
cult position almost immediately after
in which this important
question
favour of the measure, was in favour of the transfer of
the governmentof India from the Company to the Crown.
Ra
tbatlarge maj irity, a change of government took place,
and those who then became responsible for affairs bad to
consider
was placed. They had to consider, in the first
place, in what relation the new Government would stand
with respect to the House of Commons, which had by so
large-a mei
•ority announced their opinion that this trans-
fer of the government from the East India Company to
the Crown should take place. They had to take into
(Hear.) Very
t hev ery unexpectedly,
d difficult