The Sun.
London, England, 1851-06-03 00:00:00

DINGLE UNION.

Mr. REYNOLDS rose to ask the Chief Selretary
for Ireland, if the R-•v,rend Mr. L-wis and the R verenti
Mr. Goodinsn, the Protestant chiplains of the Dingle
Union Workhou.e, have been dismissed by the hoard or
guardians.. and if Au, whether th it removal has been
s :netioned b} the Poor-law Commissioners.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he bsd no reason to be-
lieve that the board of guardians bad removisd either ut
the gentlemen.

INCOME TAX. ,
HUME nominated the 'Select Committeato in-
quire into the subject of the income-tax, consisting of
the following gentleenen;--41.re Hume, the Chancellor
of the Exchequer, Mr. Burstein(); Mr. Herries, Mr,
Labouchere. Lord Harry Vane, :Mr. Disraeli, Mr.
Thomas Baring, Ur. Henley, Mr. Coleden, Mr.
Frederick Peel, Mr. Roebuck, Mr. .Ricardo, Mr.
Vesey, and Mr. Beckett Deeison. The course
he thought which wi.;tild have- be pursu; d
by this Committee in . their tabours would be. to 11,-
certain the workings of the tax in all its ways and
to. see whether any 'mode could' be adopted to
render it more fair. and, equal, and as lade as
possible oppressive to the industry e
f the people. Bee
looked forward' to the present inquiry to renoer
the tax a means of meineeinieg one uuttorw sjattM
of charges in the couetry, without the necessity
of more extraordinary chaig, 8, which they had
witnessed of late years, and which he contended, even if
they were for the better, yet at first produced 1-ss
Ills earnest wish was to retain,a permanent system.
Ur. HERRIES said when he had voted tor the
motion of the Hon. Member opposite to limit the tax fur
one year, he certainly did not mean his vote to involve
an assent to the present inquiry, and more especial))
*hen he now . p,-rceived that , the intention with
which the Honourable ItleMbe:r went into .it was
not to abolish the tax but to mend it, err-
taiuly, if he could , at all events, to make
tt permanent. . That principle he differed from
altogether. There was also another point on which he
differed from the Hon. Member, and that was that the
chief grievance of the tax was in schedule E. In his
opinion it wasschedule U which ts asmost faulty and unjust.
The Hon. Gentleman. had adverted to Mr. Pitt, but he
had forgotten that there was a wide difference between
the circumstances of 1798 and those of the present
time. The tax might have been expedient then, but
it was totally uncalled fur now. To show the
injustice of the tax he might mention an instance of ine-
quality which had, curve under his own observation. A
certain manufacturer had returned his profits at 70,0001.
a year; but the keel commissioners were dissatisfie d
with that return, and in order to avoid a Lull investigee
tion into the'whole of his private affairs he was obliged
to pay the tax upon 130,0001. But that was only one
instance of its injustice.-4Eletti, hear.) Now, with
regard to the Committee.. be. did , not think it had
been fairly selected, and he was very much afraid that it
would accomplish no useful end. The tax was full of
inequalities, unjust. in its Operetion, and liable to encou-
rage franc], and he therefore thought the .beet thing that
could be done was to abandon the tax altogether.
Colonel SIBTLIORP though; the tax in any shape
would be objectionable, and he, agreed with the Right
Hon. Gentleman that the proprsed inquiry could lean to
no good result. He complained that no Mrmber had
been selected to serve on ,the. Committee who
would be likely to represent the interest of the army and
navy. Re, for one, thought officers in the army and
navy, who lived upon trial, pay, ought to be exempted
from the payment of the tax, and he was, on that ac-
count, the more annoyed at the omission referred to.
tile. V. SMI CH had come down to the House under
the impresiiun ttist'there was nothing else to ao but to
nominate the Committee, but is appeared to him now that
the appointment of any Committee at all was au
open question. If it was he was quite ready to vote
that there should be no Committee, fur he was averse
to shifting any part 'of the responsibility
which duly belonged to Government on to
the shoulders of a citizen Members of the House. What
would this Committee have to. do supposing it was ap-
pointed? At one time ..it was supposed that the
abject of its appointment, :was .the equalisation of the
tax, but now it appeared the question to be decided
was bowfin. land could be relieved from its operation, and
if that really were so, how could the Committee arrive
at any satisfactory conelmiou on that point, when tone
Alembera proposed to- be nominated would represent
towed, and only six counties?— (Rear, hea .) He hoped
.be House would wake some alteration in the coustitu
lion of the Committee, if they were 4) base any at all.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER bud un-
Jerstood that the tax wee .to be continued for a year,
