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LONDON:
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 1841.

In the House of Lords, last night, some peti-
tions were presented against the Poor-laws, and
Lards FITZWILLIAM and ELL22.IBOROUGH both
agreed that some amendment was necessary.
Lord BROUGHAM brought in a Bill to explain
the Acts for the preservation of property in Ire-
land, and extend their provisions to the city of
Dublin.

The Bishop of EXETER again brought under the
notice of the House the non-printing of a police
ordinance issued in Canada, and accused the Go-
vernment of gross neglect and want of ingenu-
ousness.

Viscount MELBOURNE happily retorted on the
ingeL nous and Christian-du ty-performi ng Bishop,
that perk ous were much in the habit of eharg
others with'those defecio which were most con-
vicumis in themselves. The Bishop was assured
mat the Royal assent should :lot be given to the
ordinance till thirty days from the 16th instant,
and though that did not satisfy him, he could get
nothing else.
Lord LYNDHURST having adverted with-tender
care to the subject of compensation to those who
might be deprived of their offices bylawreform—
though we neverheard that the Noble and Learned
Lord suggested a compensation for the hand-loom •
weavers, who were deprived of their bread by a
reforin in machinery—and Viscount MELBOURNE
having assured the Noble and Learned Lord that
compensation should be provided, their Lord-
ships adjourned,
The Commons received a considerable number
of petitions, including, one presented by Lord
MORDETH, sign,ed„yb 205,830 persons, against
Lord STANLEY'S Bill. Mr. M. PHILLIPS pre-

sented a similar petition from Manchester, with
32,237 signatures.
Leave to bring in a Bill was obtained by Mr. C.
BULLER, to amend the law relative to the admis-
sibility of evidence; by Mr. HANDLEY, to drain
land in England and Wales ; and by Mr. Fox
MAULE, for removing doubts as to the continu-
ance of certain Turnpike Acts.
The adjourned debate on the Irish Registra-
tion Bill was resumed by Mr. YOUNG, the Mem-
ber for Cavan, who made, though opposed to
Lord MonpETH's Bill, a speech which Lord
Howrcx and Mr. MACAULAY subsequently cha-
racterised as sensible and judicious. His princi-
pal argument against the Bill was the imperfec-
tion of the present valuation of property, admit-
ting thereby that the valuation and rating to the
poor, when improved, would be a good test of the
franchise.
Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN supported the Bill, ex-
posed the nomalies of the Irish system, and
de-
clar against allowing the landlords to grant or
withhold the elective franchise, which would be
the result of Lord STANLEY'S Bill. He regretted,
too, that the Government Bill did not abolish the
necessity of having paid the taxes, except the
Poor Rates.
Sir IL BATESON opposed the Bill, resting his
vote on the speech of Lord STANLEY.
Mr.CAREW thought the Bill of Lord STANLEY
f calculated to destroy the franchise, while Lord
MORPLTH'S Bill would secure it, and he gave the
latter his cordial support.
Lord Howicx took up the sti oag ground of its
being necessary to define the franchise before
setting about making a System to register it, and
enforced that view at considerable length with
great effect. The Noble Lord also dwelt with
great power on the mischief of narrowing the
franchise.
Mr. LEFROY followed Lord Hoi,vicx, and made
an Orange special pleading speech that was
heard without pleasure, and will be read without
instruction.
The ATTORNEY-.GENERAL for Ireland was, we
are bound to say, not much better, though he
was on the opposite side to Mr.• LEFROY. The
Right Hon. Gentleman may have a clear head, but
he has not the faculty of convincing his hearers
that he is so endowed. He explained and de-
fended the principles of Lord MonrETH's Bill,
and showed in what way Lord STANLEY'S would
be vexatious.
Sir W. FOLLETT spoke of the measure much
more like a nisi prius lawyer than a states-
man. But that was level to the capacity
of the gentlemen around him, who accor-
dingly cheered him vociferously. His ar-
guments run on the insufficiency of the valua-
tion as the foundation of Lord MORPETH's Bill,
which, puerile as it was, he had not the merit of
first bringing forward. The valuation will by
and by be better. He pointed out, however, that
the valuation was not conducted according
to Act of Parliament—a good ground for
a prosecution for a misdemeanour, but
having no more bearing on the settling the
franchise of the Irish than his speech in favour
of the Earl of CARDIGAN. The smooth silver

tongue of this gentleman is of more use to him,
we apprehend, than his head ; at least it took
captive the willing cars of the Tories, though he
did not advance a single argument that ought to
influence the judgment of a sane minded man.
He was however well adapted to them, smooth
sound, with a show only of sense.
Mr. MACAULAY, who followed Sir WILLIAM
FOLLETT, is the very reverse, and his rough,
burley, husky voice seemed spasmodically to
close the ears against the clear arguments he di-
rected to the understanding. In a speech power-
fill from its matter, and offensive from its man-
ner, which several times provoked the im-
patient and unmannerly laughte'r of those
who would not wait to comprehend it,
Mr. MACAULAY examined the question as a phi-
losopher and a statesman. He demonstrated that
Lord MORPETIT'S test would give great facilities
for registration, would, keep out bad voters and
let in good, which is the great object to be ob-
tained. He also demonstrated that Lord STAN-

LEY'S Bill would keep out voters of all kinds, and
would be an eternal system of vexation to the
voter. It was a perpetual re-opening of cases
once decided, contrary to the principles
of the law of England both in crimi-
nal and civil cases. He showed by his own ex-
ample—possessing a vote fbr the University of
Cambridge, which, though more valuable than
a vote for an Irish county, he would not seek
every year to maintain— that Lord STANLEY'S Bill
would be a measure of sweeping disfranchise-
ment. He was extremely happy in expos-
ing the present uncertainty and inconsis-
tency of the law, showing that in Dublin
whoever was defeated in the Barrister's Court,
having a power to appeal to either one of the
Superior Courts, which take opposite views of the
franchise, wqs sure to be successful before the
Judges ; showing, too, that the law is different
in different parts of Ireland, and in differs;nt
years; and all these anomalies and inconsistencies
the Legislature, under Lord STANLEY'S guidance,
whose bounden duty it is to make the law clear
and precise, would aggravate tenfold. The Right
Hon. Gentleman was very happy, too, in expl-
sing the pernicious effects of Lord STANLEY'S
Bill in making the Judges suspected political
partizans, and concluded a powerful speech, as to
matter, by reminding the !louse of the ne-
cessity the country was under at a former
time, from treating Ireland unjustly, of em-
ploying her troops there to quell insurrection
when they might have been adding to the glories
of Blenheim, or anticipating those of Waterloo.
But Mr. MACA ULAY'S speech did not tell as it
ought on the House. Surely a man may have
strong convictions, without giving way to an im-
petuous manner ; may reason clearly, without
speaking loud; may have fine and noble thoughts,
adorned by beautiful illustrations, without thun-
dering them out as if he had not to convince his
opponents, but to crack their ears. The un-
measured vehemence which provokes laughter
leads him into errors. We noticed two or three
such alliterative slips, as, speaking of a Judge, "he
will be regarded by one party as an oppressor, and
by the other as a demagogue." But if one party
would regard him as an oppressor, the other
would regard him as a friend and protector, and
Mr. MACAULAY expressed himself erroneously.
It is much to be regretted that he mars his
effective and powerful reasoning by a kind
of bow-wow oratory, as if big thoughts
could only be uttered by bellowing. The
debate was again adjourned when Mr. MACAULAY
resumed his seat, without receiving a tithe of the
cheers his excellent matter deserved.

The House adjourned at Twelve o'Clock.

The Electors of Glasgow held a public meet=
ing on Friday, and passed, unanimously, a series
of resolutions for the modification of the Import
Duties, of which the following are specimens :-
4th. That the present Duties on the importation of foreign
Corn, and other food, levied for the supposed encouragement
of the landowners, have been shown on many occasions, and
more especially by the evidence adduced under the foresaid

Report, to be equivalent to a tax on the consumers of the
United Kingdom, of an amount equal to that of the whole an-
nual taxation thereof, for the iurposes of Government.
sth. That our rejection of the corn, timber, and other ag-
ricultural and pastoral produce of the Continent of Europe and
other countries, have provoked similar exclusions of British
manufactures from these countries, and forced into existence
many rising and formidable foreign manufactures—the farther
advancement of which continues to be accelerated by the same
stimulative causes—the great and insurmountable barrier to
the 'restoration to relations for interchange 1.4 productions with
these countries being still our adhesion to such protective re-
gulations.

()n Thursday the Town Council of Glasgow
adopted a petition to the House of Commons as
follows:

That your petitioners beg leave earnestly to call the at-
tention of your Honourable House to the distress which has
for a considerable time prevailed throughout. the kingdom,
in the different branches of mercantile and manufacturing
industry ; and they humbly submit to your Honourable House
.the urgent expediency of your taking into your eariy con-
sideration the tariff and import duties on foreign produce,
more especially the existing state of the Corn and Pro
laws, with a view to such an alteration in these laws as will
have the effect of extending the commerce of the country,
and increasing the comforts of the working classes.
These are encouraging. examples. In Glasgow
the distress is urgent. In twenty years the rate
of mortality has very nearly doubled; the diSease
which always prevails amongst the poor en-
dangers the lives and enfeebles the health of the
opulent, and the citizens only do their duty to
themselves and their country in demanding►
a revision of our tariff, and the abolition
of several onerous taxes. Their exertions will
second the labours of the Liberal Members
of the House of Commons, and in the end
effect the object desired. Too soon that
cannot be accomplished. The accounts from
the manufacturing districts say, that fewer and
timer hands are employed in the mills, and dis-
tress is increasing. Already the population is
much degraded. Their standard of well-being
has been gradually beaten down, till it has now
reached the level of the Hindoos. They cannot
sink lower, they can only perish. Their morality
has been degraded with their physical condition,
and all the evils of a retrograding condition
of society have already been inflicted on
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VICE and MISERY, by which Mr. MALTHusdesig-
natedthe giant agents for keeping down popu-
lation.

We have barely time or space to direct atten-
tion to the proceedings yesterday at that sink of

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, ie4i

corruption, the Sewers Court—a Court which, es
at present constituted, ought to hold its sittings
in Fleet Ditch, the better to hear " Great Torn"
of St. Paul's toll its funeral knell. Indeed, the
learned Commissioners seem to be apprehensive
of such a doom, for they wish to propitiate the
Church at the expense of the Dissenters, by
levying a tax on the one for the benefit
of the other. But the most amusing part of their
proceedings is, that, having at last emerged
into day, they cannot now recognise themselves
distinctly; each appears sofa?. gone, from having
navigated below so long, he cannot endure the
more searching atmosphere above ground with-
out great annoyance, and naturally feels, in the
words of the poet,

‘ Blasted with excess of light."
No matter; we hope the sunshine will do
one and all of them much good, and help
to infuse more salubrious air into the sewers
generally. Mr. ADEY, a Learned Commissioner,
if we mistake not, seems to be of the same opi-
nion; lbr, deriving his knowledge from St. Luke's,
according to the itenort—

