The Sun.
London, England, 1847-06-08 00:00:00

THE CASE OF MARY DAWSON.

Mr. FERRAND gave notice that on the House
going into a Committee of Supply, he would move that
copies of the correspondence which had passed between
the Secretary of State for the Home Department and
the magistrates in the case of Mary Dawson be laid
upon the table of the House.
SPIRITS (IRELAND).
Sir ROBERT FERGUSON moved far a return of
the accounts of the produce of the Excise duty received
on spirits in Ireland during each of the years ending the
sth day of April, 1846 and 1847, and the number of
gallons brought to charge, showing the increase or de-
crease in gallons and in duty. Also of the number of
gallons of spirits brought to charge in Ireland, and the
duty paid thereon, in the quarters ending respectively
April 5, 1846 and 1847, showing the increase or decrease.
Also of the number of gallons of proof spirits (distin-
guishing the quantities produced from malt, and from a
mixture of anti unmalted grain) on which duty
itu re
was paid for home consumption in Ireland in each
quarter of the years ending respectively the sth day
of April, 1846 and 1847, and in each of the years.
Also of the number of detections, and of the number
of persons prosecuted for offences in Ireland against
the laws for the suppression of illicit distillation, in
each quarter of the years ending respectively the sth
day of April, 1846 and 1847, distinguishing those con-
victed. Also of the number of persons confined in each
gaol in Ireland, for offences against the laws for the sup-
pression of illicit distillation, on the sth day of January,
the sth day of March, and the sth day of April, in each
of the years 1846 and 1847 (in continuation of Parlia-
mentary Paper, No. 361, of Session 1846).
Motion agreed to.
HULKS AT WOOLWICH.
Colonel ROLLESTON asked the Secretary of State
for the Home Department when the report and the evi-
dence taken before the Committee respecting the hulks
at Woolwich would be laid before the House ?
Sir G. GREY said that
tthaet,raesposretenanads thhaeheavdidteimncee,
were very voluminous, and h
he would examine and see if all, or
what part of it,
should be printed and laid before the House.
NORFOLK ISLAND.
Lord MAHON asked the Under-Secretary for the
Home Department whether it was proposed that Norfolk
Island should be retained as a penal settlement?
Mr. HAWES said that instructions had been given to
the Lieutenant-General to use his discretion regarding
it, but in case it should not be continued as a penal settle-
ment, care would be taken that the Government build-
ings should not go to ruins.

AFFAIRS OF PORTUGAL.
Lord G. BENTINCK said, seeing the Hon. Gentleman

the Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) n his place, I
with to press upon him the desirableness of postponing
his motion with respect to the affairs of Portugal from
Thursday to Monday next, if it can be done with the
consent of the Government; but I doubt not but the i
Go'
vernment will willingly exchange the day for which t
has been fixed, as there appears to he every reason to
expect that the correspon&Lce in the report will prove
very volumnious; and it is only right as that corres-
pondence has not yet been placed on the
table of the House that a postponement should take
place, in order that Hon. Members may have an opper"
amity of perusing it. If it should be placed on tbe
table of the House to-night, it would not be in the and'
of Hon. Members before Wednesday mornings !Id
as there is an early sitting on that day, hitt
time would be afforded to Honourable Meow'
to make themselves acquainted with their contents.
This is a question on which it would not be well for the
House to come to a decision without having all the
papers before it. This short Bala y would not be a matter
of serious consequence, as the troops of the insurgents
had been arrested in several attempts, in r order to
obtain a day in which his motion could be bronzht fo:
ward, Thursday was fixed upon by the common conseni
of the House—(Hear, hear)—and no party was mora
anxious to have the motion brought forward on
Thursday than the Noble Lord and his friends.'"
cElear, hear)—and as he was not aware
orrespondence was beyond a research of 24 or 48 y
on eargtl
he should persist in bringing forward his motion tlit. t
day ; in fact, he had made an arrangement which wen
on
!
makeit utterly impossible for him to be in the House
Monday. The House had fixed Thursday. Se wish
to continue to it.

