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OCTOBER 28, 1851.
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MIAMI . EWE

the sons and relations of Peers—from the House of
Commons. He, for one, never dreamed of such a
thing, where they were the people's choice. Let them
have the qualifications to recommend them, and they
would find their way there, and deserved to do so ;
but what was complained o *as, that they were sent
there as the nominees of Poeie from paltry boroughs,
twenty or thirty of which would not number as many
voters or people as should entitle them to a single re-
presentative.—(Cheers.) It was not the place a man
was sent for, but the class he belonged to, that mainly
influenced his opinions. If a number of Quakers sent
a naval or military officer to Parliament, did he become
a member or friend of the Peace Society therefore ?
Diadr he not
andno vote thattlookrathe the rather to
ptlrooafessin
interestso of his comrades
in might flourish ?
Therefore it was that he wished that the middle class,
and the operatives even, should have persona of their
own class to repiesent them.—(Cheers.) They were
told the people who had possession of the people's
house were chosen and sent there. Chosen by whom ?
Be one male adult out of seven, of persons under
influence, the line of exclusion being drawn according
to rent, and not of brains, so as to include shopkeepers
and tenants-at-will, but to exclude the sturdy intelli-
gent operative, who was really the most independent.
Looking at the register, it seemed that only one voter
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system,nteenw in f
was of theac,t working class, so that the
electoral
gave only one out of 105 as
the working man's proportion. That was by
whom they were chosen. Where were they chosen ?
By little places such as Thetford and Arundel,
where a couple of hundred voters returned
Members to Parliament, while Manchester and Li-
verpool did no more.—(Hear, hear.) The big and
little were jumbled together without system, like
looking through different ends of the telescope at
thew. It was as if you were looking at a flea and
an elephant.; nine way the flea was as large as the
elephant, and the other way the elephant was as small
as the floa.'—:(Cheers and laughter.) And they were
chosen by a septennial revel of the grossest corrup-
tion andelebauchery. We talked of our Constitution;
why, if this was it, the banner of the British Consti-
tution was a bank-note, and its basis a beer-barrel.—
(Cheers and laughter.) In returning them for six
or seven irresponsible years we seemed to forget the
homely maxim that short reckonings made long friends.
They asked Lord John Russell to remedy these times.
If his Reform Bill would achieve this they would re-
ceive it with thankfulness ; if not, they had to tell
him their system would do it, and he ought to
come to them. What was the natural result of
such a system ? Unequal taxation—taxation which
in spirit was like the corn-laws, where the poor
man's bread was made to pay the landowner's
rent, taxation bearing upon the necessaries of life
rather than on property. What were the results of
this system but a monopoly of office for clans and
classes of people, and even for families, so that when
one leader of a party went out of office ha advised her
Majesty to send for the leader of the other aristocra-
tic faction ? We read the effects of this system in
the diversion of all our institutions from their proper
objects. We saw it in the Church; we saw it in the
colonies ; we saw it in keeping a large army at home
that there might be a change of service in the colo•
nies. A large portion of our army answered no pur-
pose but that. How was it these troops were wanted
in the colonies ? It was because we do not give them
constitutions, nor allow them the command of their
own purse-strings. To the colonists of the Cape of
Good hope we had been promising a constitution for
a quarter of a century, but at last instead of a consti-
tution we had given them Sir Harry Smith, who was
playing antics with the Kafir chiefs, and was en•
gaged in a war with them of which it is impossible
to estimate the cost. It was to check these results
that we called for a different representation of the
people. We wanted a statesman who understands
the true character of the Saxon race, and who
would deal with them frankly, confidingly, and gene-
rously. In the times of serfdom the people were al-
ways ready to follow the barons who led them on to
win charters which laid down principles that secured
the heritage of freedom to their posterity. In later
times there had been nothing like the spirit mani-
fested in this country by the industrious classes. What
invention had they not seized ?—how marked had
been their progress—they had founded new empires
—they were still founding them—at the very anti-
podes. In every moral and religions work they had
shown themselves equally forward. The middle and
working classes carried the Reform Bill and the re-
peal of the Corn-laws; and to them we should owe
another Reform Bill.—(Loud cheers.) We wanted
a Reform Act which shall adjust the representation
to the population, and the property if you like. Hap-
pily, it comes to the seine thing, for where
there is most population there is most pro-
perty all the kingdom over. After referring
to the pleasure he felt in Standing in the
company of so many veteran Refyrmers, the Hon.
Gentleman concluded by
baying We are no inno-
vators, we are not new-fangled constitution-mongers
—we are not revolutionists—wee adhere to principles
which have been asserted generation after generation,
and which are the real constitutional principles of
—l'
this country—which, while it has one house of here-
ditary legislature, should have another house of re-
presentative legislature--a House of Commons, no-
minated by the commons of England.—(Loud
cheers.) We have nailed our flag to the mast ; it
was not lowered for Pitt, Castlereagh, Peel, or Wel-
lington, and it shall not be stained or dishonoured for
a Grey or a Russell.—(Prolonged cheering.) We
‘arshkenyonauatyo
ywo•ourk,satyo lito your children,
ellu:tohwnren, for the people the
temple o f
great and permanent good of real representation.
order
end
edto
reform abuses, this magnificent
justice we helped to build, and we now leave you the
heritage we received from our forefathers, not only
unimpaired, but improved and carried forward to
perfection. Do you the same, and you will have the
consolation which we now feel of saying that we
leave the world better than we found it.”—(The Hon.Oa
we
hel
Gentleman resumed his seat amid l •
d and prolonged
cheering.)
The resolution was carried unanimously.
Mr. THOMAS WRIGLEY moved the next resolution.
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He said, common sense and common prudence would
dictate him to be very concise in anything he had to
say on this occasion, after havin heard
a gentleman
of such eloquence and power of mind as 11r. Fox. It
could not but appear strange to those who had given
the matter any consideration,: that is this country,
where there is a representative Government, the good
which we desire and require for the.improvement of
our condition had to be wrung from them by the exer-
cise of almost physical force. Everything we have
had, everything we have earned, was obtained by the
determination of the people out of doors, by the force
which the people brought against the powers who had
possession of the State. All remember that recent
act of legislation—that recent but greatest of all
blessings which this country ever obtained from Go-
vernment—the repeal of the corn-law. He remem-
bered the cost and labour at which that act of justice
was obtained, and he hoped they would all remember
with gratitude the name of Richard Cobden as long
as they lived.—(Great cheering.) They were now
met to demand from the Legislature that justice which
should come of its own free will from Government—
a reform of the representation of the people. The
d he had no doubt that if the same union, the same
principles had been stated in the previous resolution ;
goodan
s
sense and calm resolution, were manifested by
the people, the result achieved in the case of the corn-
laws would be achievedin the case of the reform in
Parliament.—(Cheers.) The resolution be had to
propose said—
" That the cordial union and energetic action of all
Reformers are now imperatively requisite. That the
principles advocated by the Parliamentary and
merit the support of the
body of the
great e
people of this kingdom ; and this
of Reformers of uver hpledge
meeting, consisting
themselves to sustain the well-directed efforts of that
association."
He was sure he could have no objection to anything
Financial Reform Association •
that was put forward by the terms of the resolution ;
at the present moment the country was experi-
encing the danger they had to
.guard against was this—
thath
a degree of prosperity unexampled in history;
and it was natural to fear, at times, that that very
WI e the
to that which is in the future. n opportunity
dut of
prosperity might bring about an apathetic indifference
was afforded it was the y prudent men to take
a stand, and to demand that which was their right,
and which was only true Justice. The terms of the
resolution which he bad just read were all more or less
important. The question of thnce.e suffra(ilear.)ge was, pßut he
must confess he was not satisfied with the request for
triennial Parliaments. He did not wish to go indis-
creetly to work, and was impressed with the opinion
orta—
that of the greatest imp
that triennial Parliaments would not effect the purpose
those gentlemen asked for in shortening the duration of
source of evil in bad representa-
tion arose from the sources of tnat representation being
Parliaments. The great
corrupt. They found that constituencies were bought
and sold in small boroughs, and it was only such
places as the borough of Lancashire, where the
people were numerous and had not time to be cor-
rupt, that nullified to some small extent the corruption
of distant places. He would destroy the Septennial
Act and carne down at once to annual Parliaments;
because in so doing they would make it impossible
for any man to attempt to corrupt his neighbour.