and, 'iu the meanwhile, a Committee was to be
appointed. with a . view of rendering it more
equal • in- its operation.' before it was rendered
permanent. The discussion which had just taken place
.bowed' the inconvenience which arose from two parti.e.
professing opposite principles . uniting to carry
a particular motion, bec..use now it seemed that while
m.e side wished to improve . the tax with a viers
.Or
rendering it permanent, the other want. d to get rid
of the tea alt eeetteer.—(H.ar, hear.) Tile Government
could not accede to the latter proposal, and they
had consequently no alternative . but to consent to the
appointment of the Committee, and now that such a
elution had been agreed to, their object ought
to be, so • to constitute the Committee that
tt should represent every shade of feeling in the House.
The Hun. Gentleman who had Lamed the Committee
appeared' to have been actuated by that desire, and
be thought on the whole that the Committee, us
it now stood •on the paper, was open to little or
no objection whatever. He, hewever, thought the sugges-
.ion of the Honourable and Gallant Member for Lincoln
Was well worthy of attention, and if any Gentleman
could be placed on, the Committee who could
represent the feelings of the army and the navy on tbe
,übject of the ittcomeetax, it was extremely advisable to
do ao —(Hear,.heer.)
Mr. FRESLIFIELD moved as in amendment that the
order for the appointment of the Committee be read fur
the purpose of being discharged.
Mr. DISRAELI said the Chaneell.)r of the Exche-
quer had referred to an opinion he (Mr. Disraeli) had
expressed the other night, but he had nut quoted his
observation's quite accurat.ly. What he had stated.
was, that in voting for the motion of the Hun. Member
for Montroee he did not vote- for the Committee, but
that understanding it was the feeling of the Government,
and :hat the sense of the House, was in favour of the,mo-
don, he gave his assent to the Comenitteee and ss he had
always objected to subeects of importance being dis-
cussed and decided upon false pretence. he bad we, d
to vote for the motion. But the Chanceller of the Ex-
chequer misunderstood tutu when he stated that he had
agreed with the Hon. Member for Montrose that the
subject at issue was one which ought to be reterred to a
Committee. What he did . say was, the( the le 7We
susceptible of modification in .sch. dule A and iasehedule
B; that as it had.been modified in schedule A by the.
Governmenteitaves not unpo6tible.but it
might be modi-
fied also iu schedule B—(Latiehter)that be bad there-
fore, not objected to inquiry, tint that he still hopes!
e_n_ith_ast.
modifictrion would be effected by her
M'4"s M
for a
Less. lithe Hon. Gentleman therefore, atilt wished
Committee, though he. ( Mr. boiraeli)
him "dnoPar icier
g desire on the point, he should
--ivehis vote. But he
appealed to the Hen. Member to consider all the cireum.
They
stances by which the question yeas .surround
ded.
were on the eve of the holidays-7a
Oath d a reafl )
been lost.in the matter; it was not possible, in the bpro-
hable Iperiod that the session would ast, o investigate
theroughly the whole subject, and the Committee would
haVe to make an incomplete report, or to be re-appointed
House.
Noooffit thee.
t
Irre-
spective har
again, and again begin their labours in the next session.
Then the meteerisetissfobfotiohne
.Ctoomtbmtiituteoeu
e were notu
nature to glee
authors .of the law, for instance,
were
on i
the t e
spective of their high positieme it would be reateit
advantage, in pint or satiefaution, hsve g
some of titose
genihmen who putted the Act of 1842 on the Com-
mittee. There were other HUD. Members also whose
service; were not called into re claim/4,m,
whom it would
be equally, satisfactory to see on tho Committee. e H •
(sir. [Mizell) put it to the flue, yleb
whether—commeecing tat the fet, er, therefore,
'of the r eesiun, with
a Committee cotnposed of Sti '
0 uwaris'actory materials
—there was any hope of co
mini, to a fair conclusion Un
the subject of his inquiry?
Therefore he trusted the
lion. Gentlemati would give the matter more considera-
tion under the '
cuctitnittauces.
Mr. AGLIGNBY r
p oteste what
d against he held to
be a fraud on the Reuse and on the public. He did nut
speak of any ings
of
that
,Fmotion iu particular, but of the proceed
House, The majority had limited the iu-
come-tax to one year,and• •
that majority was compose.
of those H(4l. Gentlemen opposite opinion.
that who were of
_opinion
that an in • •
inquiry be properly entered into, with.the
view of making-the tax more equal. A large number of
Members, however, would not have supported the motion
for limiting the.tak to one year, but, on the contrary,
would have supported its further continuance for thtea.
years, only that they believed there would be an inquiry
as to its operation.- The motion for limiting the tax Ott
Year but ten varrild cu the' tat of 40.1241-0.*1710_
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