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HOUSE OF LORDS, May 30.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Woo:
sack at Five o'clock.

PETITIONS.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented peti-
tions from several places in Scotland against Papal
aggression, and for withdrawing the grant to Maynooth.
The petitions were upwards of sixty in number; they
also prayed for a measure to prevent violations of
liberty in convents, and also for the adoption of
measures to secure for Protestants the same tolera-
tion in Popish countries which Papists enjoyed here,
He thought there could be no mistake about the senti-
ments of the people of Scotland. Thly were deter-
mined to oppose sacerdotal domination, whosoever
might attempt to exercise it.
The Duke of NORTHUMBERLAND presented
several petitions from Northumberland against the re-
duction of the rate of speed of Parliamentary trains on
railways.
Earl GREY presented several petitions to the same
effect.

Lord HATHERTON presented a petition in favour
of the Bill for facilitating the arrest of absconding
debtors.

Lord BEAUMONT presented petitions to the same
effect.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition against
Papal aggression. He also announced that he had re-
ceived several petitions from Ireland against the Ecclesi-
astical Titles Bill; also a petition in favour of the
Patent Laws Amendment Bill; also a petition from
Burton-on-Trent in favour of the County Courts Exten-
sion Bill; also several other petitions to the same effect;
and a petition against making any alteration in the
bankruptcy law. 11e begged to observe that the ex.
tension of the jurisdiction of County ;Courts would not
make any alteration in the bankruptcy law.
COURT OF CHANCERY.
The NOBLE and LEARNED LORD then moved for a
return relating to the state of business in the Court
of Chancery, and said that unless some speedy re-
form took place in that Court it would be im-
possible that justice could be obtained. Ho moved for a
return of the number of cases entered before eaeh of the
judges of the court, on the 2d of November, 1850, and
on the 30th of May, 1851.—Agreed to.
CRIMINAL LAW REFORM BILLS.
Lord CAMPBELL mov,l the third reading of the
two Bills, which he had introduced for the reform of
the criminal law.

The Bills were accordingly, respectively, read a third
ime.

