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he Queen according to the law and custom of the
halal
" Be it enacted and declared, by the Qaeen's Most
ctcellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent
6l
,the Lords spiritual and temporal. end Commons in
NI present Parliament assembled, that, notwi:hstend-
Ile anything which appears to the contrary in a certain
Act entitled the Dublin Cemeteries Act.' or in a
Train other Act, entitled 'The Act for Charitable
"citations and Bequests in Ireland,' it is not and shall
!!ct be deemed lawful for any minister or servant of the
Clown in the United Kingdom, or for any governor or
aberdinate officer in any of the dominions thereunto
belonging, on occasion of any public state or ceremonial
tit otherwise, to give ar allow any rank or precedence,
Or to use in any public, legal, or official document any
Prefix of title or appellation of honour in respect o' any
,‘°gclesiastical order or dignity in the Church of Rome,
to any person not having her Majesty's licence for such
title or appellation of honour under her Royal sign
Clannal, duly notified in the official gazette of the place;
Provided that nothing herein contained shall affect any
Usage of rank or titles in respect of any Roman Catholic
Person or see in any dependency ceded by treaty to the
gown, in which treaty there shall have been special
Provision for the maintenance of the Church of Rome
therein."
the question was as to the creation of temporal titles by
foreign Prince in our land, and the recognition of those
titles by her Majesty's Government. The principle of
15 proposition was that her Majesty WAS the fountain
honour from whom all titles were derived. He denied
the power of the Lord• Lieutenant of Ireland to give
tide or precedence in this matter, and he did not be-
me're that the celebrated dispatch to the Colonial sucre-
-7 existed. In any case the Lord-Lieutenant of Ire-
land in making such a communication exceeded his daty,
sad the Colonial Secretary did the same in acting on the
communication. If the Queen's prerogative was to be
trotected in England, it was also to be protected in
Iteland; and if it was good in England and Ireland, it
tits equally good wherever the Queen's flag was raised.
'LWhatever may be the exception in Malta, in the Maur--
muss and in Canada, the great mass of the British cold-
ales was the same as these islands, and no colony should
oh! established without the affirmation of this principle.
''the same protection, therefore, which the Crown gave
to the Church of England in this country, it was bound
to extend to the Church of England in all their colo-
Oica where the contrary was not established by special
.treaty. The nominee of a foreign Prince had been
Plated in Ireland above the Paers created by her Ma-
Jetty, which he held to be a base abandonment of the
principle that the Queen was the fountain of all honour
IS her own diminions. Her Majesty's Government,
therefore, had failed in their duty to the Crown and the
Country in this respect, while they had rained nothing
Whatever by the concessions that had been made on these
occasions. On the contrary, not the slightest sense of
gratitude had been expressed, and the word toleration
Was termed by Roman Catholics one of the most offers-
die worth which could be applied by one gentleman to
~,,stiother. He (Sir R. H. Inglis) had heard from many
400. Gentlemen that Ireland was a Catholic country,
Sad should have a Catholic church, but with all their
loyalty they forgot that the Queen was a Protestant
lovereigo, bound by her coropt‘tion oath to maintain the
Church as by law established in the three kingdoms.
(Sir ft. Inglis), therefore, called upon the Committee
to sanction the principle contained in his proposition.
Lordi). RUSSELL said the clause of the Honourable
Zaronet was not only very long, but formed a Bill in
itself. The clause brought some very grave accusations
against the Government, and, indeed, against every Go-
Vernment since 1829; and he certainly, as far as his own
Government were concerned, could not consent to a
Clause which contained such a vote of censure on them.
If the clause passed only Very few persons could take
Office under thteßill. Indeed, it appeared to him the
only person who could take office were the Honourable
Baronet himself (Sir R. Inglis) and the Honourable
Member for Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner). The clause
stated that whereas such assumptions had no founda-
tion in law or in the customs of this realm, but rather
are manifestly against all law, yet by negligence and
sufferance of late years have gained allowance and coun-
tenance, to the great disparagement of her Majesty's
Imperial Crown and dignity, and to the weakening and
disheartening of the Protestant Reformed Church of this
realm." Now these were as grave and solemn charges
as could be brought against any Administration, and it
supposes a censure on Administrations which had sanc-
tioned them. The clause went on to the enactive part,
and said that, notwiths ending certain Acts of Par-
liament, " it shall not be lawful for any Minister or ser-
vant of the Crown, or for any governor or subordinate
officer in the United Kingdom or dominions thereto be-
longing, on occasion of any public state or ceremonial,
to give or allow any rank or precedence or to use in any
Public or legal document any prefix of title or appella-
tion of honour in respect to any ecclesiastical order or
dignity in the Church of Rome." Now what these °c-
essions of state or ceremonial, end what the titles of rank
and honour were, it was difficult to say. Suppose
there was an order in Council, in which a Roman Catholic
bishop was termed a Right Rev. Prelate, was it con-
tended that this prefix ought not to be given? The clause
bent on to say with regard to the colonies, that no such
titles shall be given to Roman Catholic prelates in them,
unless the colony becaese ours by capitulation, and a
special provision on that head had been made. Now it
*est be recollected that in many of our colonies it was
the colonial legislature that decided questions with re-
gard to their own 'Affairs, and therefore if this clause
passed, the question would be raised whether the Impe-
rial Legislature was to overrule the acts of the colonial
legislature. It was certain that acts of the colonial legis-
lature would be at variance with this Act of Parliament,
and this would create an amount of confusion in the
colony which could hardly be thought desirable. Be-
sides, there was homily any Minister but who might be
tried some day or other for a misdemeanour, he having
offended against the provisions of this Act. Now, he
Dad met Archbishop Murray at a public dinner, and had
asked him, as a'fitting mark of respect, to go out before
him. That, he thought, was a proper ceremony; but
would not that be actionable under this clause? These
were acts that were done by all former Governments;
and if an alteration was made it would produce so much
confusion, that he certainly should not consent to the
clause being brought up.
