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London, England, 1802-11-24 00:00:00

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ries More plundered. Another part of the conilud
of France, he.observed, involved a breach of the
Treaty of Amiens, and see Med to affeCt the Do.
minions even of. our own
,Sovereign.---He first al-
luded to the House, of Oiatige, which was by
Treaty to be fully /indemnified for its pecuniary arid
political _losses ; and on this • head he would take
the liberty even of asking. the Noble Lord who
signed the Treaty, if he was of dpinion, the House
of Orange was indemnified ; or' if thereivere any
hopes if that House should not be indetnnified in
Germany, that it, would bo,indemnifiedat all ? The
Other point he allnded to respeeted the Eletioral'
Dominions of our Sovereign, which it would appeaf
were to be made to suffer on account of England ;
And that a part of the little pittance of indemnity.
allotted to_ the House of aninge, tPken from
the Territories of -our own'Sovereign. He
would forbea:-- dwelling on this topic, .e.; he felt
cher nothing, he could sty could the
impression.whieh such.,a consideration tnust'inake
on the House. With resped. to -the alteration in
the'tone and language of Ministers, he observed, it
was not till October this was apparent, or that
Means were,teken for securipg an adequate mode of
defence. He agreed'. to the auzmentation requi'red,
being necessary, but the House should be informed
uppn what grounds it was called for, which did not
previously exist.—lt was fair to ask for what par-
ticular reasons such measures were resorted to. It
could not be any alteration in the disposition of
France towards this Country, for every day since
the signature of the. PreiirniziarY 'Treaty, France has
afforded , unequivoCal proofs of a hostile spirit .
towards this Country.—The ,best, hope -of she
Country at present was, that-a total change of systerri
and principle in its Government should rake plaee..
He felt no animosity towards any of His Majesty's
present Ministers, for some of them 'he had a
sincere respeet ;
.but he felt it his duty to say, that
if it were meant to consult the true interests
of the Country a change must sake place, with
respeet to the persons to whose discretion the ma.
nagement of its,affurs were to' be trusted; he here
entered 'into, some derailed instances, respeeling
which he censured the conduet.of Minister's ; aftete,
which he adverted to the affair of Malta, one of the
three commanding Naval Stations, which, he ob-
served, was happily retained by this Country only
through the inexplicability of the arrangements
which were made respeaing 'it. He censured the
Ministers for going on disarming, notwithstanding,
the repeated proofs they had of the oppressive and
ambitious spirit of France. The increase of the
Power of France .should be with us a fresh motive
for resistance : the day of account should not be •
insecure and 01;:ronou:AIM:11-"eace.' s • -
the Country should be* called forth—the prepara-
tions should be prompt and vigorous, and the lan,
guage firm and decided: The Country Could be ex-
tricated but by such means, and a recurrence for
their diteetion to that person to whom the Countty
with ene assent looked' up in momenta of distress
and despondence, as the only instrument of its sal:.
vation.

Lord PELiIAZf conceived it unneceisary, at
present, to follow the Noble Lords, at the other side
of the House, in their detail of arguments. Much
would necessarily become the. subjed of future dis 7
cussion, particularly when the Estimates were before
the House. A degree of mutual jealousy between
the two Countries was natural, after so long a eon-
test.—He briefly defended the condo& of I\ilinistrs,
with respet to Con tiovntal Interference, and advert-
ed to the consideratfon, that the Powers interested
were satisfied with -iespeci to the German hider'''.

nities.
The Earl of C A ATS FORT spoke at some length,
in support of the leading arguments of his Nt:bie
Relative, Lord GRENVILLE.
Lord HOB ART answered, with much ability
and spirit, several of the propo,itions urged by the
last-mentioned Peer—it was at present unnecessary
to follow him in detail ; but he denied the charge
of Ministers having gone on disarming from
day to day; the periods of service of those who
were enlisted had expired ; they were "nece3sarily
discharged.—A. great deal was said to establish the
inference that the Government of the Country was
now placed- in incapable hands.—As he had the ho-
nour to be of those Ministers, it would ill be-
come him to speak as to their opinion of their own
abilities, but when they-were told of the situation
of the Continent, he would ask, what the situation
of. it was when that Noble. Lord felt it his duty to
relinquish his own situation as a ,Minister?--He
supported him with pleasure while in office, but
they were not to be 'told that the present situation
of Europe was owing to the incapacity of the
present Ministers—it- was owing to circumstances
beyond the power of the Country to control.—With
resped to Malta, he differed in opinion from the
Noble Lord ; and in concluding, he expressed his
hope that the House would be sensible of ali the
difficulties under which the present Ministry came
into oce—these
,difficulties were well known to
the Noble Lord, and he would say, that whenever
the Noble Lord criminated Ministers for their in_
capacity, he criminated himself for resigning his
situation.
The question was then put, and the Address was
voted Nem. Dis. and the Lords with White Staves,
were ordered to wait upon His Majesty, to learn.
when he would be pleased to be waited on with the
same.

On the Motion of Lord PELHAM, Lord WAL.
SINGHAM was appointed Chairman of the Commit-
tee of Privilege, of all the Committees of the House,
and of the private Committees during the Session.
The owl Orders at the coalmen-cement-a the