The Sun.
London, England, 1834-02-19 00:00:00

LONDON, AVEONEsDAy
__II:VENING,..I_,IB;IIiIItTA.RY 19, 1834.

ture. He deplored the want of such a school, and hoped that
the Legislature would very shortly take up the subject.
Mr RUTHVEN presented a petition from the Presby-
terians of the parish of Knockbreda, near Belfast, for the
abolition of tithes. The Hon. Member, on presenting the
petition, observed that the present tithe laws had been the
cause of keeping alive many of those animosities and ill_
feelings with which Ireland had latterly been troubled. With
reference to the Irish landlords, he must confess that the ob-
servations of the Hon. Member for Cork went too far.—
(Hear, hear.) He did not think that all the landlords of
Ireland were tyrants ; but he was very much afraid that
that appellation might be applied, with a good deal
of truth, in reference to many of them. With respect to the
poor of Ireland, in his opinion the day was not far distant
when the landlords of that country would be forced, either by
poor laws or otherwise, to afford them much more ample relief
than they were disposed to do at present.
Mr. RUTHVEN, jun. supyorted the petition.
Mr. A. JOHNSTONE wished to know what denomination of
Presbyterians the petitioners were, whether of the Synod of
Ulster or otherwise? . .

Mr. RUTHVEN was not well informed on polenlical sub.
jects—(Hear, and a laugh)—ho was, however, well acquainted
with the Presbyterian Dissenters of that part of the country
from which the petition emanated, but whether they believed
in an old or a new light he did not take upon himself to in..
quire.—(Hear, and laughter.)
Mr. JOHNSTONE was ready to admit, from what he had
heard from Irish Members, that the Presbyterians of the Synod
of Ulster were a most respectable body, but he considered if
they had signed the present petition they had departed from
their principles. The title of Presbyterian had now become so
general that all sorts ofdenominations had taken refuge under it.
In support 6f this the Hon. Member stated that out of 210
endowments originally bestowed upon Presbyterians holding
communion with the Church of Scotland, 170 had fallen into
the hands of the Socinians. He hoped that these endowments
would return into the possession of those to whom they ori.
ginally belonged. _ . .

Mr. FERGUS O'CONNOR begged to explain relative to
the scrape he had got into with the Hon. Member for Dublin,
as to the term " tyrannical," as applied to the landlords of
Ireland. It appeared that there really was no elifference between
himself and the Hon. Member, and he was quite ready to give
them the full benefit of the admission that rents were not
set too high except with regard to capital.—(Hear, heat) The
Landlords were of course guided by the market.price
of land. It appeared, however, that the Hon. Member agreed
with him as to the mode in which the landlords treated their
tenants, by turning them out of their holdings. He could
name hundreds of landlords who had acted in this oppressive
manner. He (Mr. O'C.) as a barrister, in whom the people
had some confidence, had numerous applications every day as
to the mode by which they should defend themselves from
their landlords and this clearing system. He knew hundreds
and thousands of Catholic families who had been ousted from
their holdings to make room for Protestant families. What state,
he would ask, was that Catholic tenant fit for who, anxious to
pay his rent, was turned out by his landlord? Was he not
fit to become a Whiteboy, a traitor, and a rebel, when he
was thus treated by the person who should be his protector and
guardian ?
' ' "

Mr. WALKER explained. There was no question but that
any landlord, who persecuted his tenant for religious or politi-
cal opinions, acted most tyranically.
Mr. SINCLAIR could not see what the people would gain
from the abolition of tithes. What was now given to the
ministers would fall into the pockets of the landlords, who were
represented as so tyrannical and oppressive.
Mr. PALMER presented a petition from the parish of Dat-
chet, in the county of Berks, complaining that the duty on
malt and hops pressed heavily 'on agricultural industry, and
prayed for their immediate repeal. It was signed by 204
farmers, and every other person connected with agriculture in
the parish. The distress of the agriculturists had been no-
ticed in the King's Speech, but thepetitioners were disappointed
that no means were pointed out by which those distresses could
be relieved. He (Mr. Palmer) thought that the petitioners had
gone too far in asking for the immediate repeal of both taxes.
The Hon. Member also presented a similar petition from the
parish of Butterworth.
Mr. THROGMORTON said he had been requested to sup-
port the prayer of the petition.
Mr. SINCLAIR presented a petition from a parish in Caith.
ness against Church patronage.

