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SrCOND IttiPORT.

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'FOIE SE'. LECT COMMITTEE to whom the several Papers
presented to this !louse, relating to the Repairs of His
Majesty's Ships the Rortmgy and La Settsibiet while
under the command of Sir Horne Poen AA', are referred to
examine the several .matters contained therein relative to
the said Repairs, and to the Proceedings of the Admiralty'
and Navy lltiards, and of the Commissioners of Naval in.
quirt' thereupon ; and also to. inquire into the piicum-.
staucesettending the publication of the Report of the Na.
vy Board, dated the loth Feb. 'So.', and into the I.oss or
certain Votichers and Documents on which that Report
was trained ; putt also into the circumstances attending the
411pm-stint:of Mr. David F Wen-Bartholomew : amid to re,
port the same, togctlior with their
,Ohservations thercupes;
trorti time w tine to the House ; and who were empower..
ed.ft, ftxtrtnine into riic crin.:truittire and 'rem:base of 11
Stares for Upt of the ban: -Ships.: nave, p-,lrsutrirt to u
rder of the Ilouse, made a furthcoi ititu thy save:.
nil Matters to than referred ; and have agreed upon the!
tollowing Report :

Your Committee think 'proper, in reporting upon
the Proceedings of the Admiralty and Navy Boards,
to lay before the House a, sunnilary iccount,of such
Proceedings) together with such parts as appear tb
them to be mattnial, of the Correspondence ivhich
leas taken place hetwecn,these Boards and Sir Homts
P:pham, and between Lord St. Vincent and that
O'ilicef, on the subjea of his Account; ' •

Mr, Louis, Use appointinent a> Deputy Naval
Agent at Calcutta by. Admiral Rainier. appears to.
have been duly notified to t!a Admiralty. in July,
1802, blaring ditawn Bills on England to a large
ainOunt.on account of the eN.ences of Squadron
conitnanded-by Sir Home Popham; i.ind application
having been. made' to the .B6ard of Ad tn ircilty for
direaions Concerhing the payment c.)f. stwb Bills by
the l\-avy Board, their Lorii,llips'were inittueed, byf
the magnitude- of the demands, to transmit to that
Board,.ett thit Oth August, 1802 Sir Hama Pop.
161.11',-i 'Letters, and. !evcral Papers relating. to the
fepairs and stores of the .11,.-)inney, and bther Ship;
under-his command, with diredions to state the ex=
ponces v.-11H) ought to have been incurred, suppose
ion the Woi necessary to have been performed,
and the. Stores to 113V0 been ir.w..esiirily supplied:
The ;a v. iloard were further dire&ed to examine
how far it w.is necessary th:it th..! additional stores
purchasl at etilcutta shouli have been obtained,.
and whether .i-ach stores might not have been pro-
cured at Bombay. They were also to report upon
the rate of eichange at which Mr. Louis's Bills
were drawn. •

Tile Navy
k: I•,tige ; cttisiedeLl'uldeLL 611256"trsYli:
Adinir.d!y, by letter dated toth Septentber, express:.
ed theal,cive t satisfied. with the rirt Mr. Louis bad
'taken in the ton:mei:ion, and ordered the. bills to be
!mid ; but directed the amount to be charged, as an
inipreA ii,rainst Mr. Lonis, and also agaiost Sir
Hoina Pollain; stating the latter to have unwar-
rantably appointed Mr. Louis to a& as Naval
cer, and'authorised his drawing the bills. It was
intimated:if the sarw.! time, that as Sir Home Pop-
hain had 'ulinecessatily subje,.led then Public. to -this
heavy e%pence,-Iltproceeding with the Ships to
Bengal instead or himself of the King's stores
at Botnbay, the Board of Admiralty had judged it
proper to makeliiin responiible for the stun so ek-
pended, and the Navy Board were further dire ted
to call for Mr. Louis's account, as soon as possible 4
and having very minutely investigated the Same, to
report their opinion ow the charges therein con—
tained, for their Lordships' information and further
dire6tion.
In obedience to these orders of the 6th August
and loth Septet ter, the Navy Board made their
First Report, addresSed to. the Secretary of the Ad-
miralty; on the 18th of 'Oa. t 802 ; in which, after
mentioning " that they had exercised the utmost
attention in investigating the several accounts, and
had, subSequeatlys to their examitiations,i(as a check
and 'assistance thereto)
,reterred the' whole to.tho
respeative Officers at Deptford Yard mid advert-
ing to the eircumitance of the bills being attested as
the then inarket price at Calcutta, by two resident
Merchants of respectability,. they state, that they
do not see any reason to conclude otherwise than
that the repairs of the Ships have been executed, and
the naval stores procured upon the best, obtainable
terms.''
lii tie gtlrd to the ,absolute necessity of obtaining
the' additional stores purchased at Calcutta,. they re-
present tliemselVes as net having. means cif forming
a judgment : thb Report adds, that the Magazines
at Bombay could have supplied Sir Home Popham
with a cow;iderable part Of certain articles there enu-
merated, but 'that others there also mentioned could
not have been furnished from Bombay otherwise
than by purchase, as effe&ed at Calcutta.
It does not appear that any proceedings were had
in consequence of this Report, or any observations
made upon it by the Board of Admiralty.
Sir Home Popham arrived at Plymouth the lath
April, 1803, and came round • to Chatham on the
96th of the same month..
On the arrival of the Romney. at Chadian:4llle
Board of Admiralty issued special Orders to the, Na-
Ny Board, dated on the 16th May, 1803,, for an the
ex-
etrxapoertnesaiyinizersetdigoaitiioancciatuu; tohrepdaritorapsr4ill!pr,yi
East Indies the .Navy Board
erne
uthe ;f6onci
jok:n.y6sSifin'taeaoYtl:k.iiitiocs
tp.milicisaefss
iyi;:';:e;ti. Cp. at
iki
itt..-I.lllloetie;ratime:ll:i.
mutes
repairs pe,
weR port of
fa: h'ielso stores'od.ere andd nai tluarkee:a V'euft;irn;;sdeirde.
Ete.laittoe 013 :pace);

