The Sun.
London, England, 1856-04-16 00:00:00

IMPERIAL- PARLIAMENT.

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was described in the Rubric as idolatrous, hand we were
taxed to support it. In a public newspaper,, published in
Nov. last, what said the Rev. Mr. Kelly, parish priest, in
reference to a case of Bible burning ? He sie.id, " Would
you know the nature of the charge recentiae made ? It
was that of committing to the flames a telling called a
Bible, but which is a foul, blasphemous corruption—a per-
version of the Word of God." Then There were loud cheers,
and the speaker. went on—" It is .for committing to the
flames that which if rmyself was going to c ommit.to the
fiaines, should do so by picking it up with a pair of tongs
for fear of soiling my fingers.' This was th • report of a
speech made at - a large meeting by one o:f the priests
for whose education. at. Maynooth they avere paying.
He considered that those who ,had tektite. the .oath
of allegiance broke it if they supported a college which
taught such doctrines, as those to which he had al-
, hided. How could They perform their oath of allegiances
I if they compelled their Sovereign to give her assent to
measures so injurious to the Protestant .religion, and so
subversiveof the stability of the constitution ? Any one
who would read :the report to which he-had referred
would perceive that the ROMan Catholic Church was
divided into two great sections—the Ultramontanists
and the Gallicans. At the present time, there was a
great struggle going on, the object of which was to bring
Mayneoth under the entire control of the intramontane
party. He implored the shouee -not- to give a vote on
this question without making themselves acquainted with
the teaching of that party into whosebands the College
of Maynooth had fallen. A right bon. friend of his, who
was not now ,present doubted whether the house was
not bound in good faith to support the college. On that
point they could have no better authority than that
of the statesman who had introduced the Endowment
Act—the late Sir Robert Peel. The right honour-
able gentleman, in his speech on the 3d of April,
1845, expressly declared that the measure was no
the result of any stipulation or contract. (Hear.) It
was proposed then simply as a free gift-ea gift conferred
in the full confidence that the professions that were
• held out would be fulfilled. But they had now a more
educated, a more loyal, and a more humble or submis-
sive class of Roman Catholic priehte ? The very reverse
was the fact ; and the house was therefore free to recal
its favours. (Hear.) Let the noble -viscount opposite
boldly come forward, and, disregarding the- votes of
hon. gentlemen below the gangway, do this great act of
justice and right, and he- would be the most popular
Mihister that ever sat un that bench. The voice of the
people would ring like thunder through the land, and
would keep him in the place he filled ; but he warned
him against the consequences` hat would follow his op-
position to the motion. (Hear.) He begged now to
move that the Speaker do leave the 'chair.
Mr. M'CANN, referring to what the hon. member
had, said with respect to theMaynooth .priests, would
like to know what would have been the consequence if
the Irish soldiers at Inkerman had not been taught by
priests educated in that college ? (Hear.) :
• Mr..BLACK thought that all the grants to religious
• bodies in Ireland should be referred to the -same commit-
tee, Confining his remarks to the annual votes he found
that in 1853 the sum granted to the General Assembly of
the Presbyterian Church, which held the same principles
as the Church of Scotland, was 33,981/. ; to ,the Remon-
strate Synod, Ulster, which held Arian views, 2,2261.; to
the synod of Munster (Arian), 9371. ; and the 'synod of
Antrim-(Arian); 9001.; making a total of 38;0441. This
year it appeared that that sum had been increased to
39,0001.; whereas the Roman Catholics only received
26,3601,, ' (Hear.) The revenue of the Establiihed
-Church was 7641404/. a year. It would-be instruAiTe
-to 'compare these- figures with the comparative Member
of .the different bodies,. -According to the report .of the
commissioners of instruotien iii 1834, the Established
Church had 836,854 !Aerobe/a, or 103 per cent.' of the
population. The Presbyterians had 8 per cent., and the
other dissenters a quarter. peraceetaa while the Roman
Catholics were 81 per cent of the whole. Since then the
. famine of 1846-7, and the great emigration which took
