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London, England, 1834-08-01 00:00:00

HACKNEY COACH BILL.

On the question that the House do resolve itself into Com-
mittee on this Bill, several Members opposed it on account of
its complicated nature, and the lateness of the session. The
House then divided, when there appeared—
Ayes 21
Noes 4l

Majority -20
HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICERS' BILL,

Mr. GUEST moved that the House do resolve itself into
Committee on this Bill.
Mr. HUGHES and several other Members opposed the
motion on the same grounds that the Committee on the last
Bill was opposed. On dividing, there appeared in favour of
going into committee 49; against it, 1.
The House immediately went into Committee. On the
first clause, reducing the salaries of future Speakers from
6,0001. to 5,0001. being put,
Mr. HUGHES asked whether the propositions of the
Committee in which this Bill was founded, met with the ap-
probation of the Noble Lord the Chancellor of the Exchequer?
Lord ALTHORP said that when he considered that the
salaries of the highest Officers of the State were not more
than 5,000/. per annum, to which they were reduced in con-
sequence of the changes in the value of money; he could not
say he thought the salary proposed to be appointed for future
Speakers was too small.
Mr. T. ATTWOOD said that if the change in the value of
money was the principle on which they were to proceed, all
salaries ought to go down to what they were in 1791. But he
hoped the time would soon come, when the change in the va-
lue of money could no- longer be pleaded for cutting down
salaries.
Mr. WARBURTON approved of the prospective legisla-
lation adopted in this clause.
Mr. HUGHES hoped the Committee would recollect that
the Speaker's salary was only raised in 1832 to its present
amount. Was it becoming in the House of Commons to be
changing its Speaker's salary every two years ?
Mr. FRANCIS BARING said that the Hon. Member was
mistaken. The Speaker's salary was not raised in 1832; all
the change then made was to transfer a part of it paid from
the Civil List to the Consolidated Fund.
Mr. T. ATTWOOD asked what the salary was in the
year 1791 ?—( A laugh.)
The LORD ADVOCATE—The same as it is now.
Mr. T. ATTWOOD—Then don't reduce it by any. means.
—( Laughter.)
Mr. EDWARD RUTHVEN thought the arduous duties
the Speaker had to discharge would be inadequately paid at
5,000/. a year.

Mr. Alilerman THOMPSON begged to move that the
blank be filled up with 6,0001. instead of 5,000/. It was true
that certain high officers of state had only 5,000/. ; but it must
be recollected, that besides the great fatigues to which the
Speaker's office subjected him, he was put to considerable
expense in duties of hospitality.
Mr. T. ATTWO OD certainly could not see why the
salaries of future Speakers should be less than that of past
Speakers. The talents which would be required hereafter
would be the same as heretofore, and he was sure the duties
Would not be less than they were in 1791, when the present
salary was fixed.

M. Alderman WOOD was as anxious to save the public
money as any man ; but whilst any officer of state at all had
6,0001., he did not see why the Speaker, whose duties were
heavier than those of any other officer, should have less.
Mr. HUGHES reminded the Committee that the Lord
Chief Justice of the King's Bench had 8,0001. a year, and who
could compare his duties with those of the Speaker ?—( Cries
of "Oh !") The Reformed House of Commons would show
their taste indeed, if they did not allow sufficient to their
Speaker, the first Commoner in the country, to maintain the
dignity of his station.
Mr. O'REILL Y did not approve of reducing the sala-
ries of public officers so low as to make it impossible for any
man, without a private fortune, to take them. Now it was
impossible for any one without private property to take the
office of Speaker with less than 6,000/. per annum.
Colonel WILLIAMS thought that the time of the Speaker
might be much better employed than in entertaining the
Members of that House ; and if they discharged him from
the duty of giving them dinners, they might not only without
injury, but with great advantage to him, reduce his salary
one-third.—( Hear, and laughter.) He had throughout his
life opposed the eating and drinking of the public money, and
should now.

Mr. E WART certainly thought the custom of the Speaker
giving dinners to the Members of that House both onerous and
unnecessary. He ought to be exempted from it, and it would
be easy for the House to testify the respect they felt for him by
attending his levee.
Mr. P. MAXWELL considered this a paltry kind of saving.
Mr. GUEST said that the Committee up stairs had, by a
large majority, approved of the 5,0001. As to the saving being
paltry, it would be large, if the House adopted all the propo-
sitions contained in the Bill.
Mr. F. YOUNG observed that the salaries of the Judges
and the Speaker could not be fairly compared ; for the Judges
were employed the whole year, and they had no official resi-
dence like the Speaker.
The Committee then divided, when there appeared 36 for
the 6,0001., and 18 for the 5,0001.
Mr. HUGHES gave notice that he should, on the bringing
up of the report, move that all the provisions of the Bill be
made prospective, as well as that relating to the Speaker.
The other clauses were then agreed to, and the House re-
sumed, and the report was ordered to be received this day.
The orders of the day having been disposed of, the House, on
the motion of Alderman WOOD, adjourned at half-past one.

