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London, England, 1834-03-21 00:00:00

LABOUR RATE.

The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition, signed
by every magistrate attending the last quarter sessions for
the western division of the county of Essex, praying their
lordships to re-enact the labour rate. The noble lord also
presented similar petitions from Sunninghill, in Berkshire,
and from Thame.
SCOTCH ENTAILS.

The Earl of ROSEBERRY gave notice that on Mon-
day next he should move for leave to bring in a bill rela-
tive to entails in Scotland.

SITTINGS ON APPEALS.

Lord ELLENBOROUGH, in moving that the re-
turns which had been ordered relative to the sittings
of their lordships on appeals should lie on the table,
said that he was quite sure it could not be the intention of
the noble lord on the woolsack, in the observations that
he had made the other night, with respect to the sittings
of their lordships on appeals, to hold out an inference that
he had worked much longer, and been assisted less, in
his sittings to hear appeals in that house. A notion
however of that sort prevailed abroad in consequence of
what the noble and learned lord had stated. If, however,
reference was had to the requns Which he then moved
should lie on the table, it would be seen that in the course
of the sittings of the noble lord on the woolsack, a some•
what greater period than that which Lord Lyndhurst sat,
be (the Lord Chancel'or) had sat 156 times, and been
assisted by other noble lords 44 days, while Lard Lynd•
burst had sat 169 times, and been assisted only 19 d iys.
It was dim right to mention, that in the course of one
session Lord Lyndhurst gat 65 days: that was a greater
number of days, according to the return, than any other
noble lord had ever sat during the course of one session. It
was right also to mention, in the absence of the noble
lord who had preceded Lord Lyndhurst, that lie had,
previously to the arrangement for the speedy disposal of
appeals, by the assistance of Lord Gifford, sat in 1821, 52
days. in 1822, 50 (Jaya, in 1823, 58 days, and although
assisted by Lord Gifford inilB24, he sat 48 days, in 1825,
45 days, and in 1826, 50 days.

The LORD CHA&CELLOR:said, that, what he had
stated on a previous evening, he had no intention whatever
(well knowing that he should be worsted if he did so) of
bringing himself into comparison with his predecessors.
He bad not had an opportunity of looking at the re-
turn to which the noble baron bad referred; therefore what
its numerical result might be, he could not sty. But he
did not shrink from comparison between the tints he had
sat and the period when Lord Gifford iv :s deputy speaker.
During the first year he had hal the honour of a seat i❑
that hous he hal certainly not sat fewer days than Lord
Gifford did in the year 1826. He thought it would be
found, on comparison, that he hal sat a greater number
of times. During the first session he (the Lord
Chancellor) had frequently continued to sit to hear
appeals after the adjournment of the house, and
.hot, too, between ten and eleven o'clock at night.
With respect to his noble predecessor, nothing was ever
fat then from his intention than to cast the slightest re-
flection upon the way in which he had conducted the
business of that house ; all that he had said was that he
(the Lord Chancellor) had never had the assist
ante of the regulat judges, which had been afforded
to Lord Lyndhurst. He had certainly had tl:e able
and ready assistance of the noble lord (Wynford)
without which he never could have got through the
business he had dune. There appeared to be one grew
fall icy,• boa ever, in those returns, which di I not seem t::
be well sera 01101%11. The cumber• of appeals at the

Lord ELLENBOROUGH said the noble and learned
lord had stated the facts of the case so far as he had
gone ; but from the return he saw then, he had
had the assistance of the late Lord Tenterden for IS d ,ys,
as well as that of Lord Lyndhurst for some other.
The LORD CHANCELLOR a id it was evident the
noble lord wis speaking upon a subject of which he was
utterly ignorant. Lord Tenterden had never sit one single
day except when the twelve judges did so. Those were
days when it was optional with the Chancellor either to
sit or not.

The Doke of CUMBERLAND complained that the
nobl, and learned lord had not done justice to the E irl of
Eldon in his statements, as there never was a session that
he had not sat to hear appeds.

The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had only alluded
to Scotch appeals, all of which during one session had
been heard by Lord Gifford.
The Earl of ROSSLYN slid a few words, which
were inaudible.

The Earl of RADNOR moved the first reading of the
Liverpool Disfranchisement Bill, and in doing so he
wished to state the course be intended to pursue with re-
gard to it, After the first reading he meant to move that
a message be sent to the Commons requesting that their
Lotdships might be furnished with copies of the reports of
three committees which had sat upon the subject in former
Parliaments, as also the reports of the two select com-
mittees which had sat upon the late Liverpool elections.
If noble lords would take the trouble of reading over
those reports, he was sure they would not require that
any more evidence should be heard at the bar of that
house. He further intended to move that the bill be read
a second time on Monday, the 28th of Autil.

