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contrary, ho felt that he had been deprivel, as well as
his ancestors—(Loud cheers and laughtcr)—el what he
and his ancestors had been entitled to for two centuries,
and that the Act of 1829 was an act f justice for which
he had no right to 1( el any extra hrenility. He war,
however, much surprised to hear the Lord Advocate soy
that if the net in question had been done quietly—with
humility—sub rosa—behind a political screen—on the
Sly, no offence would be taken, and that the matter
Would_ have been passed over unquestioned. The Right
nom Gentleman had spoken of the Episcopal Church of
'Scotland and of Bishop Skinner exerceeng aethority
only in one district; hnt if the Right Hon. Gentleman
had put diocese for district, and Glasgow for both, he
Would have been nearer the fact. The Hon. Member
then read a petition presented by Mr. Hastie from 200
members of the Presbyterian Church in Glasgow, com-
plaining of the encroachments of the prelacy in Scotland
slue 1840, and the assumption of the bishops of the
Episcopal Church, asserting that they assumed territo-
rial titles and bore the episcopal mitre on the panels of
their private carriages. The Right Hon. Secretary for
the Home Department, too, had given notice of a clause
exempting the Scotch bishops from punishment for
these acts. And yet the Lord Advocate had said
the people of Scotland were not indignant. The
'chile appointed bishops not as a temporal bat as
a spiritual prince ; and if he were lodging at
Mivart's, as he had been at Rome, by the lest
accounts, his power of appointment would be
the same as at present. The Noble Lord at the head
of the Government was constantly taunting the Catholic
Members of that House with the Sardinian act of re-
fusing absolution: but if the Noble Lord was right, why
did he not oppose the Act of Emancipation of 1829?
The Noble Lord, in replying to the Hon. Member for
Athlone, argued that delaying emancipation would have
forced the Catholics to incorporate themselves with
tome. If the Noble Lord meant the word incorporate
in a spiritual sense, ho spoke loosely, for the Catholics
of Ireland had been incorporated with Rome since the
conversion of that country by St. Patrick. If, on the
contrary, the Noble Lord meant it in a temporal sense,
he offered a gratuitous iasult to their allegiance. If he
talked of their incorporation with a pocket or duodecimo
edition of a primer, that was an offence against their
Common understanding. They had sworn their alle-
giance to the Queen, and they would not allow the
Noble Lord to impeach that allegiance. He admitted
that the Lord Advocate had spoken with great modera-
tion, and had made the best he could of a bad cause, but
he did not ray one word about the Bill. He gave the
Learned Lord Advocate great credit for avoiding that
one subject, for it was a very tender point. The Noble
Lord at the head of the Government, in answer to the
Ron. and Learned Member for Athlone (Mr. Keegh),
said that if they (the Irish Roman Catholics) were per-
secuted by this Bill, they were equally persecuted since
182 e, because the 24th clause of the Emancipation Act
contained all that was contained in the present Bill.
Let him (Mr. Reynolds) remind the House of the spirit
of the Bill of 1829. The object of that Bill was to
emancipate 10,000.000 of Roman Catholic subjects.
The object of the Bill before the House was to enslave
those 10,000,000 of loyal subject!. Why was the 24th
clause of the Emancipation Bill inserted? It was to
Pacify the bishops in another place—in feet, it was to
give a sop to the whale.—(Laughter.) He asked the
Noble Lord whether be intended to interfere with the
free exercise of the Catholic religion in the United
Kingdom? Did he intend to fetter the Catholic bishops
in the discharge of their clerical functions? The Noble
Lord said he did not. Did he intend to interfere with
the Bequests Act? H 3 said not. Well, then, will the
Noble Lord permit him to propose a clause in this Bill,
declaring that nothing therein contained shall be con-
sidered to prevent the Catholic bishops is the United
Kingdom from discharging their episcopal functions as
they were in the habit of doing? and another clause that
would secure to them those rights that had been,guaran-
teed to them under the Bequests Act? If the Noble Lord
permitted him to do that then there would be no fur-
ther opposition to his Bill. But the Noble Lord
would not do any such thing. Under such circum-
stances, they were determined to fight that Bill by every
means in their power. He held in his hand a most im-
portant document; it was the opinion of an eminent
lawyer, and a Member of that House upon the merits of
the Bill. He alluded to the Hon. and Learned Member
for Aylesbury (Mr. Bethell). It was read partially in
that House in March last by the Hon. and Learned
Member for Dundalk (Mr. T. M'Cullagh). The opinion
went so far as to say that the first clause of this Bill
involved the second and third, and it was a mistake to
suppose that its stringency was in the slightest degree
impaired or altered by the omission of the fatter clauses.
He (Mr. Reynolds) would fight the Hon. and Learned
Member for Aylesbury against the Noble Lord. Let
the matter be settled between them. That opinion fur-
ther stated that the Roman Catholic bishops in Ireland
could not exercise their functions in Ireland if that Bill
were passed into a law. That opinion was not only
given by the Hon. Member for Aylesbury, but it was
confirmed by two other eminent lawyers—namely, Mr.
