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the E..rl of hiug t o, cornplattring th :t his e,t,tes to
I elar.d. r •presilitiEg Eva ae.gtegate vaiue (.1. 280 0001.,
bad been toreed into the Erieuinburyd E•iute: Court tie
sale, 011 the poti.i,ni of one single er,di not
of only 20u/ ; that Davoig bt,t.n Drought ,:n for sal', the
sate was pubie;:i sjourited, whert-upon the Isl:,hte
Es:t's agent and o her peisou, who had eututi to itt:ei,d
the sale, withdre7r; but that, attar they had so with-
drawn, and notwithstanding the public ailjuuminent of
the sale, Mr. Commissioner Longtield, sitting alone, had
proceeded to sell several lots at sums infiuhely below
their fair value, to the great detriment, of the petitioner
and in contravention of the law.
The motion was then, as we understood, agreed to.
On the motion of the Earl of CARLISLE, the Conso-
lidated Fund Appropriation B:11 was read a third time
and passed.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 7.

ATTENDANCE OF MEMBERS IN TIIE HOUSE

OF PEERS.

On the motion of Mr. LABOUCUERE, the report of
the Committ,e on this subject, which was presented yes-
terday was read by the clerk at the table.
On the motion that the report be agreed t
Mr. V. SMITH objected to the time specified in the
report, and within which Members were to announce
their intention to attend the Speaker on the
occasion of the prorogation to-morrow. The report
required that Members should give in their names to
night, but it would answer all the ends that the report
sought to attai❑ if Members delivered in their names to-
morrow. He should decidedly object to that
part of the report which proposed to give
Cabinet Ministers precedence over all other
Members ou the occasion of the opening or
closing Parliament, and he should divide the House on
that part of it, because the proposal was wholly in oppo-
titian to the principles of the constitution, which gave
Members the right of attending the Speaker on an equal
fosting,.as the representatives of the people.
Sir 1). NORREYS concurred with the Right Hon.
Gentleman i❑ the objection he had take❑ t,) the second
resolution contained in the report. He should, therefore,
move that the first clause of the report be omitted.
Sir R. H. INGLIS thought it any precedence were to
be given it should be to the members of the Privy
Council, which would include not only the present
Cabinet, but all former Ministers and the most distin-
guished persons i❑ that House.
Mr. C. ANSTEY thought the fault rested with the
other House, i❑ not providing sufficient accommodation
for this House when it was called to the presence of her
Majesty. Ho also objected to recognise by a resolu-
tion of the House the existence of the Cabinet Council,
a distinction which was unknown to the forms of the
House, and constitution of the country.
I Mr. GREENE defended the report.

Sir B. HALL thought that the beat mode of proceed-
ing would be to place the names of all Hon. Members
indiscriminately in a glass, and for each [lon. Member
to follow Mr. Speaker in the order in which his name be
drawn. _ _

Mr. HOBHOUSE thought that if they were to hare
any precedence at all, they ought to go by the tables of
precedence which were used in all other tmetings of gen-
tlemen. He thought, too, that the Hcuse of Lords was
deficient in courtesy towards this House in not providing
sufficient accommodreion for it.

Mr. MACGREGOR objected to giving precedence to
any persons. He thought all Members were equal among
themselves.

