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London, England, 1805-05-03 00:00:00

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li 4, Orri:ni of rinY. . The`.,-; had ini;trol'tl.ll4.- io'l') the '
cot:fuel of the il•cki yaids •ihtnad ; as' it appeared il. the cxpeuce cf. r.-oairs in Antigua, where net
sflinn hail taken place, had been three times as great
4 in the Me.literratlean, ~vltere so many brilliant en.
lilement's fad.? t4ken }dice. 'Fite), had to inquire re.
Azaing the pitteltae of 50,000 stand of arms by the
Tionpurt Board, 'reported by the Surveyor to have
been utifit for'setv ice, and not wide to pattern ; and
whether any Perion in office Iptd been a sharer in `the
profits, as rumours ai;ere aflo3t on that head. hal also to i-They
ii'lluire into the Proceedings at
e"lttwoi, di vi rein ti ve to Green w iCh 13odors'
Asylum. He
1:00 ,stated what the Cornmissiotiers' bad done, and
what they had to do ; -and it• was incumbent tin the
~,l(ittoOlelter tletri from, the attacks of th!se who
;tie'i') the !Wait of throwing slurs on
,their con-
'At If they did not receive eVety assistancefroln
tiro 1104)e, their labours would be inetraual. lt.
thelaight 1 hai. Gentleman had an) material olliec-
tiMi diem tp the oimmissioners, . he woull mention ~
ii riot ke mi,,lkt.he silent ; but f
'O.-notts 01,itaions to them, the fioti,e. icould.there notwere be
3t
31°4 t() find five into cipable of discharging the ,
.1
uinteA of the.lur`i‘h
uthrnissiuu ; at All events they should
i"quany persons that should d ire to thwart their
-ities• '1 he Hon:Gentleman conchided by
moving-- .
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1.1.,h4 ie"ived: That it ap xars to this House, that the Com.
1:r..7.74e.r 4ppouto, I b; rite Ad of the 4.1,1 cit. 1-tnt MaiestY,
untllt.inold exanuniug into any irregula.rities,,
tlCtilhat any exist in the Deportment ot the Navy, Piave, '
itC,44.4l)PeArs trona . their Reports, exerted °themselves
lit C, ability :Hid Inrtitu.le, and that the whole of
titilricontluoi'il the an'tuotts duty entrusted to them,, has en.
4ittll'enl to tite grail t tide, approbation, anti ineOuragcnicut
t, k tet4e.
thae,,n,'..l4l'l, that the said Resolutions be transmitted to the
, "ut the said Qtimmission."
un iii, •
' . qUestlon being put.
. . Ti .C 8
he 1 - ICELLOT? of the EXCifEfIUER said,
cot l'uld Advert briefly •to a part that Bete{ been'onne.
I.otl,4lll,ii:V,i'licl.ieti upon by the Hon. Gen:lerO3P. he.
' 5'.."114 offer a few observations on the Motion.
which he had ..n sluded. The Hon. Gentle..
instituted/11tl114ti wiled, thaLt '4r!.‘coininission which had beco
. 40 home years since liid full powers to corn.
ititersrins to answer such quest ions as shonld 4 "WA-
er thlenl eclat answer
to, ahuse3. From a consideration
410,,, e.PrinciPles of the common law of the kiri.g...
in,,'itt had not then b.!e., thought nee: scary tic
citel4-u" huctl ' chwirsinto the f3lll as that which
Theill—nst'n6es made expedient in the latter instance.
tie lim. Gentleman had also styled the Bill a gen_
h :11,1441Y, illii, hec,tuie, it did not extend to the
til',;4l °I lilt ttifferritt offices. But the fad was,
,'at
(lewhich of the: Bill was to search into. the
4ll'eb txisled in the inferior and stibordinate,
414Pcattmentr; anti when he had proposed the inea.
4bie! it hail been viuichtik opposed by the tlonour.
that it and his friends, on• the ground
ar,., it would interfere wantonly with, the buiiness
.1" 1446 Fl i 1 1 ' I • ' Ice these
w1te,,1., . ..e.tao taougilt it right roma
14t,i1 1441 wills regard to the iiiloBlooS thilt liiid
itlit ritatt.c t 0 that Atl. With reg..td to die, im.ne-
• it sll, 2134111(4n, it was not.itis intention to interfere if`
lint he I), tt the getl,'l'4l• sense of the House to agree,
COrlsiler 4g..,11c..tve to .sul an i t very I.l.ortly s..)rne
opiniciii at,"" to it. Ile could not be exactly of
uhitz tin't this was thr time fur suck a Motion.
%hole' of`ti,t_h:'9l;ht would come,
,here.`.. after t.h,
or) torn` int 'kepis!" s ,Horrid be made, or :founder{
