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principal and largest towns cf this country should be exempt
from that Bill, with a view to legislation separately, having
reference to their own peculiar interests. I need hardly say
that, being now an independent Member of Parlirment, that
Bill is no longer in my hands. It is undertaken by the
present Home Secretary, Lord Grey, and he has means to
deal with the subject which I had not. All I can say is,
that I look upon regulations of this kind—anything which
shall promote and increase the health, and consequently in-
crease the happiness and habits of order and comfort among
the labouring population—as so important, that to that sub-
ject, and to any Bill which Government thinks it right to
introduce, I will devote the most anxious and careful atten-
tion.— (Applause.) Gentlemen, there is one most important
national subject, to which, if time permitted, I should allude;
but I do feel that I have already trespassed upon your attention
a good deal.—(Cries of "Go on.") I do see signs of impa-
tience, which remind me that I ought to be more considerate
and not enter at much length upon any subject. But there is
one great and important point upon which I should desire
to have dwelt fur more time, but still I must touch -
slightly upon it—it is the present state of Ireland. lam
convinced that a crisis has arrived in the affairs of that
country which requires more wisdom and boldness than,
perhaps, ever was required from any Minister before, in any
state of a country. I believe, upon the exercise of that wis-
dom and boldness, in the present ensuing session, will depend
much of the future welfare and happiness of our sister
country ; and I ant sure that, under such circumstances,
and with such feelings, you would feel that I should grossly
neglect my duty if, by one word, 1 could prejudice or impair,
or render more difficult, those measures, which the Govern-
ment may be likely to introduce upon that subject. I will
forbear to touch upon any disputed topic. I will say nothing
about the poor-law, the cultivation of waste lands, or any
other recommendations which have been proposed, and are
likely to be submitted to the Legislature. I think it would
be more be,:orning in me to be silent upon these points. But
thus much I may say, as regards that country, that the senti-
ments I entertained towards it when connected by the im-
portant tie of official relationship, shall be immutable and
maintained by me when an independent Member. I have
contracted an anxiety and a regard for the welfare of that
country, which is not likely to be changed by any circum-
stances which may occur to myself—(Applause)---and this
I am prepared to declare, that I shall ever be found an
advocate for a liberal policy towards that country—that
I shall be found to be an advocate for the granting to Ire-
land an equality with this country in all civil rights—(Hear)
—I mean such an equalisation as the peculiar and altered
circumstances of the two countries may enable us to give.
Don't imagine I mean any subterfuge by that last qualifica-
tion; I mean simply that the different positions of England
and Ireland may require different circumstances and legis-
lative processes. as the different circumstances of England
and Scotland require different legislations with respect to
them. For as regards all substantial merits, Ido wish
to see legislation henceforward conducted towards that
country in the same spirit in which we legislate for Eng-
land and Scotland. I am satisfied you concur with me in
that oninion ; that on those grounds alone should we be jus-
tified in claiming the attachment of that country; and I
believe, by such a course, we may ensure such attachment.
I would not, even here, although no doubt there are very
many in this room would understand me, make a latin quo-
tation ; and therefore let me recal to your minds, in the
English tongue, the sentiments of the Roman orator, Cicero,
who said that those who take counsel fur the interests of one
part of a country, and neglect the other, bring upon the state
those most pernicious of evils, discord and seuition—(Loud
cheers.) Discord and sedition have unfortunately been at
times but too common in that ill-fated country ; but let it be
ours to deprive them, at any rate, of any excuse for such
conduct. I believe that we may eventually remove both
discord and sedition; but let us at least, as loyal subjects,
and good fellow-countrymen, be guiltless of such conse-
quences.—(Hear, hear.) Now, gentlemen, I will trespass on
your attention with no further observations voluntarily
on my part. As I said before, lam ready to answer
any questions that may be put to me.—(Applause.) I
rejoice that I have had this opportunity of explanation,
and that it will now afford you sufficient time before
the canvass is completed, to decide whether eventually you
should wish me to become the representative of this great
and important constituency.—(Cheers, and same few cries
of "No, drowned by shouts of " Yes.") And now, gentle-
men, in conclusion, whether or no I shall ever stand towards
you in any other relationship than that in which I stand
towards you at this moment—whether or not I should ever
be honoured with the proud name of your representative--I
part from you upon this occasion with the earnest hope that
this great and important community may continue to enjoy
that prosperity which for the last few years has been its lot.
But, gentlemen, if that may not be the case—if, in the in.
scrutable designs of Providence, that should not be decreed
—but that adverse times should be coming (as I know-that
some fear they are coming), may the pressure and the sor-
row of those times be mitigated by the enlightened and
liberal spirit of the population of this great town ; and may
you be bound by the cords of that common interest which I
believe will always affect you, where the benefit of your town,
and more especially of the humbler portion of it, is con-
cerned.—(Applause.) And if, indeed, those times should
come, let me add the fervent prayer that the clouds which
may now come over you may quickly disperse, and that you
may again appear before the world, as an example of manu-
facturing and mercantile greatness, unalloyed by the vices
which are but frequently the accompaniments of those great
advantages. May you stand before the eyes of an admiring
world ias an emporium of trade, as the nursery of science and
of art; and may your great charities and beneficent deeds
lay a lasting claim for this town to those benefits and that
prosperity which it has hitherto enjoyed !—(Great cheering,
during which his Lordship resumed his seat, having spoken
an hour and three-quarters.)
