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London, England, 1812-04-22 00:00:00

sante et eat, from the Body of Merchants, • Marm-
faeturers, aett other loyal inhabitants of the town of
St afield, to the County ot York, and its vicinity.—
Tie Pctition expressed, io streng language, the opi-,
titan of the P.eiiiioners respecting these measures,
ant! playing /heir Lordships to adopt such measures
a° in ter is -win They may deem proper for the
purpose of tc.:scinding the same.
CALTHORPE presented a second Petition,
prec,ielv to the saute effect, from 13irininghana.
The Duke of Noa reek took .occasion to o'aserve,
that the Petition just presented bad received the
aignaturts of InOre than fourteen thousand indivi-
duals, and urged the propriety of -their Lordships
Paying the most serious. attention to a subje& cif
atleit vital importance, and tespeCting which the
lellse of -such a large portion of their leilot.v subjeas
was so decidedly expressed.
Atter a few torus from Earl FITZW7LLIAM,
The Earl ot LAUDERDALE observed, that the vaT
'lons applications o l'aliainent upon this important
3ubied, strongly expressed the opinions anattw feel-
higs of the great body ot those most interested in
'nd affected by the measures in question. What
they alleged against -Those ,ruinous measures was
strictly foundei in fait, and this he would be the
emore enabled to prove, were the documents which
'e should -move for on Fticiay ordered.to be pro!
duced. The Petithmers took a right view ot the
2tibject, and he agreed with them,' as he was sure
that no measures eeuld more efieetually xxl the cite-
rnY titan the means afforded by those Orders in
Council. They would tend eventually to the crew~
then of a Marine for the.enemy, and would, instead
of Oiminishing, tend to incrense tile supplies fur
_those at lines with which lie subjugated the Conti:
conjured [heir Lordships to attend to the
co" .•,:ch 4 shuttle., tit'long,:coine
f Llslder4.ion, as involving voinis not turfy vtt.illy
af-
euiing the commercial triad trading interests, out
, even the national importance of the country itself.
Earl BATHURST strongly ccnitelided that a very
Mistaken and erroneous sense of tire t.atuie and el-
feet of the °Wets in Council was entertained by
those whose real opinions were' expressed in the
language they ILA just heard read. He would put
• if to their Lordships what would be the inevitable
t fleet of a repeal of the Orders in Councils It
would, in fact, be to open the posts of France to
importations from the Baltic, from the Uniied States
America, and various other places; it would be
to transfr the cattle advantages of a traffic to the
• Li‘•"llf, which taught otherwise direct itself to this
country.
£he Earl of LAUDERDALE, in reply,. insisted that
the PellUotterSi;) itIVII'a question were .the prefera-
ble authority.
The Duke of MONTROSE deprecated 'all prema-
lure discus‘ten of a subject by no means before the
11°hse. He contended that the opinions of Noble
Lords nn his side of the House were iiititled to as
finch attention and respect as those so loudly urged
' by the Noble Earl. The line of argument and tone
held by 'Noble Lords opposite, tended to deceive,
instead of to inform the manufacturers upon the
subject. They represented that the effect of the
tritish Orders in Council was to benefit tte "trade
,Itrld the navtgaiion of the enemy, and to divert the
tale of commerce from the ports of this-island.—
flis conception of those measures was verydifferent.
regaided them as making part Oa wise and
just 8) stem of retaliation againii the unprincipled and
• aggressive conduct of France, providing that where,
the neutral had not the wisdom or spirit to defend
its right, the enemy should not reap the advantage
of commerce, nor that the satuable products of the
West Indies should be carried into ltis_ports. The
number of speeches which were Made, nor the,
clamour which was raised against these measures,
did not alter the nature of the question, or tend it'
tbr least to shew their want of wisdom or justice.
TRADE TO INDIA.
The Earl of DERBY presented a Petition from the
Magistrates and Council of tlie town of Liverpool,
alleging the advantages of opening a trade to the
;:,st Indies, and praying to be allowed a participa-
lion in the same. The Noble Erl also presented
two other petitions from the same quarter; one
, from certain merchants, traders, and ship owners,
of the town and port of Liverpool ; and the second
from the Trustees, &c. of the Wet Docks established
at that port,to a similar effect. These petitions be-
ll% read in the usual way, were ordered to -lie on
the table.
Lord Viscount MEeviLLE presented a petition to
the like effect from Dunifernaline, in Scotland. • ,
Ordered to lie on the table.
Earl GREY took the Opportunity to inquire of
ivlinisters when they intended to bring forward a
Atibied of such great commercial and national Ml-
' Portance as, that to which the petitions referred,
- Under the consideration of the House
, The Earl of BUCKINGHAMSHIRE adverted 'to the
I.liitiEtHly, under the circumstances of
,giving a pre
. %siit or specific answer to the query of the Noble