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THE SUN, LONDON, FRID I V, JULY 21,

• enabled to effect any great good ; but although the society bad
done this, it had prevented many farmers from trusting to the
quackery of horse and cow doctors, who, from their deleterious
prescriptions, did so much mischief to the farmer,--(Bear.)
The Society, he was glad to say, had collected a mass of in-
formation of the highest importance; they had a report re-
specting the turnip fly, which showed the fallacy of the com-
mon ncticn that the fly existed in the seed. The fly was an
insect of hard skin ; it did not grow, and consequently
could not be formed in the seed. That report showed the
natural history of that species of fly. It was traced
through its different stages, and the best means were pointed
out to counteract the mischief it inflicted on the crop,
and perhaps eventually the society might be able to
point out means to check its ravages, for there were scientific
men in the society who were assisting in the iavestigation, and
they might depend upon it that effects would be produced of a
very beneficial character. He (Lord Spencer) prided himself in
t aving been ono of the first to recommend the formation of
the Royal Agricultural Society, and he bad every reason to do
so. when he saw the present meeting, and contemplated the
splendid assemblage he expected to witness the next day in the
pavilion. He should always have great pleasure in looking
back on that period of his life, and should feel the greatest
happiness in reflecting on the fact of his having been one of
the first promoters of that society. The Noble Lord con-
cluded amid loud cheers.

The CHAIRMAN then proposed the health of Mr. Smith, of
the Highland Agricultural Association of Scotland.

Mr, SMITH returned thanks:

Several other toasts were subsequently proposed, and the
meeting separated,

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EXPRESS FROM PARIS.

The Moniteur of yesterday announces the promotion to the
Peerage of Counts de Latour Maubourg, Moittesquion, and
Mathieu de la Redorte, of the Marquis de Labriar, Admiral
Macken, and M. Romequieras.
A telegraphic despatch from Toulouse, dated the 21st, stated
that all was quiet in that city, but that seditious symptoms had
manifested themselves at Auch, Cahors, and Montpelier.
Down to the departure of the mail on the 19th, nothing was
known respecting the measures about to be adopted by the ex-
traordinary Commissioner. M. Gaillard, the new Attorney-
General, took the oath of office, in presence of the King, on
Wednesday, and set out in the evening for Toulouse. M. De-
larralde, the Special Commissary of Police, arrived thither in
the morning of the 19th.
M. Maurice -Duval issued at Toulouse, on the 19th, the
following

THE BAJA OF SATTARA.

In our report of the day's day's debate at the India
House we weft linable to give the concluding remarks of
Mr. nompon. As we feel persuaded the ease we have
been the almost exclusive mer,ns of bringing so fully be-
fore the•public, will, at no distant clay, assume a feature
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of national importance, we insert tht t% heiusion of Mr.
Thompson's speech
h corrected version of Captain
Cogan's t

