The Sun.
London, England, 1833-02-06 00:00:00

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.

Lord ALTHORP gave notice, that to-morrow he
would move the usual sessional orders ; and as to
the subject hinted at by the Honourable Member
for Middlesex, the proposition he intended to make was
that Mr. Speaker should take the Chair, at 12 o'clock,
and sit till 3 for the transaction of private business. At
3 o'clock the House should adjourn till 5, when the busi-
ness on the order books should be proceeded with. He
would also propose that there should be some alteration
in the number of times in which a gentleman might speak
on the presentation of the same petition. It was well
known that an Hon. Member might at present speak on
the motion " that a petition be brought up," also on
the question "that the petition be read," again, " that
the petition do lie on the table," and again, on the
question " that it be printed." Now his opinion was, that
every petition presented ought to be brought up and
read as a matter of course. The first question of which an
Hon. Gentleman would have to speak would be on the
motion that the petition do lie on the table ; and
again he might have another opportunity of speaking,
on the question that it be printed. Tone, instead of
speaking four times, lie would have an opportunity of
speaking only twice on the same petition, which he
thought was quite sufficient.
Some conversation then arose, in consequence of Mr.
Cobtiett misstating (as we understood) the nature of the
usual sessional orders.
The SPEAKER having put the Hon. Member right,
Mr. O'CONNELL said he intended to take the sense of
the House on the propriety of sitting as early as eleven
A.M. and not later than eight at night.—(Hear.) He
would also take the sense of the House on the best
means to be adopted for the purpose of making the provi-
sions against the interference of Peers at elections really
effectual. He would also take the sense of the House on
the hest means for making the bribery laws effectual.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would, at an early
stage of the session, submit a measure on the subject of
bribery.
The Marquis of CHANDOS, as we understood, asked a
question of the Noble Lord (Althorp) whether it was the
intention of Government to bring forward any measure
for the purpose of making any alteration in the present
state of the corn laws.

Lord ALTHORP said it was the intention of Govern-
ment to bring forward such measures first, in the pre-
sent session, as appeared to them most pressing. He
aP.• that the greatest danger in which the
H • at present was placed of not benefiting the
though he hoped it would benefit the country, was
the danger of attempting to anticipate the measures
to be introduced during the progress of the session. The
questions that would necessarily come under the notice of
the House were exceedingly multifarious. The House would
recollect that it bad to take into consideration the question
of the East India Monopoly and the question of the Bank
Charter, besides other questions of great impor-
tance, such as the Church Establishment of Eng.
land and Ireland, the question of commutation
of tithes, and various others, of which notice indeed had
been given by an Hon. and Learned Gentlemen opposite.
In these circumstances, and whilst so many questions of
such magnitude and great importance pressed upon the
attention of the House, he must say that, as at
present advised, it was not the intention of Government
to bring forward any measure relative to the corn laws.
Colonel DAVIS said it would be necessary that Mem-
bers should have %nine opportunity of perusing the ses•
sional orders before to-morrow.

Lord ALTHORP Made no objection.
The SPEAKER then said he had to acquaint the
House, that the House had been summoned to the House
of Peers when his Majesty had been graciously pleased
to deliver a speech to both Houses of Parliament,
and that, to prevent mistakes, he had procured a copy.
The Right Hon. Hon. Gentleman then read the speech.
At its conclusion,
Lord ORMELIE rose, and said—l rise, Sir, to under-
take an important, honourable but most responsible,
duty, of moving an humble address to his Majesty
on the gracious speech which his Majesty delivered
to both Houses of Parliament assembled, and a
copy of which has now been read from the
Chair. Though the representative of a large constituency,
lam sensible that the high honour which has been
placed upon me, has been bestowed on me,
not from any personal qualifications I possess
to fulfil the arduous duty, but from the opinions
which I have all along advocated. It will be gratifying to me
on this occasion, to have an opportunity of making known
the feelings and the opinions of those who have done me
the honour of sending me here, conscious as I am that
they are those of loyalty to his Majesty, of attachment
to the Constitution, and of reason and moderation in all
their expectations as to the happy results they look to from
the reform that has lately taken place in our representation.
