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HOUSE OF PEERS,

THURSDAY, JUNE :0.

COLTNSEL were further heard relative to the important
Appeal, Morthland and Johnston v. Cadell ; after which their
Lordships postponed the,further consideration of the Case till
Saturday.

After a short conversation between the Duke of Noa [ILK,
the Lotto- CHA.NeEztiliz-, and the Earl of STIFOLK, the
intended Motionof-Lord Tnba LOw, relative to certain Stand-
iing Orders of the .House which stood for this day, was post-
poned, in consequence Of the indisposition of that Ncible and
:Learned Lord ;- and the Earl-of So ryocx's -proposed Mdtion
iespeeting the conduct} of His Majesty's late Ministers, &c.
was postponed till Tuesday next, on which day their Lord_
ships were orckred to be summoned. •
The Bills upon the Table were forwarded in. their respec-
tive stages. -

The Marquis of SALISBURY reportediEis Majesty's An-
swer to tbe late Address of the Ilousc. - • ,
The' proper Officer present.d .an Accotinttof the appropria-
tion, &c. of the proceeds of old Naval Stores, pursuant to a
late 'tote of their Lou.LhiPs.Ordered to lie upon the Tahle.
-.Counsel (Mr. GAR sow) and Evidence were:heard on the
question tier the second reading- of . the Bill. to -dissolve the
Marriage, of George Borifiami .'Esq.• with Paulina, his- now
wife: From the statements. and 7depositions of those it
appeared, that the Petitioner is Captain of the East India
.Company's Ship the Walmer Castle ; • that in Mar;,h;
he was married -at Calcutta, to %Miss Paulina Lushington.
.daughter of William Lushin,gtorri; Esq. ; that they lived and
cohabited ,rogether at -man . and -Wile until June fo'dowing,
when the Royal Admiral, Company's Ship, then commanded
by the Petitioner, was orzlereditottake in troops to• be em-
loyed in an attack'upon the Spanish Settlements at the
laniilas, las, on which account it 'was deemed adviseable by the
friends of the parties, -that Mrs. Bonham . should return 'to
her friends in England, and accordingly tome time afterwards
'she embarred for-Europe,-on -board-the -Companyils' Ship
Alinerva. It appeared,- that Mrs. Bonham was, during her
voyage, 'delivered of a male child, of which she was preg-
nant at the time of her dell:it:lpm from Calcutta ; that at the
Cape of -Good Hope,*-the, Lady -became unfortunately ac-
qi.v.inted with Major Rooke; of One of l',lajesty's*Regi-
monis serving in India, who accompanied he'r home to London,
'where it. appe:ired, by the testimony of one or two oe the
Witnesses, that.art aduiC:rOus ini.c.irc-iitrie took place between
'ber.abcUla.lor. Rook; that the did not return to
'England tilt the'2sth of Ocloher, 1-7(y;, interval of SiV:Cf."ll
months after his separating. from Mrs. Bonham at Calcutta,
and during that period the: Lady Was delivered of a child in
London on the Sth of April, :70, which, according to the
deposition of one of the Witnesses, a Lady at whose house
itlrs.• Boni-von then lodged, was a fine ftilf grown child.- In
cousequgx,x_of what. b:, had heard, the Petitioner had no sort
of intercourse with Mr.. Bonham, and on thedetefti9n of her
hcitiltery, he brought his Action in the Court of King'sdiench
against Major ftooke, who suffered judgment-to go by de-
fault; and damages were afterwards doi;, assessed at 30001.
With costs of suit. The usual proceedings were then inAi-
tuted oil the part of the Petitioner in the Ecclesiastical Courts,
and in March, rt-:0, he obtaixd a definitive sentence of di-
vorce from bed and board, &c.

