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POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS AT VIENNA.

Marquis WELLESLEY .-I.IC had, on a former
occasion called the attention of their Lordships
to
the arrangements at Vienna, and stated that it was
due to the dignity of their Lordship's Hi;use that,
with respect to matters of such vast importance as
the arrangements at Vienna, a complete exposi-
tion of the whole should he laid before them,
without leaving it to individual. Members of the
House to extract information:by motions for pa-
pers relating ra particular branches. -He now re-
peated that this was the plan which, ought ,to be
adopted_ The Noble Earl (Liverpool) had laid
papers• on their Lordship's table on .one or two
branches of the subject, but it was of the last int-.
portance that their' Lordships should have a view
of the whole'system,.so as to judge of the several
branches in all their relations to and bearing upon.
each other. This. was more. particularly impor-
tant and necessary whe' they were, perhaps, o 4
the eve of a new war, and of being obligett to
submit to all those sacrifices and burthens with
which the war must be attended. It was of
-
the highest consequence wl.en they were thus
called upon to. support a system at the expense
Or such great sacrifices, that they should know
what that system was, whether it was a system of
justice and sound policy, or a system of injustice
and spoliation-,-a system calculated' to .create and
foster hostile feelings, and thus to sow the seeds
of war and replunge Europe again into -the sitiia
tion from which it was rescued, or even to reduce
it to a worse condition, if any thing worse could
be imagined, •instead of laying the foundation of
that durabl,2 peace and tranquillity which was so
necessary for the civilised worid. He now main,
therefore, begged to know front the Noble bad,
whether it was his intention to lay on their lord-
ships' table, a complete exposition of this nature,
and upon the answer to that question it would de-,
pend what further steps he might think it proper
to take. •

The Earl of LIVERPOOL--lt was unusual to
make such an exposition to their• Lordships -as
that to which the Noble Marquis had alluded,
before the arrangements had
-been fully completed,
and they were, in point of fact, still in progress.
It been, however, thought not altogether itn-
'proper to lay...the:papers on the table with respect
to one Or tV,obranciies of those arrangements ;
and the prineiple• on which this was done. was,
,that the nittifeiations as to them might be con-
sidered as Completed. He had,- therefore, only
to declare, that at present it was not the inten-
tion of Government to lay before their Lordships
any more papers on the subject of those arrange-
tnents. There was always great inconvenience
in discussing these.detached parts before the whole
was cOmpleteii; because the nature of one or two'
could often not be well understood, without a •
reference to the whole, each being dependent
upon, and illustrative of the rest., How far any
individual might think it proper to regulate his
conduct by that principle,' it was for hint to con-
shier. He assured the Noble Marquis that he
was most anxious for the moment when the whole
could be produced. •
The Marquis of \VELLcSLEY 'observed, that
however desirable it may be deemed to wait until
the period of the whole being complete, .lie could
not avoid feeling some impatience to see those
Vaunted arrangements and admirable adaptations
which were spoken of% The wishes of Podia-
spent and the country were also pretty strong upon
the subject. But what had transpired as to theSe
transactions, he must say, Were such as to shock
the feelings of all mankind. In the view taken
by the Noble Lord, he was rather disposed to
wait, unless the delay should be so long as to render
it desirable for the House•to proceed even upon
such information as it had, to the consideration of
certain prominent points. .One, transaction of
the description to which be alluded, was of
such a -nature as to render. it impossible for
theta to delay any longer. He meant the affair
of Saxony. . On that point, whenever the pro-
mised,day should come, it would be itiecessary for
Noble Lords particularly to shew that the trans-
action was founded on the principles of justice;
because it was distinguished by features peculiar
to itself, and was almost unexampled in the his-
. tory of the world. At least, ,whatever ,may be
said as to the justice of the case, it could not he
said it was justice adThinistered in mercy ! It be-
hoved even the honour of this country that a
speedy investigation should take, place on this
most extraordinary subject. He therefore felt
it his duty, at some early period, t'• request the
attention of their Lordships to the point, aid
perhaps to move for the production oh soniko far-

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tiler documents, which he conceived to be neces-
sary,

LOSSES ON THE LAKES.

