The Sun.
London, England, 1847-02-03 00:00:00

POOR-LAW.

The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition frcns
Rye union against the Poor Removal Bill, the petitioners
stating that it was both expensive and inconvenient.
they believed that the effect of this Bill would b-, that
i t would induce landlords to pull down c.)ttages, and
t. bus large numbers of persops would be crowded into
t. be cottage s ihat remained, and tench immorality
.ust of necessity_ arise. He was disposed to move for
a select committee cn this subject ; but he saw tha( a
C( ►mmittee had been moved for in another place.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said there was no ob-
jet tion to the select committ, e.
The Duke of RICHMOND was glad to hear it.
DRAINAGE OF LANDS.

The NOBLE DUKE said that two years ago a Select
:mmittee had been appointed for considering the
su 'oject of the drainage of lands, and it was supposed
th at this drainage was not to be compulsory on the
la, ndlords, and that it referred to Ireland more than to
,gland; but that was a mistake in both instances, for
it was actually more for England than Ireland, and the
BI '1 did not at all consider the consent of the land
for ds. From having a cold, he presumed he was
last night misunderstood, for he was represented
as a eying that he was (1, sirous of reducing the
em 'et of the law of entail, whereas precisely the con-
tra ry was the case. He should move for the reappoint-
ment of the same Select Committee, with the addition
of I. t- :rd Langdale, who bad paid much attention to the
subj: 34 t.
Is Jr. i BROUGHAM hoped his Noble Friend would
urgt, ti to subject of entail on the Committee.
The Duke of RICHMOND would certainly make
that or le of the earliest subjects.
Th e Committee was granted.
DIS' rILLATION OF SPIRITS FEW' SUGAR.
Lord ' STANLEY presented petitions from the distil-
lers of the county of Wicklow, and other places, where
the pro posed measures of the Government had created
much a farm, as it was believed that distillation from
sugar u nuld materially affect the interests of the estab-
lishmen is in Ireland. Unless the measure were free
from th e defects which it presented at present, he did
not apprehend any great good would arise from it. If,
hovveve r, it operated whether for good or harm, it must
materia. I.ly affect the British and colonial produceis,
and thot le interested in breweries and distilleries. He
bad no wish to prolong the discussion of the question
at preset tt, but he rose only to express a hope tnat the
Measure would not be proposed as a permanent one,
without the fullest consideration, and all parties having
an oppe tunity of fully stating their case, and having it
°onside tnd by their Lordships. There was one point to
Which Isla wished at present to call the attention of tee
Noble ?L ord, the President of the Board of Trade. It was
in refer x ,nce to the Act of last session, by which the duty
on sugv,ii raised in the colonies was reduced to 14s. per
erns, at that on foreign sugar fixed at 21s. This was
la cliff( :rential duty of 75., which was gradually,
year 1 )3, year, to be reduced until 1831, when
they were to become equal. If sugar was
intro& teed into use in breweries and; distilleries now, it
Would be principally foreign that would be employed.
Now, i f sugar at 21s. a cwt. could now be employed in
these ve, arks and compete with malt, what would
be the effect in 1851, when the duty was
equalise( 1 ? Would it not give the grower
of foreig n sugar a great advantage over the home pro-
ducer. This was a matter to which he earnestly called
the cons ideration of the Noble Lord the President of
the Bot ird of Trade. He would not say what
course should be adopted, but he submitted
that nca measure of a permanent nature should
be agrcte d to, unless they were satisfied that the
various i nterests concerned were fully consulted and con-
sidered.. They might adopt one of the two following
courses : they might alter the scale of duty of last year,
10 as t o keep the 21s. duty permanent, or they
might IT duce the duty on malt, year by year, till such
time as t. he two duties were equals-ed. He would con-
clude by asking the Noble Lord, the President of the
Board of Trade, whether he had any objection to pro-
duce the report of the Commissioners appointed to in-
tquire intc • the employment of sugar in breweries and
distilleric s.
The Ea .rl of CLARENDON said he would state in a
day or twt whether the report could be produced without
inconvenience to the proceedings of the Government.
With respect to the measures proposed, he assured the
Noble LI ird that nothing would be done without full
considert.it ion of all interests concerned.
IRISH POOR-LAWS.
Lord F;ROUGHAM rose to complain of what had
been reps irted of him the previous night, in the state-
ment he : had made respecting the poor-laws in Ireland.
The newspaper press were generally very ac-
curate in their reports, but, at the pre-
sent time, when so much feverish anxiety prevailed
in Ireland repecting the proceedings of their Lordships,
it was right that the most accurate accounts should be
published. In the present instance words had been
attributed to him which he had never spoken.—(Hear.)
In presenting the petition from Liverpool he c irefully
abstained from giving any opinion on the matter to
which it had reference. What he said was that a

FONSitioll bad been made tLat the support of such
immigran';s should fall on Irish mortgagees. Whether
it fell on t he Irish landlord or not was an entirely dif-
ferent qui !stion, on which he avoided, as he bad said,
riving any opinion, because if they were to
throw the expense entirely on mortgagees it would be
Only a ta: K. upon the landlords in the name of the mort-
gagees.

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BiTCE : WHEAT, &c., IMPORTATION BILL.
Messes gers from the Commons brought up this Bill,
which, on the moticn of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE,
Was read a first time.
POOR-LAW (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord f;ITANLEY wished to ask a question of the
Noble M arquis (the Marquis of Lansdowne) with refe-
rence b ) tke Poor-law Commission. Several Bills
had beela recently introduced into the other House of
Pathan) ent, which would, no doubt, give increased
Power Lo the Poor-law Commissioners, who were the
principal machinery in carrying out the Irish Poor-law
411. Pie. therefore, thought that the whole, subject of
the pomr-law settlement of this country and of Ireland
should he brought under the review of their Lordships.
Ile also understood that the Poor. law Commission was
about to be re-modelled. He, therefore, wished
to kno w whether it was the intention of the Go-
.verneaP nt to re-model that Commission, whether the
Irish Poor-law Commission would be independent of the
English one,: and whether the way in which this re-
Modelling was proposed to take place would be laid
before their Lordships before the Bill which would
confer tb ose increased powers on the Commission.
to '11::‘, Miarq uis of LANSDOWNE was understood
thatit was the intention of the Go
,vernatee t to remodel the Poor-law Com mission.
wit he c.Duld not state then whether the management of
the poe r-laws of both countries would be placed
under the control of ene* Commissioner. The
Bill to which the Noble Lord referred was not
of a tei nporary, but of a permanent nature. There was
not the) same urgent necessity for the passing of the
measure as of others. It would be before their Lord-
ships at the earliest possible period.
The conversation then dropped.
EDUCATION.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, on Friday he
should lay before their Lordships a minute adopted by
the Committee of the Privy Council, and on that
day he would state certain alterations and additions
which the Committee had suggested for the purpose of
expending the funds voted by Parliament for the purpose
of national education.

The NOBLE MARQUIS laid on the table a copy of the
correspondence which had taken place between this
country mid Austria, Russia, Prussia, and Switz.r-
and, in 1845. Also a copy of the treaty concluded
between this country and the King of the Sandwich
Islands, which, he was happy to state, had been made on
the best possible terms.—(Laughter.)
INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid upon the table
of the House the concession of the King of Saxony to
the treaty of international copyright, concluded between
her Britannic Majesty and the King of Prussia in the
year 1846.

their Lordships then adjourned till Thursday next.

HO US. OF COMMONS, Feb. 2.
The SPEARED took the Chair a few minutes before
Four o'clock.

SECOND READINGS.
The following Bills were read a second time:
Wolverhampton, and Stour Valley Rail-
way (No. 1) (Smeth wick Deviation).
General Terminus and Glasgow Harbour Railway
Branches.
Liskeard and Caralon Railway.
Lynn and Ely, Ely and Huntingdon, and Lynn and
Dereham Railways Amalgamation.
Norfolk Railway (Yarmouth Extension, &c.)
Shropshire Union Railways and Cana (Lease to the
London and North-Western Railway Company).
LYNN AND NORWICH BRANCH RAIL WAY
BILL.
The report of the Standing Orders' Committee was
brought up. The standing orders had been complied
with.
GLASGOW AND GREENOCK (CALEDONIAN)