The Sun.
London, England, 1847-04-24 00:00:00

r Lord JOHN RUSSELL was really exceedingly sorry to
' trouble the House with many observations on this subject, and
after the statement which he had himself made last night, and
after the statement of the Right Hon. Baronet, the Alember
for Tamworth, he should, but for the speech which had just
been made, have considered that it was totally unnecessary to
enter into any explanation of the views of Government on the
subject of education. He did think that the statement which
bad been made by the Marquis of Lansdowne, on the introduc-
tion of the measure, would have entirely set the matter at rest;
at least so far as the Wesleyans were concerned. But the Hen.
Member for Bath (Mr. Roebuck) bad raised a creature of his
own imagination. He seemed to suppose that the Wesleyans
had come to a decision, that the Government had never con-
templated the granting any assistance to,the Roman Catholics
and had represented that its several members had evinced
an elastic conscience in the proceeding which they
had now adopted. But without the least reference
to the transactions of the present year, he might refer to the
year 1839, when he had put forth the principle that Roman
Catholic schools ought to be established. The principle had,
indeed, been adopted in 1833, and the assertion, therefore, that
they had never contemplated the establishment of such schools
was a perfect absurdity. In 1839 he saw that public opinion
was opposed to him on this subject, and he had endeavoured to
' overcome it, but in this he was mistaken, and had determined
therefore to wait until a revulsion of feeling should occur, and
the time should come when the measure couli be carried with
effect. Ile had said that public opinion would come round, and
that the opportunity would occur when the schools would be
established. He had repeated this (minion last night, and he
did conceive that the whole question had been settled by the
division to which the House had come last night. The notes
which be had read were, he conceived, amply sufficient
to prove that he had always contemplated the establish- '
ment of Roman Catholic schools. —( Loud cheers.) But
it had been represented that he had first seen a Roman
Catholic Bishop, and then had refused to act upon the decisions
at which he had then arrived. He had certainly seen a highly-
respectable Roman Catholic Bishop, and had stated to him that
in the event of the question being raised, that nothing should
be done without having a consultation with him. But in reply
to the observations, that he had refused to meet Dissenters, he
might remark, that he had lately seen two deputations from
Leeds, and that he had, in addition, seen a great number of de.
putations, but these deputations cccupied a great quantity of time
—( Loud and continued cheers)—and the affairs to which he
was obliged to attend, necessarily called for his consideration.
—(
Loud cheers.) The motion of his Hon. Friend depended
upon a point on which a very small portion of the debate had
turned. And he regretted this, for if it had been otherwise
the House would have more rapidly come to a decision.
—(
Hear, hear, and cheers.) In 1833, he had proposed grants to
the National Society, and the British and Foreign School So-
ciety, and he believed that the Right Hon. Baronet the Mem-
ber for Tamworth was quite right instating last night, that the
Wesleyans had no objection to the diffusion of education among
the Roman Catholics. But stripping this question of all the
difficulties by which it was surrounded, he could never agree to
the assertion, that the instruction was to be altogether of a
secular character. He had hoped that this measure would have
put an end to religious disputes.—( Cheers.) He had for many
years been a member of the British and Foreign School So-
ciety, and that society had never permitted any instruction to
tie given except that which was founded on the Bible.—
(Cheers.) As his friend, William Allen, had stated, the
British and Foreign schools were the schools for all,
for he believed that no man desired instruction
who did not wish to be taught the principles of the Bible.
Therefore if his Hon. Friend the Member for the Tower
Hamlets persisted in his motion he would deprive the dissent-
ing body of a grant of 100,0(101. per annum.
After a few words from Mr. HARRIS,
Mr. HOWARD complained that the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government had been guilty of a want of courtesy
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vious to the 19th inst., while at the same time he had already
granted an interview to Mr. Jabez Bunting and the Wesleyans.
He should most certainly vote in favour of the motion of the
Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets, because he wished to
see justice done to ail classes of the country.
Mr. ACLAND explained.
Strangers were then ordered to leave the gallery, and the
House divided, when there appeared— -

RAILWAY COMMITTEES,

valuable. About 50,000 quarters of corn are now annually
sold in Sleaford market, and the area from which it is drawn
is about 98,000 acres, of which about 65,000 are at present
under the plough. The corn sold consisted of wheat, barley,
oats, and beans. '
On the requisition of the Chairman,
Mr. West produced a copy of the estimates on which his
evidence was given, and from it he stated that the extent of
land actually under tillage is 63,640 acres, leaving 4,120
acres in fallow. For these acres, on the usual calculation of
12 bushels per acre, there would be required for them 253,440
bushels, or 4,424 tons. This, of course, is beyond the amount
made in the district itself. In addition to this manure, there
would be a large quantihr of oil cake brought into
the district. At present the price of wheat at Sieaford is two
or three shillings a quarter lower than it is at Newark, and
if these branches were made, the produce would not only in-
crease the amount of the produce, but enhance the price, and
give facilities for carrying it to distant markets. Lynn is at
present a large import place, but the linseed cake comes
chiefly from Hull and Gainshorough. Many of the crushing
mills are on the banks of the Trent. At present it comes by
a circuitous route, and costs 12s. a ton for carriage ; while by
the proposed railway of the Direct Northern Company the
distance would not be more than 40 miles, and the expense
not more than five or six shillings.
After the conclusion of Mr. Sergeant Wrangham's exami-
nation in chief,

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-(YESTERDAY).
GROUP I.

