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London, England, 1841-03-18 00:00:00

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obliged to admit of an absurd mode of evading
by sending slave-grown coffee round the Cape of ,
Here to purify it, and then it came into this country
washed and cleansed from all the stain of slave labour.
Mr. Garnett suggested to him to elucidate the subject by
his own knowledge of its effects in ditletent parts of the
world with which he was concocted as a merchant; but he
thought sue Is a plan was not prudent : he should be. told
he was resking, like the West India planters, to protect
his own interests ; instead of which, his object was to
promote the irter:est of the country at large, by following
out tae true principles of free trade in all their integrity.
--(Applause.) We were told, with a degree of emphasis
which did make its impression, that the increased manufac-
tures of the Continent showed the dangerous state into
which the Government bad allowed this country to be
plunged. Now, he thought i: showed no such thing : it only
showed, that Continental nations being at peace, and increas-
ing their populat'on, and naturally seeking for the means of
employing them, commenced manufacturing, and ho
wished them joy of it. The increase of manufactures on
the Continent afforded no proof of the retrograding of
manufactures here, but only showed that countries at
pesee must find the means of emplcyrueet for their po-
pulation. He concluded by moving the first resolution.
Mr. WILLIAM A TKINSON, in secondieg. it, said, be
had received a letter that morning from a correspon-
dent ih London, on the subject of the sugar duties, from
which he read the following extract:—
" You will observe that the discussion in the Hoots
of Commons last night did not take the turn we ex-
pected. Bet there is much uneasiness on the part of
the British Colonial interests. Some of the principal
Bengal n:erchants have been to Government to repro-
seat the injury to be produced in that country by any
practical admission of %reign sugars for consumption
here; to which we hear the answer was—' Show us that
such injury will arise, and we wi,l pay due attention to
your communicatioc.' Again, the West India interest are
getting up strong memorials, and, 1 believe, intend to
show that a reduction to 20e. on Colonial, and 30s. for
all other sugars, as recommended before the Committee
on Import Duties, would not extend the consumption so
far as to protect the revenue, much less to increase it.
Our own belief still is, if Ministers should have to make
the proposal, they could not carry it against the com.biea-
tion of East and West India interests, and the Anti-sla-
very Society."
If Government listened to particular or individual inte-
rests, th .y would do what was very wrong ; he thought
the Legid attire ought to look to the general welfare of the
country, and IQ appeared there because the subject was
deeply important to the interests of the working classes.
A friend i f his at Pernambuco, a short time ago, made
him a preseet of a small barrel of sugar; and when ho
(Mr. Atkinson) came to see the cost of it, be found that,
although a present, it cost him Bd. per lb.—(Hear, heir)
—whereas if he bad Leen a Dutchman, Geiman, or Bel-
gian, it would not have cost him more than 3d. per lb. He
mentioce I this to Shaw, that our Itbocring cla sea might
get sugar fur V. for which they were paying 91. rer lb.—.
(Hear, hear.) This was a great evil ; and if we could re-
ceive the produce of any country in return for our manu-
factures, it would benefit us ail to a great extent. He felt
so strongly en the subject, that he felt it to be the duty of
every one connected with this large manufacturing dis-
trict, to use his utmost exertions to induce the Legisla-
ture to alter our t .riff; and he should he glad to see the
clergy of all denominations petitioning for this on the
ground and score of humanity alone.—( Applause.)
Mr. WM. GAkNETT, although he bad Urea separated
from the mercantile transactions of this neighbourhood for
some years, set as one who had beer' actively and exten-
sively engaged in tire commerce of this country for a period
of thirty years, he Imp I be should not intrude by offer-
ing some obsery lii ins upon the resolutions and the pro-
ceedieg s of the day.—(Applause.) Ile thought a more
important subject could hardly come becr, the whole com-
mecial community cf the country. II: believed that pre-
viously to the investigations of the Parliamentary Com-
mittee, it was not generally known what was fee real and
true condition of toes system of tariff duties which had
now been in force for some years, and how injuriously
taey were Laming t c industry and commerce of tie
c.urrtty. fl ,vieg, read an extract from tie first part of
the Committee's Repot, which, he said, was now pub-
Hailed in a cheap form, Mr. Garnett said that in 1815 a
most unnatural and unjust system of legislation with refer.
