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upon which we Sboul.lie;Li,l,it,P; and such remark:
as that to which I have adverted only prove that it is
sailer to draw up a statistical table then it is to govern
ita,anskind —Mean hear.) Go to a farmer who pays 7s.
to tee pound for poor-retes and I am sorry to say there
),
blue
toreumlcaleaa:shYoiensh:lypehrp"Say in,:i.i.eBta;%llii,
u73[3::ojui;nhat:h:7ll:o/lot 3(Il
You that that may be political economy, but that it i 3
!lot coat
sense nor Englisia junice.—(ll. ar, hear.) I
44" now placed befere the Heuse three measures—
ten measures—unobjectionable measure.—for the
rweioission of taxation to the only interest in the country
hien, according to her Majesty's Ministers, is
il*:ff,ering, and the only interest in the country which
("ge Budget of her Majesty's Ministers is omitted.
telissaiveettrh, hear.) There is a fourth measure,. not so ex-
ut which would be receivei with the greatest
Would
dr
tlbeytthe hedfeatraio
mehers;t the United Kingdom; and that
from the miscellaneous expenses
ee anected with the relief of the poor the expenses which
T°ow entirely incurred for the establishment charges.
e fixed salaries under the poor law system at this
toren,.
aad 6, amount in Greet Britain to between 500,0001.
00 pow
eke, f' • There is a particular mode in which one
rn officers are paid—namely, by a poundage on the
"'ea they fleet, s e°•Ltet, which renders it impossible to make
at absolutely correct estimate under that head. Bat I
to (11e may safely take the ameunt of the salaries paid
cers who administer the poor-law under the boards
guard'
servo Jahs—and all novel appointmeats, let it be oh-
s% `4, are the consequences of your new law—l think
G„smaY safely take the amount of those salaries for
pe'vtlat BritaM at about 550,0001. The analogous ex-
in Ireland would be about ISO.OOO/. On the whole,
p7%letriee'clif.e, Yeuwould have to deal with a sum of about
'0001• or 750,000/. Now .that would be a relief cora-
ls.— itself, and from its particular character celcu-
.rq to obtain great favour in the eyes of the occupiers
_s the soil,ueser
which well
I believe that it is a measure
wh deserves the consideration of her Majesty's Ministers.
of tialt Ore the objections to it? It cannot be said
lee)
as :tole
them;
that land has been inherited sub-
za.ustnet charges imposed
neither can it be said that it
• b"n Purchasedsubjectto them.—(Hear, hear.)
within the recollection of
I,,all,lnerabers of this House; they are charges that
we ul never have been placed on land if the repeal of
i,e,°4l-laws had taken
place in the year 1830.—(Hear.)
rear the zwe ption
of that vast sum expended for the
do no tehance and outdoor relief of the poor, with which I
underPuroose to deal, there is not ls. of the rates levied
aiet-,r,the Poor-law that is not of novel origin; and I
their irhpress on the House—indeed, I would appeal to
eg, candour, whether they believe, with respect to the
gistrist?,de of local rates that exist. the taxation for re-
thous of voters, for vaccination of children, and a
ow/1'44 other miscellaneous circumstances, that the
to thate" and occupiers of land would ever have submitted
tie_ remorseless taxation had they not been in posses-
aot° of that protective system, the merits of which I do
clue:ant to enter upon now, but the favourable copse-
welt" of which to that class you all acknowledge ?
niaaare' hear.) That reason alma is one that ought to
eh its consider these subjects with a very favourableg
Peen; ",ave now placed before the House four measures,
Whicheal• just, and beneficial, especially to the farmers,
meat it
,-_-!night have been in the power of the Govern-
ledge to forth—of the Government that acknow-
then-4,re distress of these men in the speech from
Inelee'sur.,°ne; the Government that introduces a
G°vineluding one of these measures ; the
listaernment that withdraws that budget, and
aeregs forward another omitting that remedial mea-
tier' Yet such is the course they pursue towards the
ree;•suuering class, while all other classes of the coin-
eeve'tY, to
„ whom they devote the whole, of their surplus
Netelee, are in a state of unprecedented prosperity.—
aseesr', hear.) From the beginning of the session the
tieeei-e,':°f the Administration has been an aggregate of
litaukt.ies never, I think, equalled in the annals of Par-
the The Hon. and Gallant Member for Lincoln,
anCer night, seemed to imagine I was interfering
lief laeasure of which he had given notice for the re-
tete._°_f the farmers. First, I hope it is not my habit or
tmtePur to interfere with the position any gentleman has
that and Scan assure my Hon. and Gallant Friend
bap ue is the l person I would interfere with, as I
410: tb® greatest respect for him, and that no one is
44 entitled than he is to advocate the cause of the
and er.--Hear hear.) But I would appeal to my Hon.
