The Sun.
London, England, 1841-03-16 00:00:00

EVENING EDITION

He did not be-

Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
live there were any material errors in it.
After a few word: from M,. G. W. HOPE,
M. DIVETT said it must be obvious to all that there
had been some error committed in the. financial manage-
ment of the co!ony, but he believ,.!d full value had been
reccived for all that had been expended, notwithstanding
the want of discretion which the Governor had diiplayed.
It appeared to him that the resourc-,s of the colony had
I;en very much underrated. He had seen letters from
farmers who had enngrat2d from his part of the country,
in which it was stated that the land was of the very finest
deie,iptian, and h believed that the number of emigrants
would be much greater if they only knew how prosperous
these farmers and lab,urers tie e after a twelve months'
rcsidenco. He had lit•l3 doubt that in a very few years
that colony h
would be the empoim of a great part of
Awtralit. Under these ciecumstsnces, he trusted that
th-re would be no opposiii ma to the motion of the Noble
Lord.

The resolution was tl:ea withdrawn, and the Report or,
dere.] to In received on Friday.
ORDNANCE ESTIMATES—REPORT.

Sir H. VIVIAN moves that the Report of the Com-
mit:ce of Supply on the Ordnance Estimates be received.
eptain BOLDER() rose to call t'e attention of the
'lssue, and the Master Gzneral of the Ordnance, to the
(xpense ineurte Iby Gre B. itain in furnishing arms, &c.,
to the Grand Seignior. In 1840, the sum taken for
Ordnance stores was 207,090/ , wild: the eitimate for the
r.s:ent year was 328,000/., making a difference of
121,0001. on account of that one item. What was
the sum now required by the Government ? 241 000/.,
hile the average for the years 183 t, 1835, and
39, had been 65,000/., and the House was in tota! igno-
rance of the cause of so large an expenditur-. It was de-
:sable that the House shJuld know this. Ile supposed it
would be said, a groat part of it was incurred in support-
ing our policy in Syria. He fund that the Sultan had
been suppled with 24,000 stand of arms for the Syrians.
Ile thought, considering the serv:ce ald assistance that
had been renderei to him, the Sultan should pay a portion
of the expenses. It m'ght be said this was the policy of a
n :sisl of shopkeepers, but the great man who termed us so,
reeer assisted a forei4a power and taxe 1 his own subjects
to pay far it. We had the largest fleet in the Mediterra-
nean tint was ever in that sea, and the expense of it would
fill entirely upon ourselves. Our expenses we -e upwards
of a million, at the moat mederwe calculation.
_Suppose one fleet had been destroyed what would have
been the consequence ? Here they went on year after
year increasing expense ; and, as far as he knew, to no
terpssc, and for no cause or objoc'. lie thought the
Thuse ought to be infji med on these subjects, and he should,
therefore, move for a return of the correspondence be-
te eon the Government and the Porte with respect to the
expenses of the late operations in Syria.
Sir H. VIVIAN said he shoul 1 confine his answer to
the Hon. Gentleman to subjects immeliately corrected
with his own department. He had no hesitation in saying
that, in the last few years, the expenses of that depart-
ment bad greatly increased ; and if the Honourable Gen-
tleman had bees in the House a few nights
vg s, he would have heard the causes explained. One
great item was the adoption of percussion caps. With re-
spect to the Ordnance expenses in the Syrian expedition,
the Sultan had been furnished with 24,000 stand of arms,
wiJi a proportionate quantity of ammunition, which be
was to pay for. He should not enter into any discussion
as to the policy of that expedition, but he pledged himself
that if the Hon. Gentleman should bring forward a specific
-motion on the subject, some one of his colleagues would
be prepared to justify it.
There was no objection to the motion.
EAST INDIA RUM BILL.

Mr. BERN AL brought up the Committee on the Eas'
I2dia Rum Bill.

Mr. LABOUCHERE said, in consequence of what
Lai been said of some ambiguity in the wording of the
B.r, be hal consulted some persons competent to form an
()pinion on the subject, and though they thought the
clauses as they stood wore sufficient, they thought
there would be no objection to the introduction of
other words. He therefore proposed in the preamble
after the word " charter" to insert the words " into which
the importation of foreign sugar is or shall be hereafter
prohibited," and after the word " any" to insert the word
"sues," IF, these amendments were adopted, the 2d
clause would become surplusage.
Mr. G OUL BURN said he thought it would still be
necessary to retain the second clause.

),Ir. CABO UCH E E siid he did not think so; but
it night stand if de ired. He now came to what he con-
ceived to be a more important point. He had stated on a
former occasion that he conceived it was important whether
in point of fact sugar was made in the East Indies to any
extant worth not'ce from any other mat rial but the sugar
cane. Judging from the evidence before the East India
Committee, he was led to believe that all sugar exported
was bona fide the produce of the sugar cane, and that in
limiting it to that, they were doing ell thet the East
Indians asked. But it was stated that at Ben-
gal, if they excluded sugar made from the date
tlley would make the Bill of no avail. He had taken
pains to be informed of the facts of the ease, and be-
lieved there was some exaggeration in saying that if they
excluded the date there, and only admitted the produce of
the sugar-cane, they would not confer a great benefit.
Ea understood that in Benares the date trees bore no
fruit, and that all sugar made there was the produce of the
sugar-cane • but in Bengal Proper the date trees grew in
great numbers, and sugar was made indiscriminately from
the thee and the sugar-cane, end the nature of the manu-
facture was such that it would be impossible to tell
u'aether the sugar was made from the one or the other.
was confident that whenever sugar was imported from
India it would be date-tree sugar as well as sugar the
produce of the cane. On these grounds, and believing,
ho diJ, that the date-tree sugar was even now intro-
duced into this country, and that it was impossible to dis-
tir.guish it from the other, and wishing to afford encou-
ragement to the growth of sugar of every kind in India,
h.: felt he was only acting according to sound principles in
assenting to the proposed alteration. He would, there-
fume, move that the words " or sugar of the date-tree" be
introduce:l into the clause.

Mr. HA WES thcught the West Indies should have no
protection of any kind which was not granted to the
East Indies. He felt that tiesc latter colonies were much
more valuable and important than the other.
Mr. GOULB tiRN would not oppose the motion for
the introduction of date-tree sugar.
The amendment having been agreed to, and the Report
rece:vod, the Bill was ordered to be mil a third time to-
morrow.