The Sun.
London, England, 1856-11-15 00:00:00

COANEII HOSPITAL, London and IVPst
Ilrompton.---recretary's .Office, 167, Piccadilly.—This Institu-
tion has heed exelndvely for the treatment of the po
.still,etod with cancerous diseases. Oft-door patientilb mteril at 161,'
Piccadilly, on Tuesdays, at 2 o'cldck. In-door pattontc.are admitted
at the Brompton Esta'aishinent, for one month. and for a longer
period if recoOmended ty the ,radical efficArs. oThenuinher of per-
rns under treatment as In or out-door patients have averaged for
the 1 -st three yes about 400 cases each year. Since the foundation
tv this-Hospital in 1851, 1,799 poor Persons. sutffrfug under every
form of thiS dr,adfal toslady. •have received the benedts of this
Chart y. A Weekly Board manage Its affairs, and every informa-
tion connected with the Insritution may be obtained on application
ti the Secretary. .Contrbutions to enable the Committee to continuo
this rent wicrk of benevolence. are urgently solicited, and may he
paid to William Loxham Farrar, E.g., the-Treasurer, 66. Lincoln's-
; Viessrs. Courts and Co., Strand; and at the-Secretary's
Offices,. 167, Picc411113,..

By ander.
' W. J. CO.CKERILL, Secretary.

COY AL 'FAEE. HOSPITA.L,•Gray's-inu-road.
, patrol—The Qq FIEN. Foupded 1828.
'. orderMr ad:mission is here required. The sick poor are admitted
Mn their ow* application
•
pulp,: the past month the following nutiaber received the )3eneflts
this charity., eithcr,as out or in-door patients, on their personal
opllcation t—
. Week ending 7tb 0ct0ber....,,.. 2,1F8
Ditto 14th October • ..• •• • 2,162
Ditto 21st Oct"ber . 2,075
Ditto 28th October.. •• ••• 2,24
29th, 30th, and 31st October

In O . •• • • 9,680
.t which 3,303 were new Total ctober
cases, the remainder (still under treat-
.lent) having been admitted previously.
ileavy expenses are inevitably incurred in affording such eaten-
'ye relief. The Committer, therefore, earnestly entreat the aid of
he public.
The management'a the Hospital is in 'the hands of 30 Governors,
early elected from thi.l, gener4l list of subscribers, at the
2tinuel
;'neral Meeting in anua'l7. A Board is held every Thursday, at
o'clock (Rey. J. B. ()sten, Chairman), to conduct the business,
vhen any subscriber may attend, !I so disposed, the Board being at
11 il.mes 4estrous of receiving suggestions 0, giving explanation. -
The
114041 is not endowed, but is wholly dependent on volen-
ary contributions and legacies, which arc received by tho freaswer,
ohn nasterman, Esq., MNicholns-lane; also by Messrs. Coutts
Lnd'Co. ; Drummond and Co.; Berries and Co:: Ransom and Co.;
'reseott, Orote, and Co. ; Smith, Paya,, and Co.; Glyn and Cu. ;
flees Loyd and Co.; :'arelay and. Co.; Denison and Co. ; )eaeon, and Co. ; Oaerend, Gurne, • and Co. ; Nisbet and Co., 13er-
ers•street ; Mesterman and Co.; and at the Hospital.
'Clothing for the destitute patients will he thankfully received.
By order. J. B. OWEN, M.A., Chairman..

'TAB, Ala TREASuIaS EXHIBITION.

Th. 4arl of Yarborough will contribute to the Exhibi.
Lion the 20 valuable pictures of which a list is subjoined.
In connection with the , two .paintings by Tamer which
are therein iocluded a noble example of generosity on the
Hart of the owner deServes to be prominently mentioned.
Some time ago " The Wreck of the Minotaur" was
being engraved by Mr. T. 0. Barlow, a gentleman
from the neighbourhood of Manehestei, and, in the
.course of- conversation with him Lord Yarborough in-
(piped what institution was it existence for the relief of
unfortur:ate artists, or those who were incapacitated by
infirmity. Being informed that 'the Artists Benevolent
Fund was an establishment with that object, Lord Yar-
borotigh soon afterwards employed Mr. Barlow to en-
graVe the other paintirrg by Turner, '''The opening of the
Vintagi3 at Macon," arid, presented the plates of both
plc-tures for the e*ciusive benefit of the institution above
named. The' erigraving of theie two plates Involved an
exuenditure by.hit lordship of upwards of 3,000/. In
order to -second this act of liberality to the utmost of
their power, the committee of the Art-Treasures- ExlAbi-
tieivhave resolved to allow the engravings to be placed
near the originals in the Eibibition, with the' hope that
the, copies way there find purchasers. Toe excellence of
Arbie;,object bas been thought guilicient to justify a depar-
Wre from the rule,, tba:i'no, work for sale shall be ad-
mitted to the Exhibition. The following is the list above
alluded to

1. GueicinO—The Annunciation.
2. Tintoretto—Descent from the Cross.
3. :Schiavone— Expulsion from Paradise.
4. A. Coy p—River Scene in Winter.
E. Sir T. Lawrence—J. P. Kembloras Corinlanus.
6. Turner—Wreck of the Minotaur on Haak-sands.
7. Turner—Opening of the -Vintage at Macon.
8. 0. Le Brun--Pers.us and Apilrouieda.
9. $. del hornbo—Taking down from the Cross.
10. Carlo D;tlce-:—St. Mary of Egypt.
11. Domenico Feti —A Parable.
12. N. Poussic—Rinaldo and Armida.

