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London, England, 1851-11-07 00:00:00

[The witness proceeded to describe the conduct of
Mr. Ramshay towards Mr. Whitty, and recapitulated
the remarks applied to that gentleman by the judge,
which are already well known.]
Cross-examined—Was a subscriber to the fund for
paying for these proceedings. Subscribed 101. Did
not applaud.
Re-examined—Had no previous knowledge of Mr.
Ramshay.
Dr. Manifold deposed to having been at the court
on the day in question, and described the excited
anithhoe ugseh nte
Mr Whitty
vvllllrit. ty Whttyn he
state of Mr. Raue.hay. His teeth were set, and his
ewyaess
vsperayrkleexdcite
sparkled. ldl:he
opened his lips.
Matthew Dobson Lowndes, the solicitor at Liver-
pool concerned for Whitty, described the occurrences
at the court on the 29th of September, in terms si-
milar to those already mentioned. The witnesses
were very unfairly examined. Mr. Ramshay was
very much excited, but he understood that he was in
the habit of speaking with his teeth closed. Mr.
Ramshay was very impatient, because the officers did
not bring forward the persons who applauded, and
threatened to fine the officers for not doing so.
Cross-examined—Witness's late brother had been
the judge of the court. He had stated in a letter that
his brother had been persecuted by the Guardian So-
ciety. His late brother had wished to prosecute some
of the Liverpool papers for attacks upon him. Ms
brother was not calculated for a judge. His brother
was anxious to leave no motive or ground for the
attack upon him. Towards the close of his life he was
comparatively unattacked. Mr. Ramshay was a man
of great professional skill.
Re-examined—Was not of opinion that Mr. Ram-
shay was a good judge. Command of temper and for-
bearance was necessary. Mr. Ramshay did not possess
these qualities. His late brother was calumniated
before the court ceased to be under the control of the
corporation. Some memorials were presented against
him. Knew of no conspiracy against Mr. Ramshay.
Sir G. Stephen deposed to having been engaged
professionally in the two proceedings at the County
Court. The demeanour of the judge was very much
excited. There was nothing in the demeanour of Mr.
Whitty calculated to draw down the censure of the
judge.
Mr. J. B. Aspinall, a barrister, stated that his avo-
cations often took him to the County Court. Never
saw a judgment delivered from the bench in such an
irritated manner as that upon Mr. Whitty. In ano-
ther case the judge was very violent, and there was
no occasion whatever for his violence.
Cross-examined—Was a candidate for the office of
judge. He had not written for the Liverpool papers
for some years. Had not joined in any attacks upon
Mr. Ramshay. Was told that his Lordship had ex-
pressed a desire that professional men should come
forward at this inquiry.
Re-examined—Had been before Mr. Ramshay
considerable number of times.
James Macdonald deposed to having been in Mr.
Whitty's shop on the 27th of September. Two bai-
liffs of the County Court came in.
Another question having been put to the witness,
Mr. Sergeant *Wilkins submitted tbat Mr. Ram-
shay could not be responsible for anything done by
his officers. The judge was to presume that they had
acted properly, and if he proceeded bona fide upon
this presumption he could not be amenable to accu-
sations arising out of their conduct.
Mr. Monk and Mr. Atkinson contended that they
had a right to give edidence as to what the officers
bad done.

The Court decided upon receiving the evidence.
Mr. Macdonald was therefore called again, and de-
posed to some of the circumstances which took place
at Mr. Whitty's shop when the County Court bailiffs
went there.

[The examination of the witnesses was not con-
cluded when our report left.]

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.
PORTSMOUTH, THURSDAY.—This evening the Ports-
mouth Royal Naval Club gave a complimentary din-
ner, at the Portland Hotel, Southsea, to Admiral Sir
Thomas Briggs, G.C.M.G. (and staff), i❑ honour of
his appointment as Commander-in-Chief of this port.
There were present the elite of the port and garrison,
and Rear-Admiral Superintendent Prescott, C. 8.,
presided.
The Rapid, 8, Commander Blane, will be masted
to-morrow, and fitted out forthwith.
The Odin advanced steam-frigate has returned to
ordinary moorings.
The masts of the steam-frigate Vulcan have been
taken down to-day. They will be stepped in the basin
to- morrow.

The Birkenhead steam troop-frigate' Magter-
Commander Salmond, hauled off to the Blake hulk to-
day, complete for sailing orders. Her Commander
was summoned to the Admiralty by electric telegraph
this morning.
The Hecate steam-sloop, Commander Hand, pro-
ceeds to Plymouth to-morrow, after the court-martial
on her assistant-surgeon, to await sailing orders (ex-
pected for the Cape of Good Hope).

KOSSUTH.
The following is a list of the committee for the
M.P., Charles Gilpin, J. M. Hawkes,
Kossuth fund W. H. A•hurat, Eaq., F. Bennoch, Esq.,
R. Cobden, Esq.,
Esq., J. A. Nieholay, Esq., Thomas Prout, Esq., Rebert
Russell, Esq., James Stanfield, Esq., Lord Dudley
Coutts Stuart, M.P., William Arthur Wilkinson, Eaq.,
David Witton, Esq. Trustees—R. Cobden, Esq., M.P.,
Lord Dudley Stuart, M.P., Charles Gilpin, Esq., David
Witton, Esq. Bankers—Currie and Co., Cornhill;
Coutta and Co., Strand; Commercial Bank of London.
Kossuth will be the guest of Alexander Henry, Esq.,
M.P., for South Lancashire, during his stay in Man-
chester. The Mayor of Southampton has received a
special invitation from Mr. Henry to meat the Magyar
chief at Woodlands, near Manchester, the seat of Mr.
Henry.

