The Sun.
London, England, 1841-06-08 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMEYI'.

HOUSE OF LORDS, June 7,
14rd BROUGHADI took his seat for the first time
aiaee his return from the Continent.
The Duke of DDVONSHIRE presented 13 petitions
rrom Derbyshire in favour of the proposed revision in
the import duties.
Earl BROWNLOW presented several petitions against
413 r. alteration in the Corn-laws.
Lord LYNDHURST presented several petitions to the
effect from various parts of the metropolis.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented several peti-
tions from places in Norfolk, Lincolnshire, and Kent,
Vilna any alteration in the Corn-laws.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition from an
thewly agricultural parish in Northamptonshire, againgt
Corn-las.

CORN-LAWS.
The Earl of RADNOR would make a few remarks
a
1n the injurious effects of the Corn-laws upon the
Tteresti of the labouring classes. It had been found
tit
wwages had been sometimes highest when corn
rule ()west ; and it did not at all follow as a general
e • that wages should vary directly with the
ricei• of corn. Another point mentioned by the Noble
that crime had increased as corn became dear.
ilt
_as ,lontrary to every sound principle to suppose that
was t,a the advantage of the labourer to pay a high
Price for bread. It was not only contrary to reason, but
contrary to the evidence which 'had been adduced before.
accidental
ary Committees. The fact might by some
oireumstances be, that the labourers were
better off wt•en bread was dear than when cheap, but this
was not to be taken as a general rule.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord BRAXBROOK said that the Noble Earl had
introduced many subjects to which he had not alluded
petition
presenting his petition. The person signing that
rtuion had lived tong enough to know that when
-,„°, I',ll was cheap, they were very much worse off than
en it was dear.
Lord STRADBROKE said the Noble Earl intro-
l'a__,ee.ed several topics into his speech, which had nothing
whatever to do with the question, and came to the most
Ztraordinary conclusion. He admitted that poor-rates
uB
t be high when corn was dear, but it did not follow
rm that circumstance that the labourer must be
uetter oft
Lord ASHBURTON said it was impossible that
the nglish, agriculturist, who paid 12s. a-week for the
acultivation of his land, could compete with the foreign
'lsower
tht , who only paid 3d. or 4d. a day, and if
Corn-law • was to be repealed, the English
attik'tilturalist had better realise his capital abroad,
'lad t(
cultivate land in Pomerania and Meeh-
f„ Vil-Th, and other parts of the north of Germany.—
k flea t, hear," and a laugh.) •
„(rhel.7att-1 of RADNOR said they contended with the
4wriesh laha\urer at the rate of 4d. a day.—(No, no.) There
re litany' of them only got 6d. a day, and worked but
two-thirds of the year. Did not that reduce the rate
e()c, `lages to - 4d. a day ?---(Hear, hear.) If they
i
e(nlipet a with the Irish labourer they could coin-
with the,. German labourer.—(Hear, hear.) It had
been said that for every quarter of foreign corn that
alie in; a quarter of English corn must be displaced.
4'4 FIT' - -ELI 'll It is meant, I suppose, that
for e 1
`:"rY quartet- of foreign corn imported a quarter of
En ghsh corn woutsk fail to be produced.
Tbe Earl of R.AL'it:Oß—Yes, that is doubtless what
Thilleant ; but that :a not what the statement says.
of co Noble Lord (BraybraNk) had said that as the price
t eame down the food of the people would be de-
,eriorated.--(Hear, hear.) Bust he (the Earl of Radnor)
Zgged to ask the Noble Lord whether the food of
Toe People had deteriorated as the importation of
to elfin corn had increased ?—(Hear.; No, it could not
be Said that it had ; on the contrary, the poor had eaten
vttter bread as the importations had lacreased, and
eaa.en the importations were small, they were compelled to
'TrYo and barley bread.—( Hear, hear.)
14;e rd ASHBERTON said that if the agricultural
our
attic of this country were brought into compe-
4, 'n with the labour of those countries in which this
Ate of low wages and low dietexisted, the labourer of
wise
~eountrwould inevitab be brought into the same
-rte of lowwages and low diet. Every one knew
tne labourers of this were better fed and better
—°thed than the labourer of any other country.
FITZWILLIAM said the labourers of this coun-
: were certainly better fed and better clothed than any
'tier. But the Noble Lord seemed to think that the
'-vicultural labourer was the only labourer of the country.
as the Marquis of SALISBURY thought it would much
'unter become the Noble Earl to make an original motion
this subject, and thereby raise a discussion upon it.
'le (the Marquis of Salisbury) coulal not admire this
treting up discussions on the presentation of petitions.
thought it was quite contrary, too, to the regulation of
thellouse, in opening a discussion, to allude to a speech
that had been delivered in that House on a former day.—
' (Rear, hear.)
Earl FITZ WILLIAM—I made no such allusion.
„ The marquis of SALISBURY alluded to the Noble
14°114. who 1 d" • 'on He believed that the
Noble opene t iacussi .
FAH (Fitzwilliam) thought a repeal of the Corn-
14ws N‘lovid be a source of benefit and happiness to the
labouring classes of the community, but he doubted very
materially if that opinion would be backed by the la-
bourers themaelves.
Earl FITZWILLIAM rose, but was received with
loud Cries of "Ico, no."
Earl of lIAREWOOD admitted that the illanu-
iieturers of this country were in a depressed state, but
I:,`E'nied that they were caused by the existing Corn-
' tritt:, The depression in trade in the manufacturing die-
'l-41se from the manufacturers underselling each
