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London, England, 1834-07-24 00:00:00

BRUSSELS AND GERMAN PAPERS.

BRUSSEL, JULY 21.---Zrhe C3mmissioners appointed by the
GovernMent to fix the basis of a treaty of commerce with the
French Government, will set out in a short time for Paris.
A letter from the camp at Dicst of the 19th says—
" The Dutch came a few days ago and bivouacked on the
extreme frontier ; they composed a strong brigade, with ca-
valry and artillery.
" We were in sufficient numbers to meet them ; but if they
•should think fit to repeat the same manoeuvre with a greater
force, they could easily do so; and then it would be proper
that our frontier should be better covered than it now is."

BRUSSELS, JVLY 22,—Yesterday at noon Te Deem was
performed in the church of St. Gudule, on occasion of the
anniversary of the inauguration of his Majesty. The Senate,
the Chamber of Representatives, the Magistrates, the Civil
and Military Authorities of the province and the city were
present. The Archbishop of Marines officiated. Since Sun-
day it is observed that a great number of strangers have re-
sorted to this city. Many of the hotels are already quite full,
and in several others the apartments are all bespoke.
We hear with pleasure, says 1' Emancipation, that M. Cam-
pion, the English Gentleman, who was dangerously wounded
in a duel on Friday last, is much better, and that great hopes
are entertained of his recovary.
The great drought which we have had this summer has
caused the water to fail in most of the houses in the higher
parts of the city.
M. de Bavay, substitute for the Attorney-General, who con-
ducts the prosecution at Mons, was in the city yesterday for the
purpose of ascertaining whether there is any real obstacle to
prevent the witnesses summoned on the list, and who have not
obeyed the summons, from going to Mons to give evidence on
oath of the fscts within their knowledge. This morning forty-
.one more witnesses were summoned ; among them are a Cap-
tain and a Lieutenant of the Corps of Guards.
In the sitting of the Chamber of Representatives yesterday
the Corn Law was agreed to by a majority of 41 to 19. In the
senate the law against the Orangists was passed by a majority
of 33 to 3.

BELGIAN FUNDF.:.—BRussEr.s, Juts 22.
Actual Debt, 234 per Cent.

- . -
Rothschild's Loan, 5 per Cent 973
Loan of the City, 1832, 4 per Cent 97
—Brussels Papers, July 23.
PRUSSIAN FUNDS—Bunr.tx, Jut.Y 17.
St. Schuld. Sch. 4 per cent.
*Ptu.si.in English Loan, 1818, 5 per cent -
* Ditto ..... 1,X12, 5 per cent.... --
Ditto Bonds 1834, 4 per unt.... 95 =4 95!4
LXCHANGES ON LONDON,
London, X 1 Sterling, 3 months
Hzint.urgh, :00 marks, 2 months 1513.
Paris, 3tht fraEcs, 2 months
Petersburgh 10) rubles 3 weeks

—Prussian stnlc (iazettc. July IS.

VIENNA, JULY B.—ln the absence of the Court of the greater
part of the diplomatic body of our richest Nobility, the capital,
which was lately so gay, is now suite dull, and even on 'Change
little business is doing, most of the rich bankers havinc, gone
to the country. However, it is observed that the Chancery,
especially the department of German affairs, is very much en-
gagedr and that the President of the Diet, and the Prussian
Minister, Count Alvinslebar, pass the greater part of the day
there. Hence it is supposed that that Department is drawing
up, in their official form, the resolutions of the late Congress
previous to their promulgation, which, it is expected, will be
in the beginning of August.
NEUFCHATEL, JuLY 11.—On the 9th instant, the Council of
State issued a declaration that as perfect tranquillity and order
prevail in the Canton, and the energy and unanimity of the
vast majority of the citizens are a pledge for the duration of
the happy state of things, the Council of State in concert
with his Excellency the Governor, is convinced that the
moment is come to restore the arms sequestrated in 1831 ;
it expects that all the citizens of Neufchatel will appreciate
the confidence which the- Council manifests by this resolution.
The persons concerned may expect further notice respect-
ing the execution of this resolution.—Franifort Papers,
July 18. .

