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EVENING, APRIL 9, 1851

great numbers of persons crowded to the workhouses as
a last resort in a state of weakness and disease which led
to a very great mortality. These are the consequences
that we have seen—the consequences, not of any law of
Parliament, or of any act of the Government, but the
consequences of the state of society which existed in
1845, and of the dreadful famine which followed that
year. Why those consequences were as certain as that
when an earthquake happen. in a country you will find
buildings thrown down, as that when you have a dread-
ful pestilence in a country you will find there a dreadful
mortality, or as that after a dreadful hurricane you will
find trees torn up by the roots. These are not conse-
quences for which the Government and the Legislature
can immediately provide; they are the consequences
which have followed the calamities I have mentioned.
We now find, according to the statement of my Right
Hon. Friend, that although Ireland cannot be said to be
in anything like a state of prosperity, yet there are
symptoms in that country of a less aggravated distress
than that which prevailed in former years. We have
seen that, although out-door relief was never refused
when absolutely necessary, that relief has been di-
minished to such an extent that during the last three
months of the last year the whole cost of the outdoor
relief in Ireland did not amount to more than
1,0001. ; and since that time it has amounted
at the utmost to 2504 a week. That at least
is a symptom that there are not so many persons re-
quiring relief as there had been in former years.
Then with regard to crime, we find that the number of
crimes and outrages returned to the constabulary in Ire-
land has diminished. There are various other circum-
stances which tend to show that the country is some-
what less distressed than in former years. That is the
state of Ireland at present. It may require a remedy
from the Government and the Legislature; but we are
hardly likely to find that remedy by going into the pro-
posed Committee of the whole House. My Hon. Friend
the Member for Kerry says that a relaxation of some of
our laws with respect to the application of capital would
be found of great use in particular cases, and he men-
tioned his reasons for entertaining that belief. But if
that case requires the attention of the House, let it be
brought before the House as a separate question. Again,
if the state of the relations between landlords and
tenants requires the consideration of Parliament, let the
Government or some Hon. Member bring that subject
under our notice. But we should hardly in a Committee
of the whole House be able to decide upon any one of
those questions; and neither should we have before us
any plan for dealing with them. I, therefore, trust that
the House will not adopt the proposal of the Hon. Baronet
the Member for Waterford.—(Cries of" Divide.")
Mr. F. FRENCH, who was very indistinctly heard
amidst the noise in the House, and the impatient cries
for a division, was understood to say that the evils of the
famine in Ireland had been greatly aggravated by the
poor-law.
Sir H. W. BARRON replied. He distinctly and em-
phatically denied that he had stated that ho wished to
have the poor-law in Ireland repealed. He had objected
to the out-door relief system, and to nothing else. In
the next place, he denied that he had said they should
return to the old system of protection. He had
merely stated the real condition of Ireland, and had
left the House to draw its own inferences from that
statement.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the motion . . 129
Against it... .. 138
Majority against the motion ... --9
The announcement of these numbers was hailed
with considerable cheering from the Irish Members and
the Members on the opposition side of the House.
Mr. FRE WEN moved for a Select Committee to in-
quire into and report to this House on the advantages
to be derived by the establishment of a mail train betwen
Great Yarmouth, in Norfolk, and Leicester and Rugby,
to meet the mail trains at Rugby, going to and return-
ing from Liverpool and Holyhead.
Mr. C. LEWIS said that the question to which the
Hon. Gentleman's motion referred possessed no na-
tional interest, and did not concern any of the great lines
of communication, as, for example, the transmission of
the French mails between Dover and London, and the
Irish mails between London and Holyhead. He pro-
mised that the subject should be fully considered by the
Government and the Postmaster-General, with reference
to the public revenue and the local interests concerned;
but it was hardly a question which required the appoint-
ment of a Committee of Inquiry.
Mr. FREWEN, upon the assurance of the Right Hon.
Gentleman that the subject should receive the serious
consideration of the Post-office authorities, would not
press his motion to a division. He might be permitfed
to observe, however, that the Right Hon. Gentleman
was mistaken in supposing that it was not an important
national question, inasmuch as all the letters connected
with the shipping interest on the coast of Norfolk in-
tended to go to any of the northern ports—such as
Hull and Newcastle on the eastern, and Liverpool on the
western coast—lAd now to be sent by way of London,
The motion was then, by leave, withdrawn.
On the motion of Mr. SCULLY, were ordered—
Copies of all correspondence, since the Ist day of
December last, between the Clogheen board of guar-
dians, the Poor-law Commissioners in Ireland, the Poor-
law board in England, and the Lambeth board of guar-
dians, relative to the alleged illegal removal of a pauper
named Margaret MiCarthy and her two children from
the Lambeth to the Clogheen workhouse last November.
A return of any bill or bills of costs lodged in the
proper office for taxation in the Court of Chancery, Ire-
land, in any cause in which George Matthews was a re-
lator, or one of the relators, and A. J. Macrory,
the solicitor for the relators, since 1830.
Also, a return of the names of the 39 principal mari-
time and internal markets of Ireland from wbicn Mr.
Griffith constructed the average scale of prices ap-
pended to his letter to the Lord-Lieutenant on the 23d
day of December last; with the prices of the different
articles of agricultural produce mentioned in the said
scale in the several markets, on the Ist day of every
month during the years 1848 and 1849.
MURDER OF:A BRITISH OFFICER NEAR ADEN.
Colonel K. TYNTE wished to inquire of the Secre-
tary of the Board of Control if any official intelligence
had arrived relative to the murder of a British officer
near Aden, and if so, what steps the Government in-
tended taking in consequence of the outrage?
Mr. WILSON concluded the Gallant Colonel referred
to the report of the murder of Captain Milnes. No
accounts had been received beyond those in the public
prints, but in all probability would be by the next In-
dian mails.
The Small Tenements Railway Bill was read a second
time, on the motion of Mr. J. A. SMITH.
Lord ASHLEY brought up his Bill to encourage the
construction of lodging-houses for the working classes,
which was read a first time.
The remaining orders of the day having been disposed
of, the 1101130 adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock.

PARLIAM

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE BRADFORD
REFORM ASSOCIATION.
(EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY.)
Monday the 7th, was the rather pompously
announced onslaught on the Ministerial proposal on the
Income-tax. It finally solved itself into very little. An
anxiety to protest against alluding to any connexion
the question might have with Free Trade, called to me-
mory the popular tradition, of the man at the bar who
told the judge he desired to let the matter drop;
while the imperfect manner in which the proposal
was adhered to by the party that made it, tempted to
recollection of the lady who, " Saying I will ne'er
consent, consented." In spite of an affected shyness in
the use of terms, the " interests of British industry,"
meaning the suppression of your industry to divide the
proceeds among somebody else, came out upon us in ex-
press words. And what I had thought to be the for-
lorn and abandoned mystery, of " adding taxation to
price," figured prominently in the speech of one of the
ablest and newest recruits of the Anti-commercial party.
What has come over the spirit of the Free Traders and
their dream, is more than can be expected of me to tell; but
in all this contest between the two antagonistic principles
of raising a tax from the wealth of the rich or the bread
of the poor, the accredited organs of Free Trade kept
aloof from the debate. Surely this is not the way in
which human affairs are managed. If the Free Traders
are not beaten at the next general election, it will be in
spite of human means taken to ensure it. Nothing can
make me conceal from myself or anybody the conviction,
that the three sessions of Parliament which have gone
by, were the seed-time in which should have been se-
cured the permanent triumph of the Free Trade cause;
—that no folly or fallacy on the part of the Protec-
tionists should have been permitted to pass, without
receiving the same prompt and fearless castigation it
would have had in the Free-Trade Hall ;—that
there ought to have been established a system
of watch and watch, by which a certain number of the
men who have taken the Free Trade enlisting-money by
being sent to Parliament, should have been continually
on duty, bound to reply wherever the enemy would pre-
sent himself. Instead of which, with the exception of
the members of the Government, who are the only men
by whom any good thing hangs, the course of the Pro-
tectionists has been one scene of parliamentary triumph,
with hardly au opposition except on rare occasions a
flashy speech meant to be seen in a newspaper, and not
directed with, either point or vigour to the movements of
the opponent.
Why those who served you so well when the contest
was in Temperance Halls and meeting-houses,
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London, April 9, 1851

