The Sun.
London, England, 1812-02-22 00:00:00

NAVY ESTIMATES.

Mr. Tottge moved the [-louse to go into a born-
br Supply, kr the purpoie of 'Oa
Estimates for tile. Service of the -Navy for tt.e en-
suing year..

Tile Estimates were referred to the consideration
of Ole Committee.

The House' having resolved itself into the Cum-
rniit te,

Mr. YonKE rose, and observed, that having last
Session explained the ground of the Estimates which
he then brought forward, and those of the present
year being in erred similar, he shouki not think it
necessary to detain the Committee at any length.
He would merely state one or two circumstances
tor their consideration, anti should any Gentleman
iequire explanation, would most cheerfully answer
him. The Estimates had been printed, and were
in the handi of all. The most material circum-
stance which he had to state was this.-=-That the vote
which he should now call upon the Comtnitte to
agree to, would be less in amount by 500,0001. than
the vote for the'same service passed the preceding.
year. • If anrirtiele had been comprised in it, which
was nut ready, he meant the sum of 80,0001. for the
Breakwater, the estimate would be nearly 600,0001.
less. The debt of the Navy up to the tab of Jam!.
ary last was htdween 800 and 900,0001. The debt
in' t aoo 'as 8,829,6291.—the credit in the Exche-
‘quer. . was 2.907,0001. leaving a balance of debt,
of about 6,02'40001. In. 1810, the debt was
B;24B,oools—the credit in the Exchequer was.
2,:)00,0001. 'leaving a debt of 5,748,0001. Last
year the. debt Was 8,439,9001.—;.the credit in the
Exthtloer was 3,519,1471, leaving' a thin of
4,890;0001;. the Committee, by comparing the
present debt with that of the year to which he laid
hist referred, would see that it would fall short of
the forincr year. The dectease in the Estimate was
owing to the liberal provision which the [louse had
ouste in the last year; The Wear awl Tot vto dd
be on the slaw; tenting, and the Extraordinaries and
' Qidi'liaties were on the footing of the precediog
yeisrs.. The conseqn.tnce of this %vast,ithat the. Board
hail, oot,porehased stores, &c. as usual. The total
amount of the saving wonki be 544,0001.; of which
ston 9.1,0601. was be placed, to Ole accotint of the
'Ordinaties reduOion, 339,4701, in the Extraordi-
naries, 9(3,0001, for the Tr.insport SerViee, making
the total som befote stiited. There was 011610(4C
.Wll4l, was not noticed in the edimate, but
w ousted, ,th Committee .would think
proper to b. 2 in lotted in the .expences 'of the
.1\1:1$y in Intwo,--he meant the Cuapirtins cai
the N There was
, a food applicable to that
so w hid) was net •.sotlieient; Thr,
would agree with hint, that it was ex rdietit to
ad r&1 reli .ion, iostruilion improvemem t the
b . • • , .
young. men of Tho emoluments of the
eletplains were so-1•-w as not give a chatict, to tier-
sous oodertaking the &flee who mterjemißeotiy qua•
the nay ot::
.ttl,a ITIV."1!
.per month was
the support of description of
Whicti watt added, a stilanthiOtineta.),on
tits esiablishrneot ; tan t the custom had heel),
the prc.,:e.hitg war had tertnioitied, in give
them a :111411 pension; but in a war hite, that present

