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London, England, 1815-06-17 00:00:00

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yearntO•fvlitch they were then 'ithjecteti,• titus
raising to 90 charges those before liable to a
nionthlY 'charge of seventy-twO. He had then
proceeded gin the principle of faCilitating thn in-
tercourSe between Great Britain and Ireland. For
one of the objections to its continuance was the
extent of frauds'which the Irish manufacturer was
said to practise,' and it teas not -more for the
terests Of the Irish revenue than the advantage of
the BritiSh trade, that the charge thonfd be In-
creased to such an extent as wont(, he believed;
make it imphssible for any spirits to go into con-
sumption without the payment of legal duty.—
The estimate of the last year, formed on similar
princinles had been more than verified ; he had
estimated it at 300,0001.- its produce wkis in six
m0nti,398,4561. ; and after deducting the sum of
295,41661. the def.:rease of duty on foreign sin: it in
the year 1314, the prodtice of his regulation Lip to
Jan: 5, that is in six.mouths, was 193,000 r. ex-
ceeding half a year's estimate by 43,0091. aethit
could not he said but that he stated this most fairly.
The Bill ‘vhieli was in Progress through the House
tharked on the capacity 'of all stills forty per
cent. on the work impi,sed in the year 1312, being
an increase of 1.5 per cent. upon the accumulated
charge which had taken place in the last Session
of Parliament. He hoped we should no longer
hear it objected that the Irish manufacturer had,
tinder the laws" which regulated his work, those
facilities of fraud which it had been asserted had
prevented the English capitalists from incetim4
him in the markets of Great Britain and Ireland.
The full estimate of tie former ‘vwk would pro-
&tee upwards of 200,0001. He would not state his
expectations at more than 120,0001. Although he
had no duties of postage to propose, he had to
state to the Committee, that the cnillnlinficatinns
vvitiz:h he had had with his Right -Hon. Friends
near him authorised him to expect an increa%e in
that allowance, which under an arrangement of 30
year, standing was made to Ireland by Great Bri-
tain, in compensation for rights waved by Ireland
as to the conveyance, of .mails. A Packet Dwy
hiring been since. imposed on letters, it was cvi-
dent-that Ireland was entitled to greater equivalent
titan had been paid tinder that agreement ; be-
sides, the correspondence between the two -coun-
tries had immensely increased. He bath re.,son to
believe that there would be no objection to in-
ere.v.e toe annual allowance from 40001- to 90001.
He did not, however,' mean to take credit tor it
in the NVays and Means of the year, and he rather
Mentioned it now on account of its havolg at-
tracted the attention of the Finance i.;ounnittee,
tvlto, its thei'r Report, had recommended the sub-
ject 'tor eousideration.. The Committee, perhaps,
would wish that he should recapitulate more this-
t inctly the statement which he had just made, lie
estimated the

Ditties on Tobacco, Customs, and Excise (140,000
Malt
ASsrssed 'Faxes
Si:l. ',lnd Hops 15,000
Stamps
.
' Spirit Duty ' 110,000
Regulations-by increasud Charges

Maliint; a Total of
British, equal to 823,333 Irish, to cover a charge
of 727,3501. which the Interest and Sinking Fund
alone had ereJte:l.

Having sub t ni.t..et. to the donmilttec this de-
tailed explanation of the Way and Means, the
Right Hon. Gentienuri alluded shortly to the pro-
duce, of the revenues of forwer years. The net
produce in the ye.n- ending the

