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and the House of Commons who supported them, I
admitted that the Church-rate law was a bad
law. When Lord STANLEY proposed to re-
lieve the Irish from the Vestry-cess, equi-
valent to our Church-rates, he denounced it
as a perpetual blister. Every one admits that
the Church-rates are a source of strife in almost
every parish. The best friends of the Church
have said they inflict a heavy blow on the Esta-
blishment. According, however, to the Tory
Journals, to Sir ROBERT PEEL, and to Lord JOHN
RUSSELL, it is the duty of all men to submit to
this mischievous law. Common sense repudiates
the conclusion, to which nothing gives the least
'countenance but the misplaced conviction of the
lawgivers, the result of their overweening vanity,
that society is held together by their enactments,
however unwise and unjust.
Now that the question of obedience has been
mooted by statesmen, they cannot expect that it
will not be discussed by the people. They are
no longer allowed to have all reasoning to them-
selves. The game which they start will be
hunted down by others. The doctrines put forth
in the House of Commons will not fall on barren
ground when they reach the minds of the Dissen-
ters. We are much mistaken in that class of men
if they do not, one and all, prefer obedience to
their conscience to obedience to law. Amongst
them are to be found some of the most upright
and most sturdy of our citizens. Mr. BAINES
has been followed to his gaol by thousands, and
hundreds and thousands in every part of the
country will probably feel it their duty to follow
his example. When they reflect that the law
has no power but what men give it—that if they
did not enforce it, the Church party would have
neither the means nor the will to enforce it—

they will feel it to be their duty to declare that
they will not enforce and will not obey a law
which takes money out of their pockets against
their will, for the support of a form of worship
which they consider false, idolatrous, and lead-
ing to immorality. If this be correct, the Mem-
bers of the House of Commons who have refused to
agree to the resolution proposed by Mr. EAST-
HOPE, will find that they have brought into ques-
tion and peril interests which they value far
above the Church and Church-rates.

Madrid papers to the 11th inst., have reached
us this morning, with an allocation of the POPE
complaining of the conduct of the Spanish Go-
vernment towards the Clergy, and protesting
against the conversion of Church property to
secular purposes. We have not room to-day for
this document, but we shall give the spirit of it
on Monday. The Regency question continued
to excite general interest.

The act of amnekty had restored, on the 28th
of February, 11,900 Carlists to their country.
The Eco del Comercio publishes the proposals made to the
Government by the banking-house of Mathen and Co., which
has offered it an advance of ninety millions of reals in cash,
forty-two of si hich will be applicable to the payment of the
Treasury Bonds, and the remaining forty-eight millions will be
assigned in payment of the expired interest of the capitalisation
of the Three per Cents., both of the home and foreign debt.
According to this proposal, the Government will receive thirty-
sifmillions of reals in the first eight months of this year;
thirty in the second, and eight in each of the three other years.
In order to reimburse this advance, the Government will re-
mit to the above firm, and at the tune of thirty millions of bills
of exchange drawn on the Customs of the Penin-
sula, and adjacent islands, on the tobacco revenue,
and on the receipts of the octroi duties at the gates
of towns, payable in thirty months, at the rate of a million
a month. It will reimburse the remaining sixty millio”s
by giving up all the produce of the public revenues to the said
House, which will take charge of the collection thereof for five
years, to commence from the Ist of May of the present year to
the Ist of May, 1846, until the sum of sixty millions has been
attained. This proposition (which may be offered by public
contract for a fortnight) is fixed in the first instance at six
days, and in case it is admitted by the Government, it will be
guaranteed by four respectable houses of this capital, offering
every satisfactory reference and security to the Government.
The Five per Cents. closed on the 10th at 281
for cash, and at 28/ at 60 days.

The whole of the Paris Journals of Thursday
have been received. They contain no domestic
news of any interest, except the subjoined sum-
mary of the debate in the Chambers on the Sup-
plementary Credits Bill.

CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES.
SITTING OF MARCH 18.
The order of the day was the discussion upon the project of
law relative to the Supplementary credits for 1840.:
M. Pelletier d'Aulnay commenced the general discussion,
and expressed himself in strong terms of disapprobation at the
enormous budget of extraordinary credits which the Cabinet
of the Ist of March had inflicted upon the country, and Is hich
was the heaviest imposed upon their shoulders since the resto-
, ration. The Honourable Deputy inveighed specially against
the Thiers administration, for raising new regiments and in-
creasing armaments without an absolute necessity, such mea-
sures 1 eing unconstitutional, and tending to compromise the
Chambers by sanctioning an extravagant and useless outlay of
the public money. The Hon. Deputy, in conclusion, called
on the Chamber to use its exertions to repair the evil by the-
strictest system of economy.
M. 'lhiers said he had no intention to assert that the Go-
vernment had the right of usurping the power of the Chambers,
but there were circumstances in which a Cabinet was called on
to act with promptness and vigour, and anticipate the acts of
the legislative body when Parliament was not sitting. The
Hon. Deputy errered into a variety of details in defence of the
policy of the Cabinet of the Ist of March, declaring that their
sole object was to place the country in a proper state of defence
at a moment when war seemed imminent and the safety of
France in danger. He had only one duty to perform, and he
had done it. 'laming towards the Centre, M. fhiers observed,
with respect to the increase of armaments, " You may rest as-
sured that you will be obliged to arm, if you intend—l do not
say to retain—but to resume your position as a great nation."—
( Prolonged sensation. )
This speech of M. Thiers was heard with great impatience
by the Chamber..
N. Auguis followed M. Thiers, and contended that the ob-
jections of M. Lepelletier d'Aulnay had not been met. If M.
Ihiers's system was to prevail, ordonnances for the expenses
would supersede the legislative vote. He considered that the
conduct of the Ist of March Cabinet justified an impeachment.
To this M. Thiers exclaimed, " Very well; impeach us !"
M. Etienne, jun., was the next orator. He complained
that the estimates were always exceeded. The budget of 1840,
fixed at 1,125 millions, will amount to 1,447 millions, one of
the heaviest ever imposed on the country. The outlay ought
to have been avoided by some foresight, and then the Chambe
would have escaped the disgrace of seeing its most essential
prerogative violated. M. Etienne having complained of the
state of the navy, M. Tnpinier remarked that in the Admiralty
department, of which he was a member, no irregularity had
been committed. Some deficiencies existed formerly in the
arsenals, but they had been rectified. The general discussion
was then closed, and the Chamber was still discussing the
articles.
His Royal Highness the Duke d'Aumale passed through
Lyons on the 14th, on his way to Africa, where he will take
part in the approaching campaign against Abd-el-Kader.
The Colonial Committee had yesterday a long sitting at the
office of the Marine Department. It seems certain that a
project of law on the direct representation of the colonies in the
Chamber of Deputies will be immediately presented in the
Committee. Three Members protested against this measure.

(French OPPriEvaNtelNCoGrreOspoF
ERNE, MARCH 15.—The Extraordinary Session of the
nTdil-enEce SWISS
CoDnlsEtiTtu. tionnel.)
Helvetic Diet was opened this morning by a speech of the
Avoyer, M. Neuhaus. This speech was in the French lan-
guage, a thing which has never occurred since the Act of
Mediation, that is to say for about thirty years. After
having stated the object of the meeting, which was
to examine into the remonstrances which have been made
by many of the Estates against the suppression of the convents
in the canton of Argovia, the Avoyer discussed the twelfth
article, on which these remonstranbes are founded, by pointing
out the importance of the discussion on which they were about
to enter.—Le Constitutionnel.
The Cologne Gazette, under the head of Vienna, on the
9th inst., states that negotiations f,r the pacification of the
Spanish peninsula were about to be c unmenced, and that one
of the Northern Powers had recommended that Queen Isa-
bella should be acknowledged, as the only means of preventing
greater evils. The French Government (adds the Gazette),
never ceased to recommend this step whenever and application
was made relative to a passport for Don Carlos.
A letter from Athens states that 1,640,000 f, had been sent
through Messrs. Rothschild to pay the half-year's interest on
the loans guaranteed by the Powers. The French journals
approve of the appointment of Mavrocordato to be Minister,
however attached to English ideas and interests that states-
man may be.

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NORTHERN DISCOVERY.—We have received
intelligence that a splendid river has been discovered be_
tween the Clarence River and Moreton Bay. Our corre-
spondent states that it has thirty feet water on the bar,
and has been visited by a Mr. Scott, who states that
ho traced it up for more than thirty miles, and be._
Neves there is more cedar upon it than all the rivers
hitherto discovered, and describes the country as most
beautiful... Sydney Herald, Aug. 21.

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 20, 1841

SUDBURY ELECTION COM.
MITTEE.-(THIS DAY.)

