The Sun.
London, England, 1833-08-20 00:00:00

SCAVAGE AND PACKAGE BILL.

The House then went into the London Scavage and
Package Bill. The Bill passed through the Committee,
and the report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow.

ASSIZE REMOVAL BILL.

The Assize Removal Bill was, on the motion of the
LORD CHANCELLOR, read a second time.—To be
committed to-morrow.

Tne Bill for regulating the Care of Insane Persons in
England was passed. _ .

The Housebreaking and Robbery Bill went through a
Committee, and was ordered to be read a third time to-
morrow.

The Uniformity of Process Bill went through a
Committee, and was ordered to be read a third time to-
morrow. _ _

Several Bills were proceeded upon through one stage,
and the House adjourned at ten minutes past eleven o'clock.

IRISH POST-OFFICE-NEWSPAPERS.

The following is the petition presented by Mr. O'DWYER
last nieht :

TO THE RIGHT HONOURABLE AND HONOURABLE
THE KNIGHTS, CITIZENS, AND BURGESSES OF
THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN
AND IRELAND, IN PARLIAMENT ASSEMBLED.
THE PETITION OF JOHN KENT JOHNSTON, OF
THE CITY OF DUBLIN, ADVERTISING AND
NEWSPAPER AGENT.
Mosr HUMBLY Snowern,—That your petitioner last year
addressed a Memorial to the then House of Commons, setting
forth various grievances under which he laboured in his voca-
tion as Newsvender, from the monopoly enjoyed by certain
officers of the Post-office denominated " Clerks of Roads,"
which Memorial was ordered to be printed on the 27th March,
1832.

That petitioner feels himself reluctantly compelled to trespass
again on the time and attention of your Honourable House, not
only because none of the grievances against which he therein
complained have been redressed, but also because of fresh impe-
diments thrown in the way of his business, and of further
and (as he conceives) unjust prerogatives exercised by the
officers referred to, a few of which he will here enumerate for
the information of your Honourable House.
Ist. By the following ingenious expedient the Clerks of
Roads" have contrived to evade all postage on letters either
ordering Newspapers through them or renewing those already
ordered, and also on those containing remittances for News.
papers :---.Every Postmaster in Ireland, acting as their agent,
receives subscriptions on their account, which he is bound to
remit to Dublin, but instead of writing direct to them, which
would incur postage, he is supplied by them with printed
Circular Letters for his use, addressed to A. Godby, Esq., for
Thomas Orde Lees, Esq., Money Order Office, which, passing
free, give the amount paid by and the addresses of New Sub-
scribers, and also intimation of the intention of others to renew
their subscriptions, without any charge for postage to the
Clerks of Roads," who again, by another Circular, have
directed him to notify also changes of address and changing of
one Paper for another, by taking advantage of sending such
Remittance Letter as above described.
2d. The evasion of the postage duties by those clerks is not
confined to their correspondence with their agents the Post-
masters, but is extended to every person receiving a news.
paper through them, inasmuch as they are in the habit of en-
veloping in their newspapers letters notifying the time when
each subscription shall expire, and the mode of renewing it
through the Postmasters, who, as above shown, are instructed
to communicate free of expense.
3d. This practice of maintaining an illegal and secret corre-
spondence post free—a practice contrary to law, and not sanc-
tioned (petitioner would hope) by the Postmaster-General, is
used on other occasions also when it is for their advantage to
resort to it, as was the case lately when printed notices, bear.
ing the signature of the proprietor of the Dublin Comet news-
paper (who had appointed them his sole agents), were enclosed
in his newspapers, and then by them forwardedfree to the

