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EVENING, JULY 18, 1851.

rotod ask, woeld the Christian religion be affasted by
this measure? Did any men think, if thov passed it,.
there would be-fewer Christians in the coil:soy than.
before?—(Bear, hear.) Did any man think that the
Christians who &meted Baron Rothschild anu Mr. Salo-
mons had any greater sympathy with those of the
Jewish persuasion than any other body of Casisjaans?
Ile therefore maintained that the measure before them
was incapable of inflicting injury on tho Christian re-
ligion, but he did think they were inflicting injury on
the Christian religion by year after year reiusihg their
assent to the measure.—(Hear, hear.) Such being his
opinions, he should give his vote in favour of the second
reading of the Bill.—(Hear, bear.)
Lord AB-INGER and the Bishop of .Oxford rose to-
gether. The latter having resumed his seat, the Noble
Lord proceeded to address the House. He said it ap-
peared to him that the Jewish nation had not a right to
ask to be upon an equality in the eye of the law. He
held that every nation had a duty to perform to itself,
aed that duty was to deny political power to those who
&flared so widely froth the people of this country as the
Je .:id, and whose feelings were altogether so dill-rent.
lie had no objection psrsonally to sit by
.a.jew. int. if
they once alhaiLted rn,:haners of t,h,i; body
.to eats in the
Legislature, the iz.filaice and eharao .-r of their Lord-
soiha would sustain a severe blow.—(Hear, hear.)
The E irl of GALLOWAY sail it. was an adnait'ed
soripht-al doctrine boat without faith they could not
please God. Now the Jews not only had nut that faith,
but being wholly ueeonverted to Chrtitis,tiity, they could
not have it. Therefore, is the adinieistration oft he af-
fairs of the nation, they would rsjeet the truth, end fur
that reason he luoke i upon them as utterly doqualide]
from acting as legislators.
[When the Earl of Galloway commeneed his laisf ob-
servations, the Bishop of Oxford, who evidently was most
anxious to take part in the debate, left the house. The
Right Rev. Prelate remained away but a minute or two,
but when he returned he found, to his great astonish-
macat, that not only had the Earl of Galloway concluded,
but that the Lord Chancellor was in the act of winding
up the debate by a reply. This aircumstanee caused some
merriment among their Lordships.]
The LORD CIiAIgCELLOR would not detain their
Lordships many minutes with his observations in reply.
Ile admitted that there was a difference between the
making laws and their administration. But the value of
their laws mainly depended on the manner in which
they were administered, and Jews were now a party to
that administration. If they continued to reject this
Bill, and to oppose that which must be taken to be the
sense of the country, they would not increase the love
and respect now felt in their Lordships' House.—(Hear,
hear.) They might be persuaded to reject the Bill, but
let them not persuade themselves that it would not be
presented to them again and again until it was ultimately
carried. The Noble. and Learned Lord suddenly re-
sumed his seat, so suddenly, indeed, that the Bishop of
Oxford failed to observe his Lordship, and again lost the
opportunity of addressing the House.
Contents (for the motion)
Proxies
Non-contents B2
Proxies

Majority against the Bill
Their Lordships then adjourned.

THE LAW OF MORTMAIN.
Yesterday the Committee of the House of Commons,
appointed to inquire into the Laws of Mortmain, was
excessively crowded during the day, from the fact of its
being known that his eminence Cardinal Wiseman had been
summoned to give evidence before the Committee. There
was a great crowd of Members of Parliament, clergymen
of the Church of England, Catholic priests, and no small
number of ladies. The Committee consists of eighteen
Members, of whom Mr. Headlam is the chairman. The
other Members are the Attorney-General, Lord John
Manners, Sir R. H. Inglis, Mr. Drummond, Mr. Anstey,
Mr. Hutt Mr. Fitzpatrick, Mr. Adair, Mr. Roundell
Palmer, Mr. Heald, Lord H. Vane, Mr. Hardcastle, Mr.
Monsell, Mr. Napier, Mr. Keogh. The Earl of Arundel
and Surrey had also been cast for the Committee.
The CHAIRMAN addressing the Cardinal (who, to the
disappointment of the public on the occasion, sate with
his back to them throughout the examination) said, the
Committee have referred to yo¢ as the best authority,
probably, on the subject of Catholic matters in this
country, wishing to know your opinion on the law of
Mortmain as it affects property devised to Catholic com-
munities. Do you consider that the Catholics of this
country look upon these laws and the administration of
justice by the tribunals of this country with distrust?
Cardinal Wiseman—l do not.

The CHAIRMAN—Do you know of anything upon
which the Catholics of this country object to our pre-
sent laws of Mortmain? Cardinal Wiseman—No, ex-
cept it be property devised for what are called supersti-
tious uses and masses for the dead, which m'mbers of
what is called the Established Church may look upon as
superstitious, but which Catholics do not so consider.
The CHAIRMAN—Have Catholics any objection to the
administration of the same laws in reference to their
charitable trusts as are administered in a Protestant
community?—The Cardinal knew of no objection; and
then went on to say that in the case of money devised
for the purpose of saying masses, the money, unless it
were a very small sum, did not go to the priest in the
way of a small sum, as a personal gift. in which case it
was lett with the priests. The larger sums were invested
in the name of trusteed in the usual way. had known
such a sum as 50/. to bo invested, and the uses to which
such moneys were applied were for the entilwinmt or
foundation of a new church, or to the establishment of

some ministry in connexion with it. In the case of a
person entering a convent, a previous contract was en-
tcred into with reference to their property; sornetim,s
part of the property was given to the convent, RLd part
to the relations. In the ca: e of persons to whom inoney
was bequeathed while they were inmates of the convent,
it was not in this country always considered that it be-
came the property of the convent, but it was, generally
spetdting, at the disposal of the party fien,ell to give to
relations, and ho had known cases in which 1146 had
bean done.
Trio CHAIRMAN remarked that a case hall ocurred

in Belgium where the superioress of the convet.t had
tried the question of the right of the convent to pro-
perty bequeathed to inmates of the convent; to which
the Cardinal replied that that was i❑ Belgium, but in this
country the persons had a legal right to dispo,e of any
property left them.
The CHAIRMAN asked whether considerable dissatis-

Liction had not prevailed among the Catholics a few
years ago in reference to the law affecting trusts of pro-
perty for charitable purposes?—The Cardinal replied
that some Bills had been introduced, one under the
auspices of Sir J. Romilly, but it was a question whether
it was not an unfriendly Bill, and he opposed it, or did
not coincide with it. He (the Cardinal) had not
pledged himself actually to any Bills introduced; but
he thought a different feeling now prevailed, and that the
Catholics cGntinued as they were. He did no: think
that the Catholics wore favourable to any legislative in-
terference in matters of this description, as they had had
some lessons from late events, and lookei on legislation
of that kind with distrust.

