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London, England, 1812-04-11 00:00:00

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Counsel were heard at considerable length re-
spealing the Scots Appeal, M.Nair v. Fleming, viz.
Sir T. Plumer and Mr': Nolan for the Appellant, and
Mr. Adam as leadiog Counsel for the Respondent.
Further hearing adjourned till Menday.
Lord SHEFFIELD, after a few prefatory words,
presented a Petition from eertaio Merchants end
others ,of the Port of London, the prayer of which,
as we could hear it, was ,for an extension of the
trade India. The Petition was ordered to lie on
the table.
Mr. lienrick brought up froM the Commons a
Return Bill, and one or .two ()thus,. which were,
read a first tune. . •
Mi. KENT, from the Mint Office, presented an
account of the number, &c. of Tokens-- coined at
the Mint for the Bank of. England.
The Bills upon the table wci:e. forwarded in their
several stages; among these, Lord Wellington's An-
nuity, the Pilots' Regulation, the Honduras Woode,
the St. DOrninga and Jamaica Intercourse Bilis,
Vassed through Conimhtees of the ‘vhole House,
and were reported without any arnendurent. ,
The Irish Soldiers' Families, and Irish Mifiliel
Families Bills, were read a second and third time,
and paned.
Earl GREY presented a Petition from certain
Mer Chants, Ship-owners, and others of the Town
and Purl of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, praying for an
extension of the Trade to India. His 17oidship
expiessed his hope that the Petition would be re-
ceited by the House with all due attention,. He
would not trouble the House with any premature
remarks on the subject, before its discussion should
regularly come before the House.
A Petition to a similar effect.from certain Mann-
faetureis end others,of_the Town of Walsall, was
presented by the Marquis pt Stafford. Both these
documents were ordered to lie on the table.
On the motion of Lord REDESDALE, the consider-
ation of tire Insolvent Debtors'. Relief Bill was fixed
for Thursday next.
Earl STAN HOPE took occasion to remind the Noble
and Learned Lord, that the House was summoned
on a motion of his on, that day already, and which ,
should therefore have a priat-ity,of discussion.
REVERSIONARY GRANTS'I3II.L.,
The Order of the Day (upon which their Lord-
ships were surnmorteJ), fors their Lordships going
into a Corntu;ttee on 'this Bill, being read—L
rd
Walsingham accordingly took the Chair. -
Earl GR6SVENOR, pursuant to his notice, rose for
the purpose of offer;ng an Kinendment. with respeft
to the proposed duration of the Bin. In the 'cour-e
of his prefatory observations, he repeated those pro-
minent sentiments he had formerly delivered on the
subject, arid adverted to the consideration that it was
more incumbent on the House, in point of principle,
to accede to his proposition for extending the pro-
hibition to a considerable length, in order to evince,
to the country_ that they were earnestly cent on re-
forming abuses in the State and in the public .ex-
penditure, than with a view to any importiint.
pecu-
niary saving that would result from the abolition • of
the prattice in question, or eten of the existence of
SinecUre Places. He observed, that though a stigma
might, well attach to the pia6lice or to the existence
of such 'offices in a Slate, et it did not follow that
the holders of such offices could justly be stigma.
'tined ; as some of these, at tire period of such offices
or grants -being conferred, were necessarily, liorn
their extreme youth, unconscious or ignorant of.
their nature—eyen inta:its at their mother's breasts
had been the objects of them. In conclusion, he
observed, that such a line of conduCt was now ex«
pealed by the country ;
.and that-the sentiments ex-
pressed on a recent occasion, on the 'sublec't of pub-
lie economy, would become general throughout the
country, net withstanding the obstacles which. were
thrown in the way. His Lordship then proposed
his amendment, Which was, to omit the words

st Feb. 1814" (as the doiatiou of the 13W), for

be purpose of inset-ling the words, " Ist of Feb.
840."

. The question being nut,
The Eail ot LAuntatnA Ls said, although. he should ,
eventually support the amendment ot his Noble.
Friend, 'iet- be differed widely from him in many
important considera,lons which • he had advanced.
To render the Bill competent, supposing the amend-
ment were adopted, a corresponding ainend.:nritt
ought to be made- in the pre3mble. • The degree of
w 1-tntit displayed on each side; for and against the
measure, was, in his Opinion, .yery
The objet[ which the 1.3d1 involved, was by no.
means of that description which should lead to so
strong.a feeling; •in point of amount, he believed
the places •so held did not exceed 35 ;00 01. per tin-
num. The inferences which had been made as to
an influence in Pat-fitment therefrom, were un war-
rantabl,:. AtJ tar as be knew, for the last tinily
years, no great or material abuse had taken place on
the subj•.let. There was , nothing in his conduct
which would entitle arty msn to sly he was aetuat-
ed by apy interested views in making such a remark.
The subjeti of fhe Bill served to take off the public
attention from matters of really great and serious
importance to their interests. It was also asserted
thit this measure would also tend to diminish the
i„fluence of the Crown. This, he denied ; it would
as tie could slim, father have a contrary tend cy.
But he would aver that the influence of the Crown,
with respect to the Iwo Houses of Parliament, had
of late years been considerably diminished. One
Ctuse of ttos, was the abolition of between tw .:y
and thirty Parliamen•ary places. Much sliess in
this respeci, as laid on the great increase of the
army and, th.: navy, but he, Was ready to state, that: