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answer, which was admirably reasoned, and had strength in
every word. The Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) said in
that answer that he did not know that the Pope had any
authority to constitute bishops and archbishops in this
country. He bad not given his consent to such appoint-
ments, and would not give it. But with regard to the
spiritual power of the Pope, whatever control was to be ob-
tained over the spiritual authority of the Pope could only be
obtained by an agreement to that end. They must give
advantages to the Pope, and have advantages in return,
and among them they must stipulate that the Pope
should not appoint to dioceses in this country without the
consent of the Queen, or they must say that they would
not have anything to do with the matter. For his own part,
the Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) went on to say, that he
thought they ought not to have any arrangement to recog-
nise the appointments of the Pope. Now, from this lan-
guage, he (Lord Aberdeen) inferred, and he thought cor-
rectly, that there having been no agreement with the Pope,
he did not require the consent of the Crown in the late
appointments.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord then referred
to the announcement made in the Roman Gazette, in Janu-
ary, 1848, to the effect that Dr. Wiseman had been appointed
Archbishop of Westminster. Stich an incident could not
escape observation. The Noble Lord (Lord Minto, as we un-
derstood) could not have overlooked so important a fact, and
it was matter of moment that the announcement was made
officially in the Gazette of Rome. As to the Bill before them,
he would ask how was it to affect their fellow-countrymen
in Ireland?—(Hear, hear.) Their Lordships were aware
that the rescript of the 29th Sept., 1850, only related to the
appointment of bishops in England, and therefore their in-
terference in Ireland had been thought to be uncalled for;
and it was urged that if they were determined to legislate
ogainst what was called an aggression, that legislation should
be confined to England. But he must agree so far with Go-
vernment, that if the Act was to be passed at all, it must in-
clude Ireland— ( Hear) —for to say that the Queen held a
different position in England to what she did in Ireland,
would be to sign the destruction of the Church in Ireland.—
(Hear, hear.) A measure, however, which must be so in-
adequate, must produce mischievous consequences in Ireland.
If they passed the present Act, unless it became a dead letter
in the statute-book, thy would never see peace in Ireland.—
(Hear, hear.) He would now say a few words as regarded
the penalties imposed by the Act, and he could not help
saying, that if they attempted to impose the penalties in
Ireland, they might apprehend that serious consequences
would be the result. They might have a' refractory priest,
for instance, turning an informer against the bishop who en-
forced the ecclesiastical discipline binding upon his clergy,
and in a hundred other ways it would lead to end-
less mischief and complaints on the part of those who might
be subjected to those penalties, while, on the other side, there
would be complaints if the law was not carried: into effect,
and we should have a renewal of that discord, animosity, and
rancour from which we had been free for the last twenty
years, and which it was sickening to think ,we should ever
have again in this country.—(Hear.) He would not detain
their Lordships longer, and was aware that he should not
have their concurrence in the sentiments he had expressed,
or the motion with which he would conclude. He could
not help expressing his deep regret at the absence of two
Noble Lords, and at the cause of that absence—(Hear)
—two Noble Lords both of them the long tried advocates
of civil and religious liberty, but who were prevented from
being present by the state of their health. He felt how ina-
dequate he was to express the sentiments which he held in
common with them with regard to the measure of her Ma-
jesty's Ministers, and only wished that their Lordships could
have been persuaded by the mild wisdom of the one, and
the fervid eloquence of the other.—(Hear.) The Noble Earl
concluded by moving that the Bill be read a second time thai
day three months.

Lord BEAUMONT said he was placed in a situation of
pceuliar difficulty in attempting to convey to the minds of
others the impressions which these acts of the Pope had
made on his own mind. His difficulties had, however, been
partially relieved by the speech of the Noble Earl, inasmuch
as many of the points relied upon by the; Noble Earl as dif-
ficulties in the case would be found to be completely
visionary. Another reason urged by the Noble Earl, which
had contributed to relieve his mind, was that the indulgence
shown to the Roman Catholics in this country in former
years, was some excuse for the Court of Rome taking the
course it had done. He thought, on the contrary, that in-
stead of an excuse it was an aggravation—(Hear, hear)—
and that the indulgence previously extended to Roman
Catholics would be an inducement to the Court of Rome to
abstain from everything offensive, either to the feelings of
the people or the dignity of the Crown.—(Hear, hear.) He
would allude to these points more fully, but before doing so
he had to express the pain with which he felt compelled to
take the cousre he did on this question. He stood alone
and isolated from the members of his own community, for,
although he knew there were many who felt and sympa-
thised with him, but who did not come forward openly to
express that agreement and sympathy, he was, however,
prepared to take all the consequences of his position. He
was aware that there were distinctions drawn between the
civil and religious powers, and that it was said in the recent
acts of the Pope that he had not trenched upon the former.
He was prepared to meet all these objections, however often
they might be repeated ; and he solemnly declared that he
believed he was right in principle, that he was right as a
loyal subject, that he was right as a Christian, and right he be-
lieved before his God, in the course he took on this question.
In doing so, he laid down the same principle as he believed
was laid down by the Noble Marquis below him. He said he
would do nothing by this Act which would infringe in the
slightest degree one iota on the civil and religious liberty of any
individual whatever, which would interfere in the slightest
degree with the freedom of any religious body, or which
should in the slightest way trench on the spiritual character
of the Roman Catholic Church, or the spiritual necessities
of the Roman Catholic clergy.—(Hear, hear.) He would
look in the first place at the position in which Roman
Catholics were placed before the necessity arose for pass-
ing this Bill ; and, in the next place, to the position in
which the Roman Catholic Church and Roman Catholic
priests would be placed by farther legislation. Previous
to the passing of the Catholic Emancipation Act, the ex-
ercise of the Roman Catholic religion was limited in
this country as far as individuals were concerned, but
since the passing of that law no interference whatever
had been allowed with any religious act. The Roman
Catholic in this country enjoyed the freedom which he
wished here still to enjoy, but which he certainly did not
enjoy even in some Roman Catholic countries, of wore
shipping where he pleased and when he pleased.—( Hear,
hear.) He was in every way a free agent, and he (Lord
Beaumont) wished that a free agent he should remain.—
(Hear, hear.) What was the position of the Roman Catholic
Church in this country? With certain exceptions, it might
almost be called, not a tolerated, but a sanctioned Church,
There was not one rite that a religious; community could
desire which was not enjoyed. The Church services were
full, and administered by duly ordained priests, deacons, and
bishops. They could have even bishops and archbishops or-
dained by the Pope of Rome. Every freedom was given to
the Church to communicate with Rome with respect to
church administration and church affairs. In short, the
'members of the Roman Catholic Church did all they wanted
without let or hindrance. It had a perfect hierarchy, and
might have had if it chose, what he feared it never would
get from Rome, a regular domestic hierarchy. (Hear,
hear.) He wished to take away none of these powers. He
would leave to that Church every privilege it had, and he
would be glad to get in addition that regular domestic
hierarchy to which he attached so much importance. But
he would ask, could any religious body be placed in a more
favourable position which was not an established and domi-
nantHe was prepared to give them
Church ?—(Hear, hear.)
all the liberty they could desire, except the liberty of de-
priving others of their liberty--( Hear, hear)—or the liberty
of attempting to deprive the country of its rights, the
Crown of its prerogatives.—(Hear, hear.) As individual
liberty was limited by the condition that we were not to in-
fringe on the liberty of others, in the same way the liberty
of a church was founded by the condition that it should
not destroy the liberty of other Churches, and the liberty of
this country must be dependent upon its complete inde-
pendence and freedom from foreign power. There must
be no power within this realm to coerce or interfere
with the free actions of the people other than their own
legislation and their own institutions. (Cheers.). This
led him to the definition of spiritual and temporal, because
it was on that ground that the whole question settled.
Ho wished to know whet change there was in the spiri-
tual character between the position of the bishops formerly
and as they would be under this measure? He knew
that language had been held on this subject which he
could only call bombastic language, and which raised ex-
pectations that could not be fulfilled, about this country
revolving like a planet round the sun of Rome. Turning
from such language as this, he would go to another decla-
ration of Dr. Wiseman, as to the effect of the late bull on
the spiritual character and position of the Roman Catholic
bishops and clergy in this country; and whea he referred to
Dr. Wiseman, however he might differ from the policy of
some of his acts, he referred to him as a gentleman and a
scholar.—(Hear, hear.) Now, Dr. Wiseman said that, by
the new arrangement the bishop would not be one item
more a bishop than he was before—that not one of them
had their spiritual jurisdiction extended—that there was
not the smallest additional clerical jurisdiction, or new
powers given over the Roman Catholics in England—that
in all these the bishops were where they were, what they
were, and what they would continue to be. There was no
difference.—(Hear, hear.) These were the words of Dr.
Wiseman, and taking that evidence alone, it was conclu-
sive that no new powers had been added to the Roman
Catholic Church in a spiritual sense, because the bishops,
in a spiritual sense, were where they were and what they
were. It was not necessary for spiritual purposes, that they
should have had territorial titles conferred upon them.
If the object had simply been to confer a spiritual jurisdic-
tion on them, they might as well have been called Bishop of
Melipotamus as Birmingham ; the name did not make the
slightest difference as far as their jurisdiction over Roman
Catholics was concerned.—(Hear, hear ) But what was the
effect with regard to the temporal question? There could be
no doubt that in ordinary cases an appointment to a territo-
rial diocese included the temporalities of that diocese. In
this case there were no temporalities attached to the sees
created by the Pope.—(Hear, hear.) But the creation of a
territorial see was, in all cases, even in Roman Catholic
countries, the act of the temporal power, and not of the Pope.
Wherever the Pope had attempted it it had been resisted,
even by force of arms, and in a recent case even the Ring
of Naples, one of the most dutiful children of the Pope,
had misted the creation of a diocese, in that way.—
(Heaf, hear.) It was clear then, that the creation of
a diocese teas a temporal act; and if the creation of a
diocese was a temporal act, the appointment of a bishop
was still more strongly so. He wished to keep the temporal
and the spiritual power separate, and to prevent the inter-
ference of the Pope with the laws of this country. He did
not agree in the doctrine, that the only limit to the spiritual
power of the Pope was his own will.—(Hear.) He pro-
tested against that doctrine as a Roman Catholic he pro-
tested against it as leading to usurpation and tyranny, as a
doctrine which might convert Europe into a jumble, in which
the 2 continent might be ruled by a monarch who, although
he wore three crowns, was at this moment a puppet in the
hands of other powers.—(Cheers.) He held in his hands the
declaration of English peers, who, unlike their ancestors in
the time of Edward 111., instead of asserting the indepen-
dence of this realm, and protesting against sabmission to
Rome—instead of asserting their rights as Englishmen and
as Catholics—instead of standing bravely up and resisting
the introduction of the tyranny of Rome in spiritual and
temporal matters, into this country, he found these peers
asserting that the authority of the Pope, as the successor
of St. Peter —(A laugh)—could only be limited by his
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attempts at excommunication had been
excommunications done by the Pope as
spiritual acts.' The bulls by which these
were fulminated were spiritualacts. The bull In Coena Do-
mini, annually published, was a spiritual act. All these
things, all these interferences, and other consequences which
modern civilization shrunk from, and which no man would
attempt to countenance without running the risk of bringing
to the ground all constitutional principles and institutions,
were, and are professed to be, spiritual acts. 'What could
they say of the doctrine and the policy which led to the issu-
ing of a public document, in which the very existence of the
Sovereign of this country was ignored, while affecting to
portion out the realm into dioceses—(Hear)—and the words
of which, if taken in their plain and natural sense, heaped
insult upon insult on the dignity of the Crows And the exist-