The Lcar.iied CoUrisei obServcd, that no case whatever
could be rtior-e free from the important-consideration of any
imputation of collusion than the present, as the Petitioner
/tad-neve even heard of Major Rookc until he heard he:was
the author oi his misfortune ; th,t on the question 'of aisess-
inz. the clamac.res, f've ry poss ib iet etiort was made on the part
of the Dt!..febialit to reduce them, and that since the award,
every practicable step was taken to enforce the payment of
the tiarmaiz:!3.•

The ficts above stated were regularly proved at the Bar,
secinni-,ly to. the_satisi‘aa.4nn of their Lordships, and the
LORD CUANCELLOR just took occasion to observe, that the
fact of the nob-intercourse between the Petitioner and his
Wife; front. Odoher 1793, and her delivery of a full grown
child in April 1790, was decisive as to her adultery. ,
No di llerence opiaiou seeming to prevail as to the merits
vsf-the-eas..,. the LOA CIfA NC It put the question, Wheri
the Bill we s forthwith read a second time, and committed
for to-morrow. . _

7 776 e 234 cf MO 1? /I took occasion to call the:r Lordships'
attel.fon generally to. tlx..subjeza of the Bills, of which. he
had formerly given notice of ids intention ofintroducing for
the.amendrnew of the existing Laws of Debtor and Credi-
tor. 'His
.Lprdf,hip Stated the principle on which his Bills
Should,proceed, which was a recapitulation of what he had
on former occa3ikis delivered on the subject ; and, we un-:
r.istobd him to say, that he meant to embrace a two-told
operation, that respeeltie me.lne process, which should be
prospective, and with respett to those at present in confine-
ment far (1,1)t, :its operation 'shOuld be immediate. The
Noble tail advertad to .the ell= sof the late measures which
had heal adopter on the subia, and alluded to the steps
'witch might be taken by, individuals in contemplation of his
intended Uptra the whole, •he observed, it iroirld be
found very inceptitetlint to take the v'rise of the judges upon
f4c difFerent points connetted‘ with the subject in sufficient
• tine to bring it forililtd before the'ekpiration of the present
Session.---Hs was therefore unt,ter the neeessityof postponing
it to a subsequent Session, but in sayintt•this, he wished it to
be understood.' that he by no me:ntS relinquished ti' object.
On the contrary, he should persist in his :mention, and come
forward In the nest Session on the first praticable opportu-
nity. „
Lard HOLLAND expressed his hope-that his Noble Friend
would penis: in his lividable'intentien of corning forward as
be had given notice, ;:n1 on'an occasion in which he thought
the
,interference of the Legislature was less cailtkl for by
humanity than by justice.,He made some ohservatiions on the,
necessity which existed f)r hmelioratinA these parts of the'
7.lers, and noticed that by a former order of the House, the
lodges were desired to prepare .4„Bili upon the subject. Ha
h,-,pecl, however, that hi,Aoble. Friend would lose no time
text Session, but come torw:ard on the very first opportu-
nity. •
The Irish Yeomanry Pay WI! was brought up by Mr.
ALEXANDER, and the Hull Wet Docks Bill by Mr. S •
'mitt NTON from the Commons, and a few Private Bills. by
Mr. PLACKZURNY and other Gentlemen, which being kead
a first time, their Lordships adjourned till To-morrow.

110 USE OF COMMONS,

THURSDAY, JUNE 10.

-MR. TncßiNsoN moved, that the Aa of
Henry VIII. relatiVe to Clergy; be read; which
being (lope, he moved, that leave be given to bring
in a Ed', to continue the operation of the Aft of
tE.oz. suTending the operation of that Ad for a
limited time. Leave given. ,
ti
The Report of the Committee on (he Controvert_
bill was received, and the Resolutions
of theCtininiit tee agreed to, and the Bill ordered to
be rngri-:sstd, aGilsread a third time on Thursday.
, The Repot of the Committee on. the Petition of
tht -City o! London 'against the Paddington rvlarket,
was brought up,, when it appeared that it was the
opinion of the Committee, that the allegations of
tle Petition were. unfounded. The Report was or-
(it.red :o be printed, .4ind diStributed among the
IVlernbers. _ . .

