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to thee poles. He should have thought of
, fairly n he
Pay hi established the precedent, and we
Y fairly Pay bini in his own coin.

In the
House of Lords last night his High-
'eve CUMBERLAND professed himself cruelly
titueved at the LORD CHANCELLOR'S having
elie4telY Presumed to insinuate that he was
illuSt •
rlaUs
uuk by courtesy," in contrast to the
h, eof "ELLINGTON, who was " illustrious
conduct.,, w
- econfess—" much meditating on
wese hi
t ors,-" as Lord BROUGHAM would say—
anev are the number of those who cannot by
tit's comprehend the reason of his Eligh-
-rath• If he be not " illustrious" by
brieBY, by what else is he " illustrious ?" Is
liasyheNtiet ? What has he ever said—what
laying ever done—what his he ever dreamed of
praise- D°l' doing, that should entitle him to such
eenL, His campaigns, we believe, have
Revie:"Lefly confined to Hyde Park on a
thowed uay (where, however, he no doubt
skill) much valour and abundant military
e as respects his civil actions
War/l, 4,31 nothing of those displayed
they
the Hammersmith ladies—" are tney,
~...thuOtten
Loa'; in the books of the Chronicles ;I.
'3 to say, in the records of the House.o
of I,B' in the shape of a long, consistent serics
fair .°t" against every question that at all bade
\Vett? advance the interests of the country
h?
1411e>bi1 ear his Highness must content himself with
`` illustrious" by blood, and not set up a
tfin° he considered so by vire of his per-
-14;14 il
6,,ree°vntnendations. He had better tru,t to
WiaC,,see,, and thrw Self verboard. Hereditary
4' Is better than noo wisdom at all.ere
mow
har t • be recollected that an. Act was last
Itt las'ed, to do away with the vexatious claims
Ahietie
by the Clergy, under a maxim of law
all "ginated in times when the Church was
lop";:terful, to full tithes of any land, however
alit hooray 'nay have been free from such claims,
rotki"wever notorious the establishment of
.a
14111,8, may have been. Lord WYNFORD
tetl;
.1 cur memory serves us right, who suc-
keg 111 the House of Lords in introducing a
ph-1, into the Bill, giving the Clergy three
Id ti
me to rake up all the old claims they
rho ht° harass and annoy their parishioners,
the}ed rights which, from the lapse of time,
the :)iight have difficulty in proving. When
Nr;tll,endment came down from the Lords,
totiL liberal Member prophecied that the
ttotr quence of it would be, instead of re-
tht it tranquillity and peace to parishes,
vek,,-tavival of all the half-forgotten and
1411°4 claims which it was the very object of
1144 h lto silence for ever. Ultimately it was
eI-getl between the two Houses that the new
1t1)04„e, Should be struck out, but that the Act
181,41 not come into operation till August,
This was a very slight alteration for the
r, for the object of the Legislature has
tit in great part defeated by the clergy having
to,kdy commenced nearly three thousand actions
geld claims of tithes. Any fair tithes which
the, been customarily receivable by the clergy
thou,
no doubt continue to be paid by the land-
lot,r. 8. They are public property, and the public is
Poeted in seeing that thelandowners do not
14iit them; but what was sought by the Bill of
tithe stun, was to prevent a clergyman demanding
time 15' land which has not paid it for so long
140,-"t that in the case of every other species of
ad bee
the law would presume that the claim
