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London, England, 1833-10-21 00:00:00

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LONDON,
MONDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 21, 1833.

The Paris Papers of Saturday arrived this
morning. It appears from them that a Courier
had arrived at the Spanish Embassy from Ma-
drid, which place he quitted on the 12th inst.,
when every thing was perfectly tranquil. The
French Ambassador, M. de RAYNEVAL, had,
on the preceding day, an audience of the QUEEN
REGENT, in which he stated that LOUIS
PHILIP offered, as her friend, ally, relative, and
neighbour, his services in maintaining the rights
of her daughter. The Madrid Gazette of the
12th, which had arrived in Paris, contains the
formal adhesion of Generals SAARSFIELD and
MIRILLO, the Marquis DE LAS AMARILLAS,
and several other captains-general, to the
Government of the QUEEN. The Gazette
alludes to the Carlist movements in dif-
ferent parts of Spain, but attaches no
importance to them. BOURMONT and his
companions were still, it is said, performing
quarantine, under peremptory orders of embar-
kation at Cadiz or Malaga ; but the place at
which they were performing quarantine is not
mentioned. Nothing is said of Don CARLOS
in the Gazette ; but it was known at Madrid
that he had left Santarem. It is stated
that SANTOS LADRON, the leader in the late
Carlist movement at Los Arcos, and who was
made prisoner there by the troops sent against
him, was shot on his way to Pampeluna. Ac-
cording to the Madrid accounts, the Spanish
Liberals are generally taking arms in favour of
the QUEEN. A considerable body of troops
had left Madrid for the purpose of subduing the
rebels at Vittoria, and several columns were organ-
izing in the capital to repair to places which are
threatened by the Carlists. On the whole, the
accounts are favourable to the present Govern-
ment in Spain, and the adhesion of SAARSFIELD
is highly important ; for if he had declared for
Don CARLOS the success of that Prince would,
for a time at least, have been materially pro-
moted. Should it prove true that the Liberals
are arming in support of the QUEEN REGENT,
the Carlists must be put down, as it would
be utterly impossible for them to contend
long against the administrative power in the hands
of the QUEEN, supported by the Constitutional-
ists. We have seen in this country what a poor
fight the Tories made against the Government
when backed by the Liberals. Let us hope that
if the Spanish Liberals give their aid at a crisis
when, without them, the Government could not
exist, they will not, when calm shall be restored,
find the QUEEN regardless of their aid, and
tnadlv resolved against permitting useful inno-
vations. The French funds rose on Saturday,
in consequence of the accounts from Spain,
notwithstanding the statements in some of the
provincial journals, that, in consequence of
recent news from that country, the French
troops near the frontiers had received orders to
advance.

FRENCH FUNDS.—Putts, OCT. 18.
Five per Cents., 100 f 911 e. 101 f. 10c. 20c.
Three per Cents., 71f. 95c. 721 72f. 35c.
Bank Actions, 17001.
Rente de Naples, 88f. 87f. 95c. 88f. 75c.
Roman Five per Cents., 873/ 88 884.
Rente d'Espagne, Five per Cents., 144 44 15.
Rente d'Espagne, Three per Cents., 32% 34 3.13/.
Royal Spanish Loan, 73.
Rente Perpet. d'Espagne, Five per Cents., 54% 55_56.
Belgian Loan, 1831, Five per Cent., 921%.
ExemmiE ON LONDON.
One month, paper, 251. 35c.; money, 25f. 30c.
Three months, paper, —f. —c.; money, 25f. 2:c.
—Cours Authentique.

FRENCH FUNDS.—PARIS, OCT. 19.
Five per Cents., 102 f 101 f. 75c.
Three per Cents., 73f. 35c. 73f. 40c.
Bank Actions, 1,710 f.
Rente de Naples' 89f. 65c.
Roman Five per Cents., 90%.
Rente d'Espagne, Five per Cents., 16.
Rente d'Espagne, Three per Cents., 36.
Royal Spanish Loan, 76%.
Rents Perpet. d' Espagne Five per Cents., 59%.
Belgian Loan, 1831, 93. '
EXCHANGE ON LONDON.
One month, paper 25f 30e. , money, —f. —c.
Three months, ' '
paper, 25f. 20c.; money, —f. —c.
—Gouts Authentique.

