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SPECIAL JURORS.

Mr. PEEL said, that he was .-rt;rolus ,tO correct a statement
which had been made, relative to what he had said on the sub-
ject of !Special Jurors, on a former night. lie was reported to
say that he had consulted with persons in the habit of serving
on Special Juries, and had found them willing- to co-operate
with him for the improvement of tile system. He had said no
such thing. What he said was, that he had consulted with the
two persons in the Courts of Exchequer and King's Bench,
whose office it was to return Special Jurors, and that he had
found them anxious to have the system improved.
EARL MARSHAL.

A Messenger from the Lords brought up several Bills agreed
to by their Lordships ; among others, one to enable the Earl
Marshal to fulfil the duties of his office on taking the usual
oaths.

Lord G. CAVENDISH moved the second reading of the
Bill, and expressed himself in terms of the warmest eulogy
towards the Noble Duke who was the subject of the Bill.
Mr. PEEL expressed his acquiescence in the Bill.
Mr. CANNING suggested that the next stage of the Bill
should be to-morrow.
The Bill was ordered to be committed to-morrow.
SOUTH AMERICA.
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Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH presented a Petition from the
Chamber of Manufactures and Commerce in Manchester, pray-
ing the House to recognize the independence of South Ame.
rica. The Honourable Gentleman stated that the Petition was.
signed at a very numerous and respectabbe meeting, and would
have been more so, if it had not been so near the close of the
Session. The Petition goes to say, that to withhold any
Linger countenance from such a Government, would be im-
politic in the extreme. It was certain that the independence
of South America could not be influenced in any way by any
Court in Europe. The Government of England—his Ma-
jesty's Ministers, were pledged to do so one day or other.
On a former night he had endeavoured to shew that it was
sanctioned by every principle of justice, and called for by every
principle of policy. The trades people of England expected,
and they had a right to expect, that the usual protection of the
country should be extended to them in their trade. Ile would
allude to the gallantry of an officer, of whom we should speak
with pride that he was a Briton, and regret that he was no
longer a British officer. , Never did he bear of a more gallant
action than that of the cutting out of the Esmerahla. He pro-
voked no discussion—he looked for no answer—but he hoped
that his Majesty would be advised to restore Lord Cochrane to
the rank he had formerly enjoyed in the British Navy.
Mr. IV. SMITH said, that as long as Spain refused to re-
cognise her ancient provinces, it was necessary for them to
know by whom they were recognised. But when she did so, it
was of importance noolonegheirppwihnorecognised her.—Laid on the
table, and ordered to be -printed.
NEGRO SLAVERY.
Mr. EV.A NS presented petitions from the inhabitants of Sad.
bury, Buckingham, of
Lord SEF.TON presented a similar petition from the Borough
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These petitions were severally ordered to be printed.
STATE OF IRELAND.
Sir F. BURDETT gave notice that he should to.rnorrow
submit to the House a motion on the present State of Ireland.
Mr. GOULBURN moved that there be laid before the
House a copy of the Twelfth Report of the Commissioners
appointed to inquire into the Fees of Officers, and other mat-
ters connected with the Courts of Justice in Ireland.—Ordered.
Mr. S. RICE brought up the Report of the Committee ou
the Suney and Valuation of Ireland Bill. —Ordered to be
printed.
The same Hon. Member moved that there be laid before the
House an Account of the number of Informations filed Lefore
Magistrates at General or Quarter Sessions in Ireland, and of
the number of bills found by Grand Juries in Ireland, for the
years 1821,
1 Qu
1821,la1.ter
822,_asnesdsilo8n2s,3 ; also an account of the number of
Civil Bills heard before Assistant Ilarristers or Chairmen of
for the same period ; also an ac

-tosrit,uf the number of Verdicts given by Juries at such Ses-
slur's, for the same period.—Ordered,
Mr. HUSKISSON presented a petition from Liverpool, to
repeal the exemption of linen from the operation of the ware-
'housing system. The Hon. Gentleman said, that he did not.
intend at this period of the Session to provoke discussion on the
-subject, but he should hail the day when the Manufacturers
should petition Parliament to prevent this obstruction, and that
the people of Ireland would view it as they ought to do.
Mr. J. SMITH hoped the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Huskis-
.son) Gould bring this question forward on some future occasion.
Mr. 11U1111; hoped that the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Huskis-
son; would pledge himself to bring in a Bill on the subject

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next Sessiori. •
Laid on the table, and ordered to be printed.
Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition from a person nam-
ed John Phillips, formerly a letter-carrier to the Post-office,
complaining of having been dismissed from his situation.—
Laid on the table.
CATHOLIC CHAPELS IN IRELAND.
Mr. J. SMITH rose to present a petition from the Rev.'
Michael Collins, a most respectable Catholic Clergyman, Parish
Priest of Skibbareen, in the County of Cork, Ireland.
The petitioner stated that the parish under his care contain-
ed a population of 10,000 souls, more than 9,000 of
whom were so poor as to have been obliged to accept of
charitable relief during the late season •of distress in Ire-
land. The petitioner vouched for the loyalty and good con-
duct
of his flock, but complained of the delapidated state of the
chapel in which he officiated, and to repair which his poor pari-
shioners were unable, partly from their being compelled to pay
for the erection and repairs of the church of the established re-
ligion. In that complaint of the petitioner he (Mr. J. Smith)
fully concurred, for nothing could be more unjust than to tax
people to support a religion to which they did not profess, and
f••obri which they received no benefit. He assured the House
the utmost reliance might be placed upon every allegation of
the petitioner, who he had the pleasure of knowing and corres-
ponding with during the period of the late distress in Ireland.
Mr. C. HUTCH I NSON bore testimony to the respectability
-ef the petitioner, and warmly recommended the petition to the
attention of the House. _

