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London, England, 1805-02-02 00:00:00

WAR WITH SPAIN.

Lord Rewtese u air-mtreed, that the House should
adjourn till to-ttnorrow (this day),
The Earl of D "(RN LEY said, he did not the to
oppose the Motion of the Noble Lord, as he was
happy in every opportunity of seeing their Lordships
in their places, although he could not help observing,
that when a otion of a similar nature was made
last Session on this side of the House, it was opposed
very warmly by the Noble Lords on the other side.
He understood that an Adjournment was proposed
for to-morrow, in order that the additional Papers
respeaing Spain might then be laid on the Table.
He could not but suppose that Ministers laid before
the House complete information, in the first ia.
stance, as to this subjtet ; and, therefore, he thought
it strange that so much time should be occupied in
preparing further information, and that the House
should meet on Saturday for the purpose of receiving
it. He found, however, that the same proceeding
had taken place in the other House ; and fie could
not help remarking, that the present Government
seemed to have adopted a system of copying ser.
vilely, in that House, the mode of proceeding in the
other House, a system which he, and his Noble
Friend near him (Lord Gitrtersruta), were deter-
mined to Oppose.
Lord MULG R AVE said, that,in the first instance,
he had certainly laid before the House all the infora
mation which he then considered to be oCeessary; rea
l;irive to the War with Spain.
,He afterwards, how-
ever, found, that more Papers were deemed requisite
fur the discussion ; and being anxious, that, on a
subjeel of such moment and importance, the House
and the Country shoeld be in possession öt the fullest
information, and that if any one could say there was
any thing wanting, that it should be supplied, he did
not hesitate, therefore, to move for the' production
of such Papers as were deemed necessary,' 'Every
possible expedition had been used to prepare those
Papers, and he was not aware that it would have
taken up so much time ; bet it was fnund that
they could not be got ready before to-morrow (this
day), as they were very voluminon9, and extended
to severity printed pagea, It waa now, for the
first tiinr., .that he heard, with considerable stir.
prize, an objection made to the granting the House
further information, and that he heard the Noble
Lord oppose the Motion, the tendency of which was
to put the House in possession of that information
at the earliest opportunity, .It scented, however,
it tees
.objaled, that the mode of proceeding' put.
sued by the other House was. servilely copied in
this ; he could not conceive there could be any fair
objeelion to put tiog the HOuse in possession of that
information, which was ,to be' had before the other
on the same sultjeet, and he was much surprized that
such an objetlion ':,!could have been made. It re.
muined, however, fur Noble Lords to consider,
whether they would oppose the Motion made by his
Noble. Friend, for adjourning till to-Morrow, in
order that the Papers might be laid upon the Table
as early ;13 po43ible.
The ,Earl o 4 Day. ter aY, in explanation, ob-
served, Om. he had said 'he did not intend to oppose
the Motion.
Adjourned at five o'clock till to-morrow (this day)

'IIOU4'E OF COMMONS,

FRIDAY, FEU. 1,

Mr. BouvElti R moved, that A new Writ should
be issued for the Eledion of a Member for the
139roughl of Dysart,' Luria bland, Kirkaldy, and
Kinghorn, in tht.. room of Sir James Sinclair Er..
skine, now Earl of Rosslyn, calked to the IL:use of
Peers .—Orde red.

Mr. STultoss Douiu moved, that new Writs
should be igsued for Members• to serve for the fol.
lowing places :—For the Borough of Newark, Not,
tinghamshire, in the room of Sir Thomas Manners
Sutton, who had accepted the Office of one of the
Barons 'of the Exchequer;
•for the Borough of Tot.,
nest, in the room of Vicarey Gibbs, Esq. who had
accepted the Office of Solicitor. General ; and for the
Borough of St. Michael'i, in Cornwall, in the
loom of Mr. Dallas, who had accepted the place
of Chief justice of Chester.
Mr. BLACKFORD brought in a•Bill to enable the
Proprietors of the Manchester Cartel to raise Ma-
lley to complete the same.--Read a first, and or.
detect to he read a second time to.rnorrow,
Mr. AL EXANDIR brought up the Report of the
Pension and Matt Duty Bills.—Ordered to be lead
a third time to.morrow.

