The Sun.
London, England, 1802-04-03 00:00:00

TRINIDAD.

Mr. CANNING said, he rose to snake the Mo-
tion of which -he had given notice,- and as he'flat.
tered himself that no objetion would be made to
it, he should state, as.shortly as possible, the teasons
on', which he founded the present Motion, which
was preliminary to one of which he had also given
notice relative to the cultivation of the Island of
Trinidad: .—He did not disguise that his attention
was dire&ed to the ceiestion relative to the Slave
Trade, though he did not mean then to enter into the
discussion of that question ;. but_ often as it had been
discussed, and amidst the „variety of congifting.
opinions relative to that subject, he had never beard
any one. attempt :a maintain that if the Slave. Trade
did not now exist, it ought to be commenced. There
had been only two points relatiVe • to this- subject
that had been decided upon by the House, the one in
1792, that the Slave Trade should be gradually
ablylished, and the other in 1797, when an Address
to 'His Majesty was voted, praying-that His Ma-
jesty would be graciously pleased to take such mea-
sures as would lead to the diminution and ultiniate
abolition of this r.ilTade,. It must be -admitted, that
to-bring a great extent of new lands
.into cultiva-
tion, must, be very fir from contributing to the ul-
timate Abolition-of this Trade, and if the whole
Island of Trinidad was brought into cultivation, it
evidently could not contribute to that Abolition. It
was important, therefore, that the Hotise should be
in possession of authentic information relative to
this Island. If l was not misinformed, the land
to be put intoa state of cultivation, in the Island of
Trinidad, was somewhat more than half the whole
quantity of land which was cultivated in all our
West India Islands.. According to a Statement
published by a Member of that House, now no more,.
the whore yrantitY of land in a state of cultivation,
in the Island of Jamaica, in the year 1795, amounted,
to riooo,ooo of Acres, -employing two hundred.
and fifty thousand Slaves. If he was not much.
misinformed, the Island •of Trinidad contained
800,000. acres, of which, at the time it was- cap.:
turect.• by Great _Britain, .only: one eighteenth was
in as•state of cultivation, employing about. ro,ooo
negroca. If 250,000 negroes." were empkyed
.in'
the
..cultivation of ,the- lands in Jamaica, he :
quested Gentlemen would have in their minds and•
consider the number of negroes which must be
ported to stock the lands of Trinidad. The ob-
jcaion -niost frequently wade by those who opposed
the abolition of zh..! Slave Trade was, that it was in-.
jurious to the vested ini,4rests of the West India
proprietors. :N,o marl was. less than, him,

17)141tto trench upon those vested interests, hut this
iiljeo.ron"would tend .rather to-strengthen the rno-
tion'which he intended to bring . forward, .as. the
,great advantage resulting from confining his' mo-
tion to ',Trinidad, was., that'theie,:was very.little
property vested in that Island ; and he particular-
ly, wished to know, as nearly as possible, how
,many Individuids had a vested._ interest in that.
Island. There was one point' he' wished to atii
inadvert upon ; he had been informed that since the
capture of Trinidad some resumption' grants of.,
landhad been .made. The. Spaniards .had. made se-
veral grants of this nature, as they had formerly
done in Jamaica, that is to say, the lands were_ to
be .resumed if not put in a state of cultivation. with-
in a certain, time. He
_wished to .know what the
criterion was by which it was ascertained that the.
lands were not put into a state of propercultiva-
don. Upon considering the subieet, it struck hint
that nothing was so likely to be the criterion :as
the 'number of .labourers or slaves employed in the
cultivation of the land. If this was the case,- and
if the land was liable to be resumed if there was
not a sufficient number of slaves employed in its
cultivadon, it became a question What was the least
number of negroes without which the land could.
not be put into a proper state of cultivation.; .Upon
looking at Jamaica, he foundsthat 250,000 negroes
were employed in the cultivation of' 1,-000,000
acres, or one negro-to every four acres ; he might
take this, therefore, as the least number of ne-
groes, without which the land could not be .suffi...
ciently curtivated. He wished, however, that the
House shOuld be in possession of every information
relative to the subj Ca. He concluded by moving,
" That an humble AddresS should be presentcd-t6 His
Majesty, praying that His Majesty would be graciously
pleased to give diredions that there should be laid .before the
House, copies or Abstrads of all. Letters and Informa-
tion received from the Governor or Commander' in Chief of
the Island of Trinidad, since the period of its capture, rela-
tive to the state of the Cultivation of the Island, klid an Ac-
count, of the difyent Classes of Inhabitants, and like-
wise of any Allotments' of Land made since the Capture ;
also Copies of all Orders sent to the Governor of the said
Island, relative to the Settlement of the same, and also an
Account of the Lands resumed, with the reasons of such
resumption,"

