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THE AULD MAN IN ALDGATE.

I met a man, a venerable man,
" Whose days had dwindled to the shortest span,"
Near Aligate Church the aged stranger stood,
And leaned upon a staff of knotted wood ;
While ever and anon he raised his eyes
With looks of miegled pleasure and surprise.
Seeing Min there, I stayed my onward walk,
In hopes, at length, of getting him to talk ;
Then stepping up, " Good morning, sir," said I;
" Good morning," was the grey-haired man's reply.
" I can't help looking (said the man of yore)
At that great house which now we stand before :
'Tis twenty years ago since I was here,
And what a mighty change—oh, dear ! oh, dear !
There's an extensive warehouse—there's a show—
Who would have thought it twenty years ago !
But will you (asked the venerable man)
Explain the houses on so great a plan ?"
" With all my heart (said I) ; I'm always glad
To give instructions where it will be had.
This is the Mart of MOSES, so renowned
In all the land and all the world around.
Part of the warehouse, venerable sire,
Is set apart for
GENTLEMEN'S ATTIRE ;
Attire which xo one had the luck to know
Ere MOSES opened—twenty years ago.
The splendid house which yonder you behold
Is but a sample of the garments sold,
And understand (said I) that cheapness there
An equal prominence is found to bear.
MOSES and SON were first in all the trade,
By whom reductions in the price were matte.
A HAT MART
(I continued) you will see
On turning round your eyes to eighty-three—
Such hats and caps are purchased there (said I)
As you have never witnessed years gone by.
- A BOOT MART
• Also helps to swell the pile
Put on your glasses, Sir, 'tis worth your while ,
MOSES and SON in Boots and Shoes have shown
That none can match the value of their own.
FURS, SHAWLS, AND HOSIERY
Likewise form a part,
And help to magnify that giant Mart.
MOSES arid SON in goods like these as well
Successfully endeavour to excel.
THEIR MART FOR OUTFITS
Clearly shows alike
What advantageous bargains we may strike ;
And thus have I endeavoured to convey,
A faint idea of that superb display."
With this I cut the friendly chat asunder,
And left the "Auld Man" gazing still in wonder.
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''T"E WIDOW of the late Rev. GEORGE
EDWARD HOLLEST, of Frimley, Surrey—Frimley, Bag-
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is respectfully submitted by a few friends and neighbours on behalf
of the WIDOW of the late Rev. GEORGE EDWARD HOLLEST,
who for a periA of 18 years, in an exemplary manner, performed
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and charity in the wide district under his charge. The act of
atrocity by which the Rev. Mr. Holiest was suddenly cut off is
universally known, but those only who are acquainted with his posi-
tion are aware that he never had the means of making a provision
for his widow. Under such circumstances, it is hoped that the case
of Mrs. Holiest will commend itself to the generous consideration
of those who are blessed with the means of alleviating, so far as
human sympathy and assistance can alleviate, the distress of a
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THE MANCHESTER POLICY OF
NEXT SESSION.

MANCHESTER, FRIDAY.—An important meeting was
held here last !light, at the Albion Hotel, called toge-
ther under the designation of a " social soirée," at which
was put forth by the Hon. Member for the West Riding
of Yorkshire a sort of manifesto indicating the policy he
and his friends aro disposed to take on the leading ques-
tions which are likely to come before Partiamont during
the approaching session. The parties invited to the
soiree were the leading members of the committees in
South Lancashire and Manchester, having charge of Ile
registers of voters, at whose suggestion the meeting is
said to have taken plaer,. Mr. Alexander Henry, M.P.,
and Mr. Brotherton, M.P., wore present, and took pi rt
in the proceedings. Mr. George Wilson took the chsir.
The Right Hon. T. M. GinsoN then rose, and was
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received with loud and universal cheers. He said—Mr,
Chairman and gentlemen, I can of course hardly be ex-
pected to occupy your time with a lengthened disquisi-
tion upon many of our public affsirs; I must simply re-
mark upon such points as strike my mind as being the
most worthy of our discuesiou at thin moment, and
which have occupied the greater part of my own atten-
tion.—(llesr, hear.) Our worthy chairman spoke in
very high terms,—but they were terms of truthfulness,
—of the success of the commercial policy which was ad-
vocated and carried by the leading rainds in the northern
parts of England. I think he expresqed, in the remarks
he made, not .a bit more than the plain and naked truth.
But since those questions have been settled,—no, not
settled, because in the matter of free tradee'ett the sim-
plifying of our tariffs, and in carrying out those princi-
plea upon which the repeal of the corn-law was based,
there still remains much to be done—(Bear, hear)—
still, since the great keystone of monopoly was removed,
since the repeal of the corn-laws was carried, my Hon.
Friend Mr. Cobden and the gentlemen who have acted
with him in the House of Commons have no reason, I
think, to be at all ashamed of the sauces that has at-
tended the policy which they have supported in reference
to our finarces.—(Heer, I;eer.) Fur let us look back.
