The Sun.
London, England, 1833-03-13 00:00:00

RUN FOR GOLD.

Mr. EVANS presented a petition from Sevarn, in Ire-
land, against the Irish Coercive Bill. The petition was
worded in strong language ; but from the state of excite-
ment into which Ireland was thrown by the attempt
to bring in such a measure as this, that was not to be
wondered at. The petitioners stated that they regarded
with horror the introduction of such a Bill as this—they
also stated their conviction, from the late speech made by
Mr. Stanley, that he was totally unfit for the office he
now held of Irish Secretary, and prayed the House to ad-
dress his Majesty for his removal. The Hon. Member now
begged leave to state that, though he had voted for the
Bill going into Committee, there were many parts of
that Bill so objectionable as to make it his bounden duty
strenuously to oppose it in the Committee.—(Hear.) The
suspension, for instance, of the habeas corpus—martial law
—fire and smoke law, which to him was very unintelligi-
ble and which, if carried into effect, would lead to many
other disturbances, he would decidedly oppose. He de-
precated the mode of opposition which he had been
informed had been resorted to out of doors—he alluded to
the run for gold on the banks in the southern part
of Ireland—he deprecated it, for he thought that
it would produce great injury to the people them-
selves, more so than to the hankers, because he
believed that the bankers were prepared for such a
run. He understood the traders had refused to traffic
with the agriculturists in the South of Ireland, fearing the
run on the banks. He thought this state of circumstances
would lead to great inconveniences, and that it was not a
proper mode of opposing this measure.
Mr. FITZGERALD cordially agreed with the peti-
tioners in their prayer. The petition, he could attest!
was signed most respectably. Not hitherto having had
an opportunity of giving his opinion on this measure, he
now begged leave to state, as one of the Irish Metro-
politan Members, that he entirely objected to this Bill.
Mr. FINN said there was one observation—that re-
specting the run now occurring for gold is Ireland—on
which he wished to say a word. When reform was
wanted in this country, he would ❑ot say whether it was
wisely done or not, placards were stuck up in the City,
saying—" If you want to stop the Duke, go for gold."
People in Ireland have taken the hint, and thought
that if they wanted to stop the Ministers they
must go for gold. This might he unwise,
and might be the effect of mere desperation ; but it
already showed the feelings which had been introduced in
the country by this Bill. Self-interest and advantage
were forgotten, and in their desperation men ruined them-
selves, in order to check the course of his Majesty's
Ministers. This was only a foretaste of the dread-
ful results of this measure, which his Alajesty's
Ministers could not, be was sure, have calculated
upon when they brought it in.—(Hear, hear.) Whilst
speaking upon this subject, he would remind the House of
a difference which existed between this country and Eng.
land. In England no notes are allowed to circulate un-
der five pounds in value, and the same law ought to be
established in Ireland ; for as long as you have one pound
notes in eitculation, your currency will be upon an un-
sou❑d footing,
An HON. MEMBER, name unknown, said that the effect
of a run for gold in Ireland would be most injurious to
the poorer classes, and it was to be regretted that some
man of influence did not rise in that House and conjure
the people of Ireland not to be deluded by the cry of run-
ning for gold. Such a cry could not produce any good,
but would be most of all injurious to the poor men who
had•put by money in the Savings Banks, who would draw
it out and spend a part of it before their confidence was
restored.
Mr. N. FITZSIMON said that he had received letters
from several merchants in Ireland, requesting him to
raise his voice in this House against the run for gold,
which, as stated by the Hon. Member for Kilkenny, he
considered a most desperate measure. It had been attri-
buted to the people of Ireland, but the origin of
the r❑n was to be found in certain insinuations
made in the Irish papers, which, come from what quarter
they might--(Hear)—he bad no hesitation in saying
were most injurious to the people of Ireland ; for it was
the poor people who depended upon their labour would
suffer most, though, undoubtedly, landlords would suffer
also.

Mr. FERGUS O'CONNOR felt satisfied that the
run for gold would be most injurious to the agricul-

