The Sun.
London, England, 1851-02-12 00:00:00

e.g. clals who are the owners aed occupiers of land.-C.lear.)
triter with us into a fair discussion. e rigg;,st those re.fll.C.-
likg •
f; `uttleolnproiais,s of burdens, anal those mutual concilia-
"n% wbith tee interests of all classes demand, and which,
hicehs,
unless they are consonant w the interests of all c c'.s.
to
We do not wish to authorise. I am prep ired to enter h
that discussion now, if indeed I have not already too long cc-
e'Pled the attention of the House. I am prepared to enter
iinto it on the clear understanding that in anything I "1--ie
mat
eaY that which I think most advantageous
secure
as
ollttnn, cal good -the only object of which will be, e
‘,.uca justice for all parties as is possible in antaunsciceiitso-
iiipet.Y--(llear, hear.) lam prepared to express, without
t;st.t4tl"n, tuy opinion, that it would be most dangerous to
/ beilOto._ naunity that you should accord those. claims which
h- I";es in a spirit of severe justice, the agricultural interest.
bas a right to prefer.-( Hear, hear.)that in a
vaotintry like
this, however we adjust Itaxkautoilovn,
ihowever
t
ielli°4•l we may be to consult the interests of all a
weilich the
grellai!possible to come to any arrangementhen
rand. Several
"'amount of burden wr'i not fall upon t
Ittltig..aestions have been made in this House for the. relief of the
stance Which I will briefly allude to. I will, in the first in.
to;nee, take the two remedies, somewhat vague in their na-
ietteValinh have been suggested by the Gentlemen of the
leo, nester school. They have always laid it down as a
mare principle that what was wanted for
Employ more
was
labour labour and more capital.-(Hear.) more
" EmP
oywill be
tar.nr laid more capital," said they, •• and.
le-4,.stincessfully to compete with the foreignYourodacer."
or. A' let.rne remind the House that during theP last foural,e
bi ,Le Years, when the owners and occupiers of land h.
theer.'"ll e‘lvised to employ more labour and more capittale,
diati eZieted on the statute-book two codes of law,he..
laho °Peration of which was to restrict the employment_art. h ur and to check the distribution of capital.- (He ,
ear.) a E
gar a,„ Ploy more labour," you say; but. before yon
reeoet that advice, why did you
.no.t deal with the settle-
core,' '---(liear, hear.) The Minister who repealed the
oottersai.nWs felt the necessity of of meeting the question. W. e
prope ltsd that there is a measure upon the subject now in
have ireeon, but if the measure were necsessary it should
were repealed.
(near, het introduced before the corn-laws
We have also been told to employ more
tedheiearni;
,but. M the year 1844 you passed a law.
chi
rattioaLn°YMent of capital by the channels wh corn-,
410.1 with the cultivation of the soil. - Hear
hemge' rile Bill of 1844 effectually prevented the farmerthat
ttie
g accommodation from his banker in order d
the
sidest extend his capital. In the year 1848 we called coaan
thatch "II of the House to this law. We showed you
epilee. e Principles upon which this law were founded wereWspereetirrg“ th teus' We showed"
you that the opinions entertained
ee
issue, " redundancy," and " depreciationn,-
vertihk.`,°43' erroneous, and not consistent with ear reeeaulldcoda
Iltoiwo Peter currency._( Hear, hear.)
gißviuntg
firiaerkleatoll went about the country we.
evice to the
°Yil whi„},n(l You told them that the great remedy for the
While in ''''' °PPreased them was the employment of capital,
tahot Mockery you dis-
passed a law which curtailed the
Nher..°ll of capital in those very counties and districts
Yots o' i'''' WaS most wanted. -(Hear, hear.) In my opinion coot* llght to have prepared for the great change, and the
the ..1:111.tot reform, the repeal of the corn-laws, by placing
Yeer 11,,,,Intatliral classes in a just relation with. respe,ctdeto-
4rabl -.llcial, banking, and industrial laws. It is 3
yoltf Fable that
fritetr.??Ot that which
You should bring capital to the land;ver but
you have laws of partnership,
erships
has crate that object The question of limited partn . the Zen already under the consideration of the House, and, largelu as adopted in the colonies has been opposed by
ear that if
(nte One and approved of by Lord Ashburton.. It is kir tee
i as re-
Yeu put the cultivators of the soil upon
bat ems of com
be
eof limited partnersh p.
