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his execution of his duty, and that such an article
ai he held in his hand should be put into the press.
He asked the House whether that was a right mode of
proceeding ?—[Sir Thomas Feeemantle here left the
House apparently provoking the lion. Member by
the interruption which his walking out occasioned.
The Hon. Member proceeded to say that he
complain of the interruption, inasmuch as he had at all
times a difficulty in making himself understood from the
delicate state of his health. Looking at the privileges of th,
House, he would ask them if they did not pay dearly for the
advantages derived from the liberty of the press, by al-
lowing those anonymous slanders to be scattered abroad
against all parties who, no matter for what motives,
might deem it their duty to take part in public
life. He would ask if there were any Hon. Gentle-
men who had read that article, and who had known him
since he had first entered on public life ? He would
ask if there was anything in his conduct, public or
private, that could justify any man in thus attempt
ing—he did not care whether he succeeded or not—
in thus attempting to depreciate him in the esti-
mation of the world by such an attack as that ?
He would ask was it for the benefit of the world at large
that such proceedings should be permitted ? He would
ask the house to consider that point. One of two things
must be the consequence, either the public, for the sake
of their own security, would demand that every man
should put his name to the articles which he published, or
a Bill must be brought in requiring that every article
published in a newspaper should have a name affixed to
it of a person who should bear the responsibility. He
wished to know whether it was to be suffered that Mem-
bers of that House should be attempted to be frightened
from executing their duty or not ? He should continue
to do his duty without reference to such attacks as these ;
but he chose to take these means of expressing his
opinion, and of calling for the opinion of the constituen-
cies of Hon. Members, to whom he put it, to mark their
approbation or their disapprobation of the course of pro-
ceeding which such a newspaper as that had chosen to
adopt. Before he finished he would suggest to any
one who might be more sensitive than himself—for he
was not to be deterred by these attacks—but to those
who might be more sensitive, he would suggest an in-
fallible remedy for these evils. Extraordinary evils re-
quired extraordinary remedies. The parties making the
attack were irresponsible, and beyond reach. They
could not be got at, either by law or by opinion ; but
if any Hon. Member were attacked by the Times, and
did not wish for a repetition of the attack, he would
suggest to him to horsewhip the proprietor, Mr. Walter,
and he might depend on it the attack would not be re-
peated.
Here the Hon. Member was interrupted by loud cries
of " Order," and
Sir ROBERT INGLIS asked if he intended to con-
clude with a motion ?

Mr. ROEBUCK would not make any motion.

Sir R. INGLIS said that the Hon. Ylember had occu-
pied the time of the House needlessly and unnecessarily.
He had not condescended to state who his calumniators
were. The Hon. Member was here interrupted by loud
cries of " Order."

Mr. ROEBUCK would ask the Speaker, whether the
course he had adopted was not a usual one ?
The SPEAKER said the more regular course was for
an Hon. Member who complained of a newspaper article
to move that it be read by the Clerk, and then to move
that the printer be called to the bar, and that the
motion could be persevered in or not as the Hon. Member
thought fit.
Mr. ROEBUCK said, that when ho rose, he stated
that he was aware he had the power of moving that the
printer be brought to the Bar of the House. Ho thought
to save the time of the House by the course which he
had pursued. If the Hon. Member for Oxford insisted
upon it, he would make the motion.
Sir R. INGLIS—I insist upon nothing.
The SPEAKER said the course was decidedly irre-
gular.
Mr. ROEBUCK said he would move, then, that the
printer of the Times newspaper be called to the bar.
The Clerk was then proceeding to read the article,
when

Mr. ROEBUCK interrupted him by observing that he
was not reading the paragraph of which he complained,
and the Hon. Member proceeded to read it himself. It
commenced with the word, " Amidst the pauses in the
melodious voices of Mr. Hawes and Mr. Ward," and
concluded with " the one shilling gentlemen at Drury-
lane."
Sir G. CLERK said before the Hon. Member could
make his motion for calling the printer to the bar, there
must be a preliminary one—viz„ that the passage was a
breach of the privileges of the House.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that he had always understood
that' Hon. Members were allowed to state what their
feelings were in these cases. He had asked permission
to state his personal feelings in reference to the attack,
and he was surprised that the Hon. Member for Oxford
in particular should have refused him that right.
Sir R. INGLIS said, if it were in his power he would
certainly address a few words to the House in answer to
the Hon. Member's remarks, but he had no right to
claim such an indulgence.
Mr. ROEBUCK then moved that the paragraph was
a breach of the privileges of that House, but no Hon.
Member seconding the motion it consequently fell to
the ground.

