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LONDON. TUF-QDAv. 31.i.rzazz ~47

The Lords met at Five o'c!ock.

Lord BROUGHAM brought in a Bill to amend the law
with respect to insolvent debtors, which was read a first
time.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in answer to the Earl
of RIPON, said that he would lay upon the table all the
papers relating to the affairs of the Punjaub.
After certain questions had been asked and answered,
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved the second read-
ing of the Labouring Poor (Ireland) Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM would not oppose this act of in-
demnity, but he thought it should have been proposed
earlier.

Lord MONTEAGLE would not oppose the motion, but
he thought the agreements for labour on farms should
be left to be voluntary between landlord and tenant.
After a few words from the Marquis of WESTMEATH
Lnd thc! Earl of ELLENBOROUGH,

Earl FITZWILLIAM said that the people of England
did not properly understand this question, and their
present economy would turn out to be prospective ex-
travagance.

After a short speech from the Marquis of LANSDOWNE,
the Bill was read a second time.

Earl GREY brought in a Bill to amend the laws re-
specting transportation, and also a Bill to amend the
laws for the management of the Milbank and Park-
hurst Penitentiaries, which he proposed should be read
a second time on Friday.
Their Lordships then adjourned.
The Commons met at Four.
The New Zealand Bill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed.
Lord JOUN RUssELL said that her MAJESTY had been
graciously pleased to order the Lords of the Council to
appoint a day of national fast and humiliation.
In answer to a question by Mr. Smrrn O'BRIEN, it
was stated by Mr. LABOUGHERE, that in certain instances
in Sligo, Bd. a day had been paid to labourers on the
public works, who, having taken task work, were unable
to complete it ; but it should be remembered that the
average daily wages of labourers in the county of Sligo
was only 6d. a day.
Mr. ESCOTT, in answer to Sir R. INGLIS, said that the
Roman Catholic Relief Bill would be committed imme-
diately after Easter.
Lord JOAN RUSSELL said that the grant for education
would be the same as last year.
Mr. BAILLIE defended certain highland proprietors
from the charges which had been brought against them
of neglecting the poor.
Mr. FA.LicE bore testimony t.) the great exertions of
the Government, who had done all that it was in the
power of any Government to do, to ward off the effects
of famine.
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The House having resolved itself into a Committee
of Ways and Means.
The CHANCELLOR t f the EXCHEQUER dotailed the ne-
gotiations into w hich he had emend for the pupose of
raising the loan of 8,000,000/. The parties bidding for
the loan were to bid so much money for each 100/. Con-
solidated Stock. lie had accepted one of 891. 10s. for
each 100/. The Right Honourable Gentleman con-
cluded by moving the usual resolutions authorising the
raising the loan, which, after a short conversation, was
agreed to.
The House then resumed.

On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, the house went
into Committee on the Poor Belief (Ireland) Bill, and
the BVII was ordered to be recommitted on Monday.
On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, the Committee on
the Landed Property (Ireland) Bill was, after a short
convenation, postponed to Monday next.

On the motion that the House go into Committee of
Supply on the army estimates,
Mr. Hum; objected to the increase intended in these
estimates, fur which he saw no reason whatever.

The House was then addressed by Sir DE LACY
EVANS, Lord GEorcE BENTINCK, Mr. WILLIAMS, and
Mr. BROTIIERTON.

After which the house res..lved itself into a Commit-
tee of Supply, when Mr. Fox MitTLE proposed the army
estimates. Several votes were agreed to, and the House

resumed.

The Consolidated Fund Bill w•as read a second time,

The Bill for limiting the period for enlistment in the
army was read a first time.
The House adjourned at Twelve o'clock.

Our naval power is so essential to our very exis-
tence as a nation, that too many precautions cannot
be taken for the prevention of its decay, too much
interest cannot be felt in its prosperity, or too much
scrutiny cast upon the administration of that depart
ment of our national service. We have already ex-
pressed our satisfaction at the vigorous course entered
upon by the present Government in reference to the
extension and development of our maritime energies.
In the able and comprehensive speech, delivered on
Friday evening by the Hon. Gentleman the Secretary
to the Admiralty, we have recognised the programme
of an innovation most propitious and most conso-
latory. But our observations upon the requisi-
tions announced in that statement of the naval
estimates for the current year were neces-
sarily restricted to the consideration of the
broad circumstance that a new system was
about to be adopted. Our congratulations to the
empire were, for ostensible reasons, confined to the
bare announcement of an increase in those important
estimates. It is, however, so essential that the money
thus abstracted from the Exchequer should be judi-
ciously applied—that, in short, with the minimum of
expense we should obtain the maximum of advantage
—that we are induced to return to the examination
of Mr. WAnn's clever and satisfactory statement.
What have been the perpetual themes of the
self-elected scrutators of the Admiralty ? These
two :--first, the mal-application of the moneys
already expended in our naval affairs, and,
4econtlly, the niggardliness of the amounts com-
prised in our annual estimates for that ser•
rice. It would be absurd and futile to deny the
validity of those accusations. That parsimony has
been evinced by our Legislature in the sums voted
periodically to this most national and rational expen-
diture, is manifest on comparing the gross calculation
of the naval estimates of France, nut a merely mari-
time nation, and of the naval estimates of Great
Britain, essentially and pre-eminently a maritime
nation. Mr. WARD has contrasted those by no means
analogous estimates. We have repeated that con-
trast; we have done more, we have enumerated the
various amounts devoted tothe English navy as far back
as 1816, and as recently as 1844--an enumeration
which would be of itself sufficient testimony that our
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