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London, England, 1841-09-18 00:00:00

SECOND EDITION

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An HON. MEMBER on the Opposition benches, whose tof the bayonet. There was an example forafive years, and had
name we could not learn, said that the country would I tional country. It had been baptised in blood.lt was.
constitu- justly due to him (LyoertddJoonhennßotehsisrtegll.), wThhoathamdighheltdoorffitnceigfehrt
willingly extend its indulgence to the Right Hon. Baro- I begotten in violence and injustice. It had been perpe- thatle., ittnatdnid.
net, by granting the time for considering his measures 1 tuated at the expense of the tears and groans of the nEoetraboestehteheeetNeo,
Noble
et
Letoirtdh thathad theiteg;
epeeteepdl eh
reason why the present Geveretrient should neglect theirs.-
which he demanded, because it placed confidence in his i people ; and he (Mr. Cobden) prayed to God it . mighthisacidutr;:thil
(Loud cheers,) But the Noble Ldrd had proposed measures,
Administration. The new Ministry was, besides, sup- I not end in violence, which their conduct in refusing all of which the Bight Hdn. Brrotiet haddisepprstred, and having
ported by a large majority of that House. I discussion and all amelioration of existing evils, Was but refused to adopt them he now refused to propose any of his own
Mr. COBDEN was surprised to hear the Honourable too apt to provoke.-(Hear, hear.) in their plaee.-(Cheers.) If the Right Hon. Gentleman
Member allude to the majority which his party had ob- Lord SANDON said he should have thought that a would apply himself to the consideration of those measure% he
tamed. That was an attempt to justify their proceedings, 1 sense of prudence, if not of decency, would have deterred believed he he would come to the conclusion that some
commercial policy was taco vary,
but the
by a mere appeal to physical force. He believed that I the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down from charging
_changeh in
t Hondouurroble Gentleman refused discussion. Ile
Hon. Gentlemen in pursuing the course they had taken I that (the Ministerial) party with having obtained their Ri
asked for a su ply, and told them that they must
on that occasion were unconscious of the state of public majority by unfair means at the late elections.-(llear,
wait until next year before they could hope for any alteration
opinion. That was admitted upon all sides. It was ad- hear.) What they had seen in that House should have
in those lawn. And what was that alteration to be ? Why
matted be the great organ of the ;party opposite. The silenced the Hon. Gentleman upon that head. For his
the Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for Dorchester, in his
triumph at the late elections was not the triumph of prin- (Lord Sandon's) part lie believed that Hon. Members on address to his constituents, had said that he considered a fixed
ciple, it was the triumph of the purse.-(Cries of " Oh, his side had been chosen with remarkable
1 purity.- duty an impossibility, and that the only improvement that
oh," from the Ministerial benches.) He was only stating (Hear, hear, and Oh, oh.) Let them look to Lou- could be made in the present Coen.laws would be by improving
what had been admitted by their own organ of that morn- don, where two Conservatives had not been returned the system of taking the averages, so as to make theml moreh
ing. They were there by the force of their pockets, and through corruption.-(Hear, hear.) Let them look to stringent. 'f hat was thetnitthe only ad terationstitlhhelyeteerourgll,rdleo
not by the force of principle. He was not therefore stir- Liverpool, not carried by corruption. Let them look to faodr;erfeortoththeeGonteerinzaeno,f
tdapy;ar.eing
werec Now that scale
prised to find them ignorant of the real state of public the majorities they had obtained in the great towns of h
feeling Bribery lied Ceen resorted to at the late elections Lancashire, Yorkshire, and Middlesex-to the majorities had not nistifirdranly one of the groutals on which it had been
riginallyj introduced. It had not iedueed steadiness of price
to an Unprecedented extent, and lion. Members, he would in the English Counties, and he did think they would
P -it had not afforded effectual protection to the British
repeat, had gone to the hustings with their constituents in I admit that it was not to corruption these majorities were
farmer-it had not afforded security that the home
their pockets.-(Laughter from the Ministerial benches) owing.-(Hear, hear.) Let the Honourable Gen-
growth should be equal to the home consumption-those were
He believed it difficult to exaggerate the distress now tleman look next to the other side-let hint look
prevailing in the manufacturing districts. If that to Bridport-(Hear, hear,from the Ministerialbenches)-
th
-House was prorogued without taking the subject into to Shrewsbury, to Nottingham, and to various other
been taunted with being asked if they could maintain a fixed
its consideration, the responsibility should not rest with places • and,; in his (Lord Sandon's) opinion, prudence, duty. low what right hadi Hon. Gentlemen opposite to ask
t
those who represented real constituencies, and not pure if not 'decency, would prevent him from repeating his them to mhi,ntainHaeafixed h
eraurty) when theirnoth'onwencissehdeulbee clearer
clamed ones, but with those who were now in possession . observations on the subject. The Hon. Gentleman who man that
undor(a fixed duty there wend be anti xer! supply.
of the reins of Government. They had heard of the I had just sat down was very anxious to divest himself of I
The merchant would then be able to make his calculatiens.
distress in Salford and other places, and he (Mr. Cob- the awful responsibility hanging over him in
respect to
It
, _wastl, the sliding scale that was the cause of all the diver=
den) represented a borough which transcended all others manufacturing distress. Ha apprehended thatth e storm
,—(Cheers) A Witt ded had b-en said of what had
in the fearful sufferings of its inhabitants. One of every he had hiMself raised would lead to bloodshed, and he taints
five houses in Stockport was untenanted, and he could was anxious to throw the burden of the responsibility fallen from the Hon. Member from Stockport relative to the
state of the feelings of the working classes. Now nothing had
tell them, moreover, that one-half of the occupiers were its: had so largely contributed to create-(Cheers been said on that subject that night that had not been said
not paying rent. One half of the mills and manufac- from the Ministerial benches)-upon her Majesty's nii- months before. Every one hail said that when the question of the
tures were closed, and thousands of labourers, who sisters because they refused to eater upon the Corn-laws should be thoroughly understood by the people, if
would be considered a treasure in any other land, subject of the Corn-laws. If the language which some measures were not adopted to repeal or alter thentittline
and looked upon as its most valuable possession, the Honourable Member had used in the House peace. of the country
iwoulddtroh_teioeondan,,,Taetin,tanhdt yete night
g th ytiad h add a.
were wandering about seeking for employment that evening was to be taken as a specimen of that Gennaleemieanmreletu d a
net the s ieech of one come-Member, who hail
hut unable to obtain it. They were to have a delay of which he was accustomed to address to the peony e
live months before they considered the subject. Gee] in the North of England, it might well be said t. at
vs 'alddressed the House without adding one single observation to
what had been uttered previously, and who had even expressed
knew, however, whether he (Mr. Cobden) should have the people were under the guidance of those who were
himself as rejoicing that them was to be nit discussion. The
a constituency in five months if the tide of emigration calculated to mislead them. What had the Hon. Gentle-
Noble Lord had taunted them with participating in a gee so
and the growth of distress should progress in the same man said ? lie had said that the existing Corn-law had and iefamons system of bribery' He (Mr. Hawes) knew no-
proportion as of late years. He expected at the end of the been carried at the point of the bayonet.-(Cries of
thing of that personally.-(H e ar.) He repre
winter to find very few of the operatives whom he re- " No, no.") he Hon. Gentleman had said so, and it anted no frees
T
men-(Cheers)-and he had never in his elections incurred
presented in the streets of Stockport. If the discus- was not until the negative had been put three times one farthing of expense that he should be ashamed to state in
sion were to be postponed, he wished to place on the from his (Lord San-lon's) side of the House that the his place in that House. -( Loui cheers.) He admitted that
right shoulders the responsibility and the consequences, Hon Gentleman had reluctantly admitted that he in many places gross and shameful bribery had taken place,
and he would sa that all those who had been guilty of it hal
Corn-
particularly the consequences to the labouring popula- did not intend to allude to the present
done much to shake the confidence of the people in that House,
non. Hon. Gentlemeit opposite had fraternised with law-(rear)-not to the Corn-law which had
and to undermine the foundations of the Constitution.-(Loud
the working classes to some purpose during the last immediately preceded it, but to the Corn-law before that
cheers.) The Right Honourable Gentleman had called for
twelve months. The coalition had taken place, but he -to the Corn-law of 1815. That Corn-law absolutely
a vote of confidence, without stating what he meant to
(Mr. Cobden) believed it was now about to be brought prohibited the importation of foreign corn until the price do. -( He ar, hear.) Corn-laws, Sugarslews, Timber-laws;
to a close. Let them remember that they were now in this country should have reached 80s. a quarter. Was finances, taxes-al were left in obscurity, and on these grounds
about to return to a population deprived of work that the same as the present Corn-law, the merits of the Right Hon. Baronet anted for the confidence of the Moose
and sueseering from the want of every comfort, which, however, lie would not then go into ?-(lronical and the country. Whateser might be said of the late Govern-
and consequently deeply dissatisfied. Let the true cheers from the Opposition.) Honourable Gentlemen ment, they had at least propounded Tactical measures for re-
source of the grievances of the working, classes be aster- must be perfectly .aware that under the present Corn- tiering the distress of the country, and had brought them
tamed. That was due to the capitalists and the employers , law there had been a much greater increase in the im- stsraallibly bdetfooriet
hthteenHtohueseb-urdmeenasoufretasxcaatlicounlatendhitioortehleievße i theht
of the poor. They have before them six months of pri- portation of cern from foreign countries than could have
Hone., aanonenghavin refused even to discuss those rasesti!fide
vation and suffering, such as he would be loth to witness, taken, place under that Corn-law which he had attempted
asked errs vole of s4ply, stating, as his ground for asking it,
and such as Hon. Gentlemen opposite would not witness, to identify with it. He (Lord (Sermon) was not
that he in ended to postpone until next winter the bringing
because they would be shooting in their preserves.- mere insensible than those Gentlemen who claimed to forward rine meaturet to relieve the dlitteCtes of the people,
(Cries of " Hear," and " Oh," on the Ministerial themselves a monopoly of humanity, to the hardships, Mr. LITTON said he was sorry to hear from Hon, Gentle-
benches.) Let him tell Hon. Gentlemen opposite that the sufferings, and the distress endured by the inhabi- Nen opposite, observations calculated to create discontent and
their monopolies were the known cause of the distress of tants of the manufacturing districts. He believed Hon. excitement, but he was desirous of rising, as the eepreeetitetive
our operatives ; and that if wages were reduced, it was Gentlemen on his side of the House had shown them- of an Irish eenstituetiey, to pray her Alajesty's Government
to them it would be owing. The wages of labour were selves as actively alive to those sufferings as the mill- would take tittle to deliberate on such an imrortant question.
the rations of the poor ; but the majority of that House, owners of Lancashire, and the present was a vain attempt He thought he expressed the opinion of that country! whenehe
by diminishing the market for labour, were lessening on the part of the mill-owners to draw. the attention of tif the
Co
as ptopesed by the late Administraticti
those rations. The laboining classses should know who the people from themselves, as the cause of much of the psaided int a l 't would ' lv Irelatul in tediate rind
it was that robbed them.-(Cries of " Hear, hear.") I distress, and to direct it against the land-owners. The em ediabole rauirLi (Hear ihnveoaneherr and laughter.) If no
It was not the capitalists. He said solemnly that he mill-owners had no right to come forwanhwith these irertitions from Ireland were presented against that law, the
petitions
was because the people knew such a measure could
believed no calamity would be more deeply felt exclusive claims to humanity-they had no right to stag- never pass that House. It Was Very well to describe the
by the manufacturers of Lancashire and Yorkshire, matise those who differed from them on an abstruse miseries and sufferings of the manufacturers of England, but
than that they should be driven to the necessity of di- point of political economy, on which even many Mem- were the four or five millions of the Irish people, ..hem the
minishing wages. He believed that capitalists were bore on the other side differed in opinion. Why; Lord proposed alteration would ruin; to be altogether fiver:nen ?
aware that the worst thing for them was to have a Congleton had at one time been of opinion that no im- -( Hear, hear.) He wield assert that. misery, penury , want,
badly-remunerated population ; for, as Mr. Burke had portation of foreign corn should be permitted until the , and actual deprivation of the necessaries of 1.6• would
said, "we are all the pensioners of the working classes." price in this country should amount to 120 s. a quarter. follow the measure of the lite Administration if passed into a
They were the great consumers and customers of the They should recollect that this was a question as to the law, Thili!risil.peoplethaocif not the resourcesdt dbfenitietsufehtiettirtn
country, and therefore sell-interest alone would induce sliding scale or a fixed duty, and those who were of tn
Invert ftr?o, 11'tPheiplrernft Corn-lawgsawnerelto be taken tro.lm them.
the manufacturer to. maintain, if possible, the rate of opinion that a fixed duty was preferable had no right on
wages. He said without fear of contradiction, that the that account to hold the language they had held, and A arson that knew Ireland must know that her pitiOrity
clenpyerPeeled on agriculture, aria if that sippOrt Was withdrawn,
capitalists of the North of England- had for the last to speak of those who differed from them in opinion as four or fire iiiillibris Woald be destitute of the Means of living.
three years carried on their business at a positive loss. if they were deficient in feelings of humanity.-(Cheers.) She stank Holy three Or four sea-ports that were prosperous, and
He would say more, that during the last five years the If her Majesty's Ministers had had any specific nest/Mtn had not., eke England, numerous and flourishing tennis. 'l'He
capital of Lancashire had decreased fifty per cent. like Hon. Gentlemen opposite for the relief er this dis- greater number of the towns in Irelarin derives their support
' Capital had been depreciated, and it had gone, in a great tress, then they would certainly be culpable if they did from the agricultural population, aiad if the agrieutterists were
measure, to pay labourers who by short-work and occa- not' propound it at once ; but he believed that there • ruined, ruin ayottlel, Soon. Overtake the inhabitfirenol the tikiis:
' sional cessation of work, had still continued could be no doubt hut that her Majesty's Ministers did He bad not iieard, dhrihg the debate, any Irish Member as-
nominally to receive the same rate of wages not attribute the present distress of the country to the tree that Tielatid Would not be ruined by the proposition of
ehel te Government He would sa afe v words with resact
las before. But the funds of the Union Association Corn-laws., and that no alteration witieh they might r a . • - y : .
tothebeing of the question on the Irish franchises. The
had in the meantime been drained. During the last bring fin-ward with regard to thtiat laws would
Conservatives wished to leave to Ireland a hid, fair; and bona
twelve months he believed there had been more paid out be brought forward under the pretence of remedying the pre- fide franchise; and he tvotild tell the Hen, Gentleman oppoe
of union funds than had been contributed out of the poor- sent distress.-(Hear, hear.) He did not attribute that dis-
site the measure of the late Administi•atioti would materially
i dl-
rates to paupers. But these funds were now exhausted ; tress to the Corn-laws, and not very long since the Manches-
ter Chamber of Commerce had not attributed it to the Corn, minish those fratechitee. Many who could tides svtiar to a indite
and what had they to expect next. Why, in the unfor-able interest of 101. above the rent, would not be able to do so
laws.-( Hear, hear.) a The Chamber of Commerce of Man-
tunate borough which he represented, they were threat- if the Corn-law was changed. He would say, and he knew
cued with a conflict between the master and the labourer. etihieeleorintl-aSdtaototkribßuatenksthaattudtisitfreass toertlatitanok of Englfandtuatnd Ireland, that one-half the Irish frenehiteS irduld be ctit oil by
Wages must now be reduced some 20 or 30 per cent., were asked in private at the present moment if he attributed a change of the Corti-lad, He (Me. Liftoff) wondered that
and if wages were reduced in one place they would that distress to the state of the Corn-laws, he would answer that Heeset who preitssed themselves the only friends o Ire=
soon be reduced every where. When these things were no, but would say it was owing to trailing being carried be- land, should be so forgetful of her ftaftchises; theingehr.
stated to Hon. Gentlemen opposite, they were told the yond its legitimate bounds by capital artificially applied, a m(aileare)are
th:ertyttinlittnlef fdrier the
agriculture,
nudof h
they
0 Nein the
operatives might be sent to the poor-house. He believed state of things which must sooner or later terminate in dis-
distre; of her people:-( Hear, hear, clad latililsrehtlr, ) Then
the Right Hon. Baronet had stated the other night that tress, and that they were now saffeting 'the breaking of the
he could lay of the hewer closet of the people 'of Itelandelidt
those who administered the poor-law must have been bubble. These were the causes to which, in their country
they rejoiced irt having an Administration which would obtain
sadly neglectful of their duty. But was that all that the houses and in private, they attributed the distress at the pre. for them a freedom from agitation, and Attend allow them t 6
hard-working and skilful operative had to console him ? sendt
talking of
:Voile
lin public they were harranging multitudes
pursue industry without solution-( Heat and laughter)
Was lie to be deprived of work, and then to be reduced and of pn'p ssionorn the oofulid)loria, of:
baPne"'°Cmonopoly,
Corn-laws
ttpeztteofsatyhe that,alth
mischief,o u gh .
and he would say that the Irish appointments had not only
to the condition of a 'pauper ?-(Hear from ehe Ministerial they attributed to they wgiven satisfaction as tespeated the executive portion of them,
benches.) He (Mr. C.), as the representative of the opera- those laws were not the teclusive oil the main cause of yete
as was atittlitted b all parties; bet eVen the acv appointments
tires of Stockport, would tell Hon. Members who cried distress. If her Majesty's Ministers had any remedy for that Were liked, find id gwen great satiSfaction.-( Hear and
" Hear," that they would not be paupers, that they ab- distress and did not come down with it, they would be highly laughter.) They were a guarantee that the law would be
es
~
hored pauperism as much as the Right Hon. Baronet culpable; but he believed that her Majesty's Ministers salt{ habituallyfithromAstleryaapnilohtt,imiaerowtiasilloyhaßodomwthreisterlhandthiusieteotildthoehlyvttegtet
himself, and that they would resist a law which was re- they did not pretend to remedy that distress by any sudden said, that although he wasa not' an
during them to pauperism ; or, if they could not resist measure.-( Ironical cheers from the Opposition. ) He would
Ike to ask Hon. Gentlemen on the other side whether they
it, they would submit to the secondary punishment oflrish Memberi the HMI: and Learhed Oentlerean who had just
tat &hen krie* he had a stake in the country (Iliear heat)
our penal code-they would transport themselves to din- considered it their measure. fur if an Bs. fixed duty had been
thereby
f?litavremboenetuhs ago, present state of distress Witni
taut lands, where they would be placed in a condition
yrearilethvoiatet,ed.
he
fmthied present price of
sid and that it was entirely connected with agriculture. ' Yet he
would say that the improvement of Ireland would advance upon
less humiliating than at home. What were the argu- bread y would have beseensliba repeal of the Cdrritla*.-(Cheeet and laughter.) He
manta advanced by the Gentlemen opposite that even-not say ; but het
(Mr. C.) did ea atibecala the prepinitien Of the late Govern.
neLwide be no doubt'jrh butn that
would say that there
state of distress of the temmercial classes would have been the ing ? They had not a word of consolation for our suffer- Milt, hut he adeocated the measure of S. total repeal.-( Hear,
im-
ing mechanics. He had heard from them nothing like same. He theegtat it his duty to come forward on the pre: hear?) Thefe wis nd nett of Ireland more prosperous or
condolence or commiseration-(lronical cheers from the sent occasion, representing, as he did, a large commercial ten• preying than that in which manufactures were in connection
Ministerial benches)-and that, he believed, was owing stinterity, to reply to the taunts of the Hest, Geritteillan who
e Was' iten 4
with agricujjeire-( Hear, heat)h-and, in, fact, greater dentin
to an ignorance of the constituencies whom the Gentle- had lost spoken, and who seemed to censider that on his (Lord fort did notillist in any part, otn
thee British empire. It was by
men represented. They were told by the Right Hon, Sandon's) side of the House, there were only to be found re-hadfafieulttife &the fof
other means their! thee ofeeeenth, population in the north of
Baronet that he would have a controversy with the Noble presentatives of seek places as Sudbury-(Cheers)-and Bride Irelitisl Bald thein felet7_wliat
Lord opposed to him. The Right Hon. Baronet be- port.-( Loud cheers.) He had stated those sentiments to his
constituannebefore his election. He did not believe that any ale the people of Ireland
on
herojaatroonohthfi theit valrttee 7tfandg6rdi..
gan his speech by telling them he was inclined to have wegeaP, population
that onomto altways n-
a party contest on the occasion. The Right Honourable tlatiten in the Corn-laws would. materially affect the cbtiditieti se
alteration
toratitet produceh would not oeru culture
d 2 13.00,a9 f
e (near.) he honourable and Learned Gentlertien said that an
Gentleman had jointly entered into that contest. But any
labouring chlaiseshest,haantdaitit was a great question whetuer
unanimous feeling prevailed in Ireland as to the bad Atte
he (Mr. Cobden) protested against that House being beymoreanthaagnecaowunterbalancedof the late Goteinirrient's preposition of a fixed duty but there
be sop-
made a mere debating club.-(Loud cheers from the posed most to rent by that alteration by who
mightacc 4 was tib tetnenee et pity senh feFtirigs.-enHeet, heat.) There
Ministerial benches, again and again renewed.) Hon. disadvantages. PHe hail expressed thesesentimen°tuAgre.l%. bad been tits petitions oh the subject. ineithef &Atli! he (Mt,
Hon. and Learned Gentleman that her
Gentlemen should remember that he (M. Cobden) was large meeeantile constituency, and he could state that the eie C.) agree With the
tolerably seasoned in physical force, and that he was peession of them had not appeared to draw on hint arty unnontte Mijesty's resent advisers had given universal satisfaction in
not easily to be put down. But he was going to protest I inritY• - r ifelenia.-(Chiert.) No detibt the people there were luke-
against the Right Hon. Baronet's considering that they Sir RORERT PEEL wished to say OM tVerd ih explana- warm in supporting the late Government, because they had
had brought a charge
were sent there to listen to party controversies between Lion as to a part of the speech of the Hen. Member for Stock-;Ilia
tflooiuntn.
id eodfToi
The
edt, h eHon, grossest
eht andie
mmtiniis t, n '
not gone far enough in ashn' n Liberalmeasures but, t
compare.,o,tthetiefte ith re ar te e reent ; Government, u
him and the Noble Lord. He (Mr. Cobden) had come port, in which thatr Hon, Member
eawexeer
ka it r natosnr
tit g hi
hoi.
