The Sun.
London, England, 1824-11-06 00:00:00

PROVINCIAL JOURNALS.

(From the Liverpool Courier, Nov. 3.)
THE Wtitos.--We made no remarks upon the
speeches at the late dinner of the Cheshire Whigs, for they
formed so obvious a comment upon the assumption of " all the
tulente," that they needed none of ours to point out their en-
tire destitution of all eloquence, wit, and logic. More vapid,
slipslop feebleness we have never seen, and the members
must have had a most contemptible opinion of the under-
standings of the public, on whose minds it was intended ihat
this Meeting should make a great impression, to stoppage that
the wine-warm : hiccupping or their political common-places
could produce any thing but a weary yawn, or a contemptu-
ous sneer. Disaentionm, it was evident from the dinner
exhibition, existed among them. In the true spirit of their
free and easy system,. one had made a *duration of his
own opinion, and published it as the opinion of the rest, think-
ing it, no doubt, a part his own politicalfreedont to make
free with the names and political reputation of his fellow-club-
blata. They do not appear to have reliahed this sort of liberty;
but yet, to save appearances, pass an act of indemnity as to the
culprits. To some the Cheshire plan of referm went tot) far ;
' others dissented from the declaration, as too' radical ; others
thought it good, as far es it went ; so far they were willing to
go with it, but declared themselves both willing and anxious to
go 'much further, though how much, whether as far into mazes
of political metaphysics as the candle of' Jeremy Bentham
would lead them, or as far in political uproar and overturn as
the anarchical torches of Hunt and Cobbet might light the way
to, we were not informed.' To those dissentions another has
retreat from the purlieus of whiggism, or,
been added, and the house of Eaton appears .to be beating a
at least, of the wing-
of the Cheshire Club. We inserted the letter of Lord
ii.elgrave to the Secretary ; in which his Lordship professes not
to be " a sanguine reformer," and thinks " a recurrence to
triennial parliamen La one of the most, doubtful experiments:"
he further objects to "abstract declarations Of opinion ;" and
then makes his .by felling them, that he hopes they may
agree at length upon some " practical System of reform." Vire
know not what thesedissentions may teach the IVlligs ; but this,
at least, they will teach the public, that, until they agree better
upon what is to tie done with 'this supposed sick and infirm con..
will cot trust them with it. Whilst one
another for trying the modern experi.
mein of injectiag the. lood of isst itfuotri p
eon
p oi
copious
u theirs,
bleeding
et'
itihnegyt
some animal, say of a calf, into
the languid veins ; a' third for amputating a kg ; and some des-
perste reformer hints that even the head is a useless encum.
I branee, we may at least say, " Gentlemen, first make up your

own minis as to the mode ortreatmeot,:and then we will judge
of it ; but we must be excused from taking a leap in the dark."
We do not know whether it was intended by his'Lordship or
not, but a more severely sarcastic note could scarcely hive
b6n written. His Lordship is not a " sanguine reformer ;" he
very prudently, • therefore,' withdraws from • his hot-headed
neighbours. • He thinks triennial Parliaments would be one
of the most doubtful experiments. Of course, the advocates
for annual Parliaments in the club arc tacitly branded as
men advocating not a doubtful experiment, but one so cer-
tain in its result, that it becomes a point of character to
get out of their society. But the parting bite is the most
severe : his Lordship objects to " abstract declarations of
opinion," and wishes that the club may sober down to some
practical view of the subject of reform ;. but here his Lord-
ship pushes at the very soul and being of modern Whigs,
and he tells them, what is indeed very true, that they are
made up of abstractions and such like intangible and cloudy
vapours; that they are a sort of political spectres and hobgob-
lins, whose airy company he must now quit in search of sub-
stantial and practical men. His Lordship wishes them also to
become practical in their schemes ; but this is rather jeeringly
to demand that they should annihilate themselves for what is
left to a reformer, in the present day, but his abstractions ? He
builds up his abstract constitution; and all the matter which is
left for his thoughts, his speeches, and his pamphlets, is the dis-
crepancy whiCh exists bet Ween the constitution as it is, and the
constitution as it ought to be. Formerly he might assume some-
thing of a practical air, and tell us bow reform would end the
war and revive commerce, and make grass grow and corn sell;
but now, since we have peace without reform, and commerce
spreads her sail, and grass, grows, and corn sells quite inde-
pendent of it, the poor 11'hig haS nothing to fly to but his ab-
stractions, either to teed his own musings, or to arrange into a
speech for an anniversary dinner. Lord Belgrave surely knew
that; and it was, we confess, a little hard to advise the club to
strip themselves of their aerial essence, and, in a word, to cease
to be, neither by hemp, nor steel, nor lead, but by voluntary
dissolution and thaw.

SAVING ,BANKS.

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It is always satisfactory to us to have it in our
power to promote the interests of these useful
and excellent Institutions. With this view we
readily give publicity to the following case ;
which, in consequence of a discussion at a late
General Meeting of the Trustees of a neighbour.
ing Savings Bank, was submitted to the Attorney-
General—together with the satisfactory opinion
of that high public officer :
Case.—" A Saving Bank has deposited its. Funds in the
Bank of England—say to the amount of 10,000/. A forgery of
the names of certain of the Trustees is successfully committed
by one, or more of their Co-trustees, and a .sum, say of 5,000/. is
therefore feloniously drawn out of the Bank of England.—
Query. Are the Trustees generally or individually liable to be
called on to make good such sum so feloniously obtained, or
are they,, in other words, liable to be called on to make good
losses not arising from their own personal delinquency ?"
Opinion of the Attorney General.—" I am of opinion that the
Trustees are not liable either generally or individually, to make
good the sum drawn out of the Bank of England in the man-
'ner above mentioned.

(Signed) J. S. COPLEY.
" Lincoln's Inn, 22d Oct. 1824."

We are informed that the Savings' Bank in
this town was closed on Monday last, for three
weeks, for the purpose of making up the accounts
of interest to the 20th of this month, as required
by an Act passed last Session of Parliament, in-
stead of the Ist of February as heretofore.—
( Bury Gazette, Nov. 3.)