The Sun.
London, England, 1812-04-22 00:00:00

on- t't Ilia he thbiight ttiey Ottgiit t4bt to hesitate,
no dAnger ought so be apprehended to the Estq
biished Church, from conceding that which wasse
quired. Lost indeed would chat Church be, wins
'existence depended on depressing a great body
the people, and deny ing. them what they conscien
tiously backed to be their right.: Sir John Davi
the Attorney-C.;enerai of King James, had on on
occasion dt claied chat these-never was a nation i
tile world so fond of justice, even though it mid
against: itself, as Ireland. The conduet of ...th
Clergy in Ireland had been alzo highly panegyrised
and it had been said so far bark as in
.1414, that th
Irish hierarchy was .the most independent in to
wodit. He concluded, by piess.ng on the House
the beneh.s which might
„be hoped from a c!rang
with reiuect Co Ireland, and thankirig their Lorc
ships for the attention with which he had been ht
nonred.

The Bishop of ExEi•ER observed, that the me
tion merely spoke " Catholics," be thought
was necessity that Roman 'Catholics should be ex
pressed ; a, d theicsfore. tnoi.e 1, as an atnendrneni
th ,t the word " Rowan" should he instrted after th
word " the."

On the motion of Lord DONOUGIIMURE, the Pe
tition from Cambridge vves read, in a hid) the Cd
tholies were went:wird as he had nvidiontd the,,
tn the motion. His Ltrushlp trot th
Roman Catholics outnt.• Limier the dconminitio
which ne 11;41 ustd, but ilk tJJ :to .bje,iion to in ik
the proposed ch,,nge, pßoided the N, b!e Lore. wh,
hai stigvp.:ed it woolci givc ttit motion •ns, support
On such an widen; wining he w wd be w'diing t,
insert any other woi4 which the N0....e Lord to 6h
wash to intro uce.

.' The LORD CHANCELLOR wished to be eoetrart
in this priliciple, but he thought tree plunder in th
,Petition Louie not justify another itt toe mother.
Lord REDEgDALE stated his objections i• grantio
the prayer of the Cateolice; but doing this, how
ever meet' he had at heart the interests of the Esta
blisted Church, he was much deceived if any feel
ing of envious hoStility to the Catholics, such a
had been descrioed by the Noble Earl, influeoce
his conduct, or any bigotted attachment. isnie
the 2d, whatever had been his motive (whether hi
object vt as to gain arbitrary power, or merely to in
•troduce the Roman Catholic Religion) had elides
voured to establish the Roman Catholic Church it
' this' country under pretence of granting religioo
toleration. What was it that mainly prevented hi
carrying this design successfully into effeet ? Wh;
-it was this—he could introduce Catholics into civi
situations without violating the law. He therefor'
broke..the law to introduce them. For what par
pose did lie do this ? Why uedestroy that security
by which the Protestant Fetabtishment was pro.
tected. Had then the Roman Catholics been caiia.
ble by law of holdeig such situations, what leg
been the consequence ? Why, in'that case, the
people would have had no right to say the Aft
which placed them there, were a breach of the la'c
ande therefore, from this immediate circumstance,
it was evident that the law complained of had pros,.
ed of essential service to the Protestant Establish.
merit. In many-other instances it could' he prove
that it had a similar effeel, and therefore he could
not lightly g've it up. When the Prince of aerie!
was called upon by the people of this couetry 0,
- take upotibtrnselt the Government, they called u-pen
him to assert their religious as well as their civil li.
berries. In the Conventional Address it was stated
that " King James the Second and divers persen4
bi:d endeavoured to subvert the Protestant Religion:
&c. &c. which was directly contrary to law." Their
Lordships wofrild recollect that they called upon hire
to assume the reins of Government that their religi4
ous laws and linetei.'s might not be again in danger,
After the Pi ince of Orange had accepted the Crown,
this-declaration of their rights was carried into et.
feet in the second Session of William and Mary,
and it was enacted, that no Popish Monarch shotild
' sit on the throne; and marrying one of th';
'Popish religion, it was enatted that he should
be excluded from the 'sovereignty, and that his
heirs should be declared for ever incapable 01
inheriting , the Crown. Other securities were
still thought necessary, into which the Noble Lord
went at some length ; after welch he proceeded
to wad
iaed to coin-,rent upon the Curottation 0,11111
The question at plesent before the House was, wile-
, titer or not that_whicli, was requited by the Cad
tholics, would or would not be injurious to the
Protestant subj.:ee ? When he took tins suhjea into
consideration, and read in the history of the cousitrys
and found that the most effetnual security for the
existing establishments had been found t, be this
exclusion of persons professing the adman Ctutiolie
religion from all political power, 'he could not easily
be induced to join in any specula ion which went to
give up that security. Here he wished to call the
attention of the House to the situation in which the
Government would be placed, if the wishes of the
' Roman Catholics were complied with. In a Goe
verement where the Prince was absolute, he had X
controul, which, under other circumstances, could
not be exercised, as poisessir.g both the Legislative
and Executive Power, the same di-omen was not
likely to prevail, milicli, under other circumstances,
must exist. In a Government like our,, it was very
ditLuent, as if the Cttholics were admitted to all
Protestant privileges, to hold. high situations in the
State,, the consequence would be, that there would
be a large political body in the State, hostiie to 111°.
existing
.Establishment. -This rt itorally followed,
as a true Roman Catholic was necessarily hostile to
Protestant interest. Men m ould be men ; and
in cises where honours and emoluments were to' be
obtained, they would beeanxioes that they should be-
possessed by perqing of Own persuasion ; biz
in a case like: theeresent; the stimt,Ls to struggle ice
suderiority was infinitely-stronger. It- would ap-
pear to them not only desirable to take the'neces-7
nary steps to compass 'this de ig t, bit i would be
fit to be an imperative duty, as they must feel II
strongimpression on their rni,,tls that theirs was
the only true Church. ;On this subj.,d he was
strengthen_d by the Opinions of Mr. Locke and
many oilier persons of gte:at authority. With re-
spect icewhat had been said by the Royal Duke oil
the subject of the "corti'l'aditeon in our refusing to,
accede to the wishevol the Catholics, while we were
laboui Mg `to assist the Catholi, s abi oad, he vt mild
observe, that abstraetedlye we had no hostility
to the Roman Cal Italic religion. We had -110
o.,jed)on to ii,-So long is it did not disturb oat
State. If a clout try chose to establish an •exkluitive