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London, England, 1851-06-24 00:00:00

LONDON, TUESDAY

EVENING, JUNE

witnesses for the defendant stated that he was present at
this particular visit; and ad4ed ti a:. the d. fondant had
said, if du. really were gointc home to live as a toed
girl, it she would call upyn hint the next morning he
w-uld give her the nece,.sary sum to pay her tare 'o
Exeter. some time since the plaintiff went to the de-
findaut'a chambers in Gray's-inn a! a time when he had
a gentlemau of the name of Coop r taking coffee with
him. and tpon that occasion, in the first instance, she
had pulled the bell with great violence. The defendant
went ,o see who •it was, and on opf-ning the door the
plaintiff attempted to force her way into the chambers.
This the cefendant resisted, whereupon the plaintiff
assailed bin with a volley of abuse The defendant
thereupon called out to his friend Cooper to go and
fetch a policeman. Ilowever, without the aid of that
personage, the defendant at length succeeded in shutting
the door, leaving the plaintiff on the landing-place. The
plaintiff was not to be filed, and therefore she soon re-
commenced her attack upon the bell, which attack, as
one of the witnesses for the defendant said, must
have lasted, as long as half an hour at least, accom-
panied by abuse. The defendant, with his friend, ulti-
mately went to the door a second rime, and the door was
no sooner opened than the plaintiff, more violently than
b: fore, tried to effect an entry into the ehambers. Of
course this fresh effort was resisted with increased vigour
on the part of the defendant, who kept hold of the doer,
and opposed,her entrance with his body. The defendant
ultimately forced her back, when she called nut, " Cary,
ee has locked me; eime up" A woman, whose name
subsequently, proved to be Mrs. Stephenson, thereupon
aims up froa the lower landing, and soon afterwards the
plaintiff felt down. The defendant then closed the door.
Evidence we,
given to show that the plaintiff was near
her confirm:met at the time of the all. gad ani•ault, and
that what heel caused her to fall had been a kick, from
which she hel sustained her injuries. The witness Ste-
phenson said that had it not been for her assistance the
plaintiff woull not have been able either to rise from the
place where the had fallen in cons. qtrence of a kick. or to
regain her iane. That evening the plaintiff suffered
great pain, and she was cumpell. d to foment her stomach,
and on the next morning medical advice became requi-
site. For these injuries and results the plaintiff now
claimed compensation.
On behalf of the defendant it was urged that there
had been no kick given by that gentleman; and that in
truth there had been no more force used to prevent the•
plaintiff from f ffecting an entry into the chambers than
was absolutely necessary. And then as to the claim of the
plaintiff upon him, as the father of the child of which she
was delivered in April last, it was contended that there
was no more claim upon that gentleman than there was
upon any other particular individual, seeieg that she was
not a modest woman.
Witnesses !ere called, who proved that the defendant
did not kick the plaintiff, that she was a frequenter of
casinoes and caber dancing rooms, and that the i.efendant
was not the only person who had been admitted to the
closest familiarities with her.
Mr. GREENtrooD replied at consPerable length.
Mr. Baron MARTIN left it to the jury to say a bether,
looking at the whole of the evidence which had been
placed before them, they were satisfied that &Iv re had
been a greater amount of torte used by the defendant to
eject the plantiff f,-om his chamber., in the way and
under the circumstances which they had heard, than
was fel, ly andreasonably necessary. If so, th,n in that
case it would le their duty to find a verdict
for the plain-
tiff with such in amount of damages as they might con-
sider she was thtitled to.
The jury, aher some consultation, returned a verdict
for the plaintif—dameges 101.

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CALIFORNIA.—MaiIs to and from California, via the United Steel
are now despatched and due by every American packet.

THE GREAT EXHIBITION.
The total number or persons who visited the Crysts.
Palace dur rig yes'erday wa.. 67,555.
Tno amount received during the day was—
For season tickets
.£2 2 0
At the duors 3.016 11 0

