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PETITIONS.

Lord CRAN WORTH presented a petition from cer-
tain attorneys suggesting alterations in the Expenses of
Prosecutions Bill.

The Duke of ARGYLE presented several petitions
against Papal aggression; also a petition from the synod
of Ayr, praying their Lordships not to permit any
bishop to assume territorial titles in Scotland. Ile
thought it was scarcely worth while to introduce a
clause to exempt Bishops of the Episcopal Church in
Scotland from the operation of the Bill, as it had been
decided by the law courts of Scotland that the assump-
tion of such territorial titles were illegal.
The Bishop of SALISBURY said that although such
titles were unknown to the law of Scotland they were
not contrary to law.

Lord CAMPBELL said that the Supreme Court of
Scotland had decided that the assumption of such terri-
torial titles Wert) contrary to law,
The Bishop of SALISBURY said that they violated
no law in assuming those titles.
Lord CAMPBELL raid that the Right Reverend
assume their
thhae(ilrntrcriisteolry:atlhteitsleasm.e right to assume the title
n •
of Hoke of Edinburgh es the Scotch prelates had to
STANLEY,RAILWAYS
io
putting N
the AMERlCA.question
of
which
he had given notice,
railway from Halifax on
to t h
Quebect
railway
h asut bJ' ct a
df t
usofii.nerdesdd
ttoheitr.ooLstortrldotshipas'll;o r op! ar tool, o sr
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from Lake Superior to the Pacific, and that the United
States' Legislature had entertained the project, arid had
offered to sell him 78,000,000 acres of land, at 10 cents
per acre, for the railway.
.This rendered it more im-
portant that the railway from Halifax to Quebec and
Toronto should be completed, and he believed that pro-
positions had been made by the Noble Earl to Mr. Howe,
the able and indefatigable agent for Nova Scotia, which
had found favour with the Legislature of Nova Scotia;
but, as he understood. the colony of New Brunswick had
refused those terms, and had repeated their adherence to
their original terms, to transfer to the company or the
Legislature ten miles of territory on each aide the line,
and unless New Brunswick consented
.to the formation
of the line, the consent of Nova Scotia and of Canada
would be useless, and the great line of communica-
tion between the Atlantic and the Pacific would
be carried on through the country of the United
States, instead of through British America, un-
less the Noble Earl comes to some terms with New
Brunswick. He asked, therefore, if the Noble Earl
would lay the proceedings of the New Brunswick Legis-
lature on the table, and if the Government were pre-
pared to meet the views of the New Brunswick Legisla-
ture, which to him appeared fair?
Earl GREY had no objection to lay the papers on the
table, although the information conveyed by them was
veryimperfect. He did not consider that the decision
of the New Brunswick Legislature could be con-
sidered as final, as it had been hastily adopted
at the end of a session on imperfect
information. He had never yet heard that any really
substantial company had offered to construct the
line, and the only company from which he had received
an offer was one which had been repudiated by the
Governments both of Nova Scotia and Canada. He had
acted on the principle of declining commiinication with
the representativei of any company which was not
countenanced by the Nova Scotian and Canadian Govern-
ments. He agreed with the Noble Lord as to the im-
portance of the construction of this line, and he did not
consider that what had passed in New Brunswick pre-
sented any insuperable obstacle to such construction.
Lord MONTEAGLE had heard with extreme satis-
faction the expression of opinion on the part of his
Noble Friend that he did not consider the opposition of
New Brunswick to be of such a nature as not to be over-
come, and that the Legislature of that colony might yet
be brought to aid in the making of the railway. He
(Lord Monteagle) could not but express the regret he
telt when he found his Noble Friend had given up the
occupation of the land when it had been offered to him.
The whole question of the legislation for these North
American railways, involving as it did the connexion
between them and the mother country, as well as the
improvement of 13,000,000 of acres of land, was one of
great importance; and he hoped his Noble Friend would
suspend any final proceedings on the matter until the
opinion of the three colonies should have been obtained.
He wished to know whether any steps had been taken
with respect to the railway Bills of last year?
Earl GREY said he had considered that it would have
been much better to have the land under the manage-
ment of a local Government instead of the British.
With respect to the Acts referred to, they had been
only received two or three days, and no steps had yet
been taken about them.
After a few words from Lord MONTEAGLE,
Lord STANLEY wished to know, with reference to
the company to which he bad referred, whether there
would be any objection to lay on the table the commu-
nications which had passed between them and the Go-
vernment?

Earl GREY said if the Noble Lord wished to move for
hern, they would be produced.
The subject then dropped.

SPIRITUAL WANTS IN RURAL DISTRICTS.
The Marquis of LANSDOWFE said, in presenting a
petition which was entrusted to him, he beggEd to call
the attention of their Lordships to a subject in which a
Rlght Rev. Prelate present was interested, concerning as
it did a portion of the diocese which was so ably and
justly managed by him. It was with reference to a
place in the diocese of Salisbury. The petition was
trete the gentry and inhabitants of the parish of Wool,
in Devonshire, in which they complained that ever
since they had been made a district, there was but ono
clergyman to discharge the duty of that and two other
neighbouring parishes. The petitioners prayed for some
relitf from that state of spiritual destitution. Ho was
not cognisant of the circumstances of the case of his own
knowbetige, but having been requested to do so he had
felt it to be his duty to bring it forward.
The Bishop of SALISBURY thanked the Noble Mar-
quis for his courtesy in giving him notice of his inten-
tion as well as for the manner in which he had presented