The Revort of the Committee on the Coroners'
Bill was brought up, and the Resolutions agreed to.
on the question that the Bill be ,engrossed, it was
opposed by Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE, when the House
divided,

Ayes

Noes

23
35
-e-1 2

Majority
Tile Dill in consequence is lost.

we found
On being re-admitted to the Gallery,
IVIr. Fox on his, legs, spe-lsing to. the Report of the
Committee of Supply on the Peace Establishment.
Mr. FOX expressed his regret that circumstances
had prevented him from 1 .)e:lng present at the de-
bates on the. Peace, as be should have certainly en.
eavourecl to hew that the co,.urtry was placed by
it in such a situation as .only to rc9tlire a very re_
duced 2stablishment ; and to bring our Peace Esta.
blishment as low .as circumstances could possibly
AdMit, be thought the most, solid good that could
ron,ikred to the, Coantry. The proposed Esta,

blishrnetit, from its magnitude, not only exceeded
what necessity required, but was, from its magni.
tuck, absolutely not to be considered,as a Peace
Establishment. Our Peace Establishment was to
be considered in three-points of view, as it related
to Great Britain, to Ir.eland, and to our Colonies

in the WeSt Indies. With regard-to the last, our
West India Colonies, if the Country was madly
to persevere in continuing the Slave Trade, and
abetting fresh importations of Negroes into these
Colonies-, he did not say that • a large Esta-
blishment would not he necessary to enforce our
ruinous measures in that quarter. In Ireland
likewise, if - the present system were perse-
vered in, if coercive measures were to be con-
tinued, and the people were.to be awed by a mili-
tary pOs,ver, instead of being taught, to respeet, the
Civil Authority, it might indeed be found necessary
to maintain a large military force. But with regard
to. 6rKat Britain, not a si►,gle argument could be
alledged against reducing its Military Establishment
to the most coatraded scale. Many reasons might
be advanced to 1-;rove that it ought to he less than in

