The Sun.
London, England, 1840-11-16 00:00:00

! than were before in use. Was the Admiralty, for
such easu:,, at once to ell or break up al those
small 74's, or 98's, or 110 .gun ships, in which our
seamen gained all our victories ? It would have been
absurd; but, as they have been worn out, andas other
ships have been built, they have been framed on a
much larger scantling, and to carry a greater weight of
metal. The Rodnay, the Vanguard, the Queen, the
St. George, the London, the Calcutta, the Powerful,
the Ganges, &c. &c., are all immense ships, and
all those planned and begun by the present Sur-
veyor of the Navy, are in fact of gigantic dimen-
sions. As we stated on Nov. 6th, sixteen of th e
line-of-battle ships now in commission are of the
most formidable description, and most approved
construction. It requires time undoubtedly to pre-
pare timber, and build ships, and the provision
which was made under the Tory regime for
that purpose having been directed towards
smaller ships than the present Administration
approve of, the Times ought to blame, if it blame
anybody, its own Tory friends. But no person is
to blame for a deficiency in our naval armament,
for no such deficiency exists. The small vessels
which the Times depreciates, are preferred by some
naval officers, and the fact is undoubted, that by
their means all our great victories were obtained.
The Times, in truth, seems envious of the Herald,
and aspires to the name and honours of GRANNY.
It has tumbled into dotage. The Thunderer has laid
aside his bolts to assume the night-cap of an old woman.
Its coarse, scowling features, however, do not look
well in the disguise, and whining becomes him even
less than bullying. He reminds us of some of those
weather-beaten termagants of the street and
the gin-shop, when they have fallen into the clutches
of the police and rave under the united influence o
drink and impotent delirium. " Let me alone," the
whining Thunderer exclaims in substance, "you
have hit me by sending communications to the out_
ports ; you have punished me by what you have
written in the London journals, but I will still roar,
and kick; and bite, and scratch." And he does
kick, and bite, and scratch after the fashion of
which we have given a specimen, but he will no
longer hurt any body,lhowever he may waste, by his
ravings, the little strength that is yet left to the de-
caved Thunderer.

The whole of the French' Journals of Friday and
Saturday have been received. They bring some
interesting correspondence from the coast of Syria,
which will be found in another part of The Sun.
The Messager of Friday night, which announces
itself as the only evening organ of the SOULT.
GUIZOT Cabinet, and the Moniteur of Saturday
morning, publish the following telegraphic despatch
from Toulon, bringing the latest news from the ca-
pital of Egypt :

~ TOULON, Nov. 10.
" ALEXANDRIA, Nov. 1.
" THE CONSUro-GENERAL TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE

COUNCIL.

" The conoentration of the Egyptian troops which
were at Tripoli, Tortosa, Latakia, and Horns, has taken
place towards Baalbeck.t.The new Prince of the Moun-
tain, the Emir Beschir.Sagir, was on the 22d at Am-
mans, with a considerable force, about four hours' march
from Ibrahim. A decisive engagement was expected.
St. Jean d'Ac re had not been attacked on the 27th.
All was tram) uil at Alexandria."
Lord PA.3I.II4ERSTON'S note of the 2d of Novem-
ber, in answer to M. TRIERS' note of the Bth of
October, has excited quite a commotion among the
French journals. Is it to be regretted that it bears
date after the appointment of the SOULT-GUIZOT
Ministry was known in London ; because every-
thing is to be regretted which serves the war party
as a handle for appeals to the worst passions of the
French people. Not that it is to be supposed that
the note was not actually written and communicated
to the representatives of the Great Powers, before
the retirement of M. THIERS from office was known
to have been. resolved upon by that Minister. But a,
every prete:it afforded by the English Government
is eagerly seized for traducing the views of
the French Ministry by the war Journals, we
repeat that we regret the post-dating of this de-
spatch, which, after all, is an examination of an
abstract principle which may, or may not be
invoked in settling the Eastern question. The
date here is a blunder, not a fault. But the as-
sumption of the French Opposition Press, that the
note while nominally addressed to M. THIERS was
virtually intended for a warning to NI. GUIZOT, is
wholly untrue.

