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wage war either against your Majesty or against 'Spain, but
agauott that party who keep your Majesty and your august
family prisoners in Cadiz. I shall not consider them at liberty
until they are in the midst of my troops, either at Cadiz or at
Port St. Mary's. as your Majesty may prefer. lf, before
evening, I do not receive,tt satisfactory answer to this letter,
and to the note which I have caused to be communicated to
General Alava, concerning the liberty of your Majesty and
your Royal Family, and the occupation of Cadiz by. my troops.
I shall consider all itgociations broken off. lam with the most
profound respect, my dear Brother and Cousin, your Majesty's
most affectionate Brother, Cousin, and Servant,
(Signed) LOUIS ANTOINE.
Port St. Mary's, this 6th Sept. 1023.
(No. V.)
,MY DEAIt BROTHEft AND COUSIN-4 have received your
Royal Highness's letter of yesterday, and from the explanation
you give me in it, I see, with deep regret, that your Royal
Iliglinefis shuts all the doors against peace. A King cannot be.
-free by going from among his subjects and placing himself at
the discretion of foreign troops which have invadeti his king.
don ; nor does a Spanish fortress, when within it there are no
-traitors, ever surrender unless when honour and the laws of war
justify the act. J nevertheless wish to give to your Royal
',Highness and to the world every proof that I fail in nothing, in
order to spare the; effusion of blood; and since your Royal
Highness refuses to treat with any e except mysne,elf,
and alone
and free, I am ready to treat, uur tonwo selves alo at
free liberty, either on any.spot, at an equal and proportioned
distance from the two armies, and with all suitable and Ted.
procal security, or on board of any neutral vessel, under the
faith of its flag. Lieutenant-General Don Miguel icardo tie
e
Alava returns, commissioned by me, in order to deliver i
the hands of your Royal Higlinese this letter, and I hope from
your Royal Highness a more satisfactory answer.
God preserve ,yous.itoyal Highness, my dear Brother and
Cousin, the many years' I wish you. Your Royal Highness's
most affectionate Brother anti Cousin,
(Signed) FERDINAND.
Cadiz,' Sept. 7, 1023.
The answer to the above note was brought back by General
Alava, and in rendering an account of his mission to the
King and his Ministers,ieinformed them " that lie had, on
the preceding day, delivered the Ring's letter to the Duke
a'Atigouletne, who
ant
refused to agree to an interview
.with his Majesty anti his Royal. Family in a neutral vessel, be-
cause France did not wish that any other power should inters I
ferein the affairs of Spain, except herself; and that he appointed
Generals Bordessoulle and Guilleminot to treat with him .re-
specting the most suitable means which could be devised, in
the actual situation of things, for an early termination of the ,
war. " The inclosed memorandum," he added. " was a
copy of the proposals made to him by the aforesaid Generals,
and •he regretted that he had only been able to obtain a
more ample explanation respecting the second paragraph, and
the modification of the fourth, .as contained in the aforesaid
memorandum:. in the explanations respecting the second
paragraph, he stated, " that he had been assured, in the most
positive manner, that 413 home after his Majesty should have
arrived -on the other side of -the bridge(the Suazo bridge a
is
meant) he would issue a Proclamation promising to grant
Constitutional Government which should -be in harmony with
the enlightened,state of the age, as well as the wa
wnas assured,
ts an wel-
fare of his people. The interests of Fiance," he
", required thatthis kind of Representative Government should
be established in Spain for her tranquillity and repose, which
cannot be indifferent to France; and be was also assured that his
Majesty would publ'itsh
was a generaladded," oblivion
is necessary of all thfor te past his than
. No
other guarr.stee,
the confidence which the welt-known scrupulosity and probity
of the Duke d'Angottleme in fafilling his word ought to inspire.
It was established that the foreigners who were in Cadiz
;should be allowed to withdraw to whatever country they might
prefer as long as that was not their own, and for this purpose
the necessary passports should be granted to them., " With re.
gard to the general amnesty, it was a settled point; so also to
the cancelling of such confiscations as had already takden
plvery
and that -these -should 'henceforward be prohibite. X
,Spaniard who should wish to withdraw to a foreign country,
int:hiding France, shall be allowed to do so freely, and the ne.,
evisary passports shall be granted to them. The provisions
-which are In. La Isla maybe conveyed to Cadiz, but not the
ammunition.'"
