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On the motion for the third reading of this bill,
The Marquis of WESTMEA.TH, while agreeing that
this was a very good bill, objected to the ninth clause,
which he said was a libel on the magistracy of Ireland.
He moved that the ninth clause be expunged.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE bore testimony to
the high character of the Irish magistracy, but their
high character was no reason why they should not take
precautions against the abuse of power which with ma-
gistrates, as with any body else, would sometimes occur.
Lord CAMPBELL observed that it was unlawful for
any judge to adjudicate in his own cause, and if any ma-
gistrate in Ireland, or elsewhere, decided a case in which
he was personally interested, he would be guilty of a
misdemeanour, and might be punished. Such a prohibi-
tion, therefore, in this bill was unnecessary as regarded
principals. At the same time he thought itdosirable that
agents who were magistrates should be disqualified.
Viscount DUNGANNON supported the amendment.
Toe Earl of DONOUHMORE urged the necessity
of passing. the bill as it stood.
The Earl of WICKLOW hoped the amendment would
not be withdrawn.
Lord DENMAN would vote for the amendment.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH intimated an inten-
tion of pressing his amendment to a division.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE proposed an
amendment to the clauiv, so as to make the &squall&
tion applicable only to the agent of the landlord.
Lord REDESDALE thought the amendment too
important to be introduced without notice after the
third reading of the bill, and recommended that the dis-
cussion be postponed, and that In the mean time the
proposed amendment be printed.
The LORD CHANCELLOR advocated the amend-
ment proposed by the Marquis'of Clanricarde.
Viscount DUNGANNON did not see why a stigma
should be cast upon agents who happened to be in the
commission of the peace any more than on the landlord.
The Duke of RICHMOND would vote for the rejec-
tion of the clause.
Atter some further conversation, the Marquis of
Clanricarde s amendment was adopted, and their I,rd-
ships divided upon the question that' the clause, as
emended, stand part of the bill
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Non-contents l3
Majority
—l2
The bill then passed.
THE COURT OF EXCHEQUER (SCOTLAND)
BILL.
This bill was read a third time anl passed.
The Militia Ballot Suspension Bill, and the Grand
Juries (Ireland) Bill, severally passed through corn-
tnittee.

CHARITIES BILL.
This bill passed ehrougb committee.
CHURCH BUILDING COMMISSIONS BILL.
On the motion forethe second reading of this bill,
Lord PORTMAN expressed his satisfaction thati' one
of these commissions was coming to an end. He should,
next year, introduce a bill to consolidate the whole of
the lawa on the subject.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that they were at
that moment before the Statute Law Commission, with
a view to their consolidation.
DULWICEI COLLEGE BILL.
This bill passed through cominittee.
BISHOPRICS OF LOND tN AND DURHAM.
The LORD CHANCELLOR asked leave to introduce
a bill, the object of which was, he said, to enable two
distinguished members of the right rev. bench, whose
health rendered it unlikely that they could continue to
perform their episcopal duties, tit retire, due provision
being made for suitable retiring allowances. He alluded
to the Bishops of London and Durham, who had both
signified their assent to such a measure, and therefore he
asked leave to have the bill read a first time, proposing
to fix the second reading for to-morrow (this day).
Lord REDESDALE said that this was a question
that required careful consideratiori. A general measure
embodying the principle would be very desirable, but the
policy of legislating for two geese only was in his opinion
very questionable. They would by this bill establish a
precedent, so that every time a bishop wished to retire,
it would require a special act for the purpose. In his
opinion this was a subject for general not special legisla-
tion, and should have been brought forward at an earlier
period of the session.
The Emil of HARROWBY said that this would not
interfere with a general bill, aid it was called far by an
immediate and pressing necessity.
Lord CAMPBELL said he trusted that before long
the prelates would be put in the seine position as the
judge.; of the land—that was to say, would have the
privilege of retiring on a suitable allowance when no
longer able to perform episcopal duties. Today down a
general rule on the subject would require a great deal of
consideration, and as a friend of the Church he should
eejoice to see such a measure brought forward ; but
th ere was an urgency in the present case, and the man-
ner is which the two prelat,s had come forward and re-
! gee, 'ieed permission to retire must increase the estima-
tion ; IT, which they had before been held by the whole
coven He did not think that because there was
not t „miter a general measure they should be obstructed
in so praiseweTthy a proceeding, and therefore he trusted
that the present bill would be adopted by the house.
