The Sun.
London, England, 1847-01-20 00:00:00

ilcatlidsblieanb!itte."-IT------air...d v.7herih: had the proper documents
ltessions
°ftl but
.ith the view of replyipg to one or two ex-
'ldeseryett the Neble Lord, whieh he thoug,ht were rather
part of the Government. It had not been
measures of relief were brought forward,
.),t te 't
d' wilco
w°t would have
14, and "I'' have teen that extraordinary demand for
totattam that extraordinary precipitancy' which led to the
ti'll''' '''',"," herainde undertaking of works manifestly
.use-,
ntr,dbro:tiuheeeti the measure he repudiated
et,,i et tha u
heeate.diohoeuttle.n.dertneake seless, instead of useful work,
tensidered that roads could nut
1,% to irn °I as useless. The object was to give employment,
isisobilinrdertparkoev%heee.ountry, as also to stimulate the landlords
i 'Lor did improvement of their own estates. The
deg hi_
.. not question the Act of Lord Besborough, who,
ltoper,euusell in the House when the Act was pissed, thought
IsinO.,,,exterid the Government advances to those who might
lead to to undertake works of another kind He was also
~. eereei,,, that th Noble Lord didapprove of the
o roety of e
ritt alter . aseetremog
if Is 15 ration, _Parliatment to give legislative effect to
He egreed with him that the resilient gentry
irese'oete'd were much better employed in Iceland, where their
tlse to was so necessary to encourage, to regulate,
at, to Promote employn'ient - and he had no hesita-
ttee e, sa)ing that' had' they riot been present,
ilsoi"euld. tut have been tii:tt alleviation of the
it iii that"hwhiri their prese.nce caused. But the Noble Lord
Ithith F,, c, was net prepared to disapprove r f the measure
tbeOt th'i•: '`lale,te's Government intt tided to bring forward to
'Illesto; 'tale of chines. He did cot intend to go into the
(in" " °I the refits; which would attend the removal of the
tot oOn the importation i t foreign corn, hut the question was
411447° the profits lay, but what would add to the amount of
trot oe'°(lntider the most terrible visitation which the country
Ilene ''in'ased. No coneitiera•iou of the kind would ever in-
the f nirn-uot even if 'every shilling went into the pocket of
of t'lireigo grower. Did the-Noble Lord not know the state
l'llatete.e country, He was not ;Isbell-led to say that
k,ent, IF ,fltight be the wisdom of the Leeielature in its
he fore
utilerto, end whatever might be its wsdom, either
ter ( or since the late Corn Ac, he mould stand by it, if it
I,ooo'nlY for the purpose of bringing 100,000, 10,000, or even
11,0,4
in
of corn into this cOuntry. The mass of the
tedtt° in Ireland were dependent on the potato for support,
siotilduatt having failed
n during the last two or three months, it
pit ttt °‘e impossible to feed them, wilhout an increased
with
alleviate the sufferings of five or six millions of people.
etii,"t reference to the introduction of sugar into distilleries, he
tiroes,,Y that it would be a permanent measure. At the same
the
measure,
believe d that when the Noble Lord came to look at
to "sure, he would tied that it had been made with a view
alwaysbenefit the revenue ; and, at the same time, it would riot I
noel. be
the interest of the parties to employ sugar instead of
With regard to the navigation laws, that would
t b
that .e a permanent measure ; but still, he thought
it would be for the interest of the country
15 r •
Leh, eCr've corn as France did, viz., from vessels not
Rioel'ging to the country, or to the country in which corn was
t,"ns Ile, therefere - 'tru:ted that they would not immedi-
ately 'LI' 4 laws ' the‘ I • •.ion on the importation of
„._
into _ppm. the on r.t s i•lc.
wish
„„i's. this country. Ile did not .to enter upon the
cetion as to whether or not the Goaertnmth, ntstrantiegt,i):t
Inreo-t
1:11d, prcvidrVdsoane better
was,
tom ena,seuerteishtios
question shortly. But
.h,' Couldpre not help entering upon the question, as it had been
:bided to by the Noble Lord When the Noble Lord (Stanley)
had brought political economy to bear on this subject, he was
bringingg‘ this science forward in its most vincible point. lie
hnl ett glit; unr!cr all the circumstances, he m.st repeat what
stated, chat the Government
Lad bad already .
the cout se they had pursued.
It ttaacted iw'selye in
that they could nut purchase enoogh
of
grain,sstateo,
. but 11.1i1;t"t:',eeyz, would endeavour to equalise and regu-
latei the supply in such a on av as to produce the least possible
the and it would hereafter be his duty to state to
-ee Route the ;manner and the extent to which depots were
et:Latilv,ishied under that proinise There was one other point
tqn. 1 :eh he wished to. toucl.; before he sat down, namely,
l','%.irit winch related to the recentproceedings in foreign
~,`,t, ; His Nob .e Friend opposite ail eeemed to assume that
:"'n. chance in the Ministry, a, change,in the foreign policy
Ass brought about. But his .Nobie Fri tid was‘ mistaken. The
Ztol.lo policy of the present Government was identical w'th
lb
of her Al • -
Przuodeui:enti ajesty's latei
advisers,
. and hereafter he vrotaid
documents connecter.
