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in it. They got in and ordered me to drive to Lendon•
bridge Station. He did so, and drew up at the Bridge
Hotel. The shortest man of the two got out and went
towards the station. The other man remaieed in the
cab, and ordered him to drive to St. Thcmas's-street. He
Cid so, and was ordered to pull up near Guys Hospital.
The one that got out had on a cloak or a mantle. He
heard them shuffing about in the cab before he pulled up,
as if they were about to get out. The short man did not
take a bag out with him, but he bad no cloak on when
he took him up first. After remaining in Thomas's-street
about half-an-hour the man returned from Tooley-street
through the arches. Hegotin and spoke to the otherman,
and then got out again, and was absent a quarter of an
hour. He did not hear what they said. On his return he was
ordered to drive them back, and to go down the Prince
of Wales-road, round by Mother Shipton. He.did so,
and got within 200 yards of Crown-terrace. They got
out with their luggage, paid him, and left. He did not
notice their luggage then. The same men hired him
again. It was two or three days after, and they then
took him from the rank at Chalk-farm. He was hired
by the same short man, and about the same hour (seven
o'clock) in the evening. He drove to the corner of Prince
of Walee-roadas before,when the man who hired him left,
and returned with another man and luggage, comprising
two carpet bags and a leather bag. Oue had a brown
frock coat on, and the other had dark clothes on. They
each had cloaks on their arms. He drove to St. Thomas's
Hospital. The short man got out, and was absent about
balf-en-hour, the other remaining in the cab. He went
towards the station. Oe his return he got into the cab.
One got out end went away, and he druve the other to
Prince of Wales's-road, Haverstock-hill. He was hired
once or twice after in the same way and by the same
men. He took them to St. Thomas-street, and the same
ceremony was performed, and he drove them back again
as before. On one occa ion he lifted one of the carpet
bags, which appeared heavy. It took place either in
April or May, but he would not swear which. It was
always dusky when he returned. The short man was of
light complexion and ight whiskers, and looked like a
-ervant out of place. Ile was about 5 feet 5 inches or
5 feet 6 inches in height, and about 28 or 30 years of
age. He thought he should know him again if he saw
him. He wore a brown frock coat, he thought, on every
occasion. He could not identify the tall man. He was
a tall, spare man. As soon as he came to the cab he got
in, and he had no opportunity of seeing much of him.
He was generally dressed in a black coat, with
a cloak on his arm. He would not swear
to either of them. He thought the tall man was the
master, and the short one his servant, as he always
hired the cab.
Joseph Carter deposed—He was a cabman, residing
at 22, Baker-street, Camden-town, No. 4,477. He
rec -llected being on the rank with his cab about 16 or
17 months ago, when he was hired by two men ; the
prisoner Pierce is one of them, and Apr, who was
here last Monday, was the other. They had two carpet
bags—if not three, with them—each man carrying one.
He did not notice their dress. They put the bags into
the cab and got in. The bags were heavy. He drove
them by their direction to St. Thomas'-street, in the
Borough, and pulled up at the bottom of the hill past'
the two hospitals. On the cab stopping, Agar got out,
and turned round at the left towards the railway arch,
leaving the other man and the bags in the cab. Aver
returned in about half-an hour, and said to Pierce, "It
wasn't going down to night." He then got into the
cab, and witness drove them to Mother Saipton's, on
Haverstock-hill. ',They got out and discharged him.
They took the bags into the public-house, and witness
pulled over the other side of the road, and on looking
round, he saw one of them carrying both bags. He
did not notice how the men were dressed that night.
Cross-examined by Mr. Wontner—He had not read
any account of this robbery in the newspapers. He did
not hear Agar give his evidence, or any part of it. He i
saw Agar in the Court for a few minutes on the last
examination. He was hired about 5 o'clock, but he
would not be positive as to the time. He could not re-
collect a fare he had before this on that night or the one
after, nor any that he drove for the week. This was the
only one he could recollect for the week. He could tell
by a man's actions if a bag he was carrying was heavy
or not. He would not swear if the bags were made of
carpet or leather. He knew Pierce's face well, because
he had seen him several times in Camden-town.
