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JUNE 10, t 847:

you hold him exculpated We, therefore, who vensrate
our clergy, and must ft el as an insult to our•ielves any
attack or slight thrown upon them, have no means of
,judgieg if the reparation were due and sufficient, and,
declining altogether to enter into particulars, you, to use
the words of the remonstrance of the Cashel clergy,
' take on yourself to say that the charges Captain
Norris did m:,ke were partly deserved.'
" You must pardon us for saying that this course does
not seem consistent with the commonest fair play. It
the charges were not to be established, they should not
have been made. As they have been made, it is due to
the respected parties assailed—clergymen held in the
highest veneration by their flocks and by the Catholic
community generally—that they should be confronted
with their reckless accuser, and given the opportunity of
vindicating themselves. If ycu persevere in refusing,
we are bound to say that you in a manner proclaim to
the Catholic people of Ireland that their clergy may be
insulted with impunity by every petty official ; and that
no redress, but, on the cola, ary, an adoption of the
insults, is to be expected from the G .vernment.
" We are, sir, your obedient servants.".
_ _

Mr. O'CoNNELL (in continuation) wished it to be ob-
served that that letter should not be regarded as ema-
nating from the Repeal Association, but from the Roman
Catholic Members of Parliament generally. If the
Government persevered in refusing that reparation
which, it was conceived, was due to the feelings of thi.
Catholic clergymen in question, it would be necessary to
bring the matter under the c,nsideration of the llouNe
of Columon4, and have the whole correipondence
brought to light.
Mr. JOHN O'CotiNELL having handed in several re-
mittances, gave notice that he would, on the next day of
meeting, move that a financial committee be appointed
whose sole business it would be to manage the monetary
affairs of the Association. The Flonourable Gentleman
then, at some length, urged on the Liberal constituencies
of Ireland to make instant preparation fir the coming
elections, which he believed to be near at hand.

After the dispatch of some unimportant business, the
rent f,,r the we 4.11 was announced to b;... 631.35. 3d.

The meeting then adjourned.

ELECTION MOVEMENTS.

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REPRESENTATION OF THE BOROUGH OF
MARYLEBONE.

