The Sun.
London, England, 1833-09-03 00:00:00

DUTCH PAPERS.

THE HASUE, Aug. 29. The Haarlem Courant gives
a long account of the review of the troops lately com-
posing the garrison of the citadel of Antwerp, on the
heath of Gorsel. General Chasse delivered to General
Fauvage and the superior °Meets the medals designed for
the troops which he had received from the King, and
they were then distlibuted to the men by companies.
The medal is well executed, representing on one side a

regular pentagon, on which are the words "Citadel van
Antwerpen ;" on the reverse, in a laurel crown, sur-
mounted by his Majesty's crowned cypher, "Dee. 1832."
The medal is worn attached to a light blue riband.
At 11 o'clock his Majesty arrived on the ground ac-
companied by the Prince of Orange and Prince Fre-
derick, the three young Princes with the Queen and the
Princesses of Orange, Frederick and Albert of Prussia.
The concourse of spectators was very great, numbers
having come from a great distance to see the King and
the Royal Family, who were repeatedly welcomed with
the most joyful acclamations. General Chasse received
his Majesty, who in the most cordi.l manner shook hands
with the veteran soldier. The King and the Princes
with a numerous and brilliant staff, rode along the lines,
after which the troops filed off before his Majesty. Their
fine appearance, especially that of the artillery, was greatly
admired by the spectators. The R Family on leaving
the ground to return to the Loo were again enthusiastically
cheered, and General Chasse received the most unequi-
vocal testimony of the esteem of the spectators.
Boas LE Due, AUG. 27.—We hear that the negoci-
ations between the Dutch and Belgian Plenipotentiaries,
relative to the communication between Maestrecht and
this province, were continued the day before yesterday.
The Dutch Commissioners are said to have been received
at Hasselt in the most friendly manner by the Commis-
sioners of Belgium.

THE HELDER, Mick 26.—His Majesty's ship, the
Zeeuw, Captain Ryk, arrived in this read to day
THE HAGUE, AUG. 29.—A1l the Ministers who were
here went yesterday to the Loo, it is supposed in conse-
quence despatches from London relative to the meeting of
the Conference on the 24th, at the breaking up of
which the next meeting was put off indefiniiively.
Some persons affirm that the question to be now discussed
is, how far the Dutch Government cau make, on its part,
any proposals to the German Diet, respecting the Grand
Duchy of Luxemburg. It is not known whether M.
Veretalk Van Soelen is coming home or not. A steam-
boit lies ready at Helvoetsluys, to go to London with
despatches. We hear, also, of a discussion in the Ger-
man Diet on the subject of Luxemburg.
One of the Belgian Ministerial Papers says that Aus-
tria, Prussia, and two other states, bad declared in the
Diet that they could not assent to any arragement respect-
ing Luxemburg, and that their rights would be maintained
to the utmost; that it was under consideration to send
plenipotentiaries to represent the Diet at the Conference
in London, but that none were appointed, doubts having
arisen respecting the Power from which these p'enipoten-
tiaries should receive their instruction., if such should be
required when the Diet was not assembled, and that it
lay between Prussia and Austria. These accounts further
say that the Diet had resolved, in the same sitting, to
reinforce the garrison of Frankfort, alleging as a reason
the discovery of a plot to set at liberty the individuals
confined for political offences, and that Wurtemburg hail
protested against this measure.
DUTCH FUNDS.—AMSTERDAM, Auu. 30.
Actual Debt, 2% per cent 4834 to 49%
Amort Syndic, 4% per cent... 8.5% to lidyi
Ditto, ditto, 3% per cent 7O to 71
Voluntary Loan, 1831, 6 per cent lOl to 10134:

Ditto, 'ditto, 1832,5 per cent 91% to 92%
Ditto, ditto, 1833, 5 per cent 91% to 92%
Exchange on London l2 05
Ditto, two mouths
—Dutch Papers, Aug. 31.
BRUSSELS, Aua. 29.—The Royal Adelaide steam-
boat has brought dispatches from the Belgian Plenipoten-
tiaries at London for the Government. They were imme-
diately forwarded from Antwerp to Brussels.
The Maniteur Beige announces that the cholera conti-
nues to rage at Willebroek.

