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London, England, 1867-07-25 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, THUIiSDAY EVENING, JULY '5, 1867.

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tiPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

UNT INGLiON RACES.
WEDNESDAY.

The Milton Stakes of 5 Aovs each, with 50 added, for two
year olds; colts Bst 101 b, fillies Bst 71b. T.Y.C. Half a
mile straight.

Prince Soltykoff's Pyrenees, by Arthur Wollesky—
Prairie Bird, Bst 101 b (inc. 31b ex.) ,..(J. Mann) 1
Count Lagrange's Jenny, 9st (inc. 71b ex.) (T Cha!louer) 2
Mr. Macherzie's Bassoon, Bst 41b (Payne) 3

Betting-7 to 4on Pyrenees, sto 2 agst Jenny, and 8
to 1 agst Bassoon. \Von easily a length and a half.
The Ramsey Abbey Nursr.ry Plate of 100 sous, added to a
Handicap of 10 sons each, 3 ft; throe quarters of a mile.
Mr. Lonogan's Meliora, by Optimist—Queen Christin%
Gst (Jeffereyi 1
Marquis of Hastings's See Saw, Bst 101 b (Cannon)) 2
Captain Macholl's Liquidator, 7st 111 b (Chaßimer 3

The following also ran : —Kingsland, Furious, Elmira,
Oracle, War Queen, Lady Dundas colt, and Dunoon.
Betting-6 to 4 agst See Saw, 9to 2 agst 111eliora, 10 to
1 each agst Kingsland, Liquidator, Furious, and War
Queen, and 12 to 1 '.gst Oracle. Won easily by a couple
of lengths.

The Apethorpo Scurry handicap of 15 sous each, 3 ft, with
200 added. Three quarters of a mile.
Lord Coventry's Goojerat, by Stockwell—Lady Gough,
4 yrs, 6st 131 b (S. Mordan) 1
Lord Westmorland's Indian Star. 4 yrs, 7st ...(Kenyon) 2
Mr. IL J. Jones's Skylark, 6 yri, 7st 121 b (Carroll) 3
King Charming and Troublesome also ran.

Betting-5 to 4 agst Goojerat, sto 2 agst Indian Star,
5 to 1 ag3t King Charming, and 6 to 1 agst Skylark. Won
very cleverly by a neck. • .
Match : 50, h ft. T.Y.O.
Mr. Fulkes's Red Conyn, by Vengeance— Misserima,
2 yrs, Bst 101 b ('r. French) 1
Lord Westmorland's Osprey, 2 yx,s, Bst 51b (Cannon) 2
Betting-2 to 1 on Wprey: Won easily by half a
length.

Tho Corporation Stakes of 5 so-is each, with 50 added;

. three quarters of a mile.
Mr. Thellusson's Elmira, by Wild Dayrell—Emotion, 2
yrs, Gst Glb (car. 6st 81b) (.£200) (Cameron) 1
Lord Westmorland's Betty, 2 yrs, 6st 91b (X 100) -
(Kenyon) 2
Captain Mitchell's Shrew, 2 yrs, Est llb (.£100) (Jefferey) 3

The following also ran.:—Minuet, Cauthleen, Ottoman,
Splendour, and Lateef colt.

Betting-7 to 4 agst Splendour, 4to 1 agst Betty, 6to
1 agst Minuet, and 8 to 1 each agst the Lateef colt, Shrew,
and Elmira. Won by a short head.

The Huntingdon Cup, value 200 sous, by subscription of

10 sous each, and 100 sous added. Two miles.

Mr. Proctor's Amanda colt, 3 yrs, 6st 41b (Butler) 1
Lord Bateman's Moulsey, 6 yrs, 9st llb (Chall3ner) 2
Marquis of Hastings' John Davis, 6 yrs, 9st 11b (Parry) 3

The following also ran: Eglamour, Chippenham,
Rama, Lecturer, and-Fitz-Ivan.
Lucifer was scratched at 1.43 p.m. on the day of the
race. The Marquis of Hastings declared to win with
Lecturer.

