The Sun.
London, England, 1823-02-15 00:00:00

FOR Tu E SUN.

Chaque Nation doit ac gouverner scion k beroin de set
Admires 41a Conservation du bier{ Pubape."

" Never has the character of our. Country risen higher than
it stands at present since the wise, manly, and independent
line of policy silently pursued by our Government for the last
few months has been distinctly avowed by *Ministers, and pro.
claimed from the Throne."

I cannot resist the opportunity, Mr. Editor, of
offering my sincere congratulations upon the heart-
cheering example of that entire union of senti-
ment so recently displayed in Parliament. That
we have frequently sharp bickerings amongst
ourselves—owing to the freedom of the British
Constitution—is matter of notoriety : call it par-
ty-spirit, or what you please,—it is immaterial.—
But let the discussion of a great political ques-
tion, involving the rights and privileges of one of
the co-estates of the great European family come
before the Senate, and men of all parties, for-
getting their differences, boldly step forward,
and thunder in defence of the outraged rights'of
mankind. Labor ipse' voluplas. Yes, I repeat
it, Mr. Editor, the debates in Parliament last
Tuesday evening constituted one of the most im-
portant and gratifying scenes that have occurred
for a long time. From what I perceive at a dis-
tance from the Metropolis, I am quite sure of this
—the minds of the people are considerably grati-
fied ; and confidence in Government is daily in-
creasing, because it is obvious that the measures of
Ministers are bottomed on good old British prin-
ciples, within the comprehension of all classes of
the corritnunity.' It is quite natural that a nation,
whose every Institution is idea tified with liberty
and independence, should view the threatened
aggression of France with horror and dismay. II
is not possible that England could have given
vent to its feeling in any other way than it has
410ne. At`the same time the policy of Ministers
is not less noble, because it chimes'in so com-
pletely with the popular voice. The spirited
aiid independent tone of the Counsellors of the
King justly entitles them to the national thanks,
the highest possible reward they can be honOUred
with in a free country.
• now- truly like a British Statesman are the
to,tmorable wordsof Mr. PEEL, " The principles
that actuated this Country," he observed, went
to acknowledge the Sovereignty of every We-.

Is it alleged that Spain .has brought evil upon I
France ?, No; all that constitutes the gravamen,
is—the reform brought about in civil and 'eccle
sinstieal affairs in Spain is offensive to Louts the
18th and his old emigrants ; and they are deter-
mined to make a crusade to crush the nascent
itnproretnents in that fine country. The whole
,affair amounts to this: it is a mere Popish War.
It assutnes this character from alt the indices we
can gather. The King. of Fitaier, when 'he,
.proies about the Spanish Monarch's dispensing'
'the befitting Institutions to his people,• means,
in fact, nothing else but to invest FERDINAND
thelth with absolute sways--a sway to be'bot,
towed in the must odious and resulting supersti-
tion. But it will not do. All the mad acts of
France will not be able to.replunge mankind in
the gross Popery and imbecility of the dark
ages. Had there been any thing approximatipg
to wisdom in the restored governments, instead
of coalescing to put down vier arwis, every at-
tempt at political improvement, on the part.of
any Nation, they would have shewn au eager-
ness to repair the errors for which some of their
predecessors had smarted so severely. But" old,
dogs,"they say, " learn no tricks;" by the same
rule, it would seem, old emigrants are incapable
of improvement even in the school of bitter ad-
versity.
Were it not trespassing too much I could wish'
to be permitted to add a few words more. And
I the-rather claim the indolgence,- Mr. Editor,'
because, what I am about to' offer, involes- an
honest and well-meant testimony to the worth
and cheratter of your excellent and patriotic
journal. if there be anair of compliment in this,
I can safely aver,. it is legitimately acquired on
your part. While almost the entire bulk of,the
London Press, (some of, them with considerable
pretensions) have trumpeted forth nothing but
fables and incongruities, in regard to the sup-
posed sentiments of the British Cabinet, on the
momentous question of our foreign relations, your
spirited and intelligent Paper has, without a
boast of any sort, steadily thrown out light and
information of the most valuable kind. It has
been demonstrated, by what took place in Par-
liament last week, that 'l'iii SUN (no matter
Whence arising) had with, great.' accuracy' pin.
pounded for It length of time, the seutimenteef
the British Statesmen in office, in regard to
French cabal. You are aware, of course, that
you already enjoy considerable fame at Pari,s.
The Journal des Daals insists upon it you are
the organ of the Foreign Secretary :
Often as you have been quoted previously, your
argumentative Tensoning, on French polities,
borne out as-,it haa been by the avowals o$ his
Majesty's Ministers, will justly gain for m
suN„ both at home and abroad, that considera-
tion which is pre;entittently due to cool Investi-
gation, intelligence, and foresight. Had' time
French Government been wise enough to make
a proper use of your strictures, they would. in all
probability, have owed you an eternal
Banks of the Tyne, Feb: 1112.1 cms:

" r will'not detain you now by a single argiitnent in favour,
of a reform of the representation of the people in Parliament.—
There will, lam sure, be many on the Market-hill, on Fri:
day; far abler than myself, to advo;ate and enforce this great
measure. You know thy unalterable sentirnents upon it. r
seek no_ to destroy with a rash innovating hand, but to restore
the constitution to its original purity, by making the-House of
Commons thereat representatives of the people in Parliament,
acting as an efficient control over the power of the Crown, and
not, as it has emphatically been callCd, ' a convenient infant;
ment in the hands of the Government, to register the edicts
of the Crown.'

" I trust the teal frl4nds of Reform in the country 'of Cam-
bridge will be united in their object. We have much to con.
tendagainit—the overgrown influence of the Crown operating
through endless channels, has spread corruption over every part
of the country, paralyzing the efforts of honesty and intlepend,
ent men ; but we must not be deterred `by difficulties ; the
county of Cambridge has done itself infinite honour by its Un-
shaken perseverance ; we must steadily pursue the great object
we are seeking, in one straight undeviating Course ; ant." as our
cause is that of sound policy, truth, and justice, it must and
WM ultimately prevail. 1 am,' Sir, with sincere esteem, your
faithful and obedient servant, " BkIDFOR1):"

Sentiments so noble, so patriotic. • And so manly, refieetett
honour on this excellent nobleman ; and "lie could 'not com-
mence better than by,reading tins excellent. letter. He,hop_ed he
might not be deemed presumptuous in thus early offering
himself to the attention of the Meeting. Thr)' were met there.
to promote the 'great and glorious cause of Reform in the re.
presentation of the people 4 and who 'that heard him—who
that posseased the heart of a, man, ail the feelings or eh
Englishman could not fail to raise his voice against that
system of corruption and tuisgevernment Which had plunged
almost every class of the community into misery anti ruin'?
-By that system, And the evils which it had generated., the
merchant, the manufacturer, the agtieulturi4t,-11114 tin.' labourer,
were all made to partake of the same bitter Cup of dietress
and no one could boattofthis'state of things but the tai-rnanu-
femme. And what was the cause of this overv;lielniing
misery, front v:hich no one could escape, SIM those who were
base enough to fatten on the vitals, of . their country? It was
corruption--coruption was at the bottom of the ladder, misery,
was at the top, and every hitertnedtate steP'brought us only the
nearer to ruin. It had been the custom foe eenietitne paiit, 'for
Minieten: to 'publish annually a pamphlet, containing is more ee
review of their proceedings during the, last 'seesioik„e
meet. This was for the express purpese of enlightening the
country gentlemen f of making !nanitist the blessangs. taxa,
tion and-of displaying the magic of the Sinking Fund, He
had read that pamphlet with coneiderahle: anxiety, to find; if
he
.?ouhi., by what new device the MinieteraPreposed\to deliver
the people. They tried by this notable Pamphlet to perinide.
the farmers „ who had not a shilling in their pockets, that
taxation wed n'o part or the distress under which they leboured,
and that they were not to mind the fall of produce nor of land,
because the revenue was in a flourishing condition.. In fart,
they treated-the people es the ass in the table had treated the
lion, and resolvedhot to take-leave ofthien'Withinifa parting k ick.
(Applause.)—lly this false and most ienptidentw‘gutakettions,
it ,w1,..t estimated that the taxes of the preeent leffi'arriontitett
to '4a,suu,oow. while the interest and the expellee. or manaLiag
the national debt, including the Sinking-fbnk ' attiatuatO. for
44,000,0001. Let the meeting look to the seine of things in TM;
when. the amount of the taxes was Iti3OtA7,ooW. and the interest
of the natiotial debt, with the charge of manngsnlet4 amounted
only to 11,000,0M11. In faitnes, he ought- t() add, 'that the
l'oers-raee had been increased by tuur 11110 a half, so
taut the total tnii;ht.be 00,00,(V/'
wall nearly (OW gIIVI the amonnt 0,, tent o. welik the in..
ttloit of the ,deblarnotinted to five time,' the sum, ne would
ask them how it. „,.4. teopibie'to expect that any reshietien of
the taxes Could afford an adete relief, While the enteeteit of
such a tlebt remained to be defrayed ? It was'
upon this },"round
that he,felt hitniell hound to toter' in the propriety and jus-

