The Sun.
London, England, 1824-01-07 00:00:00

THE EVIDENCE.

John Beeson examined by Mr. Bo 1. LaND.—I am a Constable
at Watford. I apprehended Hunt and went with him for the
body. fie pointed it out. The body was concealed in a sack,
down to the knees. It was near Elstree. There was a rope
lying on the sack • it was about a yard long. There was a
stone fastened to the end of the rope. It was carried to the
Artichoke at Elstree.
Cross-examined by Mr. ANDREWS.—The pond is about a
quarter of a mile from Elstree, and on the right hand of the
road. To the left there is a finger post, directing to Battler's
Green. There are four ways. If a man ignorent of the road
were going to Probert's he inst mistake his way there. If by
mistake a person went from that place on the, road to Radcliff;
he would, by turning down the lane, get again on the road to
Probert's cottage ; the roads there are very narrow and bad, and
must he travelled slowly.
By Mr. THESSIGER, for Hunt—Pour of us, besides the
coachman, went for the body. The place where we found it is
-two milesfrom Probert's
said cottage; we went altogether to the
brook and searched about five minutes, a es, and found the body in.
repeatedilot the iid
body
h :
the deepest part ; it was the ueepest near the hedge ; no one
or two men could have placed, it there without .g oin into the
water. Witness, on the question
thought if two men laid hold of the body, they might ha*
swung it to the place it was found, one could
was five yards from the edge of the pond.
Re-examined—Pheard Hunt point out the pond before we
searched it; the body might have been placed where we found
it by throwing the stone and rope over the pond, and then
dragged the hotly in.
By the Court—T e pond. is about as large as the Court-house;
all the rope was twisted round the body in a careless manner
when it was taken out of the pond ; there was a handkerchief
full of stones in the sack.
Robert Field, examined by Mr. BitonErtics.—l keep the
Artichoke Public-house, on the road to Elstree ; a dead body
was brought to my house on the 30th of Oct. ; I saw it drawn
out of the pond; it was in a sack fastened with a cord; there
were two or three yards of the cord hanging when the body
was drawn out • the same body was afterwards shown to Mr.
Rixworthy andßichard Weare.
John Upson, examined by Mr. Bot.Laten—l am a Bow.
street officer. I was at Watford when the prisoners were ex-
amined on the 29th and 30th of October ; on -the 30th I had a
conversation with Thurtell; I was 'one of those who went
for the body ; we got a rake and fish fork, and searched
the pond without success ; a man 'got a ladder and was
searching the pond ; Hunt said it was nearer the edge ; it was
found there.
William Rixworthy examined by Mr. BRODE ItICK.-1 was
intimately acquainted with the late Mr. Weare. I save the
body dead at the Artichoke on the clay, of the Inquest, the 30th
or 31st of October. lam positive that it was his body.
Coss-examined by lir• knew the body as
well as if he was alive. I never expressed a doubt of it.
Richard Weare examined by Mr. BOLLAND.—I saw a dead
body at the Artichoke, near Elstree, on or about the 30th of
October. It was the body of my brother William.
Thomas Abel Ward examined by Mr. BRODERICK.—I am
a surgeon at Watford, and exurnined a dead body at the Arti-
, choke on the day of the Inquest. There were several marks of
violence about the left temple, which corresponded with the
muzzle of a pistol then produced; the wounds penetrated . the
scull; several portions of the bone were broken and driven
into the substance of the brain ; the wounds had every appear-
ance of being produced by the pistol; they would have caused
immediate death. A wound on the right cheek had the appear-
ance of being from a gun or pistol shot; it would not have
caused death ; there was a lacetated wound on each side of the
neck, given by a knife or sharp instrument ; the jugular vein
was divided on the left side. . _ _

Cross-examined by Mr. PLAT T.—Th2 impression of the
pistol was made on-parts of the skull that were not fractured.
More than one of the bones of the skull was broken, it might
have been done by a larger instrument than a piStol. The
wound was an inch and a quarter long, by seven-eighths wide.
Witness here produced the fractured bones taken out of the
wound. A great haemorrhage must have taken place, if the
wound wasinflicted on a living person. It is impossible to say
whether the wound was inflictedtefore or after death.. After
the body was in the water three or four days 'I could not judge.
The body was quite fresh. Had I known the individual in his
life-time, I should have recognized his body.
