The Sun.
London, England, 1823-03-20 00:00:00

NATIONAL DEBT:

The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved, that the National Debt
Reduction be printed. lie had given notice yesterday,
that he should move its second reading to-morrow (this day),
when it might be taken into consideration. Finding, however,
that it would be more convenient for sdvcral Noble Peers, that
the debate sliould not take place till Friday, he should now
propose that the Bill should be read a second time to-morrow
(this day), as a matter of course, and that the discussion should
be taken on its committal on Friday, for which day he moved
that there Lordships be summoned. Agreed to.

KING'S' LIBRARY.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL. having moved the second read:
ing of the King's Property Regulation Bill,
Lord ELLENBOROUGH was understood to express a
wish that it should he postponed to Friday. He saw by the
votes before the House, that a Message had been brought down
to the Commons relative to the disposal of the King's Libra..
ry. This Library had been collected by his late Majesty,
and had come to his present Majesty by inheritance. His
power over it was, consequently, no more than it was over the
King's personal property in general. If the public were to be
put in possession of it by an Act of Parliament, he apprehend-
ed that his Majesty must also he considered as enjoying the
right of disposing of any other object of the Kings personal
property. On these points he should be happy to know the
opinion of the Noble Earl on the Woolsack.
The LORD CHANCELLOR could not say what course
the other House Intended to adopt on the subject. With re.
spect to the right of his Majesty to dispose of the King's
personal chattels, it was a question which-required some con.
sideration, and to which he would take tune to return an
answer.

The Earl of. LIVERPOOL conceived that his Majesty was
fully entitled to dispose of the property in question in any way
which he might think proper. In the present case his Majesty
had thought-fit to place it at the disposal of the nation, and all
that Parliament had to consider was in what manner his libe-
ral present might he best applied ; for no Act of Parliament
was necessary to give him the power of disposing of it as he
pleased.
Earl GREY considered the question one of considerable
importance. The King could only possess the Library in ques-
tion as he did the other property of the Crown, and could not
dispose of it without having a similar right to dispose of the
other part of that property. The Noble Carl opposite seemed
to consider that the right was undoubted ; but as the Noble
Earl on the Woolsack required time before be Would return an
answer, the matter could not be in his opinion quite as clear,
as it was in that of the other Noble Earl. Ile was astonished
that his Majesty's Ministers should not be all agreed on that
subject.
The LORD CIIANCELLOR said, that no misunderstand-
ing existed among his Majesty's Ministers. But when his
Noble Friend (Lord Ellenborough)
asked him important ques-
tions, for he admitted that they were important, it was natural
that he should wish for time to consider the subject before he
returned an answer.

Earl GREY had never ventured to suppose, that any mis-
understanding could exist between his Majesty's Minisvars.—
He considered them a most compact body of men, all united
for the public good, and it had certainly never entered his
mind that there could be any misunderstanding between the
Noble Earl on the ‘Voolsack and the Right Hon. Secretary in
the other House. He was only surprized, that the opinion of
the Noble and Learned Earl should not have been taken by his
Colleagues before on the subject, on which he now refused to
give an answer.
The LORI) CHANCELLOR stated, that he had been first
asked if he knew whether what had been brought in the Com-
Mons on the subject was in the shape of a Bill or not. Of this
he' could not answer, as he had done, that he knew nothing.
If he were asked whether it was necessary to have a Bill or not,
he would certainly give his opinion, but not at present.
The Bill was then read a second tune, and on Lord ELLEN.
Bououtufs motion was ordered to be printed.
The Irish Arms Bill was read a third time, and passed.
The Irish Yeomanry Corps Bill went through a Committee,
and was reported.
The Marquis of BATH presented a Petition from the
Bankers, Merchants, and Traders of Frome, in the CoUnty of
Somerset, against the Insolvant Debtors' Act.—Laid on the
table.—Adjourned. I

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Shadwell Church Bill was read a second time, after
a few words from Mr. WYvna., Mr. BYIIO, 'and Mr. P.
MOORE., and ordered to be connnitted,

Lord STANLEY presented a Petition .from the wholesale
and retail dealers of Blackburn, complaining of the injury
they received from hawkers and pedlers ; and on the motion of
the Noble Lord, accounts were ordered to show the returns un-
der the head of stamp duties.
Mr. BUCHANAN :presented a Petition from the 'COM-
udssioners of Supply of the county of Dutnbarton against the
Cottage Tar.
Mr. CAULFIELD presented a Petition from the Pro-
prietors of Potteries in the county of Armagh, praying that
the Union Duties be not repealed.—These Petitions were laid
on the table.
Mr. S PRINGAICE presented a Petition from the Inhabi-
tants of St. Peter's Parish, Dublin, against the weight of their
local taxation.—This Petition was referred to the Committee
on Loi:al Taxation.