The Sun.
London, England, 1802-01-13 00:00:00

Q. Was you there before me ?—A. I was not.

12.,b) the Prisoner, You stand here evidence for the King
and you are concealing yotir evidence; do'you not remember
coming into my birth, and calling Me to come forward? A. I
never went into your birth at all ;, I do not know what birth
you mused in. Ido not remember calling you. Q. Do not
you remember telling•llle you had taken two great coats from
two marines, .to disguise yourself? A. I took the great coats
up; Freally forget ever mentioned ;t to the prisoner.
Q. Did yciu ever see' me in any of ;lie-prisoners' births, drink-
ing, ordisCourshig with-them, except on Sunday, the (Ith of
December ? A. I never did. Q. Did ydu ever see me in any
assembly or Meeting-of the prisoners, or usipg any more free.
dam,' during the ist and tan of December, than at any other
time ? A. 1 never did, more than gOing"after Franey, to see if
he was drunk, and on Sunday, as I before mentioned. -

Q. 6.), Admiral Collingwothd:Did you ever hear Collins pro.
pose to smother a mate ? A. Noi'gir. Q. Do you remember
seeing any letter wrote in Taylor's birth on Wednesday-even-
ing ? A. No. • •
. .
Q. by the Piisener Lockycr. You have stated in your evi-
dence, I was a leading man in the disturbance, and that you
was employed in carrying messages for the ieading men, to
those in their confidence; did you ever hear me give any or-
ders, or desire you to carry any messages during the distur-
bance ? A. .I did not. Q. What part of the disturbance did
you find me a leading man in ? A. On Sunday afternoon,
when the ports were lowered down ; the first I heard call
for shot, was 'James Lockyei. Q. From that particular, do
you state me to be' a leading mart, when you also say, that se-
veral others called for shot ?—[Here the Court interfered, and
the prisoner thought fit not to press the question].
Q. by the Prisoner Cummins. Did You ever hear rme cry
out, bawl iii the scuttles ? A. No. Q. Yet you say 1 was
aelive. What then wasl- adive in ? In the first place,-
when the letter was writing, the prisoner was looking out tin*
the Officers. On the Sunday, when the Officers were coming,
he passed me on the larboard side of the lower deck; and
when the men were running, .he said, Here are men to stand
by each 'other r Q. Where was I ? A.. Between the two
foremost guns.. . _
Q. 6..); the Prisoner Hillie,. Did you ever see Me in con-
versation with any of the Prisoners during the mutiny ? A.
No, except when you lowered the ports down.
Q. by the Prisoner Daly. You say there was no one in
,Rowland's birth but Chesterman and Taylor.- Where was
I ? A. I cannot say.—:Q. On'Sunday the 6th of December,
did you see Anfrey on the larboard side forward ? A.
Q. Could he have been there without your seeing hint when
the ports were lowered down I A. There were a great many
I c,),11d not see.

_Q. ly Admiral flollqukly. Did you see either of the pri.
goners, or didd-you hear any of them say they were ready to go
and, assist the Admiral and Officers in carrying the ship to
sea and obey ?.:A. I nevor did.. , ,

TZ9mas Spencer examined.