krbitteen settled ; in fact, to do away with an
~tvliett4ht" Privilege attained by the Church,.
4he r„-"!ne hut churchmen could read or write.
th-r,`atire was clearly passed in the interest.
the the object being to relieve it
14 the
oulurn which the grasping conduct.
ttk,tillrt of its Ministers brought upon it
Toitilo:fl,tb•hinegir the power of doing mischief
hands. Well might the SoLicl-
- Ct4fttAL say that nothing but infatuation
Proceed induced the clergy to commence the
kfaturga they have. What but the blindest
bart,iatton could have prevented them taking
hat Y b what has occurred in Ireland ?
hut the most miserable shortsightedness
1
1111/44 uneeal from them the adverse feelings of the
,' -tluer 441 bof
Athe people towards them ? The obliga-
which Lord ALTHORP felt himself
• (Ira. aw the compulsory part of the Tithe
I
fitat• lee Act, ought to have been a sufficient
to ill
4EIO '" to the wiser part of the clerical body
it Pa s% ne med the House of Commons. was
'44
~°'ver their exactions. We are informed
ttlept`,l,ls principle which Lord ALTHORP
°I 41:4 in that Bill of making all the injustice
Perpe-tBeven years preceding the composition
ihrleremtlal, has induced numbers of the clergy to
hope the their exactions. We have reason to
lithe at their grasping inclinations will be foiled
f
14tlatioa°Ption next year of the principle o
!inure 4.° for the composition, and allowing a
No laeount on the composition being turned
144 bileee"tulutation, This is the measure which
Ike. ~,11 adopted for Ireland, we fear almost too
votk tlad it been carried into effect when Mr.
1:,14 11„14114's peddling Tithe Composition Act
-`l)eo,4'wed, vve should have been spared all the
4,(4 police and other force, of agitation,
Clntil bloodshed which have since flowed from
~„‘"lergy°eketh°n of tithes. Let not the English
'lteCn'i.uY standing out for straws, as the advio-
-40,41ity ,t,he Irish Clergy then did, hazard t
there i°` their whole income. Especially, let
1.'1% not
engage in the odious and unjust,
Ohogh) P hstrictly legal, noticed
er aps, warfare,
theilhigLat in the House of Commons. We
Zill offs lie that their friends in both Houses
ore er:„°: opp?sition to the Bill for leave to
t,,h-'"ch • BLAMIRE means this even-
t 4 as
88
011. f the;nu
Nori
to amend the Act of last Ses-
-BtOD the unpopular course the more
are now pursuing.
tookW° --"--"10°---
ulti a
pieta Ppear' from the conversation which
htr°Us, an night, in the House of Com-
Ou
tittigB
th"e Vote for the repairs of public
Poll ' at Whitehall is not definitively fixed
041 Y t° 01.
the National Gallery. That place is
be eh
ruler osen m the event of its being, upon
rot
the ininatton and consideration, found fit
hPnrpos
e• Its admittin of extension at
tit unloderat exPense is a great recommendation
Pttereet/e;fititle Banquetting-Hall should be found
aaurta for the exhibition of the national
"Y t °f art t
tico
A,Sahveeiy had better build a new ga
yal us only from. a job in favour
St. Martin my'
Church
or stifling the fine por.
setts; eiCo
vetio_lte ,f
tag rig having been under the
--
Aso moue repti7:l rierod at Senegal, brought thence a
►MillePede Scorpion. This reptile
444eibite4 ra carted
tat, red Y the !hip, that its destruction was
~ctklitors,
W!ra:.e. e sting
said to be mortal.
tr'. hut for Who
rwemreed injured
by it, would have fallen
pointed out to them
e 4144" efliSeueryll. I'.4a;slaniani,..aressenger.

