The Sun.
London, England, 1841-02-17 00:00:00

At Mr. Speaker's House,

NOTICES GIVEN AT TIIE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE.
TUESDAY, FEB. 16. 1. Manchester and Leeds Railway, Committee on Petition, post.
Potted from Monday 22d February till Monday 10 March.
2. Belfast Barbour,—Committee on Petition, postponed from
Thursday 25th February till Thursday 11th March.

MEETING Or MIDDLESEX

MAGISTRATES.

An adjourned meeting of the Maeistrates of the county of
Middlesex was held yesterday at the Sessions House, Clerken-
-21.1, when the discussion on the motion of the Rev. Mr. Trim-
L'e relative to the managemeet of the County Lunatic
l'An t
e , a Hanwell, was resumed. The question is one that
esso xcited great interest, and occasioned an unusually full at-
.l, dance of Alagistrates. Colonel J. Wood and Geo. Bysig,
t'..easq., the Members for the county, and nearly fifty other Magis-
-19 were present.
Zr. WITHAAI was in the Chair.
et„ Enblustns, the Deputy Clerk of the Peace, read a
orj°' the notice of motion given by Mr. Evart in the House
inotutußnts, for a Committee to inquire into the state and
..rgement of the County Pauper Lunatic Asylum at Hanwell.
• Ronti said that he would admit the value of the ser-
esaof the Visiting. Justices of the Hanwell Lunatic Asylum,
of leso those of Dr. Conolly, tor they had brought the affairs
.4,t_nr Asylum from a state of utter confusion among its
iis..-e:zeev.si.s,:inrvg ants, patients, and even accounts—( Hear, hear)
stooomethine- like a proper state; but in the Report of
Justice's which was then under discussion, they
much credit to themselves. Some of the ex-
t 11;1:us:its in :
their Report were a little too strong, particularly
dr% 4 °wing i—" Though no fair conclusion could have been
(if n as to its intrinsic value from any accidental instances
toe'alplre, seeing that accidents are not unfrequent where
toreninon is systematicy applied as the means of repressing
aevela ce, it is still moat gratifying and cheering to those who
elinusly watching the progress which this system is mak-
e, Hanwell, and who take a deep interest in its success
bee thing of national importance, to know that there has
Zlto occurrence of an untoward kind which could in the
ernedotest way be connected with the enjoyment of personal
for
pberysotnhe patients, nor any act of violence which called
t
ly restraint." He (Mr. Retch) thought that no im-
could have listened to the statement that had
st4,„,,l'ade by the Rev. Mr. Trimmer, and the explanation
SitisituentlY given by the Visiting Justices, without being
4ae ed that their explanation was satisfactory ; that it
tthleletely exonerated them, and that they were ignorant
toe" facts stated by the Rev. Mr. Trimmer, which were
Iht tied from them by the officers of the institution.
tiny e, thought that the language of the Visiting Jus-
t% 'st ;11 praise of the new system, was a great deal
feed 'en& and that the Rev. Mr. Trimmer was per-
t* jYt justified in ceiling the attention of the Magistrates
. He bad, however, been attacked for so doing,
be Canner that he certainly ought not to have been ; but
Initti.:llg,i;t the matter should not be referred to any Com-
te co' either of the Magistrates of the county or of a House
to i -ulre°49- What, after all, was there for any Committee
je neuire about? Was the Court not fully satisfied with the
aitreilies that bad alread been made, and the reply of the Vi-
t4ine,Jnotices to the chayrges that had been brought against
dreg Of the mass of those charges, ninety-nine out of a hun-
ts% '",‘" been comletey diroved. Even if the steer.ts
thettsetle, the factsp were l
unknspown to the Visiting Justices; and
dee, tbeas nothing, even if they (lid know them, that should in-
witil".e, Court to give up or relax the system of non-coercion
kelt fuieY bad adopted—a system which it was extremely M-
ettle ba carry out while the old officers, who were averse to it,
Visiti retained in the establishment. He admitted that the
but tilkg Justices of the Asylum had done a vast deal of good;
me, took too much credit to themselves in stating that
it wllea-eoercion system had originated with them, when
1:04,4„1,kn0wn that it existed at the Asylum at Northarnp-
atet:r.e, in the last eight months, only one patient had
theit'atieeted to any species of mechanical restraint. In con-
•!tae-i,,t,lte worthy Magistrate stated the Rev. Mr. Trimmer
his opinion, perfectly justified in bringing forward the
the "" then under discussion ; but still he thought, that after
ett,3:Planations that had been given no further inquiry was
li(eit.trY, and that, in fact, there was nothing left to inquire
egoe i• Sergeant ADAMS, in explanation, said the Visiting Jus-
tam 'Ad frequently admitted that the mild system did not onl-
y a with them, but existed previously in other asylums.
*.2 (the Visiting Justices) were but humble instruments in
therif out the views of their excellent physicians, and in so
tas4 the only inconvenience they sustained arose from the
Nth," in which it was opposed by the old officers of the insti-
the Unless the grossest deeeptions had been practised on
i'Clumittee of Visiting Justices, the scenes of violence
aud • , i'„e4 asylum would have been greatly diminished,
tit ed:had been, to an extent that was almost incredible.
14:-:"ien, the Learned Magistrate said, with considerable
tices
I.th " Strike hut hear. Censure the Visiting Jus-
teut .eir vain-doriousness if you like, say they are enthu-
do no
You think proper. Call them mad if you please, but
isti;;`ineddle with the mild system which they have adopted
▪ fietn till you have given it a fair trial.—( Hear,
atee/i a very long and stormy discussion, Sir J. LILLIE with-
Is amendment.
the b„,* Weees suggested the propriety of the Court leaving
reirs7, tter to be invested before a Parliamentary Committee,
Ahab to the notice which had been given by Mr. Evart.
'netwaet, approved of this suggestion.
was ultimately adopted, and the meeting then adjourned.

