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London, England, 1851-08-05 00:00:00

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when the question was per. What hope could they ti-
tertsin from the proceedings of the Commissioners when
one of their own body in that House so acted?
Mr. CARDWELL said, that nothing was more cora-
rda.on than to avoid giving the House the trouble of a
after a person had placed his own senti.
—ent4 upon record, and allowed his proposition to be
*Wired.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped
I lhle at Roe. Gentlemen would not obstruct the progress of
business by personal allusions.
Clauses 2 sad 3 were then agreed to.
On clause 4,
Sir BENJAMIN HALL nv,ved the omission from
„
e 3 clause of those words which empowered the Corn-
sioners to re-invest in the purchase of land the
eY they obtained by the sale and enfranchisement of
In now in their possession.
been E. DENISON said, the objection ought to have
made on the second reading of the Bill, es it up-
PBill,lied to the principle rather than to the details of the

Mr. FORSTER objected to the investiture of the
money of the Commissioners in land.
Mr. GOULBURN said, the House had all% sly em-
Powered the Commissioners to borrow 800,0001. on the
wearily of their land, and yet the Hon. Gentleman
2lktli oal
prevent their requiring land.
sou
~lie SOLICITOR-GENERAL explained that not en
acre of land would be acquired under the Bill.
forAtter some further discussion the gallery was cleared
1 a division, but none took place, and the amendment
11,itlegativ wi!hou; a division.
he Committee then divided en the clause when there
"ec(ared—
,
For the clause
Against it . ---
Majority ...
Clause 6.
ANSTEY objected to the clause as ambiguous—
for Was that by the Government. He should there-
at(' move that the Chairman report progress unless the
'11‘81,6 was Postponed.
pitte'o gallery was cleared for a division, but none took
1.131 e ' the motion being negatived without a division.
clause was then agreed to.
Clause 7 was also agreed to.
Clause 8.
Co
ills gill
Opponents and the Government.
. eiLL contended that the clause was intended
ibmPeet the whole of the legislation 01 last year, and
Were the typographical errors proposed to be amended
esigned originally to stand fir the purpose of in-
‘e slag the power of the ecclesiastical body.
AGLIox BY asked whether it would not be more
outrageous
to leave the Estates Commission unfet-
str!'d2 thought, therefore, it would be better to
10 strike
egetl utete clause altogether. If, however, they were
to
make such dh by rules, it should be imperative on them
lora r*er E. VENISON suggested that as the clause was not
made
necessary, in consequence of the amendments
the Bill, it would be better to omit it altog
r., ether.
After some further conversation,
he SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, that he would
Persevere with the clause. He believed that they
eb• get a better security tor the attainment of the
41J:et they had in view by adopting the amendment of
lion. Member for Winchester (Mr. B. Carter).
atSuir B. HALL Complained of the witheirawal of the
sees.
le) which would afford the only security to the lea-
AGLIONBY concurred in the views expressed
'due Hon. Member fur Mar) lebone.
,)101-lel SIB /11ORP said a few words.
vit 2. HALL said he would move that the words
atr'raellesiastical Commissioners," in the Bth clause,
.be
14)44 °tit, and the words " Church Estates Commis-
I substituted.
elrau e Committee then divided on the motion " that
se 8 stand part of the Bill," when there appostred—
For the clause ••• ••• ••• a
Against it

