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LONDON, FRIDAY, MAY 23, 185

In the House of Lords last night,
The Property-tax Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The Earl of CARLISLE moved the second reading of
the Episcopal and Capitular Estates Management Bill.
The provisions of the Bill embodied the recommenda-
tions contained in the reports of the Commissioners
presented last year, and if the second reading were car-
ried he should propose that the Bill be referred to a
Select Committee.
The Bishop of LONDON opposed the Bill.
Tha Duke of RICHMOND and the Earl of HARROWBY
recommended that it should be read a second time, in
order to be referred to a Select Committee, a recom-
mendation in which Lord STANLEY concurred.
The Duke of BUCCLEUCH opposed the second reading
of the Bill. A conversation followed, in which the Mar-
quis of LANSDOWNE, the Bishcp of OXFORD, the Earl
of ABERDEEN. and several other Peers took part, and
on a division the second reading was carried by a ma-
jority of eighteen, the numbers being—Contents, 46;
Non•contents, 28.
In the Commons,
New writs were ordered for Newry and Argyllshire,
Mr. EWART moved the following resolution:—" That
it is expedient that the investigations which have been
made in the laws inflicting capital punishment in England
be extended to Scotland, and (as far as possible) to the
colonial possessions of this country."
Mr. Fox MAIILE and Sir GEORGE GREY agreed with
the spirit of the resolution, but leered difficulties would
be found in carrying it into effect. Mr. HUME expressed
a hope that Government would take up the subject; and
Mr. HAWES explAined the practice in the colonies. Ul-
tim ,tely the motion was withdrawn.
Mr. W. J. Fox moved, "That it is expedient to pro-
mote the education of the people in England and Walea
by the establishment of free schools for secular instruc-
tion, to be supported by local rates, and managed by
committees, elected specially for that purpose by the
ratepayers.
Sir GEORGE GREY opposed the motion.
Mr. HUSIE thought the property of the country was
bound to afford education to those who wanted it.
Mr. A. B. HOPE was opposed to all schemes of educa-
tion that did not give the utmost development to religi-
ous opinions.
Colonel THOMPSON asked, why mix up religious in-
struction with matters with which it had no necessary
connexion? Was it absolutely impossible that boys
and girls should be taught to read and the like without
teaching them religious dogmas at the same time?
Mr. TRELAWNY looked upon sound instruction as
affording an additional check against crime. Even
on the ground of economy the motion ought to be adopted.
Mr. W. PATTEN opposed the motion.
Mr. WicnAm did not think the necessity of the lower
orders a reason for adopting a general scheme of edu
cation.

Mr. ADDERLEY considered the advantages of ,the pro-
position obvious, and the necessity equally plain.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL contended that no system
of education could be complete that did not include reli-
gious superintendence.
Mr. COBDEN wished to keep scholastic education to
its proper ground, and that was secular training.
_ Sir R. H. Imams never would admit the right of the
State to educate its subjects without reference to religion.
principle,
Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT believed that no system of
education would be successful that did not fully develope
the,rel• •
iglous principle
Mr. It".„ •
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The
Mr. liopcns
ORTH, being an advocate of the voluntary
would vote against the motion.
„,ouseply. from Mr. Fox,
.4i'or %Dlrivided. The numbers were—
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away with the present 8
objection opposed the
The CHANCELLOR of the E credit.
away with the exist-
character to that
motion though he had no
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to that part of the
proposed measure which would do
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evenings Atter a discussion of a similar
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It would be too much to expect that any under-
taking, however excellent the motives which may
have originated it, or the manner in which the details
of its execution be carried out, should succeed in
ensuring universal satisfaction. It is not, moreover,
generally speaking, the characteristic of JOHN BULL
to view matters en couleur cle rose. A vein of
rumbling is apt to be developed even amidst his
Moat hilarious moments. We are not, therefore,
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tojaabnihttio
yco:siderable extent to hear of the
_voice of discontent and lamentation rising in-
harmoniously here anhdaiiinthgerte
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