This Witness spdke as follows:--On Tuesdaye the-Bth of
Decemher, from six -to eight in the, evening, I saw John •
Celllus., lames Ward, Jelin Fitzgerald, Thomas Jones, Tho-
mas Cross, :John Mayfield, James Chesterman, Williaw
Cooke, and. Edward Taylor,with a book on the table, and a
sheet of writing-caper on the book, Collins telling Taylor
what to put in the paper. I asked Cooke what that was con-
cerning, and he toldeme-it was a letter they were writing to
the Admiral. The people -were sitting,outside their births,
and when Lieutenant Forfar came 'fore, the people sung out,
" a rat ! a rat !" and throwing their hats down on the deck,
said they wanted a chew of: tobacco, and that they wanted to
p—. Then the people ran out of the birth, and John Collins
ran out of the starboard side, and sat on the cable. Edward
Taylbr ran in between the hammocks with the book and
sheet of paper in his hand ; and when Lieutenant Forfar went
aft, the people went into the birth again to write the letter :
but how it went to -the Admiral I do not know. James
Ward constantly walked round the deck on the Bth, 9th, and
toth of December, desiring the people not to take trp their
hammocks till-they were piped up.
He proposed barricading the hatchway fore and affwith the
hammocks; and if that would not do, when the handi'',were
turned up, the ship's company were to rush aft, disarm the
centinels, end take charge of the arms. On, Sunday afternoon,
Edward Taylor wanted to block the hatchway fore and aft.
He said he. had helped to cheer in.several ships in his life, but
he never cheered so heartily as in this. -As soon as the Officers
came on the lower deck, and called Out to fire, he answered,
" Fire and be d—d," and calling for crow-bars, he sung out,
" Kill 'em, kill 'em, kill 'em, the be-s." Wherithe Officers
gat some of the people to bawl up two or.three of the midship
ports, Mr. Forfar stood in the fore-hatchway. Taylor jump-
ed into the fore-hatchway to lower the ports, and Mr. Forfar
shoved his sword at him, and :he. jumped back to the other
side and spoke to Lieut. Douglas, but what he said I do not
know. Tire people hustledone another to go on decic: Harry
Skinner sungout with his hand: to his mouth, that they were
willing to fight for their King.and Country, but it wassPeace,
and they would not go out of the land. Then the people be-
gan to cheer.
.On SunilaY, Cooke wanted to-take the arms while the
hammocks were in the- hatchway tore and aft. He -went
round every night to pass' that order, I heard him, and he told.
me so..hinisell. Also when the men were aft, he was the
chief in singing out, "'No, no. You b—, why don't you
,sing net ? why do not you stick true to each ether?" ,He
• was first in front of the people then he fell back and.
said, " Why, don't you sing out ?" Also when the grog and
wine were, served, he went round the deck, desinng.every
man to drink his allowance. Then, when he got torward
the people. used to sing out, " Every one their own.' • Also,
when the ports...were down on Sunday the'6th, he sung out,
" Unship the' ladders," and endeavour to upset Lieut. Doug-
' las coming down the fore ladder., John Fitzgerald very fre-
quently went to the people to put fresh mischief in their
heads, generally with a mob round.- him. He sent for'
M'Evoy, theiNlarinc, one night; to go through the 'Marines,
to get them on their side, if such a thing happened again.
..11.1‘Evoyein lily presence, went and came back again, and told
Fitzgerald, in my,hearing, thathe had passed tlw whole of
the story throughout the Marines, to stick true to the Sailors.
I r such a thing happened, he said, there might he some young
who, if the Captain ordered theta to fire; might fire
but the rest wOnld throw down arms, and join them. i have
seen fames Chisterntan ,corresponding with the others,- hut
he always made me go out of thC way : he wanted none of my
• hearing there,. • '
On the lath of December,. as Chesterman was on the morn-
ing watch, lie Said, if he saw any man bring his hammock•
out before- they Nvere piped; he 'would fetch him down the
ladder, break his' neck, and get more -hands to help him.
Thomasiones-was talking of getting possession of the arms,
aild said, thaf:Would not do, it was easy, to break open the
• eltinner's ster:4o°m; widget charge of the iornahawks. This
was,on Wednesday-and Thursday.. Rowland; the Carpenter,
said he would not clap a tt-tid to ship a eawan bar, if the
ship Ni/RS gOitig cloww. Mt his time he was abreast of his.
own birth, on thesterhoard side. •Mayfield I have heard hold•
couveesation with t'..e rest, but I. cannot tell what he i'etid.
(lb Sunday the 6th, before we bent sails, I heard Hillier and
Daly say on the lbWer deck, that they had got some powder
• in the h.: per' loekers, that would send all the Officers to
; if that would net ;do, they would turn to, wed
kill every Officer in the ship. Daly said he •had got eight or
note eartriges or powder, and' tour or rive matches, and one
constantly lighted, and two rockets to make signals to the
Other ships ; and said, when they were all gone, th,ey would
get some algre.

