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London, England, 1802-03-24 00:00:00

iNMA.

Me JONES aid,,, he ha,d stated to the I-louse
in June last, that he should bring forwird a Mo
tionteleive to the affairs of Xndist_tt He herd wait-
ed, however, for the precerKe ofTi lion. Gentle_
man who' had, he believfd, -been only -once in
his place this Session, but the information, Which
had been lately received from that quarter—
The SPEAKER Old,- he-Oust re:6lll' ar-Theltt
tention of the Rouse, the pra&ice which had been
adopted of confining an Hon. Member giVitig 110tACC..
of a notion, strictly to that .nokicel
Mr. JONES
.then was his 4vish to bring
forward a. Motion relative .to the FOlyeas War,,on
that day fortnight (next TuesdAy week). .-
TRtATIN,G ACT.
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Lord BELGIt Ai'. a brought up the Treating At't
Bill—which was read a .first
On the question for the second reading?
Mr. CORRY said, he did. not .wish to- take up
the time,of the House, but he observed that-the
Bill only extended to than pat rot the—Uniteel-King--
dom called Great Britain? and did not; 'extend .to
Ireland. He should only Say that he thought it
would be necessary to turn their.agiention to' this
subjea, and to consider whether the-plavisions of
the Bill should not be extended t6' Ireland. He
should not now give an opinion ittpon ;.*_subjen,
as he merely wished. 'to call the attention of the
House to it. If the LawS relatiye subjea
were to continue in Ireland on the saine footing a$
they were before, it might be an_aukward circum..
tance for different decision; to take place relative
to Eleaions in Great Britain and Eleaions in Ire,-
land. He merely threw this out for-the considera-
tion of the Howe.
The Bill was then ordered trr beread--a -second
tirne, and p -be printed.

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• •
CIVIL LIST..
Tke CHANCELLOR ej tke EXCHE QU E R
said, that understanding several MemberS of the
House .were of .opinion., that the intervening time
between the delivery of the printed Copie4. of- the
Report relative to the Civil List, and Friday,
vas insufficient for the proper - consideration of
that Report, fie thought it,adv sable, to Cxtena
the notice he 'had given relative to that subjeft,
:and:to give notice that he should? On'Mpt?day next,
Move to refer the'Report.to the Conamiftee of Sup:
ply. He must, he said,. fairly own, on looking
at the Report, that it required more time fir its
consideration ; and if he had heth • aware,of "that
circumstance,' he IS:mid have- prolv,ased'a longer
interval ; he should therefor...on Monday move to
refer it to the Committee of Supply. .

- GRENADA MERCHANTS.
Mr. 'Ann' GTON brought up a, Bill to extend the.,
time for the Payment of the Loan advanced to the
Merchants of Grenada, which was read a first time.'
On the question for the. second reading,
Mr. JONES wished to know whether this mea-
sure was consented to by His Majesty's Ministers.
He did not wish to oppose the second reading-, but
he thought, that ether persons t(i whom Loans
had been advanced, might apply for time on the same
ground.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, he was of opinion, that the time for the pay-
• ment of this,Loan ought to be. further extended un-
der all the circumstances. of
,difficulty pld..distt:ess in
which !these Islands were placed. There was evi-
dence before the House of the expediency and the
justice of a Wither' extension of the tithe. 1 He did
not think it a light matter to graqt a further exten-
slot) of the time—it was an intlulgencei' but he:
thought, that under the -ptessure And the difßulties.
in which the parties %vete:involve4, 40- made the,
application for such indulgence, that their applica-
tion. was deserving of. support.
After a .„few words from General GAScOT9,,
Mr. JoNrs in explanation, and'the CH:AN g fh L. LOR Of:
the EXCHEQUER in explanation„ who observed,
that the time to be granted would be a subje4 tors
discussion in the Committee, the B 4 was ordered;
to be read a second time, on Tuesday..,,,)
-• • • CORON,ERL •••

Mr. /1144/IYWAR/NG moved: the Order of the
Day for the second reading of the, Bill for increas,
iing the Fees, Rates of Allowance for Travellingt
Expences; &c. to CorOners._ The Ordev being
read, he moved, 4.‘ That this Bill he now, read, a,
,second time."
1141'. DICKINSON, jun. Was proceeding to oppose.
it, when • •
The SPEAKER suggested the propriety of-hear-:
ing the Hon. Gentleman who brought in the Bill •
in support of it,' first, as being consonant to prae..,
tice incases where there was a difference of opinion.
entertained ;• which course was adopted, according
to the recommendation from the Chair.
Arr. MAINWARING thenproceeded to state
the necessity of the measure nowbefore the House ;
the office of Coroner was highly important -to so-
ciety-7-they who filled it should be reasonably re-
warded for their labour. They had often indeed
the most important concerns to• conduti--inquiries
into murders.--lf, therefore, they were not fairly,
and reasonably rewarded, there was a want of po.:
licy in the State, nor would there be any volunteers
whose services were worth accepting. The Office
Of Coroner was an ancient offiee—it was originally
executed without money, but it was found neces-
sary to provide that some money should be allowed
to those who'executed the office, and that so,hing •
ggci as the reign of HEN VII. which continued
without alteration doWn to the 25th of • GEO.- 11.
When the Fees were fixt, and had remained unalter-
ed to the present hour, which was now upwards of •
fifty years. Now, comparing the rate of Fees of
all professional men, seeing how they had advanced
in that period, with those Fees which have been so
long stationary ; considering how much difference
there was made since that time in the price of
every thing, and mare particularly in travelling,
which had been doubled within these few years, and
which was a constant expense on a Coroner, he
trusted it would., appear to the House reasonable
that' some advancement should take place in the Al-
,. ces to be* mad to those who filled such im-
portant Offices.—.=-If a Coroner went from Town to
F Brompton, and took some refreshment on the road,
he could not return at less expense than a guinea,
whereas he Was allowed only 9d. per "rnitc it