The Resolutions of the Committee on the, Qua.
rantine Duty were read, approved, and a Bill or.
dered Accordingly.
The Irish Office Indemnity Bill was read a' ae.
cond time, and ordered to be comolitte4 on Mori.
day.

J
WAYS AND MEANS.
On the Motion of the ettArrcau.ol of" the Ex.
ensgul it, the House resolved itself into Qom.
mime tai Ways and Means.
The SesAxatt having left the Chair,
The CHANceLt.oit. of the EXCHIQUIR ob.
served, tbar be would take the earliesuopportunity
of bringing forward .the Ways and Means of this
year. In the mean tune, however, he moved, that
three millions should be raised by Loan on Exche.
quer Bills. This Motion was agreed to, and the
Reioiution ordered to be reported to the House.—
Report to be received to.morrow.

LOYALTY LOAN.
The CHANCIILLoR or the EXCliNtalt. gave
notice, that on Monday' next he would movc lona
Resolutions relative to the Loyalty Loan.

Lori AI
ARS HAM

observed, that on a farrier
occasion he had stated the 'mode in which he meant
to bring forward the proceedings reopening the
Sheriff's Rawlins and Cox. He intended that wit.
*leases should have been called to the Btr to sub.
stantiate the charges against them. He now be-
lieved that no such examination would be required.
The evidence as it was taken before the Committee,
he thought, would be sufficient ; and he was, in some
measure, authorized io say, that the parties them.
selves did not with for any other. He understood,
from a conversation which he had with the Counsel
of the Sheriff's, that they did not mean to prudoce
exculpatory evidence. This, however, he could
not pledge himself for, as he had no positive as.
nuance on the subjen; however, in order to allow
them time to make up their minds, 'he would post-
pone the Motions which he intended to have made
to.day till Tuesday next. He trusted that this
would make no material difference to the House.
Mr. FOX did not by any means intend to make
any objection to the motion of the Noble Lord. He
rose merely for the purpose of expressing, in two
words, his opinion of the evidence that was intended
to be adduced on this occasion. He conceived that
when a penal proceeding was instituted by the
House against any individual, or set of individuals,
and when it was called upon to sit in a judicial ca.
pacityilt ought to be directed by evidence beard
at its own bar, and not by evidence transmitted
from another place. He did not wish that this
should be applied to the present case, particularly if
the parties concerned were not inclined that
dence should be heard ; that was another matter.
There might be no occasion to call any evidence
that should affect the accused persons. . But there
was one word which he wished to say respecting
something which had fallen from the NO;ble Loid.
It had occurred to hien at the moment. It wis said
that the parties themselves did not intend to call
any evidence. Whether they did or titic-re.- was
sure he did not know. But in case any thin should..
occur which might put it in the power of the
Sheriff's to prOdtiCe some exculpatory evidence,
which they had-not hitherto been enabled to find,
he hoped that this would -not be understood to be,
styerseded ; because such evidence, heard at lite Bar,
might have great .weight, with the House in direet.
iog.their decision. All he wished, therefore, was
that this matter should in completely open.
The SPbetttlilt then ordered the Order of the
Day to be read, and
Lord 'IVIARSHAIA moved, thatit should be fixed'
for. Tuesday.
The question being put,

Lord 111,IRS11/111f stated, that he certainly 'had
understood that the Sheriffs had intended to call evi:
dente respeding a point not included in the evidence
before the Committee. He now, however, was in.
formed that rhey meant to call no evidence. It was
therefore to prevent their being taken by surprise,
to allow them time to make up their minds on this
head, and to give the Haute an opportunity of con.
suiting precedents, that ite moved fur the Order
being postponed,
Mr. Fox explained.

• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER ob.
served, that the House had and ought to have the
power of governing its own proceedings. He did
nor at all agree .to the. principle started by the
Honourable Gentleman on the other side ( me. Fox)
in its full extent, that in a penal case the House was
bound to hear evidence at its own Bar in the event
of such being offered. The constant pradice of the
House, previous to the year 1770, and before the
passing of the Grenville Bill, t'as, to decide in such
cases on the evidence given before a Seleet COM.
mittee. He did not say that the House might not
at otherwise. He only said, that this was the
mode of proceeding formerly, anti during the time when the evidence was given before persons who
might :aridly be called a Seled Committee of the
House. Credit was then always given to such cvi.
Bence. Time only alteration made by the Grenville
Bill was, that instead of a Seta} Committee, the
witnesses were examined before persons who them.
selves aeted upon oath, and who received evidence
on oath. Surely then the House would not give less
credit to evidence taken-on oath, than it formerly
did to evidence not bound by such an obligation. At'
the same time he admitted, that sometimes of late
a contrary pradice had Prevailed, as io the case of
Shoreham, and one that had occurred the ocher day,
that of Liskeard, In the Case of Cricklade, some
discussion had arisen on this point. It was put off
from day to day, and no decision was ultimately
given. This was the outline of the precedepts. He
did not wish to enter now upon the discussion; but
merely stated his opinion, that in consistency with.
a proper regard to its own privileges, the House could
not now assume to Itself less power than it did in
former times. The Members would turn the sub.
jed in their minds, not only with a view to the
present question'," but with a view to what was of
infinitely greater importance, the general pradice of
the House.

Mr. FRANCIS thought,. that evidence ought, in
every, judicial praceeding, to be heard before the
judges. This would 14 a great. satisfattion to the
House ; and he was at present inclined to think
that entletnen could. not, in, honour and •justice,
decide upon a Venal case without hearing evidence
at the-Bar. He hoped, therefore, tharbefore Tues.
day,
.the. House would deeply refl-Et upon a question
which, independent of the present case, was in it.'
self of so much importance.
The Order of the Day was then postponed till
Tuesday
,next.

DEFENCE OF THE COUNTRY.
Mr. WINURAM asked, when the Papers for
which he bbd moved would be laid before the.
Home ?
The SECIRTARY at WAR replied, that he
did not know exadly, but that he would inquire,
40 that due notice would be given to the Right
Honourable Gentleman before they were brought
fprward.

SPANISH PAPERS.
The tRANICILLOR E)f. the "lt:xcitaQuita. gave
nmice, that tomorrow the Spaot3L Papers moved
for by Mr. GRAY would be delivered, preparatory
to their discusbinn Thursday. 'Adjourned.

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THE SUN.

SOLEM QUIS ALCM FALSUM AIJOSAI ?

L 0 N D 0 N,

EATUR.D4tY, FEBRUARY a, 18*

of the intended
On the subjed of the supposed prevalent re!
'resignation of Mr. NTT,
MELvi4L,E, &c. we think it only necessary WI.
chat they have not the 41, 'GUTS sT fritibligl it'
ll'
„n
truth, These reports have been so often ..relihr,
in one particular quarter* char we thought it rig
owe to mention and contradift them. We sbaljir
elp
again :. if they are meant as pet, they Wt.
stale ; if as hint:, we will answer for their notkoil
attended to 1 13

t 1:o
t 1/1 fe RuE seems general disposition to give credt:
in the French Papers, ,t0r,„11"
Imperial fliihusr Prince josePH is to 6e,e171'
to the Throne of Lombardy ; but the tuctitttslw
prompt toir.kr",ikTe to this neve ad of agll4,i
•i,
are not perhaps generally known. It was the;°r"..
wish of BaitaPAR.TF, from the moment that
infested, 'as First Consul, with the priverUlol43°
ing' his Successor, to nominate his Brother
wNit:i:6d:lilioet.ta:l3daßrnAroitletdßbt:ettdiVlNo°:eld:u'rn.bietyllittw:uhNt .o4m:O4mhaeingE;satola?;ll:;B:l:tiftl:'
rupture With Josapu BONAPARTE, Who behja 6111:6
than Louts; had of course a right to
in the. Successlon. When BONAPAaTa usurped tk'
04:
title of Emperor, it was necessary that the 1 .•In
Succession should be pointed out • and 81 JP$ll,6-
had no Children, it was not thought fleet'
004
offend him, by placing biro after .his young" c`''titer ; because it was most probable, that 1011$
to
cease the Throne would descend to the s°llto
Louts by Mane. BEAUHARNOIS, which was
great objen of BoNAP4RTE and the Imperial 100
PH!N E. But the pregnancy of the Wife of I°5E%
which has recently been announced,
has fruetrated
whole of this Plan, because it very much weakeri4:l
chance of the issue ofLouts succeeding to theThre:
In order, however, to accomplish his favoutite °Poi
jest, BONAPARTE has 'proposed to joseru to ere°
him King of Lombardy, provided he will I{l4°lllo-
bit right of succession to the Throne
.of Ftiince
his Brother Lours. To this proposal jo!li/I
..,
(either preferring immediate power to a remoter':
spe“ uf succession, or fearing to irritate the Ustailtis
has acceded ; and he will, we have no doubt, I
proclaimed King of Lombardy with all due scir
pity; We cannot close this article without g"
-pressing an indignation at seeing an upstart UttliP°
. not only in possession of so large a portion of Eutqt:
but disposing of it, like psivate property, o°6
his relations. We entertain great hopes that; ;
41)44 which is now happily manifesting itself
'Europe," and the detestation 'which the M ofO
feel towards their tyrant, wiii not'lo/
frustrate this impudent plan, of the .C 66,
to secure the sisticesslon of the Crown of PO,
tdhii'tietifiy, but even dfstutf,), his. usorps,t,--
fr
that Crown, if it does not finally vest it in. IJto
•
ovvner.''. :" • • •