IMPERIALPARLIAMENT

THIS DAY, THURSDAY, AUG. 15.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

On the admission of strangers to the gallery, at twenty
minutes past twelve o'clock, we found about twenty
Members in the House, Colonel Evans addressing the
Treasury Bench across the table. We could not core
rectly learn the purport of his question, or of the reply
given by Mr. Baiing.
Mr. WALLACE presented a petition from Sir William
Francis Elliott, complaining, in the first place, that pre-
sentations in the Church of Scotland were now improperly
made with impunity; and,in the second place,thst the purity
of election for Members of that House, was affected by such
improper presentations. The petition, he said, was from
a hi,hly respectable individual—one of rank and character,
and was of such a nature as, if supported, would call for the
interference of that House; and, if unsuppor ed by proof,
would put him (Mr. Wallace) under the necessity of re-
pudiating the information given 'o him. The Hon.
Member went on to read portions of the petition, and to
comment thereon, from which it appeared th it a ME.
Scott, who hail been the assistant to the incumbent; of the
parish of Ogdar, in Roxbur,hshire, for a period of ten
years, and had given the utmost a tisfaction to the
parishioners, had not, as had been expected, been
presented with th- incumbency, although supported by a
petition signed by 72 out of 100 inhabitants, but that tt e
presentation had been made in favour of a Mr. Ewin,
who was a warm supporter at the last election of the
Hon. Captain El intl. The Hon. Member added, that he
wish d to be tiis-inctly told by some member of his M..
j sty's G.vernment, wnether ten years of satisfactory ser
vitude was not sufficient evidence in favour of the apt
pointment of Mr. Scot, without even the petition in his
favour signed by the 72 parishioners.
Captain ELLIOTT s ,id that some weight might be
attached to the statement of he p tition, it founded
n fact ; hot if not, the H•oise ought not to have
been troubled witti such a set of trash.—(Hear.) The
friends of Mr. Scott had started on their canvass three
or tour dars heft,re tlmse of Mr. Etvin, in consequence of
which the former received 72 sienatur,s to their pettti n.
and the latter only 22, but the House sholild know that
among the former there were only three out of the nine
heritors in the parish, whilst the latter had the rem ining
six, act that although the numb r, migt t be in favour of
M. Scott, toe amoint of property w s in favour of Mr.
&via. Lord Melbourne had only ac ed upon that principle,
t! :e ca.e which had been pursued by his predecess r (Sir
R. Peel) that where there was a difference of opinion
between two candidates who had canvassed the parish, lie
had appointed a third person, who hid not canvassed.
That the present person had been recommended through
political motives, was a foul and false assertion.—(Hear,
hear, hear.) In the course he bait pursued, he had done
nothing more than any other man in the world wou d
have done—where he found a deserving friend he had
put hint forward. He was sorry that so contemptible
and trivial a petition should have occupied so touch of the
time of the House.

Mr. HUME could not consider the petition either con-
temptible or trivial, but greatly deserving the attention
of the House. From the statements of the Honourable
Member who had spoken last, it was clear that
both the petitioner and himself were implicated in do-
ing all they could for their friends. The question with
him was, whether the Secretary of State, in deciding as
he had done, hail attended to the wishes of the parish. In
his opinion he had not, but had attended to the recom-
mendation of the Hon. Member opposite, and had inducted
a political supporter of his into the Church. He supposed
the Hon. Member had obtained the appoin inent of Mr.
Ewin as a debt of gratitude. He thought the question
that ought to have been determined was as to the quali-
fication of Mr. Scott, backed as he was by such strong
recommendations of servitude and other evidence.

After a few ob•ervations from Mr. SINCLAIR, Colonel
LEITH HAY, and Mr. G. LAMB,
Mr. WALLACE replied. Church patronage in Scot-
land he knew had always been exercised with a view to
political influence, and until the system was entirely
done away with there would be no such thing
as peace or quietness in that country ; and he
would say that whatev,r influence he possessed, he would
employ to agitate and influence the people to that effect.
The Hon. Member presented petitions from the electors of
Paisley praying for law reform, from Stirlingshire relative
to the present state of bankruptcy laws, from the political
union of the county of Renfrew against the law monopoly
of Edinburgh ; also from the Chamber of Commerce and
manufactures, in favour of a better registration of vessels.

Gen. PALMER gave notice of moving, to•motrow,
certain resolutions relative to the repeal of all duties upon
articles of use and consumption, to be taken into considera.
Lion early in the n-xt session.
Lord ORMELIE presented a petition from certain free •
holders of the county of Perth, relative to the present state
of the game laws.
Mr. MURRAY admitted the existence of the grievance
and thought it worthy of the consideration of the House.
After some observa►ions from Sir F. BURDETT, the pe-
tition was ordered to lie on the table.

