The Sun.
London, England, 1840-11-06 00:00:00

THE St7Siq LONDONtITUDAY, NOVEMBER 6..1840

British and French fleets, which we reproduce in
another past of The Sun. We believe, however, I
that the following list, derived from authority, will
be found a more correct account of British ships
of the line now in commission than that pub-
lished by our Contemporary. The number of
line-of-battle ships in commission, including guard-
ships of the ordinary, and flag-ships at home, is
as follows
Stations.
120 Britannia Mediterranean
*l2O Caledonia Flag-ship at Plymouth
P2O Howe
*llO Queen Flsg_ship at Portsmouth
t 110 San Josef Guard-ship of Ordinary at Pl; -
mouth
Camperdown Flag-ship at Sheerness
Impregnable Fitting out at Plymouth
Prince3s Charlotte Mediterranean
Victory
mouth
Rodney Mediterranean
Asia
Calcutta . Mediterranean
Ganges . Mediterranean.
Monarch Fitting out at Sheerness
Powerful..... Mediterranean
Thunderer Mediterranean
Bellerophon Mediterranean
Ocean Guard ship of Ordinary, Sheer.
ness
Vanguard Mediterranean
Cambridge Mediterranean
Indus .. Fitting out at Portsmouth
Revenge Mediterranean
Belleisle
Benbow Mediterranean
Blenheim East Indies
Edinburgh Mediterranean
Hastings Mediterranean
Implacable Mediterranean
Melville Fast Indies
Poicticrs G uaz dship of ordinary, Chatham
Welesley East Indies
Excellent Gunnery ship, Portsmouth
Total, 32 line-of-battle ships.
27 sail of the line, of which 7 are of 100 guns and upwards
1 of ... 92
6 of ... 84
2 of . . 80
3 of ... 78
7 of 72
1 of ... 74

*lO4
104
104
V"

80
tBO

-1-72
72

17 Mediterranean.
3 India.
4 At home.
3 Flag ships at home.

sag.

27 27
N.B.—Those marked * arc flag-ships on the 'ionic
station.
The five ships marked f are not sea-going ships although
in commission. i
... .

Steam Vessels in Mediterranean.—Nine war steam-ves-
sels, aggregate of 2,160 horse poner and 42 guns, exclu-
sive of steamers employed in conveyance of mails and des-
patches.
This list does not include the ships mentioned
by cur Contemporary as preparing anti ready to
receive their crews, such as the St. Vincent, the
Clarence, the London, &c., for it is not, we believe,
true that they are prepared for immediate service.
Our Contemporary's list only embraces a small por-
tion of the ships that are in the same state of for-
wardness as they are. But what is the result of
our list ? Why, that England has 27 sail of the
line in commission, 16 of which are of the most
formidable description, and most approved con-
struction. Never before had England, when at
peace, though threatened with the united forces of
France and Spain, when Spain had a formidable
navy, so powerful and efficient a fleet. If war
should be forced on by the war-party in France
—which Heaven forbid—the fleets of England
would be aided by the Russian fleets, and the few
ships which the Austrians and Turks possess,
while France would have to contend against them
single- handed.
Besides the 27 sail of the line thcre are 5
guard-ships which are not sea-worthy, but each one
of those has an organized though small crew, which
could be easily turned into an equal number of
sea-going ships, and would be the nucleus of a full
crew, and capable of rendering efficient service.
An important feature, however, 'in the above

list is the 9 war steamers in the Mediterranean with
an aggregate power of 2,160 horses, and carrying
42 large guns, exclusive of steam vessels employed
in the conveyance of mails. That force is at least
twice as great as the force of the same kind which
the French could collect, and, as we stated yesterday,
this important class of vessels is to be rapidly
augmented. Such facts dissipate at once the gloom
in which the Tory Journals, by their false state-
ments, have endeavoured to envelope the public
mind. Our fear is lest we should be too strong,
not too weak, and should be tempted by strength
into the exhibition of arrogance, or the commission

of injustice.
The Times, which has taken the lead in the
foolish attempt to depreciate our Navy, and has
been followed even in its folly by its rivals, has
endeavoured to make it appear that our ships are
undermanned in comparison with French ships.
But it never was the practice for British men-of-
war to carry so many men as French, and at
present the crews of our ships contain no foreigners,
no wretched gaol-birds, no imp►essed, imprisoned,
and disaffected men ; and though they have not
their war complements, they are better manned,
even with their peace complements, than were the
average of our men of war at the period of our