SU- DENHAM NORREYS gave notice that, after the
recess, he would move for every paper in the possession
of Government which might throw light on the subject of
elections, with a view to remove the impressions which
the exaggerated statements respecting the elections
were calculated to produce.
Dr. BOWRING gave notice that on Monday, the 20th
of September, he would more for returns, showing
whether any increase had taken place in the duties on
the exports and imports of Syria since its restoration to
the Sultan.

Mr. GREENE withdrew the resolution of which he had
given notice respecting Members' qualification.
Sir G. CLERK moved that the House, at its rising,
do adjourn to Thursday the 16th instant.—Agreed to.
Lord PALMERSTON asked whether it was the in-
tention of Government to proceed with the business
which they intended to propose to Government without
any further adjournment ?
Sir G. CLERK replied, that when the First Lord of
the Treasury took his seat, which he (Sir G. Clerk) ex-
pected the Right Hon. Baronet would be able to do on
the 16th inst., the Right Hon. Baronet would then state
the course he proposed to adopt.
Sir T. FREMANTLE propoted the first reading of
the Administration of Justice Bill.

Lord PALMERSTON seconded the motion.
Sir T. FItEMANTLE was glad that the Bill was in
the hands of the Noble Lord opposite, and he believed
it would meet with no opposition from the party with
which he acted.

Mr. WAKLEY said the Noble Lord and all parties
joined in passing an high eulogium upon the Noble Lord
the late Chancellor. Now, was it not a pity
that they should lose so good an oppor-
tunity of providing against the recurrence of such
a calamity in future ? Was it not a pity that they should
lose the services of so good a judge, merely because
there was a change of administration ? The disjunction
of the political and judicial functions of the Chancellor
would prove one of the most useful reforms, and the most
acceptable to the public, of any judicial one that could
be brought forward.
Mr. C. BULLER agreed in all that had fallen from
the Hon. Member for Finsbury, but the political and
judicial functions of the Chancellorship could not be dis-
joined by the Bill before the House as it would require
many provisions to carry it into effect. He hoped the pre-
sent Government would take the matter into early consider-
ation ; if not, he could assure the House that there were
many on that (the Opposition) side who would endeavour
to carry the disunion into effect.

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS,

The Bill was then read a first time, and ordered to be
read a second time on the 17th instant.
The House then adjourned.

THE NEW MINISTRY.

It is expected her Majesty will hold a Privy Council
at Claremont to-day or Friday morning, before leaving
for Windsor Castle.
Sir James Graham, Sir Henry Ilardinge, and other
members of the Cabinet, visited Sir Robert Peel yester-
day morning, in Whitehall-gardens.
Sir William Martins, Deputy Lord Chamberlain, and
Igr. Frederick Shaw (Recorder for Dublin), had inter-
views with the Right Hon. Baronet yesterday morning.
Sir George Clerk and Sir Thomas Fremantle, joint
Secretaries of the Treasury, had a long interview with
the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday morning in
Downing-street.
It is said that Mr. William Gladstone does not vacate
his seat by accepting the office of Vice President of the
Board of Trade. There is, however, a difference of
opinion on the point.

FROM THE DAILY PAPERS OF YESTERDAY.

