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with the hoe. and gallant admiral (Napier). ; the house, but the aut, Itorities of others-of Captain Hall, . 'Tan that subject maY have arrived in time t° allow of an at" were most zealously anxious for the attack on Acre. The , doe-sin of that flae than was taken by the board to which he came to this, that they were in f„t providing for the „hi.
shift of wind which forced your division to attack from the belonged. The hon. and gallant admiral was not only vation of the whole country. The noble lord had talked
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rtiht iee sh, gSininaNdVe.."P ARRE R. TO NAPIER- Dec. 3, 1840. north, instead of the original plan of battle from the south, : thanked for his serviced, but he was thanked precieely in about encouraging education. Now, there was no differ- *a
exceptionable, and one that even the hon. and gallant /id- so doing. I have proc i ;
reversed the order of attack, which may have led to some . the came words thet Lord Howe was thanked for his vie- eller.) of opinion as to edu • 1• I tl l't
cation, w lic i meant le 1 erat•y• LIVERPOOL-APRIL 4.
miral shall not be able to object to. I shall Produce the think that they alone wi 11 suffice to show that I had more " Your opinion on the result of an early and vigorous ate
misconstruetion of orders by the ships astern ; but I have not ' tory of the Ist of June ; and yet he complained that he . education of the people-the education of the mind. Put
evidence of Sir Baldwin Walker, who was then in the ser- . than a s . .
hadow of truth i. tmy assertions. I wrote a letter tack has been verified."
disinclination to buy viheat and flour at any higher tering
A fair attendance to-day ef millers and dealers, but S
the sliehtest hesitation in stating that it was your firm COO- was no'., thanked sufficiently. Had he kept quiet, his cha- 'if the propositions of the noble lord were to be ado ted
th.an wetle practicable on last market day. The business
vice of the Turkish Government, holding the rank of al- Ito Sir C. F. Smith to kn 0, wif the hon.. and gallant ad- i , see c. ADAM To NANER,
iral. His evidence will be unimPeachahle- The neat Wit- miral was con_su.lted by hemor by Admiral stopford he. 1 a The board have written to sir R. stopford their adm7ra„ vietion that the ships of your division would have-anchored racter would not havo been damaged so much as it had where were they to stop ? Education did not meanpedu,-
1 tion of your intrepid and useful service 9, and to hoist a red ia succes•ion ahead of the Powerful. By this mode of attack ' been by his divulging ptivate letters, and compelling him eating the people in trades. The principle of these votes was
the anchored ships would protect the advancing ships, which (Admired Berkeley) in his official capacity to speak that substantially false. Why they might have a similar vote to articles of the trade remain much the same as on Tuesday'
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Illness I sha.ll bring is Sir Houston Stewart. He is commands , fore the attack .-
" Grosvenor-place, April 2. pennant." transac ions were moderate in extent. Quotations for e
last, excepting Indian corn, which was 6d per qr. lower,
aid not in so much favour.
- ing the Mediterranean fleet during the absence of Sir E.
SIR C. ADAM TO NAPIER. in my humble opinion is a subject of vital importance to the which he would much rather have left unsaid. this for teaching people to work mills. If the principal were
Lyons. I have had an opportanity of communicating with ~ Sir,-A. question haviu tg arisen in Parliament respecting
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lam most happy to express to you the pleasure I feel at protection of ships and their crews. Mr. LINDSAY had listened with much attention to the to be adopted, he could not see the limit that could be put to
- him, and the house shall hoar the written communication , the arrangements prior to 'ehe attack on Acre at the end of
s the British minter • •'e th C d • 11. fth 11 th "
your i eceivine e omman et sip o a a . " You question-whether I have read what has been said debate, and had been much grieved bythe right hon. baronet it. As to the model farm, he would have been glad to have
submitted to Sir H. Stewart and confirmed by him. I I October, 1810, I have to ar weal tF) you a k ' y
MINTO TO NAPIER-Oct. 7, 1810. in Parliament within these last few days on the subject of the going back for t 6 years, in order to attempt to rob the heard something from the Secretary for Irel nd aud some of _
• shall also produce the written evidence of Captain I officer in command on that. occasion, and to as whether the
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i congratulate you on the success of your operations on battle of Acre ? My answer is, I have been so fully emp'oyed gallant admiral of that which was dear, and must ever be the Irish members. So far as they were concerned uo illtuni- WAKEFIELD-APRU, 4.
Codrington, commanding the Talbot, who took all the determination to make thei attack was taken before orders to
the coast of Syria in which your zeal, judgment and ability I lreve not read a newspaper for some da s and lam ver • ,
y dear to him He had attacked hitni for his want of moral zation had been thrown upon this subject. He found that There is a fair quantity of grain on offer to-day. The, '
soundings, and who in every respect is a good witness. It taat (effect reached you nsed the admiral from home ; and
have been cons ic'uous." ' glad I have not, as it gbines me the opportuynit'y of answering courage. Why, the'comnionest sailor that trod a deck did there were 19 agricultural schools under this model farm. wheat trade is steady, and a moderate business doing " 1
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may be said that this is all naval evidence • but, I will ' whether Sir Chas. Napier vas consulted by you and the ad-
Sin R. SToPioRD TO Narten.-Nov. 6, 1840. 3e3ur qu'estions free of las.
not stop here- I will bring the evidence of gir C. Smith, 1 miral before your final decision was formed. not want moral courage. (Hear.) But the hon. and gal- (Hear, hear.) There was a model school in Limerick, and last week's rates. Fine heavy bailey ls per qr. dearer ; ill
"I do not apprehend that a difference of opinion implies "In the hope that you are better to-slay bent admiral had given a most triumphant answer to the surely the right lion. gentleman the Secretary to the Ord- other sorts no alteration. In beans, oats, and shelling Lo
who served with Admiral Stopford, and who commanded 1 " I make this inquiry because the accuracy of a statement
a ceesure upon either party, as I cannot allow infallibility of " Believe me, my dear Sir Charles, yo"u'rs faithfully, charges brought against him that evening. He had made a mince might have given them some information as to the change•
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mPnalyait
the military part of the expedition. I will read to the I made by me in Parliament has been impugned by Sir Charles
house my letter to Sir C. Smith and his reply. Having ' Napier. " I Walt your faithful and obedient b d Th t I d'ff d • • • f• •t• b
any oy. a 1 ere in opinion iora you is 1 ue, ut "F. LIANDET." very good finish of his case ; and it was to be hoped they working of that school. This was only one of 19 districts,
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done this I shall appeal to the hon. and gallant admiral "J. R. G. GRAHAM. that thereby a censure was intended is withoue foundation.' I commanded a ship during the greater part of the last war, should hear no more of it in that house. (Hear.) If the and this was a very good opportunity for the members for
arid the honse. lam willing to believe that in a moment " Lieut.-General Sir sC. F. Smith, K.C.8." No man knows better than the noble lord at the head of and I believe I took a greater number of batteries than anY statements of Sir J. Graham were correct, was it not ex- those districts to come forward and contribute to the debate.
n onnownnuare, April 3, 1856. the Government the hand I had in the affairs of Syria, and ether officer, except, Perhaps, Admiral Collingwood and one traor linary that immediately after the siege of Acre Sir (Laughter.) The country had fallen Mee habit of unnecessary to ee 6d. Malting b l 46it 4 9d •d• d Os
of haste the hon. and gallant-member for Southwark has ar ey, s t o s ; grin ing 0., .
quoted from 883(1
ther I took an island uon the coast of Na las C Ne ier shoul • •
expressed himself io l„,„ge too etrong. and that he has I Sin-I have the hon our to acknowledge your letter of the I trust the noble lord will state his opinion as to the share or two 0-- • , p P . cp d hasre received the thanks of that house, expenditure. He would not of course object to any expendi- Od to Os Od. Oats, 3s 4d to 3s 6d. Beans, Os Od mWI
' committed en error. i -may have committed many errors ,2d inst., in which I, a! having held the command of the allied - I had in the business. The following letter I received from with ta 0 shiPs, and without the loss of a single man• The and should have been decorated by his Sovereign with tura far the legitisaate education of the people but let it not Od. Peas, 00s Od to 00s Od.
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Sir W. Parker - right hon. baronet, the late First Lord of the Admiralty. vai ions honours ? Another point had been sufficiently au- •be an education which was to teach them trades and how to
lf• but 'f th h n and gallant admiral expresses his I land forces in Syria, at a appealed to for information respect- • : FLOUR. -F. - 491
me, 00s Oa ta ols Oa ; seconds, --s Oa to
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regret in having. written this letter-if he says he will not i ing the arrangements prior to the attack on Acre in 1840 ;
__ _ " Sherstone Lodge, Dec. 3, 1840. may say, " But why did you not perform similar achieve- swered. If Sir J. Graham, holding a very responsible till the soil. Od per sack.
adhere to the strong language in it-I for one shall be I and, as such len er app. i ilia Baltic 9" M answer to him is that there is iti wl‘• bbb in
ears to have been written under the 1` hIY dear Napier,-Most heartily do I congratulate you manta •ii - , • Y , Pos en, eice oe eesa at a most critical moment, knew Mr. HORSMAN said this vote was similar to one which CATTLE.-Fat (reef was sold at from 9.36 d to lOs 3d Pa,,,r
satisfied. I will now proceed to show to the house the 1 sanction of authority, 1.: can have no hesitation in stating that and your brave companions in arms on the reduction of St. a widedifferennee b
d t::t7velt:i
dehoingthat which, though difficult, (and he ought to have known), or supposed, er had reason the right hon. gentleman had himself introduced into tee score ; fat calves, sad to 6d per lb ; barrenners, 6s to 6s unt
proof of the first allegation that the naval attack on Acre on the 29th of Octoben .in that year it was filially determined Jean d'Acre, your opinions on the result of au early and \lgo- ie feasible, a( 1 ) it is absolutely itnpossible to to suppose, that the chargee he now made against Sir C. estimates when he was in office. lie (Hr. Hemmen) was not per score ; cows and calve', 12/. to 17/. -14 ; butcher/
ccomplish. F ear. I must now observe that I wrote to Na ier were correct wh did h
n ested by the hon. and gallant admiral (Na. between sir Robt. stootord and myself that the siege or Acre rolls attack have been verified to the letter, and accomplished a nr „ . :, , „. ~ , . h P , y e appoint him to the high prepared to vindicate all the items of the vote. It might be calves, -to -d per lb,, rearine calves -s to - s each.
was
• n:ttat, the first suggestion to Admiral stopforn and , should be forthwith undertaken, that the merit of the enter- in a manner most triumphant for OW profession and the ge- Sir B• "tn"reePress.ti,'g a. wisu tnat al° s"°?in sur;iP, and resPonsible Poeition of the command of the Baltic a question for future discussion, whether or not the commis- Sheep, ewss and lambs 2/.. to 2/. 5, ner counie . ewes ad
Fier), • h td f s• Bld• w ik d ' • .. ha ti se subsequent receipt of an order to go neral interests of Europe. I need not add that I have been me with ins opinion wit', reierence ta tne moue in wnica Fleet ? (Hear.) Sir James said he did not know of them eioners had acted wisely in disposine of the money which had' to aFi ; wethers, 61 ''4 r •r ' . •
Sir C. Smit emana e rom ir a win a or, an no prise was our s, wi e sd to 6ed ; lambs, I/ es each. 1110,
other quarter. I will first read this letter :-- had acted at Acre, and to that re uest I received the then. But he oueht to have know o t •it w is •
against it relieved us of a. Portion of the resPonsibility sve were delighted that a becoming acknowledgment of your own ener- I q 0 n f hem , as h hen placed by parliament at their*disposal-nrenical che re large size, 45s to 5Js ; second size, 24s to 30s : slips, 161
fillowina reply : -
4, my Lora,-I have the honour to-enclose an extract from . voluutarily on the eve o.E incurring; that Commodore Napi r gene and successful services has been manifested by the Go- e duty to have known of them before he appointed the gal- from the Opposition)-but this he was bound to say, that if to 20s ; suckers 6 t lb
, s o 12s. Rough fat, 3id per •
I was uot privy to our dete rminatiou, neither was he a party to nerument in your advancement to the first class broad pen- " Admiralty April 3, 1856. last admiral to a command where th ho •f E 1 1
e nom o og ant the vote asked for were now refused, the establishment which Pork e,arcases from
the Syrian journal of a gentleman employed in the Turkish
" M I • Sir Cherl s I d ? • •• f 1 , ins Od to lls Od per score.
dant and the Commandership ef the Bath, which has been Y s eel • e,- am place in a veiy p:iin II was at s.ake, and a great number of lives were placed in was now in active o eration, aud which it was admitted on
service, and a man of seuse. (The name of this gentleman , our plans and arrangeineut a for the expedition, all mine having
haa been mentioned to me d I • h • • L d ) been in progress of executi 'cm many hours before the Vesuvius
,an believe els now in on on. ; h ine to answer uestions ut to me b friends •
nobly won, and, I trust, will be long worn by you in health position in av . q . p y , hie hands. If he had taken the same pains as he had be- all hands had worked well, would be unceremoniously bro- --
BRISTOL SUGAR-APRIL 4.
' d • th r reports, arrived with the orders in question. Furthermore, I ought have made statements in the House of Commons which towed withi, asl or
and every possible enjoyment. I trust, also, that promotion who . s a i t time back in gettieg up these charges ken up.
This extract cont•uns matter not mentione in o e
end rewards to the officers of the squadron generally will be are at variance ; but, however disivereeable, lam bound to -a matter of far less im ortance to the count tl the Our market has been characterised by much firmness,
and states facts worth beiug submitted to your lordship's here to add, that on the mo.ening after I had taken possession •• P rY Jan Mr. M`MAHON said, he hoped that the vote proposed for hi.
and a fair b si s has
u nes been done in raw ?agars, at a slig ,
of the fortress, Sir Robert St opford communicated officially to liberally bestowed. 1 to them to the best of m ''
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rep y y reco ectio . t e p appointment to the command of the Baltic fleet- he must tl • • ld b ' i el' h
iis 3 ear won o granted, wita the understan ing tat on
attentiern-I have the honour, dic., advance on last week's quotations. The stocks in lilro
" PONSONBY." me, as his colleague, the ceneuxre that he felt it to be his duty " Believe me, my dear commodore, to that part of your letter in which you say, ' You must have known all that he knew now. Had he not with him future occasions such grants would be strictly inquired into.
to pass upon the conduct of commodore Napier during the " Always faithfully yours, surely remember we were all persuading and urging him (Sir at the Board Admiral Houston Stewart and Sir Baldwin hands are n w r tl reduced
o gea y . Refined goods a stead/
I will next read extracts from a Syrian journal :-
"W. PARKER, Rear-Admiral, R, Stopford) to go to Acre repeatedly,' I cannot call to mind Walker, whom he now brought forward as witnesses against Sir J. SHELLEY complained that the Secretary for Ire- sale, at prices quite as high. Rums still neglected.
operation. laud (Mr. Horsman) had done an injustice to the land-
(lnclosure in Ne. 249.) " Commodore Napier, dm." any conversation I had with him on the subject ; but Sir R. Sir C. Napier, at the very time when he appointed Sir ...-...---.
" I have the honour to be, .nr, your most obedient, humble
Extract from Journal.) ord told me on niere occasions than one that -ou were
Stopf , • a Charles to the command of the Baltic fleet ?If he did not owners of Ireland in supposing they required this vote. Those ,
" Sunday, Sept. 27. servant, " C.. :F. SMITH, Lieut.-General." I shall be able to show that Sir R. Stopford did not disap-
opposed to an attack on Acre. As far as my recollection make full inquiry, not only as to the courage but the landowners had established a Royal Society of Agriculture,
" Captain Walker came en board. [Here fellows an Now, sir, it will be said why 'was this subject of Acre in- P duct When the fleet was before Acre I
rove of my con .
' serves me• my impression was, and is, that you were anxious abilities of the gallant admiral, he had neelected'his duty. upon which they mainly relied for the results which this vote COAL MARBET.-ArraL 4.
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duced into a debate with r %Terence to the Baltic fleet. went on board Sir R. Stopford's ship • Capt. Boxer and , . was intended to achieve. Prices of Coal per ton at the close et the market.
account of his attack on Saida, iu which Captain Walker, tro to advance into the iisterior at the head of the army, and con- Mr. MA UNS having given hie best attention t 3 the ,
' d th A t 'an archduke took a In the first place lam bound a e say that till a recent period others were there also. At the time there was a coldness
Commodore Napier, an e us le duet tl 1, nd operations •
m , , and lam bound to state that, at statements on both Bides, was of opinion that the gallant nlr. WILSON protested against the vote of tho present s. d. Wallsend, atc. .
C ti • W. lker to see Sir Robert -till tide dispute arose beta •een the gallant officer and between Sir R. Stopford and myself, originating in my con-
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part.] I weut with ap un 4 .. . .
t' tl • . la• t d ht h d' I t d t the commencement, we were all greatly indebted to. You, as admiral had proved that there was not a shadow of founda- year being disallowed, and urged as a reason that the este- Byass's West Hartley .. 17 -6 .
• Stopford Leaving Sir Robert I accompanied myself, I partook of the genera/ impression that not only ?:tit y lupin intehi: lo w a e nno eem proper o
the success on shore was owing to your great exertions. tion for the charges made egainst hini on the subject, and blishment, at present in full working order, would be de- Tatifield Moor l4 0 Haswell 18 0
etters Sir R. Stopford stron,,ly ad-
Captain Walker to see Izzel Pacha. We found him suffer. the success of the land operatit nes, which I have admitted b. one. ri one o . .
' - With reference to that part of your letter in which you state had showed the impropriety of the conduct of tho„ who stroyed by it. Tanfield Moor Butes 14 0 tletton l7 !
iug extremely, and after communicating to him the events was due to the gallant officer, Ana that the success of the vised me to return as soon as possible after arming the po-
that Sir Robert informed you that he intended to remove his had introduced this subject to the attention of the house - Mr. STRAFFORD said that as an Irish landowner he had West Felton l4 6 Pensher 15 '
It. but Sidon I hold i ' h d • t t
which had taken place to the southward, Captain Walker naval operations was mainly du ato the activity, exertions, pu a iou a o . nmy an an impor an
force from the coast before the bad weather set in, I can onlY II th elle th d •t Ith n't F. •t L d f h .
a one e con us, o eae Hs or ot e Ad- watched this agricultural training school for many years past, . South Hetton ' - l7 I
declared it to be his opinion that au attack on Acre would be counsel, and conduct of the hem s. and gallant member fur Paper which showed how unfit Sir R. Stopford was for the
communica on o ,ou which
sa th the made the same • ti t me miralty was most blameable in thie respect-that, after and could not see that it had been of any use. It was a class Wallsend, nm Cassop 1 a 3
successful." . cow maud he held The hon. and allant member read the Y. a
Southwark. 'That was my st rong impression. I hed • n .. .
ocaasion as ec im o . . .
I klh t l- tl h cl. 'b' • • • • 1 l t fth 1 • • d d Rdd 11
supp ,us wi 1 anc ors an Ca ,es, appointing the gallant autnual to the commend of the egis a ion-o e agrieu
• tunsts against all other tra es-an i e 15 6,Kelloe 17 0
document which a eared to be an order to him to send the
' Ottoman ship of war Mookacldimay-i-hire, certainly reason for believing so irone the hon. and gallent . PP , . . which he consented to do, for I felt that we could not &haus Baltic fleet, and haviug prided himself upon the •
appoint- class legislation ou the part of Ireland against England. He Wharncliffe l6 (Test Keno° li °4,
at sea, Oct. 27, 1840. member's own account of the 'war in Syria. In vol. 1, marines on board the ships, aud also to embark the Turkisn
don the mountaineers who had joined the Sultan's cause, and ineut, he should, now that a difference had taken place be- was particularly connected as a landowner with Limerick, and Braddyll l6 9,Derwentwater Hartley .17 '
" Sir,-I have the honour to forward for your ex3elleney's Ip. 17, of than work the hone and gallant officer, on troop if he thought, they could not defend themselves. I
had been armed. You were strongly opposed to the ships tween them, have gone back sixteen k h why should he not put in a voice for a vote in favour of ship-
years, ra ed up y- Ships at market,- 39 I Sold
information a statement made by two men who were sent off the 25th of October, Sidon having been taken on the 29th, was then directed to leave the whole of the inhabitan .
ts of
beine tewed into action at Acre ny the four steamers, and I t • •t; 1 cl . d h th sill
gone ransac tons, ant en eavoure to sow as e e man * •
buildine 2 He th ught th tth e•-• lt • t f I la d
o a e aolieu uris s o re n
- the Lebanon to their fate. The house might easily believe . n
to this ship by Captain Boxer, of her Britannic Majesty's ship states : think you were right, for only four could go in at the same whom lie had himself entrusted with the Baltic fleet had should be left to themselves, a course by which they would - • -
" 13eyrout, Oct. 25, 1840. that I opposed that to the utmost of my power. On arriving 4.
Pique, on the evening of the 26th iust ,at the moment of our me, an ose, o couise, would have had to bear the brunt
dth f • behaved in a manner deserving of the severe t greatly benefit. Ho found, indeed, that it bad come to this,
at Acre the officers all assembled on board Sir R. Stoeford's ' s censure at
departure from St. Jean d'Acre, by which you will perceiYe "I am pressing the admiral to eland me to take Tripoli ; . . - of the action before the others could have got in; but not the takin of Acre • f Ith h r that he as a protectionist was preachieg free-trade to free- COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-YESTERDAY.
"C. NAPIER. ship. Capt. Boxer had the ear of the admiral, and a great . g , or, 1 e c urges o. the hon. baronet
that much discontent reigns in the garrison of that town, and this will finish all Lebanon. d d • • (1 I
having anchore where the a miral wishe , you ought, were subAantiated the anioaute traders. (Hear, and laughter.) A m5terdam............ 12 i Gibraltar ......•• •• •• •• - ,
deal of jealousy existed among, the officers. The ad miral , y ato an imputation of
how ready the Syrians are to assist the cause of his Imperial "To the Emir." think, to have made the si •
gnal fa• the ships astern to p .ss Mr. BARNES considered it his duty to oppose this vote on Ditto, three months .. 12 2% ' Leghorn ...• • ..... .... 37 ')
cowardice. No man's reputation was safe if it was to be
Majesty the Sultan. Tripoli was evacuated by the Itgyptian forces, and tho turd ine he had talked the business over with Capt. Boxer;
that he would shift his flag to a steamer ; that the three •
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ve me yours very ai uy, liable to attacks made under such circumstances and at such the ground of its obvious injustice. Rotterdam ............ 12 23;,, Genoa ...... .. ••..•• -. 2-5 "
"I have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient humble magazine in the castle was blown up. "B. W. WALKER. Lord I'ALMERSTON said that if the right hon. gentleman Antwerp .............. 25 6734 ?luau - -
servant, "B. W. WALKER. " Seeing no further prospect of active operations, I turned otSer steamers would tow three ships ; and, after placing „
Vice-Admiral Sir C. Napier, K.C.B &c
~ . a distance of tiu3e. The course which had been taksn was Brussels ....•......... 25 6734 Venice.............. -
ray atteution, in common with mW brother officers, to the them against the batteries, would return and tow in three 4, I
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so
.r one calculated to inflict serious injury upon the publi- ser- the member for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli) h.d relied li =burgh ............ 13 11% Naples .... ... 43%
' "To his Excellency Admiral the Hon. my 1y to hear that you have been so unwell. '''• more upon his memory than upon the force of his imagine- Alton& .. •• ............ - ; Palermo ..•.• - •••••.... lei%
more. Such a scheme appeared ao inconsistent with the vice, and he hoped that these ane '"
ery cuscussiocs might . •
Sir R. Stopford, G.C.8., &c." immediate attack on Acre, which 1 had thoroughly recon-
safety of the fleet, and so unlikely to be successfulnthat I "B. W. W." cease, and that the three gentlemen who were now at va- ton, he might have remembered that he was answerable te a Pari5.................... 25 4214 Messina ... 131%,
" The Druses armed at Sidon about two days ago, have noitered, and felt satisfied that the ships in every short time Now, is it to be said that because I counselled a particular very considerable extent for these votes. Perhaps, however, Ditto, three months .. 25 77% Lisbon. .......... •• • •• 83*
oiutel out the objections to it. Ca t. Boxer replied, " We liance would sheke hands and forget their past differen
cut off the supply of water conveyed to Acre by the aque- would drive the Egyptians from the guns, if there was a. pos- P line of action before the decision to attack Acre had been his memory did not serve him when he broke his lance Marseilles ••• -•••••• •• 28 7714 Oporto .........„ ...... --
nave se'lled the whole uestionwithPAdwiral Stopford, an I, Mr. ROEBUCK was ined t th• le th tth h 1 eel.
pa o in a ere sou d have . Rourdeaux -........- Rio Janeiro
duet. The fortress of St. Jean d'Acre contains 5,000 troops, ' sihility of approaching within a mode rate distance of the walls. arrived at, that when that decision had been pronounced I against his own shield. He (the noble lord) could not admit
od •t is f 4 f ' t •nt dere " I runri-
" The subject was frequently raised: on board the Princess 00ram ore, i ono use yr you oi e . . been any difference between two persons who were so well Frankfort-on Maine •• ••
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but the greater part of them are sick and about 25 desert s. hesitated for a moment to act upon it ? (Hear, hear.) The . the doctrine the right hon. gentlemau had laid down, that
' Cherlotte, and discussed; but whether the comtnander-iu- nated on the ma.tter that night, and went on board Sir en th of the consideration of the h
woi . y . ouse. When he found •••••
Berlin ........... •-' I New York,6o days' sight •••••
and die daily." The deserters from St. Jean d'Acre declare • is, was en as muc Inc met oma e e a ac as
fact • I th h • 1. I t k th tt k th ff •t fth G
eeoi 8 o a overnment for educational purposes should Vienna................
opferd's ship an tha mornin and said that I connived the right hon. baronet coming forward with his practised abi- 10 28 !Philadelphia -
th t • t b el' ff t d d that a cannonading of the • chief was restricted by orders from home, or was afraid of St g, .
be limited te religion and morality, which would entirely Trie5te................ 10 29 I PRIcEs or BULLION, PIN OZ.
