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London, England, 1851-04-16 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS.

From the Voics and Proceedings of the Efetme of Can:mins
TUESDAY, APRIL 15.
KAFIR TRIBES.

Motion made, and Question proposed, " That an bumble
Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she will
be graciously pleased to appoint one or more Commissioner.,
with instructions to proceed to South Africa, to inquire and
report as to the best mode of adjusting the relations between
this Country and the Kafir Tribes ; and also, of determining
the engagements entered into by her Majesty's High Con-
miEsioner in his settlement of the extended territory
Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word "That"
to the end of the Question, in order to add the words "*
Select Committee be appointed to inquire into the relations
between this Country and the Kafir and other Tribes on out,
South African Frontier," instead thereof:—Question pat,
" That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the
Question." The House divided :

MINORITY—AYES, 59.
Arkwright, George Gaskell, J. M. Palmer, Robert
1 Baillie, 11. J. Gladstone, W. E. Repton, G. W. J.
Bankes, George Goold, Wyndham Roebuck, J. A.
Beckett, William Greene, John Scully, Francis
Burghley, Lord Guernsey, Lord Seymer, H. K.
Cardwell, Edward Halsey, T. P. Spooner, Richard
Carew, W. P. Hamilton, Lord C. Stafford, Augusttui
Child, Smith Herbert, Sidney Stanley, E. H.
Christopher, R. A. Hornby, John Stuart, H.
Cocks, T. S. Fiume, J. Start, H. G.
Deedes, W. Keating, Robert Sutton, J. H.
Disraeli, B. Lockhart, W. Urquhart, David
Duckworth, Sir J. Manners, Lord G. Vesey, Thomas
Dundas, George Meux, Sir Henry Vyse, It. 11.
Dunne, Colonel Miles, P. W. S. Wakley, Thomas
East, Sir J. B. Monsen, William Wegg-Prosser, F.
Edwards, Henry Mowatt, Francis Williams, W.
Evelyn, William J. Naas, Lord
Filmer, Sir E. Noel, Gerald J. Truism.
Fox, W. J. O'Connell, John Molesworth,Sir W.
Fuller, A. E. O'Connell, M. J. Adderley, C. E.

MAJORITY—NOES, 129.
Adair, Hugh E. Evans, John Morris, David
Adair, R. ShaftO Ewart, William
Fitzwilliam. G. W.
.. 11, ulgrave, Earl
Aglionby, H.
.IS orreys, Lord
Forster, Matthew
Anson, Colonel
W.
Sir D.
Anson, Viscount Fertescue, Chichester ellic2cfT
Fortescue, J. W.
Anstey, T. C. Paget, Lord A.
Colonel
FreestUn,
Bagshaw, John Paget, Lord Clarence
Baines, M. T. G each, Charles Palmerston, VII.
Baring, Sir F. Glyn, G. C. Parker, John
Bell, Jacob Goddard, A. L. Pinney. William
Bellew, R. M. Grenfell, C. Pascoe Plowden, w. a.
Berkeley, Henry F. Grenfell, Charles W. Price, Sir Robert
Berkeley, C. L. Grey, Sir G. Pusey, Philip
Bernal, Ralph Grey, Ralph W. Rawdon, Colonel
Best, John Hall, Sir B. Rice, E. R.
Bothell, Richard Hardcastle, J. A. Rich, Henry
Birch, Sir T. Hawes, Benj. Romilly, Colonel
Booker, T. W. Ileadlam, T. E. Rumbold, C. E.
Boyle, Colone. Heald, James Russell, Lord J.
Brocklehurst, John Heywood, James Russell, E.
Brotherton, Joseph Hindley.Charles Seymour, Lord
Bunbury, E. H. Hobhouse, T. B. Sheridan, B. B.
Butler, P. S. Howard, Lord E. Smith, J. A.
Buxton, Sir E. Howard, C. W. G. Somerville, Sir W.
Carter, J. B. Howard, E. G. Spearman, H. J.
Cavendish, G. 11. Jocelyn, Viscount Stanford, J. F.
Chaplin,lW. J. Kershaw, James Stanton, W. S.
Clay, James Labouchere, Henry Tenison, E. K.
Clay, Sir W.' Lawley, B. R. Thompson, Colonel
Cockburn, Sir A. Lewis, G. C. Thornely, Thomall
Coke, Edward K. Locke, Joseph Towneley, John
Collins, William Mackinnon, W. A. Townley, R. G.
Cowper, W. F. 31`Gregor, John Townshend, Captain
Craig, Sir W. G. Mahon, O'Gorman Vane, Lord H.
Crowder, It. B. Mandeville, Viscount Willcox, Brodie
Marshall, J. G.
Dawson, T. V. Williamson, Sir H.
D'Eyncourt, C. T. Marshall4Willlam -. Wilson, James
Douglas, Sir C. Matheson, Colonel Wilson, Matthew
Duncan, George Maule, Fox Wood, Sir Charles
Dundas, Admiral Melgund, Viscount Wood, Sir W. P.
Dundas, Sir D. Milnes, R. M. Wye. M.
Ebrington, Viscount
Mitchell, T. A. TELLILLS.
Ellice, 8., jun. Moody, C. A. Hayter, W. G.
Ellis, John Morison, Sir W. Hill, Lord M.

