The Sun.
London, England, 1802-06-10 00:00:00

NAVY.

The House then resolved itself into a Committee
-
of Supply, to 'whichthe Army and'Ordna.ne
mates, and the Accounts of the Unfunded Debt,
,anoi
the charge of the Yeomtinry Corps in Ireland, were
referred.

Mr. En dr moved for a Vote of 70,000 Men for
the Sea Service, for seven lunar months, commenc-
ing the i Bth Mune 1802, including 14,000 Marines.
Mr. T E I? AV EY wished for iplormation as to the
extent of the Permanent Peace Establishment.

Thee CH ANC ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
the. Committee must be aware that no opinion
could be inferred from the present Vote, as to the
PerManent Peace Establishment. So large a pro-
portion of the Navy Was 'at present 'employed on
Foreign, 'Service,' that it was impossible to bring
forward. any, Peace Establishment ; but, if he had
it now in his power to propose a. Permanent Peace
Establishment, he thought that 30,000 would be
all that would be necessary for the Sea Service:
He begged the Committee, however, to understand,
that he 'did not 'pledge himself upon this subjea,
but such was his opinion of the present:state of
things, that .he thought 30,0p0 men would be
enough, although
,he Would not pledge himself to
aq specific number : he looked forward with con-
fidence to that limited -iv.unber in. the ensuing
year.

Mr, TIERNEY said he supposed that was to
be considered as the lowest number?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER tie.:
plied, the prOb'able nurriber.
The Motion was then agreed to.
The'Committee. then proceeded to vote,
For Wages for the said 70,000 men for the
same period, at 375. per man per month
*for Vi6tuals for the said men tor the sarne

906,500 0 0

..period, at,3Bs. perman per month.
-For wearanci tear of the Ships in which the
said men are .employed, at 31. per man per
month - -

931,000 b 0

1,470,060 0 0

F.Srdrdoaiide for the,Sea Service, at Ss. per
man per intintli .

122,500 o o

ARMY.

The SECIZET4RY at WAR then rose and said
he should endeavoui to state the Army Services for
the.femainder of the year, as shortly as possible,
and the difference between the Proposed Establish 4
menr and the War Establishment, as voted from the
zsth of December to the 24th of March the com-
pikriitive number of men . and expence would stand
:

Men Expellee
•
Guards, Garrisons, and Plantations. - £. • s d.
War Establishment ...: 161,364 5,432,000 o o
Proposed Establishment ' 95,793, 3, 04,000 •41,i, 0

Dilrerence .
General and,Staff Officers.
War Establishment
Proposed Establishment

65,57 i 1 2,328/000` 0

40,700 0 0

50,300 0 0

' Difference -
Militia and Fencible Infantry.
War EStablishinent - 103425 2,941,800 o o
The whole E xpence under this head would he saved • for
the remainder of the year.
-
Offices - - iC117,350.

90,400 * 0

With respeCi to the War-Office, the expence was,
he said, still very considerable,. but the number of
persons employed was no mare than was absolutely
necessary. There, was a great arrear of business in '
that Office, but he hoped the time would soon come
when a reduction in the expence. of.that Office,might
take place.
. .
_ _

War Establishment.
Allowance to Inn-keepers _ ,C 57,000
Troposed Establishment 23z,00n

DiffeienCe

3957000

He was, he: said, led to believe, that a great re-
Andion of this -Expencc would take place in another
year, when the Troops became regularly
,statinneci
and distributed in Barracks. For the: piesent it
was proposed to
.continue the rate of allowance the
same as' is was in the .preceding. year, in considera.
Lion of the Inn keepers having suffered considerably
during the' last year from the high price of every
article of subsistence.

, . .
War, Establishapent—,Hall k. 225,000
'Proposed Establishment - 403,000

Excess


178,000

The • number of Officers thrown upon Half-pay
must, he oh/served, necessarily be increased, in con-
secluence of the number of Regiments reduced.

'War Esiablislinient—Volunteer Corps, taking the
proportion.of the'last five months 1,154,0,,0.
• Great part.of this Sum would now be saved, as it
was inten,::.-d to retain no Corps who -received pay,
and to reduce the allowance to others.. .

War Establishment—Barracks -
Proposed Establishment

- 940,000
740,000

Llifferenc'e -

20°,000

The Sum proposed for the remainder of the year
for this service was, he observed, considerable ;_ but
the Committee would perceive the important ad_
vantages which resulted to the Army frorn this.
EstablishMent.

He shouldnow, he said, detail briefly the more
minute particulars of die intended Reduetion. It
was proposed to 'reduce
6 Regiments of DragoOns -
17 Additional Battalions ()fold Re-
giments 'of Foot, and 4 young
Regiments to be disbanded - 20,862 Men £. 580,413
Several of these, however, he observed, could not
be • expeded to be,disbanded.immediately. Until
the Troops now on Foreign Service returned from
abroad, it would be necessary to preserve!Jur Gar.
risons here ; several of the Regiments proposed .to
be. disbanded must therefore be kept on foot for
Some time longer. It was also intended to reduce
the Royal Garrison Battalion and.six West India
Regiments. The Invalids it was intended to re-
duce altogether, it being thought better to keep up
a regular Infantry, than a corps of Invalids, although
that Body must certainly be considered as highly
respectable and useful.
Number- of Invalids - - 7806 Men .197,,305
Foot Guards, a Reduaion of - 5475 Men .156,335

5,093 Men . 262,334

He ,understood that the Island of Jamaica would
contribute to the payment of the Troops stationed
there for ito defence, which would be a considerable
saving to this Country. He did not see any reason