The Sun.
London, England, 1815-03-21 00:00:00

mind -ItY their Troceedinas at Vienna, and
shown thait they ryere treading in the very steps of
the' man who had laid almost the v-hole of Eu-
rope prostrate at his feet. One of these Sore-
reiens had in March 1812, enteved iaio a s t.r
treaty with him, sigared by Prince tic.' vartzea-
betg, by which die Emperor of Austria as hoond
in every thing that could be hostile to this mot-
tey. He had undertaken to assist linoarirarte
his mad expedition against Russia, aid whirhhad
ransed his overthrow for a time XVe should isekve.
forgotten that when we saw the Emp rte Alex=
alider and the King Frederic William received
with civic hononrs in our capital; and vi ring by
the side of our Prince Regent,- stanntai with ac-
clamations,
.the time was not very distant when
those two personages bad sat beside Burenaptirte
for the pni-pose of plotting the overthrow and de-
struction of this country. Bit when we see them
pursuing ti same track-as had been gone over by
the t licitly of ofaukiml, we could not but protest
against those principles which they had •adopt- •
eel, and we ought to tell them, that the only
inVans which could contribute to set up agAin the
Giant who had disappeared for a tiine, were'the
adoption of those very principles which had cans-
(al his overthrow. He had hoped that such art •
impression would have been made on the minds of
the Sovereigns, as. would have convinced them
that they could not be magnanimous in one place
and petty-minded itt ahother: For his owiapart,
be was sanguine enough to imagine that Poland
would have been restored to complete imlepend-
-ence ; that Saxony would have heed left entire
that Finland would have been Oren back to Swe-
Ilen, and Norway to Denmark.; but eveata had
proved how entirely he was mistaken. At ohe
time, however, it had •heen said, that Russia was,
.of all other Powers, fulls-y bent on the restoration
of Poland, but that all these otter Powers .had
set themselves against it, and we see the Grand,
Duke Constantine tells the Poles, that as they
have fonght nobly and bravely for Europe, the
tittle would come when
.they would have to con-
tend tinder the Emperor of Russia for their hide-
peoultnce. To skew the spirit of the Emperor, he
said that he had got 500,000 men in Poland, to
settle the affairs of Europe ; but not the smallest
movement was made by them in behalf of the in,
dependence of that country ; but while, in other
quarters movements were going forward to de-
stroy independence. The Proclamation issued at
Dresden, had stated that Dresden, and the whole
of Saxony, were to be delivered_over in full
sovereignty to Frederic William, but to be
kept in the enjoyment of its liberties and reli-
gion. As this was a part of the subject in
which ~ve were peculiarly interested, be should
read it. After t,uoting the Proclamation, in
question?, the Gent;eniaa Proceeded to ob-
serve, that soon ,afterwards an Order it Prince,
Rapid!) was published, :n which he asserted that!
Ire was to deliaer up Saxony. He (Mr. XV.) had
asked at the time, about the authenticity of diesel
Papers, and was told that no faith ought to be
placed in newspaper impositions; It• was said
that the Noble Lord was a party to this transac-
tion, and that his name was to the document..
This vats anl'.rince.Reptiiii,.and it
remained for the Noble Lord to say, t‘bether
Prince Repnin lied his authority, or a,liether it
was usurped. But it appeared that the Noble.
Lord, .actually did consent to give Saxony to
Prussia, %tivl we were told that within three weeks
after he•had consented to fte cession, the Noble
Lord delivered in a Note from England, protest-
' in` against the transfer, and that in cousequence,
S_axotry was eiveil only in part to Prussia. lie
would contend, that the Congress had no moral
right to make this transfer, and that it was a
scandalous traffic in. human beings. We knew
that the Saxons loved their Monarch and their in-
dependence, and-.that they protested against the
cession. Why was his Majesty the King of
Saxony to be a sufferer, any more than the other
Powers who had turned. about when it ,suited
their conveitiencel It was inhuman to pintish the
of Saxony, who had beets dragged on to iris
undoing, and because he was the last and weakest,
that he should have his States partitioned and his
subjects torn from him. ile had read his protest
with admiration, and thought he had aced like a
note. There. was another transaction with re-
gall] to Saxony that deserved the severest
reprobation : it was the case of two Officers,
who had led into the field a body of met'
tu behalf of the general cause. When tit; y
beard of time intended partition) of their coun-
try, they addressed a memorial to the Congres:,
againstit, and the answer was, that milit,ty men
kid no right to protest, and they were ordered
to be conveyed to a dungeon. Kiehnaner was the
person in whose name this announcement was
given ; and it was intimated, that what had
lolen done, was intended as a warning to ()diets.
