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London, England, 1840-01-06 00:00:00

to Jones, and he said to Parry, " Damn you, I'll blow your
brains out, if I hear any
ou mo of y
re our larkI
s"
said
I wou
come when I armed myself somewhere. He said, " I will
wive you a jug." He then went away, and I stopped with
the others till half-past five o'clock on Monday morning,
when we went on towards Newport, for a mile and a half
or two miles from Cress-y-Kylog. I saw Jones standing
talking to two men ; they left him, and went on towards
Newport. There was a man " hitched" up in Jones's
arm, they were walking arm in arm. One of the two men
was called back, and a sword and dagger was given to him,
and he was told to go towards Newport. Jones went out
towards Cross-y-Kylog again, and I went on towards
Newport, and saw no more of him.
Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly—l was at one time a
Chartist. I raised subscriptions for the defence of Vin-
cent. There was no great deal of interest taken in the
subject by the Chartists. There was a subscription
amongst the men on the market day. I subscribed. I
would rather for him to have got off at the time. I can-
\
out tell how long it was before Vincent was tried, but I
received subscriptions for his defence.
John Phillips was the next witness called ; but after an
exerni: ation on the voir dire, and another witness having
spoken as to the locality of his residence, the Court con-
sidered that the description in the list of witnesses was so
far doubtful that he ought not to be examined, and his evi-
dence, therefore, was rejected.
Christoph'er Kichagan examined by Mr. Sergeant
Ludlow—l am a butcher, and live about four miles
from Pontypool, and near Cross-).Kylog. On Mon-
day morning, the 4th of November, I was at home,
and betwren seven and eight o'clock five or six per-
sons same to my house, and took me from W
home. Some were armed, some had pikes, some
hatchets, and some guns. They said that I must come
along
with them. I was not willing to go, but I was taken
by force. One of them pet a spear to me, and they said
'sew would push it into me if I did not come. They put it
1 against my waistcoat. I know Jones of Pontypool, the
i, watchmaker. He keeps the Bristol public-house, at Pon-
' 3001. I first saw him on that day, at Malpas. There
.re between 2,000 and 3,000 persons; I walked among
,ee people. There is a place called Crindanaer, near to
\ the Malpas turnpike. There is a lane going towards Pen-
ylaer, which joins the two roads; the men all went up
*hat lane, from the Pontypool road, towards the Risca
° road. Jones said, " This is the way up the lane,"
That lane leads to the turnpike road which leads from
Newport to Risca. We met a collier coming across
the fields from Newport. He came up to the hedge,
and Jones asked him where he had been. He said he
had been to Newport, and that there had been three or
/ four men killed. Jones said in answer, " Then we are
done." I beard him say so. He said no more. We fol-
lowed him through Penylaer. There we left. The com-
pany dispersed, and I went to Newport. I don't know
whet became of Jones after I left him at Penylaer. A
great msny of the body had arms, guns, pikes, pistols,
and hatchets, and a great variety of weapons.
Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly—l don't know what Jones
did after he said, " Then we are done." After I left him
at Penylaer-maur, I saw no more of him. Going towards
Penylaer-maur from the place where Jones said, " we are
done," is going away from Newport. Penylaer-maur is
about a mile and a half distant from Newport. I suppose
where I was taken from, was about six miles from Cross-y-
Ky log, and we went about six miles. It might have been
more altogether. It might have been upwards of two
hours while we were going. I made a deposition on oath
that, while I was going with the men , I did not know what
ee were going to do.
iZ...-exemined by Mr. Sergeant Ludlow—The road upon
which e c were proceeding would have taken us to Newport,
if ee had not turned up the lane at Malpas turnpike.
J ihn Mathews, examined by Mr. Sergeant Talfourd—
am in the service of Mr. Protheroe, who was a partner of
Sir Thames Phillips. He has a house beside the Mal-
as-turnpike. I was in his service as a gardener. On
Monday morning, the 4th of November, while I was at my
breakfast, a little before nine o'clock, I heard a voice in
the stable-yard. I went out and saw a great number of
men there, some of them had pikes, and some guns, and one
had a hatchet. Mr. Protberoe's coachman was there.
