The Sun.
London, England, 1851-08-01 00:00:00

PETITIONS:

The Earl of MALMESBIJitY presented a petition
from Jersey for the preservation of the Crystal Palace.
Be considered this a most ab.nad petition, for he could
not imagine what interest the petitioners could have in
the matter. _ _ _

The Earl of CARLISLE presented several petitions
in favour of the preservation of the Crystal Palace.
NEW FOREST DEER REMOVAL. BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
NAVAL PROMOTIONS.
Earl TALBOT moved for a copy of the Order in
Council receatly issued for the regulation of
promotions in the navy. He knew that he brought
this motion forward under great disadvantages at this
late peried of the session, when the business was nearly
wound up and the annual fish dinner was fixed for to-
morrow. He considered that this measure inflicted a
great injustice on the officers in the service, and he hoped
they would undergo revision. Several officers would be
very hardly treated by this order in council, bybeing
placed against their wills on the reserved list, and he had
received several letters from some of these officers cers com-
plaining of that injustice. Among those who were thus
unfairly treated
were Sir A. Green, Rear-Admiral
Captain ear-Admiral
Bois, Forbes, Sir John 80, Sir George Westphall,
O'Brien. Ono of the officers who had been placed upon
the
iist, on the ground that he bad not served
a sufficient tune afloat,
had applied for employment no
reserved
less than 80 tunes—once a quarter, for twenty years, he
had applied to the Admiralty for employment. There
were great complaints in the e.ervice that employment
was only given to particular men and particular sets, to
the exclusion of others. Ile wished to know whether
coast guard service and inspecting service, and gunner
service would reckon for promotion. There wero many
officers constantly employed. Now the continued employ-
ment of Sir W. Parker in the Mediterranean was a
reflection on all other officers, ai if there were no
other officers capable of commanding it. It was
said he was to have another command when he
came home ; and if so it was a shame
Then again Captain Martin had served his time in com-
mand of his fleet. Why was not he called home, and
why were others excluded ? He did not mean
to cast the slightest reflection on those
gallant officers who were, admirably fitted for their
commands should always do their duty, but it was an
injustice to others not to give them the same chance
of service as had been given to those officers with these
perpetual changes introduced by Oorders in Council.
naval officers did not know what they had to trust to.
He thought that every officer, as the time approached
when he would be elisible for a flag, should have an op-
portunity afforded him of commanding a ship, and was
to serve out his time. The Noble Earl concluded by
movin,z formally fur the production of the order in
Council.

Earl GREY could have no objection to grant the
motion for the production of the orders in Council
With regard to the production of the rules adopted by
the Admiralty for their guidance, in the selection of
their officers, those rules were never reduced to writing.
Earl TALBOT would not press for their production.
arl GREY did not object to the production
of the other papers, and when the Noble Earl drew
the attention of the House to those papers, then
would be the to discuss the question which the Noble
Earl wished to raise. It was undoubtedly
a matter of great importance to reduce our
overburdened navy list, and such a reduction would
be not less bea,ticial to the service than to the
public. He regtetted that his Noble Friend had
adopted the dangerous and unc,nstitutional practice of
cinvsssing the claims of particular officers. It was
a prac ice dangerous to the interests of the service and
the constitution of thu country.
(1.1,7 T SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAK 1;:t took th© Chair shortly after Twelve.

