The Sun.
London, England, 1802-01-13 00:00:00

LONDON, JANUARY 13, 1802.

-Ws this day devote the greatest part of our Paper
to the detail of the Proceedings of the Court-Mar-
tial held at Portsmouth on the Mutineers of the
Terneraire, which ended yesterday, by 'sentencing to
Deati Thirteen out of the Fourteen .who were tried.
Against the fourteenth, the evidence was such as
to warrant a lesser punishment being awarded him,
and be was sentenced to be flogged. The whole
of the Proceedings will be found in our subsequent
Columns, except the. Evidence for the. Prisoners,
whiztt want of room compels us to defer till to-
morrow.

We have to congratulate the Country on the re-
sult of this Trial, as it clearly appears that the
Mutiny was of a very partial nature, and had not
gained that alarming height which was at one time
apprehended.
We trust the awful examples which are about to
be made, will have their proper effe.a on the minds
of the whole British Navy; and convince them that
all attempts at insubordination and mutiny ,must
ever lead to certain and condign punishment.

A most mischievous and abominable Paragraph
having appeared in some of the Papers of yesterday,
stating that a Petition had been sent to Hts MA_
lESTY, signed by all the Seamen of the Fleet, re-
questing Pardon to those who had been concerned
in the Mutiny at Bantry Bay, we are enabled from
authority, to declare, that it is wholly untrue. A
grosser libel on our brave Starner), who are as much
shocked and incensed at what has passed, as any
of their Countrymen, was never before published.

Three Hamburgh Mails -due.

THEIR MAJESTIES and the PRINCESSES remove
tuffs day from Windsor to Buckingh:a:n_.l.l.ozv:e, where
the ROYAL FAMILY will reside till after the cele-
bration of the Queen's Birth-day.

Earl Sr. VINCENT has returned to his official
duties. The Country will feel tho benefit of this
circumstance at a crisis important, perhaps; to the
future discipline and well.being of the British
Navy. •
Lord Wit rrw ORTH is expeaed to return to town
on Friday next.
GEORGE Rosr, Esq.• and CII4ELES LO,NC, 'Esq.
late Secretaries to the Treasury, were this day, we
understand, appointed to the honourable situation
of Privy Councillors. ,

The' DUKE of YORK has ordered a poundlof meat
and a pot of beer to each of the Privateajnst,re-
turned from _Egypt, and they are all to haVe a
month's furlough to see their friends.
Lord and Lady CAST L ERE A.GH hOe'liden'lpas6tig
the•• Christmas Holidays with the Mar'ciiiii of !RE lir-
PORD, in Warwickshire._

Lord COWPER sold his Stud at Tattersall's on
Monday, at very high prices.
The LORD MAYoR yesterday ordered that no
alteration should take place in the price of Bread
this week.

The complicated business of Drury-lane Theatre,
we are happy io learn, has at length been adjusted
by compromise amongst the parties, we believe, to
the satisfation of all. This will, no doubt, be
officially notified to the LORD CHANCELLOR next
week.

Mr. RICHAB.DSON, we learn, has lately pur-
chased a Fourth Share of Drury-lane Theatre.
The National Institute of France, we should_
conceive, to he composed of natives of a part of our
own .:United Kingdonii from their elation of a
Musician to the Class iifliterat#re.

Mr. COLLINS, son of the Manager of the
Southampton Company, is shortly to appear at
Drury-lane Theatre, in the charader of Scrub. He
is allowed to possess a considerable fund of genuine
comic humour. •

PLYMOUTH) JAN. 11. Arrived the Eliza,
MINN, from St. ,Thomas's. Spoke the Eliza,
IVI'KENNy, of Liverpool,, bound to,iVlartinique, in
lat. 4+, N. long. 3o; and the Hercules, Lewis, of
London, for Tobago, in lit, 49. 113.. N. long. 7.
3o..West.

•
PORTSMOUTH, JAN. tz.--,-Arrived the ship
DulccAN 'FOR B Es master, from London for Malta;
and Coromandel, ST I ;IL r so, from London for Nc
South Wales. —Sailed the Atherican tirigT•luno,
LAW R. g NC E master, for Havre-de:grace;-•and'Oreeen,
MEGGI6OI.I3 lately arrived from Surinam, for Lon-
don. .

SgEtm.TEss, jAN: 12.4=Tilis. day arrived., His
Majesty's Ship •Conpieror,. a remarkable fine
of 74 guns, from HarwiCh; quire new. She is not
yet cominissioried 3 Captain LVNIsp in L.ap-point.
ed to command her : she was, attended up by the
ithlikey, Minx, Jackal, and Mat-iner Guff b igs
AI a rri ' eti the /7:stet/or Sloof of Wir_from Vat:.
mouth': • ,

DIATOR, IN PORTSMOUTH HARBOUR.
WEDNESDAY, JAN. 6, 182.

FIRST DAY.

Between nine and ten o'clock in the morning the
following Officers were assembled 'as MemberS of
the Court :

Vice-Admiral Sir At: DREW
Vice-Admiral VoL E,
Rear-Adm. COLLINGWOOD,
Captain BERTIF,
Captain GRINDALL,
Captain Sir E. NAGLE,
Captain Wi Lt.s,

MITCHELL, President; .
Rear-Admiral HOLLOWAY,
Rear-Admiral CAMPBELL,
Captain Jos ES;
Captain Ossoax,
Captain Got:

The following Seamen were then brought in and
put on their. trial:--John Mayfield, late Captain of
the Forecastle ; James Ward, belonging to. ditto
;antes Chesterman;. ditto; john Tilzgeraid, cap-
tain of the Foretop; Thomas- Cross, belonging to
ditto ; James Luckier, belonging to the-Main-top ;;
John ‘Ciimmiss, ditto ; Christopher- White, ditto;
William hillier, belonging to the Foretop;. James.
Collins, the Ship's Butcher;- jotn Daly; Joseph
Roctvland,a Carpenter; Thomas Jones, and William
Cooke.

The Prisoners were charged with Mittiny, . with
holding mutinous and seditious words, with taking
an aaive part in certain mutinous and sedi:ious
Assemblies, and with having heard mutinous and
treasonable words, and not revealing the same, as
they ought to have done, to, their Commanding
Officer.