thaa P i ion, a C. 9.9 _ littetart:`U woald be beneficial.(Hear, hear.) But did you
delWe. I.°
40 it?-(Hear, hear.) Year after year you are
tad otrieung.opinions upon the prospects and fate of the owners
ply.tlhbject?
to piers °fiend but have you once given consideration
I needreu noth
tforward dwell but for a moment upon the
tee from ereW for the relief of the
rk, 'r°,lll ocbrdg You have had a project brought
bear the nouse of Lords for a national rate.-( Hear,
art) There is no doubt that the subject is one of the
oortdaTeet importance and has had public approbation
°tauter- ``) it; but have the Ministry ever considered it,
/ge it the subject of a Cabinet Council ?-( 1.. )
bpt tn.t going to give an opinion specifically in favoura,. ortthit,
!)f the ls a matter of such importance, that I think it worthy
.y
Jeetioligravest consideration. There are no doubt. great oh. as th. 6to a national rate, but there is no objection so great.ts Prepo-ae.norrnous injustice, of the land paying more than i
'AY "4°ll of the ti hear.) Many of the
Action poor-rate.- ( ear,
Nis 1, •Ito a national rate might be met with effect, but
eI
objeeve Permitted to make one observation-that there is nd
lats '"
I° a national rate so great as making a limite
th,tillAY for the others. It is unnecessary for me to speak of
I, tletieLle re Which I brought before the House last year, for
14.4 ti` toe opinion of the House was decidedly is favour of
iNt-ear') It was not only recommended by sound policy,
, Was'''riot inconsistent with the most selfish legislation.
NI grantedpon that occasion, if the relief which I proposed
Vre7;i--and that relieFwould have taken 2,000,00
ratibiectal)!°PertY, and 1,500,0001. off our distressed fellow,- 'tine ;in Ireland—by drawing on the consolidated
lolie:CederY little relief would be given, because the con-
-1.4341351 rtejievfeaand Was contributed . by those who were
chap filo a. I was aware of this , but it is the best course
of fiber of the Opposition, when suggesting the remis-
t,,ite.,,tt49t,. then, to be guided by general principles of jusd-
Laee ti` best Way for all classes to be included; an
letee,°Bl Who May be called upon to pay too much can re-
tattgekthat the burden is too great for them to bear. Other
,tllehill°ll° have also been made, by which a peculiar class
;O,`e hti„.,"o reedf from a peculiar burden without increasing
s teen the commuuity • and it was proposed to supply
Ltkaeiene nY in the revenue by a fixed. duty on tipcorn.-
Nes I have no objection to a discussion upon the
11
Lable t Of a fixed duty on corn, because my views area
e*lletti 11° .he misrepresented. I say, as far a I am e
h'lnt, o„e ~,'ePreseriting an agricultural community, that w
1,-"lee--""ng mor -11 justice. We cannot admit for a
~`lnscitit,that a axedet that
yis
.in favour of the agricul- ' Neat, earest. It is a financial and political arrange-
Ntlear" we are bound as ministers and statesmen to
'atih ' Whether -as a whole, it will make the best bar-
mmunity. he o e
tar
fc'rotralle co ' • T Nbl Lord at the head of
to ker. .tent got up the other night, and. with a sorrow-
i'ata kon otecoduennteenance-as if he admitted that some•
gapTiolelght to
for thy landed interest-shrugged
;11,64.41,14re and said What can I do? I don't know that
(lie far,-1 would do any good for the farmer."-(llear.) But
“:„.ear.rrlvdo not want a 55., or Bs., or 10s. fixed duty. -r
t'lo-7,Pesfoa• °,linay ask them to join in any settlement C.:.
in,Q .f which like all compositions, will only be paid
, wo tr e who
name of the
' 1-Pt 1' receive it, to the extent of one-half, and
es-Itietilea„B,enee the matter with you, but in the .
