The Sun.
London, England, 1802-02-24 00:00:00

DEBTORS.

Mr. W. WYNNE, moved the Order of the Day
for the House to resolve itself into a Committee on
• the Bill , to. extend the provisions of the 32 Geo.
11, commonly called the Lords',Mt;
On the, Question for the SP gAKEit'§ leaving the
Chair,
Mr. NICHOLLS said, he understood it was the
principle of the Bill, to extend the Bankrupt Laws
to every individual in the country. As the law
now stood, if judgment was obtained, against any
person, the personal property of that- indiVidual
was liable to be *old under such judgMent, The
freehold property might also be taken possession
of, but could only he held until the debt was-dis.
charged. It had always been. the policy of the law,
and it was supported by a long course of judicial de.
sasron, that, Freehold' Property could n,t be sold
Untleny. a judgment., This Bill went to operate an
enttre change if; the law, upon this subject, a ch;ifige
whicli he thought highly inexpedient, whilSt it
placed the creditor in a better situation than when
he made the loan ; and he could -not see the equity
of altering the contra 4 between the. parties. He
trusted the House would weigh the subjea very
cautiously before they passed a Bill to extend the
Bankrupt Laws to every man possessed of Landed
Property. If the Bill passed,', -it would tend, 'in a
great measure, to destroy all settlements Of-Landed
Property 5. as in the case of a person settling his
Estate to lriMself for life, and after his decease to
his first and other sons, according to the usual form
of such settlements, . a Creditor might,- by virtue
of this Aa, sell the Life Estate, .and thereby pre.
chide the party, at any future period, from bat.;
ring remainders. Assignees might under this Bill,
sell what they pleased ; this formed another Wong.
objeaion to it. There was still another case he
wished to put ; if a jutivment was obtained, and
afterwards reversed,,still the sales which had taken
place under that judgment were valid, the patty
injured. having only his aaion against the Sheriff.;
this was unclbnbtedly a
,wise policy, as if the sales
under a judgment were to be set.aside, because.that
judgment Was reversed, no sale of that nature
could ever take place, as' no person would buy
under such circumstances ;. it was better therefore
that an individual should sustain some injury than
the Public suffer. This however, only extended
to personal property, and surely the- House were
not prepared to say, that if landed -property was to
be sold under a judgment, which was afterwards
reversed, that, the:Owner should have merely the
same remedy, and should not be entitled to recover
back, specifically, that property ; but this must be
the operation of the Bill. It might happen, that
land In d' distant part of the country, which had
descended to its possessor through a long' line Of
- •
anpstors, might be extremely valuable to its
‘,Wner, and yet fetch little or nothing at market.
He was convinced, :hat this Bill, if passed into a
law, would give the greateit blow .to the' landed
interest of the country. „How was it possible for-
Courts of. Justice to adjuit and, settle the . claiMs pt.
different creditors ?‘ It was absolutely impoisible
they could do it ; anti why was it taken out of the
hands of a Court of Equity, who knew how to do
it, and who would do 'it ? He repeated, that the.
Bill'would,- in its oPeration; extend the, Bankrupt.
Laws to every individual ,in the country, '. and
though he respeaed the motives -which induced the
Hdn. gentleman (Mr. WvisricE) to bring forward
this measure, yet he Could not give his concurrence
to such a Bill ; and whilst he hoped_that the Hon.
Gentleman would consent to postpone the cons;.
deration of it for a few days,. he trusted at the
same time, that thoie. Hon. Gentlemen, who were
more peCuliarly , conversant with the laws of their
country, would attend its discussion,. and give it
every mature consideration, that so 'important a
subject demanded.
Mr. ALEXANDER said, he rose to concur in
opinion with the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. NI ts)
who had, anticipated the greater part of what he
had intended to say upon the subjeet. The House
must be aware that this Bill, if passed, would alter
entirely the principle of the laws relative to.
_Debtor and Creditor, and, would extend the 'Bank-
rupt Laws, as stated by the Hon. Gentleman, to every
individual in the Country. The Bankrupt Laws
were founded upon the peculiar circumstances of
Trade, but under, those laws the property of the
Bankrupt was proteaed by Assignees, and it had
been found absolutely 'necessary to constitute a sort
Of. inferior Court on .each Bankruptcy to adjust and
settle the respeaive claims.on the estate. But how •
were Courts of law, loaded as they were already
with a multitude of business, to adjust and settle
the numerous claims of Creditors upon an individual
ebiniq within the pro Visions of this Bill? The
House were called upon, in the present instance, -to .
change the whole provisions of the Law. If the
whole property of an individual was to be sold -
under the present Bill' by any ,of hiS Creditors, ihe I
ma be proteded against other demands ; in short

