The Sun.
London, England, 1834-03-25 00:00:00

RECORDER OF THE GREAT ROLL.

Mr. SPRING RICE obtained leave to bring in a bill
for the abolition of the office of the Recorder of the Great
Pipe Roll in Scotland.

REPEAL OF THE HOUSE DUTY.

Sir SAMUEL WHALLEY begged to ask of the right
hon. gentleman opposite why the second reading of ti e
House Tax Repeal Bill had been postponed, and whetla r
it %vas trc intent'on of his Majesty's ministers to move-
the second reading of the day named.
Mr. S. RICE was sorry that any degree of public ex-
citement had arisen in consequence of the postponement Of
the bill for the repeal of the house duty, thatexcitement could
only hive arisen from a supposi!i,4lhat it was the i7itt ntion
of his Majesty's Government to abandon the proposition
altogether, which he could assure the house was not the
case. . .

ft was not with any view of abandoning the intention f
moving the second reading of this bill, but with a view to'ithe
conveni•nee of the house that it was postponed. No pO.
oil le inconvenience could arise froin the time of the se-
cond trading, as there wes no intention on the part of his
Alaje,ty's government to aband,il it.

or Sit. S. HALLl>sexpresketi himself &aided with the
expldnati of the rieLt ~ ..---C-se itlenian.
y LAI3OUIt RATE ACT.
Sir C. BUPRELL tore 'o mo'e for leave to bring in a
hil fir the rontiimance of ill, L 4 ,our Rate Act, whirl, b•c
aid hid b, en of t i, grra!est bent.fit to ti:e parishes whore
it wai introduced.

(Lit? SITTING.)

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE 0 F COMMONS, Mines 24.
THE DEANERY OF DOWN.
Mr. LITTLETON'S Speech continued from our
Second Edition of last night.
In the first place he knew nothing of the appointment,
and he was ignorant of the precise value of the report
of the commissioners ; but the moment he was apprised
of it, he willinely consented that the deanery should be
treated as if it was vacant, and submitted to the insertion
of a clause in the hill to that effect. It appeared that two
years had passed during which nothing had been donerela-
tive to the appropriation of the tithes of the different
parishes and rectories of that deanery. And it might be
asked whether there was any just cause for these delays
An act of parliament was necessary, and as a general act
was contemplated, some delay took place. That was not all.
The commissioners in the lath page of their report stated
with respect to this very deanery, that, although they had
been unsparing of their time and attention, they recom-
mended that more correct and extensive local information
should be obtained before any final arrangement should be
made. The result, therefore, to which the committee
came was clearly impracticable ; and he would trouble
the house by reading a letter of the 19th December,
written by Dr. Ratcliff , the Judge of the Prerogative
Court. To pursue still farther very briefly the
reasons that had existed to lead to what had occurred,
he believed the ecclesiastical commission sat for the first
time under the Church Temporalities Act on the 231 of
last September; and it was not till the 29th of Novem-
ber they felt in a situation to call on the dean and different
curates to make their returns in order to enable them to
make their report. From that moment till the pitsent
that commission had been busily engagenl—(Hear,
bear,. bear.) Lord Plunket had refused to interfere
in any way whatever, from feelings of delicacy,
further than by taking every opportunity of urg-
ing a speedy termination of the inquiry. He had
called upon them, over and over again, to expedite the
matter, and a general meeting of the Privy Council was
summoned on the 18th of the next month, which was the
earliest period at which the Primate's state of health
was likely to permit him to attend, his presence being
considered indispensable. It would have been impossible
for the Privy Council, without farther inquiry, to have
acted upon the report of the Committee. He, however,
could not feel that he should do justice to Lord Plunket
by allowing the present case to rest on his words, but
would take leave to read an extract of a letter
which he had received from his lordship.—(Hear.)
The whole statetnint was in the handwriting of Lord
Piunket.—(Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman
then read two passages from the letter in question,
in which his lordship denied that he ever solicited
the deanery for his son, or that he had any knowledge of
the proposed alteration, or that he knew anything of the
proposed appointment, until it was suggested to him
by Lord Grey, and then the appointment was made
sulij-ct to the new arrangements. With regard to the
income, it had been stated to the noble and learned lord,
that it was 2,0001., and his son's former living was
1,2001. After having stated this, he did not know what
impression he had made on hon. members, but giving, as
he had done, the closest attention to the subject, he could
not conceive that any one had reason to doubt the highly
honourable conduct of Lord Plunket. It' there were
any members who were not satisfied with his statement, be
begged that they would come to no decided opinion ac
present upon the case, but would reserve any expression
upon it until the house was in full possession of all the in-
firm Aiwa respecting it, which must be in a very few
weeks