. institutions of this country?—(Hear.) A dotument which,
taken in its plain sense, was an overt act, totally cppesed to
the laws of this country—nay, to the laws of every country
in Europe.—( Hear, hear.) He could not agree, therefore,
with the Noble Earl in thinking this was merely a spiri-
tual act. On the contrary, he believed was an intrae•
Lion of the spirit, if not the letter—and he believed it
was of the letter as well as the spirit of the law of
nations—and it was on this ground that ho justified the
course he took with reference to the Bill. Having arrived
at this point, he should like to consider what the effect of
the measure would be on three parties naniely, its effect
upon the Catholics, upon the Government, and upon the
country. On this subject he had received an immense
number of letters from Roman Catholic clergymen in Eng-
land, some of them of the most distinguished ability and
the sincerest piety. In one of these it was stated that the
general feeling among the English Roman Catholic clergy
was against being any longer under the Propaganda, even
spiritually, because it was a secret, arbitrary, irresponsible,
despotic tribunal, and was not tolerated in any Catholic
state having a real hierarchy. The explanation given to
this bull was that it took away instead of increasing the
Power of the Pope, and that he abandoned a portion of that in-
fluence and power he formerly exercised over the vicars-apos-
tolic, giving to them a power which they did uot before pos-
sess. It was pretended that he did away with the power of the
Propaganda, and released the English Roman Catholics from
its influence, and that he did not intend arbitrarily to ap-
point bishops against the wishes of that body, and overbearing
their election. Now the Irish hierarchy had all the cha-
racter and qualities, until lately, of a legal hierarchy; they
elected their own bishops, and possessed a
proper and fair
exercise of their rights; but that character of freedom and
independence, which not only snade the Irish a real hierar-
chy, but made them a national hierarchy, had lately been
interfered with by the arbitrary act oe the Pope, in sending
out, against their advice and wish, Dr. Cullen and others as
prelates. In the letter apostolic, the Pope, or rather, the
Court of Rome—because he believed the Pope had little per-
sonal influence—had taken care that the string connecting
the English Catholics with Rome should be drawn tighter
than ever it was; and, instead of giving independence to the
hierarchy here, they were going to do that which they had
already done in Ireland, by reserving (and he understood
they had even done so already) the power of nominating to
all vacant dioceses—(Hear, hear.) He had seen a do-
cument in the Italian newspapers, which he believed to
be authentic, purporting that the Pope declared it to be
his wish that in England the Roman Catholic rites and
ceremonies should be carried on snore in accordance I
with the practice at Rome; and he also understood
that the Pope had lately issued a document in which he .
makes preparation not only to alter all that may have been
corrupted by acquaintance and contact with a mare liberal
state of things, but to send over Italians to bring back the
Romans Catholics in England to conformity with the in ac-
tices of Rome, and place them more entirely under the Pro-
paganda.—(Hear, hear.) He further understood, that one of
the new dioceses had been filled up lately ir' that manner,
without any consultation with the Catholic body in this
country. There was nothing in the I!.ws of this country to
compel a Roman Catholic to obediance to his clergy, and it
he does do so it was perfectly voluntary on his part,
nor did he consider Parliament would be justified in inter-
fering. But that being so, what would be the effect of this
bull on a Roman Catholic? He must either reject it abso-
lutely and entirely, bowing down in humble obedience to the
Church of Rome, or by taking it route qui route break with
Rome. Now, what was the declaration recently made b
certain Roman Catholics in England? That as Catholics they
y
were bound by the principles cei their religion to maintain the
spiritual supremacy of the rope, and to submit in obedience
without reasoning on the matter, either one way or another.
Take either alternative. What would be the case if they
looked on this act of the Pope of Rome in the same light
as the laws of this country did? It would come to this—
that as the Pope had merely given a name, and not autho-
rity, he had merely made Dr. Wiseman Archbishop of the
Roman Catholics residing in Westminster, which he had
before done, and that he had net created any archdiocese
of Westminster. They must come to the conclusion that
the Pope by this authority had not created either the see or
the diocese, because, according to law, he could not do so,
and that, in fact, he bad merely—if the word were not too
strong, and did not savour of disrespect —" nicknamed" a
certain number of persons. There was nothing in the law
to prevent the Pope from giving nicknames ; they could not
pass a law saying it should be an offence for the Pope to
call any person by whatever name he chose to give him ;
it was a thing to which legislation could not apply, for he
was not in their jurisdiction, and no act of theirs could
affect him. As far as this was an act against names,
he considered it rather a weak way of legislation
and, to a certain degree, useless ; for if after that
Bill was passed, any private individuel chose to call any
priest or prelate by the name of bishop or curate, they
could not interfere with him for so doing. If he thought
that was merely a Bill of a nature attacking names. he
would not vote for it, e but he did not look on it as a Bill
of that character, but of a very different character. If the
Roman Catholics hadj taken the view that they must
look on that question in the light of the law of the land,
they must consider the whole proceedings of the Pope in
this matter null and void; but if they did not, to what
were they exposed? If they imagined that all that had
been announced—the naming of the new Archbishop of
Westminster, and his investiture with the ring and other
badges of authority, was a mere parade, when they mistook
entirely the words of the letter apostolic. The Noble Earl
(Aberdeen) said that letter was a mere form, but it was
nothing of gm sort, and was never intended to be con-
sidered as such. Was it of no effect, when it annulled and
destroyed the ancient archbishoprics of York and Canter-
bury, and the ancient bishoprics of Chester and Durham,
rendering them void, and in the face of these titles and
jurisdiction, has created, with full power and jurisdiction,
the archbishopric of Westminster, and twelve bishops be-
sides? The Pope said, that in the full plenitude of his
power, he did away with all privileges whatsoever of the
ancient sees, and ordered that the apostolic letter, enacting
these things, should always be valid and firm, and hold
good, notwithstanding the rights of all former sees in Eng-
land, and notwithstanding all things to the contrary what-
soever. What was that but declaring positively that all
acts done by Parliament, or by the Queen, contrary to the
apostolic letter, must be considered null and void, and not
binding on the consciences of all Roman Catholics? It an-
nihilated the Right Rev. Bench on his left hand, and esta-
blished another. Was it not actually telling the people of
this country to rise in rebellion? Was it the act of a
friendly sovereign? If another friendly sovereign made such
an appeal in this country, would it be considered as
in accordance with the principles of international law?
If they were to send to Rome bishops and archbishops, and
appoint a Bishop of Rome with instructions to distribute
Bibles, and declaring null and void all things done contrary,
and if we were to call on the people of the country to receive
such persons and accept their authority instead of that of
the prelates appointed by the lawful Sovereign, would not
that be urging to rebellion?—(Hear, hear.) He took that
apostolic letter in the extremeet sense, and he believed that
in that sense most Roman Catholics did consider it binding
on their consciences to obey. In what an unfortunate di-
lemma had the advisers of the Court of Rome placed the
unfortunate Roman Catholics in this country, who must
either commit a breach with Rome, or by submitting to
Rome, violate all those principles of loyalty—not to say to
the Queen, but to the constitution—leaving out of view the
question of violating the laws of this country ?—(llear,
hear.) What was to become of their legislation unless they
stopped this at once?—(gear, hear.) He had already
called their attention to the existence of a general
reactionary movement on the continent of Europe, and
that there was a design for establishing the preponderance
of ultramontane doctrines. Unfortunately it was true that
the ultramontane party predominated on this side of the
Alps—not so much on the other—and as it happened that
where there was more zeal for the Church of Rome, there
was less division, it was unfortunately the case that those
who entertained different views were not an active body,
and the consequence was that the whole character of Roman
Catholicism was degraded to an ultramontane character.
The tendency of this bull was to give Roman Catholicism in
this country the same character.— (Hear, hear.) It was in
order that they might be prepared to receive some such doc-
trines as were breathed in the recent concordats with Spain
and Tuscany. It was a step to bring in that Roman
opinion to destroy and crush that liberal Catholicism which
had grown up in this country among the Roman Catholics
of England. —(Hear, hear.) It was to bring over to those
absurd ultramontane opinions of a few fanatic converts—
who brought more disgrace than honour to Roman Ca-
tholicism by their extreme ideas and absurd practices—thoseplain, honest, straightforward Catholics, who were contented
with what they had before, and were anxious to conform to
the free and liberal spirit of this country. It was to intro-
duce a system of interference with educational establish-
ments, and in the end destroy every liberal institution of an
educational character in England and Ireland, to destroy the
Queen's colleges, the greatest blessing ever bestowed on Ire-
land, to undermine the national-school system, and,
in a word, to build up a wall around the Ro-
man Catholics, and so keep from them every study and
science which they feared might injure that spirit
of absolutism which now existed in the govern-
ment of Rome, and introduce something in the na-
ture of an Index Expurgatorius, to shut out the very light
of science and history.—(Loud cheers.) They all knew
that but a short time ago the Court of Rome condemned
some of the sciences ; they looked on astronomy as Deism,
and on geology as materialism. They crushed and anni-
hilated anything like free judgment, freedom of justice, a
spirit of liberty, or a feeling of independence.—(Hear,
hear.) That was the movement now going on, and it was
because that was the character of that movement that
the absolute Governments of Europe and the friends of ab-
solutism had joined in the coalition for the support of the
Court of Rome, using it as an instrument to effect their own
purposes, although he believed that while using that in-
strument it would prove fatal in their hands and wound
themselves. It was for this that Austria had abandoned
the sensible laws of Joseph the Second; it was for this
that Tuscany had abandoned the wise laws of Leopold the
Second; and it was for this that the Governments of Aus-
tria and Tuscany had given up that which had made the
people of those countries comparatively happy and contented
with their condition, so far as concerned religious matters.
It was because he believed such to be the character of the
Court of Rome that he joined in this protest against this
invasion of the rights of conscience, and of civil and re-
ligious liberty, this check on the progress of science, this at-
tempt to throw society back, beyond even the mediaeval pe-
riod, into the darkness and obscurity of the dark ages. He
did not look on it as an isolated question whether a man
was to be called Archbishop of Westminster or anything else.
He looked on it as a movement of a great civil and religious
nature, which England was bound by every consideration to
oppose and resist.—(Loud cheers.) It was on those grounds
alone that he could give his assent to the Bill, the details of
which were not much to his taste. This was a little Bill,
which, as they all knew, would never take effect; and it
was not the mode, moreover, in which he would have dealt
with the subject. To be completely effectual, it ought t:
have touched the cause of all the mischief—it ought tat"thve
touched the Pope. He should have expected
thaer to
Government would have sent a right trusty Inelrtt
Rome, to protest against his act as a breach of fait
ag both
gres_
himself and this country. He protested against toe
sion on that ground, and on that ground only be supported
the Bill.
The Duke of WELLINGTON—My Lords, it was my for-
tune many years ago to prevail on you to accept the Roman
Catholic Relief Act, and I have fait it my duty on all Oce
casions, and under various circumstances, to object to any
proposed alterations of that measure. All its provisions
were well considered at the time. They were founded cn
the petitions presented
Parliament by the Roman Ca-
tholics, with the view of obtaining an Act of that kind. All
the endeavours which for thirty years had been made in
order to obtain what were called securities for the Church,
accompanying concessions to the Roman Catholics, were
taken into consideration, and after all the Catholic Relief
Bill was proposed to your Lordships, and carried through
both Houses of Parliament by the aid of very large maec-
rides. I shall always feel it my duty to maintain the prc-
visions of that measure ; and, I confess, I viewed with
alarm, and felt great concern at, the bull and other papers
which appeared in the course of last year— and under
which a hierarchy was appointed by the Pope, and other
proceedings adopted—because it was apparent to me that it
was absolutely impossible to pass over these Wimp without

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this country, and he discussed these modes. One of ' '
two
those modes was the
appointment of vicars-apostolic, and the
other the appointment of Cardinal Wiseman to the arch-
diocess of a district in which 0 •
the Queen's Palace and the
Houses of Parliament are located.-( Hear, hear.) The Pope
took the latter course, and relinquished the old mode of af-
fecting his object, which had been recognized and approved
by the Government of this country. Under these circum-
stances-the character of the Pope being such as I have de-
scribed - I confess I was anxious to know what could have
been the motive for the preference given to the new mode
of proceeding. The Noble Lord who addressed you just now.
with so much honour to himself, knowing the position.
of the Roman Catholics-knowing the state of opi-
nion at Rome-being sensible that a design isen-
tertained to stifle liberal opinions in this country, thought be
perceived the drift of the rescript in reading it. For my-
self, however, I confess I could not discover the drift
of the proceeding until I read the attack made by Cardinal
Wiseman on the Dean and Chapter. of Westminster.-
( Laug,hter, and cheers.) Then it cescurred to me what was
the object aimed at. It was the old object of antagonism,
and the course was taken by the advice of Cardinal Wiseman,
as he Wiseman published) A ht t e same time at whick
Cardinal the rescript which notified his
own promotion he made an attack, entirely undeserved, on
the Dean and Chapter of Westminster.-(Hear.) I then
could doubt no longer as to the object of Rome, and I saw
clearly that something like this Bill which I now hold in my
hand must be brought under the consideration of your Lord-
ships, or that I mast give my consent to certain alterations of
the terms of the Relief Act.-(Hear, hear.) I cannot concur
in the proposition of my Noble Friend that the Bill shall be
read a second time this day six months.-(Hew, hear.)
Circumstances have occurred which render it impossible for
you to return to the position in which you stood before this
act of the Pope was committed. The object of the passing
of the Relief Act was to repeal all the laws adopted against
the Roman Catholics first at the Reformation-next at the
time of whet was called the Popish Plot ; and, thirdly,
in consequence of the Popish reign of James 11., a
war of succession in Ireland, out of which, and in. copse-'rune, grew all the penal enactments against Catholics in
et country. It was, I say, the object of the Relief Act to
get rid of these altogether. But those who brought forward
that A et-those who urged your Lordships and the other
House to support it, repeatedly stated that nothing therein
touched the laws
on which the That was cauti •
ously avoided. When we-the authors and
promo'ers of the _Relief Act, were charged with having
I touched the Reformation, we distinctly proved the con-
trary, and showed that we had done nothing to ;affect
the laws by which the Reformation
was established in
this country. In 1846, however-in the reign of the pre-
sent Queen-certain old statutes were repealed, and at song
them one relating to the introduction of bulls into this
country. If that law bad not been repealed it would ; have
been impossible that the act of tbe Pope could have Liken
effect, and, consequently, all fresh legislation would have
been unnecessary. Cardinal Wiseman would not have. dared
to come to England and publish the Pope's bull or roscript,
establishing the new hierarchy.- (Cheers.) The thing was
impossible; it could not have happened. Under the cir-
cumstances, I say you cannot return to the position he which
you stood when the Roman Catholic Relief Act was passed,
or before the Act of 1846 passed, which repealed the, penal-
ties attaching to all the Acts with which it dealt, but left the
acts themselves standing as misdemeanours. The legisla-
tion on the subject stands in this state, that misdemeanours
may be committed, but cannot be punished.-(Herr. hear.)
Under these circumstances, I say you cannot stand on the
Relief Act, but must pass a measure to meet the particular
act of the Pope complained of, and to prevent the repetition
of such acts in future. I have no desire to infringe the re-
ligious privileges of the Roman Catholics • on the contrary,
I wish them to enjoy every means of following their re-
ligion with perfect freedom.-(Hear, hear.) I confess I
view without apprehension the effect which this measure
may have in Ireland.-(llear, hear.) We have had a good
deal of experience of the effect produced in Ireland by mea-
sures passed by the Legislature. There was the Relief Act.
A great deal was expected from that, and it was said that it
would put an end to agitation in Ireland for ever. But; in
the very year-nay, I believe, almost in the very month; in
which it became the law of the land. Irish agitation recc en-
menced. -(Cheers and laughter.) How often, since 0 gen,
has the Crown, from time to time, had occasion to complain
of agitation in Ireland? How often has the Crown come, to
Parliament to demand additional powers for the purpose of
putting down the agitation, or worse than agitation. axis Ling
in that country-the Relief Act notwithstanding ?-( Blear,
hear.) My advice to your Lordships is to do that which is
just and necessary-to maintain the power and prerogatives
of the Crown, and to protect the subjects of this country lend
no more; and you may rely on it you will have the support
and good wishes of the loyal people of Ireland as well as of
this country.-(Cheers.) Having the misfortune on ehis
occasion to differ from my Noble Friend the Noble Earl sales
addressed your Lordships second in the debate, I felt it am-
cessary to trouble you with these few words, to show on mint
grounds I intend to support the motion for the second r ead-
ing of this Bill.-(Loud cheers.)
The Earl of MALM.ESBURY said that he looked upon
this bull as an insult to her Majesty and an invasion of the
Constitution. That was the view taken by millions. It gave
the Roman Catholics a synodical action which they had not
before. He believed that as far as this Bill went it would
meet the insult and aggression. The Noble Earl (the Earl
of Aberdeen) did not believe that the honour of England
had been attacked. and that the grant of territorial titles
was not an insult to her Majesty ; but he differed with the
E
Noble Earl upon that point. ngland was free, and the
sovereign of a foreign state had granted territorial titles.
It was to prevent a repetition of this insult that this Bill
was intended. It could not be done in France or
Prussia.--(Hear, hear.) He spoke as to the manner
of these appointments. There was an utter absence, to
use a familiar expression, of even common civility. The
Noble Earl had said that instead of attacking our own
countrymen they should have attacked the man who com-
mitted the aggression. But would the Noble Earl, if at the
head of foreign affairs at the time, have sent a fleet to
Ancona against the Pope? Judging from his career of
peaceful policy, he doubted much whether he would ever
have consented to that step. Then what other course re-
' mained open to them to repel this aggression but internal
legislation? He hoped the Bill before their Lordships
would answer its purpose so far as the Queen's prerogative
was concerned. He would gladly support this Bill. He
regretted the absence of the Noble Earl (the Earl of Derby),
as he would have fully stated the course he recommended.
He wished that Parliament should proceed first by resolu-
tion and then by legislation. He thought with the Noble
Earl that before legislating there should have been an in-
quiry into that spiritual power which the Pope arrogated, to
see whether his assumption stood in the same position as
before. There were various points that might be investi-
gated. He would not trouble their Lordships further than
by intimating his intention to support the Bill.
Lord BERNERS said he felt there was a principle at issue
in the question before the House, a principle of religions
liberty, which this Bill would jeopardise. The Pope had
constituted a hierarchy of his own Church. Had that in-
fringed upon the rights of the Queen? He entirely agreed
that an insult had been committed, but it was
not against the Crown or the people, but the Church.
The Duke of ARGYLL said he should go into the subject
before them without one word of preface. After alluding
generally to the arguments used by the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government, he referred to what had been
said by the Noble Earl (Aberdeen) during the late Miuisterial
crisis. The Noble Earl distinctly said that he would not
form a Government in England on the footing of passing
over the act of the Pope in silence. Now, there was the
rescript of the Pope, and the pastoral letter of Cardinal d
Wiseman. The latter was as pompous and absurd a ocu.
ment, proceeding
from the pen of a foolish priest, as ever
was issue- the
d (A laugh )-and he conceived it beneath t
•
notice of any Individual in the country.-(Hear, hear.)
The protest of the Noble Earl was not against the letter of
Cardinal Wiseman, but against the rescript of the Pope.
Now the Noble Earl had that night told them that the lan-
guage used in • the rescript was only in the usual terms
which were applied on such occasions. Therefore the act
against which his Nollle Friend said he would protest was
the act of giving territorial titles and sees in England.
His Noble Friend could not but admit by his dis-
claimer that the act was one which deserved some pro-
test by the people of England. - (Cries of " Hear, hear.")
The whole question was with regard to the titles.
The Noble Earl argued that if they tolerated the Catholic
Church they must tolerate it in its full development; but in
Catholic countries the Governments did prevent its fall de-
velopement. It had been argued that in these countries the
Governments possessed no right but which was founded on
agreement or endowment. He (the Duke of Argyll) as-
serted as a matter of historical fact, that the restrictions put
on the Catholic Church in the countries alluded to was, be-
cause it was thought that the full development of the Church
would expose the state to dangers.-(Hear.) The Noble
Duke then called the attention of their Lordships to a speech
of Mr. Canning in a debate upon the Catholic claims, in
which that eminent statesman said that the penal code vas
not intended to repress the Catholics as a sect, but to punish
te
l
them as traitors. So far as the penalties went, he thought
Bill should be extended to the Episcopal Church in Scotland.
but he protested most solemnly against the doctrine that
they were bound to treat dissenting Protestant bodies as they
treated the hiearchy of the Church of Rome. They could
not compare the dissenting bodies with the vast organized
periods
hierarchy of the Church of Rome, which at variousw p them- •
had compelled several countries of Europe )
ar They were,
selves in a state of self-defence.-( hear, be-ti.ja the mouths
besides, to remember, that excommunication different thing
of Presbyterians and Protestants was
_n
_e. On that sub-
from what it was in the Church of 16°L"
of their Lordships to
ject he begged to call the attention of
h a man wished to read
a case that occurred in Ireland,
weof his manifesting that
the Douay Bible. In consequence
0 Bible Society, in the north
desire, he was taken up by the Douay translation he was
of Ireland, although it wit:neer he was called upon by the
reading. One Sunday, however, e
and on the man refusing to do
priest to give up the practice,
against him, which was of a
d a curse
so the priest uttered
most frightful character to hear. One of
,the men kept a
one would bring
mill, and the consequence was that no
would work •
no one
grain to it, anec,lwate
very properly advised to bring an action. in conseqhueenperient.
He begged Noble Lords to mark, that
pa,gelmo against was one of the' great powers exer-
-7-imey the Roman Catholic Church ; but he rejoiced to
1 find that a judge and jury had in this case taken a
1 ifferent view from the lawyers, and said, though
they tolerated the Roman Catholic Church, they did
net allow it to ruin men, and they fined the priest
70e--(Cheers from the cross benches.) The Noble Earl es-
pecially adverted to the effect this Bill would have upon Ire-
land. es-
pecially
territorial titles were prohibited by the Catholic
Relief Bill, with the exception of one then in existence, and
one since created ; so that in truth the present Act merely
extended and applied the principle and enactments of the
Roman Catholic Relief Act to these two additional bishops
in Ireland.-(Hear, hear.) Surely, it we had a right to pro-
hibit the old territorial titles which existed in Ireland pre-
vious to the passing of the Catholic Relief Bill, we had a.
Much stronger right to prohibit the use of the new territorial
titles.-(Hear.) But besides the Relief Act, the Noble
Earl referred to the Charitable Bequests Act. Now he did
not understand how either the Noble Earl or any one
connected with the Government of the late Sir Robert Peel
could refer to that Act as an argument against the present
measure. In that Act, as at first introduced, the then Se-
cretary for the Home Department carefully avoided the use
of the titles of Roman Catholic bishops, and called them
merely " persons in holy orders." A strong objection was
taken to that course by the relative of a Noble Duke whom
he did not now see in his place. It was said that the fact
that the Roman Catholics had bishops ought
to be recog-
nised; and then Sir James Graham, as a great favour and
out of courtesy to the Roman Catholics, intimated that he
the Roman Catholic
was willing to insert the names of
archbishops and bishops, though carefully
guarding himself
against giving them territorial titles. The language of Sir
James was most .
explicit, and at the same time most
guarded. He said.
objection to admit he had no Roman
Catholic archbishops and bishops, but, for the maintenance of
be described territorial
not to by sound principles, they ought