Bramwell and Mr. Surridge. Through the influence of
his Hon. and Learned Friend the Member for Athlone,
the opinions of three other lawyers were taken on
the subject, and they had not only corroborated all that
he had read, but had gone further, for they said that if
the Bill passed, even in its modified shape, there was an
end of the exercise of the Catholic religion in this king-
dom. They were taunted with a want of patience upon
this question. He for one would Loud not
lane bear this
What
with
either patience or moderation.—(hter.)
had brought him and the other Protestant and Catholic
Members who had entered the House as supporters of
the Noble Lord over to the opposition side of the House?
Why, it was this Bill of pains and penalties. What had
induced him and other Members of that House to make
a declaration that they would use every effort in their
power to hurl the present occupants of the Treasury
bench from power? Nothing but the present Bill.—
(Hear.) He had never said that he would vote black
Was white, but he said, and repeated, that so long as the
Government became the persecutors of his creed and of
the millions with whom he was joined in religious
belief, that there was no opportunity ths.t occurred
which ho would not gladly avail himself of to wrest
from their hands that sceptre of power which
they had so much abused.—(Loud cheers.) He would
be glad to know whether those men who went to
their clubs, who answered their bell, and ran into the
lobby to vote upon a question which they knew nothing
about, did not vote that black was white? Did not
their officials vote just as they were ordered by their rigid
taskmasters? When he (Mr. Reynolds) asked some of
them why they voted that way, they said they could not
help it. They were officials in harness, well secured in
a Californian trap.—(Laughter.) When he asked some
of them why they did not speak against such a Bill as
this they replied that they could not, because they la-
boured under a disease peculiar to the Treasury
benches—namely lucrative taciturnity. (Laughter.)
There was the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for
Drogheda (Sir W. Somerville), who represented a Ca-
tholic community, who had called on him three times to
resign; but he would not resign—he knew much better
than to do that. The Right Honourable Baronet was
thus keeping forcible\ possession of his seat. Because he
was Secretary for Ireland he was voting to forge the
chains upon his Catholic countrymen. There was another
Irish Member—a Lord of the Treasury forsooth—the Hon.
//ember fez. Louth (Mr. Bellew). When the Noble Lord
was impeaching his creed and his clergy on the 12th cf
that month—when he was pitching Sardinia in his face,
who was the most vociferous cheerer of the Noble Lord?—
why the Hon. Member for Louth.—(Hear, hear.) Who
was the man that cried him (Mr. Reynolds) down most
vociferously? The Hon. Member for Louth. Votes of
censure have been passed upon all such Members for
Ireland, and their representatives were called upon on
all occasions to vote against Ministers. But they had
never taunted the Opposition with voting that black was
white. Were they not constantly voting against the
Government for the purpose of putting them out of
office? Ho was censured, but they escaped obloquy.
The distinction between them was that he was guilty of
political petty larceny, while they were guilty of political
highway robbery. The handwriting W 33 on the wall.
They have been weighed in the balance, and have been
found wanting. A day of reckoning was approaching,
and so much the better. Although it might inconve-
nience some of his party, they were quite prepared to
go through it in order to test the feeling of the
country in respect to the persecutors of their religion.—
<Hear, hear.) He had now some information for the
Ministers and those seated upon the other side. This
Parliament would not last for ever—(Laughter)—and
although the Noble Lord might say to a certain number
of his followers—" Go," and they goetb ; " Come," and
they cometh, he and others would be sent about their
business in a very short space of time.—(Hear, hear.)
Let him imagine an appeal to the Irish people. Why
the watchword will be—" Down with the Whigs"—
" Down with the violators of the Act of '2l"—" Down
with the men who bring in a
Down with those Whigs who put a Bill to repeal the Emanci-
pation Act"—"
pe-
aalty of 1001. upon Dr. Murray if he consecrates a
ppriest"--" Down with the Government who will triumph
by packed
Down with the
jury and send to a felons' gaol one of our
beloved bishops if he be found guilty"—.•
men, who, forgetting their ancient professions, now let
slip their dogs of war against the creed of the Irish
people." Now he did not preteM to be a law
lord, nor, indeed, a lord of any kind.—( Laughter.)
Learned
history
He was certainly a Lord Mayor last
year, but he
bad parted with his honours, and had descended from
the exalted position of the peerage into the Commons.
a
—(Renewed leughter.) But Hon.thenet
renadd
Lord Advocate appeared to have
that Whi
with much advantage. For 200 years the
gs
were all passed; tis true
were in power the penal laws
Ge r e lll.—for then it
they went to war with King ? g
appeared that a sudden ray of enlightenment
came upon
'
them, when they waged war with that intolerant Mo-
narch; they then practised self-denial, and supported
the principle of Catholic emancipation • If they thought
themselves right they deserved no credit for their con-
duct there; and if they thought themselves wrong they
deserved considerable censure (Laughter)—
they must base bad some other object in view: They
talked of the Catholics owing a debt of gratitude to
them. Why, they were not in power when the great
charter of their religious liberties was granted them.
