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LONDON, SATURDAY. JUNE 7, 1851

Upon a division, this motion was negatived by 230
against 29.
A division then took place upon Sir F. THESIGER'S
amendment, which was rejected by 166 against 130.
The CHAIRMAN was now ordered to report progress.
The House having, on the motion of Lord NAAS, gone
into Commit:ee upon Home-made Spirits in Bond,
The CuAiccELLort cf the EXCHEQUER moved, with a
view of getting rid of the question, that the Chairman
leave the Chair; but, upon a division, his motion was
negatived by 140 against 123, and the resolutions were
agreed to.
The Lodging Houses Bill and the Common Lodging
Houses Bill were committed.
The other business having bcen disposed of, the
House adjourned at Half-past Two o'clock until Thurs-
day next.

Ministerial defeats, especially on fiscal subjects,
have become matters of such common occurrence, that
they have long since ceased to excite astonishment,
almost to attract attention. Sir CLIAR,LES WOOD
still perseveres with dogged obstinacy in the course
en which he has entered. Reason and argument are
alike thrown away upon a person who will not allow
himself to be influenced by the one, or condescend to
answer the other, Indeed it would almost appear as
if he experienced greater gratification in resisting a
proposition based on justice than one that possessed
no such claims to public support, and that
he desired that the financial system which he was
selected to administer should be consistent with itself
—inequitable in every particular.
With such views and opinions we cannot feel sur-
prise at the persevering hostility which he exhibited
towards the Home-made Spirits in Bond Bill,
braught forward by Lord NAAS on behalf of the
Irish and Scotch distillers and the spirit dealers of
both countries, to remove a crying grievance under
which these persons had been some time suffering.
The demand for redress was one that should hare been
immediately conceded. The petitioners claimed
no peculiar advantages for themselves, no remission
1 of duty on their own productions, no increase on those
of their foreign competitors—nothing, in filet, that
could be tortured into a desire for " protection."
All they asked for was "a clear stage and no favour ;"
but they very naturally objected to being placed at
an enormous disadvantage when compared with their
colonial rivals.

The point in dispute is so very simple, that with
a mind differently constituted from that of our
Financial Minister no doubt or difficulty could
have arisen. The duty on foreign and colonial
spirits is only charged on the quantity and quality
brought into actual consumption, that on home-made
spirits on the quantity measured into the spirit re-
ceiver or worm's-end, and at the original strength,
without any allowance being made for waste, evapo-
ration, or the mellowing process carried on by time.
The Irish and Scotch distiller.) require that the duty
shall be assessed at the time it is payable, that it
shall only be levied on the amount which they can
make available and bring into the market ; anti the
mere fact that such is the mode in which
all others are treated, speaks trumpet-tongued in their
favour.

It is not merely thes distillerst or spirit.dealers who
are injured by the
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before the public.
The Excise regulations in question, however, acted
in the other direction. As the
as direct incentives
duty was levied on the quantity and strength of the
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to bring into consumption in that form. Any
so
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former Surveyors-General of the Excise,
five per cent. in strength, and a similar amount in
quantity. These losses might to at least
gbt be patiently submitted
to if they were
only sustained on the article itself,
but it was rather too bad that the original injury
should be more than doubled, by the payment of
duty on what was utterly destroyed, through
leakage, soakage, or evaporation. The improvement in quality would, under e.n equitable and judicious I

