The Sun.
London, England, 1841-03-13 00:00:00

ROYAL SURREY THEATRE.

Triumphant success of " Poor Jack," equal to " My Poll and
my Partner Joe." Mr. T. P. Cooke in Two Pieces. Ex-
traordinary attraction, and crowded houses.
THIS EVENING, MARCH 13.
Will be acted a Nautical Drama in Four Parts, called
POOR JACK ; OR THE WIFE OF A SAILOR.
In which Mr. T. P. Cooke, and the entire strength of the
Company, will perform.
After which,
ROBERT MACAIRE.
Robert Macaire by Mr. T. P. Cooke.
To conclude with
THE RIEVER'S RANSOM ; OR, GILDEROY.

HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE THIS DAY.
Morning 15 minutes after 5. I Evening 33 minutes after 5.

LONDON:

zat.noll ao, 2042.

Amongst the petitions presented last night to
the House of Lords, was one from a Mr. CARR,
complaining of having been dismissed from a
Judgeship in Canada, the answer to which was
that he had appropriated money which did not
belong to him; and had never accounted for it.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL gave notice' that
after Easter, he would move for a Committee to
inquire into the cause of duelling.
A brief, but a somewhat personal, conversation
took place between the Bishop of EXETER and
the Marquis of NORMANBY, about laying on the
tabk the opinion of Chief Justice STEWART, when
Attorney-General of Canada, relative to San
Sulpice, which the Noble Marquis declined to do,
as it was contrary to etiquette to lay the opinions of
t he law officers of the Crown before Parliament.
The Earl of GLENGA LL moved for the attend-
ance of more persons connected with the admin-
istration of the Poor4aw in Ireland, which the
Marquis of No RM NBY undertook to procure.
Their Lordships did no business of importance.
In the Commons, the Middlesex Sessions Bill
was read a second time ; and the Severn Naviga-
tion Bill was referred to the Private Business
Committee.

The consistency of Sir R. INGLIS was illus-
trated by his presenting a petition for securing
protection to the Christians of the Levant, and
the Protestants and Jews of Syria, the prayer of
which the Hon. Baronet supported. He would
shower favours on the Jews in the East, and he
would deny justice to the Jews at home.
In reply to the Hon. Baronet, Lord PALMER-.
STON assured him that the Government had in-
terfered with the Porte in favour both of the
Christians and the Jews of Syria, and if the hatti
scheriff which had been issued on the subject
could be enforced, the wishes of the Hon. Baronet
would be accomplished. _ _

In reply to Lord F. EGERTON, Lord PALMER-
STON stated that he had received a copy of a fir-
man conferring on MEHEMET ALI the Govern-
ment of Egypt, with hereditary succession, on
certain conditions, but he could not say whether
it was the same as that which had appeared in
the papers. Till some question arose concerning
this firman amongst the Allied Powers, it was a
matter between the SULTAN and his vassal.
Sir ROBERT PEEL, not satisfied with this ex-
planation, demanded whether that part of the
airman which reserved to the Porte the right of
determining which of the sons of MEHEMET
ALI should succeed him, was consistent with the
Quadruple Treaty, and whether the Four Powers
were parties to it.
Lord PALMERSTON said it was impossible for
him to say what the Four Powers might think
on this particular point. He admitted that the
PACHA had remonstrated against the firman, but
he was not aware of the SULTAN'S answer. The
intention of the Four Powers was that the SuL-
TAN should grant a bona fide hereditary succes-
sion to MEHEMET ALI. Some further conversa-
tion took place on this now interesting question,
for which we refer to our report.

Mr. KELLY announced that he would not go
into Committee with the Punishment of Death
Bill till after Easter.

