The Sun.
London, England, 1815-05-25 00:00:00

SIR EDWARD PAKENFIAM

(;ones] G.I.`.iOVNE begged tis ask, whether Government
stint to propose that a'nranutuentshould be erected to Ilse
mem.or of Sir Edward Pakenham.
Lord CAI vitt,F,Aqii said, that bow greatly sootier Go-
vet-mm.4 might appreciate the general services of that gal-
lant °dicer, hip ,ticcess w,is nut of that nature to induce them
to erect to monument to him.,
General GASCOYNE replied, that if the Noble Lord meant
to.deelare that no mouninent should tie erected in 'is Lose of
this kind, lwcause no precedent could he adduced for such a
proceedusg,, he would tog to call Iho! attention of the House
to the peculiar merits of that brave others..
The SPEAKEIt• requested the goilaut General to observe,
that:there was no mutton before the House.
Osineral OAACOYNE then owe notice of a motion oo the
subject for Monday rtey.t„
Che SPLAKEtt said, that the House would not sit ou
slonday., '
; General GAC:COIiNE then observed, that he would take
an early opportnaity of submitting the question to the consi-
deration of the t tonse. •
.Sir IJI NRY. PARNELL presented Petitions from the Ca-
sthorteit Of Laucathire and Sheffield, io support of the Catho-
lic tinting. Ordered to lie on the tattle.. •
Sir JOHN NEWPOIVP moved for a return of the produce
of Irish Stamp Duties. Ordered. ,
BIRCH moped, that certain papers relative to the Li-
oeTpnist Dock Company•should •be laid • before, the [)Dose.
lie observed, that an application had been made tit (inverts.
talent for is loan of 20,001)1.; and about two years ago, ao,nool.
Lad heels advanced to the lame body; hut he uacnot aware
that the interest had- been paid, .and lie doubted whether
security Had been given.. . r
The C ev,E,LOR of the EXCHEQITER saw,- that the,
security primbsed to be given. to Governmetst was of the most
tmexcoptionable •him.] ti at. cook] be .offered.' ~The sum of
$O,OOOl, ',vas secured upon ample property. •
General OASCOYNE obwreed,, that the money" was
.not
oar the dock duties, but. en tettain Warehouses, and it
would remain for the. House •to judge whether the security
Was audit-lent. lie had no objection to examine, into the Ae-
cOunts.
3011 N NEWPORT doubted whether it wits usual -for
Governmesit to lend money on securities,- without the con-
treot•ot
Mr, r r ctmceived list he reg'itar, as the
1.
114 o.V‘.ls' from Scoro.p4rtieolor.kruit which
t0.:4; ...levorod lu iiitar purposes.
• After a kw wordri. from Mr..Sruith, and the Chincellor of
the Exchequer, 'it vas resolved that the Paper, should be
priuted.
DOWNPATRICK ELEcTurs.

Mr. Lee appeared at the bare and presented the names of
thq who had been chthen to decidt. nn the Ouwn-
patrici‘. Election Petition. •
On the nintion of the SPEAKER,- the Mimi:4 were mined
fiver, as, follow

fl Wholly liillet, liiq.
:Olt, Fl 'op. C. Bathurst.,
iciiiill 113triv, 4,.....1.
Cl' tiles Lit. ‘Vil",,,, 1:-,q.
),liar:; lirik„,Ftiv:; 1;41,
(.;tr tt iey litillt.,, F.ici.,

1/4.
Win Thishlrigh,
I-lon. Clement:
.1.,;.1T Esq
will. a. Cartwright. EFq,
.1(i.e1.11 'Attrryat,
Jelin Nic. Fitzakrrley,Eig.

1-lettry NN't•otte!,ley, Gonrgt! Uoliord, Esq.
rum dk FES.
i,ord printinttrd several naßers reiativelo
the Nonte I,tkrd then utto:rd, th:it, 'the ;bitty
litattts t,Sonitl be t ALert eons:Jilin ation on Friday
1.1A'.74KV.0. jowls. ytresetlttd to tie ilouse
front Tr:ltt,pot t on, Monday Wit, sttoula be ptinteii•
det ed.
( ;RANI' I 0 LOAD ,

Lord MILTON rtltei to notice, to tiring
under the consideration of the Ilonse the
.grant of
20.0001. .hadwalc.ibeen laude to Lord Melville
by the. East InitiA Company he .wished to be un-
dor:1(0(0 bringtog the question forward merely
'on (;round', and not from Orly, personal
feelingS animo,,ity towards either of the Noble
Lord,c, who wets' tile objects of it,
.The first re-
gurat information which the House had, or could
bave. of the tran—ietion, was front the letter
scbioh. the Earl of Bitultiughamshire, the President
of the Board of Commit!, had addres3ed to the
Chairman of the Court of Directors, recommend.
lug the grant to that Board ; and the chief
ground !Too which be 'rested his disapprobation-
of the ineihnre, was the fact of the East India
Company granting a sum of money to a persott
who hail never ((sett the servant of thy Company.
l'hh, he contended, was in violation of the Act
tinder- which the Company had received its Char-
ter. That was the
,t,rtravattien.Ot the chute charge.
it,oett Nlelville bring a servant ot the Crown, and
not of the East India Company, lte had -no right
to recche it gratuity froin that hotly $ and still
leis had the East Intlitt Company a right to make
that grant at the Snggest ion the Noble Lord at
the head of the Board of Controal. The trans.
aCtiein was cOrrnot in it's- COneeption; and mis•
chievons in its roosetinenee3; rill te, hug as he
did Ilium it, he felt it his ditty,to move
boil:st o t he donor.Ving "effect
jilt in t t he. later Aittatat to to the. Chairman
01 the East Ilona Coni.•any, the President ot the Cniontisr
Owlet's fur the lttitir.i of India had itttett vontc;try to the illicit
of the Ad& W the sof the King; tzhup. A hap. 4,r,
That the 'louse tiJuld nut but loots with jcithoisy on
lariflk eXpeftdittiro 011 a Minister 01 the trowu,, as wa us on
tttt intcrcour,c between the President of the .said Connnis-
fib.!t. U 4 ansltlll... t'ea't India Company, calculated to be bighli
detrimental .to the pu'ilic serynie, itre.Ac„
Mr% Oat the troilltllletiOnmlvort7
ell (0 by 11-.1: Nook Lord onld bear the charac•
ter which he had iluputcd to it. The Act of Par-
liioneat had nut b„..„ violated, nor hail the Noble
•
L ird,at the a the Boar( .
.Cootronl thinee
ith the' ditties of hift
ut)i incompatible
In the Ili's! .the" (InC-
tiors w.ni not it [nadir! ; but admitting.
it t 0
bt. ltit vvs Vet to kara in what 1(5 unpiopriety
Co:,.si-t rd. The Lord haul it,,,sioned, thrat
the Act prohibited any interference on the part of


tte rto;--od of Controai Atitii the grit nil.-nte Lj
the East India Company, It the Noble Lord
meant that It prohibited the Board of Conti-out
front ordeting any such grant to be made, he wat-,
tl.jfi'etly. ready to admit the justice of the tetnatk.
int the Noble Lord knew but little of that body„
if he was not aware that any order of that nature
which they Might receive front the Board of Cott-
trotl, would meet with the most inflexible-
s!stance, lint was the Board of Couttoul there-,
fort. preclutbd from giving advice to the Cora.'
patiy-? "[his was nut against the Act. Contront
was trot, although the name scone(l to imply
the sole. office of the Board.. Snperintendauce
and .direction Were also among their duties.—
any cases in nthieli they conceived that great
services to the Company; civil or military, had
been suffered to pass unrewarded, the Board was
not only permitted by 'the Act, but it was their
positive duty to make a representation CO the Com-
pany on the subject. ,For instance, if such con-
duct as that exhibited by the late brave General
Gillespie, who, when the mutiny was raging at
Vellore, rushed into the midst of it, and termi-
nated it at the risk of his life,' had been allowed
to go wire wartled by tlic Company, it would have
been the duty of the Board of Coutront to advise
the Company 'on the subject. B‘it the Noble
Lord finding !untying in the letter of the Act,
talked of the spirit of it 1-vs' having been violated.'
It aceosations were noshed to this extent; no
servant was siae.- But let the 'loose
examine the Noble Earl's letter, and they
iwoidd see nothing in it contrary even .to the
spirit of the Act—they would see nothing in
ii*beybod the tone of botrtrystion. And how dirt.
the letter originr.te. some proceedings which
had been published Mr, Thornton stated that
it originated in a conversation which he had with
the Noble Viarl at the head of the Board of Con-
tronl. it scented, had been pressed
by ismly pc; sou: to propose the grant in question ;
bid the Directors not choosing to do so until they
wvrt!snre Of the concurrence of the Board of Con-
troui, he had an• interview with the President of
the board, svhn, acquiescing in the proposed coca
sore, the letter written as writte as a kind of minute of
the conveysitt ion. And thi-: 'was the origin of the
proceeding which had been ,termed so corrupt,
jobbing, and atrocious lie readily admitted thist,
prima facie, a recottimeodatioo by a Minister of
the CI Own of a grata to ohe of his colleagues was
4 suspictous circonistance ; loot here the case was
altogether freed front any thing Which could'cause
a rational jealousy.

