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No 15,152

WALSALL ELECTION COM-

MITTEE.

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PRICE sd.

The Committee met yesterday at eleven.
Mr. AUSTIN replied to the argument of Mr. Wrangham
on yesterday. The Learned Gentleman went through the
evidence at great length, for the purpose of showing that
treating of an illegal nature had taken pace at the late elec-
tion ; contendir g at the same time that 11r. Gladstone was
indirectly connected with it through his recognised agent, Me.
Barnett. There could be no doubt but treating had taken
place at the New Inn, yhere, according to the evidence of 31r.
Kilner, the proprietor of the inn, refreshments to the value of
kW. had been furni-hed in one day, one night, and part of
another day ; and from further evidence it appeared that the
refreshments had been given for the purpose of keeping certain
voters together. The corn exion of Mr. Barnett w•:th these
proceedings was proved from his having forwarded a list in his
own hand-writing of the partiesqo be received a. the inn, and
from the fact of his having called there between four and five
o'clock on the morning after the nomination. The Learned
Gentleman having gone through the various points in
the evidence concluded by expresing his confidence in the
newly-constituted tribunals of the House, and leaving his case
in the hands of the Committee. _ . .

The room was then cleared, and the Committee having been
nearly three hours in deliberation, it was announced that the
Speaker was at prayers. Leave was given on the application
of Mr. Hayter that they should sit until five o'clock. In the
course of a short time, however, the room was opened, and it
was announced that the Committee had come to the following
decisions:—

" That Mr. Thomas Gladstone is duly elected to s?rve
for the Borough of Walsall in Parliament."—( This announce•
ment was received with some tokens of approbation, which
were immediately suppressed.)
" That the petition was not frivolous or vexatious.
" That it appears to the Committee that a system of treat-
ing to considerable extent prevailed in the borough, but
from the doubtful nature of the evidence the Committee
could not connect it with the sitting Member."
The proceedings then terminated.
ST.

ALBAN'S ELECTION CO3l-
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The Commit'ee having re-assembled,
Robert Howie was called in and examined by Mr. Ha at
YARD.—On Monday, the day of nomination, he drank tea at
Mrs. Kent's. Adams and Stebbing came there between six
and seven. Adams showed him two 51. notes and 2 sovereigns.
Mr. HILLYARD—What are the numbers of the notes?

Mr. COCKBURN objected to the question—the beet evidence
of the notes was the notes themselves. A note was a written
instrument.

Mr. HILLYA RD only warted to have the notes so identified
as that they might be proved, if produced.
Mr. COCKBURN did not think it was necessary for him to
detain the Committee in arguing that %Itich was the founda•
tion of the law of evidence.

The COMMITTEE.-1 he question cannot be pressed.
itness took the number of the notes and the name of the
bank by which it was issued. He put the notes and sovereigns
in a paper, upon which he wrote his name. It was sealed by
Adams, and also in two.'places by Mr. or Mrs. Kent's seal.
The parcel was neveritut of Adams's possession. Stebbing pro-
duced the same amAint, which was put up in the same manner,
and Stebbing took-possession of his parcel.
Cross-examined---Mrs. Kent's was opposite the Market-cross
of St. Alban's. Mr. Kent was a voter, but not a warm parti-
san. Witness voted on the Conservative side, but neither was
he a partisan. 'I he room in which they took tea was intended
to be used as a Committee-room, but it was not so used. Be
asked Mr. Kent, who was brother-in-law, to let the room
for the election, but he had no instructions from any one. He
took it upon himself, as hehad done before. There wasno arrang-
, ment about the price. 'There were voters in it afterwards, but
the room was not used as a Committee-room. There were no
clerks engaged in it. There were six or eight ladies and gen-
tlemen at tea on the Monday ; none of them were voters.
Stebbings was a particular friend of the Ken's. Adams called
him out and told him where he got the money, and who from.
They all returned to the tea room, but did not mention to any
there what had taken place. The parcels were scaled up in
the private room. They remained there about an hour. How
long Adams and Stebbing staid after they left' the private room
he did not knol. He left Stebbing in the house. He had
been away from Mr. Kent's house, but when he left he could
not tell.. Adams went with him, but whether he came back or
not he could not tea. He had been in the room at the Veru-
lam Arms, but never saw Adams and Quin:together.

By Mr. ELLIOT-1 he room was
.hired, but no money had
been paid. He expected he would receive 201., and he ex-
pected it from Nix. Cabbell or his friends.
John Stebbing was called, and up to the fact of the sealing
up of the money fully corroborated the statement made by Adams.
IN hen Webster offered 101. to keep out of the way, he having
promised to vote for Cabbell, witness said-he had been ill for
a long time, and that was not enough ; he afterwards gave him
121. on the afternoon of the next day ; after the money was
sealed up he gave it into the hands of Lord Grimstone. At
the same time he signed a note which was wr,tten by the Hon.
Charles Grimstone; he (witness) dictated the weaning of the
note.' The parcel of money was enclosed in the note, and sent
to Dr. Webster. He had seen that note since in the possession
of Mr. Edwards, who came to him with Dr. Webster some little
...lime after the petition had been presented. It was in the
evening Mr. Edwards produced the note, and said—
Mr. COCKBURN objected. Declaration made by a third party
could not make out agency. If Dr. Webster's agency had been
proved to the satisfaction of the Committee, the declaration
made in his presence would bind them, but agency could not
be proved in such a way.
TALBOT said it was clear that according. to the former
decisions of the Committee words accompanying acts were
clearly admissible—they became a part of the act itself; be-.
sides he was going to prove that it was immediately taken up

