The Sun.
London, England, 1833-07-25 00:00:00

refined sugar was equivalent to a cwt. of raw sugar. II
should state, however, that if the West Indians objected
to the plan he proposed, he should feel himself bound, in
respect to his promise, to vote against the Hon. Gentle-
man. But he was afraid that in doing this they would '
not remedy the evils complained of. Before sitting down
he wished to state how impossible it appeared to him to
be to form a measure on any principles of justice till they
had ascertained a just proportion between refined and raw
sugar.
Mr. MARRYAT said he believed the West India
interest would not oppose the proposition of the Noble
Lord. He believed, for his own part, that it would do no
harm to the West Indi ns, and no good to the refiners.
Mr. HAWES spoke in a very low tone, and we are not
sure that we gathered his meaning correctly. We under-
stood him to recommend that the manufacturers should
pay into the hands of the Government an equivalent to
the bounty which it might be supposed they would receive,
and so all the objections of the Noble Lord the Chancellor
of the Exchequer would be at once overcome.
Mr. BERNAL believed that the West India interest
would neither assent to nor dissent from the proposition of
his Noble Friend. Speaking as an individual, he thought
it a desirable one.

Lord SANDON said if the parties interested simply
contended for the power of refining for exportation, and
did not desire to interfere with the home market, he did
not see how their prayer could be denied. It should be
recollected that, since the peace, all Foreign Powers bad
adopted a system of protection for their home manufac-
tures, and they, therefore, must not exp-ct such success as
they formerly enjoyed. Last year only, France had paid
760,0001. in bounties, thereby drenching every market,
and causing distress to every other nation. He hoped,
when such a system was exhausted, to see the trade again
revive. To refining sugar purely in hood, he had no ob-
jection ; but it was a question at such a critical moment,
the colonies too having such a dread even of the name of a
Sugar Bill, whether another element of alarm should be
added to that which already existed in the West Indies.
Dr.LUSHINGTON said, that when they were told that
capital was rapidly falling away—that trade was stagnant—
that industry had no vent—Ministers ought not to let one
single hour elapse without giving freedom to this trade.
They were bound to look at the actual state of the district
in which it had been carried on—to think for those

tressed thousands dwelling on the water side, whose sole
chance of employ was by the present system completely
cut off. What was the use of driving the question over to
another year, when the trade would be gone, and reme-
dies of no avail. What did these sufferers ask ? Nothing
hut what was just and right. They demanded no bounty.
They acknowledged the title of the West Indians to the
home market, and merely claimed to refine for exporta-
tion—a demand so moderate, so fair, and so reason,ible,
that surely the United Parliament would never consent to
refuse it. Ile did not think the case so desperate, that no
relief could be afforded.