duty off bricks has occasioned many !ingenious minds to
BRICKS AND BRICK-31ARING.—The removal of the
for this purpose has recently
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thereon, and the cons 9.
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of ten eexhibiting;nlhours,aodst acn° lin9t,Poawit:oo
and pipes and parts of pipes of any complexity, may be
thrown off with equal facility. Messrs. Randell and Saun-
ders are the patentees, who purpose placing their invention
and square,
in the Exposition.
FADVEIITISEMENT. j—TliE EARL OF ALDBOROUGD
AND Ilouoviey's riu.s.—An astounding cure by this miraculous
medicine, aster every other means had failed. See extract from his
Lordship's letter, dated "
Bella'Vi Messina, Leghorn, Feb. 21, 1845.
Professor Holloway—Sir :I gto acquaint you that your pills hav e ef-
fected a cure of a disorder in my liver and stomach which all the most
eminent of the facnity, at home and all over the continent, had not
been able to effect; nay, not even the waters of Carlsbad or Ma-
rienbad. (Signed) " Atnuosionort." These wonderful pills will
cure any disease of the liver or stomach.—Sold (also Holloway's
Ointment) at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, el trawl, and
ti all nacgitne Yglit9.ll. 49uglI0ut tin Civilised world,

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(From the Yi tes and Proceedings of the House of Common.)

TUESDAY, inct..-IL 8.
STATE OF IRELAND.

Motion made and Question proposed, " That this House
do resolve itself into a Committee, -to take into consideration
the state of Ireland, with a view to relieve the distress there
existing :" —Amendment proposed„ at the end of the Ques-
tion, to add the words, " and more especially to consider the
best means of amending the laws r elating to the relationship
of landlord and tenant :" Question, " That those words be
there added," put, and agreed to :—Main Question, as
amended, put. The House divided :

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Beresford, William Gore, W. R. O. O'Brien, Sir Timothy
Berkeley G. F. Grace, O. D. O'Connell, John
Bernard, Viscount Grattan, Henry O'Connell, M. J.
Blake, M. J. Greene, John O'Flaherty, Anthony
Blandford, Marquis Grogan, Edward Packe, C. W.
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Boldero, George 11. Gwyn, Bowel Ponsonby, C. F.
Brentridge, Richard Halsey, T. P. Portal, Melville
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-our of the retention of Smithfield Mark et'

THE DECLARATION IN FAVOUR OF THE RETEN-

TION OF SMITHFIELD MARKET.

Yesterday a letter, of which the followiug is a copy, was
forwarded to Lord John Russell, ➢I.P.:
" Office of the City of London Central
Markets Association. _
_ _ _

"My Lord,—T have the honour of transmitting herewith
the declaration of 7,363 citizen electors of London to their
representatives in Parliament (your Lordship being one) ex-
pressive of their opinions against the Government proposal to
extinguish Smithfield Market, and their earnest hope that
your Lordship and your colleagues will energetically support
the corporate scheme for constructing an unobjectionable
cattle market in or near the present central position of Smith-
field. In forwarding this complete list, I beg leave to assure
your Lordship, that it will be found to avoid the errors which
disfigure the several instalments previously transmitted. The
duplicates which abound in the City Register have been de-
tected and corrected, and all names to which any doubt
may have attached from the disgraceful conduct of one of
the clerks in my employ have been expunged. Large as is
the number of the names appended to this document, I
would state for your Lordship's information that yesterday
upwards of 200 signatures were added; and that more than
.50 have been received this forenoon, since the completion of
the list. Nor is there any question that, if time permitted,
other thousands would yet desire so to express their deep
interest in the trade and prosperity of the City, and their
creditable indignation at so unprecedented an attack upon
corporate rights, trading interests, and personal property.
But, this were surely needless, since the list shows a majority
of 226 electors over the triumphant number which placed
ypur Lordship at the head of the poll for the City, in 1847.
lour Lordship will, I am sure, admit that your constituents
then nobly responded to your appeals; and I hope I shall
not offend by the expression of my hope and my conviction
that their present appeal to your Lordship will be neither
unheard nor unheeded.—I have the honour to subscribe my-
self, my Lord, your Lordship's humble servant, &c.,
(Signed) " Jeatas ACLAND.
" The Right Hon. Lord John Russell, A 1.?., &c.,
April 8, 1851."

