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London, England, 1834-03-25 00:00:00

LIST OF THE MINORITY

Of Twenty (Teller included) whd voted against the Clause
directing the appointment of Nominees.
Attwood, T. Ewart, W. Sinclair, G.
Blackstone, W. S. Galway, J. M. Torrens, Colonel
Briggs, R. Halcombe, J. Walter, J.
Brothertoll, J. Hardy, J. Wason, R.
Bruce, Lord E. Hayes, Sir E. Wynn, C. W.
Chetwynd, W. Philips, M. TELLER.
Evans, W. Romilly, J. Aglionby, H. A.

LIST OF THE MA.I
Baines, E. MLeod, R.
Bush, T. Martin, J.
Brocklehurst, J. Murray, J. A.
Browne, D. O'Reilly, W
Buller, C. Palmer, C. F.
Burrell, Sir C. M. Peter, .
Elliott. Captain G. Plumptre, J. P.
Fremantle, Sir T. Pryme, G.
Gordon, R. Rolfe, J. M.
Hawes, B. Ross, C.
Inglis, Sir R. H. Russell, Lord J.
Jeffrey, Rt. Hon. F. Smith, R. Vernon

ORITI7

Stanley, H. T.
Strickland, G.
fancred, H. W,
Tennent, J. E.
Tennyson, C.
Tower, C. J.
Tracy, H,
Verney, Sir H.
Walker, C. A.

TELLER,
Rice, T. S.

LIST OF THE MINORITY

Of Twenty-four (Tellers included) who voted in favour of
Major Beauclerk's motion, to strike out of the Ordnance
Estimates 28,0001., being this year's instalment of 245,5051.
still remaining to be paid for completing the works of Nova
Scotia, Halifax Citadel, Kingston Fortification, and Mauri-
tius Citadel.

ENGLAND.
Aglionby, H. A.
Attwood, T.
Cobbett, W.
Evans, Colonel
Ewart, W.
Faithfull, G.
Fielden, J.
Humphery, J.
Hutt, W.

Rooe, W.
Ruthven, E. S.
Vigors, N. A.
Walker, C. A.

Kennedy, J.
Morrison, J.
Pease, J.
Phillips, M.
Potter, R.
TELLRES.
Scholefield, J. Beauclerk,
C.
, Major
Trelawney, W. L. S. Buller
Wason, R.
IRELAND,
O'Connell, D.

LOCKED OUT.
Brotherton, J.

FRENCH PAPERS OF SATURDAY.

CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, MARCH 21

The President communicated to the Chamber a
message from the Chamber of Peers, stating that
they had passed the law relative to the suppression
of majorats.
The adjourned debate on the law relative to poli-
tical associations was resumed.
MM. Dubois (Loire Inferieure) and Roger pro-
posed amendments to Art. 1, having for object
to except from the operation of the law religious as-
sociations. In developing their amendments, the
hon. deputies insisted upon the necessity of calling
religious sentiments to the aid of morality, in order
to awaken the poorer classes of the people from the
kind of lethargic indifference in which they are
plunged.
The Keeper of the Seals said he must oppose
the adoption of these amendments, which were al-
together unnecessary, if their object was to guaran-
tee the liberty of worship, for this liberty could in
no point of view be affected by the present project
of law, whereas the adoption of these amendments
would offer a dangerous facility of forming associa-
tions which, under pretence of encouraging religion,
might pursue political objects.
M. Dubois (Loire Inferieure), in reply to the
Keeper of the Seals, supported his opinion by a
quotation from a requisitoire pronounced by M.
Dupin as Procureur-General, at the Court of Cas-
eation, and in which M. Dupin maintained, in the
most positive manner, the right of association for
the purposes of religious worship.
M. Dupin quitted the President's chair, where
he was replaced by M. Etienne, and ascended the
tribune.

