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TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
Sir,—l could hardly expect that from a total stranger,
as I was to you, till last week, you should hai'e done
such honour to the long lefters of mine, which you pub-
lished in your_ papers of Friday the 27th, and Nonday
the 30[1) ult.l havo had more than twenty
dons for tho,e pApeis, as thty are not to be got at
your office.

- You are at perfect liberty, if you think fit, to re-
publish them in any way you please. I only reserve the
right 'of these, and anything I may send you, forming
parr of the publication I intend bringing out of the
:Life of John Hoene Tooke, as my notes on the
passing events Of the day, to which the conduct
or opinions of my great master may be applicable.
I am not a little proud, as you may . imagine,
to see the argument I brought forward at the State
trials at Maidstone, forty years ago, adopted and referred
to in so able, honest, and determined a manner, by my.
Learned Friend, Sir Frederick Pollock, in the trials
now so lamentably going'on at Monmouth, and in which
he and Mr. Kelly are conferring such honour on our
noble profession. .0 ! si sic oinnes !

I take this opportunity of putting the public in pos-
session of what really did pass in my hearing, upon
Mr. Tooke's being accommodated with a chair. He
had answered his Surgeon, and ever after steady friend,
Mr. Cline, who had asked in the morning before the
trial began when would be' the best time to have•a
chance of hearing Mr. Tooke speak ?-." When the
Court opens ; for the first foolish .word that my old ac-
quaintance Chief Justice Eyre utters, he or I shall remain
master of that Court.' Many things passed there, that
do not appear in the State Trials. Accordingly, when
Mr. Tooke said, " My Lord, I demand to sit near my
Counsel," the Chief JUstice
,puffed -and blew, as was
his manner ; and after consulting with the other Judges,
1:e was beginning, " Mr. Tooke, if you ask the indul-
gence of a chnir," Mr. Tooke interrupted him, " My
Lord, ypu don't sit there to grant, indulgences, nor
will I accept . any indulgence at your hands. I de-
mand it .as my right,, and if your -Lordship doubts
it, I am prepared. to. argue it as a point of law,"
and immediately pUlled a bundle of papers out of
his pocket, threw them down on the bar, and assumed
the attitude of a lion in debate.

It was quite plain that if the matter had not been
speedily-agreed to, and a chair .placed for him close at
the back of Mr. Erskine, the Court would have become a
scene of thunder and lightning, ',us-it was now and then
afterwards.

This scene gave rise to a speech of Edmund Burke's,
who was upon the Bench at the moment, and after-
wards, upon being asked what be had seen, said" he
had seen,a unique-Horne, who had turned the tables
upon the old 'notion of the lion and the unicorn, and
was driving the Judges and Court before him all about
the town:'.- • "
A DISCIPLE OF JOHN„IIORNE TOOKE.

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NEWPORT, JAN 3.

(EXTRACT OF A PRIVATE LETTER.)
SlR,—li may, be gratifying to you to know the state
of feeling in Newport just at this time. Wednesday
evening and. yesterday; when the news arrived from
Monmouth that Mr. Frost was likely to be acqu:t:ed,
the common people and many of the middle classes
were all exultation and joy. ''Numerous groups were
collected in various parts of the town; Rumour, with
htr thousand voices, had circulated the report that
Mr. F. was at liberty yesterday. and was about to
come house last evening by the Hero coach; About
9 o'clock the bridge was crowded -with spectators, an-
. ticipating the arrival o: the coach, and when it ap-
peared in sight they cheered •aloed, anderied out," Frost
for ever," at the top of their Voices. •
Most of the poor people and many of the middle class
express their delight at the probability- of Mr. Fro St's
release, and they indicate the real satisfaction which
they feel, even at the bare possibility of " a consum-
mation so devoutly wished," by their countenances and
gestures ; while, on the other band; the enemies of Mr.
Frost, not only exhibit the bitterness of their feelings, on
the index of the mind, but, with all the ferocity of savages,
indulge in (hopeless) expiessed-wiAies and desires, • that
would be disgraceful to the most heathenish and -
brutalized of the human race. * * Church-.
going people, and some of them have assumed the
name of " Teachers in Israel," of the mild and gentle
brother-loving doctrines of Christianity. Oh, how would,
the great founder of Christianity spurn such preacher
of his doctrines from his pr&ence 1 How dishonoured
is he and his doctrines by such impious pretenders to 1,
piety and BENEvouNcEI •

I urn„ Sir, your's truly;

ETA.