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don Cemetery Companies, with a view to close up the
graveyards in the metropolis, but nothing definite had
yet been done.
Their Lordships then adjourned until the 16th,
In the House of Commons a discussion arose on the
nomination of the Property-tax Committee, which ter-
minated in an agreement to adjourn the debate until
Friday next, not, as Lord J. RUSSELL said, with the
view of getting rid of the question, but in order that
time should be afforded for arranging a Committee, the
CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER promising to lend his
assistance.
IThe House then went again into Committee upon the
Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill.
In the second clause, prohibiting the assumption or
use by any person other than a person thereunto au-
thorised by law in respect of an archbishopric, &c., of
the United Church of England and Ireland, of the name
or title of archbishop, &e., of any place in the united
kingdom,
Mr. REYNOLDS moved the omission of the parenthesis,
"under any designation or description whatsoever,'
these words not being, he said, in the Act of 1829.
Lord J. RUSSELL opposed the amendment, which, on
a division, was negatived by 107 to 38.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY then moved to add to the same
clause a prohibition of obtaining or procuring hereafter
from Rome, or of Publishing or putting in use within
any part of the United Kingdom, any bull, rescript,
&c., or any other instrument or writing for the purpose
of creating any archbishop, &e., with titres derived
from places belonging to the Crown of the United
Kingdom.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL could not consent to this
amendment.
The amendment was supported by Sir P. THESIGER,
Mr. FRESHFIELD,.Mr. HENLEY, Mr. J. STUART, and Sir
R. INGLIS ; and opposed by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL,
the SOLICITOR-GENERAL, and Sir G. GREY. Upon a
division, it was negatived by 133 against 129—a ma-
jority of 4. 1
Colonel SIBTHORP moved that the penalty instead
of 1001., should be 5001., with imprisonment until the
penalty be paid, to be followed by banishment for life.
The amendment was rejected by 199 against 63.
Sir F. THESIGER moved, to add at the end of the
clause—after the enactment that the penalty shall be
recovered in the same way as penalties are recoverable
under the Emancipation Act—the words "or by action
of debt at the suit of any person, with the consent of the
Attorney-General or Lord Advocate.
The MASTER of the ROLLS objected to this addition,
the practical effect of which would be to transfer the
duty and responsibility of the ATTORNEY-GENERAL to
other persons.
The amendment was defended by Mr. WALPOLE,
Mr. DISRAELI, and Lord J. MANNERS; and opposed
by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL, Mr. BETHELL, and Lord
J. RUSSELL.
The discussion was interrupted by a motion by Ur.
REYNOLDS that the Chairman report progress, which
was, however, negatived by 306 against 41.
Mr. REYNOLDS then moved that the Chairman leave
the chair.
Lord J. RUSSELL, in very temperate language, com-
plained of the interruption as uncourteous, more parti-
cularly as he had, for the convenience of Irish Members,
consented to postpone the Bill for a fortnight.
Admiral BERKELEY declared that in the whole course
of his long Parliamentary experience he had never known
a more forbearing majority, or a more factious opposi-
tion then that led by Mr. REYNOLDS; adding, that the
rules of the House were made by gentlemen for the
guidance of gentlemen, and if any had come among them
who could not be guided by these rules it was high time
to alter them.
Mr. KEOGH and Colonel KNOX protested against such
langugo as insulting.
Admiral BERKELEY diselahned any intention to offer
insult-

