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themselves. At the time the Noble Lord made
his proposal there was no alarm in the money
market. It was only apprehorded. But what
was the situation of the commercial interest
at the time this measure is brought rward. was it not
notorious that the Noble Lord at the head of the Go•
vernment was daily in communication with the great
commercial interests of Liverpool, Glasgow, and Lon•
don ? Had not every means been taken ;o restore con-
fidence, but without success ? Were not the best possible
hills the mercantile world could produce of no avail
on account of enormous discounts charged for
cash P and yet, in this deplorable state of
things the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of
the Exchequer was about to throw another anditional
burden upon the Batik, and by what arguments was
this proposal snpported? Why, by precisely the same
as those by which the Noble Lord had successfully
resisted a similar proposal a few weeks ago.
There was nothing in this measure to distinguish it from
the one introduced by the Noble Lord a short time ago,
except the greater danger which they would now incur
in carrying out its principles ; and then, again, these
companies would ,be unable to borrow maney at a rate
of interest which they would be able to pay. The
Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer
opposed the measure of the Neble Lord, on the ground
that the Government should not become money-lenders.
But were not the circumstances now the same as they
were at the time that measure was introduced ? And
what a flaming sword was wielded against it by the
lion. Gentleman, who said that it would not employ the
weak and disabled, but the able bodied. He said, "We
want relief for the poor and the aged, for women and
children, as well us for the able-bodied." Those were
the parties, he said, whom they could not benefit by
such means as those which the Noble Lord sought. it
was also urged by everybody who spoke on the same side
as he (Mr. Roebuck) did, that the state of the country,
at the time could not have been assisted by such a pro-
position. The Government said they had left nothing
undone to provide employment for the indigent poor ;
but entertaining that argument, how could they
now come forward with this extraordinary
measure ? Was there ever so pitiful an attempt ?
he could not call it an endeavour, for no phrase in the
English language could supply him with a word which
could express his feelings, without trespassing on the
corutesies of the House, and which, would adequately
enable him to describe the plan of the Right
Honourable Gentleman. The Government proposed
to lend 620,0001. to Ireland, after they had ex-
pended something like 10,000,0001., and when they
had already deranged, not only the social condition of
Ireland, but the social and monetary system of England
by their unwise proceedings. But be assured the people
would not any longer suffer such proceedings. When they
saw hundreds of persons swept away, families destoyed,
situations well and honourably tilled up annihilated, and the
whole mercantile world in a commotion, and, in the
words of a French orator, with hideous bankruptcy
knocking at their doors, were they to see the Chancellor
of the Exchequer come to the House with a smiling face
again to demand money—money.—(Hear.) It might be
a pitiful sum compared with their previous lavish expen-
diture, but the people would not bear it. He appealed to
every gentleman in the House —if they wished
to consult consistency, which was not a matter of much
importance, it would seem, at the present period—to
support him in his present amendment. He would
ask the Hon. Members who voted in the majority
against the Bill of the Noble Lord opposite to join him
in carrying a resolution, that the other orders of the
day be then read ; if they did so, and if the obtained a
majority he thought they would bear no more
of this scheme.—(Hear, hear) The Chan-
cellor would get a very significant hint not
to proceed further with it.—(flear, hear) lle felt that
the people of England would read a lesson to her Ma-
jesty's Ministers ; they would look rather angry, that
schemes like these were day after day brought
down, founded on no principle, and without even
an appeal to the country placed upon the
table of the House, rather to occupy their time
than anything else. He would move that the other
orders of the day be now read.—(Hear. hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that he would not dispute the abstract right of the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman to take the course which he
had thought proper to take upon the present
occasion, but he believed it to be an irregular
one, and one which would in future set a bad
precedent for others to follow. He believed that the
more correct course would have been to go into Corn •
mitten, when it would have been his duty to make a
statement as soon as the Speaker left the chair with re-
ference to this grant. He hoped that the
House would agree to go at once into Corn-
mittee—(Hear, hear)—and then in accordance 'with
the forms which had been established in that House,
he should avail himself of that opportunity of making
such a statement as the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
would be well able to answer. At present he declined
saying anything further, until the House had resolved
itself into Committee.
The gallery was then cleared for a division.
The House having divided, there appeared-
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For the amendment
203
Against it
Majority
The amendment was consequently negatived.
(LEFT SITTING.)

RAUAWAV SHARE M ARKE TS.
1.1,17.ERP00L, Arm, 23.
STocKlxcits.N6z.—The sales are—Birmingham and Dud-
ley, 5 p.—Birmingham and Oxford, 7% p.—Chester and
Birkenhead, 441/4—Eastern Counties, York Extension, 11,
slis.—Ea3t Lancashire (late B. and P.), 116 dis.—Ditto, New
(scrip), par—Edinburgh and Glasgow, Quarters,l7l,6 —Liver
pool, Crosby, and Southport, 1 p.—London and North-
Western, 171.1.—London, Manchester, and Birmingham,
Quarters (C), 4 p.—London, Brighton, and South Coast,
511,4—Manchester and Leeds, Fifths, 4% p.—Ditto, 321.
Shares (late Extensions), 1,6 p.—Ditto, Fifths (late West
Riding Union), 14 p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincoln.
shire, Eighths, 21/2 dis.—Manchester and Southampton, 114
dis,—Midland Stock, 115—Ditto, New, 2 p.—Newcastle and
Herwick, New, I% p.—North Staffordshire, I'A p.—North-
Western, 2 dis.--Preston and Wyre, Halves (A). 3% p.—
Shrewsbury and Hereford, 1% dis.—Shrewsbury and Chester
(late N.W.M.), New, 214 p.—Shrewsbury and Birmingham
(B), 1/2 dis.—SouthEastern, 3614—Ditto, New, No. 4, ls.
3d. dis.

