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BRUSSELS PAPERS.

CHAMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES, DEC. 24.
The order of the day was the debate on the Budget of the
War Department.

M. Gendebien_Before proceeding to discuss the several
chapters of this Budget, we should be fully aware of our poli-
tical situation both at home and abroad, for the sum voted in
the Budget must be regulated accordingly. I shall, therefore,
make some observations to the Minister for Foreign Affairs
relative to the answers which he gave to the questions put to
him in the Senate. You know that the. Wellington Admi-
nistration is formed, that the whole Ministry is Tory, and very
decidedly so. At the commencement of the Belgian revolu-
tion such a Ministry was in power. Let us see from its acts'
at that time what we may expect from it now. Let us read
the speech of the King of England, which is that of the Tory
Administration, and which was delivered in Parliament on
the 2d of November, 1830. It is there stated that it is with
profound regret that the King has seen the deplorable
events in the Netherlands—that he has seen with pain
that the enlightened Government of King William had
not been able to preserve his dominions from revolt,
and that the wise and prudent measure of submitting the
wishes and complaints of his people to an extraordinary as-
sembly of the States-General has not led to a satisfactory re-
sult. " I endeavour," says the King, "in concert with my
allies, to devise means to restore tranquillity, which shall be
compatible with the prosperity of the Government of the Ne-
therlands, and with the future security of the other States.
I am persuaded that my determination to maintain, in concert
with my allies, the general treaties by which the political system
of Europe has been established will be the best security for the
peace of the world." Thus it is clear that it was intended to
maintain the treaty of 1814, which established the kingdom of
the Netherlands. But the Tory Ministry was overthrown,
because it was obliged to yield to the sympathy of the English
people for the French and Belgian revolutions, because it was
necessary to allay the enthusiasm which was everywhere at its
height, and recourse was had to the Doctrinaires as well as
in France—that wonderful specific for wearying the people or
exhausting their courage. Now, the same men, the same
ideas, the same desires prevail. As for the King of England
personally, he has, as King of Hanover, never recognised the
existence of the nationality of Belgium, even when he had
Whig Ministers ; what will he do now that he has a Altnlstry
whose opinions resemble his own—a Ministry
all things to his person, to his prejudices'' After all, what
did the Grey Administration do ?+
sons attach dP.7voted above
did not wish for war,
or to burden the treasury to mill-
it nevertheless negotiati-ui -e a war on the Continent, but
for the return of the Prince of
Orange in 1831. -
an that in so open a manner that the per-
d
dee- to the English Legation at Brussels could not
the intrigues thut had been carried on for that purpose.
I know that the Tory Ministry has yet to undergo the ordeal
of a general election, but that does not ensure to us complete
success, and in the meantime the danger is great. King Wil-
liam feels the necessity oft acting as soon as possible, because
he cannot longer depend on the States-General, which are
tired of making- sacrifices. On the other hand, the Wellington
Administration must wish the attempt to be made, because
if King William should invade us a second time, and get
possession of the whole or a part of Belgium, we should
be told that it is a fait accompli, and the Whigs would
very probably join the Tories in this, because there pre-
vails in England a general apprehension of the incorpo-
ration of Belgium with France. The Minister told the
Senate that the treaty of November 15 is the basis of
our political rights. (M. Gendebien here endeavoured to
show that there is a bilateral treaty, and not having been
signed by one of the two parties, does not in any manner
bind the five Powers under whose guarantee it was placed. )
The Minister said that Belgium ought to be able to maintain
itself alone—that it needs no assistance in case of an attack ;
but if we should have to do with the German Confederation
at the same time as with Holland, Belgium would resist, but it
would be overpowered ; for the Wellington Administration
will not make war with the Confederation ; and France,
placed under the disgraceful yoke of the Doctrinaires, would
not venture to defend us. lam certain that if it were pro-
posed to the Chamber of Deputies to abandon Belgium to it-
self, four-fifths of the votes would be in favour of the proposal.
M. Nothomb observed that the treaty of 1815 is modified by
that of 1881 ; that the English Ministry, adhering to existing
treaties, must consequently maintain the nationality of Bel-
gium ; that the Wellington Ministry renounced, in 1830, the
system of war which is now ascribed to it; and that the Ger-
man Confederation will derive an advantage for ceding to
Belgium the part of Luxemburg which belongs to it, because,
while the Confederation retains its military frontier in Luxem-
burg, it will acquire another military frontier in Limburg.
The Minister of Foreign Affairs replied to some of the re-
marks of M. Gendebein.
M. Gendebein asked, if in case of an invasion of the whole of

Luxemburg by the German Confederation, the intervention of
France in favour of Belgium might be relied upon ?
The Minister for Foreign Affairs said that, by the existing
treaties, France would be obliged to intervene, and that there
is no reason that it would violate these treaties by not
intervening.
The Sitting was adjourned till Friday, on which day the
discussion was continued.

Dechamps made a long speech, in which he developed
his views of the political situation of Belgium, in which he
agreed with M. Nothomb.
M. Gendebien asked the Minister to reply to the questions
which he put to him the day preceding in Writing.
(No other particulars of this sitting are given.)
DECEMBER 26.

The order of the day being the debate on the budget of
the Minister of War, M. Gendebien desired that the diplo-
matic question should be discussed before the articles of the
budget. He said that he had yes' erday sent in writing to
the Minister of Foreign Affairs several questions relative to
the political situation of 13elgium4 aucl as the Minister had

7. Has it received any such communications from the French
Government, either directly or through our Ambassador ?—No.
8. Will France and England intervene together or separately in
the conflict which seems to threaten Luxemburg ?
9. Will France or England interfere alone, if one of the two
should object ?—I must refer to the answer to a similar question
asked on Saturday last. I can only answer, that in ease of an in-
vasion neither France ncr England would be wanting in the gua-
rantee which they have promised us. As a Minister of the King,
I could not be allowed to reason on the hypothesis of the violation
of the engagements of these two Powers towards Belgium. I think
that an invasion, or a real threat of invasion, would be casus
fiederes which would authorize us immediately to claim their as-
sistance.

10. Does not the Ministry think that France and England should
be asked for a positive declaration of their intentions of intervening
in the conflict which threatens Luxemburg ?—No ; especially so
long as the hypothesis of the Deputy of Mons is not confirmed.
11. Does the Belgian Government engage to refuse the evacua-
tion of the part of Luxemburg which is to be ceded, before King
William has accepted the treaty of the 15th of November ?—Ac-
cording to the convention of the 21st of May, which confirms the
uti possidelis according to the act of ratification of the Ist of June,
1833, Belgium is maintained in the provisional eossession of those
parts of Luxemburg and Limburg which, according to the treaty of
the 15th of November, are to belong to Rolland.
M. Nothomb having made sorot observations on the nature
of the Tribunal of Arbitratin, which is not intended to be a
political congress, as sprite have commonly supposed, the gene-
ral discussion was closed, and the Chamber proceeded to dis-
cuss the sevin-al articles of the budget of the War Department.
A !titer from Ostend informs us that the Duke of Leueh...
tenberg has bespoken apartments in the hotel of M. Doussaint.
He is expected there at the end of the month with a nunrarous
suite.—Brussels Pupers, Dec. 22.
NCREMOURG, DEC. 19.—1 t is understood that the Duke of
Leuchtenberg will leave Munich on the 3d January, to go by
way of London to Lisbon.
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The resolution of the German Diet, prohibiting young men
from going to the Universities of Zurich and Berne, has been
duly promulgated at Dresden.—..Nuremburg Correspondent,
Dec. 20.