The Sun.
London, England, 1824-03-03 00:00:00

WATER' WORKs—Cheltenham

POLlCE—Bathgate—Bill read a first time.
IMPROVEMENT—Brompton-square—Petition of Owners and
Occupiers of Houses, against, referred to the Committee 011
the Bill.
CANAL RESERVOIR—Dearne and Dove—Bill read a second
time, and committed.
ComPANY—Blining (Ireland)—Petition of the Association for
working Mines, &c., against, to. lie on the table.
POOR—Hull—Petition from Kingston-upon-Hull, against,
lie on the table.
COAL DuTiEs—Petitions against the Duties on Coals, from
Bungay,' Aylesford, and Stamford—to lie on the table.
PUBLlCANS—Petitions of Licensed Innkeepers and Victuallers
of the Wards of Cripplegate Within and Without, Coleman:
street, Sutton-in-AMA:lade:Reading, Great Yarmouth, sri."
Skipton, for the repeal of the increased Duties on lA'
cences ; to lie on .the table.

. . .
PENITENTIARY (Milbank)—Mr. 13ransby Cooper, Mr. B.
Gordon, Mr. Tremaynei Sir John Virtottesley, and Sir M•
Ridley, added to the Committee.
FISHERIES (Scotland)—Petition of Merchants, &c. of Ar-
broath, for a general regulation of the Laws applicable to the
Salmon Fishery ; to lie on the table, and to be printed.
Wocm—Petitions of Merchants, &c. of Bradford,' Baildnu,
Horton, Bingley, Bowling and Wibsey, Thornton, Clayton,
Shipley, Wilsden, Birkenshaw, and Allerton, against alte-
ration of the Laws to prevent the exportation of British
Wool; to lie on the table.

WINDOW TAX—Petition of Inhabitants of St. Anne, Wee
minster, and:St. Mary, Lambeth, for repeal thereof; to lie
on the table, and to be printed.

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY.
I. Mr. Curwen—Copy of Memorial concerning the absence of
the Attorney-General from the Isle of Mann; also, CopY
of Patent of his appointment.
2. Mr. Wallace—Select Committee on Foreign Trade.
ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR THIS DAY..
1. Supply—Committee.
2. Marine Mutiny Bill—Committee.
3. Clergy Residence (Ireland) Bill--Second Reading.
4. Ways and Means—Committee.
5. County Courts Bill—Second Reading.
0. Mutiny Bill—Committee.
7. Revenue Inquiry Bill—Third Reading.
8. Church Rates (Ireland) Bill—Report.
9. Four per Cents. Bill—Committee.
10. Postage Rates Bill—Committee.
11. South American Postage Bill—Committee.
NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY.
Thursday, March 4.
Sir Robert Heron—Bill to prevent the necessity of renew,'
of officif.l appointments on the demise of the Crown. (Dg'
ferred from March 4.)
Friday, March 5.
Mr. Attorney-General—Bill respecting Insolvent Debtors•

Tuesday, March 9. •
Lord Viscount Althorpe—Correspondence between Richa-rd
Newton Bennet, Esq. and Mr. Gregory, in the year 1023,
respecting the suppression of an Amnesty to the Ribbo?
Lodges in Ireland ; also, a Memorial from,Messrs. Leslie
and Gore to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, on the case°f
Thomas Hughes ; also, any Correspondence between the,
Irish Government and ie Magistrates of the Counties 0'
Mayo and Galway, respecting an Amnesty to the Ribbon"
men in 1820.

Tuesday, March 23.
Mr. Wilmot Horton—Bill for the regulation of thie.-11!3,
foundland Fisheries.

Tuesday, April 6.
Mr. George Lamb—Bill for allowing persons prosecuted f°E
Felony to defend by Counsel. (Deferred from March
PRIVATE BILL—SEcoND READING for This DAI
Camerton Inclosure.

ASH WEDXESDAY.—HoIiday at the Bank, Exchequer, East'
India and South Sea Houses.

