The Sun.
London, England, 1833-01-30 00:00:00

ELECTION OF SPEAKER.

Mr. HUME then begged to call the attention of the
House to the very important duty for which they were
met. In his opinion there was no duty so important,
considering the circumstances in which that Honour.
able House at present stood. He was well aware that
he had undertaken a duty, which, personally, was ex-
tremely unpleasant to him. But it was an act of public
duty which he was called on to perform, and in the per-
formance of it, no unpleasantness should have any weight
with him. In his opinion any person who might be
elected to the high honour of the Chair of that
House, ought to enjoy, not only the good opinion of the
House, but of the public at large.—(Cheers.) He was
well aware that it had been customary to make arrange-
ments for the choice of the Speaker. There had been
generally certain parties in the House who had so arranged
the nomination, that, from their majority, they expected
to carry it. It would, doubtless, be considered, on his
part, presumptuous to offer any opinion on that mode of
electing a Speaker, and it would, perhaps, be considered
equally so that he should conclude his present address
by proposing an individual he thought fit to fill the
Chair of that House, instead of leaving it to those who
might have made arrangements for that purpose. The
excuse he had to offer for the course he was now to pur-
sue was, that the House had met under most peculiar
circumstances, and at a time when, if ever the public at-
tention was directed to their proceedings, it was at that
moment. The House was, therefore, called on to be pe•
culiarly careful in the selection they were about to
make of a person who should enjoy its confidence and
esteem—(Loud cheering)—one who would entertain
the sentiments and opinions of the majority of the House.
—(Hear.) It had been usual that a majority of the
House should nominate a person to the Chair, whose po-
litical opinions accorded with theirs.—(Cheers.) On no
occasion had the people taken so great an interest in the
proceedings of the House; and on no occasion bad they
had so great a nomination of Members as on the
present occasion ; and therefore on no occasion had the
House been placed in the situation it now stood, with re-
gard to the person it chose for its Speaker. The grounds
on which he now proceeded were not official ones ; he had
no communication with any individual connected with the
Government, or any other party. He had, however, been
informed it was the intention of certain Members, by pre-
vious
arrangement-, and by previous consent,
he did not know how extensive, but so extensive
he understood that it was considered certain, to propose the
Right Honourable Charles Manners Sutton, the late
Speaker of that House.—(Cheers.) There was no man
in that House who had more desire than himself to ex-
tend towards Mr. Sutton those feelings which one gentle-
man extended to another, for the kindness he had al-
ways extended to all the Members ut the House. He
begged it therefore to be understood, that in any observations
he might make, he only acted from a sense of duty, which
made it necessary to lay aside all private feelings. There
were circumstances at the present moment which, parti-
cularly in his (Mr. Hume's) view, called upon the House
to consider, independently of what had been the practice on
former occasions, what was the course thet, should be pur-
sued then. As the acts of that House were peculiarly
now open to the public, they should be prepared to state
why they were about to deviate from the unanimous prac-
tice of Parliament. He (Mr. Hume) could not, as a
Member who had always advocated Parliamentary Re-
form, not of great importance in itself, but as a means
towards most important changes—changes essentially ne-
cessary to the institutions of the country, for without
those changes Reform would fall to the ground, and the
people would not derive those advantages they were
entitled to from their exertions—he, as a Mem-
ber
advocating Reform more extensive than that which
had been given to the country, could not concur in the
opinion that this House could express its sentiments fully,
if they had at their head a Speaker directly opposed to them
in principles. He could never bring himself to believe that
such a Speaker could enjoy the confidence of the House.
He would challenge any person to produce a single instance
where the inajority of a body of men, assembled together
to elect individual to regulate their proceedings, selected
an individual known to profess sentiments contrary to their
own.—(Cheers.) In saying this he meant to convey no
reflection upon the Right Honourable Gentleman who
had maintained those principles during a long political