e tihle
.Alistrotl, such as the one that had,
Not 4:1,1'4 by the flonourable Member, and
tiit,,l. Ibueh upon 'the details the Reports eon.
Ile reeiti;fleling tin the ehara&ets 0C individitals.
enntirii,,,t!:ilt"l tirt the Vote of Thank.s tit the
Sittnlittr ers 01 Accounts had been pas,ed in, a .
411. iv, 4 the whole Hotie, ti, which at the rime
ferrety '`.,Y"l.s they lid then made had been re-
n, it..it was erne, however, that had matte
bee,, ift`riotts afterwards ; ton only.. ue Report had
the jkulne Pre,gtit case taken into considermict" by
tine lieiei• From alt he heard, and saw, .and
time'
if; t Ic'"tilt if, i)ponihe wlli,le, pr!tper to con.
kitglesi ,e'e entornissioners, who, he atlioltied,
verr,,,itet'l('od plans, -WhiCli it Was the dury• ot. p,,..
ti rotor 4,14 of I). l',
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31' whf,. , , aiiiltnelit to carry into eired.----'
h, -qleVer • -I,siler !night be Ili: Ille(111,-S of the. Connis..
~ • 5, he 4... i .‘
els4te ; , 4. )y no intim lintiod to five tip his
fury „Ju‘Tonent, 11t it.,reqei. [lilt it was lite.
, ‘ ui ilt, ri . . . ~.,. ,/ ,
War h , c ‘-tiolnusstoners to investigate abuses
Nvih„l„' e"racy, diligence. .and' tiersevria oee, and
th • -t 4t0., 1,, , - . .
nit'it 54003,',
t,N i'l prrmons, whale s'er alight be
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0111,."' • 15LIt whilst he thought it their duty.
gttss..,,f ills' .1" hiihloo light any thing in the. pro.
iltirq the rust
iroVC.I tigation of. abuses which might
44,1
0,,.. Lit.,4raoee or
an' individual, he th,ught
1:
~ 'it the.,
... . .
.
tile adv J, 'iuglit nut to deprltte that individual
tht antage of any metros of 'justification which
If the is tif. his err • ' . - - ' fr• 1 I
. e, L.,,, , curnstar;ces or situation a or, e, •
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thajt 11,;" Ptenbtortly dist:Lied any circutristanceo
; ..altere , •
111(le't ton,iik '. while the matter was still under
, 'Pott, 1,,. :a,1")", tilt] before they
,had made' their
?t, in. it/0 Inch the ounduti.of an individual had
Ile ttnil44(l . 11. °Jed of observation and continent,
that not help ma i
cot:t4ttenti„,l
I, • y nz, that they had not paid
is itlied it, ) that part of their duty, •tv'hich he
ii4,,,lit, isiri;,,,ll't the in: it ebbetitirli, that they
_..l4et was
._ 7`l! e itihtatlOC. in which their. c-in.
Itti
ht"uit,,,lonsistent with his view of the line
Ic, ilithe to . 4.tf e Po.rsUcti was, and he shottld leave
v•iePott 0-1413.4vugt, IhAt wilco they were, to make
,44.41, they
ab '1,3 t‘' 4ffe6t the charatfter of an indi-
bioet to the "e their Report without giving any
th:t 4 lii„
,Putr. He did' not deny that they
ti:!: equid. bet at the:truth in the best manner
t:1 14ht thi hut' in fairness to the individual, lie
) the . the ought to h
atr,t, Parts or tr. • —Lye put min on his guard as
0.. 1 lii% vh 'elf Report that weulti be liktly to
an
hill,. , "at-ICI'. (loft
. .
mean 1 •
the ir hmAttl in
4„_, could not to put hint
hir, 4'lls but ti".'
, 1 .
they MS lit enable hint to evade
4 info - etc,
14 ta,.,,‘", 1, t'ot ter ,t, wreoiYertn,,;il di e_ii:i Report to give
etu-,,i-‘ hie cti„,._ . enable lieu 14 be,prepared
eo
~ char with This Tuts cett 4,1,1 k. would be more,
. ;:tric4te c lu3l Ice tii the party, than to le,t ve him
;:s 1 tits% „ ','"'lf from its elects in such manner'
-..1,,,,._ .(.111,4
... ir.
if .
*lli !" t°
1' in) 'Y
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" " should be Alter% a rds wide
et • wit .
Plan, • tZht 11„ hour anY pies' tows
.notiees. and,
tiflt,4,tl In j,..,
~e been obviated by preceding C.
trivtri" "lu'qtation of this observation he
1 '111)',•t t" a eireur4 • ',.
~,,,i,,ii
lj t of
4t,ttie . SlAlii..,e th.it had beer' lately
discu ion Thematter he al.
the,, i:. witi ti. .
,SI, .
_ i I unpressiun vi d h '
lid io,
,Ir, 4, that
~ , pro tree . one of
iviii,t4t4l. n.,.1 the Me i.omptroller , 01 the Misty
l'"vY m 1
k the k0w.,,. , Ilex to cart . purposes,
~eilt,t. ~.,
14 r yin irk
the 13Jard of

