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IMPERI7,!L, PAR LI WENT.

Or'Sh OF PEERS.

I.4ARC 25.
COIINStiI„ WtrtNDA furth Y
erlieordl4 in the Appeal Cause,
Rochriti v. Sir Aiexander Kinloch.—To be heard

ti sin to-morrow.
COMMISSION.
The Royal Assent was &elated by Commission
the new frith Tax Rills, to the Expiring Laws
ill, and to a iew Private Bills.
IRISH ROMAN CATHOLICS.
Lord GRENVILLE rose in his place, pursuant
he notce he had given last week-, of his intention
one forward with what he supposed might be,
;idered as a business of no small importance.—,
teld in his hand a Petition from a numerous and
t4table burly of His Majesty's Subjeds in Ire.
and as, on the occasion to which he alluded, he
Otitnated that he should enter into no discus.
4* the merits of the Petition, be should now
y desire that the Pe;ition be read,
Clerk then read the Petition ; of which the
ng is an' authentic copy :
RICHT HoNOURARLE AND HONOURABLE
KNIGHTS, CITIzENs, BURGEssitts OV THE
EU KINGDob4O, GREAT DITAIN AND IRE-
, IN VA.ELIAMENT ASSEMBLED,
humble Petition of the Roman Catholics of
reland, ;whose Nami,. are hereunto suhscrib-
, on bekalf of thernsekes and of others His
'ajesty's ,)sibjellt professing the Roman Ca.
lie Religion,
tTll—That your Petitioners are steadfast.
to the Person, Family, and Govern.
it Most Gracious Sovereign ; that they
td with sentiments of affeCtionate gra.
e benign Laws which have been enaft.
rating their condition.during iris Pa.
and they contemplate, with rational
'edilettion, the admirable principles of
institution.
itioners most humbly state, that they
and publicly, taken the Oaths by
to His Majesty's Roman Catholic
s of political and mt:ral principles ;
sntly appeal to the sufferings which
endured, and the sacrifices which
oiler than violate dn it consciences
of a religious or bpi, itual import
belief), as decisive proofs 01 their
tpulous reveteliCe for the sacred
th.
ers beg leave to represent—that
is they bind themselves, in the
icing Deity, whom all classes of
to be faithful and bear true Idle.
Test Gracious SAieteign Lord
Third, and him to defend to
power against all conspiracies
twit er that shall be male
Crown, or Dignity ; to dO
tours to disclose and make
ty and his Heirs all treasons
\racies which may be formed
and faithfully to maintain,
o the utmost of their power,
Crawn in His Majesty's
.rson or persons .whauso.
lose Oaths, they renounce
and alligiance unto any
or pretending a right to
to : that they rejt•Ct and
ind impious, to believe
ass to injUte any nelson
\nder pretence of their
that unchristian and
o faith is to be kept
article of their faith—
tjett, and abjure, the
ommunicated by the
ay authority whatso—
r murdered by their
tr peraon whatso.
tve that the Pope of
incet Prelate, State,
to have, any tern.
ter, superitJity, or
I—that they firm.
unjust, immoral,
I or excused by or
it was done for
abedience to any
and that it is
\ith, neither are
Or pitiless, that
y ate hound to
!fora!, although
er should issue
the contrary,
a them to pay
'hat they.do
, c6rionitted
will of any
-son or per.
iho receives
fur such
to avoid
far from
tin, incurs
Cranient ;
they are
the ut.
agement
I by the
laimed,
tion to
for the
hment
ftri-
'tied,
n or
to
tit