life; hut times might arise when men might be required
of no ordinary talents, who entertained opinions con-
sonant with the majority of the House. That time he
(Mr. Hume) had no hesitation in saying had now ar-
rived.—(Cheers. ) Differences might arise between that
House and the House of Peers ; and he (Mr.
Hume) could not but think, if any such circum-
stances took place, and an individual professing con•
trary opinions to the majority of the House was
elected as its Speaker, that great danger would ari-e
lest those opinions should be compromised. He would
not say that such a thing would take place ; he hoped it
would not ; but in his opinion the House ought to guard
against the probability of such an occurrence. He was
anxious, therefore, to see if the House could not find
some Member who agreed with the sentiments of a
majority of the House, to be its Speaker,—a man who
had been sent there as a Member of a great por-
tion of the community. He (Mr. Hume) could
point out several well qualified to fill so important
a situation ; and he begged to inform the House that it
was his intention, before he sat down, to put in nomina-
tion one of the present Members for Staffordshire—
(Cheers)—as, in his opinion, a fit person for that high
station, though, he must confess, he did not come
up to what he (Mr. Hume) wished.—(Great laughter.)
Hip experience both in public and private affairs would
e•
p,stAmy qualify him for the appointment. It was only ne-
cessary to appeal to the manner in which, day after day,
and session after session, he had discharged his duties in
that House to ascertain whether he was qualified or not.
He (Mr. Hume) did not think that the experience of any
Speaker during the four or five last past nomina-
tions could have entitled any of them to such confi-
dence and respect as that of the Hon. Gentleman
whom he now appeared to nominate. Upon a trial
he would he found to be a person most proper for a
Speaker. His station in life was likewise to be taken into
account ; and then it was hoped that no future Speaker
would ever become a pensioner on the public; it might
be very useful to look to the fortune and station in life of
the Speaker now to be appointed, and both time one and
the other could not fail to insure the Hon. Member for
Staffordshire the confidence of the House. The Hon.
Member would refer to the speeches of Sir Robert Peel,
and others on that side of the House, upon former
nominations, as regarded the qualities necessary for a
Speaker, to show that the Hon. Member whom be now
proposed possessed all the essentials in the highest degree.
Sir Robert Peel had said, in addressing that House, that
the House elected a Speaker to be the guardian of
the duties of its Members—duties that might affect
even time remotest posterity.—(Hear, hear.) Whatever
might be his talents and attainments, he considered
it to be absolutely necessary that the Speaker should pos.
seas the confidence of the House. Was it, then, possible
that the people of England could have confidence in the
proper discharge of the duties of the House, if the House
of Commons this day should elect the Right Hon. Charles
Manners Sutton ? He (Mr. II.) confessed he could not
have confidence in it. He judged of others by his
own feelings ; and if the House elected a decided Anti-
Reformer to fill the Chair, was it to be supposed that the
people of England would be satisfied with such an election?
It was upon that ground the Hon. Gent. viewed with
alarm the possibility of such an appointment. It
would be impossible for the House to commit
itself more against the general feeling of the
country, by any step it might take, than by
making this appointment; and it was but justice to the
Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) to say, that in the short
speech, already alluded to, which he made, he had com-
prised all the views—(Cries of " Comprehended, compre-
hended," and laughter)—comprehended all the views that
could be taken on this subject. He was sorry to find
any attempt on the part of Ministers to carry into effect
their reforming measures through time agency of other par-
ties ; and, looking at the expression of feeling which had
been manifested in regard to the appointment of some of
the official servants of the King, he certainly regretted
much that Ministers did not take a lesson, and learn not
to oppose the feelings of the great mass of the people.
The present appointment was to be taken as the
only honourable appointment in the hands of the
people—ail other high appointments were in the hands
of his Majesty. The present appointment, then,
involved principles of time highest importance ; and the
great question wee, whether, under the Reform measure,
the Reformed House of Commons would place in their Chair
an individual whose opinions were known to be against
the various and important changes that had been effected
and were in progress towards the relief the country ex-
pected. Was it possible to reconcile any man's mind to
the sincerity of those who held out to the hopes of the
people their desire to carry into effect all the advantages of
the Reform Bill, if they placed in the chair a person whose
opinions were directly epposed to the Bill and to all its
consequences?—(Hear.) On the contrary, it would
be taken for granted that little was to be expected from
the representatives of the people of England, if they per-
mitted to be placed in the Chair one, however impartial
the Right Honourable Gentleman might be, against
whom even the tinge of suspicion could attach, or
to any act of his that might be construed to be against the
interests of the people. He (Mr. Hume) had been told,
since be entered the House, that if he opposed the re-ap-
pointment of the late Speaker, it would be supposed be
acted contrary to the principles of economy which he had
hitherto advocated. If he could believe that any such
paltry or trifling consideration—(Laughter)—actuated the
mind of any one, when the forwarding or the
retarding of the interests of the people were at stake, he
certainly would consider it beneath the notice either of the
dignity of the House, or of any individual Mettaber. He
denied that he had ever refused to any individual full com-
pensation for the duties he had rendered to his coun-
try ; hut he had always opposed giving to idle and
useless persons large sums, dragged from the pockets
of the people by excessive taxation—(Hear, hear, hear).—
and it must only have been some of those persons, feeling
the effect of that line of conduct on his part, who had
raised that report. When the appointment of a Speaker
was regarded as an appointment likely to effect great good,
or produce much mischief, to the country, pecuniary con-
sideration was to be put out of the question. He (Mr.
Hume) had not been able to get a copy of
the Bill but at the same time he had been
informed that by the Act of Parliatnent, if the House re-
elected the Right Hon. Gentleman to be the Speaker, he
would not only have hie salary as Speaker, bat be in pos-
session of his pension of 4,000/. 4-year.—(Hear, hear.)
He understood the pension did not cease upon the Right
Hon. Gentleman becoming Speaker again.—(Cries of
" Nor any pat tof it.") The pension only ceased upon ac-
cepting an appointment from his Majesty. This was not an
appointment by the Crown, but by the people. Therefore,
any gentlemen who might give his vote for the re-appoint-
ment of Mr. Sutton, under the impression that his 4,0001.
a yeas would cease, would vote under a mistake. The
Right Hon. Gentleman sat down by proposing that Ed-
ward John Littleton, Esq., should be elected Chairman
of the House of Commons.
The motion having been seconded by Mr. O'Coatateea,
Lord MORPEFH said that he failed not to con-
sider the request which caused him to come forward
on this occasion as a just compliment to the large consti-
tuent body of which he was the representative. In ap-
poaching the object for which he had risen, he felt
bound by what was due to himself, as well as by a
sense of truth, to mention that there were strong feelings
both of a private anti public nature which bad at
one time induced bins to contemplate a different ars
rangernent—(Hear)—but those circumstances to which
lie thus but faintly alluded had not arisen, and, therefore,
he bad turned to the Right Hon. Gentleman, who, for 16
years, and through six successive Parliaments, had filled
the arduous post of Speaker in that House, with so much
credit to himself, so much satisfaction to Parliament, and so
much advantage to the public ; and he called upon the
House, without any disparagement to the fame of
the Hen. Member for Staffordshire, who would not re-
quire any assurances of his friendship, he called upon the
House to secure to itself the benefit of the continuance of
those services which bad already been so fully appreciated,
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Hon. Gentleman was. not a partisan of time line of opinions
which he (Lord Morpeth) professed himself to be of,
could be deemed a very appropriate objection to the re-
appointment of the Right Hon. Manners Sutton, It was
always irksome to utter a panegyric in the presence of the
object of it. From this necessity his Lordship felt him-