PAPERS.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid certain papers
on the table of the House, by command of her Majesty.
OATH OF SUPREMACY.
The Earl of PONS presented, according to notice,
a petition from the Earl of Bradford and the Earl of
Clancarty, praying for a modification in that part of the
oath of supremacy which declared that the Pope did
not exercise any authority in these realms. They were
true Protestants, but looking at the manner in which
the dignitaries of the Roman Catholic Church had been
recognized in this country and in the colonies, they could
not conscientiously take the oath, inasmuch as it was
contrary to fact, and they therefore could not take their
seats in Parliament. He moved that the petition be read
by the clerk at the table.
The petition was then read in extenso.
The Earl of WICKLOW requested their Lordships'
serious attention to the petition, involving as it
did the question of the oaths which not only all
Members of their Lordships' House, but all Mem-
bers of the other House and all persons
accepting office were called upon to take. He
asked was it decent in the nineteenth century to call upon
persons to take the oath of abjuration? It was abso-
lutely unnecessary. But with regard to the oath of
supremacy, it was no oeth of supremacy at all—it was
absolutely a negative oath. The latter part of the oath
of supremacy was absolutely untrue. When they saw
that the Roman Catholic archbishops and bishops had
been received as such by the Queen on her visit
to Ireland, when they found that in an Act passed
the session before last they had been recognised
as archbishops and bishops, how could it be contended
that the Pope exercised no spiritual authority in this
country. The House of Commons had passed a
Bill repealing this oath by a large majority,
and it had only been rejected by their Lord-
ships, because it emancipated the Jews. The Noble
and Learned Lord the Chief Justice had in his Life of
Lord Eldon, said that Lord Eldon was in favour of an
alteration in this oath, and the Noble and Learned Lord
had expressed a hope that some alteration would be
made in the wording of it. Ho hoped the Noble and
Learned Lord would draw up and introduce a Bill
which would give to these petitioners the relief which
they sought.
The subject then dropped.
CHURCH BUILDING ACTS AMENDMENT BILL.
This Bill passed through Committee.
REGISTRATION OF ASSURANCES BILL.
On the motion for going into Committee on this Bill,
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he intended to
propose the introduction of some clauses which would
be much better weighed by his Noble and Learned
Friend (Lord Campbell) and himself than in that
House; and he, therefore, hoped his Noble and Learned
Frien would postpone the further consideration of the
Bill till they had had an opportunity of discussing the
matter. His sole object was to make the Bill as efficient
as possible.
Lord CAMPBELL expressed his earnest desire to
consider the suggestions of his Noble and Learned
Friend on the woolsack, and was ready to agree to any
postponement which he might think desirable.
Earl FITZ WILLIALI regretted that he had been un-
able to hear the conversation which had passed between
the two Noble and Learned Lords, as he, in common
with many of their Lordships, felt interested in the
course which those Noble and Learned Lords intended
to pursue with regard b this measure. Ho was by no
moans satisfied as to itsexpediency, for its result would
be to bring all the conveyances in the country to the
metropolis, where any body might examine them who
pleased. It was imtnssible to read the newspapers
without seeing how improper a use was made
of this facility in the rase of wills. Tho practice in
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a local registry and a general registry, but between the
present system and theone proposed, and the onus pro-
bandi lay on those who advocated the change. This
measure would interpose a very great obstacle to the
practice of raising moray on land by a deposit of title
deeds. Ho was, therefore, glad of anything which would
have the effect of delayng its progress.
Lord CRANWOR'I'E could not concur in the wish
for delay expressed by he Noble Earl, who seemed to
think that the Bill wood compel every landowner to
deposit his title-deeds it a ,general register-office. The
Bill did not, in fact, reer to existing deeds, though it
would undoubtedly aset all future deeds. Another
objection of the Noble Earl was, that the Bill required
the registration, not oft memorial, but of the deed itself;
but such was the law new in the North Riding of York-
shire.—(" No, no," from Earl Fitzwilliam.) It was un-
doubtedly so, and the laie was the same in Ireland; and
the reason why it was nit extended to the rest of York-
shire and to Middlesex was because it was stated that
the memorial gave all tle information. The Noble Earl
feared that curious pers)ns would be tempted to amuse
themselves with inquirhs into matters which did not
concern them, but this to thought a groundless appre-
hension. As to the facilkies which the Bill would afford
for ascertaining the incuebrances to which estates were
subject, ho thought this
03e of the advantages of regis-
tration, for a concealment in a case of this kind was ob-
taining credit under false ?retences. He doubted whether
the practice of obtainint money by a mere deposit of
deeds was a common praQice, but at all events the Bill
would provide a safer, more effectual, and more honest
mode of accomplishing th 3 same end.
Lord WHARNCLIFrE had received information
from a gentleman employed in one of the Yorkshire
registries, from which it tppeared that the three regis-
tries in Yorkshire were created under three separate
Acts of Parliament. The East and West Ridings merely
required a memorial to la 3 registered. The Act relating
to the North Riding gale the option to register either
the memorial or the died; but what was the result?
That in a very small minority of cases were the deeds
themselves registered. In Ireland, he believed that up
to the passing of the Act of last year, at all events, the
practice had been to register the memorial. He was not
satisfied with the Bill.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH said, the practice
was to register the memorial in Ireland.
Lord CAMPBELL scid, the practice in Ireland had
been altered by the Act of last session, under which the
deed itself must be registered at full length. The sub-
ject had been considered for nearly twenty years, and
those who had been consalted on the subject, comprising
solicitors, barristers, aad bankers, were clearly of
opinion that it would b 3 much better to register the
deed than the memorial. Besides this, it would be much

more economical. These discussions, however, on points
of detail, would be better reserved till the House should
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go into Committee on the Bill.
Y•-
The Marquis of WESTMEATH thought a more
monstrous law was never suggosted than one which pro-
posed to enable anybody to inspect original deeds in a
public office.
The Committee was then postponed till Tuesday next.
NAVIGATION-LAWS.
Lord STANLEY was understood to give notice that
he would, on Monday next, call attention to the petition
which he had presented respecting the repeal of the na-
vigation-laws.

-The Duchy of Lancaster High Peak Mining Customs
and Mineral Courts Bill, and the Compound House-
holders Bill, were read a second time.

On the motion of Lord KINNAIRD, the Public-houses
(Scotland) Bill passed through Committee.
THE REGISTRATION BILL.
The Marquis of WES i'MEATH said ho hoped to be
allowed to set himself right about a discussion which
had taken place on the Registration Bill. It had been
stated that the deed should be put on the record, and
could not be put on the memorial; he bad stated the
contrary, and ho had since ascertained that he was
right, notwithstanding what two learned Law Lords had
asserted in opposition to him. A law had passed last
session, indeed, making a change, but it was at present
as he had stated.

Their Lordships then adjourned at Half-past Seven
o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 30
The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes to Four.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The following Bills were read a third time and passed:
Great Southern and Wester❑ Railway (Ireland).
South Staffordshire Railway (Branche3 to join the Bir-
mingham, Wolverhampton, and Stour Valley Rail-
way, &o.)