inettmr
ys(eSlfrni
up
aesheyis°(eitilategtatawined ' rowards their sprOdoicessors, was
there for a different purpose. It was their duty to con-perfectly absurd.-( Heat, heat.) On the contrary, the people
cider the interests of the country at large, irrespective
of party and of faction. When the Right Hon. Baronet t him (Sir Robert Peel) of' statingPe thatl tlittlatioonr,khad accused
had announced his determination to postpone discussion, ought to be satisfied with the condition of oda; S.. IngitfoWtitis there were apprehensive of the pre-emit Admitistration ; bat
.lasses he hoped the conduct of the Hiatt Here Berdnet wined re-
move all grounds for such feelings. He wined say a fete
he (Mr. Cobden) had expected he should have some argu- was the foundation of that statement. Ile'( Sir U. Peel had
merits to justify the delay, and that something would be some months ago betted the Hon. dentleman (the Member for words
_upon the general cidestion, and he begged to vouch for
the present distress; and abeilate necessity for speedy mea-
saida case of the most appaning ieuercea2( which might give hope for the future. But
distress, He had listetied to the relation of that car by the
Bolton) mention in that Hoagie Chieers,) He Would &It say what ought td be done;
no : the Right Honourable Gentleman wished for appalling he would say; whatever wee to be done, might to be dbrin
time-and for what ? In order that he might
had 'mentioned the case of a weave' who, surrounded by
Hon. Member with most painful feelings. The Hem elembei at once: The great question; mein from all party views, was,
consult those functionaries connected with the whether the Corn:dews should be upheldii or not. He thought
Government, who might have some important come his family, had expired in a state of the deepest dittreas, and the question thoUld be porfeiaed to
oel(is'liciThlltntl thsattithe. de-
munications to make. But had not the Right hhis body had been found extended on the heatnin Hit death bate should notth e beo opinion
o e
f ratheereHowute ascettaihedWa 0
we 1
mohtielyti
Honourable Baronet, in common with the rest of his paedelbehenadaleributed to actun staevation. When he (Sir R.
symp)athy foratrdhetsta4 statement` enter expressing the deepest '‘to.aymaolse (me tereaPrk to the Rig h t her
Bean:set will res
fellow-subjects, an opportunity of reading the evidence
ea of that poor man ended his fainitte t® he ilddr-le*, and that was, whether he *mild force do the
taken before the Import Duties Committee ? He might he had said that a'svat " -
' there have met with the evidence, not .only of those con- inquiry if it were eappalling to head. to the -pe ogle the Poor-law, where unions had net been Yet esti-
omsseinbtleso thataPblished? He heped the Right Hoe, fnehtlemell wthild eottainel
netted with the Board-of Trade, but of one who was now ' perly administered wherell' such a. steno at thingr'av Wild be pro- ,k,I h a sitieseetina. .
s was seffeted tie
in the service of the Government, who had retired front ' eelst, and, ;rom that the Hies. Gentleman took oects.s;c to lir. al J. O'CONNELL begged td say
,eine word before
his duty full of honour, and whose last act was the must neeehe him (Sir n - nun of tatter, that the wanting classes the debater closed. Ileatna willine,, SIS , eh/ If:igti ininridenr; td
glorious of his life. He alluded to Mr. Deacon Hume ought to be satisfied with the cerainintai of paupers, now the
a take upqn hintielf tlin ottattdny of entirely disagneeitig anti title'
The Right Hon. Baronet could consult Mr. Huni-d and first thing that he (Sit Rs ti'eel) had &Ma after hie appoint, tArAing froiii tee. confidence which the Hon.. and Learned Gene
Mr. Porter on the subject of the Corn-lay.-.s. " went to the goveetteeeht,deified Mr.q Inetoe)nepreterited f.s
,at.q.clit,t!eiilie
ulrlehh dein
Their was tel write to his tiitht Heif.
evidence had been reprinted in Americas -n, Friend the Saectetary of S`sate for the Home tienaitilint) Wit: ioillt!ile..ts, a
LI it), ptoteet h
end was known •nflombslee Lord'sfadr. speech by thetßigttet
nag hints that that corichisione derived.#sOT the
':tory was still **ilia* on lie's mihd, and
to every one. The Right Hon. Baron
however, wished
t .holi h" hil h 'ae I-much -
to consult his own functionary. ed ' that It such a ;gate of thittfl n'Ouldity possibility exist it tea's a
Hon. Baronet? whiett , spear eto g t come,. ( more
But was that a reason reflect:- state{ e •, - • e • --' . '' -a thin the 1/0814 Lord Has
.-a.riailOtt in eonc:edirig: . Though
ashy they should have th ..un upon the Os e society in general--(Cheeo)-1 d
..1 question deferred for five respect for Lora _ant e
he had personally a high, a , . .
months ?He (Mr. Cob-' - . • nuviaing brat instantly to eend an assistant liallaW Commis- ,
nly thought not. rr e sioner to Belton Right Hon. Ger.' -ten) utCtat
,1 nolton to irittitate k+ immediate inquiry.- as lois. , l
thoueht he would want the Ponti or the iticlinetime,
• hification ter- - ] LIS , • . ormaa also alleged, in Fps own (Cheers. ) That iflviti7e ?ias taken, and the assistant I
henP,ehe a • .' nt ei '' Ing 1;1 .e'. et intentiond
or erhe s th to
~, ire , ett Sol tt
s‘ . ,
le act. e could not tureet the eittrirue ildinn4
measures de. ...se the late government had
theya:eLayed their r Cemmheintitt '
Wee at the present moment at faetthri I 'aneP Lord`'ee • , , -
five at
quarrel . erf".!; "V"e of years, edartakinn innaliries into that statement, whiea iseid haat bid tiro
could not t - , 1 '
with t to
'Ol his nnot sj part, epon, is C n tiC , respee
woe. . with hint for a delay of five months, Bee that or tnree months ago.-( Cheers, e Tikst Wes the foundation of
e , tie Ira e -,--
ai t" i and 110.4 lie lied hied tanated -In the
le n. un Rip_ Ace, ~ .• 4i, 11 . t• ter •_1;, i;
• .dd sly show that the Right lion; Baronet *as fol- the charge which had been beelleht against him, atioe heemite Whit. Mitt a en• ennere, Decease he wisnee co at.ay
rein ii. Its the track of those from whose heelicy he dif- he had expressed fits horror at the statement Made he tlne Hon.with ;11 Vg• and local diatirictionS-( Hear, hear)-and he
much feraereldidif'lana vote upon flint nceasnin vataifid not If re-
, feted. Again, the Right Hon. Baeettet asked the Mem- Ih. Memberti fee
,Boitore, the Itear...Orentienteri 'asite had charged
me be 'et bn lilt iitetti partath Ireldnit. Ile liEd tin OrdideneW
hers of the late Administration whether they were pre- wiimthwtittistatina that tine Wariness classes ought to be satisfied ~R,v, i. , .„ A
condition 'or pfeapers.- Loran cheering.;) ' D attmerit tint if they
tt e eere try, or t e erne ep I really
pared to stand by the Bs. duty. But was that the way to Ma. HAWE would sae ' (d.
with ftspet tto the expli- wished to do avian Wlth the inequality vilitch,atihiisted in the
give satisfaction to the country ? Was it in that way that nation of the Rine', Ho lire sti s!tistien td ,Ili` it 'i-i' Mfinicipni ketil of Eniklarlde leelirid; . end Snonnedn the dueftd
the Prhue Minister of the country should treat a naestion Friend, th- -I be forn'S let" .ki'i. &it ii. thii,6 ('-
. exhibit thelt 'diSpdsitidn to do justiceto irelana by peeing itietif
of such importance to starving millions e--h )of ' • .., oem r , bee tits , a -et, - . the tpeech
tut an Otnialite with reghd t 6 that Act:. He entirely dissented
The Might
from ehe Castandia-like predictions of the, Hon. and Learned
ght Hon. Baronet afterwards went into elabor- , ferent matinee lertin t'eht which the Right H 64; Birooet had
calculations for the purpose of (sheaving. the f' "6C nett ettpteeeen It. He then ht the Mann ei4e6.11 Indebted to Gentlemen as to the ibeeefit that Ytes. likely eo flow frame the
the measures of the late Getserninent. ''s -'' - -the Herhou-rable Member fer Stonepoit for having elicited.the to i lad .'rid 116 *dui(' lit} allnyien et
new Administration re e; 4 ~ .. . .
