The Sun.
London, England, 1834-07-05 00:00:00

zz,

~..,,,,*.- /
14'4!4+

(PRICE 7n.)

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF LORDS, July 5.
The House met to-day for public business at half-past
four o'clock.
Howell's Divorce Bill, the Borough's Justices' Bill, and
the Glasgow Lottery Prevention Bill, were read a third
time and passed.
The Duke of CUMBERLAND presented ten petitions
in favour of the Established Church, from parishes in the
diocese of Cork and Ferns.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition
from a surveyor of the name of Phillips, against certain
clauses in the Poor Laws Amendment Bill.
ESTABLISHED CHURCH.
The Duke of WELLINGTON presented petitions
from parishes in Cork, in favour of the Established
Church. Similar petitions were also presented by the
Earl of Eldon, from parishes in Devon ; also by
Lord Dynevor, from Carmarthen ; by Lord Farn-
ham, from parishes in Cork ; by the Earl of Wicklow, from
parishes in Sligo and Meath ; and by the Earl of West-
moreland, from parishes in Northampton.
DORCHESTER GAOL BILL.
Lord SUFFIELD gave notice of his intention to move
the second reading of this Bill on Monday next.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
Admiral FLEMING, Lord ROBERT GROSVENOR, and other
Members of the House of Commons, brought up the City
of Edinburgh Police Regulation Bill ; the Middlesex and
Essex Turnpike Roads Amendment Bill ; the Royal Navy
Pay Bill ; the Boston Port and Harbour Bill ; and the
Elgin Gaol Bill.
LONDON AND WESTMINSTER BANK.
The Earl of WICKLOW presented a petition
from the projectors and subscribers of the London
and Westminster Bank, in favour of the Bill in-
troduced into Parliament for authorising the formation
of the Company. The petitioners contended that there
was no clause before the House inconsistent with the
Bank Charter Bill, and prayed that they might be
allowed to examine evidence either at the bar, or
before a Committee, in order to show what took
place between Government and the Bank previous to the
passing of the Bank Charter Bill. The Noble Lord
stated that at the proper time lie should move that the
petition be taken into consideration by their Lordships.
Earl GREY said that when the proper time came at which
it would be necessary to consider the expediency of com-
plying with the prayer of the petition which had just
been presented, he should state what his objections
to it were. He would now state, however, in the
first place, that he previously had had no communi-
cation whatever with the Governor of the Bank of
England ; the communications that had taken place
had passed between them and his Noble Friend the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer. The understanding that had
been come to, as he had stated on a former evening,
did not appear to him to be at all accurately represented
by the letter which had been cited. The understanding
that took place, as he was empowered to state from the
authority of his Noble Friend was this, that nothing
shall be done contrary to the existing privilege of the Bank
bf England. A declaratory clause had been introduced
upon a firm persuasion on the part of his Noble Friend and
others, that it did not interfere with those exclusive
privileges. That statement was made to the Governor
and Deputy-Governor of the Bank, but they were not
altogether satisfied with it, and still thought their exclusive
privileges might be affected by the insertion of that
clause. 'Whether the introduction of that clause was
expedient or not was another question, but what he had
to state on the part of his Noble Friend and the rest of
his Majesty's Government was this, that in introducing that
clause it was not at all understood as invalidating
in any degree the agreement that had been made
with the Bank, that their exclusive privileges within 60
miles round London should not be touched. That was the
understanding, and upon that understanding, amongst other
grounds, he should feel himself obliged to object to the
further progress of this Bill. But whether the passing of
the present Bill would or would not be inconsistent with
the exclusive privileges of the Bank was a question now un-
der discussion, and upon which the learned judges had yet to
pronounced their decision ; till that was done he thought it
would be premature to come to any conclusion whatever.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that, for the
first time, he had to differ with his Noble Friend, and when
the proper time came he should have to offer his opposition
to the views of the Noble Earl, unless some further reasons
were stated. If this Bill was thrown out, it would be necessary
that the public should know precisely what the bargain was
that existed between the Government and the Bank, be-
cause he for one, and he believed he might also say the
publiel did not understand what the bargain was, if the Bill
which had been introduced, while the law sanctioned Joint
Stock Companies, should be found to be in contravention of
that bargain.
Lord ROSSLYN and the Marquis of CLANRICARDE pre-
sented petitions in favour of the Bill.
Earl WICKLOW moved for copies of all communica-
tions that had passed between the Government and the
Bank of England, having reference to the terms on which
the renewal of the Charter had taken place. He believed
there would be no objection to this, as they had been laid
upon the table of the other House.
The Earl of DURHAM presented a petition from
Some Dissenters praying for relief. He took the same op-
portunity of stating, with respect to the Warwick Borough
Bill, that as the parties to it found that they could not
go on in the absence of those witnesses. who were
amissing, he would move that the order of the day
on it for Wednesday be discharged and fixed for that day
month.

