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London, England, 1802-05-14 00:00:00

FRIDAY, 11\1;1- 14, 1802.

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their cession, ',different • from those urged by the
'NOble Lord, and to shew that the guaranteeing
POWerS'had a stroF.g interest in the independence of
Malta.' He then passed to the situation of Portugal,
in which he-contended, that whatever unfaVoinable
Viretimstances appeared, it wad owing to una-
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voliblde circumstances ; he•hOweVer, denied, the
cessions, to. he of that importance which the
'Noble 'Lord argued, and the Withdrawing' the
'British TrOops was -a wise "inezitire in the' then
state 'of affitirs, and was prodnetive of the hap-
, piest consequences. With respiea :to the Prince of
Orange, he 'aclmitted; he deserved the highest
tentiori :float 'this 'Country,; the most strenuous
'exertions were made in hilliehalf; and' with respect
icillat'lA;as Said of his 'expteigions'Of regret Onties6
occasions, these: PrineipalfY referred to the Map-,
pointment of.theii•rith being able to Testore•hini to
the Stadtholderate ; but, 'he'oberVed; that, the. War
‘s,''as first undertaken by this Country. itydefeli6e of
the dominions. of that Prince'. With resne6t to the
differences whielihad 'taken-place' the inte'r'val
betweercsigning the PreliMinaries and the cdnclusiort .
of the Definitive Treaty, 'it was deemed not
to he, upon a fair- ballance of the interests' of
both Countries, a ,stifAcleUt ground for brs!aking
Off the Negotiation flind he- Observed upon what
was lately Said, that the proCeedings with respeCt to
Italy; Were more a nominal than a teal accession'of
power to p'r'ance. He entertained not theSe appre-
hensions With resped to what -the Noble Lord called
the elduals of France ; at the same time'he was -satis-
fied with his assertions of • Our incontrov=ertible
rights to. the Sovereignty inlndia .; and with re-i
sped to the LogwoOd and the Honduras -Trade,
Le thought -our rights not in the least, impaired
by the recent. Treaty ; he held the same
nion with rc-spe& to the Gum Trade: D'raWing
to a conclusion, he made.some general observations
on the nature and tendency of the Noble Lord's argil_
mentsias well as the particular:narure of the proposed
Ad dress. He felt'it his. duty to. oppose the
4'n of the greater part of it, and he should, as- We
Understood his Lord Ship, after the N06,1e- Duke's
z,,\!bencliiient was disposed of, move for the intrd-
dna ion of what would- bein effect a Counter Ad,
N
ess. This his 'Lordship read, and it appeared to
be similar in substance and'tendency to the Counter
Adress proposectin the.cominons by Lord HaWkes
bury, (for which See the proceedings of that "House.

Lord MULGR AVE took an extensive review of
the arguments of the Noble Lord who had made the
Moticm; which he -admitted that 'he
the terms of the Peace had been more fa_
vourable to this Country ; but while he expressed
this Wish, "he could, not agree with that 'Noble
Lord in any one of the'views which he took of the
terms of the Treaty. His Lordship contended that
the arrangement with resped to Malta was per-
fedly satisfadory, inasmuch as the Troops Which
were to garrison it, belonging to the guaranteeing
Powers, 'lverd not sufficiently numerous to put the
place entirely at the disposal of that Power, but
sufficient, with the assistance of the Knights and the
nhabitants, to defend it against any-external force'
that cauldbe brought against it. With resped to
the cession Of, the Isle of Elba, he thought that of
no consequence, as it was a place that could at any
time be reduced by a competent force: His Lord-
ship then touched upon the other topics that had
been urged against the Treaty:, which he answered
with great ability, and Concluded:by expressing his
approbation of the prOpoSed Amendment of the NO.
ble Secretary of State.
Lord AUCKLAND said, it had been his inten-
,
tion to take up a considerable share of the attention
of the House, as there were some points which he
thoUght. it material to have very fully explained:;
but their Lordships had already heard so much upon
the general subjeCtof discussion, that he should now
confine himself more than he intended. He should
more particularly touch upon the most extraordinary
&thine which 4il been advanced u 1 on this occa.
sign, that the noh-renewal of former Treaties af-
feded therights of this Country,- and more particu-
larly in. India. The position was unquestionably in
dire& opposition to the Limi of Nation's, and to
every established principle of common justice. The
right of sovereignty of this Country' in India, was
touched, indeed, by the, loose and 'improvident
wording of the 13th Article of the Treaty of 1783,
in consequence of which the French, attempted to'
make innovations, , in our Settlements, in that
Country. This was resisted by, our Government
and 'colanel Cathcart, an officer. of distinguished
merit; and who, had he been ispa'red, would have'
proved an honour to his Country, was sent to make
an arrangement with the French Government.—A
Convention was entered into by these two per-
sons, but so obnoxiotis at home, from our tight 'of
Sovereignty not being properly' reCognizedi that he.
(Lord!Autxt:ANo) who was ',then residing in a
diplomatic capacity at Paris, had positive instruc-
tions from our Ministers here to disavow it in tow.
A Negotiation was then begun upon this important
subject, which lasted for near a twelvemonth,
when he, by direEtions from homed wrote a letter
to the French IViiriisteri an extra from which'lle'
would read"; couched in pretty strong terms of
peremptory assertion with resped to the exclusiVe
right of sovereignty, which produced the signature :
of the Treaty of 1787 in less than three weeks
from its date.. [His Lordship here read the Ex-
tradj Though that 'Treaty was not renewed,- his
Lordship contended that the principle" had been
sufficiently !acknowledged and aded upon by France,
to establish the unquestioned* right' of Sovereignty
'of this Country in the Indian Seas,- and in the Pro-
vinces conquered ,by the British arms. .With re_
sped to Commercial Treaties, he said, it was per-
reOly competent to this Country and France to
enter into such treatieso but that which he had the