The Sun.
London, England, 1834-11-06 00:00:00

HUNTING APPOINTMENTS.

Lord Yarborough's Hounds, Friday. at Heronry Lodge, Manby;
Saturday, at Roxton Wood—at 11.
Lord M'etre's Hounds, Saturday, at Quinbury ; Monday, at Little
Mundcn ; Wednesday, at Pererells ' • Saturday, at Throckinf Chnrh.
The Essex Union Hounds, Saturday, at Laindon Hill ; Tuesday,
at Hadleigh ; Thursday, at Dunston Blacksmiths ; Saturday, at
North Fambridge Hall-10.

Viscount Duncannon, the Right Honourable J.
Abercromby, and Mr. Smith, had interviews yesterday with
Viscount Melbourne at the Treasury.

The Right Hon. E. Ellice and Mr. Saintsbury,
Secretary of the West India body, transacted business yester-
day at the Colonial Office.

Lord John Russell was expected to arrive in town
last evening, from Woburn Abbey, Bedfordshire.

The Envoy from Greece, the Turkish Ambassador,
M. de Bacourt, the Charge d'Affaires from France, and the
Spanish and Portuguese Ministers had interviews yesterday
with Lord Palmerston at the Foreign Office.
Lieut.-General Sir Hudson Lowe, K.C.8., tran-
sacted business yesterday at the Colonial Department.
The Adjutant-General to the Forces, and Mr. Cut-
lar Ferguson, transacted business yesterday at the Colonial
Office.

Sir Robert Smirke and Sir John Cam Hobhouse
had interviews yesterday with Lord Duncannon at the Home
Department.

Mr. Frankland Lewis, Chairman to the Commis-
sioners for Administering the Poor Law Act, visited Lord
Melbourne yesterday at the Treasury.
DUBLIN, Nov. 2.—lt is rumoured, I believe with
some foundation, that the Government has determined to
remove the Marquis of Downshire from the Lieutenancy of
the county of Down, on account of his connexion with the
recent Tory and Orange meeting at Hillsborough. The
protest against the meeting has been signed by one hundred
and eighty most respectable residents of Down.
The following public buildings are at the present
time in course of erection in this city :—St. Mathew's Church,
Kingsdown ; the Bridewell ; Brunswick Chapel, Brunswick-
square; Custom House; Excise Office, Roman Catholic
Chapel, Meridian-place ; Blind Asylum. To these will shortly
be added the Bishop's Palace, the rebuilding of which was de-
layed by the illness of the late diocesan. This duty will now
devolve on Dr. Allen, and we suppose it will be commenced
soon after he takes possession of his See.—Bristol Journal.

The Duchess of Angouleme has left Vienna, to re-
turn to her family at Prague. She lived very secluded, dined
only twice at Court, and did not appear at any place of public
amusement. She is small in stature, but very active for her
age (57 years), and pretty stout. In her meals, hours of
rising, and going to rest, she observes an almost pedantic re-
gularity.
We understand the Admiralty are about to adopt a
new method of propelling steam-vessels by quicksilver, instead
of the present custom.—Portsmouth Herald.
FALmoumr, Nov. 4.—Arrived this morning his
Majesty's packet Briseis, Lieutenant John Downey, from Ja-
maica, having sailed from thence the 24th of September, and
bringing on freight about 80,000 dollars. The state of the
island is represented as being perfectly peaceable at the depar-
ture of the packet, though, a short time previous thereto, the
negroes in the parish of St. Anne still evinced symptoms of
discontent and refractoriness, and it was feared the crops in
that district would be materially affected in consequence.
Lieut.-Colonel Doyle, Secretary to the Governor, comes pas-
senger by the Briseis, on leave of absence. Lieut. Downey
states his having been within 500 miles of this port 15 days
ago, but from the prevalence of light and contrary winds could
not reach it earlier.