In answer to further questions as to the power o,
the propaganda affecting seiritual and temporal ques-
tions submitted to their jurisdiction from this country,
and as to the power of the Catholic archbishops upon
marriage matters, the Cardinal said he had already ex-
plained his views on these matters to previous Cona•
mittees of the House of Commons when he had given
every information in his power, but at the present
moment he was under entirely different circumstances.
Au Act, a declaratory Act, was pending before the
Legislature of this country, but which was to be re-
trospective in its operations, which rendered him liable
to certain penalties, or to the information of any toms
mon informer, in case of his acknowledging any official
communication with the see of Rome. On questions,
therefore, relating to subjects which would require his
admission of communications with the see of Rome, he
must respectfully decline to gizo answer.
The CHAIRMAN observed, that whatever was said
they would have the protection of the I-louse of Com-
mons. The Cardinal replied, that that did not alter his
opinion. He had known cases where the protection of
the House of Commons did not avail. Was not aware
that any portion of funds bequeathed by the Catholic
community for charitable purposes were not administered
strictly within the intention of the donor, and it was not
within his own knowledge as regarded any property
over which he (the Cardinal) had control. Property, in
some instances, might be applied not improperly, accord-
ing to the spirit rather than to the letter of the bequest
—a fund might be applied to a purpose analogous to that
for which it was intended. If a priest of the Catholic
Church received a legacy it was his own property, and
if the case was in England he treated it just as he
pleased. If he (the Cardinal) had a large sum of money
given him he should apply it to his own purposes, and
not altogether or specifically to ecclesiastical purposes.
In the case of gifts of this kind to priests or prelates of
the Catholic Church, the disposal would be dictated by
their own conscience, and according to the tics operating
on them. If he (the Cardinal) had a legacy left him of
1,000/., without any particular conditions attached, he
should not consider it was necessary to apply it to any
particular purpose. With respect to secret trusts, and the
secret disposition of property, was of opinion measures
might be taken to secure their application to ecclesiasti-
cal purposes, and ho would much rather have it so. Al-
ways individually, in matters concerning the bequeathal
or disposition of property acted under legal advice,
and according to his sense of duty. As regarded the
main question before the Committee, and their re-
lation to : the Catholic community, was of opinion
that a quest on might arise as to whether the laws of
'
Mortmain, as opposed to any other laws, were just.
Judging from his own conviction of the policy of the
Mortmsin laws, and that they were not in accordance
with other laws, did not think it would be iudispensable
to insert clauses in any measure rendering publicity in
all matters of charitable bequest necessary. Thought
that any legisla:ion that affected the charitable trust of
any other body should give equal security and protection
to the Catholic body, and was not prepared to say that
there should be any clauses exempting Cattatkcs. The
property of Roman Catholics in England generally was
in land rather than money.
The above is the substance of the Cardinsi',, examint-
ti,:o. many parts cl which, owing to the crowd, and from
his back being turned, it was difficult to catch, At
three o'clock his Eminence, bowing to the Committee,
who acknowledged it, left the committee-room with the
Rev. Mr. Serie, his secretary, and was foliewed along
the lengthy corridor by the crowd, until he reached his
carriage in Palace-yard, and drove off rapidly,

DEATH OF THE EARL OF CHARLEVILLE.-.-It is
with great regret we have to announce the death of the
Earl of Charleville, which sad event took place suddenly on
Monday last in the neighbourhood of London. By his de-
cease,
a vacancy occurs in the representative Peerage of Ire-
land. His Lordship is succeeded in his title and estates by
his eldest son, Viscount Tallamore, now Earl of Charleville.
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THE CRYSTAL PALACE

•
FIRST AND SECOND EDITIONS OF THE
OFFICIAL CATALOGUE.

The remarks which have been indulged in by some
of our contemporaries, with respect to the Official
Catalogue of the Great Exhibition, together with a
re-perusal of the " Second corrected and Improved
Edition," induce us to make a few observations upon
the work and its predecessors. The world is gene-
rally pretty critical upon catalogues, and every one
feels quite competent to judge of what no one can
produce to the satisfaction of any, human being, him-
self not excepted.
The first edition of the catalogue was produced on,
the morning of the opening of the Exhibition, and was
hailed as one of the wonders of that eventful day.
It was soon discovered that it contained a consider-
able number of errors, and it was as mercilessly criti-
cised as it had Wore been liberally praised. how
many of those who were most forward to complain
knew anything of the difliailtive that had been over-
come, as comp,red with those which had defivd the
compilers, and remained, in their effects, stubbjrn
witnesses of their own in(?ornitable character? We
will not attempt to answer our own questinn, but
briefly state a few of the pevulizr circumstances which
affected the work. In the first place, it was at press
before the goods .% ere in their placvs—nav, before many
of them had arrived. Why such haste,- a reader may
urge ; would it not have been preferable to wait a
month rather than produce an imperfect work ? To
this we reply, in the first place, that if the im-
perfect work had not been produced, the improved
edition would never have seen the light; and, in the
second place, had the Exhibition been opened and
the catalogue not ready, the outcry would Lave been
loud and continuous against all concerned in the ma_
nagement. The first edition was a necessity, and
' must be regarded as produced under pressure. We
live in a railroad age, everything is expected to be
great, rapid, and cheap. We grumble every day that
London is so large that it wears us out in body
ruins us in cab-hire, yet who is there that writes
" London" in his address that does not boast and' feel
proud of its miles and millions. We complain loudly
enough when we are obliged to scamper across the
mud to save our lives or our clothes, from a'cab steal-
ing over M'Adam at the rate of twelve miles an hour ;
yet we know that society does and will go at that
pace, all the gouty old gentlemen, " unprotected fe-
males," and helpless children in the " Great Metro-
polis" notwithstanding. We cry out every day of
our lives that things are too cheap to be good ; and
yet_ it is perfectly well known that, except the most
extraordinary talent or the most admirably managed
puffing be employed, nothing will sell that costs more
than a shilling. In accordance with these undeniable
facts, the catalogue of the largest and most various
collection that was ever brought together since the
world began was brought out with unheard of cele-
rity—so large almost to require a page to carry it,
and at about the price per pound that we give for our
butter.

