The Sun.
London, England, 1840-11-17 00:00:00

TALLOW MARKET.

Prices for Russian were supported, but there was only a
limited business done either on the spot or to arrive ; 48s.
was the value for the former purpose. The stock is larger
than last year.
WHITECHAPEL HAY MARKET.
The supply was moderate, and the demand pretty good.
Clover at .31. 10s. to 5/. 12s. ; Meadow Hay at 31. to 41.
12s. ; and Straw at 1/. ,Ss. to 1/ 12s. per load.

LLO YD'S SHIPPING-(THIS DAY.)

LONDON, Nov. 17.—Wind this day at noon, moderate
S. Westerly breeze, at the same time foggy.
DRAL, Nov. 16.—Wind W. S. W., strong breezes and
squally.—Arrived the Anna, Robertson, from India. Put
back the London, Kent, for Jamaica, and Trinidad packet,
Westward, and remain with the outward bound.
MARGATE, Nov. 16.—Off port the Marquis of Huntley,
from Quebec.

LivEarooL, Nov. 16.—Wind W., fresh breeze.—Ar-
rived the Maypo, Mann, from Liana, sailed 19th August ;
William Russell, Bruce, Bahia, sailed Ist ult.; Paken-
' ham, Lloyd, Paraiba, sailed 13th ult. ; Joseph Cunard,
Qtebec • Coronet, St. Andrew's, New Brunswick ; and
Grua Liverpool steamer, Ingledove, Alexandria, &c. Off
port the Josephine, from St. J tgo de Cuba.
PORTSMOUTH, Nov. 16.—Wind W. S. W. squally. It
blew a heavy gale last night from S. S. E. to S. W., and
this morning veered to W. S. W. 4 P.M. More moderate.
The Pomona, Bunday, from London to Southampton,
w iich was on shore near Soutbsea Castle, went to pit ces
last night ; about half of cargo saved in a damaged state.
HARWICH, Nov. 16.—The DetianCe, Watts, from New-
castle to Plymouth, went on the Long Island this morning
during the gale, and filled ; crew saved. The Theodore,
Heinrick, Penelsen, trom Odessa to London, was assisted
into the harbour this morning very :leaky, with cargo
bested, and loss of anchors and cables.
RAMSGATE, Nov. 16.—The Ocean, Hog"art, for Gam-
bia, parted her anchors at Deal, and ran for this port ; has
been in contact with a vessel. The Enyo, late Slater,
from Dantzic, bound for Jersey, has been assisted in here
in a sinking state, and must discharge ; the master and two
of crew washed overboard.

SALCOMBE, Nov. 15.—Arrived cff, the Forrester,
Thompson, from Dalhousie.

PLYMOUTH, Nov. 16.—Wind S.E. to S.W., strong
gales —Arrived the Justitia, Tidman, Rio Janeiro ; a
small schooner, supposed to be the Comet, of liarnAlple,
is sunk inside the breakwater ; crew drowned.

