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London, England, 1851-08-05 00:00:00

BILL.

Oa the motion for the third reading of the above Bill,
and after a few words from Lord ',`IONTEAGLE,
Lord REDESDALE moved that the Bill be read a
third time that day three months.
Their Lordships divided, when there appeared—
For the Bill ... 11
Against
Majority ... —4
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
NEW ZEALAND SETTLEMENTS BILL.

Earl GREY moved the second rqading of this Bill.
The Duke of NE WCASTLE expressed his satisfac-
tion that certain chiuses in the original Bill, involving
constitutional questions, which would have caused great
discussion, had been withdrawn.
After a few worth from Earl GREY, the Bill was read
a second time.

The Board of Health (No. 2) Bill passed through
Committee.

The Board of Health (No. 3) Bill was read a firs
time.

The Lunatics (India) Bill paased through Committee,
and was subsequently read a third time and passed.
On the motion of Lord REDESDALE, the Collec-
tions of Fines (Ireland) Bill, the Constabulary Force
(Ireland) Bill, the Summary Jurisdiction (Ireland) Bill,
and the Petty Sessions (Ireland) Bill, were severally read
a first time.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

_HOUSE OF COMMONS, August 4.

(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL.

On the motion for going into Committee on this Bill,
Mr. HENRY moved that the committal be postponed
until to-morrow, to give the public an opportunity of
considering the amendments that had been introduced
into it.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was afraid the post-
ponement would be fatal to the Bill, and he therefore
hoped the motion would not be persevered in.
After a few words from Mr. BROTHERTON,
Mr. J. P. WESTHEAD said he had carefully exa-
mined the provisions of the Bill, and he thought the
measure was an exceedingly good one. He trusted the
motion for postponement would be withdrawn.
Mr. GREENE declared that the Bill was defective in
many of its details, and it was most unfair to press it
forward in this way at the eleventh hour. The question
of costs was not the only evil which the public com-
plained of in this case. The six months' right of speci-
fication was a far greater evil, but the Bill took no notice
of that, and he hoped the House would not allow it to
pass until it did. The Society of Arts, after a diligent
inquiry, had made an able report upon this subject, and
any legislation to be satisfactory to the public should
be founded upon the recommendations which that report
contained. Believing this Bill to be an interference with
the privileged of inventors, he should feel it his duty
to give the Bill all the opposition in his power.
Mr. LABOUCHERE acknowledged the subject to be
one of great importance and intricacy, but he thought
it had been sufficiently discussed on the second reading
of the Bill. It had been acknowledged by all scientific
men acquainted with the subject to be a Bill calculated
to work a great improvement.
Mr. RICARDO said ho did not think the House and
the country had not time to consider the Bill, and he
urged upon the Government the necessity of granting a
Committee in the next session to inquire into the whole
subject of parent laws.

Mr. W.-WILLIAMS complained of the conduct of
the Government in forcing upon the House the consi-
deration of a Bill of 54 clusses in ►he last three or four
days of the session, when the majority of Honourable
Members had left town.

The AT CORNEY- GENERAL said he was asto-
nished that the Hon. Member for Lambeth should object
to the passing of a Bill, the object of which was to
cheapen the taking. out of patents to an immense extent.
➢lr. MUNTZ did not approve of all the provisions of
the Bill, but he should support it as it was, rather than
have none at all. That was the opinion of his con-
stituents.

Sir DE LACY EVANS supported the Bill.
The [louse then went into Committee on the Bill.
Clauses 1, 2 and 3 were agreed to without discussion.
On clause 4,
Mr. GREENE proposed an amendment to omit the
power of appointing examiners of patents.
After some discussion, the Committee divided, when
there appeared—
For the amendment 2
Against it ... 46
Majority ... —44
The clause was then agreed to, as was also clause 5.
On clause 6,
Mr. RICARDO aslccd how the officers to be appointed
under the Bill were to be paid.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said all the fees re-
ceivable under the Bill would be paid into the Consoli-
dated Fund, and the officers would be paid by the Trea-
sury out of those fees. The fees to bo taken would be
regulated by the Treasury, and it was fully anticipated
that those fees would be amply sufficient to meet the
expenses of the Bill.
Mr. RICARDO asked if the deficiency would be
made up, supposing the fees were not sufficient? . _ _

Mr. C. LEWIS said in that case Government would
have to come to Parliament for a vote.