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, it was not his intention to objet to the Mo-
tion made by the Right Hon. Gentleman, nor to offer
many observations on the nature of the information,
it would pimike, provided the House shopldagree
to the Address,- and His Majesty should, as unques-
tionably he would, be pleased to make an Order ac.,
cordingly. He .was 'only, ,desirous. that the Right
Hon, Gentleman and the House should understand the
Matter, and should not be misled, by supposing that
the information to be obtained in consequence of
this Address, tvoulsl amount to that which the
Right Hon. Gentleman seemed to exped. It must
be the wish of Governnient that every information
possible should be laid-before-Parliament, !so as to
enable it to form a correa opinion of the value of
that important acquisition, • (Trinid;:td) Which* was
made by His Majesty's arms, and secured by the
Definitive Treaty ; but ho owed it • to the House to:
say, that after having made pretty. diligent inquiry,
he had not been able to obtain such information•a•s
the-Right Hon. Gentleman seemed to -eitpeti, reli-
tive to the allotment or distribution of, land in that
part of the world, He had not received speeifie.in-
formation on the subject o£ the- grants of lands made
by the authority. -of Government,-'nor under
the head of instructions to •GovernotS, &c. had
he received that which was now desired by the
Right Hon. Gentleman. With. respeCi to the latter
part of the Motion aS,it ielatca to theßesßesumption.
of w -Lands, it as a h h
sullied with Whic,e, was. at
present unacquainted... He-haif. endeavoured tij'ac-
quire, at the Secretary of State's Office, all that
could be colleCted of inforniatio'n 'in that particular,
but
.be inclined-to-think, that at.prisent
.no intel-
ligence. would be had there upon that subjed; -pre-
vions to the Noble Lord-iVho was noW at the head
ofthat Oce receiving' the charge. alit ; but every
thing 'would be had from that quarter that could
reasonably be expeted. 'He thOugitt it his duty to
say this, because he was extremely desirous, that the
House, in acquiescing to sucha Motion as ti2at now
'before them, should not entertain expedations of
information, which he was inclined to think could
not be afforded. All that he could 'Say was, that if
the HOUse should agree to-the Address now propos-
ed, every thing that depended upon GovernMent
would be done to give it full - effect; but no infer.'
ence was to be drawn from this acquieficence; that
the Motion would be the means of procuring. all
the information which was expected. The Motion
being put, .
General GASCOYNE said, there were some ob-
servations made by the Right Han. Gentleman who
brought this matrerforwat4which re,qpirg4 a word
hr two from hini. --The Right Hon: Gentleman had
asked, -whether, if the Slave Trade hair not yet
existed, there was any Member of Pirliametit-Who
would venture to recommendits:lnStitution ? Now,
there-certainly was such a MeMber of Parliainent,'
and he was that person. He Would-say, that. if-the
Slave Trade had neverexisted., viewing, as he did,
the beneficial consequences .of it to this Country,
and feeling his duly as,a Member otParlianlent,
sirous 'of increasing the wealth of-this Country,. and
particularly as the Representative of 'a 'great Com.:
mercial Town--knowing' the advantages of this!
Trade, as he did—the Slave-',crade onghf.tob-e
menced now., if it had never before been instituted,
The advantages of this 'Trade. were inimense;',they,
were not locally' -confined fb the. TOwn .he repre-
sented, !bat.were generally diffused, over the whore.
of this Country. Any manwhoeonsideredAe:4,
vantages we derived from: the West India I-stands,
would soon be Co 4 viPacer,
part of the Right Honourable,Gentlernan's. Speech,
which glanceil at the extension of the :Trade,
and the restriction which he hinted it would be
be prudent . to adopt as to the culiivatiOn Of land i 4
the Islands, there was much reason to apprehend.
that his objed would not be attained',: even if this
Country allowed no more-cultivation of land by
the Slave 'Trade in the West ,Indies, for the Ame-
ricans had taken-it up, and had. entered
.into Con_
tracts with the Spaniards for a vast number'of Slaves..
They would not confine themselves to One Island, so
that nothing which the. Right Hon. Gentleman
could do, together with the efforts of the Hon. Gen-
tleman below him, who. had done so much mischief.
[Here the Hon. Membetwas caUed to Order from. the

