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their own projects, they would convulse the kingdoM."
The plain English of this passage would seem to
be, that political scoundrels can alone be safe Mi-
nisters under a Reform Government. This doctrine
may have been familiar to our contemporary ; but we
would fain hope that the people of England, including,
even the three-fourths of them who take their poll-,
tical principles from the Times, must be somewhat
startled by so barefaced an attempt to insult their un-
derstanding. On the 'Whig Ministers being dismissed
people naturally supposed that when men were chosen
to succeed them, who had opposed the Reform Bill
and every liberal measure which that Bill rendered ne-
cessary, a policy in accordance with the principles
maintained in opposition by the new Ministry might
be expected. No, said the Times—they cannot, if
they would, be other than Reformers ; the Reform
Bill has settled that matter. Of what consequence is
it whether we obtain good measures from the Duke of
Wellington's or Lord Melbourne's Administration,
since good measures we must have ? To say we will
only take certain measures from certain men, is to
speak like children. Our motto should be " Mea
sores, not men." But now the whole is made to
hinge on the circumstance of the new men having no
attachment to one set of principles more than another.
If they really mean what they say—if they have any
seruple as to writing themselves knaves—if they think
it is an insult to the people of England to vote for four
years against certain measures, and the moment they
enter on office to propose the same measures—then
they are dangerous men—they would convulse the
kingdom, which, notwithstanding the Reform Bill,
can only be saved by means of dishonest Statesmen.
It would seem that the Times supposed the Tories
I could either themselves supply a greeter number of
knaves, or might succeed in borrowing a few from
their opponents ; for it is greatly chagrined at the
number of honest Tories in the Cabinet. Had they
been all like the Duke of Wellington, things would
have gone right. "In the Cabinet (says our wea-
thercock contemporary), are some able and respected
Ministers. All political parties are of chequered ma-
terials. The Duke of Wellington, Sir R. Peel, Lord
Aberdeen, and the Lord Chancellor, will, we take
for granted, be the principal movers of the body." The
individual here placed in the head and front of the
saviours of the country, may be so reckless with re-
gard to principles as to pass muster at Printing-house-
square ; but our contemporary ought not to forget,
that it is not enough to have no attachment to any set
of principles, as some discernment is necessary to knosw
what to abandon, and what to adopt in ttseivom of
what is abandoned. Now, so late - s
tile latter end of
June last, the Times told Ts that the Duke of Wel-
lington was profor....,aiy ignorant of public opinion,
awl that
" vas honestly and profoundly in the
dark as, to almost every than; that men thought and
Lett throughout the larger portion of eduCated society."
After all it appears we have only a blind leader in the
Duke. Of the other three, in whom the hopes f the
nation are placed by our contemporary, want of prin-
ciple would not secure us from danger from the same
source, if the characters given of them in Printing-
house-square were to guide us. Was ever a people
so insulted as the English people are by this most hn-
pudent renegade ?—Morning Chronicle.
Rumour states Sir Robert Peel and the Marquis of
Chandos to have parted upon anything_ but cordial
terms. For this abrupt and untoward dissolution of
their intended union, as members of the same Cabinet,
conjecture assigns various causes—the one the new
Premier's reluctance to pledge himself to a repeal of
the malt tax ; the other, a still more determined oppo-
sition to any review of the currency question, to the
present situation of which Lord Chandos, in common
with a great multitude of other well-informed persons,
attributes the present deplorable state of the agricultu-
ral classes. The Noble Marquis, it is added, instead
of dining with the Premier on Saturday, left town for
Buckinghamshire, with the view, it is said, of laying
befOre a meeting of his constituents at Aylesbury a
statement of his share in the negotiations which pre-
ceded the formation of the new Government, accom-
panied by his reasons for declining office. It is not
impossible but that this expose may reach us before
this goes to Press. It is at the present moment of