ERRATA.—In our article on Saturday, on " Pro-
hibitory Duties," for ports, read parts ; for raw manufacture,
read raw material.
On Tuesday the MS. Journals of King Charles the
Second's reign, &c., belonging to the- Commons, and which
was so promtly and successfully rescued by Mr. Mitchell, the
messenger to the Journal-office, and removed from the Com-
mons to the belfry of St. Margaret's church, were conveyed
into rooms of the Guildhall of Westminster, preparatory to
their being duly assorted and more carefully preserved. Con-
sidering the ordeal of fire and water through which they had
to pass, they are singularly well preserved.
ANECDOTE OF THE LAIRD OF LOGAN.—One
day Logan happened to dine, along with some English gen-
tlemen, at the Earl of Eglinton's, when the conversation
chanced to turn on the comparative fruitfulness of the northern
and southern divisions of Britain. The Laird, who was always
a sturdy stickler for the honour and general superiority of
Scotland, displayed on the occasion the full bent of his national
predilections. One of the gentlemen, however, wishing to
come to particulars, requested to know how much wheat an
acre of the best Scotch land would produce. Logan wishing
to astound his opponent, named a quantity which he thought
would have that effect. " Pooh pooh I" said the English-
man, " that's not more than the half of what is reaped from the
very commonest of our lands in England. But now," con-
tinued he, still addressing the Laird, "what quantity of beans
will the same extent of ground produce ?" " Na, na, frien',"
said Logan, seeming piqued at being outdone, "lee about is
fair play—it's your turn to speak first noo."—Kilmarnobk
Journal.

TELL US WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.—A party of,
Oxford scholars were one evening carousing at the Star inn,
when a waggish student, a stranger to them, abruptly intro-
duced himself; and seeing he was not " one of us," they all
began to quiz him. • This put him upon his mettle, and,
besides boasting of other accomplishments, he told them in
plain terms that he could write Greek or Latin verses better,
and was, in short, an even match for them at anything. Upon
this, one of the party exclaimed, " You have told us a great
deal of what you can do : tell us something you can't do.',
Well," he retorted, " I'll tell you what I can't do—l
can't pay my reckoning !" This sally won for him a hearty
welcome.

DREADFUL FIRE, ATTENDED WITH THE Loss
OF LIVES, AND THE DESTRUCTION OF FIFTEEN HOUSES.—
Early this morning a fire broke out in the rear of the European
Tavern and Tea Gardens, in the Lower Deptford-road. The
old buildings in Jamaica-row, Clark's Orchard, and other
dense courts, soon ignited, and a respectable man of the name
of Fox, a shoemaker, fell a victim, in consequence, it is said,
of his having lingered in,his fragile tenement in order to save
some "household stuff." His wife, scarcely less fortunate,
threw herself from a parapet wall, and broke her thigh ; she
was conveyed to the Hospital without any sign of life. The
number of victims cannot at present be ascertained, and per-
haps never will be, as some of the inmates were River-men,
who only engage lodgings for the night. A young man was
seen by the spectators in the midst of the flames, imploring
aid in vain, with uplifted hands, but he soon sank to rise no
mere. The engines arrived very opportunely, or the devasta-
tion would have been greater, and so would the loss of lives,
but for the bravery of the firemen, who rescued infancy and
decrepitude from death at the risk of their own lives. The
amount of distress through this event is truly melancholy, as
the sufferers are chiefly poor industrious people, who have lost
their all.

MARCH OF HUMANITY.--At a recent ineeting
of butchers at R---, after discussing reform and the corn-
laws, the subject of railroads was brought forward, when. one
of the orators spoke enthusiastically in praise of the improve-
ment. " Among other advantages," said he, " look at that
which affects the piss brought to market ! They will be saved
the fatigues of their journey, poor things ! They will not, as
now, min down all their flesh, poor things ! They will not, as
now, run down all their taste and flavour, poor things !"
(Loud cheers.)—Hull Observer.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT BILL.

(From the Morning Chronicle.)

The following letter from Mr. Charles Phillips
gives so clear and so satisfactory an account of the
circumstances in which the Central Criminal Court
Bill originated, that if any person has attached the
least importance 'to the absurd charge in the Times
against Lord Brougham, with regard to the Bill in
question,-the•perasal'of this letter must disabuse him :

" TO THE EDITOR OF THE MORNING CHRONICLE.
" November 5, 1834.