iicula •in their istluirics antl in their 11,-nort ; and it
:sti 1 Tat t y would probably be required
st the ii.11p.a.0,111,), of Lieu- VrOCee...l;l,li 111)011

oath. ,
By a letter from the B yard of Admiralty, dated
on the next day, viz. 17111 May, 1803,, adverting to
the possible, lueJnvenience of the Surveyor's continu-
ance at Chatham during the Whole of the survey, it
was Ordered that he should return to, town after pass-
leg one' .day at Chatham, .and instruaing the Officers
' ab It). til, Manner of conducting themselves in the
said surcey and examination. :' - ,
in ,onsequence of theSe7arders of the 16th and
17th Ml)', 1•903., Sir W'.-Rule appears to have been
sent down to Chatham an the4iiths who,- after in-
speeting the: Ileanney .iti conjun6tionwitbCornmis
sinner Hope apd proper . Officers Of Chatham Yard;
repaired ‘ them to the CommisSioner, office,
and examine, l
the Warrant Officers open, oath, as to .
the repairs done to the Ship, the necessity of such
repairs, acid the receipt and expenditure of stores. .'
Sir Ileme,Popham Was present upon this beeasion, ".
and expressed a desire that the CoMmissioned Offi
cers of the Romney, who were then in attendance,
should lie examined ;.. but it was not thought pro-
per to , go into "such examination, the Warrant Offi-
cers. beeig only mentioned i 0 the direaiOns from the
Admiralty 'ender which the Iriqniry was instituted.
In this ,stage .of the proceeding Sir Wm. Rule re-
turned to town, leaving instritaions with the Officers
to pursue the InqUiry, and make a full and circum-
stantial Report,' in, conformity with the orders given
bV,the Admiralty. - ,
file Chatham Officers made. their Report on the
3oth June ; a Copy of which the Navy Board; hav-
ing heel' previously reminded; by a letter of the 18th
time., the Admiralty,: of the orders of the 16th of
May, laid.be6re the Admiralty on the sth of July,'
1803, tog*ek.with the Papers 'therein referred to,
the eviaence of the Warrant Officers; and copies of
.the original Vouchers transmitted by Mr. Louis for
the expence incurred' on the ship.
It does not .appear that any steps were taken by
the Admiralty in consequenCe of this Report and the
DOcutnentltecompanying it.
;It appears that the. Board of Admiralty issued
or4ets on
.the :id Suly to the Navy:Voard, to inform
them what .sums of money had been drawn from
;13e.tigal. tin account of the Ships under the Orders of
Sir iforhe 'Popham; and for what purposes,' " giving
thLir Lordships all the information on. this subject
which the Pocements in their office might enable
ehem to af*rds''. hut no Report was made upon this
letter previous to the Report of the 20th Feb. 1804.
On the same day, viz. ad July; 1803, Sir H. Pop-
• Liam,. \vita had written twice to the First Lord of the
,i'Vhniraltyito request a personal interview, received
a note front Lord St.-Vincent, acquainting hitt). that
" the, Admiralty Board had direCted the Conunis
fiGIICIS (:1 the Navy to,report on the subject of the
expences incurred by the Ships late under his corn-
wand in the East Indies ; that , when the Report
sliould he received a copy of it would he transmitted
to him (Sir 11. Pophxe), with such Remarks as the
1.0 rd should think fit to make.". . .
lo cor.sequnce of this communication, Sir HoMe
l'ibe':ian kyrow to Lord St, Vincent, " submitting to
hi, Lord,hip's consideration, and pressing it upon
I,s, erns,.,,ine.s to allow it, that he should be called on
,Orson .their
enaieed to ~:.. ~,) to ley circumstances, trete -When
led into refe..L'ilee.,, would occasion considerable de-
lay" '