What was the state of affairs in the year 1848? We
found the Ministry assuring Parliament that the country
was in a state of panic at an impending French invasion
—(Hear)—that it was necessary to increase our arms-
meats—that not a man could be spared. But I think I
say truly that this part of England, especially Macches-
ter and the neighbouring district, and the gentlemen who
are not politically connected with that district, were not
overwhelmed with these imaginary dangers, but that
they stepped in and tendered what I believe was prudent
advice to the Government, and checked them in a career
which, it is my belief, had they carried it out, would
have led the country into great difficulties, and would
have been the ruin of that Government itself. Now, Sir, I
think we may take credit to ourselves, and not only to
ourselves, but to the party—and those gentlemen who
have taken an economical view of these matters, and
a prudent and a temperate view of these things, they,
may take credit to themselves, for having rescued Go-
vernment from the pressure that was brought to bear
upon them, and for having enabled them to resist being
carried into this unhecessrry extreme of expenditure.—
(Cheers.) There was a five per cent. income-tax pro-
posed; two per cent. in addition to the income-tax; an
increase of all your estimates, Well, when the matter'
had been well discuessed, a complete change of policy
took place. Instead of Government coming forward
and saying, " Wo can't spare a roan; we are threatened
with a French invasion," and all the rest of it, why we
find that they can spare a great many men, that they
have reduced very considerably the expenditure; and
here we all are, sleeping as comfortably at nights, and as
little alarmed at these impending dangers, as men could
possibly be, with a considerable—l don't say very consi-
derable, diminution in the public expenditure.—(Cheers.)
And now I trust we are going to reap the fruits of that
reduction of the expenditure, and increase the income
arising from a more sound commercial and financial po-
licy, in the removal of some of those taxes which op-
press the industry and prevent the employment of the
capital of the country.—(Hear.) I will say this, that I
do not advocate the dealing with taxation entirely upon
what I may be permitted to call the narrow grounds
of whether there is a surplus or a deficiency.—(Cheers.)
It may be said that it is more easy to make an experi-
ment in our finances when we have a surplus than at a
time when the immure augments the expenditure. But
the late Sir R. Peel set an example, which I think the
present Government would do well to follow, of' not
basing our financial changes upon the mere fact of whe-
ther there is a surplus of money in the Exchequer, but
upon a well-considered scheme of financial policy, to re-
peal those taxes that are the most oppressive to the in-
dustry of the country, and which in the greatest degree
contract the enjoyments of the people.—(llear, hear.) I
want to see our taxation based upon something like well-
considered principles, and, even if there should be a de-
ficit at any particular time, I see no reason why a Mi-
nistry should not persevere in endavouring to carry out
those financial arrangements which would enable them
to remove oppressive taxes without injury to the revenue,
and with great benefit to the people.--(Cheers.) The
experiments which Sir R. Peel made upon taxation are
pregnant with valuable lessons to statesmen. I wish
them to profit by those lessons, to see that you may re-
duce a tax without losing revenue.—(Hear, hear.) I
would mention, for example, the tea duty. I believe if'
that were dealt with in a dexterous and sagacious man-
ner, the revenue which might for a moment appear to be
lost would be replaced.—(Hear,
hear.) I was told by a
gentleman, who is perhaps as competent as any man in
England to judge of this question, that if a person had
to farm" this revenue, in order to make it as large as
thhencouid be w
duty
on
mnoutild reduceffneshnulte
dhbeleutyre.—du(nAndppla(uisiceen)r,Ahgenainro.
The duty on foreign and colonial coffee should be
equalized; and this might be done at the present time
without the slightest derangement to any interest what-
ever; because we are exporting, as I believe, our own
colonial growth, and therefore you might, without com-
plaint, get rid of an objectionable differential duty, and
place the coffee duties on a proper footing.—(Cheers.)
There are many other taxes which are also open to
great objection. I hoar that the window-tax is doomed.
—(Cheers.) It was very
nearly carried during the last
session of Parliament.—(Laughter, and applause,) But
I have a notion, from what I read in the papers that
have the credit at least of giving
something like a fore-
shadowing of what the views of the Government may
be, that there is to be a modified house-tax to take the
place of the window-tax. I can
pronounce no opinion
upon the policy of that change until I see the measure;
but I would miler see the thing done clean, and the
tax entirely removed at once, without substitute.—
(Loud applause.) There is one description of taxa-
tion to which I have turned a little attention, and
which some may consider to have obtained some-
thing like a claptrap title, though I don't think
so—l allude to the taxes on knowledge.—(Applause.)
I hold that every country that professes to desire the
diffusion of knowledge among the great mass of the com-
munity, who profess to be anxious to make efforts for
the education of the People, is not acting consistently
with itself if, at the same time, it maintains fiscal impe-
dimants to the diffusion of knowledge.—(Applause?.) I
do not ask simply for the the paper duty to be repealed,
but also the newspaper stem—(Cheers)—and the ad-
vertisement duty.—(Renewed applause.) I believe, with
respect to the paper duty, that it is a question bearing
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intimately upon the interests of the labouring classes, and
especially in these districts. I know that it is thought
that the amount of paper duty on
a book is really so tri-
fling, that it would not make above a fraction of a penny
of difference in price, and that it is not of the slightest
consequence to the consumer. But that is not the point
of view in which I regard this tax.—(Elear.) Paper
consists almost entirely of wages and duty; it is the con-
version of a comparatively worthless material into a va-
luable article by the more application of labour.—(Hear.)
it misosttheinodnislypudteasbelyripdtoieosnof
And, therefore, as regards the working population it
appears to me to be a duty that we ought to get rid ' of
ltayaicxnh roftiahrlests: much a pound upon all
if we can. With respect
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the paper that is used in the speculation, and that it is
not to be returned if the publication does not sell.
