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GATIONS.

Mr. HUME also moved for a return of all payments
during the years 1844, 1845, 1846, and 1847, under the
Act 6 Geo. IV., c. 87, to ministers and congregations,
and others, abroad, with the names and places, and
amounts to each in each year, and the aggregate sum in
each vear.—Motion agreed to.
GRANTS TO PROTESTANT DISSENTERS.
Mr. HUME also moved for copies of any correspond-
ence, since the Ist day of January, 1847, between the
Non-conforming or Protestant Dissenting ministers in
Ireland and the Irish Government or the Treasury, re-
specting any increase in their grant, or any suspension
of the rules under which the congregations have to pay
certain sums before their ministers can receive the Par-
liamentary grant.—Motion agreed to.
PROPERTY AND INCOME-TAX.

Mr. MOFFATT moved for a return of the charge on
persons in trade and professions to the property and in-
come-tax, 5 and 6 Vic , c. 35, under schedule 1), fcr the
year ending the 5Lh day of January, 1847, distingui,h-
ing the amounts charged in classes, from above 1501. and
under 2001 ; 2001. and under 3001. ; 300/. and under
400/. ; 4001. and under 5001. ; 5001. and under 6001. ;
6001. and under 700/. ; 7001. and under 8001. ; 800/. and
under 900/. ; 9001. and under 1.000/. ; 1,000/. and under
1,500/. ; 1,500/. and under 2,000/. ; 2,500/. and under
3,000/. ; 3,000/. and under 4,000/. ; 4,000/. and unler
5,000/. ; 5,000/. and under 10.000/. ; 10,000/. and under
20,0001. ; 20,000/. and under 30,000/. ; 30,0001. and under
50,000/. ; 50,000/. and upwards ; showing the amount
chargeable in each class, the number of persons in each
class, and the amount of tax received from each class.
Also, for a return of charge to the property and income-
tax, 5 and 6 Vic., c. 35, on persons in receipt of
salaries, pensions, annuities, or other payments
under schedule E, distinguishing the amounts
charged in classes, from above 150/. and
under 2001. ; 2001. and under 300/. ; 300/. and under
400/. ; 400/. and under 5001. ; 500/. and under 600/ ;
600/. and under 7001. ; 700/. and under 800/. ; 800/. and
under 900/. ; 9001. and under 1,000/. ; 1,000/. and under
1,500/. ; 1,500/. and under 2,000/. ; 2,0001. and under
3,000/. ; 3,000/. and under 4,000/. ; 4,000/. and under
5,0001. ; 5,000/. and upwards ; showing the amount
chargeable in each class, the number of persons in each
class, and the amount of tax received from each class.
Also for a return of the net amount of property and
income tax received for the year ending the sth day of
January, 1846, classed under the several schedules A,
B, C, 1), and E, contained in the Act sth and 6th Vic.,
cap. 35. Also a like return for the year ending the sth
day of January, 1847.-Motions agreed to.
INVESTMENT OF TRUST MONIES.
Mr. HOPE moved for, and obtained leave to, bring in
a Bill to facilitate the investment of trust monies in the
improvement of land.
MASTERS IN CHANCERY.-AFFIDAVIT
OFFICE BILL.
The House then went into Committee on this Bill,
the several clauses were agreed to, and the Bill was
reported.
CUSTODY OF OFFENDERS BILL.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER the Bill was read a third time and passed.
JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES' BILL.

This Bill was also read a third time and passed.
STOCK IN TRADE EXEMPTION BILL.
This Bill went through Committee, and the several
clauses were agreed to.
DRAINAGE OF LAND (IRELAND) BILL.
The report upon this Bill was brought up and agreed
to, and the Bill was ordered to be engrossed.
SHANNON NAVIGATION BILL.