Total reePipts

£3OlB 13 0

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,

HOUSE OF -LORDS, June 23.
APPEALSd
t .
Lord LYNDHURST moved it be referred to the
Censmittee tor Privileges to conaider and report what
course, having regard to the privileges of this House,
ought to be pursued for obtaining the attendance and ad-
vice of the Alas er of the Rolls and other Judges of the
Court of Chancery upon the hearing of appeals. &c.
He considered that the Bill which had been introduced
into the other House for the reform of the Court of
Chancery affected the privili gee of their Lordships'
House. He understood that Bill had been drawn up by
his Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack, and it
did him honour; he considered that Bill would enable
his Noble and Learned Friend to get rid of arrears
in the Court of Chancery. It also provided
for the attendance of equity judges in their Lordships'
House to be consulted in appeals. He had himself been
always in favour of such a measure, and be was sure
that the proposition would meet with the approbation
of the country at large ; but it would be for the
Committee of Privileges to determine how such
attendance could be obtained. Certain he was, it
ought not to be obtained through the medium
of a Bill introduced into the other House of Parliament.
Such a course would be a direct invasion of their Lord-
ships' privileges. Ile therefore proposed that the matter
should be referred to a Committee of Privileges, so as to
have the question determined before the Bill should come
up from the other House. He admitted that it was most
desirable to secure the attendance of r quity judges in
their Lordships' House when their Lordseips were hear-
ing appeals, but that advantage ought to be secured
without any infringement of the rules of their Lord:
ships' House. The judges of the courts of equity
were all Privy Councillors, and he proposed that in con-
formiry with ancient practice, writs of summons should
be issued to them, commanding them to attend their
Lordships' House, as had formerly been issued to all
Privy Councillors. Whether that writ should be issued
by their Lordships at once, or whether a short Bill
should be introduced into their Lordships' Houae,
was a question which he would not take upon himself to
determine; all he would do would be to move that the
question be referred to a Committee of Privileges.
The LORD CHANCELLOR would not oppose the
motion. He had drawn up the Bill with great
cure, and with the utmost anxiety not to in,
fringe upon the privileges of their Lordships' House.
The enactments of the proposed Bill merely placed the
equity judges upon the same footing with regard to
attendance on their Lordships as the common law
judges.
Lord LYNDHURST had no objection to the clause,
he only wished to prevent any infringement of the
privileges of their Lordships' House.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the Bill only gave
the power of summoning the equity judges.
Lord LYNDHURST repudiated the idea of the Ilouse
of Commons giving their Ltnetehips power.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE considered it was s
wise course in the other House to introduce clauses to
make a Bill intelligible. Those clauses neither bad the
intention nor had they violated the privileges, because
their Lordships could not say what would be the effect
of those causes until the Bill should be before their
Lordships.
Lord STANLEY vindicated the course taken by his
Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Lyndhurst). The
sta'etnent of the Noble Marquis that it was not intended
to pass the clause in the other House was all that his
Noble Friend contented for.
The Duke of RICHMOND maintained that the House
of Lords had the right to alginate money clauses. He
hoped that the clause would not be retained in the Bill,
as he should not wish the Bill to be thrown out.
The M titres of LANSDOWNE said that care would
be take u that it should be excluded.
Lord BROUGHAM biped the example they were
about to set would not be followed by the other House of
Parliament in a similar case. When a Bill with money
canoes was sent down to the Home of Commons what,
however, did they de? They were not very likely to
refer it to a committee of inquiry to ascertain if it was
an infringement of their privileges; they were more
likely to take it for granted that it was an interference
with those privileges. With respect to the important
subj-ct of the attendance of the Vice-Chancellors at the
House he felt more strongly the advantage of that ar
tenement. Nothing could be more entirely in accord-
asce with his views than to have the attendance of the
quity judges. As connected with the appellate juris,
diction of the House he wished the matter had been in.
troduced at an earlier period.

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lIORRIBLE TRAGEDY IN AMERICA.
(From the &won Courier, Julie 9.)
One of the most distressing events that has occurred
in this neighbourhood for many years, took place at
Roxbury, on Saturday evening. A man named Ephraim
L. Daggett, of Rope, Me., had been noticed, as if labour-
ing under some religioushallucination, wandering about
the city during Friday, and called at several hout,es.
Ile represented that he was subject to epileptic fits, and
Pleaded great poverty, and begged food. Among other
places, he called at the house of Dr. Train, but the
doctor not being at home, Daggett inquired for the re-
sidence of the Rev. Mr. "I'rafern, and being told where
he was, he left and proceeded in that direction, though it
does not appear that he called upon the clergyman.
On Saturday morning, about eleven o'clock, he called
at the house of Dr. A. J. Cummings, who resides in
Church•place, Ruggles. street, near the Freewill Baptist
Church; he said he way hungry, and that he was willing to
chop wood, or du any other jibs about the house fur his
dinner. He was supplied with fund, and after dinner
loitered about the house until six o'clock, when be was
furnished with tea. The doctor went out about seven
o'clock on a professional errand, leaving Daggett, who
soon after complained of pain in his heart. He asked
leave to sit at the kitchen fire for the purpose of warm-
ing his feet, and permission was granted. He sub.
se eniendY entered the dining-room, still complaining
of pain, took a seat, untied his neck handkerchief,
opened his shirt bosom, and said he wanted to see Dr.
Cummings. His strange manner alarmed Mrs. Cum-
mings, and she asked a Miss Crosby, who was present,
to go and call in some of the neighbours. Miss Crosby.
who was holding in her lap Dr. Cumming's daughter, a
child about four years old, set the litile girl down for the
The moment she did so Dagg
purpose of complyirg with the request.
tering in 4 One for a moms nt, exclaimed, "Itis no
ett rose, and after mut-
uerse head, —she must go." Ile seize.' the child by the hair
of
h Pulled her across his knee, and cut her head
almost al with a rez .r which he drew from his
pucker. The appalled mother attempted to rescue her
sweet innueeee from the grasp of the slaughterer, but she
errs attacked, and sustained a wound in the hart. St e
fieally succeeded in rescuing the lifeless body of her
child, and with it ran into the street, the iefant'a head
dangling over her shoulder, Daggett still in pursuit, at-
tempting tc strike her nettle with the raised rexur.
Tee appearance of the alighted mother, as she ran
frantic through the streets fur help—holding in her arms
Ler almost b,artless child, bleeding from every severed
vein—was a sight too awful to be described. The neigh-
!Mill sown heard her outcries, and upon their approach
Deggett, who had followed Mrs. Cumming,' home distance,
receded to the piazze of the d star's house, arid there cut
his throat in such a manner as to produce death in has
than ten minute s. The scene of Wood was terrible to
nehold—the bitting room and hall if the house, the
piazze outside, and the street adjacent, were stained with
it—but those blemishes can be wiped away. Tee neigh-
bours, who were appalled with what they saw, will
forget the sight; but the recollections of this awful
tragedy will never pass away from the memory of the
motle r.
Dr. Cummings returned in the midst of the confusion.
He found Daggett in his parlour, with his throat cut from
sac to ear, feed still breathing. He attempted to dress
the wound, but death rendered the task unsuccessful. All
this time the (tooter was unconscious that it Wile the body
of his only child whom he had caressed half an hour be-
fore, that lay bleeding upon the table.
Daggett is supposed to have been insane. His strange
manner the day previous to the murder and suicide
would seem to warrant that supposition. He carried in
his pocket a small Bible, and several times during the
afternoon, and just before the slaughter, he took it out
and pretended to read from it. The razor with which
ne committed the deed be took from a shelf in Dr.
Cummings' kitchen, unnoticed.
Dr. Cummings showed Daggett to remain about the
house due..ng the afternoon, in the hope that in the
mean time be would be able to see some of the city au-
thorities, and obtain for him a permit to the poor house.
He did not regard him as a dangerous person, and
though he seemed demented, there was nothing in his
manner to excite fear.

