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London, England, 1851-05-24 00:00:00

MAY 24,

all parts of the empire.—(Hear, hear.) It was a de.
ciaratury Act, and when they declared a law in England
they were also doing the same for Ireland.—(Hear,
hear.) His lion. Friend the Member for Midhurst was
right in saying the clause was not intended to apply im-
mediately to Ireland. What they simply said was, to
declare a law which was appflcable to both kingdoms.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL said. tho ion. and Learned
Attorney-General had made the matter more clear, for
he had toll them that the dame did not apply to Ire-
land and that it did.—(Cries of "Divide, divide.")
Mr. MOORE said it appeared to him that the state-
ment of the two Hon. and Learned Gentlemen was this
—that that was merely a declaratory law. But the
Member for Midhurst said it did not declare the law
with regard to Ireland, while the Attorney-General said
it did.—(Divide.) If that was not contradiction he did
not know what was.—(Hear, and cries of " Divide.")
The Committee then divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment
Against it
Majority

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Sir B. HALL was addressing the House on the re-
admission of strangers. He recommended the Govern-
ment to proceed with that Bill every day after twelve
o'clock, and then they could go on with the ordinary
business of the country at the usual hour.—(Cheers.)
That course would be an assurance on the part of the
Government that they were seriously determined to press
forward that measure.—(Hear, hear.) That plan had
been found to succeed with less important questions, and
he thought it might be adopted with advantage in the
present instance, as it seemed to be the intention of
Hon. Members to put off the Bill as long as possible.
Mr. KEOGH said the people of Ireland might always
expect a consolatory proposition from the Hon. Member
for Marylebone. The Hon. Members were not respon-
sible for the delay which had occurred, for the Govern-
ment had postponed the Bill and struck out clauses and
inserted others from time to time. Did the House. then,
want to exculpate the Government from all blame? If
the course recommended was adopted, it would be for
them to use such means of obstruction as they hal not
hitherto taken.—(Hear.)
Mr. M. GIBSON hoped the day sittings would not be
adopted, as it would tend more to interfere with than
expedite the public business of the country, so many
Hon. Members were on Committees. He could not but
agree with the Hon. Member for Athlone that some
blame was due to the Government for the delay of the
Bill, as they were frequently a whole night discussing
clauses which were subsequently withdrawn.—(Hear)
The Earl of ARUNDEL and SURREY said the Go-
vernment might postpone that Bill if the business of the
country was at a stand still. He thought it would be a
most unfair course, upon such an important measure, in
which millions were concerned, to discuss it at day sit-
tings.—(Hear.) He was a member of a railway Com-
mittee, and he could not attend it if the day sittings were
adopted. He could say he did not think they were liable
to the charge, on the whole, of offering any factious op-
position to the progress of the Bill.—(Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said his inclination would be to
consult the convenience of the House; for he was per-
suaded that other business would be interrupted, so much

time being given to questions of importance ou which
Hon. Members were not likely to be absent, if he resorted
to morning sittings, which would provoke oppositioa of
a different character than had been given; and, therefore,
ho was not prepared to assent to the Hon. Member for
Marylebone's proposition. He must say, whatever the
cause of delay with respect to particular propositions, it
was obvious that questions were debated eight or teu
times over, and that answers provoked discussions. It
was obvious, if this system ware continued, a great deal
of needless time would be taken up with the Bill; there-

fore, he reserved to himself tho discretion of taking
morning sittings if necessary. He should not, however,
adopt them unless he fjund it absolutely necessary. He
looked for the support of the House in preventing un-
necessary delay. He would, however, just remark that
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Ur. M. Gibson) on these
occasions took an opportunity of making good-natured
remarks (the rest of the sentence was inaudible).
Mr. M. GIBSON replied that if propositions were
brought forward, like those of the Hon. and Learned
Member for Abingdon, only to be withdrawn, that would
be the way to create delay.
Mr. DISRAELI said tho Bill, although a very im-
portant Bill, was a very brief one, and notwithstanding
the active opposition it met with it was not difficult to
pfirceive there must be some end to the discussion.—

