The Sun.
London, England, 1841-02-20 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, FEB. 19.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his scat on the Woo!-
sack at Five o'Clock.
EARL OF CARDIGAN.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, immediately upon
taking his seals moved that the Lord Speaker should
give his orders for the publication of the Trial of the
Eail of Cardigan.
The Earl of -ELDON wished to take the oppor-
tunity of adverting to a circumstance that had
taken place on the trial of the Noble Earl. Orders
were given by the House for the attendance of all the
Peers, Judges, and the different officers of the House.
Now the Masters in Chancery being considered the
messengers of that House, one of them on the occasion
of the trial of the Noble Earl came down and was
refused admission by the officers of the House, stating
that the reason of tie refusal was, that no orders had
been given by the Lord Great Chasnberlain for their ad-
mission. He (the Noble Earl) had no doubt that the
omission of such order had been quite unintentional.
He however thought it his duty to allude to the subject.
There was another circumstance to which he wished
also to allude, and that was, that in a portion of the
address of her Majesty's Attorney-General he made
use of the expression—no doubt out of regard to the
Noble Lord at the Bar—that he was glad in having
to prosecute that Noble Lord—that he could say that
there was nothing of moral delinquency in his conduct,
Now, unless it was stated that the Right Reverend Pre-
lates had requested permission to retire in the early part
of the day, it might be supposed that they concurred in
the observation of the Learned Gentleman. He (the
Earl of Eldon) was sure that those Right Reverend
Prelates would never countenance such proceedings as
had taken place ; and although he (the Earl of Eldon),
• was prepared to say tb&t the -present state sef:locie'y
-could not go on unless allowances were nitfe-tbirthe
feelings cf parties in certain situations, yet be must
confess that his opinion was that the high feelings of
her Majesty's Attorney-General had carried him
too far when he made that statement to which
he (the Earl of E.don) alluded.
The Bishop of LONDON apprehended that the
Right Rev. Prelates could not be implicated, even if
they had been present, as according to the statement
of the Learned Attorney General, because they
attended there on the occasion merely as Peers.
Had he been present he should have heard
that sentence with great regret, became he believed
that there was nothing that called for the ex-
pression, and therefore the Learned Attorney-General
had gone beyond the limits of his province. He hoped
that. their Lordships would take the question which
was involved in the trial into their consideration, in
order to see whether something could not be done
to put an end to a custom which had ori-
ginated in a barbarous age. It was the remains
of that chivalry, which perhaps was of great use
at the time it prevailed, but which was totally incon-
sistent with the manners and customs of the present day.
Earl MOUNTCASHEL wished to put a ques-
tion to her Majesty's Ministers on the subject of duel-
ling. He thought something ought to be done on the
subject, for if it were allowed to stop there, the House
would be considered as giving colour to the shameful ma-
lignity that had been shown in several instances: The
question that he wished to put was whether it was
the intention of her Majesty's Government,
Lord BROUGHAM—A new question cannot be
put across the House while there is one question unde-
cided before Hear, hear.)
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY wished to say, with
reference to the statement made by the Noble Earl
(Eldon), that all the Judges and Peers were ordered
to attend; but that the Masters in Chancery, by virtue
of their office as messengers of the House, had no claim
to attend there.
After a few observations from the Marquis of
LANSDOWNE, which did not teach us,
Lord ELLENBOROUGH said there was sonic
thing e:roneous in the statement of t'..e Noble Lord.
The Bishops had no more reason to leave tie House
than any otter individual. He (Lord Elleuborough)
eppretiended it was open to any Pe it on any
occasion to leave the House without voting. It I
was so held in what was commonly called the
Queen's trial. The House could compel the &lend-
:ince of Pcors et their proceedings, but they could not
compel Peers to vote. The case might be one on which
a Peer could not conscientiously vote.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had no
doubt that• a Peer had a right to withdraw and
not vote ; but the . reason he
.apprehended why the,
Bishops wished to retire, yet did so under protest,
was to assert and maintain their right of sitting at all
proceedings, and, if they liked, to vote.
Lord REDESDALE said the Bishops had made
the same protest in the case of the Duchess of King-
ston. He believed the Lords Spiritual always claimed
the right, because the Peers denied their right of sitting
in judgment on Peers.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said he believed it
would be found that the proceedings were in the usual
form. It was usual for the Bishops to ask leave to re-
tire without voting, and it had been done on this
occasion as ea former trials. It was previous to their
Lordships being called upon to give their ve
that the Archbishop of Canterbury asked leaver
the Lords Spiritual to retire. The Noble Earl 64.
moved that thee Lord Speaker should give dir ection*,
for the printing of the Trial of the Earl of Cardigan, on
Tuesday last.—Agreed to.
The Earl of RIPON gave notice, that on Monday
next be should move for correspondence relative to cer-
tain transactions with the Court of Persia.
DUELLING.

SHIPPiNG INTELLIGENCE.
(LLOYD'S.)