After a few words from Sir DE LACY ETANS and
Mr. PAOKE,

Sir B. HALL said, that to meet the objection of Sir
D. Norreys, he would amend his proposition, so that it
shoul I read thus:—" That every Member desirous of
attending Mr. Speaker do, on entering thu House, put
his name in a glass, and that in half an hour after the
meeting of the House the names shall be drawn by the
clerk at the table, and that in such order as they are
drawn Members shsll proceed to the House of Lords."
The SPEAKER was about to put the question, when
the Sergeant-at-Anne announced the arrival of the
Black Rol, an announcement which was received with
a cheer and loud laughter.
The Deputy Usher of the Black Rod then appeared
at the table, and summoned the House to the bar of the
House of Lords to hear the royal assent given by Com-
mission to a number of Bills. The Speaker proceeded
to the House of Lords accordingly, followed immediately
by Mr. T. Hobhouse and Mr. Macgregor, amidst the
cheers and laughter of the House.
The SPEAKER, on his return, announced to the
House that he had heard the royal assent given by
Commission to several Bills, for which see Lords' report.
Sir B. HALL then rose and made his amendment, in
the form he proposed to have adopted. It was to the
effect that ever Member desirous of attending Mr.
Speaker should put his name in a glass, that half an
hour after the meeting of the House the Members'
names should be drawn from the glass, and that in such
order as they were drawn they should proceed to the
House of Lords.
Lord J. RUSSELL Bair], that, so far as he was con-
cerned, he had no particular desire on the subject. He
had moved the appointment of the Committee on the
question, because he had understood that many Mem-
bers wished there should be more order observed
than Pitherto—(Hear, hear)—had been the case. He
was responsible for having moved the Committee, and
when to a Committee had met ho had certainly proposed
that the re should be certain precedence observed,
but not tb at which was contained in the resolution.
The precetience which he had proposed was, that
four Membe es, such as the mover and seconder of
the Address, at the commencement of the session,
or others selected on some such account, should
attend the Speaker before the other Members. How-
ever, that was unanimously negatived by the Corn•
mittee, and the proposal now before the House of
giving precedence to the Cabinet Ministers was adopted
instead. It was to him a matter of perfect indifference.
If there were any Members who had more curiosity to
gratify on the occasion they might go. All he wished
for was that the House should agree, if possible, with-
out a division—(Hrsar)—to some arrangement. He did
not think it was at .all desirable that they should divide,
and if the House sass' no objection, he thought it better
they should adopt the amendment of the Honourable
Gentleman (Sir B. Hall). Of course he could not be
certain that the resolution would work well, but if there
should be any inconvenience in that mode of proceeding
the House could alter it on a future occasion.
The amendment was then agreed to.

The next three resolutions;kiving precedence to the
Cabinet Ministers after the Speaker, and arranging the
order of the Members, were then struck out.
The next resolution was as follows:—" That after the
House has been summoned to attend her Majesty, no
Member of this House do remain in, or cross, or pass
through any of the lobbies or passages leading from the
door of this House to the door of the House of Lords,
and the Sergeant-at-Arms attending this House do keep
the said passages clear of Members."
Mr. ANSTEY objected to the resolution being re-
tained, and considered that it should bo struck out with
the others. He would insist on dividing the House if
that resolution were retained. With respect to the dif-
ficulties in the way of the proposed arrangement, there
was no place reserved for them below the bar of the
House; the place there was usually tilled on those occa-
sions with law clerks, parliamentary agents, and persons
who had been unsuccessful candidates for a seat in that
House. He wanted to know whether there was any ar-
rangement made by which sufficient space would be se-
cured to the Members of that House?

