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dld not know the Russian strength in these waters. subject of dispute,
.and I. helieye We should find some answer could at present be Riven, because the materials -- en-ne et, ~ .ea w-re now univereally admitted to be Un- and wealthy persons might be bribed to allow their names to
Captain Elliott declined to attack the Russian squadron, • such mode of settling this question hi themost honourable ' for it have not yet been received. On this ground I sound. The country had been gradually getting rid of moneno- appear. That system had been found so dangerous in France
lies and restrictions; and nothing was more clear than that the that it was not now resorted to. The next suggestion might Country Markets.
______cn______ and sent in search of the Admiral at Japan. - Captain and satisfactory manner. In private life in quarrels on think, on the one hand, it would net he fair to theAmern
best general rule with regard to commercial transactions be- be that they should regh,ter the sum of money a person ad- _____,.....___-.....
HOUSE OF LORDS-CrEeTneteneev). Elliott did not appear to have thought it necessary to matters of etiquette, it is not the usual: course for the can Government to give the correspondence omitting
tween individuals was, that the state shouldnot interfere except vanced, and that he should not be allowed to withdraw it
nafet with LIVERPOOL-FEB. 8. •
e blockade the Russian ports, and subsequently the Rus- person who has committed the wrong to fix thenepara• this last paper, which seems to them of great importance
for some proved necessity. (Hear.) The hon. gentleman asked while it was so registered. Then, where would they register e
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsace. . tion. Seconds are called in, and they decide what shall (of course they would not otherwise have sent it) ; but,
man fleet escaped. whether the At to-day's market there was a fair attendananced
wofiotre
re was any want of capital in this country. In Would they have a public office, where anybody could go ? , town and country trade, and although the dem _....
at five o'clock. Sir C. WOOD said there could be no doubt the ad- be the apology to be made ; and, if this question were on the other hand, it would not be fair to the British e me coe
one sense there was not. There were many great ca,pitaliets i
poTfhavanteiw.sweiisisladtoosop:otreitdbhtechiceomme a 1 ad lett r Would they register first laneuid it im roved towards the close ans. so - ,e.l
THE FERISIOY PEERAGE.
miral had the usual orders to take, capture, and destroy brought before the house, I hare no doubt we Government io give that statement without giving the •aaspitthael we heereheri it coultd boo atl the placedwhere tho parttncershii, cwa•s carried on ?- If- that
lomworreatfns of. Tuestd
Lord DERBY said it would be in the recollection of
the enemY ; but he had "0 authority to depute his cum- should find out means of escaping from the cliffi- answer. (Elear.) I hope, however, that no long period who were elways read to emplo
em 1y I ' rofitahl yßut whatywc ositleartabthl.eopar'eels ofPwheat, chiefly American', weerteedd.hiptrio
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their lordships that he had brought under the notice of
mend to another. He did, however, send an officer to culty. Besides, the country would be much more at ease will elapse before we are able to close the correspond- thePnolidedlePand woryking classes ? He believaed twihattitih-eegraerWere
the house the question of the elevation of a gentleman
watch this portion of the world, which was an un- if the subject were discussed by us, and there would ence, and I can assure the hon. gentleman an •teowmouakldebh an ihdsisplofsiieti
d the a great many trades whose development was very important ,to be any prcZection at all it rainutirbme *a, re:tga-or pevople difficult to sell, andVgiraL the turn in facier of the buysri
named Mr. Roache to the vacant barony of Fermoy. known district. Sir Charles then geographically de- be an end to that alarm and apprehension which now house that we are most anxious and most ready to lay to those classes, which would receive a great impetus from ; would say they had advanced money when they had not done
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Barley, beans, and peas were nominally unchanged, Int
He had not moved that the grounds for this creation
scribed the locality referred to. Captain Elliott exists among the mercantile community lest every fresh the whole matter on the table for their consideration. the Passing of this bill, and he saw no reason why that name- I so, and parties would be plunged into all the absurdities of little business doing.
e Indian corn in demand, at go &40,
should be referred to the consideration of the committee
went to the uPPer Part of the gulf in.Ma.y, and dis- packet should bring intelligence tbat Mr. Crampton has (Loud. cheers.) I quite agree with the hon. gentleman rous class of persons, who had. only a small capital, should be 1 inquiring whether the money had been adranced bona fide or qr. for prime mixed, but there being few sellers uoneTo
of privileges, because he expected that the mattere
covered Russian vessels lying there, a large frigate, received his passports and is on his way home. At all that this is a matter of the utmost importance in its deprived of the opportunity of employing it at a profit. The , not. If they wanted to know whether money was still in a 35s 61 transactions were limited. White corn, 3.,0 t •1
hon. gentleman had spoken of facilities for fraud. Were there particular business, inquiries must constantly be set on foot. Per qr.
would be brought before their lordships upon the 2 oorvetten with their broadsides protecting the events, lam quite sure that nothing will be gained by bearings on the interest of the two countries, and I
no facilities for ftinaud at present ? Had not tho world been A man might enter into partnership for ten years and in the --
presentation of a petition from that gentleman that h
entrance of what WAS suppposed to be the barbour, and allowing these matters to remain veiled in the seeresy of quite concur with him that there could hardly be any startled by aster . ding. disclosures of frauds practised under first all the money he advanced might be lost. For the next WAKEFIELD-Fnn. 8.
might be permitted to exercise his right to vote at the
behind them svhat was considered the admiral's ship, the Foreign-office. We have got into one war by the conflict between two nations that would be more cala- liell IS
t ill
wlaowniadshi.tt :xisted ? Afs:ilreefraeree.direchticilrepliizeitl:e nine years he might go on in this pleasa,nt position, that he The wheat market was steady, and more (lisp's' ea
election of an Irish peer. Since no petition of this; kindf
but which turned out afterwards to be a transport and system of secret diplomacy, and we may get into another mitous to both. (Hear, hear.) We should suffer a great e
far
coriorlfidtslotshealtromrhitetebunitatdheat hlef ntihigehLteta.kle hnis share of any operate if factors would consent to a decline of ls te ear
had been presented, he begged to give notice ttiatil
some other vessels. Shots were exchanged. Un- in the same way. " Where there is darkness there is deal ourselves, and those with whom we have dealings and spurioUvs carevdeily; lliiste would fosier swouonud andmwholesomee gis ahire comntneedd qr. on thie lhw rates of last Friday, but this bee
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within a fortnight such petition was not present d
der the circumstances Captain Elliott did right in not danger" is as true in politics as in the material world. on the other side of the Atlantic would suffer quite as credit. He could not allow the bill to pass the second read- •Fhis syetem they must go on ste b t
p h ep untr they ha ma e ceded on yin partied instances the business was of .1101.,
should move that the question be referred to the Com-
attempting to enter the harbour with his small force, This second dispute about our attempts at enlistment, much. There could be no conflict between two nations ing without contributing his humble tribute of admiration to •' : ' • '''
it perfect, and ienew all the provisions of the act of 1844, character. Barley in moderate demand but rather Jinn,
wide° of Privileges. and it afterwards turned out that it was not, as was be it remembered, is more imminent than the first. Ido more calamitous than one between this country and the the Government, and especially to the right hon. gentleman which they were now about to repeal. Theremust be entirely exce t f h • ' el slow"-
p or very c oice parcels. Beans, oats, an
Earl GRANVILLE-Abe* a week before the re- supposed, the real entrance to the harbour. With not know whether the noble lord intends to lay before United Seates. It would be painful to think tha.t in (Mr• Lc'we), for having introduced sucha messure-a measure new and stringent provisious, and after all fraud would baffle continuo to decline.
which, in his opinion, was based on sound economte princi- them, and in all probability they would only aggravate the
assembling of Parliament, I receiyed a letter from Lord regard to the bloekading the ports the hon. US the papers relating to this part of the subject ; but if these days two nations, bound together by so many ties,
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ples, and would prove exceedingly useful to the great bulk of evil by means of the very machinery provided to prevent it.
Fennoy, expressing an earnest desire) that this question ourable member real Captain Elliott's official report, he refuses, on the ground that the correspondence is not having a common origiu, a common interest, and a corn- EXETER-Fen. 8.
the community (Hear hoar ) He begged hon. members •to consider these things, and in or- ' So
should be decided ; and asking if I concurred with him and said that the excuse he had given for not doing it, completed, lamat a loss to see how we are ever to get munity of everything, should go to war without some Mr ARCHII•3AL ' * very clear ( •
DofHtrisThfitill
blipped that after the 1 .
.oth let that this important subject mig,ht be fully canvassed, lie CORN.-h-In our market wheat may bo quoted frolle
toSs 9(1. Maltine. ha ley 4s 6d to 43 d , ding `•-te" 0
in that wisb. I replied in -the affirmative, and requested on account of the badness of the weather, was sem. any wore papers on ang subject, for it W 39 only last real and unahoida.ble cause, and I cannot think in this and a:ble deseri tion fc!...*;7ldcz us re, t proposed to put off the committee on the bill al:lth mixt Mon-
Lord Fermoy to instruct his legal adviser to call upon cient. What was wanted, to force an entrance, was night that he declined to produce the papers relating to case there is such a real and unavoidable cause. If the (Mr. T. BaringP), the President ofYtlhiesl3hol would see des, fortnieht, in order that plenty of time mieht be • Od to Os Od. d'ats,r3s 'Oil to 3s 4d. 9 liean.sl,l Os Od -
me in London. The petition ha.s been settled and signed, steamers, and he thought the gallant captain did right the
,case of Mr. Curtie, our consul at Cologne, on the same spirit of firmness and conciliation be exhibited by the necessity of postponing the second reading. If it were for its eonsiderati n and that au amendmeas I glv'n Od. Peas,
t let sug- 00s Od to 00s Od. t iil
but, unfortunately, it has been mislaid ; but I will write in endeavouring to communicate with the admiral first ground that the correspondence was closed and the whole both governments, I doubt not some adjustment will be true, as had been stated, that there was a stron ll• fl. td th 1 ° 211 b t Yth
gpu)lc ee rug ges e emse ves mig te pu upon e paper. The lion FLOUR. -Fine, 50s Ocl to 51s Od ; seconds, 48s oa -0
to Lord Fermoy, and request him to have another drawn Ile also chose the night for that purpose, as being a matter finally settled. If he now refuses to give us these found compatible with the honour and feelings of the in favour of the bill, its postponement would enable the right member for Wick bad made an appeal to him on the subject. Ocl per sack. . a 014
up and signed. time when the Russians would not be likely to papers on the ground that they are net completed, he will the two countries. I can assure the house eir, that hou. geutlemau to carry it hereafter with ggeater eclat. In pro- of penal law. That was a matter which was hardly within CATTLE.-Prime beef, 10e 6tl per score ; cows all Al
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE gave notice of a mo- be aware of his movements. Captain Elliott invest himself with the entire responsibility ; for if we nothing will be wanting ou the part of her 'Majesty's posing such a change as this,the right hon. gentleman ought to his province, but a law did exist, and it was this. The law 11/. to 151. -s; butchers' calves, Old to 7d per lb., rei
tion to bring before the Committee 'of Privilegee certain adopted the course he thought most likely to are not to have the corresPOndence, either before or after Government consistent with a due regard to the honour tees:gni-in that there was at present a deficiency of capital ; of larceny laid it down that not only must a man take pro- calves -s to -s each. Sheep, sied to 6d. Lambe,.
o introduce additional ca ital the ert bu
it wero uecessaryt p p y, the must take it out of the possession of a person, 0(1 per lb. Store hoes large size 50s to 60s each • s t,
28 b ' - ' Pfir r
sto 34s e small 16s to 20s Rou h fat 4ed
