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London, England, 1840-07-04 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PA IMAM EN T.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Jur.r 3.
The Royal Assetit wai given by Commi46ion to the 11)1-
lowincr Bills :
The' Sugar Duties BM ; the Timber Duties Bill ; the
Glans Duties Bill; the Prisons Act Amendment Bill; the
Frivolous Suits Bill ; the Rating of Tenements Bill ; the
Colonial Passengers' Bit; the Ayr Waterworks Bill; the
G!asgow Poor-rates Bill; the Scotch and lush Poor-rates
Bill ; and several other Bills.
The Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the
Archbishop of Canterbury, rnd the Earl Clarendon.
The LORD CHANCELLOR resumed his seat on the Wool-
sack at Eve o'Clock. _

The Earl of ROSEBE RY presented a petition from
the Presbytery of S:rathbogie, praying the House to take
such measures as they msv deem necessary fur the protec-
tion of the rights of the Church of Scotland.
The Earl of ABE RDE Laid, they did not come to
this House as petitioner, but rather as negotiators with
the Legislature. He denied that the petition was sanctioned
by the Goneral Assembly.
Lord R A VENSWORTH presented a petition, but
from the ow tone in which the Noble Lord spoke, we
could not hear from what place, or for what object.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from three
individuals in favour of the Chimney Sweeper.' Bill.

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The Marquis of NORMANDY said he was not aware of
any instance in which the Pt.o--1-iw C:.rrunisionerA had
nut recorded fads submitted t their notice. a,,d he thought
if there had been tileh they wouid hate been brought under
the notice of tee F once.
The E al of G LENGA LL said the present mode of ad-
minialering the l'o T-laws in Ireland icgoi;ed
• After a few words from the Marci,is of Norroar.by, the
Earl of Fingal!, and the Marquis of Westmeath, the mo-
tion was withdrawn.
The Huse then adjourned at Half--ast Eight.

Also, another from a large meeting held at •Montr,.se,
signed by the Chairman and the greater number of them,
praying that all persons confined for political offences,
be released from co.,finement (as we understood);
and a petition from an int.;ividual named Crabtree, at
present confined in Wakefield gaol, for having attended
a seditious meeting, complaining of severity of treat-
ment, and praying for a mitigation of punishment.
This petition had been sent to him (Lord Brougham) by
a person not prone to believe such statements, and though
he (Lord Brougham) could scarcely believe them, lie fzlt
it to be his duty to present the twtit;on.
The Marquis of NORNI A NBY sad he would imme-
diately make inquiries into the truth of the allegations in
the petition.
Lord BROUGHAM also presented a petition from
Bridgewater against the Corn-laws.
HEALTH IN SCOTLAND.

The Earl of HA DDI NG TON understood from the pub-
lic newspapers that the English Poor-law Commissioners
had receved instructions to examine in a similar manner
to that which had been done in Eugland, into he causes
of disease among the poorer classes in the various towns in
Scotland, and the best modes of preventing it. Now
though he thought this a very desirable inquiry, he aid
net think the English Poor-law Cammissinners the proper
rerzons to whom it should be intrusted. He moreover
thought an inquiry in Glasgow and EJinburgh

would be sufficient for the purpose. He, moreover,
thought it would excite in Scotland a feelin2- of apprehen-
sion that the G.oernment were ab.;ut to interfere with the
Scotch system of Poor-laws. He, therefore, asked whether

instructions had been sent, and what those instructions
were, and whether the Commissioners had any power to
inquire into the working of the S,!otch Poor-law system?
The Marquis of NORM ANBY explained the circum-
stances attending the origin of the inquiry in England.
and s,id it had been requested by the Town Council of
Edir,burgh, that the Commission should extend to
Scotland, and shortly afterwards a petition to the
53111 C effCet came from Glasgow, upon which he (Lord
Normanby) thought there really was a desire that
the inquiry should be extended to that country, upon which
he was induced to extend it. It was not intended that the
inquiry sh:;uld be at all connected with the Poor-laws.
There was no doubt instructions had been issued from the
Treasury, and he trusted the result of the inquiry would be
as productive of benefit to Scotland as it Lad been to Eng-
land.

