The Sun.
London, England, 1812-06-17 00:00:00

and tless banntry *At iii clebt to Auldlea.' An
irri argiaaent in. ahvaar of lAarierican,comf-
merse, was ti ; that they Must
,be con-
sumers--their apa•iceiltelral parsaits were the:saMe,
they llved amder laws, spoke the. -same
language; a negro slave's apparel cost 40 Shillings
Kra:a illy. Supposing --on an average a pope-
. lation .of between itight and nine. millions,' they
must naturally consume a considerable' portion of
the manufacture& of this country,, to which they
is-ere, from early habits,. accustowed. • Beside's,
there was.not :to be seen, from Canada -to Alexi
from the. Atlantic to the Mississippi, 'such
thing as a,pauper'; therefore all the: vast nopula-'
tion must of course he consumers of otir goods.—
fle "conjured the-'House- to looli at the vast con-
,
iuniption of thirteen millions, and then say !whe-
ther such customers were not worth preserving ?
rhe lion. Gentleman - contended', :that by perse-
"Vering in the present systema, the Govcrniaent wa&
Manning the. tivy of .the enemy, nursing his ton-
, page, and eventually contributing to his strength.
•tu so doing, they shewed the incurable perverse
'less of human folly. He 'deprecated. the carrying
on a species of dishonest craffic with the Conti-
nent :by means of false licenses, instead of cherish-
' oar natural allies- and • kinsmen; the' Ameri-
cans. He described the improving state of the
American manufactories as dangerous to the 'cons-
merce between the two countries—anti therefore
recommended. some attention to be paid to what
he said. If_ the War in the Peninsula • Was
to, be' carried on,- hoped that it' mightSbc
carried on. with •-vigoar.; hat' he was not, 'in-
leeds an advocate for .a war with America, for
in that case we must. send troops 'from-Portugal
t? Canada, and.supply -Portugal with stores trams
England. It might be said ."'Woald you bow
and bend the knee to America ?" To that ques-
tion he would reply-4. No; but. you can afford
to be on peaceable terms, and to offer concilia-
tory measures to the United States, without di-
minishing your strengths or detracting from your
boasted greatness; the war in that respect had
?ten fruitful, for it has covered you with glory."
In thus counselling the House, did he not, he
would ask, counsel wisely ? The high character
which we possessed should be used as a means of
•Conciliation, . and. by conciliation this country
would .be relieved. Was the Government jealous
Of America ? He. hoped not; as ..Soon might he
13:) be jealous of his clients who supplied
Lim with briefs, as this Country of the Americans,
aced too, at such a. distance; The victories of
amillies and. Blenheim led to the Peace of
utrecht. The ,victories of Talavera . and of Co-
rwin,; might lead to conciliation with America;
and if there were tolse found among the people
America any one vaunted boaster, let hint be.
regarded. The. Hon. -Gentleman Concluded
moving,
44 An Address• to the Prince Regent, in substance- repre-
senting to his Royal Highness, that the House had been en,
ed for souk time past in inquiring into the distressed state
14 the Manufactuters, which was 'stated to have arisen from
the effects of the Orders in Council issued in 1607 and 1609 ;
-4ssuring his Royal Highness, that this House would never
Which are necessary for the honour and dignity of the
1:1 own ; beseeching his Royal Highness to recall or suspend
1410" Orders, and to adopt such measures may tend to
vencilla.te the neutral powers, without bacr cing Aix just
fights Of the Crown."
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On
aa e question being put;
• RosE noticed the precipitancy with which
the Hon. and Learned 'Gentleman had hurried on
the discussion, -and-stated that he came to it un-
Prepared,, not having been able to digest the vo-
luminous evidence,,altlaough he had applied 'him-
self to it iasessantly. The Right Hon. Gentl&-
nian then proceeded to comment on'the speech of
the Hon. Gentleman, on the evidence,' and- to give
such an answer to Le ease as it appeared: to him to
I"clnise. 'He observed at the outset, that the Hon..
C eat. had stated theYatious distresses of thelabour-
trig poor. To that statement he subscribed—he had
never' denied it, and, though-he had bee* charged
With. treating those distressesloosely; yet those
Altho knew kiln best,' knew that it was repugnant,
to his feelings 'so to do. He had never heard of
Or seen the distresses of any individual, but he felt
for his situation. It Was therefore' an'act" of in-
justice to his character to impute to him un-
,_wortliy actions. The Honourable Gentleman
pad stated, that those distresses- Were brought
°II by the state of comMereiahobjects--that asser-
tinu he (Mr. IL) had always.denied to be founded
,
'4 fact. The OHers iu Council Were intended as
inessass ~f-'resaliaton against the common eae-
blY. wile.; had declared, that this country should
not be aermitted to, send a ship to 'the ports of
the Contiaent.' The effect Of them was not such as
descr=ibed. The Hon. Gentleman had asserted, that
;nose who- contended in favour Of the Orders
111 Council, had not produced any witnesses to
aasOrt their necessity, or to shew they were not
Frelacifeial to the commerce of the country. A
f?evalent notion, he knew, had gone. abroad upon
that subject, and it was natural tO•suppose that if
14e labouring manufacturers' were totally those
,1 whom they placed confidence, that the fact
1
fl,4s $O, they would in a mass;..and demand
tl'e repeal ; -the -opinian had 'taken,sneli deep root
hat it was impossible tO' convince them to the
°lltsary. Under these circumstances, was it sin-'
that no material evidence had been pro-
aced In truth, it was dangerous for the ma-
t4'nfaeturers themselves to come forward and tes-
,cY to the cOntrary... With this feeling, many
merchants,• who otherwise would have appeared
ft the bar, were disinclined to come forward, for
they
of disobliging-the manufacturers with whom
their
were connected, nor did they like to offend
correspondents in America. As to some of
the distresses particularised by the Hon. Gentle-
an, there was no evidence of the existence Of
''stress in the West Riding. The conversation
t
IvtsPecting the Inspector General of the Customs
bas Unworthy that gentlernan, and the fact was
t ett as stated ; it was utterly untrue. No person
I,oaldbelieve that the Board of Customs, or the
"laa °ard of Trade would authorise a fallacious- state-
-I.,4'ent to laid before the House, merely for the
tirPose of swelling the amount of the Exports and
merchant
a•ts. How stood the fact ? Why thus--a
doerehant made an entry, or at-least his clerk had
„;-le it for him, 9f- a quantity of goods, less in,
are than they actually were. This error would
tv:ie subjected,him to the total loss of the goods,
Ila)"...therefore he was desired to amend his entry,
of visellshe acoordinaly did. tan ports
the return
• .:fe amount of the exports and imports formed