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LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 28, 1851

Bilbs of coke per mile, instead of burning 261b5.,
which your heavy engines do at the pre.
sent moment. I will guarantee that you shall
carry, if necessary, a certain amount of goods
in addition to the passenger traffic." They agreed
to my preposition; these engines were ordered, and will
be delivered, aq I have stated to you, by the Ist of May.
Now, I ask you whether we have not been prepared to do
all we could? But we were not.prepared to stultify ourselves
by entering into a blind course of policy which would
have the effect of handing over our property
for four years and a half to those who
propose the adoption of an act adverse to your
interest, and I, as an independent proprietor and one of
the oldest shareholders, will at my own cost pursue any
course of legal proceeding necessary to put an end
to an agreement the mutuality of which has
never bean disturbed by your directors, but which has
never been acted upon by the Eastern Counties Company.
The course which I propose in this matter has not been
taken without deep refleotion. I profess to some know-
ledge of a practical character, which enables me to
come to you and say you may take the steps I recommend
without any fear of sustaining loss, and I believe you will
thank the board ever afterwards for pursuing that inde-
pendent course of conduct which only as commercial men
they can pursue.—(The Hon. Gentleman sat down amid
loud and protracted cheers.)
Mr. BARKER seconded the resolution. _ _ _

Major COURT described the position in which
the company was now placed as that of the man who
locked the door after his steed was stolen. He had al-
ways objected to this agreement, but there could
be no doubt that, under its provisions, they were
bound to stick to the Eastern Counties Company until
1855. He should therefore object to the company being
put to any expense either in taking law or other pro-
ceedings to set this agreement aside, which he contended
the Eastern Counties had strictly fulfilled. The opinion
expressed by Mr. Margrave ought to be taken as
a matter of speech and not as conveying the
real feeling of the Eastern Counties Board on the subject
of the amalgamation, or the agreement in the policy
which that company proposed in future to adopt. Still
he had no objection to adopt the permissive resolution,
provided that it was understood that no legal proceed-
ings should be taken.
Mr. PETO hoped it would not be necessary to go to law.
All that it was proposed to do was tocall upon the Eastern
Counties to complete the agreement, or abandon posses-
sion of a line which they held out to the public was a
losing concern. It would be bad taste to indulge
in threats of retiring, but the directors had
given the proprietors their best advice, and it was
for them to decide whether that advice should be
acted on or not. This was a most important
crisis in their affairs, and he had no hesitation in
declaring that unless something was immediately done
to avert such a result, there was nothing for the com-
pany but ruin.
A SHAREHOLDER asked what the cost of working was
before the lino passed into the hands of the Eastern
Counties Company.
Mr. PETO said they would obtain nothing from being
put in possession of that information.
The CHAIRMAN, however, declared that it was much
less than what was now charged by the Eastern Counties
Company.
A SHAREHOLDER thought the interests of the com-
pany could be safely entrusted to the present
board, which was composed of honourable and
business - like men, and after the lucid and
satisfactory statement of Mr. Peto be did hope the meet-
ing would unanimously adopt the resolutions which he
had proposed to them.
The CHAIRMAN hoped so, too. All he could say was,
that be perfectly agreed with the spirit and tenor of
these resolutions, and he felt that the board would ul-
timately succeed in restoring the prosperity of the un-
dertaking. The Secretary would read the special report
of the auditors.

Mr. Priv thought it right to mention that the report
of Messrs. Quilter upon the state of their capital account
was ready, and that it would be shortly published; also,
that all the accounts were strictly accurate and highly
satisfactory.
The report of the auditors were then read.
The CHAIRMAN next proposed the adoption of the
report, and confirmation of the accounts.
Major COURT moved an amendment negativing the
latter part of the motion, but he found no seconder, and
it consequently fell to the ground, and the original motion
was carried almost unanimously, the mover of the amend-
ment being the only dissentient.
The retiring directors, Major Tyndale and Mr. Duff,
were then re-elected.

Major COURT moved that the number of auditors be
reduced to one, and the salary to 301. per annum.
The CHAIRMAN said the meeting could not entertain
the first part of the motion, inasmuch as the Act of Par-
liament required two auditors.
The motion was therefore not persevered in.

Mr. Norbury was then appointed an auditor.
A cordial vote of thanks was then passed to Mr. Pato
for the zeal and attention which he had always devoted
to the interests of the company.
Mr. Ps TO briefly acknowledged the compliment, and
communicated a piece of information to the meeting
which, he thought, was exceedingly gratifying. A num-
ber of gentlemen had recently associated themselves to-
gether under the style and title of the Northern Steam
Packet Company, for the purpose of cultivating
the trade north of the TexaL The first steam-
vessel of 500 tons and 200 horse-power would
sail from Lowestoft on Saturday next, while a second
steamer was being built in the Clyde, which would be
capable of carrying 300 bead of cattle, 500 sheep, and
500 pigs , These gentlemen had also arranged with the
King of Denmark for carrying the mails and developing
the cattle traffic of that country, and the 400 or
500 head of sheep and pigs which this would bring upon
their line would more than compensate them for the de-
ficiency which might be occasioned by the abstraction of
other companies.
Thanks were then voted to the Chairman, and the
meeting terminated.

SOUTH WALES AND GREAT

WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANIES.

A large shareholder in the South Wales Company,
upon data submitted by him to Mr. J. A. Franklin, the
professional auditor and accountant, has obtained the
following computations:—
It is understood that the directors of these two com-
panies have made a preliminary contract, substituting
for the existing guarantee of 5 per cent. payable by the
Great Western Company, graduated payments as fol-
lows, receiving in exchange one-third of the net profits
upon the South Wales line, via.:-1. When Swansea is
connected with Gloucester, 30,5001. per annum. 2. On
extension to Carmarthen,' 38,5001. per annum. 3. On
extension to Milford, &c., 46,0001. per annum. Hence
the computations given below.
Estimates of profits and dividends upon the railway
from Swansea to Gloucester Junction, assuming the fol-
lowing data:—Mileage, 105; debentures, 500,0001., at 5
per cent.; maintenance of way and contingencies, 1001.
per mile per annum; management and charges, 5,000/.
per annum; share capital, 2,500,000/.
Every 1,2501. per annum saved in any of the fore-
going items of expenditure will increase the dividend
One shilling per cent.
If the share capital claiming dividend be 250,000/.
less, the dividend will be one-ninth greater.

' Illre of Stock and
Gross Traffic working expenses Amount of DlTidend per
per Week. per conseeutlyo two-thirds cent.
1,0001. traffic. of Profit.
E. £.
1,000 5B per cent.* ... ... ..... .473
1,000 ........50 „ 4,894 ........ 1'425
1,000
0 1,000
* The published balance sheet gives this item 58 per
cent. upon the first 1,000/. per week; the estimate as-
sumes a reduction to 50 per cent. on the second 1,0001.,
to 45 per cent. on the third 1,000/, and so on.
Rough estimate of the comparative minima guaranteed
by the Great Western Company, say in June, 1853:-
Ist EXISTING CONTRACT.—Upon each 501. ca-
pital (one share) from completion of the un-
dertaking, 5 per cent. in perpetuity, Pay par £5O
Add claims for arrears of interest during construc-
tion:—
4 per cent. from June, 1849, to June, 1851 ... 2'408
Ditto ditto, 1851, ditto, 1853 .•• 4'
Promised equivalent for increase of interest
during construction to 5 per cent. ... •••1'602

£580,1

SECOND PROPOSEDCONTBACT.-45,0001. per an-
num, instead of 200,0004 per annum in per-
petuity,

of 50L.
from completion, say 45,000
£ 11.25
200,000
Say one year's proportion of 30,000/. rent, on
three-fourths of 4.000,0001. ..................... 0.5
Ditto ditto of 38,0001. ditto 13-16ths ditto"... 0.585

X 12.335
The proposed contract represents the liability of the
Great Western Company, offered in exchange for the
existing liability, leaving the difference contingent upon
the success of the South Wales system when completed.