grievances of Irish peers in voting for their representa- serve the capture of the Russian ships. it is finished, what hold can the country have upon the and character of this eountry-(cheers)--but nobody, I eGover ..
•nment should have adopted a plan by which frauds would A maa was trusted with money, and he was at liberty to n, . -, • • g •
tives in their lordships' houee. Mr. ELLIOTT defended the conduct of Captain noble lord and his Government ? This question of our ana sure, sir, could wish that we should ever for a mo- not be encouraged. As to the " dormant ' .
artner" meut,oned steal it and it onl beca,me a, civil tres ass Ho mi ht be 'ork carcases from 9s 6d to lOs 6sl per score.
THE NEW MINISTRY OF EDUCATION- Eiliott, and was sorry the subject had been introduced relations with the United States would, I think, be much wont 1040 sight of this. Nothing that oue gentleman in the bill, what was there t • tPli• t• ae t • ' Y • P. * g
o pieven im re nine a any trustee for orphan children, sell out their money, but he did
Earl GRANVILLE hegged to lay upon the table, in the manner it had been. He was sure Ca t FLY tt' f • the hands of the people and of this house, than could do towards another shall be omitted on our Part ti • •
p . e ro s sa er in me, without any one knowing that he was gone, and leaving not take it out of their ossession and did not come there- INVERNESS.-FEB. 5. e VP
and to auk their lordships to read a first time, a bill for conduct would bear investigation. of the Government or of the press. If there be a war for the Purpose of avoiding a collision that would be a the creditors to deal with men of straw ? The bill no doubt fore, within the o•'P . ' ' ' •
peration of the law. He fully admitted CORN.-Wheat, white, per qr 76 Od t 77 6-• 141
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the appointment of a Vice-Presideut of the Committee The subject then dropped. between Us and the United States, it will not be a war reProach to both countries. (Cheers.) I can only say, emanatzd from lawyers, who g„, nothing of commerce but that any alteration in that law evould be the greatest boon ley, chevaliee, 36s Od to 38s Od ; ditto, common, nee
of Council on Education. The bill contained a provision BUNHILL-FIELDS BURIAL GROUND. upon which the people will enter with a willing spirit ; sir, that one portion of this correspoedence shall be laid what aPPeared in the courts. It was said by some of its e•d- that could. be conferred upon the commercial world. ht the -s Od. Oats, 29s Od to ZOs Od. •dr
that this vice-president should have a seat in the House Mr. MIALL asked the Under Secretary for the Home if there be a collision, it will be provoked either by secret on the table at once ; and when the other is brought to weates that credit was at present too cheap, and that if it same time it was a matter with which ho could not deal, and MEAL.-Oatmeal, per imp. boll 248 Od to Zs 6d g.• l
were diminished so much second, 00s Od to Os Od ; barloymeal, 16s Cel to 1,71,0 a/
the batter. He wae of a different he had only to express a hope that it would be taken up by
of Commons ; and on the second reading he (the noble Department whether his attention had been called to diplomacY er bY the exasPerating language of the press of a termination, which I trust will not long be delaYed,
It was b
ophrion. y means of credit that this country had abler hands. peasemeal, 16s 6d to 20s Od ; bran, per stone, Os 94,r0g ts
earl) would explain to their lordships the alterations the fact that arrangements were being made and notices this countrY. What has been the language of the Minis- wo shall be perfectly ready to lay it before you. (Loud
Ist flour, per 2801 b, 60s Od to 62s Od ;2d ditto, o°li el
been able to produce to such an unparalleled extent, and it The bill was then read a second. time, and ordered to be
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which. it was intended to make by means of an order in served for the removal of the remains of persons buried terial journals on this subject ? Almost the, first thing cheers.) ed liability whicl
was unlimit i caused people in all parts of the committed on Monday, the 25th. 559 Ode oatmeal, best, per st. of 14.1 b impes-a-, ell r,
COunCtl, transferring to the new minister certain duties in the late Eunhiii.aeids gar • dch h t t hrd of this dispute was from an article in the Times Sir DE LACY EVANS had heard the explanation of
ying•groun , nrc -s ree , we ea world to place so much confidence in our merchants. This JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES BILL. to 2s Sel • ditto second, Os Oil to Os Od ; barleynot osek
120 w performed by other departments. Islington, and for using the ground for building purposee, newsPaPer in November, which told us, to our astonish- the noble lord with great satisfaction ; but he quite bill would go far to destroy that confidence, for no one would to 00s Oef. ; peasemeal, ls 8d to 2s Od ; lst flour, 359"
This bill was read a second three and orde • d
, re to be cone- 3s 9d credit ;2d ditto, as 4d cash, 3s 6d credit.
The bill was read a first time accordingly. and whether such proceedings were in Accordance with ment, that we were ready to go to war with America, agreed with the hon. member for the West Riding as to know in future whether those whom he dealt with proceeded •tt el M d th 2- 1
mi e on on ay, e ot i.
THE K.A.RS PAPERS. law ? but that we should still "Hold our hand on the throat the impelicy of attempting enlistment in the United under limited or nulintited liability. For the last 20 years .......-
BURIAL OF THE DEAD (IRELAND) BILL.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH remarked that the Mrs FITZROY Raid the Government had taken the of the Northern despot." Within the last fortnight, States. With regard to our quarrel with that Govern- the Board of Trade, from which this bill emanated, had, with BRISTOL SUGAR-Fle 8
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of one or two exceptions, been formed of men who were totally This bill was read a second time, and ordered to bo com- • . h'w - •
noble earl the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs ne k • • to the truth of the too, I have seen similar language in the Moraine Post ment, he considered the extravagant apprehensions
cessary steps to ma e inquiry as
ignorant of commerce, briefless lawyers, or at all eveuts men milted on the 25th. There is still no disposition shown here to pure s of
would shortly leave this country for Paris ; and as it state f d d 1 f d orrect, means and in the Times, which
.ae, the journals supposed to war entertained b th aty were very ill judged,
ments re erre to, an , i olio c y 0 peace p r
hose antecedents wero not such as to insure their MOSS- YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS (IRELAND) BILL. sugars, and until the refiners find a better vent fcf hoft
would be very desirable that the debate upon the papers would be taken to prevent its repetition. represent the opinions of the Ministry. I must say, and might prompt parties in that country to deinand
iwire commercial knowled . It wa su h liP produce than exists at present we cannot expect "%iati
relating to Kars should take place before the noble earl OUR RELATIONS WITH AMERICA. though I have watched the langua,ge of the American terms and conditions they would otherwise never have
ci ' d bill • ge s C
. uce a which would have the effect of destroynag credit committed in three weeks.
men who. ad pro- This bill was then read a second time, and ordered to bo an improved demand. It is n fall th nth. `pi
OW hr ree nie • Veer
(Lord Clarendon) quitted London, he wished to ask when - . e journals with considerable interest, I have seen no such thought of. It was consummate folly to attempt recruit- and giving p .t•
ar les opportunities of defrauding the public hy any transactions have been recorded in tho public oleo.
Mr. COBDEN then rose to ask for explanations 'rem HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICES BILL. here, a circumstance quite unprecedented • prices, e 01
those papers would be presented to their lordships. language in them as has appeared in the Times and the hig in the United States when two regiments of 1,000 schemes which could 'ever be brought to perfection, He ' Wolf '
roduction of the corresnon- This bill went through committee, and was ordered to be quelillY• aro nominal, but purchases could cer _4,0
Earl GRANVILLE wee not able to say, in the ab- the Government for the non-p = Mornznq Post. True, the journals of England generallY strong each might have been raised in Canada. An offer hoped tho right hon. gentleman would consent t t
o pus pone reported on Monday. be made at prices fully 25s per cwt. under those eto',;4o'
sence of his noble friend the Foreign Secretary, whom dence respecting our relations with America, He said- have not taken that hostile course, hut those journals to that effect was made by gentlemen of high position in the ,econd reading.
he expected to arrive in the course of a few minutes. I ask for these explanations because the answer given by which represent the Cabinet will be taken in America to the colony ;it Was accepted, but the red•tapism of the Mr. BIGGS said, as one who was connected with the ma- SUPPLY. Nov. last, if the buyers were disposed to repute isedi
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tions which; however they are not. Refined of all 100
THE DEBATE OF LAST NIGHT.
sthe noble lord at the head of the Government to my in. reprcent a large portion of Onr people. lam anxious, Horse Guards interferel, and. nothing wee done ; and nufacturing districts, lie could declare that there was a uni- The house then weut into a committee of supplApro forma sells ;hry 1' 1 d' • ' t d J5l -
sowy, an prices continue o mop.
Earl GREY-Seeing the noble and learned lord in .
r the other si ht does not a ear, for reasons I shall therefore, that we should not be the only persons in tine. therebY an opportunity was lost of still further identify- venal feeling in favour of the bill. (Hear, hear.) Ho himself and then resumed* there is little doing.
his place, I beg to ask him if he can give your lordships gut Y g .. 131) . country who are noL to discuss this subject. I desire ing the sympathies of Canada with this country. accepted it as the first stage in the amelioration of the law of CHURCH RATES.
explain, founded exactly on fact. I asked the noble lord artnership. He had. heard of many instances of the most Sir W. CLtY obtained leave to bring in a bill for the abo-
any information as to when the Committee of Privileges that we should be, in fact, the pulse of the nation in The subject then dropped, and the motion for the ad- P
will sit, and as to what coarse is to be taken ? whether there would be any objeceion to lay on the tbis question, as we are on any domestic question in journment was agreed to. painful kind, in which men who had retired from business in litiou of church rates, explaining that it would be nearly the . COAL MARKET.-Fen. 8.
the hope of spending the remainder of their days in ease had, same he introduced last year,
The LORD CHIEF JUSTICE-In the a,bsence of table of the house the correspondence respecting our whicla the people feel interested. I can hardly view as ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. through advancine mone to youn men from moti CAVALRY AND INFANTRY BARRACKS. Priest of Coal per ton at the close if the mark 4
my noble and learned friend (Lord Lyndhurst) it is im- preaent relations with America. The noble lord stated, possible so great a calamity, to both countries. and to Mr. MONSELL brought up the ordance estimates/ neholence been lellto Y g ves
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be-
, hopeless penury and wait. Such things On the motion of Sir J. PAXTON, there was ordered a a. cl.' Wallsend, f‘c. I. di
possible to give the noble earl any very satisfactory .n the world; aii a, hostile collision between En,gland and which were laid on the table. were cruel and unnecessary, and this bill would remove that I
1 h h rl • • f h
i rep y, tat t e cerrespon ence in neither ot e cases return of th b f 1 • d • Buddle W. Hartley lB C
e num er 0. cava ry an Infantry barracks .11 I
answer • but I may take this opportunity to expyess a the United States, and yet we are talking about it daily evil. The other day he was reading that at St. Etienne, a town Dagisen's West Hartley 18
METROPOLITAN POLICE BILL. erected •
in the United Kingdom durine the last 25 years '' Lambton ... ... ... .......... 16 0
hope th;t the course to be adopted by her Majesty s Go- to which my inquiry referred was quite completed, and in the press, we are speculating about it in private, and in the south of France which was devoted to the ribbon ma-
On the motion of Sir G. GREY this bill was read a third statin •
g the number ot men each barrack is able of accommo,- Holywell .. . l7 C Russell's Hetton .......... if ,
vernment will render it unneceasary to refer the subject on that ground he refused my appeal. Now, in order to the Government, in their correspondence, is bringing us f t h
nu ac ure, one- alf the present manufacturers had risen to datiu a I •
nc the averaee outlay per man Incurred in the build- Walker Primrose ...... l4 6 South Hettoia .............. ti ;
time.
of Lord Wensleydale's peerage to a committee at all. make my observations the more readily intelligible, I te a deadlock which will take away all chance of escape. that position through availing themselves of the state of the •e r h b le '''
HELLEY observed that the bill authorised one
Sir J. S . • in. o eac arrac -. Stoaeart'e. .................. 15 1