Captain E.7les, of the Teineraire, was the Prose-
cutor. The customary correspondence between him
and the Admiral, together with 'the order from the
Lords of the Admiralty for holding title Court, be.:
ing read, Captain Eyles'S 'narrative of the Mutiny
was given in and read as-evidence. • •
John Arfrcj, a seaman belonging to the Teme-
raire, was 'the first witness. In answer to a ques-
tion from the Court, he said he was a Roman Cabo-
lie, and therefore a particular kind of oath, differcni
from that taken lw Protestants, was adminiitered to
him. He gave the following account of the Mutiny
" I know the Prisoners. • On the Ist of December,
in the larboard bay, in the morning, I saw- 19 or 20
people; they were drinking either grog or wine;
they swore to be true to each other. When they.
were going to begin they said—' Drink to us like'
British heroes, there is no fear, we will go throUgh
the business ; shake hands like brothers, stick to
each other, there is no fear if there are no informers.'
pre,se,:t, Mayfield, W.; rd,,Lockier,
Rowland, Wm. Cooke, and Chesterman. I did
not see Al:en ; Taylor was there, Thomai Jones
was there ; I did not see Cross nor White : John
Daly
.was not present. On Saturday morning,
the sth, at nine o'clock, Fitzgerald, Collins,
Chesterman and Cooke asked the ship's company"
if they were willing to come aft, to tell their Of.
ficers, now the war was over, that they did not_
wish to go out of the'land. They went aft, half-
way' the .gangway, and: made a stop--, come and
speak to your Officer like men, now is the time,'
and they went aft. directly: it was then-about
eleven o'clock. -They spoke ro Lieutenants Douglas.
and Gore: Mr. D. Asked them what they wanted:
They said- they were -informed they- were going out
of the land, and did not-wish to go. -The Admiral
came on deck'and asked the. same question. They
answered, that they wanted to. know: where they
were going, and that ;They ; would: not heave the
anchor-to go out of the land. The Admiral de,
sired them to go down and be quiet; that
.the.
Temeraire had an excellent, charadcr, and he
should be very sorry to report mutiny in the ship.
Thcrjr all then went down, to .the lower'deck. Fitz-
gerald, Cooke, and Ward said, nobody should
drink more than their allowance, and in case any
should get drunk, they Would cob them ; and they.
hoped every man would stare true to each other.—
The word was paSsed fore and aft the same evening,
that the 'first man who was. caught _lying on the yard
to bend the sails, would be punished by themselves.
I heard Fitzgerald, fur one, saying this. Their in.
tendon was not to kill or hurt any Officer in the
Ship, incase they did not draw their arms against
them : but if they (the Officers).did fire, or draw
their' arms, they 'would ,spew no mercy. . They
(the Officers) Could not kill any more than so or
6o of the Foremast Men : this was said by .Fitz.
gerald to me and the first man who throed
treacherous,, and would not obey the 'same as the
others; should be knocked down dead diredly. A
great many
,more besides myself heard this con.
versation. The • same tithe I heard Fitzgerald
and Jack. Allen say, " There is no fear, I believe,
but . they will go through with their proceedings,
but we will not go . out of the land." ,Allen. then
said, " there was no fear, for the Man of War's
Men, as 'they would. make them do what 'they
liked :" (hey then parted. On the 6th of De-
cember, about one o'clock, as the men were at
dinner, I saw Mr. Lawrence, the' Master's Mate,
going round•the deck. After he came, 'Fitzgetald,
Chesterman, Allen, Lockiet, and Taylor, said,
" nosy is your time, lower the ports down '; douse
tile' ports :" they were all -dowp but one, which
Allen lowered down:•hirnself: Another part was
not quite down--I heard- Ward' say, that port
is npt down yet:" Cummings' said,• " bar the
ports:" Cooke,`Fitegerald;. Taylor, and Chester-
: man,' and some others, ordered all the :scuttles to
be hauled in. Cummins desired a man to look
out of the- hawse. hole, to . see if any boat was
coming round, and cheered ar• the same time.--.•
Lieutenant Douglas Came and asked what noise
that was ; Winn they began to cheer. again : lie

desired them to tbnie aft on the quarter-deck; ant-- --
,let the Admiral know what they wanted; and
he could grant it he would. They all began to
cry,---No, no; and cheered. Jones and Hillier
said, " No, no, send the Master ofthe Ship down;
we want to speak to 'him e. nobody but he thall
come down." At the same time Lieut. liouglatt
had his foot on the fore-ladder, When. Hillier and .
another tried to unship the ladder .1,- and Sirtm'ion§
(not one of the Prisoners) went and saidi be had •
like to break the Lieutenant's- neck down: Jones
and,Cooke said, ".break his neck, and kill'
A few minutes after the Queers came down, and
tried to keep the ,people quiet.. Cooper, Luckier,
Fitzgerald, Collins, Chesterman; Curntnins; Jones,
Hillier and Allen, cried out, " shoot, 'shoot !"
Taylor stood: looking through the •haWse.;hole td •
see if any thing was coming. Christian Whiie
was- eery busy to dry. to unship the, main ladder,
but could not. 'f The/ then went up- E
The vat-
ter.deck,.,,wben t)le. Adrhaal asked the Ship'S -
CoMpiny what, they, wanted, and why•they made
so mUch noise and cOnfirsion Jones -said, they
wanted to.know where they were-going. The Ad
asked if they had ever
.before been made td
knOw. where t4ey were going ? Jones said, no; The
Adrrilral then said, they had better be • qtiiet, not,
to he *treperous, as they would gain nothing..l47
it i be said be.::.did not know himself Whdre lid
was going ; he was 'ordered to sea on a cruise, and. •
must obey his orders ; that it was.enongh 'when
he called. all. hands, and then he hoped tifey 'would
go with good: ;:will. Amy cried, 'ii"Noino we ,
will not gQ, fropithe hmd, we will gO to -England.".
Fitzgerald and Jones joined in. this cry: On Sun:
day morning, at ten, I- espied a- feW eannan-car.
tridges ofpowder in .:the locker.. nippers., and -4
Match Jighted• on the larboard side; in
washing-tub, covered with two siurts: John Daly ,
when I was looking
;over the kicker, asked me. 7
what I wanted.in the manger I asked why heft'
wanted to know ? I told him I wanted to see the .
manger, in_ cime it shOuld be Wanted to helve up.
desired me to be gone; and if I did not, he
would make me ;. and that a .man ~kras instantly
sentry at the., manger-dnur, '`tO pic,verit any one
from
„going ,in, except the Yeoman of 'the LOcker::
nipper. The Centinel,was put there by the party:
On Monday, the 7ih, James --W.tid 'Ordered 'me'
not to bring My hammock up until piped up, and
that every man'should ,drink his allotirance among
themselves until it was all. settled a
_arid that they
should do their work better, if possible that no titan -
should be treadle:xolls to their King or Cotintry,
that the war was over, and they would not go out of
the land e that the first,, man who was found drunk
should _ punished among theitselves: Ward "
passerthese aaers round to -every mars- nirtn.
"There was a great quantity or people consulting to-
gether, and when the officers used to corne round;
every man used. to go- to, hi- birth, and out
again when they, were gone ; but they
_spoke so
low, that I could not hear what ,they said.—
. These consitiltations were
_held in: Fitzgerald and
Chestertnan's birth. . tockier said he would be
d—=-d if he would ship the capstan. bar to go oat of
the land, and he„hoped every body . was of his
mind. " Mayfield,' said, he -had been eight or. nine
yearS in 'the..service,
.and would like to'go and see
his friends now the war wasour. EVery 'one• wad
told by Chestertnan, if: they 6tehed the ham.
mocks up before, they were piped,, they winikl be
knocked dOwn the hatchways With their ham_
mocks. On Tuesdly,. the Bth, . silence was kept:
fore and ail, and ersons came round to know if
the other ships were' in the same mind Wa.the'.fiel,
rneraire. _Fitzgerald and Chesterman said, _the*
Formidable, Majestic,„ and, Vengeancen Were in the,
same mind ; that, there was fear; the. fleet. -
would not fire at Ate ship, they would find sup-
plies and reintOrcements. in time 'three other ships
this they, talked of in their own births,before theii
messrpates,. about
.six in number.. Fitzgerald wit!
Inc, I had no, occasion
,to be afraid to "speak, as
nobody in the birth would inform .of me, they .. be.
ing all of the same Mind. On Wednesday 'even.
in, when the hammocks came down, James Ward
went down on the lower deck, and desired me.not
to bring my hammock up next mornings time Word.
was passed on he larboard side by ward and others;
Cooke, passed the word on the starboard side fore
and aft.: that they wanted to barricade the lower
deck hatchway in their own defence. In twenty
minutes after, Ward countermanded this Order, anti
bid the hammocks to be brought Up as 'm.o. On
the same.night, 'Faylor wrote of Fetter under the.
bowsprit.. Lieutenant Farrar cattle down close by.
the bowsprit, and Taylor ran over the starboard
side between two hartimocks, until the Officer was
gone, .and when gone he came
_back. They had
different pass.7wods while the letters was writing
first of all they said, " catch the.rat—take hold of
the rat ;" it was a notice of an Officer's: Corning.:
Another- watch-word was, "gii.te me .a chew of
tobacco,'
.another Was. "'I want adrink of 'W3•
ter." They had another,pass;word. :I saw CrosS.,
Taylor, Cooke, Luckier, Ward,
pa
d,jczessi used lo telli:Fictzgerald,
Collins, Chestertnan, and many
Taylor what, to put in the letter,: When it Was
wrote, Ward went
,fore and aft,, and, bid. the men
not to mind the officers, and be careful to bring
up and down t!vir hammocks as On ;11c
next morning nineteen or twenty were loAin
the paper in Chestetinan's birth. I could not toll
what was in the paper: I heard I(itzgerald and
Chesterman say, in case the Temeraire should be
in alarm, they would. fire a sky-rocket, and make
a signal to the oilier ships, that were going out to
get their *assistance: Chesterman asked' nte if I •
was willing to goout,of the land I told him, I
should not like to go,. but if I was forced, or a:led.
gg. At. the same Lung, I Saida the peoplo

