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London, England, 1840-04-15 00:00:00

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A that he should havo no objection to lay the plan
a the table of the House, provided the persons who
drawn it out had no objection to'it. 'those per-
; ;ens cobsidering that pat of the pancri were private,
t =liked their being made public. With respect to the
4ter rinestions of the Hon. Member, all he had to say
EIG, that he had no scheme to propose to the House on
:.1.2 subject.
POOR LAW.
The Pcor-law Amendment all was read a second
;.roe, and ordered to be committed on the 18th May.
The Poop-law Continuance Bill was brought in
Mr. Fox Maule.

TURKEY.
71-' Mr. HUME wished, had the Nob!e Llrd at the
of the Foreign Department been present, to have
him a question as to the steps which bad been
- .rk ♦o carry into operation our commercial treaty
h Turkey.
Lord J. RUSSELL uttered, inaq(libly, something

e.pica.;etieal for the absence of his Noble Friend.
'Mr. HUME--(rather sharply)—But I do say, Sir,
I is a matter of greet importance—l gave notice of the
caestion--it is on the paper—and the Noble Lord
s,:..ght to be here.—(Hear, hear.) The public offices
ieere burdened with memorials—great credit had been
.1 ken by the Government for this treaty—yet. neither
petitions nor memorials could answers or infoim Ition
7 . obtained—( Hear, hear)—and it did not appear
steps had been taluen to carry out the treaty.
CHINA.
Mr. G PA,LM ER—Sir, the Government not hay-
1,- tag advised any message to this House, but having
-r;uatecred a declaration as to the object of the erne-
' :aent against China—..viz., to obtain satisfaction for
'esuirs on her Majesty's liepresentatives at Canton,
arse indemnity—(" (aaestion")--my object is merely
explain that there are Iwo classes &. claims for in-
) del:natty—those arising from the losses connected with
r!ie trade with the Hong merchants, an l those founded
upon the rtttention of the opium by the Chinese. Now
wieh to :Wt. the Noble Lord whether, it the opium is
nci delivered *, war is to l commeno.id immediately
ainst the ebitnese ?
Lord JOAN U.USS&LL—I must decline answer-
ieg a gate-ion of that untarte.—( Hear, bear.)
Mr. G. PALMER—The,ternment having made
ct a ieelaration—(Cries of " Oriorer")—l wish to ask the
noble Lord whether he does not consider the declare-
-1 ~eta of the Government in this House, as to the object
sj, the armament, does not in some degree pledge the
House to agree thereto, unless some motion be speci-
made to the contrary ?—(Crics of " Order.")
si Lord JOHN RUSSELL—I must decline answer-
! ir.g such
.:Raestions.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
only wish to say I have not asked for any answer to
mcssage from the Crown.
Mr. G. PALMER—Then I give notice that upon
I the 30th, I shall move that the refusal of the Chinese
to pay for the opium delivered up to them shall not be
1 cnnsidered a justification for commencing war against
kaim.—(Hear, hear.)
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
Lord J. RUSSELL rose to move, according to no-
+i-2e, that after the let of June, Orders of the Day take
p"feedence of notices of motion on Thursdays. He
ha I made the same motion early in the Session, but it
yes objected to merely in point of time. As there were
many important subjects likely to be discussed after the
retess, it was essential that they should be discussed at
an early hour of the evening, when there was likely to
be a full attendance of Members. It so happened that
! lately they had three motions which had occupied ten
days in debate, and that, of course, had infringed very
; cinch upon the days set apart for Orders.
The motion was then agreed to.
Mr. FOX M AU LE proposed that the House should
ge into Committee,pro forma, in order to enable him to
bring in a Bill which effected a change in the regula-
tieas of a trade.
) The House then went into Committee, Mr. BERNAL
in the Chair.
'dr, F. MAULS said, that in bringing forward the

ion of which he had given notice, it was necessary to
4 *state, that owing to the Act expiring in the next Sea-
of Parliament, it -should be again renewed. He

t.c.,:.usrlAt he was justified, from ail the inquiries he had

made, in asking permission of the House to introduce
i a Bill for finally putting an end to sweeping chimneys
by means of children.—( Hear, hear.) Great efforts had
l.+-sea made of late years to efftct that object, and he
hoped the House would lend its aid in superseding the
I employment of children for such purposes. One of tte
pineipal features of his measure was that sweeping
i enimneys by means of young children should be entirely
done away with, and that no persons under the age of
minty-ono years should be either permitted or compel-
lad to ascend chimneys for the purpose of sweeping
1,• them, under severe ponelties. The Hon. Gentleman
concluded by moving that the Chairman of the Commit-
!' tee should he instructed to move for leave to bring in a
it Bill for the Regulation of Chimney-sweepers and
Chimneys.
'Er. HUME, though he gave crec to her Majesty's
i'.. Ministers for their humanity, had very little hopes of
r their smcceedtng in thicir laudable object.
ISir R. INGLIS thanked her Majesty's Ministers for
t 7.ayinl asked ioi lelhe to introduce the measure, which
, Le trusted irriasitllieet with the approbation of the

Q.
Laird RUBY returned his heartfelt thanks to her
Alajestf's iihtimcios for tehe work of humanity they had
hewn, for ho believed the law, as it at present stood,
bad produced a system of moral degradation that had
,?..aver before boon known in any civilized country.
The House then resumed, and Mr. BERNAL ob-
4ined lour* to bring in the Bill.
THE CASE OF NATHANIEL CAVE.

