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fore his Noble Friend did not then produce it ; but when the 1
paperi were all completed—when he could give tilt' whole
narrative of the transaction upon the one side, and a fair ex-
planation on the part of Russia, and a complete disavowal
of the acts of those who had been Russian agents,
then there was no objection to the production of the
document. He would give another instance to which his Hon.
Friend had alluded, and on which he had made some complaint,
but which was a striking illustration of the propriety of this rule;
it was with respect to the North Eastern boundary of America.
Papers were produced some time ago before the Senate of Ame-
rica, which led to a great deal of discussion in the enate, and of
angry declamation against England. When the accounts
reached this country there was no demand for Papers and
no discussion in the House of Commons on the subject,
and he had been told, when this information arrived
in America, it greatly relieved the minds of those who
feared the amicable intercourse of the two countries would
have been interrupted. Now, having stated the general rule,
and illustrations of it, he must say the' e was now no
objection to produce those documents that had been pro-
duced before the Senate of the United States ; but it would
be found necessary to add some documents to them, in
explanation of some circumstances that were alluded to,
in these American papers; for instance, he would mention a
transaction which was of no great consequence, but which was
given in the American papers. Mr. Fox had complained on
the part of Great Britain of some transactions that had taken
place on the Eastern boundary in the State of Maine; and in
the answer it was said they were astonished these complaints
were made, because an attack had been made on a block-house
in which were assembled citizens of the United States, and
that an officer of Militia had taken part in that attack.
--(Hear, hear.) Now the fact was that a mob of people
went to attack the Block-house without any specific design,
and an officer of Militia went with them. The Governor, Sir
John Harvey, disapproved highly of his conduct, but the officer
having expressed his regret for having done anything contrary
to orders, the Governor wrote a despatch, in which he
stated he thought it would be a sufficient punish-
ment to strongly reprimand him. His (Lord John
Russell's) answer was, he thought that would not bo suf-
ficient, but would operate as an encouragement to
future acts of insubordination, and therefore the dis-
missal of the officer ought to take place, and he
conveyed the Queen's commands to that purpose. Now this
attack would have appeared as if encouraged by the Govern-
ment, unless with these papers were produced explanatory
documents. Ho would state again, what he had stated on a
former evening, that there were two separate questions—the
one the general question with regard to the boundary proposed
to be made last year, and the immediate effect of that agree-
ment, and the manner in which the people of the United
States received that proposition.—( Hear, hear, hear.)
He did not think, on the whole, either on the general
question or the Parliamentary question respecting certain
transactions tint had taken place, the union and peace which
prevailed between the two countries, was likely to be inter-
rupted. On the contrary both Governments were too much
impressed with the advantages of peace between these two
great and enlightened countries, and be felt convinced that
any discussion on the subject would end in an amicable manner.
He did not think, after what had been said by his Noble
Friend, and what had taken place in the course of the debate,
he need not enter into the discussion of the question of the
East, but in all negotiations on this subject the first general
principle was the preservation of the integrity of the Turkish ems
Aire, and the declaration made by the Five Powers in the course
of the summer. If the House agreed that the integrity of the
Turkish empire ought not to be provided for, and that the Five
Powers were wrong, then perhaps they would be right in in.
terfering, stating that such was its opinion : but he believed
the general opinion was the other way ; if not, it would be but
fair to the other Powers to state so openly. The King of the
French had declared, in words stronger than any other, his
wish to preserve the integrity of the Turkish empire. Were
they to abandon the Sultan, it was plain it would be at once
saying to Russia, we do nut mean to abide by our policy,
and snaking it necessary for her, in compliance with
our intention and policy, to be the sole protectrix
of the Sultan, and thus make Turkey to depend
solely on such protection as Russia might give her. Speaking
as to the general views and policy of all the Five Powers, of
course it would depend on their opinion upon certain j oints,
but for his part he hoped and believed it would terminate in
giving greater security to the Turkish empire.
Mr. GALLY KNIGHT said that the explanations which
his had heard were of a form consolatory to bun. He appre-
hended that as ths Noble Lord opposite (Lord Palmerston) had
been outwitted by Russia on a former occasion, he would floss
be outwitted by France. He cons lered that the restoration of
the Turkish fleet ought to be a sine qua non in any negotiation
with the Paella.—( Hear.) He anxiously desired to have more
information upon the subject, although, perhaps, it would not
be right to insist upon it after the solemn assurance of the
Noble Lord that the production of it would be detrimental
to the public service.--( Hear. )
Mr. HUME, in reply, read several extracts from corre-
spondence between the representatives of England, the Five
Powers, and Mehemet Ali; but the noise in the House pre-
vented us from collecting the particulars with any degree of
accuracy. The ground of his complaint was, that this coun-
try was obliged to keep up a fleet for the purpose of preserving
a peace which would be firmly established only for the inter-
ference of the Five Powers, who laid down no principle for
that interference. Information on this subject was in the pos-
, session of every body. It was published in the Augsburg
Gazette, and yet this House was not to be permitted to have
any information on the subject. He wanted to know what was
the policy of the Noble Lord ; he believed he had no policy.—
( Cheers from the Opposition.) He wished the Five Powers
would withhold their interference, and withdrew their notes,
and the question would be immediately settled by the parties
concerned. He would withdraw his motion for the present ;
but he should bring it forward again that day month, and then
he would take the sense of the House upon it, as the country
ought not to be left in darkness as to our policy in this ques-
tion —(Cheers. )

