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the army should be reduced to as low a sum as
was consistent with the security and strength of
the country. Ili his own opinion, a large pro.
portion of the Property Tax would have beet' the
wisest meosure, wider all the eirciunsiancei of the
country, :and he 'believed that a'siniilar op+4.:_ion
was pretty generally cut ertaiueti. 'flee Right
Gentleman *had abandoned that tax, because the
voice of the people seemed to be agpiost it ; but
if the revenue of the (*.anti* were not mid,: com-
mensurate to.its•expenditure, the their asked
for,,. and a much larger slim, would be wanted.
111 r• :pou(t.As maintained,-that the. House e.-as
called 111)011 iiya
and pruposed. that the Right Hon. Gentleman •
,should fibsrpone his vote till after'!'./ I:'sdltNi. next,
when tile, N7bre—.l7ol4-(tra.:trelTzil-710 esotil7 h Ve
given such ex4Janations,..s.tiiight govci.n then)
with'ihpeet to a peace est.tblish went.
WHITBREAD' rrrtllely iigrced ~with the Hon.
GentlemanAilio Mut Just s'-it....00wn. It was not
till Lite time of Mr. Peccevar Budget-}lad
been submitted to the _House in piece-meals, and
he desired-to prott:st against thR: unconstitutiouril
mode of-proceediug. The House Utiqd be hi-
formed of th creal situation, oft he'conn'th, which:
could not be asaertiritn! till the Noble Lord, had,
stated:what had been arr;tnuil at Congress. He
had heard an Hon;Gentlenoin speak of the Pro-
perty Tax, whose.,ticeS,.,seemed tcilinve vani.shed
and i,t.yirtt3es to remain; but,
,though we were
always extremely favourable to the dead, he feared this tax ‘vas, not quite extinct ; tier it the
Rigtit 'Hon. Gentleman had wedded it to the War
Taxes., and •Alleant to restore it _again as sOOtl. 'as
this country. was involved in war, then " it only.
steeped)," and Might shortlY he. 'rel:'ived. Europe
Might 'soon be engaged it).another bloody war:—
the events of the last few days would, in all pin-
bability, produce a civil ‘‘ ia,France ; butt be
trusted that we should not meddle' With it, and be.
took that early opportunity to enter his protest
against •any interference in the internal affairs of
that country.
Mr. PHILLIPS th0”:;11t that many of the taxes,
particularly that on windows, were extremely
partial and oppressive. .
The:CHAN,cEnt.on of the EXCHFQCER said,•that
the Schedule should be reconsidered. by a Catmnit-
tee of the whole House. .
Mr. Putwps theil objected to the Tax on Cot-
ton. The Right, lion. Gentletnaq hat
.proposed a
Tax of sd. pound oo cotton importaal in to-
reign ships, and Id. iii the pound on lirititil) ships;
bitt this; heeontende4; would'be to serve the
terests of. France z.athet than of this country.
Sir JOHN NEWPOiiTS oiikctio9 to the Speaker's
leaving the ClMir Was,, that it went to perpettuite
a system of votilq., the supplies of the year by
piece-meal, and not giving Sufficient information,
to. the Houle, contrary to the old and constitu-:
tional practice.
The,CuaNcEl.nott of the ExcnEatra had never
intended to lay a partial incorAe tax, for such the
Hou.:Gentleman (Mr. Phillips) had. called the
tax On cotton, on_any class of subjects ;- bat he
had stated, that if the Property Tax were abint-
dolled, the manufacturing classes would be called
upon to contrihate towards the burtheats of the
State.. He was about to propose a Resolution to
the House, to continue the whole of the War
Duties on Customs, except Cotton isiirLirted it)
British ships. What he intended was a permaneut
duty of Id. in the pound.
Al;'. FINLAY insisted, thit the Tax proposed was
a continuance of the Property 'fax, and that the
Right Hon. Gentleman was the most formitlable
antagonist that the mlnufacturers had ever mat
with. They Would now have to pay 3,0001.
where they only paid I ,0001. before, and this was
a system which every person aeqnaintea with
manufactures ought to oppose.
Mr. W. FITZGERALD 3aul, that the only duty
existing in Ireland was a permanent duty.
The 'Question was then called for, and the
House divided..

I ' ' Ayes, 95—Noes, 21--Majority, 71.
When the Gallery re-opened the CHANCELLOR
of the Exc.HEQuER Was mentioning his intention
to postpone those Resolutions on which differ-
ences of opinion exited. _
Alderman ATKINs observed, the Americans laid
conntervailing duties on imports in their own ships.
In answer to a question from Mr. WYNNE, the
CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER said, he intend-
eel to move an Amendment of the Schedule. To a
question from Sir M. W. RIDLEY he said he had no
present int ention.to propose any duty on coals.
On the CHANCELLoR Of the LXCUE&UER'S 1110-
tion, the Schedules A. li. and part of C. were
struck out. •
Lord MILTON observed, that the Tax on car-
riages for pleasure was strained, as those not kept
for that pnrpose, if by chance• but ' once used so;
were noticed by the surveyors, and surcharged.
The Tax on brood mares, it
,was understood, ex-
empted cone 21:et• tl:d for any other purpose, of
which description there were not, perhaps, a score
in England. The nature of the exemption should
be stated more clearly.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCMEQUER Wished to
reler these topics to a Consolidation Bill, which
he thought was necessary.

Lord It. SEYMOUR wilted the case under the
horse duty of small farmers, who abounded in his
county, where farms were from 701. to 150/. a
year, and who would nOw paT 51. a year for' a
saddle horse, instead of 21. 17s. Gd. •by whicit
they wo-nld be burthened more than by the Pro-
perty TaX ; at 701. 'a year. they paid but 7s. tid,
and Otorse.tax of. 21. 17s. 6d. making only 31.55.
• At 150/.:7 year, they paid' for property-tdx and
horse-tal 121. ss. These persons would' be now.
in worse'Sitnation. He supposed that on the
non-renewal.
,of the ineotne-tax it was not in-
tended to put any class in a worse stlte.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a
heavy charge must imavoidably tall somewhere.
If the tale at which the tax was taken was
still those immediately above it, would -feel
hard-
ship. 11 e did not know how to avoid this.
After a desultory conversation,'
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCII CQUER proposed
to recommit the Resolutions. The lICW Assessed'
Taxes were to be charged on the establishment of
last, year ; -the annual notice might yet be glven,
The Resolutions objected to wejy. „postponed
till _Friday, and the other Orders were (disposed
of.—Adjourned.