e loops o e isa ec e ,an any one could be. There is another accusation brought lity to make charees a.gainst the galleut admir 1 h f
a , e elt that ,
the let eness of the season, lam not aware, but certainly much it ta be my duty, aa his second in cominand, to tell him
fortress would be a signal for them to desert to us." aeainst me-and H k Hs t di b • ' -
eaven nows a was nee ess, ecause the gallant admiral would be at a loss. But he must confess lud neour .• tb• .• • t h • Petersburg ............ 36% ! Foreign Gold in Bars £3 17 9
piec e e aeemen eine given o persons w o weie
valuable time was lost. that if three steamers were sent to tow three ships agaiust e Madrid .........., .... 49% I Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0
Now, this is important to observe, that the attack on Acre h fortifications as those of Acre they would fail. I ask the charges preferred against me are sufficiently numerous that when the gallant admiral sat desirous of maintainine themselves respectably in the
dowu lie felt that the a - • 0
Cadiz .............., .. 50% 1 Mexican Dollars .... 0 0
" On m '
y arrival at Beyrout, to nay great astonishment, I sue
1 d he effect that I was not at Acre when it was . • . • t h 1 ourse of their future lives He had alwa s understood
was made on the 4th Nov., and that the letter is dated ou too look at the Roden, and say whether the officer in a rea y-to t , piactised. dispu ant at been foiled. He saw the prac- c ' y Barcelona ............ - I New Dollars ...... 00 0
found a steamer hed arri d f E I d •th •d t Y
ve rom . rig an wa ca ers o evacuated. It is true I was not there at the time, because that wbaa, was meant by education iii its highest form was geviii, .. .. ..
..
.. ....... . I
the 27th Oct. The decision t , attack Acre was taken by nd h d t b bl d f tt le. 'th • tisea rhetorician had been at fault, and that the plain ) Silver in bars ...... 00 0 •
attack Acre. Thi's was indeed a chanee for the better, there comma a no een ame or aac ing wi an in- .
Admiral Stopford and Sir C. Smith on the 29th Oct. Let it was my duty to be at the north-east angle, and I knew and unvarnished, and unpractised statement of the gallant to enable people to go through their career in life, under
wasno further room for indecision " ' ferior force. What would have been the use of leaving six
the house be good enough to remember these dates. On • • h or seven sail idle, and attempting to do the work with nothing whatever about the evacuation until Sir B. admiral had completely triumphed. The hon. baronet had any circumstauces in which they might he placed, with ere-
the alst Oct. Sir Baldwin Walker writes to the Turkish This statement operated on the public anind, and I, wit
three shi 3 with other three h• t t k th .• 1. ?To
p , 8
.ips o a • eir p axe Walker, who, from his position, had become acquainted eh ~rged the gallant admiral with want of judement aud s
0 , ome- dit to themselves and usefulness to the community ; and it
admiral : - the majority of persons *partook of the impression that the
prove that I must have been right, Sir R. gtopford at last . t
with the fact had taken possession of the town. Besides tl • nk at of •ou •ae th • '
ling 1e w n c lee ou e put ot the gallant admiral certainly was to him a new doctrine that it was a waste of SEABORNE MAILS.
' o mations was mainl due to the
real credit of the naval p y . K th• tth 1I h b t
Ido not thin a ere wou c ave een any very grea the public money to instruct people in industrial occupations.
" Ottoman ship of War, Mookaddimay-nhire, adopted my plan, and gave up the attack by vessels towell at Acre. Now, he would put it to the house whether those --.es.---
Beyrout, Oct. 31, 1640. hon. and gallant member. I quoted o:n a former evening
in b h C
yt e steamers. apt. Henderson was then on board ; merit in beinse the first to take podsession of a place which eh-11.0,es did not amount to this, that the (near.)
gallant admiral did It had been said, if you teach people agriculture,
hat I thou ht had a bearine on the sale ction of the gallant had alr d b
surrendered. I shall now roceed to inform nt
why not teach them cotton-spinning ? Why, Governme .
(PT signllles that the mails are sent from the General Post ott°
"My Lord,-In consequence of my representing to Admi- w g . . but he and many others to whom I might have appealed ea y P not like the position assigned to him at Acre-that he took th i ht- dM b th •
y e morning-despatch.)
ll' h tth 1 t
, officer for the command of the Balite .eet-t a e as the house what took place between Admiral Stopford and '' did teach them cotton-spinning. Government established .' en g an
ral the Hon. Sir Robert Stopforcl the good effect likely to are now no more, and lam left to defend myself with the mea t t f • d • •
us o get ou o it, an that in doing so he threw the _en.
1 operation against stone walls was by ships at Acre, anti I ` myself after the capture of Acre had been effected. Sub- schools of design to assist the manufactures of the country,
arise from the appearance of her Majesty's flag off et. Jean little evidence I have been able to procure without the fleet into confusion. Now he thought that the °anent admi-
i repeated the passage from that very work. After giving sequently to that event I went on board the steamer in and why not, upon the same principle, establish schools of Day ven en ma ic ur from wha Pi"'
d'Acre, I have the honour to inform your highness that I left benefit of those official resources which the 'hon. and gal- ral had shown that he was prevented from takine up the posi- 0017NTRIEV. in General Post: Port du, ll-
an account of the attack on Acre, tho hon. and ga.llant which Admiral Stopford had hoisted hie fleg, and so per- agriculture for the people of Ireland? not for the purpose
this anchorage for that town on the 21th inst., and arrived lant admiral has. I told Capt. Henderson to inform Sir R. non assigned to him iu consequence of the state of the wind. Wilco, London.* Dispateheo En, 111`" '
member states :- fectly conscious was I that I had done my duty, and had of making fortunes or accumulatine, but to enable them to
on the evening of that day. Stopford of the fact, that towing in ships and returning for i , , . . Not beiu bl t tak h '
ga e o eupt at pos tiou, he went on, passed a 1- th • • -
"On the ensiling morning I pulled iu with a flag,• of truce " I had frequently beeu engaged with batteries last war, and others would take the steamers two hems. At that time p,acett my seip in the proper place, that lat once observed battery not strong euough to engage him, and cast anchor op- pt
t ' th • th ' •
eeep eir wives and families, and o sus am em in eil Atnerica(byßrit.pack)N Every Friday •• Liverpool April 0 ,
to him that I hoped he was satisfied with the position I struggle through life. (Hear, hear.) Supposing it were ad- emerice(by United Ste
for the purpose of delivering the enclosed summons. This, I believe I was the only officer in the squadron who had com- to w i rig was rot so quickly done as it now is. After it was posite another and stronger one. The real fault lay with the .
however, was not received, nor the boat permitted to laud. i mandeda ship In action against stone walls, and the system I deciled that towing should not take place, it became a had taken up. He answered gruffly, " No, I was not, you gallant admiral the member for Gloucester, who did not take 'flitted as a eeneral rinci I • • a
0 P p e that it w s not expedient to de- packet) ..........N •••• •- Ltvcepooi
lit to have gone to the south-west ' I felt m self so • • . . vote public money to purposes of this kind, Ireland would america (by U. Statis .
his ship ahead of the gallant adtuiral the member for South
" On the followiug day I stood in with this ship and fired i followed was the one I always had been accustomed to ; it was
qaestion how the ships were to go in, The wind at the °ug .
b h• I f h I • l'ht h tlYf I certa. I b packet) .......... N •• •, • • South= : :ton
at the fortres es ; and although I appeared near enough for ; the ple
„followed by the leadiug ship at the battle of the time was froiu the eouthward. The squadron was ordered isiog.s r •
.! ._. : vse
El i
i,
it:
orteeunan2t. . ree;Tci,,r... !,
esNz. 3-4;gnt wark, laiiit cast aat!Vr too soli. b These were miserable things inwybi
.hei Ren e-xcelption. Nbot to go
tinbto
t.thoy. disclulssionts kustraiia (via South- . , ,
with;
the guns to have done me considerable injury, I was much 1 Nile, o• to eet tinder weieh, which they did in a helter-skelter sort '. Et 'a' hi ,beie th t n ki • for the ouse o emulous o e occupied with, and he put c vel y ion. mem er mus e anal las , a mus ampton) .......... an a••• •• •• • • Southampton
a court-martial to investigate my conduct, but to that re it to the right i ou. baronet that it would be bettei know the unfortunate conditiou in which Ireland had for ages Ditto (via Marseilles) Ni
suiprised at their not returning our fire. This pacific dispo• s I have said that the whole question is a =atter of evi- of a wanner. Ido not cast any reflection on the officers, fur • to let
quest ho refused to accede, at the same time apologising for these contreversies cease He certe• I nest been placed. Everybody kuew how Ireland had been Ditto(via Cape of Geed,
in y admitted that he had ;. • • • - - He) NI ... Uncertafo
sition on the part of the enemy, an t the information 1 eli- deuce, and that I would abstain from any• adverse corn- the helterskelter was caused by the desire to get into sc-
the ex • h• h h le I d • d Th• t ' - . • ' '
preßsion wic e at use in my roger . a himself expected more from the elm a.• • nismanaeed- ironical cheers)-when they reflected that Ire- oP -..•••• •• ••
p ign in the Baltic, but Africa (West Coast) „N 23d of the month - Plymouth ..
. tained from itwo natives whe catne off to this shiP from ment. I hope the house, having heard the evidence, will tion. The weather fortunately became calm. No plan or apology I aia not think was couched in terms which - ' laucl `"
( because in
Kaiffre, confirmed me iu my previous opinion that much dis- acquit me of the grave charge preferred against me that I system. had been laid down. I remember Capt. Fanshawe
ought t • d t t• t dth
oin uce me o accep 1, an e consequence was he attributed this to his own ignoraune. He was quite ready f was a country comparatively poo.r-poor 4,, exandria.......... NB, 9, U.& 80 of m.lDever •••• t
content prevails in the garrison of that town. . aunt the gallant member for Gloucester, who was an eye- urging us to get on as fast as possible. My reply was,
I f 1 t 1 k A t. f t C t • St t
re usec 000 upon , as sa is ac ory. ap am ewer •
to admit that a man who had passed a long life in the service mproper system of
ormer ages it had been subjected to an 1 . Alexandria_
~......14 4th Pc 20th of mon.!Southampton!
" These particulars I fully communicated to the English witness of the transactions, have trumped up some story " Acre ought either to be attacked properly, or not at all. of his country was more likely to know what it was possible Government - the victim of sectarian oppression and class Bahamas ...........Ml7th of tbe meat' seuthaaepute!
and some other ca tains afterwards came to bee and en- legislation-when they reflected that Ireland was suffering Belgium ~..........N Dai1y.........,,, Dover ...... Dena ,
admiral, and I have now the great satisfaction to inform your with refereuce to Acre not only without truth, but with- It is not a place tone trifled with, and ought to beattacked
treat that I a P ' " •
ould not, by misting upon having a court-
. to effect than was he (Mr. Roebuck),
Brazil ........ „ ~.„31 9th of the month.. Southam ton Api II •T
from these calamities, the result of English misgovernment,
highness that a force, consisting of eight ships cf the line, 1 out the ehadow of truth. 3,luch more do I lope that tbe in tha way I proposed." The wiud then changed to the Mr. COWPER conteuded that Sir C. Napier had been Buenos Ayres ... „ „m'9th of the mouth.. Sout P i°
hamston April
martial, be the cell f • d• • • the fleet 1
le o sermus issension in . he thought it was fairly entitled to be an exception. (Hear,
' five frigates, and four steamers, the whole having on board i house will not agree with the hon. and gallant member for northwerd. It was appointed for me to anchor on the , - ' • sent throuehout the assailaut in these controversies ; that it was Cape of Good Uo•pe ..N Vali . era'
oas port itima
tnat i would be satisfied with the a 010 which Admiral ' But what was the infliction-what was the calamity
3,500 Turkish troOps, will leave Beyrout this day for St. SOuthwark, that we have failed in our veracity from a south-west angle of Acre. Capt. Faushawe was to pass aud .., P gy he who had sot the example of attacking Sir J. Graham and hear') Cape of Good Elope ..N
' Jean d'Acre. mdtive so base and malignaut as the desire to injure him. anchor aliead of me: Ido not know what orders were given t..opford was prepared to make. My reply was, that I Admiral 'l3 1- 1 • I •
er ee ey , an that they were amply justified in nettled pressed upon Ireland during the last few years ? Cape de Vords .....,N 9th of the month southemptool
"We continw to receive 'daily deserters from the enemy, I thank the house for the patience with whieh they have to the other officers. Therule in anchoring in suceessiouwas would accept no other than an apology which I considered defending themselves in the manner they had done. Th It was famine-deficiency of food iu consequence of the in- Ceylon (see India) •
and the Crescent steamer, having on board 450 deserters and listened to my explanation. ' for one chip to drop anchor, aud for the nest ship astern to proper under all the circumstances of the cese. Admiral 'reliant adiniral the mensber for Southwark neither satisfiede efficient manner in which the cultivators of little acres had Ceylon ..............N
gat
Sto ford did afterwards make that a 010 and it was to ' been able to dischare • the' dla While then the minds of Channel 151e5........N.M0n -,Wedegtyrit,Southamptoii 'Tu.Th•-
prisoners, will leave this eveniug for Constantinople, Sir C. NAPIER-I suppee, sir, this is the first time pass sutside and anchor ahead. When the wind chaneed P . P gY, the expectations of the AdmiraitY who seut him out nor of „.., ll' 11.10 S. , , ...
chili.. ...Iv 2,1 Pc 17th of moiiiiilSouth pto 1
" the follcwieg effect :- hon. gentlemen were affected by the evils of that state of things China -.; •.:• •• •• •
" I have the honour to be, rte.,
that an officer who had served his country for sixty years to the northward it was necessary to decide immediately as
~ , the country, nor of his own officers ; and yet no public cen- . Once a month -.I 'April 4
"P. W. WALKER. to what was to be done. I immediately decided not to at- .Myde ir Sir,-I do not apprehend that a differeece of sure was cast upon the gallant admiral, he was thanked -when they were calle I upon te devote a small portion of the Constantinople ~,,,
~ a ,8,13,18,23,neeei eeDover ......
with reputation was placed in a situation liko that I tun at , opinion implies a censtu•e upon either party, as I cannot allow on hauling- down his flags, a.nd it was entire] revenue to prevent a recurrence of that cala.mity, was it to be censtantinople ........Sith & 20th of mon.' Southatipton
" To his Highness the Capudan Pacha, dic." h h b
tempt to ge southward and anchor on t e nort -west, e• y due to his • edellf
Now, sir, I say that the documents I have res.& afford, if present in. (Hear.) Most of the people concerned in the cause the chip could not well have got to her anchoring infallibility to anybody. That I differed in opinion with you oen indiscretion that these painful discussious had arise '
said that it should he refu- d • • w • mi a lication cent of Eure-c &. N.Twicodail
ae because it as a spp . • M .. 1 y•••• • • Dover ...... Twie ,
is true but that thereby a censure was intended is without n• of the grant l (Hear ) It mieht be true that this system like Eupt (see India) I
(Hear, hear ) He thought that his right honourable a ' • ' ' * - ' France m& N Twice daily-- D Walt
not conclusive, the strongest presumptive evidence that business referred to are dead, a, great many of them are station between the soutb. and north-west angle of Acre. ,
sk und • • • - .. .
atiow-Believe me dear sit yowls truly many others which were inherently good, had been carried .. . Tw
over .. ,
. sent to rue to know what I was doing. I re- •
~ e . . , , ,
.. _ , friend the member for Carlisle was amply justified in the
* the decision of the general and the admiral commanding absent, and I have not the same means of referring to docu- The admiral Gibralta•r• ..... •••
• 4 7 17 90
...„ ,i. „ , . ,27 •fm Southampton'
the expedition relative to the attack on Acre emanated
ments as hon entleman connected. with the Admiralty Pprted I was going northward. I desired the master to Comraodoie Napier, C.B. ' • • ROBERT STOPFORD. course he had that night taken by the line aclopted by the too far by those who had established them. It was possible Greece (see In•i•iiii) 1
th t th•
from Sir Balavein Walker. But it may be end this is ouly • g , e . pass a small battery of four gulls, and anchor me alongside (Cheers.) Now why, after all I have steted to the house, gallant admiral the member for Southwark, and by the a is system of training schools might have been earided tereytewe „
....„
..m 2nd & 17th of Man.iSouth,mptee
t've evidence that the naval attack did. mot proceed have. But I think I have papers enough in my poss ssion of the strongest part of the walls of Acre, and not against are accusations brought aganast me such as those which charges whielt he had chosen to cast upon him atd beyond the necessities of the case, or even that their belief'. Ilamburgh ....„ _„N Tuesday & Frilay,Loadon .....
uega i au le gal- •1 .
from the counsel of the hon. and gallant admiral. I will to prove that the charges brought against me are inlnolly the weakest part, as stated by the right hon. beronet. the right hen. baronet the member for Carlisle has pre- lant admiral the member. for G oucestser, - ma. fesults rendered their continuance no longer necessary. flavannah ..........1M 2nd ef the munthlSouthanapto, May I.
Daily
read some direct testimony-that of Sir Baldwin Walker without foundation. I believe the house is aware that, Along the curtain I believe there was a battery of 40 guns formed. Admiral Stopford might have been wrong. I say Admiral WALCOTT referred to the reply of the hon. bare- These allegations might be admitted, for it was never sup- ITeleli!!_le• .- •• •••• -•1•1
m 17ta tithe mon't;;lrver -••
• " 'Dal- °
himself. In order to state the matter correctly I will read
when it was decided to send a force t S .' t I ' t
o yi la 0 ( rive ou After I let go my anchor the whole order was reversed. If that his plan of towing up the ships was wrong; and the net the member for , arlisle, aud the gallant admiral the mem- P°B6ll that these institutions were to be permanent. Every L'-'"!"`"-a," •• e• •• •• ••
ladle (viaSouttiampt.)M 4th '2O 1 • ansp•e:. 16thotes
1 outh .
_,,
x t 1 of mon.Tlymnuth •. 4t030 J.
' seriatim each question with its answer :- the mode of anchoring as adopted by Sir S. Hood and question is one which I should confidently leave it to any ber for Gloucester, to eir C. Napier's speech on a former one knew that they were merely of a temporary character, to India (via Afarseilles)sl 9th& 25th of mon tin Dover .... ~ I -
"1. Q.- The attack on Acre by tho fleet was not advised 000 men had been sent b the Turks to
the Egyptians, 5, y
Sir J. Seumarez was good against ships, it was equally committee of naval officers to decide. Why, I would also evening, and censured their dangerous tone. The hon. baro- cease whee they had accomplished the purposes for which lonian Isles (see India) 7, 17, 3,-, 27 of inon,Dover......
by Sir Charles Napier, but was undertaken in opposition to aseist in arming the population. Sir C. Smith was sent to good against stone walls and batteries. I never was more ask, if the right hon. gentleman the Naval First Lord of net then referred to certain letters iu which the gallant Ansi- they were established. He w.s quite ready to admit that Ireland ........ hi & N Twice daily ......illoljhesd , „ Twicedsie
his advice and opinion, expressly given to Sir Robt. Stopford. command these troops, but on his arrival his health be- astonished than when I imw the Princess Charlotte let go tho Admiralty deemed that my conduct at Acre was open ral had expressed an opinion that officers abo.e 60 years of this might be a fit subject for revision in future years, but U5hen.............. MI, 9, 17, &27 of m.,f3euthampton April 6
Madeira ............m,9th of the mouth Southampto.s,
" A.-I cannot call to mind that I ever heard Sir Charles came so bad that he found himself totally unfit for opera her anchor astern of me, and the Thunderer and Beller°. to censure, did he. advise his colleagues to scud me out in age were not fitted for high command. Now '
, not only was •
he could not be a consenting party to a ie
• duction of the vote yadei„
............N 23d of month .... 'Liverpool ...I
Napier express any opinion on the subject.; but Sir R. Stop. .. phon do the same. There was no time for me to make a command of the Baltic fleet-a fleet of vast magnitude, the case Which the hon. baronet had made of these I in the present year.
,•
teens. Sir R. StoPfurd wrote to me offerine me the cont. etters in- malta (see India) I
ford, on several occasions when the question of attacking ' signal, for the shins would have been at anchor befoie the and destined for a dangerous and an arduous service ? consistent with the fact that the hole baronet, know' gI • Idr. DISRAELI said the noble lord had been extremely Malta ...... .. e, NJB, 19, &28 of mon. Dever - ..„ '4, 20 ino'
Acre was discussed, informedme that Sir Charles was opposed mend, saying that'll° knew of no other person to conduct
signal could have been hoisted. It was the duty ee the cone. Yet the right hon. gentleman did recommend hie colleagues age, had appointed him to the command of the B Iteinfl uts humorous in reference to his forgetfulness of memory ; but Mauritius (see India)
to it. My own impression always was that Sir C. Napier *as the operations. I landed with these 5,000 men. We had mender-in-chief, who was outside ia a Steamer, to make to give sue the command of that fleet. Nay, more, he was but it was also inconsistent with the praise whiteLliche iiiicad if the house Would deign to remember such circumstances, it •maurttillB ..........N :12T, ytthhee nozh i I •
Bo thampt.n'April I
anxious to advance into the interior at the head of the army, on our right 15,000 uf the enemy at Beyrout, 10,00,) in the signal. I believe he made a signal for the Thunderer to himself anxious to go out as my second in command. I hinaself given to the gallant admiral in that house, and with would remember that when he assumed the responsible post It.fflitri, *"*.'"*******-'solsth2sthmofmon..iDeßir : •
and conduct the laud operations. our front, and 3,000 on our left. Sir R. Stopford wrote that get uuder weigh. Nelson's maxim was, .• No ship ca,n do have it in Lis own writing. (Hear.) Is it not somewhat the offer which the gallant admiral the member for Gloucester of Chancellor of the Exchequer, it was an arrangement that New Granada ~....M 21. & 17th of montallSouth par,'
- •• 2.Q.-SirCeNapier before the attack remonstrated against • wrong in anchoring herself alongside the enemy." I hard, then, sir, that an officer who has had testimony such had made to serve as second in command to sir c. Napier. the Government of which he was a member should accept and New Zealand ...........BY Private 81 IP - 'Various per, Uneattgs
, if I found a large force coming down upon me I was to
taking up the position assigned to the Powerful by the ace auchoret • t -
I alongside the stronges per. of the wall, and not as I have adduced borne to his professional character should He believed that the Baltic fleet of 1854 was not furnished move the estimates of their predecessors. He was somewhat E.%pal States
........N stlilsth2sthofinon.Dover ...• ..:
come away. Notwithstanding the large force opposed to 'lthl7the
surprised at the tone of the noble lord iu reference to this Peninsula ........ „et 7thormonaeotitharripton
mired ? half way, as the right hon. barn insinuated. I took up my he so foully aspersed ? (Hear.) But in addition to the with appliances adequate to meet the ex • •
pectations which the env
.... _
.........m 2,1 fiz 27th of mon *outhani .
4, A.._./ was preSent when sir R. Stopf,rd pointed out to ' us, we made a strong fortified camP for the Protection of position to the north, which was the proper positiun to documents which I have read to the house, I have a letter country had formed of their exploits Hth ht th tth vote. The noble lord had complained that Ireland had been rut
P tN t 1 lly ri t hi ..'
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- . c oug a eyer a a ..........N 1, va e s p...nrarious port, Uneertid°
Sir C. Napier the position which the Powerful was to take the people of the country. At venous times reports were occupy, while the other divisions of the fleet went to the from Sir Alexander Cochrane, complimenting me upon the did as much as the country had a right to expeet from them. the victim of sectarian differences for years past, and that s:elly
~........ .... Njsthlbth2stho‘mon, .pever . '
up off the south-west angle os the fortress ee Acre, and the current that the enemy was approaching, and I tun not southward, and Capt. Beldwin Walkcr anchored his vessel services which I rendered at Martinique. When I was At the same time he thought that Sir C. Napier had brou ht therefore it became necessary to establise model farms. That •••••
DlSCany ............ /cstlllsth2sthofnion.Dover ..... ~'
reply made by sir c. Napier was, that if he anchored in that surprised that Sir R. Stopford felt extremely alarmed, outside of the rest. I have entered into these details in °icier engaged in the Portuguese service, too, and where, I may much that had ta'ken place upon himself byhis conduct at fh i ominded him (air. Disraeli) of the earlier days of his Parlia- -,-eneseeit „„ „ „ „mi2dlt 17th ofraonthlSouthisroptot•r 1&16 0"
positiou his ship would be sunk.. aud issued contradictory orders. After remaining SOW e to vindicate my character, which has been so unjustly as- say, it, was of vast imPortance to settle the question between Reform Club (Helfer, which arouse - ' c mentary experience, when he constantly heard ef the miseries yan Diemen's Lead (see; I I
d expectations that could enstralia •
"3. Q.-In making the attack Sir C. Napier did not take time I set to work and explored the whole country, and persed by the right hon. gentleman the late First Lord of Don Miguel and Donna Maria by a single coup, I, with not be rea, tied. However, Sir C. Napier returned from the of Ireland. He believed now that Ireland was a country
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up the position in question according to his orders, but let go soon because aware that it vrould be impossible to retain the Admiralty ; and perhaps the house would permit nee, three' ft igates, ran on bow il arid took a considerable fleet in Baltic, but was not ag,ain sent out, in whieh he (Admiral Wal- upon which they might look with delight and envy, but the 7.7_ ...-'
his anchor short cn it in a less exposed position, and thereby ,5, 00J men there during the winter, and that the nahabi- for the seine purpose, to read a letter which I hold in nay about ten minutes. (Hear, hear.) I have letters from the cott) thought the Adina•alty did right, because the 11
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threw the whole preyious arrang,ement iuto confusion ? tants would nut come clown unless in the presence of a hand, bees nig date the ed of April, arid which was written right hon. gentleman the Naval First Lord cf tho Admiralty iniral's mauner of addressing the Admiralty was not :u has 't bate. At all events the noble lord had had a half•centnry of switched on the foil
" A.. -The position pointed out by Sir R. Stopford was not stronger force. The first step was to get possession of Bey- by Capt. Hestings, a well-known and Oistioguished naval giving me the highest praise, and stating that he would ought to be. The hon. and gallant admiral (Walcotet) then ,
1 official responsibility iu connection with Ireland. As the Southampton), and tging day. with the exception of the Ind!? Cr',
Malta, both of whieh will be dessatoh,:d 0
taken
.tip by Sir C. Napier. He anchored before he reached rout, but that step Sir R. Stopford always avoided. No officer. It is ay fellows :- stick to me to the last, and yet the right hon. gentleman censured the conduct of Sir C. Napier since his return. and for :
mine lord had abandoned the principle upon which he started preceding day.
..--.- . . - - •

