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tailed consideration of 'the measure,. he obser.Ved'i
that the clausei relating' to. the.TeduCtion ,„ot the
Militia were very:short, and amohnied to,no more
than two or three. 'With.':reipeq to the provisiont
abolishing the ballots until the Militia wac reduced
to thearnount„of its original. quotas, His Royal
'Highness seemed to disai4prove. of the prbpa:o
mode, and that would lead • him to objed tan rht se
clause's.. -He regretted the innovations made latt;er;y
in the Militia. System.: His Royal. Highness pro.
ceeded to a.detailcd consideration' of the provisions
which related to the Army of Resertee,, the powets
given to -the Inspetiors General atiditheir
Bce. of many of which lie stated'his
the provision for the 30 days residence, .was. ooe
Which • required farther considera;iot ; but
Struck him the most foreiblyof..the. whote'ovat -11'4
consideration how the proposed numbex of•then,wietts
to be raised under the:Bill, andla this he .strongly.esti

presssd a wish to be inforined. In one of .thebe pro;;
visions of the Bill, that which cont,ined the oaths
the omission of the Islandof,S.lrk an,l NLin,.struck
liirrt as tines. tionahle ; and -this periud iur 64 duration
of. service, 'with a-, refeleike!)-46 iirovisi,;n3 Of
,stibsequent 'Ads, as providitirfor by 7ttlis? s-crock
hirkas worthy of the,most serious cunside-rotion: •
*a3-sii(t that te 'Cotiol I ryr •44g:
he would observe, thai if this money whiclf.ithetes
-pfgticA)!e to raise' jvette—sv-elin- iumArful
and efficient ATlny. COMOV.I.' 10 V ktt. • :Ile
Occupy any - Cif • t r ~141.T.iishirs' • tnne.„; -but
viewing, as lie did,. the rnea's'Ati. :in its presmt.ai.hitN
-he was inclinedto oppose it.'
the.lollD'el•fA. NC E LLoR "then put cite sus•irien
when, afier.a. pause, -' ; 41-ibrtu