Cross-examined by Mr. Lewis—He had never had any
of the circumstances of the robbery read to him. The
kit application he had was from the waterman on Friday
week. He had never been in this court before.
Mr. Lewis—Were you ever in any court before?
Witness— Yes, once at Marylebone for being " intos-
ticated"—(laughter)—and he got off.
Witness was cross-examined by Mr. Lewis as to his
noticing the men when they hired him, and the dress
they wore, and he excused himself for not being able to
answer his questions by saying that when a man was
called off the ranks and had to twist about with a
" spirited horse," he had to be on the look out and take
care of " hisself." (Laughter.)
Mr. James Clements depaned that he resided No. 3,
Stanmore place, Greve-street, Camden-town. Last
year he kept a coffee-house adjoining the Southampton
Arms. He left in July, 1855. He recollected that
about three months before he lett two gentlemen came
to his house with carpet bags. It was about seven
o'clock in the evening, and to the best of his recollection
he had never seen them before. They remained about
an hour or an hour and a half. Ten minutes or a quar-
ter of ae hour after they came in one left, and the other
remained an hour or so. They bad some refreshments
then. Witness put a question to the man that remained
about his friend being so long absent, and received an
answer. On the return of the ether man they took the
bags and left. He could not recollet if they came to
his house after. the was a fair complexioned man, the
other had dark hair. [Agar is a fair complexioned man,
with light air and little whiskers.] They had a ,ab and
left with the bags.
John Honour deposed he was a hairdresser, residing
in Lambeth-walk, near the Walnut tree-walk. He had
known Pierce fur four or five years, and when he lived
at Walnut-tree walk, he often came to him shop. Wit-
ness dressied a dark, very near a black, wig for him.
He said he wanted it foe a friend of his, an elderly gen-
tleman. Pierce left Waluut-tree-walk about two years
since, and the wig was dressed for him shortly before
that.
This witness was not cross-examined.
John Alday, a lad, deposed that he resided at No. 2,
Newbury-mews, in the neighbourhood of Haverstock-
hill, and near Crown-terrace. He remembered finding
a double handful of shot in Princess-place, by the side
d the kerb of the pavement; there were some other
boys with me and they had some also; the shot was strewed
all along Princess.place. A person walking from Crown-
terrace to Kentish-town would walk along Princess.
place. He left school about three years silica, and he
found the shot a good while after that.
Mr. John Matthews deposed he resided at 116, Lead-
enhall street, and was the manager of Messrs. Massey's
business, goldsmiths. On the 16th May, 1855, he pur-
chased 210 American gold eagles, and gave 2131. 104.
for them, and sold them immediately afterwards. He
had slight recollection of the purchase, and he believed
it took place about 9 o'clock ; the shop opened about 8
o'clock, and this was the first transaction that morning
in buying. He paid in gold procured from the Bank of
England. He sold the eagles in the trade before paying
for them at a profit of if. ls. 101. He bought them of
a tall man, dressed in black, and he appeared as if he
had been travelling. The man waited in the shop whilst
I sold the sales and procured the money, which occu-
pied from 20 minutes to half an hour. No other person
came with him. Their shop is almost opposite the East
India House.
Mr. W. S. Sterne. of the White Hart, Thomas-street,
deposed that he kt ew Pierce perfectly ; he ale.) know
r Burgess, and a man wets calls himself Agar. lie never
knew him by name. He hail known Burge-s nine years,
Pierce seven or eight, and he had seen Agar three or
four timee within a very short period, in his house, with
the other two, previous and up to the time of the bullion
robbery. Pierce and Burgess frequented his house.
He could not ray if he saw Agar there previous to the
robbery. He had seen Burgess and Pierce at hie house
at all hours of the day. Agar came there generally
about 7 o'clock in the evening. On 17,1 February last
he received a parcel from Sarah Thompson, who was
then his barmaid. In consequence of whas she said to
'iris he put the parcel in his cash box and there kept
On • he following night. or the night atter, Burgess asked
him it he had a parcel for him. Witness replied he had,
and handed t him in his bar parlour the parcel he hail
received from the barmaid. Ho opened it in witness's
presence, and it was found to contain bank notes. There
were several, and they appeared to be valuable ones.