THIRD DAY.

Thomas Sperc:r was again calledt

Q. by Captain Eylts. On atinday the'6tjrof December, do
you recollect baaring Collins say any thing about sriothenpg
l‘lr. Stanton in his bed? A. lam not positive abotit it.
.Q. Did you ever hear any ni the prisoners call theihselYts
delegates of the ship ? A. No, I did not. -
Q. bytquPre.rident. From the Ist to the ttth of Decem-
ber, did you hear or see any of th prisoners taking'an oath .o
stand true to each other, or drinking any particulartoast ? A.
I (ii 4 not. Q. Look round the "prisoners, and say whether
anyone of them slimed any signs of remorse, or expressed
anv desire to return 'to their duty ANo

Q. by ftlytiral I',.;fr. Did the witness at any time see Ches.
terman, White, Lockyer, or CulauninS, it) consultation with
the.other prisoners, or aiding or assisting them ? A. I heard
them on Siinday cheer. Q. Did ,you see White attempting
tO.unship the fore ladder. A. I saw White at the main lad-
der et the ,larboard side, trying to lift it up, when I went
forw'ar,d. Q. Do you recollect Ida coMing forward, and
lor silo:, after he had tried to unship the ladder'? A.
Yes, on the larboard side,-when the Officers were come clown
on the hswer (leek, to haul the ports up. .
Q. '4. itintira! Coiirtgwood, -.Was the book you mentioned.
a Bible ? A. No ; it 'was a writing-book, with a parchment
cover. 'Q. Did Ward tell the people to barricade the hatches
when he Went mural ? A. Yes, at the same tiroe„..- Q. At
w hat 'time did he- inform t4crn of the plan ordisarming the
Mirines ? A. On Thursc4K, when the. Adiiiiral came on
board, they eapeeted the hands to be turned up to unmoor
ship ; then they were to rtishaft and.,take the -rills, at the
same time that the Admiral read the. letter en tne quarter-
deck to the-Ship's company. •Q. Do you recoiled any of the
Prisoners with Ward at the time he used thesfiexPressions ?
A. :Mayfield, Allen; arsd.li_it4gerald were reseatt.,
•
ohn Bcartwaiit's• :Wee, sworn. •
Q. by the. Pro.iecutcr. Relate to the Court what you know
against the prisoner Mayfield.—Witness. On the sr:), I saw
a :nob colletting•in Ward and Lo:.:ltyer's birth ; it appeared
that Fitzgerald was one of the chief persons. Soon atter the
mob colleeled. Ward- and Lockyer came forth- before one
hundred and odd men 'along the hey up the fore-hate/I*ov,
and soon after the ship's company followed what they
On Sunday, after ueliiling sail, I saw Fitzgerald in different
parts of the ship with a" nth-I:tier- Of people.' About one
o'clock the mob rose in Loekyer, Fitzgerald, and Chester-
man's birth, and the ports were shortly after lowered dOwn.
It appeared to me 'hat Fitzgerald and Chesterinha were the
tingleaders. I ccald not hear any of them but Crimmins,
who stept before the mob, and said to one of the Officers,
Mr. Pugson, who was casting off the netting, " hang the
rascal ,He ran to -the\fore-ladder, and endea.voored to un-
ship it, but he could not. During Sunday it appeared to me
that a number of, men, to the amount of g or Soo, Caine to
Fitzgerald.and Chesterinan's birth' ,at different times of the
• day; which proved clearly to me they were the most adiye:
When the men went to the birth they stooped, down, and
from all of them making that motiop, it.appeared to me they
were taking the oath, or pasng the word, It appeared to
me Riley and Fitzgerald were messmates, by their continu-
ally going up and down the ladder.. On Tuesday the Bth,
Ohre was an order by the Captain and Officers to get some
strong:beer on board, and broached. Soon after it was
broached, Lockyer and Ward came' on the main-deck, anti
gave -orders that no beer, Should be drink: -Taylor gave the
same order. Fitzgerald said on Sunday,. after: the cheers
Were given, " now the sun shines on us all at last," and then
went
.yip the fore-ladder. He asked M`Kniaht, abreast of
Sta,4oo,birth, Are -you a man alter toy own heart ?
Q. bY ,the Preside-nt. bid you hear any of the Prisoners say
they would tuft go out of the land ? • A. No ; they kept every
tithig, very close from me. Q. Did You see any of the pri-
sonors go into Chesterroan aim Fitzgerald's birth ? A, Ward,
Cdoke, White, Lockver, Cummins, and Daly, were in Chet,-
terms." and kitgerald's birth.
Q. 4j. the frimtel:Eitz,gccald. Who was the person I told
the suit shines upon us now._ floe prisoner did not press'.
this question.]
Q by :h Priscner D.2.1t•
." Do yOU know whether I Was onduty when I was walkoig abreast or /- itzgerald's birth, as
you know my duty required me to be there, at. that side of
the deck about those hours, froth the tiMe• the hammocks are
piped up till they are piped clown ? A.-He •wai not in the
execution chatty out)/ ; . he looked very -stern at me.