PRICE OF FOREIGN STOCKS IN LONDON, Mutat $,

French
Russian

AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Five per Cents. 102.
Scrip, 15i pm.
Six per Cents. 00.
Five per Cents. (Metallic) 00.
Ditto New 94.
Five per Cent. Bonds, 87i.
Scrip, 12i prem.
I Five per Cent. Bonds, 1820, 00.
Ditto 1821, 24k.
Ditto 1823, 19.
Prussian Five per Cent. Bonds, 981.
i 1 Ditto New, 96.
Danish Five per Cent. Bonds, 99..
Portuguese c Bonds, 92.
1 Scrip, 7.
Peruvian Scrip, 00.
Chili 831.
Colombian Six per Cent. Bonds, 68.
Mexican . Scrip, 8i prem.
Poyais I 00.
1 New, 00.
( Hullett's, 1 prem.
Mexican Minest Anglo, i prem.
Greek 21 prem.
Bank Shares £23 2s. 6d.
Seven per Cent. 95.
Six per Cent. 94-102.
Five per Cent. 100-102.
Three per Cent. 76k.
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Neapolitan
Austrian

Spanish

American

HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO .MORROW
Morning, 2 minutes after 4. 1 Evening, 17 minutes after 4•

THE SUN.

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LONDON,
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 3, 1524.

Charleston Papers to the 25th January,ar-

ved this morning.
[From the Charleston-Courier of the 17th.1

(FROM BRAZIL PAPERS.)—In the proceedings
of the General Assembly we find the report of a
debate, which continued several days, on the
subject of the titular honour of the Marquis Of
Maranham, which had been conferred by the
Emperor on Lord Cochrane. Senor Monte-
zuma contended, that the appointment should
not be confirmed, inasmuch as the Assembly bad
passed no law authorising such appointment
The Resolution was supported with considerable
warmth by many Members ; others were or
posed to any proceeding on the subject, upon
the principle, that under a Monarchical Govern-
ment it was an inherent power of the Executive
to create Nobility, independeut of any legislative

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6th No►.

We learn that General' Apodaca, formerly
Viceroy of Mexico, was daily expected at the
.11avannali, from Spain, with 'about. 4000 troops ;
-these were- to be joined by such as could be
spared from Havannah, and from thence proceed
to Mexico.

FROM ST. JAGO.—By an arrival in 14 days
from St. Jago de Cuba, we learn, that a Colom-
bian fleet, consisting of three vessels of war,
arrived there about the 10th or 15th of Decem-

her, with the Spanish troops of the garrison of
Puerto Cavallo. The boats, with the Commodore
flit board, were beat off with stones, by the
•Spaniards, at St. Jago, and a guard of soldiers
Were sent to protect them on landing.
Paw( lIATANNAII.-13y. the schooner Martha
we have received Havannah-Papers to the 6th
January. By an arrival idflavannah in 18 days
from St. Jago de Ulna, information was brought
that all the vessels of the expedition destined for
that place had arrived. The greater part of the
City of Vera Cruz was destroyed, and the com-
munication between the Blaugulla and the Castle
Was uninterrupted.

CITY, Twelve o'Clock.—Consols opened this
Morning at 93, at which price they remain
"Pady up to this hour, with little doing.—This
day being a Holiday, the Bank is shut ; but the
Stock Exchange and Foreign Market remain
°pin• Up to this hour Ido not hear of any Ex-
Press from Paris having arrived, which is sup-
Posed to he owing to the boisterous weather
wh►ch prevailed yesterday. We have no reports
of any description in the City this morning.
FOREIGN MARKET,-.The above Market opened
this morning in Mexican Bonds, which were done
at
8% French Scrip appears to be on the rise,
and in demand. The Greek Scrip is steady.

VVhatever may be the diversity of opinions on
the subject of dispute between the LORD CHAN-
CELLOR and Mr. AnuncnomuiE, it is impossible
to read the attacks in the Public Press upon the
Noble Lord, without indignation as well as re.
gret. Is the eminence of his station to exempt
him from the feelings unavoidably incident to
human nature ? The Noble and Learned Lord
found himself attacked in the Parliamentary re-
report of a Public Journal. His conscience ac-
quitted him of all intentional offence, and he con-
ceived that he was only supporting the dignity
of his office, and vindicating the purity of his
conduct, in animadverting upon the imputed
charge, without reflecting whether that charge
was faithfully reported, and even then, the words
which he uttered were not marked by anger,
though that feeling has been so freely imputed
to him. We may even ask Mr. ABERCROMBIE
whether, if he were in the same exalted station,
and had been subject to the same charge, he
was likely to have expressed himself in cooler
and :wore measured terms. We conceive that a

sense of wounded honour might have operated
'with equal force upon his own feelings, and have
drawn forth language not less exceptionable.
Is one of the purest, wisest, most learned, and
conscientious Noblemen, that ever occupied his
elevated station, to be subject to all the ribaldry,
all the rancour, and all the abuse which anony-
mous, low.rn'tided scribblers, have poured with
impunity upon this truly venerable individual,
who is the ornament of his Country, as well
as of the office which he has so long and so
honourably supported.—This is the first charge
of the kind that was ever brought against
the Noble Lord, and, considering the whole of
the case, all of which he can be fairly accused is
of baying too precipitately given way to feelings
'ncident to human nature, and most likely to
arise in a mind conscious of its rectitude. We
are persuaded that no liberal person in this or
any other country can read the indecent levity
and vile slander which have been directed
against the Noble Lord, by lit@rary assassins of
character, protected only by their obscurity,
Without feeling strong resentment and lamenting
s° daring an abuse of the glorious Liberty of
the National Press.

