The Sun.
London, England, 1812-04-14 00:00:00

siiert to nristol and Vverpooi, what he had said
was, that in places of such extended
.popAlation,
it was for the benefit of military discipline that the
soldiers should be kept diStind from the peo-
ple.—But the 1-1-anourable Gentleman hrd ascribed
every evil to the Government, and not to the policy
of Boonaparte. On this he should only_ observe,
'that if I.'inonaparte was to be. opposed at all, he
.should be opposed not by moderation, but by firin-
neSs. As to the scarcity, he Could state that nearly
eight millions worth isif grain had been last year im-
ported from the Continent. The Orders hi Council
did not prevent this,
,end if there was no propnr-
tionate gnantity in the present it was owing to
some other cause, perhaps to the failure of- cropi on
the Continent. It was not owing-to the o:ders to
Council.

Mr. WHITBREAD said (in explanation)* that the
manufaEturers, who by petitions called npoir the
House to do what he hoped they would do, cot-
- roborated his Opinion, and he knew that there 'Were
others on the way from the large clothing districts;
besides this bad not happened its Mr.. Pitt's time.
But it had been said that the Contincnt at Europe
'had not produced so great a crop' as usual, This"
might have been the case; but would any one ,say,
that if the intercourse bad been free, we should, not -
have derived greater assistance ?
Mr. STEPHEN expressed his surprise that the
Hon. GentleMan' shook! have uttered' sentiments
which could have no other effeel shan to turn the
current-of public dete,tarion of the enemy towards
the Government, and coesequently to incline the
people to disaffetiion, by making)hem believe that
toelsent alOne were imputable, all thoSe privations to
which they were necessarily reduced front the pre-
sent state of things. He agreed with the Hreneur7
able Gentleman, that it' was the undoubted privilege
of an Eriglishnian to be allowed to speak out ; but
in speaking out, thosewho 'attempted to poison
the public mind, would do well to_ teflett on the
consequences Which anisht ensue at such a time, 4nd
in such circumstancesas those under's% Welt t heconntrY
is placed.
.11oriotirable. and Learned -Gentle-
man adverted to a printed paper; sigoed " A Staf-
fordshire Potter," which in the osesetehe contended,
declared a falsehood, for it set forward with lying
—" Before Buonparte issued his decrees, oar trade
was not diminished.l' The fad was directly the
reverse, as had been proved at the bar of the House,
for the Export Trade of Great• Britain was not only
not diminished, but had greatly increased. Vegt num-
bers of ships that had cleared out front the Cus-
tom Hou:e were. obliged to return; the ports of
the Continent being shut against them, and the
owners were obliged to petition to re-land their
cargoes, and warehouse theM. To state such
falsehdods as the whole of the paper to which he has
just alluded disclosed, was a most wicked and
mischievous aft—the authors of such papers could
not have British spirits within their bosoms, for
their conduct was evidently the result of French
spirit, French artifice, and French pradices.. The
attempt to sow disaffeaion was the very height of
infamy, and was unparalleled in the history'of the
baseness and profligacy of mankind. For ,s
could be more Airefligate, when the state of the
manufacturers
_was admitted to be of the most dis-
tressing kind—when the high price of provisions
added to that distress, and when the trade of the
country was suffering privations at once irk Some
and, ruinous, than to find individuals ready !C-
-arouse the indignation of the lower classesi of the
community, and to direct that indignation against
the Governmentas the abettors of their misery, and
as the means ,of goading their distresses by cdlling
out the military at the expellee of the people's blood?
Could there be arts more wicked than papers,of this
nature disclosed ? It Gentlemen would reason on
the case fstrly, they would see, that, to the Orders
-in, Council were not to be placed those 'distresses
which the Hon. Gentleman was now pleased- to-
place. They could see, that at.the time of origi-.
oaring the' Orders its Council, the exports
,were
higher than before. The exports to. America,-in
creased considerably rffterwards, more than two '
or three millions. The Honourable Gen, le'nrrn,
therefore, by introducing the litt:e episodes to
his'drama of distress, would nor gain Much applause.
He was fond of predictions. He had predicted that
the continusmce, of the war would place the coon-_.
try without the pale of security. How tree-his
prophecies were, events had shewn. Fur
future, he (Mr. S.) would advise the Honourable-
Gentleman to offer his services to tire _Editor 'of
Moore's Almanack, tOpredi6t the falling of snow it)
winter, or a thunder-Storm in the dog-days, and now
and then, by good fortune, he might be right.—
But if he continued his war predictions, he would •
most assuredly be, as he always had. been, 211 in the
wrong ! and therefore must be content with the re-
potation of an unfortunate prophet, because history
and fad did nut bear him out in his wonderrulipre-
dittions. The Hon, Gentleman had dire'Aly, attri-
buted to his Right Hon. Friend all those_qualities
which'in the Prime Minister of a great country
were so eminently requisite—a happy talent at de-
bating—a thirst for otlice—but that no Gentleman
cm his (Mr. W.'s) side of t!:e House would change
with 'hint.. The Hon.'and Learned Gentlenein be-
lieved that in respect to these assertions-he was sin-
cere, for ii his Right Hon. litiencl was ss fornaida-.
ble in debate,•Gentletnen on the opposite side Might
well be afraid 'to change' places with him. The
country were, indeed, well satisfied, feu a more for.
tunate necessity never arese in the present arduous
crisis• of her fare, than to call for the services of his
Right Hon. Friend. - lie did not, like the lion. Gen-
tleman's. friends, withhold his services ; but when
the public voice was loud in calling, he accej,ted
office, and did not, like the Talents, stand aloof. He
was raised deservedly to that state of pre-eminence
to which no man' was ever before called at such a
crisis, and which he fills with honour to himself,
and with advantage to tire country. - With re-
sources such as the country now trotisessed, heshoped
it would be long before that disastrous event arrived,
which* the Hon. Gentleman seemed to exteet, viz.
making peace with France.

Mr.P.ONONBY arced -with ate Hoii. Gentleman,
that 'it was a happy elevation for some of the people
when the Right Honourable Gentletnan succeeded
to office, for if that. event hid not occurred, the
Hon. and Learned Gentleman would not have filled
the office which lie now hulcis With respelit to
what had fallen from his Hon. Friend (Mr. Whit-