The ;notion was then withdrawn.
OPIUM TRADE IN CHINA.
Lord SANDON, in withdrawing his motion relative to the
Opium Trade with China, wished to be distinctly understood
as not having in the slightest degree charged his opinion on the
subject. He intended to bring forward the question again on
an early day, after Easter, and he thought the best plan the
Government could adopt would be to co-operate with the Chi-
nese Government in their endeavours to extinguish this trade.
GLASGOW UNIVERSITY.
Mr. WALLACE rose for the purpo,e of mevin,, an address
for a return, in columns, of the names of the Professors in the
University of Glasgow whose duties are at present performed by
assistants or substitutes, with the names of those ; stating the
' Professorship, and duration of the incumbency of each such
Professor; also the length of time during which the duties of
his office, in whole or in part, respectively, have been dis-
charged by an assistant or substitute, with the cause which ren-
dered it necessary to have recourse to such services, and the
authority under which any Professor was empowered to delegate
his duties. He should not make any observations in intro-
ducing his motion, as he did not understand whether it was to
be opposed. He saw the Lord Rector of the University in his
place, and should reserve what he had to say for his reply to any
observations that that Right lion. Gentleman might think fit to
make.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he really wished some Mem-
ber of the Government would either express assent to or dis-
sent from this motion. He did feel himself called upon to ex-
press a decided opinion on that subject, but he was not aware
what right the House had to make the inquiry, inasmuch as
the University was not at all connected with the State, and
derived no support from it, but as resistance to the return
might lead to the idea that there was something to conceal,
he would not oppose the motion, but would state that it would
be generally found that those Professors who performed
the duty by deputy, were generally Re&s Professors who were
advanced in age, andthe reason why they performed the office by
deputy instead of resigning was, that although the Crown aft •
pointed them to the office, it had not thought fit to provide any
retiring allowance for the Professors who through age were in-
capacitated from perfor,ning th•-• duties of their office.
The motion was then agreed to.
NON-PRODUCTION OF PAPERS.
Lord ELIOT had, on the 14th February, moved for the pro-
duction of papers respecting the subject of emigration to South
Australia. The information he required might have been com-
pressed in very small compass, and as after a lapse of six weeks
they had not been produced, he thought he could not be accused
of precipitation in moving That the South Australian Pepers
(ordered 14th Feb. 1 be laid before the House forthwith."
Mr. VEkNON SMITH said that the delay had been oc-
casioned by the changes made by the removal of the business
of the South Australian Commission to the Land Boa; (I. He
had written to the Board on the subject, and they had stated
that no unnecessary delay should take place in the pr,iduction
of the papers. The Board was suffering considerable incon-
venience from the necessity they were under of transacting
one portion of their business in Scotland-yard and the other
portion in the Adelphi. The returns should be produced as
speedily as they could be made out.