FALMOUTH, NOV. 15.—Wind S. S. E. to S. W., strong
breezes and squally.—Arrived the Braganza (steamer),
Gibraltar, left on the sth inst., Cadiz 6th, Lisbon 9th,
and Vigo 11th, with boats stove and wheel damaled ;
Stephen, Henzell, Pictou ; Colonist, Jones, Wallace
Nova Scotia; Frederick, Newfoundland, with loss of
rudder, be un 1 to Fecamp ; Dauntless, Stewart, Taganrog,
Pat back tle Packet, Shirling, Cape of Good II ope.
GUERNSEY, Nov I•2.—Ssilcd, Joseph, Lowe, Havana.
BRISTOL, Nov. 16 —Arrived, the George Guildford,
Reid, from Quebec.
MILFORD, Nov. 15.—Arrived, the Friends, Richards,
from Cardiff, with loss of boats, bulwarks, sails, &c.,
bound to Waterford. Sailed, Betsy Black, Jones, River
Gambia. It blew a heavy gale from the eastward all last
night.
CLYDE, Nov. 14.—Sailed, the Jane, Suttie, for Deme-
rara ; Gleaner, Gothree, Savannah.
MONTROSE, Nov. 14.—1 t blew a hurricane last dglit
from S. E. to E. S. E., and continued throughout the day.
GFIMSBY, Nov. 15 —The sloop Perseverance, hound
to Lynn, is wrecked on the Rose sands—crew drowned.
LOWESTOFFE. Nov. 16.—1 t has blown a gate at S. W.
the whole of the morning. Two boats have been washed
ashore. One is marked " Hope, of Sunderland," also a
leaf of a cargo-boat, marked " Brig Hope, of Sunderland,
Charles Taylor."
ABERDEEN, Nov. 14.—The Rose, from Wick to Lon-
don, in attempting this harbour yesterday during a heavy
gale from the eastward, went on shore on the beach, but
does not appear to have received much damage.
bRIDLISGTON, Nov. 16.—1 t blew a strong gale yester-
day at N. W., and continues to-day at SS. E. About
fifty sail have brought up in' the Bay. The England's
Queen, Tulloch, is riding very heavily in the Bay, and
should the gale increase will probably drive on shore.
HULL., Nov. 16. —Wind W. S. W.—The Hope, Graham,
from Glasgow to London, has put in be -with loss of
foremast, &c. The Hand of Providenco,'from Stockton
to London, is on shore on the Trinity Sand, and is es -
pected to become a total wreck. 'lt blew very heavy at
S. S. E. this morning till 10 a.m., when it veered to the
westward and moderated.

MONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS.

CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK.

LIVERPOOL COTTON MAhIET, MONDAT.—We have no
change in prices to note, the market however is steady.
Sales 2,600 bags, chiefly American descriptions.
LIVERPOOL SHARE LIST. Nov. M.—Eastern Counties
dcbs., 4A ; Grand Junction, 212 ; Groat Western, 84i ;
Half-shares, 47/ 4S, 47a 48; Fifths, 81 1; Brighton
United Company, 27 ; South Western, 54k; North
Midland, 74 ; North Union, 734 ; Bank of Liverpool, 184.

A Lisbon mail has arrived by the Braganzs, sailed the
9th Nov., Vigo, 11th, Cadiz, Gth, and Gibraltar, sth.

We have received Rio Janeiro papers to the 3th of
September :

Exchange on London, 30 to 304 ; Stock, 72. Good
Coffee was still scarce, and the supplies unequal to the
demand. There was nothing late from Rio Grande or La
Piata. Freights were dull, no vessel should ever be sent
here from the United States, expecting freight.

We do not hear as yet of the arrival of the Presil nt
;rc,m New York, which we may expect hourly.

TIIE FUNDS.

The settling of the foreign Account went off well yes-
terday, without any mischief having occurred.
Consols opened this morning at the leaving off prices
of yesterday„ 89 to 89-ti- for Money, but rather better for
the Account, 89,1- I, with little doing as yet. Exchequer
Bills, par, 2 prem. ; Bank Stock, 1596 160 ; India
Stock, 239 240.
In the Foreign Market Spanish Active left off 23 I, at
present 241 ; Deferred 11:1 12 ; Passive, 51;4 ; Portu-
guese left off 36A, at present 361 Three per Cents.,
221- 231; Brazilian, 74 75 ; Colombian, 261 a ; Mexican,
291; 30 ; Belgian, 98 100 ; Chiiian, 58 60 ; DutchTwo-
and-a- Half per Cents. 50-,7- 51h ; Five per Cents. 974 98.
SII ARF.S—Great Western Railway, 173. 18!, prem. ; Lon-
don and Brighton, 13 124 dis. ; Blackwall, dis.;
Birmingham, 74 76 prem. ; Southampton, 52 53 per
share; Croydon, 111 a per share; Greenwich, 6 7 per
share ; Manchester and Birmingham. 13 11 dis.
PRICES OF SHARES:THIS DAY AT ONE.
RAILWAYS. Paid. Per Share,
Eastern Counties
Ditto Debentures
Great Western ..
Ditto Fifths
London and Brighton
11anchester and I3irmingham 35
North Midland
Ditto Shares
JOINT STOCK BANKS.
Union of London
ILA LF-PAST ONE.
In general towards Christmas we have a nualbcr of
failures among the commercial community. in consequence
of which the Bank, no doubt, aro taking precautions, and
putting on the screw, which causes money to be tight. In
the British Market it is at the rate of six to seven per
cent. Exchequer Bills, and on Reduocd from five to
six per een.7..
Consols are rather better than they were in the early
part of the morning, and at present may be quoted $t for
the Account, Mone
Bonds, 13 dis. ; Bank
89. Exchequer Stock, lls,
160. prem., 1
dis., par ; India
In the Foreign Market Spanish Active are a shade
better, 241, Deferred 12, Passive 51 ; Colombian, 914 ;
Mexican, 304 ; Portuguese not quite co good, 361 ;
Three per Cents. 23i ; Dutch Two-and-a-half per
Cents. 5 ; Five per Cents. 97%.
In the Share Market little doing. Great Wegern,
lower, 83, 82; Fifths, 8; London and Brighton, ',271 ;
Manchester and Birmingham, 23 ; Midland C,_,untits%
Sl:t\ah\r'ees.
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No arrival, as vet, of the Poesident from the United
States.

