The Sun.
London, England, 1812-04-30 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

TUESDAY, -APRIL 28. •
The Call of the Houses ood for this day. Strangers
',ere not admittA al half past five o'clock. B • fore
the door was open d, we undews.ood a discussion of
lionle length took place on t he subject of the Call ;
the result of which was, the OrdLr was postponed to
this day month.
Sir J. NEWPORT wished to call the attention of
the Hoase to !he (trawler in which mouey granted
~'" Trelaed for insertieg Proclamations, was laid out.
• f...orn ..-!d to be expended, only for the purpose of
13,tting Papers to trumpet forth the praises of Go-
vernrnent through the country, and to excite ani-
nloalties among the people, and the most rancour-
, tsn'as language; he moved, " that there be - laid
uefare this House a detaAed Account of the Sum of
'10,2051. t es. paid out of the Treasury for the Publi-
. cation of Proclamations, and Ara Newsppers in
Ireland."
Mr. W. POLE said, he did not rise for the purpose
.„4:4oPposing the production of the account which the
—non. Baronet had moved for, but he felt himself
vatted upon to say a few words, in consequence of
~* the manner in which the Right Hon.Batt.had prefac•
ed the motion.. The House would naturally be led to
B°Pnose from the Right Hon. Baronet's statement;
that there was something unusolliy extravagant in
the grant made by Pat harnent this year (or this ser-
vice, or that he (Mr. Pole) had -shewn a disposition
to encourage a lavish expenditure of the public mo-
ney, for the publication of these proclamations ; it.
became, therefore, necessary for him to state what
the real fails were, and to recall the recollectiOn of
the House to what passed when the grant in
Tlestion was voted in the Committee pf Sup-
ply. It then appeared, that so,far from having
encouraged a lavish expenditure at public money,
he was the first parson who had reduced the stun
• expended, within the amount 61 the sum granted. by
Parliament for this service. It was, Ile tho6ght, a
little singular that the Right Hon. Baronet should
throw out this insinuation against him, who had
effeaed so considerable a reduction in the expen-
diture ; when in the Right Hon. Baronet's ad-
, Ministration, the sum expended was between se-
venteen and eighteen thousand pounds. With regard
to the Dublin Journal he could only state that the
Proclamations had.been regulaily inserted in that
Paper, he believed, for the last fifty years. He had
given no direaions respeaing the insertion of these
Proclamations, except that the sum expended should
not exceed, the sum granted by Parliament.-
- As to the Right Honourable Baronet's charge, that
Newspapers ‘‘ ere employed by the Irish Government
in trumpetting forth their praises, and frt spreading
rancour throughout the country, he begged to state
Most distinaly that it was wholly unfounded : if
ever the Irish Government attempted to exercise
any influence, it was to keep down and to moderate,
and not to excite party spirit. It.was not, however,
extraordinary, that when every species of calumny,
When the rnot scurrilous abuse was daily poured
forth against every person conneaed with Govern-
ment, that the friends and supporters of Government
'should sometimes express themselves warmly. But
if the Right HOnOurable Baronet meant to insinuate
or to assert that the" Irish Government either ep-
P coLlraged or connived at 'the rise of rancorous lan.

guage, or' at all wished 'td excite any Orly a.ni-
mosities, he begged to give the Right Hon. Baronet
the Most dire& and Unqualified contradietion.
Mr. -PARNELL said, be would do the Right Hon.
Gentled an 'Opposite to him the justice to say; that
since he had been in OffiCe he had sheWn the sirong-
est disposition to diTiniSh as much a's potsible the
'expenditure Of public money, and in cokitTatiicles
'considerable savings had been Made. Vle felt him-
self also bound in Candour to state, that that Right
Hon. Gentleman, and the Irish Government, had
shewn a uniform disposition to check party spirit—
in that resped they had certainly done all that a
Government ought to do. 'With regard to the Pro-
clamations, he wished merely to slate, that it had
been admitted by the Right Hon. Gentleman's pre-
decessor in office that they were given to.different
Papers in Ireland to keep them in the interest of
Government.

The motion was then agreed to.
On the motion of Mr. W. POLE, the Order of
the Day, tor ihe House resolving into a Committee
on the Irish Sugar Distillation Bill, was postponed
until to-morrow.

-The Irish Partnership Bill, on the motion of Sir
JAMES HILL, was read a third time, and passed.
Mr. PAR NELL moved, that there should be laid
before the House a copy of a Memorial from certain
Citizens of Dublin, to his Excellency the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland, complaining of thq condua
of the Police Magisirateir. Ordered.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHRQUER postponed,
till to-morrow, the measure, of which he had given
notice, for putting local tokens out of circulation.
While up, he stated, it to be his intention to propose
to make the forging of tokens fehyny, and also to
endeavour to put an end to the practice of printing
papers to imitate bank notes, or papers which might
be taken for bank notes, but which on close in-
speaion were found not to be such. A parcel of
papers had been presented to him, which were exe
cuted in such a manner, with white letters upon a
black grounds &c. that any person seeing them
across the table would be disposed to say they wete
bank notes of 1001. 501. 201. or any other sums
which might appear to be marked on them. These
~were so done as at fit st to escape detedion, and, in
consequence the public had been imposed upon to
a considerable amount before the cheat was disco-
vered. With resped to these, he would propose
that the punishment awarded by the law, as it at
present stood, which was six months imprison-
ment, should be increased to twelve months, and
et the expiration of that period securities to be
'given for two years for the good behaviour of the
party. 'For the second offence, the punishment of
which was at present two years imprisonment, he
should suggest the propriety of substituting trans-
portation: He would. propose to punish the coun-
terfeiting of Bank tokens by transportation for four-
teen years. He then obtained leave to bring in a
Bill to prevent the counterfeiting of Bank tokens,
and, al,O to prevent the 'minting of papers to re-
semble bank notes.

The Tobacco Pipe-clay Bill went through a Com-
mittee, the Report of which was received, and the
Bill ordered to be engrosse 1, and read a third time
to-morrow.

The Reports of the Woolmer, Holt, and Park-
hurst Forests Bills were brought up and agrerd to,
and the Bills ord-red for a third reading to-morrow.

WILBERFORCE presentei a Poition iron) the'
Cutlers apd Manufattwers of Sheffield, against the
East India monopoly, and also one on the same
subject from Wakefield.—Ordered to lie on the
table.

The Order of the My was read for. the Ch3rita.
hie Donations Bill being tend a third time. Sir W.
CURTIS moved as an amendment, tkat it should be
postponed to that day six months.
Mr. WILBERFOR6E spoke in. favour of the Bill.

Mr. LOCKHART said, that no petition appeared
against the Bill but one from , the Merchant
Tailors, and he thought it rather strange that the
Gendemen of the City, who had so lately proved
their anxiety to redress the pecuniary abuses of
the Govr.rnment, should be adverse to the.redres-
sing of those which existed in Charitable Esta-
blishments.

Mr. WRATTISLAW spoke in favour of the Bill.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM.thought the Bill unnecessary,
and calculated only to put money in_the pockets of
those persons to whom the registt rii.g of donations
was to be committed:

After a few words from. Mr. Thompson and Mr.
HERBEt, in support of the Bill, and Sir W. Curtis
against it, the House divided.

For the third reading - 32
Against it - -
Majority -21
The Bi.lll was then read a third lime,' and passed.