tv.
1,,,5t -.TING OF MIDDLESEX MAGISTRATES.—
' the eri,dllY, Pursuant to adjournment, a very numerous meeting of
• %pi, lagistrates of the county took place at Hicks's-hall,
tact swell-green, when the adjourned debate on the manage-
at tw.a,t'Hanwell was'
resumed. Mr. Witham took the chair
for .`,'" o'clock. A fter some objections, the notice of motion
Avyftl'°rnmittee of Inquiry into the state of the Hanwell
treat in, and the condition of the paupers as to their general
rem.lnent, given by Mr. Ewart in the House of Commons, was
Net, After an able speech from Mr. notch, Mr. Sergeant
Iltut on entered into a laboured defence of the conduct of Dr.
• bit in the course of which he took occasion to question
oni„elgeant Adams as to whether he had not, as was believed, corrected corrected the Report of the proceedings of the
tv,7lltrates on the last day of their meeting, and expunged
rles.;,‘is"lng that told against the management at Hanwell; for the
VisitfPers contained a full account of the explanations of the
;lag Justices, while every material thing said on the other
44.141)peared to have been sedulously excluded. Mr. Sergeant
Ittteri 3 Faye a short, but indignant reply to the charge—it was
Ras Y false. The discussion (for which we cannot find room)
dittereate ried on up to a late hour. The opinions expressed bj
adoilt„At Magistrates as to the most advisable steps to
.be
for, f.,sm Were various and conflicting. One advocated a motion
alltte"nnittee of the Magistrates, and another for a Corn-
tio4. rd the House of Commons, to inquire into the allega-
kihi "lon
that-:',.le by Mr. Trimmer. The Dean of Carlisle thought
',ha; r,`-'emmittee of the House of Lords would be thecbest,
el Wood proposed a properly qualified Medical om-
iltp:l„_te inquire into the practical working of the new system,
axe i'vrlY designated the non-coercion system, instead of a
v. rn
kof .LI
-ere th, restraints. However, unsuperable objections
tions against the adoption of any one of these propos),
Pen:, "ne general opinion of the Bench seemed to be that of
krtue, satisfaction with the present improved state of the tin-
' 'kb:me inmates of the County Asylum at Hanwell. The
sine S. terminated at a late hour in a motion for adjournment
le. "--Morning Chronicle.