ylucial;vsia rd
completed w
THE VACANT GowN.—Several persons era
already spoken of for the vacant gown just thrown nff b 3
Mr. Alderman Harmer; among the number may bciTenr-
tioned the names of Mr. Esans (late sheriff.), Mr. .ennoy
Butterworth, Sir .1. Duke, and Sir J. Wilbains,but
inept shoula
Officers mho have claims for ad
one has yet publicly declared himself a candidate.
proper authorities, as we have reason
heard,
the fervent prayers of the nation h bte'licre. that should
and a Prince of
lose no time in bringing them undteorv3ll):Lnotice of the
in honour of such a joyful event.
We arc now enabled tonian:inounce that the period,
anders of Coast-Guard is
Wales be born, a very extensive promotion will take place
of service of Inspecting
as souk as the neees-
ill be mace now n
promulgation w
Acted at the Treasury. The regula-
slry forms are corn}
all Commanders now serving. and whose
extended from three to fi.Cv°ek years, and that te official
lion
perio‘dviloifTnlVio:iitiotment will therefore be extended to five
Ps
is another of the measures we have success-
fully has returned from Germany, having
advocated.—Naral and Military Gazette.
ith Herr Schumann the moat extensive ar-
rangements for the performance of the German opera in
the ensuing season. There is not an artiste of any repu-
tation who will not appear in succession.
like a ring ?" said a
,6 Why is the letter 1)
young lady to her accepted one day. The gentleman,
like the generality of his sex in such a situation, was as
dull as a hammer. " Because," added the lady, with a
very modest look at the picture at the other er.d of the
room, " because we can't be wed without it."
The Earl of Darlington, :M.P., has arrived at
Shrewsbury, on a visit to Lord
Berwick, from Scotland.
Allingham ll3use, near .

EVEN IN(; EDITION

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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS•

FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY.
(From the Morning Chronicle).
Dr. Dickenson, the incumbent of St. Ann's, Dublin,
and Chaplain to the Archbishop of Dublin, is to be the
new Irish Bishop. He owes this important preferment
solely to his merits. We believe that he is not only un-
connected with any members of the Government or
their supporters, but even unacquainted with any of
them, excepting those whose duties fix them in Dub-
lin. His claims are his talents and his virtues.
He is one of a class of clergymen uncommon
in England, and still more rare in Ireland, who
belong to no faction or clique. He has shown his
politics only by the support of every liberal measure,
and of every useful institution. He was an open and
strenuous advocate for the comprehensive system of
education introduced by the Education Board at its
commencement, when the success of that great expe-
riment seemed scarcely to be hoped, and when its de-
fenders were the objects of a High Church and Orange
persecution, even more general and more bitter than that
by:which they are now assailed. In the prominent situa-
tion to which heis now elevated, he will be a worthy as-
sociate to ArchbishopWhately and Archbishop Mur-
ray in the glorious conflict which they are waging for
the people of Ireland against the violent and the preju-
diced of both persuasions, and of both countries—
against the Exeters of England, and the M'Hales and
Beresfords of Ireland.
(Flop the Morning Post.)
The letter of Mr. Alderman Harmer to the elec-
tors of the ward of Farringdon Without, which appeared
in his Worship's own paper, the Dispatch, of Sunday,
and (the Dispatch being a journal we are not in the
habit of seeing) is transferred to our columns from those
of our daily Contemporaries, will be found an amusing
production. Mr. Harmer announces his intention to
withdraw from all civic dignities and functions, de-
scribing theth as a species of martyrdom which nothing
but tile purest and most magnanimous devotion to the
public weal could induce any men to undergo. Yit
WM* of our Radical Contemporaries affect to think
tart the best requital the electors of Farringdon
Ward can bestow upon the retreating martyr,
for his past sufferings, is to insist upon their
peelongation, to forbid retreat :and, by a fresh election,
to bind the victim to he stake at which he says he has
already endured so Mitch. This is unmerciful in the
highest deg:e. Surely the Alderman should be per-
mitted to escape from the thraldom in which he has so
long submitted to he held entirely against his own incli-
nation, from a determination merely to adhere to the
stern path of duty, and, at the call of his fellow-citizens,
to sacrifice himself to the public good. It is edifying to
sear Mr. Alderman Harmer talk of " the ridiculous
pageantry and the senseless ostentation inseparable from
the office of Lord Mayor."' It is a gratifying though
unexpected result of the contest in which Mr. Harmer
was recently defeated to have made him a philosopher.
(From the Morning Advertiser.)
We feel it necessary to recur again to the British
navy. We have used our best endeavours to ascertain
its condition ; and we say, with the utmost confidence,
that both in number of men and the number of ships,
so far as has been considered necessary for the pur-
poses for which a navy is now required, the naval
force of this country was never more complete—never
more efficient. The guns and ammunition, and all the
materiel of war, are of the best description—the pro-
visions of all sorts for the men cannot be excelled—and
the ships are altogether in the best order. The men
arc all expert, either as gunners or as sailors ; and a
great number of applicants have been rejected where
they were not so, although. having been employed in
the capacity of mere boatmen on rivers or canals, they
might not have been useless hands. The number of
men on board each vessel are quite equal to the occa-
sion ; and we should have no fear of our seventy-fours,
as now manned, being victorious over any one of 120
guns of any other nation, in the Mediterranean sea. It
must have been a matter of great anxiety to the Go-
vernment to determine on the extent of the crews of
our ships of war—to have enough for all the purposes
of a battle, and yet not to incumber them unneces-
sarily ; for let it be borne in mind that more men
than are absolutely required tend to increase the
carnage ; and that by the additional provisions
of meat, biscuits, and water, the ships become more
deeply laden, and less capable of manoeuvring with the
facility to be desired, and essential to success. In our
opinion, the Admiralty have come to a just conclusion
with respect to the number of men in the vessels at
sea, and we are borne out in that opinion by the most
experienced naval officers. Let, then, the voice of
calumny upon our, silenced, and we are sure
that
_to ever . not actuated by party
motives— ' ' . - adice, no doubt will
arise is efficient state, and no
friend eed mislead the
poblic
We
• - 'ng respecting the
state a. ; which we know
to be c. ,ery the same time ap-
peered an article in the : • ply to one inserted
is this journal, denying in tolo not only the truths, but
also the arguments contained in it. Neither our time
nor our space will allow us this morning to reply to it
at length ; suffice it to say for the present that our facts