Botting-5 to 2 on Lecturer, 10 to 1 agst Rama, 11 to 1
agst the Amanda colt, 12 to 1 agst Moulsey, and 15 to 1
agst Fitz-Ivan. Won cleverly by three quarters of a
length. . _ _

The Oakley Selling Plate of 50 sovs, added to a Sweep
stakes of 5 sovs each. T.Y.C. (half a mile).
Mr. Harlock's f, by Sing of the Forebt —Come Arouse,
2 yrs, 6st (X5O) (Goodwin) 1
Capt. Machell's Haymarket, 2 yrs, sst ilb (.£3O)
(Jefferoy) 2
Mr. J. Dawson's Lateef c, 2 yrs, sst 71b (.1.30)
(G. Martin) 3

The following also ran: -Rose, Duch3ss f, Stanley,
•Aspasia, Drum Major, and Hattie.
Betting-5 to 2 each agst the Come Arouse filly and
Haymarket, 5 to 1 agst Stanley, and 8 to 1 " bar three."
Won cleverly by three-quarters of a length.
The Peel Plato of 200 sovs (Handicap); winners of any
handicap after July 18 (at 10 a.tia.)slb extra; half a mile,

straight.
Mr. Chaplin's Volunteer, by Alarm—lona, aged, 9st 41b
Mr. Welsby's Lady Rosehill, 3 yrs, 7st 21b...(CCIuuttlanbr 1
e 2
Mr. Do Is Co's Gretna, 4 yrs, Gst 121 b ' (Goodwin)) 3
The following also ran :—Queen of Trumps, Mrs. Strat-
ton, Victress., Custaloga, Beceivei, Feemy, Miss Frances,
Earl of Derby, Thermometer, Ens in Urbo, Rebecca colt,
and S unnylocks.
Betting-5 to 2 agst Volunteer, 7to 2 agst Sunnylocks,
7 to 1 agst Thermometer, 10 to 1 agst Queen of 'humps,
16 to 1 agst Gretna, and 20 to 1 agst Deceiver.
Won in a canter by two lengths.

LATEST BETTING ON THE COURSE.

GOODWOOD STAKES.
sto 1 east Jezabel (offered— take G to 1)
8 to 1 agst Guy of Warwick (taken freely)
GOODWOOD CUP.
sto 2 agst Lecturer (offered)
DEDDY.
15 to 1 agst Blue Gown (taken)
16 to 1 agst Suffolk (taken)
1000 to 30 agst St. Ronan (taken)
WINCHESTER RACES.—WEDNESDAY.

The Uxbridge Cup, value 100 sovs, added to a Sweepstakes
of 10 sovs each, h ft. One mile.

Duke of Beaufort's Lord Ronald, by Stockwell, Edith, 5
yrs, 9st 81b (inc. 31b ex.)
Duke of Newcastle's Julius, 3 yrs, Bst 31b (inc. 3lb ex.)
(Crow) 2
Ms. A. Day's Chilbolton, 4 yrs, Bst 31b (A. Sadler 3
Mr. W. Rigby's Crossfire, 3 yrs, ist 21b (£5O) (Peppier 4
Mr. J. Day's f, by North Lincoln—Catawba, 2 yrs, sst 71
(Prangle) 5
Betting-5 to 2on Julius, and 3to 1 agst Lord Ronald.
Won cleverly by a neck.

