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on. El thenH, , oweTer, that there were some
gravy objections to the measure. The position of the
13i!..h0p required that his funds should be erred
?
and fully t gnat ,t, that which they at present receive
It was not a seat in the House which required the ne-
cessity of those funds. It had been said that seats in
this House gave the Bishops a great deal of power ; be
did not believe that such was the case. On the contrarp
he thon;.:ht that seats in that House tended to a dint.
Lution cf the ,pritual authority of their Lordships.
wished their Lordships to pass the Bill with :be geates!
possible unanimity, but at the same time widt 01111
minor amendments which seemed to him necessary;
one great fundamental oifficulty met with in the Bill was
the limiting of the new Bishops to four, because if theylimited the number of spiritual teachers, they woulby
limit the spiritual instruction of the people. He th°l)gha
that the exten•ion of the see should be a matter

dealt with on a future occasion.
Alter a few words from the Bishop of Biala°P la
favour of the B 11, and expressive of his thanks to the
Government for its introductitat, and trom Earl Pegs+
the purport of whose ob-ervations could net be she
heard to
the gallery (he Has nuclei stout!, however, to support
BillT h ),
e Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, as none of the
Noble Lords who had addressed the House had be
pressed th or intention to oppose the Bill, it would t
nec-ssary for him to detain their Lordships with "' fent
observations. lie did not teel satisfied at Pres"..
to rest only with a Bishopric Of Manahestenr;
because he thought that they must carry their reform
further, and increase the number to four. The funds Id
which the three additional bishops would be thesustained
were accruing, and when he looked at the extent of i
population, at its rapid increase, considereds increese". _
spiritual wants, he confessed that he three,
a itlitional bishops absolutely ecessary, and as soon ad
the funds now accruing werepnrovidea', lb°
he appointed. Her Majest 's- Government believed that
they were faithfully di charging their duty in bringing
proposed would he
ferward this Bill. The amendmgents
„on d antlf,
printed and placed in the hands of their Lordships, u
three would
wh• n they carne under their attention, he —fi ell
of
trusted that they might be favoured with the P
the Right Rev. Prelate at the head of the Church, Whose
presence en all occasions was ratifying.
The Bill was then read a secondg time, and ordered to
be reported vernerrow.
RAILWAY RESOLUTIONS BILL 14
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented the r.el"3„.
sesence _
of the Select Committee appointed to report relative
the suspension of the Railway Bills of this sesstost tad
moved that it he considered.' net
Lord KINNAIRD considered that the Bill would 0
prevent the evils it was intended to obviate; fo__irrtailfle
it said that interest was not to be paid urn-Ts:l b°lls
thought that these resolutions had been passed
--t
~,,
due consideration. led 'I
Lord REI)ESDALE said that hewelt OPI3°-;d Tea
those reso:utions on many accounts. He o'ls.„-,ee of
themc especially objectionable, as binding the via-tile to
orntnons to a course which they were utterlf unable
carryß out. They gave the Railway Comp din's
. this
Bills I.),fore Parliament, the option of su-Peildintg in this
session, and resuming the same Bill in the hei," goo
tit, wasi notorious that the very constitution of that
-n.'ered any arrangement of this nature futile,
bindingbecause
no arrangement entered into by
in the next Parliamento . the re'
After a few wrds from Lord GRENVILLE, d their
solutions,amendments, with amendments, were agreed to,
L an
ordships adjourued soon after Eight o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 10.
SIIRAPNELL SHELLS. f the
Sir DE LACY F,VANS moved for a return °toed
number of Shrapnell shells ordered to be matit,tifsateinclia
at the Carron Founder y for the British and
Company's armies, since the period of the shell ,4 the
been adopted by the Government for the use "
national forces.—Agreed to.
BIiiDCAGE-ALK. DOW
Sir DE LACY EVANS asked the Chief to
sinner of Woods and Forests whether anything --
be done in regard to paving Birdcage-wtak? laid
Lord MORPETH said that materials were being
down for the purpose.
L.
Mr. B. OSBORNE said he had seen it rePor","" roof
the Conde Das Antas, with two thousand of his 0.4 ed•
had been taken prisoners by the British fh.et; he uer`6o.
there:ore, to ask the Noble Lord at the head of th.tsh re
vernment whether he had received any paper 3 wl'ooati
.erence to that, and whether he would lay them
the table?
Lord J. RUSSELL said he had received no psPe rted
the subj, et. He had seen a Lel h.c atch 01)1,02. •
in the Ifloniteur, where no do-gtratrielllon.PMeMber
self had seen it.
Mr. P. BORTHWICK begged to ask the
Member for Montrose he intended abidiettya
his motion on the Portugal papers, and whether he W
take he discussion to. morrow? #dis
Mr. HUME said he was quite ready to take tbe
cushion to morrow. tatil
Lord G. BENTINCK wished to BA the Noble
whether the iestruc..ions of the Government%fee
such a character that it was possible for her hlWegstie
naval force to have acted thus against the trooPs
Junta, by taking the Cunde Das Antas and his
*"
prisoners ? tle
Lord JoIIN RUSSELL said it was quite pose
fur for Sir William Palmer had ordered the blockade °Ziolt
Douro. and in case the Conde Das Attract should ufnat
!II upon these orders, it was very possible 00
might be the eons. qte nce. ht efe
Air. HUME said he wished to know whether
w, re all the instructions that had been sent out. ,Orr
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the dispatches
wined all the diplomatic correspondence.