L in! REDESDA.LE thought that time should be
before the second reading.
give, ►fee t-onsideration
L irf DEN NI AN r) ported the bill.
T: is LORD CHANCELLOR hoped that the house
won Id I ,ot const-at to postpone the second reading, as
upor i tl is; stage t. ere would be ample opportunity for
disc ei sei on. There were pecteiar facilities in this case,
as ' ,h e. I eishops of London and Durham could be provided
wi tee eet iriree peneions without trenching on any fund.
Lord DU'SGANNON deprecated the precedent, and
aoeort, d• he neeien far de'ay.
The of po would refer baying the second
reading' 'taken on Nlonday. -
Lord REDESDA.LE -aid he should certainly divide
the hon se, if it was proposed to take the second reading
on tl. to I 'ollowing day. There were many noble lords

PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OP LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
The LORD,!CIiANCELLOR tOok his seat on the woolsack
at five o'ciock. _

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SALE OF POISONS:
Lord CAMPBELL asked whether it was tlieinten-
tion of the Goes.' renent to introduce a bill to regulate
the sale of poisons ? He thought that a new law was
imperatively called for to regulate the sale of poisons.
He would not revert to a recent case, which had occu-
pied a great deal of attention. Independently of that
ease, he was shocked that the crime of poisoning had
become alarmingly on the increase. The secrecy of the
crime had, he thought, fed to its frequency. That
crime was not committed so much for the gratification
of revenge as for the love of pelf—the desire of gain. An-
other inducement for the commission of the crime was the
establishment of assurance companies. He Lad himself
heard of a cave in which an assurance on life was made
for the purpose of committing murder, and murder
had subsequently been committed as the consum-
mation of an insurance. Some years ago arsenic
might have been purchased as easily as Epsom
salts, and the , consequence was that - poisoning
by arsenic became alarmingly frequent. Indeed, there
was a WOinallliving in Essex, who was considered
such an adept in practisieg poisons, that she
was 'called' " Sally Arsenic" A law was bows
n ever passed, which placed a great limitation
en the sale of that poison, which bad the effect of
checking the commission of the crime. Poisoning by
arsenic bad gene out of fashion, and the mode now pur-
sued was to administer nue vomica, which was purchased
in pennyworths, on the plea that it was to poison rats.
Lord RAVENSWORTH hoped something would be
done to place those assurance companies under such
regulations as would have the effect of dis-
covering those dreadful crimes. (Hear, hear.)
He suggested that when certain insurances were
effected the respective secretaries should be empowered
to inform the Secretary of State for the House Depart.
ment in order that the authorities might have their par-
ticular attention directed to the sutipected parties.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said five years' ago the
subjec was under the consideration of the Government,
and the result was the measure . alluded to by the noble
and learned lord, the limitation of the sale of arsenic.
The measure only referred to the sale of arsenic, because
it was felt there was a difficulty in defining the different
sorts of poison. Some of the most eminent medical men
of the metropolis had been consulted on the subject,
and they were afraid that a, bill detailing the various
poisons might have an injurious effect, by informing
evil disposed persons of the many: ways of committing
murder. He did not see why etrychnine -shotild not be
included in the tame category as arsenic. • l(Hear,
hear.) He was authorised to state that the' subject
was under the serious attention of the Government.
MUTINY OF THE MILITIA AT NENAGH.
In reply to the Earl of DONOUGHIfORE,
Lord PANMURE said he had received 'a private
letter front the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland stating
that a riot had taken place within the last
two or three days at Nenagh, in which the
militia and the regular troops were engaged, The
riot had arisen ie coueeveace of some misunderstand.
ing on the part of the militia. No misunderstanding could
justify the course that bad been taken by that body. Net
having as yet received the particulars, he trusted that
the public would suspend their judgment until the
whole of the facts of the case Lad been received.
DAVIDSON'S DIVORCE BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
LABOURERS' DWELLINGS BILL.
This hill wes read a second time.
DRAINAGE ACTS AMENDMENT BILL.
This hilt was reed a third time and passed.
ALDERSHOT CAMP BILL.
On the motion of Lerd PAN.IeIURE this bill'passed
thr ugh c
PROCEDURE BEFORE JUSTICES (SCOTLAND)
BILL.
The Commons amendments' to this bill were consi-
dered and agreed to.