1783 ; but in the present state of Europe, in the
present state of our Finances, not one good reason
could be assigned why it shotild be greater. He
said,' he should 'not, however, enter more largely
into the subject,' nor oppose the present vote of the
comNtree, as 'he understood that the proposed
Establishment was not to he considered as the basis
of the future Peace Establishment; but mealy as a
temporary measure, the whole subjea being left
fully -Opel) to-future discussion.
The C H ANCEbLOR. of the EXCHEQUER said,
'that the Hon. Gentleman was perfealy correCt in
suppbsing that the present .Vote was only a tempo-
rary 'measure, intended to remain in force for a
limited time, and in nowise binding the House to
follow, in future, any particular• course on the sub-
jea, which was left -completely open to future dis-
cussion. What had fallen from the Hon. Gentle-
man, however, with regard to wliat he (the CHAN-
cyntott of the ExcH;Qttrk) had said as to this
Vote not being the eliais of the Peace Establish-
ment, required some explanation. The Rresent
Vote was not to be considered as the basis of the.
futute'Peace Establishment, in such a manner as to
fetter Parliament, or to preclude any future dis-
feussion on the subjea but the principle main-
tained in this Vote, the necessity of keeping up a
strong Military Force, was certainly to be consi-
dered as the basis on which the future Peace Esta-
blishment was io be made. After •having-observed
the violent commotions which lately agitated Eu-
rope, and after obserVing the still unsettled state.of
the Continent, no man of good sense could surely
affirm that it was not necessary to maintain alarger
Establishment at present than in 1783. • The Hon.
Gentleman had himself admitted that it was neces-
sary to keep up a large Force in the West-Indian
Colonies, and in Ireland. In this opinion they
perfeetly agreed, though there might be a difference
with regard to the causes which produced this ne-
cessity ; for he could not allow that the system
. pursued with regard to Ireland .and the. Colonies,
was that which rendered a large Military Force in
these places requisite. - There might also be some
difference between himself and the Hon. Gentleman_
'with regardeto the number 4,Troops- which it was
expedient to maintain, even allowing that circurn.
stances rendered a large Establishment necessary.
He should not, however, enter into the discussion
of the exael.number, as circumstances might arise
to alter any estimate formed on that subjeCt. He
felt himself, however, aut horised to.say, that the final
'Peace Establishment would not be so large as the pre
sent Vote; but he should deceive the House if he did
not at she same time state, that a larger Peace Esta-
blishment than formerly 'would be required for the
security of the Country. . such an Establishment,
however, would be found entirely consistent with
the truest principles ,of economy ; not the .partial
and short-sighted.economy which was regulated by
the' circumstances of a particular yeared;ut 4hat- large,
that extended ecOnomy, which was condufted on a
general system, intended 'to be acted upon through
a long succeeding course of years. He'shouid there-
fore content himself at present with repeating what
he hoped had been clearly proted to theftfouse in
the course of former discussions, that a larger Peace
Establishment than forMerly was now requisite, and-
that this larger Establishment could be recon-
ciled with the truest principles of economy. The
maintenance of 3 powerful Force was the surest
meens of preventing any interruption to Cur plans
of economy. •Aftere what he had said, he hoped
the House would look upon the present vote as
only applying to the remaining part of this year ;
but at the same time he wished that he might'not
be-considered as pledging himself to- any particular
diminution on fixing the final Peace Establishment.
Mr. FOX rose tp explain. He did not wish the
House to misunderstand what he had said with re.:
i'ard to the West India Colonies and Ireland : he
by no means meant to allow that a large Military
Establishment would be requisite in these quarters,
unless in consequence of improper measures being
pursued. Even supposing this to be the case, he
,4ould require much previous investigation, before
he could make up his mind as to the quantum of %
the requisite Establishment. He was, however,
convinced, that it ought to he much smaller than
the present Vote. • But as lie would not encroach
on the rules-of the House, and as the present Vote
was not to be considered as the basis of the future
Establishment, he should not at present enter into
the grounds on which he rested this opinion. He
should content himself with simply stating it as
the opinion cf an individual, which he had adopted
on mature deliberation, and which he should con..
tinue to hold till his sentiments were altered by
stronger arguments than any which he -had hitherto
heard advanced on the opposite side of the question.
On .the Resolution respeding the pay of' the
Foreign Corps being read, '•
•The SECRETARY at IVA /j observed, that it •
was the intention of Government to disband all the
Foreign Corps in our Service, with the exception
of the Regiments of Neuron, Rohan`, 'and Stuart.
It had been intended to disband the Dutch Corps
immediately ; but the Prince CS Orange had repre-
sented. to our Government, that he considered us as
bound to keep them up for a limited time longer.-- ;
With regard to his own sentiments, he had certain-•
ly formed an opinion on that subject, which it was 1

not necessary at present to state. The point, 'how.
ever; had been referred to those Most conversant
in such affairs and best able to judge of them, .and
a determination in consequence of their sentiments
would be formed by Government as soon as possible.
The other Resolutions were then read and agreed
to.

On the Motion of the SECRETARY at WAR,
leave was given to bring in the Mutiny Bill, and
also the Marine Mutiny Bill.
Mr. CORRY' rose in consequence of a notice
given yesterday, to make a Motion relative to
the Public Building in Dublin, known by the name
of the Parliament House. As this building. was
now unoccupied, it- had been thought adviseable to
twilit to some useful purpose, and there was no one
for which it had appeared to be better calculated
than to allot it for, the reception of the National
Bank, which in consequence it had been resolved to
transfer thither. :He did not conceive it necessary
to say any more on this subjea ; he should there-
fore merely move, " that leave be given to bring.
in a Bill to enable the Lord High Treasurer, or
Lords oommissi,mers of the Treasury of Ireland, to
sell and dispose of that building in Dublin, called
the Parliament House, with all its appurtenances,
to the GOvernor and Compaq of ',the Bank of
land."