We closed our last article on the plans of the
CLlANctuort of the EXCHEQUER (see THE SUN
Of
Monday), by quoting the resolutions passed at
a 1311131iC meeting of the manufacturers, merchants,
woolsta
Piers,&c. of Brad ford, and w hich expressed
the lc
greatest alarm" at the proposition for per-
rutting the
exportation of British Wool. On re-
ferring to our Parliamentary Report of this day,
the
Reader will see that already eight petitions,
4,igned by upwards of twelve thousand persons in
Yorkshire, have also been presented to the
house of Commons, by Mr. WORTLEY, against
game proposition, and praying to be heard by
c "use' on the merits of their case. So much
Gr the question respecting the exportation of

Wool! As for the proposition to permit the im-
portation of foreign manufactured Silks into this
country, we refer to the subjoined extract of a
communication made to the Silk Trade by a de-
putation appointed by them to confer with the
CHANCELLOR of the EXCTIEQUER upon the pro-
posed innovation, for their own declaration of
the " grievous calamity" which its enforcement
will entail upon them,and of the ruin with which
the execution of this " practically-difficult and
hazardous experiment" will threaten the "very
large capital" embarked in their manufacture,
and the " very numerous population" depending
upon it for their daily bread, and whose "se-
curity and subsistence are involved in the issue of
the question !" Thus far the Silk Trade !
With respect to the third branch of trade, the
Linen Manufacture,which the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER proposes (as it now exists), to make
the subject of an experiment, Lord DARNLEY
contended last night in the House of Lords
that the repeal of the bounty on Linens would
ruin the infant manufactures in the south of Ire-
land ! and letters already received from Dundee
in Scotland, state that it has been estimated in
that town that the repeal of the bounties on Linen
will have the effect of depriving fifteen thousand
persons of employment !—From the North of
Ireland the cry of alarm has not yet been heard ;
but it will doubtless reach the ears of Parliament
in the course of a very few days, unless indeed
Lord LIVERPOOL is correct in his belief that no
coarse Linens are exported from that country,—
an opinion,however, which we think his Lordship
will find on inquiry to he erroneous, and that on
the contrary, thousands of persons depend in
that country upon the continuance of foreign
orders, which are always, we believe, for a cer-
tain low quality of Linen, conditional as to the
price, and which would therefore be excluded
from the market upon an advance of a single
half-penny per yard ! To the propositions affect-
ing the Herring and Whale Fisheries, no opposi-
tion, we believe, has as yet been offered by the per-
sons concerned in them : nor are we so sufficiently
acquainted with the present state of those interests,
as to be aware whether the continuance of the
bounties is really necessary or otherwise to their
prosperity. Considering the insignificance of the
amount of the bounties, and the magnitude of the
concerns upon which they are bestowed, it is
probable that the Fisheries will be but little af-
fected by their repeal ; but if they are now la-
bouring under adverse circumstances, the insig-
nificance of the bounties would, with a practi-
cally enlightened Legislature, be a motive for
incrcasing the encouragement, instead of furnish-
ing an argument for the cessation of the trifling
favour now conferred upon them by the country.—
But whatever may be the true state of the question
as affecing the Fisheries, there is, as we have satis-
factorily shewn, no doubt whatever as respects
either the Woollen or Silk Manufactures ; and
it appears by a letter in our present Paper from
Newcastle, that even the very limited applica-
tion of the general principle of free trade to the
supply of London with Coals, has produced con-
sternation amongst the coal owners of Newcastle,
&c. who see in the measure " most disastrous con-
sequences, as well to the great nursery of seamen
in the North, as to the important interests of the
aggregate body of Coal Owners of North'rnber-
land and Durham !" Several Ship Owners at
Newcastle had also called a public meeting to
concert measures on this " alarming occasion,"
though according to the letter of our Corre-
spondent, a counter placard signed " A SIIIP
OWNER," had prevented the Meeting from being
numerously attended ; but our Correspondent
expects that 46 by and by, there will be a
much greater stir !" As respects tile Coal
question, it ought certainly to be considered
solely with relation to the effect which may be
produced on the great nursery for seamen by Mr.
ROBINSON'S proposition ; and if it be thought,
after due and careful consideration, that that
proposition would injure the Coal Shipping
Trade (and we hesitate not to avow our belief
that it would be deeply injured by it),
then the prohibition against the supply of
London with inland coal ought to be continued;
and if it be thought a hardship on the inhabitants
of the Metropolis, notwithstanding the superiority
of their pecuniary circumstances to those of the
rest of the nation, that they should be ex-
clusively burthened for the preservation of a
nursery for seamen, then let the duty on sea-
borne coals imported into the port of London
be wholly repealed : and let the burthen be sus-
tained by the nation at large,in the shape of some
other tax in lieu of the Coal Duties. In the
mean time these " alarms" from all quarters
are very pretty confirmations of the assertions
that " the accuracy of the principle of free
trade is generally admitted and universally
recognized !" We have now before us a stand-

