The Sun.
London, England, 1841-03-19 00:00:00

MORNINu EmTioN.

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Ear.e. Ha could not state wily Mr. Earlc's order was
not ol.eyed ; he supp-)scd that gentleman had revoked

that the House was about to abolish the right of peti-
tioning altoe7ether.—( Cries of " Oh, oh," and" Chair.")
The SPEAKER—Phase to bring them up.
Mr. HUME—I will bring them up when I have
explained.—(The Hon. Member was met with loud
cries of " Oh, oh," upon every attempt to explain, and
after several unsuccessful efforts to make himself heard,
he brought up the petitions amidst loud laughter.
Mr. ARCHDALL presented a_p9tition from the
county of Fermanagh, against the Registration B 11 of
the Government, and in favour of that introduced by
Lord Stanley.
Mr. G. W. WOOD presented a petition from a
congregation of Protestant Dissenters, praying for the
abolition of Church-rates, and Eeclesiasticsl Courts.
Mr. GROTE gave notice, that in Committee on the
Poor-law Bill, he would move an alteration of the 17th
clause, in order to proviee more easy employment for
the casual poor in the unions of the City of Lot.don.
Mr. HA LFORD gave notice of some amendments
he intended to propose in the Committee on the Poor
law Bill.

Th,- witness was eico ordered to withdraw.
Tne Mlrquis of N R OMANBY said, as Mr. Phelan
was ordered to attend the House on Monday next,
would their Lordships proceed with the examination of
Mr. Nicholls to-morrow ? They ha I almost all the
beads of the Commission in attendance, and it must lead
to public inconvenience.

The Earl of GLENGALL would proceed with the
examination of Mr. Nicholls to-morrow.

The House then Adjourned at Eight o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, MAltcff 18.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Cloek.
The Whitby Inaprovemerit Bill was read a third
and passed.
Oa the motion of Mr. HINDLEY the British India
Sugar Company's Bill was tell a first time.
The South Western Railway Bill was read a th:rd
time and passed.
Lard JAMES STUART hrtuzlA in the A7dros-
sap Harbour B,F, which was read a firbt time.
Mr. PALMER presented a petition against the
Medical Bill of Mr. Flawm,

FACTORIES.
Mr. F. MAULE gave notice that on Monday next
he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to regulate
the employ:neat of persons in fietonts.
On the motion of Sir HESKETH FLEETWOOD
certain returns were ordered rchtive to the County
Court of Lancaitcr.
Mr. HOGG moved for leave of absence for Sir
Ric'oard Jenkins until after Eater.
Mr. PATTISON objected t.; the motion, and sub-
mitted whetilcr the lion. Mernbcr ought net to state
some special reason for his motion.
Mr. HOGG said he Killed on the ground of indis-
position ; and :vhen he stated that Sir Richard Jenkins
I ad been for two years Cll:lrreaa of the Court of
Directors of the Eist India Company, that
he had boon in coostant attendance ainiost every day
!rain ten td: superadded to his attendance in tliut
House, and tiLat his general by a!th was so impaired that
he Ind Leen ordered to go abroad for its restoration,
he bad no doubt the House would grant the indulgence
asked for.
Mr. PATTISON—I saw Sir R;eliard Jenkins at
the Opera House on Monday last.—(Great liughter.)
I tu,:vt., Sir., that the application be postpo,:ed for a

Mr. EASTEIOPE prescntod th:rty petitions from
various places, praying for abolition of Clutch-
Ertes, the abolition of EcciesiasticA Courts, anti tlic
release of Mr. W. Baines. Also one signed by
six thousand inhabitants of Leicester, of all shades
of religion and politics ; it was ti.gned by the
Mayo:, all the Aldermen, and Commen-Council.
They stated that they had seen with indignation end
regr.t Blincs, a man every way worthy their
esteem and regard, immured in a gaol lor no moral
offence, but merely ler conscience stlke. They bf1.„7.,c
that such a proceeding was calculated to proditte the
grtz.tt.t.'st miseltef, and they prayed for the immediate
herd ion of Baitie.,, for the extinction of Cliarch-
rates, and the abolition of the jai-is:haam of the E,:cle-
sia teal Courts. _

Mr. H. smurii pr-7.sentNl petitions from the BoArd
of Guardians of Li 11::ion in Sointrsetihre o!::ainst cr-
ttin cl:tuses in the I'o6r-1:tv: Amendment and a
petit'ol against any further grel t to the Cillege ol
Navnuotl,.

