The Sun.
London, England, 1815-06-16 00:00:00

CAPTAIN OCR.

Mr. WYNN'E presented a Petition from Captain
Orr; compiaining of being dismissed the service,
in consequence of an opinion expressed by a Court
Martial. An,Offlecr, who had been brought by
Captain Orr to a Court 11,irtial for an assAul;,
had been f,nind ;ruilty of disrespectful conduct to
Captain Orr, but the Court had been
.of opinion,
that Captain Orr had not been influenced by a
regard to the-service, in- consequence of which.
cpi,tion he had been. dismissed. The- Petition,
Traying for inquiry into his conduct, was biongbt
up and re-ar. -
Sir G. U'Attetfinc,a stated, that Captain Ocr
Lad-been d.istnis,ed, because he failed in proving
cimrges• he had brought aeainst an inferior
Officer, and that both the Lord Lieutenant of the
County, and the Colonel of the Regiment, had
been oropihion, that his conti!tuance in the regi-
ment %%tilt incompatible with the good of the
la ser-
nd had sosteted to the Secretary of State.
After some cx!danatiou on the part of Mr.
IVYNN:7 and Fir G. WARTtiEND,LPit, the Petition was
-ordered to lie on the table.
LORD ELGIN'S COLLECTION.
_

Mr. ROnzter WARD said he held in his hand a
retiticm from Lord Elgin, relotivc to -his valuable
rollecritni-of Marbles, which he offered to dispose
of to the public.
The Cif ANCELL9R of the ExcinduEß supported
the Petition, and stated -that his Lordship's Col,.
lection of Marbles was very valuable, and highly
desertin,,!, a liberal compensation. -
Mr. ilortzeett did nut wish that any thing should
be clone 'on the subject till next Session, when
they would have time to inquire how his Lordship
became posrigSsed -of those marbles ; whether in
eapacity_as a publie servant or as a private in-
dividual. kf in his capacity of a public servant,
the compigsation should certainly be less, than if
he
.became possessed of them as a private in-
di
Mr. BANKES said, he understood there had been
a liberal offer already made on the part of. Govern-
went for those marbles, but that the demand was
so extravagant, that they were not purchased.
He should wish a liberal price should be paid for
them, but lve would not agree, that they should be
purchased at an exorbitant rate.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the manner in
which the marbles were acquired ought to be in-
quired into, as it was generally understood that
they were obtained through the most infamous
spoliation. On the part of the. barbarians in that
country, and under such circumstances, he hoped
this country would be no parties in the transac-
tion.

The Petition was then brought up and read.
.011 the motion that it lay on the table,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUERe•xpressed

his opinion in favour of a Committee of Enquiry
to ascertain theif value, rather than the making of
a hargain.hetween the Noble Lord and the Trea-
sury. The,lateness of the Session precluding the
possibility of any longer enquiry,- it would be bet-
ter that it should be postponed. -lie had no dis-
position to oppose the Petition laying on the table.
Mr. ROSE said, be understood that the Trustees
of the British Museum would. consent to receive
these antiquities as a deposit, provided the Noble
Lord.would abide by the value which a Commit-

, tee might set upon them.
After some further observation from the CRAY...
CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER and Lord G. CAvEN-
Ptstl,the Petition wa; ordered to lie on the table.
LOAN TO THE CORPORATION OF LIVERPOOL.
MI. BIRCH robe to call the attention of tke
House to the circumstances under which the Trea-
sury had advanced two sums of 30,0001. and
20,000/. to the Corporation of Liverpool. It ap-
peared that this otoney.was lent 'without any com-
munication to Parliament, and was secured on a
tobacco warehouse; or rather, as the Hon. Gen-
tleman believed, a mere shed. The Right .Han.
Gentleman might perhaps look. to the amount of
the rent, which was stated to be 50001. a year ;
but how was this rent fixed ? It had been settled
between the borrower and the lender, and was
• greally -overcharged, as the utmost value was
2000/, a year. intilar loans had at times been
justified ; but the Hon. Member conceived, that a
particular inquiry ought to be made on this occa-
sion : he, therefore, moved,. that an account
should be laid before the House, of any sum or
sums of money which had been lent to any public
body for the last 10 years out ofthereecipts of the
revenue, without the authority of Parliament.
The CHANCELLOR of the ExCWEQUER said, that
Goven-nvnt had not acted. in the least clandes-
tinely or improperly in advancing this money : it
was ient after the fullest public inquiry. He ex-
plained at some length the grounds on which the..
agreement for the security had been consented to.
The warehouse was so much larger than what was
required as a deposit of tobacco, that a part of it
bad been appropriated to the reception of East
India produce.' The rent saved by Government
kV :IS nnn-e than double ,the interest of the money
advanced. - The case, on the whole, afforded no
grounds_ whatever for inquiry.