the petition. Ho acknowledged there was a difficulty in
the case of the petitioners, and he feared very much it
might not be easy to remedy it. The parish of Wool
contained a population of about 800 persons, and the in-
come was 1181. a year for the clergyman. Between 600
and 600 persons resided in the hamlet of Wool, about
two miles from the church. Before the year 1844 there
had been a resident curate, but he found it very difficult
to obtain the services of one now for the place. It was
after that date he gave his consent to the formation of
Wool into a separate district, in the hope that the Com-
missioners would be able to provide for its endowment.
In that hope, as in many similar ones, he had been dis-
appointed in the failure of the funds of that Commission,
and in their falling so far short of the demand made upon
them. He had endeavoured in various ways to obtain
the services of a curate in that parish, and be still hoped
to be able to do so. He had himself more than onto
offered to pay half the expense of a curate, and.
. pan
y
was stil I prepared to do so if other persons wou
the other moiety until the Ecclesiastical Commission
could make provision for the parish.
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THE COASTING TRADE.
e from a number of
pre-
sent a petition, pursuant to notie
complaining of
shipowners in Shields and Sunderland,
h their trade had suffered both
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY. then rose to
the great depression whie
alleged unfair arrangements made by
laws, and certain
railway
as a portion of it, to look
railway directors and
ce to preserve the mercantile ma-
from the consequences of the
croempepaalneifes.theltnwaaysigaatmioanti
ter of great importance
vessels engaged in the carry-
to the
The petitioners, number of between
carry-
ing
Irnadde:;oo, complained of the different rates of carriage
4cohdarag
charged by railway companies for sea-borne coals and
afterrinet this
those which came by land conveyance, and they there-
tecrouus
interests
thosea.n ,
fore asked that all parties should be put upon the same
footing in respect to that great article of Consumption.
It was a question which was worthy the serious atten-
tion of Government.
Tho Earl of lIARDWICKE did not rise to support
the prayer of the petition, but to congratulate his Noble
Friend on his change of opinion.—
(Laughter.)
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY—I beg to sot the
Noble Earl right. I voted with my Noble Friend.—
(Hear, and laughter.)
The Earl of lIARDWICKE continued—The petiticn
referred to the coasting trade, and, therefore, the ques-
tion of a change in the laws did not come before
them. He was not then going into the question of
g
how far the coasting trade was or was not affected I)3'
the repeal of the nevi ration-laws but he begged to
throw out a suggestion, and it was; this—that theforpetthis-
screw
steamers
peti-
tioners were not alone injured by the railways,
nienrf
so
com-
plained i ed
st.he north
increase of steam navigation had also materially and ne-
cessarily
te
aa
mff affected
now
0 their ei
building,
condition.
to
be Therepropelled
t compete most
machinery, which would soon be b_
auceetssfully even with the railways; u were
by a sailela s as nodf
to the south and back again in four or n
Lord BEAUMONT said what
not
they would be able to make their voyag.erefrodmay
charges were proportionable
of was, that the
articlec on
the petitioners hpeetwitaios
the one railway. They
charged equal for the same .
to one place thananother;y
coals
going .
charged higher fur
forty miles beyond London wer
for instance, coals
thus© coming to the metropolis itself
charged more than ed in gettin had sue . g two rates of
The company . ~ , nii
t.e.r ....1.., and acted
inserted inaccordingly.
charges .
well worthy their Lordships'
nb,ectThat was a s
con-
sideration.
words from the Duke of BUCCLEUCH,
After
a feviNVILLE thou h v.
Earl GRA— g t WA a great deal was to
lterat.
$,,, said against any
.a ion
of
the
law.
He
er.
-h-erided if a provision were introduced in accordance
with the prayer of the petition, that the effect of it
would be n,-it to lower the tolls for forty miles, but to
raise them for the 200 miles between London and York.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY wished to explain
to the No hie Earl near hiui that lie still felt the con-
,ietit?a he had formerly entertained, alai espres.ed Ilia
opinion that the navigatioit-laws had beau b great
source of 11. e prosperity of the best interests Gt the
country.
The patior, was then ordered to table.
The on the
The Earl of STRADBROKE presented a petition
against Papal aggression.
Several Bills having been forvrarded a stage, their
Lordships adjouined.
—______—

HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 16.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
THIRD READINGS.
The following Bills were read a third time and pasud
St. Andrew's Railway.
Taw Vale Railway and Dock.
Uttoxeter to Stoke, near Stone, and from Bdillivieb to
ike
Bandon TOO

The amendments proposed to the East Lancashire
Railway and Wrexham Improvement Bills were consi-
dered and agreed to.
PETITIONS.
A number of petitions were presented in favour of the
Ecclesiastical Titles Bill; also others praying that the
Bill might be made more efficient.
Mr. REYNOLDS presented a petition from the com-
mittee of Irish manufacturers, praying for some mea-
sure to relieve the distress now existing among the poor
of Ireland.
Mr. HUME presented a petition, praying for the re-
peal of all duties pressing on newspapers; also petitions
from places in Scotland, complaining of the Bible
monopoly.
Mr. C. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from
Everton, near Liverpool, praying for a discontinuance of
the Regium Donum.
Mr. LABOCCHERE presented a number of petitions
from Shields and other places in favour of the Coal
Whippers' Bill.
Sr G. PECHELL presented a petition from Brighton
praying for an extension of the County Courts Act.
Mr. HERRIES presented a petition from the Cana-
dian Board of Trade against the reduction of the timber
duties.

Mr. HAWES presented a similar petition from Now
Bruns wick.
Lord NAAS presented a petition from the spirit
dealers of Ireland, praying for the repeal of the duties
levied upon home-made spirits.
GUNPOWDER STORES (LIVERPOOL) BILL.
This Bill was brought iu by Sir G. GREY, read a first
time, and ordered to be read a second time this day
Week.

VANCOUVER'S ISLAND.
Mr. DUNDAS wished to ask the Under-Secretary for
the Colonies whether a recent change has not taken
place in the office of Governor of Vancouver's Island;
and if so, with whom the appointment of governor rests,
with the Hudson's Bay Company, or with the Noble
Lord the Colonial Secretary. Also, if there are any re-
turns of the number of colonists to Vancouver's Island,
or of the quantity of land sold there?
Mr. HAWES said the Governor of the colony had
certainly resigned, and the appointment of his successor
rested with the Secretary of State for the Colonies, who
was waiting to receive some recommendation from the
company before he filled up the vacancy. With regard
to the latter part of the question, he was unable to supply
the information, as the company had not yet made their
returns on the subject.
MR. DILLON,

Mr. FEARGUS O'CONNOR wished to ask the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer, did not Mr. Dillon most fully
„rry out the printed instructions of the Lords of the
Treasury to the Preventive Water Guard Service in
Ireland under his commission; and where there be now
no charge whatever against Mr. Dillon, and
that he fully did his duty, upon what ground
the Lords of the Treasury refuse him his claims for
the capture of the American smuggling brig Peru, of
New York, where such vessel was condemned, by law, as
his capture; and what more was required of Mr. Dillon
by the Lords of the Treasury's printed instructions to
establish his claims to such capture than as directed to
insert the occurrence in the journal of the station he com-
manded, and forthwith to officially report it for their
Lordships' information, which report was acknow-
ledged by their Lordships, with a letter of thanks to Mr.
Dillon for his conduct, directing him to read such to his
crew under his command?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said this
subject had repeatedly been brought forward in the
House during the last twenty years, and as often disposed
of. That was the only answer he could give.
CRUELTY ON THE COAST.
Sir E. N. BUXTON drew the attention of the Hon.
Gentleman the Under-Secretary for the Colonies to a
case of cruelty which occurred on the coast of Africa
four years ago. A negro named Earskine, who had been
in the service of an English officer named Murray, was
suspected of having stolen some ornaments, and was
cruelly tortured by his master, and another officer
named Stuart. It was afterwards discovered that Ears-
kine was not the thief, but that the property had been
stolen by a soldier under the command of the master.
He wished to know whether any proceeding had been
taken against the officers for their conduct, and secondly
whether it was intended to make the negro any compen-
sation for his ill-usage?
Mr. HAWES replied that the case was now under
the consideration of the Commander-in-Chief, who alone
could deal, with it so far as the officers were concerned.
With regard to the latter question the Colonial-office
had no power to make the negro any compensation, but
he had a remedy in the courts of law.
ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES BILL.
On the order of the day being read for resuming the
adjourned debate on the Eccelesiastical Titles Bill, Mr. REYNOLDS moved that the House at it rising
should adjourn until Monday.
The SPEAKER intimated that the Hon. Member
could not make such a motion after the order of the day
had been resd.—(Hear.)
Mr. REYNOLDS—Then I move that this debate be
now adjourned.
The SPEAKER—The Hon. Member haring already
spoken he cannot move the adjournment of the debate.
—(Laughter and cheers.)
After the presentation of a considerable number of
petitions against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill,
The House divided on the motion for going into Com-
mittee on the Bill, when there appeared—
For going into Committee ... ... 116
Against it ••• ... 35
Majority for going into Committe© —Si
On re entering the gallery we found that the House
had gone into Committee, with Mr. BERNAL in the
chair.

