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DIOPPED -NOTICES.

The dropped notices of motion werere-appointed, most
of them for next session.
PATENT LAW AMENDMENT .BILL._

On the motion for re-appointing this Bi.ll until after
the other orders,
Sir B. HALL sari he should object to its beirig taken
till after the notices of motion for to-day had been dis-
posed of.
The SPEAKER said the order could be taken before
any of thn other business.
Sir B. HALL said in that case he must submit a mo-
tion to the House on the subject.
The SPEAKER ruled that the Hon. Barc.net could
not move till the other orders and notices had been dis-
posed of.
Sir B. HALL said he intended to make his motion as
an ameudent to the proposal that the Bill be postponed
until after the other orders of the day. There was
hardly an instance where a Bill of this importance, which
had come down so late from the Lords, and which had
excited so much opposition, had been pressed formard in
this manner. It was utterly impossible that it could
pass into a law in the course of the present session, un-
less the standing orders were suspended, and he hovel it
would be withdrawn at once. At all events, he objected
to this hurried mode of legislation, and he called upon
the House to support him in resisting the further pro -
gress of the Bill.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL consented to allow the Bill
to stand over until all the other business had been dis-
posed of.
The motion was then agreed to.
IRISH PARLIAMENTARY AND LAW 'REFORM.
Mr. ROCHE wished to ask Lord John Russell,
whether, looking to the fact that under the late fran-
chise law in Ireland voters in boroughs have been re-
duced nearly to eight thousand, and also to thti unequal
state of the representation in that country, he will
be prepared to t xteed his new Refoena Bill
to Ireland. Whether he will be prepared to
appoint a Commiaion to inquire into the
statute law of Ireland with a view to its amendment and
consolidation. Whether he has any objection to lay on
the table of the House a copy of any letter written by
the Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench in Ireland to the
Lord Chancellor or Attorney-General for Ireland iu re—
ference to the system of legislation for that country, and
the unsatisfactory state of the law.
Lord J. RUSSELL, in reply to the first question, re-
quested the Hun. Member to watt for an answer until
the Government mea-are wits brought in.—(A laugh.)
With regard to the second question, Government were
not prepared to appoint such a Commission; while, wit a
regard to the third question, he had no knowledge .of
any such letter having been received.
MESSAGES ro THE LORDS.
On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the fol-
lowing Committee was appointed:—
Select Committee to settle the order in which Tileme
hers shalt accompany Mr. Speaker on all occasions when
her Majesty shall command the House to attend her
Majesty in the House of Pe.,re:—Lord John Russell,
Sir Charles Wood, Sir James Graham, Mr. Henley, Mi..
Goulburn, Sir John Yards) Buller, Sir De Lacy Even e,
Mr. Bernal, Sir John Duckworth, Sir Joshua Walma-
ley, Mr. Evelyn Denison, Mr. Brotherton, Lord Marcus
Hill, and Mr. Greene; three to be the quorum.
EPISCOPAL AND CAPITULAR ESTATES bid -
_ NAGEMENT (No. 2) BILL.

On the ncotiO:&7the thiid re;:ding of this Bill,
Mr. HENLEY said the more he examined the prov.
sions of the um the more he was convinced that it woul I
not work well either for the Church or the lessees; oat +
of the necessary consequences of the Bill would be tt
give power to ecclesiastical corporations to force sur-
renders from their poorer lessees, by refusing them re-
newals, and ultima.ely he was afraid the operation of the
Bill would stop all renewals. No renewal could take
place without a surrender, and he was afraid when once a
lessee surrendered m the hope of obtaining a re-
newal, the provisions of this Bill would be put in
face to prevent the renewal. Be should, therefore, move
that the Bill be read a third time this day six months.
Col. SUSI:IIORP .
sec,nded the amendment. When-
ever measures of this tance were pressed forward
with undue haste, he always suspected that there was
some underhand work going on; and in this case he en-
tirely agreed with all that bad fallen from the lion.
Member for Oxforthhire, who had moved the amend-

meat.
air. J. A. SMITH said, the lessees as a body were
fAreittly interested io this 13111, and it was an injustice to
them to hurry it through the nous° without first giving
them a
1,0,,.., a opportunity of considering its details. He
u,fhoowever, this Bill was only a prelude to legis-
lationly,r tu.king the settlement of Church leases com-
to Pass. and in that hope only he should allow the Bill
Mr. 3.14c0"e-ii -- '
which reitaxveditLoit7arieesnsett,roe.ly satisfied with the clauses
Sir 11. J.
it left the right of OUGH3Y ohjected to the Bill because
this Bill in that re:enewal in doubt. The ambiguity of
panetpteicuttought to be cleared up before the
meLsure was
Mr. AGLIONBy into law'
holding the ecaies of justice
the Government were
beat
te beta een the lessee and the
lessor, and doing theiraiu,
a.to.secure justice and equity
to boils sides. Trio
stood, was foeluded
up=ll honest and fair intention?, ln:i'lutwat the same time he
tilt that it would ultimately he ru.ces."ary to pass a
compulsory Bill.
Mr. R. PALMER said the claims of the lessee were
neither founded upon an equitable or a legal
up
that
wn
owing to the mistnausgement of the churlght; but,
Church property,
a system of renewals had sprung
to the Crown lands of Ireland. The g common
lessees,
law, were only entitl,cl to term of tenure
specified in
in their leases ; but owing to the mismanagement to
which he had just ref,rred, the lessoes had not only be,ii
induced ~.o ruu.ko a cla-to to texiot-right, but to come to
Parliament to seek to have the claim coofirme d.
the principles of
law laid down by the Honourable aed Learned Gentle-
man who last addressed them. The lessees had a .!moral
claim to renewals which rwither law nor eqmity bait ever
attempted to override, n.nd be was gtad that it
was recognised by this BA. It Vra 3 opposed
;the law end experience of the past to s2l that
the mismanagement of a property coat not
rents suchsot far a.
rights
hadtne cases of copyholds and gt (man
of .he .arisett out of the mismanavcoent
property, which the Legislature had urtthtified