The Sun.
London, England, 1824-03-12 00:00:00

PARLIAMENT,

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n "SE OF LORDS, MARCII 11.
Lor GOIVE
0 e Cid ty A Presented a Petition from the Freemasons of
County of Limerick, praying that the Act against
Secret Societies might not he extended to them.
The Earl of tiIiAFTESBURY presented a Petition from
Tewkesbury, pray
the West India Negroes.
praying for the amelioration of the condition of
Bi 11,
The Irish Church Rates Bill, and the Annual Indemnity
were read a third time AUST and passed.
RIAN *
The Earl of LIVERPOOL havingLOAN moved the Order of the
Pay for reading the Austrian Loan Bill a third time,
Lord HOLLAND rose to make the observations of which he
had given notice. He was prepared to acknowledge, as he had
already done on a former occasion, th the of money to be
Paid by the. Government of Austria, though less sum
than the coun-
try. was.entitled to, was more than the public expected. There
had been considerable temper and some management in getting
even this surri on the part of his Majesty's Ministers ; and on
that of the rmperial creditor there had been, not generosity—it
fscarcely rose into honesty—he would call it forbearance and
ood "feeling in granting co much. He was ready, therefore,
acquiesce in the present Bill, but not in the preamble by
which, it was introduced. He did not stand up so much as
an opponent to the Bill, as to its phraseology. He did not
understand why Parliament should be thrown into a state of
:h Perplexity by the wording of its own measures. He knew
at the generality of ankind attributed a nice sense of
?ionour to people in a high situation, and it might be natural
that some effort should be made to disguise from the eyes of his
imperial Majesty the nature of the transaction which he was
''eknowledging to posterity. But that attempt went too far :
the convention was not clear. In the whole of it there existed
no statement of the sum due to this country. The Noble Earl
then alluded to Mr. Horne Tooke's researches respecting the
e,tymology of words, and his ingenious endeavour to apply
Ylerrito metaphysics and to draw from a barren and sandy soil
fruits Which it could not be hoped to produce. In the whole
of the present Bill, he did not find the word Debt, but his Im-
ee...
nn al Majesty had brought himself to say that he would pay.
N w, how he could make up his mind to call such a transaction
payment, was - more than he (Lord H.) could understand.
followed Mr. Horne Tooke's example,
Perhams he had
into the • • looked
derivation of the word , npe y," and taken it in the
tft.reonmse
tiTlheich agreed best with his no-4mi, Some made it come
the first .word, Page:, -a village,.
because all payments came, in
instance, from the inhabitants of villages, and the cul-
tivators of-the soil; " Pagoruminc o la, vectigailibus subjecti."
That however:was not the sense likely to suit
the Imperial cre-
ditor.re Otheri made it proceed from the words Paciecor, Pac-
k_ , because people wno paid completed a. bargain-. Neither was this likely fo be the Imperial interpretation. But there
rwere some who derived it from Pacare, to pacify, and it ap-
ared very probable that his Imperial Mtijesty •might have seditin that sense ; not as the payment of a debt,,but to pacify
1.1.1 e brawlers of the English Parliament, by giving about one-
eighth of what he owed. He had heard said, it with certain
is_neer.3 of contempt; that the Emperor of Austria
.required no
i:Ting in his dominions, but only good subjeess-":
tit ' they
men who
ogre'! nothing, and were ready to plunder and to fig
ordered. But the advantage of finding such a den.
tuM must bays- Shown him the utility of men of know.