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NEW MUSIC.

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Just published, by Messrs. BIRCH ALL, LONSI)ALE, and
NULLS, 133, New Bond-street, price Qs. tid.
AHYMN for Three Voices. Dedicated by
permission, to the night Honourable the Countess
of Liverpool. The AVerds by the Right Rev. KEGINALD
HEBF.R, D.D. Lord Bishop of CALCUTTA. The Music
bra LADY.

RICHRELL-COURT, LAMB'S coNnurr-s-ntEET.
TO be LET, by the Masters, Governors, and
Trustees of the Bedford Charity, on a repairing Lease,
fur 19i years, from Michaelmas nem, a HOUSE, No. I,
Webbed-court, Lamh's Conduit-street. Persons desirous of
taking the same are to send in Proposals in writing. sealed
"P, to the Receiver, Mr. Gutohed, 82, Great Russell-
Itteet, Bloomsbury, on or before the 2d of August next.---A
'form of the proposal, and a particular of the repairs, may be
seen on the premises; or at No. 82, Great Russell-street, be-
tween the hours of eeven and three.

Mews. BROWELL and (70. LONDON, JUNK 28, 1823.
Feel pleasure in adding to the numerous tes-
timonials you have already received, my must omits:inflect
approbation of your invention.
I have given your PREPARED CANVAS a fair hut severe
'fiat, on board the brig Resolver, under toy command, for
'The last 12 months, in the West indict' and Mediterranean,
having had a fore-sail, a main-sail, x top-sail. and three
-studding-sails, made of Leeds Canvas, which had undergone
your process, constantly in nee, and find, that in every re-
sheet it possesses the valuable properties described in your
advertistircots.
I have likewise to remark, that in each of the 1/3iis shore-
mentioned were two or three cloths of the same Leeds Cana
vas, but 11d. a yard dearer, which had not undergone you,-
process, most of which cloths are more or less mildewed; but,
all the Prepared Canvas is perfectly free from mildew !
I hare likewise to observe, that the Canvas which has under.'
gone your process is remarkably soft and pliant, and 'het
• consequently the sails may he reefed and furled much easier
and neater ; also, that when stowed below they occupy less
room.-1 am, Gentlemen, your's most cordially,
JAMES PliaCH ARD.
N. 11. The sails alluded to by Capt. Pritchard are now
Ilitst in the Owner's loft, Messrs. Dowsons and Old,
Linsehouse Bridge Dock.

PARLIAMENT,

HOUSE- OF LORDS, JULY
About three o'clock his Royal Highness the Duke of Cu M.,
)1111ILAND, who had never been present since the Accossion
of his Majesty, took the prescribed oaths, anti afterwards
his seat.
ROYAL ASSENT.
Within ji quarter to four o'clock the Earl of Sir AFT tsn un v,
the Lorin CHANcELLOR, and Lord ManYnonou G it, as his
Mitiesty'S Commissioners, brought down, the Royal Assent to
the Lotteries Bill, the Barilla Duties Act Amendment Bill,
the Disembodied Militia Bill, and the Ireland Insurrection
Act Continuation Bill, which latter Bill is to remain in force
till the Ist of August, 1024.
NEW BILLS.
Mr. BitoonEg and others brought up the General Distil-
leries Bill, the Linen (Ireland) Manufacture Bill, the Cork
General Sessions Bill, and some other Bills, which were after-
wards read a first time.
Mr. Stet/gulling presenter; the Quarterly Report from the
Commissioners for NVestritinster Bridge.
An Account was presented of the charges and expences 1
at-
tending the building of New Churches, pursuant to the Acts of
Parliament on that specific point.
Mr. T ERN EY, from the Tax Office,. presented a statement
'of the expences incurred by the Commissioners for the Re-
, Aluction and Sale of the National Debt, front the sth of
-A,Pr:4l 1022, to the sth of April last, pursuant to the Act of the
42d Geo. 111.
The Duke of LEINSTER presented a Petition from the
Freemasons of Ireland, who, appealing to their known loyalty.
• 710 w prayed that the Irish Unlawful Oaths Administration Bill
might not be construed to extend to them.
!'he Bishop of NORWICH presented a Petition from the
Clergy of the Diocese of Norwich, who expressed their opinion
to'be in favour of the English Roman 'Catholics (Civil Offices)
Qualification Bill.
Two Petitions were presented by the Earl of StrAFTES-
,
11.'"Y against the granting of any further concessions to the
Roman Catholics; but nobody could gather who the Peti-
tioners were.
After some remarks from Viscount Itlrt.vir.t.z and the
Earl of ItOSSLYN, the Scotch Commissary Court Bill was
amended in a Committee, and ordered to be printed.
Lord VERULAM Presented a Petition from the Clergy of
the Archdeaconry.of St. Alban's who prayed that no fur-
titer concessions might be granted the Roman Catholics in
any way.