Lord J. RUSSELL said that while they were consi-
dering this matter a communication bad been made to
the Sergeant-at-Arms of the House of Lords, and they
had received a positive assurance that all the space be-
low the bar intended for the House of Commons would
be kept clear for them tceinorrow, and that there was
space for 300 persons in that place—(Oh, oh)—an esti-
mation which he thought was exaggerated. There were,
however, the other day in that space 14i: peers who di-
vided below the bar. Taking, then, but the half of the
300 stated, there would be, at all events, space for 150
Members of the House of Commons below the bar of
the House of Lords. Hitherto he admitted it was un-
satisfactory to find so great a part of the space occupied
by others, but he would not approve of the present ar-
rangement unless there was an undertaking that persons
who had no right to be there should be excluded. Tho
Hon. Gentleman objected to the resolution. He (Lord
J. Russell) had always thought the great inconvenience
arose from the persons following the Speaker being
pushed back by others who crossed into the rank, and
if that practice were allowed to continue it would be un-
fair to those gentlemen who were intercepted.
After a few words from Mr. D. Nortaxits and Colonel
SISTITORP,
Viscount PALMERSTON said there was nothing new
in the proposed arrangement, which was exactly the
same as that resolved on upon the occasion of her Ma-
jesty's coronation. The Committee were establishing no
new precedent by it.
Mr. B. COCIIRANE asked how long an Hon. Mem-
ber who might be taken into custody would be detained?
He might, perhaps, be kept in custody until the next
session.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that Hon. Gentlemen would
of course be expected to obey the orders of the House.
If an Hon. Gentleman passed in, and was taken into cus-
tody by the Sergeant-a'-Arms, he presumed that, on ex-
plaining, he would be at once released.
After a few words from Mr. HUME and Mr. P. WIL-
LIAMS, strangers were ordered to withdraw, but ultis
mainly no division took place, and the resolution was
withdrawn.
SARDINIA AND NAPLES.
Sir DE LACY EVANS rose to put two questions to
the Noble Lord at the head of the Foreign-office, and he
hoped for the sake of humanity that the Noble Lord
would be able to answer them satisfactorily. It was
well known, upon the most unexceptionable authority,
that in consequence of the refuge which Piedmont had
given to the thousands of Italian refugees driven out
from other parts of the peninsula for political causes, the
Austrian Government had seen fit to interfere, and that
the constitution of Piedmont was threatened with
danger. The object of his question, therefore, was to
express a hope that the Governments of England and
France united would give all possible countenance and
support to the Sardieian Government in its efforts to
uphold that constitution.—(flear.) His next question
was on a still more painful subject. It was known to the
House and to the country, on the authority of the Right
Hon. Member fur the University of Oxford, that the
present conduct of the Government of Naples towards
those prisoners accused of political offsnces whom it held
in is power, was at once an outrage against religion,
an outrage against humanity, an outrage against de.
cency, and an outrage against civilisation.—(Hear.)
Mr. B. COCHRLIE—Order, order.
Sir DE LACY EVANS—That which he had stated

n107,1eL4,8 fa,t. It was in the sec. liection of lion.
.41,-citfrr6 +hat t 4 constitul.n bc.c.n ,nt,neon,ly
gratit.4l to N.T!es by Lne Kicg of that country in IS-18;
bur, th:st convi Litton had she been violet ci in th, inuat
bha,t,fal wa,r.er on every poor, and the met 3uniusury
m ,oe 0: dealing with the L-g;eht are achipt,o by tti.
litn::—naluel), that or iniprisonb,g the majority 0' the
eaenta;tv,:a ut the ptople uud,r that c
tw.,n7anPou,,ly grant,d. Thee ittprig,ritrrnts, which
comprehended an immense numb r ..; the m•bst re,pec,,
able classcs, included also a late Prime Minister of
Naples.
Mr. B. COCHRANE rose to order. He wished to
know how far the rules of the House warranted the Hon.
and Gallant Member in bringing the whole question of
the foreign policy of the country as regarded other
countries under notice? _