•
• Jaluary, 11312 was L. 4,241,035
sth ,i-nuary, 151:3
Sth.l•lnuary, ,1814
And sri Janu.iry, 1815 5,627,000
Being ati i.i.:ti-ease of revenue in tour yearS of
1,400,00Q1. when he had to remark tuat of the
taxes of last.year, only one half of the produce
had been brought into this account. The tintiiim-
tion of the-Cus:om Duties in the last y:•ar, he h-td
explained on a previous occa..ion. It- bad trot
arisen on any of those artides upon which the
increased duties had been imposed. The int,!rnal
ditties, namely Cie Excise and Assessed "'saxes,
for which he might he deemed in some degree re-
sponsible, (the produce depending so much on
their management and collection), had never been
so productive as last year ; the stun of nearly nine
hundred thousand having been paid into the Ex-
chequer above the payment of the foregoing year.
Since the Union, the increase of the revenues in
Ireland had been
,41,633-,0001., the total -produce
having been in the 14 years to 1801;28,612,0001.
in 14 years to 1815, 70,245,0001. In reviewing
thhse subjects which had occupied the attention.
of •Parliamen: during the present Session, he
dwelt with much satisfaction on the benefit which
Ireland would derive from the alteration which
had been made in the Corn Liws. The public
improvements which were now fast advancing
to completion in that country ; be also con-
templated with the liveliest pleasure, as he
considered them not only advantageous to Ire-
land, hut conducive to, the interests of the
,
Nation at large. Of still greater importance
be thougid the proceedings of the Committee
op the Finances and Expenditure of :Ireland.
Their attention had been attracted to the in-
terpretation of that part of the sere•nth Article
of the Act of Union, which ,refers to the joint
contribution of Great Britain and Ireland, and
the consolidation of the debts and exchequers of
both countries. 'f he Committee were aware that
the competence of Parliamqt to declare this con-
solidation would arise upon certain proportimrs
taking place between the respective debts. A cal-
culation of the value of those debts was made in
I, and it was found to have nearly approached
the proportions regulated by the Act of Union.
The last report of the Committee would in a few
days be in the hands of Members, arid thotigh the
Committeewere aware that a literal and strict inter-
pretation of that article was not unattended with dif-
ficulty, since that period had elapsed when the re-
spective National Debts were. in the proportions
described, had yet reported their opinion, that
the confidence of parliament had tint passed away
from it, and they earnestly recointnended that
consolidation of our Finances, which at the
time.Of.the Union was contemplated. The relict
which Ireland would derive from such- a measure
in balance from a scale of expenditure which her
means were inadequive, to defray, he eloquently
descanted upon at some length. In that part of
their report in which the Committee had examin-
ed the various branches of Irish taxation, and the

general piOduee a Irish itt7eirine; they had,
dime justice to the financial exertions which
Ireland had made In late years. Tlie perma
nent revenues of Great Britain, it appeared;
had iocreased from the year 1801, when the
accounts of both countrieS were first made to
cOrrespinol, in the proportion of 161 to 10,
and the whole revenue of Great Britain in the
proportion of 21 to 10 ; while the revenues of
Ireland were increased in the Same period in the
proportion of 24 to 10. But in the 24 'year's into
which the Committee of Finance were by the in-
struction of the [louse directed to inquire, the in-
creak: of the Frish revtutie has been remarkable,
being in the 'ti-oportitin Of 46 to 10. In
the attention of the Committee to this Report, he
way perhaps performing nearly the last duty which
he litruld have tti dicharge in his present oil-kill
character. He regarded the Act recommended
by the Finance Committee as the contrinmation.
of that Legislathe Union which is the basis of
Our .power and Of our fame. " One of 'the first
results,- said the Right Honourable Gentleman,
in conclusion, " whreh will probably flow from, a
new arrangement, will be, Jo place at the bead of
the Financial Administration of Ireland, toy Right
Hon. Friciid VanSittart). He will brine; to
it, I ,on conscious, talents tar beyond what I can
pretend to, -and information greater than I shall"
ev.=;:r But 1 humbly venture to say, that
even he wilt not bring to it greater zeal in the
public service, or ;oOle anxiety than I have felt to
xiis'eharge my duty equally to my country and the
Crown. 1 shall be accused, perhaps, justly, Of
.presumption, it I attempt to .express, on this
occasion, all chat I lea But, I had rather ap-
pear presumptuous, than tiogratelid. I sett deep-
ly sensible of the indedgence which the House
tras at all times -shewn me,• and 1 hope, Sir,
that the favour whiell has' been strewn me by
the Committee this "night, I have not too much
abused—(hlear, hear !) But I feel more deeply
Stilt the support that it has-hee,n triy good lot ;1111C
to meet with from t':e publicin Ireland, and the
raliiy with which they have received 'those
nuns res which- it-has been More titan once my
p tintul d:iiy to adopt--(Hear 1) I hope that my
Right Um.. Friend may receive the same support ;,
ain ,onvinced he will receive deserve
it, Sir, titinitely more, but at all events he might
expect_ it of the generosity of the people of Ireland,
from that taiene,s tvhich always interprets justly
tanr intentions—Meat:l); and, above all, front
that public spirit, which; far more than legisla-
tive acta can do, ha:: strengthened our connexion
with i3r]taiii—((lcar I)i—that spirit which has ce-
mented ihe compact ,that unites us, and which I
truss will preserve it for et er."--.(Repeated cheers
trot,. all sides).