LONDON, FEB. 19.--Wind this day at noon, light airs at
south, with rain and hazy weather.
RAMSGATE, FEB. 18.-1 he Jane, Smith, from London to
Dunkirk, has sprung a leak, having stranded in the harbour,
and must discharge to repair.
DEAL, FEB. 18, 1 r.M.—Wind S.—Arrived Camillus,
Murles, from Demerara. Sailed, the Jane Cumming, Harold,
for Alva Bay ; Mary Lyon, Davidson, Mauritius ; Hebe,
Wishart, Hobart Town ; Myrene, Symons, Berbice ; Barbara
Gordon, Ritchie, Tobago ; Superb, Shannon, Mobile ; Re-
liance, Case, Fernando Po ; Elizabeth and Jane, Hart, Sierra
Leone ; Mary, Harper, ditto ; Planter, Thorn, Honduras.
Sailed Euxine, for Bombay ; Vernon, Treherne, Madeira, and
the rest of the outward bound.
LIVERPOOL, FEB. 18.—Wind S.—Arrived the Patriot
Queen, Hoodless, from Calcutta; Zenobia, Putnam, Savan-
nah; Corsair, Harland, ditto. Off Port, South America,
New York; Thomas Bennett, Charleston. Sailed, the Me-
dora, Harrison, for Barbadoes ; Protector, Barowman, ditto ;
Branches, White, Savannah ; Ritzon, Johnson, Trinidad. The
President, steam tug, has arrived from the Skerries, with about
800 chests of tea from the Mary Elizabeth. 'I he Susan,
Crowell, has arrived from Crookhaven, with 400 barrels of
flour from the America, from Quebec to this port, stranded
near that place.
PORTSMOUTH, FEB. 18.—Wind E. S. E.—Arrived the Gla-
diator, Button, from New York.
KINGSTOWN, FEB. 17.—Arrived the Barbara Ann, Atkin-
son, from St. John's, New Brunswick.
Conic, FEB. 16.—Arrived the Palmyra, Thompson, from
Porto Rico, cargo supposed to be damaged by stress of weather.
Sailed the Samuel Abbott, Gard, for Cuba. (ff port, the
Finfralson, Primrose, for St. John's, New Brunswick.
SWANSEA, FEB. 17.—Arrived the Louise Sophie, Boyson,
from Valparaiso.
BaisTor,, FEB. 18.—Sailed the Governor Douglas, Hyde,
for New York.