The Irish Catholic Members kept them in power for
twenty years, and the " Irish brigade" would never
relax their efforts until they turned thorn out of power.
The Noble Lord said the other night that this measure
of the Pope's was only part and parcel of a wide-spread
conspiracy to mar the policy of England in foreign courts.
He (Mr. Reynolds) had a word or two to say to the
Noble Lord the Secretary for For( ign Affairs (Lord Pal-
merston) upon thiseuhject. What were the facto? Cardinal
Wiseman was created so in 1847, and was then publicly
gaaetted in Rome. The Noble Lord was aware that it
was in September, 1850, that the Cardinal was elevated
to the office which he now holds. He (Mr. Reynolds)
now asserted that OD the night of the elevation of Cer-
canal Wiseman, Atchhishep of Westminster, the fact
having been duly published in Rome, Mr. Freeborn, the
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on the occasion from the base to the attic, and
had placed over the grand entrance to his man-
sion the Roy al arms of England. He would
next state another fact, end he challenged contradiction
to the statement. lie said that the same Mr. Freeborn,
the British Consul at Rome, went on that night, clotihd
in his cificial costume, to Cardinal Wieeman's levee;
and in the company of foreign Ministers celebrated
the elevation of Cardinal Wiseman to the office
of Archbishop of Westioinher. After that he
did not understand how the House could have ne-
gative ci the resolution of the Ilonourable Member fur
Stafford (Mr. 'Urquhart) that her Majesty's Govern-
ment had encouraged the heads of the Roman Catholic
Church in the conduct they had pursued. The Noble
Lord, the First Minister of the Crown, had said that
that was a European conspiracy; but he (Mr. Reynolds)
could undertake to say that neither he nor the other
Catholic Members of that House knew anything of such
a conspiracy. On the contrary, they had supported the
Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs on the
motion respecting his policy in the month of June last;
had if they had withheld that support they would have
ensured the removal of the Noble Lord from office. He
told them they would have no peace in Ireland, and that
they ought to have no peace there, if that Bill were
passed. It was the Roman Catholic bishops and priests,
and not Lord Clarendon, who had prevented an in-
surrection in Ireland in the year 1848; and yet her Ma-
jesty's Government proposed that those men should,
at present, be rewarded by a Bill of pains and penal-
ties for the services they had performed. One good
had resulted from that proposal ; and that was
that it had banded the Irish Members together as ono
man. Those Members had sworn on the altar of their
country that if that Bill became law they should, in
order to put it into execution, pass over the dead bodies
of the Catholics of Ireland.— (Cries of " Oh, oh," and
laughter.) That excited their laughter; but he would
tell them that when they were compelled to double the
police force and to turn every village into a garrison,
John Bull would begin to murmur when he found that
he would have to put his hands into his pockets up to
the very elbows. He confessed that he remembered
with shame and regret the division of the preceding day
on the insulting Bill of the Hon. Member for Bodmin
(Mr. Lacy); and he certainly was astonished to find
that ninety-one Members of that House had voted in
favour of a measure which the Hon. Member for Berk-
shire, Mr. Palmer—(Cries of "Order")—Well ho with-
drew the word Palmer---(Laughter)—which the Hon.
Member for Berkshire had declared would impose duties
which no English gentleman would undertake to dis-
charge. When he recollected that fact he could not
help feeling ashamed of the company he had of late
been keeping.—(Much laughter). He found, too, that
among the 91 Members who lied voted for the Bill
were some Free-traders—members of that party for
whom Ireland had sacrificed 3,000,0001. a year by sup-
porting the free-trado measures adopted in this country
in recent years. He believed the greater portion of
those 91 Members would have voted for a repeal of the
Roman Catholic Emancipation Act. In conclusion, he
would tell her Majesty's Government that if they were
to pass that Bill, they would enter on a struggle in
which they would necessarily be worsted. A general
election could not be far distant, and at that election
Ireland would send to that Home at bast 80 Members
strenuously opposed to any Ministry who should coun-
tenance such a measure as that; they would send to
that House men like himself—(Laughter)—not like him
physically, but like him pledged to take every oppor-
tunity of hurling from power any Government that
might attempt to cripple the civil and religious liberties
of the people of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. WHITESIDE said, that standing as he did in the
presence of men of superior ability and talent, he should
riot, if this were a question having relation to the finan-
cial affairs of this great country, have presumed to ad-
dress the House upon it. But as the question was one
of that nature in reference to which his constituents were
influenced by the greatest anxiety—one on which the
Protestants of Ireland felt the deepest interest, and one
which had stirred up the Protestant feeling of this coun-
try—he trusted he might be allowed to allude to it with-
out being supposed unnecessarily to intrude upon the at-
tention of the House.—(Hear.) The history of Ireland
was a paintul subject to reflect upon than. Would that
he could apply to it the words ot Pope—
" Let darkness hide it—let oblivion bury—"
adding from his own heart, might a bright and happy
future compensate for the gloom and memory of the
past.—(Hear, hear.) If they were obliged to refer to
history, let them look back to the past, with the view of
obtaining profit as regarded the future.—(Hea,
hear.) Who was Cardinal Wiseman ? He was one
of the Privy Councillors of the Pop?. One
by whom the Pope was eh-etc(' and who might be
Pope himself. He said he was, and no doubt he felt
himself justified in saying so, that he was a loyal subject
of the Queen. Yet what said the Pope in his rescript.
