The Sun.
London, England, 1841-09-25 00:00:00

IqOIINING Stlll%?`

to come forward at once and propose anew Corn-la
ask him, would he be satisfied if now, when corn Cntl be
admitted at a duty of Is., I should proposes duty 01
tid
—(Hear, hear, from the Ministerial BBenches.)he be satisfied with the adoption of that rerned.Y.%
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was heretofore proposed ? I make this observatte
spew the impropriety of resorting to any sudden an
d„)
stantaneous remedy for nubile distress._(ljear, hew.z
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The Hon. Gentleman asf.:s me if I deny the distressool.-;
certainly do not deny the distress. I believe that inot
manufactueing districts great distress prevail"t,
while I express a feeling of deep regret
at the e%
istence of this distress, I do not wish to to)`,4
so desponding a view of the condition of the count'
as I think some are disposed to do. I do 1
believe, speaking generally, that the condition
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this country is such as to forbid all hope of returnin
prosperity. I hold in my hand a document which any
one would wish to possess who was studying the enrlales
tion of the county, but which none can use with offs „
except those who are entrusted with the administraflow,
of public' affairs. I allude to the deposits and the 1%1'1'4
.e.
drawals of the Savings' Banks. I know how delicate
thing is the the task of correcting inis-statements on sue, it
a subject : but if there are misapprehensions with resq
to the condition of the country, it is right that they=lit not?
be corrected. lam not at all denying the existence
distress •, but I think I see in the paper which I hold s,,
my hand indications of an improvement, which at b%
forbids the apprehension which has been expressed in
universal bankruptcy. It is an account of the s'l
paid into the National Debt Office and withdra,ll:o
by the trustees of Friendly ", and Saving St'clnt
ties in three successive months in the Preseitit
year. The return is for the United Kingdom.
the month of June, 1841, the sums paid in amounts
to 66,442/.; the sums drawn out in the same monthlyr;
86,364/., exhibiting the melancholy fact that the sainht:
drawn out in that wonth exceeded the sums paid in It
the sum of 20,0001. In July, however, the sums 44
into the Savings' Banks amounted to 124,9001, oultie
the sums drawn out reached only to 87,0001. In " a
month of August the sums paid in were 100,000!,
the sums drawn out only 50,0001. Now, observe, tirtbly
June.the sums drawn out exceeded the sums paid„.al
20,0001; 'in the month of August the sums pail-, Lellie'to
ceeded the sums paid out by 50,0001., and amounThly
double the sum withdrawn. Whether this was pa'fbe
owing to the confidence engendered throue-hout„-0,-
country in consequence of the change, of A'dminies,'
tion I cannst Hear. hear," and laughter
both sides of the House.) The Hon. Gentleman blij(joe
take a partial and interested view of the subject. mt
of my reasons for hoping for an improvement iFt t'od
see an increased confidence throughout the country ;least
those impressions which I entertained before are at 'eald
confirmed by the fact—it may be only simultaneous' tit
not stand in the relation of cause and effect."' %.
whereas in the month of rJune the sums drawn out ege
ceeded the sums paid in by 20,000 L, when the Pre:e..
of a new Administration appeared about to be by
lised, the sums paid in exceeded those drawn out no
50,0001.—(Hear, hear.) I state the fact—l draw. 01
inference from it, except that it constitutes an addict to
reason for pausing before we attempt too Suddenly
apply a remedy for distress. Up to the 11th of,SePt
ber the sums paid in had been 32,000/. and the log
drawn out 20,000/. It is true that a great proportion of One
deposits are made by the retail dealers, but it is get of
rally admitted that their prosperity is a correct to this
that of the working classes. It may be said that 'fit.
return comprises the agricultural as well as the ma the
facturing districts. This table, however, comprises
amounts paid in and withdrawn in Lancashire, v"*lta
shire, Cheshire, Glasgow, Birmingham, Coventry. and
Norwich. The gross total of the sums paid is 123,32,91111-
of those drawn out 114,3781. ; showing, even in the -aid
nufacturing districts alone, an increase in the sues Pore
in as compared with those drawn out. lam quite 5,0 v
that great distress exists in Lancashire, but our In
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must be taken upon general results rather than "Pbe
individual cases. Now I find that in Manchester invits
last three months the sums paid into the savings' b;1 ;
amounted to 25,3501., and the sums drawn out to 22,74 i.