(Hear, hear.) He could not help thinking that the
time had not arrived for resorting to the desperate ex-
pedient of morning sittings. He had every wish
to support her Majesty's Government—(Laughter)—
in the conduct of public business; but he was bound to
say it was impossible for Government to bring forward
measures of importance without expecting an amount
of active opposition, which in the ordinary course of bu-
siness might not be perfectly justifiable. The excess,
however, which might have been expected had not bcen
exceeded in the present case— (011!)—for though in his
personal experience he knew how disagreeable it was to
divide frequently on the same evening with one lobby full
and the other lobby nearly empty, he could not forget
that the measure of Government was not such a matured
or well-considered measure as was entitled to the support
of the House, but a measure which rather invited and
encouraged opposition. Government had withdrawn
clauses after discussion, and thus had recognised the.fact
of there being a legitimate ground of opposition. He
thought, under existing circumstances, Government
had acted wisely in not acceding to the proposi-
tion of the Hon. Member for Marylebone.
The effect of that proposition on the conduct
of Committees would be in itself a fair ground
of objection. On the paper he perceived there were
several important Committees—one on the property-tax,
and he wished to know how Gentlemen could serve on
those Committees and attempt at the same time to con-
duct the morning sittings? Ho hoped in future discus-
sions it would be found expedient to expedite public
business, as that must be the wish of every Hon. Mem-
ber in that House.
After a few words from Mr. MOORE,
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave
to sit again on Monday.

1851.

eleven o'clock yesterday farenoon, for the terminus of
the South-Western Railway, en route to Osborne.

A Cabinet Council uas held yesterday afternoon at
the Foreign-office, Downing-greet, which was attended
by Lord John Russell, the Llrd Chancellor, the Mar-
quis of Lansdowne, the Earl of Mint:), Sir George
tirey, Viscount Palmerston, Earl Grey, the Chancellor
of the Exchequer, Sir Francis Baring, the Right Hen.
H. Labouchere, Lord Broughton, the Earl of Carlisle,
and the Marquis of Clauricarde. The Council sat two
hours and a half.

A Deputation on the subject of certain legacies for
charitable uses in Ireland had an interview yesterday
with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, at his official re-
sidence in Downing•street. The deputation consisted of
Messrs. Grace, Keogh, Moore, St. George, Higgins,
O'Flaherty, Blake, arid M'Cullagh.
Lord Portman bad an interview with Sir George
Grey yesterday at the Home-office.
The Judges, grieen's Counsel, and the other law
officers will not assemble at the Lord Chancellor's resi-
dence on the first day of the ensuing term.
Sir T. Fremantle, Chairman of the Board of Customs,
had en interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer
yesterday.
Dispatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-
office from the Governors of the West India Islands.
Dispatches were sent off last evening from the Colonial-
office to the Governor of the Canadas and the Governors
of the other North American colonies.

ISLE OF WIGHT ELECTION. ,
NOMINATION OF CANDIDATES.
(raor OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.)
At eleven o'clock yesterday a very numerous meeting c
of the electors of the island took place before the Guild-
hall of the borough of Newport, when Captain Hamond
was proposed as a fit and proper person to represent the
island by the Hon. H. A. A'Court Holmes. Thomas
Willis Fleming, Esq., seconded the nomination. Bon-
ham Carter, Esq., proposed Edward Dawes, Esq., and
the Hon. Augustus Moreton seconded him. On a show
of hands, a very few were held up for Captain Hamond
—a vast forest for Mr. Dawes. A poll was then de-
manded by the friends of the Captain, which will com-
mence at Newport, Cowes, and Hyde on Monday.
During the nomination a large banner was displayed,
having painted on it a naval officer, a sailor with his
back cut to pieces, ard a boat►wain's mate with a cat-o'-
nine-tails, from which the blood appeared streaming;
" Hamond to the South Seas, Dawes for the Isle of
Wight;" "You would not protect Queen Pomare," and
' other placards were as numerous as " Free Trade," No
Bread Tax," &c. Captain Hamond sported " Protection
to Agriculture," but it was a very sorry display. It
seemed a subject that all were sick of—even the chil-
dren could not be frightened with it any longer, and the
farmers have at last found out how they have been
humbugged. None of them show but those who have
rings through their noses.