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r ance with those principles which this house, as representing the
gi eat body of the people, is called upon to support,"
Mr. F. O'CONNOR seconded the amendment.

Lord ALTHORP did not see that there existed any
grounds for such an inquiry as the proposed by the amend-
ment. The address proposed nothlng detrimental to the
interests of Ireland, but, on the contrary, it affirmed that
which he was sure every rational man in both countries
conceived essential to the promotion and preservation of
their best interests—namely, the continuance of the legis-
lative union. (Hear, hear.)
The amendment was then withdrawn.

The address was then agreel 10, and vas orl.red to
be communicated to the Lords to-morrow (this diiy) for
their concurrence.

BEER BILL

Sir E. KNATCHBULL moved for leave to bring in a
bill to regulate the sale of beer.
Mr. IVARBURTON hoped that in the present state of
the house, and at this late hour, the hon. baronet would
postpone this important motion.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL said that he had postponed his
motion more than once in order to give way to other busi-
ness. He hoped, therefore, he should now be allowed to
introduce the bill.

Lord AL THORP hoped that the hon. baronet would be
allowed to introduce his bill, under the circumstances he
had stated, as there would be an ample opportunity for dis-
cussing it on the second reading.
Mr. HUME said that a question in which so many in-
terests were concerned should not be hastily dealt with.
The house should be cautious in adopting any changes with
regard to the sale of beer, and in a matter in which thou-
sands and tens of thousands were interested, the grounds
of any measure that might be brought forward should be
in the first instance distinctly stated. If the proposed bill
should be introduced without the grounds of it being
stated, the second reading of it might not come on for a
month or two, and in the meanwhile, the greatest alarm
might prevail throughout the country on the subject.
Lord HOWICK hoped that the hon. member for Brid-
port would not persevere in his objection to the introduc-
tion of this bill. That hon. member was aware that he
(Lord Howick) agreed with him in principle, as to the im-
propriety of allowing any monopoly in the sale of beer, but
it was impossible for any man to look at the present state
of things without seeing that a necessity existed for some
improved police regulations with regard to the beer shops.
(Hear, hear.) He believed that the bill of the hon. baro-
net merely went to introduce improved police regulations
on the subject. At the 'same time he was sure that the
hon. member for Middlesex and the hon. member for
Bridport would consider it right and fitting to endeavour
to prevent the abuses which certainly had prevailed. In
respect to the alarm which was said to be produced by the
introduction of this bill, nothing was so likely to dispel that
alarm as to allow the bill to be introduced and printed,
which would enable the public to see the nature of the
measure which was proposed. He hoped, therefore, that
the house would allow the bill to be introduced.

Air. ROEBUCK said that the house ought to watch the
proceedings of the hon. baronet on the subject, knowing
what his sentiments were.

Mr. E. A. SANFORD supported the motion for the
introduction of the bill. When the plan was before the
house, it could be seen what it was, and whether it was
likely to remedy the inconveniences of the present system.
Colonel EVANS thought that the hon. baronet should
state what was the purport of his measure.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL said that, after the length of
time which the late debate had occupied, he had not felt
himself justified in entering into the details of the bill.
He would, however, state the principal objects of it, and
he thought it would appear that the hon. member (Mr.
Roebuck) was not so well acquainted with his sentiments
as he supposed. No proposition would come from him for
curtailing the enjoyments given to the poor by the former
bill ; but if, as it was generally acknowledged, there were
great inconveniences existing under the present system, it
ought to be the object of the legislature, by mild measures,
to prevent them. He should submit in his bill the expe-
diency of requiring from venders of beer, in addition to a
license, testimonials from a certain number of persons rated
at a certain sum to the poor, a certificate of the expe-
diency and necessity of a beer-house in a parish, and the
fitness of the person who proposed to keep it. He also in-
tended that there should be some power of control over
these houses in respect to the conduct of them.
Earl JERMYN made a few remarks, the purport of
which we could not collect.

In answer to a question from Mr. GISBORNE—
Sir E. KNATCHBULL said he proposed to leave it
to the magistrates to decide the hour at which the houses
should close.

Mr. WARBURTON said, that when the clause was
moved which required certificates, he should divide the
house upon the question, because it was calculated to in-
t roduce all the favouritism of the old system.

Mr. SLANEY supported the introduction of the bill.
The house then divided, when there appeared—
Ayes
Noes
Majority i,i favour of the bill —B5 •
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.
`JEPILSON obtained leave to brim- in a bill to
alter and amend the act 5 George IV., c. 74,° for establish-
ing uniformity of weights and measures in Ireland.
Colonel VERNER obtained leave to bring in a bill to
empower the foreman or any other member of grand juries
in Ireland (being a magistrate) to administer oaths to wit-
nesses.

Mr. PETER postponed his motion to call the attention
of the house to a breach of privilege committed by the Earl
of Warwick.

