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Cases Ilu.trating the ABSURDITY aid DANGER id
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riIbItACTICAL OBSERVATIONS
STRICI URES of the IMETIIRA awl I.IECTUII,
recornmending an improved systems for their treatment and
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hie easev, in souse of which Strictures it
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liv C. B. COURTENAY. M.D.,

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aoservations and Pi actie.il Comm. nut nn Cl. et,
Seminal Weakness, and the misrules occasion• if by S h
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Dr. Courtenay's I t•t popular Wt.ik, a New Elition,
An HISTORICAL Hod PRAC'fICAL TREATISE
on SYPHILIS ind its CONSEQUENCES.
To whirh are added. _Ptactiral Onset cations on Diseases
of the Gertrrative Systrin...n Net v.tus, General, and Local
on tl,e pernini,ing effects ot a Sillitiry Vice
sn onhappi y porsued by the pottli of both sexes. In the
one it will he found an ut•failitig source of bar tiness, th•
other have its ravaers fatally developed by ir dirarressinv
state of t.ability, which, if not tilt), Iy remedied; tel
in imrciteitcy ; nose ate its remote ,rid oltimat. elf•cts,
whilst Consumptions, Lass of Nltt eulai Powtr, and va
rious other complaints, uswilly characterise the earliei
these distressing diseases, fur the cure ot which
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Un"Y "Ptn-rt to b afflicted with the maladies which
Mini the stilljeet t:f this vet y interesting pu .I,eation. The
,uttiiitous views tak. n ot these &seas. s, meth, r with the
inivrtant Winnings against excesset:, entitle this work t
great praise; and we ma a• a fartlor reeitniimn
station that it is written with much delicacy ,in I snort
lity."--invector and Literrry tew.

LIVERPOOL COTTON-MARKET, MAy2o.
We continue to experience a very good demand for
most kinds of cotton. 'llw sales to-day amount to
4,000. bales, at full market prices—viz.,loo Marau-
hams, 1 lid; 500 sawginned, 94d. to 10d.; 300 Su-
ra s, 64d. to 60. ; remainder in American, from 74d.
to 9d. A few Orleans at 100.

Mr. RUSSELL moved the second reading of the
Dudley Water Works Bill.
Mr. J. OSWALD moved the third reading of the
St. George's-Market Bill, Southwark, which was ac-
cordingly read a third time and passed.
Mr. WILK S presented a petition from certain
magistrates of Middlesex against the Great Western
Railway.
. Lord ALTIIORP put it to those hon. gentlemen
who had motions, whether they would allow the Poor
Laws' Amendment Bill to have precedence, and suffer
the house to go into committee upon it.
Mr. LYALL said that it was now some months
since the session commenced, and during that time he
had had in the paper a notice of motion connected with
the shipping interest. Under these circumstances he
hoped the house would allow the bill to be read a
second time that evening.
Lord ALTHORP submitted to the house whether
they had any objection, in order to make 'some pro-
gress in the bills now in committee, to.. apply some of
the morning sittings to that purpose. Those sittings
were not calculated for a debate, as they
must, elw at a particular he•,,,,,,.44.0.,:-Y-woul#94sW
very well for the consideration of separate c MAO!" In
committee. If there were. no objection, he would
move for the appointment of a committee upon the
Poor Laws' Amendment Bill for a morning sitting, if
it should be found necessary to do so,
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET objected most
decidedly to the proposed arrangement. There were
many important private committees sitting in the morn-
ing, and these c.,uld not be neglected by hon, members,
without neglecting the interests of their constituents.
He did not wish- to. throw obstacles in the way of the
Government, but he must decidedly object to such an
arrangement.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM thought that some ar-
rangement might be made to prevent inconvenience to
either side of the house. •He suggested that the hon.
member for the city of London should post-
pone his bill relative to merchant seamen's
widows to Friday se'nnight. ( Hear, hear.) He
( Sir J. Graham) had also a bill to forward a stage,
which he should postpone to Friday se'nnight also,
and he was sure that no objection would be made to
giving the bill of the hon. member for the City of
London precedence on that day.
Lord ALTHO RP said a few words, which were
quite inaudible.
Lord HO WICK remarked that he also had
a bill relative to justices of the peace,, which he
should' postpone. If the house was not disposed to
give some accommodation to the government, it would
be impossible to get through the business.
Mr. FLEETWOOD objected to the arrangement.
He did not speak so much for himself as for other
hon. members who had bills to forward.
After a few words from Mr. C. GRANT,