self materially relieved, by referring to what took pion,
shortly before the close of the last Parliament. It would,
however, be remembered that when the Speaker! of
the House, at that time, announced the probable
prospect of his retiring from the Chair, the most
powerful and brilliant testimony was borne, by those
hest qualified to make it with effect, of the respect in which
:he Speaker was held by those who had been observers of
his entire career, as well as by those whose more recent
experience had been exercised. Of his condnct i.a the
midst of long, agitating, harassing contentions, but one
uniform opinion was expressed and entertained, of his un-
failing punctuality and dilieence—his dignity without
pedantry—his courtesy, without civility—qualities high
and rare in themselves, but invaluable in such an office,
and which had been exhibited throughout the whole of the
Right Hon. Gentleman's official conduct. Since he had
occupie the eminent staton of Speker of the Hof
Commodns, the number oft Parliamentary transactionsouse had
immeasurably increased. The department usually designated
as the private business department, ssoicli, perhaps, came
the most under their immediate cognizance, and more
than any other called for the positive guidance of the
Speaker, had shared largely in this increased growth. A,
an illustration of this, the adoption and increase of rail-
roads might be referred to. Upon all these matters, as
well as upon those of greater import, which aroused the
feelings, and affected the destinies of nations, he was ever
found to be accessible and clear in his cornamuications
of information. Interest, vanity, and party-spirit, re•
pined at his decisions. Violence and intemperance were
rebuked by his gentle, dignified, and forbearing conduct.
He knew not what had occasioned this change of opinion
of the individual who had been thus adjudged to be the best
qualified to fill the Chair, by the unanimous assent of
o e House to which the Hon. Member for Middlesex
formed no exception. So far from thinking that more la-
borious duties would he required from any Speaker, his
Lordship felt confident that any mode of conducting the
business of the House must be greatly forwarded by the ap-
pointment of Mr. Sutton. He was not desirous to introduce
at this moment any topics calculated to disturb the atten-
tion of the House, or to draw it from the immediate sub-
ject before it ; but he could not refrain from mentioning
that the changes which had recently taken place in the
constitution of Parliament, the source of so much hope to
some, to all of so much speculation, could not make it
less advisable that for all the purposes of expediting
business, preserving regularity, and maintaining order,
the House should borrow all the assistance in its power
from practice and tried ability.—(Cheers.) He hoped,
therefore, it would appropriate to itself all the valuable
services of those high attainments and great experience
which lay within its reach. He believed that
with whatever defects former Parliaments might
be chargeable, few would be found to say that the
forms of proceedings which generally prevailed in them
were not those calculated to expedite business. If the
Right Hon. Gentleman was again placed in the Chair, he
would bring into exercise ail the advantages afforded by
former Parliaments and by long experience. He there-
fore bad the honour to move that the Right Hon. Charles
Manners Sutton be appointed Speaker of the House.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT took the liberty thus early
to express his concurrence in all that hail been stated by
the Noble Lord near him, which at the same time laid
him under considerable embarrassment, his Lordship
having touched upon every point of importance in a man-
ner so able as to make it imprudent for any person to at..
tempt to follow him. The Honourable Member for
Middlesex also had left it difficult to add any thing to
what he had stated, though he had come to a conclu-
sion hardly to be expected. He would take this case upon
its merits—upon its merits only would he put it, and the
question was, who of the Members of that House was
known to be the fittest to discharge the important func-
tions of Speaker. At a time of this difficulty, in the eyes of
many persons—a time of embarrassment and danger, in the
eyes of many—in his, of nothing but a time of hope, and
to he looked forward to with satisfaction—but at a time
when, undoubtedly, it was highly Important the Chair
of the House of Commons should be filled by a
person of the utmost abilities—not upon a spe-
culation of what any Member might be capable or
willing to do, but possessing experience, and bringing
forward the most solid grounds of competency, who was
to be put in competition with the Right Honourable
Gentleman, who for 16 years bad pursued a course of con-
duct, in that Chair, that had called forth the univer-
sal approbation of the Members of the House, during
many successive Parliaments, in which the Honourable
Member for Middlesex had been invariably included.
The Right Hon. Gentleman seemed, according to the
Hon. Member for Middlesex, eminently qualified for the
office of Spe iker, except in one instance ; but the House
would recollect the conduct of the Right Hon. Gentleman
during the great struggle for Reform, when he made no
distinction between one Member and another of that House.
It was not only his conduct in the House which entitled him
to commendation, and indeed it was the vulgar opinion that
the Speaker of the Home bad nothing to do but to sit in
the chair, but it was his great services in regard to pri-
vate Bills, which were far more important and laborious
than his services in the House.—(Hear, hear.) It seemed,
indeed, to be trespassing unnecessarily on the attention of
the House, by repeating those feelings of approbation which
seemed to be expressed on all hands. He (Sir F. Burdett) was
in a situation something like the man who was reproached
at a public meeting at Rome, while panegyrising Hercules ;
he was cut short by a person exclaiming, " Who has
found fault with him ?"—(Laughter.) In the present
instance they had even the panegyric of the lion. Mem-
ber for Middlesex, and which even outweighed whatever
anybody else had said of the Right lion. Gentleman.
Upon this question no man could be a competitor of the
Right Hon. Gentleman, for this great circumstance, that
no other person had the advantages of long experience
that he possessed. It would be unbecoming in him (Sir
Francis Burdett) to take up the time of the House
further than to state the gratification and the honour
which he felt at having to second the nomination of the
Right Hon. Gentleman, and he hoped the House would
not lose the present opportunity of doing justice to them-
selves and him by electing him.—(Cheers.)
Mr. LITTLETON entreated the indulgence of the
House while he expressed himself in regard to a question
which materially concerned himself.—(Hear.) He would
have been gratified if any representations which he could
make had prevailed on his Hon. Friend not to have placed
him in competition with one, whose sixteen years' expe-
rience in that House, and whose while conduct during
that period, bad so justly and so universally endeared him
to all with whom he bad been in connection.—(Hear,
hear.) He was satisfied that his Right Hon. Friend had
never been, at any period, since he (Mr. Littleton) had the
honour of seconding his nomination in the year 1817, and
that he never would be, at any future period, if he should
he re-elected, a timid asserter of the just rights and privi-
leges of Parliament.—(Hear.) It was on the nature of
the Right Hon. Gentleman's past services that his pre-
sent claims were founded for the renewal of those ser-
vices. On this and on all occasions, in a House of Corn•
mono which contained so many new Members, it was
highly important that they should have a gentleman
to preside in the chair as Speaker, who was used to the
laws and usages of the House, and whose example of
great patience and urbanity had been the theme of general
admiration.—(Hear.) He would now merely entreat of
his Honourable Friend (Mr. Hume), that having availed
himself of that form to which he was justly entitled, he
would concur in what appeared to be the almost unani-
mous feeling of the House, by placing the Right Honour-
able Gentleman (Mr. Manners Sutton) in the Chair.--
(Cheers.)

