The Sun.
London, England, 1841-12-10 00:00:00

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LONDON:
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 10, 1841.

The Earl of RODEN has written a pamphlet
entitle(' " Observations on Lord ALVANLEY'S
Pamphlet, &c." in which the Noble EARL
combats the Noble Lord's recommendation for
the State to take the Catholic priests of Ireland
into its pay. Somewhat to our astonishment, we
find ourselves agreeing on one important point
with the Earl of RODEN. In noticing Lord AL-
VANLEY'S pamphlet, we observed on Oct. 20th,
in speaking of paying the present race of priests,
" A new set of priests, more zealous than the sti-
pendiaries, paid by voluntary contributions,
would'soon supply the place of those who had
been bought over, and would harrass the State
like the present race. The paid priesthood would
in turn see their salaries and influence threatened,
and love of worldly pelf would strengthen their
desire for spiritual dominion. As in the case of the
clergy of the Church of England, avarice would
soon inflame zeal, instead of producing indiffer-
ence, and would raise up another set of priests
to share the gifts. However much they mad-
dened the people, they, too, must be bribed or
or bought off.

Now Lord RODEN says—
The monks have been always regarded by the. Roman
Catholic populace with the most superstitious reverence,
and the administration of the offices of the Church in
their hands esteemed peculiarly sacred and beneficial.
Already a considerable traffic is carried on by the bre-
thren, in holy candles, and beads, and relics, and gos-
pels, and the only restraint to a Meatier extent' of this
traffic arises from the jealousies and fears of the secular
priests, emoluments' '
lest their own emoluents'might thereby be' in
any wise
diminished. Remove this check by paying the
secular priest. ; the brothers will increase their traffic,
and the choristers will extend the sphere of their ser-
ye follow
monks
vices, and the burden of dues, and fees will be ten, nay, a
hundred-fold increased:
"firstili phis
stepT Pn:Theaspsasttihi
from Lord Alvanley's
are to be paid too.
The only difference between Lord RODEN and
us is, that he particularises the monks, he is ac.
quainted with that individual class ; we only
principles, and applied
reasoned from general
our remarks to every order of priests. We are
glad to have Lord RoDEN's testimony to the fact
that, if the State pay one order of priests, it only
stimulates the avarice of some other priests to
procure a larger share of the general wealth.
When the Earl of RODEN arid the Editor of The
Sun agree, it is quite certain, as in the case of an
agreement between a Frenchman and English-
man, that both are right; whence it necessarily
follows that it must be wrong to adopt Lord AL-
YANLEY'S plan, and take the priests into pay.
The question, however, remains, what is to be
don©. with regard to the Catholic priests of Ire-
land? Both Noble Lords, being Members of the
LegiSlature, agree that " the peace and tranquil-
lity of the country," to borrow Lord RODEN'S
words," are in the hands of the Roman Catholic
Pyiests," not in the hands, and not under the
power, of these'noin 441 lawgivers:-
4 (The. irrespon-sible power of the priest (sayS Lord
Roden) cannot Iv too strongly, deprecated. I agree with
Lord Abianley in think.,g that " it paralyzes the action
of th' laws Which were itittlriflO for the benefit of all, and
is incomptit43liii, die sell-being of the country to
whichit be•I"DP: it i.s.platl,bep.nd the reach of civil
law, and beyond the 'Control Of civil authority. What
law, or what authority, can reach or control the secret
tribunal of the confessional ? . .
Here is a power then in the Sta.te ',hove. the
law, and so must be the power ol'.'evierfpriest-
hood wielding a spiritual authority.Every' Dis-
senting clergyman, in truth, .is in the same
position as the Catholic priest, in respect to the
State; but he excites no alarm in the minds of
Noble Lords. Why then are they alarmed at
the Catholic priests? Because the Catholic
priests exercise their influence over nearly I
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Publihed by liatchard.