MEETING FOR PARLIAMENTARY
REFORM AT BURY.
A meeting of Parliamentary Reformers was held
at the Town-hall, Bury, Lancashire, on Friday even-
ing, at which Mr. W. J. Fox, M.P., and Mr. Tindal
Atkinson were present by invitation as a deputation
from the National Parliamentary and Financial Asso-
ciation. The hall was well filled, and some influential
men of the middle class and some ladies were also

The seat which is valuable for seven years would be
still valuable for three years; but bring it to an an-
nual election, and they would see the people safe
from temptation, and their representatives go up pure
and honest men. Constituencies which are now cor •
rupt would become pure, and representatives would
b?corne honest by coming continually and constantly,
in contact with their constituents. From this fre-
quency and constancy people would come to the know-
ledge that they were performing grave and responsible
duties, and begin to exercise those minds which were
at present dormant. By giving the people annual
Parliaments they would give a greater spur to educa-
tion than any education Bill, because the people would
be led to appreciate and value the cultivation of the
mind when they had a purpose to which to apply it.
Mr. T. GRUNDY, solicitor, seconded the resolution.
Mr. TYNDAL ATKINSON, barrister-at-law, was re-
ceived with applause. He said that the great diffi-
culty which had always stood in the way of human
prowess, as far as political rights were concerned, had
been the divisions which bad been sown among the
people themselves. A bad Government could not
exist a single instant were it not for the division of
class interests. The middle and lower classes must
now understand each other and unite in the great
movement about to take place. Mr. Atkinson then
proceeded at great length to review the national ex-
penditure and show the extravagance of the financial
system; referring in particular to the penbions of the
Richmond and Grafton families, and to the misma-
nagement of the Woods and Forests. He concluded
by enforcing the necessity of union, and of continued
and persevering efforts for the enlargement of the
rights and liberties of the people.
The rein was carried unanimously.