Sir J. iNc.ivrtid-r contended that the letter of the
esident of the, Board of Controut btatect as the
gromul of the grant which Ice recommended, that
the property'Of the late Lord 'Melville was inadc-
gnaw to debts, and that the preient Lord Mel-
ville hint made himself responsible for thein.-
The question, therefore, was a very ditferent one
from that of the 11mi:is or demerits of the lute
Lord Melville. It was. whether a PreSident of a
Board appothrtid by Parica molt ro'coutronl any
undue and improper application of money,- ought
to advise a grant of money to one of his own col-
leagues,. for (lie. sake of relieving hits from hi t
father's 'ilubt, for svhieli he liad made himself
respowsihie, lle rohtended that this .reword
mit granted by the Company at a time when
they were nimble to pay th stint stipuiaced for to
the hue. 'f' Itteoinm end in ipa had gun nat ed
in a ptiv;de conversiition betwq,cii the 'President
of the Board of Ciintroul and the Chaillliail of
the,Couyt of Directors. %Vheit .the letter was'
eo ,mmicated to Court of Directors, they
ed the setts', in which they viewed it, by
passing to the order of the day. 'The matter
e proprietors, tiled yet coin-
ingvvith a Jecommv, dation of the ondue
of the 'Crown, the Ties! was only. carried by
a maloirity 0f.175, and 2O proprietors voted
against it. -
K F.ENV. opposed the Inotioil,
Ile (gassed wino ptlnegytie un the services of
the'lat'e Lord Melville.

Lord A: I.l.ktuti.-rom contended th it the grant
,was not much i be. merits of the late Lord
Melville, .as irz favour of the peesent.
Lord CASTLEREAGH Wild, this [louse were not
the prorwi judges of the merits of the grant, but
the East India Company the question :had been
decided by those whose property was involved. in
it. " The opinion of the lion. Proprietor (.Tr.
Whitsheel Keene), who had one of,the largest in-
terests in the Company, weig!,ed• more with hi'm
than the opinion, )f the Luble Lord who spoke
last. lie denied that the participation of 'the
public in the revenues of the 4ompany was de-
-4*-coultl see no in-
fraction by their paupe,rism.
fraction of either the letter. or Spirit of the law in
the present case. ,The expression of opinion of
the one body to the other was not only consistent
with the taw, hut indispensable to the due admi-
nistration of the' East inttia Company's affairs.--
As to undue inlinence, the charge answered itself.
'l' ,e reconinitWdation was not cduntenanced hy.the
Court or Directors, and the question was brought
to issue by the independent net of certain pro,
prietors„ totally independent of the Board of Con-
Rota. He thought that the grant was highly ho.
nnitrable to the Company, and that it was as little
Open to any aspersion %vitt', respect ,to purity Of
motive as any measure on record.
Sir :TonN NEWPORT and Lord CASTLEREAGH
mutually explained.
i\ir. HowAttrit supported the motion of Lord
eontemling that it was wholly ont of the
'province:J:4)lle Presidetic of „the Board- of Cot:-
trout to ransack the papers of the late Lord Mel-
Ville, in order to foeuud a supposed claim 00 the
E.„, India Company.
Mr. I‘raLLACC explained.
Mr. MAIIHYAT oposed the motion.
Mr. Pti:"EsoistßY disapproved of the conduct of
the Earl of Buckinghamshire in this transaction.
lie that if any remuneration were due to
the late LOrd McLville fkir hi,: services, it did not
belong to the, President of the Board of Coutrottl
to originate the gron, but to the Conn of Pro-
priettus, who had been benefited. it Wai a VW-
litho!), it not of the-Words, certainly of the spirit
of Act, and was to be_deemed a grant; not sli
much made in 'gratitude to s he late,- a 3 in propi-
tiation of the present Limit Melville, It - was ar-
gued that the letter at the Noble Earl was not a
demand, but only a reeinnmendation ; hitt it re-
minded lout of the story in the beginning of Gil

•
The hero is anti' on One Mel Irdi
hilt, ar“; At the same.titne beers ra cry of Ch .-
rity in the nartit tiod."• Looking. e,i.lence Lie
voiCe proceeded, he 'savv.• a musket prcstmtrd t '-
wards lillll, the 'perioll holding it vociteratiw4
" Charity in the name of God:-" Lail !Has thought
it Nutter! to itt:op sou'rel money into the hat exl
tolled from him in the nashe of Charity. So it
was with Om letter of Lord Buckinrgiranishirei
vi:hich, in appearance-, was only a recommenda-
tion, but lii truth mislit be construed into a'de-
mand. _

Mr.:;. 13,tT►avttsT defodea tl►e grant.
On a divhdori, the numbers ‘vere—
, Against the motion et;

Fur it
Niajoi icy against. it =s6
The Lottery Bill was brought up, and tearl
first time-2d tune to-morrow. The other Order=
were disposed 9f nod the House adjourne:l.

A SUPPOSED SPY.

On the Exe, May 90th, 1815.

Mr. EDITOR,—A report
.has been circulated,
that a person calling himself Palm, ‘vho resided
in the village of Lympstone; near Exmouth, for
tome months, apparently for the purpose at learn.
ing the English language, has been lately shot.;
and that he bad 'been a'Secretary of that arch-
fiend rind detestable Monster, BLIONArAIITPI, and
was a Spy ;—with what truth, the writer of this
knoweth not. If you, Mr. Editor, will give this
note a place in your next most excellent, most
loyal, and constitutional Paper, some elucidation
may be communicated from your Readers.
In the mean time, I am, with clue considera-
tion, with yonrell, an ardent lover of my country.
(Western Luminary.)
VIRNUIA RIPARUM.