The Sun.
London, England, 1840-06-26 00:00:00

For the Motion
Aga'nst it 122
Majority
Mr. O'CONNELL begged to know whether the Bills
Which bad been passed by the Legislature of Jamaica
would be latl upon the table of the lious?
Lord J. RUSSEL'S answer did not reach the gallery.
Mr. HUME was most anxious that these Bills should
be laid before the Ifouse. lie found that the object of
tome of them was to restrict the labour of the free negrees
atid to keep up the system of monopoly which had so long
existed in the \Vest Indies.
The Bill then went through a Committee, and the
House resumed.
COUNTY CONSTABULARY.

On the motion of Mr. FOX MAULE, the County
Constabulary Bill was re-committed.
Mr. FIUME wished to correct a mi,representa-
tion of what he had said when the Bill was in Com-
mittee on a former occasion. Ile had referred to the
opinion of Mr. Bennett, who was anxious that the consta-
bulary should be placed ' under the Secretary of State as
a centralizing power. There was nothing he wss more
opposed to than such a system. He had been represented
as having supported that system of centralization, which
was quite contrary to the fact.
On clause 21 being read,
Mr. F. MA GLE moved the following amendment :
To insert, after •' be it enacted, that," " Notwithstanding
anything contained in the said Act of the last Session of
Parliament, the constables or watchmen appointed in and
for any parish under the said Act of the fourth year of
the reign of his late Majesty, or in and for any town or
any place under any such local Act as last aforesaid, and
not discontinued before the passing of this Act, shall con-
tinue to act in their respective appeintments, and shall be
subject to the same authorities as heretofore ; and all
such Acts shall continue in force until it shall be notified
by the chief censt,ble of the county in which such parish,
town, or place is situated, to the Inspectors, Commis-
sioners, or other persons having authority over such con.
stables or watchmen as aforesaid, by writing under his
band, that he is ready to undertake the charge of such pa-
rish, town or place, on some day to be specified in the notice,
which notice shall be published within such parish, town, or
place is such manner as shall seem fit to the chief constable,
for the purpose of making the same to be generally known,
and upon the day so named the watchmen or constables
appointed within such parish, town, or place, under the
the said Act of the fourth year of the reign of his late
Majesty, or under such local Act, shall be discontinued as
a separate force; and all powers for assessing and levjing
any rate in such parish, town, or place, the whole or any
part of which shall be applical_;_e to the payment of such
- watchmen or constables, or any expenses incident there-.
unto, vial' cease so far as such powers relate to any e hole
rate so applicable, or to that part of any rate which
shall be so applicable, except for such purposes as
arc herinaftcr mentioned." And at the end of the
Clause, " Provided also, that where any parish, town,
or place in which constables have been appointed under
any such local Act shall be situated in more than one
county, such notice shall not be given by the chief con-
stables of either county to the Commissioners or other
persons having authority over the constables in such pa.
• risb, town, or place, until after the constables shall have
been appointed under the first recited Act, in each of such
counties."
After a few words from Mr. DARBY and Lord G.
SOMERSET, the amendments were agreed to.
Clauses 22 end 23 were agreed to without discussion.
On the reading of the 24th clause,
Mr. BRUGES objected that the clause would deprive
the Magistrates of certain counties of a very necessary
power of control over the constabulary. He moved, there-
ore, that the whole of the clause which disqualifies the
Magistrates of Kent, Essex, Hertfordshire, and Surrey
from acting in the execution of the Constabulary Act, 2
and 3 vie., c. 93, be omitted.
Mr. FOX MAULE defended the clause. He said the
object of the clause was, to prevent the Magistrates who
had property in those counties, from being out-voted by
Justices who had none.
Lord GRANVILLE SOME R S ET opposed the clause.
Sir GEO. STRICK LA ND thought the elastic ought
to be made more general, as it was unjust that a Magis-
trate should have a power of taxing a district where he
had no property.
Mr. G. PA LMER supported the amendment.
Mr. HA WES said, that as the clause only applied to
four counties, it ought only to be looked to in its re-
stricted operation.
After a few words from Mr. SLANEY, Mr. DARBY,
and Mr. PR YME,
Mr. FOX MAULE said that he had introduced the
Clause solely for the protection of Magistrates living in the
rural parts of the country. When, however, he consi.
dered the opposition offered to it he deemed it his duty
to withdraw the clause.
Clause 24 was then ordered to stand part of the Bill.
On clause 23 being put,
Mr. PR YME moved that the Matistracy of the Isle of
Ely should he exempted from the operation of the Bill.
Mr. FOX MAULE had no objection to accede to the
intendment.
The• clause as amended was then ordered to stand part
of the Bill.
On the motion of Mr. FOX MAULE, some new
clauses were agreed to, on the understanding that they
Should be considered on the bringing up of the Report.
• Mr. FOX MAULE then brought up a clause, to pie-
,ride that each district should payfor its own constables.
Mr. LANGDALE wanted to know whether the Bill
• was to be re-committed.