Lord WYNFORD said he would never consent to take
rei.orts from committees of the other house, upon which
to found judicial proceedings in that house. If their
lordships should think that too much time would he con-
sumed by hearing evidence at the bar, they might semi
the whole of the disfranchising bills to committees up
stairs.

The Marquis of SALISBURY said that he could never
for a moment consent that the !loose should delegate its
judicial proceedings to auy committee up stairs. He
ousted the house would not on the present occasion de-
part from those precedents which had so often before
beeh acted upon.

Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought the 28th of April
was too soon to fix the second reading of the Liver-
pool Bill, as the Warwick one wAs fixed for the
24th of the same month..--(Hear.) The house could not
possibly have got through widi that one, and he thought
it would be better to finish one before bringing on an •
other.

The Earl of DURHAM saifl he could see no reason
for the house agreeing to the propasiti in of the noble
baron. The bills were very dissimilar, and he could see
no reason why the house could not proceed with both.
He now, for once in his life, bad the honour
of agreeing with the noWe lord opposite (Salisbury)
for if the house decided that further evidence should be
iaken upon that ci las of bills, he would never agree that
it should be taken before a committee with closed doors.
While he was :on his legs he wished to know what the
noble and learned baron opposite (Wynford) meant by Lis
notice of moving upon the second rea,fino of the Liverpool
bill.—Counsel he beard against it at the bar. He (Fail
D.) was not aware that any petition bad been presented
against the bill ; then did the noble and learn-A lord mean
to examine witnesses himself—there wire no parties
opposing the bill.
•

Lord WYNFORD said he meant to examine any wit-.
ness that appeared either for or against the bill. If the
pirties, who promoted the bill, did not send any evidence,
he c,uld not help it.
The Earl of RADNOR then moved that their bold-
ships be summoned for the 28th of April, and that a
message be sent to the commons for copies of the report,
which were agreed to, and the bill was read a first time.

Eal GREY presented a petition from Ashtou-under-
Line, praying that in any measure which might be intro-
duced for the relief of the dissenters, the interests of the
established church would be guarded. The noble earl
al,o presented a petition from the Protestant dissen-
ters of Suffield, praying to la,'; rdieved from the dis-
abilities under which they laboured ; and o petition
from Ipswich, praying that some legislative measure
might be introduce a for the better observance of the
Sibbith.—Laid on the tattle.
THE CAMBRIDGE PETITION.

The NORIA EARL then stated that he had now to
present a petition which appeared to him to deserve
the must serious and west attentive consideration.
The petition came from a number of members of the Uni-
versity of Cambridge, and who were also members of
the estab ished church, and it prayed that the dis
*enters might be relieved from one of the grievances
which they complained of, namely, that they should be
admitted to and enjoy the privileges of the University of
Cambridge—(Hear, hear.) With the prayer of the
petition, he need hardly state to their lordships, lie
when his opinions upon that subject had been repeatedly
expressed, that he entirely concured. He considered it a
great honor iti having the petition entrusted to his care.
and prayed for an object which appeared to him to be
just and reasonable in itself, and, if effected, would, in
his opinion, be eminently conducive to the interests of
the established church. The petition was signed by 63
members of the university. The in-tubers of the senate
generally amounted to between 170 and 190, and the pe-
tition was signed by more than two-thirds ; but there were
some who front wee or other infirmities did not take part in
the affairs of the senate, but many of them he understood
were favourable to the object of tee petition. The number
then was a considerable portion of the members of the
senate. Not more than one hundred and fifty had voted
upon any question brought before it. But if he could
state that the petitioners were respectable in point of
numbers he bad thegratification ot adding they were much
more so in point of talent and character. There were two
of the heads of the university, 10 professors, and 11 tutors.
Among the professors were men of the greatest eminence
and when he mentioned the names of professors, Bab-
bage, Lee, and others, he would be justified in sayieg
so. Alen who were distinguished in general know-
ledge, science, and excellent conduct in life. Amongst
the tutors were such as Peacock, Mozely, Fearo, and others,
and indeed the whole, professors, fellows, tutors, and
members of the senate were distinguished for their
talents and influence, and, :therefore, no petition could
come before their lordships that could be better supported.
It might be said that the petitioners had it not in their
power to make such a remonstrance to their lordships.
But even if nine-tenths of the University of Cambridge
had declared themselves favourable to an exclu'ive system,
he thought he (Earl Gtey) had stated enough to justify
the petitioners in the course they had pursued. In ord r
to show what their object was, he thought he could not
to better than read the petition which had been
most admirably drawn up, and required and me-
rited the favourable consideration of their lordships.
The petitioners expressed their attachment to the
church as by law established, and were well apprised of
the benefit which it conferred on the k ngdom. They
also t xpress-d their attachment to the discipline of
the university of Cambridge, which had contributed,
in such a material degree, to dr., 'piety and learning,
of the courvry. Strongly impressed with these considers -
dons, they submitted to that honourable house, that
no system ever pl inned by the wisdom of man Cu.:
be so perfect as not to require, fr atm time to time,
some modifications, arising faun change of circumstances
and times. They respect fully suggested that no corporate
ho ly like the University could exist in a free country,
lidless its benefits be communicated to alt classes the
people, as widely as might be compatude with the
principles of its foundation.—(Hear, hear, hear.),
die (Lard Grey) read those sentiinstes with strong feelings
of pleasure; they were the sentiments and views of mein•
',ern of the Established Church, and he felt happy in
!Laving hzt it in his power to state, in the
emphatic words of the petitioners, those feelings 0,
otichtneut to the es•eblishol church, which he was sure
voul I insure to th, m the favourable consideration of thee
ler ilnhips. It could nut lie supposed that persons actuated
uy such feelings would lend their assistance to any

