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Raja, and had stated that the course which had been pur-
sued towards him had met with the unanimous approbation
of all the Governments of India. In that he had been
followed by Mr. Weeding and Mr. Fielden, the latter of
whom had thought it necessary to vindicate the charac-
ters of all those implicated in the transaction. Why
the Hon. Proprietor had pursued such a course, he was
at a loss to imagine. The lion. Gentleman had stated
that the Governor-General and Mr. Elphinstone had been
charged with wilful and corrupt perjury—
Mr. WEnDnic.—As encouraging perjury.

Mr. LEWIS had made no such charge. He should
have been sorry to have made any such ridiculous charge
—(Hear)----which owed its origin entirely to the prolific
imagination of the Learned Proprietor. The Hon.
Director, Mr. Warden, had begun by stating his con-
viction of the Raja's guilt ; and, in vindication of that
opinion, had stated that the Raja, being a Mahratta,
must necessarily be deceitful. He had then proceeded
to the vindication of the Bombay Government ; but even
he felt no much the oppressive proceedings of the Com-
mission, that he gave it up, and said the Bombay Go-
vernment ought not to have appointed it,— (Hear,
hear.) None of them had dared to grapple with
the evidence, and he put it to the Court whether policy
and expediency, as well as justice, did not demand that
they should act towards the native Princes, who were de-
pendent upon them, with kindness and consideration?
It was the duty of every strong State in alliance with a
weaker one to support the weaker one in all its just
claims and rights, and never to seek for an opportunity
of oppressing it. Such a course was dictated not only
by justice but by policy and expediency, and such were
the maxims which ought to be adopted by the Court of
Directors. Wny had not the Governor of Goa been ap-
plied to ? The Bombay Goverement stated they did
not think it necessary, and that showed they thought
but little of the intrigue.—(Cheers.) The Hon. Director
Mr. Sheppard, had said that no precedent could destroy
the simple principles of justice. On that ground he was
content to leave the present question. If the Hon. Pro-
prietor
admitted that the simple principles of justica
had been violated in this case, then it was
his duty to use his influence with his col-
leagues to sanction the present motion. Sir
Robert Campbell had rested his opinion of the
Raja's guilt on a letter from a missionary, who stated
that at Goa he had seen certain persons on horseback,
who stated that the horses were presents from the Raja
of Sattara, on condition that he should be assisted in ex-
pelling the English. Now would they condemn any man
On such hearsay testimony as that ?—and the greater part
of the evidence against the Raja was hearsay. A most
unjustifiable course had been pursued ; for the witnesses
had been asked to testify what they knew of their own
knowledge and what they heard. The testimony of Gene-
ral Briggs had been alluded to in support of the charges
against the Raja's character. Fortunately General Briggs
had been present, and had, in common with every other
Resident at Sattara, borne testimony in favour of
the character of the Raja. They had talked'
of consistency, but those were the consistent persons who
throughout maintained the Raja's innocence, and among
those must be numbered the worthy and exemplary
members of the Court of Directors, Mr. Tucker, Mr.
Sheppard, Mr. J. Forbes, and Mr. Cotton.—(Loud
cheers.) These gentleman had all along fearlessly ex-
pressed their dissent from the conduct pursued by the
Directors. It had been thought necessary to vin-
dicate the character of Sir James Carnac. He
had guarded himself against casting any imputation
on the character of any man during the whole course
of the proceedings, It had been said that the Raja had
violated the treaty of 1819 by holding any sort of com-
munication with any person excepting through the Resi-
dent. Now, looking to the relative position of the
parties, the object of the treaty was merely
to give the Resident such power as would en-
able him to discover any correspondence which
might be carried on injurious to the British inte-
rests. It was never intended to prevent all intercourse,
and if it were to be construed literally, he should say it
was rather a snare laid by the British Government to
entrap the Raja and to get possession of his territories.—
(Cheers.) Our violation of the treaty in the affair of
the Jagheerdars had been flagrant and unjustifiable. The
Court itself had admitted that fact by directing the res-
toration of one of the Jagheers to the Raja. The evi-
dence on which the Bombay Government had acted was
full of discrepancies, as had been pointed out by the Go-
vernor-General. It was admitted that Sir James Carnac
had required from the Raja an admission of his guilt,
which the Raja had refused to give. In his very first
interview, as recorded at page 299 of the papers, the
Raja asserted that he would do anything except signing
or admitting that he had been an enemy to the British
Government, but that he would never sign a do-
cumment containing such a statement.—(Hear, hear.)
The three charges were that he had tampered with the
SepoYs—that he had parried on a treasonous correspond-
ence with the Raja Of Nagpore, and with the Portuguese
Governor at Goa7-and Sir James Carnac himself ad-
mitted that he called upon the Raja, through what he
was pleased to term a mild preamble "—(Cheers and
laughter)—to confess himself guilty on those three
charges.—(Hear, hear.) It was for his refusal to sign
that confession the Raja was seized at midnight and
hurried away a prisoner to Benares.—(Hear, hear.) It
had been said that this was not in evidence, but in fact
it was too notorious to require evidence.—(Hear, hear.)
On a former occasion Sir Charles Forbes read a
letter from an officer who was present on the occasion,
which put the matter out of all doubt. The letter was as
follows :