sidering that the Right lion. Baror eteally, estop- . speech .ef (the Nnble ut,,,a the Member fur Liverpool. At least to express his doubts of the advantages to be derived from
stating that he had not time to re -ec comnaetivelet by •.1
• leneth they pack it epeech from the other side, calculated to the Geeernenetit of the Right Hon. Barotiet.
entered into a very minut- -take up his minds he had , •
thieh- see* light on the future intentions of the lat-oartrament. rable seirpfise that
;iii, said he bad .felt cortdr, „ . .
the Administration W' " ‘4 criticism et the measnits •of", ...Vries of " No, no.") He said " Vass ytt,v• for the Noble lion. Gehtlemen opposite should have attributed ail the singets
was nothing in
n,. hitch had preceded him. ,tit *here Lord had taken upon himself to say that her Majesty's Minis- which existetlie Lancashire,
,artul in other parts of the country,
nothing the' nit that that could be called .argtiMent, and tern did not attribute the present distress to the existing state t ; had
to the operatibn of the Cotq-la*s • since it must be recol-
tested 0 .. could satisfy the cenantenr. he (Mr. C.) pro- of the Coin-laws.-(Loud cheers.) And he had alma said that'l ,4 "..' 'die those laws were
lectea that distress prevat ee. evert w lien
the eaerefore against all eischeaton being deferred if they were of opinion thy possessed any remedy for that not in operation. He (Mr, Hardy) was not in the least sdr-
s grounds that had beep Alleged. He had withinupon d'they - that
d immediately t• prised it the, etistree of distress, when he recollected
the in-
:est fortni - ' 'M
seen the distress would be boon to propose it. But •• . , t
4 16 the Ilotise h the Hon.
ght to, a tolthester intelligent that, t d • • th ld ten
men, capable of as they entetta Ile no such opinion ey wou no e s formetion Whin an neen g ven Y
man haul told the
forming an opinion, apprehensive of disturbe in bark in any discussion.-(Loud cheers from the Opposition.) Member for Oldham. The Hon.
Gentleman
es four dif-
Menthe:at-et^ during the winter. They said thatnc He gave the Noble Lord credit for having ,considerable know- Halite that in the.. 1820 there wertel_
~..,
96 mid that in that
atight die-, hut men and Englishmen would never see theirulen ledge of works nn political economy, ,and yet the Noble [pia feetht aetlialet tehlell piorinced a
suraof cotton manufactured,
children starve around them. He could himself said that all the leading authorities on that %Inject Weee dleided year there were 18,000,000:tbs.
was 400,000.000, and the
to the House that Ire knew a borough in which ther N declare in opinion on the question of the Corn-laws, He (Mr. Hawes) whereas at
dpuceti resent
il othino csittaont,l y , ,
7s After such a statement no
a difficulty in finding a person to fill the office of Ma was I contended that there wee a most singular concurrence of opt=
Noe ewasae wander.
at tt ' distress. Men borrowed money
and that because it was feared there would ben r,
I Mon among all the leading authorities as to the disastrous efa fromne jthl• it etoCkbanks to build large works bemuse they had
during the next winter. He gave them those facts ;they
convulsion Teets r
to
of
any single
and he would. challenge the
_Nohle Lord to
a seen eothirer-s. p •Osper ; the market was soon glutted ; and, Toy
authority in ssgp'ert of his (Lord nandon'se
might smile if they pleased, but they were facts nevertheless. view of they question,
ore
were then glad to obtain any rice for their maruaci
referred to the number o
He would tell them more-that those on whom they L eel SANDON-Me. Huskisson. tures. The Honourable Nlember
w itheut ttfnauts,
relied for keeping the peace in the manufacturing die_ I Mr. HAWES woald refer the Noble Lord to the last speech houses in Mencheeter and Viqrct r,hich . .41 W .
tricts, had very few motives left for keeping \
n-e peace that Mr. Euskissan had ever made in that House, and which as a proof of destiiidon. lie would mention one fact ;n an-.
at all.-(Hear) They had in that House, by their was evidently in favour of a free trade in corn. Every one slier to that statement. In travelling on the niancnester and
Legislature injured the fortunes of the middle classes, who had read the seches of Mr. Huskisson, must have re- Leeds Railway he had observed a number of persons waiting,
had ruined inanufitcturers, and they had torn down d that there was a gradual change in his opinion, always
they rnwke .
prog-easing toward • f • t ' • -.•
the boar sae by which the aristocracy was supported. 1 did riot claimg s a free eace in corn. He ( Mr. Hawes) struck vat sso singular an appearance, he had internee' into the
•opinion •
They had nothing. in the shape of public in the i any sueenority in humanity over Hon. Gentle I cause, and he was told that • in consequence of the cheap eon.
men nypix,ite, hui he was entitled to consider their' policy- •
veyanee by railway many persons wit() formerly lived in Man-
north of England upset which they could rely. They 1 %part teem their personal 'feelines; and. in' speatineoi'ttl j eltester and Salford had aken ceitages at a distance, ter %%Inch
must endeavour to keep the peace by bayonets, but the ! policy, he felt bound to denounce it as pregnant with 'evil, and 1 they were paying a rent of et., while forme, ly they had paid
effort would prove ineffectual, unless they carried bread Iss one to which might mainly be attributed the suffering exist- t 101. He beleved that the only remedy for distress was to re-
with those bayonets. He warned them against the com- in in the country. The Right Hon. Gentleman, in the duce the manufactures to the demand. There was upon the
art winter. He would say the times were perillous ; , amended address, had adopted that portion of her Majesty's manufactures of England a protection of ten per cent. ; but no
and he would remind them of the circumstances under I
of
fpetiech in which she expressed her sympathy for the distresses allusion had been made to that by those who had complained
which the Corn-law was passed. It was passed in that I
1 alleviated. PllPle and her anxiety that those distresses should be I of the protection cn corn. Why was such a protection afforded
House while surrounded by soldiers, horse and foot-it I Baronet's sympathy
Now, what acre the to think of the Right Hon. 1 unless to prevent the introduction of foreign manufactures?
was passed at the point of the bayonet.-(" No, no," I alleviate them, whenthose
fordistresses, and of his desire to
they
ii found that he proposed to post- 1 The Noble Lord thelate Secretary for Foreign Affairs said that
the Honourable Baronet did but technically represent
from Lord sandon and other Members on the Ministe- I pone all consideration of( the people of this greatly surprised that a
rial benches.) The Noble Lord the Member for Liver- 1 ing his feeling for their 'distresses,em for fiv!efis months?
actAfttiutartexpress- ,
Nolatehord, who country. nae
il,,ciaesm
e
first he
.did b r of the Government
eool denied. the aseereion ; but he chlr. Cobden) would i was to shut the doors of House,thitt 41'andIwhich f-rnird the R f 4:311
1 ' I hart ' utterance
all
postpone comae. ,.. a orni hill, scone given to
tepunit that the Henn-, vans at the time surrounded witn
• a 'of dram till
1 ration - hear. ) The. Right i such a si.nliment.-( Hear, hear. ) Slii,di had beep raid with
soldiers. He did not mean the present law, but the ; lion. Baronet, ii, that part of speech which, judging from nra veer-. to the influence of briber'- t:nd eornzi,ti,p; i;'.: Ow lost
law of 1815. And between the two laws he could tell I effective, had taunted the ! the' applause which it received, might be considered the most election. NOW, ante were many eVays of committing bribery,
the Noble Lord the Member for Liverpool that there was i Noble Lord by saying that if he i and many ways of treating.-(Heare, hear) Ye u might treat
but vary little choice. The law had passed at the pout k blamed hint (Sir R. Peel) for delay, what blaule was not ; and you might promise to treat. He thought there never was
1

an election at which there was a greater promise of treating
than that which had just terminated—it was a national promise.