insmi.lllllllllllll.o.
, • thf.
Wa yesterday.stopped the Press to 10' i,
French Squadron at Rochefort 'had 'esiscoad'lM
gilancrrof our Blockade.'" We Wigs since
918 Squadron, contist'ing of six sail of the LiriP/r)b'
two 'frigates, put to sea on the rith
an intention, as is Stipposctici)f getting, into Bre;
They were wen on the..S-"ith,by one-'of our 0111141
standing to the northward, at which period thePri
peered to'havestistained tn
much'daage' in their mlgtd:
sails,' and yards. They were again Accts.& the 140/
Atnerican VeSsel off the Penrnarks, whiel
as
is e9njeftured they Were unable AO weather 0
they hove about and stood to the southward' nn
Frenc!? Squadron had not got back to Roc*"
the 28th, and' it, is, now supposed to have goliciill 0
I GO
L'Osisinti or the Passage between the Isle 0:
or
and 'that Port, in consequence of which we have °reit
hope that A good account will sown be given °I 11'
by sutne of our Squaarons.

It is with very great' concern that we ifif°r°l;"o
Publit of the death of Captain Jeavti, Who utl:lt
tunately was drowned in passing in a boat 11°11'
Dannamt to the San Josef, by the upsetting um'
boat. 'One Seaman was drowned with this:-ti'ie
lamented Officer. Captain CAMP B PL,L was 'flop
boat with htm, but fortunately escaped.--C4).
it
Jartsvis was an excellent Officer, and a most stal''),
charfiger in private life, He 4:2 yed the

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Fligati with 4istihittlisited
merit, anti *as highly respeaed and beloved by
an the Officers and Men who ever were under his
eotomand. He was, we understand, the Nephew and
Heir to the titles and honours of Earl ST.Vltic elfTe

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TRH morning two Hamburgh Mail: arrived.
The following are the most material &snit:les of in.
telligenee which they bring :
VI it NwA, Jim a.--To.day arrived a. Courier
from our Ambassador at
who Paris 'to the Minister of
State, • immediately after disp itched a Courier
to the Court of Berlin. The' subjed of the dis.
latches of these Couriers is said to be the Affairs of
ItalY• A 'French Courier has likewise arrived here
horn Paria. ,
JAN. 16.---It it said that Marshal LIKUNE has
left Constantinvle ; this- report, however, as yet
requires confirmation.
The States of BThemia have granted 400,000
florins for the purchase of corn.
FRANILIFOILT, JAN. 7.—Accounts from the
Lower Rhine state the number of troops that are
attached from the Army of the Coast, and drawn
towards Italy, at 40,000 men.
iiThey Write from Paris, that the POP!, in case of
itsin changes in Italy, will fix his seat at Corn.:
pitglle4
tette% from Paris say, that the projeded Eke.
twal
"'tan between the Eldior ARCH _CRAW.
ket.t.ot h;nd the Eleet-°" of HE"'
and VVIITEm"
gala, hes been communicated likewise
to the En.
S'eYe kohl the Etedoral Courts of'SAxote, BAVA.
And LOIN, for their accession, but that this
1141'fibula peat difficulties.
ilAns Of MAINff, JAN. Cheva.
It Vellectrissi, who has been set at liberty on
iPPlianiolt of the POPE, passed through Mu.
k
--;:°4 the Oth instant, on his way to Russia.
and
.4b140 Pi** ;a•-. Six Ships of the Line,
'Nur carrying 48.puuni dere, have been
fit et' rth.
b I --"6 Mete to prOlett the entrance of the har.
CV against the English.
AIICILONAI DIG. 22.—1 n consequence of the
setting
its Of bad weather, the Squadron of Ada-dial
111410 a is no longer in sight. That crui zing before
Cacti 3:3 according to advices 'received to.day, has
already
another. Ship of War, which h the sixth
taken by the English.

