The Sun.
London, England, 1851-03-19 00:00:00

MINES.

Paid. Nominal Prices. Business don,
to-day.
---
Anglo-Mexican(ls. 51. p.) 100 ..
Asturian .
Australian • • ...• ••• • • . 4 3% 2%
Barossa Range .. • • .... 113
Blaenarrou Iron and Coal 50 .•
Bolanos Scrip ........ • • • •
British Iron .. .•.. • ..... 13 5 .. —• •
Brazilian Imp. (is. 51. p.) 24% —• •
De. Cocaes and Culaba 30 32% —32
Do. St. John del Rey • • 15 14% 13% 14%
Cobre Copper • •
Coplapo .•••• • • ..... 14 5% 7
General.. •
Real Del Monte, Unreg. 14 %
Do. Black Debentures. ••
Do. Red Debentures • • —• •
Santiago de Cuba ...... 10 7% —6%
Tin Croft .. • . • . • • •••••• 7 10% 11
United Mexican— • .....128 28% 6% 514 5
jOINT STOCK BANKS.
Australasia
British North America.. 50 42% 42
Colonial .....• ........ 25 97 —l2
Commercial of London.. 20 25 25%
London Joint Stock .... 10 18% 17%
London and Westminster 20 27% 27%
National Provincial Eng. 85
National of Ireland 22% 17% 111
Provincial of Ireland.. • • 25 42 43%
Do. New ..•- •• •..... 10 15% 15
Union of Australia .. • . 25 33% 33%
Do. New ............ 3 —3%
Union of London • • 10 12% 133(
Union of Madrid • 40
3KISCEMLANZOITS.
Canada 82% 42% —4B
Gen. Steam Navigation . 14 26% 27%
Peniu. lk Oriental Steam. 50 68% 72%
Royal Mail Steam .. •• .. 60 73 —69
Peninsular and Oriental Stearn, 5 paid, has been done at 12 11% 1

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42% 48
26% 27%
G 8 —72%
,73 —69
paid, has been done at 12 11% 12.
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MONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS.