Mr. GOULB URN observed that there were not
less than 16 public committees sitting at that moment. If
important questions were brought forward during the
morning sittings, either that important business must
be neglected, or the committees must be left to be re-
ported by one or two members.
On the question being put for the second reading of
the Merchant Seamen's Widows Bill,

Mr. G. F. YOUNG wished to know whether he
should be allowed to present some petitions both for
and against the measure?
The SPEAKER inquired whether those petitions
had been received by the hon. member between half-
past one o'clock and the present sitting of the house?
(Laughter.)
The petitions were not presented .
MERCHANT SEAMEN'S WIDOWS BILL.

Mr. LYALL rose to move the second reading of
•the bill. He observed that this measure was one of great
importance to the British shipping community. It was not
his intention to appeal to the passions or prejudices of the
hon. members of that house, but to their sense of justice.
When this tax was levied, doubtless the legislature in-
tended that all seamen, whether they belongcd.to the
merchant service or the royal navy, should derive
equal benefit therefrom. ( Hear, hear, hear.) Not
only had the merchant seamen derived no be-
nefit from Greenwich Hospital, but he could prove
that under the existing system they would
never derive any benefit from that establishment.
although on all the principles of justice he contended
that they were entitled to all the benefits which
seamen of the Royal Navy derived from it.
He had understood the right hon. baronet opposite,
the First Lord of the Admiralty, to say the other day,
that if a merchant seaman had only served one
day in his Majesty's service, he would be en-
titled to be received into Greenwich Hospital ; but
he (the hon. member) had looked through the hospital
regulations, and he could find n )thing of the kind stated.
He believed the regulations required a man to serve
twenty years in his Majesty's service, before he
could be entitled to any relief from that hospital.
( Hear, hear.) The honourable member then read
the preamble, and one or two sections of the 7th and
Bth of William 111., to show that the merchant seamen
were obliged to contribute 6d. per month towards G reen-
wich Hospital, without thriving any benefit whatever
The hon. member proceeded in detail to state the prin-
ciples of his bill, and the beneficial results which he an-
ticipated from it, if it met the sanction of the house ;
but from the low tone in which he spoke it was quite
impossible to catch a whole sentence of his observa-
tions. In conclusion he hoped that as the measure
involved the interests of 12,000 British seamen, and
as he believed the several clauses were well adapted
to promote their benefit, the house would agree to the
second reading without opposition.
Mr. HUTT, in seconding the motion, hoped that
Ithe attention of the house would be directed to the
manner in which the large estates belonging to Green-
wich Hospital were disposed of. He was understood
further to advert to a conversation which he had with
the right hon. baronet opposite respecting the pur-
chase of property in Greenwich out of the funds of
the hospital, and to represent him as stating that
such application of those funds was highly censurable.
Surely the house would not continue to exact 22,0001.
a-year from persons no way connected with the
hospital.
Sir JAMES G RA HAM had devoted most anxious
attention to the question then before the house, and
he was enabled to state that the other members of his
Majesty's government had likewise bestowed upon it
similar attention. They were perfectly ready to ad-
mit the meritorious character of the merchant service,
and he would be most happy, if they possibly could,
to make any concessions in its favour ; but after the
best reflection, they found it totally impossible, con-
sistently with a sense of the duty they owed to the
public, as well as that which they owed to the hospital
itself, to give their consent to any such motion as
that of the hon. member for London. The hon. mem-
ber who had spoken last had detailed the substance of
a private conversation.
Mr. HUTT—The ,communication was made offi-
cially.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM considered all such con-
versations as in some degree private, but he would not
stand upon that ground. The hon. member appeared
to have represented him as stating that 150,000/. of
the funds of Greenwich Hospital had been thrown
away. Now, that be begged altogether to deny. He
had never said any thing to warrant such a statement ;
what he had said was, that the sum mentioned had
been, in his opinion, imprudently applied, but he ne-
ver meant to impute to his predecessors anything in
the nature of' a job in reference to that transaction. It
might be perfectly smooth and easy, as in the opinion
of some hon. members it appeared to be, to get rid 04
the difficulty then before them, by charging the defi
cient amount upon the consolidated fund, but in hii•
opinion it would be likely to prove as unpalateable to
the parliament as it was to the government; and for
any other mode of dealing with it than that which hat
hitherto prevailed, he confessed he did not see how
coulirbe entertained-U ntil the house was prepared t.
say that'Greenwich Hospital ought to be robbed
42,0001. a-year of its income, being no less than ol ( -
s_lventh of that income. The bon. member for I,—.
don had represented his piopasitlon as h measure far
the relief of merchant seamen. On that he woulu

