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THE SUN, LONDON,_ TUESDAY EVE.NING, MARCH 9, 1847.

through the Secretary of State, as might seem to be most
prudent.
The Duke of Buckingham and Chandos and the Marquis
of Londonderry were subsequently added to the deputation
for presenting the memorial.

A Gentlemin from Oxford presented a number of names,
amounting to 130, to be added to the memorial.
The VICE CHANCELLOR of ENGLAND said that he was an
old Etonian, had sent eight sons to Eton, and now had a
grandson there, and it was with the most cordial assent,
therefore, to the proceedings of the meeting that he proposed
the thanks of those assembled to Lord John Manners and
the Earl of Falmouth. This was seconded by Mr. Rowland
Austin, and adopted with acclamation.
Lord J. MANNERS returned thanks for the compliment, as
did also the Earl of FALMOUTH ; after which,
It was agreed that the memorial t•hould lie on the table till
Monday next for signatures.
On the motion of Sir WA [.TEE RIDDELL, the Earl of Fal •
mouth, Lord J. Manners, Lord Clive, Mr. Bullock, Sir %V.
Riddell, Lord Castlereagh, Mr. Pickering, and Sir J. Duck-
worth, were appointed a committee, to take such further
proceedings as might be necessary, and the meeting aLpa-
rat ed.

SALE OF RAILWAY SHARES BY

AUCTION.—(THIS DAY.)
The sale of Railway Shares to-day, by Messrs. Lamond
and Co., went off very flatly, and prices were considered a
shade lower. During the sale, the Count de Montemo:in
entered, and seemed much interested by the method of dis-
posing of the property. By some mistake, we are not ena-
bled to furnish our readers with the principal sales.

STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE.
HOUSE OF COMMONS—(THIS DAY).
The Committee met this day at the usual hour for the dis-
patch of public business. The following decisions were an•
flounced during the course of the day :
SOUTH METROPOLITAN WATERWORKS.
Standing orders not dispensed with.
WESTMINSTER AND PART OF MIDDLESEX
SEWERS.

Allowed to proceed.
KILMARNOCK AND AYR DIRECT RAILWAY.
Adjourned.
LASGOW, KILMARNOCK, AND ARDROSSAN
RAILWAY (AMENDMENT, DEVIATION, AND
BRANCHES).
Standing orders dispensed with.

PETITIONS ON PRIVATE BILLS.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(THIS DAY.)
(Room 22, before Mr. Examiner SMITH.)
OPPOSED CASE.
MANCHESTER, LONDON, AND BIRMINGHAM.

This adjourned opposed case occupied the attention of the
Examiner the whole of the day. The allegations sustained
were only of a trivial character. The decision was adjourned
till to-morrow.
There was no other case on the list to-day.

COURSE OF EXCII)
Amsterdam ......C.F. 12 3%
Ditto, at sight • • .... 12 1
Rotterdam .... •• 2U. 12 4
Antwerp•• ............ 25 80
Hamburgh —ALB. 13 10%
Paris, 3 days' ;Ight 25 45

NGE.-(THIS DAY.)

Gibraltar.. ..... —
Leghorn 3O 20
Genoa .. • • • •
Milan .. • ....
Venice
Naples ...... • • ...... 40%
Palermo, per 0x........ 121

Dltte, 3 inontiis...... 25 75
Marseilles ••..•• • . .... 25 85
110urdeaux......... .. 25 85
Frankfort oit Di ai ne .... 121

Lisbon

Oporto •.. • • • . 54%
Rio Janeiro • • • • 21:1
I _

Petersburgh, 3 U 5......
Berlin • • .. • ..... :. • • • •
Vienna, effec. flu • • • • .. 10 3
Trieste, ditto.... • • .. .. 10 3
Math id • • .. • • ........ 36
Cadiz • • • .. : ........ 36%
Barcelona ............
gewi11e.......... ......

Bahia
Buenos Ayres .. ••• . • •
New York, 21 days' sight
Philadelphia .... • • ..

PRICL3 OF BULLION, PUL oz.
Foreign Gold in bars ...£3 17 9
New Dollars .... • . 0 4 109
Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0
Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0
Silver la bars ...... •• 0 5 ON

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From the London New Price Current of Mareh 5.)

SUGAR.—To-day the public sales held of East India and
Mauritius Sugar were extensive, and did not terminate until
quarter past three o'clock. Proprietors being anxious sellers,
caused a fall in the value of nearly all sorts; but nearly the
whole offered actually sold.
IImNED.—To-day, only a moderate demand existed for
Refined Goods, and prices are still on the decline. The value
of Standard Lumps is 633 to 63s 6d, and brown grocery,
62s 6d. The market for Bonded Crushed Sugar is firm at
36s for first quality ; and there are many orders in the market.
MAumrius.—This afternoon the market was abundantly
supplied. Three parcels, amounting to 17,767 bags and 220
casks, were submitted to public competition, the chief part
of which consisted of the better qualities of yellow ; the
merchants being ready sellers, and submitting to a reduction
on last week's rates of tid to is per cwt, occasioned the de-
mand to be excellent. The whole sold.

EAST INDIA.—This afternoon fuur parcels of Bengal Sugar,
amounting to 4,354 bags, were submitted to public sale; the
white and better sorts of yellow sold 6(1 cheaper. Madras is
plentiful, and the quantity offered at auction amounted to
9,4t.3 bap, but the demand was limited, and a part only sold,
at a fall on last week's rates of Is.

FORHIGN.—The rates previously established for Foreign
Sugar, suited for home consumption, are sustained, there
having been a good demand privately.
COCOA.—Foreign has been sought after, but the advanced
rates insisted upon prevented much business from being dote
privately in any kind. The parcels offered at public sale
were all taken in above the value. West India is much
wantod, and high rates are offered, but little is to be hail.
Grey Trinidad is worth 52s to 555, and Red 563 to 60s per cwt.
COFFEE.—This afternoon a fair desire was manifested to
operate in Native Ceylon, and several parcels were disposed
of privately. It was difficult to purchase good ordinary
under 43s Gd per cwt. Of Plantation 154 bags at auction
were taken in.

