The Sun.
London, England, 1823-06-16 00:00:00

or LONDON.

,the
sheritracjAapark) whotte conduct had been re-
Afer some conversation as to the order in which the notices
were to be, takent the Order of the Day for receiving the Re.
Lord 11INN I Nif rose, and said he had been deputed_ by A
0101efotlh: MET 13ill was read. when
to O'er some statements and ex.
ferred .te, by the -New, Lord who made. the motion on the state'
of the Scots Representatiou.;
planations.
Mr. CANNING objected to the bringing forward a inatiar.
)tit;HAm concurred, in. this suggestion, jo, he
involving statements and eounter-statements at a time when so
much business stood for,tbe evening.
After a re_
words from i,ord A. lIIIMII.TON,
Lord lii,.spNiNG said he'shOuld, with the leave of tho House,
should aßlsornhaie some statements to make.
~
make his statement on .Tuesday.

BtlEit BILL.
noTwhreect4ivuetesition being put that the Report pf the Jim, filifbe
Alc. DENISON complained of the clause of the Dill which

ceMpelled the Brewers of Table' Beer, who would necessarily
be injured by this measure, from making the medium descrip-
tion of Beer without erecting new premises. This enactment he
considered most unjust and oppressive. TIN Table Beer
Brewers were ready to submit to any penalties to guard the Re.
venue from any infringement of the laws, which was far from
their thoughts. The Bill accompanied by this clause was so
objectionable that he should wish to see it put off' to another
Session, when a Committee might be proposed to take into con-
sideration the condition of the Beer trade in general: Ile moved
as an Amendment, that the Report be received this day three
months.
Mr. MABERLEY concurred in thinking the Bill most un-
fair upon the Brewers of small beer, whose only wish was to be
enabled to retain the bushiest; they carried otr without the great
and needless expense of erecting new premises. Indeed he
could not conceive that any persons would go to the expellee of
erecting new premises in this experiment of the Chancellor of
the Exchequer. The whole state of the trade required inves-
tigation. He should next SessMn move to repeal all the duties
on beer, which would put the poor who bought their beer from
the brewer on k level with those who brewed their own beer.
The duty increased the price of beer to the consumer Id. .per
pot.
Mr. MONCK said, the Bill as it stood gave satisfaction to
no one. The new sort of beer was only epe-sixthstronger than
the present table beer (i.e. instead of stx,', five barrels were to
be 'brevked from a quarter), and with this small -increase of
quality there was an increase of 150 per cent. duty; from 2s: to
55.. a barrel. If,it were allowed to brew beer at Mur barrels .a
quarter, sound beer could be brewed. With this alteration he
would suppornhe Bill ; as it stood he must oppose it.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the re-
strictions on brewing in the same premises different kinds of
beert 'paying different duties, were necessary to prevent frauds
upon the revenue and the consumer, by mixing them. Au to
the proposed change from five to four barrels a quarter, it
would absolutely ruin the porter brewers, whose beer would
be scarcely superior in quality, and who would remain-charged
with 10s. a barrel.
r. BERNAL opposed the Bill. The precautions against
mixing were futile as well as vexatious.
Mr. C. SMITH opposed the Bill.
Mr. RICARDO thought the Bill would be inoperative, and
it 'certainly was very unjust, as it in fact, confiscated the pm-
perty of the table beer brewers. As to -the idea of preventiOg
weak beer being put off on the public for strong, the public
might be very safely left to take care of itself. No harm could
be done by passing the Bill without the vexatious restrictions
at least for a year as an experiment.
Mr WODEHOUSE concurred in the opposition to the Bill,
and suggested that it should be postponed to the next Ses-
sion that a full inquiry might take place.
MARRYATT wished to know the reason of the arbi.
trary distance of 200 yards which was required between one
brewery and the Other ? He knew a Brewer who had two pre-
mises 150 yards distant. The erection of another would cost
10,_obot. •
Mr. BERRIES defended the Bill, and thought the re-
strictions necessary, to secure to the public the fullbenefit
of competition, by bringing a new - race of Brewers into the
market. -