'asi
moil interest I positively protest against its. being
144
4er-s.
a .fi - remedy for the owners and occupiers of
bret:.l. AnarrPneierne Ztlefor- a fixed duty has already been
!)1 Ria7i,.t befor:
a Right Honourable Friend
111 tlt,,'°. t ;atone Rtfe)uatse obccyasion he stated that it was
eolith; ature of things that the producer of foreign
_ tilts rolel would endeavour to adjust his prices to
.those of
;tkke- jlithrL in order that the British speculator might no
sliced 4 t-..
I'r°Rt. Just at that particular period circunne
for it
liipeata°taCnered which served to illustrate the theory,
the in the months of June and February, 1848,
I° tieC no duty on foreign corn, and that in March and
Ltvtaarter-gentlet months there was a duty of 7s, or Bs. pere
eru, 1 butthe imports and prices remained the same. r.lh 711 3114riee in January and February was 50s. 2d., and
'4l. klreh to December with the duty added, it w9ass, d (wt."( Hear, hear, a
a When the duty I„egOtiola-W as Is., the price remained the same. These are
.`i. ekgra tx_Pon whic any Hon. Gentleman. is at liberty
1 nlotere,,an opinion ; and if I give mine,
theit is that
helna toy., fixed duty does not raise
toteitarer relief ?-- no price.
•re f 66tne times " Why do the farmers come
'other class of traders make
rliP'llethe. aPPlicatious.' But I would ask, in reply,
tlere‘i any other description of property or industry is in-
ki Ite,„.lv._,lth by the House of Coolmons.,-(Hear, hear.)
os - ii, wnelY to be pro os:d by any-stateiman in this
yttle., at the same see te P
kt: beep, applieci t _B. rn of legislation which has for
a . applied to 0 agriculture, should henceforward be
r 4. .t the rage, the freeze,
the Manufactures, words would be powerless to
the
tilNers of the Mancheet-e; the indignation, by which.
.0:1([1ear, hear.) it
14,,ortnity with the first pri
school would forthwith be am-
were to be proposed oaed that, in
he1.,4,n1e article of nciples of justice an of fair deal-
th"l`°tWard be b. general use in manufactures should
proa_
e.. su jected to the same laws which regulated
eDeti,l/4,4: tion and sale of tobacco and of malt, what shoals
terttoe`: petitions would flow into this House-with that eloquent
Ikea trances would the country brooXl Would be delivered resound-.what vehement
14 tv t f°rward at ... ered-.--what motions would be
I Leel`yerhere
estaPbtilibsteeretiyes, anhdewhatalnedagulaes would
ughter.)
telivrti;f;ea. heard front those whoa are animated by no very
ZIA thtee, !oge towards the agricultural interests the re-
ihnear,e,
oil ia singular that in a Rouse composed in so large
hers;l(l be so h,anded Proprietors, the current of legislation
IDeelo- much against land. The observation is, no doubt,
1111 eo 4,20, bat it is likewise exceedingly superficial. It
ae°r°l,,Part"koetli._°l that, owing to various circumstances, and
la:l:wage, .--`fY to the territorial constitution of this as-
to tilt. for a ft„,verY considerable proportion of its Members has
tibli-`l°h --"g thne owners or occupiers of land ; but owing
e 111?I'Y goVer
tat,
.apoit,a_ ,
of by. party, to which so much of the
St Ltiltot_a no of the public freedom of this country is to
hIYa to, those owners and occupiers of land have al-
:PtOteep.74 divided into two hostile camps. There. was,
lite.-1-, (lietinet it '' welch commercial party at all times in this
I‘ e00,h,,• was recruited and invigorated by the. accession
„_etiy. --verabl •of handed proprietors, who
-oto - teptia 0 proportion
the interests of
oettaereceed their anxiety to support .