LAW IN TELLIGgNCE.

SHERIFFS' COURT, FEB. 16.

Of'Cll443K V. DRE(Refere Mr. Under-Sheriff BURCHELL.)
IVE. EIGHTEEN GUINEA TEETH WAIL-
Thi RANTED "TO EAT'' A BEEFSTEAK.
bek.a action was 'brought to recover the sum of 151. lbs.
defog the balance of 161. 18s. for a set of artificial teeth ; the
of iimant having pleaded that she was only indebted in the sum
Sir aa., and that she had paid into Court.
deati. Prrensnoner stated.that in:this case Mr. Moggridge,
n
bre_st, of Old Burlington-street, was the plaintiff, and Mrs.
,aielise, a lady of fortune, residing in Compton-street, Bruns;
of jc,!are, was the defendant, and was called upon in a
the
The
Which iLearned Counsel having stated the facts of the case,
, kr t Proposed-to establish by evidence, called his witnesses.
• hi; iglu. addressed the Jury for the defendant.
1111 d lk•nn Hodges stated she was daughter of the defendant,
1-.1- lit
ftel Iht With hir in July to Mr. Aloggriclge. Her mother
• 401 a lew parts of her teeth left. Her mouth was pecu-
eousle examined her mouth, and spoke with great
iirece that he should be able to fit her " mouth."
itad`• HILL—Did he make any particular promise? Mrs.
(Legel"-Yea • he said she would be able to eat a beefsteak.—
tid ,
.„ gnter.
take I.* 'l4L—Has she done so? Mrs. Hodges—She had to
)augiluteerr teeth out before she could eat. a bit of bread.—(Loud
te tA4 • • ) Mr. Moggridge said he did not expect her mother
tiy If the teeth did not fit.
she PILL—Did she persevere ? Mrs. Hodges—Yes, but
Ith;:aid never swallow anything but a piece of sopped bread.
tetild I,ll4l—Could she speak? Mrs. Hodges—Yes, but you
bet sw.",a,rdlY understand her.--(Loud laughter.) She could
V 0;"ow when these teeth were in her mouth.—(A laught.)
kldr lelaarained—She complained the feud . got between he
e_110,4 -,rnee gums, and she could not turn it in her mouth.
"volt laughter.) She only had the teeth at intervals, and
tainuipeal, out at meal times.—(Excessive laughter ft)r some
take th-3') When she had the " teeth in" she was oblid to
tile% ie Nod out.—( Great merriment.) She could notewear
ahey,;:r a whole da • for she could not eat.—(A laugh.) If
80, ree-d,,- 4'04 she day,
not get through it.—(Laughter. )
, °1 a da—,. she would " wear" the teeth for two or three hours
J kHz •
Ake_ etunes not at all.
them
other evidence, Mr. PETERSDORFF replied, and
thek
oulitra-SsotcalFF, in his charge to the Jury, left it for
Derforro;al_ 3' whether the plaintiff had had the opportunity of
Tenth" in.g the contract he had entered into, and had the de-
The given the teeth a fair trial.
Jury found for the plaintiff for 151. 15s.

