The Sun.
London, England, 1841-11-09 00:00:00

CORONER'S INQUEST.

An inquest was held at four o'clock, yesterday even-
ing, at the Grapes public-house, Bow-street, before Mr.
Higgs and a Jury, on the body of Michael Aungier, who
had been found dead on being removed from a cab on
the morning of Saturday last.
Mr. Abrahams attended professionally for the prose-
cutors, and Mr. Scard for the parties charged on suspicion
with having eclministered to the deceased deleterious
chugs, which caused his death.

John Hanley, rn °Meer to the Sheriff of Middlesex,
deposed that he had levied a warrant, by order of the
Sheriff, on the house of John Joseph Paccard, No. 59,
Drury-lane, and he had put the deceased, Michael Aun-
gier, in possession. 1„e had seen the body of the
deceased on Saturday, and it was the same per-
son. On Friday last, at about twelve o'clock,
when he had put him in possession, he was
pei fectly sober and apparently in good health. Ho had
known the man during the last eighteen months, and
he believed him to have been of sober habits. He had
been over the house since Friday, and he believed
nothing had been removed from it. He had employed
the deceased in the same way before, and he had never
known h:m to be subject to fits.
John Kemp, a cab driver, in addition to his evidence
published in The Sun on Saturday, said the deceased
when put in the cab was alive, but he groaned, and
seemed completely insensible. On being refused admit-
tance at Chancery-lane he drove to Bow-street, and took
the deceased out of the cab and placed him on
the steps of a door. He appeared at that time
to be dead. A policeman came up and took
him on a stretcher to the Bow-street station-house.
On going to Chancery-lane he tried to rouse the de-
ceased, but he could not do so. The deceased had been
half an hour in the cab, when the witness had
taken him to the station-house. The deceased smelt
strongly of rum, or brandy, or some such drink. The
deceased had fallen down twice while sitting in the cab
—the first time in Chancery-lane, when the witness
lifted him up ; and the second time in Bow-street, before
witness had taken him out. He received half-a-crown
at the Hummums from the gentlemen who were with
him on the box. The three gentlemen assisted in putting
the deceased into the cab. The deceased had been kept
by the witness on the steps of the house in Bow-street
about five minutes when the policeman came up and took
him to the station-house. Witness could not say where
the deceased had died.

Mr. Griffith Foulkes, of No. 2, Russell-st feet, stated
that he was the landlord of the house occupied by Mr.
Paccard. The witness then handed over a letter he had
received on Saturday morning from Mr. Paccard to the
following effect :—" How would you advise me to act in
this matter ? The man got intoxicated last night, and
my brother and Mr. Kennot thought it best to take him
out for a drive." Mr. Foulkes replied to this letter as
follows :—" If Mr. Paccard is in the house Mr. Foulkes
would advise him to come out, for he is not perhaps
aware that the officer who was sent out in the cab is now
dead." The witness then stated that he had a claim on
Paccard for only 131., or a quarter's rent.
The further examination of witnesses was then post-
poeed till two o'clock this day, the presence of the
Coroner being required at another inquest.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
TATTERSALL'S.—YESTERDAY.
DERBY.
Nothing of any, consequence was done on the first class
favourites, and in the second, or 40 to 1 lot, although
some were backed rather freely, no decisive movement
took place. We may state, however, that the Palinurus
and IThtcor parties were in considerable force, and their
fancies," as well as Moss Trooper and Scalteen, are
to become better favourites. Closing prices :-
10 to 1 agst Colonel Anson's Attila—taken
12 to 1 agst Colonel Peel's Chatham—taken
20 to 1 abet Lord Verulam's Robert de Gorham—
taken and afterwards offered
30 to 1 asst Mr. G. Clarke's Lord of Molderness—t
30 to 1 agst Mr. Alaher's Ballinkeele—taken and
afterwards offered
33 to 1 agst Lord Westminster's Auckland—ditt®
33 to 1 agst Hon. S. Herbert's Nessus—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Cooke's Palinurus—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Ramshay's Moss Trooper—taken
and afterwards offered
40 to 1 agst Mr. Batson's Brother to Potentia—ditto
40 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Dirce colt—ditto
45 to 1 agst Lord Miltown's Scalteen—take 50 to 1
50 to 1 agst Mr. G. Clarke's Master Thomas—t
600 to 500 on Three colt agst Meteor—taken
A match for 1,0001. a side has been made between Mr.
Johnstone's Charles the Twelfth and Mr. Lichtwald's
Hyllus, to run at the next Goodwood Meeting, even
weights.