Ile added, " that the Duke d'Angouleme had totally re.
jected the proposed conference on neutral or intermediate
•ground between the two armies, because he could not consider
the King as being free at long as his family continued in
Cadiz„ .and because he did not see that such a conference
could lead to any result." lie also added, that it was a settled
point, " that the Representative Government was not to be the
Cortes by cameo, but those formed out of an equal representa-
tion of all the provinces:"
[The I,receding Report was given In bye General Alava on,
Sth Sept. as the result of his conference,-and as containing
the alarm-awn of the Frencll.l
' copy ow THE. ME3IORANIMAI ABOVE ALLUDED To.
.le vie puts traitorde :ten qua le Rut SCI oit libre. ue le Rot
et In fondle Royale se rendent, soft Chiclana soh au Port
Sainfe Marie, a la vulontd de Sa Majeste. .ruserai tie toute
mon influence attprs de 53 111.3iCSte pour qu'elle promette et
donne, sit pleine volonte, teller institutions qu'elle jugera
convenir Au bonhetir,. aux besoins, et it la tranquillite de see
peoples, et pour qu'elle annonce qu'elle oublie.le passe. Totes
ceux qui voudront quitter l'ESpagrie pourront se retirer patriot
o 4 bon leur semblera ; des mires seront dormer; en consequence
l'Admiral. Line division Frangaise entrera dans Cadix pour
y maintenir l'ordre, y empecher lea reactions et protege! tout
le monde.
Note.--Cc dernier paregraphe etE modifie de la maniere
snivantet—Les troupes Trancaises occuperont l'lsle tie Leon
jusques et .y compris Cortadura et le Fort Puntales. Le
terrain entre cos points et la place sera neutre. L'ariniatice
avec is place sera de deux moist les relatioas comrnerciales se-
tont retablis.

TS A NFLATION.
I can treat of nothing until the King is free. Let the wing
and Royal -Family repair either to Chiclana or Port St. Mary's,
es his Majesty chooses. I will use the whole of my influence
with his Majesty, in order that he may promise and grant, of
his own free will, such institutions as he shall judge to be
suitable to the happiness, wants, and tranquillity of his people;
and orderthat he may announce that fie forgets the pa,—
All those who wish to leave Spain may withdraw wherever they
think proper ; and in consequence thereof, orders shall be
I riven to the Admiral. A French division shall enter Cadiz for
tile purpose of maintaininw order there, preventing reactions,
and protecting every one.
The last paragraph was modified in the following manner:—
" 'The French troops shall occupy La Isla de Leon, as far as
and inclUding the Cortadura and Fort Puntales. The ground
between. these two points and the town shall be. neutral. The
armistice with the town shall be
"for two months. Commercial
relations shall he re•established.

AIR. SECRETARY CAN. ING.

On Wednesday last the freedom of the Borough
of Plymouth was presented to Mr. CAN NINO, by
Sir W. ELFonu, Bart., the Itecoider. The free!
dent was enclosed in U. very elegant box, cut from
a tine piece of Breakwater marble. The design
was ingenious, and the workmanship excellent.
Sir W. ELFURD, a gentleman highly respected
for public spirit,as well as for taste and skill in the
line arts, addressed Mr. CANNING in a brief, but
pertinent as well as appropriate speech,, and the
lion. Gentleman answered as follows
" Mr. Mayor and Gentlemen--I accept with thankfulness,
and with greater satisfaction than I can express, this flattering
testimony of your good opinion and good will. I must add,
that the value of the gift itself has been greatly enhanced by
the manner in which your worthy and honourable Recorder has
developed the motives which suggested it, and the sentiments
which it is intended to convey.'
" Gentlemen, your Recorder has said very truly, that who-
ever in this free and enlightened State aims at political emi-
nence, and discharges political duties; must expectto have his
conduct scrutinized, and every action of his public life sifted
wi:h no ordinary jealousy, 'and with no sparing criticism ; and
such may have ,been my lot as much as that of other men.
But, Gentlemen, unmerited obloquy seldom fails of an ade-
quate though perhaps tardy compensation. I must think my-
self, as my Hon. Friend hat said, eminently fortunate, if such
compensation, cs he describes, has fallen to me at an earlier
period than to many others.;,ifl dare flatter myself (as his par-
tiality has flattered .me, thOhe sentiments that you arc kind
enough to entertain tor me are in unison with those of the
country—if, in addition to the justice done me by my friends,
' may, as he has assured me, rely upon a candid construction;

even from political opponents.
" But, Gentlemen, the secret 'of such a result does not lie
deep. It consists only in an honest and undeviating pursuit of
what one conscientiously believes to be' 'one's public duty ; a
pursuit which, steadily continued, will, however detached and
separate parts of a man's conduct may be viewed under the in-
fluence of partialities or prejndiCes, obtain for it, when con-
sidered as a whole, the approbation of all honest and honour-
nble minds. Any man may occasionally be.mistaken as to the
means most conducive to the end which he has in view ; but if
the end be just and praiseworthy, it is by that that lie will be
ultimately Judged, either by his contemporaries or by poste-
applause.)-
Gentlemen, the end which I confess .I have always had in
view, anti which appears to me the legitimate object of pur-
suit to a British Statesman, I can describe in one word. The
language of modern philosophy is wisely and diffusely benevo-
lent—it professes the perfection of our species, and the ame-
lioration of the lot of all mankind. Gentlemen, I hope that
-my heart beats as high for the general interest of humanity—l '
hope that 'I have as friendly adispotition towards other nations
of the earth as any one who vaunts his philanthropy most
highly, but I am contented to confess that, in the conduct of
political affaire, the ,grand object of my contemplation is the
interest of England.—(diuch applause.)
" Not, Gentlemen, that the interest of England is an interest
which stands isolated and alone. The situation which she holds'
forbids an exclusive selfishness ; her prosperity must contri.
bute to the prosperity of other nations, anti her stability to the
safety of the world.—(Burets of applause.)—But intimately
connected as we are with • the system of Europe, it does not
follow that we are therefore called upon to mix 'Ourselves on
every occasion, with a restless and meddling activity, in Abe'
concerns of the naticms which surround us. It is upon a just
balance of conflicting duties, and of rival but sometimes in-
compatible advantages, that a Government must judge when
to put forth its strength, and when to husband it for occasions
yet to come.
" Onr ultimate object must be the peace of the world. That
object may sometimes be best attained by p. pt exertions—
sometimes by abstinence from interposition in contests which
we cannot prevent. It is upon these principles that, as has
been mostarttlyobeerved by my worthy friend, it did not ap-
pear to the Government of this country to be necessary that
Great Britain should mingle, in the recent contest between
France and Sp r. n.—( A pplauSe.)
" Your worthy Recorder has accurately claimed the persons
who would have driven see into that contest. There were un.
doubtedly among them those who desired to plunge this coun-
try into the difficulties of war, partly from the hope that those
difficulties would overwlieltn the Administration ; but it would
be most unjust not to admit, that there were others who were
actuated by nobler principles and more generous feelings, who
would have rushed forward at ante from the sense of indigna-
tion at aggression, and who deemed that no act or injustice,
could be perpetrated from one end of the universe to the other,
but that the sword of Great Britain should leap from its scab-
, bard to avenge it.—(Applause.)—ut as it is the province of
lawn) controul the excess, even of laudable passions and pro-
pensities in individuals, se it is the duty of Government to re-
strain within due bounds the ebUllition of nationalesentiment,
and to regulate the course and direction of impulses which it
cannot blame. Is there any one among the latter class of per-
sons described by my Hon. Friend (for to the forme! I have no-
thing to say) who continuo to doubt whether the Government
did wisely in declining toobey the precipitate enthusiasm which
prevailed at the commencement of the contest in Spain 2
(Applause.)--3s there any body who does not now think, that
it was the office of the Government to examine more closely
all the various bearings of so complicated a question, to con.
sider whether they were called upon to assist a united nation,
or to.plunge themselves into the internal feuds by which that
nation was divided—totaid in repelling a foreign invader, or to
take part in a civil war.—(Applause.)—Is there any man that
-does not now see what would have been the extent of burdens
that would have been cast upon this country ? Is there any
one who does not acknowledge that under each circumstances,
the enterprize would have been to be characterized only
by a term borrowed from that part of the Spanish literature
With which we are TIIOSt familiar—Quixotic—an enterprize ro-
mantic in its origin and thankless in the end ?—(Applause.)—
" But while we thus contront even our feelings by our duty,
let it not be said that we cultivate peace either because we
fear, or because we are unprepared for war; on the contrary,
if eight months ago the Government did not hesitate to pro-
claim that the country was prepared for war, if' war should
unfortunately be necessary, every month of peace that has since
past, has but made us so much the more capable of exer-
tion. The resources created by peace, are means of war.—
(Applause.)—ln cherishing those resources, we but accumulate
those means. Our present repose is no more a proof of in-
ability, to act, than the state of inertness and inactivity in
which 1 have seen these mighty masses that float in the
waters above your town, is a proof they are devoid of
strength, and Incapable of being fitted for action. You
well know, Gentlemen, how soon one of those stupendous
masses, now reposing; on their shadows in perfect stillness—
how soon, upon any call of patriotism, or of necessity, it would
assume the likeness of an animated thing—instinct with life and
motion—how soon it would ruffle, as it were, its swelling
plumage —how quickly it would put forth all its beauty, and
its bravery "collect its scattered elements of strength, and
awaken its dormant thunder.--(Lout; and continued thunders
of applause.)--Such, as is one of these magnificent nutehinee
when e pinging from inaction into a display of its might—
such is England herself, while apparently passive and motion-
less, she silently concentratee the power to he put forth on an
adequate occason. But God forbid that that occasion should
arise ! After a war sustained for nearly 3 quarter of a century
—sometimes single-handed, and with all Europe arranged at
times against her, or at her side, England needs a period of
tranquillity, and may enjoy it wihaut fear of misconstruction.