Mr. COBBETT—I am very unhappy in being obliged
to differ from opinions so well expressed, but I, so far from
conjuring the people of Ireland not to run for gold, con
jure them to do so.—(Cries of "No, no.") There are
not enough Members in the House to drown my voice, and
therefore I hope to make myself heard. At any rate I
will stand here till I am heard. It was truly said
by a wise man that paper money is strength in tl e
beginning but weakness in the end. Gentlemen
may say what they please about this matter, but
we are destined to he brought under military
tyranny, both in England and Ireland, and our only
safety against the attempt which will be made for that
purpose by the Government, will be from the weakness it
inherits from this source. We all know that his Majesty's
Ministers would not have been in their places—that
the Reform Bill would not have passed—that probably
a convulsion would have taken place in the country, had
it not been for the power which the people possessed
of running to the Bank of England for gold. It is known
that forty-eight hours more could nothisve el ipsed luring
the crisis without a stoppage of the Bank. Therefore, it
was that way was given—therefore it was a relaxation
took place—therefore it was Lord Grey came back to
power—and therefore it was that the Reform Bill wa
passed. How then are the people of Ireland to be tol
that they cannot get anything by going for gold ?
They are told that it would bring upon them
distress and misery; but how can they be worse
off than they are now ? What can they have
worse than military officers to try them, instead of judges
and juries ? I believe that the measure of coercion, now
before us, for Ireland, is only the prelude to the intro-
duction of a similar measure into England. --(Hear,
hear, hear.) I believe that it is in contemplation
to establish in every village, and in every town of England
a system of military police. I am sorry that the Noble
Lord (Althorp) is not in his place, or I would distinctly
ask him the qucstiin, whether it be not in contemplafon
to establish a police in England similar to tie police of
Ireland--a gensdarmerie similar to that of France. I
do not believe that the Noble Lord would deny the fact.
I say that we have no protection against an attempt of
this kind, except in the weakness experienced by the Go-
vernment from the existence of paper money. Paper mo-
ney is a great curse--is a scourge in itself, but it comes
at last to cure the evil it has created. I say aga'n, that
it is our only protection against a military Government
and the establishment of military tribunals ; and I repea/
deliberately, that if the Bill before us pass, his Majesty's
Ministers will bring forward a measure to establish in
this country a police like that in Ireland, and other mea-
sures, to inflict upon us all that is proposed to be in
flitted upon Ireland by this Bill.—(Hear.) I do no/
say this without having thought upon it, and
therefore I earnestly conjure the people to run for
gold. Let them remember that they cannot have anythirg
worse than this Bill, that they cannot be in a worse situa-
tion than Mni ters s to place Ilium in. My words to
the people are, then, "run for geld, produce confusion,
anything —(Loutl cries of " Order" and " Chair.")
The SPEAKER—Motives are not allowed, in this
House, to be ascribed to any Hon. Member ; and had any
Hon. Member put that interpretation upon the speech 4 f
the Hon. Member for Oldham, which it now appears he
wishes this House and the country to put upon it, i
would have been most disorderly. When, therefore,
the Hon. Member himself makes running for gold
synonymous with producing confusion, it is clear
that he is most disorderly, and had, what he has now
uttered, been uttered by him or any other individual,
not being a Member of this House, it would have brought
him within the reach of the law.—(Loud cheers.)
Mr. COBBETT—I will take care, Sir, not to offend agair.
What I meant to say was, that in no state of things in
which the Irish people could be placed could they be
worse than the Bill would place them. That was all I
meant to say. Seeing the Right Hon. Secretary for• the
Home Department in his place, he begged to ask him
whether he had not heard of certain societies or conspira-
cies on foot relative to the coin of the realm.

Mr. D. ROCHE was extremely sorry to hear the Hon.
Member for Oldham recommending the people of Irelan
to run to the Banks for gold. For his own part, he
would take upon himself to declare that no two Banks
could be placed upon a better footing, than those carrying
on the money affairs of Ireland. He trusted the Hon.
Member would not place Ireland in a state of confusion by
such recommendations. If runs did take place, the con-
sequence would be the withdrawal of credit by the Banks.
Mr. GRATTAN deprecated the introduction of such
topics during the discussion of Irish petitions.
Mr. LAMB would leave that part of the Hon. Mem-
ber's speech to answer it.elf, for be had stated if the people
ran for gold they *Yonld increase their suffering, although
they could scarcely be greater than they were at present.
—(Cheers.) With respect to that part of the Hon
Members speech, in which he had stated that it was the
intention of Government to introduce a military police and
gensdarnies all over the country, he fel extremely sorry
that his Noble Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
was not in the House, as a denial by him of that state-
ment would be much better and more effectual than
coming from !him :(Mr. Lamb.) He could assure the
house that further than the present system of police no
measures were contemplated by the Government.—
(Cheers.) With regard to the Currency Club, to which
the Hon. Member alluded, he would leave him to the en-
joyment of his opinions.
Mr. O'CONNOR presented several petitions from pa.
riches in Cork, ogainst the Irish Coercive:Bill.
Lord MANDEVILLE presented a petition from Tod-
morton, in Lancashire, against the Irish Coercion Bill.
The Noble Lord could not agree with the prayer of the
petition.
Lord MORPETH felt called upon to inform the
House, that he had :received two letters on the
subject of the petition—one from a gentleman
who was anxious that he should state that the petition was
not signed by a tithe of the respectable inhabitants of
Todmorton, that it was in tact not their petition, and that
the signatures attached to it had been procured by persons
hired for the purpose. The people of Todmorton con-
curred with Ministers in the introduction of th:•
prasent Bill, but regretted the necessity for it.
Mr. FIELDEN condemned the idea of listening to a
letter of this description. There could be no doubt that
the letter was respectably signed, but was the House to
be insulted by a letter from some private individual,
saying there was nut a respectable person's signature to the
petition ?
Lord MORPETH said that was not the statement—
the statement was that the petition was not signed by a
tithe of the respectable individuals of the place from which
the petition came.
Mr. FIELDEN would venture to assert that what was
contained in that letter was not true. He would venture
to say the petition was signed by at least 4-sths of the
respectability of that place. As it came from his
native place, he would, however, take an opportunity
of looking at the petition to see whether it really was
signed by the respectable people or not. He would feel
obliged if the Noble Lord opposite would let him know
who had bail the assurance to send him that letter.
Major BEAUCLERK regretted that these attempts to
throw reflections on petitions should continue to be re-
peated from day to day.—(Hear, hear.) He thought it
was very unfair for Gentlemen to indulge in making those
attacks. Every petition, and every set of petitions, ought
to be fairly heard, and if there was anything in what they
stated or asked meriting an attack, then let them be re-
flected on.--(Cheers.)
Mr. SHEIL thought the House was acting very un-
fairly towards the Noble Lord, because the Right Hon.
Secretary for Ireland legislated in private communica•
tions, and why should not the Noble Lord be allowed to
do the same thing?—(Near, hear, and much laughter.)
Lord MORPETH begged only to say that he had
felt it his duty to make known to the House the
communication that had been made to him. The writer
of the letter did not seem to wish that his name should
be made known to the public, but he (Lord Morpetb)
had no objection to put the letter into the hands of the
Hon. Member for Oldham.

