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London, England, 1851-06-20 00:00:00

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SUN OFFICE, Seven o Clock.

THE LONDON GAZETTE
(THIS EVENING.)

FOREIGN-OFFICE, JUNE 19, 1851.
The Qaeen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Jona-
than Binns Were as Consul at Port Philip for his Ma-
jesty the King of Sweden and Norway.
WAR OFFICE, JUNE 20.
21st Regiment of Foot—Lieutenant Edward Thomas
King, from the 87th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Shad-
well, who exchanges, June 20.
13d Foot—Ensign the Honourable Lewis Watson
Mlles, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Colvile, who
retires, June 20.
57th Fuot—Lieutenant Charles William St. Clair, to
be Adjutant, vice Armstrong, who resigns the Adjutancy
only, June 20.
62d Foot—Ensign Joseph Sanderson, to be Adjutant,
vice Lambert, promoted; Gentleman Cadet James
William Tibbit from the Royal Military College, to be
Ensign, vice Sanderson, appointed Adjutant, June 20.
70th Foot—Captain Arthur George Shawe, from
half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice Paschal, pro-
moted to an Unattached Majority, June 20.
731 Foot—Lieutenant Frederick Reeve to be Adju-
tant, vice Fletcher, killed in action; Ensign Hugh
Macketzio to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice
Reeve, appointed Adjutant; Gentleman Cadet Richard
James Hereford, from the Royal Military College, to be
Ensign, vice Mackenzie, June 20.
81st Foot—Lieutenant Charles Ellison Goodwin, to
be Captain, by purchase, vice Little, who retires; En-
sign George Betts, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice
Goodwin; Lieutenant Alfred Wright, to be Adjutant,
vice Woods, who resigns the Adjutancy only, June 20.
87th Foot—Lieutenant Joseph Fitz Thomas Shadwe ,
from the 21st Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice King, wholl
exchanges, June 20.
91st 'Foot—Lieutenant William Frederick Norman,
from the 97th Foot. to be Lieutenant, vice Annesley,
who exchanges June 20. Annesley,
from Foot—Lieutenant William Richard
from the 91st Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Norman, who
exchanges, June 20.
3d West India Regiment— E si n and Adjutant
Claudius Kerr to have the rank otifilnige Lieutenant, eennarnyt
pJruenned
esr..
St. Helena Regiment—Lieut.
who resigns th Ad'
eu-
ville to be Adjutant, vice Hayes,
tancy only, June 5.
Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Mid-Lothian.
Cav I
Royal Mid-Lothian YomaVnriYoe CoachrYrane,j
mmreesBigFnuedr,
man,e
Gent., to be Cornet,
June 10.
The Christian nanse,s, of Cornet Hope Vere, appointed
16th April, 1851, are William Edward."
WHITEHALL, JUNE 18.
The Lord Chancellor has appointed Robert Coster
Dryland, of Speenhamlatid, in the county of Berks,
Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court
of Chancery.BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED.
Catherine Lewes, innkeeper, Chippenham, Wiltshire.
BANKRUPTS.
John Bartlett, wiee merchant, Upper Thames-street,
to surrender June 26 and Aug. 7, at eleven, at the Court
of Bankruptcy. Bell, efficial assignee, Coleman-street-
buildings; Keigiatley, Cunliffe, and Beaumont, Celan-
cery-laee.
John Hunt, draper, Edgeware-road, July 3, at half-
past eleven, and July 31, at one, at the Court of Bank-
ruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Bosinghall-street;
Hard eick, Davidson, and Bradbury, Besinghall-street;
Aaheret and Son. Otd Jewry.
John Peseod Whitmore, draper, Hackney, June 28,
and Aug. 2, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Nicholson, official assignee, BAsinghall-street; Mardon
and Pritcoard, Newga,P-street.
John Whitfield and George James Whitfield, cheese-
mongers, Lamb's Conduit-street, July 4, at one, and
Au e. 1, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham,
offici'aL asaignee; Richardeun and Sadler, Golden-square.
Thomas Fitch, commission agent, Chester-place, Ken-
nington, July 1, at halt'-pant two, and August 5, at
eleven, at the Court o Bankruptcy. Ed eards, official
aesignee, Sarnbrook-c4,urr, basingball-street; Madox
and Wyatt, Clement's-lane, Loin tn. rd-street .
Th,m,3 Milts, builder, Peinssviek, Gloucestershire,
July 4, and August 4, ut twelve, at the Bristol District
urt. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; !Patrick, Wor-
cester; Short and Strickland, Bristol.
William Wilson, linendraper, Bristol, July 4 and
Aug. 4, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton,
official aasign-e, Bristol;! Clarke Wabaeatiall Bristol.
Charles Collins, carpet manufacturer, Alder manbury,
July 3 and 31, at twelve, at the Birmingham District
Court. Chrittie,lefficial[assignee, Birmingham; Brinten,
Kidderminster; or to Reece, Birmingham.
PRICE OF SUGAR.
The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, corn-
puted from returns made in the week ending June i 7,
1851, excttnive Of Customs Duties paid or payable thereon
on the importation thereof into Great Britain:—
From the British possessions in America 255. 3d. per cwt
From the Mauritius 265. ll d. „
From .he East Indies .... —s. —d. „
Average price of the two foregoing de-
scriptions of sugar, jointly, computed as
above, and exclusive of duty ... 255. 4d.
By authority of Parliament,
HENRY BICKN b:LL, Clerk of the Grocers' Company.
Grocers'-hall, June 2

