The Sun.
London, England, 1840-07-15 00:00:00

Great surarise has been expressed in the City by those
Merchants who are interested in the settlement of the
. Danish claims at the declaration of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer on Tuesday night, that he would oppose to the
best of his power a motion that an address be presented to
her Majesty to beseech her to advance to the British sub-
jeets who sustained losses in 1807 by the seizure of their
ships and cargoes by the Danish Government, and to
'assure:her that the House will make good the same. The
parties whom the motion is designed to benefit are, as
has been already fully made apparent, what is called the
third class of claimants. The first two classes claimed
for book debts and goods asbcre, and this third class
claims for seizure of ships and cargoes. This is the
only distinction, and it is hard to see by what princi-
ple the third class can be put cn a worse footing than
the other two. Nevertheless, compensation was granted
to the other two classes, but denied to the third, although
it seems this class had suffered most severely from the re-
taliation of the Danish Government. The case of the
third class was brought under the consideration of the
House of Commons in May, 1838, when, after a discus:-
sion, an address to the Queen, praying an examination of
the Claims by Commissioners, was voted. Neverthelese,
having yet received no redress, their claims were again
brought before the House in June. 1839. when a second ad-
dress, pr. ying an adjudication of their claims, was voted by
a large majority. The claims were accordingly investi-
gated by Commissioners of the House, who reported
on the 12th of last May that they had completed
the examination of the losses sustained by the seizure
of- British ships and cargoes. In pursuing their in-
vestigation the Commissioners kept in view three
inquiries, the solution of which would be impor-
tant to their decision :-1. Why the claims pre-
ferred for the first time in 1833 hart not been submitted
on the publication of a notice in the Gazette of the 12th of
November, 1834? - 2. Whether any of the claims had
been assigned to the parties preferring them? 3. Whe-
ther the ships and cargoes had been insured, with the
reason for the neglect in cases of non-insurance. These
inquiries were thus answered :—lt was shown, in the first
Place, that circumstances which had caused additional time
to be granted to claimants for goods and book debts ashore
existed in the present instance, and that the notice of the
12th of November could not apply to their case, as it
made no mention of their description cf losses:, while the
parties had been given to understand that any prose-
cution of their claims would be useless. Indeed, the
publication: of another notice in July, 1838, suffi-
ciently proved that the Treasury did not consider the
former notice- sufficient. In the second place, the com-
missioners found that no assignment of claims had
taken place' and in the third, that where no insurance
had been effected, it was either not the custom of the
party to insure against any but sea risk, or the insurance,
owing to the events of the period, could not be effected ;
or, lastly, the insurance was void from the circumstance
that the vessel had been seized in port. These preliminaries
being settled, the Commissioners proceeded to the inves-
tigation, and collected such evidence as they considered
requisite. Certain cases were rejected for want of proof,
and the whole that they allowed were 116.
The parties whose claims were thus allowed by the
Commissioners after a rigorous examination, naturally
Supposed that the principle, that the class to which
they belonged were entitled to indemnification' was
already admitted by the two judgments of the House
in their favour, as it seemed a manifest absurdity to
appoint Commissioners to examine the minute and
exact amount of a claim while the principle of the
claim itself was denied. This point, therefore, that
the claimants for seizures of ships and cargoes were to be
admitted, was regarded as settled before the appointment
of the Commissioners, who had merely to regulate the
amounts and decide whether the individuals coming before
them belonged to the class or not. The case being thus
clearly made out, the principle as clearly established, and
the claims adjudicated, the astonishment at the declaration
on Tuesday by the Chancellor of the Exchequer may be
easily imagined. The claimants are not only disappointed
at such a declaration, but they cannot conceive by what
Possible principle any case at all can be made sgainst there.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer owes the public an ex-
planation to show, after a principle has
.once been admit-
ted by the House, how its merits are again to be brought
forward foe discussion ; and even supposing an impossibility,
supposing this should be satisfactorily explained, tile claim
ants will return to their original question, and esk the
principle by which a distinction is to be made between
10-ses incurred-at sea and losses incurred on shore.

IRELAND.

