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BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
LORDS' AMENDMENTS.

The Lords' Amendments to the following Bills were
considered and agrei-d to :

Edinburgh and Northern Railway, Saint Andrew's and
Newburgh Harbour Branches and Road Crossings
(Newport Railway Extension).
Glasgow, Airdrie, and Monklands Junction Railway
(Cowlairs Branch).
Leeds Waterworks (No. 2),
Leicester Waterworks.

London and North-Western Railway (Kenilworth to
B.rkswell, Branches and Extensions, &c.)
Ccilietry.
ASSISTANT SURGEONS IN THE NAVY.
Mr. WAKLEY inquired whether it was the intention

of the Admiralty to afford greater facilities to the as:,
sistant surgeons on b:)ard of ship for the purpose a
study than they possessed at present.
Mr. WARD salt the assistant-surgeons had as many
facilities for this purpose as the other professional young:
men on hoard ship. The Board of Admiralty were'
of the same opinion, and they did not intend to make any
alteration.
Mr. WAKLEY said he should feel it his duty next
session, when the navy estimates were before the souse,
to bring the subject under its attention, and to propc'se
that greater facilities should be afforded to thew for
pursuinz their studies alone on board ship.
BISHOPRIC OF MANCHESTER BILL.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.

On the motion for going into Committee,
Mr. ESCOT r rose. He thank, d the Noble Lord for
his courtesy in postponing the debate until to-day. to
called upon those who were opposed to the measure not o
be daunted because they had been beaten—he calledur!l
them not to shrink from giving the measure all the oeloll-
- in their power. As yet the members of the Govern.
meat hal spoken but sparingly on the subject. Thelf
h-.d not argued this question at all—whether the bet °
there being a surplus of money for church pro Pert);
justified the creation of another bishopric.-01°5f'
He should like to know from the Noble Lord who rerr
seated a part of Yorkshire (Lord Morpeth) what were.
on the'
the sentiments of the people of that county id.
subject. He had not spoken, but he c°11,4,
tell him that not all the blood of the Hower'
could cram four new Bishops down the throats-
of the people.—(Hear, hear.) Now, there was the;
Honourable Gentleman the Member for Shed
(Mr. Ward), he should like to know if Sheffield 11"-
in favour of the Bill ?—f Mr. Ward said that his con
stituents had not said one word on the matter.] 1" s,
the Hon. Gentleman assumed that silence gave conserve
Mr. Ward—" No, no, I have not said a word on t,
matter."]—(Laughter.) Oh then " silence did not our
consent !"—(Hear.) But no one more strenuously 61,1,P;
ported the appropriation clause than the Hon. Gen tiof
man, and was a greater advocate of the liberties and 0
the education of the people. He was at a loss to ktie
on what ground he supported this Bill, when the fa w it
tottered with the weight which had been placed uP°llO
already.—(Hear.) But he saw another Hon. Gentleao...
—(Laughter)—the Hon. and Learned Member for Da
prvon (Mr. Sheil).—(Hear, hear.) He wished to 9:04
his sentiments.—(Hear.) The Hon. Gentleman, Os
been borne down this session by the encumbrance `she
office as Master of the Mint.—(Hear, hear.) rieato
was a time when his time and his ctrl
the
were devoted to the promotion and protection °` like
liberties of the people.—(Hear, hear.) He shout,'
to know from him if Ireland was in favour of the
(Hear, hear.) But he saw another Hon. Gentlemanber
Member of the Government—the Right Hon. Men 3,1,0
for Edinburgh—(Hear, and laughter, caused by ',g
Right Honourable Gentleman sitting forvlls
and taking off his hat.) He came to the Rig if
Honourable Gentleman, and he would ask hiultba
Edinburgh—if Scotland was in favour of ble
creation of four new bishops. Ho had read the bbd
essays of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and ha vv.
read and heard the speeches he had made in of
liament, but he recollected nothing in either which lot
justify him in supporting this Bill. He called upon it,
to state the grounds on which he supported be
He would address himself to another niell/ be
of the Government, the Attorney-General k pal,
wished to ask him whether it was constitu:l° of
whether it was respectful to express the sentiment 4.
the Sovereign in the preamble of this Bill. But the
wanted an argument in favour of the opposition to
able
Bill, he might refer to the Weehly Chronicle, 0119 A,
and intelligent journal, of which the Hon. Gentiewo
the Member for Sheffield, was the proprietor. ~1143,,,prir
happy to turn from the Members of the 40°-;ght
neat, who supported the Bill, to the Tsa•
Hon. Baronet, the Member for Dorchester kers
J. Graham), who was opposed to it. But whrtis
was the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Taninio
(Sir R. Peel)? Why was he not in his place to state
views and those of his constituents on the Bill? 6%0
he would be better doing this than addressing naiad ho'
to his constituents. He was at a loss to understani•.„,ol
the Noble Lord the Member for Shropshire (P;ch
Clive) could support the Bill. Certainly, under of
circumstances, Earl Powis ought to be Chancellor rt,
the University of Cambridge instead of Prince Alukolae
He was anxious also to hear the Hon. Gentleman fof
Recorder of Loudon (Mr. Law) state his reasons self
supporting the Bill. But he wished to address hitiri
also to those who aspired to be leaders of the C°ll,
'"to
Party, though he might mention in passing that
country did not support them.—(Hear.) whet 480•
the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn (Lord Ll' 'rev
tinck) ?—(Hear.) He called upon him to state hill ."
sons. Did the Bentincks come from the "Low count! 1
for the purpose of supporting four new bishoP:l3l
Was it for the purpose of creating four " Brun:o44oe
mitres," as the successors of land, that his ancestor cbe
over with William?—(Hear, hear.) But where vinstisr.
Hon. Gentleman the Member for Shrewsbury dk-sii•
Disraeli)?—(Hear, hear.) He was busily engage svoa
dressing the farmers of Buckinghamshire—he otyt
riding on John Hampden's saddle through that c°9f oje
but he wanted to know from him how his supPorlenr.)
Bill was consistent with popular principles?--arson of
Would some friend of his tell him how the crees?
four new bisho did
ps was consistent with liberal prine'‘,P
He would tell the House and the public why theirsei
not rise in their places and defend their votes. looked
knew that division lists were not much )000'
at in the country.—(Hear, hear.) They gperta
clergyn e w
o f bishops
the
that theystwere not printed in country verist-laid
1737;hte'hijaellrd:woorrkinesgeChurchwuld h aaveedt° ems.
he the p
fore denounced the measure as unjust and u
Let the House remember the objections
thatn cwere alic a
rais, d against putting the Church intoeom mission,
bear in mind the manner in which those objections Of,"
overcome. The leaders of the popular party Oce
told by the then Government that the m,a5114
was proposed by them for the benefiting of tie
working ( lergy, and upon that understaudi%
and through the aid of those arguments, r,,4
measure was allowed to pass. Had that understandlis
been carried out? Did this measure carry it out ? io.
such thing; and again he denounced it as an act faith
justice towards the people, and an act of breach of to
towards that House.—(Hear, hear.) Suppo-e thee estspot
of some of the aristocracy if the country had b 5 for
in commission for the purpose of raising a fufrolag
relieving the wants of the poor, and when a ro
fund had been raised by that means, it v(Piircidi'
posed to devote them to the support 0' been
tional Lords of the Treasury, what would have ,d
said of such conduct ? Could it hay* been denonve-09
language too strong or too severe ? And yet tiffitty of
just the case here ; and, considering that a maJ",;vioa
the whole House had never expressed any :rid/
upon this Bill, he felt it to be his duty to Persj•efireA
the opposition that had been raised against in.,t•—`,„,.5,10;
hear.) The Noble Lord might prorogue on -f-ri- a
the
He on Thursday he should not pass this
He concluded,•
by moving as an amendment, that
other orders of the day be now read. d the
Sir WILLIAM MOLES WORTH seconded
amendment.