Earl SPEAtER. rose; sand delivered:Ms: stri ti-
Merits on the nteistire az'some length. It wasewith
-reluttance he troubled their Lordshipslnponshe Oc-
casion, blithe yielded to consideratins`of
agreed with the Royal Duke;' that if.wits imitoslib!c
t,o form a cetrett optnion'of the Bill, with: ot a :re.
ference to its provisions. *He had
`that aftcr such a length of time liati:elap'sed., some
strong arid'effiCiCtit measure would have-been brouAlti
forward ; but' great was his disappointment at see.:,
ing'such a measure' as' the present, proposed; which
at best he 'regarded- as inadequate or iiieffieient:,
The principle of the Bill referred to, artyobjitf,,the
attainment of which was highlY desiiablezitas in
•the reduction of the numbers of -the.Militia„streirsi
a friend to that system on its original principle,-
"so far approved of the measae, as the objeA-Of at-
taining a large addition to the Regular Force-of .the
Country, was one highly desirable ; but helthooijit.
the mode provided for by the -Bill was far Isom the
proper way to it. 'He did not think., the
Army of Reserve the best, medium for site.+Plysitg ,
the Regular 'Force; they all 'knew • the ;dilficulties
eXperiended in that way, and he thetefote eiCpeCtcLt
some other -method would have been suggested.
The nropositiOn oftltree-forths Of the. baulty, :as
provided by the Bill,- was an tweertain data :or theii
'Lordships to reason upon; • Another objection, of a-
nature' equally general and weighty, was theeuanti;ty
of machinery with which the Measure was clogged
the experience of former difficulties shoultl have
taught Ministers better on that .head.; • lie. thought
the provisions of the Bill.woutd not 'Only he foutld
inefficient, but unavoidably woirld be. fotind,oppras-
sive. His•opinion was, that, after 'all, the, Recruit.
ing Officers should be. resorted to ;' in the condo'.
sion of his speech 'he adverted to the time .whieli
had been lost by IVlinisters,--and, observed, that. it
was now eight.weeks since the Noble—Marquis put
off his 'Motion. • '
The 'Duke of .MalittltOSE, in a short speech,
argued ably, and. on .geneial grounds, in• faVour, of
the measure, which the- relative eircuutstances •of
the Country' with the situation of- the Contitienti
rendered highly desirable. •
The Earl of .CARNARVON opposed the Bill,
principally' on the grciiind that- the number of hied
to be raised in the several districts could. notbd
obtained ; the parish officers, were not direffed
what manner, or how., the men were to be seleCied.
With resped to 'the Militia, the -Noble con-
fessed it had beed at all times a favourite system
with him ; the innovations which had been made
from ,time 'to time; lin vve v er; had so deformed and
altered it, • that -he had- bAn obliged to give
long since. -The present Bill would relieve ,a der::
rain niimber of persohs'from liability to serve,but- rhea
'it would, heap additionalbtirthens,on a linger•schiss..
It would throw a double burtherr on 'the lauded, in,
terest,- while- persons enjoying pensions and places
wstifiril be wholly exempt. They could' not,: upder
its operatin, be liable to-serve either personaliy:,oc
by stibs'tittite. ',"'For instance," said his Lordship,'
" the Noble and Learned LW on the.Woolsackov;ho
(Verities a much larger income front his official situa..,
tion than from his 'private fortune, will betalutie
free frOm the charge -of vay big- from i'el. to. 301.. for
a subSitute." • The Militia were increased to situp
a number,. that it was -impossible to find', persons
properly qualified to att as Officers. The, Noble
Earl concluded with giving his decided negative.to
the Bill.. ' =, ~ . •
Lord . MULGR.AVE rose, and replied to the. ar.'
laments 8-f, the Noble Lard *who had just. sat down.
He would not enter minutely into the, objeftions
that had been urged, frr they were of such a nature
that it Was necessary only to set them in their pro,
per light in order to prove ,their fallacy. It would,
indeed,' afford the clearest. convittion to .every. im.
partial -Mind, that all these objedions were ill-
fonricled, when it was rectilledted what eminent; ta-
lents had been employed. against the measure, and
hoW little of real substantial and solid argument they
could produce, that went to the objeft and principle of
the Bill. • 'Their Lordships also would observe that,
notwithstanding the -".talents of the Noble Lord
who spoke last,' and—the, talents of those who

preceded him, no objeflion of any weight had
l:een advanced against the Bill now on their
Lordships' Table. If any thing were necessary
to convince him that the objeCtioos were not in_
tended to prove the inefficacy and want of merit in
the measure itstit,• but were designed merely to op,.
pose those who Were in Administration at present,
and to thwart their efforts, the speech of the Noble
Lord would have confirmed this opinion. Whoever
was acquainted with the 'talents and genius, vigour
and abilities of the Noble Lord; would not readily
believe that he. would. be reduced to the necessity of
urging light •and frivolousobjqtions against the
measure, if solid and well.letit!ded argument could
have been adduced., .It was plain, from
.his speech,
that no real arid substantial objedions_could be pro-
duced, and therefore, upon, the merits of the case,
h, had a right to claim the apvrobation and support
of their Lordships, and of every person who wished
well to the :Government of his Country. If the
ohjedions of the Noble Lord. had been really urged
to the merits' of the Bill, and not to the persons,
who brought it: forward, it would, however, have
been unnecessary for him io have departed from hat
manly, fair, and proper course of argument, ,Which
must be expelled in
.that,house. He would not, in
that case, have resorted to that lovi• vulgarity of sen-
timent which left him nothing else to say-in support
of his‘side of.the question,, except to allude to the
Income of the Noble Lord on' the Woolsack, and to
itiveach the fairness.aud justice of the means by
whicii he attained that income.
Lord-CARN ARVO.III.—" My Lords, I call to
-order. I never said, nor meant to say, :hat, the
Learned Lord on the .Woolsack had acquired his.
incoone by improper. marts. My Lords, 1 positive.
deny—.,
: I,,ord:HA.wEsnuaY.—" My Lords, I call to

