The Sun.
London, England, 1851-10-08 00:00:00

EVENING, OCTOBER B, 1851.

Bread—Pilot is scarce, but crsekers are plentiful and
inactive. We quote the former at 183. and the latter at
203. per barrel.
Mackerel—Nothing over 245. can be got for best No. 3.
Herrings are worth 14s. to 18s., according to quality.
The late parcels were of inferior quali:y.
Lumber—White pine is in improved inquiry. A cargo
to arrive is held for 85. c., deliverable at an eutport; but
there are several lots on hand, the remainder of previous
importations, which are being retailed at 80s. to 1003.,
according to quality. Good cedar shingles are worth
225. per 1,000.
Beef—American " Family" is taken at 463. to 48s. per
half-barrel.

Tongues—We quote pig's at 505., and ox at 4Ss. per
half-barrel, and proportionately for parts. A lot of
Irish ox tongues has been placed at 12s. per kvg of six
tongues.

Brandy may be readily obtained at ss. to sz. 63. per
gallon, short price. The stock is very heavy.
Geneva changes hands at 6s. 6d. per case, in bond. The
market is very considerably overstocked.
Corn—We quote American at 7s. 6d. per bag of twu
bushels. There is not any Columbian at market.
Rum inactive at 3s. to 3s. 3d. per gallon, proof, for
home consumption, or ls. 3d. for exportation.
Sugar—We range our quotations at 14s. to 17s. per
100 lb. for dark to good micdling. Fair sugars are vary
scarce.

Lotwood is in small inquiry at 365. to .18s. per ton.
Coilho-326. per 100 lb. would be readily paid for good
ordinary, thero is not any on offer.
Pimento—The new crop is being taken off, but only
small parcels have as yet found their way to market.
There are buyers at 3d. to 31d. per lb.
Ginger—Nu recent operations have transpired.
Gold—Columbian doubloons are worth 2 to 2i per
cent., and American gold 1 per cent, premium.
Malt—Bottled is wanted. It may be quoted at 7s. 9d.
per dozen. Bulk is plentiful and dull at 755. per hogs-
head.

Salt—Liverpool stoved is inactive. About 400 sacks
havo changed hands at 4s. _ _

TobaccO—The stock of all descriptions is heavy.
Leaf has been sold at 60s. per 100 lb., and Cavendish at
10d. per lb.
P.S.—The schooner Ocean Queen, from Halifax, came
in after the foregoing was in type. Her cargo consists
of about 10 hhds., 100 tierces, and 200 boxes codfish, a
few barrels mackerel and herrings, and 30 barrels sal-
mon. The last named may be considered a full supply
for at least five or six weeks,
EXCHANGES ON LONDON.
Colonial Bank ... 90 days, per cent. prem.
if 60 days, 1 per cent. prem.
• 6, ▪
30 days, 11 per cent. prem.
Jamaica Bank ... 90 days, per cent. prem.
66 •
60 days, 1 per cent. prem.
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... 30 days, 1i per cent. prem.
Merchants' Bills ... 90 days, par.
ON NEW YORK.
Merchants' Bills, 60 days, 1 per cent. prem.

THE JUDGE OF THE LIVERPOOL COUNTY
COURT AND MR. WHITTY.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
SIR,—As a friend to free and impartial inquiry,
you will probably deem the remarks of this letter not
the less deserving of insertion in your columns, though
opposed to the present current of public opinion.
That the steps taken by Mr. Ramshay have been
of an extreme character, and that his language and
conduct have bean injudicious, can scarcely be dis,
puted. But the questions still remain—ls Mr.
Whitty deserving of all the public sympathy that he
has received ? Is it conducive to the high character
for gentlemanlike conduct of the leading members of
the English press, to make common cause with him,
and to hold him up as a blameless martyr ? This
question may best be answered by the solution of
another, viz., Are respectable English journals (whe-
ther in London or elsewhere) in the habit of doing
what he did when he caused the name of Mr. Ram-
shay to be placarded on the walls of the town of
Liverpool, within short distance of his court ?
In vindication o Mr. Whitty it has been said, this
placard was perfectly innocent ;,,it merely announced
that his paper contained " Mr. Ramshay's opinion of
the people of Liverpool ;" and that opinion, it is
further urged, might have been quite complimentary.
Further, it has been suggested that in all this the
Liverpool journalist did no more towards Mr. Ram-
shay than the Times or the Examiner have done
towards Justice Talfourd or Baron Martin, viz., com-
ment freely on his decisions.
Now, with all due deference to those who adopt
such views, I may be allowed to observe that, in my
humble judgment, nothing but the excitement of the
present time time can account for the reception by,
sensible and intelligent writers of sophistries so pal-
pable as these views involve. What manner of
analogy is there between a comment on the opinions
of judges confined to the columns of a public journal
and placarding their names in the public streets, in an
invidious and insulting manner, within a stone's throw
from the tribunal where they have to decide between
man and man ? To say that this hand-bill in ques-
tion might have implied that the judge had compli-
mented the people of the town is a very indifferent
defence—considering that the reverse was in truth the
fact, and considering also the mutual irritation and
hostile feelings that had long existed.
The true and fair parallel would occur were the
Times, the Examiner, or The Sun to send forth a
host of bill. stickers to cover the walls of Sergeant's
Inn, the Temple, and Parliament-street, in term time,
with placards announcing the intended publication
"in their next journal of Mr. Justice Talfourd's or
Mr. Baron Martin's opinion on criminal law, or of
Mr. Baron Platt's opinion on high sheriffs, &c."
I quite concur in all that has appeared from the
press, to the effect that Mr. Ramshay would have
acted more judiciously had he borne his late success
with dignified silence and forbearance, and treated in-
sults of this kind with passive contempt. But is the
conduct of those who take advantage of his irritability
(whether constitutional or from ill-health) to be passed
over without the censure it merits ? Nay, more, are
they to be made objects of public sympathy and
applause ?