Armed men were about him speaking to him ; on my
coming up, one catches hold of me by my jacket, said " you
must come along." I endeavoured to resist but was not
, able. I dare say there were 160 or 150 men in the yard.
/ I went with them, and while with them, I heard Jones of
I Pontypool inquired for. I was rather before him, and if he
( was not immediately in sight, the people were inquiring for
)him. I saw him walking amongst them from time to
time, but I did not see him do anything. There was
ii person of the name of Aust. I went with them to the
1 lislalpas gate. There's a road which goes from the Pon-
! typooi read, across the canal, and then there is a lane
which leads to the Risca road, a short cut from the one to
1 tiae other, without going through Newport. There were
some people at the gate who cheered ns up the lane. I
‘, saw Jones in the lane. He halted before we got up to the
; end of the lane. Some persons who had been at the
/ Westgate came and gave intelligence that they had at-
/ ticked the Westgate and had been defeated. I saw Jones
at that time. The mob then gathered round and were
I conversing with him, or he with them, but what they were
speaking about I cannot say. I got away into Newport.
' Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly--I was nearly two hours
with the mob, when the intelligence was received, and
etood for a little time, and when I could I made my escape.
I went into Newport Some of the mob at that time wore
sitting down, some were standing, and some were going on
towards Risca.
Richard Pugh examined. by the Attorney-General-1
keep the Coach and. Horses at Blackwood. I have kept
t nine years next March. I know Frost, the prisoner at
.ho bar by sight. I know Zephaniah Williams and Wil-
l:am Jones, of Pontypool. The watchmaker I saw the
. Wednesday before the disturbances at Newport. Mr.
Frost was at my house on the Friday. Zephaniah Wil-
liams and William Jones were also at my house on Fri-
day, as nigh as I can recollect, between eleven and
twelve o'clock in the forenoon. They were all together
at the same time. They were in the long room, as we
call the place up stairs. There were also some per-
sons who were strangers to me. They left the house
between five and ail o'clock in the evening or night.
as I can recollect. They had been together in the
, room. tThere were thirty altogether is the room
as nigh as I can understand. There were no orders
wien as to people going in. I did not see them deny
ary body, nor hear of it, and had not seen the strangers
I before that Friday. They had no refreshments in
the room. I do not know who the strangers were
nor whence they came. It was not stated in the
presence of Mr. Frost, Williams, or Jones, the watch-
maker, in my hearing, who the strangers were or whence
they came. My customers go into that house when there
is not room below stairs. The house was full that day.
There was a Chartist lodge in my house, which was esta-
blished about eight m nine months ago. The Chartist
lodge met in that room. The time of meeting was Mon-
day evening. This meeting on the Friday was not a re-
gular ine,tine of the lodge. The prisoner and Williams
~ad Jones lett the house at the same time, or nearly. I saw
no more of the prisoner on that day, but he was at my
;mew perhaps for an hour. or a little more, on the Satur-
day ,v, ning. I was not in the roorr, and cannot tell who
.ass with him. I saw no more of Zephaniah Williams, as
Ihr as I can recollect, from Friday evening until after
she disturbances took place. I saw Jones after it
glass
gettin; dark on the Sunday evening. He had a
I e( trends,' and water at my house, and left between
ey ann six o'clock. The first time I saw Mr. Frost on
! the Surxt."9 evening was, as it was getting dark, between
six and seven• He had a glass of beer; I did not stop
above ten enatites. There were a sight of people coming
~,,s; going oer all the time. Nut one of them that I saw
was armed. The people continued coming in and going
out about an hwur and a half. I heard nothing more that
eight. I heers.l people going by almost all night. I could
net judge ih what ,erection they were going. I remained
iti doors on the Fsidav, whilst the persons were in the long
room on the Fiiday. Ido not remember any persons going
i.n besides the stranger,' and the persons I have mentioned.