,
tatIDARNLF,V complained of the delay to pro
-
'time the doeuntents which the House had ordered in coin-
plinnre with his mltion befor- the recess,' with respect to
gent Naval Administration in the course of the American
War.

Lord MELVILLE.: jilitified the 'delay, by stating,
that in order to comply withthe Noble Earl's motion it be-
clime necessary to ref.r for informatioir to our Officers on
'Lake Ontario, and also to read over all the corresiondence of
lbe Admiralty or two or three years.

TREATY WITH AMERICA:

The 5.;:41-1 of Ltvenioot. rose to move an Address
to the Prince Regent, on the occasion Of the
Treaty-of PeaCe'concladed with the United States
of America. He prefaced it with a short but per-
.tinent speech, which Included a general sketch of
some of the prominent occurrences in the course
of the war, its objects and principles, those fur
Which the negociations were, entered upon, and
those which governed the conduct
.of the British
negociator, in the course of these important trans-
actions. The original object of the war, he ob-
served, on the part of the United States, was to
fo'ree this country to the abandonment of princi-
ples, which were always considered as just, and
even necessary to our national independence.,:And
one of the fortunate results of the war was, that
/hese points were to.he no further prosecuted by
the Government of the United States. Another
point touched upon, was the situation of the
Indian nations, which we were hound in ho-
nour to take care should be as favotikable as
it was at the commencement of the war. The
policy which was pursued with respect to prof-
fered mediation, which in such Case %vas little
more than another word for " arbitration," was
pointed out ljy the Noble Earl ; who also sheaved,
that with respect to those points which lay over
for ulterior arrangements, the most politic and
liberal mode of adjustment was adopted. On the
wh,lle, he characterised the Treaty as equally ho-
nourable and advantageous to this country ; and
concluded by moving an Address to the Prince
Regent, asSurinc,, his l(oval Highness of the great
Satisfaction felt by the House at the terms and
conditions of the Treaty of Peace concluded
.be-
tween Great Britain, and the United States of
America.

Earl STANHOPE said, he did not rise to oppose
any thing contained in the Address, but made a
few remarks upon the much talked of question
Of the Maritime. rights, _which, _it_ woi:lci appear
from what had transpired in - the Negociations,
and the arrangements, were rights which only
vested in Belligerents ; he alluded to the hypo-
thetical case, now that America was at war with
the Algerines, and England-at peace—An Ameri-
can naval officer, Commodore Rodgers, for in-
stance, may, according to his notion of the prin-
ciple laid. down, search any English merchant
vessel fo'r ;American seamen, and finding a few,
May take them out to the eventual injury, perhaps
to the total loss of such vessel. He wondered

Low an English merchant would like such a prim—
Veal illustration of maritime rights.—(A laugh.)
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, though he did not
mean to oppose the Address, could not avoid
making a few remarks upon one or two topics con-
nected with the Treaty. He particularly adverted
to the demand of new terms, with respect to a
new line of demarkation, &c. in consequence of
new continental pacifications, and which he cen-
sured as impolitic and unjust. As to the Indian
nations, all that was obtained for them were the
boundaries allowed by the Treaty of Greenville;
and, lastly, the Noble Marquis adverted to a pro-
position which he understood had been made by.
the American Commissioners for treating all slave
traders as pirates, and which was resisted by the
British Commissioners. The war he co_ucei►•ed
to have been onbecessarily protracted, And the
'Treaty at length obtained, carried very little on
the face of it of adjustment of those points, which
Were held out as the original causes of war.
The Earl of Ltvgapoot. spoke -iu explanition,
and assured the Noble Marquis and the-House,
that what had been stated of the proposition as
made by the American Ministers respecting the
Slave Trade; was. totally unfounded. Until'that
moment, through' any channel whatever, either
'public or private, he never heard a word of such
a proposition. The Article, as
.it stood,.was ori-
ginally by the British Commissioners,
and to which the American Ministers never pro-
'posed any addition.—(Hear, hear.)
• 'Those Noble Lords spoke respectively in expla-
nation ; after which the question was put,—the
Addtess- voted vent. dis. and ordered to he pre-
sented to his Royal Highness by the Lords, with
white staves.

The•Bilis upon the table were forwarded in
their respective stages, aid the House adjourned
till to-morrow.