Toe Right Hon. Gentleman then moved his first

Sir JouT.,7 NEwponT paid a compliment to the
ability with. which the Right Hon. Gentleman
had fulfilled the duties of his situation. As most
of the suhice.s connected with the Irish Estimates
had already been d.seussed in the course of the
Session, he did not 'think it necessary to enter at
length into thtin. He agreed with his Right
Hon. Friend that the greatest bane of Irish pros-
perity. was illicit distillation, and that the Inca-
sures adopted against it should be strong and de-
This would not .he 'Severity, but: jus-
He did not think forgiveness in such
cases would be proper. The House had relaxed
in le-Vying the penalties incurred by the counties
of Dwinegal and Cavan, and those counties had
since become otE:-tiding parties to a tenfold degree.
To relax again in the levying of those penaltieS,
wouln be to
,shake the pillar of the welfare of
Ireland. He praised-the efforts made by his Hon.
Friend to increase the produce of the revenue
they' hash been highly successful, but he thought
more might still he done in the same way. He
approvd of the course which he adopted on time
Corn question, in which .the- interest of Ireland
was so deeply.involved. lie thmight the 'grant
for the education of the poor, well administered,
would bestow 'the greatest benefit upon the Irish.
people. He could
.nut, h mever, agree in con-
sideriiig the Act of Union as ending merely in the
consolidation of the debts of the two Countries.
There were more vital objects, for which Ireland
had male the greatest sacrifiCes, on which the
Union Was founded. When that act was consum-
mated, it could not be in any person's- contem-
plation that a course of events would take-place
in Europe which would render vast and continued
expenditure necessary; otherwise he was con-
vinced such a large proportion of the public ex-
pences would not have been faith upon Ireland.=--
In the last fourteen years Scotland - had'supplied
55,500,0001. in war taxes, and Ireland 70,240,0001.
or about a million a year more than Scotland. -It
could not 'therefore be said that - she had been
wanting in exert ions. At the period of the Union,
Ireland had just emerged front a state incapa-
citating her front making great exertions. The
increase of the revenue which he had already
stated had occurred_ within the last ten years. If
her debt had.grown, it was not for want of exer-
tions on her part, but from the state of incapacity
in which_she was Tlaced at the time and for a few
years after her Union had been accomplished.
He supported the intended consolidation of the
debts of the two countries, as rescuing Ireland
from the imputation of not making sufficient ex-
ertions.

cisi

(ice.

Mr. STEWART agreed with the Hon. Baronet in
-cOnsidering illicit distillation as the bane of a
country. in a residence of 20 years, in the county
of Donegal, he had made every effort in his power
to repress the practice : but when the Excise Of-
ficers and the tnilitary had been unable to jytt it
down, it could not be expected that I,intKodders
should prove successful : he therefore tuought the
Lion. Baronet had east an unjust imputation.upon
them.

Sir J. NEWPORT explained.
Mr. PEELP. was fully aware of the advantages
which would be derived Iron' the cdticatioo of the
poor,• without any restriction of sects, :ul►i ,vhen
the avidity %yid' which instruction was sought for
and received by the lower classes in Irclioid was
considered, it would be parsimony in this country
not to grant the means Of extending, it. IL nail
bad the misfortune to introduce ineaspres of ap-
parent severity for securing,' the ioieloa trAmi,,,l-
-lity of Ireland, which, however, is N‘ouid
serve wore for prevention than punishineut, and

010'a
Wohld be tendered tinheCeSiatY
tI
insteuction, amongst the Peiiple. He, Kehoal6,
rccommended a plan of education which,s„'-fulea
exclude no religion, and should not be I°`
ce all
on religious conversion, but should el1011,„eir,
communions. Thdse days were pait who' or
diceswere entertained rigainit the educ,atiTn'wer
the poor. It had been said, that among t• he (.1- the,
Orders of schoolmasters in Ireland were laniosa
Men who spread dissatisfaction j 1146„idge
then possessed a much greater share ofthe 3 der.
l
_than those whom 66y misled, or had
been better informed, that complaint co
"iti
ot
have existed. pc,/ t'll°6;
Sir 11. PARNELL agreed with the ..-!.P.111
Gentle Man, in the propFiety of givin;e`;t:lri t'fr
to, all classes, of people, instead of con6"!l' it
any particular religion. it had been his irse3
to propose, that Grand Juries in irelan''
gOd