Mr. O'CONNELL hoped the Honourable Member for
Middlesex would not withdraw his motion. The ques-
tion was one of very great importance ; and this was only
another instance of paltry truckling of the present Ad-
ministration. He could not concur with the Right Ho-
nourable Baronet in thinking that the two gentlemen were
nearly alike ; the distinction was between a gentleman of
Tory principles, and one of Reform principles. He fully
admitted the great talents possessed by the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman, and his capacity as Speaker of
an unreformed House of Commons. He (Mr.
O'Connell) could never fail to remember, tbat
when he first became a Member of the House, be
was assailed by both parties in the House, and he did
not find that support and protection from the Right Hon.
Gentleman which he had expected ; for while he was
being attacked on all sides, he was cut short in his expla-
nation ; but he would forget that, in consequence of the
subsequent information which the Right lion. Gentleman
had afforded him in his Parliamentary carter. Again he
would say, be saw no objection to the Right Hon. Gentle-
Mila as tipeaker of an unreformed House of Commons;

tion, to get rid of the Tory faction. The House of
Commons was about, as the first step to the extinc-
tion of Toryism, to place in its Chair a Tory ; Con-
servatives were about to swell the Ministerial majority,
which was to rejoice the Jews of the Stock Exchange,
to-morrow, by cresting a rite of two or three per cent. itt
the funds.—(A laugh.) With respect to the laugh that
proceeded front the Treasury Bench, upon the Hon. Mento
her for Middlesex alluding to the point of economy in this
question, it should be remembered that it was that very
Treasury Bench that proposed the grant of 4,0001. per
annum to the Right Hon. Gentleman, with a reversion
of 3,000/. per annum on another life. This was a gross
abuse of the power of the House over the public purse ; and
Its trusted the time was not far distant when they should in-
quire as to the right of an unreformed House of Commons
to make large grants of money to its own Members,
But with respect to the saving of the pension, as the law
►tood, the Right Hon. Gentleman would be entitled
both to the salary and pension. He did not doubt that
the Right Hon. Gentleman is ould give up his pension, if
elected, but still he was entitled to it; so that those who
second the Hon. Member for Middlesex do not show any
want of economy. He protested, therefore, against this
relapse into Toryism, carried by a Conservative
majority.—(Hear, hear, bear.) He would venture.
to prophecy that this would not be the last time the
House would see such a combination to resist principle.
" Coming events cast their shadows before."
Perhaps, there was solid foundation for the reports
that had gone abroad upon the subject of combinations;
and, perhaps, this was one of the first steps to be token
in pursuance of the determination of Noble Lords and
Gentlemen opposite to render this a final measure.
Lord EBRINGTON regretted that the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman had made the reflections he had upon the
connections of the Right Hon. Gentleman proposed, for
it could not affect his qualifications for the office.—( Hear,
hear, bear.) The Noble Lord then bore testimony to the
ability, fairness, and candour with which the Right Hon.
Gentleman proposed had presided in the Chair for sixteen
years.

Mr. TENNYSON said he had never felt himself in a
situation of greater embarrassment since he had had the
honour of a seat in this House. He would not support
the motion of the Hon. Member for Middleex, because,
although he agreed it was desirable to have a Speaker en-
tertaining sentiments in accordance with those of the
people, yet those of the Right Hon. Member for Staf-
fordshire, he thought, were not entirely in accordance
with those of the majority of the people.—(A laugh.)
Ile wished to know how it happened that they had
not had the opportunity of choosing such a per-
son, for no one yet knew the sentiments of the Right Hon.
Member for Cambridge, whose elevation to a scat in the
other House, he should like ere this to have heard
of. He wished to know whether the Ministers of
the House bad presumed, as was said in the rumours al-
luded to by the Honourable Member for Dublin (Mr.
O'Connell) to negotiate with any one as to who
should sit in the Chair of that free House.—(Hear.) He
did not place faith in the rumours, for if he did, he should
be obliged to withdraw from them that general support
which it was otherwise his intention to give them. He
hoped to have a disclaimer of the truth of those
rumours from his Majesty's Ministers.—(Hear, hear.)
The Right Hon. Gentleman had his unbounded approba-
tion, and he would vote for him, but he still regretted that
his Majesty's Ministers had thought it their duty not to
take another way of providing for him.
Lord ALTHORP said his Majesty's Government was
charged with using undue influence; but as far as he was
concerned, he believed, no influence at all had been used.
He was ready to admit that, when he found that the Right
Hon. Gentleman had been returned as a Member of Par.
!lament, and having had so much experience of his ad-
mirable conduct in the Chair, knowing, as he did, that
that Right Hon. Gentleman was, as far as experience
went, better fitted than any other Member for the Speaker.
ship, he did at once make up his mind to support him.
Looking at the Hon. Member for Staffordshire as
an untried man, he was free to say he was perfectly qua-
lified to fill the Chair with great benefit to the House,
and honour to himself ; but it was impossible to put him,
in respect of fitness for the Speakership, in competi •
tion with the Right Hon. Gent. On these grounds, no-
thing could influence him to vote for hint, in opposition to
a Gentleman of such experience. After the Right Hon.
Gentleman's return, he (Lord Althorp) had written to him,
asking whether, in the event of his being elected to fill the
Chair, he would have any objection to take upon himself
the office, and telling him, if so, lie would have his sup
port, and this was what was called dictating to the House.
He trusted that the measures which his Majesty's Govern.
ment intended to introduce, would meet with the con-
currence of the House. The Honourable Member for
Dublin had taunted him with having said that the
Reform Bill was a final measure. But he wanted to know
what was a final measure ? he bad always considered, and
in that he perfectly agreed with the Hon. Member for
Middlesex, that that Bill was a means to an end—(Cries
of " Hear ")—as a means by which other improvements
might be effected. He had been entirely misrepresented by
the Hon. Member when he was said to have called it a final
measure, and that he was opposed to any of the measures which
would naturally spring from that Bill. He had said that the
Bill, so far as Reform in the constitution of that House
was concerned, he hoped would be final. He would give
his vote to the Right Hon. Gentleman, entirely on the
ground of his fitness for the office. The only objection
to the Right Hon. Gentleman seemed to be, that in politics
lie was opposed to the present Government and the ma-
jority of the House; and the Hon. Member for Middlesex
had said that this was the first occasion on which such an
anomaly had been seen. He would only instance the
last Parliament, when the same Right Hon. Gentleman
was under similar eircutnstances unanimously elected
to the Chair. At that time he was certainly as much op.
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hie Member was mistaken, for as he (Lord Althorp)
understood the law, whenever the Right Hon. Gentle-
man re•accended the Chair, the pension granted him
would be suspended. Some of the former speakers had
argued as if the Hon. Gentleman had reigned the Chair,
and was no longer Speaker after the prorogation. Such
was not the fact. He continued Speaker up to the disso-
lution. However, at present he hoped the House would
come to a speedy and unanimous decision.
Mr. WARBURTON and Mr. CORBETT rose together.
The cries for Mr. Cohbett were very numerous, and the

former gentleman gave way.
Mr. COBBETT then said, the Hon. Members who
had preceded him on this question had wholly mistaken
the case. The real question was wholly thrown out of
their calculations. What he considered the real ques-