.g. it
Apowners,. bat i
men themgAvcs
,ern, there would lin
..11uetion in their wage
. would only to a of '.l
As of the owners, for thev
of its r:nnoyal be compelled to
.ne consum'rs, and thus the hoc 2i-
.thout any' particular class in society
.al gainer. But it was still further frOm
the fact that the on. gentleman proposed to give pity
practical rel of to the seamen, for his proposition was,
that instead of paying Gd. to the Merchant Seamen's
Hospital and 6d. to Greenwich, they shmild in future
gay ls. to the former; surely that was affording any-
:hing but re ief. In his, opinion it should be left per-
'ectry optional with them to contribute the remaining 6d.
or not. It had been argued that it was Most unfair to tax
a portion of the community ' for an
.establishment from
which they derived no advantage% Now, how did-flue
facts stand? There were 2,700 pensioners in Green-
wich Hospital, 1,1 18 of whom had been in the mer-
hant service : 350 of that number were in the.Tner-
chant service from 30 to 50 years, aiuf the average'of
the whole number was 13 years before •thei miterßd
the navy. That, be it remembered, was a pridtfee
which led to the sailors, after they had Colracted
chronic complaints in the merchant servici:;Eothaig
into the navy, and availing themselves of its: institu-
tions for their relief and protection in old ate.- He
should now make one observation, ,which lie thought
wounisuPply a sufficient answer to all that had belert
urged by the hon. member. for London. The it-lea-mire.
Which he was introducing for the purpose of effecting
registration of all merchant seamen would have for one
of its objects to hold out inducements to pct. ons en.
gaged in the merchant service to enter
.ti)e•service of
the crown. Voluntarily. It was intended that every
seaman in the merchant service, who produced a cer-
tificate of registrati'e, should be entitled W-admission
to Greenwich Hospital in every case of loss of-lhiab,
or of injury equivalent .to le,s of limb. There was
another co.isideration, v•itieh :.t. v also importaut the
4tottese sho-filtt beet' . 'll;ti:ty, .hat ,t,oon,'
annum hal been for some years past given up by the .
hospital, the full benefit of whi h had accrued to the
commercial interest. On all these grounds it must 'he
evident to the house that they would have no remedy
but to appeal to his noble friend, for no considetlation
could induce him to agree to the loss of one-seventh of
the income of the hospital, unless an 'equivalent were
otherwise provided.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON hoped that the bill
would be allowed to pas;, and if it did, he was sure
that the house would not separate without mating up
the deficiency to Greenwich Hospital out of the public
funds. ( Hear, hear.)
Dr. LUS HINGTON admitted that the Chancellor
of the Exchequer was bound to reduce the general
taxation of the country to the lowest possible amount ;
but he did not think that the existing mode of raising
the sum of 22,000/. for Greenwich Hospital equi-
table. ( Hear, hear.) His right hon. friend had said,
that the payment of Gd. out of the wages 'of -The
merchant seamen was not a tax on the seamen Mein-
selves, but on the shipowners. If this argument ivas
pushed to its full extent, it would be found that the
shipowners did not pay the tax, but -the merchant, in
the shape of an increased charge for freight, and
eventually the consumer, who was obliged, in conse-
quence, to pay more for the goods he purchased than
he otherwise need do. Why, then, was this circuitous
mode adopted of taking the money out of the people's
pockets? Why was it not at once taken out of the
consolidated fund ? His right hon. friend (Sir .1.
Graham) had opposed the bill on the ground that it
would interfere with his plan to put an end to the
system,the diabolical system, he ( Dr. Lushington)
must beg leave to call it--of impressment. His
answer to that statement was, that the nation had no
right to compel any portion of the King's subjects to
perform services which it might obtain willingly by
lffering a fair remuneration ; and he knew no object
for which the people of this country ought more
readily to pay their money, on the principles of in-
terest and justice, than that of preserving the navy' in
an efficient state. (flear, hear.) For these reasons,
he should vote for the second reading of the bill under
discussion.