The SPEAKER ruled that the Hon. and Gallant
Officer was in order.—(flear, hear.)
Sir DE LACY EVANS had no interest in the ques-
tion except that of humanity and justice—(Hear, hear)
—and he regretted that he should have had occasion to
move in the matte-. The Hon. and Gallant Member
then put the second question, which was as follows :
From a publication entitled to the highest consideration
it appears that there are at present above 20,000 per-
sons confined in the prisons of Naples, for alleged poli-
tical offences; that these prisoners have, with extremely
few exceptions, been thus immured in violation of the
existing laws of the country, and without the slightest
legal trial or public inquiry into their respective cases ;
that they include a late Prime Minister and a majority
of the late Neapolitan Parliament, as well as a large pro-
portion of the most respectable and intelligent classes of
suc:ety; that these prisoneta are chained two and two
together ; that these chains are never undone, day or
eight, for any purpose whatever, and that they are suf-
fering refinements of barbarity and cruelty unknown in
any other civilised country :—it is consequently asked
if the British Minister at the Court of Naples has been
instructed to employ his good offices in the cause of hu-
manity tor the diminution of these lamentable severities,
and with what result ?
Viscount PAL?.IFRSTON—With regard to the first
question, I can only say that her Majesty's Government
attach very great importance to the maintenance of the
independence of the kingdom of Sardinia—(Hear)—and
that they look with much anxiety to the working of the
constitution of that country. But, at the same time, I
am bound to say that nothing had occurred to lead her
Majesty's Government to suspect that this constitution
was in any danger, or that the independence of Sardinia
is threatened with the encroachments of any foreign
power.--(Hear.) The mariner in which that constitution
has hitherto worked for the benefit of the people and of
the Sovereign, entitle us to hope that it will continue as
it has been end as it is—a model worthy of the imitation
of all nations—(Hear)—as Sardinia herself affords an
example of good government under its influence, highly
honourable to the Sovereig❑ as well as the people of
that country, and calculated to inspire hopes of its
adoption by other nations.— (Hear, hear.) With regard
to the second question, her Majesty's Government, in
common with all intelligent men in this country, have
learned with infinite pain, from various quarters, a
confirmation of the impressions produced by the com-
munications of the Right Hon. Member for the Univer-
sity of Oxford, in respect to the unfortunate and cala-
mitous condition of the Neapolitan political prisoners.
—(Hear.) It has not been any part of the duty of the
British Government to make any representations to the
Government of Naples on the subject, seeing that it re-
lates to the internal management of the government of
that country; but at the same time I think it right to
say that Mr. Gladstone has done himself great honour by
the course he has pursued in this matter in the first in-
stance, and which he has followed since—(Hear)---for
when we see an English gentleman of sta•ion and position
tur❑ his eyes from the enjoyments which such a city as
Naples affords, and instead of going to see volcanoes or
disinterred cities, visiting the courts of justice, visiting
the prisons, descending the dungeons of these prisons,
and examining personally into the cases of the unhappy
victims of illegality and injustice there to be found—
(Cheers)—with the view of interesting public opinion in
Europe to remedy these abuses—this, I say, does honour
to any person. And concurring with the view of that Right
Hon. Gentleman that public opinion duly aroused on the
subject might have that effect, I did think it a part of
my duty to send copies of the pamphlets in qua tion to
her Majesty's Ministers at the several Courts of Europe,
with instructions to communicate their contents to the

respective Governments to whom they are accredited,
and by that means to create an influence which may be
more effective than any direct interference of ours, in
promoting the object of the Right. Hon. Gentleman the
Member tor Oxford, and the Hon. and Gallant Officer
who has put the question.—(Hear.)
Mr. B. COCHRANE rose to address the House
amidst cries of " Order."
The SPEAKER overruled the Hon. Member, and
decided that he could not speak on the subject.
CASE OF ANN HICKS.