CITY, TWO O'CLOCK.
The sales of Cotton at Liverpool yesterday were estimated
at 7,000 bales, of which 2,000 American were taken on
speculation. The market closed firm at an advance of %d.
per lb. on American under 74d. per lb. Other kinds are
without alteration in price.—ln Railway Shares a good busi-
ness was done at lower prices. The market closed very
weakly.
We noticed a few days since the general petition to Par-
liament of the merchants of the City, and may now follow
up our allusion by a reference to a like memorial from the
St. Katharine Dock Company. It is impossible to enter at
length into the detail of annoyances occasioned to, and diffi-
culties endured by, the company, through the mistaken zeal
of the Customs' solicitor. The summing up of the case is in
the following terms :
" That the violent and offensive attack therefore which
was, as stated at the outset of 'this petition, made upon the
dock establishment by a large-bedy of Custom-house officers
on that day was as unprovoked as it was unexpected; and
your petitioners will venture to add was as unjustifiable as it
was unprovoked and unexpected. There is, indeed, neither
parallel nor excuse for it. In the cases of the proceedings
by the Excise, a branch of the revenue inevitably requiring
sudden visitations to discover illicit processes in the moment
of their actual operation, it might be necessary for large
bodies of officers suddenly to surround and enter the pre•
miser, the proprietors and managers being in all such cases
principals in the offence. While in the case of the docks it
was quite impossible, as any body conversant with the prac-
tise and regulations of those establishments ought to have
known, that any fraudulent processes could be carried on on
such a scale as to require a legion of revenue officers to come
upon them by surprise as the only chance of detecting them,
there being, moreover, no motive for fraudulent practices du
great extent, unless the directors and proprietors were as-
sumed to have a beneficial interest in the result—an assump-
tion which was made by the Crown prosecution against the
London Docks, but recoiled on the prosecutors. If, however,
in the instance of the loge force of Custom-house officers
suddenly entering the St. Katharine Dock premises, great
quantities of goods legally liable to seizure, as involving
frauds on the revenue to a considerable extent, had been dis-
covered, there might have been a prima facie excuse for so
extraordinary an exhibition ; but the actual result was the
discovery and seizure of a most insignificant quantity of
sugar scrapings and of sweepings of other goods.
"It was apparently from disappointment at a result so
ridiculously small, compared with the vast means employed,
that led to the further examinations, in the course of which
the officers of the Customs seemed determined to make up
for the insignificance of the first seizure, by seizing the very
great quantities in respect of which the numerous informa-
tions before referred to are pending ; for which seizures, how-
ever, your petitioners firmly believe there are no justifiable
grounds; but your petitioners humbly submit that if there
were sufficient ostensible grounds for those seizures, and for
the imputations upon the company's officers and servants,
nothing can justify the mode of proceeding in respect of
them, which has been adopted by the Board of Customs.
Every expedient, of the most procrastinated and expensive
litigation, with the aid of the great powers possessed by the
Customs' authorities, has been resorted to, and your petition-
ers cannot hesitate to characterize these proceedings against
them as involving the charge of a fiagrant abuse on the part
of the Board of Customs of the great powers and privileges
with which it is invested.
"Your petitioners therefore pray Pat your Hon.
House will be pleased to appoint a Committee
to inquire into the constitution and manage-
ment of the Board of Customs, with a view to
remedy the abuse of its powers, of which your
petitioners have such great cause of complaint."
At a meeting of the Grocers and Tea Dealers' Benevolent
Protection Society the annual report was submitted. This states
that the contributions of the past year exceeded those of
any previous year, the annual subscriptions being 8901. 78.;
donations, 5531. 2s. ; and dividends on stock, 4191. ss.—Total,
1,862/. 14s. The sum distributed in pensions was 8541. to 41
pensioners. many of whom were formerly subscribers to the
society. The total amount .distributed in pensions was
6.43/. 9s. The committee had added 6001. to the capital
stock( of the society, which now amounted to 13,2001. Three-
and-a-Quarter per Cents. The report further stated that Sir
John Davis, Esq., had consented to preside at the annual
dinner on the sth of May. Certain new rules were agreed
to, having for their object the immediate relief of widows sued
orphans of deceased pensioners and the carrying forward the
votes of unsuccessful candidates. The report was unani-
mously adopted.
In the Amsterdam market, on the 17th inst., Dutch Stock
had generally a more favourable tendency, and business was
animated. The Two-and-a-Half per Cents. were at 57.
Spanish Five per Cents. were in much request.
The English Funds have been steady, but with very little
doing. Consols have been quoted 96% % for Transfer and,
for the Account 96% %. Bank Stock is shut. Exchequer-
bills have realised 535. to 565. premium.
There has been an increased demand for Spanish Bonds,
owing to the decided advance at Madrid. The Passive have
been run up to 5%, and the Five per Cents. have touched
21 to 4. The energy of M. Gonzales Bravo, who has dis-
missed from the Council the gentleman who lately refused to
vote in the Committee appointed to settle the debt, has given
ground for hope that the creditors will now certainly have
their claims attended to. Venezuela Bonds have been 32%
to 33, and Mexican have fallen to 33 to U. Grenada De-
ferred have been at 41A, and Equador at 3A. Brazilian Old
Stock has realized 93, and Chilian Six per Cents. have
been at 105% to 106. Peruvian Four-and-a-Half per Cents.
have been firm at Si. Russian Four-and-a-Half per Cents.
have been quoted 97% to Ys, and Dutch Info- and-a-Half
per Cents. 58%.
The Railway Market still droops, and prices are all lower.
The decline in Great Western is about 21. cheaper. North
Western has dropped I'., Midland 1/. to 1/. 58., Norfolk 2
Eastern Counties are much the same, or say IA worse. Aber-
deen are 21. to 21. 103 lower. Caledonian are down 11. to
1/. , Great Northern bs. to 7s. 6d., South-Western I t.,
North Stafford 2a. 6d. to 55., and East Lancashire ss. Am-
bergate are fie', and South Wafts tolerably steady. French
shares are all in favour of buyers, but there is still a disposi-
tion to de business in them, and many parties are taking
them for investment.

Consols ••• ••
Ditto Account fops,

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF COMMONS. March 18.

TITHE RENT-CHARGES IN IRELAND

Mr. SADLIER (in continuation from our Fourth
Edition of last night) proceeded to say—He
trusted that the time was not very far distant
when the tithe rent•charge in Ireland would
be made redeemable by legislative enactment,
being convinced that it would be productive of
the beat effects. It would relieve many scruples in
the Encumbered Estatvs Courts, especially among
Quakers, English as well:as Irish. It was argued that if his
(Mr. Sadleir's) proposition was adopted some ministers of
the Established Church in Ireland would be left without any
income. But the answer to that objection was, that the
revenues of that Church were not equally divided among the
working c'ergy. Before the poor-law, however, the working
clergy, on 150/. a year, had, in many cases, to keep up large
mansions, the income of the parish going to swell the funds
of some choral society in Dublin. At all events, if the in-
come of the working clergy was insufficient, a competence
ought to be secured to them. The ecclesiastical anomalies
that prevailed in Ireland were a disgrace to the legislation
of the United Kingdom; but of all countries under the sun,
Ireland was, perhaps, the only one where an acknowledged
•
evd, or wrong, as regarded tithe rent-charge, should be
suffered—recovering as it was from a succession of famines,
and the landlords being, for the most part, Protestants.
He therefore conceived that he was justified in calling on the
House to adopt the resolution he should propose. The Hon.
Gentleman then moved the resolution.

