The Sun.
London, England, 1841-02-17 00:00:00

What did they do P—They stood upright.
What did they do when they got up ?—They
walked a few paces from each other in different
directions.
Back to back ?—Yes. -;
How far P—Each about five or six paces.
What did they do when they stopped ?—Each
beckoned to another gentleman standing at a
distance.
What followed next ?—These gentlemen came
towards them.
Did they come up to them?—Yes.
One came up to eash of the others ?—Yes.
What was •done then ?—Each of the gentle-
men beckoned to took a pistol.
You saw pistols given to them 1-1 did.
When the pistols were given to them where did
the gentlemen who had been kneeling down go
to ?—They stood a little to the right of them.
What happened then ?—The gentlemen turned
side face and apparently fired at each other.
Did you see the pistols at the time ?—I did.
Was it a sunshiny day—did you see them
glistening 7—l did.
Did you give information to your husband ?—I
did.
When was it that you gave the iaformation to
your husband—before the pistols were. fired 7
Ilelbre the pistols were fired .I thought they were
about a duel, and after one of the pistols were
fired I called to him just outside the gate.
When was the time you called for your hus-
band 7—When he was advancing towards them.
What happened after you saw the first shots
fired 7—l saw one gentleman advance towards
the other gentleman, and take a second pistol as
soon as the first pistol was fired.
Did they both fire a second time ?—They did.
Were they standing in the same place
when they fired the second time, as when they
fired the first time 7—Yes, Sir.
Did you see your husband go up to them 1--
I did.

Did you afterwards see all the party come to
the mill together?—No, Sir; I saw two come first.
Which way did they go ?—The gentlenian
that was wounded and the one that. was attend-
ing him.
How did you know he was wounded ?—I saw
them unfastening his clothes.
Where was he when you saw them unfastening
his clothes ?—Standing where he was.
What—when the shots were fired?—Yes.
Several Peeis here stated that they could not
hear a single tit iwer that the witness gave, and
the short- hand writer read several of the pre-
ceding., questions and answers.
Are you quite sure the gentleman whose
clothes you saw unfastened was one of the gen-
tlemen who fired the pistols ?—Yes, sir.
Now when this gentleman and another came
to-the house did you give them anything, ,did
they ask for anything ?—I was not in the house
when they came first.
Did you afterwards give them anything?—l
I gave them a basin of water and a towel.
Did they go into a room together ?—They did.
Did, the other gentlemen afterwards come to
the house ?—They came into the yard.
Did your husband come with them 2—He
came with one the other two came a little be-
fore him.
Who was the gentleman he came with ?—I
was told it was Lord Cardigan'.
See if you ,see him before you.—That is
the gentleman (pointing to the prisoner).
Cross-examined by Sir W. FOLLETT—I am not
quite sure whether I understood you correctly.
Where were you during the transaction ?—On
the stage.
During the whole of time ?—During the whole
of the time.
When did you first go upon the stage in the
morning?—l went when I was called.
Who called you ?—My little boy.
Do you know what time it was at all ?—About
five o'clock in the afternoon.
Did you remain on the stage during the whole
time the wounded gentleman came to your
house ?—I did.
Now, observe—you and all the witnesses be-
fore you have said that the distance from your
house to the spot was two hundred and twenty
yards, has that been measured?—l think it has.
Could you at the distance of two hundred and
twenty yards see the persons knocking the pis-
tols ?—Yes.
What do you suppose to be the distance from
which you oare standing now to the end of the
House ?—I should not have thought it was more
than one hundred yards when I first saw them.
You are speaking now of Wimbledon Com-
mon. But you say it is two hundred and twenty
yards 2—l have been told so.
Well, at a distance of two hundred and twenty
yards, could you see persons kneeling and
knocking pistols 2-Yes, I could.
Could you distinguish their features ?—I could
see their countenances.
Can you distinguish the countenances or fea-
tures of any gentleman standing at the bottom of
this House P—l could see whether they were red
or pale.
Can you see whether the gentlemen at the
bottom of this House are red. or pale 1—
(Laughter.)—Yes, I can.—(Renewed laughter.)
Are you quite sure of that? Can you distinguish
whether the gentlemen are red or pale, at the
bottom of the House ?—I can see better on the
Common, Sir, - where I am more practised.
You can see better in some places than an-
other, can you ?—Yes, Sir; I have been a good
many years on the Common.
Therefore that's the place where you see best,
is it?—(Laughter.)—lt is.
Now on the Common where you see best can
you distinguish the features of gentlemen 200
yards off, and whether their faces are red or pale?
—They looked to have red faceS in the sun.
What, all the gentlemen had red faces, had
they ?—(Laughter.)—No, not all.
How many had red faces—can you tell ?
(No answer.)
Now, pray who has been telling you this story,
or who has been examining you—have yoit never
been examined as a witness?---No.
Were you not before the Grand Jury ?—No.
You were not ?—Oh yes, I was.
You were ?—Yes.
Who desired you to go before the Grand Jury ?
—I was sulycen.aed.
Who subpoenaed you, do you know ?—I forget.
Do you know who was conducting the prose-
cution at the time ?—I believe Mr. Hobler was
the gentleman.
Was it he that subpoenaed you ?—(No answer.)
When did he subpcena you ?—The subpoena
was brought to my house.
And you then went before the Grand Jury?---
Yes.