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Til Majority against the clause ... —43
One clause was then struck out.
rree,edthe 9th clause (the interpretation clause) being
kr, j-
ishi h A. SMITH moved an amendment, the effect of
rei:it,"e understood was to bring the Ecclesiastical Com-
laise "dare under the control, in their dealings with
Tiaveoeerett)hiztheuneaicattCi,:euch Estates Commissioners.
dthmeenntdivide..d., whe.n..there..a:pp3le34ared--
4gainst it
'4 Majority against the amendment ... —l9
atnendment was lost.
Isl.; clause was then agreed to.
affI3'•CARTER then proposed to make the. follow-
ttiecdiion to clause 8 in the Billi—e The said Corn-f
het 13,,11eta shall, from time to time, give to any oneino.
forka;:ejesty's principal Secretaries of State such
thes„',l°ll respecting their proceedings. or any part
glarees the said principal Secretary of State shall re.
Prie4 kid shall twice in every year send to one of the
Ptsoe Pal Secretaries of State a general report of their_
lin 4 (nngs under this Act, together with a schedulfe.no!
tealPtFneations for enfranchisement or purchasedo
thei
tertass of lessees; specifying the terms prophose
114,1°11 which such enfranchisement or pure aseisdhaelfl
84e6 s'7° etiscted, and, if refused, the special grour
4:1141114,m1; and every half-year such general reports
14 -11eid before bath Houses of Parliament within
Ise:vett:l: after the receipt of the same by such principal
bei State, if Parliament be sitting, or it Par-
"t' not sitting, then within six weeks after the
thereut."
the
suggPsted that the wordsor beforf
°. Match" 4,(iould be inserted iu the amendmens.
Ittd
Be addition and amendment were then read a first
QuetTnl trine and annexed to the Bill. •
t? th nsotion of Mr. CAYLEY the Act was limited
ssiirti-_e Years from the end of the present session of
etene
Btt ann
. IiALL proposed the addition of a clause to pre-
-B,4narl ecclesiastical
''stte:Zing leases, without the consent of the Church
tio4" SOLICITOR-GENERAL opposed the introduc-
titet °I
the clause as at variance with the general che-
er ss
The of the Bill.
The Cause was negatived without a division. _
•%s `-'sIAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained
7,;). to sit again this day at twelve o'clock.
tBs ei2untY Courts Further Extension Bill, and the
eetasci (I's, Tenure of Lauds (Ireland) Bill were post-
tir until this day at twelve o'clock.
' w
URQUHART expressed a hope that an oppor-
es4;ould be afforded to him of bringing before the
e the questions of which hehad given notice
tett44l:44 to the interference of this country with the
Vof Samos and the government of the Lebanon.
tltid,f3c°llnt PALMERSTON said ho could not give any
81481188 king which might interfere with the regular bu•
8 et the Rouse,
4 MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.
easenger from the Lords stand that their Lord-
eal
t agreed to the following Bills:
ht
%41811). &c., Contagious Diseases Prevention.
Bs4lelssioners of Railways Act Repeal.
licNavigation.
fll4 4 College Hospital (No. 2).
ItN°4l Land Company Dissolving.
Atlutness-bridge (No. 2).
441t1drilents to Dorward's Estate.
Zlh,`ll,fitnent to the Duke of Bridgewater's Estate.
' Fort-at Deer Removal. Sze.
THE HUNGARIAN PRISONERS.
hkoe,?(ll3. STUART then rose, pursuant to notice to
aje°t an bumble address be presented to Sher
htfase, for the list of any addresses to her Majesty, or
`ft starla,l9 to the Foreign-office, or petitions to the
`",„ tes-a°' Commons, on tae subject of the liberation of
he :1-Cx•OSSuth and his compatriots; with the names of
hats file
from which addressed and the number of sig.
BnerdBiattached to each of them, staang. also when
eub~eby a chairman on behalf of the meeting. That
Ned n " ',ad been frequently brought before tne. House,
&Ishestions had been addressed relative to irtttinoehnits
ttcl4: rend at the head of the Foreign D
t't the3tin4 to
the
captivity
these
In reply
knowiwhen the termination of tli'Paa tivit;
(issstiBe prisoners might b© expected.
I:lBlPialli4oh:pvseaouhldad been held out that Kossuth and_ his
h soon be ree, and he bopetd
sillss e°°ll hear from his Noble Friend tha il
those
e.‘4Bl'setlv°lBld not be dies p canted. For the sake of the_
"eld-is"e the TurkisahPG'lovernment he trusted such
11841 e ue the ease
WOUld
have been
A shorttime aeohaieseNlaombaletioFnriaetndaisl
puler received
might
ctlZlteleti `l4tof:l
blots where the
d with
e of Hungary
it would be hailed with
4444tielnfeeetluintgb8cilan w, as peopleere did . not think he was so
Frl e alight b cause of the liberation of those captives
to ii.ttsl's i„tioe e• He hoped, however, that his Noble
tAPhvseel7Lt'oiun Turkey would still be found superior
otilbe -"le and R • and that no objection
off. red to b. Russia,
h tt
whatso, LRSTON said he made no oppoai-
tk- tten expresso the motion of his Noble Friend. He
it4erhosent should' Itliinad
motion related opinion on the subject to which
he regretted that the Turkisht
tBri' eenAneeoeut „ave thought it right to re
in
that
Ttlrel?ty,
and
w, those who had taken refuge
.n
the
14kblih fieryie." had received from officers high
40‘,-.stous, had
cf protection and support.irkish
letoirlnetoo,:ile aware of what had made the T
Whi Y o'f_w eve from those engagements enteredu
lib
°r it=
offieers, and also neutralised the efforts
tkr,letiou of'?,and England were making to secure the
perti?es at leg prisoners. The long detention of these
votuseiat ,purse teYe was quite inconsistent with the inde-
pii
1111! to nidewehtiheeh Esunfland and France were emdea-
lens ed coal t tan to pursue. They had done
ell 0128, arid t, put an end to the captivity of those pri-
a,ur Ist of"). had received a positive assurance that
list, ti he the SePensber (which according to our style
}lee, lsth) those persons would be set at li-
.,,ery
r_enabled to quit the Turkish territory. He
,i'ibittpvit;t4ed.spl to believe that the assurance would not
,„tl was then agreed to.
•ttvetv,'"e adjourned at a quarter before One o'clock
th,, day.
the '• trocionl of r f rerttainde`
Chash paired with Mr. R. Richards for
e aeision.

ht11111,19-11G---; TRPIVS OP 'RE T—CILEILIES.—`V
trees
4;!14e-,;::nr'°Yed at present in the caTsehsecsoenain-
th:)fgre, ge trees of the Tuileries garden.
ears, and
th° Yolo, " age, some going back as far r.i 700
4tcON, and durinEvtlelery
, kn., , gelt 300,
20 years the earth in eachea Asee is
three following years they app
an
oitilt.teetjtelley then acquire fresh strength, and throw out
flogrOluintity of blossoms. It is this periodical change
N'a.ell:ent which has led to their longevity.—Gu/ig-
Z '4(l eh:g".
tkAtttie neellor of the Exchequer and Sir Francis
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