MR. O'CONNELL —MEiTING IN RATHMINES
Mr. O'CONNELL attended a mecting_in Rathmines yes-
terday, held to devise the best means of accomplishing
the repeal of the union."
D. Honcees, Esq , having been called to the chair,
Mr. O'CoNeeet, addressed the meeting at considerable
length, insisting that recent events had proved the total
hopelessness of expecting justice from a British Legisla-
ture. He said—ln 1834, when the repeal question came
before the British Parliament, there was only one English,
man to vote for us—all the scotch and English represenla•
Lives, says one, voted against us; but then Parliament en•
tered into a unanimous resolution, to which the King ac-
c-aded, declaring that justice should he done to land.—
( When I came back from Parliament I was thus
adviseJ :—" Oh, don't continue this repeal agitation, for
if you dp an excuse will be given for refusing
that justice the Parliament has promised to Ireland."
Well, then, I m,:de the experiment. The five years are
over, and they have not done any one thing towards re-
deeming the pledge—the solemn pledge given by the
King, Lords, and Commons—and all this solemn pledge
turns out now to be a base lie.—( lear, hear.) What,
then, ant I to do, but to appeal to the people of Ireland?
To-morrow there will be a meeting of the association,
and I will strike out every word but " repeal."—( Im-
mense and repeated cheering.) I will nail my colours to
the mast—(Great cheers)— I have no other word but, Re-
peal.—( Great cheers.) Every man who sends a shilling
to Mr. Ray shall be enrolled as a repealer. If I get
three millions of repealers—(Cheers)—oh, I will have
millions—(Cheers)—for it is not the men alone, but God
bless them, the women of Ireland that will join us—the
virtuous women, who are to be boasted of more than any
women of the earth.—(Cheers.) The moment I have
three millions of repeaters enrolled, that moment the
Union is repealed ; they will be ten times more than car-
ried emancipation ; but emancipation was for the benefit
of the Catholics, whilst repeal is for the good of Irish-
men of all parties.—(Loud and continued cheering.) I
gm old enough to resin the duties of a Parliamentary
life, and prepare for that great change which is to come
%upon me ; but ray heart never grows old—( Loud cheers)
~.—ond my arm is strong and vigorous on behalf of my suf-
fe.'ing countrymen.—(Cheers.) I think Ireland wants
me. —( Hear, hear, and continued cheering)—there is a
coast airaey against her rights; the other day there were
72,0011 petitioners to take away the paltry grant for May-
nooth College—(Cries of " Shame," and "We don't
care")—.let them, I say ;do not we pay them a million a
year to tho Protestant Chtuch ? They give 9.0001. a year
to Mayno.7th for 7,000,000 Catholics, and we. pay
I,ooomo/. a year for 800,000 Protestants ; but a nation
like Ireland „can carry her pcint by keeping in Ike light.
I will not encourage any breach of the law. I aleays
preached agaiustary breach of the law. Mr. Pigot's At t shows
Ghat the deluded members of Ribbon Societies cannot be
safe; say society having secret meetings, signs, or pass-
words, is illegal, and liable to severe punishment— ( Hear,
hear)—but they are ready to be led to any purposes of
evickedneas. I want open combination—in the open day.
--( Hear, bear.) One topic more. If you don't join
in rallying for Ireland, will England stop—will Lord
Stanley step his aggression ? He has declared that he f
will begin over again next Session. No, he won't stop i
you lie quiet ; he will crush you, walk upon you, and take
:from you the bencAts of reform and emancipation. lam
glad of the first exhibition for repeal; all our energies
shall be centered in getting back the Irish Parliament
(Immense cheering.) England, sooner or later, must be
involved in a war. She is threatened by Russia—half
threatened by France—her colonies are disaffected—her
yopulatian irritated—in large towns her citizens are starv-
ing. In her distress if she wants a friend she has one in
Xreland, if she does us justice and gives us the repeal—that
moment she becomes triumphant.—(uHar hear.)

ticI4TIONAL ASSOCIATION—THIS DAY.
Theres was a numerous meeting of this body held at the
Corn Exc.‘"an
ge. Mr. John Martin presided. At two
o'clock Mr. O'Connell entered the room, and was warmly
applauded. Artasngst the correspondence read was the
letter of the Hon. .Nir. french, which elicited the warm
applause of the meeting. A very considerable number of
members was Idmitted—the operative bakers of Dublin
subscribing 101. ; their letter Wes inserted on the minutes,
and thanks passed to them.
Mr. O'CoNNELL then addressed the meeting. He
said, the alternative held out when the sociey was formed
had ceased to exist, and it should in future
er
be called what
at really was, a Repeal Association.—(Ches ) Some
people were disposed to congratulate themselves on the
failure of Stanley's Bill ; of course it was of importance
that that attack upon the rights of the people should be
defeated ; but what better situation were they in now than
they were at the time the association was formed? In
the House of Commons fanaticism against the Catholics
Was fast increasing. Look, for example, to the treat-
ment tf the Catholics of Canada in the disposal of the
Clergy reserves. He alluded to these circumstances to
show the entire hopelessness of expecting anything from
the British Parliament. It was not alone justice they
would not give ; but Lord Stanley was able to obtain
majorities to destroy existing rights, and to forge
exclnew
fetters for Ireland.—(Cheers.) Upon their own .-
tiops, then, they were driven to rely ; the repeal of the
Union was their only remedy.—(Cheers.) His object
now was to announce to Ireland that their only means of
defeating Stanley's attack upon their liberties was by
showing him that they should have a Parliament of their
"n.—(Cheer?.) Mr. O'Connell concluded by moving
that the word "justice" should be struck out from the title
f the association, and that it should stend " The Loyal
National Association for Repeal 01 the Union."
Mr. CLEMENTS seconded the motior, which passed, and
the meeting saparated.