present.
Mr. J. GRUNDY, of Oatwood-lodge, presided, and
opened the proceedings.
Mr. B. GLOVER moved—
" That the First Minister of the Crown having inti-
mated his intention to introduce a measure of Parlia-
mentary reform during the next session, the people
should lose no time in giving effective expression to their
wishes; this meeting cloth therefore declare that any
measure which does no re-arrange the electoral dia.
tricts, extend the franchise to every occupier of a tene-
ment, privet the voter by the ballot, shorten the dura•
tien of Parliament, and abolish the property qualification
required of Members, will flit to satisfy the just expec•
LE:Lolls of the people—will be ineffectual in preventing
the corruption, intimidation, and oppression now pre-
vailing at elections, and in securing the full and free re-
presentation of the people in the Commons' House .of
Parliament."—(Applause.)
Mr. E. GRUNDY, of Park• hills, seconded the motion.
Mr. W. J. Fox, M.P., was then introduced to the
meeting, and said he supported the resolution in the
sense and spirit shown by the chairman and seconder,
believing that financial reform was a most important
consideration, and that the direct road to it was a re-
form of the mode of choosing and amending the re-
sponsibility of those who are to have the holding of
the people's purse-strings, and that by a householder
We should mean every man whom a house holds.—
(Laughter and cheers.) They were met at an inte-
resting time, when an illustrious stranger had just
reached our shores—(Cheers)-7-and the best compli-
ment we could pay KOSsuth was by showing that,
vs hile cheering him, we were the guardians of our
own country's rights. Let us show that we were
worthy to welcome Kossuth to our shores, that
our struggle, like his, is a constitutional, though
determined one—let us exhibit that which constitutes.
his real greatness, and that we belonged to that bro-
therhood of integrity, independence, and universal
freedom which distinguishes the real nobility of man-
kind from its baseness and its slavery.—(Hear,
hear.) The Metropolitan Association he and his
friend were there to represent might be said to.
have originated in the feelings of some new
Members of the. House of Commons—some that were
new in the present, and some that were new in pre-
vious Parliaments ; men who had felt that they were
breathing a different atmosphere to what they had
been accustomed to out of doors, where different
feelings, sentiments, and sympathies prevailed. And,
fseling that they could hardly be listened to with re-
spectful attention, they said to themselves, " How is
this ?" Some of the older Members were prepared to
sympathize with them, and Mr. Hume took the load
in that respect. Thus originated his annual motion
for reform, in which they found the profession of the
National Reform Association. That might be said to
be the origin of it. Originally it came from the
members for the people, who" said, " How is this ?
Was it your meaning to send us to a place where there
is very little political sympathy—where there is
so little care of the public money, where lavish ex-
penditure is so continually incurred for objects which
you feel no particular interest in, or which you per-
haps object to ? 1)0 you wish for these large arma-
ments to be kept up in the 35th year of peace ?
It* it be so, we have egregiously mistaken you; you
have sent us to Parliament on false principles. But
if it be not so, and if we rightly interpret your sen-
timents., then come forward and assist us ; for
without that assistance we can do nothing. Let us
find that we have you at our backs when we urge
upon the House such things as tend to remove these
ircongruities, and to remedy these evils."—(Hear.)
Thus originated the society of which Sir Joshua
Walmsley was the president, and which numbered
many members, besides local associations in many of
the towns and counties of this ;kingdom. Another
reason why we should discuss this question at the
present time was, that Lord John Russell had pro-
missed another Reform Bill. What it was to be we
knew nothing of at present, for it was not the custom
for Governments to lay their intentions before the
public for consideration ere they brought them into
the Legislature. The consequence was, that the
public was always liable to be taken by surprise ;
they were like jurymen having to say aye or no to a
proposition which they had no time to consider, and
which, perhaps, it was scarcely possible to calculate
the consequences of, or to give such a decisive verdict
upon as might be obtained if there was opportunity
for a full and continuous canvass beforehand. Then,
as Lord John Russell would not tell them his mind,
suppose they told him theirs.—(Cheers.) His man-
ner seemed to invite this. He seemed to say, " What
do you want, and what will content you ?" Their
answer was in the resolution before the meeting,—
(Cheers.) They did not propound this as all the
people would ever require; they only said it combined
a larger amount of support, in and out of Parliament,
than any other changes which had been submitted to
his consideration. If his Lordship chose to propose
anything broader than this, by all means let him do it
—(Cheers) —and they would give their careful con-
sideration to any strong measure which he might have
in contemplation.—(A laugh.) In the meantime they
gave him this as their minimum, as being large
enough to secure the benefits of a real representation
such as they did not now possess, while it was limited
enough to satisfy any cautious Reformer, and while it
was constitutional in all its parts. Small and poor
boroughs were not originally selected because they
were small and poor, but because, comparatively, they
were then rich and populous, and on this ground they
claimed a redistribution of . seats. Lord J. Russell
had repeatedly confessed that householders' votes he
deemed to be the common law of the land. Then
give us household votes, or else universal suffrage,
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a man's vote might be his own and not his landlords
or his customer's. Triennial Parliaments bad been
the law, and even annual, till that monstrous usurpa-
tion the S,,Ptennial Act was introduced, upon a prin-
ciple by which the Legislature might have made itself
perpetual or hereditary. Here then they were within
reasonable limits, and it was only by such a union
as this offered that anything had ever been won from
the ruling classes. Looking at the aristocratic and
titled classes, he thought they were pretty well pro-
vided for already. They were not merely left the en-
joyments of their rank, their wealth, their station—
though these were pretty considerable, and might
content many reasonable persons—(A. laugh)—but
they had a good deal more than this; all the insti-
tutions of the country were worked in their favour.
—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) They had whatever
Was most profitable in connexion with the
monarchy. How were the large sums an•
Dually voted for the Sovereign in this country--how
were they expended ? Not by the Queen. Her
Majesty, God bless her ! could not get through half
the money voted in her name.--(Cheers.) It did
not go into the purse of the Queen, but to the Lords
who were grooms of the chamber, the ladies in wait-
ing, the gold sticks, and silver sticks, and black sticks,
and masters, of the buckhounds, and ladies of the
bedchamber. That was to say, it furnished some
nice pickings for a particular class, and it was the
contemplation of such expenditure as this that made
John Milton say of it in his day, that " the mere
trappings of a monarchy would be enough to sup-
port a republic."—(Cheers.) But that was not all.
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whatever his intellect or capacity, of the middle class,
in the Cabinet. You saw the Cabinet full of Lords,
mid generally, too, Lords who were relatives of one
another. Had Kossuth run his career of patriotism in
this country he could scarcely have been admitted into
the Cabinet. The great Edmund Burke, whose writings
were referred to as to some political bible, great
DS he was, and though first the Whig and then the
Tory party gave him a place, not one ever thought of
admitting him to the Cabinet. The Peers and titled
classes got all the best offices—governorships in the
colonies, ambassadorships, and diplomatic posts. The
nominees of Peers often found their way into places as
well as into the nominal representation of the people
in the Honse of Commons. He said, then, having all
these advantages—having rank, title, and wealth---
they might be content to leave the House of Com-
mons for the Commons.—(Hear, hear.) The Howe
of Peers was their house, and let them keep to their
owe side. It had been said that some of them wished
to exclude the Peers—that was, the nominal Peers,