110 USE OF COMMONS, JULY 3.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes before
Four o'Clock.
ROYAL COMMISSION.
The House was summoned by the Yeoman and Usher
of the Black Rod to attend the House of Lords to hear
the Royal Assent given to certain Bills (for which see
Lords' Repo-t).
On the return of the SPEAKER he enumerated the Bills
which had received the Royal itsent.
FARNHANI RECTORY AND CHAPELS BILL.
On the reading of the Order of the Day for the second
reading of the Farnham Rectory and Chapels Bill.
Captain PE C ELL said be had a petition to present
againt the Bill. The object of that Bill was to compel
the proprietors of estates in the parish of Farnham to con.
tribute to the expenses of six or seven parishes in the
neighbourhood. The Bill would certainly be advantageous
to the Bishop of Winchester and the Archdeacon cf.
Surrey, but it would be injurious and unjust to the
lessees who held under the Church of Farnham. It was
not a proper measure for that H.,use to entertain. The
objects were such as ought to be comprehended in a gene.
rat Bill. In the absence of is Hut. Friend (Mr. Ag.
fionby,) he had no other course left than to move as an
amendment that the Bill be read a second time this day
six months, unless the Right Hon. Baronet would consent
to postpone the measure until his Hon. Friend should 11.1
able to attend in his place.

Sir R. H. ING LIS couldiee no reason for the post-
ponement of tit,. Bill, and he should Oppose the amendment.
Mr. HAWES supported the amendment, and denied
that the Archdeacon of Surrey made any sacrifice in his
acquiescence in the Bill.
Mr. G 0 ULBU N supported the Bill.
Mr. I'. DUN COMBE contended that this Bill ought
not to be introduced as a private Bill. It was a Bill to
regulate church pr perty, which he held to be public pro-
perty —(Cheers.) Hon. Members might just as well call
the Ecelesias,ical Courts Bill a private Bid as this mea-
sure.—( Hear. hear.) He opposed fire seclnd revling.
Mr. JERVIS opposed the second reading of the Bill.
He said it would opt rate with great injustice to the pre-
sent lessees, who had paid large awns for their leases upon
the faith and understanding that their leases would 1),! re-
newed. Without at all impugning the motives of those
who introduced the Bill, he must say that it was a dan-
gerous if not a pernicious measure.
-• Mr. WARBURTON would put it to the good nature
of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Oxford Uni-
versity. that he would not press the second reading of the
Bill in the absence of the Hon. Member for Cocker-
mocth, who was prevented from attending in his place by
a domestic afletien.—( Hear, h..ar.)
Sir H. VERNEY supported the second reading of the
Bill.

Mr. HUME agreed with his Hon. Friend, the Member

for Finsbury, that this was as much a public Bill as the
Ecclesiastical Revenues Bill, and ought to be dealt with
in the same way. He wished the Speaker would favour
the House by explaining why this Bill was brougLt for-
ward as a private Bill ?
The SPEAKER said that when the Bill first came
down to the House it came as a public Bill ; but when Ilk
attention was brought to it,he perceived that it was decidedly
a Bill of a local character, relating ac it did to the parson-
age and chapels.—( Hear, hear.) The only clauses which
were of a public nature were those that related to fees.
Mr. BAINES had received a letter from Farnham,
which stated that the ebanks of the iahabitauts were due

