The Sun.
London, England, 1847-07-27 00:00:00

MARYLEBONE.

On no occasion since the passing of the Reform Bill
have the Liberal party been placed in such a predicament,
and split into so many sections, as on the present occa-
sion, consequent on the retirement of Mr. D. W. Harvey.
This predicament is not confined to the electors, but even
the Hon. Baronet, Sir Benjamin Hall, is placed in a posi-
tion which, to say the least of it, is extremely critical,
owing to his utter inability to please all parties.
It will be remembered that, at a meeting of Lord
Dudley Stuart's friends, held on Saturday evening, it
was unanimously resolved to get up a requisition to Sir
B. Hall, calling upon him to coalesce with his Lordship,
and throughout yesterday Lord Dudley Stuart's com-
mittees were actively engaged in endeavouring to pro-
cure signatures to that requisition.
"At two o'clock yesterday afternoon a numerous body
of electors who are the strenuous supporters of Sir B.
Hall, waited upon the Hon. Baronet at his central com-
mittee-room, the Orange Tree, New-road, for the pur-
pose of ascertaining if it was the intention of the Hon.
Baronet-to coalesce with Lord Dudley Stuart, or any
other candidate.

Sir B. HALL, in answer to the question, said that he
had heard that a requisition was in course of signature,
calling upon him to coalesce with one of the Liberal can-
didates, but he begged positively to state that whilst
there were two Liberal candidates besides himself in the
field he would not coalesce with either, unless a requisi-
tion to that effect was presented to him, signed by no
less a number than 3,000 or 4,000 electors, or some un-
equivocal expression was made to him that such was the
wish of the vast majority of the Liberal party.
The deputation expressed their satisfaction at this de-
claration, and said it was their determination, under
such circumstances, to leave no stone unturned to secure
the return of him (Sir B. Hall) at the head of the poll.
Had he, on the contrary, said be would coalesce, it was
their determination to use all their influence to oppose
him. The deputation then withdrew.
The requisition above referred to was to have been
presented last evening, but it was understood that the
signatures appended thereto were not sufficiently nume-
rous for that purpose, aid the requisition was with-
drawn. The reason assigned for this is, the general
opinion that Lord Dudley Stuart had been a party to the
retirement of Mr. Whittle Harvey.
At a meeting held at the Colosseum Tavern last even-
ing of the friends of Lord .Dudley Stuart, Mr. Alfred
Daniell in the chair, this report was brought under the
notice of the meeting. Lord Dudley Stuart thanked the
meeting for having given him the opportunity of answer-
ing so calumnious a charge against him. He had before
heard of it, but thought it too contemptible to be noticed.
The charge having now, however, assumed a more
serious shape by being .brought publicly forward, he
(Lord Dudley Stuart) bogged to state emphatically, that
neither directly nor indirectly had he been a party to
Mr. Daniel Whittle Harvey's retirement.
Yesterday evening Mr. Sergeant Shee addressed a
numerous assemblage of the electors and inhabitants of
Marylebone in the open air, in the Cumberlaud Ha) -
market, Regent's-park.
The Learned SERGEANT, after a few preliminary re-
marks, said, with respect to the retirement of Mr. D. W.
Harvey. that there was no doubt that gentleman had
grossly deceived the borough, and all those who trusted
in hire. There never was a greater instance in the poli-
tical history of this country of disinterestedness in the
support of a political cause than was manifested on the
late occasion to Mr. Harvey. He came before the elec-
tors, stating that he could not afford the ordinary ex-
pences of an election, and the people of Marylebone at
once said that they approved of his conduct in Parlia-
ment and they would bear all his expenses themselves.
—(Hear, hear.) With Lord Dudley Stuart and himself
(Mr. Sergeant Shee), Mr. Harvey entered into a solemn
engagement that if they would consent to have their
claims tested by a ballot of the whole electoral body,
whatever was his majority, if he succeeded, he would go
to the poll.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Harvey obtained a
large majority, and Lord Dudley Stuart and he (Mr.
Sergeant Shee) at once hewed to the decision on the
terms they had agreed to, an-I retired from the contest ;
and then four days afterwards Mr. Harvey said ho would
not be bound by his engagement.—(Cries of " Shame.")
If the conduct of Mr. Harvey was quite inexcusable in
this matter, that of the electors had been very much to
their credit. They hail preferred him to Lord Dalltsy_
Stuart and himself simply and solely on the ground of
his political services to the country, and therefore, what-
ever disgrace might attach to Mr. Harvey, none attached
to the electors of Marylebone. however,
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was now one, and the question was,,,
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Learned Sergeant then went on to ex
With respect to the
sentiments at considerable length. plain his p it i
Irish Church Establishment, and the P
the Roman Catholic priests,
he said, endowment meant
the support of a church establishment, which in its pre-
sent state was a disgrace and a scandal to Christendom.
—(Cheers.) It meant that the advocates of endowment
would bribe the Roman Catholic ests with money paid
eo le, in order to
out of the pockets of the English rooted and fixedp hostility
• duce them to forego their roote an
induce
anchurch which contained only 600,000 people among a
population of 8,000,000.
qiu'ehsattiownaosnwhat he meant, and
hebelieved there was no
the people of England which the minds of
were more made up than this—
that they never would consent to pay money out of their
own pockets to support that Church or any other church
inany part of the dominions under the Crown.—
(Cheers.) The state of things in England was very
different from what it was in Ireland, for in England a
uajori •ty of the people belonged to the Established
Cnurcb. Whilst lie said that, they were also to remota-
oer that according to his notions religion did not consist
.1 pounds, shillings, and pence.—(clear.) He thought
it no credit to any church establishment, much less to
one so wealthy as " the Church by law established,"
that it should extort money for the support of the