_ .
Lf )Cl-I preserit 'd a petition from !he Giasgr,r,
aid Greenock CumpLiny, pr sag fr,r
redo..;::on of !IL, du:y on r4llway passen:crs ; a peCt.f.n
from G;asgow prlynig for a rhoWfic,:tion of t e import
duties ; from tic Cit<ctribar of Conuncrao of Giasgow to
Ana:e ; from tho Prf:vcst and Town Councl
of Wic!.. for a r• te d of the Corr:-:awi ; cad fr.otn the
fish coreis rf S..;thori;lnn aid CaiAmess pra;.iol; that
tie Fshing Biard might nut btt aboliawd.
S r. G. CREWE presinica r:titiens from .scytiral
pi,,c(l in 1) :by against certain (I.us:!s in the Poor-lai%
1311.

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rangcrs then ordered to withdratr, but
.Mr. ELLIOT rose and stii(?, that he lioi,cd his Hue.
nicrid would not oppose tl:e motion for lea, e of absence.
Mr. HOGG oot already stwed to the House that
S:r ltichard J:?nkins was ge.icrat y alLcted in his
health, and prliai:s the worst of nil illness was that
affectng; a man s general heaitit—wlen a roan was ill,
and could nut tell wi at was the matte:- with him.—
(Rears of laughter.) lie must txprsss his surprise
that any lion. Membt-r would ( ffer opposition to the
unction under each eireumstivice:.
Mr. PATTISON hoped the Hon. Member's mc-
dieal attevlant would be examiaed.—(o'•.)
Stranger were ordered to withdraw, but no division
took place, and the motion was agreed to.
Ttie droi7Fed Orders were then read over, for the

ROUND presien'el a petition from tbe B a7l
of G,llrtfiarts 4,1 DtLim lii E,sex, praying the conti-
nuane of tho Pcsor-latv Cuniatisf,ioners for five year:,
an,; t it out-door it lid :night be extended in certain
two,.

M. GRIMSDITCH pr,:•seated five petitio:s agaivst
the l':;cr.llv Bi;'.

purcioso of bciug rep!Aced on the Books.
HARBOURS OF REFUGE.

Mr. lIINDLEY prelontca a p,titiun f-ata 6,000
of Asl,ton-tuider is fa.iour Of 0 7etvis-

Mr. RICE, in moving the appointment of a SL:ct
C„mmittce on t4e state of the harbours on the south-

sion•of the sente:lce on Fro,t, WiliArnt,, and Jones ;
frt:in 800 inhal; ttnts of the stow p'w:e ag.;:itist Lord
S anH'6 Irish Itegitr,.fon B 1; a!ld 0130 a petition
pravia; for the anon:ion of Cnaren-r4t.s.
SCIIULEFIELD prt!sented a petition from
li;;Ar.ingth,n) in favour et tae abolition of Church-rates
tl:el.h..ratica of 'AI-. Blincn
Aa lios. '2,lExlar:a pre:crited a petition from a thee
in rouniy O S :rre,y, praying for Church Extensiiml.
l'llr. A. \V HITE pro•ciA.“.l p t tions from the alp-
tists of Neweastic-upoa-Tyne, pray lug for the extinction
of the abolit;on of E.:e!ciiastical
Coq. ts.
Al HON. 'MEMBER pres:lted a petition from Darby,
prA:,ing tt at aNerations be made in the Poor-law
A :pen drn ea t Bi 1.