The Earl of H ADD INGTON said it was very satis-
factory to him to hear this Commission was not to tamper-
at alt with the Scotch Ponr-laws. It appeared to him
that the known cleanliness of the Scotch character rendered
such an inquiry less necessary in that country than in many
others.
After a few words from the Earl of ROSEBERY, the
conversation dropped.
The Earl of G L ENG AL L presented petitions from
Ireland, praying for certain alterations in the Irish Poor-
law Act.
Lord PORTMAN presented a petition from Bury St.
Edmunds, praying for the abolition of Church-rates; also
a petition from Mr. A. Lamb, of Portland, praying. the
House to address her Maj ,sty to erect a break-water in
Portland roads. The Nolde Lord recommended the latter
petition to the seriou-1 attention of their Lordships.
The E:rl of M INTO said, without expressing any
opinion on the subject, the petition should receive the best
consideration of the Government.
The Earl of FALMOUTH thought a breakwater was
equally needed at Falmouth.
ADMIRALTY COURTS BILL

to the Bishop of Winchester for introducing the Bill, lie
was glad to have that opportunity of bearing testimony to
the sati,faction of the people in a case in which a Bishop
was concerned, as he was sometimes blamed fur having a
prejndice against the Bishops.--( Hear, and a laugh.)
Captain PECHELL said that he did not wish the BM
to be withdrawn altogether. He only wished it to stand
over until his Hon. Friend the Mernba for Cockerinouth,
was ab:e to attend in his place.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, bat the
House did not divide.

On our readmission to the gallery, we found
Mr. HUME addressing the House. He said that ho
thought the alteration proposed by the 1311 was a fit and
proper alteration; but he objected to the mode in which it
was attempted to be made. This was an att mpt to dis-
pose of public property under a private Bill, and it was
the first instance that he had ever known in which public
property was attempted to be disposed of by a private Bill.
Lord ING E ST RIE said that the Speaker had already

The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the House
should go into Committee on the Admiralty Courts Bill.
The Noble and Learned Lord trusted that no opposition
would bo offered to proceeding farther with the Bill, as
the objectionable clauses in it. had been removed rmee..i.t..-
had last come unier their Lordship's consideration.
Lord BROUGHAM said, that since the Bill had last
been before their Lordships, the most objectionable clause
had certainly been removed by a vote in the House of
Commons, ordering that no Judge of the Admiralty should
hereafter have a seat in that House. He trusted that the
flame rule would be extended to every judicial officer. He
still objected, however, to the patronage given by the Bill.
He would as soon see tl.e patronage altogether vested in
the Judge, as that he should retain that portion of i; that
he would hold in connection with the Executive Govern-
ment, which, in other times, and with other Judges, might
give rise to great inelnvenience. With the present
Judge he knew that that could never arise, but they should
remembcr what might occur in times to conic with other.
Judges and other Governments. He should wish to see
the prohibition against Judges sitting in Parliament ex-
tended to all cases, and he must protest against granting
to the Judge the exercise of any patronage.
The Bill then passed through Committee.
CHIMNEY-SWEEPERS BILL.

decided the question.
Mr. HUME said the Noble Lord was totally
ignorant of the roues of the House, or be would not
have interrupted him (Mr. flume) He (Mr. Hume)
aas only arguing the question as to whether the Speaker's
...opitileitoriam riga or eivong,.aad .fta ♦he Noble Lord had
found f.tult with him
.fur doing so, perhaps he vould Inform
him what the rules of the House really were. His object
was to ascertain how a Bi.l could be both a public and a
private Bill.
Lord DUNGANNON rwe to order. Hr said it ap-
peared to him a vet), extraordinary and highly irregular
course for any Hon. Member to argue a point decided by
the Chair.