Richard Ruthven examined by Mr. BoLLAND.—Is a Bow-
street Officer; apprehended Thurtell on the Wednesday after
the murder, at Tetsall's. He found in his coat pocket a pistol,
which was not loaded, and a key and a knife in his waistcoat
pocket.—(These articles he produced to the Court.)—He also
found a muslin hankerchief, close to his bedside. There were
marks of blood on it. ,He also found a shirt, with marks of
blood on the collar. A black kerseymere waistcoat was found
on the prisoner, the pocket of which was marked with blood ;
and a black coat, with stains of blood on the left shoulder and
on both cuff's. A hat, spotted with blood, was alsofound.—
Witness apprehended Hunt at 98, King-street, Golden-square,
on the same day. On the following day he examined litint's
lodgings, where lie found a double-barrelled gun in a case, and
under his bed a sponp;e, which was then wet. A carpet bag
was also foUnd. •To The best of his recollection it was empty.
He found a Pair of breeches, a pair of gloves, a pair of leggings,

one pair of half boots, and one pair of Hessians ; he found a
cord, two waistcoats, three shirts, two coloured handkerchiefs
—two of the shirts were marked, one " W. W. No. 1," the
other " W. ;" one neckcloth, one collar, four pair of socks, a
nightcap, a clothes-brush, a powder-flask, a turn-screw, a bul-
let-mould, and a comb. He had had these things ever since in
his possession. _ _ _

Cross-examined by Mr. CHITTY—When he arrested Thur-
tell his door was unlocked, so that any one could have had
access to it. His drawers were unlocked, so that any servant
or person about might have got at the articles they contained ;
but most of the articles now produced were tied up in a hand-
kerchief. There were several inmates in the house. Thurtell
was in bed when he entered ; there was another person in the
room in a second bed. Thurtell offered no resistance whatever.

Cross-examined by Mr."fiIESSIGER.—Did not search Hunt's
place on the 29th, when he arrested him ; Hunt's wife was not
at home when he was arrested.

Henry Simmons examined by Mr. BnoDERICK.—Was the
constable of Watford; he got a pistol from Charles Nicholls,
Of Batler's Green , it was spotted with blood, the pan down ;
there was hair about it, when it came into his possession ; the
tow in the muzzle was then much the same as now; he also got
a small knife at the same time floin Mr. Nicholls. The wit-
ness produced these, with a red shawl handkerchief ; the last
he received from Dr. Pitcock, the younger, on the 31st Octo-
ber. 'lie had got also a curb watchgold chain, and a small red
trunk, which he received from Mrs. Probert on the 15th Nov.
He received a sack from Robert Field, the landlord of the Ar-
tichoke; he received another sack on the 24th November from.
Williain He received no other sack from Mr. Field;
he also received on the 31st of October part of a coat from Ro-
bert Bates ; he. eceived three several articles from.the.persons
he had mentioned in the presence of the Magistrates ; he also
received a spade on the 18th of November; and a handkerchief
from Mr. George Jones.
Probert was now called in, and was placed in the witness box.
He looked somewhat alarmed ; but was less flurried than might
have been expected. •
Examined by, Mr. GURNEY.—I occupied a cottage in Gill's
Hill-lane ; I occupied it for six months before last October ;
my family consisted of Mrs. Probert, and her two sisters,. the
Misses Noyes, a part of the summer ; a servant maid, and a
boy. In October only,one of the Misses Noyes was there ; I
had also two of Thomas Thurtell's children, but none of my
own at that time ; the children mentioned belonged to the pn-
soner's brother : I have been for some time past acquainted
with the prisoner J. Thurtell ; he had been down there with
me often ; he had been about there sporting with me ; he knew
the road to my cottage very well ; Gill's Hill-lane turns out of
the St. Alban's high road at Ratlet ; the regular way to town
would be from my cottage to Ratlet ; the usual way which. I
and -Thurtell travelled was by Ratlet ; my cottage was four-
teen miles and 'a quarter from Tyburn-turnpike ; the pri-
soner and I were together the latter end of October, at Tet-
sail's, the Coach and, Horses, in Conduit-street ; his brother
was there too ; I certainly did not procure him a lodging
there; I met them there on Friday the 24th, when I dined
with John Thurtell and Hunt. Thomas Thurtell was there,
and •Noyes. After dinner, Thurtell said something about
Money. Three or four days previous to the 24th, I borrowed
10/. of John Thurtell ; I was to let him have it back on the
Thursday or Friday ; on the Thursday I saw him at Mr. Tet-
sail's ; he asked me if' I had got the 10/. ; I said I had not, as
I had not been able to collect any money. He said, " I shall
want it to-day or to-morow, or it will be 2001. or 300/, out of
my pocket; but," said he, " if you will let me have it to-mor
row it will answer the same purpose." On the next day, I
paid him 51. ; 1 borrowed that Si. of Mr. Tetsall; that was after
dinner on the Friday. Ile then said," I think I will go down ,to
your cottage if you are going down." H e added,;" You can drive
Hunt, can't you ?" I said, " Yes." He said; " he had a friend
to meet him at Steven's, after five o'clock, and he shall go down
to. He then said of that friend," If I have an opportunity, I
mean to do him, for he is a man who has robbed me of several
hundreds. He said, I have shown Hunt where to stop, for I
shall want him about a mile and a half beyond Elsteee. If you
are fearful that you shall not go down, give Hunt a pound."
