The Sun.
London, England, 1856-12-23 00:00:00

HER MAJESTYS BOA hD OF WORKS.

Mr. Thwaites, the Chairman of the Metropolitan
Board of Works, accompanied by Mr. Woolrych, the
clerk, and Mr. Rizalgette, the engineer of the board,
waited on Sir B. flab, her Majesty's Chief Commissioner
of Works and Public Buildings, yesterday, at White-
hall-place, for the purpose of submitting to the right
hen baronet the new plan of outfall for the main drain-
age of the metropolis, which bad been prepared in ac-
cordance with the suggestions of Capt. Burstal, the Go-
tvreorinoullietnant engineer,
o Tuesdayeer,n:indwhici4st.
was adopted by the me.

Mr. THWAITES said he waited on the right bon. gentle_
man fur the purpose of formally presenting to him a plan
relating to the main drairn,ge of Ihe metropolis which the
'Metropolitan Board had adopted, embodying the eug-
gestions of Capt. Burstal, which were made to a deputa-
tion of the h, and a short time ago as ,o the outfall of the
sewage. The plan was Marked B*, and he believed it
would be found to be iu etnitoirmity with the arrange.
meat
.which was on that occa,ion made as t the point
of outtislt, .„Mr., BazAlgette Was prepared to give aey
explanation thil‘yight bon, gentleman mi!ht desire.
Mr. Beailgnito having pointed out the alteration,
whieb bad been wade in the.plan, Mr. Thwaites, at the
request of the Chief Commissioner, affixed his signature
thereto,

The Cain Cointrisszoffrrap—J tee by the plan you hay.'
just placed befotei me that' the outfalls ate: precisely la
accordance with the euggeeti4ottanitit flyeapt. -11nrafaL-,
I wish to impress upon your minds that those sugges-
timid were merely in reference to the nearest point at
which byanyptissibility the outfalls could bernade in corn-
plience with the provisions of the statute. So far, there-
fore, I conceive the Metropolitan Board of Works have
entirely complied with 'the provisions of the act, and I
accordingly accept the plan, with the intention of taking
the course which I will now explain to you. I think it
extremely desirable, in relation to a work of thisenormous
magnitude, that we should have the very bestadviceand
counsel that can be possibly procured. The course,
therefore, which I propose to take is to nominate three
gentlemen, two of thew civil engineers, and one a mili-
tary engineer (nd I will endeavour to select three of
the most experienced men that can be found), to whom
I will refer all your plans, accompanied with instruc-
tions, the nature of which I will now state to you. I
shall in the first place direct their attention to the Me-
tropolis Local Management Act, 18th and 19th Viet., c.
120, and especial y to the clauses 135 and 136 of that
aut. By the fii at of those sections power is given to yon
to make those great works, a full description of which I •
shalt set forth in the in,tructione. By the second of
those sections the approval of the Minister who may be
at the time the First Commissioner of Works is made
necessary before any plan can be csrried out. I next
propose to send to those referees, as they may be called,
copies of the several reports which have been presented
to you by your engineer in relation to the various plans
which have from time to time been submitted to you ;
and I shall be obliged by being furnished with four copies
of each of those reports. I Anil alsogive to these three
gentlemen copies of Captain Burstal's two letters in re-
ference to the flaw of the tide in the river Thames, be-
cause I think the contents of those letters may be very
useful to them in their investigation of this matter. There
is one point which I think it right especially to name to
you, wuich is that I shall direct their very particular at-
tention to a fact not containe i in any report, but which
was mentioned in a statement made by your engineer at
the interview we bad, and which was reported in the
papers of the 214 of November last, as to the amount of
the discharge of sewage. There are at present some very
great discrepancies on that point, and it will be neces-
sary for the three gentlemen to be appointed to obtain
the moat accurate information io respect to that parti-
cular subject; because the respective sizes of the drains
and the reservoirs must necessarily be determined by
the amount of sewage that will flow down towards the
river. But I shall go much further than that. I
think, as I stated before, that we ought to have the
very best plau the ingenui' y of man can devise in rela-
tion to this scheme ; therefore I shall tell those gentle.

men mot ti confiee themselves merely to the pr'l,ll lqtb.
!bitted by your board, but I desire them to give Die
the very fullest information upon this Plu j.ict, and that
if they can devise any other scheme which they may in