On the question that the preamble be postponed,
Mr. KEOGH rose to move that the preamble should
be taken first, for he contended that at present the House
had not before it the Bill by which the Government
meant to stand or fall. He thought it would be more
desirable that the 'Bill should be printed in its new form,
in order that the country might see what its nature was.
Lard JOHN RUSSELL said he could not accede to
the proposition of the Hun. Gentleman, because it was
now some time since the Right Hon. Gentleman the
Secretary of State for the Home Department had stated
what alterations the Government meant to propose in the
Bill, and the House by this time was perfectly aware of
them. With respect to the other alterations, the opinion
of her Majesty's Government would depend in a great
measure on what took place in the course of the debate;
and as far as regarded the amendments of the Hon. and
Learned Member, he (the Noble Lord) certainly desired
the Attorney-General to communicate with the Hon.
was,
Learned Gentleman to ascertain what their nature
and to express the opinion of the Government upon
them;
but the result of that had certainly not been
to come to any agreement on the subject of the amend-
ments.
Mr. DISRAELI said that the n
P osit"l of the House
with respect to the amendments hadceor y tainl been very
much changed since the recent declaration by the
Lord, that the rescript of the Pope appointing Cardinal
Wiseman was part and parcel of a great conspiracy
against the civil and religious liberties of the country.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that what he had
stated was that it was part of a conspiracy to prevent
the extension of civil and religious liberty in Europe,
and that it was dreaded that the influence of this coun-
try would be used to assist that extension.
Mr. DISRAELI said he was willing to accept the
Noble Lord's correction, and with that he would say
that it was the most important statement which had fallen
from a Prime Minister during the present century. Th 6
question was then, whether the Bill now before them was
calculated to meet such a conspiracy,and he thought it was a
marked characteristic of the Bill that it did not meet
the grievance which was complained of. The first thing
which they should have done would have been to have
dealt with the arch-conspirator himself; it was the
duty of the Government to have secured his removal,
to, have met the conspiracy in a manner which would
s
hew that this country was determined to baffle it. But,
instead (4 that, Government had adopted a course'
tla
culilteed the reverse. In the first place, they had
making the slightest reference to the causes
that demande.ztleit, and the form of legislation there-
fore which
h
like petty they
yu recommended assumed something
persecution.—(Hear, hear.) Now,
if Parliament had
the removal of suPPorted the Minister in securing
the
head of the conspiracy against
civil and religious libert if the Minister had laid
down a principle for itsyleoisaion, which would have
brought under the constitutocontrol of the Sovereign
all those who assumed civil oraleccesstical titles from
petty without having re rom
foreign
petty mode of legislating they
ieraatindicated the
would have to this
Wouolras,hand laid
honour of the country, baffled the cons-
down a principle of legislation vvhiehl3
pre-
vented a recurrence of the insult. He now came toatvhe
con-
sideration of the various amendments before theme -reference to these circumstances. These with
amendments
were considerable in number, but though considerable
in number, they combine themselves under two heads.
There were those that took the right course, that sought
to connect their legislation with the cause that
had produced it, and which in the Government scheme,
was studiously concealed, which recognised what had oc-
curred as a political evil, and which sought to apply a
political remedy. There were, on the other band, amend-
menets of a very different kind, which attempted to make
that fficient legislation which was essentially ineffective,
which did not seek to connect their legislation with the
circumstances that had occasioned it, which did not
seek to apply a political remedyto
a political evil,
but, on the 'Contrary following up what be thought to
but, the erroneou n-OlicyoftheGovernment. Now all
those amends'
and declared vents,ELro which were open and independent,
and the country the reason why
they were undertakingpethts legislation, and which would 1
make the Bill what it re Ittought to be, . I
a retaliatory
act, intended to preventa recurrence of a gross in-
sult—those amendmenats which proposed to apply a poli-
tical remedy end'
amendineuts
Political evil, he should
support. The other
. were sanctioned
by the Honourable Gentlemen who
wished the Bill
to apply to England without extending it to Ireland.
Now under no circumstances would he consent to l
legislation to England without extending it to Irealppd
The question before them was, how
they could mai an y
'
the supremacy of the Sovereign. That was the , hum' 1
only real
question before them, and to answer it by day they
inc,
would assert the authoriks- of the Sovereign in One er-t
of the kingdom without exter ding it to the other
to follow.
woulda
be a most impolitic end injurious course
Now the second class of amendments partook very much
of that character, and therefore, in coming into COOl.
mittee on this Bill, he felt it to be his duty to support
any amendment, from whatever side of the House it came,
which coped with the real question they were called
upon to legislate against. He should support those
amendments which, as became a great nation, declared
the reasons why they took the step they were now
about to consummate, and he should support all

