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London, England, 1841-05-25 00:00:00

EVENING EDITION

note intend to proceed with that measure, and
t would be hailed with the utmost plea-
s ire by thousands of his fellow-countrymen. Would
the Right Hon. Hon. Baronet bring forward a Bill for
the renewal of that measure ? He (Mr. Wakley) thought
:of, ot, he hoped not, he believed not But still had he not
!seen the warmest advocate of the measure throughout ?
The Right Hon. Baronet had stated that when he ob-
tained office, he would take a careful review of all the
circumstances of the country. But he (Mr. Wakley)
would ask, could he not do that better, more carefully,
when he had more time, being out of office ?—(Loud
cheers and laughter.) He hoped on Thursday that
something tangible would be promised, for it was most
cstraOrdinary and without parallel in this country, that
such te party as that opposite, should expect to attain
eten to the threshold of office, unpledged to any one
ieasure for the public good—tono one measure in which
the public feelings or interest were enlisted—and tied to
no one promise, for the breach of which the public
< ould turn round and say they had not fulfilled their en-
gagement. To him such a state of things was very un-
reatiefactory. Between that time and Thursday, he
trusted the Hon. Baronet would turn his attention to
thee() matters, and let the House know what it was
they had to expect when he came to that
(the Ministerial) side of the House. If the Right Hon.
Baronet would offer more for the benefit of the public
a lan the present Ministry, then he should command
his (Mr.lW's.) support.—(Laughter.) He was there to
esrve his constituents and not to vote for party motives.
Nothing in his mind could be so unsatisfactory as the
eLate of parties in that House, and particularly the state
of the public mind, agitated as it was, when so much dis-
lefts" existed. There was a little nursery tale he re-
eentbered, which nursery maids repeated to little child-
ren while playing with them. It was " open your mouth
and shut your eyes, and see what luck will send you."
:Idw, he would ask whether that was fit for them as
Members of the Legislature? He thought the time was
1.-chosen, and he had unhesitatingly expressed his feel-
-5 ngs on that occasion. He thought that a great and noble
tetaiSe was perillediby the time selected for fighting it. How-
eerer,-if Minister gel' bowed that they were sincere in mak-
ing those proposals, and determined to carry them out,
he was convinced that they would be upheld by the
public ; and that in the conflict which was to ensue they
-would be, and must be, triumphant. He therefore,
Letonging, to the small section called Radicals in that
;raise, earnestly entreated the Right Hon. Baronet to
exercise his enlarged faculties between that night and
Thursday next, and see if he could not propose something
of more value than what was proposed by the Noble
:gird. If he would only come forward—the Right
Iron. Baronet shook his head, and he feared his applies-
feel would be unsuccessful—(Laughter)—with a eom-
te-ehensive scheme of Government—if he would only
show them how the public expenditure could be decreased
Mist the public income was increased, without adding
the burdens of the people, he would from the Radical
stion of the House receive that support which he would
fully entitled to receive at their hands ; sitting, as
e'ecfy did, in that House, not as the advocates and adhe-
x !nts of any party, but as the sincere advocates of the
.se-lits and interests of the people.—(Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said he had thought that in the
tgreeent, state of affairs, with questions relating to the
rtadget, and other questions which were exciting a great
ce•ssr, ee of interest before the House, it would have been
:ghly inconvenient to proceed with the Poor-law
e'euendment Bill. In the first place, it would have
oeeeelloned a very protracted discussion without any
f result.—(Hear, hear.) In the next place, in the
pectation which every Gentleman seemed to have,
t -it he 'was to account for his conduct on the hustings,
e 2,, would have had a great many speeches made with
r view rather to the hustings than to the House of Com-
i JILT. That certainly was his impression, and his reason
fee not proceeding with the Bill. But if the Honourable
t meleman thought that he had made that announce-
✓ at in consequence of having at all altered his opinions
▪ th respect to that Bill, or with respect to any particu-
:le- parts of it, he thought it would be better at once to
erthat there had been no such change.—(Hear, hear.)
ith respect to the proposals of the Hon. Gentleman, he
e aid give no opinion until they came on for discussion ;
ta, he begged leave to say that, in postponing that Bill,
) still believed that whether those who then sat on that
:le of the House, were the Government of the country,
whether Hon. Gentlemen opposite occupied those
• ts, the principles of the Poor-law Amendment Act
ey Ise sound, that they were such as would commend
t amass-Ives to any Government in that country, and such
: any Parliament would adopt as the basis of a Poor-
) e,---(Hear, hear.)
SLANEY said he believed the measures pro-
eceel by her Majesty's Government were necessary.
:Mclean should bear in mind the great change that
/ a taken place in the relative position of the ag,ricultu-
• and commercial population of the country. He thought
vet ainne was a reason why there should be a revision
rite commercial code of the country. It was abso-
lc ery necessary, for the welfare of the people, that the
ir,-.leral principles of free trade should be cautiously ex-
s Tined, and carefully admitted. He took this opportu-
✓ yof stating these opinions, as no opportunity was af-
t: ded him during the recent debate.
Sir C. GREY said that the Right Hon. Gentleman
it R. Peel) had given notice of a motion for
Teairsday next, that, if carried, would necessarily prevent
discussion which the House looked forward to, both
e..tie respect to the Corn-laws and the measures proposed
I ' die Chancellor of the Exchequer, with respect to the
I:ar,, duties and the duty on timber. If he could put it
is 'the nature of a charge, he would charge the Right
en. Gentleman with the design to stop the discussion
os these measures, to prevent the people being informed
4 their merits before an appeal was made to them on
tee subject in the usual form. He was desirous of re-
c the views which he had in voting as he did on
t' e'present emergency, which he ventured to tell Hon.
4 sntlenaen involved a question of more importance than
i::,'l yet arisen in the nineteenth century. The gauntlet
I Tel been thrown down on that side of the House, which
I in. Gentlemen on the opposite side had refused to take
i' like true knights. The principle involved
.
; the measure proposed by Government was,
'ether the prohibitory duties on foreign im-
reetetions generally would be taken off or not.
(Hear.) So far from that question being taken
on the other side, the object of the motion of which the
it Honourable Gentlemen (Sir R. Peel) had given
to ties that evening was to prevent the discussion of the
to enure. He (Sir C. Grey) would still be opposed to
e proposition relative to the Corn-laws, if brought for-
• ,rd as an isolated measure. He would never givo his
t, eport to any party for the revocation of those laws,
rt lees it was promised at the same time that they would
Leis?: forward measures for the revocation generally of
t e prohibitory duties on foreign imports. As soon as
I. ( C. Grey) understood that a general principle of
I% K nature was to be adopted, he gave his support to the
I ensure. A reduction of prices was not the greatest be-
e. it to be anticipated from a revision of our import
i ties ; the principal advantage which would follow from
t • measures of the Government was that they, would
dr, en new markets to British industry, and would
e. er additional employment for our manufactur-
iei • population. He protested against the course
-raued on this occasion by lion. Gentlemen opposite,
N seemed anxious to preclude the discussion of these
g eat questions. He trusted they would be disap-
ineed, and that matters of such vital importance :to
3 • prosperity would receive the due consideration of
rllament.
rho resolution was then put and agreed to.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL.
fr. BERNAL brought up the Report of the Adminis-
t vion of Justice (No. 0 Bill.
iir E. SUGDEN then rose to move the amendment,
which he had given notice, in the clause with re-
E Vt to the Accountant-General of the Court of Chan-
By the present Bill the funds in the Court of Ex-
c etquer were to be transferred to the Court of Chan-
( y 'Judeahi consequence of the appointment of two
e 7 , the business of the Accountant-Ge-
r,. 'are Office would be increased, and there
• p nothing in the Act now under consideration
f :t- would prevent that officer from receiving
lce or 8,0001. a year, which was far too much for the
s; ice he had to perform. He, therefore, proposed as an
eendment to the present clause, that the whole of the
es,,,„taimesses to be enjoyed by the Accountant-General of
ler 'Court of Chancery should not exceed 4,000/. a year,
a ; ;Alit he should pay into the Suitors' Fund the balance
lirphis above 4,000/. He understood that an altera-
t had been made in the Bill since it was last before the
eiee, and that perhaps would obviate the necessity of
b- amendment.