. •• Mieb,rei -Fie/dierg Swam. -• • •
Adam Bell came o:es on Saturday, at ten o'clock; from the
larboant to the starboard side, 'forward on thelower deck, as
Fitzgerald and fames Kelly were walking past their birth, to
inform them-a great many people were talking of going aft in
tegaretto not going to the West Indies. Fitzgerald made an-
swer, the word should be passed-to the -ship's coin-patsy, -and
see what they would say. All hands went aft on the quarter-
deck and came down again. I heard Chesterinan say, the
Admiral gave no ssnistiactory answer, and witiott-t douht they
were geling to theeWeSt !tidies. About two-benCalterdinner
the word was passed for no man. to drink more than his
allowance. The siune night the word was passed, ifordered
to unmoor ship, all hands were to go forward -and- say they'
would not unmoor except for England. Taylor -passed the
word. 1 heard Chesterman give the orders to a great many
as I was walking the deck. The word was passed two bells
after efinner for all hands to go forward. Fitzgerald and
chesterman:desired that the men on deck should all ,come
down.' I heard a voice say, come forward, lower.all ports',
saw Chesterman and- Fitzgerald lower the 'ports next their
awn birth ' • and cry out, loweraway ; and all hands repeated
the cry, and called out, " wad and shot, no place but Eng-.
land ?" The First Lieutenant, Mr. Douglas, came down to
thefore-hatchway, and told the men to come aft, and speak
to their Admiral. . All hands said they would not, for that
they wanted to shiver -them on the quartef-deck, They
called for wad and shot, -and fames leiley'called to hand the
- match. It was only to frighten-the Officers ; there was no
inten4orn of carrying the threat into execution. It was done
to prevent the Officers coming .down. .
.Nlr.:Donglils_called out a second time that the Admiral
Wanted them on the quarte;•,deck,•.and for them not to make
3;44, a-noise. I heard Riley-say, strike the rascal with a shot.'
On -Monday I heard Chesterrniun say, clapping Na hand on
the fOremost gun, " this is the very piece of ordnance-that
will do the business.". The same night I- head him give
orders to bring the hammocks forward, and stow them on
the-larboard side of-the lower-deck forward, run in the fore-
most guns, and stow the hammocks so as to, leave no room
for any person to come in and out. If the gitn's should not
be loaded, and the gilicers broke in, every man was to seize a
shot, and stand-in his own defence.. The same night,l heard
Collins say, he was ordered by the ship's company to get
money for a marine's wife, as the marines subscribe to their
women. Money was Subs:rit:a that night. Next morning-1
heard Cilesterrnan.sity, there was a gieat watch the night be-
fore. Th ev could not stow the harninocks. At this trine) was
tinder the iOrecastle swabbing it.- The same day I heard him
say; if all hands should. be calle.ct to unmoor at, any-time, all
were-to appear on the forecastle and foreerigging, and give
three cheers: and if they attempted to fire from the quarter..
deck, to make a charge and seize the marines' arms, which
they expected would be given up without any. trouble.
Q..by eye President/. Did you hear an' oath proposed by
Fitzgerald, to betrue ? A.- Na. ,
Q. by the Prisoster Fitzger4.-1,1. Did you sear any of the,
prinoinds talk of drawing tne.main-dacli runs ? and Who was
present ? A. i did; C'hesterman told me of it.as I was going
forward ia my duty. Q, Did yott ever hear. Collins pass the
word to go on the quarter-deck 1_ A. I did-not.
The Court was now cleared for a short time. On its-be-
ing re-opened,
Timothy Wh' itfield was called and =wry.
Q. ey the Prosect4!.... _Do you. know Cross? A. Yes.
I
Q. Did you ever sec him assist n carrying crow-bars forweed,
between the :at and trth of December? A. Yes. Q. On
wivat deck, and at what time? A. 04i the loWer deck, bee
tween four and six o'clock on the tee:ming of the day on which
the Admiral came en board. Q. State any thing terther you
know respecting the '.viitaletof the btisiness. A. Lockyer and
Cummins were assisting in the satric a.et. I was -sitting in
my. birth ; A n frey came and-;:aid, they were going to take the
crow-bars; Nleyfield told him-not• to bring any stories for,
ward to. him, for he did not Want to heardbent.