those amendments which would make the Bill a retalia-
tory act, so as to vindicate the honour of the Crown,
baffle the conspirators, and assert and maintain the real
cause of civil and religious liberty.—(Hear, hear.)
He could not, however, feel it expedient to support
amendments the only object of which was to render
efficient that which was essentially inefficient. The scheme
of the Government was not only inefficient, but
vexatious too, and calculated, he thought, to
produce general disgust and disaffection, and not at all
likely to vindicate the honour of the country, or to baffle
the conspiracy which, according to the announcement of
the Minister, was now threatening the civil and re-
ligious liberty of the land.—(Hear, hear.)
to LdoeordlarJe.
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not think that the question could be explained
Honourable
Government
considered
the words suggested by the Hon. Member for Midhurst,t
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but instead of placing them in the preamble of the Bill
to incorporate them in a separate clause. If the Bill
were passed, and any person openly assumed titles in
contravention of the law, it would be the duty of the
Government to put the law into operation.
The CHAIRMAN asked if it would be for the conve-
nience of the Committee that the preamble should be
postponed ?
Mr. KEOGH considered that the preamble should be
' first taken in order. The Noble Lord had said that he
had abandoned his own preamble to the Bill.
KEOGH—Thenon a n tdh e L
ea
Lord JOHN RUSSELL—No.
rn Nobleed Lord bae der o
forpte dthe preMamr.lele3the
Mid-
hurst—was not that so?
Lord J. RUSSELL had said that there were certain
words proposed by the Hon. and Learned Member (Mr.
Walpole) which he intended to adopt, but
pt, it was as a
distinct clause.
Mr. KEOGH understood the Noble Lord to say that
he intended to introduce a further recital into the pre-
amble. Was not that true?—(Hear.) Then the Noble
Lord said that he preferred the adoption of words sug-
gested by the Hon. and Learned Member for Mid-
hurst. It was little matter whether these words were
in the preamble or in a clause. The Noble Lord de-
clared that he intended to make serious alterations
in his own Bill—(Hear, hear)—that he intended to leave
out the second, third, and fourth clauses; and that the
Government would have a Bill with one clause, and that
there were other words to be introduced either as a pre-
amble or as a clause. Now, he put in to the House
whether they (the Irish Members) were called upon to
take any one step with respect to this Bill in its present
shape, and that, too, without being informed what was
precisely the Bill which the Noble Lord intended
to stand by.—(Lond cheers.) The Hon. Member
for Somerset, who had voted for the Bill, had informed
him that if there were no other person in that House to
make the motion he would move that the Bill should be
reprinted. Before they went one step further he said
the Bill ought to be reprinted.—(Hear, hear.) Again
he put it to the Noble Lord whether it was fair to the
Roman Catholics to persist in such a course as this.
They were bound not to allow the Noble Lord to go for-
ward with his Bill in its present shape and form. The
objections here were made for no purpose of delay; the
object was, on the contrary, to secure a fair and legiti-
mate progress with the measure before them—to have
that measure put in a clear and intelligible manner be-
fore them. It was not, he said, fair to that House, it
was not fair to the Roman Catholics, it was not fair to
the country, to attempt forcing on a discussion upon a
Bill which was not before them in a clear and intelli-
gible form.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL wished, he said, to make a pro-
posal to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, which, if he
should adopt, he (Lord J. Russell) would certainly abide
by. What he proposed to do was to leave out the clauses
to which he had before referred—to retain the first
clause—to adopt as a clause that part of the preamble
of the Hon. Member (Mr. Walpole) to which he had
before referred; then he put the preamble in the state
in which the Secretary of State said he was willing to
have it; to have the Bill printed and then to go into Com-
mittee on Monday, on the understanding that there would
be no debate on the question that the speaker leave the
chair. If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Member
for Midhurst would also consent to go into Committee
with the Bill as the Government proposed it, then, he
said, he should be willing to take that course.
Mr. KEOGH said the Noble Lord had made what
he was not prepared to say was not a very fair proposi-
tion, as he understood the Noble Lord merely proposed
that the Bill should be reprinted ; but that when
before them it would be open to them to offer any oppo-
sition which they thought was called for.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the Hon. and Learned Gen-
tleman had entirely explained his meaning. When the
Bill was reprinted, the whole question would be open
for discussion.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. GRATTAN protested strongly against this insane
and trumpery species of legislation, and was proceeding
to inveigh with considerable acrimony against the Go-
vernment, when he was interrupted by cries of " Order."
He retorted by saying there was no order in his country,
and called upon Lord John Russell not to include Ire-
land in the operation of the Bill. They were sending
off regiments to the Cape, but there was far more ne-
cessity to order them to Ireland to protect Roman Ca-
tholics from the attacks of Orangemen.—(Laughter.)
Mr. WALPOLE stated that he considered the course
proposed by the Noble Lord a reasonable one. What
they were now doing was going through the Committee
pro forma to enable the Government to reprint the Bill,
and accordingly the House would have before it the Bill
in that form by which the Government intended to abide.
—(hear.) That proposition he considered a reasonable
one. The Bill, as he understood it, would contain cer-
tain words of his preamble as its first clause; that which
was now the first clause would be the second clause, and
then the second, third, and fourth clauses would be
struck out, and the Bill in that amended form would then
came before them—(Hear)—leaving open to him to sug-
gest any amendments he might think needful. Ile ad-
mitted that there were great difficulties as to the in-
former's clause; bat he must stay that he found it diffi-
nult to accede to the Government proposition, and even
to his own amendment without some modifications.
With reference to an observation made by the Hon.
Member (Mr. H. Grattan), he said that if the Hon.
Member would convince him that in anything he pro-
posed there would be an interference with the spiritual
functions of Roman Catholic bishops and clergy, he
would give up his amendments.—(Hear, hear.) He
would, he declared, propose no amendment that would
interfere with the spiritual functions of the Roman Ca-
tholics.—(Hear.)
Mr. MOORE considered it was unnecessary for the
. Noble Lord in making his proposition to lay down a
condition as to the proceedings on Monday. They con-
ceived that an honourable understanding had been come
to, and the Irish Members would be the last in that
House to break it.
Mr. M. GIBSON suggested that the preamble might
be altogether omitted.
Mr. NEWDEGATE wished to know from the Noble
Lord whether he was about to take any steps with re-
spect to the appointment of legates by the Popo in
England and Ireland, as the functions of such persons
were purely of a temporal character.
Sir F. THESIGER suggested that there should be no
further discussion. It would be open for his Honourable
Friend in Committee to propose any provision he deemed
necessary to meet the difficulty and inconvenience he re-
ferred to. If the Government did not adopt his view, then
his Hon. Friend could propose an amendment of his
own. In Committee, he suggested, that in this, as in all
other Billie the preamble should be postponed until the
clauses were agreed to.
After a few words from Mr. J. REYNOLDS,
Lord J. RUSSELL suggested that it was better to
reserve any further discussion on the subject until
Monday.
The amendments were then inserted in the Bill, and
the House having resumed, the Bill was ordered to be
i re-committed on Monday.
COAL WHIPPERS' BILL.
On the order of the day for the second reading of
the Coalwhippers (Port of London) Bill,
Mr. HUME asked the Ministers to consider whether
the Bill was not opposed to the whole tenor of the free-
trade policy—whether they ought not to see that the pre-
sent system was injuring the coasting trade by transfer-
ring the traffic to the carrying trade of the interior ?
The Bill was then read a second time.
COMMITTEE OF MORTMAIN.