At half-past three o'clock, Lord Granville, the Eng-
lish Ambassador., went in state to the Foreign Office,
where he bad a c, )nference with M. Guizot, which lasted
till within a few r minutes of five o'clock.
Lord Granvill e appears to be in a state of much
suffering ; be cat mot enter or alight from his carriage
without assistant e. _ _

The And de la: Religion announces the death of the
Rev. Father Maria Joseph de Geramb, Superior of La
Trappe.
The Committct! of the Chamber of Deputies has
heard to-day the e xplanations of the Ministers of War,
Finance, and Mari nc ; they remained in the Committee
till five o'clock.
The Commitu:e' of the Chamber of Peers is to meet
to-morrow, to re ceive the draft of the Address, which
it is said will lto communicated to the Chamber on
Monday.—Gaza tle de France.
We hear that M. Dupin has been nominated to make
the report on th c Address.
Private letters announce that the Lavoisier steam-
boat, which left. Syra on the 2d, arrived at Toulon on
the 9th. This. is the vessel which brought the news
announced in th a telegraphic despatch yesterday. It
seems that the Lavoisier has also brought intelligence
that the blockade of Alexandria is deferred till the end
of November.—Le Commerce.

( Frani Galignani's Messenger.)
Most of the journals comment upon the note of
Lord Palmerston in reply to that of the Bth of October
of M. Thiers. It will be seen that several of the Op-
position papers t impress great dissatisfaction at this note,
which they rega rd as both hostile and arrogant, but the
opinion that it is hostile is not general in the Opposi-
tion press, altho ugh all agree in describing it as strongly
tinctured with arrogance. The Conservative journals
maintain consiclerable reserve in their notice of this
document. Tue _Debuts, in fact, merely states with
great brevity th e nature of its leading points. This
journal says :
"The Englis h Government refuses to admit as a
principle the neQessity of the existence of the Egyptian
power, or the right, as a principle, of foreign Powers
to dictate to the Sultan as to the nomination of the
functionaries of his empire."
The Presse (inters into the subject at greater length
than the Debra:, but it makes the note rather the
ground of an at tack upon M. Thiers, than an occasion
for expressing its opinion as to the position on which it
places the East ern question.
The Constitutionnel attaches a high degree of im-
portance to Lord Palmerston's note. It says :
" This document is another step in the separation of
the policy of Ee,gland from that of France. Where is
now the time as hen the two Governments understood
each other as -to the meaning of the integrity of the
Ottoman empire ? This principle, which is a guarantee
of the equilibrium of Europe, had already changed its
sense in the Treaty of July 15, but, even such as it was
in that Treaty, it still gave to the Pacha the hereditary
Government of Egypt and a portion of Syria. This :s no
longer the case in the note of Lord Palmerston. Acco:d-
ing to him, the integrity and independence of the empire
consist in making the Sultan absolute master over the
Black Sea, as over the Bosphorus, and enabling him to
dispose of Egypt as he may please—otherwise, accord-
ing to this view, the equilibrium of Europe would be in
danger. What then would have become of this equi-
librium if the Pacha had accepted the treaty, and oh-
taked the hereditary Government of Egypt ? But
Lord Palmerston does not consider it necessary to be
logical in his notes. He cares only for one point
straight to his object, and he does so
viz.,Th marchingsnorea draw back the more he goes forward."
The Courrier Francais says the note is not hostile
but this that there was no longer any ()eel-
sia
forx explains
l a i
w hostility,
n ist
as there was no longer any enemy to
contend Lori Palmerston knowis g, says the
oe
Cannier, that if the France of M. Thiers would have
rAsisted, that of M. Guizot would not. " The doeu-
msect," says the Courrier, " assumes a tone of satisfied
—'
pride arid cold hotly, which in some parts is even im-
pertinent, and which is as much as saying The French
Government will •not declare war, do what we may."'
The Commerce takes the same line of argument as
the Courrier Francais. Its language is, perhaps, a lit-
tle more violent towards the English Cabinet, which it
charges with a determination to degrade France, and