he believed he had stated the substance or every
thing which had occurred in the course of the de-
bates on the subject of the Congr• ss, while the
Noble Lord was away : lie should now call his
attention to the transactions in -Italy, which were
of a still deeper die. He knew not what had
happened to the Noble Lord to make him all at
once so coodeacendingio the produetioo ut paa-
pers. Ile, and two friends had taken the liber-
ty, with all that humility which . became persons
ar unofficial situations (Laughter) to ask
pine to make good a promise in Juts' 1814, of
presenting a treaty entered into subser;uent to that
vt Chaomont. At first the effect of his reply on
being asked for this treaty was, " you are going
to pass at censure upon it, therefore you shall not
have it ;" but on a motion being made, the No-
ble Lord had had the courtesy to bring down not
Only the Treaties which hail been asked for, but
some which had not. When the Treatywith
Ferdinand 'VII. latd first been asked about, the
Chancellor of the Exchequer smiltil with his
asaal good nature, and said that it could not he
given on any account ; but the Noble Lord 1)4
brought it down quite unexpected,y. We had
said, that in the tiapplementary Treaty of Chau-
mont there was something Bite a siipalation for
the paymeut of money : But, said the Noble
Lord, you have not paid one far thing. if the
'!treaty is ratified, the money must be paid ; but
not else," Now it turns out that the Tretty has
been ratified, and the moatv has not been paid.
At that time the Allied Powers t.vei:e in a most
tienetitied attitude, and ruade a struts ;:oulitto.o

against France. tot the Treaty of Chaumont
was hap! ilk dceatecl by the entry; of the Allies
into 110.7.-, and the mhsequem Treaty was to
keep up A lover; till the regulation's of the Treaty
of Paris -, d been falilled. He had been told,
when a,king lor in ft:rinar ion on this subject, that
it was oecessary to keep up a large army of ob.
servation till the time, when the Congress should_
have terminated- their labours, and taken PSS:e,S's
1011 of their States. Now it appears that Con-
gress have terminated their business, but nothiog
has been done wiaii regasd to the troops, and the
men are not paid. He would now" revert to
what had taken place- in Italy, whereiu he
con•idered the conduct of Austria to- be nothing.,
less than usurpation, as,rank nod iniquitous- as any
that had taken place tinder Buonaparte. in the
Tte4tv of Parg, by the. sixth article, it is stated
that Holland shall receive an increase of territory.
He wished to ask, whether there was .any secret
article in that Treaty respecting Belgium ? It
teas stipulated that Italy, beyond the limits of
the country which was to revert to Austria should ,
he composed of independent States. He thought
when he read that article, that it contained no
equivocation, because it was said- that the ancient
States of Austria shoal(' revert to Austria, and. that
the other States winch were independent previous
,to the Oyer-running or them by the French, should
be restored to their former condition. How great
then was his surpiise to find that Austria 'had
-taken possession of the Venetian Republic. Was
this an ancient State or was it not ? Was it to
he urged as a instil-I-cation for the conduct of
Austria, that it had been unjustly seized. by
the ,French and delivered over to Austria,-
and that, therefore, Austria, had a right to
take possession of it again ? Under this
'vord, ancient State,' both Venice and Genoa
and Lucca_ were described. There were some
persons in that House who remembered in
1800, the language,of Mr. Fox (a name which
lie could never titter without -I.everence) ;
when speaking of the .cession of _Venice by the
'Treaty of Luneville, he compaced it with the in-
famous Slave Trade, and declared that he would
always protest against the infernal traffic, whether
in black, Or white human flesh. Gen. Mateschal
had addressed -the 'Venetians, and told them that
they xv,ere consigned to Austria, and this was all
they knew of the subject of their transfer. Could
any thing be more galling in its nature, or more
atrocious . than this deed? But what took place
also in the Milanese, where the Viceroy had ac-
tually capitulated with Marshal 'Belle-garde ?He
said that his army had come to occupy the coun-
try in the.name of the Allies, and not in the name
of Austria ; or else that estimable man, the Vice-
roy, of' whom every body speaks well, would pro-
bably have. resisted him. The capitulation was,
that the. Regency should remain in the exercise
of its powers, . till the final arrangements of the
Congress shoal. he made. Possession was thus
°hulloed of the country; and since that time
the Mda;)flAahad been usurped by Austria, and
a. trihatial iti,,)tituted at Milan, which was the
terror of all Italy : it threatened to bring all per-
sons before it who should dare to talk of the pro-
ceedings of Austria. They had even been threat-
ered -with executions, and by this tyranny and
cruelty of- Austra, the seeds. of revolution bad
been riveted.,among§t the Italians; of which a
dreadful result might be expected. There was.