Mr. J. O'CONNELL moved that the &lect Coin
mitteo on Mortmain do consist of 18 Members ; that
Mr. Mouse)), Mr. Napier, and Mr. Keogh be added to
the Committee.
Mr. HEADLAM said he was the perso❑ on whose
motion the Committee was formed; as he did not direct
it against any particular religious community, he him-
self had no objection whatever.

Sir G. GREY said that the House had at an early
period of the present session agreed that the number of
Members forming Select Committees should be reduced
to
fifteen; and he thought that that rule should not bo
departed from without some special circumstances being
assigned as a reason for that coarse, as the rule bad been
r4tcl• to work well in securing the punctual attendance
from thf,?_
Members.
—Tile Earl of ARUNDEL and SURREY said there
soiftttihneg,s,onneni;
""e aPecial circumstances which called for the departure
strule
twhich was asked fur. He was a member
soother tneea and he had not been able to attend its
he did not know, from his being en-
gaged on
consid,o.mmittee, when he should be able to
attend
tilemil. the importance of the question
of mortmain to
eanalittee.
tho matter affected plan Catholic religion, and that
Lo
and as well as England, he
thought there ought
another Roman Catholic
Member or two on the Ci
pnrepared for any oppo-
ot be said that the
Mr. J. O'CONNELL
Learned Member
on the
sition to his motion. It could
expressed opinions in that
0(1 . Member for
Roman Catholics were adequately
Committee, as the Hon. and
Yougbal (Mr. Anstey) had
House extremely adverse to what Roman
con-
sidered their interest to be. Of the three gentlemen
whom he proposed, two were members of the ientilenlen
fession; one a Roman Catholic, the other a ProetsataPnro-
Lord J. RUSSELL said, if the Noble Lord (Lord
Arundel Arundel and Surrey) were disearged from attendance
on the Committee, he saw no objection to the name of
another Catholic Member being substituted,
The Earl of ARUNDEL and SURREY suggested
that the name of Mr. Keogh be substituted for his own,
Mr. J. O'CONNELL—Do you object to the name of
the Hon. and Learned Member for the University of
Dublin (Mr. Napier)?
Lord J. RUSSELL objected to the number of Membersthe
of the Committee being
fifteen. increased beyond

