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London, England, 1851-02-05 00:00:00

fair reputetion by any course which shall be lecqsi,is_lev,ilt
wil h !hat love ce true religi‘ us liberty hick he b 5: :it
shown.—(Cheer.) And, Sir, I must ask Perweicshof
Of the !louse to rt ad a short ,x;raet from a epees
Tee
that..Neble Lerd in introducing the repeal of th'ition:
Act in 1828—that Noble Lord bei, g then in cPP"L'e
—"I now come to the great principle involved 111"!_d
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tr erous petitions before the House—petitions sign'
~f3d
bj
the whole body of Dissenters, by Roman Cathelics,Tabst
by many members of the Established Cherath„,-, fora
principle is, that every man ought to be allowed",l 001
his religious Opinions by the impressions oa-h
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mind, and that when so formed, he should be at 0:5,
to worship God according to the dictates of 1,1-i ome en.
science, without being subjected to any PcilaitYjesic'
qualification whatever—that every restraint or r creed
non imposed on any man on account of his religietiSlieoe
is in the nature of persecution, and is at once a- file
to God and an injury to man.—( Hear. This 1;10
t tot
first and noble principle on which the Diss°llter
the repeal or the test laws; but I will fairly ediNijor,
there may be an exception to its applicationeral
hear)—and I will illustrate it by refere:.ce to lbeteiernsi
principle of non-interference by one state in the steed
effairs of another.—(Hear, hear.) It may b© wet'
that one state would not generally be justified itll.ooo
fering in the internal concerns of another; but i•oes of
of the internal regulations of political institutlo the
one state arc of such a nature as to lead directlYw• cose
injury of another, then the interference prorr'Joeliv
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menses on the part of the state making such isire
tioosi, and not on the part of the state which camefigius
of them. I will say the same of religion; if the r•neipl‘i
of any body of men be found to contain politics' Pl:Jawed
hostile to the State, or militating against that itlieb tbst
which is due from every subject of the Crowe, od
case the question ceases to be a religious plod° re'
you have a right to interfere and impose "coo do
strictiona as you may deem necessary, because )e;teesi
not impose them on religious opinions, you iteextrocli
only on political doctrines." Having read this. % eilb
I trust we shall all feel we may reserve ourselve of
perfect confidence till we see the Bill introducl
it be doubted as to the propriety of any Bill at s of tbs
brc.ught in, I point to Roman Catholic peers hat
highest standing who have publicly declared •t
legiance to the canon law is incompatible lel,i, es
legiatice to the Sovereign.—(Hear.) If sOi rots
good reason for the introduction of sem° °erg°
for our consideration ; not, Sir, that those Noble L°l‘,.,, tel
recreant to their religious principles in thus reseel;sei
Papal rescript; not that through the indirect in, der
of Protestantism they have adopted views whichlii, the
times they have abhorred. Nothing like ".' the
Papal rescript would have been resented I.°oo
pahniest days of the Roman Catholic reli,gloll
this country—(Cheers, and cries of " No, cote, Dole
Sir, our earliest national history is full of inclu%, of
which the people, the Parliament, and the bertll
England, Catholics as they all were, iudignePs'ill
te°
claimed against such intrusions on the part 0- sip
man Pontiff. The canon law, for example, has:iptile
been hateful to Englishmen, and I do trust tbst
measures to be taken its operation in this country oiled
rendered null and void, otherwise we shall be era
„ellie
in interminable intestine disputes utterly mess our
our,
with the safety, the honour, and the welfare 1,013 i.