Several questions were then put to his Lordship, in reply
to which he declared he would nut vote next session for the
total and immediate repeal of the corn-laws; for the Ten
Hours' Bill, for the ballot, for electoral districts, or for the
equalization of the stamp duties.
An ELECTOR inquired whether his Lordship would take
the revenue to remunerate the Irish Roman Catholic clergy
out of the funds of the Irish Protestant Church, which is a
church without a people?
In reply to which Lord LINCOLN said—l believe I may
answer the question in the words of the present Prime
Minister of England soon after his acceptance of office in
July last—that the destruction of the Protestant Church of
Ireland would be one of the most fruitful and perpetual
sources of heart-burnings, bickerings, and discontents in that
country.—(Hear.) Under those circumstances, and con-
curring very much with that Noble Lord, I certainly am
not prepared to make such a promise as the elector asks of
me.—(Applause.) _

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Another ELECTOR—Do you think it right for the Dis-
senters of England to pay towards the Established Church,
from which they differ?
Lord LINCOLN said the Established Church was supported
by funds derivable from land, and other property, of which,
unquestionably, some was held by Dissenters; and it was
almost invariably either inherited or purchased subject to
those payments. Therefore, as regards the Established
Church, it is undoubtedly property and not the individual
Dissenters who pay.
Another ELECTOR—WiII you support a system of national
education, unshackled by the trammels of sectarianism?
Lord LINCOLN said that this was a question of far too
general a nature to be answered in a tangible and distinct
shape. He could only say he was most anxious that any
promotion of education by the State should be national in
scope, in object, and in effect.—(Applause.) He believed
that the systems of education in Holland and Prussia, how-
ever good for those countries, were by no means likely to
be beneficially engrafted upon our system here ; and he
doubted whether even the national system of education in
Ireland was practically applicable to this country.
An Etatcron inquired whether it was his Lordship's inten-
tion to address the electors of the different districts, previous
to the requisition being presented to him ?
Lord LINCOLN said, in obedience to the wishes of the
committee for promoting the requisition, he had come
down and addressed that meeting ; and any further steps
in reference to the canvass he should only take in obe-
dience to a request from the same body—for this reason
—greatly. as he should prize the honour of being the re-
presentative of Manchester, he should feel it most hide.
licate, most improper, and he might say most "
modest," on his part to take any steps of a voluntary
rature to attain that honour.—(Hear, hear.) if called for-
ward by a requisition from a large body of the constituency,
it would be his duty to obey it—(Cheers)—and from the
moment he became a candidate, he should of course consider
himself not only entitled, but bound to take a different, and
perhaps, more independent course than he could at this mo-
ment.—(Applause.) He was now entirely in the hands oC
the body who had called him forward, and it certainly was
not his intention at present to attend any other meetings,
unless on the intimation of its being their wish that he
should do so.
Mr. R. BIItLEY moved—
" That this meeting has heard with much satisfaction the
declaration of opinions expressed by Lord Lincoln, and begs
to tender its best thanks to the Noble Lord for his kindness
in accepting the invitation of the committee, and for his pre-
sence on this occasion."
Mr. M. Ross seconded the resolution, which was put from
the chair, and passed almost unanimously, a few dissentient
hands being raised near the doors of the room.
Mr. T. COOKE,jun., moved, and M. W. Gina seconded, the
following resolution
1 " That the canvass for Lord Lincoln having so far pro-
ceeded most satisfactorily, this meeting resolves that the
, same be prosecuted with all possible activity till completed."
Which was carried unanimously.
Lord LLNCOLN, in moving a vote of thanks to the Chair-
, man, said it was well known that Mr. Neild had devoted
' much time, labour, and money to the service of the public:
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• Mr. J. PEEL seconded the resolution, which was put by
Mr. J. A. TURNER, and passed almost unanimously.
Mr. Alderman NEILD, in acknowledging it, thanked the
assembly for this mark of their approval, and said he was
only sorry that the orderly disposition of the meeting
not universal.
The proceedings then terminated.

PRIVY COUNCIL. hold a Privy
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o'cloc Council at Buckingham Palace, on Monday next, at two
On Monday evening, Dr. Bowring M.P., delivered
an address to the members of the Woolwich Institution
on " Human Progress." The Town Hall, in which the
address was delivered, was crowded on the occasion.
BORDER MARRIAGES.--A brisk trade seems atpre-
sent to be enjoyed ,by the officials who celebrate these
marriages. Mr. Dickson, who holds sway at Coldstream-
bridge, in one week lately tied the indissoluble knot in
no less than eight cases. The county of Northumber-
land, in general, furnishes the parties for these hasty
proceedings.—/Veracastle Advertiser.
FRANCE AND CHINA.--It is reported that one of
the commercial delegates who accompanied M. de La-
grenee in his mission to China has just been appointed
general agent for French commerce at Canton. He will
have under him a deputy, who will reside at Macao.--
Galignani.
The following gentlemen have been placed upon the
commission of the peace for the county of Cumberland :
Thomas Barnes, Esq., M.D., of Carlisle ; Joseph Ferguson,
Esq., of Lowther-street, Carlisle; the Rev. W. H. Milner, of
Penrith ; the Rev. J. B. Dykes, of Dovenby; and the teiri.
R. N. Featherston, of litaryport: