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been only lately adopted in Ireland, but from which, he
thought the Douse had a right to anticipate every suc-
ces. These stations had been erected in different parts
d s
of the coast, here " the takes " were the most shun • ant; and where, therefore, the fish could not be dis-
posed of in their fresh state. There had been already
erected six staiions in that country, and the success
which had attended them, was beginning to attract the
attention of private speculators. Only that day a letter
was put into his hand, announcing the fact that a
vessel had arrived on the 'west coast of Ireland,
front Gravesend, sent out by an intelligent person who
twhiastheeseleteotrytry. whether his enterprise would be repaid in
The writer, a most intelligent man, dee-
cribed the vessel as well supplied with all the necessary
article-,,nterpseasthe nets, trawls, &c., supplied, indeed, to an ex-
tent altogether unknown in that country. This was the
bah
th eyed Government wished to encourage, and they
that sut h examples would be more use
commercial exertions on their own part.f
ana- as?". not apprehend any good from a Committee o
aard7, as alrett6 • they had every information on the
inn-ject the House e3auld desire. It would further be the
--"133 of calling away those whose presence was much
ll'equred at present in Ireland. Before the end of the
ession he trusted to be able to lay on the' table of the_
°i use important inlerinstion respecting the curing of
-4", and the progress 01 the fisheries of Ireland, and on
the
. present occasion the lion. Member would withdraw
tits motion.
L.rd GEORGE BENTINCK thought the Righi
fe'r'n•
‘.Gentleman had given the weakest possible maim,:
,na,reerirttuisslng the motion. He apprehended there
in 1844,
before the Meuse different to those in
Mr.,
11,1441 Yet in that year, according to the authority of
in Nadel in
the law relating to the Irish fisheries was
a
,i,la"uo most clumsy and unsatisfactory charac er.
uonied the allegation that the Irish fishermen svc
to
liutec indolent or indisposed to go into the deep seas
rstla that mine of wealth which had been so mucht()
shun
02ito, and there ouaht to be a Select Committe?
re into this matter. He would support the Fmittone,
-11"' divide with the Hon. Member who proposed it, h
Pressed it to a division.
;testIII.TME said that year he intended to visisitctehle.
coast of Ireland, but he was detained, and.h
jef.or.
aseaarille west. He was sorry to say, that from his
nfitl;n, the fishing stations' were in a most imperfect
teb°o---,:„titnl, and he thotieht the Government ought to take
ere l'eslion and provide a remedy. He did expect that
0/.ow the Government would have brought in a Bill to
et coast improvement of the fisheries all round the
Ititie-8 the
of the country. He was not sure whether a Coin-
as on W-43 necessary, but he considered the subject
ought -tBO
tor such importance that the GI vernment
suPetinaa s'ce it tlp mid appoint a competento officer to
the
Governor Go "'nal all the improvements carriedforward
ffi h
mr. .ant.
show •I GORE entered into a number of del'aillasetdo
Mat advantages of establishing fisheries. in .
inter • WATSON thought it of great importance to the
sib) tee
of both country s to promote as much as pos
of ievthe fisheries in Ireland. lie represented the town
laentlthee, and he wished to impress upon theGovrno-,,
that t necessity of assisting the poor fishermen _
eatabi?wo, either by means of boats, or by huts, or hy.
chea,l'hi,ng drying stations for them, end also by a
:tfistshi:eiii;:ilindrue.:tdr3y.'.moans of conveyance cf the products
He hoped that the effects of this dis-
adopt
so would be to induce the Government to
country.tce means to assist the poor people of that
should' In Carrying on their trade. It his Hon. Friend
tairo, Press his motion to a division, he should cer•
ler vPea,";ith him.
alobl FRENCH said that he opposed the Bill of the.
Ipf rail!'" the Member for Lynn, for the conFtruetion
a the
groti..,spuls in Ireland by a grant of 16,000,0001., -
be,n'enl that not one sixpence of that money would. havethe
Wvest ilralenided in the employment of the poor in
Mr.° aren't d
Ras •
limbo s'DSON thought it was hardly fair for the lion.
not r.to
say-that the western districts of Ireland were
aNufdroi_vided for by that measure. If
the Hon. Member
Paosierok at the Bill itself, he would see that special
Uoseont was proposed to be made for the districts of I
'bent ea-Ler, end Galway. He thought that the appoint-
fortatat, "us Committee would be a wise one, and the in-
of at, which it would give to the House as the result
queries, would, no doubt, be very valuable.
alkoaBdait brr
Strong, BARRON thought that a very strong case
ni.ade out for the appointment of a Committee,
or wha,_6, Indeed, that he believed no Government could
meet to
resist and, feeling as he did, that the Go.
_ were bound to push forward the encaurage-
n aing • risheri
th es, he thought that he should be only rin.-
laotio, t e course ca the Government if he pushed his
thought ° division.—(Cries of " Divide, divide.") He
the Irish 'that he should now best consult the interests of
the Govern
fisheries by leaving the subject in the hands of
dre;ylviernelena at
-ae, therefore, begged leave to with-
. The 8 Motion.—(eries of "No, no.")
I,i_ec motion was then put from the chair.
Bowe galleries were cleared for a division ; no division,
o_yer, took place.
