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DUBLIN, Nov. 17.

TWIGREAT CRISIS!

(1)ROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.)
jt ig pis Newcastle, Monday, Nov. 17, 1834.
ulacult to describe the sensation which the,
Airn.gence of the breaking up of Lord Melbourne s
The Inistration produced in Newcastle this morning.
taNsPrevalling impression on the minds of the inhabi-
i4 generally appeared to be astonishment, amount-
ge.nal.r°93t to incredulity. The reputation which the
ler had acquired for good temper and sound sense
lieohtued most men to hope that the just rights of the
lefor e would have been regarded ; that an efficient
of prilliwcsuld have been made, in the ensuing Session
tutttabr4e,7lent, in the Municipal Corporations through-
the Kingdom ; and 'that the:reasonable claims of
Proi',issenters would have been cheerfully and
1)04,-PttY Conceded. The dismissal of Lord Mel-
the -s-le and his colleagues appears intended to blast
ill expectations. The opposite effect will be pro-
ced. ~„
their d 'no people will not be content to go without
rateen'ands• Instead of being satisfied with mode-
-40,,-°'icessions, granted with a good grace, they will
100 require large and sweeping changes. They will
Weilfa'ensures more than to men. If the Duke of
he mngton hopes to retain the reins of government,
qiknlchange his opinions, or act as if they were
°):'': lie must support that which he has hitherto
iNt:'t(ll,_' He must emancipate the people of England,
grailtei' Same principle of expediency on which he
641, ( Catholic emancipation. The change must be
Yield b. Works not words, or he had better‘ at once
thei4 °Mee to one who is able and willing to fulfil
't expectations of the people. This unlooked-for
aibe .
'n the Ministry has in an extraordinary degree
the interest of the inhabitants in the dinner
of 1;11 iSt t° be oiven here two days hence to the Earl
hsecitir:arn• All the tickets had been already (Es-
's °L ; twice the number might have been sold. It
eventful crisis.

111 FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.)
detti Startled
of your readers in this city were in.
this7rtied at the intelligence brought by the packet
thkti:ti'ing. Though anticipating some . importan
we el in consequence of the death of Earl Spencer,
, -ere
qitr hot °L. all u prepared to hear that his Majesty had
dti4l the formation of a new Cabinet to the Duke
ptiellington. An event of less moment would, at
pe r'le, produce great excitement in Ireland—among
op],
Pkttit of warm temperament on every subject, and
Nertu,,,arly mercurial in politics. But it may be safely
the just just now, that, since your announcement of
to rliKe'S attempt in 1831, to form a Ministry hostile
illtkr'lrin, no public event has excited such intense
1441 N 48 the news of this day. On the occasion al-
tileanat°' Your expresses were among the most efficient
14i48-t°f evoking public opinion, and arraying it
"is Grace's attempt to carry on the Govern-
Siiltell7ithout complying with the wishes of the people.
that period, however, a mighty revolution has
tilterae ; and if you do not again call upon the
Kingdom to proclaim the impracticability of
you hr:tit Captain's line of proceeding, it is because
e good grounds for believing that he now feels
Pro,,e' understands the " spirit of the age," and will
himself the great tactitian he is reputed to be, by
Yi
ttisn(lo its dictates. In fact, putting aside the hopes
"ere j,tliif the mere factions, the general expectation
InQMay this
the Duke f Wellington, no matter who
be
hias colleagues,o " must willingly, or unwil-
blY
tarry forward the great principles of Reform."
klikdet3 the opinion of the majority of those of every
AolieClid colour, who have the candour to express the
It i "d unbiassed convictions of their own minds.
trto ttost not, however, be concealed, that there are
41:allies in Ireland—the Radicals, and the Ascen-
ey
n Or Orange party—greatly exhilirated at, what
ikazi ad, the downfall of the Whigs. The former
tic nre,B that no Wellington Ministry can be suffici-
Itilithiberal to satisfy the country, by the extent to
404 they will carry Reform. The latter fancies the
he tele of monopoly ascendancy and intolerance will
ti ; and they are already chuckling in the an-
S,-I°ll of enjoying their ancient and exclusive pri-
Before this meets the public eye, a Cabinet
15eit;t1le expect, have been formed, which will disap-
Yop views of both. Should it prove otherwise,
/tell ttY rest assured there is a third party here, as
1): lin England, who, properly speaking, are the
-,,,,P;ine," the representatives of public opinion, and
tlre-44 frustrate the efforts of any Government not
'lNfea to carry into effect the principles avowed and
emi by Earl Grey on his taking the reins of Go-
Vo,.Thent• Why should not the Duke have the glory of
It i-,41g as he has of emancipating his country ?
t1(1 )4.- thought that the Chancellor, Lord Plunkett,
ove'r• Littleton, will be the only part of the Irish
‘4ltil tnent likely to be changed: Both these changes,
1114'd ncitheY take place, will be regretted by the liberal
Nlot °Pendent portion of the community--the Chan-
if4itlikais a talented man, a consistent Whig, and a
%coil and able advocate of the rights of his Catho-
tp IreitlatrYtnen—and Mr. Littleton as a sincere friend
tromp id, whose peace and good order he has been
It°ll-1g very considerably during the short time he
I h •
-ed
4111 to hardly say your next Number is looked for
with intense curiosity and interest.
A
_TR

Or PUBLIC OPINION AND- MOVE-
MENTS IN THE METROPOLIS.