tine of the petition adopted in thecounty of Noefblk. liy that
petition Reform was proposed to be made the stepping, tone to
the attainment of relief; but it alsiosuggested that the public pre-
pert y should be Made availablefor the discharge of public bur.
dens. This should be done before the fundhcddees Were calledupon ,
• to.coetribute to the saute object. It was, however, the duty of.
all cheeses to come forward, and t.l thelaentlholders were re,
ceiving, and had received (thanks to Mr. Peel's Bill), a target-
share of interest than they were fairly end honestly entitled to,
it was reaeonable that they should .alte lend their assistance
and when it should become neceseary. tie then proceeded to
aniinadvert upon the abueee of the Administration, and the 1
attacks which had been made upon the liberty of the subject.
He traced, from the passing of the Septennial Bill in 171 h, to
the present time, the cede which he said sprung from the rinse.
represehtetion of the people. He could not wonder et the sus.
pension of .114ects Corpus Act--et the hunting men to
the scaffold by spies and informers—at the persecution to
death of the' pour Queen—and at the Manchester Massacre,
when they were the leork of each a Ministry at the head.
of, such Parliament. He then proceded to urge- the
neceseito:oran 'reduction of the }ecclesiastical Eetablisla
uwmtts in England and Ireland; and the nbolition of the
.systenaof tithes, which he designated at odious. It was just
and necessary that in this hour of distress the Clerkly should
oetoihtite a 'large share of their stiperfinoue incomes for the re-
'.,ereof their eooraeymeetea...lshe rain, which had been increas.
viblence, now iietured down in torrents. At the sugges-
tion ersoMeentlenien neer him, the Sheritr wet about to ad-
jboitild-
the Town-hall, but after waiting about ten Minutes, the
rain abated, and the speakers returned to the balcony.]
• Mr. BEM. ES then proposed. the following Resolutions:a.,
ar. 1. That the Freeholders and Inhabitants of the County
of Cambridge and Isle of Fly, anxious to fulfil the purposes
for which they have been convened, In a manner worthy
of the character of a free, liberal, and enlightened people,
possessing and acknowledging one common interest, declare
to' their fellow-countrymn, that although, in common with
other Agricultural Counties, they are labouring under peen
liar and extraordinary hardshipe, they desire no advantages in-
consi:statit uith the Leneral welfare, and in particular they dia.'
claim 'the vain end 'delusive projects which are still in agitatiare
for relieving the lan d eil interest at the ex penee of the Indust/lone
part of the etionnunity ; and they are ready to co-operate with
their fellow-countrYttien at large in rescuing the nation from
the solid tyranny of the borough faction, and restoring to the
people the exercise of their .undoubted right of being fully re-
presented in Parliament.
",2. That excessive taxation in the great and paramount
grievance of this kingdom, and the immediate cause of the
present unparalleled distress ; and that the taxes which pre.
lionsly to the late change of the currency consumed so vast a
proporlion attic annual income of the "nation, have been so
enormously increased in their real amount, by the operation of
that incomplete and ill-digested measure, that they are now
rapidly devouring the capital and fee-simple of the estates of
every one who does not in some degree live upon the public re-
venue ; and that the Parliament, by restoring cloth payments,
withont melting suitable provisions, has established a legalized
system of confisciiinn of property throughout the kingdom.
" 3. That the landed interest, besides the general. Perlis-
Mentary imposoais idinost ettentravely burdened with the main-
tenance of the poorewith numerous persons crowded beyond all
precedent, and other' grievous charges ; that the enortpous re-
venues of time clergy are almost wholly derived from the partial
tax, amounting to many millions, which; under the dencanina.
don of tithes coneunies so large a portion of the fruits of the
soil, and the agricultural industry of the country ; that the
ecclesiastical establishment of England and Ireland is supported
at an eapence which there is reason 'to believe exceeds that of
all the other Christian. churches collectively throtighont the
Worldeand absorbs far, too great a aortion of the public, wealth.
" 4. That this Meeting,. rejecting all temporary expedients
its inapplicable and itiadequate to the nature and cetera of the
present distress, and tending le aggravate the existing evils:, is
of opinion, that it is absolutely necessary to have recourse to the
following, amongst other decisive reniede s —I t, an effectual
Reform in the Commons House of Purlieu:lent; ad., a repeal of
Part of the assessed taxes, particularly the house and witidow
taxes, and the whole duties on nude! hops, salt, leather, wee),
end candles ; 3d., the abolition dull sinecure places and offices,
anti unmerited pensions, and the retrenchment of every urine-
emery branch of the public expenditure, including a very con-
siderable reduction of the standing army ; 4th., a reduction of
the salaries, pensions, and ernolinnents of all necersary public
functionaries, in proportion to the increase in the value of
money e sth, the abolition of tithes in Ecclesiastical hands, and
appropriation .of their produce to the liquidation of the debt,
and an equitible commut4tien thereufain all other cases, with a
due regard to the provision of adequate and ample reinuneeation
for the Clergy, and to the wetted interests of the righasat petrons
in ativowsone ; felt, a more' equitable distributimi einongst the
efficient Clergy of the revenues of those immense landed estates
which are the undoubted property of the public, but now en-
joyed by Ecclesiastical individaals and corporatione ; 7th; e
sale'bf the national estatee, Caned CrOWO-iatttill.. and an appro-
priation of their preilui.a to the liquidation of the debt ; Bth, a
teditetidn of the interest of the national debt In proportion to
;the increased value of the currency, anti tin assessment d arn&
ed property towards time maintenance of the poora
" 5. That the following Petition be adopted by this MeetiMi
and that the satnehe Pmeented to the Ilonee of Commons by
the alembere for the Cohnty.
" R That
OS this. Meeting is fully resolved to persevere in
endeavouring to accomplish the Objects et' the foregoing reso-
lotions and petition, the' High 'Sheriff' be requested either to
'adjourn the present meeting of. the free holder% and inhehitants
of the "county and isle, to Fraley, the lath of April .next, or
.siatanciri another eeting.for limit day, whichever he may think
tit, fur time purpose of receivilig the report of the county item=
;here Upon the proceedings which die House of Couniaans may
adopt relative to the petition ; and for the 'purpose 'of taking
such farther steps m's shall then be deeMed adviseble for-carry-
ing into execution the 'Reeolutions of the present ateetheg;
• M. F. K. Eaut.r., in seconding the resolutione, begged to
`asiure the Meeting that he was led to do NO by senee of public
elate, The distress of the agricultural Mutest was time chief
and' immediate burden which ;Reseed open them. As far
his own experience wente—as diet pert of the county iri
which he lived was c.oneerriedeelie meant the Fens—this di!.
tress hnd 'considerable, increased. • The taxation bad beer} re-
duced, but the'hocier poces measure of the change in the-ear-
rency had prevented any, advantage being' reeped--by. the fat-
!bees, because they were now obliged to well 'two bueheis of
'cern where farmetly one would heve stmfßceei. The speaker
profeitled to enlarge upon the stare of the prtrent rearreeenta.,
;lion, witch, the rain 'becoming Insole violent, he said he
should not' take up any .furthet the time of the Meeting, but
would press theeputting the resolutions.
The Rev. F. Al ADE it ay said .heeeppewred there for the put-
pose of molting an Ameralineneto 'the Resolu ns tie thought
-that they, were et once unjust, and little calealat,:ti ;cm obtedn the
obj6et for which they were tnet. ' lie' then proposi ti ttnitillote"-
lng Amendment
That a *titian be' presiented to the' King,, requesting
Mint to diiloll _Hillis present and:paetiaalerly the late
ilotiour4t3l; litOtttS CATO itle, and to' restore E.,rl
;mate sir Robert ilson to the' posts and 'eneoluments
they have been deprived.
" 2. That x petition he presented to the Home of Coennume
for a thorough "reform in Parliaintria such .s will 11l akeit4 full
and fair representation of the people ; fir a hose reduction of
taxes, particularly .rot eiductioraof the asecesed taltt'e
aria thee they 'would 'cerise to vote suppUei tor a large portion 61'
the'etetitling army, and ixnuld 'reduce the .salerlitaoritil who
see ‘peialerehe public:one:a* and abolieh sinecure and
unmerited piece* and pensions ; and Tor a repeal of iall,she op
ptessire or.ht. against the liberties of the. people; aurae,* tilt
Alien Act, and those againit the, freedom of press and pub.:
tic Meetings, the Foreign Pilistroent Ate;
" 3. Thal a petition be presented_ toedue House of Lords that
j they wOold'hlot!out'of the ournal* of their tionourablelleiniti

UNIVgaSITY INTELLIGENCV.

