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ing the report of 1832, but I positivieltny that I said
there was no occasion for it.—(Chair.)
Mr. O'CONNELL.—But I did not make the motion
for printing it. -.Why did I not make it ?---(Cheers, and
calls for the interference of the Speaker.)
Mr. LITTLETON.--It is impossible for me to say
why he altered his mind. It is true that he did say to me,
" Then you have nothing for it but to resign ;" but he did
not add, to my knowledge or in my hearing, any other
words. My answer was simply and plainly this—" What-
ever your opinions or feelings may be, do not disclose them
now, but wait until you have more public notice of the in-
tentions of Government in Lord Grey's speech to-morrow."
The SPEAKER here interposed, the matter terminated,
and order was restored.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.

A message was then brought up from the Lords, an-
nouncing that the London and Southampton Railway Bill
had been agreed to by their Lordships.
Mr. O'CONNELL then rose and said, that as the
Right Hon. Gentleman had refused to answer the question
which he (Mr. O'Connell) had put to him, he hoped that
he could have no objection to the production of the copy of
the correspondence which had passed between the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland and his Majesty's Government, re-
lative to the renewal of the Coercion Bill. The production
of such correspondence would enable the House to decide
whether the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland was against the
renewal of that Bill or not. It was of the utmost import-
ance for the House and the country to know whether the
Lord Lieutenant was for or against the renewal of the
Coercion Bill, at the time when he and the Right Hon.

Gentleman had had communications together on the subjec

because, if he was against the renewal of the Bill at that
time, something must have occurred since then to induce
him to change his mind. He trusted that the Right Hon.
Gentleman would have no objection to this, in order that
a matter of so much importance might be properly un-
derstood. Let, he repeated, the fact be known, whether,
at the time referred to, the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland
was or was not against the renewal of the Coercion Bill of
last year. He did not see what objection the Right Hon.
Gentleman could have to lay the correspondence in ques-
tion before the House. That was the only way to bring
the statements of the Right Hon. Gentleman to the test,
as to what the opinions of his Majesty's Government were
with reference to the renewal of the coercion measure. In
fact, the Right Hon. Gentleman was bound to produce a
copy of this correspondence to the House. If he did not
produce it, if be opposed his (Mr. O'Connell's) motion on
the subject, the inference which the House would deduce
from the Right Hon. Gentleman's refusal was sufficiently
clear. If he wished to vindicate himself, he must accede
to the motion which he (Mr. O'Connell) would now submit
to the House, which was—" That an humble address be
presented to his Majesty, praying that he would be gra-
ciously pleased to order that a copy of all the correspondence
which had passed between the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland
and his Majesty's Government, respecting the renewal of
the Coercion Bill, be laid before that House."
Mr. LITTLETON said that it was the custom of that
House, and he hoped it would not be departed from in the
present instance, to leave to Government the production
of whatever papers they thought necessary to lay before the
House, to justify any particular measure which they thought
proper to bring before it. On bringing in the measure in
question, he (Mr. Littleton) would lay before the House
all the correspondence which had passed on this subject
between the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and his Majesty's
Government which was necessary to justify this measure.
Mr. O'REILLY was of opinion that the matter before
the House ought not to be suffered to remain in the state
in which it then stood. He had no hesitation in saying that
he had little in common with the Hon. and Learned Mem-
ber for Dublin ; he had not spoken to him for the last
two years ;—(A laugh)—but he concurred with him, that
the Right Hon. Gentleman ought to vindicate himself
by the production of a copy of the correspondence which
the Hon. and Learned Member had moved for. He
had no hesitation in saying that the explanation of
the Right Hon. Gentleman was not satisfactory to
his (Mr. O'Reilly's) mind ; and if the matter was left
in its present state, he did not see how those who were
friendly disposed towards Ministers could continue ho-
nourably or conscientiously to support them. This ques-
tion was one of too much importance to be met by any
evasion such as that with which it had been met by
the Right Hon. Gentleman. It could only be honourably
or beneficially settled by laying before the House a copy of
all the correspondence which had taken place between the
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and his Majesty's Government
on the subject of the renewal of the Coercion Bill. He
(Mr. O'Reilly) had generally supported Ministers, and had
every disposition to support them, so far as he approved of
the measure being brought forward ; but, unless they fur-
nished a more satisfactory explanation than that of the
Right Hon. Gentleman on the subject, his confidence in
them would be diminished.

