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London, England, 1823-03-03 00:00:00

HAMPSHIRE COUNTY Piii&ETING.

WINCHESTER, SATURDAY, MARen 1.
This morning a Meeting of this County was
held at the Castle of Winchester, to fake into consideration the
propriety of petitioning Parliament, in the present alarming
state of the Agricultural Interest, and the subject of a remedy
for the evils under which that interest now lehours.'
The Meeting was called by seven Magistrates---(Sir T. Bar-
ing, Henry Budd, Robert Weight John Dathy, William New-
boltl Thomas Butler, Michael Hoy),
.the High Sheriff having
declined to comply with the Requisition, addreesed to him by
a number of Freeholders for that purpose.
At twelve o'clock, several Magistrates and Gentlemen hav-
ing come into the Grand, Jury Chamber, Sir Thomas Baring
was moved into the Chair unanimously. The Court before the
Grand Jury Chamber was occupied by a large assembly of, re-
spectable persons, amounting to between 4. and 5000. The
Speakers addressed the Meeting from the different windows cf
the Grand Jury Hall.
Sir THOMAS BARING, having taken the Chair, severely
Censured the late High Sheriff for having refused to call a
County Meeting, at the requisition of upwards of five hundred
respectable occupiers of lama
Mr. MARSH presented himself to propose a Petition. These
were three classes of persons who proposed remedies for the
present sells ; they might be called the Teansitlottists, the
Oreareprodtetionists, and the' Taxationists. Teansition meant'
a sudden change: but it !Getsa curious sort of sodden change
that lasted seven or eight years. Now he begged to refer them
to figures, in order to chew how' unjust the position of three
sort of men were. Nine years before the American war,
wheat was sold for 465. per quarter, for nine years during.
that war it fell to 445. ; and for. nine years • after it, wheat
rose to 48s. or 475. per quarter. Over-production never could
be the cause of distress ; it was never known to have oc-
casioned any distress. , The country • was divided into two
unequal classes : the one that lived on the taxes, and that
which lived on the fruits of their own industry. He refer-
red to a pamphlet which compared the state of Agriculture in
1792 and 1823. In 1792, wheatwas 52a.; taxetion 16,500,0001.;
the outgoings, rent, taxes, and all, of the land, were
25,00(1,0001. In 1823 the produce was 10 per cent. less; the
amount of taxes was 18 millions on the lance ; the outgoings
were 26 millions ; and remaining for rent—nothing. Ile
then proceeded to show the necessity, in his opinion, of Par.
hereunto}, Reform. It was esio Parliament could not re.
lieve the people : this was not true. Were they omnipotent
only to do injury ? If' this set of Ministers could not relieve;
a fresh set might. He could not propose to ehe present
Minis-
ters a better mode of knowing, practically, Agricultural Dis-
tress, than to take a bad farm, with a long lease, and have the
existing proportion of taxes, and tithes, and rates to pay. He
hoped that there would be no divieion amongst the Reformers.
Reformers, as people did in private life, ought to give and
take, and, sinking all minor differences, call with one voice
for the establishment of a rnpentibk Representation of the
people in Parliament. He understood his Petition was to be
opposed by Mr. Cobbett. He was anxious that theyeatle
should do what they thought best for themselves e and if his
Petition should be rejected, he would not feel any disappoint.
meat. He concluded by proposing the following Petition
" To the Honourable the Commons of the United King.
dom of Great Britain and Ireland, in Parliament as-
sembled, the Humble Petition of the Ceunty of South-
ampton ;
:fe'hewetli—That the Landed Interest of this country is
suffering under distress highly alarming, both in degree and in
extent, is a fact which has been already recognized by your
Honourable House, and is therefore unnecessary for you: Pell.
tionen to insist on.

" That the mums hitherto proposed or adopted by yotr
Honourable House for remedying the same, have been wholly
inefficient. The difficulties of Landlords and Tenants are
hourly increasing, and threaten, at no distant period, utter ruin
to both.

" That in this appalling situation it is natural that your
Petitioners should direct, and they accordingly have directed,
their attentions and inquiries to the causes of the exile which
they, endure, with the view that they may be permitted hum.
bly to suggest to your Honourable House remedies for each of
their distresses as may be deemed remediable. ,
" That your Petitioners are fully persuaded that the present
distrest of the country does not arise from any single cense, but
from the combination of various influential events.
" That your petitioners will not_'attempt to enumerate the
whole of such influential CallSe3 or events, but will briefly state
those which, in their humble judgment, have had the most de.
cided operation. •
" That the violent and almost sudden fluctuation which at
times has taken place in the value of the currency of this king-
dom, insomuch that, at some periods within there £ years, the
value of the currency, in exchange for corn end other necessaries
of lite, has differed more than two parts in three : such differ.
ence, an regards the diminished value of the currency (after
making full allowance for the increased demands for produce
during the war), being created, as your petitioners believe, by
the Bank Returns Act, in the year 1797 ; by the immense in-
crease thence arising. in the circulation of paper, not only by
the Bank et' Engiand, but by numerous Bankers. Hence, it
foll Owed, that all contracts or engagements for the future
payment of money entered into during this forced and unnatu.
ral depreciation of tire currency, have subsequently become
ruinous and destructive to most of those who wen unfortu-
nately in such contracts or enragemente. If this argument be
correct, it valet apply most loreibly to the enormous load of
debt with which the nation wa burthened during the same
period ; the interest of which re are now paying, irea currency
of much higher value than was that in which the principal was
lent.

" With regard to the siidden increase in the value of the
Circulating, Medium, your Petitioners deem it may be readily
accounted tor, namely, in part, from die dithinished demand,
and other catlris, operating since the war ; but, principally,
from a vast quantity of Paper being withdrawn from circula-
tion* in, consequence of the liegialative provision for resuming
Cash Payments; commonly., called. Peel's Bill. In short, the
quantity of the Circulating Medium having been much les-.
eened, it necessarily, like any other commodity, became dear,
in proportion to its scarcity.
That your Petitioners litisienO hesitation in asserting that
another gfeat causer nay, as they believe, the greatest cause of
their distress, is the great, monstrous burthen of Taxation itu.
posed- on them, arising from the intirdinate and profligate waste
of the National Wealth during s protracted war; and a still
continued laVish and wasteful, , and, in many cases,
nary and corrupt .Public expenditure ;—a Taxation the more
insupportable to. ycrur Petitioners in partimilar, inasmuch as
the price of three bushels of Nl'lleitt Grain will now barely de:
tray the same nominal *Mown of Taxes,, as one bushell would
have paid a few years past.
" In addition to thegricvan
in cea already set forth, your Peti-
tioners feel warranted suiting two other bunhene which fall
with peCuliat weight Upon the Landed Interest,. namely, the
Poor Rates and Tithes, the blirthen of Tithes in particular,
however sanctioned by long usage, as every day's experience
proven it to be,-vexatious and injurious in practice—the fertile
source of hatred, malice, and uncharitableness, where the high
interests of Religion anti Morality demand that peice, harmony,.
and mutual good, should prevail.
" Before.your Petitioners, proceed to utter their prayer to.
your Honourable House, they presunie, With all humility
.and
respect, to state what they conceive to be another grievance of
the most serious nuignitude—an evil, indeed, of such vast im-
portance, as to have been, in the &in conviction of your Peti-
tioners, the prime source and origin of the wrongs, oppression,
and eaLlaiitier of which, in common with their fellow subjects,
your Petitioners have to eximplain t—your Petitioners mean the
imperfect, unconstitutional, they will s.dd, illegal, means, by
which 11 'nets. are returnee, or noininatedoo your gonour.
able House.

____ ___..... _.
" Your Petitioners Attain frOm any, detail of the, cOrruptions
and abuses in the election of Members of Parlitosien Peeing
that, for tnanyYdr a past, the table of your Bout House. i‘s, been
tio
loadvd with the neif!ected and scorned. Petitions of in ns of
. , . . but ~.. . ,
the pecv.l)e, iipten t is crying evil ; your reutPuert Po
most confletentlY hope and trptt, that the day will very shortly
arrive when the oyes of youF,Honourable Rouse will be open-
ed to the necessity of redressing
.the manifold and avowed vitt'
lations of both the letter and omit of our laws. and, that the
infamy and 1313chccd of 011 nelettion, ow such prattites ays
necessity to the g0c.,1 Government of this country, shall be
made as manifest to your licoqurable House U 3 it hal lone
been w, therest bcaly of the piep'4,,
" Vcair itt etiiitionits fittint.dy rcque4,Ahat idinulii our. tico,
House concleseencl Jo take thetr above-awed complainte into
consuls cyan, it. nsay be clearly %tuktitnail, tioatlnue poi,
tia4ra ally disclaim the 36141 i, or -dome to skiift 144 V4lthen
frothtlirtnselveit, or Landowner.; or Oieupleils, in Wier- to im-
pose the saute on any other class of tip, community. Yaw tel.

tioners, therefore, deprecate and protest against all plans, pre-
jects, and expo Tents, for a forced and unnatural rise in the ne-
cessaries of life, whether by Corn Bills, renewed Bank Restric-
tion Acts, or a large re-issue of an unsound Paper Currency,
your Petitioners humbly seek remedies, bread) general, Na-
tional. and Consti,tutiunal:
_ _

" Your Petitioners will neither degradobemselves, nor in-
sult your Honourable Rouge, by advancing any, facts cr propo-
sitions, in the truth and justice of which til.ty have nottbe most
conscientious belief; acting under thiiefeeling, and under
the intimate conviction of the truth of the several matters al-
ready premised, your Petitioners presume to , state to your
Honourable House, that the main hope of relief from the at-
larnitous circumstances in' which they are placed, rests won a
very large reduction being speedily made in Taxes and Imposi-
Liens of every kind and deenription, so as to ruttier the neces-
saey and unavoidable expencies and outgoings of your Petitioners
in some degree commensurate with the increased value of
money, and to your Petitioners' impoverished circumstances;
am.ti your petitioners are well aware that this cannot be effected
but by a rigorous and determined curtailment in all and every
branch of National Expenditure.
"Sour Petitioners deem it superfluous to indicate, in detail,
.to your Honourable House, the objects to which they would
specially implore your attention; they may,..heweyer, be per-
mined to point .out—en immense Stand -Army in time of
Peeetee-unneeeessey or oveepaA Tale .ad- Peitidees
--ecriupt sinecure Oraut and . Revereions—snd. last, though
not lteat, an summons Civil List.
Alter this short enumeration, your netitioners do briefly,
but most earnestly and bumbly.pray, that your Honourable
House will, forthwith, proceed to take into its most serious con-
sideratian the important subject of the National disbursements,
in all its various and multiplied brandies and departments,
with a view of reducing or abridging the same in every possible
way, consistent with the honour, safety, and dignity of the
kingdom ; and further, that In pursuing such investigation,
your Flor.ourable House will be pleased to direct its inquiries
as to the expediency of more effectually disposing M some way,
fcr the benefit of the public at large, of a portiOn of the pro-
ptrty csiled the Crown Lands, and also how far a portion at
least of that prepertit called Church Property, can, without in-
fringing the vested rights of existing individuals, be made availe
able for the purpose of National reief.
" And your Petitioners further pray, that your Honourable
House will institute curious anti solemn inquiry into the sub-
ject of Tithes, in cider to devise some nlan which, not only
your petitioners may be relieved, but die Ministers of Esta-
blished Church may be adequately paid by some more respect-
able mid conciliatoryeneans than the impolitic, unjust, and
vexatious mode at present practised.
" And your Petitioners further pray„ that as there appears
from past experience but little hopes of the redress of Na-
tional Grievances from you Honourable House r.ll at present
constituted, that your Honourable House will forthwith en
courage, promote, and adopt, such a full and efficient Reform
in the Commons Howie of Parliament, that_youe Honourable
House may become in truth and in fact, the Representatives of
the People, feed from the, baneful alloy and domineering in.
fluent of the servile nomineee, titled, or other individuals, and
of the equally inefficient Representatives of those decayed, con.
temptible,a.nd notorious veuid Boroughs.
• " And your Petitioners further pray, that if, eller yoer Ho.
nouzable Hoene shall have adopeed and fairly put to the proof
the expedients before humbly suggested, and such others as to
your wisdom shall deem meet, the whole shall be' ound in.
eutfizient to afford adequate relief from the heavy pressure of
Tazation---that then, and not till then, yourHortoureb:e douse
will direct its serious attention to the making some eqtiitable
arrangement or accommodation, under well.eoneidered Ernie;
and reetrictiorte, not only with the public creditor, but in certain
spreiel cacti between man and man also."
NEALE seconded the Petition.