Olironn, Fiu. 14.—0 n SuturoY, Feb. U, the folivn ing
Degrees were conferred :--

MAST DRS or ARV,j.
Rep. Charles Wheeler, Chaplain of Christ Church,
Francis Maude, Exhibitioner of Brasenose

Bradford I)cnnc fluwkins, Schola of Petnbroke

BACILELO/11 OF +MTS.
Edwin BOsanquct, Esq. Corimi Christi College, Orin Coin.
pounder.
'Phoraas.Price, Exeter College.
:James Harwood Harrison, Merton College'.
Wyckharn; :Fellow of New College.
ltev. Thorne, Warren ,Mercer, j Trinity
Henry .11asliwooft,
Christophernobert Pemberton, }Students of Christ Church.
William tirerley,
William Thackeray, Exhibitioner of Brazenose to" Ilege.
Joseph 7Twigger, Pembroke. College..

In'aConvocation, holden on Alonday, Feb, 10, ;the ilegreo of
Doctor in Divinity, by dilatotna, was conferred tn. the Bev.
lteginald Heber, M.A. some time Fellow of All Soul's College 4
who has been recently appointed to the See of Colcutm •
On.Tbuisday:last the. Rev. 'rhos; rawad .Bridges,
Fellow and Senior Bursar of Corpus Christi College, was una.
nitnously elected'President of that Society.. •
OtirWeilnestitiy gennight Mr.. Bradford Dennis Ilawifins,
14. A. was elected .Fallow' ri Petribio)te College, on the Tos.,
dale founda*On. . .

VCCLIRTARTICAL VIVEIPTIUKT.XTS.
The Rev. W. t',u rtis, Vicar of Leominster, to bc chriplaia to
the Bishop 'of Oxford.
The Rev. 11. Bishop, Vicar of Arilleigh, to the Vicarage of'
Great Clacton, Essex t ',attest, Frederick Nassau, Ess. of St.
Oryth Priory.,
The Rev. J. 131gek, .40 the .VicataiNt..of Gray's Thurrork,'
Essex, vacent by the death of the-Rev. M. Wilson.
We understand that the Rev. ThotrosiCAliert. 1}.1)..
low of St. John)* College. and Norrioslan 'Professor of Divinity.
in the University of CAM bridge, has bean presented. by ihis..M a.-
;testy to the Wattlerisitip of the Colleriate Church,' Altaicheter,
vacant'by 'the 'death of the.:Rev.
The Rev, d. W. Peters hus, beenittiditutedflo.thellertnty-of
Queningtou, Ole ucesterthirF„. eM•ntation
Beech,£M, of Williatnstrip Park,

LAW INT ELLIQ ENCE.

COURT OF'Xitiilla BLNCII, its, 14,

ADAIIES v. VOlit/.
When the Jury *as s*ocit to try thud cause, his I,oitnetttrf
said he hid just lead the utiitima of thii ease ; and he 'thetight
it ime .of se delicate a Man reit/ to 'be Iliolly unfit*:. it vestigi,..
ton in a public Cuost of Justice.
Mr. SC/AIa:TT, for the' defendant, said,:, that If,client
1.
never would have- come into. Ceurt, if he. did . not (fel *tit his
medical Atilt and his trOtanity ;were ittlizAigneil. by' thii action ;
and a he' had tnedieut.tibstn a the highest iiiii'nellee in attract-
ince, hecourted the strictest invtlititnitiOti of hisftreittoetiverf
14iiilitti exit.
. Al** .littat Sta/ri.x.r, fur the. pliintiff, said. thit he
igrecti• frith hitt Aetadshilt ' that 'IW/cease' witsittter for priiAte
than public investiottion ; but his client:had**. me lict4 Irct.t'
in ittendinee of. ;treat Iniorivt-niettee to theinsels*:
Thet3fitZr %TOOT I +o*-Titeti if a trial to ,- ,*wv to pro.
mote 'public' jutittle. t shell ipp;4lst ti iliy f.~llllll' of 114 i
action alone, and 1 shullquke cut fir hsAlttfil3Ourt as
private ii-peektMel I,t I ital ctilhik ' Oite • Atif 41.: private
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f'ARLJ AMENT,

HOUSE OF, Lattps, Fin. 14.

Prayers were read by the Bishop of EXETER
at ten o'clock, when the Rouse (consisting of the Lord Chan-
4441eir, Lord Redesdale, the Earl of Tankerville, and Lord Cal.
atorpe) proceeded with the hearing of Appeals.
ELECTION of a TEMPORAL PEER of IRELAND. •
Honors (from the Crown Office, .Ireland) attended at
Ake Bar' with the return of a Writ, issued pursuant to Act of
Parliunent, for the,election of a Temporal Peer of Ireland,
itt Elbe room of Stephen, Earl of Mount Cashel, dees.sed.—The
'Writ tad Return having been authenticated by questions from.
the Loan Cu AN' cra.t.on tq Hedges, were read' at the
table ; and, it appeared that Edward Viscount Lorton had been
duly elected a Temporal, Peer of Ireland, in thoroom of the late
Earl of Mount Cashel.
MOTIERNEY (from the Tax Office) presented an Accoun
of the Salaries, Allowances, and other Etnoluments, accruing
to the Receivers General of Taxes.—The Return, which Was
mg& pursuant to the provisions of the 3d of Geo. -IV., was laid
ott the table. •

lord StOWELL presentea a petition from the Clergy of
Beiltihire against the Martiege Act.—Laid on the table.--. Ad.
jaunted to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Various returns were laid upon the table from the East 'lndia
Reuse, the Commissioners for the 'reduction of the, National
Debi, the Bank, the Tak-office, and various other public offices.
DUGDA LE presented a petition from the Merchants
and Traders of Nuneaton,
in the County of 'Warwick, pray-
ing for the repeal
of the Insolvent Act:--Ordered to be printed.
Sir H. PARNELL, in presenting a Report from the Corn-
tnissioners of Inquiry, relative (we believe) to the Customs
and Excise of Ireland, asked Mr. WAT,6tCr, whether there
was any intention of introducing. any Bills to carry into .effect
the recommendations of the Report, which he said displayed
great talent, and reflected high credit on the parties who had
drawn it up.
Mr. WALLACE replied, that Rifle for carrying the Report
into effect were already in a great state of forwardness, and
would in a short time be laid upon the table of the House.
Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition from the Hop-planters
• of .Newliurst, in the County of Sussex, praying for relief, by
the' Repeal of the Hop Duty.
NEW MARRIAGE ACT. •
Admiral SOTHERON presented a petition from the Arch- i
deacon of Nottingham, complaining of the New Marriage
• • Ace—Laid on the table, and ordered to be printed.
Dr. PHILIAMORE presented a petition from the Dein
and Chapter of the Cathedral Church of Norwich, stating that
the power of granting licenses had been taken from them by
the New Marriage Act, and praying for some compensation.
Mr. BRIGHT thought that the rights of the peculiar jurie-
• dictione had been very properly taken away from them.
The petition waa ordered to be printed ; as was a similar pe-
titicm from the Rev. W. Johnstone Vounge, the Official of the
Diocess of Norwich.

• . INSOLVENT ACT. -
Mr. BE:NETT_ presented a Petition from the Manufacturers
and Tradem of Warminster, in the county of Wilts, praying
for the repeal of the Insolvent Debtors' Jtet. The Hon. Mem-
ber said, that though he could not agree • with the petitioners
M thinking that this bill ought to be repealed, he WAS still of
opinion that it might lie very considerably amended.
Mr. ABV.RCROM BY was sorry to perceive that there way
-such a strong popular feeling against the principle of this
lie trusted, however, that the House would adhere to it, as it was
livery fair and salutary principle. From the conversations he hid
Held With those parties who were moA hostile to the bill, he was
convinced that a very great ignorance prevailed of one of its
most important provisions. People 'generally supposed, that
wlirri an insolvent debtOr was once discharged from' custody,
he wits also discharged from all liability whatsover to his debts.
Now this was by co means the case, for the act made all the
property width he subsequently Requited liable for them.—
tif! suggested to the opposers of the present bill, that it might
be advisable for them to move for the appointment of a Coni-
Mittet, and 'to 'refer to their consideration all the petition 4 on
this :subject,
Mr. A./UOIIT condemned the present insolvent act in very
strong terms, letting loose a most .profligate race of men to
,prey upon the cprntrinoity. Be thought that 'the Conirnittee
just proposea•hy Out lion. and Learned Gentleman would be
uiel,,pt. far any gtma pt,trposa._
Mr. MA It WV A T wan convinefd that, as far as the 'Metro-
polis Was.oollcolllo4, the general desire was to leave the prin-
Liple of iha but to render its provisions more
adequate.—( Heel' •
Mr. CALVERT corroborated by his testimony the state-
ment of•the. jot:speaker.. •
Mr. j. C. 'llOl3/10USE declared that one of the principal
• objections to the present act Was, that it had formed a Court
whicii swallowed. upbyits, fees all the property of the insol.
vents. He was of opinion that they could not form a proper-
bill without altering- entirely the constitution of the Insolvent
Court.