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For Mr. J. O'Connell's motion ... 38
Against it ... 94
Majority
The motion was accordingly lost.
THE METROPOLITAN COMMISSIONERS OF
SEWERS.
On the motion that the House at its rising adjourn to
Monday next,
Sir B. HALL wished to call the attention of the Chief
Commissioner of Sewers to a few facts of an extraordi-
nary nature with which be had become acquainted, as to
the conduct of business in the Court of the Commis-
sioners. They had jurisdiction over 8,500,0001. of pro-
perty for the purpose of levying rates, they had levied a
very large amount of rates, and their liabilities were
enormous. According to the Actander which the Com-
mission was constituted, they were bound to keep minutes
and records of all their proceedings with their seal at-
tached, and although their Court was a court of record,
he found, on applying at their office, that they had no
record in their minute-book whatever of their proceed-
ings from the 11th of October last to the present time.
Why, there was not a parochial vestry in the metropolis
that would dare to take such a step. They had levied a
rate of 110,000/. on property of the value of 4,000,000/.
sterling, and yet when he and his Noble Friend the
Member for Bath (Lord Ashley), who accompanied him
on the occasion, inquired as to the record or minute of
that proceeding, they found that no entry had been made
of it in the minute-book, and when he asked the officers
to see their manuscript minute-book, he was handed a
rough bit of paper, without any date or signature to
verity the order for levying that large rate; and the
paper, such as it was, was taken by the clerk from
amongst a confused mass of other papers, and he stated
that he did not know whether it was a minute belonging
to the proceedings of the committee or of the court; but
after some consideration the clerk concluded that it
belonged to the court. On his (Sir B. Hall's) asking
the secretary how it was possible that the business could
be conducted in such a way, that officer made the ex-
traordinary statement that the minutes of proceedings
were sent round to the different Commissioners, and
that he was obliged to trust to his memory for recording
the proceedings. That was the way the business of this
extraordinary Commission was conducted. His Noble
Friend and himself spent two hours and thirty-five
minutes in examining the mode of doing business by
the Commission, and it required the secretary, the
solicitor, and eight clerks of the board, to produce
the papers for them, in so hopeless and inextricable
and disgraceful a state of confusion were they.
Would the House believe that there was
no entry whatever in the book of a resolution of the
Court passed within the last few weeks recommending
that a sum of 10,000/. be borrowed at five per cent. for
fire years? Having desired to see the minutes of the
Court from January Ist to the present time, the answer
of the secretary was, " that those minutes had not been
entered." He (Sir B. Hall) then desired to see the rough
minutes, and the secretary said, " I will give them to
you, sir, but lam afraid that you will not be able to
make anything of them, they are so mixed up together,"
and certainly he never saw documents in such a dis-
graceful state of confusion. He would advise any rate-
payer who might be then listening to him to go to the
office and judge for himself of the way in which things
were done. In order that there might be no doubts as
to the accuracy of what he was now stating, he read
over the statement of facts which he now laid before
the House to the secretary, asking him, at the same
time, if he (Sir B. Hall) was mistaken on any one
point. He did that in order that any contradiction that
might come might be not against his words or that of
his Noble Friend, but against those of' the secretary.
And yet, with such a state of thing., the Noble Lord
(Lord Ebrington), in reply to a question of his a short
time back, stated with the utmost sang froid that a
rate of one million sterling on one side of the Thames, and
a million and a half on the other side of the river, was
to be levied for the purposes of improvement. He must
also mention a matter which affected that House. The
Commissioners having ordered their surveyor, Mr.
Joseph Smith, to make a report on the Victoria tiewer,
he (Sir B. Hall) having heard something respecting that
report which excited his attention, moved in the House
for a copy of it; but instead of the original report of the
surveyor which had been ordered by the House to be
produced, an amended counter-report, which had been
made by the engineer of the Commission, was produced
instead. He trusted that what he had said would in-
duce her Majesty's Government to take some steps with
regard to this Commission, for it was a disgrace to the
metropolis. The manner in which the Commissioners
kept their minutes had led to one lamentable result,
which was this—that whereas the liabilities of the lor•
mer Commissioners amounted when they came into
office to 58,195/., the liabilities of the present Commis-
sioners, owing to their miserable management, amounted
now to 135,3421.—(Hear, hear.) His Noble Friend
shook his head; but he (Sir B. Hall) held the document
in his hand, and the fact upon the face of it could not be
denied.
Lord EBRINGTON—So be it.
Sir B. HALL—His Noble Friend said "so be it,"
but the people had got to pay for it.—(Hear, hear.) He
hoped the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary for the
Home Department would, in accordance with the wishes
expressed by deputations at the Home-office, and by
certain of the metropolitan Members who had asked
questions respecting the Commission in that House,
bring in a Bill for the purpose of suppressing this useless,
this extravagant Commission, and of placing the Com-
missioners of Sewers upon a better footing; fur consider-
ing that there were eight millions and a half of property
upon which these men raised assessments, it was per-
fectly monstrous that their powers of raising so large a
sum should be of an irresponsible character.—(Hear.)
It his Noble Friend could deny the accuracy of these
statements let him do so; but, if he denied that, let him
recollect that he denied the statements of his own secre-
tary, not what be had read, because what he had read
had been taken down and authenticated at the office of
the Commissioners of Sewers.—(Cheers.)
Lord EBBING TON said ho had to solicit
from the House that indulgence which they always ex-
tended to those who had to answer such charges has had
been made on the present occasion.—(Hear, hear.) With
the exception of the last sentence but one of the Hon.
Baronet—that in which he expressed a wish that the
Commission should be placed on a better footing—there
was no other single statement which he should not be
obliged to deny, or give a different colour to, in the
course of his examination. Now, the first charge which
had been made was, that the Commissioners attended
hardly at all to the business of the Commission. Upon
this point he had to refer the Hon. Baronet to the Act,
which stated that the Commissioners should hold one
meeting in the month; twelve meetings in the year.
This was the total number of meetings required by the
Act of Parliament to be held. The Commissioners were
only twelve in number, half of whom, by the clumsy
legislation of that House, were required to be present to
constitute a quorum. The Hon. Baronet would see, on
reference, that the number of courts held last year was
32, aged that the number of Comnaitteeei was ?7.—(Hear.)
Phis gave an average of rather more than two courts
for every month. These courts were not primarily for
the consideration of the business of the Com-
mission; they passed those orders and decisions
which the Commissioners, after mature discussion and
consideration, had previously agreed upon; and, there-
fore, every single hour spent in these courts represented
a far greater number of hours spent in the deliberation
and consideration of the business of the Commission.—
(Hear, hear) Now, in order to give the House some
idea of the mass of business frequently transacted at one
single court, it was not necessary to state that the
printed minutes (90 and 100 pages in length) had fre-
quently to be copied with the formal minutes of the
proceedings of a single Committee, and that the same
number of pages had to be copied with the original
minutes.—(Hear, hear.) The Commissioners, in addi
Lion to their other arduous duties, were a court of jus-
tice also, entrusted with very large and complicated
jurisdiction. In the courts at Westminster the few
short words of the judges " For the defendant," had to
be translated by the officer of the court into a longer
minute; and in like manner a long translation had also
to be made at the office of the Commissioners of Sewers.
What was the course adopted by a very analogous body
to the Commissioners—namely, the Court of Quarter
Sessions, which consisted of a body of justices executing
important works, taxing the public, and at the same
time passing judicial sentences. The Hon. Member for
Oxfordshire (Mr. Henley) knew that in the case of an
indictment preferred against the inhabitants of a parish
for non-repair the words of the court required subse-
quent expansion on its records, and he (Lord Ebrington)
was acquainted with a case in which that record had not
been entered for months afterwards, because it was found
necessary to take legal advice as to the manner in which
the record should ultimately stand. The Commissioners
of Sewers had no other object in view but that of serving
the public. They were not sinecurists receiving large
salaries, but they were a body of gentlemen, almost all
of them having other public or private business to attend
to; and he was only astonished at the large amount of
time they bestowed on the enormous mass of business
coming before them.—(Hear.) He had already said
that the Commission of Sewers was a newly-constituted
body acting under a complicated Act—an Act of no
fewer than 146 clauses. They had to frame a new set of
laws, for they had no precedent under the old law of
sewers to guide them. They found the clauses of the
Act gave them power to do many things; still it became
frequently necessary to take legal advice as to the form
in which the formal record was to be entered on the mi-
nutes. The original record was kept in manuscript, and
whenever any delay ensued from the difficulty of ascer-
taining the shape in which the formal record should be
entered it was found necessary to delay the entry of all
subsequent matters also. The consequence was, that in
cases where 100 pages of manuscript had to be inserted
from time to time, errors of the sort mentioned by the
Hon. Baronet were unavoidable, and would necessarily
continuo to be unavoidable. For instance, requisite no-
tices had to be expanded in a complicated legal form,
several pages long.—(Hear.) Now,it was not true that
minutes were not kept, and carefully kept, of the pro-
ceedings of the Commission originated in Committee;
in the minutes of the Committee were to be found almost
invariably all the recommendations on which the pro•
ceedings of the Court were founded; and when these
proceedings were agreed upon, the minutes of them were
again submitted to the Commissioners for them to sanc-
tion and verify before they were finally recorded and
sealed with the seal of the Commission.—(Hear.) It
vereapsrotrtrtou.e that the report of the Victoria-street sewer—
the report of Mr. Smith—had been received upon the
g h t aconronuezethed
saline e day that the Commissioners directed their engi-
inspecthe
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9 preparethe c
Committee
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with wished to consult them:on
would
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draft with him on the sub-
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Baronet was, therefore, not justified in saying that the
report obtained by the House was not a correct report,
for long before the time the order of the House was
made—the 10th of April—the engineer's report had
been ordered. So much, then, for the impropriety, or
fraud, or evasion charged upon the Commissionerswith
reference to the order of the House.—(Hear.) Now,
when he interrupted the Hon. Baronet respecting the
alleged financial position of the Commissioners, he did
so on this ground, that the statement did not contain its
financial position at present, though it did set forth ac-
curately its financial position at the time it bore date.
The liabilities were what they appeared on the face of
the papers laid on the table of the House,
but at the present moment a very considerable re-
duction had been made in them, a great part of
the rates having been now collected.—(Hear, hear.)
The expenses of management for the former commission,
during the eleven months of 1847, averaged 6s. 7d. per
cent. on the rental of the district within their active
jurisdiction, and the management expenses of the pre-
sent Commission during six months of the past year bad
been 3s. 11d. per cent. on the rental of their district.
The clumsy legislation of the House had been such as
to prevent persons from lending money to the Commis-
sion, and they had been obliged to make a rate of 6d.
in the pound for the purpose of carrying on some most
necessary works in wretched streets in their district.
They had executed works to the extent of 200,0001. last
year; and their drainage north and south of the metro
polis had been done at a less cost than their predeces-
sors had paid. They had nothing to conceal. They in-
vited investigation into their proceedings; and if the
Hon. Baronet would bring forward a motion in a fair
and tangible shape, and take a vote of the House upon it,
they would willingly appeal from the vestry of Mary-
lebone to the Commons of England.—(Cheers.)
Mr. HUME said that nothing which had fallen from the
Noble Lord who had just sat down would make up for
the irregularity with which the accounts were kept.—
(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Baronet (Sir B. Hall) had not
imputed criminality, but he bad shown that the accounts
were in such a state of confusion as to justify the com-
plaints made by the inhabitants of Marylebone.—
(dear.) He (Mr. Hume) had heard that the Victoria
sewer had been executed by the Commissioners at an
expense of 50 car cent. above the estimate; and there-
fore he sincerely hoped the Government would inquire
and ascertain whether the Hon. Baronet's charges on
the present occasion were correct.—(Hear.)
Lord EBRINGTON denied that the accounts were
in a state of contusion.
The subject here dropped; and the motion that the
House at its rising should adjourn to Monday was put
and agreed to,
The House adjourned at a Quarter to Eight o'clock.