• The Marquis of TITCHFIELD opposed the Bill as it
stood, and considered that it would have no tendency to encou-
rage the brewing of a better sort of Beer, as the bus►ness could
not be undertaken except by those who would incur the expence
and risk of new buildings for the. purpose.
Mr. Alderman' WOOD opposed the Bill, and suggested the
removal of the Beer Duty altogether.
The House divided :
For the Amendment, 26—Against it, 32—Majority, 6.
• The Report was brought up. 0p the motion that it be
agreed to, • '• •
The Marquis of TITCITFI ELD moved, as an Amendment,
that the Bill be recomtnitted.
For the Amendment, 26—Against it, 36—Majority, 10.
The Report was then agreed to.
BARON O'GRADY.
•

Mr. SCARLETT•rose to put a question to his• Hon. Friend
the Member for the town of' Limerick (Mr. S. Rice). He hoped
that his Hon. Friend would postpone his Investigation of this
case till the next Session. If in the mean time the case were
to be gone into, he would feel himself bound to op..
pose it. lie
hoped, however, that
,hia.Hon. Friend would render that oppo'
siuou unnecessary.•
•
Mr S. RICE would state the rounds upon which he wished'
to reply to the question of the Hon. and Learned (7ientlern".
He would bring forward or postpone his motion according
might be deemed most conducive to the justice of the case and
to the honour. of Parliament. He felt, however, that it was a
postponement that ought to have been demanded by the per..
son (Mr. O'Grady) who was most interested. If that • person
should desire a postponement of the inquiry, he would of course
agree to it. For his own part, he deprecated delay, and wou)d.
not agree to it unless it were requested by that lion. Gentle-
Titan. He would not force on the discussion of thequestion,
but he conceived that those who asked for delay were pledged
to the discussion when it did come on.
Mr. SCARLET' said, he did not ask for the delay upon
ikny private or individual grounds, but upon the justice of the
case itself. He would not age from the Honourable Gentleman
a single concession. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. O'Grady) who"
had been alluded to did not make any request upon the subject.
He (Mr. Searlett) had suggested it merely upon the ground that
it was both just and.necessary. •
Mr. Secretary CANNING agreed with his Honourable and
Learned Friend as to the propriety of postponing the discus-
Sion. • He would have proposed that the merlts•Of the question
should be postponed, but in that -he had been -anticipated by
the Iloneurable and Learned Gentleman. He had examined
the question, and he was prepared to vote upon SOMO of the
propositions of the Honovirable Gentleman, • but there were
others upon which, without farther inquiry, he was' not pre-
pared- to vote, and therefore he thought it had better be post-
poned till next Session. •
Mr. S. RICE said, that if the question were postponed, he
could not pledge himself to take the burden of it upon him..L
If the postponement were forced upon him, he would not resist
it ; but for the sake both of those within and thoae •without the
House, he would sey, that that postponement was no act anti
no wish of his. •

Mr. Secretary CANNING said a few words in explanation.
Sir
.L NEWPORT thought the postponement unnecessary.
Mr. C. HUTCH INSON said, that it appeared to hirwthat
the majority of the House would be for delay.
Mr. HUME, though unwillingly,' felt himself obliged to
state, that irthe inqUity were not gone, into, the Learned
Judge who was the subject of that inquiry, would- haveneer.
tali) degree of Winne and Suspicion attached to him ; and this
could perhaps be explained away by that Honourable Gentle-
man, who was mok deeply interested in thosubtect. . -
Mr. WETHERELL-argued in favour of the postponement.
CoL BARRY thought that the subject. should be investi.
gated In sonic shape or other.
• Mr. S. RICE said; that if the question were not now taken
up, lie would not pledge himself to the bringing of it forward
lit
M any future perloci.
r. Secretary INNING declared himself ready to go On
with it now. . .
lilt. Martin. (of Galway), Dr. Lushington, Mr. Peel, and
Mr. Denman, said each a few words.
Mr. 'CANNING repeated his argument for the postpone.
merit. of the discussion, on account at the unprepared, state Of
the House. lle contended the question was one which it
would be highly improper, under arty circumstances, for a
Minister to bring forward, as the influence of the' Giovern-•
went in such a case might be supposed to Convert a trial into a
persecution.:—He adverted to the cases of Lord Melville and
M'arren Hastings, as affording precedent for his opinion, and
declared that, if however. the Bon: Member was determined to
gu Into the charges immediately, he was ready to-give his vote
as an individual.
Mr. _WI Lint; R FORCE was in favour of the postponement,'
on the ground that many *others of the House had declared
that they were not prepared for the discussion.
. .
Mr. S. RICE expressed his regret that this discussion had
taken place, and suggested- that the question should he put
Whether the House would go into the 'consideration of the sub-'
ject, and if it were not -to Are now eotitidered, to what filmic'
time it shintld be postponed. For' his own part he was ready
and willing to eater upon the question, but he would abide by
the pleasure of the House. • '
Mr. SCAR LETT proposed that the House should proceeil.
to the other 'Orders of the Pay. •
CANNING suggested that the better mode would 'be to
moire the Order of thit-Day,,and to move the postponement et
the Inquiry as an Amendment.- • •
then'trioved that the 9th Report of the Corn,
mistioners of Inquiry in Ireland be entered as read.
Mr. SCARLLTT moved, as an Amendment, that the fur.

ther consideration of the said Report be postponed
Session.
HUME opposed the motion, as 'at variance with tle!
honour of the House and the ends of justice.
Mr. SCARLETT etintended it would be detrimental to public to enter upon the qnestion at present, and to pt ipitaie
a diScussion with respect to the character of a high jittliCiel
officer, which could not belollowed up this. Sessiou untlevel“!
House was to sit all the summer.
Mr. C. HUTCIHNSONIai in favour of postponement.
Mr. W. WYNN thought the better mode would he to ret:t
the matter again to a 'Committee.
Mr.lll. A. TAYLOR urged goirf into the inquiry. WI
::a;
W,
a Judge was charged with criminality, he ought either to t, -
fully acquitted, or properly condemned, with as little loss of
time axivasible.
Col. BARRY, unless his Honourable Friend, the Meta z.
for Limerick, or some other Honourable Member, would plet4='•
himself to bring the subject forward in the next Sasaion, would
not vote for the postponement of it.
Sir J. NEWPORT thought the inquiry ought to be pre.,,-
cuted without delay. Why had those who said they had 11;;t
perused the papers not done so ?
Mr. S. RICE stated the various postponements whiCh
already taken piuse. Having been so frequently, when• declared-lie was willing to proceed, met by delay, be woul.l
not pledge himself to bring the subject forward in the next
Session, if it were again postponed. . If it were an accusation
against any one of the .ludgea of Westminster would
• not every Member of the learned profession in this country do.
dare that a postponement of its consideration would be art ;ob.
volute denial ofjustice ?
• Mr. BENNET observed, that his Majesty's Government
were pursuing their usual system, that of endeavouring to
shelter any thing that had the appearance of criminality. Ji e
trusted, however, that their conduct on this subject would
open the, eyes otthe people, and show them what kind of per-
tions.theywere who would- allow'year after year such cluirws
against tOodge of the land to exist without being determined.
Mr.,Secretary, PEEL, .with considerable warmth and vehe..
menco, said, he should like to know ut what period of the
night the Honourable Gentleman, who assumed so high a tone,
came down, and 'ventured to attack his Majesty's Government
for conduct which had been fully explained. The lion. Moth.
ber having- been absent during the whole dischssion, and being,
of necessity„fetrfectly ignorant of what had taken place, came
into the House at eleven o'clock at night, and accused of ti wish
for postponement those who had said that they were zeady to
go on, and did not wish to throw any obstacle whatever in the
way of inquirye-4Hear, hear, hear !}—All the information that
the Hon. Gentleman could have obtained, must have been
second hand, and was evidently erroneous. Having grossly
neglected his Own. duty, the lion. Member' came down at that
late hour, and talked of others compromising Justine I The
question on which the House were about to divide was the'rno.
non of the Hon. Gentleman's Hon. and Learned Friend, the
Member for Peterborough, *for postponement. 'How diet the
Hon. Gentleman know how the !timbers of, his, Majesty**
Government intended to vote nn that proposition P 0111 Y .4311 e
of thern, his Right lion. Friend; 'the Presidenter the Bohn! of
Ct mtroul, had expressed any opinion on the subject:—(Hear,
hear, hear !)