HUNTING APPOINTMENTS.
Baron Rothschild's stag-hounds will meet on Thurs-
day at Hardwieke-101.
Mr. Villebois's stag-hounds, Saturday, Swaff ham
Splashes-11.
Devon and Somerset stag-hounds, Friday, Post on
Molland Common-10.
Major-General Wyndham's hounds, IVednesday, Lea
Farm; Friday, The Compasses; Saturday, Malham-10i.
Col. G. Wyndham's hounds, Wednesday, Avisford
Hill; Friday, Fizlea.
Surrey Union hounds, Thursday, Baynards; Saturday,
Pain's Hill-101.
Sir John Cope's bounds, Wednesday, No Man's Land;
Friday, Yattenden ; Saturday, Finchampsted Ridges-1 0;41.
Norfolk Hounds, Saturday, Necton Tuns-101.
Mr. Brand's Hounds, Wednesday, Warden Hills ; Fri-
day, Aston Bury-10:z.
Puckeridge bounds, Wednesday, Langley Green ; Sa-
turday, Chipping-102.
Lord Ducie s hounds, Thursday, Highworth ; Satur-
day, Cold Harbour.
Heythrop hounds, Wedneiday, Tar Wood ; Friday,
Eyford.

Berkshire hounds, Thursday, Milton Hill.
Mr. Drake's hounds, Thursday, Whitecross Green ;
Saturday, Bicester Windmill-10i.
Mr. Archer's hounds, Thursday, Dolsdown--.101.
Sir W. Carew's hounds, Thursday, Castle Dyke-11.
P. B. H., Friday, Antron Gate-101.
Duke of Rutland's hounds, Wednesday, Aswarby Hall;
Friday, Bloxhohn Hall; Saturday, Truham
Marquis of Hastings' hounds, Wednesday, Bunny
Park; Saturday, Cavendish Bridge-102.
Quorn hounds, Thursday, Widmerpool; Friday, Key-
th orpe-1 01.
Duke of Grafton's hounds, Wednesday, Brayfield
Furze ; Friday, Woodend Green-101.
Atherstono hounds, Wednesday, Kingbury Wood ;
Thursday, Shuttington Bridge; Saturday, Cadeby Toll-
bar-1
Pembrokeshire hounds, Thursday, Hill Mountain-10.
Tivyside hounds, Thursday, Boncath ; Saturday,
Eglwysrw Village-10.

York and Ainsty hounds, Thursday, Brandsby Bar ;
Saturday, Eivington-101.
Earl of liarewood's hounds, Wednesday, Towton ;
Friday, Thorp Arch-101.
Eddlethorpe hounds, Wednesday, Westow ; Friday,
Mr. Boaville's-101.
Sinnington hounds, Friday, Riseborough-9.
Torquay harriers, Thursday, Manor Inn.
Holderness hounds, Thursday, Catwick Mill ; Satur
day, North Dalton Whim-11.
Bedale hounds, Wednesday, York Gate; Friday, Pep.
per liall-10k.
Cleve!and hounds, Thursday, Pinchingthorpe-10.
Hurworil hounds, Thursday, Dalton Wood ; Satur-
day, Neasham-101-.
Sir J. Langham s harriers, Thursday, Windom Mil]
Wynyard hounds, Friday, Newbiggen-101.
Sir M. W. Ridley's hounds, Wednesday, Matfen; Fri-
day, Beaufront Wood Head; Saturday, Nunnykirk—lol.
Mr. Robertson's hounds, Wednesday, Ford Castle ;
Friday, Longridge; Saturday, Lowiek-101.
Allendale hounds, Saturday, Heltwistle Hill-9.
Slaley hounds, Wednesday, East Dipton ; Saturday,
Dotland Park-9.
Chesterfield harriers, Friday, Newbold Common-101.
llaydon hounds, Wednesday, Langley Castle ; Satur..
day, Fourstones Whim-9.
Prudhoe and Derwent hounds, Friday, Barlow-10.
Mr. Watson's hounds, Thursday, Forest Wood-10.
BoroUghbridge harriers, Friday, Rockliffe-104.
Duke of Beaufort's hounds, Wednesday, Draycot ;
Thursday, Eight Bells, Coal-pit Heath ; Saturday, Petty
France.
Whitefield harriers, Friday, The Leigh.
U. P. hounds, Wednesday, Radburn Bar ; Friday,
Seven Stars, Fox-lane.
N. F. IL, Thursday, Abbotts Pond ; Saturday, the
Fighting Cocks, Godhill-101.
Hureley hounds, Friday, Batt Downs-101.
Vine hounds, Wednesday, Hurstbourne Park; Frisby,
Chinhatn.
IL IL, Thursday, the Anchor, Ropiey; Saturday, Five
Lanes, llollybourne,
Carlisle hounds, Thursday, Corby-10.
AilAton harriers, Wednesday, Slack; Friday, Mickle-
' thwaite—q.
Wigton harriers, 'Wednesday, Goose Green ; Friday,
Micklethwaite-101-.
Union harriers, Wednesday, 'Wellington Intl Prickly,
Kennel-9.
East Sussex hounds, Thnivlclay, Barley Mow, Selnaes-
ton ; Saturday, D,iching Bosthill-104.
Carmarthen hounds, Friday, Plough and Harrow-10.
Pantykendy hounds, Friday, Pieton Castle, Lland-
woor-10.
Mr, l'Vyndham's hounds, 'Wednesday, Little Ridge ;
Friday, Race Stand-101.
Yarnborough harriers, Thursday, Langford Willow-
beds-10,3-.
Tynemouth beai,qes, Friday, Callercoats-10.
Brecon hounds, Friday, Lachvane-10,Pennoyre .
tiotilich, Friday, Ba4tict kill I~Q,