fined 28s to 28s 61 having been accr,pted caused a good
business to be done. Nitrate of Soda met with a 81°%
B,le and not above 148 3ti per cwt can be obtained for
large parcels.

COCIIINEAL.—To-day the public sales of 170 bag
Cochineal went off flatly, and not above one-half sold at
barely late rates; kw to good Honduras silvers went a:
3s ld to 3s Bd, black 3s 6d to 4s 4d, fine 4s 5d to 4s Bd,
Mexican black 3s 6d; 200 chts Lac Dye a =all Part
oniy sold at is 4d to is 10d, low and mid 6d to 1041
134 bls Bengal Safflower all sold at 3/ to 81for low 10,
fine; 1,000 bgs Cutch taken in at 235; 1,000 pkgs
Turmeric 17s 6d to 18s 6d.
TALLOW.—This afternoon the public sales of 600 casks
Sydney went off lastly; Sheep at 35s to 36s 6d, Ox 34/
to 351 6d. The value of fine Russian yellow Candle
37s 6,1 to 38s on the spot, and 38a 31 fur last three
months.
Ons —Although Southern Oil can be obtained at
28/ to 291 per tun, only small contracts have been cu.
terrd into. Seal is purchased with caution, and desire
is evinced to sell pale at 321 to 331, other sorts 291 to
31110 s. Cod met with a dull hale, and 371 is the value+
but this rate cannot be obtained for large parcels. Pr
Sperm the market has a quiet aspect, and holders are
more disposed to sell, good to fine at 851 to 87/ per tal3:
fleadnaritter is yet scarce and held for 901 to 931:1:
there are few buyers. Palm has been operatad ith
caution, and fine is selling at 28s; there will be 1101C0
delivery
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Linseed
and rates continuo to give way, ruling at 31s 91:14%,3
s
32s 3d. The demand isdaonnPoeitu,nbt: u. supply of
belles
ed Ott,
although brown can be obtained at 31s 6d to 325, Pale
33s to 33s 6d, and refined 345. Cocoa Nut Oil Aa
con-
tinues to attract little attention, and is offend
for Ceylon
OanlidveCoocihi iins,dweahlitlsint
with eau.
there is
n 2 o 8 s to
decrease3ls lenfldtiert hfeorrel
Ratie°sel
tion. Gallipoli at 39/ to 401, and other sorts 3711"
to 38/ 10s.

SHIP NEWS.
GRAVESEND, MAY 16.—Wind S., light, fine. (in
Arrived—Summerer, from Calcutta; Nereid, itoo
Jamaica; General Hewitt, from Sidney; Gilbert, from
Launceston ; Parrock Hall, from St. Kitt's; Bells p;
tens, from Ceylon; Sir Robert Peel, from Harlingeo
Lady Rebow, from Lisbon; City of Rotterdam,
Dunkirk; Dunkirk; John Bull, from Hamburgh; City of Boo'
logne, from Boulogne.
Sailed—Samuel Boddington, for Port Adelaide; Yill;
of Paris, for Boulogne—City of London, for Dlle/"T„:
Mary Montague, Cairo, and Islander, for Janka`°—
Zarah, for Singapore; Ruckers, for St. Vincent's.
VESSELS SPOKEN WITH.
$
Trident, from Cork for Quebec, May 1, in lat. 4-
4
long. 30 W.
Seppings barque, of Brdgewater, from London fbr
Manilla, March 2, in lat. 19 S., long. 28. Aatil
Clara Symms, from New Orleans for Liverpool,
26, in lat 5 N., long 27 W. in
Ann, of Exeter, from Cardiff for Quebec, April 17,
lat. 43 N., long. 40 W. • Al
Alliance, from Liverpool for Hong-Kong, Feb. 23, In
26 S , long. 25 W.
Sea King, bound west, in lat. 46 N., long. 21 W.
Inconstant, from Liverpool, in lat. 2 N., long. 22 w•
Andrew Marvel barque, April 2. in lat. 5 N., long 235ai
Kate barque, from Liverpool for Valparaiso, on the
of April, in lat. 18 S., long. 33 W.
Squantum, of Boston, United States, from Liverpool for,
New Orleans, on the 30th ult., in lat, 30 N., long. 49 I'd,
Baronet barque, on the sth inst., in lat. 42 Nos long
33 W.
Senator, from Calcutta for London, on the 6th lug'', is
lat. 43 N., long. 32 W.
John Oldham, from Manilla for Cork.
Agnes, from London to the Bermuda Islandsva
Nassau, New Providence, on the 7th inst., in let. 48 S''
long 14 W.
oid
British Isles, from the Clyde for Singapore, on the'—
of March, in lat. 6 N., long. 24 W. St. John, from New York for Liverpool, on the 13th ; .131
Charles Jones, on the Ist of April, in let. 6 ,j
long 27 W.
John Buchanan, for Sydney, on the 4th inst., in lat. 41
N., long. 11 W.
Garland, from Jamaica for London, in long. 8 W.
Severn, on the 23d of March, off L'Agulhas.
• Reliance, from the Mauritius for Cork.
Union barque, and Tropic ship steering 8,W,, on Ihe
20th of April, in lat. 19 N , long. 35 W.
Highlander, from Callao, and Factory, from Jamaica for
n%
Sierra Leone, on the Ist inst., in let. 32 N., long 37 5
Mtrtha, standing westward, on the Bth inst., in lat.
N., long. 24 W.
Spartan, from Mobile for Liverpool, on the 20th of
April, in lat. 33 N., long. 69 W.
Que. n, of London, steering,ouch-eai t, on the 30th nit"
in lat. 42 N., long. 41 W.
Marquis of Chandos, bound west, on the 7th of May, in
let. 47 N., long. 19 W.
Astley shit', bound west, on the 6th inst.,
long. 16 W.
Mount Edgcumbe, from London for Adelaide, on the 5
of March, in long. 26. in Ist. 48 14"
Mermaid, rom Falmouth for Swan River, in long. 28.
Edward, for the westward, on the 15th of April, in 10'
39 N , long. 13 W.
Inca, of Liverpool, standing to the south-east, on the
21st nit., in let. 34 N., long. 15 W.
A small schooner, No. 2,983, on the 21st ult., in let. 34
N., long. 15 W.
Chebhire Witch, for Mussel Bay, on the 22d ult,, off
Porto Santo.

