The Sun.
London, England, 1802-11-24 00:00:00

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the Case of iNationohimurshless than that of France
„in „point of te rrittv .at the time
poptilbus than several of the then independent States
Of Europe, and yea that vast Nation had been blot,
ted out of the Map of 174-ope, as an indep:ei,dent State.
It must be obvious to the House that he alluded th
Polande Upon that occasion, there wasain that House:
this"Countr!e, het one feeling, and jet' it had
been held, not only by Ministers, but also by a. con,
siderable bodir of thot;e svho opposed them, thanthiS
Nation ought not, to go to War on that
did not believe that any considerable. body, of :nen
blained Ministers for their.condua on that occasion.
s:
. Because wha te ver.protence it mighefuanish
afterwards for continuing a contest-that might be ,rte;
vitable, it was unadviseable at that time, hoWever de_
sirahle, becauSe it, was" mpossible for. us tohave inter
fered, with.any ;alliance of success, without Continen,
tal support. From the state of Europe, at that time,
under all the circumstances that must inevitably.
have been conneacd .with War, there was no, read
.sOnable_hope of success, in any cil'arts of ours, with,
Out Continental support, Nell. we could not then
haVe ; and, thersfore, howcver. just itiltself,pr de,
sirable the thing might he, there was notating to
warrant our active interkrznce. AnOther transac.
tion was to be found in the history of Europe," which
was more immediately conncsaid with The direaina
ter-est of this Country, on the subjed of CUritinental
Policy: lt was that of the conduit of King Williattt
the Third, tinder all the good qualities Of that Prince
:and his' admired general Policy, and when the Poli-
tical SyStem of this Countsy was . established,
on the wisest Ewing. He meant the great point
by which. the ambition. of Lonis the 14th appeared
on the death of ,the King. of Spain, on the War, of
Succession, upon the Will of the .King of Spain.
It was then declared,' by King William, to. he the
'pOliey of this Country, under all the circumstances,
not .to interfere alone in that question, so as to in-
yolve this: Conntry in a ,War, without Continental
support ; and this was the opinion of a Prince, who,
.froin his education 'and habits, was certainly prone
to an interference in continental Affairs.; In a
.worda it was his opinion, that without Contirtental
Stip-port:this Country ought not to interfere in Con.
tinental concernseon the ground of Expediency ;
but this was a totally distina thing from any ab-
straa insulated policy.—lt was a policy founded on
the reason Of the, thing, arising out. of circumstances
over which_we had no scontroula With regard to
the, circumstances of .the present momentaand what
wound have been wise for, ,His Majesty's Ministers
to do, that was,. as he had said already, a question
9f more delicacy than difficulty for him to speak
upon74le should, however,, speak in general terms
upon that topicn He would say, that the conduct
Of His Majesty Ministers was governed by a consia
deration. of all the circumstatices.of the case, by a
due consideration of the value of objects, of the
theca Peace,- and of the State of the Continent at the
time. Putting the first point for a moment out of
the question, wany observations might he made on
the State of the Continent. It might
.be. well worth
consideration, Whether, if they • thought that the
objeas themselves were such, as wouldacles.erve the
renewal of . and we were determined to
take that .course, it was probable, at this moment,
we should have any effeaual support This was a
point which must be governed by a variety of con.
siderations, ; and he had no difficulty 'in saying,
that although,. after a War, such as that which had
been.closed,- with: the magnified State of:France,
Peace
.was, under all circumstances, desirable yet
he should have rejoiced, and he believed that every
refleaing Man in this Country would have rejoiced,
if, by a .wise,, temperate,: and firm condua in the
other PoWers of Europe,. a. J3arrier could have been
pui tovfatther encroachment ; 'but at present, from
points, some of which had been foreseen 'at the
time of making Peaces--he meant particularly' some
Ouestions as to the Indemnities, which must give
to France advantages in all Continental DiscusSions
Of: ilais kind ; many evils arose which were unit-
voidable. It was not necessary fOr
,him, at this
time, to consider the Question of Indemnities,
.though there was much injustice,, yet, perhaps,
_something of the kind .was inevitable. lt was a
System of Indemnity, so,called, and nothing more.
Bat so it happened, tlrat, the moment the discussion
was opened,
.France had it in her power to ho'ld oht
immediate advantages to some States,
,which made
them less vigilant than they should be of the gene-
ralinterests. of Europe ; sn that in this respea a sys-
tein was established which was not to the Interest of
~this Country. He had, however, cautioned the
House in this respeEt and on. this point ; but most
persons agteed, that. the present circumstances aid
not warrant a renewal of the Contest ; but what
was most material to be considered was'this, if Cob-
tinental ConneEtions must be had with a view to
such a renewal of Hostilities, if it should ever be_
come necessary, by. a hasty' and a premature re-
newal, we should lose all the advantages of a well
concerted system. This was not a point on which
he wishesl to hold out any expeaation to the Hisease;
he could not with propriety do so if he had any
grounds for it ; but the House would feel the pro,
priety of the principle which he had laid down, as a
rule to guide this proceeding. If we had only a
desire for the continuance of Peace, this principle
was correct; it was likewise correct ever, in the
event of Hostilities tieing una voidable. He wished
to be most distinaly understood, as maintaining
the opinion, « that under the present circumitances
of this Country, and of Europe, if Peace eau be
maintained, consistently with honour to ourselves,
under, a proper defensive system, it is, under all
circumstances, better than a renewal of the War,
even' connected with a consideration of ail the events
which have happened. His Right Hon. Friend had
stated some words of his, used on the discussion of
the Definitive Treaty's respetting 'the National
spirit of this Country at that time: His Lordship
said, he did not state the sentiment in the insulated
manner mentioned by his Right Hon. Friend ; yet
he state then, and he believed now, that if' a
sufficient case Was made of injustice to us, but not
only of injustice, but also with a reasonable•expec-
tation of success, the spirit of the People was fully
equal to any contest in which we might be en-
gaged ; yet, that after ten years War, carried
on so extensively arftl so variously in its course,
the .spirit of the People did require, in some de-

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