The Sun.
London, England, 1851-05-21 00:00:00

THE " COUNT OUT."

The following Members were present when the House
was counted out last night:—
Adderley, C. B. Grey, Sir G.
Aglionby, H. A. Hawes, B.
Anstey, T. C. Hill, Lord M.
Armstrong, R. B. Hume, J.
Bass, M. T. Molesworth, Sir W.
Blandford, Marquis of Nichol], Right Hon. J.
Child, S. Pugh, D.
Cockburn, Sir J. Salwey, Colonel
Denison, E. Somerville, Sir W.
Duncan, G. Thioknesse, R. A.
Dunne, Colonel Thompson, Colonel
Ewers, W. Thornely, T.
Fox, W. J. Villiers, Hon. C.
Frewen, C. H. Walmsley, Sir J.
Geach, C. Williams, W.
Gibson, T. M.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE BRADFORD
REFORM ASSOCIATION.
(EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY.)
Sir,—On Monday the 19th, was a continued scene of
struggle for delay on the part of the Papal minority.
It is difficult to blame men for doing what they think
good for their cause; and it is also in some sort difficult
to say, how or by what process a determined minority is
ever overcome. The explanation seems to be, that there
are slow and hidden sources of defection and failure,
which reduce the spirits of the defenders, and end in
preventing their dying on the floor of the House.
There is scarcely any party that has not at some time
been in the position described, and felt this weakness.
An argument for toleration in the day of strength.
A minority is excusable for advancing a bad argu-
ment when arguments are scarce. And one of especial
badness was produced on this night. You may remem-
ber my noting, that the motion for going into Com-
mittee was finally allowed to pass with unexpected
facility. It was allowed to pass when the House was
thin, and consequently both the absolute and the relative
magnitude of the majority and minority were greatly re-
duced. And this was gravely advanced on Monday night,
as proof that the House had reconsidered the question and
found out that it was wrong; the fad being only that
it had found out it wanted dinner. Any argument of
this nature was effectually contradicted in the course of
the evening; where a majority of 27 1 against 30 dis-
played the' proportion of 9 to 1, which is not often wit-
nessed in the House.

On Tuesday the House was occupied by Sir William
Molesworth's motion for an Address to the Crown pray-
ing that a stop may be put to transportation to van
Diemen's Land. The answer of the Government
brought out some valuable points in the way n'
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pros-
pects of improvement. The necessity of the
And case, is urgent; we must plant out our thietbvee
question
so, they must be planted somewherbet:
there, and
all, to the country here, to the country therefore is, how to plant them with the fleas to
respect to moral
to the transplanted. Now
to withbe
the
same is with
disease the rule seems
ut thin. In this direction,
physical; it must be plantedd",ocoveries. Instead of mew-
modern science has made i
it disperses the patients
trybest e
ing up disease in lazarettos,
scenes, and the infection
among country air and rural
hitherto 'that criminals
The fault has been,
•
dies out. in gangs and public receptacles.
were herded
together
rthe Government, is to send abroad
The plan avowed
byen submitted to some reforming pro-
cessonly such as have e
and then to encourage them by con-
siderable
here,
liberty and indulgence abroad, amounting
to starting
them in the position of industrial
labourers. And the consequence of this is stated to be,
that
instead of the resistance which has been shown by
some colonies, there are many of modern foundation from
which requests proceed for a supply of labourers on the
principles enounced. In fact it would appear, that in all
new colonies there must be a period when such a supply
must be most promotive of their interest. After the
answer of the Secretary for the Home Department, the
progress of the debate was interrupted by the thinness
of the house. It had been previously determined to ad-
journ till Thursday.
I am, Sir, yours very sincerely,
AN OLD REFORMER.

London, May 21, 1851.

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FATAL RAILWAY CASIIALTY.—An &BMW 1/cCi•
cent occurred on Saturday afternoon to the 1.15 re;74. train
_.„„
from Bolton to Machester; it was in rounding a cur; i°l.o"m"'i7.s
Windsor-bridge and Oldfield-lane, about a mot
yet been
destination. From some cause which lia!is,ll
discovered, the engine and tender left the rails, and marling
line. The
a short distance was thrown over acroiis
luggage van, which on this occasion wase behind; the tender,
the carnages of the
was jerked up and cast upon it; b_utoone
of the passengers
train remained upon the line, d
an
were much shaken by the
received any injury, though tl?ey
the slight damage done is
The train was not going
though thrown off, escaped with-
out The driver,
Ashmou
sautdadneyn bgrrienagtinspgeuepd, oatn'
thatdthteotitriain.
gb, the stoker, was
much injury, but Richardjuggage;van ; it is supposed that
unfortunately killed by the; caught between the van and the
movement of the engine, but it is
in jumping off be w
eed to death. No reason has been dis-
covered , andfe r wasthe
seetrrournaseht:i
placed near the rails in such a way as to throw
the wheels oft t
accidentally e metal, as the rails were quite sound at the
This, however, is mere
railway offi • l -h
pointD, for the cia aNs o have examined the
speculation,
not found any special ground to warrant such an
the engine left them.
place have
though it is the one they entertain.
opinion,
OFFICIAL
ANNOUNIMMENTS.--We understand that
Major llogg and Mr. Owen have been appointed Commis-
sioners where
sioners to proceeed to the Cape for the purrpop of inquiring
into the recent disturbances in Kafraria. he intimat!!
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ac-
quaintance with the affairs of the colony acquired by Major
Peregrine
llogg during his period of service there under Sir
language
Maitland, and the perfect knowledge of the Klfirmsch ;
which Mr. Owen possesses, will, no doubt, conducein the render the inquiry advantag a
eous. The vacancy in
by
the
re-
presentation of Clackmannan and Kinross, u
lamented death of Major-General Sir w. Morison, will, we
d up by the election of
understand, in all probability, be illlrdam,
who solicits the
Mr. Adam, son of Admiral Sir C. •A
e liberal principles which
suffrages of the electors on the
same
representative their
obtained for the late much regretted
has yet appeared for the
consistent support. No candidate
by the death of Viscount
representation of Newry,
vacantthat a gentleman of liberal prin-
Newry ; but we understan.ddress
the electors, and with every
ciples will immediately ad
statement of the appointment of
prospect of success. The _
f clerk of the Crown, vacant by
Mr. Tindal to the
nice 's accession to the peerage, which
the Earl of Cottenham
contemporaries, is, leant, pre-
appeared in several of oar at
k Initlire.