GLOBE.—The Times of this morning commenced an
article in its own peculiar style upon the nuisance of
what it calls a sort of one-shilling-gallary-class in the
present House of Commons," whose hindrance to pub-
lic business is really a serious annonyance to those who
come to Parliament not to behave rudely, but to legislate.
That there is such a party in the House we are well
aware ; but it consists of Conservatives rather than of
Radicals, and the only duties its members appear capa-
ble of performing are the supporting or damning. as
the case may be, any legislative drama or farce that the
Tories may wish to be received with applause, or con-
demned without even being listened to. This system
of engaging claqueurs should, we think, be left to the
theatrical managers ; for, if it is carried much further
in Parliament, we may expect to find Sir Robert
Peel called for at the end of a speech, and Lord
Stanley greeted with showers of bouquets, as Rubini
(not his Lordship's superior in astonishing roulades and
remarkable falsetto passages) is inundated with floral
trophies at the termination of an opera. We really
think the Lower House would not suffer much in
character and respectability by the exclusion of
those Honourable Members whose facilities in imi-
tating fhe crowing of a cock, or the braying of an
ass, are the only attributes brought into play in the dis-
charge of their senatorial functions. Perhaps the ac-
complishment that enables some of these gentlemen to
utter sounds like those emitted by a donkey, would not
be thought so surprising if it were only to be remem-
bered that nature may have even more to do with
it than art; and that " braying" is an easy and perfectly
natural, instead of a difficult and acquired, mode in
which to express themselves. Perhaps, as the legisla-
tive pieces to be produced in the ensuing season by the
Tory manager* will be intended to succeed, the human
attributes of the claqueurs will be put into more than
usual requisition, and "hear, hear" will be substituted
for "cock-a-doodle-doo," as the substance of their future
speeches in Parliament.
STANDARD—What do the Protestants of Ireland
care about Ministerial offices ? Is is not enough for
them to see that they have no enemies in the Cabinet—
that we are all to be governed by the statesmen who
in 1835 sacrificed office rather than desert the Pro-
testant Church, and who have since fought the battle
of the Protestant cause for the last seven years ? If
they doubt the character of the new Government, let
them read Mr. O'Connell's last speech. But the
leaders of the Irish Protestant party are neglected. We
know of no leader of an Irish Protestant party ; we
know, indeed, of men who destroyed the Irish Protestant
party eight or nine years ago, but we know now of no Pro-
testant party in its leaders. We know of the Protestant
party of the empire, but we know its leaders to have been
for years such men as the Duke of Newcastle, the
Duke of Buckingham, Lord Lowther, Sir Edward
Knatchbull, and others. But we find the son of the
Duke of Newcastle in office ; we find the Duke of Buck-
ingham in the third place in the Cabinet, in official rank
preceding even the Premier ; we find Lord Lowther in
office ; we find Sir Edward Knatchbull in office ; and,
an appointment which will rejoice every sincere Pro-
testant, we find Colonel Perceval in office. If we do
rot find other men as good in office also—Lords Win-
chilsea, Lorton, Farnham, Sir Richard Vyvyan, Sir Ro-
bert Inglis—it is because office has no charms for them.
But the heads of the Protestant party in the United King-
dom have had their full share in the disposal of offices
—and the Protestants of Ireland know that they may
trust them. Were any ill intentions towards the
Protestant cause entertained exactly the opposite
course would be pursued. " The Irish leaders" would
be secured by place, which has never failed to
secure them, and the " impracticable ultras" of England
would be carefully excluded. But would we have it in-
ferred from this that the design of the new Government
is not to use all the means that ought to conciliate the
Roman Catholics of Ireland ? Certainly not. Sir R. Peel will
unquestionably employ all such means—and he ought to do
so, for he is called to administer impartially the government
of a whole people. He may fail—it were wrong to say he
will fail—but he may fail ; but in what position will
such a failure place him and the Irish Protestants who
shall co-operate with him 2—in that high position of
power and character which is always the reward of well
doing . Irish Protestants ought to believe us when we
promise this, because we have never made them a
promise which has not been fulfilled to the letter.
We told them in 1836, that by dissolving the Orange
Societies they would arm all England in their favour.
The elections of 1841 will tell whether we were right.
Let them heartily support and implicitly confide in Sir
Robert Peel's Government—we promise them if they
do so, if not victory, what is better, the fruit of victory
without the pain of a contest.

STEAM NAVIGATION TO INDIA.

LATEST MANCHESTARBETTING.