BANK OF ENGLAND.
(From this night's Gazette.)
An Acccnnt, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth or Victoria,cap. 32 for
the Week ending on Saturday, the 14th day of June, 1851.
198 CE DZPARTMENT.

Notes tasaed.• •• •• •• 27,293,350

Government debt •• 11,;;15,100
Other securities •• • • 2,984,960
Gold coin and bullion 13,265,175
silver bullion • ... • • 33,375

£27,29i,550

.C 27,298,550
M. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier.
Dated the 13th day of June, 1851.
BANKING DEPIATLIEN T.

X.
Proprietorecapltal 14,55.3,000
Rest .. .•• • .. 3,097,191
Public deposits (in-
°lading Exchequer,
Commissioners of
National Debt, Sav-
ings-banks, and Di-
vidend accoun‘s).. 7,809,278
Other deposits • • 8,907,866
Seven day and other
Bills •••• • • • • •• • • 1,058,893

,Governinent

secnri-

ties (including Dead
I Weight Annuity)• • 13,541,281
Other securities •• • • 12,837,529
!Notes •••••• • • • • •• 8,417,100
!Gold and silver coin.. 627,324

X 35,425,231

£35,426,234
MARSHALL, Chief Cashier.

Dated the 19th day of June, la:

COURSE OF EXCH
Amd t er a am • •• 11 16.

UNGE.-(1.11IS DAY.)
Gibraltar.—
Leghorn 30 40
Milan 35 40
Venice..............
Naples 41
Uwlernio,peroz........ 123%
Ne,sina •....... 124
Lisbon.— • • .......... 5.?%
Oporto ... • • 53%
Rio Janeiro • •

three. m onths.. 11 17%
Rotterdara • • .. • • 11 171
Antwerp • • • • • • • • •• . • • • 2.5 22%
Brilasels• • • • , 25 22%
Rdmburgh .... • • M.B. 13 7'4
A1t0n..... ..... • .
Paris, 3 dayesight , • 25
Ditto, 3 montial 25 22%
Marseilles ............ 25 22%
80ar,1caux......... •
frank.,:rton Mains.... 119
Bev „„ „. „ „ „
Vienna, •!.ffec. flo •• •• 12 35
Tr:este, ditto.. • , 12 3t
Petersburgh, Rblo.. 37
M-141.ri,) „ 50
Cadiz 50 i
Re.reeira • " 1

Itienos Ayres .. ••.. ••
'New York, 60 dayesight 28 yi
Philadelphia .... • • ....

