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AIPERIAL PARLIAMEIS'L

(THIS DAY.)

ROUSE OF LORDS.
Their Lordships sat at Twelve o'clock, pro forma.
The following Bills were read a third tinae and
passed:—
Collection of Fines, &c. (Ireland).
Constabulary Force (Ireland).
Summary Jurisdiction (Ireland).
Petty Sessions (Ireland).
Geaeral Board of Health (No. 2).
Emigration Advances (Distressed Districts of Scotland).
.„IsTevi Zsaland Settlements.
.11Etropolitan Interment.
Canterbury Association.
Cealwhippers (Port of London).
The Crown Estates Paving Bill and the General
Board of Health (No. 3) ME passed through Committee,
and were repotted to the House.
PETITIONS.
The Earl of HARDWICKE presented a petition
from the shipowners of Scarborough, complaining of the
operation of the repeal of the navigation-laws; also,
from the seamen of the same port, against the Mercantile
Marine Act.
The Earl of HARROWBY presented a petition from
the Chamber of C,ommerce arid others of Edinburgh,
praying for a modification of mercantile law.
Their Lord.hips then adjourned during pleasure.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
p,The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly after Twelve
clod,.

EW EMBE.
The Earl of ARUN N
DEL andM SURREY R
took the oaths and
nia seat tor Limerick in the room of Mr. John O'Con-
it, who had accepted the stewardship of the Chittorn
nndreds. The Noble Lord was introduced by Mr.
alQiasell and Mr. Goold.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
I The Lords' amendments to the St. Andrew's and Que-
uee Railway Bill were considered and agreed to.
Brentwood Free Grammar School Estate Bill and
Webster's Divorce Bill were read a third time and

PETITIONS.
ton Mr. WILCOX presented a uetition from Southamp-
favour of the retention of the Crystal Palace.
ilic—r* G. F. YOUNG presented a petition from the
m Pwrights of London, complaining of the want of em-
rtioriae:s, and praying for an alteration in the naviga-
Mr LAM?.
' presented a petition against the May-
tooth grant.
1801°ne1 SIBTIIORP presented two petitions from
in Lincolnshire against the Capttular Estates