' Cross-examined by Six F. Pollook—Blackwood is about
1, tan, 'en miles from Newport. I knew the persons of Frost,
Jon hse, and Williams. I did not know any of the other
people, except a man of the name of Boswell, who was se-
cretary t i the lodge.
The Jul
• : crs.s and Jury here retired to take some refresh-
ment, on titesie. return
Edmond Li,
eied was called and examined by the Attor-
„ey_Ge„raie_f icep the Royal Oak public-house at
Black wood. i krkeav John Frost, the prisoner at the bar,
and Zephaniah Willis saes. 1 know Jones, the watchmaker,
by eight. I never sa v Mr. Frost in my house. I saw
or four times in the week before
:um iu Blackwood three •
Iliam's horse was put up at my
the riots. Zephaniah Wi.
iiouse either for three or fc hts during that week.
I cannot recollect what nietifithr:i - g
it was when he was
taken away by Zephaniah N. villiams. I cannot tell the
(I.ty of the month, but I believe the three days that the
horse was there were Wednesday, . Thursday, and Friday.
\ls. Jones was at my house shout th e middle of that week.
, The Thursday or Friday Zephaniah Williams and he came
er, but they took no
1 in together, and talked to one aniath
refreshment.
:The witness was not cross-examined.
e'eseph Stockdale examined by the Soli( sitor-General—l
. the 4th of No-
live .+ .Aberystwith. I remember Sunday,
ember, before the riots at Newport. I was i leer Zephaniah
There were a
Willi/in:ate house on the Sunday morning.
T o'clock. He
I great maey people there between five and sis
spoke to me about going to the hills, and told
me me to,bring
tnat I
/ a weapon of some sort with me. He told
should meet vet lb 14,000 mere on the bills. , ie did not
He did
say anything about where arms were to be got.
inot tell me anything about weapons, where the., ' we" to
be bad or not. I did apt go to the hills. N ot cross-
examined.
i William Henry Williams' examined by the S llicitor-
(
General—l know Mr. Crosetiold very well. I was in
partnership with him some time ounce. He is a co, Isider-
.able dealer in gunpowder, and supplies the mine ws very
i considerably with that article: He has 1,000 bar eels in
the year. He has a warehouse in the bocough of Ne ;wort.
Cross-examined by Sir F. Pollock— I was in
He him about nine or ten yeaa's ago. He is
nen l'iP
„iii a. `IVC. I have since then known of his sending i. a ,aru.:l
oat powder. What brought The to this pl. ace
t delivers. ,g
e' was °the.' business. I know nothing of his business' E e-
yond any ,9ne else. The barrel of gunpowde'r isl.oolll 1.
' weight. 'fbey aro always the same weight; b eat I ,neve r
em v one we:gbed.
Moses Surd, examined by Mr. Wightman—,A am one
f of the policeee Newport. I was in Newport on the 4th
% ,of November last. I was present at the attack on the
'Westgate. I saw the crowd that was in front, so, 'ne of
he'sri were armed with guns, others with pikes and .'nan-
is; when the attack was over, I saw the mob disper wing. '
'r
.
I s
.1., ..one man throw away a pike. I saw also weapons lying
%where the mob had been. Witness here, at th a de-
ahet
tile Court, produced some of the arms that bad been
of
found ( rice gun and a sword, and a mandril, pikes, long iron
evened at the end, some well made, but the n tajor
rods, sh
sera of very rough and hasty workmanship., / I
part of tl
also
pioi,e 4. up. one or
_two guns. I found some of the 2 rrel
icing
on ti., 0 line in which the mob was running away,
iup about 250 of those sort of arms. I
&ore I Pic.ret
, those are
powder-houses
in Newport—that is,
know that
weer is kept—one of those places is th. see
places
wheoe pe'
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