Mr. FOX M AUL E said, Nl. At that period of the
Session is would be impossible to get through with that
• . Bill, if that course were to be taken.
The House resumed. The Report brought up ; to be
considered this day week; the clauses to be printed in the
mean time.
The House then went into Committee on the Railways
en the motion of Lord Seymour. The Bill went
: ' through Committee without remark, and the Report or.
'"..,dared to be received on Monday.
Mr. P. MA ULE moved the Order of the Day for going
Committee on the Chimney Sweepers' Bill.
'' The House went into Committee, Mr. PRYME in the
r, Chair.

'll, Clause I was agreed to.
bf! On clause 2 being proposed,
Mr. WILLIAMS wished to know what was to be done
:44 old houses. He, for one, would not like to pull down
sis house.
Mr. F. AIAULE said ne doubt some inconvenience and
- expense would be the effect of the Bill, but he thought
that would be as nothing, compared with the humanity of
the Bill.
Sir R. INGLIS said he believed that of old chimneys
lot one in 2,000 but could be swept by machines.
• Mr. GOULBURN said he happened to be one of
the unfortunate individuals who possessed the one chimney
out of 2,000, but still he was not prepared to oppose the
motion.

Mr. FOX MAULE said with reference to the notice
given by the Hon. Member for Finsbury, of a motion that
Counsel should be beard at the bar against the Bill, he
Was informed it was his intention to withdraw it.
Mr. HE ATHCOTE said he should be a sufferer by
this Bill, but he thought it so desirable the cruelties now
Practised should be abolished that he felt it his duty to
support it. They were in the habit of seeking for cruel-
ties practised abroad, while it not unfrequently happened
that cruelties as (Treat were practised in their own houses.
He begged to thank the Hon. Gentleman for introducing
this Bill, and lie thought, considering his numerous official
occupations, the having done so was very much to his
honour —( Hear.)
Lord A SHLE 1* said he had no notion cruelties so barbs-
!°o.s could be perpetrated in any civilized country as had
been recently brought under his notice as perpetrated in re-
lation to the subject of this Bill. It was a fact within his own
personal knowledge that at the present moment a child of
4i; years, another at 6, and others of a similar tender age,
svere employed in sweeping chimneys. The fact, also,
that 23 climbing-boys were now confined for various of-
lencos in Newgate, was sufficient to prove the bad moral
effects of the system.—( Hear.)
After a desultory conversation the clause was agreed to.
On clause 3 being put, which enacted that no person
under the age of 16 should be employed in the chimney-
sweeping trade,
Mr; ELLIOT thought such a provision extremely
hard, as it would have the' effect of preventing a father
from employing his son under 16 years of age, even to
carry the soot-b.:g, or any other article connected with the
• trade. He should therefore move to strike out the word
16 for the purpose of inserting 12.
Sir G...GREY suggested that no boy should be ap-
Izi, prenticced to the chimney-sweeping trade under 16 years o
age.
Mr. ELLIOT concurred in this suggestion.
M. SLANEY and Mr. LANGDALE opposed the
suggestion of the Right Hon. Baronet. It would not be
a full protection to the boy.
After some further conversation, strangers were ordered
to withdraw. No division, however, took place, and we
understood that the suggestion of Sir George Grey was
• agreed to.
On clause 5 being proposed,
• Mr. HANDLEY moved that the word " re-built" be
left out.
Mr. F. MAULE tl.ought the Bill would be very much
deteriorated by the omission of the word.
Tho ATTORNEY-GENERAL suggested, that the
words " if practicable" should be added after the word
" re-built."
Mr. HANDLEY agreed to the suggestion, but seve-
ral Hon. Members objecting to the adoption,
The Committee divided, when there appeared,
For inserting the words ll
Against it 74
Majority against inserting the words 63
The remaining clauses were then agreed to.
The House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be
brought up this day.
The Frivolous Suits Bill was then read a third time and
passed.
The Arms (Ireland) Bill then went through Committee.
In bringing up the Report upon the Glass Duties Bill,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated
that the Bill would not come into operation until the 15th
of August, instead of the Ist of that month, as had gene-
rally been supposed in the trade.
Mr. R. STE UA RT obtained leave to bring in a Bill
to authorise and empower the Lords Commissioners of
th *Treasury to grant a lease of the Caledonian Canal for
storm cf years, and to regulate the future management
thereof.
Lord HOWICK moved for a copy of a minute in
Council of the Governor-General of India, respecting the
issue of pay to her Majesty's troops serving in India, dated
May the 7th, 1834. Copy of any warrant, dated subse-
quently to the !st day of January 1840, for regulating the
issue f pay to her Majesty's troops serving in the terri-
tories of the East India Company ; also of any instruc-
tions upon the same subject which have been forwarded,
since the above date, by the Direetois of the East India
Company, or the Secretary at War, to the Civil or Mili-
tary Authorities in India. Statement, showing the quan-
tity- of pure silver in the rupee coined by the East India
Cerepany, and .the value thereof at the present market.
price of silver, Statement, showing—what changes, if anv