CONSTANTINOPLE, JUNE. 28.--(By Express.)—We live iu
perpetual confusion, as it regards our political relation.
First, the question relating to the politics of the Porte, and
those of the Cabinets of St. Petcrsburgh, London and Paris,
concerning the East, are of various kinds. To-day such
a question appears to be the most important. To-
morrow, this seems to be arranged only to give place to
another question in the background, still more difficult in the
solution, so that our fears are constantly excited ; there are
so many parties, so many interests, •ardy the distance of the
above cities is so great, which adds to the uncertainty as it re-
gards our political relations, that but a gloomy prospect is before
us. The preparations in the arsenal have been for some time
very active ; and it is reported that the Russian fleet h
- vale been descried in the neighbourhood of the Bosphorus.
It is a!so' eonlidently said that the Frenchfleet will join the
English one. It is impossible to believe that the Angle-
French-fleet can have the intention of proceeding against the
Dardanelles by a coup de main, in order to secure the capital
and the Black Sea. But it is possible that the Porte, aided
by Russia; May have the intention of attacking Mehemet Ali,
ag.::inst which the Anglo-French fleet seem to oppose an
armed interirentien. This, however, is not to he relied on,
but so much is certain, that what the English
Ambassador gave out as to exercising manuvres in the neigh-
bourhood of the Dardanelles is mere pretext. The last let-
ters from Simos are more satisfactory for the Porte. When
the negotiations were on the pant of being broken of a basis
was at last agreed upon, which will be accepted by the 57.-
rniots, and, at the same time, be in accordance with the in-
structions of the Porte. A &est part of the Saraiots have
submitted, and no doubt exists but the remainder will follow
the example. In Scio the plague has broken out : here it
vaakes no progress.—Allyenizine'Zeitnag, July I 3.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE

—('rms DAY.)

(F 11() 7.1 LI .f;
DEAL, JULY "3. —Wind E., light.—Auived f:orn the river
and sailed the Narcissus, Atkins, t'or St. Andrew's and Jamaic...
PorasmouTu, JULY 23.—Wind variable and light.—Ar-
rived from the river the London, Wimble, from Calcutta. •
PLYMOUTH, JULY 2`2.—Wind N. W.
Fai.mour ti, JULY —Wind. N. W. to N., fresh.—Arrived
the Eliza, Forrester, from Port-au-Prince ; and Jamcg, Lyon,
from Quebec. _ _ _

DARTkOUTIL JULY 22.—Arrived the lleroine, Benson, from

FiqtAra.
'LONDON. .111,Y 24.—Arrived the Brothock, Watfon, from
Archangel; Oiive Branch, Mason, from St. Pctersburgh ;
Jason, Brandt, Francis Jeffery, Fleming, and Cossack, Konig-,
from Riga; Juno, Leiakc, from Memel; Asophe, Witheint,
and Salvatarum, Opasse, from Dantzie; Amphitrite, Bartlett,
Bollerephon, Tzetnieh, and ROS 3 tin rea, Sanda, from Coal-
-1,c,r7 ; and Storfeisten, Sormenwood, from Finland.
IrvF.nroor., JULY 22.—Arrived the Elizabeth, Reed, from
Montreal; Ariel, Dye, from St. Petersburgh; Hoppett, Barn-
thorn, from Also; Neptunus, Lenfthorn, from Brahstadt ;
and Sisters, Carter, from Hamburg. Off port the Benjamin
Ruggles, Taylor, from Mobile; Esther, from Quebec; Fen-
wick Keating-, Atcheson, from St. John's, New Brunswick:
and John William, Wuelf, from Dantzic.
JERSEY, JULY 21.—Arrived the Jersey, Du Pre, from Rio

Janeiro.
CORK, JULY 21.—Arrived off port the Rcbert Keby, David-
son, frpm Quebec.
WEXPORD, JULY 21.—Arrived the Mentor, Barlow, from
Quebec.
Sem:no:tot:ou, JULY 22.—Arrived off port the Newham,
Robinson, from Quebec.
Lvov, JULY v.—Arrived the Renardus, Leungen, from
Stetting, and Jonge, Albertlino, for Quebec.

IANTF.S, JLIA 19.—The Celine, Tulini, bound to Cayenne,
in proceeding to sea, was driven on shore opposite the Here
shoe, hitt was got off leaky, but she must be hauled on shore,
and repaired.