I have sail that the whole question is a =natter of evi
deuce, and that I would abstain from any adverse com•
ment. I hope the house, having heard the evidence will
acquit me of the grave charge preferred against me that .I
and the gallant member for Gloucester, who was an eye-
witness of the transactions, have trumped up some story-
with reference to Acre not only without truth, but with-
out the shadow of truth. Much more do I hope that the
house will not, agree with the hon. anti gallant member for
Southwark, that we have failed in our veracity from a
mdtive so base and malignant as the desire to injure him.
I thank the house for the patience with which they have
listened to my explanation.
Sir C. NAPIER—I suppose, sir, this is the first time
that an officer who had served his country for sixty years
with reputation was placed in a situation like that I am at
present in. (Hear.) Most of the people concerned in the
business referred to are dead, a great many of them are
absent, and I have not the same means of referring to docu-
ments as hon. gentleman connected with the Admiralty
have. But I think I have papers enough in my possession
to prove that the charges brought against me are wholly
without foundation. I believe the house is awarelhat,
when it was decided to send a force to Syria to drive out
the Egyptians, 5,000 men had been sent by the Turks to
assist in arming the population. Sir C. Smith was sent to
command these troops, but on his arrival his health be-
came so bad that be found himself totally unfit for opera_
tions. Sir R. StoPfurd wrote to me offering me the come
wand, saying that*he knew of no other person to conduct
the operations. I landed with these 5,000 men. We had
on our right 15,000 of the enemy at Beyrout, 10,000 in
our front, and 3,000 on our left. Sir R. Stopford wrote that
if I found a large force coming down upon me I was to
come away. Notwithstanding the large force opposed to
us, we made a strong fortified camp fur the protection of
the people of the country. At various times reports were
current that the enemy was approaching, and I am not
surprised that Sir R. Stopford felt extremely alarmed,
and issued contradictory orders. After remaining some
time I set to work and explored the whole country, and
soon became aware that it would be impossible to retain
O,OOJ men there during the winter, and that the inhabi-
tants would nut come clown unless in the presence of a
stronger force. The first step was to get possession of Bey-
rout, but that step Sir R. Stopford always avoided. No
consideration could induce him to take it. I found it im-
possible to persuade him to do it. I then proposed another
plan. Suliman Pacha was sent to reconnoitre our position.
I got permission to attack him, which I did, and I beat him,
taking from 300 to 400 prisoners. The prisoners were
brought to Beyrout, but even that did not give Sir R. Stop-
ford sufficient confidence in me. In September he wrote
to inform me that Suliman Pacha intended to attack me ;
that he was anxious I should not remain longer ; and that
he recommended me to re-embark. I found it impossible
to do that, for had I done so the whole of the mouutai neer s
would have been sacrificed to the fury of Ibrahim Paella.
I therefore decided notto embark, and persuaded the Ad-
miral to allow me to remain. Shortly afterwards I pro-
posed to Sir R. Stopford to attack the strong town of
Sidon, and he consented, but not without great difficulty.
Even after I started to take a position off Sidon I receivtd
orders from Sir R. Stopterd that I was only to land arms
for the natives. I persevered, and went to Sidon ; and
with the assistance of the gallant member for Gloucester,
who commanded the Thunderer, succeeded in broad day-
light in tekin,, the place. That gave us a position in Syria
which we had never had before. But even then our posi-
tion was not securo, for we had not sufficient forces to dis-
lodge the Egyptians. We obtained permission from Sir R
Stopford to march against Beyrout to force them out of it.
We marched, and to our astonishment next morning found.
Ibrahim Pacha with an army of 3,000 or 4,000 men en-
camped in a very strong position, it being almost inaccee-
sible. It was thought necessary to try our strength with
Ibrahim, because if he succeeded in preventing the moun-
taineers coming-down the whole war would- have been at,
an end. I sent orders to Omer Pules to go round to the
rear of Ibrahim with the Emir; while I took hire in front
Things went on well. At twelve o'clook it was re-
Ported to me, by spies, that Omer Pacha wee passing
round to the left of Ibrahim, and I sent another battalion to
the right. We attacked in front and rear at the same time,
and I am happy to say we defeated Ibrahim and took 700
to 800 prisoners. We stormed his strong l oeition on the
heights, and totally destroyed the whole of his stores and
provisions. This enabled us to take possession of the Le-
banon district, and to secure its people from danger. It,
was, perhiips, something new for a naval officer to take the
command of troops on shore, but the experience I had had
in Spain and Portugal enable Imeto do so. I nal of opi-
nion at the time that if Sir R. Stopford had ordered the
marines and 2000 of the men I sent him, to follow. Ibrahim,
the war i r Syr.;a would have been ended. (Hear.) Sir R.
Stopford did not think fit todo that, but contented himself
with taking posseesion of Beyrout.., It is quite true there
were two courses—one the taking of Acre, and the other
the following no of Ibrahim. I was at first for following
up and totally deetroying the army of Ibrahim, but I was
overruled altogether. Sir C. Smith never moved for-
ward, and remained so long at Beyrout that the Govern-
ment recalled him from his command. I come to Acre.
livery officer in the fleet had been constantly pressing Sir
R. Stopford to attack Acre. After the battle I had fought
and won against Ibrahim on the 10th October, what reason
was there, except the delay of Sir R. Stopford, that Acre
was not taken till the 2.1 Nov.? We lay there totally inac-
tive. The fleet and the troops remained idle at Beyrout,
and 110 enterprise of any description was undertaken. I
went, by the orders of Sir R, Stopfortl, to deliver the fir-
man to the new Prince of Lebanon. From the heights I
noticed all the English squadron, except the Powerful,
under weigh.for Acre. Sir B. Stopford and 1 were not on
good terms at the time. I had been obliged to push him so
strongly to undertake something—so had his own captain
--that he got pettish 'with us. They learned for the first
ntiomtek beforetnhooawrt orders itrros arrived .nStopford
UPisf fromrder hoaEfd decided not to attack Acre
nbailsa squadron at col r odne. remember Thatso.
w a
s
urging Sir R. Stopford to attack Acre, and we all thought
that next morning we would be ordered to do so, but the
order was not given. The admiral went in the Powerful
and took a look at Acre, and then returned to Beyrout;
If, then, Sir R. Stopford intended to attack Acre, whyhad
he delayed till that season of the year when it was most
difficult to do so ? At last we all proceeded to attack Acre,
aad anchored there in the night. lam told I had nothing'
to do with persuading Sir R. Stopford to tilts Acre. I
have a few documents here which, I think, will show that
I had :
NAPIER TO SIR W. PARKER—Oct. 15, 1810.