Ko-ssuth, whilst at Birmingham is, in company with
M. Pulsky, Colonel Jhnzy, and Mr. Ton!man Smith, to
be the guest of Charles Gesell, Esq., hi.P.

ISLINGTON LITERARY AND SCIENTIYIC INSTITUTION.
—We attended last evening at the above well-conducted
institute, when Mr. Milne, the Scottish vocalist, gave one of
his popular lectures on the songs and ballads of his country.
Since we last witnessed Mr. Milne's performance he has, we
hear, made a very successful provincial tour. The enter-
tainment last evening passed off with complete success,
many of the songs being enthusiastically received by a very
crowded and respectable audience The Land of the Leal,"
" Wha's for Scotland and Charlie," and " Jock o' liaeledean,"
receiving, perhaps, the greatest amount of general applause.
"Johnny Sands" and " John Grumblie
were very hu-
morously rendered and were deservedly encored.
..Alto-
gether, Mr. Milne's performance was one of more than ()rep;
nary success, and gave promise of even greater things .
future.

ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY OF LONDON.—At the monthly
general meeting held yesterday, at the society's house in
Hanover-street, W. J. Broderip, Esq., V.P., in the chair,
Messrs. F. J. Bladon, R. W. Crawford, and the Rev. Benja-
min Winthrop, were elected fellows, and Messrs. H. Drtutt,
W. H. Lintott, John Colthurst, H. N. Reboul, and H. Bul-
lock, were proposed as candidates for the fellowship. The
report of the council stated that the number of visitors to
trhepeogritftfoufrt
aheprasirtaotfed that the
the gardens during the month of October amounted to 45,535,
and that the number of visitors in the current year up to this
time, as compared with the same period in 1850, presented
highness the Duke of Saxe-Coburg Gotha,
t
wild boars
anm iientcyrehasade obfee3noBh,oln4o7u.
which had been sen to this country under the care of one of
rednbey
his Royal Highness's foresters, and arrived on the 9th of
October. Several other donations had been received from from his Royal Hi
va-
rious sources, said the purchases effected at the sale of the
collection of the late President, included 66 species of the
greatest beauty and rarity. Of these but a small
number
have as yet been removed from Knowsley to the menagerie
in the Regent's Park, in consequence of the buildings which
are in progress there being not yet entirelj, complete. The
e
scientific meetings will be resumed on Tuesday •
evening next,
Nov. 11, when, among other communications, Professor
Owen will read a paper "On the rel • ative capacity of the cra-
nium in negro, chimpanzee, and "
orang-utan.
SOUTH :DEVON AGRICULTURAL ASSOCIATION.--
The annual ploughing match of this society will take place on
Tuesday, the 18th day of November, at Totnes, in a field on
Afton Farm, in the parish of Berry Pomeroy. The show of
South lianas cattle will also take place on the same day, in
an adjoining field; and we learn that Mr. William E. Rendle,
seedsman, Plymouth, has offered a number of prizes for the
best exhibition of roots, including Swede and other turnips,
mangold wurtzel, carrots, &c. ; and we have no doubt that
there will be a spirited competition. The exhibition of roots
will be held in one of Mr. Rendle's marquees, kindly lent by
that gentleman for this occasion.
MUNIFICENT BEQUEST TO THE ROYAL ORTHO•
TA.DIC HOSPITAL, BLOOMSBUAY-SgrAßE.—Yesterday the
committee of the above valuable institution for the cure of
deformities, received intimation of the handsome legacy of
100/. from the late Miss Wightwick, of Chertsey ; an addi-
tien to the funds, it may be observed, of much importance,
the charity being entirely dependent upon such voluntary
bounty, besides being confined iII itt ObTion3 benefit* from
the /Pant of bdequste LONA

in his court. Intended to subscribe towards thes
proceedings.
Re-examined—l act as magistrate for the borough
of Liverpool.
James Jeffery said be had resided in Liverpool
nearly 20 years. He was at the County Court on the
29th of September. Mr. Ramshay was ♦eTy much
excited, amounting to a state of frenzy, his counte-
nance very much inflamed. His wig was somewhat
off his scalp. Believed he was labouring under some
extraordinary influences. Witness soon bad the im-
pression that the liberty of every one in court was in
danger. He put the word "blows" into the mouth of
a witness. The witness did not use the word. (The
witness then corroborated part of the evidence of Mr.
Robertson Gladstone.) He proceeded to say that a
man, named Brown, who had applauded, was brought
up. A woman accused Brown of cheering. Brown
saluted a person in court, and asked the latter if he
cheered. The gentleman said he did not see Brown
applaud. The judge asked if the gentle-
man would swear he did not applaud.
The latter said he would not swear he did
not applaud, but he would swear he did not see him
applaud. On the evidence, Brown was fined 51., or
seven days' imprisonment. A flour dealer was or.
dered to be imprisoned, but the judge said that as he
Was a respectable man he would not send him to
prison.