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London, England, 1841-06-03 00:00:00

rence and hearty support. He thought these measures,
ilaportant as they were, would be incomple'Le without
that for which Le had always battled—namely, a pro-
perty tax, which would meet the exigencies of the State,
without adding to the burdens of the humbler classes,
The agriculturist, the manufacturer, and the merchant,
toil contributed their fair proportion to the expenses of
tke State, and it was most unjust that the great monied
interest should escape almost . untaxed. Let not Hon.
ilem!iers on the other side of the House " lay the flat-
tering unction to their souls," that even if they had a
enajority on the present motion, which he entertained
considerable dotibts about, that it would drive Ministers
either to resign or to dissolve Parliament, before they had
ltild their measures fully before the country.—(Cheers.)
On every sound principle of political economy, he felt
himself bound to give his support to the present Govern-
silent. They had abolished the pension-list, that disgrace
to the country; and although the questions of the ballot,
and the extension of the suffrage,—measures which he
had much at heart—were not yet entertained by the pre-
sent Government, he preferred the course which they
took upon these questions, to the open and undisguised
'hostility with which these and every boon to the people
sere met by Hon. Members on the other side of the
these. lie never gave a vote with greater satisfaction
in•his life, and he would fearlessly . claim a renewal of
the votes of his constituents, on the ground that he had
supported these Ministers for their advocacy of liberal
jprinciples, and their determination to do justice all classes
,of her _Majesty's subjects.—(Cheers.)
ilr. J. GRTTAN, although differing on many
points from jpl Hon. Member who had just sat down,
would not yien.`o,him in his anxiety to render his best
support to the present Government. Looking at their
olicy, both at home and abroad, and more especially
looking at their policy with regard to Ireland, it ap-
peared to him that they were entitled to a vote of thanks
from the House, instead of a vote of want of confidence.
—(Hear, hear.) Since the present Ministry had come
into power in 1831, Ireland had made rapid
strides in the course of improvement and regeneration.
Capital was now freely embarked in that country, and
her resources were rapidly developing. With regard to
the Bs. Axed duty upon corn, it appeared to him that
it would inflict great injury upon the agricultural in-
terests of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) He gave his candid
a.pinion upon the subject. By a fixed duty they would
change their markets altogether, and throughout the
Continent they would have a supply which would be
regular and steady in proportion to the demand, and
the result would be, that the whole of the trade now
carried on with Ireland would be transferred to the
agriculturists of the Continent. He regretted to be
obliged to differ from the present Government, for it
was the first time he had done so for the last twenty
years; but he was anxious to give his candid opinion to
the House. He thought it was an attempt, though an
idle and a vain one, on the part of the manufacturers, to
raise themselves at the expense of the agricultural in-
terests. They would be lamentably disappointed in
their expectations, for, in lris opinion, they would pull
down the agricultural interest without bettering their
own condition. It was from a conviction of the utility
of the general principles of the Government, that he
-would, on the present occasion, give them his support.
Lord C. HAMILTON was surprised that the Hon.
Gentleman who had just sat down should declare his
intention of supporting the Government after hav-
ing opposed them in one of their main measures
—a measure which was introduced with a view to
their own interest, and not to the interest of the country.
With respect to the analogy whiCh was said to exist be-
tween the position of Mr. Pitt's Administration in 1784
And that of the present Government, there was one great
distinction which could not be overlooked, and that was
that while the majorities against Mr. Pitt's Government
had gradually decreased the majorities obtained against
the present Ministry had gone on increasing. In 1835
A compact alliance was entered into—a coalition opposi-
lion was formed for the sole purpose of putting the
Bight Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth and his
colleagues out of office, and the instant any measure of
essential importance to the country was obstructed, in
consequence of that opposition the Right Hon. Gentle-
man gave up the administration of affairs. But such
was not the case with the present Government ; no com-
pact alliance—no coalition opposition had been formed
against them. It could not but be in the re-
''',7 kollection of the House the use which was made
at the elections of her Majesty's name. In Ire-
land, in particular, her Majesty's name was associeted
with the names of the eandidates professing the opinions
of Honourable Gentlemen on the other side of the House.