,lace after it, had greatly modified those proportions ;
a-id according to thehbest authorities, the Established
Church had now 13 per cent., the Presbyterians • and
....other dissenters 10, and the Roman - Githolies'77 per
.cent. Dividing the endowments he had mentioned amongst
the different bodies, the Established ()birch would be
filled to receive 51. Bs. per family, the Presbyterians 6s.
11d., and the Roman Catholics Bil. Few would deny
that there was a principle of justice in this distribution,
independently of sectarian considerations; Those grants
were taken from the general fund of thetaxes, contributed
to by every- one who smoked a pipe, or- took a cup 'of
tea:; and yet those who received..at the rate of 51. Bs.per
head w..re crying out against those who received much
• less. Why should they fix upon one sect; and with-
draw the grant from it, in reference to any other 7 The
grants to the Presbyterians had always increased, they
wprein,creasing, and .aught to be diminished.". • (Hear.)
There was an understanding at -the time of the Union
that the Mayneath grant should be continued ; and this
was confirmed by the act of Sir-R. Peel. On this ground
'the Maynooth grant had' a higher claim to be continued
than the others. But it was objected to on two grounds
—that Romanism. was unfavourable to civil liberty, and
that we ought not to support n heresy. He acknow-
ledged that. Romardem had not been "favourable to civil
liberty, and that in countries where it prevailed the
forms bf government were mostdespotic. - (Hear, hear.)
He would recommend the Catholics to call monster
meetings, and urge on their hierarchy to promote tolera-
tion wherever Catnolicisin was the estahlished religion ;
and they would then do much to refute this are,umeet
aeainet the grant. But the main objection in the minds
of the great bulk of petitioners was; that the Roman
Catholic religion was heretical. 011 this principle
`-he felt the greatest 'repugnance to vote for the
withdrawal of the grant ; for not only did Protestants
'believe Catholics to be in deadly error, but Catholics
ent rtained: the „same opinion of Protestants, and the
Presbyterians and other sects held the carne with regard
to each other. (Hear, hear.) If they wished to put.
down a religion which they considered heretical, it could
only be done by an. exterminating pereecution, ouch a?,
-had . Prevailed. io .Spain,, In this country, we had. Epic-
eOpalianiern established in England, Piesbyterianisei in
Seotlend, and Roman Catholicism tolerated in Ireland ;
tat they had all been persecuted in turn, and with- ut
-effect. If we resorted again to persecution, we might
"send missionaries and tons of tract, to convert the RO.
ntoists, but it would be all ithyaho.,flelear, hear.) He
'would not consent to persecute ail), 'sect, but would do
justice to all. (Hear.) It was said this was a Protestant
.countryettol a Protestapt Parliament ; but all that was
meant was that the great bulk of the people were so. He
doubted, however, ,whether they were Protestants, for
the leading principle of Protestantism was the right of
private judgment, and those who denied that right
FOREIGN TROOP. 3. , ,- . were Worse than infidels.' The hon. _gentleman! con-
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oil: DUNNE asked the Under Secretary fe eluded by moving,r War,
,the following word as
s : " And at the an ainendment ;
the addition of
erne time to take
at Whatttimi the -GtoVeinment hive detennined to did- ieto consideration the other Parliamentary grants made
banehthe 'foreign. troops in S the British: service, whether to religioes denominations iri Ireland." i now in Eneland,. in-the East, or in .any' foreign country; Mr. HADFIELD Seconied the amendment. ''
and-.4hether Such 'iroepe, when diehanded, would re- . Lord CASTLEROSSE protested against the House
ceives any'aelVantagee 'of pchafion or emigration, which of Commons being converted into an arena fur embit-
wou'd not be granted to British troops of the line or, tered„polemical disputes. (Hear, hear,) It was vain to
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militia '? ' - - ' • '
would be
. . „ argue with, one who, like Mr. Spooner, permitted
Mr. F. PEEL mid the foreign "troops he
e 9 and prejudice completely soblind is mind. The
cli!i- bigotry ' h' .
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banited as tiecesestarices allowed.* The foreign :troope objections which, lie rehashed up every session had been
were hot 'entitled tie? receive a pension, butn a gratuity .sowered over 'and over again. Who had a right. to