TEA.—There has been a greater desire generally manifested
by holders of Congou to realise, on account of the continued
arrivals, and they have sabmitted to a reduction on former
rates of Id to 2d per lb for good to fine, and id for low and
middling sorts. There has been little business done in
Pouchong, and prices are on the decline. Green of all de-
scriptions is in large supply, and the rates taken are again
rather under those that previously prevailed.
RtrE.—To- day East India Rice met with little attention;
and 1,366 bags of Bengal at auction were taken in at 24s fur
good mid white, being above the value. There were buyers
to be found at 23s 6d per cwt.
Rum, BRANDY, AND HOLLANDS.—Jamaica Rum is little
wanted, and the supply is on the increase. Demerara is
little wanted, and strong sorts can be obtained at 5s to 5s 3d.
For Leeward Island the market is in a dull state. Of East
India further parcels have been received, and the demand fur
all purposes being limited, prices are declining. Although
the deliveries of Brandy are going on largely, still exporters
have operated with caution, and the home itemand has been
limited for all descriptions. Geneva has been in limited re-
quest. Corn Spirits little wanted.
HOPS.— Prices remain firm for all sorts, and a fair amount
of business has been done. There is not a large quantity on
offer, and the consumption continues to be good.
COCIIINEAL.—The demand is good for all descriptions, and
the stock is less than it was last year, whilst the deliveries
are going on largely ; at public sales this afternoon 41 bags
of Honduras silvers went at 5s 10d to 6s 3d, and 7 bags black
7s to 7s Id, being Id to 2d per lb dearer.
INDroo.—The market
_has a firm appearance for all de-
scriptions of East India, purchases to a full extent have been
made, and the rates paid are fully equal to those of the last
quarterly sale.
OlLS.—There being willing sellers of Palm Oil upon pre-
vious reduced terms, occasioned large transactions by private
treaty. Rape Seed Oil is still attracting attention, and
having but a moderate supply, prices rule firm. For Cocoa
Nut Oil there are many buyers, and further advanced
prices are offered. Notwithstanding the late rise iu
the value of Olive Oil, still the home trade have
been again large operators, and a fair quantity has been
taken for exportation, and holders evince much firmness.
A further rise took place in the value of Linseed Oil, as the
demand is greater than the supply. Cod is held for 27/ to
271 103 per tun, but the purchases made have been limited.
For Seal, late rates are insisted upon ; but the purchases
made have been trifling. There being sellers of Southern of
low to middling quality at 26/ to 271 10s, and at 281 to 291
for good to tine, occasioned the demand to be good. Sperm
is little wanted, and tine British is attainable at 881 per ten.
TALLOW.—Prices continue on the advance for Russian on
the spot. For delivery in the last three months of the year
a goad deal has been done at the improved rates of 463 to
46s 6d. Home-made is plentiful, still an improvementjn the
value occurred, and the demand has been good at 50s to 51s
nett cash. In other descriptions of Tallow many purchases
have been made, and the rates obtained are rattler above
those that existed previously.

rHE LONDON GAZETTE.

(THIS EVENING.)

LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S-OFFICE, MARcH 9, 1847.
Notice is hereby given, that her Majesty's Drawing-room,
intended to be held at St. James's Palace on Thursday, the
25th instant, is postponed till the following Saturday, the
27th instant, at two o'clock.
WHITEHALL, MARCH 6, 1847.
Her Majesty has been pleased to appoint John Thomas
Gordon, Esq., Advocate, to be Sheriff Depute of the shire or
sheriffdom of Aberdeen, in the room of Andrew Murray, Esq.,
deceased.

OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, MAacx 8.
Corps of Royal Engineers—Brevet Major Francis Ringler
Thomson to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice Gipps, deceased ;
Second Captain William Yolland to be Captain, vice Thom-
son ; First Lieutenant James William Gosset to be Second
Captain, vice Yolland ; Second Lieutenant Sidney Baynton
Farrell to be First Lieutenant, vice Gosset, March I.
Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Kin-

cardine.

'The Hon. John Arbuthnott to be Vice-Lieutenant, Feb.l6.
Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant and Sheriff-Principal of

the County of Ayr.
Ayrshire Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry—Andrew Cath-
cart, Gent., to be Cornet, vice Leveson Granville Campbell,
resigned, March 2.
William Bruce, of
The Lord ClaNaVniCleillToEr has AL T,,
appointedit: A acu 5.
Leeds, in the county of York, Gent., to be a Master Extra-
ordinary in the High Court of Chancery.
WHITEHALL, MARCH 5.
The Right. Hon. Sir Thomas Wilde, Knight, Lord Chief Jus-
tice of her Majesty's Court of Common Please, has appointed
Harry Booth, of Holmfirth, in the county of York, Gent., to be
one of the Perpetual Commission ers for taking the acknowledg-
ments of deeds to be executed by married women, under the
Act passed for the abolition of tines and recoveries, and for
the substitution of more simple modes of assurance, in and
for the West Riding of the county of York.
BANKRUPTS.

William Henry Hodding: surgeon, Gloucester-place, Port-
man-square, to surrender March 16, and April 20, at eleven,
at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee ;
Sutton, Ewen 4, Ommanney, and Prudence, Basinghall-street.
Samuel Cubitt, clothier, Colchester, March 15, at half past
twelve, and April 19, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Turquand, official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers, London ;
Linklaters, Leadenhall-street.
James Law, coal merchant, Faversham, Kent, March 17,
at half-past eleven, and April 22, at one, at the Court of
Bankruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Basinghall street;
Messrs. Gilbert, Hooke, and Co., Philpot-lane.
John Furbv and Robert Stockton, tailors, Sackville-street,
Pairceceatd.ililly.,ildiCinlagr,3? 17 and April 22, at half-past twelve, at
the Court of Bankruptcy. Ball, official assignee, Coleman-
the Court of Bankruptcy.Davi"' Warwick-street, Golden-square.
William Bull, stock manufacturer, Little Love-lane, Wood-
street, March 18, at half-past eleven, and April 22, at two, at
Coleman-
street Buildings; AshurtanEdeSlic:noffisocliicailt-oarsss,igCnh Joseph Prust, tanner, Stratton,t Cornwall, Meeeaa'rPcCshiodle2e.3n,ana.t
er
eleven, and April 15, atgnotene,,Ealethe.Exeter District Court.
Lime-street, London.
tHere,nior, Kaend'doeffilleaianldaCssoi., solicitors,
James Morgan, draper, Wedmore 23,nd April 20,
aton, official
el,ineS•totougrtdcehn,solicitor, Exe-
,3 Mar
at one, at the Bristol District
ssignee, Bristol; Bailey, Wedmoresomers.

Anthony Halliley and Richard Haitiley, calico printers,
Wigton, March 18, at eleven, and April 20, at half-past one,
at the Newcastle-upon-'Pyne District Court. Wakley, offi-
cial assignee, Newcastle.upon-Tyne; Studholme, Wigton;
Addison and Harrison, Staple Inn, London ; Ingledew,
Newcnstle-upon Tyne.
Robert Elliott Huntley, wine merchant, Newcastle-upon-
Tyne, March 23, at half-past one, and April 20, at one, at
the Newcastle. upon-Tyne District Court. Baker, official
assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; T. and W. Chater, New-
castle-upon-Tyne; Bell, Broderick, and Bell, Bow Church-
yard, London.
Peter Burns, jun., bookseller, Liverpool, March 19, and
April 20, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Bird,
official assignee, Liverpool ; Sharpe and Co. Bedford-row,
London ; Cleminson, Ambleside ; Hetherington, Woods, and
Woodburn, Liverpool.
Thomas Stockdale and John Stockdale, soap boilers, Liver-
pool, March 23, and April 16, at eleven, at the Liverpool
District Court, Morgan, official assignee, Liverpool ; Sharp
and Co., Bedford-row, London ; Harvey and Falcon, Liver-
pool.

