The Sun.
London, England, 1833-08-20 00:00:00

LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 20, 1833.

FRENCH PAPERS.

The following is copied from the Temps:—
The Duke de Damas, the Governor of the Duke dp
Bordeaux, is in high disgrace with the Gazette
de France. The Duke de Damas is accused by the
Legitimatist Journal of wishing to form the heart
and mind of the young Price upon the model of his
own. He has said to M. de Barande, "One of us must
retire; I cannot act with a man whose sentiments are so
independent as yours." The Gazette states that Father
Duplau and Father Dronillet, two Jesuits, have been ap-
pointed preceptors of the young Duke, in the room of M.
de Barande; but Queen Marie Therese (for so the Ga.
zette persists i❑ calling the Duchess d'Angouleme) disap-
proves of all this, and begins to exercise the rights with
which she was invested by the Duchess de Berri. The
Gazette de France expects great success from these steps,
and goes on to say—" We believe things will not remain
in their present state, arid that from September 29 (the
day when the King of France, the Duke, would become
of age) the household and education of the young King
will be entirely separated from the men who surround
Charles X. The 29th September is the great day on
which important ever.ts have been predicted by the Ga.
zctte ; but the 29th of September will pass away in
the same manner as the 28th of September, or the Ist of
October.

PARIS, Atm. 15.—The exchange of the ratifications of
the Convention, ralative to the mails between France and
England, bas not yet taken place, on account of some de-
fect of form. It is, however, announced, that the daily
mails will commence to-day (the 15th), and that the Lon-
don Post office will likewise despatch a mail, beginning
to•day....oloniteur, Aug. 16.

Yesterday (the l 4tb) being the fete of the Queen Donna
Maria, a great number of persons went to the hospital of
Braganza to pay their compliments. All the Portuguese
at Paris and many persons of distinction attended on this
occasion.

The Queen and the Empress will set out for Portugal
in a few days.
BASLE, Alto. 10.—The two following proclamations
have been published:—
" Dear Fellow-citizens and faithful Inhabitants,—The
Great Council resolved in its sitting yesterday to submit
to the occupation of our city by the federal troops. Dear
fellow-citizens, you have the assurance that these troops
come among us not as enemies but as brethren, and con-
federatory as a friendly reception : they promise to commit
no violation of your property or pet sonal security ; not to
disturb the legal order, and to respect your liberty.
Receive them then as confederates—as brethren; show
them the friendship, the kindness which you have often
shown before, and let not the unhappy events of late years
efface from your minds the remembrance of three centuries
of happiness which the federal compact has procured you."
The second proclamation encourages the citizens not to
despond, but to preserve the concord which has hitherto
b. on the source of their happiness:—

PROCLAMATION OF THE FEDERAL COMMISSIONERS TO
THE INHABITANTS OF THE TWO PARTS OF THE CANTON

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, AUGUST 19.

The House resumed at about a quarter-past five o'clock,
when not above twenty Members were present.
Mr. Knight, from the Bank of England, appeared at
the bar with papers relative to the renewal of the charter.
Mr. TOOKE moved for a return of the amount of
fees received by the Lord Chancellor's Secretary of Luna-
tics, and the number of Commissions issued during the
years 1831 and MR.—Ordered.
Mr. O'DWYER presented a petition from Mr.
John Kent Johnson, of Dublin, complaining of the
monopoly enjoyed by Post•offce clerks in the trade
of newspapers; also a petition from the landowners of the
barony of Lower Duleeke (as we understood) in the county
of Meath, for an alteration in the grand jury laws.
Mr. BLAMIRE moved for certain returns respecting
the suits instituted in the county of Lancaster for tithes,
b.tween the 16th August, 1830, and 16th August, 1833,
with the names of the defendants in each parish.—Ordered.
Mr. LITTLETON presented a petition from Leeke, is
Staffordshire, praying that if the borough of Stafford be
disfranchised, the franchise be extended to Leeke, a town
which contained 11,000 inhabitants.

Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition from the parish
of S. George, Middlesex, respecting the state of the
sewers in that district.

Lord ALTHORP moved the order of the day for the
House to go into a Committee of Ways and Means.
Mr. HUTT rose to complain
.of the monopoly which
existed in respect to the Hull and Barton ferry—a ferry
which crossed the Humber. He regretted to be obliged
to bring the subject forward now, but be should not have
another opportunity to bring it forward, and if he waited
until next session it would be too late. It was needless
for him to inform the House that a monopoly existed in
allowing the public to pass from Hull to Barton ; the cor-
poration held that monopoly under a lease from the
Crown, and they granted an under lease to a private
company at 8001. a-year ; a tax was therefore
laid on persons who passed from a commercial
town to an agricultural district, and a monopoly esta-
blished such as was inconsistent with the declaration of hie
Majesty's Government. One of the leases would terminate
at Michaelmas, and his (Mr. Hutt's) object was that the
lease should not be renewed, which it was said that Go-
vernment intended to do. If that monopoly were abo-
lished it would allow of a competition that would be
beneficial to the public. The inhabitants of Hull had
taken up the subject with so much zeal that a
petition against the renewal of the lease had
already been presented from them to the number of 5,000,
against the monopoly, and he (Mr. Hutt) had a petition
in his possession, which he was sorry he had not an op-
portunity of presenting, signed by 1,500 persons to the
same effect. If the Noble Lord (Althorp) would consent
to give up the monopoly of that ferry, it would confer a
great benefit on the town and neighbourhood, but if
he refused, he (Mr. Hutt) might as well expect
that next session the Noble Lord would establish
a similar monopoly on the river Thames.—(Hear, bear.)
He entreated the Noble Lord to consider what he was
about, and he hoped that no consideration or wish to
conciliate those whom be might desire to gain
over as his friends, would induce him to take
a step that would be detrimental to the public
interests, or tend to engender popular discontent,
and destroy that cheerful obedience to the law
which governed the people of this part of the country. He
moved that an humble address be presented to his Majesty,
praying that his Majesty would be pleased to direct the
Lords Commissioners of the Woods and Forests not to
renew the lease of the Barton and Hull Ferry.
Mr. PRYME wished to know on what principle a
monopoly was to be claimed on this high road across a
river, any more than a monopoly might be claimed on any
high road across land? It was most important to the
people of Hull that this monopoly should no longer exist.
Lord DUNCANNON said, that this had been long the
subject of controversy between the Hon. Members for
Lincolnshire and Yorkshire—both bad been anxious that
the tolls should remain in the hands of the Crown. They
were all out of town at present, or no doubt
they would have been ready to have stated their
reasons, but those reasons he believed were that a maxi-
mum had been put on the tolls, which it was considered
would give satisfaction if adopted. He understood this
arrangement bad been agreed to. He was sorry that he
had received the Hon. Member's notice so late to-day as
to have made it impossible for him to have brought down
with him the precise terms of the arrangement.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY hoped the Noble Lord would
not comply with the terms of this motion. This was no
monopoly. This was a modest application under the head
of an attack upon monopoly to benefit the people of Hull.
He thought the easiest way would be for the parties di-
rectly interested to purchase the lease, and thus to throw
the passage way open for the benefit of the town
of Hull. He (Mr. D. W. Harvey) had seen the plan,
and believed the rent paid to the Woods and Forests to be
a fair one ; but he could see no grounds fur an application
fur the Crown to give up the rental, whatever the
amount might be. If small in amount, it was the
easier purchaseable by the p arties who were interested ;
fur his own part he wished it were 2 or 3,000/. per an-
num, instead of 2 or 3001. for the benefit of the revenue.
If the Noble Lord acceded to this request, he (M. W.)
had constituents in the county of Essex, who would be
quite ready to avail themselves of the feeling, and to make
a similar application for relief front crown rent.—(Hear
and laughter.) _ .