{We havo thought' it prudent to ninit„.a passage,
earnestly hoping that it may be an exaggerated ex-
pression of the real.state of feeling, and .beingunvtilling
to add to the exr.speration.—En. Sun]

CORN-LAW, EDUCATION, AND
THE CLERGY.

(From the Speech of the Rev. Mr. Bayley; at Sheffield.)
When one-half of the poor man's loaf was gone, and
the other iii jeopardy, every Friend of his country and
its commercial interests, should become so far public as
was necessary to procure the removal of the injurious
Corn-law, to which he considered the mercantile classes
kiatly attributed the bulk of their present grievances.
The Corn-law question was mainly and virtually one be-
tween the mercantile classes with .the labouring poor,
and the general body of the landowners, the bulk 'Of
whom it must be admitted belonged to the aristocratic
class. It was no wonder that the feelings of the lower,
classes .were hostile to the aristocracy : for, while it was
found that the pension list contained its thousands, which
for the 'mist part were only added to the superfluities
of the arie:ocratic class, the people had not for-
gotten that the educational question had only been car-
ried by a majority of two I aucrthat the Lords even then
dared to remonstrate with the,Throne that had favoured
the instruction of the people. Tile Chartist complained
that he was refused the right of voting, because it was
'believed' the class to which he belonged was not suffi-
ciently instructed to exercise the right with safety ; but
the Chartist replied, " If I am unfit to exercise the
franchise, because I am ignorant, why does not the Go-
vernment instruct me, or, at least, provide for the in-
struction of my children ?"And what reply can be're-
turned to such questions without refleeting on the classes
who oppose a system of national education ? He was
aware of another Class of opponents to this
question,' viz.—the clergy. They appeared to be
resolVed to have an offieial predominance allowed
to them, or never to remit their opposition.
Theie was another view of the subject which he felt
to justify his presence at that meeting, viz, the con-
nection of poverty with morality ; and that if it might
be fairly said many gentlemen present understood the
connection. of the Corn-laws with the price of knives
better than he did, he hoped there was no person
present who did not see the vital connection between
popular morality and poverty, and that of both, with a
good system of general education, and the direct bely-
ing of the whole on the happiness of mankind. But be-
fore these great 'Measures, desirable as they were, could
be procured, vicissitudes of fortune must befall another
of England's worthies—monopoly ; who, though it had
ruined every city of which it had become the patron,
and injured every trade which it had undertaken .to
augment,had yet been the long honoured companion
of the great ; a playmate of John Bull's ; the restorer
of many an exhausted exchequer—pity that calamities"
should befall such a hoary-headed confidant of kings.

By the usual official return -pbblished by the Cus-
toms, the exportation of the precious metals from the port of
London to foreign and cohmial ports for the week ending the 2d
of January is as under:— Ounces.
Silver coin to Singapore 3,700
British West Indies

