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mg them, they should only tender us mere
counteraa the machinations of those who, 16.;
'iced, prove themselves the true friends of Bonaparte
end the Pope, by meleing ouch attempts as are
vow made to excite and revive animosities which
were gradually comonsing, and whiCh world soon
subside: into a peas& state of tranquillity.---But
'we are again told, if yon epee to -the •Petition then
you arc bound to repeal the Test Aft ; if it be tight
to repeal the Test Mt, do it whether it he proper
or o tti comply with the prayer of the Petition ;
it it be wrung to repeal, Then' let not that pre-
vent you from the consideration of the pressing
of the Catholic Petition ; surely there is no coat.
parison between the two emirs. These disputes
have long subsisted in Ireland, and no mischief
may have arisen from them ; is it just to rejedi the
Catholic. Petition, not .from any demerits' of its
own, but become-another body may present a Pe.
titian it might not be fit eta. comply with'? What
system must then be retroTted to, if you I'Cjai
the Petition, laid disappoint the hopes of so
"large a portion cf • the connriunity ;
,will you
recur to the system of the reign of Queen
Anne ? After allowing the Catholics the means.
of acquiring property, would you. destroy the in.
ftuence that naturally attaches to it ? Would you
thus make them aliens' in their own country, ?
W ill
you expose yourselves to be reduced to the wretched'
alternsrive of haVing a populatiore without proper-
ty, or looe—er ithout the enjoyment of consti.
Naomi{ rights. I trust a wiser policy twill aired
your proceedings, anti that moderation 'will 'be.
get a spirit Which. a system restraint can. ne,
verproduce.. If riu favour the higher order of the
Cettolics, you will hate claims upon them that will
induce them to exert all their endeavours to inelio.
rare the spirit of tite lower Otiki3 01111'.'ir pctrotasion.
You have already cooceded much :. where is the
stinger to be dreaded drum conceding what remains ?
fc'w Catholic Peers are anxious to have seetsio
Parliament : What can you dread irem tbeir intro.
duelion into the'Legialeture ; or do you teally,lae.
lieve that any praCtieal advantage can be derived
(rim excludirz so smog a-Smother ? • By granting
their s*quest you would lose noming your,,,elves,
while they might appear to gain much ; and what
they gained in respett anti consitimoion among the,
lower classes woutl ceebie them to exert an influence
over them that might have the most beneficial tenden-
cy.
Ftom what Motive can you rejeft their prayer
Can you be seriously epprehenaive that if they-come
into this House they would attempt to persuade
you to abolish the hierarchy Would not' the can.
nary he the course of their cooduet ? 'Would not
every motive arid consideration induce, them ro show
t'reir respeft and attachment to the Government and,
the Constitution, The same ci.lijedions may be ap.
'Ord to the few who might get into the House of
Con rooms--' hey would tot vvgArd but not obstrutt the
view of Governinnt. The attempt to frustrate
tlr eli,:ets of the Peeitioneeust finally prove a v.:in
attempt ; it will be found an attempt. to resist the
nneontrorertible force
~of eVCIIIS. But what mis.
chief had arisen from the introduaion of 16 Peers
teom Scotland into this House, and de.; Members
from the same Lountry Into Toe arbor titiUji,i7c
lignent ? They, leo' e no* been sitting in both,
Houses for a eetoulye and in neither has any .416.
vidual of them attempted the
to
persuade Country
to substitute the Presbyterian, Religion in the
room of that established by the Laws of the Coon,
try. I May defy any Noble Lord to prove a
single instance to that or any similar effeet.—
On -the contrary, has the' Government anti the
Country ever 'met with more, zealous supporters
Where then is the ground of alarm at the introduc,
tion of No tar smaller a number of Irish Catholics
into the two Branches of the Legislature? What must
be the real feeling impressed upon their minds, and
upon the minds of the whole body of the Roman.