another part of Italy whose intended
Indirie“ IITIE•n(“V!! titl it was rounu Cosa vettivritdaj
Put it m execution Before the Noble Lord left
this country, he had told the House that it was
well aware of our counectiou with our old ally the
King of S city, but that his interests would never
he. overthrown. Now it No happened that a treaty
appeared, purpotaing to he sianed in April, 1814,
with joachini,Murat, King of Naples. . The Noa.
tic Lard knew the value of that person and his
army, and how important it wool(' be to detach
him from his former master. The treaty was
signed Lord W. Bentinek, and it was the co-
uperati in of Joachim with -the Allies, and -his:de-
fection front the Freilfh, that determined the fate
of Italy a for ..the Viceroy said, that -as soon as he
learned that Joachim had turned against him, he
could no longer maintain himself., When the 'English
Government was taxed with want of faith, lie
had .been told, that the Noble Lord had sent to
Lord W. Bentiack to say that :Eagland had no
hand in the Produnation, and that she would.
abide by the Treaty. Alexander also was-said to
have written a letter to Murat with his own hand;
but the Treaty of Paris took plate, and then har-
ing declared that he would not treat either with ,
Buonaparte or ally branch of his family, it was.
understood that it was not sent.. The Hon. Gen-
tleman then adverted to what had passed respect-
ing the King of Sicily, when Lord W. Bentinek
landed o:i his behalf at Leghorn, and after re-
peating all those remarks on the occurrence.
which ire had made on former occasions, he con-
tended that this country wits bound to support
Sicily by the solemn Treaties of 1808 and 1809 ;
but that such was the predicament into which we
had got, that either this or the one with Murat
must be broken. The Noble Lord would not say
that Murat was not to be supported in his preten-
sions allot yet, .since the .traceting of the Con-
gress, there haul been something like an hoima-
tion thrown out that the Kiag of Naples must I
descend front his Throne. How wise, how po-
litic, how admirable was all this—but was it not
a breach of hollow.? Yet within these last. three
days things may have occurred which will pro-
bably change this opinion. There now remained
the last and „worst point which he had to notice,
and in which the Noble Lord appeared to have
played a part more personal than in any other.
Ile alluded to Genoa. Here tire Hon. Gentleman
went into On elaborate review of the proceedings.
