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London, England, 1802-06-10 00:00:00

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forma fair estimate. From weft a view, it vi bor
be found that our condition was much worse
before the War. In x 791 there was Jell, al'erP'i,
ing the Interest of the Debt, the sum of 6,700,00 k,
for the
-expenditure of the year. Now, if we 10°
ed into the Papers on the Table, we should to
that the net produce of the prjeeding year °Pk-
January 25," was 28 millions ; the eXpeOCeS atter
lej
ing the interest and redutlion of.the Tautw anther
to 2z,600,0001. ; so that there was,ltit for the% it
expenditure only 5,000,0001. From. these faora
c.
.appeared.that we: were not at present i,n s°
state as in 1:791, by at least 1,700,0001. At ta
period :the expellee a the Army amounted' 001;
1,748,0001."; at present it will exceed 3,400100,
so that we have a double expellee upon a fund not
siderably lesS than in- 179 . He .said he di",
ro
mean to state these facts in. order to al
at
the Nation ; -but only to .warn GentlemenWh,
they. were
'about', to . prevent them frQm
gifting that they had money-in hand wilieh .t oje
really had not. No Establishment of the :magnitnog
proposed
.could be supported under
.an expenee,' Fter
only beyond the calculations which 'had been 012',,
but even- beyond what the House could. have :iv
idea of. , For this year, however, he did not Tee
that the calCulations might be -accurate, 25 1-of
"iirere some extraordinary resources,' .suchas Pair by
the' Income Tax still unaccounted for ; antu be
means Of these, the expences.of the year
:met. He hoped that by next. 'year our Keve"or
would be improved ; but he had no hope , that th
would be improVed at all in proportion to suc
'intreased: expenditure. One other circumstlinceo,
begged leaveto suggest, which required' to be
io
tended to ; which was, the view and spirit
which the pregent Vote- was' passed; The Erjrisic;
lions of this National Council had more pub,licot
than those of most.other Nations..., This to lti
was attended with many advantages, but it eoor
alsooome disadvantages : it prevented such secroo,
as was requisite to perfea freedom of -
The present Vote; however, would Speeu'p-
known over Europe ; and though it -could o°',. 01,,,
pear to indicate any intention, on our part, t° brcre
the Peace, it would certainly seem as if we Pyce
not 'secure of the intentions of other Powers• 'Fire
_ought not to give such grounds for suspicion ;eep
ought not-to :ifford a pretext to others also to. ',OO
up a TfOrmidable Establishment.;,
_France, ,as, sttiii
as she Inok-ed into her Finances, would fina;
1110re:occasion than we to reduce her Military t 3,
blishment-; and the danger to be.apprehended fryer
this Country wOuld`then be the only pretext id,
,Rulers could employ for still maintaining a I°,l•Tets
able force. One of the most acute French \r".„11.0.
had observed that- the maintaining of large P 50,71
blishments was a disease which had infectedP:llllo,
in the last century, and which, unleSs put a sr°POCl
must gradhally undermine their resources, '1.1i5
end in their ruin. In putting a stop t° -ta}:
malady, this Island, he said, was partieularlY
culated to set the example, by its insular situaii° E
tiO
the patriotic spirit of its inhabitants, 2°-A '0
martial temper and skill in military evo;L'i! a!1
which distinguished it in 'the present beynilu of
former periods. We had a sufficient number if,
well-trainedmen, who could be called togetiii;rof
sufficient time to oppose any sudden invasion °J,ref
Enemies. He concluded by deploring thoseeo'il,
Vagant Establishments which must end in our -,
and which the Committee were about to evil"-
,r
e
nailed by that Vote which he anticipated.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
that. Oci his n. Friend who had just sat
nown,l)Y.l4
declaration he had made on the 'Speech of /14 11:2'ai,
Hon. Friend who preceded him, had seemed f•
oce
clined to consider the present proposition 'icor
the Committee as a Measure• for the Pertil"°b'is
Peace Establishment of this Country, altil"gbiod
Right Hon. Friend, the SECRETARY at cry
endeavoured to impress upon the Committee a v
itis
different idea, and had, for that purpose, state`ioo,
view of the difference between this PropOiiti 01
and the probable Permanent Peace Establishirlog
this Country. His Hon. Friend had comment
the large allowance of 40,000 men for the dei-ed
of Great Britain.—Now, if the Committee °tits
refer to the Speech of his Right Hon. Frien' baf
SECRETARY at WAR, they would perceive ;ice.
this was not proposed to be voted for the se' 0
of Great Britain alone, for the present year, bit' $g
Great Britain and Ireland, it being impossib'e'c to
present, to describe the specific amount of F°l-`ce
be- allotted to each, or to propose to vote the Y‘os
in any other manner : the truth was, that thi,5;,,,-,e
not the probable Force to be kept up as our ',o‘,/
Establishment, but the number could not be of
of
brought to' that reduced state, fur a great
our Force, of otir Military Force as well as Na at
was .now abroad, much of our. Army was, n°oL,lcl
sea ; so that, until their return home, We cioe
not be -said to be in a 'condition to -deceri-or,
upon the -quantum of our. Peace Establislunco,
That might prove to be' less than manytlemen might suppose,, and Jess than he was she
ling 'to state, for tilis was not, for the. reaslver
had already stated, .the season for him to de.isbea
his opinion upon that,Subja ; he therefore 'lot,
• it to be understood,: thathe did not assert, bj-teer
ing for the proposition now before the Comm' t, to
that 40,000 man was a force.aduaily necess'iT'ogf
constitute the real defenceofthis Country ; all
-was conveyed by the present propositihn was-Voce
that between this and the period at which the or,
. would terminate,- there would be no prOper cl:erro'
. tunity in the opinion of.,His Majesty's
ment, of reducing that number, consistently
the. due r care of'the interests of the EmPiP:' 103
,Right. Hon. Friend. the SECRETARY at VAit..
said, -that under the present- cireutnitancec'ifer4
Smaller force than 25,000 Meri,wou,l4 he insiw:tbe
for.lreland ; and„ .upun tliat.patt of the stib:r"
understood: his Hon. Friend, who sp.oke ,•13Vt
be
have oo objection ;' thought there 'could °avec,
any ; he did, indeed, conceive that eircumsi coo'
w6uld operate rapidly to enable 'us to reducev49l
siderably, all our, present proposed establisi*ofe
tr
but althongh they mithlit be rapid in their
ti)
be
yet nobody could expeia their commencement. the
- I f°f
immediate. As to the number propose( nt 01/'
Plantations, which. was 25,006 men, he did
serve, that. his
.1-16 n. Friend objected .at r
it was to be observed • .that -it was rit)t 19
Plantations merely, or for the coloilics,