Long may we be enabled, Gentlemen' to improve the blessings
of our present situation, to cultivate the arts Of peace, to give
to commerce, now reviving, greater extension and new spheres
of employment, and to confirm the proserity now generally
di•ffused throughout this island. Of the blessing of peace, Gen-
tlemen, I trust that this borough, with which I have now the
honour and happinese of being associated; will receive an ample
snare. I trust the time is_ not far distant when that noble
structure of' which, as I leant from your Recorder, the box with
which you have honoured me, throngh his bands, formed a
part, that gigantic barrier against the fury of the waves that
roll into your harbour, will protect a commercial marine not
less considerable in its kind than the warlike marine of which
your port has been long so distingaishetan asylum—and when
the town of Plymouth will partictpate h comniercial pro-
sperity as largly as it has hitherto done in the naval glories of
Isitgland.—(The Hon. Gentlemen sat down amidst bursts of
cheering, which lasted for several minutes.)
After the applause subsided, the Meetinglispereed. The
populace who had collected outside Goildhall in great numbers
most enthusiastically cheered the Right ITon. Gentleman, both
as lie entered and retired from the Hail. In addition to the
Right Hon. the Earl of Morley, Mr. Canning was accompanied
front Saltram by Mrs. and Miss Canning, Limsa and L,dy
Grenville, Lord Howard, Lord Geo. Bentinc, and Stud
Wortley, anti several other persons of distinction.

THE LATE HORRIBLE MURDER.

CORONER'S VERDICT-WILFUL hIURDEEL AGAINST

THREE OF THE PRISONERS.
,„,L,
ELSTItEE, SAT tiItDAY.--- .t. ins morning, at twelve o'clock,
the Coroner and Jury re-assembled at the Artichoke Tavern.
The Magistrates of Watford Robert Clutterbuck, Thomas
Haworth, J. F.Mason, awl George Watlingtonsatsgrs., were
in early attendance, and many Gentlemen of the greatest re.
spectability in the county.
Before the Jury were impantielled, or the Coroner bad ar-
rived, the prisoners, Protiert. Hunt, and Thomas Thurtd:, who
had been confined during the preceding night in St. Atnan's
gaol, arrived in three chaises, attended by the local police. A
considerable crowd was collected in front of the inn, whose ex.
pressions evinced the strong indignation which this foul murder
has excited. The prisoners were conducted into separate rooms,
under the care of the officers.' They were relieved from their
irons, and front all unnecessary coercion. Soon after the Ma-
gistrates had taken their seats, Mr. NOEL, the Solicitor,
entered the room, and addressing them, said that Thomas
Thomell has expresese4l es wisn, before the examination pro-
ceededato baye some communication with hint (Mr. NOEL)
and the Coroner.
Mr. CLUTTERBLICL asked if the Coroner was come.
Mr. NOEL said not yet, but he was expected every moment.
The Magistrates said they saw no objection to this course if
the prisoner wished it.
Mr. NOEL then quitted the room. The new sack in which
the body was found was then produced before the Jury, and
laidon the table. It was split from top to bottom, and at the
bottom there was a large stain of blood—this was where the
head bad rested. A plan of Probert's cottage and grounds was
then produced. It was neatly executed, and gave, a complete
key to the circumstances which were detailed by the witnesses.
Information was also given to the Magistrates that Hunt and
Probert, on their way down to the house of the latter on Fri.
day night, purchased half-a-bushel of corn from a baker of the
name of White, at Edgware, and took an old sack with them.