Me. Wall's hounds, Wednesday, Broully,4 Saturday,
Fern Wen----91.
Earl Fitzhardinge's hounds, Wednesday, Dumbleton ;
Saturday, Coombe End.
Lord Portman's hounds, Friday, Elcomb.
Tytherly harriers, Wednesday, West Dean ; Friday,
the fifth mile-stone, Sutton Scotney Road--11.

THE BRITISH AND AMERICAN
NAVIES.
TO THE EDITOR OF TEE SUN.

SIR-Ir. The Sun of Oct. 23 you state that a great
many of our small line-of-battle ships are to be reduced
to 50 gun frigates, similar to the Dublin, Winchester,
&c., so as zo compete with the large frigates of Ame-
rica and France. You are mistaken in supposing that
the Winchester, Southampton, President, and many
others of the same class are of a similar force to the
Dublin, Warspite, &c., though they mount the same
number of guns. To explain this clearly I will go back
to the late American war. In consequence of the
American frigates, which carried 24-pounders, taking
three of our large frigates, mounting 18-pounders, seve-
ral ships were built about the same size and force as the
then first class American frigates. The Winchester,
Southampton, Portland, and others are of this class ;
they are about 1,400 tons, and until the late change in
the armament mounted long 24-pounders on the main
:deck, with a complement of 400 men. The President,
..Writhe same class, was built on the plan of the American
President, which ship we captured. Still taking the
lead in having very large frigates, the Americans dis-
continued building any of similar force to those they
possessed, and have ever since built a still larger class,
nearly 1,800 tons, mounting 54 guns, long 32-pounders,
on the main deck, having ports on the gangways to en-
able them (when required) to mount 62 guns. To
meet this class, and also the new French double-banked
frigates of 62 guns, the Barham, Dublin, and about a dozen
other small line-of-battle ships were cut down, and one
(the Vernon) built. They mount 50 guns, long 32-
pounders, on the main deck, and ate about 1,750 tons.
They are as far superior to the Winchester class as that
class is to the old 18-pounder frigate.
As much ignorance exists on these points, I am
anxious that the non-professional public should have
the subject explained to them, that they may not again
form such wrong opinions respecting naval actions as
they did when two or three of our frigates were captured
by the Americans in 1812. I know it is difficult to
make those ignorant of the subject understand that one
frigate of 50 guns may be far inferior in force to another
frigate of 50 guns ; but when they know that one is
1,400 tons, mounts 24-pounders on the main deck, with
a crew of 400 men, and the other 1,750 tons, mounts
32-pounders on the main deck, with a crew of 500 men,
they will see what a great difference really exists. By
the new armament in our service the 24-pounders in
the second class, and the 18-pounders is the third class,
have been changed for 32-pounders medium guns, of the
same weight as their old guns, but of course much in-
ferior in range and effect to long 32-pounders. This
does not alter the class, as the President can only be
considered an equal match for an American frigate of
the same size, whether she mounts medium 32-pounders
or long 21-pounders.
To make all this plainer, I will endeavour to put the
classes in a tabular form :

Guns.

FIRST CLASS FRIGATES. Tons,
American Brandywine
Potomac, &c. 1770 54 long 32pdrs 550
English Vernon, and 11750 50 long 32pdrs 500
Razees

SECOND CLASS.
C United States
American -, 1 1500 52 long 24pdrs 450
( Constitution
Winchester
English 11400 50 medium 32pdrs 400
President, &c.

