The Sun.
London, England, 1851-08-27 00:00:00

found Biddy Moore and some other girls. Lockyer,
a police-constable, was also there. The girls said,
" Here comes the coppers." They ran up the
stairs of No. 28, Lockyer and myself pursuing them.
I went into the room after her and fetched her down
stairs, and her brother then took her home. Neither
Cole nor Lockyer was at this time using any violence
towards the deceased, Cogan.
Mr. Alderman WiLsoN—Did they bring Biddy
Moore down stairs by the hair of her head ? Wit-
ness—No, she walked before me. I heard Biddy
Moore say that Lockyer went into the room after
her. It was not Lockyer; It was I who went in.
Mr. Alderman WiLsoN—Was any one in the pas-
sage besides you as you were coming down ? Witness
—I did not notice.

Mr. Alderman WlLsoN—Where was Cogan at the
time ? Witness—Standing at the corner of the court
eating, some bread and meat. He took no part in the
disturbance made by the girls.
Mr. Alderman WiLsoN—What were Cole and
Lockyer doing when you were upstairs with Biddy
Moore ? Witness—l was the first that went upstairs.
Lockyer followed me. I looked behind to see if Cole
was following as well, but I cannot say whether he
came up or remained below stairs.
Mr. Alderman WiLsom—Then what became of
Cole, or what he did while vou were upstairs, you do
not know ? Witness—No. When I came down, and
Biddy Moore's brother took her away, I and the
other two policemen went on our beats.

Mr. Alderman WlLsoN—When you and Lockyer
came down together, Biddy Moore walking before
you, where was Cole ? Witness—ln the court, a few
doors off.

William Lockyer, police-constable 264—1 was
examined at the Coroner's inquest. I saw the de-
ceased in Plumtree•court up to two o'clock on the
morning of his death. He was talking to two others.
I said to them, " Come, my lads, it's time for you to
get away now." They moved away ; and when I got
to the corner I think I saw them return to the
spot where they were standing when I passed them.
Ido not remember seeing Cogan at No. 28. I was
not at No. 28, nor did I turn my bull's-eye into the
passage of 28. During the time I was in the court I
did not see any violence committed on the person of
the deceased by Cole or Marshall. I did not commit
any myself. I did not pull Biddy Moore down stairs
by the hair of her head, although I, in company with
Marshall, went upstairs after her. She came down
assisted by another woman, otherwise she would have
fallen from top to bottom, being intoxicated.
Mr. Alderman WlLsoN—What induced you two
policemen to go upstairs after Biddy Moore? Wit-
ness—There was another girl with her, and I knew
they did not live there. A woman had called out to
me, " Turn them out ; they don't live in the court:"
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Mr. Alderman WILSON--Where was Cole at this
time ? Witness—Outside, near the door.
Mr. Alderman WILSON—Where was Cogan at this
time ? Witness—l never saw him till two o'clock.

Mr. Alderman WlLSON—Suppo3ing any scuffle to
have taken place in the passage, a policeman using
his staff, and any person to have called out " For
God's sake don't murder me," must you have heard
it? Witness—l must; lam positive of it.
Mr. Alderman WILSON—Are you prepared to state
that no scuffle took place ? Witness—When upstairs
I could not see what was doing below, but I am con-
fident I must have heard something of it if a scuffle
had taken place or violence bad been used.

Mr. Alderman WILSON—How long were you up
stairs ? Witness—Not five minutes.

Mr. Alderman WlLsoN—What kept you so long as
five minutes ? Witness—A minute or two soon slips
away ; perhaps we were not up stairs so long.
Henry Webb, police-constable 258—1 accompanied
Inspector Cale at the time of his making inquiries re-
specting the death of Cogan. I have heard his evi•
dente to-day, and it is a correct statement of every-
thing that occurred.
Charles Andrews—l live at 62, Shoe-lane, and am
a pewterer. I was at the inquest. Long and his
wife were there. I heard the Coroner ask Long to
luok round and see if he could point out the police-
man who was charged with having caused the death
of Cogan. Long was confused, and stated he could
not. His wife then pulled him by the jacket, which
caused him to look at Cole, whom he then pointed out
as being the policeman. The summoning officer then
separated them. lat the time communicated to
Sergeant Pattison what I had observed.
John Moss, police-constable 225—1 t is utterly im-
possible to see from the window of Mrs. Long's house
anything that takes place in the passage of No. 28.