This I did ; he said to Hunt, " Here, Joe, that is for you to
hire a horse with. If Probert don't come, you hire a horsg, yo
know where to stop for me. I can't say that Hunt made any
answer. I.gave him twenty
,shillings in silver. Thurtell then
it was a little after five o'clock when Hunt
left the Coach. y
Horses almost immediately. He hired a
horse and dhiemha;ise, a grey horse, with a whitish face. Hunt
my home; / took Hunt with me.
,When I came to the end of
left the Coach and Horses ; I afterwards left it to go to
to take with us for a supper. At the end of Ox-
said " this is the place. "—[Here the Court was
Oxford-street, Hunt got out of the gig to buy a loin of pork at
my request,
Ox-
ford-street, he
interrupted by a noise from the crowd, which made it impos-
sible to hear the witness idistinctly.l—ln our way down we
overtook Thurtell about four miles out of town ; Hunt said,
Drive by and take no notice ;" Hunt afterwards said, " It is
all right, Jack has got him." There were two in Thurtell's
gig—Thurtell and another man, who was unknown tome. I
passed them and said nothing. I stopped at a house called the
Baldfaced Stag, about seven miles out of town, and about
two miles short of Edgware. I had not stopped before at any
other place. It was then perhaps about a quarter to seven,
When Hunt said, " It is all right, Jack has got him." I asked
who it was that was in the chaise with Thurtell ; Hunt said,
you are not to know his name, yon know nothing of him. The
Baldfaced StagiS 'a house which I have supplied with spirits.
in which I am a dealer, I went in and stopped about twenty
minutes ; Hunt would not go in, as he said he had not return-
ed some horse-cloths he had formerly borrowed there; I stop-
Ind about 20 minutes. I then drove on and overtook Hunt
near Edgware. I then took him into the gig again ; and I
next stopped at Mr. Clark's, the Red Lion, in Edgware; we.
both went into the bar, and took a glass of brandy and water;
we stopped there about 10 minutes. We then went furtheron to
a house. where I bought a bushel of corn for my horse, which
was put in a sack. When we started from this place Hunt said
" I cannot think where Thurtell is ; he cannot have passed us."
We had only just stepped into the bar. I then drove on to Els-
tree to the Artichoke, kept by Mr. Field. I, should think Igot
there about twenty minutes before eight. Neither of us got
out ; we took four or five glasses of brandy and water sitting
in the gig, and waiting for the express purpose of letting John
Thurtell come up with us. At last we heard a gig coming.—
We then started. I think we had stopped at the Artichoke
for more than three quarters of an hour. We then .went
about a mile and a. half without stopping.; we were near •
Mr. Phillimore's. Lodge, when Hunt got out to wait for John
Thurtell: he said, " am going to wait here for Thurtell ;"
I drove on through Ratlet, towards my own cottage ; .1 left
Hunt behind. When I came near my cottage, I met John
Thurtell short of it about one hundred yards ; nobody was
with him; he called out "Halloo! where is Hunt ?" I told him
I had left Hunt waiting near Phillimore's Lodge for him ; John
Thurtell replied to that, " 0, I don't want him now, for I have
done the trick." He said he had killed-his friend *hom he had
brought down with him, and ridded the country of .a villain
who had robbed him of three or four hundred pounds. I said
" Good God ! I hope you have not killed the man." He said,
" It is of no consequence to you ; you don't know him, and
never saw him. Go. back and Seek Hunt, for you know
where you left him." I returned to • the place where 1 left
Hunt, and found him there. Thurtell did not walk down with
me, nor did he tell me what he meant to do. I took Hunt into
the gig, and said to him, " Thurtell is at my house, and he sayS
he has killed his friend ;" and Hunt said, " Thank God I am
out of it ! then be has done it without me." Hunt then said,
" I can't think where the devil he passed us ; I never saw him
pass, -and I am glad that I am out of it." He said at the place
where I had set him down, " this is the place where we were
to have done it." I asked him who the man was, and Hunt
said, " You don't know him,'and I shall not tell you his name."