pOing

Mr. AGLIONBY wished to allude to 043 de'
which had been touched upon in the course of t'otecl,
bate. The Bishops of London and St. AssPifh jege to
before the Commissioners appointed by that 0°,00!
inquire into this subject, that it was highly advant7 and
to keep up the distinction between the ePiseePa foci'
ecclesiastical funds, because the Church wanted Popo
sion for more bishops. lie thought that evidence boreo /lot
the present question, and he hoped the House WO of Of.
lose sight of it in deciding this Bill. The Bishop eate4
Asaph's opinion was, that if more bishops were °rap
they would be enabled to induce the laity to subiter of
towards a charitable fund for increasing the ntign"
poor. working clergy .—(Hear, hear.) f end
Bishop HUME said if the spirit and feeling, eod
Bishop of London were to be taken as the Vl' sole
feeling of the bishops generally, he did fear there, 00
no hope for improving the poor working clergY °Loh
country. But if they were to create these new bislib'ef
or to establish colonial bishops, why did tn,eft
not give St. Andrew's, Edinburgh, and Gits„bbl•
bishops ?—(Hear, hear.) lie regretted that the be
Lord had not come down to the House stating ths'r
was prepared entirely to withdraw, or at least to Po'f,
pone this question till the next session of Parliatoeslibe
because he felt it to be his bounden duty to resist to
eo
last breath, and he should, therefore, strongly pot p)
against the continuance of this Bill.—(Hear, toe
He implored the Noble Lord for his own sakes" rEof
pone the Bill till another session. Then, if thefthe
it necessary to press it, let them bring it, forward 10(10
beginning of the session, so that the measure Wile 00
least have the benefit of a full considero.tion. "oaten
anxious that the opinion of the country should bewesoo
upon this subject; moderation would be the better
°roil°
of preserving his own power, than by an arbitrary' 0 ost,
of that power to push a Bill through -Parliament aces of
the opinions and wishes of the people. Of the 113nts
the clergy who really attended to the religious wait wsJ
the people, few were adequately paid ; and Yet,„ paid
now proposed to add to the number of luxuriousv tneit
bishops—to add to those who were now thug i 0 opo'
ro
carriages in the midst of a depressed and star/lilt' pro'
lation. He did on every ground protest agaiii.t;stieg
ceeding with this Bill, because they were now ofi:
the time of the House.—("Hear, hear," from the leveve
tion.) It was wasting the time of the House O Ption
a greater waste. He considered that the intro a tba•
this Bill was a breach of public faith, and he trositevibioh
the Bill would be sent to join so many of the Bills
had been brought in this session.—(Laughter.) 010%
Lord J. RUSSELL could not but think, after hearing
the speech of the Hon. Member who had just aat goo
oboe $
that the present opposition arose from a misapPr ~resen
of the question. The Hon. Member seemed to tiered by
that the ecclesiastical measures generally intro°
tlithe
her Majesty's Government had for their objetie their
crease of the resources of the hierarchy, Wm/ cure °'
depressed those who had more immediately the.,,toier
souls. But he would remind the Honourable P‘lOOOY
that when this Commission was appoilltedA r
othe
of the higher clergy held pluralities gel': The
means of emolument, which did not now "ribiegg'
Commission applied its attention to this state , coos
They applied themselves in the first place to the In foe
of the bishops, and it appeared to them that °loess °f
that the bishops held many amounts for the Plot And
eking out their salaries was a considerable abobletter
they thought that by reducing the salaries of the
,J the
paid bishops, so as to equalise the emolumentptif‘je it
different diocesans, without trenching on other t
_`;
e
appeared to them that by this mode of equalisatleussed ;
efficiency of the Church might be greatly increase
of the bisB,oool.
and in this way tho emoluments
of Durham had been reduced from 22,000/. tn,
Then they thought that the number of deans arci:feond
might be greatly reduced, and by such means -YlO the
pn amount per annum of 134,000 L, but 0vv030.,e, in'
better tuanageineut of property,
creased to 300,000/. Now, to what purpose Was 0
this 301011°4 j„„ this
sum to be applied? It was to be (levy

