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TRP, !tN, LONTNOW, FRIDAY. JULY 24, mit).

T I BUN AL OF

CORREH,

A care of swireitine to in utiusur3 extent, the unit
obiained arnountima- to 1,400,000 fraccs.l
has o;!cupied tee "I. ihuo,tl of GA-roc:maid 1 olic9 :it
Corbeil for four successive da}s. Tne widow Caste de
Guillemin, aged 57, Caillon, her secretary, a:A elef.
Burgaud, member of the Council-General of the dep irt-
ment of the Charente, were charged, the two first with
having swindled a great number of persons of large
sums of maney, and M. Bat-gaud with having acted us
their accomplice. The widow Coste de Guide i nen ap-
peared in a very plain dress, perfectly calm, and at
times smiling. Her small grey eyes and sharp nose
gave her an appearance of cunning. The number of
witnesses was considerable.
The first witness calied was the Countess of Cha-
vigny, who deposed that she had first met Madame
Guillemin at the house of her cousin, Madame de Mar-
liac. Madame Guillemin pretended to be their relation,
and she believed her. She talked much of her opu-
lence, ar.d the witness was incliaed to credit what she
said, as she had a secretary, a demo de compenie, the
Marchioness d'Annehaux, a physician attached to her
household, and a carriage and large establishment.
She talked to the witness of her intention to pur-
chase the mills of Corbeil. After the purchase of
the mills, Madame Guillemin called upon her in
her carriage ; and when she left, the servants of the
Countess did nothing but talk of what they had heard
from Madame Guillemia's servants about the ex-
tensive possessions of their mistress. Madame de
Guillemin had borrowed 1,0001. of the witness, which
was repaid a few days afterwards, and during the works
at Corbeil the Countess lent her 3,000 f, for which she
took shares in the mills at Corbeil, Madame Guillemin
having formed a Joint Stock Company for them.
Herve, the servant of the preceding witness, said that
in consequence of the floe picture given to him by
Madame Guillemin's coachman of her lands and houses,
he concluded she was very rich, and took al,ooof. share
in the Cempany of the Alias at Corbeil.
The Countess de Lastours stated that she had be-
come acquainted with Madame Guillemin at the house
of Madame de Mediae, the sister-in-law of the witness.
Mme. Guillemin, who pretended to be related to them,
talked inueh of her wealth, end said her father was the
Count de Groliere. At one time be wished to give to
the son of witness her immense forest of Montfort of
4,000 acres ; and another time she said she wished to
sell to her 1,800 acres of wood-land for a life annuity.
When she had purchased the mills of Corbel], nod had
commenced the works, she borrowed frJrn the witness
30,0001., and successively from 140,000 f. to 180,0001.
The Counti.ss de GratVoild said she had met with
Mine. Guillemin in an omnibus going to Nouilly. They
became int:mate, and the mild manners of the accused
fascinated her. Her secretary spoke in raptures of her
splendid fortune. By a series of fraud and deception
she contrived ultimately to obtain 59,500 f train the