On the motion of Sir J. GRAHAM, the Merchant
Seamen's Bill was read a second time, and ordered to Le
committed on Thursday.

On the motion of Lord HOWICK, the Justices of the
Peace Bill was read a second time.
COUNTY RATES' BILL.
The bill to regulate the expenditure of the county rates,
and funds in aid thereof, was read a first time, and ordered
to be read a second time on Monday next.

The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the house adjourned at half-past two o'clock.

:IRISH MEMBERS
WHO VOTED -AGAINST the REPEAL, of the UNION,
Acheson, Viscount Corry, H. L. Martin, John
Arehdall, General Daly, J. Maxwell, H.
Bateson, Sir R. Dobbin, L. Maxwell, J.
Belfast, Earl of Evans, G. Moyne% H.
Bernard, W. S. Ferguson, Sir R. A O't allaghan, C.
Browne, J. Fitzgibbon, Hon. It. O'kerrall, R. M.
Browne, D. Forbes, Viscount i O'Grady, S.
Carew, R. S. Gladstone, T. O'Reilly, W.
Castlereagh, Visct. Hayes, Sir E. Oxmantown, Lord
Chapman, M. L. Hill, lord Arthur Perceval, Colonel
Chichester, Lord Hill, Lord M. Perrin, L.
Christmas, W. Howard, R. Shaw, F.
Clements, Lord Jephson, C. D. 0. Stawell, Colonel
Co'e, Lord Jones, T. Stewart, Sir H.
Cole, Hon. A. Knox, J. H. Talbot, J.
Conolly, E. M. Larhbert, H. Tennant, J. E.
Cooper, E. J. Lefroy, Dr. T. Verner, W.
Coote, Sir C. Lefroy, A. White, S.
Copeland, W.. Martin, T. Young, J.

WHO VOTEI
Baldwin, Dr.
Barron, H. W.
Bellew, R. M.
Blackney, W.
Blake, J. M.
Butler, Hon. P. S.
Callaghan, D.
Finn, W. F.
Fiugerald, T. .
Fitzsimon, N.
Fitzsimon, C.
Galway, J. M.
Grattan, H.
La:or, P.

?ISH MEMBEI
FOR the REPEAL
Lynch, A. H.
Macnamara, W.
Macnamara, F.:
Mullins, F. W.
Nagle, Sir R.
O'Brien, C.
O'Connell, D.
O'Connell, Morgan
O'Connell, Maurice
O'Connell, John
O'Connell, C.
O'Connor Don
O'Dwyer, A. C.

of the UNION.
Roche, 1).
Roche, W.
Roe, J.
Ronayne, D.
Ruthven, E.
Ruthven, E. S.
Sullivan, R.
Talbot, J. H.
Vigors, N. A.
Walker, C. A.

TELLRES.
O'Connor, F.
Sheil, R. L.

Against
For

ABSENT.

O'Neil, General -----
Keane, Sir H..
Grattan, James
DID NOT VOTE

3

Barry, G. S.
French, F.
Wallace, T

VACANT.

Carrickfergus
Dungarvan
Monaghan

3

105
•
The Minority cons steel entirely of Irish Members, with the
exception of Mr. J. Kt.nnedy, Member for Tiverton.

LIST OF THE MINORITY

Of 17 (Tellers included), who voted against the Introduction cf

.a
New Beer Bill.
ENGLAND. Thicknesse, R. 'Fitzsimon, C.
Aglionby, H. A. ,'Dkvyer, C. A.
Childers, J. W. SCOTLAND Ruthven, E.
Evans, Colonel Oswald, J. Vigors, N. A
G i,borne, 'l'. Wallace, R
Hawes, B.
Roetaick, J. A,
Strickland, G

ELLE, a,
IRELAND. Hu: e, Josepn
31ake, M. Warburton, H

By an Act now before the House of Com-
mons, no freeman of the Vintners' Company selling
wine by retail out of the limits of the city of London
shall in future be exempted from taking out an excise
license in the same manner as required by law in other
cases. The same act also provides that any personconvicted of drunkenness, either on view of the Jus-
tice, or on the confession of the paity, or on the oath
of one witness, shall forfeit a sum not exceeding 205.,
or be detained in custody for a time not exceeding six
/tours. _ _ _

A report prevailed yesterday that her Majesty
was atboouhter illustrioustoleaveEnpgalraenn, thedtfora pge
shoorwtaperr.4ci
period,
visit on
of Saxe Meiningen, who is said to hxa seriously in-
disposed.
LIVERPOOL çOiriZT.O;N MARKET, APRIL'2,B..
—To-Ay's demand for Cotton has been steady in cha-.
ratter and rather extensive, the sales amounting to
fully 3,000 bales at firm prices, Exporters have again
taken to the extent of 300 bales of American at Sd. to
814. per ib. The sales comprise 200 Pernams, .200
Maranhams, 100 Bahias, 100 Surats, and 9,400 Ame-
rican.