ing Memorial to the contraty in the Corn Laws,
and we have also the instant Declarations which
have been made to the contrary by all the parties
at present proposed to be made the subject of an
experiment by Mr. ROBINSON ! Let Mr. Ito-
BINSON, for the mere curiosity of the thing,
and for the sake of ascertaining the real senti-
ments of the whole of the people, upon a question
which, if not as a general principle, at least in its
respective details, the whole of the people tho-
roughly understand,—let Mr. ROBINSON, we
say, for the sake of making an experiment
upon public opinion, only propose to apply the
general principle to the various concerns of the
people, enumerating those concerns by their
names, as he has done the Silk and Wool Trades,
&c.; and he will soon hear this 46 universally
admitted" general principle denied in ten thou-
sand voices of uppaling dismay and consternation
from almost every quarter of the Empire !—The
whole of the people are as deeply interested in
the fate of the present propositions of Mr.
ROBINSON, as if all their interests were imme-
diately involved by them. The Silk and Wool
Trades are the present subjects of experiment ;
but all the other interests of the country will
be brought into the same peril in their turn ;
and even the Land Ownersiwill, unless they suc-
cessfully oppose the new system, soon feel its
destructive effects.

The following is the extract from the docu-
ment put forth by the Deputation of the Silk
Trade, to which we have alluded above :

" We cannot, in the present circumstances of the silk trade,
nor in any alteration that will follow immediately on the remis-
sion of duty, admit the possibility of introducing foreign-
wrought silks for home consumption.
" We are firmly persuaded, that it will require the experience
of years (in our opinion many years) of what may be the effect
of the repeal of duty, and the remoeal of all restrictions from
labour and capital, with the introduction of considerable im-
provement in the machinery employed in this manufacture,
before any safe practical opinion can be given on this momentous
question. We submit, that, under the factitious system on
which this manufacture has been conducted in this country, its
various interests and establishments have become so complicated,
and so dependant on prohibition and protection, that a return
to the. principles of political econorry of the present day (how-
ever just in the abstract) is, to this manufacture, matter of
great practical difficulty, and hazardous in the experiment.
"We implore the Government and the Legislature to con-
sider, that, under the existing system of prohibition, a very
large
rcnapuimtaelrohuass
poberenuleamtiobr
has ked,beoens
taught
t employment
dependoffo _rwhich
a
sistence ; and is involved.
that in this question the security of the former
and the subsistence of the latter
,4 we intreat his Majesty's Government to admittlie
withestion
of remitting the duty on silk to stand entirely unconnected
any alteration in the prohibition that the silk trade now enjoys,
—as we do not hesitate to declare, that though this remission of
duty under judicious regulation, would be a boon to the trade,
giving to all its departments increased activity and strength,
yet, were the remission coupled with any determination to in-
fringe on the prohibitory system, now, or at any time, which
could be at present determined upon it would be regarded by
all classes of the trade as a grievous calamity."
"After a patient hearing, his Majesty's Government de-
clared that they will not separate duty from prohibition,—and
tri h l
this
t 3
most lareh.
important''
subject
that the representations of the deputation shall have immediate
attention. JOHN PHIPPS, Sec.
"Nvivre shallLondon,eavers'alrl,esti
if possible, in our next.

It is not true, as stated in some of the Morning
Papers, that Colonel FRE
EMANTLE has proceeded,
or is about to proceed, to Mexico on an import-
ant mission.