IMPERI A L PA ILIA MENT.
(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

The Earl of SIIAFTESBURY took his seat upon the
Woolsack at Five o'clock.
CRIMINAL LAW—JUVENILE OFFENDERS.

On the motion of Lord BROUGHAM, the Com-
mittee on juvenile offenders was nominated.
IRISH LANDLORDS.

The Earl of LUCAN was desirous, as he was not in
the House last night, when the Noble Lord (Brougham)
contradicted certain statements made by him (Earl
Luean) on a former occasion, to make a few observations,
and he hoped their Lordships would not consider him out
of order in calling their attention to the circumstance, and
in requesting the Noble Lord to give up the name of
the writer of the letter which he had read last night.
The charges in that letter were quite unfounded and in-
correct, and he thought as the Noble Lord had read the
letter in extenso, he was bound either to give up the
name of the writer, or to take upon himself the responsi-
bility of the statements. He (Earl Lucan) took
that opportunity of denying the statement made by the
Noble Lord, as also the charges made by some
Catholic clergyman at a meeting held in Ballinrobe as
reported in the Timee on the 2d inst., when the condi-
tion of this property was misrepresented.
Lord BROUGHAM denied hav in g alluded pointedly to
the Noble Earl. I.le_did not name any of the landlords in one
of the statements he read, and in the one in which names
were specified he gave the name of his authority. He
did not consider himself bound to give up the names,
but whether he did or not the result would be just the
same, as regarded the denial of them, as the case of Cap-
tain Wynne showed.
Lord LUCAN—The Noble Lord refused to give the
name of the writer. Would he object to state to the
House whether he was acquainted with the writer, and
knew that he was respectable and worthy of credit ?
Lord BROUGHAM—I beg leave to tell to the Noble
Lord that I have made the statement fitting for me to
make, and proper for the House to receive, and that
neither he nor the House have any right whatever
to make any Peer to come to account in that way,
and I will not give any answer.—(Hear, hear.)
since I have been in Parliament—and that is not a short
time—l have heard statements made again and again, in
this House, and by Members of the other House of
Parliament, not giving the names of their authorities,
and while refusing to give their names, they themselves
have said that they believed the statement, and that was
sufficient. Lvery body knows that from the time of
Henry 111., when Parliament first assumed a form,
downwards, common fame is sufficient to ground a
statement upon.

Lord DYSART presented a petition from the Relief
Committee of the county of Cavan, praying that the
House would consider the propriety of introducing a
proper and extensive railway systi m in Ireland.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a pe-
tition from Newtownard, in the north of Ireland, praying
for a more equalised sysiem of rating, and complaining
that they were suffering severly under the present system.
He considered that the extension of the English Poor-
law to Ireland would be a most valuable boon to that
country. In conclusion, he would most earnestly desire
that the Noble and Learned Lord would desist from the
charges which he was in the habit of preferring against
the Irish landlords. They were most painful to him to
h, ar, and they were productive of much evil, as they had
the effect of discontenting the tenant with his landlord.
His own tenantry had never nppealed to him for any
'eduction of rent, and he did hope that the Noble and
Learned Lord would net continue to indulge in this
strain of censure against the Irish landlords which he
was in the habit of doing.
Lord BROUGHAM denied that his charges were
general in their applicztion, and if the Noble Marquis
insisted ton being accused, he (Lord Brougham) could
not help it. He would now, however, put the matter
in a fair way of being ascertained. He would move for
returns—agreeable to the suggestion of his informer,
who was a most respectable man—of the names of all
the plaintiffs and defendants iu all processes for rent
due on the Ist of November, 1846, which were brought
on for tlial on the 11th of January last, at Ballina, in
the barony of r Awley. county Maio.
Lord CLARE said that such a thirg as processing
in January for the November rent was a thing unpre-
, cedented in Ireland.

Lord BROUGIIAM hopzd that he should not be
considered as harsh towards the Irish, but rather as
entertaining a kindly feeling towards them, Mhen he
said that he desired to see the hicome-tax, the assessed-
tax, and the land-tax in operation in Ireland.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY begged leave to
remark that it was not right to attempt by bad jokes to
turn the declaration he had made in that House to a bad
use. Ihe Noble and Learned Lord used a sort of sarcasm
to any one who called him to account for his general
declaration. He appealed to their Lordships whether
the Noble Lord had not attacked the landlords of Ire-
land in his various speeches. The Noble Lord, with
his special pleading, voluble language, aed bad jokes,
did himself mischief, for at length nobody would mind
what he said.—(Loud laughter.) The Noble Lord
should not attempt to make these attacks. If the income-
tax were placed upon Ireland, he was sure that the Irish
would loyally and cheerfully submit to it.
Lord BROUGHAM said that the Noble Marquis had
said that no one would attend to what he said. He
must take his chance of that. Senators as well es others
were liab:e to that evil. He did not at all expect to meet
the same respect in speaking in that House as the Noble
Marquis. He was satisfied, and, if he was satisfied, the
Noble Marquis had no right to complain. The Noble
Marquis had said, that he special-pleaded, was sarcastic,
and made bad jukes. What he had said was a fact and
no joke at all.

The Earl of MOUNTCASIIEL said that he highly
approved of the returns which had bceu moved for.

Lord MOUNTEAGLE presented a petition from a
number of persons praying that certain phrases insult-
ing to the Roman Catholics should be abolished from
the oaths taken by the Roman Catholics and Pro-
testants.

Lord COLCHESTER said, that he believed that few
of these oaths were taken, but as far as he was concerned
he was most willing to agree tothe prayer of the petition.
The subject then

POOR-LAW -REMOVA L ACT.
Lord FEVERSHANI presented a petition from the
poor-law guardians of Helmsley, in the North Riding of
Yorkuhire, against the Poor Removal Act of last session.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the chair to-day at Four o'Clock.
BIRMINGHAM FIRE INSURANCE.
On the motion of Mr. SPOONER, the Birmingham
District Fire Insurance Bill was read a third time.

