The Sun.
London, England, 1812-07-09 00:00:00

lIOUSE OF COMNIONS.--,WEDNESDAY.

The Poor Returns Bill Was read a third dale
and passed. . -
A Report of. the. Committee on the Stone Dot'
tle•Duty Bill was brought up and agreed to ; the'
13111 was ,ordered to be read a third. time to-
morrow.
• The Report of the Committee on the Isle ot
Man Trade was , bronght up by Mr. KENLUCKi
and agreed to ; and a Bill was ordered to !ie.
brought in.
The Life Annuity Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to go through a Committee to-morrow-
Mr.-WHARTON brought in a Bill for the better
preventing of Sinuggling, which was read a first
time, and ordered to: be read a second time to..'
morrow.

A Biit was also brought in by Mr. WHARTON
.for the regulhting of the Coffee Trade, which -Wag
read a first time, and ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow.

Sir F. BURDETT presentegl a Petition from the
Parish of St. Marys Whitechapeland Mr. MEI
•LISII presented Petitions front Wapping au('
Clerkenwellagainst the Nightly VilaLeh
These Petitions were ordered to lie on the tahlq
till the third reading of the Bill.
Sir F. BURDETT, adverting to the Petition whieh
he had presented from the Clerks of the Nail
Office, observed, that it was a case of very great
hardship, and begged to know whether Groverti-
mem had taken it into consideration. _ .

Mr. ROBINSON .stated, that those Clerks wiz°
filled important situations, and whose duties were
of a nature to require it, were provided with 54/113'
ries suitably high; but there were others iu tl4.
Navy Offices whose duty was of such a nature
not to be more than mere .manual labour, and the'
services of these persons was of such a nature 43.,
would not admit of any augmentation of salary.
The Malt Regulation Bill went through -a Com"'
mittee, when some new regulations were adopted
on the suggestion of Mr. Wbarton. The Repoll_
of the Committee was received., and ordered to bo, •
taken into further consideration on Friday next,.
and the Bill to-be printed as amended.
The Report of the Commercial Exchequer Bills-
Bill was taken into further consideration ; and;
after some discussion, was agreed to, and the Bit'
ordered to be read athird time to-morrow.

On the Report of the Loyal Tokens Bill being •
taken into further, consideration,'!,
Mr. HUME insisted that a longer period shoulj
be allowed for calling in of Local Token,---as they
had been issued at a very great expence, and en-
tirely for the accommodation of the Public.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
the Tokens employed by the Bank were much bet"
ter; and that if the circulation of Local Tokens
should at any- future period be deemed necessall':'•
Parliament would then take into consideratin°
the most proper means for regulating the circulv
.tion of them ; but at present he thought it was,
proper that they should ,e called in as soon as
possible.
-GIDDY observed, that as tokens Were
issued for a shilling which were not worth a sis.i
pence, the Bank tokens. were bought up, an
converted into these spurious tokens. He thought
it expedient that these. local' tokens 'should be
'called in at the time, specified in the Bill.
Mr. HUSKISSON said, that it 'was an undoubt-
ed fact that -when- the Bank token is of a value
superior -to that. of the local toket4s, they are
bought up for the purpose of converting Llle'
into these local tokens : he thereto' e thought that
'it as ,highly necessary to put a stop to the elf'
culation of local tokens ; and if this was carrie ,
into effect, the Bank tokens would find their way
into districts where they are not at present to
.be met with. it was well known that the make"
of local tokens employed agents to whom they
'allowed a commission often per cent. for issuint:i
their tokens, instead of those of the Bank. Fle .
thought that before the 25th of March, 0313'
there was abundance of time for persons to pr°-
vide themselves with Bank tokens, instead of the,
local ones-. -Though the Bill does not compel
Bank to supply tokens„whateyer the want °f
'
the Public Might be, yet he thought that the 13111
should have been framed in such a way as to be
compulsory on the Bank to issue their tokens'
The priCe of silver having risen 'since the fir-'t
issuing of the Bank tokens in 1811, so as to be
now within twopence halfpenny of the real value
of the Bank token. If any fur+.l,er rise take'
place on silver, he thought it wouid be necessarY. •
for Parliament to raise the nominal value of .the
tokens, or they would all disappear.,
Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY did not tierce with the
Honourable Gentleman who spoke lasi), as to the
time that 6hould be fixed for the calling in °f
Local Tokens :. he thought—that the persons whcs•
i-;sued those Tokens did what N 743 lawful at the
time ; as those who issued Tokens nearest t4e