He alluded to the happy days ot England when
Jeffeey was on the bench and James on the throne. He
said that this country was to be divided into districts,
and that they were to be ruled by bishops of his ap-
pointment. His cardinal carried out the edict of his
master, and that was the condition in which England
stands at the present moment.—(Hear, hear.) On Ire-
land the Pope had also, unasked, conferred his blessing,
for he had sent Archbishop Paul Cullen as his legate to
that country.—(No, no.) Yes, Dr. Cullen appeared as
archbishop and legate of the Pope in a Protestant city
of a Protestant province in Ireland, and pro-
ceeded to execute at once the office to which he had
been appointed.—(Cries of " No," and cheers.) It had
been held by commutation on our statute that the
Pope had two modes of interfering with the internal
affairs of this country. One was by promoting foreign
invasion, and the second by fomenting domestic broils.
It was a curious fact in connexion with this point that
when physical force failed, then priestly influence was
brought into action.—(Cheers.) It was said that the
Queen's Colleges were dangerous to the faith and morals
of the Roman Catholics of Ireland. Now how did this
case stand? Why in former days the Irish Parliament
was called upon by the Roman Catholics to throw
open the colleges in that country to enable the
Catholics to compete in mental acquirements with their
Protestant countrymen. That acquirement prevailed,
and the University of Ireland was thrown open to Irish-
men of all creeds, and the honours of the University
were accessible to all men.—(Cries of "No, no.") Yes,
save those connected with fellowships and scholarships,
and in this college, founded by a Protestant Queen, and
for Protestant students, Catholics were educated, and
obtained those honours which their acquirements merited.
—(Hear, hear.) There it was that Mr. Sheil laid the
foundation for those attainments which had secured for
him the admiration of his countrymen and of that House,
and where many of the gentlemen by whom he was sur-
rounded bad obtained those educational advantages
which they now enjoyed. Yet in this university they
had a school of divinity, which was not objected to by
the bishops and clergy of the Roman Catholic Church in
Ireland. But then came the Queen's Colleges, which
were now objected to by the Roman Catholic Church, on
the ground that they were dangerous to faith and morals.
When first Sir Robert Peel proposed these colleges, he
instituted a Commission to take evidence on the sub-
ject. The first person examined on the subject was the
Protestant Archbishop of Armagh, and the second was
the Right Rev. Dr. Crolly, who, according to a com-
munication made to him by a f his at the
bead
of the cemmission, expressed himself sa well satisfied
with the intended Queen's Colleges, which were now
declared to be opposed to faith and morals, that he pro-
posed, out of his small means, to advance 1,0001. to es-
tablish a professorship. That was the state in which
the question of the Queen's Colleges stood at the time
of the death of th a late Dr. Crolly. Up to that time
'what was the mode in which Roman Catholic bishops
were elected in Ireland? The late Dr. Doyle, in his
evidence before a Committee of that House on he sub-
ject, said that while the right of the Pope was recog-
nised in Ireland as regarded the elections of bishops of
the Irish Roman Catholic Church, yet that, in fact that
right was never exercised—his course being to select one
of the
he
priests three clergymen
the office ofbishop. This submitted
the
wasthelrish
evidence of the late Dr. Doyle. Now, what had been
done upon the ooaasicn of the death of the late Dr.
Crolly? Why, three names were forwarded to the
Pops, namely, Dr. Dixon, Dr. O'Hanlon, and Dr.
Guerin, and the, Pope by the course which he had
adopted had annihilated for ever the independence of
the Roman Catholic Church of Ireland. He sot the
three names submitted to him aside, and selected for the
vacant office Dr.. P. Cullen, of whom he was dis-
posed personally to speak in terms of respect,
as he was indebted to him, when at Rome,
for great attention and courtesy.—(Hear, hear.)
