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THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 13. 1840

ference to either of the other candidates, eight, including
his own vote. There are other ten Conservatives in
the Council, including the Dean of Guild (who must
now be held to have gone over to the Tories), who,
from principle, preferred Mr. Drysdale, the Tory can-
didate ; and all of whom are opposed on principle to
the Non-Intrusionists. Nine of these voted for
Sir James Forrest ; thus making the total number of
his supporters 17, and giving him a majority of one of
the whole Council, which consists of 33 members.
The other Conservative, Mr. Urquhart, to his honour,
refused to sacrifice his principles by voting with his
party ; and therefore declined voting altogether. It
thus appears that out of 33 members, Sir James Forrest
bad the preferable support of only eight, including his
own vote ; and that of these only four were Non-Intru
sion Whigs Nothing could more clearly show the
weakness of the Non-Intrusion party. Mr. Black had
the preferable support of fifteen members, all Whigs ;
and yet, by the disgraceful coalition which has taken
place, Sir James Forrest, who is thus proved to be
really the rejected of 25 members out of 33, has been
appointed Lord Provost 1 Nothing could be more de-
grading than this to any man who had really the in-
terest of the Liberal party at heart.

HORRIBLE RENCONTRE.

(From the Natchez Courier of the 9th ult.)
It is a painful duty, in the line of our profession, to
notice this morning one of the most sad and distress-
ing events on record. The public are aware that near
a year ago our fellow-citizen, Josias A. Lyle, had a
quarrel with a Mr. Hagan, of New Orleans, in which
the latter was shot through the head. Mr. Lyle was
tried in this city for the offence and fully acquitted.
Would that we could with that trial date a cessation of
hostilities, and the compromise of a dispute about pro-
perty still existing between Mr. Lyle and the Hagans ;
but, alas ! we are forced to witness a denouement truly
afflicting and horrible. Some weeks since the Hagans,
who were partners with Lyle in the cultivation of a large
plantation on the Mississippi river, repaired to the farm
and took forcible possession by driving off Lyle's over-
seer. Last Tuesday Mr. Lyle and four friends went to
the farm for the purpose, we have been told, of com-
promising the difficulty. Immediately on landing from
the Baton Rouge, Lyle and one of h;s friends rushed to
the house, when the Hagan whom he had previously
shot met him at the door, and demanded the purpose of
his visit. Lyle and his friend were both armed with
guns. The response made to the demand of Hagan
was " Peace, of course, peace." Hagan commanded
him to advance no farther until he explained what he
wanted. Lyle said a man could not be stopped from
walking in his own yard, and continued to move towards
the house. Hagan immediately levelled a double-bar-
relled gun, and shot Lyle through the head and heart,
and he fell instantly dead. The friend of Lyle, a Mr.
Handly, then raised his piece to shoot Hagan, but it
snapped. Hagan aimed the second load of his gun at
Handly, but it missed fire. Handly went to the gate
and discharged his piece at Hagan without effect. An-
other of Mr. Lyle's friends, a Mr. Lumsden, formerly
of the Natchez City Guard, then advanced, and was
shot through the hand by a second gun, which Hagan
reached from inside the door. Thus ended the bloody
conflict. Mr. Hagan surrendered himself to the proper
authorities of Jefferson county, and is determined to
have a trial. The body of Mr. Lyle was brought to
Natchez yesterday, and the tale of his death caused
throughout our community the deepest anguish. He
was a brave, good citizen, highly beloved by all our
people. He was followed to the grave yesterday after-
noon by an immense concourse of friends.

to Lord Seymour. She was immediately submitted to
the examination of a veterinary surgeon, who declared
that she had scarcely entered on her third year, an age
which, not more than the description, agreed with that
of the filly bought in England by M. Aumont. In
order to be perfectly certain of the facts. Lord Seymour
sent the filly to London to submit her to the examina-
tion of a Mr. Sterling, with whom she was foaled, but
who did not recognise her, Lord Seymour being pro-
vided with this information, has summoned Messrs. Au-
mont and Palmer before the Tribunal of the Seine, to
try the matter, and to decide that the filly sold him is
not the same which came from the stables of Mr. Ster-

ling, and that the filly which gained the first prize for
horses of French breed is an English horse. On the
result of this will depend whether Jenny was not entitled
to recover the prize.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

MANSION-HO USE.

