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----ilaattera told him in th .louse of Cornmone en Mondey
night that he believ 300 clergymen of the Cburelt
I r England were preparing to seced, to the church of
Rene.—(Great cheering.) If this N':::); true it must be
eorne in mind that those 300 were but an iodination of
something more behind. They indicated the existence
of probably 2,000 clergymen of the Church of England
ho, though not prepared to go over to the Church of
Rome, were anxious to introduce into their churches
many of those views and practices which Proteetaets, as
a matter of course, if they adhered to the principles of
the Reformation, could never for one moment consent to.
—(Hear, hear.) But, while they saw the Established
Church of England going back as fast and as tar as it
could towards opinions and practices from which they
had withdrawn themselves, they did not find a single
individual from any other church in the -United Kingdom
doing so.—(Cheers.) There were Roman Catholics in
that meetingeand he was sure not one of them would take
amiss anything he said its good pert in srguaig the gees-
tion.—(No, no.) Ile was not arguiug it ed h them. lie
was doing so with Protestants, and speaking to those
who, in his opinion, had taken•a most Epistolers and in•
juidonapart in the discussions of this question during
the last six months.—(llear, hear.) Ine Eatatilished
Church he had shown was but a `ceder to Rome;
its educational institutions were of the melt restric-
tive character, Dissenters being meorieusly and pur-
peselY 'shut out from the most part of them.—(lee ar,
hear.) There had been no fresh air in Oxford.—(Laugh-
ter.) It had received no Leah blood, no re w late; and
vast lands were there expended for purposes of educa-
tion, that annually turned out large numbers of young
men, who had entirely repudiated the principle of Pro-
testantism, and were doing their utmost to persuade the
people of this country to return to the bosom of a church
which these Young men believed to be better than the
church to which they belonged.—(liear, bear.). But
they did not, at the same time, find that from the Scotch
establishment, which was never half to clumsily and
corruptly formed as the E,tablished Church of this
country, or from the Free. Church of Scothead, the
the Weajeyans,' the Independ-
ents, of Ireland,
or the Baptists—they did not find that from any of
these either the people or the ministers were disposed to
return to Rome..—(Cheers.)
Whatargunient- did. he
draare from all this? The arghtnent, edneltision to
which he was inevitably driven was, that they y had an
establishment with '15,000 edticated'blitilateias and with
oiwo,opoi. of revenuo'for its, maintenance—"l,ol44hed
not merely. to be a. bulwark against Popery, WO. to
lames Popery, a,ed,yet they found that chttrob aaeeed,m,,to
r, the' Clanteli of llama; held alnicatt convulsing the OeUptry
by the distractiOns Whiehit had,of late yearn intrOdticed
-into -religious-questions.- -Bit-- the -Dissenters were not
:free from blame. , The course which maps' Dissenters
had taken had been :a most unhappy one. lie did not
believe the bulk of them, er of theiraminialers, had joined
in this anti-Papal cry; but too many had, At one meet-
ing .
of uisimnters they gave three cheers for the Queen,
which meant three cheers for the supremacy of the
Queen in ecclesiastical Matters, he presumed.—(NO, no.)
Why, everybody would give three cheers for the Queen,
and it was quite ridiculous for these Dissenters to do so
in the marked way they bad done if they did not mean
anything more than usual by it.—(Hear.) Now Dissen-
ters would never have acted as they had in this matter if
there had been no Established Churbh.—(Cheers.) They
would not have interfered, any more than the Americans
did when Archbishop Hughes was appointed to the dio-
cese of New York. They would have. asked themselves
-14.hether the establishment of the Catholic hierarehy.was
a proof that Catholicism was apreading'it'sielf id -Eng-
land, and if they found that it was so, they would then
have resolved to bestir themselves to show the excellences
of the reforMed faith, and to save from felling into Rome
as many as they could bring under the influence of their
reason and argument.—(Hear.) After referring to the
past services rendered by the Nonconformists to the cause
of liberty, and regretting that they had not on this mica-
' Wien assumed a nobler and loftier attitude, the Hon.
Gentleman went on to observe, that notwithstanding all
he had said. no one who heard him had the slightest
suspicion that ho was a Roman Catholic.--(A laugh.)
lie had been charged with many high crimes and mis-
demeanours in his time, but, as yet, nobody had accused
him of that. If there was a man who rejected and dis-
claimed more completely and reservedly than another
all those powers that priests of every Church—(Cheers)
—were too apt to exert ever those with whom they came
in contact, he was that man.—(Cheers.) His colleague
hal spoken of a gentleman who, on that platform and
elsewhere, bad represented them as not being Protes-
tants. and as betraying the Protestant cause. He pro-
tested against the, gentleman saying anything of the
sort. He (Mr. Bright) was much more of a Protestant
than he was.—(Cheers.) He was for the moat complete
freedom among all classes of religionists, and for the
Most complete system of educating the people.—
(Cneers.) He was forawactising the truth and kindness
and cherity inculcated by Christianity, though forgotten
often by Protestants, and he would back his plan for
keeping Protestants Protestants, and bringing Catholics
to Protestantism. against all the vituperation that could
he employed.—(Cheers.) But now a word as to the po-
litical evils of the question. They had been ten weeks in
the House of Commons, and now they came before that
meeting • With an empty wallet. They had not
done a single thing that they could be commended for.
l'arliatn,ent had been kept talking on this imaginary
question of sentiment, arid everthing else bud been
aaegleeted, foe the- bad not had one week's good work
eltogether.--2(llear, hear.) It seas said the Govern-
ment hal been in difficulties. Now, he did not think a
nation went to ruin because a Cabinet wait occasionally
in difficulties—(Deer, hear, Bea laughter)—but at all
aveaaa the Manchester party were not to blame. The
tresre active Members of that party, viz, Mi. Cobden,
Mr. Gibson, aud himself, had nut brought torward any
ono qu,'stion that led to a division, lecause they did not
wish unnecessarily to embarrass the proceedings of Go.
vernment or of Parliament.—(Bear, hear.) It was
quite true than. a public writer, who was so saturated
with self-conceit that he had not room fa- a single bit of
candour or a single speck of trulh—(Laughter)—had
been endeavouring to instil into the minds of the consti-
tuency of Manchester that they (the Members of the
Manchester party) were making themselves unpleasant
to tee Government, anal embarrassing them as much as
possible. Nothing could be more untrue.—(Cheers.)