peculiar importance, and is therefore looked for
with much anxiety. With a view to the gene-
ral election, which there seems little doubt is
on the eve of taking place, it is of the highest impor-
tancs to the new Government that its intentions on the
agricultural question should be clearly and distinctly
avowed and understood. 'We have before stated, and
we believe with accuracy, that the Duke of Welling-
ton's stronghold is among the agricultural classes ; and
it will therefore be an unfortunate thing for the new-
Government, if any thing has passed between Sir
Robert Peel and Lord Chandos, which is calculated
to mar or to diminish that impression. Certain we
are that the question of raising the agricultural classes,
including labourer, tenant and landlord, from their
present state of depression, is one of infinitely more
moment than many of those theoretical pledges, such
as ballot and triennial parliaments, which a part of the
Press is bestowing such useless pains upon ; and,
therefore, difficult as it may be for Sir Robert Peel,
scarcely warm in his seat, to give all the pledges that
may be required of him, it is most important to the
stability of his Government that, upon this question at
least, there should, previous to the general election, be
" no mistake."—Morning Herald.
The mask is thrown aside—the Government is
formed—it is not a coalition—not Whig and Tory--
not the moderate men of all parties—but the very
dregs of Tory selfishness—the names of the Ministers
are sufficient to show what the people are to expect--
abuses in Church—Corporation plunder—the Pension
List, with all its extravagance—the stoppage, if not
extinction, of all measures intended to relieve the
people of their burdens—of their complaints—of the
oppressions under which they have too long and too
patiently suffered. Verily the tender mercies of the
Tories are cruel. Beware, Electors— be on your
guard ;—the time for decision—energy—action—is
come ;—examine every candidate—see his pretensions
—look to his character--weigh his actions, and be
fully assured he is pledged by honour—consistency—
love of his country--to act as becomes the represen-
tative of a free people, before you elect him. On
your decision hang, not the destinies of the Tories
only, but that of this nation and of all Europe. If
you are united among yourselves, forgetting minor
points, and insisting only on the one grand distinction.
Reform or no Reform, you must triumph. A:2..11 what
a triumph l—greater than all the victor.s;ss..o(l,7apoieon
or `Wellington—more useful--..nore enduring—more
0
to be celebrated than inimortal victories Marathon
or Therinopylw w:s'Enessed.—Morning Advertiser.
If we anted any evidence of the discomfiture and
de'svair to which the Whig party are driven, we should
find an abundance of such proofs in the scurrility of
personal abuse to which 'they resort, and on which
they seem to place their last and faltering reliance.
That this is not merely an occasional ebullition of mor-
tified ambition, but the deliberate system of malignant
minds, may readily be gathered from the series of
vulgar libels which stain their paper and disgust their
readers. Yesterday we had a furious article in the
Globe, full of all manner of falsehood and vitupera-
tion, the object of which.was to denounce the appoint-
ment of Lord Chandos to a seat in the Cabinet. By-
the-by, this was probably written in the author's igno-
rance that L6rd Chandos was not a Cabinet Minister.
Otherwise we should probably have heard only of the
unbending integrity and independence of theNobleMar-
quis, to which none can pay readier homage than our-
selves, and of the indecency of excluding his Lord-
ship from a Conservative Cabinet. In the same paper
Lord Stormont is coarsely denominated "a goose."
Is it by such ribaldry as this that the Globe can hope
to advance the waning cause of its patrons, or to de-
monstrate any thing but the cowardly virulence of its
own contributors ? Are these abusive epithets applied
by an educated gentleman or by some low-born vaga-
bond, who would strive to vaunt the puddle in his own
veins by sneering at the present Prime Minister as " the
son of a cotton-spinner ?"—Morning Post.
A correspondent who signs himself " SPECTATOR"
makes some reinarks upon the supposed proximity of
a dissolution of Parliament, which seem not unworthy
of notice. He is not, we believe, solitary in the doubts
he expresses as to the expediency, with a view to the
interests of the Conservatives themselves, of calling

