The Sun.
London, England, 1841-02-27 00:00:00

MORNING EDITION.

ax future generations. He should vote for the amend-
er ant, because he thought he could not do better.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw and the House
divided—
When there appeared—
For the motion
For the amendment
Majority in favour of the original motion —lO3
Mr. HUME sa'd that he should take another oppor-
tunity of proposing that the words relating to the Consoli-
dated Fund should be omitted.
Sir JOHN HO B HOUSE said that it was impossible
to effect such an object.
The other clauses were then agreed tn.
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fie would reserve what he had to say until he had seen all
the papers upon the subject.
Mr. LABOUCHERE wished the House to understand
that although it was intended to put rum, the produce of
the sugar cane in the East Indies, upon the same footing
as that produced in the West Indies, it was not intended to
apply the principle to spirits generally. Upon clause 3, he
proposed to add words, giving to the Gavernor-
General the power of making regulations far the pur-
pose of preventing frauds. He had considered the matter
very attentively, and found it impossible to undertake to
constitute a machinery for that purpose, at least until they
bad seen what regulations were adopted by the Governor-
General, and how far they were successful.
Mr. HUME quite agreed with the Hors. Gentleman on
that subject. He thought that every colony should be
left to make its own regulations on these subjects. But
be could not help regretting that the Government were
Niggling about the spirits to which the proposed equaliza-
tion should be extended.—(Hear, hear.) Why not admit
all spirits? He had hoped that a mere liberal policy
would be pursued, and that they would be prepared to
take from India every article which they required fur hone
consumption. It appeared to him a very insane restriction.
The people of India were as much the subjects of her Ma-
jeaty as we were, or those in the West Indies, and there
ought to be no restriction on the intercourse or the free
interchange of produce between all. The talk of East In-
dia interests and West India interests had been the bane,
of th's country. Ile hoped the Right. Hon. Gentleman
would introduce a clause opening the trade to all spirits
made in India.-
Mr. LABOUCHERE hoped thegonse "dal& eenfinie
itself to the question then before thelloute.". Ire had ire
.traduced the Bill.asAue.affeetina onl KtUricl-110,40Cut4 ,
tbink he was caentratteng- a tweieha' faith 'inereise to alirree:
to the suggestion of the Hon. .Member. He had the ques-
tion of free intercourse as =eh at heart as the lion.
Gentleman, but he thought the present was rot the time to
go into the largo questions tbct would be opened up were
he to consider the question cf India spirits generally.
Mr. GOULBURN suggested that some clause ought
to be introduc d in order to secure that no rum but that
the produce of the sugar cane was introduced under this
Bill. He had prepared clauses for that purpose, and if
the Bill should go through Committee, he would cornmu-
nicatethem to the Right Hon. Gentlemen, and move them
at a futere stage.
Mr. LABOUCHERE did not think there was nny ne-
cessity fur the introduction of such provisions. The Cu:-
toms were of that opinion, and he thought it would be tot-
ter to leave all the regulations on the subject to the Indian
Government. Everybody knew that rum was exported
from England to the Continent, and that three-fourtbs of
that was British spirit. Now all he dc-iced was, th t that
superintendence should be exercised over the menufacture
of ruin which would effectually guard against those abuses
which they professed to guard against.
Mr. HAWES protested against the whole line of argu-
ment adopted in the present discussion. The Right Hoc.
Gentleman (Mr. Geulburn) looked to his own especial in-
terest, and not to that of the public. Because if it was the
interest of the public to have the Right Hon. Gentleman's
rum it was also their interest to have it cheap. He (Mr.
Hawes) considered that what was now proposed was a most
useful step. The Excise regulations were more stringent
in the East Indies than in the Went, and he quite agreed
with the Right Hon. Gentleman the President cf the
Board of Traci-, that they should be put on an equal toot•
ing. He was told the Rght Hon. Gentleman the Mem-
ber for the Tower Hamlets (Sir S. Lushington) meant to
ing a motion before the House with respect to the sub-
ject of slavery; when that motion was brought forward it
would he scan that free labour was a far greater source of
profit than slave labour. He (Mr. Hawes) found in the
clause the words " British protection." Now nose not all
those places to which the Bill referred to be considered as
dependencies of the British empire ? Were they not all
governed by officers of the British Crown, and why should
the people there not have the benefit ofsheir protection?
Mr. COULBURN denied his advocating the interest
of the Wert Indies further than it coincided evith the inte-
rest of the public generally.
The CHANCELLOR.of the EXCHEQUER thought
they might meet all the objects proposed to be gained by
the clause without adopting the very words of it. He ce -
tidily had some objection to the. Right Hon. Gentleman's
clause being adopted in its present sta.°. He the (Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer) thought that whatever should
be done agreeably to what was suggested in the clause
should be none in India. He was satisfied that a discre-
tionary power should be vested in the Privy Council in
thin country, which could occasionaly be brought into no-
tion. He could not consent to any words limiting the
mode in which their objects were to be carried into r ffect,
and consequently to the words proposed he had a strong
objection.
Mr. WARBURTON hoped no words would be in-
troduced into the Bill subjecting the produce of the sugar
cane to any other_ restrictions tnan those on- West India
pioduce. lie thought that-ivy preserintionne mod;
1.1 which the Governor-General of India should carry these
objcc:s into effect would be injurious to the East India
interests; and he thought this would be the effect of the
words proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman. All he
(Mr. Warburton) wished was that the restrictions on the
produce of Leath countries should be precisely the same..
Mr PALMER thought that if this equal zati ,n of
duty took place, the, West Indies were in justice entitled
to the removal of certain restrictions under which they
laboured, such as the proLiSitory duties on timber and
provision?.
Mr. SHIEL said their object was to introduce East
India rum at the came duty as the rum of the West
Indies, but to have security that it should be the produce
of the sugar cane. The question was, bow could they
ob'ain that object? It appeared to him that the Ineansi
must be lel% with those who were most conversant with
the country.
Mr. HOGG agreed in all that had been said respecting
the undenennding that the duty en sugar being equalized,
the duty should be oho equalized on rum, bring the pro-
duce of the sugar cane.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that he would endeavour
to meet the views of the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite.
The clause was then agreed to he passed over.
The Bill was then reported, with amendments, and the
report was ordered to be received on Monday next.
RAILWAYS BILL.
On the motion cf Mr. LABOUCHERE, the Rail-
ways B:11 went through Comm'Vee.
The Lease and Release Bid was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed on Monday.
MEDICAL REFORM.
Mr. HAWES moved for leave to bring in a Bill for
the better government of the Medical Profession.
Cepia'n PE CIIELL said that the Hon. Member hav- '
ing stated that he clO not intend to extend his Bill to
cherniats and druggists, he should certaiely not oppose
the Bill.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
HULL DOCKS.
Mr. HUTT moved that the Minutes of Evidence taken
during the last Session of Parliament before the Commit-
tee on the Hull Docks, be laid before the House, and