Mr. A DEY considered that the difficulties they were placed
in was owing to their legal advisers; those who had drawn
up the draft of the decree seemed to have been anxious to
bitch the question altogether.
A COMMISSIONER—To what?
Mr. A DEY —TO bitch it, to throw it overboard.—( Great
sensation.)
Sensation indeed!—We wonder that the mud
larks, now the frost is over, did not rise up in
judgment at once, and bury such an ugly word
in the mouth of the learned civilian. The term,
though not over classical, is, we believe, regis-
trated in JOHNSON or TODD, or we should
have been afraid to touch it. But one thing is
quite clear, that the artist has displayed an
admirable knowledge of his subject, and
painted it in colours not to be mistaken.
-We wish him joy of his doings !
We have lately attended to the proceedings of
the Commissioners of Sewers at greater length
than usual, in consequence of Lord NORMANDY'S
Bill—a Bill which interests all the large
boroughs and towns in the manufacturing dis-
tricts; and we would . advise them one
and all to watch its progress, that they
nay not get into the same " slough of
despond," as the good people of London have got.
The Dissenters are naturally indignant at the
infliction of Church-rates ; but when they expe-
rience the working of the Sewers'-rates, as duly
administered in the metropolis, they will have
abomination superadded to extortion.

RE NICHOL'S PATENT.

The Paris Journals of Monday have all reached
us. We have pleasure in stating that they con-
firm the account of the disarming published in
The Sun of yesterday. We quote the article of
the Quotidienne, a Royalist Journal, on the sub-
ject
The disarming has commenced. Marshal Soult has made
to the Committee on the Budget a communication, from which
it results that the Budget of the Ministry of War, for 1842, is
to be reduced 23,000,000 f. This is a reduction of 60,000 men
on the general effective of the army. The motive for this
communication of the Marshal is declared to be an error of
calculation. The Marshal says he made a mistake. No, the
Marshal made no mistake. We affirm boldly that the Govern-
ment is disarming—this is the whole secret. The Govern-
inent disarms, and really as the Treaty of July 15 is acknow-
ledged by the Government to have been neither an insult nor
an act of treachery, but simply a manvais procede, as the isola-
tion of France has been declared in the Chamber to give
greater freedom of action to. France, we do not see how the
Government could justify its armaments in the eyes of foreign
Powers. The declaration of armed peace was but a delusion
practised by those who are resolved upon not going to war.
The farce of warlike policy has ended by an acknowledgment
that, as Europe would make no concession, it was for France to
give way. Ihe farce of an armed peace was naturally destined
to terminate by an acknowledgment that, as Europe would not
disarm, it was for Fiance to do so.
-We rejoice to find that the French Govern-
ment has plucked up spirit enough to avow its
pacific policy, and that it no longer has recourse
to subterfuges to deprecate the wrath of M.
TRIERS and his supporters. The Report of the
Commission on the Secret Service Bill indicates
a determination to assume an offensive rather
than a defensive attitude. This course is at once
the safest and the best. It will inspire Europe
with confidence, and rally round the banners of
the Ministry all that is honest and patriotic in
France.
The Journal des Dehats has a remarkably able
article on the peace and war policy, in which
the conduct of M. TRIERS and his partisans is
very happily denounced and exposed. The fol-
lowing extract from it cannot Mil to gratify our
reflecting readers :
There are but two kinds of policies in the world—the policy
of mutual concession, and the policy of extermination. The
peace of Europe has been maintained ten years by a system of
mutual concessions. Europe has borne much from France,
and France has borne much from Europe. Europe has suf-
fi red the dismemberment of the kingdom of the Low Countries,
guaranteed by the Treaty of 1815. Europe suffered the siege
of Antwerp and the surprise of Ancona. England has a it-
nessed the extension of our power in Africa, and our naval
feats in Ame, lea., without evincing jealousy. The other
Powers have seen France and England support Constitutional
Governments in Spsin and Portugal, without interfering. All
and each have sacrificed private interests to the great public
want of peace
Had France wished for war, she did not want for pretexts.
With pain we saw Austria intervene in the Roman legations.
With grief we saw Poland succumb in her heroic struggle.
We protested against the occupation of Cracow. At each
moment the opposition demanded war, but the wisdom of the
country stifled such cries. The country fully comprehended
that if we expected to make our own national point of view,
our wishes and sympathies predominate exclusively, the up-
shot would be, either that we should crush the world, or be
crushed by it. The policy of mutual concession triumphed
over. the policy that was exclusive and revolutionary. The
grand interest of European concord and peace triumphed over
secondary interests. '1 has been the policy of past Go-
vernments—a policy which M. Thiers has professed and
maintained ; but our new apostles of progress denounced
this system as one of cowardice. They know no means
but war and the sword. They affect to despi,e diplo-
macy, would cut every knot or dissolve it in blood. With
them every stranger is an enemy, every concession a trea-
son. They see no wisdom in the mutual respect and
concert of different Powers, and do not see that the
establi.hment of a kind of European tribunal for the mainte-
nance of peace is the greatest benefit of modern times. Not
to desire war with fury—not to seek to regenerate nations by
massacre, to admit that other countries have rights as well as
our own, this exposes a person to be stigmatized in the journals
of M. Thiers as a Prussian or a Cossack. M. Thiers sacri-
ficed the great interest of European accord to the secondary in-
terest of French views in Egypt. This is cared by his l arti-
sans sublime. M. Thiers has isolated France. How patriotic
he is ! France used to have al.ies; niers has alienated
them. What an excellent Frenchman ! M. Thiers has de-
cided that there shall he no loner European concert or alli-
ances, no more mutual sacrifices between countries no more
diplomacy, conferences, treaties. Each power will became
isolated, and cannon shall be the final decider. This is the
present policy of M. Thiers, brit it was not his policy when he
served under former Cabinet..

CABRERA has addressed a letter to the Minis-
ter of the Interior, praying that notwithstanding
the amnesty of the Spanish Government, the al-
lowances of pay and rations may be continued to
the Carlist refugees. It is not to be expected
that such a request can be complied with. If
the refugees will not return to their own country
they must seek support by the labours of their
heads or hands.

