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London, England, 1847-03-08 00:00:00

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day by Lieut. Gabriel Johnson, for Captain Thomas Grum& DEPUTA TI ON' • FROM -THE ' f 111 Of
She is to be employed on surveying service in the blgaiter- 1 PARTY TO LORD JOHN RUSSELL.
ranean.
• I Pursuant to previous arrangement, the result of a corre-
' The Mariner was docked yesterday to have her copper ' spondence between Lord John Russell and Lord Monteagle,
cleaned. She will be taken out of dock to day, and on Mon- •
Mont-
ilay will go into Barnoool, to have her compasses adjusted, a deputation from the Irish party, consisting of Lord
eagle, the Right Hon. Frederick Shaw, M.P., Mr. George
-prior to sailing for the coast of Africa.
' Alexander Hamilton, M.P., Mr. Edward Grogan, M.P., and
The Peteref packet, is haying her defects made good, and m
•
will not be out of the heeds of the dockyard till the end of Anthony Lefroy, M.P., waited upon the Prime Minister
next week. atrins official residence, Downing-street, on Saturday last, for
Mr. Alexander Leg, first engineer, and Mr. W. H. J. the purpose of submitting to his Lordship certain resolutions •
1 adopted at a meeting of Peers and Members of the House of
Newberry, third engineer, of the Avenger, steam-frigate,
I Co mons connected with Ireland, condemnatory of the pro-
have been dismissed the service, for neglect of duty in letting ! pad-al
the water our of one of the bailors, thereby seriously injuring it.-law, as regards the extension of out- door
, new poor . ,
able-bodied labourers, the assessment
H.M.S. Cleopatra, 26, Captain Wyvill, has been spoken ' relief to the destitute .
with in the Channel. She is from the Cape of Good Hope n unions at large, instead of electoral districts, and the
station, and has landed her mails and dispatches at Penzance. , powers intended ,
to be conferred on relieving officers.
H.M.S. QUEEN, 110.—We have frequently had occasion Lord John Russell
informedreceived the deputation most graciously.
to notice the smart and seamanlike activity of the crew of tation from party .
Lord MONTEAGLE the. Noble Lord that the depu-
this splendid ship, under the able command of Capt. Sir the Irish waited upon him for the purpose
Henry Leeke, K.H. To the instances we have b fore given . -
, ot hrinaing under his consideration and that of Government
we have now to add two others, alike honourable to the officers . a series of resolutions,
adopted at a meeting of Peers and
and ship's company, and to the navy in which they serve. A .I Members of Parliament connected with Ireland, and subse-
man need not rank very high in nautical knowledge to un- 1 Leen y approved and signedby many
I tl' noble lords and
derstand that the "fitting out" of a frigate is no small per- absencein ons towts or other unavoidable circumtanches, were
W.. e to attend the meeting. Those resolution has ap-
and method of proceeding, it must be a matter involving
Pendell to them the signatures of sixty-four Peers and for!)---
not only much confusion, but a corresponding amount of three Membersof the House of Parliament who
time. 'We shall see how the officers and crew of the Queen res. eetibih - , , t
Poor butßeliii'Bili firmly protested against the permarrene
regard such a " piece of business." They commenced their
Noble Lordthenproposed to be enacted for Ireland.
duties in reference to the Tyne, 26, at a quarter before 12
o'clock on FrWay, and on Saturday last at 2 P.M. she was ready read the resolutions, which were as fol-
lows :
for sea, and the first cargo of meal went off to her for Ireland. e That any abandonment at thepresent of the system of
The Portland, 50, was commenced on Monday morning, electoral .divisious, by which the, oor-law assessments' of
Ireland is generally regulated,
at seven o'clock, and they bent s'ils by five
forp the purpose of substi-
tuting the larger divisions of unions, appears to usa to be
Cclock ! Now, such expedition as this deserves more
ir,,agaesmleens stenoifng estates.tliea motivesnthe fora
than an ordinary paragraph. It shows not only what might fraughtand e
nli
enlightened done, but actually what is, which is infinitely more satis-ittehn edda danger,
factery generally speaking,—it shows 00, what thoroughly improvement in the condition of the occupying tenantry, and
good, officer-like management can be toopucti, e of, for we also lessening the means of administering relief with that
consequentliberal
have the greater pleasure in referring to this subject from discrimination and economy which are perfectly compatible
our knowledge of the system pursued on board. The lash with real. charity and benevolence.
