The Sun.
London, England, 1833-12-19 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS.

their post-horse tickets.
LICHFIELD, DEC. 13.—The inquiry into
our Corporation is at an end. Nothing of consequence
has been elicited, nor was it ever presumed that anything
of consequence was at anytime attached to so powerless
a body. It has been always too poor to be corrupt, and
we really believe too honest also; nor has it ever pos-
sessed sufficient talent to be mischievous. The only as-
signable motive for its disloyal contumacy is a desire, on
the part of its members, that the public should be made
acquainted with its existence.
Messrs. Cockburn and Rushton, the Corpo-
ration Commissioners, commenced their inquiry into the
state of the Corporation of Derby on Monday. The
Mayor (Douglas Fox, Esq.) addressed the Court at consi-
derable length, in the course of which he stated that the
Corporation were prepared to give every information to
the Commissioners ; but lest these proceedings should be
brought forward as a precedent in future, be, on the
part of the Corporation, expressed his conviction that
there was no legal authority to compel them to accede
to the present inquiry. The investigation was then gone
through. The salary of the master of the grammar school is
601. He has only one scholar !—StaffordshireAdvertiser.
The process of making biscuits by machinery,
which has been hitherto confined to the Royal yard at
Gosport, is likely to come into more general use. It is
also attracting to a certain extent the attention of foreign
Powers, among the rest the Pacha of Egyp, fur whom
an order for such machines is at present in course of exe-
cution, and one of them has been sent out as a specimen
to Constantinople. A house at Wapping, engaged in the
business of biscuit-baking, has one of these machines, as
a correspondent informs us, now in operation. It is
worked by an engine of six-horse power, and is capable
of producing 5 cwr. of biscuit in an hour, requiring, how-
ever, in addition, the labour of seven men, which is about
one-half the nuiaber required by the ordinary process to
manufacture the same quantity within the same time.
SUBWAYS.—A meeting of a Committee of
the Commissioners of Sewers was held yesterday morn-
ing, for the purpose of hearing evidence as to the prac-
ticability of subways in the new line of street from
London Bridge. The Committee were attended by Mr.
Williams, the patentee; Mr. Mylne, on the part of the
New River Company ; Mr. Sangster, one of the directots
of the City Gas Company; Mr. Lutwych and Mr. Gude.
Mr. Williams was heard at some length on the advantages
to be derived by the public by the formation of sub-
ways, and as there did not appear to be any substantial
objection to laying gas and water mains and pipes therein,
Mr. Mylne and Mr. Sangster were then called upon by
the Chairman to know what their respective Companies
would contribute towards the undertaking, which they
were not prepared to state. Mr. Gude was proceeding
to lay before the Committee some important evidence to
show the expediency of subways, when the Committee
adjourned, requesting Mr. Sangster and Mr. Mylne to
ascertain what their respective Companies would contri-
bute, and Mr. Williams to be prepared with an estimate
of the expense, to be laid before them at their next meet-
ing. It was observed, that if subways are adopted, they
may be sufficiently lighted, warmed, and ventilated for
many purposes not heretofore contemplated.

The course which England seems at length
to be adopting for the protection of the East of
Europe from Russian violence is the easiest as
well as the wisest. It is a preventive policy,
which is, in general, far better than a remedial
one,—and with this advantage, that the means
of prevention abound on the very theatre where
they have become requisite ; whilst if the appre-
hended evil—namely, the conquest of Con-
,tantiroplc by Russia—be once complete, those
facilities, natural and political, which may now
be regarded as instruments placed in the hands
of England for the defeat of unjust aggression,
must all have the effect of weights in the oppo-
site scale, and will be employed as so many
powers agait3t her. The Euxine and the Dar-
danelles form at this moment a high road for the
advance of the British and French armaments,
naval and military, against the centre of the
Russian resources; if once in the exclusive power
of Russia, she hermetically seals the narrow strait,
and the Euxine becomes an internal water com-
munication of more importance to the Czar
than would a dozen separate rivers, each of
them equi7alent to the Danube. The finest
forests in Europe, and the most eligible posi,
tions for dockyards, with an unmolested launch
of fleets of any magnitude into the Mediterra-
nean, would thus be transferred from a tenth-rate
power, like the Turkey of the 19th century, to
one of the highest rank, and of thy most en-
croaching and formidable policy, such as, thanks
to the negligence and moral weakness of the
• west of Europe, Russia must now be considered.
Again, the newly created empire of Mehemet
Ali is a mighty engine of defence against Rus-
sia, which it would be utter madness in Great
Britain to repel from her, or superciliously to
despise. Mehemet has 100,000 brave and dis-
ciplined soldiers, under an able chief; a good
fleet ; an unobstructed path to the Asiatic
shore of the Bosphorus ; and would, if seated
on the throne of Constantinople, present a dif-
ferent front to Czar Nicholas from that of the
unfortunate and irredeemably fallen Mahmoud.
Mehemet Ali is attached to England ; he knows
that her interests and policy are far from irrecon-
cilable to his own ; he has long courted her
countenance and friendship ; and William IV.'s
Ministers have but to speak the word, which
will rivet the Egyptian conqueror to this country.
Times.