Catholic's, ileyeu refuse-to' entertain their Petition,
or examine the nature of their pretensions ?, From
what' can they coneeive that backwardness to arise
to adrait them to places of honour and of trust, but
from suspicion and distrust.; and what sentiment
can suspicion and distrust give rise to, but to similar
sentiments in their breasts tnwa.ds you ? but ter us
for a moment inquire, my Lords, into any of the
'risks or dangers that might arise from admitting
Roman Catholics to the enjoyment of such distinc-
tions. Let its again adVert to the number of Pres.
byteriaos who have filled such places. Have we
not seen and admired the predecessor of the Noble
Lord on the Woolsack 'fill with dignity and credit
to himself, end advantage to-the Public, the same
distinguished 'situation ; yet that Noble Lord was
educated a Presbyterian, as were many others,
among whom he might name many Of the Judges, a
Master of the Rolls, Secretaries of State, and other
high Officers ; were their attention or endeavoura
ever shirefed to any 'measure prejudicial to the Este.
Wished Chorch. In like manner numbers of the same
persuasion have been entrusted with high coin.
iisautls 14.111 in the Navy anti the Army,'have done
the highest•honour to themselves, and rendered the
most signal services to' ;their King and Country;
Lot never did any suspicion arise, that from their
seligious tenets they would be inclined to take ad—
, vantage of their power to the injory of our esta-
blisloneot in Church or State ? Why not give the
Same credit to, the principle 3 and integrity of the
Catholio-s ? Could a ttesitati.Yn to repose confidence
in them Arise from any tiring but long.rooted and
onrelicAing prejudice ? or to equally tnifounded and
tingensrous suspicion ? Have your Lordshipa'well
Cieighed the consequences that. must flew from the
operation of such attempts to degrade and (U.-spirit
the minds of any class of men ? Have they studied
the difference of conduit under which men at who
have high rewards and distindiuns set before them to
inflame their ambition, 'and aniniate their labours.
Idaw dlferent would the Views and the spirit
of a student of law be, if lie could entertain no
tope of ever reaching the high distinOion now
enjoyed by the Leatroot Lord on the Wool,
? Dies not much of his estimation' of him.
fe!f, and of the honour he attaches to his profea.
arise from that sinoc consideration. Suppose
tot a moment that the students of Lincoln's Inn
nod elf the Middle „Temple exclusively possessed
this t'cat ai.d animating prospett, and that those
of tut: lot et Temp:r were debarred from ever enter.
raining such proui pretensions, w your Lordships
1.)110i4 Yourielves its bcila ve that all three could devina

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them eves with equal spirit and ardour to their
proleastonalliursiiits ? ;Must not the Members ofe
the Inner Temple feel themselves comparatively
low and insignificant whenever they refledorr the
comparative insignificance of the objects to which
they are, allowed to aspire ? In the same manner may
it be observed of those. who embrace a military pro,.
fusion,. either in the Navy or the Army : Could a
young man, twin to the indulgence of liberal views,
and a liberal made of living, ever be brought to en.
dare 'the inconveniences, the hardships, and the many
offensive circumstances that must attend the situ.
Lion ot a MidshiPman, could he entertain no hope of
emerging from.. such a situation,' and of attaining
the envied heights' d distinction and fame ; and
would a spirited and high mieded youth ever bring
himself to brook such a loathsomesituation were
he debarred from imagieing that he might One day
rival the glory of. a Howe or a Nebion ! If, in the
Army a similar dis-spiriting distinetion was .to be
made between twoßegiments...a:it' the Officers of the
One were never to be raised
,beyond the - rank of
Colonelc,' while the' Officers of the other
,might
aspire to Generals and great Commanders, how dd.
ferent must be the feelings and the spirit by which
both 'must be admitted ; they Carnof feel themselves,
or lie: 'looked upon as the same race of beings.—
Apply, my Lirdit,2all the effects of such disparage.
menus to the me of the Irish Roman Catholics, and
your own breasts'most tell you what woks within
theirs. You exclude ;hem from all The high offices
of the State ; you forbid theM to aspire to any high
rank either in the Navy or Army. How differently
then must they feel from those whoa views and aM..
bitiun ate checked by no ouch marks of inferiority.