tion to be, was, not that they were to please

themselves in the choice they were about to wake,
hut, what would the people think of the prson
whom they placed in the Chiir ? They were now

about to select one from among themselves. When they
ba'l agreed upon him, and placed him in the Chair, they
said to the people that that was the best man amongst
them.—(A laugh.) Now if they placed a man in
the Chair who, for such a length of time, had
been feeding upon the people, what would be sail
out of the House of such a choice ? Surely they would

have but a poor opinion of the Reformed House of Coin-
mon4, if it were to be said, that the Right Hon. Gentle-
man was the best man in it. He would come to the law
,f the case as regarded the pension bye and bye. He
had no doubt that there were lawyers present, and that
there were merchants present, who were perfectly aware
that the business of the Honse could be carried on by one-
tenth of the clerks and clerks' as'istants, and all the

other officers that the Speaker had to assist him, in
what was called his arduous duty. It had been a con-
etant cry, and was repeated that night, that the Right
Honourable Gentleman had done much. Allowing that

he had,-
hadiie not been well paid for it?—(Hear,
bear,) Had he not been receiving much more than
the President of the United States? And all that for the
sixteen years during which it was said he had worked so
much ? He would ask, had the House any right
to saddle the country with a greater salary to the
Speaker of the House, than was paid to the President of
the whole United States? But the whole thing
wis a nest of infamy. What with the Speaker, Chief
clerks, deputy clerks, sergeants, and other officers belong-
ing to the House, it cost more than the whole of the Civil
Government of the United States, including the salaries of
the ten Ambassadors they sent to Europe. He then called
on the House to take into consideration what the people
had said, for many years past, upon pensions. He knew
much of the petitions that had been sent to that House for
the last twenty-five years. There was the Right Ho-
nourable Baronet, the Member for Westminster, be-
hind him, who bad in that time presented hun-
dreds of petitions, and he would defy him to say that
in any one, calling for Parliamentary Reform, the great
reason assigned for it was not pensions granted for un-
merited services. It was easy for Hon. Gentlemen to
talk, for it was an ascertained fact, and, by consulting
Cocker for only a few minutes, the case would be demon-
strated, that the rich hail taxed the poor forty times more
than they had done themselves. Now were they to
tell them (the people) that the man who had
4,0001. a-year secured for his own life and the
sante sum during the life of his son—that a man
who had thus received upwards of 100,0001. of the
people's money, and who, in the natural calculations of
human life, sehight receive hundreds of thousands more—
were they to tell the people, the overtaxed people, that
this was the only man in that House who was fit to pre-
side over its debates ? Were they to tell the people, who
were in a state of starvation, which must he seen to he be-
lieved, that they were to expect no relief, which would, in
effect, be done by placing such a man in that chair ?
The Noble Lord had entirely mistaken the meaning of the
Act of Parliament. It was a pension of 4.0001. a-year
for life to the late Speaker himself, and of 3,0001. a year
to his heir male; there would require another Act ot Par-
liament before this could he rescinded. How much honesty,
moderation, and mercy towards the people was them in
the matter ? But then the Noble Lord thought it would
cease. No, it would not cease. What was the actual
situation at the present moment in which they stood ?
Why, if the Right Hon. Gentleman was reelected, and
he knew nothing of his qualifications, for he bad never
been bins in his chair—(A laugli)—it could not be un-
done ; and immediately on his appointment be might go
end sell his annuity for life.—(Hear.) Would the House
be party to an imposition so flagrant towards the people?
Was this the way they were going to take the leaves out of
the accursed Red Book? Why it was the moat effectual
way to introduce new leaves into it.—( Hear.) He
thought there was sonic weight in the observations of the
lion. Member for Middlesex; but he objected to the re-
election, on the ground that it was a declaration of war
against the people of this kingdom.
Mr. WARBURTON sail the different qualifications of
the gentlemen proposed to fill the Chair were undoubtedly
to be considered. It their merits were equal on both sides,
the House ought to give the preference to that gentleman
whose political opinions agreed most nearly with the ma-
jority. He did not think it an unimportant thing to say
of the person who was raised to that Chair, " This is the
man whom the people delight to honour." Ile rose simply
lir the purpose of stating that the House had never, on
former occasions, granted a pension to a retiring Speaker
until the period when he had actually ceased to fill the
Chair, and should that Right Hon. Gentleman be raised
again to the Chair, the least be expected was to hear
that either his Majesty's Government, or some Hon.
Member would make the motion that the vote of the
House in granting the pension should be rescinded at the
earliest possible period in the present Session ; so that
the House might still have a proper security in its own
hands, by not voting a pension till the final retirement.
The Noble Lord has said that ceteris paribus the House
ought to elect him with whose political opinions it
most nearly coincided. Now, from the experience which
he had of the conduct, in that Chair, of the Right Hon.
Gentleman, he was quite willing to pay him that com-
pliment which his merits deserved ; but, on an occasion
like the present, they were expected to unbosom them-
selves with perfect candour, and he was determined to do
so. He would observe, that not only were mental, but
even physical, qualifications necess iry to be considered ;
and he stated with plainnes', that many occasions
had arisen, when he observed the extreme illness of
the Right Hon. Gentleman while filling the Chair. He
entertained the strongest doubts whether his strength was
sufficient to go through those snore than ordinarily ardu-
ous duties now to be required, of the Speaker of that
House ; and, therefore, in balancing the merits of the two
Hon. Gentlemen, he considered that the Hon. Member
for Staffordshire, being more vigorous in health,
would be more competent to fulfil the duties of the
office. If, however, the Right Hon. Gentleman was re-
elected, it would be his duty to bring forward a motion
for rescinding the pension granted in the former Parlia-
ment to the Right Hon. Gentleman, until his retirement
from office.
Mr. C. M. SUTTON then rose, but spoke in so low
a tone of voice that it was with great difficulty thathe was
heard in the gallery. He presented himself to the
House under considerable embarrassment on the present
occasion. It was, however, a great gratification to him
to hear even from Hon. Gentlemen opposite, and from all
who had spoken, the compliments (as we umlerstood)
which had been bestowed upon him. It was hie duty,
under all circumstances, to submit himself implicitly to
the opinion of the House. No one could feel more deeply,
he had almost said more painfully, the difficulties belong.
ing to the high situation of filling that Chair. But he
owed ton much to their kindness to hesitate for one instant
to obey the commands of the House, in again undertaking
the trust, if it was their pleasure to replace hiai in it.
--(Hear, hear.) Among the qualifications which be-
longed necessarily, or at least ought to belong necessarily
to the Speaker of that House, no one was more im-
portant, and he trusted he could appeal to the House
that he was not wanting in it, than strict im-
partiality. Indeed, he confessed that it was a diffi-
culty to his understanding to draw a line of dis-
tinction between honesty and strict impartiality, and
he hoped that he had succeeded in blending them
together, and that the majority of those with whom
be had had the honour to act for six successive Parlia-
ments would do him that justice. Having said so much,
he would only add, that if it should be the pleasure
of the House to elect his Hon. Friend the Member
for Staffordshire, whatever assistance his sixteen years'
experience could afford should willingly be given him, and
every Member of that House. If it should be the pleasure
of the House to re-elect him to the high honour, he had
only to say, as be had done before, that he would exert
his best endeavours to discharge his duty to the House—
to the country—and, they would permit him to say, as an
honest man, to bienself.—(Hear, hear, and cries of
" Question," and " Clear the gallery.")
The Reuse was about to divide, when
Mr. METHUEN observed, that the statement made by
the Honourable Member for Middlesex, that if the Hon.
Gentleman were re-elected he would continue to receive
a pension of 4,0001., in addition to his salary as Speaker,
bad not been fairly answered. Standing there as a re-
presentative of the people, he thought it his duty to call
upon the Government to sive a satisfactory explanative

