The Sun.
London, England, 1815-02-21 00:00:00

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iiot iii ityplic+l The ';'ax wAs jili~ ii ti)lt;ir ill
tlic as IYt:.ii ;U fiii
fore t'le l'yorch of "to_ State timir taitii, ilk
before ;Ile Income Titx
de,:14H1,-;1) of ti)i:ir Afidirs. The Ciiiio64llur Ut

tlie l xc!►etltier seemed to ivislithi: Inc,;nie Tax to
tliteiit.a,;..; with hotlour. lie Orr. Laving)
",;,-;tdd, never Agree too such a Lox, except- in some
prir.nliar crisis, wherein the vital interests or the
ptsible suhjugation of the country was at hazard.
Russ could not pays tins queition without
floine observations. Conhrthe mind of man ha've
de: ised a letter expedient for improvitg the
rum:lces
.of the country than the original Income
.1.a:;, as propol.;ed by Mr. Pitt ? Soon after 179?,
ttte hinds were in such a state that *the -I per Cents.
v..sfru at 47, and 'there was no possibility 'of "the
p-er Cents. ei-er reaching 30, but by the tue,a-
st rc adopted. fie. thought, thitt
.after the war
the :ax ought to expire ; but it did not follbw,
under particular circumstances, that Parliament

1!.ould not, for a time, renew it.
-Mr. C. GI/ANT said, that if the systeriiof finance
4 which bad been so strongly recommended by Gen-
ilemen on the other side had been adopted, not
'only the war taxes but a part of-the Property :Tax
would have now been mortgaged. As to the
Property Tax, (which had been 'resigned) many
cutleruen appeared to feel about it as Falstaff
fr?d about Percy--" he was 'afraid of th:it gun-
p-owder Percy, even although he' was dead.'' As
to th'e term unconstitutional, if it had been ()ilk,

supported by Mr. Pitt and his admirers, he should

pot have been surprised at. the Gety.lenen who
'usually differed from him Calling it noconst itutionai.
Those Gentlemen, howeyer, who had generallyvot-
-ed with Mr. Fox, and:supportedthe inFrease.of that
tax to 10 per cent. could. hardly conceive that Alr.
would have so greatly increased a tax that
he considered nnconstitutionaL It was called un-
parliilmentary to vote supplies befOre a fail state-
ment•had been made of what would be our na7al.
and military expenditure. It was evident, how
ever, that itt the present circumstances of the
country, this \vas absolutely impossible fcir the
Chancellor of the Exchequer to do. '
Mr. PREE:NIANI.g could not conceive that such
an enormous sum iIS nineteen mi;lions and an half
cquld properly he called a peace establishment
vet this was the stun which the Minister. required ,
for four years. In the year 1786, three years after
the American war, the whole revenue of the coun-
try was not inure than, fourteen millions and, an
half. The numbersoof our army in Europe was
now much greater than, in tO. tune of the Duke
of Marlborough, our, army_ and that. of all our
allies amounted to. The expenditure on account
t,ir the army was incomprably greater. What re-
ward was now given to the people of this, country
ftir the fortitude and patience they had exhibited
in bearing, the burdens of, a twenty years'., war ?
The only boon that we proposed to give'jheni was
eleven millions of taxes, and to raise the price of
the staple commodity of human life: Flint re-
duction did we see taking puce I None. The2tlili-
tia even were not wholly reduced. It was scarcely
4 hours gince we had beard of gOO,OOOl. to be
spent on a new Post-office. The people, to whom
we owed so. much gratitude, now found that Peace
iirought no alleviation to their burthens.

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"Mr. flusylsgot4 said, flat the Hon. Gentleman
who had just sat down, had been extremely warm,
and had exhibited that warmth on a most delicate
point. Did he really wish to tell the people out of
doors, that the only boon for diem was increased
-Taxes and expenses of life ? When the Resolutions
came to he debated, he should be glad to hear his
reastmsfor those assertions. This was, in some
points, the most extraordinary discussion on finance
that he had ever Leard. Many would be led- to
suppose, from the manner in which some Gen-
tlemen had stated the question, that the
nister had proposed the ways and means before
the question of Supply bad been voted, and that
be was proposing taxes which were to last four
years, without being exposed to any revision-from
Parliament. As for the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer not being immediately prepared to
_pre-
sent estimates, it was evident that in the piesent
circumstances it was impossible. If peace was
firmly established, every paper and.every.estithate
that Gentleman could desire would certainly be
laid before the House. His Right ,Hoa. Friend
had been asked, what diminution of the prOduce or
the taxes would probably
.take place. He, for his,
part, did not apprehend a great diminution'. He
thought al,o, that the remission of nine millions
of tykes this. evening would give to many the
means of increased expenditure and consulliption.
ofarticles paying taxes.
Mr. PONSON3Y tbat, upon the report
shouH certainly taree the sense of the House on the
principle of the resolution, before he entered into
the consideration of the details.

Before the question was put on the first re-
soli4tloo,

Lord MaTox wi*d to ask the Right llon.
Gentleman, now Secretary„for Irclaiid, whether
the prOls of the. Governor of the Cupu of Good'
Hope exceeded 12,000/. annually
Mr. Per.t. said, that, to the best of his rccol.
ketion, when he was in the Office of Tinder Se-'
cretary of State, the emoluments of the Civil Go-.
vvrtior vVere 12,000/. a year ; in addition to which
there rere the emoluments Of Commander-in-
Chief.

Lord MILTON then wished_ to know, whetlier
same'person had now the two offiee'of Civil
and nilitary Governor

Mr. zaid, that/as to. the gNpense of the
Civil Government of the Cape, the cirmunsfances
cg the eplony were mtftieient to defray it. He be-
lieved that they not only paid
.the expense of the
Civil 'government, but the- ex.pense of the Cape
regiment also. -
Mr. I,3AraNG asked the Chancellor of the 'Ex-
chequer, whether the dividends payable in July
next would be liable to. the deduction of the Pro-
, •
perty , •r •
The CIIANCELLOR of theExcuncluEa said, that
he believed not. lie understOod thati
would be the deduc-
tion* to he made half-yearly, was what
called in law an undivided sum., of which, if the
whole was not due, no part could be said to he
due,, •

Sir W. GF,ARy spoke againq the imposition of
Stich ht.:tvf taxes io o time olpf.ne,.!.
Mr. TicgN asked the Cisanaellor of the Ex-