witness.
Mine. Nau de la S tuvagere was next examined-
Tne accused had gained her acquaintance by stating tha,
she was a relative. Before she passed for rich her bust
bind had received her in his house, and lent her I,ooof.
without interest, which had never been repaid.
M. Pasquier de Saint Projet had taken 30,000 f. in
shares in the mills, on the personal guarantee of the ac-
cused ; but, becoming uneasy on the subject, he had an
interview with M. Bargaud, who, after having in vain
attempted to tranquillize him, coasented to pay the
money for Mme. Guillemin.
Lirut -Colonel Obry said he had been fool enough to
lend Mme. Guillemin 10,000 f., which he now looked
upon as lost.
M. Laurent had been appointed cashier of the Cem-
pany, at a salary of 2,000 f., which he had never re-
ceived. He had also expended 1,800 i: of his own
money in advances to workmen.
A woman named Cresson stated that she had been
engaged by Mme. Guillemin as cook. She had never
received any wages, and had lent linen to her mistress,
and also four shares of the Caisse Hypotheeaire. Be-
sides the value of these shares, Mme. Guillemin owed
her wages and 4001. which she had advanced.
Au old lady of 70 stated that she had, twelve years
ago sold property to Mine. Guillemin, who had never
paid for it, and had damaged it to the extent of
15,000 f.
The Counsel for Mme. Guillemin asked this witness
if her husband had not been under obligations to h i
client—whether her husband had not been accused of
murder, and found a refuge at Mine. Guillemin's from
the offices of justice? The witness replied, that the
accusation against her husband lied been almost imme-
diately abandoned. Witness was then asked if there
were not some medals, and replied as follows :—" A
mason had found a treasure of medals, or old gold and
silver coins. He asked my husband how he could
change them, and my husband having advised him to
take them to Bordeaux, the mason asked him to accom-
'party him to the spot. They set out one evening, and
having arrived at a7steep place bordered by a precipice,
my husband said, Go that way if, you like, I shall take
another med. The mason went up the steep part, dis-
appeared, and was never heard of afterwards."
M. Gadhot said he knew the accused first in 1834,
and was then two years without hearing of her, wlTen
M. Burgaud informed him that he had seen her in
Paris with Ceilion, that she had found her old aunt,
and had purchased the mills of embed, which were
wzth from two to three millions. M. Burgaud urged
: daring
with him in the purchase of them for
him t,01,200000f. ._ confidence in M. Burgaud, who
so
.f/rvourable to Mine. Guille-
had made statemeet.a"
to his debt to the extent of
min, lie allowed her to get :."
85,000 f., which she still owed to :ii ii,
M. Pleignard, a notary, knew lltne. Guillemin more
than 30 years ago, when she was living with his rela-
tives. His relatives supported her 0010 humanity.
She had, by borrowing at different times, got possession
of all the fortune of her aunt, esnounttog to between
35.000 f. and 40,0001. He knew that the poor Mar-
qu:se d'Annebaux was now it Ltuban withona roeourees,
end supported by her uncle the Cure. At the age of
45, Mine. Guillemin married M. Coste, who, ries then
7.5. In 1830 she abandoned him and eerie of with
Caidon.
The written deposition of the Marquise d'Annehaux
was then read. It stated that she was 88 years of
ege, and had lent from 50,000 f. to 60,0001. to Madame
Guillemin, of wham she spoke in high terms.
The President now interrogated Niaclame Guillemin.
From her tins sers it appeared that she had airivad in
Paris with 7,0001. or 8,0001., and began by hiring a
little shop in the rue Sainte Antoine, not to sell herself
she said, but to place some person in it. She lied come
into several small inheritances, and it she had pur-
chased an hotel in Paris, and the mills at Coshed, it
was because she relien on recovering large sums from
M:ssrs. Seuchere, which had been transferred to her,
and upon the immense claims ceded to her by the
Marquise d'Annebaux.
The President then interrogated Cailloa, who said he
was the steward and homme d' affaires of Coste and his
wife. He declared that he had entire faith in the re-
sources of Male. Guillemin, and of the advantages pro-
mised by the affair of Corbeil. He protested that he
bad not been actuated by any wrong intentions.
M. Burgaud was next interrogated. He said Mme.
Guillemin owed him, in 1834, 44,000 f. She now owed
him 132,000 f. In 1836, he found her by chance in
Paris living in apparent opulence, and in great intimacy
with a Marquise d'Annebaux, who celled her her niece,
and her hale Duchess de Montfort, in allusion to the
claim which she had ceded to her fur a forest illegally
taken possession of by the state. He therefore imagined
she had found her old aunt, and, Gavin; confidence,
made fresh advances. The affair of Corbeil appeared
to him to be so good that lie did not hesitate to guaran .
tee the 30,0001. to M. de Saint Prajet.
The Avocet du Roi then addressed the tribunal, and
called for the punishment of Mine. Guillemin and Cail-
lon. As to M. Burgaud, he should defer to the discre-
tion of the tribunal.
The tribunal then retired, and after a deliberation of
an hour and a half, decided on adjourning the trial to
the 14th of August, when other witnestes arc to be
heard.
M. Burgaud was allowed to be at liberty, and his
word was taken to appear again on the day above named.
T I has

VACCINATION IN AusTR A LlA—Great anxiety
appears to prevail among the Australian colonists on the subject
of vaccination. A disease something similar in appearance h
been known to exist among the aborigines, and may in time be
communicated to the colonists. Should such an event occur,
says the Sydney 1. erald (March 16), it is dreadful to think of
the havoc which must result; for the portion of our juvenile
population who have undergone the process of vaccination is
comparatively small, arid nothing but the actual existence of
the disease in the colony will induce the many thoughtless fa•
i thers and mothers to avail themselves of the means of its pre-
I vention which the Government has humanely placed at their
disposal. About three years ago the supply of vaccine lymph
in the colony failed, and for two years the colonists were with-
out the means of procuring vaccination for their children, until
aaesly was obtained from Van Diemen's Land. The same
sue:heat may occur again, and should the small pox appear at
a ertsts, the devastation it would occasion A ould be fearful.
The danger, however, is in a great measure obviated by the
recent discovery of Mr. Ceely, relative to the identity of small
pox and cow pox, which we need not now describe. Both the
Van Diemen's Land and the Sydney papers abound with die-
cesoions on this subject. —South Australian record.
LONDON AND BLACKWALL RAILWAY._—No
fewer than 67,154 persons were conveyed on -he London and
Blackwall Railway darringltheuutierist, eleven dye from the op p-
ing, and this. although ob;itlitiuus
fit e of rail is yet open arid the
from being
accommodation at the
no
numbaerr
it will very soon be.
been much larger had the Comoin(i)aftiju's arrangements
el 'iic
have
eaa t'al' !'s•
on s presented
number, n day
it i, calculated
,inatiitttedupo%fcarrndosre
offi•eq2zyuot trains.pers
themselves at
as appears from
the sq ver al stations, and out of that
understand, in
the retools, not more than 8,313 could bwee accommodated.
trains
The second line of rails will be opened,
the course of .a fortnight, and the despatch
will lys much simphied and accelerated. Alreadof several
steam-boats are advertised as starting from the terminusywah at
, Blackwall. The mode adopted 4)r working the rail
; we hear, given the fullest satisfaction to t4s Directors and en-
' emu!.
' gineers of the Company. In fact they no longer loo';
neon it
as an experiment, and although various minor improvements
will, of course, suggest themselves in practice, the soundness of
the principle is placed beyond question. It would be quite im-
possible to work the Blackviall line by locomotive power, for
although less than four miles in length, there are already three
Istations intermediate between the termini. Another station
will be opened in a few weeks, arid afifth in the course of the
season.—.ltai/way Times.