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them must be the same guards as in tilefir -rely
Binkruptcy. The Bill in fart proceeded Llint.
upon ,the principle of an extension of the Blini‘trania
LaWS to every class and description of person jo
he entirely concurred with the ,Hon. Gentlem an
his opposition to it.
Mr. W. WYNNE saki, he had been
with bringing for,lVard this measure • incautious
and unadvisedly ; he could only say,,. that he 112,5
submitted • the measure to persons, whose opini;
on such a subjea were entitled to ithe highest hat
sped, and 'by whom it had been Approved, and !,;i1
he had given notice during thell,rt, ,Sessiony 'lo
intention of bringing it.- before the "House, •
but
consequence of the advanced periOd` of that Ses.sl°,h'e
Ile had deferred it till the present. He brought
Bill some time ago, when it was printed, and 4tibe
been in the hands of every Gentleman d;ring ,
greater part of that time; he thought,-thirefore,
would have been enabled to form an opinion uPonl,i;
chargse.(!..
!as that however did not appear to be the easel0,
shotic&riiit press for a Committee atthepresent n'tifc
ment, lie could not see 'those evils likely to risi
from the'Bill which some Gentlemen appreh'nde‘ac
!it was not to be supposed that Gentlemen of,lirsof
:landed property would lie' in gaol for the'sakeck,
refusing to pay a debt ; but if any one chose 1.11
so, what in that case was to become of the Creel to
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brances upon it. Hperocpoenrctyludevditt,lb;l4:6l:l"(l;6rd'lbge
his Motion, and moving that the Bill shOr
committed to Tuesday next..----Areecito•
gOOKSELLERS AND •PIUNTERS. hjs
Mr. SHAW .I.4FEVRE postponed making et
promised -Motion relative to the. Pet.krion'°'
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WE. this rnop,iing 'received the Dutdi
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the Ir4;eligence of any importance. which
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tains, has been anticipated by the French j'Per

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Fu.o :v.- a conversation which took place• Dice.
'in' the *l-I.Suse-o—r Corrilcons, tne Public"rl Treyi;ll
~e
to find, that the Court of Den„has
fully acceded to, and ratified the Converai°r) wl'
the Nortiketil Powers. Thus, while our frt. 010
n strato are wisely struggling to pot an el'
miseries incidental on a long and perilous C°lll
fl
they have, at the same time, secondecl:olo!Edsi
of the -by suctr-Travldent7 roaaK
as must ensure a lasting Peace, withoutC°u"e- 7yA
tion from the honour and charader of our ~010
and withoOt any' departure from the great prific.
which we f.OPid necessary to assert by Arms'

Two 1147nburglx Mails. remain due. cOf
Their MAJEsTrEs and the PRINCESSEs
to town yesterday from Windsor.
at Sr'
His MAJEsTr held a Levee tills day
James's Palace.
COri:e Miss ADD I NGTON, tne Jiangnter of viOP-
CELLoR of the EXCHEgUER, though fl°r
List night, is in a very_ dangeroug 6ulte'r CO(/'
CHANCELLOR of the EXCH.EQIIER, WC 'ehicliP
a
g cerned to inform our Readers, -is also relY
)osed,