partnership law in that country. He had seen many young Wallsend, eic. Whitwell ..................
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(Loud cheers.) Ido not presume to offer any advice to mast • th t h •I h t V t f A war between this country and America, on whichever
premise a, un appi y, t ere are wo su Jae s o commissioner to sign all orders for the guidance of tho police RAMSGATE HARBOUR.
her Majesty's Ministers, who will no doubt receive it e. side success mi ht rest would be h mos ho ribl he
g , t e t r e, t force. He understood that those instructions wore always men in England emigrating, and thus lost to the country
h Id h • - ' On the motion of Mr MACKINNON ther d Gosforth . 15 9 Heugh Hall ............... se •
te existin at the present moment, and involving w o wou ave remained here had facilities been afforded to rh . . '1 „ • , e was ordere ae„ - .
from quarters far more entitled to attention ; but as a "LePu g most inhuman calamity, even to the victor, which could submitted to the Secreter of State, aud thou,ght it would. be copy o t e iepoits an( tatimates of General Williams, "arvey w pane 16 0 South Kelloe ............... le i
member of this house Ido Most earnestly hope that they very serious and grave considerations between this coun- possibly happen. Were we to succeed, it would be ve ' " ''
Y d h f fth
ry desirable if his approbation was state on t e ace o em, them for the development of their talents. He believed that
b tte 1 • '
yge mg tus bill passed, the right hon. gentleman would Royal Eneineers ro ardin the harbour of Ramsgato, pro- Riddell l5 t.. Tees ........................ is i
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will take a step, which, I believe, would be of infinite try and America. One has reference to the Central much like destroying our own offspring, and, were Sir G. GREY said, on all occasions of importance these ill- sented t ' ' g g
do more to benefit society than had been done by almost any '
o tho Board of Trade on the 9th of Jan., 185 e. Eden Main 16 6 Cowndon Tees ............. 0 1
benefit to the country, and will recommend her 11IajeetY American question of 1850. The house is aware, AMeTiCa teo crush England, it would be little better than structions were submitted to the Secretary of State, but they Bra.ddyll l6 6Carr'll Merthyr . ......... le .
newre which hut been as-ed durine the 1 t fif
. p e e as ty years. THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. Eletton lB fiDerwentwater Hartle/ ...
to confer upon Sir Jas. Parke, late a Baron of the Ex- though the h • t h • 18-0 tl parricide. I hope, therefore, that we shall not be afraid were si
country, per aps, is no ,tat in a ie gned by the commissioners of police in their capacity .G. C GLYN sai
. d, though he was not in favour of the Mr. H EADLAM moved for leave to bring in a bill for tho Ho • • '
tton Lyons Main l6 0 ,
chequer, the title of Lord Wensleydale in fee, with de- to approach this question, that we shall not refuse to of magistrates, and not az commissioners. bill, he must confess that he could not see the slightest ground better regulation ef the medical profession. The bill he said 41
English and American Governments entered into a con- The bill theta passed. .
Ships at market... 89 I Sold
scout to the heirs male ef his body. That would put an understand what it is we are quarrelling about, but that for requestin the Governmeut to ost one h
g p p t e second read- was brought in towards the latter part of the last session uon
end to this agitation ; for lam sure that your lordships venation most benign in its object and somewhat novel in we shall call for the papers and shall show the country PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT BILL. ing. Indeed he washot sure that, with some modification of an understanding between members of the profession andPthe , - .
.
would one and all receive Lord Wensleydale into this its character, for the purpose of guaranteeing, the con- that we are prepared to deal fearlessly and honestl • h
y wit Mr. LOWE moved the second reading of this bill. its cLauses, the bill was not on the whole the best settlement Home•hffice that it shouldnot be prosecuted further that session 824480RN8 MAILS.
house with the greatest pleasure. (Hear.) If that 'traction of a canal across the isthmus of Darien. The the issue which may be laid before us. (Hear.) Mr. SPOONER could not allow the bill to be read a se- of the question at which the house was like to arrive. It was but that it shouldbe circulated amongstthe medical societies and A
course wm adopted, the questiOtt viould still be left open, convention beoins by expressing a hope and desire that Lerd PALMERSTON-I shall obeerve in m It' 'th t -11• th attention of the house to the
y reply con( nne wi ou ce mg e almost impossible that any man who had been mixed up with accordingly it was sent to the Royal Colleges of Physicians and
the commercial effeirs of this cou h. sho
n, y uld not hare per- Surgeons, in London, Edinburgh, Dublin, and Glasgow and ( --•••---_
ii r*
tor
N signifies that the mails are sent from the Geezer
and if at any future time any pressing necessity should it mi h h 'll ff t th tl • f rot t
g t ave tee ec , among o er 'lngo, o p no - to the hon. gentleman that distinction in the two ques- consequence which must ensue if it passed in its present . "
ceived that a er reet chanee in th worigne
yy g . , e e 1e of the LAW of to all the medical societies aud meiversities throughou't the ey the
:trier, for making a peer for life, it might still be done, as ina peace and amity between the contracting Powere, shape. The right hon. gentleman had introduced it with a . night-and Mby the morning-despatch.) •
tions which he has desired. And first, with regard to partnership had arisen from the recent alteration in the usury kingdom. It was also sent to private individuals interested
very plausible statement. Ile asked, was it fair or was it _
the question would not then be prejudiced by anything an• •• • • h h h ld Th b• t- Ith
civilisation t roue out t e wor . e o jec * e laws and that it was nec,s,
, . e ,ary to do something to meet the in the question. By the coartesy of the Home-office he had seen
that has occurred. I, for one, should certainly much • 'bl rt. t
convention was to ena e pa ies o con. uc a sep
gth t i ; the Central American question, he is correct in saying reasonable that a person who lent money to a concern, who
case of persons who lent money at a usurious rate of interest the answers which hd b return d 1
a oen e , au( he found so much Day when made up prole weal pi el,
was not known to the world, to whom credit was not given, COUNTRIES. in General Post- Port 05
rejoice if this course was adopted, for lam satisfied that canal through the narrow isthmus of Celetral America. that the treaty of 1850 was honourable to both the par- aud afterwards came in as creditor II h d th . d ' • '' .
a no ear arty unanimity la the profession cm the question of reform, that he
should lose all the capital he had embarked if the concern °Mee, London.* Dispatched. n
it is the course that would mast conduce to the welfare under a s •fi t f th tracting Powers. ties to it, having for its object and end the im .
peci c guarau ee rom e con provement turned out unfavourable' The bill, however went a great reason assigned for the omission o;•those clauses in tho bill thought in bringing forward this measure he was in a better - - hhe e
the country. Toe convention was intended to be elaitic in its opera- ot commerce and the extension of civilisation i d 1 f h U d • • '
n every ea art er. nerit a man might advance capit, to a
, .
al of last session which provided for publicity and registration, position than any other person who had ever introduced the Aelleriee(bylirit.pack)N Every "day •• •• Liverpool ••• . - I
The Earl of DERBY-My lords, I wish still less, tion, for the contracting Powers contemplated inviting
Dart of the world. It is well known that the greatest in- • • (1 d • h• b bta• cl• t
person in tra e, an enable him tmey to o in cre it o a and precluded the sudden withdrawal of capital, and he was subject. In the first place he would state to the house one
afraid that without th th If
, em, Is ill would open the door to all thing that his bill did not do. Ho did not seek to interfere America (by United Ste.
packet) ..........N /ye9.l
s• '••••• • • Liverpool .• • 1 .
and I have still less ground. for offering advice to her other Powere to join in the guarantee. Among other • largo amount. If after a time he found the concern unpro- amaegteea. (by U. States IFeD''
Majesty's Ministers, than the noble and learned lord things it was provide,' that, in case of war ships passing terest was excited by the question of a ship caual to fitable he might withdraw his capital, but the trader would sorts of frauds. Let the house do what they could to leave with the rights of the British subject, which he somewhat •• •• •• • - Sonthemeta
who has just addressed you ; but I cannot help think- through this canal, or being within a certain dietance ef unite the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, but jealousies grew still enjoy the credit ho had obtained by the use of it. Was ithimpaired the general credit of the country. If hon. gentle- freely exercispd, of obtaining medical advice and assistance Alstralia (via Bouth- .
ing that the suggestion of the noble lord is one that its entrance, they should not be subject to capture or me!. up between England and the United S • h
. tates wit regard it fair, in such a case, to allow the party who had advanced men only bore in mind how large a, portiou of the conamercial from aleV PerEfon whatever, although that person had not eone ameten) •• •• •• •• ••M ••••• ••• •• • • Southametoe
transactions of this country took place, not on book credit through any training or professional educatien. That p'• • Ditto (via Marseilles) N
the money to escape all liability? To make the law at all
well deserves the consideration of the Government. By iestation. History scarcely presented an example of a to it • merely, but on bill credit, the bills passing from hand te hand lege was exercised to a very great extent, for the couldria Ditto (via Cape of Good, 00 i
, each supposing that the other had some exclusive ee 't bl 't sh 11 •1 th • - t It' b
in a e, 1 ou ( provu e at in caee a par ners rp o-
Hope) •• .• • • •• •• ••N i
adopting that course, they will raise no unnecessary convention entered into for objects more commanding and the endorsements upon them being supposed to represent take. up any country news a m whl t . • y •'• ifele
object in view, and wished to establish itself at one or came insolventt the sleeping partner sliould be liable to the ppe 1 ion soeing what large Africa (West Coast)..Nl93d of the month.. Plymouth .• I
questions upon a point of extreme difficulty, as be- approbation. The convention was agreed to in 1850, but, credit, they must perceive that if capital mieht be secretl sum§ of money mst b
u e expended iii that way. It would be Alexandria .......... Nl9, 9. 24, &30 elm. Dover .. •• • '
tween the prerogative of the Crown and the House of o wing to the unfortunate propensity of diplomatists to ether end of the canal to be made. The ohjectof the treaty am= of capi
had tal he had withdrawn, and also any profit h
eived. He would not oppose the pi•esent motion, but withdrawn, the effect would be gtl t • •tl t •Y 'l. VV. 11 t
pea y o impair la species pet es ii- e o attempt to restrain praetisers of that deserip- Alexandria..........At 4th & 20th of mon. Bouthamptee '
Lords. Even if there was a doubt as to the strict involve their sentences in phraseology which becomes concluded wits to remove all possible cause of j I
ea ousy on unless finch a clause was inserted in committee, he would di- of credit. Ile was glad th tth '
a • right hon. gentletnan hadnot tion. But one part of his bill was to provide are istration Bahamas ...........klith of the month Serithemetcr neflf,
le alit of
g y the patent granted to Lord Wensleydale, I unintelligible not only to others but to themselves, it that point, and its provisions were, it was thou I t I dth h • tth • fthl 'I If tt d
gl, ca . VI o e ouse agains • progress o e 311 , e regre e proposed to adopt the law of commandite, being convinced of legally-qualified practitimaers, for he thought it wgas due to Bolgiuna ~...........NlDallY.• .......... Dover .... • • .See 11:
9th of the month Southampton .- I,
that it would not ha e b n f 1
v ee oun( consonant with the feelings the medical profession that any person who was a leeallv- Brazil ..............M _ . _ .. . re, A
think, after what passed last night, and after what fell seemed likely to be the cause of very serious queue' that the right hon. gentleman had not further postponed the etli f the mouth.. Southanietcn tfeesP"
culated to accomplish that end. The project of a canal was, of the people. qualified practitioner should have the power of letting' tiae cnurrAYG reel F....MN o
from all the independent law lords-after what fell from between the two countries. His hon. friend the member second readin •
g ; the result would be another discussion on a Various poll
the Lord Chief Justice (who, so far as he takes part for Duran•ies had proposed in this house that there I believe, liable to physical difficulties, which there was future stage of it. .. ‘ Mr. MALINS was strongly in favour of the principle, but fact be "own to the world. Ho would leave the public at gaa•pe°°of Grod Ilooppee ...le wle If
admitted that a few safeguards should be provided in coin. liberty to go where they pleased for advice, but at -the same CIO() de Yards .-.....ei 9th of the month itouthameto 'e •