The Marquis of NOR MANB Y fixed Monday next for
proceeding with the Chimney-Sweepers Bill.
POOR-LAW GUARDIANS (IRELAND).
The Marquis of WESTMEATH said that he was
sensible the subject to which he was about to direct their
Lordships' attention was an everyday ono, and therefore
he would be as short as possible. He had all aloog been
opposed to tile introduction of the Poor-law into 'lreland,
and had, in consequence, been accused of selfish views on
the subject; but h could assure their Lordships that
neither nimaelf nor the landed proprietors of Ireland were
actuated by such views, hut that they thought and believed
that it would fail in its object, and hitherto, he was sorry
to say, they had been true prophets. In almost all in-
stances the Roman Catholic priests had interfered with
great violence in the election of guardiacs, with a view of
compelling the election of their own partisans in opposition
to the landed proprietors. In some cases they had actu-
ally horsewhipped persons, in others they had gone about
with mobs, forcing.the electors to fill up voting papers,
and been guilty of such violence, that had not the
people, more to the credit of their hearts than their un-
derstandings, abstained, on account of the sanctity
of their character, from prosecuting them, they
must have been made amenable to the laws.—
( Hear, bear.) In some instances they had substituted
forged voting papers, and in others they had b?en guilty
of violence in the open Court. In Cork, in Dublin, in
Longford, and other places, occurrences of a similar nature
had taken place. The Noble Marquis complained of the
conduct of Mr. O'Connell, the returning officer of a Union
in the county of Clare, who recommended the rate-payers
to elect those persons only who were approved of by the
priests. In the county of Westmeath equally objection-
able conduct had been pursued by Dr. Phelan, the Assistant
Commissioner of Poor-laws. In reading a part of the cor-
' respondence which had passed between him and that gen-
tleman he expressed a hope that the Noble Marquis on the
Woolsack (the Marquis of Normanby) would not take ad.
vantage of his candour._( Laughter. )
The Marquis of NORM AN BY—I can't promise tha'.
—( Great laughter. )
The Marquis of WESTME ATH then read extracts
from tette:a of Dr. Phelan for the purpose of showing that
in fixing the boundaries of the Union of Castletown, Del-
vie, Drumchree, and Clonmullin, the Commissioner was
influenced by a desire to serve the purposes of the Roman
Catholic clergy. The manner in which the Irish Poor-law
Act was carried out required the interference of Parlia-
meat. The liable Marquis concluded by moving for a
Select Committee to inquire into the operation of the
Poor-law Act in Ireland, and the mode of electing certain
officers under that Act.
The Marquis of NORMANBY contended that there
was no ground fur entertaining the motion of the Nuble
Marquis, or for disturbing the law which had so recently
received the sanction of the Legislature. There were
now 140 Unions in Ireland, and out of all these the Noble
Marquis had only been able to discover 14 is which any
complaint was made against the mode of election. He
(Lord Normanby) was perfectly ready to meet the Nehte
Marquis upon all the cases which he had put forward re-
specting the county of Leitrim ; but he considered that
it would be a waste of time to discuss subjects upon which
very imperfect information was before their Lordships.
He admitted that there might have been forgeries of votes,
but where they occurred they were investigated, and in
two cases where the forgery was traced to constables in
the police force those persons were dismissed. So far as
the operation of the Bill had pi occeded, there was no rea-
-1 son to despair of its ultimate succe.s. (The Noble Mar-
quis then read several extracts from the correspondence
which had paned between the Marquis of Westmeath and
Dr. Phelan. the Assistant Poor-law Commissioner in the
c, uttty of Westmeath. The acknowledgments of error
on the part of the Marquis of Westmeath, which occurred
I several times in the course of the correspondence, excited
I considerable laughter in the House.) He trusted their
, Lordships would not add to the many difficulties the Poor-
law Commissioners were centending with
.by cansenting
to the motion of the Neh'e M
I The Duke of WELLIgGTON firmly believed their
. Lordships ncver would have passed the 8.11 to localize as
. much as possible expenditure, were it not to induce the
occupers of land to take care of those unfortunate
indivi-
duals, not only from motives of humanity, hut of economy.
It would have been impossible to establish this system
unless very strong powers had been given to the Poor-law
Commissioners, which was accordingly done. And, in
order that Parliament and the public might know what
they did, they were required to keep a record of all their
i proceedings. and it was, therefore, in the power of those
who were aware of any grievances existing to require them
to be recorded by the Commissioners for the information
of tote Government and the country. But the Commissioners
had not properly recorded the facts brought under tl.eir
cognizance, and had thereby neglected their duty. How.
Ise feared the motion of the Noble Lord would at
presents only cause c o. nf u si °lnf.
thehe wouldNobi
ereco Marquismm endhintconsented not
now to press his mottoo .
to this, be hoped that before the next Session the Govern.