Leave was given.
,The Irish Linen Manufa&tire Bill went through
a Committee ; the Report to be received to-morrow.
The Dutch Property Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed to-morrow.
On the question being put, that the House .re-
solve itself into a Committee on the Irish Contro-
verted EleCtion Bill, -
!' Mr. FOSTER said, he looked upon Lord Ga EN-
V ILL E's' Bill as one of the best ever passed, and
he did not wish to see the Irish Members-deprived
• of it's advantages, to which they ,had acquired
title by the, Aa of Union. There were indeed
opposite inconveniences -attending their situation.
It was indeed inconvenient to bring witnesses from
such a distance ; but it would be attended with still
greater disadvantages to give up the trial by Jury,
io- which light he considered the CoMmittees ap-
pointed by the Grenville A. It was dangerous
to entrust the investigation of a Candidate's claims
in. the hands of persons unable to form a proper
judgment of them. He, should be-. glad to know.
what was to be done upon the event of a Contro-
verted Eleaion in Ireland ; it was necessary to have
a Member.of the Imperial Parliament brought over
as a witness. Was the commission to stop all pro-
ceedings till he chose to come over, or were they
to.proceed to a final decision, independent of his
evidence, however essential. The Bill gave the
new tribunal no powers to compel his attendance.
The want of this power had been felt by,the Com-
mittees of the Irish Parliament formerly appointed
to try Controverted Elec'tions'; and they had often
been obliged to have recourse to the Hous‘e, to
compel the attendance of witnesses, without whose
evidence their decisions must have 'been made
in direct opposition to justice. Ile - thought it very
improper to make different regulations for Ireland
and Great Britain. Trial by Jury was here given
up, and written evidence admitted, instead of that
ViVa CCC, by which me.iiis all the advantages to,
be derived from confronting witnesses were lost ;
aml,the evidence of the witnesses would also be in-
fitteoced by the kcal tribunal 'before which they
were to he examined. He did not, however, mean
to propose any alteration of the measure;. he merely
meant to state his opinion, and enter his protest as
an individual avairist it. • • ,

.- Mr- LEE said, that he should trouble the House
with a few words io support of the Bill. It was
very fir from his wish, or from the 'obj,.,Ct of this
Bill, to give up tie principle of the Grenville Ad,
which no inan in the House admired. more than he
-did, because lie was convinced that the., purity of
Parliament depended more upon that At. than any
other that had ever paSsed. It Was therefore far
from his intention to depriveflre4md of the benefit
of that At, he merely wished to make it applicable,
as' far as it was possible, to Ireland. When the
Q(.4.ion of Union was under conideration in
Ireland, the trial of Controverted Eledions appeared
to be the grog bar to that Measure, The Noble
Lord who proposed the. Measure of Union in Ire-
land, and who, during its progress, displayed the
greatest talents, .caralidly admitted that great diffi-
culties presented themselves upon the' suhjeit of
.Controverted EleCtions. • He stared a variety of
plans Which. might be propOsed to obviate this dif-
ficulty, though he pledged, and ultimately the point.
was left for the .wisdom of the United Parliament,
and conseqhently the Imperial Parliament, was
hound to adopt some measure upon the subject.
The .Right Hon. Gentleman seemed to think thait
this Bill completely deviated from.the principles
the Grenville Ad, but if the House would examine
the Bill, they would find that it varied as little as
it was possible Ervin, that At. The Provisions of
this Bill were simply these when a Petition came
from Ireland respeCting, it Controverted Eleaion, it
was to be referred to a Commitree appointed according
to the ,Provisions of the Grenville An. The par-
ties are then to be called before the Committee,
and if the Question in dispute 'should he mercy of a
legal nature, such as the construdion of an At} of
Parliament, of .a Charter, &e. in such. a case he
should think the Committee would not send the
Question to a CommiSsion in Ireland, but would
'decide it as they would a Controverted Election in
England. But in the case of a County Controveßed
+.:lection, where the legality of some hundreds, or
perhaps thousands of Votes were to be scrutinized,
and where several witnesses must necessarily be
examined, there he should think the Committee
would properly send the Question to be examined
by Commissioners in Ireland ; because the ex-
pellee
.of bringing over perhaps a thousand or two
of witnesses, would be absolutely ruinous. In the
case of a Contested Election trot long ago, for the
County of Tipperary, in which there was a Petition
Which lasted near a year and a halt, the expence to
the parties was not less than z'0,0001.. Now, if
such an enormous expence was incurred from try-
ing. that question in Dublin, it was not going too
fir to say, that it would be four or five times as
great if it was tried in London. There was an-
other circumstance which, in. his opinions, deserved
the attention of the house, It must be recoljeaed,

