The Sun.
London, England, 1812-01-16 00:00:00

Dr. JOHN \\rums, called in, and examined.

Q. Is the state of his Majesty's health such as to
render him incapable of corning irtperson to his Par,
liament, or of attending to , any kind of public
business —A. His Majesty is incapable of doing
tit her.

Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's
bodily health His Majesty's health I
have thought somewhat improved since I saw his
Majesty first, -Which was the gth of Dauber; but
not wiibin the last week.

Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's
mental health ?—A. There is a very Teat degree
of derangement, and particularly bordering on insa-
nity, having very much tine m e symptom of insanity ;
at the same time rather unusualiy, and occasionally
with delirious characters:

.Cl, Adverting to the state of his 11/13jesty's men-
tal and bodily healib during his present incli,posi-
don, as far as it has come under your observation,are you of opinion, that his Majesty's recovery is
probable or improbable ?—A. Very inprobabie.
Q. Are you of opinion, that his Majesty's re-
covery is hopeless ?—A. No, certainly not, hope-
-les4.

Q. On what do you found your opinion tlyit his
Majesty's recovery is not hopeless ?—A. I think it
has not arrived at that fixed point, at which cases
generally are hopeless; it has not so decidedly that
fixed character of ins inity to render it hopeless..
Q. Do you expect that his Mijesty will recover ?
—A. No ; I do not expect that his Majesty will
recover.

Q. When did you (rave Windsor I—A. This
morning.

Q. What was his Majesty's state at the time
you {eft Windsor ?—A. A tery indifferent state.
Q. Is it worse than it was last week ?--A.• Yes;
I think it is certainly worse than it was last week.
Q. Has there been any aggravation of symptoms
within the last three days I—A. I think there hat ;
they have bordered more on the symptoms of de.
perltaps not to a greater degree than I have

seen since the gih of O&ober, but, as convaled
with ten days or a fortni4ht before, there was then
a better appeArarnee. From the
,9111 of Odober to
the 23d of November, 1 saw his Majesty only
three days.
Q. How often cti you visit his Majesty now ?
A.. I have been resident at Windsor ever since the
18th of November, with the interval of the last
week ; I returned on Saturday. • ' _

Q. There appears, in a repnrt presented to the
Rinse of Commons frOm her Majesty's Council, to
have been' the corre6tion of an opinion given by one
pf the Physcians in his first examination ;. were
you the Physician who so corieded your opinioh ?
A. I was.

Q. Were there any grounds upon which you
could form a different opinion from that which you
gave in your first examination, before the Second
took place in—A. I do not knoW, wish regard so my
own feelings, that I f.rmtd a, 'different opinion ;
but I found that I had not used a word with its pro•
per import, being perhaps in she habit of using the
word despair in a more light manner than I ought
to have do,.e : I t.d not mean 'that I did despair
(wally ; but one is perhaps apt, when speaking to
the friends Of a person who ask whether they shall
remain longer or no, or whether you despair, to
say, I conceive a person many recover, but I cannot
be without despair, or I cannot help despairing ;
but on healing read the worth I had used, " I can-
not help despairing," wish an emphasis laid upon
them, I was struck with them as conveying a
meaning much stronger than I intended. I had
not been in the habit of attending the Queen's
Council.

Q. .Did you mean more by aaying you
.despaired
of the recovery, than that you did not exped a re-
cuvety I—A. No, I did not.
Q. You attended the King on a former illness ?
A. Yes.
Q. Is his mental state worse now than occurred
at any..time dyeing those previous illnesses when
yau saw his. Majesty a—A. Very considerably worse
thani had seen his Majesty before. ,
a You stated, that you were called in on the
9th of• Odober ; has-your attendance, upon his
Majesty been pretty constant since that time
A.' From the 9th of October, I saw the King only
•to the ffith of October, and was called in again on
the t sth of November, since whicbl have attend-
ed his Majesty regularly. - -
,Q. Since out attendance became pretty constant,
have you ever witnessed any thing approaching to a
lucid interval in his Majesty's case ?--A. I have seen
several times in which the King could hold conver-
sation extremely well for a short time, but his Ma-
jesty was always liable to the disorder pressing nron
the mind again at any %moment. The King has
held certainly good conversations.
Q. Do these conversations appear toyou'to be .of
a favourable tendency ?—A. Certainly one' cannot
help having a hope from hearing those coicveraa-
tions,.but it. requires to get to a further advanced
point to be able to say that. it is really an amend-
ment ; it is often what takes place when derange-
ment is gradually ceasing.
Q. Then the derangement of the King's mind
is not such as to leave you without hope at any mo-
ment i—A. It had. yesterday much of a feverish
tendency ; - it was more difficult to interrupt the
King from the influence of disorder on his mind ;
but there is generally a capacity in the King,to an-.
swer any salt of questions.
Q. Since your attendance upon his Majesty, has
there, in your judgment, been any appearance of
progressive improvement I can hardly, so well
call it progressive improvement; as occasional ;
there were many days on which there was a great
degree of quiet that has taken place at different times
since the 23d of November.

Q. Is your opinion upon the improbability of his
M4jesty's te( overy as strong now as, it was on the
gth of October ?—A, It is.

Q. 110 you consider his' Majesty's disorder, In
general, nearest allied to delirium or insanity ?
A. For the most part, during the greatest part of
the time I have seen his Majesty in his present in-
disposition, it has.been nearest allied to insanity.

[Withdrew.
Dr. ROBERT DARLING WlLLlS,called. in and
examined.

Q. Is the state of his Majesty's health such as to
render him incapable of coming in person to his
Parliament, or of attending to any kind of public
business ?—A. His Majesty's state is not such as
to enable, him to come to his Parliament, or to at-
tend to any kind.of public business.
(1. What is the present state of his Majesty's
bodily health ?—A. The present state of his Ma.
jesty's bodily health is by no means good, though
it may be considered, generally speaking, better
than, under the circumstance of want of air and
exercise, might have been expeoled. This morning
his Majegy is in an extremely agitated and nervous
state, which has been increasing for some time past.
Q. What is the present state of his Majesty's
me;:tal health ?—A. The state of his Majesty's
health is wor,ie at present than it has been at any
time since his atiatk,

Q. Adverting to the state of his Majesty's mental.
health since your last examination before a Com-
mittee of the House of COIIMIOnti, are you now
of opinion that his Majesty's recovery is probable,
or improbable ?—A. Extremely improbable.
Q.Are you of opinion that his Majesty's recovery
is hopeless ?—A. I do not think it impossible ; but
I really hardly know how to apply the word hope-
less in.a medical sense, it is only applieable to a stzne
somewhere between extreme improbability and im-
possibility, but that is a state which is, so oxtrern,ly
difficult to ascertain, and in the greater number of in-
stances will be as transient, that I hardly know how
to apply the words. I do not think it impossible,.
but it is in my opinion ail but impos,ible.
Q. When did you fiist form your opinion, that
his Majesty's recovery was extremely improbable ?
A. I began to have a very indifferent opinion of his
Majesty's state, soon after the beginning of the pa-
roxysm in July; and as the symptoms have never-
given way in any respect, my hopes have continually
decreased.

Q. Is there any :hing peculiar in the aggravated
symptoms which have shewn themselves within the
last three days ?—A. Nothing peculiar; nothing