Were you not examined by any one, before
you went before the Grand Jury ?—No.
By no body ?—No, Sir.
You are quite certain, are you; recollect your-
self? Were you examined by no one, before you
went before the Grand Jury ?—No, Sir.
No one at all ?—No.
Then, do I understand you to state. that the
first time you gave any account of what you saw
was before the Grand Jury ?—Yes.
Are you certain of that ?—Yes.
Were you not examined before the Magistrates?
—No, Sir, I was not.
Were you examined more than once before the
Grand Jury ?—I went in twice or three times in
one clay.
Giving the same account over and over again,
I suppose 2—Answering questions they might ask.
Have you been examined at the Borne-office
by Mr. Vizard ?—I have.

Were you subpcenaed-by him to attend here?
—I had notice.
Had you no subpoena?—No.
Were you all examined together ?—Separately.
In the presence of one another ?—No, Sir.
You were called in seVarately, were you ?—Yes.
Then what you stated was taken down in writ-
ing, was it ?-1. don't know that it was.
Was there no one there writing at the time ?
There was a gentleman writing.
That was last week, I believe, some time ?
Last Saturday.
Now to come back to the transaction on the
Common. You say you went upon the stage, as
you were ordered. Who ordered you ?—My son
called me.
Did not your husband give you directions ?
He sent the boy.
Was your husband on the stage when you
went there ?—He was.
Were you' told to watch ?—Yes.
And to give notice to him was told to
stand and see what the gentlemen were doing.
Were you told to give notice to him as soon as
you discovered they were going to fight a duel?
—He left me there.

You must. answer my question—were you told
to give notice to him as soon as you discovered
they were going to fight a duel?--He told me to
watch what they were about, and he wouldbe there
again directly.
Then he did not give you notice that they
were going to fight a duel ?—No.
Did you give him any notice at all ?—I callect
to him.
urn
If I understand you, you did not call
on 1 •
till after the shot was fired. Is tl
went from me directly he tot;) —me netat suspected
what was going on, -•
(The last an7wers of this witness not having
been t-eard in the House, the short-hand writer's
notes were referred to.)
Did-not you call to him until after the shots
were fired?—No, I did not.

MORNING EDITION.

