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PURSUANT to a Decree of the High Court of
Chancery, made in a cause entitled PIGErOTT v. PIG-
GOTT, the creditors of JOHN PIGGOTT, late of Twyford, in
the County of Berks, Gentleman, deceased, (who died on or about
the 14th day of November, 1832), are, on or before the 12th day
of August next, to come in and prove their debts before William
Brougham, Esq., one of the Masters of the said Court, at his cham-
bers, in Southampton-buildings, Chancery-lane, London, or in
default thereof, they will peremptorily be excluded the benefit of
the said decree.

BROOKS and COOPER, Plaintiff's Solicitors,
29, John-street, Bedford-row.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 24.
The SPEAKER entered the House at a quarter past five, and
here being only thirty-four Members present, the House ad-
ourned till to-morrow morning.

HOUSE OF LORDS, July 24.
Mr. Preston, from the East India House, brought up
certain papers.
- ESTABLISHED CHURCH.

Petitions in favour of the Established Church were pre-
sented by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Duke of Well-
ington, the Marquis of Salisbury, and the Bishop of Exeter.
COERCION BILL,
The Marquis of WESTMEATH, in rising to move that
'certain papers which had been moved for relative to the
Coercion Bill should lie on the table, stated, that al •
though he did not consider them of public importance,
yet, as tending to show the jesuitical, fraud and falselwed that
actuated some persons in Ireland, for the purpose of mislead-
ing the public, they were a very valuable addition to those pa-
pers which had already been laid on the table with respect to
the Coercion Bill.
The Etirl of STRADBROKE would take that opportu-
nity of adverting to a statement that had been made in
another place by 'the Honourable Member for Dublin with
respect to himself. He had been represented.- by that
Honourable Member as a harsh and unfeeling landlord.
Against that imputation he now rose, for the purpose
of defending himself.—( Hear, hear, hear.) It was true
that that Honourable Member had since recalled his
statements, but nevertheless he felt himself called upon
to explain his conduct to the House. He had ever
followed the steps of his revered father, Who, for
mere than half a century had conducted the business
of his own county with much honour to himself
and advantage to the whole country. As a landlord, he was
kin], generous, and just, and it therefore could not be supposed
that he, who had followed his footsteps, could be worthy of the
inputation that had been cast upon him. As a landlord, he
hid done all that lay in his power for his tenantry, and however
he might be blamed for the course be had pursued, he was
sire that he could not be so with justice.
Viscount CLIFDEN corroborated the whole of the state-
nent made by the Noble Lord ( Stradbroke.) He also corn-
pained of the system of subletting in Ireland, by which so
rrany beggars were let into possession of land who were not in
asy sense of the word tenants to the original landholder.
The Marquis of WE STMEATH attributed all the evils
that had befallen Ireland, and likewise the present system of
calumniation, to the influence of the ragamuffin part of the
Tress in that country, which was allowed to go forth to poison
tie minds of the people.
The Earl of LIMERICK bore testimony to the honourable
ciaracter of the late Lord Stradbroke. The present was a regular
system to run down the present possessors of land in that country,
in order to set up a mushroom interest in its place. The system
was not new, for it had been begun by the agitators, first
against the parsons of the Church, who were called by
the name of tyrant, and every thing else that was calculated to
raise a cry against them.
The Earl of WINCHEL SEA, seeing the Noble
Marquis at the head of the Government in hie place,
begged leave to give notice that to-morrow he would ask
him one or two questions, in order to give him an oppor-
tunity of explaining his views with regard to the foreign
policy of the country. In the present state of these affairs the
Parliament ought not to be allowed to separate without some
satisfaction on that head being given.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
Mr. TooKE, and others, brought up a Message from the
Commons, stating that they would not insist upon the amend-
ments made in the Old Bailey Jurisdiction Bill.
ESTABLISHED CHURCH.
The Duke of BUCCLE UCH presented petitions in favour
of the Established Church from Glastonbury, Barkley, and
several other places in Somersetshire, in favour of the Esta-
blished Church.
The Noble DUKE also presented a petition against the Poor
Laws' Amendment Bill.
IRISH TITHE BILL.
The Bishovf EXETER presented a petition from Devon-
port, in favour of the Established Church. The Reverend
Prelate stated that he understood the Bill relating to Tithes
in Ireland was likely to be brought into that House as the
luny last measure that would come before their Lordships.
He was quite sure nothing unfair was intended by this delay ;
but at the same time he was equally sure it would operate most
unfairly upon many of those Members of that House who felt
most anxiously upon the subject. The whole of the bench of
which he was an unworthy Member, felt it was a subject in
which the interests of true religion were more deeply involved
than perhaps any other that had ever been brought before
their Lordships.—( Hear, hear.) Feeling that, they would also
feel it to be their duty to stay there as far as possible with
whatever inconvenience to themselves, or their dioceses, even
if it should be protracted to the latest period of the session.
They had been sitting there almost without having had any-
thing to do, since the commencement of the session, and he
feared that they would have brought all the business of the