The article in the last Quarterly Review,
entitled " The Reform Ministry and the Re-
formed Parliament," might be better described
" Lord Brougham and Law Reform ;" for the
greater portion of it (fifteen pages) is devoted
to the Chancellor, and his exertions in the
capacity of a law reformer. The animus of the
article is so obvious, that no unprejudiced per-
son could peruse it without suspecting misre-
presentation, though he might not be able to
detect it. Many of the misrepresentations, how-
ever, lie on the surface, and an exposure of the
more obvious ones almost immediately followed
the publication. But the subject deserved an
examination in all its bearings, by some one
from his talents and acquirements qualified to
do justice to it ; and the result of such an ex-
amination has made its appearance under the
title of " A Refutation of the Calumnies against
the Lord Chancellor, contained in the last
number of the Quarterly Review, in an article
upon the pamphlet entitled The Reform Minis-
try and the Reformed Parliament.' " The
writer examines in succession such of the charges
of the Reviewer as are sufficiently definite to
admit discussion, which he distributes under
the following heads :—" The nomination of Mr.
James Brougham to the office of clerk of the
patents and registrar of affidavits ; the Chancery
Regulation Act of the last session, and its
compensation clauses ; the new Bankruptcy
Court, and the secretary of bankrupts ; the
transfer of the appointment of Masters in
Chancery from the Chancellor to the Crown ; the
appointment of Country Commissioners of
Bankrupts ; the mode in which Lord Brougham
has exercised his patronage ; the Act for the
better Administration of Justice in the Privy
Council ; the Right Honourable James Aber-
cromby's retiring allowance ; the carelessness
with which the Acts proposed by the Govern-
ment are drawn ; the arrears of business in the
Lord Chancellor's Court; and lastly, the inten-
tion of Lord Brougham to divest himself of his
judicial functions—retaining his present salary."
As, in handling these topics, the writer has
closely confined himself to the question before
him, avoiding all idle disquisition and super-
fluous declamation, it becomes difficult to ex-
hibit, in the limits of a newspaper, the sub-
stance of a pamphlet of 109 pages. We will,
therefore, merely advert to one or two of the
topics at present, and resume the subject on a
future day. The first charge against the Chan-
cellor has reference to the nomination of Mr.
James Brougham to the offices of Clerk of the
Patents and Registrar of Affidavits. Here the
Reviewer is charged with intentional misrepre-
sentation. Mr. James Brougham was appointed
in June, 1832, and the offices were abolished by
2 & 3 W. 4, c. 3, " when the Chancellor's
brother claimed no compensation—an act of
such unusual moderation, that the Reviewer
exerts his utmost ingenuity and sophistry to
detract from its merit ; and, finding that
these alone would not effect his purpose,
he scruples not to assert facts, with the gross
incorrectness of which every line which he has
written affords ample proof that no one was
better acquainted than himselE" The Reviewer
had stated that the places in question " might
have been filled by anv common clerk ;" that
" Lord Brougham, without saying one word
upon the subject in the House of Lords or
favourLi,oooi . of
a the
year, Chan-
cellor's wasn-
om
c lsalaryons o inf
elsewhere, appoints his brother James to them;"
that " a recommendation of' a Committee of the
l o Houser, of
present Commons,
m
s
grounded upon the giving up of this and other
sinecure offices ;" that " his brother had no
vested right, and was not entitled to any com-
pensation ;" and if there was any title to com-
pensation, that " such compensatoin was afforded
by the Act which assigned the additional 1,0001.
to the Chancellor upon resignation or removal."
The writer opposes to the Reviewer the opinion
expressed by Lord Eldon, as to the nature of one
of the offices—the Registrar of Affidavits.
" To my knowledge (said his Lordship,) and
I have no doubt to the knowledge of every
member of the profession, there does attach to
it very considerable business, and very heavy
responsibilities." Lord
offices, on
Bill for the abolition of the Chancery
destruction of them would
the ground that the
.Wynford opposed the
due provision s iould be made for
time as of the duties attached
the future discharge
As to the allegation that Lord
thereto.
Brougham appointed his brother without
be inexpedient and. i.njuriolus, at least until such
saying a word to any one, it was distinctly stated