ARCHES' COURT. FEB. 16.
(Before Sir HERBERT JENNER.)
This w RIVES V. RIVES.
4%5n...:n RS a suit promoted by Mrs. Lavinia J. H. Rives
1821t..5t Alr. Anthony Thomas Rives, her husband, for a divorce,en
io ground of adultery. The parties were married in
t_4, and the cohabitation ceased in 1838, when it came . h
in wledge of the lady that the husband had had four children
11...! servant, who formerly lived in the family, after which Alr. ,
hililasuedatirely left his wife. There was no appearance for the I
0 SsiirrBll.THE XIII
vieE,lt T JENN E R pronounced in favour of the prayer
OFFICE or TAE JUDGE PROMOTED BY BGRDER
Th;s is • . V. SPEAR.
aloted b a suit in which the office of the Judge has been_pron--
themer y Air. Bader, the secretary to the Lord Bishop of WI
T__ agaMst the Rev. Mr. Spear, the perpetual curate of
Ile_Asoses baton; for uilt, as alleged, of habitual drunken-
ti, ~atrid that too while performing Divine service. The mate-
la'is I et* were reported at the sittings in Michaelmas term of
sit' Zetr, when the articles exhibited against the Rev. Mr.
space admitted, with a slight alteration, by the Learned
Afr.'",:, r rom this decision an appeal was promoted by the Rev.
"waro to
Thedt
"W the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council.
you, oof Sir Herbert Jenner was affirmed, and with
Theg
hearin The cause having been remitted back, now came on for
; .e
the r .wog of the evidence, &e., occupied the Court daring
ernainder of the day.
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bat
"*ItIAGES IN HIGH LIFE.—It is reported
for ti?louel Powell, of Nanteos, Lord Lieutenant of and M.P.
Ihta, Itieb,clantY of Cardigan, will he married in a few days to the
Nita briad"irs• Ackers, of Suffolk-lawn, Cheltenham. The gal-
,tit. iii'lgrourn elect is a 1 -er It is added that his rela-
' 10.4111' lor.Lewis, of Llanayuroo: (who was High Sheriff of t2ar-
t'4 fair 'n 1840-41) will be married about the same time to
Ltietiterteac"mPlished daughter of an eminent divine in

TRIAL

OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE
JAMES THOMAS EARL OF CARDIGAN,

IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS.
(YESTERDAY.)

[Examination of Sarah Dann, continued from The Sun
of yesterday.]
What followed next ?—These gentlemen came
towards them.
Did they come up to them I—Yes.
One came up to each of the others ?—Yes.
What was done then I—Each of the gentle-
men beckoned to took a pistol.
You saw pistols given to them I—l did.
When the pistols were given to them where did
the gentlemen who had been kneeling down go
to ?—They stood a little to the right of them.
What happened then 1-The gentlemen turned
side face and apparently fired at each other.
Did you see the pistols at the time I—l did.
'Vas it a sunshiny day—did you see them
glistening 1-1 did.
Did you give information to your husband 1-1

