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THE SUN,

EVENI N CT, JULY 2, 1647,

any period of the past year ; and let-us not forget what
is tha most remarkable part of the present subject—that
there is an ezraordintry consumption. But there have
been very hrge imports from the seats of foreign
trade, and :here have been a very great num-
ber of railway wollis ; and I believe that they
have in mats respects diminished or alleviated the

calamities tinier Which we are suffering by causing a
considerable remand for labour. But, at the same time,
when I look b the amount of calls upon railways from
January to tlls time, and I fled that there has been em-

ployed twent. one millions, of which somewhat more
than eighteenmillions are required for the United King-
dom, it is innbasible not to see that the expenditure of a
very large pottion of this sum must have led to a con•
siderable consumption which would not have taken
place if tyre had not been so extraordinary
an expenditire. That consumption again leads to
an increased price, and of courAe leaves less of the
whole smoent of food to be divided amongst the
people of tlis country. But the construction of railways
has in one k.nse tended to the augmentation of the
culty, for tielieve thht they have mainly caused the
consumptios which is so much grater than has ever
before taket place with so high a price of provisions—
for this oxtkordinary consumptim must tend to make

the quantity of food in the country last fora shorter
period than it would otherwise do. Taking all these
circumstoncs into consideration, the general result is
that the polir• of
Parliament
ought to be to throw open
the ports 14 widely as possible for the adrnistiion of
food, and o take away every restriction which
would" pri,ant one single quarter of corn from

coming into his country, if you mean to keep up at all
the good coalition of the labouring people, and, lastly,
if you look t 4 the state of the revenue in connexion with
all these circimstances, you will find that you ought to
pursue the blicy of free and indiscriminate admission
for corn. Hying come to this general conclusion, I
again refer tcthe plan of the Noble Lord, and again re
peat that we vill not on• this question discuss the pro-
priety of the etistence of the navigation laws. That sub-
ject will mot probably be brought under the con-
sideration of ?arliameut, when the evidence which has

been taken b] the Committee has been considered, and
for my part promise to pay serious attention to that
evidence wherever it shall be produced. I think that
there is no cuestion which has so many various sub-
jects—as relies to our commercial marine—as relates
to the state 'f our naval power, and as relates likevsise
to the genera principle of freedom of intercourse—there
is in fact nc question which can be put on so many
various base as the navigation•laws. I am most
unwilling to discuss such a subject towards the close
of the session with the Committee sitting—(Hear)—
and taking evidence upon it, and Ishould not be justititd
in prorosing any determination to be taken upon such a
subject. I stall be ready to consider any determination
to be taken with reference to the general principle of
commercial policy—with reference to the efftct of these