" SlR—The introduction of my name in your paper of
to-day, on the subject of the Central Criminal Court Bill,
must be my excuse for explaining the origin and progress
of that most important measure. In consequence of some
unfortunate occurrences which had taken place at the
Middlesex Sessions, the Lord Chancellor intimated to me,
as one of the Bar, his deep regret, and his anxiety, if pos-
sible, to prevent their repetition. Amongst other things,
in the course of conversation, his Lordship suggested the
propriety of transferring much of the jurisdiction of the
Justices to the King's Judges—of creating a permanent
court for that purpose, and of concentrating within its
control all the dense population for some miles around the
metropolis, without distinction of counties. This idea
originated entirely with himself. I said it was a curious
coincidence ; but that really Mr. Alley had, a few days
before, mentioned to me some such plan as having been
30 years ago in the contemplation of Sir John Sylvester
and Mr. Shelton, and that he believed some memorial of
it might be found in the papers of the latter gentleman,
then in the possession of his nephew, Mr. Clarke. The
Chancellor naturally expressed his surprise, as he had not
been personally acquainted with either of these gentlemen ;
he said, however, that he would consult Lord Melbourne,
then at the head of the Home Department, and if that
Nobleman agreed with him in the absolute expediency of
the Government's interference, I should hear from him
again. In the course of a week, accordingly, at his Lord-
ship's desire, I atten4ed him ; when he informed me that
Lord Melbourne had at once recognised the great utility
of the principle, and would gladly co-operate in carrying it
into effect. He added, that if Mr. Clarke could find any
such document as that to which I alluded, it might be
useful with respect to the details. I asked whether I had
his Lordship's permission to make use of his name ? He
said, Certainly ; there was no occasion for secrecy ;
and I was to give his compliments, and say he would
feel much indebted for any suggestions on the sub-
ject from so experienced an officer.' I executed my
commission. Mr. Clarke gave me a copy of the rough
sketch which remained in his uncle's handwriting, with that
ready courtesy for which he is remarkable. That gentle-
man knows there was no stipulation whatever for secrecy ;
he was at liberty to mention what had occurred to all the
world ; and if he did not do so, was only restrained by that
innate modesty which every one who knows him must know
is his characteristic. No two things can be more different
that that mere sketch, and the matured measure prepared
and carried by Lord Brougham. I ought, in justice, to add
here, that the Chancellor expressly told me he meant this
measure merely as an experiment ; that if it succeeded, he
would extend its advantages to the entire country, but that
he wished first to ascertain whether its operation would turn
out really beneficial. I mention this now, in order that if
he should be enabled hereafter to reduce this great design
to practice, he may reap, without cavil, the credit which
shall appertain to it. The principle of the Bill having been
thus recognised by the Cabinet, it is quite true that the Lord
Chancellor occupied himself in rendering its details as per-
fect as possible. To my own knowledge, he was nearly three
months actively employed on it. It is quite true that he did
not trust implicitly to his own judgment. He consulted the
law officers of the Crown, he consulted the Learned Recorder,
he consulted Mr. Clarke, he consulted every one who could
give him any practical information—he laboriously weighed
their various suggestions, and at length introduced his mea-
sure with a speech of such surpassing power, that neither
in Parliament, nor out of Parliament, from any party,
was there heard a dissentient voice. To Lord Brougham,
and to Lord Brougham alone, are the public indebted
for this vast improvement. Even suppose Mr. Shelton's
bill had been adopted by him, and carried without any
amendment—the very reverse of truth—the country
would still owe him all its gratitude for having called it
into activity. But for him, it might have slumbered
peaceably for another thirty years, amid the dust of the
Old Bailey. But, I repeat, the bill, as it is, is Lord
Brougham's bill, embracing, in its conception and details,
the rare combination of his industry and genius ; and
destined long to remain, I hope, a monument of both.
"So much have I felt myself called on to state, in
strict justice to the Lord Chancellor, utterly regardless of
any imputation to which I may be subjected. Lord
Brougham knows better than any one else, whether I am
justly chargeable with any unworthy motive. He knows
that I have never shown myself solicitous for his favours,
though there can be no one who feels more than I do, both
gratified and honoured by his friendship.
" I am, Sir, with great respect,
CHARLES PHILLIPS."

