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London, England, 1833-06-17 00:00:00

THE DESPOTISM OF THE LORDS.

" The cry is still they come !"—The Lords
are, it is said, resolved to try their strength, and,
if it be true that they are encouraged by assur-
ances that there will be no creation, they have
the comfort and consolation of knowing that if
they fall in the struggle, they will not fall alone,
and more than one hereditary institution must
be involved in the ruin.
With this threatening prospect the magnani-
mous hostility of the Ministerialists takes its
usual direction—of a set at the Queen and the
Bishops. All the blame is flung upon the
Bishops in the House, and a petticoat in the
Court. This is a cowardly choice of objects of
attack. To dislodge the Bishops from the
House of Lords would not abate the vice of its
principle, and there is an advantage, while we
have a House of Lords, in seeing the fruits of a
National Church so frankly exhibited in it.
Worthy of the Lords are the Bishops, and the
Bishops of the Lords.
The people must now sufficiently well under-
stand the spirit and character of the House of
Lords ; they know that no measure, abating
abuses as profitable to the aristocracy as inju-
rious to the public, has a chance of success in
that assembly. They see in it an obstinate ob-
stacle to all improvement, but the understanding
of its character should be accompanied with an
understanding of its constitution, whence the
two things will be viewed in the relation of cause
and effect.

Responsibility is the essence of' constitutional
government. The Ministers are responsible for
the King, the Commons to the people; the
Lords are responsible neither to the King, whose
prerogative is the source of their authority, nor
to the people, who are submitted to their autho-
rity. The authority of Peers is the only autho-
rity in the State which cannot be stripped away
if abused. The King can make, but not un-
make, and the privileges which descend by birth
cannot be taken away, except by death. A
man who finds himself possessed of power, for

le uses of which he is' not accountable, while

he sees responsibility attached to all the other
authorities around him, may easily come to the
conclusion that the power for which he is respon-
sible to nobody, is to be exercised for his own
particular benefit, and without regard to the in-
terests of others. It seems given to him for
the exclusive care of himself, as neither King
nor people can call him to account for his exer-
cise of his power. The perpetual solicitation of
an irresponsible power is, abuse me; and its
natural tendency is the narrowest selfishness and
wilfulness, two qualities which are consequently
seen extraordinarily developed in the House of
Mischief.

The only hold upon the House is the power
of creation in the Crown ; but this can hardly
be said to produce a responsibility, as the power
abused is still continued to the individual, and
the worthy and unworthy are equally affected by
the discredit brought on the House collectively
by the royal appointment of a majority. The
more extensive the factious corruption and mis-
conduct of the House, the more injurious to
the institution is a creation ; and the Lords have

thus the encouragement of knowing that the
wider their confederacy against good govern-
ment, the more unmanageable and difficult the
coercion. There is no other institution the
errors and vices of which can only be conquered
through a damage to the institution itself. In
other instances, the present members are liable
to removal ; in this they remain fixed, after sig-
nalizing their unfitness for the authority. The
irresponsible power is of course indefeasible.
Curious it is that the Man of his Order has
incalculably accelerated the downfal of his Order;
and yet the Whigs have no wish to damage the
House of Lords ; all they desire is to make it
their own ; and this done they would extol the
virtues of the institution to the skies. But the
process must have its consequences. The con-
tempt with which the Whigs treated the late vote
cannot but have its effect. They said the vote
mattered no more than the resolution of so many

The Chronicle says—" We tell the public
that a crisis is again at hand, and that they must
be prepared to buckle on their armour for the
fight. If our warning voice have no effect, then,
as was said in the olden time, The Lord's will
be done.'"

We suppose the Lord's will will be done, even
if the Chronicle's warning voice have effect; for
we are not prepared to pay our contemporary so
bad a compliment as he offers himself when he
supposes that in failure of his warning voice, the
Lord's will will have effect. As for the buckling
on of armour, if the necessity arrives, the people
will see the prudence of wearing it to such pur-
pose that they shall not have occasion to trouble
themselves speedily with it again. They will
not buckle on armour to make a Whig House
of Peers in place of a Tory House of Peers—
to adjust the differences between the tweedledum
and tweedledee ; but apply themselves to a settle-
ment of the Government cleared of all unreason-
able privileges, vicious principles, and barbarous
remnants of feudalism.