MA RRIAGES „ABROAD.
Lord HOLLAND moved the third reading of his Bill for
rendering more valid the Marriages of British Subjects in
reign Parts. He had one or two amendments to make, although
not important, which he should propose as riders to the Bill.
lie found it was wished by some of their Lordships that the
words " all doubts" should be substituted for the words " all
Possibility of doubt," in the preamble of the Bill.
The amendments were agreed to, when the Bill was read a,
third time, passed, and messaged to the other House.
Upon the motion of the Earl of Sitar T sit urn-, their Lord-
ships went into a succession•of Committees on the Reciprocity
of Duties Bill, the Gaols Building Bill, the Ireland and Eng-
land Customs Duties Bill, the East India Half-pay Bill, the
Equalization of Duties Bill; the hand. Tax Commissioners
Names Bill, the Ireland Malicious Injuries Bill, and some
other Bills, the majority of which were reported to the House
without any amendments.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN presented a Petition from
some twelve or fourteen persons now resident in the counties of
Middlesex and Surrey, who prayed their Lordships to extend
the English system of Poor haws to Ireland. The Petition
had been put into his, ands since he came into the llouse, and
he had undertaken to present it.
ENGLISH CATHOLICS'.

The Marquis of LANSUOWN observed, that there were
two Bills before the House for the Relief of the Catholics of
England, by placing them nearly en the same footing as the
Catholics of Ireland. It was for the purpose of moving for the
second reading of the first of those Bills, namely, " a Bill to
Repeal so much of the Statute of William 111. as related to
the Administration of the Oath of Supremacy to persons vot.
ing.at Elections of Members of Parliament," that he now ad.
4ressed their Lordships. The greatest difficulty he experienced
was in anticipating on what possible ground these measures
cedil, be. opposed. It was necessary that their opponents
should establish, either that Mr. Pitt and the Protestant Go.
vernment and.rarliartietit of 179:1 were in error, when they ad.
gritted the rriaii portion Catholics- to the- enjoyment of, the

Elective Franchise, and to the eventual enjoyment of certain
civil offices (which it was not likely they would attempt to do,
as otherwise those who possessed the power would long since
have proposed the abrogation of the Act of 1793), or that cir-
cumstances attached to the Catholics of England which did
not attach to the Catholics of Ireland, and which tendered
the former incapable and unfit to enjoy those constitutional
privileges which had been with propriety and safety com-
municated to the latter. In the reply to the latter objection,
if it were made, he would ask whether, on the most delibe-
rate view that could be taken of the condition and history of
the Catholics of England, and of their uniform good conduct
and peaceable demeanour, any thing appeared which could
justify Parliament in withholding what nothing short of state
necessity could justify them in withholding, the invaluable
privilegeof being represented in Parliament, so necessary to
the security of the British subject, and without which the
British Constitution could scarcely be called a blessing ? Ile
really did not know how to argue the subject. It was for
those who thought there was something in the character of
• the English Catholics which rendered it dangerous to grant
them what the Irish Catholics had so long enjoyed, to point
out the danger. For himself he was persuaded, that it there
was any difference in the two classes of persons, it was
(without meaning to cast any slur on the Irish Catholics) in
favour of the Catholics of England. He knew it might he
said, that the electiVe franchise had been in many 1661,01e:is
abused in Ireland, that votes had been manufactured,and .10
shilling freeholders driven up in herds to the hustings.. But
not a small portion of the blame of those proceedings attached
to. the successive Governments of that country ; for whenever
a commodity was found to be remarkable, it was not surpris•
ing that human infirmity should avail itself of the possession
Of that comniodity for purposes of personal interest. He
trusted their Lordships would not be told that the subject was
; new, and one to which they were unaccustomed ; and that the
proposition to place the English Catholics where the Irish Ca-
' thanes was placed twenty or thirty years ago, was consequently
one which it was difficult and hazardous to deal with. Nor, he
hoped, would it he said that die Catholics of England had not
petitioned for this concession, and therefore that it was not
necessary to communicate to them advantages which they had
Pot sought. Ile had always understood that when the privi-
Mes of the Constitution were conferred on any class of his
Mjesty's subjects, it was not for the exclusive benefit of that
class; but for the benefit of the whole community. Therefore,
although no petition had been presented from the English Ca-
tholics (and indeed, had he been consulted, he would not have
advised them to present a petition for a measure so limited as
the present), yet, if their Lordships thought the measure right,
he did not conceive that that was a ground on which it ought
to be. rejected. Their Lordships ought especially to hesitate
beford they refused to place the Catholics of England on the
same footing as the Catholics of Ireland, at a time when the
intercourse and communication between the two countries was
every day increasing, and when the inhabitants of both were
more closely assimilated in every respect, even down to the
clothes they wore, and the produce they consumed. It had
been somewhere insinuated that this Bill would place the Ca-
tholics of England in a better' situation than the PrOtestaat
Dissenters. It' it were so, he would decidedly oppose it.' lint
directly the contrary was the case. Even if . the present Bills
were passed, the Protestant Dissenter might still be eligible to
certain offices from which the Catholic would be extluded.
The Bills would not even place the Catholics of England on
precisely as good a footing as the Catholics of Ireland, for the
former'Would still remain exposed to the operation of the Test
Act, from which they could be relieved only by an annual In-
demnity Bill. For all. these reasons he should move their
Lordships that the Bill be now read a second time. •
Lord ItEDESDALE opposed the motion. • To give the
elective franchise was to give a great political power. That
power had been productive in Ireland of great agitation. Of
the two Bills he would rather concede that which rendered the
Catholics eligible to certain civil offices, as the less inconveni-
ent and dangerous. .The consequence of granting the Irish
Catholics the elective franchise had been the creation of two in-.
terests at every election, Protestant and Catholic, in violent
116%414 to each other. He could never consent to any mea-
sure which had a tendency to overturn that Protestant Esta-
blishment to which every loyal subject (loyal in his sense of
the word, which did not confine its meaning to loyalty in the
Sovereign) was bound to maintain. Nothing should induce
him to risk the sacrifice of a single point which he thought
went to the conservation of that establishment. Let their
Lordships look at the preamble of the statute of William,
which ft was sought by this Bill to repeal. The necessity of
that statute as a security to the Protestant establishment was
there unequivocally declared. In his opinion the necessity was
as great in the present day as in the time at King William.
As to the Oath of Supremacy, he denied that by an existing
law it was distinctly enacted that the Oath of Supremacy
should be remitted to the Catholics of Ireland. The Noble