After a few words from Lord WYNFORD and the Duke
of WELLINGTON it was fixed that the motion be made on
Monday.
On the motion of Earl GREY the Civil Officers Com-
pensation Bill was read a third time and passed.
IRISH COERCION BILL.
Earl GREY moved the second reading of the Irish
Disturbances Suppression Bill.
The Earl of DURHAM said as the Bill met with the
support of the Noble Lords opposite, and was introduced
by the Government, it was not likely to meet with any
opposition or create a debate, he wished to state the
views which he entertained upon it, and the more
especially as he was prevented by illness from stating his
sentiments upon it when it was first introduced. He must
say, though it was with pain he did so, that he had great
and considerable objections to the bill. He, 'however, felt
great pleasure when he heard his Noble Friend (Earl
Grey) state that the Government had withdrawn the
courtmartial clause. He would have been more pleased
had the clause respecting public meetings also been dis-
pensed with. He would wish to give every power to the
Government for the suppression of what was called agrarian
disturbances, and he knew no one to whom he would en-
trust greater powers than to his Noble Friend at the head
of the Government in Ireland, but still he was not prepared
to arm them so far as was admitted that Bill went, viz. the
breaking into the Constitution. The Irish people had
as good a right to hold their public, meetings as any other
had ; it was their inalienable right, and oughtnot to be taken
away, except upon the most urgent and necessitous grounds.
He had considered that he would not have done his duty
had he remained silent, when he would not have the oppor-
tunity of showing what his opinion was by his vote.
The LORD CHANCELLOR was glad that his No-
ble Friend had given him an opportunity of saying a few
words upon that subject ; he was anxious to add
his belief to his Noble Friends at the head of the Govern-
ment of the absolute necessity of the continuance of the bill.
From all the sources of information open to him, he had
collected that he Would not have been doing his duty
either to his Sovereign, to himself, or to his country,
had he opposed its renewal—( Hear, hear)—for he
was convinced of its overwhelming necessity. The Bill
had been wrung from them, in the first instance, by the
necessity of the case ; and so he could now say, it was
again wrung from them by the almost increased necessity of
the case. He thought no man had a right to say that they
ought to press hard upon the peasant, and relax the law
with respect to persons in the city. (Hear.) He hoped
to God that the time was not far distant when Ireland
would be in a state to render the further existence of the
measure unnecessary. He now only agreed, and with great
reluctance, to the shortest possible extension of the Bill,
namely, twelve months from the time of its expiration.
He hoped this would be the last time the measure
would be renewed ; at the same time, he must
again repeat, that it was not fit, or fair, or
consistent to draw the distinction which his Noble Friend
was willing to draw between the infraction of the rights of
the subject, to attend public meetings and the sun-setting
part of the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He felt the cruel dilemma
into which Parliament had been driven, and they might take it
from time that some other course must be resorted to. If,
for instance, in the course of the next seven or eight months
there was violence, why it would be said the Bill must be
renewed ; if on the other hand no agitation took place, the
same argument would be adduced, for it would then be