The Bill requiring a levy of 80,000 men of the
class 1840 passed the Chainber of Deputies on
Monday, by a majority of 220 against 15 votes.
On Sunday the KING reviewed several regi
meats of the garrison of Paris, in the Court-yard
of the Tuileries. His MAJESTY was enthusiast:-
cally cheered by the troops.
The S,ntinelle des Pyrenees of the 18th, has the folowing
news:—" Al. de Miraflores, formerly Amtetssador at Paris,
has arrived at Bayonne en his way to blade id. General
O'Donnell, who was Captain General of Valencia at the time
of the troubles in September, and Baron de Meer, formerly
Captain General of Catalon'a, have left Bayonne, where they
were residing, to-go to Paris.
" It seems that General Simon de la Torre, who was lately
appointed Commander -in-Chief in Biscay, has refused the
post offered him by the Government."

A letter from IToulon of the 17th has the following, post.
serii.t, which announces a fact which is not unimportant

"The Catholics in French Switzerland who have lately sus-
tained so severe a check, intend to leave their country ; most
of the families desired to emigrate to America, but it has
been represented to them that the expense of the pas-sage
would exhaust their resources, and that when they landed in
America they would have to travel two hundred leagues to reach
the land allotted them ; and it seems that they have been in-
. .
duced to resolve on settling at Algiers. Thus it is very proba-
ble that the first villages created in the Mitidja (and it is
hoped that the Chamber vote three millions for this pur-
pose) will be occupied by three or four thousand Swiss, wl.o
are excellent farmers, and have funds to establish themselves in
a suitable manner.—Le Commerce. _ _ _

Senors ARGUELLES, DAVILA, ROMERAL, MEN-
DIZABA L, MONTA OS, COLLA NITS, MORATE, V IGO,
MONZO, and General SANTEBAREZ ; and the
Senators CAMPUZANO, HEROS, and ARTIGOSA.
The following remarkable circumstance is re-
ported in the Eco del Commercio, of the 15th
inst. It would have been droll enough had the
steamer carried off the Spanish authorities:
Advices from Ealaga state that on the 7th a remarkable
event took place, which the Government no doubt noticed.
It appears that one of the French steamers of the Mediterra-
nean, lying at anchor in the port, had a large sum on board in
Spanish dullars, intended for Marseilles. The Intendant,
being aware thereof, in concert with the General command-
ing, resolved upon causing the laws to be respected relative
to matters of that nature. The French Consul iv a%
oppsed to the vessel undergoing an inspection. He
even went as far as to threaten that, a brig be-
longing to his nation, and at present in the harbour, would
fire, but these threats having been retorted in a suitable manner
the Consul ended by lending himself to the required inspection.
When every one was on board, and convinced of the correct-
ness of the information, the Consul prohibited the captain from
opening the sacks containing the money, and immediately got
into the boat and ordered the steamer to start. The operation
Vial so quietly done that the authorities were compelled to hurry
into the boat in order to avoid being taken to Marseilles.

ROLLS COURT-(TH/S DAY.

The arguments in this ca3e, which was opened on Monday
week, were resumed this moruin,r and concluded. It came
bef.re the Court upon a petition for leave to amend a specifi-
cation which had been duly enrolled.
The MASTER 'of the ROLLS deferred his judgment, in or-
der that he might have an opportunity of consulting with the
Lord Chancellor.
BAILEY V. THE BURGESSES OF CHORLTON-UPON-31EDLOCK.
The arguments in this case were then resumed.

THE LOSS OF THE GOVERNOR

FENNER.