The Committee appointed to try the merits of the petition
against the return of Mr. Tomline, for the Borough of Sudbury,
met this morning at eleven o'clock. Sir C. Lemon, Chairman.
' Mr. Sergeant Merewether and
.Mr. Leahy appeared for
the petitioners. Mr. Sergeant Wrangham and Mr. Austin,
for the electors, defending the seat.
Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM showed the short facts of the
case to be extremely simple, and when proved by witnesses,
upon every principle of justice and the practice of every elec-
tion, the election for Sudbury must be declared void. The
election took place on the sth June, and was appointed to
commence at ten o'clock in the morning. Previous to that
day the borough had been canvassed by Mr. Tomline, who
stood in the situation of a candidate. Another individual
named Acland had come to the borough, had issued the
usual placards, and also stood before the electors
in the situation of a second candidate. 'I he hall in Sudbury,
as was usual in the country, was a long room, at one end of
which was a bench used by the magistrates, with an elevated
seat for the Mayor. At ten o'clock the Mayor took that seat
with Mr. Acland and his friends on one side, and Mr.
Tomline and his friends on the other. After the usual
preliminaries, Mr. Tomline was duly nominated and
seconded. There was then a short pause. He believed
that, in point of fact, Mr. Acland was disinclined to stand in
the way of any one who was connected with the borough, and
could better represent its interests—that being the case, there
was a slight pause. The Mayor then said if no one else was
nominated, he would proceed to declare Mr. Tomline duty elected.
Upon this Mr. Acland said " Oh, Sir, don't be so rapid, give
them a little time." He did not mean for one moment to
impute any improper motive to the Mayor. It might have
arisen from error, or some mistake as to the circumstances,
but he then said one of the most extraordinary things ever before
said of a returning officer. He said .‘ Yes ; I will give them
time ; I will wait a minute, and if no one is declared I will de.
dare Air. Tomline." This struck the electors with surprise, but
one in the body of the meeting cried out " Mr. Bagshaw." Now
Mr. Bagshaw was well known, having formerly sat for the bo-
rough. Every one called out his name, so that no one could
be heard for a short time. The moment any one could be
heard the two petitioners, one of whom was an Alderman of
the borough, nominated and seconded Mr. Bagshaw.
Even 'when they did so it was a question whether the mi-
nute had expired or not ; some said it had not, but the Mayor
said it had, and declared Mr. Tomline duly elected— of course
he was remonstrated with, but he said the minute had expired,
and acting impartially he must declare Mr. Tomline, the
Member. His conduct was protested against, as well it might
be, for the whole matter did not occupy half an hour. These
were the facts, which he would have no difficulty in proving.
He had five or six witnesses in attendance, who would put them
beyond all doubt, and then he felt that the Committee must
find it their duty to declare the election void. He admitted that
a returning-officer would act improperly if he waited longer than
was necessary for the nomination of a candidate, but who in the
world would say that one minute was too long, or even long
enough, and too much haste was equally to be reprobated as
too much waste of time. One could hardly get himself up
from his seat and settle himself for a speech in a minute ;even
George Robins could scarcely get out his one, two, three, in
that space of time, and the proceedings of an auctioneer were
the most peremptory. There could be no doubt but that
Mr. Bagshaw was proposed before the election had been
declared. There was not one case in point, therefore he had no
erecedent to cite ; but in one case, it had been contended that
a candidate was in time up even to the return, but there were
many cases where it had been laid down that he certainly was
up to the time of the declaration, and that was enough for
him. The Learned Gentleman then cited many cases—
amongst others the Bristol one. There there were three
candidates. The poll commenced on Friday one re-
signed on Saturday, and the other two contended
that they ought to have been returned on Saturday night, but
Mr. Burke bad been proposed during the progress of the poll.
He obtained more votes than one of the other candidates.
fhe case was inquired into by a Committee, and Mr. Burke
kept his seat. That was a strong case in his favour. The
Learned Gentleman, after citing numerous other cases, called
Mr. JACKSON, the clerk of the Crown, who produced the re-
turn of Mr. Tomline.

Colonel F. ADDISON, a Magistrate of Suffolk, was present
at the election for Sudbury. He went to the Hall before any
proceedings had taken place. After the usual pi eliminaries.
.11r. Tomline was proposed and seconded. There was then a
pause of about a quarter of a minute. The Mayor asked if
any one had any candidate to propose. There was another
slight pause, when the Mayor said he would give a
a minute, and then declare Mr. Tomline duly elected, if no
me else was nominated. Mr. Tomline immediately took out
his watch. There was instantly a cry thrcr,ghout the hall of
Bagshaw, Bagshaw, we will have him." Mr. Alderman
Parr then got up and said, " Seeing the feeling that exists, I
propose John Bagshaw, Esq., as a fit and proper penon to re-
present the borough." Mr. Saxby seconded the nomination.
After much hesitation on the part of the Mayor, he said he
would act impartially, and as the minute had expired, he de-
clared Mr. Tomline duly elected.
CroFs-examined— He was a voter of the borough, and had
proposed the Whig candidate on several occasions. He bad
proposed Mr. Bagshaw before, but did not go to the Hall to do
,o then. He had not issued any address to the electors. He
had told Mr. Bagshaw's friends that he was not coming down,
but he would be very glad to see him elected. He expected
that Mr. Acland would be the candidate. The leaders of the
Whig party had determined not to offer any opposition to Mr.
Tomlitie's election. They left it to the lower orders to make
a demonstration if they pleased.
(The examination was proceeding when we went to press.)