Tns ESSEX MURDEREE.—Drory left a document
in his own handwriting, addressed to the High Sheriff of
Essex, and dated Monday, March 24. It states that for the
grievous and dreadful offence for which Coulson took him
into custody, he acknowledged that he was justly convicted;
that he was about to forfeit his life according to law as an
example, he hoped and trusted, to deter others from com-
mitting so wicked and horrid a crime ; and he prayed God
that it might have that effect, and that his poor and un-
fortunate victim, that he so barbarously and maliciously
deprived of life, was now in heaven at rest, for with God all
things were possible; and might the Lord, in his goodness,
have mercy on his soul. His bumble petition and request
was that he (the Sheriff) would order, if possible, that the
money (81. lls. 4d.) that was found on his person, and taken
from him by Mr. Coulson, be given over to the poor un-
fortunate deceased's mother, Louisa Last, of Doddinghurst,
as part restitution for the grievous injury he had done her,
as he desired to die in peace with all mankind; and this
would greatly oblige him, the unfortunate criminal.
HORRIBLE DEATH.—A few days ago an elderly
man, named Joseph Shaw, met with a shocking death at the
Greenside mines, near Penrith, Cumberland. It appears that
the smelting-mill had not been in use since Chrismas last, at
which period it sustained considerable damage by the floods
which then prevailed ; amongst other things, the reservoir
being totally washed away. The reservoir has since been
rebuilt, and such other repairs done as had been rendered ne-
cessary. Shaw, the person referred to, was engaged in put
ting the machinery forward again, but, finding it not work
properly, he commenced an examination into the cause.
While doing so he, unfortunately, approached too near the
small wheels, and his clothes becoming entangled in them,
he was drawn into the machinery, and literally torn to pieces
in less than a minute. He has left a widow and seven chil-
dren to lament hie melancholy death.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, March 27.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool-
sack at Five o'clock.
COUNTY COURTS. _

The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented several peti-
tions against Papal aggression from places in Notting-
hamshire ; also a petition praying fur a further exten-
sion
.of the jurisdiction of county courts to Chancery
cases.
Lord BROUGHAM supported the prayer of the peti-
tion, inasmuch as the present constitution of the Court
of Chancery amounted to an absolute denial of justice
in cases in which the amount of litigation was less than
5001 He intended on Monday to introduce a Bill au-
thorising the county courts to interfere in cases which
really could not go before the Court of Chancery.
Lord LYNDHURST had, by the orders which he
had issued, saved the suitors in Chancery 50,000 i. a year.

Lord BROUGHAM could bear testimony to the suc-
cess of the exertions of his Noble and Learned Friend
in the diminution of the eoutt fees.
FOREIGN REFUGEES.

Lord LYNDHUTtS-I.lrOst7tc; draw the attention of
their Lordships to what he called the reprehensible con-
duct of certain foreigners in this country. This country
had always extended hospitality to foreign refugees, but
it was the duty of those refugees to abstain from any
hostile aggressions against foreign powers. There was
in this city an association styling themselves the Central
National Italian Committee, composed of persons expelled
from Rome after the insurrection. These persons had
opened a loan in this country for the purpose of carrying
into execution their pernicious designs of establishing a
Republic in Italy, and they issued shares for this purpose,
signed by Mazrlni and other persons. It was quite obvious
that this was a breach of the obligation they incurred
when they came here to seek protection from our
laws. He was not so weak as to imagine that
much money would be raised for this loan in this coun-
try, but he believed money had been raised on this loan
in Paris and in Italy. It was certain this loan was ad-
vertised in this country, and he called the attention of
the Government to 'the subject ; and the tolerance of
these proceedings could not but draw upon us
the suspicions of foreign Governments. In ad-
dition to this society there was another,
styling itself the Central Democratic European
Committee. It was formed for the avowed purpose
of exciting insurrection in Europe, and had ad-
dressed a proclamation to its partizans exciting them to
insurrection; in that insurrection they procured the zeal
of the insurgents at Vienna and Milan, and the parties to
this proclamation were Mazzini, Ledru Rollin, who as
soon as he came to this country attacked the eountry
which had afforded him hospitality in the most
malignant terms, and also other persons well known in
the Polish and German insurrections. There was also
another committee to which ho wished to draw attention,
it was the Central Committee of Hungarian Refu-
gees, at the head of this committee was an offi-
cer named Klapka, who, at the conclusion of the
Hungarian war, commanded at: Comorn. That
committee had addressed the Hungarian soldiers
in Italy in the most shocking terms, endeavouring to
induce those soldiers to rebel against Austria. Several
of those persons had insulted the house of Austria in the
most atrocious manner.—(Hear, hear.) Ha was sure
the Government must be most anxious to put
an end to these unwarrantable proceedings.
What remonstrances may have been used en the
part of the Austrian Government must be best known to
the members of that Government themselves; but he de-
sired to know what steps they intended to adopt to put
a stop to this scandal. He should recommend the renewal
of the Act which was allowed to expire last year. If the
Government were armed with the power they had under
that Act the knowledge of that fact would be sufficient
to put a stop to their proceedings. He made these ob-
servations with no unfriendly feeling to the Government;
his only object was to point out the best mode of pre-
serving unimpaired the obligations which we had entered
into with foreign countries.
Earl GREY regretted that he had not been aware of
the intention of the Noble and Learned Lord to bring
this subject before the House. Had he been so, he
would have placed himself in communication with
his Noble Friend the Secretary for the Foreign
Department, and his Right Honourable Priced
the Secretary for the Home Department, whose
attention he knew had been directed to the subject, and
who were anxiously watching their proceedings. He
understood the Noble Lord considered that there was no
remedy except the renewal of ►he Act of 1848, but he
would remind their Lordships that these powers
were asked for and granted solely to ensure the
safety of this country, and that for no other purpose
should that power bo exercised. As to whether those
powers should be exercised for any other purpose he
would not now express an opinion; but he would say
that nothing but the most flagrant and urgent necessity
would justify the Parliament in granting, or the Go-
vernment in accepting, such additional powers.
Lord LYNDHURST was satisfied with the explana-
tion.
The Earl of ABERDEEN thought the Noble Earl
ought to have expressed his disapprobation of these
proceedings, because out of doors great doubt was
entertained on the subject. It would be satisfactory
to the different powers of Europe to have a declaration
of disapprobation from this Government.
Earl GREY felt humiliated in being called on in that
manner by the Noble Earl.—(Loud cheers.) It was
clear that strangers accepting refuge in this countryhad no
right to abuse that hospitality for purposes sueh as that
alluded to by the Noble and Learned Lord, and he
thought that when he said the attention of his Noble and
Right Hon. Friend had been directed to the subject that
their Lordships would understand that the Government
distinctly disapproved of the proceedings to which the
Noble and Learned Lord had alluded.
THE CENSUS.