The German Papers, which arrived this
mornings contain an article from Rome, dated

the sth inst., in which it is stated that in the'
consistory of the 30th tilt., the POPE communi-
cated to the Cardinals, " the many attacks and
acts of injustice committed by the present
Government of Portugal against the Holy See,
and declared that such conduct would effect the
total ruin of the Church, in a kingdom styled the
most faithful." His Holiness, however, confined
himself to protesting against these proceedings,
hoping that the Government would revoke its
resolutions, and restore the Church to its ancient
rights. We hope the Government will do
no such thing, knowing, as we do, that the
ancient rights of the Church, as they are
called in Portugal, are at variance with the
rights of all the Portuguese, who are not of the
privileged classes which support, and are in
turn supported, by the church as it exists
under the supremacy of the Holy Father.
Whatever the result of Don PEDRO'S
conduct towards the church in Portugal may be,
as regards his own interest, we are sure it can
only tend to the welfare and happiness of the
people, and to the true interests of that reli-
gion which has been so much professed, but
so little practised, in countries where the
rights of the Church are maintained at the
cost of general happiness. It appears from
these papers that a conspiracy has been disco-
vered at Ancona, and that documents have
been discovered in the possession of GALETTI
which are said to throw great light on the sub-
' ject. An article from Dresden, dated
October 10, states that by a convention between
Russia and the German. Powers, all the Poles
still in Germany are to be sent out of the country,
and to embark for England or North America.
The few Poles who remained at Dresden were
to receive passports for England. We are
neither surprised at the persecuting spirit of
the Autocrat nor at the meanness of the
German powers in being the instruments of his
tyranny. They hate all that belongs to freedom.
The funds at Vienna, on the 10th, were—
Five per Cent. Metalliques, 93 2-5; Four per Cent.,
83 5-16 ; Bank Shares, 1,198 k.

We are glad to hear that another effort is likely
to be made by the French Government to induce
the Duke of RICHMOND to allow the introduc-
tion of French newspapers into this country at
a low rate of postage, on a similar advantage
being possessed by this country as regards the
introduction of English newspapers into France.
Considering that the gain by such an arrangement
would, in a pecuniary sense, be entirely on our
side, and that morally and politically we have a
greater interest in the extended circulation of
English newspapers in France, than the French
can have in the increase of the sale of their
newspapers in this country, we must allow
that there is great liberality in the attempt of
the French Government to bring about such
an arrangement ; and we must be permitted to
express our astonishment, not only that there
should be any hesitation on the part of our
Post-office authorities to accede to it, but that
they should not have been the first to propose it.
The postage of a newspaper of the smallest
size, from London to Paris, is 2s. 4d. on this
side of the water, being ls. 2d. for the sheet
itself and Is. 2d. for the cover, and about four
francs for the postage from Calais to Paris,
making a total of ss. Bd. ; but if the sheet
be double, the Post-office here charge by weight,
as well as in France, and the postage of
a double Times would be about ten shillings.
The French newspaper arrives here at a smaller
charge, for it bears no other charge in France
than the inland postage, common to all papers
sent into the provinces, and which is very
trifling, and is merely charged the 2s. 4d., being
ls. 2d. for the sheet, and is. 2d. for the little
band on which is the direction. Here, there-
fore, so far as pecuniary interests are affected,
the French Government would, supposing the
number of papers sent to and from France under
the present system to be equal, suffer an injury
but the sacrifice which the French are willing to
make becomes more striking in another
view. The government stamp upon a
French newspaper is one halfpenny—upon
an English newspaper nearly three-pence
halfpenny. Thus, for every shilling which would
go into the French treasury, from the circulation
of French newspapers in Great Britain and
Ireland, seven shillings would go into our trea-
sury, supposing the number of English news-
papers circulated in France to be equal to that
of the French newspapers received here. The
probability, however, is, that if English news-
papers were allowed to circulate in France at a
very low rate of postage, the number would ex-
ceed in the proportion of three to one the cir-
culation of French newspapers here ; therefore,
for every shilling that we should pay to the
French as the stamp duty upon newspapers, they
would pay us one guinea. After so plain a
statement, we ask whether there ought to be a
moment's hesitation in complying with the wishes
of the French Government, and we are at a
loss to conceive what motive can be assigned for
having so long refused to accede to them.
Whilst on this subject, we may allude to
another circumstance highly creditable to the
French Government, although it does not, like
that to which we have adverted, affect us in a
national point of view, except as regards the
pride which we must feel in seeing English en-
terprise and ingenuity acknowledged by foreign
countries. The French Government has, it
seems, applied to Sir CHARLES DANCE, the
inventor of the steam carriage which was for some
days running between London and Greenwich,
for information, with a view of introducinc, the
use of steam carriages into France, probably
for the conveyance of the mails which are now
conveyed by the Maitres des Postes at an ex-
pense at least six times greater than it would be
by means of steam carriages. The total re-
ceipts the Post-office department in France
for the of
heyear 1831 were about 1,400,0001., on
which the expenses were 760,0001., being more
than one half, whereas in this country the ex-
penses of the Post-office are considerably under
one-third of the total receipts. The difference