Words added :—Main Question, as amended, put. The
House divided :

MAJORITY—AYES, 128.
Adair, Hugh E. Evans, J. Mu'grave, Earl
Adair, R. A. E wart, William Norreys, Lord
Aglionby, H. A. Fitxwilliam, G. W Norreys,
.Sir D.
Anson, Colonel Forster, Matthew Ord, William
Anson, Viscount Fortescue, Chichester Paget, Lord A.
Anstey, Thomas Fortescue, J. W. Paget, Lord C.
Bagshaw, John Freestun, Colonel Palmerston, VIA.
Baines, M. T. Geach, Charles Parker, John
Baring, Sir F. T. Glyn, G. C. Pinney, ,W.
Bell, Jacob Goddard, A. L. Plowden, W. H.
Bellew, R. M. Grenfell, C. Pascoe Price, Sir R.
Berkeley, C. L. G. Grenfell, Charles W. Pusey, P.
Bernal, Ralph Grey, Sir George Rawdon, Colonel
Best, John Grey,:R. W. Rice, E. R.
Bethel', Richard Hall, Sir B. Rich, Henry
Birch, Sir T. Hardcastle, J. A. Romilly, Colonel
Booker, T. W. Hawes, B. Rumbold, C. E.
Boyle, Colonel Headlam, T. E. Russell, Lord John
Brocklehurst, J. Heald, James Russell, Edward S.
Brotherton, J. Heywood, James Seymour, H. D.
Binibury, E. H. Hindley, C. Sheridan, E. R.
Butler, P. S. Hobhouse, T. B. Smith, John Abel
Buxton, Sir E. Howard, Lord E. Somerville, Sir W.
Carter, J. B. Howard, C W. G. Spearman, H. J.
Cavendish, G. H. Howard,iE. G. Stanton, W. H.
Chaplin, W. J. Jocelyn, Viscount Tenison, Edward K.
Clay, James Kershaw, James Thompson, Colonel
Clay, Sir W. Labouchere, H. Thornely, T.
Cobbold, J. C. Lawley, B. R. Towneley, John
Cockburn, Sir A. Lewis, G. C. Townley, R. G.
Coke, Hon. E. K. Locke, Joseph Townshend, Capt.
Collins, William Mackinnon, W. A. Vane, Lord H.
Cowper, W. F. M'Gregor, John Willcox, Brodie
Craig, Sir W. G. Mahon, O'Gorman Williams, W.
Crowder, R. E. Mandeville, Viscount Williamson, Sir IL
Dawson, T. V. Marshall, J.',,G. Wilson, James
D'Eyncourt, T. Marshall, W. Wilson, Matthew
Douglas, Sir C. Matheson, Colonel Weod, Sir Charlie'
Duncan, George Maule, Fox Wood, Sir W. P.
Dundas, Admiral Melgund, Viscount Wyvill,l3larinadnks
Dundas, Sir David Mines, R. M.E
Ebrington, Lord Mitchell, T. A.
Ellice, Edward, jun. Morison, Sir W.
Ellis, John Morris, David

TELLERS.
Hayter, W. G.
Hill, Lord ISLarcal

MINORITY-NOES, 60:
Arkwright, George Gaskell, J. M. O'Connell, M. J.
Baillie, 11. J. Gladstone, W. E. Palmer, Robert
Bankes, G. Goold, Wnydham Repton, G. W.
Beckett, W. Greene, John Roebuck, J. A.
Burghley, Lord Guernsey, Lord Scully, Francis
Cardwell, Edward Halsey, T. P.