This Bill was read a third time and passed.
MUSSEL FISHERIES BILL (SCOTLAND.)
Report received.
NEW ZEALAND COMPANY BILL

Report received.
LONDON BRIDGE APPROACHES BILL.
Order for the second reading of this Bill discharged.
POST-OFFICE BILL.
On the order of the day being read for bringing up
the report on this Bill for the purpose of discharging it,
Mr. AGLIONBY inquired if the Hon. Gentleman
had turned his attention to the subject of having one
uniform rate of postage between this country and all the
colonies?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
would consider the matter.
The report was then ordered to be brought up to-
morrow.

RAJA OF S ATTAR A.
On the order of the day being read for resuming the
adjourned debate on this subject,
Mr. E WART put it to the Government, as the sub-
ject was creating a deep impression in the public mind,
whether it would not be advisable and politic to insti-
tute an inquiry into the claims of the Raja? As the
Hon. Member, however, was proceeding to deliver a
speech, he was called to order by
The SPEAKER, who said that the Hon. Memb( r
must con flu? himself to the question he had risen to put.
Mr. E WART then simply asked the question.
Sir J. C. HOBLIOUSE assured the Hon. Gentleman
who brought forward the motion and the Hon. Gentle-
man who had asked the question that if the R ija of
Sattara had been unjustly deposed that he ought to l.e
rein,tated. He should be the last man to object to an
inquiry. He felt, however, that he could not consistently
with his duty accede to the motion. The question of his
claims had been fully discussed on a motion of the Hon.
Member in 1845 ; it would be, therefore, sufficient for
him now to state briefly the nature of the whole ques-
tion. He denied that the Raja was an independent
Prince, and that this country was bound to him by a
sacred treaty to sustain him on the throne. It was true
he was the son of Sevige ; but this man, and
those connected with him were the mere puppets
of the dominant powers—the governors of tho Mahratta
empire. He was born in Persia, and both he and his
relatives were utterly powerless. Captain Grant stated
that he was sly, and given to dissimulation and intrigue,
and General Briggs gave a most prophetic account of
him. After mentioning his good qualities, he stated
that the Raja appeared disposed to remove himself from
the control of this nation, under whose control he was
stated to have been placed, and that his passion for in-
trigue, and inordinate notion of power, would even-
tually lead to his ruin. He admitted that General
Briggs had stated that he had found reason to change
his opinion since he made this statement ; but he (Sir
John C. Hobhouse) contended that the statement first
made by him was more worthy of credence, from the
circumstances under which it was made. General Lod
wick—and a change had also come over his dream—
stated that the Raja acted entirely without control, and
as if he were not bound by the treaty with this country,
by which the British Government put him upon the
throne, and pledged itself to keep him there, on his ob-
serving certain conditions, which he had broken. This
he thought was sufficient to condemn him, and to jus-
tify the Government in calling upon him either to ob-
serve the treaty, or to retire from the throne. He
was bound to put himself under the control of
the British resident, but he refused to do so.
He might also quote the opinion of General Robertson
to the same effect. It was true, in 1836, the Court of
Directors felt so pleased with the conduct of the Raj e
that they presented him with a sword; it was also true
that he signed the dispatch which accompanied it; but
they had since had reason to alter their opinion. In the
same year, Lieutenant-General Lodwick reperted that
the Raja had violated the treaty—that he had shown
himself faithless—and that his conduct presented no
" extenuating circumstances." It was on the receipt of
these reports by the Government of Bombay, that a com-
mission, consisting of three competent and impartial
gentlemen, was appointed in October, 1836, to inquire
into the charges which had been made, and they were
made by the most competent person to do so; namely,
the British resident. The gentlemen were General
Lodwick, Mr. Willoughby, and Colonel Ovens, whose
character was unimpeachable, and they were re-
quested to inquire into the alleged infraction of the
treaty. They sat 24 days, examined all parties
brought before them on oath, and they came to a deci-
sion with which every one would agree. His Hon.
Friend said that the Raja was not heard in his defence ;
but he attended on the 13th day with his brother and
others, when his servants were examined with respect
to the conspiracy at Bellapore, Hydrabad, and other
places. Mr. Willoughby told him if he was guilty of
the charges imputed to him, that it would be well for
him to confess his guilt ; adding, at the same time, that
they were ready to hear him. Both on that day and
the 16th, and on other days depositions were received
from him, and witnesses sent by him were examined.
No man could say that he did not receive all the advan
tages which an accused had a right to demand.—(Hear.)
The Commissioners sent all their proceedings to the
Government of Bombay, and they were ultimately
transmitted to the home Government. Sir Ro-
bert Grant had been stated to have had
an interest in injuring the case of the Raja; but there
was no man more fair or more consistent than that