The SPEAKER thought the Hon.. Member wits quite
in order.
Mr. HUME hoped the House would agree to postpone
the question for one week for the reason stated by his Hon.
Friend near him, and also because he had heard no prece-
dent brought forward to show how a Bill could be a public
and private Bill at the saw time.
HAWES said he did not propose going into Com-
mittec on this Bill, but be did not think it was too much
1 to ask for some slight delay.
The question having been put fromlbe Chair that this
Bill be now read a second time,
Mr. HUME moved its adjournment to this day week.
After some desultory conversation, in which Mr. Goal-
burn, Mr. DeiliLoo, Captain Pechell, and others took
part, amidst loud cries of " Divide. divide,r. strangers
were ordered to withdraw, when the cumbers were—
For the second reading ... .... lB7
Against it
Majority 126
The Bill was then read a second time.
WARR'S DIVORCE BILL.

On the motion of Mr. FRE S LIFIE L D Warr's Divorce
Bill was reads third time and passed.
GRANT'S DIVORCE BILL.

Mr. FRESHFIELD moved, in this case, that personal
service of the c,,py of the Bill, and the Order of the
House, be dispensed with, and that the service of the
smile on Mr. James Molyneux Taylor, the rgcnt of Mrs,
Maria Theresa Grant, Le deemed good service.
Evidence was then heard to show that the residence of
Mrs. Grant could not be found.
Mr. DUNCOMBE moved as an amendment that
Mr. J. M. Taylor be summoned to attend at the bar of the
House on Monday next.
Mr. HUNIE seconded the motion, which, however, was
eventually withdrawn.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that the Howe at its
rising should adjourn till Monday next.—Agreed to.
Dr. NICHOLS wished to ask the Noble Lord oppo-
site if be intended to persevere in his intention of exclud:ng
the poorer diocezes of Wales from the operation of the
Ecclesiastical Duties and Revenues Bill ?
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said it was his intention to
persevere in tkat resolution.
Lord DUNGANNON wished to know if the Noble
Lord intended to introduce a separate Bill for NVales?
Lord J. RUSSELL said he did intend to do so.
Mr. WALLACE wished to ask the President of the
Board of Trak, if he had received any intimation of a
tariff issued by the Spanish Government affecting the trade
of Spain with this country.
Mr. L ABOUC HERE sail that he had heard within
the last few dos that the Spanish Commissioners appointed
to investigate the subject, had recommended a tariff which
would certainly prove injurious to the trade, both of this
country and of Spain, but ha hoped the recommensla:ion
would not be acted on, and the Corte* had not yet gives
it their sanction.
ECCLESIASTICAL DUTIES AND REVENUES
BILL.

Sir THOMAS ACLAND presented two petitions
from Barnstable and Winchester, against the Ecclesiastical
Duties and Revenues Bill.
On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, the House then
went into Committee on the Bill.
On the further consideration of the 7th clause being
proposed.
Mr. GOULBURN objected to the clause, on the
ground that it would deprive the University of Cambridge
of the means which it now possessed, of carrying on public
instruction. He wished that Cambridge should, at all
events, be put on the same footing as the sister Uni-
versity. The Right Hon. Gentleman having complained
of the scanty endowmews of the Professors of Cambridge,
concluded by proposing that " Ely" should be inserted in
the clause.
Lord J. RUSSELL objected to the proposal, as he
did not see the necessity for it. He had already yielded
in the case of Christchurch, as he thought it would be
proper to do so ; but he would not consent to any further
concession.
Sir R H. hicus and Lord DUNOANNON supported the
amendment.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the
' Committee divided, when there appeared—
For the clause .. 3O
For the amendment
Majority in favour of the clause
On our readmission into the gallery, we found
Mr. WYNNE on his legs, suggesting that some pro-
vision should be made in the B II for more extended cc-
coesmod:eion, and more frequent Divine Service, in the
cathedrals of the country. He did not wish that the
beauty of these edifices should be diAgured Is), the erec-
tion of pe,ts ; but he thought that moveable seats might
be used, and an ern;nent preacher employed.
Lord J. RUSSE L L agreed with the ..bservations of
the Hon. Member fur Montgomery, but he did not think
that anything satisfactory could be adopted in the present
Bill, neither would be pledge himself to adopt any parti-
cular course with respect to it.
The clause, with a few verbal amendments, was then
agreed to.
Clauses 8,9, and 10, were agreed to, with a few verbal
amendments.
On clause 11 being put,
The Earl of LINCOLN, in the absence of Colonel
Rolleston, moved the follovving amendment to it :—" That
in the Collegiate Church of S iuthwell, the canonries, as
vacancies occur, except the canonry now held by the Arch-
deacon of /sLetineham, shall be suppressed, until only
four remain, and that such ;:atiargi shall be residentiaries."
Lord JOHN RUSSELL opposed the amendment.