By an abstract return,
ordered to be printed
by the House of Commons, •
it appears that in the
year ending
-five sth January 1824 there have been
,
imported into Great Britain from Ireland, one
fiveht ti zdgarreudttliez
rdsfifis- thousand three
of ‘v heat, oats, barley,
millionhscu hundred
idt
fourarneedhundred and eighty-three thousand
two hundred and tWeiii,y-sh
cwts. of flour and oat-
meal. These large exportations of food have been
made from a country the peasantry of which are
unemployed and starving, and have been brought
into the markets of another country, whose soil
more than sufficient for population are much
and partially unemployed
producing a superabund-
anceagricultural interest is
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the effects of excessive
production, or rather from those of an insufficient
demand, and which demand could be immensely
increased by the full and profitable employment
of all the working classes! The present relative
situation of England and Ireland furnishes, in-
deed, an instructive lesson in political economy ;
and in innumerable points of view it proves the
pernicious fallacy and consummate folly of the
prevailing theories in this most important branch'
of political science. By wise and skilfully-
devised arrangements, and regulating laws, all
the population, both of Great Britain and Ire-
land, may, of course, be profitably employed.
Even the wildest and most visionary theo-
rist cannot be so extravagantly absurd as to ima-
gine for a single moment that there are any physical
obstacles to the employment of the whole of our
population, or of four times the number of our
population, in valuable and productive industry ;
nor can any one attempt to deny that productive
employment can ever in any case be unprofitable
either to individuals or the State, except in con-
sequence of a want of skill in its direction and ap-
plication to such purposes as the real wants and
necessities of the nation require. All the unem-
ployed labour of Great Britain and Ireland,
therefore, might, by skilfully devised Legislative
arrangements, be so applied as to be in the high-
est degree beneficial, not only to the labourers
themselves, but to the owners of property of
every kind, to the community at large, and
to the Revenue ; for every fresh applica-
tion of productive industry is necessarily
followed by the creation of new and increas-
ed wealth ; and the same act of legislation which
provides for the production of new wealth, may
and can also provide for its distribution in such
a manner as shall be advantageous to all the in-
terests of the state. Notwithstanding the incon-
trovertible, and, indeed, in the strictest sense,
self-evident truth of this plain and practical pro-

position, -the Iprevailing, theorists have unfortto
Aptely succeed in' imbuing the Government, and
the Legislature. AOth; the fallacious idea that it i$
-the best and wisest' -cottrsV not to
,attempt:to
. which it is .nndeniable
legislatiOnl could successfully ~accomplish ; and
that on the'contrary; With all the means. of treat-
ing universal prosperity thus acknowledged to beat
our disposal, we ought to wait patiently, undel
the infliction of interminable difficulty and po-
verty, and disappointment, for the chance that
that may be effected by accident, and by ths•ma,
glad influence of a free trade, which we have
only seriously to attempt, and skilfully to con,
trive, in order to succeed in certainly, speedily,
rand most happily accomplishing! There is not a
shadow of an argument that can be advanced
against this position.
. The same Parliamentary Return also states the
quantity of colonial wheat imported into Great
Britain in the year ending sth January last, at
50,968 quarters, and of meal and flour, at 3,815
cwt.

German Papers have arrived, in which appears
an article extracted from the Piedmontese Ga-
zelle, dated Corfu, Jan. 24, giving an account
of the notification of the death of Sir Thomas
Maitland, by the lonian authorities. The efent
having been made known by formal proclama-
tion, the colours of the fortress and of all the
vessels in the harbour were loweied halfway,
and the batteries fired 65 minute guns, in corre-
spondence with the age of the deceas...l. The
Senate subsequently issued a public notice, in
which, after speaking in terms of high eulogy of
the late High Commissioner, it is ordered—

" Art. 1. That from the date of the promulgation of these
presents in all the islands of these States, all public business
shall be suspended for 3 days, in the offices of the Government,
the courts of justice, and before the Magistrates.

" 2. All places of public amusements, spectacles, circles,
shops, &c., except those of the necessaries of life, and of
apothecaries, shall be closed for fi days.
" 3. There shall be a general mourning throughout these
States for 1 month.

" 4. The funeral obsequies shall be celebrated for 3 succes-
sive days in all the churches of these islands.
" 5. These presents shall be printed in the Greek and Italian
languages for the general information.
" By order of the Senate,
" Corfu, Jan. 24, 1824. SIDNEY G. OSBORNE.'