Lord MULGRAPE.--7" I only meant to say--
"(Here there raw; a et:), from different parts of the
.11011.te, some calling. for •
,Lord CARD.tARvoN, others
for Lord 1-±AWKE'iBURY, and others for Lord Mu L-
GRAVE).
The:LOP:D.CILINCE4LOR.-",My Lords, I:
undersood the Noble Lord (Caotr4AßvoN) merely
-Tose'to Speak to order, and 'therefore, in my .poi.
Ilion, he has a right to claim the attention of the
what he has to offer in explanation"—(A
laud ,cry of ‘i Rear ! Hear!")
Lord C i?N ARV9IV.—"NIy Lords, I have onl)
to say, that it never entered into toy, imagination
to state that the gible and Learned Lord on the
Woolsack had acquired the greater part of his in.
come in any way inconsistent with propriety, or
the principles of the British. Constitution ;
.I only,
said, that: the principal parr of the income of the
Noble-Lord was derived from other sources than his
landed property. This, I believe, he himself will
confess. It Makes nothing against him nor his in_
come, but, at the saute time, .it, goes fully to sup-
port my argument.;
Lord MULGR APE then proceeded. The ar-
guments of the Noble Lord were, however, desti-
tute of their usual force ort this cecaSion,, a circum_
stance which went in a great • measure to s'ogg,toi
that his objedions were, nor so, much against the
Bill itself, as against those who
,brought in thC,Bill.
Hit Lordship had characterized the measure as
cruel, unjust, and oppressive, and as overturning, in
a great degree, tile means of recruiting for the
Regular Army, while it so much reduced our Con-
stitutional Force, the Militia. But if their-Lord,
ships only looked to #the ballot for the Army of
'Reserve and the Militia; w!lich this measure went
to destroy, could it be called cruel' and oppressive ?
Many of their Lordships, well knew the evils re_
suiting frnm.this severe mode of raising men. The
ballot Often fell on poor people who were utterly
unable either to provide Substitutes or serve per:
tonally, on account of their families, which, in
such an event, must be thrown upon the Parish for
support. . In the present measure, this severe grie - ,
vance was removed—the men, instead of being pro
cured by a heavy contribution on particular 1
(leak were to be provided by general and impartial
cotyributinns from the Parishes, which were either
to furnish their quota of men, or , pay. the floes,
-which would -enta‘ble the Reel uiting Officers to pro.
cure thorn.. Was it possible, then, that this would
be celled a cruel and oporessive measure by any one
who attended to its 'obvious tendency, without pre.
judice or partiality ?. No, it could nor he. What
deli could be cil,jeded to the Measure? In fact; no.
thing could be urged against it on its own merits,
as far as it was a measure of trial. It was a mea-
sure the best calculated, under the present circum.

stances of the C untry, to answer- the purposes
which the. Government of this Realm ought steadi-
ly to keep in view. It went to for the
safety and benefit of the State, with as little incur,-
venience to the Country as the nature of things
would admit of. It went to relieve the poor and
industrious Peasant from the heavy weight of the
ballot, which sometimes was apt to crush
and his family to the dust. It wits calculated to
afford every relief whichwas possible, under-exist-
ing circumstances, to those who were leastal,:. to
endure the burden which the necessities of the
times rendered it necessary to n-npoe., Could
this -then be called a cruel and oppressive mea,
sure ? Never, by those who were disposed can.
didly to -advert to t.he real tendency of it, and
to consider it On its own merits, witOout regard t,
prejudice or Party. Why then, with regard to flit.
Militia, he had the honour,, when spektvg from
another side of the House, to advert to this subject,
to utter sentiments which, at that time, met
tr,lll the concurrence of the Noble Lord (a (;v of
1‘ Hear! Hear !") The Noble Lord had tlaen coo. •

curred it] the propriety of keeping the Militia to
their proper establishment,; in order to reader it

possible to furnish them with that peculiar species
of Officers, which, in a particular manner, fitted the

11,1ilitia for a Constitutior4l F.)ice. Bat now, when
the object of the present was precisely what the

No!)leLord aneared to halve c,,ritendeCi for, how

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was it that. he suddenly became averse to that very
measure for which he had riefore dipl:iyed •so much

? This Bill was calculated to reduce the Mi.