arises from the mode in which the service is
performed. Here it is by contract with coach
proprietors, the Government having nothing to
do with the passengers ; in France, the mails are
horsed by the illaitres des Postes, who charge the
Government so much per stage, and the Govern-
ment convey passengers by the mails on their own
account. Although the charge for passengers
by the mail is considerably higher than by the
diligence, the profit to the Government is very
small, on account of the heavy charges of the
Post-masters. Should recourse be had to steam
carriages, the expense of conveyance will not
only be reduced to one-sixth of what it now is,
but the receipts will be much larger ; for, instead
of carrying only four passengers, as is now the
case, in each mail, there will be a dozen, so
that,: after reducing the fares one-third, there
will be a great increase of profit. At pre-
sent the gross receipts of the French Post-
' office, although annually increasing (whereas
those of our own Post-office are less than they
were eight years ago), are not equal to our own
by one-third, and the expenses, as we have said,
are one-third higher, so that the net receipts
are considerably less than half of what they are
in this country; but if the French Government
should adopt the use of steam-carriages, the net
profits will be quite equal to those of the British
Government, although, from the circumstance of
the postage of the letters in France being only
half of what it is here, the gross receipts can-
not, of course, be equal to those of our own
Post-office.

The Revue Encyclopedique, in a recent article
on the Post-offices of London and Paris, gives
the following as the daily movement of each :

Paris. London.
Letters from the interior, and from 32,000 35,000
abroad.
By the petite post, which is three- 13,000 40,000
half-pence in Paris
Letters sent to the provinces, or 70,000 45,000
abroad
Journals 05,000 ......... ......90,000

2020000 'lo,ooo

It will be perceived from this that the number
of letters sent from and received daily in London
is rather more than it is in Paris, consequently,
as the rate of postage in France is little mole
than half of what it is here, the gross receipts
cannot be much more than half, but there is a
small postage on newspapers in France, which,
on so large a number as 90,000 daily, must make
a considerable sum at the end of the year. There
can be little doubt, therefore, but that M.
THIERS will, by the employment of ateam-
carriages for the mail service, be able very mate-
rially to increase the Revenue of the French
Post-office, at the same time that he will have
the credit of being the first person in Europe
to cause their use for government purposes.

A Board of Admiralty was held yesterday for
the purpose of receiving Captain Ross, who
arrived at the Admiralty a little before 12
o'clock, with his Nephew and Purser. They
were nearly an hour with the Lords of
the Admiralty, and communicated much
valuable and interesting information. The
veteran Officer, who appeared in excellent health,
met with a cordial greeting from all the persons
at the Admiralty, and was in his turn de-
lighted at seeing his old acquaintances. He ac-
counted for not having written to the Admiralty
and his friends to announce his arrival, by
stating that a whaler, the captain of which had
promised to take letters, sailed without giving
him any notice, and that when he landed at
Hull the mail was just leaving. Captain Ross
and his brave companions suffered greatly during
a long time when they were living in snow huts,
constructed like those of the natives, but they
kept up their spirits, and passed their last Christ-
mas Day with all the usual observances, ex-
cept in cheer, having had as a substitute for
roast beef and strong ale, a roasted fix and cold
water. That they were not destitute of pro-
visions, however, appears from the fact of their
having brought a large bear as a present to the
Zoological Society.

