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ritr(ll7-4tks ested--2e ancient ;Ira; hombirs;
The Noble Earl here entet an examination of the
operation of the proposed measure as it rewarded Glasgow,
in order to show that many of the inhabitants would be
es:eluded from the benefits of it, simply because they re-
lea in a particular district. Its operation on charitable
in.-itit:ens would be most unjust and injurious. Those
ins i utions had hitherto been under the management of the
Town Council, being burgesses; they were now to be left
wtohtahtee v
ecron introtl of 101.
heirlse
prosperity.
iou
Even
nletrhs who had
e,
Universities
ni t
ieo i s
ofnEtedriens!
burgh and Glasgow were threatened with danger. It was
well known that the Town Councils of Edinburgh and GI as -
gow, among other power and patronage which they enjoyed,
had the right of presentation to the established churches
in the city, and the gift of most of the Professorships of
the Universities. It was highly to the credit of the
Town Council of Edinburgh that they had seleteed
such individuals for the Professors' chairs a 4 to et- able
the University to hold the distinguished rank which it
held among the learned bodies of Europe. There was
some risk, therefore, that both the Church and the Uni-
versity might be damaged by the prop reed change. The
Magistracy, the Incorporate Trades, and the Burgesses
were all loud in their complaints against this Bill. The
Serech were a people that did not like to take a hip
in the dark. If a commisslon were appointed to i
vestigate the suhj ct, and legislation were to follow the
report of that commission, they would be much better
measure.satisfied
~dheed
by moving
h si.negrut hdaet th ill e
Bill dbeigersetae id!
eh doubted whether the
a sercii:endsitiammeutishaotrdailyusirxEmoionti
the preamble.
fthe Bill bore out the principle as stated in
The LORD CHANCELLOR brit fly replied. Ile con-
tended that there was no spoliation by the Bill of the
Burgesses, for the whole power of tie Corporation was
vested in the Council, to whose mismanagement the pre-
sent condition of the Scotch Corporations was owing--
a condition which had given rise to the measure then
on their Lordships' table. It was a gtosa end
grievous mistake to suppose that anything in the Bill
took away rights from the burgesses, are; transferred
them to the 10/. householders, tor, in point of fact,
the burgesses did not possess any such rights, and
had been without them for more than four c •nturites.
His Noble Friend had stated, that upon high legal autho-
rity, he had teen informed that the Scotch Corporation
Commission was nut according to law. He should an-
save that by observing, th it many similar Commissio'n's
hail a, different times been issued, and he referred to the
authority of the late Chief Baron, the Master of the
Roll, the late Lord Chancellor, and others, in support of
the position for which he contended, namely, the perfect
legality of the Commission—a Commission the, had been
called for by the Commons of England. His Noble
Friend said, let:the English Corporations look look to it.
He, too, should say, let the English Carporations look to
i —.the time bad come when they ought to set their
houses in order. Those who had administered the funds
intrusted to them carefully and conscientiously would, of
course, seek the most scrupulous investigation that coned
be instituted ; but, to his knowledge, there were nth, rs
who hail been guilty of the grossest negligence, ap-
proaching and amounting to corruption, and, in some
easea, to actual corruption. To these he should say,
let them set their lonises in order. There had been a
charge in:de that the Bill had been prepared without due -
care, and that an attempt was made to hurry it through
that House with breathless has e. It was not their fault that
the pressure of other business had delayed it in the Coin..
mons ; and as to its having been prepared without diet
care, he should only say, that it received the apprehatien
of the fifty Scotch Delegates, expressly appointed for its
considerati n. Was that an answer to the charge of
breathless haste There was hardly a measure whirls ever
came before that House, to which the charge of haste was
less applicable. Adverting to the Herriott's Hospital
Charity, he said that t) e Bill did not interfere with the
distribution of any charitable funds, but merely a'tereti
the mole of appointing thus. by whom the charity was
to be administered. His Noble Friend had expatiated on
the advantages of having the higher species of patronatTe
vested in large bodies of men. He wool t ask one
question—would the councils be more select, because they
were placed under no control? He thought not. They
were now to exercise the same function; as heretofore, but
not until after they had been chosen by the respectable in-
habitants of the different places. He really was not pre-
p fired for the panegyric, for the high eulogy he had heard
that evening passed upon self-elected councils in their
choice of professors. But he knew theta man of the greatest
science, and who stood at the head of the natural philoso—
phers of this country on account of the discoveries he h
ad
m ale in science—discoveries which, perhaps, hail no match
in Europe—that man ought at present to fill a pretessor's
chair in the University of Elinburgh, and would fill it, had
net the selielected of that capital thought fit to reject him,
and choose one who was more intimately connected wi-la
edinburgh. He had nothing to say against the person of
their choice, for be believed him to be a young man of
talent and great promise. When he saw many guest
deprived of seats in that University, he could not bat feel
regiet—and he particularly regretted as an alumina of
that University that it had not obtained fir itself so elori-
ous it name as that of Brewster. ' As the main object of
toe Bill was to do away with self elections, its proviserak
were to provide for a new mode of election, by extending
the number of those who could elect, which was t
i tie
done by giving the power of electing to 10/. househol
The Bill was one to alter the mode of electing To ti
Councils, and nothing more. If in Committee any Noble
Lord wished to hate the franchise further extended—by
giving it, for instance, to 5/. householders—he would oe
at liberty to move an amendment to that effect. He he-
th it he had no further observations to trouble their
Lordships with.