Mr. 13R(1UGIIAM supposed, that having been aliment for
about three hours, he was one of those who were charged by
the Right Hon. Secretary with having grossly neglected their
duty, and of whom the Right lion. Secirtarrauld that, they.
were not entitled to give an opinion on the subject. 'What
was the difference between voting and speaking-? He Who Mid
no right to speak on a question, ought to have no right fo!•feto.
upon it. He was glad to ,hear this new dectrine.- He hoped
it would be consistently maintained. He fitted ••:that in Altura
they would not, during so many honk- In the evening, see
empty benches ; see the brown and green..ealotirs preva-
lent ; see, not Members sitting, but only places where IMllern-
hers 'night sit if they chose. Hi (111r.Brougharn) who was
Reformer, wished that all this might be changed. He thanked
the Right lion. Secretary-for.his tirade., high in tone as it would
have been in any man ; higher still as.. it appeared when eon-
treated with the Right Ilan. Gentlimiui`s usual suavity. But
the fact was, that the Right lion. Se'cre'tary thought, that for
the first time in his life he had some advantage over his lion.
Friend the Member for Shrewslinry.,-(llear, hear 1 from One
side
,of the House, and no, no, front the 0ther.)....-'err his (Mr.
Brougham's) part, he thought hits ./lon. Friend hail the unveil-
' tare of the Right lion. Secretary, lie knew that was not the
opinion of • the squadron,oppoeite,. but he . believed. it was the
opinion of most of the Members present, and ha was honey it
would be the opinion of the country. But, however tat alight
be, the Right Honourable Gentleman, in pursuing his fancied
advantage, had, like other generals, gone too far, and got into
`.the adversary's tire. \lliac was the fact with regard to the con-.
duct of .}embers of that House ? At a ccrtau hour of .the
evening, at about half-past. six, "however great the eloquence Of
•the Speaker, and however impertantAbe .subjeel (ufdetii
deed, it related personally to any member. of the Royal Atini-
ly), the illeinbers began grailutillyto leave their places; chiefly
on the other side. of the.Clouse—less loud laugh-)
--By degrees till went t before seven.o'clock..the evacuation wei
complete. . It was the usage to pair off,--
Sir F. 011/111A NNEl'—`•` Yes ; the Ilun. and teamed
paired off with me -this evening"...-flioars of ,Lughter'.ffini.l
all parts of the, House,) • . .
.111 r. BROUbiIIA Al, we believe, acknowledged the fact,...:.
Such was the Way in. ichich Honourable Gentlemen demeaned
themselves--(alaugh)--whatever might be the subject,such was
,uniformly the case. -,During the discusaion upon that moat me-
rnentouti question, the ()rilere in Council In. 18114 there were
not sixty .members present. Ile really was utterly at a loas
therefore to conceive why his Honourable Friend; the Member
for Shrewsbury, was not perfectly:competent to argue the point
before the House. -Ilia Honourable .Friend knew the course
Ministerrmeant to pursue ; for he had not been misinfornitil
with respect to yes, yes.," from the Treasurp Bench). He
Mr. Brougham, was glad to hear it. Most of hislionourable •
Friends, however, who bad been present during the whole of
the 'discussion,:. entertained an impression that his" Illiqerty's
Government wished for delay. If that were not the.ease it only
shelved that an Honourable Member might stand qttito as good
a chance of being well informed by absenting hitriselffrani •the
House, as by remaining in his place..--(A.liiiigh.)::.:llowever,
all that he rose for was tuprettst agamet.the toile-which 4he
Right liOnourahle Gentlenum had assumed toward* . his lion.
Friend. .. ,
Mr. Secretary PEEL thought it impossible the lioneurahle
and ',earned oentlentan who seemetl, to have been occupied in
• a pleasanter way than in doing his ndtity iu that 41otric, could
have. beard thallon. Alentber for .Shrewsburyi,...flt (Mr. Peel)
had not objactod,to the Hen. ',lgettther for Shrewsbury's-giving
,his opinion on:tba motion. What he hail said .was, and he still
maintained it, that it was extremely unjust arid•unfair on-the
part of tint Hon. Gentleman to prefer anisectoiation against his
Majesty's Government without having •any ground. whatever
for the charge.. As to the tone of which the, Honourable and
Learned Gentleman complained, it we the natural tone of a
man who felt himself and his friends unjustly
Mr.; BENNET observed, that having read the whole of the
evidence, taken before the Committee, and endeavoured, to make
;himself master of. the subject, he felt himself quite. competent
.to speak to the question. :Having been infermed.Of the speech,
which fool been made by the Right lion. the Secretary of State
•;for Foreign Affairs, he certainly had conceived, and he-still did
,concaive, that there was some comprotnisaat conniviinoenn the
part of his Majesty's Government.
Sir F. 011131ANNEY, said a few words, which were in-
audibleid. .
~ • - '
• The gallery was then cleared, but we were informed that no
division took place... On .our return, we found dust-the. question
had been put for the Speaker's leaving the Chair.
Mr. Gt/ULBURN remonstrated, egitinst entering Into the
details of such a charge at that late hour of the night, and ttgOrn..
mended the lion. Member for Limerick to postposte it fur some
particular.day.
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mittee, tt:10
Mr WitlNN.,staiithe would not object to the re-counnitment
of the Bill. _ _