M. Dupin—Gentlemen, I rise to speak in con-
sequence of some observations which have been
made by an hon. deputy relative to my opinion. I
have never varied in my opinion upon the subject
now in question. I have frequently contended that
in a properly constituted state, and under a regular
government, revolutionary and subversive societies
ought to be subjected to the vigilance of authority
and the rigour of the laws. I have always main-
tained that the right of association was not an indi-
vidual right, like that of the liberty of the press and
of petitioning. The hon. deputy, in continuation,
said, that as for the most holy and simple of unions,
marriage, the sanction of the law was necessary,
with much greater reason ought it to be necessary
for more extended unions and associations of indi-
viduals. In my writings, added the hon. President,
and in my pleadings, I have always sincerely ex-
pressed my opinion upon that subject, and conse-
quently I cannot be accused of apostacy. I have,
therefore, never belonged to any association not
authorised by the law. The general rule I have
laid down ; as to the exceptions, my advice to you,
gentlemen, would be to be particularly on your
guard against associations formed for religious pur-
poses. It is in these societies that are to be found
secret machinations and ardent passions concealed un-
der the cloak of religion. After a brief historical sketch
of the political intrigues carried on in France under
the disguise of religious communities, the hon. pre-
sident added, religion serves as a shelter, a kind of
fortress, to four classes of men who form an impos-
ing majority in the country—the ignorant, the im-
becile—(Laughter)—the fanatic, and the ambitious.
I beseech you, if you do not wish to be again the
dupes of these people, who are skilful in wearing all
kinds of masks, and who affect at the present mo-
ment to be feeble and almost extinct, in order that
no attention may be directed to them—l beseech
you not to open a door to them, which, narrow as
it may be, will still be found sufficient to give en-
trance to all the enemies of government. After
some further objections chiefly directed against the
Jesuits, and describing their means of influencing
the head of the absolute government, he added, but
when they have to do with a constitutional govern-
ment, which is not influenced by a confessor, their

tactics are different. They no longer flatter those
in power, but, instead, calumniate them ; they preach
the overthrow of the government, and, instead of
calling for increased power to be given to the head
of the state, they demand the most absolute liberty
for individuals. Under a purely monarchical go-
vernment, you have congregations--under a free
government, like the present one, you have associa-
tions of the most ultra liberal and absolutely radical
nature.—(Applause from the centre.) Such, gentle-
men, are the considerations that I have been pro-
voked to submit to you, in consequence of the allu-
sion to the sentiments I had expressed on a former
occasion.

M. Odillon Barrot made a few observations in
favour of the amendment of M. Dubois, and con"
tended that not to adopt the amendment would be
to leave the liberty of worship at the mercy of the
authorities.

The amendment of Messrs. Dubois and Roger
were put to the vote and rejected.
M. de la Rochefoucault-Liancourt developed,
amidst a still-increasing noise, an amendment, the
object of which was to except from the operation of
the law charitable and benevolent associations.
The :amendment being put to the vote was re-
jected._ _

- M. Glais-Bizoin moved an amendment to except
literary and scientific associations from the operation
of the law. The hon. deputy thus began—The
project of law before you has been framed under the
inspiration of a nightmare.—(Loud and long-con-
tinued laughter.) The hon. deputy, in continuation,
said—The policy of the present ministry is a new
one, it is that which may be called k laid ideal.—
(Renewed laughter.) The hon. deputy (amidst fre-
quent interruption from the centre) continued to
criticise the acts of the Ministry, and said that he
could not help being astohished that the chief of the
Cabinet should have permitted such a law to be
brought forward. I do not mean (added the hon.
deputy) the phantom of a chief of the present Ca-
binet, but its real chief.—(Laughter and murmurs.)
The President—What do you mean by that ex-
pressio Cmatittitionally speaking, there is Do