gion which they profess ; and your pet;tioner, most
humbly trust, that the religious doctrines, which
permit such Teats to be taken, will be pronounced
by this Honourable House to be entitled to a Toles
ration, not merely partial, but complete, ti vier the
happy Conatitition and Governmeur of this Realm ;
and that His Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjeas,
holding those principles, will he considered as Sub.
Teets upon whose_ fidelity the State may- repoieotiats
firmest reliance.
" Your Petitioners further most' humbly shew,
that twenty.six years have now elapsed since-their
most gracious Sovereign and the Honourable Houses
of Parliament in Ireland, by their public and deli.
berate Adoieclared, that, 41 from the uniform peace.
able behaviour of the Roman Catholics of Ireland for
along series of years, it appeared reasonable and ex-
pedient to relax the disabilities and incapacities
under which they laboured, and that it must tend
not only to the cultivation and improvement of this
Kingdoms, hut to the prosperity and strength of all
His Majesty's Daminions, that His Majesty's Sub_
jeds of all denominations should enjoy the blessings
of a free Constitution, and should he bound to each
other by mutual interest and mutual aff,:ttion;" a
declaration founded upon unerring principles of jua.
tice and sound policy,
.which still remains to be
carried into full effeet (although your Petitioners are
impressed with a belief, that the, apprehensions
which retarded its beneficial operation previous to
the Union cannot exist in the Parliament of the
United Kingdom).
" For your Petitioners most humbly shew, that,
by virtue of divers Statutes now in force, His Ma.
jetty's RomateCatholic Subjeds, who form so great
a proportion of the population of Ireland, and coo.
tribute so largely to the reatMlCeS of the State, do
yet labour under many incapacities, restraints, and
orivations, Which affect them with peculiar seve.
eity in almost every station of life ; that more espe.
cially they are denied the. capacity of sitting or
voting in either of the Honourable Houses of Par,
liament ; the manifold evils consequent upon which
incapacity they trust it is unnecessary to unfold and
enumerate to this Honourable Howe.
" They are disabled from holding or exercising
(unless by a special dispensation) any corporate of.
flee whatsoever in the cities or towns in which they
reside ; they are ircapacitated and disqualified from
holding or exercising the offices of Sheriff; and Sub.
Sheriffs, and various, offices of Ow, honour, anti
emcdument in the State, in 11:s Majesty's Military
and Naval Service, and in the administration of the
Laws, in this theieisative land.
" Your Petitioners, declining to enter into the
painful detail of the many incapacities and inconve.
niencies avowedly infliCted by those Statutes upon
His Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjuds, beg leave,
however, most earnestly to solicit the attention of
this Honourable House, to the humiliating and ig.
nominious system of exclusion,. reproach, and suspi-
cion, which those Statutes generate and keep alive.
" For your Petitioners must humbly shew, that
in conseqeence of the hostile spirit thereby sanc.
tioned, their hopes of enjoying even the privileges,
which, through the benignity of their must gra.
cious Sovereign, they hive been capacited to enjoy,
are nearly 'altogether frustrated, insomuch that they
are, in effed, shut out from almost all the honours,
dignities, and offices of trust and emolument in the
State, from tank and distiation in His Majesty's
Army and Navy, and even- from the lowest totna-
tioos and franchises in the several cities and corpo.
rate towns throughout His Majesty's dominions.
" Anti your Petitioners severely feel, that this
unqualified interdidion of those of their Commu.
nion from all Municipal stations, from the Fran.
chives of all Guilds and Corporations, and from the
patronage and benefits annexed to those situations,
i 3 an evil not terminating in itself; far they beg
leave to state, that, by giving an advantage over
those of their Communion to others, by whom- such
situations are exclusively possessed, it establishes a
species of qualified monopoly, universally operating
in their di,favour, contrary to the spirit, and highly
rimental to the freedom of trade.
Your Petitioners likewise severely feel, that
His Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjects, in conse.
quence of their exclusion from the offices of She.
riff; and Sub-Sheriffs, and of the hostile spirit of
those Statutes, do not fully enjoy certain other in.
estimable privileges of the British Constitution,
which the law has most jealously maintained and se.
cured to their fellow subjeds.
if Your Petitioners most humbly beg, leave to
solicit the atteetion of this 1-lonourable House to
the distindion which has conceded the elective, anti
denies the repitsentative franchise to one and the
Same class of His Majesty's Subjeds ; Whiel) tleraclies
from property its proportiuu of political power un-
der a Constitution whose vital principle is the
union 4)1 the one with the other ; which closes every
avenue of legalized ambition against those who
must be presumed to have great credit and 6110e:ice
among the mass of the population of the Country ;
which refuses to Peers of the Realm all share in the
Legislative representation, either actual or virtual;
anti renders the liberal profession of The law to Ro-
man Catholics a mere object of pecuniary traffic,
despoiled of its hopes and of its honours.
" Your Petitioners outlier most. humbly shew,
that the exclusion of so numetous and efficient a
portion of His Majesty's Subjeds as the Roman
Catholics of this Realleotrom civil honours and offices,
and from advancement in His Majesty's Army and
Navy, actually impairs, in a very Material degree,
the must valuable resources of the British Empite,
by ittioeding His Majesty's general serviceosaing
the most honourable and powerful incentives to civil
and military merit, and unnecessarily it:striding the
exercise of that bright prerogative of the Crown,
which encourages good Subjeets to promote the pub.
lie welfare, and excites them to meritorious editing,
by a well regulated distribution of public honours
and rewards.
" Your Petitioners beg leave most humbly to
submit, that those manifold incapacities,•restraints,
arid privations, are absolutely repugnant to the li.
beral and comprehensive principles recognized by
their most gracious Sovereign and the Parliament of
Ireland : that they ate impolitic restrainta upon His
Majesty's Prerogative—that they etre hurtful aid
vexatious to the feelings of a loyal and generous
peovle—and that the total alio:kw() of theist will be
found not onlycompatible with, but hioley cooducive