in political questions, is attached to the present govern- should be an examin . ' • • •
anon of candidates for service in the much chance of overcoming, so that, practically, that part Mr. WATSON was entirely favourable to the principle of
mittee (Hear hear I time he would give them au 'opportunity of ascertaining who Ceylon (see India) NI
the bill, but he thought it required to be amended so as to • ' h 111
meat), and from the noble end learued lord near me diplornetic career, and I weuld e _et him to re uire of the question is not irate' ediately involved in the r -
ugge q . p e
define accurately what was meant by a sleepine partner A vere pre srly qualified •
Mr. CARDWELL thought that owing to the repeal of the 1 . P . . This was due to the members of the Cey10n..............N
__
to, he,
(Lord Brougham), there can be no doubt that .the OA I.fi .
e qua i cation-namely, that they should be able to sent diepute. But there was in that treaty also a purpose si • . . e • • usury laws it was necessary for the house to take into consi-
eeping partner ought not to interfere in any way in the eon- . medical profession themselves. For gentlemen who had Sihtitilrimel 151e5....,...N meneWedearlid. SouthaMP : i
. ..........le 21 &17th et month Bouthameto' e '
ft '
granting of !that patent was in the highest degree uro write plain and intelligible English. In the present else the jealousy which the two countries enter- trol of the concern. There was another part of the bill which
of olevi • • •
Mang deration the state of the law relating thcentracts. He quite studied hfiydo aitiltilepassed a severe examination, ought to have China-......
constitutional. (Hear, hear.) When we see that so this unfortunate disagreement seems to be the mere un- he considered worild prove highly beneecial, that which al- thhught that the principle of a bill was to be found in its de- the bone f
~ titles and degrees which they had earned at Constantinople ......ei 8;13,111,23,&28 off]; Dover ...• • •
ro,
tained with regard to the views of each other in Central tails, and that upon these depended the safety ef a meesure. great expense. Wear.) There were at present about 22 Constantinople
many uoble lords, who on most occasions vote with the accountable because both the diplomatists spoke the ' lowed a clerk or servant to be paid by a share of the profits.
America. The turther purpose of the treaty, therefore, The question was whether a contract between a sleeping part_ different bodies who exercised various powers as to licensing Cont. of Europe M& N Twice daily •• •• • • DMZ' •• •• • .
ope
Government, hint night recorded their votes againat it. same language, whereas had it been a convention he- (Hear.) Since the decipion of Lord Eldon in " Waugh v. Car-
-1 cannot but think that her liilajesty'a Ministers will tween a German and an Englishman, or a Frenchman WaS that each country should disclaim any intention of ver," it was held that in sneh. ease the clerk wa.s a. parteer. ner and the other partners that he should receive a portion of members of the medical profession. In Englaaid there Were F•worPt (lee IndialLe ~,, ,
N Twice da11y...... Dever ...... roi
best consult, not only the public interests, bat also as and an Englishman, there might have been some ex- dominatian or gaining possessions in that part of the The ease in the law would have a most beneficial effect, as a tbe profits of title Igusiness was so entirely between himself and the universities of Oxford, Cambridge, London, and Durham, ihrit,rn:len;,:•••• •• - - le 7
........ _3l, „ 17. SO. 97 ef tre &althea:mull
clerk when paid by a share of profit would be stimulated to h
. .I:ITT;;Tst t iat itniethoofusliiil require no publication or registra- although there were doubts about the validity of their Greece Owe India) I
connected with them, the rights and prerogatives attic euse for the misunderstanding. From 1850 down to world. An exception was made with regard to certain increased exertion for the interest of his employer. When the ti. ,
of i. was o e eh intetest to the Public that regis- degrees as eatitling a man to practise. Then there were in Greytown ...., ...eltl2nd &17th of mon. Southamptee ~,
Crown, if they do net unnecessarily raise the question Oct. in last year this convention hail been the subject of eh's, which were under •
our protection by treaties bill went into committee he would give every assistance in tiation it was n cessary. This ought to be answered in London the College of Physicians, which had the exclusive Hamburgh .. ........141Tuesday & Friday London ..... ,h,r-
of the strict legality of these peerages. Let them not correspondence between this country and the United the bill, and must be considered by the committee. He did I
mwer of conferring licences for London and within seven Havanna,
..........lei2nl of the month tiouthausptoe '4/40
a hich existed for a long time. I do not think, myself, his power to render it as perfect as possible,
cancel the present patent, but let them issue a new one States ; and in Oct. of last year a letter written by Mr. Holland .. ~ .... M IDally•• ••• • • • •••• Dover ...... Lehrol
3lr. MUNTZ had already expressed his opinion that the 'rot desire to take to himself any credit which was not hi 3 miles of it. Then there wee the College of Surgeons I' h
, W iic Honduras ..
in the usual form. That second patent may be pro- Buchana,n to Lord Clarendon closed the correspondence, that the treaty is liable to the criticisms which th h
e on . duo, and as some had been attributed to hien he would give had the power of licensing', generally throughout En
• bill was a delusion, but he had no objection to let the Mini- g- India (viaSonthampt.)mi4th t 20th of mon. Plymouth •• -
duced by Lord Wensleydale at your lordehips' ber with and in Dec, on the meeting of Congress, the correspori. gentleman cast upon it, fur I confess it seems to nie that them a short history of this ineesin.e In the COS ' 1-0 land. In Scotland there wer •
_ stry ride their hobby as long as they liked, provided they rode _ . , , • , . SIOLIS 8o , e various bodies who licensed for India (via Maniehieswa *9thk2sth of month MYST •••• ••
roii,
the writ of summons ; and .i am quite sure that dence, so far as it relates to the American side Of the con- the meaning and the words of the treaty are perfectlY ir, iu üblic He looked on the bill from a commercial point and 1831 a committee was successively appointed to consider small districts, and there was not at the present moment a lonian Isles (see India) 7,17, &27 of mon Dover•• •• •• ' ..
We shall all gladly receive) amongst 113 the learned troversy,was laid °floe table of Congress ; and I mention plain and obvious, and I cannot see how an h 'P •
yot er con of view. Suppose the case of a trader who was known to this subject, mai that committee recommended that power body-be it university or college-which had the ower of Ireland .• •• .. ll & N Twice daily ...... Hole head .. ewes,
, Li5b0n............ „ei7, 9, 17. &270 f m. Bouthampte! ,'"
gentleman into the question of whose rights I and the this because the noble lord says that the correspondence is struction can be pUt on it than that which we gave it carry on his business in a discreditable wa , aud conse u tly should bo given to lend money for any time not less than 12 liceusiug to practise medicine mnerall These Pnflictin
die Madeira ............m 9th et the month Southampto,
noble lorde with rne have been 1130 St unwillingly drawn. not complete. I wish to seParate this sub•ect from that It is pros pecjve, and not merely retrospective iu its o e unable to obtain credit ; if he could get :third art queuncle-r months, at a rate of interest verging with the Profits of the jurisdictions gave rise to much l'confusiyo; and to co
Madeira ............N Ind of -
month .. Liverpool ... A
The univereal feeling, lam sure, will then be one of of the enlistment, in res h• h j f t. lt seems, however, that the Government Pof this new law to ilvauce him
pect to w ic we are un eau. ra ion. money he might introPdue3re it into business n which it was invested. The difficulty was whether culties. An Englishman would not be able to manY.
•
practise in Malta (see India) ile S"
pleasure and eatisfaction that we should have added a nately involved in a dispute with America, and I hope the United States endeavoured to esta,blish A diferent his business, and he would soon obta.in credit, as parties in private partuershie the person advancing a sum of money Scotland, nor a graduate of Edinburgh in London, however Malta ..............N SOS.' &29 of mon. Dover - ..., •
would suppose that he was acquiring capital by the profits; should be considered a creditor or a Partner. The effect of able he might he. This bill would provide for equality of Mauritius (soe India) 0
name so honoured and distinguished to our rolls. (Hear, the noble lord will giye an answer in reference to this construction, and a correspondence between the two
itte1ric0tin5...........14 14th of the month reti, -
but if the profits were not great tho sleeping partner might d
theolreg:tsltotn that iti, personraring money would be a ere. edneattilthfiaot was that a man who held the title of a pliye h
h, h
hse 2nd of the month., BoathemPtsl '
bear.) My lords, I did. not intend to say a single word subject as diAinet from the °ther• We have the corre. Governments ensued on the subject. We contended
on this occasion. I have not seen my noble and learned spondence Published in the United St"tes ; it has also for our interpretation, and the American , Govern- scerteltr
T.orulhr
fileir,voi,!
etsrat:thh,2.,tsgiL2t.ottr:ccileer tt
having a greatter ra(MtZe '::har:' nt b:niznssiftneidlritiss i
• eSZand, for all et
I:ktiohapvretise.
lirironh
g(el., Ireland, s,nd Now,
~,,. :: ...... „„ellsthleth2sthormon. Dover .....
friend mince be left the house last night, and I have no been published in England, and I hold in my hand a ment, or at least their Minister here, contended for a trimeut of the public. If they wished to adopt the Americaa; knowledge of the atlisirs of the partnership, his mouey should lum of study, and it would be geertain gthat he
sem
reeuererieveeud- rr:: itnardis
.......2e ry&pl!ilvtatofstmionte flitaaithousaineti?; ye,
idea what is the course he intends' to pursue ; but I join Pamphlet containing itf Published and Purchaseable in different one, We stated that though we were con- law, let them adopt it entirely. By it a sleeping partner remain uutil the time for the payment if the general debts of this Proper education from whatever quarter he might come. Papal States ..g...........y: sthleth2sthogon. Dever ..P°•• •
with the Lord Chief Justice) in hoping that it will not be London for about is, Nevertheless I cennot quote this vinced our interPretation was kVA, we were perfectly was obliged. to give public notice of the, amount he ad- the creditors ; and this time had been variousl; proposed from The same principle would apply to surgeons. Ho would also Peninsula ..........M ithl7th27thefirion. Southampte,
0001
three te nine months. He should most gladly vote for the Provide for reciprocity of practice, by which he meant that a Peru •• '...........et Id & 27th of mon.lSouthamptei
found necessary to have this question considered by the correspondence, though it is discussed in tee news. ready to submit the question to the arbitration of a third vanced, and of his withdrawal when it took pine. Port Natal . 2 ivate ship.. Various 14
......14 sthlf h . I*
tribunal to which the houee last night considered it right papers and made a topic of conversation in private. I Party. (Hear:, To that offer we have not been able to Mr. CAIRNS (lid not rise to oppose the bill, but only to second reading Of the bill. member of the College of Physicians in London might, if he Sicily , •**
...
h..
„.....2,/ . t 25thofmem, Dover .... • ;4
that it ought to he referred. can only bring forward a motion founded on documents obtain any answer, and so the matter rests. I did eay, say a few words in justification of the course he and some . Mr- A. PELLITT said there were many points in the went to Glasgow, enrol his name as a member there, and be
bill which he much approved. of. There was one point to at once entitled to practise. And so vice versa. He would Venezuela ..... ....DI
Tu5cany`............14 sthleth2ethefirien. Dover .... , il."
24 & 17th olmontb Southampt; '
Lord BROUGHAM. expected that Lord Lyndhurst before Parliament. The answer given to my •
queetion in anzwer to the hon. gentleman, I did not consider the others had takea last seesion. When the last Partnership
Amendment Bill had been introduced he considered it too which he would call the atteutiou of the home. He hoped also provide for general registration, the principles of which Van Diemena Lan' e (see . i 'OO
would have been in the house at five o'clock, but he the other eight by the noble lord was, that this curre- correspondence closed, and therefore) could not lay it on
cumbrous to work and proposed te introduce three short and that the Government would give some protection against cer- ho had already explained. (The hon. and learned gentleman ye"! Tetragiln) •• •• •• •• •• ill.//
must have been detained elsewhere. seondence was not complete ; but he must have been the table ;. but, e.e..ref!rring again th. the
.state of. the simnie . . ' 1 }
CiatISPR _he faun( t iat the nresent bill of the rieht tain companies-es gas and water companies -eivine a worse proceeded to read extracts from the answers that had been "es' "i'Ll'es •• -• • ••7•1 2d & 17th ol monthl3onthamptel , d ,
'ET 1 eN il • ..... 1- , -r. . , . .