The same disorder has lately appeared to an alarming
extent in the House of Correction at St. Bernard's, and in the
military prison at Alost. All measures calculated to check
the progress of the disorder were immediately taken in
those places, and had happily abated the intensity of the
disease.

The Conference at Zongboven quietly terminated its
career on the 24th. More fortunate than that at London,
it has at last led to a final result.

For the next fiftee❑ days successively, 200 men of the
garrison of Maestrieht, with arms and baggage, will pass
through Maseyk.
There has also been a Conference on a smell scale at
Weert, which, it seems, related to the fixing of the bound-
aries. Two Dutch and two Belgian Lieutenants came to
the spot for the purpose.

CHAMBER OF REPRESENTATIVES. -SITTING

OF AUGUbT 28.

The Order of the Day was the debate on the budgets.
M. Serar examined that of the War Department, the
expenses of which were enormous. He thought, also,
that the expenses of the foreign missions were also too
great, and that instead of ambassadors with enormous
salaries envoys would suffice. if there was a wish to
reduce the public expenditure, the salaries of the Arch-
bishop of Malines, of the Bishops, the Presidents of the
Courts of Caseation and appeals of the Governors, Bsc.,
might be curtailed. The pensions, especially that of the
Pae4enr, might he diminished.
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M. de Brouckere also complained of the bad and extra-
vagant system of finance.
M. Dumortier said it was usual for the Ministers to
give an account of the foreign relations of the Stare pre-
viously to the discussion of the budget, and hoped they
would do so now.

The Minister of Justice acknowledged that such was
the custom, and the Ministers had always communicated
to the Chambers the state of the negociations whenever they
could do so, but now he could only say that negociations
of the highest importance are on foot, and that it would
be contrary to the interest of the State to wake any pr.:-
mature communications on the subject.
M. Dumortier said he should take up the subject again,
on the discussion of the budget of the department of
foreign affairs.
BaussEns, Auo. 30.—Accounts from the camp at
Castraux say that opthalmia prevails to an alarming degree.
Of 4,000 men now in the camp above 400 are afflicted
with this disorder ; the neighbouring hospitals are insuf-
ficient to con tain them, and it is necessary to send those
who are the most slightly affected to places at a consi-
derable distance.
M. Smits, one of the commissioners sent to London with
our plenipotentiaries, has returned to Brussels.
In the Chamber of Representatives, on the 29th, the
order of the day was " the discussion of that part of the
budget of 1633 concerning,the public debt."
The discussion occupied the whale of the sitting, and
was adjourned till the following day,
This debate, which is necessarily full of calculations and
figures, "is the most important (says the Courier Beige)
that we shall have during the discussion of the budget."
It then enters into a pretty detailed analysis of the whole,
and concludes—.

" From all that precedes it teems to result that with-
out despairing of the future, it is, however, time to deny
to foreigners, whoever they may be, the right of loading
us with fresh burdens, which would be intolerable. Our
diplomacy has really in its bands the future fate of Bel-
gium. Let us resist the unjust demands of Holland,
and it is not wholly undone. But if not contented with
having already irrevocably laid on the country burdens
heavier than those of which we complained before the
revolution, the Powers should think of augmenting those
burdens by an addition of above five millions of francs an-
nually, and this at a time when we shall need extraor-
dinary resources to build fortresses on the frontier next to
Holland, to arm a fleet, to pay pensions, we must declare
even now our resources will prove insufficient, and the
independent existence of Belgium will be en impossi-
bility."—Brussels Papers, Aug. 31.
FRANCFORT, Auc. 27.—1 t now appears certain that
the intended visit of the Emperor of Russia to Bohemia
will really take place, and that his Majesty will then meet
the Sovereigns of Austria and Prussia. It is said be will
observe the strictest incegnitn, and for that reason not go
to Berlin.--Francfort Papers, Aug. 28.
VIENNA, Auc. 23.—Five pur Cent. 94i; Four per
Cent. 86; Bank Shares 1,22-I.—AI/gamine Zeitung,
Aug. 28.