AN AWKWARD MISTAKE.—A circumstance
a they
Sunday.position. firstr
y
t
of a novel and amusing nature occurred on Fridly in the
county Court, before Mr. Sergeant Green, while trying an
appeal from a decree obtain .d by a person named Margaret
O'Brien v. Keating, a minor. Mr. Freeman was engaged
on the part of O'Brien, the applicant, and, having been
handed his instructions in Court, cone ived he was employed
f.r the other party, and accordingly showed that the delen-
dant was a minor, and consequently not liable to be decreed.
His Lordship agreed with the Learned Counsel, and the rule
was abou' to be taken down, when he was informed by 3lr.
Darcy, the attorney for O'Brien, that he had been " in the
wrong box," and, amidst the laughter of :he Court, in which
his Lordship joined, he very gravely commenced upsetting his
aen
echev ,aedann,
scene.—Limerick
dic4eh:
i,ie,
, .a,however,lsieLtniditl m
eoeo
waset
ir
ivet
five
accordingly
,i businessChronicle.,)c n
own argument, and quoted several eases in support of his new
oenffsZttuedal,ly inafter
train was on
n. toieffa,raßndonhtteo.ritli:
ctphitt.eh,a)tttiowf
esarmaeasnt tz:(1,
tifftusel a'nvl riayoynjf from
IT'it'i. sal;b"br brother-in-law, r-in- l a w , J . Cooke, and when the rosins
was at 2:i-inile speed, jumped off to recover it! The train
was stopped as quickly as possible, and the poor man was taken '
up ..,,nsdess. On his arrival at the Brentwood station surgical 1
aQ;tance was speedily procured, and on examiirttion an ex-
being found necessary, it was performed, but he is
teWive fractun- of the skull was discovered. The opera ion of
trepanning
now -7 1' 'dent was occasioned by the unfortunate
lt.i„,, at Great Warley withnut the smallest hope of re-
covery. The accident
R —Courvciister, when in the sir-
Coun VOISIE .
M.P., resided for some time on the banks
tor
vice of Mr. Fen ,
of the Cairn, and
was
sll to be a most attentive servant, not onlywell known in the surrounding district.
own rashness.—Essex Herald.
man's
He was remarked by a
visiters, and always conducted himself in such a manner as to
4ppear to be a respectable and trustworthy person. He once
T
to his immediate employrs. but to any of their friends and
figured at 4 r-eddiog at Thornhill, where his dancing powers
were he bard }resented to his
were much admired, and
gentleman of th tt village, a ring which
appeared
sr,e. were shown the other day, by a
was of his own
to be formed of bone, curiously ornamented,
, and neatness
manufacture, and slid great credit to his ingenuity
partner on the festive occasion. This trinket, which
' a f hand.—Dumfries Courier.

OWERIAL PARLIAM EN

HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 03.
ROYAL ASSENT.
a ;.,:t.„l was given at tour o'cloi k, by C. 411-
I he fOiIOW:Ug
Mr. Speaker reported the Royal Assent to Canada
Government Bill, Vaccination liill,Police-rates Assess-
ment Bill, Timber Ships Bill, Borough 'Watch Rates
Bill, Masters in Chancery Bill, Inclosure Acts Amend-
ment Bill, Episcopal Church (Scotland) Bill, Arms
(Ire'and) Bill, Birmin2ham, Bristol, and Thames
Junction Railway Bill, Taff Vale Railway Bal. Ardros-
san and Johnstone Railway Bill, Glasgow, Paisley.iland
Greenock Railway Bill, Elinburgh and Glasgow Rail-
way (No. 2), Bill, Dublin and Drogheda Railway
(No. 2) Bill, Hartlepool Dock and Railway Bill,
Mill Bay (Devon) Pier Bil, Banf Municipal Police
Bill, Clcrkenwell tmprovement Bill, Deal and Wilmer
Waterworks Bill, Austin's Patents Bill, Niivicastle-
undiir-Lyme, Bluth Marsh, &c. Roads Bill ; G irnzad
Read Bill, Warrington School Bill, Lady Ruthven's
Estate Bill, Mowbray's Estate all, Doddington Rec-
tory B 11, Angerstein's Estate Bill, Stanley's Charity
B• 11, Bacon's Estate Bill, Shuttleworth's Estate Bill,
Gravenor's Estate Bill, Woodhouse's Estate Bill,
Racklcy Grange Estate Bill, Swingfiell Minnis
Inelo-
sure Bill, Dean's Divorci! Bill, Wari's Divorce Bill.
The Lords Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor,
the Earl of Shaftesbury, and Lora Clarendon.
Their Lordships then adjourned during pleasure.

Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock.
ECCLESIASTICAL DUTIES' AND REVE-
NUES' BILL.
Lord RAVENSWORTH presented a petition from
Durham against the Ecclesiastical Duties and Revenues
Bill, in so far as respected the diocese of Durham,
which the petitioners prayed their Lordships to take
into their most favourable consideration.
The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a peti-
tion from the University of Oxford against the Eccle-
siastical Daties and Revenues Bill. He said that he
entirely differed from the petitioners, who, indeed,
showed, by some of their own statements, the
necessity there was for such a measure. Tney com-
plained of the parochial deficiency of the
Church of England at this time. But (said the Noble
Duke with very great warmth) it is vain for any man
in these times to expect the deficiency will be made up
out of the public money, whilst the Church has in itself
resources that may be applied to the purpose. I
say, my Lords, that all the resources which the Church
possesses should be applied to supply that deficiency,
and to remove those inconveniencies. The petitioners
themselves admit that the evil exists and it is most
desirable, both for the public good and for the good of
the Church itself, that those ineonvenieneies should
be remedied and removed. ' I confess, therefo-e,
that I heard with astonishment that this petition
was got up in the University of Oxford, and that
these petitioners prayed that the Bill should not
pass. My Lords, I sin of a very different opinion from
the petitioners. lam convinced that no measure could
he devised which could more tend to remedy the
evils, and to remove those very inconveniences of
which the petitioners themselves complain in this pe-
tition, and which they say truly attend the parochial
system of the Church in this country. I think, my
Lords, the Ecclesiastical Commissioners did their duty
in recommending this Bill. I think it highly creditable
to the Church that those inconveniences should be re-
moved by the Church itself. I think it highly credit-
able that the Church should even take the first step in
removing those evils, without applying for the assistance
of the public money.
Lord KENYON presented a petition from Canter-
bury against the Ecclesiastical Duties and Revenues
Bill. He supported the prayer, and considered the
I3ill a robbery. He hoped their Lordships would send
it to a Committee up stairs, where they might hear the
opinions of persons who were well acquainted with the
matter to which it referred.