They also stopped at the house of a publican of the name of
Clarke, at Edgware, with whom they were acquainted. Hunt I,
entered into conversation with Clarke on the subject of the
bill of indictinent which had been preferred against the Thur.l
tells for conspiring to set their house on tire in Watliog7street
Clarke, who knew the Thartells, said it was a had business :
on which Hunt took out a newspaper, containing a contratlic- 1
tiolitto the statement that the bill had been found. Probert
now seemed very impatient to be off, and Clarke, while they
stood in the house, heard another chaise and horse drive by.—
They at last set off towards Elstree at great speed. On the
Sunday morning John 'rhurtell called at Clarke s, as. he was
oing.down to Probert's to dine; he asked if Mrs. C. had any
lemons, Clarke being out, and took some with him, as he said,
to make puoch. He afterwards met Clarke in Edgeware, and
shook hands with hint ; Clarke remarked that he looked very
ill, and he assigned his agitated'appearance to the pressure of
his own private affairs : he then drove on. Clarke saw Hunt
on Friday at Elstree, ,and in consequence of some suspicion
that he had been conveying information from one prisoner to
the other, he was called before the Magistrates ; but upon
being questioned, he stated that he had been merely speaking
to Bunt of the atrocity of his conduct.
The Magistrate asked Clarke what he had said to Probert ?
Clarke said, that the words he used were these :—" Good God,
how could you call and drink and joke, the way you did at my
.house, when you had concerted, and were about to commit
such a horrid murder ?" The Magistrate asked, if that was all
he had said ? Clarke replied, that he believed he said to Pro-
bert, " that it was a horrid and brutal piece of business, and
be believed they were all in it." Clarke declared that he had
not spoken to the other prisoners.
The Magistrate then said, that it was untrue that he convey-
ed information from one prisoner to the other"; and dismissed
him, expressing satisfaction at his explanation. On Friday
Hunt was spoken to by a person whd bad been an acquaintance
of the deceased ; he asked him, how he could have joined in
such a horrible transaction? Hunt replied, " I did not do the
act, I certainly knew of its being concerted for some time be.
tare it took place; and a fortnight before, I went to Mr. Rex-
worthy's, to inform him of the intention to murder and rob his
friend Weare ; but when 1 was about to communicate the fact
to him, I had not the heart to do it."
The Coaorera gave orders that no person whatever should 1
lie admitted to the prisoners as it was important to prevent
conversations taking place,
which may be conveyed from one
of the accused to another.
The Coroner having arrived, the inquiry proceeded by the
examination of the following witnesses :
Charles Lewin, of Watford, wine-merchant, was called. In
consequence of infortnation he received he went with Mr. John-
son to search for the body.' They arrived at a pond called Hill-
slough, on the road to St..Alban's, in the parish of Eletree,
on the right road as you go to St. Albats's. After searching
for five minutes, a ladder was got, and the body was found.—
' A sack was over the upper part of the body, and the legs were
naked—the mouth of the tack was tied round with a cord, at
the end of which was tied a piece of stone, and a handkerchief
filled with stones to prevent the body from fleeting. There were
stones also in the sack.'
Mr. George Jones, of Stanmore, was present when the sack
containing the body of the deceased was cut open. The hands
were crossed on the chest—under each arm pit was a large flint
stone. The legs were also crossed and confined with a cord,
which secured the sack round the body. There was a red
shawl handkerchief round the neck of the deceased.
Mr. Heward was then called in • He stated that lie was the
proprietor of the cottage occupied Probert at Gill's-Hill ;
it was it'leasehold, and he let it furnished ; witness lives at 03,
Hatton-Graden ; knew Probert for four years ' • on Wednesday
last had Probert's goods seized for rent. He had heard some.
thing of this affair, and therefore he made the seizure. Wit.
ness saw a carriage in the yard of the cottage on the Tuesday
morning before he had the seizure made, and understood Pro-
bert was going to move. Witness was in the house on the
Sunday after the murder. lie saw a person at the kitchen
door on that day e he believed front description that it was
Hunt ; he was brushing Isis coat. Witness, on the same day,
went with Probert to Mi. Nicholls. They were in converse-
tion about the house when Mr. Nicholls said—" By-the-bye,
Probert, do you know any thing of a gun going off in the night
down your lane the other night r I suppose it was some of
your friends got groggy, and fired a
,pistol to alarm some one
going by. nave done the same thing in my younger days."
Probert said lie did not know any thing about such a cir.
cumstance. Do you riot recollect any thing being said that
night about filling up a pond in the garden ? On recollec-
tion, witness remembered something was said about filling up
the pond, and he said they ought to drag it first, as there was a
good stock of fish there. There was sonic large fish there, for
he had put some weighing a pound three years before. After
they talked about the fish, Philip Smith said, that on Friday
night, about half-past eight, as he was going along the lane with
his wife and a Mr. Osmond, he heard a gun go oil; and after.
wards groans, and would have gone to see what it was, but his
wife would not let him. He described the groans as violent,
and said he :stopped and listened till lie heard the last of them..
