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London, England, 1824-03-02 00:00:00

MERCANTILE

DEAL, MARCH l.—Wind IV.N.W.—Came down from !.he
Ricer 'the Kingstone, Leckie; Reward, Harris; 31aiscisait,
Armstrong ; Frederic, O'Haro, outward-bound Vessels, and
sailed for tlkir destinations.

PoitTsmuuTti, Mauch N.W.—Arrived his
Majesty's ship Bulwark from Plymouth. Sailed the Ranger,
South Seamen, and Elizabeth, Wickham for London.
PLYMOUTH, FEB. 39.—Wind E.—_Arrived the ivneei
Treoleraa, from Messina; Louisa, Le Fevre' from (iibraltar ;
and Dispatch, Jones, from Lisbon ; and Three Brothers,
Brown, from ditto. •

FALIEOU Tll, FEL E.N.E.--Arrived the
Hazard, D'Grouchy, from Gibraltar in 22 days ; Sarah, Grove,
from St. Mary's (Gambia), in 43 days, with loss of bulwarks,
stanchions, sc., and Prince Coburg, Page, from Lisbon, in
23 days. Otf Scilly, the Laurel, -- ~ from Rio Janeiro.
Yanmouru, Mancn I.—lt is feared that at least 2, and
probably 3 vessels, were lost on Ilarborough Sand on Friday
morning.
The Joseph, Holditch, arrived at Limerick from New York ;
spoke the Hannah, from St. John's, N.B. to Liverpool, on tint
llth ult., in let. 51. long. 22., with loss of fore-mast and bow..
sprit i • and the Midas, Prince, from New York to Sligo, on .
he lath ult., 15 miles to the Westward of the Blasi:ens, with
oss of fore-mast and rudder. On the 19th it blew a tretnen.
dous gale from S.E.
Yesterday the Dispatches for St. Helena, Bombay, and China,
by the ship London, were closed at the East India House, anti
delivered to the Purser of that ship.

SPORTING I NTE LIAGENCE.

BETTING .ROOM, MARca

1.-. STATE OF THE ODD&
Iwo wrn•

ninuras
to 2 agst Reformer
7 to 2 agst Prudence
19 to 4 agst Quadrille
13 to 2 agst Don Carlos

12ito 1 agst Sister to Sailor
16 to 1 apt Lymessa
20 to 1 agst Cressida
High odds apt any other.
RT.

9 to 2 agst Swiss
6 to 1 apt Reforms"
It to 1 agst Agnes
12 to 1 agst Ilanshes
IS to 1 agst Reticule
18 to 1 agst Hurly Burly
20 to 1 apt .lessy
24 to 1 agst Don Carlos

25 to 1 agst Bess
25 to 1 agst Skim Colt
30 to 1 agst Cressida
30 to 1 agst Corinne
35 to 1 agst Pantina
3$ to 1 agst Sir Grey
35 to I /tot Dactyls
High odds apt any other.
KS.
12 to 1 apt Rarossa
12 to 1 agst Pope Joan
17 to 1 apt Peele's f.
ST. LEGER►
25 to 1 agst Young Tinker
25 to 1 apt Equity
25 to 1 apt The Miller of
Mansfield
25 to I apt Streatham.

4 to 1 agst Prudence
7 to I agst Sister to Sailor
8 to 1 agst Lyrnessa
DONCASTER

S to 1 agst Swiss
12 to 1 agst Altisidora filly
14 to 1 agst Rosanna
20 to 1 agst Ringlet
20 to 1 agst Miss Cranfield

HUNTING INTELLIGENCE.
MEETINGS OP ROUNDS IN TUE PEESENT WEEK.
The Quorndon Hounds, on Tuesday, at Great Dal by ; Wed-
nesday, at Martinshaw Wood ; Thursday, at Widmerpooi ;
and on Saturday, at Kettleby.
Lord Anson's Hounds, on Tuesday, at Prineethorps Village;
Wednesday, at Coombe Abbey ; Friday, at Wavarley Wood ;
and on Saturday, at Branston Wood.

Tnt Ansty.—lt is said, that Major-General
Lord Fred. Bentinck, M.P. from the Grenadier Guards, will
be appointed Colonel of one of the three regiments of toot, that
are shortly to be raised.—lt is stated that Major-General Sir
James Lyon. K.C.B. and G.C.H. will be appointed Colonel
of another of the said Regiments. It ix also understood that
Major General Couran will be appointed Colonel of another of
the said Regiments.