The humble petition of the Lord MR Yor, Aldermen, ani
Commons of the city of London, in Common Council ai-
sembled,

Sheweth,
That a Bill has been introduced into your Honourable
House as a public Bill, intituled " A Bill for providing a
Metropolitan Market and Conveniences connected therewith
in lieu of the Cattle Market at Smithfield."
That such Bill, as your petitioners are advised and believe,
is in the nature of a private Bill, being a Bill for the erect-
ing, improving, repairing, maintaining, or regulating of
market, and to authorize the levying of tolls, rates, and du.
ties; for which and other reasons such Bill comes within the
description of a Bill to which your Honourable House has
ruled that your Standing Orders are applicable, and that the
Standing Orders Committee of your Honourable House have
accordingly resolved, " That in the case of the Smithfield-
market Removal Bill the Standing Orders ought to be dis-
pensed with ; that the parties be permitted to proceed with
their Bill on inserting the notices once in the .London Ga-
zette, and for three successive weeks in the newspaper; and
that the Committee of Selection be instructed not to appoint
the first meeting of the Committee on the Bill for an earlier
day than Thursday the first day of May," which resolution
has been reported to your Honourable House, and agreed to.
That the said Bill seriously affects the interests of the citi-
zens of London, who are represented by your petitioners, as
also those of all persons using and frequenting the said
market of Smithfield and the neighbourhood thereof; and
that the said Bill infringes and abrogates certain of the pre-
scriptive rights which your petitioners have had and enjoyed
from time whereof the memory of man runneth not to the
contrary, " which have been confirmed by charters granted
by successive sovereigns, from the time of King Edward the
Third, and which have received further and recent confirma-
tion by the opinions of the judges, given in the House of
Lords, upon questions submitted to them in the progress of a
Bill for establishing a market for the sale of cattle, in the
parish of St. Mary, Islington, in one thousand eight hundred
and thirty-five, and by the provisions which, in pursuance of
such opinions, were inserted in the Act fifth and sixth
William the Fourth, chapter iii.
That your petitioners are advised and believe that the plan
proposed by the saidßill is not adapted to effect the purposes
intended.

That it is further proposed by the said Bill to invest certain
Commissioners, to be created by the said Bill, with extraordi-
nary and unprecedented powers.
That your petitioners are the promoters of a Bill, intituled
" A Bill for Enlarging the Site of Smithfield-market, and
Improving the Approaches thereto," with respect to which
the Standing Orders of your Honourable House have been
declared to be complied with, and which your petitioners are
prepared to prove is far more suitable for the objects contem-
plated than the Bill so introduced as aforesaid.
Your petitioners therefore humbly pray your Honourable
House that, in the event of the said first-mentioned Bill
being proceeded with, it may be referred to the same Com-
mittee which shall be appointed to consider the Bill pro-
moted by your petitioners; or that you will otherwise
permit your petitioners to appear by themselves, their coun-
sel, or agents, and to be heard with their witnesses at the bar
of your Honourable House against the second reading of the
said Smithfield Removal Bill, and generally in support of the
allegations herein contained.
Signed by order of the Court,
HENRY ALWORTII MEREWETIIER.