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language. lie wotild even go farthetsesancl adaa,
that if the Measures of Ministers were even
not condemned, but only not approved of, still
it might be fair-to propose to remove the Ministers,
'but he had no conception of Gentlemen saying they
approved of the measures, and would still, if possi-
ble, remove the men. If this principle was once
-adopted, in what a situation, would the Constitution
he placed. The,. light of that House to address
His Majesty to remove, his Ministers, on proper
grciunda, was-- incontestible ; but to suppose that
the House had a right to remove Ministers without
assigning any public ground whatever, was incori.
sistent with every principle of the constittition.
It would take from the Crown- the right' of
choosing its own Servants, and make the
,Ofce
of Minister the subjei't of 'personal canvass.
It' was true, that in 5784 there was an Addreis to
remove Ministers, without any charge against
their public conduCt; hut even in that case there
was an allegation of their baying come,improperly
into Office, though' that was found by no means to
be the public' Opinion: - He wished' merely to be
tried by his public' condul, and he could 'answer
for himself, and he believed for his Colleagnes in
Office, that if-Parliament disapproved of:their tnea.
sures, they 'would not wish ro continue one rulo-.
ment 'longer in Office. If their , measures - were
not found -to be consistent with the lionour :and
interests of the' Country, they would not at-
tempt to set up Prerogative against- Privilege, in
any case where ihe'exeicise of the latter was really
constitutional. if 'the Kilig had the nomination of
his Ministers, Parlianient oughi -to control' them,
tee watch over them, and -to examine their Mea-
sures ; and upon this principle- the safety of the
Constitution depended:' He hoped that Parliament
would always endeavour,to preserve -to. the Crown•
its proper place in the Constitution, while 'they
maintained their own Privileges, and to the °pi.,
nion of Thrliament His Majesty:shiWinisters would'
always submit themselves whetscrie2tlit was ex-
pressed.
. Sir .FRANCIS BURDETT said, that in, his
•
opinion the
,question now before the House was as
important a question ,as' ever was. offered for the
considesation of Parliament, for it was, Whether. the
Hou,e should agree to larger Militaq Establish-
tnent than ever :been offered at any former period
in, time of Peace, .:and that on the' mere general
around of the, situation of the Country and of Eu-
ope, withciut at all specifying what that sitaatioo
was. He was desirous of delivering ,his, ,sentiments
on thae,question, as well as to animadvert on some
things which had fallen out in the course of the.
Debate, which„ bad taken place on tilts subject.---,
One Honourable Gentleman had complained- that the.
forms 'of the House-had not been duly complied
I with, inasmuch as that there was not a regular
communication from the Throne, whereon the House
might aft, and be regularly Called upon toata that
observation appeared to him to be founded on sound
sense and good principle, and he thought it became
Ministers, on such an occasion as this, to have laid
some such, or 'some other authentic and, regular in-
foa-mation before the House, before they called upon
ii to assent to such a vote as this. On the subjed
of the Balance of Power of Europe, he said, he
agreed with an Hon. Gentle Man opposite to him,
(Ir. WILBERFORCE). He did not say that we
should not have any Continental ConneCtion, but
that we should, as much as - possible, abstain
from becoming Principals in such connections,
for that led. us to be concerned in the quar-
rels of others, in a manner that was highly in-
jurious to our interests ; we might, indeed, some-
times. add our weight, but we ought never to -ex-
bust our strength in the adjustment of Continental
Disputes. A doarine contrary to this,had been too
often followed, and it was a very objeetionable prac.
rice, for it gave Ministers an opportunity of invol-
ving- the People of this Country in the at-tainment
of objects, the interests of which to us might be
very doubtful, .and sometimes might not, exist ; so
that the people did not join in it, and thus a War
might,be said, not to be the War of the People ; and
this was of itself an evil. Many things, had been
said concerning the talents of a Right Hon. Gentle-
man (Mr. 1311.1.1.), who had not vet attended in the
present Parliament. Uralteasant as it was to speak
of ,the charaftee of any man, yet the turn which
part of the late Debates of the House had taken,
rendered it necesary that he should say a few words
upon that subjeA : it was an unpleasant, but it avast
a public duty, afor a Member of' Parliament to de-
liver his opinion on .the charaCter of another, when-,
ever that was made a subjea of reference to Public
affairs. The Country was stated, by those who
Most admired the abilities of that Right Hon. Gen-
tleman, and who now called for his return to power,
to be in a state of the utmost danger ; they said,
that the present moment was big with alarm—that
the appearance of things was gloomy beyond
former example. In allthis he agreed with
those Gentlemen ; • 'but lie confessed they sur-
prized hint very much, by their expression of a
desire to see that Right Hon. Gentleman in his for-
mer situation '; for he had' no . difficulty in saying,
that it was his-opinion most of the difficulty which.
we now felt was owing to that person. No indivi-
dual, in his opinion, had contributed so much to
bring us into our present situation as that Right
Hon. Gentleman. But it seemed that 99 people
out of ;too were for the return,of that Gentleman to
hi 3 former station. Who these' 99 were he,did not
know. He did not say that he had,any peculiar
means of arriving at the .koovidedge of the opinions
of the Public, but from all the opPottnnities he had
had, he was assured that ,no persons ever went out
of office with more complete public indignation and
'hatred than-the late -Is.dininistiation.—With respen
to the qwestion More iMmediatelY before the House,
which- was a question' on the -Peace Establishmen!,
it was' admitted to be great, because Ministers
said we had no choice but that of two evils—that
of the expellee of 'your own preparation on the
one hand, and the French Power on the other._
He looked on the proposed Forec as very great ; but
that was not *hat he obleCted to so 'much, as that
this was only part' of-a system Which led to other
much' more objeffionable Measures, such as Barracks,
Pensions, and so forth, upon which topics he expa_
- tiated at considerable length, and contended that
such a system of things was delthive, and said, that
•aotnethins •must be- done to regain the affections of

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