The toiler Orders of the: thy vivre then disposed of;= onti at
ofl o'clock- the ifonoo olljoornotl to .Montlay (lino (*y.)

Sir GODlfittlf NnSitl4,,art., will tel the
Chas et Meeting in the City of Cluehester, ea Men.
day next (t is day), to devise.. the best means of aitlitik the
Spaniards in their present struggle fur a glorious and inde.
pervient constitution.—plompshire Taw:11110

' to

PARES PAPERS.

IEXTEACT OF A VETTE'''. FROM CALAIS.]
" We have just received the following intel-
ligence from Paris, dated the 13th of June,

A. M.

•• • The French ship Male, coming from St. Domingo with
:a rich cargo, has been captured .10 leagues from Bordeaux, and
earzied without obstacle into Corunna, by the Spanish privateer
tat Invincible Mina.
" • The courier who has brought the mail from Paris, says,
that at the moment of his departure a notice was given to the
couriers on all the roads, stating that the King of Spain had
dissolved the Cortes at Seville, and that the Royalistparty,after
a combat of three.or four hours, had gained the victory, and that
Ahem had been a great carnage."
JUN►: P2.—The following Telegraphic
ritspatch was posted up at 'Change to-day :--
•• TELEGRAPHIC DISPATCH.
1" Arrived from Bayonne at Paris on the 12th of June, in
the morning.]
•• TUS MAJOR-OIMERAt TO 1115 EXCELLENCY TIIE,MI I.