Three or four minutes might have elapsed before he heard the
last groan. When the conversation finished, Mr. Nicholls
said 4. 1 thought it was a joke, but nosy I think it was some-
thing more actions." Probert was present the whole of this
time, but said nothing particular; lie denied all knowledge of
the affair. Witness afterwards returned to Probert's house, and
he said to him as they walked along the road, what is all this
about ? and Probert said, " I don't know." On the sane day
he saw John Thurtell and two other persons come toward Pro.
bert's house; one of them was Mr. Noyes, and the other be
supposed to be Mr. Thornas.Thurtell, as he had beard he was
expected. John Thurtell and Noyes were in a e;ig, the other
was walking. Supposed they all came together. Witness then
retired, and saw Hunt ' • lie could not swear to him. The per-
son
he saw was a black whiskered man.
The CORONER said, the prisoner Hunt had large black
whiskers at that time, but he admitted lie had since shaved
them off
The witness thought it was a black coat the man lie saw was
brushing. Nicholls, as well as Smith, said on the Sunday that
it was a gun they heard go off. Nicholls did not say he had a
pistol anti a Italie Wilds possession. 'Witritsis believed he said
he had been to the spot in the lanet and saw some blood, but
lie did not make the slightest allusion to the pistol which since
appeared to have been then in his possession. He said some-
thing of the hedge being. broken. On Tuesday morning wit.
ness met Mr. Phillip Smith in one of his fields. Witness was
shooting. Mr. Smith said, "he believed there was something
more serious in what they bail been talking about on Sunday."
" Why ? said witness. " Because," said he, " I have been at
the place again, and have seen some blood, and the hedge is
broken, as if a body had been dragged through ; besides, a
pistol and a knife were found." " A pistol !" said witness, in
surprise, and Smith answered in the affirmative. Witness then
said, " Good God ! how could you keep it a secret ?" Smiths
added, that it could not rest now, and on witness asking where
the pistol was, he said he supposed the Magistrates had got it
by that time.—The Coroner here remarked, that Mr. Nicholls
having complained in a letter addressed to him of the observa-
tions which he hind felt it his duty to make on his conduct in
keeping the fact of finding the pistol a secret, he desired it to
be understood, that the present examination was to shew that
those observations were fully justified.
The witness considered that Mr. Nicholls was extremely cul-
pable in not disclosing sooner the fact of his finding the pistol.
After he left Smith on the Tuesday, he met Nicholls, who said
to him, " Why this is likely to be a serious matter that we
were talking about on Sunday night ;" and he added, that it
seemed as if there had been a murder committed. Witness

lunched with Probert on the Tuesday, but nothing was said of
the suspicion created in witness's mind. lie knew of no pe-
cuniary transactions between Probert and Nicholls.
Some conversation now took place between the Magistrates,
the Coroner, and Mr. Noyes, the Solicitor for the prosecution,
as to the course which it nnght be expedient to take with re-

speet to the confessions of Bunt.
The Coroner said it was his duty to inquire into all.- the cir-.
cumstances of the murder, and use every exertion in his power,
to unravel the whole affair : he should, therefore, have Bunt
brought before him, and whatever he thought voluntarily to
state, it ass his duty to hear; but he would hold out no pro-.
raise, nor would he give him any hope from' any disclosure he
I might choose to make. The prisoner, Hunt, was then called
I in. His whiskers had been shaved oft; and he came forward

apparently not much affected by his situation.
The CoRONER then addressed him to the following effect
:=-
" I have thought proper to send for you, Hunt, to ask you
whether you choose to make any statement to the Inquest which
is now assembled ? I think it my duty, however, in the hrst
mstance, to explain in whit manner I shall receive what yol!
may think peoper to say c—l shall not receive it as evidence;
nor shall I examine you on oath ; if you think it right to say
any thing, I am ready to hear you ; but from me you are to
understand that yeti-hay:l no sort of promise, either of reward
or otherwise. I have nothing to do but to receive your yolsl-
taty account of the horrible transaction, to which our attention
is now dicected." • Mint said he was ready to repeat what he

had Already said.
Mr. Nom.. the solicitor for the prosecution', now appearinK
anxious that the prisoner should not act under a misapprehen-
sion, interposed, and said that the confession made by him be-
fore the Magistrates coul-.1 not in any way interfere with the
proceeding in which they were engaged that day.. The Ma-
ghtrates would, in good faith, and at the proper tine, submit
the .confession be had made to them to the consideration of
the Court, in order that it might operate in his favour. 4that
he might now say in no way compromised the Magistrates,
and must come froth hiMself on the terms stated by the Cu-

rosany.merto.r.o
Gentlemenlsom.--Thanktthebediyneaoguth,stoiflilas,n William
lit, um% ;
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on to StUSWer
Ciliation:
CORONER.—I am now' eady to hear. any thing you have to
led into any mistake, desired that he might retire.