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The Noble Lard hall stated no reason why eanonries

should b kept up pt. S.Atth,v,ll.' - •
The Eirl of LINCOLN said th,re vas nothinsf in the
if the canouries were suppressed, to Lend! the

small hvinas by t'!eir cuppre:ision:
Sir E SUDDEN opposed the amendment.
Sir P ING LIS was of opinion that the taking away
of any ooe of the cathedral nr pititanerns !unit necessarily
ue ken the Church of England. They ought •to be
allowed to remain, in order to induce persons in the higher
closscs to bring up their sons to the Church. He would
support the amendment of his Noble Friend. 0
Strangers were ordered to withdraw.
The Committee divided, when there appeared.—
For the amendment l4
Against it 54
Majority

On our return to the gallery, we found
Dr. NICHOLS complaining that the Bill made no
provision for maintaining the fabrics of the coll:•giate
churches.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he thought that matter
waq amply provided for in a future clause.
On the question that the clause stand part of the Bill,
The Earl of LINCOLN said of the thirteen parishes
under the Collegiate Church of Smthwell, twelve of them
had an income under 2031.—0ne was so low as 4G1., and
another 491. Surely such cases ought to be provided for.
The clause, as amended, was then orlercd to stand part
of the Bill.
It being proposed to strike out clause 12,

Dr. NICHOLS said he must oppose such a motion. It
would not be doing justice to \Vales. It was very im•
portant that the Welsh Bishoprics shoal be placed upon
the same footing as those in England. He moved to insert
fotir in p'ace of two, so that there might be four Preben-
daries retained in Wales as in England.

Mr. W. 0. STANLEY hoped the Hon. and Learned
Member would not persist in such an amendment. The
revenues of the Pre;)ends proposed to be suppressed could
be much more usefully emplo)ed.
After a few words from Mr. GOULBURN, the
amendment was withdrawn.

The douse was then stuck out of the Bill.
On clause 13 tieing read,
Mr. AC LA ND moved the introduction of an amend-
ment to excludo '•aity prebendary or other officer, not
being a resident, of any cathedral church of England or
Walei," horn the operation t.f the clause.
Lord J RUSSELL opposed the amendment, as it
would striko at the very principle of the Bill, which was
to compel the parties who received stipends to perform
the duties attached to their tfices.

A!'ter some discu.sion, i►, which Mr. Lushinriton, Mr.
Aclind, and Lord Dungannon took part, the Committee
divided. when there appeared—
For the amend►r.ent
Against it . 86
Majority

-70

Oa our return to the Gallery we found
Sir R. INGLIS on his legs. He said the last division
in the Committee having decided that the money should be
taken away from the establishment, he hoped they would
allow the offices to remain without the emolument. He
would, therefore, move an amendment to that effect.
The gallery was again clear, d for a division but none
took place ; and, on re-admission, we understood that the
iuecamendmentas 14, 5,16, and 17, i.
of Sirl R. Inglishulelbreeae
been agreed
to
eedto
cwith a
few
verbal amendments.
On clause l 8 being read,

Sir R. ING LIS . said the object of the clause was to
prevent any person receiving the appointment of Canon
until he had been six years in priests' orders, and he
propo;cd to introduce an amendment to the effect of ex-
cepting in the case of canonries ann-xed to any profes-
sorship or headship, or other office, not being an arch-
deaconry.

