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London, England, 1847-03-08 00:00:00

Conynghala O'Neil

Avonmore Condly, H.
Lorton Cole, H.
Beresford Chapman, B.
Fingall Gort Corbally, M. E.
Shannon Guillamore Darner, G. Dawson
Mornington • ---- Fitzgerald, E. B:.
Arran De Ros French, F.
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Courtown • Dunsany Ferguson, R. A.
Howth Farnham (for 3d resolution)
Mountcashel Riversdale Grogan, Edward
(fer resolutions 3, BB maine Grattan, Henry
4., and 5) Clonbrock Gore, W. 0.
Enniskillen Rossmore Gore, W. R 0.
Erne Cremorne Hatton, V. F.
Desart Crofton (for 3d, 4th, and sth
Clonmel Wallscourt resolution)
Clare Clarnia Hamilton, Geo. A.,..
Leitrim Castlemaine Hamilton, J. H.,
Lucan Down es Hamilton, ClaiNe
Castlestewart Tem plemore Lefton Anthory
Donough more Carew Maxwell, J. P.
Caledon De Freyne Martin, ThoriLas
Limerick ' Stuart de Decies ' Newry and Morn°
Clancarty Blayney O'Brien, Corneliva
Bosse Monteagle of O'Brien, John
Charleville Brandon O'Ferrall, R. M.
Bantry - Shirley, E. P.
Glengall Adare ' Shirley, E. J.
Stradbroke Bernard Shaw, , Frederick
Dunraven Clements Stuart, Villiers
Ranfurley Acton, W. Taylor, J. E.
Gormanstown Archbold, R. Tuite, H. M.
Massarene Archdall, Mervyn "Verner, W.
Middleton Brooke, A. B. White, Henry
Southwell Butler, P. S.

Westmeath
Ormonde

Lord Monteagle handcd'Lord John Russell a copy of the
resolutions, and in doing so, said that since the meeting of
the Irish party at which they had been adopted, the Noble
Lord announced his intention of amending the Poor Relief
Bill in some respects conformable to the suggestions thrown
out in both Houses of Parliament. Those amendments had
been printed, and one of them went the length of altering
the liability as to payment of the rate, and proposing to
place-the charge, up to a certain amount on the electoral
district; but if the charge should exceed 2s. 6d.," in the
pound, on the year, that then, and in that case, and when it
exceeded the amount, it should be charged to the union at
large. The amendment, so far as it went, was an improve.
ment on the original determination of Government,' but he
could not, in the words of their first resolution, regard any
abandonment, at the present period, of the system of electoral
districts otherwise than as fraught with danger and calcu-
lated to lessen the motives for a liberal and enlightened ma-
nagement of estates.