another House of Commons, before the existing one
shall have had an opportunity of declaring its senti-
ments with regard to the change of Ministers. Some
reason must of course be assigned for dissolving
this Parliament, which has still five years of its
natural life unexpired,—some fault must be im-
puted to its composition, or. spirit, or proceeding,
since the period of its election,---some grave mis--
conduct, such as the country will acknowledge to
he. a sufficient cause for remanding the members to
their constituents, otherwise such a wanton disturb-
ance of the public tranquillity will be charged as a
crime upon his Majesty's advisers. Now, every
body knows that in the present House of Commons
are to be found many individuals professing both
extremes of political opinion—the ultra-Radical and
the ultra-Tory. But he is a bold man who will deny
that the great majority, at least two-thirds of the
House, have proved themselves to be rational and
constitutional Reformers, not wishing to go in the
path of change one inch beyond what may
.be strictly
necessary for preserving that which ought to be left
unaltered. It is no unfair assumption then of our
correspondent, that an abrupt dissolution. of a Par-
liament so composed would by most people be imputed
to a disapproval of its prevailing character, that is, of
its reforming spirit, on the part of his Majesty's Go-
vernment, and, consequently, to the repugnance of Sir
R. Peel and his colleagues against such a system of
reform policy as such a House of Commons would
teriuirc at their hands. It certainly behoves the Ad-
ministration, therefore, to look well before them in the
adoption of the measure alluded to. If the nation
finds that the present House of Commons -has been
cashiered for its devotion to the cause of reform, every
man will then naturally ask his neighbour, can this be a
Reforming Ministry, which commences its govern-
ment by so unequivocal a demonstration of hostility to
the progress of amendment ? It will be surmised, of
course, that the sort of House of Commons demanded
for the purposes of a Government which dreads the
existing House must be of an anti-reform colour--a
belief which, if it should spread throughout the coun-
try, would at once be fatal to any Cabinet which gave
rise to it, and against which it was directed. All this
course of observation, however, applies to the single
case of an immediate dissolution of the existing 13-
liament by Ministers, because of th,
to meet it at all. It wog'"

