The Sun.
London, England, 1840-03-31 00:00:00

METROPOLITAN POLICE COURTS.

In answer to a question from Lord WYNFORD,
The Marqu's of NORMANBY said be had no objec-
tion, on principle, to confining the number of Magistrates
to twenty-seven, but he did not think a clause to that effect
necessary. With respects to public informers, be had to
introduce a clause into the Bill which would make it penal
on the part of such persons to compromise their informa-
tions with tradesmen on the payment of a sum of money.
The Bill was then reported to the House with amend-
ments. and ordered t• be printed.
CLERGY RESERVES BILL (CANADA).
The Bishop of EXETER said that as the discussions
which had already come before the House that evening had
occupied a good deal of their Lordships' time, he would
defer his motion on the subject of the Clergy Reserves Bill
(Canada) till to-morrow. He would also move on Friday,
that certain questions should be put to the Judges of
Upper Canada, with respect to the Act providing for the
Sale of Clergy Reserves, and the distribution thereof.

Their Lordships then adjourned, at a Quarter past
Seven, till to-morrow.

110 USE OF COMMONS. Motel' 30.
QUEEN'S MESSAGE.
On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, the House
went into Committee on her Majesty's Message with respect
to Lord Seaton.
The Royal Message having been read,
Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said—Although, Sir, I
have no doubt that this House will gladly accord with her
Majesty's gracious desire to make some provision for
Lord Seaton, yet I feel it due to that distinguished indi-
vidual to offer a short statement of facts ; Ho entered
the army in 1794, and joined the 20th Regiment as Lieu-
tenant in 1796. In 179 S and 1799 he was engaged in
the expeditions of Sir Ralph Abercrombie and the Duke
of York, and was in several general actions. He was
then employed in Egypt—was present at Alexandria--
and eas then stationed at Malta. Subsequently he became
Military Secretary to Sir John Moore, and was present
at Corunna. He was engaged afterwards in the Peninsu-
lar campaigns, under Sir A. Wellesley, and was present
at Busaco and Ciudad Rodrigo. and there received a
wound which disabled him for some time, he having in the
meantime attained the rank of Captain, and subsequently
rose to the command of that distinguished regiment, the
52d. His zeal for military service again led him to the
Continent, after a short lapse of time, and he was present
at the battle of Waterloo. Thus, Sir, from the corn-
n encement to the close of ,the war—from 1794 to 1615
has this distinguished officer gallantly served his country
in every part of the world. In 182 e, he was Governor
and Commander-in-Chief of Upper Canada. In 1835
he was appointed Commander of the Forces there, and
soon after Commander-in-Chief of all the forces in the
Provinces. During the troubles which took place in the
Colony, the full weight of the responsibility of preserving
it to the Crown rested upon him, when traitors were in
arms against their Sovereign--( Hear, hear)—and he con-
ducted the service with the prowess he had often dis-
played against a foreign foe, and at the same time with
the greatest humanity.—(Cheers.) His responsibility was
increased by Lord Gosford having left the Colony, consi-
dering that conciliation was hopeless, end also by another
Noble Lord having thought that his presence there would
no longer conduce to the service of the Crown. Thus,
for upwards of forty years has Lord Seaton borne all
the labours and privations of military service, and long
absence from his country.—( Cheers.) To add to this
plain statement of facts would be unnecessary ; and I
think that they will be amply sufficient to induce the
House cheerfully to agree to the resolution I now beg to
move—" That her Majesty be enabled to grant an annuity
of 0,000/. a year to Lcrd Seaton, and the two next male
heirs."—( Cheers. )
Sir ROBERT PELL rose to second tho proposal of
the Noble Lord. He entirely agreed with the Noble
Lord, that the simple mention of the forty-five )cars in
which Lord Seaton had been engaged in the service of
his country was a much greater tribute to his character
than the most eloquent language could convey. At the
same time he thought it was a proud distinction, not merely
to Lord Seaton, but to the character of the British army,
that they should be able to exhibit to the world a man who
had been connected with the British Army for so long a
time, and that they should have learnt from him no lessons
but those to be derived from the most moderate, humane,
and discreet administration. The Noble Lord had omitted
one part of the civil service of Sir John Colborne, which he
(Sir R. Peel) had an opportunity of observing. He had
been in correspondence, as Secretary of State, with Sir
John Colborne, when Lieutenant-Governor of Guernsey,
at a time when there were many animosities existing which
led him ( Sir Robert Peel) to form an opinion from his
conduct in that limited sphere, that if he were called upon
to act in a more extended sphere, he would support his
character for prudence and humanity. Isle would abstain
from mere panegyric, in order to exalt the character of
Lord Seaton ; but he thought that no man could receive
a higher reward than that which the Lords and Commons
had evinced towards him—viz., the expression of national
gratitude._ ( Cheers.)
Mr. HUME was sorry to differ with the Noble Lord
and the Right Hen. Gentleman. If 45 years' service was
a reason for granting a pension, many men in the army
were far more entitled to one than Lord Seaton. If Lord
Seaton had been the most distinguished officer In the Bri-
tish army, he would have no such distinguished honour as
that which had been conferred upon him had he not
served in Canada ; and unless Lord Seaton had got
a fortune to support
the Peerage, he thought
was highly improper. It was creating a
that in a constitutional point of view the conferring upon
d
hian,istohfa tic,leigernsi,ty
that
woul become paupers on the State.
cl.i'h'e country had eneugh of them already, as the Pen-
sion-list showed. He hoped Lord Seaton had ample for-
tune to maintain his rank ; and if so, the question was—
whether the Peerage was not quite sufficient recornpence
to him for his services, and more than he had any right to
expect? Had the Noble Lord and the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman foigot the circumstance of Sir John Colborne's
being removed from Upper Canada, as unfit to continue
Governor ? Let the Noble Lord produce the correspond-
ence that had passed between Sir John Colborne and the
authorities there, which compelled the Government to
withdraw him from the Government of Upper Canada, on
the ground of complete inability? Was that to be passed
over? But instead of coming home, as any other person
would have done after that removal, Sir John Colborne
went to Lower Canada, where he was appointed Com-
mander of the Forces. The pension, ho supposed, was
not for his conduct on that occasion: and the question
was, what had been his conduct during the time he
was Commander-in-Chief? The Noble Lord had stated
that Sir John Colborne succeeded Lord Gosford
His (Mr. Hume's) opinion was, that had Lord Gosford