Mr. WYNNE insisted, that this was one of. the
most unconstitutional advances that had ever been
made of the -public money. If the Right Hon.
Gentleman had come forward, and asked for it in
,proper -way, it would not have been objected to
• by him. He could not see what Government had
to, do With the Dock of Liverpool, any more than
li any other Dock in the kingdom.
General GASCOYNR explained the investigations
that had taken place to ascertain that the secu-
rity of the warehouse was sufficient ; it had even
been undervalued ; as it had sometimes produced
10,0001. a-year, and often 7400/. From
.these
premises he conclirded with asserting that there
could be no doubt of the security being more than
sufficient. The public works %which had been un-
dertaken by the Corpora .ion of Liverpool, with-•
out the assistance of Parliament, would amount
to 600,0001. or 760,000/. The temporary assist-
ock, was, therefore,
ttneC given them for thuir

scarcely worth `tuentios ohig. ,
Sir Joirx NEWPORT- thought the question did
not at all rest upon the ample natnre of the secu-
rity but• Le.objected to she granting of any ow-

my without Oa authority of Parliament. The
same principle might be adopted for every great
port* in the kingdom.
"General ,GASCOYNP. explained:
Mr. BANXES Ob*ted to the principle on- which.
the -money was advanced ; but was convinced tlesl
the chancellor of tht. Exchequer thought he was
doing' his duty by lending it. It was, at all,etents,
an objectionable precedent, and he therefore pro-
tested against it.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explain-
ed. lle justified fbeadvances,_on the ground that
they were partial repayments by the Corporation.
Mr.BENsotsr asserted, that the interest had been
regularly paid on these grants. The estates given
as , seem-icy, he considered to be.worth a million
and a half.,
Mr. W. SMITIT made the same objections to the
priociple of the grant as had-been adianced by the
preceding speakers.
Mr. Bfaca re-asserted that the interest bad not
been paid ; and the Corporation either dill apply
oe thrant to apply -to Government for the remis-
siOn of 40001.- that was due.
The motion was then put and carried.
Mr. WYNNE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
ensure die benefit of Vaccination for such poor
pet sons as are desirous threof.
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER gave no-
tice, that tie would to morrow move for leave to
bring in Bill for the more effectually controlling
accoants that were kept abroad. -
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. •

On the Report of the-Committee being brought
np, and the motion being made to agree with the
.Resolutions,
Mr. ARBUTHNOT, seeing a Right Hon. Baro-
net (Sir John Newport) 'in his place, informed
him that be had ingnired in the CoMmissary-Ge-
neral's Department for intormaiion respecting the
questions he had asked about advertisements for
contracts being inserted in the Irish Papers, and
had been assured that no such advertisements bad
ever been sent to them by that Department. Per-
haps the Editors had inserted them on their own
authority, for some purpose which he could not
divine.,

Sir J. NEWPORT thought the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman's information perfectly satisfactory, but
could not•agree with him in his inference.
On the Resolution being 'read respecting the
sums for repairing the African forts,
Mr. ARBUTHNOT -said, 'for the information of
the,Hon. Gentleman who had questioned him last
night on this subject, hebad examined the diffe-
rent Acts of Parliament, and"found that all which
he had previously stated was correct. -
Mr. GoxpoN-thanked the Right Hon. Gentle-
man for the trouble he had taken, but as the forts
.were originally established for the protection of
the SlaVe Trade,and as that trade tit as now abolish-
ed, he could see no reason why they should not
be dismantled,,and the money they annnally cost
be saved to the country. He concluded by mov-
ing., that the Resolution be re7committed.

After some conversation between Mr. Arbuth-
mor, Mr. Nicholson-Calvert, the Chancellor of the
ExChequer, Mr. William Smith, Mr. Preston,
Mr. Vesey Fitzgerald, and Mr. P. Moore, the
Resolution was ordered to be re-committed on
Wethresday next.
The remaining ReSolutions were agreed to, and
Bilk ordered accordingly.
_The Report of the Ways and Means teas tire:
brought up by. Mr. Brogden. The several Reso-
lutions were agreed to, and Bills ordered accord-,
inoy.

Mr. ARBUTHNOT opposed the printing of the
African accounts, because the expeiice of printing
of them had increased from eight or nine thousand
pounds in a few years to the enormous' sum of
90,0001.

Mr. Weston and Mr. Wm. Smith supported the
printing of the Accounts. _ _ _

- After some observations from Mr. Arbuthnot,
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Mr., Whit-
bread, they were ordered to be printed.
Mr. Hotorea gave notice for his Hon. Friend
Sir J Newport, that he would move to-morrow
for an account of the number of persons confined
for debt in Ireland.