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would be too soon to call upon the House for, any decision
the business of the Knaresborough '1" ,*OO4,
moved that the-Order for taking the KetoottintbeonsiderktiOdC'
.thisdav should tieditelnirgecltand fixed for triursday: 'ite.g4ste •
notice that on that day he would move that the several•per-
sonti.who had been accused of riotous priidices, with s view
to prevent the Election of a Member of Parliament for Knares-
borough, should be prosecuted by the Attorney-Geueral: •
Mr. S. Bourtos wished to know if Counsel had been hearti
before the Committee, and whether the Committee Ind coitus'.
to any decision ? ,
Lord WM. Russitt said, that they had aded exactly as a
Grand fury.
The Strtmcza said,there W 36 nothing irregular in the Mode
of proceeding proposed by the Noble Lord.
The Order was accordingly postponed till Thursday.
Sir JOHN ANDAJCSON brought up a'Bill to regulate the
Baking and Assize of. Bread.
Mr. FRANCiS moved, that the Correspondence between
our Indian Government and the Nlegul of Delhi should be
.printed for the use of the House.—Ordered. .
Mr. BAG w std. gave notice, that on'Thursday he would
move for leavelo bring in a Bill to regulate the Elections for
Members.of. Parliament in Ireland.

1. Z. v'a Y Postponed tilt Tuesday_ next his Motion re.
lative to Mr. Fordyce.

MUTINY BILL. '
On the'Motion that the. Mutiny Bill should bo
read a third time,

•Sir Rosetta BurroN complained of Jim hard.
ships under which the Proprietors of Canals labour-
ed, in being obliged to carry Soldiers and their
Biggar along tbe Canals.
The SECRETARY at WAR oserved, that they
had been freed from the buithen of carrying stores,
and thettfore he thought, that unless in cases where
it might be of serious injury, to their trade, they
might very well agree to carry chi. Soldier's anti
• Baggage. In cases where it was of material injury
tit) them, he, for pee, would be very so
give them. compensation.
The'Bill was then read a third time.
The SlcitSTAItY at WAR brought up a Clause to
be added to it, which wens to give the power' to
Reg imen:a 1 Courts Martial to take evidence on
oath, and to have their own Members sworn.

"The Clause being read a lost Cline, and the form
of the oath stated,.
General FITZPATRICK obsirved, that if the
Clau;e in 'question had had the smallest 'tendency
to telax military discipline, he would be the last
m toto propose it ; hot he was sure, on the con-
!pry, that it would only . give more inlemoity,
weight, and authority, to the Courts Martial, and
promote the ends of discipline. The Mutiny laws
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were severC; Dot in proportion as they were severe.

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it was necessary that they should be Wein* -anti
impartially administeyed. When all should be cons
vinced that they should have it fair trial, 'the laws
would be more cheerfully obeyed., This principle
:was sustrungty felt in the Austrian, and,he believed,
in the Swi:.s servi;•e, that even Non.c:onmissioned
Officers and private Soldiers were admitted to 'sit on
the Courts Martial. He defended this point also on.
the ground that Regimental Courts Martial bad de.'
. v wed, in bottle measure, from their original ptiwets, •
and tried higher crimes under different names, which
were propfrly cognizable only by General Courts
anti also upon the protetlion which the
Soldiers would derive from having Suttlers and
others, who might bring vexatious aceusatiO'ns,
agninst them, examined on oath. There was an.
other point which he was sorry he could' not carry,
which' was, 'that none should preside at any Court
Martial who was nor 2I years,of age. 'He thought
that no one ought to be a Captain in the ..Army
fore that age.
Sir y,nri S PULTE2VEr opposed the Clause,
on the grounds' that the long established prsttfee in
the Army ought not be altered without the matureet.
deliberation.
The Sh:CRET44I,I' at WAR defended the Clause
on the,grounds that an innovation had been made
by the Courts Martial taking cogni-
zance of higher crimes under different names. It
was time, therefore, that the evidence against the
Soldier should he examined with: the solemnity of
an oath, that the ponialuncot ,for perjury might fol.
low doss upon falsobtoti. lie had consulted several,
General Ofiicers, who .were, lor, the mu9t, part,
against the Clauie, but they had iillidged: nu suf.
frzient -reasons,' He could not agree to have none
as President of a Cour't Martial who was not 21
years of age, on 'account of the inconvenience which
it would produce.

Lord TEMPLE opposed the Clause, on the ground
th,ll,,as thr Regimental Courts Martial wertt not
Courts ofßecorda, the punialtment for perjury could
oat follawit the wittiesseg EN ore falsrly,
The SECI%).IIT4RY at 474'R Oltservett, that if
there wai•any-dahibt 'un that point, an Amendment
ought 10,1)e..,enade, • •

Mr. STU,RGES BOURNE said, that they might
certainly be intlttAttl for INrjury.
Sir Ll' RE coot E &Eluded the Clause, because
it gave greater solemnity to Cotirts Martial. The
bl-1;.:& was the discovery of truth, and how could
truth be mare efreaually discovered than by putting,
the witneasea on oath ?

111 r.; FULLER was of opinion that' the Frei"dent
should be of age, but Minded the Clause..
Gen. LOFTUS' spike. in hiltuur .of the efavie.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
agr?•ed in the propriety of the Clause, though he
regretted that he differed in ()Onion from so many
able Officers. He could not conceive how the oath
co►uid be prejudicial. The discretion of the Qffieer
was the same, and the evidence, would be the same.
—He agreed, that if the pratlice4 of the CoUrts of
Law, with reaped to evidence, was tube followed,
it might he dangerous. He agreed to the Clause,
because it was just in itself, and not because there
was any complaint.;
Lord DE BLAQUIERE wished that the powers
of Regimental Courts Martial should be mote li.

Sir tr ATKIN WILLIAMS WYNNE was of
opinion that none should be ?resident of a Court
Martial who was not two years in the !,crvice, or
who was not at years of age.
Col. FRANXL-AND thought that the Chute
would have a had tendency, lay rendering the in.
vestigatii,n of smaller faults 41111011 r iMp11)111ble.
Col. STEWART thought r the' Courts Martial'
ought to-he fuller, and then the Oath, might he of
ad vantage.
General STE WieRT rose merely to state, that he
did not wish to take. credit for the Speech which his

;Hen: Friend (Cul. STEWART) Made op a termer
occasion, which many supposed to
.be his, ,on 4C.
count of the similarity of the name, He could not
agree to have the Courts fuller, on account -of, the