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Admiralty. The eiplatottion had suite removed
that impressioni and if that eXplariatton had been
received previous to the gory, the eutpeqoent
eussion would have been unnecessary. Another
circumstance whiCh he *should advert shortly to,
was not calculated to meet his approbation. The*
circumstance he alluded to was, the statement in
one of the Reports relative to alletig,ed frauds, with
reSiseCt to casks, at Plymouth. A prosecution had
been commenced, and the Grand Jury of the County
of Devlin threw out the fill. The charge
rested on the: authority of , a Letter from an
Agent to the Commissioners, and on that autho.
city they had reported that there was reason to
sus,seet that the Grand Jury had been tampered
with—That a Grand Jury of the County of
Deitin had beett guilty of perjury !
Io addition to ' these circumstencee there were
scone nyers on the Table which had been de,
livered that day, and contained explanations relative
to another of the. Reports. These he had looked
into, and though he cnuld' not tell whether the state.
hunts they contained were true or not, the circuoi„.
stance of their being at variance with the Report
rendered them worthy of attention, and necessary
. to be explained before he cOuld agree that ohe Corn.
tnitsioners had merited the .thanks of the House.
The Paoers related to a fact that constituted the
main point in one of the Reports, namely, the high
price at, which Stores had 'been purchased in the
West &dies ; and thiS 'fad was accounted for its
the Papers •on the Table,. which stated that twit
veisels that. had been sent out with Stores.. had
been lost, and their loss, had -consequently ren.
tiered it necessary to procure Stores at any price.
there. The House
,would judge whether, this
matter did not deserve explanation. This charge
was contained in the first Report, and the Ceamiso
sinners of the Navy were ready to prove the cause
as stated in the Papers.' Another circumstence that
did pot meet with his al;prObation was, that Me.
Gambier; one of the Navy commissioners, his evi,
dence waa'not cOrrealy taken down ; as'also happen.
ed with respect to the eXainitottiers of a Clerk in the
Office, who had beep exatithied at lengthoand into
st,ltose evidenee many inaceuraciei had been intro.
diced, bottle of which had beets curreOed by 'ct
reference to' the private Minutes of'the Comatiso 1
sinners, though the correclicins had not beets inserted
in the Appendix to the Repot t. These particular
points he had thought it 'right to mention, not with
any intemperate feeling, but as the 'fair ants honeSt
giound of the disapprobation which heflottl expressed
of.some parts of their conduet ; the tiotie and the
Public would judge whether well orillluitndal. He
should not trespass longer on their attention, but:.
should leave, it to them todecide, whether or nut
the C.mmisioners were entitled •to the Vote pro.
posed. •
Mr. FOX would not go into an examination of
all the observations of the Right Hein. Gentleman,
but merely touch on a few of the leading points.—
The Right lion. Gentlemen did not stem to be
aware that it was Only tootle experice of the Stone
EX.petittion that the tiatiof Sr. Vincent thought the
inquiries which were addressed to !lbw were dired..
ed, and not the mere 'knowledge ot the existence of
the Expedition, which: at. alse,tirne was a tact ut.
.general not riety. There were many material cir.
ctimsrane;es developed in the first Report and its
Appendix, w-istch the Right Hon. Geolleman says
are;highlY irjutious to the 'charades 'of 'many per.
sons, • Now this Repolt hid been made nearly two
years, and yet the Gentlemen implicated acquiesced
in if ; .no -ohjectiOti, was; made to it till the present
moment, when, to serve a teinporary purpoec, it
became convemieot to throw discredit on it. The.
House would see the tutility of this accusation, and'
What little effedt it ought to, have against the Vote
Of Thanks proposed by his lion. friend. 'lt was
certainly possible,` when al.. the Reports of the
Commissioners of Naval Inquiry slaouid he sifted,
that parts might aNear not altogetherlatidable. If
they were trivial they would thrill no solid objection
to the Vote of Thanks; if they weresseriouo it it
could be proved 'that the
.CooamiSsioners used unfair
means fur the purpose of injuring the charaftet u(
any individual, they ought not' to- be alloWed to
remain in the Commission.' To 'vote Thanks to
them, and-tti vote. their cootinuation as Commis..
eioners, were precisely the same question. To say
that those inen ought to be re.nanted ita-such an inf.
portant office who did not deserve the Thanks of
the House of Cdmmons..tor what they had alreadyeffeetrd,
effeeted, was indeed' an extraordinary assertion,
Whenever die Kciidtts already delivered in; by the'
Commissioners, and those which wouidooson be, de.
livered in, slh;tild come to be 'examined, lie Was con-
vinced that the more stiottly they weft examined
into, the greater applause would they be Sound to
merit. .The only arettnneut that appvared to him at
all plausible against the Vote of Thanks was, that
the public opinion had been: already expressed sci
strongly on the 061(0, •that no tribute. from, that
House was neceisary:i 'but the word "ieocourage.
turns,'' ititroluced toto his Hon. Friend', il.fLition;
sudicietoly obviated this objeCtion. Let the House
feC,dicet whiwi the Commissioners had to encouuter,
and .1t necessity they' lay, under for this enc u.
.rwroeht, Great as the difficulties had, been under
which ix ,rd St. Vioc'eott had sosuceessiully tun ,ht
the battles of his Country abroad, they were not
exceeded by thethitioilties with winch he was eur,
rounded in contetleitog with the enemies of his..
Couistryott home. The objeitas of the inquiries' ot,
ti,eCoirhohsioners %vete. ni.a. mere sobaberto tti
but the must powerful melt ,the State; and
it Was necessary that they should feet, they had on
their side the gratitude of the 1-1, use for what they
had already doite, and their assurance of protection
in what they might hereattes do.
The Cli4o/COLLUR of the EXCIIEQUE4, iii
trswet to Ho observation matte by. the lion. ,Gen.
dermal, informed him, that very Soon atter the de—
`livery of the first Report., the Navy [Lard had,
(drawn up a NietitOrlUi tU 2ai_l 1
i‘ini,nt on the stititct
but that tliti COmpticiller of the .N. 144 finding that
Lord St. Vincent conaidered soy wish to boVe it
taken into etimitietition as an `;4l7iunt, no MOtion
V) that tired ii)!As

