The Sun.
London, England, 1834-06-11 00:00:00

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eons. Now he (Sir Edward) declared, en his
der of a lawyer, that that commission was ille-
gal—the Crown had no right to issue such a commission.
His right hon. friend had talked of a " Rutland Club."
( Groans.) He (Sir Edward) declared that if any man
would say that he was the tool of that nobleman, or of
any other party, he would tell him that it was " a
lie in his throat." (Strong confusion.) He was not
the tool of any faction. He honoured the Duke of Rut-
land, but he sought not his influence. His right hon.
friend had given his reason for not going out with Mr.
Stanley, and he ( Sir Edward) knew that the right
hon. gentleman's words would go forth to the world ;
but h© thought the right hon. gentleman's explanation
was not quite satisfactory. (Interruption.) His right
hon. friend, he thought, had misrepresented Mr. Stan-
ley when he said that that right hon. gentleman had
stated that though the church of Ireland might possess
millions of surplus revenue, that surplus should not he
meddled with. ( Cries of, "It must.") They were of
opinion that there should be an alliance between
church and state. (No, no.) The meeting should
remember that they had an Establishment, and the
question now was, whether that Establishment was to
be destroyed. (Voices, " The sooner the better.")
He maintained that there was not a body of Dissenters
in the country, whose interest it was not to maintain
the Established Church ( Hear, hear) ; and he would
tell them why—without an establishment they could
not have dissenters. Sir Edward then said, that he
much feared that if the Church should be interfered
with in the manner meditated, it would be a
struggle for power between the Dissenters and the
'Church. (Cries of " No, no," and much confusion.)
Should the Church property be broken in upon, then
the whole of the property of this great country would
not longer be considered as safe. Look, for in.
stance, to the doings of the French Revolution.
(Groans, laughter, and confusion.) Was France,
he would ask, by the spoliation of those times, made
happier or richer ? Let no man suppose that should
the Church of Ireland be interfered with, the Church
of England would escape untouched. He was for in-
quiring into the state of the revenues of the Church of
Ireland, but he was for applying the surplus,rexenne,
not to pulling it down, but to the spread and encou-
ragement of Protestantism in Ireland. He then con-
gratulated the meeting on the restoration of their good
temper, and said that what he wanted was a " clear
stage," not such a stage as his right hon. friend stood
upon the other night, when it went down undcr him.
(Much laughter.) But the Ministry to which he be-
longed was styled a lath and plaster Cabinet. (Re-
newed laughter.) He wished the meeting to turn
their attention to the speech delivered by their King
the other day, on the subject of the Church, when he
had assembled the bishops and learned prelates around
him. (Groans.) Their King was fettered by the
present Government ; and he ( Sir Edward) called
upon the people of the country to release their So-
vereign. (Cheers and laughter.) The honourable
and learned gentleman then expressed his thanks to
the ladies in a very neat and warm manner, which was
received with much cheering.
Mr. GUNNING, a friend of Mr. Rice's, then at-
tempted to address the meeting, but they were impa-
tient to have the show of hands taken.

A tremendous forest of hands was instantly held up
in favour of the right hon. gentleman, and the cheer-
ing which accompanied this display was great beyond.
description.
The Mayor then put the question as related to Sir
Edward Sugden, and the hands held up, though very
numerous, were so infinitely inferior in numbers to
those held up for Mr. Rice, that the Mayor declared
the display to be in Mr. Rice's favour.
The cheering was renewed with powerful enthu-
siasm, after which the Mayor announced that Sir Ed-
ward •Sugden's friends had demanded a poll, and
appointed nine o'clock (this morning) for the com-
mencement of it.