The conversation then dropped.
HOLYHEAD HARBOUR. foll owing
Mr. WARD moved the appointment of the
Committee on this subject:—Mr. W. 0. Stanley, My
Sandon, Colonel Pennant, Earl Grosvenor, Mr•
roles,
ton (Dublin county), Mr. Goulburn, AdmiralDoiye
Lord Morpeth, Mr Parker, and Mr. Ward, wi.,tb
Members to be chosen by the Committee of Seleellthe
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the appointment o
mittee
Committee until they had the report of the Coin° it,
on the harbour, and the evidence adduced beforeasie„
Without meaning any disrespect to the gi.e• it
men nominated, he could not help stating
test
appeared to him that they had a direct If the
in the carrying cut of the undertaking.
apes
Committee were appointed, it would be aPra had
before the Committee to which he had rate estimate
made their report, wh ch would show that the _ts
of 600,0001. for the cost made by the Government ant.
neer was egregiously wrong, as it would be sbewoot
the testimony of Sir John Rennie, and some of the lest
eminent engineers, that the cost would be tease
2,000,0001. The very names which the Hon. Gen very
had suggested showed that he did not think
highly of the scheme ; and as a proof that the Wight
hers of the Committee were interested,
state that Mr. Stanley held 120 u° aid
which would be required for the harbour•resso,
some of the others were equally let° be ree
He moved that the consideration of this
ferred to the Committee this day fortnight. mitts.
Mr. WARD said that he did not wish the Corn wee
appointed to ilivestigate the matter to begin their 14070.0 a
until the report was before the House. He had Ocer
to believe that it would be printed and before tiler, the
mittee as early as Thursday next, and there fore
Housewould have ample time to consider tbe..„, 000'
before it was placed under discussion, and eve'', slist
elusion come to upon it. He thought, hoWeLeloeion
there ought to be no attempt to pospone the
of the the matter by a waste of time. velbe
subject
Lord SANDON thought that they ought to bad Os
evidence before the House before they alWeiataitiee la
Committee. He had no objection to the COO boa
itself, but he did think it would be advisable tfused to
that document before them before they Preaeu
take further evidence. edit°
Mr. HUME said that matter involved the orPe.th tte
of half a million of money. He fully agreed wi oinn°
Noble Lord who had last spoken, that this d:
100,
to
should be in the hands of Hon. Members. 000
a previous session moved for certain returns cea„.lo to
with the Holyhead harbour, but he had lint thong
Ile tile°, sal
follow it up, and others had not done so.
they were premature in appointing the Conw3ittes.'l4
that the evidence, it before them,
the House. 001. bid
Mr. W. COLLETT said that a sum of 150,0 sots
already been expended on Holyhead harbour. Ibree
that had already been adduced on the subjectiwe he
ficient to warrant a Committee being appoint"' at,
hoped the House would sanction that appointmenio
sp
Mr. BANKES said the question was not •r
narrow in its character as some Hon. litemusibee or
peered to think. In fact, it was a question wheh
tor
no Holyhead was the best harbour for Ennlie oof
chants that could be formed on that part of the opts
Ireland. If large sums of money were expendeu in
might possibly lavi
sneers
tog
that harbour it might prevent shipo
this country having the most desirable harbolirsol
could be established. He did not deny that Beier,.
was a very desirable harbour ; but it was, in real1;01i
question whether it was the most desirable that ether
be constructed for the merchants of Liverpool and °we,
ports in this country. The question was not, there
as he had already observed, quite so narrow 0
imagined. se; 00;
Mr. vs, ARD had never heard of the evidence till D
but, in his opinion, the question simply was,
the present Government would carry out an arre7d
meat entered into by the late Government. If bro.d;
the allegations of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
were correct, the House, he believed, would not cart/
out; but, if they were not, he thought they would. 01
Sir ROBERT PEEL said, the question was, a ees
port was the best for facilitating the intercourse bet Ica
this country and Ireland. Several inquiries ball d aft
made on the subject. An eminent civil engineer, aasor
officer of the Admiralty, hid made a report on tbevor
ject, and they concurred in reporting in favour of lie
head. Another inquiry had been made with tli_Ae beets
result, and, if he did not mistake, a third lia"seren
made, all of which took place during the last '-
years, and were in favour of that harbour. fro
Mr. ORMSBY GORE said that he was awe t° isce
the indentations of the coast, that at the other floes
there was a muck better position for a harbour Otte roe