The national quarrel with the House of Peers
will be with the institution, and not with the
composition of the assembly. The evils of a
hereditary and irresponsible Legislature are not
to be cured by a Minister's packing. A des-
potism tempered with puppets were too gross a
farce for legislation.—Examiner.

LAW OF DEBTORS AND CREDITORS,

(From the Town.)
The Solicitor-General, on Thursday, brought in a Bill,
to be read a second time on Wednesday se'nnight, to
amend the law of debtor and creditor, and which we con-
sider to be the very best Bill that has been introduced for
many years. The outline of this Bill is, Ist. To give
immediate executions upon all bonds and bills when due;
and when from the nature of the engagement to pay a
fired sum, at a named day, the strong probability is, that
there is no just ground for resisting the payment, and
where the want of punctuality in payment would be in
Lifect a fraud upon the creditor. Exceptions may arise in
cases of infancy or fraud in obtaining the security, but
these may be provided for by requiring the party who has
been defrauded to file his bill in Chancery for relief, ha-
mediately after he has discovered the fraud, or by obtain-
ing time and investigation in a Court of Law, upon full
affidavits of the facts. At present it is absurd that a
party who has given his bond or bill to pay at the expira-
tion of a specified time, should be allowed to lie by and
afterwards obtain further time by sham pleading or other-
wise. In Scotland and in France at present this is not
allowed, and the rendering credit more fixe.l and certain
—we consider great advantage will be afforded by this
provision to the commercial community.
The 2d proviAion is to enable creditors to levy upon
every description of property, viz., copybold, stock in the
funds. chores in action, and debts, and to enable creditors

to take each in execution. At present, a debtor possessed
of these, and owing 10,0001., may go to prison, obtain the
benefit of the rules, and live luxuriantly upon the produce
of these. On the eve of imprisonment a debtor may sell,
and convey his freehold property or household furniture,
and lend the proceeds to a friend, who, after he has gone
to prison, may, from time to time, pay him the interest,
and neither the principal money lent nor the interest dur-
ing life can be touched. These present results of the ex•
isting law are manifestly unjust, and inconsistent with
other provisions, for in caseof a commission of bankruptcy,
or discharge under the Insolvent Act, the assignees at pre-
sent are enabled to take the whole of the debtor's property,
and where will be the injustice of extending the provisions
to all cises? As respects copyhold property, the great ob-
jection hitherto has been on the part of lords of manors,
but if it should be provided that they shall receive a
moderate fine from the creditor on his taking posses-

sion, as upon a change of ownership, we think their
scruples will probably be removed, and, even without
that allowance, we see no reason why the present

power of lords of manors will not afford them ample
protection. With respect to the public funds, as pro-
perty vested in them has long been divinable amongst
creditors, as well in case of bankruptcy, general insolvency,
as death, we see no reason why it should not be seizable
by every description of creditor. And why should not a
bond debt, or debt upon a bill of exchange, or other ordi-
nary debt, be equally, or indeed rather more, subject to

execution than wearing apparel, bedding, and household
furniture, the taking of which generally occasions more
immediate inconvenience and distress than the seizure of
debts could occasion?

The 34 principal provision is to exempt a debtor from

imprisonment and from all future liability provided he
bona fide, without concealment, gives up the whole of his
property to his creditors, and that four-fifths of his credi-
tors give him their certificate in effect of his having done
so. This is in the spirit of the present bankrupt law, and
would extend its provision to every description of debtor.
At present, it is true, every debtGr, not guilty of fraud, may
obtain his discharge from imprisonment under the Insol-
vent Act after a short imprisonment, but which he must
without any real utility endure, and then, after his dis-
charge, his future effects remain liable to his former cre-
ditors; so that the discharged debtor has no motive for
industry or to acquire property, but becomes a lazy and
useless member of society.
_

But, 4thly, in order justly to distinguish between the
fraudulent and the unfortunate debtor, it is proposed to
make the obtaining goods or credit by falsa pretences, or
without at the time possessing the means, or just expec-
tation of ability to pay, a legal offence punishable by law,
or at least as constituting exceptions to the exemption
from continuing liability to pay. This enactment will
require more precision in its terms.
So, stbly, it is proposed that any fraud or misstate-
ment in disclosing the debtor's property shall be an inaict-
able misdemeanor.