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would be the cost of a Bishop of Cornwall ? It would bishopric only, but it went to curtail the rights and pri
no doubt be equal to if not more than 4,0001. per arnetn. vileges which bad attached to old bishoprics for hen.
Now, this sum would be sufficient to raise the minimum dreds of years. No doubt that right of sitting in Puha-
incomes of all the clergy in Cornwall to the amount of ment had existed since the time of Henry VIII. ; but
1001. per annum. the question was, whether, under all the circamstances
Sir G. GREY said that as the proposition for a bishop of the case, the provision contained in the Bill was not
of the county of Cornwall was not yet before the House, expedient both for the Church and for the country?
it would not be thought necessary for him to follow the With respect to that question, the Noble Lord the Mem-
Hon ourable Baronet who had just sat down in his argu- ber for Shropshire had laid down the true policy which
meats upon that point. With respect to the necessity of ought to be pursued. He (Lord J. Russell) believed
the appointment of a bishop for Manchester, he thought that if the interests of the Church required it, they
a clear case had been made out for such appointment by ought to increase the number of bishops; but he also
the fact of the great increase of the population of the believed that, if in that question was involved the pos-
see of Chester, and not merely of general population, session of further temporal power by the Church—if
but of members of the Church of England, and the vast they could not add to the spiritual force of the Church,
increase which had taken place in the number of the without also increasing her temporal power, then natu-
places of worship and of the working clergy. rally, and he believed justly, objections would be raised
Dr. NICHOLL said that some very exaggerated up to such a scheme. He said justly, because the Church
statements had been made in the course of the debate of Scotland and the great body of the Dissenters in
with respect to the expenditure on the palace of the England would have a perfect right to say that all laws
Bishop of Ripon, the one advanced by the Election Corn- affecting them were obliged to be considered in the
missioners had been only about 1,200/. instead of 54,0001. House of Lords; therefore they objected to any increase
as stated by Hon. Members. of the power of the Church of England in that branch
Mr. B. ESC OTT complained that the real question of the Legislature. The scheme would be objected
at issue in this case, had not been adverted to by the to because of the temporal advantages which it would
Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home give to one body of Christians over all others not
Department, which was, whether an increase of the po- in communion with her, and he would consider
pulation required a corresponding increase of the number that argument a fair one. The Honourable and
of bishops? Learned Gentleman had said there was no precedent
Mr. HUME said that he had repeated again and again, for the plan. He considered that,aritjlhdoeyethapearnescefeoadtreinant
and would repeat again and again, till he had obtained an was !formed in the case of the bishops in Ireland.
answer to his objection, that this measure was a flagrant
theßy iai(s)yussteemof oLforrdostaftoiornateheorsteainbipsheroiposd e
breach of compact.
Lord J. RUSSELL denied that this was a breach of certain nnmber of years that privilege ceased. But,
compact. A settlement had been made some years since said the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, it is the same
on the subject, but there was nothing in that settlement to with the temporal Peers. No doubt they were in the
prevent the Government at any future time from propos- same position, but he did not think that that affected in
ing a measure similar to the present. any degree the position which he had taken. We see
After a few words from Mr. HORSMAN and Mr. that thatprovi
of the Churchsiontaltes place ininlrlerlealnadn,da. ndrodroetshnets)et
COLLETT, strangers were ordered to withdraw.tend to the injury
reasons he was of opinion that the Committee should
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The House divided, when there appeared.--
introduceCliheu rbtchehlie
tvoead
For the amendment
for
re
tßhiel 1 as
advantageit then stood.o f
Against it
stood than it would be to the
Majority —2t
e Bishop of Man-
The amendment was consequently lost. chester as an additional bishop into the House of Lords.
Mr. V. SMITH then moved the following amend- He agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman that if he
ment:—That in page 4, line 2, of the preamble, the were contented not to contemplate any increase at anv
words "so soon as conveniently might be, three other time in the number of bishops, he thought the
argu-
additional bishoprics," should be omitted. What, he ment might remain, and that there should he no intro-
would ask, would be the case in a future Parliament, if duction of new bishops into the House of Lords ; and
these words were allowed to remain part of the preamble? being of that opinion, he did not think that they ought
Why, that these new bishoprics would be appointed ; now to make an exception which might never again be
and, according to the views of the Right Hon. Baronet altered or liable to variation. He believed that the
the Member for Dorchester, the bishops at present ap- scheme now proposed was the best, and he hoped, there-
pointed were not sufficiently- occupied, fore, that the Committee would agree to the clause.
Sir J. GRAHAM—Not overburdened with labour. Sir T. D. ACLAND thought the creation of a new
Mr. V. SMITH—WeII, that being the case, he thought bishopric would be attended with many serious imprac-
there were other points which should occupy their at- ticabilities. However he would accept it as a sort of
tention before they proceeded to increase the number of instalment of that which they ought long ago to have bad.
the Episcopal body, such as giving the bishops addi- Mr. ROEBUCK objected to the clause.
tional powers over the clergy. He was also of opinion Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL thought that it would be the
that the House should be influenced by the recommen- best thing that could be done to meet the spiritual
dations of the Ecclesiastical Commission. That Com- exigencies of this country to create the new bishopric,
mission was of opinion that the spiritual destitution of but he did not see how the spiritual exigencies
the people was to be removed by an increase in the of the community would be met by giving the proposed
number of chapels, and of the parochial clergy. And bishop a seat in the House of Lords. He thought that
he (Mr. V. Smith) was at a loss to know how this re- giving it to him would be more likely to distract his
commendation would be carried out by an increase of attention from the care of his flock.
three in the number of the Episcopal body. After Mr. AGLIONBY supported the retention of the
quoting the evidence of the Bishop of London, in favour clause.
of this view, he proceeded to say that the Noble Lord The House then divided, and there appeared--
had acted wrong in acceding to the suggestion of the For the clause
Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for Dorchester, in Against it
not postponing the preamble. and also contrary to pre-
Majority ---54
cedent. In his opinion it would give rise to a discussion On our return to the gallery,
upon the preamble on every clause. Lord JOHN RUSSELL was stating that, with respect
After a few words from Lord CLIVE, to the third and fourth clauses, he thought they might
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that his object in in- well be posstponed.—(Hear.) The third related to the