liti4 to thi!..ir constitutional esTablishinent ; to thai

precise !:umber which the Nuble L.,rd had eagerly
desired. It went tp .destroy :Fe and other
obncAti.)us circumstances to
.which the N6ble.Lord
had formerly given his dissent. Was it 'not then

somewhat extraordinary, that he should still pers'i!t
in his opptssition to the measures of Government,
when these measures were perfealy consonant tot:a-
plans which Ate himself had formerly supported
Te Noble Lord had excited his talents to oppose,
what, in his opinion, were the very measures %dile!•
he wished to adopt when he had the honour of
speaking from the other side of the Rittile. But, in
fad, the arguments adduced against the Bill, did nor
go in any degree to affed its merit. What were
the objects of the Bill ? They were to provide that
proper Disposable Farce which waerequisite in 'the
present circumstances of the Country ; to relieve
the individual from the heavy effeas of the ballot,
and lay them upon the community, where in justice
all burshens ought to be laid, sinless they were to
be-laid partially and unjustly ; and to_ foupd a; per-
manent resource for the recruiting of the Army.—
Where, then, were the objeCtionsof the Noble Lord ?
They could, nor be to the destruction of the ballot,
for that he himself had on many occasions repre-
hended. They could not be to the,destruction of
the Militia, fur he himself had declared that, it was
proper they should be reduced to their constitus
tiogal establishment ; neither could they be to ,the
raising a Disposable F ice, for this he had also de.
dared was very desirable. To what part of the
'measure then were his objeCtions applied ? Oh, the
Bill was 'not calculated to be efficacious; it could
not be attended with any expeditious or permanent
effect. It was a vain attempt to endeavour to ;Cro-
cure men for the first battalion, by recruits from the
second_ These argurnentshe had heard adduced 'ore
different occasions, and -by men Of considerable
lents. But these objeaions were rather 'Specious
thin solid. He had been for some time in the
;Army. A Serjeant in* the Guards had been pre_
vented from going to'Holiand,-although belonging;
to one of those Companies which Were sent there'
'The consequence was, that he dez.eited; and never
'made his appearance till'he sheaved himfself on ship-
board, so anxious was he to share in the 'dangers
and glory of his 'companions. ThisAvas a probf
that no account of the danger's and difficultieiOf
-the first battalion would prevent the men \'sho--cons,
posed the second from being desirolis' Of 'ehterink
into it. We 'were to recoiled that thjleeliilgs-,61
-Englishmen would lead theM al-Ways' to partieipate
-the danger; and-glory of their conipanions ;coold we
suppose that they svisu!sl be`So intich swayed by std.
fish and cold consideratiOns, as to desire to remain
s.,
'at home inadive when their. friends:Wets oiasasiSt
the Enemy, and adding addithosal lustre to she
name ofsoldiers, by their exploits-in deferiee of their;
Country? No; these were,not the 'ets:traeteristic of
Englishinen. The generous feeling of stheil datnre,:
-which had shone fot,h so 'O6 "many oc&a..
sions, would !sad them so aspire with ooble-emilla (ion
to rival the-glory of their comrades. This was the
way in 'which the measure Wou;il operate,' what-
ever' those keho were less-acquaineed with the siub-
teel mighs 'Adveriii'ig then 'to all these
circumstances ;',Considerin; 'the genius of the Eng-
lish Na:isn,- the zeal of tine People for the National
Dsfens:e and the National Glory ; the g'enersilts
smalatton of the lowest'of its subjects, who seemed
feel the• happy 'effeets -cif a free Constitution ;
with 'all these thing's could n 6.1 'but ex-,
pret that the present 'measure Would, be abundantly.
;(lequ'ate•to all the purposesfor 'Which it Was-intend-
' ed. With this convietion-on hisnaind; he Was sa' ti's-
fied that the measure how proposed *as one whietl
ought to meet with the. approhation of the HOnse,
and every unprejudiced ;lesson in the Na.'tionS
Earl MOIRA opposed the- Bill. 'The arguMents
of the Noble Lord who spoke' last, were-ndt•Contlu_
sive in favour of the measure whiCh he wished to
support. In order ' folly 'to' appreciate 'the merits
_of the Bill now bet tre the House, it was necessary
to consider what the nature of-that situation was in
which -the present. Minister's 'Stood.; the circun_.
stances of :the Country, and the'ineastires WhiCh'it
had a right to expect at the hands &those who had
assmed its Government_ The present IVlini,;ters Nati
entered upon their offices with pledges to the Country
that they would correct all the errors of the late Ad-
Ministration,. that they would strengthen ourde-
fence,where it was weak, and supply it where' it was
'wanting. They had come' into .p6Wei on the
implied condition of remedying the defeas.of their
predecessors. They 'pledged' theinselves'io put
the Defence of the Country on a 'More secure Tourida-
tioo, and a firmer basis that's it had beeti.' During
the continuance of the former Adtniniatratibro they
had 'engaged'to ensure our defence at 'home, and
our respettability abroad. This-Must-be theobjeet
that they had in' view ; for 'this was 'the resson Tor
the retirement of the last Administration. He would
consider the -question without' the smalleit'allusion
to the manner in which the present -Administeation
had been formed; and this was' a condunl which
those on the, same side with him would certainly
pursue. The Bill would be discussed on its -:own
merits, and the elle& which it was 'calculated to
`produce.
The question, then, would be, the ob_
jed and tendency of the Bill, and how 'far themeang
were fitted to attain the objed proposed'? ' With
regard to the objea of the Bill, as farai it went to
the establishment of a Permanent Force, fort the se-
curity of this Country in these perilous times, no
objeltion could, with justice, be made; 'with regard
to orOviding a Disposable Force, this was also not
only desirable, but absolutely essential to tlse;svel.
fare and dignity of this Country. It was necessary,
in the present circumstances' of Eurbpe, That the
`Country should be pbssessed of a large DispOsable
-Force, not only to ensure• its' safety, but also to
support that respeetability which it -ought to' hold
in the scale of Nations: What; then, were the
means provided by this Bill for attaining these ob.
ice}, ,1' With regard to our honie'defenCe, we were
fully and amply prepared in that respell, and it
would he entirely ridiculous to,, talk of 'an-Enemy
making any serious" impression upon the Country in
its present state of security. There' was' no neces-!.
sity, therefore,
.for talking of that general despair
Which had sometimes been mentioned. We were I