At TUESDAY NIGHT. -
Nt Predicted, the excitement of the public mind
is
Nry—t* far and wide, and preparations are making in
Netltlftlarter to give full though not hasty effect to the pre-i
tl%l on the subject. The Tories shrewdly enough
on the effects of the surprise on the people ;
01).1 'olated on finding, them without leaders, without
4:4eb4,ati". So far they were right. But combinations
!ict ,"organized, and are now organizing, with amazingt
tlingti the fact of a variety of requisitions for pu -
heinn• in repeated instances started in the same
t 4
"Y Parties who were unaware of each others inten-
::4lli„PerilaPs a more convincing proof of the unanimity.
'tribirati t 'get Which exists than even the most extensive
pewttlast gratifying feature in the day's occurrence was
"ale,ceet unanimity of all classes and sections of -
1444:: against either the threats or bribes of a ToryGo-
try whey Radicals, Ultra-Radicals, and Whigs, were
de :i:'ere to be seen acting together, and wisely casting
t° th:" minor dissentions, in order to oppose a united front
yir
4,,,,e'rpnion enemy.ll-57tti,b-o;at4thaeywast
tnunmdb of flying rumours were circu-
eorfthe town, to which, however,
as 'lightestecsreedit can be attached. That which
kob-r
t e greatest credence was, that the present Spea
M. M l''ad° a Peer, and that M Goulburn should st.,

ti)hee%tobrerees ity the CITY.
greatest possible intere3istiawyoars
ataukdenthine
4,l4ltatio_P°''denee between the Lord..
V.A.lstiled tl. of the Common Council. It was well utlx,ie-
c„'tke uat the Lord Mayor wanted to get
._ _
lid doto.convene a Common Council, if he pessib!y
iti, 4 tile ~
6of 'olltse of
deputation from a mee.t-
kat seve,, , the morning
totlqilq .`"
waited upon the
Members of the CaoudretPouf Common Council,
Arerd AA In the morning at the Guildhall,
ay
4litit,;°' at the Mansion-House, for the purpose of
ilit4vtl, a-e t° l'is Lordship a second requisition to convene. a
% Lottourse rendered necessary by the answer given by
11„, "'P to the first.
'''
441ver,
' which was handed at 11 o'clock to the

deputation by the Lord Mayor, who was attended by the
Recorder at the Mansion-House, was as follows
Mansion-house, 18th Nov., 1834.

" Gentlemen,—Having given my best and very anxious de-
liberation to the Requisition presented to me by certain Mem-
bers of the Court of Common Council, and in the terms fol-
lowing [here follows the Requisition] : I beg most respectfully
to state, that I shall be at all times willing to afford every fa-
cility to the Corporation and Citizens of London to discuss
publicly matters of public import, in which their interests, and
those of the empire at large, are concerned ; but I regret to
add that, in the present instance, the terms of the Requisition
are such as directly to involve the principle of dictation to the
King with reference to one of his Majesty's most important
prerogatives—the free choice of his Ministers, the constitu-
tional and responsible advisers of the Crown. I cannot, there-
fore, as the King's representative in this City, be a party to a
measure which appears to me •to trench upon the first legal
right of the Sovereign. At the same time, Gentlemen, I
have every disposition to entertain any further application di-
vested of the objections to which I have pointed your atten-
tion.—l am, Gentlemen, your faithful servant,
" HENRY WINCHESTER.
" To the Gentlemen of the Court of Common
Council whose signatures are attached to the
Requisition."
Immediately upon receiving the reply of his Lordship,
the members of the Court repaired to Guildhall and drew
up the following requisition :
" We, the undersigned members of the Court of Common
Council, request your Lordship to call an immediate Court to
take such measures as the Court may think right in the pre-
sent state of public affairs, and to address his Majesty thereon
if the Court shall think fit."
Mr. Richard Taylor, Mr. Pritchard, Mr. David Wire,
Mr. Stevens, and Mr. Ashurst, were of the deputation who
waited upon the Lord Mayor with this requisition ; upon
reading which,
His LORDSHIP said that he saw nothing objectionable
in the terms, and would give an answer in the course of the
day, after a due consideration of the subject.
Mr. WIRE hoped that his Lordship would, with as little
delay as possible, return an answer to the deputation upon
an occasion of so important a nature.
Mr. STEVENS hoped that the requisition would not be
negatived by his Lordship, because of the limited number of
signatures. If that were an objection, a little exertion
would soon procure the signatures of a very large body of
the Common Councilmen.
The LORD MAYOR said, that be thought of no objection
of the kind. The question of a limited or unlimited num-
ber of signatures, was one of no importance ; but it struck
him that there might be a question as to the legality of
calling together a Court of Common Council, before a
Court of Aldermen was convened, at the commencement of