r‘f the Vengeance would 46 what their Cati+tain
liked. Fitzgerald said, never mind what they did,
as we have begun it, we shall go through it ; and
in case the Officers should draw their aims against
us, we will skew no mercy : they could not kill
more than fifty or sixty people at most, and, they
could find fifty or sixty men to take possession of the
magazines of powder. John Allen said that night
to Stephenson, "By G—d there will be bloodshed
before the week is at on end." Stephenson, re-
plied, It would be a bad job, somebody might- pay
for it. 7 bey were drinking at the time. Allen,
said, '' God give me heart' an strength, there is no
fear ; we will go through with if,. so that there are
no informers." Philip Flandcock, who was in his
hammock, cried, Shame' at us for making use of
such expressions while the people were awake
The boatswain's mate having' been drunk he was
cabbed, he received a dozen and a half from' Ches-
terman, with a pea-squeezer ; about five in the
evening, I went up upon deck, and as I was going -
towards the forecastle, I heard a great.noise upon
deck beiween the two forernost guns, and• T came
back and saw' Patrick-Cannan going to be cribbed
for wrangling and making a disturbance among the
ship'S company ; he Balled his- tnessmate George
Dixon, "a thief ; Collins, the butcher, asked him,
ilf he could prove George Dixon a thief ?' he said,
si no ;' ' well,' says he, it you breed a disturb-
gon shall be enlibed ;* George Dixon drew
his knife to Patrick Canaan, who gave him a slap
in the face ; Lieutenant Bogden came dowrl, and
abed, what noise it was "--they told him, it
was only a man going to he cobbed. Lieut. Bog-
den told them they should punish. nobody with their
Own hands, but send them aft to be Finished ; Col-
lins said, ' it was only a cobbing. Immetii-
ately,Lieut. Bogdert was shoved in the crowd ;
saw a man strike him ; I cannot tell who it was.
An alarm came diredly afterwards, anti George
Dixon came down the fore-ladder froM the main_
deck, and sung but, bear a hand up, you
here is a man in irons :'—the people went up, and
made a rush to go aft to take possession of the arms
and disarm the sentries, and go noon the forecastle,
and kill all the Officers ; they said they would soon
Clear those gentlenien quality off the forecastle, and
send them. away, arid began cheering all the way as
they went. They stopt and did not go aft when they.
found the Marines were under arms; they went to
the'forecastle and gained. the others. Fitzgerald
Wanted them to go aft and take the arms ; the Cap-
tain immediately after that came on the forecastle,
and asked what* they all wanted, to make so much
noise at that time of night ; they said, they wanted
The Prisoner to be delivered up. One Gillespie,
James Riley, and many others, whom I could not ob,
serve, said, lie should not be punished :' the Captain
said, lie should, he had heen,drunk'on duty, and
insolent to hia.superior officeri.' George Dixon was
one whose voice-I could pick our among alt of them.
Captain Eyles was walking fore and aft, having
hardly room ; had been shored among them in the
crowd. I could not see any body in the front that
I could take notice ofi_but Collins, Daly, Fitz,
gerald, Cooke, and many more shoved the Captain,
when they picked out the principal ringleaders. On
the Bth, Tuesday, I forgot 'to state, that John Allen
,ctt ra :McEvoy, s if he thol3slls they Sll9old find
plenty of marines to join them ?—it was their Own
good as well as theirs :' M'Evoy said,- he could
answer for twenty or twenty-four that would join
therm.' He said, 'Captain Valle-a: of the marines,
might order the marines to fire; there might be afe w
tulpins who wouldire, hut the rest would *fire over
their heads, and Then throw their arms down, and
Come and join them ; perhaps with their arms,
if it was possible to get them, if not the bayonet
would do.' M'Evoy was frequently among a few
of the ringleaders talking what way they should.
ael. John Fitzgerald, I saw very often along with
him, but I could not' hear what he said.n.
Thursday in the forenoon the Admiral called all

hands on the quarter deck concerning the letter,
that, was sent to him reSpCeting the ship's compny,
that they were willing to fight for Their King and
Country, but not to go out of the land, that the
most part of them had been five, seven, or- eight
years in the Service, and no the War was over
they wished to go home. Admiral Campbell de-
sired to know if the Marines were in the same
mind with the Sailors, and to send two of them to
speak if they were, and the Officers should not
take notice of thbse men, and he desired Captain
Valleck to speak. John Allen, as soon as the peo-
.

pie came down from the quarter.deck underneath the
forecastle, desired M'Evoy to go aft and= tell the
Serjeants of Marines to appoint two men to tell the
Captain and the Admiral, if the Marines were in
the same mind. A man of the name of IVPEash

went, but I do not know what he said. May-
field was the first man picked our." On Thursday,
between five and six ; Fitzgerald was the next.—
Cooke said, g 4-n your eyes, you b--, why
don't you speak your minds ; don't be afraid ;'
he then- fell back to the ranks for fear of being pick
ed out. Admiral Campbell came to/he Marines to
try to make 0-win quiet. A few sung out,,.' stand
Your ground you. Jones said this, and
said, if every man' Was of my mind, no prisoner
should go oat-of/he Ship, except they punished all.'
On that day all the prisoners were picked our ex-
cept Daly and:Hillier. I heard Dixon and Comayne
say, and many mare with them, near one hundred
and 'fifty, they would take knives and.stab the Ma-
rines when they Were asleep in, their haMthocks.—
If every man. was of theii mind them poor. fellows
should not go out of the Ship ; it was not suing
like shipmates; but d—d b7--y rascals to let these
poor men go. I. was present ; Miles the Captain of
the Waste f Shackleday, Harris, Whittaker aptt Wil-
liams, all belonging to the sau guess. Peorge
Comayne was close by the forebits, qeorge Dixon
said:a me he did not think I was- fit to be among
the True Brit Ons ; he thought I would `teport
thern, and 'begged me to go. -I would not, and
ie kndcked me down mite. On the r ith day,
about ten O'clock, he told me I should not' go
home ; he would make me tick before the week
was Outs I told him I did not mind it. He and
George Comayne sung out as loud as they could,
that in case they could not destroy • the Marines,
they- would kill the Officers out of -revenge; thtit
their conitades were gone out ' of the Ship, and if
that would not do they would blow the ship up.—

