The Sun.
London, England, 1847-03-11 00:00:00

I MR. CANNING'S INTRODUCTION told him I was disappointed " that Mr. :9-- had not
TO LIVERPOOL. fulfilled his promise"—that he had not given me an
I(From the Liverpool Courier.) opportunity of meeting him, as he had Engaged to do;
" Time makes great aleeations, and changes many and I remarked that it had elevated him se. much that he
things." Who can disteue it ? Attend, and you shall had entirely forgot what he had undertaken to perform.
know how Liverpool became honoured by having the At the same time, I told him that I experienced an in-
Right Honourable Gt orge Canning as a representative expressiblegratification at theglorious result; and Icon-
in Parliament. eluded by congratulating
In the year 1808, I was in London, engaged on some which I received the following answer :
mercantile business ; and, daring the time I was there, I " Gloucester Lodge, Brompton,
received a letter from a friend, wherein I was requested " Jan. 23, 1813.
to: make application to General Tarleton, the Member " Sir,--I bane to acknowledge the pleasure of your
fur Liverpool, for his assistance to procure the release of letter of the 9th instant, and to apologise for not having
a young man who had been impressed out of a ship in done_lBlo, which I thought (and still think) I have so sooner. I wished to refer to your former letter
the river Thames. I accordingly went to Clarges• street,
of
care-
where the General resided, and, ashen I came to the door,
fully preserved, but I have not been able to find it. I
I saw a servant in liverand I inquired from him rem
did net reside remember it, however, with sufficient correctness to be
whether General Tarleton . nq
there ? he said
satisfied that your reference to it is correct, and I am
he did. I told him that I wished much to see him ;he re- happy in the opportunity of thanking you for it, and
plied that his master had forbidden him to admit any one for the kindness, of which I have no doubt you have
—he was sorry, humid, but must refuse me. I then asked
followedlast.
with it up, to the completion of your good wishes, in
him if he would deliver a note to the General for me, and October
" I am sorry that you should think that in our meet-
wellwith some hesitation he s tid he would. I was not very
ing at the ball I showed anything like displeasure or dis-
pleased with the "kindness and tiffabiliv" of
app-iintinent. I do assure you I intended no such thing.
our ce'ebrated General: and I returned to my lodgings,
In the course of the election, I had, at my own desire,
indignantand dissatisfied that he had given directions that
no one should he admitted, and that I could not see him_been introduced to another gentleman of your name,
I had begun a letter in the evening to my correspondent, whose recep ion of me convinced me of my mistake, and
the recoil ction of this circumstance may possibly (though
and was °lying him an account of my ill success, whein.a
I am by no means conscious that it did so) have OCCa•
note was brought me, and, upon opening it, I found
slimed an awkwardness from the apprehension of a repe-
came from Clarges-street. It was written by
tition of it. Most confidently I can assure you, that no
Tarlet ,n. his lady, and in a style that irritated toe still.
other feeling of an unpleasant sort was ever in my mind.
more; and I came to the reselutien of not only declinint,
Quiw the contrary. Once more I thank you, as well for
all interference in his favour in future, but to do alls i
your former lette as for the explanatory one which you
my power to prevent him being again returned
era
have now had thengodss to write to me, and I beg you
Member of Parliament for Liverpool. Not long a.t -
to believe me, with very sincere acknowledgment, your
wards, General Tarleton join:el the Oppositionbench,.
obliged and faithful servant,
and by this means displeased nine-tenths of his consta
teents who had supported and elected him. While I re-
mained in London, I went to the House of Common,, to
hear them debate and harangue; and I wis particularly
Pleased with the eloquence and sentiments of the Right
Honourable George Canning; and, on my return to
Liverpool, I introduced Mr. Canning's name and abilities
to various parties, and reptetented him as a gentleman
that would do them credit by returning him as their
Memher. Some assented to it; others said, " Canning
won't stand, he'll not troub'e himself with Liverpool
while he can get into Parliament through a small
borough," My next question was, " Will yet: give him
Your vote and interest, should he be offered?" and the
invariable answer was, " I most certainly will." I could
not believe that Mr. Canning would refuse to become a
candidate for Liverpree if respectably called upon; and
as there vt as great prospect of a disvolutien of Parlia-
ment taking place at the be inning of 1810, I sat down
one evening, and wrote him a letter, of which the follow,
ing is a copy:—

"Liverpool, 28th March, 1810.
"TO THE RIGHT HONOURABLE GEORGE CANNING.
" Sir,—For an humble individual to address you may
be deemed presumption, but I trust my motive may
plead for an apology. Without further preface, I will
explain the purport of my letter.
"It has long been a matter of regret that the repre-
ntatives of this large commercial town should have
been gentlem,m in the army, who are not very eminently
distinguished for their abilities in the senate, or re-
nowne for their achievements in the field. This senti-
ment operated so strongir in the November election,
1805. that the otherwise favourite candidate found him-
self in a minority, and lost his election, from the dere-
liction of some and the supineness of others. The for-
tunate candidate, Mr. Roscoe, whose name, until this
period, was little known to the populace, resounded
through the town, and swept, like a torrent, all before it,
and his private virtues and literary attainments occa-
sioned his political opinions not to be inquired into, and
his eloquence and unassuming conduct hushed to silence
any who distrusted his politics. A short period in the
House of Commons developed his political views and
sentiments, and upon his next appeal to his constituents
he was received coolly by many who had been most
strenuous in his support the preceding November, and
opposed by others who were connected with him by the
ties of friendship ; and this was the real cause of his
withdrawing from the contest.
" That powerful interest, which returned General
Tarleton in May, 1807, is again divided in opinion as in
1806, by the line of conduct the Hon. General has
thonght proper to adopt in the House, so diametrically
opposite to the sentiments of that body who supported
and elected him ; and should a dissolution suddenly take
Mace, unless some ponular candidate of the illustrious
Pitt steps forth, the Whig party, although weak, will,
without much opposition, realise their threat of sending
two Members of Parliament for this borough. It appears
to be tacitly agreed upon by all parties, that the present
Members will never be returned, and it appears very im-
probable that any one of the wealthy merchants will be
%elected and raised to so distinguished an honour. Now,
Sir, as the administration of which you formed a part
was most decidedly popular here, and you the most popu-
lar Minister of that administration, would it be incon-
siitent with your views and principles to offer yourself
at the next election, and shield, by the lustre of your
talents, this borough from such diigrace? Its import-
ance and loyalty are deserving so conspicuous a
distinction. _ _ _ _

" Permit me again to apologise for detailing thus mi-
nutely the state of parties in Liverpool, and should you
deem my letter intrusive, attribute it to that admiration
of your eminent talents which all are unanimous in
nekn-wledging with, Sir, your most obedient and mo.t
humble servant,, "THOMAS TURNER."

When Mr. Canning received the foregoiov. letter the
House of Commons was busily employed in the investi-
gation of certain charges, brought by Colonel Wardle
against his Royal Highness the Duke of York ; as soon
as he was at leisure, I received the following letter in
reply :

" April 1.1810.

" Sir,—Ths incessant occupation of 'the Boum of
Commons, since I had the honour to receive your !utter
of Wednesday last, will. I hope, excuse me to you for
not having acknowl,dged it sooner.
" I beg you to believe that I tun duly sensible of the
kind and fluttering manner in which you have had the
goodness to express yourself towards me, and that no
m-in can estimate more highly than Id() the value of the
objf•ct which you so obligingly hold out to me.
" At the same time you will not thi,4k it extraordinary
that, to a question so unexpected, and involving so many
c .nsiderations, both of a public and a personal nature, I
shculd not be prepared at once to give a precise and
positive answer.
" In or out of office. it would always be a great grati-
fica•ion to me to have reason to believe that my conduct
had recommended me to the good opinion of the town of
Liverpool.
"If the trust of representing ft in Parliament were to
be delegated to me, I should accept it with pride, and, I
hope. discharge it with fidelity.
But, on the other hand, unconnected as I am with
Liverpool or any of its inhabitants, I should not pre-
sume to ' offer myself' to their choice.
" And I ought to add, thikt my private circumstances
put wholly out of the question my incurring the hazard
of any such expense as a cont"st for Liverpool would
possibly occasion •—I have the honour to be, Sir, your
obliged and most obedient humble servant.
" GEORGE CANNING.
" Thomas Turner, Esq.,
"P.S.—I write from the country, but my address is
London."

