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London, England, 1847-07-21 00:00:00

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Go G. GREY stated .at tn‘• z',.'--
,;t,
/ertiment was in attesf'aece fif the ceroser's ii quseos.
(st tlie sufferers from the late lamentable collieryetssiPelre
41 !t Wigan, was because it tosk place before. there
he: hale to instruction officer to
,attend. An irqii
ji,iiris.ir
ever, bad heeninsititoted into the matter by a , it,
of local • she magistrates; and those magistrates had came •
4. conclusion that the explosion was the result of care-
L. 'Mess on the part of the woz !mien.
R, EDUCATION IN THE ARMY.
go it R. H. INGLIS said he wished to ask the Right
t° th
n•Gentlean the Secretary-at-War a question relating
repote schoolsrn and places of worship in the army. A
had reached him that it was intended to apprhoe-
Potiiate a room in every barracks for the instruction
denominations
ofsitid,ren of soldiers belonging to the three
arteligion recognised in the army, namely, the Churchhof
lis'tigland, the Church of Scotland, and the Church -Ills ; and that it was further intended to use such room
o
sit Place of worship on the Sabbath. He wished . r
ts whether such report was true ; and if so, whethe
05? Right Hon. Gentleman the St aeietary-at-War had any
Guards
robJectlitio,t.o lay the order issu-d by the Horse sr a sunteet before the House ? 14,71's PDX MAULE said the House would be aware
°is Right Friend who preceded him in offiFe
theeed his attention to the improvement of education in
los arr°Y, not only of the children, but of the soldiers
uses and since he (Mr. Fox Maule) had been in
of egosh d endeavoured to carry out the views
tto hie
ourae Friend. For that purpose a
in had been set apart in all the barracks
Pro the the country, and schsaolmasters had been
it, ncled for the education of the army, but it was note
stZided to use such rooms as places of worship on th
uath--(Hear, hear.)
sr ABUSES OF TETE POST-OFFICE.
cluerton T. S. DUNCOMBE then rose to bring under the
ation of the House the petition of Robert
lee, complaining of his dismissal from the office of
oiscarrier in the Post•offiee. The Honourable
itsv4etleMan said Grapes was not dismissed for
Orsu/PeteneY, because it wassadmitted on all hands that
ts...Pes was one of the moat efficient carriers in the ser-
tsTii :The true reason of his dismissal was to be traced
the I,llaving been instrumental in correcting abuses in
N...0n-office, and exposing fraud on the part of
tops
~4,5• Kelly in reference to the "Post-office Direc-
ess'a A preliminary inquiry had been made into the
solitst:f Mr. Grapes, both by Mr. Peacock the
mastery to the Post-office, and the Post-
ths,,,General, but throughout the whole course of
ehn",firtuiries Grapes was not alb:seed to be heard. To
,„„_7,that Grapes was an injured man, he need only
-sstion that
Rive a i
.Kelly had been heard to say that he would
Ole t ,000/. if he could place Grapes at the bar of the
dirsssail% and he (Mr. Dunconabe) thought it was a
let7tisc,e to the Government that they should allow the
of and of the public to be made the talk
„,
stid inaulted by, Kelly
hod been connected with the Post-office for
in this way. Grapes
a-
ti„,
_et seven years, and during the whole of thatt
h__,
.no charge or pretence of a charge of misconduct
tti.4!_beeen made against him, and it was allowed by all
`;:riisheonuected with the Poet-office that he. had
a Is discharged the
IMost
attention and effi • lt therefore, too
duties of his office with the
menu. was,
%sew, , , use .914110
.t,,;:tut;tybeincathe he bad acted fearlessly and con-
disehar e of his duties to the public,
thostiuld be dismissed frets the office he held, and he
toll.lr in. "e that an humble address be presented to
e 14esty. ~,. !
nr,„:l"`aying her Majesty to be pleased to insti-
jdrilpi A-1...4.,,rY into the whole matter.—(Hear, hear.)
QNe . --""-I'4ER, vindicated the conduct of the Post-
Plb ituthorities, and prayed the Hon. Member for
ArZsnot to press his motion for inquiry.
