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seventeen day*, end in the latter period ate lveregc
of tight days and on .the whole 'period 'the
average was but fOurteen or fifteen, five ritil'y
mote than the. Commissioners 'had thought he.
cessary, and nearly 11,:e same number that the:
Clerk had stated in his examination. Now if it
should.turn out that this statemeric was eaten, he
could not admit a doubt that it would be sufficient
to determine the HOuse and the 'Public to examine
more narrowly and minutely into the matter and al.
legations of the Report before they would ground
upon it either censure or disapprobation, There -
were four different errors in the single statement,'
and these
.proved 'unanswerably the necessity of a
fuller investigation. • This could not be prositited
in the whole :HOuse, nor with the-SreAuti. in the
Chair ; it, could only be followed up with elfeef in
a Select Committee. It was. only by adopting-such
a' course that they would be enabled to do what
was right for the Public, and at the same time fair
toftlie individual. As the.Supoiasition of partici.
pation on the part of his Lordship-in the profits
arising from the use of the public money formed
no part of the charge, but was glanced at as matter
of. suspicion only, it was wholly unnecessary for
him.to advert to it, particularly as that was to be
made the ground of further investigation. He
had hoped, after the declaration that had been
made ,by the Noble Lord in his consmunica...
tion to. the •Commissioners laid before the House,
which he had stated himself ready to verify with
thesanftionof a solemn -oath, that he should have
heard no more of suspicion.. *The lion. Gentleman-
had observed, That the ground upon which the Nu.
hie Lord had declined answering, had been well
understood ; but the Noble Lcirri, by his letter
had, declared, that his refusal to ,answer had arisen
solely in consequence of the- way in which Mr.
Trotter had kept his accounts, and because he could
not possibly kolw whether Mr. Trotter might not
have made advances to hint 'Jut of the Public Money.
—.—The Hon. Gentleman had adveried to the sum of
toomool. paid to Lord Melville's account, -during
the whole period that he was in Office, and until
the whole of Lord Melville's account with Mr.
Troiter should lie made up,- it was impossible to
decide upon that (Jet. The House should look, into
those accounts:which were loose and difficult, befOre
it could pronounce whether any advances fro :n ihe
Public Money had been made to his Lordship. If
- the Investigation should be proceeded with, he was
convinced, that many Sums stated to have beho rid.
in the name of Lord Melville, would appear to have
been applied to official purposes ; how tat that was
the case it was not for him to anticipate then, before
the Inquiry should he instituted., The House would
determine for itself When the Investigation should
take place. Before they could judge whether any
Sums of Public Money had been so advanced, they
shoUld see the credit account of Lord Melville, they
should also. see the different sums peid in by Mr.
Trotterfor Lord Melville, on account' of hi, salary
as Treasurer of die Navy, as also an account of his
unappropriated salary as Keeper Of the Signet in
Scotland, and for Dividends in the Funds. Would

Gtnilimen tindlir these circumstances give way to

surmises P Would they. think it strange that Lord
Melville, knowing that he had no Contract with
Mr: 'fritter, no participation with, and knowing
also the' unfolunate way in which Trotter kept
his-accounts, had declined answering until he had
ascertained the state of these 'accounts 'f And it it
should appear even that 'a few thdusAnds had been by
inadvertence so advaticed,could,any, Gentleman sup.
pose that that would luve'been any ohjztt to a Noble
Loyd in a high and distinguished'Oilice of tru4t and
hr' our ? He would flat think it possible for a liberal

and enlightened mind, for even common sense, to en.
tertain, ouch an opiaion. Ii so, then be contended,
than the materials before the Ilitise were insufikient
to form a final judgment, and that a further investi.
gation was ab,olutely necesiary, and, that such
veltigation could not be cunklutled in. the House,
but in :sSelett C immittee, which could be managed
with wt much delay. With' aiese sentiMents,
felt it unnecessary and improper to say more on the
subjed. He should therefore
,move, as all Amend.
orient, that (4 the Tenth Report be referred to a
Stied Committee„*?

Mr. FOX suggested, the propriety of moving the
prevkus question rather than an Amendment, in
order toat theprevious Resolutions might be enter.
ed on the Jaffnals. , .
The CIi,I:\CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
no obj,,:ct ion to the cot rse proposed, as he should
thereby obotin the substantiiil objeel of his k.l,,tion,
ind understanding,,however, that if the previous
Questiqu should be agreed to, he should'afterwards
move for the appointment
.of a Seidl Committee ; he
then moved the previous,QUestion. 'On the Question
being put,
Lard HENRY PETTY,at the same time that. he
. • •
aCkn4Wietigr was imposithlo for him to folloW the
Right Hon. Gmtlettsan "through the vast range he
hail taken in his view of the subjea under discos.
sion, was anxious to stare the ground on which lie
supported the original Motion. He had never felt
greater .surprise than when he heard die Riglt
Hon. Gentleman allcdge that -his Hon. Fitend (LW,
WIIIifittEAD) 114 d travelled out of the record of
the lao.ts in'the statement which he had 'laid before
the House: This must be~ matter of surprise to the
Hothe also, when the whole of his Hon.'Ftiend's
Charges,: except the concluding ones, were merely
matter OlJact, and nothing but matter of fan, • In
truth the whole• of what had 'fallen from his Hon.
Fiiend, -was, either mattes, ,'f fact,,or plain and mi.
mediitte de:ln-Won froth .W. The Right Hon.-Geo-
tletrian urged', with a view . to induce the Howe to
agree .to the appointment of a &lett Corn:mace to
jnquire into ,thus siijtCt,that the attempt was made
rn Irg",tice the passions of the House, and that the
subket involved a great deal of complicated details
cif figures. In considering this latter point, it was
necessary the Noose should recoiled, ,that sits CJII.
'iliiioll that existed in chi., way arose from toe
regular unit tier in which Lord ,Melville
,and hi, Pay.
master kepi their Accounts. It %VAS uI)V-i,ws,
ilctw-
ever, from the plain matter of fad. Ow' there "a
been a violation of the Mt of Parliament. Tbe Right
Honourable Grotteinan opposiie to a
charge allaying ()flitted tazts in his st•itement• He
had omitred 'thr very material fact that Lird Mel=
vitli liad allowed; he had violted the Act 44 Pallta.
• ITICOI, Paymaster Oil W,104.1114N