Mr. BRIGSTOCK presented a petition from a parish
in Somersetshire in favour of the Bill. He cordially sup-
ported the petition, because he thought the people of Ire-

THE RECORD COMMISSION.-A series of
inquiries have been prepared by order of this commission,
and addressed to the town clerks and other corporate of-
ficers throughout the kingdom. Their object is simply to
ascertain what documents are in existence in the possession
of those, officers relating to the early history of England,
in order that a complete collection of authentic materials
may be formed for the purpose of illustrating the domestic
annals of the empire. The labours of individuals have
already done much towards the particular histories of va-
rious towns, but many of the works in which they have
been published are of such exclusively local character that
the general mass of knowledge has been but little increased
by them. By the well directed exertions of the members
of this commission, seconded, as there can be little doubt
they will be, by all persons who are interested in the in-
quiries now on foot, it is most probable that many curious
and valuable particulars will be elicited. The various re-
turns made by the persons to whom the questions are sent
will be printed, and the public will thus have the means
of appreciating the skill and diligence of those officers in
aiding the object of the consmissioners, and in contributing
to an important and interesting national undertaking. It
need hardly be added, that these inquiries have no politi-
cal tendency, nor, indeed, any other design than that
which is expressed upon the face of them.

The carnival in Spain has been extremely
brilliant this year, and, what had not been seen fbr many
years, persons in masks were allowed to promenade the
streets and public places. The Infant Don FRANCISCO
and his consort were present at several fancy balls.—
French Paper.

The late high winds and boisterous weather
have been followed, curiously enough, by an advance in
the price of Devonshire cider. It seems that in Devon-
shire vast numbers of apple-trees were blown down by the
storm ; the largest trees suffering the most, in conse-
quence of their hold in the ground having been loosened
by the long prevalence of rain. The supply of cider next
season is, therefore, expected to fall short of the demand.
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the 26th of February. About seven o'clock he was up
stairs with his mother, when he a-ked permission to go
down awl wait for his sister, who was expected home.
Shortly after a scuffle was heard at the door, of which no
notice was then taken, and the boy was not seen after
that by hie friends. A reward of 51. was offered for his
recovery, and a man living in the neighbourhood having
been heard to say that he knew the boy was alive, was
pressed by the parents to assist in recovering him. He
pretended to search after him, but no trace of the boy
could be discovered ; and it was suspected, from an ob-
servation be made respecting Capt. BZAUCLERK, who was
committed for an infamous offence, and who cut his
throat in prison, that he was concerned in carrying the
boy off. On the boy's body being found, this man and
two others were taken into custody. They were yester-
lay examined at Hatton-garden, but the particulars of the
examination did not transpire. Some dreadful disclosures
are expected at the Inquest.

ANCIENT SHIP AT MOUNT'S BAY.—The
discovery of the hull of a vessel imbedded in the beach
near Newlyn, Mount's Bay, has excited much curiosity,
ind it appears by a letter from Mr. J. A. BOAST, of Pen:
since, that she was about 50 tons, flat-bottomed, clincher-
built, of oak, 30 feet long. Her ribs were not more than
four inches apart, and sufficiently strong for a vessel doub!e
her size. There were marks of nails, but not a bit of iron
was found, from which it would seem that wood, when
shut up from the air, is the most durable. The vessel ap-
pears to have been in ballast when lost ; two ancient coins
were found on board, one of which was in a perfect state
of of preservation, and bore the inscript'on ‘‘Ave M.arM, by
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was without date ; but Mr. Boise says, that from its re-
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