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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, ER: 15:
ne SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'C:ock.
POOR-LAWS.

Mr. EASTHOPE presented a petition from the
Guardians of the Leicester Union against the Poor•law
Arnendm: n t Bill.

Sir HUSSEY VIVIAN presented a petition float
Launceston in Cornwall, praying for certain alterations
in the present Poor-laws.
Mr. ORMSI3Y GORE presented a petition from
the County of Carnarvon, against the existing Poor-
laws.

Mr. CLAY presented a petition from the Guardians
of the Whitechapel Union, against the Poor-law Amend-
ment Bill in its present state.
Mr. T. PARKER presented a petition from the at-
torneys and solicitors of Preston, praying for the re-
moval of the Courts of Law and Equity, at present held
at Westminster, to the vicinity of the Inns of Court.
Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition from the
Association of West India merchants of Glasgow
against the equalization of duty on East and West
India produce.
Mr. Sergeant JACKSON presented a petition
from a bookseller at Gorec, in Ireland, against the 'ex-
isting banking system.
CHURCH EXTENSION.

Sir ROBERT INGLIS presented a petition from
the county ol Sauth4mpten praying for Chu►ch Ex-

tension.

Mr. ORMSBY GORE presented a petition from
Osrvestry in the county of Salop, praying for an ex-
tension of the means of spiritual instruction in the Co-

lonics.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from
Manchester, praying for the pardon and restoration of
Frost, Williams, and Jones ; also a petition from an in-
dividual-named stoAdale, iriainst the New Poor-law
Amendment Act.
EXPORTATION OF MACHINERY.

Mr. M. PHILLIPS presented a petition from Man-
chester, praying for an alteration of the laws relating to
the exportation of machinery.
ST. ALBAN'S ELECTION.

The SPEAKER having announced that ha had re-
ceiwed petitions against the late return for St. Alban's,
Mr. M.KENZIE moved that the Speaker should
issue his warrants for such persons, papers, and records
as the parties concerned in the petitions against the re-
turns for Canterbury and St. Alban's shall deem ne-
cessary.—Ordered.
COPYRIGHT OF DESIGNS BILL.

Sir KN A'tC II BU LL presented a petition froni
Nottingham in Lvour of the Copyright of Designs Bill.

Mr. L ABOUC HERE presented a similar petition
from Messrs. Hargreaves and Dugdale of Manchester.
Mr. S. O'BRIEN presented a petition from the rate-
payers of Limerick against the Bill for continuing for
so long a period as that proposed the power of the
Poor-law Commissioners. The petitioners also com-
plained of that clause in the Irish Poor-law Act which
threw the support of paupers on the districts in which
they had been last residing previous to their going into
the work-house ; the consequence of which clause was
that such places: as Limerick were often unfairly
charged with the tupport of parties who had lost their
tenements in the country adjoining. The Hon. Nletn-
ber also presented a petition from Newcastle, in Linn.-
rick, against Lord Stanley's Irish Registration
Sergeant JACKSON expressed his approval of the
petition complaining of the clause in the Irish Poor-
law Act. _ .

Mr. LAW HODGES presented a petition signed
by the members of 2.2. bend% societies, complaining of
the conduct of the Poor-law Commissioners to the mem-
bers of those societies. He wished to know whether
he coull move to have the petition printed.
The SPEAKER said that the rule was that no
Hon. Member could move that a petition be printed
unless he intended to found a motion thereupon. 'Pm:
petition must be referred to the Committee on Public
Petitions.
Mr. LAW lIODGES then presented a similar pe-
tition, agreed on at a meeting of members of benefit
societies in.. the county of Kent, and signed by the
Chairman on behalf of the meeting. Also a
petition from some parish iu the county of Kent, ex-
pressing the alarm of the petitioners at the Bill for
continuing the powers of the Poor-law Commissioners,
and praying the House not to consent to the Bid.
Mr. MACAULAY presented a petition from the
CoAege of Physicians of Edinburgh, praying for a re-
form in medical education ; also a petifion in favour
of the Copyright of Designs Bill ; also a petition from
the Chamber of Commerce of -Edinburgh, sealed with
theirecommon seal, praying for an alteration of the tariff.
Mr. MILES presented a petition from the parish of
Hinton Blewitt, Somersetshire, in favour of Church
Extension.