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not rrduced to the last extremity nor obliged only
to consider. how, like Julius' Czsar, we shimid
cently die ; something more was to be Considered ;
we ought to hav'e a Disposable' Force: The Noble
Lord who spoke last had treared'ul:tfairly the argd.
'merits used on his gide of the House: • It was not
'Zilietted that the Bill. would be iuiallyliadeqUate rb
the Defence of the Country ; that point Was already

attained. The provisions for the security of the
Country were now fully sufficient, and it was in truth
titteriy- impossible that any danger from the Ene-
my could now seriously he apprehended. But the
question was, Hew we were to.procure a Disposabl
Force adequate to the present emergencies ? N.
man could imagine that at the present mnment there
was any Opportunity to employ such a Force on the
Continent ; but it was not in the mother-it when it was
-wanted that we ought to set about procuring a_) s.
posable Force. This Bill, however, would not serve
speedily to procure a ,'ore.e equal to our home de.
fencee bus- the, point Was, to procure a Force tide-
. quate to .our present emergencies. Why 'did- we
. enter upon wart? Was itim
not because it was
possible:to exist under the shadow of France ? To
say that the Rock of 'Malta .was the cause of,. the
War was ridiculous. The 'cause of the War was,
that this CoUntry could 'not with sidety allow
:the
aggrandizement of France, in consistency, with
which this Country cannot maintain that place
atirmi the Nations'of Europe which it is entitled
to-hold. We were not to-look -to a defecsive War
Merely. It was' necessary we eshou:d be prepared
With a Disposable. Foree; to enter .ieto any means,
with'alacrity. that offtred a favoprab:e prosped of
curbing the power of Fr.-Ince: We were the most
interested in the presenteWareof any Nition of
'Europe,' wind we. ought, therefore, to be ready to
any Nation:which. et-tuld 4oire us in the con.
test ; and-this:was the elsjed which Ought to be kept
in view, in considering .sise-inerits -of .the yeesene
Bill. Now, then,- this view pt'
what' Were the provisions, of this .and .how
were they:..calculatedeoee-oduce.theirdesirel t4:feffs'?'
The Bill, he said,--had b-eli called meg:story itoLl
pressive. 'With respect to the former point, iihatl•
been so much argued,_ that be should say 'nothing
more :Upon the subjed j'he;: I<3il"I was, however,
oppressive, inasmuch as it compelled' the Parishes .
to pay the sarne fines whether they neglefted to
raise the men through iliait'ention or disobedience,
'or whether they were unable to.taise theirein con.
sequence of „being previPusly exhausted by the of
fedied_other measures and-41111ex tHE"knew,
tor instance, a County in Scoelaude,sthere so many
men, had_ been
.'raised for the Militia and Army of
ReseiVe,-.apd"rehere sp.many, had _come forward as
'Voluteteers,- not with 'any v.:ieW to exc.:l.'4)6°,
oS,but
Yaettbited 'by trii: patriotic sPirit; and by an arcant
:desire to meet -the Foe whenever he should land,!
'that it was itnposSible 'for. them, to:Make Up'. ch`eir,
9;totaunder the pr'sent.llll.l.. This shAwed. the ill.
justice of the measure;, as it pressed eTally upon allj.
alike, without any regped
vious services or,.eNcrtion. -He admitted that it,
.was necessary to increase our Disposable Force, :but
was the present the best mode of doing-it 1 We had
at present, a larger 'Force for deferisiveepurposes
than we ever had before, and a Force in tliat respett
amply sufficient.: but did the present meiisure.
give us the means of- increasing, out ,Disposablei
-steorceein that degree, which the present situation -ofl