cistern coast, to whom the Report of the Ccrnmissi:_n
of 1810 should be referred, skid that it would be pre-
surniAuous in Lim to offer any ckpinion as to the merits
of the question, but he would state the opinions of those
'Alio were bent r able to form an opinion on tLe subject.
lie could assnre Hon. Gzr,-,t'ecnon that in endeavour-
iag- to call their attention to the subject, it was his wish
to tlivest himself, as far as possill-, of Every considera-
tion of a I.lca l n tort-. Tk.e question was one of great
national importance, affecting the honour, the security,
and comm:trei,kl prosperity of this country. When he
;list ventured to propose this inquiry to the House, the
only objection urged against it was that it was of
too limited a nature—that it ought to be extended
to other parts of the coast,—(Hear, hear.) Among
those by whom that objection was stated was a Gallant

Mr. H. BERKELEY presented a pct Lion from
Darsit, cbjeetipg to certain clauses in the Poor-law
Anicndwtent lii 1.

Officer, then Member for Davonport, who was also of
opinior, however, that :he inquiry was, in the first place,
immediately necessary to be applied to those narrow seas

Mr. P. FRENCH presentol petition; praying for
the abolition of the teas on Southwark, Vauxhall, and
Waterloo• bridges.
M:. BAILEY presented a petition from the che-
mists and druggists of Sudbury, against the Medical
Reform
Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from
Ply mouth, signei by 1,367 persons, praying fur the re-
lease of Fro,t,_ Williams, and Jones; and another to
the same effect from Tavistock ; also a petition from
an individual named Moyle, residing in Blsckfriars-road, •
praying for the liberation of Mr. Feargus O'Connor ;
also a petition from Sheffield in favour of the repeal of
the Corn-laws.
Col. THOS. WOOD presented a petition from the
Guardians of the Holborn Union, praying for certain
alterations in the Poor-laws. Also a petition from the
Vicar and Churchwardens of Staines, praying the
House to adopt measures to stop idolatrous practices

where steam navigation was carried on to the greatest ex-
t nt. Eve! y friend of humanity must hope that peace should
be preserved, but still its preservation was very preca-
ri3us. The present French Government, to whose po-
licy we were indeLted for peace at the present mo-
ment, had declared that a defensive policy was the most
likely to preserve peAce. M. Guizot, in his speech in
the Chamber cf Deputies, in January last, said that
what England and Germany were doing, was with a
view to preserve peace. But while we were neglecting
the state of our harbours, the French Government was
engaged in improving theirs. Their estimate for this
purpose was 5,100,0001., and in 1639 it was 9.,G00,000/.
It was to this subject the attention of our Government
should be directed. It had also been long com-
plained of that our harbours of refuge were ne-
glected. The great loss of life and property made
this a subject oc national consideration, and be
could assure the House, from his own experience,