After a few words from Mr. if MIT DA*l3, the petition was
laid on the table and ordered to be printed.
MARRIAGE ACT. ,
Mr. fifINNET presented a petition from the Mayor and
Aldermen of Shrewsbury against the new Marriage Act. The
petitiontra were llattons of a peculiar jurisdiction, and they
complained, that 'by the Act certain fees had beat taken from
-their official, without any conipesation having been'rnade to
them for the loss sustained.
A. MI: rtnt:a, whose name we could not let.rn, stated that
thent hardship had been inflicted on the patron; and officials of
e peculiar jurisdictions, and expressed a hope that those hard.
thips would hafreinnved by the 130/ then before the House.
'The petition wa's then 'ordered to be printed.
1:01r/Y4' WS AND ThE ADM fit .I.LT V.
Mr. MAIIItYAI." rose for the purpo9o tonewinfr his
dropped motioir for information' respecting the Dotterel and
Llamado° criii7.ers. • lie gave notice that he t.:ltioldhrei,; it for-
ward on Thursday; the ..17th inst. ..
Air. MICH presented a (petition front-the 51vrchants,
Thinkers eite. Nottingham, praying for the irapeal of the in»
,wlvant Act.

Mr. DE?;fd A N that he had been I.lv:tired to support the
pram o this petit.On butt»! declared that., anxious as ha was
to have the Act.wiet(ded,,lto cotildliot go the length at' repeal,.
in;; the Itill al.togetl,er.
After a ttoo words fkorri Mr. Bauctp', the p:tition was
brought p bliti.:p.p4).:l the table..
Mr. S. prNenteci it petition front flrictiibta
itgainst the ft.,ialyeht Dcbtors' Act.
,
11A BAIA Cif; ACT,

Mr. "tVETIr NUM.,
.after .terming thelll.'3ll.llga Acoan
Arabia of 'rapine and eanituden, and a :pagarieus Thai of tr.
rorg, laid upon the table a: ,petition from .tlio 'Archdeacon of
Oxford againq it.. • The U. Gent. recommended that the fill
AtilV before tha House to amend the Act of last Session ohould
1,,t be committed until after the recess:'

•
,if (a. tiitlX/311.1 agreed ..that ••the hartLthipt catoplaitted
of io inany of, the !4)?titions: ought to be remedied.. There,
bowevori,:wlut:ortei. hardahip Oeceliar severity that .ought in
the iltatlitAsultselT;;Ad-h4. reAdoved—tl4, •.nieant untle.r which tile
ri7,llle ,t)t • ,hoth aexea labouteLL VW- hip :own part, ite wits
among the inotbei„ert.4 Rivet:, the Lett ,Heart on be bad been to
diAr...r.tteLl per Nixed by the lErovisione of; the hill, that
with ;di 'td att.,4llx-,to be gr.tort-i.cal, he 4):01 titskcen able to ac.
the 0ity.t.”..,:„.(114,kr., anti 114 ti` hter.)..- tribe exit;tinx lawiesr, ier, tut tuber :dui 1;e i*Ntre.4l very ihhei, that he sh.t til‘i not
;., ;01cluttgO.I.,illilj'ett,iro, which bad been ntisetdled that of
-1--( 141410? t:er-/
r IsI;;;:1; 14 hy, ,popittans wjzilted to ttede,Trete the
been ertinPlained,of, tlif);ol.,Nho;tlionglit
E.,; Ely ; , tart` atL the deprivation of a ,;Sti.ll
• attdr.tma hintseir ilowcver s,rittot,!y
e;the cit'le, Of the
f,(31:1,1y r . one of reetit, 11,1141,414,.
; W e , 4: uguity, Itttity 1114 u. were
; ;., ; lie btfto Wera told
. • , . .
togrlytt cont.tderattott
riglhs itielut,t;..
•.• • : . ~.. • parainemiy.
. .„ , • . :1 conlyettl,:th ler
tit 'ft.);\ • ntigly to the Inischitveui
Lh e incorigrueti:i
; ;,, odtt th:L ' ;: ;-;.;;;i0 method ogtEtht to
th,4l
dot,),;. , :1 - • ~ 411.411. h, tl
the . ;; ; ; ' 1E44 that con.lll not Le
844.'. t;; ;
1) : : !Olt 'Cite iiroceetiing of the
Iluu• . t • the Lords-were adopted : the ad.
•
• imi)ortant prigs,ople had thus btr n gaioed,
and he, f,h outt, L.-,d not tylohtti ball it, beeatop 411.) nit%titirt:
sought be atteit' ,come temporary inconveniaos.co, 11114:

object aids 'BM now upon the table4vas to 'retain all that ha'
not been altered by the Lords, and to amend-all the clauses the
Lords had inserted. Although peculiar jurisdictions were
highly objectionable, ho admitted-that theicabolition ought to
be attended by compensation,'
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL adverted to the endeavour
he, had made in the ii et Sessiim. to ,point out thelneonceni-
enees that would arise from the Bill. If it were only for the
sake of the Hon. Member for
_Southwark, he hoped the Bill
would be amended.

Sir J. MACKINTOSH.. was prepared to say that the Bill
of last Session contained a new and a just principle—the indis-
solubility of marriage, so far it was an important benefit, and
outweighed any slight inconveniences resulting from thehasty
passing of the Bill. He recommended, as there was also now
a bill in the other House of Parliament, that to avoid clashini,
and for greater deliberation, the Hon. Gentleman (Dr.
more) should postpone his measure.
1)r. PHILLIMORE said, that he intended to have it read
a. second time to-night, and to fix a distant day for the Com,
mime.

Mr. BUTTERWORTH, having mentioned a particular
illustration, expressed his apprehension, .as so many new ob-
stacles had been throWn in the way of marriage, that parties
' who wished-to-be united-had taken each other's words.
The petition was then laid upon the table.
PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
Mr. MABERLY moved that an account should be laid
upon the table of the Public Income of the united kingdoms
of Great Britain and Ireland, for the year ending the sth of
January, 1023, deducting allowances,. discounts, drawbacks,
and other current expences hnd for the number of issues and
payments within the same period, exclusive of the sums paid
on account of the interest of the public debt, and on account of
the unfunded debt. He thought that the paper moved for
ought to be before the House before the Right lion. Gentle-
man opposite (Mr. Robinson) came forward with his exposi-
tion of the state of the.country.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was exerting
himself to procure the.account in question at the earliest pos-
sible moment; but the Hon. Gentleman was mistaken if he
supposed its immediate production to be matter of facility. The
paper moved for could not be procured so early as the paper al.
ready before the House. The Committee of Public Accounts
last year bad recothinended the production of the two descrip-
tions of return—that already upon the table, and that moved
for by the Hon. Gentleman; but the Committee, in terms,
observed that the second return (that now called for) must
take, from the nature of it, more time to make out. After re-
peating.that the account in point shoUld Ilforthcoining assoon
as possible, the Right Hon. Gentleman went on to say, that on
Friday next he should be prepared to state to the House the
view which his Majesty's Government took 'f the financial si-
tuation of the country, and to open the measures which Minis-
ters meant to recommend for the adoption of Parliament. His
statement would be brought forward in such a form as would
not require him to call upon the House for any specific vote on
the night upon which he introduced it.
Mr. HUME said, that if the Right Hon. Gentleman had
been a member of the Committee of Public Accounts, he
would have known that its decisions had been far from unani-
mous. The account now before the House amounted in fact
to nothing. 'rim House might as well propose to judge of the
Duke of Bedford's income by looking at his banker's book, as
of the revenue of the country from the return upon the table.
He wished the Right Hon. Gentleman to postpone his exposi-
tion until after the account moved for was procured ; for it
would be quite premature, and indeed mere waste of public
tine, for the House to go into a discussion upon the state of
thE country, without having before it a full account both of
revenue and expenditure.
Sir HENRY PARNELL agreed in the opinion of his Lion.
Friend that the Accounts in their present shape were not at
all satisfactory. They were intended fora mere temporary '
purpose.
Mr. MABERLY said that he had been a member of the
Committee of Public Accounts, but hail by no means con-
anted in its general proceedings. He believed that it' that
Committee were renewed at the present moment, it would find
difficulty in giving any sufficient reason why the account which,
lie now moved for should be delayed 14 days after the account
already before the Rouse. He concurred with his lion. Friend
(Mr. Hume), in hoping that the Right Hon. the Chancellor of
the Exchequer would postpone his statement until the House
was in a condition to form ajudgment upon it. lie hoped that
the paper which he called for would be printed befof'q Friday
next. Before he sat down, he begged to know if he had'iightly
understood the Chancellor of. the Exchequer, that on bringing.
forward his propositions, he should move no resolution upon
them until a subsequent day ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER repeated,
that he should not propose any vote on Friday which would
pledge the House to any part of the statement he brought
forward.—The return was then ordered to be produced.

MARRIAGE ACT.
Dr. LUSIJIN4JTON presented a retition from the Arch-
deacon and Clergy of Bath, praying for an amendment in this
Act.

