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-)-Aion which ,r)n^97ed in the Virninistvation to
121,a t inahit've qyste,n 3n they had
10-; acted 1---n2ct to tlie Roin^n Ntholics,
bu: stated it to be hisintection to give them his
as.sista any' support, uninfluenced by, any pi-

yate
VANSITTART adverted to the conduct of-
S.)vereign on' a .former occasion, when the
interfeved with his, right to appoint his
iiiri.:.,,terfp:„.,..b-).s:esfifo,ing flint they had:''a right, to,
cd-,;"Z;:•1.1;S-IIA.iii.qty al .:This ;esolu-
t jolt <. as Ctlire to On tite '2 I st.of IkTare,h, and on the
-24th, the-iin§.k4slit.isoisteci tile...ParliaMcnt; to take.
of4lepfzonle on tre subject, a resoluti-,
,on wiisf-fuli.y...iustified'Aly the event. Tie,
fircrt•do.bettei% than react part of an , address
-fi,t)R} :Berks.-Wife Votettontl:at occasion,
senti-
ituihrittlihrst nut4ion.l2 ielitintents.whieh.. he-yet
.thetrproceed-
i:eU Tb' 4, .- an. Address approving-of 411.4 -
".•tedrft-ittteftit...i I tight thitSoverein,pOs,sesses.
Alinisttrs, and deprecating any
trer.:;di itpo that right.- • Such" attempts-
efieottlli9,4ll;;Wouid eortukna,tlie Government of
his poutitry:irorn'the to• the- worst -of alt.fro-
yernmei•cies"-s"-it Would- take -from us a limited
-3\l6tarA,-iy;'and give :us in its _plate a turbulent De-

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TuitToss; lamented -those circumstances.
'which bad withlield-from the services of the counT_
try,. the
...reat,,talerits of• the ru!ght. .Honourable
Lords - Ut2y and 'Grenville. The lion. Baronet
maintained that :the prerogative. of the Crown
.would be ittrzendered into the hands;-of. an oli-
garchy, if the Household Officers were to be plat,.
edentirely.at the disposal- of the Ministers. At
the same tine be meantnothing•.invidious against
the characterS of 'the two Noble Lords who were
the objects of -the late proposals for forming an
extended Administration in -conformity with the
• vote-of this House. With respect to the princi-
ples :upon .which art -Administration.should act at.
the present crisis, be could wit avoid observing
th,A,one 'of the topics upon which the discussion..
-witil those. Noble. Lords proceeded,, namely—the.
Orders in Council, as a:preliminary to the accept-
ance of office; was-ofibetitmot.t.importance. In
(minion; if -those.. Orders wexe.,:ntit repealed,
. this•countty -would in a-few months be in a. dread.-
--ful.situatioo, in--a, situation little short of .a. civil.
Aintr..: As to -the ,Conduct of the Marquis Wellesley,
the aw?s-..no:thing in that conduct to excite
Much _had* betn said of " personal
animoities;!'. but he hselieved,, that as far as re-.
..spected• Abe communication: between. the.- Noble
Mar cis. and •the_. two :Noble LortlS-, there w:is
apersong ihdisposition in the tWo,
Noble Lords to :will the']Ncble-Marquis; and at
fleti TxtorrtentA is•.the-preirent, be thought- per-,
.s o nhl 'feeling s-otight to ha-cf •nothing • to:- do with
patiltc inenv:The sAlvation of their country.shotild,
-be‘,-their 6bject.;.;'lltChoyiett, that notwith
standing whathad,paSsed; the-country-would still
:hays the-. services 4f- the. Noble- Marquis and the
It is lit lion—Oentleinam '(Mr.' Canniing)..' As to
the measures 'which thight:heneeessary.to-be pur-
sued;; if-the war in the. Peninsula was to be carried-
on, be .was for carrying-it forward-on ass extended

• Me: D. GiDDY observed, that when the Address
wrai voted,die.WaS one of .those who concurred in
opinion with the 'Member for Yorkshire, and on
• the presP,nt occasion; when there was most assur-
edly a great sensation excited in the country in
Consequence of thatvote, it became the House to
exercise the trl!.nscendant power with which they
were in' ested . with discretion. ‘lle had'heard
fraai some Gentlemen; • that there Avere extreme
cases when it was necessary, to interpose be-
tween the Crown and the Government,' and by_a
vote of Parliament prevent the thavernment; of the
country from being placed in the hands • *holly of
the Crown.' There could not, -however, be a
more inconvenient mode' of proceeding than-in fol-
lowing up an extreme case of the -kinit alluded to,
by putting a negative On the prerogative. of the
Crown. It bad • been said that this House had
came to a vote upon the necessity for forming an
efficient
.AdministtatiOn upon an extended scale.