" T. Turner, Esq."
The election was now over, and the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman was returned as Member of Parliament for
Liverpool; and the many beautiful speeches he made to
the populace, at the close of each day, raised him in
their estimation, and created among his supporters an
admira,ion approaching to enthusiasm. At the close of
the poll each day he addressed the crowd who thronged
to hear him; and I have selected the following paragraphs
from a work, which is very creditable to Mr. Kaye as
publisher. On the speaker they confer infinite honour:
If, gentlemen, such marks of kindness had been
experienced by one who had been born and bred
amongst you, or who, fortunately for himself, had the
opportunity of deserving something at your hands for
services previously rendered to you, such proofs of
friendship as you have bestowed on me must have been
gratifying beyond the lot of human gratification; but
when I reflect that these expressions of esteem and
affection are lavished on a stranger—upon one who has
neither served you nor been known to you before, I
confess I am absolutely overwhelmed by these reflec-
tions, and want words to express feelings which I have
not the power to control." * * * "Of Liverpool,
gentlemen, I knew nothing a week ago but by report as
a great sad opulent town, deeply interested in the pros.
perity of the kingdom, and contributing largely to that
prosperity by its own industry and enterprise." • * *
" I have found generally prevailing among you, not a dis-
position to separate the local and peculiar interests of Li-
verpool from those of the country at large, and to pur-
chase a respite to yourselves at the expense of national
interest and honour. No,gentlemen, I have found here a
lofty and determined spirit, patient under difficulties
known to be unavoidable, and never looking to partial
relief or benefit as connected with the general good."
* * • "My short experience of Liverpool has shown
me that one of the most opulent, the most skilful, and
the most adventurous communities that ever grew great
by trade, is also the most alive to every sentiment by
which wealth can be ennobled." * * * " Gentlemen

Mr. Brougham is a man of great talents, and invited as
he was by the intreaties of his friends, he could not well
forbear presenting himself to you. Bet ween him and me
the freemen of Liverpool haveexercised their free choice.
I need not say how flattered, how delighted I am by the
preference ; but the victory is yours, not mine." * * *
"I congratulate you on your final success ; the contest
has been a contest of principles, and not of persons : al-
though I should belie my own feelings if I were not to
confess that to the latest hour of my life I shall be nroud
that the battle has been fought in my person, and that
my name has been associated with your exertions, and
illustrated by your triumph. You, gentlemen, have done
me the honour to select me, in order that by your re-
turning me to represent your opinions in Parliament,you
might vindicate the freedom of your choice, the loyalty
of your principles, and the consistency of your cha-
racter." * * * "In the course of a political
life of no very short duration, I have had many
duties to fulfiL I have endeavoured to fulfil them to
the best of my power. A new duty is now cast '
upon me to which I have hitherto been a stranger,—
the duty of representing one of the most en-
lightened, the greatest, the most powerful, and the most
wealthy communities of this great kingdom ; a duty
involving many minor duties, all of which, however,
may be summed up very shortly, thus—that I am to be
faithful to your principal interests, but true, at the same
time, to the general interests of the country." * * *
" In truth, our interest is not at variance with our cha
ratter, for scarcely is the commercial prosperity of Li-
verpool more closely interwoven with the greatness of
the country than is the permanent greatness and the
safety of England connected with the freedom and peace
of Europe." * * * * " Gentlemen, to preserve
to you your just weight in the concerns of the country,
is my duty as representative of Liverpool : to preserve
t ) that country unimpaired its just rank and power among
the nations of the world, has always been the doctrine of
my political creed, and the object of my political con-
duct." • • " I am naturally led to say a few
words on the subject of the connexion which I have had
the happiness to form with you, and which you are kind
enough to describe as auspicious and honourable. To
have been called in such a manner to the representation
of this great and respectable town, would be, if my poli-
tical life should terminate to-morrow, as glorious an end
of it as I could have desired ; but when the commence-
ment of our connexion is accompanied on your part by
an expression of your wish that it may be perpetuated,
I know not how to thank you." " • • " Gentle-
men, with the most heartfelt acknowledgment, with feel-
ings of gratitude which words are too weak to convey,
and of pride which I dare not trust myself with express-
ing ; with the sense of the honour you have conferred
upon me, less gratifying only than my sense of the
kindness with which you have overwhelmed me ; with
sentiments such as till this day I never knew, but which
I shall recollect with delight until the latest hour of my

On the receipt of this letter, I continued to canvass
and to introduce Mr. Canning's name, at all times, as
the future representative of Liverpool ; and I sedulously
brought the subject forward. until I found that the ru-
mour of a di,s,:lution of Parliament (that had been Pre-
valent) began to subside, and I had more time to mature
what I had so anxiously desired might be accomplished.
Tewo years passed over, and at the beginning of 1812 I
began to be very uneasy on the subject, and I deemed
it proper to solicit the as,istance of a friend, and I se-
lected Mr. John D---, jun., for the purpose, and we
met by appointment at the York Hotel. I then entered
two the minutiae. and showed him Mr. Canning's letter.

He read it with astonishment; and after talking the
matter over some time, he undertook to give me all the
assistance that lay in his power, and exert himself to
induce his friends to join him in the cause. For this
purpose I lent him tne letter I had received from Mr.
Canning (taking off the envelope). and he road it to his
friends in various parties. At such times he frequently
give us a toast; " Our future worth j+ represet.tative,
tie Right. Iloneurable George Canning;" and if any
gentleman expressed a doubt at hearing such an unex-
pected coast. he produced the letter, which raised their
curiosity, and immediately convinced them there was
" no mistake." ,
Mr. D-- undertook to canvass such gentlemen ashe
was acquainted with, and to do all in his power
t create an interest in favour of Mr. Canning ;
and he promised me that he would not intertere
further, vvihout my permission, yet he found he
had broken hts engagement, and that he had com-
menced viriting to the Right Honourable Gentleman, to
my gri.a. • t chagrin ; but I know not whether he ever
received any answer. A critical period now approached,
for Parliament was dissolved, and our hopes and fears
were w, u id up to the higiiest pitch. A private meeting
wai hell at Mr. Rodie's office,
on account of the disso-
lution, where a party of g-ntlemen assembled, to deli-
berate on the measures proper to be taken to select the
candidate in opposition to Messrs. Brougham and
(3reevy. One of the gentlemen present said he had
heard that, Mr. John D--, jun., was in possession of
a letter from Mr. Canning, and he should like to know
whether the report was correct or not. Mr. D--, jun.,
was immediately sent for. and he laid before them Mr.
Canning's Inett.nrt,ble letter of 1810. and convinced the
party that if he was properly supported he would accept
their invitation with pride and pleasure. One paragraph
in the letter convinced his friends that a more proper
person could not be selected. " If," said he, " the trust
of representing it in Parliament were to he delegated to
me, I should accept it wit!. pride, and I hope discharge
it with lid, lity." After some further proceedings, a ge.
neral meeting was called at the great room, Golden Lion,
and it was as numerous and respectable as any former
met Ling on record. Never was an election carried on
with more spirit, a: d never was an election more warmly
contested The contest lasted eight days, when Mr.
Canning was eventually el.cted, with a triumphant ma-
jority of five hundred votes over the favourite candidate
of the Opposition.
When the contest was over, I expected Mr. D--,
jun., would have invitel me to meet the Right Hon.
Gentleman, egreeattly to his engagement; but, though
he had a party, which Mr. Cunning attended, he did not
perform his promise. This induced me to write again
to Mr. Canning; and I gave him an account in what
maneer I had been emphit ed during the election; and

an image of splendid commercial greatness—
an image of those princely merchants, who, mixing like
them with the pursuits of trade the cultivation of liberal
science ; decorating your town with works of art—and
placing it by the variety of its useful, and the munifi-
cence of its charitable establishments, among the most
celebrated of the cities of the world. May you flourish
in the happiness and renown to which these qualities
entitle you—and may you find an individual more com-
petent try the task than I have been—but one more
devoted to your interests, more anxious for your pro
sperity, or more thankful for your kindness, I am sure
you cannot find." * • "In countries which
have not yet obtained the light of liberty • • • it
will be pleasing to me to look back upon the manners
and institutions which I leave behind me in this land
of freedom ; and par icularly upon the years in ycur
service. * • • "Gentlemen, in terminating a
connexi what can I say but that I bid adieu to you
with feellgs of affection and gratitude; • *
with feelings, in :short, which I will not weary you by
endeavouring in vain to express." • • "I
bid you Good night ; and what is much more difficult
to utter —' Farewell.' "

What a change has taken place in the town since
_
Liverpool was represented by the Right tion. George
Canning ! Various parties who had oprsed him in
1812 had occasion, when in distress, to make applica-
tion to him for assistance and advice ; and he never
hesitated to give them the assistance and advice required.
To the town of Liverpool he was a blessing., for he gave
an impulse to its trade, and it was fostered and encou-
raged by his il.ustrious but unfortunate friend, the Right
Hon. William Huskisson. Alas I they " are both gone
to that bourne from whence no traveller returns ;' but
their memory, I trust, will be cherished and revered by
every true-hearted Bliton, as l,,ng as Liverpool shall
flourish and continue to be the resort of the nations of
the world.

A SCENE AT A GOVEUNOR'S BALL.---A ti7ce tale is
told how a member of the Legislatureof Washington showed
himself to be quite au fait in high life in the great republic.
We say nothing about the richness of the scene generally, a
most graphic account of which, however, is given in the New
York Spirit of the Times. lhe following is a good extract—
" Hark ! the clatter of knives and forks is interrupted by the
cry of Waiter! eh ! here, here boy—you teller—give us
some of that ere pudding.' Die here, sar, am not pudlin—
it am de wrrry, werry best of cream,' replied the sable at-
tendant. Well, after mind,' said the gentleman, just give
us sowe of it; whereupon helping himself to a plateful, and
not finding a small spoon handy, or thinking it would take
too much time, he put a table-spoon in requisition to faci-
litate despatch. The first spoonful was enough. Twisting
and turning the cream from one side of his mouth to the
other, yet still finding the cold undiminished, he resolved to
try the dernier resort of ejecting it on the carpet. " Look
here," exclaimed he to the waiter, "just niece this on the
stove, and get it warm, it is too d—d cold I You'll set all my
teeth aching like the devil. and I should not wonder if I had
a swelled face—a pretty condition that would be to speak
on the Oregon question, to-morrow." Why, ear, dat am
ice-cream !" Put it on the stove and get it warm, I tell you.'
No sooner said than I.one; the plate was put on the stove,
which was heated, as they well know how to do it, when the
quicksilver in the thermometer indicates its neighbourhood
to zero. and there left by the astonished black. Atter sonic
minutes had elapsed, Sambo was summoned to ' fetch that
ere plate.' ' Why that aint what I gave you,' saluted the
ears of the confounded waiter. ' Yes, sar, dat um de cream,'
replied he, as well as his bewildered faculties would let him.
'You be darned ! I gave you pudding, I didn't give you
cream nor custard. Where's that ar plate I gave you lust? "
'Dat am de werry deistical plate as you had de honor ob
handin um in de lust place,
Isar,' replied Sambo. You git
elong, you son of darkness; but so uncontrollable was the
laughter, that no satisfactory explanation was given to the
Member for o—." _ _

life, I take my leave of you for the present, praying that
Providence may so direct my conduct, as never to give
you cause, in your bi tter judgment, to look back with
regret on the choice you have made."
Such is the style of Mr. Canning's sentiments delivered
each evening at the conclu.ion of the poll, at the first
election, to his attached adherents. It was, no doubt,
highly gratityiug to him to find himself surrounded by
such a concourse of ladies and gentlemen. He took an
opportunity of displaying his powers, and it gave ani-
hiation to all he uttered. In the year 1822 he was ap-
poin:ed Governor General of India, and he came down
to Liverpool to take leave of his constituents, and had
the satisfaction of receiving an address from all parties,
both friends and opponents. It was approved and sanc-
tioned by the unanimous votes of all the mercantile asso-
Lions ; and this gave Mr. Canning a great, an expressible
pleasure. When he took leave of his attached friends,
he spoke in a manner that showed how he valued their
good opinion ; and he was unaffectedly overpowered
when he came to bid them adieu. At every election in
which he was involved by the party spirit in Liverpool,
he addeessed the multitude who thronged to hear him,
an 1 he drew down upon himself thunders of applause
from his devoted admirers. How beautifully did he ex-
press himself when compelled to give up a connexion so
endearing, so pleasant to his feelings :
" It is now ten years since I have been connected with
this town. During that period I can say, I hope without
the danger of contradiction, that there is not, so far as I
know, a single individual, I am sure I can say, that there
i, not a single interest belonging to the tows, which has
not had, when required, its share of my active attention,
and which has not, and ever will have, ashare in my most
intense and anxious goodwill." • • "If, gentle-
men, you and I are separated by space, let us continue
united by sentiment and by kindness. I leave here in
your ke-ping a name insignificant as it belongs to an
individual, but consecrated by the principles of which
you have made it the symbol. aluard it, not for its own
sake, but for the sake of those its accomplishments."
* • " Guard my memory, and I shall cherish yours.
11. moved from you by thousands of miles, it will be a
pleasure to me to think that I am occasionally remem-
bered by you ; and be assured that in whatever part of
the world I may be stationed, you will always have a
place in my remembrance and regard." • * *
" I have received, gentlemen, in the course of this day,
(30th August, 1822)—pardon the boast, for the cause of
it lies, as it well may very near to my, breast.—l have
received, this morning, from the associated commercial
bodies of the town, an address, acknowledging—
the merit for services I have laboured to perform
--as representative of Liverpool." * * " Among
tho signatures to that address—every second name
is the name of some individual who has taken an
active part against me in some, if not in every election.
That I have deserved this unexampled concurrence
of approbation, I do not pretend; that I have received
it, will be, to the latest hour of my life, a pride beyond
what I should be warranted in expressing here ; and a
pride, gentlemen, which I shall transmit to my chil-
dren." * * * " There are still two great
national questions upon which I have the misfortune to
differ from the great body of my most respectable friends
and supporters in this town, almost as widely as, on the
other, I differ with their adversaries. I allude, gentle-
men, to the Catholic question as the first, and to the
question of Parliamentary reform as the second of those
national questions. On the first of these questions, I
told them fairly that in accepting my services, they
accepted the services of one who could not, in deference
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modifi-
cations under which that question has come to be dis-
cussed, I have given it my most strenuous support. But
I have in such cases dealt honestly by you, gentlemen,
for I have rarely, if ever, given my support to that
measure in the House of Commons, without openly ac-
knowledging, that in so doing I spoke
magyacinosntstiwtuheanttsl.
bleilliaevveeddottothbeeretfh„reo prevailing sense
misusedtheweiogiht of your autho-
rity, nor compromised any opinion of yours, adverse to
my own." * * " Our connexion is one of
principle ; it had its foundation in principle : on that it
has been raised and cemented. Gentlemen, whatever may
be my future destination, it will be a comfort unspeakable
• to me to have laid, in that connexion, the foundation, 1
trust,
sotfage mutualofour
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51a. COBDEN AT ROME.—We learn from a private
letter, dated Rome, February 24, that on Monday the 22d,
Mr. Cobden had, by appointment, an audience of the Pope,
by whom he was most kindly and graciously received. The
interview, which took place in the private cabinet at the
Vatican, was long and highly interesting, his Holiness show-
ing a very extensive acquaintance with recent events in this
count ry.—Manchester Guardian.
DESTITUTION IN SKTE,r—At a meeting of the clergy,
proprietors, and tacksmen of Skye, held some time ago, Lord
Macdonald read a paper showing the probable requirements
of the people till next harvest—from which we gather the
following facts. The population of Skye is about 26,000. of
_whom 5,000, ma% be taken as heads of families, 2,500 cotters.
Three-fourths of the food of the former, and the sole food of
the latter, in past years has been potatoes. Since October
last there have been no potatoes; and the people have
subsisted chiefly on oat-meal. During the three months
since Oetober, 10,000 bolls of oatmeal have been u3ed, and
at the same rate 30,000 bolls are required to support the po-
upundlaetriotnhetiDli rOaoi•ntoabgeerAncetx, ta-
ndli3t,oiosoc/a.ichualavteedbteheant
farpopmillieadbofiu)rt
1,000 labourers who have gone south for employment 5.000/,
or Si. from each may be remitted, making in all 18,000/.
The purchase of food, it is calculated, will cost 50,000/.,
and 8,750 bolls for seed will cost nearly 18,0002 ; so that
68,0001. will be required to provide for the wants of
the people till next harvest, to meet which they have
only 18,0001., leaving a deficiency of 50,,'00/. In the
course of the statement Lord *Macdonald made the
following remarks:—" The effects of the potato are likely to
be felt in this island for years to come, and they will be per-
manent, unless some means can be devised for a total change
of system from that which has heretofore been pursued.
But what that system ought to it is difficult to determine.
To any one at all conversant with the subject it must be evi-
dent an improved system of cultivation would very mate-
'Lilly improve the condition or the people ; but such improve-
ment can only be gradually intrdcluced, and it will be the
work of years, under the most careful management, to reap
the fruits of it.—Ross-shire Advertiser.