Lord BROUGHAM expected that Lord Lyndhurst
would have been in the house at five o'clock, but he
mud have been detained elsewhere.
Earl GRANVILLE moved that the house do new
adj,narn, and
Their lordships rose at half-past fire,

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour.
NEW MEMBERS.
Mr. SAMUEL WARREN t3ok the oaths and his seat for
Midhurst.

Lord RAYNEIA3I too! the oaths and his seat for
Tamworth.
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS JURISDICTION

BILL.

Mr. COLLIER brorght in this bill, which was reed
a first time.

Sir J. NVALMSLEY presented a petition from Lei•
center, praying for an investigation into the circum-
stances relative to the fall of Kars. The petitioners
prayed that it might be known who were to blame for
withholding succour from that place.
On the motion of Mr. FITZ ROY, certain returns re-
lative to Coanty Courts and the business therein were
ordered.

Mr. MASTERMAN moved for a return of the num-
ber of gallons of foreign wine imported : of the quanti-
ties upon which duty had been paid for home consump-
tion, and the quantities exported ; also the quanties ex-
ported on drawback, and the quantities retained for
actual consumption in the United Kingdom, for the
year ended the 31st of December, 1855. And of the
number of proof gallons of rum, dietiuguishieg West
India, East India, and foreign ; also of brandy, Geneva,
and other foreign, colonial, or Jersey spirits imported ;
of the quantities upon which duty has Leen paid for
home consumption, the quantities exported, and the
quantities shipped as stores and used by the navy, for
Ole year ended the 31st of December, 1855, together
with the quantities of each sort remaining in bond on
the 31st of December, 1855.—Agreed to,
Colonel DUNNE gave notice that when the Army
and OrdnanceEetimatee were before the house he should
call attention to the means of supplying the army, and
also ask whether any chauge was to be made in the War
Department.

troversy, was laid on the table of Congress; and I mention
this because the noble lord says that the correspondence is
not complete. I wish to separate this subject from that
of the enlistment, in respect to which we ore unfortu-
nately involved in a dispute with America, and I hope
the noble lord will give an answer in reference to this
subject as distinct from the other. We have the corre•
spondence published in the United States ; it has also
been published in England, and I hold in my hand a
pamphlet containing it, published and purchaseable in
London for about ls. Nevertheless I cannot quote this
correspondence, though it is discussed in tue news-
papers and made a topic of conversation in private. I
can only bring forward a motion founded on documents
before Parliament. The answer given to my question
the other right by the noble lord was, that this corre-
e,,ondence was not complete ; but he must have been
in error in making that statement, because Lord Claren-
don, in September, 1555, in his last letter to Mr.
Bee'ianan on the subject, uses these words :--
" Her Majesty's Government had, indeed, refrained from
pursuing the discussion by replying to Mr. Buchanan's note
of the 22d of July, 1554, because it appeared to them that
the continnatioa of the correspondence was not likely to load
to any satisfactory conclusion ; and, as Her Majesty's
Ministers are still of that opinion, the undersigned wit con-
fine his answer to Mr. Buchanan's present note within the
same limits as thos.3 which Mr. Buchanan has prescribed to
himself."