Mr,'Fnx oi),,ervcd, tliit there was another. quar-
ter to which Nylication' might batty.. 'teit rp,4tie.
Sir 4. 8. 11 431 J iv sAitl, it Ihe Kern-is- cs:n.
tattled what Ge,,tiemon, asserted .it
and the. tact cotati hL t:ruve:th the Nivy .11,).4rJ

ought noi to .he perm tied to exist an hour: He
could assure the House, however, that after-the it)
pe,rance of ;be First Report no time was lost, but
applioation.waisiostantly made to the First Lord Ott
the Admiralty, to alloW the• Navy Board to.put
an answer. When the Vibualllng B')ard, former
period, had ben arraigned for irregular pradliees, a
'Committee had been appointed, on whose Report the
House wouldnot at until they had referred to the
Board for an answer to the•charges brought against
them and although, in some points, their consluft
had not born completely defensible, they had int
partial justice done to than. The reply of the
Firsti tc; the application that had been made to
him was, that such a measwe would nut suit his
purpose. He theta desire-if alit tie time_ CO. consider,
and eventually refused his consent. Feeling cx.
tremely sore .at this, .the Honourable: Baronet
Waited himself on Lord St. Vincent, stating, that
,he was on his way to the !time of Commons,
for the purpose of giving notice, that early in
the ensuing Scsiion he would move that the Re.
port be taken into consideration, with a view that
a reference might be made by the House to
,the
Navy B ard fur their answei- The Noble Lord
replied, that the Commissioners of Nay al Inquiry
had been instituted at the suggestioo of the Board
of :Admiralty, and :that it was for. the Board to te.-
coMmend to the House the proper tithe fur taking
their Report into eottsideratioo. The Hon. BarOnet
complained to Lord Sc, Vincent of the oppression
which such a delay occasioned, • hut without, effdOt.
From that day the queStion• drop ed. may'
be asked, if a change of Administration' has ex-
ited for Inuit than a twelvemonth, why has not
the consideration been propOsed during that time
He could 001 y say, in answer, that'. he had under.
stood it was the intention. to bring it forward in
the course 'of that 'time. the Navy B mrd wished
• for nothing sf) much
,as. an opportunity of justifying
themselves, and all that they now desired. was, that
the !louse would suspend their jodgiunt tultil that
opportunity was affurtlecl ditto.

Mr. ROSE .commented on the observations of
the .Hon. Gentlelll.lo, With leg:lrd to the. third Re.
port, and drfended the con.lti,-.3/4 of the Gentleman
(Mr. Taylor) to, wht:m that R/port iiituost exch.).
sively referrerki• 'than whom there never existed a
more unfehiseacliable char.ntter. • The Hon.. Gen.-
tlernan went into,a long -history of the bl,;cklcon.
trail, and completely exculpated Mt. Taylor
from the charges that it been adduced against
hint. The C ,mmissioners had instituted a catalpa..
FiNon betivec3 Mr. Taylor's blocks ,and those made
by Mr. Garnet, which, according to thein, turned
cutitt favolr of the.latter; but he had the authOrity
of several tiperieneed Naval pricers, particularly
Capt., naltalllS, Of the to say that Mr.
Taylor's gore infinitely superior. It had been said,
on the other side, that an order had been issued froM
the. 'l'reasury fur fnifi-ling a.c•mtratt for so,ctoo
stand of defeaive arms, at .in exorbitant price, and
it had been broadly asserted, that some cme ofice
Waa sham in the prufits. The. present Prime
Minister had, the merit of having put an end to all
Conitaas,- which, ut'ider formes "G ivernineots, were
granted to the personal friends 40111.1 GSvcrninent,
Duting .the-last War not a single Co.ntrlld of that
de•ieripti,n was signed. The ,vhote of the business
was, trat.saticti by the I'ohlic lii)ards. The lion.
Gentleman here confirmed the statement of Sir
A. Htinund, as to the repugnautle %%hien the Earl of
St. Vincent ex;,restril to permit the conii.tet a: ion of
the Reports ot the Commissioners to be brought
der the .cOnstderatian of Parliament, He hdd hiut.
4ell.g,.tie to the N dite Lord, and suesrested the
propriety of this pr ceeding, but in vain,: C),I the,
whide, he th;:ught the condoet of the Coto,olvdoners.
of Naval Inquiry, particularly with regard to Mr.
Taylor, was neither fair nor gentle,'
Admiral M. 31 K 11.1.11 assured the House that
his Noble Friend wriuld he .happy at all tiMes to
court nor did be fear ahe base attaciZs
those whose nefarious continet he had exposed to
public view. With all his disposition to deny the
truth of the eircutrtitaners detailed in' the Reports,
would the Hon. Cornpirriler:say, that that on the
Amaranth ? For the sake of the
(Thuntry, he wished that tilt fael; were' not ?en
thonsand times worse titan those Reptltts
ed them to be; he %visited that the gross negligence
.of the I 1111. Gentletnan and his Coileagues—.
The SPEAKER called • the gallant Adintral to or.
der.