Therefore it does act as a very material check upon the
spread of cheap and good literature among the mass of
the community.—(Hear, hear.) It seems strange now
that the proprietor of a little work like the Family
Herald should have to pay 3,0001. a year to Government
in duty on the paper he uses in his little penny publica-
tion, distributed among the working classes.—(Hear,
hoar.) Does not this lessen the chances of success of
such an undertaking, and make all the difference
of the capitalist being able to carry it on or not?—
(Applause.) Therefore, it is in vain to reply that the
duty on a large book or expensive publication is so mi-
nute that it is not worth consideration. I regard it as a
tax which prevents, in the first place, the employment of
, and, thus both
in
labour in the conversion of a worthless material into a
useful article; and as a tax that prevents the diffusion
of
referent©knowledge
to
tthe among
physicaltbe woraknd ingm classes
condition
of the
masses, I think it would bo wise to deal with the paper
duty. —(Cheers.) Now, I :know that there is about the
stamp duty a prejudice iu many minds. 111, for one, hold
that if you want progress in a country, you must have
a free press.—(Hear, hear.) You must have competition
in your press.—(Hear, hems) You must have an un-
shackled press, and you must have a cheap press.—(Ap-
plause.) You cannot diffuse facts amongst the great
body of the people, and facts are the foundation of all
right knowledge—(Hear)--without ycu can publish
newspapers at such a price as that the poorer classes
can buy them.--(Hear.) I therefore advocate the re-
moval of the stamp duty on newspapers. I know there
is a feeling (not common with the whole of the press—
God forbid! but amongst a portion of the press) that the
established newspapers are in favour of being taxed, be-
cause it keeps other people out of the trede—it creates
a congestion of capital in that particular article.—(Hear,
hear.) I don't believe that opinion to bo shared by the
great majority of the Liberal established press of this
country. Why, for people to desire their own taxation
for their own benefit seems, on the face of it, a mon-

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strous thing, because it would come to this, that
the more you taxed them the better it would be for the
newspapers and the better for society. The advertise-
ment duty is another branch of this lot of taxes.—(Hear,
near)—and the repeal of which I know would be
eery beneficial to the trade of this country, and to the
established press Tho advertisements are the source
from which flows a great portion' of the profit of the
newspaper—perhaps the greatest—and to fine people
Is. 6d. for every time they advertise in a newspaper is e
sure way to drive them to find out come other mode of
making known their wants—the sure way of crippling
the newspaper press, and of destroying its independence,
and of preventing it from having all those means of sup-
port to which it is legitimately entitled.—(Hear.) If a
man puts a bill on a wall, or in his window (though I am
not sure whether it ought not to be stamped), you doe,t
fine him is. 6d., but you say to him, "If you put it into
a nowspaner I will fine you ls. 6d. for making known
your wants there." Why is that attack upon the press?
Why, if it is right to have a duty upon advertisements,
don't you put it wherever you find the advertis-
rnent? As a very able writer once proposed, you
should have an exciseman to follow the town crier
'hrough the streets of the village, and every time he is
going to announce that a sele is to take place the excise-
men should step up and say. " Don't speak till you pay
me my 18d."—(Cheers.) That is the principle of the
tax. I say, if the penny postage was an advantage to
the nation—if the greater facility of communication in
various ways which has arisen in this country be appre-
ciated by the country, and be beneficial to the trade and
industry of the country—l say that the facilities of
making known your wants through that legitimate me-
dium, the newspaper, must be a great boon to the trade
and industry of the empire.—(Cheers.) And what is the
amount of this tax? A paltry 158,0001. a year! Why,
the advertisements in the United titat6aritpers are legion
as compared with ours; and I maintain that, in the com-
petition between countries, a check to communications
of this kind must have a very prejudicial effect. I hope
we may sea that, with a little pressure, these duties may
he removed.—(Cheers.) Government are in a little
trouble just now with respect to this newspaper stamp.
The thing has slumbered fur many years ; and it seems
they ire now beginning to look round amongst the
small publications that are in circulation amongst the
humbler classes of society and endeavour to exercise a
species of censorship—that is, not the Government, but
the Stamp-office, which acts according, I suppose,
to its own discretion. I don't know who .advise them.
They are the Executive in fact.—(Hear, hear.) They
are now singling out some small publications,
leaving:licat othersions,and h
" that
are pdroewci;ndbyythste same thing them,
thing untouched. Within
a short time three or four publications, published monthly
at a penny, most respectable publication, giving a very
useful record of the facts of the month, have been inter-

fered with by the Stamp-office. There was a little paper
called the Norwich Reformer, published monthly, and a
letter came to the publisher from London, telling him
that he was publishing a column of news, and wanting
to know what he had to say why he should not be pro-
secuted. Well, as an hon. friend of mine said to me,
" he'died of fright."—(Laughter.) But that is not so.
Lin did not die spark out; but, after some controversy
with the Stamp-office, he brought his little publication
out without the most interesting part of it, namely, the
column of news.—(Hear, hear.) Then there was an-
other, the Stroud Observer, which was a most respect-
able paper, in the hands of most respectable people,
doing a vast amount of good, as I am informed, having
attained a circulation of 17,000, only published once a
month, and not coming into competition with any daily
or weekly newspaper, and circulated mainly amongst
the working-clas,es. Down came a letter from the
Stamp-office to ask why this gentleman should not he
prosecuted for issuing unstamped news?--(Hear.) He
wrote a letter, expressing no wish to break the law, and
promised that he would not persist in publishing the
paper if the Stamp-office would forego the prosecution,
and that bargain was agreed to. But I say, if the prin-
ciple is right, they are bound to carry the thing on.—
(Applause.) They must say, " We, mean to stamp all
the monthly publications that contain any news. Stamp
all or none; let us have no favour, no privilege; and,
above all, let us have no censorship of the press at So-
merset-horse in the Strand."—(Applause.) A prosecu-
tion, as we were publicly informed by one•of the Minis-
ters (the Under-S'cretary of State,. I think) last session,
is about to take place against Mr., Charles Dickens.—
(li[ear, hear.) And for what? For publishing a work
'called The Narrative of Current Events—a most excel-
lent periodical, containing a compendium of the news of
the month. This prosecution is about to go on; and if
they succeed in carrying a verdict against Mr. C. Dickens,
all the other monthlies must look about, fur the Stamp-
office cannot then stop and allow the law to be broken
by so many with impunity as it now is. On these very
grounds, because it is administered with such in-
equality and irregularity, I think the stamps on,,
newspapers ought to be abolished.—(Hear, hoar.)