John Smith, the-desperate fellow who was some days
ago brought up charged with having robbed the shops
of Mr. Dodd and Mr. Gibson, goldsmiths and watch-
makers, was re-examined before Sir Peter Laurie.
Pernaps there never appeared in the justice-room such
a specimen of ruffianism.
The prisoner, it will be recollected, walked into each
of the shops on the same evening, and snatched a watch,
while an accomplice endeavoured to distract the atten-
tion of the person behind the counter, and was appre-
hended with both watches in his hand, the glass of one
of which was broken by being pressed against the other
in the scuffle with the policeman. The answer which
the prisoner made to the charge was, that the watches
were his own, having purchased one of them of a seaman
and the other of Mr. Dodd himself, who had the un-
common impudence to accuse him of robbery, alter
having received his ten sovereigns for the article.
Sir PETER LAURIE asked whether there was any
further evidence against the prisoner ?
Inspector Brake said he had ascertained that the
prisoner had been transported in 1833, for robbery.
Prisoner—Transported ! Never, s'elp me G—. Its
all a d—d lie. I never did anything to put me in dan-
ger. I'm an American born. This is your English
way of law, and justice is it ? D—n such justice.
Inspector Brake—He is not an American. He is a
Jew, and his brother lives over the water. He knew
where to find his father and mother and sister.

Prisoner—Lord! Why, I'm d—d if I have either

father or mother, or sister. What a pretty set you po-
lice are ! To take up respectable men because they
go to buy watches. Three parts of your police can act
and assist thieves, and no mistake.
Sir PETER LAURIE—Then I wonder they have not
you amongst them, for you would certainly teach them
some new tricks.—(A laugh.) It seems they have got
you now, however.
Prisoner—They say I've been transported. Why,
I'd sooner have a sword poked bang through me than
be transported. I wish I may come out on the gallows
if I ever was sent abroad.
Inspector Brake—l have got a letter which he wrote
to a woman, in which he informed her that he expects
to be lagged for life for four robberies which he com-
mitted.

Prisoner—A letter! There now. Why, I'm d—d

if I can write a d—cl stick in the world. There's your
police for you. A gentleman can't walk the streets
now but he's in danger of being charged with robbery.
It's the the thieves that escape, and no mistake.
Sir P. LAURIE-Mr. Dodd, have you any doubt that
this is the man who ran away with the watch from your
shop ? Mr. Dodd—Not the least. I swear that he is
the man.

Prisoner—What d—d impudence. S'elp me God, I
put my ten sovereigns into your hand. It was as regu-
lar a sale as ever was made.—(Laughter.)
Sir P. LAURIE—Have you any doubt, Mr. Gibson,
that he ran away with a watch from your shop ? Mr.
Gibson—Not the slightest doubt, Sir Peter.
Prisoner—l hope I may be well skeletoned, if I was
inside of his shop at all, or outside either.—(Laughter.)
This is your English law, is it ?
Inspector—There is a female here who identified the
prisoner, as the person who robbed her of a watch.
Prisoner—Let's have a look at she. We'l, here's
more of it ! A regular got up affair, and no mistake
Mrs. Sarah Lamb stated that on Saturday month the
prisoner walked into her shop, in the window of which
she had some watches, one of which had been left by a
gentleman tor repair. The prisoner, after saying a few
words, dashed his hand across her like a flash of light-
ning, seized the gentleman's watch, which was worth
about 4/., and ran off with it.
Prisoner—l did, did I ?
Mrs. Lamb—l swear that you are the person.
Your face and figure never left my mind since the
robbery.
Prisoner-1V ell I'm d—d if that don't beat all the
rest out and out.—(Laughter.)
Sir PETzn LAURIE.—That you think is a genuine
he? Prisoner (smiling)—D—d if that don't beat every
thing. -
_ _

