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London, England, 1851-07-30 00:00:00

WEDNESDAI EVENING,

it was a question of those residing opposite that part of
the park. He (Mr. Bankes) cared not whether it was
my Lord Campbell on one side of the Sarpentineor Mrs.
Hicks on the other, he was opposed to every sacrifice of
faith with any individual. He asked the Hon. Member
for Finsbury whether he believed the consent of the two
Houses of Parliament could have been obtained for this
great project, if it had not been understood that the in-
terference with Hyde-park would be only for a limited
period.—(Hear, hear.) If he could not answer that
question, as he (Mr. Banke.9 believed he could not an-
swer it, negatively, whatever might be the wish for the
retention of the building, it ought to be removed at the
stipulated time.—(Bear.)
Lord SEYMOUR thought it far more important to
keep public faith than to affirm the motion before the
House. It must be remembered that when this subject
was under consideration and discussion ire this House,
and there was great opposition, the First Minister of the
Crown laid on the table a memorandum from the Com-
miseioners of the Exhibition, which gave their repeated
assurance that the building was not intended for a per-
manency, but would he entirely removed immediately
after the closing of the Exhibition.—(Hear, bear.) That
being the pledge, he did not see how it could be violated.
The Hon. Member for Finsbury argued that all the in-
habitants of the metropolis would have petitioued, if they
had believed that the building was to be rem.° red. That
argument was not very complimentary to th Commis•
sioners of the Exhibition. They had given ti leir solemn
assurance that it would be removed; the Grovernment
had given their solemn assurance that it would be re-
moved; and every Member of the House lead equally
declared that it would be removed; yet the :aon. Mem-
ber for Finsbury said the inhabitants did not believe one
word of it.— (Hear, hear.) The House shoed show the
inhabitants that words were not so lightly snaken, and
that public faith would be kept.—(Hear, heare)
Mr. C. VILLIERS had shared, to a great extent, in
the apprehensions that the Exhibition would not suc-
ceed, and it was upon tee general prevalence of those
apprehensions that it was understood the building would
be only temporary. Those apprehensions NA been dis.
appointed, and now it was proposed to make the experi-
ment of a winter garden, to see whether the expectations
of those who had brought about the agreeable disap-
pointment of every apprehension would be nand. It
was not a motion to perpetuate the building, but to re-
tain it for four or five months longer, and the feelings of
opposition were much changed, because during; those four
or five months that part of Hyde-park would tea more in-
jured by pulling it down than by allowing it; to remain.
—(Hear, hear.) There was a fair opportunity for
making the experiment, and it seemed rather ungra-
cious and injudicious, considering the feeling of the
people, to destroy and demolish the building at the
exact moment at which it was stipulated it should be
destroyed.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. CLAY was surprised that one eccentric argu-
ment of the Hon. Member for the University of Cam-
bridge had not heen noticed. The Hon. Member said,
" If the winter garden would give an advantage to Bel-
gravia, Tyburnia would put in her claim for the same
thing." There might be a question whethe raaccording
to the old adage, they might not have too mu ch of a good
thing; but if the Hon. Gentleman thought Tyburnia
would be so desirous to have a winter garden, how could
he in the same breath tell them it would be a. bad thing
for Belgravia?—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Cl ay) thought
property in the neighbourhood would be anaezingly in-
creased by the maintenance of the Crystal Palace, and
he asked the House to pause before voting for its imme-
diate demolition.—(Hear, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, if
the object of the motion had been to express well de-
served gratitude to the illustrious personago who had
originated the design of the Great Exhibithon—to the
Commissioners who had executed that desiign—to the
gentleman who had framed the plan,of the b u.ilding—or
to the gentlemen who had executed the work- --he should
have highly approved that object. No ex pression of
opinion on the merits of those persons had alien from
any Hon. Member, with the exception of they Hon. and
Gallant Member (Colonel Sibthorp), with Welch he did
not cordially concur. But he thought much had been
said beside the real question. The Hon. Bn [amber for
Finsbury had indulged in a warm eulogium o a the tem-
ple of peace, in which had been united all the, nations of
the earth. No one could admire more tha n he (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) did the Exhiteition of it-
self; and he believed the displaying to the g:Eize of the
world a multitude of wonders never before .collected in
one place, would greatly promote good fr 'cling with
other countries. But if that was to be the o bject of re-
taininr, the Crystal Palace, it could not be effected in
the way proposed.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") The
Honourable Member for Wolverhampton said. ~
.Dhe
e
let us try the experiment of a winter garde n." Bat
i
the House must take into consider letion the
m asseßnytinftjg
sato
terms
proposaloun t
of expense
of the contract. the Commissioners could hie come par-
chasers a, theyepwseoul wdhich' sanction,by
chasers of the building on payment of 70,0001. They
must be prepared to take on themselves the p ayment of
that 70,0001. in the first instance. Wheth. eV the Com-
missioners would feel justified in purchasing the palace,
and presenting it to the nation, was another smatter. It
seemed to him that at present, consistently' with what
was before the House, the Commissioners :mild do no
such thing. Therefore they must consider they were
authorising the expenditure of 70,0001. in tie e purchase
of the building. He would not state any preibable sum,
but he was quite sure no one would contradict. him when
he said that to put it in a condition for a wi n ter garden
would require a considerable outlay, and he apprehended
no one imagined that it could be maint 'Lined per-
manently without a considerable annual cost. This
only referred to the building as it stood. its a win-
ter garden considerable expense must be ii warred to
pat it in a state to afford the country tile slightest
opportunity of judging whether they would like it
or not. He did not suppose his Honourclele Friend
thought that empty walls would enable th B public to
judge whether they would like it or not as a winter
garden. If it was to be a winter garden al3 scientific
purposes must be defeated, and the views of! the Hon.
Member who brought forward the motion di d not seem
very consonant with those of the Honourablio Member
for Finsbury—

Mr. WAKLEY—A winter garden!
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUI4IR entirely
concurred with his Right Hon. Friend that it was ob-
viously and admittedly constructed for a
. ;tempor;temporarypurpose, and the most solemn pledge given theft, should
be taken down. Even this session his Noble lriend had
said he considered the Government was boucnd to have
it taken down, unless they were relieved by the universal
expression of public opinion. He had thought it right
to state to the House the amount of public expenditure
that would be incurred, that Hon. Members might not
give their votes in ignorance of what they w ere about
to do. As a member of the Government, he had re-
frained from expressing any opinion, and he should give
no vote on the subject.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HEADLAM denied that the House was pledged
to the destruction of the Crystal Palace. He denied the
power of the Government to fetter the House, and even
if they had the power, he denied that they head done so.
They were now to say whether the building should be
retained, and he protested against any fancied engage-
ment precluding their giving the metropolis the advan-
tages of a winter garden. There was no danger of any
expense falling on the Exchequer, and he believed the
public would he greatly disappointed if the building was
removed.

Mr. GEAC I-1 supported the motion for the retention
of the Crystal Palace, which he conceived was calculated
to be a permanent building. With the exception of paint-
ing, the expense of keeping it in repair would not be
considerable.

The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the motion ... 75
Against it ... •
47
Majority
VAN DIEMEN'S LAND▪ .
Mr. ANSTEY called the attention of the House to
the petition of the native-born colonists of Van Diemen's
Land, presented on Monday, the 16th day of June last,
for the purpose of moving that an humble address be
presented to her Majesty, praying that transportation to
Van Diemen's Land may finally cease.
It was moved that the House be counted, and only
twenty-seven Members being present, the House stood
adjourned.

Mr. SCSOLEFIELD paired for hearing the Greenwich
electors by counsel with Mr. BuxbilLIDGE against.

COURT CIRCULAR.
OSBORNE, TUESDAY,
The Queen, the Prince, and the Royal Family took
their usual walks and drives in the neighbourhood of
Osborne, yesterday.
Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent took a car-
riage airing, attended by Lady Augusta Bruce.
The Hon. Colonel and Mrs. Phipps, and M. Becker,
had the honour of dining with her Majesty and his
Royal Highness.

The Princess Augusta of Saxe Coburg Gotha arrived
in town yesterday, from Esher, and in the evening took
her departure for Ostend.
A meeting of the Royal Commission for the promo-
tion of the Exhibition of the Works of Industry of all
Nations was held on Saturday, at the Exhibition in
Hyde-park, at half-past one o'clock.
The Commissioners present were Earl Granville, the
Right Hon. William E. Gladstone, Sir Richard West-
macott, Mr. Cobden, M.P., Mr. Cubitt, Mr. T. F. Gib-
son, Mr. John Shepherd, and Mr.illopkins, President of
the Geological Society.
Mr. Scott Russell and Mr. Edgar Bowring, Secretaries
to the Royal Commission, attended.
Lieut.-Colonel Reid (Chairman), Mr. Henry Cole,
and Mr. C. Wentworth Dilke, of the Executive Com-
mittee, were present.
Dr. Lyon Playfair and Colonel Lloyd, Special Com.
missioners, were also present.

GooDwooD Cur.—One of the cups to be run for
at the present Goodwood Races is designed by Baron Mar-
chetti, and manufactured by Mr. Hancock, ot Bruton-street,
Bond-street. The subject is of a striking character. It re-
presents the last struggle of Lord Francis Villiers, a noble-
man who fought on the Royal side, with the Parliamentary
troops, when he fell overpowered by numbers. The story is
told by Lord Clarendon in his History of the Rebellion, who
thus describes the incident In the confusion the Lord
Francis Villiers, a youth of rare beauty and comeliness of
person, endeavouring to make resistance, was unfortunately
killed in a lane between Kiagston and Southbyton (Surbi-
ton) Common. The young lord having had his horse killed
under him, turned his back upon an old oak tree in the
hedge, on the east side ot the lane, and fought most va-
liantly with half a dozen assailants—two of whom he had
killed, when a third coming up on the other side of the
hedge killed him with a dagger. This happened between
six and seven of the clock in the evening of the 7th of July,
1648." The composition is distinguished by elegance, bold-
ness, and freedom. The figure of Lord Villiers is designed
with spirit, and the horse, which appears just expiring, is
modelled with great skill and accuracy. Aa a racing plate
WA may be placed in the arot rank.