SEABORNE MAILS..
[N signifies that the mails are sent from the General Pestmotnel
}y the night—and M by the morning—dispatch,]

When made up in II From what wben
PLACES. General Post-oftice port die- dim
London. ii patched.
--.......
--
America (by Brit. pkt.)N May 23 .. .. Liverpool .. May
,20
America (by U.S. pkt.) li May 27
.. .. Liverpool . May l
America (by IJ.S.pkt.) M May 21 .. .. Southaaapt. May 16
Attica (West coast).. N 14th of the month Plymouth Jane 3
Alexandria* ........ N 19th & 30th of mo. Dover .. May 18
Belgium • • .. •• N Daily .. .. .. Dover .. Daily
Brazil .. • .. M 9th of the month Southampt. June 12
Buenos Ayree .. .. 3119th of the month Southampt. June 12
California(viaChagres) 32 17th of month Southtunpt. May 20
Cape of Good Hope N 14th of month Plymouth.. Juno 3
Constantinople* .. • • N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. May '2O
Central America •• M2d & 17th of mon. Southampt. Jane 5
Channel Isles • • .. NiMon., Wed., &Fri. Soutkampt. Tu. T 12.5 a
Chili .. .. • • • M,l7th of the month Southampt. May 20
France .. .. M& N; Twice daily .. .. Dover .. Tvricedaili
Greece* • • • • • • Nl7 th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. May 20
flamburgh .• .. N Tuesday & Friday London .. Tues. Sat.
Holland .. • • .. MI Wednes. & Satur.!Londen .. Mom.Tha
Honduras .. .. . N 17th of the month!Bouthampt. May 20 ~...
Ireland .. •• M & NlTwice daily .. .. (Holyhead .. Twteedauf
India (via Southamp.) 31,20 th of the month'Southanipt. May 23
India (via Marseilles) 1717thez 24th ofmonth lkiver .. May 17
Mediterranean (via I
Southampton) •• M 20th of the month Southampt. May 23
vediterranean (via ' I
Marseilles) .. .. N 7th& 24th ofmonth Dover .. May 17
Mexico .. • • .. Mr2d of the month.. Southampt. June... 3
Madeira • • .. M 9th of the month Southampt. June 12
Malta.
..
.. Nr 17th,17th,19th,27thj Dover May 1g
i 1 & 30th of month
Naples* .. • • • • N Oth 15th 25th ofmo Dover .. MAY 11
Papal States* .. .. .N!51.1t 15th 25th of mo Dover .. ,May 22
Peninsular.. . .. .. M 7th 17th 27th of mo Southampt. May 24
Peru .. .. •• M 17th of the month Bouthamot. May 20
Tuscany* • • .• • • N sth 15th 25 lit ()fru° Dover .. May 22
Wont Indies .. .. M 17th of the month Southampt. !May 20
War. T... 11.... 1-___ . 1

!7th& 24th ofmonth
12d of the month..
19th of the month
7th,17th,19th,27th,
. & 30th of month 3
Naples* .. • • • • N sth 15th 25th ofmo Dover
Papal States*
.N sth 15th 25th ofmo Dover ..
Peninsular.. . M 7th 17th 27th of mo Southampt.
Peru .. •• M 17th 01 the month Southamot.
Tuscany* • N sth 15th 2511 i of mo Dover • •
West Wiles M 17th of the month Southiumpt. -
West Indies (except M
I
Havanna & Nassau) 2d of tho month .. SouthamPt. (dune
* The malls to those countries thus marked (*) are conveyed by
French packet v?a Marseilles.
CALtroaxia.—Malls to and from California, via the United *tat*
are now despatched and due by evory American Packet.

RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS.
BRISTOL, MAY 16.

. .
86—Ditto, New 171. Shares, 141,4^-
STOCK ExcHANGE.7.The transactions to-day were as fol..
Eastern and Dover, 26 3-16.
LliTEEPout., MAT 16.
CHANGE.—The share market has been rather
Szocx Ex
better to-day than at the close yesterday ; but we are stil
MlowidiandGrSetaotckl,Vse9s
weak, with not much doing. The transactions were as fol-
-terstuth.
low : - Caledonian, 14 946—East Lancashire, 15 LA. c--Lan-
cashire and Yorkshire, 60%1 nitto, 6 per cent., Preference,
11/2 dis.—London and North-Western, 1251/2 c.—Ditto, New
Quarters, 4t p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 31
—Midland, 6014—Ditto, Halves, 143/4 dis.—Northern Union
(A), 240—South-Eastern and Dover, 261,4—Y0rk and North
Midland, 25—Newry and Enniskillen, 5 dis.
MANCHESTER, MAI' 16.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—There was a slight reaction in the
market to-day, and prices were better, but bi*iness was
extentamount.
to - d aTy The rumours
rteh
aes follliabilities
oow f defalcation:aiEsansat rnA en lalitaanrse:ooN eovcT limited
he con-
firmed,tra transactions
de
titohnes
- Great Northern.,
Preference, '49 (7 per cent.), 7'4l—East Lancashire, 154 U.
London and .Nortn-Western, 125,,2 Ditto, Manchester and
1814—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 59%--
Birmingham, Quarters (C), 234 p.:- Manchester, Sheffield,
and Lincolnshire, to n.—South-Eastern and Dover, 24.
41
DER

MAY 13.—We obseria that a few friends
a
of
v Mr. George Waters, at Lowestoft, have presented him with
ery handsome testimonial of their imation of bis
snuff
while stationed amongst them. It is awry nice silver snuff-
box, beautifully executed, and bears the following inscription
on the lid : " Presented to Mr. George Waters by a few
friends of Lowestoft, as a mark of their regard and esteem,
May Ist, 1851."

BIRTHS.
OF A SOX.

On the 11th inst., at olv;rlev-house, Worcestershire, the
lady of F. W. Knight, Esq., M.P., of an heir
On the 13th inst., at Charlton Marshall, Dorsetshire, the
wife of the Rev. H. D. Heatley.