The Sun.
London, England, 1841-12-10 00:00:00

characters. I was paid for my time by Mr. Croucher.
I was paid 7s. 6d. a day. I was then ale-conner of
Shoreditch. I did not solicit Mr. Johnson of Old-
street-road. I know Cayle the policeman. I have been
talking with him since he was examined here to-day. He
said he was asked if he had been over to the
Bench. That was all he said to me. I will
swear he said nothing more about it. He said I have
been told about never going over to the Bench. He did
not say in my hearing when the visit was made to the
Bench. The first two visits took place a fortnight since.
Mr. Martin, Mr. Croucher, Mr. Harker, Cayle, and my-
self went. Ido not think there was anybody else. There
were two persons went with us whose names I do not
know. They are now outside. I did neither. The
defendants asked for Mr. Martin. Went in before I did.
On going in Haggett and Darrow were in the lobby. I
did not see the Marshal or Deputy-Marshal. Those
were the only two of the defendants that I saw there. On
our second visit I went into the tap and stayed there
about an hour. Cayle was with me, but no one else of
our party. Darrew and Haggett were there. I volun-
teered to give them some half-and-half. I knew the
indictment had been found against them. We went to
see if we could see any persons we knew. We did not
recognise anymore. I paid for the beer. I have never
been repaid. I have no account to put it down in. I shall
never ask for it. Ido not expect to be paid. I had no
instructions to spend any money. I suppose I paid
about ls. 6d. I will swear that I did not hear Cayle
say that he had sworn in this Court that I had paid for
the beer.
Cross-examined by Mr. PAYNE—I began to watch in
the Hall on the third day. I have had about three
guineas altogether from Mr. Pearson.
W. Browning was called upon his subpoena but did not
appear. _ _

Mr. H. MorriS—l am a plumber, painter, and glazier.
I remember the election for Bridgemaster, in January.
I voted at that election. I was at a beer-shop belonging
to Silverthorne, in the City-road, on a Tuesday
evening. During the election Haggett, Snow,
and Silverthorne were present. We were drink-
ing. A man named Knightly came into the
room and spoke, to Haggett. They went out together.
On Haggett's return I asked what he had got to
say. He said the election was going on in the City, and
if I liked to go down in the morning I could have ss.
every time I voted, and every one else might have the
same. He spoke to all there, and said he hoped we
should all be down at the Bell. I went the next morn-
ing and roet Haggett and Black at Silverthorne's. We
went to the Bell Inn, near the Guildhall, into a back room
on the first floor. Silverthorne, Jones. and Snow, came
after. Shervill was in the room when we arrived.
Hogg and Murray came shortly after, as did Knightly.
I asked how it was going to be done. Murray said you
could go and poll in any Company you liked. I said I
did net understand it, as I was not a freeman. He said
it did not matter how I did it, if I polled for Gibbs. On
our way to the Guildhall Hogg said to me, " You stand,
and when I nod my head you go to the poll-book."
I went to the poll and waited until he nodded his
head, and then I polled with Mr. Harker, and gave
my name Mr. Morris, Hoxton-square. I polled as of the
Comb-makers. Langley, Salmon, Haggett, and Black
were with me. I saw them go up, but can't say if they
polled. We went back to the Bell. Hogg took down
the name of the Company we had polled in. We then
had some refreshment. I saw Murray go out with a lot
more and return with them and take down their names

as they had done with me. In about half an hour I went
with Murray and polled again. Murray asked me if I
would go again, and I said Yes, I did'nt mind. Langley,
Salmon, and Clark went with me, then I voted again as
Wm. Smith, of the Plumbers' Company. I then went to
the furthest booth. I then returned to the Bell and

gave the name and Company to Hogg, as I had done
before; the others did the same, some giving their names
to Hogg, and some to Murray. After remaining about
an hour I returned to the Guildhall with Hogg, and polled
asW. Mattwood. Shervill, Silverthorne, Clark and Black,
went with me on this third occasion. They went up to
the polling-place as I did. When Silverthorne came

