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certainly should lament it exceedingly .but he had a duty to
perform, and must endeavour to execute• it to the best of his
judgment and ability. He had attended for the purpose of
reporting the whole. of The proceedings, and he felt himself
bound to do
Mr. NOEL said, that the Magistrates had prohibited the
publication of " the confession," antlehaßeporter, if he per-
ststed in his determination, Would be acting " in contempt of;
the Court of King's Bench." It had been decided long ago:-
and over and over again, that Magistrates had the power to
order a Reporter to quit the place in which the examination
was held, and if he suffered one to remain, he had the power to
prohibit the publication of any part of the proceediugs if he
chose.
The Reporter was about to offer a remark, when Mr. NOEL
said the Magistrate would do right in preventing him (the re-
porter) from leaving the room with the notes which he had been
taking of the proceedings.
Mr. Clutterbuck said he would cut the • matter very short.
The Magistrates had thought fit to prohibit the publication of
this " confeseion," and it should not be published. He re-
quired the Reporter to give up his note book before he quitted
the room.
The Reporter said that a compliance with such an order was
perfectly out of the question.
Mr. Clutterbuck.—Then I shall order a constable to take it
from you.
The Reporter said he should not give it up, and Mr. Clutter-
buck looked towards a constable, and held up his hand, of
course intending to put his threat into execution. The Re-
porter not choosing to undergo a search by a police-officer, took
his note-book from his pocket, and placing it on the table, beg-
ged it to be distinctly understood, that in giving it up he did so
under coercion, and that he yielded only to what he must deem
to be absolnte force.
The note-book was then sealed, anti when the proceedings of
the day had terminated, it was sent to a Newspaper office in
London.
Mr. Noel stated subsequently, that the publication of " the
confession" at present, would obstruct the due Bourse of justice,
and preVent important discoveries; and upon that assurance,
we abstain from publishing it.
Post-chaises having beemaoroCured, Ruthven and Upion took
Hunt to a place which he had described, situate in the parish of
Elstree, about seven miles frain Watford, and there a pond,
which he pointed out, was dragged, and in a few minutes the
dead body of a man was found. The legs were quite risked,
and were tied together with some new cord, and the upper part
of the body was concealed in a sack, tied on. Affixed to the
sack was a handkerchief containing stones. The body Was
conveyed precisely in this state to the Artichoke, a public house,
a short distance from the pond, where it will remain for the
Coroner's Inquest. Mr. Noel ordered that the sack should not
be removed, so that no positive identification of the body took
place.
[MORE PARTICULARS RECEIVED LAST NIGHT.]
• On the road between Radlet and Elstree, near the pond in
which the body of Mr. Weare was found, there are two other
ponds or pits tilled with water a short distance from each other.
—The approver, Joseph Hunt, when he left Watford with the
officere, directed the chaise emmediately. to the spot where
the body was found. He assisted in drawmg it out, and when
it was brought out upon the bank he looked at it without be-
traying the least emotion.- He joked with some by.standers
Upon indifferent Subjects. After the examination had conclud-
ed on Thursday morning, Thurtell was placed in a small
room, and attended by two constables. He was strongly Ironed,
and very narrowly watched throughout the day. Ms bear.
ing on Wednesday night was exceedingly bold, and there was
a great degree of levity in his manner ; but after the examination
he became exceedingly dejected, and sent for Ruthven, with
whom he continued in conversation for a long time, in the course
of which he accused Hunt of having committed the murder, but
admitted that he himself was concerned in it. In the afternoon
the Magistrates issued an order for the conveyanee.of Thurtell
to the county gaol at Hertford, and he was taken there in a
chaise by two constables of Watfoid, well armed. On his ar- •
rival, he was placed in a cell by himself, and was watched
during the night. Hunt remained in custody at Watfotd.
Bunt was called in in the course of the night, and un-
derwent a long interrogation. The following is the substance
of his examination n—he said he was a dealer and professional
singer. He knew Mr. Probart extremely well, but never was
at his cottage in Hertfordshire until Friday evening last. He
received an -invitation on that day from Probart, to dine with
him and. John Thurtell, at the Coach and Horses in Con.
eluit.street. After dinner Probart said to him (Hunt,)—
" Hunt, I have often spoken to my wife of your singing, and
I should like for you to go down with me for a day or two
to my cottage." In consequence of that invitation, he agreed
to accompany Mr. Probart out of town, and they went away
together in the evening in a gig. In Oxford-street be (Hunt)
purchased a loin of pork, which was to be cooked for supper.