TUESDAY EVENING.
The attendance was very good this forenoon, but no
business was done ; therefore we shall simply refer the
reader to the London prices :
THE LEAMINGTON STAKES.-4 to lon the field.
TUE ST. LEGER.-7 to 4 on Coronation (offered).

STATE OF TRADE.
(From the Manchester Guardian.)
MANCHESTER.—The comparative activity which pre-
vailed in our market last week appears to have en-
tirely subsided, and yesterday was marked by an al-
most entire absence of demand, either for yarn or goods.
With respect to yarn, this might bo owing, in some
degree, to the non• arrrival of the litunburgh mail ; but
we are not aware of any special cause for the flatness in
the goods' market, which,• after the improvement that
appeared last week, has considerably surprised and dis-
appointed the manufacturers.
ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, SEPT, 6,--AVO have
had a steady demand for flannels to-day, and the mer-
chants have purchased freely at former prices. In the
wool market there is no change, and prices continue firm.
HUDDERSFIELD MARKET, TUESDAY, SEPT. 7.—We
hare still to notice considerable activity in this market,
especially in fancy woollens, which are sought after with
avidity, Inde;ad the demand is such, that heavy orders
are in hand, and prim; are necessarily. improved. In
olains there is a miserable flatness, which causes much
distressr in certain quarters ; but, on the whole, a fair
business is doing. Wools are decidedly looking up,

In lobking over a file of Indian papers, it is particularly
interesting to observe the growing attention which is
paid to steam navigation in India, and the expectations
which are indulged in as to the advantages to be derived
from this source. From the monthly packets that are
to start from Calcutta, and proceed by Madras and
Ceylon to Suez, the inhabitants of India anticipate a
large influx of visitors from England,and frequent deputa-
tions from the East India House to watch the state of
affairs. India, it is expected, will become a new resort
for travellers for pleasure, to whom every country in
Europe has grown stale. In 45 days, it is calculated,
they will reach Calcutta from England, then embark on
a river steamer and visit the most remarkable places on
the banks, proceed to Ferozepore. take the Indus steamer
down to Kerachee, and thence take Bombay on their re-
turn home. The Indian commercial men, on the other
hand, will, it is supposed, pay frequent visits to Eng-
land, as well as natives, who, finding the difficulties of
travelling removed, will gradually throw off the restric-
tions of caste. England will be selected by the officers
of the Government when seeking the restoration of
health in preference to the Cape or Van Dieman's-land.
While on the subject of steam navigation, all con-
cerning which is in the Indian journals brought under
the wide head of " Steam matters," the energies of the
Peninsular and Oriental Company are advantageously
contrasted with the inertness of the " Comprehensives."
The constant delay of the latter in commencing opera-
tions is considered to have been their fatal error, and it
is thought that an early commencement of operations
would have led the Peninsular Company to have en-
tered into a joint concern. To show the deep interest
that is taken in the question of the merits of these Com-
panies, it may be remarked that there is scarcely a
month's file of papers in which long articles of discussion
on the subject do not appear. . . _

Among-the objects to effected by the application of
steam navigation, one most olesired is the formation of a
complete ferry system at Calcutta. The papers contain an
account of the meeting of the Steam-ferry Company, which
is said to have been much injured by over exertion. The
capital is two lacs of rupees. A small tugging steamer
of 12-horse power had been sent out at a cost of 12,000
rupees, and the London agent had signed a contract for
two vessels at a cost of 185,500. Sundry expenses had
increased this amount of expenditure to 210,000, and
altogether it was calculated that 60,000 rupees above
the capital would be required. To help the Company
out of its dilemma four plans were offered at the
meeting ; it was proposed an additional 60,00 CL should
be raised, and the undertaking, with two boats completed,
or that only one boat should be received, and the other
thrown upon the hands of the contractors, on the ground
that the vessels had not been completed in time, or that
the contract should be completed, but one of the
boats be sold ; or, finally, that both the boats should be
sold, and the Association wound up. The Company adopted
the third plan, namely, the sale of one boat at a loss of
ten percent.; an act which appears to have been considered
as very discreditable, and as showing a great want of
public spirit. The monthly income is supposed to be so
far exceeding the 60,000 rupees, that it should have been
subscribed at once. The establiShmeut of a steam-ferry
at Calcutta would, it is supposed, .draw to it all the land-
carriage of the provinces on the right bank of the Ganges,
so that Calcutta itself might be the terminus of the Be-
nares road.-- Times City Article.