Sovereign and her dominions.—(Hear, hearqe. tore°
all Hon. Members will feel they can concur the
of the Address, and I hope we shall postpone 11100'
bate on a subject so exciting until the matter -also 5154
stantively before us.—(Cheers.) Her bifkie''' SS"A
speaks of certain changes in the courts of 01-d"1,1 prs'
law, and the registration of deeds relating to re eelli"
perty. All Hon. Members who represent large °I 06
tuencies must be alike familiar with the geaerelieb
urgent wish that exists for law reform; sad 197-tiesit°
they would desire a temperate, well-considered Owbar
of the suffrage, I am sure they will fiel,te-sebet,
Majesty's Ministers in deferring that anti, ":00
session, and takingl up the great clael 10:
law reform in our courts of equity tieeiee'
have exercised a sound discretion. The estal".7l.-es/1
and extension of county courts has, so far es !er gaud
introduced a sweeping change in pleading Prace/itstel
evidence; but the change of the law in the fiette"., geore
of America has made the people of this cocotT•reseti
alive than ever to the necessity of great cluing°
department of our legal administration. I can °-ie the
press a hope, which is, that it will be uudertekee„
spirit which the folllowing short extract from,a,Tjit De
neat author would demonstrate. He SaY5:". fie°
not be deterred by clamour against innovatiooo3oo,
abrogating what is useless, simplifying what isc° .fitscs
or determining what is doubtful ; nor attempt I°,elcb'
off an immediate pressing difficulty by LooB'
work scheme of modifications and ecePtasife
but let us consult for posterity in a compremi,eol
scheme of legal philosophy."—(Hear, heart) jejese the
necessary that I should point oat to the ee,,-„Litioe -
great benefits which must accrue from a tegfa"-ePor
deeds of real property. All the inconvenience, 8010
mice, and expense, together with the delaye ssd
arises from the want of it, is familiar to 51'01
any Government which will originate sadbi
out a well-digested and simple Plan'
re°.
which the transfer of real estate can Ow the
dered more easy and inexpensive, will add of the
value of property, and deserve the hearty thacheeie
Legislature.--(Hear and cheers.) It now, Sir, °Pee: II
mains for me to thank the House for its indulges , „of,
Sir, only earnestly desire that Divine Providelloes
illuminate our common path, guide all our coon ° goi 1) ,°
so direct all our efforts that our legislation ifle
eminently practical, equal, and promotive of tee
interests of the United Kingdom. With this ;yetel
sion, Sir, I earnestly commend, by an utianirsca"cl4o
the adoption of the Address to her Majesty.--(11°-
continued cheering.)
leMr. ROEBUCK then rose and said, that never 6icil
he had the honour to be a Member of that Houseoa
risen with so much pain as on the present cccasiote be
Ilb the consideration of other addresses to her eee_.ter•
might have felt pain; but the feeling which he now ;iiit
tamed was a clear feeling on his own mind, the; that
of a calm and deliberate judgment. The reason ° $OO.
pain was, that now for the first time since be (bit' an
buck) had been a Member of that House be f°lln 114;
Administration calling itself Liberal—an Ade:o°9oe
tiun the head of which had. gained all his 1100°Ierieelld
his great position as one of the great e' tee
°
party—taking the first step backwards, 5,t, nob°
at which onward progress was the a'6,g
, file
mark of the day. He was surprised to find °'
step backward was taken by that Administrati°:!'betel
by that Premier who had been the advocate of
measures. The Hoe. Seconder of the Address roflo
ferred to Noble Lord's antecedents as a Pra°,:ktlialse
liberal policy. Last year he (Mr. Roebuck) sha
been willing to rely upon the Noble Lord's antecedes) ero
now he could not do so. He (Mr. Reehtic,;: tbet
surprised to find that, with such antecedeneee°'
Noble Lord could come forward as the °Pr 4130
of civil and religious liberty. What Weruelibej
antecedents of the Noble Lord? He was distill/4 tow'
as being the organ of the party which brought et° Cot'
the motion for the repeal of the Test and stop'
poration Act in 1825, and now he was Old 097
ping civil and religious liberty. He wool c„.
the attention of the Honourable Secteee- o.