THE LATE FIRE AT PICKFORIeII WIIARI.—A.
Coroner's Inquest was yesterday held on the
bodies of the persons who unfortunately perished
in the late fire. Nothing new transpired, and the
Verdict was of course " Accidental Death."

FATAL ACClDENT.—Yesterday morning, as a
Lady and Gentleman were riding in a gig along
Blackfriars'-road, the horse took fright, and the
Lady attempting to jump out, got her clothes en-
tangled in the step, and was thrown out on her
head with great violence ; she was immedidiely
taken up, but before surgical assistance could 1)e
had, she expired. The Gentleman was not I+tirt.

THE LONDON JOURNALS.

DAILY
Rxtructs.from the Morning Papers, March 2.

[NEW -TIMES]

A very unexpected and somewhat curious de-
bate sprang up last night in the House of Com-
mons, respecting the privileges of the House.—
On a subject so delicate it may not be proper for
us to enter into particular examination of the ar-
guments used on either side ; suffice it to say,
that the debate arose out of a complaint made by
Mr. Abercromby, of a Breach of Privilege, in
consequence of some remarks attributed to the
Lord Chancellor.—ln one respect discussions
like those of yesterday evening may prove ulti-
mately beneficial : they may tend to place Par-
liamentary Privilege on the basis of clear and in-
telligible principle. At present no small confu-
sion and some inconsistency exist, both in theory
and practice, as to the right which individuals
out of the House possess to animadvert on what
passes within its doors. The common and po-
Ralar notion is, that the Debates in Parliament
are meant to be public in the fullest sense of the
word,and that individuals have the same right to
animadvert on them as
,on any other public de-
bates. But this notion neither agrees in theory
nor in practice with the Privileges of Parliament.
In strict theory, we apprehend, the debates are
private. No stranger is present at them but. by
the indulgence of the House ; and neither Mem-
bers nor strangers have a right to report out of
doors what passes in the house. While this
theory was constantly acted upon, that freedom
of debate, which was necessary for the public
good, could do little or no private in-
jury ; but when the doors were practically
thrown open to the public, and the House
countenanced and encouraged the dispersion
of its debates all over the kingdom by means
of Newspaper Reports, various difficulties
.and inconveniences presented themselves, at
least as possibilities. It became possible for a
Member to stir up disaffection in large classes
of the people by violent and even seditious
harangues, or to hold up to public hatred or con-
tempt the most harmless private individuals, or
the most exalted and venerable Officers of State.
On the other hand, occasion was given for per-
sons who thought themselves injured by speeches
in Parliament, to call upon the Members for ex-
planation, apology, or satisfaction. And a third
class of evils became almost unavoidable ; namely,
that by errors, intentional or unconscious, in the
reports of speeches, all the preceding inconve-
niences might be caused or aggravated. We con-
ceive that due freedom and publicity of the
Parliamentary Debates are highly useful ; we
concei►e that the maintenance of the just privi-
leges of Parliament is vitally important ; but we
do really think, that some better system than that
which now prevails is necessary for the attain-
went of these several and clashing objects., .