upon that point. He admitted that the Eight Non. (ien•
tleman possessed all the qualifications which were
claimed for him, and would therefore be sorry to vote
against him ; but he could not conscientiously give any
vote Which would enable the Right Honourable Member
to receive a retiring pension of 4,0001. a-year, as well as
a salary of 6,0001. There had already been an opportunity
for the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, and
for the Right Hon, Gentleman himself, to afford an ex-
planation upon this point, but none had been given. It
would be more for the credit of the Government, for the
credit of the House, and of the Right Honourable Gentle-
man himself, and he well knew it would he more satis-
factory to the country, to have this point clearly under-
stood bdfore the House went to a vote.—( Hear. )
Mr. MANNERS SUTTON hoped that the House
would permit him to make a short statement with refe-
rence to the subject alluded to by the Honourable Member.
He believed it to be impossible that an individual occupy-
ing the Chair could he entitled to a single shilling voted as
a retiring pension.—(Hear.) That he believed to have
been the intention of the Legislature when it passed tl.e
Act of last Session ; but whatever the intention of the
Legislature might have been, and whatever might he the
legal construction of the Act, it was his firm determina-
tion not to receive one farthing of the pension whilst he
had the honour to fill the chair.

Major BEAUCLERK thought the Speaker's sshry
ought to be reduced, and was proceeding to address the
House on the subject, when he was reminded that the
House could not then entertain the subject.
. .

The gallery was then cleared for a division, when there
appeared for
Mr. Littleton
Against 1Irn

Majority

When the gallery was recpened
Mr. COBBETT was addressing the House. He ob•
served that the whole country would condemn the re-
election of the Right Hon. Gentleman. The Right Hon.
Gentleman said that he had been Speaker for 16 years.
Ay, and he was something before that ; almost from his
very infancy he had been receiving money, in seme shape or
other, out of the public purse. This was the man whom
the House were de'ermined to elect as their Speaker.
Farmers were accustomed to judge or the sack by the
sample, and what a sack must that be of which the Right
Genleman was the sample.—(A laugh.) Such as
the Right Hon. Gentleman was the whole of the represen-
t etives of their own breeches pockets would be found—all
putting their hands in the peopit's pockets, as they did in
the old unreformed Parliament, and taking from them as
much money as they could get. The decision of the
House with respect to the question before them would de-
cide their character with the people. He felt it to be his
•luty to offer as much opposition as possible to the election
of the Right lion. Gentleman. His opposition might be
unavailing, but that was of no consequence to him.
Mr. FAITHFUL said he had come into the House
with the determination to support the nomination of the
Right Honourable Gentleman ; but lie roust confess, that
in consequence of what he had head during the discus-
sion, he could not conscientiously give the least counte-
nance to his election. The House must he aware that
there existed at that moment an Act of Parliament which
secured to the Speaker a pension of 4,0001. It was true
the Right Hon. Gentleman had stated his determina-
tion not to avail himself of the benefit conferred upon him
by that Act ; but surely the House must perceive that the
decision of this question ought not, for a variety of con-
siderations, to be left to the decision of the Right Hon.
Gentleman himself. He, therefore, asked the Ministers
now present, and he trusted that they would give a
pointed and explicit answer to the question, whether, in
the event of the late Speaker being again elevated to the
Chair, they would solemnly pledge themselves to bring in
a bill for the express purpose of repealing and extinguish-
ing his Pension Act. If Ministers would not do that, he
must oppose the election of the Right Hon. Gentleman.
SIR F. BURDETT thought that the Hon. Member