the Address to an observation °tie° file
that period by one who knew well riuisteos.;
mind of man was—by Mr. Canning. He said,
of what you are doing—mind what you are shbile
so soon as you relieve the Dissenters from their o'll,o
ties, you will find in them your bitterest °PllO35°
when you propose to remove the disabilities of the 11t.109;
n
Catholics." Well, they had now no er disse;
No, now theeihad one united Protestanotegry, in ‘be
were conjoined. He could not help remarking urne°f
the
admirable artifice of the Honourable Seconder n-tt
tbs
Address, in his remarks upon the conduct 11/r1
Noble Lord. Now what was the time at
the Noble Lord bad chosen to step lorpi of
a time when he put into the 01°11-ehe
our gracious Sovereign congratulations upon le 00°
creased happiness of the labouring classes, It! re,
when, alter a long experience of law by whic%-(100:,'
b
Arictions on religion and on trade and on
were swept away, he put into her mouth wjebice
congratulation for the fact of increased happineesd bee
,t;
they now enjoyed. Since 1828 the country b 5.0 tt;
going on in one line of legislation. On that °cc/011000%
great Protestant hero whose death they now dePbeer'i
and whose loss they felt that day—(ffearcetelOr
yielding to the experience and the pressure of of 011°
stances is Ireland ; and the Duke of Wellington'
had seen, as he said, more years of war than any f cif°
of' his time, and knowing, he said, the mischiefs °olio,
war, he would to save the country from one month ° Pena
give his life, under that pressure, consented brace
the Emancipation Act. These great eou:
men taking up the principle acted upon tea
carried it out frankly. Sir Robert Peel vi
was suggested to him to pay the Catholic c to
said he had considered the question, and 51;1,0"
portant one it was, and that he would Dot
ehg
fere with the internal polity of the Catholic r.,,teal•
no more than he would with the Wesleyan The
That was the principle upon which he welaet* t
Noble Lord and his party felt great pain, and ee jet o''
say great jealousy, that these men, the •Dfalvest
liberality and dissent, should come in and it OP
away the honour for which they had laboured. t the
complained by the party of the Noble Lord theteoo
,e
honour belonged to them, for that they had got Tel°
emancipation and others had gained the honottro• 001
showed that had the Duke of Wellingt°°,,ered
done as he did, the party would have Pet.:11100'
in their demand fur complete eloarifsleaI't ths,
and that their wishes were gratified by the fec''tiog 5,"
Roman Catholics were now upon the same fafdisitb`'
their Protestant brethren, and that no politics+
ojoes.
litics was imposed in consequence of religious °Pi when
Now, when such was the state of this countrYdid tb°
such was the onward progress of opinion, what
nueee's
Noble Lord propose to do? He told them (the Tad re-
Speech being the Noble Lord's speech) that sh°
by ceived many addresses from large bodies of her s_d y
with respect to the ecclesiastical titles conferred ti ta
foreign power, and the Noble Lord does not lea!_ eon'
doubt as to his intentions on the subject, for alrsci will
ing notice has been given that the Noble -1-4_u
1000
or ss'll_efeered
bring in a Bill to prevent the enjoyment
of any ecclesiastical title or honour that may be eulauces
by any foreign sovereign or prince in respect of Pwell
par
the United Kingdom. That is to say, that he rotes!
to pieces the religious distinctions that have been g ..1t
g lion' a
by the bishop, who is called the Pope of be•
the Noble Lord meant to say that there halePenewho Its°
weak Sovereign on the banks of the Tiber, this
chosen to give certain names and titles to persons visa vise °
country, if that be what the Noble Lord meant,ti Object
fair course for him to pursue, and it would be vot the ,
against which to direct his attacks, but that erns shown
case.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had alwardealleg
himself to be, and he believed him to be, a fretni DiAnifs
man; and he asked him, was it not against the.,
of Rome his Act was directed?—(hear, hear')
was the Bishop of Rome? He was a porreignur