The Ministers, in appealing to the people, promised every man
in the kingdom a big loaf for a little penny. The. was the cry
with which they went forth to all the I opular constitueecies in
the enuntry ; and, in spite of that cry, in defiance of that
bribe, these popular constituencies had returned that majority
which was called technical. Even at the nomirretions, which
were another species of election—for there all had a vetece—
the majority was generally in favour of the policy of the present
Government. Why had the INoble Lord postponed the (con-
sideration of the Poor-law until after the election ? Was it
hot because he thought the people would not swallow that as
they would swallow the big loaf? Yet, although they appealed
to the country, and in the most favourable aspect, the result
had been the dissolution of the Goveinment.
Mr. HINDLEY said he had not intended to utter a single
word in the cuurse of that debate, but after theaord
speech of the Hon, elember who had just sat down, and who
represented a commercial district, he could not maintain a per-
fect silence. He did not know whether the constituents of
the Him. Member were leaving their former houses to ge and
enjoy the toiletry air, but he could tell the Hon. Member that
his selr. Ilindley s were far from being in such a condition.
If the statements of Hon. Member for Bradferd, with re-
ference to the number of untenanted houses were true, the real
cause of it was that four or five' families were compelled to oc-
cupy one house. The Hon. Gent,_ had taunted the ma-
nufacturers with making too many artieles. Was it not a fact
employed he
that hundreds and thousands of persoesi who were
*hem? 'The com-
manufactures were not able to purchase 'sr too many
plaint Was not that they had too many calicos
coats, but that they had too little food.-411ear'
hear, hear.) There was not a more industrious' c.. "a
of people in she world than the labouring population of Eng- I
land, nor was there any in which they were so ill paid. He wished
t ) address one or two worth to the Right lion. Baronet at the
head of the Government. In the course of his speech upon
the want of confidence in her Majesty's late Ministers, the
Hon. Baronet had asked, Why have we ail these statements
of distress frem the manufacturingdistricts ? How is it that the
overseers have been so remiss in their duty ?" During his late
Visit to the country he had been called upon for private charity
by a person who had been thrown out of employment in conse-
quence of the adoption of machinery, and this person had told
hiei, that on applying to the overseers of the township of Roy-
ton—a parleit iii the neighbourhood of Oldham—all that was
allowed for the support of hitioette his wife, and three children,
was Is. 6d. per week. Was that just to the people of Eng-
LH? Hear, hear.) They ought to view the Poor- law and
the Corn-law in Cenneetion. The labouring classes must leut
any longer be prevented from exchanging their labour for
food. The great body of the people were full of shuffe implored
the House and the Hon. Baronet opposite to adopt such mea-
sures as were necessary to relieve their distress.
Mr. MILN ES perfectly agreed with the lion. Gentleman
who had just addreised the House, that the ,Poar-lclaimed aw an th
fore
Cornelaw should be discussed together ; but he d
the Hon. Baronet euffieierit time to prepare his measures for
the relief of the coital. The Corn-lase ITRA a law which
bore upon every interest in the teintry, arid it must be deli-
berately discussed. The great difference between the he
fßieht
ormer
Baronet and the late Government was,
that t
proposed no particular panacea as a remedy for an the evils
Which pressed upon the e,ountry..—( Hear, hear.) fie hail
been much struck With the speech of the Noble Lord the
late Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Who had, he thought,
treated the representatives of the people with great diare-
pect. An ertiresition might be conducted in two ways—either
hi a corrective arid Mittel character, or by assuming that the
Majority of the Hotted did tint truly represent the people,
Taking this fetter eider, he would put It to the Noble Lord who
had opened the debate,- Whether after his doctrines of finality he
could head such an opposition whiedi Wes lox emdected withoet
kettle, ifl opposition to his own pride/I_4'e (Heat, bear. )
The Noble Laid opposite had spoken of Pee trade as (rood 211
itidlf. It mattered het, said he, how our diplomatic felationst
were conducted; tinstet all eircnmst anti:s our bes
policy was to lay down large peinciplee of free trade.
It had been laid down by a great moralist the adultery was a
great crime, because it could only be committed by tens Pere
eetie.-e-(Geeat laughter.) He would change the applitatt tette
itid ea* that tee peiticiples of free trade as laid down by the
Noble' Lord, cola ofily be a great and absolute good when
there were two consenting parties;—(lneroked laughter.) It
was his belief that the Administration of his Right Hon.
Friend would do all that could be done to prepagate--( Great
laughter)—thole principles without resorting to any of those
illegelee(Continued laughter)—he might say immoral, pro •
ceedings,. by which her Majesty's late Government attempted
to bring about the same object.
Mr. V. SMITH said that his only object it rising to address
the Hume, was not to find fault with any of the futuremese
sires of the Bight Hein, Baronet opposite, but to advert to an
iiidisceetiori which he had ermimitted in the debate that
?veiling; he elliideci to what the Right Hon. Baronet had
stated With fespeet tie the colonies of New South Wales and
New Zealand. The Hight Baronet had alluded to a dis-
vtch from the Governor of New South Wake, and from that
bad inferred that the colonies of New South Wake MIA New
zettiand *ere approaching to national bankruptcy, becatise
erdees had bert issued for bounties upon healthy emigrants.
Those orders were only of a temporary nature, and the Right
flail. Baratta had been greatly Mistaken in supposing that
those orders would make any cefielderedile call upon the Treasury
He believed that the colonies of New Solidi Wales and New
Zealand were some of the most prosperous in her Mapsty'e
deminionef andhe felt bound to make the statement he had done,
in ordef toferriosie any erroneous impressions which the state-
merits of the Right. Hon. Baronet might have produced
With respect to thole who felt inclined to emigrate to those
coleiliese
Sir R. PEEL theuebt he need only read the despatch of the
Noble Lord opposite in July of the present year, to the Go-
vernor, Sir G. Gipps, to justify himself with the House for the
staterrierits lie had made. The Right Hon. Baeotiet then read
the despatele end observed that he agreed with the rioulti Lord
ifi viesteirg With the deepest anxiety the statements of the Ge.
vernor of Nest Suiith
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he certainly did view
the statements of Sir G. Gipps with petit Itmliety in the
first instance, but he now believed that the land sales in the
twd colonies to which allusion had been matte would amply
supply the amount that had been required for bounties for
emigeati
Mr. FIELDED said that the Manufacturing districts were
in a most desperate state, and under swell circumstances
Were they, he would ask, to be told that they had only met to
'tote supplies, and to extend a measure for six months, Which
had been desecrated throughout the country ? He contended
the!. whets distress existed in the country it was the duty of the
House tie itiquire into the causes of it, and do all in its
power to afford a remedy. Let the House remove taxation,
and within a month they would bring about a better state of
things; and believing that Parliament would do too, be thought
it ads their duty to enter upon the subject at once. lie wished
to
That
his opinions upon record. He would therefore more
" That the distress of the working people, at the present time,
is ed great thretighotit the country, but particularly in the man-
nufacturing districts, that it is the duty of the House to make
instant inquiry into the causes and extent of that distress—oto
devise the means of remedy ; but, at all events, t 9 vote n
Needles of money until such inquiries are reside," and if he
found any one to second his motion he would divide the House.
Dr. BOWRING seconded the motion. The Right Him.
Neorret the Member for Tamworth said to the starving multi-'
tudes wait, and he was afraid the House would respond, and
say we will wait ; but it Would be very difficult for the poor,
who were without bread, to wait for five months without hope.