Dr. Cullen, in consequence of the Pope's appointment,
came to Ireland as Archbishop of Armagh and Legate
of the Court of Biome.—(No, no.) Well, who was the
author and promo ter of the Synod of Thurles? Why,
Archbishop Cullen. Let them look to the Corm and
matter of that sy nod. The law was violated by its
being held, yet in ider the influence of a superior power
to that, by which the synod was convened, this inter-
ference with the law was overlooked. In the first place,
as regarded the form of the synod, there was a pro-
cession of priests and friars and persons of different or-
ders, and yet, although all this was done in violation of
the law, the police attended the procession, headed by
Mr. Gore Jones, the magistrate, and it was in conse-
quence believed that the synod was held under the au-
thority and sanctilon of the Government.—(Hear.) At
the procession w hich took place the cross and the crozier
well, borne by priests and bishops, and men of various
orders, just as he bad seen it at Rome. At this prows •
sion the people knelt, and the troops, paid by the State,
aaE
manifested their sympathy at solemnities that were pass-
ingxtract tkom the Times
reed before the m.—(Hear.) The Hon. Gentleman
Ireland to say why he permitted
a violation of thestr,in corroboration of this
statement. He called on the Attorney-General for
hear.) If they referredproceedings that were
andto
tahl
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theert whether rt
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steps to punish
would find that it o offenders in this case?—(Hear,
tion ; for it not onlyere
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the religion was equally deserving of condemns-
neounced the Queen's Colleges,
but all schools where
principles were carried
out—namely, where
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there the
ise the
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syno-
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sent sway at the last day for their Church waswihmepree
duty,
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poor,be the poor in the following
to thatii opinion the
and the labourer shall be saved,"
Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland assented.—(No,
synod that theHe
would say, yes; for it was said by th-t:t(
any other mot
rich were the exterminators of the people;
contrary, lie could show that such was not the but,
the
Armagh had far superior institutions to
of the county, and those institutions were principally
supported by the wealthy of that county. Ile
contended that if legal evidence could be produced
as strong as conviction, it would be found
illegal that Doctor Callen should put himself up as the
delegate of the Pore. But he should nay that if
that gentleman could. exercise authority in another coun-
try, he could not au4 ebould not have the power of en-

ercising it in Ireland. He agreed with the Hon. Mem-
ber for Manchester (Mr. M. Gibson) that the Lerd-
Lieutenant of Ire?and should have enforced the law
ceair,st the Roman Catholic bishops of Ireland, when
they assumed undue titles, us such was evident from the
uuidrese presented to the Lord-Lieutenant in 1847, in
which were such signatures as John, Archbishop of
Tuani, and John, Bishop of Clonfert. Though he might
admit that the Archbishop of Tuam might be in some
degree justifiable, yet he should say that John Cloefert
had no right to claim to assume such a title. At the
same time he should say, that the blame was not so
much to be attributed to those who assumed such titles,
as to the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, who racegnised
such an assumption by styling them " My Lord," and
e" Your Grace," and, he added to that, that he would wish
to have their advice and opinion in the management of
Ireland. Ho asked the House to look to that point, for
it was on that quibble that such titles were claimed.
Might he not have courteously told those bishops, that
he could not receive such an address, thus signed, as it
was a violation of an Act of Perliament? Again, in
the Charitable Bequests Act, the Roman Catholic:
bishops are allowed to hold rank; and the Lord.
Lieutenant, in addition to that, wrote to the governors
of the colonies to allow such titles, and all this
through the influence of the Pope, and, through such a
system, the archbishops of the Roman Catholic Church
were to have precedence at the levee of the Queen. He
did not wish to speak of the Member for Manchester
(Mr. M. Gibson) as he was absent, but he should make
one remark with respect to his speech, namely, that he
(sir. Whiteside) was astonished that that Hon. Geßus-
ntle-
man should recommend the Noble Lord (Lord J.
sell) not to mind the feelings of the people of this should
try. As to the Hon. Member for Athlone, he sho
say that he did not expect that he would appeal to any-
thing but justice, and for that reason he was astonished
at his assertion, when he stated that the passing of this
Bill would insure agitation for twenty years in Ireland,
and that nine-tenths of the people of that country were
of the same opinion; but be should say the 2,500,000
Protestants of that country were in favour of the melt-
sure.—(No, no.) Yes, the late Sir Robert Peel declared
in the House that there were 1,200,000 in Ulster; and
although Connaught had been lately laid waste, yet
there were still there some good Protestants who would
be with the people of Ulster in favour of the people of
England on this occasion. For these reasons he hoped
that his country would be guided by their counsel, obe-
dient to the laws, and inspired by their example.
Mr. KEOGH did not say there would be 20 years'
agitation. With regard to the words " drawing
swords," be considered that the Hon. and Learned gen-
tleman was rather severe, for the Noble Lord (Lord J.
Russell) had already admitted that those were used
metaphorically.
After a few words from Mt. LAWLESS, in opposition
to the measure,
Mr. MOORE considered that the speech of the Hon.
and Learned Member for Enniskillen (Mr. Whiteside)
had been a miserable failure. He wished that the
debate should he adjourned, to give every Member of
the House an opportunity of defending their repective
bishops, for the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had made
an onslaught, not only on the Roman Catholic bishops,
but on the Protestant bishops also; and for that reason
he thought that the Members for the Universities of Ox-
ford and Dublin should have an opportunity of express-
ing their opinion on such a charge. He considered that
the only point the Hon. and Learned Gentleman made
wt;s his attack on the late Attorney-General for Ireland.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that after three nights' de-
bate, and the mode in which petitions were brought fcr-
ward to delay the time of the House,
and he could not
erefore, agree
to the adjourment of the debate, should, th
take the sense of the House.