Did you say anything- before the Pistels_ wcve
fired?—Yes; i s Lid 1 thought I saw piaio'•e he
Did you speak to your husband befor
went down ?—No, I did not. •am t
Did you, after he was gone down, call to lu
all when the shots were fired ?--Yes. After the
first shot was fired I called to him.
After the first shot ?—Yes.
Were they close together?—Very nearly. e _
'p '. sVt oeliTo r goof° tdar. o ?DI heardyou
11
e
What do you suppose was the interval betw.
.0_
the firing of the first pistol and the second f"--
It was a short time. What
I .understand you heard two shots. each
was, the diatanee? Were they close on
..
w'''
other ?—I heard the first when my husband
on the bridge. it ill
ow soon afer was the ther fired, was
theH course of at o
minute -or so ?—lt was just after
the second firing had taken. place. istois
Do I understaad you tO sayyou saw the p
in the hands of the gentlemen at that distanc`'•
—Yes, I dd.
l'is-
And they i
fired directly?—Yes, when the
/
tols were put into their hands. fore •
Have
before
you know any of these gentlemen be
—No.
here onth Yes/
Did you see him before the Magistrates
--
I did. .
gentleulen
Have you seen any of the other
before that day?--No, I have not. here
aeNt'edrayse?—enNticz
iNielo.ebil..e Lord sittiug
The cross-examination of the witnesses
closed. (10°
Mr. WADDINGTON observed that he had
further questions to put. - - fora Of
The proceedings were here suspended re,
minutes, during which the Earl of Cardigan.
tired from the bar. ta.the
On the return of the Earl of Cardigan
bar, ' ' 'll d slid
Sir :Tames Eglinton Anderson was ca- e
examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL•
What is your profession? Ander-
'The LORD HIGH STEWARD—Sir Jam it
aaeta
son, from what has passed elsewhere I ti'
1- 'a and to
my duty to inform you that you are no. -.° ilate
answer any question that may tend to aull '
yonrsele.
The ATTORNEY-GENEIRAL What is
your Pr'Y'
ession ?--=A physician. _atoll-
Where do you live ?—ln New
Tu.% Burlailaa
street. Icett.
Are you acquainted with Captain
.xnust decline answering that uestion. latli
Were you at Wimbledon Cqommon on titlestioa
of September last ?—I must &aline that (1
al Were
' IOS
Were( youu on that day called on to a tteldealiae
gentleman who was wounded ?-1 mil`
that an.—(Laughter.) 'eft hy
e,
•
Can you tell me where Captain Tuc! %e•
—I must decline answering that quest i0n'00?-•••
Has Captain Tuckett y house in I 4°•l,ittef.)
I decline answering that question.--0 47-4-'7'
_A
sWhen did you last see Captain Tuc ki !tcle'ciiiie"
ir. W. FOLLETT—The witness having t 1404
answering questions, I apprehend it is 00 ritie?
in the Attorney-General to put circa Oils •
tions to him.
that tamp . Tzac3,la, e
tendt t
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL--YOU CO '';'" 0. Or
1 ine ,1,1,-
swering any question whatever respe' '4ll7oOstioll
?
toI declinecriminate
myself: ax y. 9
/WO'
_ And you consider any question respe4 ',,- nts'aihiY.'
Tuckett may tend to criminate you?---.. .-1:1,.-it v. A
The witness was then desired to wit; '7.,,
Johnniill
Busain Was then called an ° - , 1
by the .. A ..TTORNEY-GENERAL. page'
Are you an Inspector in her Mai( St Y'l•s' i i of
—I am, Sir.
Where were you on the evening e
September?—On duty at the scat erne-h°
, :it
Wandsworth. , ,01.
Did any person arrive at the sty lioa-in'
~ to
that time ?—There did. „ 11r a
Who were they ?—A post- chaise cat''
I'~•, ~ tta
tile
the door at a quarter to six in the 010',lital.L;•
two gentlemen got out. One r apalell it sirill,
door. I went to the door and pel ve lire" .sine'
his Lordship. I bowed and ask( :cl. Ids V, ,
there.
~., ,s, 3,„11,11'
Was that the Earl of Cardigan ?-
cello, ga'e
there was another gentleman wia;h h ink 1- °'
f
c. -
the name of Capt. John Douglr.s. • . ,
~
Was Dann, the Wimbledon 'miller, Or'
did net see him; I bowed to pis L0r(141,11,13i ,e 2/
N Had you seen the Earl of Cai
.-digan "'" °I
1
If the 102:eo• at
No, but I saw he was a gentle-re An. ,a i 91-1
a prisonedri,dl3broeuliseavye...'
Did he say anything toyou ?.- —lle Sai'" It. 0
' ". I'l
What ?—I sa'id cc Indeed'
what account?"
WhaantddihdisP e li'°
hisl..4ordLS°llll(ll S lap say - ?-- - void ae
open,saiid " I have been fighting ea
duel,il all- -1.- lit•a,
_h t my man, but not .seriously , I beliertis 11
'`,/r-'
a mere scratch across the back," anut.•;",isal l';-.-.)
ship passed his hand across his back tfilt sal
1;1' j
) "!•-•alk' if • i TlllieaAti• t;11.11111;