How came it that the Government should now pin their
existence to their proposition respecting the Corn-laws,
when during the six years they were in office, they had
refused even to entertain the question? As the Govern-
ment were confessedly unable to carry out measures
which they deemed of great importance, he thought on
all constitutional grounds they ought to resign their offi-
ces. Ile conceived that those who objected to the par-
ticular measures of the Government, and yet gave them
their support on this occasion, would co them little good
by such an exhibition ofinconsistency. The cries of elicit!)
bread, and cheap sugar, were undoubtedly most caltn-
leting cries, but he hoped if they were to be made the
er)- of the Government, a speech of the Noble Lord (Lord
J. Russell) would be explained to then), which was made
some years ago, and in which the Noble Lord said such
alterations iii the law as that now proposed would
divert property i tt4 a ..ther channel.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir G. STA L STuS said, us the Right'llon. Baronet
the Member for Pembroke had adopted a different
course from the Eight Hon. Member fir Tamworth with
respect to alluding to our foreign affairs, he trusted he
should be excused for attempting- very brletly to state
the reason why he divt'ered from the views enter-
tained on the subject by the Right Honourable Baronet.
The Right Hon. Baronet had observed that the war with"
Chine was a great calamity. Now he (Sir G. Staunton)
'considered an v war a great calamity, but the greatest of
WI evils would be an unwillingness on the part of the
' ( ;overnment of the ceuntry to redress its wrongs. The
:Rigiltellon. I4trouet had quoted the opinion of Napoleon
;against the.Governmeut ; but the opinion of Napoleon
rind nut, in his belief; possess much value in connection
6-with klllina.—(Hear, hear.). Napo'eon was, in truth,
tyttielr more a warrior than a statesman, and that was
-proved by the termination of his career in exile. But he
"Would quote :q!,•ainst the opinion of the Frereh Emperor
""that of a higher authority, as would be admitted by lien.
sKembers on both sides of the House—he would quote 1
't'ke authority of the Mike of Wellington, the conqueror
wt. gapoleon, who stated that he considered the war Was
".j..ust and necessary. The results of the war with China
tag,' certainly disappointed the expectations of many—it
had, i,:- some measure, disappointed his own expectations,
~thouidi h,t could not feel much surprised upon the sub-
ket.—{" Hen, hear," from the Opposition Benches.)
-lion. Gentlemen would do him the justice to remember
''
.that he hind before i;tated that he had feared tte struggle
~
~.. woulg be protracted, though he had no doubt as to our
ultimate success. The troth was that our enemies were
Rneoureg,-ed by the divisions among us, and it was to that
cireume ance that the protraction of the war might in
some degree be traced. Had parties in this country been
waited upon the subject, instead of a renewal of hostili-
ee, we might now witness their final termination. At
--A- eeeots, he did not sec anything to blame in the con-
Vrict:-of Ministers, and ho felt satisfied that the interests
elf the country were safe in their hands. He w mid say
"a word on the immediate question then before the House.
Tee Ministers had introduced certain measures fo: the
parpose of raising the revenue, without adding to the
burdens of the people. Now, even though he should
have disapproved as much as lie really approved of the
p they of the Government, he should still think that they
~lied pursued a perfectly constitutional course in deter-
-6 .ning that then-measures should be fully discussed, en I
Joe they should afterwards appeal to the country. Ile
Uiout:therefore give his decided vote against the reso-
lutionlie
. Sir , . :A.MES acknowledged that the policy of the
i
• itinist had succeeded in the Eatt—(Hear, hear)—but
he did of give them any credit for that iiiiecess, as it
might lin atteibuted to chance as much as ne merit.
AV4th regard to the resolution before the House, he etch
that the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tamworth
had, on the erst night of the 4ebate, completely este-
b ished his position, Those facts clearly showed that the
1r sent Ministry had not the pow( r indispeneable to a
Government The Reform Bill had been framed far the
• gotirpoge of exclodieg the Tories from office—it had been
called by the Hon. Member for DubliE gi We idle. Now,
it had happened, by tie iiitstest retribution, that those
olio had hoped to profit by fie Reform Dill had
been signally disappointed ; and that hinder its op:"..4tion
_ the -party opposed to them had e-radually iecreased in
ower. Ho would allude briefly to the pi e^edent of M .
e'Pitt, which differed in many points most distinctly from
- V `,the rent ca,
to
slit night Hon.s
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,
"'had been most conclusively shown by
she Baronet in his openine. speech. The
it wise of Commons, by -passing the India Bill, in the case
of Mr. Pitt, to a cernlFn extent had aseumed OXeCutive j