The Sun.
London, England, 1840-07-28 00:00:00

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before it—( Hear, hear.) The commission which had
been appointed it was intended should make a searching
inquiry. The commissioners either had or had not made
that inquiry. If they had not the mere statement of
opinion without such inquiry would not justify Parliament
in passing so strong an Act. If they bad made the in-
quiry, then he contended Parliament had not bad the
whole of the evidence laid before it, and he was not pre-
pared to sanction such a measure. What better grounds
could be urged than those he had heard stated?—( Hear. )
He contended that Parliament ought not to interfere with
property except in cases of eactreme necessity. This was
not a case which called for the interference of the Legis-
lature in a manner so unusual, so unprecedented, and so
dangerous as was proposed by this Bill. The Bill was a
distinct notice to every man never to devote any part of
his property to ecclesiastical purposes, and the immediate
effect of it would be to induce any person who might be
disposed to endow a particular church, or a particular
living, to hold his hand, and to bequeath it to some other
purpose, which he had a better hope of seeing accomplished.
—(Hear, hear.) He would entreat their Lordships not to
suppose that if they passed this Bill they would augment
the small livings, for he maintained that the object of the
Bill, or, at any rate, the effect of it, would be to destroy
the Canonries and afterwards the Deans and Chapters.
They were called upon to take a most dangerous
step, and that for the purpose of obtaining a small
sum of money. He felt as strongly as any man the neces-
sit .of providing for parochial instruction, but Parliament
Id take care that that was not purchased at too dear a
i e.—(Hear, hear.)
s
The Bishop of GLOUCESTER submitted that the
Commissioners had made every possible inquiry, and the
result of their inquiries had not only been laid before Par-
liament but before the whole world almost: Many severe
and unfounded accusations had been made against the Epis-
copal Commissioners, but they had been disposed of by the
Most Rev. Prelate who had preceded hitu. Indeed, upon
his entering that House, a publication had been put into his
hands containing a calumny whielt.he was shocked to think
any one could be guilty of, namely, that, he and his brother
Episcopal Commissioners had disregarded the oath they
had taken, to protect as far as they could the rights, liber-
ties, and privileges of their cathedrals. He was grieved to
think that that unfounded accusation had been made by
one of his own order. To him and to all others who op-
posed the Bill he gave the fullest credit for sincerity—but
he claimed for himself and his brother Commissioners
equal sincerity, and he strongly denied and repudiated the
imputation that be had in the slightest degree violated
that solemn engagement which he had entered into, to
maintain the rights, liberties, and privileges of his Cathe-
dral Church. He asserted that the Bill would not destroy
either the honour, dignity, or prosperity of the Cathedral
Church ; on the contrary, it would remove any little ble-
mish that at present existed, and make it more pure
and perfect. But those calumnies had been fully an-
swered by the Most Rev. Prelate, and he would not detain
their Lordships with any further observations upon them.
h the manufacturing towns there was a great want of
clergymen, and it was a notorious fact that where that
want' was manifested, there were very few prebends.
With respect to the proposition which they had heard from
the Learned Counsel, and which had been alluded to that
evening, of confining the appropriation of the funds to the
diocese or deanery from which it was obtained, he feared
if they adopted that course they would not reach the dis.
tricts in which the greatest spiritual destitution existed.
Now Chester and Ripen were the worst off in that respect,
and could barely afford a miserable pittance to the lower
classes of the clergy. He had now stated his views in
support of the present measure, and he should merely refer
to the closing observations of the second Learned Counsel,
who asked what posterity would say of them if they passed
the present Bill ? He was ready to join issue with the
Learned Counsel, and to ask what posterity would say of
them if they permitted so much spiritual destitution to
exist when tbnre were ani!de funds at their disposal ?
He believed it would be found that the Ecclesiastical
Commissioners had discharged their duty to the
best of their ability for eheir Sovereign and their
country, and he should on these grounds give his support
to the measure.—( Hear, hear.)
The Bishop of SALISBURY trusted their Lordships