MANCHESTER, AraiL 29.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The sales are—Ambergate, Notting-
ham, and Boston, 11/1 dis.—Birmingham and Oxford Junc-
tion, 7% p.—Eastern Counties, York Extension, 114 dis.—
East Lancashire (late 13. and P.), New, I%—Ditto, New
(scrip), 1/B dis.—East Lincolnshire, I%—Fleetwood, Preston,
and West Riding Junction, 1% dis.—Leeds and Thirsk,
51/2 dis.—Ditto, Preferentials, 1,4 p.—Leeds, Dewsbury, and
Manchester, par—Ditto, Branches, Halves, 1 dis.—London
and North-Western, New, 91/2 p.—Ely and Huntingdon,
New, par—Manchester and Leeds, Halves (H. and S.), IA
p.—Ditto, 32/. Shares (late Extension), 5-16 p.—Ditto,
Fifths (late West Riding Union), 14 p.—North Stafford-
shire, 9-16—Oldham Alliance, 1‘ dis.—Preston and Wyre,
Halves (A), 3% p. —Shropshire Union, 1N —South-Eastern
and Dover, 36—Ditto, No. 4, 3-16 dis.
LEEDS, Aram 29.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The sales are—Ambergate, Notting-
ham, and Boston, 1 !,4 dis.—East Lancashire, New, dis.
—Ditto, New Scrip, ls. dis.—East and West Yorkshire,
16s. dis.—East Lincolnshire, 1%, p.—Great Northern, IL/4 dis.
—Leeds and Bradford, 421 A p.—Leeds and Thirsk, 51/2 dis.
—Ditto, Preference, 7s. p.—London, Brighton, and South
Coast, Fifteenths, 2s. p.—Malton and Dritlield Junction,
10s. dis.—Manchester and Leeds, Halves (late llud. and
Sheff.), 103. p.—Ditto, 321. Shares (late Extensions), 10s.
6d. p.—Ditto, West Riding Union, 9s. n. p.—Midland, Pre-
ference, 13A p.— Newcastle and Berwick, New, 13A p.—
North British, Thirds, 1.14 p.—Ditto, Quarters (late Carlisle
Branch), 15s. p.—Ditto, Extension (scrip), 7s. p.—North
Staffordshire, 325. p.—Northern Counties Union, n.
—North-Western, 30s. dis.
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE, ArrilL 29.
STOCK EXCHANGE.—The sales are—Caledonian, New, lls.
6d. dis.—Eastern Counties, York Extension, l dis.—New-
castle and Berwick, 5 p.—Ditto (North Shields Purchase),
2934—North British, 31.
SHEFFIELD, Arm 29.
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STOCK ExcoANGE.-The sales are-East Lincolnshire, 11,4
p.-Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire (Sheffield and
Lincoln), 314 dis.-North Staffordshire, 114 p.-North-
Western, 395. c. dis.
EDINBURGH, Arum 28.
STOCK ExcaiwoE..-The sales are-Ayr and Galloway,
395. 6d.-Caledonian,- New, 375. 61-Dundee and Northern
Junction, 305.-East Lothian Central, 395. 6d.-Edinburgh,
Leith, and Granton, Quarters, 11s.-Edinburgh and North-
ern, 17%-Ditto, New, 565. 6d.-DittO, Newport, 6%-Ditto,
New, 355.-Edinburgh and Perth, 395.-Ditto, Halves, 12s.
3d.-Great Northern, 525.-North British, Quarters, 825.-
Ditto, New Quarters- (scrip);' 195.-Ditto, Thirds, 485.-
Scottizh `;entra:, 24ti-East 3w.
GLASGOW, Amur. 28.
STOCI, ,3ta.rtka:.-The sales arc-Caledonian, New, 375.
6d -East Ldian, 9d.-East Lothian Central, 395. 6d. -
Edinburgh and Glasgow, 701.-Edinburgh and Perth (New
Co.), 393.-Ditto, Halves, 125.-Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and
Ayr, 581.-Ditto, Halves, No. 2, 61. Is.-Glas,,,w, Du_ .
and Carlisle, 51.-Glasgow and Greenock, 15 -Kilmarnock
and Avr Direct, 275. 6d.-Manchester and Southampton, 16s.
-North British, Thirds, 48s. 6d.-Ditto New Quarters (scrip),
18s. 6d.-Paisley, Barrhead, and Ilurlet, 525. 6d.-York and
Newcastle,
1314-Ditto, Preference, 6A-Glasgow and
Garnkirk, New,
391.

It has been announced in the City that a public
meeting of merchants, manufacturers, and others will be held
at an early day to consider the present monetary condition
of the country and the operation of the Bank Charter Bill.
Late arrivals from the United States bring intel-
ligence of the death of Mrs. Davis, of Boston, mother of Mrs.
Bancroft, the wife of the American Minister,

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