The Bishop of OXFORD presented a petition from a body
of clergymen in the diocese of Oxford, complaining of their
being called upon to answer certain questions contained in
the papers issued from the Registrar-General's office, in con-
nexion with the census. The questions referred to the num-
ber of persons attending churches, the number of scholars
attending national and Sunday schools, and other points of
a similar nature. The petitioners objected to these queries
being issued-1, because replies would fail to be made to
them in many instances; 2, because any replies which might
be made must necessarily be vague and incorrect ;
3, because the general result must be conducive to
the propagation of error rather than truth; 4, be-
cause the incorrect information thus obtained would
be made available to the prejudice of the great
interests over which the ministers of the Church were bound
to watch. The returns of the census must be sent in by
Monday next, and therefore no time should be lost in con-
veying to the clergy an indication of the opinion of that
House as to whether they should reply to the queries which
had been put to them or not. An opportunity had been af-
forded him of consulting many of his brother prelates on this
subject, and they were unanimously of opinion that the
effect of answering the queries would be what the petitioners
stated. The subject was alluded to in their Lordships'
House a few days since; and, in consequence of what passed
on that occasion, another paper had been issued from the
Registrar-General's office, stating that no person was bound
under a penalty to answer the queries objected to. It ap-
peared to him, however, that this was not all that should
be done. It was necessary to intimate that answers to the
queries were not expected at all. Mr. Canning once ob-
served that nothing was so fallacious as facts except sta-
tistics. if that remark were true, generally, how much more
closely would it apply to such garbled stat►stics as must be
obtained in answer to the proposed queries. Authentic in-
formation was only attainable when demanded under a pe-
nalty. Under these circumstances, he hoped that Ministers
would intimate that answers to the objectionable queries
would not now be insisted on, and, if the information sought
for should continue to be thought requisite, an enactment
might be passed previously to the taking of the next census
which would render it imperative on clergymen and others
to answer the queries intended to elicit it. If consulted by
the clergy of his diocese as to the course they ought to pur-
sue, he should be inclined to advise them not to answer the
queries, and yet he was unwilling to place himself in an an-
tagonistic position towards the Government in this matter,
and to seem desirous of thwarting efforts which could only
originate in good intentions.