Sir P. PEEL supported the amendment. thought
it would be injudicious to limit the time when these ap-
pointments could be conferred, as they would thereby be
deprived of the opportunity of rewarding merit in de-
scrvinf.7, young men.
Tl.e clause as amended was then agreed to.
_ _

Clause 19 was agreed to, and—
e
Clause 20 was struck out.
On clause 21 being proposed some little discussion
ensued, one Hon. Member stating that he thought 3.0001.
a-year too much for the Deans of Christchurch and Durham,
and wishing that they should be reduced, like other Dean-
eries to 2 0001.
Colonel SIBTHORP thought this a miserable and
nlggarcily sum to be given to a D..an. They had S,,creta•
r;es of State receiving 6,0001. h-year, who bad not the
dignity to keep up which the Deans had, or if they had
they certainly did not keep it up.—( A laugh.) If a pro-
position were made to reduce the salaries of her Majesty's
EltedU Ineyß UthßeN
csnamidintih,seiocnte;:russ,e
ahnadd nbo,
at
ibdeees,n rbee.
Ministers to 2 0001. it shouid meet with his cordial .rapport.to a specific money payment, fixed for the digni-
cotaol;cl7rsticeondGfdthe Church, in such a Bill a; this, which was to
settle the subject. He also objected to it, because it took
front the Deans and Chapters the management of their own
property, and be feared that it might hereafter be taken
advantage of to take from the Deans and Chapters the
management of theirowu property, and give them merety
a rent charge. He objected to giving canons only 1001.
a-year, as prejadicing the clerical profession in regard
to other professions ; he was afraid of the principle, and
he therefore should oppose the clause.
Lord J. RUSSELL was entirely himself responsible
for this clause. It appeared to him desirable to introduce
the clause in order to do away will the great inr qualities
in the Church. Wi!hont the introduction of some such
clause, they vrou.d have a Canon of Ripon receiving 911
a year, a Canon of Chester receivine 1771., while a C.,noit
of St. Paul's would receive 1.3621. a year. Now the
poorer canonries were raised to 5001 a year, and so fa-
it was an advantage to them, and he did not think a Dean
who received 2 VOL a-year, or a Canon who received
1,0001. a-year, could be considered as under-paid. He
theueht, that of all the professions in .his country, that in
which the largest rewards could be obtained was the
Church. I.i the army, a regiment which yielded 1.000/
a year. was eonddered a great reward for a life paseed in
the scrv;ce ; he gave that as an instance, and contrasting
that with the incomes of the &Atop, and with the in-
comes of the Deans and Canons, he did riot think they
need be under any very great apprehension as to the in-
ducements to enter the Church.
Mr. GOULBURN did not think the comparison with
the fumy a fair one—the law would have been a fair corn-
parison—the extent of the. lab Jur which an assiduous
clergyman underwent was. enormtaa.-. There was nothing
more painful to his f,elings than to contemplate the
destitute state in which many of the fanatics of clergy-
Men were left.
Sir H. VERNEY said that by lowering the incomes
of the Deens'and Canons they were . increasing the fund
out of which meritorious and distressed clergymen were to
be remunerated.
Sir ROBERT INGLIS considered that there was
this fallacy in Mr. Buxton's statements, and in the clause
as proposed by the Noble Lord. They were not voting
public u.oney to the Dean and Chapter, they were deciding
not how much they woul I give to them,
hoped his Right Han. Friend
If thought 2,000/. a year too
they would take away from them, for the wholebu was
tho‘c
touch
own property.
littleoNu llrd
f. omrPoaEd Difyiel3ahniEs, Re
hiTaeu°swould :be leaving a Dean of Ripon
with only 3001. a year.
Alter a few words from Mr. GOULBEFIN and Mr. Join
JERVIS,
The Committee divided on Mr. Goulbure's amendment
to omit all the words of the clause relatinite to the equaliza-
tion of the incomes of the Deaneries andCanonr:es.
Ayes ............ .... 53
Nees ..... , ............... . 25
Majority rgainst the smendinent — 28
The clause was then ;greed to.
The House resumed, and the Chairman reported pro-
gress, and asked leave to sit again on Monday.
In reply to Sir R INGLIS,
Lord J. RUSSE LI. said that he did not propose to
bring forward this Bill after half-past ten on Monday night.
The Right of Voting (Scoifand) Bill was ordered to be
real a second time this day three months.
The Canal Police Bill was read a second time.
The Isle of Man Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Entailed Estates i: Scotland! Bill was then read a
third time and passed
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ob-
taned leave to bring .n a Bill to amend two Acts passed
in the 21 and 4th and sth and 6th William IV. for relief
of the Colonies.
EXPENSES OF COMMITTEES.