The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of
the schemes comprised in this group re-assembled, at the usual
hour this morning in Room 30; Mr. W. 0. Stanley in the
chair.

Mr. Sergeant CLARK inquired whether the witness was not
a traffic taker for the London and York Company, to which
he replied that he was not so, but bad been engaged to esti-
mate the agricultural produce of some of the districts through
which their line was to pass. There are at the present mo-
ment several crushing mills at Nottingham, bat the bone
manure he believed to come from Newton and the Gainsbo-
rough d strict. After much further cross• examination as to
the probably increased value of the land from the intended
line, to which Mr. Westrephed that he believed the Direct
Northern to be the best line, Mr. James ascertained that
the line would pass for three or four miles through the Mar-
quis of Bristol's property. In the witness's opinion, the district
north of a line, drawn west to east from Sleaford to Newark,
was much more productive than that south of it, and till-
communication would give the facility for getting north-
wards. The distance between Gainsborough is about 43
miles, and this line will shorten it by about two miles. Bos-
ton is of no use for the supply of seed cake, as it never came
there. Much further cross-examination ensued on the several
capabilities of Lincolnshire for agricultural produce, and the
opportunities which the respective lines of the Direct Nor-
thern and the Ambergate Companies would give for its trans-
mission.
After some further evidence the Committee adjourned till
Monday.

For the motion
74
Against it
Majority ... -136
The House then went into Committee, and the vote was
agreed to.
AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS BILL.
The Earl of MARCH objected to the funds for this Bill
being taken from the county rate. He would not cease to
oppose such a course ; and he thought that the expense should
fall upon the consolidated fund.
Mr. MILES supported this view of the question.
Mr. FINCH thought that much mote would be saved by
the Right Hon. Gentleman taking the discussion upon the
second reading of this Bill ; there were so many objections
to the Bill, which he thought would by no means answer the
purposi for which it was intended.
Mr. HENLEY trusted that the Government would consent
to the postponement of this measure until the Members were
better informed as to its nature, and the way in which it was
proposed that it should operate.
The Bill was then postponed.
The Highways Bill was then read a second time.
'The Factories Bill was then postponed until Monday next.
The report of the Naval Prisons Bill was brought up and
received.

rnt SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, APRIL 24, 1847

Trevor Chute to be Major, by purchase, vice Bigge ; Lieut.
Thomas Frederick Hill Alms to be Captain, by purchase,
vice Chute; Ensign Francis Chute to be Lieutenant, by pur-
chase, vice Alms; Edwin Fletcher Foster, Gent., to be En-
sign, by purchase, vice Chute, April 23.
73d Foot—Ensign William Nash to be Lieutenant, with-
out purchase, vice the Hon. W. J. G. Chetwynd, killed in
action, Jan. 12, 1847 ; Sergeant-Major William Burnop to be
Ensign, without purchase, vice Nash ; George Horsey Wad
dington, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Salter, who
retires, April 23.
86th Foot—Lieutenant William Henry Howard Ellison,
from 17th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Beresford, who ex-
changes, Jan. 30.
95th Foot—Captain James Charles Rouse, from 3d Foot, to
be Captain, vice Cobbe, who exchanges; Alexander James
John Macdonald, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, vice
Smith, deceased, April 23.
Ride Brigade—Major-General Sir Henry George Wakelyn
Smith, Bart., G.C.8., to be Colonel Commandant of a batta-
lion, vice Lieutenant General Sir Dugald Little Gilmour,
K.C.8., deceased, April 16 ; Captain John Hamilton Esten,
to be Major, without purchase, vice Capel, deceased, April 14 ;
Lieutenant Joseph Wilkinson, to be Captain, without
purchase, vice Gibson, killed in action, April 12 :
Lieutenant Charles Jahn Woodford, to be Captain,
without purchase, vice Esten, April 14 ; Second Lieutenant
Charles Edward Barry Baldwin to be First Lieutenant.
without purchase, vice Elliot, appointed Adjutant, April 23 ;
Ensign George Horsey Waddington, from 734 Foot, to be
Second Lieutenant, vice Baldwin, April 24; First Lieutenant
the Hon. Gilbert Elliot to be Adjutant, vice Wilkinson,
promoted, April 23.
Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Southampton.
John Paulet Marquis of Winchester to be Deputy-
Lieutenant; Lancelot Archer Burton, Esq., to be Deputy
Lieutenant; Horatio Francis Kingsford Holloway, Esq.,
to be Deputy-Lieutenant; Thomas Robbins, Esq., to be
Deputy-Lieutenant, March 31.
• Commissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Midlothian.

Edinburgh Regiment of Militia—Ensign Henry S. Pater-
son to be Lieutenant, vice Shaw, deceased; Charles James
Lyon. Gent., to be Ensign, vice Paterson, promoted. April 10.
Commissions signed by di! Lord-Lieutenant of the County