that 'two-thirds of the Irish Members w.llt
returned by Sheriffs who were'
appointed by
the Crown.—Now, if the expence of trying
a Controverted Elcaion, under the Grenville 'Aet!
was so great, Gentlemen Would be unwilling, ana
indeed unable to assert' their rights by a ettion,
the consequence would be, that of adding grearilY
indeed. to the influence of the Crown, because cite
Return would he made by Sheriffs appointed bf
objeaions to this- Bill was,
the Crown. One of the Right Hon. Gentleman'a
ble for the COthurnissioners 'in Ireland to compel .the
that it would be iMpOssi'•
attendance of witnesses ; but if the Right f°l%
Gentleman .would look at. the Bill,
that there was full power vested in the Commis-
sioners for that purpose—He did riot atteroot !cl,
deny,• that there was only a choice of difEcultie.s_i_n
this, case, because, whatever'plati was adopted, great
inconveniences would. ensue. It was at one titre
proposed to •send over. English MeMbers to It*l,
land, to try those Eleaions ; .he would fitr .
this plan he i.hu
not propose, because, if he did, he should .I.ll°st
probably be.in a minority: It was then suggested'
that Irish Members ought to be sent over to at;
those Eleaions ; but if there were five or six COP
tested Elettions to try, it • would take, neatly the
whole of the too Irisa' Members away froM their
,duty in Parliament to try them ; the objeal
reiodr se ;CI c
.1 le: 36E11),°.fiuedidellafii,
therefore, to. these plans were insuperable, a'
it was necessary to have recourse to some.other
itl:hraoobiu:goe shert; itrhte°;lbiatjwnedelat:hi der_n)fy.'lc'e
mode : the present one seemed to ,him the
means
in I
each of tine
that purpose, in the following manlier :
Contending Parties were to produce a list of Lhrei
Barristers, who were to be reduced hy ,striking °,,
to two; those two were to appoint as Chaitmawe
another Barrister, or,'‘ if they could not ,ig.7,.
thus appointed were to proceed
in the choice of a Chairman, lie was t;`) e)
appointed by the Committee. • The Comtniss'°rner6
_%;hich they were to transmit to.the Speaker of
giventhe
House of Commons, by whom it WiiS W be
tO
lions in England. He freely admitted
to
*the Committee, and upon that they werev_c,
Coeirns'f°s-ragliyisihsieo°ll,ll7.leabiyo n bric) It ITles,t,a!6_2:
decide, as in the, case of Controverted 1-'l!_e
Evidence was not so good as parole Evidence; of
it should be recolleeted, that all the pruccediog.stto
the Court. of Chancery were founded up' in wri..ol
in diet 'cl'•'l
Evidence,- as. were:the proceedings
side heard less
the
of the Exchequer, ad he never hear
. less cL)""
Decrees of those Courts were considered as courtg
thetci hhe tried
sebyoaf
,ftuarkyi;ngbutEl,tei
daepoperee,h e: dcct 'loll ‘ifuttitin'3vrirsisarilouconi';
burial, Oa
of three Barristers would be the .proPer°ston --
'to which to_ refer such e ques"-or'rea
these were the gruunds upon which he 011'110i).
this Bill, not because he thought it frCe if°c mole
jedion, but because it appeared to hint _to
,(:ige
tio
free from objek`tion
togatan any other, at the s', to this
he should be ready dopt any Aniendtne'll cold
plan, by which the great objet of this Pi
nor, indeed, ;hat it
be obta' • 1 with
Lord ..E.II,II)LE said,- he took shaine 1'63 011,
pletely
the. Wi l:ss, inconvenience.. - , bimielf
because lie neither knew tl., provisions of '.. evev