THE COLLISION AND SINKING OF THE
PASHA STEAM-SHIP.
STATEMENTS OF THE COMMANDERS.
The following are the depositions of the comman-
ders of the Pacha and Erin steam-ships, regarding
the extraordinary collision between those fine vessels,
taken before Captain Barker, of her Majesty's ship
Amazon. The unfortunate event, it will he recol-
lected, took place in the Straits of Malacca, and many
lives were sacrificed. The circumstances excited
considerable sensation ; it has no parallel in the chap-
ter of steam-boat accidents. The explanation of the
commanders of the vessels have been looked for with
much interest.
Mr. Robert Douglas Millar sworn, states,—l was
captain of the Peninsular and Oriental Company's
steamer Pasha. I left Singapore in command of her
at one o'clock raw. on the 21st of July, bound to Pe-
nang and Calcutta. About half-past six o'clock that
evening, or it might have been a little later, we were
abreast of the Carimons, then about mid-channel. I
sent for the chief officer and told him that I wanted
to steer a straight course up the Straits N.W. by W.
As the chief officer had been accustomed to
the compass, I asked him if there would
be any error in thus doing. He said he did not
think there was any local variation of the
compass. I remarked to him that in the table of
errors I had on board it was given five or six degrees
to the eastward. He said again he did not think
there"was any error. From that time up to seven
bells (half-past eleven) I had been constantly on deck,
quarter deck, and the bridge, I went below for a few
moments occasionally to look at the chart. Although
I had been told that there was no error in the com-
pass, I still felt very anxious on that point. I fancied
the ship had gone in more on the Malacca shore than
I wished. I was under no particular apprehension.
I was on deck myself, and intended to remain on deck
all night. I mentioned this my intention to the doc-
tor about ten o'clock. At seven bells, or a little
after, I was standing at the foremost binnacle com-
pass, chip's head then N.W. by W., and at that par-
ticular moment a light was reported by the third
officer. To the best of my recollection it was the
third officer who was standing on the starboard side
of the bridge. I immediately went on to the bridge,
and thence on to the paddle-box. I then saw a light
about a point on our starboard bow, or thereabouts.
I had to get over the mainyard, which was
lowered down, before I could get on to the paddle-
box. When I first saw the light it struck me
it must be a steamer's light, and I remarked,
" That it was a steamer's light." I was just
about to order the helm to port, but considering for a
moment, I called out starboard, saying at the time,
"IVe can on no account go in shore of the other ves-
sel, for I am afraid we are already too close in to the
land." When the helm had been put a starboard we
brought the light about four points on our starboard
bow; the light then suddenly disappeared. This was
three or four minutes after I first saw the light, and
as near as I could judge it did not appear for five or
six minutes. In consequence of this sudden disap-
pearance, and not seeing it again immediately, I be-
gan to think it was a light on board some ship or boat
anchored near the shore. I made this remark just
before the re-appearance of the light. I had hailed
them aft, to bring her head to again, as she was then
out of her course ; her helm had been put to port, and
she was in the act of coming to when the light re•
appeared. The bearing of the light at this time ap-
peared to be one or two points on our starboard bow,
but as the ship's head was lying about, I immedi-
ately, on the re-appearance of the light, called out
" starboard." Shortly after this I went on to the
bridge ; the third officer left it and went aft. At
this time I hailed them aft to keep the light well
on the starboard bow. I frequently asked how
her head was. I was told W. by N., and W. N.,
and, I think, by W. I cannot say by which compass
he was steering. There is a difference of half a point
between the standard compass and the other. The
light was about three points on our starboard bow,
and had been so from the time we kept away on the
second occasion. I then ordered a blue light to be
burnt. This was about twenty minutes previous to
the collision. The blue light was burnt, and shortly
after the other vessel answered it by burning one. I
was then confident that the light I had seen was a
steamer. At the time the other steamer burnt a blue
light I could see her mast head. I then went aft, feel-
ing anxious about the steering, and by the standard
binnacle compass her compass was fast. The third
officer, who was aft, made some remark, and which I
do not recollect, but I remember answering him by
saying, " That ship will never come near us ; she
surely can see which way we are steering." I
desired the man at the wheel to pay particular at-
tention to his helm. I got on the rail to look
at the light, and it bore then hard on our
starboard bow. I then for the first time saw
her port (red) paddle-box light and some other
lights, probably in the engine-room. I think I
saw the green light for a moment, but I cannot be
sure, judging from circumstances, the way our head
was, and bringing the other ship so far on our bow.
I had not the least idea we should go near her. I had
got off the rail once or twice to look at the compass.
The night had been pretty clear till about a quarter
past eleven. Stars had been out, but it was then
getting somewhat cloudy. About ten minutes before
twelve it became misty. Up to this time I had no
idea of danger; she appeared to be abeam, or even
abaft the beam. I thought she might pass close, but
not nearer than 100 or '2OO yards, but had not the
slightest idea of stopping our engines. I wished to
keep away from her, when all at once it appeared as if
she put her helm to port, and endeavoured to cross our
bow. Up to this time she had appeared to be coming
end on, but in an instant I saw her broadside ; she was
then within two or three ships' lengths of us. I called
out to the Erin, " Hard a-starboard ; where the deuce
are you coming ?" I did this twice. I immediately
saw that a collision was unavoidable. There was
not time to shift the helm, the helm being then hard
to starboard, when she came upon us at an angle of
45 or 50. I thought there was a chance of passing
us, but I could do nothing to save the collision ;
my helm was half-a-starboard. When the helm
came close I called out to the chief engineer
to stop her. Somebody was aft, and I heard
something about lowering the boats. I called out, in
reply, "Lower away as fast as possible." I was on
the rail when the Erin struck us, and the shock was
so great as to pitch me off the deck. I then went to
the break of the poop, with the intention of going
forward, as I heard those on board of the Erin calling
out, " Come on board, you are sinking:' At this
time the Erin's bow was well over our deck. I
jumped into the saloon, partly to call up those who
might be there, and partly to get a box containing
tne ship's documents, seamens' register tickets, and
some of my own papers. When I got down I called
out as loud as I could for every one to go on deck.
The steward was the only one I met below. His
name is Harper. H
ell
Ile was saved. I tried to o
the drawer to get out my papers, but could n
tpd
the droawero.
so. I always had a diffictlty in opening
I was down only an instant, and went gon deck, and
went on the bridge. I heard my name called by
I
some one on board the Erin. believe it was the
captain. At this time.the Pasha was gradually settling
down. I got hold of the Erin's bower anchor, which
was eatheaded and fished. The Pasha instantly
went down, head first, leaving me hanging on the Erin's anchor. In going down n her quarter grazed
my leg. Her foremast
fore-
castle, obliging the men to
runove r
aft. the h e Erin's When
theyreturned a rope was thrown over
to me, and I was
hauled up. I saw many of the Pasha's people for-

