The Sun.
London, England, 1856-12-23 00:00:00

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MAJESTY'S BOA 1W OF WOBICS.

Thwaitee, the Ceairinan of the Metropolitan
Board cf Works, accompanied by Mr. Woolrych, the
clerk, and Mr. B izalgettc, the enegi eer of the board,
waited on Sir B. dial!, her Majesty'e, Chief Comrnieeiener
of Works and Public Buildings, yestarday, at White-
hall-place, for the purpose of submitting to the ri ht
hen baronet the nee pan of outfall for she main drain.
age of the metr pull which had been prepared in ac-
cordance with the suggestions of Capt. Burstal, the Go-
vernment engineer, and which was Adopted by the Me-
tropolitan Board on Tuesday last.
!Ir. THWAITES said he waited on the right hon. gentle.
man for the purpose of formally presenting to him a plan
relating to the main drainage of the metropolis which the
Metropolitan Board had adopted, embodying the sug-
gestions of Capt. Burstal, which were made to a deputa-
tion of the beard a short i.ime ago as to the outfall of the
sewage. The plan was marked B*, and he believed it
would be found to be in conformity with the arrange-
ment which was on that occasion made as to the point
of outfall. Mr. Bazalgette was prepared to give any
explanation the right hon. gentleman might desire.
Mr. Bazdgette having pointed out the alterations
which had been made in the plan, Mr. Thwaites, at the
request of the Chief Commissioner, affixed his signature
thereto.
The CHIEF COMMISSIONER—I see by the plan you hare
just placed before me that the °naafis are precisely in
accordance with the sugeeetions wade by Capt. Borstal.
I wish to impress upon your minds that those sugges-
tions were merely in reference to the nearest point at
which byanyposii bility the outfalls mold bemade in corn-
reiarree with the provisions of the stem te. So far, there-
fore, I conceive the Metropolitan BoarG' of Works have
entirely complied with the provisions of the act, and I
accordingly accept the plan, with the intention of taking
the course which I wilt now exp!ain to you. I think it
extreuselydesirable, in relation to a work of t.`iis enormous
magnitude, that we should have the very beret adviceand
counsel that can be possibly procured. Ties course,
therefore, which I propose to take is to nominate three
gentlemen, two of them civil engineers, and one a mili-
tary engineer (end I will endeavour to select three of
the most experienced men that can bo found), to whom
I a ill refer all your plane, accompanied with instruc-
tions, the nature of which I will now state to you. I
shalt in the first place direct their attention to the Me-
tropolis Local Management Act, 18th and 19th Viet., c.
120, and especial y to the clauses 135 and 136 of that
acne By the Eist of those sections power is given to yon
to make those great works. a full deseription of which I
shall net forth in the instructions. By the second of
those sections the approval of the Minister who may be
at the time the Firet Commissioner of Works is made
necessary before any plan con be c irried out. I next
propose to send to those referees, as they may be called,
curies of the several reports which have been presented
to you by your engineer in relation to the various plans
which have from time to time been submitted to you ;
and I shall he obliged by being furnished with four copies
of each of those reports. I ,hall also give to these three,
gentlemen copies of Captain Borstal's two letters in re-
ference to the flow of the tide in the river Thames, be-
cause I think the contents of those letters may be very
useful to them in their itivestigetion of this matter. There
:s tine print wnich I th nit it right especially to name to
you, which is that I shall direct their very particular at-
tention to a fact not ccntaine in any report, but which
was mentions-I in a vtate•uent made by your engineer at
the interview we bad, acid which was reported in the
papers of the 21-t of Nevetneer last, as to the amount of
the di=charge of sewal.e. There are at present some very
great diecrepaecies on Ullt point, and it will be neces-
sary ler the three gentlemen to be appointed to obtain
the most accurate iofcrination iu respect to that parti-
cular ; beeati,e the respective eizea the drains
and the re-ervoirs must neceeearily be determined by
the amount of sewage that will fiuw down to werda the
ricer. But I shall go much further than that. I
think, as I staeed befere; that we ought to have the
very best plan the ingeeui.y of man can devise in rela-
tion to this scheme; therefore I shall tell those gentle•
men n t t h confine themselves merely to the p.an sub•
mined by your board, but I shall desire them to give nie
the very fullest infortnatieu upon this eut ject, and that
if they can devise eery other sehetne which they may in
their judgment consider better calculated to attain the'
of ject in view, I shall desire them to set forth all the•
particaare cf any such schetee in order that I may lay it
beim-a you for your c msideration. I.think that this
course on my part Is rendered essentially necessary in
com:equeuce ut the steps which you yourselves must
take in relation to the raising of the money required to
carry out these works. Government cannot advance
motley to so large an amount as you require until that
aunmet shall have been sanctioned by Parliament, and I
am quite sure Parliament will desire, before any such
sanction is given, that the whole question shall be con-
sidered in the way I have now sketched out. When
Parliament shad see that men of the best qualified minds
in relation to this matter have been exercising their
talent on the subject they will be much more likely to
sanction the advance than if they thought I had confined
myself merely to the consideration of one plan. The
plan you have now submitted to me fixes the outfalls
at the points referred to by Captain Burma!, and which
are 15 miles below London-bridge. But we are well
aware that it is desired by the inhabitants of the towns
and districts bordering on the Thames below the 15
miles' point that the main sewer should be extended, and
that the outfall should be carried still further from the
metropolis, provided the funds can be obtained for the
increased expenditure which that extension would render
necessary. I shall therefore desire these three engineers
to report to me whether, in their opinion, there is an,
other poiat of discharge still further down the river
calculated to meet the requirements of those districts.
If so, I shall desire that when they submit a plan
for such an extension of the main sewer that they.
at the same time set forth the increased cost conse-
quent upon any such extension, and the benefits_to_bo de-
rived by the districts through which the extended main:
drainage will pass. I shall desire them also to state how
far, in their opinion, those districts should be required to
contribute to the expense of such extended works, having.
from relation
that
a tot
extension the benefit
and then
aws!)
oi cfhotohuorssee,diitstirsicntso t wmoyuld intentionderive
onpstoriujoctaionlasrgtoorimaopmosethuapoontthhoeyiwilhoaubidi-
if the main sewer stopped at B.
only
tha'ngtisvoinfgthtehemgeetri
lypaeyught they to be taxed, unless there
they would come in on the same terms that are
Ttobetrhwati'eexhteanyte
applicable
the kingdom. Bet it certainly •
to the rest of
should be a general taxation for the works,
is very de-
sirable, as the people in the vicinity of the Thames are
of opinion that the main sewer should be carried further
down the river, that these three eminent engineers
should well consider the subject, so that we may have it
fully Wore us previous to any appiicatiou toParliament.
A great many plans have been drawn u
pby various per.
sous in relation to this main drainage scheme. I shal
refer all such persons who may wish to be heard on their
respective plies to these gentlemen, and I feel confident
they will give iull attention to any plans that may be so
brought before them. I shall conclude my letter to them
by expressing a hope that they will report their view*
upon the whole question of the main drainage and out-
fall for the metropolis and other districts at the earliest
period possible, consistently with a full consideration of
a subject which is so important in its character, and the
completion of which is so much desired by every one.
Mr. TIIWAITES said, as Sir B. Hall had expressly stated
that, should the works be extended beyond the points in
plan BT`, it would not be at the expense of the metro-
polls, be had no observation to make on that
he nor thepoit.
He could a-sure Sir 13. Hall that neither
than
Metropolitan Board generally had any other
. idea
that their utmost sifting. No
plan should undergo the
very
plan
doubt, for a work of such magnitude, the best
ought to be obtained. He apprehendedt an opportunity
ith the
would be afforded to Mr. Bazalge
toe to confer w
inted to investigate
three engineers who would be app
vernmen t.
the plan now submitted to theca
d he would furnish the
The CHIEF COMMISSIONER
board with a copy
to those gentlemen,
•
of
his
instructions Bazal-
and at the same time he
o wuld desire that
ive them All the aMr. ssistance in
Bette should attend, and g
his power.
id their engineer WAN anxious per.
Mr. TRWAITES
gnad the board was also ready to afford
sonally to do so,
jail
their power, so that the engineers
everyytodoso,
assistanchee
Government might thoroughly under-
employed by t
what they had to perform.
stand SSIONER—VireiI, now I lope we
The CHIEF COMMI
shall bring this difficult question to a close.
Mr. T
_EINVAITES—I hope so, too.
The interview then terminated.