I have thrown out these few observations as concerning
matters that I should be glad to advocate in our finan-
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stand where it does.—(Cheers.) We advocate a large
extension of the franchise, a better distribution of the

lectoral power, an abolitiOn of that system which enables

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little corrupt boroughs to have as much power in the
Legislature as boroughs like Manchester and Liverpool
and Leeds.—(Hear.) I suppose that at the present time
it is considered that every man who presumes to have
an opinion on public affairs should be able to say ex-
actly what should be done with the Roman Catholic
hierarchy.—(Laughter and applause.) I am not so far
advanced on this important branch of political knowledge
as perhaps many others, although I have read a fair
supply of arguments, of logic, and of declamation upon
the eubject in the papers,—nearly the whole press has
been teeming with " No Popery." Occasionally I
fancied I was reading the Morning Herald, from the
tone of the leading article, and,-making a minute exa-
mination satisfied me that the paper I had hold of was
the Times.—(Laughter.) In fact, the whole of the
London morning press, with some orae exception, seem
to me to hare taken views which—no doubt quite
sincerely and with great talent—the Morning Herald
has been taking on this subject for some time past.—
(Hear, hear.) Now, what is to be done, people say,
with the Roman hierarchy?—(A Voice—" Let them
alone.") A gentleman came to me in London and asked
me to sign a memorial which was going about against
the Roman Catholic bishops. I said, " It is an impor-
tant matter, especially for an M.P., to commit himself to
a public document of this kind; pray what is your
ground for asking me to sign it?" " Oh," he said,
" you must really join; every man who is loyal, or who
is not indifferent upon religious matters, must join. The
time is come; we can stand it no longer; we must join
in checking the progress of the Catholic power in this
country," which ha considered would be materially
beneqted by the episcopal organization.—(Laughter and
ulcers.) My reply was this—" I am a staunch Protes-
rant; but tell me in what way these Roman Catholic
bishops will interfere with my civil liberty—(Hear)—
with my religious opinions—(Hear, hear)—or with my
Purse.—(Loud cheering.) Don't you think it might be
wise for people to mind their own affairs, and look
after their own bishops?"—(Cheers.) The fact is, gen-
tlemen, I really am quite at a loss to know what to do
with what is called the Roman Catholic hierarchy except
to let it alone.—(Cheers.) There may be some pet
scheme hidden in the recesses of Downing-street, but,
as far as I am capable of judging, I am quite at a less
to know upon what ground a country which professes to
have adopted the principle of religious liberty, to be pro-
gressing towards the abolition of the word "ascen-
dancy," and the repudiation of the word " toleration"—
(Cheers)—a country which professes to ask for religious
equality—upon what rule can such a country make the
Roman Catholics an exception to the rule?—(Hear,
hear, and cheers.) If the Roman Catholics were to
cpme to Parliament and say, "The head of our Church,
the Pope, has given us bishops, and we ask you to give
these bishops legal recognition—powers by law to en-
force their jurisdiction," then I should say that such a
demand must be visited with the most strenuous oppo-
sition.—(Cheers.) But if amongst themselves they sup-
port those dignitaries by their own voluntary contribu-
tions, having no jurisdiction except such as the free
will of the English Catholics choose to accord them,
then I say that it is extremely difficult, without violat-
ing those principles of religious equality on which I am
prepared to take my stand—(Cheera)---to bring forward
any legislative enactment bearing upon it the stamp of
disability upon religious grounds. The American papers
seem to wonder what is the matter with us.—

At Wootton there is a greyhound weathercock.
Two lads passing by, one said—" I should think yon grey-
hound, though good at a turn, and well winded, tries in vain
to catch his prey." "And if so," replied the other, "he does
not need to be unhappy, for he has plenty of fresh air every
morning for breakfast, is an excellent pointer, and the moat
exalted dog in the neighbourhood."

(Laughter.) A correspondent of one of them wants to
know whether the nature of the demand of the Roman
Catholic bishops was that they should share in the
temporalities of the Church—(Laughter)—for he though t
there must be more, in order to create such a burst of
what is called indignation, than the mere attempt to
carry out amongst themselves their own ecclesiastical
discipline.—(Hear, hear, and applause.) I am afraid
that the Church party, who feel that their time is
coming—(Hear, hear, and cheers)—think it good policy
to get us into a quarrel with the Pope, in order that they
may be safe.—(Hear, hear.) I contend that it is in the
direction of our own Church, in the direction of that
" ascendancy" principle, that we have to turn our atten-
tion.—(Cheers.) If we allow ourselves to be carried
away by these bewilderments, and be contented with
hunting a red herring instead of a real fox—(Laughter)
—then we are not using those political advantages of
which we are possessed to the best account.—(Hear,
hear, and cheers.) But this question involves many mat-
ters important to this country. If you make a retrogade
step with regard to religious equality, it is not clear
that you may not do so in civil and commercial freedom.