And, 6thly, it is proposed to abolish or at least greatly
limit or modify the power of arrest on mesne process, the
useless expense of which, with its incident of putting in
bail, it is stated exceeds 300,000/. per annum, spent in
law expenses, without any benefit to creditors or debtors.

7thly, It is proposed to provide for cases of fraud by
enacting that when a creditor shall make an affidavit that
his debtor is about to abscond to a foreign country, the
latt,r may be taken immediately and imprisoned. The
former of these last two provisions is merely a restora-
tion of the ancient lnv, according to which no creditor
could arrest or even take in execution his debtor for a
debt—it being considered in ancient times that it ought
not to be allowed to a creditor, who has himself thought
fit to give credit to and repose confidence in another of
his own accord, to withdraw the same, and that conse-
quently he ought not to be allowed to arrest his debtor,
and the ancient and present law of France does not allow
an arrest for debt excepting in particul►r cases. It used to
be a favourite maxim, and still is in many respects a prin-
ciple of English 14w, that personal liberty has nu equi-
valent, and that, at all events, it ought not to be effected
except in cases of crimes dangerous to the community, and
as Lord Holt emphatically expressed, " The r,straint of
liberty is a sufficient provocation even to bystanders to in-
terfere—a provocation of all the subjects of EnglAnd."
And it certainly is absurd that a creditor should be allowed
as in effect a compensation for a mere pecuniary claim ma-
lignantly to imprison his debtor perhaps for life, and thus
,o deprive him of the means of maintaining himself and
family, and, et the same time, to throw upon the county

drunken cobblers. What claim to authority—
to existence, can any assembly have whose 'de-
cisions are treated with this scorn ? The Whigs
will call the thing folly one day and wisdom the
next, but the people will not believe that the
same tree produces grapes and sloes.
The King is said to be obstinately opposed
to a creation ; were the personage of less dig-
nity we might compare his conduct to that of
the toper, who, when his friend fell in the gutter,
hiccuped out, " My dear fellow, I can't help you
up, but I'll do what I can, I'll lie down by you
in the mire." Supposing this is his Majesty's
resolution, as it must have been long known to
Lord Grey, and equally. well known to
him that measures of efficient reform were im-
practicable without a creation, for what object
has he been carrying on the Government ? Not
surely out of complaisance to the King, who can
have small claims to his Lordship's zeal, nor
with any expectation of rendering substantial
service to the people. The sooner this issue
between the Peers and the nation is determined
the better, and it is not improbable (if the in-
discretions of which we hear be true) that the
general question of hereditary authority may be
involved in it.

Per
i*""

Wheat. Barley. Oats. Pease. sis 80:
First 63s Od —s Od 23s 8d 31s Od AA
S cond sBs Od —s Od 20s Od 29s Od jOd
Third 46s Od —s Od 18s Od 27s Od
PRICES OF PROVISIONS, &C.
Os. 4d. to Os. Rd. Fresh Butter, lb. 05.8,1. t° 9 9
0 5 0 6 Salt 0 00 0
041 0 8 Ditto, per ca t. 70 0 0 0
0 4 0 6 Eggs, per doz. 0 7 8 2
0 4 6 OatStraw(lcp!.) 7 0 ga;
35 8 37 6 Wheat Ditto... 7 0 6
0 8 0 0 Barley Ditto... 6 0 0 I
0 4 0 0 Hay, per 0 8

Beef, per lb.
Mutton, _
Veal ••••••••••••10~~

Lamb, per qr.
Tallow, cwt....
Quartern Loaf
Potatoes, 1731 b.