Lord LYNDHURST did not want to defeat the
clause, but to deal with it in a proper and constitutional
manner.
Lord BROUGHAM thought they ought also to:call
the judges of the Scotch courts in Scotch typeals.
The motion was agreed to.
EPISCOk'AL AND CAPITULAR ESTATES.

The Earl of CARLISLU moved that leave be given
to the petitioners, praying to be heard by counsel
against the Epi.copal and Capitular Estates' Manage-
ment Bill, to be heard bpfure the Select Committee on
the Bill (whose petitions were prevented on the 15th,
16!1), 19th, 22d of May, and Li, 6th, and 19th of this
instant June).
Lord 13‘ IRTMAN said that the course proposed by
the Noble Earl was unusual, and opposed to the rules of
the House. Nothing could be more fatal to the passing
of an important measure, in accordance to the princi-
ples of sound justice, than to hear the antagonistic dis-
cussions of counsel, who were instructed by those having
extreme views on the subjt.ct, and as a precedent it
would be highly ineonvenient; fur it they admitted
counsel in those cases why not admit them in the case
of any other future petitioners? He should say non-con-
tent to the motion.

After some conversation, in which ,the Earl of Har-
rowby, the Bishop of Salisbury, the Duke of Richmond,
and other Noble Lords t .ok part,
The Earl of CARLISLE consented, at the suggestion
of the Bishop of Salisbury, to withdraw his motion,
which was thereupon withdrawn accordingly.
The Duke of NORTHUMBERLAND presented a
•ion against the navigation-laws from shipowners and

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QUARREL I EAI 7'HE BARBERS
AND WIG--11AKERS OF BERLIN.
A Berlin correspondent tells the following ludicrous
story, showing the absurd extent to which monopoly
orrusGsiovetn
rheet division of lanour, is carried in
a "
irons The new trade laws, and the restric-
they have introduced as to guilds and
occupations, have caused a violent quarrel between
the barbers and the wigmakers ! The latter
claim an exclusive right, according to the statute, to out
the hair of the i;
public; the baroers insist that their
profession is not limited to shaving. The argumehts,un
both sides had to be formally heard by the magistruoY,
whose judicial gravity was s. verely tried on the 00.
cosion. It was solemnly urged on behalf of the barb-rs
that, in the abstract, there is no distincion between
the hair of the chin and the hair of the head; the
form of the inslument used to remove it did not all'. cc
the question; ehether the op..ratton was performed by
the razor or scissors was a matter indifference. The
office of the barber was to remove superfluous hair
wherever it grew: ergo, they bad as good a right to
clip a.; to mow. The wig-makers'
evading the abs race
question of right, represented that the barbers du not
(aniline themselves to clipping, but comb, blush, trim,
curl, oil, wash, anoint, euJ otherwise dress and adorn the
heads of their customers, and that these higher branches
of the arc belonged of right to the wig- makers, woo
alone can legally
joined by an objection, as fatal as that in the celebrated
create a chevelure. The barbers re-
case of Shylock V. Antonio (in Snakspeare'el reports).
They contended that the business of the wig-mikers
only began where that of the barbers ended, when
there was no hair left to cut; with perfect baldness the
head became the property of the artist in perruques,
and at this point the barbers were ready to abandon it,
retaining only a right of property in the chin. The ma-
gistrates considered the force of the objection, mad the
barbers have triumphed. The above is only a repro-
duction of the arguments really used be fore the Court
which decides such disputes, and they occur daily.
It may be said that all the trades of Berlin now sue each
other Cu establish what occupations belong to one guild
and what to another. If Ali the claims were listened to,
we should shortly arrive at an Oriental division of em-
ployments, and to get one article complete it would be
nee, ewe to go to half a di Zen shops for the component
parts of it. Fortunately this splitting up is no longer
possible."