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weulttlee given Co ,officerS' of -1 l'i-ef6nt,he' pay, and the •
oenetitute hitheelf.a judge of Coat, Wnsetz.4ll and• error 3
private to six menthe. They were• entitled •to a fret Was it right that those who advocated private,. judge
peasage home to tlie`Nerth Anueriean colonies or the meet should thus , prhoieeece condemnation on the-rali-
Cepe, whichever einey.inight Ise:ecte - • .
,ion of millions of ' her 'lVlajesty'e Most loyal subjects'?
POLICE RILL. (flear,.hear.) This greet was. the subject of solemn
In answer te a question farm Sir J. PAKINGTON, compact at the !line 'd the Union, was recognised by Mr.
Mr. Be OSBORNE said if-the state of health of the P.erceval in 1812, and had since been confirmed. Did
Secretary fur the Bonne DepartMent permitted; it was the hen member suppese that the removal of this grant
certain!y intended to. proceed with the police- bill on would strengthen the-position of the. Established Church
that evenine, irreePectlve of thi Vice-President' of _the ,iii
Council of Edrica.t:cre Bill. Ireland, whointvealth had been taken from the church
Lord PALMERSTON said that it was the intention ° t .
' I be people there r He was convinced that tine house
of tho Government to'go on with -supply on Frida The would neve' be a party to (etch a Cre-itig injustice .
Hoali. Secretary 'was temporarily indisposed, any
nd heViscount BERNARD denied that there bad ever been
(Lord. Palmerston) could not say if the two bills tamed 'any compact respecting this grant, either at -the time of
the Union or subQequontly. It bad been cendemned by
would be proceeded with on that night, the late Dike of Wellington, when Secretary for Ireland,
. . . `:ENDOWMENT OF MAYNOOTII. Sir Re Peel had introduced this measure as one that was
. . .
Mi.. e9I.)QOINTER ro'e to move his &angel motion. with to heal the woes of Ireland ; but let any one look at the
refereo&ld the endowment of Maynooth, viz. ; -"That scenes which" were presented at elections, and ask himself
this Ifoinhe'd& keg& ye. itself into a 'cdritheittee for the pur. if it had produced that effect. It should be remembered
pose of considering the acts f.,r the'endoWnieet of the that since the taxes of England and Ireland hied,been
College of Maynooth, with a view to the withdrawal of eqiialised the Protestants of Ireland were celled on to CM-
any endowment out 6f the consolidated fund, due regird'tribute to this grant for education given io convents amid
'being bad to vested: rights or interests." He said that, neona,-,:teries, and they were at the. same ties refused any
often.: es be bad ha,l• to bring this subject under the assistance for their own schools.. There was one grave
.eaueiideration of-the hatreee at no time- did he feel -the consideration connected with this question;. When Sir R.
Importance of 'the subject and the difficulties he had to Peel's bill passed the population of Ireland was one-third
contend with greater than at the present time; and 'he greater than at present ; and the. college; Of 'Mhyn6oth
was inclined, if possible, to* take a division on the reap- woe, in fact, a menufa.c.tory of priests, not only fir Ire
I, u, then. withoot a debate. (Lenghter,- anti loud cries. of land, but for the whole of the British ' coloniea, . The
divithh") The-
hoe gentleman 'referred -to the report Roman Catholic Abaleuttahand theßiehepe
of the commission of n'
last yrar, which . rch been
oK
he said had' been of Malras and Adelaide bk.' educated at Mayeooth,
tamperedsubmitted
with, having been sent to Rome before it Tire vicious principle against which they now contended
to the hon-se and-proceeded to detail had been sought to be applied to - the education'of this
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the course be intended to pursue purste on this occasion. country; and one of our est public men had completely
The hon. gentlemah first o
entered
into a nonsideration;of
ort-of the broken down in the attempt. The noble lord thea read
various parts of therep
commissioners, in the some_ extracts from
. the evidence taken by the Maynooth
course of which .ho remarked tbact from the manner in
which ;the-evitleooe was taken b
y tea commissioners .commissioners, in proof of the statement, that priests
educated at MaynOoth were sent out • to-all the colonies.
the inquiry into the real working of the College of ?Via He li s convinced that the tendency of the teaching
nooth had turned gut a.mockery and a sham. -eaY• e was
, were