In a Committee on the Customs Duties of the
West Indies and North American colonies Mr.
LADOUCHERE explained the present anomalous
and injurious nature of those duties, and gave a
brief history of their origin, and of the progress
made in improving them. The Right Hon. Gen-
tleman moved a series of resolutions on which he
asked no opinion, but merely laid them on the
table for consideration. After a few brief re-
marks from Mr. J. PALMER and Mr. EWART, the
House resumed, and the debate on the subject
was adjourned. We shall wait to see the Right
Hon. Gentleman's resolutions before we offer
any remarks offthem or on the speech, further
than to say that the Right Hon. Gentleman has
entered a right path, though he goes in it only
a very small distance.
The East India Rum Bill went through a

Committee, after a considerable discussion, but
without any important amendments.
On the motion to read the County Courts Bill
a second time, Sir F. POLLocK. made a speech
against the Bill, against the power of treat ng
fifty officers given by the Bill to Government,
against the power of imprisoning 'given by the
Bill, which was liable to abuse, and he declared
he would not assent to any measure of the sot t.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL explained the ori.gin
of the Bill, and complained of the unnecesrary
attack his; Learned Friend had made on the
Government.
Sir EDWARD SUGDEN defended Sir F. POL-
LOCK. The Bill, he said, was in favour of the
middle classes, and against the humblest classes
of society. There was one piece of folly in it--
a Court of Reconcilement—but, on the whole.,
the Bill was less partial than some former Bills.
After a somewhat protracted debate, the bill
was read a second time. Some routine matters
were -passed, and at a Quarter past One the
House adjourned.

The postponement of the San Sulpice discussion
in the House of Peers till Monday, has given time
to lay more information on the question. before
Parliament, entrapped into a false belief by the
Bishop of EXETER'S carefully prepared state-
ment; and that information will lead to the re-
jection of the Right Rev. Prelate's motion. The
subject was renewed last night in, the House of
Peers, and the Bishop's querulous remarks were
indicative of failure. His faithful ally, too, in
mischievous bigotry, the Standard, anticipates
the result with alarm. "We trust," it said last
night—and the passage is worth remembering, as
a picture of the bulk of the Conservatives—" we
trust that the Protestants of the empire will keep
their eyes steadily fixed upon the motion; we own
that we are not without a distrust of some of those
who call themselves, and are sillily called by others,
Conservatives, merely because, forsooth, they
would save their own titles, estates, sinecures, pen-
sions, and influence, though they would freely
pay away all that is dear or valuable to the Con-
servative people, as an insurance upon the things
precious to themselves."

The distrust and alarm of the Standard are
well founded. No statesman of any character
in the Hduse of Peers, except his faculties be
impaired by age, will be found to support the
Bishop of ,EXETER'S motion. At least, all those
best acquainted with colonial subjects, from the
offices they have held—the Earl of RIPON, the
Earl of ABERDEEN, Lord ELLENBOROUGH—WiII,
we are assured, discountenance the bigoted at-
tempt to represent the House of Lords as the
determined enemies of all the Catholics of the
empire.