The Committee then divided, when there appeared--
For the clause ... 121
Against it ... ... 166
Majority against the clause ...--45
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and asked
leave to sit again.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he would take the Committee
of Supply on Thursday. but he thought the House would
not be able to go into Committee then.
On the Woods and Forests Bill being committed pro
forma,
Mr. HENLEY objected to the morning sittings, as in-
terfering with the regular business of the House.
Lord J. RUSSELL fixed the Customs Duties and
Window Tax Bills for the 7th of July.
GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH BILL.

The House having gone into Committee on this Bill,
the clauses were agreed to.
Mr. HOLLAND moved that Hastings be included in
the schedule.
Lord SEYMOUR, opposed the motion.
The Committee divided, when there appeared—
Ayes ..• ..• ... 43
Noes ... 82
Majority against including Hastings —39
The preamble was agreed to, and the Bill ordered: to
be reported„ -
Tha r,isrentian a Offnces Bill was considered with
amendai4* ? which. 'wet& kgreed to, and ordered to be
printed
HOUE-UADE,pPIRITS IN BOND. •
On the order for the' bringing up the report on this
measure being read;
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
would not oppose the reception of the report at that
hour (near one o'clock), but he hoped the Noble Lord
would fix a day upon which a discussion might be taken
upon the question at an early hour.
Lord NAAS expressed his obligation to the Right
Hon. Gentleman fur the course ho had taken, and said,
all those who were supporters of the measure were as
anxious as he was for a discussion upon it.—( Hear.)
The report was then received.
The Civil Bills (Ireland) Bill passed through Commit

tee, and the report was ordered io be received on Mon•
day next.
THE STATE PRISONERS
IN VAN DIEMEN'S
.
Mr. ANSTEY said he had recently declined pressing
motion which he had introduced in reference to those
parties who had received tickets of leave in Van: Diemenc
Land. Since then he had heard from the ,colonyA,and
all he hed statedpad been confirmed. He wZuldy Were-
fore, then move, pursuant to notice, an addreetVfor (*mini
of all correspondence between his Excellef
Slr wit-'
Eam Denison, Lieutenant-Governor of Vne:-Diensen's
Land, and the police magistrates of Newt,NOrfollt':ttnd
Launceston, on the subjects noticed in hixeerlea4o,
dispatch of the 14th day of January, 18..51 •Lin-Onti-
nuetion of Parliamentary Paper, No. 316; • of session
1851); and of the proceedings taken befoee the.o4k,
police magistrates on the matters in question. -
Mr. HAWES said the documents referred to hid not
been received, and therefore could not be :pr
There There was another objection to the motion, and that was
that farther legal proceedings had, been commenced
against the partie3, and until such had terminated they
could not hear from the colony on the subject.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL wished to know at what
time these papers might be expected? It would be very
easy for a Governor who did not fancy entering into
explanations to keep a matter hanging over until the
interest in it should have died away.
Mr. p
rolonga there was no wish on the part of
any one to p these proceedings, or delay any ex-
planations that might be required.
After a few words from Mr. GRATTAN,
Mr. ANSTEY consented to withdraw his motion, Mr.
RAWES having undertakenito communicate to the Go-
vernor that such papers had been moved for.
ANNUITY TAX, EDINBURGH.
Colonel THOMPSON, on behalf of Mr. John Ben-
jamin Smith, moved " That the petition of the Provost
and Magistrates of the Royal Burgh of Queensferry,
praying that Queensferry be included in any Bill for
abolishing the Annuity-tax, be referred to the Select
Committee on the Annuity-tax (Edinburgh), and that
the Committee be instructed to inquire into and report
upon the allEßCHANTegations containedSEAMEN'S FU in the saidvNDetition."
M.
Mr. LABOUCHERE moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to amend the Acts relating to the Merchant Seamen's
Fund. At that late hour he would not trespass upon the
attention of the House by going at any length into the
question, sihe Might hayodone_bad ,be been able to
bring on the subject sooner. Every one acquainted with
the matter knew what a grave cause of complaint that
fund furnished, which was then in a most miserable con-
dition and a state of hopeless insolvency. The fund was
raised by a sort a corepulepry tax pf sixpence a month