Mr: WROTTESLEY gave native, that on an early day he
would more for ince to bring in a Bill kr the security of
purchasers of lands under false stamps.
Sir C. BURRELL gave notice. that on to-ruorrow week he
would'submit to the HOIISE, on the s::hject of the
Servants of the Royal filemsehuld receiving gratuities from
perums attending- the Court.
The Southern Whale fishery Bill and' the British•Whit4
llerehr,g Fishery Bill went through Connittees.
The Report on the County Rate Hill was talien into further
consideration,,and several amendments were proposed by
Mr. ScrjeanfOnslow, i ord Milton, Mr. P. Carew, and other
Members. They were agreed to, and it was ordered that the
Dill should be read a third tune on Wednesday.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE gave notice, that he should on
Thursday next make a motion for tnrther information respect-
ing' the 'treaty of Fentainbleau, and the execution of it.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH, under the present oircumstances of
the country, postponed his motion respecting the Declara-
tion of the Allies the tlie. He would name a day without
loss of time as soon as he was by events enabled.
The Report of the Committee of Sapidy was brought up
and agreed to.

. REVIVAL OF TEE INCOME•TAX.
The'6IANCEy.,OR of the EXOVEQUER gave no-
tice, that on Wednesday next, in the Committee
of Ways and Means,. be should take an opportu-
nity of bringing forward some propositions rela-
tive to the Income Tax, for the purpose of re-
viving and continuing the same.
-Mr. HORNER -asked a question which could not
be distinctly heard, but was thought to be, whe-
ther/the Right Hon. Gentleman, inconsequence
of the renewal of the Income Tax; intended to
give up his plan of the assessed Taxes.
The CHANc.ELLon of the EXCHECIyER answered,
that he had no intention of abandoning these
Taxes, although they might be still farther ad,

jeurneXtrom time to time. The Bill might pro-
bably be read a second time on Wednesday.
Mt. WHITBItEAD wished to ask, if it was in-
tended to renew the Income Tax, whether the
country continued in a state Of peace, or if this
measure was to be adopted, in anticipation of a
renewal of the war ?

The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEIWER replied,
that the extensive preparations that were making,
if they proved only defensive, rendered the revi-
val of the Tax equally necessary, as if we were at
war.

Mr. PONSONBY put off his motion. rel4ire to the instruc-
tions giren to Lord W. Beutinck concerning Genoa..

In a Committce.on the Scotch Judges' Salaries Bill, the
CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed that each of
th.,e judges should have a salary of 5001. per annum, in •lieu
ofall former salaries, feet, and emoluments, which, after
some observations from Mr... 1. I'. GRANT, was agreed to.
The Scotch Jury Bill *as read a third time and passed. -
Mr. ARBlrrrisKYr brought up an Account of the Prize-
money arising from the Capture of Java.
Lord CASTLEREAGH, in answer to Mr. Ponsonbv, said,
that the Papers relative to 'Genoa would probably be:printed
in the course of this week.

The Scotch Mad-houses and Commissary Courts Compen-
satinn Bilk were read a second time.
The Packet Boat pill was withdrawn.

Lnid A. LIA(LION-morerl fur Returns of the Sums paid
to the Printers of the Scotch Universities, and of the draw-
backs on the paper used by them for printing., together with
the value of all hooks printed by them within a certain pe-
riod.

The Irish Prize Goods Bill was read a first time, and order-
ed tor a second reading to-morrow.
• LATHROP MURRAY.