" Lady Charlotte Bury," says the Court Journal,
" has, in her new novel of The Disinherited,' evinced a keen
perception, and as nice a discrimination of character ; and her
grouping is delightfully harmonious. The honest-hearted, but
short-sighted, wealthy old merchant, Sir Robert Leslie ;_ his
gentle, loving,' obedient wife, who had scarcely learned to
manage (or mlsmanage) her household concerns ;
daughter his orienta-
lized, heartless dandy of a son ; his equally heartless
Letitia--arc all beautiful sketches. The story of The Dis •
inherited' is altogether tenderly, touchingly, exquisitely told."

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LONDON,
THURSDAY EVENING, JULY 24, 1834

The discussion last evening relative to the charge
(for we can call it by no other name) brought ay,ainst
Mr. ELLICE by Lord IVESTERN, ended as might
have, been expected. From the statement made by
the Right Honourable Gentleman when the subject
came first under the notice of the House, as well as
from the two letters furnished by Mr.. HARVEY, (no
friend of the Government) it was evident that there
was no foundation for the charge ; and such appeared
to be the unanimous feeling of all who spoke on the
subjectlast night. The Member who moved for the Com-
mittee admitted that he placed reliance on Mr. ELL ices
word-22 Mr. YOUNG, Colonel E vA Ns, Mr. BARING,
indeed men- of all parties, considered him incapable of
putting his hand into the public purse, and, in fact,
pronounced him innocent ; yet; with strange inconsis-
tency, these men voted for referring the question to a
Committee of Privileges. If Grand Juries were to
act on the same principle, their functions would soon
be dispensed with. No man is committed by a
Magistrate unless some suspicion is attached to
him ; but what would be said if the Jury, one
and all, believed the accused innocent, ytt sent
him to be tried, 'to clear up his character ?
Such a course is worse than absurd, it is unjust ;
because by voting for inquiry, they attempted to cast
a shade over the character of a man who, • by their
own showing, ought to have been acquitted by accla-
mation. It is worthy of remark, that, with the excep-
tion of Mr.WYNN, no member of any former Govern-
ment, or any one that had been connected with former
Governments, ventured a word on the subject. Even Sir
HENRY HARDINGE, so ready to join in the battle when
a charge is made against any active Reform Member,
rested quietly on his arms. Sir ROBERT PEEL, we
believe, left the House during the discussion ; Mr.
GOULBUItN, Mr. HERRIES, and Sir G. MURRAY,
were silent as death—not even any one imprudent
hanger-on of a Tory Treasury was carried away by the
spirit of opposition to make an attack, and de-
nounce the conduct of a reforming Secretary of
the Treasury. This all arose, no doubt, from
the best motives and the kindest feelings towards Mr.
ELLICE, and not from any consciousness of guilt, or
any dread that the charge might be retorted with ten-

fold force. Mr. N N was an exception—he heard the
w;vd privilege scud in his ear—his natural instinct got
the better of his prudence, and he would go to a Com-
mittee, though at the risk of disclosures which would
affect every Administration with which he has been con-
nected. Those men that ride only one hobby arc dangerous
colleague—thev are never to be depended on ; for the
.
ruling passion is so strong, that if they are not allowed
to attack the enemy they will turn upon their own com-
rades. This discussion, .however, has not been with-
out beneficial results. It has left no doubt, that in
former times the baneful practice of expending the
money of the people for the purposes of bribery had been
carried on to a great extent, and it will be a warning to
•1 a Reform Mimstry not to interfere with the freedom of
election. The less- any member of a Government has
to do with such transactions, the better will he sup-
port the character and the power of the Administration.

It must be gratifying to every friend of humanity to
know that it is the intention of the LORD CHAN-
CELLOR next Session to introduce-a general measure
for the diminution of capital punishment, and esta-
blish a general and systematic change in the criminal
jurisprudence of the country. The humanity shown
by the present Government, and the well known
opinions of Lord BROUGHAM respecting the absur-
dity, not to say cruelty, of some of the existing criminal
laws, may be taken as cethlin pledges that capital
punishment Will, excepting for a very few crimes,,be
speedily abolished. Even Lord WYNFORD, who is
no great advocate for chancre looks forward to the
period when the punishment of death will rarely be
resorted to. The feeling of the country on this sub-
ject is so strong, that it is utterly impossible to carry
the law as it stands into effect. Juries in all cases,
where the punishment greatly exceeds the offence,
prefer violating their oaths, or, more properly speaking,
prefer mercy to sacrifice, and acquit a prisoner, though
no doubt of his guilt exists.

There are some crimes, such as murder, the viola-
tion of females, and certain kinds of arson, which, by
the general voice of mankind, can be expiated only by
death ; but between these and many offences which
are still capital, there is the widest difference, and so
back Ward have the Government and the Legislature
been in drawing the distinction, that individual Mem-
bers a- Parliament have been forced from motives of
humanity-and-justice to bring forward separate mea-
sures, with6ut any regard for consistency, and have
thereby rendered our criminal law the most anomalous
code in any civilized country. We therefore hail with
delight the plan of the LORD CHANCELLOR, to
all these anomalies, together with the various bills on
capital punishment, which within the last few years
have been submitted to Parliament, to the considera-
tion of the Commissioners on Criminal law, with a
view to form a systematic, consistent, and intelligible
digest of criminal jurisprudence. His Lordship has
already done much for the amelioration of the
law, both civil and criminal, but a great deal
still remains ; and if time and circumstances per-
mit, we confidently anticipate some general enact-
ment on this important subject, which will_Make his
name be more remembered by posterity than any of
the great measures which he has either advocated or
carried since he entered on political life. - No mea-
sure—not even the great measure of Parliamentary Re-
form, has added more to the popularity of the Govern-
ment, than the general lenity which they have shown
in the administration of the Criminal Law ; • they have
tempered justice with mercy, and in all cases where the
law was not imperative, have endeavoured to adjust
the punishment to the nature of the offence. The di-
minution of capital punishments in the metropolis is
the theme of universal approbation ; but it is mixed up
with the painful reflection, that the barbarity of our
laws should have been continued so long, and that so
many lives should have been sacrificed on the
unjust
and unstatesmanlike plea which has ever actuated the
Tories—the fear of change. The public mind is now
awakened to the subject, and demands such an amend-
ment of the law as will enable the executive to. carry
their humane views into effect. We trust that by next
Session their hopes will be realised.

In the House of Lords, last night, the Great
Western Raihvay Bill was read a first time, -with-
out calling forth any remark ; though we understand
that it is the intention of urtain individuals, connected
with the London. and Southampton Railway, to en-
deavour to raise against it a factious interested opposi-
tion, in order either to have it thrown out, or put off
till the next Session. We are astonished at this.
are surprised that any man who supported a proposi-
tion for a railroad communication between London and
Southampton, could have the hardihood to oppose
a similar line of road between London and Bath,
and .on to Bristol. There are some things
which are so inconsistent with themselvs, Coat
we cannot open our eyes to their inconsistency with-
out blushing for human nature. These persons have
already gone the length of petitioning the House of
Commous against this Bill. Now that there 3houldbc pe-
titions presented against any Bill before Parliament,
however beneficial to the country, is by no means stir-
priAng ; as it is well 1- sown that all abuses---all hive-

grate attachments to explode :I systems—all oppositions
to changes for the public good, are attempts to sacrifice
the many at the shrine of the few : but that such peti-
tions should emanate from those who themselves adopt
the measures recommended by any sucd► Bill, is astound-
ing indeed. Why the silversmiths of Ephesus defended
the worship of Diana is sufficiently obvious, although
in their hearts they might haVe laughed at the folly
of her sincerest votaries ; but had St. Peter opposed
a proposal for a' division of the See of Antioch,
the world would he justified in judging that even an
apostle could sacrifice the spiritual comforts of his flock
to the policy of preserving a fat bishopric.
But mon who, under the name of patriotism, could
sacrifice to their individual interests the prosperity of
their country—who could coop up in the ignorance of
a past age, all those from whose pockets they could
not extract the gains of improvement—deserve to have
their grasping avarice, their empty pretensions, and
their profligacy of principle, exposed in the view of
the whole kingdom. They now discover that the
Great Western Railway will be a nuisance ; that the
direct way to Bath and Bristol from London, will
be -by passing through Southampton ; and though
they do not insist that a semi-circular direction
is a straight one, the difference is so
that they cannot understand why vested rights
should be endangered, merely because the 'public
would derive some temporary advantages from it. But
why was not the uselessness of this Bill found out
sooner? Why, during the fifty-six days it was be- .
fore a Committee of the House of Commons, was it
riot discoVered that the Bill was uncalled for ? Why