' The difficulty raised by Mr. Canning in reference to the
funds necessary to meet the expense of a contested election,
was prompt!), met by Mr. Gladstone. (now Sir John Glad-
stone, Bart.) When the question of expense was mooted,
and regarded as a serious consideration. he stepped forward
and individually held himself responsible for the charges
of the election, and thus cleared the way for the spirited
contest that took place on that memorable occasion. t.

CAUTION TO STR ANG ERS. —On Tuesday the attention
of the magistrates at the Borough Court was directed to the
case of a young woman, named Maria Jane Pearson, a native
of Bombay, who appears to have lost her box, containing
her clothes and some money, ender rather suspicious circum-
stances. Inspector Bowes stated the case to the magistrates,
the woman herself spaking very indifferent English. The
following are the principal facts:—The woman (according
to her statement) arrived in this country, In company with
her uncle (who is on the recruiting service), only five weeks
ago, landing at Liverpeol. Her uncle, however, had just
died there, and she came to Manchester by the railway
on Monday, the Ist instant, intending to go to London.
On arriving at the station, her luggage was taken off the
carriage by one of the Manchester and Liverpool porters, and
put on a truck belonging to the Manchester and Leeds
Company. Two of the men, with straps on their arms
(meaning the porters) then carried her box to some house,
and charged her 53. for carrying it. She stopped at the
house till the next morning, when she went out, and was
unable to find the way back again. On Monday Mr. Bes-
wick, chief superintendent, heard of the matter, and sent
Bowes, the officer, with the woman, to assist her in finding
her lodgings. They went first to the Manchester and
Liverpool station, where all the parties denied all know-
ledge of the woman or her box. They then went to 0
house next door to where one of the porters lives, in
Balloon-street, kept by an elderly woman, named Samuels.
As soon as they got to this house the woman Pearson
said, " This is the house where I stopped ;" she had
also previously described the house to Bowes, but Mrs.
Samuels and her family a'so denied all knowledge of the
woman, and said they had never seen her in their lives before.
The officer then went up stairs, and Pearson pointed out
the room where she had slept, obs rving that during her ab-
sence the furniture had been removed so as to cover the
place where her box had stood. She furt her told the officer that
if he took up the window blind, he would see that one of the
panes was broken and a piece of paper pasted upon it; which
was found just as she had described. It appeared that the
family consisted of Mrs. Samuels, a daughter. a grandson,
and a granddaughter, and a little girl went there to sleep.
Pearson said the granddaughter went out to fetch her some
ale, and she recollected the little girl by her curls.
On their persisting in their denial of ever having seen
her, Bowes took them to the Town-hall, when Mr. Bes-
wick, in the absence of any direct proof that the box was
taken to this house, permitted them to go home on their
promising to appear at the Borough Court the
next morning, which Mrs. Samuels, her granddaugh-
ter, and little girl did, and these facts were stated.
In addition, it came out that Mrs. Samuels was about to re-
move to another house. This was admitted, but it was said
to be in consequence of her present residence being too large
for her. Pearson said that the box contained sixteen dol-
lars and all :her clothes. Mr. Maude thought it was a case
which demanded further inquiry, and directed that such
further inquiry should be made, discharging
and her daughter from custody in the meantimMe.rs:Waemhave
since learned that three of the out-door porters of the
Man-
chester and Leeds Company are ordered to be suspended till
the box is found.—Manchester Guardian.
REMOVAL OF PORTION or THE LOWER JAW
DURING THE APPLICATION OF ETHEILe—AR operation of a
formidable nature was performed on Wednesday, at the
Devonport workhouse. by Mr. Laity, the necessity for which
resulted from the death of a considerable portion of the lower
jaw bone, in a person named Riley, an inmate of the house
for nearly two years, in consequence of this loathsome though
fortunately rare disease. Several consultations of the
principal surgeons in the neighbourhood bruting been
previously held, a large number were assembled at
the time appointed, and the question of the use of
ether being discussed, its employment was decided on,
and, as the result will show, witb most perfect success. The
operation itself being necessarily tedious, from the great
importance of the parts to be cut through, it was
thought by some that the tran,ient insensibility resulting
from the ether would scarcely bear any relat'on to the time
required in the off: ration , but in this rev( et there was
nothing to regret. The incision through the face was 0 An-
menced after inhalation had been continued for about four
or five minutes, and although the patient was at once appa-
rently under the influence of certain, perhaps unplea,ant
impressions, it was soon evident that they hid no reference
whatever to the operation in hand, for while the parts were
being dissected out, he assumed a blustering though scarcely
complaining
tone, which his subsequent reflections fully ex-
plained—" I'm as good a man as you, and I'll try it if
you like for a gallon of beer; you are not going to hum-
bug me," and other expressions rof the elite of his class,
caused some smiling and no little amusement among
those who reflected what such an operation would have been
ein the olden time." The bone was removed, the poor fel-
low still rambling in his notions, but pretesting that lie had
been fighting, however, "he gave the fellow as good as he
brought," and he was evidently satisfied that he had come
off best man in the affair. Ile was then shown the bone,
when his astonishment wascomplete. He declared that, but
for the word of all those gentlemen, he could net believe it.
On further recovering, and being questioned seriously as to
his sensations, he stated he felt no pain whatever from the
cutting of his face; that he was not aware of the removal of
the bone, which he could scarcely believe evetbelenged to
him, and that his idea was that he had been erigageu in a
squabble, in which he had come off victorious. We consider
this one of the most satisfactory cases hitherto recorded, and
we sincerely hope it will terminate favourably.—Devonport
Telegraph.
LaNN.—EXPERT DECEPTION.----We have been in-
formed, that a short time since two "
s called at the
retail shop of a spirit merchant in this town, and inquired
for a gallon of the genuine article—gin, which
quantity
was forthwith deposited in a two-gallon stone bottle
brought for the purpose, and into which the men
said they had already emptied one gallon. At this stage of
the proceedings, the cash being the next requisite to
settle the affairs between the buyer and seller, the amount
was demanded,—when lot these gentlemen of the "soil,"
declared they would pay on the following Saturday, on re-
ceipt of their wages. This course which presented but a very
slight aeWantage to the seller, was objected to, when, with
great sang froid the
werthy gentlemen stated " they had no
money," and that the "liquor" therefore must be taken
back again. The "returning" process having been com-
pleted, and the gin buyers gone, it was discovered that they
had put one gal:or of water into the bottle previously, thus
leaving the merchant the same quantity of liquor, but just
deficient, by one-half of its proper strenzth.—Cambridye
Advertiaer.

THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY MORNING, MARCH il, 1847.

pe. praying for a
Select Committee to inquire into the cultivation of cotton in
India.

POOR REMOVAL ACT.
Colonel WOOD presented a petition from the county of
Midllesex against the Poor Remov..l Act.
_ _

LAW OF MARRIAGE.
Sir GEORGE GREY presented petitions from Devenport
against the law of marriage within the prohibited degrees.
THE REFORM BILL.
Mr. C. HOWARD presented a petition from Dover against
the rate-payint: clauses of the Reform Act.

IRISH POOR-LAW.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition in favour of a
more efficient poor-law fur Ireland.
corroN AND WOOLLEN TRADE.
Mr. FINCH moved for certain returns connected with the
woollen and cotton manufactures for severel past years.
Agreed to.
ARREST FOR DEBT (IRELAND) BILL.
Sir W. BARRON moved the sscond reading of this Bill.
In doing so, be said, he did not think there would be any ob-
jection to its principle, which was to assimilate the law of
Ireland, with regard to debts under 201., to the English law,
as recently amended. If it were necessary to change the
law in this country, it was still more necessary to do so in
Ireland, which was much the poorer country. Espe-
cially was the measure now required, considering the
deplorable state of the country. There were a great number
of poor people in Ireland who could not pay their small
debts, such as those who were antler the conacre system,
owing from 40s. to 15/. or 201. ; yet these parties could at
any time be arrested and imprisoned for the non-payment of
these sums. It was to furnish a remedy that this Bill was
prepared. At present all he wanted the Howe to do was to
affirm the principle, to commit the Bill pro forma, and then
to leave it to the consideration of a Committee up stairs, so
that its details might be fully matured. He c!aimed no pater-
nity to the Bill, as the Lord-Lieutenant, and many of the most
influential parties in Ireland were favourable to the principle.
He believed also that the highest law authorities in Ireland
looked upon the measure favourably. He trusted, therefore,
that the House would, with this explanation, agree to the
second reading of the Bill.