PRICES OF BULLION, PER OS,
t'orelign held In bars.. XIS 17
,ortugal Gole Cola •• 0 0 0
3paialsla Doueloons .. 0 0 0
New Dollars •... •• 0 4 114
iilverin bars ......•• 4 5 0%

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From th
5uc.......17L0nd0n New Price Current, June 20.)
an advance on importers of West India Sugar are
asking
on former rates of 6d per cwt ope-
rated agaio,t
for the week 2)5., business. The purchases are 460, and
day borne
elle s of
cases rather ohu;e° "'iti &c , the market closing in some
RE FINED.--To last Friday.
Refined
dealers made purchases with
more freedom in
..ougar, and prices closed with
for low to good grocery lumps.
firmness at 46s 6d to 4-d3
The market i 3 firm fi::
Crushedfori. Sugar, and a good de-
mand exists for Foreign
—This afternoon there was noublic sale
hipping; but British met a
slow sale.
some
MA TJURITITTS.
of Mauritius Sugar, Privately, however,
parcels
parcels of
were sold at h'gher rates, and holdtheres
, auctietes of Ben gel
EAST INDIA.--This afternoon
were at full rates,
auction
cases
oannd2,o4o
Sugar sold privately
at a small advance for better sorts. At
bags found buyersteit 423 to 43s 6d f.
--r good
grainy yellow, ane 458 bags brown at 28a
to fine soft Madras is wanted for the formetro,:alltlef.er fine
Foamosa—To-day there was more desire to operate
in Foreign Sugar for the United Kingdom, and farther
purchases were made by exporters at former ratelii
the particulars are not allowed to transpire. The market
,rtlet
closes with a firm tone for all sorts of Foreign, Whitt
Savannah excepted.
MOLASSES.—Prices are not better; there is, however,
rather more business doing; low to fine West India at
1,35t° 16e, Bengal and Mauritius 12s to 12s 6d, Cuba
ad Porto Rico 14s to 15s per cwt;
rbere are several
buyers rather under these rates. Fine Honey is wanted
at 508 to 60s, but other sorts are purchased with cau-
tion at 25s to 45s per cwt.
COIFEE,-._To•day a sale of 300 pkgs Jamaica how-
ever attracted little attention,66d and prices declined ls to 2s,
4
10W mid at 46s to, fine to fine fine ord 41s
435 bd, good ord 38s to 40
Plantation several parcels ,and pea berry 58s 6d. Of
sold privately at rather better
from rates, low mid and mid 49s to 52s are most in de-
mand. For Native the market is still dull at 36s 6d to
37s 6d per cwt.
COCOA.—Trinidad is wanted and full a t are offered,
there are however now few parcels in rates
the ma
fine,
market, red
has been selling privately at 43s to 478 for ord to
and grey at 369 to 40s. Grenada however met with
little attention, and of 436 bags 25 brls 2tod to resatauction
a small part only sold at 355 to 378, and g 0
at 383 to 425, being the previous value. Foreign fine red
offering at any further reduction, sales are still is not
upon a
small scale. Bahia and Para at 26s to 28s, and Guaya-
quil at 30s per cwt.
TEA.—Prices are still receding for common and good
ordinary Congou, the former selling at 9d to Sid, and
better at Sid per lb ; the home trade has been good, and
several shipping orders were executed; there is, however,
an increasing supply, but no further decline is at pre-
sent looked for. Ia medium to rasher strong blacki.h leaf;
sales are Ma fair extent in consequence of 10d to 1 lid per
lb having been taken; but good to fine qualities have been
purchased with much caution, although offered at Is to
Is 6d. In Oolong sales have been small, and parcels are
Offering at is to ls 93. Pouchong is dull of sale at Sid to
90, but of this sort only a t IF
ri ieg quantity is in the market.
Holders of green are reluctant to sell at end further reduc-
tion; dealers, Low aver, purchase with caution, and supply
sorts are most freely
is plentiful; but low and medium of-
fered fci sale. For scented and Pekoe Teas the rates