EDINBURGH MEAI
There was a moderate supply 1
and the sales were brisk, at last
Per Sack of 2801 b. Imp.
First Oatmeal £l 10 0
Second ditto 1 8 0
Barleymeal 1 6 0
Peaserneal 1 3 0
Pot Barley—No. I, per cwt. 12s

, MA —June 11-.oo°
of Oatmeal at this day's '"
week's prices.
Per Stone ot 141 b.. ..e-0"
First Oatmeal I 6
Second ditto
0
Barleymeal
Peasemeal
1
s.-2d, .0,0

GLASGOW CORN MARKET.—June 19-
.4040;
The supplies of Grain are moderate, and prices are
alteration. P 6
d. 14 d
Wheat, per 2401 b. s. d. s. d. Oats, per 2641 b. 13. 00 pf
British, old 23 ()to 29 0 Irish l3 1
new 25 0 27 6 British l3 0 0
/
Canada, free 27 0 30 0 Beans, per 2601 b. O.
Irish 10
O
Barley, per 3201 b. Scot 1A.4 0 English 0 --C Pease, Scottish ... X 46 0. a v
Scottish 22 0 23 6 Oatmeal, per 140Ib. 12 0 4P
Irish

CORNWALL. MARKETS. 04'
.. Ss.Att
Tauao—Wheat (average) 21s.—Barley, 9s. 61-oa.-,.....,
Sr. A °mix—Wheat, —s. to 2.ls.—Barley, --b. to r''
00
7s. to 7s. 3d.
PENZANCE—Wheat, 20s. to 21s.—Barley, 9s. to
__,1°51;44/
os. to 7s. 6d.—Beef and Mutton, Od. to 6d.—Pork, r"' th
Butter, 41. per lb.
. cd.'"°
LauricesroN—Wheat (average) 19s. 6d.—Barley, 9'. 00
6, 6d.—Beet; sd.—Mutton, 6d. 00'
Liskaaao—Wheat, —s. to 20s. 01—Barley, Bs. Oct.'. _,
Do'
to 6s. 6d.
BonatiN—Wheat (average) 20s.—Barley, Ss. 01-oati, 60
__.. ...,.

HE I.9TON—Wheai, 20s.A.LBatiey,2)0d. 0446
ST. CoLUMß—Wheat, 20s. to —4.—Barley, 7s. to 100.
and Mutton, sd. to 6d.—Veal, od.—Lamb, od.

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MININC INTELLIGENCE. ~- -Al5
Quantity of Copper Ore sold at Redruth last Thurd- Y o,'" 6
Average Pr0duce....,,,. a / 0
-... 09 001'
Quantity of fine Copper.-- ...—............ ::.....241,
Amount of 5a1e.19,3201. 3s. fid.—Average Standard. 115

BIRTHS. f I f 116
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On the 16th inst., in Dover.street, the lady of T. —'
Esq., of a son.
On the 16th inst., Mrs. C. L. Francis, of a son. of /.
On the 14th inst., in Bolton.street, Piccadilly, the la"'
T. Smith, Esq., of a daughter.

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MARRIED.
On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's, Kensington, by the ii.i.e jolte
Badger, Mr. R. Badger, of York-place, Chelsea, to bso—Litiv
Elizabeth, eldest daughter of the late Mr. Broughton) °f
sop
ampton-street, Strand. • do 0.•
On the 15th inst., at Marylebone Church, Louis Ll° iste
of Boulogne-sur-Mer, to Frances, eldest daughter of the
Browne, Esq.

DIED.
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On the 15th inst., in the 43d year of his age, the 00,
tain T. R. Curzon, Royal Navy, of Cumberland-street, r°
square, second son of the Right Hon. Lord Teynhani*
On the 14th inst., in Harley-street, Georgians "000.
Sackville, youngest daughter of the Hon. George and
Sackville Germain, in the 11th year of her age. e
On the 15th inst., at the Vicarage House, CriPPleg-a t I
Rev. William Homes, aged 63.
.00
On the 15th inst., in Montagu.square, Anna, ,11.
daughter of John Purdoe, Esq., of Leyton, Essex, aged_eol
On the 15th inst., in Weymouth-street, Lieut.-Gen
T. Bowser, K.C.8., in the 84th year of his age. aido
On the 14th inst., in Conduit-street, Lady Anstruther, „1,
of the Right Hon. Sir J. Anstruther, Chief Justice of