Mr. MONAtIAN (Sulicitor-Gen-ral for Ireland), said that
perhaps the House would pardon him if he shortly stated
the reasons why he could not assent to the second reading t f
the Bill brought in by the Hon. Member for Waterton'.
The object of the Bill was this—by one short clause at once
to abolish arrestment for debts where the amount did not
exceed 201. Hon. Members unacquainted with the social
condition of Ireland could not conceive the number of per-
sons who were indebted in sums not exceeding
20/. It would be' at once seen, then, that a Bill
of this kind would interfere in no ordinary degree
with the rights of property in the country. He did
not mean to say that measures should not be introduced into
Parliament to ameliorate the evils under which the petty
debtors in Ireland laboured ; but it would be utterly impos-
sible that the House could concede a Bill of t his description,
unless facilities were given to enable the bond fide creditor to
recover the amount of his debt from such property of any
description as the debtor might be possessed of. No one
could entertain a greater sympathy for those bond fide debtors
who had contracted debts, and were, from adverse circum-
stances, unable to pay; but he had no sympathy with those
men who, possessed of property, fraudulently endeavourei
to defraud the honest creditor. The House would excuse
him, if, so lately intrcdoced into that House, he did not so
cleverly express himself as he could desire—( dear, hear)—
but he had not had time to give the subject that con-
sideration which he should have wished, and his obser-
vations must be necessarily brief upon it. A similar
Act to that now brought forward by the Honourable
Ban. was passed in England in the 7th and Bth of the reign
of Victoria, and the country evidently felt that the pro-
visions of that Act were in some degree imprudent, because
in the very next session of Parliament consider-
able safeguards were granted to creditors. which
safeguards could not be, under existing circumstaices,
at present extended to Ireland. England had a
vast number of smaller courts and district judges, who could
take cognisance`of these matters—he meant the Commis-
sioners of Bankruptcy throughout the country, the local
judges, &c.; and provisions were introduced in the Small
Debts Act for England empowering the bringing of
debtors before these inferior courts, in order that
the property of such persons might be male avail-
able for the payment of their debts. But they had
no such judges in Ireland, and although he was most
anxious to lessen the costs of process in the recovery of small
debts, he at the same time felt that any further enact-
ments of the kind p-oposed by the Honourable Member
for Waterford would be only multiplying confusion,
of which there was too much already. The ques-
tion was one not to be lightly considered. There were
many difficulties in the way of a proper arrangement—
there were difficulties in ascertaining the most fitting
tribunal for the giving the necessary protection.
which creditors would require if a Bill of this
kind were passed. The subject, he might inform
the House, was at that time under his consideration, and he
hoped to be able soon to recommend to her Majesty's Go-
vernment a measure for their adoption. He trusted that,
under these circumstances ,the House would leave the matter
with him, and he felt himself, in the mean time, compelled
to oppose the second reading of the Bill.
Mr. SHAW said that after the very clear and admirable
statement of the Hon. Member, he would not tresspass on
the patience of the House. However desirable it might be
to assimilate the law of arrest in Ireland to the law as it
existed in England, he was of opinion that there were faults
in the latter which were of great magnitude. True, there
were circumstances which counteracted those evils in Eng-
land, and which they would not possess in Ireland. He was
s iti-find to leave the matter in the hands of the Learned So-
licitor-General.

ARREST FOR DEBT ( IRELAND) BILL.
After a few words from Mr. MORE O'FERRALL,
Mr. M. MI LNES said he would nut have troubled the House,
after the able explanation of the Learned Solicitor-General
of Ireland, were it not that his name appeared on the back of
the Bill introduced by his Hon. Friend. There were mon-
strous evils committed with the present law of arrest in Ire-
land, which the country would not longer tolerate. The
Hon. and Learned Recorder for Dublin, said that the modifi-
cations in the law of arrest had not acted well in England; he
( Hr. M.) could assure the Hon. and Learned Member that one
principle the people of England had determined on was not
to return to the incarceration of debtors for small sums. It
was almost impossible to believe the enormous numbers who
were incarcerated in the gaols of Ireland for sums so ridicu-
lously small, that it was, in fact, an amusement for English
travellers to liberate them. Some of these persons had re-
mained in gaol for upwards of two or three years for
sums not exceeding ten shillings, and many were
for amounts beneath that.—(Hear.) There was another
circumstance so truly disgusting that it would not be longer
tolerated, and as he was not aware that the attention of the
Learned Solicitor-General had been directed towards it, he
would beg leave to mention it to the House. Owing to the
ease with which suits were carried out in the civil courts,
many persons who wished to get rid of the expense of main-
taining their parents were in the habit of instituting ficti-
tious suits against them for small amounts alleged to be due
for diet and lodging, and having obtained decrees, they
procured their ince ceration, thus throwing the burden of
supporting the last years of the parents' lives upon the
country.—(Cries of "Name an instance.") Why, they
would find that parents were confined in Cork gaol under
similar circumstances. The subject had been represented to
the Irish Government, but there were no means of remedying
the evil while the present system of arrest was in force. The
effect of the law of arrest for small amounts was, that the gaols
of Ireland were crowded with debtors. The Bill brought for
ward by his Friend was distinguished for a brevity which
was exceedingly painful to legal minds—(Laughter)
—and he (Mr. Monckton Milnes) had expressed
his fears that it would in consequence meet with
much opposition from the Learned Metnl)ers in that
House. He supposed. therefore, that they, the introducers
of the Bill, must rest contented with leaving the subject in
the hands of the Learned Snicker. General for Ireland, and
he did hope that the Governmeot and the Irish liar would no
longer allow this abominable stste Of things to c,oi,inue.
Mr. S. CRAW FORD gave his unqualified approbation to
the pill brought in by the lion. Baronet the Member for