Assured, therefore, as the representative of such
men, and having myself always given my humble
support to the principles that guide his Ma-
-1 jesty's Councils, having a firm reliance on the
wisdom and integrity of those men who direct them, I
have not allowed myself to be influenced by those feelings
of a personal nature, that would rather have urged me not to
take so prominent a part on the present occasion ; and
though conscious of my own inadequacy to the
task, yet, trusting to the indulgence of the House,
I have risen to move the address. I think,
Sir, that I may say that I am speaking the sen-
timents of a vast majority of this House, when I say that
the circumstances under which this House has assembled are
calculated to call forth feelings of joy and congratula-
tion, of loyalty and gratitude to his Majesty, for the
constant solicitude he has evinced for the welfare
of his su, jects, and especially for the wisdom and firmness
of his Councils in having strengthened and confirmed
the just rights and liberties of his subjects.—(Hear,
bear, hear.) Were custom and precedent wanting
on the present occasion, I think that these feelings would
lead us at once to the throne with our humble ex-,
pressions of loyalty and gratitude. lam confident
teat these frelin4s also actuate the people of this country.
Of the northern part of the country. I can speak with
confidence; for, from my own observation, I can state
that the fei lings of the Scotch are such as I de-
scribe, and believe those of the majority of the
country to be. I am happy to be able to
pp:a • k of the feelings of the Scotch ; for now, icir the first
time, can they be said to begin political existence.—
(Hear, hear.) Too long has a selfish oligarchy sup-
pressed their voice and oppressed their energies. They
now enjoy the rights and privileges of freemen, and
have shown by their conduct that they are worthy
to exerciae them. The British Constitution has evinced that
it possesses within itself a renovating and reanimating prin.
cipie.—(Hear, hear.) lam sorry to say that in parts of the
countrY, gentlemen have been pursuing a course of conduct
which upon calm consideration theywill see cannot be conducive
to the happiness of the people. I will put it to those who an()-
; gate to themselves the title of Conservatives, whether the
course they pursue is likely to allay any excitement that may
still exist in the country. Let them look at public
feeling. Let them look at the emphatic manner in which
public opinion has been pronounced, and judge for them-
selves which is the best course to pursue. Let them not
suppose that we wish to impair the institutions of the
country, or pull down anything valuab'e in them ; on the
contrary, our wish is by salutary improvements to strengthen
and preserve the Constitution which we all so much

revere.—(Hear, hear.) 'Clete is also another class woien -
wish to make still greater alteration in our institutions
than we have yet witnessed. But, I ask them whether
we have yet fairly tried those we have made. No doubt the
Reform Bill has some few defects ; but they are partial,
and may be easily remedied. As far as it has yet
reached, enough has been shown to satisfy me that it
will prove a lasting benefit to the country, and an im-
perishable monument to the fame of its promoters. I
regret that in one part of the empire there is a
dissatisfaction existing of a different nature from that which
arises in England out of the Reform Bill. Need I say
that I allude to unhappy Ireland—lreland, long op-
pressed by serious ills and grievances.--(Hear, hear,
hear, from Mr. O'Connell.) Can any man deny that
Ireland has been afflicted with grievances ? Does the Go-
vernment of the country deny it 2—(Cheers from Mr. O'Con-
nell.) Have not the men in whose hands the destinies of
the country are now placed, evinced throughout their lives
a sympathy for Ireland ?—(Loud cheers, followed by
shouts of "No, no," from Mr. O'Connell, which
caused a repetition of cheers from the Minsterialists.)
Mr. O'Connell repeated in a still louder voice the cry of " No,
no," but this being drowned in a shout of cheers, he ex-
claimed, " Blood, blood !" which brought a cry of " Order.")