'Lord'OARDNER, it is suttil*sed,. be 050
a Peer of the Imperiar Parliament, in which
iself
Major EI..LIOT, it is said; means to ofler ljln
for-WeFtminster.
rgis
We, hear Mr. Alderman firBBERT inge ne".‘"
offer himself as atandidatc for the City at Of
E eEtion, and, that he to be rettioe" Sig
'The c risr
,
'The Proclamation of Tcltiss'Airrr must."•"l,-/trl,
dered as an x.ra in the History of the /4e'vfia: r)_° 1;
If, indeed,- it be the Im:due-lion of ibis 'i":f21111),,
.must be -apparent to eierY 'One, that he 11a5 5"
equal to the arduous situation which. lie
for long. filled.- It is equally distinguished and )5
gance, perspicuiiy, and sound MoralitY
worthy of.the head and heart of an Eiiropean --eP;ev
man. If the sentiments of TOussAiNT be try ill
by the COlonisti With that temper and s°bl:iciliAl
-
Which they are evidently written, the 14°1-00
filament will experience but little difficutqi-or til4
restoration _of tranquillity in that region ; his
Proelamation is better calculated to 'fulfil ri.-
jest, than an army of zo,ooo men. firesJ
Yesterday the LORD MAYOR Ordered tile jo the
to be lowered a whole assize, or two'-Pentenr ice ca
peck lOaf—to take place to-morrow ; the price
• jrk
the Quartern Loaf wheaten will then be I°4
hciusehold 91 reil
In consequence of a paragraph which offe;
this Paper yesterday 'respedting the Literary
we are desired to., state that not any sc"'-',/
taken place arricmg its-supporters, of 30;ile7the
ture, or • that is likely materially to a,,lr,e'-` Gent`;:i
terests of that laudable Institurion.:'''
man (certainly of great respe6fabilitY) e • v"a
notified his intention of quitting theSoeicero'ololo.l
this intention arises from a difference or. o'6o fd
On a particular subjed., between him and sited
his intimate. friends; who appear to be OPP.
a great majority of the Society. '
ortY 4
It is said that there are aauallY near if,
vate. Theatres in this metropOlis.. 1)".",,(1'51
can only suppose that' the Magistrates e 10c,e,%
quainted with. the pernicious effeets of thosej.bo,'"lo
which destroy.the., habits of iiidustryt .1° itCf3Y
many a juvenile follower of THES9IS ta a °-
cod.

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114T4171,LV 111.11 L.

BRUSSELS, Eta. 14.

ACCORDING to the last Letters from Amiens,
there is reason to hope that the Definitive Treaty
of Peace between arance, nollan'ci,' and
4g/and, will be concluded and signed in the
course of the ensuing month. By the same ad.
/ices) the approaching spring is fixed as the pt.
trod for the opening of a General Congress' of all
t11.0'4, firs' of Europe, Which is to be. held at the
safe Pla:ee. The Conferences between the Plenipo-
tentiaries at Amiens Were never so frequent and
g as at present; and their Correspondence with
tgeitrespeCtive Courts is proportionably alive,:

LLYDEN, FEB. 17.

:rBE Batavian Government has published the
Conditions of the Voluntary Loan of 3o millions,
ann°anced in our last Gazette. • The lenders are to
receive obligations, bearing 5 per cent. interest on
the amount of the sums advanced : there will also be
distributed amongst them, by way of Lottery, iz
nlillions of Obligations, bearing interest at zi per
cent. The fund apApriated for the payment of
the interest, and 'the discharge of the principal in
eight years, is an annual tax during that period, of
one half per cent. upon Capital, and two per cent.
upon Income.

HAGUE, FEE. 16.
LlonalirllE Members 'necessary to complete the Na.
Chainbef of Accounts, have already been
nominated at a private sitting,Body.of the Legislative
COUtit STAXELiEtto, His Rosiark majesty'4 Mi-
tister to our Republic, is shortly expefied here.
an Hotel
It is saiil that orders have already arrived to engage
for him at this
place.

tiTocKtioLm, F a. t.
Prlv have a a that
i. ns da •
-V-Ccounts from - a air
4.11 Swecirish *admit) which had sailed from Gwen.
161:¢ under Admiral CibERSDR.OM, had arrived
tbvre; 411", a voyage of twenty-eight days. •