The Sun.
London, England, 1840-06-02 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Jtrivr 1.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his scat on the Woolsack
at Five o'Cluck
The Lidemnitv Bill was brought in and read a first time.
The Bishop of GLOUCESTER presented a petition
in favour of Church Extension,
The Duke of BUCCL EUCH presented a petition in
favour of Medical R, form.
The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition from Perth,
praying for the separation of Glut-eh and State : also a pc.
tition from Dundee, against Church Extension t also yeti.
tions from Sunderland, and fr m places in Sumersutahire,
and from the town of Leicester, signed by 8,000 inhabi-
tants, praying for the total and immediate repeal of the
Corn-laws; also, petitions from places in Somersctshire,
aeeinst Church-ra.es ; and petitions from Devon and Sun-
derland, for the abolition of Church-rates, and the release
of John Thorogood.
'I t e Bishop .if EXETER gave notice that on Tuesday,
the 16. h inst., he should move for certain Returns relative
to Emigration to New South Wales.
Lord HOLLAND presented petitions against any grants
for Church Extension.
The Earl of WINC FUSE A presented a petition
front the Protestant Association against any further grant
to tie College of Maynoeth.
The B sh le of DURHAM presented petitions from
the derey of his diocese, against the F.,eelestastical Reve-
nu, s Brit
The Duke of RUTLAND presented a petition from
Leicestet in favour of Church Extension.
file Earl of ROSEBERY presented petitions against
Nor-in rusioii.
Tire Marquis of BR E A DALBA NE presented a pet'.
tion from Scotland against tne Earl of Aberdeen's
Bill for regulitiine the Zaire of' the Church of Scotland.
The N We Marquis said their Lordships were already
aware that the General Assembly had declared against
that measure, and he Was informed that the great ma-
jority, not only of the clergy, but the people of Scotland,
acre dr.cidedle oppeeed ro it.
Tne Earl of HA DDINGTON said the information he
bad recces, d did not tally wi•h that of the Noble Mar-
quis, for h.. w .a informed the Bill was generally popular.
Lord BROUGHAM said, that not having been present
%she!' the Hilt of the N ,ble Earl was introduced, he should
at present abstain from saying anything about it. Whether
the people of Scotland thought with the petitioners
in their ebjections to this Bill or trot he would not stop now
to inquire or state, but of one thing he maintained the opi-
nions he held the last time he had the honour of addressing
their Lordships on this subject, and that was that
the opinions of the people of Scotland did not
go along with those who had placed themselves in
resistance to the 14w of the lend —( Hear, bear.) That
law had been declared by the highest authority in the law
--by their Lordships in their judicial capacity, and it there
wet e any part ca in resistance to the Isae he said it was
not the people of Scotland, but those mi,guided indivi-
duals, or misguided bodice, who had thought fit to
take that course—( Deer, hear, hear)—and when he
was told of the collisions and conflicts on that subject,
what were those conflicts and those collisions? They were
such as there would ever be in every arse where a deci-
sion had been pronounced by the Legislature, namely, the
conflict and collisions between that tribunal and the party
against whom that tribunal pronounced judgment.
Whether that party was an humble individual, or a power-
ful body—whether an individual or a body corporate—
and whether a mealy body corporate, ecclesiastical
or lay. or the most powerful body in the empire,
that party must be considered as the party in a
suit in which the decision was given against them
by a competent authority —( Hear, hear ) It could not
be denied that there existed greet differences of opinion
upon other questions of Church Government in that part
01 the empire, although the great body of the people
would not sanction the proceedings of those who were
running counter to the laws.—( Hear. hear.) Fur his part,
before any new laws were introduced in reference to this
subject, he should wish to know that proper means
had been taken in the proper quarter to secure obedience
to the law.—( Haar, hear )
The E-r 1 of ZE'TLA ND presented a petition from a
place in Scotland, fraying for a dissolution of the con-
nection between Church arad State in that country.
The Earl of CHARLEVILLE presented a petition
from a place in the crusty of Limerick against the present
system of National Education in Ireland.
POOR LAWS (IRELAND.)