their judgment consider better calculated to at:atn the
object in view, I shall desire them to set forth all the
particu'ars of any such achetee in order that I may lay it
uetore you for your consideration. I think that this
curse un my part is rendered essentillly necessary in
consequence of the steps which you yourselves must
take in relation to the raising of the money required to
early out these works.. Government cannot advance
money to au large as amount as you require until that
amount shall have been eanctione4 by Parliament, and I
am quite sure Parliament will desire,
before any such
sanction is given, that the whole question shall be con-
sidered in the way I have now sketched out. When
Parliament shad see that men of the best quaiified minds
in relation to this matter have been exercising their
talent on the subject they will be much more likely to
sanction the advance than if they thought I bad confined
myself merely to the consideration of one plan. The
plan you have now sub'iiitted to me fixed the outfalls
at the points referred to by Captain Burs.bal, and which
are 15 miles below London-bridge. But we are well
aware that it is desired by the inhabitants of the towns
and districts bordering on the Thames below the 15
miles' point that the main sewer should be extended, and
that the outfall should be carried still further from the
metropolis, provided the funds can be obtained for the
increased expenditure which th tt extension would render
necessary. I shall therefore desire these three engineers
to report to me whether, in their opinion, there is soy
other p, i,t of dischare stili further down the river
calculated to meet the requircnents of those districts.
If so, I shall desire that when they submit a plan
for such an extension of the main sewer that they
at the same time set forth the increased cost
deconse-
quent upon any such extension, and the benefits to_ be
main.
irainage will pass. I shall desire themalso -
ho
rived by the districts through which the extteo state nde d
ey
far, in their opinion, those districts should
_be required tow
contribute to the expense of such extended works,having
relation to the benefit which those districts would derive
from that extension ; as, of course, it is not my intention
applicable
tants of the metro') tlie a larger they would
have t )
in giving these instructions to imeupmosetbuapbOntne itibabi.
.ocl-wise, pay if the main sewer stopped at B*.
To that extent only ought they to be taxed, unless
of the Thameo are
the
kingdom.
, on the sa ,
Buto terms
it certainlythatktreis re
should be a generai taxation for the works, arid ~.hen
very de-
sirable,should be carried further
down the river, that these three eminent engineers
tot hof eotyph e:wn restoiou al d
to
ill
ao the
that
as the people in the vicinity
tehe main sewer
should well consider the subject, so that we may have it
fully before us previous to any application toParliament.
A great many plans have been drawn up by various per.
sons in relation to this main drainage scheme. I shal
refer all such persons who may wish to be heard un their
respective pit,is to these gentlemen, and I feel confident
anda
they will give rull attention to
lanstheatttemratyb bale%
brought before them. I shall conclude
by expressing a hope that theyreport their views
any
ylupde
will re po my l
upon the whole question of the main drainage and out-
fall for the metropoli..,districts 2
other oicts at the earliest
period possible, consistently with a full consideration of
a subject which is so important inits character, and the
completion of which is so much desired by every
one.
Mr. THWAITES said, as Sir B. Hall bad expressly stated
that, should the worksbeyond the points in
extended be
plan 85, it would not be at the expense of the metro-
polis, he had no observation to make on that point.
He could & sure Sir B. Halt that ueitber he hor the
Metropolitan B ard Ily bad any other idea than
gettera
that their the utmost sifting. No
Plan should undergo
doubt, for a work of such magnitude, the very best pl.an
ought to be obtained. Be apprehended aonn.oerpr
would be afforded to Mr. Bazalgettented to to
invest
c f withtun
theit.
investigate
three engineers who would be appor
the plan now submitted to the Government.
The would furnish the
The Cater COMMISSIONER said
ons to those gentlemen,
board with a copy of his instructions
0 desire that Mr.
and at at the same time
be
w•vue them all the assistance in
Otte should attend, and gi
his power.
their
. en was anxious per.
Mr. THIVAITES sat
and c 1
tbe boardgi wasneer or also ready to affd
sonally to do so,
assistance in their owes so
r so that the engineers
every might thoroughly under-
standloyed by the Government
amp
what they had to perform.
The CHIEF COMMISSIONER—WeiI, now I hope we
shall bring this difficult question to a close.
Mr. TRWAITES—I hope so, too.
The interview then terminated.

BARON WARD.—Baron Ward, tue late Prime Minis-
teru e, mai
Dow po,essed of pi incely estates in Austria, was born
at 110 A den, in Yok,hire, and came to Loudon as is
stahle•boy, and se, yea as grown to several noblemen ;
be then went to Italy as a stable-boy, btcatne racing
groom to Baron Loweirherg, and then to the Duke of
Lucca, and afterwards, on his abdication, to hi. son the
Duke of Parma, in whose household be rose by degrees
t, fits the mo..t important position in the country
Housthold Manager.
N e style Runt
was ALA RUSSIL—The yle of Dinners ala Rut
was first tis
r, due
dued into France and England at the
peace of 1814, out Of cumpErnent to the Emperor of
Russia. There is no doubt but that tne style is ancient
even dating as early as the Czars, when it was the cw.
60111 to ,end th, dishes to Labe as hot as p )ssible. Ti:.
style, like many of the Roman dishes and sauces (the
gai um, for instance), stilt exists in Constantinople, from
tne inoabitauts of which, we
have no doubt, the Rue.
sians have taken it,—The Bougholci Manager.