1 Mr. Buchanan also, in last October, assents t) Lord
Clarendon's statement that the correspondence is con-
cluded. He says :
" While far from intending to renew the general discus-
sion of these questions, which has already been exhausted,
the undersigned, in passing, would make a single observa-
tion, ic."
Moreover, it was
,Mr. Clayton himself, a party to the
treaty, who in moving, in the American Senate, that
the papers should be printed, stated that the correapon-
deuce was concladed. If I wanted a conclusive proof
that the correspondence was ended, I shoul find it in
the f set stated by Lord Clarendon in the House of Lords
that the subject matter of dispute had been offered to be
referred to arbitration, thus plainly admitting that the
discussion is absolutely at an end. I therefore think
that this house ought not to be wholly unacquainted
with the nature of that correspondence, and I hope that
the nobls lord will not object to its production, or, if he
does, that he will give sortie other ground for his.objecs
tien than that alleged the other night. The other dis-
pute is one of more recent date. Last year we sent
emissaries to America, to enlist men for our foreign
legion. Now, I should like to know who were those
wise individuals who, sitting in council, and feeling a
great want of men to fight this battle which we were
told England was able to fight against the Ruvions.
Why, the stream of human labour going from the East
to the West every year amounts to 300,000 or 400,000
human beings. We ourselves send from 50,000 to
100,000 men annually to America, to seek their fortune
by the superior remuneration of labour, and I should
have thought it as likely to have rolled back the seasons
or to have turned the river in its course as to send to
the United States to find able-bodied men, where they
are earning 4s, or ss. a-day each, to fight for us iu a
semi barbarous region for about Is. a day. It was so '
absurd and foolish a prcject that I should like to know
who are the parties responsible for it. We have no cor-
respondence published on this subject, either here or in i
America ; therefore I only go on common rumour and
on what was admitted by Lord Clarendon in
another place. It seems that, on remonstrance
from the United States, we admitted our error
and countermanded our orders, withdrawing our i
enlistment establishments not only from the United 1
States, but from our own North American colonies.
Iu this respect our amende and apology were most I
honourable. I do not know the terms of the apology,
but I am told that the apology, when made, wits con-
sidered satisfactory. But I am told that after that
another transaction took place, not in violation of Ame-
rican law, but in evasion of it, which has re-opened the
grievance. I do not know how this is, for we have no
ot7.,cial information before us, and I only state what I
am given to understand is the fact. All I wish to point
out to the house is, that our Government has admitted
we havk
itself to be in error. We are in the wrong, and, when
admitted that to be the case, whether we make
reparation in one form or another does not appear to
me to be of any great importance. If you tread on a
man's toes, it does not very much matter whether you
say to him, ",T beg your pardon," or "I beg ten thou-
sand pardons. That never would be a point on whick
any sensible men would go out to fight. Let it be
borne in mind, then, that we are, by the confession of
our own Government, in the arrows, and, as we stand
responsible in the name of the country for the acts of
our Government, I think it would be well if we had this
correspondence laid before us, even if it be not com-
pleted ; and for this reason—l am inclined to suspect
that this question has assumed very much of a personal
character, that it has been envenomed and embittered
in the course of the protracted correspondence; and I
think, therefore, that if it were taken away from the
Foreign-office, and discussed in the country or in this
house, there would be displayed such a magnanimous
feeling on the part of the people and of the members of
this house that the quarrel would be at once put a stop
to. There has been a talk of arbitration in the other

subject of dispute, and I believe eee slaculd find some
such mode of settling this euestion in the most honourabls
and satisfactory manner. In private life, in quarrels on
matters of etiquette, it is not the usual course for the
person who has committed the wrong to fix the repara-
tion. Seconds are called in, and they decide what shall
be the apology to be made ; and, if this question were
brought before the house, I have no doubt we
should find out means of escaping from the diffi-
culty. Besides, the country would be much more at ease
if the subject were discussed by us, and there would
be an end to that alarm and apprehension which now
exists among the mercantile community lest every fresh
packet should bring intelligence that Mr. Crampton has
received his passports and is on his way home. At all
events, I am quite sure that nothing will be gained by
allowing these matters to remain veiled in the secresy of
the Foreign-office. We have got into one war by the
system of secret diplomacy, and we may get into another
in the same way. " Where there is darkness there is
danger" is as true in politics as in the material world.
This second dispute about our attempts at enlistment,
be it remembered, is more imminent than the first. I do
not know whether the noble lord intends to lay before
us the papers relating to this part of the subject ; but if
ho refuses, on the ground that the correspondence is not
completed, I am at a loss to see how we are ever to get
any more papers on any subject, for it was only last
night that he declined to produce the papers relating to
the icase of Mr. Curtis, our consul at Cologne, on the
ground that the correspondence was closed and the whole
matter finally settled. If he now refuses to give us these
papers on the ground that they are net completed, he will
invest himself with the entire responsibility ; for if we
are not to have the correspondence, either before or after
it is finished, what hold can the country have upon the
noble lord and his Government? This question of our
relations with the United States would, I think, be much
safer in the hands of the people and of this house, than
of the Government or of the press. If there be a war
between us and the United States, it will not be a war
upon which the people will enter with a willing spirit ;
if there bo a collision, it will be peovoked either by secret
diplomacy ar by the exasperating language of the press of
this country. What has been the language of the Minis-
terial journals on this subject ? Almost the, first thing
we heard of this dispute was from an article in the Tintas
newspaper in November, which told us, to our astonish-
ment, that we were ready to go to war with America,
but that we should still "Hold our hand on the throat
of the Northern despot." Within the last fortnight,
too, I have seen similar language in the Morning Post
and in the 7illies, which , are the journals supposed to
represent the opinions of the Ministry. I must say,
though I have watched the language of the American
journals with considerable interest, I have seen no such
language in them as has appeared in the Times and the
Morning Post. True, the journals of England generally
have not taken that hostile course, but those journals
which represent the Cabinet will be taken in America to
represent a large portion of our people. lam anxious,
therefore, that we should not be the only persons in the
country who are noe to discuss this subject. I desire
that we should be, in fact, the pulse of the nation in
this question, as we are on any domestic question in
which the people feel interested. I can hardly view as
possible so great a calamity, to both countries and to
the world; as a hostile collision between England and
the United States, and yet we aro talking about it daily
in the press, we are speculating about it in private, and
the Government, in their correspondence, is bringing us
to a deadlock which will take away all chance of escape.
A war between this country and America, on whichever
side success might rest, would be the most horrible, the
most inhuman calamity, even to the victor, which could
possibly happen. Were we to succeed, it would be very
much like destroying our own offspring, and, were
America to crush England, it would be little better than
parricide. I hope, therefore, that we shall not be afraid
to approach this question, that we shall not refuse to
understand what it is we are quarrelling about, but that
we shall call for the papers and shall show the country
that we are prepared to deal fearlessly and honestly with
the issue which may be laid before us. (Hear.)
Lord PALMERSTON—I shall observe iu nay reply
to the hon. gentleman that distinction in the two ques-
tions which he has desired. And first, with regard to
the Central American question, he is correct in saying
that the treaty of 1850 was honourable to both the par-
ties to it, having for its object and end the improvement
of commerce and the extension of civilisation in every
part of the world. It is well known that the greatest in-
terest was excited by the question of a ship canal to
unite the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, but jealousies grew
up between England and the United States with regard
to it, each supposing that the other had some exclusive
object in view, and wished to establish itself at one or
ether end of the canal to be made. The object of the treaty
concluded was to remove all possible cause of jealousy on
that point, and its provisions were, it was thought, cal-
culeted to accomplish that end. The project of a ca.nal was,
I believe, liable to physical difficulties', which there was
much chance of overcoming, so that, practically, that part
of the question is not immediately involved in the pre-
sent dispute. But there was in that treaty also a purpose
of obviating the jealousy which the two countries enter-
tained with regard to the views of each other in Central
America. The further purpose of the treaty, therefore,
was that each country should disclaim any intention of
domination or gaining possessions in that part of the
world. An exception was made with regard to certain
&lin, which were under our protection by treaties
~shich existed for a long time. I do not think, myself,
that the treaty is liable to the criticisms which the hon.
gentleman cast upon it, fur I confess it seems to me that
the meaning and the words of the treaty are perfectly
plain and obvious, and I cannot see how any other con
struction can be put on it than that which we gave it
It is pros pective, and not merely retrospective iu its ope
ration. It seems, however, that the Government of
the United States endeavoured to establish a different
construction, and a correspondence between the two
Governments ensued on the subject. We contended
for our interpretation, and the American ' Govern-
ment, or at least their Minister here, contended for a
different one, We stated that though we were con-
vinced our interpretation was just, we were perfectly
ready to submit the question to the arbitration of a third
party. (Hear.'s To that offer we have not been able to
obtain any answer, and so the matter rests. I did say,
in answer to the hon. gentleman, I did not consider the
correspondence closed, and therefore could not lay it on
the table ; but, on referring again to the state of the
correspondence, I think, though not formally closed, it
is sufficiently so to enable us to lay it before the house,
and lam therefore quite willing to give it. (bear.)
The other question arose out of the Foreign Enlistment
Act. It is true that when that act passed, authorising
the Government to enlist foreigners, it was represented
to her Majesty's Government that there were in the
'lgnited States a number of men who might be willing to
enlist in the military service of this country. The hom
gentleman conceived it to be morally and politically
absurd to suppose that the tide of emigration, which
had been flowing from east to west, could be turned
back and made to flow from west to east. But
if he inquired I should think he must know that
in point of fact that ebb of tide has already begun—and
that with regard to Ireland there is hardly a month or a
week passes that a certain number of persons who emi-
grated from that country to the United States are not
returning, either having amassed what they consider a
campeteney, or because they have been disappointed in
the expectations which they formed when they left home.
Already, therefore, individuals aro constantly returning
from America to these islands. It was not for us to judge
beforehand whether any number of Germans would be
willing to come. Orders were given to establish recruit-
ing depots within our own provinces, with instructions
that if any persons presented themselves and were willing
to engage, they should be enlisted and enrolled. Very
strick injunctions were given that nothing should be
done by any of the persons employed for this purpose
that would at all conflict with the laws and municipal
regulations of the United States, and the most specific or-
ders were given to prevent any infraction of those laws.
A certain number ot persons came forward, amongst them
being several hundred Germans ; they were sent t) Ha-
lifax to be enrolled, and coma of them are now in this
country. However, sir, her Majesty's Government
very soon found that it would he exceedingly difficult, in
carry ing on an operation of this sort, entirely to avoid
everything which might give the American Government
cause of complaint, and as we were most desirous nothing
should be clone which might give umbrage to the -Milted
States, orders were issued to discontinue entirely all alien
preetteding. Very soon after that ;au official representa-
tion was made by the Government of the United States,
complaining of the proceedings which had been begun; our
answer was, "Anticipating that the United States might
take umbrege at the proceedings which might have been
commenced, her Majesty's Government have, of their own
accord, already totally discontinued, and given orders to
cease, all such proceedings ;" at the same time we ex-
pressed our regret if anything should have happened (which
we did not think was the case, and if so, it was entirely
contrary to our instructions) which could be considered
to he a violation of the law—if any such thing had hap-
pened we exceedingly regretted it, and we bad, of our
own accord, stopped all the proceedings complained of.
Tire hon. gentleman, sir, has said that proceedings be-
tween governments should be regulated by the rules
which regulate the conduct of gentlemen towards each
other. I will ask him, whether between one gentleman
and another anything could be more satisfactory ? What
could be more satisfactory than that one should say to
the other, " As soon as ever I saw that what my servant
was doing might give you cause of complaint, I stopped
his proceedings; and if anything has occurred of which
you complain lam very sorry for it ?" I must say, sir,
that when this communication was made to the Ameri-
can Minister here, he expressed himself satisfied in the
matter, and said he felt confident his Government would
be equally satisfied. For some time wo heard nothing
more ; but at length the question was renewed, com-
plaints again made, and a fresh correspondence opened.
Three days before Parliament met I thought I should be
able to lay the whole correspondence on the table; there
was nothing we could wish to conceal, on the contrary,
we were most anxious to make it public ; but the very
day before Parliament met the American Minister pre-
sented to may noble friend, Lord Clarendon, a further
despatch, exceedingly voluminous, going into a long re-
cital of the circumstances alleged to have taken place.
My noble friend felt it was impossible to auswer that de-
spatch as became the respect which he ought to show to
the American Goverment, and with due regard to the clae.
raster of the British Government, without referring to
our Minister at Washington for a report on the great
variety of minute details as to which the information in
possession of the Foreign-office did not enable him togive
a properanswer. The matter is now in this position. It the
correspondence be now produced, it will end with a long
paper from the United States Goverment, to which no