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. , Waterfonn He thought that the present system of small T 17.------------'-Iq,eod, had an 'estate of some 7"----"'n-------.50,000 acres wthhiaetit
debt ,o•reettioeas gave the pewee ti ieflietieg n!-Oi.,?I182 never been ste + eye,. atel the probability would b' even
110t1SE OF COLILIIONS, March 10.
nr'e•l'Y en the no.tre: delJtor.,. k.f Ir( linen and ft-e- ti. .., reason in the ev,,, of such plans being taken and deposited,, •
: It, s'',111•1 wi,h t.t seen i,., to , ,?,i‘i,rrible clegr, inetlilied. would tie leutte aireolutely necessary to depart from them' it
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock.
They letti hear I feu a to te e eethorety thaethe fear of Mr. ELLICE said that, in corroboration of what bad fallen
EDINBURGH AND PERTH RAILWAY.
deletPui;ited one comity in Ireland, and from lee Nolee Friend, he had only to say that when he was in
Mr. F. .MAULE moved the second reading of the Edin- arrest nail actually
burgh and Perth Railway Bill, and said teat the Scotch after what had ,ccurred to-day he trusted the matter would Scotland I,e was tliliged, in consequence of the great expense
, have the serious and immediate consideration of her 31ajesty's to which proprietors 'mold be subjected for these specitica-
people were deeply interested in the progress of it.
anti plaes, and the uncertainty that existed—that after
Mr. E. ELLICE objected to the second reading of the Bill, i Government.
as the parties who were the promoters of it sought for the Mr. GROGAN said that the first announcement of this lionshet' the plans were furnished, they might not be able to
sanction of Parliament on plans and certificates, which were Bill spread the greatest alarm throughout Ireland, because, Proce:d with them— lie was obliged to request the Commis-
the property of others—namely, of a former company, now ! white it proposed at one " fell swoop"
subjectrec,)veriiniagdjibmsetenantd„kboennau
_lei,
byde Gdc,bvtes,..uni,n Stith,
to abolish imprison- Boners to place et nsiderable discretion in the handsof the land-
dissolved. There were a great number of other irregularities, : meat for debt, it did not provide any substitute for that lords, in order that the moils might be proceeded with. He
hanedwiaes tau-red i iphuatxtcheiNlioni.sMiieertboerkan-oowuldinnuo.thapr
orsdheirs
tmhoetaiopnp.h.-
and the House would be sanctioning a very dangerous prin-
gmlaoddethoef
ciple if they agreed to the second reading of the Bill.
Mr. LOCH said that the Bill was of great public import- trusted, after the pledge of the note Gentl,M•lll. flit. Soiii- cart !r ;mos would be considered?
ance, and that all the landholders with but one exception , tor.Generel for Ireland, the Bill would be withdrawn. Lard .
A nIOR I'ET
true H iaid, ie the orer of arrival.
were in favour of the undertaking; nor was it that the Mr. P. SCROPE said in many carts of Ireland the
penults- Mi ',LION BY sugeeste d d the withdrawal of the amend-
new company had possessed themselves of the property of tion was being driven off the land through the tmenum ot- the ; merle p, i,,,,v,v(•;', rhe plans were prepared, it ought to be
others; for it was they who had paid all the expenses of the civil net process, which h.l been alluded to by an I (km, at the expense of the general fund.
undertaking, and they had entered into a regular agreement , Honourable Member opposite, and he considered it , ~
1 renter a few WitIAS front Lord GEORGE BENTINCK and
with the former proprietors, so that there was not mu a tech- was high time a stop was put to theee ,i-uct...e. tinge. I Mr. lII.T.UE,
i Mr.FORSIII-..R.s,litt he would consent to amend his proviso,
nical difficulty in the way of a second reading.
it altoeet her.
Under the law of di.oreint the landloni mu!
.i no, brain imy.
Mr. FOX MAULE said that the whole question turned . sesion of his t.
wince gone; till sonic time after the !eta Lad i eo •l,itt the pi ALS acct surveys should only be made in cases
on the point, whether the that the sections were the pro- - bettome due, and the censccinenee as, Ono tile civil bil: ITO- I where the Count deemed it expedient, but he must
would saipport the proviso as amended,
perty of the new company or not. If any party came and cess syiteln had been extensively re.orit dTo for got, in,!• str,,lll u,,,,iine ~,itici,,,,,,,,,4;._
that the expense was to be defrayed
claimed them beside the company, then there would be a holders off t lie land, and thrmine them into prisoo The iusult Mr. ACLIONIIV
;zi,, er.d and not partial ; but, nevertheless, he con-
case for extreme jealousy i,n the part of the Heuse, but such :of alithisletd bee ~ that the ten.ntry, from tear of arrest, were tii,on the hrytt.,,,t.,:n;iug
was not the case; the promoters were time only claimants, and finding their wan te the quaff sof Liverpool and tale, ports : out ef it e eeeeral ,lesion •, bind.
unnecessary, and he honed therefore
it appeared that they were even those who paid for all the in E„wand. and in this way in,thy parts of Ireland were 1 L tel LINCOLN opposed the amendment. The money
1
sections and surveys which had been made. This Bill wes , becenung depopulated. In one instance a elereyinan hed 1 ouee tte t,
one of great national importance. Tney had thousands ef , stated to him, That where a Ince th or two tnet lie lid a 1 :Wert ci it ele.eethei.
opproptoe:ldn that the discussion had not
labourers out of work and starting, and it would be a serious pepiii„tieir of upwards of i3Odd. teen. untie:- hie care, lie 110 w, , G, v• ru not w,,Lai resist the amendment.
responsibility ou the House to reject a measure which would ,in consequence of this hit ,t,,,g. and driving trim the land .Atent a teat words from L; td Atorta-tETR and Mr. AG..
be would svitldraw the
give them employment, upon a mere technical objection. I system, had only 500, and the clergy of Ie land, witnes-ing LIONPY,
Mr. GREENE hoped that the House would net set the the sad effects of the system, were unaninieus inching bad precedent of refusing the second reading of this Bill, lie upon the Government of Ireland to take steps to put aA p ct'a"ged hi' opinion upon the subject, Nevertheless, as there
thought that if the (injections urged were to be maintained to it.--( [Tear, hear.)
•
the House would do better to postpone the second reading of Mr. sMITiI O'BRIEN aigeesterl that power might be anteittiline.
the Bill, and refer the objection to the Standing Orders given to the aesistannbartiner to stay execution in the cases "the am ndment was accordingly withdrawn and the clause
alnAle ar.reti't)siet:ll:u7iti
Committee. alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, agreed to.
Mr. F. MAULS had no objection to such a course heing and then Government would have ample time to consider the Clauses 3. 4, and 5, were agreed to,
adopted, but he hoped the delay consequent upon it would subject of this Bill. On Clause 6 te•ing proposed,
not afterwards be allowed to prejudice the Bill. Sir R. FERGUSON hoped the House would be cautious Sir GEO. GREY
said, with reference to what had been
Mr. STRUTT seconded the motion of the Hon. Member how it proceeded in this matter, for in their desire recently stated bee the lion. Member for Falkirk, with regard
for Lancaster. There was a considerable difference of opi- to benefit the poor of Ire'and they might inflict the most to the limitation as to the completion of the works, lie wished
nion upon this matter, and the Bill ought to be referred serious injury upon time country. If the suggestion of the to observe that the object was to diffuse the benefits of the
as the Hon. Member had proposed, to the Standing Orders Hon. Gentleman opposite were adoeted it might lead to the Bill as extensively as possible. It was considered, therefore,
Committee. That House was not a tribunal which should concealment of property and the defrauding of creditors of most advantageous for this purpose if the loan to each pro-
adjudicate upon this matter.
their just and legal claims.
then withdrew the amendment prieter was limited to 15,000/., and if the period should be
Mr. ELLICE on the Sir G. GREY hoped the Hon. Member would withdraw extended to five years instead of three. A discretionary power
understanding that this course should be adopted. his motion for the second reading of the Bill, the subject was give'. to the Lords of the Treasury to enlarge that amount
The second reading of the Bill was then postponed until being under the consideration of the law officers of the in special cases where it could be shown that the landlords
this day week.
Crown. If the Hon. Metnber did not consent to withdraw could beneficially apply it, acid that the works could be corn-
The Great Northern Railway Bill (deviations between it, it would he his duty to propose that the Bill be read a pleted in three years. The Right Hon. Gentleman proposed
Gaiosborough and Doncaster) was read a second time and second time this day six months. an amendment to that effect—" That there should be no
ordered to be committed; as also the deviation between Mr. B. EeCOTT hoped that his Hon. Friend would not grant exceeding 15,0001., and that the period for the com-
Pettrnerough, Boston, and Gainsbo'ough. press forward his "Bill on the present occasion. The prin- pletion of the works should be extended to five years."
The Waterworks Clauses Bill was read a third time and ciple contained in the Bill was one which he was sure would Sir J. GRAHAM was of opinion that with regard to the
passed. eventually be adopted by the Legislature. Highlands of Scotland a discretionary power as to the loan
'lh • Markets and Fairs Clauses Bill,Commissioners'Clauses After a few words from Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN, was properly 1„ died with the Treasury, and he highly ap-
Bill, and the Gas Works Clauses Bill, were severally read a Sir H. W.BARReN• consented Co withdraw his motion ; proved of the extension of the limitation as to time. but be
third time and passed. in doing so, however, he wished to obtain a pledge from the thought the atnount granted to each individual proprietor
The Wexford and Valencia Railway Bill was read a second Right Hon. Gentleman the secretary for Ireland, that the was too large. The primary object to be considered was,
time and ordered to bd committed. Government would themselves bring in a Bill upon the the advantage of the great bulk of the people, and the pro-
HARBOUR DOCKS AND PIERS. subject. duction of the greatest quantity of food ; the interest
of the
Mr. WARD then brought in a Bill for consolidating in Mr. LABOUCHERE said, that in consequence of the proprietor was a secondary meter. Tow those who wnted
one Act the provisions usually contained in Acts authorizing great amount, and the pressing nature, of other Irish busi- the assistance were not the large proprietors, but the
the meking and approving of harbour docks and piers. mess, he was not prepared to pledge himself to bring forward farmer and yeoman. Ile wished the benefit to be diffused as
The Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a a measure on the subjee during the present session; he widely as possible, and if 15.000/. were to be advanced
second time to-morrow. would, however, pledge himself that the measure should re- to each individual, it would greatly fetter theta, and prevent
POOR. RATES. ceive the consideration of the Government. them from being able to diffuse the benefits of the Bill as
The O'CONOR DON presented a petition, numerously Sir H. W. BARRON wished to know if the Government widely as thee. could do if they limited the loan to 10,000/.
signed by the inhabitants of Newcross itt Wexford, praying would have any objection to refer the Bill to a Committee to each applicant.,
for an equalization of the poor-rate system. up stairs. BENTINCK
• Lord GEORGE thought, as the object of the
IRISH POO,l-LAWS. Mr. LAROUCHERE said that he did not se' any neces. Bin w'a.s to iecreese the production of food, and to advantage
Mr. HAMILTON presented a petition from several Irish sits for such a cA.ir,e of proceeding. the ceuttny generally, and if this could be affected by the
landowners, praying that in any poor-law for Ireland the Sir W. H. BARRON then wished to ohaie leave to in- Bill, it did net mater whether the loans were large or
workhouse test should be employed. introduce the Bill at some future period of the session. The small, or to what class of proprietors they were given. He
NATIONAL FAST, subject was too important a one to be summarily disposed thought they sh uld not diminish the amount, but in case
Mr. ROUND presented a petition from a place in Ireland, of, and wanted to know whether, if the Government were there were more applications than they had money to lend,
whose name we could not learn, , unprepared praying for a national fast • with any measure on the subject, they would the Government should borrow a few millions more to
also a petition in favour of the Poor Removal Act. give their support to the present Bill, enable them to do so.
CLOSING OF PUBLIC-HOUSES. Mr. LABOUCHERE declined to make any pledges up
Bu . ve, e.) menet which the Noble Loud (Brntinck) proposed to raise
on Lord DUNCAN said that the interest of the additional
Mr. MUNTZ presented a petition from certain licensed the subject.—(Cries of " Diid divide.") victuallers of B
ingham againstithe present grievances the After a short consultation between Mr. Lanouclizes and woula liner to be paid by the wot king classes, and, therefore,
Trade was under relating to the cetsing of public-houses. Sir H. W. Battitow, the Bill was withdrawn. he depiecaoei such a course. He areed with the Right
CULTIVATION OF COTTON. DRAINAGE OF LAND BILL. Hoe. ger net (sir James Graham) that the loins to each
.. ... . _
Colonel LINDSAY presented a petition