Sir E. L. BULWER presented a petition in favour
of the Copyright of Designs Bill ; also a petition pray-
ing for an extension of literary copyright..
RAILWAY COMMUNICATION WITH IRE.

LAND.

Mr. W. 0. STANLEY said, seeing the Hon.

Member for Carnarvonshire in his place, fie begged to
adc him if be intended, during the present Session, to
bring forward any motion tending to impugn the Re-
port of the Commissioners appointed in consequence
of the resolUtion of the House to survey the different
lines of railways between London and Dublin, in order
to find out the best part for the departure of the mails

Mr. ORMSBY GORE, Jun., replied that at pre-
sent he had no such intention, but he reserved to him-
self the right of doing so at any future time. lie con-
sidered the subject of great importance not only to the
nation at large, but also especiuliy to his constituents.
He would not pledge himself that he would not bring
forward such a motion at some future time, and in any
course that he might adopt he would select what he
considered the most speedy and efficacious mode of car-
rying his views into effect. if at any time during the
Sessio❑ he thought proper to make such a motion,
he would give notice of his intention.

Mr. W.O. STANLEY rose, and said " he must re-
quest," when he was met by loud cries of " Order,
order," amidst which the Hon. Gentleman resumed his
seat.

Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition from Man-
chester, praying for the repeal of the Corn-laws.
Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition from the
Operative Association of Salford against the Poor-law
continuance Bill.

Lord INGESTRIE gave notice that to-morrow he
would call the attention of the House to the sailing
of the Niger expedition. _ .

Mr. F. MAULE gave notice on the part of the
Lord Advocate, that on Monday next he would move
for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws relating to
the registration of voters in Scotland. _ _

Sir G. CLERK moved for a return of all the sums
issued for the payment of the Army, Navy, and Ord-
nance departments for the years 1839 and 1840.
Mr. O'CONNELL—ReaIIy I have been treated in

such a way by the Hon. Gientleman opposite that I ob-
ject to the motion. Nn notice of it has been given.
Sir G. CLERK—They are already in the House.
Mr. O'CONNELL, under the eircumstaucc.s, would
not press his objection.—Ordered.
PRIVY COUNCIL.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved for returns
of the number of the days the Judicial Committee of
the Privy Council had sat during each year for the
seven years ending 1840, the number of appeals dis-
posed of in each year, and the number of cases at pre-
sent. in arrear.—Ordered.

On the motion of Mr, W. MILES, a return was
ordered of the number of men, women, and children
in the several workhouses in England and Wales—the
amount of the population in each Union, and the
cost per head of each pauper in the workhouses.
Sir S. LUSHING'I'ON moved for a continuation
of the papers which had been laid on tho table of the
House respecting slavery in the East Indies after the
Slbt of July, 1838.
FOREIGN WINES AND SPIRITS.

Mr. GROTE begged to ask the Right Hon. Gentle

man, the President of the Board of Trade, a question
respecting the duty on Foreign Wines and Spirits.
It would be in the recollection of the House,
that the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in laying
before the House the Budget last year re-
served a particular sum in consequence of the
contemplated reduction of the duty on foreign
wines and spirits. He believed it was understood at
the time that negotiations were going on with the French
'Government, connected with the reduction of thtne.

duties. Now, the present state of uncertainty respctet-
ing, the duties GCI these articles had occasioned very con-
siderable inconvenience to the trade, and his question
was whether the IVglit Hon. the President of the Board
of Trade still anticipate l any probable completion of
the arraug.ements with the French Government for the
reduction of these duties.
Mr. LABOUCHERE, before he answered the

question of the Hoe. Member, would take the liberty
of setting him right upon one point in which he thought
he was mistaken, with respect to what had fallen from
his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer. True his Right Hon. Friend did say lie thought
it right to reserve a certain sum for duties which he
apprehended would be diminished in consequence of ne-
gotiations then pending, but he thought his Right
Hon. Friend had guarded the House carefully that the
duties would be reduced upon wines and brandies, or
any particular class of spirits. He quite admitted that
the suspense occasioned by the protracted nature
of the negotiations going on betweenthat

PRICE sd.

country and France had caused great inconvenience
to the trade, and it would be very desirable to put an
end to that suspense as speedily as possible. Under
ordinary circumstances he would have felt it his duty
to urge upon the French Government the speedy set-
tlement of the question, and he certainly should have
done so were it not for motives which would obviously
suggest themselves to the House. He was, how-
ever, now enabled to state that he hoped in a very
short time to give a satisfactory answer to the Hon.
Gentleman's question.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE.