Europe rendered necessarYi- and- to that extent!
which VVid required, to preserve 10, us.thac
„pm-
mantling position to which we were crititled?' He
could re,t see that, this coirld be effetie by ',a mcil_
sure that could •. not operate. until
,Oetolser. 18os,
whilst, in the mean time, and4ven at the' present
moment, the Enemy.were at our gates: He thought
on the. contrary, that the objett in -Viet's, would
be Much- better accomplished by immediately al-
lowing the reduetiori of the Militia, Or, ::in other.
words;; allowing -overplus above the number
which they
,were intended to' ,be reduced, to'
volunteer into :the Line. This he considered
to be a much better expedient than passing a,
Bill,' the. purpose
.of which was, to take' the
chance of raising a certain number of men' within:
a certain term,: with the hope that a strfficient
number, of them would 'volunteer. into the Line.;
With respeet toethe IVlilitia;• they 'might ad upon
almoit a certainty that a large proportion. Of them
would cuter into the Regular Army; but witheresped,
to the present measure, if it was passed,. they..would,•
have 'merely a contingent hope that a certain-number
therti would, if raised,. enter in si,Milar manner.:
The present Bill he considered as-wholly inadequate'
to io:"Prelposed.ply'pose. A:Noble Lord had. saidohat,
there were. still fourteen thousand men iQ be-raised:
'to complete 'the complement of the Army of Re-.
serve ; and yet the
..compulzory_reg,ulatiOn
Bill was far behind thOse of that Measure which vi eras
eXpresslpeo raise that description of force.. '.;\liosv
then, when it was acknowledged tiaf_the.Arriiy Of
Reserve Bill had been exhausted' in its effect, were
theyio expe'd that the, present measure would.. be
proilotlive of Men? , It was much more probable
thaK they:might-obtain an immediate supplyfrom the
Militia; and in.soYing this, he wished to allude to a
subjeCt which had-been before toucheitupon, nanee
ly, enlisting men for limited service for-the Regular
Army. There was a sort of 11L-rror atiached to the
-idea of a man's enlisting for life -in the Regular,
' Army, which preCluded a great numberefrom enter.:
'ing into that description of service; but he was
couvinced, that if the period of service was limited,
a much larger proportion of men might be obtained,
He considered the present as an inetheien: measure,
inasmuch as it did not tend to raise a number of men
promptly and immediately as they were wanted ;
'but nierely..held;otit a prospedive hope of i certain
number being added to,
,our Disposable Force. It
was in this view that he opposed it, considering
that a large Disposable Firce,was absolutely neces,
sary to enable this" Country to 'maintain 'thatcom-
manding situation which the present exigency Of
affairs called for,. and 'to which she was entitied.--;
Wltilst, as at the present moment, a. general rorpoi
Seemed to pervade Europe, it became more peculiarly
the objea of Country to preserve her elevated
position,sabd he trusted no ore would dare to pro-
pose any 'measure 'which should have a eendency to
remove; us from that commanding situation.
Lord iIIELIILLE.—"' There ate some things,
my Lord, which. I have heard, at which, I am much
astonished. I must, however, first premise, that the
present measure ought to be judged Ofactording to
its own merits, and not as compared with measures
suggested; which it js uncertain will ever be recei v..
ed. The present measure goes to raise a Certain
number tnen for limited service; as a step'to ge.
neral servicee, That this, is a god and•approved
inethoil, I clunk there can be little doolv. I agree ice
all that has been said in' praise of. the Army of Re.