other chief of the Cabinet but the President of the

Council.
M. Glais-Bizoin—l am astonished that such a
law is brought forward at a time when it is known
that children are punished for the faults of their
fathers.—(Murmurs from the centre.) Never have
I witnessed an instance of greater baseness.—(Vio-
lent exclamations.) From the commencement of
this debate, the benches of the Ministry have ap-
peared to me transformed into a pillory.—(New ex-
clamations.)
The Minister of Commerce—The expression is
an insolent one.—(From the centre, " Order.")
The President—l know not to what the Tribune
will be compared if such expressions are uttered
from it.
M. Glais-Bizoin attempted to continue, but was
called to order twice by the President, particularly
for having applied the epithet incurable to the
Ministry.
The President—You rose to speak upon an
amendment of a literary nature, but you have said
many things not precisely of a literary character.—
(Laughter.) I warned you that you were out of
order, but in vain. In conformity to the rules that
govern the discussions of this assembly, I shall con-
sult the Chamber whether or not you should be al-
lowed to continue.
(Here arose a tumult and confusion impossible to
describe.)
An immense majority of the Chamber decided
that M. Glais-Bizoin should not be allowed again
to address the Chamber during the present sitting.
M. Glais-Bizoin returned to his place.
M. Arago spoke in favour of the amendment of
M. Glais-Bizoin in as far as it regarded scientific
associations. In the course of his observations he
reproached the Minister of Public Instruction with
the indifference he had manifested with regard to
the instruction of the people. The hon. deputy
specified particularly the obstacles that in Paris had
been thrown in the way of the association for the
free instruction of the people. The hon. deputy
here drew a comparison between the extensive and

munificent encouragement given to scientific societies
in England, particularly those destined to enlighten
the people, and the indifference, not to say discou-
ragement, displayed by the French Government
with respect to similar institutions. In continuation
of this statement, he added, that some time back,
wishing to give a course of scientific lectures to the
working classes, he applied to M. Guizot, through
the intervention of General Lafayette, for permis-
sion to give this course in the amphitheatre of the
school of medicine, and that the answer of M. Guizot
was in the following terms :—" We do not wish
that men, entertaining the political opinions that
M. Arago does, should obtain any influence over
the working classes."

The Minister of Public Instruction, in reply, said
that if the association alluded to by the hon. M.
Arago, had met with obstacles, it was not until after
it had broken a formal and written promise not to
meddle with politics. Instead of keeping this en-
gagement, added the minister, the association mani-

fested political opinions of a dangerous tendency,
and even became affiliated with the Societe des
Droits de 1' Homnte. The minister added, with re-
gard to the answer which M. Arago states I had
given to his application, it is impossible I could have
made use of such language ; it would have been at
one and the same time rude and out of place. The
minister, in concluding, said, I certainly have a high
opinion of the profund scientific acquirements of M.
Arago, but I shall take the liberty of reminding him
that, on more occasions than one, men of science,
worthy of admiration, have, during the first revolu-

tion, lent the sanction of their names to the authors
of the greatest excesses, and allowed themselves,
through weakness, to take a share in acts which, in
my opinion, were disgraceful.
M. Arago replied that he would never suffer him-
self to be influenced by the opinions of others. The
opinions that I now, added the hon. deputy, enter-
tain, and shall always entertain, are my own, and I
shall be ready to support them under every circum-
stance. With regard to the men of science who
took part in the first revolution, added the hon.
deputy, who, amongst them, I ask, dishonoured him-
self ? Was it Bailly ? Was it Carnot ? Was it
Meunier ? As far as I can see, said he in conclud-
ing, I know not of one amongst them who did not
act a noble and honourable part.
M. De Tracy spoke in favour of the amendment.
The amendment of M. Glaiz Bizoin was put to
the vote and rejected.
M. Teulon proposed to except from the operation
of the law the meetings of students.—(Bursts of
laughter from the centre.)
The amendment was rejected.
The amendment of M. de la Rochefoucault
Liancourt, relative to charitable associations, was
rejected.
At half-past six the debate was adjourned.

(From Gal4nanes Messenger of Saturday.)

The Courrier Francais says—" On Thursday

night the Government received the answer of the
Ottoman Porte to the last notes delivered to it in
the names of the Cabinets of London and Paris, by
a courier who came by Vienna, and immediately
afterwards hastened on to London. It is said that
this answer is very nearly in conformity with what
Lord Palmerston said in the House of Commons.
The Porte, without receding from any of the articles
in the treaty of July the Bth, expresses, in terms of
the greatest moderation and sincerity, its desire to
do every thing in its power to preserve the relations
of peace and amity which have so long existed be-
tween it and its two ancient allies. Since Russia
has made a halt in its march of ambition, and given
to both France and Great Britain assurances of her
pacific intentions, it was quite natural that Turkey
should not show any spirit of hostility in her nego-
tiations with the two powers ; but, after all, the
main question has not advanced a single step."
M. Cabet has withdrawn his appeal to the Court
of Cassation against the sentence recently pro-
nounced upon him, and, it is said, has set out for
Belgium.