Mr. COBBETT thought that the Petition was not such as
was calculated to bring about the result which the Meeting had
so much at heart. He had hi, his hand another Petition, which
he prepared in London, and which he believed was better calcu.
lated to effect their wishes. This Petition put, refereed to the
Petition which that very County had presented :Aix years ago
to the House of Commons, Weilruigl►t theynow say to the
House--if you adopted our recommendations six years ago we
would not now have to complain of distress. The Petition
stated :—" It is only about the remedies that we would now
trouble your Honourable House. 'We beg to remind you, that
in the year (1817) we called for a Reduction of the Army—
for a Reform in .Parliament—for the abolition of Sinecures—
Reduction of Salaries--and the Interest of the Debt." They
now played for the same thing. The Petition then went on to
pray, that the House would receive favourably any proposition
trade for the Commutation of 'Tythes, and the application
of' a part of the Church Property, and the Crown Lands to
the national exigencies. It prayed that the House would cause
to take place an equitable adjustment, not only of all- con-
tracts with the public creditor, but between man and man. It
was because Mr.'Marsh's Petition said nothing of this adjust.
meat that he thought it necessary to propose this. lie urged
the Meeting to adopt the Petition.
Mr. CARL seconded the Petition.
Mr. HUNT now pressed forward, and with great violence
placed. himself beside Mr. Cobbett at the window. He was re.
ceived with cries of " Bravo!" lie spoke at great length,
but it is merely important to mention, that he made his peace
with Cobbett, and supported his Petition. In the course of hir
speech he asked the Chairman, if be had lowered his rents, and
asked the Rev. hlr. Wright if he had lowered his tither—.(Mr.
Wright,. " I have.")
la The tatitatan answered, that it was with much satisfac-
tion he was enabled to state, that not only had he lowered his
rents, but that he was amongst the first of the landlords who
had began to do ao I
hlr. Pet alma, M.P. begged to say, that there were only two
ways of giving relief in his opiniora—by reducing the cost
of production, or defending the home produce, by the imposi.
tion of protecting duties. He did not agree with those who
ascribed so much influence to the currency, in affecting
prices, and quoted the state of prices before the ptuising of the
Restriction Act, and before the parsing of Mr. Peel's Bill, in
proof of his assertion. The Honourable Oentleman concluded,
by moving a series of Resolutions, in substance the same as
those adopted at various meetings in Scotland, under the Rum.
pices of Sir John Sinclair, and the principle object of which
was to make silver a legal standard ha well as gold.
Mr. NVEIIII proposed to add a prayer for an alteration in the
Poor Laws, by which a National Rate may be substiuted for a
Parochial Rate, which would ho founded on the broad principle
of eeual taxation and common equity.
Those Resolutions were then put and negatived.
The Petition of Mr. Cobbett was put and negatived, and the
Petition of Mr. Marsh was Adopted by a greet majority.
Before the Meeting was dimOlved a Relolation was passed,
declaring that the conduct of the late High Sheriff,' In refuting
to calla Meeting,was unconstitutional, and deserving of censure.

DREADFUL. FIRE.—At seveno'clock, last night,
a dreadful fire broke out in the house of Mr.
HAWES, cheesemonger and porkman, in Berwick-
street, Soho ; smoke was first observed issuing
from the shop windows; no person being in the
house, admittance.was not very soon obtained ;
the issuing of the smoke increased, tend found its
way in a great body from t) window which wait
open in the second floor. Engines arrived upon the
spot,and a crowd had assembled, when the window
shutters and frame of the shop fell into the midst of
the people; several persons were in consequence
'very much hurt. The flames had by this time
nearly destroyed the house, three quarters of an
hour having elapsed -before water could be ob-
tained ; the engines then commenced a brisk
play. About a half.paft eight the front wall of
the home separated from the middle, the lower
part falling with a tretnendons crash, shortly af-
terwards the other part of the wall and roof fell
with the same dreadful noise. The firemen site-
ceeded in very considerably subduing the flames
by nine o'clock. A. detachment of the Foot
Guard: arrived as also a great number of die
police, to prevent any prvfertY trails he-en stolen.
Not u sotrgle trade Hikiret't boo*. was
saved

FORIIGN INTELLIGENCE.

PARIS, Fes. IT.
CHAMBER OF DEPUTTES.

SITTING O WEDNIO4Y; nth. 96.

The siting opened at the usual hour. 1,114:. de Chataau-
briand, de Belluno, a Vi.1.161e, de Payreauet, de Cie:moot-
Tonrierre, and de.Corbierss, were aniciisteety iiiredueed, sza
took their seats, 021 el le thzistetial bend:.

Conformably to the order of the 'day, the dlsousstois on thl
project of law, relative to an extraordinary credit of
dred millions, was rasumNl.