taken b,sing rather under last week occasioned opera-
tions to be upon rather a large scale.
SPlCES.—Cassia Lignea remains in sm all supply, and
is herd for 102 s to 105 s per cwt., but inquiries have been
made. Cassia Buds in small lots realise( I 105 to 1103.
For Cloves there are yet few buyers, and at sue on 96
bags Bourbon were taken in at 6id t o 6id per lb.
Penang can be obtained at 10d to is 3d, and
Amboyna Bd. Mace met with a fair sale,
first sort 2s 5d to 2s 7d, 2nd 2a id to 2s 3d, 3rds
Is lld to 2s. Nutmegs continue in good request at the
previous value, and 45 pkgs at auction roalised 23 4d to
2s 8d for ord to mid brown. The rates paid privately
for better kinds are 2s 2d to 3s 9d, and ;for low to good
limed Is 10d to 2s 6d. In Cinnamon s ales to a fair
extent have been made; Ceylon, first sort 2s 4d to 3s
6d, second diito is 10d to 2s sd, third and fourth
Is to 2s. Ginger sells more freely for I loam consuml%
tion, but at previous moderate rates. At auction 2
pkgs realised 74s to 91s for mid to good and 62a
ii
to 40s for ord to goon ord, but better ,crts are
28s.
and h
51 to 91. Of African 500 bags were disposed ofat
15s
Export sorts of East India are little wt inted, aer
at
to 18s is the value. Pimento is rather
alelhedrsp jsed
public sale, however, 568 bags e_
of, good mid to good went at 4il to 4widr' low mfhirdrep
to
mid
4*d to 4id per lb. Prices ruling moderater
c
occasion a better demand, and privately several transac•
ticns have been taken, Malabar 3d to 3f I, clean Suma-
tra
upon a roore
i
3d, and Penang rather dusty 21d to 2 id. Only one
uc tio n a ,
r©
r andu p consump-
tion
small
s parcelhh
the
increase.
h be n off.e
S
at
extended scale at 5d to Bd. Of Cayenne 6 pkgs sold at
areleds suction
white
Is id to is 2d, but 58 bags Pod were tab:en in at 58s.
RICE.—To-day East India Rice was .much better in
demand, and an advance of 3d per cwt wits obtained. At
public sale 2,780 bags 600 pockets Bengal, were all sold;
fine white realised 105 6d to lls, good lOs to 103 6d,
mid mil good mid 93 to 103, low 8s 6d, and damaged
5s per cwt.
SPIRITS.—Of Leeward Island Rum several parcels
have been disposed of; holders are also firmer, and obtain
Is 5d to is 6d per gallon proof. A good demand prevails
pe piaacrotieisn
Demerara; will
for East India at is 3id to is 4d proof, and at these
notseltibe Sp
rez
?rsa l
paidtransactions
rhaveates
taken
2s 3d for 32 to 40 per cent. overprool' For Jamaica
rates are not higher ; at the same tin ie h. s ippers and
home dealers aro more inclined to do bmtiness, and a fair
quantity has been sold, consisting chiefly of better sorts.
The value of plain and mid 30 to 33 per cent.
over proof is 2s 4d to 2s Bd, good :12 to 32 to 36
over 28 9d to 3s 3d, fine 34s to 38 ove r 35 4d to 4s 4d
per gallon. Holders of Brandy are traable to obtain
any advance, although there is a good trade doing, and
consumption is better than it was ; but the stock
is yet heavy. Prices for Cognac: best Brands
of the Vintage of 1850 rule at 4 s 4d to 4s 6d,
1849 ditto 4s 7d to 4s 9d, 1848 ditto 4s lld to Si 2d,
1847 ditto 5s 5d to 5s 7d, of der sorts tis 16d to 7s. infe-
rior kinds 2s 6d to 4s, Bordeaux 2s 2d to 2s 3d. The
value of British made Spirit is 9s 5d i:o 9s 6d; Gin 8s
2d to 8s 3d for 22 per cent under proof; Geneva is 7d
to is Bd, and fine is 9d to 2s; the dem and is, however,
not brisker.