• [BRITISII: PR ESS.]
'Thee languor that • has hung as yet around the
present.Sassion was last night completely dis-
pelled in the Lower House. Mr. Abercromby,
earl-Lin' the evening, brought a most important,
charge,., involving even a . breach of privilege,
against no less a.4)ersonage than the Lord 'Chan-
cellOri for language said to have, been..osed,:by
that high-. personage in LincOln's Inn'Hall, on. last
Saturday, when, from the Chanoroßench, he
woi retorted to have charged the' Mo. Member
f6r. Calve' . with direct •-faliabo6d,... A most ani-
mated discussion •succeeded•Xor several hours, at
thb close of. which Mr. Abt4Cremby's motion, for
calling the short-hand writer, Mr. Farquharson,
who reported what the Chancellor said, be-
fore the House, was negatived on a division,
but not by very large. majority. Minis-
ters, of course, threw . the broad shield of pro-
tection round their colleague, as fully as possible,
and Mr. Abercromby lost: his • motion, not by ar-'
gnment, but by numbers.. There can be no ques-
tion, if the Chancellor made use of the language
imputed to him on Saturday, that it sills every
way most unjustifiable. All freedom of .debate,
must cease if allusions.of this sort can be made,
and with impunity. If the Chancellor wished
to refute or deny any of the charges made against
him during the late debate in the Lower -House,
he had other means and opportunities of doing
so. The subject might have been introduced by
any of his friends in the House of Lords.; and
Lord Eldon could then quit the Woolsack, to
offer any explanation of his judicial conduct he
pleased. But the judgment seat of the high
Court where he presides was the last place from
whence coarse aspersions of this description
should have issued. The hasty ebullitions of
temper should there at least be restrained.—
A lengthened possession of almost uncontrouled
power, political and legal, for more than twenty
years, seems to have persuaded Lord Eldon that
he may now say or do almost any thing he thinks
fit. But high as his elevation is, there is a power
yet above him, to which even he must bend ; he
cannot grossly wound either public or private
feeling, and hope to pass enscathed. His con-
duct latterly has formed the subject of strong
animadversion in Parliament and beyond its
doors; if unjustly made, he should have adopted
another mode of defence ; neither the language
lie is said to have used, nor the place selected
for its utterance, were suited to. his - cha-
racter or station. There can be • no question,
that from any other individual the same
expressions, thus • publicly vented would,
on being brought before the House, be voted
a direct breach of privilege, and a com-
mittal to Newgate be the almost certain conse-
quence. .We cannot this morning allude further
to this important .subject. The debate. upon it
will be read with great interest. The Chancellor,
during the discussion, was, we understand, in the
House, up stairs, and greatly agitated. We are
not surprised •he should have felt strongly on. the
occasion. It is now confidently said that his re-'
tireMent i Certain, and• that he will select the
firs`[` opportunity of resigning . his high employ-
niiontS into more popular hands.
.111, fact, such is
the
„AI,IOIVII wish of the must influential ..of his

colleagues. Lord Eldon adds nothing to the
character or popular influence of the Ministry.

r'NORNING HERALD.]
L'
It is understood that the Leeward Island
Packet was seen beating its way into Falmouth
Harbour early on Sunday morning. It is there-
fore expected that the letter bag will be in town
this day, and it is supposed that the packet will
bring something important both from South Ame-
rica I! nd our West India Islands.—The British
Money Market was yesterday in a state of great
activity, and nearly all the Securities advanced,
more or less, in. value. Consols for the April Ac-
count were once as high as 94k, but this very
high quotation brought.so many realizing specu-
lators on the Market, that they subsequently de-
clined in value, wit.] closed at 931, Buyers, with
a good Market.—We had considerable business
doing in the Foreign Market, and almost every
Foreign Security advanced upon Saturday's quo-
tations. The half year's dividend being taken
from the value of Mr. Rothschild's Russian
Loan makes that security appear nominally
lower than on. Saturday, but in reality it had not
declined in value.

[THE TIMES.]
The French Papers of Saturday contain the
results of a great number more of the elections,
the commencement of which in Paris we noticed
yesterday. The telegraph has been put in mo-
tion on all the lines of telegraphic communication
by which France is intersected, and the victories
of the Ministers in the Electoral Colleges have
been transmitted with the same zealous rapidity
as their military triumphs in the Spanish cam-
paign. Nor is this the only point of resemblance
between the two contests. In both, the Ministry
have fought against constitutional rights, so-
lemnly guaranteed ; in both they have exerted
the whole force of the Government in opposition
to the laws which ought to have prevailed in the
respective cases, in both they have practised
a system of delusion, and laid the founda-
tion of ultimate success in a lavish employ-
ment of the means of seduction and violence. Un-
happily, too, in both cases they had to contend
with antagonists undisciplined, acting without
concert, and unprovided with the means of re-
sistance. The consequence has been, that out
of 112 returns (nearly a third of the whole
representation), only nine are in favour of the Li-
berals. Paris, whose deputation was nearly
altogether Liberal at former elections, and
where the most confident hope was enter-
tained of a similar result in this, returns
five Ultras from the eight small or arron-
dissement Colleges of which it is composed. In
the small Colleges of the Provinces, the result
is still more striking in favour of the Ministry ;
and there is almost no doubt that the great or
departmental electoral bodies will send to the
Chamber a very scanty portion of Opposition
candidates. What will become of public dis-
cussion in the next session, when the members
will be nearly all of one opinion ? The phrases
formerly employed in speaking of the Chamber
must be disused ; for instead of having a right
and left side, there will be only one side. The
Liberal Opposition deputies will not be more
numerous than the door-keepers, and equally
inefficient for the purpose of resisting obnoxious
measure, or controlling a violent majority.