TURNPIKE ACT CONTINUANCE BILL.
On the in.etioil of Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY
this bill passed through committee.
ADVOWSONS BILL.
This bill, on the motion of Lord SHAFTESBIJRY,
also passed through committee.
INTESTATES ESTATE, BILL.
This bill, on the motion of Earl FORTESCUE, also
passed through committee.
DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill was reported with amendments.
DISTILLATION FROM RICE BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
IeWELLINGS FOR LABOURING CLASSES
(IRE LAND) BILL.
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JULY it Me.

who took an itterect in the totolon who micht be abbeut
if the second reading were taken without sufHcient notice.
After some further conversation the bill was read a
first time, and the second rPa.dink fixe3 for Monday nest.
CONSOLIDATION OF THE LAW.
The LORD CHANCELLOR. announced that he
should speedily lay on- the table nine billy lOr_th-i3 -c2nsol
dation of the criminal :statutes; which bad .bees prepare)
by Lord Wensleyda!e, Lord Ohief Justice Jervis, Mr.
Grey, and Mr. Bellenden Ker.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The Speaker took the chair at 12 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Butterworth Estate Bill was read a third time.
VACCINATION BILL.
On the motion for reading the orders of the day, a
discussion took place relative to the position of the
Marquis of Blandfurd's Formation of Parishes Bill on
the paper, and the noble marquis asked that it should be
restored to its proper place at the head of the list. It
was ultimately arranged that the orders should be pro-
ceeded with as they stood in the list.
Mr. COWPER addressed the house relative to
the course he should pursue with re=pect to the.
Vaccination Bill. He said that already they bad
had considerable legislation on the sulsject, three
acts being now on the statute book. It was
generally admitted that tlfe legislation on this sub-
ject-hal hitherto been unsatisfactory, and it was felt that
the present law from its defects could not continue, and
be bad been induced in consequence to deal with the
subject. The present law provided that public vaccine-
tore should be appointed throughout the country, but
no provision was made for the appointment of persons
competent adequately to discharge these duties. The
country was unequally divided into districts, the system
of registration was defective, and the remuneration to
the medical officers was not sufficient. One scheme
propounded some time since for altering the defects
complained of was, that the Board of Health should
take under its care the management of vaccination, but
to that he objected, for although cenneetssl with the
Government by virtue of the office he held, he was op-
posed to centralisation (hear, hear) and was desirous that
local self-government shou'd be continued. (Hear,
hear.) The question was, how to legislate on this sub-
ject, and hut two ways only presented themselves—one
was to make the present law efficient or enacting a fresh
one, and, after consideration, he was of opinion it was
better to adopt the latter course. He proposed, amongst
other alterations by this bill, that praetitioners soliciting
appointments as public vaccinators should show their
qualification for the office, from having attended the
6mall-pox Hospital or otherwise studied and had experi-
ence of the disease, and be properly recommended. He
also proposed to alter the vaccinating districts, and to
adopt the existing registration districts. Hw had pre-
pared a scheme for registration which, he thought, would
have been 'found successful, and it would have been
compulsory on the part of the registrar to matte a return
of the children vaccinated to the Board of. Guardians,
who should give notice to the people and warn them
against neglecting vaccination ; and where it was found
necessary to proceed agaisisS. parents tor neglecting it,
the expenses of the prosecutions should be paid out of
the poor rates. The right hons gentleman next referred
to what were called the compulsory clauses of the bill,
to which so much opposition ha I been raised, and after
reminding the house that the compulesry clauses were
not introduced merely to compel persons to do a certain
thing for themselves, but as a precaetion against the
spread of one of the most contagious diseases that
existed, and a protection to the public, he said
frora returns furnished in. connection with the
Small-pox Hospital he found that the mortality,
from that disease, without vaccination, amounted
to one in three or four. After some further remarks,
he moved that the ord, r for going into committee on
this bill be discharged, and the bill withdrawn. (Hear,
hear.)
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE concurred in the course pur-
sued by the Government, and suggested that the subject
should be further investigated by a select committee
before legislation was attempted.
After some remarks from Mr. Henley, Sir G. Grey,
and Dr. Michell, the latter of whom objected to vacci-
nation, and said that if small-pox were properly treated
the mortality would not be more than three per cent.
The order was diec'aareed, and the bill withdrawn.
NUISANCES REMOVAL, &c. (SCOTLAND No. 2)