Admiral NI Atom AM concluded . i4l replying to
Mr. Rgse's °hart vatiois on the 13locic' Contrad ;
and contended that the co duct of ;fir. T4y lor ;LA
been highly.cen4orable.

Sir A. -fiAmor:D and Mr. Rose severally ex.
Mr. JEFFERY CWltendett,.o;rat whatever might
;he the portion of pr:iise to..whlch the Navai Cont.
missioners might he supposed to he eft:idea, he
wat still hold enough to say, that the affairs of ttte
Navy weri never worse c.ini!oclM than during the
AtiMinistratiim tit Lord St. Vincent—not only the
Noy, lltit the witole Commercial part of the (.7...0rn.
inanity were loud in their complaints against it. "
The ,SFEAKRit 011....Er4•,M, that the i Cit
meta or the r :stn.
Gentleman diet 1:0t aiTly to the
question now before 'the t-tiuse. •
Mr. IVILiI t?k() RCA' was really to atitti4.the
great benefit% that had atr•ady acciii•d fr,,m the la.
nnurs Of the Nlv..4lCominiisioners ; l,ttt at the s.ime
time he must retviest, that in mercy to those had
not fully informed thetose.ciesof the comer; 61- LII
the Repotti, that the words " the whole"
condoet of the Cionqiis,icners, tnight ire omjil:cl
the Motion. There ixere n.)w eleven of the Ripnr,s,
nutty (41 them extending to eonsidetable length, he-
tOre the House,- and scarcely ant' hut the Tenth had
yet undergone 4 due iiivestigalion. Indeed the
omistion of these wares would give in mdaning
'to the Vote of the Hou., and at the same cirne rtns.
der it inzrre worthy lite acceptance at th;)se whom it
WAS intended to commentc, than if,tst ood in the man.
net in which it was originally Cum.
mls totem u,4l,iubtedly deiectcd very great abuses,
and had thereby rendeeed very iignaf service to the.
Country; ar.d on that gri,uncf tie lett' them entitled,
to dn. *Fhankf t s of House and the gratitude of the
Country. He hoped, IriWevrr, :that nothing he
how otretel to the eansiirtiork of the lion,e woutd-
pr ,Lioci7 any division of opinion ; tor hi, threw out
the ctosideritt ion mealy to the contiu,'A the

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1-..t!uqc ; nat in the least to det:a from tite mo`lat
of the Commissione-ts: Nina of their_ preccedings.
yet remained Ri tie eLtn" ined and discussed and, 4.
rn;ght, perhaps; hereafter occur; that sokethink
would he coniidered in a light that might ittd'uca
the House to eitpress an opinion contrary to i.vhat the
pres*ent Motion called-upon them unreservedly to -
declare. This was the only motive that prompted
hini to suggest the ornissinn (lithe words. lie4as.rea::
dy to ref eat, that in his mind the Alation so amend:.
ed would have not only a more Oistinet meaning,
but must ptfove more acceptable to the Coinmission,
cry themselves. Under that impression he should
now move that the words s+ the whole of" be struck
out of the Motion.

The Q.lestioti so auianiiiti, being pat from th'e
Chair,

Lord HeismlttEi approved of the Amendment,
And contended that the-original Machin required the
Eloise to gig further thanis was entitled to go.
Mr. WiLnFRFlRcit, in further -utplanation of
his Amendment, observed, that if any error should
hereafter loe detettcd in thecontlud of the CoMmis,
sioners, the House would be in a manner bound so
far to retract ine,tsul'e of their vote.

