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election, it was only just and fair they should suffer for
offences aggravated by being committed after reform.
An How. MEMBER said the freemen would always con.
rupt the representation.
Mr. GOULBURN strongly protested against referring
the petition to any but the usual sworn Election Com-
mittee, appointed under the Grenville Act. It was a
most unprecedented step, for the question would ultimately
be decided by a majority of the House.
Mr. BENETT was perfectly content if the Committee
should he instructed to inquire into the proceedings of the
last election, and as far back as might be necessary.
The question was then put—whether the petition should
be referred to a Select Committee on the 21st March inst.,
and that the Committee should then report to the House—
and carried in the affirmative.
The SPEAKER was then proceeding to read the first
instruction to the Committee, that they should inquire into
the proceedings of the last election, when
Mr. GOULBURN repeated his former objection to the
motion.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said no Act could be more
useful as between man and man than the Grenville Elec.
tion Act ; and the purity and impartiality of the proceed-
ings under it gave uniform satisfaction. But it was very
ill-calculated to promote the general interests of Vie repre-
sentative body; in fact, they were lost in its restricted
views and proceedings.
Mr. GOULBURN denied that the Noble Lord at all
understood the operation of the Grenville Act. The Com-
mittees under it made general reports.
Mr. WASON said that a Grenville Committee bad re-
commended the disfranchisern-nt of Psnrhyn.
After a desultory conversation, in which Lord Sandon,
Sir E. Kiiatcobull, the Solicitor-General, Sir John
Wrottesley, Lord Althorp, Mr. Benett, and Mr. O'Con-
nell, took part, the motion was agreed to without a
division.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL proposed that the Committee
should be chosen by ballot in a similar manner to Election
Committees, but that the attendance of Members should
not be enforced in the store manner. He moved that the
Committee should consist of eighteen Members, two to be
named by the House, and thirteen to be chosen by lot.
The ballot to take place on Tuesday next.—Agreed to.
Mr. O'DWYER moved for a return of all persons de-
riving any ply or emolument from offices held in the
Privy Council of Ireand, With the amount of salary, &c.,
—Agreed to.
Mr. O'CONNELL took that opportunity to inquire
of the Noble Lord opposite whether he would be enabled
to fulfil his engagement of laying the Irish Church Reform
Bill on the tab'e of the House during the present week
Lord ALTHORP hoped he should be enabled to do so
during this week. The only circumstance that now
caused any delay was the copying the Bill.—(Hear.)
Mr. HUME inquired whether any measure was about
to be proposed by his Majesty's Government in conse-
quence of the report of the Commissioners to inquire into
the law of debtor and creditor, which sat about three
years ago?
Lord ALTHORP said a Bill had been prepared which
was under consideration.
Lord G. SOMERSET inquired when they might ex•
pect the report of the Poor Law Commissioners ? The
N.ible Lord, about a month back, had given the House
reason to anticipate it by this time. It was very impor-
tant that Members should have the benefit of consider-
ing the result of these inquiries during the vacation, before
they were called upon to legislate on the subject.
Lord ALTHORP admitted that he had given some
such expectation. He would communicate with the Poor
Law Commissioners, however, and let him know in a few
days.

Mr. HANDLEY (Boston) inquired of the Solicitor.
General whether it was his intention to pursue a Bill
which pissed through the Upper House last session to
refer certain cases to arbitration ?
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL had too much on his
bands to bring forward such a Bill. Some of its clauses
were useful, but its general principle was bad. Compulsory
arbitrations were very objectionable ; but if any Hon.
Member thought proper to collect the salutary provisions,
and introduce them in the shape of a Bill, he would give it
his best attention.
Mr. FOWELL BUXTON wished to correct a mis-
apprehension which had arisen in Monday's debate during
his absence. The Noble Lord (the Member for Bucking-
hamshire) had said that he had withdrawn his notice for
the 19th. Now he had no intention to withdraw his
notice except upon certain terms. He withdrew it on the
understanding that it was the intention of the Government
to introduce a measure of emancipation, which he hoped
would satisfy the country. But he begged to assure them
that no measure would be either safe or satisfactory to the
nation, unless founded on the principle of entire and im-
mediate emancipation.—(Hear.) There was also a ne-
cessity that it should be introduced without delay. He
hoped that the minds of his Majesty's Government were
impressed with a conviction of the extreme danger which
must ensue to our colonies of the fearful chance of a servile

war, if the present system were not pt;;;;;;Ito;iih-
out any unnecessiry delay. He warned his Majesty's
Government not to lose time in settling this question.
Mr. SHELL inquired whether it «as the intention of
his Alajesty's Government to introduce any measure as to
Irish tithes ?

Lord ALTHORP said that it certainly was the inten-
tion of Government to do so, but he was not at pre,ent
enabled to say when.
On the motion of the Nosuz LORD, the House then
went into a