country. - -
'1 hat the conduct of those officers who hesitate not thus to sa.
crifice the revenue to their private emolument, to the injury of
the public, whose servants they are, and whose interests they
were appointed to watch over and protect, is marked by the most
conscientious vigilance and scrupulosity when its discharge in
that manner can be rendered instrumental to the injury of your
Petitioner, as the following example will demonstrate:—
On Saturday, the 10th day of November last, your Petitioner
made up and transmitted by post to Mr. Thomas Kelly, Dun-
dalk, a parcel containing twenty-five weekly papers, which
parcel, to his surprise and to the disappointment of his sub-
scribers in that town, was marked by the Post-office "con-
tains an enclosure," and charged no less than four pounds
four shillings postage, for no other reason than that Petitioner
had neglected to takeout of one of three Comets a miserable
caricature illustrative of an article on the Church which had
appeared in that print.
That your Petitioner craves permission here to quote as applica-
ble to the present time an admission of Mr. Leet, a former " Clerk
of Roads," to the Commissioners of Revenue Inquiry in 1821,
that he, as such, had an obvious interest in the delay of the
Mails"—ana Petitioner quotes this in order to furnish grounds
for inferring that the delay and detention of his Papers in the
following instances, and in many others which he could ad-
duce, were either caused by the" Clerks of Roads " themselves,
who have a palpable and direct benefit by such detention, or
that they in their other capacities of President, Vice-Presidents,
and Senior Sorters of the Inland Office, did not exercise due
superintendence over their Junior Officers, who perform the
duty of assorting and despatching the Newspapers—a duty
which your Petitioner is satisfied must be very negligently per-
formed at times, as he receives frequent complaint of disappoint-
ments and of confusion in the transmission of his papers through
the General Post-office.
Ist. Richard Butler, Esq., of Glengarry, Kingstown, for
some time received one paper through your petitioner and
another through the " Clerks of Roads." The one through
him, though plainly directed to Glengarry, Kingstown, was
not delivered to that gentleman until the day after his receipt
the paper having been for some time before put into the bag
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wfooferrße lackrock instead of that for Kingstown, by the sorting
officer, who, strange to tell, never made the like mistake with
the paper supplied by the " Clerks of Roads." In consequence
of repeated disappointments, and of there having been a
penny charged on each, while the " Clerks' " paper was always
delivered free, Mr. Butler has withdrawn his subscription
from your petitioner.
2nd. George Taaffe, Esq., of Ardee, another of his customers,
has experienced many vexatious disappointments through the
neglect or dishonesty of the servants of the Post-office. His
paper, THE SUN" of Friday the Ist March last, despatched
from London by the mail of that day, which arrived in Dub-
lin on Sunday before 8 o'clock, a.m., ought to have been deli-
vered to him on the morning of Monday, yet it never reached
its destination at all, but was abstracted from the cover by
some person in the Dublin office, who substituted three Dub-
linehT nihsvapchtal:!der:svir inoph which had
s,enatseeddaraedby.,
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muchth as those officers, availing themselves of the opportunities
afforded afforded by their official situations of ascertaining the clubs,
societies, news-rooms, and private individuals supplied with
papersho ethb
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Petitioner, twsi
strioiotfnteetntri,eaihavimeendeavoured to supplant him,
I;plagentisonthsefrpoomsunthasetienrsse:voeffer
themselves, and u
by,
gsfouum,rifanheris_ih,:nusistiataopners to his subscribers, at prices known to be under
the usual rameteeselnth:.er.iaerndalerp:siefitthan what are charged by the trade in
London, and lower than they themselves charge to their own re.
citeisonhearveresgurceetesodhaedving to add, that in
That your Petitioner has presumed to submit the foregoing
necessary details for the purpose of satisfying your Honourable
House that the conduct of the present " Clerks of Roads" is pre-
cisely in unison with that of their pedecessors in 1821, when a
long and particular investigation into the exercise of the ex..
press privilege led the Commissioners of Revenue Inquiry to re.
commend its abolition altogether, because "it is most desirable to
avoid all collision of private interest with public duty," and fur-
ther of convincing your Honourable House that the abrogation
of the prerogative would be followed by considerable benefit to
the cort munity at large
That your petitioner most respectfully but earnestly submits,
on the grounds both of economy and revenue, that the privi.
leges of the " Clerks of Roads" ought to be withdrawn, and the
Newsvending Trade left open to a fair and honourable competi-
tion. That there arc around this city several Penny-post Dis-
tricts, and in the country parts of Ireland 109 Penny-Post
Offices, and that all papers for delivery within their limits,
whether forwarded by your Petitioner or others in the trade, by
private individuals, or by the proprietors of Newspapers them-
selves, are all liable to a postage.rate of One Penny on each
paper, whilst all such as are transmitted by the " Clerks of
qluocant has been that almost the entire of that portion of the" are permitted to pass free of charge ; and the conse
busi„,,,,, passed into their hands, o the certain and serious in-
jury of the Post-office Revenue. Nor is this all —for under their
privilege the " Clerks of Roads" assume the right of transmitting
post free such unstamped publications as the Literary Gazette,