I,l.!lr.:y,AliLEY presented a petition from an elector of
praeingfor mentar y reform; also a
ill
betttion from ihe-boronghParlia in favour of the Pharmacy
mLorel
DUDLEY STUART presented a petition from
J'a. Jones on the subject of prison discipline.
NO VICES OF NIO HON.
tit, Colonel REID gave notice that early next session he
tlid move an address to the Crown on the subject of
Military Knights of Windsor.
~,,9413te SCOBELL gave notice that tomorrow he would
,",_`N a question to the First Lord of the Admiralty on a
"ees personal to himself. ough he was alive and
bell, in the " Navy Directory"Alth he was reported as dead.
DROPPED NOTICES.
The, dropped notices of motion were re-appointed, most
of them for next session.
PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL.
"a the motion for re-appointing this Bill until after
the other orders,
Sir B. till HALL said he should object to its being taken
after the notices of motion for to-da had been dis-
Posed of. y
eeThe SPEAKER said the order could be taken before
of the other business.
t• B. HALL said in that case he must submit a mo-
ton to the House on the subject.
not he SPEAKER ruled that the Hon. Baronet could
posed of.
till the other orders and notices had been dis-
,*esed of.
Sir
B• HALL said he intended to make his motion as
44:l,',!,aleadent to the proposal that the Bill be postponed
hoafter the other orders of the day. There was
bed an instance where a Bill of this importance, which
ezeitee°lne down so late from the Lords, and which had
tte, BO
much opposition, had been pressed forward. in
kBB Plantier. It was utterly impossible that it could
sae the a law in the course of the present session, un-
eree,'” standing orders were suspended, and he hoped itd
to "ttasbe withdrawn at once. At all events, he objecte
the ;°.: hurried mode of legislation, and he called upon
trees use to support him in resisting the further pro-
," of the Bill.
to -tsstord Bee
°Bee RUSSELL consented to allow the Bill
poaallattadrover until all the other business had been dis.
The
Ittis motion was then agreed to.
4/1,11 PARLIAMENTARY AND LAW REFORM.
Wheti, R°, CHE wished to ask Lord John Russell,
cleaaTri looking to the fact that under the late fran-
dsee-e'w in Ireland voters in boroughs have been se-
tteehe ," Ilearty to eight thousand, and also to the unequal
°L the representation in that country, he will
to Pre
Ir
Pared to extend his new Reform Bill
llPteeerizte-. Whether he will be prepared. the
°met:, a Commission to inquire into
coos law
of Ireland with a view to its amendment and
the tableultten. Whether he bas any objection to lsy on
the eb. of the House a copy of any letter written by
Lerd
Justice of the Queen's Bench in Ir. land to the
fere Chancellor or Attorney-General for Ireland in re-
-1411" to the system of legislation for that country, and
Lo nsatisfactory state of the law.
Itteetrd J. RUSSELL, in reply to the first question, re:
tee ped the Ho. Member to wait for en answelrauunatl
reinennt measure was brought in.—(A g.
Oat n regard to the second question, Government were
teearerm,P4recl to appoint such a Commission; while, with
'" the third question, he had no knowledge of
such letter having been received.
on MESSAGES TO TUE LORDS.
lowil" the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the fol-
jCommittee was appointed:— .
bets 'Let Committee to settle the order in which Mem-
her rt","'dl accompany Mr. Speaker on all occasions when
Ihd"Jesty shall command the House to attend her
Sis",?,4tY to the House of Peers•—Lord John Russell,
gou\-1-113tarles Wood, Sir James Graham, Mr. Henley, Mr.
It e barn( Sir John Yarde Buller, Sir De Lacy Evens,
la .-)ernal, Sir John Duckworth, Sir Joshua Walms-
tiliCi. Evelyn Denison, Mr. Brotherton, Lord Marcus
tpistt,nd Mr. Greene • three to be the quorum.
''OPAL AND CAPI fULAR ESTATES MA-
NAGEMEN (Nu. 2) BILL.
e,Clitte T' the motion for the third reading of this Bill,
sloe:. HENLEY said the more he examined the provi-
e,t lof the Bill the more he was convinced that it
would
ti :ork well either for the Church or the lessees; one
Ripee necessary consequences of the Bill would be to
ho,l Power to ecclesiastical corporations to force sur-
4era from their poorer lessees, by refusing them re-
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WlB, and ultimately he was afraid the operation of the
titt ould stop all renewals. No renewal could take
late without a surrender, and he was afraid when once a
ee:,Qo surrendered in the hope of obtaining a re-
fere_4l, the provisions of this Bill would be put in
thny to prevent the renewal. He should, therefore, move
‘r.,' the Bill be read a third time this day six months.
tt"i• SIB lIORL' seconded the amendment. Whett-
er
)„,. Measures of this importance were press( d forward
;suspectedandaththisatcathseerbee was
IQ, undue haste,- be always
tiro underhand underhand work going
screed with all that had fallen from the Hon.
beeokther for Oxfordshire, who had moved the amend-
the lessees as a body were
RN, u• A. SMITH said,
tht,t•Y interested in this Bill, and it was an injustice to
they to hurry it through the House without first giving
hoped an opportunity of considering its details. He
atten,however, this Bill was only a prelude to legis-
Pel;tl for making the settlement of Church leases cons-
ls(ja7) and in that hope only he should allow the Bill
kr
Whio; ALCOCK. was entirely satisfied with the clausra
related to the lessees.
It leftyre J. WILLOUGHBY objected to the Bill because
this e right of renewal in doubt. The amb;guity cif
tasseu;• in that respect ought to be cleared up before the
, kr e was passed into a law.
40Idi AGLIONBY thought the Government were
°R the scales of justice between the lessee and the.
).t° b01.:44ed doing their best to secure justice and equity
Pen ho Sides. Tie Bill, as it now stood, was founded
p4't thr-e,st and fair intentions, but at the same time he
vclrtipoCio"r't onld ultimately be necessary to pass a
wilub_4,
to the
PALMER
upon
said the claims of the lessee were
t the an equitable or a legal right; but,
to estem of
retftreanagement of the Church property,
ip tv, were
1. the crow"ne !l.'s had sprung up that was common.
t orey e •
Fustiauet lands of Ireland. The lessees, in
lea„s ; b entitled to term of tenure specified
ierlell he had eg to the mismanagement to
Ist, 'teed to
malk erred,e the lessees had not only been
la iliament e a mto tenant-right, but to come to
k„. to seek t,
nEADLAuu nave the claim confirmed.
reaoad dote b protested against the principles
lof
y the Honourable who last address and Learned Gent e-
ktt:l to renewals eased them. The lessees had aa moralever
sst,44)ted to which neither law nor quilyh d
that it
to
rcao__.se override, and he was glad t d
the the 1,441 et by this Bill. It was oppose
ei raisea and Gxperience of the past to say that
aht
hp, beo, nt of a property could not confer a
oelttits seeCrai,ll.o the cases of copyholds and ground
the pio,4 a pr„ had arisen out of the mismanagement
r which the Li gislature had ratified
e eiver again. It was neither for the
seeeralea, the Church eor the public that
ea; Bake oficaroa of the lessees should be denied fur
tii()rations. ALE:teasing the property of ecclesiastical
r,
4,1 of .ARROW generally approved of the provi-
botene
irend thought that it would
04stthlit, liate the Church and the public, by
sefr'sonn,,, euchsiastical corporations to buy up
diwrd, e leases, and devutieg the process
"tiers vrailloting the Spiritual welture of destitute
Sirbotild Tiers,
OLNIELEY was convinced that this Bill
fitam
sal' iced upon out of doors with great distrust
aggled through the House w.thin two deye
i7l'o:lttahietietcl erteftnation of the session. Many lessees had
e,tl beeo "'at DetitiOnitig against it because they
aseured that it would not be pressed this
atilenimmt h
Ott and the
Bin read ae Was t
th ir en negmeatived without a divi-
eld ti.
Neoe the toont motion that the Bill do
ta_Ntasa idde.„ wepass, some verbal
Were made in several clauses, and two
to the Bill, the first providing that the in-
-1941"4 by losses should be aubjeset to the