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individual was himself, but he could assure Hon. Members
that such was not the fact. Five-sixths of two or three
counties had met and petitioned the Legislature for the repeal
of the Union, whist he lead been in retirement in the moun-
tains of Kerry. The Irish people, in a body, were becoming
slowly and dispassfonatc7,y Repeaters, and in almost any county
that could bie'seleeteff, tre-wer4 3t)q liepalers for one
wlioo
was of a different politica 14apinion. Many of those who oPposed
Repeal did so, fearing dangerous struggle might ensue,
for he (Mr. O'C.) had never met an individual' opposed to It
who did not 'admit 'that it Would be a good thingif it could
be obtained without a convulsion, The Coercion Bill hail
made More converts :to :,the Question than almost any
other thing that; had occutred.—(Cies of " Hear, hear.")
The. King's speech , had also converted many, but after
all it was in that House the qUestiOn must be ultimately dis-
cussed, and he'clid not think it should be taken day after day by
instahnentS.—(Lotid Cries of hear, hear.)
his part he would give full credit for in the spet
self he intended
to make upon the introduction of that question, and ...sted w
sandide h
odseel iaboedr a ttihoen
other
rhwhen
faaaqs,uetshtaito.7thery.:
of
e
Any instalments on,
the period did arrive it would be discussed with gooL temPe:
s respectingimportant
quired. He hoped if there was any difference between
would discuss the matter, calmly, and not make assertions of
commercial prosperity on the one hand, or commercial distress
on the other, to no purpose. After some further observations
the Hon.
and Learned Member concluded by apologizing for
trespassing so long upon the attention of the House, and in-
vited them to discuss the question fully, at their earliest con=
venience.

Mr. O'CONNELL, after sitting down, rose again, and
begged to add one word about the Right Hon. Secretary for
Ireland. His having been in Ireland so long, and escaping
odium, was in itself a proof of his being entitled to some merit,
for rarely did his predecessors escape so. Neutrality was, in
his (Mr. O'Connell's) mind, the most desirable qualification for
an Irish Secretary.

Mr. O'CONNOR begged to say, relative to the remarks of
the Honourable Member for Dublin, that on his ( Ur.
O'Connor's) knowledge he could say the Right Honourable
Secretary for Ireland was not entitled to praise. The papers
which he (Mr. O'Connor) moved for in this House would of
themselves show five distinct circumstances that disentitled
him to any encomium. Negative qualities are not enough.
He (Mr. O'C.) required affirmative ones. Doing nothing was
not enough.
Lord ALTHORP could bear testimony to the courteous
manners and kind feelings for which the Right Hon. Secretary
for Ireland was peculiarly distinguished. He knew him •for a
long time, and part of that time intimately, and he could say,
that it did not surprise him that the Right Hon. Gentleman
had gained the popularity he had, for he knew of no person
who was better calculated to attract and deserve it.— (Hear.)
He was very glad to find that the question of the repeal of the
Union was to be debated in a manner that became a question
of reason, for he did not consider it as such, and by debating it
'on the test of reason, he was fully confident it would be shown
that it did not square with the rules of reason. That the re-
peal of the Union would be injurious to the British empire at
large he was certain, but most so to Ireland; and it was with
satisfaction he had heard from the Hon. Member for Dublir,
that the tendency of this measure was to be submitted to a calm
discussion. It appeared extraordinary to him (Lord Althorp)
how the connection of an opulent and poor country could be
, injurious to the latter. _ _ . .

Mr.O'CONNELL—The leech swells with the blood it sucks,

3 troll.

^:ussex, upon the subject of manorial rights, and praying that
some sum, in no case ex, eeding lOt., should be made a legal
payment for heriots.—(Hear, hear.) The.. Hon. Member
also presented petitions from Etchingham, and various
other places in Sussex, upon the subject of ~ tithes,
and praying, that in lieu of Ceti a tenth of the rental should
to taken, and that in addition to this hop grounds should pay
'los. an acre.' • • -
Mr. MILKS presented a-petition from Stanfield, in Essex,
signed by the Protestant Dissevers of that town, complaining
of the, grievances under v;liiclUbCy laboured. The Ret Dr.
Bons, Regius Professor of DitititOn Oxfortleadded the sane.
_.citt
tion of his name'sind 'opinion:to Ple, prayer Of he petition.
His opinibn was; that no. injustitle•clbuldqie gr,,, ei .than;dc-
manding that persons who received nr.bene bV rpTigious in-
itruction from ministers of the Established hui•ai should pay
for such. The petition enumerated the various'grievances under
which the Protestant' issenters laboured ; such as the laws
ffecting registration of births ; the ceremony of marriage ;
the exclusion of Dissenters front the advantages of Univer-
sity education; and the prohibition of using parochial ceme-
teries.
Mr. FLEETWOOD gave notice of a motion he intends to
make after the holydays, on the subject of consular reform. •
Mr. P. SCROPE; presented a petition from the borough of
4, against duelling.
VERNEY fully concurred in the views of the pelf_