~ , .
Lord St. Vincent answeren tins Letter on the 23d
:Tull', stating it, though dated on the 4tlt of that
•
annuli, not to have ben received at the AdMiralty
till t)io His ,Lordship Observes, in answer ,to
Sir ihi,me requesti " that it will be pro
per faca should apply to the Board through their
Lordsliips' Secretary respe6ting;#l:.ly steps,which Ile
n.ay be desirous of having purivtd, , '
Accordingly Sir Horne POti4rwaddressed, a Let-
:ter to the Secretary of the Adthiralty on the.27th
July., in which, alteradverting to the Correspondence
that had taken place between Lord St. Vincent and
Limself, he requested Sir Evan Nepean " to move
their Lordships to dirat' the. ComthiSsioners of
Nav and ViCtualling to )ake any accounts which
Can be considered as relating to him into immediate
mvestigmion, and :to call for his personal attendance
wliNtever it, shall, be thought he cOuld, forward the
connination."
..I.he.Board of Admiralty inclosed a copy Of th is Let-
ter to the Navy Board, in a Letter of the 29th
d:reCling them " tea proceed to the examination of
the said accounts as speedily as possible, not, haw..
ever, giving him (Sir Home Popham) ,a preference
. to other accounts ;" but they do not appear to have
giv(la any dire ions to the navy gourd to call for
allow of his personal attendance. Sir H, Pop-
ham states, that he himself applied in person at the
Navy Qffice, for the purpose of giving such ex-
planation pa might be necessary, but that he 'could
not obtain an opportunity of so doing.
Oil the 30th December, 1803, the Board of Ad-
.
mi • Itl called on the Navy Board for a reply to their.
orders of the 16th 'May and 18th June, and for such
torniation as nlight have come to 'the knowledge
ati,at Board, respeEting the repairs and stores of
1.1,,! Romney and Sensible, during the investigation
of the Surveyor of the Ntwy and the Chatham Otli7
or from -any 'other inquiries of examinations
that might have taken place in consequence of
the directions above-mentioned ; hut the Letter
et .3oth.December does not alludes to the Report
the (animal. Officers, transmitted to the Adrni-
ralty cm the f;th July preceding. The Board of Ad.
miralty repeated their order to the Ntivy.' ;Board 'to
report on. the subject of Sir Home Popham's. ex-
in the East 4itlies en the tith 'Fehr=
Y,
1 8 1., atid a very pressing, int:triner, on the
1; •

o,riseiuoilee oi these Letters,. the Navy Boari
,to the Board of Admiralty the Report
{)1 the bruary, ahts4, founded upon, the or-
( ers they had received of the .16th and I 7th of May,
al July, and 20th December, 1 belog the
po:Lcontainln); the charges in respe(a to the repairs
stores 'Of 'the Romney, which griVe OCCasioll
t() tb;:, piom2,!rig in the House of Commons upon
rine obvrvations of your Committee
the evidence, ati it regards the making or sign-
ing that It.yort, will be stated licl.:e.44'Jr, as the in-
troa.AL: 01' themin this place Would. bromic in too
11- u.ch .Ipori the narri.nive cif the proceeding; qf the
;[';zird.;• he st4zient to observe txmorning
Icepott, here', 44.... t the Navy Isoard stateil

wneludingparac.,l,-rapll, that they ba,l framed it " from
the documents in office, without having cal{
Sir Home Popinun, agreeably to the ir. mode,
for an explanation on any of the circum itanCt'S re
furred to therein, concoving it to be their Lord,
'ships' intention that they should proceed in that
manner."

