The Sun.
London, England, 1812-03-24 00:00:00

Hon. rriend (Mr. ronsonby), in voting t gainst aid
ntsolutiota.

• Mr. ANri'Nt obie&ed against putting the grant on
the merits of the Princesses. It was taking an invi-
dious ground of argument ; for it exposed those
who opposed the grant to the implication of hav-
ing doubted the existence of such -Merits.
..The
House, he thought, was bound to vole for inquiry
before the grant. He complained, that, notwith-
standing all the money voted to support the splen-
dour of the Crown, there should have been but. one
Court held this year, and Maintained that the House
should consider whether the 70,0001. applicable to
the payment of his .Royal Highness's debts might
riot some of it be directed to other purposes.
Mr. PONSONRY agreed with hit Hon. Friend (Mr.
W. Wynne) that nothing could be more unfair than
to argue the question in such a way as to throw an
odium upon those who opposed it. The chara6ters of
those who were the objeas of the bounty of the
Hcuse formed no part of the consideratio❑ ; i( they
did, the Right Hon. Gent. should have made his mo-
tion many years ago, as the Princesses could not be,
supposed to have acquired all their amiable qualities
since the illness of the King. The question ouw
was, whether there was any ground for the anti-
cipation proposed, and the only inquiry s.hould be,
whether they were likely toadept such a change in
their situation speedily as would require an increase
Of expence It had been said that, the additional
10,0001. a year to: the Queen 1k as made without any
regard to the expences she might incur in this re-
speat as conne6ted with the younger branches of the
family, but he would state that that was not the
ground on which it was-argued by the House, -and
he would appeal to the recialle6lion of all present,
whether the removing of the Royal daughters from
place to place was not enumerated among the reasons
for the demand ? These grants ought to be placed on
an intelligible footing and if they were regulated by the
age of the parties, all could not make their claims,
as all were ❑ot of equal ages.
Mr. HENRY THORNTON thought it right that
the Princ'eSseS should have establishments separate
limn the Prince, but no inconvenience could result
from postponing the grant until after the Report of
the Committee.

Mr. WROTTESLEY spoke in favour of the post-
ponement. - _ .

Mr. BAktHAM said he would ask the Right Hon.
Gentleman, (Mr. Perceval) not as Counsel to the
Princess of Wales, but as Miniver of, the country,
how he could recommend this expellee, while he
overlooked another illustrjous personage with whom
they were more immediately conneded ?
Mr. TIERNEY said, he felt himself justified by the
silence of the Right Hon. Gent. in assuming it as
a fad, that the :separation of the Prince and Prin-
cess of Wales had his sandion. (A cry of No, no !)
Then the Committee would do well to recoiled that
the Princess of Wales had not one farthing,of her
own above 50001. a year, but was indebted for all:
beyond it to the bounty of the Prince. Why ought
she not to be rendered, independent ? The Right
Hon. Gentleman was bound to inquite into this.—
He and the Lord Chancellor ought to know whether
the inTriry had proved disgraceful or otherwise ;
and it disgraceful, ought to have withheld alt. -If
his Majesty was to die she would ascend the Throne.
Did the Right Honourable Gentleman mean to say
she was unfit to be a Queen of this country Why
did he cast off one client for the purpose of taking
another ? The Right Hon. Gentleman was bound
to state what had produced this change.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
its to what he was bound to do as far as it affeded
his own character and condud, he should always
judge -for himself. He did not know with what
view the Right llon.Gentleman now 'came forward,
but he had no objection to state, that neither in his
character as Counsel to her Royal Highness, in
which he had important duties to perform, nor as
Minister, nor in any other capacity, did he see any
means of bringing a charge against her Royal High-
ness, nor did he entertain any opinion calculated to
throw the slightest reflection upon her, further than
this he should not state. As to the situation of her
Royal agline•s, he had no instruction to propose
any additional grant ; but if the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman, who now, fur the first time, suggested it,
could induce Parliament to think favourably of such
a measure, be should be inclined for one to give that.
disposition its full effed.
Mr. TIERNEY said, his reason for alluding to the
subject at present was, because the question now
inessed upon the House. Such grants, the Right
lion. Gentleman knew as well as he did, ought to
proceed from the recommendation of the Crown,
•nd thetetore he (Mr. Tierney) should have little
chance of succeeding in it. All they knew at pre-
arnt, and lie begged them to bear it in their minds,
as, i-hat the Princess of Wales remained a dependent
vii the Prince.

Mr. C. ADAMS thought the matter should. be
sifted to the bottcm.

Mr. WHITBREAD. thought it extraordinary that
the tight_ Hun. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) shuuld recommend Parliainent to send
a message to the Prince. 'He bad stated that he re-
ceived no instruaion to propose a grant to the Prin-
cess of Wale's, that was, in other words,• he had
gi%en no advice to that effect. They had heard the
Right Hon. Gentlerrian state but a tew minutes ago,
that no imputation could attach to her Royal High-
s ess, hut he should not forget that she did at one
time stand stigmatized, that he was once about to
publish in her defence, but that she still temained
tinvindicated., It was extraordinary, that after the
appointment of Lords of the Bed-chamber, who, in
Lis Majesty's present affliaing situation, could disc
charge no other fonaion of their otECe than that of
'satisfying the applications of his anxious subjeas,
public should be informed of the state-:of his
Majesty's health only once a month. This, he
thought, not an improper time to ask the questions
thaf hiid been put.
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER said, what
I e liiift-s!'ated with respe& to the Princess of Wales,
etas; that neither in his situation as Counsel to her
Royal Lt.gliness, nor in any other chara6ter, was be
conscious that there existed a ground of charge.—
He should'al ay s prepared to nlaJce. the same
statement.

Mr. LOCKHART spoke.a few words in a low tone
of voice.'

Mr. tLusroN thought the object of the,Meisage