talists
4 ',nu, The merchants, manufacturers, and capi .
bat 6.. (I look
nr„l.•lebas.
heyalways.b el ieyed that such
bias inu favour of trade,
Is „+veree, 14' ri.tt had a decided
three
(xi ,7"0 navigation, and that the fact was really so
otte "Y the number of enactments-not always very
I tita 8-son th •
the , tote., here subjects, which have
been placed upon
arn
Ab„°4lll4 uook by the Ministers in question. I forew .
bittiehi7res and I forewarn this House, that the time is
aks%?le to g Wfieri the agricultural interest will no longer
tkatte , eta et
the strain which is put upon its energy
:Ink e4Pital h
. lation And
dio not
at y your present system of legis .
one
TheyVriiL. eit is the owners and occupiers of land a
drub` you if you continue in your infatuated policy.
them thcllk. qint will ba sacrificed, and they will be the first
Of „It fate....t ,°,,ther interests also, be assured of it, will share
he, to ,kktlear, hear.) Consider the question, I entreat
tiat vot ;n`"e Spirit of equity. I do not ask you to record
lej,,, itta favour of any specific measure. It is not my
kiihm. teekTa independent private Member, to propose any
oph'ieteriark_re•••-•(Heat., bear, and ironical cheers from the
1)!- '4lft "endlea.) The . t. f the Hon. Members
ool:p, remind
..._•o.aminatrecauhpeionso
1 sentiment in the writings
it ketr-len°.!trloi.ia ' I
~.. author, who has said that " Grace is beauty
tril„th gC,ktiear.) Sir, justice is truth in action.-Hear.)
`n t --u'd la • - •• • but to reduce
ee4e, o tteti,, . ter animate an opposition ,
Vet„' kohl t,"11,,1a the office of a Minister; and that office I
94:,111. %eta
a:al-Noble Lord at the head of her Majesty's Go-
a -go -lk;hee ). I I maintained that this
l II the
M. have a ways
ILdth
Peeerter-orib to be adjusted by the
Ministerby who, from his
1, se feeli tloo, can never be supposed to look with ad-
a3Y, / ange on the lof E 1 d -(Hear, hear.) Again
ith tio,net „. land England.-(Hear, an •
Petabohai , unk it was incumbent on me, or on those
thie 'Lie to he the honour to act, to bring forward any
tip, tfotoirsnro on this subject, but I have a right to ask
lete---(lloar`u Jonse to a Specific cmclusion on the ques-
t° e- Y-yet; "ear) I have a right to aek you to de-
tot,-ohietier
.rtote that it is the duty of the Government
4'6 Itatt' to lee
measures'. I have thus briefly sketched.
tote° Gnat., indoPt. theta if they find it impossible to
doti°lto an,. :4i liable to objection. Ido not ask your o
tioline-iu,-1, . to about distinctive duties or countervailing
tii, kih %Zit relive burdens of taxation- about
These,
to laws
Settlement, or of partnership.
lo
~..end for isq.u.estns of the highest importance. What 1,
to reale,eisaloo ',,n_at_the House and the country are already
the,n;oer it
.'e.olthaecient information on. all these. subjects
deer, sad 4aesit IA to legislate in a deliberate spirit upon
tio,s7a eta the M. call upon this House to-night to do, is to
pigtil...or/ear
,_ inisterrahall act with respect to these ques-
Ode,,,_° row,nar.) gear after year, the Chief Minister
appered a t*"011 Wnen peaking upon these subjects, has
tee, 'tad to 2 a manner, and a temper, which always
°f I:ltiiled thetuP •to .imply that in his inward heart he
d ill. this
.!_oinatme to which the owners and occupiers
justice
are subjected. I ask the House now