tines to the commerce of this country was introduced, the
avowed object of which was to pronto e and advance the
intere to el the producers of food, without reference
to the consurre:e.—( Great applause.) The effects of
that system were predicted at the time by the most di,tin
guished statesmen of the day ; but such predictions, though
since fo!tinlad, were derided by those for whose advantage
• this system of leo,latim was introduced. And when,
after a burg war, reale coerce led, he rec.sllccted that we
did expe;.eitce a pen )d cf great prosperity, and were re-
minded that ti e feera which had lel to those predictieus
were altegethee unfeunded ; and it was sai ~ that the ef-
feet oft lose laws would be most beneficial to the country.
But this prosperity was during the time that manufactures
were being established in other countries, and it was ire the
very nature of things that at first manufactures tv, i e slow
in dear progre;s. Zr W.'S net that the mischief ha ! not been
esegende.W, but because t l.e evil off•cts had not been ex-
perienced to that t xtent which made it injurious to the com-
merc'al interests, :11 it we seemed then to enjoy prosperity
tine° - this sy,t_,.. The Manel ester Chamber of Commerce
' from time to time peti.inned against the ex‘s,lusion of food ;
other pans of the court-y petitiore 1, and Ca.) effect was
to substitute frr prelnhition a prienissian t ) in .pert ;
but that pernti,si in was so clogged wit'l reorii Cons and
duties, that it was i'.tl._ less obnoxious titan total prohibi-
tion, a-ed this sr te;a continued up to this •heus, oeca-
sioital y, from time to tirm., calsing great derangements
in cur moneary system, and introducing incalculable evils
into th: country.—( Applause. ) He v.euli not touch
farther on this qucsi Jll, which had so musts rgitetod the
country ; he did not v,ish to create agitatica upon any
subjeet, but to come to a unanimous vote, and show the,
LegisLtarc see weee fully sensible of the injury we sus-
tained under the present system of tariff dicks, and to press
upon the Legislature the necessity of calmly deliberating
how far al erations rei4ht be carried out, tTa the benefit
of all classes of her Majesty's subjects.—.(Applause.) The
time was arrived when we should apply ourselves zealously
and determined; to this gees ion, always bearing
in mind the golden rile, to do unto others as no
would they should do unto us. If that principle were
adhered to, we might now le receiving the produce of
otl er countries in exchange for our manufacturea,
wi gout detriment to any existing interests in this country,
which In contended ought to have a frir and reasonable
protection. What, then, was our course ? To retrace
our steps in legislation, and have more regard to the
consumers, eveiaing exclul-ive legislat:on for any particu-
lar party.—( Appliuse. ) After adverting to the emigra-
tion of skilled artisans from this counry, the cause of

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which, he said, it was the duty cf the Legislature to inves-
Cgat.,, Mr. Garnett next askcd—Why do we see the -
sica'-'e-ce men up and .down the country rrady to brez.lt
out into open nbellioo, but because the evil has come to
the home cf every rnal ; Lecstne it was no longer to Le
disgui.ed that other countries had become manuracturers,
more he would say from neceJity than chci e, because we
would not take their produce? Ha felt satisfied that,
under a Let er system, every healthy honmt man, willing
to work, rrigit support his wife and farrily in con-Sortable
subsistence; and, if this could be accomplished; was it
not the b.:st means of geting cf the Guardians of
Poor-law, and of reducing Poor rates? Under a
b2tt 2r system we should, in a great measure, destroy the
necessity of Poor-laws altogether, and g!ve our attention
to those who were at all times objects of distress, the
aged, impotent, infirm, and those who really could not
ma;ntain themselvc,. If that change could Ise brought
A pe pfloaruws
d)
and asked
about by a dill.. rent system cf leghlation, we should hear
no complaining in our streets, hut tee the people united
and happy, and our Gracious Queen reigning ovr a
united,cAt andthe happy
Chartist,p then came e o e
the Borouf brecve to tell him why the meeting was called
C d
Ur the morning, v I[.n .n the working ela ses could not at-
tend it

T 1 e BOROUGIIREEVE said, it was considered better to
can is in the morning. Every gentleman present had,
cloubdo.s, engagements elsewhe e; but the morning was
found t' e must convenient time ; and as long as he had the
hen ,ur c f being ILroughreevo, he should call every publics
meeting i s the morning._.( Applause.)