Thci Crawley Stakes (handicap), of 50 sous. T.Y.C.
Duke of Beaufort's Lady Hester, by Thunderbolt—
Lurley, 3 yrs, Gst 91b (Praugle) 1
Mr. Samuel's mour Propre, 3 yrs, 6st 9,b (Peppler) 2
Sir J. Hawley s Vabalathus, aged, Bst ..... (Fordharn) 3
Duke of Hamilton's Greenford, 3 yrs, 65t.......,(Webb) 4
Bett.ing-6 to 4 agst Lady Hester, 7 to 4 agst Vabala-
thus, and sto 2 agst Amour Propre. Won by a head.
The City Members' Plate of 50 Soya (if three start); three
year olds Bst, four 9st 21b, five 9st 91b, six and aged
9st 131 b; the winner to ba sold for 150 soya ; if enteee d
for 100 soya allowed 51b, 80 81b, 50 141 b, 30 211 b; five
furlongs.
Mr. H. Wright's Reindeer, by Mountain Deer—Sultana,
aged, Bst 131 b (X5O) (Clements) 1
Mr. Land's Knight Templar, 3 yrs, Gst 71b (X3O)
(Neale) 2
Mr. A. Day's The Flying Spanker, 3 yrs, 6st 71b (.£3O)
(Elton) 3
Duke of Hamilton's Miss Elizabeth, 3 yrs, Gst 71b g3O)
(Webb) 4
Mr. Brayloy's Miss Alice 3 yrs, 6st 71b (x3O) (Prangla) 5
Mr. Hyles's Ellen, 3 yrs, 'Gst 71b (X3O) (G. Bradley) 6
Betting-6 to 4 agst Reindeer, 3to 1 agst Miss Alice,
4tolags Miss Elizabeth,cleverly
sbyhalf a
anldensgtt.
ohl agst Flying Spanker.
Won very

The Grange Park Stakes of 15 sous each, 10 ft, with 40

added, for two year olds. T.Y.C.
Duke of Beaufort's Europa, by Trumpeter—lonica,
Bst 131 b (inc. 71b ex.) (Fordham) 1
Mr. Padwick's Witchcraft, Bst Gib (A. Sadler) 2
Mr. Brayley's Mariner, Bst 101 b
_ . _ _ _

Betting-100 to Bon Europa. Wun easily by a length.
Her Majesty's Plato of 100 gs., for three year olds and up-
wards ; weight fur age. Two miles.
Mr. Brayley's Douro, by Arthur Wellesley—Jenny
Lind, 4 yrs, 9st 71b (Murray) 1
Colonel Knox's B 1 ck Prince, 4 yrs, 9st 71b...(kordlnun) 2
Mr. A. Day's Chilbolton, 4 yrs, 9st 71b (A. Sadler) 3
The following also ran: —Fright, Lizard, and Lion
King. _ -

Betting - 2 to 1 ou Black Prince, 3 to 1 agst Douro,
6 to 1 agst Lizard, and 10 to 1 any other. Won by a
neck.

The Hampshire Cup, added to a Sweepstakes of 5 sous
each. Queen's Plate Course (about two miles).
Duke of Hamilton's Gamecock, by Newminster—Grey
en, aged j,
01ns's Zeloo,e
2:t (in
(Culonel Knox) 2
Mr. J.Hopkins's Mayflower, 4 yrs, list 31b (Owner) 3
Robin Adair and Balhain also ran.
Iv. E.7lb extra).,,,,.,age, (Mr. Cmwshaw) 1
(inc 71b extra)

Betting-6 to 5 agst Ze100,.7 to 4 agst Gamecock, and 6
to 1 agst Robin Adair. Won in a canter by four lengths.
The Winchester Foal Stalcos of 30 sous each, h ft. T.Y.C.
Mr. Dixon's Purveyor, by Caterer—Cygnet, Bst 10Ib _

(S. Adams) 1
Mr. J. Johnston's Ulan, Bst 101 b ..................... (Marsh) 2
Lord Westmorland's Herennianus, Bst 101b...(J. Uoater) 3
Betting-2 to lon Purveyor, sto 2 agst &Terminus,
and 100 to 7 agst Ulan. Won by half a length.

RACING FIXTI
JIJ

Southampton 25
AT GI
Ripon
Brighton ...........
Brighton Cluu
Lewes
Egham
Wolverhampton
Stockton
Oxford l5
Hastings
York August
SEPT]
Margate
Warwick 5pring........ 8
Abingdon 5
Leicester
Doncaster
Brecon l6

RES FOR 1867.