liy'F,arl Grey, that " immediately after the late
Unfortunate eret,t had placed at the disposal of
my Noble and Learned Friend the situation in
question, he communicated the occurrence to
Inc, and also communicated his intention of
proceeding with his Bill (for the abolition of the
Sinecure Offices) in an unaltered form." Next,
as to the allegation that there was a recommen-
dation of a Committee of the House of Com-
mons in favour of the salary of 14,0001.,
grounded on the giving up of these offices, the
Committee, of which Mr. Alexander Baring
was Chairman, was appointed early in 1831,
examined the Chancellor on the 13:h February
of that year, and report that they entirely concur
in that part of his Lordship's evidence which
recommends a fixed salary in lieu of fees and
perquisites of all kinds, and they conclude by
themselves recommending that such fixed salary
should not be less than 14,0001. a year, being
5001. per annum less than the emoluments of
the person holding the Great Seal, upon an
average of the three preceding years, after de-
duction of the 2,5001. contributed towards the
Vice-Chancellor's salary. " Will it be credited
(says the writer), that the Report contains not
one iota respecting the giving up of these
Qffices ?' It is true that Lord Brougham, in a
rapid sketch of his intended Reforms, avowed,
that if he could obtain the concurrence of Parlia-
ment, it was his strongest disposition to divest
the Great Seal of all that patronage, without any
exception, which had heretofore gone to the
maintenance of the Chancellor's family; but the
Report of the Committee is wholly silent on the
subject, and the recommendation of the salary
of 14,0001. is not grounded upon the giving up
of any offices, but proceeds upon the above
stated principles alone. Had the Committee
confined themselves simply to the recommenda-
tion of the salary of 14,000/., there might have
been some colour for alleging that the prospec-
tive abolition of these offices influenced them in
fixing the amount ; but they expressly state the
rea,ons of such recommendation, from which it
isincontestable that the extinction of these
places, so long used as provisions for the relatives
of our Chancellors and Lord Keepers, was not
n
into the account." So long ago as 1798,
the Finance Committee, of which the late Lord
Colchester was Chairman, reported that all the
Chancery offices executed by deputy might be
reduced, " not only without detriment to the
public service, hut with very great and important
advantages to the public in point of economy,
as well as of general example ;" but the recom-
mendation was disregarded by all succeeding
Chancellors, and the Act of 2 and 3 William
IV. preserves inviolate even remote and con-
tingent rights, with the single exception of
the places yielding to the brother of the author
of that Bill an income of 2,8001. per annum.
The Act for abolishing Chancery Sinecures
received the Royal Assent on the 15th of
August, 1832. This Act extinguishes the
places of Registrar of Affidavits and Clerk of the
patents ; but it leaves untouched all the rights
in possession or reversion to a swarm of other
sinecure officers. There was no peculiarity in
the nomination of Mr. James Brougham to
distinguish it from the appointments of Lords
Eldon and Lyndhurst. There was no pledge,
and there could have been no pledge with re-
spect to them prior to .the month of June,
1832, " as it is evident from what then passed
in Parliament, that the Sinecure Chancery
Offices had not previously to that time on any
occasion formed the topic of Cabinet delibera-
ticn." We have entered at some length into
this topic, because it is of great importance that
public men should not be defrauded of the
reputation to which their conduct may entitle
them. The public are entitled to have the
faults or failings of Lord Brougham, or any
other public men pointed out. But it no less
concerns the public that these servants should
receive approbation when entitled to it. It never
can benefit the public that they should be led
to believe that there is no such thing as disin-
terestedness ; that all pretence to honour and
honesty is a farce; that professions are uni-
formly made for purposes of deception alone ;
and that the practice always belies them.
When men hear these cold and humiliating
lessons constantly repeated, they are but too
apt to make their own conduct square with
them. The principle of Constitutional Go-
vernment is, that every man should be watched ;
but this does not imply that every man should be
calumniated. We have never heard the Chan-
cellor charged by those who know him best,
with an undue love of money; and we regard,
therefore, the attempt of the Quarterly Re-
viewer to hold him up as a selfish, avaricious
hypocrite—a proficient in the art of throwing
dust in the eyes of the public to enable him the
more successfully to pick their pockets, as a
most unwarrantable mode of political warfare.
We agree with the writer of the pamphlet, in
believing that this mode of assailing the Chan-
cellor does not meet the approbation of the
Tories in general. "It would be unjust (he
observes) to the Tories in general, were I to
conclude, without showing, that whatever may
be the sentiments of the Reviewer, they are
participated only by the most virulent or the
most bigotted of his political associates. In that
very debate, in which certain expressions were
used, that some are so vain as to believe the
upper Whigs are ashamed of,' Lord Grey con-
cluded a speech, of which a part has been al-
ready quoted, by stating that conduct, of the
nature above referred to, was utterly inconsistent
with the whole tenor of Lord Brougham's life ;
and the Duke of Wellington added, I concur
in the latter part of what has fallen from the
Noble Earl. The present has not been the
only sacrifice made by the Noble and Learned
Lord on the Woolsack. I believe that the
Noble Lord made a sacrifice of several thou-
sands a year, by the measure which he brought
before Parliament nearly two years ago ; and for
which, as far as I can learn, Parliament, though
now sitting two years, has yet made him no
compensation.' " We shall, on a future day,
resume the examination of this able pamphlet.
—Morning Chronicle.
Our readers must perceive in some of the
German and Hamburg papers a decree of the
Diet for the suppression of the Nuremburg
Gazette. A long series of other liberal journals
is also recapitulated in the same statement as
having incurred the prohibitory interdict of the
Holy Alliance. 10 suppress the voice of
the press is one part of the great confe-
deration of the colleagued European ultras
against free opinion and human improve-
ment—now again about to hold confer.
ence at Vienna. This is always the way in
which the mock principle of Conservatism exhi-
bits its,eloven hoof. What was claimed of
Switz9ltl: by Prussia arid Austria ? The ex-
clusictelif liberal works. What of Italy by
Austria? The same. What was the first act of j
Ferdinand on his restoration in Spain ? Of