DREADFUL SUICIDE AT HORNSEY WOOD.
—On Tuesday a coroner's inquest was taken before Mr.
Wakley, M.P., at Hornsey- wood House Tavern, Horn-
sey, on view of the body of Mr. Jonathan Ogden, aged
24, a hatter, who was found with his throat cut in
Hornsey-wood. The finding of the body having been
proved., policeman Sands, N 369, stated that he searched
the pockets of the leceased. From one of them ho took
a letter, which led to the discovery of the deceased's re-
lations. The letter, which was addressed to Mr. Wm.
Ogden, Laurence Pountney-lane, his cousin, was as fol.
lows:—" Dear cousin—Please to send word that I am
dead and no mistake. Give my love to my mother and all
the rest. It is now about three o'clock. Excuse writing so
bad, but I have done my best. Give my respects to Ed-
ward Cook's wife, and God bless them. I may be no
more as soon as dark. Give my respects to brother John.
God bless all. Give my love to all. JONATHAN OGDEN."
The Coroner inquired whether there was any further
evidence ? Crouch, the summoning officer, said that
the deceased's relations had promised to attend, but that
they had not arrived. He had seen the cousin, who in-
formed him that for some time past the deceased had
threatened to destroy his life. He had been married 18
months, and had no family. For the last few months he
had appeared dejected. On Thursday last he was with a
friend, when, on leaving him, he observed that he could
not attend to business, and he stated to him that he was
then going to take a walk in the fields, after which ho
would sit down and die, Ile showed a letter to his cousin,
who said that it was In the deceased's handwriting.
Verdict, "'Temporary insanity."
A lecture on Idolatry was delivered at the
Old Hill chapel, Brighton, on Monday afternoon,
by Gurney, Esq., to a crowded assembly, The lec-
turer produced an assortment of " Gods," consisting of
pieces of wood of various shapes and sizes, a black stone
with a hole through the centre, in the crevices of which
he stated the natives considered a God to reside and that
proper persons were employed to pour water through to
keep him cool in that hot climate, (India), a large shell,
bunch of feathers,. Sze. The feathers are supposed to
possess the power of healing wounds when placed on the
injured parts. The Gods of Images were those con-
stantly worshiped by the inhabitants of those countries,
==.Brighton Guard*.

_ . .
___ We have before us a very large cherry, recently
DusuN,
pulled
from a tree in Captain Brien's garden. From its
Pennefather. Q, C., is to be the new Lord Chancellor. size, and the lateness of the season, it has been a subject
SEP. 6.—lt is stated to-day that Mr. .
Dr. Lefro who sought the Chancellorship, is to be ap- of admiration to several who have scon ft.—Enniskillen
y,
peased by a peerage, and his t„,..con is to be appointedl Chronicle.
who resigns SIR JOSHUA WALMSLEY.—He had arrived
Chairman of Kilmainharn, vice Blacker,
in LiVerpOol by the railway, after a journey of consider-
for do occasion. The general opinion here ,is, that
Mr. Lucas, lW Member for Monaghan, will be the new able length, and on alighting from the carriage ho found
Under-Secretary, mr, George Alexander Hamilton has a difficulty in using his right leg, owing to a stiffness ap-
it is asserted that Sir Robert reel is unwilling also been much spoken of for the saais office. By some parently caused by holding it long in the same position.
that any i ..in attempting to walk, two of the muscles close to the
Irish Tory should•be placed In this important office, knee suddenly broke, n o
s so completely disabled him
Over the door of a vender of varieties in a coon-
that he was obliged to be conveyed 'home. Sir Joshua
is coafwed to hill resideuce,—i-Liverpoi Courier.'
try village is--" Licentious dealer in Backey and Snug,"