The Sun.
London, England, 1805-07-13 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

JULY 12.
Mr. W. Dtettets-soN presented a Letter from the •
Com Missioners of the Navy to the Lords of the Ad-
miralty, containing a Memorial from the Commis-
sioners to the House of Commons, in answer to
' the Third Report of the Commissioners of Naval •
Inquiry,
On the Motion; that the above Memorial be laid
on the Table,
Mr, KINNAIRD rose and observed, that hoW-
erer unwilling he might be to disturb the tranquil,
lity of the House at this late period of the S•:?i,sion,
he felt it to be his duty to oppose the Motion for
hying this Paper on the Table. After thembserva-
tions that were made from the Chair yesterday, he •
'owned, he felt the utmost astonishment at the pre-
sentation of this Memorial, notwithstanding the in-
genuity with which it was veiled in. 'a Letter to the
Board of Admiralty. Could any thing be more in-
dnent than that the Com Missioners of the Navy
should address a Letter'to the Lords of the Admiral-
ty, containing, not matters subjc& to their =side-
ratipn, but merely a Memorial:froth those Commis-
sioners to the House of Commons ? After the warn-
ing that had been given from the Chair, the Com 7
inissioners had recourse to this sehterfuge, to induce
the House to accept • that which they had before re-
jeeted. The objeotion Made by the Ss' utett to the
prOdualon of these Papers yesterday remained in
full force, and he could not help considering this
attempt to convert the Lords of the Admiralty into a
channel by which to introduce an objec=tionable
Paper, a dire& insult, which the Howe of Com-
mons ought not to pet up But this was not'
11;s roily objeetion to the laying of the Paper on the
Table. The mode of introdOcing it betrayed a fear
of Inquiry on the part' ,r the CommisSioners of the.
Navy (hear, hear, hear); and be trusted that this ap-
prehension would go forth to :he Public. They had
not dared to come .forward and dt...mand_ an Inquiry.
Since yesterday, a stronger reason had occurred fur
re;;isting the produaion of this taper. The House
of Commons had a great duty to perfbrr9. It had
to'sbew the Public, that it was ever ready to defend
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the Service of the'rtirDr.e; Ir 1,64.4 rh11114.9_
011141 e W.ould willingly depredate, and it had to re-
sist any.insinuations such as those made last night
by the• Gentlemen opposite, by it/11101(141g, its con-
sent to any '.such partial measures as. were then pro-
posed. This argument received additional weight
from the declaration since made.•by the individual at
the head of the Commissioners of Naval Inquiry,.
than whom it would be difficult to point out a more
)onottrable or praise...worthy charaEter, ~who had dis- '
tiOe:tly said, that the impediments thrown in their
way, and the caluMnies cast upon 'them by those
ics le, were interested in the failure of their obje&,
made' it a matter of serious apprehension that the
Country would be deprived of the services of that
Meritorious Commission. He trusted, however,
that the efforts of the House, the gratitude of the
Public, and the confidence of every man in the
bamtry, would b 3 sufficiont to induce the Com-
missioners: to spurn with contempt the attacks of
;how; who wished to withdraw from the. Public the
oixercise of their 'zeal, their talents, their honour,
ru-d their indwtry. With regard to what was said
in; t night by an Hon. Baronet—
Mr: S. BotraNv. rose to order.
The. SettAxert obserVed, that the lion. Gentle-
II Nr.Li certainly nut correct in replying to what
had bees urged on a former debate.
Mr. IiAtotAIRD resumed.—lt had been slid by the
Gentlemen opposite, that an am;iety had been shewn
• to avoirt any Itiquiry hito the conduet of the late
'Admiralty Board, by the disposition which was ma-
piteste4 to resist, the introdu6tion of this Paper. In
answer to this he should declare, that nothing could
be mare consonant to the wish of that Board,' thim
that a tUll and fair . investigation of ,their coati&
should be infitituted. But what investigation? What
Inquiry ? One by thi.filuse.. 'Net merely 'the ca-
buntiloos assertions of Persons now in (thud. It
'ag, it. his'opirdon, a great reproach to the Geinle-
men oilLosite; it wtis in the highest degree, ti roga-
tory to their eharaCter, that they were not prepared
demand an inquiry (a proper inquiry) by a Com-
mittee of the House-of Commons Ile regretted
more particularly, atter the declaration made by the
Hon. Baronet last night, that they had not: enough
of fairness in their disposition, or of confidence m
their' innoc!ence, to demand such tint ingniry, Flt
;;;:onFiitl6red it as very extraordinary,' that at so late a
period of the SeAoh such a Memorial should.be
presented at all he should consider it still more
"dttradrdinary if it were received, after What had
been declared by the chair last night, that this wait
riot the proper mode of presenting such a Mernerial.
Sir A. S. am toND spoke to order. Ile appealed
o the SPEAKER, whether or not:the mode in which
the Memorial had been presented was not in ptridt,
conformity to his observationa.
The .SPEAKER observed, that to the way in which
Aoffered be had
the Memorial weep. originally ,
certainly urged 'as an oblation, that it was irregular
h such a manner to receive the Memorials of indi-
Nhich
icluals. tie bad then stated two ways by which
the faOs contained iF that Memorial could be snip

dueed to the knowledge of the House. The first
Was by Means of a Petition fromthe Commissioners
of the Navy, pleading grievanees and praying. for
redress :the other, by:moving. for the produaion of
such acial CoiTespondence as might contain the
matter which it was deemed desirablq to lay,before
the lElonse. ,On the 30th of April a' similar. mode
had been adopted, iu conformity to which the Mo
tion of yesterday had been framed.
Mr. E DiN reque'sted that the debate might be
stispended for a few thinutes,,to allow him to present
a Petition from Captain Wood relative to, the con-
dud of Admiral. Duckworth .in the West Indies ;
but a Message from the Lords being announced,
The. SeE.,,KLE reillark&l; that nothing was more
strictly in order than to allow of the admission of
the Messengers in the midst of a debate.,

The Ailessengers being accordingly admitted, they
informed the House that 'the House of Lords. had
taken into consideration the Answer of the Com-•
moos to their Message, requesting the Commons
would communicate.to them the evidence on whith
they had been induced to accede to the prayer of
the Duke of Atholl's Petition, and that they had
been direeled to acquaint the Commons, that the
purport of the request was, to obtain information
of the grounds of their proceeding ; and that the
Lords conceived that the custom of Parliament au-
thorized their requesting evidence touching the Bills
passed by the House of Commons.
The Messengers having withdrawn, it was order-
ed, on the Motion of Lord GLENBERVIE, that a
'Message be sent to the Lords, intimating, that their
request was not warranted by the custom of Parlia-
ment, Or the Privileges of the House of Commons,
from which they were determined never to depart.
The LtsnEn of the BLACK ROD then made his
appearance, . and desired the attendance of the House
in the House of. Peers, to hear the Lords Commis-
sibners give the Royal Assent to several Public and
PriVate Pills, and prorogue Parliament.
The SPE4KtR, with the whole of the Members
present; went up accordingly to the House of Lords,
and On his return, calling round the Table the Mem-
bers, read to them a Copy of the Speech (for which
see the Proceedings of the House of Lords)'.' The
Members then separated,

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SATURDAY, JULY 13, 1805..

WE received .this morning the Mail
due on Wednesday, Of which the following arc the
principal contcnts:

VIENNA; JuNr, .26.—T0-ilay a Great Council of
Statei at which His Imperial Majesty presided, was
held here, on aftairs relative to the internal: Adrni,