Mr. H. GRATTAN said there could not be any thing
more calculated to excite the indignation of the people than
the bringing in the Coercion Bill without previous inquiry.
—(Cries of " No, no.") Hon. Gentlemen might cry no,
no," but such, he contended, was the fact. They had only
heard the statements contained in the report of three ma-
gistrates in a particular district, to justify the bringing in of
the Bill. If Ministers proceeded in this way, they would
alienate from themselves every upright and honourable
man in Great Britain : and properly so. They deserve
especially to lose the friendship and support of the people
of Ireland ; if they did not desert a Government
which proceeded in this way, they would be trai-
tors to themselves and their country. He (Mr. Henry
Grattan) was determined to oppose the measure in every
stage. He thought a resolution ought to be proposed to
the House, that if any ministry introduced a measure to
that House, without previous inquiry, they would be un-
worthy of confidence. He would move a Resolution to
this effect, as an amendment when the Coercion Bill was
brought into that House, and when he did so, he would
at the same time move that the House be called over. It
was worse than injustice, that, while the people of Ireland
were suffering so many privations and hardships, instead
of remedying the evils which were the cause of their
sufferings, a measure like that of the last year should be
again brought forward.
Mr. SHEIL had one question to ask the Right Hon.
Gentleman. That question was this : Was not the
Marquis of Wellesley Lord Lieutenant of Ireland in 1823,
under a Tory Administration ? And did not the Hon.
Gentleman opposite, then on his (Mr. Shell's) side of the
House, insist—when, on that occasion, certain coercive
measures were proposed, for Ireland—insist on the produc-
tion of those despatches of the Lord Lieutenant on which
those measures were founded? Now the Noble Marquis was
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland under a Whig Administration.
How, then, when his (Mr. Shell's) side of the House
asked for the production of the correspondence which con-
tained reasons for the alleged necessity of a renewal of
the Coercion Bill, could that correspondence be refused by
the Right Hon. Gentleman ? Were there no private rea-
sons ? for this attention to dates was most important to the
settlement of the question between the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman and his Hon. and Learned Friend. Let us have
the despatches written by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland,
and then Hon. Members would be able to form their
opinions on this subject. It had been admitted by the
Right Hon. Gentleman that the Lord Lieutenant was
averse, a short time since, to the renewal of the Irish Coer-
cion Bill ; and it was for him (Mr. Littleton) to show what
had since occurred to make his Lordship change his mind.
Mr. O'CONNOR said that the Right Hon. Gentleman
had charged the Hon. and Learned Gentleman with a
breach of confidence in having revealed a communication
which had been made to him under the seal of se-
crecy. He should only say that the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman had been so anxious to gain some Government
object by his conduct in this case, that lie lost much of his
(Mr. O'Connor's) confidence, and he was sure that also
of the Irish Members generally. In so far as he was
concerned, he could say that he had heard more of the
matter from the Irish Members than from the Hon. and
Learned Member for Dublin. They had been deceived
into the belief that the Coercion Bill of last year was not
to be renewed, and so would he have been also, had he not
doubted the truth of the statement, when he was told it
had been made by Government. The Hon. and Learned
Member had not communicated to him the name of the in-
dividual who was his informant, but simply said he had the
communication from Government. That was all he had
heard about it until the bill was brought in the other
evening into the Lords.
Mr. LITTLETON —What I said was in reply to the
Hon. and Learned Gentleman's observation that I ought
to resign. I said in reply to that observation, that what-
ever his feelings or opinions were on the subject, he should
not divulge them until he had read Lord Grey's speech.
Mr. O'CONNELL said he would not press his motion
to a division, but would content himself with its being re-
corded in the journals of the House. The House could
not fail to see the predicament into which the Right Hon.
Gentleman had brought himself by refusing to produce
those papers which alone could vindicate his character, and
by contenting himself with the production of those of an
opposite tendency.
Mr. ATTWOOD then rose to bring forward his motion
respecting the currency. A few minutes after the Hon.
Gentleman had commenced his address,
Mr. DIVETT moved that the House be counted.

The Gallery was cleared fer that purpose, but there
being more Olin illityugembers present, strangers were re-
admitted. - --
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r. WAS ON moved that the
re not being forty Members
mutes to Seven o'clock.

PRICES OF STOCKS THIf
Bank Stock
3 per Cent. Sled. ()I MA
3 per Cent. Cons
per Cent. 9B7'
Ditto Red. QBN, 9 Si'
New 3 per Cent.
4 per Cent.
f Assented 99M
/Dissented .. 1011 f,
Bank Long Annuities to expire
Jan. 3, 1860 1714 3-16
Oct. 10, 1859
Jan. 5, 186"
Jan. 5, 1860
April 5, 1880
Jan. 5, 1870

PRICES OF FOREIGN FUNDS
Austrian Bonds
_ .

Belgian Bonds 99%12
Ditto Account 9B

Brazilian Bonds

Ditto Account 7Bq

Buenos Ayres Bonds 3.2
Ditto Account •

Chillian Bonds 31%

Ditto Account 33%
Columbian Bonds 29%
Ditto Account
Columbian Bonds, 1824 33
Ditto Account .32,L 3
Danish Bonds
Ditto Account

Greek Bonds —
Ditto Bonds, 19'23 33%
Ditto Account --

Mexican Bonds, 5 per cent 34 I 4
Ditto Account
Ditto, ti per cent. 454
Ditto Account 45
Neapolitan 9414

PRICES OF SHARES THI

Alien Mining Company
Bolanos Mining Company
Brazilian Mining Company
Ditto Imperial (issued at 5/. pm.)

Ditto 11,1a,:aubas Cocaes

Ditto Scrip
Ditto St. John del Rey
Cata Branca Mining Company
British Iron Company
British Copper Compiny .
Mexican Mining Company
United Mexican (issued at tj. pm.) ,
Ditto New Scrip .
London and Birmingham Railway CI
Australasia Bank
Canada Company
Provincial Bank of Ireland

DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK
New 5 per Cent
India Stock

Ditto Bonds ~

-^G pm

South Sea Stock 1113,,4
Old Annuities —
New Ditto —
3 per Cent. Annuities, 1151—
Exch. Bills, £I,MO 51 52 pm.
Ditto 500 5l 52 pm.
Ditto Small 5l 55t pm.
Ditto Commercial pm.
Ditto Advertised pm.
Bank Stock for Account —
India Stock for Account —
Consols for Account...... 9234 2i 074,

THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Peruvian Bonds
Ditto Account '2B
Portuguese Bonds 89.,,',
Ditto Account
Ditto New Bonds S'2N%l. 3
Ditto Account B2;c, :3!,, 14
Prussian Ponds li 1%
Ditto Bonds, 1800
Russian Bonds, 1822 inw,
Ditto Account 10554
Ditto Metallic
Spanish Bonds 44) 8% 914
Ditto Account 9N 83i 9%
Ditto Bonds, 1833 40%
Ditto Account 4O
..._

French, 5 per cent —f. —c.
4 per cent. f. —c.
5 per cent. f. —c.
Exchange f. —c.
Dutch, Z.', per cent.: 511004
Ditto Account 'il %Vs
Ditto, 5 per cent ' 8 7.4
Ditto Account 0744 8

DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Paid. Per Share,
11N
125

£9
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