THE SUN, LONDON 1 TIT E S DAB' EVENING 9 JULY 22) 1851.
titles.-(Hear, hear.) He said, therefore, that no member
AL L INTE RESTED The subject was then allowed to drop, and the House part of a grt at democratic population. The multi ': ThE SIIA.k.-.;,E MAItIiET iti OIN .i:: and I
In the HIGHLANDS and its PEOPLE, resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means. ; tude hating recently had their e'eeesion 6irected to
of that that Government had a right to refer to that measure as
All Visiting The Merchant Seamen's Fund Bill was read a third ! rtRITIEM ILII.XXAVIVITS.
one which in the least degree prevented their Lordships from
Its MOUNTAINS and TRADITION-HALLOWED SCENERY, time and pa Bed. the terms of the Emia's surrender to General LAMO- I
dealing fully and freely with the whole question ; and he All who enjoy
The House adjourned at a quarter to Two o'clock. RICIERE, by the petition presented to the Prince Business done mated at 5,000 bales,
said further that those who urged the admission of the names DEER-STALKING, GROUSE-SHOOTING, SALMON-FISHING, Railways. Paid. Nombaal Prices, to-day.
of bishops and archbishops into the Charitable Bequests Act,
a TROUT-TROLLING, ____-,...a.-- Louis NAPOLEON, and by the generous exertions of I wero taken for exp
and all the other Sports of the :North, There is at length some prospect that the debates - --a
as an argument against the measure, were guilty of
wghreomt
the Marquis of LONDONDERRY, hsve recognised more American, 400 Perm
should visit Aberdeen.. .. .. •• all iN to 9% 3% %
ingratitude to the Government and the country by
DONALD aI`DOUGALL'S on the Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill will be
clearly than ever the crueLy of the conduct pursued Ambergate, Nottingham, and 200 Egyptian, a
they had been so treated. He could not avoid noticing the
ROYAL TARTAN WAREHOUSE, INVERNESS, Boston, &E. Junction 8% 4% -4%
4%
%34 closed heavily, but s
inconsistent nature of the argument used by the opponents
Manufacturer to . brought to a conclusion, and that the session will not towards the descendant of the " Prophet" by France, Belfast and County Down 37% •• -••
The QUEEN and ROYAL FAMILY.
~ pass over without the entry on the pages of our statute- Birming., Wolverhamp., -Railway Shares wi
of this measure. On the one hand they saig . the
and the utter want of principle displayed throughout and Stoat' Valley • • au lox - 10%
Roman Catholic Church was so purely spiritual fl.
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these transactions by her administrators. Reverting
and voluntary in its organization, and operation, that the
t or interfere HIGH WATER Al LONDON BRIDGFe
Tins DaY -Morning 37 min, after 7 I Evening book of this solemn protest against the arrogant
Jane., late 33/. 6s. 841.. 26 13 -• It dig. Tea rules dull.
Bill would not in the slightest degree time
to the records of that momentous period which inane- Do. Chest. & Birkenhd., ,
with the jurisdiction of the bishops; while onotherband,
the
l,
To-Moaaow-Morning 39 lain. after 8 I Evening 11 min after 9 .
5 min after 8 assumption of a foreign Prince to exercise territorial
50/. &251. Consolidated all .. -.. Port Phillip accot
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it was said that we had already given it so much power that
want of labour. Ma
we ought not to stop short, but give it more. could not
THE WEATHER.-SuN OFIncE, JULY 21. realms. The second reading of the Bill was moved
cover, indeed, amongst them particulars of a chit- Bristol and Exeter.. • - 100 78 -80 79 78% receiving 351. to 381.
reconcile these two arguments. But it did appear to him
THERMONETER, xer THE SHADE. last night, in the House of Lords, by the Marquis of Caledonian •• •• - 50 9- 9% 9% % with rations , 221. tt
that the Roman Catholic clergy and priesthood thought. we ranter so despicable in their evidences of diehonour as Chester and Holyhead .. all 11% - 16% 15%
71-highest since noon yesterday. LaresDowele, and, although the debate was adjourned,
to reflsct indelible disgrace upon the regime of LOUIS Direct Loud. and Fortson. 5% .. -.. with rations; blacksr
had done enough to tie up our
.hands, seal up our lips, and
Dublin and Belfast Junct. 45 22 -20 Cs.
anything against their interference 50-lowest this morning and during the night. per annum. Fe mall
prevent us from doing yet as the POPE has not in the House of Lords
Patience. We are reminded by them that when the Dublin and Kingstown.. all .. -.. cooks, 1 61. to 204 ;
with our laws and institutions, and he begged their Lord• 69-this day, at noon.
a " Brass band," " making night hideous" by Dundalk and Enniskillen au -..
ships to mark the circumstances under which. these. changes BAROMETER, 30-1. Raliuns had been bribsd into treason against their Dundee, Perth, and Aber- thorough servants, I
We had now a large and increasing ultra- their discordant yells, there will be no fan. deep Junction .. .. all .. -... At the annual rat
were advocated.WUfl3 S.E.-light breeze and fine sunshiny weather. favourite, when ABD-ER-lIAMAN, the Emperor of Do., New .. .. .. ad ..
•_ ..
montane party, which made. a great difference.. between the
and the period when a similar proposal
cent. per annum
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was made, some 40 or 50 years ago. But then it was DAILY WEATHER TABLE. under the command of his son, Mueei MOHAMMED, Do. (181. E. & H.) .. all pi -1% amounted to 15,5 1 I
said, " Oh, these ultramontanists don't know what Eastern Counties .. •• 20 5% -6% 6% was added to the
is best for the interest of the Church of Rome." He State of the Wind and Weather at each of the following land ere a fortnight shall have elapsed. The speech
of the Marquis of LAN iDOWNE was calm, dignified, and when thus deserted by his allies and bunted by them Eastern Union, class A,
thought, on the contrary, that they knew very well what places at Nine o'clock yesterday morning.-The stations
to the boundaries of the Mogrebbin territory, ABD- late E. IT. shares • • all 4% - 5 creased to 28,0621.
they were aiming at.-(blear.) He entreated their Lordships are arranged in order of latitude. statesmanlike, worthy of himself and of the cause of Do. do. do. .. 6•
EL-KADER was compelled at last to cross the waters Do. do., B& C shares all 3% -3% The C, mmittee 1 unanimously.
,
to look at the spirit in which this act had been done. Paymoura-Wind N.W., gentle breeze-partially cloudy.
civil and religious liberty, of which this Bill will, East Lancashire •• •• all 18% - 13% 13% %
The Roman Catholics had not been given a domestic hies- Poaesetoune-Wind S.W., gentle breeze-cloudless• of the Mollouieh, and to convey by this road his have received, this n
when it shall have become law, be one of the most Do. New quarter') • • all .. -..
archy of their own, but the existing ecclesiastical establish- GOSPORT-Wind N. W.-fine. Deira within the confines of the French dominion. Edinburgh and Glasgow 50 27 -29 Mr. Lord, dated "Li
meat of the country had been wholly passed over.-( Hear, Bamerros-Wind S W.-fine. important bulwarks, defending those liberties, as it Edin., Perth, and Dundee 25 5 - 6 the following are ex
hear.) It was not difficult to see where this would lead to. SouTHAMprON-Wind S.W., gentle .
breeze-cloudless. We remember, naoreover, that after maintaining his Exeter and Exmouth .. 1 1 0 .. -.. " I have now to t
11cloudy. does,•the grinding,Glasgow and South-West, 100 .. _..
The Pone had created an entirely new hierarchy, and the FoLKEgaseeea_Wind S.W., gentle breeze-partially 9 against most the meanest, the position against 38,000 men, and this with merely a De. do. G. D. &C.steck 868 .. -.. that will, lam
Pope, by his breath, could also destroy it.-(Hear, bear.) TUNERIDGFa-Wind W. gentle breeze-partial y. cloudy. most degrading, the most body-and-soul enslaving little phalaex of 2,000 under his own banners, the Great Northern .. .. all 16 - 1614 16U fi them; it is contah
He warned their Lordships, however, that this measure had BasnueszokE-Wind S.W., gentle breeze-partially cloudy.
Do. halves, A, deferred all 4% -5 % 5% Minister, dated tl
no connexion with the advance, real or supposed, of the BeesileaSTOKlC of all tyrannies-a sacerdotal despotism, whose Emu,
was finally reduced to a situation of such ex- Do. halves, B, 6 per ct. all 1174 - 1234 12% % closed is a copy.
Chureh of Horne. The advance, if advance there be, must GREENWICH-Windmiserable and grovelling victims dare not even •t Great Southern and
W., gentle breeze-cloudless.
vsr......fine.
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tremi y that he could only have insured of the Executive, al
Western, Ireland ••• all 38 -39
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the House to consider that Rome bad not always advanced RUGBY-Wind S., gentle breeze-cloudless. think, or hope, or wish, or pray but as their masters his personal safety by the desertion of the Great Western .. •• 100 81% - 82)a 82% 3( 83 3(
Carlisle
.•...• 11
4111173%4 7.89.% -2
8.91.% p. are set at nought.
its pretensions and its policy by spiritual means. It had re- fAßmouyEt-Wind
S.-fine. tell them, and are, therefore, placed in even a more miserable remnant of his followers. Seeing this,es.•;o• -•
all
80 dared to be set &pate
13% - este 14
made us® of for oth
sourse to pomp and power, which, unfortunately, struck not Lowesnee-r-Wind S.
degraded position than the negro slave, whoseP
-only the vulgar but others. They were imperatively bound LElcEsyErt--Wind S -fine. aware that further resistance was impracticable, and
[4B 47%% ensuing financial ye
to see that that advance should not be aided by the principles DERBY-Wind W,-fine. thoughts at least are free. The Marquis of LANs- Lancashire and Yorkshire 100 45% -463( 4534 47 46% interest, to apply
ind W.- fine. confiding in the magnanimity, or, at any rate, in the
Do. quarter shares .. all . -
of our ancient English laws, and the sacred prerogative of NOT izosiexAel.-W payment, so as tc
the Crown of these kingdoms.-(Cheers.) Lreconet-Wind N. E.-cloudy. DOWNED at the very commencement of his speech, honesty of the French nation, ABD-EL-KADER offered Do. tifths .. • •• 11)6 934 - 9•• db. 2% %% %
Do. West Riding Union 11% .. -.. d. account,' with the
The Earl of AIRLIE supported the Bill, observing that CHESTERFIELD-Wind N.W.--fine, placed the argument on its proper basis when he de- to surrender himself conditionally to the commandant Leeds and Thirsk ..
•• all 10% - 11% 10% 1134
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great excitement prevailed on the subject throughout the laliesßito'-- of the province of Oran, the distinguished soldier Liverpool, Crosby, and that interest shall le
country, and that the nation looked to Parliament for the Eleeenemala--wWhed W.-line P subjects of this realm, but with a foreign Power, 17%•
.
ample redress of so great a grievance. siexeriaLD-- Ind W.S.W., strong breeze. General LAMORICIERE. To this proposition it cannot Lo 6% % Ist of July next, so
The Bishop of ST. DAVID'S said that though this subject LivEarooL-Wind W.-fine. and most happily did he illustrate this argument by be forgotten that General LAMORICIERE acceded Do., Tilbury Ext. Scrip 1% par -la p
London, Brighton, and be made on the let
each year. Hy rep
was one upon which he had reflected much, and which had MANCHESTER-Wind W.-cloudy. the constant practice of the Government of this with 1. 't led • himself in the most em- South Coast .. •• 100 92 -93
a acri y, pging, V4
occasioned him deep concern, not so much in his character HULL-Wind N.W.-fine.London and N.-Western 100 121% -122 122% 129 % put into the hands e
country, which " had at all times so steadily,
of a bishop of the Established Church, as in other respects, NORMATITON-Wind N.W.-fine. phatic manner conceivable, to see the terms Do. do. new quarters . 22 3% -3% p. 2534 of the 21st. I beg
he had at first come to the resolution of giving a silent vote LitXDS- Wind N.W.-very fine. and, he might add, so stiffly refused to of the surrender fulfilled. Nor was this the Do. fifths aa .. la 8-3 ya e. committee to it, to
only Do. 101. sh., M. & B (c) 1 2 2%
on the motion now before their Lordships, but he thought it same-Wind W.S. W.-very fine. admit the existence of foreign titles within it, ex- - p. point out as the re
advisable for several reasons that he should briefly state to NEWCASTLE-Wind W.-fine. d into with th E the word
, engagement entere e MIR, •
aendon and S.-Western . 100 82 -83 53 3(
tile House the views which he entertained respecting it. In BERWICK-Wind W.-fine. cept in rare cases and under peculiar circumstances,' of the French soldier being backed by the word Do. new 501. .. •• 42% 9% -8% dila
Do. new 40/. .. • • 34 7% -6% dis. the financial depart]
hove that the 500,00
the first place, then, he conceived it to be very doubtful GLASGOW-Wind W.-fine. adding, that if they attached such importance to Manchester, Buxton, and
NS rhether the interests of tee Church of England had been EDlNeurtoet-Wind W.- cloudy. of a French Prince, the conduct of General LAMORI- Matlock • • •• • • 13% 1% -2 1% based upon .Vie ex
But if titles of a profane nature, how much more wouldManchester, beeffleld & operation (as rasps
&erected by the recent measures of the See pf. Rome.i .
