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capitulation. But in the answer to the 34th article, the
claims of the ecclesiastics of Sulpice were refused
until the Kit g's pleasure should be known.
Thu Earl of RA DN 0 R—Read the 32d article.
The Bishop of EXETER said that the 32d article re-
Lrred only to the nuns. Th Noble Earl might shake his
head.

The Earl of RADNOR—Read the 32d article.

The Bishop of EXETER read the article. It secured
to the communities, their constitution, and pr:vilegea.
The demand in the 34th article was for a similar immu-
ity to St. Sulpice, but it was refused until the King's
pleasure should be known. The Noble Marquis had read
from the Report of Sir C. Grey that there had been
several Catho'ic colleges incorporated; and so there
might be, but they were lay, not ecclesiastical corpora-
ti ms. If the Noble Marquis chose to shut his eyes to the
distinction, the Noble Viscount (Melbourne) could not be
blind to it. [ln explanation of the allusion made by the
Noble Viscount to the report of his speech in the Times
newspaper, the Rev. Prelate was about to read a letter
from the Reporter for that journal, when he was inter-
rupted by loud cries of " Order" from all parts of t',e
House, to which, after a few words from the Earl of Suf-
folk, who rose to order, he at length gave way.] He
would not trespass further on the attention of the House,
but be felt great satisfaction at what had fallen from the
Noble Duke, that the rejection of his motion would not
prevent the further considerA'on of this question.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said he had not been
understood by the Rev. Prelate. He had used an ar-
gument, although it might be a bad one. He had said
that this ordinance was not at this moment law in Canada;
and as it was passed subsequently to the Act of Union (of
last year), if it were contrary to anything contained in that
Act, a remedy would be found.—( Hear.)
The Bishop of EXETER hoped that in that view the
Noble Lord near him would consider the subject in the
same light which he had presented it.—(Cries of " No,
no," from Lord Melbourne ) He only asked the. Noble
Viscount to consider whether it was not contrary to law.—
( No. no.)
The Marquis of NORM ANBY was sorry t r deprive
the Rev. Prelate of the satisfaction which he had derived
from the source referred to.—( Hear, and laughter.) But
he had already informed the Rev. Prelate that the whole
question was submitted to the law officers of the Crown,
and their opinion was decidedly in favour of the ordinance.
—( Hear, hear.) He had told the Rev. Prelate that he
could not find in the Colonial-office any document of his
in which he styled any person the Catholic Bishop cf
Quebec. Ile asked the Rev. Prelate to name to him the
document upon which he founded that charge?
The Bishop of EXETER said, if the Noble Marquis
had given him notice, be would have brought the docu-
ment down with him. But he had it not with him now.
It was, he belitved, a return of the ecclesiastical esta-
blishments in Canada, presented by the Noble Marquis in
1;539, in which it was stated that 2,000/. had been paid as
the salary of the Roman Catholic Bishop of Quebec.
The Marquis of NORM ANB Y said, that was a return
annually made to the House of Commons, in which the
Bishop alluded to had been always so styled by his (Lord
Normanby's) predecessors since the conquest.—(Great
laughter on all sides. )
The Bishop of EXETER said the Noble Marquis might
laugh, but he would cause him to laugh upon the other
side.—( Renewed laughter.) The document was not a re-
gular annual return.
The Marquis of NORMAN BY could not say whether
it was cr not, as the Rev. Prelate did not enable him to
know anything about it. But the ecclesiastics in question
were so styled in all the returns. —( Hear, hear.)
The question was then put and the motion was nega-
tived without a division.

The House then Adjourned at Half-past Nine.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, MARCH 15.

The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual time.
On the motion of Mr. STRUTT, the Derby Gas
8.11 was read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted.
The Ecclesfield Inclosure Bill was read a second
time on the motion of Mr. BUSFIELD.
The Collymeston and the Southorpe Inclosure B Ils
were read a third time and passed, on the motion of Sir
G. CLERK.
Sir B. HALL presented petitions from the Direc-
tors of the poor, and he vestrymen of St. Pancras,
against the Middlesex Sessions Bill.
On the motion of Mr. H. BERKELEY, the Bristol
Gas Bill was read a second time and ordered to be
commit' e I.
Mr. BAINES moved the second reading of the
North Midland Railway BT. Read a second time,
and ordered to be committed.

Mr. SHEPPARD preented a petition from a num-
ber of chemists and druggists against the B 11 now before
the House for Reforming the Medici' Profession.

Mr. G. BERKELEY presented a peetion from
Cheltenham to the same effect.

Mr. DIVETT presented a petition from the Town
Council of the Borough of Newport in favour of the
Jews' Decl4ration Bill ; also from a congregation of
Protestant Dissenters, complaining of the jurisdiction
of the Ecclesiastical Courts, and praying for the release
of Mr. Baines, and for the abolition of Church-rates.

S.r E. WILMOT presented a petition from War-
wickshire, praying for some alteration in the New Poor-
law.

Sir BENJAMIN HALL presented a petition from
the borough of Marylebone, against the Poor-law Con-
tinuance Bill.