Undoubtedly they had so done, but under what
circumstance a notice of the motion had been
only-given the preceding day. At that time an
opinion was'entertained, that the delay of a few
minutes in coming to-the vote, would have given
a; majority against the motion. If',Gentlemenad-
-vetted to what passed on the same evening.
Shortly" after- the division,. they mast be sati.s-
fled; that such would 'have been the fact. if,
!,.--lowever, extreme Cases were to be entertained,
very dictation to the Head of the Executive
' 'wzis in effeettaking the whole of the Government
.intahandslof Parliament. • But the House would
recollect,-that though one bransh of the Legisla-
• ture•lnd, expressed an opinion upon the subject,
' the other. had. not expressed any opinion at all
they had not stated their disapprobation of the
- Ministry. Was this House then to adopt the lan-
. guage•of contront? A Noble Lord had put the
..
question on a ninth better ground for discussion
than the Mover Of the Address. He deprecated
the conduct which brought before the public the
•proccedings in the. negociations for forming an
extended Administration, as highly inexpedient,
and on other occasions as tending to embarrass
the Government. Noi was he aware how those
disens!;ions could have been put forth without in-
- :fringing' the oath, which some of the parties had
ta ken, as Privy Counsellors:, which oath of course
precluded them from divulging.. any thing which
passed between their Royal Master and them-
siolple question now under consi7
• th ration was; whether the present Ministers could
be safely trusted to manage- the affairs of the
Se ate - And in deciding upon that question, the
,-Noule Lord had contended, that a rot. of this
House-bail driven them from office in 1808, and
therefore they were:not competent to manage the
aei,ources of tli.country, to carry on the war,
and wield thcenergieS of the State in this moment
of peril-and of difficulty. But word:+t,ask the.
/.:oole Lord, whether it was not lair to compare
this coniitry with other 'Countries, which ever
Aince the time alluded to, had been wrested from
,the domination of the lawful Sovereigns. Eng-
b ad. had, under the Administration decried by
the Noble Lord, defended the cause of the -Fenin-
stile with credit to herself ? and if it was proper

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must have peen incurred, for great exertioni*tre-
c-I'led for. The' onourabletientleman declared,.
that he should not vote either for the. Address ."of
thelV-?fiL Gentleman, nor the .Amendment
of lip
the interference off;..
'Parliament incompatible With the principles milpa
which he had generally acted.
,At the same-time,
he did not mean to say-that he would•oppose.any
Address which contained expressions that to Lim
appeared Unobjectionable. He expressed his en-
tire confiAehee in the'character of Lord Moira, as
• a man of the strictest integrity and most unble--

mished reputation's •
Mr. TtosE differed in opinion from the Hon.
Baronet, in, hiS view of an oligarchy, for he
thought that if the last' proposal 'of the Noble
Lordigoira had . been accepted, 'namely, of unre-•
stricted power, then,. indeed, the Councils of the
State would have been surrendered into the hands
of a . desperate . and ihnoxibus Oligarchy. Mini-
sters were respoosible for that power: The lion.
Gentleman svho,moved the Address had said no-
thing about secret influence, but he could not deny
that he' bad no-theard of such influence—it had
reduced America, and was now to be formed in a'
Cabinet Lee-rounded by a Cabinet of another de-
scription. It was undoubtedly the prerOgatiee of
the Crown to apßoint the Ministers, but was it
not the duty of this House- to appeal,egainSt. ap-
pointments which were not for the benefit of the
State.? The present Ministers had twice rain=
quislied their offices, confessing thereby their in-
capacity—they were the relics of the Pitt Admi-
nistration, the ramp of tile;. runip of that Govern-
ment. With respect to the-Address, he did not
expect the Hon. Gentleman would have thrown
cold water upon his former Address,-by moving
such .an Address as the present. Bethought. the
House would relinquish their clut,C.,: if they did
not follow the line prescribed in the original vote.
