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practical vt'isilinn from the conduct of those, whom
we nnanimously, admire. For this system of
forbearific, %Vat, of mitigated . and half-afraid
hOstility, we are told there, two-fold
.
rea-
son, IVe are told that we have-friends in :Amer
rica: whom We ,Shoidd endeavour- • to conciliate
- by mildness, and that, we should be careful. to,
put oinseives, and to show:ourselves completely
the right. No man can subscribe mug readily:
than I do to the latterpropo4itifan. S 6 much sr, in,
deed, that I confess,l should contemplate. the.
most splendid. N.'i;,:tor that e.ver decerated the his-
torte page with little i.diniration, if it were gamed
in a, catisi manifestly unjust. It also inayb;, Wise
• to giVe that preponderance to the a-
party. n Arne-
ric-1 will not call 'it English, for that `would
be -unjust—,-good Americans, who love ?their.
country, and, who maintain the opinion that.
an alliance with England is preferable to an
alliance -with France. Besides, Sir, are we
Sure that by.,this mitigated hostility we are really
'playing the "game of the ,party:friendly to 'Us ? I
doubt it. 111 iniagine,a country (lividedintopar-
, • ties, one of which predicts the evils.that must fol-
.. low hoStility With England. :I caainot conceive a
-mode better calculated to, diminish the influence of.
that party than by making the hostility, when it
.does come, harmless ; thus repdering the prophets
• contemptible, and enabling those opposed to,
'them in politics to
.appeal to expel ience, from.
foreboding S.. But is this an ideal picture ?
I found the other day the report of a speech
•_ made by one of the party in America, .whom eve
are told we ought to conciliate•
.by forbearance.
This, 'gentleman, (Gen., German) endeavoured to
tleterhis countrymen froth war, by..in anticipation
,oftheevil's which. Great Britain could inflict upon
.Ainerica the montent.that war was declared. In
An address to, the Senate he observed, "that the
. •
consequence of the maritime superiority of
goat, Brjtain watild be the loss. of New Orleans,
from-W‘ iiich the:glish:,66lll.4 „not. be clislo&pl
OZ., • ••• E.n
. 'w)thout a great sacritice of blood ancftreasure; that
they alight then pass northwArd4mg, the American
c.,Wl$ t t (11aile,S ti.) aitd .1.0-1101 L if; and he asked
.V.,.'".if:they thought it: ,possible, tb defend those
of that they Would
.4°1;1) c in the possession
of the English in sik (figs.?" Ile assured the Se
thatif they calculated on the forbearance
of'theEnglish, they. wonld be deceived ;'.' and
• went on` to ridicule. the idea, that c.after the step
. •
'of detlaring war had been taken, any thing,
would 'postpone the vengeance Of -Great Britain.
"The step, has, been. taken,„ and the prophet
• .can be na longer respected. He is lost to us
' to any useful purpose.' • Every one knows, that,
`the inconveniences Which it is in the power of
an` enemy on the breaking, out' of a
• • war frequently retard that event.
• conveniences have passed -by, and A.Merica has
leos reason to dish for the discontinuance-of hos
' tilities. If, however, any. Man can_ slew
• that•six monthS spent in in , and
that to negociate with an enemy's, fleet instead of.
capturing it, are the • modes of :making. a.'Cause
• lust,' / • submit AO such proof. Biit, Sir, if it he
so-eery cle6irable to pit us in the right. on thisqucsriuon,
quesri,on, surely there, was a shorter Way.. The de-
clarlition- Of War oti the part bf Anierica was rc-
teivcd -aboiittile end of July. It imputed to
besides th'eOrdersincouncil (which have been suf-
fiCietitfy Jlisell6se.d.liqr:`! to render any finthser
servatio.is upon unnecessary),, Other Silt:lSt:3p-
gm-m(l6 oft:pupa-el; Which document inthe face
of the world and of posterity, remains unanswered !
• L it :not the custom of European diplomacy, •
when a-clechiration of war imputes to one nation
provocations to hostility, that the declaration of •
war on the part of the nation so accused, is ec-
.Companied by aP;iblie answer toathe deClaration.?