He said it was a man who had robbed Jack of several hundred
pounds, and they meant to have it back again." By this time I
was near my own door ; .John Thurtell stood by it ; he drove
through the' gate. Hunt then said, " Thurtell, where could you
pass me ?" Thurtell said, " It don't matter where 1 passed
you—l have done the trick; I have done it." Thurtell after-
wards said, " What the devil did you let Probert stop drinking
at his d—d public-houses for, when yOu knew what was to be
done." Hunt said, " I made sure that you was behind, or else
. I should not have stopped." I took the loin of pork, and gave
it to the servant girl to cook. I went intoalie parlour and in-
troduced Hunt to Mrs. Prohert ;. he had never been there be-
fore; John Thurtell followed; we had stopped in the yard be-
fore.we entered ; we three went out of the house . before supper ;
we first went to the. stable, and Thurtell said, ".Now I will
take you where he lies :," I went back into the parlour, and
said I was going to ask Mr. Nicholls for a day's shooting ; I
desired them not to get supper ready till we came back ; be-
fore this, Thurtell had taken from his gig a sack and cord ; he
then went down the lane, and I carried a lantern ; John Thur-
tell said, as we were going along, " I began to think that you
would not come." Hunt answered, I should have been in time,
but I made sure that you were behind ;" Thurtell said,." Pro-
bert, when you get a little further on, it is beyond the second
turning." When we came to the second turning, he said, "a
little further on ;" we went further on, and he stopped, and
said, " this is the place;" we then began to look for his pistol
and knife, but neither of us found them; we then got over the
hedge, and found the body lying there ; the head was wrapped
up in part of the red shawl which had been worn by the deceas-
ed ; Thurtell then began to search the pockets of the dead man ;
he took from them a pocket-book and three 5/. notes, which
the pocket-book contained, a memorandum-book and some
silver. He took no watch or purse at that time. Thurtell said
when he had taken the pocket-book and memorandum-book,
" These are all that he has got ; for I took his watch and purse
away when I killed him." We put the body into a sack • we
put the head in first ; the sack came down to about the knees
of the deceased ; we tied the sack round with a cord ; it was

r the sack which Thurtell had taken from the gig ; I cannot say
whether the cord had been in the sack ; we left the dead body
' then • we went towards home. Thurtell said, " When
first shot him, he then jumped out of the gig, and ran like the
devil, singing out he would return all he had won of me if I
would only spare his life." I have heard Thurtell speak of
having been in the sea service : cannot say whether " singing
out" is a sea phrase or not. Thurtell said, when Mr. Weare
had got out of thegig, " I jumped out also and ran after him
I got him down, and began to cut his throat, as I thought.,
about the jugular vein, but could not stop his singing out ;
then jammed the pistol into his head, and gave it a turn round,.
and then I knew that I had done for him." Thurtell also said
to Hunt, "Joe, you ought to have been with me; I thought
at one time he would have got the better of me ; these pistolse
I thought, would have settled the business at once, but they are
like squibs, and are of no use." Hunt said, " I should have
been here, but that I made sure of your being behind." He
added, " I thought one of theae pistols would have killed him.
dead ; but, however, you had plenty of tools." We then re-
turned to my cottage and supped. In the course of the evening
I saw a gold watch and chain ; Thurtell produced them ; It
was a very handsome watch ; I think it was in a double case,
but cannot answer for that; a gold chain was attached to it ;
.the. chain now produced is a similar one ; he took off the chain,
and gave it to Mrs. Probert, saying, it was more fit for a lady
than for a gentleman. Mrs. Probert accepted it. The watch
he put into his waistcoat pocket with the seal. There was but
one spare bed in the cottage, which was occupied by Thomas-
Thurtell's children; that bed being so occupied, there was in.
fact no spare bed. Mrs. Probert asked Thurtell, if he wished
to go to bed, as if he did, and chose to sleep with the child-
ren, there was a bed for him ? Thurtell said, he was much,
obliged to Mrs. Probert, but could do very well with the-
sofa. Hunt sang two or three songs ; he was a singer by
business. Mrs. Probert and Miss Noyes then went to bed...