General PARTONNEAUX ascended 'the titmice. ?le -.
menced by impressing upon the minds of the assembly that the
project was equally advantageous and honourable, inaanitich as
no additional burthens would be thereby *posed upon the
country. The King, who wisely and preibundly rellette.d upon
every measure which railated to the dignity of bin Crown and
the welfare of his subjects, had declared that he wisboi town-
thine in peace With Spain; but eXteesee w at that; height in
that ill-fated conntry, and every conelitatorY ptufotsition had
been rejected.. Pri-ca .of the f3ourbut had b-erh
shaken on his throne by a rebellions army, his own subjects
kept him a prisoner in his Palace, and innumerable victims -of
such a tyrannical system inundated a portion of the French. Pr-
ovinces ; their territory had been violated by a band of ruffians,
who had r.lthlessly massacred women, children, Aged and
wounded men. On these grounds he thought the credit indis-
pensable ; and after some observations, ili answer to the argil:
rents of General Foy, he concluded, by voting for the &dap-
, -tion of the project.
M. MANUEL COi.tellilt4, that under all representative Go-
vernments, it was an 112COOttl'i4la principle that the Government
ought to submit to public opinion, represented by one ematear
the legislature, both declarations of war and treaties of peace,
and it was in the exercise of their right to vote the subsidies, that
the Chamber of Deputies would convey the public opinion on the
war, which Ministers were about to undertake. One
ter had already affirmed, that, by -enouncing peace, he had lost
his popularity. It was thus avrtred that the projtcted we was
unpopular.
On the righ no!
M. FORBIN d'ISSARTS—It is national.
M. PABTONNEAUX—II is honourable. •_

M. VANUTIL continuation)—New, he would a.el: how
could the Mlnistry insist upon their eapportinir a war,. upon
which one of its Members had already pronounced midi an opi-
nion ? They (the Ministers felt, that their views could only
be supported by specious arguments, and therefore, the tasle of
justifying the meditated .war was confided to one who was best
able to acquit himself by his position and talents. That Mi-
nister (M. de Chateaubriand) had assigned as the motives of
the war, that their merchant ships were pillaged by ship;
bearing the Spanish'flag, that French Connie had been ptr-
eonally menaced, and that France had been three times violated.
On the rightLrYes, yea, these facts are authenticated.
M. Mali E thee° .facts sufficiently serious to deter-
mine us to go to war ? Were they even proved ? The Cham-
ber had only heard allegations,and Ministers were !mad to nub -
mit to -them diplomatic notes which would pastel:tee the au-
thenticity of the inoLives upon which they were about to plunge
the country into war. With regard to the violation of me
French territory, if they were to consult positive accounts, It
would.be found, that it had been respected even at times (vhen
the incursions of the Spaniards would have been exeunt:le.
(Violent mueinure.)
M. Foams d'lssAßTs—no and address the Cortes.
M. PIET—You are not a Frenchman !

MaltuEr.—" Those whom they were pursuing found re-'
fuge in the rear of our troops. This is inferrnatiet, which has
been withheld. Were they not hound to protect vietimsagelett
atsaseins. M. Manuel proceeded to contend that the ivartrup-
tion and injury sestaineti by their trade with Spain, were a tee
tributive result of the unneceeearysstebleislenent 6i r. eanitory
Cordon; this it wss which halted to the .Ommenceo.erit of the
hostile system.
• The excesses of the Spanish Revolntion, and the danger Of
the Monarch, Which were inlisted amongst the motives which
called for intervention were sufficiently answered by the frank
and just avowal of the Minister who admitted that one Go.
vernment had no right to interfere in the: Internal aiLire of an-
other State ; because, if such interposition were recognized,
there was no reason why their own institutions might not be sub-
ject to foreign dictation. The Minister, however, had insisted
upon the exception,—Trprided what war passing in a convulsed
state, did not compromise, directly or indirectly, the interests
of its neighbours. How could such an example be urged, after
having aeknowledged the principle in question as an abbe-
pensable condition of the independence of nations. Could an
example destroy a principle ? If it were so, principles had no
force. There was no principle compatible with arbitrary power.
. the right.—There are none compatible, with, revolu-
tion.
M. M vrt.—The Ministers think that they have triumph-
ed in this discussion.
On the right.:--They hate overwhelmed you.
.M. HYrir DE NEU VILLE.—Your answer is a proof of
their success.
M. Mateute proceeded to complain of the deficient know-
ledge of the Minister of Foreign Affairs in regard to dipin.
mirtie tranractions between France and England in 1793. The
declaration of the former Power, on which he (M. de Chateau-
briand) had so confidently relied for a justification of the war
with Spain, did not appear until the French armies had passed
their frontiers, repulsed Prussia and attacked Germany. He
had also cited the example of lilngland when Lord Castle.
reagh demonstrated in Parliament, that Austria might inter-
fere in the commotions of Naples and Piedmont. Ministers
thought to perplex them with similar doctrines ; but they had
forgotten the result of this disastrous opinion of Lord Castle.
reagh ; he, however, judged and punished himself too ee-
verely.
M. Fonant direSaltTil.—What triOnstrous bad faith !
Dunes.--You insult hie memory.
Maleuri..—He punished himself too severely fot ethers
to be inclined to adopt his doctrine. England, be contended,
had made war at that period for the protection of commercial
interests, which, as they were her chief support, so they were
the paramount objects of, her policy. To promote these, 'sire
did riot hesitate to make peace- with Napoleon. England
spurned foreign subserviency, and het soldiers were tlever led
to combat for ancient prejudices,. The Minister for Foreign
Affalrs had left rip effint untried to tohyte their minds- He, had