The Earl of CHARLEVILLE wished to ask the
Noble 'Marquis opposite (the Marquis of Normanby) if
he would have any orrjection to lay on the table of
the House additional papers relating to the ap-
pointment of Prior-law Commissioners in Ireland,
and c.pecially to the case of Dr. Phelan. He thought
that the ieform.eion which /hose pap-re might afford w S
desirable, as his Noble Friend the Marquis of Westmeath
homier' to rat Ike a motion on the subject.
The. Marquis of NORM A NBY said that whenever
the Noble M irquis, (the Marquis of Westmeath.)
made a motiori on the subject, he would be
ready to give every explanation in his power. With re.
gard to the appointment of Dr. Phelan, he believed that
all the papers relating to it had already been laid before
the House.
Thu o:arquis of LONDONDERRY wished to
ask the Noble Marquis, it he had any inform-
ation to give the lioege relative to the appointment
of a gentleman in the South of Leland of the name of
H •ndeock, to the office of a Commissioner. That gentle-
man had been for many years a violent political agitator,
and white a stipendiary M.gistrate he had violently knocked
down a gentleman, for which he had afterwards been
.lyiged to crake en apo-ouy.
The Marquis of NORM ANBY could only any that Mr.
ilandcock had been appointed by the prevent
Sion witnout airy previous commurrication with him on the
aubj cr.
The Marquis of ;aONDONDERRY asked was the
Noble Mei quis aware of Mr. H,recie elf's has ng
knuckled down to the Governmer r ?—( Much laughter. )
The Marquis of NORM ANB Y kn w nothing about it.
Lord E LENBORO UG H thought they were tread-
ing on darigeroue ground. Trey had nothing tr do with
:he previrma chericter of either Dr. Phelan or Mr. Handre.ek,
It was art interfereirce wi h the re-poveibilly of the ,Mi-
nister of the Crown. If either rsf these pr rsons miscon •
ducted themselves in the situation to ehich they had been
appointed, it would be an eggreveted charge against the Gr -
%eminent. He had ventured to throw out there suggestions,
because he wee sure, practically, it would be of the roost
dangerous consequeece to the public servire.
Atter a few words inn explanation from the Earl of
Citeeoevlets. and the Duke of WELLINGTON,
Tne alerquis of NO rt.li ANB if said that he had told
the
Commissioners that the enactment implied that they
should keep a record of their proceedings. The corre-
spondence in question was not included in their minutes,
but they happened to have copies of them, and bring
anxious to afford the House every information in their
power, they had furnished a copy of that correspondence,
and when their Lordships had read the papers he thought
t'ley would be perfectly satisfied.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said that if the Act of
Parliament required them to keep a record of all their
transactions in order to crab c either House of Parliament
to trace their proceedings to the foundation, its erovisi,ms
could not be considered as complied with if they merely
kept a record of their proceedings of administration and
not of their corresoondence.
PRINTED PAPERS.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH postponed the motion of
which he had given notice relating to the Printed Papers
until after Whitsuntide.
A Message from the Commons brought up certain Bills
and returned certain other Bills with arnendmt•nte, which—
On the motion of the Marquis of NORM ANB Y were
ordered to be printed and taken into consideration to-
morrow
The Marquis of NOR VI A NBY presented certain pa-
pers from the Poor-law Commissioners.
BIRMINGHAM RIOTS.
The Earl of WARWICK gave notice that on the first
vacant day after Whitsuntide he should move that the re
port of Mr. Dudes, .nd a copy of the evidence taken before
that gentlemen relative to the Birmingham riots, be laid
before the House.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition
from North Shield , praying fur the abolition of Church.
rates.
The Dike of SUTHERLAND presented a petition
from the Staffordshire Potter es agenist the employment of
children in sweeping chimneys.
The Bishop of NORWICH presented two petitions,
praying fur Church Extension.
The Earl of STANHOPE presented a petition, pray-
ing for a relaxation of the insprisenneent of Mr. F.
O'Connor; else petitions against the contraband opium
trade with China.
On the motion of the Earl of ROSEBERY, the Feu.
ing Estates (Scotlano) Bill, was read a thud time and
passed.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE BILL.
