The Sun.
London, England, 1833-04-23 00:00:00

tht artiong one class in that place be readily admitted, at
The same !line that no man could more deeply regret the
e than himself. He only contended attlirtto
;Ito exaeuersted statements of the Hon. Gentlemen. and
all:: thoueht it his duty to do, at whatever risk, in the
thisof his constituents, the house, anti the country, for
Kinzie rea-on---that he was convinced it was het er
hadthat the triit', should be known. reareoefi that he
not the st teiiient of the amount of the Manchester
that P r..rates with I • •' II when he heard it asserted
the l'urstiPris o'fimthee;Potpctill'arYien of that place were upon
wh,l:arish book:. How that was possible in a town
th " recollected, the rates were only 4s. in
the r''"ndi he could not conceive. When he turned to
hid a!mulit of poor rates for the county of Lancaster,
andefling Liverpool and many large manuf otturing towns,
:ti„), ( the returns as followed, he had not the
„',,,t"t hesitation in giving a direct contradiction
"ie statement that few-fifths of the in. abitants
Th•
ell
'nchester were charged on the pour-rates
'
33„ orrates of Lancashire amounted, in 1814 ~... to
2904,,91. ; in 1818 to 372.000/. ; and in 1831 to
a; inn
a diminution of 30 per cent, in the
popu Alton nincreased
t'lZ'rdt"eeh the h 1 • had meanwhile by
from of 300.000 sou's. He held in his hand a letter
lad a gentleman residing in Manchester, who had for.
tviih"l, him a return of the wages of labour as compared
I,„„t"e Price of provisions, with which, however, he
-4, not trouble the House. The writer stated that his
see,„
greßaint showed that since 1813 there had been a pro-
„ ye improvement in the condition of the people: in
epri,"(isqluenee inventions facilitating and inereasime.th.re
thitiureTi°o of yarn, and owing to the employmentiof
e'erlyen'oth' People were better fed and clothed t
htt their employment was never more regular; ar,m~avrTs
t)ry.
wd
out of the question, of course, the hand-loom
ges were rmod, and the state of trade saii-fde
aefle now came to the town last upon his list, which
11N4 "‘T referred to on a former occasion by an Hon.
446" rt
°PPesite. who represented it ; and whence that
tt,,trt"s;-"nati bad drawn so many statements of extratirdinary
thet he (Mr. Thomson), had he not before his
111,Z the evidence of the Parl am-ntary writ by which the
t ,;1111ernber Was returned, should almost have been
lfeetverpted to doubt whether the Hon. Gentleman had
ha't his foot within the place.--( Hear, and a laugh.)
ti, dad been foiest died in his intended statements as to
Al"de been
of Pauperism in Birmingham by the Hon.
of 4.ther f"r Walsall! but he should refer to the condition
tie',;)" Of the canal property of the place, as tolerably fa
toil:eree of the amount of the activity of industry. The.
in Ise' the old Birmingham canal in 1826 were 88,0901.,
or-32
theY amounted to 105,000/. The tolls of the
resales eester
„ canal were 20,000/. in 1826 ; in 1832 they
matnqt 4700/. That was tolerable evidence that trade
nitse° the decline in Birmingham. In 1826, time
le f the were 1 0251. ; in 1832 they
ere 30 0 town ,
93/. ; neither did this appear to him evidencetn noff
e;pi, ,ng prosperity, or of that complete annihila to h
repoii.which was talked of.—(Hear.) NI hat was t e
Well had reeeived from a gen:letnan of Birmingham
ttatellseLahfiell to form an opinion en the subject? He
felt •( 'at, from an experience of more than 50 years, he
4,l'tified in saying that he never saw the artisans of
It ace
better fed, cloth-d, and housed than at present;
ft
jaVeeted the town itself he perceived every symptem
ur 'Prrwerrient; the property of the place, and with in
teehreil'a of b, increased in value twenty-five per
Patoehithin the last fifteen years; the increase cf
' the
re„lal, expenditure was trifling compered with
dse,, pepulation • ; almost all transactions were con-
edf to Pin money terms, the canals had a larger amour
l'eforen''La"ge Passing through them than had been ever
'aPeo-„'wo, and all the public institutions were well
't5,•,,,,'1.---(Hear.) These farts did no bear out t e
,-;:i)ts of the Hon. Member Let him (Mr. Thomson)
ft,,, op 'iirther, and state the increased consumption of
of lif att toles
which might now be called the necessaries
t compared with the increase in the population.
lout' great articles which entered largely into
taf''estimption of the post--tobacco, sugar, tea, and
thst""and he should go back to the year 1814, because
14nPeri0d had been referred to by the Member tor White-
y. cotistitetine one of the halcyon days of our profs-
-34:,..*hen taxes were high and the people thriving. n
1832 :", consumption of tobacco wa- 15,000.0001 b. ; in
31 I, had increased to 20,00,000ib., an augmentation. of
tar' n hilst the population only showed an in-
-1832 1834 of 24 percent during the interval from 1814
that
P 241. ,orl,ligar, even including all that was used at t
in the distilleri, s, the consumption in 1814 was
et il'9'7ooolbs. ;in 1832 it amounted to 3,655,00ti1b.—f
%sit:o"."'•s °i 83 per cent. to he set against an increaseli.li
" eent.