lamented gentleman.—(Hear, hear.) He stated that no
one would deplore the departure of the Raja, and that
no one would think that he bad been the victim of the
oppression and tyranny of this country, but of his own
over-reaching ambition. Did they think that Sir
Robert Grant would have hazarded this record of his
opinion, if he had not sincerely believed that he w,s
honestly justified in expressing it?—(Hear, hear.) And
Mr. Farish and Mr. Anderson, two of the council of
Sir Robert Grant, agreed iu stating that the Raja had
throughout shown a disposition to break away from the
terms of the treaty. lie also stated that the views of the
Raja were to seduce the native officers of the British
army from their allegiance, and though they were gene.
rally futile—(Hear, hear, from Mr. Hume)—still they
were of a character to justify the course that was taken
against him. The opinions of these men having been
communicated to Lord Auckland, that nobleman stated
that he freely concurred in the unanimous opinion of
the Government of Bombay that the Raja was guilty of
the treason which was laid to his charge, and that he
was unworthy, from his ambition and malignity, to fill
the position which he held. He would now read the
opinion of General Morrison, who was then in In-
dia, who was fully acquainted with the particulars
of the case. That gentleman was of opinion that
there were the strongest proofs of his disaffection and
hostility, but he was of opinion that it would be wrong
to send him to trial, but at once to depose him, and to