" One company of his Majesty's 41st regiment, two
companies of the 21st regiment of Native Infantry, and
three companies of the 25th Native Infantry, being or-
dered to march to Sattara, at twenty-four hours' notice,
we left Poona. on the 31st of August, and arrived in
Sattara on the 4th of September. We received orders
to meet the following morning on the parade, at two
o'clock. The grenadiers of the 25th regiment, with the
light company and some artillery, were ordered to march
to the palace and take the Rajah, whilst the 21st compa-
nies and the Bth regiment went to the Adawlut and Balla
Sahib's house, to take him and look after his cavalry,
.who were fully expected to show fight ; but nothing oc-
curred, nor could he be found. Balla Sahib is comman-
der of the Raja's force. We marched into the palace,
and formed into line before the doors, and men with lan-
terns were seen running about in every direction—it
being scarcely light—to prevent the Raja attempting his
escape, whilst Colonel Ovans, the Resident, and another
officer, went into the palace to find the Raja, accompa-
nied by the present Raja Appa Sahib, who led them to
his brother's bed-room and showed them where he was I
The same day he was publicly proclaimed. There was
the poor little Raja fast asleep when the Colonel found
him. He immediately came out in his sleeping-drawers
and a piece of cloth thrown over his shoulders ; he made
no resistance. A palanquin was called, in which he was
placed, as well as his Commander-in-Chief Balla Sahib,
who was found in another room. Had 4 single shot
been fired, all his property would have fallen prize money
to us, and he had lots of it ; large chests arranged all
along, full of money, and an immense number of gold
and silver dishes ; but he was too prudent. We marched
with them to a place six miles from Sattara, called
Neembgaom, where we are at present, with a strict
guard over them ; and shall remain until orders come
from the Governor-General where we are to remove
them."

He thought that he had now satisfied the Court of the
truth and propriety of every allegation in the resolution
which he had had the honour of moving, and of the
justice of acceding to the recommendation which it con-
veyed. The Hon. and Learned Member concluded
amidst loud and repeated applause.
Mr. TUCKER, in explanation, begged leave to tvthat
what he had said had been pushed by an Hon, Proprietor
further than he had intended. What he had said was,
that from all the notions he could form qt evidence,
giving his sentence as a sworn judge,
~'e "'must declare
that there was no evidence upon
7,iich the Mtja of Sat-
tara ought to have been d
'..:frived of his throne, bereft
p
of everything he
- c'ssP:,sed, and transported to a distant
country.—(Cheer- -
The quest'
(that, oe