Thomas SyMenonds, a foretop man, was there at-th,
same dine, and said ro me, he was sorry he Ilid
not killed the Officers on Sunday ; he had it in his
power-at the time, as he had a crow bar his
hantt. George Dixon gave me a kic4,-and I went-
away and never went there again." • „
Examined by Captain Eyles, the Prosecutor.'
Q. Did you ever hear any of the. ViisonT call
themselves delegates Yes, on Thursday night,
Fitzgerald, Collins, tiiidatesterinab. -
Q. Relate the words Fitzgerald made use of
when he called himself a delegate They were
'speaking to. all the men in he forecastle ; they
:all three said, ‘.‘ don't you know we are delegates of
the ship for your own benefit 1" Some answered,
yes'—this was On the loth in the af,ternbon, 'When
Carman was going to be cabbed.
Q.. Did they not say they should give all
orders for punisimient They said they should
punish themselves.
Q. Did they say.the Officers- should have nothing
to do with it r—A. Yes, Chesterman.said to Mr.
Forfar, the Lientenalit; ‘e no than should le
nished aft, they would punish them themselves." .
Q. When Christopher White was attempting to
unship the ladders, did you hear .him call. out
" Fitz, Fiti, it will be 'proper to send a ba—r
after the crow bar."—,A. Yes, I heard him say so,
and there was do fear but he would, go- through it.
Q. Did you hear William' Hillier, •the prisoner,
cry out on Suhd'ay the 6th, with his lends up to
;, his mouth, lower down the ports ?"—A.
the starboard side. •

Q. Did you ever hear' the prisoner John May
field,. say 4 he would see hiinself_ damned hetiire,he.
would go out of the land ?'—A. I did, on the foie_
castle, smoking his pipe ; James• Ward Wa3 with
him.

ExaMined

Q. You have said in the beginning of your nar.
rative, that there were nineteen or twenty persons
assembled, who swore they would go through the
business ; did yOu either at that or any other
time, see them make use of a. book to bind them.,
seNei to be true to each' other.?—A.

Q. Do you kuow were the messmates of
James Ward ?=--A..Yes, Joseph Drinkall, Whitfield,
Mayfield, Ward, JobaCross, atid Lockyer.
Q. At the time: you went forward to the nipper,
lockers, and saw. the cartridges of powder you have
described, did you hear Daly. or any other' prisoner
at the bar.say they had brought that powder there to
&fend
,theMselves I heard Daly say to 'Bill
" we, have plenty of powder forward in
the nipper lockerS to cool the officers' temper; ,and,
if that would not do, they would rush aft and kill
all the officers." Hillier said, " that will do very
well"—to my hearing on the starboard side.
Examined by Admiral Afitehell,..thc.President.
Q. From the th to the r WI of December, in the
course of those days did you see in any of "the births,
either in the Middle or lower deck, ,any more of the
seamen or marines administering the. oath the pri„
soners before mentioned had taken in their own
or any other oath to stand by themselves_?--_,,
A. No, I did not.
Q. At the time Daly was looking out at the haw-
ser-hole to <,,e if boats were coming, did you
observe any. of the prisoners casting loose any or the
tackle 'of the fore Most guns ?—A. Fitzgerald told
them he would soon get two guns pointed aft,• for
the guns were loaded ready.
Q. Did you know the guns
,were loaded t—A.

Q. Did you know that all the Igwer deck guns
were loaded ?—A. Snowden said there wete many
of them lciaded.

Cycs...:examilzed by jaw Iticyfleld.
Q. At what time of the day did you see die sea.
men take the oath ?—A. In the morning, about nine
o'clock.
Crass.rxam;Ned by joreph Ward. '
Q. Where did
,you see me at the time
they were
taking the oath.—A. Abreast the fore_gun.

Cross-examined by. 34nzes Chesterthan.
Q. Can you recolleh. any person who was pre.
sent to certify 'you saw me take the oath, Or
handle the book ?

A. None but them I mentioned before.
Q. Do you recalled who first took the oath ?
A. Fitzgerald was the first man, Chesterman the
next. They swore to be true to each other.
Admiral Holloway.— The Court would advise you
not to ask such questions ; you only stamp the fad.
stronger against you than it was before.
Prisoner. Q. What part of the quarter-deck was
I in when you said, I sung out " AO, No i" when the
Admiral was giving orders ? A. On the starboard
side of the quarter-deck, close to the foremost gun.
InTront almost, there were not more than five or six
men before it.

Q. In what part of the forecastle was I, when
Admiral Campbell came Forward,- ,and spoke some
words on Thursday ?- A. He stood by Midships, and
came over to the larboard side ick.,the iknk, -where.
the. Captain was shoved. He was one of them.
Q. Can you point out any person at the-time that
you heard me express the words, " that I nomi-
nated myself as Delegate- fOr His Majesty's Ship the
Terneraire ?" A. It was, dark, but I knew his
voice ; there were 50 or '7O People... He was one
of them.

Admiral hfifchell. If there was any doubt of
establishing charges against you, you would critni_
nate yourselves. _ _

Prisoner. To the best of your knowledge, what
time of the evening was it ? A. A few minutes
aftei five, whorl Carman was caked.

Cross-examind John Fitzgerald.
Q. What time were the words spoken to you in
our birth, " that yOU need not be afraid ?" A. On
Wednesday and Thursday ; likewise before all his
mess-mates: James. Kelly was facing me ; I, was
between Fitzgerald and CheS/eTman.

Cross-e.ranthred.by Joseph kavdand.

Q. Do you recolleCt one any ciccasiori since you
have been.on board, my saying the word " Damn "
and such like, too commonly used ? A. I especially
heard you when you hove the capstan bar, and said
you would not go. oat of the lark:.
Thomas Jones asked no question.
.Cross-ekamined.by Thomas Cross.

Q. What day, and whai time of the day) did you

see me talk to any of the Prisoners in Fitzgerald's
birth ?.„ A. I saw him on Wednesday and Thursday
in Fitzgerald's bi'itlfillso V\rattirs fiTtrtifitt
often there, betweep the Ist ayd../.l*
• Q. You say; George Perrdit w 4 in the ,birth
When the letter 'was wrote i&Additral._Catrapbell,
where- was he sitting ? A. Sitting in his own
birth on a stool. Ido not know that he was there
-all- Om time. He was there. t ha.hegirming of writing-.
theletter.
„Q. ra s tiF there at the time Cross was ?A. I
heriii►s. I ant not r.,oiitive.
,Q._Wfiere was I sitting at the time ? A. He did
not sit at all: he was leaningover the table, speak-
ing to Taylor.
William Cook. No question. •
Cross-examined by Christopher White.
Q. Can you point out any man who saw me at the
lower-ladder Yes, Paul Rousseau; and many
`more. Sutherland was there, .

Cross-examined by Sohn Collins.
O. You said you.saw me and others inviting the
ship's company to ,go aft ; what part of .the.ship
Was I in ?—.A.; Oa the larboard side of the lower
deck. •

Q. 'When the hammocks were going up on. Tburs-
day, you said you heard me say, Damn you, you
don't know your own minds,' what time was it ?
A.' In the morning about nine o'clock, he was stand-
ing on the forcastle. ' •
Cross-examined b_y James Lorkyer.
Q. You say, it was .about nine o'clock in the fore-
noon you saw me, can you recoiled any other, per-
son who saw tit! ?—A. I cannot recolled-any other
than I have mentioned. . .

•
Cross-examined by Johns Cummins. ,
Q. , You say I called for shot,. whereabouts Was
I when I called for shot Nigh to your birth,
close to me ;. I moved -a hit from the place I was
standing on, _and he desired me to stand my ground,
and .sing out for shot,. as soon as the officers came
down.

Q. You said was putting words in the letter,
do you,know what they were ?=—A. I cannot, say,
because you did not speak loud
.enough to let any
one hear.

Cross-examined S 2 Wm.

Q. Ds, you chink it was possible for a man to pass,
through the4hip's company, forward,ior see through,
tl3efin'on :Sunde,:after -the ports were doWn
No,_ not very,lveil in sortie parts.
Q.
._Wliat side was 1 on when the ladder was tin-
shipped ?—A. ,He crossed over on. both. sides : he
was on the starboard side. .