Mr. REYNOLDS believed that when the Noble Lord
(Lord J. Russell) adverted to the mode of presenting
petitions, that he alluded to him.—(Divide, divide)
No, he would not allow a division till he was done; and
he, therefore, claimed the protection of the chair.—(Gear,
hear.) In the' early part of the evening he had presented
22 petitions from 22 Roman Catholic congregations, of
whom meetings were held on Sunday last, and on that
occasion no less than 1,500 meetings were held simulta-
neously in Roman Catholic chapels throughout Ireland
for the purpose of protesting and petitioning against this
measure. These petitions they wore requested not to
present in globe, and he now told the Nle Lord that
when be had a petition to present, he would the
right which the House allowed him of reading its title,
stating its contents, and reading the names of the signa-
tures attached to it. As regarded the adjournment of
the debate, he thought there was every reason why that
should be agreed to, as there were several Irish Mem-
bers who had not yet addressed the House on the sub-
ject.—(Bear and laughter.)
After a few words from Mr. O'
eared
FLAHERTY, the
House divided, when there app
For the adjournment .............. . ... 46
Against it ................................. 359
Majority against the adjournment --313
Mr. R. M. FOX then moved the adjournment of the
House.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that if he could understand
that Hon. Members really meant to conclude the debate,
and that they were not keeping it up for the mere pur-
pose of obstruction, he would not oppose a motion for
the adjournment of the debate.—("Hear, hear," from the
Irish Members.)
The debate was thereupon adjourned until to-morrow
(Friday).
The Valuation (Ireland—Salaries and Allowances)
Bill was passed through Committee.
The Lodging Houses Bill also passed through 'Com-
mittee.
The Audit of Railway Accounts (No. 2) Bill, the En•
franchisement of Copyholds (No. 2) Bill, and the St.
Alben's Bribery Commission Bill were each read a
second time.
The Small Tenements Rating Act Amedment Bill
was read a third time and passed.
Mr. S. HERBERT havieg moved the nomination of
the Select Committee on the Passengers Act,
Mr. `'PAWN objected to the constitution of the Com-
mittee, and moved that the House do adjourn.
On the gallery being cleared for a division there were
found to be only thirty-four Members present, and an
adjournment consequently took place at a Quarter to
Two o'clock.

HER MAJESTY'S DRAWIN G,RO 03 E.
The Queen held a Drawing-room yesterday after] soon
in St. James's Palace. Her Majesty, and Prince A {bort
arrived from Buckingham Palace, escorted by a did ,ach-
ment of the Life Guarth.
Royal Highnesses the Prince and Prince es cf
Prussia were present, attended by the Countess I t. de
Macke, Countess Louisa Oriolla, and the gentler',
their suite.
His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge vin s at-
tended by the Hon. James Macdonald and Lord Vg illiam
Paulett.
His Serene Highness Prince Edward of Saxe-1 fi'eimar
attended the Drawing-room. Before the Drawir t;-room
Sir John Milbenke was presented to the Quee t at an
audience by Viscount Palmerston, Secretary ( if State
for Foreign Affair/.
The Ewa of Gosford had an audience of her lasjesty
to deliver the insignia of the Grand Cross of ti id) Bath
worn by his father, the late Earl of Gosford.
The Queen's Hon. Corps of Gentleraeraat-Are as were
on duty in the State-rooms, with their sub. officers,
Majors Cooke and Nevill. Lord Foley (Captai: iof the
Corps), Mr. James Tyler (Lieutenant), Major garmar
(Standard .132arer), and Captain Curling (Ac natant),
were present at the Drawing-room.
Her Majesty's body guard were en duty in th a palace
as usual, snider the command of Sir Seymour Sat it sr, the
Exon in Waiting.
'er Majesty and his Royal Highness the ;Prince
Albert were attended by the Countess of Gainst < Tough
(in Waiting), the Duchess cf Norfolk, the Marc h ioness
of Douro, the Viscountess Jocelyn, the Conn to 353 of
Charlemont and the Viscountess Canning, Lathe+ I of the
Bedchamber; Hen. Eleanor Stanley (in Waiting ), Hon.
Beatrice Byng (in Waiting), Hon. Amelia Murrkr„ Hon.
Matilda Paget, Hon. Caroline Cavendish, Hon.. Lucy
Kerr, Hon. Flora Macdonald, and the Hon. Mar 3 Sey-
mour, Maids of Honour; the Hon. Mrs. Trevor (in: Wait •
ing), the Viscountess Forbes, and the Hon. Mrs. 13 eorge
Campbell, Women of the Bedchamber; the Lord .Stew-
ard, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Hen e, the
Vice-Chamberlain, the Marquis of 'Ormonde, L o rd in
Waiting; Lord George Lennox, Lord in Waiting to his
Royal Highness; Licue-Colonel Hon. C. B. I IsipnEa
Keeper of her Majesty's Privy Purse; Lieut.-C tcslonel
lion. Robert Boyle, Groom in Waiting; Lieut.-C ;colonel
Francis Seymour, Groom in Waiting to his Royal ,Eligh-
nes.s; Colonel Hon. Charles Grey, Equerry in WI titing;
Lieu].-Coloncl Francis Hugh Seymour, Eque,sey in
Waiting to his Royal Highness.