The sentiments that mast be engendered by such invi:
distinetioos and preferences may easily beton.
ceived. They must make him view his Country and
leis kulers in a tar different light, and with far
tereat sentiments from those that swell the breast of
the chosen race. What evil consequences must
arise :.lei such degrading distindioes may more
e.. be Imagined than 'expressed. It must be itn.
upon the minds of all.your Lordships .how
toe Cathoiic's roust feel as men when they refica,
04 OfitCO they !Mlt rifled, on their own ill.favoured
Witat can be fairly expected ,from men
who are thus deprived of all the inspiriting
advantages that are held out to the rest of their
,fellow,subleete? can they reasonably be expeded
tt.a be us went aced anxious in the Defence of their
:Country, and its Govctiltrieut, as those who were.
:taught to,,exoett so naL:ll more marhrd favour and
oda/Images ?It yvereftvothe3S eXpedt it. And is it
at a moment like the present, that such discoutage.
inentsltre he persisted 'lit On the 'contrary,
is it not a time, Wheri under ' every aspen, and
nin every motive the most cordiel mad conciliating
efforts should be matte to knit and bind 'together on
:the closest,Union, every, descriPtion of the Commu.
Externally we are menaced by; the Most ac.
Live and enterprising tue With whom we had ever
to contcod : with a foe whostpowei and resources:
cannot be contemplated without, apprehension and
awe. Vetter the. serious apprehension' of events that
may arise,' we. are in the daily habit of tailing down
the blessings of union in our Councils ; an-i• at such a
moment, and under sock visattnthr:4llol.6, 1a.% we adopt
MeaSUree, -or lid a part that proves us regardless of
the best means tat promoting anti strengthening that
unity of action and of council which we so anxious.
ly 'implore. Can we hastily and contemptuously
refuse to take into consideration the 'cleims.ot four
millions of fellow.subjats, whose cordial co.ope
ration must be, so essential at stieba crisis ? It is to
entreat your Lordships' attention to all these sire.
eumstances, that I have brought forward the,Mo.
don with which I am now going to conclude; a
Motion, whatever may be its fate, I shall ever re-
coiled with pride the honour and dittinetion I de.
rive from having been the person chosen to ifitro...
duce the subject, of it. I have endeavoured that it
should lose none of its effect from having fallen into
my hands, at least I have bestowed'upon it the best
efforts of my humble abilities. Under that con.
I teal no. small consolation, first, in. the
consciousness of having discharged a great dui'',
and. next, from the very kind and patient at.
tension with whlc!s'your Lordships have hollowed,
me while I was endeavouring to discharge it. The
Noble Lord here concluded a very able and argue_
mentive speech, of which we hie attempted but a
feeble outline, by moving the House, That they
immediately resolve themselveo into a Committee
to take the. Prayer of the Petition into consi.
deration."
Lord HATVXESBURY, in compliance with the
recommendation of the Noblellaron who had just .sat
'down, should state his sentiments upon the subject
sunder consideration with Out any deviation from that
moderation and temper which the Noble Lord desired.
lie bad to regret, however, that the Noble Baron,
in the concluding part of his speech, and even in the
early parts of it, had seemed to forget his own re.
'
commendation, and to have departed from that line
of moderation which he expeded to be observed by
others. He had particularly done Sc) in urging as
art argument in favour of his Motion, that rhe mea.
sure to which it pointed was one, which shall and
must be carried, notwithstanding any Opposition it
may be likely to meet in the present instance.
Lord GRENVILL/ here called the Noble Lord
to order for a gross misrepresentation of pia word*.
lid was in the CCCollealoo of the House, and threw
himself upon their Lurdshipa" protedion. He ap.
pealed to every honestman whether what he had
said wars nor, that the measure was one which, ac.
voiding to every principleareason, mint ultilattely
be seccessful.