to, the perfetiteeutity of every Establishment, re.
ligious or political, now existing in this Realm.
your Petitioners most explicitly declare,
that they Ft-r
do rot seek or wish, in the remotest de.
gree, to
.injete or encroach open ti the Rights,
Privileges, Immunities, Possessions,' or Revenues
appertaining to the Bishops and Clergy of the Pro-
testant Religion, as by Law established, or to the
aommitted to their charge, or to any of
them"---the sole Aka of; your Petitioners bring
an equal participation, upon equal terms with their
fellow-suljeas, of the full benefits of the British
Laws and Constitution.
st Your Petitioners beg leave most, humbly to
observe, that although they might well and just-
ly insivt upon the firm and unabated loyalty of
His Majesty's Roman 'Catholic Subjefts to their
Most Gracious Sovereign, their profound respeft
for the Legislature, and their dutiful submission to
the Laws, yet they most especially rest their hum.
ble claims and expeßations Of relief upon the clear
and manifest conduciveness' of the measure which
they solicit to the general and permanent tranquil.
lity, strength, and' happiness of the British Empire.
And your Petitioners, entertaining no doubt of its
final accomplishment, from its evident justice and
utility, do most solemnly assure this Honourable
House, that their earnest solicitude -for it, at this
peculiar crisis, arises principally from their anxious
desire to extinguish all motives to disunion, and
all means of exciting discontent.
" For your Petitioners humbly state it as their
decided opinion, that the Ettensies of the. British
Empire, who meditate the subjugation of Ireland,
have no hope of success, save in the disunion of its
inhabitants ; and -therefore it is, that your. Peti.
tioners are deeply anxieus, at this moment, that a
Measure should he accomplished whicli. will anni
hilate the principles of religious animosity, and
animate all descriptions of His Majesty's SubjeCte
in an enthusiastic defence of the best Constitution
that has ever yet been established.
44 Your Petitioners, therefore, most humbly pre.
sure to express their earnest, but respeCtful' hope,
that this Honourable House will, in its wisdom and
liberality, deem the several Statutes, now in force
against them, no longer niooessary to be tetained ;
and that His Majesty's loyal and dutiful Subjects,
professing the Roman Catholic Religion, may be
effeCtually relieved from the operation of thoSe Sta.
lutes, and that so they may be restored to the full
enjoyment of the benefits of the British Constitu.
tints, and to every inducement of attachment to that
Constitution, equally and in common with their fel.
low subjeCt4 throughout the British Empire.
44 And your Petitioners'avill ever uray, &c.
44 Shrewsbury, Waterford, and Wexford ;
Kenmore, G.otnanstown, Southwill;. Tritfilestawn,
Robert Plunkett, Thomas B4tnewall, Thomas
French, Bt., Edward Bellew, Bt. Francis Gould,
Bt.. Thomas Ryan, James Ryan, Edward Moore,
John Purcell, M. D. ['homes Egan, M. D. Am.
brose O'Farrel, Richard Bolger, Randal Mac Don.
nell, Christopher D. Bellew, Anthony Donelan,
John Hartney, Gerard WM. Bagot,O'Donoghue, of
the Gies, Hugh O'Connor, Pierce O'Brito Butler,