leleassi e iv! ;eh ei si.' O e•:41)19. trent
hey were ',mild te '`•!. verition rr.,ee,led to
•ta to, that a Tunn.,.! the el,ail,,ts which they thought eriie, t
ad po d with a,' van rage to the Stan, they sul p 'teed
ex!ce:'en,y ri jsteitte every re,i2:enq they
whirls
wis re e • ary to tohke before prove e ling t r tl.a
mcs er, It:tele-ler, or doctor, in arcs, 'cr
.nediein . In pr i3irs for this they were on'y a Izi'ne fir
he restitution of their ancient laws and custetroi.
these restrictions had been imposed on t!ie
University in the reign of James the First,
and against the wishes of many of its members. They
had been imposed during the prevalence of dogmas at
variance with the true interests of relgion. He (Lord
Grey) thought this was a matter which required their
lordships serious attention ; because, what the petitioners
prayed for was not at variance with the original constitu-
tion of the university. It was to remove restrictions
imposed under peculiar circumstances.—(Hear.) Perhaps
their lordships would allow him to state shortly how the
,natter stood as regarded the constitution of the univer-
sity. Several acts bad been passed in the reigns of
Henry VIII., Edward VI., and Mary, and there was one
act (Elie. 12.), collecting all those statutes into a general
rule, under which that society was to be governed.
There was no mention in that statute of religious tests. It
was not until a subsequent period that these restrictions
were introduced. In the early part of the reign of James
1., in 1604, the convocation passed the canons ecclesi-
astic, and among these was the canon which enacted that
no persons should obtain the degree of bachlor or master,
in arts, law, or physic, unless he sbou'd subscribe
to the three articles contained in the 136th canon.
Their lordships would observe that this did not
extend to the degree of Batchelor of Arts, but
that that still remained open to any per-
son who received his education at the University.
but afterwards this was extended in a very singular way.
The petition stated that it was informal and unusual,
and he (the noble earl) believed it was in such
a manner as had never been known before.—(Hear.)
In 1,600 another doctrine was communicated to the
senate, which stated the substance of what passed
between the King and certain members of the
University.—Hear, hear, bear)—and in which the King
expressed his desire that in future not only should degrees
be granted, as stated in the letter which lie (the noble
Earl) had just quoted, to batchelors of divinity, and doc-
tors in divinity, law, and physic, but that no degree
should be granted to any person who did not subscribe to
the three articles of the thirty-six canon. This
was almost all that appeared. No degree should be
granted to any, except to these persons, from that time.
This practice had never been confirmed by any grace. It
was well known to be egainst the opinions of m iny of t! •
senate at th it time, and it was fair to presume that if thee
had been proposed now it would not have been adopter'.
This restriction had been adopted, probably, in consa
quence of that negative power possessed by the pa-
trons, who would have it in their power to protect
any degrees given. This practice continued from
the year 1041 to the Restoration, when, by a letter
of Charles the Second it was reviewd. and in the year
1772, some altertion was made, by which in receiving
the degree of Batchelor of Arts, it was tendered unneces-
sary to subscribe to the three articles in the thirty-
' tixth Canon, and it bring shown that the applicants
for the degree were bona fide members of the Church of
England. The operation of Vat was to exclude fritm the
Universities all persons who, not being of the Chu'ch
of England, could consistently subscribe the three a ticl s
of the 36th Canon, and it was chiefly for the removal
of that grievance that the petition prayed. In granting
the prayer of the petition, he (Earl Grey) did not
think any danger would be worked to the established
church ; on the contrary, he thought that great
benefits would be derived by the admission of persons
of character, wealth, and talent in the country, differing
from the established religion to the fruits of a learned
education, when they arrived at that period when it
would be natural for them to apply for those distinctions.
Nothing could be further from his wish or in-
tention than for their lordships to consent to this
petiticn, ze as to make it the means of increasing
the menthe's of the established church—(beat
hear)—but he would prove to their lordships, by
stating the names of men of considerable eminence,
that persons who bad gone to Cambridge as
Dissentess, and who bad received their education
there, had conformed to the Established Chute,
were now members of it, and were ni t the
le ist d'stinguished by their zeal and piety.
In the University of Dublin, in 1798, Catholics were
fitst admitted to take degrees. The granting of this
privilege was not objected to by any one but Dr.
Dygne, a man celebrated in the annals of religious
disputation. So far from weakening the established church
it bad rather a contrary effect in bringing many over to it
who were not before members of it. He was a strenuous
supporter of the object of this petition on all the grounds
he hail stated, and his conscientious belief was, that
many who dissent from the church, condemned:the violent
proceedings exhibited in some quarters ; and that they
took up the question not merely as dissenters, but as
members of the community, desiring equal privileges with
their fellow subjects. In conclusion, lie would oily say
that the names be had mentioned was a sufficient se-
curity that they would make no proposition injurious to
the welfare of the Church.—(Hear.) As a friend
to general liberty and to the church he trusted the peti-
tion would be well received.—To lie on the table.