the spirit of speeulation that pervaded them.
tea:l,7 'le saw in his own county factories being contin-
.4;slitti',erocted, he could not sit still and hear it said that
1%. sin the manufacturine• districts was caused by the
esetit Cor, 1 H r 'hear )
-tar, s.—( ea , hear.)
a 1-ZWILLIAM said he had never stated
the distress in the manufacturing districts was
•'itted wiinliF by the present Corn-laws ;he had stated
-as in a great measure caused by them. He thought
,• e noble Earl had fallen into the'error he (the Earl of
- N.
-4,` there %ood) had attributed to him (Earl Fitzwilliam),
at of •
41, tioi statuag that the distress was caused by specula-
," 141, and underselling. In answer to the Noble
- Thlnis (Salisbury) he begged to state that early in
e"
its next Session of Parliament, he should move that it
ti e (hay of this House to take into serious considera-
o thn, the profthe And also to-
eaent system
Inorro
wne should move that there should be an exami-
11l
n of atio
fo ail the signatures to the petitions presented
rare
against the repeal of the Corn-laws.
Lord BROUGHAM said that two years and a half
tt_
• 11P he moved a similar motion to the Noble Earl, and
e was then prepared with evidence at their Lordship's
of
a,
r; to
• ' I
Prove that low wages would not be the consequence
44 ow priee of corn ; that motion was met with
;),,nlisch opposition that he did not then press a division.
•. 'le Noble Lord presented several petitions from Scot-
ad •
• In favour of a total repeal of the Corn-laws, in
'neit
cord fully concurred.
the DLNCANNON moved the second reading of
"Mowing Mks :—The Assessed Taxes and Comp°,
77:0n Bill,
Militia Suspension Bill, and County Courts
Ireland) Bill. The Noble Lord also moved that the
np.r Duties Bill be read a first time.
the
•,, t• Duke of SUTHERLAND presented a petition
rot ta
ro,Newcastle- under-Lyne, in Staffordshire, praying
ail alteration in the Corn-laws.
Earl of fSTANHOPE presented a petition from
Tiosethire against any alteration in the Corn-laws.
*lttLord PORTMAN presented a petition from the in-
c.,:ntants of Paddington, praying for a repeal of the
a,_"4-laws. In that petition he most fully and cordially
--7trred.
frZarl FITZWILLIAM presented several petitions
ii,7,Crtamock, Derbyshire (2,666 signatures), lietter-
p,7l', '''el'autrvon, Norfolk, Yorkshire, and other places,
,‘;pitg for a repeal of the Corn-laws.
• der 11' Lordships adjourned at Twenty minutes past
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HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 7.
4-n„ SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour.
heproghedaHarbourßill,theßlackburnlmprovement
BMarket Bill, the St. Helen's Small Debts Bill, the
ha,ilneeston Small Debts Bill, the Salisbury Small Debts
ill,l the Sleaford Small Debts Bill, the Wemyss Estate
the Lincoln Road Bill, the Trusley and Doncaster
1444 ad! Bill, the Bourn Drainage Bill, and the Burnley
mall
Debts Bill, were reported.
The Forth and Clyde Navigation Bill, the Scrabster
harbour )3ill and the Brighton and Shoreham Road Bill
ie,v,? severally read a third time and passed.
;LAST- AND CAVEHILL RAILWAY BILL.
,1*
r_ O'CONNELL moved the re-committal of the Bel-
and Cavehill Railway Bill.
- Colonel VERNER seconded the motion.
„t 1", Air, DUNBAR opposed the re-committal of the Bill..
Colonel CONOLLY opposed the motion. The Hon,
it • anti Gallant Member denied that the railroad, as stated
title Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin, was com-
,ti etain all its parts as the Act of Parliament required.
BATESON, was
.also opposed to the re-coin-
! 4 ritlttal of the Bill He considered it a great hardship
ittt It large number of witnesses .who had come over
co4q4'Arelitid to b• examined -before the Committee
uld be again, after having returned to their respective
brought back, particularly as there was just now
short prospect of their remaining here.
'l7
-ncounT likewise 'opposed the motion, on the
Kt..fth that the Committee, in his opinion, had not
vi erroneous decision.
41'1414 words from Mr. O'CONNELL in reply,
Sir -ROBERT FIiaiGUSSON said the Committee
adeonsidered it useless to proceed; because the Acts
were out.
.Sir GEORGE CLERK considered it would be
2,T'.hing a dangerous precedent to allow a Bill to be
;)41; t'Z'g4tlPiited, when a Committee had sat on it and had
11,1 . air ,1t641144t promble had not been proved. Besides
,r
lute witnesses opposed to the Bill had gone back to
wad, and considering the declarations which had
tOen made by the Ministers, it was extremely doubtful
Wl.ter the Parliament would be in existence at the
6.te
rplurn.
!., „ ~.t3IIW that the Committee 141-iTIE d had
.„„•• reported that the preamble I.IW net been proved,
Dlr. LITTONthat the. Acts expired which
said had
professed to enlarge and continue, and that
'irtticf,* it was impossible to prove the preamble.
tratigers weep Olen ordered to withdraw, and the
$o ,•e divided, when there appeared—
For the re-committal .„, .................. 69
Against it ................. , ............... 201
*rity against the Re-committal ......
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.I.4ANpLORDS IN IRELAND.
• - Ur: O'CONNE4 prirg 1196 e t. 1114 he should 'shortly
,t:l4 tnove for leave to bring in a Bill Cu
as
the law of
‘• ,4 landlord and tenant in Ireland, so far as to give compen-
cation to yearly tenants for improvement of the estates.
t. The .1-lon. and Learned Member said he hoped the House
‘,01.11d indulge him fur a few moments while he referred
matter personal to himself.—(Hear, hear.) , The
itouse was aware of the serious charge made against him
(.h% O'Connell) the other evening, of distraining in
April for rent due to him on the 25th March. He (Air.

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