was it that the parties interested in the Southampton I
Railway held their peace on a subject so important,
while their own favourite measure was in the hands of
the Legislature ? They may not like to answer these
quetions, bat the country can understand such con-
duct, and can appreciate the honesty of men who
have the meanness to resort to it. They were silent du-
ring- the •long time this Bill was pending in the
Commons, because they were then afraid that by
raising the vizard ever so little they might betray the
craven visage beneath it; and that standing-before the,
world as jobbers, instead of as patriots, anxious to pro•
.
mote the best interests of the community, they would
neither procure attention, nor command respect. - But
now " All's well" with them. Their Bill is passed.
They have, now, in the cant of the times, " Vested
rights," and so they coins forward to pray the Legis-
lature to foster, in the spirit of paternal love, its -un-
.fledged offspring. It would have required very little
more effrontery to demand, compensation, not for pre-
sent, but prospective losses; and we think the interested
petitioners against the Great Western Railway Bill, to
be consistent with themselves, ought to carry out the
principle, by calling upon Parliament, in the event of
passing the Bill now before it, to take their claims to
compensation into its earliest consideration. The par-
ties who oppose the Bill may rely upon it that such a
course would be as well advised, as respectable, and as
likely to succeed, as that which they are now pursuing.
They may imagine that because they were successful
for good, they can be equally successful for evil ; but
• " Sometimes we are devils to ourselves,
When we will tempt the frailty of our powers,
Presuming on their changeful potency !"

What adds most to the indignation with which the
enlightened and patriotic portion of the people regard
the attempts which are now being made to oppose this
bill, is the fact, that the Bristol and London Rail-
road Association, was the first ,by a year, to subm't
a scheme of the kind to the consideration of Parlia-
ment ; and that it was by accident, rather than
design, that the Southampton Bill took precedence of
that which is now before it. As friends to every
measure for the improvement of the country, we did
all that in us lay, to accelerate such an event ; little
expecting that those whom we were cheering onward
were not as disinterested as ourselves. We are sorry
to find that we were grievously mistaken.
But the country will not suffer itself to be
cheated out of a source of great commercial
and agricultural improvement, - by the machina-
tions of a few interested individuals. The effect
of a direct railroad communication between Lon-
don, Bath, and Bristol, will be the immediate im-
provement of the whole of the West of England,
bordering on Hertfordshire, Shropshire, Che-
shire, and Lancashire, through which the road will
be carried. Now, one of the immediate consequences
of this will be, that agriculturists, in the heart of the
kingdom, who had formerly no means of disposing of
their grain, will have the metropolis itself open as a
market to them, at an expense much less than it now
costs them to have it conveyed thirty miles distant by
either a land or water-carriage. Again, it will enable
the agriculturist, by the opening of a market for the
produce of his labour, as well as by enabling him to
procure manure at a rate infinitely cheaper than at
present, to till the most sterile soils ; the fear of throw-
ing which out of cultivation is one of the greatest ar-
guments for continuing the present Corn Law mono-
poly. And this, independently of the time saved to the
merchant, manufacturer, traveller, and man of bu-
siness ; which of itself is sufficient to induce the
country to support the passing of such a measure.
Were there no other reason for our supporting this
Bill, than that by its extending a line of railroad to
Bristol, it will 'facilitate the means of communicating
with Ireland, and opening a market for her produce, it
should have our warmest advocacy. The wretched
condition of that country is such, that it almost amounts
to justification of the discontents which prevail among
the mass of the population ; and it is our duty to for-
ward every measure which will have a tendency to give
a stimulus to her industry. Let railroads only once
be adopted in that part of the Kingdom, and let every
facility be given to industry, and we shall hear no more
of a Repeal of the Union.
We trust the Members of the Upper House, who have
been, or may be, appealed to, with regard to this Bill,
will look well to the motives of the parties from whom
they receive such communications. A morning con-
temporary (the, Chronic/e), in a short paragraph
yesterday, intimated that those who were favouraEe to
the passing of the Western Railway Bill, were
actuated by sinister motives. We would recommend
our contemporary to be more careful in making insinua-
tions ef this kind ; especially as it has gone abroad that,
of late, our once able and respected contemporary can

" Change shapes with Protons for advantages."
At all events we know enough of the Chronicle's
disinterestedness in this affair ; and therefore we think
it's safest course would be to leave the Bill to its fate,
since it cannot safely support it.