Others
REGISTRATION OF ASSURANCES BILL.
The amendments of the report, on this Bill were agreed
to, the clause relating to maps. on the suggestion of Lord
Lyndhurst, being I,mic'ed. The Bill was ordered to be
rad a third tim to-cnortow (this d
VE tERINARY SURGEONS' EXEMPTION BILL.
This Rill passed throukh Committee.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS. June 23
ECCLESIASTICAL TI ULES ASSUMPTION BILL.
(Continued from our Fourth Editiou of last night.)
Mr. NA. PIER said the oath in the Act of 1829 had
been originally taken from the 13th and 14th of George
111. In Ireland. The distinction between the oaths taken
by Protestants and Roman Catholics had been made to
relieve the conscientious scruples of the latter; but the
amendment proposed by the Hon. Member for Midhurst
neither touched nor created any doubt which any Hon.
Member might feel. but would rather have the effect of
dispelling doubt. Now although a good deal of time
might besaid to have been szt-nsumed in those discussions,
he could not think it ought to be considered wasted if
they could at last come to a clear understanding on that
Bill.—(Hear.) The opinion of Sir Edward Sugden, re-
lative to those oaths, expressed at a public meeting in
Surrey, he conceived was sufficiently explanatory, and
coating from such an authority, that opinion could not
be controverted (The Hon. Member here read an ex-
tract from the speech in question, in which there was a
contrast drawn between the two °whs.) In the Act re-
gulating the diplomatic relations with Rome the Duke
of Wellington had been careful to introduce a proviso
preserving all the original Acts in their integrity, by
which the powers of the sovereignty
.of this court.
try wire secured. With respect to the title of head of
the Church, that had been objected to by Elizabeth.
The special statute of Henry VIIL had never been
in force in Ireland, although the cowmen law still
preserved the right to the Sovereign. There ought to
be no confusion about the meaning of the present
Act—no misunderstanding whatsoever relative to it.
lie thought there was no substantial
difference between
i the words and the principle nvolvt d in the amendment
of the Hon. and Learned Member for Midhurat and the
preamble of the Government; but the lion. Member'
amendment had this advantage, that t was not framed
for another Act.—(Hear.) The Bon. member's amend.
went a:so
pointed to a particular offsnce which was set
out distinctly. There was, however, no principle in the•
preamble or other parts of the Bill of the Qeyernmeng