—(licar, hear.) The same principle of injustice is at
the bottom of political economy, commercial monopolY.
and religious monopoly.—(Lear, hear, and cheers.)
Favouritism to class against class is at the bottom of all
these monopolies; and we should combat the ascendancy
principle, whether wo find it in religion, in politics, or in
"Damcrec•—(Cheers.) It was the desire to favour a
few which lay at the root of the support of the corn-
law; it is the desire to maintain favour and privilege in
a class that creates such opposition to the extension of
the franchise; and it is the desire of maintaining prin-
ciples of ascendency in the Church that roused this
animosity against the Roman Catholics.—(Hear, hear.)
I hope, therefore, whatever course I may feel it my duty
to take in Parliament upon this question, that you will
believe I am actuated by a sincere desire to carry into
practical legislation those principliiii of religious
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thee; is gradually assuming an impor ettf; ' .hitinsteee. •7:----'1,,„
pabfic mind.—(Applause.) It is a city eintS aiinette wale% e] 7tei
)
most honest and intelligent men, 1 eleininhdasY wit- ',.-;t.,?
qtselans.goold do not otot dmiffe.a.rh.
tlhtaits nitrAii.‘so....pite;ticiii;i•eans ,sirilet .
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everybody is better for. being educated ; let eteempin-e--'
•
considering the peculiar ' circontsteuces' in fetch "thtliekr
country is placed with regard to some of its. instita-
tiomi,
I can admit that every honest and intelligent
man can differ hS to what should he • done upon this
question of education ; but now in Manchester the right
thing is going forward, because every conceivable shape
p
,
aaseeeeseesseeesease. of the question is being looked at and discussed.—(A-
the social happiness of all in this country.—(Lond
plause.) One party brings out a scheme which has too
cheers,) Error may reign. for a time; but let us combat much Church in it—(Laughter)—but I believe they can-
error with truth, and in the long run truth will van-
nut agree about it themselves, therefore,it is not at all -
quish error.—(Cheers.) It is better to risk the tempo- likely that they will persuade other people to take at. •
racy success of error than to encounter the dangers of Another patty brings out another scheme, whicb, al-
religious persecution. -- (Hear.) What a monstrous
though it noes not moons many person's views—aad con-
straining of gnats and swallowing of camels does it ap-
•
scieatious,views—must be admitted by all to be perfectly
pear to be that the people should rest contented that the equal to all; and therefore it -is a very important thing;
—Mean hear)—and leaving looked.at . this question of ,
Roman Catholics should sit in Parliament and make
edireation with 'green interest for a long
,period, I em
laws for them, and yet tell us that the Roman Catholics
-
owe allegiance to a foreign potentate, and that they are bound to say, that if any man admits that through any
actuated by a desire to servo that potentate, and agency of taxation, and through any municipal control e
not the Government of the countr in which 'or management, educational institutions are to be. eats- ,
they live, and become frightened out' of their blished wore widely in this cou.ntry,l have no doubt ;
senses when the Roman Catholics merely change whatever that the only plan that can be received aed
vicars-apostolic in bishops.—(Laughter and applause.) acted upon without doing's real violence to the coneciene
I have perfect confidence in the sound policy 'and times convictions of many, will be something like.the plan )
wisdom of acting consistently upon the broad principles which is laid before the public in-that which is now 1
of religious equality. Under those principles I believe believe, called the National Public School Association.
truth will triumph, and a greater amount of individual —(Loud and prolonged applause.) 'There is another
and collective happiness will be secured than under any} thing going on in Manchester which deserves a word et
principle of ascendency which the ingenuity of man • comment, and that is the very admirable project which I ,
could devise.—(Tremendous cheering.) ' . believe bah, been supported by the present may or—it has
Mr. DYER and ./Jr. ALEXANDER HENRY having ad- certainly twee carried out mainly through his influence
dressed the meetings . . end his exertions—for the establishment of ra• public •
Mr. J. Milani', M.P., rose next, amid, loud and pro- library upon the most liberal and universally catholic.: •
longed cheering. He said—When I materiel the room iPrinciplee.—(Applause.) Wel!, I think that the present .:
to-night I was a little puzzled to know whether the mayor, when he descends from his municipal throne, how- , -
meeting was to be more social or political; but on look-
ever long he may live, may look back to his mayoralty
ing around upbn those who are present, and observing 1 with very great satisfaction, when he refers to tied re- •
fl
those who entered after I entered, I found out of neces-
eets upon this most admirable institution, which he has
sity, let it'be as social as we will, ie could not bo other- . been chiefly instrumental in fqunding,—(Elear, 'wan)
wise than highly political. After all, I agree very mach But look et that question a little wider; is signifies that
with what has been said by Mr. Dyer,. who is not by the pressure of isle, and the ascendancy of thee-dab is
any means a dull observer of what is passing around
all gone, never to corns}-a(Applause.) There is
him, that, although there is what is termed a lull in
. no party in. Manchester egainst - that 'public library.—
And, comparieg ouretatvps wito3
political affairs, people are nevertheless thinking of the (APPlattec.) 10, there
past, and are anticipating something for the future. . I is not' very much intolerance here now. We have had it
tasted lately.—(Applause.) There haa been an attempt, , •
suppose that mations are in these matters somewhat as
individuals aro—that, after any great exertion and great to frighten tho country out of its propriety. 1 latneve an
tnaa. ...tt en r
excitement, the people requies, at least it will ;have the cockneys have been vary. much frightened—'' ~ -
something likes quiescence tor a time. Now, if we ►lool: (Langiner)-e-I mean the parochial mind of the various .
divisions of London.. But now let us see what has been
back for the ten years from 1840 to 1850, I do not think
any of us can eety that the Liberal party, or that portion • the state of feeling in Lancashire and Yorkshire. .Be-
of the people who wishes political reform, has been ginning with Hull—the most eastern of the large towns
idle, or that ills labours have been unproductive.—
of this district—the most important and widelyeeircue t
(Hear, hear.) For, surely from 1840 to 1846, so far -
lated paper in that town has altogether repudiated the •
.