10. Domenichino—Laudscape, Baptism of Our Savi-
our.

• 14. Steenwick—lntericr of a church ; figures by J.
Frank.

15. TenierB—Landscape, with shepherds, cow, and
sheep. • ,
16. Claude Lorraine—Seashore at Sunrise, with five
figures.

17. Claude Lorraine—Small Landscape.
18. P. Battoni—Saerifiee of Iphigenia..
19. F Joseph and Potiphar's Wife.
20 Sir J. Reynolds—Portrait of Mrs. Pelham feeding
chickens,

The following pictures have been promised by
of Kincardine.:— • '
1: VelaNutz—Portrait, of Comte Dec Olivarez on
horseback,. • th e Earl
2. I.,onardo da Vinci—A. youth, A.iitonio Beltrafli.o,
3, Adam Rzbeirner—P, ter delivered from prison.
4. Smna,qiari de. Piornbo—Female portrait.
5. France C.-0 ALirona and Moretto di Breschia—An
old inan at an anvil.
The following pieturett will be contributed for exhibi-
ion by L'ird Fever,,batn:—
:-
1. Guido Reni—David and. Abi - •
2. Guido'Reni— gail.
Ch:lrity. -
3. Agostino' Cari•actii-L,* 'sca P nymphs,
pe,'th wi an,
an Cupid.
4. F. BaroCcio=Tbe Nativity.
5 • Elogartb—Garriek a.s'Aicliard 111.
Mr. lI.T. Rope has promised to Send the following :----
1. Rembrandt—Family Portraits.
2. Rernbrancit-Piain traversed by
Fa River.
3. Vander Heist—Landscae and i
4.. Jan Steen—A'Dinner p gores,
.-
5. Gerard Dow--,-Girl at a, Window.
.6. Paul Patter-A. Mali in a, Barn: '
7. Paul Ritter—Liu I, &e.-
•
8. Boon Vandel: Neer—Gentleman and Lady •
•
• 9.. Frans Mieris-TA. G-ntleman,
10. GaspeiNticher—Larly in Satin.
11.
12. Bacvan OslibuysSea. Coast and B 'at.
A. tade--Faniily in a Court-yard.
The following cdllection, odntri-Giited by Mr. Murray,
of Alberaaile's!reet,; will he interesting ..,n "account of the
number of poitvaits it includes of etaineut contributors
1. Hopnrth—The Baggar4' Opera.
.. ,
Tevicio : 7 -
2.:,
to t3b..
op::::111/Portrait of Coleridge.
E -lips--Portrs.it Of Crabby.
4. '4"I • 1) 'trit of John Mut ray
or
Phillips—Portrait of,Southey. .
' , 5. Pickervil—...
i:lof Gifford,,
~ 7. Iropplfer—Port
he,
rill-% of Lockhart, ' ' •
Foundling, llo'.:pital have con-
Ho extb's -vetebraced picture of
sented tit.) -Contribute
" tott'ulso a very fine portrait
,
t TG:ti Pe
I:koevesrgitii oll;:oPf et
h.e March to Finchley„ a .
, ~
' Cors'.n. Lord Maltuesbury will
'aro. "le Jud.,meat of by g •
j. d 1 .
of art
'" In connexion with the more m
'1 eiogarth, of Captain.
odern schools the
Paris," Gior ionc
bably
contributions continue co be of a most satisfactory cha-
'''ert and of these. a list will
pro be made public
in a few days. -

,
" BIG BEN" of WESTMINSTER....We are requested to
state that the clapper of "Big
Ben" weighs 12 Cwt, J.
ritead of 16. We
way also state, for the satisfaction of
Dr. Wy)de, that the E which " Big Ben" utters is the
drat Eof the bass, or an ootavL below the tenor 'of any
oommon-laige peal' of eight or ten bells of the note E.—
Times.

DEPLORABLE STATE OF A WHOLE FAMILY AND DEATH '
OF THE ISTOTHEIt —On Ttlursday
al family, catilisting of
a mother and her four children
were discovered in-e state
of nudity' and starvation at '7, .Walmer-place, -I'dar.ll'
bone—a house but partly inhabited, and, in.whiall
.thty
forwarded
concealed thetaselves. Informatiop waso
ttonce,
to the parish authorities who quickly I::,,tflia
ed, and baying a riliniatered fitiroubints to 1-,1-delmhappy.
sufferers suited W their sinking caudal,-
moved to the workhouse infirmary -4-'4l
the wretched,
,mere e
mother died yesterday Morrii:‘,.....
s The parish officers.
have learnt that the woman's name wa:m Ebzabeth lqaTin?
"; had them re-
and' hat she had formerly cohabited with a party named
aged.reiPedtively 14, 17, and 11 years, and a boy,.
k ai3d went berry
name. The children-6re%
girls;
;-ned 7—had, lag well as their unfortunate parent, been
„„olates,of the workhouse, but were on her request this,
charged in. September last.' llow they have been' livito
• in at preheigi_aimystery. _
sum •

2117ROPOLITA.N‘ Bo A RD OF TVORES,7„.

• r
',A meeting Of 'the M9troi)olitku Board of Works was'held
ip the Court of Queen's Bench, Guildhall, yesterday; Mr.
Thwaitealia the ch,tir.