NO4 7"''ENGER ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
th rt'e,report of the Committee appointed to confer
telaiherosson rhds on the subject of amendment on this Bill
, Lem .FOR g t u
1),
isiesss SsGE BENTINCK complained that her
het, if,'S ""eranlent had been guilty of breach of coin-
kto the gowing the amendments which he introduced
mr.
ss 11 to be struck out by the Lords.
fitted AMES denied that the Government had corn
tie all breads s
re ~„,,sa
no , 0 compact whatever, because
ititteeelauses that hrt-enPant made with reference to
!o , dto theelause hesn.struck out. The compact re:
that clause
thePerooviding for surveys, and in reference
re-
Pt. But how was it had been most religiously
me Lords
is
tens a.rnendrn ent ttsbelselgfo°object
bee Lord not to
tieise'r f 0 with the votes, item rem , the Re s es, and in answer etroe a ques-
printed
si tuber kr: the u g t honourable Gentleman ther
tl:l4WeeiVu stat.ed uiveraity of Cambridge, he (M •
1.71-_e
~
hsoewsevinetrro.,du, Fed
that these amendments entirely annulled
by the Noble Lord. The.Nobtle
est three
arne,susinu not appear at the proper time
hoe
eat
that the V_ ,Fnts, and it must be evident to t
-suer a is_ ! Lord could sot do so now.
kr si,, ''s Words from M B
ll ' übsoN , r. ROWNE,
tie falleu fro said he was surprised to hear what
re sad beentn the
gehhtot. Hon. Gentleman, who said
iseestitended thrlaut briteai
compact in this inf
s t ;all.
tsg_ Governs__ there had been a breach o
th7ses sssl\oni:i agreed to the introduction of the
nt with
repot rig !,-.,riend, and it was inconsiste
striste,riri°r 0S thelen the
the Right Hon. Gentleman _
alloweds°raiard Exchequer
-
possessed for honour and
nese in
to have
Sir the
aiss_e matters of this nature
to It.
.„:4us.!_s,to be struck out.—(Hear.)
sisit at %a H. INGLIS said he perfectly recollected
th"e of the'in, e 418 Noble Friend proposed the introduc-
.he bs s he clauses h
'dm ssinajorit • to carry
e waa prepared .. , s
NI eat, 24.„. .y, and to obviate the possibility ot
. or Of t, , slight Honourable Gentleman the Chan-
etthe , the Exehe se lets e'allses.
introduction
so 3 r consented to the . ilttebb4t he could tar then there was a compact. entered
as. Ise broken not consent to the proposition that it
"iildeto adopt
it. through because the Lords had de-
"IY IeiIAIqCELLO
by tLe ause he Rof the EXCHEQUER said the
160 " Nob] ~.pledged himself to was the one proposed
v4Llliti talc: 14ord, providing that in all cases a survey
Issof pess„Plaee to ascertain the seaworthiness of
I,piafes rs Gt's6A to carry out emigrants.
14.114 was t. BENTINCK said his Right Hon.
n_qed to Perfectly corre t ' ht he stated; but he
"eelsi " remind bi • c in wa.
/Jed nn both ii. s Right Hon. Friend that on a later
the
chietr‘Secretit imself and the t
0.
emigre 1 of
~ rY for the Coloniesagreed to the ant r
0.
easat eii".e_, Other clause relating to the manning
to
lele_Plais 0f...P5, and he had therefore a perfect right___o.
lTeest.....",?reach of compact on the part of the U
oastrb, RAAesar, hear.)
Ste e intros •readily_ admitted that he consented
sondes,
no 'tenon of the second clause, but never
111 its asort;t.eliti, he, in fact, pledge himself to insist
484' lIRNI,I°Y,the Lords.
k , hat stud he, for one, certainly did under-
for t an
14 e
Lord
and arrangement was come to between the
a for their the government to render it unneces-
to that
egoing to a division on either of the clauses,
srle(l into care there was undoubtedly a compact
~,,s_.:---(Hear, hear.)
I,,s,so'sUmilents wore the
k u It LAW n agreed to.
SI confers% ADMINISTRATION BILL.
eildale_ runes was held with the Lords relating to the
ktor i UtS their L d •
t 4W Ad - • or ships had introduced into. the_
tiageas _ itninistration 13111. On the return of the
Sir
Qr. f.a..,he
.part of the Commons,
L't the 'ln Is
It -ts. informed the House that tbe managers
Csens Wi,r,t, :If the Commons had left a copy of the
au the
Illaa_ the Commons objected to the amendments
)4 n sers on the part of the Lords.
tir. pit„p_ST- OFFICE ABUSES.
n Mr.