was then put on the original motion
. Mr. Lewis), and upon the show of hands the
...aners were—
For the motion lO
Against it 27
Majority against the resolution —l7
The amendment moved by the Hon. Chairman on the
first. day of this discussion was then put as a substantive
motion; whereupon
Mr. SALomoss moved the amendment which we have
given above.
Mr. NORRIS seconded the amendment. He said
after a perusal of all the papers laid before the. Court,
he was convinced that the facts did not justify the deno-
sition of the Raja and the forfeiture of his private pro-
perty. If the old hash of a resolution was• 'pssed tb
this effect,that the Court of Proprietor:B watlld titlt
fere with their . responsible EN'Wttitt, they would
have the whole eetnitry against them, and to
all eternitsyChters and laughter)—for every man,
woman) iihd child knew that no man ought tb be en.;
damned without a trial.—(Hear, hean) t ith§, very
well to say that the case had been. fitittlly deW4.-
thought Judge Jeffries w4h 7eith* fitnions that
were final as far tt•S tetVetAVki hig Victims.--(Hear, hear.)
But they wit's hot final before the bar of public opinion,
and Vettainly not before a still higher tribunal.
Mr. G. TnomrsoN was happy that the diSetts'sion
had taken place, and had been earriect tb so
great length, even though the former hietioti,6d been
lost.—(Hear, hear.) The sUbstaittiVh ifititlnll Which
was now before the Chair trilled uh the Court to pro-
nounce it inexpedient tb interfere with the Executive in
relation to the affairs of the Raja of Sattara. It had
been elrAtly demonstrated in that Court that the Raja
was an innocent man.—(Cheers.) The character tit` the
Servants of the East India Company-, chit pia military,
was greatly enhanced in that discussion ; but when the
Court came to a final division on the question it would
be seen how many gentlemen on the other side of the
bar had voted for a refusal of justice.—(Hear, ham%)
Mr. Tucker, a venerable and high-minded untn.=.4Cheers)
—had said that a judicial functionary ought to be with-
out passion and without feelings, and there could be no
doubt that in that maxim he stated the characteris:
tics of his own conduct in discharging justly and
impartially his duties.—(Cheers.) That Hon. Director
had set forth in propositions, which he threw over to the
outer side of the bar, that the Raja had been depoSed
without any sufficient grounds.—(Cheers.) He would
ask them, in the langaage of Mr. Tucker, whether, if
the Raja were now in possession of the throne, they
would, after the evidence which was now before them,
voto for, his - deposition ?—(Tremendous cheering.)'
la they not say that the only stain was upon
those who. were the Raja's enemies, or the dupes
of ".eini--)7?—(Repeated cheering . and applause.)
The testinieny of General Lodwick, who was near
Four .years a Resident at the Court of • the Raja
-,tine testimony;_ in fact, of all the Residents, without
exception, was conclusive in proof of the Raja'a in-no;
conger--(Cheers.) But it was said that-allithose:gtntle, •
men were cajoled and. deluded-by the Raja. It was said,
thut there could be no doubt -of their delitsioni- heimutqc

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Mr. Anderson said that they were cajoled.— (CheerS=and
laughter.)
iqr. WARDEN said that thc, Residents therrEelve3 had
furnished the evidence that they were cajoled.
Mr. THOMPSON proceeded--If anything could redeem
the Court of Directors from disgrace and infamy-, It Was
the speech delivered from within the bar durinc, these
discussions by the .Hon. and Gallant Director °Major,.
General Robertson.—(Great cheering.)
Sir J. L. LUSHINGTON said he could not sit there to
hear anyman accuse the Court, of which he had the
honour to be a member, of disgrace and infamy.—
(Cheers, and very general interruption.)
Mr. FIELDER was 'quite certain that the Hon. Pro-
prietor (Mr. Thompson) would not hesitate to retract
the language which had been so very properly com-
plained of.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. THOMPSON had said nothing disrespectful, nothing
irregular, nothing that he could not explain, and nothing
that he felt himself called upon to retract. The Direc-
tors had refused to take even the first steps towards
doing justice.—(Cheers.) If there were gentlemen upon
whom unmerited reproach of disgrace and infamy were
cast he would prefer to be one of them to sit
amongst those who cast imputations of the highest guilt
and dishonour upon an untried man, and refused
to hear him in his defence.—(Cheers,) The charge of
injustice was not made by him ; it was made by an Hon.
Member of their own body, who pulled the keystone out
of the arch of falsehood and perjury, and laid the whole
fabric at their feet.—(Cheers.) He spoke now of Mr.
Sheppard, an Hon. Director, who declared that the
Raja was innocent. The Hon. Proprietor then referred
to the statements of Mr. Norris, General Sykes, and
Captain Cogan, who all concurred in believing the Raja
absolutely innocent of any designs against the English
.Government. The Raja was offered the perpetual poS-
session of his throne, the enjoyment of his treasures, and
the favour of the British Government, if he
would only acknowledge that he had violated
the treaty, and had acted with dish on o ur, •
He (Mr. Thompson) could very well understand how it
happened that Sir James Carnac offered such a doct.i-
ment for the Raja's signature. In fact, he did notlnoiv
the man. He thought that the Hindoo Prince would
not hesitate to confess himself guilty for the sake of pre-
serving his possessions. But the Governor was mis-
taken. The Raja gave up everything rather then vom-
promise his own reputation.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr.
Thompson) found in an old book which had come acci-
dentally into his hands, a case which was exactly
parallel to that of the unfortunate Raja, and which
showed in what manner and with what cleverness,
Indian ministers and agents were able to impose upon
and betray those who placed trust in them. The' book
which he held in, his hand was entitled " A view of the
Agricultural, Commercial, and Financial Interests of
the island of Ceylon." The passage which he' was
about to read, referred to the time when the Colony was
in the hands of the Dutch. The author states :
" However reluctant the different British collectors may
be to admit the -assertion, I can nevertheless state with
confidence that I have met with very few indeed who
were not strongly influenced in their public conduct by the
native head-men that were immediately under their com-
mand, and nearest to their persons. Collectors, and even
Governors of the most distinguished talents, have been
under that influence. Governor Vander Graaff, who was
represented by all to have been a superior character
among those who have ruled Ceylon, was most grossly
deceived by his first Modilear, Abesinga. This man was
carrying on a false correspondence between the Governor
and Pelime Talao, first Adigar of Candy, in whose
name Abesinga was fabricating letters addressed
to the Governor.—(Hear, hear, hear.) During this
correspondence on matters of great weight which were
naturally never brought to a conclusion, many presents
were interchanged on both sides. Those from the Go-
vernor were always, as customary, the most costly.
When the expectations of Mr. Vander Graaff were raised
to the highest, waiting the conclusion of a very favour.
able treaty, Abesinga happened to die, and to the great
surprise and mortification of the GoVernor, the whole of
his correspondence with the Candian Minister was found
in Abesinga's desk, and the presents in his chest.—
(Cheers and laughter.) He (Mr. T.) would not support
any resolution which fell short of doing the Raja com-
plete and entire justice—(Cheers)---and he concluded by
moving an amendment, to the effect—