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v hich was not contained in the womb of the ancient
.. any other oeurse than the ones they had adopted. constitution of this es ,1111trV.—( teear,)
The Al' FORNEY-GENERAL sad he tvouli mike 1 speech noon [le table, handed iu fiufteen tel:
; were the oases ? The Gel/enter, soon alter he lsit,Vl What
only one observatien In reply to the Hon. and Issidned , upon diffe.reht metiers. amongst watch ware. thef
Gentletnate L eland seem thst some eouot had ben I supple-me-la! estinastes of 1850 and the estimates of
raised by the Act of 1829 as to the power possessed 1851. Then came the bone got contention. The
by foreign prieees or potentates. Now he (the Attie.- members referred to said they were not sent Y.
Llverpaei - July ney-General) would admit of no such dome. He could the people to pass any
and
Liverpool July not agree with the lion. Member for Mayo on that what wets necessary to constitute 'he Government,
took
,siouthatriet. Juno
point. He denied that there could be any doubt as to they refthoi to proceed. 'fwo divisions, therefore,,
Inyusouth Jai), eitimrtes, or t• do anythieg bit!
Dover .. June the constitutional declaration which was re (attired to be place, and these four mem)), rs, finding the Government Dover .. Dana made, and therefore he could not see why they should determined to persevere, at once retired. To show that
.
Southampt. July
Southampt. Jul introduce into the preamble of the Bill anything which they were right in the course they took, public meetings
Southampt. July would admit that there were doubts on the subj• ct. If were held which approved of the course that bad been
Plymouth.. Ju y there was no substantial . difference, as - the Hun. and taken. There was another
Dover .. June Learned Member for the University of Dublin said, be- namely, the probability of our being freed from the fur
Southampt. July
as fat
Southampt. Ta. Th.Sa tween the proposed amendment and the preamble ther expense of maintaining the colony
the
a_.•
Southampt. July 20 as it stood, why introduce into that preamble some- as regarded any warfare arising fromp s,
point of some impottance--.
Dover .. ewleaeally thing uonecessary, that might be offensive to the Roman session of that colony.—(Hear, bear.) Public,
Dover .. June sO
was agreed
Catholics? That was not the act of a part of the Le- meetings were held at which a declaration . .
London .. Tues. Sat
London .. Mok.Thri gtslature, but the united act of the entire body, cote- to defray the exenses of any such
Lord,
the Nob
Southampt. July 20 posed as it was of Roman Catholics as well as Protes- was granted tot them. He entreated
Holyhead.. Twiced •
colony, for our
tents. He would therefore put it to his Hon, and if he had any regard for the state of the
Southampt. July v
Dover .. July Lamed Friend whether it was worth his while to in- finances' at home, and for the promotion of peace, nut
.t
to the
troduce words which might hurt the feelings of his allow any further delay to take place in granting
were
wars if a constitutionntitution
Roman Catholic fellow-countrymen, and be of no use to colony those institutions which, by let era pat'"
an
the 1111?—(Hear.) promised them. He (51r. Hume) had prepared . e
cession
Mr. MOORE explained that what he intended to say, amendment to add to the vote, emoodying the views la
and did say, was, that rawly believed the Act of 1829 had just expressed; but, fur fear he would occasion
not
was meant as a recognition by this country that Remsn any embarrassment to the Government, he would n
Catholics might, without any infringement of their press it.
los alty, believe in the Pope's spiritual authority in this Lord J. RUSSELL did not know he couladaarltiindbanyo:
kingdom.—(Hear, hear.) thing to what he had said upon a former ne
Mr. GRA r CAN said the cause of all the confusion in reference to this subject; but he would endeavour to
which vhey were invelved was this—that they were at- make the views of the Goverment clear uon thel p,nl_aol:
tempi, gto legislate as a Protestant Parliament, upon alluded to by the Hou. Gentleman. l
Protestant principles, for a Roman Catholic people. At- presentative institutions was done in
this way.
wagyr." t oLerttiere
tempts had been made to do the same, which had slit-. patent w• re granted in this country, but they did notinst.._.,
welly failed, by men of greater eminence than those who contain any complete details respecting
10 be
now made the attempt. For his part he regretted that lions. They centained.e, Mere outline, which w.
a.out'
the Government had involved themselves; in such a mea- tilted up by the authorities at the Cape; wh'di I
wse
sure as that they were then discussing. At all events line WUA filled up the representative constitutionthete
the system of legislation which they were pursuing to- riot then immediately to be put in force, but
country,
wards Ireland would, ere long, reduce it to such a con- detaile were to be sent back to this
these
as ilu
(talon that few would wish to live in the country, and it together with the ordinances
would be hardly worth retaining as a possession of the of. These ordinances were to be considered.
wereel
i 's Ministers
Crown.
the Government here, and her Majesty
thought
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, to give such advice respecting them as they
that would be approved
The Committee then divided, when there appeared— suitable and conducive to the
letters pa-
these
For Mr. Walpole's amendment ... 131 What happened on the occasion of
_. e., , lb
Agatnat it ..,, ... ... ... 140 tent arriving at the Cape was
Legislative
Majority against the amendment ... —9 instead of filling up the vacancies in the
.„
wees, thews.
welfare of the colony
Mr. WALPOLE said the preamble, as it then stood, Council by the appointment of
ons of the
deliberations contained no distinct statement of the proceeding against it would give greater weight to the
election,
which this Bill was ap. cially directed. Council it he had a certain number chosen by