_ .
Carew, W. 11. P. Hamilton, Lord C. Spooner, R.
Child, Smith Herbert, Sidney Stafford, Augustin
Christopher, R. Hornby, John Stanford, J. F.
Cocks, T. S. Hume, Joseph Stanley, E. H.
Deedes, W. Keating, Robert Stuart, H.
Disraeli, B. Lockhart, W. Sturt, Henry G.
Duckworth, Sir J. Manners, Lord G. Sutton, H M.
Dundas, George Melia, Sir 11. Urquhart, David
Dunne, Colonel Miles, Philip W. S. Vesey, Ilon. T.
East, Sir J. Monsell, William Wyse, R. 11. H. 11.
Edwards, H. Moody, C. A. Wakley, T.
Evelyl, W. J. Mowatt, Francis Wert-Prosser, F.
Filmer, Sir E. Naas, Lord TELLERS.
Fox, W. J. Noel, G. J. Molesworth, Sir W.
Fuller, A. E. O'Connell, John Adderley, C. E.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE BRADFORD
REFORM ASSOCIATION.
(EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY.)
Sir,—On Monday the 14th, the Assessed Taxes and
Timber and Coffee Duties Acts were considered in Com-
mittee. Most important principles were developed and
laid down on the part of the Government, which the
commercial and industrial community must, as I have
said before, be insane, if they do not view as indisput-
able reasons why they should defend the existing Go-
vernment as the apple of their eye. On the question of
the House Tax, there was of course the usual array, of
people not liking to pay taxes. It is impossible to
quarrel with the expression of thiszoo_frbereeeegladritgtr;
asbtaui but
,w
wu
we inwas
sy
turn must not be quarrelled with for saying, there is •
higher consideration for those who are capable of enter-
taining it. Under the existing conviction that there
must and will be taxes, a reasonable object, l•
addition to paying as little as we can, u
ato
get the taxes that are to be, shiftedo from
awtroantgume, way
is
gtooodthpeolirciyghint;
things
to dot
anndomettehiang:
Now what the Chancellorofofcatfihee
this, " I have no doubt it would be le r x pleasant to my
patients, that I should ,take off Window-taxthetira.::x_an_n_ottnh.B,
oTanuigdmhbit:ttort.
But.lxtner nadYo a t tOttae-tax,
nothing in its stead.
which is a good form I
take off such
tax, which are bad ones•" In which every man and
As before, let us have one thing at once.
bad to good, while the
him. sprinkling
tis taxes shifted ss I:f frf
reooe from sbuopypworittha
Let us get the t
wind blows that way; and then the question of keeping
down the best taxation to a minimum, will come in due
order under the operation of the checks for that end
ell'°•erations in the Coffee duties, brought out from
aPr3,ovhuideng Member a curious resurrection
_ of what we used
to hear at Corn-law meetings; and we have a fair warn-
ing of what it is the Protectionists would give us. He
summed up all the disadvantages of bad climate, bad soil.
and long voyage, which attend the procuring of coffee
from Ceylon, and pressed it on the wondering House as
the reason why we should volunteer to pay for the dearer
coffee.

On Tuesday was a lively debate en the Kafir War—
the play of Hamlet with the part of Hamlet omitted.
Everybody talked of all imaginable Kafir wars except
the present; the great point for concealment and non-
observation being, where the present Kafir war came
have
from. The cry of "irreclaimable savages" ou's
reminded the House of Boz's story of the cacik*ln, !id'
who runs at a strange cat with a red-hot iron, exciatm-
ing, " 0, that is one of the most deceitftilleste creatures
that is." The speech of the Member for Sheffield
be nuts for the Aborigines Proteotioen
House Society;
did, La
they must not make the mistake
atilinatts come taking it seriously. It is on record
to,ergSyemrvaan of the
Est a Estab-
lishment said
soul read Swift's "Advicethought extremely
there were many things in it be
sbould have
objectionable, and regretted a
lishment should have set his hand to such opinions.
carried his
sober
re
sarcasm
mer
iflourtbSerh,efiield
by asking how irresistible it
the injustice was ill coming at
would be, if the foreigners
grandeßected in this country,
pseudo-philanthropy and
sahlio,uladuddecalaftreerthanatt,
itwas
Exeier.hall hypocrisy to make objections to the cense-
Every.body know the foreigners came here by
their improved
.acquaintance with the social
qv
virtue
nu ce eos
f.
in
relations of man, and pursuit of the greatest happi-
ness
which was to result from establishing them. Every-
body knew, that whatever abstinence might be professed
at dot, they came for all our goods, and it was folly
should not have them. We might lament
over the ththeer` prolonged agony" of the process, but the
ttr°vueseraway was to keep our eyes fixed on the happiness
which was to be the result. It might be too, that the
invaders were Anglo-Saxons; and the rule is, that what
the Anglo-Saxon can, he takes. Thera should be no
halting half-way in a good joke.
The House, on rising, adjourned till Monday, 28tb
April.

I am, Sir, yours very sincerely,
AN OLD REFORMER.

London, A

Iril 16, 1851.

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