wewor,dpearperar: !lei, ,p0,.,•ei,',.
by which a loss of Fourpence on each paper is 0'
Stamp.office. , tout
Your Petitioner therefore most humbly praY sot,- 0,..-
House to take the facts and circumstances herein _
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JOHN KENT JO
1, Eden-Quay, Dublin, June, 1833.
APPENDIX.—No. 1. Pub
Road,' fe
Extract of the Advertisement of the Clerks of - 03:iialli-'
in Smith's City and County Almanack for "_xce,,iiiptr°
" Orders received by the Clerks of Roads, Post-nus
or by the Postmaster in each town, of whom lists ' '
and prices may be obtained." . ~,163.0f
No. 11.
Roads, in advance for the ffoolrloawminogn
Sir,—l enclose X
1 am, Sir, your obedien iv ,
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Post_office, ofOr
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I have ascertained that the following Subscribers w' pert'
Name of Paper. Name of Subscriber.
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The Circular of which the foregoing is a copy acs p e
Ing endorsation, which permits its passing free, as der
be an advice and remittance to meet a money '9'
Deputy in the country :
Augustus Godby, Esq.—T. Orde Lees, F-514„,ifiee,
Money Order-office, General Fe's
Dublin.
No. 111.
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be your intention to continue to receive the PaPer'intlreil,
may be no interruption of its regular transmission f1'0.,,,,ay. ./
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The subscription to be paid to the Postmaster in P.
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For six months X l'l4
For three mouths X
Ir:i
No. IV.
General Post-office, Dublihe e%P!,,,ototi
give nNoetwicseptage the l'osoo' ostat,
Sir,--In future we intend sending you notices 01 ',ive l'
of subscriptions a clear month in advance. This will r-yos4
runfeurrukal Pyoosut-otrate totbettue,
,i,,
opportunityuut
write t o ou f; ascertaining
specially
respecting those wah
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butrel take
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of any letter you may have occasion to write,yrevlooefies
piration of the former subscription, and notify their ocl,
With respect to subscriptions for Weekly PaPe' the_ziO`
of address, or changing from one paper to another, ito epit
requiring these, if so urgent as to desire you to v,, 00,49.,
on their account, must pay a single postage. TO °”,,,,ifr,if.,
those subscribers, take advantage of sending us an- order
Three Day in the Week Paper, and include thf-af 00
The profit on Weekly Papers is too small to admit°
at expense of postage on orders for them. PA
We are your obedient servants, AO,
THE CLERKS OF
10
No. V. I n.9' .4
Comet Office, 2, Church Lane, -a..ted oyr
Sir,—Your arrear for the Comet Newspaper anaou willPr I/
on the 31st December ultimo, which Y 9.6,, ye ~, Ili
to pay to the Postmaster of your town, together vr_l'.."voldP
scription in advance, otherwise the Comet must Itt'
withheld from you on Saturday next. 'et'i'
I am, Sir, your obedient servant, .propri
JOHN SHEEHAN, ' ~.,t
No. VI. 11 cl °' ii%
Glengarry, Kingstown, APrA tp
Gentlemen,—l beg to inform you that lam oblikSelf
tinue for the future taking an English or Iristtose.lg
through your agency, owing to the great disadvronlo
which your office labours with respect to persons c'n eacb,
as I am. lam obliged to pay one penny postage ° ye 3!, ri'
you send me, and this charge, which at the end of act od r
a serious addition to the cost of a daily Paper, I g. welli et
subscribing through the Clerks of Roads at the.n toll,"
office. How strang, it is, yet true, that if I liveuljoblitpii,
bourhood of a Post Town one hundred miles frornners',o7or
would be no charge for transmittin ~Vuge. ~
but as I live within six miles of the Castle I ant - sivi
postage for them. oblii44tl',
Having at all times found such an anxiety t° a° 0.
ready attention to my wishes on the part of yourselr.ri 101 r,
whom you employ, should circumstances alter 11, too
pleasure in renewing our communications —I reor.o A
RICHARD
To Messrs. Johnston, Eden Quay, Dublin.
, 101/
No. VII.
Gentlemen,—l am directed by the Committee here
room to inform you, that the Clerks of the Roa''',ach, ' ()
to supply London Papers at the rate of 91. Os' - At
them by express as expeditiously as you do. , inorellf
The Committee expect that you will not charg-.g be ,
Clerks of the Roads demand, as otherwise they Will y
change.—Your obedient servant, BRUCE,
Messrs. Johnston and Co. SAMUEL

