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for Lynn. The Noble Lord did not make the sugges-
tion attributed to him by the Hon. Gentleman. What he
said was, that at a time when several ships laden
with corn, and bound to this country, were unable to
obtain egress into the Atlantic by stress of weather,
there were several ships of war cruising off Portugal and
doing nothing, which might have been better employed
in assisting these ships out of their difficulties.—(Hear.)
He would not detain the House any further, and he
would sit down imploring the Noble Lord at the
head of the Government to give his most serious and at-
tentive consideration t) the subject of the navigation-
laws, and not too hastily come to a conclusion upon it.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he wished to tell the
Hon. Gentleman that he had understood him (Lord John
Russell) quite correctly, and he questioned if the nevi-
o'ation•laws ought to be left for future deliberation.
Mr. TRELAWNY supported the Bill.
Mr. S. HERBERT said, so far as this Bill was con-
cerned he had no sort of objection to its passing. He
was most anxious that there should continue to he an
ample !supply of food in this country and in Ireland,
particularly during the fruit season, and without giving
any opinion upon the large and important question of
the navigation-laws, he was not disposed to resist the
progress of this temporary measure. He did most sin-
cerely regret that the Government had abandoned a Bill
which, if calculated to be useful at al', would be pre-
eminently useful in the present year.
Mr. MITCHELL would confine himself t) the ques-
tion of the expediency of these laws, and the question
was, could ships be chartered at a lower rate of freight
•han at present ? He affirmed that they could not, and
therefore that did away with the necessity of the Bill.
Taking all the freights together, the freights were 30
per cent. higher than they had been last year. It should
be recollected that the greater part of the British ship-
ping was employed in the conveyance of corn, which
they took in preference to other freights. He did not
see, therefore, that any necessity now existed either for
sending ships of war to bring corn to this country, or
for the suspension of these laws.
Mr. AARON CHAPMAN fully agreed with the
Hon. Member who had just sat down, that it would
have been imprudent to have used ships of war in the
carrying of corn, and he as fully disagreed with the ar-
guments of the Hon. Member opposite (Mr. Trelawny),
who appeared to found all his arguments on hiaknowledge
of the Royal Yacht Club.—(Laughter.) In his opinion
the safety of this country depended upon our navy, and
the efficiency of that navy depended upon the encourage-
ment of the shipping now employed in commerce. He
thought that the Bill was not required, and should not
be proceeded with.
Mr. TRELAWNY explained.
Lord JOHN MANNERS said that after the declara-
tion of the Noble Lord that he would give this measure
his unbiassed consideration next year, he (Lord J. Man-
ners) was not disposed to oppose the further suspension
of the navigation-laws.
Mr. HUDSON said that he did not think it would be
wise at present to obstruct the Government, for he was
prepared to grant that some interests in the country
might be benefited by the suspension of the navigation-
laws for a time.
Mr. FORSTER hoped that the Protectionists would
not at the forthcoming eleztion raise a cry in favour of
the shipowners similar to that which in 1841 they raised
for the agriculturists, because the former interests would
be very apt to imagine that their fate would be the
same.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord G. BENTINCK said, after what had been said
he should not put the House to the trouble of a division,
and should withdraw his amendment.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed on Monday.
CUSTODY OF OFFENDERS BILL.
The House then went into Committee on this Bill, and
the clauses, after some verbal amendments, were agreed
to.—Report on Monday.
PRISONS BILL. _ _ .

Lord MAHON wished to know whether, after what
occurred, the Noble Lord intended to proceed with this
Bill during the present session. He thought, con-
sidering the period of the session, and the absence
of many Honourable Members who took
much interest in the matter, it would be
advisable, and more conducive to the public interests, if
it were withdrawn. There certainly was no haste for
it; and ho trusted, therefore, that the Noble Lord would
not press it on a thin House, but adopt his suggestion.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL would take the Noble Lord's
suggestion into consideration, and his Right Hon.
Friend (Sir George Grey) would, on Monday, state
the course which the Government intended to adopt with
respect to the measure.
STOCK-IN-TRADE EXEMPTION BILL.