The Queen wore a train of blue watered 811'k bro-
caded with gold, trimmed with blue riband and e , and
ornamented with diamonds. The petticoat was of 1 vhite
satin trimmed with tulle and white riband, and ala J or-
namented with diamonds. Her Majesty's head-dretsi ; was
diamonds and feathers.
ller Royal Highness' the Princess of Prussia we .re a
train of white watered silk trimmed with gold blonde.
The petticoat was of the same material ornamen tad in
front with poppies. The headdress was formed o 4 dia-
monds and emeralds with feathers and gold blonde,.
Her Royal Highness wore the Louisen Order, an d i also
the decoration of a Russian Order of Knighthood.
Tho following presentations to her Majesty the g,ueen
and his Royal Highness the Prince Albert took pl sese in
the Diplomatic Circle:—
By Mrs. Abbott Lawrence:—
Miss MeCurdy, daughter of the United States' Clarg‘
d'Affaires to Austria,
By the Viscountess Palmerston:—
La Comtesse Alfieri, L 63 do Cavour.
By M. Van de Weyer:—
M. Grottier, Membre sin Senat Belge.
H. ae basins Orban, Vice-President do h Chtunbre
do Commerce a L*,,,e.
lii. A. Demanet, Lieutenant-Colonel de Genie.
M. A. Poueelet, Ina:deur en Chef a l'Administration
des Chemins do Fer.
Jtdes Gernaert, Ingeaieur en Chef des Minute
M.M. Coppons.
By Mr. Abbott Lawrence:—
Hon. Mr. M. Cady, Chargé d'Affaires of the Iritited
States to Austria.
Lieutenant Parrott, of the United States' Navy.
Mr. James Lawrence, eldest son of the Minister, and
formerly Attache.
By Le Marquis d'Azsglio:
Le Comte Charles Albert Alfieri.
By Baron Koller, Austrian Chargé d'Affaires:—
Le Chevalier do Burg, President of the Austrian
Commission.
The Count Hohenthal, Saxon Minister at Paris.
By M. Marescalchi, Charge d'Affaires de France:—
Baron Charles Dupin, President de la Commission
Franeaise de l'Exposition Universelle.
M. Frederic Barret, Secretaire du Commissariat GS-
reral do France.
M. Octave Sallandrouze, Attaeli au Commissariat.
M. Ferdinand Dervien, Attaché l'Ambassade de
France I Londres.
M. to Comte de Kergorlay, Membre du Jury Francais.
The Diplomatic Circle was attended by the Bel-
gian Minister and Madame Van de Weyer, Octave
Delepierre, Secretary; Mr. Bartholeyns de Fosselaert,
Attaché; and Madame Bartholeyns de Fosselaert, the
Bavarian Minister and Baroness de Cetto, the Mis-
sion Minister and Baroness de Brunnow, and M.
Alexandre do Berg, First Secretary of Legation;
General Prince Castelcicala, Neapolitan Minister,
and M. Canofari, Secretary of Legation; the Prussian
Minister and Madame Bunsen, and Baron Lange, At-
taché to the Legation; Count de Reventlow, Danish Mi-
nister, and Count Reventlow Criminil, Secretary of
Legation; the United States' Minister and Mrs. Law-
rence, Mr. Bancroft Davis, Secretary of Legation, and
Colonel Lawrence, Attache; Senor leturiz, Spanish Mi-
nister, and M. Diaz, Second Secretary of Legation; le
Marquis d'Azegli, Sardinian Minister; le Marquis
01(joini, and Count Corti, Secretaries of Legation; Count
Schimmelpennincla Netherlands Minister, and Baron
Stratenus, Conseiller de Legation; the Greek Minister
and Madame Tricoupi; M. Mussurus, Ottoman Minister;
Prince Vogorides, Conseiller de Legation; Zia Bey,
Secretary of Legation, and Dilaver Effendi, Attachg;
Baron Haller, Austrian Charge d'Affaires; M. Mares-
calehi, Chargé d'Affaires de France, and M. de Saux,
Second Secretary of the Embassy; the Chevalier de
Ribeiro, Portuguese Chargi d'Affaires; M. Amaral,
Brazilian Charg6 d'Affaires • Viscount Palmerston,
G.C.8., the Queen's Principal Seeretary of State for
Foreign Affairs; the Viscountess Palmerston, and Col.
the Hon. Sir Edward Cut, K.C.H., her Majesty's Mas-
ter of the Ceremonies.
The following ladies ha4the honour of being presented
to the Queen in the General Circle:—
Miss Ainslie, by Viscountess Jocelyn.