If, then, it AV aSi so desirable tolie:right, Paftia-
meni not being sitting, •-,wliN:ik,,aviire not
means resorted to by 'th'e,,-ktlectitive GoVern-
mut to rebut the attack ? inWhyatis there not
on the- Table of this Housti;.:2ll(l. why was
there not dispersed-through. Europe. an ample
'and -satisfactory refutation =of the' 1 charges
Treferred 'by the American Government ? ..This
Was 'rendered more desirable by the sup=
posed- -probability of an itimiediate resto.ration of
peace. For ' had peace been concluded, then it•
would have been 'too late the accusation would
have. been recorded, and .no public answeika it
would have been in existence. One of the iniptita-.
tion earitained in the declaration) was, that we
deinalicied' of. Ainerica that , she should force hits
produce and manufactures
.upon France. Such a
- demand would have been most unjust. Ihave
•no donbt that it •Vvaa never made. But it was
hifilY important,''' ninethat,o-:'a a 'month
titer the iirfciatulgation of iin • accusation
,it Should be refuted •by our‘.. Governmept.--
.• Another imiatted cause of ware' in which. I.
- 'ersonally impliCated, Was .'that in 180,9,
It=hen -we were in a anticable Pe,
:•gociaton with-. America; a misSion Was sent to dis-
.
• member the anion,, and to stir up I know not
avhat distinbances. Sir, aught to •IliiVe
been directly contradicted ,by 'our Govcrnment
its the face of Ktirope.' When I said that:l aviiS
pet stmally- implicated in ,this .it •p traps-
. action, 1 meant that at that periozr I 4acl
llionour to hold the: situation 'of the Seere'tarl-
0f State,' in whose" 'department such a transae-
-•-action, if it toOk.place at all, must have originated
'and 'I solemnly declare, to the' whole worm,
'tliatlf.such a mission was dispatched, .1 ,had' no
'earthly knoWledge of it i I was no party. to It, I
neiret heard of it>. until I' saw it iinputed to the
•,13ritisli Government in the .American declaration.
:The indignation which.r feel ,on my own dccount
- at this 'accusation, like ‘vise feel,tor, my Sove--
reign; and I contend,-:.that,, it is an accusation
which•ought to havibetainStantly and distinet--
ly repelled-,—Sir, there one 'point mote., not
comprehended' in the Speech and Addresa, 'but
ouiitted in them, to which I wish to advert.—
I ain not going to blame the 'oinissibn; bk. I
think I -should be. liable to -Islaineif iiassed by,
tke subject -in silence. The Polat- 'to Which.
211-tlthi is what is called Catholic .Ethaticipation.
1 impute no bhinie for the omission of . any
Ls:cation of this topic itthe speech, becausel do not
cc-iiceive. that The operation of the'inotion which'
.T.ad-the hohout, to Make last year, imposed On the_
Ly.ecttiire.GoVtinunent the duty of originating any
•

consideration of it. Certainly the motion whith T
lead in-contemplation originally to make, would
have unposed on thelLxecutiveGovernment. such a
duty ;,but
_as great chje.ctioals were madeby Gen
tfemen whose support t wish to secure, to tranS-
lerring the consideration of this important subject
from Parliament to the Executive Government; '1
• changed my intention, and contented Thyself with.
moving -11•e_ solutions of the. steps which Parliament
would take, -which Resolutions were laid atthe
foot of the Throne. These resolutions. -lid-not
_impose on the .Ii xecutive Government• the duty of
originating any'cOntideration of the que&tion .3 but
it did impose on them the duty of making their
minds to meet the discussion to which Parliament
was pledged. When; therefore, the.subject-shall'
disciissed elsewhere, I sballhe satisfied if I
.find that
Government have deliberated on the subject, and
have Made up their minds to meet it in- a manly_
manner. The opportunity of ascertaining this will
probably occur at no very Aistant period:. Those
who remember the occurrences of the last Session
will recolleetthat, at the suggestion of the Right,
Honourable 'Gentleman opposite; .seeonded by,
the recommendation of. the Honourable .gentle-
man near hith, I most willingly sUrrenderedithe
Catliblie cause to that- Venerable .and patriarchal
individual whObag'so frequently advOcated it with
unrivalled clOqueuce aria .entbusiasal. Into, his
ban s;I committed it; without -any pledge on-my .
owu part but that of genefat support, yetaining
a perfect discretion with respect to the pzirticular
course that eiromnstanceg. might induce ine to_
pursue. S%r, 'With the qualifications Which; J
have stated,- I cordially concur in the Address as
it goes to, pledge with heart and soil 411 "ti
ineanS-.afidresOurces of the -country at, our tlis7..
pOsal tO the prosecution of the contest in which'
we are engaged, niv conscience I believe
,that
there are,. no other niciinS of tertniGating it with
safety arid„honour. I am,persitatiedin Ithe spirit
of the" observations made by thse, able. seconder of
the AddresSi that the -greater the vigour_ With
Which we
,Carry on
,the war,. the nearei:. sinf-J1 IN'e ►
he: to the attainment of pettee..--Itis not. hesi-.
tation and indetison that- we can hope to obtain
that ohject, but by manly and inth!„fatigable per-,
severance in the Most Strenuous and unceasing
exertion."

