The Sun.
London, England, 1847-07-03 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

(THIS DAY.)

BORNEO.

IRISH LANDLORDS.
Sir D. NORREYS adverted to his motion on
this subject. He considered, that he had been badly
used by the Noble Lord in this matter, as he had refused
to reply to his question. He said if any parties bad
been guilty of misconduct they should be held up to the
scorn which they deserved, and he called upon the
Noble Lord as an act of justice to say whether all were
to be implicated in these disgraceful proceedings or not.
Surely the innocent ought to be discriminated from the
guilty.

Lord J. RUSSELL said the report of the commis-
sioners stated that there were 1,700 committees, and
that amongst them some abuses had occurred; but the
Hon. Gentleman would have it that that inferred that
all were equally guilty.—(Hear, hear.) He did think
that it was impossible to state this more clearly than
the commissioners had stated it. He thought that the
publication of all the names, and the institution of an
inquiry, for both of which the Hon. Baronet asked,
would be productive of great evil.—(Hear, hear.) The
more prudent course to adopt would be to take the
statement as it was, and when the parties who had acted
improperly were appointed to the magistracy that an in-
quiry should be made into their conduct.
Mr. B. OSBORNE said if a Committee were ap-
pointed, that it could not accomplish the task which
would be assigned to them under a year, and that the re-
sult of their labours would fill one of the largest blue
books that has ever been printed.
Lord CLEMENTS supported the view of the Hon.
Baronet, and considered that the motion ought to be
agreed to.
Lord J. RUSSELL explained that the cases referred
to were the exceptions.
Mr. WAKLEY considered that an inquiry was due to
those who had not been guilty of the abominable prac-
tice which had been imputed to many landlords—
namely, placing their servants for support upon the rates.
The matter then dropped.
COLONIAL IMPORTS AND EXPORTS.
In reply to Mr. NEWDEGA TE,
Lord J. RUSSELL stated that he would make inqui-
ries respecting the returns for which the Hon. Gentle-
man had moved.

CHINA.
Lord SANDON wished to ask the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government whether the recent naval and mili-
tary operations in China had been carried on under the
sanction of the Government at home, or whether they
had been entered upon on the responsibility of the
Governor of Hong-Kong?
Lord J. RUSSELL—In answer to the Noble Lord's
question, I have to state, that the Governor of Hong-
Kong reported certain insults and injuries which were
inflicted on -British subjects, and the answer of the
Government to him was, that he ought to demand from
the Chinese Government redress for such injuries and
insults. After he had sent these reports, other cases
arose, of which an account did not reach this country
until a short time ago; but the Governor of Hong-Kong,
on taking into consideration that he was desired to
demand redress in certain cases, and these other cases
having occurred since that time, upon consulting with
the general commanding, thought that the only way of
obtaining effectual redress was to ask the officers com-
manding the naval and military forces to co operate with
him, and, certainly, in a naval and military point of
view, their plans were well designed and ably carried
into effect. This is the only.general answer I can give
to the Noble Lord. When the papers on the subject are
produced, they will, no doubt, show why the Governor
thought it necessary to adopt the course he had taken,
and why also he thought he could not obtain redress
without adopting that course.
HEALTH OF TOWNS.
On the order of the day for going into Committee on
this Bill,
Mr. HORSMAN wished to put a question to the
Noble Lord (Lord Morpeth) with respect to interments
in crowded cities. He wished to know whether the
Government intended to take any measure for the pur-
pose of putting an end to such interments, which
he said not only demoralised the people, but
physically deteriorated them. This and the past session
had passed by without any mention of a measure on the
subject, and as the public attention was becoming every
day more and more directed to it, he thought that the
Government ought to give an explicit answer to his
question, and if they were not disposed to introduce any
Bill on the subject, to state what secret obstacles pre-
vented them from doing so. The Bishop of London 25
years ago, when he was a poor rector, stated that no one,
unless devoid of humanity, would hesitate to do all in his
power to put an end to such an obnoxious system ; but
notwithstanding the increase of the population, they
were as far from any measure of reform as they were 25
years ago.
Mr. HUDSON said he had been repeatedly among
respectable inhabitants of York to call a meeting on the
subject. The inabitants were altogether adverse to in-
terment in the City.
Lord MORPETH—As soon as I shall have succeeded
in passing this Bill with respect to the health of towns, I
shall feel myself bound to mature and introduce a mea-
sure, and hope to carry it, for the prevention of burials
in towns; but I must say, I shall despair of carrying this
measure if you do not at once go into Committee
upon it.