is completely at a discount, the punishments are always mild "That a departure from the permanent system becomes
and always rare, everything goes on quietly and effectively, the more fatal if applied to the out-door relief of the able-
because, from the Captain to the most inferior officer, the bodied labourer, because such relief is, of all modes of ap-
orders are wisely given, and steadily, and firmly seen exe- plying the principles of a poor-law, the one which requires
cuted. The kind, but just example of the Captain is not the greatest care and caution, to prevent it from leading to
lost upon the other officers, nor is their consistent demeanour consequences dangerous to property, subversive of social
without its legitimate result upon Jack. We must not order, and ultimately injurious to the best interests of the
close this, without stating that the Lords Commissioners of labouring classes.
the Admiralty have in the strongest terms of approbation, "That the principle of giving out door-relief to the able-
conveyed their sense of the singular activity displayed by bodied labourer of Irelands has been condemned by
,the
the officers and erew of the Queen, on the occasions we have various parlimentary committees and commissions as well
referred to. ' as by the public officers appointed to consider this subject,
In Harbour—Queen, 110, Captain Sir H. Leeke, ICH., and that the experience of the last twelve months, by which
with the flag of Admiral Sir J. West, K.C.8.; Caledonia, it has been shown how relief, even though accompanied
120, Captain M. H. Dixon, with the flag of Rear-Admiral with work, has interfered with ordinary agsactilturil labonr,
Sir John Louis, Bart.; Mariner; Volage; Avenger, and and endangered the future production of food for the
Col:fiance, steam-vessels; Peterel, packet; Sylph and Net- people, demonstrates conclusively how much more fatally
ley, tenders; and Constitution, Brazilian frigate. a system of gratuitous out-door relief to the'able-bodied
In Barnpool—Recruit. labourer will produce and perpetuate the sanie 'lamentable
Wooewictr, Matzen 6.—Vice-Admiral Sir Charles Adam, consequences.
K.C.8., Commodore Lord John Hay, C. 8., Lords of the Ad- e That these resolutions are intended to apply exclusively
miralty ; Captain Ellice, Controller of Steam-machinery; to the permanent laws propose to be enacted, and-not to'the
and Captain Sir William Symonds, Surveyor of the Navy, temporary measures which the present calamity may render
visited Woolwich Dockyard to-day, and were received by it expedient to enact,
Commodore Sir James G. Bremer, K.C.B. and K.C.H. ; " That our Chairman be instructed to present these reso-
Superintendent Lieutenant Fowler, and Mr. Dyer, Secretary ; lotions to the Peers and Members of Parliament connected
Captain Beatson, R.E., in charge of works; Mr. Lang, with Ireland, who have been unable to attend the meeting,
master-shipwright; Lir. Read and Mr. Chatfield, assistants requesting that such of them as may approve of these reso-
to the master- shipwright; Mr. Lloyd, chief engineer ; Mr. lutions may return them with their signatures affixed, with
Atherton, assistant to the chief engineer; Mr. Jenkins, store- the view that the whole should be submitted to her Majesty's
receiver ; Mr. Elson, master-attendant at her Majesty's Government for their most serious consideration."
dockyard here; Mr. Miller. of the firm of Miller and Raven- ASSENTED OR SIGNED BY
hill; and Mr. Smith, inventor of the screw-propeller. Leinster De Vesci Bateson, T.
Their Lordships arrived at two o'clock, and shortly after Waterford Doneraile ' Barron, H. W.
proceeded to the Amphion steam-frigate, at present in the Headfort Liffdrd Chichester, J.
east dock, opposite the blacksmiths' shop, and, having de- Counghans O'Neil Coote, C. H.
scended the steps leading to the bottom of the dock, ex- Westmeath Avonmore Conolly, H.
amined the stern part, where the screw-propeller, 15 feet in Ormonde Lorton Cole, H.
diameter, is fitted. Their Lordships, on coming up from the
--- Beresford Chapman, B.
bottom of the dock, went on board the Amphion, and a poi, Fingall Gort Corbally, M. E.
