The Sun.
London, England, 1856-11-08 00:00:00

he staked his professional reputation as a surveyor upon
the truth of these assertions.

Tha ARCHITECT, in answer to questions from Mr.
Wright, said that the width of the proposed new stre(
70 feet, whilst the width of Hig4-street at its point
of junction with the projected street, at an angle of 125
deg., was but 60 feet. Now, the point which the com-
mittee had recommended was not the nearest practicable
point to London-bridge ; but by making the cu,ved line,
for which an additional 43,000/. would be required, the
new street would go into another 70 feet in width. The
street proposed by the committee might net unfairly be
entitled "a street for the blocking up of Wellington.
street, Southwark." It was not enough to make a wide
and good street; the approaches must likewise be good.
Would the board spoil their first street for a raving
simply of 10 per cent. on the total outlay ; and this sav-
ing, let it be remembered, was the sole reason urged in
supplrt of the plan recommended by the committee,
whilst weighty and numerous considerations should in-
duce them to adopt the curved line. He would therefore
move as an amendment that the plan recommended by
the committee be adopted, with the variation of the
curved junction with High-street (near York-street) from
Redcross-street.

Mr. SNOW seconded, and Mr. DREW supported, the
amendment.

Mr. Hows also spoke in favour of the amendment,
which he said did not vary the line of street advocated
by the committee, save in respect to the curve. This
curve, however, would afford such advantages to public
communication that he was quite prepared to vote the
43,006/. additional required for its construction accord-
ing to the estimate. Any advantage gained in bringing
the new street nigher to the railway termini at London-
bridge he thought should be measured almost by inches.
(Rear.)

Mr. -DALTON having said a few words in favour of the
amendment,

Mr. WILKINSON addressed the board briefly in sup-
port of the motion. He did not think the advantages to
tyz gained would compensate for the additional outlay.
Mr. D'IFFANGER was willing to vote this sum of money
for even a slight advantage in reference to the proximity
of the new street to the London-bridge railways. 34,0001.
was not worth considering in such a case.
Mr. Deputy HARRISON asked the Court to reject the
proposal of the committee as far as related to the straight
junction with High street (near Red Lion-street) from
Red Cross-street. If they adopted this, what would be
the consequence of having a 70 feet street opening into
a6O feet one almost at right angles ? Now, the curved
junction would afford such convenience for public traffic
that its advantages would very soon be fully appreciated
by the public. His only regret was that they were not
at present in a position to commence the new street at
the rail ways,zbut he was now convinced that there at
present existed difficulties of a rather formidable nature
in effecting this. He thought the new street, as sketeht d
out in the amendment, would be a considerable public
improvement.

Mr. COLLINSON strongly opposed the amendment. He
would ask the gentlemen who propc,ed It to look care-
fully at the plans and see what would the consequence
'if the board were to adopt their prop-)tition for a cur:ed
line of junction. To do so they would cut through the
best property,in High-street, and for what purpose ?
Why, to leave behind a greater nuisance in Southwark
both in point of appearance and convenience than they
found there. (Hear.) However, he- would not object
to the sacrifice of the property, if public interest was
to be served ; but the fact was that the curved line
would be highly disadvantageous to Southwark. If they
passed this proposition for a curve he confessed that he
knew nothing that could occur in after time that would
remedy the evil that would be thus occasioned.