The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL then rose to put a
question to her Majesty's Government. He belieyed the
trial thet had recently taken place in tlieir Lordships'
House was for duelling, yet he found, that no
later than yesterday morning, a duel had taken place,
et which one of the parties was wounded. He con-
ceived, according to the Act of Victoria, these parties
ought to be taken up and brought to trial. Ile
thought this a favourable opportunity of bringing the
question before their Lordships. It was his opinion that
duos might be put a stop to ; but the way to do it
would be to pass an Act to meet the different cases that
were productive of duels. Duels might be divided into
two classes. Those resulting from minor insults and
offences, and those from offences of a graver nature.
He believed that in Prussia there was a Court of
Honour, which worked well, and he wished a similar
measure was adopted in this country. The classes of a
serious nature ought to be taken into consideration. If
a man seduced another man's sister, her brother called
him out. And why ? Because the law afforded him
no redress. He conceived offences of this nature ought
to be made criminal offences. He thought it a great
defect in the law that if a man's daughter were seduced,
he could only bring an action for the loss of his daugh-
ters services. He was sure, though some Noble Lords
might think lightly of it, that this was a great defect.
Tho Noble Earl then adverted to the discipline of tv.e
army and the conduct of superior officers towards their
inferiors, which, we understood him to say, was produc-
tive of duelling.—(Hear, hear.) He trusted her
ROBBERIES IN OMNIBUSES.---GAUTION TO Majesty's . Ministers would see the necessity
THE PUBLIC. —A few days ago Mrs. Rich, a lady residing of taking this subject into their consideration.
at Stra'ford, in Essex, came to town in ono of the vehicles If they did not do so they would become still more
plying between tba• place and Cornbill, and, having occa- unpopular than they were at present. If they were
skin to go to the West-and, she got into a Bla .kwall om- not prepared to bring in a Bill on the subject, let
nibus at the Mansion House, which was going ti ither. them appoint a Committee on the subject, because,
The vehicle proceeded at a slow pace along the Poultry as the law at present stood, a man did not know
and a part of Cheapside, and on its reaching the end cf
how is act, and might give offence unintentionally.
St. Paul's Mrs. Rich discovered that her dress had been
lie wished, therefore, to know whether it was the in-
cut through to her pocket, and that her purse, containing
tention of the Government to bring in any measure for
thirty-three sovereigns and a check for 301, was gone.
the effectual prevention of duelling ?
Having no doubt that the robbery had been accomplished
by one of two well-dressed young men who had got into Lord MELBOURNE was; deeply sensible of the
the vehicle immediately after her, one of whom sat Le- importance of the subject; at the same time he was
tile her, and both of whom had got out of the omnibus not prepared to say that it was the intention of the
rather hurriedly, and after riding but a very short distance, Government to bring in any measure with reference to
she (Mrs. Rich) last no time in proceeding to the banking- duelling. It would be difficult to discover any means of
house upon which the check was drawn to stop payment, giving greater strength or effect to public opinion on
and to prevent the thieves turning it to account. Some the subject than it at present bad.
days before a lady had been robbed in precisely the same POOR-LAWS (IRELAND).
manner is a Paddington "buss" of a purse containing
The Earl, of GLEN GALL begged to ask if it was
t sway-eight sovereigns.
A the int ‘ntlcen of her Majesty's Government to hri
FATAL FALL FROM A HOUSE-TOP.—At - ' . the Irish ng
forward any measure to alter Poor-law as
noon on Thursday, Mr. Wakley, M. P., held an inque.t
regarded the appointment of returning.officers. Toe
st t'se Mi idlerex Hospital on the body of Ann Lynch,
age .•d 49 The te.timony of several witnesses proved that present ORMANB
desea t. l's husband, a tailor. 1 ved on the second floor of The Marquis of N
____ Y, without admitting
system had been productive of
the hou e, No, 15, Blenheim-street, Oefereettreet, and the evils to which the Noble Earl alluded, begged to say
that sl. e was in the habit of leaving him for weeks in sue- that tire attention of 'the Government and the Com-
ceisior. On Monday night, after about a month's a':- miesioners bad been directed to the subject, and had
sence, ehe retsrnei home, and, having opened the street had given directions that all future elections should be
door with a latch-key, she proceeded to her husband's conducted as far as possible on an unobjectionable
rooms. Finding t'..em locked, she went up stairs into the principle. He was not aware, however, of the neces-
front attic, wheels she had no right to go, aid slept there
sity for any alteration in the law. Mr. Nichols had
for the Light. About ton o'clock next (Tuesday) morn-
stated that it was intended at the next election to try
ing, h wring her landlady coming up stairs, and not wish-
the experiment of appointing the clerks of the unions
ing to be discovered by her, she stole int) the back attic,
through the windpw of which she passed, and stood on the as returning officers, and be had no doubt it would be
parapet, for the porpoits of poncealment. Whilst in that successful, as by that means they would steer clear of
pcsiticn something frightened Lee, and she fell from it into political feeling.
the area:—Verdict, Accidental death.
the
es
Government.very sorry to
The
bear
THE LATE SUICIDE AT BLACKFRIARS thatT hseucEhawrlasofthGe LiriEteNntGioAn LofL
rttuoce.—On Thursday an inquest was taken before Mr. I clerks of the unions were in many cases appointed
-4. St, Bartholomew's Hospital, on the body of by partisan boards of guardians, and the evil, would
Payne, es
Thomas Henman, a plate?, aged 26, whose death was thus be perpetuated. It was his intention to bring
forward a motion on the subject very shortly, and the
oWnirig ledornystiefilifn;ffofthme
Monday
ystlraaseltes oTfhßel
jacukry-
manner in which the returning-officers were appointed
would form a distinct feature in that motion.
N ELL GENCE.--7.4 egllrary
MELANCHOLY had reminded the
craivarsesißbryidtgliero,
correspondent writes 143 follows, under date February 9, Noble Earl
that the matter was merely in the nature of
to say that I have no particular news 4n
The Marquis of NORMANBY
Black-
friars
ao VielarindiCstoorfv" TieMTPPrarYI I'llitpisity:" A
experiment.
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se.en murdered or Heel *telly
The Earl of WESTMEATH said the form of vat.
to send, as no person has ...-„.
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killed here of late; so we are very dun a,.r...._ . . ini for guardians in Ireland had given rise to perjury,
derland Herald.

NOTICE TO MARINERS.
LIGHT BOAT AT SAVANNAH.
The following has been received at Lloyd's:—
" British Consulate, Savannah, Dec. 23, 1840.
" Sir—l transmit herewith, for the information of mas-
ters of vessels frequenting this port, a copy of a notice is-
sued by the Collector of Customs, announcing the esta-
blishment of a floating light on the south-east point o 1
Martiein's Industry—a dangerous shoal off this port.
" I am, &c.,

" E. MOLYNEUX.
"'William Dobson, Esq., Secretary."
" A light boat has been moored:between Martien's In-
dustry, S. E. point, and the North bank of Port Royal
entrance—will he lighted up on the first night in February
next. The bearings of this light will be as follow :—N.
Point Trech's bland ; N. W. half N. ; Ray Point N. W.
by N. ; Tybee Lighthouse W. S. W. ; distance about 18
miles; depth of water 6 fathoms half ebb. Shows one
bright light, which is elevated about 22 feet above the sur-
face of the water. Distance from nearest land about eight
miles."