The Sun.
London, England, 1847-03-06 00:00:00

71:1E RAILWAY CC )11MISSIONERS BILL.
rit,lir. MTJNTZ presnter. , a petition from the directors
the Iliraringhatn Due
,ley, and Wolverhumpron Rail-
"Y(lempany against ' ~he provisions of this Bill.
I'HE 13”:4 .JA OF SATTARA.
Sir D
v._ E LACY VAS presented rt,
'l46i:tater,
prayi tip; for an inquiry into the cir?um.7.
414[1ces
petition from
attedant. on the dethronement of the Raja or
4ttara,

lard G SPANISH "DEBT.
11 G. "T'2'`lr-riNcK w;..shed to give notice that, onh
elt're,",„n"t- l'e would present a petition from t
tc,ilitzin,,a.n(c)l:i.,diteipunusty,u.sciihinai7an of the Spanish Bond,-
4 debt red
the assistance of the House
rest from the Spanish Crown, in the roalter
sing, a hich they stated was above 7,000,0001. s.er
tat; 111' hieh they alleged was principally due to
PRE J jeers.
r ENT
f ir'NTNI SESSIONS IN IRELAND.
Secret LI3VERIE. said that, seeing the Right Hon. the
hii,tlstrY for Ireland in his
place, he wished to inform
thaa'4t he had se.an in the Dublin Gazette sixteen pu,?-
i4ttis for thr: holding of presentment sessions in
the ;Tit Parta of Ireland. Now, he understood that
.a
‘,ere therelei:
tate fotrl passed !through the House providing a substi-
Itished the Public Works Act passed last session he
e to ask whether those proclamations
thotielide" to authorise those presentment sessionsthe
urtheau co
siTtaf stir
r,ivi..nfropo,uiblic works as well as? for
to the destitute Irish
48°'(1(51:1ERv said, that as the Act which. had
,41/1 " substitute'a for the Public Works Bill had
e hiCal received the sanction of the Legislature,.
tl'iart. 7 not been titre allowed for carrying it into
kiiou -Lk) could assar'e the Hon. Member that the
ta,44i.! wish of the Government was to reduce and. ekxs-
-4.t.i.,,r1 the present system of providing public works
e"atl,-;":/3 possible, consistent with the peace of the
kjr hd the welfare of the people.
t4ll • "UUE wished to know if any order had been
eittiedn
the Irish Government upon the subject?
4; is?-;,130-ETCHERE replied in the affirmative.
gavevEg notice that he should move that
traits b?°11. erk against the compulsory Sunday
primted With the votes.
Lord a 2-10LYITEAD HARBOUR.
the Le'INWON moved for certain returns showing
d
()f by her a the engineer who has been finally apprfovtlie
Pali, Cher Itlajesty's Government, with a copy,
44rses ofe estimated cost of the same, together with the
e°llsal;
_,%uch engineers and nautical men as had been
hlr Al and approved of the same.
"ea Io';4OI3PER stated that these returns had already
""" upon the table of the House.
br, PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND).
P-at- u'AV • lIVERIE wished to know the course to be
by'cork the Government with regard to the public
rate
ago Ireland, If he remembered rightly, a short
14n-ittgo there was a letter addressed by the Lord-
the
-,"eniant to the relief commissioners, suggesting that
84144,1'4c Works should be effectually, but gradually,
P4hli —.:(l* He wished to know if any suspension of the
kre 'rks in Ireland had taken place.
latwe -.4BOUCHERE could only give a general_
11.1 thriatu the question. He had no doubt that some of
the Works had already' been suspended. It was
Ilatillt4l,f of the Government to close as speedily as
„ Jr," system of public works in Ireland.