able Proprietor behind me
Mr. TuomPsost, in continuation, said—l must not
omit, to notice the compliment paid by the Henna=
(Mr: Fielden), to the perfect
disinterestedness of the Government, in the part they
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have taken against the ' aja. "They had nothing to
gain by the deposal of the Raja—nothing. Though they
deposed the Raja, they took neither hia silvers his ttld,
nor his jewels ; least, of all, did. they hilt at the eaten-
.!,ion of territory; fill~-it is his brother, Appa Sahib,
whom they hate
placed on the throne. What object,
then, beyond that .of- just retribution, had they to pro-
mote r All this sounds mighty well ; but, what is the
fact ? In the minute of Sir James Canute, dated Sep •
tember 4th, 1839, there are these remarkable and signifi-
cant words, distinctly , holding out the acquisition of
Sattara, as the certain reward of his deposal. Sir James,
expecting that his conduct, in not immediately annexing
the Sattara state, will be objected to by certain.members
of the Government, says that if he has erred, in at once
resuming the dominion of Sn nary., " the course, of events
"iii, it, a fl•I‘ seer::, til.iii.(l a fair opportunity of reeti:ying
v• lias, 1:la deel!ls_,:i erroneous." ".Neilbt i'," saY:, he,
' il:( Raja about to lx: deposed, tar his brother whi is t,,
bi,sul:stituied Iti his phice, have any childr. and ai;tl“-ii'
period of life it iA not very likely that they will hereaft, r
have any ; and I know of no other party who can plaiiii
the succession by hereditary right. It follows, therefore,
that on the demise of the new Baja, the Sattara State
would lapse to the British Government—(Cheers)—un-
less, indeed, it shall be judged expedient to allow this
line of Princes to be continued, by the Hindoo custom of
adoption, a question which should be left entirely open
for consideration when the event on which it depends
shall actually occur."—(Hear, hear, and cheers.) And
in the same minute he states his apprehension that, by a
pressure of circumstances, entirely beyond our control
(doubtless as these have been), the whole of the native
States of India are, perhaps, destined ultimately to fall
within the vortex of our rule.—(Hear, hear.) Here,
then, it is on record, that the acquisition of the Sat-
tara State was one of the governing influences which de-
termined the deposal of the Raja. He was childless, it
is true ; but he had the indisputable right to adopt.
His brother was also childless, with the certainty that,
no child would be born to him; to him the right of adop-
tion is denied, and upon his death (likely to be speedy
from his excesses) his territories lapse to the dominions
of these just, magnanimous, and, as they tell you, disin-
terested lords paramount of India—unless the fiat of
these master judges of expediency shall then decree
otherwise.; . What hope there is that they will so decree,
may be extracted from the fact that the acts of Sir James
Carnac received their " warm commendation." But the
fate of Sattara is not intended to be singular. The doom
of every other native state within the grasp of these lords
paramount, is already shadowed forth while they
tell you that this will be brought about by events
beyond their control. Here behold the history of
all the past annihilated Princes of India.—(Cheering.)
Sir, I must say. a word on the subject of the amnesty
offered the Raja, inasmuch as it has been held up in this
Court as an act of superlative generosity, calculated to
extort the admiration of all the members of this Court.
Let us look at that amnesty. Its preamble contains an
implication of the guilt of the Raja ; it sets forth that
he had been misled by evil advisers—had committed
a breach of the treaty—and had entered into communi-
cations hostile to the British Government ; and had there-
fore exposed himself to the sacrifice of the British alliance
and protection. Nevertheless, he was offered an act of
oblivion, and restoration to the confidence of the Govern-
ment, if he would sign certain articles with such a pre-
amble. Now, Sir, what is the-result of this attempt at
negotiation on the part of Sir James Carnac ? The
Raja declared his innocence, and expressed his determi-
nation never to sign any document which called in ques,
tion his grateful and loyal attachment to the British
Government. He nobly said to the Government, "You
present to me the alternative of subscribing my own guilt,
or giving up my throne and kingdom. I can sacrifice my
kingdom, but I will preserve my honour."—(Cheers.) He
had shown That these were no idle or vaunting words.
He had gone into exile, and I believe took with him a
pure, loyal, and honourable mind ; and I wish those who
have sent him there may realise as strong a conviction
of the uprightness of their conduct, as that which I be-
lieve eonsoles the Raja in his obscurity. But, Sir, sup-
pose the Raja had been the ungrateful, profligate, and
treasonous intriguer that he has been represented to be,
would he not have signed this memorandum, and, if ne-
cessary, five hundred more, and been a traitor still'? If
he had been for years before carrying on hostile machi-
nations against the Government, would he not have
readily, greedily have subscribed such conditions, with
such a preamble ? I assert it, in my eyes there is some-
thing of moral sublimity in the conduct of this Hindoo
Prince. There is a love of truth, a regard for honour, a
determination to cherish, under all threatened evils, the
testimony of an unaccusing conscience, which commands
my profound admiration, and makes me wish that the
example of this Indian might find many imita-
tors among his Christian rulers. But again,
Sir, if Sir James Rivet Carnac believed him guilty
of acts that deserved deposal, what right had he-
to compound with treason, and to offer this act of obli-
vion ? He either was innocent or guilty. If innocent,
he was entitled to sit upon the throne unimpeached ; if
guilty, or supposed to be guilty, he ought to have
been tried, and then, upon conviction, he would have
been displaced without sympathy, and the character
of the British Government would have been without sus-
picion and without disgrace. But it was not so ; he
was &lamed, not because he was guilty, but because he
asseverated his entire innocence, and demanded—what
English law grants to the meanest wretch accused of
crime—a full, an open, and an impartial trial. As to
the alleged treasonable intercourse with Goa, why,
henceforth if any Hon. Member desire to raise a smile at
the expense of the Government of India, he need but refer
to the supremely ridiculous story, that the Raja of Sattara
was engaged in a plot with the Portuguese Viceroy at Goa,
to annihilate the British power in .India. That Viceroy
is now at home. He fills a high office at the Court of
Lisbon, and is said to be related by blood to the reigning
Queen. A special mission was despatched to Lisbon to
investigate the charge in a personal interview with Don
Manoel de Castro, and I call upon a Gallant Friend pre-
sent to tell us during this debate what reception he met
with—to tell us whether the ex-Viceroy did not spurn the
imputation with indignant wa:aith, and declare the whole
a false and foul imputation for wicked purposes. But, Sir
this matter is not to be so dismisssed. I ask if, when
it came to the knowledge of the Indian Government
that this alleged correspondence had been carrying on
for years, and they professed to believe it, they took
measures to call the Viceroy to account, and, as in duty
bound, gave information to the British Government that
our Foreign Minister might take the steps demanded,
to demand explanation of the Portuguese Government, a
power in strict and friendly alliance ? Sir, I require to
know if down to this hour any step of the kind has
been taken ? And yet the Raja has been hurled like a
traitor from his throne, on the ground that he has, in
breach of treaty, and with the design of an enemy to the
British Government, conducted a correspondence with
Goa. Now, Sir, I place you, and those around you, in
this dilemma. Either you believed this, or you did, not:
If you did not, you cruelly, and without just cause, de-
posed the Rajah. If you did believe it, show us the
proof of your having seriously, or at all, represented the
case to the proper parties in this country ; or escape
from the charge of having concealed meditated treason
from your Queen and ber Ministers. Sir, if I know of