" To his Highness the Capudan Pacha, &c."
Now, sir, I say that the documents I have read afford, if
not conclusive, the strongest presumptive evidence that
the decision of the general and the admiral commanding
the expedition relative to the attack on Acre emanated
from Sir Baldwin Walker. But it may be said this is only
negative evidence that the naval attack did mot proceed
from the counsel of the hon. and gallant admiral. I will
read some direct testimony—that of Sir Baldwin Welker
himself. In order to state the matter correctly I will read
' seriatim each question with its answer :
" 1. Q.-- The attack on Acre by the fleet was not advised
by Sir Charles Napier, but was undertaken in opposition to
his advice and opinion, expressly given to Sir Robt. Stopford.
" A.—l cannot call to mind that I ever heard Sir Charles
Napier express any opinion on the subject; but Sir R. Stop.
ford, on several occasions when the question of attacking
Acre was discussed, informedme that Sir Charles was opposed
to it. My own impression always was that Sir C. Napier was
anxious to advance into the interior at the head of the army,
and conduct the laud operations,
,‘ 2. Q.— SirC.Napier before the attack remonstrated against
taking up the position assigned to the Powerful by the at?.
mired ?
" A.—l was present when Sir R. Stopford pointed out to
Sir C. Napier the position which the Powerful was to take
up off the south-west angle of the fortress of Acre, and the
reply made by Sir C. Napier was, that if he anchored in that
position his ship would be sunk.
" 3. Q.—lu making the attack Sir C. Napier did not take
up the position in question according to his orders, but let go
his anchor short it in a less exposed position, and thereby
threw the whole previous arrangement into confusion ?
"A.—The position pointed out by Sir R. Stopford was not
taken up by Sir C. Napier. Ho anchored before he reached
it, which the ships of his division were net prepared for, and
which caused some confusion.
" 4. Q.—Acre was taken by a landing at a distance from
Sir C. Napier's bombardment, and by ge operation in which
he took no part ?
" A. Acre was taken possession of before three o'clock
in the morning, after the bombardment, by a force landed
from the Turkish flag-ship, at the sea gate on the south side
Sir C. Napier was not present on the occasion.
" 5. Q.—Sir R. Stopford, after the action, expresso 1 to
Sir Charles Napier his dissatisfaction with the conduct of Sir
Charles ?
" A.—Sir R. Stopford in my presence, on the quarterdeck
of the Phcenix, expressed to Sir Charles Napier that he was
not satisfied with the position taken up by the Powerful, add-
iug that he ought to hare gone to the south-west angle. This
is stated by Sir C. Napier in his work on Syria.
" I very much regret the occasion that has arisen for put-
ting the above questions, but having bees appealed to, I a
bound to state facts, so far as I :nn acquainted with them.
" I have been most anxious to be correct. I therefore
wrote to Sir Houston Stewart, who aerees with me in all
essential particulars, alai he has authorised rue to quote his
testimony in support. " B. W. WALKER."
I will next read what Capt. Codrington, who commanded
the Talbot in the attack, and who knew the various posi-
tions of the ships better than any one, and the positiens
assigned to them. I will read the whole of his letter,
which is dated the 26th March, 1856 :
" Her Majesty's ship Algiers, Portsmouth,
March 26, 1856.
" Dear Sir Maurice,— I will reply to your questions seria-
tim, in the same order in which you put them. I. I da not
know whether Sir C. Napier objected to the position assigned
. to his ship after he received his orders from Sir. R. Stopford ;
but having been myself present, with other captains, at the
discussion which took place in the admiral's aftercabin, on the
evening of the 2d of November, le4o, I well remember. Sir
Charles Napier expressing strongly his disapproval of the are
• rangement of attack which was a ,rocated by Capt. Boxer;
' Cant- Houston Stewart, I think, and others—(hear)-eand
which was approved by Sir R. Stopford ; vie., that the line-
of-battle ships should bo taken in first by the steamers, and
that the smeller ships should follow them, and. fill up the
vacant spaces, &c. (Hear.) At this discussion—a, very warm
one:—Sir Charles Napier strongly maintained that the small
ships should be taken in first, and placed under the batteries
by the steamers, and that the steamers should afterwards
come out again, to take in the -line-of-battle- ships. The
admiral finally put an end to the diseussion very decidedly,
in these words I will not. hear any more about it, Napier;
I will not have the small ships sactifieed ler the largo ones.'
• (Hear, hear.) By his wish we all then retired, to enable him
to write out his orders for the attack of next morning. 2. I
have never seen the orders whichwere given to Sir C. Napier
for the attack ; but I was told then, and I have always' p
heard
since that by the admirals orders he was intended to anchor
his ship much nearer the south-west angle of the fortress
and en its seaward—in such a position that the fire from his
skips should rake the line of guns opposed to our division, in
the same way that the fire of the Carysfort, Talbot, eee,, di I
rake the line of guns opposed to his division. This was not
done. (Hear, hear.) The admiral's plan contemplated the
. commodore's running in from the south-west towards that
angle, and they that he should anchor the ships of his divi.
sion in succession along that western or sea face of the works,
beginning with his own ship when well abreast of the point.
He varied from this plan by going round by the northward,
under (it is said) an impression—which the event did nut
justify—that the sea breeze might fail. Having reversed his
part of the admiral's plan of attack, so far as relates to the
approach, he did not provide by fresh orders to the ships
. astern of him, against the disarrangement consequent on
neh a change. Thus, he did not himself reach within a con-
. iderable distance of the station assigned to him, and by his
• anchoring where he did, the ships following astern of him
were thrown out from the Position they were intended to take
uP. Intimately the Revenge weighed again, and moved ou
nearly to the position
originally assigned to the Power-
ful. 3. Sir C. Napier had nothing to do with taking posses•
sion of Acre—Ahem-, hear)—or landing men for that purpose,
so far an relates to the decisive time when the garrison were
abandoning the fortress in the night just after the nether'. It
was Sir taldvril Walker, who, being close in shore, first be. '
came aware of the evaeuati n t aving commenced, and it was
by his exertions, and his personally going to various ships,
. including the Austrian squadron, that a sufficient force was
obtaine t for landing, at once, and the sea-gate of the town
tak'en possession of during the latter part of that very night.
4. On the morning of the 4th of November Sir C. Napier
went on board of the I heenia to see the admiral. I was not
present myself, but I heard at the time, and it was well
. known through the squadron, that the admiral had, at that
into view, very decidedly expressed to Sir C. Napier his dis-
approbation of the manner in which he had placed the divi-
sion during the attack. Indeed, the very words that passed
during that conversation were mentioned genera'ly in the
, squad pie at that time, and are still in my recollection.
"I am, dear Sir Maurice, yours truly,
H, J. OPRINGTON
• , Captain, R N.
•" . " Rear Adiniral Hon. Sir Maurice Berkeley, K.G.B
Admiralty.
•P
I said that I would not only lay naval authorities before