fabrics of the church from those who did not attend
its worship—(Cheers)—wrung from the hones t, con-
se:entious Dissenters—men who showed their con-
scientiousness bv paying their own pastors end build-
ing their Own- °churches—(Beer, hear)—and he said
that it was a shame and a disgrace for an Establish-
ment, which, to its great credit be it told, subscribed
annually somewhere about 100,0001. for the conversion
of the heathen, to extort money in the form of church-
rates from the pockets of those who had to build their
own churches and support their own ministers, but who
would not, on conscienticus grounds, attend the worship
f the Established Church.—(Cheers.)
Mr. MANN moved, and Mr. HAKE, of Mornington-
' crescent, seconded a resolution, which was unanimously
carried with-ace/lunation :
" That the meeting fully believed Mr. Sergeant Shee
the bohroitn ug
ath in
the Parliament,eusu ensuing
e
possessed talents and abilities beyond his rivals to repre-
sent
election."
Mr. themselves
to support Mr. FIELD, an elector, he're intimated to the Learned
Sergeant that he had been told
that a price had been
n
offered to him (Sergeant Shee) ocondition of his not
going to the poll. He wished to know if that
Mr. Sergeant SIIEE indignantly repelledi was so?
the statement,
and told Mr. Field and the meeting em hatically that he
pledged his honour as a gentleman and a public man,
that there was no price, no dignity, or place, which the
Crown had it in its power to bestow, which should
tc rept him not to go to the poll, or induce him to foret
the place which he now held as a candidate for the re-
presentation.
This declaration was received with the most enthu-
siastic cheering. and the meeting then separated.
Yesterday evening a meeting of the electors of Mary-
lebone, friends of Sir J. Hamilton, was held at the
Yorkshire Stingo. The meeting took place in the open
air, and was very numerous, but, judging from its com-
plexion we should say that non-electors greatly predo-
minated.
Sir J. HAMILTON, who was enthusiastically received,
addressed the meeting from a gallery, and explained his
opinions and views concerning the chief political topics,
to the same effect as he had treated them in his pub
.ished addresses. He dwelt strongly on his attachment
to Protestantism, and declared bis conviction, fortified
by the candid declaration of a Noble Lord (the Earl of
Arundel and Surrey), that nothing would satisfy the
Roman Catholics until mass was said in Westminster
Abbey and St. Paul's, and the host was carried through
our streets. He had been a resident in the parish for
thirty years, and his father had been a parishioner
before him, and it would still be, as it had been his ob-
ject, to promote whatever could advance the happiness
and improve the condition of the mass of the people.
Sir J. HAMILTON then declared that he was ready to
answer any questions which might be proposed to him—
an invitation which provoked so many questions that
Sir J. Hamilton goodhumouredly numbered the querists,
whose names were of course unknown.
No. 1 inquired whether the candidate would vote for
more bishops ? Sir James Hamilton replied that no
more bishops were asked for ; but if the government of
the Church of England desired more bishops, as they
would pay them out of the funds of the Church, not out
of the pockets of the people, this was a question for the
government of the Church to decide for themselves. But
it.more bishops were asked for, and it was proposed to
pay them from the pockets of the people, he should be
ready to oppose the proposition. The answer seemed to
silence, but not to satisfy the querist.
No. 2 asked whether Sir James was prepared to vote
for a repeal of the window duty? He replied he was,
upon condition that a substitute could be found. The
mention of a condition caused a little murmuring.
No. 3 desired to know whether the candidate was
prepared to vote for a repeal of the game-laws? Sir
James replied that they had not much game in Maryle-
bone just now; but, believing that the game-laws were
harsh, cruel, and oppressive, and calculated to create,
rather than repress, vice, he Ras prepared to support
their repeal.
• No. 4 asked whether Sir James was prepared to vote
for an amendment of the poor-law? He replied that he
had long been a guardian and director of the poor in this
parish, and he defied any man to go to their workhouse
and say that the comforts of the poor were not attended
to there. But with regard to the general operation of
the law, he was prepared to consider it, and it any of
the clauses were harsh and oppressive he should be read)
to vote for their repeal.
No. 5 inquired whether Sir Jams Hamilton would
vote for the abolition of capital punishment? He replied
that he would vote for its abolition except in two in-
stances—namely, for the crime of murder, which was
condemned by the Word of God, and for the licentious
violation of female virtue.
No. 6 asked, whether he was prepared to vote for the
ballot? Sir James Hamilton, with some significant
allusions to a recent " ballot" in this borough, an
swered flatly that he was not; and the answer was well
received.
No. 7 (his question came from the gallery) inquired
whether he 'would vote for changing the income-tax to
a property-tax ? Sir James Hamilton said he was
ready so to modify the tax as to relieve industry, and t.•
increase the tax upon property, so as to get rid of the
window duty and relieve industrious artizans.
The questions became now of a miscellaneous and
conflicting character, some
_of the questioners being
questioned in turn. At length,
The CHAIRMAN put to the meeting a resolution,
which had been moved by Mr. Simkin—
" That Sir James Hamilton Is a fit and proper person
to represent this borough in Parliament ; '
which was carried by acclamation, a few rebellious
hands being uplifted against it.
The usual vote of thanks to the chairman concluded
the meeting, which passed off in excellent humour, owing
greatly to the bonhornmie of Sir James Hamilton.