The petition was then read at length at the table.
The Bishop of DURHAM presented several peti-
tions from his Diocese, signed by the Clergymen of
various parishes, and a great majority of the parishioners,
praying that no further abstraction might be made irom
the revenues of the diocese of Durham, but that the
surplus funds might be applied to supply the spiritual
wants of the diocese.
Several Bills were brought up from the House of
Commons.
Lord R EDES DALE presented a petition from the
Licensed Victuallers of the Town of Nottingham, pray-
ing for an alteration of the Beer Bill.
The Bishop of SALISBURY presented a petition
from the Dean and Canons of the King's Free Chapel,
Windsor. against the Ecclesiastical Duties and Re-
venues Bill. Also a petition from two individuals
claiming compensation for the loss of office should the
Bill pass into a law.
Tivi Bishop of ROCHESTER presented petitions
from the Clergy of Canterbury and Rochester against
the Bill.
The Bishop of CHICHESTER presented similar
petitions from Farnham and Allsop.
Toe Earl of CHICHESTER presented a petition
complaining of British troops being compelled to assist
at llindoo and Mahomedan worship in India, and pray-
ing the immediate interference of her Majesty's Govern•
went to put an end to such practices;
The Bishop of LONDON had intended to put certain
questions to her Mijestv's Government touching an
iGi‘t;:titilevwd,eieatbr.d:noe Government
oni est noti tat askktiveteoen
anynt wiohne
stttloieepmrsioi
nee.
assurance that had been given in consequence
p ut
to a
tnth
eat the
tn
end to
o T Christiantuh Tuesday
st
tia ycryingn e next
public
ta bi
ut
was
.a
s thatahi
He
of a motion made by him in the course of last
Session. lie might rather say that the assurance
country, that measures would be taken by the
joisiptieyien'sst
ofGo fouvuteyiriandtni:ent in..
begged now to state,
pledge.p a t c e
s
and statements of ally orders issued by the Governor-
General of India to the Piesidi ncies of Bengal and
t4ino p s at
oil..iirdeLl ai4itelroopuruse
sitwe s‘E, hdi.,phoairdn known,
Madras on the subji•et of the attendance of British
Lorc
not
utiuta
himself to to give the information ieciuired by the Noble
ldh
atvhea
pt
rtel the
rpeed-
Earl. As far as he was at present informed, he believed
the Government had done every thing that could be
expec•ed upon the subject.
Petitions to the same effect from Davenport, were
presented by herd Mount Edgecurnbe ; and from Bristol
and Lancaster, by the ga4 pf Chichester.
The Earl of pOWi. presen#4l i petition (as we
understood) from Carnarven, righinet any grant tq the
Chester and Holyhead kailWfty. •
Lord STA NLEY (of Alderley) thought it right on
titnt
,oceasieo to call their Lordships'' to a cU•-
c4liiiitanee that almost amounted. to a breach of privilege.
Two gentleman, vih )se 44tRe§lts7rp ettacheil to the pre
sent petition, had some time iqin sent, n,petitiori to the
House in which they stated :that he beieg,a landowner
;id the .:island of Anglesey, procured through his son, who
was Ai,' ;jeoretary to the Treasury, the selectiOn of the-
the by the Government to survey the
two linesla the Riailgral 44estgoo, The petitioners
He.aiiii.trecU their Lordship' that their was no founda-
tion whatever, for the imputation.
'the
.earl of PO WIS said there was no allegation in
the Petitiou.ng4i.ast the Noble Lord.
Lord ;BROUGH presented a petition from the
county it:,,Derhem against the B;;desiotigal Duties
;and ReveWttes and praying that the ease of that
diocese might be taken into consideration,
The Earl of DEVON proem hied a similar petition
from Glastonbury,•.kthe diocese of Bath and Wales.
The Earl of*AttWICK, presented a petition
from the Licen4ed Tic:Wailers of 13ixrftiagb4m against
the Beer Bill.
Lord PORT NI AN :2
presented a similar petition from
the Licensed Victuallers of Liverpool.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE brought up the Report
of the Select Corntn'ttee on the Weaver Churches
Bill, which had not been altered by the Committee.
After some discussion the Report was received, apd it
was agreed to take a discassion on the third reading, of
which due notice will be giver"
pe-
tition From a large body
The Marquis of WESTMINSTER presented a pc-
(l2o in number)
employed in the Weaver navigation against the Weaver
Churches Bill, a measure which they regarded as being
frauAt with the most s•rioos consequences.
The Bishop of LONDON thought the sentiments
of workmen
contained in the petition, if indeed they were the sen-
timents strongest arguments that
1-
pur-
ported to come, were the • • •
I
could be urged to their Jorud salps in favour of the
timents of the poor uneducated men from whom it pur-
measure.
Lord STANLEY presented a petition from Chester
against the Bill, and stating that the petitions in favour
of the Bill had been hawked about to the children's
schools in the districts: AO their signatures affixed to