What contemptible politicians have been the-
oppressors of the Catholics, that when they in-
jured them they did not follow the advice of
MAcntAvEma, and annihilate them ? About the
middle of the seventeenth century the whole
population of Ireland was estimated at 6,200,000,
of whom not more than two-thirds were Ca-
tholics and Irish. Now, if our Protestant poli-
ticians
had wished to do their work effectually,
they should have rooted out these Catholics, and
not have allowed them to multiply, with the sen-
timent of wrong,.and of their own power, ever
growing bigger and bigger. Now, and in this is
shown the righteous government of nature, they
have grown too powerful for their oppressors,
and all the schemes of Lords ALVANLEY and
RODEN will just end in this—that they must
place the Catholic and the Anglican priesthood
on a level, 4nd pay neither. The voluntary
system is the effectual cure for the disorders
dreaded by the-Noble Lords, and the cultivation
of reason and good sense the only means of
putting an end to the power, of the Catholic, or
any other priesthood.

The Divines of Oxford are incessant in their
labours to remove the few obstacles that yet block
up their passage to Rome. Their past success
must have more than realized their most san-
guine hopes. The journey is, in a great mea-
sure, performed already. The practice of auri-
cular confession, which Professor BA.DEN PowEL
asserts prevails within the walls of the Univer-
sity; Mr. PALMER'S advocacy of the doctrine
of purgatory, as defined by the Council of
Trent; and Mr. NEWMAN'S erection of
monkish cloisters, and endeavours to make
candidates for holy orders take the vows
of celibacy—are such - rapid and decisive
strides towards St. PETER'S Chair, that but little
now remains except the open celebration of mass
to make them as good Romanists as his Holiness
GREGORY XVI. could desire. To retrace their
steps to the sanctuary of the old Fathers of the
Reformation would now be a long and toilsome
journey. They can reach the girdle of FRAIVIS
of Assisium, or the white habit and beads of Do-
MINICK, in a third the time that it would take them

to rejoin the ranks of LATIMER, RIDLEY, JEWEL,
BARROW, and TILLOTSON.

But what are the Prelates doing? Are they
slumbering, as usual, upon the watch-towers of

the Church ? Does the business of secular legis-
lation engross their minds at a time when the
foundations of the Reformation are undermined

—when the pillars of that creed which they con-
tend secures Gospel light to the people of Eng-
land are shaken by the no longer shrivel-
led arm of Papacy ? These dumb dogs
of Israel, so enormously overpaid for protecting
the sleeping flock, hear with voiceless indiffer-
ence the ravages of the wolves among them.
We are aware that in their visitation Charges
three Prelates condemned verbally the pro-
ceedings of the Puseyites, but such tepid condem-
nations have not produced, and were not intended
to have produced, any beneficial effect. his not
thus the lordly prelates would act were a single
tithe pig withheld from the voracious maw of the
Church. Then would their loud and angry
barkings be heard from the summits of holy
places. Then would the ecclesiastical courts be

in a ferment of episcopal zeal; and citation follow
citation, and costs be added to costs, till the ruin
of the body, and the excommunication of the
soul of the loathsome offender served as a warn-
ing to all future lay-devourers of tithe-pigs of
the dreadful consequences of any inroad upon the
prescriptive rights of Holy Church.

The Liberal Press and the people might leave
the Church to take care of herself, were her pro-
fessors driving in any other direction than that
of Rome. But as a junction with the Papal See`
would remove every chance of a peaceful refor-
mation of those civil and religious abuses
which deform our National Establishment—as
it would fill the country with mummeries

totally at variance with the simple and severe
piety of the English character—as it would more
or less restrict_ freedom of opinion—as it would
increase and confirm the power of the priesthood,
by enabling them, through the means of confes-
sion, to impose cruel shackles upon the minds of
the working classes—as it would bring all these
evils upon us, we consider it the duty of the Li-

beral Press and the people to discharge that duty
to the Church which is so shamefully neglected
by pampered Prelates, and rosy-gilled Doctors
ofDivinity, wallowing in pluralities of fat rectories.