CAMPBELL tad, that the working classes might now
perceive tat there was no sympathy whatever for them
0
amorgat the middle and upper classes.—(No, no.) He
then entered isto a statement
goods, and the prices for weaving in d;ffeareeenta years;,,r,of the
tending that, as the exports increased, ttksat
the uni :
operatives
working classes got worse.
of the cxportsof
He
said
but were dependent
were not free to get employment,
and villainy of the .
upon the caprice, tyranny, insclen coeteteo!
employerr.
would not permit an one to
y
be
The Cuatrim&N said,
.
use such langu:gc. after protesting against the
proceedings in ti e nsmor
two
dissentient bands.
motion passed with one essi _,
CAMPBELL than
_Eio
us
rinogf
thisat ittnhe.
, rt if be had consulted his per-
fbe working cluFses, and the
Mr. HOLLAND
for-
indisposition of one of big
meetibg ; but Ird
, t, pass o'er, without corning
portance t 81' ° h,,d a grt Gt interest and stake in the
thel'acic preventedno allow
brought them together. It Was about
wad
as one. w
.'s his very strong of ioion upon the sub-
schniladircfnees'virigula''
He
spole, be-
producer, -a
to the
eth aptrepsreensstutriemhe.a had continueu
jftec°e:rtn'i7t7rcelleaxiir.}Pacrdeo that we began to experience a terrible
decline 11 °
ond all
class which often suffered, while
producer, a .
obtained remuneration for hit capital and labour. All
that 51-. Husliisen hod so truthfully prognosticated bad
come to pass ; and, although the vast resources' of our
preucreZT:
wealth had protracted tiltiree, the crisis was now arrived
,hen we must have an alteration, or our commerce would
he fur cur ruined. He had on many occasions spoken
strongly against the present Cern-laws, nor was he ashamed
cf anything he had said ; but be had net said anything
half so strung ms Mr. J D. Hume, who happened to be
a Tory.--( Hear, hear.) He was glad Mr. Gal*tt had
taken up this eitistiort, which was not thoroughO'und_e7" '
stood even in Salford yet. He did not blame thefLeue;
gisla'ute or the Government for the present 11l o and lri,
commerci d I. gislation ; if we, the commeein
fr leo to
manufactuii g interests, let the thing sleep
them for neglect.
yelr, we could not justly ble.tne
in
about two years,
The treaty with Brazil would exptiere
take their sugar and
and we must then either consente ibitory
duties upon our
coffee, or they would lay h
Prour best customers fur cot-
good& —( fle-r. ) Theey were our _ y
i b our merchants, wbo rc-
ton manuf ictures sentl.ollll
return, but who were corn-
ccived sugar and ft
n? bringing these articles to us, who want
pelled, instead ofhemio the Continent to be acid. A :
them, to scodietaian,
in his evidence before the Parlia-
Liverpool gent
Committer,
said, that, instead of sending _toffee
aleatory Comm.
Cape of
Goon Hope, Le would recommend. Ge- .
to tke
-vernntent 49 11° it to be sent three rim's rcuod Ireland.
—( Laughter.
) A gesit'envan in the Manchester Chamber.
of Co—nc
rirec, the other day, had roade, a .cicciaration
.
wl.ieb I.e (Mt. ii oie) knew tr) be true, that mill pro.
Deity now was net worth half what it was a fctv.years ago..
If his (Arr. Hoole's) mil was really to start, be greatly
feared that it would still be for his interest to suspend its

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