did.
When was it that you gave the information to
your husband—before the pistols were fired ?
Before the pistols were fired I thought they were
about a duel, and after one of the pistols were
fired I called to him just outside the gate.
When was the time you called for your hus-
bandl—When he was advancing towards them.
What happened after you saw the first shots
fired I—l saw one gentleman advance towards
the other gentleman, and take a second pistol as
soon as the first pistol was fired.
Did they both fire a second time I—They
Were they standing in the same place
when they fired the second time, as when they
fired the first time I—Yes, Sir.
Did you see your husband go up to them ?
I did.
Did you afterwards see all the party come to
the mill together?—No, Sir; I saw two come first.
Which way did they go 1--The
,gentleman
w
that was wounded and the one that as attend-
ing him.
How did you know he was wounded 1-1 saw
them unfastening his clothes.
Where was he when you saw them unfastening
his clothesl—Standing where he was.
What—when the shots were fired I—Yes.
Several Peers here stated that they could not
hear a single answer that the witness gave, and
the short- hand writer read several of the pre-
ceding- questions and answers.
Are you quite sure the gentleman whose
clothes you saw unfastened was one of the gen-
tlemen who fired the pistols ?—Yes, sir.
Now when this gentleman and another came
to the house did you give them anything, did
they ask for anything ?—I was not in the house
when they came first.
Did you afterwards give them anything I—l
I gave them a basin of water and a towel.
Did they go into a room together I—They did.
Did the other gentlemen afterwards come to
the house I—They came into the yard.
Did your husband come with them ?—He
came with one ; the other two comic a little be-
fore him.
Who was the gentleman he came with 2-1
was told it was Lord Cardigan.
See if you see him before you.—That is
the gentleman (pointing to the prisoner).
Cross-examined by Sir W. FOLLETT—I am not
quite sure whether I understood you correctly.
Where were you during the transaction?—On
the stage.
During the whole of time I—During the whole
of the time.
When did you first go upon the stage in the
morning ?—I went when I was called.
Who called you?—My little boy.
Do you know what time it was at all ?—About
five o'clock in the afternoon.
Did you remain on the stage during the whole
time the wounded gentleman came to your
house ?—I did.
Now, observe—you and all the witnesses be-
fore you have said that the distance from your
house to the spot was two hundred and twenty
yards, has that been measured ?—I think it has.
• Could you at the distance of two hundred and
twenty yards see the persons knocking the pis-
tols I—Yes.
What do you suppose to be the distance from
which you arc standing now to the end of the
House?—l should not have thought it was more
than one hundred yards when I first saw them.
You are speaking now of Wimbledon Com-
mon. But you say it is two hundred and twenty
yards ?—I have been told so.
Well, at a distance of two hundred and twenty
yards, could you see persons kneeling and
knocking pistols ?—Yes, I could.
Could you distinguish their features could
see their countenances.
Can you distinguish the countenances or fea-
tures of any gentleman standing at the bottom of
this House 2-4 could see whether they were red
or pale.
Can you see whether the gentlemen at the
bottom of this House are red or pale ?
(Laughter.)—Yes, I can.—(Renewed laughter.)
Are you quite sure of that? Can you distinguish
whether the gentlemen arc red or pale, at the
bottom of the House ?—I can see better on the
Common, Sir, where I am more practised.
You can see better in some places than an-
other, can you ?—Yes, Sir; I have been a good
many years on the Common.
Therefore that's the place where you see best,
is it?—(Laughter.)—lt is.
Now on the Common where you see best can
you distinguish the features of gentlemen 200
yards off, and whether their faces are red or pale?
—They looked to have red faces in the sun.
What, all the gentlemen had red faces, had
they?—(Laughter.)—No, not all.
How many had red faces—can you tell 1—
(No answer.)
Now, pray who has been telling you this story,
or who has been examining you—have you never
been examined as a witnessl—No.
Were you not before the Grand Jury I—No.
You were not I—Oh yes, I was.
You were ?—Yes.
Who desired you to go before the Grand Jury ?
—I was subpoenaed.
Who subpoenaed you, do you know I—l forget.
Do you know who was conducting the prose-
cution at the time I—l believe Mr. Hobler was
the gentleman.
Was it he that subpoenaed you ?—(No answer.)
When did he subpoena you I—The subpoena
was brought to my house.
And you then went before the Grand Jury ?
Yes.
Were you not examined by any one, before
you went before the Grand Jury•l—No.
By no body I—No, Sir.
You are quite certain, are you; recollect your-
self ? Were you examined by no one, before you
went before the Grand Jury?—No, Sir.
No one at all I—No.
Then, do I understand you to state that the
first time you gave any account of what you saw
was before the Grand Jury ?—Yes.
Are you certain of that ?—Yes.
Were you not examinedbefore the Magistrates?
—No, Sir, I was not.
Were you examined more than once before the
Grand Jury ?—I went in twice or three times in
one day.
Giving the same account over and over again,
I supposel—Answering questions they might ask.
Have you been examined at the Home-office
by Mr. Vizard ?—I have.
Were you subpoenaed by him to attend here?
—I had notice.
Had you no subpoena?—No.
Were you all examined together ?—Separately.
In the presence of one another I—No, Sir.
You were called in separately, were you?—Yes.
Then what you stated was taken down in writ-
ing, was it I—l don't know that it was.
Was there no one there writing at the time ?
There was a gentleman writing.
That was last week, I believe, some time ?
Last Saturday.
Now to come back to the transaction on the
Common. You say you went upon the stage, as
you were ordered. Who ordered you ?—My son
called me.
Did not your husband give you directions 1—
He sent the boy.
Was your husband on the stage when you
went there ?—He was.
Were you told to watch ?—Yes.
And to give notice to him?—l was told to
stand and see what the gentlemen were doing.
Were you told to give notice to him as soon as
you Oiscovered they were going to fight a duel ?
—He left me there.
You must answer my question—were you told
to give notice to him as soon as you discovered
they were going to fight a duel?—He told me to
watch what they were about, and he wouldbe there
again directly.
Then he did not give you notice that they
were going to fight a duel ?—No.
Did you give him any notice at all I—l called
to him.
• If I understand you, you did not call on him
till after the shot was fired. Is that so ?—He
went from me directly he told me he suspected
what was going on.
(The last answers of this witness not having
been heard in the House, the short-hand Writer's
notes were referred to.)
Did not you call to him until after the shots
were fired?—No, I did not.