Heving left the room, a couvetsation took place o to the ex-
pediency of taking his statement, When the Coroner thought
that with the caution he had received, his story might be fairly
heard, and he was bound to receive it. prisoner should not
Hunt being again recalled,' ' . ..
Mr. Noel. addressed hint thus :—" Since you have been out
of the room, a discussion has taken place on the part of the
Magistrates to whour you made a confession under a pletigee
and. they think it proper that you should understand their pledge
does aot extend to any thing you may say here. They wits
state your confession to the Under Secretary of State, with the
circumstances under which it was taken, and it will no doubt
receive a fit consideration. You will now use your own nitreise-
tion, and either tell your story to the present Jury or
you think proper."
The CortoNEn—W e are willing to receive any statement -
you may give us, but we do not aele you to commit yourself in
any way whatever before this Jury.
Hunt—l perfectly understand, and I shall tell the whole
truth. He then gave the following statement in a cool, col-
lected, and precise manner, occasionally sighing heavily, as he
paused for it to be written down. • ,
HUNT'S CONFEsSION.--(FURTHER PARTICULARS./
In consequence of an indictment against John Thurtell and
Thomas Thurtell, for defrauding the County Fire Office
theof
1,900 and odd pounds, Thomas and John Thurtell left .•
Cock Tavern, in the Haymarket, and took their residence.
at a Mr. Tetsell's (the Coach and Horses) in Conduit-street,
Bond-street. I was invited to dine with them. I called there
on the friday morning, when John Thurtell invited me tp e
kung'
tak
a walk. I walked with him as far as High-street, ork.-
bone. We stopped at a jeweller's shop ; while we were 100
there, John Thurtell observed a pair of pistols, which he said
he would go and look at, fur he wanted to purchase sole.
They were marked U. 17s. fid. John Thurtell observed, Ile
wanted them to kill cats, and paid for them 11. fie. From therhu-
e
we returned to the Coach and Ilorses, and dined. John a
Tr
tell asked rue after dinner if I knew where I could get hint
o
He gave me 11. Ns. for the gig, for which I paid 1/. 51. n
told me not to say that the gig was goin g te Hertford, but
to
Dartford. I returned with the gig to the Coach and Horses
about a quarter before five: John Thurtell immedietely eg
into the gig, said he- could not -wait any longer as he bed *
(lentleman to meet. After he was gone, Mr. irobert said tO.
me, as John 'Morten has gone down to the cottage,ehave (t)'
being out against him fur the conspiracy, inost likely
any objection to take a seat in my gig, as he (John Thurtel )!.$
spend ti pleasant evening together. About six ()se clock opri:thl.'
obliged to be out of the way, in consequence of the watren4
&flit:ore:, a awit v.‘
feoa.
unrlxesar
Lug,
rpi
lepo,lirts.rtic i
.0, le
lA,esitrtort.o.:
;slip: tre,
d:
,ii),..aew.tr Ltt,
as
said
porkoirdh
ro
ktows g.
we
gi
shop,
mit it. ou; thetww tlei
ed:
jwies,
of out
and purchatted a loin of pork. We proceeded from tlieee ei
far as a Mr. Harding's, a publican in the Edgeware-rod,
where we had a glass of brandy and water. From thereel
proceeded as far as a Mr. Clarke's, another publican, sedTe
two more glasses of brandy and water; from there we precte"4
to this house. We had three, but from what appears fool, 1,,,"
landlord (Mr. Field), we had five more glasses. We di,‘':;,-2:
get out of the gig here. Mr. Probert observed to Mr. Fiel4,'-
the friend that was with him could sing a very excellent sotl',
Mr. Field said lie should be very happy to hear one. Mr. irli,),l
bent wished me to Mug a verse, but I declined. We Pllf dee
from this house about a quarter of a mile. Mr. P. stopped t;teiliel
and said to me, "If unt, you get out, and wait my return; in,
so. About half an hour or more might have elapsed wheeoeei
P. returned, and desired me to get into the gig, and we wej it
Make the best of our way to the ( onage. Wen we tali"' oi4
the cottage, John Thurtell was in the stable. Mr. Probertio
to me, " Hunt, take that loin of pork out of the gig 4„Vit,Jf.
into the kitchen, and desire the cook to dress it inneo',44ees
I took the pork into the kitchen, and retnained in tbeh"it-fa!'
about ten minutes, when John Thurtell and Mr. 1"N`40,10.
lowed. We went into the parlour. I was introduced tope'
Probert. John 'novel' then called me and Mr. Probkere el,
so rash an act?" John Thurtell immed
the garden, and said, " I have killed that -e--- it Hirsh'
of 3001. at Nina hoary" (a game at cards)- --- ilt, -
said Mr. Probert, " John, study yoa liave not been te'l)„o.eit
you bet°
pocket a very handsome gold watch, Tad" hi' D° wil,llte
me now ? and if' you will go with me, you - .