tion of the crew, under the command of Lieutenant Sibbald, Shannon Gnillamore Darner, G. Dawson
manned the capstan, and raised the powerful screw-pro- Mornington ---- Fitzgerald, E. B.
peller from its position at the bottom to the level of the Arran De Ros French, F.
maid deck of the vessel. This is effected through a well cut Courtown Dunsany Ferguson, R. A.
in the stern, to admit of the screw-propeller being entirely Howth Farnham (for3d resolution)
detached, and taken on deck when necessary, er when Al oun teash el Riversdale Grogan, Edward
it is desirable, to make the vessel depend upon her can- (for resolutions 3, Kilmaine Grattan, Henry
vacs alone, without the aid of steam. Their Lordships 4, and 5) Clonbrock Gore, W. O.
appeared to think it would be advisable to raise the screw- En niskil I: n Rossmore Gore, W. R. 0.
propeller about 6 feet higher than it was raised during their Ern, Cremorne Hatton, V. F.
visit, which may be easily effected by raising the supports of D,,art Crofton (for 3d, 4th, and sth
its great weight to allow more space for working the blocks Cloninel Wallscourt resolution)
by which it is raised. On the screw-propeller being again Clare Clarnia Hamilton, Geo. A.
let down to its working position, their Lordships descended Leitrim Castlemaine Hamilton, J. H.
to the bottom of the dock, and held a long conversation Lucan Downes Hamilton, Claude
with the heads of the departments on improvements which Castlestewart . Templemore Lefroy, A h
the working of this invention would admit of. Their Lord- nt ony
Donoughmore Carew Maxwell, J. P.
ships went on board the Amphion a second time to examine Caledon De Freyne Martin, Thomas
the engines and boilers, and the mode in which the axle of Limerick
the screw-propeller is adjusted, with themanner in which it Stuart de Decies Newry and biome
Clancarty Blayney
is connected and disconnected, and altogether remained at boss, O'Brien, Cornelius
the Amphion upwards of an hour and a half. Monteagle of O'Brien, John
Charleville Brandon O'Ferrall, R. M.
From the Amphion their Lordships proceeded to visit the Pantry
Royal Albert, of 120 guns, and Mr. Lang conducted their ----.- Shirley, E. P.
Gleneall Adare Shirley, E. J.
Lordships under the larboard aide of this spleituid vessel, •
Stradbroke Bernard
to show them the strong manner in which the oak planking Shaw, Frederick
Dunraven
was attached to the frame. Their Lordships then went on Clements Stuart, Villiers
Ranfurley Acton W. Taylor
board the Royal Albert to witness the progress she is Gormanstown ArchbOld 'J. E.
, it Tuite, H. M.
making ; the cross-beams of the orlop deck being nearly Massarene Archdall, Mervyn Verner, W.
half laid, and they give an appearance of great strength, Middleton Brooke, A. B. White, Henry
owing to the massive timber required for the breadth Southwell Butler P. S.
of beams in a vessel of the magnitude of the Royal Lord Monteagle handed Lord John Russell a copy of the
Albert. Their Lordships subsequently visited the Terrible resolutions, and in doing so, said that since the meeting of
steam-frigate in the basin, where she is fitting with Captain the Irish party at which they had been adopted, the Noble
Smith's paddle-box boats, and a number of artificers and Lord announced his intention of amending the Poor Relief
others are employed 'upon her to make her ready for sea. Bill in some respects conformable to the suggestions thrown
The Terrible is under the charge of Lieutenant Murray ; out in both Houses of Parliament. Those amendments had
Captain Woodford J. Williams, her commander, being en- been printed, and one of them went the length of altering
gaged in charge of the Odin steam-frigate, with provisions the liability as to payment of the rate, and proposing to
for Ireland. Their Lordships remained at the dockyard place the charge, up to a certain amount on the electoral
until 5 o'clock, when they left by the west gate on their district ; but if the charge should exceed 2s. 6d., in the
return_ to town. pound, on the year, that then, and in that case, and when it
exceeded the amount, it should be charged to the union at
large. The amendment, so far as it went, was an improve-
ment on the original determination of Government, but he
could not, in the words of their first resolution, regard any
abandonment, at the present period, of the system of electoral
districts otherwise than as fraught with danger and calcu-
lated to lessen the motives fns a libevalsand enlightened ma-
nagement of estates.