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Mr. GUEST presented a petition from members of the
Baptist persuasion in Glamorganshire, praying that further
relief might be granted to the Dissenters, and thanking the
House for the relief already granted.

Mr. FITZSIMON presented a petition from the tithe payers
of East Rush, in the county of Dublin, praying that they might
be relieved from the payment of tithes. They stated that the
distress was greater from their having no domestic Legislature
to apply to for redress. The Hon. Member presented a petition
from the same place, praying for a repeal of the legislative union.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from the Trustees of the
East Smithfield Improvements, with respect to some alteration
in the Act of 52 George 111.
Mr. WARBURTON presented a petition from some Medi-
cal Society in London, praying that the House, in inquiring
into the state of medical corporations, would not overlook the
practice of midwifery.
There being no other petitions to present, the SPEAKER left
the chair at a quarter after two o'clock.

hear.) While, however, they were compelled to sojourn
here, he had no doubt they would partake of that kind-
ness which was ever extended to the unfortunate. Ile
concluded by proposing the first resolution, which expressed
the deep horror of the assembly at the continued cruelties prac-
tised upon the Poles, and expressed their conviction that the
struggle between the Russians and the Poles was one between
might and right, justice and oppression, despotism and liberty.
—(Cheers.)
The Earl of DARLINGTON seconded the motion, and expressed
his full concurrence in all the sentiments delivered by the
!sloble Lord. It was true that he differed with the general
politics of the country, but lie maintained an independent
position, and hated all tyranny and oppression.—(Cheers.)
The resolution was then agreed to. ,

Mr. SHEIL, on coming forward to propose the second reso-
lution, was hailed with loud and repeated cheers. He
considered it ss high honour to occupy his present position.
The object of the present meeting, however, was not merely to
give vent to declamation, but to make out such a case as to
justify the demand, not for benevolence, but for justice.—
(Hear.) In 1815, the independence of Poland was secured by
treaty, and a con stitution given to her by the Emperor Alexander,
to which England was a party; that constitution was after-
wards withdrawn. The three days of France aroused the
Poles, but that moment was allowed to pass, and the opportu-
nity for intervention on the part of France and England lost.
Any man or woman who had heard of the deeds of heroism that
marked that passage in the history of Poland, could not but
sympathise with those fathers who bled for their children, and
those mothers who braved the inclemency of the biting frost
and the edge of the sword, to encourage and to tend their bus.
bands through the fight.—(Cheers.)

(.4'lle Meeting was not concluded when we went to press.)

THE PENSION LIST.

LIST OF TEL
Of 184, Tellers included, who
Motion, that a Select Commit
the consideration of each Gra,
port the same to the House.
ENGLAND. _

Attwood, Thos.—Birmingham
Baillie, J. E. _Bristol

E MINORITY
voted for Mr. D. W. Harvey's
tee be appointed to Inquire into
nt in the Pension List, and re.

Bainbridge, E. T.—Taunton
Barnard, E. G.—Greenwich
Beaneles*, Aubrey Wm.—East

Surrey
Benett,-I—South Wiltshire
Bewes, T.—Plymouth
Bish, T.—Leominster
Blackburne, J.—Huddersfield
Blake, Sir F.—Berwick
Blunt Sir C.—Lewes

Rippon, C.—Gateshead
Robinson, G. R.—Worcester
Roebuck, J. A.—Bath
Romilly, E.—Ludlow
Sanford, E. A.—West Somer-

Boss, G.—rlorthallerton
Bowes, John—South Durham
Briggs, R.—Halifax
Briscoe, J. I.—East Surrey
Brocklehurst, J.—Macclesfield
Brotherton, Joseph—Salford
Buckingham, J. S.—Sheffield
Buller, C.—Liskeard
Cayley, K S.—N. Yorkshire
Chaytor, Sir W.—Sunderland
Chichester, J. P. B.—Barnstaple
Clay, W.—Tower Hamlets
Codrington, Sir E.—Devonport
Collier, J.—Plymouth