serting these words was, that the course of the Govern- endowment of deans of York and Salisbury, and the
ment might be generally known ; but as they were fourth to the endowment of archdeaconries.
not intended to pledge any future Parliament, he thought Clause 5 was agreed to.
the words might be as well omitted.—(Hear, hear.) The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the
After a few words from Sir R. INGLIS, report was ordered to be brought up this day (Tuesday.)
Mr. AGLIONBY thought that the cause of not post- THE LORDS' AMENDMENTS TO THE POOR-
poning the preamble was neither inexpedient nor in-
LAW AMENDMENT BILL.
convenient. Lord J. RUSSELL then moved the order of the day
Mr. WYNN thought the alteration consented to by for the consideration of the Lords' amendments to the
the Noble Lord, was a judicious one, and he trusted the above Bill. He said there was one clause, with respect
House would proceed with the consideration of the to old persons, which the Lords had omitted. To that
clauses, and any further alterations in the preamble amendment, considering the general feeling which had
might be made afterwards. been manifested in the House with respect to it, he
Sir J. GRAHAM was of opinion that, generally should disagree.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to another
speaking, it was judicious to postpone the preamble ; amendment, relative to the admission of rate-payers to
but with regard to the present Bill, he thought that the the meetings of the boards of guardians, as the main
course was not convenient, and the turn which the principles of the poor-law were not involved, he thought
debate had taken, confirmed him in that opinion, the amendment might be agreed to. On the other,
Mr. HUME regretted that as the Noble Lord had however, he considered the better course would be to
consented to throw out three parts of the Bill, he did disagree with the Lords' amendment.—(Hear.)
not also consent to throw out the remaining portion, Mr. WAKLEY moved the adjournment of the de-
namely, the Bishopric of Manchester. As it was, he bate.
thought that the word " forthwith" should be omitted, Mr. ETWALL was surprised that the Government
and the words " till such time as the two sees should be so readily gave up this clause; he begged to negative the
united," substituted, motion of the Noble Lord.
Mr. M. PHILIPS had intended to offer this opposi- Sir G. GREY said it would be better to leave it to
tion, but was not certain that this was the proper time the discretion of the board of guardians, as to the ex-
to do so. elusion of strangers from their meetings.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that although the rccommenda- Mr. WAKLEY thought it would be better to ex-
tions of the Commissioners were mere matters of recital, punge heth clauses, and then upon an agreement with
and might be objected to by a clause at the end, yet, as the Lords, one of them might be retained and the other
the speediest way of settling the question, he thought expunged.
that Hon. Members should, if they saw fit, object to Mr. BROTHERTON had acted as a guardian, and
each of the recommendations as they were read. he was aware of the objection that the poor entertained
Mr. LAW thought that the discussion should be to exposing their affairs to the rate-payers, and if it was
taken when the whole question came to be discussed on for that. alone he would vote against it.
the after part of the Bill. Captain PECHELL said that if the press and public
Mr. ROEBUCK said that the Noble Lord could no were admitted, there would be no more such scenes
longer depend upon any °se of the recommendations of enacted as had taken place at Andover.
the commission, for by throwing out so much of the Mr. I'. BORTH WICK was utterly inaudible in the
recital he had altered in a very material degree the gallery.
character of the recommendations. After a few words from Mr. ET WALL,
Sir G. GREY said that the Bill would have been The House divided, and there appeared—
complete even without the introduction of these, and, For the amendment
89
Member for Bath was of no force. Majority against the amendment —7o
After some conversation, the portion of the preamble The Lords' amendments to the Irish Poor-law Ad •
under consideration was agreed to. nistration Bill were agreed
to.
The remaining portion of the preamble was then read Polling Places (Ireland) Bill, Lords' amendments w , ere
and agreed to. agreed to.
On clause 1 being proposed, The other orders of the day were then disposed of'
The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved that the fol. and the House adjourned at One o'clock, till Thsee lowin this
g words be inserted—" And also any order of her day (Tuesday).
Majesty in Council relating to the said union (of the sees
of Bangor and St. Asaph) and of the new see of Man-
chester."
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that as it was his inten-
tion to raise the question on the second clause, he should
not then offer any opposition.
After a few words from Mr. HOME and Mr. B.
OSBORNE,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL read the order in
Council of 1839 relating to this subject, and commented
upon it.
The amendment was afterwards agreed to.
Some conversation of rather a technical character
arose between the Legal Gentlemen on both sides of
the House, respecting the remaining portion of the
clause, which was terminated by
Mr. HUME, who said it was perfectla absurd to see
so much uncertainty upon a clause which ought to be
framed in the clearest manner. In order to get rid of
the difficulty, he should object to the clause altogether.
The Hon. Member then moved that the clause be
omitted.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw.
The House divided, when there appeared--
For the clause
Against it
Majority
The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 2 being proposed,
Mr. S. WORTLEY rose to move the amendment of
which ha:had given notice. The question they had now
to consider was, whether it was an injurious precedent
they were about to make in depriving the bishop they
were going to create of all the rights and dignities which
his predecessors in the Church had enjoyed. The only
reason he had heard for not following out the arrange-
ment was that which had fallen from the Noble Lord—
namely, that, on account of striking out the words ob-
jected to in the preamble, he felt authorised to pre-
vent the Bishop of Manchester from taking his seat
in the House of Lords. He appealed to the Noble Lord
whether it was worth while to introduce this infrac-
tion on what he would call the constitution, and thus
to set a precedent which might inconveniently and
'njuriously, at a future period, be acted upon. He
tehaep rt g h
put it to the Noble Lord whether it would not be
i tbetterialo toott
hshf
aasaiany
controlaa there
over wast
htno bl
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gay n
ne wf t
hb ins h onp ,
uwlohuo
was s
district
hdthich Manchester might be considerepdpas the
bissh(od other
bishop should isn?vesHteed
bweiltihevaeldl
privileges wrniveilege
it was for the public good that bishops should be called
to mix in public life with statesmen, so that at any time
they might be called to account for their proceedings in
case it should be needed. He contended that modern
times presented no occasion for feeling dissatisfaction at
ehrimof greaterbeeg
efficient influence
the conduct of bishops, The seat possessed sby the
among his clergy, and
gb irsehaot
epr gpaov:
in his ministry. He
rinose from the fact of
remnnteluarminngutnhteedsitto
admitted that inconvenience
bishops being obliged to remaina
ling of Parliament ; but this ineonvetn°
wouldl
acti"conatnit. He
iotntlewibniechomthpearpisroonpowseidthmtinhresein of the eon-
should, therefore, move that this clsyteirtyu
ause should be
struck out.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL defended the reten-
tion of the clause.