revers/0d to them certain confidential conversations which he
had had with a Sovereign at Congress ; and this revelation had
informed them that it was expected on the part of France, that
she thould preserve herself from the moral contagion of the
Spanish Revolution. It was proposed to them to sacrifice their
1111111t9 to re-establish, not peace, but continual war. What
benefit would Spaniards derive fromi the change to which it was
designed to subject them ? What vengeanee would then fol-
low t In 1814 Ferdinand VII. watt replaced on his Throne by '
the Cortes, who had framed the existing' Constitution. There
w"MI4. Fion)ausrtyrtt°d'alvsTagettir'litis---dtOrdhia sewt:Yordwa:r 114)—"torr. asStrtieTtil
Are atrtvidui—(turtgug to the Prtaident)—this Icriptige, Sir, is,
insffportable, we cannot calmly hear a legitimate overtment
qualified as atrocious, the Ooverntnent of a Bourbon • •
M. DEstsnaY.—llave they not immolated a number of
Royalists—the unfortunate Parties, the officers of the garriskin
of Cadiz ?
On the right—" Recollect the crimes of the tharimer Asso-
elation (Martilleros), the Massacre of Vinuttia, the judicial
Intaßgination of Elio, &Adieux., and many other victims."
Violent tumult. We (Journal des Debate) heard florae ex.
&Mations which we shall abstain from repeating.—(Loud
erica of Order.)
The 'PaXerntrsT observed, that had the Spettlem referred
to the condltet of King Ferdinand, he woulddecd hl to
order ; but his observations related to the eanduct of the a-
- nish Government consknieritly they could not be' cora tr.
ed as n personal insult to that Moneirch.—(Freith explosions' of
murmurs.)
geveral Voices—Be spoke of the conduct of King rtr-
clitiatti.
on the right--iliiiinguage IS &rated by tiffs haired- of tLt
nourbcnist.
The PataiDtMT, tornewbat .Ape d, the tyniult,
oln:riv ed, that reproacups rripeatint the coridu'et of Govern-
taPPC ;Calla not tie attackpd ea being Atelred at Abe Orions of
Aut ;:-.41-Itivata4rtriurs)--buthexatbanneitOliiiir the whole
of"
-e sentenze Urine be callatitie iterates to offer
• At MA:4 att. prc.z.riata.--FOeiign war woiil4, 41144 ci
suppressiag the txctgars of tivit was. vtily LeritYlkte than.—

• • 6. rdfr:c
If they wished to save the life of Fettling , loop or m
net to r;tetv the cirelitristariesii,htill 144 hdi;leill
fold. those tihtige fate inspired theia wltli ittiettie.

M. fit 14-orr.—Eio legitimate !
M. PARI/ESSUB.--So legitiiiiate 5
M. de la Bour.poNzraTE...—So legitimate!
A voice on the right,—TNa is dread Ail ; tic cannot en,
afire Kith flippant !impart, , ' . •
M. M sr; unr...—So legitimate C You. anticipate& in i:t th-
tiort. re was the intervention of rneeigners; in itta itevt4uoun,
that led to the fate of Louis Xy L.
M.- LE3 MAISONS. —You are justifYing, regkdde ;
rtf. Fottatx blesarrs.—:lt la the tan age of' tl: rya -
iintion. .
M. Mkutritt.—Whit caused the fate of i4l: st, ' ? I,
was the protection of Prince which placed them Jo !ilea
with public opipioni and M
~ prevented their looking to iIS t c..
Its
lish nation. for support. Must I say that thit moment isiliat.
the dangers of the Royal Fumlly of France had beceine the
most serious, was after France reveltAionsly Friar; fist tit...t
it was necessary to defend b'crakf by new *st.rengtia, and, 2.4 r....*
energy wholly new ?
(Scarcely had this itteneelvable septepp teen utttred, th.a4
a general motrement Of isdighathrt watt manifested by die entre
riglifeida, and the Ametattra in the tribunes. ii.ven sorn.:.
Kellen et the left evinced their illsepprobition: The 14:,,m.
hers of the right sinkti!ta.neees:i me and deritanaed t'llat„ rd
Manuel should be called to order.) ,
M. the PRESIDENT.—It is irpL.ossible t.. 3 tolerate 14.,P;it ki.: -
rye' ne has alid, La Allt4lcti ' afrefitift *Ma KU grape.:
ep ores, that the nation was bound to act with rantbLd
energy.
M. Durcangsv, M. Foy, and M.:Mrs:din (st.vessitrely),
Kr did not say so.
M. FOItIIIN reifil3All23.—Voll do well to deity it; 771
bh13.11 to *vow.

M. LIMN DE NEDVILLZ.—rt was ciaaAr a sentencot
horrible import.
M. FORBIN D'lsnartlrs.—:t was a svlrth ref' the death' Qf
Ferdinand.

The Members • of the right side quittscl 'their
cluing that they would tiot 46 sit bt a Chamber where gi.rch
a man could speak his stnurnents, and be the apologist of re-
gicide.
DI. Hyde de Neuville rushed to the'Tribune, (M..
rue!. stepped on ore aide.) He cernmencett amidst general tn -
'huh to vindicate France and the army. The Preaident:o4lcs!
upon him to resume his seat, ay his occupation of the triV.it,.: •
was irregular. ..
M. HYDE DE Nr trvit.Ls: declared, that Under such eir-
cumstances the oliservance of forms was art abkirdity,
During this contention, M. Manuel stood with troll:se/1
azins, signilicantiy surveying the right side.
M. CRov DE SontnE.--" Iris urnoemly posthre eld;.: to
the horror of hi'.; lingaitge."
hl. MAN vs: a. was assailed with indignant reproaches trot
the Member:) on • the right; some of the Members on the left
' recriminated, and the Clatmbet. was a scene of utiexatnnled
uproar. ''he President's Watts, to restore order were ineffe,:-
tual, he put on his hat and declared die Sitting suspended.'
M. .Mati ur 1. repeatedly put his eyellaSS, and dirta::d
his looks to the right ride. The Deputio withdrew to ti:t
Bureaux, and Aliniaters, Peers •or Prince, remained in
60.141.
M. de Chateaubriand entered his carriage. It was pretu
that he prorieded to the Thuilerice, to infozni the King ci
• what bad passed in the Chamber.
. At four o'clock the Sitting was resumed. Agitat'or
ilowevery visible on the counten.sces of rn Atly of the
It was announced that the Members had decided in the

leaux, that a Coinmission should be ominateS
devise some measure to repress such scandalout deviAdon-7,7t
the pazt of any Member of the Assembly,. The Cottreisiic!-,.
was accordingly appointed.
M. Alaguut, delivered a letter to the -Pnsicient.