_a- Unwillingness
oe different if Sir Robert
come forward with distinct as-
to the country or his determination to
-arry out the ieform system in Church and State,
Mere to meet with a perverse, wanton, and factious
opposition, not aimed at principles or measures, but at
persons, and having for its exclusive end the return
of office of a certain set of Ministers on the hoped-
for expulsion of those who form the actual Ad-
ministration. In that case the present Government
might appeal securely from the representative to the
elective body, and throw itself without fear upon the
''(rood sense and integrity of Englishmen. We, at
least, should apprehend nothing from an experiment
so, forced upon the Crown. In answer to those who
Object to particular individuals, we may observe that
we, tco, have our personal feelings, but we adhere
to our motto of measures, not seen; though, even in
the personal question, we might safely say, that in a
Cabinet of which Sir R. Peel, the Duke of Wel-
lington, and Lord Lyndhund are the leaders, the
subordinate members arc not likely to exercise any
independent power. Indeed, the New Ministry will
have this advantage over the late—it will not be a
mere Cabinet of Departments, in which a Minister
could bring forward an important measure, of which
his colleagues and the Premier acquired their first
knowledge when it was propounded in Parliament.—
Tim es.

Pod, after ha,,

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SPANISH BONDS.

A meeting of the holders of Spanish Cortes Bonds took
place en Monday at. the City of London Tavern, Mr.
Weeding in the Chair.
The CHAIRMAN laid before the meeting a report of the
proceedings which bad taken place since the general meet-
-I!]K on the 21st of August last which was read. It de-
tailed the communications that had taken place with the
Spanish Government, in consequence of the resolution
agreed to at that .meeting, and proceeded to state that on
the 17th of October, in consequence of information being
received that the Chamber of Procuradoi es, after having
recognized the validity of the original loan, had determined
to give two-thirds of the debt an active form, and to one-
third a passive form, but had refused to make any-arrange-
ment with respect to the long arrear of interest, the Chair-
man of the Committee wrote to Lord Palmerston, point-
ing out the great injustice of the course which the Spanish
Legislature proposed to pursue, and calling upon his Lord-
ship to remonstrate with the Government of Spain, and to
demand that the British creditor, in the acknowledgment
and arrangement of the old Cortes debts, should at least
be treated with the same justice as the creditors of other
countries. A change taking place in the British Adminis-
tration in the course of the last month, the Chairman ad-
dressed a letter to the Duke of Wellington, soliciting his
Grace to apply to the Spanish Government upon the subject
of the claims of the British bondholders, in consequence of
which his Grace despatched a messenger with instructions
to the British minister at Madrid upon the subject. In
conclusion the report expressed the thanks of the Com-
mittee of Spanish Cortes bondholders to. the Committee of
the Stock Exchange, for the just and honourable manner in
which they had acted throughout, and especially in re-
ference to the new loan lately contracted for. The Chair-
man then observed that the Committee did not intend to
offer any decided recommendation upon the subject.
Thinking that the time was come when the bondholders
would be enabled to see their way to the end, the Com-
mittee deemed it more respectful to decline coming forward
with any recommendation of their own, and to leave it to a
general meeting to frame such resolutions as, upon calm
end due consideration, it should think most proper,—(Hear,.
bear.) lie (the Chairman) should, therefore, sit
clown con-
tent with having placed before the meeting all the facts
that. had come to the knowledge of the Committee. He
only trusted that the meeting would enter into the discus-
sion of the subject with the calmness and temper which its
importance demanded.—(Cheers.)
Mr. COHEN, after some explanations as to the situation
in which he was placed, said that the tililtfaCtots for the
new loan would doubtless use all their influence with the
Spanish Minister to. improve the terms of the deferred
stock arising from the arrears of dividends, and that the
terms. granted by the Government are even better than
those proposed to be taken by the committee about six
months ago. If, therefore, the success of a further re-
monstrance was doubtfiil, whilit the evil created by the
delay was positiro, it appeared to him the most expedient
course to avoid all further delay by acceding to the terms
already
o— •
61}1!:ca., accompanying such an acceptance with an
tir,,oot request to the Spanish Government to reconsider.
that portion of the law respecting the arrears of dividends,
and expressinc, the fullest reliance that a request so just
and reasonable will not be refused by a Government
making exertions to remedy the sufferings which its former
breach of faith had inflicted. Mr. Cohen then moved a
resolution to the effect that for the purpose of putting a
termination to the doubts of the Cortes bondholders, any
further delay in reference to the arrears of debt clue to
them would be highly injurious to them, that it was there-
fore expedient to accept the terms proposed by the Spanish
Government in the law lately passed on the subject, but
that the meeting express a hope that a modification would
take place in the law in respect to the arrears of interest.
Mr. MORGAN seconded the resolution.

Mr. RICHARD THonNToN, after making several obser-
vations on the transactions in question, and the hardship
suffered by the Spanish bondholders, came to the conclu-
sion that, in the whole circumstances of the case, the terms
offered (3/.65. Bd. per cent.) should be accepted.—(Cheers
and expressions of disapprobation.) But, let it not be
understood that he would not exert himself to the utmost
in his power, to obtain better terms. He thought, how-
ever, that the most prudent course would be, to take the
terms that were then offered, resolving, through the Duke
of Wellington, or whoever the foreign Minister might be,
to keep up an unceasing series of communications with the
Government of Spain, until some better and more equitable
terms were obtained. With that view, he should decidedly
support the resolution moved by Mr. Cohen.
Mr. YOUNG said, that if the resolution that had been
proposed, were adopted, it would amount to no surrender
of tne principle of justice not only as regarded themselves,
but as regarded others : and, at the same time, would be
makinc, but a very poor return to the Committee of the
StocCExchange, for the honourable an,l manly manner in
which it had persisted in upholding the Ca 'ise of the
!-bond-
holders against what he could call by no otb. .n. name than a
swindling transaction. He therefore warned the meeting;
against giving way to the timid policy that was recon3-
mended to them. He begged to move an amenda:ent, to
the effect that it was the opinion of the meeting tha t thc,
act of the Spanish Government with reference to the pay-
ment of the foreign debt, in placing any part of the arrears
of interest in a passive state, was not consistent with equal
justice ; and that until equal justice was done to the: Cortes
Bondholders, the gentlemen of the Stock Exchang e be re-

ME SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 1834.