Miguel, on his usurpation in Portugal? The abo-
lition of the liberty of the press. What the last
convulsive effort of Charles the Tenth's expiring
tyranny? The necessity offettering the press. What
the preliminary act of the Russian " barbarian,"
when about to crush out the life of Polish inde-
pendence ? The suffocation of the voice of the
press. 'What has been lately claimed of Wir-
temberg and Bavaria by that combined trinity
of mischief, the Holy Alliance ? Decrees for
silencing the press. The self-defeating ab-
surdity, however, of these acts is fortunately
as great as the pertinacious malignity of their
purpose. What do the absolute despots ima-
gine that they can effect in semi-constitutional
states, by thus stifling the recognized organs of
public opinion ? Do they suppress the opinion
itself because they treacherously or forcibly de-
prive it of its natural channel ? Real violence
is not the way to cure alleged violence of in-
tention, more especially as its exaggeration dis-
covers to the keen eye of oppressed hostility,
the fear in which it originates. No 1.-11 the
Liberals of Germany were formidable before, they
will be a thousand-fold more formidable in con-
sequence of these decrees and combinations
against the press. They will brood in secret
rancour over their wrongs, instead of giving
harmless vent to whatever 'dissatisfaction they
may feel through public discussion. Humi-
liation will increase the thirst for ♦engeance, and
where they previously only thought, it is to
be feared by the despots that they may in
future strike. Even lately the selection of
one of the towns for the recent conference be-
tween the three Sovereigns, betrayed the intima-
tion that those who enact the dictatorial part of
Caesar's character must take precautions against
Caesar's risks. It was officially announced that
no strangers were to be admitted into the town.