FORBiN (I'L SA RT 3 rose to make a proposition.
The Pitt InEr dec)ated thatt azrenbly to the valet cf
Chamber, must Et Abe resistered, afterwards demi:it'd .7;.
the Bureaux, and finally, notice of its discussion given.
The right side ware impatient that the usual foraialitet
be diapans.a with on the ground of extiordintry eircumatane 3.
The President petsisttd in hla relumal, which excited vieib...r:t
disapprobation.
The ParstriE 1' then said, in an elevated tone of voie,:—
M. Manuel has put a letter into my handa.
All the right aide•—We want to know nothing of its
tents. _

iy Members again demanded et the President to piat t.l
the vote, Whether they would hear the proposition of irter4.,!:.
d'lssartol; he, hotvever; was ine-.lorablein his refusal., on
ground that it was peremptorily incurithent upon him to tutu -
tamp the regitiated order of their proceedings, Much tau va t.
sued, and the President, seeing-his effhtt.o t,. rtts:l2re Ordes
less, dichtted thtt Gluing dissoived.
Great nutnbtl of Deputies---Bravo I PiaVo I • 7.11111. it • it
that the Chan:Ater does justice-to' the regicidal, maxims wt,,-;;:.
have been advanced within its walls.
The DeFurieS formed iu rrovipi within, ata In the vicinity
the hall ; some engaged in 'earnest, and odlttri
convert:a:lota. •

It is grid that M. tila:ttEl. has Arc ioed upon vtihlishi4g tt
letter which he del:vett:li to the PresttleLt. ittsit ,Oit n*o4 of
Which the Chamber retltsed to heat.

SITTING 61^ PTA. 27.

Berm, the (Teriinp, Of the Charnbcr, the I.),lrat,e,
in their bareattx, to et:l:hint the propis,iiitio:44 Math: br 411 e. •
Duplesiiis de Grenetla4 311t1 ill,botAltitlVlE4e. They vilaa *ori.l, a
follow
M. DUPLE:And rt °pore that 4.
llanaci be expellea fiern the (Iwnbet, ativortlay to ut
it.

N.I• de LABC,I)ADOSINAVE,--I Liar the honour to propo..t.-
the Chtanber, that iley late the right potsessed by every pvt—
tical body, of j's iging of the offences committed by one of it:
Membert in the exercise of it: functions, and in die Ant of
deliberation:, by e.xpellifig froth its beton-, )!7,11-4et, I)tr.t,
for La vender.
The Sattiar, et:mule:lsta ..t quarte: past el.:.
M. de taa':.aßE.Rßl real the pro:e3 ver!..:l/ of the SittiLs t"
yesterday. The most. not caber. preyaired. scsvx
was the reatlitietillistied, When At. liyde de .lenville clenisho
ed to be timid; told expresised iiirostlf as followm
Sng, of );eatertlay was irriporttrat : tO-day, it ahouid selecrih
and' worthy of yea ,• yeeterclay., we debated with extrema
; to-day, tientleinen let our delibetaticra I tri)4‘,:i..
ttit• te'. Co. the
t,tt
flert de rituvluxt zeiwritct We st;..
as justice-- se :04X0r.,ble the taw. :t ltatel.;Lit
thc prtots t.frbit4l. PFTCSActii 3,440.1 ilatt ;A:i
Lbe up. The birder raid; that the (itar,rnutertt
atrocious, arid upon the ditour4 of the patt true(.;t4iyi); fry
he explained what he mearit by the expression. Thal phrsae alt
Lot in the trocrs yert,ai, nee tne rtlertm words ITllinfraitce4 h
the Prciitient, Wlstri the Chamber interrupted the prat'rr.'
were as fOIIOW ;--" It is wigiCAlt DOlitte, the
krienticr zn wroch Hite crones•Arlt,iiit: of, tt :went whit 4 ;eat' so
litany tears to France, and which wal be to to.: isor:e of eter-
nal regret and trouble. f tiiczerqTe call vtati.", deritAcia
cOini9ied "M. Iyde de TituAllo that t'hes,' Avietrizi
the calling to order, be insarttill in tile proN,r
taw PIIEBIO/.14'1'. prora4dt;ed, it ttutt, the, iftqtiii
which M. H. tie Nowei.llc hos j t.c4;44tcc4; anti 1 rho ufht iE niy•
slaty to cAll the tantOr ; hut thCrit,
words earthot nave p.h4f ii,:1,4404;c44-; crti.tt;hecliv.at the ,73th
article of your regulations proldbits it. The Preilder.t read dt,
arbele.
M. ilirpr in Netivrt.hir..—?..-hte our rertliticrot AtAttiti
that the aolerrin worth e)tiYAl4,lO .446t.%ti uetriand it on be-
half of *a accused—(itirirnur: ort the, left).—uf toss insivite, if
yon_ peres is,
int
.PittotoZr47,-4:llie p,!4r„itee 'such 1 y ititortlay VC-
"Uncell WO U 9 other eibiect War; to ek.ll.to titd, r t tit strata:it whi:
wry, tot the racipext iu the TriLithe. 40 we eaurtetin4,l4he
call to order...we caorint of ottleat intart tt“. t st
actolUprOliett
Gn the Tigbk,,,Tiaat tros,-4-iat a true.
The procea-17er1J1 WAS atlopted.
The Pnraii)r tk,‘irkiiirdtAewi•Ye.:Af tt Vealit'g,:3l3
GI tint 04artiber (kl: the dkvekposactit
lerlt Ftl.iruiulr to tilt
M.- its 4111.4xmitt.—tpilehicji„,t vorttritry . the :et:s-
tation, ;4.,4l,ttnuidt cok r ~44-11.4rpon, N 174111.46 y, what
wan the order or tiltcusoeio, 4o otlitor we.. tti2 txhur,e
he 'PSIS 04,ziotiostAAA44.4444authrtwi,Liva loAk hartOefutr,he pp* tinio,h, 04:004tovis
V !it 4riirl.o#o49)otitatiot,l4 Sts4t with„.t yAstilie
the rep t iteoa wat rtrii.bskion: thrtt rrs4.a 441104541