I shies
ward, „ Th„ hat
lies dead behind a hedge." Mr. Probert then ,et otel
taken such an effect on me, that I must retire and
agsbtotelbo
brandy." We then went into theparlour; thenrePe;ve ,lit d')sr
in, which consisted of Turk chops, the loin I on`, &Ole
. and se ita
having been cut into chops. I eat five chops, , earepliii„,
Probert. John Thurtell declined eating ant', al"le - went le
of being extremely sick. Mr. Probert and 1 then .4 Set4e.
the garden again, when Mr. Probert said to nle,,, 1 ow,
lade. lA'
Hunt, this titan has not been guilty of In ~, wog) kel
served it looked very, suspicious, he (Jolla
''''di and °se
Well, tOOK ut,
ing so valuable a watch. John Thurtell followe , _ eed_ee,
Mr. Probert and myself if we would accomptenYtoo )eirrir,f
sist him in carrying the dead man. During ti,1150. neither
Probert wits gone to bed. John Thurtell gait', entil,Pope
you will assist, I will go myself. He accortlinglY woe
pre, ':, it
self, and was gone about ten minutes or a ettattl to , `,alit
Daring the time lie was gone, Mr. Probert Old eve ,e.,
this is the case, Hunt, that John. Thurtell has ro"trilYiett,
man, it will, ultimately, be the ruin of me and niX,,,11.0.0;
J. Thurtell returned, saying "
After this conversation was over between ine antli.-2e'ye telqes
and if you won't, assist me, I shall put the b,, rte
and throw the dead man across has back." tile prelOttet,
put the bridle on his horse fir that pnrpose. intoAl.r' ,ire r;10,,,
me, while he was gone the second time; went 1 Ileetes
anti he said to me, " Hunt, this has taken such et ~, lee
and I am so agitated, that I don't know what to olt;;oesive ie
what will my wife think? I observed to M1'401101,101
may do as you please about going to bed ; e , eftrerteet.,
bed, as 'I am confident I shall not be able to sleeP, yea leo se,l
heard this horrid account from John l'hurtell.e, I. ?cob ,jele
then returned to us in the parlour, and said to M.fr lobpe,
mself " I have thrown the dead man into Mist tt ,o, 0
This ---. is too ecene ivy
.Wit
"}Then by ----, Sir," said Mr. Proberte ' 1 1" ~rePar, it'
immediately going and taking him away, arm). rd.e, iitv,
d witetl +;00 i bri`
best, and John Thurtell went to the soil _ b,,e
,a,
~,
toes of a man, or we hail at least evetyasn to eleittUotl
such conduct will evidently be my ruin." Me $ e 641 tt°'
a man according to his own statement. John ?ere eir•ie
eot a fine or rope and threw it round the feet, 11,;,e0
.),,tio„
Mr. Probe* " don't give yourself a ntoment tin I tp)ro 1 i q.,
man shall not remain here long—you Well know,
.. or'iOolif 4,4;4
said "you are that would injure ruovlle,fit V
I would not do any thing
We then went into the parlour ;J. Thertell.tiew , jr.Deeyeee
it to .the centre of the pond. John 'Thurtell I'"esoinr,t,tir.
some chairs. Mr. Probert went up to his wtfo_t. e ,tit'ler,?
in an arm-ehair. Nest morning, after breldnlort_Viipl
I shalrexpect you will return to-morrow (.`,, ii't
i tt 0, 4
which I promised and did. Mr. Probeit sen. Jul,et, ceoo,o,
" Mind and bring a piece of roast beef with •besiteptieil
have nothing for dinner." We then left tt,e,eo,eeto„o„
to London. I left John Thurtell at Mr...ieflor.a,ol/o,itei!
and Horses) with his brother Thomas. il'itg egtottf4i,4,
going to town,". to tue and .1 elit_o,,4l
„te leo,
we left Mr. Tetsell'e in a horse and gigs tm.itAia Jtiot 4,1.r0,
of roast beef and two bottles of runn,, ivy lin) thief
to me, when we got as far as Tyborn, ,„,,e.,4 0.,„1 of '
a-head and Thomas Noyes." (Thomas 17;l'fbotte"
indite of Mr. Probert.) \Viten we got to we