:against
attempt to raise up a bigoted and fanatical e'er as we were concerned, we did our full share in keeping
the country in the greatest possible tumult of discus- the free exercise of the Catholic religion in this country.
sion, which ended at 'last; in 1846, in securing pro- Go to Leeds. A paper there of the largest 'influence
bably, as far ast the material interests of the people are and circulation—by tar the largest influence and eirculs.-
concerned, the greatest victory 'which the people of this tion in Yorkshire—has given no countenance to this at- •
country have t ichieved over..) Then we must bear in class interest during the tempt. And I must say; that of all the speecheslthat •
present contu ree—(Applause
have been delivered upon this question, Lthink a speech • delivered by Mr. Baines, the editor of ,that paper; at , a •
mind that after this great exertion, and immediately after
was the most true to the point
it,- there came circumstances of ' a very calamitous na-
meeting of the ministers and friends of the Baptist and
'
ture to a Large portion of , the people, especially of the Independent churches,
middle deices; there came the commercial disasters of of any that I have read.—(Applause.) Well, thee, cross
the borders of Yorkshire and coma to Manehestet. ;.You .
1847 and 1848,by which nottonly distress was serious in
have two papers hero of very 'large circulation; and,in
almost all channels of mercantile undertakings, but also
more widely than common on account of the vast invest- their respective walks no • doubt .a£ agent .influence ;
meats which that people had, perhaps unwisely, made in neither of them has given any count ance to, thistin- -
tolerant cry, and one of- them has !very baldly and re-
improving the eeemmunications throughout the country.
I find very earnest men expressing discontent that we solutely opposed it.—(Cheers.)- Go on to Liverpool,
are not going ton so &Win 1350 and 1851 as we ap- r and you find the papers there of chief circulation and
peered to be in 1845 and 1846. Now, lam a very ear- chief influence have ta.keirthe same tone that had been
•
nest man in my political convictions, and lam as anxious taken by the papers in Manchester. Well, lam free to
probably as any man living that we should be constantly argue from this, and do argue fro it, that all this at-
making
tempt to disturb the pUblic mind-.all this attempt to
some progress, and. as rapid progress as is
the finger or acorn' at millions .of our fellow-
withconsistent with a full discussion of public questions, and point
. countrymen that differ from us in religibn—(Applause)-- •
a settlement of them,upon the basis of an intelli
that all this hue failed among the' 3,000,000 of the po-
gent public conviction;
,and with this opinion and with
these feelings, -I am bound to say that on looking over puletion of this kingdom that inhabit tae counties .of e
the present calm which appeara to 'exist I can detect, I Lancaster and Yotk.—(Loud cheers.) _ I do not ler.ow .
think, signs that we are not going backwards, but that, how it is, but there is some fatality about two things
in point of fact, we are ' gradually but certainly
that the people of this country have been discussing for
•:
gathering strength for future progress and for fu- generations past—corn and: Catholics.—(Laughter.) i
tare successes- The, surface appears very smooth; This time last year there was almost a'terror about corn. . .
but who , will I deny ' that 'in these days of calm, Some people d•own here were afraid that corn was goirig k
opinionsare being created, and former convictions are to be shut out; and the-'squires wire, making a great
sinking deeper and deeper, and men.whom we know no- disturbance about, not the,Papal,' but !Ow-corn af,,,gres- v
thing of--whom we never' see in t public—by the discus- sion. It is about 500 'years ago that ;there was-ac's .r tof .
sions which' ern going on in the ne%vspapers tend through Parliament—not, I believ:,, a very regular one—held at •
the press—ate gradually unravelling 80111.3 of those mys- Kilkenny, where English interests -very rh•uch preponde- •
rated. They passed what' hes beeti+called the Statute:Cf
series in which ,ave have hitherto dwelt, and are becoun
ing more alive tt• the necessity of those changes which Kilkenny—a law by which they) made it penal, in a
we believe to be .inevitable. My own experience leads
high degree, for an Irishman's 'horse to graze upon•an •
to this result, that since the repeal of the corn-law in Englishman's landee-(Laughter.)- Now, from that time
1846, there has been an extraordinary advance in poll- to this, there has hardly ever been a session of Perlin-
tical opinion among a large class who before that period went when this question oft Catholics has nett been
thought we were a most .dangerous end almost treason- brought up; and old women of -',lidth'sexes—(Lteghter)
able sot of men.; I believe the repeal of the corn-law —in all parts of the country,. have been frightening ,
itself—showing how public opinion becomes omnipotent, themselves to death Meant this d'apal aggression. . Noir, ,
I have got a receipt myself to pet an end to,lear on this
and the fact that the result of that repeal has been to
account. It is a remarlfrebly &Maple one. •But you find
justify all our predictions—(Hear, hear, and cheers)—
that men who have been' brought up to • certain profes-
and to add enormously to the wealth of the country and
stony—tire medical protestiod for . eximPleeatheeedon't
to the comfort of the people—has led thousands of men
to review their political position, and to come to the heave in the virtues of cold•water, they don't believe in •
'
very safe conclusion that they have been labouring under the virtues of any simples—l was going to mention
delusiOns upon iholitical questions, pinning themselves to something very dreetifulttipti give nowtend then;- but
ld, judices rind to old creeds; and that, in point of -
they deal in somethinet ''
hat is sere to be poisonous if fen ' .* " • ''' -'
pAFe
fact, it is high time they should tali° me 'Something new tskaanuch of it. Nowt' have something very simple to
and something wiser, or they will be left entirely behind receniMend, and it is not the, QUentranntipreintteetrinir-t eteeetnt nee" ettt
in the progress of public opinion. This progress is not'tho Prime Minister's letters; it is not that inde- _ ....._
going on quietly and in this calm is not seen; wo do not scribable twaddle which the bishops of the Established
observe the forgnation of opinion; but when there comes Church, to their intellectual disgrace, have been writing.