'brit an assembly. The discussion of yestefday "WAS stifEcientlye
;important to be resumed to-day.
M. FORBIN D'ISSARTS.—Read the 39th Article of the Re.
gulations.
The President read title article,. and .cited precedents. He
.granted, in' consequence, the priority of speaking to M. de La..
'bourdonnaye.
M. de LAEOURDOWITATE ascended the' tribune. (Loud
exclamations on the left.) The President again referred to the
regulations which he had• read, and •to various precedents con.
netted with it.
M. DgerAaeav—Read with attention, Oendemen, the 40th
Article of the Regulations. It is asrfollows:—" Each Member,
after having read his proposition in the order of the inscription,
shall name the day when he intends.to speak upon it. On that
day he shandevelopethegrounds of his proposition, and lay be-
fore the Chamber all its results and bearings; and if the sub.
'`jest relate to a project-of law; conformably to Article' 19 of the'
ander, he shall point out what he thinks the Law ought to con.
gain." No day, has been fixed for the development of. M. de
' Labourdonnaye s proposition, consequently it cannot'be
•custied to-day. •
The PRESIDENT..—Since there -are some difficulties as to
the interpretation of the •Regtilation, ,I shall consult the
Chamber. .
On the lefteNoe no ; the regulation is definitive.
The PRESIDENT.--No, Gentlemen;; you have' precedents
• that prove the contrary. %%retire not considering a .project of
law, and whenever any difficulty arises, it is for the Chamber
alone to decide it.
CASISIFI-PEREIETI.—T demand to be heard upon the
Order of the Day. The President founds himself upon prece-
dents ; I rest upon the regulation itself. Read Chapter
Art. The President opens and announces the closing of
the aittings. He indicateteat the end of each, and alter baying
consulted the Chamber, the hour of opening at the next Session,
and the Order of the Day, -which shall be affixed to the walls."
'Yesterday the President, in closing the sitting in the midst of
tumult, did not put as the Order of the Day for the following
day, the proposition of Al. de LabOurdonnaye; that proposi-
tion makes no part of the Order of the Day placed upon the
walls. I demand, therefore, that the development of this pro.
position be postponed till to-mprrow: Ido this because it is of
the utmost importance that-we should maintain that tranquil-
dity it° neceesary to our deliberations, as has been observed by
Hyde de Nouville himself.
The PItESIDENT.—I shall put to the vote the motion of
M. Casimir Perrier.
On the left.—No, no, it is unnecessary. Theeregulation is .
decisive.
The PreSident insisted on putting it to the vote, and read
.the regulation upon thesubject.
On the right.—To the vote; to the vote. • 1
The proposition was then put, and rejected by a large ma-
ority,composed of the right, and of the right centre.
all. de hanounnuerhavt then addressedthe Chamber.—
' He said he hid never appeared before it under more trying
feelings ; never had he more sensibly felt'how difficult it was
to fulfil a rigorous duty than at that moment, when he stood in
the tribune to obtain reparation for a great offence. Ile would
not recall the expressions which had been used yesterday by an
orator, to remind them of a disastrous period of their history.
Often, before, that orator ought to have been called to order.
The expression of which he complained.was not eine that had
accidentally escaped ; but it formed pert of a speech, the whole
of which was criminal, full of pernicious doctrines, and tending
teethe justification of the most frightful crimes.
M. de Labourdonnaye finiihed, by submitting his proposi-
, thin, which were in these terms :—" You will remove from the
tribune him who, having been sent on the faith of his oath to
be a loyal and faithful deputy, and to obey the laws of the
kingdom, has never ascended it, but to attack them, and to
render them odious. Let him cease to be the representative of
the country for ever illustrious by the name of the classic land
• of fidelity ; since he has not feared to make in you? presence
an apology for regicide ; for that crime w!tich.roueing in a mo.
ment all La Vendie, produced an army of heroes. Let him
cease to be It Deputy; let him enjoy, on these.terms, for the
lust time, the inviolability which that title ensures him, and let
your decision remain for ever in your archives as a monument
to prevent the recurrence of similar attempts."
Seconded !" exclaimed a great number of voices.
M. MahnEL, in a very long speech, defended himself from
the imputation of advocating regiCide. He had expressed a
desire that Spain might be spared evils like those which had
stained England and France with blood. He said that it wax a
foreign invasion which had placed those whose fall was de-
plored, in so humble a position ; and that a foreign invasion was
now proposed to assist an august personage, who was preesimed
to be in siniotis• danger. The orator asked, what good faith
there was in accusing him of preaching the doctrine of regicide,
• when he was exhorting, the Chamber to prevent it ? There was
emir: difference of opinion whether he now used the words
" new forces," or " new forms." The journals had reported
diarently ; he did not think it of much Importance, but at all
he thought it must be evident thet'those words were the
peremisee of a proposition which he was not allowed to develops:.
tic was, he snail, more a Stronger to the revolution than many
of those who heard him ; his age had not Mims ed him to take
any part, except in the ranks of the army, where it' had been
4itid French honour took refuge—a compliment which he would
net accept for the army at the expence of the nation. French
honour was everywhere.—(liravos on the left.)—M. Manuel
said, his whole life was an answer to the reproaches made
. against him. Ile did not deny that he had sometimes shewn
great warmth, and that he sometimes used expressions which
might have escaped him, contrary to the decorum which ought
talk observed in the tribune; but., with respect to his thoughts,
he was far from retracting any thing he had said daring the
Sitting of yesterday, or any preceding one.
A fter :ionic further debate on the manner in which the question
should be put, it was at length decided, on the motion Of M..
LatinO, that the proposition should be referred to the Bureaux
to-morrow (the 28th.)
[From the Mordant. of Thursday.l
We yesterday received the folio wing letter from 31. Manuel :
"Sir—The President not having been able to read to the
Chamber the letter which I had the honour to write to him, I
beg that you will be so good as to publish it inyour Jottrnal.
" Feb. 20. Yours, &e. MANUEL."
" Mr. PR
IIBIDEN%!—The state of irritation in which a part
of this Chamber is at present placed, makes me fear that I
ua*' not be able to find in this sitting &moment of silence to Com-
-1:4014 the expression of an opinion which I hope will no longer,
?Meet with-any honest reprovers, when it shell be known such
as 1 Intended to utter it, such as It ought to have been presume
ed from what I had before said ; finally, as you yourself
Ould not without injustice blame, Verne had permitted rue upon
as upon a former occasion, to finish the whole phrase.
The Minister pretended to discover aground for war in the
necessity of preventing in Spain the occurrence of those ca.
testroplies which stained the English and French revoliations
whim blood. I replied that the means wHch he was adopting,
uppeased to be precisely those which were best calculated
to augment, instead of diminishing' the dangers which were,
supposed to menace au august personage; and in support
of my argument,, I referred to the events which had led to
the overthrow of the Stuarts, and the death of the unfortunate
Louis XVL
" I *liked whether it was forgotten that this' misfortune in
• France had been preceded by the armed interference cif the
Prussians and Austrians, and recalled to recollection, as a fact
-known to ail the world, that It was then that revolutionitete
Vance, feeling the necessity of defending herself by forces
( riotreeller .fercet) and energy;, •• 0. Here 1 was inter
Nested. If this had not happened, my sentence would have
been at follows :—" Then revolutionary France, feeling the
necessity of defending herself wilt new forces and energy,
set in moth* ail the masses, roused the popular passions, and
thus occasioned dreadful excuses, and a deplorable catastrophe
• in the midst of a noble eesistance."
" No pawn could be more prepared than I was lieforehand,
to give way to all the prejudiceeeihd 'Mit to the violence of a
Tut of the Monthere of this (:lambert whose principles and ef:
forts i have considered it toy duty strongly tp oppose, becauttee
believe in my soul and conscience, that those principles and-
.' carts compromise at once the'interexts of the throne and the
nation. But I ought not to bedeprived, by interruptions and
by ttutrinit, which you even considered inexcusable, of the
eight ofieeing heard before I =judged. inn resolyod that not
even malevolence shall beve it in its power to impute to me
the abeuril design of basely insulting, without motive, without
interst, the misfortunes of those august victimsewhose dentiny
aglicta all generous hearts. When I shall have spoken, I will
brave the judgment of passionate men, and I shall fearlessly
--await that of jug men.
" I have the honour to be, Mr. President, your very humble
• servant, " MAN UEL."
'SITTI)4I Ut witinav, FEL 28.
nothing important occurred at the Sitting this day. The
Deputies met early in their Bureaux, and elected a commission
to report on the piopotition for M. Mannel'e exclumion. A
public sitting; was afterwards opened to discuss the law Of the
war credit. M. Manuel demanded to be heard on a mener of
form. He was opposed by an explosion of fury from the right
side, and the President not being able to ream order, by either
voice, hammer, or bell, adjourned the Chamber till the follow.
ing day.

