The Sun.
London, England, 1840-12-01 00:00:00

a coalition exists at the present time. We should reply to 1 i
coalesced Europe, if we had the honour of speaking in the I
name of our country—to Europe coalesced for a single
mot:.ve, her old feelings of hatred against France—we I
sh'uuld reply to coalesced Europe, that the Eastern question
was but a pretext for an understanding, for an union against
tour country, and that France must be prepared for every
eventuality 1 Well, the question of armament, I thus put it.
The coalition has not to be re-constituted,it is re. constituted.
Ought wo to wait for the coalition to attack us to arm ? No.
When we were united with England I understood the re-
pose and the security ; but the two countries being once
separated, F_ think we ought to be vigilant, and to arm with
promptitu do. Between France and England there can be
but auiaitimate alliance or hostilities. We must arm with-
out delay : no one in Europe has the right to oppose it.
An isnfortunate coincidence has arisen in this debate. It
is "a personal contest between two men who have directed
:tlac affairs of the State. I ask the most conservative men
if, when they have seen the Minister and the Ambassador
contending against each other with their confidential notes,
they do not think that such a contest infringes on the rights
both of men and institutions? Do you know what cue said
to the other? When a Minister has made a man his con-
fidant, a day will come %Olen that man will ascend the tri-
bune in order to display to the Powers abroad that deplo-
rable spectacle • he will avail himself of the confidential
documents which a Minister has put forth.—( Exclamations
" Enough, enough 1") Let not such debates be renewed.
The Hon. Member then eeviews the conduct of the
French Ambassador in London with respect to M. Th;ers,
and he blames him for having displayed too much soli-
citude at home when France was threatened abroad,
when her honour were in danger. Then, he adds, there
were in the Cabinet of the Ist of March two principles,
two origins, two parties, and two religions—a moment
when one being faithful to its oriein and to its religion
will raise its head in presence of the Powers abroad when
the other would surrender itself.—( Exclamations.) " I
knew," said the President of the Council of the Ist of
March, " that abroad it was stated that France would ne-
gotiate and threaten, but that she would give in." " Well,"
added the President of the Council, " I wished to give
Europe the lie that time ; and you, .*eir, the Ambassador
—( Long interruption)—You were then occupied with
questions at hume—you said that the Ministry was actuated
by ik revolutionary spirit. Yes. in your eyes, it wig con,
Promised, it is true, by the loyal and disinterestel support
of that part of the Chamber."—(" Oh, oh !" " Yes, yes !"
Yes, it was compromised by that support which I have no
need to justify, ler it was nobly done yesterday by M.
Thiers's energetic language. It was compromised because
' it rested on that part of the Chamber which appeared
L good when there was a contention for political positions
_(" Oh, oh.") The Opposition for a footstool (tiiiirche•
pied) to arrive at a position —( A tumult of disorder,
" Order, order," shouted from all quarters.)
M. Bugeaud—The President must call the speaker to
order.
Odilon Barrot said a few words, which, owing to
the tumult in the House were inaudible, and added—Them
are facts upon which I shall never accept an amnesty of
' time, and when they have a reference to the doctrinaire
• state, I will not desert this tribune without making my
protest. Now, Gentlemen, there are no circumstances in
which a c ought to negotiate, not even in favour of liberty,
when the country is threatened. When such facts are to
' be held up as maxims, I must protest with all the strength
of my soul.--( A voice, " You have been a volunteer
under the white flag." " Oh, oh 1" exclamations.)
The President—l request the speaker not to heed those
interruptions.

M. Odillon Barrot—l thank the worthy Member for his
interruption. lam going to give an explanation.
Numerous voices—Speak, speak.
A Member—But that does not concern the Chamber.
Odillon Birrot then enters into explanation.
Several voices—Question, question.
M. Odilh,n Barrot— I end as I commenced, under tl'e
impression of feeling that I expressed just now. I conjure
you, whatever our situstion may be, maintain the dignity
of language, of national representation —(" Oh, oh," from
the Centre.) I conjure you, do not disarm the country in
presence of an armed coalition. Place it i❑ a position to
be prepared for every eventuality, for preserving its dignity
and its greatness und,.7r all circuin.tances.—(Approbation.)
M. Dulaure ascends the Tribune.
M. Guizot (from his place)-_I beg to speak on a per-
sonal question.

SevZTRI voices—To the Tribune ! to the Tribune !