[MORNING eon.]
An unexpected but interesting discussion arose
last night •in the Commons on a question of breach
of privilege alleged to have been committed - by.
no less a personage than the Lord Chancellor of
England. The facts appeared ,to be. these :—One-
Ofeur.cotemporaries.gave on Wednesday :list an
incorrect report of Mr..Abercromby's speech on
the practice of the Court of Chancery.. It was
not until-, Saturday morning, however, that the
erroneous...report was sent and put into the hands
of the Noble and Learned:Lord, who noticed it
immediately in Court, and declared that the state,
ment which it contained was " an utter false-
hood." • For this did Mr. Abercromby appeal to
the House to defend its privileges, which he as-
serted to have been violated hi his person.—
Mr. Secretary Canning fully admitted that he did
not understand thedliOn. and Learned Gentleman
to speak personally of the Lord Chancellor in
any one respect ; and that if he had .been called
upon elsewhere to give- his opinion upon that
'speech, he should do the Hon. and Learned Gen-
tleman no more than justice in saying that there
was nothing in it beyond the fair licence of dis-
cussion. He also justly stated, that. he wished
most sincerely that in the interval which had
passed between the publicatian of the speech and
the end of the week, some other and more authen-
tic sources • of information had been consulted,
before the uttering by the Noble. Lord of the ex-
pressions now complained of; and he trusted
that the lion. and ' Learned Gentleman having
most ably and satisfactorily ,cleared himself in
the eyes of the House and the country, would
not-press his motion, and thus preclude himself
from the substantial satisfaction of knowing, that
what be did say would . not have excited those
feelings in the Lord Chancellor, which were ex-
cited merely, by• a statement of what he had not
said. M r. Brougham, Mr. Scarlett, M r, Tierney,
aad Sir James-Mackintosh, contended that the
question no longer rested. between the Lord
Chancellor • and. Mr. Abercromby, and that
the privileges of the House must be vindi-
cated. The Solicitor and the Attorney General.
Maintained . that the Noble. and Learned Lord
had not spoken against the Hon. Member,
.but
against the erroneous statement published in. the
I.).per, and. Mr, Se:retary'Peel strongly urged
that the passage complained of in his NOble
Friend7S.speechi,proceeded from the spurof the
momenti whilst under irritated feelings, and that
in the expression. then, used there was no preme-
ditated intention of violating the privileges of the
House, and above all, no intention. of cOnveying•a
threat to any. professional Gentleman.. Affer a
short reply. from Mr. Abercromby, the House
divided,- and the motion for inquiry was nega,
tived by.a majority. of 151 to• 102. The •Miscel-•
laneous Estimates underwent considerable- dis.
cussion ; in the course. of 'which it • was men-
tioned that Sir • George umont • hod'giiien his

valuable collection of Pictures to serve as a
foundation for the intended National Gallery.
This noble and magnificent donation was the
subject of just praise. It was mentioned by the.
Chancellor of the. Exchequer that Mr. Smirke
has furnished a plan for the New Post-Office,
which has been much admired. It is to be a
structure of great magnitude, with an lonic por-
tico, and windows of a large size, with mould-
ings in bold relief.