S.ITT/NO or SATyRITAY, MARCH 1.

The Sitting to-day was equally violent with that of the pre.
viunt days. M. de In Bourdonnaye presented the report of
~the
commistiun appointed to examine the proposition kn. excluding
M. Manuel. After a vicler t speechrin the sense of the report,
the report itself was road. It concluded thus .I.
The Cominhsion unanimously proposes to the Chamber
the expulslowof M. Manuel, on-oceount of the speech which
be delivered on the iGth of February, whereby he compromised

the honour of "his character of Deputy, arid the dignity of the
Chamber."

[ A good _dee! of agitation prevailed at the conclusion of this
speech and report. A discussion arose on the proper time for
taking the report into consideration, The members of the left
side demanded its adjournment till the question of the vote of
credit, already before the Chamber, was decided upon. •The
right side opposed this:delay, and demanded first a decision on
the report. At last it was agreed tharthe latter should' ave
the priority, and 'that the
,tlLeuision should commence on
Monday.
At four o'clock, the President announced to the Chamber
that the discussion was win resumed on the vote of credit,.
M. Manuel presented himself at the tribune' to conclude the
speech in which he was interrupted on Wednesday. A furious
uproar immediately commenced. The right side refused to,
hear him, and the President was obliged to adjourn the Cham-
ber till Monday. The discussion will then commence on his
exclusion, the report being ordered to ti taken into considera-
tion 9n that day. On leaving the Chamber, M. Manuel was
met by a crowd, who assembled to salute him. As he passed
the bridge, in front of the legislative palace, and proceeded to
the Place de Louis X V., tlit crowd increased, shouting, " Vive
Manuel." When they came opposite the great gate of the
garden of the Tuileries, the guard ordered it to be closed. No
disturbance of any kind happened.