1-aaj'i,REARS OF RATES (IRELAN.D).POct to
-"a_uNCAN wished to put a question with The-
'eo the Castlebar Union. A letter had that mornlig
14,1,e'reulated, written by Mr. Otway, dated Feb.
for
14'a „a,,t:4ting that two-thirds of the rates iu arrearh r
tt
ait parties. He fart e
ied ,
aerateWre uue .rom so vc
'the tua
!ecuri''es'itY of the Government making advances.. on the
'Net °f these rates. He wished to a.,k it• itaasthe
of tt:°Ti of the Government to make any such advances
Public money, and what steps were to be taken to
fhallre:,tha collection of the rate from the solvent lessors
sit,norn they were due?
goeatiu.• GREY said, that with regard
.to the first
motion ;)11 01 his Noble Friend he had no additiona
tra° give beyond that which was already before the
"rttl'el. "lth regard to the latter part of the questioorn,the
Ni)e refer his Noble Friend to the 20th page
that
Ilk,ee4tl9 Which he had referred, where he would find
*4ll, IPgs had been instituted by the C,missioners
ktrem. 'ilew to the enforcing the psythent o the rates in
4 ,thY the lessor.
the rrEtV''SCOTT wished to know if Lord Lucan had paid
tlellide4 due from him, and if not, whether he would be
Si Qelfrona his right to vote?
a,horar —,',(--atGE GREY said that the Noble Lord to
,41e h-Arl'ut Hon. Member referred was then in Ireland.
Rs Illaced on the table of the House papers in
liability to 1
reYhu!trit of those rategs. pHe (Sir George Grey) had
liklehht, that if the Noble Lord found that he was
4: for those rates, he would at once pay them.
Ass ' P. SCROPE asked it the Right Hon. Gentleman
14„,_4 ware that the Government bad advanced large
h;aadittylie rates not having been paid up regularly, in
an union ?
d the
~'3lr G. GREY said
"a
Papers th-a—t.ahathat, if the. Hon. Member had
‘ttenti d been laid on the table with
tTlisposition to exonerate the rate-payers
i„, on he would have seen that there was not
,ixpense of the Treasury, bututmosta
the
tes rtion would be made ha the collection of the ra_
tt):'ould also appear that there was a power invested in
tl, .Lord-Lieutenant to advance money to prevent h
, of
workhouses, and the distress that would ensue
illin,naeclilenee• The Cavan Union had no particular
for I);it° favour, and would form no espi cial example,
eretk,e Lord-Lieutenant would exercise the same dis-
beeri),„4
with respect to other unions as that which had
kr'ttreised with regard to Cavan.
dia /lUNIE inquired whether there would be
a r
aney,
tobraition, on the part of the Government to pass
`lfin to the effect that no more money should be
'4need for the relief of any union than was obtained
the collection of the rates.
1, Sir G GREY did not quite understand the question,,
d.":', might
remind the Hon. Gentleman that there was
th anct motion on the papers of the House, and when
10,74
tame on for discussion the whole of the details
Ii old naturally be brought under the attention of the
%Ise.

CRACOW.
tr „-r• STUART WORTLEY wished to ask a question
keVLNoble Lord opposite as to whether any arrange-
tilt— 464 been especially entered into with respect to
eonvention between this country and Russia in 1831,
the 'a tab', whether he had arty objection to lay the papers on
tqei
J. RUSSELL—The discussion would be re-
stio on Thursday, when he would then answer the
n.

o SALE OF SPIRITS IN CANTEENS.
lb%
oranthe motion that the House go into Committee on
a'
nee Estimates,
id,h,e"lei LINDSAY rose to move, that an humbleviii
bss be presented to her Majesty, praying that she
itito graciously pleased to direct inquiry to be mad
`r effect that the present canteen system has
gtyppilot",e,ar_,caY ; and whether it would not be advan-
't uisrApline and to the moral improvement of
troops' to prevent the sale of spirituous.
Zl;L:airtae'kna.cantecis troop`,
the precincts or proximity
making this motion, he was only urged
di,;aire to do his duty in that House and to the c_ounetrriy:
meat not net wish to offer any opposition to the G.
Bun the contrary, he thought he could
.throw Iv
ktao4tggestion which might lead to a reduction in out
,these % retlinired for the estimates. It appeared thatie
'antee °L.,45,000/. was derived as rent from t i
„41. %Tin- arl`i, washing the sheets. The total number.s_
qopit.:-, 'including the artillery, in the Brit?