Mr.. JOHNSTONE and Me. GRATTAN rose at the
same time : the call for Ali Grattan was univer-
sal, hut the former caught the Speaker's eye.---s.
The Honourable Gentleman, was anxious to es:-
,
plain his. sentiments, though. happy to hear the
eloquence of the Right Honourable Gentleman
opposite.. The Sovereign, he .observed, had a
clear, acknowledged, and undisputeCLri),-lit.to no-
minate the Household—that was recognized from
the
.Revolution downsvards,, and this he. would
-shew ire utter contradiction to the doctrine main-
tained- by the Honourable Gentleman who had as-
sumed, that when the Officers of .the Honiehold
were appointed .by the Sovereign, the reign • of
secret influence begin to exist, . That-Was a doe-
:which he thought, had. been. long exploded; and
which nonelmt the most vulgae would have 'again
broaelied. :The- .cry . was'. generally raised by a
• party, wherever a combination of talents were.
.ealied-intosthe,serVice Of,the Sovereign. ' It was
:scesehen Isola 13iite was about the Royal Person,
-:anti sight-.has more. weight, when it was re;
'collected that his early connection with his. Ma-
jesty led to such a supposition.- If it ever did
existe that Nobleman might' be, charged with it ;
;hat what was "the fact ; , all the letters which -he
published to the closea'his life completely con-.
.tradieted the charge ; for.' he coMplained•-of the
neglect.-of the Court, and Was' it likely that he
would .have been neglected ?TiThe. cry followed
,the steps ofMr. Pitt and LtsrdGrenville, when they
came into power ; and those Ministers knew that
it was a.merc cry; that it really had no existences_
but that it was the cry. of those Who were disap-,
pointed -of place and of poVeer,;-41e would read a,
list of the various Offices of the Household from
the Revolution to the present time. :In looking
over that list, it would be seen that if matter of
complaint arose as to the influence they possessed,
that complaint was seldom if ever followed by a
change of the Officers, when-anew Ministry came.
into power. In .commencing with the names
he found the Duke of Ormond Lord Chamberlain
from 1660 to the Restoration in 1688 s. then the
Duke of Devonshire was appointed, and he held.
the office till 1707. Passing over some interme-
diate appointments, he found, that in 1724, the
Dule' of -Grafton was appointed,. and continued
in office till 1757, a period of thirty-two years,.
amidst all those changes and various political cols-
flicts. which agitated the country, particularly in
Sir Robert Walpole's administration. The office
was then considered not to be one in which much,
Of political bias was infused. The Lord Steward
of the Household, and the Master of the, Horse
were similarly circumstanced in the,Reign of King
William s the Master of the Horse' was continued
during the whole of it. He now came to the pre-
sent reign, as he did not_seish to detain the House
with going through the list, and he found, that in
1761, Lord Talbot was appointed Lord Steward
of the Household, which office he filled till 1781.;.
during that interval political conflicts were as
warm as at any period, and as much zeal was
'shewn by parties. The Duke -of, Montagu was
made Master of the Horse from 1781 to 1790.,—,
Bat these appointments were acquiesced. in with-
out
cow aint, during all-the political,: squabbles
which then took place, and were not; called into
question, from motives Of delicacy, and a conviction
that the offices were distinct from political consider-
ations. What happened in 1782. At that period
Lord North was compelled to retire, and from
attention to the Sovereign's feelings, the nomina-
tion of one Member of the old Government was
conceded to the Sovereign—for the Chancellor;
Lord Thurlow, was allowed to remain in the Ca-
binet. The divisions and parties which succeeded
the secession of Lord North, at the head of which
were the Marquis of Rockingham and se Earl of
Shelburne, made no objection to the , selection of
the Sovereign. lf, therefore, -the Chancellor was
then suffered to remain, delicacy on the present
-occasion night be attended to—at least it was re-
quired. What, however, was the conduct of the
Gentlemen opposite ? Disappointed of the direc-
tion of the Councils-of the State, the proclamation
of secretinfluence was .soutded from a quarter,
which, if founded in truth, fUrnished reflection on
;the, Esevereign himself. If those to whom the'
communications were made for coming into power
possessed in reality that love' for country for which
he (Mr. J.) had given them credit; they, as true
patriots, would have accepted office, and have en-
deavoured to eshieve for their country those' bless-
ings which they coasidered -*ere necessary. - The
Hon. Gentleman wss prepared to support any Ad-
ministration, having for its object the good of the
. es. ;..slined to sunnort Lord

Moira as Premier, and Mr. Whitbread as Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer; for aniongthe schemes which
had run in his head in respect to the' formation of
an efficient Administration, that was one which
appeared to him as feasible, and likely to be ul-
timately bene6cial to'the 'conntsS. But it seemed
that the, Gents. opposite were not fond of coati:-
tions: The question was, whether tins House was
deter Mined to fotce them into power an,l give
them the- whole -Con:trout ? He was prepared ,to
admit, that there was a seeming inconsistency in
some Gentlemen coming back to office ; but if he
could see any thing better for the ,country, he
would..most readily adopt it) if, not he should
give his support to the present Administration.
He could not think so meanly of them as other
Gentlemen: Had not the Government re-
ceived an accesssion of strength in
.my Lord Sid-
mouth ? Was he not_ a man of integrity' and of
talents, courted by Mr:Pitt, nay even by the "
dents ?" What was the occasion of the difference
which the Noble Lord -had with Mr. Pitt, and
which led to the resignation ? Why this--,ths.t be
would not, in vulgar language, " go through thicls
and thin." He with Mr. Bond fesistedone of tilt
most flagrant jobs that ever came- before Parlia-
ment--the case of the Duke of Athol, and Conse-
quently resigned. It Was not tree that he was
driven front office ignonsinionsty- Ili' that asser-
tion he was justified by what a relation of his had
told hisu—sthe late -Sir W. ridteneys to that re-
spectable 'man the Noble Lord had .stated as his
reasons for quittirig.Office, that he felt he held
office only with the unreserved confidence of his
:Soiereign, that us this contest he found that,Mr.
Pitt and Mr. Fox were in unison—ghat if they,
shosild draw closer tOgether, be could not retain.
thdt confidence,
.and he found it necessary to re-
. . .
ttre in the catty stage, of the eontest_ to escape those
.difficultieS and evils Which were evidently arising."
The merits of the Noble Lord .Were recognized,
and were nester more apparent than in the efficient,
way in which he got on the taxes. ,In 180, upon-
the appointment of the " Talents," those merits
were fairly 'and justly aCknoWledged.. The Admi-
nistration of the Noble Lord practised self-denial
and went out of office in a commendable, manner„,
which was not ,to be avoided. The fact was so,
but what was the fact with respect to Mr. Fox and'
my Lord Grenville ? They were untried ; but
whentried, did they 'quit Office with a reputation
for abilities as high as before they came into office
Did their expeditions to the Dardanelles , to. Egypt,.
and to various parts 6f the world, .jUstify the ex:,
pectations whichlad,heen previously' entertained
of them ? For hiniself, -the Hon.-Gentleman dis-
Claimed, all party, spirit ; because, when he found
upon any occasion the public voice Was against the
Ministers, he followect the *Pipe. of the. public.
Now, as to the measures of thesGoverxiinetit, he
was one of those who ..never did appsoase'of the
Orders in Connell. He ihought that the ailairs of
America resented.A critical Aspect, bnt it would-
be too'int ch toTassanse, that Government would
.not takesuch nieasure. as Should restorethy
tions of amity with that. Power. As to the finan-
cial diffieulties under Which the country, ..labours,
he had every reliance anion the abilities Anal knowS
ledge of his Right Hon. Friend at the head of that
department. Ike ..w,.hoWS..Ver, no means of ex-
trication. from the' difficulties which surround us,
.
by any vote of the ,kind adopted some days ago,
The Hon. Gentleman concluded with stating his-
determination to 'support the motion for the
Address. ..
Mr.GaarraN Sva.s not disposed to trouble • the
:Clouse with many observations ; but some remarks
having been :made upon the conduct of the two
Noble Lords, Grey and Grenville, he thought their
situation required very great consideration and
forbearance. In the part Which they had taken
during the negociations, they appeared to have
made every effort for their country, which to their
minds seemed consistent with their duty. They.
were restrained .from taking office (the love' of
office and the love of power not being -predomi-
nant) from a 'conviction
.that they could not
be of any service to their country. The House
must know that the refusal of office is a crime
very few men would be guilty of ; was.an event
very seldom:found in the annals of History. Gen-
tlemen would . recollect, that in accepting office
a Minister was not likely to exalt his reputation,
unless he possessed the confidence: of his
vereign : it was not desirable that. any ;Minister,
let his opinions be right or wrong, should be lias
ble to have those opinions contronled by :another
influence.. In such case ,he had better not accept.