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pinted.
Mr. SHIEL thought it would, be of great service that
the evidence should be published.
M-. GOULBURN thought the House ought to Le
car Jul ho,v they sanctioned the printing of evidence feint-
ing to a Trivate undertaking at the public expense. It
would b., a dangerous precedent.
The motion nas then agreed to.
MUNICIPAL COUNCILS.

Mr. J. A. SMITH moved for leave to bring in a Bill
t) ente,le Municipal Councils to raise money by granting
Annuitie's. and to apply the same in payrrentof old debts.
Mr. GOULBURN opposed the motion which, after a
few words f. urn
Captain PEC HELL, was withdrawn.
MATES IN THE ROYAL NAVY.
Captain PECHE LI, moved for a return of all mates
in the Royal Navy, showing the year and month in which
they passed their examination for the rank of Lieutenant.
INQUESTS ON PAUPES.
On tie motion of Colonel SIBTHORP, the follow-
Cthheelvseeiientbof
"d
lagss in
:set s thhaev eNbeewe nP lot oe
lr tl-
ing returns were ordered :_Re
sin
of the number cf
easl.s, for seven }earn, before
°,D7atnenesi :lc: f, eaentvdi den c e taken o n
law came into operation, t) the latest period to which the
return con be made up, on which
17 el roof
Ensic:fe.sfnSoctafehmtetbuabkernlecin on the ioquest held
on the bodies of deceased paupers, specifying the nam,s
and ages of each, the placas in which such inquests have
beenttbh e i
minutesheld,ur vs. t tb,:(f j
pncia:
the inquest 11,1c1 before the coroner of the county ef Mid.
Ci•ol custiTonf t Yl''' ei
dbdoll x , in August, 'lB4O. Also copies 'e
tho coroner
of the county of Middlesex on the
body of
James Lindscv, in the Union W "1d,,,,, in
Workhouse at H
the county of Middlesex, November iddlesex, in -
and December
1840.
The House then Adjourned.

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS.

NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE.
THURSDAY, FEu. 25, 1841.

), Neweastle-upon.Tyne and Carlisle Railway,—Committee on
Petition, March 11.
2. Newcastle upon-Tyne Improvement,—Comi on Pct., March 11.
Cambuslang and Multi:irk Roads and Bridges,—Committee on

Petition, postponed from March 4 till March 5.
Scrabster Ilarbour,—Committee on Petition, postponed from

- March 2 ti:l March 4.
5. Glasgow, Pais!cy, and Greenock Railway,—Second Reading,

March 1.
7. IlVlitigrha.ntinSmana(lll March 1.
6. Exmouth.Market,--Second Reading, March 1.
cßoiaidLeya:_iinsgec,
altaarcjitrela.ding,
9, Marsh Giht,on Inclosure,—Committee on Petition, March 9.
10. Atherstnne Sinaq Debts,—Committee on Petitien, March 9.
-11, Birkenhead Gas and Waterworks,—Second Reading, March 1.
Birkenhead Church,—Second Reading, Marc 1.
13. Bat Road,—Second Reading, March I.h
14. Wells (Somerset) Road,—Second Reading, March 1.
15. Chelsea Poor,—Second Reading, March 1. •

uncir-rt AT ES.—Thursday three gentlemen
eee summoned to Lambeth—greet Police-office, to show
a rate levied by the parish
cor yt.s4LheY ho'naeryzsef
,Ba'reolinlte to pay
:. Two of the three, on reli-
gious grounds, refu.ed to pay, preferring to let the law
have its coup se; tte ether pakl4he rate.
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