'.l._eoreha,`-'s titott.:ROE then resumed the debate o
no
tßeleerativ ion. Ile regretted that there was
'tie there's,e of the Post -office in that House to meet
of
See of wet. abuse. He had full confidence in the
tleverth 'S'e entertained by the Post office authorities,
kse seas eless he thought they would have acted with
Isea Croat had they simply suspended, and not dis-
Piss''s.r..,nan Grapei from his office of letter-carrier.
`N,Aasth tNGER ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
eat
,efr conference was held with the Lords on the
, part') rthls Bill. On the return of the Managers on
toAlt 6I- the Commons,
tor, • IIAWEs
°s bad , reported that the managers of the* Corn •
stss,,l left a copy of the objections to the Lords'
''ents with the managers of the Lords.
ski. r POST-OFFICE ABUSES.
Stesstrs' sIUME then- resturied this debate. He said if the
ise,ePreferred by Grapes against the Post-office
sities were correct, he ought to he rewarded, and not
its4r4ted for the part he bad taken in defending the
4s bed
of the public. On a former occasion he
‘!lissat under the consideration of the House the
te ,r,a man who had been dismissed for having ex-
bc„tne plundering system of his superiors, and it
4teSlose"Pear to him to be extremely dangerous for that
to allow men to be quietly punished in this way
„tf9tlag a great public service.
`45 " a few from several Hon. Members,
plat; observations
141:°4 Was withdrawn.
Iti, a few words from Sir DE LACY EVANS,
N ' kopp
ott Nvhi,, ATT said the case of the man Grapes was
j4ll4(iiie ', had peculiar claims. He had exposed the
el:taitsrlit,eY of public servants engaged in conducting an
isles Ls,: Public establishment, and as Grapes had
Sjitis To a fair trial, he should certainly support the
r"lieetir.inqUiry. Until recently, his constituents
t,"lot t, Ja the habit of going to the post-office to
4 Is
op guile letters, but latterly they had been compelled
Plll'°r nirl,ea a year to the postmaster for this privi-
'ke ts-ele'Y of upwards of an hour and a half took
p Ne delivery of the letters.—(Hear, hear.)
iitalltet4l4ol‘loELLOß of the EXCHEQUER said the
What illy had had before him this case, and
!SIC,: iartjs4estigated it, and he, for one, could not see
Ills h." tlice:,r in into the matter was necessary. He
, kNotiot,`,l4e, request his Hon. Friend not to press
111%,!.. r %0r inquiry.
qitt.'„!) h,,,IINCOMRE replied. He denied that any
bons, ."4
been instituted into this . case, nor had
14 up t • ItSsi Qs 0 this moment, been furnished with the
is of h• . .
/PN 4t g?„,.. IS dismissal. If there were any charges
4 - till -"vx he wouldundertake to prove that they
ass , sspes ,
1,11; ._lt ha-1N), and totally without foundation.
Until
for the
"hars'sittl s—s been Usual to post up the orders
notice ItSis's vet -1,‘113? Servant of the Post-office, but no d
bit 11p) ii ~"11'1 been posted of Grapes's dismissal ;an t —Pe t d this had been dismissed to
WS, 3' ts, ae , that roan
et,t IN
0° Malice and vindictive feelings of . .
Mr. Kelly,
Tasted i ite of the greatest tyrants that had ever been
he tnallvthe Public service.—(Hear, hear.)
14 'O4 Was then withdrawn.
1:107„. illsats, STATE OF SINDE.
-41 'Les
callthe attention of the
tifilt s, to the then rose to
eft, 7ltt ..e State of the province of S d and to
r f Its
in
e'
whether,
tam Oar future Government was to be ;
be
eS Year
laced
1414 tile Peaceful occupation, it was top .
bee 4 the tattle Government as the other territories
was to
(21 °llls 4 East India Company ; or whether it
ote„_ Queen
1 3 col to remain under a y
Ns asen,colony, or
Smde
1740 ' ? At he said, the state of .
Pett,,,, st It., present,
great ex-
thsisto t6usatisfa,etory. It was a source of
force
!tea had tnc,country, owing to the great military
it ersiskne maintained there, while, if a more liberals.e
' tei rteried policy were pursued in I a
4114 b t Is, el t rendered a most important
4 ellr -Indian Empire. It ought