Lord JOIIN RUSSELL said, that in connexion with this sub-
jr ct he had a great number of representations made to him.
Public opinion in Ireland appeared very much divided on the
subject; some persons were desirous that the entire expense
incurred under the Relief Act, should be thrown on the elec-
toral divisions; others thought a uniform system of rating
over the entire union was the most equitable course; and a
third section advocated the plan which the Government
after a great deal of consideration had determined unon pro-
posing.
Mr. Shaw, Mr. Grogan, and Mr. G. A. Hamilton supported
the views put forward by Lord blonteogle, and maintained
that an out-door system of relief to the able-bodied was alto-
gether inapplicable to the requirements of Ireland. Their
resistance was principally limited to the principle of oat-
dopr relief, which they thought would be ruinous to their
property and most demoralising to the people of Ireland.
The resident landlords had subscribed, and would continue
to subscribe to benevolent objects to the utmost of their
ability. They had not the slightest objection to any ex-
tension of the workhouse system that might be considered
necessary. They would cheerfully support, and they had
already done so, any proposition for additional workhouses
to provide for the reception and maintenance of the poor,
upon the distinct understanding that the workhouse test
was strictly adhered to ; but seeing the evils which bad
arisen from out-door relief in England, and knowing how
they would be magnified in Ireland under a similar system,
and how pernicious would be the consequences to the great
bulk of the population, they came forward to remonstrate
with the Government, and to advise against the pursuing a
course of legislation
which,
as regarded this particular mode
of relief, was certain to produce results long to be regretted,
and difficult, if not impossible, to be remedied.
Lord Joni; RUSSELL said he had heard the resolutions
read by the Noble Lord, and the various arguments which
the deputationists put forward in support of their views.
He mould take an early opportunity of submitting for the
consideration of Government the statement to which the
numerous array of signatures was appended, and there
was no doubt that it would receive all that attentive de-
liberation to which any document coming from so influential
a body of Irish noblemen and gentlemen, on a subject deeply
connected with the bestiinterests of their country, was emi-
nently entitled. He did not mean to express any opinion
whatever on the resolutions of the Irish Peers and Members
of Parliament, but he repeated, what he had before said else-
where, that the opinion daily gained ground, not only in this
country, but in Ireland, that the distress to which the people
of that country may be reduced, even in ordinary years,
ought to give them a claim upon the property of Ireland—
such a claim as the people of England had upon the property
of England in times of great distress, and that there should
be legal provision made for relieving the destitute in the
workhouse when the workhouse was not full, and out of the
workhouse when it was full. Some ,of the suggestions
i which the deputationists had made, suggestions ot detail
in the practical working of the measure, they would find
had been in some degree anticipated in the amendments
which he announced the other evening in the House of Com-
mons when moving the committal of the Bill pro f°rma.
evil--if
If they were only legislating to meet a temporary
there were no serious apprehensions of a futureunder-
stand recurrence
of the calamity they had all to deplore—liecould
the country
the solitude a those who desired to save
from the burden which out-door relief to the able-bodied
would not only how
entail; but the question now was,
afford temporary relief to the Irish people,but
they were to
how was starvation to be provided against, and how were
the inhabitants
of the sister country to be placed ire
such their
a position as to preclude the necessity of _
appealing to England for aid in a season of distress. The
Noble Lord then briefly adverted to the safeguard throws'
round the Bill for the permanent extension orthe poor-law
in Ireland, by the reconstruction of the boards ofguardians
d by
and the increase of ex officio members,o hi
and
m conclude
would be duly
stating that the resolutions presented t
considered by her Majesty's Ministers,
but that he could not
alteration in the Bill
pledge himself to recommendfurther
than had already been effected.
The deputation having expressed their acknowledgments
to Lord John Russell for his courtesy, and thanked him for
the attention with which he had heard their statements,
withdrew.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
HUNTING APPOINTMENTS.
Findon• hds., Tues., Parham 'Park ; Thurs., Nipping
Thorns ; Sat., Piecom be— 11.
Wheatland hds., Tues., Lound Coppice ; Fri., Cound-101.