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eaters, and to pti riwn the monopoly of th.• landed aristocracy -i. the Order of the Day IV; go-ing into Coueinittee on in the judgment of others Tnercfore-it Woliid Pr judge
and parsons. Ile has again visaed saxinurelhain, au.
..we learn this Bel being r. ad, a Court of Appeal to GC coneittiteil altogethelf ° If the
from inquiries made on the spot, that th•t. part ot the country Lord BR 0 (JG HA NI rose and said, that not having who never heard causes in their original state,.
,t.
ittitigother
is being effectually roused on the question.— Suffille Chronicle. been present at the second read tog of the Bid, he was de Court were to be constituted
g!
EFFECT OF THE CON. f,i -L A W D Ell A T E.— sirous of stating what course he meant to take on this sub- Courts even partially, then it could not hby the Judoldes '-'
its sf.,the:l
The [louse of Commons. not more than twelve months ago, i jest. He trusted he would not be accused of p. rtinacious constantly, but must accommoiatiitielft„the.etiegs,-.fl000c"
drove t„, working classes from their doers, and refused to en- . adherence to his own opinions, it he staled that haviitg, i,, C•iurts. When the Judicia ; Committee of tile Privy' 'IA. he le
terrain their respectful petition for an inquiry- into their suffer- I consequence of the introduction of the Bill by his Noble was originally established
Cr had hoped tha.t, it './0731e-r
Otto'
inns. The same 11,nee has now driven off the middle classes, I Friend, giveti it as became hitn, the great at attentioli, been the lounJation of a olllt of Appehl, for wag no,
and refused all inqiiiry into the operation of ?II . obnoxious Corn- an : e.canisidered the grounds of his former opinion— poses as well as those originally proposed, and it he ,he dit'
laws, which are fad ruining all the bests interests of the country.
w , - •e
Neither of these classes will be disi•osed again to five th . Ill.• grounds he would not say, of the opposition he I. ss sanguine in tliat hr,pe, it was because he 5" lee'
hornets' nest with the same chalice of had treatment. Buti made to any former nieasure of tee. kind, but the ficulty there was ill inducing their Lordships to trt-,°g(l3'
they will be driven to make common cause with each other doubts he had meltable,' of the necessity of any large on die Appellate Jurisdiction. If the Court was A n„flato
anti perhaps take measures to root it out utter.y.— Geed.; measure, such hie that of the Noble Lord—having r cull- erred he entertained greet lilacs the Court of P.Pro,ould
Times.
siderAl those, he still adhered to tne ',pluton he had then Jurisdiction would be found capable of doing 3" th_at,t to be,
The present promises to he a year most inemor- formed and still ntlint.itied, that there was no absolute be rt gamed from such a Court, That Court ought hi°,
able for its productivenes-, whether in the animal or vegetable neces.ity for increasiug the judicial powers of the Court of presided over by the Head of the Law, who )17., Chie!
kingdom, say log nothirg of the numerous instances we have Chat,c..ry. He anuid call the attention of the [-louse to the culifi fence of the profession—he ought to be :',,eastlft- - lately had to record of the stepping forth in dims and trios of the facts of the case. The real question was, whether Judge in that Court, and he believed that some rfrl of A
those little ‘• responsibdittes," who well holp riaterially to ~ii.n the increase ot busintss in the Court of Cha, eery and in would be devised to enable him to gcti. by the
tthe approacling census It is a nutter of universal remark, the Court of Exchequer was of suchl a nature as to de- great Part of the duty he now perforioe% hint
I.at a more prolific lambing season has never been known. and mand a large increase of the judicial force neecs,,ary to appointment of an additional Judge, so as manicto , Lords,
the infectiou appea. s ,o have reached el the t ibbies (we mean, of
cou,rse, the four-footed species.) We have it from undoubted di%charge that business. Tne two main soutces from to preside.. not only at Appeals in the flouse,
.°1 Lords,
course
se hich the conclusion was to be drawn were, thou amount but at the Privy C iuneil also. It was proposed Lysiow, jet.
