The Sun.
London, England, 1823-02-11 00:00:00

lIOLTSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. HUTCHIX9OII, from the Bank of England, presented
certain Papers relating to the Correspondence and Transactions
between the Bank and the Treasury-I
—Ordered to he on the
table.

A new Writ was ordered for Winchester in the root of Mr.
Leigh, who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds.
Mr. LITTLETON presented a Petition from the Stafford-
shire Potteries for the establishment of a Small Debt Court in
that district.

NEW_PARRIAGE ACT.
Admiral SOTHERON -presented two Petitions- from the
Vicar-General and Officials of the peculiar jurisdiction of the
Church of the Blessed Mary, of Southwell, and from the Chap.
ter of that Church, against the'lato Marriage Act, which took
away the privilege of granting marriage licenses from 'Jurisdic-
tions of that description.
Mr. CURTEIS -presented a similar Petition from the per-
sons interested: in the peculiar jurisdiction of the Church of
Battle, in Sussex.. He wished to know from the Learned Au-
thor of the Marriage Act, whether the clause objetted to was
to be repealed?
Dr. PHILLINfORE said, that the cinese in question. like
.many others, had been introduced without any participation of
his. It had been added by the Lords, on account of some al-
leged itninopriety in the exercise of tbe privileges of those pe-
culiar jurisdictions. Of course, he could not say whether it
would be permitted to continue part of the law ; and his own
opinion, whether it was the proper remedy for the evils corn-
plained of, he should beg leave to defer for the present.

INSOLVENT' DEBTORS' ACT. '
Mr. R. SMITH presented a Petition from the :Merchants,
Traders, , and others, of Lincoln, against the. insolvent Act.
After speaking to the respectability of the Petitioners, and some of the well known recta as to the operation.
of the Act, the'llon. Illember expressed hi. conviction of the'
propriety of some change in the law, which, whild'it did not
leave the debtor altogether at the mercy of the creditor,, should
take aw from him the Absolute independence on his credi.
tor's gooa will which he now enjoyed.
Mt.'III.7RST supported the existing kW, as teriding to re=
strata the practice of ranting credit rashly.
Mr. J. WILMA AIS supported the prayer of the Petition',
and observed. that Insolvent Act, as it now stood, was a
favourite with all the knaves of the country. fie suggested a
medium between the severity of the ancient and the entire in-
elliciuncy of the present law.
mi, LaTLk.,ToN suggested the power of awarding iM-
prisonment proportioned to the amount of debts above the assets
°fin insolvent.
Mr. T. WILSON and Mr. Alderman WOOD Spoke briefly
and gestrally in favour of some modification of the existing law. The petition *as 'ordered to be printed. , •
Mr. LITTLETON presented two Petitions 'against the
Clause of the Marriage Act which confined the power of
granting licences to the Bishops and Archbishops • from the
Heath and Chapter of Lichfield, and from Sir J. NVrottesiev
proprietor of a CliapFiry, with peculiar jurisdiction, In Suit':
tbrdshire. Peculiar Nristiictionm were now .in this situation,
that 'as Archbishops and Ilishops were' restrained from inter-
fering from them by law., and as none but Archbishops "and
ilishOpseould now grant licences, no marriage could be celc.
brated in-them by licence at all. Laid on the Table.
roriEroN TRADE.:'
llr. WALLACE (rave notiee th-t he would on'Wednesditl
move to revive the Cotnnittee on rorcip Trade.
On the motion of Mr. Aldcrmar.
ordered. Of the numbt:r of acres under culthlttion of bops' in
•1522.

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IRISH TITHES.
Sir IL PARNELL rose to present a petition, tlom the No-
bility, Geotry, and Freeholders or. the Queen's County, in
Ireland, praying for a Com Mutation of Tithes, and ,xereste;el
a hope that the expeetationS excited •by the ellusions in the
o
Speech of his Majesty, to measures
,of internal reknittti ri far
the improvement of Trelund, would not h.; disappoint . He
was gratified to hear that (t. measure on the Subject of titv es was
now under the consideration 61' the Nil leine:i who was at the
bead of aflitirs in Ireland, arid if it succeteded as a remedy -the the-
evils of the tithe-system, he would be entitled to tank among
the greatest benefactors of that country. With respect to that
Nobleman (the Marquis "Wellesley), he should say that the
police Act, and other- measures winch he had introduced, were
attended with very goixl effects, and likelya
to
load to rapid
change in Ireland. The Clergy were the party above all others
interested in a treasure for the conputution of tithes, and he
hoped they, the Itishops in particular, would lend nil. their aid
to its accomplishment. Meantime, if the report was true that
the Irish, Government was about to bring forward any measure,
he hoped his Hop. Friend, the Alember for Montrese (Mr. •
Hume) would postpJhe the motion of wbitill• he had given
notice, till he saw what this new measure wait.
Colond TRENCH said the sentiments of the Petition were
judicious and temperate, and came from a set of Gentlemen en.
titled to the utmost attention. He was happy to hear that a
Measure was at lust to be brought forward front a quarter which,
would give a chance of success in remedying the evils of rt.
system which was as injurious to the Protestant Establishment,
as it wes oppressive to the Catholic.
M. V. FITZGERALD W:t4 instrncted by tlit:, Grand .Jury.
of the County of Clare to support the Petition. Fie thought
the general declaration of the utter inanity of the measure pro.
due.ed in the last Session.had produced the bappiest effect in ex-
citing-the great majority of the Nobility and Gentry of Ireland
to come forward on this question. He wished to know from his
Right Honourable Friend (Mr. iioulburn) whether. the Irish
Government had any effectual measure in contemplation on this
subject ?
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tIOULBL'ItN did not agree in the terms which had
been applied to the Measure passed last Session. lid had no
hesitation, however, iu saying, as the evils arising from die col-
lection of Tittles bad engaged the attention of the Irish Govern-
ment from the first hour of their Administration, &measure on
the.sukieet was at the present moment in a very forward state,
and he should speedily give notice of its prodoction.
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Mr. S. RICE said, that as to the measure of the last Ser.;
sion, a nioreinefficient Anne, for the pusutpf.irciirtntwprasoii,lfteonf
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answer, never was broughtforwartl, a
would be, that not single kale of' tithes would be tbund to be
granted under it from one end of :Ireland to another...--( flea?,
hear it was not intended to proPot'e something very L diffe-
rent from it, or if they had nothing to depend on but the vety
vague declaration of the Might Hon. SeerTrar, Y (Mr. Ouulburn)
he should be sorry to tind his flan. Friehn (Ait...klume) induced
to postpone his motion. . lie wished to hear something like a
descriptidn of the neasurc intended. -
Mr. PEEL said, that 'was a subject on Which temper and
discretion were especially necessary. lif.ePPealed to the House
whether it was usual; at such a stage of the btisiness,. to give a
more explicit decl oration. than his-Itlgh t Bon,Exjcpti had given,
and whether partial tbrutils were riot 4e3Y to Fre,ptdicefair