Mr. DOULTON remarked that no great metropolitan
improvement could be carried on without causing incon-
venience in some quarter ; but nevertheless Southwark
would be considerably benefited by bringing the com-
mencement of the new street as nigh as possible to Lon-
don-bridge. As representing a borough constituency
(Lambeth) he gave his suppere to the amendment.
Mr. BIDGOOD strenuously resisted the amendment,
and expressed his concurrence in the line of street which
.bad been surveyed by Mr. Pennithorne, and to which
rtes Government were evidently favourable. They had
heard, too, that the committee had not been altogether
unanimous in recommending the plan proposed for
adoption by the motion.
Mr. TURNER having replied,
The amendment was put and carried by 27 to 8, and
thus became the original motion.
Another amendment,. proposed by Mr. Davis and
seconded by Mr. Thclgood, to the effect that the plan re-
commended by the Government surveyor, Mr. Penni-
thorne, be adopted, was rejected by 25 to 8.
Tee motion was then agreed to.
A protracted discussion ensued as to the manner in
which the plan thus agreed to would be communicated to
the Chief Commissioner of Works. The debate, which
was exceedingly animated, and somewhat personal and
disorderly, was occasioned by the manner iu which the
president and officers of the board were reported to have
been received and " lectured " by Sir Benjamin Hall
when presenting the plan for the main intercepting drain-
age some days back. Though the president did not make
any official communication to the board (for reasons
stated by him) relative to his reception by the Chief
Clminissioner, and evc.n expressed his readiness to lay
the present resolution of the board before Sir B. Hall,
the fact that the president was badly received was in-
dignantly commented upon by Mr. Wright, Mr. H. L.
Taylor, and several other hon. members, who neverthe-
less reserved to themselves the right of still freer com-
ment when the matter came in a regilar way before the
board. Other hon. members, as Messrs. Dlffangerand
Douiton, asserted that the Chief Commissioner was in-
capable of treating the president with any discourtesy,
and refused to argue the affair further until the president
made his report, which, for reasons which the board ap-
preciated, he was not inclined to do at present, unless the
board unequivocally intimated its desire to that effect.
Ev mutually, a resolution passed to the effect that the pre-
sident, clerk, engineer, and two other members should
lay the plan for toe new street before Sir B. Hall. Mr.
H. L. Taylor then moved that Meesre. D'lffanger and
Nicholay (the representatives for Marylebone) be the two
members accompanying the president. This proposition
was received with laughter and cries of "No, no." How-
ever, Mr. Taylor persisted in his motion, and Mr.
Nicholay declared he was ready to go, but suggested the
undesirability of appointing the two representatives for
Maryhboce to wait upon the member for that constitu-
ency, and Mr. D'lffanger said that -e considered such a
motion rattier in the light of an instet than as a compli-
ment !o himself and Mr. Nicholay.
An extremely confused conversation resulted, end some
of the members (as Mr. Wilkinson) declared that the
whole proceedings of the last twenty minutes tended to
make the board appsar highly ridiculous iii the eyes of
the public, and must be stopped. Several gentlemen
were then named, but declined the post, and ultimately
a motion was carried, empowering the president to name
the two members who were to accompany him. Mr.
Wright (who had at first refused to go) and Mr. Harris
were then nominated by the president, and the proceed-
ings of the day were brought to a close at five o'clock. •

Subjoined is the e3timata for the new street, as
adopted by the board :
" EAimato of the cost of forming a new street, from Stam-
ford-street, Bkckfriars • road, to Red Cross-street,
Borough, according to plan B B.
" Outlay.
Purchases of property, goodwill; &c 2311,989
10 per cent. for contingencies 31,198
2,750 feet of sewer, paving, Stu 6,875
--£350,462
" Return.
_ _

, _....„ ~....
By property resold
By sale of ground rents, 4,263 feet 127,890
By sale of old materials 6,210

-- 152'3947

Net cost £197,115
" Eitimato of the cost of forming curved junction with
High-street (near York-street) from Red Cron-street.

" Outlay.
Purchase) of property, goodwills,
10 per cent. for contingencies 15,214
800 feet of sewer, paving, &c 2,000
--£169,362
_ _

" Return.

By property resold . £5,263
By sale of ground rents, 1,250 feet 37,500
By sale of old materials 3,013

45,800

2123,1%6
197,115

By Government Grant..

320,6'1
90,000

Total net cost of plan B B with curved junction £230,671
" FREDK. DIARRABLE, Superintending Architect."