REGENT'S CANAL COMPANY.
Sir WILLIAM CLAY coved the second reading of
the Regent's Canal Company (Paddington and Lime.
house Railway and Branch).
Mr. WARBURTON said that, as he understood that
the-Bill was to be divided into two, he would not oppose
it in its present stage.
Lord MORPETiI was informed that it was not the
intention of the promoters of the Bill to interfere with
the plantations and pleasure-grounds of the Regent's
Park, ho should not, therefore, at present oppose the
progress of the Bill ; but if any attempt was made
to interfere with those grounds which were specially
protected, the Bill would be most strongly opposed, and
he had no doubt but that such opposition would be suc-
cessful.

LAW OF SETTLEMENT.
An HON. MEMBER presented several petitions agains
the Law of Settlement.
NAVIGATION LAWS.
Sir J. Y. BULLER presented a petition from Devon.
shire against any alteration is the Navigation Laws.

Walter Baine do prepare and bring it in. That leave
be given to bring in a Bill to enable the Glasgow, Pais-
ley. and Greenock Railway Company to make certain
branch railways at Port Glasgow ; and that Mr. Hope
Johnstone and Mr. Walter Baine do prepare and bring
it in.—The motion was agreed to.
Mr.IHUME moved that Sir George Grey, Mr.Strutt,
and Mr. Home Drummond be discharged trim further
attendance on the Select Committee on Private Bills:
that Mr. Aglionby, Mr. Wilson Patten, and Mr. Evart
be added to the Committee.—The motion was agreed to.

rnents from the year 1812 to the year 1843. In the first
six years of this period, when capital punishments were
more frequent than in the remaining years of the period,
the number of capital punishments was 122, and the con-
victions for murder 144; while in the latter six years when
capital punishments bad decreased from 122 to 50. The
crime of murder bad also diminished from 144 to 121. But
there was another return which showed the effect of those
years in which all parties convicted of murder were exe-
cuted as compared with those in which fewest executions
took place. That return was made on the 24th August,
1843, and showed that in those years where all parties
convicted of murder had been executed, that the crime
' of murder had increased from 239 to 270, and in those
years in which the punishment of death bad decreased the
crime of murder bad also diminished from 268 to 222.
Now he would not overburden the House with further sta-
tistics. But he would wish to refer to other countries, to
France, Prussia. Germany, and Belgium; and he wished
particularly to refer to Belgium, as in that country
capital punishment suss altogether done away with.
The punishment of death had been abolished on that
country in 1834, but in 1835 some wise philosopher
concurrred that it was again necessary to inflict the
capital punishment for the sake of setting an example ;
capital punishments were, therefore, revived, and what
was the result ? Why, that the crimes which in the
years 1830 to 1834 had been only committed by 60 persons
had risen in the years succeeding the revival of the
punishment of death to 80 or somewhat like 25 per cent.
lie therefore thought that this was a strong argument
to show that that punishment was not necessary. He
thought that the present improved system ef prison
discipline, the larger army of police kept up not only in
the towns but in the rural districts, and the extended
education which was grants 1 to 111 classes, sere the
best securities fir the due observance of the law.
It was incumbent on them to prove that the pnnishment
of death was necessary, rather than for him to prove
that it was unnecessary. He was. however, prepared to
prove that the punishment of death was not only ueces
sary, but that it was positively injurious to the criminal
the jury who tried the case, and the public who wit-
nessed the execution. The first object of all punish-
ment should be to evince its certainty. At present
there was no certainty in the infliction of. the punish-
ment of death ; the criminal felt that it was
uncertain, and this uncertainty encouraged in their
minds a species of moral gambling, and induced him
to stake his existence against the severity of the law.
Another cause of the uncertainty attending the present
law was, the badly defined legal acceptation of the crime
of murder; it depended upon the proof of the crime
having been committed with malice prepense. whether
the criminal was or was not convicted. And this malice
prepense was judged of according to various standards
by the different judges who tried the case, the
consequence of all this was, to encourage uncertainty,
and that uncertainly would not fail to encourage crime.
The magnitude of the punishment created a false
heroism, but its great objection was, that it left the
criminal unreformed, and sent him to his last account

" Unabsolved, unannealed, with all
His imperfections on his head."
The extreme of this punishment enfeebles the decision
of their tribunals, for the magnitude of the punishment
threw the crime into the shade. The decisions of the
jury ought to be clear and distinct, and not overshadowed
by the magnitude of the penalty imposed by the law.
But what was the effect upon the public—the public to
whom they ought first of all to look—the public for
whose sake it was said that capital punishments were
to be continued as an example ? Why, if ca-
pital punishment was to be continued, why should they
not make it a solemn, a serious ceremony ; why not in-
vest it with all the dignity of decorum ? But instead
of that it was carried out hurriedly, at an early
hour of the morning, and had no salutary effect.
But what was the glorious example it was said
to inculcate ? Would they wish any of their
relatives, any of their children, to witness an excecution
ith the view of inculcating a deep moral lesson ?
What father would take his children to witness such an
exhibition ? None. Yet they held that such exhibi-
tions were far the public good ; but were the people
whom they ought to do all in their power to elevate, in-
stead of debasing and demoralizing, to be allowed locger
to witness such sanguinary spectacles, and to have their
natures thereby perverted and hardened ? What, he
would ask, was the effect of an exhibition upon the crowd
who witnessed it ? It was expected, as he had said, to
du good ; but they left them with adhor-
rence and disgust. And more, it bad been
proved— repeatedly proved—that the spectators were
brutalised, that many had subsequently become
criminals, and that a great majority of the number who
had been executed bad, at some period of their lives,
witnessed an execution.—(Hear, hear.) If it conferred
good upon the public —if it inculcated a great
moral lesson its infliction ought to be mare
dignified, instead of hurrying it over as if they were
ashamed of what they were doing. Its effect was bad
in the extreme, for after the criminal was rather con-
sidered a hero than pitied. Attempts had been made
to get the punishment inflicted in private, in order
that the public mind might not be brutalised; but if it
were made private what would become of the exam pie they
wi,hed to inculcate?—there was an end of it at once.
But further, if they established private executions, where
then was their great moral example ? Such punish-
ments could not be inflicted in a free country without re-
ceiving the full force and pressure of public opinion ; and
in a country like England, no punishment that did
not fu'ly combine the feeling of public approbation,
could he long maintained it must have the full expres-
'don of this opinion in its favour. It mit:ht be said that
public opinion went in favour of the law, but theipeti-
lio 13 which he had presented that night would show
that this was not so. And not only these petitions, but
dai y experience and the annually growing feeling of the
country was against the punishment of death. Butit might
be asked, what would he substitute for it ? Under the
refinement of the system of punishment which had taken
place thep might fairly substiCte imprisonment for
life. 'lbis had been tried in other countries, and he saw
no reason why it should not be tried in this. It was said
this system of punishment was not severe enough; in his
opinion it was far more severe on the individual than
the punishment of death, while it held out some
prospect of the reformation of the criminal.
In shorter periods of imprisonment the prisoner might
come out, if not altogether improved, at least compare-
' Lively pure. This might be done by imprisonment, and
if legislation could not accomplish every thing. it might
do much towards alleviating the evils by which the pre
sent system was beset. But it was not for the object of
punishment that the imprisonment should be imposed, so
much as the reformation of the prisoner, and they must
strike deeper than that for the extirpation of crime.
They must educate the people, and not leave them to
conceive that punishment was to become a sort of re-
venge. There were two sorts of education—one
which was internal, and which arose from the
operations of the mind itself ; and the other which
was external, derivable from the influence of external
objects. Those were the means by which they were
effect the improvement of the prisoner, for if they
looked to the periods when the punishments were most
severe, they would find that crime was at that
time most frequent. They need not look to the time
•of Henry tl.e Eighth, when 7,000 persons were
executed, but to contemporaneous history they would
find from the excellent book of the King of Sweden, that
in Spain, where crime was most frequent there was one
execution to every 150,000 persons, but in Sweden there
was one only to every 170,000 of the population.
The Hon. Member then quoted certain statistics to show
that in those counties where the punishment of death was
less frequent, the crime of murder was proportionably di-
minished. Ile was aware this subject required theexercise
of great patience on the part of the House, as the argu-
ments were neither very new nor very interesting ; but
there was one point to which hemust refer.