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(Signed) THOMAS 11. TROUSON.
Strange to say, not the least vestige of the wreck of
the Pasha can be found. She had on board nearly
halfa million of specie, besides several chests of
treasure.

CIDENT to the ROYAL MAIL STEAM-

SHIP AFRICA.
LIVERPOOL, MONDAY, OCT. 27.—At seven o'clock
this morning the British and North American royal
mail steam-ship Africa, which left this port for New
York on Saturday last, returned to her berth, having
met with an accident when only a few hours out, by
running aground near the Copeland Islands during a
dense fog, at about ten o'clock on Saturday night.
We are happy to say there has been no loss of life,
and that, beyond the damage done to the hull of this
noble steamer, the disaster is unattended by any serious
results.

The particulars of this unfortunate occurrence, so
far as we have been enabled to ascertain them in the
confusion consequent upon the catastrophe, are as
follows :—About two o'clock in the afternoon the
pilot was discharged, and a dense fog soon after set
in, so dense, indeed, that it was impossible to see
half the length of the vessel. Captain Ryrie
mediately slackened speed, and proceeded el n
oil
on his course ; but, notwithstanding the
pre-
cautions. taken, the Africa struck on a reef of rocks
near the entrance to Belfast Lough, though from the
easy rate at which the engines were moving the con-
cussion was but slight. The. ensines were immedi-
ately reversed ; but the tide,
which was running at a
rapid rate, carried her some distance on the rocks, and
rendered the backward movement of the engines
fruitless. After every
effort was
4,28 by Captain
Ryrie and his crew to liberate the
ship,
ebbing fast, signal
guns were fi and
othe tide
sistance, but it was
nin r
eas-
before any arrived o'clock red f
next morning
, when two amers arrived from Belfast, and shortly afterwards ate third made her
appearance. At low water, the entire fore part of the
Africa, from midships, was high and dry, but the sea
being very smooth at the time,
she did not strain
much, and it was found that she scarcely made any
water. As soon as the tide began flowing, prepara-
tions were made to get her off; ropes were made fast
to the three steamers, and, being aided by the en-
gines of the Africa, succeeded in getting her into deep
water. After she had been released, Captain Eyrie
resolved on returning to Liverpool, where he arrived
this morning at seven o'clock, attended by one of the
steamers which had assisted in getting her off the reef.
The Africa was taken into the north graving-dock
this afternoon, for the necessary examination and re-
pair. No blame can, it is admitted by the best j edges,
be attributable to any person, as the occurrence was
beyond all human forethought.
MEETING OF THE PASSENGERS.
Immediately upon its being made known tc the
passengers that Captain Ryrie intendedto return to
saloon,
Liverpool
on, a meeting of the whole took place in the
Sunday afternoon, when a committee was
formed to prepare such resolutions as might be deemed
expedient under the circumstances, The committee,