riote Gallant Friend whether, in the object I have in
ee-tiest°snight, I have in any way interfered with the
metal
he has given. The time will come when, legiti-
of Y, °°Y Hon. and Gallant Friend will ask the opinion
it
the at
add ouse on the question. When that time comes
will
ahea another to the anomalies which so much
the and about the conduct of the Government respecting
a
that gricultural interest. The farmers have complained
tle they are called on to pay a tax for profits which
Pron°ot accrue My Hon. and Gallant Friend has
p
shall ae • d
that the schedule which levies that tax
the no longer be levied. I should have thought
b: Government would have met the difficulty
h Proposing that the profits of the farmers should
ascertained in the same manner as those of all trades
are ascertained.—(Hear, hear.) I should be extremely
I:e'ad if they bad made that proposition, because the eon-
,(lllenee would be that there would be a public emon-
is`tation to her Majesty's Ministers of the fact ofd which
ja",ey seem. incredulous,. namely,.. that no farmer in Eng-
hun at this moment is making any profit at all.—(Hear,
te,Sr) But, as Ministers have not proposed to ascer-
ntal the profits of the farmer in the same way as the
Gallant
of ail other classes—Hear, hear)—my Hon. and
.ant Friend may most legitimately put it to the
Justice of the House—of Hon:Gentlemen opposite—that
ttttt the farmers are not permitted to prove that they do
Make a profit from the trade they are carrying on,
th trial' be relieved from the preposterous arrangement,
referred
continuance of which is now anticipated. I have
tales
to what I believe to be the incidence of various
etaieetken the farmers, The strain is upon their energies;
eea ,ueY are a class whom this House are bound most to
tlititeoissy:efeorr•—(llear, hear.) I beg the House dispassion-
a element to take into their consideration who
Men are of whom we are in the habit of speaking -, a reees
we-11,°0Y and lightly. I speak not of their numbers,
of the their virtues. Whatever may be the opinion
rev° nsouse as to the policy or impolicy of those laws
hi",,,ting the entrance of foreign agricultural produce
fitte7 Mt abrogated, remember always this, that the
har-netra were not the framers of those laws, though they
setree:teein their victims.—(Hear, hear.). . Remember-1
Your Cntnellouse to remember—the position in which, by
have egislation, right or wrong, politic or impolitic, you
h
has blilaCed that budy of the community. Time, whic
itherehrsre°s"iliont to
of
tshheomwiandgversity, has also brought to them
to the nation, of which they
9aalitie9• important portion, that they possess great
°us too Reviled and traduced as they were during
am 0° not controversies, they have shown great energy
tien nterPrise; they have shown skill and frugality; pa-
is 4° which is never exhausted, and perseverance which
come fa bailed.—(Cheers. These are the men whoth
men teZrward to you for your sympathy. These ares e.
reign, "°,ae sufferings were recognized by. their ave
tiapt,:atell gave them hope—whose sufferings were at •
uower-'lO be remedied by the Minister in a manner.