NEW STREET-SOUTIIWARS. '
The Clerk (Mr. Woolrych) read the following letter from
the Chief Commissioner of the Board of Works :7.-

`,` Office of Works, &c., N0v..12.
" am'directed by the First Commissioner of her
,Majesty's WOrks, &e., to return to you herewith, approved
by him, the plan submitted to him on the 10th inst. by a
,deputation from the Netropolitati Board of Works. for a
new line of street between High-street, Southwark, and
Stamford-street, Blackfriars, and to request that you will
be so good as to move the Board to furnish the First Corn-
missioner with a copy of that plan, to be retained in this
office.

"The First Commissioner, however, feels it to be his
duty. to state that he had received some dePutations, and
had seen several persons on this subject, and that, although
they expressed various views as to the line of street and
some of the features of the scheme, they almost all agreed
that it would: he very asirable to remove tho block of
buildings situated between High-street and Counter-street.
The First Commissioner pointed out that these buildings
were coloured for insertion in the schedule, and that the
Metropolitan Board would therefore have full power to
render the iinprovement,still more complete if they should
find it necessary or expedient to do so.—l am, Sir, your
obedient servant, •-•

" ALFRED AUSTIN, Secretary."

DRAINAR: OF THE METROPOLIS.

Mr. CARPMAEL rose to call the attention of the Board to
the letter which hall bieri received from the First Commis•
_ _

sionor of her Majesty's Works, in which he stated that the
plan submitted to him as regarded the outfall of the sewage
of the metropolis Was at variance with the intentions of the
Legislature and contrary to the spirit ,of the statute, and
that he was therofkire bound to return it, withholdin2, his
-approval: Sir B. Halt, in the last paragraph of his letter,
had invited a 'deputation from that board to confer with
him upon the subject of the drainage of the metropolis, and
ho (Mr. Carpinael3 thought the board might, by having an
interview with that gentleman, come' to's, better under-
standing on a matter in. which.bOth the board and the First
Commissioner were equally interested. He was of opinion
that A depntation should meet Sir B.'Hall and confer to"-
gether upon all the plans. He trusted.that on the patient
occasion gentlemen would restrain their feelings. Let there
be a conference by which the views of the board' on the
subject of the drainage of the metropolis might be made
known to the First Commissioner, and his views thereon:
be made known to them. Without intending to abandon
his own opinion, still he wished to deal with the subject
in a practical manner. It was said that generally the great
attairs of the world were carried on in the spirit of conapio-
mice. He believed it was so, and he was willing to act
upon that principle on the present occasion ; and if the
board supported him in that course he.had no doubt they
would arrive at a satisfactory result. He therefore begged
to <Move
" That the Chief Commissioner of her Majesty's Works
having suggested the propriety of a conference between
himself antra deputation of this board, be it resolved that
the ehairthan and the following members [l2 or 14 as may,
ho agreed upon], accompanied by the engineer and clerk,
be a deputation to confer with the Chief Commissioner on
the various plans for intercepting the sewage of the metro-
polis."

Mr. DENNIS seconded the motion. He thought the least
said at that time the better; he should therefore refrain
from stating his views on the subject. •
Mr. TURNER was not opposed iu principle to the appoint•
anent of a deputation, but he thought it of great importance
that in going to the First Commissioner it should ba
thoroughly understood between the board and the Com-
missioner what were their objects and what were the sub-
joets to be discussed. If he understood the letter of Sir B.:
Hall aught, what he proposed was, Do,t that the board
should have a free conference with him on all the plans,
including plan B, but, that excluding plan B, they should
have a conference with him on the other plans. That was
a position in which the Board ought u„t to be placed. They
ought to confer on plan B as well as on other plans.
The CIIAIRMAN—As I understood it, the whole question
will be open for discussion with the Chief Commissioner.
Mr. TURNER wished it to be so expressed in the resolution.
The Chief Commissioner objected to plan B, saying that it
did not satisfy the requirements of the act ; "but," said he,
"you tell me there are other plans, to which I can say
neither aye nor nay until I have seen them; if you have
such other plans I am willing to see you on the subject"—
thus excluding from his own mind plan B. Now, he was
of opinion that the Board should tell the First Commissioner
that they adhered to plan B, but that he having opposed it
they were willing to have a conference with him on the
whole subject. Let this course be taken, and no mistinder•
standing could then arise.
Mr. BRISTOW thought the object of the conference de•
sired by the First Commissioner was to remove all obstacles
in the we.y of any plan that might be approved of.; and
that the Board was left entirely free, except in so far as
they were bound equally with the First Commissioner by
the provisions of the act of Parliament.
Mr. WILKINSON pointed to the last paragraph of the
letter, in which it was expressly said that if the Board
should de,ire to see the First Commissioner previously to
the consideration of any plans (not any other plan) he
would be happy to receive a deput‘tfou. 'Their conference
with him, therefore, would be unembarrassed by any pre-
vious decision whatever.
Mr. D'IFFANGER was anxious that those whe were in the
minority when plan B was adopted by the majority of the
Board should be fairly represented in-the deputation. The
whole Board, if they thought proper, ought to be at libeity
to attend.