The petition was ordered to be printed.
IRISH CORPORATION BILL.
Mr. BROUGHAM moved the second reading of the Irish
Corporation Bill.
Mr. PENDERGAST objected to the passing.of so serious
and important a measures, at so advanced a period of the Ses-
sion. He would, therefore, as an amendment, moved that the
Bill be read again that day six months.
Mr. BROUGHAM admitted the force of the objection ; the
question was certainly'one of great importance ; he wished to
see it taken up by some Honourable Member more acquainted
with the subjects to which it related.
The amendment was then put and carried.
CUSTOMS AND EXCISE BILL.
Mr. HERR lES, on the commitment of the Customs and
Excise Bill, explained the objects which were aimed to be ar-
rived at by the measure. It was a subject of general complaint
that the present system of Revenue Laws was very complicated,
and it would be most desirable and useful to simplify them.—
There were no less a number than 2,200 Statutes ; of these
`1,700 were repealed, and.6oo still remained, which it was now
endeavoured to comprise in eight bills, which he would now
beg leave to move for permission to introduce.
31r. W. s,-,,HTH said there was at present an unnecessary
number of oaths • the consequence was, that they were disre-
garded and shamefully evaded i • in his opinion nine-tenths of
them might with advantage be dispensed with.
.. Mr. BRIGHT approved of the intended simplification of
the Revenue Laws, a measure in his opinion of the utmost im-
portance and necessity.
Mr. HERRIES then introduced eight Bills, relative to the
regulations of the several branches of the Revenue. They were
then ordered to be printed and read again this day two months.
Mr. H UME gave notice, that to-morrow he would move for
considering the First Report of the Committee on Private Bu-
siness, relative to the Standing Orders of the House.
SIERRA LEONE.—CASE OF DR. THORPE.
W. HORTON suggested to Mr. C. Hutchinson the
expediency of postponing the motion of which he gave notice
aSlative to Sierra Leone and Doctor Thorpe, as no steps could
be taken in furtherance of a measure brought forward at so late
a' period of the Session. He therefore would not consent to
gen up the papers with a view of submitting a motion on the
subject next session. The lion. Member was at liberty at pre-
. sent to state his reasons for moving for those papers.
Mr. HUTCHINSON replied. He would proceed with a
statement of the case of Doctor Thorpe, with a view of sub-
nutting a motion on it in the early part of next Session. He
would-not have brought forward the subject in that House, but
that he had failed, after nine years unremitting application,
of a satisfactory observation to his case. Dr. Thorpe
had been appointed in the. year 1802 to a situation in Prince
Ptiward's Island. From thence he was promoted to-a situation
.in Canada, on which occasion he unfortunately had a difference
with the Governor of Upper Canada. In 1809 he was appoint-
ed to the Chief Justiceship of Sierra Leone. He did not go
out, however, to that appointment until 1811. In the dis-
cussion which took place in Parliament relative to him, it was
admitted by Lord Castlereagh, and others, that no charge
"could be sustained against him on account of his dispute with
the Governor of Canada, or any other part of his conduct. It-
was not until long afterwards that charges had been got up
against him, and in the mode of getting it up, and in the diffi-
.. culties as to the procurement of witnesses, Doctor Thorpe had
just reason of complaint. It was not his intention to throw out
aspersions, but it was necessary to state the treatment Dr.
Thorpe met with, as that constituted the ground of his moving,
far the papers on which he intended to ground the motion which
it was his intention to bring forward early in the next session.
Ile thought that throughout this business the Colonial Depart- '
anent had anted in error. It was-arbitrary on the part of the
Governor to dismiss Dr. Thorpe without assigning reasons.
Ile tboaglit the Colonial Department had no right to dismiss
-from his office a person who had filled so high an official situa-
tion, and one who had been highly recommended by a dis-
tioguished Judge (Lord Yelverton.) lie hoped that the lion.
Gentleman would consider this a full notice of motion for the
'Next session.
• Mr. BROUGHAM—It is the fullest notice I ever heard.—
GI laugh.)
Mr. HUTCHINSON—His Hon. and Learned Frien( had
remarked. that this was the fullest notice he had ever heard.
It was full, because the subject was important, and he would
subsequently move the House on that subject, that an humble
address be presented to his Majesty, requesting that there be
laid before the House a copy of Mr. Goulburn's letter, contain-
irg the dismissal of Mr. Thorpe.
M r.W. HORTON conceived it to be unnecessary to discuss
the question twice. He would direct his attention to the sub-
ject, but he could rot accede to the motion.
Mr. HUME conceived that this Gentleman had not obtained
eornpensation, for the case was one of hardship, audit deserved
-to-he reconsidered.
Mr. W. SMITH said, as his Honourable Friend had ab-
staMcd from saying anything injurious to the character of those
1Y Imo were concerned in these transactions,he should abstain from
- uttering anything disparaging to the character of Dr. Thorpe,
but he must say that,..in his opinion, the Colonial Government
were correct in their conduct.—The motion was then negatived
without a division. _