Earl GRANVILLE believed that the public expectation
would be disappointed if the Government were not to attempt
to obtain statistical information respecting spiritual and
secular education. At the same time it had been thought
right that the public should be distinctly informed that
replies to the queries could not be enforced by any legal
obligation. Beyond that point the Government did not
feel justified in going. One observation only he would
make in reference to what had fallen from the Right Rev.
Prelate, namely, that if all other bodies of persons in the
State, except the clergy, returned the information which was
required from them, it would not redound to the credit of the
latter.

The Bishop of SALISBURY said there was no objec-
tion on the part of the clergy to give the fullest informa-
tion in their power upon any matter which came under
their supervision ; but they alleged, and he thought truly,
that returns which it was left to the voluntary act of indivi-
duals to make or withhold could never present results upon
which any dependence could be placed. It was certain that
in so large a body as the clergy a considerable number would
object to make the returns called for, and he confessed
that he participated in the objection. The result would
be, that only inaccurate and partial information would be
obtained.

Earl FITZ WILLIAM was understood to say, that clergy-
men ought not to be called upon to state the number of per-
sons attending their churches, that being a point on which it
would be batter for them to be ignorant than well-informed
in some cases.

A RIGHT REY. PRELATE ( whose title was not known in
the gallery) also expressed his objection to the manner
adopted for obtaining the information sought for.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE said that the ministers
of the Church of Scotland once voluntarily returned answers
to similar queries submitted to them by Sir J. Sinclair.
The Bishop of OXFORD remarked, that in the case re-
ferred to by the Noble Marquis there were no conflicting
In-
terests to prevent the return of correct information.
..11
England the case was different, and prejudices existed whiph
were likely to mislead those who were called upon to give in-
formation.

THE PAPAL AGGRESSION.
Earl FITZWILLIAM, having presented some petitions
against Papal aggression, gave notice that be would to-mor-
row present more peltions of a like nature, and would take
that opportunity of making some observations which seemed
to be called for by the present state of the attempt to legis-
late on the subject.
Lord BROUGHAM would beg his Noble Friend—only
that he knew it would be vain to do so —not to carry his
threat into execution. He had well hoped—as they said in
would only cause assure
Chancery—that their Lordships would have got over the
time until after the Easter recess in a Sort of quiet—he was
afraid only a tetnporary quiet respecting this subject. Any-
thing more hateful to him than the whole controversy which
had been going on for weeks, if not for months, he had never
) He could
known, and he should fail in attempting to describe how
deeply he aufiered from it. He had derived some consolation
from the prospect of an intermission of the controversy until
after Easter, and therefore he would entreat his Noble
Friend not to mar his hopes, if he did not know that it
was more difficult to prevail upon his Noble Friend than
hisal m oNsot b
lanye F
roi
et hneir_pt person.—(
to persist more firmly in his intention—that the whole II him
prayed for a respite, as regarded this question, until after°use
h.—though
e al areudglilt.
the
Easter recess,
.and, if his Noble Friend would conotit to

appoint any time for addressing their Lordships
after that period, he would promise that he should have
the whole night to himself without any interference from
him.—(A laugh.)
Lord WO DELIOUSE presented a petition against Papal
aggression.
Lord BEDESDALE presented a petition in favour of ex-
tending the jurisdiction of county courts.
Tho report on the County Courts Extension Bill was
brought up.
Lord BEAUMONT suggested that the Bill should be re-
committed.
Lord BROUGHAM had no objection to the recommittal of
the Bill when it should have been reprinted.
The Bill was then ordered to be reprinted, as amended, and
to be recommitted.
AD MINISTRATION OF CHARITIES IN ENGLAND, &c.
The Bishop of OXFORD stated that he had given notice
to her Majesty's Government of a question touching a very
important subject, namely, whether they intended, and when,
to bring in a measure for securing the due administration of
charities in England and Wales. Since he had entered the
House he had been shown a draught of a Bill which it was
intended to introduce into this House, for the purpose of re-
gulating charitable trusts ; and he wished to know at what
period of the session the Government would bring forward
the measure?
The LORD CHANCELLOR replied that the Bill would
be introduced within a week from the present time.
Certain returns relating to licences and registrations under
the Catholic Relief Act of 1829 were ordered, on the motion
of the Earl of WINCHILSEA.
Theia Lordships then adjourned.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, March 27.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
NEW MEMBER.

Mr. PONSONDY, the now ➢Member for Dungarvon, tock
the oaths and his seat.