On Tuesday evening a numerous meeting of the elec-
tors of Marylebone took place at the Exmouth Arms
Tavern, Hampstead-road, for the purpose of hearing the
political sentiments of Lord Dudley Stuart. Charles
E len Wagstaff, Esq., Churchwarden of St. Pancras,
.:eenpied the chair.
Lord DUDLEY STUART, on rising to address the meet-
ing was received with great applause. The Noble Lord
having apulogised for his inability to attend a previous
meeting on account of his domestic affliction, proceeded
to announce himself a Liberal in the strict seose of the
word. He had sat in Parliament during the most event-
ful seven years, perhaps, in the annals of this country.
He was in the House of Commons during four Parlia-
ments, and assisted in the great struggle for the Reform
BM, against Tory intimidation and Tory corruption.—
(Cheers.) By the Reform Bill, the demon of corruption
had been to a great extent exorcised, but he did not
hold the Reform Bill as a perfect measure, or one that
ought to be final ; he felt that much good had been done
by it.—(Cheers.) Catholic emancipation and the aboli-
tion of negro slavery, were some of the results, but
although this was the case, and that the Reform Bill
had extended the franchise, it had done nothing to pro
tea the voter.—(Hear, hear.) He (Lord Dudley Stuart)
telt that therefore he was bound, in order to protect the
voter, to support the vote by ballot.—(Cheers.) It was
true he had voted when in Parliament against the short•
ening of the duration of Parliament; but he had non
seen good reas.ai for altering his opinions, and declaring
himself in favour of a shorter duration of Parliaments.—
(ssheers) He (Lord Dudley Stuart) had voted with
Mr. T. Duncombe for a repeal of the rate paying clauses
of the Reform Act, and he was for the extension of thi
franchise ; but in the present state of the country h.
could not give his adhesion to universal suffrage.—
(Hear, hear.) The Health of Towns Bill was a must
important measure, but all was not gold that glittered.
and he was not prepared to support a Bill which deprived
Englishmen of the privilege of local self-government.—
(Cheers.) He believed that the existence of our local
institutions was the mainstay of Eeglish independence.
and therefore was oppa-ed to the principles of centrali-
zation, and the new Poor-law as a pat of that system.
—(Cheers) Another most important matter was th.
government scheme of education. He (Lord Dudley
Stuart) gave his support to the treasure so far as it wet
but he con-idered it might be extended still further for
the beuetit of the country at large.—([liar, hear)
was a member and supporter of the established church in
this country, but at the same time he wished that no
civil disabilities should exist on account of religion
With respect to fore7gn policy, he (the Noble Lord) be.
lieved his c9nduct with regard to Poland had shown
that he was the opponent of tyranny, although at the
same time he was not, as had been alleged against
him, the advocate of war on that account.—(Hear,
hoar.) He wi,s most desirous that they should cultivate
kindly feelings with their neighbours the French people.
and he was the friend of peace and justice all over the
world.—(Hear, hear.)
In answer to a question put, Lord Dudley Stuart said
he would not, as an honest man object to the endowment
of the Roman Catholic priesthood, nor would he object
to do so with regard to Independents, Wesleyans, Bap-
tists.—(Oh, oh ! and hear, hear.) His Lordship urther
said he objected to pledge himself to any measure,
because he considered it unconstitutional.—(Oh, oh !
and hear, hear.)
Mr. Churchwarden HOWARTH moved a resolution to
the effect, a That the thanks of the meeting be given to
Lord Dudley Stuart for the frank expression of his po-
litical opinions."
Mr. HETH&RINGTON seconded the motion which was
adapted, with-a few dissentients.
Mr. Seargeant SHER, in answer to loud calls, came
forward to address the meeting. He had not the advan-
tage of the Noble Lord of being rocked and dandled
into a legislator. He had had through life to present
his ticket at the gate; and be now came before the
electors of Marylebone to cope with the Noble Lord.—
(Cheers.) He (Sere cant Shee) did not apprehend, like
the Noble Lord, the smallest danger from the immediate
advancement to household suffrage—(Cheers)—and when
instruction and education advanced he would have no
fear of a greater extension still.—(Cheers.) He would
vote fur the ballot whenever propo.,ed, and be would
elle vote for Mr. Ward's motion with respect to the
Irish church. With regard to the Catholic clergy of
Ireland, he would never consent, please God, that a
a single sarthing of the hard earned money of the Pro-
testant Dissenters and Jews of England should be taken
out of their pockets to support the Catholic church of
Ireland.—(Loud cheers.) After complaining that the
Noble Lord, although he had done a great deal for the
Poles, had done nothing for the people of England, ono
that he had come to supplant him as a candidate far that
borough, Mr. Sergeant Shee declared that he would
carry the contest to the close, and he believed the result
would be that he should be member tor Marylebone.—
(Loud cheers, oh, oh ! and laughter )
A .vote of thanks was subsequently voted to the o')air.
man, and the meeting separated at a late hour.

Pa t. SD.

THE NAVIGATION LAW*.

The Select Committee appointed to incti.lire into the
operation of the navigaion-laas re-assembled ,;nKne s'-
,lay morning in Room No. 2, to continue that inqt:."37
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Members pre .ent, Mr. Ricardo, Mr. Blitchell, Mr. Lynn,
Mr. Aldt-rman Thompson, Mr. Hume, Mr. Liddell, Sir
George Clerk, Sir Howard Douglas, Admiral Dundas.
Mr. Thomas Baring, Sir Robert Peel, Mr. Charles
Pelham Viihers, and Mr. Milner Gibson, chairman.
The Committee proceeded with the cross-examination
.4' Mr. George Frederick Y,,ung.
With the permission of the Chairman, Mr. Young
produced a certificate from Mr. Jansen, an eminent
underwriter at Lloyd's, and from the Secretary to the
Marine Insurance Society, both to the effect that the
statements made by him on a former occasion, with
regard to the rate of insurance being equal on both
ioreign and English ships, and that they would assure a
Dan tzic o.k-built ship at six per cent. for the whole
year, at which rate they also assured a ten years English
oak-built ship.
By Mr. Mitchell—He was not aware that the state
ment made by Mr. Jansen had been suhmittedtoth) meo.shttiocit
the leading underwriters at Ll..yd's, and that
refused to put their names to it.