G)odwood
ST.

Dover
West Drayton 22
Plymouth...., 22
Lichfield
Canterbury .. 27
Derby
Yarmouth 27
Weytnouth
Tunbridge
Baden Baden
IMBER.

OCT
Northampton Autumn 1
Edinburgh
Bedford

Richm-ond l7
}Tendon l9
Monmouth
Manchester Autumn 2O
Newmarket Ist October 24

Newmarket 2d October 7
Cheltenham l5
Newmarket lioughtou
dBE

NOVI
Liverpool Autumn 5
PhrowtabuiY Autumn,„ 11

Leazu-ingtp4 gi4l4 ~,.. 19

ARCHBISHOP MANNING AND THE
ECCLESIAS7IO,II, 11TLES ACT.

The select comtnittee of the House of Commons
appinted to inquire into the meri-s of the bill in-
tro luczd by Mr. M•Evny for the repeal of the
Ecclesiastical Titles Act resumed their sittings on
Tuesday. _ _

Dr. ilanning, Ro•nan Catholic Archbishop, was
the first witness examined.

The Chairman (11r. M•Evoy)—You are Arch-
bishop of Westminster
Will you be good enough to state the nature of
the evidence you are prepared to give in reference
to the Ecclesiastical Titles Act ?
Dr. Manning said be was prepared to show that
the creation of a hierarchy was a purely spiritual
act without involving the assumption of territorial
jurisdiction; that territorial titles were not a:
variance with the royal supremacy under the exist-
ing state of the laws ; that the Ecclesiastical Titles
Act went beyond its purpose, and was highly penal;
that it placed the Roman Catholic Church in this
country in a worse position than it had heretofore
been in ; that the Government had been compelled
to disregard the enactment, and that the change
from vicars apostolic to ordinary bishops was neces-
sary for the government of the Church. Ho was
further prepared to show that the act was a griev-
ance in many instances, and that it was inexpedient
in its public action, and inconsistent with our rela-
tions with Roman Catholic countries.
The Chairman asked whether a territorial title
involved the assumption of 4ny territorial power or
jurisdiction.
Dr. Manning—Certainly not. The creation of
the hierarchy was an act purely spiritual in its
source and effects. It only created sees and dioceses
and a spiritual jurisdiction. The spiritual power
existed throughout the whole Roman empire before
the civil, and when they co-existed they did not
come into contact. In 601 Pope Gregory directed
the foundation of the two dioceses of Canterbury
and York. That act and the act creating a hierar-
chy in 1850 were purely spiritual acts. The late
Cardinal Wiseman wrote to Lord John Russell dis-
claiming any temporal power. _ _

The Chairman asked whether the creation of a
hierarchy was at variance with the royal supremacy.
Dr. Manning said it was not. In the sense of
some of the provisions of the acts of Elizabeth it
was, but in the sense of the toleration which had
been extended by subsequent acts to the Catholic
Church it was not. (Dr. Manning here referred to
the acts to which be alluded, and to certain autho-
rities.)
Mr. Walpole—Those authorities mean that the
King could not create the office of a bishop himself,
but that the King required homage to be done in
respect of temporalities?—Quito so.
Then according to the old laws the Pope could
not create a hierarchy or appoint a bishop without
the consent of the Crown ?

Dr. Manning—The concurrent action of the two
powers was necessary.

Mr. Walpole—Then we are agreed upon this, that
in what are called Roman Catholic times the Pope
could not of him self appoint a bishop in this coun-
try without the consent of the Crown?
Dr. Manning— He could not under the then ex-
isting laws.
We are agreed upon that point ?—Perfectly.