greatest naval successes.
We beg, however, to be understood as not advo-
cating the practice of undermanning our ships in
peace. On the contrary, we have always been of
opinion that the wisest and most economical policy
is to keep comparatively few ships afloat in peace,
and provide every one with nearly a double crew of
seamen, so that every ship in case of war might
spare half her seamen, and make up an efficient
crew by embarking marines or landsmen. But
whatever may be the defects or the merits of the
undermanning system, it existed long before the
Whigs came into office, and for years the propriety
of adopting a different course was unavailingly
pressed on the Tories. It is the merit of the pre-
sent Ministers, that, by a consistent and steady
course of improvement in the naval service, they
have contributed to make it no longer a bugbear to
the seamen; and they have been able, without
having recourse to any extraordinary temptations,
or adopting the Tory plan of man-stealing, to send
a. formidable fleet to sea, manned by willing hearts.
The Times has frequently stated that the sea-
men are overworked in her Majesty's service, which
is therefore 'made distasteful to them. Such a
statement is wholly without foundation. Nothing
is more pleasant than the cruizes which our squa-
drons have lately made, more agreeable to the sea-
men, or effected by a smaller quantity of toil. The
squadron that was at Lisbon had literally nothing
to do, and the necessary labours of keeping the
ships clean and in order could not occupy the men.
In fact, the whole crews of men-6f-war are only
required to fight their guns, and a much less num-
ber of seamen than they usually carry, is sufficient
at all times to perform all the other necessary la-
b.ib)loeaiunnr
gtth,gDd t
idle,
work
sie
kI t
forlimh'e the
n
lamented
hs
ecerveewr hears statesman
o ot
eskf
meNa
ea
pi) Naval Officers
them O
its ffi
frothpcs er
pre.
sent idolatry proposed to employ civilians in digging
holes and filling them up again ?
The comparison, however, which is supposed
by the Times to disgust merchant seamen with her
MAJESTY'S service, is the quantity of work re-
quired on board the latter more than the former.
The work on board merchant vessels, however,
which carry comparatively few hands, is, under
ordinary circumstances, four times as heavy as the
work on board men-of-war. Not the heavy work,
but the coercion, the confinement, the distrust, the
insufficient pay, are the causes why merchant sea-
men feel a repugnance to serve in men-of-war ; and
these will never be removed by the Tories, who
avow their love of coercion, refuse all confidence
in the people, and assert that they never can be
too ill-treated, too much plundered, and too much
debased.

By the Fulton, French steamer, which arrived at

„e •

Marseilles on Saturday last, we have received ad-
vices from Beyrout of the 19t.h, Constantinople of
the 14th, Alexandria of the 19th, and Malta 0!
the 27th ult. The despatches brought by the
Fulton were expected in Paris on Tuesday morn-
ing, but owing to the sudden and extensive over-
flowing of the rivers Rhone and Saone, which
completely flooded the roads and rendered them
impassable by horses, they did not arrive before
Wednesday evening.
The news they bring is in
the highest degree interesting- and important, and
will be found in another part of The Sun. To
their other gallant achievements, the Allies have
added the capture of Solon and the defeat of
Tana 111 NI PA CII A , hitherto deemed invincible
the Turks and Egyptians. The siege of St. Jean
d'Acre has also been cotnmenced, aid this strong-
hold once taken, the sceptre of MEHEMET ALr's
power in Syria is for ever broken. The expedition
has been crowned with most astonishing success,
and altogether justifies the representations of Lord
PONSONBY, that the Viceroy of EGYPT never had
any hold upon the affections of the Syrians.
Large bodies of Turkish troops continued up to the
14th ult. to embark daily at Constantinople for the
Syrian coast. The Turkish force then in Syria
amounted to ten thousand men, and it was ex-
pected that ten thousand more would reach the
Syrian coast before the end of October. To meet
theexpenses of these expeditions, the Porte was about
to contract a loan of three miltions sterling which
the London house of RICARDO and Co. had agreed
to take at eighty per cent., at six per cent. interest,
of which the payment was to be sccur.td on the
customs. The Porte was likewise preparing to
issue a new coinage on a standard of value, which
should subsequently prevent time shameful and ne•
farious depreciations •in the currency which has
heretofore brought so many miSfortunes upon that
_ .
country.

