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London, England, 1851-08-06 00:00:00

IVIPERIAL PARLIAMEA t.

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Their Lordships sat at Twelve o'clock, pro forma.
The following Bills were read a third time and
passed:—
Collection of Fines, &e. (Ireland).
Constabulary Force (Ireland).
Summary Jurisdietion (Ireland).
Petty Sessions (Ireland).
General Board of Health (No. 2).
Emigration Advances (llistrested Districts of Scotland).
New Zsaland Settlements.
Metropolitan Interment.
Canterbury Association.
Coalwhippers (Port of London).
The Crown Estates Paving Bill and the General
Board of Health (No. 3) Bill passed through Committee,
and were reported to the House.

PETITIONS.
The Earl of HARDWICKE presented a petition
from the shipowners of Scarborough, complaining of the
operation of the repeal of the navigation-laws; alo,
from the seamen of the same port, against the Mercantile
Marine Act.
The Earl of HARROWBY presented a petition from
the Chamber of commerce and others of Edinburgh,
praying for a modification of mercantile law.
Their Lordihips then adjourned during pleasure.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAIiEIt took the Chair shortly after Twelve
clock.

NEW MEMBER,.
The Earl of ARUNDEL and SURREY took the oaths and
his seat ,or Limerick in the room Of Mr. John O'Con-
nell, who had accepted the stewardship of the Chiltern
Hundreds. The Noble Lord was introduced by Mr.
Monsen and Mr. °mild.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lords' amendments to the St. Andrew's and Que-
bec Railway Bill were considered and agreed to.
Brentwood Free Grammar School Estate Bill and
Webster's Divorce Bill were read a third time and
Passed.

PETITIONS.
Mr. WILCOX presented a petition from Southamp-
ton in favo
ur of the retention of the Crystal Palace.
.fr. G. F. YOUNG presented a petition from the
shipwrights of London, complaining of the want of em-
ployment, and praying for an alteration in the naviga-
tion-laws.
Ur. LACY presented a petition against the May-
tooth grant.
Colonel SIBTIIORP presented two petitions from
Places
Bill. in Lincolnshire against the Capitular Estates
WARLEY presented a petition from an elector of
Pinshury, praying for Parliamentary reform; also a
petition from the borough in favour of the Pharmacy
Bill.

Lord DUDLEY STUART presented a petition from
Mr. E. Jones on the subject of prison discipline.
NOTICES OF MO HON.
Colonel REID gave notice that early next session he
should move an address to the Crown on the subject of
the Military Knights of Windsor.
Capt. SCOI3ELL gave notice that tomorrow he would
put a question to the First Lord of the Admiralty on a
subject personal to himself. Although he was alive and
well, in the " Navy Directory" he was reported as dead.
DROPPED NOTICES.
The dropped notices of motion were re-appointed, most
of them for next session.

PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL.
On the motion for re-appointing this Bill until after
the other orders,
Sir B. HALL said he should object to its being taken
till after the notices of motion for to-day had been dis-
posed of.