Sir S. ROMILLY rose for the purpose of moving that there
be laid before the House a Copy of the Report of the Recor-
der upon the case of Lathrop Murray, who had been sen-
tenced to be transported for seven years for bigamy. The
Honunrable Gentleman male several remarks upon the ne-
cessity of the utmost openness in all matters relative to the
administration of public justice, and upon the disproportion
in this case between the crime and the punishment. - He went
through the circumstances of the case already before our
Readers, contending, that there were many points of otenua-
thin that were almost peculiar to it. Out of one hundred !tad
four cases of bigamy, within a certain number of year,., on:y
twenty-three bad been transported, and the rest imprisoned
for different periods, and fined to diffetent amounts. He
thought it necessary triat. every informatiOn should be sup-
plied, not merely for the sake of the-individual, but for time
sake of the Law of the Country, which ought to be modified
and altered, if it were likely to be so misapplied in future.—
He then moved fora Copy of the Recorder's Report.- • •
The ATTORNEY-OENEitAL objected..to the motion, at
considerable length, and stated several of the circumstaacea
Ciiiitairied its the information lard before the Secretary of
State. It was impossible, he contended, that the second
wife could have been, at the time of her marriage, acquainted
with the first marriage, whatever assertions she 'night make
upon the subject. She was then entitled to 10,0001. and
would receive 70,0001. more, on the death of her mother.
It was urged in the Petition of Nr. Murray, that the Recoe-
der had acted partially in sentencing him to seven.years trans-
portation, because his brother was a jeweller, with whom
Mr. Murray had forme:ly had a quarrel. That assertion was
completely groundless, as well as several other things stated
in the documents. _

After a few words from Mr. HILEY AnDINGTeIc, and a re-
ply from Sir S. ItOMILLY, the question was put and negatived.
Mr. HORNER gave notice, that on Wednesday sennight,
he would submit a motion to the House, on the subject of the
late discomfiture nt New Orleans,

ALIEN AcT.
Mr. B.vniusT, atter briefly adverting to the
present state of France, and the great number of Aliens now
in this country, moved for leave to bring in a 1.1111 to provide
further regulations respecting them.

.
Mr. roNsosay thought such a measure ought
not to be resorted to, but when there WaS a probability of
Aliens visiting this country for the purpose of disseminating
principles which might subvert the present system. He ap-
pre-lit:filed there was no danger of this at present, and there-
fore considered the Bill, which it was proposed to bring in,
to be wholly unnecessary. There was no subject on which
the House ought to be so cautions as on one which went to
give the House new Powers. Jo statiugt there were many
Aliens in this country, the Right Hon-Gentleman had laid
no ground whatever lot the measure. He objected to such
an Act, as it exposettnnoffentling individuals to great incor-
venieuces from misrepresentations originating in private ma,
lignity. Even the discrimination of the Right lion. Gentle-
man opposite could :PA guard effectually against this, and he
thought it probable many who had received money from this
`Government had been in the habit of sending information to
France, while persons who were wholly innocent were sent
out of the country. The aliens who at present Come to thii
country, he thought, were for the most part our friends, as
thoSe of Bonaparte had not the saute motive • for • leaving.
France.

Mr. 13,\THuRsT in explanation, contended the
measure was called for by the- crisis, and what every one
knew to be the hr.. eat situatinu of France. Dangerous per-
sons.might easily he sent over from Fraus.v as friendly ~leas,
and
.would the Right Hots. Gentleman take upon himself the
resp.ousibility of nut guarding as effectually as possible against
the introduction of such persns'into Englalf,sl ?
Mr. WHITBKBAn said the night lion.- Gentle-
wall had contended the tuea.sure.was necessary from the pre.
sent situation of France ? yet what was her situation with re-
spect to this country was that which they on that side of the
House had heed- asking fur some timo,. without being able to
get an answer. An answer ought to be given before.such a
measure was resorted to—before it r was proposed to renew
the war Alien Act, it ought to be known whether the coun-
try was in a state of peace oryar. Did the Right lion. Gen-
ticsran know of any- dangerous perions having been sent
front Prance to Ireland ? He did not suppose he slid ; but if
it were so, still he contended this measure would be Useless
in that respect. - Wish this feeling, he should-take the sense
of the Hause on the question.
_ _ _

Mr. D. liaow!V thought enough was already
before the House respecting the present situation of France
to justify the ,ensure propOsed by the ltight Honourable
_Gentleman.

. .
Mr. liArtuntsT maintained the Bill was neces-
sary, and that sufficient grouNds for having recourse to it
were furnished, by what was known of the present situation
of France, without referring to the state in which her relit-
lions with this country were placed.
After some further conrersatioti, in which Mr. H. Adding-
'ton, Mr. Whitbread, Mr. Ponsonhy,. and Mr. Ward--partici-
pated, the House divided, when there were 24 for the motion,
and 3 against it, and these not being SulliCient to form a
House, it was of course adjourned. ,