... The returns from the following places indicate the state of clean in accordi:this " " being formally ig esnaun
Lincolnshire - , 1
tb.is were not, as he conceived it to be, apolitica question-if the wind and weather on Saturday morning at nine they attach to titles of an ecclesiastical character, and solemnly approved of by the Due D'AUMALE, a Do. Manchester.. an.i SO 2534 - 26% 2634 % will be duly applied
it vrere an ecclesiastical question affecting the rights of the. a'clock :- (as I have been as-u
cordially agree with the sent- which a foreign power disposed of here by assume- Lincoln Union .. 4 2 0 3% -2% dis.
Chuerch, then he should mostson of the KING, and at the period in question thedie' ~c„,E,34. to say that implicit
speechwhich the Noble admirable . , .
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Governor of the whole land of Algeria. After having Do. 50/. shares •• •• 36 22% -22 dis. 13% Nothing short of
delivered, and which seemed to . R- in
Dukc had just now Do. Birming & Derby 100 la -20 Considering that I
hole subject. And if ever the Ie RITRY-Wind SE., gentle breeze--cloudless. gument completely took the wind out of the thus briefly and distinctly brought these facts to midland Gt. West. (Ire.) 47% .
him to exhaust the whole • -•• interest ha‘ becon
Chun;h were injuriously affected by this step on the - Newcastle and Carlisle•• all
that the 500,000
part of the Pope, he was sure he only spoke the
,(' if 't,v39 4 ;?'e a prepared and laboured speech, evidently drawn up calve, to remark that the conditions of the surrender De. quarter shares .. all ••
--- ••
.• ••
Newmarket .. .. • • all 7% -7% 7% in the approaching
sentiments of the majority of his Right Reverend Bro- 4, t -.+l
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he expressed the hope that no injustice l's 'a4- A. l'i, *i ,p,r c.u.,,,,,. ..,,....,A,
4 to meet the arguments which he supposed the Mar- Newport, Abergavenny, interest of 3i per
were ratified by the Duc D'Aumnee, in and Hereford
they a, when
Ay" '' - ace •••,a-e e:
~..a pea ii. ~T.• •• •• 8 oi - 8 dis. ration, determined i
don eto their Church from without, should induce them to •!`„,a-e--., ' '-
Wein -ae' rk7i ;•''' '-"%./ t " quis of LANSDOWNE might have used. That the Newry and Enniskillen• • 7 .. -•• dia.
withdraw privileges of which the Roman Catholics had been "'", *Co. .0- ,
"
ee ee - 4,,--- ..,*.stidA. ~,,,•., ~-,,Nri. , j,41 Earl of ABERDEEN should have opposed this measure .
every, even the minutest, particular-thaty,N y, Warrenpoint, ik talise, deeming the c
The lan ua e of th *
long
in the enjoyment. . g... g eir documents -; - e*e•::ie ' ."! Die e',77e,r,te;er • a
eto ..',;;;Sak 'Rem' • ,--e- into his hands it was, as the son of the Rostrevor .. .. • • all .. -.. him into reasonable
was certainly bold and assuming. No cardinal legate in the '' was naturally to have been expected. IVhen Norfolk •.. a a .. 100 17 -19 will agree in the pre
French SOVEREIGN, and as his recognised viceroy in Do. New 201. shares- te 14 -13 ata.
reign of King John could have expressed himself with greater " Supposing a cot
awl scity, than did the apostolic rescript under wh'eh Cardi- •'''''' ...........s - . .
Algeria, that the EMIR delivered up his sword, accom- Northern Counties Union 3% 3 -2% its.
North British.. .. .. 25 6% -6% 6% the next three or fo
nal Wiseman was appointed. The object, too, was clearly .aa -a e, dicate the honour or to secure the in-
panying, it at the time', if we
recollect
rightly, with North Staffordshire .. 17% 9% -9% difa 8% 34 the intention of the
the extension of the Roman Catholic religion, and the lit tiflitrall -.Z.) tit it tercets of this country from foreign encroachment, . North-Western .. .. Is .. -.• dis.
holders. Should a
foundation of the hierarchy was not intended to be the last, " 'V wee., but it was sure to be opposed by the Earl of ABER' the friendly gift of his favourite charger-an Arabian. North &SthaVV'est.June. 1 .. - ••• P
Oxford, Worcester and then be for the con
u: t the first of a series of aggressive acts, all having the same ...,4a,An account of this surrender, accompanied with a Wolverhampton.. .. all 1334 -14 14% pursued.
ea din view. When the aggression of the Pope was made LONDON, TUESDAY, JULY 22, 1851. DEEN, whose whole career in office has been one of
precise mention of its conditions, was transmitted of Scottish Central .. •• 25 15 - 15% 15% Hero follows the
known in this country, it presented itself under a two-fold Scottish Midland .. .. an
see.-___ timid truckling, of yielding compliance with the most • -•• by the Minister of
respect-first, that of an insult ; and, secondly, that of an course at the time to the Home Government; and Do. new .. •• • • 23% :. -..
iaijury.-(Hear, hear.) On the first point there was a gene- In the House of Lords last night, unreasonable assumptions of foreign Powers,
ABD-EL-KADER found himself shortly afterwards, Shrews. & Bine., Class A all 6% - 6 dis. 634
demise.
sal unanimity Do. Class 11.. .. .. an 54 - 5 die, "• " Sir,-We have
eof opinion, not only in Parliament but out of The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second read • whilst out of office he has invariably been shrews. & Hereford., Old 5 3% - 2IM dis.
Parliament ; but still he would consider whether the act was •NAPOLEON had done in 1815, received as a
as
of
ins the Ecclesiastical the mouthpiece of the Absolutist powers Do., do., New •• 5 a - a
really, as many supposed, an insult. Upon mature delibe- upon the hearth of his forgoer enemies, and Shrewsbury and Chester Nos. 1 and 2, contai
rlttion, he must confess that he did nut consider it as such. The Earl of ABERDEEN, who contended that there had in Europe, aiding to the very best of his (Nor. W. 3t111.) • • - all lb -17 the Foreign Debt o
then,
Eta would say, ho wev' en patriotic
that in his opinion the aggression been no aggression committed by the POPE in conferring small abilities their intrigues against any -
as it were-when lie least suspected Do. Halves .. .. .. all 7% - 834
ferrEd, by which it f
cons; * ' s‘ed in the attempt to do without the consent of the territorial titles on the Roman Catholic ' Bishops, moved Minister who dared to uphold the honour and interest it--" immolated." The promi-e of General LAMORI- Do. o,swestry •• • . all 11 -13
Do. New- .. ~ .. 1
34 - % es. constituents, 1,200
Sovereign of this country that which it was usual to do with that the Bill be read• a second CIERE was nothing, the promise of the Dec 13%1UM ALB Shropshire Union .. .• 6% 3% - 314 d, the active debt tip to
it. In passing the Relief Act, it was impossible that the time that day three o ' England. The author of the Ashburton capitals-
t Do., A, B, C, & D. fully
have reached this
Legislature could ever have contemplated the legalizing of months.was nothing, the pledges given successively by a paid up at per cent .. - .. -
such an act as that of which they now complained.-( Hear.) Lord BEAUMONT, who considered the aggression as of tion is only consistent with his antecedents when he
soldier and a Prince were flagrantly set at defiance, ,
efouth Devon •• .. •• all 14 -15 14% 14 the political convul
He would support the Bill,
eats could not say he was entirely entirely a politico,) recommends to us to bow our heads in all humility South-Eastrn • • 30 21 2l M 21% % % Government was o
Satisfied with it. It was o ode of bringing about an - . and instead of finding himself treated according to South Wales.. .. - all 26 - 26)a entire fourth part
amicable understanding, but it had failed. If this measure witted in conjunction with the Absolutist Powers, for before the POPE; cat excellent ABERDEEN could not hie solemnly reified stipulations, ABD EL-RADER South Yorksh. and River
Dan •..•• •• 15 334 -2% Ms. been destined for th
in practice did not answer, he should still hope that the form the purpose of destroying, if possible,do otherwise than counsel us to submit to encroach- Sheff., Roth., and Goole, fortunately continue
a evil an sell-ll •"1 dawoke from his dreams of Christian honour to behold
would be made more available to carry out the substance. glens South Divisloa .. .. 6 tO the present time,
The question was, whether they would adopt this measure, 1* liberty,
tous supported the second reading. manta on the part of those foreign Powers of
himself entrapped into a close incarceration. Remem Stockton • • -• .
and Hartlepool 16 2-3 934 -10 of the State. In
which answered the purpose of a strong remonstrance, and The Duke of WELLINGTON considered that the enact- whom he is the excellent friend and ally ; the man Swansea ix Loighor, &e. . - a
bar, it was solely owing to his confidence in the faith of raw Vale Extension .. 934 .. -.. EL national treasury, ii
which might dispose the minds of the parties affected by it ment of some such measure was necessary to meet who went out of his way to betray the BANDEIRAS Thames Haven Desk and ensuing financial yes
to come to some compromise. Meantime, it answered the the French nation, that he had yielded himself up
the t Railway .. .• •• 17% 16 -15 dis. extraordinary contr
inestimable advantage of keeping inviolate and unimpaired e recent aggression, and he, therefore, supported the to Austria could not be expected to oppose the en- . • -.
to the authority of its representatives. Had Vale of Neath .. • • 13 . • -.. d.
that deposit of law, rights, and privileges of the Crown and Bill- croachments of Rome, those encroachments being Waterford and Kilkenny all .. - ..• interest of the foreie
Empire, bequeathed to them by their ancestors, and tom- The Earl of ALeamesnuity supported the Bill. he so pleased, he might, even then, at the eleventh Waterford and Limerick, all .. -.. payment that may t
milted to their charge.-(Hear, hear counselled by Austria. Throughout the whole
hour, have evaded their grasp, and found shelter from Waterford,at present to the foe
Lord are
considered that not the Crown, butand Dublin .. .. 3 .. -.. On the motion of the Earl of? WINCHILSEA, the debate the Church, had been insulted of the heavy, lumbering, inconsequential speechthe President of the
was then adjourned ; and their Lordships rose at twenty le - west Cornwall .. .. 9 .. , dig,
his • • the •
POPE. OPE. of the Noble Earl, we find but one sentence in which ~ . West London .. .. •• .all a -.. tasty the national err
minutes to One o'clock. putt belief in the word of a French soldier, sup- whiter:even and Furness all .. -.. deuce in this admin
IMNJIPAA..r........i.•.nrNNOI..•Cr.KtI.I,•II.PCCNICIZI3CX..TZ,II•IMMEPS...i. The Duke of ARGYLL, Lord AIRLIE, and the Bishop 2,n thin like a principle is laid down, and that sin- York, Newcastle, & Ber-
ported as it was by the promises of a French Prince,
1" the
some arrangement t
HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE AVID'S oke in fay r
of ST. D gad ou of the Bill, after which ciple is a false one. The 'principle laid down by the . wick .. .. .. •• 25 1734 -18
18 17% 1" the above
SOIREES EXTRAORDINAYRES. • the debate was ourned on the motion of the Earl of he voluntarily entered the camp of the Due D'AUMALE, Ditto and Newcastle sum, so
Madile• SOFIE cituvELLL-ERNANI. WINCHILSEA, and their Lordships rose. Noble Earl, that if the State interfered in any
and delivered himself up to the ruler of Algeria. In Extension .. .. 20 7% - 7 dis. 13
Ditto ... purchase 9 3)6 -3)( dila % moderate interest,
with the current ir
It is respectfully announced that a Grand Extra Night will take In the Commons, the discussion in the case of Mr. Al- manner with that which a church considered necessary
order to demonstrate beyondallcontradictionthe ac-
York and North Midland 50 17% - 17% 18 17% 18% • •
place TO-MORROW EVENING, July 23, when will be presented Berman SALOMoNS was resumed.don as you indicate.
Verdi's admired opera, entitled for its full development, it did not tolerate that church,
in the Bank of Eng
ERNANI. On entering the House Mr. Alderman Salaeoalome took State 't -
and that, therefore, the was bound to permi auracy of these statements, that ADD-EL-RADER lamas
zsz _ s
..a. ED ALT PIZIIIII 31111NICALILIII, posal, to liquidate I
Eivira, Madlle Sone Craven' ; Carlo V., Signor Colette; Rti, his seat below the bar.might still have escaped from the grasp of
Gomez, Signor Scapini ; Ingo, Signor Casanova Ernani, Mr. Sims In reply to Sir B. HALL, every sect which it tolerated to do all and everything ~ Business Ist of April to thi
his European antagonists, it is only necessary Railways. Imaging Paid. Nominsa Prices.
Reeves. Conapanies. done to-day. begin on the Ist of
Lord J. RUSSELL announced that the Government did which it might consider necessary for its development.
In the course of the evening Herr Kruger (Pianist to his Majesty to refer to the declaration made on the 3d of Fe-,
the King of Wurtemberg), will have the honour to perform a Mor- not intend to institute any legal proceedings against Now the Roman Catholic Church considers the Barks and Hants
ceaux. de Concert, with Orchestral accompaniments. Mr. SALOMONB. bruary, 1848, by no less a personage than General Ex. 5 per Cent. Gt. Western 6 %-I p. x.l no delay in this bus