NEW WRIT'.
On the motion of Mr. GOULBURN, a new writ was
ordered for Downpatrick, in the room of Richard Ker,
Esq., who had accepted the Chiltern Huudred.3.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords.' amendments to the Shrewsbary and
Chester Railway Bill were considered and agreed to.
atrward's Estate Bill and the Duke of Bridgwater's
Estate Bill were read a third time and passed.
WATER COUPANIES,
Mr. COWPER. moved that the Wandle Water and
Sewerage Company 8111, Lee River Trust Bill, New
River Company Bill, and Etst London Waterworks
Bill, having been suspended, in consequence of a resolu-
tion 01 this House, be allowed to proceed, during the
next session of Parliament, at the stage at which the
said Bills shall, at the termination of the present ses-
sion, be suspended. That if the promoters of the said
Bills shallopie notice by advertisement once in the London
Gazette, and for three successive weeks in the months of
October and November next, or ono of them, in the
local newspaper or uewspapers which may ho usually
in circulation in the part of the country through
which the line of works is pro;; std to pass, of their
intentien to present a petition for the re-introduction
of such a Bid, area if a petition for leave to bring in any
of such Bills eteell be presented to the House during the
next session of rs mew:, and referred to the Exami-
ner of P.e:tions for Private Bilis, the Examiner shall
examiee whether the seid petition be the same in sub-
stance as :Ley petition tor the same purpose, and from
the same parties, which was presented in this session of
rarliament, and in that case whether a subscription
contract or declaration in lieu thereof, as required by the
stemming orders, binding in the usual way the sub-
scribers to Inc undertaking, has be-us entered
into and is valid at the vale of such inquiry,
and whether, in the cases where a subscription con-
tract was made, the deposit of .51. per cent.
upOA such subserintien is lodged in the manner
required by the standing orders. That in such case,
and on proof of such notice having been given as afore-
said, the standing orders with respect to any such Bill
shall be held re have been complied with, and the Com-
mittee to winch any such Bill shall be referred shall ex-
amine whether the Bill be in every respect the same as
such former Bill at the last stage of its proceeding in
this House during the present session of Parliament,
Agreed to.

PETITIONS.
Several petitions were presented in favour of the re-
tention of the Crystal Palace
NEW ZEALAND EISETTLEMENTS BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed after the
second clause had been struuckNpoult.l
LUNATICS
a third time's) BILL.
This Bill was read
ME FROPOLITAN INTEaaßrsTle:EcialPaTsssedikL.
This Bid was considered and to, and ordered
to be read a third time to-morrow.
I GULATION
ATTORNIES AND SOLICI roßs
ACT AMENDMENT BILL,
This Bill was considered and agreed to.
GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH BILL,
This Bill was considered and agreed to.
CROWN ESTATES PAVING. BILL,
Tbis Bill was read a, third time and passed.
COUNTY COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL,
The House then went into Committee on this Bill.
nt
,aump. he
tATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the following
10 Vie' And whereas it ii; iirovided by the Act 9 and
ceived in „,e. 5, B. 40, that the greatest salaries to bo re-
courts, shanli' case by the judges and clerks of the county
1,2001. by a judge, and 600/. by a clerk,
be it enactedb6taellat Irian and after the passing of this Act,
the greater.
said judge;, and Clerks
to be received in any case by the
judge, and 7001.
by respectively, shall bo 1,500/. by a
Mr. W. WILLIAMSIa clerk.
ground that circumstances opposed the clause, on the
the salaryof .
conuces, did not call for an increase in
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protesrited
Mr. COLLINs
j:,:aelens;t the clause, but not
wishing to take any ractio
the session, he weal(' not divide course at this !ate period of
Sir GEORGE PEo uairl?' the House,
o!' faith bad been
"tad i ,coiderecl that a breach
dens on the officers. The;,_, ,placing additional bur-
duties 0
perform thcal
were
coilyiteinihr more arduous
atd.
County Courts Act, and ought, in hi,,l) by the first
increa,,ed sole of remuneration. pc„P,,irl, 10 have an
clause it svas le, nf3certain whether4h:ya the Pr"ent
have 1,000/. or 1,500/. a year. judges Were to
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that s-it wa ;
tended that the minimum 9
salary should be 1,(301. n-
Mr. CLAY would like to see express words intro_
dueed into the Bill fixing the minimum at that amount. Sir G. STRICKLAND considered that as eountv
courts were every (fry growing into importance and use--
fulaess, the respectability o: I'
the judges ought to be kept
up by giving them a salary, the amount of which would ,
be auffiaieut to secure eminent and experierced lawyers.
Vise soma further discussion,
&it. W. WILLIAUS said, as he diV? the general •
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