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LONDON, SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1851.

Sir J. GRAHAT4 opposed the clause; and declared that
it had been the toteation of Sir PEEL'S Cabinet to
repeal 'the entire of the Act of the 13 Rizabetb, and
not mertly that portion which related to penalties. He
considered the present enactmeLt pregnant with the
st possible danger.
The ATTORNEY. GENERAL defended the clause, which,
in fact, merely declared what the law was at present.
Mr. Montt O'FERRALL felt bound to withdraw his con-
fidence from the Government in consequence of the in-
troduction of this measure.

,
Mr. HATCHELL aeciareot that Lord MANNERS, the
LORD CHANCELLOR of Ireland in 1809, had judi-
cially decided that the Irieh Roman Catholic Bishops
Could not bo recognised by the territorial titles which
they assnuied.

Mr. 'WALPOLE l'elieved that but for the repeal of the
13th Elizabeth, and the clumsy manner in which that
repeal 11%d been made, they would never have heard
of the Papal aggressicin.
• Sir JAMES Gamiest denied the right of Parliament to
interfere with the Bull, and described the Bill as a de-
claratim of war aginst our Roman Catholic fellow-
countrymen.

Lord JOLIN RUSSELL confessed that he felt very great
alarm at the language which had been used in this de-
bate. The difficulty in which they were involved arose
from the questic vhether the rescript of the POPE
really interfered the sovereignty 01 this country, or
was intended to 'auto tho spirituel interests of the
Roman Catholic ; the decision of this question was
to be left exch.. .y to the Roman Catholics them-
selves, it was evident that the Protestants of this

country must be entirely precluded from a&
serting the rights of the Crown and the coun

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try agasnst usurpation, as they bad been asserted by
their Catholic forefathers, and must be prepared to
allow their own course to be regulated most probably in
obedience to some dictum from Rome, issued in confor-
mity with the unchanged policy and unchangeable
powers of the Papal See. He contended that the line
which Ministers had felt themselves compelled to take
on this question was ono that might well have been
taken in days when the Government and Legislature of
this country were wholly Roman Catholic, and that
what would not be submitted to by Prussia or Saxony
ought not to be submitted to by us. There were but
two alternative,. Either they must pronounce the Papal
rescript unlawful, as every lawyer in the House had
either admitted or maintained it to be, or they must sub-
mit to any Papal bull, rescript, or letter apostolical
which might be issued, however it might abuse the na-
tion, or violate the jus: authority of the Crown.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM had intended merely to say that,.
in his opinion, spiritualities alone were affected by the
recent redcript._

Mr. MORE, O'FERsexx knew that nothing badbeen
further from the intention of the Pon than to offer any
insult to the SOVEREIGN or the people of this country.
After a discussion, in which Mr. Hos:ionic, Mr.
GRATTAN, and Mr. REYNOLDS, took part,
The Committee divided on the question, that the first
clause stand part of the Bill, when there appeared—.
For the clause ..- ... 244
Against it ... 62
_ _

...
-Majority in favour of the clause...-182
The clause was then ordered to stand part of the Bill.
On the motion of Lord Jour; liusszu, the CRAM-
MAN reported progress, and asked leave to sit again on
Monday.

On the proposal that the Colonial Property Qualifica-
tion Bill be read a ercond time, an amendment was
moved that the second reading be postponed to a future
day. A short discussion ensued. Trje amendment was
lost by a majority of 72 to 31, and the Bill was read a
second time.

The remaining busiuess having been disposed of, the
Houle adjourned at a Quarter to One o'clock.

Some progress has at length begin made in the

Ecclesiastical Titles Assumption Bill. The subject
7vA5 last night, for the first time since its introduc-
tion, fairly debated. The discussion was conducted
according to the ordinary forms. A division was
taken on the first clause, which was carried by a ma-
jority of 182, there being 244 in favour of, and but
62 against, the clause. The Chairman then reported

progress, and the subject will again be taken into

consideration on Monday. This postponement, how-
ever, was not owing to any degree o factious oppo-
sition, or the Fabian policy, for which the Members of
" the Brigade" have recently acquired an unhappy
notoriety. It was adopted on the suggestion of the
First Lord of the Treasury, for the purpose of eco-
nomising the public time, and not of procrastination.
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Many Hon. Gentlemen who gave the measure a gwhich,r.al support had given notice of amendments,
although of no great importance in them-
selv"
, r enate there
It
, !night yet lead to considerable delay ; while
others
suggested enactments of so stringent a cha-
baeci ter that
was
w but little probability of their
g apt
t therefore, exceedingly de
sirable that •
time should be afforded to those
persons
notfor full consideration, that they
mi th
rate steps, , plarouy gh
the
any
hasty or inconside-
re
of the Bill, or retard the measure they were anxious
game of the opponents
to accelerate. The
division last night proved that
there was no diminution of the Protestant feeling that
was so loudly and unequivocally expressed when the
obnoxious rescript was first published,
on the pre-
and the auda-
cious aggression of a foreign Potentate
rogatives of the British Crown and the independence
of the British ration made known to the people.
Wby, then, should any of those who participate in
these feelings allow themselves to be instruments in
weight to the English protest
the hands of the minority, so as to diminish the
9 2 'Why should they in
against the Papal iravasio. .
justly belonging
any degree become parties to the unnecessary waste
and consumption of the public time that has been so
loudly and :so justly complained of by the commu-
nity in general? We. trust that,
on Monday, those
1100. Gentlemenwill follow the example afforded by
the Hon. acd Learned Member for 2.lidhurs', who im-
mediately
responded to the call of tl-.e PREMIER, by
stating the course he intenchd to adopt in rthrence
to the inapcniant ernendmtnts of which be has given

noicl.

We might almost venture to hopeiroin the pro-
ceedings of last that the ohstructives had be-
come sufficiently aware of the general tone of pub-
lic opinion to see the folly and inutility of the sys-

In the House of Lord:, last evening,
The' Administration of Justice Improvement Bill was
read Ohird time and passed.
The Church Building Act Amendment Bill passed
through Committee, as did the Public-houses (Scotland)
Bill, when their Lordships adjourned.
In the Commons,
The Committee on the Ecclesiastical Titles Assump-
tion Bill wa3 resumed.,
Mr. Kroclt proposed a proviso to clause 1, enacting
that no prosecution under the Bill should take place
without the consent of the ATTORNEY-GENERAL. The
proviso was negatived without a division, and on the
question being put that the clause do stand part of the
Bill,