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II PI
consisting of the following gentl,en—Messfs.,,e
Thomas Lockhart, If. Melt:neck, E. MolypeuxL
ward Menlove, David Bellhouse, Charles Con-
grove, Sohm '
idt Joseph Stitt, Frtita
A , estur., and Joseph Lazlrus, then proposed (161411!--" ;:fJV
41t) lowi
the
"1. That we sincerely sympathise with Captain
Ryrie in the accident which has rendered it necessary
to return to the port which we have so recently left.
2.__That the accident, according to our judgment,
can only be ascribed to the prevalence of a dense fog,
which prevented the Copeland Lights from being
seen, and to those strong tidal currents which prevail
in the North Channel, of which we had ample evi•
dence when the ship was extricated from her perilous
position.
" 3. That the manly firmn-ss and promptitude of
action displayed by Captain Ryrie under these trying
circumstances command our highest admiration, and
entitle him to our fullest confidence as a commander
and seaman.
"4. That our best thanks are due to Captain
Ryrie, and his officers, engineers, and crew, and all
connected with the ship,' foe-their laborious and un-
tiring exertions iu removing her -rota her dangerous
position, in which for more than twelve hours she was
placed.
"5. That a copy of these resolutions be presented
to Captain Ryrie, and that they be published.
" Royal Mail Steam-ship Africa, Oct. 26, 1851."
Messrs. M•lver, with that promptitude which cha-
racterises their management, at once determined upon
getting the Royal Mail steam•shipTanada, Captain
Harrison, ready to convey the Africa's mails, pas-
sengers, and cargo to their destination, and she will
be dispatched to-morrow afternoon. The passengers
will embark from the landing stage at half-past twelve
o'clock to-morrow.

[PRICE SD.

ward on the Erin. I saw several taken over her bows.
I was hanging on the anchor three or four minutes
before the rope was thrown over to me. I had some
difficulty in getting aft. As soon as I got there I
saw the boats being lowered ; indeed, I think they
were already down. Everything was cut away and
the boats lowered as expeditiously as
possible. The
Erin was very much down at her head. Her bows
mEyr isre) ,
lsf ltiag hhta
have
ep
beenttheo retapimaen
responsible
toe
i
were driven in. From the time of my first seeing the
b lefa
rctlhleisicohnalrgeof consider
the
av
be se syeel
d. . AFfiraomr d
th e tierstn were
me of
given
seeing
by me
the and Erin's
n'sg promptlye
had steered a 'W. i- N. course about four miles. After
the Erin's light was re-hoisted shei a
y tphpaeacraem to near
d es
us as if her course had altered.
appeared to be drawing aft, and I thought shrsysould
pass us well on the starboard side. Till I saw her
broadside she appeared to be running S.S.E. I
saw
the land just before the collision, about seven bells--
the land above Mount Formosa by indifferent bear-
ing N. by E. When I saw the Erin's light I fancied
myself about five miles from the shore. I did not see
the low land. I calculated the Erin to be six or seven
miles off when I saw her light first. Upon a sudden
meeting I should have ported the helm, but as she
was so far off I never thought of her going near us.
The Erin did not appear to come round gradually,
but her broadside appeared as if by magic. I
think everything was done on board the Erin that pos-
sibly could have been done under such circumstances,
and she was kept near the wreck as long as it was
prudent to do so. Captain Trouson spoke to me on
the subject, and spoke of running her ashore. We
were afraid she 'would not surviee. I have been
through the Straittthree or, f9n
oeiT •
relipe Latterly the
Pasha steered welglieineti tirfm.
(Signed) ROBERT DOUGLAS MILLAR.
Mr. Thomas Trouson sworn, states—l am captain
of the Peninsular and Oriental Company's steamer
Erin. We passed the Water Islands about nine
o'clock P.M., on the 21st of July, within two miles
and a half or three miles ; we were going at the rate
of nine or nearly ten knots, with a flood tide in our
favour. About 45 minutes past ten o'clock I saw the
low land about Mount Muer for a minute—the officer
of the watch was on the paddle-box. He did not see
me come on deck. I then went into the cabin and
lay down, and came out again a little before seven
bells (half-past eleven). I then saw Mount Formosa
distinctly. It bore N.E. by E. We had been steer-
ing S.E. by E. from the Water Islands. I was walk-
ing the port side of the quarter-deck, and heard the
officer of the watch who was on the paddle-box, call
out " port." I looked over the port side of! the
quarter-deck to see why he did so, and saw a light.
Shortly after we saw a blue light burning, and
a steamer's paddle-box lights, both of them,
and also the mast-head light. I suspected it was the
Pasha, as we expected to meet her. The light then
bore about two points on our port bow. As we drew
near I saw her three lights, and I thought she wished
to speak us, and I sent word to stand by the engines.
It never occurred to me for a moment, meeting so
directly opposite, that she would put her helm to star-
board, as the rule is for steamers, when meeting,
always to put their helm to port. Steamers in the
Straits frequently do speak to each other. IVe still
neared each other, and, thinking we were approach-
ing too close I kept telling the man to port the helm.
I could not see the hull of the Pasha on account of
its being a dull night, until I thought the Pasha's
lights unusually close ; they were still all three in
sight. I then ordered the helm to be hard to port,
and assisted myself in putting the helm up, at the
same time calling out " Stop her." About this time
I heard some one on board the Pasha call out " star-
board," but whether meant for our vessel I could not
tell ; but it would have been too late—our helm was
already hard to port. I then ran, intending to go
forward, but before I could reach e paddle-box we
struck the Pasha. I saw the Pasha was gradually set-
tling down forwards, and I called out to Captain Mil-
lar to order every one forward as fast as possible, at
the same time telling the engineers not to move the
engines, knowing that the wheels would be used as
a means of getting on board. I called out at the
same time to open the paddle-box doors, and for men
forward to throw rope. ends over the bows, or what-
ever else they could get hold of. I also ordered the
boats to be lowered. The reason of my telling the
engineers not to touch the engines, was because I
thought people might be climbing up by them. As
soon as the Pasha sank 1 went aft. All five boats
were down, and pulling in all directions. . After a
short time the boats returned, bringing in some people
whom they had picked up. They went away again,
and they were pulling about for upwards of an hour;
and it was not until that I found the fore hold was
filling that I recalled them. We tben hoisted them
up and cleared away the wreck of the Pasha's masts,
&c., and our own rigging, and got a sail under our bow.
While this was being done, an officer and several men
were making everything ready for leaving the ship in
boats, in case she should sink, as also constructing a
raft on the forecastle. At that time the fore hold was
full of water, and our only chance of safety depended
on the holding of the bulkheads of the engine-room.
Whilst this was going on the Pasha's crew were
mustered to see who was missing; it was at first
said to be 12 only, but afterwards it was found
16 was the number missing. About this time Capt.
Millar called his officers together, and a consultation
was held as to what had better be done. We deter-
mined to run close in shore, and if possible into Ma-
lacca, which was only 40 miles distant. Immediately
the engines were set going and the pumps going, it
was found that we gained much on the leak, and after
running half an hour towards Malacca, finding that
we gained so much on the leak, a consultation was
again held with Captain Millar and his officers, on the
propriety of turning towards Singapore, and we de-
termined to do 80. In about two or three hours after
we had borne up to Singapore, we had pumped nearly
all the water out of the hold, which I attributed to
the pressure of the water against the sail under the
bows preventing its running into the hold. I was
pretty confident of my position at the time of the col-
lision, having Passed through the Straits so many
times, and that during the night. I considered my-
self seven or eight miles from the shore. The appear-
ance of the land is very familiar to me. I never had
the least conception of the danger of a collision till it
took place.