in India. ' that it was one which demanded the attention of the
Mr. LUDLOW BRUGES presented a petition : Legislature. The present state of our harbours of
from Bath,praying for increased Church accommodation. ' refuge was a subject of national reproach. When
Colonel SALWEY presented a petition from Mr. foreigners visited this country they naturally ex-
Hayward, a medical practitioner at Eghare, praying for ; pccted to find that the state of our harbours bore nonce
an a!teration in the Poor-laws, as respects the employ- i proportion to our naval and commercial greatness,
meat of medical pract tioners.
' but they finned it just the reveNe. On the very coast
Se- WILLIAM SOMERVILLE presented a peti- to I.vhkh his motion referred, though, during the
Lion from the Ulster Constitutional Association, signed EA ear, millions were expended in erecting what
by the Earl of Charlenioet, and by Mr. Sharman Craw- had been termed useless fortifications, nothing had
ford and Mr. Ross, the Secretaries of the Assneietion, been expended upon our harbours. It was true
praying the House to reject Lord Stanley's DI, for Mr. Pitt entertained extensive designs upon this
amending the Registration of Irish Voters. i subject, which if he had lived he would probably have
Mr. Q. DICK presented two petitions from pieces carried into eff:ct. One great difficulty he (Mr. Rice)
in Essex, against the continuance of the Poor-law believed was that there was no permanent Board in
Commissioners, and for certain other alterations in the the country whose business it was to consider and recom-
Poor-laws. mend to the attention of the Government such plans as
Mr. W. MILES presented several petitions for I might seem to them would be of national utility.
Church Extension, and for certain alterations in the There was one other ground of ebjeetion, that was the
Poor.laws, from Kuaresborough, Castle Cray, and other ground of expense. That, in his opinion, was a lcgi-
places ; also a petition from Durham against the ba3- ternate object for the Government to consider. He
tardy clauses, and for ether alterations in the Poor-laws. would merely observe, that no public money was ever
General LYGON presented a petition from the spent with so much willingness as that which went to
comity of Worcester, praying for increased Church ac- maintain our naval supremacy. He thought the same
commodation. feeling would concede the means necessary for the due
METROPOLITAN IMPROVEMENTS. protection of our ships. His object in asking for the
Mr. GROTE brought in a B:11 fur improving the Committee was to lay the question fairly before the Go-
approaches to London-bridge. The Bill was read vernmeet, for he thought it was a question of too much
a first time, and ordered to be engrossed. importance to be dealt with by any individual Member
BELFAST HARBOUR,
of the House. Considering that the Government had
Mr. E. TENNENT obtained leave to bring in a j granted the Commission of Inquiry, he did not think
Bill to alter and amend the Act for improving the port he was asking too much when he called upon the House
and harbour of Belfast, to grant a Committee to consider the Report of the
MAYNOOTH COLLEGE. Commissioners. He would therefore move that a Core-
Mr. C. BRUCE presented a petition from the i mittee be appointed to consider the Report of the Corn-
inhabitants of Elgin against any further grant to the mission of Inquiry into the state of the Harbours on the
College of Maenooth. North-Eastern coast.
Mr. SHAW presorted a petition from Dublin Mr. PLANTA seconded the motion with much
agamet the sale of spirits in that city on the Sabbath- cordiality. It was no party question, and he trusted it
day.
would be considered by both sides of the House in a
Mr. GILLON pre-caged a petition from a place in
Scorland, on spir •it of fairness, and according to its importance. It
the sutject of Annuities and Assurances ;
but the noise in the House prevented the precise im- was seldom that he troubled the House • he
heir ' • for hoped,
port of thetherefore, to bo favoured with t attention a
Petition; and th designation of the nets-
foners, from being heard inthe few minutes while he stated his opinion upon
gallery. Tne
.Hoe-.
M mbcr elan presented a petition the subject. It was unnecessary for him to
for an alteration of
posaloi on railwa s
the. rites and taxes im enter into the details of the question, as they
Colonel PERCIVAL presentQedera petitionys
c from the had so ably been laid before the House by his Ho-
Slier ff and Grand Jury of the
11 ounty, ciotn- nourable Friend, but he would say that the same
plaing of the present adrainistrlioliery:sonf reasons existed for inquiry, as were in existence two
law in rh-
land, and in favour of Lord S Registration Bill years ago, when the Commission was appointed.
in all its details.He trusted the House would not refuse to accede to
Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from the the motion of his Hon. Friend, because he was sorry to
parish of Sr. Clement Danes, praying for medical re- say that the feeling of those parties most interested in
the inquiry was, that the Commission had not very
form.
resented a petition from Roxburgh, materially promoted their wishes or views. He should