ATIORNAY •GE 4' AAL rather approved
if the 'Amendment than of the original Motion,
though' it did not exactly correspond with his idea
of the matter. >There were eleven Reports before
the Efoue, and only `one of them 11;1.1 a, yet heen
examined. There were even several Papers now
before she Hose ciuite fresh from the pres, which
could nut yet have been examined, but which, how.
ever, were representedis-urgently calling i x
urination. The Vote, therefore, in his mind, should
not he general, as fresh materials might hereafter be
prAduced in detenee-of those %sillase eh .ratters WZie:
7!ift:Cted by the Reports of the C,lnmissionirs. As
the Amehdinent seemed to him so int,.t. toe As.
lion in the sense Which he thought it should be re,
ceived, it :;hoold have his concurrence.
FOX haid,•that it the words the '' whole
their cotidoil hurl been •onlitted originaby in the
Motion, the omission of them would not be mate.
tial but.when it was tot tied to omit them, the
whole nature of the Motion. was changed, si,tl up.
pe.ired to him quite objedinnable. • The litaise
could not underttand by the 'Motion that they were
appr.ive of every thing.• that migh.t be e,ntained
in all the Rep iris. IN3ne of them had as yet been
under ciinsideratinn but the Tenth; even parts of
that Report were not yet decided on, since villa of
!hem had•only been referred to the consiilers.
tion of a Select Committee. -The words of the
Motion sufficiently explained the extent to witielt
the Thanks of the House should be carried, since it
said, that as far as appears from the Reports; the
Conimi,,sioners•Were entitled to the thanks and'en,
couragernent cif the House, for the diligence, abi.
lity, and. fortitude, with which they had executed
thearduous task comoitted. ta.theit care. It such
minutim as those- suggested by the Amendment, and
by the reast,nings•'utged Suppert of it, had been
habitually attended to the }-I.me would never have
beers abk.tn pass a Vote of 'Thanks upon any con.
duet, lio,tiever meritorious. In his opinion, if the
Commicsionere were not thanked in the terms of the
original Motion, it would be bEtter not to thank
them at all.
Mr. LANCHAM was sorry the, Amendment hied
been m.)ved ; but if An Amendment was to be
moved, he should have preferred the previous
queition.
Sit W,,EtpoRD Confessed, that it was with re.
gret he should give a negative to. the Motion ; but
as he conk rated .some things ip the condust of the
Commissioners, while he commended most of it,
he could not ,concientiously consent to a vote of
unqualified approbation. •

-
LOrd,HENti as for moving, that tie .House
do now ati.j..urn, ai in 'his mind it WAS premature
to come to any V.,!te at present respeeting the con.
dud dl the Cummissioners. Alter some be6itation;
and ;livening to consult with the. Members around
him re ,peaing the propriety of such a mf,lit,n, he at
length moved, that the (louse do now adjourn. But
his Motion was noi seconded,

Mr. BOND. would. not- scruple to give the .most
unqualified praise to the condua if the Commission.
er /14,11atl approved of 'their appointment from
.dieory he now more highly approved of their
swe its priaical benefits had been proved.—
The Vote proposed aid not in the least preclude the
House' from a Vote 01 Censure, if any thing should
appear in their coodu4.. which cculd justlY incur
'such a stigma. But such trifles, a 3 the words taw-
periblr loith a Jury, should not he ierjuu,sly attended
501 it t$ general conduCt of the Commission.
ers, and the spirit that formed that condud, that
should' lie' conmideted ; and when Ow .spirit and
cond44 were. 1.64 appreciated, they would h found
eminently entitled to the most unqualified praise
which the House could bestow.

John WROTTESLU Was glad to hear the
sentiments- expressed by, the Learned Gentleman,
and he most oldially concurred in them.

!Mt. Gxt o.olt was rattier inclined to -vote for 111
Amendment.

Mr.
BASTARQ contended, that the Commissioners
not only were entitled to the thark‘ of the House,
hart alto to the bet, support which the'House could
atT‘ta their tarr.,cr ptoceeding,., "Nothlngto
tvds artre off:rt,ive than the initntlationS thrlwn out
the Coindabiioners. He could not sit silent,
; for aim the very essential seivice
111:).• h already rendered the Country, and theist ill
t orthtr bc or'fit with wloe:t their future exertions
t,, lae, attended, it. inolt uvike .every
iyil.wisher to his Country slitidder to 11.iir Hits
imputations -which 40111 e GentlernenAtternp,ed to cat
upon their Condud. • . •
Mr. lutt.eit warmly suppurted the original
Motion: it iihoutantit he mach,: a Party-questii,n.
The Inquiry wilt io.,litOted for piddle end and had
already produced great public good, and he troied,
it would not'stop till the evil Was probed to the
bottom. He cared not Winy was Minister ; he was
only anxintits that the Public idloold know how tit
rub:te Money expended, and that care was
taKen. to puoish those
,who were guilty of vegillation
and plunder. The cominissiotters hid dune their
duty to that effeet, and they were fiidy entitled to,
the Thanks .4the House, and the gtaiitude of 114,
Country,
Mr. SHERIDAN rrnlie.l.