So it will ever be with those who think tha

by extorting " lip homage," and silencing the
thoughts of the heart, they are enabled to change
them. Where is it that the assassin prowls
for his prey ; and where that the sense of
public wrong, long pent up, bursts forth
without notice into some revolutionary erup-
tion, which sweeps every thing before the

lava torrent of its path ? In countries where
opinion is silenced amidst " curses not loud but
deep," and where the press is not free. Let
the blind tyrants, therefore, who suppress
opinion tremble for the consequences to them-
selves. As to the future consequences to the
improvement of the world from their pigmy
efforts to arrest the steady sublimity of its
march, we have too much faith in the elastic
spring and recuperative energy of mind to con-
ceive the possibility of its being long beaten
down by any combined force of the conservative
and despotic factions.

" Tyrants, in vain ye trace the wizard ring,
In vain ye limit mind's unweriied spring."
If it be forced to descend it is with laborious
flight," and in opposition to its native proper-
ties and buoyant tendencies. The attempt to
crush it will make it throw forth more vigorous
shoots, and aspire with more contemptuous
energy into the free atmosphere.—Morning
Advertiser.

'and knowing as how the donkey vas used to sich
things, I lets him have ir.—( Laughter.)
Jem—Please your Vortship I never says a vord
about bricks and mortar. I only said as how I was
going to make a tower in the country.
Charley—Veil, I never says you did, Jem ; I
says I thought you vere going to draw the bricks
with the donkey to build this here tower.
Jem—Build what tower, you stupid old fool ?
Charley—Vy that same gammoning tower of
yourn, vot has diddled me out of my donkey and
drag.

Jem—Now I begins to know vot you means. I
didn't mean any sort of buildings; I meant a tower
round the country to pick up things for Christmas
in the reg'lar way of bnsiness like.
Charley—Vell, I doesn't know vot you means
'bout towering about the country, but you have
properly towered me out of my donkey, vot is vorth
a mint of money.
Jem—l declares the donkey is all right.
Charley—May be so; but I'se all wrong ; vere
is the hanirnal ? That's the ticket. So a few days
ago I meets my nabs here, arid says I, " Jem, ben't
you a pretty sort of a chap never to bring the don-
key back ?" Says he, " Charley, my boy, the
donkey is all right in the country, and has got
plenty of grub and lives like a gentleman." Then
I axes him about the tower, and he said as how it
warn't quite finished; and so I thought I was regu-
larly swindled, arid I gives him in charge.
The defendant was' now called upon for his de-
fence, when it appeared that the march of intellect
had made such rapid strides that the " tower"
mentioned by the defendant to the complaining cos-
termonger was a " tour" in the country.
Charley said that he certainly applied to his
friend the complainant for his donkey to make a
tower in the country, but not to bring bricks arid
mortar.