could be at Holyhead. With regard to the 01
he had taken great interest on the subject, :daeoten
taken the opinion of many practical men,_ who b •Oa
that the anchorage was much more free from rock
that of Holyhead. al Which
After a few words from Viscount SAND%'n -
did not reach the gallery,
Mr. WARD said that it was the height of abbsotirdisl'
to go over the whole of the examination which „,oet tee
ready been taken. His sole object was to pre,-.4 be
Bill from being got rid of by a side wind, aßreeis
thought that these objections were raised for the pa
of getting rid of the measure.
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Mr. T. S. DUNCOMBE said that theinfee-
had been appointed in a very unusual manner; eteee•
it was one Committee appointed to appoint arl. ieet
He thought that the same rule should be observed hit:tee
instance, as was observed upon railways, and t b°
Member at all interested in the sale of land sbelle the
oieaTi
wntxsf
obflpapueueri
eondponudupcagi
obetthslu,
Committee,i
eat expenditure .
would
ernoovuofeialtidiinhnt
yesen,
rot
consent
Therefore,
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ahtahtlat .ti
sctoofiatnpherho
carried
publicoispeitnHefdpdoot
appointed upon the Committee. The case invoireuaid
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evidence of the Commissioners in its hands, who
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appealed
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to report.
the
course.
not adopted the proper
been before the House, with respect to which/lee had
SpTewaokeorr, whether
Boor
obba:01,
mittees had been nominated in the same way. "--bsiff
consulted the Honourable Gentleman in the e
sehoie
and mentioned to him that one of the Gentlemen bet
he proposed to nominate was locally connected e tee
he over-ruled his doubts, and he placed his name 0
list.
The SPEAKER said the Committee had Wel e
pointed strictly in accordance with the forms %beef
Parobl°
House. When Bills came before Parliament of
and partly of a private nature, some Honoebooe,
Members representing local interests werte Con!:
whilst the remainder were appointed by the eolw
mittee of Selection, under the ordinary rules Ow
by the House. COPSI Lb,
Lord CLIVE said it was for the House -,..fore -„
whether they would appoint this Committee e'd bet
report and evidence of the Commission bar ti!Asl
printed and laid before the House, wheal: viDgo;
would appoint a tribunal before they Woe?
they would hare to decide. The question 0
simply whether Holyhead harbour wool a a led
packet station, but whether it might be
s—, that ;d
national harbour of refuge, or whether, spy' „0
spent all this money they had not been Ipwv.
a space full of rocks and utterly useless for fer
He thought the Hon. Gentleman the Member for _
of •
try had adopted the proper course. somber..Al
Sir DE LACY EVANS said he was a in, •
Committee on which there were members bilg'„,,ligeto
and personal interest in tne matter under int-rt .tr,
The Right Honourable Baronet (Sir Ron by tbl",,,
had stated that the report had been investige_Atma
eminent engineers, which he thought was guy- °
in favour of their proceedings. goaallisiderr
Mr. S I'ANLEY said that he had been per dicta'
ferred to in the course of this debate, and be, hit
rose to express his desire that he should no ;he
the Committee, but he rose also for ," of 'bl
pose of adverting to some words made of
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the Noble Lord the Member for Liverpool. ha orno
that his constituents wished to see the reP0",,0100,4
that they might see what further steps were Ilseltbet w,
be taken. He would remind the Noble I,ol'
distinct understanding with the HonOtalbi_e.by-mils
tleman near him was, that the Committal' roes „,
see the end of the matter. There
great misunderstanding upon the subject of al
The point for the Lords of the Treasury ania I;,ere
of the Admiralty to ascertain (for they °nod sveile
countable to Parliament) was, whether Hol an
fit and proper harbour for a packets tatiottl.nd ate
Commissioners appointed by them had rePrro-ey
the subject. That report had been detnur the
inhabitants of Liverpool and other places, andDtw-
pose of this Committee was to see whether pas•
plan was a proper one or not. •11 t the IS;
Lord SANDON, in explanation, said t s
meat distinctly was that no farther steps.
taken until this report were in the hands of the
of this House. the 006
Mr. WILLIAMS said that he could assure sei •
• bi
that they did not wish to get rid of this
on us
iso
wind. He was as anxious as any other Perils be Ire
a harbour of refuge on that part of the coatis
where Holyhead was situated. -saw).
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The motion was agreed to without a di,:yow.
Mr. HUME said—He wished to task@