The following is the account given by the mate Carter, of
the dreadful collision between this vessel and the Nottingham
steamer
After corroborating the Captain in his account of his sailing,
&c., about five minutes past two o'clock on Saturday morning-,
he says, We saw the lights of a steam-boat. It was my watch
on deck, and I immediately called the Captain. The steam-
boat came up at about a point and a half on our weather-bow,
we hawing at the time our larboard tacks on board. 'We
thought she was coming on head to us. We had no light but
that of the binnacle on the quarter-deck ; and, I believe it is
not considered necessary or prudent for sailing-vessels clear of
the land to carry a light. We waited as much as five or aix
minutes, to find out what way the steamer was really coming,
and then the Captain ordered the man at the wheel to put the
helm hard a-port, so as to give her a clear berth. If the
steam-boat had done the same we should have gone clear
of each other a long way—perhaps a mile. The Captain,
as soon as lie ordered the wheel io be put up,
went forwards to look out. I then looked over the larboard
side, abaft the main rigging. and saw the whole bulk of the
steamer. I said to tho man at the helm—" She is on board
of us " This was about a quarter past two o'clock. The
vessels came in contact, notwithstanding our ship paying off.
When the crash took place I heard the Captain call out several
times —" For God's sake save yourselves, the ship is sinking."
The j.bboom of the ship struck the funnell of the steamer, and
her bowsprit afterwards rested upon her. On the third surge
she gave, I believe, down she went, bow foremost. The taffrail
wa; the last thing we saw of her. She filled very quickly. She
had on board a heavy cargo, including a quantity of iron and
other heavy goods. The watch on the deck at the time con-
sisted of seven men, the Captain, and myself. All the others
on board were asleep below. The Captain also sang out to
the man at the helm to leave the wheel. His name was Mun-
roe—he was formerly mate of the Belvidere, came on board
to work his passage to America, and we intended to make him
second mate of the ship next day. All the men at first
went forward with me to the Captain, who was standing
between the night-heads, but they afterwards went aft as
the ship sunk, to be, as I suppose, on the higher part of her
hull. I stood some time, and attempted to go aft with a view
'of endeavouring to save my wife and others by lowering a
boat. She, however, sunk so fast that I was obliged to give
up the idea in despair. I left the captain, and went to the
starboard side. I stood there a few seconds, till the water
was perhaps two feet deep. as far aft as the mainmast,
and was fast gathering still further aft, her head being then
nearly under. I scarce know what afterwards occurred. I
got up somehow into the fore-rigging, and thence on to the
latloard foreyards, which then crossed the steamer. When
the ship sunk so far that I was from six to eight feet from
the steamer's deck, I let go, and dropped down amongst
some sheep. I lay some time rather confused, and did
not attempt to rise, as I thought I might become entangled
in a rope which passed over my shoullers, and as I
thought, was part of the bowsprit running rigging of the ship.
I then got up. The cry on board the steamer was, that
she was sinking, and I believe a passenger on board
lowered the boat left on the davits on the larboard side ; but
•she unhooked from the tackles when she touched the water,
and the painter not being fast, she drifted away from the ves-
sel. Alt the lights they could muster in the steamer were
lighted for some time. The engineers and others then went
below, and found that though she was leaky they could keep
her free. :he had her fore and aft sails and foretop sail set
at the time. I was on board about three-quarters of an hour
before I found that the captain of the ship was there. I had
seen my wife, who was a little sea-sick, about twenty minutes
before in her berth, and gave her a drink. The captain, when
I first saw him in the steamer, was without his hat, and on see-
ing him (informant) he said " Good God, is this you, is there
any of the crew saved ?" I said, "I do not know. I did not
know what became of you after I missed you off the ship's bow."
Her hulliwas under water before I got off. The foreyard from
which I dropped was broken on the steamer as she was going
down ; and also, I believe, the topsail yard, as our foretopmast
studdingsail-boom, which was rigged out at the time (the wind
having been for some time fair in the evening), was left on
the steamer's deck. I afterwards looked, but could see no-
thing of the ship or her masts. The last time I observed the
watch on deck, they were on the starboard side of the quarter-
deck. One man sung out, " For God Almighty's sake save
me !" I did not hear the others. I had a quantity of my
wife's and my own clothing and other articles on board, worth
about 501. All were lost. The foreyard of the steamer Not.
tingham was carried away, which, I think, shows that the ship
did not run directly into her. We now come to the Notting-
ham steamer, which our reporter (Liverpool paper) vi ited on
the evening of the day of her reaching port. She was brought
into the Clarence Dock, and was mums shattered on the star-
board side. Her paddle-box had almost entirely been carried
away, and part of the " skeleton" on the wheel—the cast-iron
work of the "spokes" being broken in pieces, and the beaten
iron rings of the wheel crushed up, almost close to the
vessel's side. She presented, indeed, the appearance of a
wreck, in the effecting of which it .is extraordinary
that no person on board was killed or thrust
overboard and drowned. Much of the upper timber
wa; reduced to mere match-wood by the collision. A boat
on the starboard quarter was cut in two, and ene part of her
only remained on deck. The after paddle-beam, a balk of
hard wood, of about twenty inches square (and which was a
main support of the box and wheel), is broken close to the
ship's side, and turned, in a diagonal direction, aft—held by the
toughness of the fibres from falling off, and even yet of suffi-
cient strength to support the weight of several persons upon it.
The breaking of the paddle-beam and the general shock broke
and deranged portions of the machinery, which put aside the
further application of steam; but the vessel was not left in
danger of foundering, unless, indeed, in the event of a severe
gale of wind and a heavy sea, which she happily had not to en-
counter.

It appears from the ship's books there were on board 52 men,
18 women, and 8 children, the greater proportion of whom were
Irish. Several others, making in all 107, were taken on board
after the list was made up. The following are a few particu-
lar; of some of the unfortunate passengers :
Mr. Henry Woods was from the neighbourhood of Lancaster,
in which place he has a wife, and some relatives in, we learn,
the iron trade. He was a fine young man, and embarked
merely with a view of visiting the United States, and returning
with an early vessel to his native country.
A young man, Mr. John Sinclair (not in the list), from the
neighbourhood of London, nephew of Mr. Cooper, of Lord-
street, Liverpool, was among-t those who perished. He had
purposed going out in the Siddons line-ship, but did not arrive
till ,he was under weigh.
William Thorns, a house carpenter, was on board. His wife
accompanied him to Liverpool and saw him on board.
The family of the Quayles ( four in number) were from the
north of Ireland. The head of them had before been in America.
Wm. Fitzpatrick, an agricultural labourer, had his wife, and
another female, and two children (one of them an infant)
with him.

P. Tully, who had with him his wife (both young people)
and a child, had been previously five years in Boston.
Mr. Johnson, from the county of Hereford, a practical
farmer, had also been in America, where, we learn, he was in
possession of about 200 acres of land.
Collins, one of the crew, sailed a few weeks ago in the. ship
Robert Lem which came in collision with a schooner in the
Channel. He escaped. He re-embarked in the Governor
Fenner, and was lost in her contact with the Nottingham.
There were nine young men, mechanics, from Oldham, who
took each a steerage passage.
There were also on board a family of the name of Reynolds,
of England, from a district near Oldham, corhisting of the fa-
ther, mother, and two children.

John Kelley (in the list) had with hini his sister Sarah,
(not, it appears, in the list. )
Catherine Morgan and Evan -Morgan, who haembarked,
left the vessel before she proceeded to sea.
The following is the list of the crew:—
William Shilstone, second mate, of Bristol ; Caleb Frazier,
cook ; William Reid, John Smith, John Webb, Frederick
Selkeld, John Monroe (late second tnate of the Belvidere),
William Collins, John Smith, David Pidgeon, George Duncan
Clark, and John Davies, seamen.