would not give their assent to the present measure without
the best and fullest deliberation. To a sound and searching
reform of their Ecclesiastical establishments he for one
would never el jest. Holding these opinions, he had wie-
e,eieed with feelings of satisf-tetien the appointment of the
4;ernmissiou to inquire into ecclesiastical establishments,
Ites.:ng that it had received the sanction and approval of the
cuittury. The present measure would, however, fail to
produce the results that were anticipated, and be could not,
therefore, give it his support. He would not say one
wont as to the grievous destitution which unhappily ex-
isted in the eouetry, and he was riot surprised that those
to whoum the consideration of .ho question was confided
bed in a great manner lost sg,llt of practical mea-
sures of improvement in the contemplation of the
vast amount of sp/rituai destitution which they
11 'd discovered. Ho theuebt his position enabled
him to obtain more accurate information as to the senti-
ments' of the clergy of hie :.lioeoßc, thoi the Most Rev.
Prelate, at. any ()thee of the Corimissicucrs. He had
made it ills study to ass nation the opiaions of his elargy on
the preseee subject. and he teleeied iliny ,vcro one and ail
satisfied that' the Bill would produce IDLit:l dissatisfaction
without any ..ammensurate so , alvage i:i the country. He
asked nothing more, and he b,iiy.-ed his hr. Rev. Brethren
aske.,-! nothing wore, than to s,_e of ,_-.:: institutions made
more conducive to the interests of the Established Church.
—( Hear, bear.) The Commits:ones-a appeared to have
limited their views to two objects, the maintenance of the
I.hric of the church, and the extension of the means of
parochial instruction. Other objects were glanced , at,
but these were the main ones. With respect to the first
of these 4,l)jects he would remind their Lordships that
even now the funds for the maintenance and repair of
the cathedrals fell far short of what it formerly was.
As to the second part, this pert;omance of public worship,
it appeared to him that the provieions of the Bill
were calculated materially to impair the utility of these
institutions, because when the number of canons was re-
duced, illness or any other accidental circumstance would
prevent the performance of divine service altogether. It
could not, therefore, he said that the public service a the
Church was more eMciently provided for by the present
Bill. It was unnecessary for biro to point out the con-
nection between the Cathedral institutions and the diffu-
sion of sound theological doctrines. It was well known
that many of these most eminent and learned divines were
men who had passed their lives in the seclusion of these
institutions, and who had thereby fitted their minds for the
consideration of these important questions. In the Uni-
versities of Germany, Prussia, and Hanover, which were
somewhat analogous to their Cathedral institutions, the
same pre-eminence in theological learning was evident,
and that consideration ought, he thought, to have sonic
weight with their Lordships before they assented to a
measure which would go far towards their annihilation.
This profession of the law had been for some time over-
stodted, while the Church wanted candidates, and how
could it be wondered at, when every year new offices of
great honour and emolument were created in the former,
while, 'hough many offices had also been created in the
latter, th ey had been attended with but laborious duties
and sleud lr emoluments? In seeing this he would not be sup-
posed
to believe that persons generally entered the Church
from improper motives, but it slioufrl be remembered that
numbers entered that sacred profession at the desire of
others rather than their own, and could it' be expected that
parents would bring up their choicest te,Tspring to a pro-
fession which offered so little prospect of t,:,at worldly ad-
vantage which it was natural a parent shoeild desire his
offspring to enjoy? He trusted it would not be considered
that he (a:ejected to this measure from any factiot'S or per-
sonal motives. He wished that it might yet be submitted
to further consideration, and ho thought if this e "ere the
case a measure could be devised of more real reform and at
the same time less objectionable than that which h e had
thus felt it his duty to oppose.--( Hear, hear.)
The Bishop of LINCOLN, who was almost inaudible
in the gallery, said in his diocese there were several p c.:?..
bends to which small curacies were attached, and if thisir
Lordships refused the Bill, he should be compelled ..'43
shut them up, and thus, even should another measure of
the kind be introduced, the benefit accruing from it would
be postponed twenty or thirty years, and a new set a
vested interests would be created.

