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bad stated, at a public meeting at Durham, that he never
'knew an instance of it.--(Loull calls of " Question !")
An Host. MEMBER was inclined to support the Bill,
but thought the session too far- gone to push it forward
• now, and he could not• vote for the second reading.
• The ATTORNEY-GENERAL supported the motion.
• The Bill was only to establish the general principle of
• registration, which they all seemed to agree. in. Even
the Hon. Member liked registration in Yorkshire, and
why should not that which was good in Yorkshire be
extended over the whole kingdom ? The present motion
• only went to sanction the principle, and all the details
• might be discussed in the Committee.—(Loud calls of
• " Question.")
Mr. DUNCOMBE reminded the House that the ge-
neral principal of the Bill, which the second reading would
sanction, was the-principle of metropolitan registration.
The whole of his constituents were against the Bill, and
he should give it his most decided opposition in that
stage.—(Question.)
• Mr. J. A. AIURRAY supported the motion. Tile
principle of registration had been tried in Scotland for
upwards of a hundred years, and been found to give great
• satisfaction. They were not then to decide on the details,
but only on the general principle, to which even the Hon.
Member for Yorkshire was favourable.—(Loud calls of
" Question.")
• Mr. CAYLEY (we believe) was determined to oppose
the motion, because he knew that every one of his con-
stituents considered him pledged to oppose it.—(Laughter,
and calls of " Question.")
Lord SANDON had a petition to present against the
Bill from Liverpool, most numerously and respectably
signed. For his own part, he approved of the general
principle of registration, hut objected strongly to make it
metropolitan. He did not like concentrating wealth and
business in London ; on the contrary, he thought it was
. better to diffuse them as equally as possible through the
• country. He should prefer a district registration. At
the same time he should vote for the second reading, with
a resolution on his part to make it a district registration
in the Committee.—(Question.)
Mr. WASON approved of the observation of the Noble
• Lord, but was sure that it would not be possible to do
any thing with the Bill this Session.—(Loud calls of
• " Question.")
The House then divided on the question that the Bill
be read a second time—.
For the motion
Against B2
Majority against the motion
The Bill was therefore lost.
SEPARATISTS.

Oa re-entering the Gallery, we found Mr. PRYME
on his legs moving that the House should resolve itself
into a Committee on the Bill for substituting the Separa-
tists' affirmations for their oaths. The Hon. Member
explained the hardships those persons were subject to at
present on account of their refusing to take an oath. They
were prevented from being merchants, because they would
not take Custom-house oaths. They could not exercise
their calling in Corporations, because they would not take
the oath to the Corporation. They were sometimes de-
prived of their elective franchise, because they would not
swear that they had not voted before. If they were half-
pay officers, they could not receive their half-pay because
they would not swear. The Hon. Member referred to a
variety of other similar hardships which fell on them be-
cause they would not swear.
Mr. HALCOMB said that in the known character of
the Quakers they had some guarantee, but the Separatists
were wholly unknown to him. He should be obliged to
the Hon. Member to state who and what the Separatists
were.

Mr. PRYAIE said he could not say just now what they
were.—(A laugh.)

Mr. *ARBUR TON said, that if they had a consci-
entious objection to an oath, that was quite aufficitnt.
Mr. J. MURRAY said, the Separatists were the ori-
ginal Christian Church, who adhered closely to the lan-
guage of Scripture, especially to that portion of it which
toi bade them to take an oath.

Mr. COULBEIRN thought it a very rash project, to
grant such a privilege to a sect of whom they knew so
little. It was very different with regard to the Quakers,
with whom they had long been acquainted, and whose in-
teerity was well known. It appeared to him that such a
Bill would have the effect of encouraging unnecessary se-
cession from the Established Church.

The House then went into Committee, when, after a
somewhat desultory discussion which took place ac to
whether the form of the affirmation would be sufficient
for the purposes of evidence, and after the withdrawal of a
verbal amendment proposed by Mr. C. Fergusson, the se-
veral chose* of the Bill were agreed to.
The House resumed.—Report to be brought up to-
morrow.

A conversation then took place, similar to that which
happened in the beginning of the evening, relative to the
putting off the orders of the day that preceded the order
for going into the Committee on the Irish Church Tem-
poralities Bill.
At the suggestion of Lord ALTHORP, several Hon.
3ietnbers consen►ed to give way, and postpone the urders
that related to them.
IRISH CHURCH TEMPORALITIES BILL.

On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the House resolvtd
itself into a Committee on the Irish Church Temporilities
Bill.

The 91st, 92d, 93d, and 94th clauses were agreed to,
with some verbal amendments.

The following clauses were then agreed to :-100, 101,
102, 103, 105, and 108, clause 107 having been post-
poned after some discussion between Mr. GOULBURN, Mr.
SHAW, and Mr. STANLEY.

The 109th, 110th, and I 1 Ith clauses were poqtponed.
The 112th, 113th, 114th, 115th, 116th, and 117th
clause. were then agreed to.
_ _

The 118th clause, giving the right of appointment to
those who had the right of patronage, was postponed.
The House then resumed, and the Chairman obtained
leave to sit again on Friday next.
The Bill for taking away the punishment of death in
ewes of forcibly breaking into dwelling houses in tt e day
time, was read a third time and passed.
The Parochial Rates Bill went through a Committee,
Mr. GREEN in the Chair.

After a desultory conversation the Report was ordered
to be brought up this day.

The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the House adj..urned at two o'clock.

LIST OF THJ
Of 69, who, on the 19th of
reading of the General Rei
can be made out.

'; MINORITY,
June, voted for the second
,istry Bill, so far as the same

SCOTLAND.
Abereromby, Right Hon. J.--
Edinburgh
Adam, C.—Clackmannanshire
Agnew, Sir A.—Wigtonshire
Bannerman, A.—Aberdeen
Colquhoun, J. C.—Dumbarton
shire
Ewing, James—Glasgow
Fergusson, R. C.—Kirkcud-
bright
Gillon, W. D.—Falkirk, &c.
Hay, Sir J.—Peebles-shire
Jeffrey;Rt. Hon. F.—Edinburgh
Johnstone, J. J. H.—Dumfries.

shire
Johnston, A.—St. Andrews
Kennedy, T. F.—Ayr, &c.
Maxwell, Sir John—Paisley
Maxwell, John—Lansrkshire
Murray, J. A.—Leith
Oliphant, Laurence—Perth
Oswald, R. A.—Ayrshire
Oswald, J.—Glasgow
Stewart, R.—Haddington, &c.
Stewart, E.—Wigton, &c.
Wallace, R.—Greenock

IRELAND.
Browne, D.—Mayo
Fitzgerald, Thos.—Louth Co.
Lamb, Hon. G.—Dungarvon
Lynch, A. H —Galway
Maxwell, J. W.—Downpatrick
Perrin, L.—Monaghan Co.

FAIRED OPF.
Peel, Sir R.—Tamworth
Hunie, J.—Middlesex
IKerry, Earl of—Caine
'Penleaze, C—Southampton

TELLERS,
Brougham, W.—Southwark
Buller, Charles—Liskeard