Mr. TOW NELY PARKER, presentea a petition
from certain landholders in Laheashire, complaining of
the increased expense to which they had been sub-
j cted by the operation of the New Poor-law Bill, and
praying for a return to the ancient system ; also from
twenty-s:x Guard'ans of the Union of Preston, against
the cent nuance of the powers of the Poor-law Cam-
missionerF.

Mr. EASTHOPE presented a petition from Ket-
tering, in Northamptonshire, praying for the Abolition
of Church-rates ; also a petition from the Baptista of
Burton-on Trent, praying for the abolition of Church-
rates, and the extinction of Ecclesiastical Court, and
for the liberation of Mr. Baines. Also petitions from
the Protestant Dissenters of Merionethshire, from the
Independents of Halidown,: in the county of Salop,
from the inhabitants of several places in Derby-
shire and Devonshire, and from several parishes
in Manchester, praying for the abolition of Church-
rates and the extinction of Ecclesiastical Courts.
Mr. SCHOLEFIELD presented a petition from
the Mayor, corporation, and inhabitants of Birmingham,
in favour of the removal of religious tests being put to
persons on enterinz office.

Mr. BARNABY presented a petition from Groome,
in Staffordshire, in favour of Church Extension.
Mr. BAINES presented a petition praying for the
abolition of Church-rate;, and of the jurisdiction of Ec-
clesiastical Courts.

Mr. W. DUNCOMBE presented two petitions
from Wiltshire and Yorkshire, against certain provi-
sions in the new Poor-law Bill.

Mr. T. DU NCOM BE presented a petition from
tower' thousand inhabitatti of Nottingham, compl lining
of the illegal conviction of Frost, Williams,
and Jones ; a petition from S. Gordon, of Dublin,
praying for the release of all political offenders, and
from .an individual residing at Doctors'-commons, pray-
ing the House to adopt the principles of the People's
Charter.

Mr. lIUME presented a petition from a parish in
Middlesex against certain clauses in the Poor-law
Bill ; from Eist Budleigh in Devonshire against
the County Courts all ; from Ayr praying
for the abolition of Church•rates ; from Bridg-
north, in favour of Medical Reform, and from Mac-
clesfield, from the Universal Community Society of
Rational Religionists, called Socialists, praying for in-
quiry into their principles.
Mr. MORG AN J. O'CONNELL presented 'peti-
tions from Kerry, and other parts in Ireland, in favour
of Lord Morpeth's Irish Registration Bill.
Lord HOTHAM presented a petition from the
Medical Practitioners of Leinster and Leominster, in
favour of medical reform.

M,. GILLON presented a petition from the Asso-
ciate Church of Auchtermuchty, praying for the aboli-
tion of Courch-rates, and the abolition of the jurisdic-
tion of the Ecclesiastical Courts ; and a petition from
the United Secession Church of Edinburgh, to the same
effect.

Mr. MACAULAY presented a petition from the
Subscribers and D
establishment
p presented
Directors-teleters-ei the Edinburgh School of
Arts, praying
for
ntedoaf
paetSitciaharaofltaomf
Sir JAMES GRAHAM
Design.
Pembrokeshire against the
Irish Parliamentary voters proposedn Lord qualification for
Mr. KELLY presented Morpeth's Bill.
Chemists and Druggists of tlelßorough of Ipswich
petition from fourteen
against the Bill before the House for Medical
Mr. BOLT presented ON CLIVE
a similar peti-
tion from a place in Herefordshire.
The Henley and Dorchester Road Bill was read a
second time.
Mr. B. WOOD presented a petition from a congre-
gation of Protestant Dissenters in Devonshire, praying
for the abolition of Church-rates.
Mr. R. ALSTON presented a petition against cer-
tain clauses in the Poor law Amendment B:11.
Colonel SIBTHORP presented a petition from a
parish in Lincoln in favour of Church Exteesipn.
Mr. DENISON presented a petition from Farnham,
Surrey, against idolatry in India ; also a petition from
a place in Surrey, praying that the landlords of small
tenements should be liable for tLe payment of rates.
Sir J. SEALE presented a petition from Dartmouth,
is favdur of the removal of the West India mail sta.
'Qn from Falmouth to that place.
Sir J. CAMPBELL presented a petition from the
‘.ord Provost and Council of Edinburgh, on the sub-
ject of the rc;o:tration of births, marriages, and deaths.
Mr. G. WOOD presented a petition from the che-
mists and druggists mains,. certain proposed alterations
of the law relating to medical practice.
Sir GEORGE STAUNTON presented a petition
from Portsmouth a.;ainst Church-rates.
Mr. R. STEWART
presented petitions from Had-
dington and Kincardine against Church patronage in
Scotland.

Mr. BARNABY gave notie that on to-morrow he
tcoul'l move for returns of communications between the
Post-office and certain couch-proprietors.
Culonel SIBTHORP gave notice that he would
trice the sense of the House on the appointmynt of Mr.
Vizatd at the lioua.:•offiee.