The per. at Maynooth had been to spread discord among ail classu
sons examined, by the commissioners
. in Ireland; 'the priests there educated had always songht
whose feelings, if heieeet-and sincere, and held the doe- to set' the Catholics against all other classee. Whatever
trines taught at Maynootb, would equivocate, if might be the decisien of the house on this question, the
equivoAation was for the benefit of their Church deciSion of the people out of doors was made.
and -, he , (afe, Spoonar) contended that - the question Mr FAG IN 'd ho was unwilling oo personal grounds
of endowing this college,was a question which the house to in.aki,
any. oithisiereatione on "this much-worn subject,
ought seriously to• consider. It was not to be justified but as erepreacsqpi large oeoetituency, who werceinte;
that
. wee as a Protestant nation, should be taxed had terest din the subject, he hoped.the house would give
wade to iSrSjldde such ..books as Mr. APGee had °mime- him its attention for a short time: (Hear) The noble lord
rated; ili:3 eworli, he had published,. ,as containing the "who. had just spoken said that there was no contract in
doeesehiiihel;thereßarohiele Chervil. That publication he the case.- ,Perhaps there waSnot in'' the strict sense of
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tp-.th`sl-pOrtisat of tlie,weatijers. of that tee terne and even if there were; he admitted the right
reconiMe3444
doubted ti ()Lied that" after reading it their ef Parliament, if it so seemed fit, to revoke thatcontraet,
of r.requneaniiotybloeiltoarxdazlnled on the h'ouse,, ein the ground of
hotts6 andhi,
opinions would be much shaken as to the :proprietY
tchoautnit.tnwesa,stalyboalinashisethraisb
new established between the two-
continuing tke grant to Maynooth. The Roman Catholics,
grant,ih
tr tbi
ount
odfi
that
all:
wnhoitchk nwoaws,
if true to their Church and its- teachtngs, ought never to
be-cantent until they had put themselves on a par, at
protestant establishment fre thie country,
Ire support of • the Established Church I (11 'l3) ' Th
least, atiftli'' OM taken from the Romaa Catholic Church, and a plied to
the- llentert Cetholic.relig.
gases' hone° to Support him In inalistain-
ing‘'SitecinAituticth in aturch, and State that had-been noble lord complained that the money granteedario Maye-
Put'ehOreed loy.the blood of sup a.uctestars and which, nooth went to propegite
they' did-pot take. care, w'rsuld . he-til:OP kora therm: .elsewhere than. Wrclaiiill It would be difficult for
notn'ail Catbolics were exercising an unconstitutional the Roman. Catholic religion to, be propagated in Ire.
infloehee oyes Pet liament, and were ;creeping into, the' land' without -it,s fieing also propagated in other places.
Government; 'and abtaini4 But the same thing
;occurred . in. this country in re.
the -noble- -had Undue po:.ver, Look at what
dime and the appointments:, that epect to the propagation nf the Protestant religion.
he had made, and it. would be -found., to be ;the The noblii lord,. was not justified in libelling the
case. The noble lord 'IVII9 einconscieus of the amount :priests of Ircfand as .be had done. He thought
of ehirhe -was thus bnnging on - the country, against the noble • 104 i . h3d ..Itieted a . bad time for sup.
which the whole country was loud in protesting: The ..Pertieg this motion, Attire present time the olive branch
only motive their-induceiLshitteMe.Spooner)_ to come: -
• - Was elebint to be in terchinged between. different nations;
forward on this guleieee feaiee,_ ~, ~ se was jepreeenaiif differerit creeds, and theeefore it was an un-
.-..x.•Tuar in tuaz,noll ,
to (I.4'hid "duty as - a arTaitian wan—his duty -to his seasonable' .morneht to introduce art/00.a ienotiun now:.
country, and hie. duty tc.!,,i.4:0,
4reaad to do everything He did not thinlathe religion.whichhee(lr..Fagan) pro:
he could to ".nc,z,- as end. "to t.,,a system which thee Est- tossed need fear the attaekS of thee uobledoid. r. He be
bliehßrettireh -of ;his c.duZit h
17 -ead declared to be- here(' that the motto alto perpetuit rilght be applied •to
idal iiiiiiii'7.' T-4,5,3 Wolll,d now leave the Political part of the I- that: church. Her_6raily believed...that when the New
. sub' ,'Whit.../t,te-c-(Crisidered to be- the least Zalander •of of_ -whom, the hi torts' spoke wag contem
1 - .2 Qi.- 10 4 u ' ~17‘,*',
'WOXadTtgei; to the religious moot ict, , AL. 4.4.0 -p44,ti4 tie Nip 4* 41. ip#aliftOill 4004revieown" 11l
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HOUSE OF LORDS—(YEsTERDAY)•-