with his usual ability, to all the objeltions that had
I,te7 urged against his Motion. He now felt regret
at having-introdoced.the words '' whole Of" in the
wording of his TVltition ; but when first he gave no.
rice et his Motion, lie eccompanied the. noticewith
an enumeration of the merits which induced him to
word it ; for he was principally anxious to bring to.
the trstt whatever objedinna might- be attempted
against the condat of the Commotsioners, and to as.
Certain in. what light should be held the insinuations
ti hieh were thrown out against them. The Right
Hon. Gentleman,(Mr. PITT) did not hesitate to say,
"shat the found much to Warne in their conduit ; but
why renew the Commission if any serious and solid
charge could be fairly brought against them ? It
•• watt in artier to clear- up all those points that he in.
serted in his Motion the words, the 'whole of their
tondutt. The 'Honourable Gentleman who moved
she Amendment, very candidly explained- the mo.
. lives upon which he stied; Nut so other Gentle.
men, who wished the previous question had been
moved, or who would move an adjournment, and:
wl.o waited to be prompted what to say in support
of their intended Motion. , Why did they not open..
ly•.and candidly declare their mind-? Why nor say,
they regretted the deteCtions that had taken place ;
that they regretted the benefits which these deice.
'ions were.likely to produce ? Did these Gentle.
men forget that a Vote of- Thanks had been passed
to the Commissioners of Accounts, though the whole
of-their Reports had not then been, before the House?
This was a parallel case. Why now defer a Vote of
• Thanks till the whole of the labours of the Corn.
• mission are closed ? •He would ask .any of these
Gentlemen, whethei, atr Ctt as they have seen, the
'Commissioners have not concluded themselves with
diligence, ability, andfortitude ? The word fortitude
Ire would riot have omitted for the world;: for it re.
• quired all that manly and valorous determination
which the Commissioners had displayed in pursuing
the most powerful army of corruption.—That, in.
tired, was their pre.eminent title to praise. Yet
many charges and insinuations of a paltry nature
• were attempted to be brought against them. Not
one, however, of the charges urged this night, but
what had slreadybeon brought before the House,
.ied refuted or abandoned. lie Was not a little
surprised to hear, some Gentlemen complain that
• they. had not had time or opportunity to clear their
cheraders from. the censure C(Cit upon them in some
Of the Reports. The Reports they chiefly allude
to, have been nearly two years before the House,
yet it is only now they manifest any anxiety to meet
atnd'eepe.l the accusations of their conduit. Gentlemen
argue that scaecely,any of the Reports have yet been
duly examined. What, notwithstanding, have Mini.
• Ceti; done ? Have they not moved for aretappointed
a Commission, thebusiness of which is to.adviSe Go.
vernment how best can be carried into executian the
improvements suggested-in these Reports ? If they
had not properly examined the Reports, how could
they refer the tieW Commission to the improvements
suggested in them ?—One Gentleman has even gone
so tar as to declare, that Lord St, Vincent was the
worst First Lord of the Admiralty the Country ever
had; yet it watewell known that. •the Noble Lord
had solicited ,Inquiry into his conduit ; but none
was'etterepted, and sure he was that the Hon. Gen.
simian (4r. Jaresitv) who now. presumed to •ar.
raign Ott condud, would never be found to attempt
following op -the charges' which he this night in.
sinuated against the conduit of the Noble Earl,
,a '
cootiud which was now. become the- hope arid the
oroedest property of the Country. But as to the
proposed Amendment, he could not agree to it,
onongh he ,now regretted. having inserted in his
Motiorealie words objteleti to. He had no abjec.
tion to new-model his Motion, but he could nor
coasent that it Should appear upon the Journals that
the words had been objected to and rejected.
Wietveroeca professed his readiness to
withdraw his Amendment, as there was nothing he
was mote anxious about than that the House should
be unanimous upon so important paint.
1- he. :ser eke n wished to culled the sense of
the Tiewie resi citing the withdrawing of both Mo.
t'•ots ;' which, aftir a pause, alehouse seemed to
3 'etilt CO.

t/if. Z.`,llFltt DAN said, that he hoped it was dis.
onde.,io,,d, that he did not withdraw his
Motion nit At,otint of the admission of any fad that
ihnwied if, but merely that it might
id! with tltr ecnistmetion put upon it by the
};hut, 0,-,•,t1001,in (Mr. WILIIIiaPORCII) WillY moved

S:ikRIDANIII Motion,with the omission of
,t,,,tt11/4, ',what cf, tsiii4 then put from the Chair ;
f,t, :Treed to without a division.
Mr. SHutttoax then moved, that the said Reset.
I.t ion be trottbmitteti by Mr. SPEAKER to the
Cluirtnitn (f the Commissioners; winch. Motion wao
ilso agreed to.
'Alter one conversation bet ween Mr. PITT, Mr.
WtitTsoteisp, and Mr. Kt r4tl4/ RD, it was agreed
that Mr. WHITOREAD deferred bis Motion for
t:nleitig,.rite name of Land Meivilte from the Libt
tit the Privy Councillors fill I.\.lond,ty next, and Mr.
111% M..)tiot) respecting St kf. Ponittim,
Wc,ittesday woct.

Adjouit.ed at Twelve o'Clock.

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PRICE OF STOCK
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FR/DAY, MAY 3, 'Sc.

ACCOUNTS have been received froir;) the West in.
4ies up to the 24dyitarch. From Liverpool we learn,
,y • •
Ylla
t tile 411:11104 aMfOr, C 414.44.1, 114 arrived
111<:;c 1;1/4 IT; ;3t. ThOtrlPSti, which Island she left tin the
.1,1 Pcnntvi 1-41 v ti‘ bOCltld

afterwards., This Vcssel,bas brought intelligence.
that on the 14th a French Schooner Arrived at St.
Thomas's from Guatialoupe, the Masterof which.re.
ported that 14. Prizes had been sent in there fromllorni.
nica ; that the French Fleet, after leaving that Island,
had proceeded to Nevis and Sr. Kitt's, Where they
had' destroyed the Shippiog, anti 'levied contribu.
tions, and then returned to Guadaloupe 3 to this is
added that their next attack was to be on Antigua,
and that several Ships had arrived at S. Thomas's
from St. Kitt's, which had got away before the
French Force arrived there. Other accounts state
that the french Force had been to St; Kitt's and
Montserrat, but had not gone 'to Nevis.