He thought they went to bed about 12 o'clock. 'When Mrs,
Probert and Miss Noyes had retired, Thurtell took out the -
•poeket book, the purse, and the memorandum book; there
were some sovereigns in the purse. He gave me and Hunt 6!.
each ; he gave me 51. and a sovereign. He said when he gave-
them, "'That is your share of the blunt." There were several'
papers in the memorandum and pocket books ; these with the-
purse and books were burned. The carpet bag was then opened-
Thurtell said that that bag belonged to the man (he did not:
name him,) whom he had shot. The bag contained wearing
apparel and shooting materials. All were taken out and exa'.-
mused, and put in again, with the exception of two or three silk
handkerchiefs which were left out. There was a backgammon.
board, dice, and cards.—[Witness here identified those articles
which had been produced.]—There was besides a double-bar-
reled gun ; it was taken out of the case. The carpet bag and the
backgammon board were taken to town next day by Thurtell
and Hunt in a gig. After examining the things it was proposed
to have some brandy and water, and Thurtell said, " I mean to
have Barber Beaumont and Woods." Barber Beaumont is
connected with an insurance office in London. Woods is a
young man in London, who keeps company with Mrs. Pro-
bert's sister, Miss Noyes. There might have been:more said,
but Ido not remember that there was. I recollect that Thur-
tell said, " Joe, we must now go out and fetch the body, and
put it into the pond." I said, 44 By God you shall not put it
in the pond (the pond in my garden), for it will be the cattle of
my ruin." Thurtell said, " Had it not been for Hunt he (Mr.
Weare) would not have been here, for I should have killed
him in the other lane, and then returned to town to inquire of
his friends why he had not joined me." We went out. At
first only Thurtell and Hunt went out ; they came back to
me : Thurtell said, " Probert, it is too heavy—we cannot
carry it." They had been gone out about a quarter of an
hour. Thurtell then said, " Will you go along with me, Pro-
bert ? 1 will put a bridle on my horse and fetch him." I went
out with him, and Thurtell and I went to the stable, leaving
Hunt near the gate. We took Thurtell's horse, and went to
the body ; Hunt waited about, and did not go to the place.—
We put the body on the horse andbrought it into Mr. IVardle's•
field, near my garden gate. Hunt then took the horse to the
stable and came back to us in the garden, and we dragged the
put a few
stones
throughs
into
the thesae
k, gardenand thdroewwn
the to
ht bode
ypionntdo,
the
ewpr
eond. I do
not know where the lanthorn was then ; the feet were then
partly above the water;. Thurtell threw a cord over the feet,
and I then dragged the body to the middle of the pond; we
all three went back to my cottage ; I went to bed almost im-
mediately ; I found my wife up. Next morning I came dawn
about nine o'clock ; Hunt told me what he and Thurtell had
been doing ; he said they had been down the lane to look for
the pistol and knife, but neither had been found. They asked
me to go. and look for them ; 1 said, I would do so, but did
'not ; the reason I did not look for them was this :—When
got into the lane, 1 found some men at work there; so I took
no notice and went on ; after breakfast they went away in
Thurtell's gig, taking the articles before mentioned with them.
On Sunday they came down again with Thomas Thurtell and
a man named T. Noyes ; Hunt and Thos. Thurtell came in a
gig, and John Thurtell and Noyes walked down. Hunt
brought a bundle of clothes, a spade, and a newspaper; the
snade was to bury the deceased; Hunt got out, and T. Thur-
tell went back to take up John Thurtell and Noyes. 'When he
came Hunt was very dirty ; he asked -to go up stairs and change
his dress ; he did so, and came down well dressed in almost
new clothes; Hunt told me those clothes had belonged to the-
deceased. Hunt brought down a spade with him ; he told me
so, and. that he had thrown it over the hedge into my garden
he said he had brought it to bury the deceased. After J. Thurtell
arrived he and I walked round the pond ; Thurtell asked if the
body had rose; I said " No ;" Thurtell replied, 44
No, I am told
it will lie there for a month." In the afternoon a person of the
name of Heward called. I went with him to Mr. Nicholls'.