We alluded on Friday to some extraordinary
proceedings of the Magistrates assembled at the
Middlesex Quarter Sessions, for the purpose of
granting music licenses. Whatever absurdity,
whatever abuses, whatever reasons occasioned the
restriction of magisteral discretion in the Beer
Act, they would all seem to be infinitely
stronger in favour of restricting their discretion
in the granting of music licenses. It is barely
possible that a case might be found in which it
would lead to dangerous or improper conse-
quences to allow music at a particular place,
but special grounds ought to be shown to jus-
tify a restriction of a harmless enjoyment which
ought to be as open to the poor as to the rich.
The rule should be the generally allowing of
music. Indeed, we cannot see why, in the
present state of the law, music should not be
allowed in every public house whatever, if desired
by the master, for it is difficult to conceive how
a house, fit to have a license at all, without
music, is rendered unfit by having music. Mr.
M'WILLIAM, who appears to look upon a
fiddle with hcrror, and would probably faint
away at the sight of a flute, opposed a petition
for a license to have music played at the Rising
Sun, in the New-road, on three grounds. He
first opposed the application on the part of the
publicans generally, for he considered the grant-
ing of a music license to any particular house
must necessarily injure every other house in
the neighbourhood. Most people would think
this a reason for allowing all houses to have
music. It is manifestly unfair that one public
house should have the privilege and not another,
equally well conducted. But good conduct did
not seem to enter into the consideration of the
Magistrates. Several persons applied, having
the certificates of the churchwardens, overseers,
&c., and were refused a license for no reason in
the world except that it would put the applicants
upon a footing of equality with a neighbour)
who had been fortunate enough to propitiate the
favour of some of the Bench. Those who do
not disapprove of music altogether, act with
gross inconsistency, to say the least of it, in
opposing any license to a well-conducted house.
Mr. M'WILLIAM had a second reason against

granting a license to the Rising Sun, wifich
was, that " the music would annoy persons who
might be riding along the New-road ;" but
finding that even his brother Magistrates laughed
at it, he added, that in his opinion a music
license " made a place twenty times a worse
nuisance than a house of ill fame." Some were
unpolite enough to laugh at this also ; but Mr.
PARRY, who had kept the house five years,
and pledged himself to maintain order and de-
corum, having no friend to speak for him on the
bench, of course, lost his license. Another
more remarkable instance of the manner in
which the Magistrates suffer themselves to be
guided, not by the merits of a case, but their
feelings of courtesy one to another had oc-
curred just before. Mr. FRAMI'TON, of the
Chequers, a public-house at the corner of
Abingdon-street, within a dozen yards of the
Royal entrance to the House of Lords, applied
to have his music license renewed, but was
opposed by Captain FITZGERALD, who stated
that the house was frequently kept open at an
improper hour of the night. There could be
no doubt of the fact, but Captain FITZGERALD
forgot that it was for the accommodation of the
Footmen and Coachmen of Noble Lords and
Hon. Members, who were sure to have a friend
on the bench. It seems, however, that the
worthy Chairman, also forgetful of the manner
in which the rules were suffered to be blinked,
in certain cases, at once put the question, and
a majority of the Bench decided that the license
should be refused. The publican, doubtless much
astonished at the result, called upon the Court to
revise its judgment, giving it to understand
that he did not violate the law in favour of
hard working men, mechanics, or tradesmen,
but " the PRINCIPAL attendants of the Houses
of Parliament." This quite altered the case ;
and Mr. HA LSWELL stating that he had been
told the House was well conducted, the same
Magistrates who had by a majority refused to
grant it a music license, at once unanimously
acceded to the application. Eren Mr. M‘WIL-
LIAM, whose opinion of the effect of a music
license we have mentioned, did not raise his
voice against the application of the Chequers.'
Perhaps he thought that a tavern, even twenty
times worse than a house of ill fame, might be
suffered without danger in the neighbourhood of
the greater House, near which the Chequers
stands.

Other petitions were refused, and others were
granted, but upon no principle that we could
discover which would not admit of the imputa-
tion of favouritism. Is it fit that such a system
should be continued ? No one surely can pre-
tend that in principle it is right any set of men,
however respectable, should have the power of
injuring the business of a dozen publicans, for
the purpose of favouring another not a whit
more deserving. The abuses which have arisen,
the hardships which have been inflicted under
the exercise of the irresponsible authority, some
of whose freaks we have adverted to, are too
great to be longer borne, and it is to be hoped,
that as soon as Parliament has disposed of the
important questions which must come immedi-
ately before it, its attention will be turned to
limiting the discretion now too frequently left to
the magistracy.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.)

FROM LLOYD'S.