Is it not notorious (continued the Noble Lord) that
the distinguished individual who now gUides the counsels
of the Sovereign, refused power and place because, at the
time it was offered him, he could not be allowed to carry
the great measure of justice which passed a few years
hack, after a long de!ay?—(Hear, hear, hear.)—
But not in this instance alone, but through-

out his whole political life, he bas evinced a sympathy
with the grievances of Ireland. That country, I say, has
been long oppressed,—has grievously suffered by continual
misgovernment.—(Herr, hear, from different Irish
Members.) But she has been vexed also by mis-
chievous agitation.—(Cheers, in which Mr. O'Connell
joined.) Oppressed, I say, by the fomenters of civil
discord—(Cheers from Mr. O'Connell)—by harpies who
live upon the ills of their country.—(Cheers from all
parts of the House, in which Mr. O'Connell again joined.)
Ireland has been tormented, I say, by men who, soaring
aloft like birds of prey watched the agonies of their
victim, and seized the fatal moment to fix their destruc-
tive talons in its side.—(Hear, hear, from Mr. O'Con-
nell. ) A crisis has now arrived in that country, for
neither property nor life are longer safe in it. The law is
powerless, justice is annihilated, and criminals, with their
hands dyed in blood, escape without punishment. In fact,
not only are the bonds of government dissolved, but the
whole social edifice is almost destroyed. The time
is come, then, when measures of vigour—(Hear, hear,
from Mr. O'Connell)—measures of force and power must
unfortunately be applied.—(Hear, from Mr. O'Connell.)
But with those measures of force and power we
must also apply remedial measures.—(Cheers.) This
being granted, will the Honourable Gentleman opposite
say that life and property must not be protected ?
—(Hear, hear, hear, from Mr. O'Connell.) Al-
most any law is better than no law, and we must
act towards Ireland according to the circumstances
in which we find it. If we merely apply measures of
force and power, we should not be striking at the disease
itself, hut simply at what I may call smite of its symptoms,
bleb, however, are of a nature to require immediate at-
tention. The agitation of the most mischievous question, that
of the repeal of the Legislative Union, has unfortunately
been resorted to.—(Hear). Now, whether we look to
the interests of the united empire at large, or to the
particular interests of Ireland, I cannot but he
surprised at the agitation of this question.—(Hear).
The Noble Lord proceeded. The repeal of the Union could
he supported upon no sound arguments of reason or justice.
He would a•k the Hon. Member for Dublin whether he
did not think he would act snore for the interests of Ire-

land by endeavouring to allay the agitation that now pre-
vailed there, and in cq-operating with that House in their
best endeavours to eradicate the evils that now existed, in-

stead of pursuing the course he was now adopting.—
(Cheers.) As a Scotchman, be looked to the solid ad-
vantages that had been derived to his own country
from its connexion with England, and he would no more
wish to see a Parliament in Edinburgh than in Dublin.—
(Hear.) He would ask those Hon. Members of the House
who supported the question of a repeal of the Union, to
reflect before they acted. He would ask them whether, in
fact, a repeal of the Union did not mean a dismember-
ment ?—(Cheers, and cries of " No, no")—a dismember..