Mr. ''HUTT'said ihe Noble Lord could not be aware of the
extent of the papers called for.
After a slight conNeisation, in which Mr. GOULBURN
complained generally of the delay that took 'lace in the pro-
duction of papers, of whic i return; had been ordered,
The motion was agreed to.
OYSTERS IN SCOTLAND.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL mo;edio: leave to bring
in a Bill, th • object of which was to assimilate the law of
Scotland regarding opters, to that f England, which made
stealing from prp,ate oyster beds felony, and attempting to
steal, a misdein-aliour.

Mr. HUME hoped the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
would deal out equal justice, and take the Irish oysters under
his protection.
Sir &. CLERK wished to know whether the Act to which
the Learned Gentleman referred applied to oyster beds in the
open sea, because, if it did, it appeared to him that it inflicted
a penalty upon persons for taking animals in a wild state. The
Attorney-Genera' said the Act to which he referred applied to
Ireland as well as to England, an t, therefore, justice had been
done to the Irish .natives.—(Lau_hter.) The law applied to
certain oyster beds. and all that he intended was to adopt the
same prim ivies to S,cflancl.
Sir R. PEEL thought if there were any other species of
fish, such as lobsters for instance, they ought to be included in
the present Bill.—( Laughter.)
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the provisions of
the Bill applied to them.—( Laughter. )
Captain PECLIELL said that lobsters were not protected
in England, and he did not see why they Mould in Scotland.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
ADMIRALTY COURT.

Mr. MORE O'FERRALL obtained leave to bring in a
Bid to improve the practice and extend the jurisdiction of
the High Court of Admiralty. The Right lion. Gentleman
stated that the provisions of the Bill were exactly the same as
that introduced last year, only now the Bill was divided into two
parts.

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Leave was given to bring in the Bill.
The House then went into Committee for the purpose of
adoring resolutions on which to found a Bill to make provision
for the Judge Register and Marshal of the High Court of Ad-
miralty of England.
On the question that 4,030/. should he granted for the pur-
pose of paying the salary of the Judge of the High Court of
Admiralty.
Mr. BERRIES said that it was not usual to go into Com-
mittee on a subject of this kind without notice.
Mr. HUME also thought the eourie that had been adopted
irregular. It was his intention to move that 3,000/. should be
substituted instead of 4,000/. as the salary of the Judge, and
he should therefore now move that the Chairman leave the
Chair, which h vine been dune, and the House having resumed,
Mr. M. O'FERRALL gave notice that, on Monday next,
he khould move that the House go into Committee upon the
subject.
Mr. HUME also gave notice that, on the resolution that
4,0001. should be granted fo- defraying the salary of the Judge
of the High Court of Admiralty, he should move that 3,000/.
be substituted.--( Hear.)
TEAMES EMBANKMENT.
Sir M. WOOD moved that it be referred to a Sdeet Com.
mittee tq cousider the petition of the Corporation of London,
relative to the embankment of the river Thames; and to re-
pt their opinion thereupon to the House, together with the
best means of carrying the same into effect.
Mr. WARBURTON thought a motion of this kind should
be prefaced IA some explanation, so as they might be able to
form an opinion whether this plan was practicable or not. He
was informed it was contemplated to embank the Thames from
Vauxhall to London-bridge, wh eh was so important an tlnclvT,
taking that the House should imp tome OifoTTMiotl respect- I
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