A.VAL INTELLIGENCE.
Commander P. A Camp 18.16) to command
AI:POINTAIbESIT(S.
Lieutenants—11,
the Rosamond stea 1 -
tn-s oop.
M`Donald (1851), toW
Taylor (1850), to the Rosamond ; J. W. M.
Robert Deane, and L..tchCe:
ImiEb.xecsreolmlleBenn4t,6e)tg,,ua
is
:d ; Ger
ry on. dus
gunnery-ship;
mr epey.;
racy to the Excellent.
Master—George It Blakey
0549), to the Rosa-
mond.
m ond.
Paymaster—H. S. Collins ( 1848), to the Rosa-
Clerk—G. D. Gordon (1847). to the Rosamond.
Masters' Assistant— W. L. Baker, to the c
mond.Sa•
Clerk's Assistant—Frederick Ives, to
mond.
Gunner—R. P. Storey, to the Rosamond.
Boatswain—Daniel Birch, to the Rosamond.
Carpenter—Henry Palmer, to the Rosamond.
THE Pectric.—Letters have been received from
Valparaiso to the 25th of August. The Thetis, SS,
Captain A. L. Kuper; Amphitrite, 24 Capt. Charles
Frederick ; Gorgon, 6, steam-sloop, Commander
Paynter, and Nereus, hi receiving-s
--p, were then i n
port. The admiral was daily expected in the Portland,
Capt. Chads, and would, it was supposed, bring with
him the Driver steamer, Commander Johnson ;
Daphne, 18, Capt. E. G. Fanshawe, and Swift, 6,
Commander W. C. Aldham. The Dzedalus, 20, Capt.
Wellesley, was still absent. The Champion, 14,
Commander Hayes, was hourly expected, with a
large freight for England, The Thetis bad a most
splendid voyage from Monte Video to Valparaiso,
rounding Cape Horn with all sails set. The Gorgon
waited the return of the admiral, to leave the station
for England, orders for which, it was anticipated,
were received by the last mail.
The iron steam-transport Birkenhead, Master
Commander Salmond, was undocked yesterday,
having been partially touched up with Mr. Hay's
composition. She has had eight months' service since
she was last paid over with it, and all that she required
was to be touched up where the composition had
been rubbed off about the light water line, where
some few clusters of barnacles had accumulated.
Under the bilge she was hard and smooth, and we
cannot speak in too high terms of her bottom in ge-
neral. She was payed over in January last, when she
took troops to Halifax and to Quebec at a time of the
year when she encountered sufficient field ice to knock
oft' some of her paddle floats. She afterwards con-
veyed troops to the Cape, where she encountered
some very heavy weather, but behaved exceedingly
well, and it is quite pleasing to hear that her crew
speak of her as a first-rum sea boat, and as to
speed, nothing can touch her. When this vessel was
first commissioned as a steam-sloop she was thought
to be a dangerous vessel, and was placed on one side,
fortunately Capt. Stevens, of the steam department
at Portsmouth, made several short trips to Lisbon, to
Cork, &c., and he reported so very favourably of her
speed and good qualities, that she was immediately
brought into use, and is now one of our best steam-
transports. She was taken alongside the coal depot
yesterday, and when complete will go alongside the
yard jetty, where she will he in the hands of the en-
gineers of the yard till the alst instant, when she will
be again ready to conveytr9op=.
Medea, steam-sloop, will be undockcd on the 10th
of November, when the Simoom wi:l be taken in in
her place.
Stromboli, stestn•sloop, was taken into the steam
basin yesterday.
Porcupine, steamer, was taken into dock yesterday
at Portsmouth.

Ranger, 6, Commander Miller, was paid off at
Devonport on Saturday. The officers dined together
at Morshead's Royal hotel, where they spent the
evening very comfortably.
Rochester, lighter, Sudwicks, master, sailed from
Devonport, with stores, from Portsmouth, on Sa-
tureay.
PLYMOUTH, OCT. 25.—The Crane, 6, Commander
M'Donnell, was commissioned on Wednesday, and is
to have a complement of 76 officers and men. She
was brought to the jetty to-day, and is to be ready
for the coast of Africa on the 10th of November.
The Desperate screw-steamer, in charge of Mr.
Brown, Second Master Attendant, is ordered to cruise
in the Channel.