Did you say anything before the pistols were
fired ?—Yes ; I said I thought I saw pistols.
Did you speak to your husband before he
went down ?—No, I did not.
Did you, after he was gone down, call to him at
all when the shots were fired?—Yes. After the
first shot was fired I called to him.
After the first shot?—Yes.
Very good. Did you hear the report of one
pistol or of two heard the reports of two.
Were they close together?—Very nearly.
What do you suppose was the interval between
the firing of the first pistol and the second ?
It was a short time.
I understand you heard two shots. What
was the distance ? Were they close on each
other ?—I heard the first when my husband was
on the bridge.
How soon after was the other fired, was it in
the course of a minute or so ?—lt was just after
the second firing had taken place.
Do I understand you to say you saw the pistols
in the hands of the gentlemen at that distance ?
—Yes, I did.
And they fired directly?—Yes, when the pis-
tols were put into their hands.
Did you know any of these gentlemen before ?
o.
Have you ever seen the Noble Lord sitting
here before that day ?—No, never.
Did you see him before the Magistrates —Yes,
_

I did. -
Have you seen any , of the other gentlemen
before that day?—No, I have not•
The cross-examination of the witnesses here
closed.
Mr. WADDINGTON observed that he had no
further questions to put.
The proceedings were here suspended for a few
minutes, during which the Earl of Cardigan re-
tired from the bar.

Oa the return of the Earl of Cardigan to the
bar,

Sir James Eglinton Anderson was called and
examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL.
What is your profession ?
The LoUD 111G1I STEWARD—Sir James Ander-
son, from what has passed elsewhere I deem it
my duty to inform you that you are not bound to
answer any question that may tend to criminate
yourself.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—What is your pro-
ession ?—A physician.
Where do you live ?—ln New Burlington-
street.
Are you acquainted with Captain Tuckett?—l
roust decline answering that question.
Were you at Wimbledon Common on the 12th
of September last ?—I must decline that question
also.—(Laughter.)
Were you on that day called on to attend any
gentleman who was wounded ?—I must decline
that again.—(Laughter.)
Can you tell me where Captain Tuckett lives ?
must decline answering that question.
Has Captain Tuckett any house in London ?
I decline answering that question.—(Laughter.)
When did you last see Captain Tuckett?
Sir W. FOLLETT—The witness having declined
answering questions, I apprehend it is not right
in the Attorney-General to put circuitous ques-
tions to him.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—You decline an-
swering any question whatever respecting Cap-
tain Tuckett?—l decline ansiverino• any question
that may tend to criminate myself.
And you consider any question respecting Capt.
Tuckett may tend to criminate you ?—Possibly.
The witness was then desired to withdraw.
John Busain was then called and examined
by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL.
Are you an Inspector in her Majesty's police ?
—I am, Sir.
Where were you on the evening of the 12th of
September?—On duty at the station-house at
Wandsworth.

Did any person arrive at the station-house at
that time ?—There did.
Who were they ?—A post- chaise drove up to
the door at a quarter to six in the evening, and
two gentlemen got out. One rapped at the
door. I went to the door and perceived it was
his Lordship. I bowed and asked his business
there.

Was that the Earl of Cardigan ?—lt was, and
there was another gentleman with him who gave
the name of Capt. '.l-ohn Douglas. _ _

Was Dann, the Wimbledon miller, there ?—I
did not see him; I bowed to his Lordship.
Had you seen the Earl of Cardigan before ?
No, but I saw he was a gentleman.
Did he say anything to you ?—Ho said, " I am
a prisoner, I believe."
What did you say t—l said, " Indeed, Sir, on
what aveount?"

