The Sun.
London, England, 1851-04-08 00:00:00

TURKISH LOAN.

In answer to a question from Mr. URQUIIART,
Lord PALMERSTON said that the British Govern-
ment most certainly had not given guarantees on
the loan raised for the Turkish Government —(hlear,
bear.) Propositions had been made by private per-
sons to the Turkish Government with a view to

raising a loan, but it concerned the Turish Government
solely.
ADULTERATION OF COFFEE.

Mr. THOMAS BARING asked the Chancellor of the
Exchequer whether he purposed to withdraw or to make
any change in the Treasury minute of 31st August,
1840, sanctioning the adulteration of coffee?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXHEQUER said it
was not bis intention to make any alteration in the Trea-
sury minute, or in the practice of the Excise-office on
this subject.

RELIGIOUS HOUSES.
In reply to a question from Mr. KEOGH,
Mr. LACY said that it was his hope to bring the Bill
on to-morrow, but as that was unlikely he would move
that the consideration of the Bill be deferred until after
Easter.

The Bill was accordingly postponed.
CIVIL PROCESSES (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. SADLIER moved for a return giving, in tabular
form, the number of original civil bill ejectment pro-
cesses ontered, and the number of copies served, in the
years 1845, 1846. 1847, 1848, 1849,, and 1850, in and for
the counties of Clare, Cavern,, Cork, West Riding. and
Longford, respectively; similar return of the number of
such processes heard and decided upon; similar return of
the number of civil bill processes for redemption, of copies
served, and of such processes entered, heard, and decided;
similar returns in replevin cases, and in legacy or dis-
tributive
.share of assets cases : and, similar return of
all other original civil bills, and of the number of copies
served, and the number of such cases entered, and the
number of such cases heard and decided; such returns
to distinguish the number of; cases in which civil bills
were merely issued and served, from those cases in which
the: civil bill was entered, and a decree or dismiss
was had; and also, to exhibit the average num-
ber of copies served in each class of civil bill process.
The Hon. Gentleman then asked whether it was the in-
tention of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite to pro-
' ceed with the Bill.
The MASTER of the ROLLS said that he had only
taken charge of the Bill in the absence of the Hon. the
Attorney-General for Ireland, and that he meant to pro-
ceed with it as long as it was under his care.
ORDERS OF THE DAY AND THE EASTER

RECESS.
Lord J. RUSSELL moved that after the 30th inst.
the orders of the day should take precedence of notices
of motion on Thursdays.
Mr. 11. BAILLIE said that a motion stood on the
paper for the adjournment of the House, on Thursday,
the 17th, for the Easter recess. How did the Noble Lord
intend to deal with that?

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that as no notice of any
material question had been given for Wednesday, it was
his intention to move the adjournment of the House for
the Easter rece,s on Monday for Tuesday, the 15th, in-
stead of Thursday, the 17th.—(Cheers.)
CHURCH-RATES.

Mr. TRELAWNY then rose to move for the appoint-
ment of a Select Committee to consider the law of
church-rates, and the difference of practice which exists
in various parts of the country in the assessment and
levy of such rates; and to report their observations to
the House. It was seventeen years ago since the subject
was last investigated, and since then men of the highest
character had from time to time pronounced against them,
while no less than three proposals had been wade for
ther abolition. It might be objected to this, that at
the present moment the Dissenters were not agitating
the subject, and therefore there was no necessity for
this Committee; but it should be remembered that in
large towns the ratepayers managed to establish a no-
minal rate, or by the election of popular churchwardens
they got rid of many of the abuses that attached to
the system. He admitted that for some time past
little had been said on this eubject, but that
in his opinion was precisely the reason why they
ought to institute the inquiry he asked for, because in a
time of excitement they were not likely to arrive at an
impartial decision, whereas in a time of quietude and
peaco they had not only ample opportunities of consider-
ing such questions as this, but of calmly and satisfac-
torily disposing of them. There was a wide difference
between tithes and church-rates—the former were levied
on land, and the latter on persons. When the House
considered what great social evils arose from the pre-
sent mode of levying church-rates, he thought little ob-
jection would be offered to his motion fur the appoint-
ment of a Committee to inquire into the subject, and to
devise a remedy for those evils.
Mr. HtIRDCASTLE seconded the motion. Looking
to events which had taken place lately, he rejoiced that
this question had come on for discussion this year in-
stead of last. A question of this nature, involving as
it did the whole principle of Church-rates, required, he
thought, muchinvestigation, and was deserving of all the
trouble which it might eccation. As it affected the
Church of England, it could only have reference to the
security of the payment of tithes. It appeared that
the Dissenters who were liable to church rates
had about 10,000 meeting houses in England
and Wales. The members of the church had on
the other band about 12,000 churches. ',Well, then, if
they were to take into consideration the real facts of the
case they must look to the amount paid by the Dis-
senters towards the church-rate, and the object
for which those rates were levied. It could
not be denied that the object really was to repair the
edifices; neither could it be denied that these edifices
had been built by our ancestors so that the present fre-
quenters of the church would not be op-
pressed even if they were obliged to sup-
port the edifices themselves. It appeared that
the Dissenters paid about one-sixth of the
church-rates, and tie believed that if the compulsory
collection of church-rates were to be abolished no evil
would arise, for it was his impression that not only the
members of the Church, but the Dissenters also would
readily contribute to a voluntary rate for the preserva-
tion of ecclesiastical buildings. He did not see that
there could be any direct connexion in principle
between church-rates and church-tithes. -

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

COURSE OF
Amsterdam 11 IS%

Date, three months.. 11 16
Rotterdam .. • . 11 17

Antwerp.............. 25 224
Brnssels.... 25 221

Hamburgla 13 7
Alton.. • • ...

Paris, 3 days'sight • . 25 2%
Ditto, 3 months .... 25 22%
Marseilles • • 25 25

Bonrdeaux . •
rrankfort on Maine....

Berlin.... • • ..

Vienna, effec. do.. 13 18
Trieste, ditt0...... 13 20
Petersbargh, Sli. Rble 3714
Madrid .. .•• • .. .. 50%
Cadiz •• •.. 60
Barcelona . •

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