To T. 0. Lees. Esq.

Name of Paper. Name of Subscriber•

MINORITY
Of 37 (tellers included) who, on the 19th of to e$
voted in favour of Mr. Warburton's moti°n 001'
the legal tender clause from the Baok Charter 0
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Aglionby, A.—Cockermouth' Morrison, J.--Irs bete
Baillie, .1. E.—Bristol . . • Philipi, M.---.114,tt ,
Blake,. Sir F.—Berwick Potter, R.—„"'6l,;rjag'
Brocklehurst, J.—Macclesfield Pryme, G...."rn opt ,0
Brotherton, Joseph—Salford Shepherd, T.—Fr rxel,l .1
Briggs, R.—Halifax Walter, John—Be,too
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Bewes, T.—Plymouth
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Wood, G. NV.--.---
.—Awm'o_vreorilidhaammlets Willoughby,
Divett, E.--Exeter
Ellis, W.—Leicester NID• i
Ewart, Wm.—Liverpool IRELA' ilo
Mx ;
Forster, C. S.—Walsall Jephson, D. 0.--- „,,,isi
Fielden, John—Oldham . O'Reilly, W,....P.2,r,c0re
Grote, Geo.—London ,Ruthven, Ed.--.1',4"0/
Harvey, D. W.—Colchester Vigors, IsL c.....CP'if
Heathcoat, J.—Tiverton Wallace, T.--Carl°
Humphery, J.—Southwark
Howard, P. H.—Carlisle TFLl.Ulqdliftf
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Hawes, B.—Lambeth Hume, Joseg. ,--:_oriti.
Lloyd, J. H.—Stockport Warburton, n•

COWES, AUG. 18•

10011
The celebration of the natal day of her 1103.101
the Duchess of Kent, yesterday, was distin4cu'ivglo
by every demonstration of respect and rejl2l )41 II
squadron, consisting of SO sail, hoisted the "f°o43lc,
ard, and the Club House and Cowes Castle' :jthe B
Marquis of An;;lesea is Captain, also disPia):itbsiil
ensign. The shipping in the harbour heist,'" too
sel
in honour of the day. The Commodore's -c;.ld disc
Vice-Commodore's Water Witch's splePut 01. 1,01
flags attracted universal admiration. At 0 'co
sdr •
salute of 21 guns was fired from the Squ dejalll
The Falcon and Water 'Vetch also fired a feuI that
half-past 12 the Noble Commodore made ''g-„
„sciittPo,4
Royal standard was in sight. The Emerald Yied t,t I
their Royal Highnesses and suite on board, ea'tbe
the fleet ; after which Lord Yarborough and a collo
Belfast proceeded to the Emerald to tong ' Het plu
Duchess on the return of her natal dal" roamed

