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fairs of Ireland with more ability and integrity than the pre••
sent Government. The Right lion. secretary, with reference
to the subject of debate, was disposed to congratulate the
House on their,escape from what he considered a perilous dib-
e►tßsion, likely 'to excite animosity ; but which, from the tem-
, per then apparent, would lead to a d►fferent result. The Hon.
and Learned Gentlemen had been informed by his Right Hon.
Friend, that the measure. required to be brought in, was re-
solved on before the present motion was announced.; but.al-
- though it, was desired by Government, it was considered best
to defer it until heat and animosity subsided. The' Govern-
.. ment entertained the hope of seeing very soon, some symptoms
of abatement. The discussion which had taken place that night
would lead the Hon. and Learned Gentlemen to believe the in-
• tended measure would give him satisfaction, and perhaps be an
inducement not to press the motion to a vote. If this discus-
. .sion should, end in the temper in which it was likely to end, and
the Ron. and Learned Gentleman withdrew his motion, the
,-House would get rid of a conflict which none could wish to see

Mr. ABERCROMBY, in reply, said, if the Right Hon.
Gentleman entertained all the feeling he had expressed with re-
spect to the discussion, he could assure him it had been in his
power and the power of any of hisllaj.estY's Ministers to arrest
the discussion. if any of his Majesty's Government had
communicated, before the discussion that which had since

occurred, the Hume would have spared what he. had been
under the necessity of Stating. The principle object he had in
view was to procure, a law with respect. to secret so-
' ' cieties and oaths, and in case he had been informed,
it was the intention of his Majesty's Ministers to intro-
duce a Bill, which he understood they would bring in early
after the recess, be never should have made the motion.
The Right Honourable Secretary for the home Department
mace a wrong statement of his feelings, if he supposed he (Mr.
• Abercromby) was capable of making a contest when he had ac.
complished his object. His desire was, that the law should be ef.fectual in its operation against Secret Societies bound together
by unlawhil oaths. In all he had expressed on the subject, he
bad the satisfaction of receiving the concurrence of the Right
Hon. Secretary. Ile was quite persuaded the points he had
brought forward were not so much the subject of legislation
as of Ministerial influence. He trusted their influence would
• be exerted when it was known there had been an opinion in
the House against such Societies. Although he should readily
relinquish his motion, he could not feel he was not justified in
making it: He was assured the effect of this discussion would
• give • satisfaction to a large portion of the community of
Ireland. Having obtained whatever object be had in view
by making the motion, he wished, with the concurrence
of the House to withdraw it. The Right Honourable
Secretary considered it right for men to be united in the same
Cabinet who differed on so grave a question, but-he could not
feel that such a Cabinet could have the confidence of the coun-
try. Ile was hound tobelieve one who said the Catholic Ques-
tion was one of thegreatest importance to Ireland. lie was also
called upon to believe another Cabinet Minister, who said con-
cessions of the Catholic Question would be subversive of the
Constitution. How such men could hive the confidence of the
country lie could not say.
Mr. CANNING explained—He had only referred to the
" historical recollections" of former Cabinets.--(A laugh.)
The lion. and Learned Mover was then permitted to with-
slraw his motion.
CHARITABLE SOCIETIES (IRELAND.)
Mr. B..RICE deferred his motion to amend an Act for the
Establishment of Charitable Local Societies in Ireland, to a
future day.
MILITARY OUTRAGE OF DUBLIN.

Mr. ELLIS had given notice that he would on this night
move for papers in the possession of the Irish Government, re-
-1 ting.to a military outrage at Dublin on the 28th of November
last.—The name of the Hon. and Learned Member was fre-
quently called on by the Speaker, but Mr. Ellis did not declare
his intention either of abandoning or adhering to the call for
information upon this subject.
The House adjourned, on Mr. LUSHINGTON*2 motion, at
Half-past EleVen o'Cloelc•

POPISH INTER FKItENCE
At the Late ELECTION Ar DUBLIN COUNTY.

I Eatract from the Petition against Lids Return, from the Votes
of the House of Commons, Feb. 25, 1823, page 60.1
"That several of the Clergy of the Roman CathOlic per.
suasion, in divers parts of said County, acting in some cases
under the directions of their superior Clergy, were amongst
• the most sealous agents of said Lientenant-Colonel White,
and were particularly active in endeavouring to procure his re-
turn, and :to defeat said Sir COmpton Domvile ; and several of
said Clergy did make use of the influence they possess, by means
• of the rites and tenets of their religion, over the consciences of
their flocks, in order to induce Freeholders to vote for said
Lieutenant-Colonel White, or to withhold their votes from
said Sir Compton Domvile, and did threaten such Roman Ca-
' tholie Freeholders as should vote for said Sir Compton Domvile
"with the penalties of excommunication', and did represent to
such Freeholders that said Sir Compton Domvile was an ene-
my to their religion, and that to vote for said Sir Compton
Dionvilc would be an impious act, and an offence against reli.
glen, and did from the altars of their chapels harangue the
congrer.!ations assembled for public worship, and did permit
and stiffer said Lieutenant-Colonel White, and his friends and
agents, from the same place to harangue said congregations
to the like effect ; and soma of said Clergy did attend at or
near the Polling-booths during said Election, and did then and
there interfere with the Roman Catholic Freeholders about to
give their votes for said Sir Compton Domvile, and did en.
devour to practice and work, and did practice and work, upon
their superstitious fears, to induce them not to vote for said Sir
• -Compton Domvile; and by such undue unworthy, and un-
, .eonstitutional means, the freedom of election was violated,
and many of the said Roman Catholic Freeholders were in-
'feint:need to give their votes to said Lieutenant-Colonel White,
and many others to Withhold their Votes, and to refuse to vote
for Sir Compton Domvile."