laws upon it--with reference to the altered state of the
world—and with reference, lastly and chiefly, to the
naval free and naval supremacy of this country.
Mr. RICA'iDO said that he did not think the general
question of the navigation-laws at all involved in this dis-
cussion. He was surprised that the Noble Lord the Member
for Lynn had wade a charge against the Government that
they were seeldng to mad, rmine the shipping interest of
the country, and he could not help thinking that in
opposing this measure the Noble Lord had some
electioneering naanceavre in view. The measure in his
opinion would do no injury whatever to the shipping
interest, but if they adopted the suggestion of
the Noble Lord to bring line of battle ships into
competition with the merchant-traders, it would be in-
flicting an irreparable injury upon the free commerce of
the country.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped the time was
coming when the good old days woult be revived, and
when they should see English and American ships
crossing the Atlantic with ballast and re,iring laden with
goods or corn. The period was fast aparoaching when,
in his opinion, these laws must be altogether abolished;
And he thought, when the House was rut in possession
of the evidence taken before the Navigation Committee,
it would be inclined to agree with him.—(Hear.)
Mr. LIDDELL said the present was lot a fitting op-
portunity to enter upon a discussion of toe merits of the
Navigation-laws, and he should, therefore, confine his
observations to the Bill before the House.
It did not follow that because his Noble Friend,
the Mi mber for Lynn had tormented to a
further suspension of the corn-laws, he ought to agree
to this measure. The navigation laws hid already been
suspended for a sufficient length of tim., and he could
not see what advantage was to be derved from con-
tinuing the suspension during a perod when the
trade of many countries was shut tp by national
causes. The Honourble Gentleman wilt last addressed
the House, ridiculed the idea of brnging line-of-
battle ships into competition with merchtnt traders, but
he (Mr. Liddle) thought the Hon. Genteman had mis
understood the remarks of the Noble lAA the Member
for Lynn. The Noble Lord did not male the sugges-
tion attributed to him by the Hon. Genthman. What he
said was, that at a time when severil ships laden
with corn, and bound to this country, were unable to
obtain egress into the Atlantic by stress of weather,
there were several ships of war cruising off Portugal and
doing nothing, which might have been batter employed
in assisting these ships out of their difficilties:— (Hear )
He would not detain the House any farther, and he
would sit down imploring the Nobly Lord at the
head of the Government to give his most serious and at-
tentive consideration of the subject of the Navigation
Laws, and not too hastily come to a conclusion upon it.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he wished to tell the
Hon. Gentleman that he had understood him (Lord John
Russell) quite correctly, and he questioned if the Nisei-
ration ought to be left for rucuro cleimeration.
zur. S. HERBER 1' said, so far as this Bill was con-
cerned he had no sort of objection to its passing. He
was most anxious that there should continue to be an
ample of food both in this country and in Ireland, and
particularly during the fruit season, .and without giving
any opinion upon the large and important question of
the navigation-laws, he was not disposed to resist the
progress of this temporary measure. He did most sin-
cere!), regret that the Government bad abandoned a Bill
which, if calculated to be useful at al', would be pre-
eminently useful in the present year.
Mr. MITCHELL would confine himself to the ques-
tion of the expediency of these laws, and the question
was, could ships be chartered at a lower rate of freight
than at present ? lie affirmed that they could not, and
therefore that did away with the necessity of the Bill.
Taking all the freights together, the freights were 30
per cent. higher than they had been last year. It should
be recollected tiat the greater part of the British ship-
ping ss as employed in the conveyance of corn, which
they took in preerence to other freights. He did not
see, therefore, that any necessity now existed either for
sending ships of war to bring corn to this country, or
fur the suspension of these laws.
Mr. AARON CHAPMAN fully agreed with the
Hon. Member who had just sat down, that it would
have been improdent to have used ships of war in the
carrying of corn, and he as fully disagreed with the ar-
guments of the Jon. Member opposite (Mr. Trelawny),
who appears to fund all his arguments on his knowledge
of the Royal Yacht Club.—(Laughter.) In his opinion
the safety of th s country depended upon our navy, and
the efficiency of ,hat navy depended upon the encourage-
ment of the shipping now employed in commerce. He
thought that the Bill was not required, and should not
be proceeded with-
Mr. TRELAWNY explained.
Lord JOHN MANNERS said that after the declara-
tion of the Noble Lord that he would give this measure
his unbiassed consideration next year, he (Lord J. Man-
ners) was not disposed to oppose the further suspension
of the navigation-laws.
Mr. HUDSON said that he did not think it would be
wise at present to obstruct the Government, for he was
prepared to grant that some interests in the country
might be benefited by the suspension of the navigation-
laws fora time.
Mr' FeRSTER hoped that the Protectionists would
not at th forthcoming election raise a cry in favour of
the shipowners similar to that which in 1841 they raised
for the aiculturists, because the former interests would
be very
apt to imagine that their fate would be the
same,—(gear,
hear.)
Lord G. BENTINCIi said, after what had been said
he should not put the House to the trouble of a division,
and should withdraw his amendment.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
he committed on Monday.
CUSTODY OF OFFENDERS BILL.
The House then went into Committee on this Bill, and
the clauses, after some verbal amendments,
PRISONS BILL.
Lord MAHON wished to know whether, after what
occurred, the
Bill during the
present session. He thought, con-
sidering the period of the session, and the absence
Noble Lord intended to proceed with this
it; and he
interest in the matter, it would be
advisable, and more conducive to the public interests, if
many Honourable Members who took
it were withdrawn. There certainly was no baste for
not press it on a thin House, but adopt his suggestion.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL would take the Noble Lord's
suggestion into consideration, and his Right Hon.
STOCK- trusted, therefore, that the Noble Lord would
Friend (Sir George Grey) would, on Monday, state
the coarse which the Government intended to adopt with
respect to the measure.
On the second readin of this Bill being moved,
Sir R. H. INGLIS deprecated the changing of the law
without discussing its Principles and its influence on those
IN-TRADE EXEMPTION BILL.
who would be affected by it. He considered that the Bill
prepared to bring in a
proposed too sweeping change in the law, and that any
change should be gradual„...(llean) Unless they were
gave a pledge
injustice to a large portion of the country. If they were
prepared to rate stock in trade, the owner of tithes had
no right to complain ; but if they did not do so they
Baronet
would inflict a grievous • • •them. He did not
general Bill they would do great
--3 injustice upon
intend to divide the House but, unless the Right Hon.
as the one he had recommended next session, he should
be compelled to do so. that.hewould bring such a Bill
Sir G. t;REI admitted that the subject was fraught
with difficulties. The Bill had been brought in in ac-
cordance with a decision of the Court of Queen's Bench.
fie was ready to admit that the subject required future
legislation, and, no doubt, mature consideration might
lead him to bring forward a more general and unobjec-
tionable measure than the one before the House.—
(Hear.) He did not think any greater bur den would
be placed upon the tithe owner than on the owners of
any other description of Pro pert —(Hear.)
Sir JOHN TROLLOPE
mould rather that this Act
should be made a permanent one than that the question
should be mooted annuallY. He did not think that the
statements of the Right lion. Baronet were so explicit
as the House had a right to expect.
Mr. HENLEY thought it would be impossible to make
the Act permanent. He admitted that the subject was
one that ought to be looked at with a very jealous eye. 1