then..
The EArl of RIPON was rather surprised that theso
tatement, had not, b.,en laid before the House before
ivroounri
the Bill went into Giromitt`'.
said that a &erg:prim) bad,
Toe Dishop of LONDON presrnkd a petition in fa-
stiowTneehf(i)prietioestmrip:uxvlkßepleiliitil,liP spokenitil ibnecila) your of the titeasuiT, but
surely it could not be considered a crime for a cicr-
'groan to address his neighbours on the subject of the
spiritual destitution of his district.
The Marquis of WESTMINSTER said the Bill
violated mosnnttgousfdtrioessntuti..noorronst.aHly:
Kingston-on-Hull,
lyiAgettshoitf
the Chimney
He wo4ld
EtßheLgAreNatDbotplyre9sefnttleide eaoupnettriy.
a petition from the were decidedly against the Bill. ,
net praying
le tor
gLhite Licensed e de'RV-teri
against the Beer Bill. olreland,f Portsmouth
Toe Bishop of LONDON presented
the Dean and Gluons of Windsori
nf wouArlsool the Ecelcsin-
atlical Ditties and Revenues Bill.'
from the Minor Canons of St. Paul's, in favaourPcotifttiohe
Bill as it came up from the House of Commons.

REGENCY BILL. ! those professorships were was not stated, are: he seg.
The Regency Bill thee went through Committee, I geared th.,t it the Bill were considered in detail these
and was reported without am n ittmlits. 1 professorships should he stated The 17th section eave
ECCLESIASTICAL DUTIES AND REVS- 1 the power of rtaestahlishine ciinonries if they should he
NUES BILL. ii found uticessary. New he should say they ought
Several ode r Bits were then firwarded a stage, after \ riot to be soppy, s,ed if there were the least, doubt
wlech Course. was ordered to be celled in to be heard 'tan tee suhket. In is dubia nou agendum
against the Ecclesiastical Duties and Revenues Bill. The Learned Counsel then went through the various
Mr. KNIGHT BRUCE then appeared at the bar, and sections of the Bill, commenting on them as he pros
curled. The measure had been decided on in a time
said he appeared as Counsel against a Bill entitled the
of alarm, when the Church was considered in danger—
Ecclesiastical Duties and Revenues Bill, which had been
the danger was passed—let not the measure be
sent up to their Lordships from the House of Commons
perseverid in—why throw the cargo overboard
on Tuesday last. It had been introduced into the House
of Commons in the month of February ;it had not been when the danger of shipwreck was over ? A measure
so calculated to excite scandal and alarm ought not to
crommitted until the month of July. Great alterations
be passed except it were absolutely necessary. if
bail then been made in it, and on the thirl reading on
Monday last in the House of Commons, other alters-
means were wanted to provide for the spiritual wants
;ions were made. It had been impossible to obtain a
d
of the nation the nation was bound to provide the means
o rioted copy of the Bill as it had passed until within
from the national revenues. The Ecclesiastic ii Corn-
the last, forty-eight hours, and therefore it was irnpos-
missioners had abolished the bishopric of Sodor and
Man. Parliament, however, in consequence of the af-
sible that any speciric inetructioes could be given to
Pectin; appeal of the late Bishop, had retraced,
Counsel on the subject. It was agreed on all hands
its steps, and the bishopric was restored. To that pro-
Oat the Bill was cue of the deepest interest and im- test he would refer. The Learned Counsel then
eortanee, effecting as it did the entire Church of
quoted from the protest referred to, and said that those
England, whether for good or for evil Gad knew—they
lie represented were actuated by similar feelings. Ex-
i oeuld only conjecture. It was a question upon which i
p
the members of the Church were less in unison than Psediency was the plea of tyrants -with principle there
could be no compromise. This Bill did evil that un-
a s one of triumph to themselves, and of defeat to the avowed enemies—they one and all }tailed the measure
certain good might come ; and they were forbidden by
Church. Men of undoubted judgment and piety in the the highest authority to do evil that good might come
Church thought this an advisable measure. The Learned Counsel , having concluded his ar-
" Res dura cogit alia moliri." Egmont,
Those men seeing the consequences of the spoliation Viscount MELBOURNE said that no one could
of monks and Popes, of tyrants, and of courtiers, in the complain of the length to which the Learned Counsel
diminished efficiency of the Church, had considered it had gone—(Cheers)—but as they were to hear the
other Learned Gentleman, he would suggest that they
not immoral to adopt the present measure of confisca-
tion. He used that. term respectfully, but as the only should meet at an earlier hour to-morrow. He would
suggest four o'clock.
term in which he could describe the present measure.
But there were men of equal eirtue and piety who had Lord BROUGHAM agreed with the Noble Lord
that the Learned Counsel had not at all exceeded the
thought this measure fraught with danger, and such
proper bounds in his very learned and able argument.
were the opinions of those in whose behalf he had the
honour to appear. The measure was founded upon the He thought that four o'clock would be a very good hour
Second and Fourth Reports of the Ecclesiastical Cons-
to meet.
The oNCHES TER h that the
missioners. The directions given to them by the Royal Bishop
ldf notWI come on to-morroopedw, after the
Commission was to consider the present condition of
speech of the Learned Counsel.
the Cathedral churches, so as that they might be made
Viscount MELBOURNE said it, was desirable to
to conduce to the efficiency of the Established Church,
more particularly having in view the appointment of proceed with the Bill as soon as possible. These ob-
resident clereynien to the cure of souls. In page .5 of jeetions were new.
the Second Report, after stating the improvements that The Earl of DEVON said the Bill had only been
were desirable to •be made, they stated that the means it) their Lordships hands a few hours, and therefore
they had scarcely had time to become acquainted with it.
at their dispesal were very inadequate to effect the ins-
Viscount MELBOURNE said the Report of the
provernents required. In another part of the Report
Commissioners, on which the Bill had been founded,
they stated that they entered upon the inquiry relsting
to Collegiate .and Cathedral Churches with a feeling that had been in their Lordships' hands for four years ; how-
ever, if time were desired, he should not object, and
it their endowments were larger than necessary, the sir-
would fix a day for the second reading to-morrow.
plus ought to be devoted to the improvement of poor
livings. It was thus stated at the outset that the in- It was ultimetely agreed that their Lordships should
quiry had been entered upon under an impression that meet to-morrow at the usual hour, and the House ad.
decided the question without hearing evidence, and journed at Ten o'clock.
without melting inquiry. Upon the principles of this
Bill the revenues of Kent and Devonshire would be
applied to the spiritual wants of York and Lancashire,
without any attention to the will of the pious thunder.
This point had never been discussed, but at the
threshold had been taken for granted. The Report I
went oe to say that the Commissioners hoped the seed- i
flee which the Cathedral Churches would be called on
to make, would induce private individuals to assist in
the slate cause. To what a state must a national church
be reduced to come to this ? The total gross amount
which they thought might be obtained from the cathe-
dral property to be devoted to the cure of souls was
stated at about 134,0001. He knew that many persons
considered die fund to be thus obtained would be con-
siderebly less ; but as that fund was in fact a rever-
sionary fund, nothing like that amount could be ex-
pected at present ; and yet, according to the calculation
of the Commissioners, the sum necessary to raise the
livings to the small amount named by the Commissioners,
would be 235,000/. The relief, therefore, to be ob-
tained from the present alarming and unsettling mea-
sure, was of such a nature as, upon the whole, to he
scarcely felt. He would now come to the general
principles of the Bill, which had been elucidated in a
paper, entitled " The case of the petitioners ;" which
was in the hands of their Lordships.—(The Learned
Counsel then quoted largely from the paper referred
to, which stated the object of the Bill to be the sup-
pression of a great number of Church offices, and trans-
ferring the revenues to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners,
ten of whom held their offices at the will of the Crown.)
The Bill contained a most important clause, which had
been introduced during the present month, adding all
the Bishops of England and Wales to the Commission,
.vhich was, ecclesiastically speaking, put upon a much
mere proper footing than that in which it formerly stood.
But why had not this been done originally? had this been
originally done, was it clear that any such recommen-
dations as these would have proceeded from the Com-
mission ? . He contended their Lordships were bound
to consider these propositions as if they had been sub-
mitted to a Commission originally thus composed. It
had not been their Lordships' habit to pass lightly any
measure connected with property, or to exercise lightly
that power of dealing with property which every Le-
gislature theoretically possessed. Parliament did not
morally possess the power of confiscating property, and
there was no difference between the fee-simple of a
property being vested in an individual or in a body cer-
porate. There were nearly corporations which had tin-
limited power over their property, even to alienation.
Their Lordships might restrict these powers of aliena-
tion, but wow(' they take tile property away ? The
Dears and Chapters, but for the statute 13th Rie e.
heat, were absolute masters of their property, and up
to that time could have disposed of their property as
they. liked, and were under no cantrol whatever as to
their manner of dealing with their property. How
could they reconcile, then, to any notions of justice the
takieg, away the property of the Deana and Chapters
without their consent ? The Act of Elizabeth was only
for the benefit of the successors, and if they took the
property away from the successors, they did away with
the Act of Efiz4beth, and the property was their own
to do what they liked with, and by this Bill they were
depriving the Deans and Chapters of the fee eirop'e
of that which was their own. The gifts to the Deans
and Chapters were gifts devoted to different purposes,
which were specifically pointed out ; in many instances
they were given by private individuals. In the case of
the deanery of' Exeter, in the Court of Queen's Bench
it had been decided that the power of appointing the
Dean was in the Chapter, and the foundation was a
private one. This Biil confiscated the Kronage of
that deanery, and vested it in the Crown. There was
no analogy to justify the taking away property from one
district, and applying it to tna spiritual wants of
ennther.—( Hear, hear, heir.) Such a principle had
not beep acted on in the Mrseicipal Corporations Dili,
andeayby should one principle be acted On with regard
to civil corporations, and eeother with regard to eccle-
siastical ones ? The legitimate mode of dealing with
any surplus would be to apply it to andegous purposes
in the immediate district, and not until those el: ions hed
been setisfied could expediency come io, No claimed
this Qn 4ehtllf fl( Otos() whAro he repre4entoJ, and if
this were wit dqne, grievous injustice would be done
both to the dead and to the living, who would be de-
prived of those benefits which the founder had in-
tended they should. enjoy. In a surplusnrisipee fsero
cheritekle 19tItt(tV914 til9 itit•Ctl49,a, of the fonder
were alwaye looked tie, am.f the sorplus was never de-
voted to general purposes. In whatever way this pro-
perty wee eonsidered, the result was the same—thee
had co moral right tq diyert ow tqqoltiwis froro the
purposes of the.
founder ; end if' it were impossible
tre parry those intentions into effects then they were
bound tq appropriete it to sonic ana'agous purpose.
Those for whom he appeared had no personal interest in
the matter, its their personal rioilite were preserved, And
he considered that, dealing as this measure did with
matters of religion, this reservation of individual right
made the measure still more objectionable. They
ought not tq hear of vested rights in rposere of re,
ligion. ff this measure were just and holy, why was it
delayed? If these Right Reverend Members of the
Commission believed this to be necessary, why did they
not come forward, and, from their own revenues, sup-
ply this deficiency, which was necessary for the eervice,
of go 9 494 if Oli§ were tr, tiell'iMrif 14r the service
ei. God, it was a tagraqt volatiun of private property.
A. little more than half a century ago a similar plan had
been proposed, and, after having been well considered
by the heads of the Church, it woe thoeght to he
spectoqs, het not wheleeome ; and 'Bishop Wateon's
scheme fell to the ground. The t ffsct of this measure
would be to bring the public mind tq eoesidee the
clergy as etipendieriee of the f titte ; and at was paiofel
in looking at the dehateewhich had taken placein another
place on this Bill .to see how prevalent that opinion
was. There was one part if the Act which as set had
attracted no attention. There was a Bill now in the
lioq4e of g3tprperts respectiog the living of Farnham,
and great attention had been drawn to the claims of the
lessees to compensation. In this Act property to a
lerge amount was taken from the Chapters, and vested
in the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. What was to be-
sgme of the lessees fie believed the; etoorieous class
GI proprietors had not flee Slightest idea of the position
in which they stood ; they would be ruin,•d. He ap-
prehended that under this Bill the Ecclesiastical Com-
missioners had not the power of reuewleg their leases.
He beseeched their Lordships to consider t,119 ep.l oi.
OIL? nfirOcfoore Wtl)' of I''T4b"'Sl ti'-' liesveaed their
Lordships to consider the nature of the oaths t tken by
the Bishops to the Chapters, and by the Chapters to
the Bishops, on their installation. He solemnly
claimed, on the part of the Chapters he rtefee,
sented, the performance by t+e Vsdlop ' of/ the
paths he had taken i they refused to eeleese him from
and
ili hail' solehaeedy claimed the performance of it.
a
(The Learned Counsel here read 3erieooi 0,.
4,0h3 tatieq b.T ',%ri?94 1,3,4qpg tO their O rso
bepts
ue.
p4t.
.it fa their Lordships to consider how
far any active furtherance of the present mea-
sure was consistent with those oaths. The Bill
proposed to suppress upwards of 400 dignitaries
and the number of canons proposed to be reteeem ,m,
he censi beret!, inadequate te She oerferreance of the
duties required. Two canonrics were to be retained at
Oxford and to be annexed to two professorships. What