On the order of the day being read for going into com-
mittee on the Drainage of Land Bill,
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the rate of interest at which
the loans were to be advanced under this Act. He consi-
dered that a higher rate of interest ought to be charg, d
the money to be lent under this Bill, as otherwise the Go-
vernment would sustain loss en the advances they ma !e.
If they did not do so, they would have to advisee,' tile in-
terest on Exchequer-hills.
Sir G. GREY said that the Hon. Member was rather late
in making his objection.
Mr. H. Be ILLIE thought that the faith of Parliament
was plt.dge,t to the Bill last session, and they could not now
hdraw from the terms then agreed to.
Mr. HUNIE thought that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Wile
Eisele) was misunderstood. All he wanted was that the
finances of the country should sustain no loss by the ad-
vance. This Bill raised the question of advancing the in-
terest on Exchequer- hills, and he wished to know frotn
Chan-ellor of the Exchequer or the Home Secretary, whe-
ther, in case they themselves should have to p ty mere
interest than they did at present, they would have ary ete.
jection to permit a clause to he introduced into the Bill fur
the purpose of charging that increased rate on the &Serene, s
to be made.
Sir GEORGE GREY'said that it was not intended that
any alteration should be made in the rat- of interest, as they
had Engaged last session to mike the grans on the terms
specified in the Bill, end therefore, he should not assent to
the introduction of such a clause as that mentioned.
After a few words from Mr. Aglionby, Sir Andrew Leith
Hay, Mr. Finch, and Lord Duncan, the House went into
Committee.
On clause 1 being proposed,
Mr. WILLIAMS said her Majesty's Government wet
called upon to protect the public from any :oss by the ad-
vancement of money. Some clause ought to lie intro-
duced giving the security.
Mr. FINCH did not consider there was any weight in
the suggestion of the [lon. Member, as it it were adopted it
would prevent any person from borrowing at all
Lord LINCOLN said that the introduction of this mea-
sure was not by any means ben, ficial to the Highlands or
Lowlands of Scotland. He considered that. the principle of
the measure should be confined to that of the general Act
of last session, which the late Government introduced.
and that was confining the loans to the purposes of dtaining
alone. Every Hon. Member who was conversant with agri-
culture would bear him out in saying that thorough drainage
was the most beheficial improvement which could be male
on an estate. He desired to know whether the Govern -
ment had made up their minds to carry out the Bill
as soon as po-sihle? If they had not, Ise would give notice of
Lis intention of introducing a Bill very similar to that he in-
troduced last year.
Sir GEORGE GREY said, that in many parts of Scotland
the fencing and trenching, by which it was se necessary to
make drainage available, would be of so expensive a character
as to preclude a great number of persons from obtaining any
benefit under the Bill. Such would be peculiarly the cast
with regard to those districts where distress existed, and
thus the Act w uld bes dead letter. Ti‘e G vernmeet wee •
perfectly sensible of the importance of the subject, wet the,
would give it their serious attention. They would intreltee
a Bill upon the sul jest. They would be most happy to „iv,
him their warmest assistance.
Lord DUNCAN most entirely coecurred in the se slimiest.
expressed bs the N ble Lord opposite (Lord Lieco'o,
would be moat proper to give a pri erity to the prOprie-
tors of the Highlands liver hose of the Lowlands.rrh:
not a small grant of public money, it was one of 2 000 600".
to Great Britain and 1,500.000. to Ireland. The 'High-
land proprietors deserved this precede.nee ; they herd
made great exertions to meet the diet, eee. ar,4 !hit
too without any grant from Parliament. There was,
however, another and a stroneer rearese in favour of
his supposition. At present in the Lowlands, with whist,
he was connected, wages had risen fifty per c.o. By
the introductior, of this money these wages woled be meet
unnaturally increased i s their amount, ens in a very sOor,
time the labourers would be threwe out of employment in
consequence of the influx of inhabiemts Irons other parts of
the country, who would flock thither ie s • treh of work.
Lord 1110RPETII said, that with reseeet ei the retnerie of
his Noble Friend opposite, that. the Hight:vide were entitled
to particular consider Lion under 01; Bill, he would see by
looking at the Bill thist the Sco:ch generally were the first
thought of by the 0 wernment, and particularly the High-
lands. It would be fund that of this two millions two-
thirds would go to Scotland, or perhaps more than
that suns. Very few applications had es yet been made from
England. and it did not aortal. that the Government would
be enabled to entertain any more. With te gird to the esti-
mated cost for fencing, it bore so large a proportion to the
value of the land that, unless in very valuable land, it would
not be worth while to undertake it all.
Lord GEORGE BENTINCK heard with great surprise a
regret expressed by the Noble Lord the Member for B
that the labourers' wages had risen it seemed to be the Nosole
Lord's wish that the labourers wages should be eround down
as much as possible. With regard to any fear ef exhausting
the motley market by borrowing two mil pion 4, the Cone dl or
of the Exchequer would tell them that, in the cettmetilioa ees
the loan of eight millions, a short time since, eiglii y milli Its
es:c
however,otusl
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f ebn be
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evistejrt)uoTepeod byrnostie
protect
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sheep
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had been brought forward, and that was a pretty fair proof
cdtohbsete omnfeofcenenesycs fencing
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l
from the snow drift.
Sir GEORGE GREY said that the cl me did not encourage
fencing so much as drainirg.
Lord DUNCAN said that he had no wish, as stated by
the Noble Lord, to grind down the labourers' wages. He
wished to see every man obtain a fair day's wages for a fair
day's work. NV hat he did say was, that at the present rate
of wages in that part of the country, it would be injudicious
for the Govornment to encourage the landlords to undertake
drainage, for at the present rate of wages it would not repay
the cost which they would be at.
After a few words from Mr. BAILLIg and Mr, Heerterve
Mr. AGLIONBY thought some protection should be
afforded to the outgoing tenants, else all the improvements
that might be made would be-lost. While on this subject
he would suggest to the House the importance of measures,
not only for subsoiling and hedging, but for the removal of the
feudal tenures of the north of England. Until they removed
no tenant would undertake the improveineet of the soil.
The practice of ecclesiastical fines, which prevailed in certain
parts, should also be grappled with, as well as the manorial
rights of the north. There ought to be but one general
tenure for the whole country, and he trusted the Government
would take up the whole question, so as to provide a remedy.
Mr. G. W. HOPE wished to know whether any improve-
ment or alteration was comtemplated in the Act commonly
called " Montgomery's Act?"
The LORD ADVOCATE said the present Bill was not
for the purpose of adding to the burdens of the land, but for
the purpose of disencumbering it, and enabling its Wain'
ties to be more fully developed.
After a few words from Captain HARRIS,'
Mr. B. ESCOTT thought that this was a Bill of which
1'
the landlords ought to be Justly ashamed ; but as he be 'eyed
there was not the slightest Chance of throwing it out, he
would not take up the time of the House by discussing it. The
principle of the Bill seemed to be to give loans of inetsey to
landlords because they did not require it. Now be thottehe
that that principle could be greatly improved by extending
it to those patties who really required and deserved
such loans. The Bill seemed to be intended as a
compensation for something, what lie did not know, nor
was he aware of the arrangements that had been entered into
on the withdrawal of the Bill which preceded this, and the
introduction of the present measure.
Lord LINCOLN explained.
The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 2 being proposed,
Mr. FOSTER moved that the word s"provided always,
that correct plans or tracings of the d
ete.eted be deposited with and preserved for public use an.
inspection by the Commissioners" he •
word " proposed." lntroduced attar to
Lord MORPETH said that the proviso of the Hon. Gen-
ileman would subject proprietors of
land to much ineouve-
'donee, and very eon,i,i,rabi„x.
expo ;.e. partienlasly in Porne
districts of Scoti, 1, and w suld its many instances be
altogether impracticable. For
instance, Mr. ilkLeod, of