quested not to allow any new Spanish loan to be quoted
upon their Exchange.—(Hear,
Mr. KEMBLE supported the original resolution.
Mr. GOLDSMID opposed it, and read a string of resolu-
tions, which he intended to propose, and which were to
the effect, that the holders of the new loan should not be
placed on a better footing than the holders of Cortes Bonds,
and that until the holders of the latter were equally well
situated with the former, the Committee of the Stock Ex-
change be requested Dot to allow any new Spanish security
to be quoted upon their Exchange.--(Hear.)
The CHAIRMAN said, lie had just received a communica-
tion from the Spanish Charge d'Affaires, which he read.
It was as follows :

" 51, Portland-place, Dec. 15, 1834.
" Sir,--As Charge d'Affaires of Spain, I beg to inform you
that the Government of her Majesty has already been made
acquainted with the object of the meeting of Spanish bond-
holders, to take place this day, and that I feel the strongest
confidence that their wishes will be favourably and speedily
entertained.
" In this understanding, and should the meeting abstain
from any deliberation which might even for a moment affect
the credit of Spain, to consolidate and increase which her
Majesty's Government will never fail to make the greatest sa-
crifice, as an essential principle of their administration, and
should they, previously to deliberating, likewise deem it their
interest to learn the real feelings of the Government towards
the bondholders, please to appoint the time when I may wait
for you at this residence, and I shall be ready to give every
information in my power to show the confidence which they
ought to repose in the good faith and rectitude of the Spanish
Government.

(Signed) " IGNACIO JABAP.
" Thomas Weeding, Est,, Chairman to the Committee of the

Spanish Bondholders."
When the cheers with which this communication was
received had subsided, the CHAIRMAN suggested that the
meeting ought to adjourn to that day week, in order that
time might be given to him, as their Chairman, to commu-
nicate with the Spanish Charge d'Affaires.
Mr. KRMBLE deprecated any further discussion, after the
communication that had just been made and proposed. He
(Mr. Kemble) begged that the • meeting do adjourn to this
day week ; that the Chairman of the Committee be re-
quested to communicate with the Spanish- Charge d'Af-
faires ; and that a letter be written to the-Stock Exchange
Committee, requesting them to persevere in the same
course that they had hitherto pursued, until the result of
the next meeting should be known.
This proposition Nave rise to another scene of general
confusion, amidst which Mr. Ricardo was loudly called for.
Mr. IIicARDQ vindicated the conduct of M. Ardouin in
—.ore
tinctly heard.
but nbscrvatiens were not dis-
net to this loan ;

TIiOnNToN said that as a large bondholder he felt
bound to state that he was perfectly satisfied with the
statement that had been made by Mr. Ricardo.
Upon the question of adjournment, a scene of great
tumult ensued ; some proposing that the adjournment
should be till Monday next, others till Thursday, and some
till to-morrow. After much difficulty and confusion it was
finally determined that the adjournment should be till Mon-
day next.

The meeting of Spanish bondholders which took place
to-day occupied the chief attention of the dealers in foreign
securities, but it lost much of its interest from the circum-
stance that the struggle anticipated was suspended by a
notice from the Spanish Embassy, intimating a desire on the
part of the Government to make any reasonable concession
that might be desired, on the receipt of which the meeting
was adjourned for a week, and a deputation from the com-
mittee of bondholders is appointed, we understand, to wait
on the Ambassador to-morrow morning. Till his propo-
sitions are known, nothing can be said respecting the course
Which the holders of Cortes bonds are likely to take ; but
it has struck many persons as extraordinary that such a
communication should not have been made before the meet-
ing had assembled, and the suspicion is freely expressed,
therefore, that it was kept in reserve, and only to be pro-
duced in the event of the proceedings taking a turn
unfavourable to the Spanish Government. From the
temper of the meeting, it appeared in the early part of it,
that a large number, probably a majority of the persons
present, were disposed to adopt Mr. Cohen's resolution,
and to accede to the terms offered, though they still meant
to protest against them, and to claim a modification of
them at some future period. One of the leading members
of the committee also supported that course, while others
opposed it. The situation is a most embarrassing one,
whether the case of the Cortes bondholders, that of the
contractors for the loan, or that of the Spanish Govern-
ment, is considered. But it is by no means certain, even
if all the difficulties are overcome, and the new stock,
which is the chief matter now at issue, admitted to quota-
tion in the official list, that the loan will be a successful
operation in this market ; and one thing seems to have been
lost sight of by all parties, which is, that even should the
new stock come into general circulation, it may turn out
to be, in the end, but shifting the burden from one class
of English creditors to another. The result of the pend-
ing negotiation is looked for by the parties concerned with
degree of interest corresponding with the large stake in-
volved in it.-111orning Paper.