.They stopped at 'avers). houseti on the toad, and drank
bread), and wool+ ; and when they arrived at Prot:tit:Oa cottage,
they drove into the .yard, and found- John Thurtell end a lad
in the stable. Probart went into-the Stable, telling him (Hunt)
to take the pork into the kitehen,antt get it Cooked,. He was quite
sure he went into the kitchen; and got the pork cut into chope.
In five minutes Probart and Thurtell followed, and they went
into the parlou r,where they fotand.Mre, Probart and Miss Noyes
her sister. John Thurtell started itcakig from Conduit-street,
about a quarter of an hour before Probed and him (Hunt.) No
retetan WAS given for their not starting together. lie supposed
they sat up about two hours after supper, singing several
songs. They then all went to their repose. He did not go to bed,
but slept on a sofa. He believed John Thurtell did not go to
bed either, but remained in the room with him, It might have
been about ten o'clock when they arrived at Probart's cottage.
There was nothing said about disappointment at the absence
of a guest, who was expected. There was no one waiting
in Gill's Hill-lane for him and Probart when they arrived.—
John Thurtell lay down on chairs. The supper party con-
sisted of wee (Hunt), John Thurtell, Mr. and Mrs. Probart,
and Miss Noyes, Thomas Thurtell was not there at all
on Friday night. lie (Hunt) got up at seven o'clock on
Saturday morning. He never went out on Friday evening
after he arrived at Probart's. Not one of the party went
out during the evening. There were no boots or shoes brush-
ed on Saturday morning. Ile was quite certain lie never
used a sponge for any thing on Saturday morning. John
Thurtell had a large blue coat Ott that night, and Probart had
a drab. He (Hunt) went out at 7 o'clock on Saturday morning
with Probart. They went through a field, and broke into a
lane. They went over a hedge into the lane. Did not meet a
solitary soul" in their walk. John Thurtell was with them.
They never separated in their walk. He never heard of any
accident to either of the Thurtell's. Did hear John Thurtell
say he bud scratched his hands gettiag through some briers.
Ile
„showed him his hands after breakfast, and made that
reuietek.
John Thurtell was then called in and examined. His account
of the transactions of the evening differed very materially front
that given by Hone He said he had no appointment with a
gentleman to go down with him on that night. 'rook no gen-
tleman up on the read. Never told any one he could take him for
a day's shooting. He walked with Probart and Hunt on Satur-
day morning in the lane for about ten minutes. They had all
three black hats on. Ills clothes and boots were nut so ditty tes
to require a great deal of brushing on Saturday morning. The
scratches on hie hands were caused partly by come brambles
while he was shooting;, anti partly by the bite of a dog. He
nevereeid any thing to Mr. limn or to any one else about his
hands being scratched.
The following is the confession of Bunt:--" One night
that I was at ReX.FOrthy'a billiard-roonen Thurtell told
the he wished to see 'a Mr. Weare; on entering the house
we saw Mr. Wcare sitting there. After some conversa-
tion between Rexworthy and Thurtell, the latter called Mr.
Weare out of the room, and they were absent for about twenty
rninutee; Thurtell and-Mr. Weare returned, and I and neut.-
tell went away. Thurtell told me that Mr. Weare had behaved
extremely ill to him ; for he, with another man of the name
of Lemon, had won 3110/. of hint (Thurtell) at blind-lookey.
hPn tie discovered that lie had been robbed of his motley
by Use cards, he challenged Mr. Weate with foul play, and
‘Veare's reply was--' You dare not say a word about it, for
you know you have defrauded your creditors of that mo-
ney.' John Thurtell then observed to me, that sooner or
later he would be revenged. At one time in particular he
(John Thurtell) was in difficulty, and applied to 51r. Wean.,
for the loan of 5/., and Mr. NVeare's reply was—' Go and rob
for it, as I do.' 04 Thursday night, which was the night
before the murder took place, John Thurtell asked ins
to
call on him on Friday morning,- which I did. Saidl Hunt,
ppe
I wish you would take a walk with ma' We walked together
its far as High-street, Marylehone. When we got into High-
street, we slod at a pawnbroker' shop. After looking
et acnnejewellery which wits in the window, John Thurtell ob.
e
served teat those pistols (here the examinant looked at and
pointed to do. pair already mentioned, which were on the table,)
marked
11111,' believe, were just the things he wanted to shoot
Ceti with. They wereirearked, 1/. 17s. ild. and he gave 11. 53. for
them. We then returned to Mn. Tatsell'a, the Coach and horses,
in Conduit-street, and dined. After dinner, John Thurtell
asked me to get him a house and chaise immediately, as
gave me 1/. 10s.
he had to meet a gentleman who was going into the coma.
try with him, on a shooting excureion. Ile
to get the horse and chaise, for which I peid Its. As soon a 3
the horse acid chaise came to the door, Thurtell told Mr. Pro.
bart, who was pr.lent, that in consemtence of warrants being
issued against hint and his brother for a conspiracy to delletud
the County fire-office of 1,900 e, he should go to Ms (Mr.