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value of the silvet, did the greatest be-;
-44t.lit to the public : he thought it-very hard that
they should be the greatest losers, as they cer-
tainly would be, if the circulation of these 'Tokens
should be stopped at the time-specified in the Bill J.,
he therefore moved,as an amendment, that the
term be extendedfrom the 25th of Mara, 1813,
till the 25th of March, 1814.
Mr. BANKS thought, that although Some in-
dividuals 'might be injuied by the stopping of
the circulation of these Tokens, vet it was a mea-
sure so necessary, that the sooner it took place
the better:
Mr. ROSE observed, that in some prices the
tokens were not of half their nominal value, and
that in others their 'issue was accompnied by a
ntitiCe, that if they v.-ere brought back in eight
and forty hours they Avould- he paid—not in money,
bat in goods to their amok t.
.after .a
few more observations from Mr: P.
Gat4y, Mr. Hiu.kisson, and Mr.' Hume, the
4.mendment was negatived without a division.
The Bill was then re-committed,. for the pur-
Pos of introducing into it several new clauses
proposed by the Chancellor. of the Exchequer,.
and the House having resumed, the report was
brought up and agreed to, and the Bill was-order-
ed to i)e read a third time to-morrow.
A Message from the Lords announced their
raships assent to a number of public and private

Lord JOCELYN brought in a Bill to amend the
'laws rekting to tin-zit:oe roads in Ireland. Read
a first, and ordered to be read a second time on
./.1..011‘..4-y, and to be printed.
NIGHTLY WATCH.
I Mr: BYNG presented a Petition from the Parish
of 8t: Leopard Shoreditcli, against the Nightly
Watch Bill. -
Ordered to lie on the table. •
tr. WIIITUE.E,ID presented a Petition from the
Urisla of St. Luke, against the. Nightly Watch
./%11:

k-t the motion that it do lie on the table,
Mr. BROUGHAM having heard the agreeable
'dl that the further proceedings in the said
'lll were to be dropped for the present Session,
U'ished to know how the fact stood.
Mr. GOULDBOURNE denied having cireulated.
anY such rumour as that mentioned by the Hon.
4nd Learned Gentleman.
Mr. EaouGßAm observed,
.that he did not im-
Pute the circulation to the Honourable Gentle-
-1"- The perkin who told the rumour to him,
.certainly believed it, and his object‘in rising Was,
t
appeal from that ill-informed person to the
br'etter informed persons on the other side of the
, WHITBREAD declared, that 'the.general im-
vr-g.sion made on the minds: of the London public
1„;'lth respect to the merits of- the Nightly Watch-.
'lll. was, that it wthilcl encumber them with a
great pene
additional ex • without in the least con-
ducing_
, to their security. The increased expense
Which this Bill would-occasion if it .were.passed,.
ti "Id be 74,0001. a year.; he hoped it, would be
'6l,ped, at feast for the present Session.
tr Sir S. ROMILLY trusted that the would not
j7Passed; it had arrived' at its last Stage without
,11 explanationdd the principles- on which it
I"roceeded. which, hi his -opinion,
!,t!'ive undue power to the Police, and.' it was
°6gly objected to by those whom it, professed
protect' but who disclaimed any wish to,be so.
Pr°t.eeted.
a„t-1-r• W. SMITH was persuaded, that a skilful
I'.l vigilant execution or the existing police
‘‘vs would be sufficient for the piotcclion of
tile public.
GOLDBOURNE observed, the Nightly Watch
Was founded on the Report of a Committee
expressly appointed by that Muse, to inquire
in
t° the subject, and -in whose opinion the present
ti"e of guarding the public from depredation and
olence was insufficient.
lal,e
F . BURDETT- said, that if blame was attach,
he to any persons in tlie late disgraceful pro-
teedings in which the Bill originated, it, was to
Police, to which body there was nothing ap-
tueible in the report of the Committee. He
~ed the Housewould seriously pause before
they adopted 'a measure which went to. increase
'l(ation to an extent of which the country was
not aware.
• , 11'. ABERCROMBIE concurred in urging the pro-
. .zs'Y'ety of postponing the Bill until- the next Sei-
°ll• He characterised the report on which the
dill
was founded as defective in two points. In
iZe first place, in not furnishing any evidence ;in
4—Le second place, in not touching on the conduct
n&system of the police.
RUME wished the Bill might go no fur-
tr- Its tendency was to double the present ex-
,
;eftlee of the parishes; and it would be productive
nut earthly good.
•
1. BATHURST did not think it would be satis-
e`esrY-to the country if Parliament w'ere to se-
parate, without passing some measure of this sort.
• I,A4r:'III(NG asserted, that those parishes who
ail local acts were .as well watched as this Bill
Posed at half the expellee.
4ti.41.• HELLISH di'l net consider the present Ad-
. 6istration as at all responsible for the defects
ti
postills Bill, which, in his opinion, had better be
honed until next year.
BROUGHM addressed the Speaker by the
site 6f " Mr. President,". which occasioned con-•
4'elable laughter. When the mirth 'of the House,
Otl subsided, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
°(teded to suite his objections to the Bill,which
b,tt•e directed not against any particular clause,
agOavrist the measure in toto, \which he describ-
as hing Originated in the heat of the ino-
egleat, under the influence of temporary alarm and
(13c. asperation. If this 'Bill were agreed to, the
di Aeration.
parishes which had obtained.local,Acts
)..11`1,11,Y of them only dufing• the last Session of
ti,T"aftient), would be deprived of the benefit re-,
from them., Since the Bill was recom-
„tieltted, a clause hi slipped in, vesting 'a
in Power in the Police-offices—that of appoint-,
t,p,a superintending constable in each parish, at
•
a year, whose duty it should be -to'go •rourid
te ',lBee if the constables ,of the night were in at-
cT.'anc-e, and to report such as were not to the
'(..-offices lie objected to the principle of
-•
at
llg respectable householders (which the con-
-4dhl11.1" of the night were), subject to the mere
- 4ilee of the Police-offices. .

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the i'etition ivitS the ordered to lie on ti!e
table, avid the third reading of the Nightly Watch
Bill appointed for Monday neat.
Mr. "WHITBREAD said, that before he brought:
forward the • motion,' .of whiCh he had given :io-
tice,. on the subject- of the ToleratiOn Acts, he
wished to be informed by the Gentlemen on the
Treasury Bench, whether there was, any'inten-,
tiOn on the part of Government to bring forward-
such a motion ?

TheCHANcE.Li.oa of the EXCHEQUER said, he
understood it to be the intention of a Noble
Friend of his, not now in the House, -to bring
the subject under considerition.
. Mr. WHITBREAD declared, that in consequence
of that statement, he should wave his motion for
the present. ,
SECRET COMMITTEE.