Mr. ELLIOT prese d • :
be the last man in the world to saything of the
praying for the release of Mr. Baines and the extinc-
ineeestigation that had been going on, but still it must
eivoaa:erilwerdn,agnonnen had flawed twit of Church-rates. . altowed that so far as any practical result was
Mr. FOX MAULE pro-cote,,
Sect'
~ 4 petitions from Ar- b
Report of
r the Commissioners. He was aware that it
g3le, and various other places in scotanu, praying to
fbowcceadsionfromlikethetheße
the Abolition of Church Patronage.
THE SOCIALISTS. to press forward any particular •
•from the Uni- stress on the wishes • interests or to lay
Mr. HAWES presented a petition of any particular locality, but he
rayingmust be allowed
versal Religionists, commonly cel'ed Socialists, p
the
to say that he considered it to be the
for an inquiry into their doctrines, which they statedi duty of . representatives of the people to
arc now misunderstood and misrepresented. I makeknown in that House the wishes of their con-
Mr. • ts A meeting of
HUME presented a petition signed by several. stituen .
.._
.. the inhabitants of the
thousands of the Universal Rational Religionists of Be.- borough with which he had the honour to be connected
mingharn to the same effect ; a petition from the medi- took [dace, at which the Mayor presided, and at that
col practitioners of Kilkenny and its vicinity in favour of meeting resolutions in support of the views they enter-
the Bill for the improvement of the medical profession in tained en the subject were unanimously agreed to.
Great Britain and Ircl ind. Also a petition from twenty- He did most sincerely believe that it was a subject of
two individuals, members of the National Chartist As- importance,
not only to the place which he had the
soc•arion, complaining of the treatment of Mr. Feargus honour of representiimg, but to the
country at large.
O'Connor, and praying the House to address her Ma- He thought further irilormation than. that which was
jesty for the purpose of granting him a free pardon,
'fined in the Report of the Commission was required,
coot
also a petition from a public meeting held at Binning- 1-• u lit a Cormettee of the House would he
and he s ,o
hem, complaining that prosecutions for time alleged g further the objects which the House
most likely to
crirmi of blasphemy bad been renewed by the present
Government. Toe petitioners stated, that they consi- ought have in view.—( Hear-)
to
having been put,
tiered the law as it now stands on the subject of such The question
of the EXCHEQUER
The CHANCELLOR
- orlon unjust and anomalous. They complained
p, 0.. t.., that they need not
that. Mr. Hetherington bad been lately tried and sea- Hon. Gentlemen
couldhave assure the
of the House
temieed for the publication of' a book ; and they oh- epologised for calling the
attention
not only as re-
to a subject of so much •un eor: a ter',
served that three part:es had been tried for the sale
• l al interests,i but the commercial in-
garded their local
ef a work, the original author of which had given His Hon. Friends
hinnelf up, and had. never been prosecuted. They e:ests and safety of the country.
adduced
1 ie el tost Mr Hayward, who had published Has-
comp 4.1 . t :.a. • had di alt with the general subject, and had
eh a Committee
lairm's Letters, had been brought to trial, and found very few arguments or reasons t y...
• "ty (Cries of gam . " orde-, order.") The Hon. Gentle- should be appointed on the present occasion. If
the lad corns forward with some resolution
'mein proceeded to say, that those were tile statements
to what ought to be practically done, he (the
of tl.e petition ; and if they were not allowed to be
,m aofthe Ex t would have been
read the House might as well prevent altogetner . ~c Chancellor . c 2equer) .
tile right of petitioning. He would say it was folly-- !able to have de alt with the subject, and he should
(Order, order.) He would repeat it.—( Renewed cries I very much like to hear from them on what
of " Order.") grounds they thought any further inquiry was
:The SPEAKER, said that the lion. Member was necessary. The House would recollect that, in con-
quo, out of order 1. IC sequence of a discussion last Session, a Committee
nma kin these observations.
Mr. HUME had a right tostate h• opinions in spite
was appointed for the very same purpose as that for
which it was
of any opposition._ (Renewed cries fis"Order,order.") now proposed to aoint a Committee.
p
The SPEAKER. said thate Ile would not re' fspeeches,h •ht
to ermer or e might
Hon. Member in , rote
presenting a petition!, should the'
,-, iS:IOtV it was then argued and admitted that it was a sub-
co ihne himself to •
t • 1.11 coil I
it. substance. stating jet v• .i c,. - .be nlueh hetter referred to a Commission
Mr. HUME had been doing so, than a Committee. Bat whether the choice then made was
and, if the H,•,;cri •
had been irregular, he was reg right or e wog the Cotornisiionlead reported, and the very
ttler--(Orde order.)-
He bad been about to state the substance ri,
the
same objects, so far as he could understand, which it
tion but he had been prevented ;it appearedo pelt- I was now proposed to investigate before a Committee
to him •