Upon examination of the Commissioners of the
Navy upon this subjea, they state,.that they consi-
dered the subjea referred to them respeCting Sir
Home Popham to. be a perfeEtly new one ; that in
the ordinary case of an imprest being placed against
an Officer's account it is their custom to write to

such Officer or his Agent, thus giving him an op-
portunity of making any explanation ; but - that the
case of ,Sir Horne Popham being novel in its nature,
and no intimation having been given from the Ad-
miralty to examine Sir Home Popham, they did not
think themselves at liberty so to do.
It is:stated by Admiral Markham in hiS evidence,
that no communication had taken placebetween the
Admiralty and Navy Boards, from which such in,
tention on the part,of the Adthiralty could be col-
leded ; but it is admitted by him that no intimation
was subsequently given to the Navy Board that any
misapprehension had existed in that. Board in respc6.t.
to the intentions of the AdMiralty upon this point;;
and on the contrary, in the, orderS given upon the
receipt of the Report of the, 20th February, to it-.
Titre into the conduct 'of- Sir ionic PophaM afer
his departure from Bengal, the Navy Board are Ai-
re6ted to " employ the same persons who in% eji-
gated the former accounts and expenditures, .and to
take the same peasures7 in the prosecution of this
further Inquiry.
It appears by the evidence of some of the Com-
missioners of the Navy that it was proposed at the
Navy Board to send a Copy. of the Report to Sir
Home 'Popham previous to its being laid before the
Board of Admiralty; -but .that the proposition was
objeded 'to, and after discussion over-riled, on the
ground of such a proceeding being inconsiStent• with
the orders of the Admiralty, which were considered
as special orders; and to be literally obeyed. The
Letter relied on, in giving this construaiott to the
Admiralty orders, was that of the act Jury Iso3,
pointing out the doetinteuts then in the ciftioe as the
source from whence the information to be given on
the Report was to be
.derived ; and one of the' Com-
missioners states himself to have been confirmed in
thili opinion of the meaning of the Order, by the Let-
ter from the Admiralty of the 29th July already men-
tioned,. by Which the Navy Board.was diree-ted to
" examine Sir ilome Popham's accounts as Speedily
as possible, not however giving him a preference to
otheraccounts ;',' that is, not to take the ciamina-
.tion- of his, accounts :till their regular turn should
arrive, which . could not. happen till long after the
Navy Board must have reported . tinder. the :orders
which they heal received. Tile Commissioner who
made the motion for sending a. copy of the intended
Report to Sir Home pophani before it was finally
adopted, represents himseif to have Concurred with
' the Board in the opinion that.the .NaVy Board was
not authorised by the orders given by. the Admiralty
to refer to Sir Home Popham for explanation; but
states himself to have been wining- to do so. without.
' authority, from a sense of justice and propriety . '
Your Committee here think proper to observe,
that no intimation, official or otherwise, seems to
Admiralty', that tale;Conn ne: uigs'iorS of ihz---N-L,,..
thought themselves precluded by the order i of the
Admiralty from examining Sir _Home Popham ; but -
that it does not appear toyour CommitteethatAliere
was any difference of opinion in the Navy. Board as
to the constrUCtion- of the. order' they had received
from the Admiralty Board.

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THE SUN.

SOLENI QUIS DICZIta FAL3U-NI OIUDEAT ?

J., NJ) ON,

TUESDAY, JULY 16, 1805.

IT is very painful to us to be still unable to give
the Public any tidings respeaing the operations of
the gallant NEisoN against the of all
Nations, but no intelligence has arrived re-
speeling the important events of which we may
every moment (Ape& to hear. Our. Readers may
rely on having the first intelligence that arrives,
and with a confidence in that assurance we' trust
they will be Sltistied, Indeed it is all that can at pre-
sent be said, fur even those who deal
speculations, and wish to delude the Public, are ob-
liged to put a check upon their imaginations, and can-
not even invent reports that are likely to impose
upon the Public, notwithstanding .the general
eagerness of expe&ation, and the credulity- Which
usually attends 'orth East winds,' which
have prevailed for sorra tune, are unfavourable to
any arrivals from the West Indies, but we think it
very probable that some intelligence m ill reach this
Country M the course of the present week.

YpStertly' ITlOrtling PRINCE WILLIAM of, GLov-
c E STE. ft , ;ittended by Major 1-rooiNs, one Uf HiEi
koyal niginies,'s Aids de Pamp, ;It leis
.liptise. in Uppyr Gross enorcstreet, from LiverppoL

His Royal "Ugliness the Poo lon of SVALus., after
stoppiug about a_ week at Brighton, intends to pro-
cetql to Weymouth, min visit to his Royal Father.
Mr. WA LS/1. PORTER gave a grand dinner on $Oll-
- at hi., seat at Fulhapl, to His Royal klighttt.6"
the PE NCE of WA LE3, Local and L'ady, INlE4otiawn,
Hon. Mr. and Lady C. La mu, ti:c,----In'the evening
His Royal Highness and a selea 'party suppiA with
Lorditnd Lady iVll;4,}l.k.onse, at their
hail. _

Ile Earl of Cfl47llAm had vt: tertby a select din-
iler party, at his house in St, James's-iquare.