The Session of the States of Hanover was
opened on the 2d instant by Commission. The
Royal Commissioner, chosen to be the mouth-
piece of King EnalEsr, whose disinclination to
meet his Parliament face to face is natural
enough, on political grounds, was Prince BER-
NARD, of Solms-Braunfels. The following is a
translation of the specchl:—
" Gentlemen,--The King, our gracious master, having
resolved not to take part in any public solemnity during
the period or mourning in which a painful loss, which is
felt by all of us, has plunged him, has confided to me
the honourable task of opening the Session, and of
making the following communication to you in his
name. In the first place, the King had no intention of
convoking the Assembly at so early a period, but the
settlement of the indirect taxes requires a new law with-
out delay, for which your co-operation is necessary. This
affair is urgent, for at the beginning of next year the
Duchy of Brunswick will cease to form part of the Customs'
Union; the present Session will also have to take into
consideration other important objects. His Majesty in-
vites you to resume the deliberations which were only
interrupted by the necessity which compelled him to dis-
solve suddenly the last Assembly. Among them are
project of measures concerning railroads, the extension
of the institution of redemption of forced work for the
State, the regulation of contracts between peasants, and
the civil position of the Jews. The King does not doubt,
but that in this respect you will take into consideration,
and will support in earnest his benevolent intentions
towards the country. The Government will also
submit to you•propositions concerning the army ; they
are fotinded on our duties towards the Germanic Confe-
deration, which' has the high mission to regulate, and
maintain the general- force 'of the armies of our com-
mon country of GerinanY. A conscientious anxiety for
the internal" and external safety of the state, the prin-
ciple which demands that the State should be powerful
in order to defend the righti of all Germany like our
Own ; the political duty Of never exposing ourselves to be
ttaaktieon;anawares by events, and paralysed in our means
of action; all these considerations permit no hesi-
tation
you nor:useless reflection. His Majesty hope's that
will
not lose sight of these considerations, and
thathe you will faithfully second in this respect the
In efforts of his Majesty for the general good.
I d. order to attain these different objects new demands of
lexedindispensable but his Majesty hopes that it
etwarixellesit3n. not be necessary to t;oiihbgurlthGeond thbelesStattehiwsithh new
country ! In the name of the King, ansd by virtauepof
the powers which I hold frota.Ms Majesty, I declare the
Session open."

The French Journals have duly reached us
In our Summary we hav
e recorded their opinions.
uponol h
subjects in their editorial only
general news they contain we
ct
Whatp political titl
give in the following extracts
the 2d
Our Correspondent at Toulon, writes toiison
" The ships are taking in six months provisions,
making every other preparation for sailing on
at latest. Thus Admiral La Susse will have Undere him
six ships of the line,
the Calypso frigate, two
ti
three brigs, and S. steam-ship. This is a good
sion for a Rear-Admiral ; but we shall still be infe-
rior to the English, who have twelve ships of the
line at Malta . and in the Levant, which have
been reinforced by the Monarch, and soon will be
joined by the Queen. We have remaining at Toulouse
three three-deckers, and five two-deckers, but two of
these are under repair, and three are armed en fete, so
that Admiral Hugon has only a disposable force of three
ships armed en guerre. Admiral La Susse's instructions
are said to be to cruise off the mouth of the Dardanelles,
so as to prevent the Turkish fleet from coming out, or
at least from attacking Greece or Tunis. The-Diademe
of the line has sailed with 500 men for the 61st Regi-
ment of the line, and 500 for the 3d Light Infantry.
both of which are in the province of Constantine, but
these detachments are not sufficient to fill up the voids,
which will require 300 more for each regiment. Every
year the regiments in Africa are reduced one-third of
their effective force by death, by leave granted to inva-
lids, and by final discharge from service. Troops are
daily
coming is from the surrounding villages. Two
additional battalions are
about to be sent to the 19th of

8,000,000 people, banded together by a senti-
ment of hostility to the Church which these
Noble Lords favour, and beeauise they are sen.
sible that they and their Church have given
these 8,000,000, by long oppression, a just reason
for their hostility. They are now obliged, in
sorrow and anxiety, to eat " the fruit of their
own doings," and are now paying the penalty of
the wrongs committed by themselves and their
ancestors.