SMALL DEBTS (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. M. MILNES asked the Solicitor-General fer:„ltta
land whe'sher he inteniit.d introducing a Bill to teiti_le, ja
the present practice of imprisoning fur small debt'
Ireland? a the
The SOLICITOR GENERAL for Ireland said a.
subject was under consideration, and he was in
thjf
of tieing able to introduce a Bill this session 00
subji-et. RB CO'
TREATMENT OF A CONVICT IN BE— he
Mr. G. BERKELY said that he wished to call, tie,
attention of his Hon. Friend the Secretary for the iiist'ea
ides to a eircum,tance connected with a convict
Pauco. It was stated that he was deSirOlia of
priest
the rite of baptism, which a Roman Catholic prte
vs,
_.Qi`s
prepared to administer, but which the authorities
not permit him to do. and Gsllsnt
Mr. HAWES said, that when his 11-- eon
utor
Friend brought this subject before the lis
mer occasion, he stated that. he would int:t'usk'te li qen,atilrdieist
on the subect. Those inquiries had been pleaßonoe
appeared that the convict was attended h):
but I'.
Catholic Priest on the morning of his executtl,
only twenty
he wanted to administer the rite of baptism
minutes before the execution, the authorities woui
sanction it.
POOR-LAW ADMINISTRATION BILL' ~000
The order of the day for goine into Committee '•,,ha
the Poor-law Administration Bill was then read for '""

purpose of postponing it. at'
The further consideration of the Bill was then P-
poned until Monday next.
PRICE OF BREAD.
Sir. DE LACY EVANS said that, in answ_er.rbert:
question asked the other evening
nfe.
as to whether there was any intention the part -he
by an Hon. Mew the
price and weight of bread in consequence Government to bring in any on„9
bread not rising gasuuernecetoofrethgeaips;icetio:
and falling with the rice of whet. if
begged to state that the price of bread had tiliP"l33'
kept pace with the price of wheat in all its fluctuatioo
.°OO
e hoped that alarms of this nature would not be gi
unnecessarily.
who be
Mr. BANKES said that he was amenable for w-
sTahide, but not for the way in which it might be reP.°„ tbe
speech he made was reported very correctly Clo
public papers, but he could not be answerable f°rope•
alarm it might create. He then held in his hard 001
tition from a magistrate in the country, stil4%tise°
there was a considerable amount of fraud daily P der
ce
upon the poor man in the price of bread. o- ;be
prove that, he would state that a short time ni% Dor
price of bread in Paris was cheaper than it vvaLiber 111,
don at the tine when the corn in France was 7, iber:
price than in England. He thought that thcu.go Wet.
might not be any complaints of these frauds 1 ~racti‘"
v
ininster, yet in other parts of the kingdom tbe r_itot,„
pr"
of the delivering fraudulent weight was
very
Mr. EIEATHCOTE said that the price aebre4ad
ice°
, the Pr al
London might be cheaper, in relation 1•43 D of the
Ty
corn, than it was in Paris, in conseqU,enteh'e-be.tottr. 17;
mode of carriage upon the Thames
chinery and the cheaper price of fuel for 14,1414 priee
could not, however, understand the reason 01 t ;
rtCB
of bread varying from 7Ad. to 114 d. in differelipoittes
of the metropolis, and he tp.ped that a C°
would be appointed to inquire into this subject. ible
Mr. B. ESCOTT said that it was not pasha pr°.
purchase good coarse bread in Lyndon ; htit,"-foro3ll.
duce of the bushel of wheat was wasted upon we
lion of white bread.
PRISONS .
On the motion that the order ofBILL the
journed debate upon going into Committee tie
Prisons Bill be read, bs°
;
Mr. NEWDEGATE said that he should - • n°
had it •
troubled the House at all upon this occasion bad
eater'
been for the strong feeling which he knew wilsbotitioll
tamed throughout the country, that do .fortune'
of transportation would be a great hi's stew
The evils I h• h arisen old system
day for th: 1100
wnc had from the to
of transportation were attributable not hich
punishment itsel, but to the way in ‘ 013;
was administered.f The failure of the system 01Pd te,
ment in Norfolk Island and Van Diemen 's Lailweaq
throughout been attributable to the inadequate-rotes°
which had been given for carrying it into effect- ins°
of any attempt being made to correct the err 7, their
which the late Government tell on this subje°o"piail
were pursuin a similar course. It was 851 °
among the public lic in this country that the abo ,v
bf
transportation would be injurious to this eot.
doing away IA ith a means of rid ling this country worst
superabundant population by sending out of it its
„st. this
. ..10 e to
members. 'They were adopting the prinew, were ,
measure upon most erroneous grounds, and A othe'
substitute for transportation the silent an yeans
experimental systems which had been by nets foto
successful. The Hon. Member here read ex rat
several letters, to show that the system of L°T that
had failed, not through any intrinsic dereeritsir° iors:
so ...von
system, but from its being jumbled up with
sae.
regulations, and it was from that most unfair IP-
that the Government proposed the present plea rola
was alleged by Lord Grey that the ground of was
any
transportation to the Australian colonies, vg ,oess
local detects, but from a conviction of the soun"Geotle
the total abolition of transportation. The Hon' adser:
man here read some letters to show the peculiarrr
lion of the Australian colonies for purposes •