INDIGO.—This afternoon a public sale of 150 serons
Gustimala Indigo weds at rather lower rates, and two-
thirds sold, low to good hard strong coppery Cortes
went at Is 6d to 3s 3d, with a few mid &Area 3s 4d to
3s 7d.

COCHlNEAL.—lmporters are still free sellers, and at
the public sales price declined Id per lb, but 240 bags
were nearly all disposed of; Mexicfai silvers, low 2s 9d,
middling and good 2s 10d to 2s Ild, blacks 3s 4d to
9s 6:1; and Ilunduras, low to good silvers, 2s 10d to
3s 6d.

SALTPETRE.—There was less demand. to-day for rough
Saltpetre, and in some cases rather lowed. rates are taken.
At auction 707 bags (3.lcutta sold at 26s 6d to 27s 6d
for mid to goad 6 to 84 per cent refraction.
TALLOW.—This aztetnoon the public sales of 39s pkgs
South American Tallow went at 33s t) 36s 9d, and 500
eke Sydney, Sheep 35s 90 to 37; Ox 341 s 6d to 35s 9d.
OILS —There has been a reduction for Cod; limited
sales have been made at 361 103 to 371 per tun;
ai,d for arrival these rates are not obtainable. Of
Southern the supply is small; the rates paid being 301
t 331 for low to fine. Pale Seal a good business has
been corcluded at 301 to Ol 10; but :supply is on the
increase; other sorts era wanted at 281 to 291 10s;
few parcels at present are, however, on offer.
Sperm has been purchased with reluctance ; and on
i,he part of holders a desire is evinced to sell fine
American at ail to 831 103; and British 841 to 851.
flesdmatter is nut much inquired for, and 891 to 921 is
the value. In Linseed Oil transactions have been upon a
moderato scale, both by shippers and home
dealers; rates also tend towards, and rule at
32s 3d to 32s 6d per cwt on the spot, there is,
however, only a limited supply. Few buyers
are to be met with for delivery, and there are sellers at
325. Olive has been in good quest, rooderate rates aro
however, taken—Gallipoli, selling at 381 to 391; other
sorts at 361 to 371 103 per tun. Palm finds a
more ready sale, yet prices remain at 27s 6d
to 28s for fine. Cocoa Nut met with more attention
from shippers and home dealers; the rates-paid were
27s to 28s 63 for Sydney : and 283 6d to 31s for Cey-
lon and Cochin, there is also a less quantity on offer.
Fur Rspe Seei Oil the market is firm, and demand is
increasing—brown has been selling at 31s 6d to 325, pale
33s to 33s 61; Foreign Refined 343 per cwt; still there
is no decrease in supply.

BIPERIAL PARLIAAIENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four
o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Lords' amendments to the Edinburgh,!Perth, and
Dundee Railway Bill were considered and agreed to.
Tne following Bills were considered and agreed to
and the Bills ordered to be engrossed :—St. Helen's Im-
provement (No. 2) Bill, the Warkworth Harbour and
Dock Company Bill.
Tne Duchy of Lancaster (High Peak Mining Customs
and Mineral Company) Bill was read a second time
and ordered to be committed.
The General Reversionary and Investment Company's
(Imposition of Stamp Duty) Bill wentr.sthrough Com-
mittee.
The following Bills were read a third time and passed,
namely—
Cheltenham Improvement and Health Bill.
Magneto-E!ectric Telegraph Company Bill.
United Kingdom Telegraph Company Bill.
PETITIONS.