ment of Ireland from this country ?--(Cries of " No,
no.'') It it did not mean so, he would ask them if it did
not lead to it ?—(Loud cheers.) The present Government
was composed of men who, throughout their political conduct
had shown their sympathy tow,rds Ireland. His Majesty,
in his gracious speech of that day, had also directed the
attention of the House—had manifested a paternal solici-
tude to that unfortunate but interesting part of his do-
minions—he had directed the attention of his Parliament to the
reformation of. the Established Church of Ireland—hut he
had directed them to look at it in such a way as
to promote the best interests and security of that reli-
gion which it professsd to be, and to the respec-
tability and efficiency of its ministers He had
also directed them to the question oh tithes, and to the
unfortunate scenes which had taken place- in collecting
the payment for the clergy. The Noble Lord felt confi-
dent that the pol cy of the present Government,
generally in regard to the internal affairs of the country,
would be guided by sound principles, and that it would
accommodate our laws and institutions to the times
in which we lived—to the improvements and advance-
ments that had daily taken place : they had already done
much, but much yet remained to be done. They had
reformed some of the grievances under which the country
had laboured, and they had laid a basis of prosperity and
happiness fur the country almost greater than it yet ever
°experienced before. His Majesty had graciously di-
rected their attention to certain ameliorations that
were to be made, and also to the Church establishment of
this country, with a view to the collection of abuses, as
r,gardeil the collection of tithes in this country, as well as
in Ireland. The Noble Lord felt confident that all those
questions would meet in that House the most rigid and
partial investigation, that such arrangements would be
made as to do away with those grievances which pressed
on the people, and that the House would promote national
education and the prosperity of the country. His Majesty
had called their attention to two questions of great com-
mercial importance—he alluded to the expected renewal
of the Bank and East India Company's Charters, and the
Noble Lord had no doubt that they would be discussed
in the spirit recommended by his Majesty, namely, with a
view to the general commercial prosperity of the country ;
for the less they threw impediments in the way of
the industry and skill of the country, the more
would that industry and that skill be directed in
a full and uninterrupted course. No doubt those
questions would be discussed with a view to uphold the
best interests of the country. Having now directed the
attention of the House to some of those topics which were
most suitable to be discussed on the present occasion, the
Noble Lord said he would conclude by stating that he
trusted the House would—as he was confident it
would—agree in carrying an bumble address to
his Majesty, couched in such a strain as ought
to proceed from the representatives of a free, loyal, and
grateful people, to a Sovereign whose greatest pride and
glory would be to concur in the Constitution of the country,
and to extend it to every part of his dominions. It was
his (the Noble Lord's) humble prayer to the Almighty
Disposer of all things, to grant a long life to his Majesty
--(Hear)—to enjoy the happy prospects which were
now open to his reign, and to contribute to the happi-
ness of his loyal people. The Noble Lord then read
the address, which was, as usual, an echo of the King's
speech.
Mr. JOHN MARSHALL then rose—ln rising to second
the address which had just been read, he had to ask from
the House that indulgence whichtihanitsti
evwtneshttaieesopt frequentlythem
—(Hear,
sr
ts:hh),
tsdegivenleaamrr:t
e—hatseott
should content himself with
e
ta;tfoh shortlymr
t moree
g b,ereersasttitarotssintoni
e,tgtni hmugheteii
length.
a.
hsrfieeraassdtoiriesp r addressingd
nfeosoret
tHe
discussednocues eto thatawouldn d
gnsroeota
measuret
ahpinkii
happily brought
itb unbecoming in him, standing up
manufacturing towns of the country, to allude in a few semi-
roofu
tfo
to an
awnliiiseshu
issue.—(Hear,
(blleceanr so ably
hear.) It must be agreeable to those gentlemen who
had offered opposition to the measure, to tied that
the machinery by which it had been worked, bad proved
highly beneficial ; the mode of taking the poll at elections,
and the duration of elections had produced great advan-
tage, and there was no doubt that they would find an
equal benefit in the more substantial part of the measure,
in the character of that House, and in the discussion of
great public questions.--(Hear.) He for one must say
how well satisfied be was at the change that had been
made in the constitution of that House, and he could not
deny himself the present opportunity of expressing his
gratitude to the Administration through whose exertions
ethooatotrgyrewatoomideaoseurit-ae hadioly, sooner
brought forward. Th
e
country have
ehad
arhee.
form in the House; but he thanked Heaven that that
change had been effected in a time of peace and tranquillity.
