The Sun.
London, England, 1812-06-18 00:00:00

SCOTS LOCAL MILITIA BILL.

On the' question. for the third reading of this
Bill, • -

The Marquis .of DOUGLAS rose, and at some
length adduced a variety of detailed objections to
measure. His Lordship'seemed'to lay his princi-
pal stress upon the contronling power vested in
theßarons of the Exchequer iflScotland (in whom,
:in effect, the execution of the Bill Was ultfniatel
vested), but particularly with respect
,o th'eLieu--
te:;i:,itteies. of Counties, -and' to< the -situation in
which the latter were-placed by such controuling
-power, :he wished part!eularty to, direct thentten-
tion.of their Lordship ; of this he cited sonic in-
stances of which he conceived to :)c some unjust
and oppressivet charges and at.s&sment:; upon cer-
tain parishes,;,s'anain the details .of its:execation,
he Contended, the way in which ScEf.,o;,,
masters and Pa-...ish'Constables-were.called upon to
act, was highly detrimental to the'service and the'
due organization and pz.....rl'ection of the Scots. Mi-
litia. -Mt Noble ,Marquis, concluded by moving.
,an Amendrnebt.by way of rider-, the. principal. of
feet of which seemed to. lie, taking away ,the pre-
sentcontrouling power of the. Barons of tlic_Exr'
:chequer on the, county lieutenancies, with respect
to the reniuuerations, allowances to::-be given,.

Lord Viscount MELVILLE argued briefly, but..
ably, in defence •of the measure. In this he did
not feel ii necessary.to.follow the Noble-Marquis
as to the minute ,details into which he had en-
tered. It was; and should be a principle; he ob-
served, to assimilate, as far as practicable, the
structure fand organization of the Scotch Militia
to -that of England. The controuling power_
veste.l in the Rarouss of the Exchequer was highly
proper and constitutional, as they were the su-,
perintendants of the public expenditure in that
part of the United Kingdom. The Militia of
Scotland was comparatively of recent institution,.
yet the degree of discipline and perfecion to
which it was brought was such as to deserve ap-
plause, instead of being impugned. .He was con-
fident the Barons of the Exchequer- dischayge4 that
part of their duty in question with as much pro-
priety, and as much to their own credit, as any
other part of their ftvletions ; and he repeated
the c:cpediency of conducting the Militia .Service,
in both parts of the Island, as far as •possible, on..
the same plan. ,

The Afarquis of., DottpLAs shortly:explained
and referring to what' he conceived grea‘cr
lies, said, the Militia service might and -ought to
be conducted.ip a superior style in Scotland.
A diyision then tdbk place—
. Fur the Amendment 3
•
Against' it .
• Majc.wity .
' The 1-3111 was read a third timeand p.assed—and.
their Lordships adjotirned till to-morrow.

IMUSE OF COI\LNIONS-VV'EDNESDAY.

Mr. MANshLL PHILLIPS obtained leave of
Knee fQr a Inont.b, on account of ill health.

PRIVILEGE.

Mr. MAnRYATa- called the attention of the
house to a part of the report of the speech of the
Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite (Mr.
Brougham), in a'Morning Paper of yesterday.—
The floe. cientlenran here read the paragraph of
which he amrplained,. which represented him to
hate given in eriflcuce, that which Mr, Bniugharn.
had stated -to have been given by a merchant in
the City of London, whose name he would,not
mention—the assertion-that " the manufacturing
classes were not distressed as stated by ,:,ther
nesses, and that if their present condition were.
improved, they would beconre pampered, and un-
hiuge;the whole framc•of society.-
_lt had. octu
said of a celebrated writer,..atill.o.o tetigit <pod non
ornavit, '.4nd it might also be said, dun: the press
touched nothing whi.ch it did, not- embellish and
,change. This appeared to be the case, 1111 the.
overeharged picture he had just brought before
them was produced: in the evidence Which he
had given, he had never had otcasion to speak of
'the salvation of the manufacturing classes.
their situation, front the circurestauce of his never
having resided in any manufacturing town, he
waii not particularly acquainted ; but tl:s he was:
sure of, that he had never insulted their distress,
by making it a : subject of ridicule. Ills object-
had been to afford them every Possible relief ;
however he 'mit-rla differ from. some, as to -die
mode • in. Which' this „might he effected, tc, none
would he yield in.anxiety for their v--e:;:nre. The
Ron. Member proceeded to show serious con-
sequences which might have -reAnited frikn arch a
mis-statement, to hifn and to his farnily',=typear-
ing in the publication of which he complained.--•
The situation in which he stood to-day might be'
that of any other individual to-morrow ; nod feel
jag this, without any vindictive dispositidn, he'
thought such a breach of privilege. ought bot to
be passed over unnoticed, and he would therefore
move that the Printer be ordered to attend.
. The_ Si,BAKEIt e.cplained .the usual course pur-
sued on snAt occasions. The part complained of
was then read by the Clerk, with the name of the
Printer and Pubiisher of ate Paper.