stry ride, their hobby as long as theyliked, provided they rode
it hi public. He looked on the bill from a commercial point
of view, Suppose the case of a trader who was known to
carry on his business in a discreditable way, and consequently
unable to obtain,credii ; if he could get a third party under
this new law to advance him money he might introduce it into
his business, and he would soon obtain credit, as parties
vspuld suppose that he was acquiring capital by the profits;
but if the profits were not great the sleeping partner might
withdraw his capital, and those who had given the trader
credit would find out their error to their loss and to the de-
triment of the public. if they wished to adopt the American
law, let them adopt it entirely. By it a sleeping partner
was obliged to give public notice of the amount he ad-
vanced, and of his withdrawal when it took pirce.
Mr. CAIRNS did not rise to oppose the bill, but only to
say a few words in justification of the course he and some
others had take* last session. When the last Partnership
Amendment Bill had been introduced he considered it too
cumbrous to work, and proposed to introduce three short and
simple clauses ; he found that the present bill of the right
hon. gentleman consisted simply and entirely of these three
clauses. (Hear, and laughter.) The only difference was the in-
sertion of the words " not being a banker." He merely stated
this because when he proposed the clauses last year ho was
accused of offering a factious opposition to the bill. With re-
gap to the Limited Liability Bill of last session, he and same
friends of his proposed a series of amendments, every one of
'which was opposed by tho Government, and rejected on a divi-
sion. Among these amendments were, that there should be no
limit to the, amount of shares; that any partnership con-
sisting of more than six should be entitled to the advan-
taps of the act. These provisions were adopted in the Govern-
ment Joint Stock Companyßill et this session.
Mr. MOFFATI believed that great good would arise from
this bill. The whole commercial fabric of the country was
based on a system of credit, and the more capital was intro-
duced, the better for the country. All the great branches of
commerce were carried on by credit. Scarcely an article was
imported but on two to six months' credit; the raw material
was supplied to the manufacturer on credit, and so down to
the retailer. As to the first clause, opinion was divided, but
he believed it was generally favourable to the clause, as it
stood. Ho believed that great national benefit would result
from this bill. As regarded the second clause, in his opinion,
a more beneficial one could not have been introduced. The
conntry was almost unanimously in its favour.
Mr. T. BARING thought the house would find itself mis-
taken if it supposed that the commercial community were
unanimous in favour of the bill. Whether for good or evil,
the bill would introduce a great change in the commercial
habits and usages of this country; and he confessed that he
did not see any necessity for change as regarded partnerships
fur private business. Various countries had been referred
to as having adopted the principle of this bill. If they
wanted to select a country as a model of commercial
usages and laws, to what country would they turn if not to
that which had the most extended commerce, which em-
ployed the greatest amount of capital, and e:hibited the
greatest amount of enterprise ? (Hear.) Where was the
proof that the present system of partnership had failed to de-
velopo the resources of this country ? He admitted that the
precedents of other countries might very fairly be cited in
such cases ; but there was net a single country in the world
which had a law like that now proposed to be enacted. This
was au experiment entirely without the test of experience,
Two clauses of the bill, short as they were, introduced a great
mass of novel principles and—of experimental change. The
present bill was very different from that of last session. The
bill of last year provided that there should be publicity, that
there should be registration, that there should be means
of ascortabaing, the amount of capital, that in case of failure
no portion of the capital should be paid to the lender till the
other creditors had been satisfied, and, moreover, that any
payment which was made to the lender within three months
before the date of failure, should be returned for the benefit
of the other creditors. Such provisions were wanting in the
present bill. As to the lender, there was nothing to prevent
him, after he had started a man iu business and enabled him
to gain credit, from withdrawing his capital without any pub-
, lieity. Was that a state of things under which commerce
was likely to prosper? Why such a law would give free-
dom, not to trade, but to fraud. (Hear, hear.) It might
obviate a variety of legal difficulties, but it would cause great
insecurity in commerce, and would affect the commercial
reputation of the kingdom. (Hear, hear.) What gave con-
fidence at present was the knowledge that the man who was
engaged risked everything in it—his capital, his resources,
and his reputation • but under this bill a man's risk would
be limited, and when he was called upon to pay a debt he
could reply " I won't do so, for I only engaged for so much."
The bill treated trade as a game, in which a man staked a
certain amount, and no more. As regarded the profitable
employment of capital, he did not think any one could point
to any quarter of the country, or the world, in which there
was a fair chance of making profit to which capital did not
flow. Such a *measure as this might do very well for a
country like the United, States, where there was enterprise
without capital, or for a country like France, where there
was capital without enterprise ; but this country had as
much capital as was required for trado, and more enterprise
than was at all times desirable, its enterprise sometimes re-
quiring rather to be checked than encouraged, He objected
to•this bill, because it had no experience or authority in its
favour. If the house was determined to establish private
partnerships with limited liability—he said nothing about
companies—this was not a safe mode of doing it ; on the con-
trary, it was a mode which would admit of every kind of
fraud being practised; it was ono which, if it had any effect
at all, would make the nun who managed the business a man
who did not care about losing the capital. (Hear.)
Sir W. CLAY believed that the reason why the bill was
not opposed on the second reading was, that it was known
by those who disapproved of it that the feeling of the coun-
try was in favour of it. T.e argument of the hon. member
for Huntingdon (Mr. T. Baring), that the principle of this
bill could not be a good ono because England, the greatest
commercial country in the world, had not adopted it, would
have been an equally good argument formerly in favour of re-
taining the corn ifrws, or continuing the monopoly of the East
India compalpt These were hitherto clung to with tenacity,

POLICE BILL.
Sir G. (.TREY said, seeing that the Navy Estimates
were to be taken on Monday next, he thought it would
be impossible for hint to move the second reading of
this bill that day. He should therefor. postpone the
bill till the following Wednesday.
POOR LAMS (SCOTLAND).
Mr. E. ELLICE aik-ed whether it was tho intention
of Government to introduce during the present session
any measure for the better superintendence of the ad-
ministration of the Poor Law in-tbe Highland oounties?
Sir G. GREY said the matter was under the consi-
deration of the Lord Advocate.

THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.
Mr. H EADLAM moved for leave to bring in a bill for the
better regulation of the medical profession. The bill he said
was brought in towards the latter part of the last session upon
an understanding between members of the profession and the
Hornesoffice that it should not be prosecuted further that session
but that i t shouldbe circulated amongst the medical societies and
accordingly it was sent to the Royal Colleges of Physicians and
Surgeons, in London, Edinburgh, Dublin, and Glasgow, and
to all the medical societies and universities throughout the
kingdom. It was also sent to private individuals interested
in the question. By the courtesy of the Home-office he had seen
the answers which had been returned, and he found so much
unanimity is the profession ox the question of reform, that he
thought in bringing forward this measure he was in a better
position than any other person who had ever introduced the
subject. In the first place ho would state to the house one
thing that his bill did not do. He did sot seek to interfere
with the rights of the British subject, which he somewhat
freely exercised, of obtaining medical advice and assistance
from any person whatever, although that person had not gone
through any training or professional education. That privi-
lege was exercised to a very great extent, for they could not
talk*. up any country newspaper without seeing what large
same of money must be expended in that way. It would be
perfectly idle to attempt to restrain practisers of that descrip-
tion. But one part of his bill was to provide a registration
of legally-qualified practitioners, for he thought it was due to
the medical profession that any person who was a legally-
qualified practitioner should have the power of letting the
fact be known to the world. Ho would leave the public at
liberty to go where they pleased for advice, but at the same
time he would give them au 'opportunity of ascertaining who
were prOperly qualified. This was due to the members of the
medical profession themselves. For gentlemen who had
studied hard and passed a severe examination, ought to have
the benefit of the titles and degrees which they had earned at
great expense. '(Hear.) There were at present about 22
different bodies who exercised various powers as to licensing
members of the medical profession. In England there were
the universities of Oxford, Cambridge, London, and Durham,
although there were doubts about the validity of their
degrees as entitling a man to practise. Then there were in
London the College of Physicians, which had the exclusive
power of conferring licences for London and within seven
miles of it. Then there wees the College of Surgeons, which
had the power of licensing, generally throughout Eng-
land. In Scotland there were various bodies who licensed for
small districts, and there was not at the present moment a
body—be it university or college—which had the power of
licensing to practise medicine generally. These conflicting
jurisdictions gave rise to much confusion and to many diffi-
culties. An Englishman would not be able to practise in
Scotland, nor a graduate of Edinburgh in London, however
able he might bs. This bill would provide for equality of
education—that was that a man who held the title of a phy
sician should be able to practise in England, Ireland, and
Scotland, for all would have to go through the same curricu-
lum of study, and it would be certain that he had received
this proper education from whatever quarter he might come.
The same principle would apply to surgeons. Ho would also
provide for reciprocity of practice, by which he meant that a
member of the College of Physicians in London might, if he
went to Glasgow, enrol his name as a member there, and be
at once entitled to practise. And so vice versa. He would
also provide for general registration, the principles of which
ho had already explained. (The hon. and learned gentleman
proceeded to read extracts from the answers that had been
returned to the Home-office with a view to show the general
concurrence of the medical profession in his plans.) It was
only owing to, dissensions among the great medical bodies
that they had not long ago obtained such a charter as they
were entitled to: possess. In the bill now introduced there
would be a clause for striking off the names of any practi-
tioner who might be guilty of improper practices. The royal
colleges of Edinburgh and Dublin had given their assent to
the bill, as in a great measure had the College of Surgeons in
England. It was proper to state that the assent of the lat•
ter body was somewhat, qualified, but they approved of the
most important feature in the bill, which was the establish-
ilsnit of the register. They thought, however, that sufficient
reason had not been shown for introducing penalties, a step
which tended to lower the character of the profession. The re-
gister was, after all, the most important part of the bill, be-
cause it would be impossible to make a satisfactory register with-
out enacting many ether things contained in the bill, and which
went to show what constituted a properly qualified practi-
tioner. He (Mr. Headlam) was nevertheless fully prepared to
consider any modifications which the English College of Sur-
geons might suggest in detail. He thought he had shown
that the bill was received by the medical bodies generally in
a favourable manner, though be would not disguise the fact
that there were differences of opinion as to details. Some of
these would be met by the bill, while others, arising out. of a
conflict of opinions, would have to be settled in committee by
the friends of the various bodies interested. At present the
proposition was to have a medical council, to bo composed of
ono physician and one surgeon from each of the colleges of
England, Edinburgh, Glasgow, and Ireland ; one from the
University of London, one from the Universities of Edinburgh,
Glasgow, and St. Andrew's collectively ; one from the Uni-
versity of Ireland, and these eight persons to be called repro.
'tentative members, who would be elected by 'the registered
medical practitioners. There would consequently be repre-
sentatives of all the learned societies in the kingdom, and in
addition eight members- for all the medical practitioners ; a
machinery that would appear not difficult to work. Having
established the council in that form, the next thing would be
the examination. Every person now licensed to practise
' would be registered without further examination, on sending
his name; and paying is small fee, with the additional advan-
tage of being able to practise anywhere, whereas they were
now restricted to certain places. With regard to those wish-
ing to be registered afterwards, an examination would have to
be passed, which would be uniform throughout the kingdom.
The candidate must be 26 years of age, and a graduate of
some British or foreign university for a physician, and 22
years'of age for a surgeon. Those were the chief points in
the bill, and it had been framed with a sincere desire to show
every respect to the great colleges of medicine and surgery
established in this kingdom, and to promote the general iuto-
rests of the public. In couclusiou,.the hon. gentleman read
au extract from a speech recently delivered by Sir John Kayo
Shuttleworth, and asked for leave to introduce the bill.
Mr. BRADY regretted to hear it stated that legislation
upon this subject had been hitherto prevented solely by
differences amongst the medical bodies themselves. To this
he gave a decided contradiction, for they were most fully
alive to the necessity for a great and compreheneive measure.
Previous attempts had failed because they bad not.been en-
tered upon with a full determination to succeed, and because
the persons making the attempts had submitted to the in-
fluence of those interested iu keeping things as they were.
Even the right hon, gentleman the member for Carlisle on
one occasion made this admission—" I may be excused for
saying that if I could not have anticipated the extensive date
culties of this subject I should not probably have presumed
to interfere with them;" in fact, ho regar,'ed it as au Augoan
stable, that he had no hope of cleansing. It was a great error
to suppose that the medical profession were alone interested
in this bill, or that, like Sir Lucius O'Trigger, they found it
a very pretty quarrel, and wished to keep it so. It was a
general measure, calculated to raise the standard of the pro-
fession—to make them, as it were, a part of the police of the
country, and one that should be supported by the Govern-
ment. It was much to be regretted that a member of the
Government had not brought in this bill, from the greater
facilities it would then have received in its progress through
the house. •
Lord PALMERSTON—I have to thank my hon. and
learned friend for introducing this bill, and lam sure the
house has listened with great satisfaction to the able and in-
teresting statement he has made in proposing this measure.
I give him great credit for that, and I shall give him more
credit still if he succeed in passing it, and thus, as the gen-
tleman opposite (Mr. Brady) observed, settle the question for
ever. My hon. and learned friend has not exaggerated either
the importance of the measure itself, or the difficulties which I
he has had to contend with, and I speak with some expe-
rience of this subject, because, when I had the honour to be
at the Home-office, I endeavoured to do that which my bons
and learned friendhas now undertaken. I confess to finding ;
difficulties that I felt I could not surmount, but which I hope
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Mr. A. PiLLATT said there were many points in the
bill which he much approved- of, There was one point to
which he would call the attention of the home. He hoped
that the Government would give some protection against cer-
tain companies—as gas and water companies—giving a worse
supply or quality, and from raising the price of these things
so necessary to life.

Mr. MITCHELL said that every merchant in business wei
knew that persons carrying on legitimate trade did not bor.
row money at high rates of interest. He was not at all dis.
posed to oppose the bill.

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patched on the following day. with the exceptlen of the ;$Ol
touthampton), and the Malta. both of which will be deePIIP
preceding day.

Mr. Sergeant SHEE did not intend opposing the measure. ,
He thought they were very much indebted to the hon. mem-
ber for bringing the matter forward at so early a period in
the session. He thought the law of partnership required a
chauge, and was not at present satisfactory. The object of
the bill was that any persons advancing money to a partner-
ship with a stipulation that they should receive an uncertain
share of the profits, may not be liable for the whole debts of
the firm to the amount of their fortunes. The evirintended
to be remedied was that persons who had a small amount of
property had been prevented from fear of the tisk involved
from employing their capital. He thenght the bill as it then
stood would inlet greater evils than those they were trying
to cure. He wished to call the attention of the house to cer-
tain portions of it. In the first place, what was the meaning
of the words in the first clause---" The person cairyieg on
such trade or undertaking 7" It is intended to mean persons
carrying on the business, not as agents, but as principals.
Under these, words might not a person lending money, by
some agreement with the person carrying on the business, be
entitled to almost all the profits A person carrying
on business under the name of Jones and Co. agrees
with an old lady for the loan of 20,0001., on condition that she
should have 19-20ths of the profits, and himself only 1-20th.
He would be the personmarrying on the business, though he
would not b.: entitled to any large amount of the profits. If
the bill was passed iu its present state they would incur great
and serious inconveniences. But these may be removed by
some regulation§ as to publicity. He thought that lawyers
knew more about these matters than commercial men them-
selves. The hon. gentleman who brought in this bill had
abundant information on these matters. tie hoped that in
committee they would inquire into the points he had men-
tioned.

Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE thought the honourable gentle-
man who had, introduced tho bill had better let it remain in
its present state.

Mr. LAING should support the bill, as he thought one
party should be permitted to make a contract with another
if he made it public. He thought it would-be a great ad3an-
•ta2-,e to the comintrycial community if the hon. gentleman, the
originator of this bill, would look over the whole of the com-
mercial law. The,present punishments of commercial frauds
were not sufficiently severe, and he was sum the honourable
gentleman was well fitted for the task.

Mr. CHAMBERS said he was of opinion that the abolition
of the usury laws led to great inconvenience. The hon.
member for Kilkenny said he was not aware of the enormous
rates of interest on advances to traders. Other persons were
aware of them. Secret loans were frinuent, and this had a
bad effect. The persons lending large sums of money secretly
watched the business, and if a time of difficulty came with-
drew his money. .Now this man incurred no risk, for he can
make himself aware of every danger. He quite concurred in
the principle of the bill and hoped that all merchants and
lawyers would lend it all their assistance to render it a useful
measure.
Mr. LOWE said it was not his intention to trouble the
house with auy remarks on the general principle of the bill,
but he felt bound to say that the general feeling of the home
was that the bill required a number of safeguards. Many
members had pointed out with great truth, and the feeling
appeared to be, that the clano-es in the law he proposed
would give rise to frauds, and must therefore be provided
with safeguards for its prevention. He was satisfied that
the laws and the restrictions that had been made against put-
ting up men of straw, withdrawing capital, winding up, and
such like things, had been ineffectual, for they were still
practised on a very large scale. After the usury laws were
passed, there were very few difficulties in the way of such
transactions ; indeed persons who stood high in public esti-
mation, and who were possessed of great wealth, indulged in
such practices. He did not pretend -that this or any other
law would have the effect of preventing frauds.
All the
Legislature could do to check fraud would be to check free-
dons of action, and that was not the intention of the bill he
had introduced. (Hear, hear.) He wished hon. members to
consider well before this bill went into committee, whether
they could devise any safeguard, such as had been suggested;
but at the same time he was bound to express his opinion that
they would prove nugatory, and only have the effect of aggra-
vating the evi s which at present existed. Ile should be de-
lighted to hear of-any safeguard the hon. and learned gentle-
man opposite (Sergeant Shee) might be able to propose; but
he did not think that it would be possible for his ingenuity
to devise any plan which would- checkinghave the effect of
fraud. If he could suggest any such plan he would be the
first legislator of the human race who bad ever done so. (A
itaugh.) It was said that there should be a system of regis-
tration, but what would be the result of that ? What were
ahoy to register ? Tice name of the partner ? If they made
pr ()vision of that sort they would not follow the example of
France, where there was no registration, for this reason, that
the name of the person registered might be improperly used,

ARCTIC EXPEDITION'S.
Admiral WALCOTT asked whether and when it was
the intention of the Government' to grant
those engaged in the several Arctic expeditions,conform.
medal t o
Ably with the recommendation to that effect contained
in the report of the select committee on the Arctic E,,-.
peditions in the last session?
Sir C. WOOD raid the Queen having signified her in-
tention to confer a medal upon those persons engaged in
the arctic expeditions, it would be issued without delay.
When the delivery of the Crimean medal had been com-
pleted, then the Arctic expedition medal would be issued.
CRIMEAN REPORT.
Lord W. GRAHAM asked whether the officers ani-
madverted on in the Crimean report had sent in any
further explanations on the otbject to the Government
or the authorities at the Horse Guards ; and, if not,
whether Government intended to call for any
Mr. F. PEEL said he might call upon the hon. mem-
ber to state who the officers were, but he pre-
sumed that the Quartermaster-General at the Horse
Guards was the principal one referred to. Her Majesty's
Government had not thought it necessary to call upon
him to make any report. When that officer saw the re•
port he had forwarded his explanation. Lord Lucan had
also made a statement.
Mr. iBAILLIE asked the First Lord of the Admi-
ralty a question in reference to the conduct of Ad-
miral Stirling and Captain Elliott in the China Seas,?
The hon. member then read the two statements that had
been published with reference to this—one the English,
and the other the Rtv,sian statement. He said it ap-
peared from Captain Elliott's statement that he really