Ha knew there was much humanity and kindness on the other
side of the House, and if they would only consent to inquire
into the distress existing in the country, it would be proved to
them in such colours as would oblige them instantly to con-
thief some means of remedying it. There were thou-
sands and tens of thousands of suffering people whose
distress never as found out by the Commissioners or their
agents—who suffered in secret, and whose cases never were
beard of, until application was made for a coffin. The Noble
Lord the Member for Liverpool (Lord Sandon) said the
Poor-laws were not the primary cause of that distress. He
did not deny the distress. It was confessed it existed, and he
(Dr. Hovering') thought it was connected with so much politi-
cal discontent as to betoken much danger.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House divided,
when there appeared—
For the motion
For the Amendment ae
Majority -- 108
On tile attention, that the Speaker do leave the Chair—
Mr. W. WILLV.MS hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman
would not press the consitieeetion of the Supplies that nighon
t.
it need was the practice of the ;et,' Govern to go
vlitle -Votes St so late an hour. Many of the items were of eon-
stdereo!A IttipOttatice, and the House ought to ;:ese a fair ope
pertunity of inquiring into them.
VErEL had no wish to press any votes that might be
objected to. 1141 would have no objecion to postpone du:3n
until elonday. However, he hoped there would be no objec-
tion to the Speaker leaving the Clsair, in older that it might
fee known who the gentleman was who had been seleeted as
Mr. tit'ILLIAMS had no objection whatever to such an at'a
rengemente
The 11,
was then agreed to.
Si? PEEL said it would, in his opinion, be adviseable
to adhere to the arrangement of former years, and which had
been recom:nended by a Committee of the House, via, that the
Faller e. of attending to unopposed Private Bi2le should be given
to the Chairman of Committees of the House. With a view of
idditiv, influence and authority, he thought those deities should
te, Medici. He was anxious to name a gentleman who bad
pdid multi attention to the private business, and he trusted his
teletiion Would meet the approbation of the House. He had
peen iiiilqd44 to remedy an evil which had been complained of,
and he proposed that the Chairman of Ways and Means should
preside -over all Committees. Ile would propose that Mr.
Gfeeiii take the chair.
Mr. OR-FleggF( fleeting taken his place at the table, tftistiti
lax
might be alloeed to fetittii his thanks for the very flattering
triarnierini Which he hid been Called upon by the Committee
to prenee weer there': lie hoped he shot id teceive the indul-
gence and assistance of the litettfe in discharging hie duty, and
preserving order, and he was the More desirous to claim that
inctuegence from the recollection of the lid!, idle inftne.r
iii
I.ellit4i the chafe had been filled by his predecessor'.—(Heees
hear.) He sheelel be at all times most anxious to discharge
his duty in the fairest and most impartial manner.—( Hear.)
Sir R. PEEL said he proposed to take Bic first estimate, and
then that the Chairman should report progress. He
hoped
there would be no objection to that course.
Sir G. CLERK then moved that a sum of 106,0001. be voted
for the service of her Majesty, to complete the sum necessary
for the service of the Commissariat Department for the
year 11;41.
Mr. WILLIAMS thought it was time to make some reduc-
tion in those estimates, and he wo ild recommend the Right
Hon. Baronet to return to the estimates which be had pro-
posed to the House when he was last in office. The miscella-
neous estimates for the last year amounted to 2,e9e,e20e,
while, in the year le3o, they had only amounted to
1 940,0001. He hoped, under the present circumstances of
the country, that the subject would be taken into the serious
consideration of the Government.
Mr. JERVIS understood the present vote to be merely a
portion of the estimates which had been previously voted, and
to which the Government was pledged. He did not think there
ohisction ty that vote.

THE FUNDS—(CLosiNG PRICES.)
BRITISH FUNDS.
Bulk St ock ... ' India Stock ........... . ...
3 per Cent Red — Ditto Bonds • . 4 pni
3 per Cent Cons B9i 'Ditto Old Annuities ...
311 per Cent Red — ;Ditto New Annuities...
New 4 per Cent 99 Ea. Bills, 1,000/....20 13 pm
New 5 per Cent — I Ditto 5001
13 pro
Long Annuities to expire I I)itt Small l3
Jan. 1860 . . Bank Stock for 0pg....
Oct 1859 lndia Stock for Acct....
Jan. 1860.
FOREIGN FUNDS. •
Austrian, 5 per cent.... IPortuguese, 5 per cent.
Belgian, 5 per cent — !Ditto, New Ditto 3oi
Brazilian 80nd5.... — Prussian, 5 per cent.
Buenos Ayres, 6 per cent Russian, 5 per cent ll2l
Chilian, b per cent...... Ditto, Aletallic —
Colombian, 6 per cent... Spanish, 5 per cent 22i
Ditto, 1824. — Ditto, Deferred.
Danish, 3 per cent....... 80.-k French, 5 per cent.ll4f. 50e.
Greek, 18:45, 5 per cent. Exchange
Mexican, 5 per cent.... !French, 3 per cent —f. c
Ditto, 6 per cent, 1825. \ Dutch, '2i per cent. ... 51 L
Peruvian, 1825, 6 per et. :Ditto, 5 per cent lO2l
SHARES
Eastern Counties Railway (23 paid) 8
Great Western Railway (65 paid) —
Ditto Fifth (4 paid)
London and Brighton (50 paid) 454
London and Greenwich Railway (20 pd)
T ~,n, ion and South Western
' "cd North Midland Railway (50 paid) 74q

~.
York...

SPIRIT of the :1 ÜBLIC JOURNALS.
rEns OF THIS DAY.
FROM THE EVENING
GLOBE.—If the Right Hon. -11a.ronet tvho, by
prevailedempire,
last night) to
upon (for the lengthy reasons ie ga,-.4
:ain., imitate
draw his pig out of the poke—if we may a
one of his own similes—shrewd suspicions wt.l arse,li
from the speeches of Lord John Russell and Lon; al-
Merston, that his best excuse is really this—there is
pie- in it. It is bad enough to have bought a pig in a
poke; but it is worse still if the country shall
discover that it has bought the' poke without the
pig. There is another poke however ; and another pig;
and that pig squeaks so naturally, there is no mistaking
the real grunter. Our readers may remember the fable
of an actor whose forte was squeaking like a pig, and
a rustic rival, whom the audience decided did not
squeak half so naturally, until it was discovered that
the latter, had a pig under his cloak. Even stronger
than tthiS is the illusion of those Tory commercialists,
whose faith in Sir Robert Peel makes them believe
in the real presence of his pig (or, in other words,
that he will really go the whole hog for commercial
enfranchisement), though he will neither let them tee
nor bear any symptom to that effect. In the mean-
time, Lord Sandun, the rival provincial actor, makes no
secret of his pig, which is most assuredly alive and
kicking, whatever becomes of that of the Premier. It
will be strange indeed if tile positive evidence of Lord
Sandon in th Commons, in addition to that of the Duke
of Buzkingham in the Cabinet, and the Duke of Rich-
mond in the Lords should not open. the eyes of these
trusting Tories to the nature of their blind bargain with
this Ministry ! Lord Sandon sakl, "It was walknown, and
not disguised, that the present Ministry did not attribute
die present distress to the existence of the Corn-laws, and
that no measure which they might produce to the House would
be brought forward founded on the distress which at present
existed." Mr, Hawes said—" They had at last got a speech
from. en non. Member opposite, and that of the Noble
Uri the L'ember for Liverpool did throw some light on
&mop. comme.ecial policy of the Government. - The
Noble Lord had solo that it was perfectly well known
'
Ministers did not impute the
that her Mafesty's pre4en, ,
prevailing distress to the stat,? Y: the Corn-laws." Do
,
casure to scarce and
they impute that distress in no n.impute that
dear food for some years past ? D0.4.11ey
to the ope-
scarcenesg and dearness in no measure
ration of the prvsent Corn-laws ? Then they shut
their eyes to the plainest facto, and set at, defiance the
aree
most obvious deductions koin them. But what
facts. and reasons to monopolists ? If fact and • III'S"
influenced them, no monopoly ever would have been
stituted. If monopolists only were consulted, no mono-'
poly ever would have been overthrown. This will be
overthrOwn, however ! Its overthrow will quickly ensue
on this Ministry speaking out fur its maintenance. 'lnc
knealting up of his party would ensue on the Premier
spealtifiy oat against it. That is " his difficulty ;" no
plausibility will suffice to dissemble it ; and we believe
(in-perfect sinceMy we say, we fear) he has no force of
purpose and character' to meet and surmount it.