Age.
the augmentation of the cure of souls, as far as
these might be seen necessary, due considerationof
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being always had to the wants and wishes
the different districts. How, then, were the expressions
of Hon. Gentlemen justified? Here it appeared that the
Government, by diminishing the superfluous dignitiese
of the Church, and by abrogating the patronage of . the
Crown and of the bishops, had a sum of 300,000 1, per
annum, a portion of which they wished now to
devote to the extension of the English bishoprics.
He did not wish to argue again the whole merits of the
question; it was sufficient for him to say that the pre-
sent was to be viewed in the light of one of a
hsaedriebseeof n
measures, and looking to the reforms which
already obtained by the abolition of pluralities, the
more effectual provision for the cure of souls, and many
other reforms, he really thought that if a case could
lee made out for the establishment of a new bishopric,
it
Would not be right to prevent the Church from the exercise
of that power which belonged to all dissentients, whether
uivii, ecclesiastical, or political, viz., an extension of the
Means of government of such bodies. He thought that
it was an essential part of the plan which he had hinted
at that there should be an increase of the number of
bishops beyond that of Manchester. He was fully.per-
suaded of the correctness of that opinion, and
he
o did not purpose to take one single farthing
frm the taxation of the country, or to in-
crease the power of the Church by giving those new
bishops seats in the other House of Parliament. In that
opinion he was fortified by the opinion of the Right Rev.
Prelates, who formed part of the Commission. The
Whole bench of bishops were quite satisfied with the
arrangements, that there should be a creation of new
Hbishops who should not have seats in the Upper House.
e trusted, therefore, that the House would not refuse
go into Committee this evening on the Bill, especially
as he had given up the sitting of the House on Saturday
on the express condition that the House should go into
Committee to-day for the purpose of hearing the
objec-
tions of the Hon. Member fur Manchester, and those
of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester,
ilt OPpOSitiOn to the details of the Bill.
Sir W. MOLES WORTH thought that the whole of
the argument of the Noble Lord might be summed up in
eee sentence, viz., " that we have hitherto done some
amount of good, and it is right, therefore, that we should
how do a little evil." He did not think that such
M'was an argument fitted to be used in favour of a
easure for fhe creation of a new bishop. He thought
that it ought to be clearly established to the satisfaction
of the House that there was a necessity for a new bishop
before the Bill was allowed to pass into law. So far from
tevant such a case having been made out, there had been
ne.y Speakers on his side of the House upon the Bill,
itit of that number seventeen had spoken against the
by thel\TOpressing emergency had been brought forward
t, ogle Lord, or by any other speaker, for pushing
sßoiiad
new
wt
"'s measure forward with So much haste. The Noble Lord
bthisehcoopnamiseion had recommended the creation
ght that theroef
,!'' Qt. St. Asaph and j
-8
he (Sir W. Molesworth)
mlifhrtchbee ter upon the union of the
tnoa
Bangor ;
and let the Noble Lor'd bring
recommendation. probaby something in that,
reason for nr in a measure to carry that
; but there certainly could not be any
Oesnpyecaiall% ,""i,e'sirl.'.,' forward a measure of this nature,
1 ne;r7cuen the Noble Lord had said that this was
the sub. - -.°4 of a great and comprehensive measure on
J(et.
Would be He thought that the better course
when to Postpone the Bill till next session,
for the opportunity would be given
in caoneicifearliation and discussion of the whole bear-
-58 of the question; and he for one would promises
best
such a measure was brought forward, to give it his
and most attentive consideration.
Nrr. TRELAWNY said that he would divide upon
every stage of the Bill; but he would not be a party to
"Y factious opposition.
MESSAGES FROM THE LORDS.
attenessemeer from the Lords appeared at the bar, and
ded'a conference with the Commons.
d J. RUSSELL with several other Members
thenatoretired, and after the lapse of ten minutes returned
held intimated to the House, that at the conference just
they had
Leeds'
i
agreed to receive me=sages from the
..
Lora
arttfparaes"'tby One Master in Chancery instead of
dr. lII.TrSII44L explained
3ust al'ioienToleET continued to. think the measure un-
terrained t(;) ctionable in every respect, and he was (le-
t/email
proareesist it in all its stages. (The Hon. Gen-
the hostility proceeded to read several letters expressive of
bishoprics, ‘4l,h?',_the writers to the creation of any new
M. wyea. lou excited much laughter.)
the rules NE thought it was not in accordance with
reed an of the Rouse that any Gentleman should
linuse. y doccurnent without the permission of the
34:11/11r-IIITINIE said that this was done every day by
e yrs
eers
of
theoL the Government as well as by other Mem-
The 110115 P.
SPEAXER did not think the Hon. Member was
out ee , , oruer
„...ale. T bus
4-lecabee f '3*COMBE hoped the Hon. Gentleman the
bis e
„or
peter Winch would not proceed further with
hout;timeo.u.mtent, as
V(rntae Y the arrangem
could not give it his support, being
Go-
ti Qt on Frid l ent he had made with the onto the rs aY ast, not to give any further (ieposi-
kr. B. ~,,,nh'e going into Committee on this Bill.
ma the e`;)°, RNE concurred with the Hon. Gentle-
Place en- igirnher. for Finsbury, that after what took
lbent eeth "'aY ineht, he could not support the amence
tom he h ° non. Gentleman the Member for Winchester,
Ano /3 °Ped the Hon. Member would withdraw it.
frona th • I,,ESCOTT said, that after what had fallen
not resel'ailio,n. Member who had 'just spoken, he would
The aese 4.aendialent to a division.
The fi'7,7nonarit was then by leave withdrawn.
mr "'lse then went into Committee on the Bill.
. M pre
tueros O •eILIPS said a deputation of his consti-
head of
tabu, With him waited upon the Noble Lord at the
t() Pass
i (: Government, urging him not to allow this Bill
of re n its present Corm and he took that opportunity
.they present
of her Majesty's Government that when
Ject, their to legklate again upon this subs
lost ,i ,'eir vievvs and statements should not be
Was R.g,,t4,f There could be no doubt that Manchester
'lot tijr,-at'Y in want of spiritual education ; but he did
eiQfley.nk this Bill was calculated to supply the defl-
tfan Preato the Re must therefore move a verbal amendment
oble of toe Bill, to prevent certain parochial
stn m hOO - the purposes
olafthi, Bill, a c ester being appropriated to
llr pr,,,
had been.-IPLMONDELEY regretted that this measure
DLit he nitherto discussed in so intemperate a tone ;
00 the 131.(1 now, that they had got into Committee
Wool be the merits and details of the measure
with less discussed with more temper and decorum, and
es,e3of reference to party feeling or sectarian differ-
6uPPorted°Pix•ii°h• P
_ or his own part he most strongly
‘,ithi_ this measure At present Manchester was
distiounthireLjurisdiction of the Bishop of Chester, but that
Of his' wished prelate had so much to do in other parts
mttnehe iocese that he could not devote that attention to
But under Which its wants and importance demanded.
aoeit existincs circumstances, considering the
theu4 of the fund's attached to a new diocese, he
hi , t it would be much better both for the bishop
elf
for tb as well as the diocese that the bishop should not
expe_lv Present be put to the expense of sustaining the
Lcurci" e dignity of a seat in the House of Lords. .
4113Wer j. RUSSELL wished to say a few words in
bt to what was Stated by his friend the Hon. Mem-
r for , .
aloch'i‘alanciaester. He did not think that the reasons
to in. "0 gave were such as to make it at all necessary
Chapter troduce a clause in this Bill as to the Dean and
parochial
of Manchester. The question in regard to the
did not duties connected with the Dean and Chapter
rrl4s,et o.t depend upon this Bill; but at the same time he
the 'aY that he thought, after hearing the statements sf
c)f, ftetlernee who came as a deputation, that the revenue
fro ' e bean and Chapter was derived almost entirely
oT. estates in Manchester and its neighbourhood, that
apiritl 613'
ought to be made in some future Bill for better
riur nal
„care, by applying part of these funds for that
Was o In what mariner that was to be done, and what
eas te
but h 0 exact state of the law, he was unable to say;
tr?tentei did think there was sufficient cause for calling the
on of Parliament, at a future time, to the applies-
"en of these funds.
W Mr. HUME did not believe that the necessities or
wants of Manchester required the establishment of a
the
Bishopric.bish Manchester was within the diocese of
'4le po Chester, and all the services the people
required of a bishop could be easily performed by that
ins
Rev. Prelate, if the number of phoeoaer.listrict work
merle !if
WALKERaye a e
snatiedci
Tit (was his intention to give
Lis consent to the passing of the Bill.
Mr. HORSMAN supported the amendment. He
oaid not object to the creation of a Bishop of Manchester,
ft as it bad already been settled that a bishopric
Manchester should not be created till the union of the
Sees of Bangor and St. Asaph took place, he did not
think it right to proceed
with this Bill till that event oc-
ur"--(flear, hear.)
i ,fir ,SEYMER said he had no doubt that the work-
:,,lt clergy were of great service.
.to the Church, but it
evas necessary that some supervision should be placed
welt so large a body of them as were engaged in addmisi.-
liner- .
te log spiritual relief in the large and important
I4etf of Manchester.—. (Hear, hear.)
e( ter a few words from Mr. AGLIONBY, ,
he I' PENNANT said he represented a portion of this
tier theeese of Manchester, and he could state that the
14 tRY of the district which he represented were strongly
Ivour ou this measu(Hear, hear.)
kile'teer u• few words Irom Mr. Hume, Mr. Horsman,
li,,"'',,,..elnaondeley, Mr. Collett, and Mr. M. Philips,
tlro- vv• MOLESWORTH thought that there were
-
tree.loestioes to be considered, first, whether an
diin
hett! of bishops were really necessary; and rcon i_,
iNt 'ler it would or would not be more advisable if,
She te%.(l„ of creating those bishops, an increase. were to
ee" in the amount of the incomes of the working
k''V, 0f the country. He did not think that a case of
ttislie-ItY had been made for the creation of a new
ollt4s-,1),:t It had been stated by the Noble Lord that ti'e
%ied Y had been established eleven years since. He
t,4 eerrit,..las:t such was. the case;. it. had been proved by
tttt to ;4,0 ission, which then inquired into the subject,
~,,,do, ale cases there was not enough for the bishops
,C 4 it and in other cases there was too much,.
it:attt,ll ,WaS resolved to unite the sees of St.
hat'4 f -nd Bangor, to divide the see of Chester,
.0
ills 14, create a new Bishop of Manchester.
11C,taik* Ould ask the Noble Lord why in the present
44110 p, brow had not, instead of proposing to make a new
the tlf (.4,l.°l'ght in a measure to add a portion of the
h: s,, e4ter, which was considered as too large, to
lie/. Etve-7 St- Asaph ? The Government would thus
42 seeilid inflicting on the people of England an in-
iet'ule 1.,,,,°s was proposed by the present Bill. The
th:titioe tit:l had gone further, and said that it was his
toottooe°htity° Pro Pose to create a Bishop of Bodmin for
0e e°l Cornwall. But he having sat for the
lie f,soree I.°rnwall in one Parliament might claim to
tee P qeitell3wlodge of the feelings of that county, and
riee-arte.,a ,Jovineed if there were any Hon. Member
illlpplP ill hi ua face and
that be would not dare to
41teeets ortflace . thank the Government for the
4 Bishop of Cornwall. Now, what

