The Sun.
London, England, 1802-11-24 00:00:00

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, zBO2.

disapprobation ; he.seemed to.consider the present;
as an experimental Peace ;, btit" it 'was with satis-
faelion he felt himself disposed to agree with a
Noble Viscount, who thought the People, were now
unanirnoui,in a deteemination to support the honour
of their Country, and to resist the overweening
ambition of our ancient. Rivals; apd he stated sonic
instances in which he 'considered the late Enemies of
the Country as having aded in a fraudulent and
perfidious manner.—He. thought a vigorous and
spirited line of condud could alone extricate t) is
Country from its perilous situation ; they should
boldly look the danger in the face. Peace, he seemed
to say, was ten times more necessary to France, and
particularly to the First Consul. The consideration,
even were it true, of our having no Continental
Allies, should not dismay. us ; we shouldetrave rite
less to' clog our operations, or to divert our re-
sorrces.—France, he conceived, to be surrounded
te:,/ _inveterate -enemies, wlu only waited for the
moment in which they could effedually declare
themselves ; in that view, all the chances of War,
would be in our favour.--.Spirit, unanimity, and a
due confidence in our internal resources; would
effelually enable us to resist the unwarrantable
ambition of France. .It waslherefOre with pleasure
he perceived these indications of spirit and firmness
now manifested by the GOA',ernment.
The Earl ofcAßLis CE obserVed, that,he shotild
indulge no triumph on beholding the recent tonclud
of Ministers, which he conceived was .a derelittion
of those principles on which they had aded, when
he last ifad'occasion to express his opinions there..
on. .He. took
,no merit for foreseeing, as he then
had declared, the inevitable consequences of their
condud. 'Speaking' of-the late Treaty, (so we un,
derstood his Lordship)„ -he said, it forcibly brought
into his recolledion a trite' observation of Dr.
Johnson, who, on being requested to give his opi-
nion of a certain Poem, said, he thought there
were many men, women, and children, 'who could
compose as. good a one—and so he thought of the
Measure in question. He was happy, that a high-
er tone than. usual was adopted by Ministers. .Fle
.had to hope, that their anions would correspond
with their professions ; and he thought for that
part of their conduCl, which went to lower and
.depress the Public Spirit, Ministers stood re-
sponsible.—lf there existed, the spirit and •ener-
gy in the Country which was 'lately alledged,
he would ask, why that spirit and energy was
not resorted to before, and ere so many humi«
hating and important sacrifices were suffered to he
made to France : every day some new agrandize-
ment took place, and to which the conclua of this
Country eventually contributed. In this part of his
Speech the "Ne' 4-lie Earl adverted. to, the C:essic
with ez tad bten' maae, at the same lime there were
parts of the Address which he approved of. Many
points conneded with the general subjed furnished
grounds for fair discussion on future opportunities,
hut in the present instance some_points in the Ad-
dress breathed such a spirit, and seemed of such a
salutary tendency, that he did not mean to oppose it.
The Duke NORFOLK made a few observations
on some parts of the -Address,. and expressed. his
hope that the words he alluded to would import no
more than,a determination to interfere on occasions
wh6e the real honour and interests of this Country
were afieded,..and not Upon trivial Or ordinary oc
casions.

The LORD CHANC LiOR then, after reading the
Address; put the question thereon, when
Lord GRENVILLE rose, and delive'red his sen-
timents upon the subjects in debate at tome-length.
He cordially agreed with what had been unani-

mousty admitted, that the present circumstances of
the Country were 'the most critical in which she

was ever placed, 'and that the new Parliament

assembled at a period aWfUI and anxious beyond all
former precedent, and when the public expectation
was more than ever alive ; that they may learn the
real situation of the Country, whether it was to be
suffered to continue in a state of crouching and
humiliation, or whether the War was to be renewed

under circumstances the most perilous and disadvan-
tagemis. The Speech and the Address, he observed,
contained three leadi proppsitions, and with
which he was disposed to agree ; the first of these
contained a elect- dnd deckled censure upon the
condua of the present Government, whose duty
it was to have kept a jealous and watchful
eye upon the occurrences of the Continent. The

next proposition was, that no material change
in the Powers of Europe could be viewed with in-
difference, This doctrine was, however, contrary
to every principle and argument which was advanced
in support of the Peace ; and in another view, he
would ask, have not the most material changes
taken place in Europe, and has any attention been
paid to them ?---Did not even in the period of Ne-
gotiation France acquire Louisiana in America, and
Italy in Europe, without its vary-ir..,va tittle of the
condua of Ministers,' though they had negotiated'
with arms in their hands ? In last, it appeared, that
the more powerful France grew, the more advanta_
geous the terms were rendered to her. Nay,
even before the ink was wet, or the„ wax cold,
upon the Treaty, Piedmont was suffered to be ad.

ded to the extended Territories of France: Speak-
ing Of the conduCt of•flie:Negotiation, he censured
the mode in which the King of Sardinia was treated ;
of whose spirit, and his fidelity to this Country,
his Lordship stated some instances. He also cen-

sured the conduit of Ministers in not interfering in
the important case of the German arrangements.—
Perhaps, he said, Ministers thought Germany form-
ed no part of Europe, or that the concerns of the
Empire were of no importance to this Country.
--On this occasion they did not even complain,
though the Constitution of Germany was as much
subverted as that of Switzerland, and hex :Cerrito.