• APPQINTMENTS.
Mr. HUME, seeing in the (teethe the appointment of Lord
Glanwilliarn to a high diplomatic station, in the room of Mr.
Rose,. begged to know whether the removal of the latter Gen.
denten would put the country to the expence of a pension ?
He also wished to ask, whether the pert-ion of Sir B. Bloom•
field would merge in his new allowance as ambassador ?
Mr. CANNING replied in so low a tone of voice, that we
found it difficult to collect the precise terms in which he spoke.
—To the first of Mr. liume's questions he replied decidedly in
the negativt:; to the last, we understood the Right lion. Com.
tleman to Say, that it was not Usual for a pension to merge in
such new appointment.
Tile illarnage Act Amendment Rill wail read a second time.,
—Committed for Friday fortnight.
AGItICULT4URAL DISTiIESS.
The ,Report of the Committee of Supply being brought up,
Sir TIIGMAS LETHBRIDGE begged to say a few words.
Not finding, so far, any intimation from Government of its in.
tendon to bring forward measures for the relief of the Akricul.
tural lntereet; lie wished to put one or two questions to. tile
Ministera of the Crown. Ile was much gratified to find the last
paragraph the Royal Speech charecterieing the landed inte-
rest us the most important interest of the country ; but, lie. re.
greued that that sentiment was not 'followed up by a pledge
that Government would meet the great question of agricultural
depression in that manly way which its consequence demanded.
—He dreaded lest the landowners of 'England were to be It:ft
during another Sessiou in their present depresse'd—.-he had al.
most settdegraded, situation. It Was impossible for Govern.
meet neit to be aware ef their distrese. The five hundred peti.
tious.could not possibly be forgotten, which had been laid last
So.Yesiieit upon the table of the 'Mouse. With :ill his respect, and
no Mari entertained more, for the high telt:not and character of
• Ministers,. he could not but take tioir forhc:artllet. to propose
soMe.toeasure upon the subject ati tut omkeion al their duty.
It Should be recollected thattbe landed interest had become de.
pressed by no fault of their, own, but by the hopolitie conduct
and regulation of the Legislature. With produce bratight tiann
foreign countries, and sold in, the English market at a price
with which the home-grower could not compete— with the effect
produced by the return, of the country to metallic currency, it
was iteare.ely neceseary.to look farther into the main coast, in
which the dietress originated. ,After commenting upon the un..
reascinebletiees of those arrengerucrita which threw the tithes,
the pool'e-rate, anti the cnst of criminal prosecutions alinoet en-
tirely open the landed property, the Him. Bart. concluded,
by asitiNK whetber Govetitioatit had measures in etnuemplation
Ail the rOlki orate A,Liti,•:ulturla Interest ?' ' •
Mr: CANNING thought it imposslble'that any on"" eotild
Ilini feel:. with the nentimeut3 winch had fallen from the Hon.,.
Belot:et, arrcl certainly no man in the_hotise could be less die.
boeed to do so than himself. On the one hand, no oir could
lame tile Hon. Baronet. for expressing the illgaPPolnimetlt
which tic felt to find nothing tending to relief in the speech
frem the throne ; but, on the other hand, the lion. Beronet
did 111inietarii great wrong if he supposed that, either now; or,
oil Atty. fernier oceasiou, they would have been slow in desire
or iit det,rminetion to give ri4ief, if relief had ban practic.able
(lie tn,!;in t relief direct) by any' of the 111 'C'ItS LliT-4 to (Vii/cli he,
(Ibo )ion. Baronet) had 'aelvert..eil. The liortourable NI-04k
rest itsaurail that he did Minietere injostice if lie doubted,
door !;, moat/tieing—anti deeply syinputhieing--in a dietrteW
altielt meet touch every TIM liCUrly who felt tor the interests of
hit country. Ile wislied as heartily as 010 tionourable Pitrotat
hinisolf that it had been possible to zippaiid to the laat para.
graph of the royal speech a deeleretion that Uoveenment
in-
tendeJ to propose
.itome mexottae Moe thole whirli the nxi..
Baronet ited suggested ; but it would liatie"been linear unfelt in
Minietera to have purchased either a temporary popularity, a,
the temperer). support of the . landed interalt, by h i limp out
expecoithine which they did not ectiscientioliely clad.'
be fuiflited.--( Hear, hear!)---lie neeetre the ii.nourahle
li:troact that lie (amid ttrwtr pc.lsota,lly for the fate daring the
het fa,' months, in whielt lie heil been lei:toured with a etet
in the Coutiell, and ha lchtte that during a• ay month, prior, to
diet thm m
i, the attention of Government generally, Anti the clog'
atter, tion of many individual members of it, Lid been constantly
directcd'te the subject in qtwetion. lltt would gut farther, unti
(,)nkss that, for a time, he laid been sanguine cruiughto be.
I:evii that seat; ineasure of direct relief might be advised ; lendho had lost unwillingly, at last, been driven to u conviction
that the
„sneiteure which he had contemplated would not be

