The Sun.
London, England, 1851-03-25 00:00:00

MARCH 25, 1851.

the future.—(" Oh !") He might remind the House that
the Right Hon. Member for the University of Oxford
(Mr. Gladstone), the Hon. and Learned Member for
Athlone (Mr. Keogh), the Hon. and Learned Member for
Windsor—(A laugh)—the Attorney-General for Ireland
(Laughter and cheers)—the Chief Secretary for Ireland,
the Hon. Member for the West Riding (Mr. Cobden),
the Hon. Member for Manchester and his colleague
(Mr. Bright and Mr. M. Gibson), had not yet spoken on
this question. There was also a Catholic Lord of the
Treasury, the Member for the county of Louth (Mr.
Bellew), whose sentiments he would be glad to hear.)
Last, though not least, ho might insinuate that it was
possible the Honourable, eloquent, and influential Mem-
ber for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli), who led a
powerful party, and who had not yet addressed the
House, might wish to do so. He had often heard that
Hon. Gentleman on other questions with much interest,
and he would like to draw him out upon this subject.—
(A laugh). The Noble Lord and his Right Hon. Col-
league (Sir G. Grey) had taken an account of the time
for which Irish Members had spoken, but were those
Hon. Members to be told that because they had occu-
pied eleven hours and a half in endeavouring to raise
a shield to protect themselves against this most unpre-
cedented act of oppression and insult, they were to be
driven to a division at half-past twelve in the morning?
He would again remind the Noble Lord, who was press.
ing this measure with such railway rapidity—(Laughter,
and ironical cries of " Hear,")—that out of 37 Catholic
Irish Members, and he believed five Catholic English
Members, only seven had yet spoken; and he would re-
mind him also that the Catholic Members were now upon
their trial, and were discussing the principles of a Bill
which they were determined to oppose by every consti-
tutional means in their power.
The House then divided; the numbers were—
For the adjournment of the debate ... 64
Against it . . 414
Majority against it ... ...-350
On our re-admission, we understood that
Mr. O'CONNELL moved the adjournment of the
House.
The motion was afterwards withdrawn.

Lord J. RUSSELL thought that Hon. Gentlemen
might be anxious to have the glory of conducting a fac-
tious opposition.—(Hear, hear.) But he saw no reason
why the House should indulge them in their desire.
The House had very clearly pronounced by 414 to 64
that, whatever might be the position or feeling of the
speakers, the listeners were quite satisfied.—(Loud
cheers.) Having, therefore, been perfectly satisfied
with the opinion of the House so expressed, and think-
ing it desirable that the debate should be brought to an
early termination, he was quite ready to assent to the
adjournment of the debate to this day (Tuesday).—
(Cries of " 12 o'clock.")
Mr. M. O'CONNELL understood the adjournment
would be to 5 o'clock.—(Loud cries of " 12 o'clock.")
Lord J. RUSSELL rose and moved that the debate
be adjourned to 12 o'clock.—(Great cheering.)
Mr. J. O'CONNELL moved that the debate be ad-
journed to 5 o'clock; which motion was seconded by Mr.
REYNOLDS.

Colonel RA WDON hoped the Honourable and Learned
Member for Limerick would not persist in his amend-
ment. This was the first great question which had been
discussed with respect to Roman Catholics since they
had been admitted to seats in that House by the Act of
1829. He could not be accused of anything like faction
when he announced his intention of voting for the second
reading; but it was a matter of great importance that
all the Roman Catholic Members should be able to lay
their opinions before the House. Bearing in mind the
remarkable expressions which had fallen from the Hon.
Member for Surrey—expressions .which, though apolo-
gised for, had not been retracted—it seemed to be but
just and courteoua for the House, as an assembly of
gentlemen, to give the Roman Catholic Members every
opportunity of stating their views.—(Cries of " Twelve
o'clock.") The Hon. Member for Limerick would have
it in his power to express his opinion, and would, he
hoped, agree to withdraw his amendment.
Mr. MOORE thought it of importance that the dis-
cussion of such a question as the present should not bear
the appearance of heat, haste, or hurry—(Oh, and
laughter)—and that it should proceed in the usual way.
He should support the amendment.
Mr. O'FLAHERTY remarked that it was now past
one o'clock, and Hon. Members could not meet at
twelve. The religion and country of those with whom
he agreed were at stake, and they must be heard.
Mr. LAWLESS disclaimed any factious opposition.
—(Oh, oh.) Sixty-four had voted for the adjournment,
of whom, he ventured to say, one-half intended to speak.
—(Laughter.) If only one were going to speak he ought
to have fair play. He defied any one to go to bed just
now and be hero in time to speak at twelve o'clock.—
(Laughter, cries of " Oh!" " Order," and " Withdraw.")
The House divided, when the numbers were:—
For twelve o'clock ... ... 306
For five o'clock
Majority ... —263