THIRD CLASS.
American / Macedonia
CPnaress

7 •:=va.4; Druid,
. . ) '.,eLgasear _
Eng,as.l -)Bionde, Thalia,
&c. 1,1100 42 medium 32pdrs 300
i

I am not certain the Americans have adopted
t'ae plan of arming a;i ships with 32-pounders of differ-
ent length and weight ; I have thf'..efore given them
their old armaments. The Fren)a were, I believe, the
first that did so. The calibre of their guns is a little
larger than ours, their 301 b. shot being about 33i1b.
English weight.
By this table it will be seen that each class of Ame-
rican ships has a fair match, in a corresponding class in
our navy ; but to expect either of the smaller classes to
contend successfully with ships of the class above them
would be expecting more than our navy ever did (with
one or two exceptions) throughout the last French war.
That we should attempt it, and sometimes succeed, I
have no doubt, particularly with our present system of
gunnery ; but should the attempt (which it sometimes
would with much inferior force) prove unsuccessful, it
must not be supposed that our navy is inferior to what
it once was. This should be determined only by ac-
tions between ships of the same class ; and should a
war with America be forced on us, on no point will a
clear understanding of the force of our ships be more
necessary than on the two classes of 50 gun frigates ;
for if one of our second class was captured by them,
they would gladly seize on any statement in an English
paper that went to prove that class equal to their
largest frigates. The fear of this has made me trouble
you with such a long explanation.
Oct. 25. AMIGO.
P.S. Should a war break out, a table showing the
class and force of our ships, compared with those of the
enemy, should be published, that in case of either suc-
cess or failure the public would be able to form a just
opinion on the merits of the case.

ALLIGATORS AND THEIR ROAR.
The large alligators and caymans are the foremost
among the inhabitants of the water which prey upon
the fishes. There they lie, like dry logs of wood, at the
foot of some cataract, their mouth half open, ready to
snatch and swallow what the increased rapidity of the
current should carry down the fall. How frequently
have we seen them in that situation while ascending the
upper river Berbice, which beyond all others seemed to
swarm with these horrid monsters. I have already ob-
served how often they tore the fish from our spring
hooks, and carried fish, hook, and line away ; and we.
naturally did not owe them good-will for their steeiing
propensities, which served as an additional proof to
what extent their depredations must be carried on ; and
although abundance of fish during certain seasons pre-
vails in the rivers of the interior, the cayman is never-
theless the most covetous of all animals, and envies
every other successful fisher. This lie gives to under-
stand, particularly by angry growls, if the 1412 with the
eaptive is drawn in, and his attempts to intercept the
captured fish before it be drawn on the land should have
proved unsuccessful. While we were encamped at the
mouth of the river Rewa, or Roiwa, during our last
expedition, the afternoon of the 21st of October had
passed under thunder and rain ; but at the approach of
night nature lulled herself to rest, and only the drop-
pings from the leaves told of the former storm. I was
lying sleepless in my hammock, and I watched two In-
dians who had their lines out to entrap some hungry
fish. A kilbagre, lured away by the tempting bait, had
snapped at it ; and the fisherman, acquainted by the
stress on hi 4 line of his success, drew the unwilling fish
towards his canoe, when the roar of a cayman awoke
the echo of the woods ; and rushing towards the course
with all his might, he recaptured the fish, as the asto-
nished Indians were just on the point of drawing it in ;
and with it went the hook and a great part of the line.
At our second night's camp, after we had entered the
river Rupununi, the Indians were likewise fishing ; and
whenever a fish was caught and drawn toward the
canoe, the caymans commenced such a roar that it baf-
led description. We distinctly heard that there were
three ; first one commenced, when the fish that was
drawn in began to struggle ; and another answered him,
until the noise was so great that the Indians, as if 'in
self-defence, and to intimidate the approaching raou-
sters, set up a shout themselves. Indeed, the 'oaring
of the cayman is so strong, that in the still hour of
night it may be heard a mile off, an tliere i som
thing awful and indescribable in it ; it is not the tiger's e-
growl, the bull's bellowing, the lion's roar, it is differ-
ent from all, and really terrific when that sound bursts
suddenly upon the ear, I might compare it to the
snorting of a frightened horse, if the strength of that
snort could be increased ten—no, twentyfold in effect
—Sehomburgh's Fishes of Guiana.