The Administration had acquired by its conduct the good
opinion of the country—coupled as that had been by a
greater attention to economy and accompanied
_by the ex-
ercise of such a policy in regard to foreign nations as was
consistent with the best interests of the country. They
had to regret that the question between Belgium and }Tol-
land was yet undecided, but one great point bad been
gained towards a termination of it by the conquest of the

alil difficulty t
kir No
. tut the ",et' Primed
Z:,:lit'.l. :;‘:!triturppit. HP treated the lloil!., 1,731;ci oppert i the ',Didier% ,
-. . _ Had r
the Administration in their line of policy, for it they had- oloeredilacsable eon&
taken any other course, it would have resulted ad- 'olloerdel,ntbes threo
versely to the best interests of the country.—(Hear.) wore t t" polleerna
He would not go at any length into that all-absorbing tee,
g: the fact
of
question which relitte,i to the union between this country 0 hign
anti Ireland ; but sure he was that a separation between the , zen,,,d :them for 1
two countries would tee ten-thousand fold more injurious to ' metedOe,, bill Of Ind.
Ireland than all the evils under which he admitted it at onttrytn 't
to Irela
present groaned. He begged leave to second the ad- lie of that'', I Will 01
dress.—( Hear.) alittly to badY (the
The SPEAKER then put the question, and read the he treat the tower
address. 4'lll „LI nrot ieeieh 1
Mr. O'CONNELL then rose and said he could not pan r:ntion the
concur in this brutal address.—(Cries of " Oh, oh!') fenau,i(l shelter in
He was sure it was a bloody address—he had expected .are of ti of its jam'
it. He repeated that it was a brutal address.—(Heari) it the
,rn''-they Han'
It was a declaration of civil war.—(Hear and a laugh.) -nd a e:;:tage...eti,r --
Aye, and that laugh would he echoed by many a wailing rolicein 'it'd erne
heart and weeping eye. It was such an address as they oad, an Mt": the-
had voted to America, when, after they had endeavoured ,f. cene Anothe.. d
with a brutal perseverance to oppress that country, they hen,, ealing i'tiroPart
sent their secretaries over there to write their history ia elehe, They lean,
blood ; but it ended in the defeat and disgrace of England. 0 Aintnan ; she "cc
or
btu, ore feree isis
—( Hear, hear.) He repeated it was a bloody and a brutal ang terl' bertele, and
address; and what was more, it was a most unconstitu- ion in th it. Thend
tional address ; and when he heard Members talk 'et it.
buffl
in that House of its being attentive to Ireland---
when he be erd the Gallant Officer opposite rob, C'Critv ? ifyo call
and the honest and talented Member for Leeds' doc.e klet to e.t.1,,,w
speaking of the attention that Ireland was to re" tesiest "Ur easV
ceive from the Eng ish Legislature, and how much ileeer soldiers '
better her interests would be watched over than I secunnnent a and
if she had a local legislature, he would tell hit
of
~opritiottthan
A ~,Ite eh% Zia th
countrymen of the laugh with which the expressions af the esw,lnUbaere i"I
his indignation at that brutal address were received. fie Whieflar'ts of see f°'
repeated, it was a declaration of civil war. Before the ietreta`utir viets.e me
end of last Parliament, he had warned the Noble Lora 44,1_17 has ha' 1
upon that subject, and he told him that the turol,tree it
e."."r.eady
measures he had pursued towards Ireland, would of rill the be'rraltola for
aggravate her miseries and her crimes.—(Heir, bear, %If; PeOple
of il
bear.) He begged that that part of his AlajetitY'e, Nasaittad Ire
speech which respected Ireland, at the prorogation or i'ttee• jaYs Wh
the last Parliament, should be read.—(Hear.) The No, i'ttlittenedagitatir
Clerk then read that part of his Majesty's speech tit Preeed tritatio_ or is
which his Majesty lamented the disturbances which of the to 4a ". the
prevailed in that country, notwithstanding the vigilance boe
~ leopivee. °ten
and energies of Government, and in which an intention liiy,"eannezio It h
was expressed by a regulation of the tithe system, and Btt%lt't)re....l W
rag,. there n r the
other measures, to benefit a country so blessed by whieliYi oreeth defy
Divine Providence. That was " blessed" by whom ?"'"
