The Sun.
London, England, 1840-01-04 00:00:00

EVE NlNti EDITION.

Now, name another, if you can ?—At Risca, I suppose,
there were 400 or 500 people, and at Mr. Cross's house
there were 109 more, and we were all in a mind to return.
Is that an answer to my question ? Give me the name
of one person, if you can ?—I don't know the persons'
names. There was one man of the name of Cook. I
am positive he was forced to go. He is the agent of
Mr. Leacon.
Now, can you name any other ?—Thero area great many
vow in Monmouth, but I don't know their names.
Tell me what you aro by business or occupation ?..—A
collier.
For whom do you work ?—ForMr. Protheroe at present.
Is that the gentleman (Sir T. Phillip's partner) ?-
1 Yes, it is. _ _ _

Hose long have you been in his employ 2—At different
times.

But how long from the present time?—For the last
month or six weeks, or perhaps two months.
I want to know whether your employment began after
the riots at Newport ?—After.
How long after ?—Two or three days after. I applied
to 11;s agent.

When was it you first gave information to anybody as
to the proceeding of this night of the 3d of November ?.—I
gave it the next day, after I went to work.
When was that ?—We were idle two or three days after
the day of the riots.
Was it in the same week ?--Yes, we were all met to-
gether and talked about it.
When did you first hear *ere had been a riot ?--I heard
on the same day.
How long after was it that you first gave the information?
—I can't say.
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Was it two, or three, or four days ?—I can't say.
\Vas it five ?—I can't say ; I think the Prat information
I gave was on the Sunday.
To whom did you give that information ?—To Daniel
Evans.
Did you tell him all you have told us to-day ?—No, I
did not.

Then, what information did you give him ?—I can't say.
Yes, you can, and you must ?—I can't say particularly.
I ask you, on your oath, what you told him concerning
the riot. What was it you told Mr. Daniel Evans ?-1
told him I was with the mob.
I ask you what you told him ?—I told him what happened.
What did you say to him ?-1 can't tell you ; I have told
you as nearly as lies in my power.
I ask you again upon your oath, what it was you told
to Daniel Evans ?—I don't know ; it is no use for me to
go over a thing I don't recollect.
What was it you told him ? come, out with it ?—I told
him what I have said hire.
I ask you upon your oath, man, to tell me what you told
him ?—He asked me if I saw Frost there, and I told him
I did.

What else ?—He asked me where ; I told him at the
Coach and Horses.
Well, go on ; what else did you tell him ?—I told him
we went from that to the Greyhound. I told him that he
said he was going to meet Zephaniah Williams with 5,000
men, and Jones at Pontypool with 2,000 more.
What else beyond that ?—I think I told him that the
guns were ordered to the front to be proved.
Anything more, or is that all ?—1 don't remember that
I said anything more.
Then now, after Daniel Evans, to whom did you give
information ?—I gave a few words to Mr. Protheroe.
When 7—The day that I was examined.
Am I to understand you to say you gave no information,
except on the Sunday, to Daniel Evans and to Mr. Pro-
theroe on the day you were examined ?—Not to my know-
ledge.
How came you to see Mr. Protheroe on the day you
were examined ?—I met him at the Westgate Inn.
What made you go there ?—I was taken there by the
constable.
Do you mean that you were apprehended?—l was taken
as a witness, Daniel Evans told me.
I want to know whether he took you as a prisoner ?—He
told me my time would not be long ; he only wanted me
as a witness.
Where did you go in the first place 2-1 went to the
Union.
Who slid you see there ?—I saw Mr. Edwards there.
Did you see Mr. Edwards before you saw Mr. Pro-
theroe ?—Yes.
Did you make any communication to him I—Yes, I gave
him some little information.
What did you tall Mr. Edwards ?—I told him nearly the
same as I have given to-day.
You will swear that ?—Not all, I believe.
Do you believe you gave it all I—No, I don't think I did.
Have you reason to believe any part of the information
was kept back I—No. I think not ; but I was not examined
so closely as I have been to-day.
When you came before the Magistrates, who examined
you?—Mr. Coles.
Were you desired to state all you knew about the matter ?
—Yes' I was desired to state all I knew about the prisoner
at the bar.
When did you first tell anybody about a man having said
that the soldiers were all Chartists, and the arms and am-
munition packed up, and were ready to come up if you want
for them ?—I don't remember.