As to the Papal Bill, which affected 8,000,000 of the
people, was it likely that such a measure could be
brought forward and the Government not find it opposed
by many of its usual supporters? But, in truth, there
was no cohesion on their aide of the House; the Whigs
were not of the same party with them, and they never
pretended they were.—(Cheers.) The Whigs held the
policy that the Whig was for the Whigs—(A
that is, for Whig supremacy, and that three or four
families had an hereditary right to govern this country.
—(Cheers.) The objects which they (the Manchester
party) sought for were well known to the constituency;
they never disguised them, and they were doing no un-
fair thing by advocating tie in in the House of Commons.
—(hear, hear.) If the Whig Government was weak it
was because they would not govern by a policy that-was
agreeable to the minds of those who sat on their own
side of the House, and repudiated the majority of these
who appeared nominally as their friends in Parliament.
—(clear, hear.) He had once brought forward on that
platform the compreition of the Cahmet. It had hi,rdeo"a
little altered, but not much, sines then. There was Lord
'Truro, Lord Lqus.Jowee, ford Clunricarde, Lard (,re",
Lord Carlisle, Lord Broughton, better known .
a
J.
Habaauee, and a prodigious radical when il
peerage,
the peerage,
was a boy.—( A laugh) He wasnow in
whether
of
having by a process—he did not knew
ripen-
ing or decry—bean transferred to that political bourne
,
"whence no traveller returns."—(GreatoH,use
e.f Lords in theue hter.) Here,
then, were six members fl 3 e
the others ? Lord J. IL
Liberal Cabinet. Who
Rue-
cell, L:-rd Palmerston, igwre:F. Alttule,,theson of a peeler,
Sir G. Grey, the near relative of a peer, Sir F. Baring,
seat of a peer, Sir C. Wood, eonae. law of
a
peer, and Mr. Labeuchere, also in intimate relationship
with the Pe"fl-ge'
He was not Saying a syllable indivi-
dually against these men. There were those among them
be, stieuid be sorry to see out of any Government that
but was it to be expected that these
13 ougidal btelelmlned
gentlemen discuss round the council-table the
0
meets of a Reform Bill in the spirit in which it would be
discussed by the people?—(Hear, hear.) They could
see that in a thorough Re,ertn Bill halt these men would
never find their way iuto a Cabinet at all.—(Hear, hear.)
The end of their five years' policy was this, that they
had almost delivered the country into the hands of the
Philistines.—(A laugh.) But, being its extremis, the
Government had come forward and promised a measure
of Parliamentary reform.—(Hear, hear.) It was a great
step that Lord John Russell had promised this, and it
was also an important step that Sir James Graham bad
agreed with him that there must be an extension or the
suffrage; but, if they read the speeches of Lord John
Russell and Sir James Graham, they would see
what
emphasis they laid on the word " caution."—( '
He did not want to be ungenerous to Lord caution."—(A laugh.)
l
or his colleagues, but he had suspicions the
muleeh"olinne
people came to the rescue they would not get
atauform Bill
Reform Bill next year.—(Cheers.)
'After point-
ingand a fright-
without the ballot would be incomplete,
ful betrayal of the cause.—(Cheer.)notthe Honourable
wereballots
called the Man.
out the necessity for the
policy the Manchestereh
Gentleman proceeded:—They
chester school, and their
repudiate that nam
that by their intelligence°
policy. He did not
regarded it as an honour,
their interpidity,
their sacrifices, their combinations, Ma • -
marked -the Impress of their minds
they had actually
ofte greatest em-
pire the policy h
and their nonvictionms
e•—(Cheers.) They bad
fen the
they intended to stand by them. 'They
own self-respect only
principles, and
face of the glob
could have their o by so doing—
(Cheers)—end
W. batever influence they might have in
the country or
in
.Parliament arose simply from this—
who heard them in Parliament knew that
thatthey
believed what they said, and that they were really
anxious to carry into action the principles they honestly
propounded.—(Cheery.)
Some very timid gentlemen
had told them that the very reason why they should
maintain Lord John Russell in power was, that he might
advocate there the policy which they I.Bd supported
for years, end which he then repudiated. But' let
these timid gentlemen take comfort. They (the 34[611:1;
elie sten party) had no interest in public mistdrittuTtoo,
public coneultien. Their industry proephre_e! in
n per.
eutl all they had in the world deppdeal
raanence of whatever was valuable
fore, motive ,for
in the insthtutire,na
of this country. They had, thereto
contusion ; but
taking any course that could lead
They had not,
ho was not afraid of the future./iar of cloud by day
as the chosen people of old,
and a pillar of fire by night todl
humane error; but He who
atrdPtheem through the wil-
dernees of human passion au
re had not left them for-
ouchsalhd the cloud and
ibex
idenot less certain, a
eaken. He had given
the
eymbad before them the princi-
light not lees clear.
The which Christianity taught and
plea of justice and u_edreY'x
experience alike sanctioned.—
which philosophy 8U o on, then, trusting in those prin-
(Cheers.) Let the
ciples—let them
17l g
believe that they would exist for ever--
(Great cheerb)f
OUnd unchangeable in the providence

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