Mr. LAW objected to the clause, as being unconsti-
tutional. He hoped the Noble Lord who had brought
forward this Bill, and by it was about to confer a benefit
on the Church and the country, would not be niggardly
in his gift, but make it worthy of their acceptance.
Lord CLIVE asked every Member who felt an inte-
rest in the spiritual welfare of the community, to support
the Government on this Bill, as by doing so they would
have four bishops instead of one.
Mr. NEWDEGATE objected to the clause.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the Bill had passed
the House of Lords, where there were bishops to object
if the Church was likely to suffer by the exclusion of
this bishop from the House, and as they had agreed to
it he did not see that any reasonable objection could be
made to it, for no one could doubt that they were, at
least, competent to give an opinion on the matter. He
could not but agree with the lion. and Learned Gentle-
man who had introduced the amendment, that, according
to the constitution and the law, a bishop, upon his
being created such, had a right to his writ of summons
to the House of Lords. No man disputed that. But it
did not follow that if Parliament should give the right
to the Crown to appoint to a new bishopric, the Parlia-
ment could not attach to that appointment any condi-
tion which it might see fit. If the Crown were called
upon, es debitejustitice, to call all bishops to Parliament,
there would at once bo an end to the question of prero-
gative ; but he contended that it was not invaded by the
clause under their cqnsideraliou. But then, said the
Hon. and Learned Member for the University of Cam-
bridge, raising another objection, the provision con-
Wiled in the clause was one not affecting the new