(Cheers.) Now why, after all I have stated to the house,
are accusations brought against me such as those which
the right hen. baronet the member for Carlisle has pre-
ferred. Admiral Stopford might have been wrong. I say
that his plan of towing up the ships was wrong; and the
question is one which i should confidently leave it to any
committee of naval officers to decide. Why, I would also
ask, if the right hon. gentleman the Naval First Lord of
the Admiralty, deemed that my conduct at Acre was open
to censure, did he. advise his colleagues to send me out in
command of the Baltic fleet—a fleet of vast magnitude,
. and destined for a dangerous and an arduous service ?
Yet the right hon. gentleman did recommend his colleagues
to give sue the command of that fleet. Nay, more, he was
himself anxious to go out as my second in command. I
have it in Lis own writing. (Hear.) Is it not somewhat
hard, then, sir, that an officer who has had testimony such
as I have adduced borne to his professional character should
be so foully aspersed ? (Hear.) But in addition to the
docuotents which I have read to the house, I have a letter
from Sir Alexander Cochrane, complimenting me upon the
services which I rendered at Martinique. When I was
engaged in the Portuguese service, too, and where, I may
say, it, was of vast importance to settle the question between
Don Miguel and Donna Maria by a single coup, I, with
three frigates, ran on boa; d and took a considerable fleet in
:.bout ten minutes. (Hear, hear.) I have letters from the
right hon. gentleman the Naval First Lord cf the Admiralty
giving me the highest praise, and stating that he would
stick to me to the last, and yet the right hon. gentleman
has dared to state that I was nut fit to command the Baltic
fleet, and that I lost all nerve while in that position. If I
did lose all nerve, as the right hon. gentleman has asserted,
the treatment which I experienced at the hands of him and
his colleagues was the cause. (Hear.) My susceptibility is
great.. I have long been accustomed to praise. I therefore
find it difficult to support censure. (Hear.) I wish the
right hon. gentleman had been sent out in command of the
second expedition to the Baltic. He was the officer who
signed the letter ordering me to attack Sweaborg, and he
did so knowing, as must have been the case, that at that
season of the yoat—the month of October—it would be per-'
fectly impossible to carry the order into effect. When I
was relieved from the command of the fleet—and I may say
that under no circumstances would I again have served
under a Board of Admiralty by which I was treated as the
right hon. baronet and his colleagues treated me—a fleet
much superior to that which I had under my control was
sent out. It was entrusted to the direction of Admiral
Dundee, a member of that very board which had found
fault with me for not taking Sweaborg. Has he succeeded
in accomplishing that which I was censured for not having.
achieved? Bat it is unnecessary to entor further into this
matter. I have explained my case to the Iroise°, and to
the country I leave it t 3 say whether I am justly open to
the accusations which have been heaped upon me.
Admiral BERKELEY said that if the hon. and gallant
admiral who had just spoken had not so pointedly alluded
to him, he should have felt it to be unnecessary to address
a single observation to the house. He believed that hon.
members must allow that the evidence which had that.
evening been adduced by the right hon. gentleman the
Member for Carlisle, in support of the statement which
upon a previous occasion he had made with respect to the
capture of Acre, was perfectly conclusive. The hon. and
gallant gentleman who had just sat down had appealed to
the house as to the injustice which had been done by the
accusations which had been brought against him; but he
(Admiral Berkeley) should also ask the house whether it
was fair that he should have been obliged for the last ten
days or a fortnight to labour under the imputations which
went so far, almost,- as to say that the truth was not in hlm?
The lion. and gallant admiral seemed extremely, touchy
whenever his own character was concerned, and he ought
to consider 'that others, as well as he; had a reputation to
maintain. The hon. and gallant admiral had asked why he
(Admiral Berkeley), being aware of his conduct at Acre,
bad recommended his colleagues to send him out"in com-
mand of the Baltic fleet? Now, in reply to that question,
he might state that he should never have mentioned the
subject of Acre at all were it not for the-abuse which • the
bon. and gallant admiral had thought proper to lavish upon
bins and the board of which he had the honour to be a
member. In a speech which the gallant cfficer hadniade to
his constituents he had been pleased to recapitulate all the
distinguished services which he had rendered to the country
and had endeavoured to show how great had been the in-
gratitude with which he had been treated 'by him (Admi-
ral Berkeley), as well as his right hon. friend the member
for Carlisle. In the speech in question the bon. and gallant
officer had made use of these words :—" I was the person
who struck the final blow which put an end to the campaign
in Syria." Now, the hon. and gallant officeteinuet be aware
that he (Admiral Berkeley) had denied a similar statement
made in a parsiphht which was attributed to the hon. and j
grtl lßa gallantrkoeffil eye,
sr), and
ug
gwe which
s tionbeen statementeo had,corrected.
upon t
ed.
The his (Admi-
ralgalnt
admiral then had taunted him, holding the opinion which
he did upon the subject, with having sane ionod his ap-
pointment to the command of the Baltic fleet. He himself
had been an honest and fair candidate for that command,
and. had he taken advantage of his position as Senior Naval
Lord tdol
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induce right
appointhon. friend
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gallantthe
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felt that he should have been acting a p trt at once ohs-
honourable and unmanly. More than that, although he
would maintain all he bad said with regard to Acre,
kill he maintained that it was an error in judgment ; and
because a man conteaitted an error in, udginent in one
action that was not to do away with the high character
he had obtained in the service. (Hoar.) He would not
follow the hon. and gallant admiral in what he had said
about Sir Robert Stopford, the captains t f the fleet, the
attack upon Acre, and all that had passed. Those things
had been discussed over and over again, and once too often.
The hon. and gallant admiral said that he could pro luce
letters from him (Admiral Berkeley) praising and lauding
the whole of his conduct in the Baltic. He admitted it
. freely. (Hear.) He admitted that knowing his previous
character, knowing his energy in former actions, he had
put full and complete confidence in him, and he had ex-
pressed that in his letters. It was not until Sir Charles's
return from the Baltic. when he heard what was stated by
captains in the fleet, that he could wholly and solely change
his opinion. When he did change that opinion it became
his duty not to recommend that the lion, and gallant
officer should be re-appointed to his flag; but he would
take upon himself to say that there never was a Board of I
Admiralty that took 12Pre pains to soft= the
„hattliog