His impression at the time was that they were more
valuable then Si. notes, and he asked him why he had
not previously made him acquainted with the value of
tise parcel. He replied he did not because he felt per-
fectly satisfied it was safe in his hands. He then asked
witness to take care of it ; it was the savings
of yeers, and he wished witee-s to invest it br
bin. Witness said he should be glad to serve
him, because he had always hail a good epinion
of him. Witness suggested his opening a banking Le-
-count, and depositing it there ; and as a friend of his bad
a banking account, he would introduce him. Burgess
declined, saying he knew nothing of money matters, and
wn
uld be sati•died by his (witness's) taking charge of ie.
It occurred to
Co.,witeee'e to take the money to Messrs.
Reid and his brewers who would allow 5 per cent.
on all moniesdeposited with them, and he mentioned it
to Bergess
He appeared satisfied, and on the following
moron) •
g witness deposited the money, 5001. He told
Messrs. Reid that. the money belonged to a friend of
hie. It was
Witness received the interest
Burgess the of Eonng at Messrs. Reidtlhaendmonnoetye,seandHbeang 's.
handed
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book he had received
it ocvreors
Cross
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r. w ontner—His house was
much frequented by the rail
way officials. He had seen
Pierce there in company With the railway servants, but
company's
Agar,
did not know he had
been h
in the w
Cross-examined by Mr.
Lewisebroopke. persona. He never
hen Pierce, gar,
tabnedmßselurygeess,sw buterme
itxheed withtheyreother did not compose a party of
that was t
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had had Burgess's savings bank
m a
apkort. ofe
He did not re-
member Burgess saying that the money
bark.
rin
the savings of his wife's mother,
and
amount he had taken some from the savings e upb h
Burgess never said to him that he hail been fortunate '
conation
speculating in shares. There was eo concealment on
the part of Burgess—not the slightest.
Re-examined by Mr. B Akin—When he heard of this
examination he voluntarily made a
through his solicitor to Mr. Rees, solicitor foru the pro-
secution.
By Mr. Lewis—And prior to that there was not the
slightest concealment.
Sarah Thompson deposed she was barmaid to the last
witness in February last. She handed to Mr. Sterne a
parcel she received from Richard Lee ; it was addressed,
as near as she could recollect, to Mr. Burgess. She gave
it to Mr. Sterne in the same state as she received it. She
was not present when the parcel was given to Burgess

She handed on one occasion to Burgess 8/. Os. id. inte-
rest Mr. Sterne had received from Messrs. Reid and Co.
Mr. Bodkin said his next course would be to trace
these notes, bat at that late hour he thought it
was not advisable to enter on that part of the
case, and therefore he proposed an adjournment,
and a further remand of the prisoner. A circumstance,
however, occurred at the last examination which might
lead to defeating the ends. of justice, and he
therefore thought it right to mention it. During
the interval of adjournment on the last occa-
sion an opportunity was watched by a man
in court to communicate with the prisoner Pierce. What
that man said to Pierce he could not prove ; but he
should call a man who heard Pierce's answer, and that
he proposed to make evider.ce in the case.
The Lord Mayor asked who had the prisoners in charge
at the time.
Partridge, one of the gaolers, said they were in the
custody of Mundy, the other gaoler.
Mr. Bodkin then called
James Porter, who deposed that he was the husband
of Mrs. Porter, already examined. He was in court on
the last 'examination of the prisoner. During the ad-
journment, on the former occasion, he saw a man now
in court speak to Pearce. What he said he did not bear,
but he dis'inctly heard Pierce say in reply " Make away
with them—destroy them." The man shortly after left
the court.
A stout, big man, with a ruddy complexion, was then
ordered to stand forward, and ho was identified by
Porter as the man. In reply to questions from the Lord
Mayor and Mr. Bodkin, he said that his name was
Robert Dackombe, and that he was a stable-keeper,
residing at Lower Mitcham. He denied that he had
any communication with Pierce, as alleged. He said
that he knew Pierce; having on one occasion bought a
horse of him. He also denied leaving the Court till 5
o'clock, at the end of the day's proceedings.