Plobert'e) cottage, for safety. Mr. Probate said, "hicottage, it'
that's the ease, vial may tie well wait, and we will go toge-
ther. Thurtell said, No, I can't stop, I have a gentleman to
meet at Cumberland-gate,' and lie immediately drove off.
I did not see hint put these pistol; int.) his pocket when

he started, but to the best of my knowledge they
were about his person. After three quarters of an
hour had elapsed, Mr. Probed, of Gin's- hill . cottage,
said, he did not want to travel by himself, . and would be
glad if I, would take a seat with him in his gig, and spend a
pleasant. evening or two. I accepted Mr. :Probart's offer.—
(Here tho examinant described several houseit at which he said
they stopped and drank.) We arrived, 'at Mr. Probate's cot-
tage, when John Thurtell came up and, said, I have settled
that h—, who robbed me of 3001. Trobart said, Who d' ye
mean ? What d' ye mean ?" Why,' said J. Thurtell,' I mean
to say, that I have blown his brains out, and he lays behind a
hedge in the Nonsense, nonsense,' said Prohart ;
' you have never been guilty of any thing of that kind, John
Thurtell ; if you have, and near my cottage, my character and
my family arc ruined for ever; but I can't believe that you
have been guilty of so rash an act. Here, Hunt (to exami-
nant), take in the loin of pork, and desire the cook to dress it
immediately.' I went into the kitchen, and waited until Pro-
bart came in, which, to the best of my knowledge, was after
a lapse of live minutes. Before we went into the parlour, I
said to Thurtell, You are jesting about killing a man to-
night ?'—' Ay, but I have,' was his reply, and no one else
but Weare, that robbed me of my 3001.' Mr. Probart said,
John, you have produced such an effect on me, that unless
we retire and get some refreshment, my senses will totally leave
me.' We then had a glass of brandy. I Here he deseribed
the supper which was served up, and said that Thurtell com-
plained of being sick, and could not eat.l After supper,
Thurtell called me and Mr. Probart out, and produced a very
handsome gold watch, with a gold face, saying, ' What do
you think of it now ?' This is something towards the 3001. I
was robbed of; and if you will go with me, I will 'thew
you where he lays stiff enough.' Mr. Probart and myself
both declined, observing, that he would not witness such a
sight for the world. Thurtell said—' You will not see him,
for he is in a sack.' I and Mr. Probart declined going near
the spot. About one o'clock in the morning Mr. Probart
called me out, saying, Do you think Thurtell has been guilty
of this murder.' My reply was--' lt looks very suspicious, his
having the gold watch; and in consequence of which, I would
rather decline going to bed, and, if it was agreeable to hint, I
would sit up in the parlour, with him, through the night.—
About'three o'clock in the morning, Turtell said—' Come, and
look at him : he is a b----y rogue, and 1 have bad my revenge.'
We both declined going near the spot. Thurtell said, If you
decline going to fetch him, I will go myself ;' and in about ten
minutes he left me and Mr. Probart, for the purpose, as we sup-
posed, to fetch the dead man, William Weare. While he was
gone, Mr. Probart said to me,' (good God, Hunt ! what shall
Ido if this account of Thurtell's is true ?' (Examinant de-
tailed some further conversation.) During the conversation,
Thurtell returned, saying, ' He is so heavy, I can't carry him ;
and if you won't assist me in moving him front behind the
hedge, I shall put a bridle upon my horse and throw hint across
his back,' and lie accordingly took out his horse with a bridle
on. Mr. Probart said he hoped he would not bring a dead man
near his premises ; What n--y stuff you talk,' said John
Thurtell : I shall bring him and chuck him into your fish-pond.