Colonel SIBTHORP rose to bring before the House
the case of a helpless female (Ann Hicks), upon
whom not only a❑ act of cruelty had been practised,
but whose reputation had been assailed by a member of
her Majesty's Government, dressed in a little brief
authority. He held in his hand testimonials of
the highest description as to the character of this
poor woman—aspersed by the Noble Lord—who had,
along with several others, been ejected from her means of
livelihood, because of that fraud upon the industrious
tradesman, that curse of the country—the Crystal Pa-
lsce.—(Laughter.) He was bound to believe the state-
ment of that poor woman, as she was ready to testify it
on oath; and she asserted that her grandfather had been
the means of rescuing a Sovereign of the country from
immersion in the Serpentine, which was seen by Caro-
line, the wife of George IL, the Sovereign so rescued.
She asserted further that her grandfather held the spot
in the park from which she had been ejected, for 60
years, that her father had held it for 40 years, and that
she herself, on the death of her father, was permitted to
reside in the stone house near the Humane Society's
house, but in consequence of that being pulled down in
Lord Lincoln's time, she was allowed to take up a posi-
tion nearer the well, Mr. Harrison, from the office of the
Woods and Forests, providing her with stones and
tiles for the building. This was an admission
of right at all events. She admitted that she had been
told she could not live there; but she was one. morning,
at three o'clock, surprised to find her house stripped
and all she had in the world exposed to the weather.
She slept there, however, with her infant child, and no
fault was found with her, either by Lord Lincoln or
Lord Dencannon. She had no intimation that she
should be driven from that humble dwelling until July,
1851; and so this poor woman, of spotless character, who
had been most useful in supplying ladies with a humble
glass of water, was expelled from the place which she
had occupied for nearly seven years. It pleased the First
Commissioner of Woods, in the early part of July, how-
ever, to give her notice to quit that residence and find a
home elsewhere. This was in his (Colonel Sibthorp's)
opinion a cruel case, and one which no man in power
should have acted on. This was not, however, all. She
had built a house which cost her all her savings, but she
was told if she applied at the Office of Woods she would
be compensated. This house cost her 1301.; and, would
it be believed that the only compensation they gave
her was 131, wanting 6d. Why the 6d. was kept
back he did not know. Many letters passed on the
subject. In one of them Lord Seymour could
only say, in reply to Mrs. Hicks, that he could
not permit her or any of her family to have a
stall in the parks; but that he was ready to allow her
ss. a week until she obtained another residence. Mrs.
Hicks then wrote to the Queen, and received for answer
that the numerous claims on her Majesty's privy purse
prevented compliance with her request for relief.
Finally, she wrote to the Duke of Wellington, who re-
plied that he bad transmitted her memorial to the
Woods, and that they denied she had had any permis-
sion to construct any building in the park. The Duke
added, that, as ranger of the park, he could give Mrs.
Hicks no authority to hold a house in the park. All
the remuneration she had, therefore, was 131.—less 6d.
The poor woman, thus reduced to poverty, had been
compelled to sleep for several nights along with her
daughter on the pavement; but a generous public had
come forward and contributed more than the Woods and
Forests—it had contributed 751. to her necessities—of
which 351. were subscribed by gentlemen of the Royal
Exchange, who knew her character, and sympathised
with her wrongs. She was taken before a magis-
trate, who said she should not be punished if she
would sell no more cakes in the park. He (Colonel
Sibthorp) asked the House would they sanction the in-
justice perpetrated on that poor woman? She was not,
however, the only victim—there were several others who
were made to suffer for that absurd and wicked appro-
priation of the rights and property of the people—the
Crystal Palace. One man, Denis Heath, had kept a stall
17 years—another, named Lacy, who had kept a stall 20
years, and who was turned out on this occasion. An-
other poor man, of the name of Spicer, who had held a
stall from seven to nine years, was also turned out.
These parties had the sanction of former Commissioners
of the Maeda and Forests, and were never before mo-
lested. If anything could especially plead for the poor
woman, Ann Hicks, it was that no imputation rested
upon her character. He would not go further into these
cases, but he would call on the Noble Lord, without any
unkind feeling towards that Noble Lord, but from a de-
termination never to shrink from doing his duty, to ac-
cede to his motion—namely, to grant copies of all orders
or decisions in the case of Ann Hicks.
Lord D. STUART would second the motion, although
he did not agree with all that had been said. His objection
was to the mode in which Ann Hicks had been treated.
He had looked into the case previous to the opening of
Parliament. Ile had called on the Noble Lord (Lord
Seymour), and had gone through all the letters, and his
opinion was that Ann Hicks had been treated with great
hardship, if not injustice. The case he believed to be
this:—Ann Hicks, her father, and grandfather had sold
edibles in the park for a very long period without moles-
tation. Ann Hicks was removed in consequence of the
proposed Crystal Palace. She was removed summarily,
and even the small house she had erected was pulled
down without compensation. It might be true there was
no written re cord in the Woods and Forests Office for
permission to Ann Hicks to build her cottage. But it
was undeniable the cottage was built, .and had stood in
the park for a series of years. Every Commissioner
and every ranger :nest have seen that cottage for years.
Now, what would be said if a gentleman had allowed the
same thing in his park, and had he acted as the Woods
and Forests had acted, would he not be hooted out
of that house? The compensation—the miserable com-
pensation given, if not a gross act of injustice, was in.
defensible, and constituted a hardship on Ann Hicks.
The compensation was ss. a week for a year. Had she
received Bs. a week for her life, that would not have
beeu too much. It lead been said, Ann Hicks gave rude
and saucy replies to the command to turn her out; but,
it that were the fact, a great public officer ought to be
above such petty considerations.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord SEYMOUR said, as far as the motion for papers
was concerned, he had no objection to it. He would I