Cha;rlHe submit te to ntittority,butroeneded to gr.
.gue against the policy of indulging in' arliamen anY
plan whatever for restricting any part of the Sir!
Trade, alledging that the restriftions already 1.11:
posed, had been highly injurious to that tralEc,
his t?
t,
so fir injurious to the trade and commerce of
country. He reserved to himself the full right a
speaking at large hereafter up p
on this subjett.
Mr: iIf4LBERFORCE supported the motion; a
proved of the sentiments expressed by the Right
Hon. Gtntleman- who made it, and answered thy..
observations of the. Hon. IVlernber who had just sag
down.—He was called to order by
S'iriff. YOUNG, who apprehended that this Br
anticipating the discussion of the .whole question
:about to be submitted to the House.
Mr. WILBERFORCE disclaimed all wishes to
anticipate that..question, and expressed ,a readiness,
to meet it fulls' When it should come before the House.
The motion was then, pUt and carried.
• GeNeral GASCOYNE propose ov
d to .me, thac
there be laid before the House the Vroduce a th ,
;
&c..-.for several years, by way of shewin
ears
prodigious increase- in these articles of _late yn
to show the value of the trade ; at the same ririe ;
he said. he shoUld withdraw it, if any Meir'ae
Cottor
West India Islands in Coffee, Rum, Sugar,

present objected to it for want of notice. and
' Mr. Pr..,ordEtt objected on that very grou,ll-','ber
so the motion was withdrawn, the -flon.-Pae"",;••
giving notice he'should move it on Monday next: of
The Order of the Day for the second re next]
the' Coroners' I3ill, was deferred to WednesdaY
on the Motion of Mr. MAINWARING. • og,
The Houie, on the• Motion of the CHANcEI';I
of the EXCHEQUER,. resolved _itself into a 'Qco
mitlee of the whole .House, to consid:r-further oL.
Supply• c 0 be. granted to His MAJESTY.
-3
g s id,
• The.o HA NC ELLO R the EXCHEQUEi- 1c
he hid .to submit to the Committee certain reso.ce:
•dons, with,reference„to the Miscellaneous Setvlito
not provided for by Parliament, the aggegoi,
amount of. which was 16,8zz1. 75.
eulari of which were 'before the House into Whit()
he was not disposed,to enter, .unless caile4 urn
to
do so, and in that case, he professed a readine'Sto
explain.—There was a sum of 5,6490,2 i S.' cu
amount of the Corn. Importation RountY ; aj un-
certainly enormous,. but necessary, and inaGat in
avoidable. It was, howeveii to be. wished. ;110,311
future we should be as well prepared as '1
prudence could be, to •meet a similar Ilh it.
tnity, should it. please God..to the
there were consilsrable hopes that a part ic!„..f to
UniraKinkslom. Might be'able ailbrd re'!",,,, of
this Country, and diminish at least the necessl't of
our having- such supplies from the Col-161'4.°r ay
Patine or elsewhere. It was our duty`to c'croa)r
our prayers .to 1-:lcal;en that a similar calanhits qo
not again visit. Us—next, to provide. such
human capacity could devise 'to alleviate rh, a
e‘,rsoa
sure, if it came. ' Having,expatiated on t",'„' foa,
other heads of .the Miscellaneous Services, 11,e IL 011
ceeded to'nfove the several'ResolutiOns, wh'c'•
passed the Camittee; after many obser,vl.3e rens
Were ..made by Mr.- RoBSON upon the (lith the
heads, .and
_which Were amply explained l'Yos,
CHANCELLOR Of the ,EXO/cia4ZtiElt - And
suri•A'a. •
In the :discussion of one • of the Resold .W
whickMr..A.OI:(IIkIGTON explained twice,, andiefet.
Ro )3s o N complained stilt the information was 'crop
dye, Mr:- AbcrinoTort took occasion to (Otiose
that•he would pot 'apply to the 'Hon. Member
words whichhad been on a former occasion
to him, although he felt the fitness of the arg
don of them ; and then c's erste'
Nr.SHAI!LEPEVRS• took occasion t° dart
he could not help regretting that, from day ,to cot'
the time of the House had 'been consumed in
reeling the ,misrepresentations of the Hon• Gentle'"
es"
inao Mr, RolsoN);
.and he could not het Fl'o
pressing a wish that the HOn. Member woillitie sub'
ture•Obtain more accurate information on ift betble
jells on which he might be _pleased to sPea'
he called for the attention of the. House vote
a
Among the various Resolutions which wc'
by the Committee, are the following , 4 3
For New. South Wales • •
For Defraying the Expence of 'Prosectt,
tilsoonis on Account of Coin, for, the, year S 4 4
2,1.,
For Defraying Expence likely to, be incur- 4 °
red for Maintaining Conviils at Home
For Defraying'Expente of Superintending ..,624
- Aliens, &c. - - • 6
•
For Defraying the Charge of the Civil
Establishment of Canada - °
For Defraying the Civil Establishment of 43.50
New Brunswick 4 it
For the:Civil Establishment of the Island a 1951, 4 4'*
of St. john _ ;39-
for the Civil Establishment of Cape Breton 03
For the Civil Establishment of New- IS7 17