O. Where was I when you heard me sing out for
shot ?—A. On the starboard side, to the best of my.
knowledge. .
Cross-examined by John Daly.
Q. Was any one by whe'n" I made use of those'
barbarous expressions you said I did?--A. Yes',
James Ward. He made use of as bad expressions.
He said lie would not heave. the capstan-bar to go
out of the land.

Q. What• time of the day was it ?--A. On Sun-
day the 6th, before ten-o'clock.
Qe Where was )ou standing when you saw Tne
look out through the hawser-hole ?—A. I was
abreast of it, and I spoke to Daly myself: I asked
him, if he saw any thing comipg. 1e gave me n9_
answer.

Q. Was, my bpdy,• or • head , or any part, - out of
the hawser-hole ?,—A. No part at all ; but he' was
lookht out to see whether any boats were coming.
The Court adjourned.

SECOND DAY, THURSDAY, JAN. 7.
James Ricliardson morn.

" I went down to tte lower deck for a sheet of
writing paper. On the starboard side I found Edw.
Taylor, and asked him to write a letter. He said,
' You had better wait till this, business is settled.'
I then asked him what it was-? I dared say it was
nothing concerning us.' He answered, Yes : it
Was concerning the whole ship'S eMtiliany.' He:then
toldme the ship was going to the West Indies ; an d
that,,all hands Were going on the quarter dec-k to tell'
the-Adiaiiral Iliey Would not go. I,then looked
round,akil saw James Chesterman and John Snow-
den discoursing together, and a number *listening to
them. I heard Chesterman ask Snowden if -he was
agreeable to go to speak to the Admiral. Snowden
said, he had no objeEtion, if he could get another
or two to speak
:with him ; 'that- was agreed to.
Chesterman said, Ali that we have to do is, to
let the people, in the middle-deck know it." Taylor
answered, Here is one who -belongs to the middle
deck will do.' Chesterman then touched me on the
shoulder, telling me all I have mentioned; and asked
me if I would go; and let the people of the middle
deck know of it. I then went up, and told my
Messmates, John. Clements and Joseph Wynn. They
began to laugh at me, and said there was nobody
there wanted to hear of it. Johnson was read-
ing a book ; I asked him 'what it was. I told
him the- particulars I licaid 'below, and
,asked
him if he chose 'to let the people know on the
middle deck ? He made no answer.--=—As I found
there was nothing to be done, and it was raining,
went down again. I went down ; and my mess_
mates told me it was all true. I asked- who told
them ? One of, them pointed to James Chesterman,
`-who was going round the deck. Some time after
I went on the poop, and swabbed it, and coming
down again, I saw a number Collened on the
forecastle, and calling others Out of the waste.
I went on the forecastle, and heard Chesterman and
Snowden talking together, saying, they wished they
could get the other man to go along with them. I
asked who he Was ? They refused to tell me, but
told me he waSon the poop. I guessed it was Bar-
ny Young. I told them they need not wait for
him, as it was- his Watch upon deck, and he would
not ciMie dowthe-people began shoving one ano-
ther aft on the' gangway, till they were stopt by
tl;e officer on the, watch at the quarter deck. The
Captain,. 'came out, and asked what they wanted
there ? Some of than wanted to know where the
ship was going to. The Admiral came out, and
Acid what was the matter ? The Captain told him
the ship's Company wanted to know where the ship
was going. The Admiral answered) to Hell, if
she is tyrderedi.aiad we must go with her.' I was
on the gangway. There was more conversation I
could not hear. The Admiral desired them to go

down and make them uiet;wllichiwa;
dwoantec,h awn da s t loteunt.w
\evri
heunp oln enetlp ottre oos quiet;
and staid till in
maies told me the word had been passed when hands
were turned up to bend sails, to go down to the
inner, my mess-
-lOwer deck. James Chesterman in the afternbon de:
sired me to see that every person and. my messmates
in the middle deck'drank their grog, and that any
:man- who...was: amok- would be._turned downion the
lower deck, and cobbed. On Sunday morning the
word was passed as before, when hands turned up to,
bend' Sails to-go down on, the lower.deek -as- before.
The hands were turned-op about eleven to bond the
sails,-whiehiwas done as usual. Aftergails were bent,. -1
went dowri-to dinner.. After I got my dinner 1,
went to the,lowerdetk, where I saw James Ches.:
iterman in his own birth. I asked hiM what they
:were going. to.do„ %Vhether to unmoor the ship or
'not ? He answered he did nut know. During the
time we were discoursing, .Edward Taylor came
down, -and asked what we were to do ? Chestet:l:
answered he did not know. He said we must soon
know, there is no' time to he-lost, as the. bands
would be turned up to unmoor as soon as they had -
got their di-nner. I then went to the midge deck
to my birth, where I, staid tilt 'my grog was served
out. As soon as I got my grog, a man came and
passed the' word for us to go down- below, wha
it was I do'not reeelleet. I Went down to the lower
deck, and; stood alongside James Ward. I asked-
him', what he was going to do ?. He answered he did
not:know yet, but he believed he was going to lower •
the ports down. The words were hardly spoken
when Will. Hillier was in the manger, and putting
his hand to, his mouth,• singing out with a- loud
voice, ' What do you say, lads, one :and all- fore
and aft-lower away ports?' He had no answer the
first time ; 'then. he repeated the .saJne 'words. over,
again; and the ports welt lowered accordingly, and
the all began Cheering, and asked where the •
'ship' was going.? Some of the ladders were unship.
ped,- but the Officers got down below; and sent all
the people on the quarter deck. When They were
on- the quarter decle,, the Admiral- asked, What all'
that- noise was below ?' A . great 'deal passed, but
I eolittrnorlieiie it. I went away. After that Ed-
warid Taylor
,told Me to go down to thelower deck.
I was going up to the head, where I Saw John Col'•g
lins, the prisoner; smoking a pipe on the forecastle;
I asked hirn what the people were falkingof below
He answered' he did riot know till six 'O'clock ;
told me I might -as well come -down then; and
should. know. Just as -we had erided,'‘ John-Ciro-
rains, -the prisoner,- came up and said, there
Franey on the foregratings as drunk as hell; and
quarrelling with every body that comes past.' Col-
lins knocked the .fire out of his pipe, and went be-
low with John Cummins ; I followed them, bug'
when we 'came there Franey was gone.
_Pin C 01..,
gins went up again, and I went to the lower decks:
and Saw Franey in hiS owiibirth. -I -went up -again'
under the forecastle,-: and Collins asked 'me if I nod.
seen any thing- of Franey since : I told him yes, be
was in his own birth. He asked me- if I thour.e! he'
was drunk ; I told him I thought he was ; had
seen him in the foregratings, as I came'it). ti,c first
time. I then went to my own birth, :aL 'raid till
six o'clock. I went to the lower kl > the 41V-
board side ; there I saw Edward Coy'
John Chesterinan, John Fit -:;.ge r:dd, jaalet
Ward, and James Lockyer. The IA ‘ ter were'
in their own birth ; they were all sac,:., d'Oc.
. •
carrying. the hammocks up in the Mottling, and
number of people were listening to • them.. Thle.
people who slept, aft were to come forward. I hear`;
Collins 'say he had passed the word aft ; and the.
people had all agreed to it. After the discourse was
settled about the hammocks; Edward Taylor eb-
served to the company, they must beware of Mr.'
Stanton, the MaSter;s-mate. • John Collins tr“(l°
answer, saying, Damn him, he, will be no trouble
at all ; we can smother him in- hi.ched.:" I saial
" Collins, I hope you will do no such thing ;":r
answered, " Damn rrry blood, what's.ione-man's
to a thousand ?" said, jack,khop& there
none going to Jose their r-Tayl•nr,Voser‘JedY
he hoped we could do it witlinat; iiut-Ithere sva
one more man we -must take ektelof,LJahn lik!kY
the boatswain's- mate. One amongthe Crowd
" Damn him, we can hustle him among ourselves.
I went away a little while after ; I met Taylor on
the lower deck, and asked him if he was going 101
Ward again to make such a noise as in the afternoon',
1.-ic said he did not know. I told him I thought it
would be better to ger three men to speak to ill°,
Admiral, when he came to the hatchway; for Oar
when we were together making- such a noise, 06
one could know what the Admiral said, or the
Admiral what the ship's company said.' He said;
he thought that would be the best way, if we could
get any body to speak to the, Admiral. I told hint:
I dare say, there were plenty, in the ship would d‘i
it.' He said, I dare say John Collinsivill do
and Joseph Rowland.' I then went away to It
middle deck between six and,seveo; I met por,'
Rowland .on the middle deck,. and began to te'
him what Taylor and I had been talking abetit,;-
he said; he was agreeable- to.speak, as he thought
it better for two or three to speak to the Adinif!i,
than so many.'---On Monday morning I M Tar"'
on Ta"'
on the middle deck; and asked.him again about Or
letter ;. he said, ' I had better wait another daY °r.
two,.', he told me when the hands were turned of
toluomoor, to repair to the lower deck again. Aftie,‘;
dinoer, I was carrying my dirty' water. to the hea,l;
I saw a parcel of people standing at the .foreniu'
gun of the main deck ; re Franey over the b
c,
of the gun; and James Cliesterman, with a pair'e •
pea-squeezers in his hand, to cobb him with : bef°t4s:
he began, he pulled off his hat, and said, r-,5
going tocobb him for breaking the laws of the shJP
company,' then he gave him a dozen..
At five o'clock in the evening of.MondaY''''
cr
a
going down the starboard Side of the lowerti-oo
.e -
when I met Cooke, the Prisoner who asked
Where. I was going ? .1 told him nowhere in pal'
cular ; -he said you may as well lOok out here. ,a 0
asked 'What for ; he said they were going td
some business ;- I told him I was going to lookver
on the other side; I went back, and crossed °,5
the fore.gratings, and went into Chesterrna‘it,
birth, where Fitzgerald and Chesterman were "I 1,
ing about it.. Chesterman called William Lock wct
and asked him if he would look out : he. the" "ray
out of the birth, and was takings man out. of eV