From inquiries made by the Lord Mayor, it appeared
that the detectives who had charge of the prisoners were
unavoidably absent from the court at the time that they
were left in the charge of the two gaolers, whose
duties were divided on that occasion in con-
sequence of Alderman Wire sitting in another part of
the Mansion House for the disposal of the ordinary night
charges.
Inspector Mitchell, who at this period came into court,
said he had distinct recollection of seeing Dackombe
lean over the board at the back of the prisoner, and
communicate with Pierce. He leant forward but could
not hear what he said. It was just before five o'clock.
After some remarks from the Lord Mayor, who said
that police officers in charge of prisoners ought not to
leave them during the time they were under
examination, and that he would take mea-
sures to prevent the public from communicating in
future with prisoners in the dock,
Mr. Bodkin said he had thought it right to mention
the matter, leaving it to the Lord Mayor to deal with
Dack,mbe as he thought best.
Dackombe denied that he came to the Court other
than from curiosity, like many others.
The subject then dropped.
Mr. BAlkin then applied for a formal remand of the
prisoners to Monday next, and that then they should be
further remanded for a week. Such a course, he
thought, would save time, for by that time no doubt
Tester would be in custody.
That course was resisted by Mr. Wontner and Mr.
Lewis, and ultimately the prisoners were remanded
till Tuesday next, when evidence will be proceeded with,
and the bank notes traced.

EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAY,
(Meeting this Day)

A special general meeting of the shareholders in the
Eastern Counties Railway was held this day, at the
London Tavern, Bishopsgate-street, for the purpose of
electing a gentleman to fill the vacancy at the board of
direction occasioned by the election of Mr. Walters to
the office of chairman, in consequence of the resignation
of Mr. Waddington and his retirement from the active
direction of the affairs of the company.
There was a very large attendance of shareholders of
the company present.
The chair was taken by Mr. Walters, the new chair
man of the Board of Directors, who, in opening the pro•
ceedinge, briefly stated the objects for which they were
assembled, namely, the electing of a gentleman to fill
the office of director, occasioned by the retirement of Mr.
Waddington. He trusted that the meeting would give
a fair and quiet hearing to each gentleman, and after
again urging the necessity of conducting the business of
the day in a fair and proper manner, and with these few
observations he should call upon the meeting to coin•
mence the business of the day.
There were six candidates for the seat at the board,
viz., Mr. Malins, Mr. Orr, Mr. Morrison, Mr. Marner,
Mr. Welsh, and Mr. Love.
On the name of the first gentleman being proposed,
Mr. VANCE rose and addressed the meeting at great
length relative to the management of the company for
some years past. Ile characterised the actions of seve-
ral directors as highly improper, and mentioned parti-
cularly Messrs. Anderson, Patterson, and Fane. He
concluded by submitting a motion for the adoption of
the meeting, calling upon the whole of the directors to
i retire i❑ a body, or else to allow time to the three gen-
tlemen he had named, whose conduct had been viewed

with great displeasure by the majority of the sharehol•
derv, to retire.
The CHAIRMAN said he could not put the resolution to
the meeting for its adoption. It was open to the hon.
shareholder to move the adjournment of the meeting,
but the resolution he had submitted was clearly out of
order.
A long discussion ensued on the point as to whether
the act of Parliament did not prevent the chairman
putting the resolution by the fact of the directors
having been elected for three years.
Mr. NORRIS in the midst of the discussion said that
in order that the proceedings mig ht be gone through
regularly and properly, he should propose the name of
Mr. Horatio Love to fill the vacancy at the board.
The discussion upon the resolution of Mr Vance was
again resumed.
Mr. MILLS said the act of Parliament did not grant
that the directors should be elected for three years.
(Hear, hear.) It merely stated that the directors should
retire by rotation every three years.
A SHAREHOLDER moved;that the present meeting be
adjourned for a fortnight.