Mr. CORBETT sail, that under this injunction, he
should say nothing further than that to his mind tI e mat-
ter was a great. deal worse after the explanation of the
light hon. gentleman than it was before.—(A laugh. )
Mr. GOULBURN said that when be mentioned this
subject on a former day he stated that his object was to
restore to six parishes, resident incumbents, with cornee-
ient incomes, such as would give them the means of dis•
charging their duties. lle avoided alluding to any part of
the transaction that could cast an imputation upon the
Lord Chancellor of Ireland, hut if he (Mr. Goulburn)
was desirous of casting any imputations upon that node
and learned I :rd, he needed nothing more than the state-
ment of the right hon. gentleman. Upon that alone he
would leave the house to decide on the propriety of the noble
and learned lord's conduct. The noble lord was appointed
under the crown with others to advice the crown upon is
point of gte it importance, via., the dissolution of union.
Had Lis lordship given such advice without being
aware of the facts? The noble lord had not even
read the report—(" No, no," from Mr. Littleton)--
at least the draft of it—it made very little dil-
-1 crenee. The noble lord was appointed to guide
the Crown and the Legislature, yet notwithstanding, he
allows a report to be laid before this house
with his matted!), and sanction, and now the right hon.
eiintleman comes forward and says the Lind Chancellor
knew nothing about it.—(No, from Mr. Litthiton. )
The report was' either the noble lord's, or it was not,
ad if he was to be booed b) the report, how was
he to get out of this transaction ?---(Cheers.) Ile !night
take the alternative,—he either read the report or fi • did
ant—(Cheers)—and in either view of the case, he woulil
iisk the house what opinion they could loran of it? Ha
(Alr. G.) was content to, leave the parties in this trans-
.-1(.6,in to the explanations of the right hon. gentleman.
—(Cheers.)
Major BEAUCLERK said be was himself the pro.
pri,ter of one of the parishes that had been alluded ao
by the Commissioners, and he could state, that the
clereyin in there was a most excellent man, and that Ire
had been most cruelly and unjustly treated. He thought
it ought to be immediately decided that something
should he done to place him in a situation to live. It was
understood that he was to have 2001. a year ; but he had
been left without anything, and was now on a state bore
hering on starvation.
Mr. LITTLETON was inclined to hope that the situa-
tion of the tnemori lists was not quitesu bad.
Mr. ROBINSON said it was strange that a high pub-
lic officer, no less than the Lord Chancellor of Ireland,
should sign a paper without knowing its contents. Either
he must have known the report or not ; if he knew
it he should not have consented, and if not, no remark was
necessary to show the impropriety of his conduct.
Mr. Secretary STANLEY explained that the report
which Lord Plunket signed, he signed as one of the
commissioners containing a reaternent of one hundred
individuals with as many schedules ; and he did not, of
course, think it necessary to make himself responsible for
their contents.
Mr. RUTHVEN said, that wherever suspicion might
have rested before, it ought now to be done away with,
for they had at last put the saddle on the right horse.
The whole transaction showed " a sad shade of nothing
creditable to the management of the church in Ireland."
Mr. GOULBURN was understood to ask whether the
Ecclesiastical Commissioners were pursuing their inqui-
ries, and whether any further report might be looked for.
The answer was not distinctly beard in the gallery.
SUPPLY.—ORDNANCE ESTIMATES.
Cal. MABERLEY moved the order of the day far the
house going into a committee of supply.
An HoN. MEMBER, whose name we could not learn,
said that as the noble lord, the Secretary for Foreign
Affairs, was not preserve he begged to ask if any member
of the administration then present could inform him what
negotiation had taken place with the French Government
in respect to the four British vessels forcibly taken posses-
sion of so long as July last ?
Mr. Secretary STANLEY was sorry he could not give
the regniied information
notice'r tohienoe to
orietnhde IrLi.
tirrdn'emPaller, Ifm)rrston he)o his
had
lintention to put the question, he might have depended on
his being present that evening.
The HoN. MEMBER had sent notice to the noble lord,
and had that morning received a note from him thanking
hint for his courtesy.—(Great laughter.)
REFORM BILL.
An HoN. MEMbER, under the gallery, asked if it was
the intention of hie Majesty's government to introduce a
measure to amend the Reform Bills?
Lent JOHN RUSSELL replied, that it was their in-
tention to introduce a bill for the more effectual registry
ion f
Mr. C. BULLER said, that an hon. friend of his bad,
during the last session, introduced a bill to remedy the
detects of the Reform Act, and Ministers met it by a de•
dilation of their intention to take the reponsibility of
such a measure upon themselves.
Mr. O'CONNELL had a similar claim on the S: re-
tary for Ire'. nil.
Mr. LITTLETON said the subject had already re-
ceived the fullest attention, but be thought it better t,