By Mr. Ricardo—He considered that the ports of this
country were used as the great emporiums for the re
•option of the produce of the distant quarters of the
vorld in consequence of that restriction of the Nast
ration Act which pre% eut, d the importation from an:
prt in Europe for consumption in this country. 1,
the navigation•laws wire reptitied, and the
~f warehousing wee less in Antwerp than it,
this country, the Dutch merchant. would warehoteu-
his importations in Antwerp and not in England. 11.

had been told, upon very credible authority, that the
cost of warehousing in Arvw,-rp erns much cheaper thar
iR this country. The wi,ole or the German market win.,
at present open to the Dutch merctiant, and if the market
of England were added to that the inducement to ware-
house his goods at Antwerp %mid be infinitely greater

to the Antwerp merchar.t. bhips were continually ar
riving at Cones for a market ; and they waited there
until the consignee had ascertained the best market to
whet; to send her cargo. These ships, however, were
chiefly laden with coffee and sugar.
By Sir G,-.)rge Clark—lie was fully aware of the itn-
portanca:- of ene..uregiog :the system of. wareltousine
goods. He was not able to say why goods were ware
housed in this country for foreign consumption, not•
withstanding that the expense of -warehousing we
less abroad than in this country. He did not think
it was owing to our insular position and the
facilities of our harbours, for the chief ports for
warehousing were London, Liverpool, and the
7lyde. If all foreign countries were to adopt navi-
amation-laws similar to our own, this country
would be placed in a particular disadvantage. He did
not think that would -be obviated by a system of reci-
procity, becanse he was of opinion that the results of re-
ciprocity betwe-n two countries would be tkat the raw
material would be imported into the one country in th.-
ihip only of that country in which it was produced.
xhile the other would :‘nly have the exportaion of th,
manufactured goods—a most serious inconvenience to
this country, as the bulltiter articles required for manu-
actures would all be carried by the ships of other
countries.
By the Chairman—There was little or no profit at the
present time on the export trade ; the import trade only
was profitable. The export trade at present was open t.
Oreigners, and if the import trade were also opened ti
t'oreigners, he thought the result would be great depre
aiation and disadvantage to the shipping of this country.
By Mr. Villiers—He had already stated that the
affect of freight on commerce was very much overrated ;
t difference of 11. or 21. made no alteration in the price
the article carried. He attached more importance o
he shipping as a national interest than as the interest u
ndiviilual shipowners. All the shipowners asked was.
that the capital embarked by them in their trade should
not be reduced, by the trade being tak -n away from them
ay the unrestricted admission of foreigners into our car-
rying trade to such an extent as would render it im
possible for them to maintain the competition. His views
on this point were with regard to the present, and nom
to the future race of shipowners. The cost of predue-

tion might be diminished, but not to fl level with th.
cost of production in the cheap competing countries. H
~ould conceive such a state of things, but he shout.
.bject to the sponging away the national debt, without
which they could not hope to c.,mpete on equal term,
• ith the cheap nations.
The Chairman—Are you in favour of the shipowner
purchasing his provi,ion., in the cheapest market?
Mr. Young—Certainty Ism.
The Chairman— Is it an advantage to the shipowner
to nurcha.e his provisions in the cheapest market?
Mr. Young—lt is a great advantage. and they wer.
;lad to get what they required in the cheapest markt•t.
The Chairman—Would it not be a benefit to the Bti•
,lAh farmer to import his commodities in the cheapest
ships?
Mr. Young—He did nct think so, because the reduc
don in the price of imported commodities would be re
immeasurably small, that it would not reach the con.

sumer.
The Chairman—But might ro,t the farmer say, that
the reduction in the price of provisions would be so im-
measurably small, that it would not reach the ship-
owners ?
Mr. Young—He did not think so, because corn being
a bulky article, and therefore paying a high freight, the
farmer had still some protection.
The Chairman—But the protection being taken away
from the farmer, you ere atilt prepared to maintain th;
protection to the shipowner?
Mr. Young—You cannot repair ono injury by inflict-
ing a second.
Mr. Villiers—You were opposed to the protection o'
the agricultural interests, for you voted for the abolition
.if the sliding-scale
Mr. Young—He did not think it just that the farmer
ihould be deprived of all protection. He had always
.)eeif in favour of a axed duty.
Mr. Alderman Thompson wished to know what the
ttorn-laws had to do with the navigation-laws?
The Chairman—The navigation-laws have to do with
!he importation of corn.
Mr. Alderman Thompson moved that the room 1).-
cleared.
The Chairman—Stop a moment. I do not wish to
inquire into the corn-laws, but I must insist on my right
to put these questions, which are perfectly relevant•to
the inquiry.
Mr. Alderman Th,,ropion protested against the chair-
man making a speech after he hal moved that the room
he cleared.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. On our
re-admission,
By the Chairman—Witness was aware that tip
farmer was exposed to unlimited competition with the
continent in the articles of corn, cheese, butter, and
i cattle; but, nt.twithstanding that, he would still main-
tain pnitection to the British shipowner.
The Chairman was p.irsuing this course of inquiry
when the Committee were summoned to prayers, awl
they accordingly adj.iurricd until this day.