With various entertainments in the Ballet Department, supported Sir B. HALL then announced that the Hon. Member existence of the Inquisition necessary for its full , Blr. and Oxford on the subject as of
by Madlles. Amalie Ferraris Carolina Rosati, and Marie Tag ' . LAMORICIERE. According to the views of that dis- Juncecallsduly settlement of the mi
Os Thursday and Friday next, July 24th and 25th, Two Grandi for Greenwich would take his seat ; whereupon Mr. development. Would the .Noble Earl permit the • paid, or with a
tinguished soldier, he maintained " tbat all responst-
'extra Nights. SALOMONS walked up the House and took his seat be- e bl. ' tof the Inquisitionwithin these P .sta ishmen - 2934 X.l
Applications for Boxes, Stills, and Tickets to be made at the tween Sir B. HALL and Mr. C. ANSTEY. Hey had been taken off his shoulders, as soon as the DO.,
Boa-office of the Theatre. The Opera to commence at Eight. We tolerate the religion of the Hindoos, but be- guarantee .. De .. •• all 27 -28 set The English nu
A scene of great contusion followed, and the SPEAKER Government had ratified the convention. .He could Birm., Wol., & there is nut much
ordered Mr. SALOMONS to withdraw. The worthy Al. cause the sacrifice of widows is necessary to the full Duclecalls duly
HER AIAIESTY'S THEATRE.not,"insisted,"under the have
he
paid, or with a Transfer and 961 fc
First Night of Auber's last new Opera, derman, however, remained in his seat, and the SPEAKER development of that religion, the Noble Earl
forced the Ewa to surrender unconditional)y. He e guarantee •• Do .. .. 15 8 - 9 p Quarter p-r Cents.
ZERLINA ; ou, Le Corbeille d'Oranges. appealed to the House to support him. Do., without a per Cents 97i to i.
Madlle. ALBONI. Great uproar hereupon followed, in the midst of which would hardly contend that we persecuted a
might have secured his tent, and even his carpet; but guarantee •• Do •• •• 15 7 -8 D , d 216. Excht quer- bi
It is respectfully announced that THIS EVENING will be pre. Brahmin because we refused to permit him to nuekinehamsh. Lon. & N.W. all 17% - 17% X. 17% •
Mr. B. OSBORNE made several unsuccessful attempts to Eallßhimself would havebeen ableto reach the
s 62e. premito
tented ((Cr the first time in this country), Auber's last new Opera Clydesdale June Caledonian all 41 -43
entitled ' address the blouse; at length celebrate a suttee at Charing-cross, yet to
the desert." Yet, with these considerations be- E. Lin., Guar. 6 Money and 96i i f
ZERLINA ; ou, Le Corbeille d'Oranges. Lord J. RUSSELL moved a resolution ordering Mr. this extent must come the arguments of theper Cent. .. G. Northern all 3334 - 33% 8334 Foreign Stocks
Zerlina, Aherne. Alboni ; Jemma, Mathis. Nau (her first appear- SALOMONB to withdraw in the name of the House. fore them, the Ministers of Louis PHILIPPE, guided ,Gioucester and
ante at this theatre) ; the Princess, Madlle. Feller ; the Prince Roe- mr.Noble Earl, if they are logically carried out to their . Dean Forest Gt. Western 20 3i - 134 P x.l remain at 30i to -ge
canera, Signor Scapini ; Marquis Buttura, Signor Mercurial! ; Ro- C. ANSTEY, f going into legal
a ter
in
Hull sad Selby Yk. &N. M. all 102 - 104 been at 344 a Rusei
dolphe, Signor Calzolarl. prove that the administration of the oath of abjuration ultimate consequences. The true principle was
of that Monarch and by the despicable subserviency of Do. )6 Shares Do .. .. all 51 -53 been at 100 i. Brae
In the 3d act a Divertissement, arranged by af. Paul Taglioni. La was not required by law, moved the adjournment of the that laid down by Lord BEAUMONT, in the Do. % Shares Do .. .. all 23 -24
Styrienne, by Madlles. Esper, Dantonie, and M. Ehrick. Le Pashis Vizier, INI. GUM:3T, proved faithless to the 90 to ie Daniah b
Leeds and Brad. Midland .. all 100 - 102
t:hinois, by the Ladies of the Corps de Ballet. Galop Final. debate.
best speech that has yet been delivered and Green. S. Eastern.. all 11M - liii Half per Cents. hay
To conclude with the admired Divertissement, LES GRACES, In. The House divided- engagements of the Due D'Aumaen, and shamelessly Lou.
fall
2336
.....
24x
Do., Pre . .. Do .. .. Railway Shares
*educing the celebrated Pas de Trois ; Euphrosyne, Madlle Carolina For the adjournment ... ... ... 65 on this subject, and who said that no
retained the ESIR ill imprisonment. So monstrous in Lowestoft, Gd. 4
Rosati ; Thalia, Maxine. Maria Taglionl ; Eglaia, Madlle, Amalie butt he tone general
Ferra Against it man was entitled to any liberty, civil or religious, per Cont. •• Norfolk .• all 14 -- 15
every respect was the course pursued in this instance Great Northern, Gr
Do., 6 per cent Do a.. all •• -•• The Opera will commence at Eight o'clock. Majority ... ... ... ... -191 which interfered with the exercise of a similar liberty ellesbre' and shire, Blackwell, N,
Applications for metes, Stalls, and Tickets to be made at the Box- In this division Mr. SALOMONS voted, and when the by the French Government, so execrable and odious
31iRdedcar, 6p. ct Stockt& Dar all •• -•*
office of the Theatre. on the part of every other individual he then pro- ford, Sauth•Easteri
Members returned from the lobbies, resumed his seat. was its turpieude towards one of the most illustrious N. & East, 5
TMEATRE ROYAL, HAYMARKET. Mr. ANSTEY then proceeded with his arguments on ceeded to describe the liberty enjoyed by the Roman per cent. •• E. Couhtiea ail 54 -- 56 Berwick.
and heroic of its antagouiats, that it is no wonder,
.00. New
.. Do . . 4 _ 6 p
. • • 43 French Shares ar
Mr. B. Webster, sale Leseee and Manager, Ole lerenapeon. the main question.
THIS EVENING, , Catholics in this country, and to contrast it with the indeed, to find the treatment of ABD•EL-KADER num- Preston and iL.&x. w. au 42 -44 43%
Will be performed THE MERRY WIVES OF WINDSOR. air The gallery was cleared for a division, but none tookWyre • • • • j„, &La.& Y.J
1 er y t ey enjoyed in other countries, in the follow-
Da t h 'lotrelea OF BRITISH
John Falstaff, Mr. Hackett. place. bared amongst those heinous crimes for which the Done SharesA Do .. .. 10)6 8 - 9 P• Bulk Stock ...... ..... .
After which an entirely new Farce, entitled GRIMSHAW! BAG- Mr. BERNAL 08BoRNE moved as an amendment that ins words :-" As individuals, the Romon Catlaolics
corrupt monarchy of Louis •Parterre was doomed Read., Guild.,
21% ye N 3 ;nor Cent. :rteduceci .
11HAW! and BRADSHAW ! Mr. SALO:MONS do take his seat. enjoyed in this country a liberty which they did notand Reigate .. e. Eastern a all 21% - 21%
3 nor Cent. C•nneole Fes
To conclude with the Farce of JOHN DOBBS. John Dobbs, Mr. - -r. to suffer such tremendous punishment. If the Spanish Roy. & thtchin G. Northern 6% 8% -8%
Mr, T. HOBILOUSE contended that a resolutioni ea Shop. Ex.. Do .. .. 4 1% - lYill• 3 per Cent. Annuitiet
Leigh Murray. of the enjoy in most foreign countries, and which certainly
House could not exclude the Hon. Member for Green-
THEATRE ROYAL. ADELPIII. wish, who might sit or veto if he chose to run the risk they did not enjoy in any Roman Catholic
others, if the diabolical guilt of the aristocracy, as Goole, 5 per ct. Lane. York 18 11 6 .. -• • Lo .g Anne. to expire
Under the direction of Madame Cc'-ear. South Staffords. Mr. al`Clean 9% 3% - 23% ala* "t of incurring the penalties. India Bonds;, 1,000/..e.
THIS EVENING, country- with which he was acquetinted.
revealed in the instance of the Due DE CHOIBEUL Wear Val. 6 per
Will be performed THE GREEN BUSHES. Connor O'Kennedy, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL considered the statute im- 'al Cent. gun. .. Stock.& Dar. all 24 -25 Ditto under 1,000/,
• ld i tie' ti ey cou n is coun ry worship us they
Efr. Parselle ; Wild Murtogh, Mr. O. Smith ;Muster Grinnidge, Mr posing the penalties was prohibitory us well as penal. PRASLIN, can be said to have precipitated events to- Do. do. •• Do .. .. an .. - - South Sea Stock
Wright ; Jack Gong, Mr. Paul Bedford; Miami, Madame Celeste ; Mr. M. GIBsoN thought they ought to pleased and whet© they pleased, and, while - Do. do. •• Do .. .. all .. -.. Ditto Old Annuitie
Geraldine, Miss Ellen Chaplin. reseed with
d wards the outbreak of the revolution of February, wilts, Som., &
To be followed by a new comic Opera, entitled GOOD NlGHT',caution. great allowed to do as much as they chose, they were not
that terrible explosion must he regarded as in like Weymouth .. Gt. Western all 45 - 4534 xi xd. -
C aleole Tor Account
exchequer Bins.
IRGNOR PANTALON. Doctor Tititofolo, Mr. Paul Bedford ; Signor The SOLICITOR-GENERAL considered that the oath, compelled by law to do more. They were in every 1,000/.
Pantalon, Mr. Honey ; Lela', Miss Woolgar ; Columbine, Miss Katie- as Mr. SALOMONS had taken it, was legally complete'
manner retributive of the faithlessness shown by the PREFER.LINC3S 1188.1111311111. 500/.
lien Fitzwillifun.way free agents, and he wished that as free agents
To conclude with the Farce of FORTUNE'S FROLICS. Robezi and effective. monarchical administrators in their conduct towards -- Small. ..
Ro they should ever remain. With regard to the Roman
ughhead, Mr. Emery ; Dolly, Miss Ellen Chaplin. Mr. CLAY advised the House to assume the respond- ABD-EL-KADER. True, no doubt, that the Republic Railways. I Paid. Nominal Prices. Sulam dose
yof letting iu the Jews at once. Catholic Church in this country, it was more than to-day. PRICES OF FOREIC
ROYAL PRINCESS'S THEATRE, OXFORD-STR,ET. - bilit- has failed as yet to efface the stain imprinted on the _ i
Under the Management of Mr. C. Kesee and Mr. Keelea. After a few words from Mr. VILLIERS and Lord J. tolerated. It was, to a t . d cer ain egree, protected.
national honour by the Monarchy, a stain b; h 1 d wax- -a- Aberdeen •• •• •• all 1 -teals dis.
THIS EVENING, RUSSELL, ' Ditto, Small ....
Caledonian 10/. •• • • 10 6 -6% 6
Will be performed a new No one had a right to interfere with it or with . Play, called THE DUKE'S WAGER:. Mr. BETHELL contended that the House had both the in some measure to the burlieg down of the royal Chester and Holyhead .. all 14% - 15% Danish 80nd5,1825
Characters by Messrs. C. Fisher, Wigan,
Wynn, Cooke, Everett.; • Dund. Per. & Aber. Jane, an ix - % dis. Mexican, • per Ct.,
Mrs. Winstanley, Mrs. Wigan, miss Vivash, and Mrs. Kean. right and the duty to vary the formula of the oath ac- the building of its temples, or to prevent it
'scutcheon-yet, ins pite of all delays, we rest as- Base Anglian (31. 10s.) Ditto, Account -
After which a new Farce called APARTMENTS. cording to each particular case, and quoted a variety of having as many men as it chose ministering within
"Visitors to the Exhibition may be accommodated." precedents in support of his position. cured that the expiaeion here allueed to is only de- 6 per cent. .. .. .. all isi - a
Portuguese 6 per CI
Eastern Counties Eaten., To conclude with a new grand spectacular Extravaganza (taken - those temples-archbishops, bishops, deans, Sec. Ditto, 4 per Cent.
iron' a Tale, by Washington Irving), entitled THE ALH.L.mBRA .
Sir F. THESIGER controverted the position of the ferred until some favourable opportunity presents b per cent. No. 1 .. all par -M P x•d pm Russian Bonds ....
Or The Three Moorish Princesses. Characters by Messrs. Keel;
• Hon. and Learned Member for Aylesbury. The English Catholic Church had every opportu- itself for the redeeming of the national credit by a mug- Do. No. a••••.. an 14 dig % dlt. Ditto. 44, per Ce
Harley, A. Wigan, Wynn, Cooke, Flexmore ; Misses Marra , Dal;..7, After Do. New 6p. cast. Stock 10 03% -10 %
a few
words from Mr. AGLIoNBY and Sir R. nit of communicating freely with the Court of Dividends on
Viveall, Robertson, Leclerq, Keeley, Mille. Anriol, and I:YK I e' nanimous act on the part of the democratic Govern- Eactern Union, scrip
Private Boxes, &c., to be had of all the Booksellers, and efeMe' • INGLIS, Rome without let or hindrance, or of ministering its guaran. 6 per cent. .. all 13 - 1334 Belgian, 41/2 per Ce
lif assingham merit. May that opportunity present itself very Do. 101. Deben. Shares, au ;of whom also places may be taken at the Bozo r•
Mr. BRIGHT said that the precedent set in the case of ••• -..-
-Mlle a, affairs by domestic government, if it preferred that Eait Lancashire, 6 per
Oxford-street, from Eleven till Fear o'clock. Mr. PEASE ought to govern the present case. speedily, so tbat the great man who is now unjustly cent. quarter shares .. an .. .- .. LLOYD'S SH
ROYAL LYCEUM THEATRE. - The House was then addressed by Mr. NEWDEGATE, course. Nay, more; it had the perfect power and
detained within the Chateau d'Amboise may be at E. &W. York. June. sths all - -..
Ucder the Management of Madame vestige. Mr. Evans, Col, TmompeoN, Me, CROWDER, Mr. WAWN, privilege of having a regular hierarchy, if it chose." length liberated,and a grievous disgrace at the same
Etna Y& nu 5,i tact. au )4 du. - par
LONDON, JULY 11:
sae Lessee, Mr. Cha:les mathavre. and Mr. J. A. SMlTH.Glasgow & S.-W. Consul. 100 - -• ••
THIS EVENING, This, as the evidence of a liberal Roman Catholic, is moment be erased from the remembrance of Gt Northern, 5 per cent, all 13)6 - 13% fine.
Will be performed On a division there appeared- Great South. & Western FOWEY, JOLT 21.-
ONTAY A CLOD. -Per the simnel/4 .-....,, 01 invaluable, and outweighs whole oceans of such drivel Christendom. (TreOwnill alahthe