LAST night a very. interesting. Debate took place
in the House of Commons, on the Motion of Mr.
SHERIDAN for giving (he Thanks of the House to the
Commissioners of Naval Inquiry. Mr. PITT saii,
he should,not oppose the Motion of the Hon. Gentle.
man,at the same time he thought it necessary to ob.
serve,' that there were some parts. of the- condud of
the Commissioners of which he could not approve.
Mr.,WILDERPO'RCE objeCted to the words of the
Motion for thanking the Commissioners for the
" whole" of th`eir conduft, but wished them to be
thanked generally: Mr. SHERIDAN withdrew his
original .Motion,` and then movedthe Thanks in
conformity to the suggestion of Mr. WILISER.
FORCE. The Moiiin was' agreed to without a
division.

On a Petition, praying to be dischargsd, pre.
sented from Nr.S.runaT, the Printer and Pub.
lisher of the Oreicis; a warm-Debate previously
arose, the result of which was, that the Motion
for his being reprimanded and discharged was car.
tied on a division, I+2 against lit. Messrs.
WINVHAM, Fox, avid GK ex, objcEled.ta the terms
of the Petition,- as not sufficiently submissive ;, but
they did not point out what degree of submission
they required.

Virgil r. s oute authentic Intelligence is received
respening the movement and destination of the Erre. ,
rny's Squadron, we most. exped every day. fresh
Reports and fresh Speculations. Westated yester.
day, that the .Toulon Fleet having eft-cacti-at junc.
tiun with the Spanish Squadron in Cadia, had im.;
mediately pat .to sea again ; but whether they
Shaped a Northerly course, fur the purpose of re.
lieving the Ferrol Squadron, or whether, as is sup.
posed by some, , they proCeeded immediately to the
West Indies, is yet: a *natter of eonjedure. We
arc rather inclined to adopt the former opinion, be.
cause whatever might' be their ultimate destination,
the liberation of that Squadron must be a most de.
sirable objee.l, and there, is no doolat but that with
the superiority .they obtained by. the' junction of,the
TOulon and Cadiz'Squadrons,- it would be 'perfedly
pradicable.—Bast here- we chink their progress to
the Northward would, stop ; for we cannot suppose
that' they Would venture to attempt to raise 'the
blockade of Brest ; or if they did attempt it,, we
have no doubt they would sustain a ctstrplete de.
feat. The Fleet of Brett, under Lord GARDNItas
is in admirablecontliti,m, and is composed of some
of the largest and finest Ships in the British Navy ;
and we have some reason to believe that he ha'i
been joined by the Squadron under the comtnand of
Sir JOHN 0114 E.; and the Reinforcements which,
. if necessary, he could mei,: e from home, would
make him more than a March for the whole Corn.
bine(' Fleets of France and Spain.' We— think,
therefore, it would be a waste of time to cum-
-1 merit upon the reveries of those who suppose
that the Toulon, Cadiz, and Ferrol Squadrons
having joined the Brest Fleet, could proceed up ,
the British Channel, with a force of near sixty
Sail of the .Line,. and' convoy over the Boulogne
Flotilla. To chew the absurdity of any such spe.
culation, it is only necessary to state, that the force
under Lord GAR»NEK., and ready for Sea in our
Ports, is little, if any thing, short of fifty Sail of
the Line; and it is most improbable indeed that the
Enemy would risk a contest with such a force, in
a Channel where, in case of a defeat, , they have nut
a single Port to shelter them +hail capable of ,con.
taining a Ship of the Line. It appears to,,us, there.
fore, more probable that they have either proceeded
ors their voyage to the West Indies, or that they
have returned to the Mediterranean, where they
Would have a temporary superiority. .

Yesterday, about two o'clock, f-h 4 MAJEsTy held
a Prawing. Loom at St, James's Palace, which was
very' ntirneroqsly attended : the PR tric ItSsRsiLLIZA.
B BTU, MARY; SOPH lA, and INMELIA, tile PRI NC lISS
Of WALES, DUCH Llis of Yost() and NUNCIO SO.
PHIA of GLotlCPtatilL; DUK.ES 01,YORI, CUZ4I.
BERJAND, 15.ENt, SUSSEX, and CAMDItIPOS
VA INCE MI; LLtAra of GI.0.11: ; their, Excel-
lencies the Sw twists, flasstt;tr, SARDINIAN, MA,.
TOL;TAN) I-lANoyER 11;41, and WtitTErttgettotAx
Ministers, Sic. were present.
The DUCHESS of Vulg.. calre in state about three
o'clock, attended by Lady "114,4 CULLEN SI;IITH.
The Prawing.room closed ahoutlive o'clock.
yearircidy, abuot Ove o'clack, His MA sEsTy
riurci at the 0=11"$-house, from Kew.