effective ;--still, that conviction, however reluctant, was a
complete anti a sincere one, and it would be doing no service,
but on the contrary, great disservice to the interest in question
and to the country at large,. to excite Or to authorize hopes
which could not be reeliztels With such explanation of his
personal opinion, and of the anxiety with which he had arrived
at it, he was compelled to avow, that if any direct measure for:
agricultural relief exieted, the Government did not profess
to see the way to it. • If there were shame in that avowal, it
was a shame which Govetnment would share with two Coin-
!maces of the "louse, 'which had comprised in their numbers all
that was most capable and most interested to devise those reme-
dies which the Hon. Barnet demanded. Ile could only add,
that if the lion. Baronet himself saw any means—if he thought
he had any measureand would submit it to consideration, it
would receive the especial ettention of Government, and he
might safely.add, e the House ; but, however it might be the
duty of Ministers to provide remedies for evils which could be
remedied; they would ill discharge their duty if they shrunk
from declaring (where they had honestly formed such an opi-
nion) that no direct remedy existed. But if there was no
remedytiirect in the present case, there might nevertheless be
collateral remedies. .1 nhad been, a disputed point in the House
how tier remission "of taxation would afford, or would not, colla-
teral relief to the egriculturist ; but, without entering into dis-
cussion which opinion upon that point was the right one, the
Government had thought it right to turn their attention to that
course, while there was even a possibility that relief might be
effectedby it; and the only immediate measure which Minis-
ters had. to propose would be contained in the statement which
the Right Ilen. Chancellor of the Excheguer was to open on
that day se'nnight, in a considerable diminution of direct taxa-
tion.—(Cheers.),-He trusted before he sat down that nothing
which lie had said had evinced a want of sympathy- with that
interest which the Crown had declared to be the most important
interest of the country ; but if the landed interest wee the basis
upon Which all the 'other intereste of the country stood, then it
was impossible that those other interests could be benefitted
without an advantage gradually, but steadily, accruing to the
great interest which was their foundation, and without pro.
ducing eventually, though not so rapidly as might be wish-
ed, to that interest a sure and a permanent relief.
Mr. CURWEN gave Ministers credit for;having looked anxi-
ously to the question, brit was much dissatisfied with their de..
termination that no direct relief could be afibrded: If such were
the opinion of Government, the country was indeed in a most
perileus situation, for he could ootehorte for amendment unless
in relief front taxation—( Hear, from the Ministers.)—lle meant
from direct taxation, pressing on the agricultural interest. In
the present boasted advantageous state of the manufacturer, it
should be recollected how much of that advantage was owing
to the low prices. Ile was not for breaking faith one point with
the public creditor ; but he wished to Nee the fundltolder tak-
ing his share of the burden-of the poor-rates. The funds ought
tote as-match chargeable for the support of the burdens of the
country as any other species of property whatsoever. As the
property charged with the poor-rates must, under the existing
state of things, be' situated in sonic particular parish or dis.
trict, and as the funded property was of a different description,
and did not arise from the same source, it followed that the latter
was exempted front contributing{ to the assistance of the poor—
There were many reasons which should induce the house to
take this subject into their most serious consideration. There
were feelings connected with it which, thought he deprecated
them, ought to lead the fundholders themselves to give imme-
diate attention to this .point, for the purpose of mheting, in a
fair proportion, the pressure of the poor-rates. The funded
property was at present greater titan all that watedetived from
lands and houses ; but taking itm
even at the sae amount, and
supposing it made to conduce, in its due proportion, to the
support of the poor-rates a!very considerable relief would thus be
effected. Was tt, he would ask, fitting that the funded proprietors
should receive the whole of their income, whilst the country gen-
tlemenpaid, front the land, the entire of the poor-rates ?It was
a principle that ought not to be acted on, and Inc. hoped the
question would be fully discussed in that House—whether the
fundholders had not a right to keep pace with the landed pro-
prietor in meeting the exigencies of the time ? He wished to
keep faith with the public creditor; but, when lie called for
their full participation indite public burdens, when he called
for that relief from them which the country ought to hays, he
did not conceive that he was demanding any thing:unfair. Ile
believed, by pursuing such a course alone could that state of
things be prevented, the mere contemplation of which must
make every man shudder. The present over-abundance in the
country arose, he was convinced, not from over production, but
from under-Consuinption. Individuals were, from the pressure
of the times, obliged to use 'a species of food, different from
that to which they had beeit accustomed ; and when, hereafter,
they came to consider the quantity of grain raised:in the coon-
try, they would find such a deterioretion of proditce as was
likely, in the end, to create the greatest evils. He was per.
fectli convinced and satisfied, that tinder the present system
England would not be able.taptoduce, as a Country, more titan
would be sufficient for her own consumption. If, therefore, no
one else would conic forward, he would take the sense of the
House on the question, whether all the, property in the country
should not be equally rated for the support or the poor? lie
knew that many other modes of relief had been pointed out;
but lie was mire that not One of them would be effective in pro-
ducing that portion of benefit to the agricultural classes which
their situation so imperatively required.
Arr. ROBERTSON Was anxious, as he felt most deeply in-
terested in this question, to offer it'rew remarks for the &nisi-
deration of the house. Ile wished to bring the question dis-
tinctly before theM, and to state What were his views and inten-
tions whit respect to it. They had heard, bins to time,
different reasons assigned for the prevailing distress. He, how-
ever, believed, that e system of credit which had been adopted
in this country for Many years, was one great cause of the evils
the people were now labouring under. A e this suggestion was
new, he threw it out for .the consideration of the Members of
that Houee, previously to the period when he might bring it
more formally under their consideration. During the French
and Spanish war, fr0m,1740 to 1749, the Government borrowel
etooney at the rate or 3 and 4 per cent. Now, would contend,
that if their credit were equally good at present; as it was then,
they should not have been borrowing money doting the late
wars at 7Or 8 per cent. Ile Would explain. There was no
Money borrowed in the 3" per cents., dinette; those recent wars,
but at the average rate of per cent. for all sums paid into the
Exchequer; besides which there was given to the loan contrac.
tors, a sum 01401. in addition. For what reason' wait that sum
given to thcni ? -Why should it be preeented to them, 'when
they did not advance one &riling for it ? Now it ,wes.quite
evident to him, that it wee this system of. horeprog—
of' borrowing on ttlinotes termer-::which had plientkl the
country into Motto difficulties of which: all cliolttes were
complaining. They were now compleoly in the hands
of a great monied body in the Aletropolia—who could,
at their pleasure, keep the interest of 'money at as high
a rate as they those.—(No ; and hear, heat !)- le contended,
in answer to the Gentlemen who slid " No," that they could
do so, In a very great measure. Ile would: ask, when, at the
conclusion of the war to which he had first alluded, the Go-
vernment were borroseing money at an interest'of :v. for ever},
100/, paid into the .ExChegiter, how it happened, at the condo-
vion of the late war, 'that the 3 per cents. rose above 100 ?
Scarcely had the. country been a year et peace, till the three
per cents. rose to 102. Now, uiilette Gentlemen could prove
that the profits on trade and capital were 4renter at the present
moment than they were' at the time to which he referred, or
that there was now less capital in the country than there was
then, he mast contend that Ide'c4se was borne out. 'that ca.
pital was plentiful, no one could deny. . They saw their mo.
nied men were reduced to' such dillicultica to get rid of their
capital, that they were throwing themselves into the arms of
every desperate Governinent in the world. The whole of this
state of thin,arose from the system of Coetrect which he,
had dacribed, He contended that, if they heti not been bor-
rowing at a rem of from 7,t0 8 per cent. when it might have
beep avoided, they wOuld not have been in thpir preeent situa-
tion. They might now; when they had tin Overflowing capital,
more than they knew what to do with, burrow money ut li, 2i,
e
or 8 per cent. to met the debt, which would give more ;chef to
tts
the country than any nit tort: he had beard recommended in
that House. The good system cf me:debit:lute the Exchequer
every shilling Si,hidi the Government borrowed, and of paying
for it the interest alone, (which, he svas going to may, was the
most honourable system, but which certainly wee the fairest
and beet 'tbr die public), ought to strictly edepted. By pit?.
sulog that course, they would be enabled, if it' were necessatY,
to pay e iiieher rate of interest during a war ; and it was better,
to pay .10 Per cent., and redneo it afterwards, than to borrow
woney in the way oleo had done. It was his intention to sub-
mit a motion to the Muse.. io reduce the burden arising; frotn
the national tiebi, on the prineiPle he had described, end which
he weuld then more fully explain-
The report was then agnsed on
A new writ vette erderethfor the liorotigh of BOsgineY, in the
room of Sir C. Datnville, who has accepted the Chiltern.
'rendre'
Mr- 11- litT(C!'itlTNllPOlNJ,Ce(eelini;Salnll°lol'n: t e tlenum (Mr.
W. VVyto? in his place, "wished to ask him, 'whether his Learn-
ed i;*rienti ,:11r. 'Plunkett) persevered in his intentioe to bring
the Catholic question before- the Ifouse on the 20th liter., as he
lii,e4;‘,Ll:tiitynt7drltttiri..:\nvdelotoNtri,tlsibittiordiptlgincolinetsraitarytio?n
in
stating,
that
his
Arr. HUM (as wee undertsititenedlrt;ittivonnnfoortiLa,litamt that day.
he would on Monday next submit a motion to the, House on the subject of
the Lieutenant.generalmhip of this Ordnance,--Adjouined. • .

LORD PORTSMOUTH'S CASE.

EXAMINATION under Ac KING'S COMMISSION.