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IP i ate 1.
v... nappy to say the Qv r EN was much better
41;:teedrdats,.At two
MAJESTY.
the Pturre e of WALES
yt 4
sterday, about three o'clock. Hrs MAJESTY
Mired at the Queen's House from Kew,
Lete on TusdaY evening Mr. WACSTAFFE, the
yi'•it3enger, left town on his way to Si. Petershurgns
..`" dispatches to Lord G. L. GOWER,' our Mini. • 4ter at that Court.
hyllel4 MAJESTY'S Frigate the Doris, commanded
!Capt. CAMPBELL has onfattunately struck on
'ht'ken rock in.Quiberain Bay. The vessel is lost,
putathe crew have happily escaped.
• ii• ' verY numerous and respectable meeting of the
• resholders of Hertfordshire, resident in London,
1^ the interest of Mr. BAKER' was held this day at
11,°,7P1',1 the Crown and Anchor, when a most aCtive
'1: :131T'ited canvass wastagreed upon, and several
4l.tetotons were passed calculated to insure that
%Nieman's eleition for the County.
, 14,1! Yee), handsome and general support which
Free —ltlt has experienced in his Canvass from the
l'hidees of description•
fant'o'd, every in the County of
tc cannot be a matter of surprise to those
leight Itnow how to appreciate the value of up.
t and loyal principles, combined wills high
liitiei, and the must indefatigable attention to the
usine'll of Parliament, as well as to the internal
neerha of the County. We Dever remember a
ties Member who discharged the important du.
1;1 °E,that situation with more aftivity, or mote
h;egrltY. than Mt, FEAR! R, when he formerly re.
r.rarnted the County of Hertford.
„ Thursthy came on, at the Castle, at Oakham,
leeleflion of* Knight of the Shire for the County
°AliUdandi in the place of the late Lord CARBERRY.
•,1" the business of the day had keen opened by.
iiile High shetir, the Rev. Mr. Forrest begged
eta t° propose Lord HIM/H*lla to the Free.
a p.. as • proper Representative in Parliament of
thee t`',aunt)..--a nomination which was seconded by
iz 4eVs Mt.i LUCAS; and his Lordship was im.
4tdiarely unanimously elected. After Lord HIEN.
i!,.it had returned a very handsome Address of
/7:hikes the Freeholders present dined with his
1411114, and the day was spent with conviviality•
c',l3_, the unfortunate death of Captain jetty's, the
elhce of Treasurer of Greepwieh Hospital has be.
ume vacant.
ttl himself T' B. TUOMPSON, who so gallantly condua.
tihimself in the memorable Battle of the Nile, and
the hernie adtions, is, we find, a Candidate for
vacant Treasurership of Greenwich Hospital.
The m •
. "Pion: Chronicle haying declined answer.
in chi questions in our Paper of Thursday, we arc
iia,'.6fiNl in saying, that it is now admitted to be
:ncontestib true," 111
the Caro .J' ke, that the former statement of
Stir*. 7"fieri re,
pedling Lord BUCKINCIIAM.
Chronicle. WAS WHibLLYIVALSS ; and that the illeritiV
yout --
hgs at last found out, that Lord Sin.
i)..,ee had nothing to do with the appinrment of
.r. i3lrt to.
o The article which
trt,
,sa yesterdaytc,ll 613 t
4aper of appeared in a Morning
relating an instance of the fatal
i'tt of and
ebullitions of ssion, respeding a
patio- L • . .
ts,chsfln:l,gbi In reputa!inn at the
iCorn and Flour
tzir as we are nappy to find, a grosi itiiireo.
Pl"tti on of the lA, and we
nor d
theraire think it
. duty in, ~,i, ,
it. ' w 14%'0 the first opportunity of contradia•