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London, England, 1833-03-14 00:00:00

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persons out of doors?—(Cheers fironuel:nyrojeastg,
There was an appearance of persona qlr. Homo errif;
—(Cheers, and cries of "Oh !") He (I' fine ht M
would On
that the Right Hon. Gentleman
he held it nn° eat
what passed within those walls, „f the r'°
Is
consistent with the practice and ru ace
nolo
the Hon. and Learned Member with inskti.4„s„nooel
allude to matters which had taken
was
not pree
—(Laughter.) Whilst be (Mr. 11", net Lon. and 1435
to defend the expressions used by the " petttP.
Gentleman towards the Hon. Member (00.,,eereor,
0; it ‘rsj.dr
becoming to him; It was wrong in Ho ad' rap'',
considered the remarks of
to sh"tr.„ berf'
ticularl so in a Cabinet Minister
4 , evert
—(Oh, oh.) Hon. Members may say
(Laughter, and cries of " Question.) , 010051
An HoN. MEMBER (name unknolwi
niaber far
surprise at the language of the Linn. e were
sex. He had never heard in that H(.O-
- thrown
tbsts
personal language than had been od Pv"
ntlealan,
•
first by the Hon. and Learned Ge
eto
the Hon. Member for Middlesex, who com .04S,
tance. It reminded him of the alliance uereeiriale
philosopher and a certain animal,' be
bead'
service to his friend, broke the philosophers 000
did not say what the animal was, nor could
.11josat'
personal allusion—(A laugh)—for the jots
the Right Ho
Middlesex was not more unlike the 117i:r60,011
appearance than in internal appearance
philosopher.—(Laughter.) merle' •
g
Lord PALMERSTON bad never heard in e
Ho°'
for observations than those made by the se fir
for Middlesex on his Right Hon. Friend. o°
throwing out any thing in anger, be hod ° 0,10
the defence of an Hon. Member from the ,rbio.
attack of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman'
stiff
Member for Middlesex thought it impropertibo
any thing but what had taken place in the' api tbro,
that they should abstract their attention 015
which had occurred in Ireland.--(A laugnid
might be a convenient doctrine fir the 11°°'$Ariettibet
Member for Dublin, and for the 110°' b sobl
Midolesex ; but the House, in discussing 1r '
would not he likely to comply with the re°o ruwealilt:;
of the Hon. Member. He hoped the 1-I°°.lotiollt
direct its attention to the clause under consuretbefiar
that there would be no attempt to add fuel t°
(Hear, hear.) in errs
Mr. O'CONNELL admitted that be was&ea
speaking of Lord Ellenberough as a privy Gent
instead of a Cabinet Minister. The Right Hon' the
had committed as grievous an error, in
Member for Bodmin a County Member. aOn °I
Mr SHEIL would adopt the rev-nmet:l°,loo
Noble Lord, who was an admirable pacificator "tea '
sions, and now came forward to mediate be an
belligerent parties. The Right Hon. Ge° Kist'
argued against combining the judicial and the.q?
power. But what had been done in this 1.31: oti
they had combined. the legislative, the judiete9,4o
executive powers. Two justices of the poet
illitery
powered to disperse a meeting, and they tnigh °a a °
act in a judicial capacity, and convict a party that
mary proceeding. Let not the House suPP°4 Cos°
offences under this Act were to be tried in wivo
to
King's Bench; one of the offences at leaet„wer
tried before two justices of the peace. I° I°' bat...yj
there were exceptions of charitable nreetigg'd. ht
there were no exceptions. Hon. Member° might
there
at the idea of 150 orphans being deprived of pm, 130,
—(No, no.) What might take place ender
got al
A more arbitrary Secretary than they had o°Wrec-cotei,./
come ; and might not the orphan meetings be P_ peeps)
Mr. O'DWYER said, that by this Act 0' jam
Ireland were deprived of the protection of t:ht!.att4
transferred to an unmitigated despotism, or ab-l're
by the personal character of the men they we oieetißo
to. What was Lord Anglesea's idea of an illeg'i
etak Ora
"
In his conversation with the Hon. Member for
ibly
Baldwin), Lord Anglesea said that every 0100 lj
alarmed the nerves of • be pt or
any man ought to bly
that the criterion of the illegality of an a'sem,rty
of
its tendency to disturb the peace, but the clu-Dioeself)
nerves which the Lord-Lieutenant happened tfa'i,ioOt
The amendment was negatived without oul"
the original clause agreed to. .„ to r 4
On the clause empowering the Lord-Lieutel37:oJere.,
hibit " any body of persons" from assemblilltia (Pr
cumstances calculated to lead to a breach °'
being read, that
Colonel DAVIES proposed as an anrendore°',."