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY'
_EVENING, JULY 20, 1847.

ELECTION MOVEMENTS.
HARwwn.—Mr. Attwood's nominee, Sir Dudley
Hill, has canvassed Harwich, and met with most in-
' different success. The good people of this immacu-
late borough, want more than promising to pay; they
require ready money and no credit.
ST. ALBAN'S.—The constituency of St. Alban's
have been on the alert for candidates, and have been
ransacking London in all directions for aspirants to
Parliamentary fame. No less than four candidates
are already in the field, and yet they want Mr. Salo-
mons, Mr. Wilks, or any one else to add to the num-
ber. As yet, the fish will not bite, but the voters
hope OR.

SOUTH LANCASHIRE.—Mr. Entwisle has an-
nounced himself again a candidate. The injudicious
conduct of the fag-end of the League, in repudiating
Lord Brackley, has brought this about. Never was the
good advice of Mr. Cobden more wanted, than by
these meddling gentry at the present time.
RIPON.—Sir James Graham comes in for Ripon.
Any candidate for this place, who stands under the
family influence, may be announced as corning in, not
coming forward.
HULL.—Mr. Baines, Q.C., and Mr. James Clay,
will, it is believed, be returned for Hull.
YARMOUTH.—Mr. Goldsmid and Mr. R. Bagshaw
have the call here.
NORTH CHESHIRE.—Mr. Astley, led on by a few
restless spirits, will, it is believed, come forward for
North Cheshire ; but the great majority of the elec-
tors, feeling that Mr. Stanley and Mr. Egerton, having
been mutually agreed to be supported, upon which
ground Mr. Davenport retired, will not break an
honourable compact, and Mr. Astley cannot succeed.
CAMBRIDGE.—Mr. Humfrey, Q.C., has consented
to stand for Cambridge on the Conservative interest.
There is, however, little fear for the success of the
Liberal candidates.

STAFFORD.--A new candidate, Mr. Healey, of the
Temple, has made his appearance, and has gained
many friends. He is a man of first-rate talent and
an excellent speaker, and is reported likely to
succeed.

FRO ME.—Mr. Bethel], of the Chancery bar, has
returned from an inspection of this borough. He is
said not to be greatly pleased with his visit.
INVERNESS BURGUS.—The following is the address
which has been published by Mr. Matheson, of
Ardross, to the electors of these burghs :
" Gentlemen,—Your present representative in Par-
liament having announced his intention of not again
soliciting your suffrages, I beg to offer myself as a candi-
date for the honour of representing your burghs.
" Having but recently returned among you, after a
long absence in the East, I would have hesitated to ob-
trude myself thus early on your notice, were it not for
the very flattering invitations and promises of support
which have been spontaneously tendered to me by a large
and influential body of your number, embracing in-
dividuals of all shades of opinion.
" Whilst I approve of the principles of free trade, and
of ..the liberal line of policy pursued by her Majesty's
present Ministers, still, if „I be so fortunate as to be re-
turned by you as your representative, it will be my study
to pursue an independent course in Parliament, and to
support such measures as may seem to tend to the gene
ral good, from whatever party they may emanate. My
best services shall at all times be devoted to your local
interests; and it will be to me a source of no ordinary
gratification to be placed in the proud position I aspire
to, by a body of my own fellow-countrymen, and for a
district with which I am so closely connected by my per-
sonal interests as well as by the ties of early friendship
and local attachments.
" Unavoidable engagements detain me in London for
a short time; but I hope in a few days to be enabled to
return to the Highlands, when I shall have the honour
of waiting personally on you, and of affording you such
explanations of my political sentiments and views as
may be required.—l have the honour to be, Gentlemen,
your most obedient servant,

" ALEX. MATHESON.
" London, June 22, 1847."
Mr. Matheson arrived at Inverness on Wednesday,
the Bth inst., from London, and commenced his can-
vass with every prospect of success—there being no
opponent in the field. Mr. Matheson was the repre-
sentative in China for many years of the house of
Jardine, Matheson, and Co.

future. While he thus disclaimed anything breathing a
spirit of hostility to his Noble Friend and the Learned
Sergeant, he thought there were circumstances which,
as characteristic of the cause and i❑ gratitude to the
borough, ought • not to be concealed.—(Hear, hear.)
They had secured this great result by exertions alto-
gether of a personal kind.—(Hear, hear.) Individually,
he (Mr. Harvey) had not entered one house to canvass
one vote.—(Great applause.) He had engaged no
canvasser and paid no cab.—(Great applause.) The
result was a splendid monument of what free men could
do who rightly understood their rights, and haft a prin-
ciple stamped on their minds. He was told that before
to-morrow's sun should set there would be proclaimed
the names of their opponents. Whether they had to
contend with one sturdy knight—(Laughter)—or two,
was equally a matter of no importance if they were true
and faithful.—(Cheers.) For himself; he should be pre-
pared to give the only earnest—no feeble one—of his
sincerity and devotion to the object in which he had
embarked, by throwing off those fetters which bound
him, which would enable him to cast himself into their
arms, and repose there.—(Tremendous cheers.) Let
them permit him to say, without dwelling on any of the
various topics which he had discussed in addressing
their large meetings, that there was one point with
regard to this last subject which ought to be one of the
principal motives which would induce them to emanci-
pate him from the thraldom in which he had been
thrown by the contrivances of parties. For the first
time in the history of the country was a clause intro-
duced into an Act of Parliament by which, when made
a commissioner of police, he was rendered incapable
of being elected. The fact was, that he was not ap-
pointed by the Crown, ;but chosen, outj of other candi-
dates, by the City. The Hon. Gentleman having pro-
ceeded to expose the dangers of a Tory policy, when the
Tory candidates appeared, concluded his address, which
was warmly cheered throughout, by stating that he was
sure that what the herald proclaimed to-day of their
power, was but a presage of their own omnipotence.
L'zd D. STUART, in a brief address, graceful with-
drew his pretensions, and congratulated his oppo-
nent.--Cheers.)
There were loud cries for Mr. Sergeant Shee, but Mr.
Ivimey explained that he was kept away unavoidably;
and

Sir B. HALL made several attempts to address the
meeting, which were very ungraciously received.

CITY OF LONDON ELECTION-MEETING IN
THE WARD OF FARRINGDON WITHOUT.