The Lord CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'9loek.
On the motion of the Earl of CARNARVON a re-
turn was ordered of the various sums contributed to the
patriotic Pond:
On the motion of the Bishop of OXFORD a copy of
the letthr addressed by-the Archbishop of Canterbury to
the Lord Chancellor Was ordered to be laid on the table.
The same right rev. prelategave notice of hid" intention
to ask a question of the Lord President of the Council
as to whether it was his intention to proceed with the
Ncincation Bill, after what had "occurred in another place.
THE POSTMASTER OF HUNTINGDON.

,The Earl of SANDWICH inquired of the Postmas-
ter-General the reasons which had induced him to with-
draw from the prosecution of the postmaster of Hunting-
don at the late assizes ?

The Duke of ARGYLL said that in all cases involv-
Jig prosecutions for felony it was customary for the
Government to consult the law authorities of the Crown.
In the present instance that course-had been adopted,
and the result was, that the law officers did not advise a
prosecution. The party, however, was dismissed, as it
was considered that he bad been guilty of a grave offence
in opening a letter containing'm order in favour of Mr.
Do Barry, the proprietor of the article called
Arabica Revalenta, f)r a supply of that arti-
cle, with a view of obtaining a commission
in the transaction, he being one of the local agents, by
sending it directly from himself. The ordinary rule had
been adopted in this case, and no difference was made as
the noble earl had stated between the Huntingdon post-
*derand the Staffordshire official. The fact was bathe
one case a prosecution was advised, in the other it was
thought advisable not to institute a prosecution.

OXFORD UNIVERSITY.
The Earl of DERBY complained of what he con

sidered
_a discourtesy. to the noble earl opposite(Har-

o rowby) in laying on the table last evening, just before
the rising of the house, a bill forthe amendment of the
act relating to the University of Oxford. He certainly
should have expected that ha would have been informed
oftbe proceeding; oonsideting his connection with the
university. . t...
The Earl of 11ARROW13Y assured the noble lord
that not the slightest disclurteny was intended. The
measure was .not of any great importance, it being
'merely to remedy some technical defects, and he did not
think. it was necessary to mention the subject to the
noble earl.
The Loudon Docks Bill and the Knottingly Gas Bill
were severally read a third time and passed.
Their lordships then adjourned.

11011Sg -OF
,CO:NiIrESTERDAY.)

The SPBAKEZ toak the chair at the usual hour.
A puruber of petitions were presented praying for a
withdrawal, of the irtraht to Mayne Alt. •
::itTHE LATE •SIR CHARLES HOTHAM. '

Lord HOTHA.M. morel an addresi; to ti r rfj49ty,
praying for *pies or extracts of a despatch frOm Sir
Charles Hotham, inclosing tha speech which he delivered
atAhe opening of,the Legislative Council of Victoria on
the 231 of November, 1855, together with the ansWer
to- it. And also •for a copy of a. despatch from the
Acting-Governor of Victoria, announcing the death of
Sir- C. -.Hotharn ; and of despatches from the Secretary
ofState on the same subject.—Agreed to.