Sir PETER LAURIE—I dare say you are not so sure
that you robbed her as that you robbed these gentle-
men ? Prisoner—That is a lie of hers, s'elp me God,
without a match in the world.
Sir PETER LAURIE.—You admit that the others are

true in comparison ?—(A laugh.) Prisoner—(Holding
up his hands, and looking towards the woman)—Well of
all the b—y impudent liars that ever opened a mouth,
that woman's the worst. If I was coming out at eight
o'clock in the morning with a white night cap on, s'elp
my G—d I'd say that.
Sir P. LAURIE—WeII, I :hall commit you for trial.
Prisoner—What the d—l will you commit me for ?
For having my own property about me, is it ?
Sir PETER LAURIE—For the two simple robberies in
the shops of these gentlemen. You say you never were
transported. I have no doubt that you will be tran-

sported, as you prophesied in your letter, for life, and
I never saw a thief whom I shall be more glad to get
rid of.

Prisoner—You may do your best and your worst,
d—d if I care aboult any of you. I'm an American,
and I paid for that watch that man says I snatched
from him. He has my money, so that I tun first robbed,
and then persecuted I—that's beautiful justice, aint it
The prisoner, whose conduct caused astonishment
even amongst those in the daily habit of witnessing
charges of various kinds against experienced thieves,
was then committed to Newgate for trial.
THE REV. MR. SMITH, COMMONLY CALLED BOAT-
SWAIN SMITH.—The late Lord Mayor having been
some weeks ago informed that Mr. Smith, commonly
called Boatswain Smith, was confined in the Queen's
Bench prison for debt, and that the poor man was do-
ing all in his power to check the practice of drinking,
and using blasphemous language there, and had already
accomplished a great deal by addressing his fellow-
prisoners on the subject, caused inquiries to be made
into the matter.

Mr. Hobler mentioned to the late Lord Mayor, on
the last day his Lordship sat in the justice-room, that
the result of the inquiry was extremely creditable to
Mr. Smith. There were doubtless in the prison indi-
viduals, to whom the assiduous labours of a man who
preached and practised temperance must be offensive,
and accordingly a few of those who were annoyed by
the recommendation of a system wholly against their
taste and feelings, denied that the indefatigable preacher
did any good within the walls ; but persons of respec-
tability had come to the Mansion-house, and declared
that he was rendering the greatest benefits by his ex-
ertions, and that a great many unfortunate persons,
whom prison habits were destroying, had felt the effi-
cacy of his advice, strengthened as it was by his example.
The late LORD MAYOR said he was happy to hear
his hopes confirmed. He had recently heard that the
poor man was greatly missed in poor and populous
neighbourhoods of the metropolis, and he believed that
Mr. Smith was doing much good in the Queen's Bench,
from which, however, his Lordship wished he might be
soon relieved, for the sake of the institutions he contri-
buted to support.

BRIGHTON.—A considerable portion of the
green slope at Kemp Town has bean washed down by the
recent high tides. The beautiful Esplanade has not, how-
ever, received any injnry.—Brighton Gazette.
LORD MAYORS OF LONDON.—In the Saxon
times the Supreme Governor of London was called Port-
gerefa, that is Custos or Guardian, and sometimes Pro-
vost of the City. After the Norman Conquest the Chief
Magistrate was called Ballirus—or one who has commis-
sion to govern others. There used to be sometimes two
Bailiffs of London, until Richard the First changed the
name of Bailiffs into that of Mayor, in 1189. In the olden
times he was accustomed usually to appear abroad on
horseback, with rich caparison, himself (as Chamberlayne
states) always in long robes, sometimes of scarlet cloth
richly furred, and sometimes purple, and over his robes a
hood of black velvet, which some say is a badge of a Baron
of the realm, with a great chain of gold about his neck, or
collar of S S, with a great jewel pendent thereon, with
many officers walking before and on all sides of him, This
great Magistrate is said, upon the death of the King, to be
the first person in the Kingdom ; and therefore when
James the First was invited to come to take the crown
of England, Robert Lee, then Lord Mayor of London,
subseribed his name in the first place before the officers of
the crown and the nobility.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT.—EXTRAOR.
BINARY CASE.—Joseph Newsome, an insolvent, had been
upwards of five years confined in Whitecross-street prison,
and had recently obtained leave from the Court to file a
petition preparatory to his hearing. Mr. Cresswell said
he had an application to make on the part of the unfortu-
nate man for an allowance under the 18th section of the
present Act, out of the interest arising from the un-
claimed fund, to enable him to file his schedule and come
up for hearing. The poor man had been imprisoned for
five years, and was in a state of utter destitution. The
Court would see, on reference to the schedule, that the
insolvent had no excepted articles, as allowed by the Act,
and there was a statement that the clothes he wore had
been provided by the parish, and that he was supported
by the prison allowance. The bill of costs for conduct-
ing his case in this Court would amount to upwards of
18/ , and the attorney had no security for the same, or
been paid any portion thereof. Mr. Commissioner Harris
ordered 101. to be paid to the attorney to bring the poor
man before the Court after a confinement of five years.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA.

A meeting of the land purchasers in the settlement of
Austraiind, Western Australia, and others, took place
. .

yesterday, at the Londo❑ TillCrn, in consequence of a
requisition numerously signed by persons desirous of
obtaining further information respecting• the change of
site of the settlement from Port Lesehenault to Port Grey.
John Chapman, Esq., Deputy-Chairman, convened
the meeting.

W. Hutt, Esq., M.P., Chairman of the Company
presided.

We observed the following Directors present :—Mr
Brocking, Mr. H. Buckle, Mr. Enderby, Mr. Irving
Mr. Montefiore, Captain Sweney, R.N., and Mr. E.
G. Wakefield.

The CHAIRMAN stated that, upon the 10th of last
month the lottery for determining the choice of lands
closed, and on the 12th, upon arriving in town, he
found a file of papers containing an advertisement of
the local government proclaiming the land which the
Company had purchased at Australind resumed, an.l
setting forth that the local Government would open to
competition such land within a few weeks afterwards.
There were despatches from the Government here to
countermand such resumption, but which had not reached
the colony. He at once placed himself in communication
with the Colonial-office, the result of which would appear
by the correspondence.—(The correspondence was
here read by the Secretary.) It would appear, added
the Chairman, that Captain Grey, who has been em-
ployed by the Government to explore parts of Austra-
lia, reports highly favourably of the new site ; and Mr.
Moore, the Judge-Advocate in the Colony, states that
the temperature of the new site, although nearer the
tropics, is not higher than at Swan River, which was
accounted for by the great elevation of the land. An-
other feature was, that on the opposite side of New
Holland, and in the same parallel of latitude, the cli-
mate is similarly characterised. The geological aspect
is favourable, and the natives are of a mild and inoffen-
sive character.

A portion of Captain Grey's Journal, made from
hour to hour upon the spot, was then read, from which
it appeared that the country is of the most picturesque
and fertile character. The hills are slightly wooded
with large timber, and plenty of water exists.
The following is extracted from Mr. Moore's Journal :
We stood to the south, to examine a bay opposite
the southern part of Moresby's Flat-topped Range.
This bay, which is not laid down in the charts, was
found to be an excellent anchorage, completely sheltered
from all southerly winds, which are the prevailing winds
on this coast at this time of year, and also much pro
tected by a reef running north and south from the ex-
treme point of the bay. This reef or bank was found
to have from three to five fathoms upon it, and within
it there was seven fathoms, even near to the shore at
the bottom of the bay, and there is no appearance of

any heavy sea or violent action of the water on the
beach at any time of the year. To the south of the
tongue of land which forms the bay there is also another
bay, which would be completely sheltered from all
northerly winds, so as to combine between the two bays
perfect shelter at all seasons of the year. From the
deck of the schooner where she lay we had a view of
the entire slope of ground, from the beach to the top of
the range, about five or six miles distant.
" The range seems to consist of isolated hills, rising