Lord had.certainly understood
the Noble Bator) to sly, that the measure shell
timately triumph, notwithstanding any oppo'sition it
may Meet WWI. If, by his statement, the Noble
Lord had meant, that by the operation .of reason
the measure would :ultimately be carried, he wag
ready to meet him on that ground. Whatever
inada of tliscossing the question might be adopted
Icy that,Noble Lord, or by any other Noble Lend,
hr knew too- well what was due to himself, anti what
wars due to their -Lordahips, not to state his opinion
with termer, and to argue the ritihj.att with toodeta.
tion. The Noble auto: had nor, in submitting pia
Motion to their Lordships, explained"' what further
view he had, what Was his obytt in making it, or
what further measure ha. intended tO propose it it

ihnnid he the. opining ()filler Lc:l4Bl4e to akree'to
his Motion for a Committee. Their Lordships most
have observed, however, that it was 'not a' partial
modification of the laws now in force that would be
the consequence of agreeing to the •Matters, but
the total repeal .of :all the tests by those lawsesta-
Wished. He did not mean to say teat the proposition
of the Noble Baron went that length, but he con.
tended that his reasoning tended .iiireetly to such a
consequence. But whatever difference of opinion
he might entertain as to the merits of the Petition,
he had the satisfattion of saying, that he had depre.
wed its being brought forward at' this time, and
under the present circumstances ; he had the sada-
feetion to say, though he differed wish others on
the subjea, whose vote would be diCtated by
the same principles with his own, that no efforts had.
been wanting on his patt to prevent the question from
being brought forward under the present circum.
stances, The same efforts had been made for the
sane purpose by his Noble Friend who, is at Abe
head of the Gevernment of Ireland. But, as
the Question had been brotight forward, he felt
it to be his duty to state his sentiments upon
it without reserve: He felt it to be a duty
which he owed to
.himself, which he owed to
their Lordships, to the Country, and to the.Pe.
titioners themselves, to state distiettily his opinion ;
an opinion not hastily formed, but the result of
Many years consideration, and formed upon the most
.accurate observation, and the most diligent 'saves.
tigation, which he had been able to make. Though
he thought the time peculiarly unfavourable, and the
circumstances growing out of that time highly
adverse to the measure, .and affording a sufficient
ground fur opposing it, yet his objettion cx.
tended to almost any time, and to almost any cit.
cumstances which he could suppose possible to exist.
He did not mean by this to advance the absurd
;latrine, that there might not possibly be a time
esthete any political question, ,as,fat es applicable to
the circumstances and state of a country, may not
properly be made the subject of deliberatiun or
adoption. In stating this to their Lordships, it
would be!contrary to all the feeliegse all the see ti.
ments, and all the opinions lie had ever entertained
or expressed, if he were to say that he was ittflu.
enced either by passion 'or prejudice.; and in , this
view of his principles, the greatest pert of the rea-
soning of the Noble Lord was not applicable, either
to hint or to those. who ate:l4l;loer ,the "same int.
pressioes„ • It was his opinion that ealeration
should be extended to all classes' at religionists,
and to all seCleriste. Whether the evils that
result to society from the prevalence ;of infirie..
lity, ovirom the iefineeet of ,religious supereti-
tione be more destrative of ,huaian happiness, if
that question were .ever e.problem, .was eew com-
pletely ascertained:. They .had seen in Europe a
Republic 'composed 'entirely of Atheists, whose
crimes .and.enormities had snrpaseed any outrages
recorded in history, and in coroperisoe with which
the most terrible religious persecutions were die.
