The Sun.
London, England, 1847-04-24 00:00:00

WOOLWICH CONVIC FS.

Mr. DUNCOMBE wished to know whether the Right
lion. Baronet at the head of the Home Department had
received the report from those ewnmissioned to inquire
into the condition of the convicts at Woolwich, for he
thought that when the discussion was taken the copy of
it would be exceedingly valuable to the Members, and he
trusted., therefore, that there would be no objection to
print the minutes of it with the votes.
Sir G. GREY had not yet received the report, but
when it came he did not think that he should have any
objection either to lay it on the table, or to print it for
the use of the House.

AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS OF SCOTLAND.
Mr. FORBES wished to know when the returns of
the Scottish statistics would be hid on the table, as it
was now necessary for the regulation of the rights of the
tenant- farmer.

explanation. He understood that it had always been con-
sidered, in the country as well as in the House,
that the authorised version of the Scriptures should be
made use of in the Government schools, and inculcated there
as a part of the education. But after the motion of the Hon.
Baronet, the Member for Surrey, and after the speeches of the
two Right Hon. Baronets last night, he felt it necessary to
EDUCATION. give any vote associated with such an opinion as he had heard,
his most decided opposition.
Mr. EWART said he had attempted several sessions Mr. MUNTZ said that he had endeavoured, throughout the
Lo induce the Gov ernment to make regular statements discussion, to hear wherefore he should vote for the Government.
annually as to the state and progress of educe- He had suffered too much from the interference of secular and
tion. He understood that he had the assent of religious questions with liberty, not to have
Butthoughtser hieouesbly.
the Noble Lord to the propriety of such a statement ; on every such question coming before the House._
he proposal
and he now begged to know whether it was the intention jetted to the proposition of the Government.erHe did not object
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of the Government to order such a statement to be made was not to educate the people, but the pe
annually.the whole in order
to the amount to be levied for that object ; but he objected to
the principle. That principle was to tax .
That
Sir GEORGE GREY said the measure which had to :
give It to a section of the nation.
been before the House several nights, made such a was the principle which he always objected to in all measures, ,
statement so much more desirable. and he therefore felt the more inclined to support the motion
Sir. W. MOLESWORTH begged to ask the Noble of the Hon. Member for Surrey. The benefit of a good edu-
Lord whether it was his intention to bring up the report ca. ion on all classes, and especially the labouring classes,
_ was
on Education the, first thing ou Monday night, for, clearly evident to him, after the long experience he had had
Lord J. RUSSELL—Yes. of the employment of workmen. But it had been said that a
Sir W. MOLESWORTH continued—Then he would e cular education as necessarily a godless one. That did
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not follow, for the children were left to their parents, who
adjourn his motion till that night.
were at liberty to give them what spiritual instruction the
Mr. EWART thought proper. He had long thought that a secular educe.): '
gave a similar notice, in reference to
certain amendments which he had on the paper.
tion, founded on a general national system ought to be that
adow ed. He thought so still, and lie would therefore vote
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.
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COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY—EDUCATION.
progress out .
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Sir W. Clay, Mr. Roebuck, and Mr. Bright presented
several petitions, from various places, against the Go-
vernment scheme of education.
Sir G. STAUNTON presented a petition from Ports- '
mouth, very numerously and respectably signed, pro- from those
_ i All the communications
to him from th pinitms and principles existed out of doors
which had been expressed in the House.
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which had been addressed
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opposition e northern division of Northamptonshire
to the scheme, founded their opposition it_ .
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which
they education, the objections urged in Crosby Hall, and net on those which
deemed unsound in principle and unconsti- he had heard advocated in that House, either by the
against the Government scheme of
y introduced. He felt bound to say that he I Member for
totally disagreed from the opinions put forth iu the pe- Nottin Hen.
tutionall gham, or the Hon. Member for Durham.
If the Nonconformists who bound themselves up with no

Mr. M. GIBSON said that the machinery for England
and Wales was not necessary for the measure for Scot.
land, and the measure would be brought in at the earlies
possible period.