Bars to Madras and Calcutta
19,2G9

Tlie Honorary Secretary of the Royal Free Hos-
,pital for the Destitute. Sick, having transmitted through
Lord Normanby the Annual Report of that. excellent
Charity to her Majesty, the Patron of it, has received
the following most gracious Communication
St. James's Palace, Jan. 6, 1840. .
" Sir Henry Wheatey presents his compliments to
Mr. Packman, and hers to acknowledge the receipt of
the•. Report of the Royal Free Hospital, of Greviiie_
street, .Hatton-garden. Sir Henry is honoured' with
the Queen's commands to present 'Mr. Packman ivith
the. sum of 501., as a donation in aid of the funds of the
Society, which Sir Henry will have much pleasure in
doing any morning that Mr. Packinan will do him the
honour of calling upon him at St. James's Palace about
eleven o'clock."
" Rev. R. C. Packman, Royal Free Hospital."
MRS. S. C. IJALL's NEW NOVEL.—We ate
requested to state that Mr. Colburn, of G-eat Marl-
borough-street has this day published Marian, or, a
Young Maid's Fortunes, by Mrs. S. C. Hall, author of
Lights and Shadows of Irish Life, &c., in 3 vols. post
Bvo., which can now be had atlall the Libraries. Mr.
Colburn "has also just published the following New
Works of Fiction by popular writers :-1. The Spit-
fire, a Nautical Romance, by Captain Chamier, 3 vols.
—2. Preferment ; or, My Uncle the Earl, by Mrs.
Gore, 3 vols.-3. The Life and Adventures of Michael
Armstrong the Factory Boy, by Mrs. Trollope, 3 volt.,
with all the Illustrations. 255.-4. The Romance of
Private Life, 'by Miss Burney, 3 vols. ; and; 5. Little
Pedlington and the Pediingtonians, by John Poole,
Esq., Author of Paul Pry, 2 vols.
ACCIDENT FROM FIRE.—On Monday a shock.
ing accident happened to a girl of the name of Long,
who lived, with her parents in White Bear-gardens,
Shoreititch. It appeared that the sister was appre-
hended on a charge of robbery, and had been taken to
Worship-street Police Court on Saturday. She was
remanded till yesterday. Her parents were away from
from home for the purpose of obtaining witnesses as to
the character of their (laughter, when on returning home
they found that their child had been burnt in a most
shockinc, manner. She wat immediately taken to St.
Bartholomew's Hospital.

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Co NI MISSION .

TRIAL OF MR. FROST—(SEVENTH DAL)
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THE DEFENCE.
MONMOUTH, TUESDAY NIGHT.
Previous to the commencement of the proceedings Mr.
Thor.nas, as Counsel for Lnwellyn, applied for money
taken from the prisoner at the time of his arrest., in order
that it might be restored for the purposes of his defence.
The Court granted the application.
• The examination of witnesses for the prisoner was then
proceeded with.
Wm. Morgan examined—l am book-keeper of Pear-
son and Hearne, wholesale linen-drapers of Bristol ; they
have had dealings with Mr. Frost for many years, end
supplied him with goods in the wholesale way. • They so
supplied him with goods prior to November last. He had
a running account of about 2001. The custom was for
the traveller to go round, and to value upon the custo-
mers Bills were drawn and accepted. There was a
bill of 57/ , dated in August, for three months, due by Mr.
Most on Nov. 4. I have the bill enclosed here; it is
this. The bill is dated Aug. 1, 1839. It is drawn by
our, traveller, Wm. Woods, for the firm, upon John Frost,
of Newport, accepted by him, and payable at the West of
England Bank, Bristol. That was duly paid at the Bank.
We had bills of that sort from Mr. Frost four times a.year.
Cross-examined.—Our house disposed of the bill by
payment to a Mr. Man, of Shaftesbury, and we heard no
more about it.

John Chaplain—l am bookkeeper to Chapman and Rea-
ford, of Bristol, linen and Scotch dealers. Thoy had
transactions in business with Mr. Frost. Prior to No-
vember last they had for several years supplied Mr. Frost,
and our course of business was to be paid by a bill from Mr.
Frost, which was sent to him and accepted. Prior to last
November I sent a bill for his acceptance. The last bill;
for 1191. Ils., was due on the 27th of October last. Our
house had dealt with Mr. Frost in that way for•ten years,
-and he was always remarkablypunetual in his payments.
This last bill was paid.
Cross-examined-_I think I never saw Mr. Frost in my
life. The name of John Frost appears in our book. -
Re-examined—l never went to Newport in my life. • If
-Mr. Frost had come to Bristol it is probable I might have
:e ^n him.