The Duke of WELLINGTON rose and was left
peaktag.

Quarter past Seven.
We had not received the Gazette when we
were obliged to go to Press.

SIGNS OF THE TimES.—The newspapers
that pass through the Newport Post-office, are fifteen
times as numerous as they were twenty-fire years sp.—
Welshman.

THETITHEWAR.--THELADIES
A few days ago several rescues in cases of distress for tithes
occurred at a place called Kilrelen, near Headford. The
drivers of the Rev. Mr. Mara, of Headford, were beaten
off by one woman, and some sheep were rescued. The
men, eight in number, who during the contest stood 600
yards off—a most ungallant distance—as anxious spectators
of the doubtful battle, loudly cheered, on its triumphant
issue, in favour of the brave amazon, and for this cheering
propensity these same men were arrested on the same night
by the police. One man stood inside his door armed with
e pitchfork, and kept at bly fourteen armed police. A
young lad named Bohan, of the village of Carreens, con-
trived to sequester two sheep from the drivers' stock, and
was also suosequently arrested. All the delinquents ware
admitted to bail.—Tipperary Free Press,

EXTRAORDINARY ENCOUNTER BETWEEN
A RATTLE-SNAKE AND A time since the
master of a vessel bound to this port was bringing
time
dt bae
rsatti sting
not:.
e orderrepti I
et o
would
p
home with hint a rattle-snake of a rather large thze.
ascertainlnro diunc eh ad
we
a shortdeath, l e ap
put it into the cage with the snake, who darted on him,
and in something less than five minutes be was dead.
Some time after he was induced to repeat the experi.
went; but on the latter occasion the result was by no
means the same. On being placed in the cage the rat
retrea'ed to one extremity, and the snake, at the other,
having sprang his rattle (a process which usually occupies
about a minute) and placed ihimself in the usual attitude,
darted on the rat, who, having dexterously avoided his
assailant before he had 'hue to prepare himself for another
attack, had, in his turn, made such a fat ions assault on the
i
snake, which he seized by the back of the neck, that n
about ten minutes the reptile had ceased to exist, tt at it
never fur an instant having let go his hold till he had
strangled his formidable antagonist.—Liverpool Paper.

—ourOlu7odlapsrttsel‘'niteodnactlnstigexii,tratohre...
suddenly appeared at a great distance to the t,outh-west of
dei'nuaSnrtylrGyallpinpiteLLitriaiinFselen.ReiEgSAbb.baut nine o'clock an iinmen.e light
the town, and in a few seconds after another appeared in
an opposite direction; the signal was rapidly answered,
ind in less than four minutes after the fist appeared we
could within that short period count no less than 154.
lights in the direction of Cie King's County alone; the
signal tray taken up and no less rapidly answered through
the comities of Westmeath, Longford, Roscommon, Gal.
wiy, and even in the distant hills of the Queen's county,
all of which were distinctly visible from Ancnor's 'tower,
a hill which overlooks the town. Although groups were
but up ;assembled at several places through ttle town g,zing ~t
the spectacle, and giving their opinions on the saiject, no
one could say what the meaning of it was. NV e overhea!d
some !marking " that the Munn was come over to liub-
foolisha and
d others d
llirsees that
,lork. it was aII about /loam
lin with M. O'Connell;" others that " tithes were
knocked
We, however, mare
asiong several of the couutrypeople ye-tertlay,
and the result was what we believe ti be tie tart, tit-at'
the "lighting up" took place in consequence of the order
ce,"
a t all y:
iistottl by the Government for reducing the -yeomanry
corps of Ireland.—Athlone Independent.