tiTEtt OF wAtt.
" On the 27th the Portuguese troops declared against the
Constitution. The infant Dnn Michael is at the head of this
movement, which has been followed by the whole garrison of
Lisbon, with the exception of a single regiment. The King
has protested his attachment to the Constitution. The Cortes
have declared their Sittingspermanent ; the Sitting of the 30th
was very stormy. His Majesty 'has chosen a new Ministry
.amo the Cortes."
"-Note.--Owing to the bad weather which now intercepts the
telegraphich communications, it could not be known whether
this dispatch is concluded."'
order of the President of the Council of Ministers,
" The COMMISSARY of POLICE of the EXCHANGE."
ite Courier Francois makes thu following re.
musks on the above intelligence:---
" This bulletin contains assertions which it is difficult to re.
concile together. If all the Portuguese troops—if the garrison
of Lisbon, except one .regiment, .:have declared against the
Constitution, how did it happen that they did not immediately'
make themselves masters of the Government ? how could
the King, contrary to the will of the mutinous troops, take a
new oath to the Constitution ? How could the Cortes continue
nssemble, and declare their sittings permanent, in the midst
of a revolted garrison, which might 'have made itself master of
the place of their sittings ? The Constitutional troops must
necessarily have preserved a number of .troops at least equal to
that of those that have revolted, to havelitian able to maintain •
itself, or continue to act; or else the people Must have risen in
its favour, And repressed the movement of the niatinous regi-
ments, of which the telegraphicdispatch does not speak. Besides
the counter-revolutionary movement of the 27th of milt' must
have failed, or, at the least, have been counterbalanced, since
we are told that the Cortes were still sitting on the 30th—the
first effort of the triumph of the counter-revolution would
have been, without any doubt, the final dissolution of the
Cartes.
" The end of the telegraphic dispatch, if there is any end to it,
explained, perhaps, all those apparent contradictions, by an-
nouncing the failure of a movement which the commencement
of the report represented as decisive. Now that the news has
produced its eifect upon 'Change, the bad weather will perhaps
no longer hinder the conclusion of this important dispatch from
being known. All that can be reasonably inferred from the
part published at 'Change is, that Lisbon has been the theatre
of a movement, which, by
.the result to which it was to lead,—
by the machinations, the intrigues, the secret influence that
it produded, and probably also by the issue it has had, resembled
the movement which took place at Madrid, on the 7th of July,
I t 122.

It seems that this opinion prevails on 'Change, or that
news of a different nature has destroyed the effict of this publi-
cation ; for the tendency to a rise in the Rentes, which it first
caused, has been succeeded by a decline no less marked and
cupid."
['he Contlitutionnel remarks on it

This strange news, which the weather has cut short, and.
Which. first would give reason to think that the Portuguese
Cortes were overthrown on the 27th of May, while on the 30th
the Sittings of these same Cortes was very stormy, prOduced a
singular etfixt on 'Change: at first the !tenths rose, then they
tell, and at last closed at the same price as yesterday."
" The !:toile, the Pilate, the Quotid/rune, the Journal de
Paris, and Journal des Debuts, make no remarks on this dis.
patch. The.Constitutionad, Courier Fraucalt, and Pilate pat
at the bottom of it--
`• Signed the Major-Gener3l Count Ouelleminot.
" a Certified correct—,the Director (i. e. of the Telegraph),
Chappe.".
After this, from which it would seem that the dispatch is
;concluded, they had the paragraph of the bad weather, signed
.by the Comrsluoary of Police of the Exchange.
( Prom the Consillutionnel.

[EXTRACTED ritou OUR PRIVATE CoRRESPONUENCE.]
PEITPIONAN, JUNE 4.--When Nina made two troops ap.

pear before Vich on the 26th, the Priests and Monk went
about all the quarters of the town, and all the houses, to induce
the inhabitants who remain in the place, to take arms.—
Soeing that all their efforts were useless, they caused the order
to he signified to them on pain of death, by the Central Junta
of the town. The intention of the inhabitants was the more
unfortunate, as Mina had on the lb of May published the
following