. Mary Jones examined by Mr. live just by the
Blackwood, • the other side of the river;next door to James
Hodges. I know him by -hit' face personally these two
years. I called. at his house the day of the riot at. New-
port. I was there between the hours of eight and nine
o'clock in the morning. He was then in bed.
Cross-examined by the:Sblicitor-GeneraLA cannot tell
how early I got up that morning, for my daughter was in
a decline, and I was up and down all night. I break-
fasted that morning after I saw Hodges. - I went for milk
that morning, and after I had left it at home I turned into
Hodges' house, seeing the door open, and I said to •Mrs.
Hodges., "Mary, did you hear the people going down?"'
says I, " last night," and she showed me her husband, and
said, " Here's my old man, thank God." I did le.t- see
James Hodges that morning before I saw him in bed. I
cannot say if wife was up. I suppose she was in bed
as Well as was. Nobody was living in my house but my-
self and-my daughter.'
- Henry Williams examined by Sir F. Pollock—l live at
NeWport. I am. an ironmonger. I keep a shop of my
own. I remember Monday, the 4th of November. I
-saw' persons coming
.down Stow-hill. I was at the door
of the Westgate when the mob came up to it. I Vas
there as .a spacial constable. •The man who first came up
to the door said, ."...Surrender up your prisoners."
Cross-examined by the Attorney-General—l had the
honour of acting as -the Mayor's aide-de-camp very early
in the morning.. I saw the mob about two miles or two
miles and a half off. I went-then up Pic-corner, which is
beyond Vredegar-park.• I saw a great number armed in
various ways-with pikes, guns, and mandrils. 1 saw one
party which was between 400 and 500 in number. When
I saw the mob a second time they were about a mile from
Newpert. They were then halting and cheering. -As
sooa'as I saw the body I returned to the Mayor and told
him 'What I had seen. They were then near the nachine.
I did not observe whether they divided. When I • re-
turned the second time I was stationed at the Westgate
door remained there until the mob Came down to the
-Westgate Hotel. - They passed the front dobr and went
• towards.the gates, and then they returned. They were-
led by the man who spoke tome, and he said, " Surrender
lip your prisoners." He had an axe upon a pole.; I
received two stabs in the 1)34, a wound in the leg,
and a -gun-shot in the head. I received these wounds
.frorn this Chartists when I was standing at the door,
acting .as a special constable. The mob fried to get in
at the, door, and I and other special constables tried to pre-
vent them, and wetwere wounded while thus preventing
them. I heard no groaning from the special constables. 1
convinced -there was no groaning. I fell senseless
attcr being,shot. P.'was in the lobby where I had been
went-160. At that time a great many shots had been tired
from the insurgent;. .1 was three or four fer.t inside the
door when..l was. shot. I saw Oliver and O'Dwyer there
acting as special constables. I saw-the Chartists thrust at

us
u. with their pikes, breaking the windows and doing every
damage they possibly could. Did not recover my senses
uotil alter the insurgents had retreated. The lobby was
full cf insurgents. I was left alone. The rest of the spe-
cial constahles were _driven in: Those of • the Mob who
were In the lobby had pikes and guns. .I am not sure that
any of them Were in the paSsage where the soldiers were
stationed, but I Think they were. I did not see the con-
.s make any attack, or attempt to seize . - We
were on . the -(l•2fensive. ..The Mayor had positively or-
dered that we should not attack'. The struggle was
going on about- two minutes before I was shot. I did not
see the front door shut at all. Ido not know how
nianyspecial'eonstables there were. I
.suppose there Were
a hundred altogether. I think there'rnust have been 20 in
the lobby. -The special constables had no other weapons
than a constable's club. Before I was shot I saw the guns
pointed, and the firing came from the street and street door,
The shots Were directed against the special constables.
• There r. ere, eight:or ten shots fired. The special eon-
stabis did all they could to guard the Westgate, and were
driven in by an armed body. I saw the soldiers arrive from
the barracks. • I saw the soldiers come round the 'corner
as if fi.orn Stow-hill. That would be the natural course
from the barracks. There were numbers going about at
the cline who must have Seen the soldiers' coming .down
Siew4laill. There was-not a quarter- of ,a minute between
the man speaking to me and the first shot being fired.
Re.examined—l mean by the- man speaking to me his
sayings " Surrender your prisoners." - I am told that I am
to receive a pension from the Government. lam a wit-
ness for the prosecution. .. • • •
To the Court—When they said " Surrender you pri-
soners," I said " What prisoners?" I did' not hear any
one say ". No, .never."
Lord Granville Somerset examined by Sir F. Pollock—
I em cow Mc tuber tor this county, and have been so for
many 3Reirs. I was candidate about the year 1831, at the
time of the Reform 131. I have a very indistinct recol-
leetion of what happened in the canvass.of Newport; but
I have endeavoured to recollect the facts. I regarded
what happened as a niece ebullition of popular feeling, and
I cared very little about it. My own impression is, that
there was a gr,lit tumult, win, a disposition to personal
violence on the part of the mob collected. I believe. the
violence was more directed ac,ainst my brother, then can-
vassing for the borough of Newport, than against myself.
I was not with him when the violence commenced ; Out on
rejoining him he told me-what had happened. I saw the
mob committing violence, r rid Mr. Frost did his best to
prevent violence. I really believe his object was to pre-
serve the peace. My brother, the Duke of Beaufort, in
consequence of the mi,-delivery of a letter, or of the an-
swer to a letter, has net been abl ; to attend.
The case here closed for the prisoner.