Jem—Vhat then ? Charley—Vy I vanted the
hanimal to bring home misletoe and holly to sell at
Christmas, and any thing as I might pick up in my
vay ; but it warn't no go; the gardners keeps too
sharp a 100k-out, and so I gets about 255. in debt
in the country, and so they lumbers the poor
hanimal because as how I could'nt pay my reckoning.l
On being further questioned the prisoner could
not tell in what part of the country the donkey was
detained for his ieckoning, but it was some thirty or
forty miles from London.
There being very strong suspicions that the de-
fendant had illegally disposed of the said donkey he
was ordered to be remanded.
Sarah Gardner, a well-known utterer of base coin,
and James Cully were charged with coining and
having in their possession a quantity of counterfeit
money.
Mr. Powell, the solicitor for the Mint, proved
ti at all the money was base, and the prisoners were
fully committed for trial.
Yesterday Mrs. Isabella .Zones, an elderly per-
sonage, of No. 20, Doyley-street, Chelsea, was
charged before Mr. WHITE with being very drunk
on the previous evening at chapel.
Mrs. Jones professes to be one of the most moral
and religious persons in the parish, and never omits
going to chapel whenever service is performed. Her
piety at home is also very conspicuous, for she is
constantly at her devotion both morning and night,
and apparently extremely anxious for the salvation
of her soul ; but praying is dry work, and she is in
the habit of indulging herself with some of Hodges'
best cordial gin during her orisons, when she fre-
quently becomes so inspired that she will sing
hymns from morning to night, to the astonishment
of all the neighbours, who consider her to be a
model of piety, and an example of all the youth in
the parish. Yesterday, however, Mrs. Jones un-
fortunately had taken too much of her favourite in-
spiring liquor, and when she got to Ranelagh
Chapel, Chelsea, and about to commence her devo-
tions, her conduct and manner were so extraordinary
that it was found necessary to send for a police
constable to remove her from the chapel, and she
was taken to the station-house for the night to
finish her prayers.
Mrs. Jones, in reply, said that she had been
troubled with a pain in her bowels during the day,
and she had taken a little drop, which took effect
upon her when she got to chapel.
The charge was not pressed, and Mr. WHITE
discharged her, after recommending her to be more
careful in her potations for the future.
Mr. Jones, the husband of the pious lady, here
stepped forward, and begged of the Magistrate not
to let his wife go i.vithout giving her a lecture on
drinking. It was of no use to conceal the fact, for
do what he would he could not keep her from the
bottle, morning or night, when she could get it.
Mr. WHITE told him that his wife was discharged,
and he must read the lecture himself.
Mr. Jones left the office sighing, and his wife
turned up the whites of her eyes to the ceiling, and
appeared to be inwardly praying.
HATTON-GARDEN.
A young man of gentlemanly address, attired as
a naval officer, who represented himself as Captain
John Foster, was brought from the station-house,
Kina's Cross, Battle.bridge, charged by Henry
Humphries, the driver of the cabriolet No. 1,307,
with being drunk, refusing to pay his fare, and the
following most impudent fraud :
The prosecutor, on Tuesday morning, about half-
past ten o'clock, was on the coach-stand in Regent-
street, near Conduit-street, when he saw the pri-
soner strutting along, attired in the costume of a
naval officer, and presently he hailed him, and, on
driving over to the pavement, he jumped into his
cab, and gave him orders to drive as fast us he pos-
sibly could to Deptford. Witness proceeded on,
and in the course of a short time the prisoner be-
came exceedingly chatty, told witness that he was a
Captain, and that he was about making arrange.
ments preparatory to leaving England for Sydney.
On their arrival at Deptford he stopped at a tavern,
and had luncheon, and treated witness, who con-
ceived him to be a perfect gentleman ; and on again
entering the cab, he ordered witness to drive him
to Greenwich, and on coming in view with the
River Thames, he said, " Ay, my lad, do you see
that ship there ?" pointing at a large ship. "Yes,
Sir," replied witness. " This is one of my ships,"
said the prisoner; " I mean to go in her to Sydney
next week;" and he gave witness a long history of
the dangers of the sea, and the vicissitudes of a
sailor's life, until they arrived at one of the principal
inns, where witness stopped,and the prisoner alighted,
and prior to leaving the place he heard the prisoner
in very familiar conversation with the landlord, who
handed to him half-a-crown. He was then ordered to
drive to Wool wich, where prisoner again stopped at a
tavern, and directed the waiters to provide dinners for
himself and witness, which they sat down to and
ate with good appetite, and during the period the
prisoner exhibited something having the appearance
of a bank-note, but complained of being short of
change. He ultimately told witness that he was in
haste to get back to London, and seemed to be in
great anxiety to quit the tavern, and he came to
witness and called out, " Hoy, my man, have you
got any loose silver about you ? Lend me 7s. 6d.
until I get back to London," Witness unsuspect-
ingly handed him the money, and in a few minutes
he returned, and, getting into the cab, ordered him
to drive back to London. He again stopped at
Greenwich, and went into a public-house, where he
entered intoa csotylvdearesyatrotrda
nawri, now tht,he
lylairriwdlotrhd,thteo
whom he represented himself as Captain Foster, of
Iti'lheamfiesTer;ear Greenwich. The landlord said he
had a son at Sydney, to whom he wanted to send a
parcel, and the prisoner offered his services to deli-
ver it to him, as he was about to sail for Sydney;
but with all his anxiety and proffered services he
could not get it, and they started
aoanffadefolphrleacLperoitnsaodtroihener,
orderedwhere
witness arrivedto drivein th the evening;bout from
other, until his patience was nearly worn out, and,
finding that the prisoner made several awkward at-
tempts to escape, he suggested the necessity of be.
ing paid his fare and the Is. 6d. before he drove him
any farther, when the prisoner became bounceable,