If Lord Brougham had found a Bill drawn by
Mr. Shelton in so perfect a state, that, without ma-
terial alteration, he could have at once submitted it to
Parliament, no rational person would think of blaming
the Chancellor for his readiness in giving the country
the benefit of the Bill. But Mr. C. Phillips informs
us, that "no two things can be more different than
that mere sketch (left by Mr. Shelton) and the ma-
tured measure prepared and carried by Lord Brougham."
Mr. Phillips adds, that the Chancellor told him that
he meant the measure as an experiment, and that, if
successful, the measure would be extended to the whole
country. The Standard, in an able article on the
subject of this strange accusation, after dwelling on
the immense advantage to the country of this Bill, in
" the more certain punishment of the guilty, by bring-
ing them to trial while the evidence of their offences
is still fresh in memory—before witnesses can be con-
veniently tampered with, and while there is less likeli-
hood of business or casualty removing them from the
jurisdiction of the Court," and." the abridgment of the
unjust suffering or the innocent," proceeds to observe—
" We need say the less of the merits of .the Metropoli-
tan Bill, because there seems to be no second opinion upon
the point ; but it is necessary, in' justiceto the Chancellor,
to recite these merits more specifically, because they are, in
fact, the objects which his Lordship had pursued in a mea-
sure of a much more comprehensive description—pursued,
we shall ever regret it, unsuccessfully, but certainly with
sincerity and ardour. The Metropolitan Bill is, in fact,
but a circumscribed application of the principle of the un-
lucky Local Courts' Bill ; and of that principle it cannot
be denied the Chancellor was the original patron ; and
as far as a man can be called author of a principle, the
original author. The case, then, just comes to this—
the Noble Lord has obtained for the Metropolitan dis-
trict, that which he would have obtained, if he could, for
the whole kingdom. That in adapting his principle to
the Metropolitan district, he availed himself of the Crown-
office experience of Mr. Shelton, of the legal learning
and Home-office experience of Mr. Secretary Phillips ;
and of the learning, talent, and, if we may make another
distinction, forensic experience of Mr. Charles Phillips,
seems to us a just topic of praise, rather than that of
apprehension. Our fault, with Lord Brougham, is very
much the same which he finds with the Houses of Parlia-
ment. We think he is always doing too much ; that
he undertakes more than he, or any other man is, ever
was, or ever can be, competent•- to ; and we are happy to
find that, in thiS case, he has preserved one attribute of a
great mind—namely, not to occupy himself with details,
without preserving which, ten greater men than Lord
Brougham could not- usefitill -65inplete one-half of all he
undertalthi.. We should, indeed, have thought meanly of
his Lordship if we had found him meddling with the par-
ticular clauses of the Bill. #* * * *
Mr. Chas. Phillips has, in the course of a few years, by the
mere force of his talents, obtained the undisputed lead in
the Court about to be modified ; and obtained that undis-
puted lead from men of great learning and talents, many,
very many years his seniors. Let us' add, that as he has
won his position well, he wears it honourably, and with the
full and respectful approbation of the competitors whom he
has left behind—a felicity of success rare anywhere, most
rare, we fear, at the bar. As this gentleman's name has
been brought in question, we owe it to the cause of truth
to give our humble testimony in support of his great talents ;
the sincerity of that testimony cannot be questioned when
its nature is known. Upon an occasion when we thought
that it might be necessary to defend the liberty of the Press
against a criminal prosecution, with the whole Bar before
us to choose, Mr. Chas. Phillips was the advocate of our
choice. It would be unbecoming to say more, but it would
be ungenerous not to say so much.
Now, if in new-modelling the metropolitan criminal
court, the Lord Chancellor had overlooked the suggestions
bequeathed by Mr. Shelton, or neglected to avail himself of
the aid to be had from Mr. Secretary Phillips and Mr.
Charles Phillips, how much would lie have been to blame
And yet, that he did not deserve this blame, seems to be
the main ground of accusation against him."
The malice of the Times has thus only served to
draiv forth testimony to the Chancellor's merits, and to
place them more conspicuously before the public.
Balaam went to curse, and was made the instrument of
blessing the children of Israel. If Lord Brougham
remain true to himself, he may pray for a succession of
such attacks as those in the Times of Monday and
Tuesday last.

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