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IMPERIdL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF PEERS,

MONDAY, MARCH Z 2.

Lord ALVANLEY, in consequence of the absence
of the LORD CHANCELLOR, through indisposition,

officiated this day as Speaker.
The further consideration of the Scotch Appeal,
Lothian and others v. Henderson, Riddell, and Co.
was postponed till Thursday.
The various Bills before the House were for_
warded in their respective stages.

The Report of the Committee of the Commons
appointed to consider the severed Papers and Ac-
;Dents laid before that House was, in pursuance of
their Lordships' requisition, presented by Mr.
AGGE accompanied by several Members.
The title of the Report being read, it was order-
ed to lie upon the Table.
Some routine business was transacted ; and one
private Bill,
..brought up from the Commons by Sir
CHARLES BoNBuRY, Was read a first time.

Lord PELHAM moved, that the Report of the
Committee of the Commons relative to the Civil
List, be printed for the use of the House, which
was ordered accordingly.

His Lordship then moved, that the Order of the
Day for taking his Majesty's Message relative to
the Civil List bit° consideration, be now read.—
‘.`v filch being done, he observed, that in conse-
nuepce of the proceedings which had just taken
place, and in order to give their Lordships time
co peruse, and further to consider the information
before the House on the subjea, he should move to
discharge the said Order, and to make a new one
for considering His Majesty's Message, and sum-
moning the Lords thereupon for that day se'nnight.
The immediate Order of the Day being dis-
charged, and before the question was put upon the
Noble Secretary of State's second Motion,

Lard HOLLAND rose and took the opportunity
to inquire whether the Noble Lord meant to pro-
pose to refe r His Majesty's Message to the consi-
deration of a Committee of that House, or to move
for the appointment of a Committee of their
T_,ordships to inquire into and investigate the sub-
; a proceeding of this sort he conceived to be
necessary, and he did not think the Report of a
Committee of the other House of Parliament, suf-
ficient grounds for that House to proceed on. He
Nvished particularly to know, whether or not, it
was the Noble Lord's intention to move for the
appointment of a Committee, as it struck him so
forcibly that something of that nature was proper
to be done. He should, in case the Noble Lord did
not intend it, come forward himself with a propo-
sition to that effect.

Lord PELHAM,- in reply to what fell from the
Noble Lord, recalled to his Lordship's recollettion
that he had just moved for the printing of the Re-
port brought up from the Commons, for the better
,formation of their Lordships upon the subjea,
Which when they had perosed and considered, they
would be better judges how to decide upon the
whole. With respeCt to the Noble Lord's Ques-
tion, he would repeat shat he had on a former
evening found occasion to olrve, that it was
open to the Noble Lord, or to any other Noble
Peer who may think proper, to move for the
appointment of a Committee on the occasion.
Lori! .KOLL,AND spoke shortly in explanation,
and observed that by what fell from the Noble Secre-
tary of State, he understood it was not his intention
to move to rater the subjea to a Committee. He
felt it incumbent on him, therefore, to come for-
ward himself, and on Thursday next he should
move for the appointment of a Committee, and of
course he should move that their Lordships be sum-
moned upon that day.
• Lard P ELHAM then, after a few words, :Ir_
parently on the subjea of Arrangement, moved,
i‘ That His Majesty's Most Gracious Message be
taken into consideration on Friday next, and that
the Lords be summoned for that day ;"—which, on
the Question being put, was ordered accordingly.
No regular Motion for summoning the House on
Thurschin was made by Lord HOLLAND.
Lord Hoooallo then moved, " That an humble
Address be presented to 1-1;s MAJEs-ry, praying,
that he will be graciously pleased to.order to be
laid before the House an Account of the Extraor-
dinary Expellees of the Army, incurred and paid by
the Right Hon. the Paymaster General of His
-Majesty's Forces, in the year ISot, and not pro-
,:ided for by Parliament :"—and also, " That there
be laid before the House an Account of the Distri-
bution of the Sum of 2,500,0c01. granted for defray-
ing certain Extraordinaries,of the Army, incurred in
the same year, &e."
These Motions, on the Question being put, were
severally agreed to.
The Ear! of C, ARNAR PON wished to learn from
the Noble, Secretary of State, whether it was
intended to lay any further information before the
.House, on the subject of the Civil List, than what
was contained. in the Report of the House of Com.
mons—the information thereia, the Noble Earl
seemed to think was by nu means sufficient for
the thorough undersiaraling of the subjea on
the part of their Lordihips ; neither did he think
the document in onastion, which, with respea to
that Housa, he conceived to be nugatory, at all a
sufficient ground liar their Lordships to proceed
of on. Having given his opinion upon these points,
rather decidedly, his Lordship again expressed his
wish to know whether any farther information was
meant to be laid before the House. He thought
their Lordships should have, with a reference to
the interests of the Public, the same opportunities
of investigating the subjea as the Commons ; they
should have a Committee of their own appoint-
ed to inquire, and not proceed upon a Report of the
other House of Parliament. The Noble Earl con-
cluded his observations to this effea; by intimating
that in case no further information was intended to
be laid before their Lordships on the part of Mini-
sters, hc should have occasion to move for the pro-
dation of several Papers which he deemed neces-
sary to the due illustration of the subjed.

PTITELHAP4- thtepipirt—Trrezoservatruns-
of the Noble Earl, seemed to put it to the con-
sideration of their Lordships, that there was a de-
gree of difficulty in answering the leading .proposi-
non of the Noble Earl, as it was built upon an
assumed knowledge of what the Report of the other
House of Parliament contained : for his own part, ,
he had no regular opportunity of knowing what
the document in question contained, but it appeared
to him, highly probable, that it was fraught with
important information on the subjet. Indepen-
dant of this, he would recall to the Noble
Earl's recolleaion, that there were several papers
and accounts ; in faE, every thing that was deemed
necessary for the proper understanding of the sub-
jea, laid upon the Table shortly after His Majesty's
Message was originally brought down to the House.
These lay ever since before the House for the pe-
rusal and consideration of their Lordships, and these
were documents, so we understood his Lordship to say,
of a similar nature to these communicated to the
other House of Parliament, and on which they had
grounded their Report. Hovvever, if it should ap-
pear, there were any other Accounts alluded to in
the Report, (which he rather imagined was not the
case) than these on their Lordships' Table, it was,
undoubtedly, open to any Noble Lord to move for
their produaion,
The Earl of C ARN A R rOAT spoke shortly in ex-
planation ; after which, an adjournment being
moved, the Question was put, and the House im-
mediately adjourned till to-morrow,