,wtt_itthe subject, which would
taatters y. satisfy their Lordships that, ineeritsilation to foreign
guided by the
,a__ ~. the present Government had b
Ile did not wish to
tan'el principles as those of the former.
,oi,_ ',lily other use of pursuedm ex,cailit, to vindicate the
he admitted that
rt ~__Leys government had ; and,
thought
tnecessary for the peace and wwe',faetrteie of Europe, he
breach of a
treat the recent proceeding involved
Ile
Y which ought never to be reliuqulshed. —( Hear, hehar.)
, wished to suggest to the Noble Lord that the less t ere
liCjf angry debate on this subject, the more speedily were they
hopedeto come to a termination, more happily, it was to be
oulot to resume that feeling which from year to year, he
se ' ,a) front day to day, he hoped to see paramount ; he
"aotiulfd b e
glad to see such a feeling established on a firm and
it" ' act°ry basis.— (Cheers.) In the present state of the na-
te'', and even after what had happened, he was not prepared
tiedrY that even then there was any impediment to a good
whterL'tanthng with the Government of France in any object
He 'night be useful to the one country or the othei.
I.olls_felt it necessary to say this after what had
13eotnti from the Noble Lord, and he did not ex-
can, 'at Ile would seek to administer an amount of pain or
lauzirsartel to any Member of the Government, for such 'ilea-
might have passed having done so, it was
be
ea, e that the further consideration of this matter should
and frrlied on in such a manner as to give no offence to another
Other tetti'.dlY cauntry. ,requiredli riot know that there was any
"the Non'g on which he to observe in the speech
que,tio hie Lord. He did hope to be pet mitted when these
tieetedilwsitZate before the House, to go into the facts con-
the affairs
Ireland, and
more particularly into the question of
d the, count,rya,n(tiohe
:.ls'autir,aencan
toltheennt, theese questions felt that it would be due to this
give the utmost attention to the
which the Nirble Lord had given this night, that
came to he submitted to Parlia-
f:Cebc;itiQa:hi4.:4:inlttoePri:at:lttorrii°. t his
~inatsentaionareto offer them any
. might be introduced would in some degree interfere with
that the measures
, but when submitted to their Lordships they
N'':1,11(1, Letritere the greatest co-operation on the part of all
spirit t ° da, they would require to be considered in a cordial
tine effne(e.trder th2t their aim anti end mcglit be fully carried
‘'lleti he • But he besseed to be further un lerstood, that
rc,,, tp 'Poke of interiering with certain interests he did not
*leo, s-aY that the right.: of iroper'y, the preservation of
„tar
is niviolate, formed the vel • best. ' safe-guard for public
Idtavtaaralsteaapgnilostayle,ii,o,.3:•der should be
allinjured,because the
at]d,,eonlusioi:aOUld te gstve an undue
was hi, r ciss at thew expense ot the other.
lons, intention on Monday next to move for
.tjeati;a,r,.,:s,::..Ot.t which Cu) found sonic measures. which her
`leeree the distress
considered might ameliorate in a great
Lord,,,,T,s)teess at present prevailing in Ireland.
ie_,re.ri
seamatittilnUtin AM
.saiirl, that in hisexiperience of thirty-
etslasure h . inperla Parliament he tld not recollect the
Ind the (so,: have tnet, and the Crown to have addressed them,
ly neeessar e grave
sot.:,„,anzninent to have come together, under circum
importance than the present. It was
arid ~,„._ yto mention Ireland to bid all agitation cease,
remarks which
thoeut,d"lnYal°elnerinof
.rno..argchy to be hushed into silence. He
to their Lordships it.sions of cordiality or moderation in
lie should feel it necessary to address
ooditma in which that evening, for they were now in that
speech on the one side was
for
""indt y, which
‘...esing the
utnwst
.was. met by a speech on the o t_
7,111 a different is hi • cordiallty, yet, at the same time, .
filled
madethecralleinxg-
ivreading himself
neon
rit. He owed an apology, perhaps, for In-
,n, t in , ek:, _ I,ton their notice at all, but he conceived,
',rust 0, or.e';`.‘sd hke this, when party animosities should be
that it was the deli; and the
, good of the empire only considered,
Power, to lay
012- ,°,`,!orry man, to the utmost extent in his
ceivett were fur th' things before the country which he con- .
ground e country's
that It benefit. It was simply on that
aPide they, ordinea now stood forward. Ile wished to lay
before he proccederyd 41"Pir's which lay immediately in his way
estrous, ,-,,,,iiion
of ,0 consider the lamentable, not to say loi,a-.
ot be satisfied withthe sister kingdom. Though he
_mitr.",
. not altogether the measures of the Govert.ment, he ettO
r bla
happened, he
did 7 them for their policy, but, as events hadd
straw, had
the
In net know that it would riot have been
Hee-
Nueeived that )t'sin met
for business at an earlier period,
could he eas,, , - Impoliey of the measures of the Ministry
Act Wa. ~ 11) aseertained,--lirst, that the Irish Labour .rate
Lient ' lound to be a great failure;•
, enant had confirm '
Uouehere's I trona thatthird, that . r. M La-
ru,ey
whidetter ed it ; and, lastly, that the million of .