P'pulation. The tea consumed in 18
5„,14 19,224,0001 h. ; in 1832 it increased t '31,548 0000),
ii"D fiher"'" of 65 per cent. still agains. populti-
hitte 24 per cent, increase. The coffee con•umed in
eael,p`',^lY arneunted to 6,324,000ib. ; but in 1832 it
t,tir -ct2,952.000i1). showing an increase of 183 per
tth,;,' aeatnst an increase of twenty fur per cent.
ion
Tolation.—(Cheeling.) He took these at titres
' 'relee, the Member for Oldham say what he plased,
17e"• 'R;,7,ltd their increased consumption an evidence of
that th
4mg prosperity the people. H. maintained
led "titernent showed that the people as a mass en-
el gteater n
u• tnacoin torts over the of life than
us•
um The rienlin man added little or nothing to his
t." 'NI of the necessaries and converts of life, on. ac-
t;tttvl,- oenhthreeduct..4l pfrliti.e attteyrh.aic..hy:hey might be attained,
a iII and employment was
poor,togeWttlaOt"rig the efm it was then that those articles
reach a vas; circle of persons who be-
hlt, ""t u.thiril to con,urr e them, and
.would any man
"tt oat this
was not evidence of the increased coinsi
l'o;i'otue humbler classes? (Hear, heir.) He woub
4ict 4ette or two more material articles of consumption
to
'tlo e separated from the preceding, because they
Nely e?tporten,
but
an increase in which showed
, O„
pi'
employment but probably an augmen-
ts, , h
11, °'"e consumption. He referred to cotton, sheep,
iit4:l,tort'e-i silk. In 1820, 152,0001 b. of cotton wool wereoo
411 •h; 14 1832 the imports amounted to 259,000,0
1.4 tLer"se of 70 n r cent In 1820 the censurnp-
e„:ll4ess-,,iheePs' Wool w.ites 9,778,0001 h. ,• 1832 it hail
ti qt' t° 27 666 000 lb an augmentation of 183 per
th.,:.,thaPa' he 'had better not quote the article of
tq tur,,4"uties having been so changed of late years. If
is he ilia t° the health of the people, what did we find
Nos ea • • " in the rate of
tality w. a!' • A striking diminu
41,tas, a 'thin the his. 50 yeirs. In 17.80 the
atkimiquti° 1 in 40, in 1831 it was as 1 in 58, showing
of 36
p:r cent. in the rate of mortality. He
that was not also an evidence that the con
r,"srt:. Mahe People had improved ? In adducing these
ttaPI,Y to th was more particularly addressing himself in
gich h at part of the Hon. Gentleman's speech in
be2tated that the power of consumption of the
Oo4a °nly increased 11 per cent., while the popula-
atetl;illeereased 30 per cent. The documents he had
ri! esa," °wed the case to be very different. God knew'
fte:'etted as much as any man that there should be
'lto' 4 41 th
and the rath,r as he feared it was
st e Country'
the °° of affairs, to which we must submit p
trine' lame time be would be the first to advocate the
l'k%‘-'e that it was the bounden duty of Parliament
into
1114itY' reoltdy for that distress, anti that, vheneyerto
be
4'tit4PPeat d likely to point out a remedy, it ought
eTo any inqu ry which seemed to hold out a
4i of utility he would be the first to assent ; but he
1,,,k4t,,,the present peoposition because he considered. it_
t 4 s'l4 its consequences—not because lie was deaf
pet 'tkj.iYl.4 distress—not because he would H
not diminish
ti''.Patstre it to the utmost extent possible. . w
'(,lto„t.o contend, and he hoped to be able to show,
the ti.„lat the committee for which the Hon. Member
iU lahoe;"iehl be fellowed •by such ruinous consequences to
cO,leY fith'g classes as had never been inflicted in this or
etl,4triss c"untry. The history of this and. of otheri '
kit. 44. 1z°41(1 show that, however a depreciation of t
i to'irliolk'ght he beneficial to the debtor who wished to
Itet-ti,glit ht." lawful obligation,—ho a ever advantageous
i° ',lll 4.1 the shopkeeper who sought to get rid
bhis
4,fgt'h4,,t epaerr•--, it would be most injurious to the la ou
'les, '"Ve classes of the community. He c.eoutkel
tle,
chasm
the w ,t classes were favourabl sl Preei • "1 ' of some go-
attota. He bad an opportunity
tio -Ithat -'tarlee with the feelings of those classes, and,
, 'tot, araiine
s all that he had beard from some curreanlci,
o,t;elaset4i4fought to impress their notions tin others, and
thed
---(i.',44,,,,„e0ing in ,he people, he was certain that . se. `te '"y • if not adverse, to it.
to ight
11°n• ere inu ..erent,
',AN;;I"I4 •A": 4 Gentleman here took a view uf the
std 'ttllntiorls in the currency from 1527 to 1770,
Preej,,, ar0o4::" that in all those cases distress was
eeetsu„.°° Oce„. the workin4 classes, for that the. de-
roe
iri'les „11°°eil rise in the money value of the
tth, o,e
"!' I
without producing a corresponding
,ato ee
of g,to of 4 labour.) Mr. A. Smith, in speaking
ov„.
'as the ,a,••s,re"Lb depreciation said—" The vrincipal
-• •
tho, minutataurers and labouiers
'oieh hy btr 'ld not seem sensible of and it was
tiarie °lil atoriaus---the debieement of the coin,
t 'l4 lit Pureh
5 heyaridhose the same quantify of the net:es-
tate, a soda' nothing to those who bad every thing
Poo.d.'gutoetit gto sell but their labour." The very
th . w"tiltl a
vkie log 0h... pp yto the depreciation now pi o-i
spee:t
as nee of lv • period from 1770 to 1816, they
the Arthur ng, a gentleman who had
t4,ars
,r,,,t,!), to the Agricul ural Society, three
'Tages pitta y guinea into the prices of provisions and
vutar. • .
c"rdtng to his statement, it ap- 1