HOUSE OF COMMONS, JULY 23.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock.
NEW MEMBER.
Mr. CHARLES HOWARD, the new Member
for Cumberland, in the room of the late Major Aglionby,
was introduced by Lord Morpeth and Lord Seymour,
and took the oaths and his seat.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.

The Usher of the Black Rod then entered the
House, and summoned the Speaker to attend the House
of Lords for the purpose of hearing the Royal Assent
given to certain Bills, for which see Lords' Report.
Oa his return, the SPEAKER informed the House
of the Bills to which the Royal Assent had been given
by Commission.
On the motion of Sir H. PARNELL, the Shrews-
bury and Holyhead Road Bill was read a third time
and passed.
Mr. FRESH FIELD brought up the Report of
Committee on Trafford's Divorce all ; also, of the Com-
mittee on Cloze's Divorce Bill, which, after a short dis-
cussion, were read a third time and passed.
On the motion of Mr. FRES HFIELD Grant's
Divorce BM was read a. third time and passed.
Mr. E. J. STANLEY brought up the Report on
the Metropolis Improvement Bill. It was ordered to
be re-considered to-morrow, in a Committee of the
whole House.

FARNHAM RECTORY BILL.
Oa the Order of the D-y being moved for the third
reading of the Farnham Rectory Bill,
Sir R. H INGLIS moved that the third reading
should be postponed till Monday next.
Captain PECHELL wished that the Hon. Bare•
net should assign some reason for the postponement.
Mr. HUME said as the motion was not immediately
proceeded with he would move that the Bill should be
read a thirst. time that day six months.
Sir R. H. INGLIS would appeal to HAm. Members
on both sides" whether the course taken by the Hon.
Member for Kilkenny on the motion for postponing the
third reading of a private Bill was not unprecedented ?
He would leave the Hon. Member the grace of setting
such a preeed:•nt.
Mr. HUME considered the Bill in reality a public
one.
Mr. AGLION BY wished to ask whether a rumour
Which bad been afloat, were well founded, and whether
it was the intention of the Hon. Baronet, whenever the
third reading might come on, to attempt to introduce
such a clause as that which the House had rejected the
other evening. He could hardly persuade himself that
the Hon. Member entertained that intention.
- Sir R. H. INGLIS said the postponement 'vas not
for that object ; but he would not follow the extremely
inconvenient course of discussing the question on the
mere motion of the adjournment of the third reading of
a private Bill.
Mr. LA M BTO N wished to know if it were the
Right Hun. Baronet's intention to attempt to rescind
the decision of the House on the question of the Compen
sation clause?
Sir ROBERT INGLIS folded his arms, but gave
no answer to the question.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL wished to know whether
the Right Hun. Baronet would give notice to-morrow it
his object was to postpone the third reading for the
purpose of re-introducing the Compensation clause ; if
that we►e so, the House ought to be aware of his inten-
tion.