declare the reasons for such a s:co. He weaid row
come to the opinion of ano'her gentieman, Mr. Wil-
berforce Bird. That gentleman was also of opinion tl.si
the stipu'ations of the treaty had been violated, and that
the Raja should he set aide. Mr. Robertson.
who was for a long time intruste.l with the go-
vernment of the nortf.-eastern provinces, cep-
firtm d the te-timony of the gentl-rnan whose
opiniens had just been quoted, that the Raja deserved
the treatment which he had received. He now came to
the proceedings of the Board of Control. When Sir
James Carnac went out to India, the last words
which he (Sir J. C. llobhouse) said to him at his
departure were, to deal with the greatest le-
niency with the Raja. In the negotiations of that
Baronet with the Raja, the latter objected not to the
preamble of the treaty, as had been stated, but to the
second article, which he believed would reduce him to
the condition of a mere steward or serf under the British
Government. Now he (Sir J. C. Hohhouse) contended
that this objection involved a disinclination to the treaty
itself, and confirmed the opinions which were
entertained of the Raja's conduct. Sir Janie
Carnac, however, gave the Rajah every op-
portunity to re-consider his determination, anti n
was not till the Raja refused for the third time to sign
the stipulation, that he was deposed. The Right floe.
Baronet then proceeded to defend Colonel Ovens from
the misrepresentation whit-h had been made acains•
him in a petition presented to the 11, use
of Commons, from Mr. Forbes, in 15:39
and also the other charges that had beet
made against that officer by the Hen. Member for
Montrose. That Gallant Jificer had behaved with the
greatest leniency towards the Raja, when in the act
of deposing him, and with regard to the charge
of forgery he (Sir C. Hobhouse) stated that Colonel
Ovans was the first who suggested doubts as to the
authenticity of the forged seals.—(Hear, hear.) There
never was an officer so maligned. It was his (Sir J. C.
Hohhouse) opinion that the Rajah would never
have adopted the course he did, had he not been
influenced by bad advice from Bombay—to the effect
that no such steps would be taken against him. After
reading the opinions of Mr. Edmonston, who took the
same views as the others whose opinions he had quoted,
the Right Hon. Baronet proceeded to detail the course
adopted by the Court of Proprietors of the East India
Company, when the charges were brought against
Colonel Ovens by Mr. George Thompson, and
when not a single individual of that body
gave his vote in favour of the truth of these charges.
It appeared to him, in conclusion, that it would be
fatal to the Government of India to take the power from
them which they at present exercised, except upon a
case of the greatest necessity ; and if the House showed
a distrust in the authorities there, they would be strik
ing a blow at the sovereignty of India from which it
would never recover.—(Cheers.)
Au Hoar. MEMBER said it was considered by
all parties that the Raja would be treated with a second
trial, and it would be seen from the debates which had
occurred upon this subject that Sir Robert Peel was of
opinion that a second trial ought to be granted. The
Raja had fully proved that he was totally ignorant of
the offences which had been attributed to him, while the
evidence of the Ministers of Spain and Portugal fully
proved that the declaration of innocence on the part of
the Raja was sincere ; and yet, in the teeth of
all this testimony, a second hearing had been refused.
to the Raja. There could be no doubt that the Raja did
not have justice done to him on his first trial, and it
was no less certain that the Raja had been treated with
nothing but cruelty since the first inquiries into his
alleged offence, when the Right Hon. Gentleman at the
head of the Board of Control had told the House
that Lord Auckland was convinced of the guilt
of the ]laja of Satara.—(Hear, hear.) He would
not do the Noble Lord the injustice to suppose
that the Noble Lord was sincere in that opinion,
but this he would say,-that the Noble Lord had never
denied the right of the Raja to claim and to have con-
ceded to him a fair trial. He contended that the
facts and statements of his Honourable Friend the
Member for Montrose remained not only uncon-
troverted but uncontradicted. True, it had been shown
that he was in error in some of his details, but never
theless, he trusted the special pleading of the Right Hon.
Gentleman the President of the Board of Control would
not prevent further inquiry being instituted into this
painful and distressing case. The might Honourable
Gentleman might object to inquire into the merits of the
case through the medium of a Committee of that House;
but the Raja and his agents were disposed to submit to
any other species of inquiry, and he for one, as a Mem-
ber of the independent section of the Legislature of this
country, trusted that justice would not be refused to the
Raja by the British House of Commons.—(Hear.)
Mr. PETER BORTHWICK said he would not
detain the House at any great length upon
this question, but he really must confess that having
listened attentively to the details of the case of the
Raja of Sattara, he could not help thinking that a
second inquiry ought to be instituted into it. No doubt
the Raja was a person of sly habits. He acquired
those habits through being trained in a gaol, but bear-
ing in mind the fact that after twenty years expe-
rience the Indian Government had found the Raja
more attached to the British constitution and British
authorities than any other Prince of a similar cha-
racter, it was clear that the charges against
the Raja, if not without foundation, were grossly
exaggerated, and he thought an inquiry could not be re-
fused. But a Member of that House had stood up in
his place and told them that if they would grant him an
inquiry into this case, he would prove that an offer of
indemnity and reward were made by the British
Government to the Raja of Sattara if he would
only confess his guilt, and he, for one,
thought that after such a statement as this, the inquiry
asked for could not be refused. If the Raja were a
hypocrite, as wus represented by the Right Hon. Gentle
man the President of the Board of Control, he would, in
preference togetting up an agitation through the medium of
his agents on his own behalf, have rested satisfied with
his allowance of 12,0001. a-year, but he (Mr. Borth wick)
felt that injustice had been done to the Raja, and it was
on that account that the Raja was induced to agitate
this question. He must, therefore, give his vote
in favour of the motion of the Honourable Member
for Montrose if her Majesty's Government declined to
give a pledge that some further inuir should be in
stituted into this painful and distressiq yng case.—(Hear )
Dr. BOWRING thought the Right Hon. Baronet
at the head of the Board of Control had treated
the Raja of Sattara with gross injustice. The
Court of Directors of the East India Company
and the British residents at Sattara, before these
charges which had lead to the deposition of the Raja
were preferred, pronounced the Raja to be one of the
staunchest supporters of the British Government ; and
it was not, till it was found convenient to make these
unjust charges against the Raja, that they felt them.
selves called upon to change their opinions in that re-
spect. He thought, therefore, that some further inquiry
ought to be instituted into the case of the Raja.
Mr. B. ESCOTT said the case made out for the de-
cision of the House remained without any answer on
the part of those who should support the sentence
against the Raja of Sattara, and if it were on that
ground alone, he thought the further inquiry asked for
ought to be conceded by the House.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir E. COLUBROOKE thought the lion. Member for
Montrose had made out a strong case for inquiry, and
he should certainly give the motion of the Hon. Gentle-
man his support.--(Hear, hear.)
Sir J. W. HOGG said, whatever might be said to the
contrary, there could be no doubt that the
statement of the Right Honourable Gentleman
the President of the Board of Control was a sufficient
answer to the charges of the Honourable Gentleman, the
Member for Montrose. The Raja had been fairly
tried, he had had every opportunity of defending him-
self against the charges which had been preferred against
him, and let them institute as man,'
inquiries as they
liked, it was quite impossible that any other result could
be come to than that which had already been arrived at.
—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman the Member for
Montrose had asked for a Commission of Inquiry to be
sent out to Bombay. Why, that Commission had
already been sent out, and after the conclusion
that Commission had come to upon the case of the
Raja, there could be no possible advantage
derived from any further inquiry into the matter, no
person could read through the evidence adduced on the
trial of the Raja, admitting as he did the absurdity
of the schemes which it was said the Raja
Rajahad in view, without being convinced theatuo theuse
was guilty of the charges preferred against him.
What use could there be in any further inquiry? No-
thingwould
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to t
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motionhoped,
of
therefore,the H on. Gentleman
th
opposite.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord JOHN MANNERS supported the motion for
an inquiry into the case of the Raja.
After a few words from Mr. HUME,
The House divided, when there appeared--
, For the inquiry ............ •••• ............ 23
Against it .................................... 4421
majority .............................. —2l
• The House then went into Committee pro forma.
The remaining orders of the day were then disposed
I of, and the House adjourned at Half-past One o'clock.

