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London, England, 1851-05-23 00:00:00

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LONDON, FRIDA.y, litAY 23, 1851

Mr. ADDERLEY considered the advantages of 'the pro-
position obvious, and the necessity Equally plain.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL contended that no system
of education could be complete that did not include reli-
gious superintendence.
Mr. COBDEN wished to keep scholastic education to
iis Proper ground, and that was secular training.
Sir It. H. Nous never would admit the right of the
State to educate us subjects without reference to religion.
Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT believed that no .ystem of
education would be successful that did not fully develops
the
~„17....1Ev0rs principle.
the res
i:Titicrinril,
__,..,on•ru, being an advocate of the voluntary
A.;,,P_ w ',kid vote voinst the 'notion.
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The li,;ese divided. !um Mr. Fox,
For The narnbcrs were—
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it otuti::;n ... 49
M...joyit3*a • ••• ••• •... 139
M. IR DO Es moved rill? •••
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reduction or the duty .on hopst, by one-half, and to do,
credit.
Tho CHANCELLoR ot the taw
motion though he had noobj
do ,1011:7:11IER opposed the
proposed measure which would _o, that part of the
ing system of credit. 'wl Y with t. by exist-
After a discussion of a similar character to that
which took place a few evenings ago, the goose,
'divided,
;:hen hero appeared—
Fur the motion
Against it ... ...
Majority agar/11C

... ... 27
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It would be too much to expect that an y under-
taking, however excellent the motives w' nick may
have originated it, or the manner in which I ,he details
of its execution be carried out. should i succeed in
ensuring universal satisfaction. It is not, moreover,
generally
_.. grumbling is
to
hilarious
speaking, the characteristic of .J onri BULL
view matters en couleitr de robe. A vein of
-.,..„,,z___4....„ apt to be developed even. amidst his
s."-TILIJECIRA SYSTEM IN AMERICA.—As an example I most
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moments. We are not;, therefore,
.ET the perfection to which the telegraph system has been surprised to an .......i...,
S considerable extent to ho ?ar of the
`.,z_-, tvgin lunifiee, we may mention that the substance of voice of discontent
Lae iopa'silws was transmitted from New York to New i., and lamentation i sing ill-
orarmonioual
",),Orie". 84
...d ante of 2,000 miles—and replies received y here
*i14:441,4*,..4, city, in the incredibly short space of three burst of jubilation hailing 14 '4:<...3 0 Minutes.
vst
Great Industrial Exhibition, and there amid tt e general
g the openir g of the
Qv London tradesmen

In the House of Lords last night,
The Property-tax Bill was read a third time and
pasted.
The Earl of CARLISLE moved the second reading of
the Episcopal and Capitular Estates Managerueut Bill.
The provisions of the Bill embodied the recommenda-
tions contained in the reports of the Commissioners
presented last year, and if the second reading wtre car.
tied he should propose that the Bill be referred to a
Select Committee,
The Bishop of LOND. x opposed the Bill.
The Duke of RICHMOND and the Earl of HARROWBY
recommended that it should be read a second time, in
order to be referred to a Select Committee, a recom-
mendation in which Lord STANLEY concurred.
The Duke of &emelt:Tee opposed the second reading
of the Bill. A conversatifin followed, in which the Mar.
quis of LANSDOWNE, the Bishop of (Neon"), the End
of ABERDEEN. and several other Peers took part, and
on a division the selyind reading was carried by a ma-
jority of eighteen, the numbers being—Conteets, 46;
Non-contents, 28.
In the Commons,
New writs were ordered for Newry and Argyllshire.
Mr. RWART moved the following resolution:—" That
it is expedient that the investigations which have been
made in the lawsiLßicci:~gcapital punishment in England
be extended to Scotland, and (as fir as possible) to the
colonial possessions of this country."
Mr. Fox MAULS and Sir GEORGE GREY agreed with
the spirit of the resolution, but feared difficulties would
be found in carrying it into effect. Mr. IluinE expressed
a hope that Government would take up the subject; and
Mr. fialvws explained the practice in the colonies. 1:11-
tim-tely the motion was withdrawn.
Mr. W. J. Fox moved, "That it is expedient to pro-
mote the education of the people in England and Wales
by the establishment of free schools for secular instruc-
tion, to be supported by local rates, and managed by
committees, elected specially for that purpose by the
ratepayers.
Sir GEORGE GREY opposed the motion.
Mr. Hulls thought the property of the country was
bound to afford education to those who wanted it.
Mr. A. B. HOPE was opposed to all schemes of educa-
tion that did not give the utmost development to religi-
ous opinions.
Colonel THOMPSON asked, why mix up religious in-
struction with matters with which it had no necessary
connexion? Was it absolutely impossible that boys
and girls should be taught to read and the like without
teaching them religious dogmas at the same time?
Mr. TRELAWNY looked upon sound instruction as
affording an additional check against crime. Even
on the ground of economy the motion ought to he adopted.
Mr. W. PATTER opposed the motion.
Mr. WIGRAM did not think the necessity of the lower
orders a reason for adopting a general scheme of edu-
cation,