Sir G. GREY said the question was one of great
com-
plexity, involving the construction of many Acts of Parlia-
ment, and therefore the House could not fairly pledge itself
to any course without first having before it the substance of
any Bill that might be brought forward with a view to
amend the existing law. The Hon. Gentleman had im-
ported in my extraneous topics into his argument, which
had no reference to the term of his resolutions, and this was
an additional reason why the House should refuse to pledge
itself to any particular course without previously having the
details of any proposed Bill before it. He was not prepared
to say that after an examination of the various Acts bearing
on the subject, if it should appear there were no insuperable
objections to the assimilation of the tithe-rent charge sys-
tem in England and Ireland, there would be any disposition
to pass over the subject on the part of Government. If the
Hon. Gentleman would move for leave to bring in a Bill on
the subject, he would say that the subject should have full
and fair attention. But again he repeated it would be in-
convenieat to pledge the House to any particular course;
such as would be the case if it assented to the motion just
submitted.

Mr. HAMILTON considered, if the proposition were
carried, it world not materially affect the present occupiers
of land in Ireland. The landowners would be very un-
. .

, Ming to gain any right that would give them an undue
advantage. The Honourable Member entered into details
to show that the tithe composition settlement which took
place in England and Ireland was not similar; for, in the
first instance, the tithe-owner got the full amount of his
tithe, deducting the expenses of collection; whereas the
Irish tithe-owner had to submit to a reduction of 25 per
cent., which went into the pockets of the landowner. It
would be unjust, he considered, to interfere with the set-
tlement which had been arrived at, by any new legislation,
without taking the different circumstances connected
with the composition in Ireland and England into con-
sideration. He did not deny that improvement could be
effected in the existing system, but he thought that a sep-
tennial ought to be substituted for an annual adjustment of
tithe-rent. He hoped his Hon. Friend would withdraw his
renlation.

Mr. FRENCH would do nothing to promote the objects
of his Honourable Friend, and he should be sorry to sup-
port any measure or motion that would have the effect of
perpetuating the mischiefs of the Encumbered Estates
Act. He hoped his Hon. Friend would turn the question
over in his mind, with the view of founding a Bill on his
experience, because he believed there was no indisposition on
the part of Government or the House to legislate on the
question.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD considered the existing difficulties in

taking the averages in order to determine the amount of
charge were so great, as practically to render the previous
legislation on the subject abortive. He recommended his
Hon. Friend to accept the proposition made by his Right
Hon. Friend.

Mr. H. GRATTAN advocated a septennial in preference
to an annual average, as more equitable to all parties. His
Hon. Friend had objected to the operation of the Encumbered
Estates Bill. He believed that the general opinion was, that
the Encumbered Estates Bill had operated as a robbery.—
(Oh!) He had read in the papers only the other day, that
an estate having a rental of 3801. a year could only gain a
bidding of 1,5.00/.
Mr. SADLEIR would not occupy any further time this ses-
sion in discussing the question. He had given notice at an
early period of the session to move for leave to bring in a Bill
on the subject, but he had been remonstrated with by many
Hon. Members for attempting to deal with a subject so large
that Government only ought to undertake it, and this
had induced him to give up his intention and to submit
his motion and his reasons in their present form. But since
he had received an intimation from Government that a Bill
if introduced by him would not meet with Government
opposition, and as he hoped that Government was disposed
to recognise the principle for which he contended, although
the task of introducing a measure of so much importance
was usually distasteful and objectionable to a private Member,
he would, on the encouragement held out, give his attention
to the vestion, with the view of introducing a measure on
the subject at an early period. With that understanding he
would withdraw his motion.
Sir H. W. BARRON hoped Government would take up
the matter, as it was not, or ought not to be, a party
question, and Government were, therefore, bound to effect
practical good whenever they had an opportunity. The
question was not one of such immense difficulty as that
it could not be grappled with, even by the present Go-
vernment.