No one can feel more deeply than the writer of this
letter the importance of maintaining the freedom and
influence of the public press; but the conductors of the
press will best advance this great object by strict im-
partiality—by employing reproof, and not sympathy,
towards a member of the body of journalists who has
pursued a questionable course of conduct.
I have no intimacy or communication with Mr.
Ramshay, and I think it unfortunate that the state of
feeling towards him should be what it is, and Mr.
Whitty I believe to be, personally, a respectable man.
The foregoing remarks have been suggested to me
solely by a view of the facts formed at a distance,
and on their merits.—l am Sir, &c.,
Oct. 4, 1851.

JURISCONSULTUS.

THE CHEAP LOAF.
TO THE EDTOR OF THE SUN.

am one of those stupid persons who cannot
comprehend how producers of food and other neces-
saries of life, more especially the producers of bread,
are benefited by "a cheap loaf." By a cheap loaf
mean a 41b. wheaten loaf, which exchanges for, or is
purchased by 21 grains of gold, expressed in our cur-
rency fivepence.
We are instructed by political economists that the
value of a commodity depends upon the labour be-
stowed upon it to prepare it for the use of the pur-
chaser ; to lemur we are directed to look for a
measure of value. This admitted; and if we admit,
also, the loaf is become fifty per cent. cheaper by
recent legislation, it follows from the precept of the
economists that the producer of loaves should pro-
duce three loaves with the same amount of labour
with which he heretofore produced two.
Now it is my misfortune to know that such is not
the fact. In my rural walks I have conversed with
many practical farmers and hard-working labourers,
and I am convinced from the information so obtained
that the loaf to them is no cheaper than it was, in re-
lation to the professed measure of value of the
economists.

I am too old to be won by, or amused even, by
frothy speeches ; I am pleased only by words, whether
they be uttered by Peer or plebeian, that express
truths. Knowing as I do, that the husbandman doe
labour as hard as ever to produce a loaf, lam de-
sirous to learn whether there is any new system of
handicraft discovered by which the loaf can be pro-
duced by fifty per cent. less labour than it was some
ten years since.

Taking a common sense view of the matter, I am
not, however, without hope that the day of retribu-
tion for the hard-toiling producers is at hand—retri-
bution which will induce so complete a reformation
of our (commercial policy, and adjustment of our
monetary system, that they, at any rate, will be justly
requited.
The economists tell us labour is the m easureof
value ; their precept is at variance with their practice
for our monetary system is, in defiance of their asser-
tion, based not upon labour, but upon gold. IN hen,
and I most fervently hope the day is not distant, we
shall have imports of gold reckoned b y the hundred
weight instead of by the ounce,; the industrious sec-
tions of the community will be released from the
clutches of those who are now by law permitted to
exact three measures of the products of their toil in-
stead of two only to which the legalised extortioner
is entitled. The bullionists will not merely be better
informed, but be compelled to honest conduct.
They will not, in all probability, be over delighted
with the celebrated definition of a pound when they
find that the pound of 5 dwts. 3grs. weight of gold
will exchange only for a bushel, possibly a gallon, of
wheatinstead of a sack; the bullionists will then be
reedy
senough to accede to a just compromise; but
until tnen we must apparently endure, as we best can,
the strife and distraction now unhappily pervading
our social system.
Your obedient and obliged servant,
Oct. 7, 1851. J. H.

GLUT OF SILVER. AT THE EXHIBITION.—"Yesterday
it was found necessary to have two cabs to convey to
Threadneedle-street the accumulation of the previous day,
and the weight of specie vAnonnted to no lei* than 15 cwt.