Mr. 11. L. TAYLOR said itnppeared to him that the Board
were about to abandon that independent character it was
their duty to maintain, and which was one of the chief ele-
ments of the principle of self-government. They had been
discussing the question of the main drainage of London for
many months past, and had at last come to a resolu-'
tion to adopt a plan which the great majority of the Board
believed complied with the act of Parliament. The .Minis-
ter, however, rejected it; and immediately every member
appeared eager to wait on that Minister in order .to allay
any angry feeling in his mind. (Oh, oh.) The most inde-
pendent course would be for the Board to stand by that
which they had agreed to, and not be influenced by the
opinion of one individual merely. It appeared to him that
they were taking- a course'most derogatory to the interest
not only of that Board, but of the public at large. It might
be thought by some simple-minded men that they were
going to. Sir B. Hall to discuss with him on the scheme B,
which had been adopted by them, but there never was a
greater mistake: In his letter the First. Commissioner ob-
served, " It appears that at every time up to the 6th Oct.
last, when plan B was before the Board, it was set aside,"
and he addel these words:--" The First Commissioner
agrees with the Board in the several decisions arrived at;
which he considers to have been quite correct. In those
two lines he had stated his views upon the very.plan which
the Board ought to set their heart and mind upon. r He
defied the Minister to maintain the veto which he had so
incautiously and inconsiderately placed upon a plan
than which no better plan could be suggeited with the ad-
dendum that was placed against it—viz, that if the plan
were to be carrion further down the river the Board had
no objection, provided the funds for defraying the ex-
pense wore furnished by the Government. He would
therefore advise the Board to adhere to 'their plan, and let
Sir B. Hall, if he pleased, confer with Lord Palmerston,
nerv,eyhiandg thehe peeowweegret of
asratynethr adtetwhne
the Board, felt hiMielf degraded by the course proposed
tawhmheooru'invatesrrFescihzulOniurleedd7fboeirnifcsoorthcoming. He, as a member of Minister,
to be pursued,—that of placing themselves on their
knees before a Minister of the Crown, and offering
to become his creatures. (Qh, oh.) Was it a course
betotniug an iudepeftdent body of men to pursue ? E very
plan having hitherto been rejected, the only alterna-
tive left to the Board appeared to be that of resolving
to take the sewage down to Sea Reach. with a,proviso
that the money should be furnished by the Government.
This appeared to him to be the only way left by which
they could maintain their own views, and at the sometime
comply with the wishes of the Minister.
Mr. DouVrog said it was not correct to state that a de.
Timeileti, tbtioeo:
were
.: tpfiornla:cotowi
practical
.theiavns
(410,17,:te,,
f Commissioner
twheereadt-oviscaeyo,f't`hWe eliwill
adhere to plan B, and will not carry out any other plan,"
itt,.thh:wou:oß
Board
could
Commissioner..
. 3l ey nogtoeiin
continue
out
anodundttios:tpr
our u.
adopted
t andi
ehe re
anvdtet
joerii:et
raht
twos
le,toetßti
chdvoieneat rohidniiiteiht
dignity shi
eelavi
ilcifa.
ytf
tseeablyly:nwatwhlif
all felt
fsothtienstedh he wasebiyv
espi
tattottn that:Bei:jag:is:i otivf
e::: d e Intutationdhould go up to the
11mayaljeorr.itIyt
tw...,,haari hiiimptessien that the board, titight to
large 7. pass nothingPatanall-7
t that *as tbb
would so could
I t
had not
.bean
1 se
ne p
,decideda se e d tb Sib ay 1 i
se
1..i.13.43 thp,ii
3c.un
is.
elVo.l3l,thrta: etroe
tthey
,ettoof discussp ar
Parliament--what
" Ti•iiir 1 when they Usti:dais i *IT thliti di:
part from it?
tnnussioner ? '' Would he not say to them',
is it to calla to
Sir B. Hall
..t_ me to talk about what I daunot accept ?"
it pi t tea in hitt letter '
to he at' say tat jie was aitsu td
to the act: 1t... :rlbe told thltith that, the plaii*at contrary
ts usewen.
it wool t 4 iir
dtaid that if they should fail in this Case
'll6n. member fel estruotion of the Board itself ; but the
not the Board, nagoit; that it was possible Sir B. Hell; and
had got into a'tlilr tgo to OA wail, He was the piny said
said that in his 0 li.ltY-, and not they: If Sir B. Hall lied
that ho 'celled ttrt 911 plan B was contrary the act, but
point, wail itkitield
itvea
mcnference with the Board 01l that
deputation,biat it *amigul 'l3
a Pioliai• Boerie to al/Nit:lt a
letter that riothin ; obvious frtim the whole tenor of his
sole object tt Sir Itg.. I?a.that tort was Meant', dttd'that tha
lie had
iareati,
u_ _
ce-. 11 t`e.t to dlaciiss goiiitlthlug.onviehieh
Mr, Oppeft 4.,,etnaa1i.,11,P his mind.
. the .•
lion, b.eansn, if
R. proviety of appointing a deputa-
propis© by which ih one co' 1 ad Wine itiAinificent plan to
carried down to the North elsa,
taut flow the sewage might be
to be made acquainted R , the Board „night by all image neither violated the equity, a it.
He contended thatplan B.
of the act of. Parliament ,;hiat might be called ,nor tile.mwds'
'would go perfectly unfettered t t being so,
. the deputation
to learn from hint why it was It'l confek with Sir B. Hall, and
which a large majority or the iat he had objected to a plan
and so good. the depotA • le litlard thought"had
so reasonable
Alen lei ave
the Board, but en their return
" - no powertoplcdge
be all better informed and thettih
tehy would feel themselves to
they would adhey to t'hum Ls or ado 1' cottld consider whether
Mr. WARS ~tild in his opinion th(l3) some other plan.
to tlidrilaependenea or their dignity l'"ul4.be no detriment
Vvitll Si': B, /411, . On the contrary, y m having au int.,rview
~ , it would 'be evidence rimottaness and spleen en their part if, after of
what
.. alloy had
Ilene 'theinselles, thoi were to decline the invitation con-
tained in i.e li. Ralreletter.
Mr. OfiELLIR 'said it was well known that his opinion
the disposal of the sewage was that it should not gO initoustitie
river at all. Ho knew not what the views of Sir B. Hall on.
that subject might be, ihasrauch as,the matter had not yet
been'fairly placed beforb him. An, Opportunity (night to he
afforded to the First Commissioner to form an t ;
op.n.on upon
that important point:
Mr. Fhw thought the most natnral course they could pursue
,was to send a deputation to the chief Commissioner. The
letter of Sir B. Hall made no allusionwhatever to the offer of
-.1,t0 Board to carry the sewage further down the river, pro-
( vidird' Government would pay for it., That part of tleir re-
, solution was left nnausweed, and inetegi of anli.we4tig it sir