hn Sncwdem examined.
Q. 6y the Cmtrt. On Sunday,:the 6thi in the evening, did
Cross come to your birth, and say, you 41. r. wanted tOrward
A. Yes. Q. I,Nrbat answer d;d you ,mite.? A.; .1•told him
did not chose to go. 0., Dkt ne :tick you if you intended to
*tangy? neutral ? A. Yes. Q.' Do you know any thing against
any of the priscniers..? A. Not ,single. thing. •
Q. by
.Capiain 7.nee. What •do. you luTpove was meant ?
A .-I:arrsierstood ())-netiting.improper was k..oing on ;.1. judged
it It AS 1 detertniv.ition not to go to tne West

Dwiglar, 80atrumi*,,,,r74.4.171.
Captain Relate to the ttlutert what you saw of Cal-
the'ri.i..2 they were en the ler:2:castle on
thLasttay, 'the rota, iq tilS evening.. cap' taih
o Eyles came fovartl to 'clic idibo.ird 55,12.ef the for;:eastle, the.
Ship:6 eetnpany were -.17,p in aims,'out '`no pri-
fbners i" 211 g..ttliere;tro:ll:l the ca ete-, rron. Captiin EyleS
rfi§i.Y...'d into the tot c)t-titcin - \Nattily, ancl
bruizglit hi4n out .7
-ay, the the prisoner,
anti a.gre:tt . ;
they before
cap tep
.-palSoper, Ttncl.-ai‘ thr.eeg ot
diff4ent
,?risoner: They
s 'Ort':•e.:xtettii4ittiere'fiei f'hiirr oirt : Collins join-
pcl in bustling i:irn it, ::,,trne .before him, and plishea
4n;11 v4til hi, arms hanging down. .1 was pisiva

to lift my arms, anclaA him if he knew what he was about.
was lacking at Collins, as d. my hand was on. his breast
keeping hint off. I said, do you know, you damned rascal,
who•yoy ate shoving ? you'll-saitter for this bye and bye.
Q. 4y the nurt. Whilst you were standing on • the fore.
castle, do you recollect seeing any of the prisoners ? A. Ido
not ; it was very dark ; I heard the voice of Fitzgerald.
Q. 6, Capt,eirt Aston..• I want to know if any-of the prison.
ers acted in a partieular.manner in the mutiny from the Ist to
the t ith of December ? A. Lorne on. the quarter-ieck. and
in• different pats of -the ship.- There were Mayfield, Ward,
Chesterman, Rowland, Cross, - Cooke, Collins, Lockyer,
Hillier, Daly, particularly on Saturday.
Q. by eattqin *ills. When .Coll ins shoved Captain Eyles,
. did it appear to you that it was done with a view to rescue
the. man whore he had collared ? Yes. .