clause should obtain only in .‘ proclaimed dig°, t
oa,
Mr. STANLEY objected to the amendtre:jaL)
ground that its effect would be the temPtlyriatre"-ofr
lorcing—the Lord-Lieutenant to proclaim 0,71 e data -
was nut actually in a state of disturbance. ago- (c:
ject of the Bill was the suppression of tul, bsl3
schemes which were the chief source of the di
in Ireland. Now, the grand focus of this iniec"e-eflree,‘"-
tation nes the city of Dublin, which was wh0,7,. durar
distutbance—(Lorol cries of " Hear " Iron nt 0,07
nell)—su that if the Gallant Member's amen turf`
adopted, the Lord Lieutenant would be forced r
that city,—that is, prevent its peaceable inhatit 100";11
being out of their houses after sunset and bel°'-iie
Hon. Members should recollect that the Lord- et St":;•
would be invested with three powers, each ditttl°oelni
the other—one for dispersing and prohibiting 1 joitt
tending to a breach of the peace, another for Pr°c:ol9ll,
district, and a third for the establishing of colt; Jr,
These three were not connected with each otbe:o pr"
by no means followed that where a district 0
ed 1!
claimed court martial should be also establi4 fie°
Then, Ministers were prepared to make an °ell'
0
the clause which would have the effect of rel"diet's
purely political offences, in even a proclaiffleu
altogether from the cognizance of a milittolo juor•
leaving them to be dealt with by the ordinary
diction.--( Hear.) (leader
Mr. O'CONNELL begged the Right H0n..,:c01-I'l,'
;$1
to bear in mind that if. on the one band, the "..;040.,;11
tenant would be forced by the amendment topr'dotor'• 1
undisturbed district, the inhabitants of those us be clo::1
districts might be, on the other hand, forced by toottlt.it
as it stood to follow the course pursued in the 07 ,
ones, seeing that their peaceable conduct did °-sit
oioo.o. •
them an exemption from despotism. The achn' 311-
the Right Hon. Gentleman that the focus o.f
eir
was perfectly free from disturbance, was a ret-; 014111
ment on the Bill and the unfounded assergo- fl'
• framers and supporters, which identified agitation
disturbance. s RIO
Mr. BEAUMONT would support the clause 100
because be conceived it necessary to putting t
Whitefoot agitation which was the curse of Irr"-:40.
was not against the mere pidnight predial tollt ill di
the mere physical Whitefeet--that the energies 11.00 it
formed Parliament should be directed, but tlelirio/ftt
Whitefeet agitators—the intellectual mars 0;740,
were the sole cause of the unhappy state of till' bes'
—(Hear, hear, hear.) It would be unjust to tilbite/--
Whitefeet to confound them with the political "114
Mr. O'CONNELL felt that the malignity °He- 301
Gentleman's charge carried its antidote in its 1.°"#.1" ,l
whom the Hon. Gentleman had presumed 0 wiiOCP-6
rauders" were his equals in every conventional 411„:000/00
—not to say anything touching endowment',
acquired. The attack of the Hon. Memberll4

iwiraes,eanbtsusrtdotani,d
because polity
svit
tic.,laalAtlieT:rel.afE:r.ißtasaUtilt.LEß opposed the amendment. 005 t;014
dMart.taiLnAedMaßpEitßchTwchoineshidweraesdu
utterly
rinyecienscsaormypt: 1 ititifr:
goo:lrg.ovceHrntzmlesn.rt.lTA(sHeaaprn.
Member fur
'fCurONwNeExiLoLmexopirrek).sseed his surprise that eta di'
ißrittiiieofßttTpofthlile,iitical agitation, because if it had not been 73:" v°l
t•ii i(i)nr.:l:ewsAptAehleaßtitiEihgße
LAMBERT observed
aeosbCsteaortvhaeopdlipertohqyauetesotiaflottnhhoelluage:hitbeahtei',o-sl3:i: 3
d'ell
senotcp,reshvoaiuhl.drignoitnhiarielahnadla
(sleiaetairn.)that H.rouse' e
the)
agitation respecting the Catholic que'"°"Exil r
Mr.
N:CmitsetunApirip:ol:Ant Netd,
wtilaniser :h clause,lYn AnieLaxgganaHanntailiniv,t:eietidraernt.dreoBl%aubwri :I aciLL:ciallll4tflireeiltr:2l.4cllb
an alarming
to suppress political agitation, which l''
alarming height.
IJ‘
iie,ll:irlita.w.t,Onfu:Cit
aOtsi
iNseeNnr.:Ei.:lnyLa,L,i
atitdvfei,rsuhloteifdbteitooe
mpniritattieupdcsie:e, as an, s,r
$O..
:Efitterb:ht.eeitabi;ll:3l
self quite exhausted. He had now been avivel); vilyti‘o
in discussion since five o'clock, and he liar "v ;ice' ;
strength to go on further. Under these ciruities_ beiAll,
hoped the Noble Lord would consent to the clatis, 14
postponed till to-morrow.--(Cries of "Go 00. 1 i
CA
moved that the Chairman should report progle"'
.„03ilt
Lord ALTHORP expressed a wish that the ""
should come to a decision upon the clause.
port
i‘lBllll
rrrp...„
progress.
—(Cries
iLLetsb%hoevanfi td I
m‘dziorn(e)
vii
"Divide.")
i dni
e,hiset.:, ada)ttmn eetirl! icteohn
at
pi
rraiopoloeffio
the clause, but at that late hour he was unwilling x
11)°
inence a fresh discussion.
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inl,i‘eNiloeniGirnotEthi:lesatroetthisignhahodatranelix,tiinhglwa,:ualastteo(tdpo:oeleiabidrtai:db,
eehelttfyiai
uabrst.ye)tatboitieteeflo:i:ii
Mr. O'CONNELL denied that he bad At°