session to a close before that bill would be brought before them,
The LORD CHANCELLOR assured the Right Rev.
Prelate that he had done his Noble Friend injustice in sup-
posing that he wished to put off the Bill. His Noble Friend
h_ad no intention of inconveniencing either the Most
Reverend and Right Reverend Bench or any other part
of that House. The great cause of the delay had been
the drgent pressure of other business, particularly the Coercion
Bill, which would expire in a few days. He had no
doubt that the Irish Tithe Bill would be brought
to such a state as would enable its being passed in
a few days. He trusted that this information would satisfy
the Right Rev. Prelate.
The Bishop of EXETER thanked the Noble Lord for the
information which he had just given him.
Lord KENYON presented a petition from Armagh in sup-
port of the Established Church.
MISREPRESENTATION.
The LORD CHANCELLOR, in presenting a petition
from Preston in favour of the Poor Laws Amendment Bill,
said he could not help taking that opportunity of adverting to
a most marked and astounding misrepresentation which had gone
forth with respect to the address delivered by him on his moving
the second reading of that Bill. That such misrepresenta-
tions should be made (joined with invective and ribaldry,which he
), was not at all surprising where
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public were strong upon this subject of charity, and in support
of every hospital, and other charitable institution, and if it were
possible to mix lip those who patronised the Poor Laws Bill
with a hatred of charities, and a dislike to charitable institu-
tions, and a hard-hearted, and, he would say, a short-sighted
denialisease
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charity to those who. were suffering under distress,
disease, or so forth, it would be difficult to meet such a
charge. Now, it happened to be utterly and entirely
the reverse. It was said that he had avowed, that he, his
Lordship, had thrown off the mask, that he had avowed a dis-
like of all charities for the aged, the sick, and the infirm ; and
that he would be satisfied with nothing but a man's breaking
his leg; and that till a man met with such an accident,
he, his Lordship, would shut his heart against relieving
him—that a fever, or other such grievous calamity would not
open his compassion, till there was actually a case for the
surgeon. Thus the most unmerited abuse was passed upon
his hardness of heart. He had endeavoured to guard against
such misconstruction ; he had stated this that where there was
a provision for persons—for able-bodied persons—where there
was a known provision, whether in the form of alms or a pro-
portion of tithes, or monastic doles, that were bestowed at the.,
gates of convents in former •times) or" provisions 'in
hospitals or infirmaries, it had always tended to create
mischief, that those who knew that such provision existed,
would draw upon it.—( Cries of " Hear, hear.") He
then said that he would consider the principle of charities.
He said just in proportion as charities prevented idleness they
were valuable ; but he made no objection to hospitals for in-
curable diseases and fevers, nor even to dispensaries, for he
said that he would not stretch the rigour of the principle until
it cracked. He also said so in reference to hospitals for the
aged, alms-houses, and schools. Now it so happened that
he could not be mistaken in what he had said, because
he had got by heart the statement which he delivered to the
House, and which he would now read again from a letter which lie
published in the year 1818, addressed to Sir Samuel Romilly.
It was exactly the same as he delivered in the hearing of their
Lordships with the exception of two qualifications, which he
added in mitigation of the principle for which he contended.
The Noble Lord then read the extracts from the pamphlet
to which he alluded, as contained in page 31, which he de-
clared‘to be a duplicate of his speech. The extract to which
he alluded was as follows :
" I take it to be a principle which will admit of no contradiction,
that the existence of any permanent fund for the support of the
poor--the appropriation of any revenue, however raised, which
must peremptorily be expended in maintaining such as have no
other means of subsistence—has upon the whole a direct tendency
to increase their numbers. It produces this effect in two ways—by
discouraging industry, foresight, economy, and by encouraging im-
provident marriages. Nor is the former operation more certain
than the latter. It is equally clear that this increase will always
exceed the proportion which the revenues in question can maintain.
To the class of funds directly productive of paupers belong all re-
venues of almshouses, hospitals, and schools where children are
supported as well as educated; all yearly sums to be given away to
mendicants or poor families ; regular donations of religious houses
in Catholic countries ; the portion of the tithes in this country
which went to maintain the poor before the statutory provision was
made ; and, finally, and above all, that provision itself. But
charitable funds will prove harmless, and may be moreover bene-
ficial, exactly in proportion as their application is limited to com-
binations of circumstances out of the ordinary course of calculation,
and not likely to be taken into account by the labouring classes in
the estimate which they form of their future means of gaining a
livelihood. Thus they may safely be appropriated to the support of
persons disabled from working by accident or incurable malady, as
the blind and the maimed ; and we may even extend the rule to
hospitals generally for the cure of diseases; nor can orphan hos-
pitals be excepted upon the whole, for although certainly the dread