are gathered partly from personal knowledge, and
partly from personal inquiry, and not in the slightest
degree from that ojicia/ knowledge, the accuracy and
authelatieity of which the Times chooses to undervalue.
We again assert, as we shall to-morrow endeavour to
prove, that the British navy was never in a higher con-
dision of perfection than at the present moment, whe-
ther as regards the strength of the vessels, the stores
on board of them, or the persons by whom they are
manned. In former times British vessels of war have
been more numerously manned ; more ships have also
been in commission than are now to be found in the
navy list in times of imminent and impending peril ;
but at no period in the history of our country has the
British Navy been so effective and so complete in all its
departments as it now is.
PROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY.
(From the Globe.)
We are for peace as much as any can be ; but we do
not. think peace most likely to be kept by calumniating
the cause of our country, and playing into the hands of
her enemies. As farther calumny will be attached to
any phrase that can give a handle for it, we beg to ex-
plain that by the enemies of our copntry we mean, not
the people of France, but the war party, defeated in
the Chambers. If a certain small number of writers, and
still smaller number of speakers here, are really anxious
to give renewed arrogance to that party—we can only
rejoice that their unpatriotic efforts find no encouraee-
ment from the great and all•commanding body of the
British public. We are for peace as much as any ; but
we can see no danger to peace in that quarter where
the select few of whom we have spoken profess to find
it. Lord Palmerston's note of the 2d inst., which is
deemed by that select few to indicate such mysterious
purposes, appears to us simply to indicate the same
clear grounds of decision, as to international law,
on which the Four Powers have proceeded through-
out. If Mehemet Ali has not placed himself in
the position of an aggressor on, and despoiler of, the
Turkish empire—incorporating its fleet with his own
is spite of the remonstrances of the whole of Europe—
if the Powers of Europe have no legitimate interest in
supporting Turkey against that aggression, and the at-
tempt to raise a new conquering Power in the East—
why then, their present policy has, of course, no justifi-
cation. But, if the above positions are admitted, then
Lord Palmerston's note is also justified. For that do-
cument does no more than point out plainly that the
Allies of Turkey have no motive, and no right, to dic-
tate the maintenance of Mehemet Ali, however host ;le
his course of action, in the possession of Egypt. We
look upon the note as a wholesome warning to Mehe-
met Ali ; and not as likely, unless he should be mis-
guided into reckless resistance, to " have any practical
bearing on events now in progress."
(From the Standard.)
The political aspect of Europe at this moment pre-
sents to reflecting men a subject of interesting conside-
retioo, altogether independent of itnreediate results.
Comparing the arguments and language now em-
ployed in the discussion of national interests, rights,
and duties, with what we have read of corresponding
political discussions not many years ago, it is im-
possible net to see that a great change has taken
place in the principle upon which nations arc go-
vetoed, both as regards their external and their
?eternal relations. We no more hear of the names of
princes, but of the -names of nations ; we are no
jonger, Pressed with reasons from the claims of indivi-
'hall or of families, but with arguments from the ad-
vantages which this or that country may be expected,
or- may expect to obtain. This, at. least, demonstrates
a vast aggrandisement of the popular influence ; and as
we can remark no distinction between Austria. Prussia,
and Russia, on the one hand, and England or France or;
the other, it seems to prove what, at first sight, looks like
a paradox—that popular influence is not necessarily
dependant upon popular institutions. In truth, " pub-
lic opinion" seems to be as prevailing at Vienna,
Berlin, or St. Petersburgh, as in London or Paris, We
can make the confession without at all detracting from
the praise of Representative Governmeti!, because it is
quite plain that it is our freedom which reflects the
blessing upon our neighbours : were there no free con-
stitutions in Europe, the history of the pa.!t. tells us
there would be no mitigation of the savage spirit of the
old despotisms. To resume, however. The present
condition of Europe exhibits really and in fact a com-
monwealth of nations, not, as in other times, a mere
Convention of individual princes, with here and there a
prince acting under the influence of his subjects, but the
majettitY. each exercising a personal will, or indulging
a personal caprice.

(From the Courier.)
The last note of Lord Pahnerston has, as we anti-
cipated, rekindled all that national feeling of exaspera-
tion in Paris which, with•the more moderate and en-
lightened portion of the people at least, had been so
greatly subdued since the auspicious advent of the new
Illioistry. We do not refer to the tone of the journals
alone in proof of this ill-ornened result, but to our own
private sources of information from quarters whose