I'r Lrl
of HADDINGTON said a few worea in (..x-
-planation.

The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Thursday next.
The Burghs (Scotland) Bill was also read a second time.

EAST INDIA BILL.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose to move that tde
order for the third reading of this Bill, which stood for to-
morrow (this day), he discharged. He said that the E ist
India Directors rei•omtnended, by a large maj,wity, to the
Court of Proprietors to adopt the Bill as it now stood,
and that the Court of Proprietors, by a large majority,
a.,,ireed to adopt it as it now stood. But as, owing to the
forms of the Court of Proprietors, nine could dem:nil a
ballot, he wished to obtain their assent in that way, which
had not as yet been obtained, though it was clear there
was a large majority is favour of the Bill. Tne result of
the ballot could not he ilatained before Friday, and if it
should he known on that day, it was his intention to move,
some time in the course of Friday evening, the third read-
ing of the Bill.—Order discharged.
Adjourned to ten o'clock to morrow (this day).

HOUSE OF COMMONS. Auousr IS.
The Lint'se resumed at a gnarter past five o'clock.
• Lord GROSVENOR presented a petition fr certain
silk manutacturers, and other persons connected with that
rade, praying tliat no reduction might take place in the
impnrta,inn duty on foreign thrown silk.
An HON AIEMBEts said be would beg the House to re,
collect that a peti ion had already been presented on the
same subject, but the prayer of which was the removal of
he present duty on foreign thrown silk ; and that petition
wis signed by three. fourths of the maser silk manufactu-
rers, who employed among them 9,000 of the 13,000 or
14 000 looms in operation.
Lord ALTHORP, after some preliminary observations,
which were inaudible in the gall,2ry, ethges•ed that all thn
notions on the list for that evening should be wi hdrawn,
-xcepting- the one which was of a personal nature,
41 concerning an Honouraide and Lamed Member ;
and that after the discussion of that motion, the
4-I.oise should proceed in Committee wi,h the Facto' ice
nat_

Colonel WILLIANIS was understood to say that he
could consent to withdraw one of the two motions he had
on the list.
Cuion4 EVANS compl4ined of the treatment ex-
.ierienced by a person who was in confine ment tor some
ffetrce against the stamp laws; arid who, besides
restrictedicing to the
l prison
the
food,n
Re, 1 tltor
vhich he lal.oured by providing him with more be
wis fiei rt
hairt
e
laid h►s Twelaer prison
and
t b:
mill °lin:dee'rli
be informed
ipposite, whether the comm., riff of the prisoner's hair
as proper or lezal 're itin,•re ?
h
is
.:y t o
thei alleviatetiludg
friends w
a.-
anxious
The SOLICITOR GENERAL replied, that having
Wended against the laws. and incurred a pin Ity, which,
icing unable to pay, rendered him liable to imprisonment,
tie prisoner would naturally have to endure the proon
iscipline ; but he considered the cutting riff of the trisn's
.air to he who ly unsanctioned by law.
INNS OF COUR I'—D. W. HARVEY, ESQ.
Mr. HUGHES begged leave to withdraw his wuti"
.ir a return from the Masters or the Bench of th- Liner
reinp:e, of the procee ,irts Were them respectiog
larvey's application to be c..11..d to ti. begged
bar.
Sir F. VINCENT, in con.lti,uee, egged to pos•pone.
.11 next ',won hid notice of IllOtilltl for r Select cow.
„i,,,.e to imp& e into the same wittier wt.,-
anti proposed to wove as an 6lllVlVlttlelit to the 1110'..}..p0 of