The main and mizenmasts of the steam block-iship
Sanspareil are to be fitted with galvanized iron rig-
ging.
The Spartan frigate and Ferret brig are ordered to
be brought forward for commission.
The Manceuvrer lighter came in yesterday from
Woolwich.

The Lucifer steam-vessel, Lieutenant-Commander
George M. Jackson, is ordered to be paid off at this
port on Thursday next.
WOOLWICH, OCT. 27.—T11E ARCTIC COMMITTEE.
—The members of this committee held a sitting at
the Admiralty to-day, to examine the reports of Cap-
tain Austin and Captai❑ Penny, and also to obtain
answers to questions which may be put to them, and
to the officers who accompanied them in the recent
searching expeditions, as to the best plans to be
adopted in the future expeditions which were decided
upon before the committee was appointed.

SEABORNE MAILS.
[N signifies that the mails are sent front the General Post-,:lice
by the night—and M by the morning—olispatch.]

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whGeneerharradoget.oupatiene Fproortmwdii.h—a-t-----Wlien
PLACES,
London. patched. due.
America (by Brit. pkt.)NlOct. 31 .• .. Liverpool • • ,INov. 4
America (by U.S. pkt.) N Oct. 23 .. • • Liverpool .. 'Nev. 1
America (by U.S. pkt.) hi Nov. 5 . • .. Southampt.
Africa (West coast).. N 14th of the month Plyreorath Nov. 3
Alexandria* —— . N 19th & 30th of mo. Dover • . ,Oct. 28
Belgium • • • • • • N Daily .. .• .•
Dover • • Daily
Brazil .. . • .. Mi9th of the month . Southamt. Nov. 16
Buenos Ayres 11
.. 9th of the month South p
California(viaCharres)Ml2d & 17th of month ' ampt. Nov. 16
Southam pt. Nov. i
Cape of Good Hope Nil4th of month Plymouth.. Nov. 3
Constantinople* .. • • Nrlth 17th 27th of mo :Dover .. Oct. 30
Central America •• Ml2d & 17th of mon. ISonthampt. Nov. 5
Channel Isles • • • . N:Mon., Wed., & Fri.,Southampt. Ti. na. Sit
Chili .. .. . Mil7th of the month :Southampt. Nov. 20
France .. ••M & N Twice daily .. „;Dover .. Twicedaily
Greece* •• .• • • N 7th 17th27th of mo !Dover .. Oct. 30
t.
Ilarnburgh .. •. N Tuesday & Friday (London • • Tie 5•28,1,..
Holland ~ • • .. hi Wednes. & Satur.lLondon •• M
Honduras .. . Nil7th of the month:Southanint• _l4"-e: rally
Ireland .. •• M & NlTwice daily .. ;Holyhead •••,""
Indic via Southamp.) M 20th of the month'SeuthanaP.t.
Nov.! 2
India( (via Marseilles) N Bth&24th efmonth,Dover
Mediterranean (via ,
: uthampt. ;Nov. 23
Southampton) M 20th of tho month ,So
Mediterranean (via Nov. 23
• . .. N Bth& 24th
ofm .. 'Nov. 2
onth Dour ;Nov.Marseilles)
;southampt. ;N 6
Mexico .. .. .. M2d of the month..onth
southaittet.lsol. 16
Madeira
Malta*
/ I & 30th of month
IDover Nov.
: :
•••• • • Mr
79tthh,o17ftthh,e19nith,27011 Dover ;Oct. 23
Papal States* .. • •
Mi7th 17th 27th of me; Southampt. lIN ov. 6
:.Insalar• • • • "17th of the month B,orithatiapt. :Nov. 20
Naples*
.. M ooffin4Dover ..: 1N,0v.. 2
Tuscany - • • • • :. m:;l7th of the month Southltnipt.lNov. 20
Peru *_,_„' ..
.... ...
'ivllislsstlhthsssthtthh222sssl.hithhof mo Dover • • tiov. 2
WestannlndieseBf (exceptf manNtelltd of the month .. SOnthampt. ,Nov. 8
thauso co' a/Aries thus Marked (*) are conveyed by
Nassau)
FrenchWicesa u: eon am.diacNkal;l'Ats .—Mails to and from California, via the United State
p v a
are now despatched and due by every Amer,.ir, „_,...

ue by every Ameri
and from Californi

La, via the United State
lean packet

ACCIDENT IN THE SURREY CANAL.-01:1 Saturday
night, about nine o'clock, a distressing case of drowning
took place in the Surrey Canal, near Brick-bridge, P, ek•
ham. About the hour above named, Mr. W. R. Blaksly,
of Peckham, who had been for many years engaged es tra-
veller to the house of John Reny, Sons, and Co., Mark-
lane, while on his way home, walked into the Surrey Canal,
which at that place is in a dangerous and unprotected state.
The unfortunate gentleman called out for assistance, and
was heard by Mr. George Munday, a baker, in Coburg-
road, who gave an instaut alarm. The drags were pro.
cured without delay, and the body taken on shore in about
eight minutes. It was carried to the Surrey al Tavern
means
close by, and Mr. Leonard, a surgeon in Surrey-place, Old
bent road, was promptly in attendance. Everythat
tore
medical skill could suggest were resorted to r
aninis-
tion, but without effect.
at the fac-
tory boiler of a three
at Woolwich,
BURSTING OF A BOILER.--
tory horse-powerofthe st
Watermen'seam-eg i
sn
tee,
-ac out the bottom part of a
burst yesterday morning,. throwing
in -bleb it was at work for boring
window in the building y,
considerable damage at the same time,
and turning, and did
the boy so severely, that it was
Steam-dp byk etthCoee workmenmpan y
scalding two men and a
bareb,
him taken to an hospital ui
consideredondon. advisable to