The Sun.
London, England, 1851-07-03 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON,

I Mr. ANDERSON presented a petition from Orkney
in favour of t Ee(.lvsi4stiell Titles Bill.
Mr. BAIRD pre, :.o .d a ;:e:i;ion tram the brewers
and dist,lier. L.,,lithgow against the Public 113m:es
(Scotland)
Lord JOCELYN presented a petition from Bo bay
in favour of the establishment of steam communication
hrt+veen I.dis and Australia; also a similar petition
from the merchants of London.
Mr. EWART present: d a petitirm from 750 members
ti the College of Preceptors and Proprktors of Schools,
praying that (in the Inhabited House Duty Bili) build-
ings cbov,ted to the purpose of education may, like
houe's coon _cted with shops and warehouses, be sub-
jected only to the lower rare of charge.
ROYAL ASSENT.
Mr. Pulman, Yeoman Ush.-r of the Black Rod, ap-
peared at the table of the House, and summoned the
Speaker to the bar of the House of Lords to hear the
Royal assent given to certain Bills (for which see
Lords' report).
Mr. HUME presented a petition from the Royal
College of Veterinary Surgeons in favour of the Vete-
rinary Surgeons Exemption Bill.
WESTMINSTER-HALL.
Mr. HUME wished to ask the Noble Lord at the
head of the Woods and Forests whether any arrange-
ments had been made to secure the opening of West-
minster Hall to the numerous strangers now visiting
London, without the payment of a fee.
Lord SEYMOUR said the hall was in the care of a
keeper, over whom he had no control.
Mr. HUME would be glad to know who the keeper
was?