Ai:. our re-admission to the gallery we found
aed 4.AGIONBY urging the Noble Lord opposite
tootianis fliends to withdraw their opposition to the
stppeuro
Owe, e
lie thought the subject was not one which
trea the j
anocose s., r which they
*taut eti to regard it, d that, an
e a with
lc all the circum-
dra-weit: theY should permit the lion. Baronet to with-
fatal., • a)ISHAELI was rather surprised to hear the
that be Inade by the Hon. Member for Cockermouth,
f : the Noble Lord, the Member for -Lynn, and his
Or " o that side of the House, bad treatethe motion
Loa lion. Member for Waterford jocosely, lle de-
sled that there was any foundation whatever for suet, a
charge, and he considered the course now proposed to be
pursued by the Hon. Baronet the Member fur Water-
ford was exceedingly strange after the private solicita-
tion ha made to the Noble Lord to come down to the
Mouse and support his motion. He had asked the Noble
Lord to be present at the debate, and vote for the
motion for a Committee of Inquiry, and the Noble
Lord n once assented to the proposal of the
lion.llnonet, and along with his friends did support
the motion with that frankness and sincerity which were
Characteristic of them. They had actually made a
/louse for the occasion.—(Cries of " No, no," from the
htinisterial ',ouch.) Well, if they did not make a House,
did the Gcvernment snake the Horse?—(Hear, hear,
and cheers.> Was it not a fact that, even on Govern-
Silent nights, when the most important measures
Were brought forviard, the present Government had
the greatest difficulty in making a House. It was too
bad, however, that they should be accused of treating the
sUbject jocosely after the inconvenience to which they
had been sub;o• led in making a House, and the support
they had given to the motion of the Hon. Baronet.
141 r. AGIt.,NBY explained. It was to their oppo-
sition to the vt thdrawal of the motion that he applied
the term " Joe isc."
Colonel RAWDON was opposed to a division, as
after the explanation they received it could lead to no
useful result more especially at this late period
,
.0f the session 'lie hoped, therefore, the Hon. Baronet the
aember for Waterford would be allowed to withdraw it.
Me. TRELA%YNEY moved that the words, " and
Cornwall,
in
°ll"Vant" should be added to the motion, as he cotn-
?red that that locality had as goo claim as any other
cluded in such an inquiry.
the r 111-111 E seconded the motion and suggested that
Asher:%.ords Soath Sea and 'North Sea whale
aes ti s should be added—(Laughter)—for if the in-
the hation was extended to these quarters he believed
est results would follow.—(Laughter.)
it fie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
a-a,::,"id be well it the Noble Lord opposite would give
of itkand allow tho motion to be withdrawn. Atone period
trtsutevening there 'acre only twenty-three members
ene at the debate, and he did not think, therefore, that
11: present House was in a condition to form a correct
Judgment of the m:lits of the case.—(Hear, hear.)
was not tree that Ili encouragement had been given to
the fisheries of Ireland, as grants had been voted for the
Purpose of promoting them, and further aid was to be
given for the erection of piers ; and in the course of the
session he ,had moved a grant of 40,0001. for the put..
Pose of erecting curing stations in various partslaee
of Ireland ; but it discussions were to take
With respect to the requirements of
.evtilryo-usseeap seaport in the
woulde be
United Kingdom, the time
Theof
practicalth effect of the ap-
pointment to little purpose.
of the C tse would be to impede the
very object which thnToint .L Baronet had in view, as the
officers
now engaged in superintending the erection of
piers and
evidence before the Committee. He hoped, there-
fore, that Hon. Gentlemen opposite would not urge the
aßon. Baronet to press his motion to a division ; but
+tare the course which he might feel disposed to adopt
with respect to it to his own discretion.
hila DISRAELI was not surprised that the Hon.
`nutlet:llan, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, had been
suistaken as to what had been said by those on that (the
popposition) aide et the House, because he was absent
oring a considerable portion of the debate, but he did
nthink the Right Hon. Gentleman had much reason
o~lnient his absence ; and he (Mr. Disraeli) was
if he ure that he should have lost much himself
a) had not had the good fortune to hear the
lelo oration of the Honourable Baronet the Mem-
h er for Waterford (Sir H. Barron)—(Laughter)—
tet he was reconciled to the proanium, as he understood
at the eatastrooke was to be omitted. He did not reconl •
4uend the House a division, because his
jaobi to proceed to •
Friend (t and G. Bentinek) had attended the_
4ii°ltse that everntg, but what he did say was, that the
her; Gentlemau aa-hed his Noble Friend to attend,
theret questian -was one of great interest ; and he,
appealad to him to be present to support him.
from ,T"? Bear,) ut there was a moral. We drawn
speeoCuls• If In Members thought right to make
tic, Tie: ja order ta receive a " flashy" demonstra-
Tre-a they wer in the habit of going to the
littll—rY, and asaepting just as much or as
thoughte °f their prop::sitions as the Government
ter)-the Proper to g- them,—(Hear, hear, and laugh-
motions6Y must take the consequence when their
a came before ,he House.—(flear, hear.) He
had Noble Friend, and those around him, had, as he
g: saa.id, attended because the motion had reference to
(td'ucoaivetet of conaiderabla importance, but when these
ISlerac "dam motions were made,
a --ars on his sidthe House, from their
which Hon..
aresa,u4 of
conduct, could nut avoid the discussion—
, &tear, hear, " from Lard G. Bentinck)—they must
abide h
y the result. Ile wished it still a real debate,
V,4pir that it should lead to a real result. Those on his
(1) .11)israeli's) side of tho House had, as the House
47,:p0rl ded.llll
...e4 no desii o to inconvenience the present
Hear)—but when the term "jocose" was
he considered that it was wholly uncle-
it w that it could not apply to them, and if
doe as not addressed to them it must have been ad-
thtied to the Hon. Gentleman in the chair.—(Laughter.)
tienitt such Members elios:! to put their faith in the Ver
t..wre they responsib:e for the ridiculous posi-
ttoilledi'thawt nthicehy they got themselves ? He thought that
aloverninent should grant the Committee. He was
best might anticipate a dissolution, and the
Way for every Hon. litember to do, in order to se-