THE NEW INFERNAL MACHINE.

The following 'letter on !his hobby of the Times has
been addressee to that journal :
" Sir—l observe in your paper of this morning a long ac-
count of an experiment said to have been exhibited before Sir
Itaert/Peel and some of our most distinguished officers. I
hope I shall not be considered impertinent in submitting one or
two observations on a subject of such importance to the country
as that to which it relates.

" The power of exploding gunpowder under water has long
been known, and it never was carried to a greater extent pro-
bably than in the destruction of the loyal George last year;
but, from the description given of what took place on the occa-
sion to which I am referring, it would seem that gunpowder was
not the agent employed. That there are many other chemical
means of producing the same effect we all know : my object,
however, is not to inquire as to the means by which the effect
was produced, but to examine a little into some circumstances
noticed in the statement, on which I shall be glad to have a
little further information.

" Ist. It is stated that the inventor never it ent near the
workmen employed in the boat, in order that no suspicion
might be entertained of any combustible materials being
lodged in the hold of the vessel.' The French have a proverb,
qui s'excuse s'accuse.' I wish the inventor or his friend the
writer of the statement, had not put it into my head that com-
bustibles might be so lodged ; but as he has done so, I am
anxious to knew if the gentlemen who went on board actually
examined the vessel in order to satisfy themselves that it
was the case that no combustibles were lodged in the bottom.
" 2d. It is said that the boat was, soon after being put in
motion, ' struck just abaft the starboard bow, and instan-
taneously shattered into a thousand fragments,' and this
was produced by collision with an instrument afterwards
described as weighing only 181 b. Now, as this instrument
is also said to be so portable and so safe' as to admit of its
being kicked round a room when charged with its deadly
contents, I would ask, did any of the gentlemen present see
the instrument? and also at what rate was the vessel propelled
that. the collision should produce an effect not to be produced
by kicking the instrument round a room, or transporting it on
a mule's back ? or what is still more, how is it possible to be-
lieve that an instrument which is exploded by collision with a
vessel is to be projected so as to " destroy the strongest fort-
ress in Europe ?" One word more on a subject coming nearer
home to us in these quarters, and I have done. The writer
speaks of accidents lately occurring from the use of detonating
shells;* he evidently knows but little what accidents have oc-
curred, the cause of them, nr the manner in which those
shells are used. Two accidents only have occurred ; it is not
necessary to detail the circumstances ; they were in both cases
distressing ; but it is hoped, from the precautions since taken,
the same will not again occur.
" It is not the case that mast of the shells fired at Acre
burst before they reached their object, nor is it the case that
these shells are allowed to roll' about deck ; and no instance
has ever occurred of an accid;nt from them when being car-
ried in a common ammunition cart. So much, then, for the
information of the writer on a subject on which he pretends to
enlighten the public. The statement ends by a sort of threat
on the part of the inventor to carry the invention to some
other country. I congratulate him on the patriotism that gave
rise to sui.h an intention : I cannot compliment him on the feel-
ing by which it is evidently dictated, as being a disinterested
one.--I am, Sir, your obedient servant,

" TECHNITES."

" Arsenal, Woolwich, Feb. 22. 1841."
* Although experiments with detonating shells have re-
cently been made, no such projectile has been adopted or ever
used in the service.

MEDICAL REFORM.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

SIR—In your paper of Saturday last you say Sir F. Pollock
preseni ed a petition from the Royal College of Physicians,
praying that one test might be adopted in reference to the qua-
lification of all medical men. I think Sir F. Pollock pre-
sented a petition against Mr. Shawe's Bill (Medical Reform),
and principally on account of its introducing only one test,
perhaps its worst correction, as there are many interested, and
your paper is widely circulated about here.
I am, Sir, your's, &c.
Burnley, Feb. 23, 1341. A SUBSCRIBER.

The Sheriff of Roscommon has refused to con-
vene a meeting to suppnrt the Govtrament Registration
Bill,

EVEN ING EDITION.

MONEY MARKET and CITY NEWS'