Mr. WAELEY said the subject was most pertinent
to that of the health of towns, and strongly urged upon
the Noble Lord to lose no time in bringing forward a
measure to prevent interments in crowded towns.
Mr. HORSMAN protested against the statement of
the Noble Lord, that he wished to obstruct the business
of the House. This he considered was the most im-
portant part of the whole subject of sanatory improve-
ment, and he could not but think it strange that provi-
sions with respect to it had not been inserted in the Bill.
Lord MORPETH had no intention of addressing the
Hon. Gentleman in an uncourteous manner, but the rea-
son why he did not deal with the subject of burials at
present was, the physical difficulties which he found in
his way.
Mr. MACKINNON trusted the Noble Lord would
redeem the pledge he had given—that as soon as he
had passed the present measure, he would bring for-
ward, next session, a measure for the regulation of
burials in towns—and that being the case, he hoped the
House would allow the Bill to be proceeded with,
After a few words from Mr. P. BORTHWICK,
Mr. HENLEY objected to the Noble Lord charging
them with delaying the progress of the Bill, Hon.
Members only adopted the course which was legitimately
open to them, in calling attention to subjects that ap-
peared to them of importance.
The House then resolved itself into Committee.
Upon clause 8 being proposed,
Mr. SPOONER proposed a verbal amendment, with
respect to the propriety of the notices referred to in the
clause being posted up on all tho churches.
After some discussion,
Lord MORPETH said he had no objection to insert
the words "on the door of one or more churches."
The clause, so amended, was then agreed to.
Colonel SIBTHORP would like very much to know
what sort of persons these inspectors were to be, and
what salaries they were to have; for, as the duties' they
were to discharge were of an inquisitorial character, the
public should have the information he required. If the
Noble Lord refused to give him a satisfactory answer,
he would repeat the question at every clause till they
came to the 58th—(Laughter)—but he hoped he would
not give him that trouble.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord MORPETHho ed the lion. and Learned Gen-
tleman—(Laughter)—tee Hon. and Gallant Member
would not ask him to travel over again the same ground
he did last night when he replied to that question. He
then said that the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury
would fix the salary when they were aware of the
amount of duty the inspectors would have to discharge,
and he could not say till then what ain,)unt they would
think a sufficient rernuneratinn for the services to ha
pert.rated. The thin. G••ntietnan t dlte l of 100 inspectors
being appoln.,,d, but he h id already stat, d that he did not
think more than half a dozen at the utniast would i,e
regain d.
Clause 9 was agreed to, the words from " or," in Moe
19 to line 21, being left out.
Clause 10 was agreed to.
On clause 11,

Mr. HENLEY objected to that part of the clause pro-
viding that the offices of the town clerks should be open
for one month, for the inspection of the plans, without
remune,ratietn.

Tile AT GENERAL defended the clause,
and said that the admisSien of the principle laid down
by the Hon. Gentleman would lead to the greatest abases.
some disen,sion the clause was agreed to.
On clause 12 being proposed,
Mr. SPOONER moved as an amendment that the

Mr. HUME inquired when the Noble Lord proposed
to go into Committee of Supply?
Lard JOHN RUSSELL—I intend to bring on the
supply on Monday.
SITTING OF THE HOUSE TO-MORROW

I❑ reply to Slr. SPOONER,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL stated that he did not think
t would be necessary for the House to sit to-morrow.

Mr. EWART wished to inquire of the Under Score•
tary for the Colonies, what measures have been adopted
for the establishment of a settlement in the island of
Labuan, on the coast of Borneo, ceded to the British
Crown in December last.
Mr. HAWES said her Majesty's Government were
fully aware of the importance of the island ; but there
was no desire on the part of the Government to mag-
nify the colonial establishments ; parties, however, had
been appointed, who were competent to give the fullest
information, whose reports would shortly be presented
to the Government.