a violent and tumultuous action. then wo see all at —(Prolonged applause.) If it were a question of Intel-
once that great progress is being made. But that action lectual supremacy, why I should tambto for the Church,
itself can hardly' ever come, or if it does come, it can of England.—(Laughter and cheers.) A very excellent
hardly come bumpily to the country, unless before it Churchman, a friend of one of the archbishop's, speaking
there had been this calm inquiry, this gradual but ad- to me only the other day about Cardinal Wiseman's
mirable contemplation which I believe is going on now epistle and of what the bishops had written, said, " I
upon public questions, and whereupon only any safe le- thoroughly believe that if the bishops had set their cooks
gislative action can be fairly based. Let ur, for a me- to work as a committee to draw up all their addresses to
ment, when we are attempting to despond, recollect that their clergy, they would not have been muck loss dis-
there are thousands of agencies of progress at this md- creditable to them than they have been."—(Laughter.)
went afloat—agencies which tend to improve the phy- Well, but now for my receipt. This thing which men
sical and intellectual condition of the people and to raise call Popery—as I think the Dean of Bristol, in a speech
their moral tone. We are in the midst of all those agen- that did him great honour—said, is not confined to the
cies which are e3nding to improve the condition of the Catholic Church.— (Hear, hear.) It is to be found,
people of this country, and we are too apt to fancy that piebably, more or lesa in almost every Church; and it is
there is no motion and no progress whatever. Now, I that which we should guard against—it is the giving up
have been reading within the last few days a book just our own intellect and our own consciences into the hands
published in this town, written by our excellent friend of any limn, or any body of men.—(Applause.) It takes
Mr. Prentice—(C hanra)—containing historical sketches a more offensive ehtspe in one Church, probably, than
and personal recollections of Manchester and its popu- another; but the Church of England, while it repudiates
lation since the year 1792. Now, Mr. Dyer has spoken the doctrine of authority on which the Church of Rome
of the year 1810; it is a marvellous thing his living rests, has not got the courage to adopt the other theory
—Wear, hear)—and to take the principle of free to tell us of that year, Beading over the first few
in-
chapters of this book, we find that people who live quiry as its basis.—(Cheese.) Now, my prescription is
this—that we should not attempt in any way whatever
now in Manchester are not at all.of tho same race as
those who lived here in 1810. What was the Mao- to control opinion—(Hear, hear)—but that we should
not ,encourage among
cheater Exchange then on a market day? It was all duties of the people that
an assembly of national beings like the great majority of sound and healthy constitution of mind by
those who now .assemble there ; but the concourse was which they will be able to discern and to de-
composed of a ,number of men who held priciples of terruine for themselves, and by which they will be
Church ascend:my of a most furioue and bigotted cha- instructed enough to repudiate and repel every effort
ranter. They wore actuated by a sentiment of the of every priest ef. every Church that shun endeavour to
Most brutal and cruel nature which they called loyalty. take from him that liberty which the Now Testament
They wore in favour of war to a degree which you were worthless if it did not inculcate.—(Applause.)
would not expect to find among any tribe of savages— And with regard to this question, let us never forget
(Applause)—and it is mere akin to the character of the that there is a country, three or four hours' sail from us,
jungle tiger than to that of an. Englishman—(Loud up- which we call_ part of the tame empire,. inhabited by
plause)—and in their political partisanship they were so 7,000,000 persons acknowledging the Roman Catholic
ferocious that excellent, worthy, and intelligent men, religion ; men who have hadguaranteed to them, if
g u
who held opinions in favour of reform of any kind what- anything can guerantee in such a manner, as full liberty
cover, were, many of them, forced to leave the town, to worship tte we possess who are not of their Church.
settling in other towns whore political feelings did not And let us bear in mind that fur hundreds of years one
run so high. And some men who have lived since to groat department of oar legislation has been directed to
distinguish themselves above most men among whom the sole object of exterminating that religion ; and yet
they have lived, left this district and settled in the in spite of all the parliaments and monarchs, queens'
United States of America.—(Applause.) From 1790 supremacies, and prime ministers' letters could do, Ca-
to 1820 may be considered the dark age of modern times. thecliem has gradually and certainly submerged every
It was positively a reign of terror in Manchester . county. Cromwell planted Tipperary ; the northern
to be a dissenter was to be only some verminous animal
counties were planted by English and Scotch ; in whole
upon which high churchmen and the loyal and patriotic districts of that county there was to be found a majority
men, who shouted— of Protestants; but there is no majority of Protestants
" Britons never shall be slaves," to be found in any county of that country at this moment.