John O'Reilly, Thomas O'Connor, John Rorke,
Jatnes Nowlan, jun. Nicholas Fleming, Denis
Thomas O'Brien, James Scully, Denys Scully.,
James Nangle, Antony O'Donel, M. D. Thomas
Warren, John Duffy, Richard Sause, Bartholomew
Taylor, Joseph Taylor, Charles Ryan, Fraecis
Cruise, Nicholas Gannon, Valentine O'Connor,
Walter Dowdall, Francis Coleman, Lewis Ward,
James P. Ward, Valentine O'Connor, jun. Thomas
Fitzgerald, David Mildly, James Barron, Edward
Ryan, John Burke, Edward Burke, James Byrne,
John Brennan, Jeremiah Ryan, Pierse•Barron, Wil.
limn Barron, Charles Byrne, Dominick Rice, Am.
brose Moore, Randle P. M ic- Donnell, Eneas Mac.
Donnell, John Byrne, Robert Caddel, Daniel O'Con-
nell, Thomas Batty, John Lalur, M. F. Linde,
Thomas Dillon, Christopher Taylor, Pisilip Roche,
Charles Roche, Elias Cur bally, John Taaffe,Tliontai
Fitzgerald, Richard Strange, Dote,. Wm. O'Reilly,
George G)old, Melaelly amelan, 'William Bellew,
Robert French, Maurice O'Connell, Daniel Cronin,
Daniel O'Mehony, James Ryan, Gerald Aylmer,
Thomas Galway, John Whyte, Julio Roche,Thotoas
Redington, E. Burke, J. M. Grainger, H. Trant,
R. S. Keating."
Lord QUM/11LE rose again, to move that the
Petition be laid on the His Lordship, at the
same time, deprecated any discussion upon the mat.
ter of it at present ; hut assured the House that,
as he had before intimated, ample notice should be
given of the day when he should think it his duty
to bring forward that discussion.
Lori AUCKLAND hoped that nothing he had
to say should be construed into disrespect to the
Petition ; but as far as his cars could catch the
tenor of it, it seemed to him to contain claims
which, if acceded to, would materially change the
present system of the Church and State. It would
also make it necessary equally to repeal the Test
At, and every thing of which the Dissenters corm
plained in this
,Country. Indeed were the prayer
of the Petition to' be granted ;71 tota, we should see-
a Protestant Church without a Protestant Congre.
gation—a Protestant King with a Popish Legisla-
ture. But ,he should not now go further into
the matter of the Petition ; the wish be had to
express was, that whenever it was to be die:
cussed, it should undergo a fair, a dispassionate, a
full and thorough investigation. He should call
upon the Reverend Bench more especially to come
forward an that occasion, ,and to give the matter
the benefit of their full, calm, and intelligent con.
sideration.. He, for one, could see nothing in the
signs of the times that announced the
dme,nisitt those
yosef
adopting such changes, of breaking
barriers
towtotrtiechesdtaibstlitnshgeudis,heselmtloten Cwhhoriwirceelvihere,o "as perhapsds_ the
he not
State
safety of both depended. lie hoped, at least,
to behold such times. lefitacli,
endeavour to
deprecated rush changes, he should
bring forward to the discussion of such a delicate
and important subject all the temper and h&c-
:nation of which his mold was capable ; and he
again express his anxiety that the question
might i t undergoniust such an ample anti t talon eat tr►~ist rirtrei:t
vocably decide upon the question,d set it at
sitars as inigi‘o. give rise to a result 11'
for ever.
Lord GRENVILLZ agreed with the Noble