The President having called upon the Minister for Fo-
reign Affairs, that gentleman declines entvring a second
time upon a recital of his journey to Gand, and rests him-
self upon the services he has rendered his country.
M. Dufaure then ascends the tribune, and declares that
he will not meddle with questions of a personal nature.
He will only reply to that portion of M. Barrot's speech,
which reicrs to the policy of the conduct of the Cabinet of
the 12qt of flay. The Honourable Member goes on to
say that the Cabinet has not been put in a position by
England to refuse the proposal to force the passage. M.
liarrut must have forgotten, by bringing that accusation
against us, that M. Passy, my Hon. Colleague, read several
documents which prove that reproach is groundless. The
Honourable Member, after recapitulating the various acts
accomplished by the Ministry of the 12th of May, which
he jus:ifics in every sense, alludes to what M Barrot said
respecting the signing and execution of the Treaty. and
adds that the Treaty was looked upon with perfect indif-
ference, and that there was no protest. But why? Be-
cause the Cabinet did not believe in the ratification and
execution of the Treaty; that conviction was entertained,
and nothir.g was done.
M Jaubert—We armed.

M. Dufaure—l do not deny it; but I go farther ; the
Treaty is being executed, the bombardment of seyrout
takes place; and yet what does the Cabinet of the let of
March do ? It publishes a note that you aro acquainted
with, and It recals the fleet from the Gulf of Salamis to
the port of Toulon. But it Ido not review those facts,
it is not for the rain pleasure of critising. It is in order
to show that the reproaches addressed to the Administra-
tion, of which I formed part, are enumerated. Al. Od:lion
liarrot praised the Cabinet of th© let of March for the
note of the bth of October, aril for the recal of the fleet
which was in the Gulf of Salamis.

Odilion Barrot—But no, Sir. I praised the note,
and not the recal of the fleet.
M. Dufaure—That is true. I recollect that M. Odiilon
Barrot praised the Cabinet for sending the fleet to Alexan-
dria. ( The Hon. Member, after a speech which was
listened to with much interest, states that in granting ar.
maments to M. Duperre, it will be with the view at the
same time of protecting our commerce, and for watching
over the Mediterranean.

M. Thicrs said that he wished to rectify some assertions.
It was not just to attribute to the Ist of March Cabinet all
the responsibility of events. lle asked, when the Ca-
binet gave in its resignation if it had not done all that it
could constitutionally do ?—( Great tumult, and crics of
" You attack the Crown," &c.)
M. Thiers, in the midst of the agitation, cried out,
" All this fury troubles me not."

The President called M. Thiers to order. He said
there was interruption but not fury.
M. Thiers said he was within constitutional bounds in
making this declaration. He argued that the note of Oct.
8 did not contain an abandonment of Syria.
M. Guizot—Yes it does.

M. Thiers—The note said nothing about limits ; it did
not say if Mehemet Ali should he Viceroy of Egypt alone
or Viceroy of Egypt and of Syria. It protested against
the deposition, and it did what had not once been done
since 1830. It expressed a cases belli, although he was
convinced that, if it eventually arose, there would still
be no war.—(Great interruption.) Ycs, the note did
what had not been done for ten years; it proved a cases
belli for a distant and uncertain ally, as he has been
termed. It was impossible to make war at the time men-
tioned by M. Dufaure, for, being unprepared, it would
have been criminal, as well as an act of temerity. The
complete armament could only be accomplished after the
meeting of the Chambers. The King not having con-
sented, he had resigned. It was his duty to tell this to
the country, and the responsibility of events, fell on his
successors.

The Chamber broke up at a quarter to seven, amidst ex-
traordinary agitation, and adjourned till Monday (yester-
day), at one o'clock.

The Toulon journal. Senlinelle de la Marine, of the
25th says, " The squadron of Admiral Hugon, after con-
tending with a violent north-west wind, which has been
blowing for some days, is again in sight of this port this
morning, and may perhaps be able to come into the roads
to-morrow.

The Toulonnais of the 25th, on the contrary, will have
it that Admiral Hugon has not received orders to make
the squadron return to Toulon.—Commerce.
The article of the National, published on the Bth of
November, headed, " The Army under the Ministry ui the
Ist of March," has been prosecuted as an offence to the
King's person ; but the Royal Court, by a decision of the
27th of this month, declares that there is no ground to pro-
secute, because the intention of designating the person of
the King, was not sufficiently clear in the article com-
plained of, and because it is formally disavowed in the
Number of Nov. 13.

The Piedmontese Gazette announces, on the authority
of a letter from Leghorn, that the city of Aleppo has made
its submission to the Sultan.

The Progres du Pas de Calais says, that on Sunday last
in one of the churches of Arras, a clergyman took bn him-
self to pronounce an anathema against the Marsvillaise.—
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