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London, England, 1841-09-18 00:00:00

EVE

IMPERIAL PARLIA3MNT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Sept. 17.
The t•qavikEa to.-•k the Chair at the usual hoar.
Mr- port,CoJirrtA.NE took the oaths and his scat for Brid-
the
billthe'ilternh roo
undreds m of Mr. Warburton, who had accepted
e.
i• "-r • S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from Wil-
„lv , 44'. Bullock weaver, of Biggar, Scotland. The pcti-
uaer stated that distress exists to an enormous extent
g''f-conc• the working classes. That this distress is pro-
crunceeby incoopolies, over taxation, and bad legislation
of various kinds, created by imperfect representation.
The petiti.aner, therefore, preyed that every man in the
real of ,ttne mind, and uncomictea of cri:no, and who
had attr,ined the age of 21 years, might have a vote Or
Alernb era of Parliament.
Mr-.I3ROTHERTON presented a petition from the
Young Men? Society
of Manchester, praying for the to-
tal rripeal of the Corn-laws,
'fr. COBDEN presc.tited petitions from the Inde-
Pe' adent congregatioa tdßirminghans and from upwards
Vt 300 of the inhal-Itants of King's Lynn, in public
:meeting assembled., prayiu for the aboliti•on of
the bread-tax. .Z.klso two petitions from Independent
congregations of Dissenters in Stone, Staffordshire, pray-
ing for the abolidon of the Corn-laws ; a petition from
the mei-libel-4 of u congregation of Protestant Dissenters
in Donstal-ale, praying f
corn or the; free admission of foreign
c into this Country; and a petition from the 'es-
e W
Sall congregation of Eccles, in favour of the 'repeal of
the. Corn-laws.
11,e 4' tABRDLEY WILY OT presented a petition from
u P"t'",:ign Anti-Slavery Society, complaining of British
subjee,'s encouraging F,sasrery, and praying for a Corn-
mitte e of that House `.o inquire into and report upon the
practices complaine,-a of.
Mr. VILLIERS,
resented a petition from distressed
imanufacturers in, North Derbyshire, complaining of the
Trivati"s unde-ts NT hich they were sefering, and praying
or the total repeal of the born-laws.
The SPEA
tchetayt-edtha rinti.cillt informed the House that he had re-
„ -''''' -mation from the Clerk of Recognizances,
election- p's'ecArities for the prosecution of the following
hester, -e 4tions were unobjectionable—Cardigan, Ro):
cton -'
`;•loticest Nottingham, Newry, Southami.
, and
._ er, i
not be ' 'el ral other places, -of which the names could
aearcl in the allery.
Mr - TIMBER DUTIES.
fl - • ROPE presented a petition from the Legislative
---olltle'land the House of Assembly of Canada,agair.st any alteration of the Timber Duties.

.•Pll IVA TEERING.
D. BARCLAY gave notice that e;rl an early day
,!vould
cer the re-assernbling,.of I'artiament the next year, he
. move for an address to her YAiiesty, praying her
MaJesty to use her influence wit'', all maritime States
to put down the barbarous pc-act...Ki of privateering, and
to obtain treaties from those, States, binding them to
suppress the practice amour' st their respective subjects.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNEI,E moved for a return of cer-
tain correspor.dence relAting to the late election for the
county of Ellrm an ag'.t.
Captain PECI-FALL moved that the continuation of
the returr is from the Commissioners of Assessed Taxes,
relating' to the -number of distresses issued since 1832,
prig .ted.—Ordered.