FROM THE MORNING P&PWI OF THIS DAT.
TIMEE:,.—The premium on gold at Paris is 4/ per ralaoe
per °eon
which, at the English Mint price of 31. 17s. 101 d.
for standard gold, gives an exchange of 2.5. 26, and th_.l_
change at Paris on London at short being 25. 32i, it folio
that gold is 0.26 per cent. dearer in London than in Paris.
By advices from Hamburgh the price of gold is 424 per
which, at the English int price of 31. 17s. Hid 1. ounce
M
for standard gold, gives an exchange of 13.4/, and the exchiug!
at Hamburgh on London at short being 13.51, it follows that
gold is 0.53 p, r cent. dearer in London than in Hamburgh. ,
The pu!lic securities were again inactive, but the value 01
those of the English market improved a shade yrior to theell
of business. The jobbers are now in a measure occupied wit,
the arrangement of their accounts for the Consol settlernen
which takes place on the :15th inst. •; and although money 13
a.
little more in demand, it is nevertheless easy at from 51°
per cent.
A s
e mn,euremphasersoefdraetsoa latelutionsmreeelattinivgeetfo the report rGeplasorgte7cimhamrt hpoeroi
ti
Commerce and Manufactures These were to the effect 11!a:
although the present system of import duties might be simP",l
fled with great advantage, it was necessary to observe so.nuc.t
caution in modifying or repealing duties affecting -0:1
branches of commerce or manufacture as have long enejrY,'„
special protection. The idea was, that evidence ati yet aff
hnse:
on the subject was partial and incomplete ; indeed so 11!;-: the
as to render it expedient to resume the inquiry ; and wlsilc the
vropriety of regulating the tariff, so as to preduc
highest revenue from the lowest duty, was admitted, it was c ne
sidered expedient to maintain differential duties in favour a
British manufactres,, domestic and colonial agriculture, ate
fsheries. As fora the tropical colonies, it is observed that tit.°
peculiar circumstances in which they have been
cent social changes render any altera• ion of duties, by v01t,..
their productions would be affected, inexpedient at the Pam
sent time, -while it is also desirable that all restrictions T',it
their trade and intercourse, both with foreign nationS
amongst themselves, be removed. The concluding Hares
was for embodying the whole in petitions to be preseill of
both Houses of Parliament, praying for the appointment
Dirt
Committees
to conduct an impartial inquiry into the imp-
duties. p:aced by..ch
daY
CIIRONICLE.—The business in the English fundsrm.
was principally in connexion with the settlement of th
count, which takes ace on Thursday.
A further slight implprovement took place in the
irles7o,fritotillier
Continental Exchanges to-day, and the supply 4.1
ues rather to improve. The expectations announced It..eehi
City article yesterday, regarding the probable influx °oribe
into the country consequet,t upon the more healthy state
to be
exchanges, and the increase in our exports, are likely for
realized. Gold, although in small quantities, has, in fact' the
back to s
the last two or three weeks been finding its way at
Bank coffers, and if the Directors do not feel theraslevecur.
liberty to support prices by any expansive action Ott
tl.ll cow
rency, we have little grauud to apprehend that tkey the
be operating as st'llers nn the Stock Exchange. -Ow'',a u-
sist'e beingmsel v
e put
tting of the Committee on Banks of Issue, they must not
t iou
h uetalleti uponupontlieirtterdittalmp
; buthtewreistriugstaptpheearY
ale, of
find
bettA
agent er. times. Ai,oklers
letter has been received from the of the Wu-- di
in Chili, intimating that the Government had remitted fi't
to pay the next dividend on the ca ital of the bonds., with
worthy of remark that the ChilianpGovernment enuPeont,di-
their rejected offers of compromise for the arrears can Ito.
tion that they shall be allowed to raise a new LurnPeani,• sting
It was stipulated, we believe, by the contract for the sal
loan that no new one should be- euteted upon until a f°3
part was paid off. •
roo,m, and it is hoped now that the impro
SUN.—The Foreign Each:lves were .fira.er
this aft tempt 144
has bec cme confirrce I. The rate f,,r bills on Par, .istsel
1212,c to d !y; t and
inoant
ti at:vnabsu rag:
al
' 25f. t ► 60e. ; on Amstt rdam 12 3 to t.".-
transfer Consols realized 88f 005
lABucocenrodi
Bonds
Billsnvit itrheer
remained
ranli I,o!:n.du
taoat itoin6seg%.: atdsoliftnso3c4dtooß:u!itie:
rs scperaenßnd, anenniektonF;ls:to:so;l)EkriAceweadeissiiii.
firm at 166} ; and India Stock at 248. The nre4:ttbs
Ha7lf.hpeerer
wCaesnts
but a
at 9
limited to 9h7ufsiness
in
the
1 hrce-and- - Half I), r Cents. were at 97i i° -(l4'
Three per Cents., 89 to 88i ; and the New Three-a
u
Fotigni.,se
tub-
cities te-''ay, but still as lower utes wets geneta.'l,r•
mitted to the market was rather mute active Ihingli to
day. Portuguese Bonds were a shade lower, viz' Per
for the New Five per Cents., and 191 for tile libere-aviolt
;4' i Mexican at
18c2t4ivergeStoenaidts2r2eire
Active
both these woe tae Account price& •vr„P,-clsof
,om 1 __no
1837 at 2/4 ,
~„0• pt.
60), for _ money, and at a fall from 64 to 604 for st"--
Rel
()Peruvian at 16k to j-; and Buenos Ayiea at 261 h-• sock:
ite2anaiato ;
H Five per Cent.. were at a rise to 99f1 Da3!stialf Per
advanced to 77:1 and 78; and Dutch Two-and-a--
Cents. were worth .50k to 1
chaff 11/
There were
a few sales made in the Railway •
a slight decline upon the previous rates. Great 11 sol
were 24 to 23k, the New 10k to 11, and the lAild°,!
Birmingham
79 premium cx-dividend ; Brighton w":tial
and Edinburgh and Glasgow 51- discount.
Bank of Ireland Shares were 18} premium.' reofr
The affair of the awful loss cf the Governor Feolle- •
,„,
tinuesto excite much attention and discussion in lot
There
were no exports of bullion in the wee
Thursday list.
SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNAL

---
()From the Morning Chronicle.) r
" If it was just that the principles of the Relat theel
should he up: Fed to England, it was no less Jul tnorell
should he applied to Ireland. If the Refoim 11
only that which was their right upon the peel°
elypa
land, why should the-same rights Le de,:iA to chef
Could such rights be withlol,l without clang'"? berePe
were withheld, would not that be a fa'r Uoi°r,,.,
the people of Ireland should demand a repeal tL:A-e po° ;
gt that
ed Housethe c
ts or ef n
t rveliesnwdf;rjtnlh
sea mg that the interests of Eneland were 100I'`--, ttlhey
linntearedsi
ls° f
the
nions of ..e people Were attended to, whi,st io Ire (xis o
voice of the people was stifled ?" Such were the Iry
Lord Stanley, on moving the second reading of tejaipteji
Reform 1111. And now, attar nine years have 1044
attbiant n.;nwebaiticod
the same Lord Stanley comes forward, at the ddie
the party which he then denounced, to (1°1%00!
virtual repeal of his own measure ; to wrest foul yoole°'
the right conceded to England; to furnish the % one
in favour of the repeal of the union deprecated in undispd
speech; to stifle the voice of the people of lieri°oolble
provoke the danger which he then thought t°o j°rurseil
to be encountered. It is idle to conceal front :woe o
that an important crisis has arrived. Upon to 'PI
the debate which comes on this evening are stake gect ee
extent which almost makes us tremble when s'iOret. Osd
the nicely balanced state of pat ties, the peace.° if jr%
and the future destinies of the British empire. bcosi°"
Morpetb's Bill is rejected and Lcrd Stanlefe tj'" „i OW'
measure passed into a law, the die is cast. ~"" D;00:,
ward Ireland is hostile. The experiment or ,tufp sod;,;
cipation Bill is virtually pronounced a foil°lsod -
return made to the old system of governing ird late;
defiance of the wishes, and feelings, the
rests of her Catholic population. •t pro„ Or,
;
date of the Act of 1e29," to quote once th,
the words of the same Lord Stanley O'io !Mu
same ceca.iar, " the poi Wan had Leen laid d°lolatia•
eel gious distinctions had been done away in ref rib
If the House admitted the general principle of
lamer
and if it had admi ted that no distinction aqatkol,e6
e!,i.ted Le.eeen tie Church of England and th,eGaiat thef
upon bat ground ei.ll tl-ey tern round and say to Per
would net extend the tight of returning Menabe"thai
liaa.eot, because the Catholics must participaleisnl
tension 9 lf I his were to Le the eec, then he 01-d tot°
that there was a Cathelic cp..e tion left bellied, °eve the
sett.e., and that a broad political distinction be! revive
re igions still existed." And now it is seught t-f.eocioi
th s tJ cut down t.e eonst. t-opajar
of Ireland to a point which renders the name
Pbecags4
redr e ereation a mockery—and why ? avowedly Ye'
tie Catholics hare participated in the extol:all:0o?
Lord Mon eth's Ball has patlnced this effect. It fliitbfr
Iged its eppore.,ts to avow, what every one in tbe teforee
cit degree acquaL telstith the politi3l world knew .9 wrest
that fire real met se of their hostility is the desire isced bY
political power from the hands in which it was /lob'
the p.iticy of the Emote:potion and tl.e ReformootiCal
As far as the correeion of aburev, the Pre
of fraud and perjury, ar.: concerned, Lord MorPeto pet
is the bett r B.l'. This even the Tories alloZ,
thee is a fatal objection to it. It proposer, "Inirelentj-
honestly, to confirm the principle of popular ref a clear'
tion promited by tie Reform Bill; to place it oofor efer
intelFgiblc, and unassailable basis ; and to crush cep-
the heal es c f revisieg the old system of Oraogestesk, to
dancy. Lord ~`'t• raloy's Ball, on the other holds
pork
of
revive that system and to r.,model the practical leo fur
the Irish Ref, rat Bill, so as to decide the long bait the
political parer between the Orange atistocraeYe
Irish nation, finally and decisively in favour of) th of
What nonsense is it to a mangle about the p:ttY °L'A con.
Registration Courts, mid dispute on the strict leg!, that
struction of ambiguous clauses, when every one Iffrisas-
this is the real question ? What matter whetheritfk 0, is
chile be defined at 5/. or at 10/. ? The thing to r...havil
the practical result. The practical result contlrefoll
by Lord Stat ley, vthen he introduced the Irish VW'
Bill in 1832 ma*, that it would enable the ber°
party in Ireland to return, on an averages
The etat.4l re"'
about twc-thirds of the representatives. aFree"-rise.
stilt coctemplated by Lord Stanley and his Tory poti
chiles by their Bill of 1841, is to enable the Oracto tpe
to zeture, on an at erage, the two-thirds, and t° cote*.
Libercl party to one-third. The practical resent
riti°
nro
plated by Lord Morpeth is to preserve the arf t
which has actually existed under the operatioa,,_ /Awe
form Bill. The question lies in a nutshell. 'l°_`',,oi,tioo.
party in Ireland cumpai, C 8 the whole Catholic
,135°_?,,ed
no inconsiderable proportion of the largeottity this
['Haws and most influential Noblemen, a I: ',toter
middle classes, a formidable minority strong
, coloPutt
tants tl.emselves—in a word, at the very narty
tier), five-sixths f the Irish nation. The Oralig': rhe Ile-
a, adios ed
confined to the aristocracy and squireatc..ya -
constitut
happy nodal relations of I. eland, base alwaYs:obabi,aots
a di Valet and hostile caste, and to the if the
of a few towns and distai:ta in a single provin.(o__d Tor'
same proportion exi,ted Letweeo the Liberal o_
resat"
parties in England, and party spirit, inflamed by. cu it?
oot
factions of centulie, ran to the saute height, it AL_ Libe-
much to say that, wader the existing franchise
•
rats wcyld °turn the ey.fourths of the reprcse
the boroughs of Scotland, where a soniewbst sttler
present'
sion of pinks exists, the Liberals do tt ova sit
moment, although political feeling is, as coin: out. of
Ireland, dormant and inert, return twenty•tlo. „tools
twenty three of its members. If, then, the Iristn,
rt'f
Bill is to be made to work se as to deprive re•
ral party of the power. of; returning a ourrfaisihess'
oritir
dented
presentativer, as long as they constitute a dees ttv
of the nation ; and if this privilege is to be „ogee
avowedly on the ground of its extending potittc.Zrese
to Catholics, and enabling some forty or
olyang,
ionalla oft•
tholic Members to sit in the House of to
600 Protestants, what becomes of the prloacTu..,assie.r.
Emancipation Act, what becomes of Lord Sgaing_w_i_ with ID
tion that religious distinctions had been done e 7 stow,
Ireland? We till quote once more from Lord
the eonstitr
" If this," said the Noble Lord, in describing_ ifl,l
envy which he created by the Irish R. form
be better
is a dangerous constituency, it would