It was their duty,

- .
Benjamin invited them to a conference.
ttlorefore;' to• accept the invitatidn„
Mr. BlJeceo ask:,i hoW they would begin their letter to Sir
Benjimin 'Hall, supposing they, agreed to a conference ?
Would they say " The Board having had this •Matter before
them, they desired to see the First Ceitimisiduci "Why,
they did not desire auk such thing. (Hear, hear.) They had
adopted a plan for the drainage of London which they be-
lieved to be the very best that -could 'be"'deviSed: and they
intended to adhere to it: ear,,heu,r.) ~He believed Sir B.
Hall would decline all,discussion Olt pied t3,.` and would ask
the deputation Whether' therhadlnp ctitllet=pl rt,to' propose.
Ho hoped, in that case, the answer' the-deputation would
be, " NO, unless you hitting° to' tig that the cost shall bo
paid by the government." • - •
Mr: LeaLIE objected, to the resoiutiol,r, lreiuse. it did not
comply with the terms Of Sir B. Hall's iiavitation. All the
plans, A, B, C, and D, had been rejected, the two former by
the First •Commissioner. and the two lattetJ by4liat board
itself.. They were therefore net prepared with any plan to
lay before the Commissioner. .
Mr: Deputy HARRISON, in supporting, the
~reotiou that a
deputation be sent to Sir B. Hall, to6k the opportunity of
pointing out the Course he thought it likely the deputation
woul take in reference to plan B. The chief Commissioner
hail rejected that plan because, in his opinion, the loafed
was at variance with tlfe intentions of the.'Legislature. In
this instance therefore he had givery a reason for the rejection
of the plan: Again, he said that it was contrary to the
spirit. of the statute.. That was a second season. Now,
when .he should come to talk With Sir B. tiall ou the. subject
—he would not do it disrespectfully batt4ke ,should do it
firmly—he would tell Sir Benjamin that the words of the
act of Parliament were equally, binding Tr hint and on _the
board, and that it was not for him to be tie interpreter of
•the intentions of the Legislature, -nor was. it for him to say
that the plan was contrary to the Spirit' of the act, He
(Mr. Deputy Harrison), on the contrary, maintained that the
plan B was within the provisions of the act. He repre-
sented upwards of 1,001,0001.,storling:of rateable value,
and 'ho had to consider whether ho was justified in con•
senting to an outlay- beyond. what was for the benefit 9f

those who were the owners of that property. The act only
gave the Board 'power to execute works for the benefit of
. the metropolitazt..districts,_ Re alb. 3t they might safely
have un interview with Sir B. „Hall without compromising
themselves in any way, and it wa4
„poSSible they might con-
vince him that they were .right.-:in•the conclusion at which
they had arrived. The difficulty in which the Board was
placed arose from the MO. clause? by the introduction of
the words `! in. or near the metropolis." If those words
could be erased there would Ise no difficulty at all. He should
rejoice to see the noble work which had been intrusted to
them completely executed, but nothing should induce him
to cenSent to do anything beyond what they were empowered
to do lii act of Parliament.
- Mr. .11A1V:fatil did not think there was any diffieulty 4n under-
standing thh act. It. was perfectly clear that, in saying the
sewage waS not to fall " in or near 'the metropolis," it could'
not be meant that you should merely take it one mile off in
a tidal river. Ifelifought that to be the most valuable por.
tion of the het, and he,trristed.Sir :B:slkwould not discuss
42 that question with the deputation.- The whole money) that
might be!erended would be thiswivu away if the sewage were
only to he Taken that insignificant distance beiend the limits
of the metropolis. . •
Mr. NIC LtOL AY said, as it was Admitted they were in a diffi-
culty, it was a matter of policy find expediency that they
should go before the Chief Commissionei to remove that diffi-
culty ; but he believed the .Chief_Commissionor was in as
great. a difficulty as themselves. If, therefore, it were found
that they could not properly'fulfil,theiediityl they ought to
ask Parliament for enlarged powers tio enable them to accom-
plish the Work set before them.,
~ ,„
Mr. CAM,manr,, in reply., said that what. he proposed was, -
that the deputation should Meet"Sir4B. lAll'and discuss with
him the veious plans of inbercePtihg iewgige which had been
before the Board. There were only,plans A, B, C, and D.
Those, thOefore, constituted.the whole pith of the question.
He thought his friend Mr. Tayloilld fallen into S. mistake in
calling thei Board an independent Boar'd.! They: were acting
in concert hvith another Board—nathely, her, Majesty's Board
Of Works.; The Metropolitan Boardhad the power of origi-
nating,plausL--her Majesty's
,Board of Works had not that
power,,bnit had' the powe rto vetothe hots of the Metropolitan
voard. T.Okerefae,schenaver a differencearose between these
two boardS, he fetild.not'cenceive a better course to pursue
than that they :sliduld lia4e a conference together. It was
following a very high exerhple,•fer•it was the practice of the
two Houses of Parliameut .when they differed on some par-
ticular previsions of a .measure, which they were otherwise
desirous of carrying, to have a'cOnterence; and so adjust the
matter: r-