METROPOLITAN SEWERS COMPANY.

Mr. Alexander Greig appeared at the bar of the House,
and presented the accounts of the Metropolitan Sewers
Company.
THIRD READINGS.

The following Bills were then read a third time:—
Dewsbury Gas—Downham Market, &c., Drainage—
Laird's Patent—Millthrop and Levens Turnpike Road—
Newington St. Mary Parish—Reading Cemetery Com-
pany—Whitby Waterworks—Scarborough Gas.
PETITIONS.
Petitions were presented against the returns for Ayles•
bury and St. Alban's, which were referred to the Com-
mittee on Elections.
A great number of petitions were presented' against
Papal aggression.
Colonel LLOYD WATKINS presented a petition
from the members of the congregation of Wesleyan
Methodists, in the town of flay, expressing their indig-
nation at the recent Papal aggression, and praying that
the most stringent measures may be adopted for repel-
ling it, and that the recovery of penalties to be attached
to such offences may not be dependent on the sole dis-
cretion of the law officers of the Crown.
Mr. COWAN presented a petition from Edinburgh,
praying that the Bill now before the House, for extend-
ing the franchise in counties, be extended to Scotland.
A number of petitions were also presented against the
Ecclesiastical Titles Bill.
Mr. AGLIONBY presently petitions from different
places in Middlesex praying for a compulsive enfran-
chisement of copybolds.
Sir DE LACY EVANS presented several petitions
from Westminster in favour of the Sunday Trading Bill.
Sir B. HALL presented a petition from Marylebono
against the same Bill.
NEW WRIT.
Mr. R. PALMER moved for a new writ for the county
of Somerset, in the place of Sir A. Hood, deceased.
HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY FOR DEMERARA.
Mr. HUME, in presenting a petition from 6,31,1 i inha-
bitants of Demerara, agreed to ou the 9th of NoVember
last, and praying for an Elective Council and House of
Assembly, with extension of the suffrage to give a full,
free, and direct popular representation, read several ex-
tracts from the document in order to show that the peti-
tioners had been arbitrarily deprived of representative
government, and the effect of that deprivation was
to largely increase the island's expenses. Having
moved that the petition, which was guaranteed as to its
validity by the residents in the several parishes, be
printed, the lion. Gentleman stated that when the
printed copy was in the hands of Members he should
found a motion upon it, which he would bring onion an
early day.
Mr. T. BARING presented a petition, numerously
signed by the shipowners of Groat Britain, complaining
of the difference between the duties levied on British
ships in Spanish ports, and Spanish ships in British
ports, and stating that under present circumstances
British vessels were unable to compete with Spanish ves-
sels for freight.
Mr. Packe, Mr. Thornely, Mr. Lockhart, and several
other Members presented a number of petitions against
the Papal aggression.
Mr. %V. FAGAN presented petitions from Cork and
Kinsale, praying for the abolition of ministers' money.

NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mr. REYNOLDS gave notice that to-morrow be
should ask the First Lord of the Treasury at what period
of the present session he proposed to introduce a Bill for
the abolition of ministers' money in Ireland.
Lord NAAS gave notice that, on the first possible
day after Easter, he should renew his motion of last year
with regard to the spirit duties.
Mr. STUART gave notice that to-morrow he should
move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the Act for
abbreviating Acts of Parliament.
Mr. GRANTLEY BERKELEY gave notice that on
an early day after Easter he should move that the pre-
sent differential duties imposed on all foreign grown
sugar imported for home consumption shall be conti-
nued for five years from the month of July, 1851.
COPPER COINAGE OF IRELAND. _

Mr. PAGAN said the copper coinage of Ireland was
very much worn and depreciated, so much so indeed, that
in the south of Ireland the manufacturers bad been com-
pelled to adopt a copper medium of their own, and he
wished therefore to know whether it was the intention of
Government to order a new coinage ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, as
he had only received notice of the llon. Gentleman's
question within the last half-hour he was not in a posi-
tion to give a direct answer to it. He had never heard
before that the coinage of Ireland was in a depre-
ciated state, nor had he received any com-
plaints on the subject. If it were true, as
the Honourable Gentleman stated, that parties were
manufacturing money on their own account, be need only
remind him that they rendered themselves amenable to
the law.