Feeney and moderation. With such an example to
'solve the question, if ever ptobleentoical, it was
-his opinion, that they who profeesed any religion
were preferable to those who had none. , Every
'class of religious persons, in his Vie*, deserved the
support, the, toleration, and the .o.otaetenn of a
rational Government, eEven they whoseease was
then under consideration, , were persons in whom
he should not be disiuctined,ro place confidence. He,
had no suspicion'that the Catholics would not make
loyal Stibjeets. Whatever Idiots they might have
at times entertained, and the tenets they had main.
tained were many times abused, he
_had known
by experience here and elsewhere, that the Catholics
had proved themselves honest and loyal Subjects.---
,
fie did not mean in this part to state any thing to
the disparagement of ills Catholics Uf Ireland, but
he could nut. omit stating thothe Catholics of this
Country hail, under every trying circumstances,
and in very difficult times, proved their zeitand at.
tachment to the Government and Constitution. Hav-
ing taken this: preliminary view of the question, he
came then to consider the principles of the law and„
of the Constitution as applicable to the questien
principles which had for a century and en half been
the ground upon which the liberty and prosperity
of the Country had been supported and principles
which he trusted their Lordships would not abandon
without some stronger reasons eaten any
,that had
yet been assigned. His opinion was novice extra.
ordinary on this subject, that any law, however wise,
was petted, and that circumstances might not occur
to render it, necessary to-revise, to modify, or
even- to abrogate. But it had been the praEtice of
every wise State-toadopt Certain elementary funda.
mental laws, whielt were a kind of land:mark be.
tween lobe 'Governors and the Governed, Which,
though they might be made'the subjeCt of revision,
should not be altered but on the strongest grounds,
and the most urgent necessity. He took it to be the
great fundamental
,principle of the British Consti.
tutiort, growing nut of the Revolution and the Poll
of Rights, that the Klieg should be a Protestant. ,In
,•
pursuance.of that, principle, out. Ancestors had de.
parted from the stria line of the succession, which
they would not have done bat on the ground of ne.
eellsity, in order to prevent a pereon of a different
religion from
.-the -established one of the State from
ascending the. Throne. They had put the question
to themselves, whether the inconvenience arising
from having a King of a religion different. from
the established, or the evil of breaking in upon
the order of the succession, were the greater ; and
they hade decided that it waa more expedient to
break in upon the t•uccevoion. This law. was not
founded upon any speculative principles, not decreed
from any imaginary evils, • but from the praeticel
experience which they -acquired under a King of a
different religion Erect; the established one of the
opted;the principle,
the King eljuuld ire of
tabliaheti religion.
ltit'aianti Anothere ef°t,yly on the
14ttlei::1,
of the first, that
where established rcli.
gion, his. ittinveitate advisers, and those delee
gated to act, under, biro eltoultLbe of the satne,relie
atom. In a C'`"-ernrWt of I,,aw, .whete the Law
is abeve tlte,Crown, ,it t 3 to 4 certain d,grs, frul,
that ,try .applying to the' CTOINtI. ought
( g i
citric
t ti; 1741 tiCil
should
t uwith any t)rlti.

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the Minister,. .1
to 't_ _ liancelfor, or any other 01. '
firer exercising s the delegared ' authority .of the
Cr.own, might be a Catholic. fie could easily CO
c..e,tve the converse of this doarine to be pratticaille.
'j he King, whose title was hereditary, inight,b:
of a different religion, provided the Officers ot State,
and all employed tn-.3er him, were of theestblii!led
arhelialg;ilghti;yoonta;btosbuhltsi,iroir aielial:iltalYtie3trieilnii)setiflti:SetilialilOtris7l::: taitel'il(dirlii'.4ll;
lies,
the n C
IC)11St :cods rbasyetve haderri
aains
otensiledhtellre tA,I-11:eiscst: r,lO ji 0I practice' t
aithnission of 'either to poliltit';al:l°aPgic:uraiint,t'ecs.trat;gl,l:liiu'C'Cr':ttlilt":lly;
lad not, in the first instance, enafted any liroirati°
with respea to the King. Upon the questile br
the exclusion of the Duke of York !run, the sue.