Mr. G. YOUNG also expressed his intention of
supporting the second reading. A petition had been
forwarded to him, signed by 2,000 seamen belong,ing-
to North Shields, complaining in the bitterest terms
of the exaction of money „from them for the-support of.
Greenwich Hospital, and praying the house to order
that the sums so taken should be paid over to the Mer-
chant Seamen's Hospital. This the right hon. ba-
ronet said the house had no right to do, although lie
had himself introduced a bill to compel the clerks in
public offices to set aside a portion of their wages for
rho purpose of forming a superannuation fund. ( Hear,
hear.) He thought the sixpenny payment exacted
from the merchant seamen onerous and unjust, and
he believed that the minsters, if they divided against
the bill, would be glad to find themselves in 4
minority.

Mr. P. THOMSON said that he came down to
the house to defend the interests of Greenwich Hos-
dital, of which he was officially the chairman ; but he
found himself relieved from that duty, since every
gentleman who supported the present bill disclaimed
all intention of depriving Greenwich Hospital of ono
sixpence of its revenue, and had expressed his readi-
ness of voting to that hospital, out of the consolidated
fund, a sum equal to that which would be taken from
it by the present bill. For himself, he should feel
more security on this point if the vote of the money was
allowed to take precedence of the present bill. The
purpose of the measure before the house was not
merely to relieve the merchant seamen from the
payment of 6d., but to transfer the funds now
gives to Greenwich Hospital to a different
institution, or, in other words, to obtain a vote of
about 20,0001. of the public money in favour of the
Merchant Seamen's Hospital.) No, no.) That cer-2
t tinly would be the effect of the bill, though produced
y indirect instead of direct means. There could be
no doubt, as had already been remarked by his right
hon. friend, that the merchant seamen derived great
benefit from Greenwich Hospital. There were 2%;(41
pensioners in that hospital, 1,180 of whom 'mad
)nged to the merchant service, in which ',hey had, on
the average, been engaged thirteen years. Stills
t'mugh they might have passed the best part of their
lives as merchant seamen, and pentracted disea,,es .
that service, yet, if they entered the King': ;en ice
and became disabled the next day, they would be en-
titlel to receive relief from Greenwich Hospital. He
trusted that, as his right how friend had given notice
of his intention of introducing a bill to put an end to
the system of compulsory service, by which every sea-
man who could produce a certificate of registration
would be entitled to enter Greenwich Hospital, he
would not be precipitate ie legislating on this subject.
Mr. li WA RT supported the second reading of the
bill, and defended the proposed transfer of the sixpenny
payment to the Merchant Seamen's Hospital.
Sir M. W. RIDLE Y said, a promise had been held
out that the sixpenny payment would not be insisted
on, whenever the expenditure of Greenwich Hospital
should be sufficiently diminished, and its revenue de-
rived from estates sufficiently increased to enable the
hospital to do without it. The time had at. lenisi•-''n at.
rived, he thought, for carrying that pr-,inge into of.
feet, and looking to the condit4/n Of the hospital's
funds, he saw no reason for (apposing the motion of his
hon. friend the member fer the city of London.
( Hear, hear.) The seamen of the town (Newcastle)
which ho had the honour to represent paid 2,000/. a