Q. by the Prisoner Collins.: Did . you not hear me say, for
Goa's sake strand back,- at thelsame time 'forcing the people
back ?. A. Nu.. Q. Do you think it was possible for me to
staid the for; _z of the people, .as I was in the front of the
lire on The larboard side, when the lane tsax made for Capt.
Eyles 'to go forward, they having.aeted in so mutinous a
manner ? A. I understand they were all alike on that aide of
the forecastle.
_ _

Q. 6y the Prisoner Day. When the hands went aft on Sun-
day, were they not ordered aft by the officers ? A. They
were. ordered aft, but .did not go till the First Lieutenant
went aft, accompanied by the other. Officers. The ports
were down ;- I .heard ditiererrt voices in the bey calling out,
kill the b—s. , The ladder_was Alipt from under me, and I
fell down; *I was immediately got up again. The people
were all standing fast. Lieutenants Douglas and Brown, and
Mr.Stenton,,mare, pushed right forward, with swords drawn
and pistols in their hands, and got the mob away. I saw
Mr. Brown clap a pistol to one of their ears, and they flew
upon' the quarter-deck.—Q., 'When the hands Wcte tiirned
up to' bend sails, did .you see me on the accommodation..
grating, coiling down the nippers to fetch them below'ready ?
A. I recalled seeing yOu there.—Q. Did you say " bear a
hand and get the nippers below ?" 'A. 'I do not recoiled.
Q. by. /Minim/ Holloway. Where did Collins do his' duty
in the ship ? A. He was the ship's butcher.—Q:' Do you
know of any order given to -Collins on the forecastle,' the
evening Capt. Eyles seized Waddy ?" No, Sir.
• yoion•Win. Dtirei ri>e Pakcsrr's-Steward, .rworn.

President. Relate to the Court What passed .between you
and Col I ins nr the store-room, in -the afternoon of. l'hitrsdaY,
the ioth of iknember: WirNe.ii.- On Tluirsday afternoon the
hands had been turned otit on the quarter-deck; Col lins came
below- to the. Steward's room; -to- turn some meat which was
in pickle. I began to diseourSe with him as follows
" Collins, what do you think of the speech the Admiral 'Made
on the quarter-deck 1" " 1 think (replied Collins)'he spoke
like a father." "He spoke very welt (said I), and we may
hope now the men's minds are quieted." He replied; " For The
present. But the Admiral said to-day, he had no orders to
unmoor: Whereas, on Sunday, he told us he expected we
would unmoor ship wherrthe wind came fair." I told him the
letter was addressed in a very respectful manner, except the
latter part (I meant the letter the Admiral read on the quarter-
deck), I wondered who wrote it. He answered " The person
is not far from you: there were twelve of us; and we could
not make it any Better," smiling at the same time. He
did not mention any of the persons names. I said, " I hope
Collins, whatever dislike the men may have to go abroad; their
intentions are not to use violence, to any' officer or perion
Whatever." He replied, C.lOrtilt think it is; or even disre-
spect ; you'see how weir do, their duty :- but did yOu
observe the officers to-day'rin the.cloakter-deck ?—they had
not even their side-anus,
.“-fOrj 1 think they were damnably
frightened." " Don't air& Sorolling (said I), it was not
fear; it is not the wish 'nth- the dispOSifion of the Admiral to
hurt any one, and of this you must be convinced- by what
you heard to-day. The men have not any grieVances ; they
have the hest of usage, and vhat More ran they require ?"
" Why (replie+he), they- are determined not to go abroad;
and they have tried the ships in England, and they will not
go, and I know I won't if I can help it:" " Why, I believe
Collins:,,not even the Admiral himself wishes to go ; but our
country wants our services." He then went away.
Q. f 113 e Prescient. Do you know Rowland ? A. • Yes.
n. W i:en the ship's company were on the quarter-deck, did
you hear Rowland-say why don't you all speak ? what is one
inan? A. I did. Q. Was ha without his hat, and did he
lye:: particularly red in—the Lace and heated ? • A.- !cannot
exatliy say I*looked red-;• he had his hat off: - Q: 'Do you
know any thing inure against ItoM'alid, .or any other a the
prisoners 1- A. No. _