EMORNING. CHRONICLEd
The circumstance which gage rise. to a very
warm debate last night in the House of Commons,
forms a singular contrast with a subject of klate
motion in that House, the delays in the Court of
Chancery. It is notorious that from these de-
lays thousands and thousands have been involved
in ruin,during Lord Eldon'sChancellorship,and as
the evil,which has at length become insupportable,
the. delay in. obtaining justice, extends over the
whole of the time his Lordship has held the
Seals, he must either have been unequal , to the
dispatch of the business which came before him,
or he must be chargeable with want of due dili-
gence. Whichever of these causes his Lordship
may assign for the delay, it will be difficult for
him to shake himself clear of a heavy responsi-
bility. If we take the most favourable alternative,
that which has been put forward by his friends, and
say that the increase of business in the Court of
Chancery is the cause of the calamitous delay,
what are we to think of the man who could wit-
ness day after day for nearly a quarter of a
century, the spectacle of one individual after
another—one family after another, sinking into
the gulph of ruin from the impossibility of ob-
taining justice, without stating his inability
to remedy the evil, in order that other
Means might have been adopted with a view to
that object ? It was for him, and for him alone,
to say, either that he was or was not equal to
the due discharge of the business of the various
offices which he filled, and having hitherto re-
mained passive, he is justly chargeable with the
unspeakable mischief which the long endurance
of the evil has occasioned. So long, however,
as the Chancery suitors only were concerned,
the Lord Chancellor was all patience ; and if the
commiserating their fate had not somehow or
other led all persons in the least capable of
connecting causes with their consequences, to
the irresistible conclusion, that on any supposition
his Lordship had to answer for the delay of jus-
tice, so notorious in his Court, his patience
would, perhaps, have been as signal as ever. But
as the evil could not be exposed withoutdrawing
attention forcibly to the cause of it, the Lora
Chancellor's temper at last forsook him. The
debate on the motion of Mr. Williams seems tQ
have not only ruffled his Lordship,
.but fairly
overturned in an instant the system of his
life. An incorrect statement of what fell from
Mr. Abercrombie in the course of that de-
bate relating to his Lordship, by some accident
was the one which he chanced to read ; and it is
curious that in this case,; where lie was himself
concerned, he should neither have examined any
of the contemporary versions, which all differed
from it, nor inquired of any of his friends or of
the author, with a view to ascertain how the
matter actually stood, but at once proceed to
qualify the statement as an utter falsehood,
and to make it the subject of a severe attack
from the Bench on a Member of the House who
e
practised at his own Bar. " We have, said Mr.
a great deal, Sir, of the de-
licacyAbercrombie,
oLord
r Eldon,heard
d
d of his anxious desire of
justice, of that amiable weakness of mind too
sensible to the fear of possible wrong to others,
and too cautious to decide lest . he should
decide erroneously. If this had been a
case in which the right of private parties
had been concerned, there would have been, no
doubt, argument after argument, affidavit and
supplemental affidavit, months and years would
have passed, and the too sensitive mind of Lord
Eldon would have abstained from settling those
claims which it is his duty to decide on. But what,
Sir, was his mode of proceeding when there was
no occasion to pronounce from the seat of justice
an anathema founded on a false statement of
facts to destroy the character of an individual
whom he supposed to have censured himself.
Then, indeed, to the just mind of the just Lord
Eldon, 'there seemed no room for caution—no
time for inquiry. He at once proceeded to de-
cide, to pronounce, and to execute his sentence."

Des•rnucTioN of ''goon-Mtw.—On Tues-
day morning, about two o'clock, Mr. IRVINE,
who carries on the business of cutting wood into
veneers, at -IVood-Mill, on the river lichen,
about three miles from.
.L;Juthampton, was
awakened by the loud barking of his dog, and on
getting out of bed to ascertain the cause, dis-
covered that the premises, containing his
machinery were on fire, and that not a
moment was to be loft in seeking, his
safety. He was so much alarmed, that he
ran with his wife down stairs, almost in a
state of 'nudity. He afterwards recollected .that
he • had some •money, about forty pounds, and
some other property,. in a chest, in his bed-room,
which he was desirous of saving, but on reaching
the room, theLflames had made such-progress, that
he was obliged to make a hasty retreat. From
the. combustible nature of the buildings, princi-
pally wood, tarred, the progress of the fire was
very rapid. Messengers were dispatched to
Southampton for the engines, but ere they could
arrive, not only were the premises of Mr. InerNE
destroyed, but also the corn-mills in the oc-
cupation . of Messrs. Lomett, . which imme-
diately adjoined. From the latter, however,
much flour was saved. Fortunately no lives
were lost. The effect produced by the flames on
the horizon
.and: the surrounding country was
very grand. The fire .is•supposed to have been
caused by the: friction of the .saw, which was
ground some time the evening. before, when sparks
were emitted from it in the same manner as from
a-razor when applied to the grinder's stone. The
premises were insured in the Norwich Union•, and
the•machinern with the stock of mahogany, .&c.
in .the County Fire-Office. The flour, &c. was
4.0 t insured..