Lord DALMENY presented petitions from Airlie, and
other places in Scotland, against Church Patronage, the
desecration of the Sabllitb, and in favour of the Factory
Bill.

Mr. ESTCOURT presented a petition from some of
the electors of Montgomery, complaining of being de-
prived of their elective franchise.
Mr. EWING presented petitions from the bankers in
the west of Scotland, and from the Merchants' House, the
Trades' Hou-e, and the manufacturing interest of Glasgow,
against the Bankrupt Bill for Scotland, and in favour of
a local system of administration, from the ship-owners
and from the Chamber of Commerce of Gla.gow, for alter.
ing the mode of admeasuriment in the registry of vessels;
from the Directors of the Town's Hospital of Glasgow, for
the introduction of a salutary system of Poor Laws into Ire-
land ; from the Chamber of Commerce of Glasgow, for
preventing the arresttnent of wages payable to workmen by
the month, fortnight, week, or any shone, period ; and from
the Students of the Mechanics' Institution of Glasgow,
for national encouragement to the diffusion of scientific
and mechanical instruction among the operative classes,
and for exemption from duty on their advertisements.
Mr. J. TALBOT presented a petition from Brigadier
Smith, complaining of the conduct of Major-General
Sir John Buckingham. Circumstances bad 13-en brought
under his consideration which led him to believe the cons-
plaint was founded, and that unless something was ,ione
the greatest detriment might be occasioned to the
artillery service.

On the question that the petition do lie on the table,
Mr. ELLICE said the Learned Gentleman having
stated his intention of presenting the petition, he (Mr.
Ellice) had applied for information, and had been in
formed by the Adjutant General that not the shadow
of any ground of charge existed against Sir John
Buckingham. The accusation being positively denied
by the other party, he could not entertain the I. ea
of the House being further troubled in the matter. No
impediment was offered tar such inhabitants of Athlone as
defined the object of their visit to the barracks.
Mr. TALBOT s,id a few words in reply.
After an observation from Colonel EVANS, the peti-
tion was ordered to be laid on the table

Mr. BLAMIRE presented a petition on the subject
of Lord Tenterden's Act, from a parish in the county
of Cumberland, refuting to the modus oil tithes.
The Hon. Gentleman then presented a petition from
Graystork, in Cumberland, on the subject of tithes.
Mr. MURRAY presented a petition from the port of
Leith, relative to the admeasurement of merchant vessels.

Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition from the
parish officers of the parish of St. Martin, who felt ag-
grieved by the representations of one of the Honoura-
able Members for Westminster (Colonel Evans) that
they bad misapplied the parish funds, and that nine of
them received salaries, whereas they in fact did their
duty gratuitously. The duties were very heavy, and they
received nothing whatever for it, and they prayed the
House to defend them from such false and scan-
dalous imputation. The Hon. Baronet did not know
how the House could do that, but certainly they were
very respectable persons, and they were anxious to vindi-
cate theia characters.
Colonel EVANS rose, but
The SPEAKER said there was no question before the
House, as the petition, by referring to what passed in the
House, could not be received.
Col. EVANS hoped before the question of privilege was
dispose;l of, he might be permitted to say that he never said
the parish officers had salaries of 150/. a year—that was a
mistake of the newspaper referred to in the petition
(the Morning Post) was to the rest of the matters,
the various and extravagant expenses for dinner,
hiring of laundaus to go to the dinner, law-
suits, &c., were all taken from e..idence which had
been published. The Gallant Member read a number
of items from the minutes of evidence in support of
hie statement, and contended that he had not been incorrect
in any particular. The local taxation of the parish was about
50,0001., and King's taxes also 50,0001.---the poor rates
on which those expence were charged being 34,0001. One
visiting of the poor at a place a few miles out of
town was charged at not less than 6/. a man for
six of them, making 36/.—(Hear, bear, hear.) Al