After some further observations the Hon. Member con.
eluded, and
Dr. BO WRING rose to second the motion, and was
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

POPULATION, POOR'S-RATE, &c.
A return was issued
,yesterday, by order of the House of
Commons, under the above head, showing the following
statistical facts for the United Kingdom.
Population in 1841 :
England and Wales
Scotland
Ireland 8,175,124
Annual value of property rated to the poor's-rates :
England and Wales £62,540,030
Scotland
Ireland
Expenditure for the relief and maintenance of the poor,
year 1844-45:
England and Wales
Scotland
Ireland 298,813
Rate in the pound of that expenditure on the annual value
of property rated to the rooor's•rate:
England and Wales .. la.
Scotland
Ireland
Total nun:ber of paupers relieved, including casual poor:—
England and Wales
Scotland 96,327
Ireland
Proportion per cent, to the population :
England and \Vales
Scotland
Ireland
Rate per head of expenditure on the total Lumber cf
paupers relieved :

England and Wales £3 Bs. Cid.
Scotland 3 0 9}
Ireland

THE LATE FATAL ACCIDENT ON BOARD THE
STARLIGHT STEAM-ROAT.—Yesterday Mr. Bedford held an
inquest at the Salisbury Arms, Durham-street, Strand, on
the body of Mr. James Hunt, aged 52, a master framework
knitter of Nottingham, who lost his life by falling into the
engine-house of the Starlight iron steam-bout, under circum-
stances already detailed in this journal. Joseph Crowne, the
engineman, said that the flaps of the skylight were generally
lifted the first thing in the morning and, unless the day was
wet, they were kept up till night. There was no bar or any
other protection over the opening when the window was up.
There were bars placed in one or two a the company's boats,
and he had no doubt that the same precautions would be
adopted with respect to every other vessel belonging to the
company. The jury, after consulting, returned a verdict,
" That the deceased died from injuries received in falling
into the engine-room of the Starlight iron steam-boat, which
they (the jury) deemed to have been insufficiently protected.
And the jury recommend that the skylights of all steam-
' boats shall be in future well protected so as to prevent a re-
currence of a similar calamity."
PUSRYISM AT FALMOUTH.--The church at this
place is now hung with black cloth, the candlesticks on the
"altar," which are usually covered with white lace, are now
covered with black crape, and the worthy clergyman, who
at other periods of the year preaches in white kid gloves,
now preaches in black—these are the outward and visible
signs of humiliation in Lent.—Devonport Telegraph.
NEW CHURCH, ST. GEORGE S, HANGER-SQUARE.
—A new church is about to be erected on the south, or Picea-
dilly, side of the palish of St. George, Hanover-square.

TUE-KING OF BAVARIA AND
LOLA MONIES.
The Debuts publishes the following letter, addressed
to the King of Bavaria by four of his Ministers, on ten-
dering their resignations:—
" Sire,—There are circumstances in which men,
invested with the inappreciable confi lence of their
sovereign, and charged by him with the direction
of affairs, have only the sad ahernetive of re-
nouncing the accomplishment of the most sacred
duties, their fidelity, their attachment, and their
gratitude, or of not fearing, in order to satisfy their
conscience, to expose themselves to the unhappy danger
of incurring the disapprobation of their beloved
monarch. Such is the sad necessity in Which the
undersigned find themselves placed by the royal de-
cision, which has for its object to grant to the Signora
Lola Montes Bavarian letters of naturalisation. We are
all incapable of betraying the eat he which we took to
your Majesty, and our resolution has never been to a
moment doubtful. This question of naturalisation was
frankly characterised by the Counsellor of State de
Maurer, in the sitting of the council of the Bth inst.,
as the greatest calamity with which Bavaria could be
afflicted. This was also the conviction of the whole of
the council it is at the same time the c xpression of
the opinion of all the faithful subjects of your Majesty ;
and it was not necessary for the Council of State to
assemble to cause it to be entertzined by the under-
signed. Since the month of December last the eyes of
the whole country have been fixed upon Munich. In
..11 the pros inces of Bavaria nothing is thought of but
what is passing here, and which forms almost exclusively
the subje et ~f all conversations, whether private or public;
and the opinions manifested on this subject are
exceedingly grave. The respect for the Sovereign be-
comes weaker and weaker in all minds, because we hear
from all parts only expressions of the most hitter blame
and the most energetic disapprobation. Moreover, the
national feeling is offended, is, cause Reverie believes
herself to be governed by a foreign female, „hose re-
putation is branded in public opinion, and, in presence
of such facts, nothing can root out the id. a. Men like
the Bishop of Augsburg, whose fidelity and attachment
to your Majesty cannot be disputed, daily shed bitter
tears for what is passing before their eyes; the Minis-
ters of the Interior and of Finance have been witnesses
of his profound affliction. The Prince Bishop of Bres-
!an, on learning that a rumour had been circulated tore
that he had set forth an opinion temling to excuse this
state of things, has hastened to write to persons in
Munich, requesting them to contradict this in the most,
formal manner, and to declare that he .disap-
proved in tote of what was going on. His letter is
no longer a secret, and in a short time it will be known
to the whole country. Foreign journals are every
day relating the most scandalous anecdotes, and
making the most degrading attacks on your Majesty.
The number of the Cite Chronicle, which we subjoin,
is a proof of what we assert. It is in vain that
the police endeavours to prevent the introduction
of these journals, as they are circulated everywhere,
and read with the utmost avidity. The impression which
they leave on men's minds is by no means doubtful ; it
is renewed day after day, and in a short time nothing
will be able to efface it. This opinion is the same
from Berchtesgaden and Passau to Aschaffenhurg and
Deux-Ponta—it is the same throughout Europe, in the
cabin of the poor and the palace of the rich. It
is not alone the glory and the well-being of your
Majesty's Government that are compromised, but even
the existence of Royalty itself. It is this which ex-
plains the joys of those who aim at overturning the
throne, and all whose efforts tend to annihilate this
same royalty. But it is also the cause of the profound
grief and despair of all who are faithfully attached to
your Majesty, and who cannot shut their eyes to the
dangers to which the country has not perhaps at any
other period been exposed. In this state of things it is
beyond the reach of human power to prevent the effect
of what is now passing acting in the end on the army ;
and if such an unfortunate event should take place, it
that bulwark should give way, what would then
be our resource ? The statement which the under-
signed, whose hearts are torn with anguish, venture to
place before your Majesty, is not the effect of an ima-
gination struck with terror, but the result of the obser-
vations which each of them, in the circle of his attribu-
tions, has been in a condition to make for several months.
It may be easily foreseen what will be, in the ensuing
Parliamentary session, the result of these circum
stances. Their effect cannot be calculated it the delibe-
rations of the Chambers should open under such im-
pressions.
Each of the undersigned is ready at any
moment to sacrifice for your Majesty his lite and for-
tune. They believe they have given you sufficient
proofs of their fidelity and attachment, and it is for them
a doubly sacred duty to point out to your Majesty the
dangers which are daily increasing, in order that you
may deign to listen to their humble prayer, and
give up the supposition that what is taking place
is the effect of passions or of opposition to your
august will, when this opposition is really directed only
against a situation which, in the eyes of every faithful
Bavariar, threatens to destroy the fair fame, power,
and future happiness of a beloved King. "they have
respect fully and minutely weighed all the circum
stances connected with a course of proceeding to
which their profound and sincere attachment to your
Majesty have alone decided them. Their firm convic-
tion is, that if your Majesty should not d. ign to attend
to their supplications, they are bound to resign the
situaiions to which the ki,xiness and confidence of their
sovereign had called them, and that no:hing c-Ise rt mains
for them but to rospectlully pray your Majesty to re-
sume the portfolios which you had intrusted to them.
(Signed) D'ABEL, Minister of the Interior.
G U PEN II ERG, Minister of War.
511RE\hI;, Minister of Finance.
SCENSIIEIM, Minister ofJustice."
M. de Bray, Minister of Foreign Affairs, has also given
in his resignation, as has been alive ly stated.