If the law was not either put an end to or suspended, it
would lead to eternal litigation.
After some observations from Mr. NEWDEG ATE,

Mr. 11111):-ON expres-ed a hope that the Guverrim,:ta
would turn their attention to the rating of railways, as
at present he thought the mode of rating those under-
takings was most unjust. In some instances raik ays
paid two-thirds of the rate of the county through which
they passed. He trusted that Government would
either bring in a Bill on the subject, or grant a Select
Committee to take the matter into consideration.

After a few words from Colonel ROLLESTON,
Sir ROBERT INGLIS said that he would not press
the House to adivision, but he hoped the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman the Home Secretary would take the subject into
.onsideration during its recess, and bring forward a mea-
sure next session for the purpose of removing the evils
which at present existed on the subject of rating.
After a few words from Mr. B. ESTCOTT and Sir C.
BURRELL,

Lord U. BENTINCK thought the subject too irn-
rortant to be discussed in such a thin House, when there
was no Cabinet Minister present except the Right Hon.
Baronet the Secretary for the Home Department. This
was one of the evils which resulted from their working
double time. He should, therefore, move that the House
be counted.

Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but there was a
sufficient number of Members present to form a [louse.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed on Monday next.
The House then adjourned till Five o'clock.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.
SUTTON HARBOUR IMPROVEMENT BILL.
Sir J. Y. BULLER moved that the report from the
Committee on the Sutton Harbour Improvement Bill be
considered forthwith, prints of the amended having
been deposited on Wednesday, the 30th day of June last.
Mr. GREENE suggested that the better course would
be to recommit the Bill. _

Sir JOHI' Y. BULLER—WouId consent to the re-
committal of the Bill, provided that the Committee were
allowed to sit on Monday next.
This course was agreed to.
COMMIS -lON IN THE LORDS.

Sir Augustus Clifford, Usher of the Black Rod,
appeared at the bar and. summoned the House to the
bar of the House of Lords, to hear the Royal assent
given by commission to several Bills.
The Speaker, accompanied by several Members, left
for the House of Lords.

On the return of the SPEAKER, he anrounced that
several Bills (tor which see Lords' report) had receiv,d
the Royal assent.
The Lords amendments to the following Bills were
considered and agreed to :
Ashton Gas

Caledonian Railway (Branches to Canonbie, &c.)
Chard Canal and Railway (Extension and Amalgamaton)
Dublin and Drogheda Railway (Purchase of Navan
Branch, &c.)
East Lothian Central Railway

Eastern Union and the Ipswich and Bury Saint Ed-
mund's Railways Amalgamation
Edinburgh Waterworks
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock. and Ayr Railway (No. 1).
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 2).
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 4).
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway, and
Glasgow and Belfast Union Railway (No. 1).
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway
(No. 2).
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway
(No. 4).
London and North-Western Railway (Portobello and
Wolverhampton Branch, &c.)
Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway, and
Manchester and Lincoln Union Railway, and Ches-
terfield and Gainsborough Canal Amalgamation.
Midland Great Western Railway of Ireland (Extension
from Athlone to Galway).
Newport, Abergavenny, and Hereford Railway (Exten-
sion to Taff Vale Railway).
Northampton and Banbury Railway.
Parkgate and Chester and Birkenhead Junction Railway.
South Staffordshire Railway (Cannock, Wyrley, and
Norton Branches, &c.)
Swansea and Amman Junction Railway.
York Improvement (Lendal Brid and Approaches).
(LEFT SITTING.)

BANK OF EN BLAND.
(From this night's Gazette.)
n Account, pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth of Victoria, cap. 32, for
the Week ending on Saturday, the 28th day of June, 1847.
MUM DEPARTMENT.

otos issued•....... 23,676,545

Government debt • . 11,015,100
Other securities Z 984,900
Gold coin and bullion 8,227,545
Silver bullioa •• • • • 1,449,000

£23,676,545

1 .t 23,676,545
➢f. MARSHALL. Chief Cashier.