the
veil from
Lerd J. RUSSELL said he thought that in the pre- and thus to form a kind of representation e
fortv
amble, as it stood, the re was quire enough to show what booty through. which the new ordinances were to be
was the reason for the introduction of the measure. framed. Sir H. Smith, it appeared, was not very
ace.
Mr. WALPOLE said that the preamble contained no note in the result of these proceedings. Whatever 1 ,"0"
distinct ma ement of the illegality of the brief. He have been the motives of the four gen lemen to whome_ 70
should therefore move, at the end of the preamble, the bad alluded, and he (Lord J. Russe 11) did not nila_,,',..
following words:—" And also to conetitute within these the slight. at degree to impugn their motives, they„,uriuc'ill,
realms, contrary to the laws and customs thereof', a fired so considerably from the mejorill of the kJ°
hierarchy of bishops named from sees, and with titles consisting or official member. as well as representnaninivee
derived from places within these rralms." tor the eastern part of the colony, that, without con
Lora J. RUSSELL said he believed it might be easily dering whether these differences could be recoo 11
understood that it was Intended to erect such sees, and they left the Council, and the mejority were left to
he could therefore see no necessity fur the introduction mine amongst themselves what next was to be d
,_
of that arepedmenr.
the advice of thp law officers of the colony a commis
Mr. DISRAELI said he thought that nothing in the was constituted, and the proceedings of the Legislative
Act Act should be learned by implication. He believed that. Council ceased. The commissiou was to cohowl r
the proposed amendment would effect a necessary ine• whole of the details in respect to the representation ot
prole-resent in the preamble, the colony. It was evident that any further proceedings..l_
originally
The Committee then divided, and the numbers were— by this body would not lead to the result
For the amendment... ... ... 117 contemplated by the Government, because theycould,A
Against it ... .........141
Coe
its "hihniso—,ar.H.
"I'
not send home the ordinances in such a shape as vici'.... Majority against the amendment --24 enable the Government here to take them into
..
eerrions
The question havtug then been put, that the preamble sideration, and to send them back again for the P" r_ve should stand part of the Bill, of their being put into force. Still less could they: 0:15
The Committee divided, and the numbers were— done what the lion. Member appeared to think the
For the motion ... .., ... 200
Against it ... „.
...
... ee practicable—name! to to put inns. diately in force in the
colony a respectable constitution. Then came the ale
ef
0011 in reference to the representations be traa:fir:icie 10
Majority for the motion ... -----161
The House thee, resumed amidst considerable cheers the conduct of these four gentlemen. He wished as
and laughter from the supporters of the Bill. state that it he Lad given any wrong colour to their fn
Lord J. RUSSELL said he proposed to take the con- tives—if he had imputed to there sentiments whiekuste,ici sideration ot the report on Friday ; and on Thursday did not entertain, he was exceedingly sorry for u, Ns
from
he would take a Cenanittee ot Supply, so represented them. —(Hear, he ar.) The authority ho
THE OATH OF ABJURATION (JEWS) BILL, which he spoke was that of Sir 1-1. Smith himself; 7se.,
The House having resolved itself into a Committee on thought that they had intended to resign
this 13111, Mr. BERNAL in the chair, actually did so. (The Noble Lord here read ex
eixtir
Sir R. Li INGLIS said, that although his objection from Sir H. Smith's dispatches of the. 24th SePt,!lfbat
to the principle of the Bill remained ut.altered, be had arid the 30th November, 1850, in confirmation 0!..^...e
no amendment to urge unjust its details in Committee; he had said.) Sir Andrew Stockenstems one of
Pt of
and he should not, therefore, occupy their time by anyto u,sf.
four members alluded to, said it was impossible li
'nets u
protracted discussion upon that occasion. teed then with the estimates, or the ordinary bust
.Live
The first clause, which is also the ouly clause in the the Legislative Council. Now there was lautn; Bill, having been put, whatever in the constitution to induce them to thin ne
'dere"-
helot
otacti 4
Mr. PLUMPTRE said he should follow the course that they were not to take into their cons' The
taken by his Hon. Friend the Member for the Univer- the ordinary business of a legislative council.
should
sity of Oxford, and not divide the House in that stage intention was that any ordinance they framed sueus to
of the Bill. A majority of only 25 Members in a be sent back here, and it approved of it . ,
House of nearly 40u had affirmed the principle of the form the groundwork of a representative instiwtti.t.teof;
measure; and be trusted that that fact would not be lost In the summons for the election of those gentlemen Iv ea sight of in another place. He protested against the Bill was nothing implying that they were to serve only
'.s
as 1110,t painful and offensive to the people of this Chris- the purpose of framing a constitution fur the country 74
tiara couutry,
members of the Legislative Council. In the iiddreet,v,
Mr. WALPOLE was understood to say that the Bill these gentlemen, alluded to, to the Legislative Councst.l,_'..
would place the Jews in a more favourable position than stated that one of their principal objects was to cor...Tel
Roman Catholics with reference to their capacity to hold the formation of a representative constitution. 'Ansi,
various important . ffices.
elt arty implied that it was not to be their whole EILI Colonel sisr to
uotiP said the Bill would render neces- ness. They, however, thought that they ought not ,
sary more special arrangements with respect to Statue oonoid. r those estimates, and the whole proceedings u:
day sittings and the reading of prayers in the House, the Government were brought to a stand. No doubt :He did not believe the Nobler Lord at the head of the large portion of the, colonists were in their favour; bet!
Government cared one farthing for the religion of the he believed that there was also a large portion who too,. country,
an opposite view altogether. What, at all events. was.
Sir R. INGLIS thought the Committee were entitled clear was tbis—that it the had egreed to proceed with
to some explanation from the Goverment with refer. the immediate business brought before them, and had
ence to the point raised by the Hon. and Learned Mem. drawn up the ordinances and sent them home, they
her for Midhurst (Mr. Walpole.). would, befure this time, have received that constitudoll
The bOLCIIOR-GENERAL said the exclusion of tney weie so desirous of obtaining and it would 14)1107
Roman Catholics from certain effices did not rest on re
lige) .:
which
. in full force. It %%a% fur that reaso'n he was induced to
u., but simply on political.grounds. The course of say that these gsntlemen must regret the curse
legtsla ion had recognised it as au established principle they had 'akin. He was, however, sorry to bear that they
that attachment to particular religious opinions as a did not regret the part they bad taken in the ostt
I,
matter of conscientious belief should not operate as an Sir Andrew Stockenstram was, no (fouler, a gentletso,o
exclusion from civil privileges. The reason why Roman who had for many years taken a deep int< rest in 1/I's
Catholics were excluded from certain offiees was, there. affairs of the Cape, of which he was a naive• Ais
fore, he repeated, purely political. The Crown, by the (Lard J. Russell) had no doubt but that he forme.,
Act of Settlement, must be vested ill one who was not a most conscientious opinion of what his duties were. tie;
Roman Cathulie. A Roman Cwholic could not pre- however, thought it was most unfOrtunate that these foot
sent to a living, but a Jew could. A Jew was entitled genelemen had acted in the manner described. It wou a
to all the privileges of a British subject, and have been much better it they had continued their lier'
was only excluded from Parliatueut by are accident. A vices in the Legislative Council and have submitted to the
Jesys to . preseut to a living
case iavolving the right of
majority upon those points. There was great difficulty
circle once before Lord Eldon. A living in the city of in proceeding in the matter here et home, inaanitleb 6,6,
Leaden, which was elective, b came vacant, and the they had nut before them those official documents eV"
question arose whether Jews had a right to vote in the which they should proceed. arl Gre had very ?:
election; and it was decided that Jews had the right, perly instructed the GovernorE-Generay l f r the timePrr
though Roman Catholics had not, ' forma legislative council which oeuld go on with W.
Mr. HUME thought the Noble Lord entitled to great current business of the colony. The case was now 84 we'
credit for having brought this subject forward again and what comptceted. Ahe had b obd, the coir
again, and hoped he would press it forward, - for it wail stitutiun drawn up tvsse but a mereefore outline,erve and could net
only an act of justice.
be reudered etive until that outline was first filled ag
Mr. NAPIER said the Hon. and Learned Solicitor- at the Cape, anti
afterwards a roved of and sanctioned
General had onderV-d that the exclusion of the Jews from by her Majesty's Government at home. He regretted
Parliament was owing to the accidental insertion of cer.. this state of things; he thought it better that a represeir
lain words in'an Act of Parliament, but these very tative constitution should be in full force at the CoPe
words showed that the Legislature of that time assumed There were, no doubt, great temporary difficulties.. andi:
every Member of the House to be a Christian.—(Cheery.) great obstacles in the way of putting a coastitution ,
They had for months been contending tor the earthly force, when the governor, who was td be the ellie_f_r 1:::
supremacy of their Sovereign Lady the Queen; but here the executive, and many of the iohabitants, who were
was a Bill calling in question the sovereigury of our Lord necessary fur its t folive operation, were now at w
and Seviour,
distance defending the frontier from the aggress
l
Lord J. RUSSELL said there was no doubt that they of the enem But still he did not think it woe,'
were perfectly right in doing everything they could to be right that if the war were to continue for an le'
promote the Christian religion and spread Christianity definite period, the represeteiative institutions should be
over the earth, but he much doubted whether Christianity withheld fur an indefinite period.—(Hear.) Under such
would derive any force from civil persecution—(Hear, circumstances a constitutionP sbuuld be framed accordhl
hear)—and it appeared to him that to exclude from i ffice to of theiudgment. As to the second oint °`
and the L+-gislature loyal subjects of her Majesty on no. thisthe greatbest :inject,r hje did I.ot think that the Honopurable
' count of their religious opinions was a species of Gentleman had made it quite clear to the House Wbat
ners.cution not coefornsab.'e with the principles of the nature of that prop. salon was which his frte echt fp,
Christianity.
the Cae wised to cornice, an to on the assent
Mr. NE vV DEGATE asked, whether in the election of this House h
to. The real fact was d that this staio-called cxterl
clergymen to the cures of this country it would be de. sion of the frontier was its move adopted for the sole pa'
cent or fit to invest with any authority those who rejected pose ef defending the inhabitants and settlers in the
Christianity from its very toundarion? They might de- colony of the Cape. It was not for the purpose of empire'
pend upon it that if this Bill should pass a great change There was no other advantage to be gained by this