for Brighton had put forward one of the most extraordi
nary points he had ever heard—(Cheers)—nothing more
nor less than asking them to pledge themselves to bring
in a Bill in order to repeal the Act by which the
late Speaker was given a pension of 1,000/. a-year,
if he again took the Chair. Ministers had given their
opinions upon that Act, and the Right Hon. Gentle-
man had done the same ; and those opinions, he (Sir F.
Burdett) should have thought would have been satisfactory
to the moat unreasonable man. The public would save
not a farthing of that pension, unless the Right Honour-
able Gentleman was re-elected to the Chair.—(Hear,
hear.) If economy was of the slightest benefit in the
world, all the arguments which had been used would have
a contrary effect to that given them by the Hon. Member.
He disliked such a twopence-halfpenny principle of eco-
nomy. No Parliament, he would venture to say, would
repeal the Act giving Mr. Manners Sutton a pen-
sion of 4,0001. a year. It had been hardly earned,
for no man could say that sixteen years' service such
as the Right Hon. Gentleman had performed, was not
worth such a remuneration.—(Cheers.) He should like
to see some of those lion. Gentlemen who held the duty
of Speaker so cheaply, and thought that he was so much
i,verpaid, try the experiment of filling the Chair.—(A
I iugh.) He wondered whether if they were placed in the
same situation as the Right Hon. Gentleman with a half
or a quarter of his salary, or with no salary at all, the
public would be equally set ved.—(Hear, and a laugh.)
Was it likely that, under such circumstances, the public
buisness would be facilitated, and carried on so advan-
tageously, as it was under the direction of a gentleman so
accomplished for that purpose as the Right Hon. Gentle-
man ? Again he begged to assure the Hon. Member for
Brighton that the only possible means of effecting a saving
of the pnblie money was by re-electing the Right Hon.
Gentleman as Speaker.
Mr. WARBURTON said that there were two points
for the consideration of the House. The first was,whether
'he Right Hon. Gentleman, in the event of his being
re-elected, could receive the pension voted him in the last
Parliament, together with his salary of Speaker. This
question, whatever might be its merits in a legal point of
view, he considered as definitively settled by the declara-
tion of the Right Hon. Gentleman that he would not re-
cvive the pension even if the Act admitted of such an
interpretation as to allow him to do so.—(Hear, hear.)
There, however, remained another question ; he thought
•he precedent of voting a retiring pension before the
final retirement of the Speaker a dangerous one. What
was to prevent a Minister hereafter from proposing a pen-
sion to a Speaker for services performed, whilst he in-
tended still to retain the Chair ? He felt it his duty to
object to the establishment of that precedent, though,
from what he knew of the Right Hon. Gentleman's cha-
racter, he was fully assured that his conduct would not
vary a tittle in consequence of having his pension secured
:o him.—(Hear. hear.) The House had hitherto been
accustomed to retain in their own hands a security for the
conduct of the Speaker, by not voting his pension until
be retired. He took the same view of the question as
the Hon. Member for Brighton did, and he hoped that
lion. Members would make up their minds to vote for
the repeal of the late Speaker's Pension Act during the
present Session.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that he had no diffi-
culty in stating that the Right Hon. Gentleman could not
be entitled to receive his pension of 4,000/., together with
his salary of 6,000/. as Speaker. He had looked to the
Act, and found that the payment of the pension was to
commence when the Right Hon. Gentleman should cease
to be Speaker. The Right Hon. Gentleman ceased to be
Speaker for many purposes when Parliament was dis-
solved, but for other purposes he continued to be Speaker
until his successor should be elected. There was an Act
of Parliament which stated that he should be considered
as continuing to be Speaker till another Speaker was
elected. For the purpose of receiving his salary, there-
fore, the Right Hon. Gentleman was still Speaker.
Mr. O'CONNELL was free to admit that the Learned
Gentleman's conclusion was perfectly just, if his premises
were admitted valid. But he could not admit their vali-
dity, for he had yet to learn how there could be a Speaker
io a Parliament not in existence.—(Hear.) Were they to
understand from the Learned Gentleman that at a disso-
lution every circumstance connected with the practical
existence and privileges of the House of Commons was at
an end,—or at least in abeyance—excepting the office of
the Speaker ? And yet the Learned Gentleman's doc-
trine was, if it meant anything, to that effect. For his
own port, he knew of no Act of Parliament which pre-
served the political existence of the Speaker during the
dissolution of the Parliament.
Lord ALTHORP—The Learned Member for Dublin
must be aware, that though, in the case of the demise of
the Crown, the Parliament is constitutionally defunct, yet
the Speaker continues to receive his salary and exercise
the privileges of his office, till the appointment of his
successor in a new Parliament.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. O'CONNELL—Yes; but in that case Parliament
itself, by express statute, also preserves its existence under
certain conditions of time and circumstances.—(Hear.)
Mr. HUME—The Learned Solicitor-General's argu-
ment would obtain, if either he or the Noble Lord could
show a single case in which a Speaker of that House re-
ceived salary for a period during which Parliament was in
a state of dissolution. The Hon. Member for Brighton's
question, therefore, in the absence of the proof of such
a case, was well deserving the attention of the House ;
nor, indeed, could be see any valid objection that could

he raised to i 4 being explicitly answered. Let them
consider the force of the question. At present, if the
Right Hon. Gents man (Mr. M. Sutton) be elevated
.to
the Chair without a revision of the Act conferring on him

a pension, he would be placed in a position so wholly in-
dependent of the esteem and good-will of that House, that,
supposing his conduct should be of such a character as to
compel the House to expel him from his office, he could fall
hack upon his pension, wholly regardless of the House's cen-
sure or reluctance to appropriate the public money to the
payment of that pension. By a Statute of the Le_ islature,
the flight Hon. Gentleman was entitled to a pension of
4.0001., from the moment he ceased to preside in that House,
and no mere declaration of any Minister could counteract that
statute. The Noble Lord might express in that House his
reluctance to propose a vote for the payment of the pension
under the supposed case just put by him (Mr. Hume),
but a Court of Law would soon convince him that only an
express statute of the Legislature could repeal or modify
one of its own solemn acts. The House, therefore, should
pause ere it re-elected the Right lion. Gentleman, and
should bear in min I that it was suddenly
called upon to
elect a man who was, as a pensioner of the State, wholly
independent of the people and their representatives. He
trusted, therefore, the first act of a Reformed Parliament
would not be the establishing of a precedent so bad in
principle as that of electing to their Chair a gentleman
who was above the need of adapting his conduct to the
obtaining of their approbation.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon.
Member for Brighton was right, therefore, in asking Mi-
nisters whether they intended to bring forward a Bill for
repealing the Speaker's Salary Act of last Session, and
placing the Right Hon. Gentleman where he was before
the passing of that Act—namely, dependent upon his own
good conduct far the reward which Parliament was wont
to confer upon those who honestly and ably discharged the
important duties attached to the Chair of that House. He
(Mr. Hume) for one would not have permitted that Pen-
sion Act to have passed that House if he could have anti-
cipated a case like the present. Indeed, the principle of
electing a person over whose conduct they possessed no
efficient control to their Chair was so objectionable that
Hon. Gentlemen, he was convinced, would not for a
moment assent to the motion till Ministers had announced
their intention to repeal an Act which thus placed the
individual candidate above their control.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL would admit that the
Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) was perfectly correct in stat-
ing that no mere declaration of a Minister could reverse
the provisions of a legislative enactment, but he more than
questioned the accuracy of the Hon. Gentleman's interpre-
tation of the Speaker's Pension Act of the last Parlia-
ment. He would take it upon him to declare that that
Act most explicitly provided that the pension should not
be paid till the Right llsn. Gentleman bad ceased to be
Speaker, and he would further take it upon him to declare
that the Right Hon. Gentleman w,v, by the laws passed
for regulating the office and salary of the Speaker, actually
Speaker of the House of Commons, and as.such entitled
to receive the salary attached to the office till withiu the
last few hours—in point of fact, till the commencement
of the present discussion. No Hon. Member could deny
that in the event of the demise of the Crown, though the
Parliament was virtually dissolved, the Speaker continued
to receive his salary and exercise the functions of his office
till a successor had been appointed in the new Parliament;
and no Hon. Member, who carefully read the Act which
thus continued his salary could deny that Mr. Manners
Sutton was entitled to receive, at the, quarter-day, the
salary of Speaker, till, as he had stated, the very few last
hours.—(Hear.) Besides, the letter, no less than the
spirit, of the Act of last Session, expressly provided that
the pension should not come into operation till the Right
Hon. Gentleman had entirely ceased to exist as Speaker--
that it, the Right Hon. Gentleman bad not more than
some two hours' claim to his pension.—( Hear.)
Mr. HUME—Did the Learned Gentleman mean to say
that the Right Hon. Gentleman could, during the present
quarter, demand his salary as Speaker and his retiring
pension also ; or that he could not claim both ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—The fair interpreta-
tion of the Act was, that the salary and pension could not
co-exist in the same quarter. The Right lion. Gentle-
man did not, on the sth of January (the last quarter-day),
demand his pension.—(Hear.)
Mr. O'CONNELL—Very well ; but has he not also
not demanded his salary ?
The ATTORNEY GENERAL bad already explained
that the quarter-day fell within the period during which
the Right Hon. Gentleman was entitled to receive his
salary as Speaker.
An Home. MEMBER was understood to be altogether
opposed to the re-election of Mr. Manners Sutton to the
Chair.

