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LONDON:
WEDNESDAY, MAY 12, 1841.

In the Lords, the Arms (Ireland), and the Slave
Compensation Bills were read a second time.
After receiving petitions, their Lordships, on the mo-
tion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, appointed a Com-
mittee to inquire into the rate of interest on promissory
notes, with a view to illustrate the operation of the Act
of 4th William IV.

Another smart and most pleasant discussion on the Corn-
laws ensued, which serves to keep their Lordships' mind:
alive to the subject, and make the public more and more
acquainted with the matter. It was proved by some re-
turns, which the Earl of RADNOR quoted, that Scotian('
had, for some time, been an importing country, and that
the supplies from Ireland were gradually diminishing.
We learn from the testimony of the Earl of GLENGALI
that the consumption of bread in Ireland has much in-
creased with the change of consumption from spirits to
tea.

Lord ASHBURTON deprecated the discussion, but made
a longer speech than any other Peer. The Noble Lord ha:,
always so many opinions to amend, so many matters to
explain and rectify, that he must speak at great length.
The Duke of WELLINGTON wished a notice to be giver
of such discussions, and quoted ADAM SMITH against free
trade in corn.

Earl FITZWILLIAH very properly recommended th,
Nuble 'Duke to refresh his memory by a re-perusal oi
the " Wealth of Nations." If he follow the advice, wt
hope it will be to comprehend its principles, as well as to
snatch up a sentence or two of its details.

Before Seven their Lordships adjourned till Thursday
In the Commons, after a great number of petitions ha(

been presented, many of which relate to the Impor
Duties and the Corn-laws, IMr. EASTHOPE, supposing
there would be no opposition, moved for leave, according
to his notice to bring in a Bill to abolish Church-rate:.
and to make other provisions for the maintenance 01
churches and chapels.

Lord JOHN RuisELL assented to the motion, declaring
that he -should vote against the second reading of tilt
Bill, if the mode of making provision for repairing.
churches were not proper.
Dr. NICHOLLS, however, said it was not fit such a Bil!
should be introduced altering the law, and he moved a,
an amendment, that the Order of the Day for resumin{
the adjourned debate be read.

Sir R. braids seconded the amendment ; and aftc
a few words from Lord JOHN RUSSELL and Mr.
HUME, Mr. EASTHOPE withdrew his motion, giving no-
tice to renew it, on Tuesday week. We approve of Bill
being stopped in limine, which a majority is resolved shal
not pass, because to introduce them is a mere waste o:
time and expense ; what the Dissenters, however, ma:
think of this sturdy out-and-out denial of justice i
another consideration. They must take care, on a gene-
ral election, to vote for nobody but determined opponents
of Church-rates.

The House, after transacting some routine business.
resumed the adjourned debate.

Mr. MACAULAY began, feeling himself called on b,
speak by the observations made last night by the Hon.
Member for Newark. He was not then in his place, and
had now no other feelings but satisfaction at the term,
used by the Hon. Gentleman. With respect to the laxity o!
principle of which the Ministers were accused, he coul,l
not understand it, for a great part of our trade was car-
ried on with slave countries, and the Tories, like him-
self, would resist all attempts to put a stop to tha.
trade. The Right Honourable Gentleman contentet
himself with a short speech, in which he vindi
cated the principle of the measure, and which h,
obviously would not have . made but for the allusion o
Mr. GLADSTONE to his father the evening before.
We must pass over Sir G. CLERK, Mr. WARD, Sir I:.
INGLIS, Mr. C. WOOD—who made, however, an excellent
business-like speech in favour of the Ministers' measure— --
and Mr. GOULBURN, whose several speeches container
nothing very remarkable, to come to the speech of
Sir GEORGE GREY, which was by far the most re-

markable speech of the night, and perhaps tit,.
best debating speech of the SeS.sion. The Right Hon.
Gentleman began by nailing down Mr. GOULBURN to al:
admission which, after three nights' cautious silence, he
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on his side of the House had been clear and
in avowing their principles. The Hon. Member fo.rsthlet
Lin-
colnshire, with that straightforwardness for which h
was distinguished, had openly avowed that he defended the
sugar duties as an outwork of the Corn-laws, and no
doubt many of the Opposition adopted his views. Th(
Right Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets, with that
sincerity which belonged to him, had opposed the
Ministers on the ground that it was wrong in any way
to encourage slavery while it was possible to procure
the commodities from any other source at whatever cost.
Which of these principles did the Hon. Gentlemen op-
posite embrace ? They had been silent on the subject ;
and the Hon. Member for Newark had said he did not
come there_ to discuss principles. So it seemed ;
but at one time he did elevate himself, to
the. height of the principle of the Right Honour-
able Gentleman, but it afterwards turned out
that he held to the moral principle only
when sugar was at 565. per cwt., and that his high moral
principle vanished when sugar was at 365., and then the
expediency of obtaining a supply even from slave coun-
tries was admitted. The Right Hon.-Baronet was ex-
tremely happy, too, in exposing the sham humanity.of the
Honourable Member for Newark and his friends,
which- squared with their pecuniary interest,
for the Honourable Member was now an East • India
proprietor: and, therefore, a defender of East India
as well as West India .monopoly. Many gentlemen,
too, the Right Hon.. Baronet said, who were loud in de-
claiming againkt, the introduction of slave-grown sugar,
were themsolveVAerWg, profit from slav„.
formed banks and made advances to slave coinitrie", and
encouraged slavery. They objected to Brazilian sugar, but