Lord C. MANNERS presented a petition from Lei-
cestershire complaining of agricultural distress, and
praying for protection.
Sir W. VERNER presented a petition from the county
of Armagh against the National System Education.
Mr. MUNTZ presented a petition from an individual,
formerly an officer in the Austrian navy, complaining
that during the war his ship was seized by a British
cruiser, underthe impression that she was a French vessel,
and since then he had been striving to obtain redress
from Government without success. The petition prayed
the house to take his case into consideration.
Mr. ANDERSON presented a petition from 1,000
mariners frequenting the port of London, praying for
the unconditional repeal of the Mercantile Marine Act.
Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition against Papal
aggresxion.
Mr. COWAN presented a petition from Edinburgh,
praying for the abolition of tests in the Scottish Univer-
sities ; also a petition from the same place, praying for
the abolition of the annuity tax.
Sir JOHN YOUNG presented a petition from Cashel
against the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill.
Mr. PACKE presented a petition from the Agricul-
tural Society of Leicestershire complaining of agricultu-
ral distress, and praying for protection.
Mr. A. HASTIE presented a petition from Glasgow
against the Public-House (Scotland) Bill; also a peti-
tion from the fish dealers of the same place in favour of
the Fisheries Bill.

Mr. COBDEN presented a petition from a place in the
West Riding in favour of the People's Charter.

NEW WRit.

On the motion of bir DE LACY EVANS, a new
writ was ordered for Greenwich for the election of a
burgess to serve in the present Parliament in the room
of Mr. Barnard, deceased.

PETITIONS.
Sir G. PECHELL presented a petition from the tem-
perance society of Brighton, praying for the repeal of the
taxes on knowledge.
Mr. FORDYCE presented a petition from Aberdeen
in favour of the abolition of tests in the Scotch Univer-
sities.

Sir J. PAKINGTON presented a petition from Droit-
wich complaining of the expense of the rural police.
NOTICES OF MOTION.
The dropped notices of motion were re-appointed.
Mr.
___ MERCANedTIthLeEFMreAsiRdeInNtEofACthTe.
table forWW 11eneWN Board of
he would be ready to lay a Bill on the
Trade h ask
ent of the Mercantile Marine A
and he
h ":51t
-I)
ECCLESIASTICAL e!ne said
n the
te d t a the
ab l Bill
°
Mr. BountESIASTICAL TITLES.
signed, from
Mr.lll—timheenedalpetition,numerously
siastical Titles Biilun. tY of Tipperary against the Eccle-
The House theu We
BERNAL in the chair." into Committee onthe
Mr. KEOGH said i n aw fa 'se
w days.
n nearly
u ai readclytl,
" Lord
introduce a clause to prevent the
Russell had promised to'
against the synodical action the Bill being construed
of the Roman
Church in Ireland, it was not his !Catholic
proviso to the end of the clause
the paper.
which
to move the
Mr. MONSELL moved the insertion of h
oieh he had placed on
words to the end of the the insertion following
that nothing in this Act contained I,
8-all b,
interfere with or in any manner to construeded always,
to
restrict th
' free action of the Roman Catholic churche
the United Kingdom in matters of a in
spiritual
nature." He was sure there was no
„ein
the House who was not sincerely anxious to avoid those
angry bickerings which had for so many days past di-
vided the people of this country and Ireland
into two hostile camps. The amendment he
proposed would not altogether satisl the views
which he individually entertained on the subject, but he
could nut conceive it possible how any Hon. Members.
who were really desirous to maintain religious
liberty, could oppose it. He knew there were
lion. Members opposite whose vote he could not expect
on this occasion, but he was unable to conceive any
grounds on which the Noble Lord at the head of the
tiovernment could consistently refuse to give him his
support. It was evident to every one who had paid any
attention to the discussions in the House, that while on the
one hand the opponents of the Bill declared in a dis-
tinct and solemn manner that they had no desire to