individual shoul:1 belimited to 10,0 to/.
Lord (4EORGE BENTIXCK said, the Noble Lord who
had just sat down could not have read the Bill, or he would
not hove made the statement made by him just now, as to
the working classes paying the interest of the money. The
Rill imposed the payment of both principal and interest on
the landea proprietors.
Mr. AGLIONBY disagreed with the Noble Lord. The
money would have to be borrowed by Government, and if
the statement which had been made by the lion. Member
for Montrore be correct, as to the necessity of Government
borrowing money on Exchequer-bills at an increased rate of
interest, he could not see that the interest 'would be paid by
the landed proprietors.
Sir GEORGE CLERK considered that 10,0001. would
be a sufficient limitation to the amount to be granted to a
proprietor; 101. an acre would be a large sum to allow for
drainage, and that would permit ten thousand acres to be
imp roved.
Mr. HENLEY considered the suggestion of the Right
Hon. Baronet as most valuable, and he hoped the Govern-
ment would tel pt it.
After some further discussion,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it
appeared to him that the majority of the House was in
favour of the reduction proposed by the Right Hon. Ba-
ronet.—( hear, hear.) He was not prepared to say what
course the Government would take, but he would promise
that the se,ie t should let taken into consideration.
Sir 3. GRAHAM said that the statement of the Right
Hon. Gentleman was satisfactory. The Government would
find that the limit of 15,000/. would compel the Government
to reject many applications, but the limit of 10,0001., would
enable them to meet all the requests for loans under the Act.
APer a few obsetvations from Mr. A. OSWALD, which
did not reach the gallery,
Mr. S. HERIiERT said that, if a maximum was at all
made, it should he fixed as high as possible.
Mr. AGLIONI;Y srid the money proposed was not merely
to be lent to-tee landowners, but for the higherpurpose of
bringing e larger area of land into cultivation, and finding
empleymeet for the poorer classes. It' it were a mere land-
, lords' Bill he would never have supported it.
Mr. CAYLSYsubniitt,d that the Bill could not avoid
benefiting the landlords. white at the same time it extended
he field of employment for the people. Whether the large
proprietors or the small ones borrowed the money was a
matter of indifference so long as the object of finding the
people employment was realised. He could not, therefore,
agree to limiting lie sum to 10,0004
Mr. B. DENISON, differed altogether from the last Hon.
Member. He could not agree that the smaller landed pro-
prietors should be shut out of the benefit of loans, because
the large proprietors had made extensive application for
sums, and were to be allowed to borrow to tae amount of
15,000/. each.
The clause, as amended, was then agreed to.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the Bill
was ordered to be reported on Friday.
The Howse then resumed.
LANDED PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion for bringing up the report on this Bill,
Mr. \V I lAA A.MS said, that the House would see that there
was an (iddiional grant cf half a million given by this Bill to
the landlords of Ireland, He believed that the amount of
m.,..ey applied for had been very limited, and he should wish
to know whet tho,e precise amounts had been.
Visc6unt NEWRY then movei the following clauses:—
And whereas it may happen that there are now, or hereafter
may be, in the han,ts of trustees or a trustee of a settlement,
or will, or moueys produced by the sale, or received
for eq shim of exchange of settled estates or hereditaments
in I•i • is :der a power of sale and exchange, or under trust
for ..lach settlement, or will, or codicil contained, and
which in,:•ovs are liable to be laid out in the purchase of
other estates or hereditaments to be settled to the same or
the like user, or upon and for the same or the like trusts and
purposes as the estates or hereditaments, from the sale or
exchange of which such moneys were produced, and there
may be now or hereafter moneys in the hands of trustees,
3ttlement, will, or codicil, produced by a
,ettled lands or hereditaments, in Ire-
, or otherwise, made to or for the
,urpases. of a railway or other public company, or
Other money.i liable to be laid out in the purchase
of lands or h •relitatnents, and which moneys may be
advantageously advanced for the purpose of being laid out in
the permanent improvement of such settled estates, and f here
may be now or hereafter moneys in the hands of trustees or
guardians for infants or others under legal disability,eor
moneys of persons of unsound mind, which may be advtfn-
tageously advanced for the purpose of being em-
ployed in the permanent improvement of the estates of
such infants, persons of unsound mind, or others
under legal disability. Be it therefore enacted, that
it shall be lawful for any such trustees (with the
consent of any persons beneficially interested, in p.ossession,
ii of full age) or guardians, or the committees of any per-
sons Of unsound mind, and they are hereby authorised to
apply to the High Court of Chancery in Ireland, 'by petition
to the Lord High Chancellor, for leave to make any
permanent improvements in such settled or other estates
in Ireland aforesaid, in the manner and by any of the
ways or in. ins for which loans are hereby authorised to
be made by the Commissioners of Public Works, and
so appliot, sod in such petition to pray that the
expenses of making any such permanent improvements may
be defrayed by advances out of any such moneys the hands
of suet) trustees or guardians. or others, or otherwise invested
as aforesaid. And be it emieted, that upon the presentation
of any such petition as aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the
said court to refer it to one of the masters the said
court to tnalc: all necessary and proper inquiries, an
to consider all such estimates and valuations as shadshall
be produced before him in relation to the matter
iai oi;
such petition, and thereupon to report whether, l
opinion, it would be beneficial, to all persons interested
.in
' the estate:,that such permanent improvements should be
made under the provisions of this Act.i And bet en-
acted, that • such report shall be filed
the accordingittcrsbaithet
practice of the said court, and thatpetition
pen thereupon
of the patty
be lawful for the said court, uponthe
obtaining the same, to confirm said report absolutely;.
and to make an order authorising or permitting such perma-
nent improvemeets to be made, antlthe expenses of making
the same, together with the expenses of obtaining the au-
thority of the said court, to be accordingly advanced out
suchof moneys
v respectively aforesaid, and that thereupon
it shal elawful for such trustees or guardians, or
others, to advance and lay out such moneys accord-
ingly. And be it enacted, that after such moneys shall
have Win so advanced and laid out as aforesaid, it shall
be lawful for such trustees or guardians, or others, to
apply to the said court by petition to the Lord High Chan.
cellor, for a reference to the said master, to ascertain that the
amount thereof has been fully expended in or about the
making of such improvements, and in paying or providing for
the expenses incurred and to be incurred, of obtaining the
authority of the said court ; and that upon the said master
making his said report, and thereby finding that the amount
of such moneys had been fully expended as aforesaid, and upon
the said report being duly filed according to the practice of
the said court, that then it shall be lawful for the said
court to make an order to confirm the said report
absolutely, and to fully indemnify such trustees, guardians, or
others on account of such application of the said trust moneys
as aforesaid. And be it enacted, that in every case
in which such advances shall be made as last
herein before authorised, the lands intended to be
improved by means thereof, shall, from the respective tines
of making such advances, become and be charged with the
repayment to such trustees, guardians, or committees,
or others, for the time being, making or entitled
to be repaid such advances, the amount of such
respective advances after the rate of not less than 4/. I Is. per
centum per annum, until the whole of such advances shall
have been repaid, and such charge shall have priority over
other charges, except tithe commutation charges,rent
and any quit or chief rents incident to tenure. An
enacted, that tenants for life and others having only a li-
mited inter'e,s: in the land charged shall be bound to pay
the said instalments which shall become from time to time
due and payable, during the continuance of their respectiv-
estates or interests, and shall be bound to uphold and main-
tain in good order and condition the works on sc-
. count of which the lands shall have been so charged

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