retnind the il'at by en Ass of Parliament, the
4 h George IV., c. 50 the Coin mi.sioners of Woods and
Forests bad eo power to ello v parsons to build houses or
cottages in the pa: ks. However much they might wish
it—hoe e,,er vie eons or I xe. Lent a Foor rrson might
be—the C melis-40eo r. bud no power to allow that poor
person to build in de-park. I- there *as no such
ia v. Hydie tar k would soon be caysred with the cottages
of poor peopl-. Thin, as to stalls. Leave to huve
stalls was 1.01 given by the Woods and Foresta Commis-
sioners, but by the ranger of the park. When the
building in the park came under the consideration el
the Woods and Forests, he forwarded a letter on the
subject to the Duke of Wellington as ranger, so there.
fore he was clear of any difficulty with respect to Mrs.
Hicks. He believed it was not an uncommon thing for
old women to squat down in the parks, and after they
had been there a little time great difficulty was found in
removing them. Now, with respect to Ann Hicks, she
got into the park by one pretext or another,
and when
requested to leave she would not remove. The Cons-
missieners of Woods and Forests had no power tonll
Anti Hicks to remain there. He was obliged by osthh
before the Barons of the Excln.quer not to permit sue
things, and therefore it was impossible for him to allow
Ann Hicks to remain. He was bound by an Act of Par-
liament, and as the trustee of the Crown, it was not in lit!power to see old women, virtuous or otherwise,
establish
themselves permanently in the park. The parks were
fur the erijoj meat of the public, and not for old wore°
to squat down in and build cottages. If the Act of
liarneut allowed such a thing, other old women wovit
be anxious to build bowers is Hyde Park, and a gill
many applicaticna would be made for that purrs'.
The Honourable and Gallant Member had declared the
Crystal Palace to be a delusion, and that he had Beret
been taken in by it; but it would appear that the Fit
and Gallant Member had been taken in completelY
Ann Hick,2.—(l, slighter.) As to the story of Al
Hicks, he had looked through all the matters conneete.
with his office. He found that her claim rested on litts
encroachments; that she had always asked for favellqii;
but he found not a word about her right and claim
consequence of services to George 11. As to the gat.,
ment of her house in Hyde•park being broken opeekl
the officers, that was totally untrue. Legal measures $
taken for her removal after her refusal, and on the et!.
steps being taken, Ann Hicks conceded and gave
As to the whole story about George 11., and her claire°
that account, as far as he could see, it appeared to itiglhe
to be totally untrue. What was her claim? She get
.'-ho
first step by deception—she wanted a wooden house;
got it—she wanted the house made larger, she got lesth";
but the wooden house would not answer her parpose•-'t $
had it increased in size, and this was the way she stlis
got to a stone house with a small garden. Bat it coign,
be said, " Why turn her out?" Because the first Li
croachment was contrar to Act of Parliament and ake;lo
regulations. For instance,to open a shop at pig
the park, when doubtful haracters were about, 80 70
notoriously the case, was, to say the least, inconvelqii
after the park gates were locked. It was obviousillo
duty to take care that no encroachment took place in
park, and especially encroachments connected with ""to
galarities. It was his duty, under the circurnstancesila
communicate with the ranger, and to cause the rereeTto
of Ann Hicks. If the House of Commons were seta
to preserve the parks to the public, they must take '''""
and prevent encroachment.
Mr. G. HUDSON could speak from his own 105
ledge to the great propriety of Ann Hicks's coed,
while she had the stone house in the park. He VI to
' dered she had been hardly used. It might be rignot
remove her, but if so let her have adequate and "do
inadequate compensation. Ann Hicks had told 13103h'e
same tale she bad told the Hon. and Gallant Met
(Colonel Sibthorp); and certainly, from what be "7, et
of her, he could not help thinking her case was °13,0g
great hardship. He was surprised to see the builuar,
erected—he was surprised this should have been P'ea
mitted, and that then she was turned out. He flats.
the Noble Lord had been misled by interested paro"ro
He hoped,. however, the Noble Lord would girl' PI"