ROLL'S COURT.-DEC. 16.

HARRISON V. WILTSHIRE.
This was a general demurrer for want of equity, and the
facts of the case were as follows :—Mr. Beauvoir, an attor-
neY, one of the defendants to this suit, being a creditor of
one of his clients, Mr.. Estcourt Cresswell, obtained from
that gentleman the execution of a bond for 3,000/., with in-
terest, to the defendant, Mr. Wiltshire, who was a creditor
of Mr. Beauvoir. Mr. Cresswell died, and his representa-
tives filed the present bill to have the bond delivered up, it
being alleged that Mr. Beauvoir had obtained the execution
of the bond from Mr. Creswell, who was a very old man,
and nearly incapable of managing his affairs, by representing
that his bill of costs amounted to 3,0001., whereas, in reality,
it had only amounted to a small sum, 1,0001. at the utmost.
The defendant, Mr. Wiltshire, to whom the bond had been
executed, had put in a general demurrer, on the ground that
there was a total want of equity in the bill as against him,
and which was now before the Court.
Mr. BICKERSTETH appeared in support of the demurrer.
Mr. TINNEY, for the plaintiffs, proceeded to contend that
the defendant, Mr.' Beauvoir, had been guilty of fraud, in-
asmuch as he bad obtained the execution of the bond from
Mr. Cresswell, on the representation that that gentleman
was indebted to him in the suns of 3,000/. for costs.
His HONOUR the Master of the Rolls thought that the
three grounds on which the plaintiff had endeavoured to
support the demurrer failed, and that, consequently, the de-
murrer ought to be allowed.

COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, DEC. 16.

PARKER AND ANOTHER V. SCHENCE.

`fins Was an action upon a charter-party.
The plaintiffs being owners of a steam-vessel called the
London Merchant, trading between London and Rotter-
dam, on the 21st June, 1833, entered into a charter-party
with the defendant, a very respectable merchant in the
City, for the payment of 2,200/. a voyage, as the hire or
freight of that vessel, he covenanting to proceed so many
• times within each month backwards and forwards, naming
the days, and particularly undertaking to make four voyages
in December then ensuing, or forfeit the amount of hire,
excepting he was prevented so doing by• act of Providence,
or in consequence of stormy and tempestuous weather.
The vessel having only made three voyages during that
month, the present action was brought to recover the 2201.,
the freight agreed to be paid. The charter-party had been
"assigned since to the General Steam Navigation Company,
upon their purchasing the London Merchant, so that the
plaintiffs upon the record were only nominal ones, this
action being brought by the Company.
The Jury found a verdict for the defendant.

COURT OF EXCHEQUER, DEC. 16.

DENTON V. SAVAGE.

This was an action to recover compensation in damages
for an assault. The plaintiff is a horse-dealer, and the de-
fendant a cheescmonger, both parties residing in White-
chapel. On the 18th of April last, the plaintiff and de-
fendant had been before the Court of Requests upon some
matter in dispute between them. Upon that occasion the
decision was in favour of the defendant, who indulged in
many exulting expressions over the plaintiff after the par-
ties had left the Court. These facts were admitted on
both sides.

The plaintiff's witnesses (two young women, strangers to
both parties), declared that the defendant, without provo-
cation, struck the plaintiff a severe blow in the face, from
which the blood streamed in profusion.
The Jury returned a verdict for the plaintiff—Da-
mages, CO!.