On the second reading of this Bill being moved,
Sir R. H. INGLIS deprecated the changing of the law
without discussing its principles and its influence on those
who would be affected by it. He considered that the Bill
proposed too sweeping a change in the law, and that any
change should be gradual.—(Hear.) Unless they were
prepared to bring in a general Bill they would do great
injustice to a large portion of the country. If they were
prepared to rate stock in trade, the owner of tithes had
no right to complain ; but if they did not do so they
would inflict a grievous injustice upon them. He did not
intend to divide the House ; but, unless the Right Hon.
Baronet gave a pledge that ho would bring such a Bill
as the one he had recommended next session, he should
be compelled to do so.
Sir G. GREY admitted that the subject was fraught
with difficulties. The Bill had been brought in in ac-
cordance with a decision of the Court of Queen's Bench.
tie was ready to admit that the subject required future
legislation, and, no doubt, mature consideration might
lead him to bring forward a more general and unobjec-
tionable measure than the one before the House.—

(Hear.) He did not think any greater burden would
be placed upon the tithe owner than on the owners of
any other description of property.—(Hear.)
Sir JOHN TROLLOPE would rather that this Act
should be made a permanent one than that the question
should be mooted annually. He did not think that the
statements of the Right lion. Baronet were so explicit
as the House had a right to expect.
Mr. HENLEY thought it would be impossible to make
the Act permanent. He admitted that the subject was
one that ought to be looked at with a very jealous eye.
If the law was not either put an end to or suspended, it
would lead to eternal litigation.
After some observations from Mr. NEWDEGATE,
Mr. HUDSON expressed a hope that the Government
would tur❑ their attention to the rating of railways, as
at present he thought the mode of rating those under-
takings was most unjust. In some instances railways
paid two-thirds of the rate of the county through which
they passed. He trusted that Government would
either bring in a Bill on the subject, or grant a Select
Committee to take the matter into consideration.
After a few words from Colonel ROLLESTON,
Sir ROBERT INGLIS said that he would not press
the House to a division, but he hoped the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman the Home Secretary would take the subject into
consideration during its recess, and bring forward a mea•
sure next session for the purpose of removing the evils
which at present existed on the subject of rating.
After a few words from Mr. B. ESTCOTT and Sir C.
BURRELL,
Lord G. BENTINCK thought the subject too im-
portant to be discussed in such a thin House, when there
was no Cabinet Minister present except the Right Hon.
Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment. This was one of the evils which resulted from
their working double time. He should, therefore, move
that the House be counted.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but there was a
sufficient number of Members present to form a House.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed on Monday next.
The House then adjourned till Five o'clock.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.
SUTTON HARBOUR IMPROVEMENT BILL.
Sir J. Y. BULLER moved that the report from the
Committee on the Sutton Harbour Improvement Bill be
considered forthwith, prints of the amended Bill having
been deposited on Wednesday, the 30th day of June last.
Mr. GREENE suggested that the better course would
be to recommit the Bill.
Sir JOHN Y. BULLER would consent to the re-
committal of the Bill, provided that the Committee were ,
allowed to sit on Monday next.
This course was agreed to.
COMMIS lON IN THE LORDS.
Sir Augustus Clifford, Usher of the Black Rod,
appeared at the bar and summoned the House to the
bar of the House of Lords, to hear the Royal assent
given by commission to several Bills.
The SPEAKER, accompanied by several Members, left
for the House of Lords.
On the return of the SPEAKER, he announced that
several Bills (for which see Lords' report) had received
the Royal assent.
LORDS' AMENDMENTS.
The Lords' amendments- to the following Bills were
considered and agreed to :

Ashton Gas
Caledonian Railway (Branches to Canonbie, &c.)
Chard Canal and Railway (Eottension and Amalgamaton)
Dublin and Drogheda Railway (Purchase of Navan
Branch, &c.)
East Lothian Central Railway
Eastern Union and the Ipswich and Bury Saint Ed-
mund's Railways Amalgamation
Edinburgh Water orks
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock. and Ayr Railway (No. 1).
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 2).
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 4).
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway, and
Glasgow and Belfast Union Railway (No. 1).
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway
(No. 2).
Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway

(No. 4).
London and North-Western Railway (Portobello and
Wolverhampton Branch, Sze.)
Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway,, and
Manchester and Lincoln Union Railway, and Ches-
terfield and Gainsborough Ctmal Amalgamation.
Midland Great Western Railway of Ireland (Extension
from Athlone to Galway).
Newport, Abergavenny, and Ilereford Railway (Exten-
sion to Taff Vale Railway).
Northampton and Banbury Railway.
Parkgato and Chester and Birkenhead Junction Railway.
South Staffordshire Railway (Cannock, Wyrley, and
Norton Branches, &c.)
Swansea and Amman Junction Railway.
York Improvement (Lendal Bridge and Approaches).
Colonel SIBTHORP presented a petition from a great
number of officers employed in the administration of the
poor-law in England and Wales, praying that the Go-
vernment would grant a superannuation fund.
RELIEF COMMITTEES.

Mr. B. OSBORNE presented a pcition from Long.
100, A irelaudt praying thitt. the Mouse would institute