MEHEMET ALI had returned from Cairo to
Alexandria, and bore his reverses of fortune with
remarkable firmness. He re-established the 'com-
munication with Suez, which had been inter-
rupted ; liquidated the claims of the European mer-
chants upon his Government ; and acted in every
way as if nothing extraordinary had happened.
He had sent a courier to IBRAHIM PACIJA in
Syria with instructions, as was supposed, to make
pacific overtures to the English Admiral.

There is no news of any interest in the Paris
Journals of Wednesday. Nothing was talked of
hut the opening of the Chambers, and great apprehen-
sions were entertained that some attack would be again
made on the person of tlic KING. Marshals So ULT
and GERARD had, however, taken precautions for in-
viand), filling the streets with troops on the slight-
est indications of the commencement of an enreufe•
Some stormy discussions were said to have takel),
place at a Council of Ministers held on Tuesday,
but out of the Council-chamber the subject of them
was not known. As we momentarily expect the
arrival of the KING'S Speech, the following ex-
tracts are all that need be given from Wednesday's

journals :
Mr. Porter, the English Commissioner appointed to
carry on the negotiation relative to the Treaty of
Commerce between France and Great Britain, having
come to an understanding with the French Commis-
sioners, has confided the conclusion of the Treaty to
Mr. Bulwer, Secretary to the English Legation. Mr.
Porter, whose presence here is no longer necessary,
will return to his post at London.—Journoldes Debats.
The Moulton. of this morning has no official part.
The Univers says—" It was affirmed to-day in the
Staff of the National Guards, that Marshal- Soult and
Marshal Gerard had, after several conferences, agreed
on a plan for a prompt and energetic suppression of
every attempt at disord r."

The Temps says—" Yesterday evening a Council of
INUnisters, held in the course of the day, was talked of,
which was said to have been very long and very stormy.
The result was not known.—C;mstitutionnel."

Mr. Porter, who only waited for a favourable oppor-
tunity to terminate the commercial negotiations with
France, has left Paris to-day, bting recalled by his
Government. Having to direct the proceedings of the
Committee formed for tile superintendence of the rail.
ways, his presence at London has become necessary,
since the numerous and serious ,aelitiffpnts•thaL. Lay
taken place. Mr. Porter hopes
to resume.,the duties of his nfitsiOn to tho
Government, which he has hitherto conducted7With'so'
much good-will and ,such sincere love of peace. We
are sorry to say that there is little probability that Lord
Paltnerston will afford him an opportunity to do so, for
the policy of the English Government tends more and
more to render the two nations irreconcilable.—Courrier
Francais.

BOURSE.—PArds, WEDNESDAY, Nov. 4.
HALF-PAST TB/Mg.—The Post-office has stuck up a
notice that the Marseilles and Lyons mails, due yesterday
and this day, have not arrived, and that an express re-
ceived from Chalons states that the communications with
Lyons arc cut off by the flaods, but expresses have arrived
from Marseilles. Fur the Account the Three per Cents.
opened at 77f. 15c., advanced to 771. 20c., declined te
761. 30c., and closed at 76f. 60e., lower than yesterday
1 per cent. The Five per Cents., from 1091. 50e., ad.
vaaced to 1091. 60c., dropped to 1081. 35c., and closed at
108 f. 60c., a fall of If. 45c. For Money the Thrte pc.
Cents. arc 1 per cent., and the Five per Cents. if 40 ..
lower. Bank of France Shares 50f., the Laflhe Bank
5,000 f. Shares 101., and the Belgian Bank 201. lower;
the Laffitte Bank I,ooof. Shares sf. higher. Belgiar.
Five per Cents. 1 per cent. and the Three per Cents. 95c.
lower. For the Account the latter is 631. 25c., 671. 50c.,
and 671. 55c. Spanish Active as yesterday ; it oscillated
from 221 to 221, closing at the latter price. Neapolitan
Bonds 50c., and the Roman lower. St. Germain
Railway Shares 51., Versailles Right Bank 121. 50e., and
Versailles Left Bank 121. 50e. lower.