Mr. MARUYATT then moved, " That Thoma;
Knowles, the Printer and Publisher, he ordered
to attend at the Bar of this House on Friday."
Mr. BROUGHAM said, if he could have antiei•
pate& what had:: occurred, he would, however
painful it might haye'been to him, have mention,
cd the name ot the iudividuat to whom he had
;alluded; as even to -have-done 'that would have
htlye. been Jess unpleasant than Were the feelings
to Which
.this`mistake gave rise. ft was not his
Hon, Friend (if "he would allow him to call him
So, Mr, Marryatt) of Whom he had spoken, but a'
perfectly different person, who was not,, and who
never had been (he stated it with 'pleasure) a
Member of that House. That which he had said
wit:i respect to the. distress of the country was
not a fanciful picture, but a statement of facts.—
As to the question before the lie for one
coulttnot object, to the Motion, but. he thought
the present one of those cases in which their pri-
vileges would be best consulted by mingling With.
.their justice a large portion of their lenity. When
they took into theifeonsideption the many disad-
vantages under which what passed in thaullonse
!was given to the public.---(Here the Sproker
the Hon. dad Le'rrned Member to mcler.)-7-Ik.
would only say then that he hoped the individn'al
when called to their bar, would he most
dealt with. The paper in question he knew
nothing of fill lately, when it had been twice put
in his hands. Intfi.;: one instance it contained an
at tack on his conduct, in the other, words had
been put into his Mouth Which he had never
tered. He had, however, thought it best in both
cakes to pass it over without notice.
-Mr. A. BARING hoped, after the explanation
which had take place, the Hon. Member would
be satisfied without pr,xeeding further, as he
could not suppose that -of which he, complained
was inserted intentionally.

After a few.. words prom Mr. HERBERT, of
Kerry,.. dan_ t /....DAMS;
Mr. MARRYAT said, his object had been merely
to set right ; this had been done
,by the
statement of- the Hon. and Learned Gentleman,
and after this, if he were to' wish any punishment
at ai inflicted on the Printer, it should only
that of obliging law to print the evidence which
he really had given -in his pape'r. Whether he
(tbe Printer) did this or not, satisfied as_ he
(Mr. M.) was with the explanation which had
taken place in the. House, he would, with their
permission, withdritw his motion.
Colonel WOOD and Mr. H.. SUMNER were un-
derstood to object to its being withdrawn.
Mr. PO*SONBY thought no good purpose could
be answered by bringing the-Printer to the Bar.
All he ,could say was that it was a Mistake. The
offended Member was already satisfied, and what
could they do under such circumstances
Mr. H. SthINER, we understood, still objected
to the motion being withdraWn.
The question was put, -and the Noes appeared,
to have it. A division was however called for,
when the numbers were— -

For the Motion 110
Against it 11,6
Majcrrity
CUSTOM-HOUSE OFFICERA.

•
Mr. ROSE, in order to vindiCate the Custom-
Iloase Oftice;s from the reflections cast on them
by the Honourable and Learned (lenticular' (Mr.
Lioughmn) in his speech on the preceding night,
moved for copies of any letters, from the Board
of Trade, or tlic Board of Treasury, to the Com-
missioners Cuaorns, or the Officers of the
austom-House, to induce or, to encourage them
to put a higher value on articles for exportation;
osx wilich no duty liris,paisi, than they were really
worth.

Mr. IlnotTonAm Vad no objection to the mo-
tion ; but it now appeared that mistakes were not
confined' to Newspapers, as the Right Hon.
Gentleman in his place; sitting near him, and at-
tentively listening to his speech, had Misunder-
stood him. He had never said that instructions
had been given, and if instructions had been
given", he was not raw enough to suppose that
they would have been given by letters running
thus I am authorised by my Lord Somebody,
to direct you to swell the returns of the exports of
artiele:i not paying duty., by falsifying them hence-
forth, in the proportion often to one.',' He had
said there was a sort of -fellow-feeling between
the-Custom-House and the Bdard of Trade, and
stating this, he had gone on facts which had
been given in evidence, before them.
Atter a few words from Mr. Rose, the Chan-
cellor of the Exrhequer, Mr. Marryatt, Mr. Bas-
tard, and Sir John Newport, the motion was
egreed to.