What did his Lordship say ?—The door was
open, and his Lordship walked in. His Lordship
saiet " I have been fighting a duel, and I have
hit my man, but not seriously ; I believe slightly
—a mere scratch across the back," and his Lord-
ship passed his hand across his back this way.—
(The witness passed his hand across his back).
His Lordship also looked over his shoulder and
said, " This sentleman also is a prisoner—my
second, Captain Douglas."
Did you see anything more then ?—His Lord-
ship passed his hand behind him into his pocket ;
some cards fell upon the floor • he presented me
with one. When I saw the address, " the Earl of
Cardigan, 11th Hussars," I alluded to the duel
again, and said, " I hope not with Captain Rey-
nolds." The Noble Lord appeared indignant
and said, " Do you think I would fight with an
officer of my own 7"
The short-hand writer was asked to repeat the
answer. He read it, "Do you think I would
fight with an inferior officer ?"—(There were
loud cries of " No, no.")
The Lord HIGH STEWARD desired the witness
to repeat the question.
Witness—To the best of my recollection his
Lordship's reply was, when I mentioned the
name of Captain Reynolds, " No ; do you sup-
pose I would fight with one of my own officers?"
These were his words to the best of my recollec-
tion.

By the ATTORNEY...GENERAL—WM any pis
tols produced to you ?—There were.
From whom did you receive them ?—From
Dann, the miller, who stepped in after his Lord-
ship and Captain Douglas.
Do you produce those pistols ?—I do. These
are the two cases; they have not been out-of
my possession since. Those his Lordship c' aimed
are marked with his crest. The other case has
never been claimed at all.
Have you had them in your cusdody ever since?
—I have.
The pistols were produced, and seemed to cause
considerable sensation.
How long did the Earl of Cardigan remain at
the station-house ?—No longer than till I had
taken the charge. I took his own bail for his
appearance on the Monday morning.
And the same by Capt. Douglas?—Yes.
And they did appear ?—They did.
Did you take Capt. Tuckett into custody ?—By
order of the Magistrates, I did.
When ?—When he appeared Wore the Magis-
trates, on the 14th Oct.
Did he give his name at that time ?
Sir W. FOLLETT—Was Lord Cardigan present
on that occasion ?—No ; he then stood commit-
ted by the Magistrates.
Was he present I ask you, Sir ?—No.
A gentleman appeared before the Magistrates
on the 14th October whom you had taken into
custody ?—I had not then taken him into
custody. '
Now, Sir, attend to the question and answer it.
Were you present on the 14th ?—I was.
And Lord Cardigan was not?—He was not.
No* attend to some of the answers you have
given in your former examination. You were pre-
sent before the Magistrates on the 14th; were you
examined before the Magistrates two days after
the event took place ?—Yes, after his Lordship
was in my custody.
On the 14th of September ?—Yes.
Were you examined after that before the Ma-
gistrates ?—Yes.
When was that?.—On the Saturday following.
Were you examined a third time ?—Yes.
Upon oath each time ?—Yes.
Now, Sir, I ask you upon tlitaloath you have
taken, did you say one word On the two former
examinations about Lord Cardigan saying that
he had hit his man?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—My Lords, I ap-
prehend that that question cannot be asked un-
less the depositions, which no doubt were taken,
are put in.
The LORD HIGH. STEWARD—Witness, wasyour
evidence in the first instance taken down in writ-
ing ?—No, not all ; the Magistrate saying his
Lordship's expressions were irrelevant to Ethe
matter.
Sir WM. FOLLETT—NOW, Sir, I ask you upon
your oath, whether you ever said one word upon
the two first examinations about Lord Cardi-
gan's saying that he had fought a duel and had
hit his man ?
The ATTORNEY.-GENERAL...—My Lords, I must
again repeat my objection.
The LORD HIGH STEWARD—Sir Wm. Follett,
is there any objection to the putting in of the
depositions ?
bir WM. FOLLETT--My Lords, it is impossible
for us to say whether there are any depositions,
or, if any, what they contain. We understand
that the Clerk to the Magistrates has been sub-
mimed for the prosecution and he has refused to
give us any information.
The Anoway-ezNEJtArr—M7 Lords, we can