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of great impolicy to disgust these men. Instead, how-
ever, of serving them, the other measures of the Govern-
ment, especially those on the navigation laws, had still
further injured them by depriving them of employment.
These seamen, who formed the nursery of our fleets,
should, in his opinion, have been attached to the country,
instead of being left to give their services to foreign
states. He regretted many things that passed daily be-
fore his eyes, He regretted that though this country
had increased in material wealth—though not in the
same proportion as other countries—her people were not
in mind, in spirit, and in statesmanlike wisdom, the
great people that they formerly had been. Looking,
however, at what passed daily, he was led more and
more to the conclusion that one of the greatest calami-
ties that could affect a constitutional state was the pro-
tracted existence of a weak, timid, and irresolute Go-
vern ment.—(Hear.)
Earl GRANVILLE did not think it advisable to en-
ter as the Noble Earl had done on the discussion of a
Bill not yet before their Lordships; he should, there-
fore refrain from following the Noble Earl in his analy-
sis, and content himself with saying that when the Bill
should come before the House he hoped he would be
able to show that it deserved in no sense the character
given of it by the Noble Lord. He (Earl Granville)
was not there to defend the Act of 1834; but he was
bound to remind the Noble Earl that no want of cour-
tesy had been shown to the Commission of which he
was chairman, by the Government, in the matter. A
Bill had been framed in accordance with the recommen-
dation of the Commission, but there was not a single
Member of a single port in the country who did not
come forward and object to it. The Government were
therefore induced to bring in another Bill; but this Bill
was looked upon by the sailors, for whom it was in-
tended, as an evil, and therefore no course was open to
them except the one they had taken in this in-
stance. The House of Commons, with unexampled
liberality, had enabled the Government to carry out their
views in the matter, and therefore he (Earl Granville)
regretted all the more the speech had been made by the
Noble Earl. Notwithstanding the Noble Earl's pre-
dictions however—predictions which he (Earl Gran-
ville) had been in the habit of hearing for years when-
ever any large measure was carried—he believed that
the country was never in a more prosperous condition
than at present, and that all the efforts that had been
made had been successful in achieving the moral and
physical welfare of the people.
Lord COLCHESTER complained of the late period
at which important Bills were sent up to their Lord-
ships, and maintained that if they did not discuss them
beforehand they would not have the opportunity of dis-
cussing them at all. He regretted that the fund had
been allowed to pass into a state of inpol% eecy, and he
regretted also that the Government had not brought
for% and a satisfactory provision for the aged and de-
cayed sailors. England was the oily country in Europe
which left this class of her population unprovided for.
Sweden, France, Belgium, Spain, Austria (as regarded
Venice), and the United States, providing for their aged
and distressed seamen.

The motion was then agreed to.
LODGING-HOUSES.

On the motio❑ of the Eurl of SHAFTESBURY, the
Lodeing-houaes Bill went through Committee.
THE GUNPOWDER STORES (LIVERPOOL).
On the motion of Earl GRANVILLE. the Gunpowder
Stores (Liverpool) Exemption Repeal Bill was read a
second time.