Derative, ' i W. 49 voted last session was found to be quite ino-
nos meta
„All this was a ground of regret that they had
Prseent,little earlier, when those disasters might have been
hi 'd• tie differed f, that sat beside
• rn the, fs.otn the Noble Lord
h rts
open. ~_ at', that he (Lord Brougham) would have t e po
the eiewut he woeld concede to that Noble Lord, that under
- o canoe - they had
only is. , aw, when wheat rose to sOi. a quarter,
the, had duty to pay ; whereas, under t corn-law,
he new corn
th ~ 45. to pay. Under these circumstances, g
hay the Ports ought to be opened. Agreat deal ofdiscussion
taken 1
of , ~ . .
hatio I, ace, in consequence their relations with foreign
bete," being endangered by the policy pursued by a neigh-
_•nicg, nation ; anti it was Binhallege tat the people of
ass'ur country felt deeply interested the matter. He
i take ed
their Lord-hips there could be no greeter mis-
„:, lie believed that the wives and daughters of this
e°—“l'Y cared as much
*out for these royal marriaees as they
i d tor one in Le Verriers' newly discovered panet, if the
inhabitants •
eintants there married, or were given in marriage. He
i /iould farther remind their Lordships that when one of the
most politic monarchs, who ever sat upon the English throne,
tet,great William, had embroiled the country with a conti-
nental Power, leading to a campaign unequalled in the annals
°'; British history, until excelled by the most splendid victories
of the Noble ;nil Gallant Duke who sat beside him, the
great Marlborough was obliged, through the apathy of the
' r°Ple of this nation, to retire from a country which he had
' greatly glorified, lie was well aware that the same
apathy p. evaded on the continent as in this country.
A good understanding was always valuable to the people of
both countries, and that it ought, therefore, more to be encou-
raged, The breach, therefore, that had taken place was deeply
to be lamented, because the good understanding that had. pre-
viously existed, was the precious oil which relieved the friction
I of the machinery where the interests of the two natians came in
contact with each wher. in teed, these centacts became points
of friction, and the preservation of the entente cordiale was of
intititte value ; because, as he had said before. it was the obvious
means of relieving the friction, andpreventing collisions. He
lamented that any thing should heyeti dto
pit any thin
in the way of the continuance or tha't happened
understand-
ing
the ruption would be
much shorter than was anticipate& being, thoroughly con-
vinced of its utility, being, thoroughly persuaded, of his personal
knowledge, of the great desire and ardent wish which pre-
vailed in France, that the best poisible undemanding should
' once more be established between the two countries and he
fully expected that nothing would hereafter occur to prevent
such a consummation.—( Hear, hear.) Nl'ith regard to the
I threatened delettes upon this subject he did hope and trust
they would have none, because while it could tend to serve
gin ,0,,a e..d or purpme, debating the subject
Wright very possibly have • , the effect of diverting their
attention from more preying measures or plans for alleviating
the distress and sulT2ring of Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) He
trusted, therefore, that he should hear no more of the subject.
The I -lerstAra in, i' , had, ie fact, mile been broken up in
'e gook un,
tone ant in substance, and, if the nia' ter were dropped, things
would soon resume their furnace aspect.—( Hear, hear.) Per-
-lal's their Lordeinis would now permit him to say a
'ew owrds welt regard to Cracow. Now, they stood
00 a different foot iu,, towards Russia than to France,
410 t Ihe Minister of'' the day was not justified in
‘1'1"1:( strong exprcs-ions towards the former without he
was prepared to irillow it up with teher steps. But on no oc-
casitio ought a Minister to use language of vituperation to-
wards another state, wiles he were prepared to go further. It
!" not Oily the duty, but, under certain circumstances, Go-
',en-intent was batted to protest agetrist particular measures of
a foreign power. The Sleeeeh, in fact, in the present case did
rates its a proper tone against the recent proceedings of
ussia
- , Prussia and Austris, with regard to Poland. He
' considered the proceedings were not '-.6 I even by the de-
ene justi e. .
.e set up for them ; becauseeven eosin, Cracow to be
s , sup .
tile dung,
had - ,7 state it had been represented to be, these Powers
no right to take she , • into their own
lae
handl. Fnelet I I France' '
and
before penaltythe'r' arlif( t
of nations ougl tto ll'
was
he-n.)l Next to -
h,11,,,,hel to silo with thet,riqudesttibone,
t...,a
b. ;,.,,res bon
ten appe l l a.eo to on the subject.—
(Hear,
with prance
it mitt:taller 6 g
to belaw
i , a God understanding
was of the if most importance for this
upon terms of amity with Au t .
country
Austria.—(Hear, ria.—(Hear, hear.) The