Mr. GREENE moved that a Select Cominwee be ap-
pointed to inquire into the sums paid by the Treasury on
account of Sleet Committees of the two Houses of Par-
fitment, and to report upon the best method of checking
needless expenditure in the inquiries which take place be-
fore such Committees.
NATIONAL GALLERY.
Mr. G kLLY KNIGHT moved that a Select Com-
mittee be appointed to inquire into the plan sanctioned by
the Commissioners of Woods and Forests for laying out
the vacant space in front of the National
The CHA.NC:ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that
,he was sorry to be obliged to refuse to uratify the cu-
riosity of the Hon. Gentleman. The real object was t, ob-
tain some inforcnraion relating to the Nelson Monument.
Last year the Commission had pledged their word to ilia!
Committee that they should have the ground, and the
Committee had entered into contracts in consequence;
the application was too late, and he could not eonsent to
advisec ol the Colonel
el
T.
violate the pledge they had given.
n‘mvmesisi);ioi;tseariad uthntd,reer any circumstances to
e
laid, and thought that the Nelson mightM:nausinsecanrtcelya
bsetaon-If
vantageously erected elsewhere, as he thought the National
Gallery might be improved, so as to be made ornamental,
but if the column were erected, its portico, the only good
( laugh.)
monument.
thing about it, would be hid.
Sir J. GRAHAM said the National Gallety would
ot
thought
ou thatg t
h It Ihoa ut 3e
en
at A
eternal h
stand eternal monument of the last of the Committees
had been sub-
mitted to and altered by Committees of the House, and he
of the taste of the
Committees of that House was quite suflieiet.t to justify
)
Pl 3"
the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his refusal.
Sir THOMAS ACLAND wished to know if it wastoo
late to interfere in th, ease of the plan of the Royal Ex-
change, fur it sec med to him that the men of taste on the
ether side Temple bar were likely to keep the Committees
of that House in admirable countenance.
The other Orders of the D were then disposed of, cod
the House rnouseotAiodnjowuarstieth:n atnoeg.i:toi7d clowckitout a division.
.h

The Bishop of Worcester is
.
now convalescent,
but is sojourning at Malvern Wells, for the benefit of the waters.
On Monday night i ' lati
at Walsall, that a large sum of money bad been found by the
workmen employed at the Walsall and South Staffordshire
Bank, in taking down the counters, &c , for the purpose of
a report was n cum on
remov Ito the new establishm.nt. The fact, we are given to
understand, is, that on removing one of the c iunters upwards
of 30 11. in notes was found concealed about an arm's length
between the counter and the wall, but by whom this sum was
sepreted is at present unknown.— Wolverhampton Chronicle.

Cif [NA NEW.,=.
FUR HIER P RTICULNRS.

PREPARATIONS FOR WAR.

Governor Lin has efilisted about 3,000 recruits, who arc
beirg, drily d daily near Canton in the military exA-ciscs of
,he tow, the spoor, and On 'clou'ale Sword. The latter is a
weapon p we believe, to China. Each soldier is
armed w.th two short and straight swords, o3e in each
hand, which, by being knocked against each other, pro-
duce a clangour, which it is thought will intimidate the
enemy.