ONLY A CLOD.

To be followed by
COURT BEAUTIES.

KING CHARMING.

To conclude with

KOVAL OLYSiple
Lessee and Manazer, Mr. NP—itAE.
THIS EVENING. arr"'
Will be performed the VICAR OF WAKEFIELD.
After which THE FIRE-EATER.
To be followed by DIOGENES and his LANTERN.

ASTLEY'S ROYAL AMPHITHEATRE,----'
Maar the Patronage Gt her 3lojesty and his Royal aighn6,o
Prince Albert.
r'-ottrietor end Manager, Mr. W. Ratty.
Third Week of Lord Byron's Maxeppa.
Wonderful success—the revival of liyron's Dramatic Spectacle of
ItazePpa has exceeded the Proprietor's most sanguine expectations ,
the Amphitheatre being literally inundated nightly to witness tht
highly Popular production. The brilliant new and expensive scenic.;
magnificent costumes, gorgeous decorations, and brilliant
tab‘eatix nightly elicit the most enthusiastic applause.
be THIS EVENING,
Performed the grand Spectacle entitled 3fAZEPPA ;:
er the Wad Florae of Tar tYwhich has been revived, in conse-
quence of numerous a_
p; l'eataiorns' fror Persons of all Nations to wit-•
ness the magnincent
spectacle.
To be followed -
HrelY new Conl-:! u'w, Scenes of the Circle, introducing an en-•
Artlatei. ""Y of Eng:lsh, French, Italian, and American

To conclude with a laughable Farce.
rka-eflace open from Eleven till •oar.
Stage Mana;cer. Mr• T. Thompacn.

PUNCH'S PLAYEIousR
Lessee, Mr. Tin ,VD STRAND THEATRE.
s E,,E,I.AICD, Liverpool.
Will be performed a Nevr and --'AG.
VILLAGE NIGHTINGALE. ,
Attixal characters by Mr. 11. J.
prinOeriglnal Tiurleta, entitled THE
Craven, Messrs. Norton, Rogers
Nel=, R. Romer, and Haskell ;
Miss E. Romer and Miss Eliza
ballads, composed expressly for her by s;
.2.1"10 will sing two new
OOeDeI,I7:AS,
To be followed by MY WIFE's rtiTtr7. rn. Esq.
sing.
OF
After which a new Burlesqu:?, e :titled
COVENTRY. Charactcrs by Messrs. j,
Romer. Haskell, Attwood; Mesdames Marsha' j .Roger, Norton,
Romer, and Maskell. IL. C. Horsman, E.
To conclude with WILD DITCK:I.
The prices of admission are arranged as now .—Orchestra
4s ; boxes (first circle), 35.; (seeend circle), 2s. ; Pit, Is. a stalls,
Doors to be opened at Half-put Six, and the performances
Commence at Seven precisely. to
A second price will be taken to the Boxe3 only at Half-past Nine
—first circle, 25.; second circle, Is.
Private Boxes One Guinea and a Half each.

ROYAL SURREY ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS
Re-engagement of M. JULLIEN for a limited number of Nights.
Every evening (Saturday excepted), Danson's Colossal Modelled
Picture of the Temple of Janus in the Eternal City.—Superb
Menagerie —Performing Elephants—Promenade Concert d'Ete.
conducted by M. Jullien, arid sustained by the elite of his Unrivalled
Band. Jullien's latest and most favourite compositions. The Exhibi-
tion Quadrille. Crystal Fountain Polka. Amazon and Tiger Galop,
to conclude with, for the first time, a Novel and Brilliant Pyrotechnic
Device by Southby, representing the Read of Phoebus, God of Day,
xuorr,,onnded by radiated stars in various coloured fires, forming the
tlibeautiful display ever witnessed. Doors open from Nine in
tee
gen 1-4n1143- Feeding the Animals Half-past Five. Jullien's Con-
Fireworks Ten. Admission One Shilling.
T 0 - meat
Semen will/tb?,,VtichiJuly 24, the Third Grand Flower Show of the
numerous rrizetie,
aubayantheoidryal South London Floricultural Society;
ra Military Baud.

On a division there appeared—
For the amendment ... 81
Against it . . 229
Majority against the amendment —l4B
On the question being put on the original motion,
Mr. C. ANSTET stated that if the division should be
against Mr. SALomoNs, that gentleman would still con-
tinue to disobey, and a motion would bo made that he
be heard in his place in defence of his right to re-
tain his seat.

Li rd J. RussEnn hopt,d that the division would be
allowed to be taken on the original motion, referred to
the precedent set by Sir W. WYNDHAM, who punctili-
ously obeyed the vote ordering him to withdraw, and
promised, if this course should be now followed, that he
would this day move a resolution similar to that proposed
in the case of Baron ROTHSCHILD, upon which the House
might have an opportunity to discuss the principle, and
revise its decision of lust year.
Sir B. HALL believed that prolonged discussion would
throw no m re light on the subject.
Mr. HEADLA3I advised Mr. SALOMONS to claim his
right to speak, as he bad already exercised the right of
Sitting and voting.
Thus appealed to,
Mr. tiaLomoxs, after apologising for the unusual
course which he had adopted, affirmed that he designed
no disrespect to the House or the SPEAKER, but acted in
support of a constitutional question, and in defence of
the privileges of his constituents. He should obey the
order to withdraw if the vote passed to that effect, and
provided just sufficient force were used to constitute an
ostensible compulsion. The speech was listened to with
much attention and followed by much cheering.
Alter 501110 remarks from Mr. BRIGHT, Sir DE LACY
EVANS, Lord JOHN RUSSELL, and Mr. B. OSBORNE,
The House divided on the question of adjournment,
when there appeared—

••• 75
••• ... 237
)131:Cr);
Majority ...
lion that Mr. SALO3IONS ordered
A second division immhediately 'io.ct)ok
appeared-
-231
wpria:chT:roanlw6.t2h;
Against ... ••• 81
Majority ... ••• ••• 150
The Sergeant-at-Arms then advanced to the Hon.
'Member, and touching his arm, Mr. SALomoNs quitted
the House, protesting that he did so under compulsion.
A confused and tumultuous discussion followed, in the
course of which it was settled that Mr. SALOMONS was
entitled to occupy, if he pleased, a seat behind the bar ;
that the resolution proposed for to-day would be brought
on by Lord J. RUSSELL at five o'clock, on a question of
privilege ; and that if the Hon. Member for Greenwich
wished to be prosecuted, the process must be instituted
by some private Member, as the Government still de.
•clined to interfere.

Ayes
Noes

, existence of the Inquisition necessary for its full
, development. Would the Noble Earl permit the
ostablLhment of the Inquisition within these realms ?
We tolerate the religion of the Hindoos, but be-
cause the sacrifice of widows is necessary to the full
development of that religion, the Noble Earl
would hardly contend that we persecuted a
Brahmin because we refused to permit him to
celebrate a suttee at Charing-cross, yet to
this extent must come the arguments of the
Noble Earl, if they are logically carried out to their
ultimate consequences. The true principle was
that laid down by Lord BEAUMONT, in the
best speech that has yet been delivered
on this subject, and who said that no
man was entitled to any liberty, civil or religious,
which interfered with the exercise of a similar liberty
on the part of every other individual he then pro-
ceeded to describe the liberty enjoyed by the Roman
Catholics in this country, and to contrast it with the
liberty they enjoyed in other countries, in the follow-
ing
words :—" As individuals, the Ronwn Catholics
enjoyed in this country a liberty which they did not
enjoy in most foreign countries, and which certainly
they did not enjoy in any Roman Catholic
country with which he was acquointed-
They could in this country worship as they
pleased and where they pleased, and, while
allowed to do as much as they chose, they were not
compelled by law to do more. They were in every
way free agents, and he wished that as free agents
they should ever remain. With regard to the Roman
Catholic Church in this country, it was more than
tolerated. It was, to a certain degree, protected.
No one had a right to interfere with it or with
the building of its temples, or to prevent it
having as many men as it chose ministering within
those temples—archbishops, bishops, deans, &c.
The English Catholic Church had every opportu-
nity of communicating freely with the Court of
Rome without let or hindrance, or of ministering its
affairs by domestic government, if it preferred that
course. Nay, more; it had the perfect power and
privilege of having a regular hierarchy, if it chose."
This, as the evidence of a liberal Roman Catholic, is
invaluable, and outweighs whole oceans of such drivel
as that of the Earl of ABERDEEN. The truth is,
the old Roman Catholics of this country, the en-
lightened and educated Roman Catholics, are
opposed to this aggression ; the persons who
excited it were the Puseyites. As was justly ob-
served by Lord BsaumoNT—"The step taken was but
the first of a series on the part of the Court of
Rothe, directed against the liberal Catholicism
which had grown up in this country. It was An-
tended to bring over to the views of the fanatical cola-
verte, Whose extravagance and absurd prejudices had
brought disgrace on their adopted religion, those
honest, liberal, straightforward Catholics who were
satisfied with their position, and endeavoured to con-
form to the spirit of the free and liberal institutions
of their country. Above all, the recent aggression
was intended to open the way for the interference of
the Court of Rome with the educational establish.
ments of the empire—to enable it to destroy the
QUEEN'S Colleges and the liberal system of edu-
cation prevailing in Ireland—to build, as it were,
a wall around Roman Catholics, within which their
minds should be trained in a system imbued with the I
spirit of absolutism that existed in the Government
of Rome, and to establish something in the nature of
an Index Expurgatorius for science and literature.'
The Puseyites ere to a man the supporters of
absolutism. Among them, and among them alone,
are to be found the eulogisers of HAYNAU
and the apologists for Austria, and it is
to subserve the views of Austria that this
aggression has been made by the POPE. The
Duke of WELLINGTON declared that when he
reed the rescript he saw clearly that something like
this Bill must be passed, and therefore he supported
the second reading; and the Duke of ARGYLL 2nd
the Bishop of ST. DAVID'S both spoke most elo-
quently in favour of the Bill. The discussion does
great honour to the House of Lords.

Indignation is gradually extending throughout
France at the f.aitlalessness displayed towards ADD-
EL-KADER by its Government. We are beginning,
therefore, to be sanguine that that illustrious victim
of monarchical turpitude may ultimately be released
from captivity by a national sense of justice on the

MARRIAGE of MISS TALBOT and LORD

ELI GUARD HO ARD —( THIS DAY.)
The marriage of Miss Talbot, whose confinement in the
convent at Taunton was so long a subject of public discus-
sion, and Lord Edward Howard, the son of the I,uke of
Norfolk, was solemnized this morning at the Roman Catholic
Chapel in Warwick-street, Regent-street, before a large as-
semblage of members of the aristocracy and nobility. The
marriage ceremony, which was accompanied by " low
mass," in which Dr. Doyle, the bride's legal guardian, as
sisted by the Rev. Mr. D ,niel and the Rev. J. Cotter, offi•
ciated, commenced at eleven o'clock, and did not terminate
until twelve. The altar was prepared and decorated for the
occasion, and had a very grand and imposing appearance.
The railing usually surrounding it was taken away, and
richly covered chairs and kneeling cushions for the
distinguished bride and bridegroom were placed im-
mediately in front, while forms covere..l with
the same rich material were ranged on each side.
The galleries and body of the chapel were crowded to ex-
cess, chiefly by elegantly dressed ladies, and the greatest
anxiety- was evinced to catch a glance at the coutenance of
the youthful bride, whose fate at one time was so much a
matter of public curiosity and solicitude. In this, however,
many were disappointed, as she wore over her head a richly
embroidered veR, and looked towards the ground, as it too
modest and timid to encounter the earnest gaze of those
around. The spec;ators nearer the altar were more fortu-
nate, and saw ersotsgh to convince them that there were
great intelligence anti personal charms concealed beneath
the light lace covering. The bride was attended by six youth-
ful and beautiful bridensaids, attired in white, several of
whom belonged to families of distinction.
The Lord Chancellor, se ho by right of his high office, acted
as parent and guardian of ,ICliss Talbot, and had shown
throughout an ai,xious desire to consult her happiness,
was in attendance early, and in addition to honouring the
ceremony with his presence, gave away the bride, to whose
marriage with Lord E lward Hoeesed he gave his final con-
sent on Saturdey last. The Duchese cf Sutherland also ho-
noured the youthful couple with her company, and looked
almost as beautiful and fascinating as ever. We noiiced
also present, the Duke and Duchess of Aorfotk, Lord Arundel
and Surrey and Lacty, Lord Calliope the Marquis of West-
minster, Mr. John Abel Smith, M.P., Mr. Stafford, M.P.,
and others. The service having conclu dad, the parties,
preceded by the p-iests and acolyte r, retired into
the vestry, where the usual form of registration was gone
through. This being completed, the bride leaning On the
arm of Lord Edward, left the vestry, and paseing through '
the crowd in the bo !y of the chapel, amidst very cordial
greetings, which she recognised by low bows, left by one of
the doors in Warwick-street, and entered the carriage
which was waiting outside, and drove off at a very rapid
pace, on their way to Arundel Castle, where it is supposed
they will pass their honeymoon. During the whole morning
Warwic'e-street was filled with carriages and crowded with
mobs of people, whom the event had collected together.