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sent. The Coroner was also obliged to atte-
the Assizes and at the Quarter Sessions, "'bieh as wi.
attended with a considerable expence, which n'io'fa..
occur Zo the Committee to provide for, if it shoul6
be the 4en:;?, Of the fica. .ae to go
,iato is upon tie
Bill; but 'that was a matter upon. which he 'did no
think necessary to say much at present.,--4.1a'14
wade these general observatioos .UpDli the Bill,
ct} start or. say--7a-word or two for
se fa by way of- ,reason for the. part, he- took-ia
brie ing it forward, He knew no reason why le
MIT/We'person chbaerri3 Ares. era it to the'll
°6ses
but the application was :made to hiM, -and he bal
al4s)la thought it his duty
measure he was desired to do, provine:d' such a mei-
sure was not in itself ars improper .are ; he thought
thisaivas not-only not an improper measure, but ol'e
which was absolotely neeessary.—He knew than[Or,
to laring forward eartrY
nh eaCsoi
tunnattyi
•experice of' carrying it into effea must come 0.
t
admittcd- t°
on li,atetTleaabtdtotblel'aicrb he.
but this was a treasure of ile,cesitv—it was to OP'
port all /dice
rintimateirconneacd with rhe
rical excellence of our Cooitittlaion,
:ars office "c"4a
ought o be executed with attivity and NiZOllf, aalia
for which a liberal alloWance -ought Laa
fII e'
I,or thtae reasons he supported this Bill.
~addi 60;1'31 borthens,
Msa-73/C4/NSgis/ said, that the of ";
raotiaLtsaas an ancient and important Office wag P-ni:
propcsiiiort ,he assented to. That an additigr'9,l
burthen ,to the -County, dates would fall on
Oat was able to bear it, y:as.another
sitivri lie(-ss,seritcdto ; but that a fu: Cher renilmeta`;
tion ought to bemade by',the Public to those
filled the office 'of Cotoper;was a proposition sva-,.
he. did not agree By the Statute of Westmihste:
that OffiCe-was direaecf to -be executed by
whojit
soever ,to? 14- it, without Fee or Rewaral ant ;
was made, penal to receive any Fee at all. P
late:
subsequent . periods, too remarkable for deParl'ii
from those principles which had guided us
-Adfrlinistration 'of the Laws for so many cerao-eit:',
and which gained .us esteem for wisdom,
Tees crud OrLd Allowances were Made to Coroners.':
Jaaw'ertyshillipgS fo_a_lnquest upon Murder, Sire`:.
pence per Mile for Traveling,
proved of the principle of departingfrom oar anic-1
syStem in these cases. When toeta took tO r'lerPoi
selvei large landed possessions, the Chnstitati°lin•ca,
this Country imposed on them certain sloties r
they were to perfciam in their station in Socie'Acat
'the purposenf supporting the bartnonY of it, d
calling for pecupiary recompense. --f-TedisapPr%or
therefore of the principle of this he kr'v ;lc;
to what length it would go, for it was the ohara'•
of what was called Reformation, to have in its
those who wislito travel much further than was l'.n;
dertaken by hint who first went out oPon th
,e-3rlr
ney, and mach further than he either ioteh",,.``,,,se'
wished. if This • Bill was entertained, the' P(l.,a
would abandon -the great principle of Lefaislati°°,..,
had mentioned, and whicli he knew to be so irre'r
ant to pur Constitution ; there was always a clan sol
in-abandoning a geOeral principle,, for the s3kl3-t
'doing isrliat appeared to be Justice in soar; par tie° 1,6
case. If this Bill was to be entertained merelY °Lc,
ground that the office of Coroner was imP°ll4,:vaei
and that the allowance to those who tilled ittc, mt.
too small, that would lead the way, iterhao
entire change in the mode, not only of silk
_ ing the Laws', but of enaCting them ; for i!tlx.`4'saiSa
swas.tobe entertained on this foundation, the
trates,who attended the Quarter Sessions grattlitPutoe
administering a very- &*oisitlerable pant Of the Julfoti
-of the Country, might say, the ' Office thefe-hea
was imooltant, as most assuredly it was, anti ta. la
they. might come -to the conclusion of app:Y,lee',,,a,
Parliament for remuneration. Nor was th','that
'for Upon the 'same principle, the Members 4-'!.6jiati
House might very Justly say the office theY 'het
..4ha was important to the Publieaand that thereto end
..0 to have a remuneration, which he agreoa
to
-ed would a very iMproper principle whele rt of
proceed in this Country, --and yet to this 5°
those
rinciple did this Bill le;id. He thought that to at
- who brought forward this measure would :° it'
convinced of the propriety of not persistingl°o-anc
for it -might call on the Legislature. to ex3llo%a-
-the whole system upon' which. Fees were
ed to those who executed Offices like , of
and might lead, perhaps, to' the aboh(l°-fier4
them. altogether, and a recurrence to the an.
/
system
of gratuitous performance of these r
'aity.
duties. In point of faat, he doubted the neeelton•
of this measure, even in the sense in which the
~,SP
Member who brought it forward, applied 'tbface
far was it from being dangerous that the niaae,
would be deserted unless this allowance werealenge'
that the vacancies fur them were, to his kn° case9'
contested with great warmth, and, in tom shed 10
enormous expenee. For these reasons he d the
oppose the Bill. He saw no use in anow2nbin it'
Bill to go into a Committee, for the
filledßlan 'll'
if they 'were to be filled up at all, must he.1.5, iti
with sums of money to be allowed to CoNeatd, Ire
addition to what they have already. In aw-
olie,aed to the Bill, in taro. ruby
Mr. HOBHOUSE said, he was glad this -f or
had excited attention : he took the libertY of
ing, it was a matter of great importance, e agree'
the motion for leave to bring it forward. Fie to 6°-
that this was an Office of great consequence irody'
ciety. That it was in ancient times gra"' Itt 011!
executed by men. of great landed propertY it uEc
time, none under the 'rank of Knight toolc
himself, and he thought it would have hee'dieljitAle
to -keep it in that channel, for it was a ity,
thing that all those offices of pUblic neee,ssray t'
the -abuse of which large penalties are Pr°l;f those
tached, should be committed tO the charge
the
Whose possessions give ample security J°. en to- tei.
Merit of penalties, when any should hafl,'„ coo
incurred. He agreed; howeverer, that 'De ones
considerable fortune would mot take thereto leia•
they- must be entrusted-to persons of atit
coasiderable ; and if they would not rent alto
-out further remuneration than was at O
saw - eg
a Coronb;:eage;
by law, it must be increased ; but he • 01-
cessity for this, since whenever
became vacant, there appeared a conshlielrata vv
a.§ :e",
ness to fill it up, a course of thingsa,t was at r,s,
inconsistent with the idea that the °nice asate
sent intolerably burthensome. As the of . r st easli e'
ll'
therefore, not necessary for the wall-t o
gas no
to fill the Cdfiee," and as this measure ga

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tlrity for a more honotmble discharge ofits duties;•
4e, as one of the Guardians of. the. Public. Purse,
must protest against this Bill. :He then 'entered
into an enUmeration of some .of the advantages
which Were .supposed to 'attend the Office to those
Who usually• fi)ledir, who were commonly Profes-
sors of the LaW in some one or other of its branches,
and &liked; --A 'He went along, on some .of the
abuses to which the Office 'had been sometimes de-
graded ; 'for ivhicli reasons-he was decidedly against
the Bill:

Mr. BULLER expressed his opinion favourable
to the till, 'as a measure without which there was
no security for the due execution of the important
office of Curoner. • • --. •

Mr, ELL /SON said, that the maxim `.` T. 4
Labourer is worthy of his hire," was a just maxim.
But there .was -anothei equally true and .wise_.
" That we should be just before we were generou-."
There never was a vacancy for the-office of Coroner,
but the Candidates to fill if were numerous, and he
'Was sorry •to say, that the-canvassing for the office
Was sometimes marked, nok. only by enormous:ex-
Pences; but:disorder and ukOar,. and some other-of
the incotivenientes of .popular eledions ; some of
Which he understood to cost the.party toool,
Why then, . to give more money, for the, xecution
of such
sao office.
to give to those
'thus canvassedfor and sought, was
Rilto are contented already, and to
t.ae away. from those
urdens, which who are complaining of their
certainly was not following the '
maxim Of "Being „just. before' ive are generous.".
or these reasons he was against this Bill.
Mr. DICK INS thought the Bill ought to be
entertained, and was not aware the expence of car-
rYing it-into execution would be so large or so in-:
convenient as _some Honourable Gentlemen seemed
t° imagine ; nor was he convinced that. the office of
been
was so generally filled by Attornies as had
een insinuated, for in the whole County of North-
ampton there were but two of.that description. ' .
t 7'heSPEAKER reminded the Hon. Member, that
toe-Bill flow before the House .did not profess to re,
pllate the deicription of persons who should' fill .the
: ffice, but -the! amount .of allowance
,to defray the
xPence of it, ' This he did to. obviate the.incon-
'-ven';en6es which arose out of deviations from- the
N.l.estion in debate, -
Wir, n .
pri „' TIcx•ING respeftfully assented_ to the o-
•th:ril 43' the suggestion, and submitted to thepr zu.
probattZ_trhe Chair, and concluded with his ap„
Sir -w.l,‘- the Bill., .
theots
on
0ite,p130.1,111) was about to deliver his send-
. Col, po Ivowhen .
..
ed d kl.P, desired the House might be. count-
"ll there
adjo6ril being only 33 Members present, an
Half
luent took place' of course. This was about.
• Past •
tlx, o'clock, „._

Prom tLe
LONDON GAZETTE, March i3,.t80z.

. • tAitrhall, id trch 23, 'gat.
2:en,li r ,44 ha.s been pleased to present the Rev. --,--.-
Persialle to the Church and Parish of Applecross, in the
the. rY et Lochcarron, and County of Ross, vacant by
kr; ,Taxislation of the Rev. 'John Macqueen to the Church
parish of Ciairliiol.

' I;:i.i\WRUPTS. .
1111,i,,!1 4LOn PoWnoll now or late.. of Piccadilly, banker, to
R-"rrender4Mirch 27, at twelve, April 13, at eleven, and
aY 4, at' one, at Guildhalt; 'Attbruies, Messis. R. and
duke Shae,s,:l-0-dor..oreet, Blac.kfriars. . Stay::: y*of.llalifax„rneto4,nt., April tr, 22. and May
4,4 at eleveri • 'at ill' White Lion Halit'ax: Attornies., Mr. „_`-oulthursr,' ..BedfOrtb.row., • London. or Mr. • S wainsun,
111,1,4241'4x. .0
....... .
-,„,;'..iniel. Imes, late of Liverpool• faAor, April .9, T2l.,`!t
-vicven, arre'May 4. at-thide, at the'Crilfin Inn, Long mil-
'Ale, ,tvlirnetiester!, Aitornies, • !Jr; bar if .Of -(llithatn,
'44t:arillire \I , Wilson avid Broad, .131nm-street,* SonthWa" i°(
4e"..
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ti 7. Williath-whittift Ad, 'of Laceby; Linceln;.,birt,
flplieeper• It, , ter.' ut tne'bouleof T. Walker, in Barton-
, upn...kluttler,.LinC 1 -
ril. 152 Rdliert Marshal°lnslireOf Adv;ic k:-UPon-street, Yorit
AD isir,eorti-trarter; 'it te. 'at thillbant, Doncasler.
bt;ilezi?' Ebetlezer, I'lpil, of. late ofj-iv.crlr°l, „...,s"l7*'.
ltNy,elivi,aßatitocnollhea,rdi.lacttohtilke:e..ya,br
ta.ns'dn. Gottrt...iieriillearbnii'lei.i.";..,:tialts:::,Pflujer; it
lia I ,‘ . . ,
(....YovLenil- Gth:rtrd•-• Bowers". . and Arthur_Rei,diay, ectfor47Stte,.-
10'1 "en, '.13.,10is at.ten at Cud has . ,.,
.Iler '
e•I 19. William, 131a' ioie,"•-o?- Abingdon, Becks; 'rni
ancltnealutan; at t:n, at the;Red Lion inn, Abingdon.-
, .
. -- • :. CER:T/F/c.4.T.E.5. • . . '
April 'r3. Ninth Be •. . , . . eettsquare, rner-",
ew njamini of-,....une..5tr
chant .
!Vilna-* • , . .'.. . '
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' xlotna neanett late Of re'v,;:stieta, co4ent_flardefi, geld: e4llli.tli 4ntljewelicr;.• ',.., - . .• . ) .' :. _'..
eQrgP Dan, slOrt . Est,; braisitn, Zinaon Do.nci:-.:r •Ct.t7elp,now
,t,(9,"
.late of Lancaster, rnercnant. '' ' -'' ' . -.-• -
4airtilevinett, of Wallitik.:street,:wak.kionsernan. • - - '