The motion was then put agreed and to.
A diseaission then ensued a' axattie ,number of naenalons
that should co' stitute the deputatiop. Various members
were proposed and rejected; but finally it was agreed, by a
division of 25 for, and 13 against, that the depitation shoUld
consist of,the chairman, I'2 members of the board, the en-
gineer, and clerk. '. • .
Almost; every member who-spoke on this point availed
himself of the opportunity otrearguing the propriety of ap-
poiating any deputation at all. • .
Mr. H. L. TArtoa said thit. every member who represented
a large cc nstitueney ought to be., presedt at the interview,
and obsetved that if Sir s;••l4,llhada4p.ted the course ivs2.4l
Lord Seymour would have do and d, before ignoring;.their plaps, had a conference *M .-the board, all the diffi-
culty th 4 had' occurred might hate be avoided. It was
well to have a giant's strength, bat it was tyranny to use it
like a alt. - • -
Mr. DTlreaireia expreised his gr4illF.ation at the tone of
respect which had been observed by almost all the speakers
towards•ptr B. Hall on the Dreis,atocaystan. Tie did net,
apprehend that any inconvenience arduld arise from a fell
attendance of members-at the• conference. He had been .
present when _many 100113 than 4VICerSOns waited on Lord
Palmerston on the subject of Hanapstead-heath, and there
was no crowding or any confusion whatever.
The board then proceeded te :non:dilate the deputation,
when on a show of hands the
:
Mr. Harrison, Mr. Nichela.y, Mr, Doulton, aja. Rows, Major_
L 3 on, Captain Barnett, Mr. Briitow, Mr. Seeley, Mr.
THE ENGlNay:,Bl:"Rpoi:g.w.
Wrighti Mr. Turner, Mr: Few, and Mr. Car el.
Mr.) ISSUE took occasion to remark., that the size of the
appointed
reservcars as originally proposed by the engineer had been
.alterecUsincethe plan had been decided "upon by the board.
It was first agreed that the reservoir en the north side of the.
metropolis should be 3 i acres, and the reservoir on the south
side 15i acres. These had been greatly reduced in their di-
mensions,, and be wishedlo have some explanation from the
enginety on the subject.
Mr I.I47ALGETTE said Vlore
• , . was no ground for the state-
ment
made by, the hon. Member, and, then read from his re-
port- the, following passage
a I tecammend that for 'll inbuthB in the year the dis-
charae?of the sewage into the river 'should take place at high
water,. and during the first,balf of thecbb tide ; and that for
the reMaining 20 or 30 days of heavy. rain the discharge of the
then, diluted sewage should also take place one or two hours
before high Water, liy which means a reduction of the size
the ectrered resaev'eir' from 15 to 4 acres -might be effeetW
and an increase of it obtained, so that it would contatiu alieut
2,500,000 cubic feet. In other Words, it Would not rte. &bre
than half 'full during nine months in the year, and'4ould••
leave the other half of the reservoir il•ee fot the storage of up-
wards of a million •cubic feet, of rain during the remaining '
three monthi.'' This will'be found suffieient, probably, for
the next 15 or 21years,.and it woula be,better hereafter, if
necessary, to enlarge the reservoir rather than now to ,sprOad
its contents over a more extended surface. •
" The foregoing instructions, laoivever, direct the pre-
paration of a plan for the discharge Of .the sewage at and after '
high-water only. I therefore beg to report, so sudden and
unequal are the quantities of rain that.fall, that, to avoid the
discharge of the sewage before high-water on the 20 or 30
days per annum, would. necessitate the construction 'uf, a
reservoir of double the size uow pro Posed, at an increased.
estimated cost of about 40001." •. • '
MS. ;MiCLEAN'3
By Mr. M'Clean's plan it is proposed to take the sewage
from the 'West Ham station, ing4se4, througla the river
Crouch into the German Ocean. it S. M. Peto is an advo-
cate of this mode of disposing of the 'ivfitgo, and the follow-
ing letter, from that gentleman, addressed to Mr. Thwaites,
the chairman, on the subject was reed by the clerk :
"My dear Sir,—l, wrote' yo'u' some time since on. Mr.
M'Clean's plan, and so strongly are I impressed that it is the
right thifig to do, that, with the hbpe that the Chinf.commis-
slow, yourself, and your 'colleagues, Will yet adept. it, I
have, with my friends, directed Mr:. Day, of 43, Parliament-
street, td eat the Parliamettary notices, so that if you ?hould
approve we maylx...iu time.for 44 next session.
ehould,be..prepared to execute it for a fixed sum, and
if yOu will pay 4 per cent. on it, Malt list-us have the manure
froni the sewage, I will guariatee its being-carried out,
",1 believe you will field it the best plan in every point of
view, and leave the • Purification of the Tna,mes not, a matter
of doubt, but of certainty. • •
MORTON' PET°.
" New Lowestoft, Nov. ' -• • " s-.
13
.theßoardbus=
Alter the dispbeal of someronthie
I am, my dear 'Sir, trtly andlaithfully yours,
adjourned. •, ;

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TIIACKEUtirS-.THIRD LEE:TUVE.

(From the Scotsman.)
Last night (Tuesday) Mr. Thaikeray delivered the third
lecture in the Music-hall to a crOwded audience. The reign
of the Third tl-eorge was hie' snbject, and-he introduced it
by observing that, in the long ,period of Sixty years over
which this reign extended, " England had to undergo the
revolt of the I.kinerican colonies ; to submit to defeat ; to
gigantic enemy Na-
• shake under ;the volcano -of the French Revolltion ; to
grapple and fight for the life; with her
; to gasp and rally after, that-tremendous struggle ;
' the old society, with its courtly splendours, had to pass
away ; gene4ations of statesmen to rise and disappear ; Pitt
to follow ohlithain to,the tomb ;. the memory of Rodney
and Wolfe to b 3 succeeded by -Nelsen and Wellington's
glory ; the Old poets Who uhite us to Queen Anne's time
to sink into their gniiver; Johnson to die, and Scott and
Byron to aris(s); Garrick to delight, the world with his
d'azzling d4matic geuius, and Kean to leap on the stage
and take possession of the astonished theatre. Steam
had to be IT -anted; kings to be beheaded, deposed; re-
stored; Napolf3on to be lint an episode; and,George 111. is
to be alive through all these varied changes, to accompany
his people through those revOliftione of thought, govern.
meut, society, and survive out Of the old world into ours.
When I first saw England .she was in mourning for the
young Princess Charlotte—the hope of the empire. I came
from ludia SS a child, and our ship touched at an island on
the way'hospe; where my black servant took me a walk
over rocks and hills till we passed a garden where wo saw
a man walking.. That is he, said the black man, that is
Bonaparte; he e'at's Lie° sheep every day, and al! the
children on whom ha can lay hands. There 'were people in
the British doiniiiions besides that poor black who had an
equal terror and horrorof the Corsican ogre.
It is from the correspondence addressed to George Sel-
wyn that the folleit and most intinstite•aequainteneo-mith
the manners of the time of the Third George is to be de-
rived. Selwyn was a fine gentleman and a wit ; but
there must have been something really attractive about
Ihim that made him the correspondent and confidant of so
many men of such apposite characters. His letters had not
the atfeetatieu of rWalpole's, and were not so terrible in
their •revelations as Harvey's Memoirs; they were more
natural than .4' Horace'e dandified treble or Sporus's ma-
lignant whisper." The " fine gentleman" who was unceas-
ingly represented in them, with more than a hundred of
'whom we might still make acquaintince through George
SelWyn,'is altnost vanished off the face of the earth. We
have not,now children who stand in reverential awe of
theinprents, and go down on their knees to beg their
blessing ; servants who .are saying " your honour" and
" your worship" at 'every word ; or chaplains who say
grace, and retire with the pudding. We cannot now fancy
Mr. Pitt's Under Secretary not daring to stand in the
preeence of his superior, or the same Mr. Pitt, as Earl of
Chatilim„kneeling before the King while transacting bri-
Si ess with him, and bursting into tears because his Majesty
deigned to 13!i kind. Fancy Lord John Russell or Lord Pal-
merston on their knees while their sovereign is reading a
despatch, or beginning to cry because Prince Albert has said
something civil. These letters make us see Charles Fox
cursing over the cards, Lord March calling the odds at
I,l,ewmarket,,Burgoyne gaily tripping off from St. James's
to conquer America, and sneaking back somewhat abashed
without having accomplished that business, the Prince of
Wales stepping into at club'and hurriedly asking a thou-
sand questions-about other p,eople's affairs. From these
lettert he dreW the portrait of Dr. Warner, a chaplain,
who confessed thitt he did not believe in his,religien, but
thanked Leaven he was not so bad as a lawyer Who talked
of haiingceme home from "a hard day's christening"—
a boisterous and uproarious parasite, who revelled in the
thoughts of ox • cheek and Burgundy, who licked the
blacking from the Duke of Queensberry's shoes with. a
gusto, liking it almost as well as the best Claret in old
Queensberry's cellar, but was goodhearted withal, bens.
relent, and is recorded to have occasionally delivered good
sermons. The commencement of this reign was the most
dissolute period our country aver knew. George the Se-
cond's bad morals bore tfieii fruit in George the Third's
early years-, as I believe a knowledge of that godly man's
(George the Third's) good example, lics moderation, his
frugal simplicity, his God-fearing life, tended infinitely to
improve the morals of the country, and purify the whole
nation. •