' - GeOrge Parrott sworn.
Q. Do you know Rowland the prisoner ? A. 'Yes. Q. Do
you know any thing of Rowland's being present when the
letter was wrote, and did he assist in dircaing it ? A. Yes ;
he was sittingin my birth when it was wrote. John Col-
lins, James Chcsterrnan, John Fitzgerald, Edward:Taylor,
John curl-in-tins; and Wiliam Cooke; Taylor, -wrote thelet-
ter, ' Q. Did the others give any advke ? A. No, I did nqt
h6r, bin-they *ere alt present. 'Q. -After the letter was
wrote,' did you see it read or hear it ? A. No, I did not.
Q.. How do you know it was the letter the Admiral read ?
A.) do not know ; I did not see it afterwards.

Q. hi the _president. Did you ever hear the prisOner, or any
of them, between the Istand tith of December. say they
would not heave the anchor, but to go toiEngl and ? . No;
I did not. Q. • Was there such cOnversation in the birth ?
-A. No,'Sir..- • • • • • • - - •
Q. 25y Captain Berrie. Did you know: There was a disthrb-
ance in-the ship ? A. Ws. Q. On what day did you hear
of it, and who told you of it ? Were. any of the Prisoners
eoheerned in it ? A. It was on Stuiday; the 6tb,. When I •
Went down to my dinner. After dinner, grog being served
out, I. saw the. people come forward. 'ln about five minuteS,
there -*Vasa great noise; the:cry was, "lower the ports; " 'and
they gave three cheers—my birth-is dote forward in the mid-
ships. Lieutenant Forfar came down, and Mr. Shenton was
on the larboard•side, to the' birth VAere ' I was sitting. Mr.
Forfar 'asked, what man' that tVaS;. Mr. Shenton replied,
George Parrott, of the topsails • mess. He remained there
while the people went all'upoir the dealt: Q.. Did you hear
any body say, lower the -ports' doWit? • A. YC3, William
Elliot, and John Daly. Q.! Wilt, *as in your own birth,
when they were going to lower the ports ? A. Edward
M'Ker, John Eason; Thomas Betts, and John Cummins.
Edward -Taylor was not in- the birth. •Q. What Was your
conversation abourlowering the ports down ? -A. There was
no conversation in .the birth. Q. Was there any conversa-
tion out ? A'. Yes,_ainong the people about the ship'not go-
ing to the West-Indies.- They said,.'they would not lift the
anchor, but for England. .Edward Taylor, and John Collins,
said so: I did not hear any one else.
• Q. by Admiral' Holloway.: Who told you that you were to
drink no more fhan your own allowance of grog ?
,A. Ed-
ward Taylor. Q. Did you not unknitand what was the rea-
son of tharorder? A. No. '