cussion. His Right Hon. Friend had stated that a measure on
the subject would be submitted to the House, and .he (Mr. P.)
would add, that it would be submitted in time to allow the Hon.
Member for Montrose an opportunity susbsequently to mince
any measure hemighe think fit.
Mr. HUME recollected, that in postponing a notice he had
formerly given, he had done it with the understanding.that the
Government would introduce a special measure;, and was now
surprised that the Secretary of State for the Home Department
should object to the warmth of his (Mr. Hume's) Honourable
Friend iMr. Rice). Was there not reason for warmth its the
dilatory conduct of Government ?—.of those Ministers who
had been in possessibn of the government for 25 years? The
Right Hon. Secretary spoke of moderation, but did he propose'
any measure to remedy the evils of Ireland ? The state of Tithes
and of the Church of Ireland was one cause of all the evils of
that unfortunate country, and of the burdens of taxation impos-
ed on this country. Was not this state of things, for which the
Government had never thought of finding a remedy, a proof of
neglect ? And was it not extraordinary that the Hon. Secretary'
should ask or expect a motion on these subjects to he.postpon.
ed ? Dom he intend to commute tithes for an =table assess.
meet—to take a‘sixtli from the produce of the land to buy
up the tither? "Ile, for one, would never consent; and the
House should never consent, to levy a tax of one shilling to
add to the wealth of the Church. When a man had straight
forward intentions, and knew what lie was about, it was
easy for. hilt to express what he meant to do. He would
state what he meant to submit to the House. He would
propose then, first, a Resolution to express that the Church
property of Ireland, which was in the possession of Bishops,
Deans and Chapters. was much too large ; and he should then
subMit, in the second place, that instead of absentee clergymen,
with 2,0901. or 3;000/. per year, and starving curates, that every
clergyman should have a sufficient income to support him
respectably. He (Mr. H.) would undertake to shew, that if
the Church property of Ireland were properly let, it would pro-
duce three or four millions a year, and that this might, abo.
lishing tithes altogether, go to a general fund, which would
pay all the clergymen, so as to allow them to live like Gentle.
tlemen, and make them useful. He would call on the House
to declare whether church property is not property set aside by
the State for the support of religion, and whether, under that
point Of view, it is not the duty of the State to appropriate it in
such a manner as will most
.promote, this object ? The anti.
quity of its present distribution was the reason urged for not
meddling with it ; but this was no reason at all. The present
Ministry, however, he considered as quite incapable of attend-
ing to the interests of the country. and they had shewn them-
selves in their whole conduct, with regard to Ireland, too im-
becile to allow any man to place confidence in them. Mr.
Hume sat down in refusing to postpone his notice.
Mr. PEEL added, that probably the present week would not
elapse without a specific day being fixed for the introduction
of the measure:

Mr. SPRING RICE had heard the present discussion with
some satisfaction, as it had elicited from the Honourable Secre-
tary opposite the explanation he wanted. Before the word com-
mutation had not been mentioned, but he now understood the
Government to have given a distinct pledge to propose a com-
mutation. " '

Mr. GOULI3URN, in explanation, said, the scheme under
contemplation ltad for its object both a composition arid corn.
mutation of tithes.

Mr. VESEY FITZGERALD expressed his satisfaction
that a stronger measure was now to be brought forward than
that introduced last Session.

A new Writ was ordered for the C,onnty of Fermanagh.
SCOTCH REPRESENTATION.
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Lord A. HAMILTON rose to correct a mistake which had
occurred respecting his Motion on this subject. His notice
Was given for the 11th of March, and.not the Ilth ofFebruary,
as has been stated in some of the newsp4pers.
ADDRESS TO HIS MAJESTY.
Mr. Secretary ,PEEL appeßied at the Bar, and brought up
his Majesty's Answer to the Address of the House on his Ma-
jetitVl6 Speechat the opening of the Parliament. It expressed
his Majesty's thanks for theloyal Address of his faithful Com-
mons ; and assured the House that no object was, or ever will
be, so near to his heart as the prosperity and happineis of his
people.—The Answer was ordered to he entered on the Journals.
Mr. GRENFE LI, moved for an account of the number of
Bank Notes and Bank Post Bills in circulation since July last.
—Ordered.