the Mayoralty. He should, however, consult the proper
authorities upon the subject.
At two o'clock the deputation again waited on his Lord-
ship, who received them very courteously, and said that he
should comply with the requisition, by convening a Court,
but it was impossible for him to call it immediately. It
was a custom from which he could not at all consider him-
self at liberty to deviate, for the Lord Mayor to go in state
to the first Court of Aldermen before he went to any other
Court, and it would be quite impossible to hold a Court
of Aldermen at a moment's warning, for most of the Mem-
bers of that Court were out of town. To summon them,
therefore, under such circumstances, would be an insult to
the whole body. He was, therefore, constrained to wait
the regular time for holding the Court of Aldermen (Tues-
day next), but instead of appointing the Thursday following,
which was the regular time for holding the Court of Com-
mon Council, he should appoint the Wednesday, on which
day the matter of the requisition should stand first on
the paper..
Mr. RICHARD TAYLOR-Why not call a Court of Al-
dermen at once if it be a point of such etiquette ? The
matter which we are anxious to discuss is far from being
a matter of form, and ought not to give place to a mere
form ; for I suppose your Lordship has altogether given
up the objection that it might be illegal to call a Court of
Common Council.
The LORD MAYOR admitted that his objection to call an
immediate Court of Common Council was that of a viola-
tion of courtesy to the Court of Aldermen, for which, he
must say, he entertained due respect, as well as for the
former assembly. He had to inform the deputation, that
he also had a great deal of business to attend to in the pre-
sent week. The new Central Criminal Courts Bill came
into operation, and as he was at the head of the Com-
mission, he should be occupied in preparing for the occa-
sion. There were other duties, too, which he should have
to perform.
Mr. PRITCHARD-But are the rights of the Court of
Common Council to be encroached upon for a mere point

of etiquette ? Your Lordship admits that there can exist
no legal objection to granting our request to be called
together upon an emergency ;—why, then, do you
hesitate ?
The LORD MAYOR—I see no emergency. I have been
upon 'Change, and in many very many public places ; and
I don't find any symptoms of the alarm which some people •
speak of.
Mr. WlRE—Suppose your Lordship received intelligence
of the demise of the Crown to-morrow, would you not call
a Court of Aldermen at the moment ?
The LORD MAYOR—No doubt of it ; that would be an
emergency indeed.
Mr. STEVENS—We consider the present a far greater
emergency ; and we are, it seems, to be sacrificed to a
mere matter of etiquette.
• Mr. TAYLOR—A mere sword-bearer's business !
The Loan MAvoR—I do not wish to see contempt cast
upon the forms which it has been long thought necessary to
observe. I have no personal feeling to gratify in the course
I am pursuing, and do nothing but my duty.
Mr. ASHURST—If the Queen died to-morrow, you would
hold a Court in an instant, to condole with his Majesty ;
and how can you reconcile it to yourself to postpone an ap-
plication until the time at which it may be rendered of uti-
lity may have passed away ?
The LORD MAYOR--I cannot possibly bold a Court un-
til Wednesday week ; and I shall, after that, hold.as many
Courts as you please.
The Deputation then retired, evidently much dissatisfied.

In addition to this, requisitions have been framed, and
are in course of signature in the City, for convening a
meeting of the constituency ; and another amongst the
livery for convening a Common-hall. Some delay must,
however, occur in obtaining this, in consequence of the
Guildhall being fitted up for the ball for the Poles. The
conduct of his Lordship has met with the most severe and
unusual censure ; and it is not a little singular that the
Duke of Wellington was in the City to-day incognito, and
was understood to have been in consultation with the chief
magistrate on the subject. The following is the requisition
of the livery :

" TO THE RIGHT HON. THE LORD MAYOR.

" MY Loan—We, the undersigned Liverymen of the city
of London, do hereby request your Lordship will convene a
meeting of the Livery on an early day, to consider the pro-
priety of presenting an address to his Majesty, to express to
his Majesty the deep concern with which the Livery and
Citizens of London view the step his Majesty has been ad-
vised to take in dismissing his late Ministers—men who were
pledged to the country to effect those salutary reforms in every
department of the State, which the present situation of the
country so loudly demands ; and to express to his Majesty
the dismay the Livery feel at witnessing the Government of
the country passing into the hands of men whose whole lives
have proved them to be enemies to those amendments and
improvements in the institutions of the country, which alone
can secure to his Majesty's subjects good and economical
Government, contentment, and peace ; and to implore his
Majesty not to disappoint the just expectations of his faithful
subjects, who have so long suffered severely from corrupt and
bad Government, but to call around his Majesty men only who
will enjoy and deserve the confidence of the country."