I• 111 a
pose ta.. of one penny on'everY acre 0- tin
for the erection of Schools, and he tilight
brilig this motion forward at a future time.
The CHANCELLOR of the Excne.auEll C(lllFrid•
Whited his Right Hon. Fiaend 81°0 A
gerald), on the manly and able manner in "r"
he had Whiled the duties of his situati°"'
hotbed that many years of public service reinigtevc•
for Min to perfotm._ Under his care, tbe -year,
thC
rsii,tls.es of Ireland had increased two 3-jarge
ie lion. Baronet had adverted 10 cot
solution ins
gcrra‘'s'ttlt of
leatlill7l:ei 'lkpe'
r•s(.lejeptbsottile:tti
olo) .t. Irelandiitt'l%slsiall:(A9l:oe:ll-5:
p-o'stant,.fact, that the Sinking Fsind 0f
was noY/ double that of Great Britain al -;
tiortsl
ginning of the war of the French Ile`cci'Ll--,,04
cur's
whilst her debt was' not one-half wh'it tbe
at that period. Se.ting the inereasi,g iii)otect
education of the poor around! us, he s 4;
the Most be/Teti-didresults from its el% .teasson
Ireland, noos&l'
Lotd CASTLEREAGH approved of the lirt7oo
arrangement with respect to the ons(,)1!": %sot°
the finances of bath countries, as "".1;', tl
tend snore effectually to confirm the
such a measure. At tf.e time Of the 1-10'°-.d to"
Scotland, a stint of 400,0001. had heel! Irci
that country, as a compensation lot st'lllciybel)
her to the same taxation as England; but,
the U;iion with [ramp! token place, tociniss
parity of debts was too great to -allow Of hose
tar -a!Tangement without in 1-166f1 the
ever, that the Irish debt ltad ncrease`i 3114
treyence was proportionably ditnini°'eYds.
an additional step had been taken ti,j(s'.
equal taxation between the two coiot,.rrltigbt
s.tated that all the tare proposed by e
11"•1-11ends had produced more th°'' t 1071siel
mate which he had given to ParliatneW-, sy'
was a proof of their excellence. But 'liirehalii•
tens had been adopted at att
would not be in its present pros'f,i'cose"
thought that as the lower orders of Iselan"..esitl"
for iustruction with more avidity than for, a.--alczt,
I this countrrshould liberally grant then IP'
of acquiring it. The pow"; of Ireland
found infinite under the fostering care
went, and he hoped, that in order to
much at once the vigour of t 0
he co"cri
not be exhausted.
7 Aiter some further discussion,
N.."vi)(wts Mr. J. Smith,. Mr. D. GiddY' Ai as flirt
reek patt!cipAed, the ResOlnuoir, "T 7
,!tj
• sub.ry tient Resolutions, was agreed t°,cceic
tvas ordered that the Report should IS -
on Monday.

SUPPLY. ' ....pe a s'llll'
The House then resolved itself into a Cotttn"'' . no
to which various documents were referred. €_,,,,,, iiie ..- C"...
ititNilorilsl:E'..:,Y FITZGERALD_ proposed tl4 lu"--c '
which were agreed to : 't Ire'
'darati° '
69801. for the Commissioners of Public t. ~.
laud.
NlBirktO. lit.ott.„);Eth,eaCftoecor natisslsii.ornterr fur
attlt! Natioila d a Itcs (-0
~, pro Pose a V° ...
exp an 10., 004150 ~, et
atii7(l" Bforligtrnitiiingiie.2un-7o6fit.hteoadCraaaPitaaginess tiiTystlo2a iiitbcigl Sir‘
joyed as Barrack Alasters of the Marine. 1 uith
After a short conversation het-ween gr. -.Si
Rose, die Resolution was agreed ea.
MONUMEN'I'S TO GENERALthOatFoll'ti,Cf!allrGsl.l4l'l;;isSs
Lord CASTLEREAGH gave notiA:e,
Il e would move for a monument to et neralsiaa '
Delaney, Gore, and Gibbs. filis.
THE Dt-NR. incellbr 4P. to-Al
ExToolegaueqruestion' from M Greaten, the Cl).` -g''''''• 4#
their notes, rtehpelireed:u.
with the Lank be fur %Ate►g
ank on the subject of a comp 0..1 eon or
l l be ccou _ _,,t,
re,
the,House in Committee. Thl:?et‘');;O:4 e( °lent tirial,.;r:/141P01(1
an average of the issue of notes. in circulation
ired 153,11,.
,Stet,
itthnotfi l.irisel • had entered- into rltz,,,,ra o,
ceding year; and the principle NV,I3, that jai; i'l.
pay at the rate of 3,5001. for •every million ft:,,,,.,,e liatie..o)
This engagement was to continue in forco unti_.',lii"er 001 ,:i 0
allowed to resume its cash payments. Huge%jjotli
the Day were them disposed (4 and the
Haft-past Eleven. '

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Some work----men in raking down °11()1(.0;;-, I'V"0
the corner of Clarke's-law,. PtidleY-6tl 4,ierabr
verl.
"InPt°ll, on Friday last, found coi"joes
quantity of the silver coins of F,Lizabetl'P; Osilc
and Charles 1. most of which are in a ii`l4
of preservation:

vs
at Marliet COAL MARKET, Jll.Nil 16. price' 15. ,6J•
Ships sold. to
7 1\ ewAk .....
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square., of a daughter.
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a Id Mid, ''-,13ri:°15/)
tilda
, yoursgest daughter of the late qtr ,C,‘ t I o . x ie.
of Bre ' Char
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amore-House Southampton. I tile it Ovient
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Tripp, Rector of Borielegi , Mewl, to i late 13fig
of the •
of Sydney-place • tut estle daughter
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of
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of w.,,t,, at, an advanced,ag the Rev. o t . KepHe9to►.y 01,
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