We have not space to• day for any observations on
the .notice of a resolution by Mr. CUTIIBERT
Rir-
PON, be to brought forward in the next Session of Parlia-
ment, declaring Deans and Chapters not having the care
of souls to be useless ; nor of another notice by the
same Honourable Gentleman for leave to bring in a
Bill to relieve the Bishops from their attendance in
the House.of Lords; but to-morrow we shall give an
outline of the subject :

" Resolution, That Deans and Chapters not having cures of
souls are useless ; that it is proper to apply their possessions in
payment of Church Rates, and for other purposes, retard be-
ing had to the interests of present holders, and provision being
made for the performance of divine worship in the respective
cathedrals."
" Bill to take away from the Archbishops and Bishops of
the Established Church their legislative and judicial functions
in the Upper House of Parliament, with a view to increase their
usefulness by constant residence in their respective dioceses."

The Paris Journals of Tuesday mention that a
telegraphic dispatch of the 20th had announced that
the attempt of DON CA RLOS to gain over the army
not having succeeded, he was endeavouring to get to
Alava, but that General Rom', had hastened forward
to Salva Tierra in order to prevent him. No battle
had as yet taken place between the adverse parties.
Rolm, was gaining so rapidly on the PRETENDER,
that this last was careful to keep near tie coast, so
that he might be prepared on an emergency to hoist
sail for England again. The Memorial Bordelais
of the 19th inst., states that DON CA RLos would most
likely make a dash into the interior, where the cu-
rate NERINO was expected to make his appearance. The
French Government had at length ordered measures
for preventing the conveyance of supplies to the in-
surgents from France. It was understood to be the
determination of Count TORENO to move in the
Cortes a composition with the creditors of Spain.
This report had occasioned some uneasiness on the
Bourse during a great portion of Tuesday last. Pre-

parations were in active progress at Paris for the cele-
bration 6f the " Thre3 Glorious Days of July."
FRENCH CUNT)3.--I'eht.;, JULY 24.
per Cent..., 105 f. 8;c. ;Lc.
Four per Cents., 92/.
Three per Cent,. 79C. 7J;..,. Co. 76f. Sc. •
Bank Actions 1,770 r.
Bente de Naples, 9211 Coc. 75c. •
Roman Fire per Cents., 95.
Itente tt'lf.pagne, Five per Cents., 30%
Ilente d'Espagne, Three per Cents., OS k 38
Snatosh Loan, 74.
Petite Perpet. d'Espagne, Five per Cents., 59% 58!.1.
Belgian Loan, 9,1.
EXCIIA NOR ON LONDON'.
lannth, paper, 25:. 3.1 c. ; money, fSF. 271: c.
f'ltrcetn,:uth:,p:4;,er, 251. 20:. ; money, 2.3 f. 17%c.
---t o.,rs thentig;:e.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,

THIS DAY, THURSDAY, JULY 24.

FIO USE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at 20 minutes past twelve.
FRIENDLY SOCIETIES' BILL.
The order of the day for the further consideration of the re-
port upon this Bill having been read,
On the motion of Mr. ORD, the House resolved itself into
a Committee of the whole House, Mr. PIIILPOTTS in the Chair.
Mr. BERNAL suggested an" amendment to the repealing
clause, for the purpose of more clearly defining the right of
the ;Society to invest their money in any way they thought
proper, without being compelled to invest it exclusively in the
Funds or the Savings Banks. It might be urged that
this provision would endanger the property of the Societies
by exposing it to the designs of low attorneys; but he,
(Mr. B.) thought that the Friendly Societies were well able
to take care of their own interests. The Hon. Member con-
cluded by moving his amendment.

Mr. ORD said he should feel it his duty to oppose the
the amendment. He feared that instead of conferring a bene-
fit upon those societies, it would be the means of involving
them in bankruptcy and ruin. There were about 5,000 benefit
societies in England, which had invested nearly one million
sterling in the Savings Banks, and he (Mr. Ord) would pause
before he should attempt to grapple with so formidable an invest-
ment. He trusted his Hon. Friend the Member for Rochester
would not press his amendment.