So great, indeed, are the distrust and alarm
of the Standard, that even that truly Conserva-
tive Nobleman, the late Earl of BATHURST—the
last wearer, except the late Lord ARDEN, of a
pig-tail—who, in the course of his official duties,
appears to have incorporated by letters patent
the Romish Seminary of San Nicholai, has in-
curred the wrath and contempt of the Standard.
" He did," that Journal avers, though he was in
office with the Tories, " many foolish and many
mischievous things as Colonial Minister." But
it happens that these foolish and mischievous
things are precedents which completely rebut
the Bishop of EXETER'S wild assertion that to
incorporate n Romish seminary is a thing un-
heard of—the first violent blow at the Reforma-
tion, and such a blow as JAMES 11. never dared
to strike, and Father PETER never dared to de-
mand ; and therefore the Standard very coolly
and very contemptuously proposes to set them
wholly aside as foolish and mischievous.
Though our Contemporary in general is a
great stickler for forms and precedents, now that
he finds them against him, with true Chartist
daring he flings them to the winds, and will not
have " the national archives ransacked for argu-
ments before the Houses of Parliament can come
to a decision." In a glorious fervour of mockery
he says "if this be allowed a reprint of Rymer'g
Feeders' may be called for as the preface to
discussion, how plain soever shall be the question
to be discussed." When the Tories thus treat
Tory precedent with contempt it is plain that
they are completely in error, and the mischief
which the Bishop of EXETER would perpetrate,.
wants even the sanction of Tory Ministers of the
worst times of Toryism.
Since we last adverted to this subject, the House
of Uomnions Ifas printed and published a despatch
from Lord GODERICH, now Earl of RIPON, to
Lord AYLMER, dated Downing-street, Septem-
ber 13, 1831, which tells so much against all the
abusive arguments of the Bishop of EXETER,
that we are not surprised at the Tories disliking
to have more information laid before Parliament.
From this despatch, it appears that so early at
least as 1827, the subject of settling the claims of
the Seminary of San Sulpice to the seignorial
rights of Montreal, had engaged the attention of
Government, and been made the object,
though unsuccessful, of a bargain. Lord
GODERICH was, however, convinced that "it was
of the highest importance " to emancipate
from the restrictions of the feudal law " the
great commercial city of Montreal," and he de-
scribes the opposition to that measure "as the
selfish clamour of men, whose wharves and ware-
houses needed no enlargement," and who
"found their interest in discouraging competi-
tion." He said, therefore, in 1831, that it would
be highly desirable to do what Lord SYDENHAM
has now done, and the Noble Lord proceeded to
lay down a plan for accomplishing it.
He certainly began by stating that he had no
doubt that the "legal title to the Seigneurie of
Montreal is in the Crown," but in order to pre-
serve all the rights of the Seminary, and
being anxious to " prevent whatever might de-
rogate from its just claims to esteem and
confidence," he instructed the Gpvernor-G e-
neral to open a friendly negotiation with
the members. He stated that he was aware
of the legal objection to recognise the corporate
character in which they assumed. to act; but he
overruled those objections as " misplaced and
inconclusive." He so far recognised the previous
existence of this Romish Corporation, that he
proposed to " declare in due form of law that it
is extant;" and he wrote that her MAJESTY
" will issue a new charter for their incorporation,
and endow them with revenues equal in amount
to the income of which they have hitherto been
n the receipt." The charter of incorporation
was to be granted, too, "in whatever form the
Members of the Seminary may think most de-
sirable." That is the tenor of Lord GODERICH'S
despatch ; and the Noble Lord has too high a
sense of honour to repudiate a measure
completed on his own principles, because
his attempt was unfortunately not success-
ful. But if he do not repudiate the prin-
Diples of his despatch, he must tell the Bishop
of EXETER on Monday that the Rev. Prelate
entirely mis-stated the fact when he asserted
that the incorporation of a body of the Romish
priests by Lord SYDENHAM is a thing unknown
and unheard of.

The monstrous assertion that to incorporate
the Seminary of San Sulpice is a blow at the
Reformation, and a violation of the Constitution,
being blown to the winds, let us look at
the real merits of the case. For upwards of
seventy years that Seminary has been in
possession of these signorial feudal rights,
which are very mischievous to Montreal. No
statesman has dreamed of forcibly ejecting the
Seminary, or denying its equitable right, which
rests on as good a foundation as the Bishop
of EXETER'S claim to the revenue of his
see. As the Seminary is not to be forcibly
ejected, and its rights are mischievous, it is pro-
posed to commute them for a reasonable consi-
deration. The inhabitants of Montreal appear
extremely willing to give the small sum pro-
posed, about one-twentieth of the value of their
property, to get rid of these feudal inflictions.
But how could that be done, unless the
Seminary had a legal existence ? To give it that
legal existence is quite as much for the sake of
those who are to pay their money, as for the sake
of the Seminary which is to be incorporated. At
the same time, a clause of the ordinance which
incorporates it, and enables the inhabitants to
get rid of these feudal claims, limits the whole
sum to be paid to the Seminary to 44,0001. If the
commutation yields more than that, the ordi-