•
.41.ve Bill.. I admit that it raised a Luger nuirlb't
of men than could have been raised in the,same pe-
riod by any other means. I join in every prose
given 'to the AuthOrs of that Bill, the principle °'
which is preserved in' the present me:isure, %vial t,llc
exception of the oppressive method of ballot. Tne
principle, my Lords, of raistrig men for limited ser-
vices, with a -Vie* to their al-reAs6id; entering .f 4
general service, has been sitrai•ned-afill-frMild to be
efFeetive ,who has once en' •
teied iiii.fitairtite7Jeels himself urged on
d it and an energy. svhicli inducts him to eater
the career of military'dtity;'.alid.to- extend his
services for an unliniited,Perkid of Which fi...bad
first no idea.. There is Something philciscr~ll al et!
the mind of man, which ithoels-hirn fOrward whe°,
he has chosen the Military prOfessibh, and urges,h,
On to engage unlimitedly in the service of C(3-1,11:
try. I tememberl was the.:iurhor of a
Which -I did not receive much thanks rtrotn
Itl tubers of this House, n,4- tor which probably s-h"i!
now experience limn " them much ci,mnieiicle:;,ll °,n,"
for purpose of inducing Men toent•-fr - •
Supplementary Militia into, the Regular Arm)'-
res Ult of •tlia't ;Measure, 110v/es/Tr way, tir't to t`tt
:course of.a few .monilis for tholisand men were
twined. fcr the Regular, Armv.'This is a .1'3"'1'11
of 'what may 'be obt?indl•
'11(1 should :lie reco le4ed that there is 3 spirit
amongst •it)n..olo • have been once en.V.gje,"
~military life, 'to which no' ordinary; "eit
lv-londs. A Private in the A rrtiv,. thOu.th ,4ie
petsonal ..advantage,, yet .feels p(iignantly
1-lbriour of hiS!COulitrY is •i on 1
if . "..."Jt' •
0 er valour, by, a ,
bY rneasqrcpt
.francel all c
riti and willi4bl4',ife:y,
,considered as ypiyis-ed raise' -..i.t•-rtainTr!lirnixkl
mt'ne' with itfr.' artiiOu,_cirtain:• •t-t tA-^a 1370 i:
p-ort i -them entering. into the R:'-g•111-# • 11'-'g'.°l
agree with :the '
.1,041) res':pt-1.4 to ihe':neeess:ltY- 91
1-514.1 sable, Force ; but 1.. etort-dlid „tka 'tl
Vs-'
:measure is' the -hiSt ml
take.in'to
'ties, •is an.)sr'pra !ea
:tend; that exiierie'neethat tip'
.}st
recruiting 4 rivice b.firsterl%._ •
- •;)
for It . Ltl~ii3eru,i(e.
~ftng ,themffrom whe4lce It i 1
ec~mes.an easy tram,i:ibt; .tO-et-itet-•intoAriei3ll•;"
T;':this Enthie
,catch Al __the spirit of- inlairis; 'and are-touCqn:„,.."c,
easily induced chin 't6 niherwisegs
_ e
forward it, increase Di vosable force. ;_-
would • beteolllC4e4l-;41114t-rifitr!''7 rniy -of P.F;i: .
as-on 7,r6;tfiiY-lrad-entis-T1:3;
general serviee' wrthin tht4s'iaCe of twelve na,..°,2•ci0..,
etnly Jitter fiaSslng the Army of"' it e;e64: ret',-"A
Could it then be,OiS that not hi,;(-4 W- 6e •
.
to
114mnn the present nics Lire, ,sv hen 'experience a 4-
shesn ,that the -Army of ,Reserve, oar Which-1425, '
Veil4trida t ion of
,had I, rod wied such.
iVi
- theY of '
lt
Lords,C l'tu'egsieYrZl-crr-B'eiiiH'
il
broughtwho
In so doing- they. rendered act essential set vice;,t°r' sirs.
country ; and 1 .approve of the ' mew
cipallY, as mm most perwlerful- and'effic#iii"u•"i irt.4l
carrying into ,ComiAtte."•:texeiiiiiian
leas
of that- ve.ry Bill: It ivallovved, on all ha„`' 'Fure
we are in want of a Much greater
•than the Country n( w. p.ossesse.s : to obt. in thisvico,-
pOsable Force is the principal obj,a we he. v it
and no:lpotde appears tome more likely
than the present BBL, have, heard a .Noble L.. •
t this
who once spoke highly of the Militia --Force
Ann"
Country wboadmeredit as our Constitniim al
and out principal defence, now 'appear to sre'
-- - - to prOCLI