' After a considerable panse—
The
.fT.,o:l',Ell• again put the question, and no
Meniber on the Opposition sliewing a disposition
to rise, . •
Lord iCASTLEREAO-11 said, that as the only tas
,apparently to be imposed on Ministers this night
was' rather to give explanation onplints which
might call for further investigation_hereafter, than
to meet any opposition on any of the political.tea-
tures of the Government, or of the subjects con-
tainedin the Prince Regent's. Speech, he.should
not find find it necessary. to enter very minutely-into
the consideration ofthe valions matters Whieli had
been touched upon-. Considering what liad fallen
fi Qln the Right Hon. Gentleman who .spoke last to
• be callingfor explanation, -rather than As differing
opinion from those who had preceded him, he
(Lorti C.) had waited in expectation, that if any
,Hon. Gentleman on the oppOsite side had, any fur-
titer informrtion to require, thatthey, would state
what such information was, and thus-enable him
'at the same time to reply to them, and endeavoiir
to satisfy the Right nom Gentleman. It was no
small gratification to the country, and to: the
Prince _Regent's Ministers, at this momentous and
difficult crisis of the world, to find,.on the opening
of: a new Parliament, that the only :claim upon
them was for an explanatiOn'of the general princi-
ples of poliey by which their future actions were
to be regulated; and that there appeared no ground
for 'censure, no cause for compiaint„and no source
for apprehenSion or -discouragement. It in-.
deed evident that the prospects of the-country were
improved for if this had not been broadly fonnd7
ed at fact, he would this night have made.,upou
him demands of a Very different nature from those
which had been made. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man had With perfect. propriety divided, the eouo-
- of the'Subjeet before. ihe Honse into tivo•
parts, connected with the external and internal si-
tuation of the country, and had applied himself ge-
nerally to the former.,' :This in itself is is another
sottl'Cr. cif gratification to' him, and most,. he wag:
sure; .be equally satisfactory to.thcH.puiei when
they considered the state in whichthey were about
the period of the end •of the lakSesSion of Parlia.;
meat. -When'they reflected on the condition of
some of theitounties at that time, they .Would
inclined.to think that his Majesty's 'Ministers had
a very difficult task to perform,and would agree in
what -had-been so ably stated by the Noble Mover
.and Hon. Seconder of the Address-,.. that there was
great cause for congratulation in the termination of
noSe diffieulties, by the means which `Parliament
provided,-Meao devised in the spirit of conciliation,
althonah Wcuhtted t6' ri•press. the
,system.Of
'subordination 'that then' unhappily existed: In
the aliminiStration of those laws with which-they
Were armed,- it was_pleasing to him and his
,col
leagues to observe,: that there was no insinuation
Of an abuse 'of power ; and it -was squally gratify •
ing-t6 grim tO:loVe*.tostke, that the.people them-
selvesby their own good sense and alltgiance had
'retraced their mistaken steps; and that their rege-
neration is id grown more out of their disposition
than out.of 'the tfficacy Or- enforcement of the le-
g,islatiVe provisions W • `which had been. 'resorted to.
In looking to the larger blanch of the ,question_to
'which the Right Hon. Gentleman 'had directed his
rittention---Llarger as- it idseeted• the security and
'destinies of the world-43a must treSpasS at some-
what ;greater length upon the patience of the
House; in -order, not to discuss fully, the several
important pronositiods started, but to record-what
Might 'be the grounds on whiCh. Ministers would
Meet dick, various inquiries, and. if necessary,
defend thems-elyes 'from attack, should they. be
Made matter of accusation. His-task in this would
have been.much narrower, if the: Right Honour.:
able Gentleinan had not built much of the reason
for his reserve' in 'cordially agreeing with the Ad-
dress that had just been moved, o'n assumptions
entirely inapplicable to Ministers, and withont.
foinidation in point of fact. This tlie-.ltight.lion.
Gentleman hid done in the absenee of that,infor-
.niation•which it was impassible for any person 110
in-the Government to possess, but Which he would

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