BARON WARD.—Baron Ward, the late Prime Minis.
ter of Parma, and Regent to the late reigning Duke, and
now possessed of princely estates in Austria, was born
at Howden, in Yorkihire, and came to London as a
stable-boy, and served as groom to several noblemen ;
he then went to Italy as a stable-boy, became racing
groom to Baron Lowenberg, and then to the Duke Of
Lucca, and afterwards, on his abdication, to hie son the .
Duke of Parma, in whose household he rose by degrees
to fill the most important position in the countrp—ne
Household Manager.

DINNERS A LA-RUSSR.—The style of dinners a la Busse
was first inirainced into France and England at the
peace of 1814, out of compliment to the Emperor of
Russia. There is no doubt but that tne style is ancient
even dating as early as the Cmsars, when it was the ens.
torn to send the dishes to table as hot as visible. Thie
style, like many of the Roman dishes and sauces (the
gay um, for instanc.), still exists in Constantinople, from
the inhabitants of which, we have no doubt, the Rue•
kiwis have taken if,—Thc Bouolua Manager.

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for instance, be a,,,ked to establish :‘s a principle that4tehjs
loyalist party have the exclusive cl•-oit a l'insurrectibi ,V;:f . J.-FA i4'. /..,`, '''
and they will rise as one man. TlLas rising they ha4....."'-'Y *•"------''
hut to send 2,000 sharpshooters in;to Lomtardy with iki/ a. s
Italian leaders at their head, the same into Germany, and I
again across their eastern frontier into France, where,
between Dijon and Lyons, reside the zr, ost disaffected of
his Imperial Highness's subjectF, and we have Europe
in a blaze at once. We have but to recall the
Italian war of 1843, to remember the, troops offered
by the Federal Government itself to the Italian people
when refused to the retrograde faction. We have tut
to remember the 2,000 volunteers from the Canted
of Vauo, who came forward to fight for Italian
liberty, and we may' be sure that gratitude alone, had
they no views of their own t.) second, would insure the
aid of the Italians to the Swiss in their revolution.
Will Napoleon 111. risk this conflagration, or shall
we have a mock trial and acquittal of the regal conspi•
rators ? It an acquittal, wilt it suffice the Swiss, or will •
they stand out, not only for the appearance but for the
reality of the rights and privileges, so hardly won, so
cmirageously sustuined hitherto, of the sole republic still
existing in Europe ?-oorrespondott of the Daily News.