The SPEAKER said the order could be taken before
any of the other business.
Sir B. HALL said in that case he must submit a mo-
tion to the House on the subject.
The SPEAKER ruled that the Hon. Baronet could
not MOVE) till the other orders and notices had been dis-
posed of.
Sir B, HALL said he intended to make his motion as
an amendent to the proposal that the Bill be postponed
!Mil after the other orders of the day. There was
!lewdly an instance where a Bill of this importance, which
had come down so late from the Lords, and which had
exeited so much opposition, had been pressed forward in
this manner. It was utterly impossible that it could
Page into a law in the course of the present session, un-
ege the standing orders were suspended, and he hoped it
would be withdrawn at once. At all events, he objected
to
„this hurried mode of legislation, and he called upon
ineeeells
oofustehetoßsaut.pport him in resisting the further pro-
Lord JOHN RUSSELL consented to allow the Bill
to
esta,nd over until all the other business had been dis-
Posed
141,Samutton was then agreed to.
ee PARLIAMENTARY AND LAW REFORM.
ROCHE wished to ask Lord John Russell,
kether, looking to the fact that under the late fran-
ee law in Ireland voters in boroughs have been re-
nearly nee_,y
en to eight thousand, and also to the unequal
oe the representation in that country, he will
aro Prepared to extend his new Reform Bill
a Ireland. Whether he will be prepared to
ef Pei" a Commission to inquire into the
:tote lave of Ireland with a view to its amendment and
nsoliaation. Whether he has any otjfction to lay on
the
table of the House a copy of any letter written by
ha,ebief Justice of the Queen's Bench in Ireland to the
fe u Chancellor or Attorney General fur Ireland in re-
to the system of legislation fur that country, and
1, unsatisfactory state of the law.
rd J. RUSSELL, in reply to the first question, re-
Quested
the Hun. Member to wait for an answer until
Whe. ‘eovernment measure was brought in.—CA laugh.)
itti regard to the second question, Government were
rat Prepared to appoint such a Cumaiissien; while, with
:II" to the third question, he had no knowledge of
41 Such letter having been received.
MESSAGES TO THE LORDS.
On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the fol-
eyeing Committee was appointed:—
Select Committee to settle the order in which Mem-
rB Shall accompany Mr. Speaker on all occasions when
1r Majesty shall command the House to attend her
e.ejeaty in the House of Peers •—Lord John Russell,
r Charles Wood, Sir James Graham, Mr. Henley. Mr.
lieelburrn Sir John Yarde Buller, Sir De Lacy Evens,
le Bernal, Sir John Duckworth, Sir Joshua Wahns-
gle Mr- Evelyn Denison Mr. Brotherton, Lord Marcus
EPISCOPAL AND CAPHULAR ESTATES MA-
NAGEMENT (No. 2) BILL.
On the motion for the third reeding of this Bill, •
_, Mr. HENLEY said the more he examined the provi-
litons of the Bill the more he was convinced that it would
2t work well either fur the Church or the lessees; one
Of the necessary consequences of the Bill would be to
egive power to ecclesiastical corporations to force sur-
renders from their poorer lessees, by refusing them re-
hewals, and ultima n
ely -a was afraid the operation of the
Pwould stop all renewals, No renewal could take
ace without a surrender, and he was afraid when once a
leasee surrendered in the hope of obtaining a re-
newal, the provisions of this Bill would be put in
force to prevent the renewal. lie should, therefore, move
that the Bill be read a third time this day nix months.
Col. SIB rHoaP seconded the amendment. When-
Wiever measures of this importance were pressed forward
th undue haste, he always suspected that there was
-si underhand work going on; and in this case he en-
tfee,oly agreed with all that had fallen from the Hon.
Member for Oxfordshire, who had moved the amend-
kr. J. A. SMITH said, the lessees aitin in
ab
in'
inweerto
e
taeretlY interested in this Bill, and it was
t
to a
to hurry it through the House without first giving
hn 01 an opportunity of considering its details, Re
;Taoltneti;P:seodrl:oawadeveirn, this Bill was only a prelude to legis-
for making the settlement of Church leases corn-
be should allow the Bill
Pftea. that hope only
ashlilre ALCOCK was entirely satisfied with the clans('
8. Q related to the lessees.
ft
it teir J. WILLOUGHBY objected to the Bill because
this the right of renewal in doubt. The ambiguity of
reea?ill to that respect ought to be cleared up before the
kire Was passed into a law.
41(4'
rtl AGLIONBY thought the Government were
lasenreg the scales of justice between the lessee and the
ft:ltb°ll-ttild doing their best to secure justice and equity
epeo
17310 sides. The Bill, as it now stood, was founded
th_cest and fair intentions, but at the same time he
cote pur it would ultimately be necessary to pass a
ho.ry Bill.
teith PALMER said the claims of the lessee were
er ten„,
"leg to tred upon an equitable or a legal right; but,
t! system of ar mismanagement of the Church property,
fo the crewanewals had sprung up that was common
inlevethewirerleeaFYlands of Ireland. The lessees, in
ill'ildincohedhecohadentitled to term of tenure specified
; but owing to the mismanagement to
maker
referred, the lessees had not only been
a claim to tenant-right, but to come to
alliernent to seek to have the claim confirmed.
Mr,
le.eißEADLeeei • • •
protested against the principles of
ms laid
wle'edi"e by the Honourable and Learned Gentle -
client to lent addressed them. The lessees had a moral
stem renewals which neither law nor equity had ever
vie a2Pted to
8 , override, and be was glad that it
t°th th;eleabiesendd by this Bill. It was opposed
ri a Misname experience of the past to say that
gement of a property could not confer a ght, benau
of
,ese, in the cases of copyholds and ground
!I th® glees had arisen out of the mismanagement
;.'ter 114"duperty, which the Legislature had ratified
Tteeeet
_°Lver again. It was neither for the
!Fe aeve,raluz, the Church nor the public that
tee Fniee claims of the lessees should be denied for
eorperrtie_of, increasing the property of ecclesiastical
Mr. •
Skins BAhROW generally approved of the provi-
lese °f th
eeeetit both e Bill,end thought that it would
°tabling the
the Church and the public, by
ecclesiastical corporations to buy u
teware'renchise loases, and devoting the proceeesp
districts promotingcts the spiritual welter° of destitute
•
e Sir M. en
if %id OLIIELEY was convinced that this Bill
it ,4,87 tooked upon out of doors with great distrust
Of
the
.arintggleel through the House within two days
ittlestainesdernifunition of the session. Many lessees had
'4l be from Petitioning against it because they
Sew en assured that it would not be pressed this
di The
-rnendment was then negatived without a divi-
-0 and ilia Billreadthird
a time.
toeenel the motion that the Bill do
clen„e Inente
there made in several clausseos,m ande
ter .v 3 added t e Join the first provPidaiss, verbal
e rt bwaol
eltit ft„
—claired by Wives tee—tild be inugbjteheatt theW thn;