cum pen. ation.
The motion was then agreed to.
GREECE. ee.
Lord D. STUART said when the treaty with aste 0.
in 1832 was executed by France, Russia, and this clo.
try, a loan was at the time granted by the three 0
vernments. A stipulation of a peculiar charseter:tr
introduced into the convention, by which it was r„-01
sumed this country would never be called upon for the
payment of money on account of that loan, and yet
practical working of that stipulation was such thet 'roe
land was called upon to pay 40,0001. on account (, tee
Greek Government. He wished, therefore, to em`
Noble Lord at the head of Forelgu Affairs with re- of
once to the effect of the 3d article of the conventio?or
1832, whether the Government will take into onside ire
Lion the propriety of appointing a Commission to inquo
into the manner in which the sum paid annu,uillertr
England, France, and Russia, on behalf of the kolf,- io
ment of Greece, had been expended; and to aseertsn'
of
what manner it would be desirable for the intereet tee
Greece to lay out that large sum of money Or
future?
Viscount PALMERSTON replied it was cinite tt
by the treaty of 1832 the English Government the ibis
they had taken security against any liability 0,1 tell
country for the debt of Greece. It was stipOues
with a view to that object, that the retfor•
should be applied to discharge liabilities r tee
any portion was taken for the service 01 -fed
State. That stipulation, from first to lest,, oat
been disregarded, and the consequence was thatil-hoep
had been incurred by the three powers. This he" - set
a subject of representation by different Goverilwe 11
and communications with France and Russia hadet,o 1
made; but he was sorry to say those represents'soe
and those communications had not yet led to all re,?reel‘
Tnis was the less excusable on the part of the,"t-beit
Government, because if they properly managed ttb
financial affairs there would be ample funds wher'-t4
to meet their engagements. The liability of this cc4d/7001*
occurred from irregularity in the management ,5,11„,.0 of
laction of the revenue, and the reckless expenal„l"-thil
it when collected. Ile was afraid great laxity Of tee
respect arose from the indisposition on the °faced
Greek Government to submit to the constitution tee
upon them, which was found very much to ditninis" O 0
financial resources of the country. Circumesecesderei
curred last year, as the House were aware, that rela rose
it difficult for her Majesty's Government to P
byt
this question on the attention of the other powers' i eet
he could assure the Hon. Member the matter sh°lll
be lost sight of, and that communications ehouldibestir
tered into with the two other powers, France all of
sia, with the view to make an impression on the "'-
right and justice of the Greek Government.