Thomas Watts was then called, and examined by the
Attorney,General-1 live at Gelly-grove, thirteen miles
from Newport, and about a mile and a quarter from Black-
.. odd. I left my house at Gelly-grove about half-past
seven on the morning of the 4th of November. I went
down the tramroad towards Newport. I 'travelled on
horseback. I know James Hodges, who lives at Noxfield,
near Blackwood. I met him that morning by the Royal
Oak.' That is a mile below Rises, which is nearer to
Newport. Where I met him is five miles and a quarter
from l'N'ewpoit, and three miles and a half from Pie-corner.
When I said " Royal Oak," I meant " Welsh Oak."
That is eight miles from Blackwood. I think lamet him
there between eight and nine o'clock. From half-paq
eight to nine. Hodges was then walking very fast, and
coming up from Newpert towards Blackwood.
Cross-examined by Sir Frederick Pollock—l am a
hollier and a farmer. lam in the service of no one es a
hollier. I keep a team for drawing wood. The Trede,-ar
Company employs inn and other persons. My landlord if,
Jones, of Lanarth. I first mentioned yesterday morning
that I saw Hodges on the road, and mentioned it to

Phelps. I told him I met Hodges in the morning. Mr.
Phelps asked me if I had seen James Hodges. It was not
until nine o'clock yesterday morning that he spoke to me,
and asked rue when I SAW. Hodges, and where I saW hint

I keep •my clocks twenty minutes fast, in order to get my
servants up early, in the morning, I saw Hodges first oat
the Welsh Oak, between'oalf-past eight and twenty rninute.i
to nine' o'clock. The Welsh Oak is three miles and a half
from Pie-corner. I have been serviceable in this proiccu-
don, nod will be so again if I can.
• Cross-examined-1 am a constable, and had taken 23 of
the prisoners ni3 self.
Sir Frederick Pollock—What I meant was that you
were a fetch-and-carry sort of person—bringing pikes in
and out, and so op.

Re-examined—l have had the custody of the pikes. I
rode down that morning at the rate of ten miles an hoar.
The road is a good carriage road.

• The Solicitor-General here proposed to call the witness
Hopkins. He said that his object was to contradict Gould ;
for Gould had stated that Hopkins stood at the door, and
rsked the insurgents what they wanted, and that th. i►:sur-
gents gave a certain reply to that question.
Sir F. Pollock submitted that the. Crown could not., do
The Crown would in the first instance have proved,

hatever happened in the frrnt of the inn, and of a.list of
2.00 witnesses they would have called such persons as they
thought fit, and out of the 70 witnesses which were on the
body of the bill they alight have called this very Edward
Hopkins.
Judge Parke remarked that he had been examined.
Sir F. Pollock—He was called, and produced a number
of weapons: lie was actually sworn to produce weapons,
He didproduce them, but his name was not to be found
amongst this list of witnesses.
Judge Parke remarked that Hopkins was introduced in
the middle of Sir T. Phillips's examination.
Sir F. Pollock continued, by remarking that blyond the
production of weapons no question had been put to hin!
He submitted, then, that the Crown had no right to cal
him forward to contradict the witness, who • merely gave
a diff:rent statement of the transaction from that the
witness on the part of the Crown had originally Given, and
the mere circumstance of onc of the witnesses having named
Hopkin,, as a person who had taken a certain
part
in the
transaction, would not entitle the Counsel fur the Crown
to call Hopkins to give a substantial contradiction to 6,4
which the witness bad stated.