Lord concluded by moving, that the Bill be read a second time
that day three months.
The Earl of 'WESTMORELAND said it was with great
satisfaction that he saw the claims of the Roman Catholics of
England brought before Parliament, divested of all considera,
dons connected with Irish politicsand Irish party. The excellent
conduct of that body, during so long a period of time, entithAt
them to every Concession which could be extended to them eon,
sistently with the spirit of the Constitution. There was no ar-
gument which could be urged in favour of granting those
privileges which had already been conceded to the Catholics of
Ireland, which did not apply with double force to the propriety
of conceding them to the Catholics of England. lie was so far
from thinking that the agitation of the Catholic question was
calculated to do mischief, that he was persuaded it rather
tended to tranquillize the state of public feeling in Ireland. If"
the whole of the Catholic question, however, were granted to-
morrow, he did not believe that it would have the slightest
effect upon the peace of that country. lie believed that the.
Catholics were in general a loyal body. It was said that if this
measure were carried, it would give the catholics an influence
in the deliberations of Parliament ; but such an influence was
no inure tban so large a body of his Majesty's subjects was en-
titled to. lie had not altered his opinions as to the impolicy of
granting further concessions to the Roman Catholics of Ireland,
and it was for that reason that he supported the present mea-
sure, which went only to place the Roman Catholics of England

upon the same foothig. -
The Bishop of NORWICH said that the general question
involved in the Bills now before the House had been so fre-
quently discussed, that it would require little short of inspir-
ation to suggest arty new arguments in support of the pro-
priety of concession, or even to give a new colouring to
the arguments which had been already employed. Much as
this question had been discussed, the result, however, had not
been such as . might have been reasonably hoped for from the
liberal,.and enlightened spirit of the age—front the progress
Of intelligence in every part of the United Kingdom—and
front the more extensive diffusion of the mild and tolerant
principles of Christianity, ,by means of . various religious
institutions, and especially those of Bible Societies. Ile
should not, indeed, have presumed to trespass upon their
Lordships' attention, if he had not felt himself called upon
to embrace the opportunity—the last, probably, which at his
aged he could. expect to have—of protesting most strongly,
in his own name, and 'in the names of many Learned and
excellent Clergymen of his diocese, against the assertions
contained in some of the Petitions which had been recently
laid upon the table. lie protested against such assertion,
because he was firmly persuaded that the security of the
Church of England, or of any Christian Church, could never
be endangered by tiding upon Christian principles; and
that the security ofour cavil instititutions could never be en-
dangered by uniting the hearts and hands of all Subjects of
every denomination in the ties of gratitude and affection.
which were the firmest bond of peace. The cry of innovation
had succeeded to the more noisy and wicked cry of " No Po-
pery." Happily for the peace of society both these cries bad
become harmless and ineffectual, for there were very few in the
middle ranks of life, anti not many even in the lowest, who did
not perfectly understand that to these most dreaded innovations
we Were indebted for many of the greatest blessings which we
enjoyed. The Revolution was an innovation ; Christianity it-
self was a glorious innovation. The Historian of the Roman
Empire informs us that in the reign of Valentinian, a Heathen
High Priest pronounced an oration before that Enipeior, in
which he. warned him of the danger of innovation and intreat-
ed him not to suffer the Gospel to be preached in Rome. " Re.
verend Sire (said the sacerdotal- Petitioner), 1 beseech you in.
my old uge to reverence our old Institutions ; these rite's drove
Hannibal from our walls; disturb not the repose of my de-
Ainingyears by. the introduction of any innovation; softer us
to retain the undisturbed possession of a religion which has
flourished for so many yearit.The reasoning of this high
Priest was fully as conclusive as that of the .Christian High
Churchmen of the present day, who were alarmed az the bare,
mention of any innovation is Church or Stater however Deco-