Lord J. RUSSELL said, with respect to what
had been stated on a previous night relative to the
intention of. her Majesty's Government to oppose the
13i11 of the Right lion. Gentleman (Sir E. Sugdeu) op-
posite, he (Lord J. Russell) was not prepared to state
at what stage of the proceedings that opposition would
be made. The Noble Lord was also unable at
present to state all the reasons and grounds—
which he wished to have an opportunity of stating—
for not acceding to that Bill.

Sir E. SUGUEN was understood to say, the Bill
which he had the honour to bring in, had a right to go
pani passu with the Bill of the Noble Lord, but he
would accede to the Noble Lord's proposition of letting
the discussion take place on the Bill going isto Com-
mittee rather than on the second reading.
CUSTOMS ACTS—DUTIES ON RUM.
Oa the qu'astion being put that the Report on the
Customs Duties' Act ba brought up,
Mr. O'CONNELL, who was but very indistinctly
heard in the gallery in consequence of the great noise
in the House, said (as we understood) that he wished to
observe respecting this Bill, that it was one calculated to
do much more good to England than to India. It was
calculated"to diminish the price of rum for British con-
sumers. -It was important to manufacturers that the
'price of sugar should be as high as it was. It was also
tidvautageous in this light, that it would imreaso the
market for the British manufacturer. Thus it
was peculiarly useful to the British President.
Haring intimated some opposition to the Bill in the
first instance, ho had waived that opposition in COISS`.!••
quenee of the Right Hon. Gentleman stating► that the
question of slavery ought not to be brought forward in-
cidentally. Tee returns moved for by the Right lion.
Gentleman the Member for the Tower Hamlets would
afford additional light upon the subject, which was of so
much importance to the well-being of India, to the ad-
vance of civilisation, and to the. extension of Christianity.
Torso were considerations of the utmost magnitude,
and the House could not have too much information
before it went into a discussion of. the subject. The
Session, however, ought out to pass over without a more
ample discussion taking place upon those topics than
had been had in preceding years. Another important
topic related to the lauded tenures in India, or rather
to the want of landed tenures in the greater portion of
India. There were portions of India under what was

termed the permanent settlement. That was a sub-
ject of extreme magnitude, and one which he would, if
no other Member did, bring before the House before
the present Session closed. There were immense dis-
tricts not permanently settled, The landed revenue
was assessed either on communities, upon something
of the nature of corporations, or of individuals
under the denomination of ryots. It was not
denied that the natives had a right to the soil. It
was said the India Company had no right to the soil,
jut they claimed the right of assessing what they termed
land revenue, which in reality was rent. He did not
think the right of any man to land could be valuable

when another man bad. the right and the power to im-
pose whatever rent he pleased upon the premises,
followed by the sale bf the interest of the individual, if
the rent is not sufficient, and accompanied by all the
,vi!s which must necessarily attend so unsettled a state
of things. The general rule in India was that no man
was proprietor of the land. In many districts in which
wen laid out their capital this thing was only certain,
that decreased produce brought with it increased rent ;
and he believed it would be found that this system
was universally followed by the increase of the jungle.
As cultivation decreased the jungle increased, which
was inhabited by wild beasts.of every description, and
almost forb;cl the residence of men in its vicinity. He
believed the people of England were not apprised
of the horrible consequences of this total insecurity
and absence of all title for the land. He happened
to have in his hand 'a list of the periodical famines
in India, calculated from the year 1760 and

1761, the period in which Lord Clive might
io3 said to have established our empire in this country.