BURNING OF A THEATRE.
GREAT LO';s OF LIFE.

IS'e read in a letter from Carlsruhe of the 28th ult.:—

" The grand ducal theatre has just been t:estroyed by fire;
it is at this moment a heap of ashen. So3n after five o'clock,
and when a considerable number of persons had already er.-
tered the theatre, the third tier of boxes being nearly filled,
the fire broke out suddenly in a box on the second tier. It

is said that one of the gas pipes burst, and this was probably
the case, for in a few minutes the whole of the interior of the
theatre was in flames. Assistance was soon procured from
all sides; but as it was impossible to save the theatre, all the
efforts were directed towards the preservation of the adjoin-
ing houses. At ten o'clock all danger was over as regarded
them. But what is most terrible in this affair is the loss of
life. Several persons in the boxes lost their lives, for, as
soon as the fire had declared itself, escape was difficult.
Some, who were in the third tier, jumped into the second,
and then into the pit ; others threw themselves out of the
windows into the yard."
The Carlsruhe Gazette of the 3d gives the following parti-
culars :

" It was not in one of the boxes of the second gallery that.
the fire first broke out, but in one of the court• boxes, imme-
diately after the gas was lighted. Tile inquest is ❑ot yet
terminated ; but it is already known that there was no fisure
in the gas pipe, and that the flames driven by a current of
air, caught the hangings. The rapidity with which the fire
spread is easily accounted for by the interior arrangement
and decorations of this building in common with all 01,1
theatres. As soon as the audience part of the house was be-
ginning to he filled with the volumes of smoke, the confu-
sion and alarm became general and frightful. Many persons
on the third tier of galleries were stifled. The number of
persons dead and missing amounts, according to the police
returns, to 70. The Grand Duke, although he had for seve-
ral days been confined by indisposition, hurried to the scene
of disaster, and by his presence encouraged the firemen.
His Royal Highness has to-day expressed, through the au-
thorities, his warm thanks to the inhabitants of Carlaruhe
and its environs, and the military and gendarmery, for the
seal with which they all lent their assistance on this lament-
able occasion."

A letter from Carlsruhe, in the Mannheim Journal, says—
" Among the victims the following arc named—viz., a
brother of M. Homburg, the man of letters; a sou of M.
Wabel, the prompter; a whole family who had just arrived
from Ludwigsburg, and ans English family who had got lost
in the corridors, besides many women and children. Most of
the bodies are completely reduced to ashes; and of many
others nothing was left unconsumed but the limbs, which
have been carried to the cemetery. Some threw themselves
out of the windows of the fourth story ; one, i❑ attempting
to do so, was withheld by a young female, to whom he was
affianced, and thus remained suspended till the building gave
way, when they both sunk into the flames."

BOILER EXPLOSION AT CLIFTON. Yesterday
afternoon an inquest was held by Mr. Rutter, county
coroner, at the Seven Stars Tavern, Clifton, relative to the
death of James Winterbottom. The deceased, who was 72
years of age, was foreman of the engine-house at the
Spindle Point Coal-pit, at Kearney, belonging to the
trustees of Mr. Fletcher. On Tuesday, whilst the work-
men were at dinner, and the engine was standing, the
deceased went into the fire-hole, and was pulling a
clinker from between the bars, when a slight ‘• fizzing
noise" was heard, and immediately afterwards the boiler
exploded. The deceased was projected from the fire-
hole to a distance of five yards, into a lodge of water
close to the reservoir. file was severely scalded
on the face, body, and hands. Two surgeons were
called in to attend him ; but he died on Wed-
nesday night. The engineer, %William Lomax, was the only
other person in the engine house at the time; he escaped
unhurt. The engine, atter having been thoroughly ex •
amined, was fitted up about two years ago, and had been in
regular work ever since. About a fortnight ago it was ex-
amined again, and a slight repair of the steam pipe, which
seemed all that was necessary, made. The explosion, it
seems, was attributable to the fact of one plate of the boiler
having, from some unknown cause, become exceedingly thin.
The engine is a high•pressure one, and at the time of the
explosion, the safety valve indicated a pressure of only 81hs
to the inch, although it was calculated to carry 40 lbs.
Lawrence Fogg stated that he had been employed at the pit.
for 27 years, and that this was the first accident of the kind
which had occurred there. Verdict—"Accidental death."--
Manchester Examiner.