Of course, every one knows how to make a cata-
logue. The thing is simple enough ; the objects are
carefully examined, and their relative position accu-
rately ascertained ; the descriptions are then put
down in precisely the same order in the manuscript,
which is sent to press, carefully set up, and carefully
revised, and afterwards carefully put together by the
binder, and then issued to the world, or rather to the
trade, without a single error, as we know catalogues
always are, or should be, if they did but follow the
simple rule of their nature. There were a few points,
however, in the compilation of the Exhibition cata-
logue that did not exactly coincide with this sim-
plicity. In the first place, there were about sixteen
thousand exhibitors, who dated from all parts of the
world, and had determined to send some contribution
to the exhibition ; to this small body of contributors
the compilers had to look for their materials, the
officers of the executive committee supplied the
numbers to be attached to these interesting para-
graphs, and we believe that the greatest pains were
taken by all concerned to make the arrangement
systematic and convenient : the numbers were to run
from left to right, like books upon a shelf, so that
the visitor would have nothing to do but to walk in
the prescribed course and find number two next to
number one, number three next to number two, and
so on from Alpha to Omega. We doubt not it looked
most complete upon paper, and would have been
highly satisfactory but for a few trifling and unfore-
seen accidents, which we shall point out.
Some few hundred of the exhibitors sent in no de-
scriptions at all, either in groundless apprehension of
being charged for their insertion, or in obedience to
the laws of procrastination and forgetfulness. Others
sent descriptions, but were not equally punctual with
regard to the goods themselves. The former were
astonished, when the catalogue appeared, that the
officials bad not supplied above four-fifths of their
omissions, and the public were equally surprised that
one steam-engine, a brass saucepan, an aerial machine
to carry forty people, a sample of treacle st-Ap,
newly-invented patent Inciter match-box, and a g!ass
walking-stick, were to be found, like the carpenter's
nails in ".Toe Miller" "in the bill," and no-
where else. Again, when the goods arrived,
they most obstinately refused to fit the
places assigned to them on the plan. A
" specimen of granite" arrived in state, with
a train of horses nearly as long as the Crystal Palsze
itself. One " specimen of copper ore," took ten men
to get it out of its carriage, while another came in the