On Wednesday Lord Melbourne, Lord Althorp,
and Sir John Cam Hobhouse, inspected the new Palace in St.
James's-park, when it was determined to take down the White
Horse Livery Stables, and several houses adjoining.
Their Majesties intend to visit Brighton, as usual,
in the ensuing winter, and will return from thence, it is under-
stood, to the new palace, which will be soon ready for their
reception. Fires are now constantly kept in all the apart-
ments. and the palace greatly improved by the late altera-
tions. The trouble and inconvenience experienced by his
Majesty in coming to town to the old palace and returning
again the same day, after transacting business, will be obvi-
ated by the new royal residence, which possesses all those
conveniences in which the old Palace is deficient, and it will
be ready, if required, to receive their Majesties in the autumn.
In consequence of a grant obtained for repairing
Westminster Hall, workmen have been employed during the
last three days in taking up the stone flooring, which is to be
lowered eighteen inches, and a better ascent to the Courts of
Law made by adding to the stone steps. The foundation un-
der the old pave, which was supposed to have been injured by
spring tides, is perfectly dry. Many repairs are contemplated
in order to put this ancient structure in a safe and better con-
dition. The hall is no longer an avenue leading to both
Houses of Parliament, the doors at the upper end having been
closed.

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THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY, ATJGUST 1, 18S4,

shall be made the arena of murder and devastation to support
a system of misrule or not. I support not a system of outrage,
but I contend that the interests of Ireland and our own are
permanently connected. We must act in concert with each
other. I fully subscribe to what the worthy Chairman has
stated. I have resisted the blandishments of the fair, and the
frowns of the Aristocracy. Ido not pretend to be a man who
never committed any follies. lam satisfied no man has been
exempt from follies. I can say with the Poet—
" Nor do I blush to own my follies past,
" ' But own those follies should no longer last."
No man in the House of Commons has more reason to be
proud than I have. In you, my constituents, the merit of my
election rests, and I beg leave to drink your healths--' The
healths of the independent electors of Finsbury.' " The Hon.
Gentleman sat down amidst a tremendous burst of applause,
which lasted without interruption for many minutes.
Mr. EASTHOPE addressed the meeting, and proposed the
health of the Chairman.
Mr. WiLas returned thanks for the honour done him, and
proposed " A speedy reform to the Church, a redress of
grievances to the Dissenters, and right of conscience to all
men."

Mr. WILKs then proposed the " Health of Mr. O'Connell,"
which was received with great enthusiasm.
Mr. O'CONNELL said—As it is late, I am unwilling to de-
tain you, and the more so because no length of time employed
in speaking could express my feelings at the manner in which
my health has been received. I owed you a debt of gratitude,
and lam here to repay you. lam indebted to you for the
lesson you have given the Tories. I saw a clinging in some
parts of the Ministry to the aristocracy. I saw Tories creep-
ing into the House of Commons ; that House was, I will
not say, perfumed by their arrival, but it began to smell
of their presence. I thought that beasts had crept
into the House, I thought I had become a Daniel in
the lions' den ; but when I heard that honest Tom Duncombe
was again amongst us, I considered that Daniel was himself
again. The Learned Gentleman proceeded to eulogize the
conduct of Mr. Duncombe, and after expatiating at some
length on the abuses of Church and State, and rejoicing in
the victory gained on the Irish Tithe Bill, concluded, amidst
the applause of his auditors, by saying—l anticipate that the
people of England have only to obtain a Government accord-
ing to their will to extend the advantages of it to Ireland.
Let England, Ireland, and Scotland act in concert and in
concord.

The CRAIRMAN then gave the healths of " The present Ad-
ministration, and may their future conduct merit the confidence
the country is willing to afford them."
The health of the Members of Parliament present was then
drunk.

Messrs. Philips, Potter, O'Dwyer, and Bish, returned thanks.
Mr. HOLT returned thanks on the health of the Stewards
being given, and Mr. CROUCIIER performed the same duty on
behalf of the Committee of Mr. Duncombe's election, after
which the company separated.