. FREEMASONS' HALL, FRIDAY, FEE.IFIFTII DAY.
l' be Court opened at ten o'clock this morn-
ing, and immediately 'proceeded to business.
Thomas Powell examined, by Mr. PEPYS—Wm bailiff to
Lord Portsmouth from 1811 to 1815 ; always passed his ac-
counts with her late Ladyship ; received orders from his Lord.
ship, but never obeyed them, having received directions from
her late Ladyship not to mind what his Lerdahip said ; Lord
Portsmouth was sometimes present when witness settled his ac-
counts ; has seen Lord Portsmouth whip the servants, 'pinch
their ears, and Throw beer in their faces ; has seen Lord Ports-
mouth attend, funerals; he used to
,call himself the: undertaker
and act as such; he would also act as clerk, giving out and singing
the psalms; has seen hist ringing in the belfry ; from what he
has seen of his Lordship, never considered hint as capable of
conductimi his affairs. .
Cross-examined by Mr. C. F. Winnia.ars--"Was turned
. out of the farm by Mr. France, thator Hunt, Lawyer Pain!,
and others, in 1815 ; never lived in the service of his Lordship
since ; Mr. France was at that' time the Solicitor of Lord Ports-
mouth ; has seen Mr. Fellows at the farm ; is now in the ens.
ploy of Mr. Fellowes, as bailiff ; witness does not recollect that
Lord Portsmouth brought an action of trespass against him ;
nonotice of the action was served upon hint ; knows that ac-
tions were brought against some people for trespass, but can't
say whether he was one of them ; has not paid any part of the
costs e does not know that any one has paid them on his ac-
count ; has never heard of those costs being paid ; a bill was
filed against witness ; never paid the costs ; it is . always the
system of witness to speak the truth ;'will not say otherwise,
unless the gentlemen draw it out of hits through his want of
education ; .has heard of Long and Austin ; cannot say whe-
ther they were the Solicitors of witness on the occasion of the
bill being filed t was turned out of the house by the persons
natrtedlefore, and two Bow-street officers, for speaking the
truth in an affidavit on the former commission ; has given in-
structions to Mr. Sharrard, Who is the Solicitor of Mr. Newtcsi
Fellowes. ' . .
By the Juns•—litts lived with Mr. Fellowee since 1816---has
heard Lord Portsmouth complain both before and after his
marriage with the present Lady Portsmouth, of not having his
will, orthe command of his property.
James Palmer, examined by Mr. TYNDAL—Wm once ser-
vant
with Mr. Hanson, sen. ; was in his service at the time of
Lord Portsmouth's marriage with Mist Hanson ; witness re-
mained, in that service from September to December 1814;
he was then footman to Lady Portsmouth for about six
months ; accompanied his Lordship to Hurstbourne ; Mr.
C. Hanson came down there ; he was about 25 or 26; had
occasion one day to go into the dining-room ; Mr. C. Hanson
and Lord P. were quarrelling; his Lordship threatened Mr. C.
Hansen that he would bring an action 'against him for killing
anti sending away his game; Mr. C. Hanson went up to his
Lordship, holding up his fist in a threatening manner, and or-
dered hits to leave the room ; has frequently heard Mr. C.
Hanson order his Lordship to go to bed ; has no doubt of these
orders having been given shortly after dinner ; certainly before
bed time; quarrele between Lord Portsmouth, her Ladyship,
and Mr. C. Hanson, were very frequent ; tlteobject was to con-
troul his Lordship; commanding language used ; has heard
Lady Portsmouth threaten bis Lordship that he would send
for somebody to take care of ltim ; never knew his Lordship to
have any money in his possession beyond a few shillings; when
letters arrived for his Lordship, Mr. Hanson, Mr. C. Hanson,
or Lady Portsmouth opened them ; Lord Portsmouth was al.
ways treated as a man of unsound mind, and incapable of either
managing his own affairs or taking cure of hie own person.
Cross-exaMined b' Mr. ll' 11,nr.--'7Was discharged on' the
ground of witness having made an affidavit, for which Lady
P. threatened him.
ily the .1u n y—Lord P. sometimes opened his letters.
George Bebbitt, examined by Mr. I?owEnn—ln 1814 was
clerk to Mr. Parker, proctor, ,of Doctors' Commons; remem-
bers the marriage of Lord, Portsmouth : application was made
to witness on a Sunday, for a license, by Mr. C. Hanson; it was
about' two o'clock ; . he asked Winters if it was Ppssible for a
license to belobtsined on that day; could not ;accomplish it ;
attended at Alt. Hansen's house on the Monday morning, at
about mine o'clock, when the license was drawn up;, did then
attest deeds ; two or three. ::. • .
By Commissioner 111; e i, ocx—Dr. Burnaby, and .M Chad.
ton, of Doctors' Commons, necompanied witness to Mr. Ilan-
,eon's, where Atr. Charlton filled Up'the license ; licenses were.
usually filled up at Docters''Commons; it was at the request
of Mr. C. Hanson, hat it teas filled up in Bloornsbney-square.
Mr. iirs:Tritnvent called for the production 'of the &eds of
which lie had given notice to the Counsel on the othereide.
A copy only being in Courtethe originals were sent for.
John Dell examined by Air. Vivi:Tilt tiren---Is a w'ateh-
inak4T, arid re giitt:s at No. 28, I, anb's Conduit-street—attentled
at Mr. Hanson's on the 7th of Alitrch, • 1 ,y desire of Mr. Han-
son,jton—wae there at abein balf.pest 9.--two doctinients were
produced—does not know the nature of them as they were:not
read, Witness was retptested to witness their execution,i,
person said any thing to Lord Pertsinoutin
,nor did he Make
any, remaric—never knew of any eminent watchmakerwhartei!
been ealled w
, upon to attest deeds—there
as no stop tell
Mr. Haneon's at least did not require winding up.
CHIEF cOMMISIONER-4re thedeeds produced?
Mr. Wrlent—ii7o have net flee deeds.
Co 3174ISSIONER—They must ba produced. In whose hands
are they ? , • , :. ,
Mr. FRANCE—I believe they'arein the, custody of Mr. C.'
Haman, its trustee under the deed of settlement.
„. Mr. Al, ItleE.— We certainly have them not; we will use
our exertions to protlu'ee them— if lee fail, the Court will act as
they think fit. - , - - - .'
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Air,i '11)roi titl)tt::c.w,t ibo:triA.
y
clerk' of St. Oeorge's'll yeatn,bas freqnently seen Lord P. at
ptttil;.rillnacie
eniofen
o.4l,lacorilnriiri•rociiento(.ll:nittSialioLlin:ilbiefo:lirCrt:Tl:ltgigililelletl:E4:s:dolutllnfit)l
ilseit:ilitt:oinstrtittaciyaillat;e:4,tob‘r,‘::(7o.,:tuti,ori:atlimaof:irh(iriaiir;:antigpar.r:eipsilicaum.iilliita---:sain.a.*Aivtioairbi_ti.
'nice was over a license was handed
11:0t.
letnitnetrnetnl tl.)l4_cllviuire)elni
tb withe ,t
LonunnintPn.ciluva.asrtetlr
oar
whotl Lgaati; -ie-t thteci tt1:1:r e?.lli,euril gyY 111].fts ttle—tl
Benjamin Goose examined-- Liveid.orads;hcioa:,... ill
el.' pri'l, 1814.,: t' o °cob: 1815 tuawnasdirectl
Inoniriltetneistsn,
an h00r..-
rclifPillae,al:4conit.eirThiruly,ltatvhyl(gne:itwina,o:ntrratrNtthnseosidnlatrv.to:fleorrttr°,uynhilarnittrigyhi:,eniroircauierrst:tlistoid:re"youl:.er°aitirlde,l,l4:;b;,tioilinceod!si
1. went tn.°l tli.lAlthe
and AlieS Her were Loettil )‘
4wPaO°l :1 dnoui Itl;*eidll7siu:p:ntt'lt°l‘tr:erti)litll:°):4°lnTt'lSl!srs-er-;
Lord
Portsmouth
Portbsnuttoaufttherowradrder:d4ildi:ol.o.
airthgotpt
into ;getasoffha
eras
with mud .
'ti)l4ie'ftea'sfrritcorPirwitLn°ltivi'oriviartir:tdPitetinntl9d°.2lWl gtilt;lieliit;Ot7634Sitiaotility;
idbi to
3 .oeinudxmr gettingnt
;flaaal klynhi:
den:o:litu4r:ilwteatti ef:dan'uysilciLsei o:
refused
downoe e;ysg
eti .
/Imbed bit,, off rhe steps ; he
, Lord off
ouch said 'he _