first Highest Lowest Last
Price Price. Price. Prier
Flench 5 per Cents lO9 40 ... 101) 40 ... 103 20 ... 108 40
414 per Cents lOO 25 ... Iro 25 ... 100 25 ... lOn 25
4 per Cents
9, 25 ..• 95 715 ..• 95 ... 95
3 per Cents 77 ~... 77 ... 76 20 ... 76 35
+tank of fiance 2125 ..f3NS ... 3100 ... 3100
Lattitte Bank I,ooof. Sh 1025 ...10311 ... :025 ...1b25
5,0001. Sh
[Belgian Bank
5 per Cents 97 4 ~. ir q ... 97 ... 07
3 per Cents 6.3
... fis ... 67 30 ... 67 30
ipanish Active .:24 ... ;IN ... 221/ii ... 22%
Passive 5 ... 5 ... 5 _.
New Dilerred
Neapolitan
101 40.,. 101 tiO ... 101 40... ,01 sr,
Roman
100 N ... 101% ... 100% ... 10,,1'

••----- ----
RAILWAY $ll A 11E5.
it. Germain
ersailles, It. B 385
...
255 «. 380
LB.
Orleans .
Strasburg to Bale 375 ... SSO ... 375 ... asp 25
%iulhausen to Thwart 450 ... 450 ... 450 ... 00

CHANCERY COURT-(THIS DAY.)

The Lord Chancellor proceeded with the hearing o
Irpeals to-day.

BARNARD V. PUMFRET.

This case came before the Court upon appeal from the
,teeision of the Master of the Rolls. Tao quest'on in the
ease was, whether certain legacies were to be pi id out of
the real estate of the testator, the persoz.al estate being in-
sufficient. The Master of the Rolls ordered the legacies
to be paid out of the real estate, and from that decision the
parties appeared.
Ilia LORDSHIP ordered the case to stand over, in order to
see if the parties would now compromise.

VICE-CH AN CE'RY.-(THIS DAY.)

ilk Honour the Vice- Chancellor took short c auses,
unopposed petitions, and motions to-day.
THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL V SHORE LADY lIEWLEY'S

CHARITY.

This c;ise came before the Court upon the petition
the receiver in the cause, praying that a certain sum which
stood in the name of the Accountant-General of the Court
of Exchequer might be transferred to the Accountant
General of the Court of Chancery. The circumstanct
under which the petition was presented were the following :
—Part of the property belonging to. Lady Hewley's Cha
rity being required for the purposes of the York and North
Midland Railway, was purchased by that Company for the
sum of 4,000/. With 3,0004 of that sum other property bad
been purchased for the• Charity, and at the present moment
a sum of about 8001., the residue of the 4,0001., stood it,
the name of the Accountant• General of the Court of Ex •
chequer to the credit of the matter of the York and No. th
Midland Railway and Lady Hewley's Charity. The re-
ceiver had already expended 1,3001. on erecting the new
hospital, and to complete it several hundreds more would he
required. Under these circumstances the Receiver had
presented the present petition for the transfer of the fund
standing in the Accountant-General of the Court of Ex
chequer's name into that,Of the Accountant. General of the
Count of Exchequer.
The Court made the erdcr as prayed.

EXCHEQUER COURT-THIS DAY.

NEGLIGIN V. MITCHELL.

The plaintiff in this case hi'd painted a portrait of Ma-
dame Grisi, which he agreed to allow the defendant to
transfer to copper and print for the sum of 150/., the de-
' fendant also covenanting to deliver to the plaintiff 50. proof
copies, cf which he had only delivered 10. The action
was; tried before Lord Abinger at the Middlesex Sittings
after last Term, when a verJict was found for the plaintiff.
with contiagent damages to the amount of 301.
Mr. THESIGER now moved to enter judgment non ob-
stanre vet-edict°, on the ground of the insufficiency
of the pleas ; it having been proved upon the
trial that the plaintiff had entered into a new
agreement, and consented to receive forty of the impres-
sions then ready, which the defendant offered to allow
him to select from his stock, two days after the new agree-
ment, but then the plaintiff refused to accept, and brought
his action. The Court granted a rule nisi.