Last evening an extremely numerous meeting of the
inhabitants of the ward of Farringdon Without took
place in the Farringdon Hall, King's Arms-yard, Hol-
born-hill, to hear the opinions of three of the Liberal
candidates—Mr. Pattison, M.P., Baron Lionel de Roths-
schild, and Sir George Larpent, each of whom, particu-
larly the first, was loudly cheered on entering the hall.
4r. WALKER, who in the course of his address said
he was a Dissenter, was voted to the chair. He trusted
that the electors would not be influenced by individual
character, but would support those candidates whose
principles tended to promote the welfare of the commu-
nity at large. Although he differed in some points from
Lord John Russell, still he saw so much to be approved
of in the Noble Lord's long public career that he would
still sapport him.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to
Baron de Rothschild, he found no reasonable objection
to him—no one could object to him in the relations of
private life, and he did not see why any difference
should arise in public matters.—(Hear, hear.) Who-
ever read the history of Christianity would see that our
hitherto treatment of the Jews was disgraceful, and he
hoped soon to see those laws broken down which pre-
vented the sons of Abraham from becoming their poli-
tical friends and advisers. The worthy chairman con-
cluded by eulogising the public conduct of Mr. Pattison,
M.P., and Sir George Larpent.
Mr. PATTISON, 'M.P., rose, and was received with im•
mense cheers. He said that as his speeches for the last
eight or ten days, addressed to the electors of ithe City,
and containing expressions of his public principles, had
been published in the different newspapers, he could say
but very little more than he had already said. He would
remind the meeting of his votes in Parliament. He had
voted for the ballot—(Cheers)—for triennial Parlia-
ments—(Cheers)—for household suffrage—(Cheers)—
for abolition of the punishment of death—(Cheers)—he
had voted for the repeal of the worst part of the Reform
Bill, the rate-paying clause—(Cheers)—and he believed
that his noble colleague, Lord J. Russell, would, if he
had time, in the present session, have passed a measure
to nullify that clause.—(Cheers.) For his other votes
he referred the electors to the published lists of divisions
in the House of Commons. He would persevere in up-
holding his old principles, and he hoped that they would
get rid in time of the drags that still lay heavily on the
trade of the country. He felt great satisfaction in hav-
ing for his colleague the Prime Minister of the country,
who was not perfect—no man was—but who was he
(Mr. Pattison) believed, as honest a man as ever
breathed.—(Loud and long continued cheering.) Who,
asked Mr. Pattison energetically, will you get to re-
place him ?—(" No one.") Sir Robert Peel is a great man,
and has done great good to the country, but his party is
nothing—(" It will be less")—and he could not now
form an Administration.—(Hear, hear.) Will my
friends have Lord George Bentinck?—(" No, no.") He
is the head of a third party, and I do not think that my
friends will support them.—(" No, no.") The other
candidates, Baron de Rothschild and Sir George Larpent
were known to the electors through their speeches. He
hoped they were Radicals, as he was. He was a Ra-
dical—that is, a personsopposed to everything radically
bad, and friendly to everything radically good.—
(Cheers.) The Hon. Member then eulogized Baron de
Rothschild, who, he said, was a friend to religious
liberty, and he hoped that by electing him they would
get rid of Jewish disabilities, one of the last, together
with church-rates, objectionable laws on the statute-
book.---(Cheers.) He firmly believed that if they elected
his excellent friend they would get rid of that monstrous
stain on the Legislature of the country.—(Hear, hear.)
Was not Baron de Rothschild a most charitable man?--
(Hear, hear.) Whenever he (Mr. Pattison) knew of a
case of distress, Baron de Rothschild was the veryjfirst
person he applied to for assistance. During the recent
and still prevailing distress in Ireland, Baron de Roths-
child not only subscribed most munificently, but placed
two steam-boats, at his own expense, at the service of
those conveying relief to Ireland.—(Cheers.) He hoped
the electors would back Baron de Rothschild, whose
family he would back for charity against the families of
a dozen noblemen.—(Cheers.)
The Baron DE RomtscHum, on rising, was received
with loud hurrahs. He said, that as their veryjable chair-
man could see no objection to his being a candidate, it
was equally clear, from the kind demonstration now dis-
played by the meeting, that they did not see any objec-
tion to him.—(Cheers.) At the suggestion of many of
his Liberal friends he had come forward, as they thought
that a trial for civil and religious liberty should be under-
taken through and by him—that they should have an
opp?rtunity,snot:only of expressing their opinions on the
subject, but of proving them by public acts.—(Hear,
hear.) On those grounds he claimed their support.
The Hon. Candidate then expressed himself favourable
to free trade, showed its good effects, and said if Liberal
Members were returned the system would be followed
up to the greatest and most beneficial extent. As reli-
gious questions were now more agitated than any other,
he begged to say that he was decidedly against church
endowment, and would oppose for such purpose any
grant of money from the public purse.—(Cheers.) He
would endeavour to support the progress of education
without any religious interference, and would pay the
greatest attention to.the improvement of the franchise.
A large meeting would take place the next day, when
every question would be fully discussed, and when he
would be prepared to answer every querist, as he was
prepared now, and at which meeting he hoped to see
public opinion as great, and greater, in his favour than
e ver.—(Cheers.)
Sir G. Lanrnsrr then addressed the meeting. He
came forward as a merchant of the city of London,
professing liberal principles, to solicit the honour of being
chosen one of its representatives. He was a friend of
free tradh in the widest extent of the term. With re-
spect to social improvements, connected with the poor-
laws and the suffrage, they should receive his patient
attention. He would support reduction of taxation,
revision of the Excise laws, and would vote for the
removal of the window-tax. He considered a tax on
property right, and fair, and just, but an income-tax
was neither right, fair, nor just.—(Cheers.) He consi-
dered church-rates highly obnoxious. Persons should
not be forced against their conscience to support the
Church establishment, bull it should not be allowed to
go to ruin. On the question of religion, he was opposed
to all endowment whatever taken from the general funds
of the country. All who contributed to the taxation of
the country had a right to share in the benefits of
public education. No system of public education should
receive his support which in the slightest degree inter-
fered with the conscience of any man.
Those were the opinions by which he —cH ca
meant( tto
hrs'et:i hear.)ild
)o
fall, and which he would support, if elected.—(Cheers.)
Baron DE ROTHSCHILD here withdrew, saying that he
had another meeting to attend.
Mr. PATTISON, also excuse my going.
I am going to the
ns to vote against the
M.P.
—You
°COT int
Bishop of Manchester.—(Loud cheers.)
The meeting shortly afterwardse stehpraereacteadn,didhaavteisneg
expressed the fullest confidence in the

MR. GREEN'S BALLOON ASCENT.—Mr. Green,
whose multiplicity of atshet relates cents, hasee to ta
secuareerdosaptrieosnc,rimptaidvoe
safety in everything
another ascent last evening from Cremorne-gardens in
the presence of some thousands of spectators, man of whom were persons of rank and fashion. lie was ac-
companied by his brother, as first-lieutenant of the
aerial ship, and his passengers in the car and on the
hoop were—Captain do Bathe, of the Fusilier Guards ;
Captain Cust, of the Grenadier Guards ; Mr. Windt or
Heneage, Mr. Lindsey Antrobus, Mr. H. M'Calmont,
Mr. T. Little, Mr. Rein, Mr. Spencer, and Mr. Williams.
Lord Clanwilliam was to have been of the party, but
every seat was filled before his Lordship arrived, and he
was consequently left behind. The huge machine was
wafted gracefully in the direction of Hounslow ; the
wind blowing from the east. The gardens were
crowded with company, who after the ascent adjourned
to view the dramatic representations, and partake of the
good things in the numerous refreshment-rooms.
NEW ITALIAN OPERA HOUSE, COVENT-eGARDouEsNe.-0
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