6 per cent. all 13q 2
Eastern Counties Exten,,
re per cent. No. 1 .. all par x-d pm
Do. No. 2 • • • • .. ail 14 dig par dls.
Do. New 6p. cest. Stock 10 sO% —lO
Eastern Union, Scrip
guaran. 6 per cent. .. all 13 1334
Do. 101. Daben. Shares .
East Lancashire, 6 per
cent. quarter shares
E. &W. York. June. sths all
Edin. Per. &Dun. 5i p.ct. all %dia. par
Glasgow & S.-W. Consul. 100
Gt Northern, 5 per cent. all 13% • 13%
Great South. & Western
(Ireland) eighths 1 p. x.d
Lancasaire and York-
shire, P. 20/. .. .• • . 6 .. —• • die.
Do. 6 per ct. Stock .. 100
Leeds and Thirsk, 6 per
cent., Nt. 1.. • •.. 11 .. p
Do. quartors, 1848 .. 9 p
London, Brighton, and
South Coast guar. 5 per
et., late Creyd.o thirds 100 • . ••••
Do. pref., 5 p et. Stock,
1851, trom 5)/. share. E 100 ~
Do. new gnar,, 6 per ct. 100 • • ••• • •
London &S.-W, uew • • IS 2%
Londonderry aid Ennis-
killen, half starea • • 10
Manch., Shettlqd, and
guar. ahri., No. 1 all 12 *— 13 111 34
Do. new, 101. all 11 12
Do,, 6/, • • • • ~ 3 % P
Midland Con. 6P. c,.tock 100
Do. Consul. Nris of &
Birmudg., 6 per cent,,, 100 129%
130% xd x.d
Do. Bristol & Gloecea. 48 • • —• •
Norfolk Extension „ all 15 —l6 z.d
~). guar. 5% per cent. all 4% —4%
Do. Waveney Valley 2•
North British • • • • 5 •
44( 5 4%
Oaf. Won &W 01.151.61. c 4 % % p
siirewabery and Birre.
New Guaranteed ~ an 10% 10%
Shrews. and Ches. (Not,
W. Min.) 8 per cent. an 14% 15%
South Devon • •• •• all 13% 1434
South-Eastern, p. ct 10 •• —••
Watertord & Kilkenny, M. 1 • •
WestLondon,lat Cl.(10/.) all .. —• •
Do. 2d Class do. (par) all •• —••
York, Newc., and BerW,
6
4 164
Do.
York and North Midland
IL and S. Purch. .. 10 1% --1 die. xf
Gt. N.of E. Pur. .. all 16 16%

Boulogne and Amiena
Central of France (Or-
leans and Vierzon) .•
Demerara . • •
Dutch Itheniah • . • •
Ea.it Indian • •
Do. do. do. ..
Great Indian Peninsula..

I)ltto ditto ..
Louvain a la iSamre
Luxembourg .. ..

Ditto , • • . • • ..
Madrid and Valenta ..
Maria Antonia. ..
Ditto, New
Namur and Liege ..
Northern of Franco ..

4716 s Btl
7
all

:GM,

108 i - 11
17 - 17% x.li

We regret to state that tun Earl of Derby is COD-
tined to his room by a severe fit of the gout.

Orleans and Hordestut
Paris and Orleans ..
Paris and Rouen
Paris and Strasbourg ..
Rouen and Havre ..
Sambre and Meuse
Tours and Nantes
Tournay, Jurbise, Lan-
den, and Hassan
West Flanders

•
54 - 5 Ms.
2% -24 i 13. X.l

p.
- 4 x.l
.
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2 8
635 —6%
14% 14%
4% 44 41,..x.1
63 36
254 —25 N
5% 54 die.
93,5,
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...234 zd
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IVIONY and COIbiAIEitCIAL .Nl4, 'vV

MAai(ET NEWS.—(TiI IS DAY.)
MARIEZTS.
SMITHFIELD.—Meadow Hay, 31 lOs to 41 8s Od; Clover
ditto, 3/ lies to 4/ 10s; anu Straw, 114 s to 11 105 per load.
A full average supply, and a moderate demand.
CUMEErtLAND. —Meadow Hay, 31 lOs to 41 10s; Clover
ditto, 3/ 10s to 41 Ss; and Straw, 1/ 4s to 1/ 12s per load.
Trade steady, at full prices.
WHITECHAPEL.—Meadow Hay, 31 10s to 4/ 8s; Clover
ditto, 31 L's to 41 123; and Straw, 11 3s to 1/ 105 per load.
Supply good, and trade rather dull,
New Meadow Hay was selling at from 3/ to 3/12s per load.
C0L0N115.3..
Suc.tn.—The market to: British Plantation continues
without material alteration, stil,,s about 500 hhde, So. Of
Msuritius, 5,225 bars were offered by auction, the
dameged portion (4,600 1a5,,,,5) nt at low and irregular
prices, and at 6,1 to Is decline. Bengal, 1,580 bags
mostly sold at nearly a similar reduction, low yellow to
mid whits Benares, 34s 6d to 393. Foreign, 2,400
bags unclayed Manilla, sold at 2Ss 6d to 33s for
low to flee brown, being Gal cheaper. Private!'"
270 chests brown Bahia have been sold at 18s. The
quantity of British Plantation landed last
ANTI{ at the
E,t,t and West India Docks was 3.878 hhds, 522 tierces,
762 barrels; there were taken for home consumptioa
1,789 hhds, 220 tierce, 894 barrels.' Toe stock in the
same places is 15,700 hhds, 1,915 tierces, 5,167 barrels.
COFFEE.-55 casks Pluntati,di Ceylon, and 22 cask°
250 bags Jamaica, sold at steady rates.
RUM remains without attention, with little or no bug:
news doing. The quantity landed last week at the East
and West India Docks was 501 puns 17 hhds; there were
taken for home consumptiOn 177 puns 3 Ws, and 01:
ported 77 puns 59 hhds. The stock in the same plats
is 12,208 puns 1,504 hhds.
RICE —2,700 bags Bengal went cheaply, at 95 sa for
mid, and 102: tor good white.
SPICES.-22 cases Penang Cloves brought 18
Is Clio; 6 cases Mace, 2s 64 to 2s 7d, and 22 cases Nil'
megTs, 2s Id 23 94, beng prices.
ALLow. to
—P.Y.C. isi stead y
37s 9d to 38s per cwt. en the
spot, and
The public sales have gone off very avlly,
and but little has found buyers.
COTTON.—The market is still dull.

CITY, TWO O'CLOCK.

The sales of Cotton at Liverpool yesterday were esti-
mated at 5,000 bales, of which 800 Surat and 300 Brszil
were tlken for export. The sales comprised 4,000
American, 400 Perham and Maranham, at 6d. to 7d.;
and 200 Egyptian, at 63. to lid. per lb. The market
closed heavily, but without much alteration in prices.
—Railway Shares were rather firmer.
The Colonial Markets are still freely supplied, and
Tea rules dull.

Port Phillip accounts of March 14, notice the great
want of labour. Married couples, without families, were
receiving 351. to 381. per annum and rations. Shepherds,
with rations, 221. to 24/.; general house servants, 261.,
with rations; blacksmiths, 45/. to 501.; ploughmen, 261.
per annum. Female sQrvatts—Nursemaids, 81. to 121.;
cooks, 16/. to 204; house servants, 14/. to 161.; and
thorough servants, 161. to 181. _ _

At the annual meeting of the Commercial Berl of
London, held this day, a dividend at the rate of 6 per
cent. per annum waa declared. The net profits
amounted to 15,551/. 133. A balance of 4,1911. 3'. 6d.
was added to the reserve fund, which wa.; now in-
creased to 28,0621. 17a. lla. The report was passed
unanimously.

The Cemmittee of Spanish American Bondholders
have received, this morning, a letter from their agent,
Mr. Lord, dated "La Guayra, June 25, 1851," of which
the following are extracts:—
" I have now to transmit to the committee matter
that will, I am sure, both surprise and astonish
them; it is contained in the note of the Finance
Minister, dated the Bth instant, of which en-
closed is a copy. All the previous solemn acts
of the Executive, all the fair promises of the Minister,
are set at nought. The Minister tells us, the funds or-
dered to be set apart for the foreign creditors have been
made use of for other purposes I He refers all to the
ensuing financial year, proposes to capitalise the arrear
interest, to apply the sum in London as a partial
payment, so as to begin, what he calls, a now
account,' with the new financial year—his meaning
being, incredible as it must appear to the committee,
that interest shall henceforward be computed from the
Ist of July next, so that the half-yearly payments may
be made on the Ist of January and Ist of July of
each year. Hy reply to this note, dated the 20th, was
put into the hands of Senor Geilineau, on the morning
of the 21st. I beg to encl,se a copy, and to refer the
committee to it, to avoid a repetition of what I therein
point out as the real cause of this state of things in
the financial department. Although I would fain be-
lieve that the 500,000 dollars ussigned by Congress, and
based upon t.:ie extraordinary contribution to go into
operation (as respects creditors) on the let proximo,
will be duly applied to the payment of the bondholders
(as I have been as-ured it will), I dare not venture
to say that implicit confidence may be placed in it.
Nothing short of solid proofs can now satisfy,
Considering that the capitalization of the arrear
interest has become a matter of necessity, and
that the 500,000 dollars are sufficient fur that object
in the approaching financial year, to cover the current
interest of 3* per cent., I have, after mature delibe-
ration, determined to meet the Minister's offer to capi-
talise, deeming the opportunity a fitting one for bringing
bins into reasonable terms, and I trust the committee
will agree in the propriety of my so doing.
" Supposing a continuance of order and tranquillity,
the next three or four months will furnish evidence of
the intention of the Administration towards the bond-
holders. Should the result he unsatisfactory, it will
then be for the committee to determine the steps to be
pursued. (Signed) " H. J. LORD."
Hero follows the tranelatien of the letter addressed
by the Minister of Finance to Mr. Lord :
" Caracas, Bth June, 1851.
" Sir,—We have received in our department your
letter of the 21st ult., inclosing the documents marked
Noe. 1 and 2, containing dates and observations about
the Foreign Debt of the Republic, both active and de-
ferred, by which it appears that there is owing to your
constituents, 1,200,915 &liars for interest upon
the active debt tip to April last, a sum which should not
have reached this magnitude, if it had not been for
the political convulsions of 1848 and 1849, whereby
Government was obliged to make use of almost the
entire fourth part of toe ordinary duties which lieu
been destined for the public credit. This situation un-
fortunately continues, and it has not been possible, up
to the present time, to cover the most urgent expenses
of the State. In consequence of this penury of the
national treasury, it will only be possible, during the
ensuing financial year, to dispose of the funds raised by the
extraordinary contribution, in order to satisfy the current
interest of the foreign and domestic debt, as also to any
payment that may be made on account of interest owing
at present to the foreign bondholders. His Excellency
the President of the Republic, wishing, however, to sa-
tisfy the national creditors, and to estahlish their confi-
dence in this administration, will be ready to enter into
some arrangement to facilitate the gradual liquidation of
the above sum, so as to yield, in the meanwhile, a
moderate interest, to be paid punctually, along
with the current interest, remitting the whole to Lou-
don as you indicate. With regard to the 12,5001. now
in the Bank of England, it shall be placed at your dis-
posal, to liquidate taerewith the interest duo from the
Ist of April to the 30th inst., in order that we may
begin on the Ist of July a new account relatively to the
past and the future. And in order that there may be
no delay in this business, I am ready to confer with you
on the subject as often as you may wish, until the final
settlement of the matter.

- - -
DAYS
MARLBRO'-STREE
'n
CAUTION TO CABMEN.—Joseph C'liilcott, a cabal
employNo
Northampton-street,
ha
mo
pf
tsolnr
sSt
rheae
Oldc b
Kent-road,
proprietor, ,
wNaosr tlaarn
broughtt o 11:"t o'°.tetykree:
Hardwick, charged with being drunk, driving with
badge, and leaving his horse and cab unattended. 6
Police-constable Steele, C division, deposetltnhhtsoatictvria t
ittohli3oe,
previous night, about half-past twelve o'clock.
prisoner in Little Windmill-street, in a state of i
about twenty yards from his horse and cab. He wenteuPbsi
him and asked him for his badge. The prisoner said
, "reen.
lost it. Witness then took the horse and cab to the lace
yard, and the prisoner to the station. At the latterig biA
he was searched, and the badge produced was found
pocket. esterdy,
Mr. Shaw stated that the prisoner drove for hiln Y--ust
that was his first day. He produced the licence t' d the
fendant gave him when he entered his employ' and
number contained in it oid not correspond with the ;''" gr.
on the badge. The number on the licence is 5,59u*r with.
Shaw added that the horse he entrusted the prisonehe
cab
was a valuable young horse, without a blemish, and t
was
The p ris nearly new. hisb
oner in defence said he picked up the badge
night ; he lost his ~,wn a month ago. r that
Mr. HARDWICK said it was fortunate for the prisoned any
he was seen by the constable before he had cetnraitte,f the
serious damage to the horse and cab, or to the necks
public. Such fellows as the prisoner must be Inader,tay eio
ample of; by driving with a false badge every lac'"? ere,
afforded him in robbing the public, more especially *for by
who were not acquainted with the " dodges" Practise eefore'
' cabmen in London. The sentence of the Court, tia
witted
was that the prisoner, as a caution to others, be co,inwor•
to the House of Correction for two months, with Bard
,717,4/0,
JIRS. SINCLAIR'S VATIIvEt. 111UA,A--
NEW BEETHOVEN ROOMS' boo'
It must have been exceedingly gratifying to the
ends
cil3o
„neat.
mentioned lady to have witnessed the troops of filen
yesterday rallied round her on the occasion of bet g"ottish
Her well• known talents as a delightful exponent of Scottie
song, and Miss Sinclair's great reputation as alci-eet l?‘
pianist, would of themselves have been quite int lio;
attract a numerous audience, but with the names 0, sea
Bassano and Ransford, Messrs 111`lienzie, W10°39130'
could suti'l3 h
Jules Stockhausen in the programme, no one A d such
other than a musical treat of the highest order. ble°
it was. The tasteful manner in which Mrs. Sinclair ,"„-ifed
the melodies of Scotland cannot be too highly,
and the same remark may apply to her daughter's i.,`"'A," psi°
execution of a fantasia on the piano. Song by Msvif,
and Ransford, and solos on the violin sand viol....h)ce; fefi
Messrs. M‘lienzie and Hausmann, tended to
hours away most agreeably. The last-mentioned
is an excellent performer on the violincello and it vl",,- ert,"
doing
him an injustice were it not observed that he en
fcase
himself to the utmost straining every nerve in his
ul efforts to please the most formidable phalanx ;010
f airest portion of creation it has ever been our good ungal
to see collected under one roof. It has been rather och
lantly remarked, that ladies are hard to please, and ,11
aaos
is really the case the approving smiles which ever ttilti"e
co
greeted the efforts of all the artists engaged must will
sidered as a fair criterion of their abilities, an" linwlgO n -
doubt imbue them (at least the gentlemen) with tee- -
the greatest self satisfaction.

