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commissioners had not thrown any general censure tip
the country, hind they onli pointed °lit witne dithrui

which obstructed their endeavour

ThP Cotntni-sii r,6rS

said that th(l, had been so far effective, and the) only

stated that in very many instances—hot in the majority,
not in even a large minority—but in many cases, certain
diff►cult►es interposed. The commissioners, in a para-
graph which the Noble Earl h )(I omitted to read, praised
the conduct of those gentlemen who acted n the
Finance Committee, which, be it r,rnember« d, wss the

highest and most confidential post th,t could be en
trusted to any man or set of men. H., considered that
when a Commission was appoint,d to inquie into the

gen. ral working of any measure, it would 17.);, highly im-
proper tor them to 414iscend 'nt,: particular details by men-
tioning names. Supposing a Commission was appointed
to inquire into smuggling, and they rep irted that there
was a general feeling along the coast in fay or of smug-
gling Would it be wise, or prudent, or just, to men-
don the names of the person's wives and daughters who
felt that sympathy ?—(Hear, hear.) He could bear his
testimony to that of the Noble Lord, to the humane.
charitable, and benevolent conduct of the gentry and
clergy of Ireland during the calamity which bed befallen
the country. They had sacrificed their time. and in
many instances, their lives, to all, viate the sufferings of
their poorer neighbours.—(Hear, hear.) Such an in-
quiry ought not to be granted, if it were only from the
lateness of the session, which would frustrate any useful
end resulting from it. The Government did intend to
inform 5u.211 of their officers as had been implicated, that
a charge had been made against them, and they would
then have an opportunity of defending themselves, and
making a statement to the Government.
Lord BROUGHAM recommended the withdrawal of
the motion, but at the same time he thanked the Noble
Earl for having brought the question under the atten-
tion of the House. He did consider that if the magis'
Crates did not fully exculpate themselves, they shoule
be removed from the commission of the peace. It would
not do for them to deny the charge upon their honour,
as two Members of the Lower House had done—that
would not do.—(Hear, hear.) They should fully ex'
eulpate themselves, or be removed. He did not wish to
know the names of the guilty parties, it would only gift)
him an opportunity of despising a human creature,
which was always a disagreeable sensation.—(Laughter.)
Earl FITZWILLIAM said that, with every respect
for the gentlemen who had made that report, he did
think that it would have been better to have conceived it
in a different spirit, and expressed it in different language.
They had arrived at a very eventful period, and be was
sorry to say that very little had been done during the
present session for Ireland. They had promised much,
but they had performed little ; but he hoped that
another Parliament would effect much greater good. Ile
had no doubt, a large expenditure of English capital by
the Government would render Ireland an assistance in-
stead of a burden to England ; but at the Fresent
mint he saw nothing but a great deal of want and misery
in that country for some time to come, a small niggardly
outlay would do no good.
Lord MONTEAGLE presented his thanks to the
Noble Lord opposite for having brought forward the
proposition which he had done, and he would support
him if he was willing to go to a division. It would be
utterly unbecoming if some person representing some of
the classes impeached did not refute it ; it was a serious
charge, and one which ought to be investigated, as it
was to those very persons they characterised. The
working of the new poor-law was entrusted. He was,
not about to go the length of saying that no instances of
abuse existed, even if such a measure was introduced into
this country, more enlightened as it was, abuses would
arise, more or less numerous according to circumstances.
In the province of Connaught there were persons acting
upon relief committees who could neither read ea
write, nor speak any language save Irish, and when such
a description of persons officiated, was it to be wondered
that abuses should occur? Yet, nevertheless, these
charges would not rest upon such a class, but upon the
landed gentry. The money which was given to al
country was not given in a confiding spirit, and if it hitd,.
been a much smaller sum, and given in such a spirit, it
would have done more to cement the union between the
countries than any measure which could hereafter b.
effected.
The Earl of RODEN then begged leave to withdret
his motion. He considered that the discussion which
had arisen would effect a great deal of good.
The motion was then withdrawn.
SEDUCTION AND PROSTITUTION SUPPRES"
SION BILL.
On the motion of the Bishop of NORWICH, this Bill
was read a second time.
RAILWAYS IRELAND BILL (No. 2.)
This Bill was read a second time.
FISHERIES, PIERS, AND HARBOURS (10.
LAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a second time.
TITHE COMMIT FATION BILL.
This Bill was read a second time.
HOLYHEAD HARBOUR BILL.
This Bill was read a second time.
HOUSE OF COMMONS COSTS TAXATION Bra"
This Bill was read a second time.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF G'OMMONS. July 9.
The SPEAKER, took the Chair shortly after Three
o'clock,

SECOND READINGS.
and
The following Bills were read a second time,
ordered to be committed :
Mansel's Estate.
Penson's Estate.

REPORTS.
The following reports were brought up and agree
to :
Arbroath and Forfar and Scottish Midland Junction
Railways connecting Railway.
Bowes' Estate.
London and South-Western Railway.
Rouke's Estate.
Tunstall Market Company's Estate.
CONSIDERATION OF REPO.RTS. of
The report on the Great Northern itailwaY (18• A
Axholme Extension) was further considered and agr.--
to.