" That, in the opinion of this Court, his Highness the
Ex-Raja of Sattara is innocent of the charges brought
against him, of having entertained treasonable designs
against the British Government, or of otherwise inten-
tionally violating the Treaty of September 25th, 1819 :
And that, thereore, his Highness the ex-Raja of Sat-
tara, according to the principles of British law, founded
upon immutable justice, and the inalienable right of
prince or peasant, is entitled to an entire restitution of all
his rights, and ample reparation for all his wrongs."---
(Cheers.)
Mr. POYNDER then proposed an additional amendment
which, after some discussion, the Chairman refused to en-
tertain.

The question having been taken upon Mr. Salomon's
amendment, the negative w•as carried by a majority of
29 to 12.

The CHAIRMAN then took the show of hands upon his
own resolutions, which, without counting the numbers,
he declared to be carried.

A somewhat angry discussion, which was not very
well understood by the Reporters, then ensued, in the
course of which

Mr. G. THOMPSON said that he had received the dis-
tinct promise of the Chairman that his amendment should
be put after the others were disposed of.—(Hear, hear.)
He should, however, content himself by putting in a
notice of a motion for the renewal of the discussion upon
the next Court day.—(Cheers.)

RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCES IN INDIA.

In answer to questions from Mr. PCIYNDER,
The CHAIRMAN stated that measures had been taken
to carry into effect the resolutions of the Court for dis-
continuing the practice of employing British soldiers at
Hindoo religious festivals.
The Court then adjourned at a Quarter to Seven
o'Clock.

BRAINTREE CHURCH-RATES.
PROCEEDINGS ON MONITION.
On Thursday a vestry meeting of the parishioners of
Braintree was held, pursuant to a notice, in accordance
with a monition from the Ecclesiastical Court of the
Bishop of London, commanding them to make a rate for
the repairs of the church, and defraying the necessary
expenses of the decent celebration of divine service.
The meeting was numerously attended.