F. fouor tnhdelacildivil
-istab-hs!lmen't-of the Ba-- .'
hama islands, in addition to Salaries, ikc• • 4 ° °
For.a dt otherhe eiv Incidental ci'e n
Establishmenttai
so °
.rripr.lslands ._ 5 23
the. Sum- . 1 °c:'
S
For the Civil -
Establishment
u of the Pro- 75'5
vince of Nova Scotia - 0
:For the Civil Establishment -
of New South S o
Wales • 590
- - ..
To make
good the Bounties of' Corn and' . 61
G rain, ' for the year endir* 2- . 'di' March, - og 59
zSot ', . - i,6909 o
For the Red 61.' '.ofthe- National - u ion
&c. -Sec.,2oe,co° Jo.,
-.- - - ,s or ,
• The House being. resumed, the Report W,-, Cr.:,
„ed . to, be .reeeived on Monday next--. ifurt'''" d i
f tre
mitteeof
. • Supply on the same day--:.74,e:e • a
Committee of Ways and Means to Allon‘'ar. sec°
The Prder of the Day being • d'for ihe
red , J
reading of the Bangor Road Bill, ' ~ sec°
Sir R. WILLIAMS moved, that it be rea'-
,e 0
time -this day three months. bet,,,v..-.
A conversation of some length took pPee ve' ill.'
Mr.. 4. SMITH, Mr. JoNEs,Lora BELGAgADE lirdtv
'}-1. -'l3ltPw?'.lE, Sir C. Bisskioer l'esil.,,NPsin
021/lERI:.F, Mr. K. POWELL, and 1N;Ir. Poidri-Leut
when. the.-House divided upon the Arne''.o,l as ea'.
Ayes to; Noes 60..,The Bin was the" 'lf jot°
.cond time. The House then resolved ..“.se, Le
Committee upon the Grenada Planters Bd.' that IPS
Mr. Alderman LUSIHNOTON s'i-d' riarite
first instalment to be paid by the Ore""'ilt roontli:
was, to have. been in the course of OA pfes,°,o isprC‘
the second in March 1803, and the tir'1:0301010,,
1804; he proposed 'to put off the fir't Elie 1'13.15
till Otober, 1803, and .moved to fill. "Ps,,iis a'‘.,
in the Committee to that effed; which '',,iu.
.oi,'
to, after a few words from Mr. Jo2'''s/

SON and Mr. WILBERiCiaCE. The keport was
ordered to be received on Tuesday. . •
The Eledion Treating Bill went through a
Cotnipittee, and the Report was brought up and or-
derded to be taken into further consideration on
Wednesday next, and the Bill was ordered to *be
printed.
The other Orders of the Day were deferred.--
Adjourned at half-past Eight o'Clock, till Monday:

THE SUN.

SOLEM QUIS DICERE FALSOM AUDEAT ?

LONDON, APRIL 3, 1832.

Tx Is morning a Dutch Mail arrived. The news
of the signing of the Definitive Treaty had not
!cached Holland, but was anxiously expefted. The
arrangement of the Internal Government of the
several Divisions of the Batavian Republic, is carried
co With the proverbial dilatoriness of the Dutch
Nation.

. .
Accounts from Berne, continue to represent the
Wretched Country of Switzerland as torn by intes-
tlrle- divisions, and harassed by perpetual apprehen-

Sions.