Lord SEYMOUR did not know.
Mr. HUME said it was a disgrace to the country that
strangers should be compelled to pay a fee to see the
Hall. The keeper was liberally remunerated at the
expense of the public, and it was illegal for him to ac-
cept any gratuity for opening
the doors.
Sir G. GREY said the Hall was always open while
the Courts were sitting, and '`)aci ,would see if it could
not belopened when they were not.— (Hear.)
Colonel SIBTHORP wished to know whether the
Right Hon. Baronet was aware of the gross indecencies
that had taken place through the indiscriminate admis-
sion of strangers into Westmintter Abbey.
Sir GEORGE GREY—certainly there was not, nor
had representations been made to him on ihe subject.
BUSINESS FOR TO-NIGHT.
Sir DE LACY EVANS wished to know whether
it was intended to take the Inhabited House Duties
Bill to-night.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the Court of Chancery and
the Woods and Forests Bills would be taken before that.
EDUCATIONAL BOOKS.
Mi. S. HERBERT inquired if it was intended to
restrict the sale of the school books by the Irish Edu-
, eetional Commissioners to Ireland, and only to
he schools under the management of the Educational
Board, or would measures be taken to enable the public
to purchase them both in England Ireland?
Mr. C. LEWIS said the Government had taken the
subject into their consideration, and the conclusion they
had come to was, to request the Commissioners to
make such arrangements as would secure to the public
in both countries a constant supply of authentic books,
and at moderate prices.
Mr. HUME hid been given to understand that there
were perties in Ireland ready to undertake the printing
of the books without arty assistance from the public
exchequer, and afterward.; to sell them a; the prices
fixed upon by the commissioners.
Mr. LEWIS said it was quite true that such an offer
had been made, ELIA it was now under consideration.
k °REIGN POSTAGES.
Mr. HUME wished to ask Viscount Palmerston
whether any arrangement or negotiation was in pro-
gress for reeneteg the charge of postage between this
c alum aid Freues ?
Lord PALMER'S rON replied that a communication
had been made to the French authorities on the subj. ct,
but as yet it hart led to no favourable result.
Mr. ANSTEY wanted to know whet progress had
been made in the the negotiation for t qualizieg postage
charges on both sides of the Chance 1? At present if a
letter was pre paid in Paris the postage was oaly 83.,
but if the postage was aaid in Loudon it was 10d.
Lord PALMERSTON said the matter rested entirely
with the Posimasi.er-General, and he was therefore un-
able to say whist progress had been made.
ECCLESI AS FICAL TI rus BILL.
Mr. FRESHFIELD understood that it was the
intention of the Government to move, by way of
amendment, in the second clause of the Ecclesiastical
Titles Bill the omission of the words which gave a com-
mon informer the power to put the provision of the Bill
in force with the permission of the Law Officers of the
Crowe. Now he had an amendment to propose which
ought to come before that one; and, therefore, he wished
to ask the First Lord of the reasury what amendments
he intended to propose, and in what order, upon the
third reading of the Bill?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he did not propose to
make any alteration either in the preamble or the second
clause of the Bill, but he did intend to move the omission
of the words which the Hon. and Learned Member for
Abingdon had succeeded in putting into the second
clause. He could not, however, agree to the Hon.
Member's proposal to allow his amendment to come first.
Mr. B. OSBORNE said the amendments which had
been introduced into the Bill were not sufficiently un-
derstood in Ireland, and the third reading ought there-
fore to be postponed for a short while longer.
Lord J. RUSSELL could not accede to this proposal.
The amendments were fully understood on both sides of
the Channel.
Mr. GLADSTONE suggested that the debate on the
amendments and the general merits of the Bill should be
taken not on the third reading, but on the question that
the Bill do pass.
OATH OF ABJURATION (JEWS) BILL.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved the third reading of
this Bill.
Sir B INGLIS said ever since the first time when a
Bill on this unhappy subject was introduced, he had
always regarded it as one of the most
unfortunate measures which had been brought
before Parliament. He looked upon it with the
greatest- abhorrence, and the strongest repugnance, and
he believed it was both uncalled for and . undesired
by the great mass of the people. On the pre-
sent occasion, however, he should not call upon
the House to divide, but would content himself with ex-
pressing once more his solemn objection to a measure
which would have the effect of destroying the Christian
character of the House.—(Hear.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought it right to offer
a few words in explanation to the observa-
tions of the Honourable Baronet the Member for the
University of Oxford. It was welt known that a Jew
was ready to swear to all that was contained in the
oaths of allegiance and supremacy. Then came the ques-
tion, was the oath of abjuration imposed in order that all
Members who entered the House should declare them-
selves Christians? Now, he believed that neither those
who proposed or who supp irted the oath of abjuration
ever dreamt of its u. cessi y on that ground. It was intro-
duced solely for the purpose ef making persons d4clare
that they would bear allegiance to the family now on
the Throne., fled not to vie descendants of James the
Second. To the conditions, trierreore, of the oaths o•
aliegiance, suprermicy, acid abjuration the Jew wa real)
to swear and subscribe; but no doubt the words at the end
of the last oath plac.d hire iu a position of difficulty, and
precluded it tieeig administered to him in that form. He,
(Lord Jelin Russell) however, could not but think that
on this qu,stion the wishes of the people at large ought
to be very much cotinelted, and esp. cially electors of
Members of i'arliament.—(Hear.) Within the last few
days a second member of the Jewish persuasion had
been elected es a representative for a borough by a
majority of nearly 900 votes.—(Hear.) He was glad
to see that the Honourable Alderman who had been
thus elected had declared it as his intention not to
come down and offer to take his seat until the other
House of Parliament had an opportunity of considering
the present Btll. (Hear, hear.) He (Lord J. Russell)
was ready to meet the views of that other House
of Parliament in regard to the sentiments
which had been evinced upon one clause of
the Bill, and if necessary to withdraw it.
Now that the House of Commons was about, fur the
third time, to declare that Jews have a right to
sit in this House, he thought it was quite time
that the House of Lords should consider what was
due to the people. With regard to popular
elections it struck him that the present state of the case
grave Jews a most decided advantage as against
Christians, because the Jew was able to hold himself out
to the voters as a persecuted man, and ono in whom was
centered the principle of religious liberty. He did not
think that ev-n if this Bill passed, its effect would ex-
tend beyond admitting one or two Jews into Parliament,
and would certainly not give them any advantages over
Christians.
Mr. NEWDEGATE (who was received with loud
cries of "oh") said that he did not agree with the Noble
Lord as to the effect which this question had upon popular
elections; an opinion never had been elicited from
the people at a general election. As for the
late election at Greenwich there were exceptional
circumstances which prevailed upon persons to
vote for Mr. Salmons rather than Mr. Wire, apart
from any political grounds. Mr. Wire had been an active
supporter cf Baron Rothschild, and had been very much
employed by the Jewish community in his legal capacity,
so that the electors of Greenwich had merely to choose be-
tween a Je wish barrister and his attorney. He rejoiced that
the Right Hon. Baronet was not about to call upon the
House to express any further opinion upon this Bill,
because, in his opinion, Mr. Alderman Salomons, al-
though he did not mean Immediately to present him-
self, and had, neveNheless, been elected under a pledge
to force himself into the House, in defiance of the law,
Mr HODGSON was atonished that the Noble Lord,
who announced himself as the champion of Protestant-
ism, should come doers' to the House one night to proposed
Push forward a Bill which was an insult to the feelings
a measure to defend Protestantism, an on the next
of the en-jority of Protestants in the country.
Mr. PLONITRE thought that after the division on the
second
reading
it was not necessary to divide the House.
of the which was only carried by a
majority of 25,
Still he should take the final opportunity of entering
I sure
his omeletsc
protest against the principle of the mea-