THE SUN.

,C.OLEM Qt: IS AUS.Upc- uoz.vr ?

ZOND-ON,-MARCH 24). 1802.. t'

\Vp i
2 1 - ''lSt nii-„eht received French
are
tothe;
-°t" instant inclusive ; hut they are wholly desti-,
tote , .
ti` ,I. any important, intelligence. The Conserva-
-'e enate 114" e, fixed the mode and time of the re-
-11,,,e‘v"1 of four.lifths of the LegislatiVe Body
f y and the
1 unate, or the,
Yer.arb , '.'
* present, ,intl the 'next., three.
3'
-the Consulate have app of this: Sala-
"il-Consrd,uin.
Switzerland and Turkey continue to be in a very
et'Plexed and melancholy state. • •
_. . .
pa:„Wa .q.amt burgh 2tfaiis remained due W Pl 4
put to Press.
.hen
rel. was
WiThe 1(Ili on Monday took his usual. rise in
t,okdsor 'Park, the- QUEEN and PRINCESSES also
an. excursion to Frogniore. • •
The Pr - I.^
tro
~. ...OIL AL FAMILY came to -town yeiterilay
th Windsor '''
' ' • ' '
fr The. buk t .9FYO RK 'crne to town yesterday
°4l Rath. •' • • .- - ; •
A,. a:,ei'te_rtlaY' the annual eleelion 'for Officers of. the
1/0„:(1.Tot, Agriculture took place, when the Right
~f --tt_ea-0_ tsi cARR I.NCTOI4 Was
re-eleaed President
" Jdonr4 for the year 45uing.

NAYAt NEWS.

PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 23.

SAILED this day from Sr. Helen's for the Medi.
teiranean, His Majesty's, Ship Medusa; also the
Greyhound Sloop of War on a Crnize.
Went out of Harbour His. Majesty's Gun;b3ig
Piercer. , ,•

FALMOUTH, MARCH 21.

ARRIVED yesterday the Prince Ernest Packtt;
Captain PErRE, in 24. Lys from New.. York, with
Mails from America : she does not bring any par-
ticular news ; also the Brigs Mifoq, ,WtLLI A.ms,
and Libert WENSBOROUGH, from London.
Sailed yesterday, thc Pelican, Captain PERICIt,;S,
with oats, for Liverpool ; and the Swedish Ship
Het cubs, Captain JOHN SC H A L-L, with tobacco, from
Baltimore for Rotterdam.

Arrived this day His Majesty's Ship Arzet,;yst,
of 38 guns, Captain H. R. GLYNN, from a Cruize ;
and the brig jean, Captain IVl‘LAcHr.Amst from'
Lisbon,.,with fruit, &c. for this Port.
Passed by this evening, the American ship Alex.
tinder, Capt. KING, for London, last from Norfolk,-
with tobacco, &C. ; .forty-,rwo days passage.
The Packet with Leeward. Island Mail still ye,
mains by contrary wind.
Two Arberican-Ships are hourly expeted at this
Port from Port-au,Prince, when we' hope to be fur-
nished,with
_some news from St. Domingo.
The inhabitants•of this. town were this day high,
.ly. gratified -by'l the entrance of three French Mac-
karel Boats,. dri'Ven in here by stress of weather,
which are the.first, that have, been seen here during
the War, or since .the si4ning of. Preliminaries.