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arq history,it did, not mote the sOter
expeaatio-is of those eho were friends to, its suc-
Cesstal termieation tlemn the fears of a prowdent
eneiny. With resped to the cause of Spain, of that
Cause he (Mr. C.) :hd hy no 1110.31)3 deSpair. On the
Contrary, be thought those were some 'recent eir-
. Cumstances, and more particularly the 'reeoVation
• • and re-invigoration of the Spanish •Governmeot—
which held out a brighter hope than any. which
Could hitherto have been chirished, which 'Called
upon the British Government not to comorade but
to extend their operations, and Which not merely
' • JUstified them for the exertions which they had hi-
, therto ma(4.o, but tefieded on their eahrts the high-
est comthendation. fir repeated his wish, that the
• , sum to be grante3 to the Noble, and gellapt Earl 'Ayes
-'' larger.• Ie was far faotn being adequate to the ex-
ient of his strices; mere especielly when it was
'Was considered how much he had had in his power,
'aid how, much he had rejeaed ; but, being anxious
- to avoid any: thing. like dissent on such a question,
he would not pr:;s4 the adoption of a larger sum.—
lie was sure, however, that the 'Committee ,would
Cheerfully and ,uhanimonsly, join. with his Roval,
• Eighhess the Prince Regent in the noblest exercise
of the regal prerogatives, by evincing the gratitude
Of the country ail distitruished•indmvidual who had
rendered ltinisella Moder to the present age, and an
.erimple to posterity.
Sir FRANCIS BURDE,TT 'and Mr. CANNING seve-
rally explain Li.... • e
Air Hot-imitable Member made a few observa-
tions- in aentobatio t of the me, and of the Noble
distinguished and services.
r. BEKEsFoRD, observed, that the. skill, ded abi-
lities °Utile Noble Earl Were too we!! known to aha,
country to need 'his paneygyric; but he could not
.avoid stating, from tie information of a near rely.
tiverif his own, who had witnessed the distinguish-
-Icd condutt of the Nnble Earl, that he waS.eini:;ently
9134lified to carry into effect arty service to which he
Might be appointech
Lord TEYInz Was not disposed w concur in any
Of the 'sentiments ,hick tee Hon. Baronet behind
• him had proirielhated.' Whatever difference opoth
Party principle, there might be between Qt.:Wen-eau
on either Side .of the House, with the exception' of
the Hop. Baronet. ail must- be aehreed as to. the emi-
nent services Of the Earl of Wellington.-The pre-
sent question, in his opinion, had 'nothing to do with ,
the policy of the war in the Peninsula.- Whatever
Inig:tt be the distresses of the people of this coun-
' ("1. in consequeehe Of the stagnation of trade, sure
11z was .th mt they would be more deeressed if
the House were to refhse reward to the Noble Earl.
• It the Hon. Baronet wauted furthehtestimpuy of the
merits of the Noble Earl, be would refer him,to the
°Pinions of the common enemy, who evinced their
surprise and wonder that the strong fortifications and
out-works of Ciudad Rodrigo should have, been
taken in so short a time. Su much astonished were
hq, that. one of their.greeiest. Generals ,had said,
it was totally McomprellehSible." That was a
lolfficient answer to the Honourahle, Baronet. Par--
114 Tent should aet to the Noble Earl under the im-
Presst,n of its o riteelings ; ancatiose feelings- would
"Alice a degree of zeal iu the,Noble cart, which in,
fulate kin additional claims on their
Zratitude. With rezpethto the sume he confessed,
'1441 if a larger suer had been proeosed, he should
e4'tt been inclined to' vote fOr that sum.
Sir CHARLts BuafteLL would
,not have arisen,-
uLlt far the observations of the Hon. Baronet ; at
the same time he was aware that these observations
bad been most ably and successfully -Mwered by
the .R!eht Hon. Geatleman. The Hon. Bart. had
staled the comparative merit of Suchet and of the
Earl of Weilinqeon ; that Conicririion was not-to be. -
endured. Whet had been the conduCt-of Suchet ?
at Tar- .gun there were between 7 and 800 men,
Women, and diillren, wantonly put to• the sword
by his orders—What had heen tee condiatt of die,
Earl of Wellington is ,the late gforions service > Not
a inC;, life was lost in the city, with the exception
of those on the rathparts. He had not dragged
fon h the delenteless to be inhumanly butchered-and
nluidered, ' He had spared their lives atter the cob-
'i]hest, and one thousand seven hundred prkneers
were marched out of the place. Tile comparison
of the Merits of the two Commanders was so strik-
ingly weeny, thni he could not avoid the expression
of his feemiee common[ with. other Gentietifb so
. 4liametrically opposite to those of the Hon. Bart. and
to give his testimony in favour of the .I.`•:#e Eat!.
e thoughtahat he should ill deserve the, support of
'fis constituents in Sussex, if he went down among
them without having marked the sense which he en-
tertained of principles such as had just -been avowed
by time Hon. Baronet.
The motion was then pat and agreed to, With
the exception of the single no of the Honourable
Barenet.
The House resumed, and the report was ordered
to be received on Monday,
, MAjOR-GENERAL ROBERT CRAUFURD.
The CH ANCELLOIt of the EXCISEQ.III3It moved

• " A.n humble Address to the Prince Regent, hum-
' biy praying 'that he would be graciously pleased to
give directions for the ereaion of a monument, in.
the Cathedral.Citurch of Saint Paul, to the memory
Of Major-General Robert Craufurd,, who died 'of
th'e wounds which he received on the 19th January,
when leading on the light division of the army to
the attack tit Ciudad Rodrigo, which fortress was
so gloriously wrested from the enemy."
..The Right
Gcntlctnin observed, that after the &seas-
. sion which hai just taken place, when the House
was animated with those feelings which the emi-
nent services of the Nord; Earl had aroused, if
NVoilld be a pleasing, though 'melancholy task to do
Juli'iCe to the cliaraeter of Major-General .Robert
Cratiford, who, 'at the bead of the storming-party,
Winch he most gallantly led to the attack of Ciudad
Itnclrigo, received a severe wound, Which .ulti-
Wately deprived, hiM of life, and left the country
to lament the loss of a most able,. skilful, and gal-
. Jant ottictr. The only it emus of recogniziog the
Merit of his services would be,. by the creation of
a monument to his memory, and therefore he
moved, Sc.c.
Lord CASTLEIiEAGH regretted his absence during
the discussiou on the late vote, which precluded him
from adding.lns tribute of apillaose.to_the cliaraater.
of the Earl of Wellingtonan applause which,
with the exception of the Hon. Baronet, and, p(-r-
-baps, of a very few persons o,it of doors, would uc
.tooncl general. The chararler of the lamented .4a..
ic)r-General Robert Craufurd rested on his owa
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.fits, acrd was but to be appreciated by the test.-

iiionres of the 'gallant army in which' he bore tOrl-
.
wand ; that army, on his return from abroad; Ind
recorded his merits by an involuntary burst of ap-
plause, when he first appeared on parade. Th,:,
Noble Lord could not avoid partaking, of the fed-
ings which his brother officers evinced.-s.vben:rec,4:.
:letting his merits ; his chary Cter had been observed
by, another officer neatly allied to the Noble Lord.
After he had received,his death wopnd, to the mo-
me:,(of his death, be was at the foot of that breach
which bad been etietted by his determined
_gal-
lantry; the testimony and- admiration of his con-
dud w hich the- illustrious army had shewn,- would
serve as a remembrance of his departed won It.
The upitiofi was then agreed to, nem. con.
Mr. M. A. TtilLOR postponed his motion re-
specting suitors inChancery till Wednesday next.