Herefordshire hda.,Xies., Village ; Fri., Tin
Hill.

Ludlow hds., Tues., Wigtnore Rolls ; Fri., Orleton Corn-
mon-10.
United Pack, Wed., Mainstone Wood-9.
Earl of Harewood's lads., Mon., Kirk Deighton ; Wed.,
Bilton Banks; Fri., Bickerton Bar-14.
Holderness lids., Mon., Tickton ; Tues„ Beverley Queen's
Gate Tolibar ; Thurs, Burton Constable; Sat., Wailer Hall.
Cheshire hds., Mon., Warningham Village; Wed., Booth's
Obelisk; Thurs., Duddon Heath; Sat., Sutton t infold-11.
Sir W. W. Wynn's hds., Tues., Iscoyd ; Wed., Wynnstay ;
Fri., Nescliff; Sat., Holt-10%.
Montgomeryshire hds., Tues., Cock Inn, Forden ; Fri.,
Kerry.
Mr. Trelawney's hds., Tues., Train Brake ; Fri., Plym
Bridge.
Mr. Deacon's hrrs., Wed., Roborough ; Sat., Lamberton
Green-10.
Suffolk lids., Tues., Pakenham-street ; Fri., Dalham
Baron Rothschild's 'stghds., Thurs., Aston Clinton.
Sir C. Constable's stghds., Wed.. onistan-11%.
Bedale hds., Wed., Camp Hill; Fri., Streatlam Village-11.
Essex and Suffolk lids., Tues., Bradfield-street; Fri., Dal-
ham Hall-10i.
V.W.H., Tues., Three Magpies; Thurs., Wroghton; Sat,
Eastcoart Mouse.
Berkshire hds., Wed., Fyfield Tree; Fri., Buscot Park.
Mr. Brand's hds., Fri., Coleman Green-10i.
Cleveland hds., Thurs., Osburn's Rush-10
Mr. Theobald's staghds., Wed., Quy ; Fri., Eight-mile
Ditch.
Devon hds., Thurs, Sandy Gate-11.
Essex Union hds., 'Wed., Beckingham Hall ; Sat., South-
minster.
Mr. Drake's hds., Tues., Soulderon Gate; Thurs., Edgcot
Village ; Sat., Byfield Tollbar.
Lord Parker's hds., Tues., Theme Park; Fri., Farley.
F. B. lids., Wed., Tresillian Bridge; Fri., Bishop's Wood
Earl Fitzwilliam's hds., Wed., Gadden Windmill; Fri.
B) them Tollbar-10.
Badsworth lids., Tues., Barnsdale-bar ; Thurs., Askern ;
Sat., Brierley-10.
Lord Yarborough's hds., Wed., Newsham Lodge; Fri..
Crosby Village-11.
Lord Redesdale's hds., Wed., Eyford; Fri., New Barn ;
Sat., Ensham Hall.
Sir Tatton Sykes's hds., Wed., Belman, Stamford-bridge,
and Helmsley ; Fri., Scampston House —lOl/2.
Haydon hds., Wed., Causburn House; Sat., Lough Green.
Oakley lids., Thurs., Chicheley Hall; Sat., Milton Mill
—1,4 to 11.
Mr. Horndon's lids., Thurs., Lifton Park-10&.
Hurworth hds., Tues., Croft Bridge; Sat., Leven Bridge
—lO%.
Mr. S. Lowndes' hds., Wed., Drayton Cross Roads ; Sat.
Twnmile Ash-11.
Puckeridge lids., Wed., Peverils; Sat., Layston-10%.
Raby lids., Wed., Hartforth ; Fri., Hamsterley-11.

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS.
(From the Votes and Proceedings of the HOUR.' eftningto,
NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL-OFFICE.

SATURDAY MARCH 6.
The following Railway Bills are appointed to be read a
second time:—

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10.
Edinburgh and Glasgow.
Wexford and Valencia (Killarney to Valencia).

FRIDAY, MARCH 12.
Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton (No. I—Exten-
sion and Amendment).