of office. The Minister of the 'Crown should have-
the Confidence: of Parliament and' the confidence
of the Kling ;. if he did pots possess both-4f he:
.possessed the-confidence of_, the Parliament alone,'
he Would lose the other, and ifs the:eonfidence of
the Sovereign swas,withheld;therithe
_Joss of the.
othertnustsfollosv. The 14011Sehotd_liaa certainly
neversheen considered, in a Hiqcalpoirst of view,
nor. as important ; but if the Nobles Lords, Grey
and. 'Grenville, thought that it was- possible that
-there alight be two Cabinets, A-Political, Cabinet
xesponsible, and a Household, Cabinet irrespon-
sible, they acted wisely, hethoughtelisinterested-
ly, and honestly mot cserta.inly, in refuting to ac-
cept office. If .such was their opinion, this House
had ho tight to' question their constnct. The Ho-
nourable Gentleman (Mr. Johnstone) had made
sothe allusions to Lord Sidmoutb and his Admini-
"stration, and the opinions of the two Noble Lords
to whom he had just referred, were in favour sof
the Catholic claims. He rejoiced to Vicar, from
what fell from the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) that
the, question was not to he opposed, by the Ad-
ministration collectively, but it must be recollect-
ed; that Lord Sidruouth was a decided enemy to
that measure ; that in so doing, he acted, no
doubt, from conscientious motives. -That circum-
stance had induced a wish in him, that the negos
elation of the Marquis Wellesley had come to a
'better conclusion ; the whole of the parties: named
in the negociation were honourable men, and had
performed a conscientious part, and consequently
were little liable to animadverSion
Mr. ELLIOT would not take up the time of the
House, as. the question lay in a vesy narrow Com-
pass ; it was in fact a question of great and para-
mount constitutional importance. To the House
of Lords and Commoas the deliberative power of
approval of the Government belonged ; -and to the
Crown, the deliberative power of choosing its
Ministers.. /u the House of Commons was vested

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the power of negativing that appointment of `li-.
nisters—of refusing to sup?ort the choke, eutil it,
that choice was sanctione I by the confidence of ~,•,
• sr
the people. The controul of this ;.louse is the
very vital principle of the Constitution. What.
had
had passed hitherto on the. subject ? A vote had
been come to, stating the sense which this House -14:
entertained of the necessity of making a strongand. - F_.t
efficient Administration, implying thereby, that ' t
the Adininistration then in power did not possess
the confidence of-Parliam 1
ent, nor correspcmd with 4 -
the wisheS,Ofithe country. What .is the conse-,
quence of that vote ? - The. Gentlemen exercising
the pewerseif the Government resigned their si-
tuations. A. conimunication was made to the
House, in answer to the Address from the Prince
Regent, eepressing his determination to comply '. •
,',
with the wishes of the country, and the Ministers,
that they were requested to hold their situations
L
ad interim. Weil ! three weeks elap%ed, and no- •
P,
thing further was heard, till one of. those same
'Ministers came down to the House two days since,
-and infOtined Parliament of a circumstance which
the House should take care does not prove the , ' [
death of its character and authority. What was
that circumstance ? Why, the communication of : :
the fact, that „his Royal Highness in answer to ..
the Vote of the House, calling for a stronger and
more efficient Administration, had returned upon ..
the country the very, Administration of which they •
complained I .The Honourable Gentleman (Mr:
S. Wortley) had stated, and assumed various pro-
positions, as arising in ,the negotiation between
'the Marquis Wellesley and his Noble Friends,-
whieh he would pass over, and advert to the
other, arid the last negocietion with the • Noble 1
Earl Moira, who, had. certainly made. a communi-
cation which was fit for serious. consideration :
but When his Noble Friends desired to know whe-
ther they were to be entrusted with full. powers of .
.
controul over the whole of the State•OfficeS ? the s .