WITCH ICS IN LEEDS.—Two wretched women
have lately been visiting Leeds, who profess to have the
power, among other sublime endowments, of discovering
and disclosing the secrets of futurity, and such is the cre-
(lnlay and infatuation of no small number of the people,
that the pretensions of such stupid and wicked impostors
never want fools to believe them. It seems that the two
gifted women, whose names are Bridget and Mary Cole-
man, with all their supernatural skill and knowledge,
could not perceive that in Leeds they were likely to get
bo•b into disgrace and into prison. On Saturday they were
arrested while attempting to gull a man of the name of
Matthew Brown, and on Tuesday they appeared at the
Courtshouse, a new and not a very propitious scene for
their incanta ions. When they were brought before the
Magistrates, they pretended to be both (leaf and dumh—
no human voice could they bear, no human invocation
could induce them to speak, and in high and ludicrous
style they supported their assumed characters. The Ma-
gistrates had the hardiho ,d to sentence these fearful rulers
of the spirits of the air to three months imprisonment and
hard labour in the House of Correction ; and when they
had been reconducted to prison, it appeared that a miracle
had been wrought upon them—though they had been
deaf, they could bear each other speak, and though they
had been dumb, they could make the walls of their cell
resound with a strong Irish brogue.--Leeds Times.

LONDON,
TUESDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 3, 1833.

The French Papers of Friday and Saturday
mention the arrival of the young Queen of POR-
TUGAL at Havre on the 28th ult. No ships of
war had yet appeared to carry her away.
The KING'S Speech on proroguing Parlia-
ment had been the subject of much comment
in Paris, and had rather a slight chilling effect
on'Change. The Moniteur makes several sensible
and pertinent remarks on the Russian Cabinet's
late official defence of its war of extermination
against the Poles. The remarks are temperate
and guarded, but evidently intended, as in the
following sentence, to bear a significant mean-
ing—to operate as a useful hint :—" We do not
live in an age in which justice permits, and
prudence counsels a Government to proclaim a
whole nation worthy of chastisement, and to
employ towards it a pretended right of conquest
which civilization recognizes no longer, at least
in this sense."

A Mr. GEORGE FARREN, interested, we
should imagine, either in the Bank of England
or in some private Bank, but putting himself
forward as a simple resident Director of the
Asylum, Foreign and Domestic Life Assurance
Company, has published a pamphlet of some
two and thirty pages, on the subject of joint-
stock banks. His object is to show that the
results of joint-stock banks in London must be,
to the Proprietors, loss and endless squabbles
among themselves ; to their customers, uncer-
tainty, want of facility, and apprehensions of
abused confidence ; to the Bank of England,
ultimately great gain from a variety of causes,
and to the mercantile world generally, agita-
tion, speculation, litigation ; any thing but
reparation or consolation. A fearful list
of calamities put into fearful language. The
only marvel is that Mr. GEORGE FARREN
thought it necessary to warn people against
consequences which, f likely to occur, carry
with them their own warning. Any one
entering into a new scheme, is, or ought to
be, prepared for the possibility of loss and squab-
bles that may arise in any partnership. The
customers of bankers are the last people who
need Mr. FARREN'S friendly warning; for if
the uncertainty, want of facility, and apprehen-
sions of abused confidence, be greater in a
Joint-Stock Bank than at a private Bank, of
course depositors will not leave their old esta-
blishments ; but we have been weak enough to
believe, that it was a grievance, that the trades-
man of Westminster or London were aggrieved
by being obliged to open an account with 5001. in
his hand at the Bank of England, or go to a
private bank with the security of which he was
not altogether so well satisfied. It is very likely
that money borrowers will, many of them, either
be obliged, when a joint stock bank is established,
to keep their accounts at their old bankers, or
procure cash credits at the new bank, on the
system practised in Scotland ; but there are
many tradesmen in London who have seldom
occasion to borrow, whose bills are good, and
whose main want at present is a bank of deposit
affording them greater facilities than the Bank of
England, and greater facilities than the existing
private banks.
As to the gain joint-stock banks are ultimately
to occasion the Bank of England we must beg
leave to take the opinion of the Bank itself in
preference to that of Mr. FA RREN, upon the
point. It is strange that the Bank should have
so violently opposed itself to this source of gain,
that they should have struggled so hard for the
maintenance of their monopoly, and should so
indecently have insulted public opinion by the
language they used after the declaration of Lord
ALTHORP, that joint-stock banks should not be
prohibited by law. Mr. FARREN cannot suppose
that the Bank was actuated in its opposition by
any tender feelings for the losses of the unhappy
subscribers and customers of such banks for he
asks in a threatening tone, " Would they, (the

