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London, England, 1833-08-27 00:00:00

SEA APPRENTICESHIP BILL.

Lord WYNFORD thought that this Bill was not cal-
culated to effect the objects intended, and suggebted that
the Bill should be allowed to drop for the present session.
The Duke of RICHMOND thought that it was lite
to enter into the discussion of the subject during the
present session ; he would therefore cancel both proposi-
tions of the Noble Lord, and drop the Bill for the pre-
sent session.

The order of the day for the presentation of the repor
was discharged.
TITHES STAY OF SUITS BILL.

Lord WESTERN presented several Petitions from
Cumberland and Yorkshire against the Tithe Stay of Suits
Bin.

Lord WYNFORD observed that the bill only staye,
actions until the next Ses,inn.

The Bishop of LONDON concurred in that statement,
but be begged the House at the same time to remember
that it cast a stain on all the clergy who had brought
them. He trusted their Lordships would not allow
the Bill to go to a second reading, and could not
but express his surprise at the commendation,
given it by the law officers of the Crown. He thought
that after the rights of the clergy had been so re-
peatedly acknowledged by the first legal authorities,
it was rather too much for the Legislature to step in and
stop those rights for a whole year. He had risen for the
purpose of offering to their Lordships a few observations,
relivive to the situation of a great body, to whom his
lasting gratitude was due—Trinity College, Cambridge.
He believed that the greatest number of suits had been
brought by them as the lay impropriators of the parish of
Kendal, and he could show that great injustice would be
done if the Bill were to pass. The rectory of Kendal
was granted by Queen Elizabeth to Trinity College,
Cambridge, and various leases had been granted from time
to time of some parts of the parish to several landowners,
but recently the leases had been all united into one.
Gi eat uncertainty seemed to prevail in the settle-
ment of tithes in a parish of so large an extent.
Some years ago the College filed a Bill to ascer-
tain the various claims of moduses, and upon a
hearing the Vice Chancellor decreed in favour of the Col-
lege on all the points.—(Hear.) An appeal had been
made to the present 'Vice Chancellor, who affirmed the
greatest portion of the decree of the Vice-Chancellor, and
the question had also recently been tried at the Assizes,
and a verdict, establishing the claim, was obtained.—
(Hear. hear, hear.) It was then endeavoured to
obtai❑ the assent of all the tithe payers in the parish
to those decisions, but some of them had refused. The
plaintiffs were comp, lied by Lord Tenterden's Bill to issue
subpsenas to persons in the parish to ascertain their rights
as lay impropriators, and in the midst of those proceedings
cause this Bill to su,pend all the suits. The defendants
would hereafter have to pay their tithes in kind, and the
greater part of them would retain to their own use those
tithes which had been already decided to be due, unless
the House of Commons should think fit next year to let
the law resume its course. The present Bill would be
productive of the grossest injustice if it were permitted to
pass.

- Lord WESTERN did not see how this Bill would
at all interfere with the rights of the parties; whereas
the suspension of the suits till next Session, when the
irritation respecting tithes would be much lessened, would
operate beneficially to the interests of the Church.

Lord WYNFO-RD deprecated the measure aeon: which
in many instances would annihilate, and in all other cases
materially prejudice the just right of the plaintiffs, in
consequence of the probable deaths of parties before the
suspension of the suits were terminated.

The Church Buildings Bill went through a Committee.
Lord WYNFORD was convinced that the number of
suits commenced had been greatly exaggerated. All the
wonder was, that there had not been more. He was per-
suaded that there were not moie than between three and
four hundred suite, although the number of benefices was
ten thousand. He was at a loss to conceive on what prin.
ciple of justice a man could be prevented going on with a
suit which the law authorized. Why had not the Bill
been sent to them at an earlier period of the session, when
they would have had time to consider it ? A number of
cases were quite ready far trial. Under all these circum-
stances, he felt that he should only do his duty to the
clergy of England by moving, as an amendment, that the
I3ill be read a second time that day three months.
The LORD CHANCELLOR allowed that the Bill was
liable to man); objections; as, for instance, the case of
Kendal, which had been described by a Right Rev. Pre.
late, was one to which it ought in no way to apply. But,
although it was impossible to deny this, yet, if the ac-
counts were not exaggerated to a degree to which it was
hardly possible that exaggeration would venture to go, a
vast amount of bills had been tiled, or rather proceedings
taken with a view to file bills, and suits commenced, in
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tion whatever. That would be a great grievance. The pro-
vision Was meant for the security of the rights of the church,
and if it were thus abused, the abuse must be looked at with
with great sorrow, and with a desire to find some other
remedy for the evil. He was far, however, from saying
that it was an easy matter to see the way clearly through
to justice. It the amount of cases was nut greater than it
Was said to be by his Noble and Learned Friend, then per-
haps it would be better that the Legislature should not