Captain PECIIELL said it was easy at once to set
the matter at rest by stating whether he intended to
repeal those clauses of the Bill. The answer of the
Right Hon. Bat (met would materially influence his vote.
Mr. GOULBURN thought if his Right Hon.
Friend ZAVO melee to-morrow, that would be sufficient.
Mr. UASTEIOPE said the House must presume
that such was the Right Hon. Baronet's altentiou from
his silence.
The Earl of DARLINGTON said the course
adopted by the Hon. Member for Kilkenny was most
unjustifiable, hat he would meet him with his own wea-
pons, and move that the debate be adjourned till Monday.
Mr. HUME understood that it was the Right
Hon. Baronet's intention to take advantage of the post-
ponement of the measure, in order to re-introduce these
clauses,
Sir ItOBERT PEEL said it appeared to him,
that if his Right Hon. Friend intended to re-
scind the decision to which the House had come the
other night, he should tomorrow give notice of his in-
tention, It appeared to him that the uniform course
was, when a day was fixed fur bringing forward any
particular measure, not to take advantage of the motion
by moving an amendment. If the House establish that
precedent, it would be taken advantage of in future.
lie will so far disinterested that he would give no vote
whatever on the subject.
Strant. era were then ordered to withdraw.
The House .oividod, when there appeared
For the adjournment to Monday 92
Against it

.:rom the passing of t- ; 4 til'i Mijority —44 should be inserted with a view of giving Parttifil/'
On our re-admission to the Gallery we found to comply with the provisions of the Act as to r,
Mr. HUME on his legs, saying that he had been the proper notices. 06°11 given to understand that it was the intention to Mr. HUME said he felt himself placed in a 1i'..,,,t111°‘
move that the decision which the House had of some difficulty regardit, this Bill. A Corn:eitil
CO4le to respecting the compensation to the had been appointed last year to collect information 0104;
lessees should be reseintled, and if some such intention subject ; and, although a blue book, entitled " 1/bre:
had not existed, he should like to know why any post- Evidence," had been laid on the table, there. hadT.o l";
pony eat was 'proposed Who had ever heard of any no time allowed for Members to look into
postponement of a private Bill being proposed, without He had always been of opinion that private enter,
_
we, be
some reason being assigned ? in these railways should be left as free as poss' sell ,
Sir ROURT H. IN ii LIS had stated distinctly in sistently with the public safety, but. he conic: tlit,
moving the postponement that his object was not thought they ought to act cautiously, lest
ictiev.:,
to make any alteration in the Bill. But he would not should do evil, by imposing unnecessary resfrtiegrejf
submit to be catechised on the subject—(Cheers)—and The second clause was sweeping to the highest feted
niete'e
collie 1p when he had stated that he thought it was unworthy of It took the management of the companies
out. of the hands of the companies themselves
I j
any Hon. Member to attempt to induce him to say
great doubts as to the propriety of the reguLl'iretai'vof
more, More, however, he would not say : but if it had
were proposed fcr railroads. He thought tbey_Ad I),i twee necessary to remind one so conversant with the
more time to consider the subject than they lie 00'0
rult s of' the House as the Hon. Molilmr for Kilkenny,
sibly devote to it during the present Session.
_hielt,,i
he would refer him to page I I of the Standing Orders,
unwilling to interfere with private enterprise,
.1 he 1:r
where he would find that he (Sir R. Inglis) could not
thought ought to be left free ; at the same t • IZe ittio,,
move an amendment without giving notice to all the
anxious. to protect the public against any tlnc:thiet4 (,)
partlei coocerns..d, and puttirg in a notice et. lie Pii-
terence on the part of the Railroad Con 1P Oe'y
vote Bill-i,fliee; so that,if he had had any such intention,
...-( .1.1
cause they had the monopoly of carriaist,.
guard oti
the Hon. Member must have been aware of it almost
On that ground alone he was desirous of it 00,
as soon as himself.
public. The question, therelore, was whether ,0 poi,'
Alr. L be wise to proceed the Bill this ear. °rne'rlo.4oo
ANI.B. VOIN said that he threw back the,
c-.littoet itoworttiv ; and he thought it wis unworthy of . .withpone it until next year in order to maite it. as r.O
the Hon. Baronet to attempt to rescind an agreement •a, . , ' .• . „ . vii
possime, witnout unnecessarily interlacing . ble
which had been entered into,
affairs of the comryinics. 301i"'
Mr. GOULKAN, dented that any agreement had Sir ROBERT PEEL thought it was , yetiriers
been enter 4 ',„,,,, to take only one division on each case ; to legislate on the subject in the presro'ioter;ott
*AO an Offer had been refused ; and if the division had (Hear, bear.) •He was himself adverse N „,061,
been the other way, he thought the conduct of Hon. with the employment of caital ; but it was "lire Iv
Members on the other side would have been very to deny that in the monopoly ofrailways tbetbc 101
,1 by Of
digereo, many abuses. That monopoly was.createk. ~,_ tie
_io
Mr. AGLIONBY asked wlvt right the Right Hon, gislature, and it was therefore the duty of ucc,o,oloo
Member had to say that if the division had been the tore to see that the public rights. were proteetinci
...,,...(tla lie
other way, the conduct of Members on that side of the the public convenience was attended ' *shetnoti;
that there tio%
130
House would have been different 'e•—(Loud cheers.) For ' hear,) lie thought it right
himself he could say that in wbltever way the division scale general superintend: ace of. railways. 110 bli'd ttls
rhad bcc..q, he should have considered the agreement. was desirable for the interests both of the ite
if the Right Hon Gcntlenri: must take distinctions, the companios that I. ere shotuld be an A
he ought not to be so indi..er..minate. lie was also subject in the present. Sessiou.•
mostjtifelicitous as to his facts in saying that no agree- Mr. D. VERNON was utiderstood to °Peril°
meat had been catered into. He should have rccol- present measure. 7.-144