THE LATE MURDER AT DAGENHAM. -- The
Government have issued instructions for the prosecution of
Sergeant Parsons and the other police-constables belonging
to the K division, for alleged perjury committed by them
in their evidence before the coroner when he held the in-
quest on the body of their comrade Clarke, who, it will be
remembered, was found in a corn-field murdered on the
28th of last June. Mr. Maule, of the Treasury, has re-
ceived directions from the Government to prosecute the
me❑ to the utmost. During the past week several parties
connected with the Government, and Sergeant Kendall, of
the detective police force, have been actively engaged in
getting up the evidence on behalf of the Crown. Mr.
Lewis, the coroner for Essex, who held the inquest on Clarke's
body, and the various witnesses who were examined by
that functionary have been subpoenaed by the Government
to be in attendance at the assize court, Chehnsford, to-mor-
row (Monday), to prefer a bill against the parties.— lVeehly
Paper.

it is understood that the Admiralty have ap-
pointed Mr. Smith, whose screw-propeller is adopted in her
Majesty's vessels, to be superintendent of the works con-
nected with it, and all matters relating to the fitting of the
screw are to be under his directions. The calary to he GOCi.
a year.—Hampshire Telegraph.
The inauguration of his Royal highness Prir:ce
Albert will probably take place, in London, on Thursday
week.--Cambridge Independent.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF LORDS, March S.
The LORD CHANCEilkOlitook his seat on the Woolsack
sllurtly after Five o'clock.

THE CRIMINAL LAW.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the Corpora'
tion of Kingston-on-Hull, confirm* the complaints rreldel
the petition lately presented from the magistrates of Liirerpe
on the subject of the amendment of the criminal law. The sbi,
tt
cases which the petitioners cited were exactly similar taa, t f
fourteen cases enumerated in the Liverpool petition, eaca•
whom had been committed nine times before sentence of tra;
p wtation was passed upon them. He would new, in aeccrf-
ance with the notice he had given, move for a Select Cea 1
mittee to examine into the subject of the execution of ericult
law, and particularly with respect to its operation on juvea
offenders. He was sure the result would be favourable to te'
views he already expressed on the subject, and the recont:f
mendation of the Committee would lie that transportation,
not altogether suspended, should be considerably muddied- ~
w
Lord STANLEY said that upon this subject—that of cry
minal punishment—he hoped to hear an explanation as to
was the intention of the Government respecting transport& 670.
He understood that it was tt eir desire to suspend the pien
pot.
ment of transportation for two years without applying to dto
liament for its sanction for such a proceeding. With regal'
00
transportation as a punishment, he entertained an opinion Into
favourable than his Noble Friend. But to suspend it for, d,
years seemed to him to be an experiment of such a inagn't_v
pt;
as should not be attempted without applying to Parliament,
and, in his opinion, it would be a serious abuse of the prerntgoy
five of the Crown. He hoped the Government would in, to
duce a Bill, and thus afford an opportunity to Loth l'inwe'
discuss the measure.
Earl GREY said that since the year 1843 no convict ot,
tenced to transportation for seven years had the sentence Pot
ried into effect, the criminal was confined to the hulks, or 1; ici
to Bermuda. Although he considered transportation a, ews•
punishment, yet he was aware that it had its attendant 1.60,
tage. 'the Noble Lord had mistaken the intention of the hi
vetnment. Transportation would not be abolished,. it Ono
continue to he the same precisely as it was at present, .ntbe
but one difference, namely the place, where one part ot, •„,
sentence should be endured. The penal labour would be
•
Meted in this country under the immediate obser:-
tion of the Government, where they would ceniiatol
and check the abuses which took place,, but th e con be,
would be discharged in Australia, under the same controll° to
was placed by the present system. Therefore he ye eluted
say, that the change was not so substantial as to males it 'lf co,
; 0
say for them to apply to Parliament. The more espenia' Yt to
it was perfectly competent for her Majesty's Governmen
make it without any Act of Parliament upon the subject,
wn
Lord BROUGHAM protested against the law as laid '3°o6
by his Noble Friend. He denied the power of the Crown• of
would suppose an Act of Parliament requiring a punishteentde,
one hnrelred and twenty-one years' transportation, now ,
sired to know was it competent to imprison him for one "n;
dred and twenty years, and transport him for the rentain „-i
i;
portion of the time. The principle was the same AS 10
plied to any period of time He admitted that
Act was passed, some fifteen years, which ealeka
power to the executive in a certain class of cases. The
he referred to was the sth George IV. chapter 83. No 513„,,,.
could doubt the power of the Crown to pardon capital offeti'"t
But if it be legal for the Crown to overset every punish Mete,'
the inhabitants of Bridport, who intrusted him with the litb,
sentatir.n of a petition praying for the abolition of the ponisn,
ment of death, had mistaken their way, they should have or
plied at once to the executive.
COP
Lord CAMPBELL said that, as at present advised, he,bo
sidered that all that his Noble Friend proposed to do migi'lito
effected without any Act of Parliament. The genera lion
which had been adopted wv, in every case of transports ea
for a period of seven years, the Government did not narrlct
into effect. Now no one ever objected to such a practice' so9-f
he considered that the rule applied to fourteen, or fifteen, id
twenty years. It was most desirable that the House silhe
have an opportunity, however, for a full discussion upon
matter.
Lord ASHBURTON said he considered it most objectil;
able for the judges of the land to pass sentences which it ;;,0
never intended to carry into effect. If any great change der
to be effected, it ought to be done with the sanction and n-olf
the authority of an Act of Parliament. He wished to VI 1.,
whether a criminal could insist upon his sentence being ea
ried out ?
Lord CAMPBELL said that, in his opinion, he could nos
the power was given to the executive to transport if ito
desirous of so doing, but there was no compulsory obligette
b r
Lord BROUGHAM said, that he desired to know I,'ne',o.
his Noble and Learned Friend was of opinion that the n•l` for
five could imprison for life after sentence of transportation
life had been passed ? .njoe
Lord CAMPBELL said that he certainly was of On'
that there wes such a power vested in the Executive. Ol
Lord LANSDOWNE said that it was not the intent'°• bt
his Noble Friend to advise the Crown to a course which clot
appear to be even indirectly illegal, although really leeah,..et,
the Act of Parliament was perfectly clear upon the ,114 ,cl,
and seemed framed to meet the objection of the Noble Pn-e,
The Act expressly gave the Government power to trano
port or retain in prison. (The Noble Lord then !fie,'
the words of the Act. Now, in no case could he become enti:e •
to his liberty, even if he had teen confined contrary to hiatefb°6
tence. He said that this clause provides that no man ctin. ost
prevented from suffering the imprisonment to which he the
sentenced, whether for one mouth, one year, io
or even forn,
whole term of life. He was quite ready to admit, that do
posing Government was quite ready to give all the opera at
which his Noble Friend desired, yet he felt quite assured,
re,
it was quite necessary to have the experience that this
commended. He did not consider this as a permanent
1; mi site.te A
tion, but as a temporary trial. This was a departure, a —wbo
departure from the old practice, and his Noble Friend,
that
was lately Secretary, would, he felt assured, be convinced rise
it was not intended to depart from the established prae
without some sufficient reason, and that reason was to be
certained by •he trial that was soon to be made. f tbif
Lord BROUGHAM felt that from the construction o•
very clause, that it was intended to do away with the princia.,
of transportation. if they were to punish offenders by ioP,II
sonment instead of by transportation, transportation b,r sCYf
years was either too long or too short. It was too long ',Ds
imprisonment, but too short for transportation, for, in (Act, t"
people were sent out for three or four years, and not for se!'ei
Lord Lyndhurst had no recollection of what had 'General,
when, he brought in his Act when he was Attorney' th
but the principle had been adopted by him of rnedifY"
system of transportation; but he had left it to the usual the
ciples of the law to rectify the abuses, while he Prese'„
principle. ient
Lord ASHBURTON conceived that there was no coo
time for testing the principle, and that the clause svoulu,nh to
effect ins purpose. Ile thought, therefore, that there on,zur.ter
be some change so as to bring the experience within A shot
Pe the
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH conceived that nee
change could not be made, unless there was some assurColo'
that the Noble Earl, who was now Secretary for the
„eta
nice, would remain in office until its results were fully a'