The Sentinelle des Py. rbthes of Bayonne, of the
18th inst., has the following :—" It is said that
every ecclesiastic in Spain, whatever may be his
dignity, who may hesitate to acknowledge the legi-
timacy of the actual government, will be exiled from
the kingdom, and his property will be' seized. Every
ecclesiastical chapter that may have an absent mem-
ber implicated in the revolutionary factions will be
dissolved. Any community or convent that may
entertain relations with one of the factions will be
instantly closed, without prejudice to the punish-
ment inflicted on the guilty party."—The following
from St. Jean Pied de Port is dated the 13th inst. :
The day before yesterday a strong column of
troops, commanded by Brigadier Oraa, came to the
iron-works of Orhaicetta, to carry off a quantity of
arms and ammunition deposited there, and yester-
day morning it took the direction of Ochagaira.
lhaec avr rale ge uoyf,
Epursued
and must have arrived at that of Bastan or Ul-
f, haste,
and
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..... Augsburg Gazette of the 18th inst. has the
following, of the 6th, from Belgrade :—" The great
boyar and general of the Wallachian militia, Alex-
ander Chioksa,oda
is mentioned
in Wallachia.
entionedasa candidate
Moldaviadidat he
ef
the
office of hp
great boyars Mihalaky, Stourdza, and Alexander
Chika, a relation of the Wallachian boyar, are spoken
of. The Russian troops are daily expecting orders,
to vacate the principalities." Our funds to-day are,
Metalliques, Five per Cents, 97 5-8; Ditto, Four
per Cents, 88 ; Bank Actions, 1,248 1.
The Patriote de Saone Loire, of Chalons-sur-
Saone, gives an account of a general meeting of the
sections of the Societe des Droits de t Honinze,
on the 16th inst., in a meadow called St. Come. At
twelve o'clock the assembly came together from all
directions, singing the Marsellaise and the Chant du
Depart, and amounted to upwards of 1,200, but
would have been much more numerous had the no-
tice been longer, the summons being issued by the
central committee at Chalons only on the preceding
Friday evening. The character and proceedings of
the meeting were similar t? those 9f the assembly

held on the 9th instant at Arbois, of which we gave
an account in the Messager, from the Patriote
Franc-Comtois. The following were the resolutions
come to :—Art. 1.. The Societe des Broils de
l'Homme of the Saone and Loire protests against
every law which may fetter the free exercise of the
rights of association. 2. This society will maintain
its present organization, and will continue to meet
as heretofore. 3. It will consider itself a party in
every prosecution which may be directed against
any citizen on. account of association, and will resist
it by every means it may have at its disposal."
FRENCH FUNDS.—Psais, IVlsneu 22.
Five per Cents., 104 f. 65c. 50c. 60c.
Four and a Half per Cents., 99f. 90c.
Four per Cents., 91f.
Three per Cents., 78f. 35c. 40c. 35c
Bank Actions, 1,850 f. 1,795 f. 75c
Rente de Naples, 94f. 70c. fiOc. •
Roman Five per Cents., 95;i; 95.
Bente d'Espagne, Five per Cents., 27 2714 27.
• Rente d'Espagne, Three per Cents., 40 91.9014.
Royal Spanish Loan, 232 814. ya,
Rente Perpet. d'Espagne, rive per Cents., 65% !4%.
Belgian Loan, MI, Five per Cent., 100%.
Haytian Loan, 2721: 50c.
EXCDANDE ON LONDON.
One month, paper, 25f. 2754 c.; money, 25f. 25c.
Three months, paper, 25f. ; money, 23f. 1:".c.
—fours Authentique.