Bank) ought they, in justice to their proprietary
and to the Government, to permit repeated acts
of aggression against them, without severe re-
taliation ? " In order that there may be no
doubt of his meaning, he before asked "Is it
not notorious that the Bank of England could,
by sale of exchequer bills, or otherwise, with-
draw nearly altogether their notes from circula-
tion in London ?" So much for putting the
whole circulating medium of the country into
hands of a private and privileged corporation.
There is certainly no saying how far the infatua-
tion of a monopoly may go ; but we still think
Mr. FARREN'S fee-fa-fum question may be an-
swered by another, "Is it not notorious that
men hare the power with razors and other in-
struments to cut their own throats ?" It is very
true that they have, and men often meet with
crosses and losses which make them inclined to
use this power, and sometimes do lead them
actually to cheat their credi•ors by using it. The
law, however, does not contemplate that bodies
of men will cut their own throats, or act against
their evident interest. Now, if the Bank should
really ever be insane enough to do what Mr.
FARREN threatens, not only would it incur great
pecuniary loss, but raise such a storm of public
indignation as would cause the annihilation of
its exclusive privileges in less than one year
Even Lord ALTHORP would be cured of his
single bank of issue theory. The fact
is that the Bank of England will not gain, in
the sense understood by Mr. Farren, by the
establishment of Joint Stock Banks. The pri-
vate deposits of the Bank of England have for
many years been accumulating, and the tendency
of having private banks of deposit limited to
six partners, would have been to make, in the
long run, those deposits increase till they had
obtained the custom of every one in London
thay would allow to open an account with them.
Such was the tendency of the old law, a ten-
dency which will receive a powerful check, if it
be not altogether arrested, by the establishment
of a Joint Stock Bank, of whose safety there
can be as little doubt as there has hitherto been
of the safety of the Bank of England.
The Bank will, therefore, not gain in the sense
meant by Mr. FARREN. We believe that it
will gain in security, for the real interests, even
of a monopoly, are strengthened by competi-
tion. The rivals ppssessed by the chartered
banks of Scotland, keeps them in a state of
greater security than the Bank of England
without rivals, has been, is, or will be. The
insecurity of the Bank of England has bee
wonderfully increased by the very course which
Lord ALTHORP has taken to diminish it. Buts
the establishment of joint-stock banks of deposit
in London, is a slight counterbalance in the way
of freedom, and therefore of security, against the
legal tender clause of the new Charter.

-The mercantile world generally, which Mr.
FARNEN also graciously condescends to warn,
wants, we imagine, simply to be let alone. Mr.
FA RREN, by advocating an intermeddling system
on the part of the Legislature, and the mainte-
nance of monopolies, trenches upon that plain
principle, and we hope that the time will shortly
arrive when the bare fact of a proposition
trenching upon the let alone system in commer-
cial dealings, will be counted sufficient cause at
once either to excite pity for the proposer's
blindness, or suspicions of his motives.