DEGRADING Eir°9E Or PRISONERS a EFORE
".
TMIAL.—We cannot refrain from an expression of our
feelings which were indignantly excited on Tuesday
intsiich streetswe. l Ive 9
of Wi properly indulge in
and
nchester, six country-
moste been
morning last, by the utter want of all moral feeling and
such common decency as all ranks of society, in the im-
proved
country,
cherish. a
tg ne
see,
A
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the
Englishmen, vve blushed for our
id-ed ffiii:e l
men, of exceedingly decent
heavily chained together, and surrounded by policemen
enough to eat them, if they
e
last New Zealand fashion. We concluded, of course,
they were all murderers, or highwaymen, or burglars,
and on their way to the bulks, after conviction ; instead
of which, we found they had not even been tried, but
were on their way for such ordeal from the gaol to the
County Hall, and their offenFes, wiriag a hare adestroy-
idg partridges' eggs, neglecting to provide for an illegi-
appearance,
had
bn h
fraas
lei cueed in a t
timate child, and rebellion in a workhouse, or such other
minor offences as
the magnates of the land (county
magistrates,, adjudicate upon. We denounce this im-
proper and . disgraceful exposure of men, who may in a
few minutes after be found to be innocent, and insist that
the visiting justices ought to have had them conveyed in
a covered vehicle. The George Inn would have found a
buss gladly at sixpence per head; and the county-rate is
not yet so ruined but that it might have borne the ex-
pense.—Hampshire Telegraph.
TIIE CROPS AND THE WEATHER.—Tha weather
during the last week has been beautifully fine, in fact,
regular hay weather. The crops of all kinds were a
most promising appearance. Never did the potato crops
throughout the districts appear more strong, luxuriant,
and healthy. Whatever croakera and hypocritical agri-
curists may say, unless there be some natural defect in
the physical organization of the plant, present appear-
ances justify us in prognosticating a most plentiful re•
turn.— Carmarthet Herald.