nance places all the suvilius at the dispo&al o
de legislative authority of Canc,da.
We are no friends to ecclesiastical corpora-
tions of any kind; we should be glad to see
the people of Canada so enlightened as to re-
quire the dissolution of San Sulpice, and of
every other ecclesiastical corporation ; but as
long as they regard it with reverence, it is
Monstrous fbr a Bishop, a member of an-
other ecclesiastical corporation, to propose
that so equitable an arrangement as this
should be set aside, in order that the pro-
perty may be ,taken away from Catholics
and appropriated to. Protestants. The House of
Lords must shrink, we presume, from contaminat-
ing itself by the commission of such an act of in-
justice; but if it consent to the motion of the
Bishop of EXETER, the public, particularly the
Catholics, in every part of the empire, will not
shrink from branding it as a most unjust and un-
worthy legislative assembly.

Sir ROBERT PEEL'S speech on Thursday even-
ing must have given great satisfaction to the en-
lightened friends of popular instruction. It is
now, we believe, upwards of seventeen years
since the London Mechanics' Institution was esta-
blished, and since that time the benevolent and
zealous men who promoted it have seen similar
institutions called into existence in every part Of
the country. At present there is scarcely a third-
rate town of the empire without one, and in the
metropolis there are several similar institutions
of which it was the parent. Thursday was, how-
ever, we believe, the first time that the existence
of such institutions was fbrmally acknowledged
in Parliament, and certainly the first time they
were thought worthy of a proximate Premier'
approbation.
We remember that in their origin Mechanics
Institutions were opposed by the Clergy, and a
high dignitary of the Church attacked the found-
ers of them for giving instruction in science, in-
dependent of religion. They were obliged to
defend themselves ; but the leader of the Tories,
in his place in Parliament, has now avowed and
defended their doctrines. Not only at Tam-
worth, but in the House of Commons, Sir RO-
BERT PEEL has declared that knowledge makes
men better citizens and more religious men ;
that it promotes Christianity as well as morality.
To Dr. BIRKBECK, who, at the commencement
of his benevolent labours, was exposed to much
obloquy from the friends of priestcraft ; to Sir
BENJAMIN HEYWOOD, who followed in Dr.
BIRKBECK'S track ; and to the many other able
and philanthropic men, who have established or
supported Mechanics' Institutions, Schools Of
Arts, and Literary Societies, throughout the em-
pire, the present testimony of Sir ROBERT PEEL
in favour of their labours is a consolation and
reward. But though they may be delighted
with having so illustrious a convert, and
though we record his sentiments with much
satisfaction, as a striking proof of the general
progress, still we cannot admit that the tardy
conversion of the Right Hon. Baronet is an
honour to himself, or is the slightest indication
that the Tories, as a party, are not still far in
the rear of society. Sir ROBERT PEEL has only
reached that point in 1841, on which Lord
BROUGHAM was firmly seated, and from which
he has never descended, in 1820.
Sir ROBERT PEEL, however, is far in advance
of his friends. His heavy tail, including the
rabble of the priesthood throughout the land,
keeps him down. In the House he finds no Or
port fromilis party, and out of the House he is
bitterly attacked. His speech on Thursday, which
will find an echo in every enlightened mind °tit
of Parliament, and which was loudly applauded
by the Whigs and Liberals, did not elicit a single
cheer from the Tories. His Noble Friend,
Lord STANLEY, and his Right Hon. Friend, Sir
JAMES GRAHAM, looked at him with amazenieu,t,
and vexation, as it the letterS of " CATHouctls
in the Times, were their joint production. The
band of Tory claquers, which usually bray forth
their vociferous applause at almost every son'
tence uttered by the Right Hon. Baronet, were
.
quite dumb, as if Mr. GLADSTONE, who must
have thought that Sir ROBERT was speaking
treason against the Church, rather than Mr;
HoLmEs, were their fugleman. The great gild
mighty Thunderer frowns on him, and permits
his clerical subs to usurp his thunder, and hurl
their bolts at Sir ROBERT from the foot 01,
his throne. Far, therefore, as he is in the rear
of society, he is prodigiously in advance of his
tail; and as parties, like fishes, are guided and
impelled by their tails, he would be unable, were
he in office, to act on the sentiments which only
the Liberals in the House admired.

It must have been satisfactory also to them t°
have Sir R. PEEL'S approbation tacitly given t°
their efforts to extend education, to promote the
success of literary institutions to which they
have contributed, and to provide places of re-
creation for the inhabitants of towns, the plan 0I
a Liberal (Mr. SLANEY), and which a Liberal-
(Mr. STItUTT) has been the first to carry into ef-
fect. To all but the priests, who assert that
knowlege is valueless, even for this life, and
that on Faith alone must men rely, and to
all but his own friends and followers, whose
strength as a political party depends on pre-
serving the people in ignorance and the pnwer
of the priesthood intact, Sir R. PEEL'S fiPeec'u
has given unalloyed pleasure.

We published in our Evening Edition yester-
day, exclusively, an elaborate and valuable Re-
port of the Chamber of Commerce of Manches-
ter, by which that body has added much to tile,
many useful services it had previously rendered
the public. It contains, in a condensed form, t'
vast mass of information relative to our import
duties, aid we can do nothing better than re"
commend it to the perusal of the public.

Wel
Madrid journals of the 3rd inst. have reached
us. The question of the Regency is likelY to
occupy the early attention of the Cortes. (-)11
all sides great indisposition is evinced to the e"
trusting ESPARTERO with the sole Regency—the
now darling object of all his ambition. Tile
Treasury is empty and the Ministry at logger-
heads. On the Bourse the Fives were on the 3"
at 281 for cash.

ine •
We have received the whole of the
Journals of Wednesday. In the Chamber of
Peers on Tuesday the Prince of MosKowA, s°ll
of Marshal NEY, made some severe remarks
upon the observations of Count MOLE relative t°
the execution of his father in 1815. It was cer—
tainly most unwise on the part of Count 310$ t°
have called the attention of the Chamber to such
T
a subject. That Marshal NEY was basely-
cruelly murdered, is now universally admitted
by the ablest jurisconsults of Europe. No"c
Count MOLE was one of the judges who preside
at the mock. trial of the gallant Marshal, it is 35
indecent as it is impolitic to find him cheelci'v°.
the current of the filial piety of the noble tic;
scendant' of the illustrious victim of Bounl3°A
vindictiveness. That Count MOLE was influenc.e-
by honest and conscientious individual convl;
tions •in pronouncing sentence of death I.lP°
Marshal NET, we do not dispute for an instant:
but surely time enough has elapsed to corree:'
this fatal error of judgment. From the h 1
.1
personal character of Count MOLE, we esPeact-,
that he would have been one of the first
bers of the Peerage to express deep sorrow
ae_
for
an event which France has never ceased tos c
plore, and that any motion for reversing the
tence pronounced upon the illustrious Mar
an
would have had his hearty concurrence:
udicial
would have been some reparation fbr the
murder of one of the bravest soldiers to wily'
France ever gave birth. • upon
The Firman of the *SULTAN conferring r
halis
MEHEMET ALI the hereditary Pac st as
Egypt, has not excited so lively an intere
Tit
we expected in the political circles of I:atriilse.oll;t
following article from the Quotidienne Is
pointed of any written upon the subject :--pacha of
The. protection of France had been promised totli
Egypt, and millions bad been expended with that e 1
W.
exchange what has Alehemet Ali obtained ? In n.O blies,
what character of sovereignty, and if we even
e 1118 here
to feudal rights, what are the relations between
The here-
and his vassal? These relations are all set aside.,
of primo-
ditary government is granted, and it is not by . ris directed
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