On re-entering the gallery, we found
Mr. KEOGH expressing a hope that the Noble Lord I
at the head of the Government would not insist upon
asking the House to meet at twelve o'clock to-morrow
(this day), seeing that it was now half-past one. The
Noble Lord had stated that the Roman Catholic Mem-
bers had occupied the greater part of the six nights
during which the debate had lasted; but he found, on
examination, that that was not the case, and that they
could not be said to have occupied an unreasonable por-
tion of the time of the House. He found, indeed, that
the gentlemen who were in favour of the Bill had taken
up more of their time than those who were against it;
and he must say, with regard to the Irish Members, that
they had not at all occupied the time of the House un-
reasonably. Many Members, including the Attorney-
General for Ireland—(llear)—had not yet spoken, and
it was important that their voices should be heard with
regard to this measure. It was but reasonable and fair
that the Bill should not pass in haste, or until they had
been favoured with the opinion of the Attorney-General
fur Ireland. Therefore, if it were competent for him to
do so, he would move that the debate be not adjourned
to twelve o'clock.—(No, no.) Then he would oppose
the motion.

Mr. J. O'CONNELL explained, that he had with-
drawn his motion for the adjournment of the House
under the beliet that the House would meet at the usual
hour. The Noble Lord had said, that if he (Mr. J.
O'Connell) and, his .brother—[Order and laughter.
Lord J. RUSSELL—" The Hon. Member for Dublin'l
felt any anxiety to be factious, he would afford them an
opportunity of being so.—(Laughter.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said his Hon. Friend did not
quite understand him. He (Lord J. Russell) understood
the Hon. Member for Dublin to say, that unless the de-
bate were adjourned he intended to make a factious op-
position. He (Lord J. Russell) did not think the Hon.
Member need have made use of that remark, as he might
have said that he would go on opposing the continuation
of the debate. As it bad been already agreed that the
debate should be adjourned, he only wished that it should
really and in fact go on this day. If, therefore, it were
distinctly understood that the debate should be fixed for
five o'clock this day ho would not any longer persist in
his motion.—(Hear, hear.)
It was then decided that the debate should be resumed
at five o'clock this day.
DESIGNS ACT EXTENSION BILL.

O❑ the ATTORNEY-GENERAL moving that this
Bill be reed a second time,
Colonel SIBTHORP opposed it, us being a measure
to benefit foreigners at the expense of Englishmen.
Mr. NEWDEGATE asked whether the designs of
Englishmen would be protected as well as those of
foreigners, and also whether foreign Governments would
extend the same protection to the invention& of English-
men as it was proposed to give to the inventions of
foreigners in this country?
Mr. LABOUCHERE said protection would be equally
given whether the inventions were those of Englishmen
or of foreigners, but, of course, it would be impossible
for the English Parliament to give protection to Eng-
lish exhibitors abroad.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL observed, all that
could be done was to give protection in this country,
exactly in the same manner as the patent laws now
operated. No man who took out a patent here could
protect himself against having his invention pirated
abroad.
The Bill was road a second time, and ordered to be
committed on Wednesday.

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The House then adjourned, at Two o'clock, till Four
o'clock this day.

COWES, ISLE OF WIGHT.
FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.)
COWES, MARCH 24.—Her Majesty, Prince Albert, the
Prince of Wales, and the Princessßoyal, attended divine
service at the parish church of Whippingham yesterday,
attended by the Marchioness of Douro and the Hon.
Amelia Murray. Several of the officers of the American
frigate St. Lawrence, anticipating the royal visit, wero
at Whippingham.
THE PUBLIC HEALTH ACT.—It is not generally
known that with this Act others are also annexed on
petition; it has just been extended to the town of West
Cowes, and with it the inhabitants have had incorpo-
rated the beat clauses is their old local Act, 56 of Geo.
111., and 49 clauses of the Towns Police Clauses' Act,
1847, and 25 sections of the Towns Improvement Clauses,
1847, which has given great satisfaction. The attempt
made by some officials in Newport to tack the Mayor
and part of their town council on to our local board has
signally failed, the inhabitants having,. as one man, de-
clared that they would sooner be without the Public
Health Act than have any foreign interference in their
local affairs.
THE WEATHER.—We have had a week of wind and
rain; on Saturday the mercury fell to 28•0. Field-
work is quite at a stand, nothing can be done in plough-
ing, sowing, or planting.

COURT CIRCULAR.
OSBORNE, MONDAY.

Her Majesty and his Royal Highness took their usual
early walk this morning.
His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, the Princess
Royal, and the younger branches of the Royal Family,
walked and rode in Osborne Park.
There was no addition to the royal dinner party yes-
terday.

A deputation from New Zealand House, headed by Mr .
Aglionby and Mr. Abel Smith, and attended by Mr. Har-
rington, the Secretary, had an interview with Earl Grey
yesterday, at the Colonial-office.
The Bishop of London had an interview with Sir George
Grey, at the Home-office, yesterday.
Mr. John Wood, Chairman of the Board of Inland Re-
venue, had an interview with the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer yesterday, at his official residence, in Downing-street.
Mr. Montgomery Martin had an interview with Earl Grey
yesterday, at the Colonial-office.
The Marquis of Lansdowne left town on Sunday
morning,
for his seat, Bowood Park, Wilts.
Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-office,
from the Governor of the CanaCas, and the Governors of the
other North American Colonies.