" I am, &c.,

(Signed) " PEDRO C. GELLINEAII."
The English Funds have been a little firmer, but
there is not much doing. Consols have been 96i for
Transfer and 961 for Account. The New Three-and-a-
Quarter p-r Cents. have realised 98i 4, and the Three
per Cents 97/1 to Bank Stock has been at 2151 to
216. Exchequer-bills have been 50s. to 535., and India
Bonds 625. premium. Consols now are 96i for
Money and 96i for Account.
Foreign Stocks have been very inactive. Mexican
remai❑ at 30i to Portuguese Four per Cents. have
been at 34k. Russian Four-and,a- Halt per Cents. have
been at 104. Brazilian Old Bonds have been quoted
90 to Danish Stock is at 76k. Dutch Four-and a-
Half per Cents. have been 934.
Railway Shares have been fluctuating a good deal,
but the tone generally is firmer. We notice a rally in
Great Northern, Great Western, Lancashire and York-
shire, Blackwall, North-Western, Midland, North Staf-
ford, Suuth•Eastern, East Lancashire, arid York and
Berwick.
French Shares are very quiet.

PRICES OF BRITNO FU ONENDS O'CLOCK.
B Ink Stock
3 ~.ar Cent. Rodueon Anna,
3 nor cent.. (inn Ro1:4 Ann tj t7,.t,,,...,
....., 961/2%
3 per Cent. Annuities, 1726 ...
N ..Yi S.A. per 1.,:ni.. 'Anna . .. 98.5.‘ th 3/4
Lo -;.g Anne. to ex;;ireJan.lB6o 7 7 7-16
kdia Bondl,, I,OOOL 62 p
Ditto under 1,000/........ 62 p
South Sea Stock
Ditto Old Annuities
0.,1i;,u1s rot Account
-.xchaquer .Bille. 1,,,, d.
1,000/.
500/.
Small. ..

CLOSING
PRICES.
216
9714
9634 i
961,E
98%
7 7-16
62 p
62 p
10674
96%
96N
53 p
53 p
53 p

ONE CLOSES G
PRICES OF FOREIGN FUNDS. O'CLOCK PRICES.
Brazilian Bonds, 5 per Cent. .. 9O i, 90 90
Ditto, Small
Danish 80nd5,1825,3 per Cent.
Mexican, • per Ct., ex Jan. Coupe —
Ditto, Account
Portuguese b per Cents.
Ditto, 4 per Cent.
Russian Bonds .....
Ditto. 414, per Cent
Dividends on the above payable in. London.
Belgian, 41/2 per Cent.......... 93•Y4 933

LLOYD'S SHIPPIN G.-( THIS DAY .)

finLe.ONDON, JULY 22.—Wind at noon E., light breeze and
FowEY, JULY 21.—Wind N.W.—Arrd. Reyal Adelaide,
Quebec.
w• ,1
FALMOUTH, JULY in- N.—Arrd. Colon, Bahia.
CAERMARTHEN.—Arrd. Ocean, Quebec.
WIHTEHAVEN.—Arrd. George, Antigua.
CLYDE.— Sid. Hudson, New York; Runnymede, New_
foundland.
QuEENsTowx, JULY 2'.— Wind N.Y.—Arrd. Dominica,
Quebec Off port, Lavinia, Porto Rico.
MAYAGEsSEy, JULY 21.—The Ann and Mary, Charles-
on the Jaw town to L iveßockrpool, has put in with damage, having struck
CHRISTIANSAND, JULY B.—The Re4olution, of Blyth,
Newcastle to Copenhagen, has been assisted in with loss of
foremast, spars, &c.

NEWPORT, JULY 21.—Wind W.—Arrd. Eliza, Jenkins,
St. John's, New Brunswick.
GRIMSBY, Jut 21. The Helena, of and for Irswich, has
put in with considerable damage to
stern and quarter, from
contact with the liel4e, of Sourh Shields, off the Spurn.
COWES, JULY 21.—Wind W.—Arrd. Unica
vannah. Hega, Ha-

OFF TEIONMOUTH.--LOyesey' St. Mary's, Nova Scotia.
PLYMOUTH, JULY 21. Win
Swan River. d W.N.W.—SId. Minden,

SOUTH-EASTERN RAILWAY.
Gross traffic receipts for passengers
and goods, week ending July 19, 1
1851 *** "' ••• £19,611 8
Ditto, July 20, 1850 ••• 15,00 G
4 /
... £4,605 4

Increase in 1851 ...
London Terminus, July 22, 1851.

DEAL, JULY 21.—Wind W.S.W.—Arrd. Halifax, Wright,
Calcutta ; Devereux, Colombo ; Cumberland, Dairon, Deme-
rara; Agnes, Burgess, Jamaica;
Agnes, Islett, Honduras;
Edward Bilton, Crozier, St. John's, New Brunswick. Sld.
Robert Small, China; Hotspur, Agincourt, and Claudia,
Calcutta; General Hewitt, Sidney.
PORTSMOUTH, JULY 21. Wind W. —A rrd. Henry Duncan,
Badcock, Quebec. Sid. Owen Glendower, Cape.
Ea
uLnictv,EßbßoroeorLt:
Abbots Reading, Valparaiso; Barnet,
Wylie, Buenos Ayres; Concordi2, Don, Antigua; Favourite,
Callao;
;1. 2 ind N.N.w., fresh.—Arrd. Ed-
Prout, Porto Rico; Wataga, New York; Clyde, Margaret
Ann, and Phcenix. St. John's, New Brunswick; Plantage-
net, Panola, Mars, and Lady l3ulwer, Quebec ; Alice (1111,
MontPrißee Edward's Island • Charles Chalo-
ner, Jersey; New Orleans, Devonport, and
i; elaall ;
a ba Fancy,ran '
Guiva, Apalachicola ; Ganges, Savannah ; George A. Hopley,
Charleston; Lord George Bentinck, Quebec. Sld. Hopewell,
Monte Video; Robert A. Parke, Rio Janeiro; Alcyon, Ba-
tavia ; Georgia, Savannah. Off port, Onward, Hero, and
Ph ilopontas.
jggsZY, JULY 2'.—Wind W.S.W.—Arrd Alice, Cuba.
PILL, JULY 21.—Wind W.N.W.—Arrd. Ireland, Olive
Branch, Five Sisters, and Victoria. Quebec.
BRISTOL, JULY 20 —Wind N.W.—Arrd, Neptune, Havan-
nah ; Susan and Sarah, Miramichi. 2 lat. Glenelg, Cleve-
land, St. Vincent's; Bellona, Thompson, New York; British
Merchant, Dalhousie, Ocean Queen, British Queen, and Prince
of Wales, Quebec.
GLOUCRSTEV, JULY 9.l.—Arrd. John, Ricbibucto.
OFF NEWPORT.—Elden, Moon, Quebec for Chepstow.

THE PEACE CONGRESS.—(THIS DA`t:i.nce
Peace Congress, held last year at Frankfort, and til';ng;
journed to London, commenced its sittings this in.,..,°-„,licste',;
Exeter Hall The chair was taken by Sir David Pr'oactilo
The vast hall was filled with delegates from all parts, roper
whom were great numbers of foreigners. A great gocietl
tion (.f the English delegates were members of the oitot*
of Friends. The side galleries were crowded With a tbs
most of whom were ladies, and round the presiden't ambled
platform, the leaders of the peace movement were anode'.
in great numbers, among whom were the principal
of tne party in the House of Commons. 10/3
; tbe
REUNION DES ARTS.—Yesterday evening ;beiges
e-
verit of
and last soiree of the summer season was given by
cellent society at 27, Queen Anne-street. fhe the
and select company was so numerous that every Itrousici,
spacious apartments was occupied. The choice of t"'nf~yhtc
selection was most judicious, for the perforraanceitooP4
by its own members this society is so celebrated,- forefilb,
the numerous attendance of our own as vieli„ra-aatne
artists, we noticed, Miss Day, Miss Mary Rose, mads,'„
make, Miss Magner, Miss Lairnia, Mrs. txo
Verdavainne, Madame end M. Tourneur, Messrs- Chatter'
Gregc''
Day, Schmidt, the two brothers Liitgen, Frederick 4
tan, Wiisterman, Mr. Herbert, J. Thomas, Herr.
cher&
Mr. Case, Herr C. Haag, Kempf, and M. De la 11311 tertairt
&c., who severally contributed their best to the enlace
ment, and who de,ervedly received the deafening apP,citil°
the elegant company. Lachner's quartet was most
sitely performed by Herr Guilt-nick, Day, and the t 05
thers Lutgen. Herr H. Lutgen's solo on the violencelw_,
II as M. RanchersY.
as w.H__
most enthusiastically encored,otieed
•
the violin. Amongst the distinguished visitors we 04 Dif
the veteran General Dembinski, attended by some 7, the
companions in arms. Between the first and second pat tbo
Wrallacm,_
Hun. secretary to the Society (Mr. Detkens) addresvtioe.
compauy, mentioning that it is to the indefatigable egos IS'
of Messrs. Geffrie and Gollmick that the society is chit d'ati'
debted for its foundation, and alluded to the merits obias'
lity of it, as tending to the co-operation and joint cord It
lion of some of our best vocal and instrumental artiateptt
would be supe.tiaous to add that the evening passe,d„p°apd
éclat, and with every gratification to the commit;
the members. Let us hope that such an exceuvr—nglis,
ciety will nut want staunch supporters amongst the '
oNf theß ANK
at istocracy.
proprietorsop ofAIISTbRAkLIA. Ptiti!
the offices 38, Old ti this an was
e Esq..
U meetingNlo
—hTldheyest-er°','lltilte

MARRIAGE IN HIGH LIFE.--Yesterday the mar-
riage of the Hon. George E. Lascelleii, third son of the Earl
of Harewood, with Lady Louisa Murray, only daughter of
the Earl of Mansfield, was Solemnised at Highgate Church,
on which occasion the sacred edifice was crowded by the most
respectable inhabitants of the neighbourhood.

chair. The report
jsrtraa(
nitaects
tsthr edaetut
rtiiCn)
egi t bus
t,
hßei
eßsaarsootofkysteh:r
,61ta Oorkod
tte
increased at all its bthe
present satisfactory condition reflected much credit oPecco °
zeal
and ability of the officers generally. The CO
,ld t„11,
the Australian colonies had been well supported' „,ret°"o
trade had every indication of being healthy and Pi`,'","lare
The result of the accounts enabled the directors to ee-pr
dividend for the half-year at the rate of 6 per cent•,Eietbei
nunt on the entire paid-up capital of the bank, Ogre()
with a bonus of lOs. per share on the 32,000 paid:°h`at tbAeig
of the third series. It appeared from the accounts '- proPio
was a balance at the present date of undivide"ated
amounting to 70,1791., and the reserve fund nelf-,a oftho
81,8':4/.—Mr. J. Robinson, in moving the ad019t1,",,,
report, congratulated the proprietors on the prospr"liad,
which by gi:it
bank, and upon the excellent arrangements
to such satisfactory results.—This was seconded thtit hg
Maclntyre, upon which the chairman observed,,„"t of t,"-ti
business of the past year had been fully equal to t-b-,a bee
preceding year, and the bad debts of the past year:that tot:'
very trifling. In answer to questions it was sta."o",, as o
amount of Government stock they held was the eir on I°,h•
that time twelve months. They had in all 590,00'::riag "nci
in this country. The report was adopted, the retied, Bao
rectors rectors re-elected, the dividend and bonus dec''''" rs '
after a vote of thanks to the chairman and direct°
meeting separated. goo;
BRUTAL MURDER AT MANCHESTER.--.°11" a poll,fr,
eay morning, about rive o'clock, the attention o'r,cheit`eti
fficer on duty in Back Irwell-street, Ti,„-proce4
was attracted to sounds of distress which appeareo,Vihter•-nt
from a cellar. He instantly burst open the door, and serf_°-A0
the place, found a man, named James Wick, a' far 7,4
from Burton-upon-Irwell, belabouring a wornao,„ce
laid on the floor, in a most brutal manner, her4peongo
covered with blood and her habiliment, saturate,' to be ct,
out. Upon a bed in the place lay what appeare, the he.".x,
corpse of another wenian, terribly disfigured abou,"„ed
and covered with blood. The officer instantly seitotaie
and got him off the woman, but was unable to Intl `vas ov„a
hold; the fellow flew hack to his occupation, a,"„,„`As foe:t.
secured on the arrival of another police
-officer. Iti',,,-.09;
that the woman on the bed still breathed, and en-t the,rer
moved to the Royal Infirm ,ry, but died before she e;here be
the other woman was removed to the same place, ;tat %.4
wounds were attended to, and hopes are entertaioeumsa
will recover, though her injuries are great. The and ",
brought up at the Borough Court the same mortene,' in theeer°o
mended until Wednesday. There is at present no but aa to
formation as to the cause of the ruffian's conductt, lasol3„g
position in iife of the women is degraded, were „ontiw
believe that it arose out of circumstances of a corresr
character.

MARRIED.
On the 19th inst., at St. James's, Westminster,
Colonel John Eardley of her 11'3,Je't.5
Regiment, sun of the late Bishop of Nova Scot's'
Selina, daughter of Sir Frederic Thesiger, 11I.P

a 59r
DIED.
On the 19th inst., in Upper Wimpole-street, Templet
Francis N. Rogers, Esq , Q.O , Bencher of the Inner
p4l3s
_arete:
and Recorder of Exeter.
On the 19th inst., George Scott, Esq., Ladbroke"ter'
est
Notting-hill, aged 75. otto
On the 18th inst., at Upper Bedford-place,
Lady Mackworth, relict of the late Sir D. Mackwortu

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Tuesday, July 22, 1851.