Mr. EASTH'OPE then rose to call the attention o
the Howes to cite petition of Nathaniel Cave, which he
bad resented a few days ago, complaining of illegal
'.alpnsontneet. At the time he presented the petition
be hati refrained from making any observations upon it,
and it now became his duty to detail the contents of the
complaint to the House. He was sure that there was
nothing which that House would so cautiously abstain
from as passing by anything that could induce a sus-
picion en the mind of the public that there was one law
for the rich and another for the poor. He had not to
complain of the administration of the law, but if the
statements in the petition were true, he thought the
tiause would agree with him that the law required al-
teration. Nathaniel Cave, as described, in the pc-
; ation, was a labourer at a surgeon's in King's Langley.
''.a. was represented by John Wilton, the servant of
Mr. i.lountain, that Cave had stated to two sons of a
beet .shop keeper that Mr. Butt's trees had been cut on
the Friday night. An interlineation was afterwards
1 made in the deposition of John Wilson,stating that the
i boys had said Cave had cut the trees. Instead of those
1 boys being sent for and examined, the man Cave was
1 sent to the gaol of Berkhamstead, and confined for
leight days on the prison fare—bread and water. When
I tea man was brought up at the Petty Sessions it was
1 foe id to be one of those strange ridiculous stories that
1 era circulated, and the men was instantly discharged,
j ,Although he had been previously told by the Magistrate
I that there was evidence enough to transport him. Now
1 'ibis was not a case that ought to be passed over with-
-1 frt,:t some •inquiry.—(Hear.) He (Mr. Easthope) did
LIDt lir, some to vouch for all the facts stated in the
1 t:etirion, but he could vouch for the petition
1 corning from a most respectable person, who
i stated that Give was a worthy and honest man. In-
! deed, such was the excitement and annoyance of his
, richer neighbours, caused by the conduet pursued
''inwards him, that they induced Cave to b ing his action
eaainst Mr. Mountain. The result of the action was
that the Learned Judge who expounded the law in
:at case, having stated there was no evidence of
,:-. aliee which would warrant him to direct a verdict
,%' be given for the plaintiff, the Jury returned a
assdiet for the defenalant ; and this poor man, in ad:li-
t ta.a to being cor4lued for eight days on the food of corn-
! tnots-a)ons, had to pay upwards of 1001. for costs, be-
\ cau. %ha magistrate could not, it appeared, be chirped
1 le.th malice ; therefore, be was not to be
aodliablefo r any
en a, pensation on account of the suffering
who
thusinjustice
h had
lsa i Ised committed against this poor
man,
i i.asierdly, and without redrass, to endurey
a eight da sil'
aarwisonment, with all the disgrace and distress cons'l. anent upon it, and be told, perhaps, after all, that c-
'e
i''aer oaerated eetailty towards rich and poor. Ho. (Mr'
Y P.,...tfhlire) left it to the candour and good ft! elingolthe.
t notate; whaeSiter, 4 this had been the case of a gentle-
! ti;,,„, e, ,a 0,1,0 evi7/6141 have been in such a summary way
~
.0"t to foal, assd, betzvse there were no petty sessions,
i iept itstwiscsaed ler-eight days. Such injustice would
. rievev have bean inflicted OM any one above the rank of
i labonrer. lie was ceuy.inccd that neither that
lionea no. the country wood desire that such transac-
t tines should take place, creafirg an impression, with
kso great show of truth, that the law was administered
in one way towarda the rich, and in another way to-
.vardsthe poar. Ho would not enter into the law as it
! had Inca laid down by Lord" Abinger ; it would be pre-
-1 ,enaptuous in him to do so ; he doubted not that the
Noble ind Learned Lord had laid the law down with
t all that care which ought to characterize, and, in this
country generally, did characterize judicial decisions ;
but if the Learned Judge had laid down the law cor-
rectly, it certainly was a
great hardship that a man
shoald, on the mere bears
of children,
I eat week, andeskated for a then—because
have been in-
lY
en—because failing in
t betties' proof of malice, in the eye of the law—
, a.aleted in DAL costs. Moreover, the Hou. Member
had applied to this gentleman for
h r some explanation.--
S6OlO antidote to the stain whichdf been ciroasptootantihoins
1 reputation—..some slight disclaimer of
which had thus injured that character which,
900( man, was all in all ; and to this demand the rteoplya
refrain
for an ac-
into that
to examine
1, was,
N" That the attorneys were
i tion." Surely the House could nport:
into all the facts of the case, and t
i monad the appointment of a$ l Cf mo . e ect Committee.
Lord he
i Lord GRIMSTON said, he could not enter '
cite question, how far it was proper that this House
I shaanld inquire into cases wbich a jury had already dr.
eided. But he begged them to remember that this
)
was an ex-parte statement against a person in whose
fat our a jury had determined.
1,
Mr. FOX MA ULE hoped the hon. Member would
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