The Bishop of ROCHESTER rote to explain, butt
the cries for a division prevented his being heard.
The House then divided, and the numbas wer3—
Contents
Non-Contents

Majority for 30=1(1 reading... -5r
The Bill was then a second time, and the Houser ad-
journed at Twenty minutes before Una o'clock.

HAMBURG II MAIL.

FRANKFORT, JULY 16. M. Frank, the political wri tin
of this city, was discharged on the 13th from the citadel of
Mayence, the time of his imprisonment having expir.
There are now only two persons imprisoned for polite.
cflences at Mayence, one of whom will probably be allow ad
to go to North America agreeably to his own request.
STOCKHOLM, JULY 17.—The Royal proposition respet t •
log the convocation of extraordinary Diets has been unar.i. •
moualy.rejected in the Committee.

HAMBURG'', JULY 23.—The Augsburg Gazette has a
letter from Berlin of the 15th, which says that the King*
has sent through Baron Alexander Von Humboldt, am in.
vitation to the two brothers, Greinon, to fix their residence
at Berlin, there to continw.e their studies, and, at the r ama
time to execute the commission to be given them by his
Majesty on literary matters, for which they will recci\ ,e a
salary.
BERLIN, JULY 23. is reported that a plan for the
regulation of the press has been drawn up, by which gr tat
works relative to the sciences or belles lettres, shall be
wholly exempt from the censorship, and the journals ha re
greater liberty than at present. Persons whose rank in
society, or in the learned world, afford a sufficient securit r,
will likewise be exempted from the censorship, as was tli 3
case in the time of Frederick the Great. The professors:
of the University, the Members of the Academy, persons
high in noire, ore to be among the persons exempted,—

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'ConFitivrable ciamaoe bas been sustained in the
beiiThhcarhood of Stockton: by the torrents of rain which fell
on Tuesday night. Several bndgns have been seriously injured,
awl many a crop of grass has been swept away. The country
who attended Stockton Market on Wednesday, had in
stir y :;xistanccs to encounter great difficult,es, on account of the
roads' being flooded and the rivulets swollen. D urliam
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LONDON:
TUESDAY, JULY 28. 1840.

INSURRECTION IN SYRIA.

The Morning Post publishes in a second edi-
tion the following news, received express from
Paris. It does not harmonize well with the pro-
phecy of our CoAtemporary's " distinguished Cor-
respondent," pronounced so oracularly on Friday
last. Should the English Admiral have received
instructions to intercept and send back to Constan-
tinople the Turkish ships sent with reinforcements
from Alexandria to the army of IBRAHIM PACHA,
the aspect of affairs will be still worse for the VICE-
ROY. The speech of Lord PALMERSTON in the
House of Commons on Friday evening removes all
doubt from the public mind of Europe as to the
non-recognition by England of the right of ME-
HEMET ALI to interfere at all in Syria, save as
the subject of the Pone, who alone is entitled to
the allegiance of the Syrians. England, therefore,
in guaranteeing the integrity of the Turkish em-
pire, has as much right to assist the Syrians against
the PACHA as the inhabitants of Constantinople,
were his Highness mad enough to order his army to
advance upon that capital :
INSURRECTION IN SYRIA.
PARIS, MONDAY.

By the accounts from Beyrout which come down to the
4th instant (received by express), it appears that the in-
surrection in Syria was extending itself, and becoming
hourly more formidable. The insurgents defeated the
Egyptian forces in every encounter. The former had in
addition to native leaders two Frenchmen at their head.
The latter are described as inefficient and incapable of
resisting their vigorous opponents. The insurgents pro-
claimed that they fought for the Sultan, their legitimate
Sovereign, and had hoisted the Turkish flag.
Our accounts from Constantinople are to the 7th inst.
The Envoy of Mehemet Ali had not let been received by
the Sultan.
The treaty between England, Austria, Russia, and
Prussia, for terminating the affair between Turkey and
Egypt, was regarded in Paris as menacing the amicable
r 9iations of France and England, and occasioned serious
alarm in the F. each capital.
While upon the subject of the East we beg
to direct the attention of our readers to a se-
cond article from the Post's "Distinguished Cor-
respondent," which will be found in another
partmf The Sun. The only new revelation made
by the " distinguished writer is of a personal na-
ture. We did not trouble ourselves to guess who
he was ; but deeming it proper that we should
.know a little about him he has himself conde-
scended to inform us that he is an " old Whig"
illy principle ; leaving his chosen organ to insinuate
that in rank he is a lord at the very least. The
double revelation does not in the least over-awe us.
But the drollest part of the affair is, that though
his only quarrel is with Lord PALMERSTON for
differing with France upon the Oriental question,
his argument goes to show that France is mani-
festly wrong. He does not tell us in what way
England and France could agree to leave
the PORTE and the PACHA to settle their
differences without virtually constituting Russia
uardian of Constantinople. He does not
p,:z tvemeedn
lEHEMETAtoexplain
AiLn
and what
Ru wayssia
couldan
bep
alliancere
b.
V
(provided. the PACHA were allowed to wrest
Syria
PACHAotn the Porte) as would lead to a division
between toe CZAR and the VICEROY of the whole
of the territory lying between the Syrian border and
the 13!ack Sea. Whatever may lie the result, Lord
PA LNIERSTON could not have acted otherwise than
to has done without constituting the CZAR the sole
rotector of the Ottoman Empire, and giving to
lEHEMET ALI, in conjunction with Russia, the