I

t

v - .
'' '' - ••vay of to the .I!)airt hatchway ; as he
es• - ''.-'' ~ -• -watchword. If any Officer
.. • • ast gave the
4 r„,,,,artt,, the watch-word was, 'f Give me a
ii.::..,- ,it o)bacco." Then he
_went into .the midsbip
isiii;l, under the bowsPrit, along with Edward Tay.
I°l., `who began to write a•letter ; there was no
ciiter. man in the birth, ors.near, except the people
looking out. An Officer came forward, they sang
,
,:ait, ,c Who. will give me a chew of tobacco." The
6.ndle was pat out till *the•Officer was gone, when
tiiev- again.bersan The second watch-word was,
t`Kiesc'k. that rat down." s''sn. Officer Came down
'again, and the, light was put out again. As soon
as 11-! .7as ooney the watch:•word was, " I want to
b .
tvater " An Officer :came down, and the light
.
was put put again. .. Edward Tayior and Chester,
tnan went into _ Rowland's birth, where the. letter
ttras finished. • After the letter was finished and di..
•ieded, Taylor asked who had got a seal ? Daly
'said, " Don't do that, you should not seal it."—_
'lle then got a key of a chest and pressed it on the
Wafer. Then Chesterman and .Taylor went to the
Midship birth with the letter,
.
and I followed to see
' •tvhereit was going. . Sothe conversation paised be_
P.Veen Taylor and Chesterman, to know which way •
tt was to be conveyed to 'the Admiral. Chesterman
thought it would do if he could give it to a Quit.-
ter-Master to put in the. binnacle. Fitzgeraldgone ?
came op, and asked Taylor if the letter was
'gone
no. He said, If you give it tome
I will give it to Janies Shaw, the Marine, who will
hove the middle watch to-night, and he will put it in
the Admiral's Steward's birth. Taylor said, we want
the Admiral to get ,it to-night : they could contrive,
n° waY to'get it to the Admiral that night, And Tay.
or gave it to iiitgerald. I heard no more of the
letter till I heard it read on the quarter-deck. I
am sensible there was no man but Chesterman and
Taylor knew the contents of the letter, except it
was broke open afterwards and read. On Tuesday
morning Edward Taylor came to me.on the main-
deck, and asked me if I had any of his writing ? I
told him, no; I had not. Be asked me if I was sure
of that ? I said I would overhaul arid see to convince
Mtn, but I was sure I had not. He told me, if the
hands were turned up io unmoor, to repair to the
lower deck as before. I told him, very well. In
chthe afternoon I was on the lower deck in James
esterman's birth. Chesterman asked me if I knew
Hazard, and if / knew any thing of his carrying
messages to the Officers. I told him I never saw
him, and I had never spoken to him. Chesterman..
and Fitzgerald fell into discourse about it :
they
anted .to put an end to him
by some means or
other. Fitzgerakl said, if he • was put into a
1 tead-bag they might heave him overboard ;---.
_Chesterton •-seemed Pleased at the punishment.—
§otne other conversation passed I did not hear.
business
made it up at last to let him remain till the
, was all -settled ; Taylor being present at
Ithat time, said, t, you must take care what we talk
iefore him."v
I, went away, anti walked the gang-
'l3l with. Taylor. I said, " Ned, I think it is a
foolish thing coining down on the lower deck when
the hands are turned 1 ;to unmoor." He. asked tne,
Why, whit could I find better ?" ‘f I said we
'..tuitild shew ourselves. more like men to go on the
quarter-deck, and tell the Admiral our reasons, so
-,,n1-c-,-c-c-rtnan might answer for himself, if spoke
t°; that if we went to the lower deck it would
riy give the Officers the trouble to come down and
brtivde, us o-
p as before, and you may be sure 'they will
very
like ,e 4rl when the, hands are' turned up, anti.
iswhen we can ' t. f the middle fleck.
"
get au o ,
iie saki.
about .-,- ``:Very vvell,- I shall consider and see
,i• - u•''ss-Soonarter;.he told me that was to be
sie wa
eit___ Y. and the word. was-passed, by whom I
unmoor tell, that when the hands ,were turned up to
Wed ners'd we were to lo on the quarter-deck. On
the first
tay morning t tat word was passed again,
tinng . onelT . lt' e mates came to
our birth.). ,___ , of . Lrrte... sm_ss-
man a "`= was the Surgeon's servant, a black
' and asked "f h-
Nin IT •• i the
messmate was there ? I told
e'vvas not • then he 'said 'he was somewhere-
a4Ont the i • '
' sniP, and he believed he was 1
groggy.
Rent to the lower deck, -where asked
I I was by one
of the ris ' •
.i. ~ P oners' if had seen any thing of Verrick ?
A to4(t him‘ I had not—he told me he was somewhere
not-
labout the ship drunk, and must be found. Soon after
was 1, •
, wall in the middlercleck, where I saw Verrick
Walking on the starboard side of the gallery. I went
down to the lower deck, and called Chesterman and
Collins ; I told them I thought he was not drunk :
C:ollins said he was drunk just now, for he saw I 'm
la
in the Admiral's Steward's birth, and he dared say
Ile had been asleep, and that might him
make a little
fresh again: there was nothing Sid " 1 •
.
o iim th
.'night ; the word was passed w hena tat
all hands were
lorned up to unmoor, to go 'to the forecastle and
lore rigging •
g ; Taylor gave it.• me •
, .Chesterman,
'
?p.Taylor, Ward, Cooke; and Fitzgerald, were the
ly
i_ persons I. ever saw pass the word. —On
A.ZrBday the same word was passed again ; our
,eft,nultcial went aboard the Commander in Chief; I
goincr
t_wn and asked whether they had or were
had Cobbat: Verrick yet ?. He, did net think' he
I told 11 ,
it • .he asked the if I saw him, last night ?
HI), Yes, and did not think he was drunk ;
went.
With
away from him, and went to James Chester..
. Vand asked hith What they were going to do
r.. erricis ?" Do with him! cob's,. him, to be
- stare. /
%vile told him, I thought he was not drunk
n I saw him . .
. , in the gallery ; I told him. Ward
thought it might give him a caution not to drink so
/lintels a ..f . ,_
gi , gain • i that be d--'d ; because he's a bit
an officer terwar htobe is l e screened,"---j was told 'af-
ds li 41 d__ , _ c was cobbed, burl did not see it ;he had
h.. uzen and a half: the word was passed by the
.r.iso
Hers to repair to the' forecastle and fore rigging
hen the Admiral
,zi,Ara came on board ; I was told it by
t rd ~. Taylor. When the Admiral came' on
°ard, he Produced
knon
.I the letter, and asked if it was
dosn 1-131 the sl'tip's company that such a thing was
re:7, -c• all hands answered, yes.. The Admiral' it ;'`j;iAs and asked a second tirae if they all knew
if , neY. answered, " yes." He asked. the Marine
t'leY knew ' they • ,
the' ship's it . made no answer. He asked
The,, company if he .should read it over again'?
• ." answered, fu no." All'l beard was, the' Ad_allral sai .
tti 0,,,. when the hands were turned up to tin-
. °°l. the ship, ;11•, , p, he expe6ed it -Would be done accord_. A .great' deal of conversation passed I did
.""r hear .`
,134,1, -
~:.; He .satisfied the ship's 'company very-
s ~ tile. r
j Pettedalfs well. pleased at what the Ad-
rat said .
) still determined not 'to tintneor the ship
..