by Divine Providence. He would ask. was Scotland allterd Ilia '" n
worth so many natural advantages ? He might even the eto te Honor
ask, was England so blessed by natural advantages? Hear Pretertlttdi e. hien'
happened it then—the Right Honourable Secretary
,eiodr
4,11. stile', a
laughs—he has a right to smile—it is blasphemy---and it ...ore tts ther
comes home to PerifslOrthlree4t the
P
him—how happened it that in
country so blessed by Divine Providence,
was so much poverty—so much diatrese--so poor a peo- ca,i,„hiv '4 ?
pie, anti so rich a Church ?—(LouJ cries of " Hear.") °I Irrie it I,;'' as we
How happened it that after seven centuries of Englirh to wai,44(11,:. Pi""ni!
Government that country was still to be placed under slicets till wing his
the cry for blood ? Had it so happened that under IN y till
Itti,ll.‘4l, k It
tgation
the conduct of an Irish Legislature that state of thing' Pig in f,4; Y.
. And
had ex sted, it might then have been with some show uoirrltrer:!' durin
yotlror_lll44..erently
01 reason that they should reprohare them, and that C 4041150
e' in_ conser
England should be called on to legislate for Ireland' wee ;t teso_c.veri co
But in circumstances as they now existed, when, after
seven centuries of English legislation, such was the ;este 4115:1? of die
upon
.Atidri:l:llilnreflua
deplorable state of things, he threw the taunt
Government; and be asked why a country so blessed Hie se, Nina" wa
by Divine Providence was so cursed by man? He three' thee
..torlotl'au the
back upon them the crimes and the miseries of his coal' and C 'IN. 'Men t
trwre yomut I lei edd Ely , .
nlavl
ynhdi
eihnheertehae-ye repeatedthattcioieunild.
And
their
administer—thate itrh etireh ewmaess only
lay policy,
to I) e rte tohe4Lit for
du justice by the repeal of the Union.—(Hear, hear.) Erie grre,:_is not i
Why was Ireland delivered over to be the spoil of th" rive ile i'd Your
Right Honourable Secretary ? The Noble Lord or ~ate ' 'l,rev
posite, who is now content to do without the ballots Peet
title tiaoPliressior
Ira 151145114hlelitt11:1a0gilit a tic]]
has told us that it was because vigorous measures w'e'e 14,4' otteens of thi
trlraerlya,ndackbnecowomledegedtrantohuatil?
wanted to continue upon Ireland the infliction Of ti)eit. by 'alug let
crimise hitas
tithes. Well, then, you have tried vigour, but 150 °lltr,%44.,hich ti
The only question is, bow it has increased ?--(fivar4 eau,lPili hove no 1
not. on
pt_he(gee:rn.;
hear.) I understand that cheer.—(Hear, hear, hear" tithe tre,nse, ant
It is well that with your lips you prole'r
in lily
for sou
your regard for Ireland ; but that cheer, beg'-1 aly 'p g been al
ing and spreading as it does, shows what re' tsitsl4tierhalits Irel
attention you bestow on it. There are two 1"0: 144. rntains 1
of accounting for the progressive increase of trim poi., 4 ~,,,; it no
in Ireland. By your cheers, I know that Y° Of hit4e,,,`' odd Cat
mean to say that the way is to attribute it ta rear' k; elefEy of
to agitators.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Oh ! the gentle to
I dj 84eritY's Gm
opposite seem to forget that they last year were charge) tstZso, to my ai
with being agitators. Were they not told that the pe°P!, is ,41 it IbeY In
did not want reform, and that there would be no call for' of ttti'tee neh as the
if they did not agitate the country P They were charged ° 40 Np,t."4lt of ag
agitators almost in the same language that has been 3P; ti-,,t4tt;?uance of
plied to myself, but they treated the charge with conteMPf Ri.isoolA ne. wh,
as I now do. They say, moreover, that the cause ,:, ati' 'an Cyril (On
crime in Ireland is agitation. Now I say that it is ral:6, pottte,:e I think
government. You say that the cause is words. I say it le., en: Nll' 4 third
deeds. The Noble Lord having been flippant enough ro a a 14 topr such, eh.