by Dr. Webster.
Mr. COCKBURN replied.
The COMMITTEE deliberated for three-quarters of an hour,
when Counsel were recalled, and informed the decision was,
that the answer to the question should not be received—that
applied to what Edwards said.
The Witness in continuation—The note produced by Ed-
wards was the same as he sent back the money in. He was
then asked what did Dr. Webster say. This question was
objected to and withdrawn. He then said he had never re-
ceived the money back.
Cross-examined by Mr. AUSTIN—He was a voter before
last election. He was a voter about twelve years since, but
left for Wickhampstead, and then became a voter again, and
obtained his franchise as the occupier of a 101. house.
He had known Adams three years, and was of the same prin-
ciples. He had promised his vote on the Saturday
Mr. Cabbell and his party came to Kent's. His party
consisted of all the respectable men in the town.
—( A laugh.) He had not been to the Verulam Arms
until after he had received the money from Webster. He
snit a man whose name was said to be Quin. It was at the
Verulam Arms. Had not seen himbefore the election. Saw
Mr. Wingrave frequently. They were at Webster's, he thought,
between three and four, but he could not say exactly. They
afterwards went to the Verulam Arms, and first went to
Mr. Kent's, after nine o'clock. He breakfasted at Kent's
that morning, and saw Howie, Russe'l, and others, were
coming in and out. He was in Kent's until he went out to
Adams. It was several hours. He was in aroom up stairs after
11 breakfast, in that room were Mr. Kent, servants, and children.
He could not swear that he did not see any one else. He was
at the nomination, and went to Kent's afterwards. It was
long after that that he saw Adams standing opposite Kent's
Louse, when witness went up and spoke to him. He slept at
Kent's that night. Slept at home on the polling night.
Mould certainly swear that he slept at home more than one
n;ght after the polling night—he thought a week. He could
nut swear whether he went directly to the Verulam Arms

from Webster's, after receiving' the money. Could not swear
whether he went knywhere in the meantime, nor could
he tell the time, whether it was within half an
hour, or within two hours. Did not know how
long he stopt at the Verulam Arms—whether it was half an
hour or twe hours. He showed them the money there. ,Did
not expect to see Howie at Kent when he went there. He
received no instructions at the Verulam Arms to go to Kent's;
he did, however, go and sleep there. He never went out of the
house or the room in Kent's after he came in from the Veru-
lam Arms. He did not see Mains in Kent's that night. He
saw Howie at the Verulam Arms, but not at Kent's. There
was no party of friends there that night. Howie made up the
money in a parcel ; he thought it must have been on that
night ; it was in a room in Kent's, but he was scarce/y a
minute there. Howie had the sealing wax in his hr;,/d, but
where he got it he could not tell. Saw Lord Grimston at
Kent's on the folowini,6 afternoon, but he would not say at
what time. It migt..tbe between twelve and four o'clock.
Went to Colney Heath from St. Alban's, but did not know how
long after the election. He went by his own directions. His
friends wished him to go. He had not been supplied with any
money to go to Colney Heath. His mother paid for his living
at Colney Heath. He had been out of employment on ac-
count of ill health for two years. He had lived amongst his
friends during great part of the time. He had been
out of health for a long time, and had been in
confinement. He believed hie illness had been brought on by
the neglect of Dr. Webster, and hi believed he had said he
would be revenged upon him for it ;- he had no doubt he had
expressed that determination in the presence of James Law-
rence and Eliza Dollemore ; he had no doubt he had, frequently
stated, even within the last half year, that lie would be re-
venged upon him—he could not like him, of course.
WILLIAm. FoRAF.s AIiKEN ME, Esq., 111. P., was at St.
Alban's on the pollir.g day at the last election. He saw
Stebbings frequently on that day, and was present when
he delivered a parcel to Lord Grimston, Mr. Robert
Grimston wrote a note at the dictation of Stebbings.
The parcel was enclosed in the note, and then taken by him-
self and Lord Grimston to Dr. Webster. Witness waited out-
side ; Lord Grimston was in about five minutes, and in that
time he saw Dr. Webster come up the street. Load Grimston
addressed him. Dr. Webster made no answer, but looked ex-
ceedingly crest-fallen.
What did Lord Grimston say to Dr. Webster?
Mr. AUSTIN objected; his objection was the same as in the
case of Edwards.
Mr. HILLYA RD contended that the question was legitimate,
because it would be impos.ible to support the proof of the
bribery of Dr. Webster, which the cross-examination of an
hour and a half long had been entirely intended to shake.
Mr. COCKBURN argued the point on the same grounds as in
the objection taken to the declarations of Edwards in Web-
ster's presence, being given in evidence. It was distinctly in
contravention of the resolution of the Committee in the fer-
nier case,
It having been announced that the speaker was at prayers,
I the Committee adjourned. _ .

av:tliaodicnumiasobterli EMIGRATION TO AMERICA.—On Monday af-
ternoon, at four o'clock, the Wellington, one of the regular
New York line-of-packet ships, was hauled out of the St.
Katharine Dock, in the presence of an immense number
of spectators, who lined the pier-head on each side of the
lock entrance, to witness her departure, She has on board
160 emigrant?, principally of the bumbler classes, vibe in-
tend to settle in America, The emigrants were assembled
on deck as the ship was being hauled through the lock into
the river, and were bidding adieu to their friends and eel
lives assembled to witness their departure from Old E gra"
land, The scene was an interesting but very painful :Inv"
The Wellington was taken in tow by a steamer, pre,,_-- e.
cceded down the River. She leaves Portsmouth
row, and, in addition to emigrants, takes
cargo, and despatches from Government forOtiotnar
at
great regret that we announce
NlVta iss hiwrgitt hon.
ahawe Donkin, K. Ct.hße.,dcano:
goons illness of Sir Rufane
loncl of the 1 Ith Foot, and Surve
nce,—vnited Service Ga yor-General of the Qrsl..
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