Lord &nix RUsSELL said, that in connexion with this sub-
ject he had a great number of representations made to him.
Public opinion in Ireland appeared very much divided on the
subject; some persons were desirous that the entire expense
incurred under the Relief Act, should be thrown on the elec.,
toral divisions; others thought a uniform system of rating
over the entire union was the most equitable course ; and a
third section advocated the plan which the Government
after a great deal of consideration had determined upon pro-
posing.
Mr. Shaw, Mr. Grogan, and Mr. G. A. Hamilton supported
the views put forward by Lord Monteagle, and maintained
that an out-door system of relief to the able-bodied was alto.
gether inapplicable to the requirements of Ireland. Their
I resistance was principally limited to the principle of out-
door relief, which they thought would be ruinous to their
property and most demoralising to the people of Ireland.
The resident landlords had subscribed, and would continue
to subscribe to benevolent objects to the utmost of their
ability. They had not the slightest objection to any ex-
tension of the workhouse system that might be considered
necessary. They would cheerfully support, and they had
already done so, any proposition for additional workhouses
to provide for the reception and maintenance of the poor,
upon the distinct understanding that the workhouse teat
was strictly adhered to ; but seeing the evils which had
arisen from ont-door relief in England, and knowing how
they would be magnified in Ireland under a similar system,
and how pernicious would be the consequences to the great
bulk of the population, they came forward to remonstrate
with the Government, and to advise against the pursuing a
course of legislation which, as regarded this particular mode
of relief, was certain to produce results long to be regretted,
and difficult, if not impossible, to be remedied.
Lord Jour( RUSSELL said he had heard the resolutions
read by the Noble Lord, and the various arguments which
the deputationists put forward in support of their views.
He would take an early opportunity of submitting for the
consideration of Government the statement to which the
numerous array of signatures was appended, and there
was no doubt that it would receive all that attentive de-
liberation to which any document coming from so influential
a body of Irish noblemen and gentlemen, on a subject deeply
connected with the bestlinterests of their country, was emi-
nently entitled. He did not mean to express any opinion
whatever on the resolutions of 'the Irish Peers and Members
of Parliament, but he repeated, what he had before said else-
where, that the opinion daily gained ground, not only in this
country, but in Ireland, that the distress to which the people
of that country may be reduced, even in ordinary years,
ought to give them a claim upon the property of Ireland--.
such a claim as the people of England had upon the property
of England in times of great distress, and that there should
be legal provision made for relieving the destitute in the
workhouse when the workhouse was not full; and out of the
workhouse when it was full. Some of the suggestions
which the deputationists had made, suggestions of detail
in the practical working of the measure, they would find
had been in some degree anticipated in the amendments
which he announced the ether evening in the House of Com-
mons when moving the committal of the Bill pro form&
If they were only legislating to meet a temporary evil—if
there were no serious apprehensions of a future recurrence
of the calamity they had all to deplore—he could under-
stand the solitude of those who desired to save the country
from the burden which out-door relief to the able-bodied
would entail; but the question now was, not only how
they were to afford temporary relief to the Irish people, but
how was starvation to be provided against, and how were
the inhabitants of the sister country to be placed in
such a position as to preclude the necessity of their
appealing to England for aid in a season of distress. The
Noble Lord then briefly adverted to the safeguard thrown
round the Bill for the permanent extension of the poor-law
in Ireland, by the reconstruction of the boards of ga
and the increase of ex officio members, andt would
eluded
could b e
duly
not
stating that the resolutions presented to Li
considered by her Majesty's Ministers, but thnathnby
e
The deputation having expressed their acknowledgments
pt hl eadng ehandimalselreafdyt°bereewn
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megmecetned.
d further alteration in the Bill
to Lord John Russell for his courtesy, and thanked him fur
the attention with which he had heard their statement %
[drew.

WHEEL, IN TEI
BWilliam Buvield, the porter, who was con-
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of 3004 in bank-notes, was sentenced to six
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months' imprisonment.
litavrn OF M&. O'ConNELL.—There is no doubt
but that the health of Mr. O'Connell has been muck affected
since his ar4val in town. For a -few days the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman was exceedingly ill, but at no time did
his illness assume a dangerous character. He is, however, in
an extremely weak state, hut his medical advisers have
every confidence that a cessation from all political excite-
ment, and a change of air, will ensure a perfect restoration of
his health. In accordance with previous arrangements made
on the subject, Mr. O'Connell left the British ffotel, .Terinyn-
his son, Mr. J. O'Connell;
street, at eleven o'clock s,esterday morning, accompanied by
en route for Hastings, where he
intends to remain for some time. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman will, it is understood, pay a visit to the south of
France previous to his retern to Ireland. It is to be hoped
that by a suspension of all excitement, and a change of
scene, the result so confidently anticipated by the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman's medical advisers will be insured.—
Sunday Times.
We regret to hear that Captain Frederick Wood
died at his residence in Southsea, from rapid consumption,
on Saturday last, aged forty-eight. He was commander of
the Royal George yacht, in which her Majesty visited Scot-
land in September, 1842, when he received his post rank.
He was formerly senior lieutenant of the Belvidera frigate.
and after that commander of the Implacable, 72, with Cap.
taro Harvey.
Verdi's opera of I Due Foscari (that is in active pre•
paration at her Majesty's Theatre) has been very auc-
, cessful at Rome. All the artistes who performed in this
opera were much applauded, and especially Madames
119atrenegro, Rho basd ated quits 0 pensation.