STANDARD.—Granting. for argument sake, that a
material change in the Corn-laws is necessary for the re-
lief of distress in the manufacturing districts, and grant-
ing also that this distress may be relieved by such a
change—propositions which we should be very unwilling
to concede except fur the sake of argument—granting
thus much, we ask, what reason is there to suppose
that the relief could be present, or that it would be
•obtained earlier in effect, or in a more beneficial
manner, by an impatient discussion in a hurried Ses-
sion, than by waiting until the regular Parliamentary
yeriod ? Markets are not opened in a day, nor can
it be expected that a question affecting so many
and so great interests as arc affected by the Corn-
laws. can be disposed of in a summary debate. As
Sir Robert Peel showed, in reference to the late Budget,
years lest elapse before the good effects of such changes
as are propti€l can be witnessed, if they are to produce
any ; and it is also very certain, that if a discussion of
the Corn-laws were eintninenced in September, the end
would not be a day earlier than if the commencement
should be postponed to February. The insinuated pro-
mise of immediate relief is, therefore, a gross fallacy. Re-
lief from this quarter, if it arrive at all, cannot possibly
arrive before the end of next year ; and questionless
it is not less likely to be beneficial when it shall
come, because the measures from which it is to flow
shall have been calmly and deliberately considered.
Lord John Russell, however, who seems to have
a miggiTing of the efficacy of his panacea, says,
though you cannot relieve the people by a
change of the Corn laws, you can at least satisfy them
of the impossibility. Yes. but this is only shifting •
the difficulty as respects the question of time. You
cannot satisfy the people upon the point but by a
full discussion, and such a discussion is not attainable
within the limits of a hurried session. In order to
refuse graciously, it is necessary to show that the
refusal is the result of careful consideration. Gifts
cannot be made oith too much alacrity—refusals
must be reluctant to be respectful; but whether the
Legislature of a great county; gives or refuses, it is above
all things necessary that it act ;Yith forethought and de-
liberation. Next comes Lord John's strange argument,
that Sir Robert Peel is bound by the Speech prepared
by him, Lord John, and his colleague.• If this argu"
e of Ministers
mint *ere permitted to prevail, no chang-
office could
would be ever practicable ; for the men in 1'
oustem
ld be
always contrive so to tie the hands of such as s..
called to succeed them. as to continue their own si
indefinitely—a slavery not to be submitted to by an,"
honourable men.

NEWS OF THE PRESIDENT.
The following letter, from an intelligent and trust-
worthy corresoudent, will be read with interest, as ap-
parently throwing some light upon the fate of the Pre-
sident :

149

" To the Editor of the Vindicator. •
" Sir—On arriving in Belfast, from _Brazil, I first saw
the announcement relative to . the loss of the President
steamer, and, as anything, however remotely connected
with that vessel, must be interesting to your readers, I
hasten to lay before them the following facts, which
came under my own immediate observation during the
homeward-bound passage :--On August 29th, or there-
abouts! being then in the vicinity of the Azores, my bro-
ther, who was amusing .hitnselt on the maintop, observed
in the distance what lie co2sidered to be a boat exposed.
tYty his announcing the circumAance below, the captain,
aftef guirveying the object with Ills glass, ordered the
ship to lle tsk On approaching ,nearer, we d was
the beams erect
the side of an name se vessel, hav,..71, All hands
resembling masts, the otiser side was aw:';v.
concurred in opinion that it was the wrec: of a large
the hulk
steamer. It may or may not hare been part of , ,we
of the President. If, as has been conjectured, the aC-
mentioned vessel struck on the ice of Newfoundland,
is highly probable that the great Atlantic current, which
sets in from the north during the summer, may have
drifted the ill-fated 314 thus far to the southward. At
all events, it was the wrceh of a very large vessel, and
may .et, prove disastrous to any crew who may hays the
).i.i.sfortune to run foul of it during the night.
" I am, Sir, your's, &c.
•' VINCENZO GUERRIN'I."

COgNigSION OF LUNACY.
Yesterday a comriiivoi of lunacy was opened at the
gwan.ilin, Old Bromptogi before the Chief Commis-
sioner, Mr. Phillimore, and Commissioners Winslow and
NV'riti to inquire into the state of mind of William Au-
gustus Of wton, Esq., a solicitor, formerly of South-
square, Grgl'u-kin. and Amersham, Bucks, and now an ,
inmate of Messrs, Zniol's lunatic asymp3, Cowper-house,
Old Brompton.
Mr. Wakefield, Queen's Cowls 1, of the CharCPry bar,r.
attended in support of the corm) ion ; and
Heaton, of the Queen's Bench, on behalf of Mr. Newton.
The Learned CHIEF CommissioNEß having directed
the attention of the Jury to the points for their con-
sideration,
Mr. V akefield observed that he attended on this me-
lancholy occasion on behalf of the wife Newton,
at whose instance the commission had been sued out, and
it would be most satisfactory to that lady's feelings if the
result of this inquiry should be the establishment of her
husband's sanity.
Mr. Cyrus Alexander Elliot eaminel—l kew Wil-
liam .A.ugustus Newton. I first beanae acquaintd with
him on the 12th of November, 1839. He was then in
very excited state, and 1 saw him in his garden, at
a
& mersham, 13ucks, running up and down without his
h.ll then two attendants with him ; he was
-wish:nem, Cowper-house, upon the
lie has remained under our
with him daiiy, and
-ed to the
1-^ttle

The vot was Oen agreed to-

-"7 rnr the half pay allow•-

'I he next vote Was a sum of 23,trvu..
tlncrs and contingencies of the Commi,sariat Department.
The next vote %, as a sum of 54,000/. to complete the sum re-
quired to &fray the expente of the insurrection in Canada.
Mr. J. JERVIS suggested that the consideration of the vote
be postponed to Monday nest.
Sir R. PEEL did not object to the vote being postponed.
He did ri;:t think it unreasonable that any Hon. Gentleman
should, at that late hour of the night, and after the lengthened
discussion which had taken place, propose the postponing the
.vote to Monday.
The vote was accordingly postponed.
The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and asked leave
to cit again, and the House resume].
ADMINISTRATION or JUSTICE BILL.
On the =wild rcw.lkoz of this Bill bring proposed,
The SPEAKER sai,i that it contained money clauseE, which
would requite atten.tte consideration.
Sir R. PEEL said that such being the case he would
wild-
draw the Bill, with a view to the introduction of another. t
The Bill-was then withdrawn.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and.the
goose adjourned at Half-past Uleven o'Clock to Monday..

coat. ' .
to our t
..-
removed n.—
e,!•rtitlaW of Dr: IltunEey, ah—
aie 0.;214 ,flow. I bate converseu ~
Ile has . tvld me that he formerly belm.b
navy, and had served under Nelson at the ~..
of Trafalgar. lie has stated that he was on,
board the Euryitlus, It flag frigate, employed to
carry signals round the fleet, when the vessels were
at a distance. While so engaged, he bearded
dawne
vessel, ran up the mast, and taking down the
colours, lie wrapped them round his body. He then re-
turned to his own ship, but received three wounds in his
gallant enterprise; one he described in his forehead,
Nvilero he certainly has got a scar ; another on his finger,
a scar ; and.
i A iik-lit h4),,::1i0 11a.....:,the thrd he told me was
ina,k by a boarding-o,:e bv.ing-
-1
thrust: through 111113,which entered his naval and mule, an, inch and a half
sear
out
of his. back. .I examined his back, and finding no
there 4 ~mentioned, it to him, and he said that the wound