so that in Manchester there has been a considerable,iich
crease in the sums paid in as compared with those v".to•
have been drawn out.—(Hear.) It really is of great ye
portance to look calmly at this subject. I think eat,
shown that her Majesty's Government are not indiffe.t
I refer to this document, not for the purpose of denP-1()i
the distress, but because I deprecate that exaggeration st
it which would demand immediate, precipitate, and rnthe
delusive measures of relief.—(Hear, hear.) Sic' ter
Hon. Gentleman says, that in the town of 3.lanc"
the Conservative candidates who came forward had
scribed upon their banners " Cheap bread, no Corn-liti`e
no Poor-laws, and high wages, Murray and Entswist
If that was so, it is remarkable that it is the only .
which was referred to, and in that the effect was a"
tire failure. This unfortunate candidate, in a mannipeo
turing district, who inscribes " No Poor-laws an"/ 0,
Corn-laws" upon his banners is rejected, and the It°o,
Gentleman is returned. lam convinced that the co on
try approves of the reserve which I have maintair.eatio,
the subject of the Corn-laws. Our attention 0' co,
indeed, been called to the subject of be•
to the Poor-laws, and to the Corn-laws ; but my firm the
lief is that the intelligent and. thinking portion Or the
community in the three kingdoms will think that, in d
constitution of a new Corn-law, under the '3'2'l'l of
one who has been excluded from power for a period
be
ten years, it is rational and right that there shectil ise
time for mature deliberation and the adoption 0' :of-
measures ; that we should avail ourselves of those oPrc;o0
tunities of inquiry which access to oftkinl infoortiten
can alone give ; and that being acquired, we shoal'', hiell
call the attention of Parliament to the measurestoe
we have to propose, and leave Parliament to detell ".15e
whether those measures are fonnded on just Cad 600-
principles or not, and whether they are likely to be
ducive to the permanent welfare of the country. "thee
Mr. MARK PHILLIPS said he knew not 'those
the country would be satisfied with the jokes, be ole
jokes good or bad, to which allusion had been ro
by the Right Hon. Baronet ; but he knew that he the
Mark Philip) could not treat lightly the distress r re•-
people. He was convinced that unless some One )7,01
lief was offered, and the channels of industry re.°P- the
they would have to deplore .the want of order it'atbe
coming winter—to witness scenes which all wi;lh.el3
addressed must desire to prevent. In the ,oing
which he had the honour of moving at the el" re.
of the Session, in that part of it which iv° her
tained by the House, thanks were given rated
Majesty for having called together the new l'ar,al, tie°,
at the earliest possible period to take into conil(Lehle
matters of deep importance to the country. Ontt,d that
of June the Right Hon. Bart. (Sir R. Peel) stA-0,
in his opinion Parliament ought to be dissolved I
600.
diately, and that after the dissolution it should be
moned with the least possible delay; and he said „ be to
the ground of the immense advantage it wool" refer
commercial men to know what would be done in "to
ence to the Corn-laws, as well as with reference
arse
change in the executive Government. Under theseoti
tilt
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cumatances he felt greatly disappointed at Flit' co
pursued by the Government in postpontheear
February the consideration of measures of relief.
how great were the financial difficulties of the cotliecicle
He did not, therefore, wish the Hon Baronet to L:at to
hastily, but he implored him not to allow Parlianitb ta,
be prorogued. Let him take a fortnight or s %ler&
consider what measures he would propose—but hel°'„,,,ing
him not to allow the winter to pass over without 1311;e1°
some remedy for the distress of the people. He
there was nothing unreasonable in such a stig9- veil/
He had had to present to the Government a merner'n °f
ing them to represent to her Majesty the neees'corn;
the House not separating before the subject of 0%00"
laws was taken into consideration. If the Govi horn
r
were not prepared to make any alteration in tiiiebeets'
laws, let them tell the people so at once.--k, 0003 e
and cries of " Hear, hear.") If he was t° ;00;
from what hatlifallen from certain Members of the G°lnet-bitig,%
—that it was their opinion that the Corn-laws had rd tied
do with the distresses, let the Government come u'r-,:sitorle
declare that such was their opinion —( Hear, hear.) or een;;
declaration of that kind would not require much time '—due,
deration.—( Hear, hear.) He was anxious nut to tresPa..;
the House, but he must repeat what he had stated hcf°,—the.