(The witness passed his hand across 01`i '-u
His lordship also looked l sii°l%-ulel -All
over. _us ,
oeica!
said, " This gentleman also is a pm ' •
„I; -Lora
second, Captain Douglas." Are ;
pid you see anything nacre than ?- ,--",'"'„s ;LT,te
ship passed his hand behind him into in`s,,4; 'est
some cards fell upon the. floor - he li'res- 1 1•°:' el
ii the , 0
with one. When I saw the address,
stainth' 'f :ec
Cardigan, 11th Hussars," I allude{ ::
again, and said, ,c I hope
not
with c ap 0 1111 a;
nolds." The Noble Le rd td incli,) '
,r appear
,_ ht Not
and said, " Do you
think I would fig time
officer of my own ?" -soeat ola
The short-hand ;
wiatz,,T ske Ito `l'l a '` e
~ was a 01'110 1 el' answer. He read 't • Do you ,-,,here 14.
fight with an Inferior1'
officer /''- —l.l . k 00S
loud cries of ic at
o, ) A the ri . The Lord Hr . GIL STEWARD deS%reu 1)14
to repeat the question. tie tie tf,A *the
Witness—To the best of my e°'e "
l'' • One guy'
I ords) ' ' - ai- s
F reply was, when I _motto t o
name of Captain. Reynolds, it No.; do %,„.;'°,l. e 1!...
pose I would fight with one of my osvn o.'"'• /bet'
These were his words to fa' best- f illYl7ee.
..,..e o i?
tioa. ' ~„ P
11the A
By ATTORNEY-Gt Wpre arl.l
E.P.4-ER.,4.L - tll
ro
tols produced to you ?—There were- ,t_..f 10
Fror _ n whom did you receive titenih'ioa in
Dann, the miller, who step d ill after ''''-- '
ppe
ship and Captain Do '
uglas. /11 Jes I
Do
are the two cases; they have not been a: I
my Possession, since. Those his Loi alsbill use Dal ,
are marked with his crest. The ,athee '
neHavbe you had th dmver een claime at
in your cu all. 41„•e
eJ s, - ody e'rel: "
—I have. t 0 t`ta#
The
pistols were produced, awl seem oed •
al
considerable sensation. of }ill d
How long •
did the Earl of Cardigan re '
.1 lif-a
th e station-house ?—No longer than ti". foe' lii 7
appearance taken
the charge. I took his own bail: I
piA:),eadrance on the Monday morninea ~...„,'
tlie same by Capt. Douglas f—,:rs'l • '
Andn
Didthey did appear ?—They did- ~ ~?--BY
you take Capt. Tuckett intocustut /..,'
..
order .5"
When
Magistrates, I did. Canis'
trates, P—When h beef • •ell'e 1
e appeared oi
trates, on the 14th Oct. t • t •
Did hegive
ct_. , , his name at that time „roe) ,
Sir W. •-a oaaErr—Was Lord. Card 1v innit-
on that occasion ?—l'io •he egen atooy• I
ted by the Magistrates.
'
Was 1
le present I ask y•-_,n, Sir?— -So/ ,to-fes
A gentleman appeare`:l' before th e g`l:gi', ill
on the 14th October v/- 1 dt' into
nom you la . del 1
custody ?—I had
not then take 11
custody. , .4we-
r it.
Now attend
Novi, Sir, to the question 311(1 an.
Were
AndyCrpdresent on the 14th ?-1 1111•,', not.
Cardigan was not ?—I Le w"
`ere have
Now -
in attend to some of the ans' revs re'
givensentb your former
, -ormer examination. 501-1 re yap
e..feao the Magistrates on the 14.',th ; „we,- tftt.a•
exa •
..I matted before the Magistrate ,s t v•ro oaY-tty'itiii
the event took place ?—Yes, af or ibis L°
was in my custody..
On the 14th of September ?..-YeS a} $3"
Were you examined atex that ,e before - "
gistrates I—Yes. 'lowing'
When was that? —WI the Saturday f;,
Were you examined u third time ?-7 les.
Now,Upon oath 'lach time ?—Yes. have
Sir '" you ;10er
~.-, a I ask you upon the oat/ I
taken,__x diet- you say one word on the twe, f„.° that
,e 1 examen motions about Lord Cardigaia saanne
i e lit).a. hit his man?
Lords, I iii" A
Tne ItTTORN - 0...'"
, EI---,..,NERAL--MY d ioe•
prebend
canny that that question jt be ask,e4avy
less the deposLions,which 1 bt were
. no (..(- 11/ were
are nut in. ~,,,r Air
The Loan Tr
evidencelag in the first instance ta ken down ill hey
not all ; the Maa istrate sayio g oo
Lordship's n'
'
P's expressions were
matter. uplift
Sir Wm• FOLLETT—NOW. Fir, f ask r )11,/ ,i2)011
VP ova-:
your oath, :whether you ev e'r'said one
the two first examinatior about- Lor d Card''ad
r.is. his saying that he had
duel ,tnn lead
sap's a '
ii... art?m
I niiigt"
Th• A
0 --TTORNEY-GWAEL IL .—qty LOrdSl -'- -
6........1.• ,
again
repeat my obliection. 14011e'
SZ
The LORD HIGH,
..,TEWARE;:- ...SIT IrIll• 4 r tile
is there any objraetion. to the lifting; ill o-
depositioP.'s ? ' P , : ~,. , 'hie
.bir War. FOLLETT—My Lords, at is nll.l-,t s
for us to say whether there are a ny dee',:;,-191i
or, if any, what they contain. V, re unner'aab-
that the Clerk to the Mapistrates 'hag been .----
• . dto
retuse
pomaed for the prosecution'and he .113-s
give us any information. . .
0)
The ATTORNEY-GENIAL—., 3,--, 7... rds•, we Ca"