llllME.thought the House ought to be informed
',t-lie real state of the case. He should certainly sup-
r •t, the proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman, be-
ca ahe thought 4,0004 per annum an ample remunera,-
t for any lawyer.
sir E. SUGDEN said he had just learned that several
e.,7ises had been agreed to during his absence from the
Tr...ale. He did not complain of that, but as these
.t :usee had not yet been printed, he should move that
tt debate upon the Bill be adjourned.
the ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to the ad-
j. 'amount. He thought it would be injudicious, consi-
n, ,kug the great responsibility attached to the office of
4 slxintant-General, to reduce the sum which it was
• tspee4l to give him.
GOULBURN said the best thing the House
Q ,-,:141o, under all the circumstances, was to postpone
ti oilscussion till a future day. It was desirable they
a' old have the clauses before them in order to form a
r judgment upon them.
L.)ed J. RUSSELL could not consent to the redac-
t 1 proposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman, in the
r..;aments of the Accountant-General. He had no oh-
'On to he postponement of the discussion, if it could
• d tol any useful purpose; but he would remind the
jt sse that this functionary held his office for life, and
• not be removed without some gross dereliction of
.• -1T on his part. They could not, therefore, propose,
w. toyer the amount of his duties or responsibilities was,
to buake any large reduction in the sum he had hitherto