After my return I- told Hunt and Thurtell what Nicholls had
said. Mr. Nicholls had informed me that some one had fired
a gun off in the lane on Friday night about nine o'clock, and
cries of murder were heard. He (Mr. Nicholls) said, " I sup-
pose some of your friends were trying to frighten each other.
On nw telling this, Thurtell said, then lam baked." I said,
"I think it is a bad job. lam very sorry it happened here,
and am afraid it will be my ruin." Thurtell said, "0, never
mind; Probert, they can do nothing to' you." " I said, " the
' body must be taken out of my pond." Thurtell said, 44
will tell you what 111 do, Prohert. 'When You are all gone
to bed, I and Joe will take the body out and bury it." I
said this will be as bad as leaving in my pond, if you bury it in
my garden. John Thurtell then said, 44 I will bury him
where you nor any one else shall find him." We were then
going into the parlOur, when Hunt said, "they could do no-
thing with you Probert, or me either, as we were not present
at the murder." Thurtell and-Mint sat up all night ; I went
to bed; Noyes and Thomas Thurtell went also to bed.—
Thomas Thurtell slept with his children ; I cannot tell where
Noyes slept; in the morning they told me that they had intended
to bury the body in the garden, but the dogs had been barking
all night, and they therefore thought some one was about the
grounds, and had done nothing with it; Thurtell said, they
would come down in the night and take him (the deceased)
right away, and that would be better for them altogether ; the
next day, Thomas Thurtell, Hunt, and my boy left my cot-
tage to go to London ; I had no use at all for the boi, in Lon-
don ; he was taken away that he might not be at the cottage to
answer questions. At night, John Thurtell and Hunt came
down again in a gig; they supped with me; I and John Thur-
tell went to the stable, leaving Hunt with Mrs Probert ; Thurfell
said, " Let us go and get the dead body, and leave Hunt talk-
ing with Mrs. Probert, and then she will not suspect anything."
Thurtell took nothing out of his gig at that time. We went
to the 'pond, and took the body of the deceased out; we took
him out of the sack, and cut the clothes off; when the clothes
were taken off, we left the body naked on the green by the
side of the pond, and then returned to the parlour, and told
Hunt that the horse and gig were ready. They were not, how-
ever ready at that time. We. then went to the stable, and ,John
Thurtell took out of his gig a new sack and cord. We assisted
him in putting the body into the new sack, and then carried it,,
all three of us, to the garden gate. We left Hunt with the
body ; and I flung the clothes into the field. The horse was
then put to. Thurtell said, we had better leave the clothes, as
there was no room for them in the gig. 'We put the body into,
the gig. They wanted me to assist them further in settling it
in the gig, but I would not. Some of the clothes which had
been cut from Mr. Weare I burned ; some I disposed of ire
other ways, as they had wished that I should. I was taken into
custody on the Tuesday, the day after they had left my house.
Cross-examined by Mr. ANDREWS.—i was apprehended by
.Ruthven at Mr. Nicholls'. The confession which I formerly
Insole was made of my own accord, and not in consequence of
any offer of pardon. Do not recollect having been asked to
'turn King's evidence. Do not remember that as 'soon as Huut
had Made his confession I talked to a person about becoming a
witness; I do not know that any thing of the kind occurred. I
knew the story which has been told by Hunt; at least I have
seen it in the public prints ; I did not express my wish to be-
come a witness for the Crown ; I do not know that I expressed
any wish of the kind ; I do not know that I had heard any
thing on the subject till Mr. Wilson brought me the intelligence
that I was to go before the Grand Jury ; I did not know what
I was to be done to, but expected to be put on my trial; I have
not seen Mr. Probert since I left my house. I was told by Mr.
Williams that one would he admitted a witness for the Crown.
I had no solicitor last October. Mr. Noel, lam sorry to say,
'was formerly my solicitor; he was so from 1819.
Q. You knew that there was a man going to your house who
was to be murdered ?—A. I did not believed it.

Q. You knew it when you saw the murdered man !—A. Yes•
Q. You let the man remain in your house who had commit-
ted the act ?—A. Yes, but I should not, had I not been is
liquor.
Q. We shall see that—you allowed him to remain the next
morning, rbelieve ?—A. Yes.
Q. Had you told Mrs. Probezt any thing about