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London, England, 1847-07-09 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, July 8.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool-
sack at Five o'clock.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
A message from the Commons brought up a great
number of private Bills, in the course of which
Lord BROUGHAM rose, and with some warmth,
said ho would put it to their Lordships whether this
nuisance of bringing up Bills from the Commons one
by one ought to be continued? They were now at the
most important period of the session, they had probably
not more than a fortnight to sit, and he thought it was
too much to have three-quarters of an hour of their
valuable time wasted in bringing up Bills which might
be brought up in five minutes. He thought if a Com-
mittee was appointed to inquire into the subject the evil
Might be remedied.
Lord REDESDALE said that such a Committee had
teen appointed.
Lord BROUGHAM was sorry that he had not pressed
hie motion on the subject on the attention of the House.
21. e should move that the messengers from the Commons
should not be admitted.
After some observations from the Marquis of LANS-
DOWNE and the Earl of REDESDALE,
Lord BROUGHAM withdrew his motion, and the
Messengers from the Commons sent up a great number
of Bills.

WELLINGTON STATUE.
Lord BROUGHAM said that on the 18th of June,
1837, a day for ever memorable in the history of the
World, as being the anniversary of the battle of Waterloo,
• number of persons feeling grateful to the Noble Duke,
and considering themselves bound to testify it, collected
looney to the amount of thirteen thousand pounds, for
the purpose of making a testimonial to the illustrious
Commander. What that testimonial should be was left
open for discussion, and when the committee went to his
late Majesty William IV., and represented that there was
lie precedent for erecting a memorial to a private indi-
vidual upon the palace property, he answered that they
should make one ; and her present Majesty, under the
advice of Lord Melbourne, confirmed that decision, and
was graciously pleased to authorise the erection of the
statue upon the very arch which it now adorned. It
Was on the distinct and express statement that the
Statue should be placed upon the arch that the
committee again appealed to the public, and
12,000/. more was subscrilled • and if it was removed
there would be a direObreach of 'contract and faith with
the public. He understood that the more persons of
taste examined its situation, the more they were irn-
Premed with the feeling that it was well placed in point
of beauty and effect. His opinion on a master of taste
Was valueless, and although he considered that the horse
was not like one of the Elgin marbles, and was
too real in its position, and not sufficiently ideal,
Yet he considered that the statue ought to remain where
it Was. And he was the more impressed with this
opinion, when he was aware that it would give great and
deep ofence to the Noble Duke to remove it. The Noble
Lord then went on to observe how justly such a compli-
ment was due, and observed that the statue was not the
Property of the Government but of the subscribers ;
and, concluded by saying, " And now, remove it if you
dare."—(Cheers.)
Lord LANSDOWNE—Am I to understand that the
Noble Lord makes a motion?

Lord BROUGHAMLIes; I move for all the papers
and correspondence connected with the Wellington
statue.

Lord LANSDOWNE said that he had reason to com-
plain of the line of conduct adopted by the Noble and
Learned Lord. He had not given notice of his motion,
and while he agreed to the motion, he could not but take
an Opportunity of entering his protest against such a
course.