Miss Emily Valence Ainslie, by her aunt, Mrs. Chisen-
hale Marsh.
Lady Emma Anderton;ter her marriage, by the Duchess
of Norfolk.
Mrs. J. Ireland Blackbiline, by her mother, Mrs.lreland
Blackburne.
Hon. Mrs. Edward Pleydell Bouverie, by Viscountess
Folkestone. •
Mrs. George Bonner, by Lady Grant.
Mrs. Brown, by the Dathess of Gaafton.
Mrs. Cary, by Lady Ctenoys.
Miss Cary and Miss Edith Cary, by their mother, Mrs.
Cary.
Miss Harriet Calthorpee by her mother, Lady Charlotte
Gough.
Miss Alice Cathcart,- by her mother, Lady Georgiana
Cathcart.
Miss Crawford, by Lidy Elizabeth Jane Wathen.
Lady Cecilia Conynkham, by Lady Churchill.
Miss Cholmeley, by'ber mother, Lady Georgians Chol-
meley. i
Mrs. Boyce Harvey' Coombe, by Lady Grace Van-
deleur.
The Hon. Mrs. Col9llle, on her marriage, by her mother,
Baroness de Clifford.
Mrs. Wodehouse Carrie, by her mother, Mrs. Vernon
Smith.
Viscountess Cran4y, by the lion. Lady Middleton.
The Hon. Mrs. Colborne, on her marriage, by Lady
Seaton.
Mrs. de Freville,l4y Lady Elizabeth Hope Vere.
Mrs. de Arroyave and Miss de Arroyave, by the Hon.
Mrs. Arbuthnot.
Mrs. J. Elphinstone Dalrymple, on her marriage, by the
Countess of Careperdown.
Mrs. Dialing, lifher mother, Mrs. Fansbawe.
Miss Caroline IsDigby, by her cousin, Lady Theresa
Digby.
Mrs. W. Duff, by Lady Laura Money.
TheCountess,of Darnley, on her marriage, by the Dow-
ager Countess of Darnley.
Mrs. G. Elerealsy 'Viscountess Palmerston.
Miss Eters, by her mother, Mrs. G. Elam
Mrs. Lane Freer, by Lady Price.
Miss Isabella Fazakerley, by her mother, Mrs.
Fezakerley.
Miss Fitz Herbert, by the Countess of Harrington.
Mrs. Colquitt Goodwin, by Viscountess Andover.
Mrs. G. Gibson, by the Duchess of Norfolk.
Miss Clara Goddard, by the Duchess of Bedford.
Mr& J. Gott, by Mrs. Weymouth.
Miss Eleanor Gosling, by her mother, Mrs. R. Gosling.
Mrs. Itutchinson, by the Dowager Countess Somers.
Misi Frances Rose Heath, by her mother, Mrs. J. B.
Heath.
Miss Hartopp, and Miss Gertrude Hartopp, by Lady
tatly Hartopp, by the Countess of Gainaborough.
Hartopp•
el.
Miss Isabella Herschel, by
mother, Lady Hersch their
Miss Herschel and M
Mrs. Boys Harvey, by. Visconatess Forbes.
The Countess of Harrington, by the Duchess of Bedford.
Lady Honyman, by Mrs. Gaseoigne.
Miss Holliday, by Mrs. Laurie.
Miss Hume, by the Countessbaydy of
La d
icklow.
y
Hon. Lady Heathcote, by Willoughby Willoughby
de Eresby.
Miss Heathcote, by her mother, Lady asffeathoote.
Mrs. Albert Hambrough,
Mrs. Hardinge, by her sister, Lady Hardinge.
Miss Maria Hardinge, by her mother, Lady Hardinge.
L
Miss kinlock, by the Marchioness of Douro.
Mrs. Nigel Kingscote, on her marriage, by Lady Char.
lotte,Calthorp Gougb.
Miss Georgina Knight, by Mrs. Edward Rice.
Mrs. Augustus Lloyd, by the Countess of Ross..
Mrs. Livesey, on her marriage, by Lady Alan Spencer
Churchill.
Mir; Mary Shaw Lefovre, by her mother, Mrs. John
Shaw Lefevre.
Hore'Mrs. Lindsay, on her marriage, by Lady Lindsay.
Miss Laurie, by her mother, Mrs. Laurie.
Mrs. Joseph Lamb, by the Dowager Lady Talbot de
Malahide.
Miss Amelia Lamb and Miss Josephine Lamb, by their
another, Mrs. Joseph Lamb.
Miss Jace Long, by her aunt, Lady Elizabeth
Thackeray.
Miss Chiseuliale Marsh, by Mrs. Fanshawe.
Mrs. Kenreth Macaulay, by Lady Trevelyan.
Mrs. Napier (of Milliken), on her marriage, by the
Countess of Charlemont.
Mies Jephson Norreys and Mies Phillips Jephson
,Norroys, by vibcoupteas Foiraepton