'dative to that territory, in transferring it the
King of Sardioia; and repeated all the condem-
natory remarks which lie had applied. to the trans-
action during the absence of the Noble Lord;
ridiculing the letter of General Dalrymple, and
concluding. with expressing his opinion, that in
the treatment of the Cenoese had been wrought
together all the cruelty and infamy that it trans
possible to collect into any one point, tie then
adverted to the. Slave Trade, •and acruaal
the
Noble Lord with having acted with laketrarniness
on thitt subject at the woe of the Treaty of Paris,
Where, if lie had displayed sufficient energy, the
traffic ?NUM lILLY: buvu teuounccd by- !'ranee itt

0:-ce. lie then adverted to the pretence of Fer-
dinand VII. that lie would take the subject int-)
his consideration ; and contended that the limiro-
tion obtained for it to within ten degrees Nor !,
of the Equator. for the supply of the Spanish
Colonies was a contemptible farce and mockery
Alluding to the insurrection in South Ame-
rica, he prayed to God thitt: it might be ef-
fectual, as these people had cast from them
the only blot in their character—they had altiolish-
ed the trade altogether. He hoped that Vie So-
vereigns of Europe would he awakened •to a just
sense of their situation by the return of the Exile of
Elba, and that they would be convinced that thev
mrst not nlay any pranks they pleased, and thir:
they would be secure in their iniquity. He asked
if.the Proclamation said to be issuelj by hint was
genuine, and declared that if it was, he had made
out a tale which must strike every man that he
had been treated with the utmost injustice by the
Allied Powers,. with ought to have given him no
pretext whatever' for stirring in thelvorld again.
He paid a high encomium to the conduct of Louis
:VIII. and &dared that whatever had been
done toiresist the invader and conciliate the peo-
ple, had'heen owing to his own firmness and dis-
cretion. He concluded his speech, by hoping,
that whoever might ultimately be secure on the
Throne of France, that the Sovereign would con-
sult the happiness Of his people and the world, by
doing every thing to render peace universal and
permanent. He then moved

" That an humble Address be presented to the Prince Re-
gent, praying that he will be graciously pleased to direct that
there he laid before the House an Account of the Progress
made at the Congress of Vienna, stating such transfer or an-
nexation of territory as may have taken place-together with
such other information as may be given, without prejudice to
the Public Service."
Lord CASTLEREAGH assured the House, that
one of the most painful sensations which be felt
on rising on this occasion, arose from the neces-
sity imposed upon him of trespassing so long as
he must do on their patience. The subject was
so important, and so complicated, and the ho-
nour and interest of this country bound up in
the honour and the interest of Europe, so implia
sated in* it, that it would be impossible for him
to avoid addressing them at very considerable
length. He could not hut protest against the
manner in whiCh the various topics to which he
should have to refer, had been prematurely brought
forward, on, imperfect information ; he pro-
tested against it on account of the dangers to
which such improvident conduct subjected the
country. The House was now called upon to
decide, not merely whether the interests of this
country had been protected, and how protected,
but to determine if a vestige of character re-
mained to the country, and the Government of
the country, or, (for these were the taro alter-
natives with which the Honourable Gentleman
had thought proper to wind up the drama),
whether the Councils of those Sovereigns of Eu-
rope on whom our hones of peace depended, had
any pretensions to wisdom and integrity. On
these points he trusted the Noose' would come to
a conclusion very different from that which the
Hon. Gentleman seemed disposed to adopt, and
the task was imposed upon him to repel for them,
and for himself, for this country, and for Europe,
the insinuations which had been thrown out
against all parties concerned in the.negociations
which were still going on. He certainly could
-riot complain of the mode in which the Hon.
lirmight f0r1.V14113 this
charges which he considered it Its duty to prefer.
He knew he (Mr. W.) was too manly to disguise,
in his presence, that -which he had submitted to
the Hhttae in his absence. This was, perhaps, the
only point of union between them, widely as they
were separated in polities. The Hon, Gent. had ne-
ver hesitated to attaek hint, openly, and he had never
hesitated to repel the charges he had neule He
had never complained of- the species of attacks
made made upon hint as being personally ungenerous,
but be had complained of them as being injurious
to the public service, as prejudicial to the gene-
ral interests of the country, and as tending to de-
prive the. Government of ;advantages:of which no
Government ensaged in an. important Negocia-
tion ought to be deprived. He had felt it his
duty on his return to Parliament to protest against
that novel practice which had been introduced,
of discussiog questions which were the subject of
the Negociation before any thing cold(' be cer-
tainly known respecting them. He must raise
his voice against . such a practice; he must deny
that any Gentleman., from a morbid jealousy of
the conduct of Ministers, should presume to im-
pute dishonour, disgrace, and profligacy to his
own Sovereign and country, and put the Go-
vernment on their defence, on garbled state-
ments which lie might be able to collect from fo-
reign countries, containing assertions and insinua-
tions put forth .by the agents of other Powers,
which they, did not. dare to avow in the face.of
Europe.—(Hear, hear, hear !)—The consequence,
of such conduct must be to reduce Ministers to
this dilemma-a-they must either refute the charges.