REWARD TO NAVAL OFFICERS.
The Earl of HARD WICKE moved that an humble
address be presented to her Majesty, praying her Ma-
jesty to be graciously pleased to direct that the order of
the Admiralty, dated the Ist of June (directed to all
Perseus serving on board any ships of war, engaged with
the enemy, between the year 1793 and 1815, the captain
of which ship shall have received a medal for any action
during that period), be directed to all persons serving
on board any ship of war engaged with the enemy be-
,tyeeen the years 1793 and 1846. the captain of which
-Ship shall have received a medal ; or where the fleet, or
squadron, or ship shall have received the thanks of both
Rouses of Parliament ; or where the Commander-in-
Fbief shall have been created a Peer, or received a step
'll the peerage, for any action with the enemy during
that period. He would not detain their Lordships by
any arguments, because he rested his case on simple
facts. In the order of the Admiralty, on the Ist of
June, the medals are limited solely to those who have
been previously decorated. The only reason why such
rule Was insisted on, was, because it was done in the
-req. It was the misfortune of the navy to be governed
,political men, each succeeding Government intro-
unced a change into the composition of the Board of
the Admiralty, while the army was governed
lita chief, who was essentially non-political.
e would move the resolution pro forma in order to
ZriPg it under the notice of the House, and with the
hope of directing the attention of the Admiralty to the
injustice which had been committed towards a great
ntunber of brave men. He had not been urged on in
making this motion by any party motives.—(Hear,
hear.) Various expedients had been proposed to bring
the subject properly before the Legislature—it had been
Proposed they should petition the Qteen, but the men
concerned felt indisposed to ask for honours which were
not the free gift of the Queen, and they therefore unani-
nintislY refused adopting such a course.
i.Lord AUCKLAND said that the Government were
k_enliged to adopt some precise rule by which they would
enabled to guide their conduct, and it was in follow-
ing out such a course that the present motion had
its orig.n. He was fully alive to the claims of those
Whose case had been so ably advocated, and it might be
some satisfaction for him to know that their case would
be re-considered.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord COLCHESTER said that he was delighted to
hear the statement of the Noble Lord opposite. Great
injustice had certainly been done in passing over men
'who had so much distinguished themselves in 1815. He
did not see why those men had been excluded from well
earned honours. They had encountered serious damages
tu defence of their country, and should be proportionably
rewarded. In conclusion, he must express his gratifica-
t'en at the statement of the Government.—(Hear, hear,)
The Duke of RICHMOND said that although he dif-
fered so much from the Noble Lord, yet he was glad
Pon this occasion that he could coincide with him.
whence arose all these difficulties, it was because former
Governments did not do their duty. lle considered that
those veterans who had served in Egypt ought to have
been included, and they ought not to consider that the
armyt would be satisfied at being passed over. He hoped
the Government would do a further act of justice, and
Telude them in any consideration which they gave to
the question.—(Hear, hear.)
The Earl of .MALMESBURY thanked the Govern-
tnent for the act of justice which they were about to
Perform, which would have a highly beneficial influence
°llboth services.
Earl GREY reminded the House that the value of
these medals was enhanced by the great reserve and
caution with which they were distributed, and they
Were never given but for distinguished services. He
greatly feared that if they departed from the principle
which had hitherto guided them that they would do a
LiLst injury to the country. A serious question arose as
" li whether greater inconvenience did not arise fromting
an
titlte, MN to alter former decisions, than by permit
4,7 a to rest as they were.
he Duke of RICHMOND explained his allusion to
the services of the veterans of Et ; he did not think
gyp
he would have been acting justly towards those gallant
1111" if he did not mention the hardships to which they
ad been subjected.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that, looking fairly at
lee services of officers who were subjected to very hard
service, feeling poignantly some other officers being de-
corated for some particular service in which they had the
good fortune to be engaged on some one particular occa-
sion, he considered a positive injury would be done to the
service if rewards for personal bravery were not given
Where they were deserved.
After a few words from the Earl of STRAFFORD,
the motion was withdrawn.

CLERGY OFFENCES BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
MILITIA BALLOTS SUSPENSION BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF G'OMMONS. July 8.
The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly after Twelve
o'clock.

SECOND READINGS.
The London Bridge Approaches Fund Bill was read
second time, and ordered to be committed.
THIRD READINGS.
The Sutton Harbour Improvement Bill was read a
'third time and passed.
REPORTS.
The following Reports were brought up, and agreed
.to :
Itlandford and Bruton Railway.
Bristol and Exeter Railway (Taunton and Castle Cary
Branch).
Brooks' Divorce.
Dollar Institution (Mylne's or M'Nabb's) Estate.
Exeter, Yeovil, and Dorchester Railway and Branches.
Goddard's Estate.
Great Western Railway (Extension of the Berks and
Rants Railway from Hungerford to Westbury, with a
Branch to Devizes).
titiggens' College Incorporation.
Salisbury and Yeovil Railway.
LORDS' AMENDMENTS.
The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were
considered and agreed to:—
Birmingham, Wolverhampton, and Dudley Railway
(Stourbridge and West Bromwich).
44-stern Counties Railway (Purchase of the North Wool-
wich, Railway, &c.)
East Lancashire Railway (Deviations and Rawtenstall
, Coal Branch).
*r4flinburgh and Bathgate Railway Deviation and Amend.
went.
Edinburgh, Leith, acid Granton Railway (Leith Exten-
sion).
Edinburgh, Leith, and Granton Railway (Leith and
Granton Junction).
ureat Northern Railway (Hertford, Hatfield, and St.
Albans Branch).
Guildford Extension and Portsmouth and Fareham
Railway.
ddersfield and Manchester Railway (Deviations and
,_.A.lterations in Oldham Branch, &c.)
Vl...ernes& Harbour and Navigation.
erness Municipal and Police, &c.
'44°11,a00 and North-Western Railway (Lease and Pur-
chase of the Huddersfield and Manchester Railway
and Canal, and the Leeds, Dewsbury, aad Manchester
',4l,ray).