year to the Greenwich Aind, and they paid 1,800/. to
their own fond, Now, would it not be an immen:ft
advantage to those men to have this 2,000/. a year paid,
to increase the fund in which they had so direct an in,
terest, rather than give it to an hospital in which they
had no interest ? He hoped the bill would be allowed
to go to the committee.
Mr. P. STEWART would support the second
wh
ei c
thought,h werewas from
1 0,0
reading of the bill, on the grounds that it would snot
re
create any material loss to GreenWich Hospital, and
that it would he an immense advantage to the mer-
ch2antool to 30
seamen..i3OThe funds
year,
of
andG nthat,e
core than ample for 2,700 men. y Wh • not do with
• 1
Greenwich as with Chelsea—let the grant-for-it come
tnnually before Parliament? We should 'then know
he exact state of the funds provided for'it.
Sir J. G 11,A H AM said that there had been consider-
dile sums given up by Greenwich Hospital, amounting
o nearly '20,000/. 'These sums it used to receive as
lues for certain beacon lights.
Lord SANDON said the question was, whether
he merchant seamen should pm, this tax fo.• their own
enefit, or for that of Greenwich Host ital. He con-
idered it a hardship on the merchant seamen to he
ailed upon to contribute to a fund in which they hid
J interest. There was abundant evidence to sli.ev
,at seamen would much rather pay this sum tai a h
a fund in which they had an immediate int,let.
sir. J. ,SWING gave his _cordial cencur:s nee t.
motion- for the'second reading of the bill.
Lord ALTHORP said that the proposition before

the house was simply this—to take 20,0001. from
Greenwich Hospital and give it to the hospital for
merchant seamen, and then to supply the deficienc}
thus created to Greenwich Hospital by a charge on
the consolidated fund. Now, would it not be a more
simple and easy way at once to propose a charge of
that amount from the consolidated fund for the mer-
chant seamen ? If such a proposition should be made,
he was not prepared to consent to it. He was called
upon day after day by hon. members, some wanting
the remission of one tax and some of another. But
how could the house expect him to consent to the re-
mission of taxation while they burdened the consoli-
dated fund by such charges as this bill would create ?
Let the house recollect that this bill did not propose
to relieve the merchant seamen from any deduction
now made from their pay ; it only gave a different ap-
plicatian to what they paid. The merchant seamen
had an indirect interest in Greenwich Hospital. On
the whole, he saw no case made out for the bill, and he
would therefore oppose it, and he hoped that the house
would not consent to make this deduction from the
funds of Greenwich Hospital until some provision was
made to replace it.
Mr. LY A LL, in reply, said, as a proof of the
benefits which might be derived from a merchant sea-
men's fund, he might mention a fact which he had
heard since he came into that house—that, in the
course of the last winter, 430 claims had been made
on (we understood) the Seamen's Widows' Fund, at
Newcastle, in consequence of wrecks on our coast.
Just as strangers were about to withdraw,
An HON. MEMBER moved as an amendment to the
motion for reading the bill a second time, that it be
read a second time that day six months.
The house then divided, when there appeared—
For the reond reading
For the amendment
Majority for the bill
The bill was then read a second time.
On our return to the gallery, we found
Mr. LYAL I. moving that the bill be committed on
Monday next.—Ordered.