tribute the increase of crime in Ireland to words illegal,' to t NI? agitation
of deeds, and having called me a bird of prey, had tLe prtlt iti. and man
i
singular modesty to ask for my support of ton 1'444 14° erreca
measures to be brought forward for the paciticati°,: thehieitttraeives fro
of Ireland. But what measures are we told are t°
lead a gioy he Writbstandir
brought forward? The Right Honourable Secretary I!‘ .
; 141 4 14tell assail
to-night given notice of a motion fur a Bill respectin.r, the t'ter'e' The
grand juries, and another respecting an increase live t4t,liqitty,
not
ext:
the constabulary force. Of the first measure, I can onaw ett Itnee 6°Y outra .
say, that it is a rhodomontade worth nothing, for the 0 to ttee, clia. g
on, th 'iiit ''C'et.
good principle that could be in it, that of repreeentati • . r,
~ ) cee t et,;t contrail
had been carefully excluded from it.—(Hear, bear'-',
Is an liitie'tt such a'
Surely, it is not worth while to ask for IS in 11:14'01'44g to tl
assistance of a bird of prey, to carry either measure.
~, gitt qiit 50 has
not .
would be well, however, before the Noble Lord done I.ttl.4th,Orthe ur.;
called names, that he should reflect upon what he bad 'fp. 'to ti tieeoene7,l.e'
and what has been done by the roan be abuses. ISTPe;, f0,,144d"01055, I.:e:'
he has done for Scotland what I have done for Irelandriro. errellti
tr) how
u,"l-
- he time enough for him to speak as he has done. ni tp'ngli,9 If Eonu,l
he found a faction in Scotland every thing and the fre°l3: beets 4011 th„ g'
nothing? Has he raised the people from their abaserol; erseltted : pee
and placed them in the situation now occupied hY t • lag? II in 1.81-IPP
Irish Catholics? When he has agitated, as lam "Pr; ~:°l4,lio* tio"ehl
to think I have done, and with as good effect, when . I,:i tr .' tie,r,°„4 WC
has done so, let him speak, but till then, whatevi r rct:)o tone IlliNtl'itker""
be his rank, let him not presume to assail a better a? E, 1511etet 4tsenae°d
than himself.—(Laughter.) It is one of the orielSo bee! treetstiona, ,es
tunes of Ireland that every popinjay that walk' "oi bte4 4,,t'qtined -a-1
streets, if he can string fifteen words together, is, Pre Cr:,stitir,Liedee „g
content unless he vents a sarcasm upon Ireland. -1. :li It Gent!
'INCH •.'