Sir E. KNATCIIBULL and Lord AITHOR! made a few
observations which were inaudible.

Mr. WARBURTON said, if the application were for
the putting an end to a monopoly--as he understood it to
be—and that upon public grounds, it deserved the atten-
tion of the House. He was of opinion that all such pri-
vileges of the Crown, where they militated against the
convenience of the public, ought to be given up.
Colonel TORRENS said, the monopoly was certaiuiy a
most objectionable one, and it appeared that there were
numberless applications against its being further established.
It was a right of way from immemorial usage, on which
there should be no tax whatever. It was most objection-
able, on all just principles, to tax the conveyance of pas-
sengers across this river.

The question was then put, and negatived without a
division.

On the question that the Speaker do now leave the
chair,
Mr. O'DWYER rose to call the attention of the House
to a report of a speech contained in an Irish newspaper,
purporting to be the charge delivered by an Irish
Judge, Baron Pennefather, and which he thought there
would be no difficulty in persuading the House was a di-
rect interference with its privileges.—(Hear, bear.)
It was of course to be expected that when the Irish Grand
Jury Bill hail passed through that House, and was about
becoming part of the law of the land, the constituted
authoriti:s should have exerted themselves as much as
possible to give it effect, and not to exercise their im-
portant functions to interfere with its operation. The
Learned Judge described the measore.as an attack on the
property of the country. He said, " Are we to give the
preference in elections of Grand Jury to men of small pro-
perty over those of great estate and character?"
Sir E. KNATCHBULL rose to order. It was, only a
newspaper report, and the House could not proceed
without its authentication.
Mr. O'DWYER said that the charge was so monstrous
that he should treat it as a fabrication or calumny.
The SPEAKER reminded the Hon. Gentleman that
the question was upon the House going into Committee
of ways and means, and hoped he would make his speech
belr upon that question.
Mr. O'DWYER, after some extraneous observations,
begged to ask the Right Hon. Secretary whether he knew
ot such a charge having been delivered, and could lay
before the House a correct copy of it ?
Mr. Lir I'LETON said that be did not know that the
Government had the right or the power to control the
charges of judges. Ile had certainly seen the charge in
the papers, and had read it with much surprise.
Mr. SHAW knew that some of the language in that
charge was not such as the Learned Baron would have
used, and he was certain he had only acted as an inde-
pendent judge might properly act.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL begged to say that a.
judge, who in his address to a grand jury became a partisan?.
and took upon himself to defend or blame any measure
pending before the Legislature, was very likely to bring
his office int* discredit, and depart from his strict line of
duty.
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Mr. WALLACE said the Judges generally had most
peculiar and important functions to discharge in respect to
Grand Juries; but the evil had grown to a monstrous

extent, in employing their time upon other subjects,
without discharging their regular duties. During a long
course of years that evil had existed, and he was sorry to
-ay it bad spread to a great extent. If the speech com-
plained of was really delivered by a Judge in discharge
of his public duty, he had abused that time which he
should have devoted to other purposes. Judges should
have the utmo‘t latitude allowed them in discharging
their duty towards Grand Juries ; but it was not the duty
of any Judge to make politics a part of his speech,—
I t was an abuse of power to give an opinion in this case,
and to canvass the Grand Jury Bill.
Mr. C. FERGUSSON censured the conduct which had
been pursued by the Learned Judge.
Mr. O'REILLY expressed his surprise that the Hon.
and Learned Member for Dublin University should assert
that a Judge might charge a jury and speak upon a poli-
tical measure. He was aware that the same judge had,
on a former occasion, declared upon the introduction of
the Irish Reform Bill that it was a revolutionary measure.
Mr. HUME trusted that the Right Hon. Secretary for
Ireland would think it his duty to ascertain whether this
report was correct or not.
Mr. LITTLETON was not aware how he could
ascertain this fact, but he must repeat he had read the
report with great surprise.