The Sun.
London, England, 1812-04-18 00:00:00

PRINCESSES ANNUITY BILL.

On the motion for the third reading of the Bills,
for granting an Annuity to the Princekses,
Mr. TIERNEY assured the House, that he had
every disposition to aot liberally to the Princesses,
but he could not consent to grant the money which
this Bill went to grant. He objealtid to the An-
nuities commencing from the 18th of February, and
to voting so large a sum as 36,00'01. in the present
straitened circumstances of the country. He thought
that it could only be given to the Princesses for the
purpose of laying it by. He did not think the
Princesses themselves wished to have a separate es-
tablishment, and desert their mother. If sepa-
rate establishments were to be given them, other
branches, of the Royal Family were entitled
to consideration. Mr. Tierney contended, that
the burn of 184,0001. voted for the mainten-
ance of the Queen and Royal Family was sufficient
Aithout an additional call. • He condemned the ap-
pOinttnent of four Lords of the Bed chamber—four
Grooms of the Stole, and seven Equerries it; at-
tendance upon his Majesty,, as a wanton waste of
public money ; observed, that only one BUlletin
bad been issued within the morl), and then no
Groom was in attendance. Having. made'a variety
of observations, and stating the necessity of mak-
ing a separate provision for the Princess of Wales
,anti the Princess Charlotte, and also of rendering
the • Royal Dukes independent of the Crown ; he
proposed to leave' out the date of the annuity, niak -
ingahat date pro,pedive, and not retrospeetive.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, 111 ,reply
to the obserNations of the Right Hon. Gentleman,
thought he would not wise, to strip his Majesty in
his excluded state of- all aPpearbnce of dignity.
That' might be the opinion of the Rsht. Hon. Gen-
tleinan.—(No, said Mr. T)—Then, said the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer, 'l.l sincerely ask his Par:
dim, for I understood him tosay that it was not ne-
cessary to have all the attendance provided by the
establishment."—(Yes, said Mr. D. to a certain ex-
tent). With respeaf to the dating of the commence-
ment of the annuity on the 18th of February, that
was done in consequence of the expiring of the re-,
stritStions on the Regent. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man trusted that the House would _ be impressed
with a different sentiment from Mr. T. as tothe.se-
parate establishment propoSed for the PrinceSses.
'There was no disposition on their part to abandon
her Majesty, but it was necessary they should have
the opportunity of removing occasionally from the
scene.

Mr. 'WHITBREAD expressed his surprise that the
Right Hon. Gentleman had not thought proper to
introduCe the name of the Princess of. Wales into
the discussion, or to submit to the House the pro-
priety of introducing into the Bill a separate provi-
sion for her Royal Highness, while he was so libe-
ral to the other female branches of the Royal Fa-
mily. He had no doubt of the truth of the Right
Hon. Gentleman's statement, than' he had communi-
cation with the Royal Personages who were the ob-
jeBs of the present grant, and he had no doubt that
they bad expressed themselt.es perfealy ready to
receive the sum proposed. But be ventured to say,
that the Right Honourable Gentleman had not 'ex-
plained to those Illustrious Persons the present
state of the country, o he was sure- that, they
would not have consented to increase its bur-
dens. ft had been unfairly stated, that he and
those on hii side of the House wished to deprive
his Majesty of the splendour belonging to his
,ex-
alted rank. If any such wish 'were entertained,. it
was by the Right Honourable Gentleman oppo-
site. Of the four Grooms of the Bedchamber, ap-
pointed to attend his Majesty, . three were absent
on foreign service. Was not, that diminishing his
Majesty's State ? If any. part of the Royal Family
should be made,. independent, it was the male
branches; for being Peers of Parliament, they ought
not to be subject to the influence of the Mini;ter.--
In that case, ho A:67er, he thought the establishment
granted them ought to be paid out 91 the Civil List,.
which' with, proper management was well' able
to . bear it. It had been publicly announced
that her Majesty was about to hold a Draw-
ing-Room. The public naturally asked why,
under- such circumstances, the Princess of Wales
had no public appointment, or why, if there was to
be a Drawing-room held, she was not to preside ?-
If the Right Hon. Gentleman held the same opi-
nion with respect to the condu& of her Royal High-
ness as he did formerly, it was his duty to give the
necessary advice in the proper quarter, for the pub-
be re-appointment of the Princess of Wales to the
dignities of her high station.
Sir J. Newrotur asked why the Right Honourable
Gentleman had deviated from the former proceed-
ing of charging the annuity to the Princesses on the
hereditary revenue, for the purpose of charging it on
the Consolidated Fund ?

The CHANCELLOR of 'the EXCHEQUER replied,
that in the former Bill the grant was to take place
at a futtire period, but that in the present 8,11 it was
to take place immediately, and must therefore be
charged on the Fund immediately applicable. In 1806,
when an additional grant was made to the Princesses,
the Ministers of that day naturally, proposed that it
should be charged on the Consolldated Fond; and
he believed no instance could be fou;,d of a grant
which was to take place• immediately havingbeeu
charged.on the heieditary_reveaue.
Mr. COURTENAY spoke to the same effect.
Mr. TIERNEY said, that the presor grant might
be charged 1,11 that part of the Conolidated Fund,
which was constituted by the hereditary revenue.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH,EQUER

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