DISTURBANCE IN THE COUNTY OF DOWN.
Mr. ROCHE wished to put a question to the Secre-
tary for Ireland with reference to an occurrence which
had lately taken place in the county of Down.
It appeared that a gentleman residing at Banbridge hav-
ing occasion to take proceedings against some defaults
ing tenants, took with him a sheriff, together with one
policeman and one bailiff, for the purpose of accom-
plishing his object. On reaching the spot the people
rose en masse ; they were all armed, and several
shots were deliberately fired. The one police-
man and the one bailiff, thinking discretion the
better part of valour, speedily eloped, leaving the gen-
tlemen arel sheriff at the mercy of the people.—(A
laugh.) Now he wished to knew whether the repute
which had gone abroad on the subject was correct, and
whether the Right Hon. Gentleman had receivee any
eommunicatiun relative to it from Ireland? He thought
that a process against tenants should nut be issued by
the sheriff without taking with him a sufficient
force to overawe the misguided populace.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he had received a report
from the constabulary with reference to the trausect.eni
which he believed had happened at the place slim'e d to
by the Hon. Gentleman; but these reports wtereogtehesed-
rally of a confidential character. He had
time to look into the report, but if be founhdanat°ni,oyi3a_ret of
it of a nature wnich he could lay beforeatb_e. us
would have no objection to lay it on Owl:.
IMPOSITION BY THE AMERIC
TURE OF PROTECTIVE DUTIES
NOIsEIGRIOSNL.A-
Mr. BOOKER asked the President d oarnythietifoßromaurtdiocnf
Trade if the Government had re.
and if they would lay it before
and extent of increase in the protective
thceetlius ed. uotfies theproposede
her articles of British
to be levied on the import into the United States of all
kinds of iron, and on various ot
exempt from duty ?
produce and inanafacturesd new
been passed by the Legis-
He believed a resolution 11
m i city of 127 to 54, imposing
lathe Assembly, by a —9-9,°rticles which had been
duties on on iron and othe_ruty,
and as this was a staaset
viously exempted fromto d
the commercial community, he
of great importanceo
hoped the Right lloo.esGtieonnt.Lem(Haleiazuld have no objec-
tion to answer bie!,(l,,,RE replied that the Government
Mr. LABOUUsise ispatch from Sir B. Bulwer since
bad not receiv,ecdotaonsyrirc:
the day on which the accounts
the 26th of I.he newspapers alleged the resolution in
published in
have
h been passed, and therefore he was not
question to.
of official information to enable him to give
in possession
an
answer to the lion. Gentlemen's question.
BORNEO, SARAWAK, AND LABUAN.
Mr. le
„st-TA jes, asked Lord Palmerston, whether Sir
Jam©s
Brooke still held the appointments of her Ma-
jesty's Commissioner and Consul-General to the Sultan
anclindependentchiefs of Borneo?
Lord pALMERSTON said ho still hold that appoint-
ment.
Air. HUME also asked the Under-Secretary for the
colonies, whether Sir James Brooke still held the ap-
pointment of Governor of Labuan?
Mr. HAWES replied in the affirmative.
Mr. HUME also asked Lord Palmerston whether he
had any official information that the President of the
United States, through Mr. Ba.lestier, a special envoy,
had recognised Raja Brooke as the independent Sove-
reign of Sarawak, and whether the territory of Sarawak
had ever been acknowledged as an independent state by
her Majesty's Government, or in what view the territory
of Sarawak was to be considered by British or foreign
subjects?
Lord PALIIERSTON said, it appeared from the
information he had received from Sir J. Brooke that a
proposal was made to him on the part of the President
of the United States for a treaty of commerce between
the United States and Sarawak, but that treaty had not
yet been concluded, Sir J. Brooke waiting, as he be-
lieved, until his arrival in England, when ho would
consult her Majesty's Government on the subject.
With regard to the government of Sarawak, the British
Government bad no knowledge of the relations existing
between Sir James Brooke and the Sultan ef Boineo,
but this be could state, that as far as the British Go-
vernment was concerned itwas an independent state, and
this country had no claim upon it.
THE CENSUS FOR 1851.

Mr. GOULBURN wished to ask the Right Hon. BE.
ronet the Home Secretary, whether he would give an
assurance that, in the cases of clergymen who refused to
answer the questions as to tithes and income contained
in the papers issued for the taking of the census, Govern-
ment would not seek for the information from other
quarters.