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The last provision appears to us to be someW ' ; Illy 1
• gous to the ancient custom of the city of Lone' ' (!it' on sE,
an expected fugitive debtor, as still technically ' .nd '
even before the debt becomes due, be arrested ' PT., 'l7
of his being about to become a fugitive.
sconding prima facie indicates fraud, we see ne ,ed all
to that exception in the law of arrest. Upon " ,se„ :-
1 we hail the proposed alterations as highly salutart. . 4'l"
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, inanely counteracting the malignant spirit of re ' be,
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frequently evinced by disappointed creditors, W 16 "Mit e
perhaps invited the credit and encouraged the'' 'l, lits7eh
improvident expenditure, and on the other hand of 10, ti
ing fraudulent debtors and preventing them from 4. Lai
plying property which should be justly distributed ' ~
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rather their creditors. We confess, however, that 0 ill "n 1
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rather have the certificate of an honest disclosure lep, "
perty in the power of a judge, than in that of I; I'' a
of creditors whom we apprehend may, from an 001 ,t, aforr
dulgence of feelings of disappointment, be too fr ' Zeu.ta
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induced to withhold the same.
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GERMAN PAPERS. Old ail
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CONSTANTINOPLE, Max 26.--(By Express. i---
1,
the apprehensions of a longer duration of the osai
Egypt have wholly vanished, as Ibrahim Paella he' 0/,
it is said, begun his retreat, our immediate prole Orl,
tar from being encouraging. New reports of
much alarm; a breach between Russia andAvl'afF'r,-.0.1
feared, and where but here could he the theatre d "" the I
contest? It is said that the English and French. la
thew governorhichhasapopfeatrhede off
forts,the
thDadt it
rdanhelalses,orhdaesrsintotito pis i4,l7ari killtoajne
channel, and in case of refusal or opposition, it would ( tinned
the the passage; but notwithstanding this, the Turkl ii"
vernor answered, that he could not permit the P,,,
That on this a small French schooner bad ventured "'
into the Hellespont, but bad been received with so
ittiqueity,
fire. How far these statements are true cannot be , lit i‘if :...
ascertained ; but it appears from many circumstance' I. a.,"
and they are not wholly without foundation.
It is positively affirmed that Count Orloff has 50"-41 lidge
to the Turkish Government a eate4 :il demand, ''' in
shall, at all risks, oppose the entrowe of a foreign SI
force into the Dardanelles.
di' 1" It remains to be seen whether the combined IA-
will be contented with a refusal.
The accounts from Bosnia continue to be unsitist.l7;
The plague is increasing in Pera and Galata. ' ~, .
tranquillity has not been interrupted here.
VIENNA, JUNE 4.-An English courier from 1." tti .rY
has passed through on his way to Constantinople, sties
despatches for Lord Ponsonby. They seem to be ' 1
of
kno,
satisfied in London with the turn of things in the ' .
%AI 4 the
and change their language towards Mehemet Ali--4,- 'tf Au.,
no longer to threaten him even if he should persist in, 1 tad toot
demands on eh,. Porte. It is evident that they hi, ' ut thi,