thought they might trample with impunity. To speak 300 years ago Bacon said,:" Let us not try to put down
in favour of reform of any kind was to be prosecuted; Cetholism in Ireland by persecution ; but let as erY -
and Church-and-King mobs assembled with impunity, to make Catholicism by Protestantism." If that- had
broke the windows of a Liberal newspaper-office, pelted been done, assuming Protestantism to be better and
the editor, demolished his property; and I think about purer than Catholicism, why, I have not a sharl°w of a
would tact
180 or 190 publicani in Manchester signed a solemn doubt, if the world is not intended to roll backwardso
the Catholl'n-
t'
their minds
- stead of forwards, that at thtiesstamnetlean
declaration that they would not have any of those pesti
lent reformers of any kind whatever iu their tap-rooms of Ireland had not become Protestants'
and itfhe Y
or bar-parlours, and that they would not even sell them least not have abhorred Pro
,„euiry upon t e uestien
anything to drink, or give them any kind of entertain.. would have been open to free :,:ny other countl.
ries, and
went whatsoever.--(Laughter.) Now, that mad spirit of religion, as Catholics are
ieillra extent -
in the United
went on up to 1820; and about then was the time when as they decidedly are to
ii
, looking, then, at these points
We may observe a turning of the tide. War—all its States of America. IV- With regard r rred to the population
consequences—were then telling upon the country, and to which I have re •oen- ,-t admit for a moment that we are
telling very much upon the population in this town and of this district, I" , belier. ___
e WQ made a good and a great
in this district. In 1819 was the celebrated meeting going backwardifih:and that since that period men's
about which we have all heard accounts since we were step four ,Y
"cc:Seco:110 released f
children, when the people were not permitted to petition minds ha;:rom many pre
judicerom many superstitions,
quietly for Parliamentary reform or for a repeal of the looseneds and false theories; that
corn-law. But 13 years after that—not a very long all classes of Society
there's in a more harmonious and
time
cordial feeling, and that the tranauillity which we see .
the Reform Bill• was passed; six years after that the ,
es not the political apathy which it is described to be—is
Anti-corn-law League was in operation; and eight yearse 1
slot the apathy of d
i erenee to whatever belongs to
after that, that great ..Bille the Corn Bill of •1815-"tben. the true interests of
o. the country, hut is a state of things
Bill which really was " the foundation of England's l'ff during which •
veer.--opinion is being formed, and out of which
perity"—which gave everybody wages that had toe
of our will come— when
that Bill which was really the foundation-stone
re.
co__
further action, gaining still more and still greater
modern constitution, was actually and Parqtvher we .
, that wi m a victories for the people of this country.—(Loud cheers.)
pealed.—(Laughter.) Now, I man"' and in fact M •
1790, r. Gibson made an observation in which I coincide.
period to which I have referred, from have gradually
this country lie thought if the Government were statesmen—wise
from 1810,—the people of
that at this moment there
statesmen—they would take such an opportunity as this
accomplished a revolution, and
ffbie_
h have had two or I of doing things which really they can do now, I believe
are countries one could point se .
o,t savage and sanguinary andwithout difficulty. There are questions of economy in
three revolutions of the in of
had all sorts constitutions; and which we are driving them as fast as possible. The Pro'
violent character, and has occurred there
a more en- gross in that direction is not all we could wish; bat the
- -
yet I don't believe there
and in their • • the direction
opinions and tide has been turned; instead of running in
tire change in their position
which they upon act, than may be of expenses, it is running in the direction of economy;
in the principles of this count • from tasted not only the
traced in the career
wishes he hadry that period up and I hope Sir Charles Wood, having
t sweets of being able to male,
to this. jkir. Dyer . not given that money perplexities, but the great
_now, Ido not wish it at all---(Laughter)—fcr the remissions of taxation, will come to the conclusion that
Reform Bill; of course, not that he wants the money, if he could, while trade is improving and the country
but be thinks it might have been laid out better— becoming more wealthy, also diminish expenses, he
that is it. Well, I am in favour of the Reform Bill might, lot* teseions to come have it constantly iu his
and lam in favour of many of its results; and I ower to make remissions a taxes, i I not to the extent
think that one great 'result has been that it has given that he will be able to do this year, at least to an ex-
to Lancashire and.-. Yorkshire, and to the iudustrthat will be sensibly felt among the people. Now.
y tent
and intelligence of those two coun • ties, a position in with regard to making „Teem during tranquil times, it
the councils and in the Government of this empire requires statesmansaiP of the highest order to do it. Any
which they could not well have had if that Bill had
not man can concede at the demand of tumult, it does not mat-
passed.—(Cheers.) Why, before 1832, Manchester was I ter whether it be the Duke of Wellington and Sir Robert
virtually ignored ; it was not considered anything. Peel on Catholic Emancipation, or whatever question
There are very large towns that now send Members to is before them, or however much men may have opposed
Parliament that Lord Grey
.had never heard of when it. Somehow or other, when the attitude of the people
he was drawing ip`a list of new boroughs that were to becomes threatening, every man can give up, and by
giving up for a time he can pacify. But there are few
be enfranchised. It is true Manchester was not one of
those, nor yet Birmingham, bat positively neither of loon who can take occasion of a time like this, and bring
them was allowed to say anything except by petition, I forward well adjusted, judicious measures—measures, it
and now and then when the people, goaded on by mad- may, be, that do not meet the views of the extreme men
, ness which their 'sufferings used, protested in the on either side, but measures which unite so large a pee-
lshape of some inelPient insurrection. -But to look at tion of public sentiment sad opinion in their favor th a

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