would bring at actioa, against witness and hotly Portsmouth;
went to Southeed in 1818; one day heard a scuffle in thestudy,
and sthortlY afterwards Lord P. opened the door and ran out rryln
C. Hanson was following him and striking him with a whip, old
following him along the peas age ; Lord P. do :wards lobbed and
cried, very much,. said he would go to town, and ordered his
Pha,tart ; Samuel Osborne took it round to the front floor; his
Lordship came out ; got into the plueton, and while he was
taking the reins, a whip, utnbrella, and same other trifling
things which his Lordship had put into' the pheeten, %tele
handed out by Samuel Osborne and another servant ; his Lord-
ship then drove off' towards Loudon ; but returned two hours
after, when he found the things were not in the phaton ; 3lr•
Alder was at Southend; one day Lady Portsmouth, Miss
!Janson and Alder, went across the river; they were absent
three or four dans ; has seer: 31r. Newton Hanson strike Lord
Portsmouth with a stick, or whip, at It furstbouine Park; hie
Lordship frequently complained of the ill-treatment he received
from the Ilanion faintly ; once the carriage haying been driven
against a post, .Lady Prirtsmonth scelded his. Lordship vetfe
much ; Lora Portamouth said it was witness'sfault ; Lord
Portsmouth has frequently borrowed silver of witneis, Wing
he was kept very short of money ; witness believed he was 30.41,
Lord Portamouth frequently beat anti pinched witness ; W"1
take hold of his ear, and cry. " quack l quack 1." r '
By the Jury—Nl'hen his Lordship borrowed money 0- Ireth
.ness, he always paid hint again • sometimes three week' h`,l
it had been borrowed ; without 'beir.reniindell a it; rot.
pay the exact sum ; the servants did nut pay any respect w''''
Lordship t they were ordered not to mind him.
Richard Jones, examined by:3le. llnouotr.tiit--Was 4 er.
hours
dener in Lord Portsmouth's service from 1816 to 1819; doting
that time his Lordship's behaviour was different to that of other
masters;never wished
took anywitnessnettoigeisofanidlissrLocalr
jds!ui
any other of the servants; the Countess tiesirca them not
mind his Lordship, but to took to her Ladyship entirely !ere
orders; list borrowed money. f witness. Mr. Alder ratt'!!
Fairlawn in the year 1917; he was shabbily dressed ; but each
wards his appearance was greeds' improved ; Lord Potsinetttans
was not at Fairlawn when 31r. Alder came here ; neither wet
her Ladyship ; air. Alder went away; he came again ";rior
months afterwards, then he was well dress(ll: the family et;
staying there; he did not associate with Lord PartstnEehes
generally walked with her Lsdyship or her sister, _Miss .
_.,..
Hanson ; his Lordship must have seen Mr. .Alderand iisu!,
Portsmouth together; Lady P. used. to goto town from Fariaesw;
every morning at about 10 o'clock ; she went ED" t•lntia
iniii"sfor°nl:l'eCisi:nrioeril.ii
week. and sometimes every day for some months ; she went
the chariot, and usually returned at about six Albekt 01" loth
nobody went with her but the coachman ; Lire
•r°rlteest
would amuse himself by - carting dung or stones,
did not always allow him to do so ; when he 1V1"1.,,,ne%,
throw the dung on a meadow where rasi was Vea
ing, witness locked the gate to preVent bin!.; 31,. th,
Sim: at Fairlawn every night in 4 room called e
trees
Bow-room," betweeo which and that of LatlY P. diet et
reruetel
ri
only a dressing room which opened into each:
the time when Sir Richard 'l3irnie was at Fairlawn
ei'tiiin,
Portsmouth was walking uhouc on the lawn in a "herYm hoe
choly mood ; lie was aldhe • told witness " they' have ,heal,
horewhipping me, and that 'a
—d a—li. Laura li ,in,„,
has cut me across the face—don't •You see?" There was
on' bur'
'sell,.
wale across his jaw. Lord Portsmouth told witness, on h
.ee„
der that d---d sillier', .Alder, ' has :marked me alewil'ldiri
His Lordship had
_just got up ; 31r. Alder was st 4 him
by his Lordship, who hr,d got bellied witness to keep, a
between Alder and hit Lortiehip ; he cried eery trotenei:a;
his hand was, cut by the gravel, which witness extra:hoe
Lady Portsmouth wss st the time. standing on the steps
sod
but. e•i
ti,
Mr. Alder; Lord Portsmouth weut anti sat under a tree, e,,t
cried much ; witness sat down by him ; Mr.. Alder came litesito
shaking his fist in Lord Portsmouth's face, said, "nPrePoselt
tight with me a duel to-morrow morning ;” lahlY hirer then'
was then only twenty yards from Mr. Alder. hir. A
went and walked into the hall, arm-in-nnn with lottlY,fe the
mouth; Lord P. remained upwards of two hours under st
tree; no one went to hint but Charles Want, the foottna'Vea
the time Lady Portsmouth used to go to London eveTiarti IC
came to witnesas one morning,
Mr. Alder was not 'at Fairlawn; this was in 181; sal toa
Trim Lady P. had pinched. him ; believed i. he salutetd P•
bed-room ; did not now think, Dor ever haul thoogith To ;
of a sound mind, or caprible of managing his prlvaletnest to
- left the service in JBl9, in consequence our the dil NO.
which Lord Portsmouth was subjected; gave Lady
mouth warning. hat he b°7'
By the Jestas—Lord Portsmouth paid witnesseewhe
too
ther*
rowed of hint ; once paid him 2s..six weeks 'real to I,',°,'
rowed Aider itt.iiirdon:otpuLsdocowialtrie
..inli:iisra°:Aucoitduesnelrtciatili'tith),'eCif°"ChhhA'e.rel
sdirinnill'lini.
elahutli he
..11:11,11,,z*rpt
as'
ill*.!tr°ll'.. '
Ill'ootrtstmo ollettnldithhiserLoLurdcixtsihpipanpyarnid 'oriet
itlti)ointiela, ; l'i utilte°ro
iiithel)
armwere
Mr.n dil
Benson,
nesnoonu, anti always walked ' toe; er„ , hhil
he has seen Mr.
door indeed; when his Lordship'l?,2.
them ;" once it-anted witness to go early
away, he wouhi say, " he had done theni,,"-n-d i't' he hr th
'Thomas Broomfield examined liy 11r.
accomplish his object, he would say, " I about liit,, t)lt•
Webster's to cart away his dune. .
1' est°
door to Lord Portsmouth at Fairlawn Grave aniu '''--11$"4
thin= that passed at Lord Portsmouth's, if tolerably I°l. pairta.:
heard cries id murder; violent screams, and vrjc Ihifh,,te cries`
eas
?ptillfrequentlyooer housecrt;gentlemantst
n''°il '1,1:01 withflurini n:t,l whom ilialbeforelt4.farhks
eaten
lif.ii:ne4, .tat., 8.
tihrweilll'T
latlarilt'dlleb
abut
1 ersnwar
idhu talk
uni ' stttal oh Portsmouth.eenrvo,itityl.ti' Tl. . ' 6_
'011°Y:
.:
14 1:4 I 'tes: VI:
reoils) Sunday
3'lin:dui:l ~9.
.01 1.
ii'n ii
d.,111r.
I. -I,at
i'lyltill i IF‘:1(3:',: 4(1,--:.11i.evi.:1:71 1 .:
"1
..".ti.-r_. a,
,°rltiwi'?arroug.., ;""leotnsehrito' et'
ntltdo:ritttge,
.I),nfer nrgdr) shorethtihr::: .igse '
common ; Lord Portsmouth followed theith' ' n'The'a,' the inlet
back and pursued Lord Pertsirroath, who ran within - ii (01-
hawed it inunediately afte hoard a dreadful •10'5e,:-Jor) y-
-133 of teperson being beat severely. II fr. titl:'''',l., ycle.i6"-
' seafrte.ivoriitel•ip:htifiltillt.TYs; exiiminect by Mr .r
state. . e: .
euthknel
C,
..
,ross-examined by Set'eara pv, y Lord Portemh. (00
witness by name ; often 1 hh"'-''' •a- , and ml
aseed him lave he Iva.,
. h into dh
and left the serVice of his aase 2nocretroati in 11117; te'leie the
flights of itepato.the house, talent the front and an°„tih.aolith;
back ; once saw Lady P , a Gentlem n, arid Lord i'• ihoteroli
together in the' hall; arAl. fiedlt P. struck 4 his LOrd'4ll.,P :le t 0
Te'nrd P. as uorier gird • c'ed carter, inh'Pe',"ette tiro
in the face ; Lord Per, smooth cried out • the, itel)ti6"liirtl Il
took a wffip omit ,'ie ~ p ~e ,,, i ' .esevith ''' a eat'
whipped hi, Ijord ~, : ~ ~..t :7mFnt.' 'i',.(13:11,4t „„rder. -Pooled.
toiardi the entrance : ': . .. ''.
'.
;throe,' him Ana reel of
him :down' the ;steps ; liourii :Nur :. ~ earth fell at -ill li°, poet''
the steps; he then struck ids Lordship pen', t 'l° it/o°s.-
mouth did not interfaxe. ; was very Young ahthe t';rt-16;eY mutt
lalow who the gentleman was ; his lereaship crier- veej ee ,
and tried to mike his escape, but the gate'zi beitig iaa7o, dal'
not ; has heard leerd hortonoatl; say he would not $ „,
to be so- bcat by her 1 .adyshiP -'' • ' ' . a Slinh'
' G4..orge Trak dep,)scd'll •-' .1
ate ;1 ay olioue'rh lotlik''
ati,Fitithilll, as a carpenter.
chapel : formerly' worked ii7AtileeAtert;i eh.: tof itorti Pt) ntsT,s holia,
Moj ill'it'lliislArit;
I, Iresinouth welkino thgether, end saw ;hides sth-ie oaf II
a remembered
ship two violent blow., his breast which,rohde haneseduetP
Lady Portsmouth New this ; then...lit she and Alder ce) e_ ; '''''
that': if he did not', canda het 611°un''hil) '''''s;
-themselves more lih.e man and h:ife than anY tiOdniii' Ulf
membered having teen his leo le` a, scat- for of .; -EC.; -'t
his Lordehip re
ship to frank a letter, and hiSafenn-11,'.1 il); reio7,:. iitui;-'01100e;
sent wbril hack,
whiPPed, and his cart and horses seta ; his I.friio rsewel',? very much frightened ; nave saw her laollsn'Pheil ihroasee
luinutes. On cne oecasio 1 T. iali is ,-eoth " • or"'
into the • 't i 1 l'h w len mh, ur,' 'ahh, in 1:1% ihe
'hsea sole en as had .ea . shz, c'''''—oss gni '
corneae, ,o.t.er ousocrt hail ahoe ,heeth tat ah' t ' 4
his leeirdillio then earne into the st dslea end V:'h t: P'
t4cogreathnets; ati;lt‘nsezttairin„tr;c3„!e;,..!.Aelad,erft,t)rod,litieJlout,2l.ostla*,
ihr-,cteer
wtiliteeli:;.;
(11?oe.3‘nrre:rit)et ':l;i'isi t 11. T'''.:ll lc. rive' , ~(''lyt;lh;A::ldritsi....gA:"l":lo' rci :tin) jej7,'t:tio'elltli.!:4;:rh'i ha;
i at theyS
it
A: i: l'n)..", - It
talcil?':ll:et Itheie:' siliwiticictlsir-L:11*: is
oZt,foirlearlituodthber,:,.l.:larrilole:t,hl. Onc'etitir-rictint!sklliortaiird.icP:sr.ieeptsle.,:i
and his I,orilliiri belkve:(l 1- ,_,4ra sePae• thi
knit joint. hc,alaatl about black t
his his
- '
ght 1...10re th
--an an hour it a time. '- A ''''' ' ' 101°i1) S .
having thrust hini clown ataitile.
'filo nes Si:able:La sureeon, at l'avalealaVecn.,,t wt"thaah
!ailed in nets .art aexidenth Which --I.orh P. ha" '1„I'lh-
.her' to
I, James Rutty
snip, who Wi.t! 7' • . a i had ltatiphi hi in cothloosecath toil) Lordship haeilie aeite ett. -I.lis lanclehip traned„ro, Pr rills .
an indigc ant roanner eald it oas h. cutismuence or "c erd a
S',4Cilt., that some years ago, 'here nth oast '
ortartoutlhe serVice as a gardener. Saw '.3lr. Aehci often 4o:
quentiv with lter letayeaie than his Lordship,..""'e, her .411
Lady Portsineuth kaV6 Peirreawn iii. `the Mho:lice' etialr•Vhe .
rile' and she would not eente home all days at; s,Loeft instal`
flight had seen 11r. Alder knocked Lord s raf„:osont :141'
Ihrtesenee of Latly P.,' Mrs. }Janson, anti Lahr" lee hollhiot
out Mies llaneen or• Lade r. interfering. lcidee' shato4e
tried out treader when 'staler struck him, and j'' ettalir 41' violently aeainst Pi , • 1 ; , cels the aos"
.s he
Lord p t 1,: . . a hoth ; tat ham
• 0 sep hint in ~we. Lord P. told witnt et it;
sore from brim knocked down. : , mill 'fehl.°
• The Ilea- Icho. sant:WA:a thought Lord P..n°.; auto'
his intellects, but that hie mind was no. under t" as
er
reason.
„win-stole.'
, .
BY-the Jury—lf Lord P. had asked 1411,71„wef; distr°
Sac • •
raincnt, witntas would have been, execcualb'''
A djotirned. . A
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,t,
ii,,w
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