ctElC'xsasetillinstii:ni' `,would
I*
lhaa
dhebteue
na
fra
law ; and urged- by those who opposed the Bill of
ligion, but do not ,rgctugh,iimagbayinasnt the
tot:,etaf,sairae;
Inn any guards you please on the
rise of the . power of the Crown against FUT fe'
Throne.
yawn
they
yiniterifcre with the rights of th,c
.144._ the experience of a Catholi:
King afterwards, they had extended the limitatioeto
the Crown. Thus this had begun by the litnititimid
:the advisers and Ministers, and ended by
limiting
the Crown to the Established Religion, aria it %PS
.impossible to or 1114:
defend one and not the other. 11'
wished , their Lordships not •to lose sight
difference between, toleration, civil liberty, or civit'
rights, and pliticar power. It was his wi,ll,'l"
eeixh.viislteill.iebeerty should .not. be denied to anysol9'`l.',',
nst:Lithoeinr
vceirsyildiririgerhetns -t. abritiged, excePt- und'fl't
conferred
it in hands that would not use it for the varPF'lo
overturning the Civil Power. He educe °lot
consider theipeaftical dna and cunsetptec,ces 0,,
~,„
applying the same limitation to the advisets 01";
Crown, as to :the King hint welf. Flool the c`3ll,
-it)
of reasoning of .the .Noble.Baroil it appe3teds 'thou};-
1
they were not told ,c)ipossly 1,0,, lila( the •a.Oll 00
of his .Mption, would lead to the repeal DI ,a' 1
Tclus wiliel . would be fraught with dngo!) lici,
Mend to -the Dissenters as aril as the L,41°,14,,
ti;ll),.,tlg, h th.c N')hle Lord had not inewiooeil 40L,,,,f
tinctinn, between them. There were some l''',`iioso
distinaion,which he should state to their Lath
between the Dissentc FS att,i,,C4tholics. 11'Llegot
sotneDisa,cotoss who dift.ercd front' Protestott, co
than the. Catholics 'did, and there %We IPlin'.o4
tfniir_lea)oo°ltitntlig.iyees..s;;OWnjtoclettl floatiittelo:4li
ipliteinl.ll::eil:' :e;:loave:tn.ali
nt:slott.lceli',ll:eci lirlss tidieii.
if:
it' leil it,)ro:iiiiiiii:;::::',:::
there was One reniatitall!e distiooioo b°‘",'ollc
Cat.hoiics and I,isscotzrs. The Plocale‘"b,.,oo.
Catholics, on
.the .cantrary, did. 11.1 ''453 criy.
;hat. this was said to be in•tpiritu3l tiOter,,,,ol.
but it was impossible to acittioe,edge ,''''ci,,,o
tic4l, i 1
w-l-wili also bein,T, in, sonic ittexor'o,l,6,*
to a degtee of civil jurisCtiaion ; -and-tlot'rvitir
Ltirtlst'4l4l): tichrel;wesie.li: tuiliC
cChaatillioili)cror;clriii.nooriii;l
and eiv''', rights, depended on ecelesi3st,'c ',J, ii. pi
• Jun, anct their was no good :n han::4t (-:1111.? 111
Wthila not Chtertuily. submit to the decisill',:icoj,!
question nOw was f(it, wircil,,t (lA, (~of oi
be • loyal Sohjeas ? whether civil 061'100;1
liberty should be granted to them ? but ''' 014
itchierltdcocmle,siawsthiceatlheirtrotihile:titialazeodivzpir:lit',l',7i;ii kitia4
Friend (Lord ELl:mu), andsuch oili,cr
,",I(l'i'tc,,,:l°,olo,'
importance and trust, should he 1:0111'ci“, plinao '
of a religion hostile to the Establishc" '0:00
Irle State ? lie had heard it urged in c;tot J•11)Iii
out of.doors, that whilst wellAl a err',..te(oJekb '
no such consequences were to bc 'l'Plc„',oog,i,
that Were the Vase, ,what was tile L4°." ja )Iclo'
why , the eagerness to attain allot u'i,°ll.,o 1:;1)
little. advantage ? If their Lordships 6°7" ,ortli
)000 e, k
prehension from giving power to ic... . iirtl.-
t . FAAhlis
mg religious opinion, hostile toto, .