Q. by Captain &rile. Can you fix-on thy man. you heard
cheer? A. Yes. john Cummins, Collins, William Hillier,
and John Daly. Q. Froin'the Ist to the ixth, did you ever
learn any thing about the hathmocks? What was said, and
who said it ? A. I saw-Collins, Chesterman, Fitzgerald,
Taylor, Cooke, Tames Rowland, and Joseph Rowland, sit-
ting upon the hest in Mayfield's birth holding conversation :
the light was put out. What was said I did not hear ; about
ten minutes after they dispersed, I went on deck, and came
d Own on the starboard to gnforward to'my hammock. 1 saw
William Cooke, amid 'heard him tell the people in their births
to keep their hanunocksdown. Q. Do you know any thing
about the appellation 0/delegate ? No. Q. Did you hear any
thing about -ringleaders ? A. Yes, 1-.11141., Q. Name them ;
John Collins, Chestersnan, Fitzgerald, Taylor, Cummins,
Rowland, and Lockyer. Q. What hour was the letter writ-
ten at ? A. Between six, and seven Tuesday evening. Q-. -You
said you never came down but at your meals; what made
you go down then ? A. I went to my supper. . •
Q. by the Prisoner Collins. On what night did you hear me
forward In Mayfield's birth ? A. Sunday night, between-five
anti seven. Q.e What part of the ship was 1 in•on SatllYday,
when you heard me eh= ? A. The larboard side of the tore-
mast.

Q. by the Prisoner Miter. What. part of the ship- was I
in when I sung out, lower the ports ? A. The starboard-la:1Y,
before the miinger—bond. Q: Did you hear me say, Daly,
lower the ports. A. Yes, 1 did. •

Remy Smilb, sworti.

Q . ly the Covrt. •DQ you know the prisoners at the bar ? A.
I.know them all.

-Q.. by C.r;t4ll: liiEyler.+. Rowland send for you into
. Tay:ors birtn, on Tuesdaphight ? A. Yes ; I. was ori.deck at
the time the messenger paine4.• when I had come to my birth,
two of my messinate3-,7chorreis Stanley and Robert Ylexon
• informed me that ReAdand-•.itn are in his birth. • I went
clown to,•his birth in.tiie44dship, they told me my company
was wanted. .flOwl4sl7and. a ayi6r said so ;. Chesterman
was there, .and Eititgcriild. same 'afterwards. • Collins 'and
Cummins were there, I.don'ethink Co. ke stopPed. When
I went into the birth.two or three lines.of a -letter -had been
written. Taylont hen . proceeded to finish it. Cohllns in-
dieted the chief pat, and some more words which Rowland.
didated were interlined.: 'Chesterrnan, I believe, put in two
words. When they came to. that part-of-111e letter where the
marines .were. mentioned, I asked if the.marines•knew of the
letter 'ray for informed me they did. I saw . the letter; fi-
nlshed.' • I ,believe it to be the same that . was re-4d on the
quarter,deek by the dmiral. , I understood they. were
to write another, and ke'p it as a copy: This .was about
six in the -evening.. • -Toe next- morning Rcifsthuid• told
gle hg . the • letter VAS-M. ill thf.: .biunaciv. •

Q. CO you ever, between the zst and rtth .of Decentigr,,
heat the prisoners talk of refusing to go abroad ? A: I heard
a general conversation to that cited, but not by the prisoners. '
Q. Where were you on • Sunday, the 6th instant, when-the,
- ports were lowered down. A. 1 was in Wbite's7 birth on.the
lower deck, Chesterman was there, Rowland was in his own
birth, almost facing and Hillier and. Daly in their birth,
to the best of my khowledge. I was right facing tht3 foremast,
and heard a cry almost fOre and aft, singing out to lower the
ports. I positively do not know who lowered the port near.
me. Q. Why not? .A. Because the people there were as
thick as they could stand_ .Q. As you were close to my.
birth on Sunday, do you remember me sitting there at dinner-
' when the ports were lowered ?, A. I do nut.

Here Captain tj4es stated, that be had no fresh
matter to adduce, or any more witnessed; to briflg
forth, but in further, corroboration of the several
testimonies. alreadY before. the Court. The evi-
dence in support of the prosecution therefore closed,
and at three o'clock the Court adjourned till nine
o'clock the next morning.