brought against them, on imperfect data, and
therefore necessarily on imperfect reasoning, or
they must make premature disclosures of a nature
flatten. very -to riteapol-ille- interest. - e-
would contend that no Ministers %rare fit to meet-
those of other Powers who were so low in the esti-
mation of their own countrymen, that they could
not be entrusted of themselves to conclude the busi,
nets in which they were engaged-a-who deserved to
be attacked while negociations were still pending,
by those• who might be expected prima facie to
repose confidence in thema The Hon. Gentle-
man had very candidly called on • him •to-night
to acknowledge or disavow the documents on
which his charges .wel-t, founded ; but lie had to
complain, that 'on these. he had brought forward
charges in ;xis absence, when it was not possible
they could. be disavowed, even thooglathey were
very incorrect. The object of the Hon. Gentle-
man had been stated to be, to ascertain if the
papers which had come into his possession. were
or were not authentic. To Obtain this informa-
tion, Ministers were prematurely called upon- foe
explanations, which given, woold'not fail to coma
mit them with all the Forcien Powers with which
they were connected., 'I his were compelled
to risk, in order to exculaate themselves on in-
snlated questions, or starer it to be assumed, that..
riot
et teL
i).9s thrown
zatitii
ion. out against them were
.
If there ha:l been uo

difference generally between the Hon.
men and himself, as to the mode in which be
acks had been matte, on auother peint,ecti
trusted there had been es little difference bet"h.d,
:hem, namely, as to the responsibilitY
would adl hint (Lord Cestlereagh) dt be
charges brought forward against him slioull to
proved. On
.the present occasion, he begg' he
decline .taking to himself treat cover tslitclm
Hon. Gent. had offered him ; he insist deeliue
tering himself on the plea, t het he was thtly,"l-,11
dividtud Minister of the Crown—that lie on'o.l
Ihible tc a share of respensibilitv as out "f -
Majesty's confidential servales, Uri otelipary,°'io
casjoos, he should 'be ashamed of assumiee .14
himself preeminent resnowsibdity the C°",e
cil..
of the Government, but the present ,
it was impossible for him; without deg.,,,eao,er
to his personal character, to shelter himselt on 'id
the cover which had been °tiered to him,' 1."),,
that superior responsibility whiCh attached to tr
peculiar w
situatiou in hich he had been pl"c'd',
`
If there bad been any motive for sendiirg lints ac
all ou the late, or ou the former mission on "1 .dz
he bad left the country, it certainly was heea°of
with the knowledge he. hail of the sentiments 3
the Governments, and of the prince at the hest)
of it, on all the great political topics, it "'a' 6°',),1
posed, in the arduous mid difficult sitnatidu
which the Minister from this country would stai!.n.
he might be able to act without waiting t°r I e
structicms on all occasions, without in"k'llbs.
reference to the Government on every quteee
don of importance that might arise. It ;he
House could suppOse, that tinder any "I
ever
•
circumstances of t negociatious he had ~.
suffered the affairs of Europe to stand stilt
a wish to lessen his own responsibility, by wrjt.ee
home for instructions from the Government, de
wished most anxiously to put down this idea.
had not done so ; and if he had taken
course, he would have betrayed the great twit
committed to him on his responsibility, "1 ce
was therefore on this account he was anxi°`
assume on the present occasion, in justice
colleagues, and still more in justice to his ilo
character, pre-eminent tesponsibility, if the
nour, -
of the Crown, the good faith of the oatia.o„
or the general policy of the country had bee°
jured, violated, or disgraced, in the eves ot 1114
rope. It was on these principles be .desirecin
o•
meet the manly attack which the lion"ra 1,01
Gentleman had made on him in his presence, lie
which bethought, in justice_ to his eoautrY,:ib.,
(Mr. IV.) ought not to have made on him in l'i!lee
sence.—(Hear, hear, hear!) He repeated it; /lees
had done ‘rroug, under thepeculiar eircontst,3.lwy.