House, as the solemn conviction of his own mind. than- roviej°i
dutdry of the country was paralyzed by the present
laws.—( Hear, hear.) What he urged upon the "°,..artle
was that they might not be permitted to separate bef:.,,t of
mas, without taking into consideration the g. eat 9° 'O3 Vt:,
Corn-laws.—( Hear, hear.) The people had taker) °.Pr inter in
tion themselves ; they saw it was to th!'es „
and he thought it was the duty of errth represent the seGeie
their places, and urge upon the Right Hon. Baronet
rtainieg
sity of affording the House an opportunity of enkte )
great a question before the winter sot in.—(Belirialon.. pat
Mr. EW ART said the main paints of the
disco" el
net's speech was, that he was,not indifferent to the„areaold ..
the Right
the country. He . for. one believed
when he stated that; and his next point was that he t.n." bttn
given time. Nov he (Mr. Ewart) was prepared to g_IT:
time, but the question was, what time was to be "
givehe' 6°l'
e. month or. two, but we.
could undersiand the delay of
bt 5,
Baronet seemed determined to preserve. He thou,:
sioo
from it the most unfavourable conciuro be
There was a more dangerous
intento,4
cot agree :to the :prolonged silence which the Right tbc
people would, draw .
revolt
the Right Hen. Baronet kept his
was, that the contentions 5 t
• betweg" ee
dltagricultural interests would increa gigh.
manufacturing
epoap
rn(uyiHueadfhneseac
likelyemenrdusrheienangidrfa)nt
intrude upon the silence of the the
Honourable Baronet. He could not consider ,the tours
Minister of the Crown, when the country
Government were pursuing as consistent with the duty 066
a state. What had Mr. Huskisson said ? Why, that ditto it
of the country, if taken in time, might be remediedi;
allowed to continue they might never be overcome. „see
not one of those who thought that free-trade measurese rota'
tea for all the existing evils, but he thought, looking "'e/
rity, that those principles were like to benefit the cool les °
He thought if ever there was time when the prineP
a
free-trade should be carried out, in order to alleviate t orf
tress of the country, it was the present. He trusted t1:18 000.
would not wonder long' at the silence of the Big
• ir
Baronet.--( Hear. ) • f the.° d
Mr. WALKER bore testimony to the distress o
fast
them districts. He confessed that h- had never
witng
them in such a state. The property of the capitaltst:_d
wasting away by the depreciatioa of fixed capital.,.'; tl:
debts. In the borough he represented moree
whole rental of the borough had been : s,e,,trosel„,
was in so distreo4,
from the manufacturing interests. Filch was the
tu'itiete id
that borough, that the only two mills they
stop:Jed, and the operativ,s turned adrift. I"
.1 twit
been told that the Cern-laws were the cause 01
est 004
tresses. and they were c,n,inced that they were the r.. 0 st°,k,
of all their suffering. He did riot know what m 8 a' vai:l
intended to he brought forvia,d by the present
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but he trusted that they would think of the Sufter g '
- flare
manufacturing district. ht, lion. ,e
Sir JOHN' EASTHOPE would ask the Rig • crest •,
numbers, .that the winter would pass without that ye
whether he expected with augmented suffering 511:10,Inretcb 5,6 e
ness existing which would make it d fficult to
quiet of the country? He thought before Pedulne
up something ought to be done that would stay t" iotetro
rd
There could. be not doubt that the present Mintstet-!vo, :oleo
to do little or nothing with respect to the Cern'tings an
the declaration of several of its Members on the hus.pi they
&sewhere, that they intended to stand by the printO'DterY °IP
hi.d hitherto professed was recollected. Was the eo
rt. 9,10/1
to have mere expressions from the Right Hon. 53
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sorrow for the distresses of the country, but no remedy P"
preseeort
br,ooe,