In reply to the Chairman, Dr. Manning continued
to say that under statutes of Elizabeth the intro-
duction of any bill, brief, or letters apostolic into
this country was prohibited, and it was also made
penal to act on them. The royal supremacy in
matters spiritual and ecclesiastical was afterwards
altered. The people of Ireland had never received
that supremacy, and one-half of the people of this
country withdrew from it when they became dis-
s.mters and nonconformists. In matters temporal
and civil all were subject to the royal supremacy,
but in matters spiritual and ecclesiastical Roman
Catholics were no more subject than other dissenters
or nonconformists to the royal supremacy. By an
act passed in the reign of William and Mary, Pro-
testant dissenters were relieved from taking the oaths
referring to the supremacy of the Crown in spiritual
matters, and by subsequent acts Roman Catholics
were similarly relieved. The whole Scotch Kirk
was founded on what they called the headship of
Christ, and the kirk was quite as independent of the
spiritual power of the Crown as Catholics arc.
To further questions,
Dr. Manning stated that Roman Catholic sees
were created in Canada and Australia without any
interference with the civil power, and that the same
observation applied to British India, where there
were twenty Roman Catholic bishops.
The Chairman—You say that the Ecclesiastical
Titles Act is a highly penal measure ?
Dr. Manning—lt is. Proffssing to annual terri-
torial titles, it does a great deal more. It renders
the act of consecrating a bishop a penal act, so far
as all who are parties to it are concerned. Great
uncertainty is also introduced by it as to the validity
of many legal documents.

Mr. Bruce— Are you able to state any practical
evil aribing from it ?

Dr. Manning—ln signing documents great care
has to be taken, for legal questions might arise as
to their validity.
The Chairman—ls not the act a dead letter?

Dr. Manning—The Privy Council, with respect
to schools, have recognised the Roman Catholic
bishops. The act to all intents and purposes is a
dead letter.

To the Chairman—The act is a grievance which
no member of the committee who _may have had a
part in the passing of it could have intended. It
was meant, no doubt, chiefly to relate to territorial
jurisdiction, not to spiritual things; but either way
the act is a grievance. A statement made in the
House of Commons and the House of Lords was
founded upon one of mine. I said, and I repeat,
that I feel it to be a grievance to be compelled by a
superior obligation to resort to evasion and to violate
a statute. I think I ought not, as an Englishman,
to be placed in this position. I hold no other office ;
I cannot describe mysel otherwise than as Arch-
bishop of Westminster, and I cannot fulfil a spiritual
act of duty without coming into contact with the
laws. Ido not think it honourable, Christian, or
English, to be compelled to do a thing in the dark
which I would not do openly. I cannot have two
modes of describing myself. A superior obligation
compels me to do every day a number of acts at
variance with the statute, but which I think it never
was intended to prohibit. It is a public stigma—
dormant perhaps in times of peace, but active in
times of excitement. The sword ought not to be
hung over our heads. It is further inexpedient
that when we exhort our flocks to submit to the law
of the land, they should say, as many of them had
said, "You do not obey it yourself."
The Attorney-General for Ireland asked whether
it would remove the grievance, and satisfy.
heir bishops the heads
of the Roman Catholic Church, if t
Roman Catholic
were known, for instance, as
" "Roman Catholic
Archbishop
Bishop of Kerry, or
of Dublin."
Dr. Maiming replied that they wtouilndintsowt
iosbajoencit,
to any modification which Parliamen ,
re the titles they would
might make, and he
legalise would be rwesasp:cutful and proper. Bat
1
change sugges.ec would be satisfactory
whether the
was a question he could
not answer. There was
this objection to it, that it would imply an admission
that as there was a " Roman Catholic bishop," or
archbishop," there was another bishop or arch-
bishop of the same diocese, and they held that no
consecration was lawful except by or from their own
spiritual authority. So far as description in legal
documents was concernefl. there could be no objec-
tion to the change suggested.
Mr. Fortescue—You would r-ot object to be so
described, but yoll wptlicl object so ;.0 describe, your-

self ?
Dr. ilaannbag said before replyip4 bdeei4iYelY he
- c