waiitcost pocket (,f a celebrated professor ; some
specimens of crystalised salts were mistaken, on their
arrival, for models, on a large scale, of the great
Derbyshire caves ' • and a sample of hops certainly
came in a " pocket," but it weighed 500110., and
could be further compressed. Six feet four could not
be placed next in the rank to four feet six, so number
one was put on the floor and number two at the top of
the wall, just as pictures are arranged in every ex-
hibition in the United Kingdom, and, doubtless,
everywhere else ; but human work, which passes
well enough under ordinary circumstances, looks ter-
ribly rough sod clumsy when brought under the
microscope ; and this fact never was more strongly
illustrated than in the case in question—fifty irregu-
larities, which involve a walk of half a quarter of a
mile each, take off the edge of a man's good temper,
eat considerably into the longest day, and call down
upon the unfortunate catalogue-maker epithets nei-
ther laudatory nor complimentary.
No wonder then that the first, and even the second
issue of the catalogue was imperfect, and that com-
plaints were not, like angel-visits, few and far be-
tween. The compilers set to work to remedy the
evil, and the second issue was a decided improve-
ment on the first ; hut down to the time of the issue
of this latter edition, some parts of the collection
were still unarranged, and the pressure upon those
who did the work of the Exhibition was still so en-
grossing, that it was almost impossible to attain to
anything like a satisfactory result. During the last
few weeks, however, matters have assumed a settled
aspect, and the effect of this is evident in this new
and really corrected edition, which has been revised
with very great care. It also contains a large amount
of new matter, the whole of Turkey and India being
additional, besides numerous items in the French,
American, and other departments.
The table of contents has been entirely remodelled
and much extended, and will be found to furnish a
complete guide to the various parts of the Exhibition,
as well as a key to the catalogue. I say confidently,
that if visitors will look through the contents, and
will take the trouble to read the introductory re-
marks with which Mr. Yapp has prefaced the work,
they will find the plan of the catalogue simple, and
its execution satisfactory ; but if they will look for
No. 10 of Class 20 in Class 10, and laboriously
persist that the Russian vases are not in the cata-
logue, because they cannot find them, either in
Tunis, America, or Florence, they will themselves
be great losers in point of information ; and will
commit a great injustice on the contractors and all
engaged in the production of the catalogue, if they
condemn before they have taken the trouble to make
an examination, which will cost them at the utmost
ten minutes time, and amply repay them for its dis-
bursement.

THB EXHIBITION IN HYDE-PARK:A meeting of
the Manchester local committee was held on Thursday af-
ternoon to petition the Legislature to continue the Crystal
Palace, in Hyde-park. The meeting was not very nume-
rously attended. Mr. John Potter, the Mayor of Manchester,
presided. A petition, drawn up for the purpose, was agreed
to, and will be forwarded to both Houses of the Legislature
immediately.

[ ADVERTISEMENT]—Taa GREAT EXHIBITION.--
A valuable. newly-invented, very small powerful waistcoat
pocket glass, only the size of a walnut, to discern minute ob-
jects at a distance of from four to five miles, which is found to
be invaluable at the Exhibition, and to Sportsmen, Gentlemen,
and Gamekeepers. To be had at 39, Albemarle-street,
Piccadilly, opposite the York-hotel. Opera and Race-course
glasses with wonderful powers—a small object can be clearli
seen from ten to twelve miles distant. Telescopes— "In,
most important invention in Telescopes. possessing such e lees,
ordinary powers, that some, 3i, inches, with an extra eysenPd
the
will show distinctly, Jupiter's Moons, Saturn's Bing' and
are of
i Double Stars. They supersede every other kind, and sea
lall sizes, for the waistcoat pocket shooting, military,optians have .
I purposes. Messrs. S. and B. ,SoLosrpe7_, immeAiately i
i invented invaluable preserving Spectacle L I'
and original 1
I
they are placed before imperfect vision, ev.ery object appears I
I clear and distinct, the most aged defective sight becomes bright 1
I and brilliant, is brought to its youthfPl' natural
ibrator, and all kinds of acoustic
state. The invisible Organic d fness 39 A
, instruments for relief of extreme
_!gi _ • •- , ..lbsynarl,_ I
I street, Piccadilly, opposite the York Hotel.
1 --- Holloway's Oi t '
1 rADvßETlesmossiT. j
a Bad It it en . sod
I Pills.—Extraordinary !
curorespected Foot.—Mr, Henry Ken_
! newell, son of the late much
_surveyor of the South.
District of St. Pancras, London,
ampton stated in a letter to
his mother from
Barra Barra, Port Adelaide. that in his jow-
l Adelaide, ney to those mines trom
he was compelled to walk
for want of a conveyance, and, in doing so, he grazed, and
afterwards poisoned his foot, which became so bad that he was
under a surgeon's care for more than two months
without
ob-
taining an relief; he was then induced to try Holloway's Oint-
ment and Pills, which, in three weeks, completely cured his
foot, and he was enabled to commence work without incon-
venience.—Sold by all druggists,and at Professo
Establishment, 244, Strand,London. r Holloway's