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fot the gaite of plate. their_chargter, and the plett;es
which they had givett to the country engap in
an_ on principles directly the reve,se
of those which . but a short time . before, they
had declared their determination to support. Ha
would not praise that Noble Lord _and, that Rio,ht
Hooourabie Gentlemen (or their' refusal. It wottlii

be to pay. them but a very ill compliment to be: s,
for no reasonable and lumen man could. have -hes-i.;

tared a single instant op_ that subject.

G;eat' a

were the talents of that Noble Lord, and great ai
were tte talents and elogne'nce of his Right Hod.
F's lend, he was persuaded, that be, did not go too

tar in saying,-that had they abandoned theit-princiL
pies on this occasion, the utmost emersion of theif
abilities for the rest of heir lives, would never tiav4,
'put -thein on 'a level again with men. of moderatd.
powers and acquisitions, who had preserved theii
tailless and consistency, He presumed-this was td.
.be'treated as a bona • firle attempt. The courktry;
hOwever, would h,..-- blind if it did not see that :ilia.

original design of those by whom it had been madek•
was to leave things as they were, to afford pe6onkia,

office a convenient pretext .for remaining so, and: to
shift from them the odium of remaining in the Ad—
ministration without having made some efibrt to ins

vigorate it. The House had been told. that 1114.
ought to wait uutit they
,saw the nature of tbo
tneasures.that would be adopted. This-was an old

and a specious argument. Bpt at all times, and par-.
ticolarly at the present period, it was most incxpe
diem that men should be in powerw hoin Parhamsot
found it necessary cautiously to watch at every step.,
For such-an imbecile Government, an Administration
pos,essing auiltority and influence,of establ is': ed nan
and charatter, ought_ to be substituted. If the pre',.
sent Ait'uinistration possessed any charaaer, it -watu
anti-catholic. It was the anti-catholic Administra- •
lion of the 14!„getit, led in that House by his .Noble
Friend, He. would ask the House if they could rea-
sonably feel any reliance on the continuance of Ow
present system ? or if they thought that the cham-
pions of it were so firm and dauntless, that they.
were not to be diverted
.from the pntla they had.
chosen ? Was it likely, with the limited means of
resistance which they possessed, that they would be-
able to resist lite consideratior of the Catholic c,aimit.
If this were at least doubtful, would it no: be. arab
better to see -the Administration in the hands of per'
sons who would be Able to talk to the Catholics in 3
firmer tone, and who, while they granted fair con-
cessions on the principle of toleration, would be at)l='
to resist any unreasonable demand Or expectation. it
appeared to him that they were now called upon 10
decide whether at any time.they ,would interfere-*
he would not say with the choice of the, Sovereign''
but on an occasion-line the present,—whether the/
would establish the principles of theirright
the moat important instance in which it could be
tablished, or whether they would surrender. one
their most important privileges for the sake of givi'lg
sanction to an Administration founded on mere
favouritism ?
Lord WaLroiE , contended that the proncsitiO?
was unconstitutional, and referred to precedents its
Support of his opinion.
.Mr. HERBERT (of Kerry), although he differei
from the late Right Hon. Gentietnan's Administr:
lion in.many important points, yet could not oyl.A.
to the present motion, because he thought it trenc..is7i
on the prerogative of the Crown. .He prit,"bat
ready to support any .Administratinn t

would originate.anygood measures.
Mr. Secretary RYDER gave full credit to his
Friend, the MOM of the proposition beforetaf;
House., for his motives ; but maintained'. that if
were .agreed to, it would violate one of the first
most randoubi.e,d prerogatives of the Crown. Tiot;
was not a single instance of the interference Of f
!lament during the ai'Aual formation of an Adrnil"ci
stration. He wished that when his Hon. ktlet,
thought proper to make a proposition of 4
nOvo -
nature, be had adduced one precedent from Itio°1!
in justification of it. There was no such preeedewf
except indeed that to which be hel'eVed an 1
Gentleman opposite had made some, allusion. 113
the corn mencernene Of t bat Administration of wilic,c
Mr.' Pitt ,vas at the head, Mr. Pitt vacated his sel:e
by .the acceptance of the office of First Lord of
T-easury. Mr.. Fox, on that occasion, in rfu)vt-
an ,address to the King not to dissolve Parliatne',ll,-
apologied lc; cluing so in the absence of
and acknowledged that it would be.unconstifutl°'
for the House. to interfere with the CroWit Ifl.
notnination of its Ministers. That was a per'';ej,
great heat and irrital ion ; public men were di9°3l;e.o
at that time, to go greate,- lengths than had ever die
fore been gone, iti.opp v
esing the Ministers oyi
Crown ; yet neither Mr. Fox, any'nor Other (3' hzt
great men Who constituted the Clepositoti of 11.0„
day, veneered upOu salt. an unconstitutienalrJ
position as-that made by. his Hon. Friend. ,'ht,
there, were circumstances at that time which to'g. 4
if any thing could, have in spire measure Je." itr
the preceeding,. The Crown, in the exer.ise:9};,..an
prereptive,.had dismissed Ministers who hoc'
supported iii many imp°, taer questions, by
m.aitnities that House ; and it had to laced sus,,et
Ministers•by men who had ken most aCtive iti
opposition to them. It v,-as in fire;at, 'the
time, that the new Government e_ame in throtigil or
exeic.se of tincon n.l s'itutiol influence, and that
-were men who opposed measures• which had
ed the cOncorrence of Nrliament.' Now be 113 u ice'
heard it surmised that any uticOnstitutional
had bee 6 exeried !tithe present insr.ince.
the Administratori tnight . yet be said to be 101":0-
it was.known who they were. There were net
sons who had oepoied measures which had.rect'vtv•
the'apolobation. or Parliament, brit.men,
cularly his -Nob!e Friend at the head of his
Counei!-4 who 1.173.4 Afere;ore been successfu4
dueling t hat.systiln'w I och for tour.) ears had rct'',,,l.'ere
' the sanetion• of Parliament. Thou., therefore,
oit,.
in power ho had. been
,the tnost se tae ,in
.suPll-01.
of those. measures, .res.pertting
.:which the seng'.o7o..,
' P,irtiament had been so repeatedly and so tineq%
edify expressed. Yet it was ,with the nominatV'i
these person; that,against all precedent and printPr4e
his Hon. Friend wished the House to interfere' 14
spoke the more freely on this subje&, because---cir..
lie took !het present opportu.tity of statiegiloola
cumstances, which it was not necessary for oger to
detail, rendered.ianyi impossible for him any c
fill a place in the Adinihistia;ion of the Cotit %
;,An Hon. Gentleman opposite, had thooglil I otter
press some deub.s as to- the sincerity of o,'e lips
w had been niade. to a Noble Lord all bielr
Right lion. rendE on the floor. HG. ell PO'