teref. er
~steght, imparting at least some expectations of
eecniteat These are the men who, in the extraordinary
g,eoted la which they have been engaged, the unprece-
tql Whi4i.ruiggle which they have had to encounter, and
gave, b they have been involved session after session,
Y the speeches of the Right Hon. Gentleman the
'4ll.sielaseteel!°r of the Exchequer—by the speeches of her
14 los Xitlititers in either House of Parliament—by
peecb
4etere ea of eminent members of the economic party
treat, zile, been constantly encouraged to believe that a
:11"eat-iber.tt,t,ing Price for thir toils, their industry, their
`S'lteiee,-"ti a capital, inevitable, nay, was rapidly
0:1 waswait a little
tiger 'Cheers they had only to
Noe "0 invest) more capital in rare manures, to em-
s rnOr
aerie„ e enterprise in their business, to exercise more
sus4 "d the inevitable result would be that they'
firt,„ _
!r •'4an ample and sufficient return for their in-
co ;atilt°. -ktheir capital.—(Hear.) These are the men
eapityear ' year find themselves in a worse position,
al atter year find that the more they invest their
enere, e less is their return the more they exert their
ties nies the ~ .
Beileeees leas profitable and satisfactory are the con-
t *--easicar, hear.) These are the men of whom
et tuhaneellor of the Exchequer told us the other night
to
rorn p°37,. were not to look any longer for assistance
Partiereillaixtents for countervailing uties, or remission
tht 'lar taxation. the
14) obJeet of our legislationbut surely they
.are the men,
ee, r lessen the
co&tofu respecting whom should
yap, the market p.rod atop,
.t.o permit them to
,4x,eadasid. brea,
at;tage, and
'when of unlimited competition with ev.erxnt
t the rest of the community arc . asking
fore abour....(Ochallow them at least to meet with un-
enahlt adiour eerie) I want the House, just be
a 0 nsbefore we go to our constituents—to
anee .to bear
(11 that her to the fitriners of England the assur-
ta eat) T thqr Will find sympathy and justice.--
eessaseed4.r.ask the House to consider, in a spirit of fair
lo°44detfee appeal to gentlemen opposite with as much
eoesidere*to thoCe who sit on this side—l ask them
1.4;1 to qui, all. that has occurre_th. is session with
huset ea s„. class. •L ask her Majesty's Ministers to
„lat eight eat has occurred within the period of the
Qteneientweekst and if they cannot reconcile its bacon-
.
ee Meal -'>their,conscience and reason, I hope they will
f`oligh, Yt enough, and even candid and kind
° acknowledge the justice of the. case.
'ehliem„ all the advantage which a recollection of the
k 0 oeeaci". that distracting circumstances necessarily
Osatyc-etiel.'ed• I am willing to forget the p.ast if her
rtntich the 4ennistera will onl recur to the feelings with
stteate/ emnrnenced the session of Parliament, and
ht ell of
%atj Pt to fulfil the purpose they announced their
b. •
se seer, ~ achieving.—(Hear, —(ilee.r, hear.) But I have not
seen'
Co' tl'hattctugh hop.e I shall see, u disposition to re-
invitation. I don't know what gentlemen.
,mair,..ll. connected with the land may feel through
JiN -.'wouailtue
no, but when we left our constituents last
be it them suffering from the injuries which in
, • had been inflicted upon them ; and it would
and
ior us to go back to them and feel that we
d as us
Injured you were when we left you,
Deal :tcytia3ieu have been insulted."—(Cheers.) But I ap-
,t!sel eauemtich confidence to gentlemen opposite. Nay,
„item ndent that no one will presume, directly or in-
ma hopeen!
Y or covertly, that by the moderate sugges-
4erei made'
ohave attempted to reverse our new coin-
tla "'tn. gentleman of great experience in this
aeXpressed his belief that, far from having a ten-
a‘eitleY teverse our commercial system, it has a ten-
eel •-• confi •
bele ton rne It. It may be a nice point to deter-
Cri_• r?versal comnaences and where it ceases.
Nekka.`r Alajesty's Ministers
°f 'e the • s.ers repropose the remedial
d° fir• e,te
mat the sYerthereselves introduced? Is that a reversal
et, 4't
4,1 hop, sstern?—(Hear. hear.) Least of all
irit of the reat dearted will be
atir q to
tile.ni to stand betwe g
en an abundant Treasury
hear of , ear, gs the farmers of the United Kingdom.
in °lute°, „.) It is because I feel confident that the
this epir,-,1 are about to piece in your her de is conceived
et,!alt °f justice; because I feel confident that no-
make
shouldrred which, from any sentiment of false
prevent her Mojcsty's Ministers from