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_ • •
' to go'fo:the 'West ~About a quafter after
twelve;, I. saw M'Evoy on the quarter deck;
talking-to one of his own Officers: After the ham_
mocks were piped down, I went to his birth,
and called him ; he followed mc. as well as- he
could under the hammocks till be got against
the breech of the middle. gun. I asked him what
he was doing on.the gum ter-deck ? he did not make
any other answer, than that he did not know, ,
only lie said his Officer told him he was-a d—d
rascal ; I then told him, he was drunk; he said, no;
he had not drama a drop that evening. Sonic little
time after, I went down Wow to tinlasli my 'ham-
mock. When I got to the foot of the fore,ladder, I
heard the iron shoving up ; I went over the lar-
board side of the deck to Fitzgerald's birth, and
told hiM M'Evoy was drunk, arid that somebody
was going in irons, but I did nct knoW whO it
was ; he desired me to go and see. I went up the
main ladder, and saw it was a Marine. came
down the main ladder again, and coming'aft of the
deck, I saw a ,Marine I-knew. I-asked him what
his messmate was -put in -irons for ? He said, he
had no messmate in irons. I said there was a Ma-
rine in'irons; he said, yes.' I asked him what
it was for ? he said, be did not knoW. , I said, I
believed he was drunk ; he replied, he did not know.
I said he must 'have - done something amiss, or he
would not have been confined; he said he had abused
his Corporal. I said, if he had got drunk and abused
his Officer, and got in irons, he must work himself
out: as well as he knew how. I left him, and went
down the fore ladder into the lower deal;,- into
John Fitzgerald's birth. I- asked Skelley where
Fitzgerald was ? he shewed him on the gangway.
I went and spoke to him ; he told me I should stop,
he was busy. I then went to his birth, alongside.
Skelley; and I.saw Taylor come down and call him
away. I was sitting in the aft part of the birth,
I looked round and saw them run as far aft as the
gun-room. I then went forward to John Mait-
land's birth ; -I said, " Jack, there is a Marine in
irons.." He asked' me who ? I told' him M'Evoy.
He said, we must have him out. I. asked him what
we must have him out for ? He said there Were no
prisoners' allowed. ' I said he was as drunk as hell,
and he had better let him bide. I had scarce said
that when I saw a parcel of people go up the fore.:
ladder ; heard Edward Taylor say, -" bear a hand
Up from below, every man fore and aft.".-' 'All the
people in Maitland's birth were myself, Ward, and
Lockyer. I then went away to the fore.;ladder,
expeCting, they were going to release the Prisoner.
I could not get up time enough ; there was nobody
there ; went past my own
,birth, and sat down
before the foremost gun, till I thought it' was all
over. I then went round under the bowsprit and
came back again-between the foremast and the cop-
per : 1 had not been there five minutes before John
Davis came in and asked for a hat—" who will lead
me a h: to go on deck in ?" one made him
any answer. I can't say whether lie was gone
when Mr. Glover came and called me to go upon
deck : I told him, " yes, I would come diredly;'.'
I went to the fore-ladder not.knciwing the gratings
were on ; I could not get up ; then I went to the
main-ladder, when Glover came to me, and told me I
must go up the after ladder, over to
,the larboard side
of the main deck'. Mr. Charlton was walking along-
side, and Mr: Stanton before us. I went on deck
on the-starboard side by order of the Officer. The
Admiral cattle round, and putting the lantern to my
face, said he thought he heard my voice on the fore- •
castle ; I answered him, " no, Sir, I was not there ;"
he said he believed I was, till I told him Mr. Glover
sent me up from below ; he then passed me, and
said no more. The next morning, Friday, the Boat-
swain's mate told me to go aft ; as I was going
Mr. Brown seized me by the collar, and sent me un-
der the poop:awning, as a prisoner, till the Admiral
and Captain came up ;- I was ordered to the quarter-
deck ; the Admiral said, " this is the man spoke
to last night ';" I answered him yes, but told him
it was a mistake he told me to hold my. tongue,
and not speak. I heard the Admiral ask if, that was
not the man who spoke to the-Marine last„night ?
the Captain answered, yes, it vti4sr. Then the Ad_
miral said, " that's the man who turned the hands
up." I said, " no, Sir, it was not." He told me
not to speak another word. I was then taken away,
and 'remained till three in the afternoon.' I was then
sent. aboard the Windsor Castle as a prisoner,"
Examined by Captain Eyles.
Q. Did You ever hear Collins, Chesterman, Fitz-
gerald, or any of the prisoners say they were the
Delegates for the ship ?—A. I have heard, Taylor
and Chesterman say so, no other petson. •

Q. Where were Chesterman and Taylor at the
time they said so, and who else were present ?—A.
They were in Chesterman's own birth, nobody
heard it but myself, it was on Wednesday.afternoon.
Fitzgerald, Chesterman, Taylor, James. Kelly,
Henry Classon, and Thomas Riley, were playing
at Chequers.
Q. Did you ever hear any of the prisoners pro-
pose to break,open the magazine or gunner's store-
room ?—A. I never did, nor any of the. ship's
company.