The Itev.—B, &math the Vicar, took the chair.
VtllitYs the Churchwarden, after reading the
monition) proposed that a rate of 2s. in the pound be
made, in obedience to the Monition.
" • Mr. COURTATILD moved, as an amendment—" That
an compulsory payments for the support of the religibus
services of any sect or people, appear to the majority of
this vestry to be .tin Sanctioned by any portion of the New
Testa/nein Scriptures, and altogether opposed to, and
subversive of, the pure and spiritual character of the .re-
ligion of Christ. But that, for any one religious sect
•to compel others, which disapprove their forms of wor-
ship, or system of Church government, or which dissent
from their religious principles and creed, to nevertheless
submit to, support, and extend them; appears to this
Vestry, to be a yet more obvious invasion of religious
freedom, and violation of the rights of conscience ;
also, it appears to be a gross injustice to Dissenters as
citizens, to compel them to pay for the religious services
of others, in which they have no part, while they build
their own chapels, support their own ministers, and de-
fray the charges of their own worship. That compul-
sory Church-rates, awl more especially such rates upon
Dissenters, thus appearing to be as a tax unjust, and as
an ecclesiastical imposition adverse to religious liberty,
and contrary to the spirit of Christianity, this Vestry
feels bound, by the highest obligations of social justice
and of religious principle,' to refuse to make a rate, and
does refuse accoi &ugly."

The amendment .Has carried by a large majority.
Mr. VELLY—I propose, and I am now addressing
myself to, those who are willing to obey the Monition,
that we make,a rate, of 2s. in the pound.
Mr. CouirrAuLD said the Churchwardens had taken a
course which appeared wholly irregular ; this was a
meeting; of rate-payers, and ,he apprehended nothing
,could be, done but by the act of the majority., He Would,
therefore, submit to them as a substantive motion, that
the amendment having been carriedin opposition to the
proposed rate, no rate had been made by that Vestry
meeting.
Mr. VELEY—We shall never make it matter of
thechargefi
that it has been made by this meeting—it is
measure pointed out by the judgment.
Mr. CoURTAULD said, then he, would content himself
with protesting against the irregular manner in which
the Churchwardens had attempted to make a rate after
it had been denied by the majority ; and he protested
also against the rate attempted to be made.
The rate of 2s. in the pound was then made by the
Churchwardens, and signed by them and the Vicar, and
several tif the parishioners.
Mr: Oiltiftatild's protest was entered on the minute-
took ; and thanks having been voted to the Chairman the
meeting separated.
The proceedings were •
conducted in a very orderly and
peaceful nllifier, •

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rane-road,
as beenernion in thedsey,on ryct
ttheeti
Thompson, iiv
of D]Tes~rs.
Donkin for upwards of 20 gears: The deceased was not ob-
served to leaVe the fietor.ylit.thb usual holtr on Friday, but on
Stqltikl4 at, trelohk, Wai totind hailer to
sOcllicied part a it, when the wactiman Went rounu at rtir'g
o'clock. He., was quite dead. On the beadle searching ht
pocket, a most extraordinary packet was found. It wag
addressed. in pencils 46 To, the Viole anti ii,ritt4l
over in alt I?; copy or It'—
" Rrilly 1 111:1;e "served Mesrs. H. Donkin and Co.
failltully since Aurrost 1890 I bear no ill will to ar- roan
- •
God preserve my wife and unprotected children, and God ha •e
mercy on my soul. James Thompson. The Rev. Mr. Gib-
son, of Bermondsey Old Church, tefused to baptise my son
Alfred, butlliepe come good man will." At another part
of the paper wr,. " Success to Brunell." "To Mr. D.
Hawes, . Esq., M.P. You are a liberal man; if you will take
the duty off tobacco, you will much oblige me. Jas. Thomp-
son." In another place was written, '°Ha, ha; Money is
power, and power is tyranny. The engine is off." The Co-
roner having referred to the nature of the case, the jury, with-
out hesitation, returned a verdict of " Temporary lus;nity,"
FREEHOLDERS' INDEMNIT* FUND. The
-amount:: subscribed to this day is five hundred and seventy-five
pounds.—Kerry Examiner.

The late heavy rains have been very detrimental
to the hay harvest in this quarter ; but we are glad to
observe that tbe• wheat and barley crops do not yet
seetri,to hatift,sestained much injury. •These crops seem tp
hav'estotidurictmonly well ap against the high winds ang
,•dieneltinerfatAi. • I)ry • and Warm weather is, however,
'much ivantiid... Of the-hops. we hear no general coat:
plaint; ianct'therefere,. it may be inferred they are in' a
(7hro*l6 • "

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