TAM, that the huginefs-wac in ;wit' (4-that import'.
ance at to call for full, serious, and thorough invei-
tigatinn. He also agreed thxt the utmost c4ltrinosst
the most diwassionate attention, should he brought
to the discussion of it. For his part. he shuttld
exert all the little force of his ability to d)
justice
end give effect to the matter and prayer of the Pe.

shims.
Lord HAWKESSURY did not intend to make
any opposition to the Motion to lay the Petition on
the Table of the House ; nor did he wish to see ail'
such opposition to it in the first instance. It was
the undoubted, the sacred right of every &scrip.:
tion of His Majesty's Subjeas to by their grie-
vances before either House of Parliament ; anithe
knew of no obktlion that could be made to such Pe.
titinns, except when the words and tone of he
Pesttition were indecent and disrespectful, or e
Prayer was preferred which it was not comp
etent
for the House to grant. He did not see ;hat the pre;
sent. Petition was liable to any of those ohkaionlo
and therefore he could see no objedion to its being
laid upon the Table. But while he so far assented
to the Motion now before their Lordships,
thought it but justice to the House, he th`
it but justice to the Public, anti to the rang!,
more nearly concerned in it, to declare, that
any Motion was made to give the effed required 10.
the matter anti prayer of the Petition, he should be
prepared to oppose it, for reasons which at the tiotei
he should be ready to adduce.—(A cv of "
bearbrflf
' from Lord REDEADALg.) that
' Lord GRENfrILLE rose once more to OP' t
he should bring forward the question as soon ,sso
was 'likely that a full attendance niightlie.gili:
to it, and when that attendance did not
Noble
with the avocations which many
more particularly interested in the quehliesh g):lgbf
be under the necessity of attending ro• Lt
no means his Wish to interpose any unnecessart
lay. the
The Question that the Petition be laid oforl
Table was then put and agreed to. ihg
The Duke of NORFOLK, after alluding to
length and importance of the Petition, wAs f°,ll;
I?ti:t
nion that it should be printed for the use °e/r3et.
House. Ho was not aware aof any'Sr inclinVri"
fing
oar usuage of the House that prevented the Pthr
of .Petitions. He should, therefore, move this
Petition be printed.
r IVO
The LORD CHANCELLOR was notsPrePart/t
to say that there was any direft Order
against printing Petitions.; but he was sure 1,11 to
nor the pradice of the House. fie was l'atitiiscf,
acknowledge that the Petition was hog, ant
its object was of very high importance ;
not these sufficient motives- to induce their no
ships to come down to read the Petitionea
Table ? the Iktia.
The Motion was then put for printing
tion, anti negatived,

NAVAL .DOCUMENTS• i of,
His Royal Highness the Mixt of CLaaltsro:,
verted to a Motion for the produnion of eert"' • ~.
cO.ments respeding the Department of the
431t10,
which he intended to have brought fi'fvf.l°Picli
morrow, . and for which their Lordship' ill.d,v to
summoned to attend ; but he wii!ied to give 1;;J i,
a.l\l,dde Friend of his (I. ,rd DARNLEY) 4111°04
absernditiasrchl:l:;idu.n to A sgtralesettutittot.o their
or
01
therefore should move that the Order fur t"'3lly.g. •
he i tlli
Lof
bring tclorDwAarßtiNlitilsYMlllietinotgt ifivJer In'o°rltiictee,; tl'ha3Pte;ht;nisritiftes.:,
uiay next ; and moved that their 1.01dallii"
mooed for Oat 1 ties.---Ordered.
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JUDGE FOX. I
Lord Atic KI. 1111) brought forward the M °gl.°o; t..'
which he referred nn a former day,hat 1,11.,cat0
ters alledged against Mr. Juoice Fox be relefilios
to d.eitti's of
the opinion of the Twelve judge's
.whether the said matters contained all thil'frif.the
high crimes and inii.inneanof,, and wile"; ooti
House had adopted a right mide of proceedinorielenc
whether it was Competeht la them, irl tilt3l)
instance, to proceed by way of Adtiress• ~i,odfa•
The Lotto Cu ANC E L LOR proposed the siftoch.
rnent of tl.;e question till Monday ; and 4a.l'ieGOd,
discussion of the on business by Lotus 0,, M.
VILLE, 11AwKtsgultv, and ELLefolt9lfcitlic
sugge;tion of the Loa D Co AN CII 1.1.0 Er ta 4 FIQUO
blbinelS tilt Monday, was Adqtetli and
iliC
atijourned at nine o'clock.

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