rio eel, . ni
ject the terms which he applies to me with indigna 0,,,
thst lotion the (
and scorn. They prove his disposition to be injor•°oo Nehelbier,nde white
but they prow nothing more. What be says of ale
eve
kr, 4 1,, a, to be n
the subject of agitation is neither bright nor novel ; to ter! 111;4 Menne
term which he has used, and far more, was familieds
f gre:it4 tghtcd td ft,"
me during the time of agitation. All the Noble L' to eg," iteok the ma
metaphors, and his birds of prey, are light, compared, CetehttleaY Magi,. g
some of the epithets to which I was then accusto Fro
eOlitl by
who
we
The conduct of his Majesty's Government will cause -0
A I bnttl 1. Pesviere strut
to agitate again. Ministers are agitating for me, 0- e bse srti 'ona
se' 0 • op - Tett
more than ever. Ireland has arrived at that state of i° had lteoi f. The
lion which generally precedes the political death of a stag . tt tilk ,:t4t Omni 0
a state which can be cured only by the Bingo!: t Licit tot,.! of the
remedies of civil war. The repeal of the Union 'col iet Posti°l tell:,
tti
measure which is now necessary, not only for the goo. thertile big the Airr
of Ireland, but for the safety of the King's Thr,°ol Sot; ltlietts heiee g
—(Hear, hear.) Honourable Members last year wlO 1104,:tkty.,94t at
in the habit of talking of the repeal as a thiagroi unitnti,l'itite.°4; ',eta:
distant—so improbable—so impracticable, that it Otiel they .4',:it(' Itla the i'l
deserved a moment's consideration. This year all plop 113 that an
in Ireland are reconciled to it. Formerly the Right 1„Of the t:t 4:4 in Psi':
Secretary used to talk of it as a subject which would ft:, ir one o-ntnt " He her,
become a serious question ; nobody now denies tbatos'oe Prbt,t,4l.4 :01tleipie
a subject which requires discussion. It would be r,l/i a to,: og, sere hh
advisaele in any case, if the subject must be put d'ae,est agaiesrl'itis ?li the A,
moral truth, and not by force. If any man will eaYbe ir dividoeiN iropenie
agitation has produced the present state of Ireland, il !ft h nt': entPoer.
totally ignorant of what every Statesman ought t 0 re rig reercet„, of the
—the history of the country which he governs' oil 0 °toe N. 'en that
whale history of Ireland proves that agitation has 00d, . nder)thlt'ere 'hese
the cause of the evils in which it has been involve d ' !tneoet; t optlis, a,
have proof, ancient and modern, of this fact : an ter:f .Inristltot',stittatioil
I am told otherwise, and have to do with ,• OnlY to
eine „f still
who cannot have read even their own hist°1001111; trnPertytitein those
they be right, and can so prove it, then agitationeeete 2 of to niteal tea
t . be put down ; if not, is it just that Eiigland
r,./ ;I.lsn Litt t!,it: poor
once more be called upon to send an an additional l° Of: I" eel his P thin
fi Iv se 44
oayonets and of bullets into my unfortunate country •le ,r fieori feepi 'dress
verning Ireland by force is not at all conducive t°,, iii ha '`liigi,trfor sng po
quietude ;it is not a new discovery, you have berei rcaY die ste ,0413 a
verning Ireland by force for 400 years ;it was the,:iii 61 inin,ti'thtt
or It n
the reign of Hen! y VIII. I have not found an Bog!' eor, t.l,,'",ry I,te 4_l late
with whom I have conversed on the fact, thot "ere ,i,"ze c eve
an Irishman was not a King's subject till 16114", rt o rie„PPcinte; .1, ,ttn,rl
tyrannical reign for Ireland, for a considerable!, te;) fhP:uted nY e; Tel
it was the reign of James the First. More blood aaertio. being mere el' r
spilt, and there have been more human lives ea
• to; iirs, still;: lsotttle‘
un-ler this Government than under Stafford's admiotllee Icir tios,. , 4111;:i 'lie, ''
Every post brings fresh accounts of some miser :, ~p, a
Ov f Inettin.4l44,V) as
man assassinated by a policeman or a soldier, aret
o.eoj 04 the en--g of it' litef
or murdered by some miscreant at night. s fry. then 0,4_ lerfe
newspapers contain an account of such a tourder•;ogirier! esoc 'll th,kt
county of Mayo, some men were shot lately for "!,,,g;,,,, cr.es. rd JOHN
'
O'" P 'oer. ‘itiN
song in the presence of some policemen. Moe Woe: 11„ It;
stabbed to death in Queen's County, for an eV! 010,0, - shbtnit
offence. At a meeting in Kanturk, policerneo.iilem"
Clothes were sent among the people, and the 001“