interfere directly or indirectly with the temporal
authority of the Queen, on the other, it was
equally clear that those Honourable Members
distinctly stated that they
with the spiritual action of the
Roman Catholic Church. Under those circumstances it
seemed possible that the two parties might come to
wish
hr tte to interfere
the
whohad n o s u s
some sort of agreement upon the question which
now divided them. The question was this—who was
to decide what is spiritual and what is not spiritual?
Now, the proposition which he made would have the
effect of leaving the decision of that question entirely
and absolutely with the civil courts. If it were
carried, it would not be for the Roman Catholics
to decide what was spiritual and what was temporal—
the decision of that question would fall solely within
the jurisdiction of our civil courts of law. It might be
said, perhaps, that great litigation would arise if such a
course were adopted, but he bad only to appeal
to three great authorities against the truth of that as-
sertion. Grattan distinctly said, the statement that the
Roman Catholic Church in any way interfered with
temporal matters was the calumny of a scolding
sect.—(Hear.) The Rev. Sidney Smith asserted
also, that in all his experience he never knew a single in-
stance in which the spiritual power had encroached
on the temporal power, though during the time
Sidney Smith alluded to there was a Roman Ca-
tholic hierarchy in Ireland. Lord Plunkett, again,
said on the occasion of the Roman Catholic Emancipa-
tion Bill debate in the House of Lords, that though
during the previous thirty years the most acute minds
had made the most searching inquiry, they never
found a single instance in which the spiritual power
of the Pope had interfered with the temporal interests
of the people of this realm. He would leave the motion
in the, hands of the House, trusting that it would be
agreed to in a spirit of conciliation.
The SOLICI FOR-GENERAL said that he should be
sorry if any expression should fall from the Govern-
ment indicative of anything else but that conciliating
feeling to which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded.
The Hon. Gentleman must, however, remember
that the question which he had raised was one which
had been before the House several times during the
long discussion which they had had on the Bill. The
Hon. Member had proposed one himself of a similar
nature.—(Hear, hear.) The answer then given,
which seemed to satisfy the Committee, was tha
in reality if any spiritual purpose were pointed
out which would be interfered with by this clause, it
would be most desirable they should pay attention
to the subject, and endeavour to devise a means to pre-
vent such interference. But no such purpose had been
pointed out in the course of the debate either by the
Honourable Gentleman himself or any other Honourable
Member, except that the Bill would interfere with
ordination, and therefore with the sacrament of
marriage. Now it had been pointed out, then, that the
functions of bishops did not depend upon the titles held
by them, but upon their ordination. And in fact since the
year 1829 ordination, and marriage, and all other sacra-
ments, had been going on with as much freedom as pos-
sible. That being in reality the only suggestion pointed
out with any interference which the Bill would effect,
he thought it was rather too much to ask the Committee
to consent to a clause which would only introduce con-
fusion and difficulties in explaining the cause.
Mr. MONSELL continued to maintain that this Bill
would interfere with the action of vicars apostolic, and
he ren- faked that the argument of the Solicitor-General
did not touch upon the point at all.
Mr. SCULLY said the speech of the Solicitor-
General applied only to the action of the 10th
George IV. This Bill, however, went much further
than that act, for it rendered illegal the introduction of
every bull from the Court of Rome, and therefore inter-
fered with the ceremony of ordination. No bishop here-
after could be ordained in Ireland, and every act done
by a bishop would be illegal.
Mr. SADLIER was exceedingly sorry that the Go-
vernment had not acquiesced in the amendment. Those
who proposed it were quite ready to make any verbal
alterations in it to meet the views of the Minister, but
the fact was the Minister was opposed to it in principle,
and he would not therofore allow it to pass under
eny circumstances. True a similar amendment
had once or twice been proposed while the first clause
was under discussion, but they were told then that the
first clause was purely of a declaratory character, and
the time had not then arrived when such an amend-
ment could be entertained. The Government had
often announced that they had no desire to
interfere with the spiritual affairs of the
Roman Catholic Church; but what they laid down as a
precept they were not disposed to put in practice, or
they would not hesitate to adopt this amendment. But,
said the Hon. and Learned Attorney-General, it would
be dangerous to pass this proviso, because the
Roman Catholic attributed a different and a larger
meaning to the term spiritutual functions than the
Protestant, but he must take the liberty of denying that
rt,sertion, which he was convinced neither the Honour-
able and Learned Gentleman, nor any other supporter of
the Government, could prove. However, it mattered
little to him what determination the Committee ulti-
mately came to on this subject, as he as well as
the majority of his Roman Catholic fellow subjects
were determined that the present system of go-
vernng their Church should undergo no ohange
They were determined that no Bill, however stringent
its provisions, should force them to return to the system
of bishops apostolic.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL said, if he remembered rightly,
the Speech from the Throne, while it recommended legi-
slation on this subject, also advised the House not to ie-
terfere.with the religious liberty of the people. Now if this
proviso were not adopted would the House be complying
with that request? Certainly not; and as the Bill was
calculated to give rise to immense difficulties if passed
in its present shape he trusted the Government would re-
considea its decision. At all events, if they could not
adopt tho exact words of the proviso, let them
accede to its spirit, and frame some paragraph of their
own by which the spiritualities of the Roman Catholic
Church would be left untouched.