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from an elevated plain. Judging by the eye at distance, I
the entire space, as far as we had any opportunity of
seeing, after going a little way back from the coast, on
the slope of the hills, upon the hills, among the hills,
beyond the hills, and, in short, everywhere as far as
the eye could discern, appeared a grassy country, thinly
sprinkled with some low trees, or shrubs, perhaps the
acacia. If this be the case, and that there be water
sufficient, of which there is no reason to doubt, this
may certainly turn out to be the finest district for sheep
pasture that this colony can possess."
An additional guarantee of the fitness of the site of
Port Grey, is to be found in the Journal of Captain P.
P. King, R.N., vol. ii., pp. 372, 373.
In reply to a question, it was stated that there was
plenty of wood for building and firing within two miles
of Port Grey, and also limestone.
Mr. E. G. WAKEFIELD stated that he hailed the
change from Port Leschenault to Port Grey as a decided
advantage to the land purchaser, as the latter spot, was
in every respect more desirable from its fertility and
salubrity. From all authentic accounts the spot was
more favourable than any in Western Australia. The
change had not stayed the proceedings of the Company,
and the system originally decided upon would be carried
into complete effect. The interests of the purchasers of
land were identified with those of the Company, and the
Directors were unanimous in their intention to carry out
all the good results which may be anticipated from the
change. He (Mr. Wakefield) wished the purchasers
to make up their minds as quickly as possible, whether
they consented to the change, or whether they would
receive their money back with interest, that other parties
might obtain the lapsed orders.
Mr. Jonte CHAPMAN stated that at a meeting of the
intended settlers, Captain Grey was asked the point in
question—what portion of Western Australia he should
prefer as a settlement?—and his answer was, the spot
on which the Company intended to establish themselves.
Mr. MANGLES addressed the meeting, and acquiesced
in all that had fallen from the Chair, and eulogised the
course which they had adopted, and expressed his in-
tention to stick by them, and, as a nautical man, spoke
favourably of the Harbour of Port Grey. Mr. M.
likewise named other harbours in the vicit.ity, where ships
might remain in the most perfect safety.
In answer to a question, whether the Directors would
consent to extend the term for purchasers to retain
their purchases or not beyond the 14th instant, in order
to afford time to distant purchasers to learn the favour-
able opinion entertained by this meeting of the change
of site.
The CHAIRMAN replied that, it being the general
wish of the meeting to have an extension of time, the
Directors most willingly complied.
The 21st instant was named.
A vote of thanks to the Directors was then carried
unanimously for the honourable and straightforward
manner in whioh they met the difficulties incurred by
the resumption of the land on the part of the Crown,
and for the great interest they had evinced in the cause
of the settlers and land proprietors.
The meeting then separated, evidently gratified with
the explanation afforded.

The Parisian wits declared, on the fall of the
late Government, that anything was better than the
Thiers-etat.

GUY FAWKES.—The accidents and deaths that
occurred on the sth instant, from letting off fireworks
were lamentably numerous both in town and country.
The newspapers contain numerous reports of inquests
held on the bodies of boys who have fallen victims to
this dangerous custom of keeping Guy Fawkes day.
THE MANCHESTER CHARTER,—We under-
stand that the Judges of the Court of Exchequer
Chamber not being able to agree as to the judgment
which ought to be pronoueced upon this important sub.
ject, have ordered the case to be argued all over again,
and that the discussion will take place about the middle of
next month.