authority, that at Kempsey, last week, a eat gave birth to Licht
kittens,
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of bills filed, and the amount of petitions presented. lie the Alv,,t,cr of the Rolls from his own Couit• f fate
all of which came unto the world hearty and vigoretts,
and,d with their amiable mother, would, doubtless, have been would State, from both these sources, what the increase had them look at the number of causes in that
g well" up to the present lime, had not seven of their been The insitiber of bills filed, on the average ot flue years
number been, years 11, 1833, they...,tio7tnterl to 65.2 ;in
_ICBI-40.;,,°,04;63inic
en, shortly alter their birth, mercilessly consigned to ending in 1754 was 1 698. Tile av,rage number ot p, ti- in 1835, to .isf 9 ; in
.1 ti.-36 _
At they 14c
•1 b • - ' / • C/ •• / - flout for the same number of years was 282, making alto- 1838, to 259 ;
a twig i miring pomt.— If oreesters arc trome e.and in 1,539,nt40620;2.ni S. 13t1h..
the went
We read in the Mort/bin- C bronicie of last gether a little less than 2,000. Now the average number come down
3londay, when speaking of Ireland', " 'fbe bill for her iota lion, 51(1)10isorrnb:::101,. 1;ttl,
of bulls for the five !ears ending in 1835, which was the time; and if atl.
t 0,,,
the ' ve[.er,. when
shut it
dishanchis-ment is in committee. lime furnace is being heated last period for which they had any !elm its, was 2 336, and Court was doefctihne no._s
toy preside al the Privy Council
to forge the chains to bind her, and perhaps the sword to cut the average number of rtiti9its was 1 271, makiiig a total the Master
be
any
1:- liup, and send
doubt that such a mode of procc"l
her th,wiz.,, By a strange coincidence with this concluding of 3,607, which teas less than double that of the other pc could their
Portion of the paragraph, the 6:h Dragoon Guards arrived in riod, b,•ing only in the or portion of about nine to five. 1833,toth2.?0buastitiesPof Ih.c,
Liverpool on the very same day on their way to imand i .
1,1 the four years ending iii 1819 the average num would er
orplettelitltye:;vtoiunlid,trislt the
thereCjourt. Itoli!estutatodrsc:3lo"l!.
be, of go th, r. t
bring y only go .
01-ther tribunal.
" What regimen, do these fine lookitig fellows beleing to?" Ella tiled was 2 310. which was nearly. equal to the num- Iton order to. it by appeal before some . work
said a Tory friend of ours to another gentleman of the same Instead of taking away the Judge, he ought
of his Court.
ber filid in 1835. The average number of cases in the
Political tenets. The answer was a strange one, but a mean_ • five years •
was
and rho number double tides, in order to keep up the business ming
in.* i ne, `• I sou -" he replied, ‘• they are the Parli , years ending in 1756 a 401, and average
When
hehe said that the business of that Court was co ,
ot 7/ Commissioners lee'arrying over the copy of Lord SZ: ieen;:, of cases in the five years ending in 1335. was 1,283- The
ha.. even as
Bid to Ire and." This was a joke, but it has an .r,inn,„ais average numberof
as 371 at the not, there could not be, the least vestige of Cosound of truth with it. Should that hateful eaearare _ Learned Friend (the Lord Chancellor) w
petitions, according to his Noble and down, be&sed not to be misunderstood. There wer
dow for possibly sayine that this was °sting
-pass,
was '
more parliamentary commissioners of the same stamp svill ',:lave first period. and 1,300 at the. other.
that the cumber itself; but they all knew thatat cliffs rent times there
at
to the
to follow • this advanced guard, and, perhaps, be all require dto I The LORD CHANCELLOR said_
fasniem with respect to Courts in Ireland ; for ins'atile.e'
cheek the volcano which is again heaving and thicalr i„.- s. in was 3,830 • ,
irous dirrTw`
t_>4. this ticattunt hv tinci‘raccd ttore was an engr
that unh:LiTy mint ry.--LityrpM eilitial.
I Leal LIWO IJIQ Li AM had been mistakbn in fallywing