DEAL, OCT. 20.—Wind S.W. to W.S.W.—Arrived from
the river and sailed the Fortitude, M'Clure, for Charleston;
Ina, Alexander, for Jamaica. The Wellesley, for Jamaica,
remains; and Cecrops, for

PORTSMOUTH, OCT. 19 AND 20.—Wind N.W.—Arrived the
Zenobia, Owens, from London for Bengal; his Majesty's ship
Pandora, from the eastward, and sailed on the 20th for FaL
mouth ; Thomas King, Williamson, from London for Deme-
rara ; and Planet and Stately, from London for Jamaica.
Sailed his Majesty's ships Challenger and Rapid, for South
America; and his Majesty's ship Vestal, for the West Indies,
ProolouTii, OCT. 19.—Wind S.W.—Arrived the Nautilus,
Tate, from Halifax; Reform, Leader, from Labradore ; St.
Aubin, Carroll, and George Canning, Byron, from Malaga;
and his Majesty's ship Nautilus, from Cork.
FALMOUTH, OCT. 18 AND 19.—Wind W. to W.N.W., strong
breezes and squally.--Arrived the Thais packet, from Vera
Cruz—sailed the 18th August, and Havannah the 11th ult.,
with 650,000 dollars on board in freight; and William Wal.
lace, Jackson, from Odessa. Sailed his Majesty's ship Con.
fiance, for Oporto and Lisbon, with mails.
DOVER, OCT. 20.—Arrived off port the Treunde, Meyer,
from Trinidad de Caiba ; and Nestor, Dickman, from Cadiz.
STANGATE CREEK, OCT. 20.—Arrived the Lively, Ford,
from Constantinople; Rapid, Phillips, and Pomona, Spriggs,
from Vostizza , and Countess of Errol, Maitland, from Leghorn.
HASTINGS, OCT. 20.—Arrived off port the Dart, from Ma-
deira.

C OWES, OCT, I().—Arrived the Hereford, Freer, from Bahia.
NVEymooTn, OCT. 19.—Arrived the Neptune, Davis, from
Quebec.

BRISTOL, OCT. 20.—Arrived the Astrea, Fyall, frem Lisbon.
JERSEY, OCT. 18.—Arrived the Judith and Esther, Vebert,
from Gaspe.

The Concordia, Pot, from Liverpool to Dordrect, was run
foul of the Bth instant, off Dover, by the Montreal, Champlin,
and sunk—the master drowned.

The Rebecca, Booth, from Berwick to London, foundered
on the Galloper the 17th instant—crew saved.

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The Witham, Middlemas, of Sunderland,— was wrecked on
Thursday last.

The Debens, 111`Intyre, from Hull to Rotterdam, was on
shore at Bridle Island, on Friday.
The George, Tell, from St. David's to Dordt, is lost on the
'lender Bank.

THE FUNDS.-(THIS DAY.)

CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK.

A Mexican mail has arrived this morning by the Thais,
sailed from Vera Cruz Aug. 18, and from Havannah Sept. 11.
It confirms the accounts we received from New York last week
of the 24th of August, from Tampico.
(Posted at the North and South American Coffee-house.)
" Falmouth, Oct 19.
"The Thais packet is just arrived from Mexico, with a
freight of seven hundred thousand dollars on merchants' ac-
count. Mexico is in a very unsettled state. The cholera is
very prevalent at Tampico."
The New York packet of the 24th has arrived; but it does
not bring papers of so late a date as those previously received,
:sth of September. The papers by the above packet arc of
little import.
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There is also an improvement in the French funds. A few
days will put us in possession of the real facts. As troops have
been sent from the capital to put down the insurrections, ere
this, no doubt, they have come in contact with the Carlists, by
which we shall ascertain the strength of the parties.
It appears, according to the Dutch mail, that the informa-
tion from Amsterdam has a brighter prospect towards the
settling of the affairs of Belgium than for some time past, in
consequence of which the Dutch stock has improved.
We have no fresh arrivals as yet from Portugal.

Consols, which left off on Saturday at 86 7/,, for the Account,
opened at 87 1/4 to 1,4, owing to the improvement of the French
Funds.

All the Foreign Securities have a more healthy appearance.
Portuguese Scrip 21 %to 22 prem. Spanish 21 i 8 to 22 lA.
In other Foreign Securities little doing as yet.
HALF POST ONE.
Accounts from Constantinople state that great dissension
prevails in the Ottoman Council, owing to the illness of the
Reis Effendi.

Six thousand five hundred dollars have come for the Mexi-
can dividends.

Consols are not quite so good as in the early part of the
morning, when they were 87 % to 14 for the account ; since
which they have been done at 66 % % for money, and 87 to %
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The letters from Mexico bring accounts that the in)unction
which was laid on the Mexican United Company's shares, has
been taken off.

We have no accounts or reports from Portugal, as yet.
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Consols for the Account 87 to li.