Crompton, J. g.—Ripon
Curteis, H. B.—East Sussex
Curteis, E. B.—Rye
Davies, Colonel—Worcester
Dawson, A. E.—South Leices-

tershire
Dillwyn, L. W.—Glamorgansh.
Div ett, E.—Exeter
Dykes, F. L. B —Cockermouth
Evans, Col—Westminster
Ewalt, W.—Liverpool
Faithful, George—Brighton
Fancourt, Major.—Barnstaple
Fenton, John--Rochdale

Fielded, W. J.—Blackburn

Fielden,
_John—Oldham
Fleetwood, P. H.—Preston

Fort, J.—tlitheroe
Fryer, R.—Wolverhampton
Gaskell, Daniel—Wakefield
Godson, R.—Kidderminster
Goring, H.D.—New Shoreham
Grote, G.—London
Guest, J. J.—Merthyr Tydvil
Gully, John—Pontefract
Hall, Benjamin—Monmouth
Handley, Benjamin--Boston
Handley, Henry—Lincolnshire
Hardy, John—Bradford
Hawes, B.—Lambeth
Heathcoat, J.—Tiverton
Hill, M. D.—Kingston-on-Hull
Hodges, T. L.—West Kent
Hudson, T.—Evesham
Hughes, Hughes—Oxford
Humphery, J.—Southwark
Hurst, R. H.—Horsham
Hutt, Wm.—Hull
Ingham, R.—South Shields
Jervis, J.—Chester

' setshire
Scholefield J.—Birmingham
Scott, J.W.—North Hampshire
Scrope, Ponlett—Stroud
Seale, Colonel—Dartmouth
Shawe, R. N.—East Suffolk
Sheppard, T.—Frome
Simeon, Sir R. G.—lsle of Wight
Spry, S. T.—Bodmin
Stanley, E. J.—North Cheshire
Staveley, T. K.—Ripon
Strickland, G.—West Yorkshire
Strutt, E.—Derby
Talmash, A. G.—Grantham
Tancred, H. W.—Danbury
fayleur, W.—Bridgewater
Tennyson, Right Hon. C.—
Lambeth
Thicknesse, R.—Wigan
Todd, J. Ruddell—Honiton
Cooke, W.—Truro
Torrens, Col. --Bolton
fownshend, Ld. C.—Tamworth
Trelawney, W. L. S.—East
Cornwall
Turner, W.—Blackburn
Vincent, Sir F.—St. Albans
Walter, John—Berks
Warburton, H.—Br idport
Wason, Rigby—lpswich
Watkins, J. L. V.—Brecon
Watson. R.—Canterbury
Whalley, Sir S.—Marylebone
Whitmore, W. W.—Wolver-
hampton
Wigney, I. N.—Brighton
Wi lurah am, G.—South Cheshire
wilks, John—Boston
Williams, W. A.—Monmouth-
shire
Williams, G.—Ashton
Windham, W. H.—E. Norfolk
Winn ington, H. Jeffreys—West
Worcestershire
Wood, Alderman—London
Young, G. T.—Tynemouth

Kemp, T. R —Lewes
Kennedy, J.—Tiverton
King, E. B.—Warwick
Langdale, Hon. C.—Beverley
Langton, Wm. Gore—East So-
mer:•etshire

Leech, J.—West Surrey
Lefevre, C. S.—North Hants
Lennox,LordW.—King's Lynn
Lennox, LordG.—West Sussex
Lennox, Lord A —Chichester
Lester, B. L.—Poole
Lister, E. Cunliffe.—Bradford
Lloyd, J. H.—Stockport
Locke, W.—Devizes
Marshall, J.—Leeds.

Martin, john—Tewkesbury
Methuen, P —North Wiltshire
Molesworth, Sir William—East
Cornwall
Moreton, H. G. F.—East Glou-
cestershire _

Palmer, General—Bath
Palmer, C. F.—Reading
Parker, Sir H.—West Suffolk
Parrott, Jasper —Totness
Pease, Joseph—South Durham,
Petre, Hon. E. R.—York
Philips, Mark—Manchester
Plumptre, J. P.—East Kent
Potter, R.—Wigan
Ratmbottom, J.—Windsor
Richards, J.—Knarcsborough
Rick ford, W.—Aylesbury
Rider, Thomas—West Kent