By a second ordinance, of the same date, the Arc]
bishop of Dudes is nominated Archbishop of Cambrai.-
Moniteur.

A private letter from Bayonne states that two im-
portant_ measures have just been taken by the Regent
of Spain, viz., the dissolution of the Cortes, and the
change of the Ministry. Senor Olozaga, the Spanish
Ambassador at Paris, :s to be the President of 'the
.future Council of Ministers.

General Rumigny is to set out for Toulon to-day.
Ife takes with him M. Bourbaki, captain of infantry ;
M. Dejean, officer of cavalry, son of General Dejean,
Member of the Chamber of Deputies.
M. Lamartine arrived at Paris yesterday:—Consti.
tutionne4

The son of the Prince of Hesse-Philippsthal-Barche-
feld, who was a navel cadet in the service of Denmark,
died at Copenhagen, on the 20th ult. The Danish Court
has gone into mourning on the occasion.
The Imperial Family of Russia have moved into St.
Petersburgh for the winter, from Zarskoe Zelo.
The Brussels Independent states, that M. de Potter
has been summoned before the examining Magistrate to
undergo an interrogatory concerning the late conspiracy.
Colonel Schenofski, commandant of the company of
veterans, has been examined on the same affair.
The Gazette de France, in quoting further advices
from Monaco, but without dates, says that the bread-
monopoly has been actually abolished by the Prince, and
that several imposts, against which the people had long
protested, have been modified. It adds, that the nota-
bilities of the State are now endeavouring to obtain the
establishment of mnnicipalities ; that everything has
passed with perfect order, and that the changes have
been effected by the simple accession of the Prince to the
wishes of the people.

BELGIAN FUNDS—BausalLa, DSc. 7.
Actual Debt, 2% per Cent.
Rothschild's Loan, 5 per Cent ......«.«.«.« 10134
Loan of Thirty Millions, 4 per 92
3per

Thirty.egven•

13
Loan of City, 1932,4 per ( Cent.4o) 101•••••••••••4 97
Society of Commerce, 44 per
—,
Bank of Belgium, 5 perCe, 4
National Society 00000 •••••••••••••••NON•M••••••
Ex(-

;change on Condon (short)
—Brussels Papers, Dec. 7.
AUSTRIAN FUNDS.—VIENNA, Nov. 29.
fire per Cogs. Metalliques . .............. 101
Fow r per Cents. ..... • •••••••••••• .......... Ogle. 99%
Three per Cents. ••••••••••••••••• 74%
Bank Shares -•• ••••••‘• .11,....•••••• 1606
...4tigemeine Zeitung.

We hear that the Infant Prince is to be named
Albert Edward, after his Royal father and
grandfather, and that the Queen Dowager and
the Duke of Saxe-Coburg are to be sponsors.—
Brighton Gazette.

INDIA ARMS INN, GOSPORT.—The grand din-
ner lately given to the Directors of the South-
ampton Railway, at the Star, in Gosport, and
which gave such very_great satisfaction, was pro-
vided by Mr. Thomas Attrill, of the India Arms
Inn, Gosport. The excellence of the entertain-
ment was, and still is, the generaltheme of praise,
not only in that town, but also in Portsmouth
and the neighbourhood, where the good taste of
Mr. Attrill is deservedly extolled.
EDINBURGH, DEC. B.—(FROM A CORRESPON-
DENT.)—Your readers are well aware of the cruel
prosecution and imprisonment of the shopkeeper
for selling sweetmeats on Sunday, and for whom
Lord Kinnaird, through The Sun, subscribed
three guineas, to mark his detestation of such
conduct. The persecuted man brought an action
against the Magistrates, who, finding that law,
common-sense, and religion were against them,
have agreed to compromise the matter by paying
to Butters 101. as a compensation. The Serious
Baillie appears also to be rather puzzled about
his notice for prohibiting the sale of liquors in
public-houses on Sunday, and at the meeting of
the Town Council on Tuesday postponed his mo-
tion. The people here begin to see what the
Non-Intrusionists really mean.

MONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS.
CITY, THURSDAY EVENING.
Money is still rather easier, though comparatively
high in the City, yet this > does not operate prejudi-
cially upon the Public Securities, for to-day the
Market was steady, with a moderate business doing. For
present transfer Consols were steady at 891, special bar-
gains, and for the opening in January and ex-dividend
881 to 881. The premium "on the unfunded debt was firm
at 10s. to 12s. for the 1,0001., and at 10s. to 13s. for the
5001. and the small bills. East India Bonds were rather
lower, being at 1 prem. to Is. dis. Bank Stock supported
its value, realising 165 to 165 i. The Reduced Three-
and-a-Half per Cent. Annuities were at 981 to 981, the
Three per Cents. at 881 to 88,1, and the New Three-
and-a-Half per Cents. for Money, the transfer books
being shut, at 991. The Three-and-a-Half per Cents.
of 1818 were at 98.

The Foreign Market, though having lost a good deal
of its buoyancy, does not give way. The Spanish Secu-
rities have to-day been at 241,1 to 24*, for the Active, with
limiiedbaSiness only Land 5- for the Passive. Portu-
guesel•reVFlVe Per Centi. were dull at 33+, Mexican at
26 to 263;"iiiil Brazilian at 64i ; Dutch Two-and-a-
Half per COO, were at 51 s.
The Shici'es were rather animated, and in several in-
stances au- 'advance took place in their value. Great
„Western were done at 194- ; London and Birmingham at
71 to 73; Quarter Ditto at 181 ; York and North Mid-
land at 37 to 38, New Ditto at 151 ; Manchester and
Leeds, Quarter, at 11 ; and South Western at 171 to 181
prem. Brighton were 131; Blackwall, 151; Manchester
and Leeds, 6 to 4; North Midland, 34; New Ditto, 61;
Northern and Eastern, 12k; and Midland Counties, 181
dis. Loudon Joint Stock Bank Shares were 2-1 prem.,
and National Provincial of England remained at dis.

(From The Sun of Last Night.).
LIVERPOOL. COTTON MARKET, DEC. B.—The business
in the Cotton Market to-day comprises 2,500 bales only,
all to the trade, at Friday's quotations.
LIVERPOOL SHARE MARKET, DEC. B.—The transac-
tions reported are in Eastern Counties, 74 ; Grand
Junction, 200 ; Great Western, half Shares' 58f ; Lon-
don and Birmingham, 162 ; ditto new, 26 ; London and
Brighton, 36i ; Midland Counties, 811.
MANCHESTER STOCK EXCHANGE, DEC. B.—Our mar-
ket continues much in the same state as yesterday. Lon-
don and Birmingham, Quarters, 22 ; Manchester and
Leeds, Quarters, 3L 13s. and 31. 12s. 6d. ; Manchester
and Birmingham, 25 ; Bank of Manchester, 4i ; Man-
chester Assurance Company, 9L 3s. 9d.
The Home Securities opened this morning at the
closing prices of yesterday. Consols for the Account
are now 881 ; Three-and-a-Half per Cents. Reduced,
98-41; Bank Stock, 165 a 1651 ; Exchequer Bills 10 a 12
premium.