0,3801.
ligiun, they would inaitinain the lays
al oiaa-
their ancestors, or if .they shquid be `), li ife 0
repeal them, they should do' it "P'?2e'',o tilo
ready tor admit that the question rclist'yof polideo'
mission of Catholics into either t,ldil'e'.,), olio ill
stood !Ton Ye ry different grouncls,oool,'; doe, 01l
of the nutter of the Petition., 111 C l'4 old 011111
.suers an}' Mealber,Of either ti,n'e I° . i ~,1 Clis'
fp.; fioeva
iaocucsorrodihnigi tadoctnliicsaitoitacris tl)l:',itelicLe;l44liao.b..l.,l,:„'elilletso,l43ll
blibtled different Tests for,soch Per'",n,": 11,, 53!)i
abjuration ,against the Preten,ler,
,W.1_1./4;"
to,
~
could in the present moment 01),j4tdly ibe oil,
elaration against. Popery ; a"!' Y't he I'°
- 9 I.ll,eir C 4 . i‘lit,
PeuSeti with. This oath Wa ' ' • Jai
1 Lirell4o .1.11
faukper:intahcoyu,ghwhhioe.hi•Chuaiitlxwhl:csitoo•outVltuiolo
itie,,,i,010),.(n)
of Supremacy. it 4bjureS 01' --t-a,,, :t `e ~
and allegiance, but does rg'r "-11.rticocrei
`led gment of the King's sup.reniacl,,, '-g-,i0,101 i":i
peered to him insurinountehle! 'l'.
iii 000'0 ~
not be wise to if,crease the politic i,,,t,ettielt,
Catholics when by that rneasue,thc
.":100,10,0,
we'‘' 1; 0'
could not be attained. 'cliere, „,,,,i orivc
_,,
also in the internal situation of Ifet:::;0. SoilllJo
render the ITV:3W re extreinely Hiu onteLl ' i
had !tier, g . _ _,40
ago Ole eiCaire franchise 4 which g 0;
Catholics, the wisdom :3' ,ea' whist I.', 0
should. not then discuss. '111:i :,abs, oat ji ,
bzen advanced in to of ILL hot ex,o,
not affect the political poW",,Lvc [Kea i" `O,)
civil rights. The oral troy, v! wOO 01
c,thoitc, ii 0
spea I,ileticial to the t: ihern 4
jury to the: notescarit. It
rfla i;Lit . 0 th',Y.ool,
as to their civil righEsi • `,O vjurY ,ui
obliged to Ora a Protestant, 'lO4 rore:,:;i,
roduced. ,But the -1110""'",:i,, to 'lie °l_,o,
ohould be dirown:open, acc.or_';'.l 7,,tersol;',o,
those hest acquainted ,‘it. WI
_"4l„"oontic,, I,' r.`i'o,
the Catholics in the difrerct"..',., ovc tli,eo,P.ot
in the (.`atholic counties, sv4l2l;Litie ~, :p t
,;:dti
haat:lllSC. , ' TbiA WUPI3 giv,6'. ,1 the rc' ,4,,f
-o - .st, 311. ,oc. •
it ween the CathOliC A rlL' ci, 0014 11:s.. Cli•
AO 'lei Watild het lredutivc j.„,„0. rb 'll%ll'ol
_that so fir. from t)-eir,g i!,,i, ja,a OP 'o,,f,,te
,tenantry, it Would, pirsc.e rik -,,,,cr ifisO,,„-tic
Acuity:. anti , hardship Or ,g 1,&,;,, 1., 1y:',„,1
'franciiise was granteil to 10%1
in,..:,),0,..ed ot
drew frotir.this was, thilz L''' , , Jcti“
41 0 i'''
far outWeilsh aPy 441.411" a
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