Sir SAMUEL WHALLEY thought that it was a principle
laid down, that when the • Legislature extended its protection
to any societies, they should invest their surplus capital in the
recognized Funds of the Government. It never was intended
that these societies should become trading and speculating
companies, and therefore they should take care to prevent
their having an opportunity of doing so. On these grounds
he should give his decided opposition to the amendment.
Mr. BERNAL explained.

Mr. FOSTER gave notice, that early next Session, he
would move for the appointment of a Select Committee upon
this subject. He hoped, therefore, the Hon. Member for Ro-
chester (Mr. Bernal) would withdraw his amendment, and
allow the Bill to proceed as far as it cDuld this Session.
Mr. H. HUG HE S opposed the amendment. If this amend-
ment were carried, it might happen that three-fourths of the
members of a Friendly Society might be influenced by the
publican at whose house they met, or the attorney of the
town, to invest the money of the society in an improper
security, and thus sacrifice the property of the remaining
fourth. He hoped the amendment would be withdrawn, as it
was evident, if pressed to a division, it must be lost.
After a few words from Mr. Wilks, Mr. T. Attwood; Cap-
tain Gordon, Mr. W. Thynne, and Sir E. Codrington,
Mr. BE RNAL consented to withdraw his amendment.
Mr. PARROTT proposed a clause to the effect of ex-
empting the members of Friendly Societies upon receiving
relief, and making oath before a magistrate for that purpose,
from being compelled to pay a bill of a shilling to the magis-
trate's clerk. _

Mr. ORD expressed regret at being compelled to oppose
this amendment, the effect of which would be to legalise an
oath which was now voluntary.
__

After a few words from Mr. H. Hughes, Mr. Wilks, and
Mr. Hall,
Mr. PARROTT consented that the clause should confine
the exemption of fees to those cases where oaths could be
legally required. 41.
After a desultory conversation, in which several Members
took part, the proposed clause as amended, was agreed to.
The report was then brought up, and the amendments read
a second time and agreed to. The Bill was then ordered to
be engrossed.
HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICERS' BILL.

On the motion of Mr. GUEST, the order of the day was
then read for a Committee on the House of Commons
Officers' Bill.

Mr. HUGHES HUGHES said that the object of
the Bill was not intended to affect the present, but
the future officers of the House. The Bill spoke of
sinecure offices ; surely the public would not consider
the Speaker's office to be cne of that description.
Not two years ago a Bill was passed to support the
dignity of the House, and to fix the -Speaker's sa-
lary at 6,0001. This Bill proposed to cut down that
salary to 5,0001., and he should wish to know for
what reason. He had seen the Speaker detained in
the chair until three o'clock in the morning during the last
week, and his salary was certainly not too much. It was
also proposed to remove one of the assistant-clerks,
while it Vq.as evident the business was almost more
than could be got through with the present force. Feeling
that no adequate remuneration could be given to the Speaker
for his services, and that the Bill was altogether unnecessary,
he protested against the Speaker leaving the Chair.
Mr. GUEST said that there had ben reductions in the
salaries of other Officers of the State, many of whom were
engaged the entire year, and received only 5,0001. He pro-
posed to reduce the head clerk's salary 50/. It was not
intended, however, to apply the bill to the present officers.
Mr. C. WYNN thought it quite unnecessary to go into
Committee. The sum of 6,0001. was allowed to the
Speaker, to enable him to maintain a dignity equal
to his office, but large as that sum appeared, it was unequal to
its purpose. As to the clerks, their duty was not confined to
the mere sitting in the House, but they had much to do when
the House was not sitting.—( Hear.) r He could not agree
with.the motion for going into Committee.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR always wished to see salaries regu-
lated by services, and would therefore suggest that the Rouse
should adjourn.
Mr. RIDLEY COLBOURN would not support such a
Bill.

Colonel DAVIS suggested that the Hon. Member should
pledge himself to confine the Bill to useless offices only. -
Mr. STEWART trusted that his Hon. Friend would not
in the then state of the House press the Bill further. He
thought that the system of perquisites should be altogether
abolished, and a liberal salary granted to all officers. He did
not think that the Speaker should have a less salary than at
present.___ - - . . - - -

Mr. GILLON supported the Bill, and hoped it would be
pressed.
Mr. GUEST had not heard any arguments against going
into Committee on the Bill. He was in the hands of the
House.

After a few words from Mr. `'ILK S, in support of the bill,
The Gallery was cleared for a division, when there not
being Forty Members present, the House stood adjourned.

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