,1744 119,862. Excluding the artillery, t e
"t'ri'ved from washing
v‘
the sheets was 11.896/. ds
as `'ducted from the total sum of 65,7391., ould.,
litts derivable from the canteens the sum of 53,843/.
'''tlilteens were usually let for a period of three years
"ighest bidder, provided he was a person of good
!very harass The tenant had also to pay a fixed sum for
1r hospital%arred menintihe bar
lracvkis,,including also the men in the
out of the barracks, and who
then "copied thebarib barracks except when on duty, and
galled t allowed to go into the canteen. He was also
NI% upon to Pay all taxes, rates, and assessments what-
t4at \,lhe result of this mode of letting the canteene mwoasst,
2(7,1.15." Person who occupied it was obliged to b
the
r his charges. This was not the fault of
e°,l3Mand, nor the fault of the Ordnance or
ate 15
-"niun ut it was the fault of those whose du y
Of :srrcitto bring the the notice of the Board
subject under
„Pou fo,,t,latev,, through the usual and regular channels
"Nem- Purpose. Now, the subject he wished p
*as t 9 bring the otice of the Government
Initi —alit theieucnanetreens spirits were licensed to be
„tititace- as other articles, and the cdonse-
t„‘litati,,,°' that license was the general demo-
h or the men living in the barracks.
q„-"m‘cen man had to give such an enormous rent to
Pay hrernment for the premisies he rented, that to re-
,liliritaTlf he was obliged to lay an extra price on the
~,s"tioCe sold. His object in bringing forward this
i",...tiserattilvall that spirits, as an article of
affairs ',Willi in these canteens, might be done
-44ir "'""- He had some experience in military
tetruiBt,' an he invariably found that the young
and th 'was seduced to these places by the old soldiers,
4Perineae°llsequence was that evil habits were gradually
of utetili,;,."llced, and the young soldier in a short time
th, a confirmed drunkard. He, therefore, complained
facilities which the canteen presented for this pur-
-B,que;tiits Proximity to the barracks, and its placing the
'-*rerr,'" temptation constantly before his eyes. When
thelt-hdAent first constructed eanteens, he admitted that
11.4r-etilB4, gocal object in view ; and as somebody must
Z`izin‘ted tPhr("lt the various articles sold there, they con-
° did they might as well have the profit as any one else.
'eras "uink that the distribution of spirits in the can-
reor, was Most objectionable, and there would be many
_oadnesevenfa,villgs' banks warrants, and warrants for good
issued, if it was checked. It was perhaps no
*hiol ' Out there was an order in existence
Of gave
r to the commanding officer the power
where rioting the sale of spirits in canteens,the .
he may deem it advisable from the ill conduct of
shif,e. But this was a privilege of which they never
The e' theniselves, as they• did not like to exercise it.
tlifiee,eanteen men gave large sums to obtain the
metro and
there were some canteens in the
ter, Poenlis where the average expenditure of every
nth,rt:l exceeded tirten shillings per month ;
houw varied in the amountsor money, but it never was.
fel 8,, ten or eleven shillings. Tii,, canteen was a fruit
ttly-oercra 01, crime, I and ninth of the irregularity and
/f t f discipline that prevailed might be traced to it.
tht7 m 4 discipline were to be found iut a state of drunkenness,
Ap0411,?!1-eoMinissioned offir,er dare not lay a hand
of s,Tni,r but must wait until a police-officer or a file
sta.,o`.',Tes me to his afisistance. The acts of in-
r,,,rl;'a oinationca generally h anpened at roll-call f,r the
e/lot;ssg Parade, when the eii2,n were in a state of druids
oht of 8.4,1 assaulted their superiors. Now ho found that
in the 342 corporeal punishments which had taken plan-
stillordainr°37 last year, 139 of them were for acts of in-
for druyittloa connected, with drunkenness, and 70 more
ens alone, faking a total of upwards of 200