In the Foreign Market there is no alteration, and
scarcely any business doing. Spanish Active Stock Lis
24+ 4 ; Passive, 5 ; Deferred, 121 ; Portuguese Five
per Cents, 33 a 331 ; Ditto, Three per Cents., 191 20.
The English Market remain without any variation,
and nothing doing, Consols for the Account are 88/ ; •
Three and-a-Half per Cents. Reduced, 98* ; Bank Stock,
16.51 ; Three per Cents. Reduced, 88i1; Exchequer
Bills, 10 12 premium.
In the Foreign Market the transactions have been very
limited. Spanish Active Stock was last quoted 244 ;
Portuguese Five per Cents. 331 4 ; Dutch Two-and-a-
Half per Cents. Mi ; Mexican, 261.
The Share Market has generally improved, although
the operations have not been extensive. London and
Birmingham have reached 163, one per cent. upon the
highest quotation of yesterday. London and Brighton
are steady at 36 to 361' York and North Midland, 88;
Ditto New Shares, 30+; Great Western have also im-
proved 2 per cent. since yesterday, having been last done
at 88, and the New Shares 59+,
The public have not yet ceased to regard the Exchequer
bill affair with interest and attention, and anxious inquiries
are made as to whether Rapallo has again been captured,
or what were the new charges intended to be brought
against him by Government. It has been stated in
some quarters that the payment of the forged bills
is a matter decided on, but even in that case the Ministry
are only likely to get credit for the measure on the ground
of their wishing to evade further investigation.
Consols, 881 -8- ; Spanish, 2,1 i , Mexican, 26i ;
Portuguese Five per Cents., 33i.

CLOSING PRICES
BRITISH FUNDS.
Bank Stock ... 163 'lndia Stock ...............
3 per Cent Red. BBh Ditto Bonds
3 per Cent Cons B9} Ditto Old Annuities ...
3i per Cent Red 9Bh !Ditto New Annuities...
New 3i per Cent 991 'Ex. Bills, 1,000/....2id 10pm
New 5 per Cent .. ' Ditto 500/ l3 pnt
Long Annuities toexpire Ditto Small. .
Jan 1860 l2i 'Bank Stock for Acct...
Oct 1859 'lndia Stock for Acct....
Jan. 1860. Consols for Acct BB}
FOREIGN FUNDS.

Austrian, 5 per cent Portuguese, 5 per cent.
' Belgian, 5 per cent Ditto, New Ditto 33*
Brazihan 80nd5.... 64i Prussian, 5 per cent.
Buenos Ayres, 6 per cot -. Russian, 5 per cent —
Chilian, 6 per cent..... -- Ditto, Metallic —
Colombian, 6 per cent.. :-.- Spanish, 5 per cent 24h
Ditto, 1824.
Danish, 3 per cent — French, 5 per cent. —f. —c.
Greek, 1825, 5 per cent — Exchange f. .—c.
Mexican, 5 per cent.... French, 3 per cent —f. —c ,
Ditto, 6 per cent, 1625 Dutch, 2i per cent bli
Peruvian.lB2s, 6 per et. Ditto, 5 per cent.
SHARES.

Bristol and Exeter (60 paid) .. . ... .. 274
Great Western Railway( 65 laid)
Ditto New Shares (50 paid)
Ditto Fifth (4 paid)
91
London and Brighton (50 paid) 36i
London and Blackwall Railway (25 paid)... 9i
London and Birmingham (90) ......... ... .. 163
Ditto Quarter Shares ( 5 paid) 23A
Ditto New Shares ( 2 paid)
London and Greenwich Railway (20 pd) 6A
London and South Western
Manchester and Leeds (70 paid) ••• .. 64
Ditto Quarter Shares ( .2 paid) 3l
North Midland Railway (100) Ditto New Shares (40 paid 331
Ditto Thirds (15 paid)
York and North Midland Railway (50 paid) 83
Ditto New Shares (15 paid)
......._____

PRIVY COUNCIL.-.—He? Majesty, it is ex-
pected,
will hold a Privy Connell at
Windsor Castle to-
-day, at which a ProclamitiOn will be agreed to.
further Proroguing Parliament from Tuesday, the 21st
inst., to a day on which the. Legislature will meet for the
dispatch of business.

- -- -: ,
,
the line. If Tletnecen and the camp of Tafna tre,to be
again occupied, an additional effective force of 6,000 men
will be required before the spring."—Courrier Fresicisi i
A Royal Ordinance, of the 2d of December; creat as
the Bishopric of Cambray into a metroplitan seemri 1.
the Bishopric of Arias as a suffragan, and authiarik t,
the publication in France of the Bull given at Rome
this effect.