Ithite; aim we shall leave our successors to take care of
I themselves. Sir, this is neither honest nor loyal. This
Company are the stewards over a don am which they
arc bound to manage with all- the regard to its improve-
mcnt of which they • are capable. The- Company are
not the proprietors of India, India is the property of the
Crown and the nation, and should be managed for the be-
nefit, fist di the It:Lives Of the soil, and that for the adith-
tage of the entire population of the British empire. If
by acts of injustice and oppression you &donate the feel-
ings of the people, your tenure of possession will be tran-
sient ; and losing the hearts of the people, you
will next lute the country. you have taken from
them. But if you pursue a . different course, a
glorious and honourable career is before you. If
you take pity on the impoverished and often starving
natives of India) nnd when my Hone Friend .shall bring
forward his most important motion, shall take measures to
revise and equitably settle the system of land-taxa-
tion in your Indian territory ;—if you will apply
your means to the opening up of the infinitely varied
resources of the East to the unrestricted enterprise
of the people of this country, you will be honoured as
the instruments of bestowing boundless blessings both
upon the country ruled, and the people of the ruling State.
Finally, gentlemen, you may deny justice in this Court,
but there are higher Courts of appeal, and to those Courts
most assuredly the case will be carried. Mr. Burke ex-
pressed his thankfulness that the proceedings of this body
were, as they could not but be; under the control of Parlia-
l•rol. ;!:

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riim!!:11 don'y yon
oblig..d to reverse yourdeeision. The w hou ii 4
possession of the facts, will rise as one man, and demand
that the injustice perpetrated in their name shall be.re-
. paired. I beseech you, then, be wise in time. 'Let juS
tice be done here. If not convinced of the perfect inno
cence of the Raja, yet give-him the benefit of the doubt
of his guilt. 'Remember—
" To err is human, to forgive divine."
I claim not for the Raja exemption from the infirmities
common to our nature ; far from it. All I contend for
is the total insufficiency of what is called the evidence in
this case to sustain the charge of treason upon which you
have dethroned this Prince. Hasten, then, to retrace
your steps. What you do, do without compulsion, and
without delay. Do what you do graciously. Remember—
" The quality of mercy is not strained."
Be neither ashamed nor afraid to do right. Fear not
the consequences. You will be upheld, supported,
cheered onwards, and-eventually richly rewarded. But
if you resolutely persist in withholding reparation, then,
respectfully, but explicitly, I tell you that the year 1854
is coming ; and that when you sue for a new grant of
power, you will be told you have abused that which you
have already been intrusted with, and the empire you
have misgoverned will be transferred to other hands.
(The Hon. Proprietor concluded his speech amidst loud
cheers, having spoken nearly three hours.)
Captain COGAN rose and said, Mr. Chairman, I deem it
necessary to say a few words ere this debate closes. The
Deputy Chairman, on the first day's debate, laid much
stress on the alleged agents and agencies of the unfortu-
nate Raja, and quoted the number of lacs of rupees that
he had expended upon them. I now, Sir, find in these
secret papers my name coupled with 2,500 rupees (2501.).
In last year's debate I stated to this Court that I was
totally ignorant of this circumstance, except by rumour.
I however lost no time in obtaining information, through
the Raja's Vakeels in England, and I will now read you
a letter from the party who did get the 2,500 rupees,
which will satisfy: the Court that I have not quite made
my fortune in the robbery of the Raja.—(Cheers.)
" A letter from Htirmunt Row Goonajee, to the Vakeels
of his Highness, the ex-Raja of Sattara, in England ;
dated Bombay, 31st December, 1841..
" I have received your letter, dated England, 4th
November, 1840, stating that I had sent for the sum of
2,500 rupees for Ca.)tain Cogan, from his Highness at
Sattara, and the letters which I had written had gone
from Sattara to the East India House, and became
known to Captain Cogan, who desired you to write to
me respecting it.
" I now inform you, that at the first interview I had
with Captain Cogan in Bombay, I implored him to assist
in the matter of his Highnes.
" Then Captain Cogan :replied that the Governor,
who is coming to India, is a good man, and well ac-
quainted. with the Indian affairs, and who, no doubt,
will listen to both parties and judge whatever is true,
and I said that the officers of the Indian Government
have broken the friendship between the two Govern-
ments, by deciding ex parte, but Captain Cogan said the
new Governor will not do so. Then Captain Cogan
proceeded to Arbustan or Persian Gulf.
" I communicated this affair to his Highness at Sat-
tara, after which the Governor soon arrived at Bombay.
Twenty days after the Governor's arrival, Captain
Cogan returned from Arbustan, when I had an inter-
view with him, and acquainted him that the Governor
intended visiting Sattara ; therefore, I requested him to
accompany the Governor to Sattara, then he replied, if
the Governor will permit me I have no objection: ac-
cordingly I wrote to his Highness, who then addressed
a letter to Captain Cogan. The contents of that letter
were, that Captain Cogan should visit Sattara, with the
permission of the Governor ; this letter Captain Cogan
represented to the Governor. •
" I considered that if the Governor will consent to
Captain Cogan's visiting Sattara, then he will require
his travelling expenses. I thought it was not proper he
should expend his own money upon his Highness's busi-
ness, therefore, I inquired of Captain Cogan about his
travelling expenses, who replied, if I should visit Sattara,
11 will expend my own money, I dO not require any
from you.
" Accordingly I wrote a complimentary letter to his
highness explaining the above interview, and recOsed
a draft of 2,500 rupees from Ihirryrajarara of Sattara,
upon Morotum 13alinuelitind of Bombay. I wrote for
this money to maintain the respect of his Highness ; I
thought it was not proper to let Captain Cogan expend
his own money upon his Highness s business, and as
Captain Cogan was not permitted to visit Sattara, I never
offered him any sum.
" The Governor went to Poonah, and after five or six
days Captain Cogan went there ; then I considered per-
haps that the Governor will consent to Captain Cogan's
visiting Sattara, therefore I thought of going there, and
for my own expense I received 200 rupees from the sum,
passing a receipt ; but I being confined with fever, was
prevented going to Poonah, therefore I deputed Ramrow
Vissram, the Karkoon of. his Highness, to Poonah, and
gave far his expense 100 rupees from the sum I received,
and the remainder 100 I used to my own expense, and
the remainder sum of 2,300 rupees is deposited with the
banker, of which you can inquire.
" Accordinglo my letter to his Highness, stating about
the expenses, I received the draft of 2,soo.lapees, but
afterwards his Highness being dethroned and sent to
Limbgaum, where he was placed in strict imprisonment,
where nobody was allowed to go nor to receive,any letter,
so I could not inform his Highness of the result, therefore
his Highness must be unacquainted with this affair,, nor
can I say whether his Highness, after reaching Benares,
was made acquainted with the particulars of this matter.
"All these five paragraphs are written in the spirit of
truth."

Now, Sir, here is the original ; I would recommend its
being sent back to India, in order that it be tested by
the keen-sighted and impartial Messrs. Ovans and Wil-
loughby. The most unjustifiable motives ha ve been attribut-
ed to Dr. Milne for assisting the unfortunate Raja.' I come
not here to defend Dr. Milne. He can well defend him-
self ; but this much I must say-Is it liitely that one of
your old and highly respectable servants, who has him-
self established, and still supports, a charity school in
the village in which he was born in Scotland, would co-
vertly rob the Raja ? Sir, this fact is an answer to any-
thing thyt has been said on the subject.—(Applausio
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