W .
tbssot-MAJESTY left Town yesterday morning for
din .
The
for QUEEN and PRINCESSES left Town at noon
the same place.
, Yesterday morning Mr. ABRAH.IO4 NEWLAND
Informed the Gentlemen of the Stock Exchange he
as authorized to state, that the sum wanted by,
way of loan, for the services of the current year,
would he twentv.six millions and a half, one mil-
Ali, and a half of which is to be raised in Ireland.
zeL Cr to that effea, from the CHANCELLOR of
11-e EXCHEQUER, had been received
,in the morn_
j'Y the Governors of the Bank.
COusequence of this communication, Consols
-e 1-14- per Cent.
iv After Our Paper was yesterday put to Press, we
(hi"- a X bledf, am Authority, to set the Public right
diifillt On which there seemed to be a considerable
r
it -n-rf?te of opinion, viz. on what day the Signa-
11,1'e the Definitive Treaty of Peace took place.
i-. E AUTHORITY to state, that no Copy
tivpier of the Treaty was signed by the respec-
1, rinipotentiaries of the Contra Ling -Parties
Saturday the 27th of March, at four o'clock in
the afternoon. The only way of accounting for the
to afternoon,
in the French Papers is, that late at
Tr on the zs•th, the Articles. of the Definitive
`:•.e4r)r were finally adjusted ; and for the. satis.fa,e-
°n of their respeaive Governments, the Plempo-
-I,itt'l)tiaries of Great Britain and France signed a
4q,c9ute, by which they bound themselves to sign
Treaty as then agreed upon, as soon as the
4eVetai Copies could be prepared,
A redo Lion in the Army, we understand, is. im-
11;tdi4telY to take place. The number of regi-
tiinhttsy.is to be reduced in the first instance to
t' tin its Royal Highness the Duke of YORK'S atten.
211° sn the public business of his department,•merits
;,1.-ea.t Praise. On Tuesdays and Fridays he con.
b-sa'?tlY attends 'at the Horse Guards, to transad
seesainiieniss: and' receive any military men who wish tb-
Si le . -
tar • -n'tsid presents of snuff boxes are preparing.
ti" Ythei.'Aren6l:Minister here, and, the Plenipoten-
ther Da- `krniens on occasion of the Signature of
eliniti,
e Treaty,
Mr. - -
Wed •
,d TTO waited on Lord HAWKESBURY on
Pre cni--r.l-aY) to claim the money belonging to. the
DIED Government, in the hands of Messrs. BOUR -
earlyU "nu CH.oLtE-r, which was sequestrated at an
PeTiod of the War.
Lettere..
state, • from Lord KEITH, dated 20th January,
to ; that tbe Indian Army in Egypt were.about
:tar, to the different Presidencies.
Ist yesterday a Court of Directors was held at the
0 India House, when GEORGE HILARo BAR-
of ' E.(l. was appointed to .succeed to the Office
of marqvernor.General, on the death or resignation
uis WE L ESL EY. The Court adjourned at
to h9ur till Wednesday next.
h
perused the Addresses to the FIRST CON-
zne °II the Conclusion of Peace, with great attention,
Ll' rejoice in observing, that they all breathe the
seingtinilge of temperance and moderation. Not a
the.
pent is expressed, which could possibly affront
ex, 4tional. Pride of any people, and the sincere
guintessions of congratulation on the close of a sari.
nee 1' and tearful War, evidently-prove, that the
l'eos'itY of Peace was felt by the Government and
Pie of France.
Wine`'
T/lb ' the FIRST CONSUL received the Foreign
ht, a,shadors on the 28th ult. who came to con-
Tin!ate him on the Signature of the Definitive
t,ileatY) he was dressed in the Costume of a Coun-
ti,°..„): uf State, and not as usual, in his General's
marks cc
"
The Gazette de France, very justly re-
that he chose that moment to strip him_
inif iof all'the attributes of a Warrior." This is,
things
a trifling circumstance, but such trivial
_gs often denote more important abstract -feel.
dens`
, and we.. cannot avoid considering it as .evi.
ofTof real joy at the termination of War, and as
enee of a sincere disposition to remain in a state
Moniteter of the 3oth, contains a very im-
rit
,_"„.n.t Report from the Minister of the Interior to
of`%k-:honsuls-, on the state of the Roads and Bridges
ex„,
le Republic, and ti:e Sums which have been
ttlritle td in their repration. It appears that the
on Ic),' 28,384,8,4.9 fr. zo cents, has been employed
16:nese objeCts, and the further sum of
Q.,._°:9,z93 fr. tz cents, has been allotted by the
reunvt" ;nnienr ftft. the Ordinary Expences of the cur.. trit and 12)375,556 fr. 8 cents, for the Ex-
ordinaries.

NAI"AL ArEws.

PORTSMOUTH, APRIL Z.

SAILED the Latona Frigate, for the 111C3iterra-
nean, having Dispatches on board for Lord KEITH.

Sailed the Illaidstatre Frigate to the Westward,
to be paid off.

The St. Koren= frigate having sailed for the
Westward, was recalled when she - was near the
Needles, by an order from the Port Admiral.
This day the Nelly Transport was released from
Quarantine,. and came into Harbour.

'The American Ship Corns; LE V Etr mater, from
Gallipoli, laden with oil and piaures, was cleared

from Quarantine.

Yesterday the Success, Romulus, and Dido, Men
of War, were also released from Quarantine.
Yesterday arrived the Alexandria Man of War,
from the Mediterranean, and was immediately or-
dered under Quarantine at-the IVldtherbank.