Sir H.
loners.

Mr. O'DWY,
injurious, and (mgt.

'cIR thought the practice of duelling was most
't to be put a stop to. So far as military
' there ought to be a discontinuance of

officers were concerned,
the practice.

•Eok from his experience as an

Sir H. VERNEY could sp.
‹; Duke of York, when Corn-
officer in the army, that the lat. his protection to officers
mander-in-Chief, had always afffird,
led to enter into a duel.
who from conscientious motives declit for Stroud'what the

'on of something
• instead of re.

Mr. CAYLEY asked the Hon. MemL
prayer of the petition was ?
Mr. SCROPE said it was for the introduct.
like a Court of Arbitration or Court of Honour,
orting to the practice of duelling.

Ordered to lie on the table. c Chair.
At 25 minutes past two o'clock the Speaker left tin

LIST OF THE PENJRITY
Of 21 (Teller included) who voted for Mr. Home's motion
duce the Navy Estimates from 27,500 men to 25,000, inch.
6,500 marines and 1,000 boys.
Make, J. M. Jervis, J.
ilrothertoo, J. Lister, E. C.
Buller, C. Oswald, R. A.
Cobbett, W. O'Connor, F.
Faithfull, G. Parnell, Sir H.
, 'eliien, J. Romilly, J.
Fitzsimon, C. Ruthven, E.
Haskell, D.

Vigors, N. A.
Wallace, R.
Warburton, IT
Wason, R.
Williams, Col.

to r

LIST OF THE MIND.
Of 30 (Teller included) who voted to
First Lord of the Admiralty from "
X ttwood, I'. Finn, W. F.
Blake, M. Gaskell, D.
Beauclerk, Major Hume, Joseph
Tirotherton, J. Hutt, W.
Butler, Hon. P. S. Jervis, J.
Cobbett, W. Lister, E. C.
Faithful, G. Nagle, Sir R.
Fielden, J. O'Connell, D.
Fitzgerald, T. O'Connell, M.
"itzsimon, N. O'Connell, J.
ntzsimon, C.
Mr. Maxfield's nam
the Majority for a Col
duct of Baron Smith.

TELLER.
Home, Joseph
IRIT?
Ince the Salary of the
. to 4,0001 a oar.
O'Connor, F.
Oswald, 11.
Parrott, J.
Ituthven, B.
\rigors, N. A.
Talbot, J. H;
Wallace, rt.
Walter, C. A.

new Art omitted by roi
)mmittee to inquire inl

TELLER.
Ruthven, e:. S.
istake 'in our List of
ao the Con.

COURT OF CHANCERY.-(THIS DAY.)

POMFRET V, WARD.

Mr. WRIGHT stated that be had an application to make to
the Court in this case, arising upon the twenty-sixth new order
that was made before the last new set of orders. By the recent
practice the examiner who takes the examination in chief of a
witness is at liberty to take the cross-examination also. Here
there had beep ass examination taken in chief, upon which I
receipts had been produced as exhibits, and upon which 2fil.
had been paid. An application was made to the same exn_
miner to take a cross-examination of the same witness, but he
had refused to do so, the examination in chief having been
taken under the old system. For the cross-examination
which had been taken by another examiner, 2(1/. more was
demanded, although by the new rules there were only
three hundred half-pence due thereon, and the question was
whether the Examiner was not bound to deliver out the cross-
examination he had taken without the payment of this addi.
done large sum of money. The Learned Counsel had under.
stood that the new rules were made with a vientito save expense
tl suitors, and not to increase the amount they had to pay in
the different public offices.