MINISTERIAL POLICY.
tbS' t
the. PEEL having moved the Order of R
se Hon go into a Committee of Supply, the Day
dl-4°l*(l JOHN RUSSELL rose, and was for a consi-
erable time utterly inaudible, in consequence of
noise made by' Members hurrying to their
aces. We. -understood him to say—Sir. I rise
make a few observations before the question is
Pat, aecoa ding to what I stated last night, it was my
intention to do. Presumin that this is a motion for a
°ll3llVttee of Supply for the purpose of placing a sum
of Inr,ney at the disposal of the Crown, I consider it a fit-
occasion on which to state the view I have taken
0f the present state of the country, and of the course
Vvhich the -Right Hon. Gentleman has informed the
dI
ouse he means to pursue. Before Igo into this topic,
Wish to advert to one or two topics which are of great
-public Importance. With respect, Sir, to our foreign
relaticres, it does not appear to me to be feces-
that for any reason connected with them,
that Parliament should continue to be assembled. The
Fate of Europe happily holds out every prospect of the
continuance of peace. The Speech which her Majesty
'was advised to address to Parliament, at the opening of the
;Session, gave the information that the temporary separati
'which had taken place between this country and Fmice
had ceased, and that the most amicable relati: jot then
prevailed between the two countries. Sir,. T 'nave every
„hope that, these amicable relations will cor:Anue.—(Hear.)
I hope chat the life of the Prince ',vb.:, now reigns over
the esestinies of that county -will long be spared
and be preserved from the attaaws of infatuated assassins
(Cheers)—and whether -we regard the happiness of
l`rance, or the peace of T.lurope, the preservation of that
Prince's life must be 'aesired by every well-constituted
mind.—(Hear, hen;', hear.) In one part of our
foreign relations there is certainly a question
in connection wit;„ the United States, which, in some of
its aspects, •atfords cause of uneasiness ; but my
Noble Friand, as Secretary for Foreian Affairs,
satisfied t'ae House by the answer of the tin
?ted States'
Secretary, that both her Majesty's r.iovernment and
the Go'iernment of the United States are perfectly agreed
as to :the character which shoule, be attributed to the
attack upon, and the, capture. of, the Caroline—(Loud
ehe ers)—that it was a question to be debated between
zurtion and nation, and not to be treated as a private
avronp,.. A sufficient view, however, had been
-taken by the Judges of the State of New York,
and if that view should be earned out, it would be de-
structive of all amicable relations between the two Go-
vernments. If two Governments were not to decide if a
question was irsternational, or between private indi-
viduals, and. any Judge had the power of deciding
that a question which the Government considered national
was a subjesa for the Local Courts, no amicable relation
could subsist between the two States.—(Hear, hear.)
I have 'read the judgment of the Judges who decided
-this Ca? e, and in that judgment it seemed to be admitted
that Vie two Executive authorities had agreed that the
case was one which should be decided between the two
Gtmernments. But the Judge who had decided that
circa had stated it as his own opinion that it could not
'e considered as a case of war, and therefore that
:it was a proper one to he decided by his own
-tribunal. It appears to me that this is a doctrine to
which no Government can agree. For, according to
this doctrine, if Sir Graha.An Moore, or any other officer
who had captured the Spanish frigates at the beginning
of the Spanish war, should be taken before a Spanish tribu-
nal, it would be equally competent to the Judge of that
tribunal to say there was no declaration of war at the
time these captures were made, therefore the captures are
piratical, and the officers engaged in them are liable to be
convicted of murder. But on the whole it appears that,
although such may be the construction of the law adopt-
ed by the State of New York ; yet, considering
what has been stated on one side by Mr. Fox, and
• on the other by Mr. Webster, with regard to cir-
cumstances attending the capture of the Caroline, and
the accordance of opinion existing on that subject—
(llear)—l do not believe that the authorities of
Amoz..rica will permit any occurrence to take place
'wb:ich will expose any subject of her Majesty to danger
fr,r executing the commands or his Sovereign. I therefore
-feel convinced that. while S:ae two Governments are agreed,
it; is not likely that therel will arise any cause of war
between the two countries, I am sure that there prevails
in this country, sand I trust that there prevails in Ame-
rica also, the s„eengest desire that peace may be preserved
between th ese two great countries.—(Chtrers.) Having
thus allu':led to the only matter which appears to me to
re.quire any -remark as regards our foreign relations. I
will now wake one remark on the recent appointments
-which the' Right Hon. Gentleman has thought it right to
make a', respects the Government of Ireland. I have
Apnea 'those appointments with great satisfaction._
(Cher Ts.) I see in them evidence that the Right Hon.
Gend.leman is determined to carry into effect those con-
cilisstory opinions which he has so often expressed with
l'es,;ard to that country.—(Hear, hear.) I entertain the
ghest respect for the character of the new Lord Lieu-
tenant; and, with regard to the Noble Lord who has been
-appointed Secretary for Ireland, I think that that Noble
'Lord has shown on various occasions a desire to place
the people of Ireland in that condition with which alone
they ought to be satisfied—a condition of equality with
the other people of the United Kingdom.—(Cheers.) I may
add, lilcewise, that I trust that the Noble Lord, the Chief
Secretary for Ireland-,, will not re-introduce a measure,
whie'n, in the hall& of' another Noble Lord, (Stanley)
had, already been agitated in this House.—(Cheers.)
rex I feel by that measure the contract entered into with
the people of Ireland in 1829 will be violated, and.
'that it cannot be adopted without speedily and
utterly destroying the character of the representation
of the people of Ireland.—(Cheers.) I say I have
great confidence that Lord Eliot will not countenance
any Bill of that nature in this House.—(Cheers.) An.
I
trust that what has passed of late years to consolidate
the peace of that country, will receive yet further deve-
lopment ; and that, in every step taken by that Noble
Lord, he will, endeavour, as far as possible, to meet the
views and expectations which have been entertained of him,
acting, of course, under the advice, and by the directions,
of the Light Hon. Gentleman.—(Cheers.) I come now
to that part of the subject which it is my misfortune to
'differ -widely from her Majesty's Government. We are
n°%' met in pursuance of an intimation, first given by the
Right Hon. Gentleman, but in which the members of turd Melbourne's Government perfectly concurred, that
7 &gem after the dissolution as possible, it would be de-
!lrrsble that Parliament should be re-assembled, in order to
t2lke into consideration the important affairs of the nation.
,teensiderahle interruption was here occasioned by the
-"Id tone in which Sir Francis Burdett was carrying on
'a Conversation with some Hon. Member on the Minis-
leritil bench. The voice of the Hon. Baronet completely
'drowned that of Lord John Russell for some moments,
When loud cries of " Order" induced the Hon. Baronet
loniewhat to lower his tone.) The Noble Lord con-
!lolled—Her Majesty was advised by her late Ministers,
411! the Speech delivered at the opening of Parliament,
.t.O advise the House to take into its considera-
tion the laws relating to the trade in corn.
4` Her Majesty is desirous that you should consider the
laws which regulate the trade in corn. It will be
for you to determine whether these laws do not
aggravate the natural fluctuations of supply, whether
they do not ernbarress trade, derange currency, and,
by their Operation, diminish the comfort and increase
the privations of the great body of the community."
The importance of these considerations no person can
doubt. Laws which embarrass trade, derange the currency,
andincrease the privations of the great body of the corn-
baunity, supposing such to be their effect, ought at once to
be altered. There can be no more solemn duty than for
Parliament to alter those laws which have such a per-
nicious effect. In answer to that speech as ad-
dressed to the Crown, in these words—" We as-
iii.i•o your 11, jesty that we are deeply sensible
, of the importance of those considerations to which
your Majesty has been pleased to direct our attention with
sreferenoe to the commerce and revenues of the country,

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