Colonel RAWDUN said the simple object of the pro-
viso was to protect Roman Catholics against the opera-
tion of the Bill in matters purely spiritual, and he had
failed in hearing anything from the Government show-
ing that its introduction would impair the efficiency of
the Bill. The Attorney-General had said the Bill
would not interfere with spiritual matters, and he (Col.
Rawdon) thought it was only right the Government
should give the Roman Catholics the benefit of a doubt
by agreeing to the proviso. He should support the
motion of the Hon. Member.

Lord J. RUSSELL explained that what he said was
that the question involved in the motion had been
decided before in the Home. (Loud cries of
" Hear, hear.") It was perfectly clear that the in-
troduction of the words to the end of the clause would
lead to great disputes and litigation, and would in
fact take away from Parliament the right to decide what
was spiritual and what was temporal, and leave that
right so to decide to the courts of law. It was on those
grounds that ho opposed the motion.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the proviso ... ... ... 42
Agsinst it ... ... 160
Plajority against ... •.• —llB
Colonel SIBTHORP m+.ved the addition of the fol-
lowing words:—" And shall further be imprisoned until
the said sum of five hundred pounds shall have been
paid; and after the payment of the aforesaid sum of
5004 shall he banished from the United Kingdom of Great
Britain and IrelaLd during the period of his natural life."
He did not know Cardinal Wiseman, but he certainly
was a dangerous mau, and it would be all the better if
they got rid of him, for one black sheep was quite suffi-
cient to spoil the flock. Not having any hope, how-
ever, of passing the clause, he should not press it to a
division.

Mr. MOORE said he certainly thought that if the
crime of Cardinal Wiseman really was of that magni-
tude which the Noble Lord, in his opening speech at the
commencsuaeot of tqe session, had described, the penalty
suggested by the Hon. and Gallant Member was certainly
more reasonable than that provided by the Noble Lord
himself, and of the two, if he had to choose between the
two, he certainly should clavicle with the Hon. and Gal-
lant Member.

The amendment was then withdrawn.
Mr. REYNOLDS said that he wished to take a last op-
portunity of declaring that this clause was a repeal of the
best portion of the Catholic Emancipation Act, and would
be remembered against the Whig Government to the end
oF their lives. The whole effect of the discussion on the
Bill on the Irish people had been to induce them to
withdraw all their confidence from this House.

(LEFT SITTING.)

HOLLAND.

The First Chamber of the States-General of Hol-
land came on the 16th to an important decision. It
rejected by a majority of 19 to 14 the Bill adopted
by the Second Chamber, having for object to allow,
as an indemnity, a pension of 2,000 florins a year to
the old members of the First Chamber, dissolved ac-
cording to the terms of the second additional article
of the Constitution, and who had been named for life.