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eonsumption. It appeared to him a very insane restriction.
The people of India were as much the subjects of lee Ma.
jesty as we were, or those in the West Indies, and there
ought to be no restriction on the intercourse or the free
interchange of produce between all. The talk of East le-
dla ifitOetests and West India interests had been the bane
of th's country. He hoped the Right. Hon. Gentleman
would introduce a clause veiling the trade to all spirits
made in India.
Mr. LABOUCHERE hoped the House would confine
itself to the question then before the House. He had in-
troduced the Bill as one affecting rum only, and he would
think he was committing a bleach of faith were he to agree
to the suggestion of the Hon. Member. He had the ques-
tion of tree intercourse as much at heart as the Hon.
Gentleman, but he thought the present was not the time to
go into the large questions that would be opened up were
he to consider the qusstion of India spirits generally.
Mr. GOULBURN suggested that some clause ought
to he introdue, d in order to secure that no rum but that
the produce of the sugar cane was introduced under this
Bill. He had prepated clauses for that purpose, and if
the Bill should go through Committee, he would commu-
nicate them to the Right Hon. Gentlemen, and move them
at a fuels° stage
M-. LABOUCHERE did not think there was any ne-
cessity fur the introduction of such provisions. The Cus-
toms were of that opinioe, and he thought it would he Let-
ter to leave all the regulations on the subject to the Indian
Government. Ererybody knew that rum was exported
from England to the Contisent, and that three-fourths of
that was Ileitis's spirit. Now all he de ired was, 'hit that
supetiatendence should be exercised ever the manufacture
of rum which would effectually guard against those abuses
which they professed to guard against.
Mr. HAWES protested against the whole line of argu-
ment adopted in the present discussion. The Right Hun.
Gentleman (Mr. Goulburn) looked to his own especial in-
terest, and not to that of the public. Bccause if it was the
interest of the public to have the Right Hon. Gentleman's
rains it was also their interest to have it cheap. He (Mr.
Hawes) considered that whit was now proposed was a most
useful step. The Excise regulations were more stringent
in the East Indies than in the West, and he quite agreed
with the Right Hor. Gentleman the President of the
Board of Trade, that they should be put on an equal foot-
ing. He was told the Right Hon. Gentleman the Mem-
i‘er for the Tower Hamlets (Sir S. Lushington) meant to
being a motion before the House with respect to the sub-
ject of slavery ; when that ►o'otion was brought forward it
eould be seen that flee labour was a far greater source of
profit than slave labour. He (Mr. Hawee) found its the
clause the words << British protection." Now were not all
those places to which the B 11 referred to be considered as
dependencies of the British empire ? Were they not all
governed by officers of the British Crown. and why should
the people there not have the benefit ofthcir protection ?
Mr. GOULBURN denied his advocating the interast
of the Vent Indies furher than it coincided wills the inte-
rest of the public generally.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
they might meet all the objects proposed to he gained by
the clause without adopting the very words of it. He ces-
tainly had some objection to the Right Hon. Gentleman's
clause being adopted in its present sta e. He the (Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer) thought that whatever should
be done agreeably to what was suggested in the clause
should be done in India. He was satisfied that a discre-
tionary power should be vested in the Privy Council in
this country, which could occasionally be brought into ac-
tion. He could not consent to any words limiting the
mode in which their objects were to be carried into effect,
and consequently to the words proposed he had a strong
objection.
Mr. WARBURTON hoped no words would be in-
troduced into the Bill subjeceng the produce of the sugar
cane to any other restrictions teen those on West India
produce. He thought that'any prescription as to the mode
in which the Governor-General of India should carry these
objects into effect would be injurious to the East India
interests; and he thought this would be the effect of the
words proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman. All he
(Mr. Warburton) wished was that the restrictions on the
produce of both countries should be precisely the same.
Mr PALMER thought that if this equal zation of
duty took place, the West Indies were in justice entitled
to the removal of certain restrictions under which they
laboured, such as the prohibitory duties on timber and
provisions.
Mr. SHIEL said their object was to - introduce East
India rum at the same duty as the rum of the West
Ladies, but to have security that it should be the produce
of the sugar cane. The question was, how could they
obtain that object? It appeared to him that the means
must be Id. with those who were most conversant with
the country.

Mr. HOGG agreed in all that bad been said respecting
the understanding that the duty on sugar being equalized,
the duty should be also equalivd on rum, big the pro.
duce of the sugar cane.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that he would endeavour
to meet the views of the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite.
The clause was then agreed to be passed over.
The 8,11 was then reported, with amendments, and the
report was ordered to be received di Monday next.
RAILWAYS BILL

On the motion of Mr. LABOUCHERE, the Rail-
ways Bill went through Committee.

The Lease and Release Bill was read a second time,
and ordered so be committed on Monday.
MEDICAL REFORM.
Mr. HAVES moved for leave to bring in a Bill for
the better government of the Medical Profession.
Captain PECHELL said that the Hon. Member hay.
ing stated that he di-4 not intend t,) extend his Bill to
chemists and druggists, he should certainly not oppose
the Bill.

Leave was then given to bring in the Bill
HULL DOCKS.

Mr. HUTT moved that the Minutes of Evidence taken
during the last Sassion of Parliament before the Commit-
tie en the Hull Docks', be laid before the House, and
printed.

Mr. SHIEL thought it would be of great service that
the evidence should be published.
Mr. GOUL BURN thought the House ought to be
careftil how they sanctioned the printing of evidence relat-
ing to a private undertaking at the public expense. It
would tr.! a dangerous precedent.
The motion was then agreed to.
MUNICIPAL COUNCILS.
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Mr. J. A. SMITH moved for leav,) to bring in a Bill
t) enable Municipal Councils to rai3e money by granting
Annuities. and to apply the same in payment of old debts.
Mr. GOULBURN opposed the motion which, after a
few words from

Captain PECHELL, was withdrawn.
MATES IN THE ROYAL NAVY.
Captain PECHELL moved for a return of all mates
in the Royal Navy, showing the year and month in which
they passed their examination for the rank of Lieutenant.

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INQUESTS ON PAUPERS.
On the motion of Colonel SIBTHORP, the follow-
ing returns were ordered :—Return of the number of
cases, for seven years, before and since the New Poor-
law came into operation, to the latest period to which the
return can be made up, on which inquests have been held
on the bodies of deceased paupers, specifying the names
end ages of each, the places in which such inquests have
been held, the names of the coroners, and the verdicts of
tee juries. Copies of the minutes of evidence taken on
the inquest held before the coroner of the county of Mid-
dlesex on the body of Samuel Daniels, at Chelsea, in the
county of Middlesex, in August, IS4O. Also copies of
the minutes of evidence taken on the inquest held Wore
the coroner of the county of 'Middlesex on the body of
James Lindsey, in the Union Workhouse at Hendon, in
the county of Middlesex, in November and December
1840.
The House then Adjourned.