FEVER IN LlVERPOOL.—Government ought at
once to be moved to erect enormous sheds in Ireland, where
as in barracks, the destitute poor may have shelter and
warmth, in good air. All paupers leaving Ireland for Eng-
land should be told that they will be immediately liable to be
sent back again by the parochial authorities of Liverpool,
Bristol, &c. ; and back they should go if they came and re-
quired relief at our expense. We have no right to sit still
and let pestilence walk in amongst us. At this moment the
progress of the fever in the cellars and garrets of Liverpool is
most alarming. The first flush of warm weather will spread
disease and death into hundreds of streets. The filthy state
in which the poor people arrive, and the shocking dark damp
dirty places in which they herd—as many as 30 in a cellar—
are the most certain constituents of malignant fever; and
deeply shall we suffer in a few weeks by the loss of many of
our valued townsmen and towns-women, if the evil now
growing around us be not stayed.—Liverpool Mercury.
It has been currently stated that the King of the
Belgians, who has been staying at Paris for the last week,
would proceed to England with a view bf restoring a more
cordial feeling between the Courts of France and England.
Several very ingenious comments have been expended in
discussing the affairs to be settled, and the mode of arranging
them to everybody's satisfaction, as if his Majesty could not
pay a visit of friendship to his royal relatives without some
deep political design. All speculation, however, will be at
an end by the announcement, which we believe we can vouch
for, that his Majesty is not expected in England at present,
and that he did not contemplateextending his visit this time
beyond Paris, whence he will return to his own dominions.
DESTRUCTIVE FIRE AT CLEuKuNwELL.—Yester-
day morning, at three o'clock, a fire broke out at 22, Amwell-
street, Clerkenwell, in the occupation of Mr. L. Talus,
lisher. It commenced in the lower part of the house, and
,
was discovered by the police-constable on the beat An in-
stant alarm was given, and after a deal of trouble the inmates
were aroused, and happily effected their
, escape in safety.
The engines were early at the scene, no time was lost in
setting them to work, but the flames continued to progress,
and at one time the residence of Mr. George Cruikshank, the
artist next door, was in great danger. The firemen, however,
laboured until nearly five o'clock, when they at length sub-
dued the fire. By that time the whole of the back portion
of the house .was consumed, and the front severely injured.
The two adjoining houses, in the occupation of Mr. George
CTrhueickorisgiu of hank. and Mr. Everard, have sustained trifling injury.
the outbreak is tutkuown.

THE LATE ROBBERY AT TILE CATHERINE WHEEL, IN TAZ
BOROUGH.
William Barfield, the porter, who was con-
VlC:led on Saturday, at the Central Criminal Court, of robbing
Ur. Skipp of 3001., in bank-notes, was sentenced to six
months' imprisonment.
HEALTH OF ME. O'CONNELL.—There is no doubt
but that the health of Mr. O'Connell has been muck affected
since his arrival in town. For a few days the Hon, and
Learned Gentleman was exceedingly ill, but at no time did
his illness assume a dangerous character. He is, however, in
an extremely weak state, but his medical advisers have
every confidence that a cessation from all political excite-
ment, and a change of air, will ensure a perfect restoration of
his health. In accordance with previous arrangements made
on the subject, Mr. O'Connell left the British Hotel, Jermyn-
street, at eleven o'clock yesterday morning, accompanied by
his son, Mr. J. O'Connell, en route for Hastings, where he
intends to remain for some time. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman will, it is understood, pay a visit to the south of
France previous to his return to Ireland. It is to be hoped
that by a suspension of all excitement, and. a change of
scene, the result so confidently anticipated by the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman's medical advisers will be insured.--.-
Sunday Times.
We regret to hear that Captain Frederick Wood
died at his residence in Southsea, from rapid consumption,
,
on
Saturday
last, aged forty-eight. He was commander of
.
the R.,yal George yacht, in which her Majesty visited Soot-
' land in S. pteniber, 1842, when he received his post rank.
lie was formerly senior lieutenant of the Belvil.ra frigate,
' an,: aft, r that commander of the Implacable, 72, with Cap-'

tain Harvey.
Vt Ides 'era of I Due Foscari (that is in active pre-
paration at her Majesty's Theatre) has been very suc-
cessful at Rome. All the artistes who performed in this
opera were much applauded, and especially Madams
Montenegro, why has created quite a sensation.