LEltitst-iit brought up the Reporfof thiti
Secret Committee appointed to inquire into the.
state of the existing Disturbances in the Counties.
The Report being received,was read by the Clerk;
in substance nearly as follows : •1
It declared, that the Compaittee having examin-
ed the documents referred to them, regretted to
State, ,that disturbances had existed for some
months' in Lancaster, and the West Riding of
Yorkshire, a,nd part of Cheshire, alarming-to the
safety of the country. That they appeared to have
commenced in .February last, but. tlifat no infor-
mation could be obtained until she 23d of May.--!-
That the rioters were in the habit of assembling
in the night time with armed weapons,- breaking
open houses, plundering the inhabitants, and,- in
some instances, burning the houses they h'ad so`
attacked. That they wrote threat-ening letters
to those who. assisted in the attempts to quell
their disorder, and even proceeded to the commis-
sion of murder, as was the Case in the instance of
the murder of Mr. FostCr,".. which 'prochiced the
greatest alarm in the district, he being fired at in
consequence of his exertions to suppress their vio-
lence. The Committee declined entering into a
detail of the outrages that Were perpetrated, and
proceeded to state that the object rir these ex-
.cesses seemed to be the destruction of machinery,
but that latterly it had assumed a more serious as-
, pect. That various honses were since-broke open,
and entered in the night time, and the arms de..
manded and taken away, and •that in most in-
stances the property was left untouched. That
in the neighbourhoOd of Huddersfield, all the arms
were taken away. That the whole of these pro-
ceedings appeared to the Committee to be tile re-
sult of system, that they acted under the controul
of leaders, that rolls were regularly called over,
distinguishing the individuals, not by,nanie, but
by numbers ; that sky-rockets were let off at
night; and other Signals concerted, by which the
secret committees kept up a communication with 1
each, other ; that delegates were Appointed, and
an oath prescribed, pledging them not :to diS-
closethe persons who 'composed the private com-
mittees; tither by name, by description, or by any
other act which might lead to their detection, on
the penalty of being put out gf the World by the
first brother who should meet him, .and
.of having
his name-blotted out frOm natiire. It also *bound
them individually to pursue any traitor to the
cause -with unceasing vengeance. 'lt appeared
from the evidence -that they agreed to. pay 2d. a
week each as a general fand, and that- some disa-.
greernents•arose in consequence_of the delegate?
, omitting to make good the money so obtained.
It did not appear that any money was distributed .
among th.e rioters. The report proiceeded to state,
that intimations were made representing London
and parts of Ireland as likely to follow -their ex-
ample, and affirming that several respectable per-
sons would in short time declare themselves in fa-
vour of their proceedings, but the Committee were
happy to be able to :al that there was no evi-
dence whatever to that effect. They did not
know the object- in contemplation ; but whether
it was.for French purposes, and against our trade-
or not, the system bf terror was so great, and the
eagerness to procure arms so apparent,
.as to im-
press upon the minds a the Committee a strong
sense of the danger of such proceedings to the,,
security of the Country. -
The. CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER moved
that the report should lie on the table.

Mr. PONSONBY wished to know at what time it
was the intention that it should betaken into con-
sideration.
The .CILINCELLOR Of theDtCligo.lJEß named Fri-
day next.
Mr. PONSONBY said he did not wish to -impri!ss-
4ny improper disclosure, but heithougin it would
be for the conyan:trice of the ..douse; to know
what the nature of the Bill or Bills, intended to be"
founded on the Report would be ?
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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQEUR had no
objection to state, that the object of the proceed-
ings would be to put -down nocturnal meetings,
and defeat the purposes of the rioters.
Mr. WHITBREAD declared he was surprised that
the Right Honourable Gentleman was unprepared
to state the measures. distincly. The only- evi-
dence laid before the Committee was the - papers
communicated by Government. He was on that
Committee, and had voted with the minority .on a
.motion for not excluding. other witnesses from
giving information. He_did, not know that Go-
vernment could bring forward any enactment for
which he should vote, conceiving that the law as
it stood,combined with the improvement of triide in
the manufacturing. districts, would meet the exi-
gencies of the case.
Mr. BATHURST deprecated • any premature dis-
cussion of the subject. •
Mr. PONSONBY repeated his assertion, that it
Ivorild be for the convenience. of the House to
state the nature of the intended measures. •

Mr. WHITBREAD could ouly ascribe the silence
of Ministers to their ignorance, He sincerely
quitted their any knowledge of the ineasures
they Would adopt:
After some, further observations from Mr. Ba-
thurst and' Sir Francis Burdett, the Report was
Ordered to be taken into consideration on Friday
next.