Admiral WALCOTT referred to the reply of the hon. baro-
net the member for arlisle, and the gallant admiral the mem-
ber for Gloucester, to C. Napier's speech on a former
evening, and censured their dangerous tone. The hon, baro-
net then referred to certain letters iu which the gallant admi-
ral had expressed an opinion that officers abo e 60 years of
age were not fitted for high command. Now, not only was
the case which the hon. baronet had made of these letters in-
consistent with the fact that the hon. baronet, knowing his
age, had appointed him to the command of the Baltic fleet,
but it was also inconsistent with the praise which he bad
himself given to the gallant admiral in that house, and with
the offer which the gallant admiral the member for Gloucester
had made to serve as second in command to Sir C. Napier.
He believed that the Baltic fleet of 1854 was not furnished
with appliances adequate to meet the expectations which the
country had formed of their exploits. He thought that they
did as much as the country had a right to expeet from them.
At the same time, he thought that Sir C. Napier bad brought
much that had taken place upon himself byhis conduct at the
Reform Club dinner, which aroused expectations that could
not be rea, iced. However, Sir C. Napier returned from the
Baltic, but was not again sent out, in which he (Admiral Wal-
cott) thought the Admiralty did right, because the gallant ad-
miral's manner of addressing the Admiralty was not such as it
ought to be. The hon. and gallant admiral (Walcott) then
censured the conduct of Sir C. Napier since his return, and for
his speech at the Mansion-house dinner. Ho condemned Sir
C. Napier for what he did at Acre, and his apology for it, and
said when he anchored be should have hoisted the signal,
" pass onwards." The hon
.and gallant admiral said he coull
not do it because the commander-in-chief was there, but he
(Admiral Walcott) would have disobeyed any order, if his
country's honour had been at stake, even if be had been
broke the next morning. He would not have cared for a
hundred commanders-in-chief on such an occasion. (Cheers )
Reverting to Sir C. Napier's conduct towards the Admiralty,
he again condemned it, and said that it was not right or the
Admiralty to stand in an inferior position, and that, if Sir
C; Napier fel agpievel, he should Lave demanded a court-
martial on his conduct. He blamed the Admiralty for giv ng
Sir C. Napier a second vote of thanks, and said that he con-
sidered Sir J. Graham and Admiral Berkeley were much to
blame in the matter, and that it „as to be regretted that such
speeches as those hon. members had made should have been.
addressed to the house.