Vter a few words from Sir E. SUGDEN,
'fr. HUME said he conceived the motion for ad-
I, -Intent ought to be pressed, if the Noble Lord (Rus-
k nns not prepared to agree to the proposed limita-
t of salary.

ir. LYNCH bore testimony to the qualifications
qtr to fill the office of Accountant-General. He
▪ not say that 4,0001. a year was not sufficient, but
it he bt4tines3 of the Court of Chancery was to be
he asked what right had the night Hon. Gen-
t :7.Art to seek to curtail the emoluments of the office ?
g oj.uld not interfere with the vested rights of the
p. woo . without giving him some compensation ; but
t;.l there was rat increase of business, what better
4e, ,)ctratition couhi be given than an increased premium?
eould be more fitted to fill the office than the
possed,tion of it.
sr .:. Itman now in
7.. v. RICHAUDS supported the proposition for an in-
c. ',Au of' salary.
„'t, AGLIONBY thought that the House should take
0, to gonsider the proposition of the Right Hon. Gen-

tleman (Sir E. Sugden) before they came to any con-
clusion. _

The Bill was then postponed to Friday next.
VICTORIA PARK BILL.
Mr. BERNAL brought up the Report on the Vic-
toria Park Bill.
Mr. HUME expressed his satisfaction that Govern-
ment had attended to the petitions addressed to them on
this subject. They had acted liberally towards the
north and the east parts of the metropolis, and he was
now anxious that they should consider the situation of
the south. Unless an opportunity were soon taken of
securing some open place, such as that in the neighbour-
hood of Bethlehem Hospital, they would in a short
time find it difficult to get any eligible spot.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL said the measure would re-
ceive the support of both sides of the House.
Mr. FRENCH complained that when so much was
being done for the improvement of London, nothing of
the kind was proposed for Ireland.
Mr. E. J. STANLEY reminded the Hon. Gentleman
that in the present session the Wide Streets Dublin Bill
was passed for the improvement of the Irish metropolis.
Mr. WAKLEY did not wish to oppose a vote for the
accommodation of the public ; but it seemed to him irra-
tional to lay out so much money on the eastern part of the
metropolis, when there was so much land on the north of
the city to which the people had a right, and to which they
were still refused access. He wished the Secretary of
the Treasury would state when the 288 acres closed up
in the Regent's-park would be thrown open ? He (Mr.
Wakley) was quite sure that, while the public were kept
out from so much ground to which they had a right,
great dissatisfaction would be created by the outlay in
the present instance. He was happy to hear the Hon.
Baronet opposite (Sir E. Knatchbull) make the declara-
tion which had just fallen from him. The Hon. Baronet
was willing to give the people fresh air, and he (Mr.
Wakley) reminded him that fresh air increased the ap-
petite—(Laughter)—and he hoped the Hon. Baronet
would recollect that on a future occasion. The people
wanted bread.—(Hear, hear.)
The Bill was then ordered to be read a third time to-
morrow (this day.)
ORDNANCE SURVEY BILL
__

The House went into Committee on this Bill.
The clauses were agreed to, and the Report brought up.
PUNISHMENT OF DEATH BILL.
On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the House
went into Committee on the Punishment of Death Bill.
The Bill having received some amendments, passed
through Committee, and the Report was received.
BANKRUPTCY, INSOLVENCY, AND LUNACY

BILL.
On the motion of the SOLICITOR-GENERAL, this
Bill passed through Committee.
ENTAILS (SCOTLAND) BILL.

On the motion of the LORD ADVOCATE, this Bill
passed through Committee.
PARISH CONSTABLES' BILL.

On tho motion of Sir E. KNATCHBULL, this Bill
was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on
Friday next.
MAD-HOUSES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
On the motion of the LORD ADVOCATE, this Bill
was re-committed.

The Bill then went through Committee, and the Re-
port was ordered to be received on Thursday.
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- The Report on the Charitable Trusts Bill was re-
ceived, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time
on Friday, the 4th of June.
The Vaccination Bill was read a third time and passed.