Mr. WILLIAMS said it appeared to him that the
real object of this Bill was to give additional patronage
to the Government at the expense of the public. It was
monstrous, and he should move that the Chairman do
report progress. _ .

111 r. LA:BOUCHERE hoped no unfair means would
be taken for defeating the Bill.
Mr. SPOONER also joined the Right Honourable
President of the Board of Trade in requesting that the
Bill might be met by argument, and not by obstructive
motions.

Mr. WILLIAMS said if the Government would give
him an assurance that no public money would be taken
for the purposes of the Bill, he would not further op-
pose it.

- The. motion for reporting progress was then with-
drawn and the clause agreed to.
On clausr+ 7 being proposed,
Mr. GREENE objected to it on the ground that the
conditions it imposed could not be complied with.
Mr. MUNTZ considered that the clause was unjust
to the inventor and the public. It required an inventor,
in the first instance, to deposit a perfect specification,
whereas, in the majority of instances, it was impossible
to do so until the party had acquired some little expe-
rience in regard to his invention.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the clause called
upon a person to deposit a provisional specification,
giving a general character and outline of his invention;
he then had protection for six months, and if he followed
up his application at the end of that time he would be
placed in the same position as if his patent dated from
the provisional specification.
After some further conversation the clause was agreed
to, the CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave
to sit amain to-morrow.
SUPPLY OF WATER TO THE METROPOLIS.

Sir J. GRAHAM brought up the report of the Com-
mittee to which the Bills for supplying water to the
metropolis were referred, and gave notice that he would
to-morrow move that the evidence taken before the Com-
mittee should be printed.
The House adjourned shortly after Three o'clock until
Five.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.
PETITION.

Several petitions were presented in favour of the con-
tinuance of the Crystal Palace.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG presented a petition from the
brewers of London, complaining that the officers of Cus-
toms spoiled their export beer by tapping it to ascertain
its quality.
Sir B. HALL presented a petition complaining of the
manner in which the Bishop of London exercised his
manorial rights.
NOTICE OF MOTION.
Mr. E. B. ROCHE gave notice that early next session
he should move that one day in each week shall be set
aside iu which Irish notices and orders should have pre-
cedence of all other business.
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MIMBER,
Lord PALMERSTON said treaties had been entered
into between the republic of Buenos Ayres and the Bri-
tish Government. A similar treaty had been proposed
with France, but difficulties had arisen, and he believed
the treaty would not be ratified by France before the
close of the present session of the Assembly.
RAILWAY FROM CAIRO TO SUEZ.
In regard to another question also from Mr. URQU-
HART,
Lord PALMERSTON said, her Majesty's Govern-
ment were of opinion that a railway from Cairo to Suez
ould be a very wise and expedient undertaking, and
contribute to the prosperity of England, and be
of adv.mtage to all other countries baying intercourse
with Egypt. The British Governo*nt hal tnteied
into no guarantee of any sort or kind with regard to
the construction of the railroad.
EXAMINATION OF CANDIDATES FOR THE

ARMY.
Colonel REID asked the First Lord of the Treasury,
in the absence of the Secretary at 'War, whether the
examination of candidates for commissions in the army
was still to be left to the discretion of the civil profes-
sors of Sandhurst College, or to be conducted under the
personal supervision of field officers compete,:t to judge
of the educational fitness of gentlemen for regiments
man?

Lord J. RUSSELL said all he could state at present
was that he believed the Commander-hi-Chief was very
well satisfied with the manner in which the exatninations
had hitherto been conducted.

ATTENDANCE OF LETTER-CARRIERS AT

CHURCH ON SUNDAY.

Mr. PACKE asked the Secretary to the Treasury
whether the recommendation contained in the report of
the Commissioners appointed to investigate the question
of Sunday labour in the Post•otfice, dated the 10th day
of August, 1850, " That where the duties are such us
to prevent the rural letter•carrier from attending divine
service, an arrangement be made for providing a substi-
tute at least on the alternate Sundays," bad been carried
into effect; and if not, whether it was the intention of
the Postmaster-General to adopt it?
Mr. C. LE WIS said there was considerable difficulty
in obtaining information from different parts of the
country, in order to carry the recommendation into ef-
fect, but it was the intention of the Postmaster-General
to adopt the recommendation as soon as the arrange-
ments could be completed.