Highness invited the Commodore and ll'ee hoe,
the Duke of Norfolk, and the Earls of D"reastle,,e
cheater, to a banquet that evening at NorriB ly 0101
The silver cup brought down by an Admi" otiio
early in the day was displayed on the come,
Emerald, filled with fragrant flowers. to jot
The annual review of the pilots b-longiogr
then took place. The vessels, 26 in non3hs,o%gefi
each with two flags, started on a signal frorntibe by
the line being formed according to the al the
tl
vessels. They took the usual course roan bostriji
rounding a boat off the Custom-house. Thecbee
in succession past the E,ntrald. The pilots _per,
Royal Highnesses. The Princess Victoria Oreflie,el
rested and gratified with the whole scene.
each received one sovereign to drink the Duch-te"
At night the inhabitants of East Cowes illu'
dwellings in honour of the day. dd
The band of the Portsmouth division of Insr,,of
from Portsmouth to play during the entertaioo" 4
Castle in the evening.
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Our illustrious visiters have not yet landtbe if/
Cowes ; they, however, were rowed through rd .00
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by 12 oars, the barge having the Royal starly-oh
On Friday afternoon, after witnessing the
Eyes
the squadron, they were put on shore at

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This day their Royal Highnesses and flu '
1)e/
opitc „t
An Admiralty messenger brought dos de dee
yesterday for Lord Yarborough. vesti ~f
Lady Graham paid a visit the day beta yob° 6,
Earl Spencer at Westfield, in the Adroirale.oozhe4
that his Lordship daily e iie YfiftlV
infirm ; be is unable to ascend the stairs' -A
C .. e,,4
constquently, a crane has been constreete-t: tt, 1,71
the purpose of hoisting the Eaintend rl in a chair ir ild tapir°l '
It is said that the squadron to Pr"; oai:.
Bourg after the regatta, where it is exPecte, ibe
take place under the auspices of his Mar;00„01,„/
the French, who will, according to the I: t iP y
melts, reach Cherbourg Ault the 3:flpirsl
remain three days ; Marshal Soult and "` 6
will accompany the King. 0,7
ARRIVALS a the %it,
Countess of Stradbroke, Lady Selina an neerOpli,Ctf
Major and Lady Augusta Baring, 'Viscount ,' sit cil 74,
Conroy, Grenadier Guards (son of Sir John)j 511,1 4/1,
and Lady Mary Cole, and Miss Talbot, 1,°.4,eP ,f, t,
brock, Sir Henry and Lady Rivers, LAY ''-c, It• de,
Blachford, Lord Vernon, Mr. Rigby MurraYl,o *OO }lO,
Esq., M.P., Mr. Algernon Grevine, Sir Thlotiet;l,4.; 0
son, Bart., Earl of Glengall and Loy =1",,,,11,,r, 11,.: A.,/
to the Earl and Countess of Belfast; .-ri., 's'o,
Penleaze, Esq,, M.P., Sir Arthur Paget, i'f'rhot°'
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Capt. Codrington ; also the Markham, Coote,
Corbet, Congreveridies.and r . tlif vi
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cgoovtepretrhmeisbsuiorinedfrioninscrtihpetiir.nPsr.esident, i''' oess°",4Y',l`'
Of ARGYLL, to explore the tombs eh' CoP' "VI
The viaduct, or rail-roam fnre:ra is)-I'°:t 51tts ';(,11
Greenwich is to run from Joiners.streette pool
London Bridge, through Bermondsey, °"fortiitipes
west of St. Helena Gardens, through 11:e di°
the canals and waters to Greenwich•
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