While he was gone with the horse, I and Probart went into
the parlour. Probart was much agitated, and as for myself
I had not a nerve but what was in a state of convulsion. As
near as I can recollect, about a quarter or half-past five
o'clock in the morning, Thurtell came into the parlour, and
said, I have thrown him into the fish-pond.' Then, by
God, said Probart, I insist upon your getting him imme-
diately off my premises.' Ms. Probart and myself went to
the fish, where we saw the feet of a man upwards in the
water. Thurtell fetched a line, which lie threw across the
feet, so as to sink them, at the same time saying, • Pro.
hart, don't you be alarmed, for I would not have you
get into trouble, knowing that you are a man that has a
family. Let hint remain here till night, and then I will get
him safe away.'—On Monday night Thomas Thurtell asked
me to go to Mr. Probart's, and inform him of the disappoint-
ment respecting the bail. John Thurtell said, 'lf you are
going down, I'll go with you, and take that man aw ay from
Probart's 'premises.' I said, "If you are going upon that
business, don't think I shall aid or assist you.' His reply, was,
I want no assistance;, can do it myself easy enough. When
we arrived at Probart's, Thurtell appeared greatly agitated.
When we had been there some time, Probart and Thur-
tell went out together, and in ten minutes returned by
himself. In half an hour,. Thurtell came in, and asked
us to put the horse in his gig, and take it round to the
gate. We did so, and Thurtell brought upon his shoulder
a corpse, a male corpse, one part in a sack, and the feet
hanging out. He asked Probart to lend him a hand to put
the corpse in the gig, but he refused. Ile then asked me'
but I declined. He then put the corpse in the chaise himself,
and tied the feet to the dashing iron. He then said there was
plenty of room for me in the gig besides him and the corpse.
I declined having any thing to do with It, and said I would
walk on, and lie might overtake me.. I walked on two mile*,
when Thurtell overtook me, and told me he had disposed of
the corpse in a small muddy marsh about four 'feet deep.
From thence we made the best of our way to town. And now,
gsententlyouemen, I believe you have it as clear as if you had been pre-
rselve."
Ituthven, on Thursday evening, when lie arrived in Londan,
went to Hunt's lodgings, and there he found a bag containing
a backgammon-board, wearing apparel, &c., and in the bed-
room he found a double-barrelled gun, all of which were the
property of the deceased, and were taken with him on the even-
ing on which he started with John Thurtell.
Yesterday the Coroner's Jury assembled at the Artichoke, at
Eletreee, and proceeded to view the body in a room up stairs.—
It presented a spectacle truly horrible. There was a wound on
the right cheek, evidently occasioned by a pistol-ball, which had
passed into the interior of the head. On the left temple was a
wound, or rather hole, which went nearly through the head.—.
It appeared to have been caused by some blunt instrument
being driven with great force Into the head. The aperture cor-
responded in size with the barrel of the pistol, in which brains
were found as described yesterday. The instrument, whatever
ft was, bad penetrated both hemispheres of the brain. The
throat of the unfortunate man was cut nearly from one ear to
the other. Bruises were still visible in his body.
After the Jury had assembled, Probart, Thomas Thurtell,
and Hunt were brought to the house, and placed in separate
rooms. Probart was taken, in company with the Coroner and
Jury, to the room where the corpse was lying, and was asked
if lie had ever seen it before ? He looked at it, and said in
a tone of solemnity, " I never saw that corpse before in my
life. I declare to God I never did. You may rely upon
it, I never saw that unhappy man before." lie betrayed no
extraordinary emotion. lie was conveyed back to his room,
and there in a few moments he altered his tone, and made dis-
closures which in proper time will appear before the public.
In the course of the morning, a search was made about the
premises of Gill's-hill-cottage, and in the dung-hill was found
a shirt steeped in blood, and cut down the middle front top to
bottom. This, on being compared with some shirts of the de-
ceased, was found to be of the same size, and the work in each
corresponded. A sack was also found there, and some pieces
of cord.
The witnesses who were examined befbre the Magistrates on
Wednesday evening and Thursday morning were again beard
yesterday before the Jury, and gave the sante testimony. The
Jury were occupied until nine o'clock lust eight in the inquiry,
and they then adjourned until this day.
The brother of the deceased was present at some part of the
investigation, and was deeply affected, so much so as to be
obliged to quit the room.
The deceased was a man well known in the gaming circles,
but was extremely penurious, and generally carried from 1,0001.
to 2.0001. about his person. This was always contained in an
old pocket-book, and generally placed next his skin beneath his
shirt. These habits were known to all who were in the habit
of being in his company. He will be interred this day in Els-
tree church-yard. None of his property had been found, except
die contents of the bag. The prisoners all remained in confine.
neat, in separate places. I

Rusaiar,

Neapolitan
Austrian

CIMISTONIER BLActumr, Esq. of Wylatn,l
Northumberland, has resigned the office of Tree.
surer to that County. His son, Wm. BLACKETT,
Esq. was unanimously elected his successor by
the Justices assembled at the Michaelmas yeti.
sions at A timid:, last week. The appointment
has given universal satisfaction.