Did you ever do it ?—Oh yes, I have.
Well, did you tell it to Daniel Evans ?—No, I did not.
Then tell me to whore you told it 2-1 told it to Mr.
Edwards, that and many other things I have not told.
To any one else—to Mr. Phelps ?—I told ,Mr. Edwards
in the street.
Did you tell it to Mr. Protheroe ?—Not to my knowledge.
What time was it yeu left Blackwood en the Sunday
evening ?—About 7 or 9 o'clock, I think.
Where were you at day-break ?—At Pie-corner.
How long did you stop there 2—We made no stop.
How far is that from Newport ?—Between two and three
miles.
How soon after you had been at Pie-corner did you leave
the people ?—I got under the hedge and scrambled through,
and then got through the fields.
How far is it to Pie-corner from your house ?—The road
I went might be 12 miles.
What time did you get home ?—I was home by 10 o'clock.
How long were you going home ?---That is more than I
can tell.
I ask you upon your oath were you not at home in your
bed between 9 and 10 ?—I was in any house, and my clothes
off, before 10 o'clock.
Were yeu not in bed?—Certainly I was.
Were you not in bed shortly after nine o'clock ?—I
was not.
Do you know Mary -Tones t—Tes.
Did she come to your `souse that morning ?—Yes.
Were you in bed when she came ?—Yes.
With regard to Pie-corner, can you name any person
who was present when Frost said one word you have men-
I tioned ? —The same man I have mentioned, with a glazed
hat and drab coat.
Do you know at all who this man was ?—Not his name.
II Jcl you ever seen him be.ore ?—No.
Have you ever seen him since?—No.
Did you never hear him called by any name ?—I heard
some people say they thought his name was Reynold.
Did yoc hear him addressed by any name ? No,
I did not.
Was there any other person who was present and within
i hearing when Frost said what you have stated ?—Not
people that I knew.
Is that your handwriting (handing the deposition of the
witness to him) ?—Yes
( The deposition was then read, but did not differ mate•
rialty from the evidence which the witness now gave.)
Were the guns ordered to the front to be proved once,
1 or more than once ?—anly once.
Were the guns ordered to the front more than once ?
Yes ; they wrre ordered to be in front at Pie-corner and at
the Welch Oak.
How lone have you been in the habit of attending meet-
' ings of these people ?—I attended the first meeting that
vets ever held. I never attended another after the Friday
night.
wee the first meeting long ago?—Going on strong for
i twelve otoliths.
IBy aßy you hear Frost make any re mark
upon hearieg of the statement of the man with the glazed
hat ?—Nc.
When at Pie corner Mr. Frost made a statement to you
About blowing up she bridge, and so on ; did he do so in
a low voice to you personally, or that all the people might
hear?—:lt was not a loud voice,
Was it told you as a secret ?--No.
Were you obliged to hide yourself after making your
escape ?—Yes.
Fur how long do you thank ?—Not many minutes.
While the crowd was passing. Yes; but I did not lose
above 10 or 15 minutes.
George Lloyd examined by Mr. Sergeant Ludlow—l
live within Aor 309 yards of the house of Zephaniah
Williams. I remember on Sunday evening, the 3d of
Neeember, being on my way homewards from Nantyglo,
a little after six o'clock, A number of men, about 40 or
50, fell in with me. they asked where I was going. 1
said, " Nowhere particular." " Oh, then," said they,
..el--n your eyes, you must come along with us." When
they said I must go along with them, they pushed a dagger
they bad at the end of a stick, which touched me on the
breast. I was taken to the house of Zephaniah Williams,
' when I found a great many persons out ide and inside.
About 100 were outside. A great many had in their
fiends different sorts of weapons ; others had none. Sonic
had spears ; some old knives at the end of sticks; others
long iron rods, pointed at the end. They preseuted
me wile a piece of a mopstick. We were di-
rected to so to the mountain. I went along
with them. The mountain is about two miles
frOm Zephaniah Williams's house, between Rbbw-vale
and Nantyglo. We stayed there between two and three
hours. While we were there, people came in droves from
all quarters. The night was very dark; there might be
between 4,000 and 5,00* peoplv present. They had
weapons in their hands of the same description as the
others. There is a tuf on the mountain, i. e. a place
higher than any other. Zephaniah Williams ascended it.
He said, "My dear Chartists, don't be afraid ; we are
bound to be at Newport by two o'clock ; the soldiers will
hot touch as." He said something else in Welsh which
1' did not understand. Some of the people then said,
h.:Come on, my boys." When Zephaniah said the soldiers
"weed pot hurt them, the men whooped and said, " We
don't care for them." Tkey then marched. When geing
' along some broke the doors and windows and took the peoe
, pie: away. Sech as did not come voluntarily were dragged
out and prete,e- to go. I made my escape on the road.
They had been abeeing me all the way—knocking and push-
ingone about. They said they would serve me out if I did
.ctot come along with them. At Abercairn there is 3
canal ; they threw me into it because I had tried to make
my escape from them. I got out if the canal, and they
pushed me along until, being wet, edit An
lee d stthemiff, I dropped
d
on the road. I saw a house near I knocd up, an
they let me in. I left it about half-past lie o'clocto thirty
in the
morning. On my way home I met from twenty y
men coming towards Newport with pikes and ether was.
pons. These men took me back with them by force. I
imet them about half a mile from Abercairs. I wan
mett ba
Ike
people coming
back from Newport ; some without hats,
',ethers with their hats in their hands, and some in their
elei:et sleeves. I wanted to turn with the first I met. The
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