Next to Dr. Warner, perhaps the best drawn character
id ~i,elwyn's correspondence was Lord Carlisle, the grand-
father of the present Viceroy of Ireland, who had been
well nigloitsined by the awful debauchery and extravagance
then in fashiro. The dissoluteness of society was terrible.
It had swarmed over Europe after the peace. It brought
aingiog,women and dancing women from all the operas in
Europe, on whom my lords lavished thousands, while they
lefes,their honest wives and their honest children pining in
lonely splendour in the castle and park at home. Lord Car-
lisle was one, however, who, after passing through a sea-
son of riotous pleasure—in which he never altogether forgot
that he had a good wife and children—finally settled down
into a sober country gengeman. It was different with
Lord March, afterwards Duke of Queensberry. The le-
gends about old Queensberry wen's awful,',but almost in our
own time, the gambling, wrinkled, palsied old Don Juan
had died as wicked and unrepentant a 3 .in his hottest days
of youth and passion. It is to the middle glasses we must
look for ,the society of England ; the working educated
man, away from Lord North's bribery in the notate ; the
active clergy, not corrupted into parasites by hopes of pre-
ferment; the tradesmen rising into opulence ; painters
pursuing the gentle art ; men of letters in their quiet stno::r
—these are the men we love and like to read of in these
days. How small the grandees and men of pleasure look
beside them ! How contemptible the story of George the
Third's court squabbles beside the recorded talk of dos.
old Johnson ! In their nights at the club, their modest
caps never ended in riots. There was Goldsmith so odd
and natural, Burke the finest talker in the world, Gar-
rick flashing in with a story from his theatre, with Percy,
and Langton, and poor •Bozzy at the table. Not
merely how pleasant, and how wise, but how good the
men were ! Relating how Johnson carried an old woman
on his back'down Cheapside, and how Burke, in returning
from the club, encountered a poor Magdalene to whom l
spoke in his kind, wise way, and whose tears so moved him
that he took her home to his wife And family, until he
could find her an honest way of living—" Oh ! you fine
gentlemen," said the lecturer, " you March, Selwyn, Ches-
terfield, how small you look by the side of those great
men." Johnson, more than a whole bench of bishops, more
than Pitt, North, and the great Fox himself, had the ear
of the nation, and his great voice reconciled it to autho-
rity. When George the Third talked to him, and when
the nation heard Johnson's opinion of the sooereign, a whole
generation tallied to the throne. He was regarded as a sort
of oraolo ; and when he declared for church and king, the
people followed him. What a humanity the good old man
hid. He was a fierce foe to all sin, but a gentle enemy to
all sinners. He had the " liberty of the scenes," as he called
it at the theatre, and occasionally made use of it. " The
actresses know me," said he, " and drop a curtsey as
they pass." What a picture this would make, the lecturer
thought—" Gaiety so tenderly surveyed by wisdom's mer-
ciful pure eyes."
Introducing a brief sketch of Lord Bute, hated with a
rage of which there are few examples in English history,
hated because ho was a favourite, " and shall I say it,
because he was a Scotchman"—the butt for Wilkes's de-
vilish mischief, and Chatham's slashing satire—he deli-
neated in strong terms the shrewd, hard, "dothineering
mother of George the Third, who acknowledged her son
was a dull boy, but kept continually croaking in his ear,
" George, be a king." Of the character of that monarch
Mr. Thackeray then entered upon an elaborate sketch.
George inherited his mother's bigotry and hatied, -with
the obstinacy of his .race ; but he was a firm
_believer
where his fathers wore unbelievers, and he supported the
chnrch, of which be was the titular head. He did not
like Fox, Reynolds, Nelson, Chatham, nor Burke ; he
loved mediocrity ; Benjamin West was his favourite
painter, Beattie his favourite poet. He lamented in after-
life that his education had been neglected, that he was a
dull lad brought up by narrow-minded people. The clevor-
est tutors could have done little probably to expand th.st
small intellect, though they might, perhaps, have improved
his taste, and taught his perceptions more generosity. Ho
admired as well ae he could. To Hannah Lightfoot, the
actress, hevias said to have been married, although I never
know of any one who had seen the register; and there was
laughing, black-haired Lady Sarah Lennox, who used to
make hay at him en the lawn of Holland House, and who.
died in our own time, the mother of the heroic Napi ors.
He married the Princess Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Streli'tz
although it was said he winced a little when first he saw/
her—*ind for years they led one of the happiest and sim-
plest of lives ever led by married couple. Their time was
spent in the moat regular manner. In the evening they
would have a country dance, at which the king would
dance for three hours to one tune, after which deli-
cious excitement they would go to bed without any
supper. He was fond of music, and the theatre was
always his delight. The smallest jokes would set him off
laughing, and when the clown swallowed a carrot or a
string of sausages, ho would roar and hullabaloo so out-
rageously that the loielylprincess at his side•had
and to say,
"My glorious monarch do compose yourself he
• continued to laugh as long as his little wits were left him.
The simple, stubborn, affectionate, bigoted man earnestly
tried to learn, and succeeded in perfectly acquiring
allathe . routine parts of the royal business. Who
could wonder that with such a man to rule and lead
the people, to declare war, and to decide who his mil-
Hops ofAubjects were to slay, and who they wale to be
fr;•ends with, humiliation and failure should ):)e the result.
}George the Third Was always at war with the aristocracy ;
'it was he and the people that carried on the American