This proposition was met by loud cries of "No, no

The motion having been submitted to the meeting,
was negatived by a large maj aity.
Mr. NORRIS then, at some length, referred to the
services that Mr. Horatio Love had rendered the coin-
pany, and the exertions he had made in the late com-
mittee of investigation to place the affairs of the com-
pany in a healthy and prosperous position. He thought
that Mr. Matins would consult the interest of the
Eastern Counties Railway if he retired in favour of
Mr. Love. This was the first time the shareholders had
had it in their power to reward the exertions of Mr.
Love for his inestimable services to the csmmittee he
had before referred to. He had the pleasure of an intimate
acquaintance with Mr. Love, and from his personal
knowledge of that gentleman he could assure them that
a better man it was not possible to find, and if Mr. Love
was elected he was sure that all his efforts would be
directed to the keeping his own honour unsullied, and
the furthering of the interests of the com-
pany. What the meeting wanted was the Eastern
Counties Railway for the Eastern Counties shareholders,
and one of the first steps to the attainment of that object
would he the election of Mr. Love. If the meeting
wished for four new directors, then Mr. Love would be
the best quarter. In addition to the other qualifications
of Mr. Love, he was an accountant of the greatest abi•
lity, and the eulogiums that had been passed upon his
conduct at the unmasking of the great Hudson and hurl-
ing him from his tinsel throne ought to be a great in-
ducement to the shareholders to decide in favour of Mr.
Love. He had no doubt that Mr. Matins might be able
to do some good if elected ; but the vacancy, to fill which
they ha,t met to-day, ought to be filled up by the ap-
pointment of Mr. Love. (Cheers.)
A SHAREHOLDER said he had great pleasure in second-
ing the nomination of Mr. Love. He thought the share-
holders owed a debt of gratitude to Mr. Love, and they
ought to repay it by electing him to the vacant seat.
Mr. LANE begged to put a question to Mr. Matins.
He wished to know, in the event of Mr. Matins being
elected a director of this company, whether he intended
to retain the chairmanship of the Railway Reform

Association.
Mr. MauNa declined to answer that question.
Mr. LovE said that from the circumstance of Mr.
Malins refusing to answer the question, he had a right
to assume that he intended to retain it. Now, he
wished to know what would be the consequence of the
election of that gentleman. There was quite sufficient
at the board of the Eastern Counties Rail Nay to occupy
the time of any one man.
A SHAREHOLDER said he thought that a person who
was unable to manage his own affairs was not likely
to be a person fit to manage the affairs of others.
Mr. MALI/Ts said it was quite true that 30 years ago
he was unable to meet his own affairs, but it had been
his constant aim ever since to arrange and settle
them.
Various other speakers addressed the meeting, urging
the election of Mr. Love to the vacant seat.
Mr. DIALING then rose, and entered into an explana-
tion relative to certain share transactions in the Metro-
politan Railway, to the satisfaction of the meeting, and
said that, if elected to-day, his best exertions would be
used to place the affairs of the Eastern Counties Rail-
way in a prosperous condition. (Hear, hear.) With
respect to the chairmanship of the Railway Reform
Association, he thought there yet remained some impor-
tant alterations in railway affairs to be effected before he
vacated that office.
Mr. LovE then addressed the meeting, and said the
shareholders were perfec ly aware of his capabilities, and
if they thought that he could serve them he would be
only tact happy to do so. It was his wish, his desire to
serve them ; and if elected to the board his only anxiety
would be how best to promote their interests. (Loud
cheers.)
Mr. AcraND said the circumstance of two champions
both fighting for railway reform seemed to him to be
occasioned by a mistake on the part of Mr. Malins, who
laboured under the delusion that he was the better man.
(Hear, hear, and laughter.) The person who ought to
be elected to the vacant seat at the board ought to
be a man of experience, judgment, and tact ; but such a
man was not Mr. Malins. (Laughter.) The speaker
went on to allude to certain transactions in the
Metropolitan Railway in which Mr. Malins was
concerned, land said it became the shareholders
of that company to be sure that they selected the
best man to fill the vacant seat—one who stood
well in the city of London in fact, they ought