of the case, he claimed pre-eminent' responsi.,ll;oose
•He 'wished to discharge a debt due to the ee
ck
and to the country, by stating .generally do
had taken place at Vienna. This lie lcl e
very shortly in the present instance, bce4:teJ
the details would on a future day be sliblilibled
to the House, and they. would be better etni toeL
then to decide how far he had done what theY 'or
wished hint to do. He desired now to state ";;be
was et present the result of the Congress. t tee
House had by their vote directed him to "ecobee
whole•power of-the country to procure tlif
joer
lition of the Slave Trade. At present he "1: m eefe
for no opinion of the house on the value os-_
-
exertions which- had been made 015 t!'ejs'eow.
Lion, for perhaps the mode of viewing ti",l'",p•A''
neceed With out a ieedable
'° fey
....re fire' the llCCOlriplistim,„, „f oteive' tV
veittly desired, might naturally dispose them
undervalue what lied been done, till they were to
Heed of the difficulties with which he had hail
lo is
contend,
(kl-41.1- could have no difficulty :11101.05'
and were enabled to consider. tticatiet
them at pre-eit
have an opport.,te of knowing from the
which would be .si.remitted to them, what hr e(
done, and when these
„but Parliament yenta" oat
''ver.liseebieitsfe'i,g
re,ilitehnel''tl''ll-etifejitoili
convenient period for t
would arrive. When they
'were bet.°•reetied
he trusted it would be seen there "° EL i'E
,'
effort which bad not been made on the rooll•
Government, to procure the inunediete t) °,e heti
of that traffic; he trusted it would he seen tort that
been no want of zeal on their part to efitissiefi
great object. They had taken, while (q2:foeigil/
it, a tone which had been painful tt'•
Powers, which,. indeed, has been, in s° "TheY
spects, injurious to our' foreign. relations•wobeet-
had 'felt, in taking this tone, it eras ine te our
upon then: to.prove that no selfish vievs,. 1109'
own colonial interest had actuated cis"l"le Coe
catieg the cause of humanity ; that, on litileehert
teary, they were prepared, while calliu-g °l,e(gre9t
powers to make what-to them appeared 'ller'.
sacrifices, tomake considerablesarrifice°l, ewe t°
of England. A determination had bee') s° or
, be c(
make the utmost sacrifices that caw° , t
niently made. This %%emit! be aelitiowleVa(e beef'.
the House saw the pronosiiions which od edlel
made to Spain, Portugel, and Preece `4t, itovrehe
it was found what the Ministers of il“'sease,
to reot woo;
had thought th chisel ves .obl;.ged
House would feel those difficalties were,n-neot. been
siderahle which such tempte,,iuns
icor
sufficient to overcome, Firri be 1199 - cilee
induce a dispositiOn not to degrade eon tsb
Government which could not
the saute view of the subject "1"c ll
10`
with more rapidity than England, withtioe, ,
rorol. Thic
morality, and all her stiff, ior orse
jor
lm
herself been brought to take thet diet tl
she now pursued. It would be sec,nritorill) 'tee
had refused great objects, barb "1: 04,11,(1,
cif a pecuniary nature. The fee osaltedYl .lpc
subjects of those nations mus;. be torts seototoor.
this boiime in mind, some alie'ratic,o, we edasC
made tor the backwerdnesses te.ti,„ to dL•c--ofee"
plaided,, mid we ought not by rev'" °the geicorp
thew , awl alienate their minds t"rtir° ~,e, Li De
—(llL' te
plishMent of the object in eee;
ieee"
hear !) The qnwstion he coast( 11,,„ it eery
" IP
in stete of greater prosperity than lie be brotighlitotoe
oril
last lelere the House. The taws' , eject
.11 le
oho" erol,
been able to stete was, that he sieve fiw
Frence :en engagement that tl",;_,e veers. eV
ShoUld finally cease at the end of
ci beePeote
that time, a general declarationu;:i e°.o IA
tained from Portugal that, she "',°,eve rfrade ;bee/
in the gradivil abolition of the 50' , Ebel , itft
froth a third power, namely,
I Cr gt.".
fmu urt-
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