Another assurance of the solicitude with which her
MAJESTY'S Government regards the question of in-
tramural interments, especially in reference to the
metropolis, was given last evening by Lord CARLISLE
in answer to an inquiry by Lord MONTRAGLE. We
have listened so repeatedly to those declarations, that
we find it difficult to evince anything like patience,
more particularly when the dangers arising from the
continuance of the old system are, as at present, so
enormously multiplied. Under ordinary circumstances
the porpetration of the practice complained of, that of
burying the dead of a great city within its own immediate
precincts, is a fact so terrible as a means of increas-
ing the amount of the annual mortality, by engen-
dering artificial 'diseases, that the journalist finds
himself compelled to reiterate his warnings in spite of
general apathy and considerable opposition. When,
however, the population of the metropolis is being
daily enhanced by such an extraordinary number of
visitors, attracted hither by the fascinations of the In-
dustrial Exhibition, it must be manifest that the
perils of the custom particularized must be
proportionately increased. With an atmosphere
contaminated from so many pernicious sources,
with a supply of water poisoned by so
many villanous pollutions, with an elaborated yet
still insufficient drainage, with a river subjected
to tidal influences so that its current is agitated to
and fro through the very centre of the capital in the
broiling sunshine, and replete with eery imaginable
species of abomination, the citizens of London and
Westminster have to respire the malaria exhaled
from the overcrowded churchyards, that direful
exhalation which rises day and night from the
decomposing remains of mortality. While these
things are permitted to continue the returns
of the Registrar-General must necessarily be more
or less beyond the average total, the lungs of the
multitude perpetually breathing in those invisible
particles of destruction which reek from the cor-
rupted and corrupting soil of the burial-grounds.
Again and again have these hideous truths been de-
monstrated beyond the possibility of contradiction.
Again and again have the members of the Adminis-
tration acknowledged the reasonableness of the de-
mands made in regard to this peculiar evil by the
advocates of sanitary improvement. Yet, with the
promise extorted from the Government of speedy
and comprehensive innovations, we have, month after
month, and year after year, found our hopes in the
matter repaid by continually recurring disappoint-
ments. Even with a Bill relating to the subject,
passed successfully through both Houses of the Im-
perial Parliament, we failed to recognize the slightest
change for the better in regard to the system of me-
tropolitan interment. Therefore it is that we have
inveighed so repeatedly against those individuals who
reveal a predisposition to accept as realities the spe-
cious assurances of the Cabinet.
From the language employed by the Earl of
CARLISLE, only yesterday, some notion may be
formed by those who have hitherto been unobservant
of the course pursued by her MAJESTY'S Ministers
of the endless procrastination under the most specious
pretexts indulged in by the members of the Govern-
ment. Now, as heretofore, we are told by the Noble
Lord that the Board of Health, in consequence of
directions given by the Treasury, are in communica-
tion with several cemetery companies as to the terms
on which they are to obtain possession of
those cemeteries. And this is received as a
piece of very startling information! Why, we
have known the existence of these negotiations
for a time by no means inconsiderable ! We have
known that communications of the character intimated
have been opened, and from the length of their con-
tinuance we have come at last to regard them as little
less than interminable. Yet this inestimable scrap of
information is not the only one vouchsafed to u 3 last
evening by the Noble Lord the Earl of CARLISLE.
He adds, with a candour and clearness for which we
cannot possibly be too grateful, that he is in no man-
ner acquainted with the present position of these ne-
gotiations. " They involve," he adds, " financial
operations of considerable magnitude, and require
considerable attention." As if we were not already
sufficiently acquainted with the difficulties which
have to be conquered, difficulties the multiplicity of
which are demonstrated clearly enough by the count-
less delays of those intrusted with the negotiation.
We are satisfied, of course, of the perfect sincerity
with which the Noble Lord the Earl of CARLISLE as-
serts that he shares the expectation of seeing such a
measure brought into operation with the least possible
further postponement. The known benevolence of
the Noble Lord's good heart could not by pos-
sibility but he thus inspired by sentiments
of solicitude in reference to a matter so intimately
connected with the health and morality of the popu-
lation. Convinced, nevertheless, as we are of this,
we cannot rest satisfied with a sense of the good in-,
tentions of an individual member of Government,
accompanied as those good intentions on his part are
by the indifference revealed by the rest of the Ad-
ministration. The alterations required are by this
time surely matters of sufficient notoriety to leave
the Cabinet in no doubt whatever as to their
precise character. The Bill, indeed, already men-
tioned pointed out very ably the exact nature of the
changes necessary in reference to the metropolitan in-
terments, though it failed altogether to enforce those
changes, as was erroneously anticipated. Further de-
lays in the carrying out of the desired reforms are in
no respect whatever excusable, especially when it is
considered that public opinion, the convictions of the
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BOTANICAL SOCIETY OF LONDON.—The ordinary
meeting of this society was held last even'ng at the society's
rooms, 20, Bedford-street, Strand; John D. Salmon, Es., in
the chair. The secretary announced several donations to the
library received since the last meeting. The continuation of
Mr. Stock's paper, " On the Botany of Bungayi Suffolk,"
was read. The chairman announced that the socety's ex-
cursion would take place on the 20th inst.
APOTHECARIES'-BALL. --- The following are the
science
practise,
Costerton, 0 ~__
road ; Horan
Freman Wright,gentlemen who passed their examination in the
practice of medicine, and received certificates to
Great Yarmouth ; Charles Brettingham, Finchley-
June 5, 1851: Horatio William
kieorge Anthony Wright, Stockwell ; John
L. Ludon; Stephen Orlon Lane, Bran4ton,
Devonshire.
naniesoaft
Thursday,

" Other members of the two Chambers have been
with your Hon. President before his Majesty. It would,
therefore, be improper to continue those explanations
until those members all have made known the result
' of their interview with his Majesty."
The Illoniteur publishes the treaty of trade and
commerce between Belgium and Sardinia. The rati-
fications were exchanged on the 15th ult.
'[he itioniteur says
" The Cabinet of Turin has notified to the King's Go-
re.rnment that the commerce of Belgium shall enjoy the
reduction of the tariff granted to France by the addi-
tional convention corieluded on the 24th May last be-
tween that power and Sardinia, and which do not appear
in the Sardo-Belgian treaty of the 24th of January,
1851; that treaty came into vigour on the Ist June of
this year."