somewhat slightly of it ;• it is like as it the,'
made a fair and amiable Lady the darling, bu.!*-s's' 1
,7T,cl;
she is-grown old and ugly, -,fat and sv,-,elleo)'ae...
turn from.. her. with. loathing.—Tina ,rnanY
s
riiLoiircritgEeciiloB:;l:::::.flilygitritscv. [Lite: ~,noa.l:lll..e"iT'Cl:l'e'
naMr'7lllleicintelit)a:rli'S:)7o,l::slll:;.l...l9:#'l':?::::.
gency of- the •tiniesi ditia'VOrci,N-
Ac2lone t, hRC t-lge'-eatinsMt- ff194t1:?:111t'l(176:.
circum-Jances fr„rs thels1(01;..
f` cxcendecf bej'onil the limits of- the
they found- it again- returning'. to its .6e11:7';•) tile
sincere friend to thi, part: of °tit,'
mains under those limits which•the
hadtu t i obne
ern )f
rer.de red gartehaFet-olVirecreilittc:leaa's'tthotahstrirteuClilneorsuein.itcroin`-Va:l7l.ll::Y:74,ti:irdi,l-:''.?;:.
justly be placed. in. They tgYlPCse.":rd',
services beyond the limits of.their.o.kgi4l3
ments, and acquired for thernserve4'ir.i'3t
I have rlo doubt hoc the Regiments-
the same thing over again in similar .ltiCti(
-and will deserve an-equal crPiiii whenthis re."-,:p4;
shall take plaCe I will a,k the warmest
of the Militia System to sip-, whether he ha5.a...n1,,---
• that 34,000 Recruit's for general service ci,uhl
had within the year from any number-of Volu"*.
rem from the, Militia ? Now, ;rny Lord, when
rte
consider'tlw deficiency to tie tilled up by•
.present the great, char.ce. oftnany.enterirg • '
from this new additional
.Force into the Line,'l'lllols'-'''
I mly fairly caleuk:e on.-its -adding 34,006 to .:theDisposable Force of this Country twelve'.
month. My Louis, I think it the particular t'2‘.-
cellency of the Bill, that while it proles-es on
.•
viise a considerable'Uuniher of then tor ,litniti.cl;sc!",`
vice, it gibes us a ratiottai h:Te ,find ell viiimiej Wt.
. pedation that many of them may afterwards enter
for an unlimitea 'and g.'netal service. I considertliat
the natural kiisPOsition of a military man. his Fassl6°s •
and his feelings, justify me amply in making this OP'
position. What, can be more natural for a }r'°'•‘it
man who has. learnt to be a Soldier, than when
hears his comrades talk of the battles they have seen,
and the different parts of the world in which
e tt!cf,..
have served their Country, to form a wish that h,
.shosilnain -his .shsre of glUry, and see what his ;
panions have told him ot ? It is this martial of
which alone can rouie our young SOldiers tOdeet „
glory and of en terpr ize ; nutzabccs of Chem are rea‘l/,