The Sun.
London, England, 1802-02-06 00:00:00

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had beeh Met with laughs an 3 sneers, n 4 in SUC case he thought a Member was entitled to the pro_-
teaion of the Chair:
The CH.I.I\rELLOR of the EXCHEQ
UERen..'
said, he sincerely concurred with the Hon. G
tieman who had just sat down, in hoping that
the People would exert their Franchises, in chusing
such Representatives as would support the true
interests of the Country and of their Constituents.
Upon what ground the Hon. Gentleman had felt
himself warranted in applying the epithets of scan_
dalous expenditure to those Accounts, he could not
Conceive ; he confessed he did not expert such an
expression from a Gentleman of his candour and
liberality, but he defied him to the proof—he de-
fied him to lay his finger on any one item to which-
that epithet could be fairly applied. He was far
from complaining, on the contrary he sincerely
Papplauded a vigilant and jealous conduft on the
ert of that House, with regard to the expenditure
of Public Money. He wished to have every part
of the condua of Ministers investigated, particularly
that part which related to the expenditure of public
anoney.—i-le-had listened to the observations of the
.Hon. Gentleman who spoke first, With patience, and
that was all he could say ; be had listened to him
with all the respea due to a Member of Parliament.
He could not follow the Hon. Gentleman through
all 'the observations he made, because he knew his
Hon. Friend near him had turned his attention par-
ticularly to that subject. There were, however,
two or three points on which he begged leave to say
a few words—The accounts upon which Clentlctrian .hadbeen descanting, had been the Hen,presented,
from the great diligence which had been
employed,
at an earlier period than usual, and the Hon. Gen_
good sense must suggest to hint that it was
proper to abstain from making the pecuniary ar-
rangements for the year for a certain period, that is
to say, till after the making the Loan.—It was his
intentioo to propose a grant for a part of the Ex-
traordinaries of the current year, but when it was
fouud that the amount of the E • •
4 xtraordinanes of the
i •
aast year could be made out, he thought it would be
better, in the first instance, to clear off the expeaces
Hof the last year. One of the sums to which the
onourable Gentleman had objected, was a sum of
Gentleman
i'Orhoool. to ',Lord Mtaaro ; and the Honourable
wished to know what it was for. In
bpening this subject, he stated distinal y that the
•Itpencet were divided into three heads viz Con-
tinental Expences ;Ex pence • ' ' •
s in the West Indies;
and all the remaining sums were for Expences in
rkgypt. He stated that it havi been - d •
ng found im-
possible to raise money for the Army in Egypt, it
had been found necessary to o • '
pen communications at
tCI st-' •
n antinopte and Vienna, and to raise money
iht
.re by drawing bills up England,and remit
on to
the sums, so raised, to Egypt. This was the appli_. ition of the money which the Hon. Gentleman sup_
tad was paid to supetaniniated Ambassadors a they
ittyl tio connexion whatever with the Noble Lord's
d_tplom
01. atie eliarader. With regard to the sum °f
ntiataleo paid to theLandgrave of Hesse Cassel, it
s_an item that formerly attracted the attention of
he an
It WaS perhaps a'subjed of !egret, that
141:-' money had not been paid beibre, becaUse, upon the
3nitice of the dtmand, there could not be two opinions,
because it was the .
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result of the positive obligations
0 a T
kin reatY: With regard to the sum paid to the
gof Sardinia the factshortly this '—The
Subsidy granted' was .
to that Prince Was 200,0.001. per
annurn-a.
....a, 100,0001; of which was paid, and the
Warrant for t Other the.oo,o '
odl._ was made out at
*hen the Y
the Treasur but it was not
ten
atendered for payment,tt
a came ill that account
of the Misfortune which be_
oa are!' in 1 6
79 • His claim, however,
upon this Counti
otiiplied
with
the Treat
as complete; because he had
Cdritideratibni nor reat•
After a great deal of
stration, but so kin, during the present Admini:_
was determined to 4 a'as
October
a iSco, it
the claim. ,of the
Xing Of Sardinia, anti .admit
it was to be paid at the
fate a 40001, a month: t°
determination
*vas carried into eii'ett ' '
.
, and. the present Minia
titers, being satisfied -bf the ' ' -
Justice of the demand,
follbwed the ex. '
Ho ti: • ample of their predecessors. The
. n. Gentleman had coat nd d '
charges
were
not
for
ivii.t. e , that many of these i,adry.Services, and there-
' fore ought not to be clat in the Army Extra"
ordinaries. But the Fickfr e Cat
error upon this subjeft ; it
wasnitlemanibwias in an
fine the Army Extraordinaries to CintPtcalsgs. eft° con-
na.
tare Merely Military: Undoubted' I -ea*S °1
a
not ter de-
scription Might be given to them • l't:t •
, it. would be
impossible to separate the Services of a Military oa
-lure, froM those bf another deseription: With -
gard to the want of Dates; this hurl been a sub•reect-
,;,af .dam for a lung time: •• When they could
t given, they alWaya were--Lbut every labd ' ac
nuanateal with the sub'e,t} ••be ' • ) Chet"
_ tnast convinced,
It was utter! • ' ' •*1
Y tmPosstbile to give them ii every •
1 in-
stance. ' '
'I he Hon. Gentleman, had ' ,
a, sta.ed one point
as a matter of fade, i
.n. Which he begged leave to-
tally to differ fro •
/a,d said, that
when
hitt% The Hon: Gentleman
, !" the Vate of Credit was voted
last year, he,
ttne CHartcaLaort of the Ex-
Cif! ) f,t/ER/ had stated, that the S' m then
granted,
Would cover all the E• •• a s 1
, atraordinary Expetices.•- e
begged leave to s
did not speak et the HOTI. Gentleman rights he
confidently upon the subjed ; he had
merely ex - .
p,essed a hope that the sure then granted
aatilld be sufficient• _ He stated that a Negotiation
Was then pending, and if it ended in a Peace; many
expenses would necessaril be b I 1
y a 6( geL , and there
i ,
:re he would not ask for a larger sum, - If there
were any other points which had d "•'
es '
ma e any i.npr -
sion upon the Housei he was perfectly ready to en.
ter into an explanation he was riot
aware of any other ;at present, points, which rendered it neces-
sary for him to tresp upon the House.
what ass u
Mr. m
had said Right Hon. Gentleman in
partieulara-but-merely to inculcate that a greater
ture.
attention ought to be paid to the Public Expendi
yoxEs said, he thought his Hon. Friend
and ) deserved thanks' for his exenions ;
he perfettly agreed with the Hon. Gentleman
, heliind him (Mr. Maar' al) with respea to those
MtplherS who negleded their duty. There were
itiarhy dear and worthy friends of his who did not
attend their duty, and he hoped not a man of thein
vould be returned at the next General a cipae nao.re dun thin, when Lila vi talsEledion tel the. PeAt
a*.
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