jag, till he came .;into the House.. He cle_ ;o'illi
should he 'glad if he could consent to this Bi 10
coin,
other Gentlemate in- thAt 11"u'e'
into a Cominittce, but it appeared to. hit'' s,, dor
ijr he 103 '; Bill,
WAS to he discussed thisrHoi
than a, i
which lie had Terhaps a greiner regar,,. o ye..,
ditary regard for ir) that he should oppose this_..e of
at variance with the Grenville ''‘' '--11
and if it was necessary, he would take the se" ye
the House upon it. The ohjea of the G.renv•'.*os
from the House of Commons at law, for th,eibtic
ACI was to take the trial Of Controverted hleeit,eur..
Po'se ofplaciog- that jurisdietion in a ,Coolri;iti '_!trce
the objet of this Bill WAS to enable the Colot'. tic
two'
to delegate its powers to .Others,. a thing ;reiesod,
had never heard of before, and whici:, lie c'. 0,4
was perfeCtly new in pr,;ttic. The pw. r0t,_,....„
Con:init tee was to be delegated to three
proleßarris:7l;s,
he had a great respea.for°Gentlemen in lit
110 w,
sioll in Ireland, as well as in England, hot
ever- respeCtable the Gentlemen of that pr 07.0 0
might- be, there were some in thit as wel ' jet
' ' • and Y.
other professions, that were a disgrace
Corn'
to it, ' no,
they , might be • the persons appoin'ted iis these
stoners ; and the House would observe, that bur
trace,
Commissioners were not only to take ev.---,idoce,
they_ were to state their opinion -upou the be jo.
Crown. If these Barristers were
Blini,r,r,iis;ternso,:vattahlelreeve,voutss,
moou,6l,,hrtortiosioni:icor,f
that kind in this Bill, on the contrary, he u ,the
i, b„
stood that these Barristers were to be f' R 1
) to-
i •to la
rnerelY he 1301
the evidence, he should nor tiook so ill of II e eviP
as he did, but they were not only to ta1.:.e.,•!-)- upon
deuce, but they were to give their uoin; upOr4
the effect of it, which was virtually to decy ti}
or
the question. Upon these grounds lie sit
to
pose this Bill.t, as
:Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he would sta— ea
shortly as he could, the reaionspors
why lie su!ig the
this Bill. It was certainly flue, that dur/,' clear
oog
discussion of the question of Union in TallithnY'b lit
.difficulties arose with regard to the plan .
05. its
to be adopted for trying Controverted Ele4l° illy
A tilt °
Ireland. The. difficult stmt existed, an.' 4.1 oat
could be adol"e 00
question now was, •W'hat pla'n cou
, "etices''
was attended with the fewest inOoPvol Wyse
plan could be totally exempt from them thisc
of in.
therefore must balance' the different ciegree ziopf.
wilattVer ',v:4- 1654
convenience. If no, regulation
ed, then the expence attending the tiiald infoCl,
Controverted EleCtions in Engiancl, .w°ul. 'di, e:(',
amount to: a denial of justice, becaos'- voul4
pence would be so great, that . Gt.Jltlo) 1,,,,, ex'
rather forego: their right, thao uoderte.oin`c"l,e ad.
pence, of maintaining it. At the same ti '_'eseng
' the Or _
to ca
f the• (I
witte that 'there were objettions
Bill ; lie was sorry that the necessity
_oe,:ic two.
required that the Conawittee should d .1(L)t dos
written rather than upon parole. evidence ; '-',i) dot
Could be. applied. The great objet. eiLefir of tithe
was an evil to which he did not see. any.ree'llwllife.
attain was, to give to Ireland the tult pot
,06sible.,
but that some restridions were neossaq •
Grenville Aft, ,with as few restrittlons as
tva' 5 00'