aioalsityquit
diviv-Aon in favour of the Bill on the last stage would have
Mr. T. A. SMITH expressed his conviction that the
been much larger had it not been brought on at such a
Jerree hthivart.thelime w
Attar a few Vig d from Mr.IIENLEY,
The Bill was then
read a third tune and passed with-
out is donator,. ttoriuderlivi!hdaer% taonede." was

COURT OF CHANCERY AND JUDICIAL COM-
-I"I'KE BILL,
The House then Rent into Commutee oithii Bill, Mr.
C. Limn in the Chair, and was
(LIFT SMUG.)

ROCHESTER DIOCESAN FEMALE TRAIN-
ING INDU.STRIAL
Ynsterd.iy the toutAa•i.n ot ii.st;tution
was laid by the Bishop of IttaJhester. The E iv.ern
Counties Rail way ran special to and from Shore-
ditch to Bishop Stortford. The proceedings com-
menced with Divine service in Bishops Stortford
Church, and after an impressive discourse had
been preached by the Reverend J. Bracuston from
the 3d chapter of Collosians, 17th verse, a pro-
cession was formed to Bramble-hill, about a mile to
the eastward, %here the intended building sill be
erected. The procession was formed io the following
order:—The National School children, the Church-
wardens, the High School and Masters, Mr. Harle
bearing the silver trowel and velvet cushion, on the
former of which was inscribed, " Feed my lambs,"
John xxi. verse 15. This trowel was presented to
the aim and Right Rev. George Lord Bishop of
Rochester, by the inhabitants of Bishops Stortford,
Herts., on the occasion of his laving the foundation-
stone of the Diocesan Training Institution for School-
mistresses, at Hockerell, near Bishops Stortford, on
the 2d of July, A.D. 1851." Next came the archi-
tect and builder, bearing the mallet, levels, and plate,
on which was engraved—" The foundation-stone
of this institution for the industrial training of
sixty schoolmistresses in the diocese of Rochester
was laid by the Right Rev. G. Murray, D.D.,
lord bishop of the diocese, on Wednesday, July
2, 1851, with many prayers to God that
His blessing may prosper the work thus commenced."
The Bishop and Archdeacon Burney followed, after
which the clergy and gentry brought up the rear.
Psalms were chaunted as the procession moved
through the town. Upon reaching the intended
site, the bishop, kneeling, offered up several
prayers, and on receiving the trowel he expressed
his thanks for the honour the inhabitants had
canferred on him by selecting him to take
so prominent a part in the proceedings, and
sincerely hoped the anticipations which they had
formed would, by the blessings of God, be realised.
The stone was then lowered, and the ceremony ter-
minated. The intended building has been designed
by Mr. Clarke, of Stratford-place. It is in
the Elizabethan or Tudor style of architecture,
composed of brick with Bath stone borders
to the doors, windows, &c., and has a
chequered front, similar to the great hall in
Lincoln's-inn and the buildings of Hampton
Court Palace. The extreme elevation will be 43
feet, length 220 feet, and depth 156 feet. It com-
prises an infant school, dining hall, matron's apart-
ments, &c., and will cover an area of 2i acres. The
estimated cost is 9,0001., towards whicfl the National
Society have subscribed 6001., and with the Govern-
ment grant the subscriptions amount to 4,5001. A
further sum of 441. 12s. 3d. was collected yesterday
at the church door.