➢lr. DISRAELI said the noble lord had been extremely
humorous in reference to his forgetfulness of memory ; but
if the house would deign to remember such circumstances, it
would remember that when ho assumed the responsible post
of Chancellor of the Exchequer, it was an arrangement that
the Government of which he was a member should accept and
move the estimates of their predecessors. He was somewhat
surprised at the tone of the noble lord iu reference to this
vote. The noble lord had complained that Ireland had been
the victim of sectarian differences for years past, and that
therefore it became necessary to establisi model farms. That
reminded him (gr. Disraeli) of the earlier clays of his Parlia-
mentary experience, when ho constantly heard of the miseries
of Ireland. Ho believed now that Ireland was a country
upon which they might look with delight and envy, but the
noble lord's remarks had thrown a cloud over the whole de-
bate. At all events the noble lord had had a half century of
official responsibility in connection with Ireland. As the
noble lord had abandoned the principle upon which he started
he should not press his opposition, or seek in any way to em-
barrass the Government, more especially as the noble lord
admitted that such votes could not again be submitted to
Parliament.

When any of these dates fall on a Sunday, the mails will
spatched on the following day, with the exception of the In,11? (r)
Southampton), and the Malta, both of whieh will be deltpatch,d
preceding day.

" United Service Club, April 2, 1856

" My dear Sir Charles,—Since my conversation with you
last evening, I have endeavoured to bring to my recollection
some of the circumstances of the attack on the Fort of Acre
on the 4th November, 1540.
" file division under your orders attacked the western
face, and that in which was the Edinburgh, the southern one.
At the moment of weighing anchor the wind veered to the
northward, and necessitated a change in the mode of attack.
" Instead of running and anekoring under the batteries
from the south, you wore obliged to perform the operation
from the north. This caused some little misunderstandine, ;
the ships anchored astern of you, instead of in line ahead.
I remember also that the southern division was thrown into
momentary confusion by Sir Robert Stopford hoisting the
signal to follow the Powerful. It :s probable, in this case,
that the signal officer omitted to hoist the divisional flag.
I mention this to show how easily mistakes may arise, and
that they should nut always be attributed to the commander-
in•chief, or to the commander of a division.
" It is difficult to recollect all the facts of a feat of war
which tcok place 16 years ago ; yet main facts are eng,raven
on the memory, not to be effaced. Your exertions during
that short. campaign were patent to all, and greatly contri-
buted to the rapid success which was obtained—a success of
the greatest moment, when the public feeling in France at
that moment is taken into consideration.
" Nor is this my opinion only, but that of the majority of
the fleet with you, and under the orders of Sir Robert Stop-
ford.

Lord PALMERSTON said he should be sorry to take ad-
vantage of the right hon. gentleman's vote upon such an un-
derstanding. All he had said was that tho subject might be
properly discussed iu future years.
Mr. HADFIELD was of opinion that Ireland had had
too much done for her. Ho believed that the noble lord
would never be a party to such wrangles if he was left to his
own free will, but ho was goaded by gentlemen before, and
goaded by gentlemen behind, so that he was obliged to move
on. (Laughter.) There was a power in the minds of the na-
tion far more anxious to educate the people than there was
iu the people to be educated. Those grants were bidding
against public spirit, and silencing the proper feeling of the
country.
Mr. T. HANKEY wished to know the meaning of 700/.
voted td workhouse teachers. Those teachers in England
were paid out of the poor-rates.