1n the year 1766 there was a famine, another in the

year 1777, another in 1780, another in 1782, another
n 1792, and another in 1803—thus giving a famine
in each cycle of 10 years. But let the House
mark how they had increased of late years. In
the year 1804 there was a famine, in 1819 there
was a famine of longer duration and greater extent than
had perhaps before ever been witnessed. In 1824
there was a famine, in 1829 there was a famine, in
1832 there was a famine, in 1833 there was a fa-
mine, in 1836 there was a famine, and lastly, in 1837
there was a famine, which extended to 1838, existed in
1839, and which it was doubtful was even now terminated.

These increasing periodical famines were also increasing
wore horribly in extent: During that of 1837 and
1338, it was necessary to employ men to shove the dead
bodies into the rapid part of the stream of the Ganges.
Nothing could exceed the horror of the scene. The
polluted land was covered with carcases—the ave-
rage destruction was 10,000 per month. He attri-
buted many of those famines to the state of the
landed tenure there. He was sure the Company had
❑ot acted wisely even with regard to its own revenues.
In the last thirty years there had been seventeen or
eighteen years of famine, during which English sentinels
or sepoys were placed along the banks of the rivers to pre-
vent mothers from drowning their infants.—( Hear, hear.)
He had thought it necessary not to allow the ques-
tion now before the House to pass over without saying so
much on behalf of the people of India. But as regarded
the measure itself, he gave it his most cordial support.
Mr. HOGG said that if a discussion were opened
upon the subject to which the lion. and Learned Gen-
tleman alluded, it would occupy more time than could be
afforded on the present occasion. With respect to the per-
m lnent tenure, it could not be doubted that the Marquis
of Cornwallisestablished it from the best of motives. But
it had not been productive of the good that was
expected. Its effect was to constitute the Ze-
minders absolute proprietors, and to deprive the
rest of the population of the rights which they had
from time immemorial enjoyed.—( Hear, hear, hear.)
Though that settlement had some advantages it was
also attended with inconveniences, which induced the
Indian Government to be cautious in extending it to
other parts of the country. He would also observe to
the lion. and Learned Gentleman that ho should not
hastily adopt every statement connected with India
that might be found either in the newspaper or in
pamphlets. There had been, it was true, local
famines in India, but every one acquainted with India
must be aware that the assertions of the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman on that subject were altogether
exaggerated.
Mr. O'CONNELL said it should be understood that
he did not mean to make an attack on the Esst Indian
Government. _ _

Mr. HU NIE said that the matter was one of great
importance both to England and to India ; and he would
urge his Hon. and Learned Friend to select a day on
which the subject would be brought before the House.
He believed that any one who paid attention to the
affairs of India must have heard with great regret of the
statements made at different meetings respecting the
proceedings in that country, and which statements he
(Mr. Hume) believed to be in many instances altogether
groundless. It was not true that so many famines had
taken place in India as his Hon. and Learned
Friend had mentioned —(Hear, hear.) There might
have been much wanted in certain districts, but
such cases could not be considered as general famines.
With regard to the creation of the tenure in India, it
was a subject of great difficulty, and one which the
House might more conveniently discuss at another
moment.

Mr. O'CONNELL had been misunderstood by his
Hon. Friend. He (Mr. O'Connell) had expressly
said that he did not believe these famines bad been
universal, that he did not believe that all of them bad
been general, but that he did believe that many of them
had been purely local.
Mr. EW ART rose on account of an observation
which had fallen from the Hon. and Learned Gentle-
man, to the effect that the measure would be of greater
benefit to England than to India. Now from the evi-
dence taken I,clore the Committee of last Session, it
was manifest that the measure would be very benficial
to India, because in the manufacture of rum and sugar
they must employ the natives of India. It was the
most economical plan to do so. This would be also
beneficial to England, because it would increase the
market for British manufactures ; be thought, therefore,
that they must admit that the measure was a great boon
to India as well as to England.
The Report was then brought up. On the motion
that the Report be agreed to,
Mr. LAI3OUCHERE stated, in answer to a ques-
tion from Mr. Goulburn, that the sole object of the
Bill was to place East India rum on the same footing
as West India rum in England, Scotland, and Ireland.
The Report was then agreed to, and a Bill founded
on it ordered to be brought in. Subsequently Mr. LABOUCHERE brought in the Bill for the
Equalization of duties on East and West India Rum,
which was read a first time, and ordered to be read
a second time on Friday next.