LLOYDS' SHIPPING,
VESSELS SPOKUN wrrir.----The Harvest Home, from
Singapore to Calcutta, June 22d, off Palmyras Reef ;
Psyche, Bristol to Launceston, Sept. 20th, lat. 1 N., lon.
20 W. ; Tropic, bound to Port Jackson, 24th, lat. 8,
lon. 21 ; General Wolfe, Demerara to London, 26th ult.,
lat. 45, lon. 15 ; Shakspeare, from Liverpool, 29th ult.,
lat. 45, lon, 12, by the Persian, arrived off Beachy Head.
Normandie, of New York, from Liverpool, 29th ult., lat.
46, ion. 16 ; Ann Wise, of Whitehaven, for St. Thomas,
lat. 24, 1011, 26 ; Vitulia, London to Smyrna, 14th ult.,
or Malaga; Pilot, Leghorn to London, 14th ult., by the
Placid, arrived at Falmouth. Equator (French barque),
for Mauritius, 29th ult., lat. 39, lon. 14 ; Calder, London
to Barbadoes, 4th inst., lat. 49, lon. 11, by the Isabella
Wood, arrived at ditto. Freedom, of Brixham, 15th
ult., Mt' Cape St. Vincent ; Providence, from Liverpool,
28th, lat. 42, lon. 10, by the Venus, arrived at ditto.
Joseph Fenton, from Leghorn ; Minerva, Havre to
Malta, 13th ; Volunteer, Malta to Gloucester, 13th, off
Cape .-t. Vincent ; Thames, London to Jamaica, out I',
days, lat. 41, lon. 12, by the Charles, arrived at dit:‘,
Corelia, Almeira to London, Ist inst., lat. 41, lon.
1 . ~..,„
11, w ith 1,.. of sails, jib boom, and boat stove.
Zenhyr, Alexandria to Cork,. 9d, lat. 46, ion. 10, by
inst., lat.
the Lady Wright, arrived at ditto. A ship under Dutch
signal B 35, 31st nit., /at. 42, ion 13 ,
colours, private .
Briton's Pride, Smyrna to Bristol, 3d inst., lat. 45, kn.
10 ; Duchess of Kent; Smyrna to Bristol, sth
49, lon. 7, by the Leadbitter, arrived at ditto. Mermaid,
of Guernsey, lon. 6, by the Saucy Lass, arrived oft -Dart-
mouth. Philomela, of Boston, 28th ult„ lat. 45, lon. 19,
arrived at di
by the Hatinah Grayson, arrived at Portsmouth. lliron--
de.11,,, Africa to London, lat. 31, lon, 33, by the Governor,
arive"d at Plymouth. Frederick Jacobo, Bremen, New,
14, lat. 4,
Orleans, lat. 49, lon. 3, by the Freedom,
sba.nrirook steamer, Bristol to Sydney, July auto.
River Plato, July 29, 1
lou, 11; Brunette, Sunderland to
lat 4 N, lon. 12 W. ; Carnatie, 1,
~_ ,°4(1011 to China, 30th,
lat. 3, ion. 12 i Exveriellqq wiv 4, QAII it) China, 31."

do
lat. 13, lon. 13 ; James and Mary, barque, Loun e
China, Aug. 2,lat. 1, lon. 11, by the Bucephalus, arriv4
at the Cape. John, London to Sydney, July 2, I
lon. 21 ; Seringapatam, London to Madras, aug. 5' I;
22 S, lon. 28 ; Mary Sharp, Clyde to Calcutta ,1„,
lat. 27, lon. 26 ; Mars, Marseilles to Mauritius, 12tht
30, lon. 20 ; Emma, China to London, 31st, os'
Cape, by the Thomas Wood, arrived at ditto. lat.
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THE MARKETS
PRICE OF BREAD. "
Ihe highest price of Bread lathe Metroolis. 11 10d, for the
Loaf. Good Bread may be had at B,td.
PRICES OF SEEDS.
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Sew English Red ClOver...6Gs 84s St. Fein .................. 05 XS
Old Ditto Ditto 3 —s 'Rye GISS8•••••••••••••• s
New Foreign Ditto —8 62s 90s'Pacey Grass .. bOi 5"
Old Ditto Ditto
New White Clover
Old Ditto Ditto
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PRICE OF RAW FAT, per stone of Bibs.
Price of Tallow (as stated by the Tallow Melters) ........ •"'"
PitlCE OF OIL. £52
Rape Oil, brown, per ton 54 0
Ditto, refined
Linseed Oil IS I°

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last market ,day, 55.

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