Noble Earl expressed his dissent from .entering i
into any discussion of that questiOn: If, there,. .
fore, they had Sacrificed their authority by accept- ~
auce of office; under the terms offered, they would • -
have divested.themselves;of all responsibility over t
,
the State, and' have .recognised that principle,
. which, of all 'others, was most dangerous, name- ' ,
ly, dividing- the Court from the Government.—
The concessionOf the point would have shewn the
- value annexed to the influence, which influence,
in conjunction with another Household allied to
',the Government, would have formed a most im-,
Asertant barrier, against the power of the Constittes
tion. The Honourable Gentleman (Mrs Cart-
wright) had denied the fact; but did. not Lord
. Moira carry.the minute of the conversation to the •
;Prince', inmrder that- the impediment in respect, I
,tos the Household might be removed. The advisers
s of, the Crowns however, adhered to the, princi-
. pies they wished 'to maintain. The Houss;iold 1
. remains as' it was, and the measures on .which his '
. N.obleyriends alone could accept office, were ilot
abandoned, namely, conciliation to the Catho- . i
lics,, and the repeal of the Orders in Council.-2-s
'On the other point there bad been a compromise,
for the Ministers completely abjured their trust.
Two months ago they declared, that it was the •
unanimous opinion of the Cabinet, that the pies-
.
tion- of the admission of .Catholic Colonels to the ', •
rank of
.Generals .could not be entertained : they t-
now declare themselves of. a different opinion.---' - •
What would the friends of the Church say to this l
What would the Judge of the Prerogative Court,
the Member for Oxford, say, when he foUnd .
that those very Ministers had drunk the dregs of
the cup of political humiliation?—The ,question
1
.for the House to decide was, whether on these
grounds they would suffer a vote to be frustrated
which they once had come to—recollecting that
the authority which passed that vote in those
critical tithes was an authority emanating from
the people'?
Mr. BRAG6E BATHURST admitted that it was ,
the undoubted right of the House to express an
opinion of . the merits or demerits of any set of
'Ministers, and that right was answered in -the
communication made by his Royal Highness bl
reply to the first motion of the Honourable Gen-
tleman.
The. motion of the Noble Lord, by wItY
of amendment, stood. on the ground that Parlia-
ment ought -not to trust the -Ministers which the ' 1
House had decided were incompetent to discharge
the duties of the Government. Another Noble
Lord put the question on plain and simple grounds; .
while the Right Honourable Gentleman who lest
spoke had considered the question as one of em-
barrassment, 'and thought that the House ought
not to be satisfied until some other Administra-
tion, differently formed, :should be appointed"
The Honourable Gentleman (Mr. E.) was for ad-
.dressing the Head of the Executive, until syliat
he and others were pleased to conceive an efficient
-Administration was formed. But it was vain to -,
put out of sight all that passed in-the negociatioes,
and'cOnsequently, unless the House provided sane
'basis on which to proceeds to go on addressing
would not produce the desired effect. The Rigil '
Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Grattan) had talked
of the conduct, of the Noble Lords Grey and G re n: '
(1
ville, and of the conscientious part they had ac
te
No doubt they had acted as becarnetheir charactei.s,
but in his view of the failure of the yegociationtl,
•he (Mr. B.) had not considered that the fiousc
*hold Officers interfered to prevent an amicable tel 7
mination, for they were left for consideration
,`‘'-;
a matter- of discretion ; that the preliminary of tii e
negotiation wass that all the Officers of t:'e
Household should be in,th.esame situation as "A:.
High Officers -of the • State—that no motive._`::
private feelings- or personal friendship should ,_ll,
terfere to 'impede the negotiation. On the etuo;
hand it was evident to him,' that if the sine qua
~,,
of the Noble Lords was to be acceded to, t''c
;'Sovereign'Sovereign ,would have been placed in a state
degradation, and such was the feeling of i.,
Noble Lord who conducted the negociation• tilit
this situation stood the negotiation.' The res._ of
of all caineto this, that there was no possibilltY
of
the Public availing themselves of the', tglent3,b,,s ,
those Noble Lords, unless they were wining t,_
the Crown should surrender one of its most n"7l,
puta.ble'prerogatives. With .respect to the oth'
part of the question, he: wished to touch -11..n‘ tits
in the most delicate manner. The Hoa. Gen' s
i of leW-4"
man; he was sure, must see,- that insteiu, - ) ~,,
ing to conciliation, its tendency would he t` p
--, 1(1 t'te
troduce violence; .and the House WOO
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Cili I,
greatly cut of its way by interfering at SO
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