Dated the 1 st day of July. 1547

RANKING D
roprietors' capital. • 14,553,000
Rest .... •• •
Public deposits (in-
eluding Exchequer,
Commissioners of
National Debt, Sav-

OEP.UITMEN T.

Government seenri-

ties (Including Dead
Weight Annuity)• • 11,707,217
Other securities .. .. 18,315,772
Notes • • ..
Gold and silver coin • • 849,860

ings-banks, and Di-
vidend accounts) • . 9,796,647
Other deposit. . 7,D20,706
Seven day and other
bills ••••• • • • • •• • • 764,036

Z 36,493,379

£36,498,379
E. MARSHALL, Chief Cashier.

Dated the Ist day of July. 1847.

THE LONDON GAZEITI-,

(THIS EVENING.)

FOREIGN OFFICE, JULY 1.

The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. Noble
Towner, as Consul at Barbadoes for the United States of
America.

The Queen has also been pleased to approve of Mr. Na-
thaniel Solomon, as Vice Consul at St. Helena fur the Free
Henseatic cities of Hamburgh and Lubeck.
WAR OFFICE, JULY 2.

10th Light Dragoons—Regimental Sergeant-Major Joseph
Trennery, from 7th Light Dragoons, to be Cornet, wiihout
purehase, vice M'Mahon promoted, July 2.
11th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant Charles Morant, from
14th Light Dragoons, td be Lieutenant, vice Bridgman, ap-
to West India Regiment, July 2.
14th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant John Theodore Ling,
from the Ist West India Regiment, to be Lieutenant, vice
Morant, appointed to 11th-Light Dragoons, July 2.
15th Light Dragoons—Ensign and Lieutenant Duncan
Davidson, from half-pay Colatream Foot Guards, to be
Cornet, vice Hartman, promoted; William Bennett, Gent., to
be Cornet, by purchase, vice Davidson, July 2.
16th Light Dragoons—Captain Augustus Charles Skynner,
from halt-pay 15th Light Dragoons, to be Captain,_ vice
Brevet Major Edward Baker Bere, who exchanges; Lieut.
Robert Abercromby Yule to be Captain, by ,purchase, vice
Skynner, who retires; Cornet Thomas Robert Charles Dims-
dale to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Yule ; Francis Wil-
iam
Grant, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Dinasdale,
July 2.
Coldstream Regiment of Foot Guards—Ensign and Lieute-
nant and Adjutant James Halkett to have the rank of Lieu-
tenant and Captain, July 1 ; Ensign and Lieutenant Sir John
Edward Harington, Bart. to be Lieutenant and Captain, by
purchase, vice the Honou.rable Charles Grimston, who retires;
Charles Baring, Gent. to be Ensign and Lieutenant, by pur-
chase, vice Sir J. E. Harrington, July 2.
Ist Regiment of Foot—Ensign William James Gillum, to
be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Reader, promoted in 3d
West India Regiment; John Alexander Chrystie, Gent., to
be Ensign, by purchase, vice Gillum ; July 2.
90th Foot—Robert Dymock Vaughton, Gent., to be En-
sign, by purchase, vice Nazer, who retires, July 2.
_ .

Rifle Brigade—Captain Richard Henry Fitz Herbert to
be Major, without purchase, vice Robert Walpole, who re-
tires upon half-pay; Captain John Read Vincent, from half-
pay 4th Foot, to be Captain, vice Fitz Herbert; Lieutenant
William Harry Earl of Errol to be Captain, by purchase, vice
Vincent, who retires; Second Lieut. the Hon. William Draper
Mortimer Best to be First Lieutenant, by purchase, vice the
Earl of Errol; Henry Tryon, Gent., to be Second Lieute-
nant, by purchase, vice Best, July 2.
Ist West India Regiment—Lieutenant Orlando Jack
Charles Bridgeman, from 11th Light Dragoons, to be Lieu-
tenant, vice Ling, appointed to the 14th Light Dragoons,
July 2.
3d West India Regiment—Major Thomas Abbott, from
half-pay Unattached, to be Major, vice Maclean, promoted,
July 3; Captain William Willington Powell, from half-pay,
86th Foot, to be Captain, vice Virginius Murray, who ex-
c b tistvutt.lY,; ierr Rweet,
sTAF . —Major Robert Walpole, of the Rifle Brigade, to
be Deputy Quartermaster-General in the lonian Islands,
with the rank of Lieut.-Colonel in the Army, vice Colonel
Francis Henry Dawkins, deceased, July 2.
HOSPITAL STAFF.—LocaI Deputy -Inspector General of
Hospitals Sir James Pitcairn, M.D., to be Inspector General
of Hospitals, July 2.
Deputy Inspector General of Hospitals, Sir James Pitcairn,
M.D. to be Inspector General of Hospitals, with local rank,
July 2.