The subject then dropped, and the houso went into com-
mittee of supply.
The following votes were agreed to :-
16,7831. for Government inspectors of prisons.
415,9601. for Government p isons and convict prisoners.
161,5951. for the maintenance of prisoners, criminal luna-
tics, &c.

Mr: S POONER said that it would be doing a great injustice
to persons whose livelihood depended on these grants to take
them away. _ _ _

Mr. VANSITTART moved to reduce the vote to 2^,0,000/.
Mr. WILLIAMS said that the noble lord seemed inclined to
abandon the principle of the veto, but the Secretary of the
Treasury gets up and says that it had been voted year after
year, mid defended it at all hazards. He thought that the
Government should postpone the vote.
Mr..BLACKBURN said that no injustice was proposed to
persons already in the possession of contracts, but the pre-
sent votes contained an increase of 12,0001. Unless the Go-
vernment 'would pledge themselves to a future reduction, he
thought the house ought to go to a division.
Mr. MOWBRAY thought that the sense of the house
should be taken on the two votes of 3,0:M. for a model
school iu Londonderry, and 4,0001. fora model school, place
not specified.
Lord PALMERSTON could only repeat that the whole
subject should be left to the commissioners. The Govern-
ment could mot pledge itself further, and the house ought to
be satisfied with the assurance.

25,4851. for the transportAtion of convicts.
256,6051. for convict establishments in the colonies.
EDUCATION.

" As a proof of this assertion, let me call to your remem-
brance what took place on your return from Alexandria to
Marmorica. As you passed into the bay to take up your
anchorage, each ship—at least, a large majority of the ships
—spontaneously cheered you, and with a heartiness not often
exhibited even by seamen,
" Believe me, very truly yours, , •
" F. D, ITAsmos, Captain,

On the vote for education,
WILSON said that, instead of asking for a vote of
450,0001. for education, he proposed to ask but for 300,0001.
an account, leaving 150,0001. to stand over until after the
decision of the house on the resolutions of the noble lord the
member for the City of London on education.
Mr. MOWBRAY called attention to the house and pre-
mises known as Kneller Hall ; ho saw that, by the estimates
of last year, 4,8001. were voted for it, but now, in cense-
qtlence of that institution being a failure, he wished to know
what it had cost the country, and what sum was likely to be
realised for the premises ?

" Sir Charles Napier, K.C.8."
Do von thick-the seamen of the fleet would have, upon a
dark and rainy night, thus come on board their ship, to
cheer me if they thought I was open to such charges as
those which the right hon. baronet has advanced ? I have
here another letter, which-1 have received from the master
of the vessel which I had the honour to command at Acre,
and to which perhaps the house will also have the kindness
to listen. The writer says :

Mr. WILSON said asimilar return was ordered last year.
There would be no objection to furnish it again. It was im-
possible to state what amount the premises might produce.
Mr. MOWBRAY asked what proportion the return for
these premises were expected to bear with reference to the
expenditure on the institution ?
Mr. WILSON said it was imposSible to say.
After some further remarks from hon. members,
The vote was agreed to.
In reply to a question from Mr. BARROW,
Sir G. GREY said that the gratuitous grants ,of books,
maps, dic., would be continued to adult schools so long as
they came within the conditions of the grant.
64,635/. was granted for the general management of the
department of science and art, and the schools in connection
with the'Geological Society. -
Mr. WILLIAMS expressed his dissent to the manner in
which this vote was distributed, and instanced a large sum
being entered for the agricultural colleges for teaching the
people to " buy and sell cattle."
Mr. BLACKBURN also objected to the vote. From the
return of the working of these schools, they appeared to be
a failure. He moved the postponement of the vote.
Lord PALMERSTON said that the hon. member, to be
consistent in his conduct, ought to oppose every vote for the
education of the lower classes.- Education was to teach
people that that would bo useful to them in their passing
through life.

The amendment of Mr. Vansittart having been withdrawn,
the house divided on the original amendment, when there
appeared
For the amendment .
Against it
Majority —lO6
The original question having been put,
Mr. MOWBRAY moved the reduction of the vote by the
two sums of 3,0001. and 4,0001. for two new schools, not as
.yet sanctioned,. and of one of which the Government had not
as yet decided on the site.
After a few words from Mr. Wmakms,
Mr. HEY WORTH rejoiced that the prospects of economy
had made more progress on the other side of the house than
on their own. These grants were as much a violation of
public justice as of public economy.
Mr. M`MA.HON supp..)ttecl the full amount of the vote.
The house divided, when there were—
For the amendment
Against • 126
Majority . B5
Mr. SPOONER moved to report progress on account of the
lateness of the hour.

" Deptford, March 31, 18.56:

" My dear Sir Charles,—ln reply to your note of the
25th instant, requesting me to state all I remember about
' Acre,' I beg to state that on the evening previous to the
attack, when 3ou came from the flag ship, you told me that
the plan arranged for the next day by the commander-in-
chief was that three steamers were to tow in Powerful,
Princess Charlotte, and Bellerophon ; the same three
steamers were then to go back an-I bring in three more. I
remarked the chums would be in favour of our being sunk
before the second three could be brought in. You then sent
for the late Capt. Henderson, who, in reply to a question
from you, said that not less than two hours should be reek-
oYnoeud thu ao nw
en foprgt
teottthinogatahge-shsiepe,oannda hwreenet
sships d
ini ugtoa
ndaetion
buoy-
ing for the remainder of the night. In the morning you told
me that the plan of attack had been altered; that Powerful
was to lead and anchor off the first bastion, the other ships to
pars us, and anchor in succession, each covering the other,
similar to Lord Nelson's attack at the battle of th Nile. This
is certainly as I understood it ; whether we went in by the
north or the south channel; the plan was to be the same.
When we came abreast of the first bastion, I asked you if we
were to anchor there, and you said uo, that there did not ap-
Pear guns enough in it to make it of importance. You di-
rected me to pass to the next gulls, and anchor as close as the
depth (,f the water would permit. This was close, and I was
never more surprised in my life than I was to see the Princess
Charlotte anchor astern instead of passing us. I suggested to
you to make the signal for Revenge to come in and anchor a-
head of us. You objected to this, saying that you could not
make signals with Commanders in-Chiefs ship so close to you,
with his flag flying, who must see the necessity of it as w.ll as
yourself. Ultimately this signal was made, and Capt. Craw-
ford conveyed your wishes to Capt. Waldegrave as to the
position ho should take up.
" I forgot to say that, on the morning of the attack, the
master of the flag-ship and myself were sent to the Vesuvius
to mound, and try the north channel, the wind at that time
showing every indication of coming from the nor,hward.
After we came back we went to the flag-ship, and made our
report of there being a good channel with a leading wind.
" This is all I remember of what occurred. Some things I
may have forgotten, but what I have stated is to the best of
my recollection.—l remain, dear Sir Charles, yours very
faithfully, 4' E. J. PEARN.' •
•
I have ulso a letter from the commander of my ship, to
which
letteriehl i
should
as followsulwisht :ofll the attention of the house.
The

The motion was agreed to.
The Joint-Stock Companies Bill was committed pro forma,
for the purpose of being reprinted with amendments.
The Public Works (Ireland) Bill was read a second time.
The house then wont into committee pro forma on the
Bankruptcy (Scotland) Bill, for the purpose of its being re-
printed with amendments.
JOHN SADLEIR AND THE ENCUMBERED ESTATES

Mr: WILLIAMS moved that the vote be reduced to
23,9051.

Col. DUNNE said the agricultural schools had done great
service to the public. All that was required was that the
money should be well expended.
Mr. BARROW thought the vote ought to be reduced, in
order to cut off those excrescences which injured the cause
of education.

;
COURT.
Mr. DEASY moved for returns of the several purchases
Court ; 'specifying
made in the Encumbered Estates Court by the late John
Sadleir, or any one in trust for him
title of the estate or matter in which each such purchase was
made, the names of the solicitors having the carriage of the
sale, and the amount of the purchase money. Of the number
specifying the name or
of declarations of trust made by or to said John Sadleir, ap-
pearing in any book or document in the Encumbered Estates
the names or titles of the estate or matter
iu which such declarations of trust were made, and the names
of the solicitors having the carriage of the sales in such mat-
ters. Of the several orders made by the commissioners, or
any of them, extending the time for lodgment of purchase
money by said John Sadleir; specifying the date of the or-
der, the amount of the purchase money, the name or title of
the estate, and the period for which the time of lodgment was
extended:. And, of the 'number of conveyances executed by
the commissioners to the said John Sadleir, or any one in
trust for hini. • •

Mr. MOWBRAY said he found one item of 1,0001. for
teachers of neatness and cleanliness. (Laughter.) Now, he
thought, considering that they had teachers of all sorts pro-
vided, some of them might have embraced the teaching of
cleanliness and neatness without its being necessary to have
a vote of 1,0001. f,,r special teachers of those qualities.
Mr. KINNAIRD suggested to the Government the pro-
priety of reconsidering this vo e.
Mr. MACARTNEY complained of the number of the
higher-classed officers of this establishment. The vote had
been increased from year to year for these officers. The
amount for administering this vote was no less than 14,0001.,
being 1,0001. more than it was last year. The
of this establishment required the whole system to be
i

"Tripoli ought to be taken immediately, which should be
followed up b 3 an attack on Acre, both of which would fall."

NAPIER TO LORD MINTO— Oct. 22, 1840

lo_ftiht.in,k Acre ought to be attacked, but I fear there is no

NAPIER TO COLONEL HODGES—Oct. 31, 1840.
"After 20 diys' inactivity, it is at last decided to go to
Acre, with 3,500 men, which I hope will not be changed; but
changes are so common here that I feel certain of nothing, till
it is actually in motion.'

Mr. PHILLIMORE characterised this vote as a job. One
item in it was " literary teachers to the literary teachers.'
(Loud laughter.) He thought the Government would do well
to reconsider the vote, which b3re upon its features such
strong marks of a job.
Mr. DISRAELI thought the vote required further con-
sideration. Ho.was,not prepared to say that a model. farm
in Ireland was not calculated to be of advantage, although
he was opposed to model farms generally ; but in this case it
was not a model institution, but a parent institution, and it

Mr. HORSMAN consented to the returns being granted.
The house then adjourned at twenty-five minutes to two
o'clock. _

LORD PONSONBY TO NAPIER—Nov. 9, 1840.
" I write only to congratulate you upon your having spi-
rited up our chief to attack St. Jean, for I feel no doubt you
did it."

" Royal Hospital, Greenwich, April 3, 1556.
" My dear Sir Charles—In answer to your questions rola.
tire to A cra, so long a tinse has elapsed that I can only do so
to the best of my recollection.
" I hare always been under the firm couvictiou that you

Monsignor Patrizzi will set out from Rome to-
wards the end Of May for Paris, in order to'repre-
sent the Pope at the baptism of the Prince Impe-
rial.

,
LORD PALMERSTON TO NAPIER—Noy. 14, 1840.
" / wish you had been allowed to attack Acre. I have n•
doubt that you could havo taken it. Perhaps our instructions