Q. Did you ever hear any of the prisoners speak
of loading the lower deck guns ?—A. I never did.
Q. Did you ever hear any of them speak of rush-
ing aft to kill the Officers ?—A. I never did ; I
heard Taylor and them say, on the Saturday, they
were not going to hurt any Officer.
Q. Between the ist and 7th of December, did
you hear any thing of an oath taken to stand true
to each other, or a toast being drank ?—A. I never

Examined by the Court.
Q. At the time you confess the ladder was un-
shipping on the lower deck, did you hear any body
call out for shot ?—A. Yes, I did.
Q. Where were you standing at tie time ?--
A. Before the foremost gun upon the lowcr gun-
deck.

Q. Now, upon your oath, do you declare you
did" not see either or the whole of the prisoners at
the time shot -was called for 4—(2. I saw Ward,
the prisoner, standing close to, me ; we were stand-
ing so thick I could not see, except when: the.
scuttles wore up; I did not see any other_ of the
prisoners._

Q. Where were you standing when Wilier
called out to lower the ports fore and aft I was
sitting close against the breech of the foiemost gun.

Q. Which of the prisoners did yOu see at that
time ?---,A; I .saw Hillier; Ward, and Lcickyer.
Q. Do you •ieeblleCt seeing any thing of any
cariridges of powder in that part,of the shit, or any
• burning matches ?.=•—k I never did.
Q. When the ship's company were 'totted up
to bend the sails, did either of the prisoners remain'
below to your knowledge ? A. No ; I did not see
them ,

Q. Look round at the prisoners, and point out
those who have said they would not go out of the
land.—A. I have heard them all say, ‘g We must
not go if we can help it," and. the Whole of the
ship's tonipany besides, them. •
Q. Did Mayfield,. Lockyer, and Ward, go on
deck when you did ,?—A. They followed me out
of the birth, but I did nct see whete they went.
Q. Did the prisoners consider you as a principal
thor in this business, or only as a messenger ? Was
you fully in their secrets ?—I was fully let into
their secrets. The reason I was let- into their.se_
crets was my letting them into mine. When I
went down with a sheet of paper, Taylor knew he
had trusted me with so many before, he thought he
could trust me with this.

O. From Taylor. and Chesterman's having such
confidence in you, and letting you into their secrets,
did you never hear them mention any thing about
an oath.—A. I never did.

Q. Did you see Daly in the manger ? A. I did
not,, I was standing right in midships, on the star-
board side ; I could not see ; Daly might have been
on the starboard side, and I not see him.
Q. Did you see any person look out of the haw-
ser-hole for boats ? A. No, I never did.

Q. Did you hear Ward, Hillier, or any of the
prisoners desire Daly, or any' one, to do so I A.
No,' I did not. -

Q. Did you ever see Thomas Cross in May-
field's or Ward's birth ?—A. I never did ; I never
heard him speak any thing.
Q. What was your reason for pointing Rowland
out as a fit person to go aft ?—Because I. thought
he' was a man fit to speak to the Admiral, and to
give the Admiral an answer when he spoke to him.
Q. Do you mean by that he was a man who fre-
quently gave his opinion upon those subjects ?
A. No. Sir.

Q. Do you know whether the bucklers were on
or off' the hawse hole, or whether there was anY.,
day-light -The ports. were all up. . -
Captain
.7ones.You freqtiently carried mes-
sages between 'chesterman,. Fitzgerald, and May-
field's birth, and, reported every thing that was
going on. In what light did you consider those'
people in this'business They Were the prin-
cipal men.
Q. Look round at the Prisoners, and name those
you looked upon 'as the Ringleaders ?-L-A. James
Chesterman, Edward Taylor, James Ward, John
Mayfield, John Fitzgerald, and William: Cooke.
Preridezt.--Q. Who was the person who said
you must beware of Mr. Stanton ?—A. Taylor said
that Collins said " Damn him." '

Q. Du not you think that wasbeing a ringleader ?
What do you think of Hillier, who called to lower
down the ports ? Who were the other ringleaders,
or acting men ?—A. Collins, Hillier, Cummins,
and Lockycr.
Q. Was not Daly.?--A. I never heard him say
any thing but about sealing the letter. I never saw
him.

Q. Was not Christopher White'?—l saw nothing
of him.

Q. Do you know any thing of Rowland ?—A.
Nothing but his being proposed to go aft.
Q. What do you know of George Cross I
know nothing of him:
Q, Although you have mentioned that several of
the men have not said much to you, don't you, to
the best of your opinion, think the whole of the pri-
soners were the leading men in the disturbance 'on
board the Temeraire ?=A. No, Sir.

Cross-exqnziaed by Mayfield,
Q. Did I go alr'On the gdarter-deek on the Sa-
turday with the people to say,
,the Ship should not
go ?A. I cannot say; • •
Q. Did you ever look forward' on the forecastle
while the people were aft ? A. Admiral Campbell
and Captain Ayles said, they saw you on the.fore-
castle.

Cross-examined 4y games Ward.

Q. Did you see me pre3eiit, at the time the let-
ter was wrote? A. No, I did not.

Q, Did you ever receive your orders from me ?
A. No, I did not.
Q. Did I ever order you to go with any mes-
sage ?—A. No, you did not.
O. Did you ever see me aaive fore and aft the
ship, or in any, other person's birth ?—A. Yes, I
have, in my own birth ; you told my messinates,
not to carry their hammocks down in the morning.
Cross-examined by Chesterman.
- -

O. Did you ever hear ine make mention to any
person 'or persons in the ship, any, thing concerning
a rocket, as a signal;
~to any of the ships in Beer-
Haven ?—A. I did-riot.

Q. You say, you heard me and John Snowden
discoursing together., on the first beginning, did
you-not hear me saY prlVately to Snowden, that
some of the petty officers should make known-to
the. Admiral and Captain the state of •the ship, to
prevent any further mischief, and to endeavour to
suppress I did not. .
Crosi-examined by Fitzgerald.

Q. Upon the oath you .have tal&n, did you hear
me say any thing about a lighted match ?—.A. No.
O. Did you ever see me in Mayfield's birth;
drinking with the best part of the prit,oners ? A. No.
Q. Did'you ever see me in my own birth with
a sheet of paper reading to s great number of people?
—A. I never did. .
Q, On-Monday, at What",tirtr, and where' did
Taylor give me the'letter ?-4. 'About a quarter
before eight o'clock:..:;_
O. Where :c.attie and' gave it over my
left shoulder ; he reached over the cable.
-Q. Who was present when I spoke to Chester-
man about putting Hazard in a bred bag, and de-
stroying him, and Nvile re was i! I—A. In you' own
birth ; I do not recoiled any by name but Kelly ;
there were others, and Taylor came before it was
finished..

Q. On Thursday night, who was present when I

told you to go up and see who was 16 1-..ns A.
Kelly; Ri!ey, and
Wht) ~ras 1 busy-wi-th at the time;o, shrtej
to spt:ik' Spel,tor, Cunitruli :IEI se •
ter,l people besid.c.; were talking about a pih.,
f). afiLi Allen together
A. I never OA.

Q. In the course of you ;ind me being shipmates,
did you ever see me' and John AnUrey, at any one
time, in. cofiVersation together ? never did.
Crost.egaMiited by
.Ccilies.

Q. Do you, on Saturday,, remember, seeing me,
about nine o'clock in the morning, going tonnO the
deck with Chesterman and Fitzgerald, soliciting the
people to go aft on the quartcr-deckl—A. No.
Q. Did you hear, me; on Sunday the. bth, when th:
hammocks were going our, very ,much in company
with Fitzgerald, singing our, es 6, you
don't know you'r own mind ?'—A. No,- I did not.
Q. When you was..forward on the ltnfer deck,
in company with me, Taylor, chestermin, Fitz,
gerald, Ward, and Lockyer, were there no other
persons yOu can call to rec,,olledlion who were
there.?--F-A. There.were a number of others, besides,
whom I do not recoiled.