13IRTII OF THE DUKE DE CHAItTRES.—The
Moniteur Parisien thus announces this event :—" This
day, at half-past twelve, her Royal Highness the Duchess
of Orleans was happily confined of a prince, who, according
to the King's orders, received the names of Robert Philip
Louis Eugene Ferdinand of Orleans, Duke of Chartres.
The health of the prince and that of his august mother are
up to this moment as satisfactory as can be desired. Early
in the morning the King, Queen, Duke of Orleans, all the
Royal Family, and the Grand Duchess of Mecklenburg were
assembled. Informed in the King's name, the President
of the Council and all the Ministers went to the Tuile-
ries, where also arrived the Chancellor of France, filling
the functions of civil officer of state of the Royal House,
the Grand Referendary of the Chamber of Peers, and M.
Cauchy. Marshals the Duke of Reggio and Count Gerard
were present as witnesses at the birth and at the deed
which was drawn up. Soon after the birth of the Prince
the President of the Council wrote to the President of
the Chamber of Deputies, to communicate the joyful news
to the Chamber. The President, M. Sauzet, read this
letter. His Majesty took the opportunity of thanking
the Deputies, and saying bow much ha was affected by
the sentiment which had agitated the Chamber on
learning the news. A deputation of the Peers, convoked
hastily by the Chancellor, also was admitted to felicitate
the King. The Chamber of Peers had no sitting that day.
On that account the deputation was not numerous. The
Chancellor expressed his regrets to his Majesty, who re-
plied that he was too well persuaded of the devotion of the
Peers to require any greater number to renew the assurance
of it. The King was profoundly affected with the senti-
ments which the Chambers displayed on that solemn occa-
sion, as well for him as his family. Salvoes of artillery an-
nounced to the capital the birth of the Duke of Chartres."
A CENTENARIAN. Tuesday evening Mrs.
Shorthose entertained a party of old friends and neigh-
bours at the house of her wephew, Mr. Hind, in the New-
street, Burton-upon-Trent, to celebrate the centenary of
her birth. She was christened in the parish church of
Burton, Nov. 1, 1740. The venerable lady was in ex-
cellent health and spirits.
LONGEVITY.—In the small parish of mother-
by, near Mahon, out of the small population of 226 souls,
there are now living six individuals, whose united ages
amount to no less than 524 years, averaging about 87 years
each I One of these " patriarchs"—namely, Francis New.
by, is aged 90 years ; three of them, Thomas Baxter,
John Beal, and Richard Kneeshaw, are 89 years each ;
and the other two, James NatriEs and Thomas Woodcock,
are 85 years each. Such an instance of longevity is of
rare occurrence. —Yor A Cow ant.
The late accident on the Great Western Rail-
way appears to have been occasioned by the driver of the
engine having been attacked by apoplexy, at! accident the
recurrence of which can only be guarded against by having
machinery so connected with the wheels, not the dragging
wheels, of the carriage, as, after it has proceeded a cer-
tain distance, will, without attention from the engineers,
act on the valve, and let off the steam. In the accident
that happened at Paddington, the principal cause of mis-
chief to the passengers appears to have
source of danger mayhave been the glass of
the windows of the carriages. Tut
also be obviated, by using the transparent talc found in
Russia, and which is employed there
labifle to b
orm akeingbrothkeensvibcy-
dows of ships of war, as not being
the concussion of the guus.—Bath Gazette.

EVENING ED IT'
SL ORTING INTELLIGENCE•

TATTF,RSA LL'S— YESTERDAY.
We cannot say that the business transacted yesterday at.'
ternoon was either heavy or important ; it was sufficiently
extensive, however, to admit of a tolerable list of favou-
rites, nearly the whole of the h rses mentioned below hav-
ing been becked :—Marshal Soult for 1001., and two others
for smaller amounts. The only change was in the posi.
ad-
tions of Coronation and Eringo, the former having
vanced from 17 to 16 to 1, both taken, and the e-
clined to layers of 20, and takers of 92 to 1. Ralph'slatter nad
me
is seldom mentioned :-
16 to I agst Coronation—taken
20 to 1 agst Eringo—tAke 22 to 1
20 to 1 agst Cameleon—taken and afterwardsoffered
24 to 1 agst Marshal Soult—taken
40 to 1 agst Rattle's dam colt—taken
40 to 1 agst Isalaemon—taken
40 to 1 agst Van Amburgh—taken
40 t o 1 agst Simoom—take 50 to 1
50 to 1 agst Satirist—taken
50 to 1 agst Mustapha—taken
50 to 1 agst Snowdrop—taken
12 to 1 apt Cameleon and Marshal Soult—taken
20 to 1 each agst Eringo and Cameleon, in ono bet