in the feeling of the people of this country towards that cciur.try by this move than to enable us to defend the
follow. settler. in that colony. He believed that therenerer well
House would inevitably
Mr. REYNOLDS denied that there was any proof of an opinion so generals), entsetr;binyed in the colony as to
the existence of that feeling to which the Roo. Member the best miaie of protecting the lives and the pr p sty Of
had referred. Where were the petitions and public the colonists as the propriety of adopting thaoiceourse
meetings to protest against the admission of the Jews to
Sir Beijamin d'Urbae•
Pediment? In Ireland, he could answer for it, the Iwnhitchhe wiaosanoreirginsatalltyeporciptehino ;
st frequently happened
feeling was almost urandasous in taveur of the emeneire. that , a vast number of Rafirs, well furnished with
tion of the Jews, and he might observe that out of 37 wee ms of attack, made irruptions upon the colonists
.000 liAatfirs, who swept all before them,
Roman Cathulie Members in that House, all but one bad
one tine there were as
voted in that aide on every division, amanynd settlers.
a
Colonel THOMPSON thought the oath should be invading the colony stt a metnent when the colonists least
modified so as to allow.a Member to be sworn on the Old expected such au attack, arid burned and destroyed the
Testament, taking the oath on the true faith of a believer f h
-armadhlaes, Carrying away the herds •d ' the
an murdering
in the Ole Testament, settlers and their f '
writhes. Sir Benjamin d'Urbatt
The Bill then passed through Committee and was approved uf adeenc• beyond
_ mg the frontier, and ot en•
reported, and ordered to be read a third time esn Friday dearouring to govern these people through their chiefs,
next. but still a quasi
3 subj
ects to the British Crown by which
Sir. R. INGLIS expressed a hope that it would not Means we would be enabled to prevent these savage
be brought on at a dine when it was impossible to die- tribes from invading the colonists and settlers. That
cuss it. was the plan whch they now adopted. It was not a
Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that he question nf' extension of territor • •
y. But Katrarts, said
would not bring it on late at night.
borne of the
The House resumed. people at the Cape, was a territory &epee'
The Court of Chancery and Judicial Committee Bill rated from the Capekeep,
which we were bound to defend and
was read a second time.
quiet with the money of Great Britain. He must
KAFIR WAR.
say he did not think that that was a very reasonable pro-
The adjourned debate on bringing up the report f
we
position. It was quite a deception for them to say, if
the Committee of Supply was then resumed, o gave them a constitution they would defend '
their
own constitution from any align ssion, and save this
Mr. HUME protested against the Yule of 300,0001, as country from the expsese of maintaieing any war. That
the first instalment towards the expenses of the Kafir offer appeared very rem tin but whe we
war, which in his opinion was attributable to gross allb• further into it, it simply alp. LA' this, hatet hey, inquiredwouldd. e-
management ~i,„.e, They were about to amerce this tend thatpart of the i e ti against which
. r m erthere was
country in an amount of which they could scarce! f
y orm no prospect ot aggression but would leave the
. . country
an
estimate, without the slightest advantage either to to defend that part whe' a the invading force eas likely
this country or the Cape, fee entreated the Noble to be troublesomeand a e ressive ghat
sg. .• at ,
wculd be
Lord at the head of the Government to review a moat unprofitable bargain for us to
the decd- _ make, His
sant to which he had come g tow bi b
ta ego, and allow hope and belief was, teat these diffsrerecee would
the letters patent granting a r -
to
responsible Government to be soon brought to an end. Nu doubt they ought
the coloniststhe nat Ca ebe put in force. Having to have repreeenta ive institutions, which would
said so WIWI it Was notph•s 1 intention to oppose the vote. generate greater west in the promotion of ihe
I'. was hard that this c
support the expenses
nfouutry should be called upon to interests of the colt by, and in defending the rights of
avoided if they had a r a war. that Might have been the Crown; but, to nun' 'Lint immediete difficelties, the
Cape. The Noble, responsible Government at the Government were cempelled to ask tor a voteoies,
of money
Lord was altogether mistaken when in order to carry the colony threw h
he said that Sirits H. Smith had been thwarted in hire mea- He believed that the lion. Merohir for Montrese and
sures by those very commissioners that he had up- himself had the same end in view,howeverthey•
might
pointed toaid him in his
the t e was not
those gentlemen had shown the most excellent spirit in distant when they would agree g even as to the, means to
the course
which
they had felt it their duty to take, be adopted for bringing about ' ' those results which they ..
The papers which he held in his hand proved that these all so much desired.
four gentlemen, who were elected to fill the vacan- The report was then bro ' •
ught up, and the resolution
ties in the Legislative Council, took a course the very agreed to.
reverse to a hostile one against Sir H. Smith. It THE SMITHFIELD MARKET REMOVAL BILL.
was not, therefore, fair of the Noble Lord to make such The rort, as amended, was considered and agreed to.
a charge against these men. He believed that two of The Generaed___
er Stores Bill went through Committee.
hose gentlemen were at present in England, and so far
CIVIL BILLS (IREI AND) BILL
rum saying that they were sorry for what they had On the mon - t 4 .-
•
On or the Committee on the Civil Bills
done, as the Noble Lord had stated they had so ex- (Ireland) Bill,
pressed themselves, they said, on the contrary, that if Mr BEYNOL •
DS said there were several amend-
the thing were to be done again they would not take me .
went, on •
porttons of the Bill. Re wished to know what