London too much business of their own to mind, - nelt
fat ' b
much attention to foreign affairs.
Count Munch Bellinghausen, President of the D 5 19e 'II
t.P°l3B4lllBa
• t $ l'po day.
left Vienna to return to his post. We shall pro ~' ,
~,'
iiifehor I
soon have interesting communications from Frankfa' .1
VIENNA, JUNE 5.-Five per Cent. MetallienT ' llen,o
9-16 ; Four per Cent., 85 5-32; Bank Shares, 1241 ' ' to. ti
Allgemeine Zeitung, June 10.
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COUNTRY CORN MARKETS '' " Parti
DURING LAST WEEK.
...,; kl! and /
that
OrY red T
Wheat. Barley. Oats.
- -.l' 741 th ;
Per Quarter. s. to s. s. to s. s. to s. D 5
19e'
', Illtli oi.
Carlisle 5B - 21 - 18 -- " ' htta:
Elexham ~ 52 ‘64 27 30 17 21 „.."" f, of
Morpeth ...-........ 44 50 25 27 17 19 , of' ' . Let and
Penrith .................. - 59 - 24 - 20 ‘...
i i'l.' Will
5heiffe1d............,.... - 55 - 27 - 17 "a .h. ~,
Winchester 44 55 22 26 22 24 "A 1., Per
Per Bushel. s. d. s. d. ,s.d.s.d.s. d. s. d. OAI, '4 rated to
Carmarthen...-. 6 0 661 2 6 2 9 1 4 1 7 v 6
c to Cowbridge 66 70, 2 9 34 26 30 -.. ~, , .. he
Newcastle (Staff.) 8 0 86 4 6 50 2 9 33* a ~ ,edesi
Northallerton -.. 70 9 3 3 6 46 33 40 5 • ' kly •
Stone...- . 80 88; 4 0 48 30 36
Swansea 6 8 7 0 2 4 2 8 1 9 2 0 12 g 1 -, betty
Warwick. 9 0 10 9 3 0 4 6 2 0 3 3 j - . -----
Per 8011.
Rarnardcastle.,... 11 0 17 6 8 0 8 6 5 6 6 8 -„7 ' 1 ki..,
in 0 it, tASI
Durham 120 139, 73804660 ,; 6- `4•Ed
Richmond ll 0 16 6 90 96 50 66 •
k0ckt0n...........-. 11 611996 10 0 4 6 50 6 9 Qt4l/111
WAKEFIELD CORN MARKET.-June 14• Al, ~,,
Wheat, Red, Norfolk and Suffblk...-s. 475. to 58s. fine "41, IV Rive
Lin. and Cam. -s. 40s. to 523. fine io. Nit a Q
Yorkshire s 365. to 503. en.
• au, fine volP,
- White -s. 46e. to fine se.
---- Foreign, Red -s 425. to 53L e6O ,het, '
to .58, one
ngi, , White _...s 525.
Barley, Norfolk and Suftblk
Lincolnshire
--- Yorkshire Wold
----- ForeignV. t eta Will t
Beans, Old S
o! 2422:1 : tttt
oot i°
,EsSI: Noe
fifi finennge ~ . . s:;:“ Thatll4t ed e°t:hdke
313 to Ms. fine 94$ h
tree '
- New 30s to 325. fin. ao, 0, o e
Oats, Potato lBs. to 21s. fine"- ''' July fc
egli
- Poland -s. I6s. to 20s. fine
- Friezland and Small
---... Seating ony's ny's f,
-s. Iss. to 1&. fine 191, 4,4h.(1
Shelling 20s. to 245. Od. per i,-i. livered
Malt 3os 34s fine 38s. per ..4,
Rapeseed 01/ Os. 22/. Os. 231. OS. Per
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SCOTCH MARKETS.
todi HE
Wheat. Barley Oats. 1 Beans.
........111a
......_-•"" 44 .
berdeen «..«.. 40 48 22 26 16 19 - 25 0
- 26 i kiss'
erwick........... 34 56 17 19 12 14 118 20
__, , r, lOT
oldstrearn ... 36 38 18 19 13 14 19 21 ---, , one s
upar «,.,..,,.«,.,..,,.48 56 26 31 18 22 22 26 _,,
'',
,undee-......... 50 60 30 33 20 25 30 31
1gm.............. 40 49 24 26 16 20 23 30 4646 ',
iverness...... 40 48 24 25 17 18 23 21 ~. ' i ,
elso ................ 36 38 19 21 12 14 20 23 43 4' VA(
irkaldy.....- 48 61 23 29 16 20 45 48
.. / s
erth ....-... 50 56 23 26 20 22 25tf .11, in tl
0- The size of the measure varies throughout the/ s'i ,wadi
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EDINBURGH CORN MARKET.-June 12' ocet Pupils
We had a large supply of all kinds of Grain to-dayLdir- 4.. g.
arley, and the sales were heavy in general, partially.- k_ refer
/beat.
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