Recent letters from the North—and by ti
" North" we include part of Scotland—speak of
the weather as having, for some time past, been
so favourable to the harvest that the earn has
been, with very trifling exceptions, all got in,
and the crops appear to be geuerally abundant
and of good quality.

A female of genteel appearance, Who has pass-
ed under the name of Watson, and is charged
with having, by forged bills and letters, defraud-
the Banks of Sir M. W. Itint.Ey and Co.,
Messrs. LAMBTON and Co., and Messrs. BACK.,
no," and Co., of
,considerable sums of money,
last to the gaol, New.
c"alls stlce°-titripno'!it-trefdy on Monday
'‘'.floorntdralayl, at the next Quarter
Sessions for that town. Her real name is said to
be

ALL SAlNTC—Holiday at the Exchequer, Bank, East India
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SOLC.V QUIS DICEILE F.4I.SUM AU !BAT

LONDON,
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1/33.

EXPRESS FROM PARIS.
We have received by Express the Doge of
yesterday, and the Journal des Dhbats of Thurs-
day. Their contents are of great importance.
The intelligence which we bad the pleasure of
announcing in a Second Edition on Thursday,
respecting the intended revocation of the frantic
Decrees of the King of SPAIN, is at length fully
confirmed. The Debuts wishes to attribute this
salutary change to the influence of the Duke of
ANGOULEME and of the French Government. But
where was the Duke's influence when the De.
I crees were issued ? Letters from Spain state
that Sir WILLIAM A'COURT was making great
efforts to bring the KING back to moderate mea-
sures. Ills altered conduct, therefore, may with
safety be attributed to the exertions of the English
Ambassador, and ro the danger still apprehended
from the remaining Constitutionalists. The.EwE•
CINADO appears to have performed some brilliant
exploit, which (though the French by their exagge°
rations endeavour to characterize it as atrocious),
has evidently inspired no small degree of alarm
and resistance to the despotism of the Kt:o iS
said to be organizing in almost every part of
Spain. The Journal des Debuts frankly ackno"
ledges that the affairs of Spain are not settled b°
the liberation of FERDIN AND end the occupation
of Cadiz ; and that prudence, moderation, aca
clemency are necessary for completing that work
which was begun by force.
Immediately on FERDINAND'S arrival at Iga".
drid, the obnoxious Decrees wilt be totally
yoked, and measures will be adopted for the
creation of a moderate and in some resPetts
liberal form of Government.
We shall not now enter into the speculatioe of
the Journal der Debuts respecting the Pr"jer
for et
determining the fate of South Arneaica.
a European Congress ! The Journal des
jl
is mistaken in its assumption that °
ure'
the Cabinets" have consented to such a proced
The affected simplicity with which it also Prey
SUMPS that no single State could think. its'.
at liberty to recognize the South American Guilt t
00"
ments, without the concurrence of all the
lg.
European Powers and of Spain, is anluill t
th°'
The Journal des Debats has not forgotten t
there is one great Power which has duchire
its recognition of the South American Strdesicit.
be " hastened or retarded by various eXtergill
SO'
cumstances, as well as by the more or 'e7s opr
factory progress in each state, towards reg
oar
and settled form of Government." It °P,,pre
to us that " various external circumstances', do
" hastening," that event which. the joiSiajougst
Debuts wishes to deprecate ; and that spir
„„
those circumstances, the very proposib
ei
s
unit the fate of South America to the o
oe"
a Congress, ought to be looked upon°
1
the least powerful. re
"1"11
If a Congress is held, we are Wel
Alo
We
that England will not attend it, alio tot,"
fear that its results will drag us int° pre.
It
aries in igtniasvaatl taffrensleatilliteinntteitnidettib.ot°cooooll;
try, not only for the West Imlie4
America, but for the Mediterranean.
(froiN the Etoile of Yesterday.)
(MANI) HEAD-QUARTERS.
Carolina,
ltien raartitdd Head-snarlers
the
ette"
Naomi), Ocr.‘2s.—The official I nod
K.ifig
Seville, of the ‘3otll, attest that the ,
gOOti
the Royal F antis vi
It is the n coornitiii s
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sc•rfr4yeroolil4:;
as
11th November at his Royal Castt°„°oo,
7tr trs
Santa'v I.:: the.
(100
ilis Majesty proposes to visit fi° rib/
having made some stay at Aranklez. King'loo
Peniscola hits submitted to ,fter
thwri of Cacores, in Estretnadurt,