tained. .
the
The Earl of CHICHESTER thought that, however d nol
rule might work with respect to adult offenders, it WOi 00
apply to juvenile offenders, for it was unwise and unjust l°otber
a boy sentenced to transportation to Pentonville, when ll'Ky
person under the same sentence was sent abroad. The re
no equality of punishment between the two offenders. ,
_t tbis
Earl GREY quite agreed with his Noble Friend, Woo
princip'e could not be universally adopted. In 1841, bee
motion was moved in the House of Commons, it had tot
mooted that there was DO such equality. for the fact was' ity
by far the greater number of convicts sentenced to tranql:
Lion were for seven years, the greater part of whom wet' thef
tinded to be sent to the hulks and kept at home, and whou,..
had suffered a certain degree of punishment they should 'l'
at lierty.
After a mutual explanation between Lord BuouGll°i sill
the Earl of CHICHESTER, Select

The LORD CHANCELLOR put the motion, that a the
Committee be appointed to inquire into the execution,
criminal law with respect to transportation, and especild'Y
respect to juvenile offenders. tal'erj
The Earl of ELLENBOROUG II complained of being
by surprise. bat
The LORD CHANCELLOR offered to put it agate'
this was declined, and the Committee was agreed upon.
CENTRAL TERMINUS AT GLASGOW port
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid on the table the re of
of Commissieners appointed to inquire into the neceasitY
central terminus at Glasgow.

JUVENILE OFFENDERS
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE also laid on the tablolitcbee
report of Mr. Burrell, magistrate of Queen-square POII4
office, respecting the committal of John Hockham to TO
fields Prison.

LABOURING POOR (IRELAND) BILL. „d
The amendments moved on this Bill were adopted, an
was read a third time and passed.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, March S.
MEASURES OF RELIEF FOR IRELAND'
Mr. ROEBUCK (in continuation) proceeded to `ri
ce
It was asserted that the Irish proprietors had infle-o•
with the Cabinet on this question, because a great Pr"
portion of the Government were themselves owners !o
Irish property. It was stated that the Administrationcl
were favourable to the claims of the Irish party, %a
that they did not in reality wish the Irish propertYXo,
made r. sponsible fur the relief of Irish distress. -1.!11.,
outside of the Cabinet knew all about it. The ri,,°,„4
n,-vvspaper had been the great Bude light which P'o,
revealed the secret workings and feelings of the Gover.a
went. It was therefore necessary that he should state -1.
about it. It was necessary, in order to show how ale!,
feelings went, to inform them that the Marquis of Le°;,
downe, one of the Cabinet, was a principal Irish Pr"r
prietor ; and that the Earl of Clarendon, another rher4bheo
os
ht the?u.i d
furtherab inet
statew as thetha
that
same. Lord It
taesa
rri
e w necessaryhoti
Minister, was beating at the door for a6dn; ission--("s
laughter)—was also a landed proprietor. He might-,°
state that another Noble Lord in the' Cabinet, 1141°0".°
advent to office set Europe a shaking, ";,-,1
also an Irish landed proprietor. He ille-ho
Lord Palmerston. He might also name th
Duke of Devonshire and another Noble Lord, W-4,°‘;
if not in the Cabinet, had considerable junkie/3,y
over it—he meant Earl Fitzwilliatn—who were 13,rt
prietors of laud in Ireland. The House would recolire%
how the latter Noble Earl had supported the grand bow
of the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn, and
at
the knowledge of that fact had led many to surmise
the Government would have to declare in its fav°_`:c.▪ ,
With these, as members of the Government, or influent'
ing its decisions, he (Mr. Roebuck) could realise ,_,
feelings of the Noble Lord the INlMemberLynn, when he asked for sixteen millions, üb'e
other influences had proved stronger, . and
and they had to succumb. Still the declaration
Noble Lord (Earl Fitzwilliam) showed the fe 111'- 5
which animated these Irish proprietors. One more
instance he might give, though the noble
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he would now name, he must say, bore an excellent•
adtnirabl., character that was Lord 13esborougyne
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He was likewise an Irish proprietor. He con
more; but with this, as connected with the.
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it just
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went, he would ask, was it decent, was
the people of Englund to ask exemption from the bu (!_e_L'a
imposed on the United Kingdom? Ho had alwaysdgit"
i for
the Noble Lord at the head of the Government ere
courage, he had thought him brave; and he at; nothing
rriinth,
him for this, though he liked his policy almost itfn
ho
else; but he must deny him even this qualit),
oor i"
gave way to the Irish landlords on the p
He would tell the Noble Lord what they would dtio agseeclett!
the country and outvote him.—(Hear, hear.) rie ~c had
tain carrying a majority against the Noble Lord: e felt
never spoken so strongly before in that House, b t
factorily explained his intentions upon this ques • was
strongly upon the subject. The Noble Lord badt.,:rrt salts;
answer to the question which ho (Mr. Roebuck) had put if
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not the brat question which he 01r. Roebuck) had put