- _
The SOLICITOR- GENERAL begged leave, fur the
information of the House, and to put an end altogether to
the legal cavils of the Hon. and Learned Member for
Dublin, to read from the Act for regulating the salary of
Speaker, which he held in his hand, the provisions under
which, in the event of a dissolution of Parliament, the in-
dividual holding that office was entitled to receive the
salary attached to it " till a Speaker is chosen in the new
Parliament."—( Hear, hear.) Under this provision,
therefore, Mr. Manners Sutton, the Speaker of the last
Parliament, is, and will be, entitled to his salary till his
successor be appointed—(Hear)—and, under the provisions
of the Act of last session, by being thus entitled to his
salary, he is not, and cannot he, entitled to claim or re-
ceive his retiring annuity.—(Hear, hear, and Enough.)
The question was then put by the clerk —" That the
Right Hon. Charles Manners Sutton do take the chair of
this House as Speaker—(Great cheers, and about 5 or 6
" Noes"), and was agreed to with all but unanimous ac-
clamation.
The Right Hon. Gentleman was accordingly led to the
chair by Lord Morpeth and Sir F. Burdett, his proposer
and seconder.
The SPEAKER then addressing the House from
the Chair, said—ln expressing to the House my thanks
for the honour it has done me, in placing me for the
seventh time in this Chair, I have only to hope that by
constant attention to their rights and privileges, by an ad •
herence to the rules and orders under which the business
can be conducted beneficially for the public, by the utmost
courtesy to every Member of the House, by readiness to
afford every information I possess, and to give every facility
to the transactio❑ of business in my power, I shall be
fortunate enough to acquire the same confidence from this
House which I have had the good fortune to enjoy from
its six predecessors.—(Cheers.)
Lord ALTHORP, in rising to move that the House,
at its rising, do adjourn to Thursday next, congratulated
the Speaker, and observed that it must be satisfac
tory to him, that during the discussion that had taken
place, although some doubts had been expressed as to
the propriety of electing a Speaker whose political
• sentiments differed from those which it was supposed
the majority of the House entertained, no one acquainted
with his conduct in the Chair had expressed any apprehen -
sion of his conduct being different to the minority to what
it was to the majority of the House. For his (Lord Al-
thorp's) part, he bore most cordial testimony to the fact
of the Speaker having acted in just the same manner
towards the minority as towa•ds the majority of the
House, and be begged to assure Members who had not bad
the same experience as himself, that there was not
occasion to apprehend the inconvenience they supposed
might arise from having a Speaker in the Chair,
who differed in his political sentiments from the majority of
that House.
After a few words from Mr. COBBETT, which were
lost in the confusion of Members leaving the House,
the question was put and carried, and the House adjourned
at 6 o'clock.

LIST OF THL
OF THIRTY-ONE, WHO VOTED TU.
FOR STAFFORDSHIRE, SHOULD
INS EAD OF THE IV GUT 110 N. CI
Baldwin, Dr. H.—Cork City
Beauclerk, A. W.—East Surrey
Bowes, John—South Durham
Buiwer, E. L.—Lincoln
Butler, Hon. Y.—KilkennyCobbeet,
Dykes, F. L. B.—Cockermouth
Ewart, %V.—Liverpool
Faithful, G.—Brighton
Fielden, W. J.—Blackburn
Gaskell, Daniel—Wakefield
Grote, George—London
Hume, Joseph—Middlesex
Butt, Wm.—Kingston-on-Hull
Kinloch, George—Dundee
Lloyd, J. H.—Stockport
Lynch, A. H.—Galway

E MINORITY
AT E. I. LITTLETON, TILE MEMBER
TAKE THE Cli•IR OP THE HOUSE
;VARIES MANNERS SUTTON.

Nagle, Sir R.—Westmeath
O'Connell, Daniel—Dublin
O'Connell, Maurice—Tralee
O'Connell, Morgan—Meath
O'Connell, John—Youghall
Potter, Richard—Wigan
Roche,
`Roe,
James—Cashell
Roebuck, J. A.—Bath
Romilly, William—Bridport
Strutt, E.—Derby
Sutton, Rt. Hon. C. M.—Cam-
bridge University
Vigors, N. A.—Carlow

TELLER.
Warburton, H.—Bridport

A petition to the Commons is in preparation
at Birmingham i❑ favour of a Triennial Bill and the Bal-
lot. The public opinion of the majority of the inhabi-
tants of this town has been so frequently and decidedly
expressed, it was not deemed expedient to convene a public
meeting.—Birmingham ✓ournal.

Yesterday the despatches for Bombay and
China, by the ship Thames, Captain J. R. PIDDING,
were close,' at the East India House, and delivered to the
purser of that ship.

•
IRISH HABITS OF BUSINESS.—.The pro-
prietor of the Munster Journal, a recently revived paper
in Limerick, states that he " is painfully obliged to
suspend its publication for some time, in consequence of
the gross neglect of some and the inebriety of others
employed in his office."