back'he said he had polled as Thorne, brewer, of Castle-
street, City-road. I had not always the same clothes
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on. We had a Mackintosh, which Was sometimes worn
by one and sometimes by another. When I polled a
third time I had on Haggett's coat and he had on my
Mackintosh. Silverthorne bad the Mackintosh once.
Hogg, Murray, Shervill, and Black were present during
these arrangements about the dress. After polling the
third time I asked Hogg for my money, he said I must
stop till the poll was closed. I did not get it then. When
the poll was closed we went three and four at a time to
the Three Brewers, London-wall. Murray was there,
and sent us to a public-house in Moorfields. Hogg, who
was in the bar, sent me up stairs. Snow, Haggett,
Black, Murray, Bradstock, Silverthorne, and all of them
were there. I asked for the money, and Hogg
said stop till Shervill comes in, for he has
got the list. When Shervill came it was found
that Haggett and I had voted three times, and
Black twice. Black got change for a sovereign,
and I had 6s. Bd. The sovereign was given by Hogg, and
had been lent him by a man named Powell. It was ar-
ranged to pay the other pound at Brookman's, in Leaden-
hall market. I, Snow, Haggett, and Silverthorne, went
to Silverthorne's beer-shop, where I sold the other 6s. Bd.
to Snow for 4s. The next clay I went to the Bell, and
did not see anybody there. I was told Darrow was in
custody. I went the next afternoon and polled again.
In the Hall I saw Murray, who asked me if I wAtild poll
once. I told him I did not mind. He said, Be very care-
ful ; there is a little suspicion. I polled as John Rey-
nolds, plumber, Redcross-street. I was taken into cus-
tody. lam neither a freeman nor a liveryman. I saw
M‘Namara on the Tuesday, talking to Hogg.
They were on the stairs. I was in the
back room. I have not seen Black since.
Ido not see him in Court now, that I am aware of. I
know Brookes. He is not the same man as is meant by
Black. I saw Brookes in the back-room during the
election, but never saw him poll. I saw'Clark at the
Bell. I saw him about my bail when I was in custody.
I went before the Grand Jury in April. Haggett came
to me a week before that, and asked me to go and see
Hogg. Hogg and I met afterwards, on the day I ought
to have gone before the Grand Jury. We drank to-
gether, and he said if I would not go before the Grand
Jury he would allow me a 11. a week as long as I had
any occasion to stop away. Powell and Sherrill were
present. I have recognized, Langley, Salmon, Snow,
Darrow, and Haggett, since they have been in custody.
I have been at work for Mr. Howlett, Aldersgate-street,
since I went before the Grand Jury. APNamara once
said he would do something for me, if I would only go
away. This was at a public house in Smithfield.
Cross-examined by Mr. KELLY—I do not know the
sign of the public-house. I was in custody about six
weeks on a charge of perjury. A bill was found against
me. I made a confession to the Governor of Newgate.
I expected to be tried on the Monday. Mr. Pearson
called and said to me he had seen what I had said to the
Governor, and that if I would tell all I knew about it I
should be let out. I was told it would be better for me.
I have had a policeman with me for the last two or three
days. I have been in custody four or five times before
this for being intoxicated, and such as that. The first
time was on suspicion of stealing some shoes ; that was
four years ago, when I was 22. I was in custody two
days. Ido not recollect when I was next in custody.
I have been twice in custody on a charge of stealing—
once for getting into a man's stable, where I went to
lie down.

Mr. KELLY—Were you not in custody on a charge of
stealing hay ? Witness—No, sir.
Mr. KELLY—Straw ? Witness—Yes, sir. I do not
recollect why I was in custody on the other occasion. I
was once in custody on suspicion on a charge of stealing
in Ratcliffe-highway.
Mr. KELLY—Stealing what ?
Witness—Nothing. There was nothing to steal. This
is the first time I ever turned Queen's evidence. I have
been committed as a rogue and vagabond for three months
to Clerkenwell. I polled four times at the election, and
on the three last times I swore that I had not polled
before. I did not understand the oath. I knew that I
was swearing I had not polled before, and I knew that
I had polled before. I swore that I was a freeman and
liveryman, and I knew that I was then swearing falsely.
Cross-examined by Mr. THOMAS—I have not lived
with my wife for the last twelve months. She used to
assist in supporting me. She had no business. She did
not use to go out of a night. She went out of a day, and
sometimes brought home money to me. She never
brought any men home. I believe she obtained the
money by seeing somebody else, and this I knew when
living with her.
When this witness left the Court, his exit was accom-
panied by a loud hiss. This expression of disapproba-
tion was, however, checked by the officers.
Charles Langley—l keep a public-house in Moorfields.
I know Mr. Hogg, and saw him there soon after the
election in January. There were several persons with
him who were not in the habit of coming there. Hogg
came first, and asked to have the up-stairs room for a
short time. He said some men were coming ; there
were from twenty to thirty. They had something to
drink. Hogg.paid for it. I gave him 7/. or 8/. of silver
change. They remained about an hour and a half.
Ann Webster—l kept the Bell in January last. I know
Simpson. He engaged a room two or three days before
the election. He was alone. I saw him and M‘Namara
together several times after. Many persons came to the
room after it was engaged. Among them M'Namara and
Simpson. Simpson paid for the room. The persons who
used it had refreshments. I received tickets and money,
the tickets were paid by Simpson. I do not think
M'Namara paid for any. They
were signed, some by
M'Namara and some by Simpson.
Thos. Irving, the waiter at the Bell in January last,
corroborated the evidence of the last witness.
Cross-examined by Mr. JAavis—The great room was
the Committee-room; all the rest of the house was open
to our customers..
in
I acted
January. as
check
-clerk
hpter at e
I know defendant Powell, and saw him go up to the
polling place No. 5. There was a man named Darrow
there, but I should not know him again.
John White—l am a printing-ink manufacturer.
During the election in January last I was at the Roe-
buck in the Hackney road, with Drysdale, Turner, and
several others. Some one came in there, but I cannot
recognise him here. I saw a person in prison. I be-
lieve it was the man, but am not sure. I think it was.
Lord DENMAN—You had better call some one else ;
he is not sure about it.
G. K. Trourne—l am a jeweller. During the election
in a person named Gibbs applied to me about
it. raereyd to meet him next day at the Jolly Coopers,
January
agreed
in Clerkenwell. I there saw a man named Browning.
I went to the Bell and saw a person called Simpson.
Browning was present. I never saw Simpson again. I
saw the person to-day that I consider to be the person,
in Palace-yard. I voted on the day I saw Simpson. I I
did not vote in my own name, and I have forgotten the
name I voted in. It was written on a card which was
given to me by Browning, at the Coopers, and he intro-
duced me by that name to Simpson. No one was with