INCOME-TAX. fA
Mr. HUME had always given his humble eller Wee
make the income-tax more equal and less opPr,e9,-.040
bat had never been able to succeed thoroughly. 1.
t be
with the view of having the tax reconsidered, 1136,41
made an effort to get the tax renewed for one year 'dr
after the Chancellor of the Exchequer had opeuli,,,
Glared he would make ne alteration in it. He had 'eer,
ceeded in May last.in getting the tax limited to one,
in order that a Committee might look into the tO'e
Committee had been appointed, and he would vented et
say that no Committee had ever been more delalese•
more opposed. What had taken place? The Commit ;00
had met nine times, and seventeen witnesses 1205 isee
examined, the majority public officers. Theredeeoe
not one witness who gave evidence whose e"..,issee
ought not to be before the public. The Conlw,flea
had before them the way in which the assessors eeiosell
out the law, and one assessor particularly well 11,
out how inconveniences and inequalities Wig" he
remedied. As the session was
near its elelje'sbie
had submitted to the Committee propositionsS°oooll
effect, that the evidence should be published. The 4.001
mittee consented to the first and the last, and stri,e-w, he
the second one, which defeated his intentions. .1"°,1 sloe
contended that this was treating him unfairly, all oar'
the public, who were deeply interested in the we/ A 010
tioa was raised and expended. He had looke'',.o fA
history, and had found that the greatest distally 00
nations took their rise in financial difficulties.9ool
warned the Ministry that taxation was on an and 00 •
basis; that danger would arise unless it was Placed
sounder and a fairer basis. He considered the 1"
before the Committee a matter of great importanr.o'to
if properly conducted, great results might flow 11000
He was astonished that the Chancellor of the Ex" 00'
and his two nominees should have voted in theansee)
mittee against printing the evidence. He (Mr. .1-;0 die
had, however, got the evidence, and go forth
he ;old
public it would, in some shape or other, though t,' the
prefer that it should do so with the authoritY,l3o
House. He begged to move that the evidence ta%este
fore the Select Committee for inquiring into the la-
tex be laid upon the table. arr
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER e° efter
tulated the Hon. Member on his being again able,The
his recent indisposition, to appear among thesn't she
Hon. Member was quite correct in stating .t13,,,ad woi
question whether the evidence should be printed the
aiscussed by the Committee, and that they eaesie,4 be he
conclusion that it was so incomplete that it woe"- gear
expedient to lay it before the House. The Ilell'the
ber had talked of the majority against printing t Dot°
deuce as an unnatural combination; but he oughwob the
have forgotten the unnatural combination by %id poi
motion for the Committee was carried. lie ee the
know to which of the members of the Comwitt con'
lion. Member alluded when he spoke of bis (the, in the
caller of the Exchequer's) nominees having vote,'
..berto
majority. He had certainly named two of the tneoteer,
but one of them had voted owe way and one the geese
He thought there could be no doubt that the
of the
ought to refuse to interfere with the decision _ 0
o
Committee. He thought the Committee had cnrotose
wise decision, as the evidence in its incomPletu
ought not to be made public.
Sir J. WALMSLEY supported the motion. .11,60110aelij
it was quite true that the division in the Cortunkilswitooo
7 to 4, but three of the members besides the c'h
were absent. ije
'obe
Mr. WILLIAMS also supported the eseti l
feared that the object of the Chancellor of the r;130 to
quer in suppressing the evidence was to continue
.00 of
in ell its injustice and ins quality.
Lord J. RUSSELL, in reference to an obserottlhat
the Hon. Member for Montrose, reminded hibloority
of
would be irregular and a contempt of the soli
the House for any ono to publish the evidence!._., on 0
Mr. URQUHART expressed his surprise t_ribe oP'
n
question of this sort he alone should be left "
position benches. Chan°.
Colonel THOMPSON felt sure the
of the Exchequer wished to preserve the,i_nem°oesrosei
He thought his Hon. Friend the Member fort ,e celled
laboured under a fallacy
temporary income. If au income tr(led' if perpetualiair
temporary, it was taxed temporarily, and if the ~„r
with regard to wihuadtuustry
is
taxed in perpetuity, which was
with
thseoeu'
thing to be dune. He should vote the
of the Exchequer on this .
The H 01.150 then divided,q uestion
when there oPPesred--.