The Sun.
London, England, 1812-05-19 00:00:00

season.

Era of a. letter from
~C7ptalti John Barr; of
the ship Sit- Ancliew Hammond; tor:? Jimaica,
dated May 14, 181.2, off lite St ire:--" We .re
so far ail wi-1l wits- the_Gangcs,
Towns, and Suspense, iin.'coinpany.;—The
Flora, —, forl3ristol, parted off Scilly. By the
arrival of Dinniless, you will know.of her leay.
ing vs on Ont. egth.of Atiril, 'in lat. F 5. 16tig. 55.
We. Sailed with 34 vess,ls, not oue cf vithich was
missing this chAy: ap inclosed list of most,
of 'ihe convoy, The Med,-ay, one of tliefLet,-elnd
the Barron,: a ruin] int? ship, Julnt,l to-d4y: --Sos-
pense, Shaw, Eli 2
hind, 3f.V,•111 gtOn, ALi.xatidtlr,] John Bail, Pacific,
Sueiliam, Aledvv.iy,
rough, ErriTrald, :.Prince Town, p ,
Ganges, Mint, William, :Oaks, Wiiii.(ll.,lcr, Sir An-.
drew H,rnrnund, PlanteryiCeres, awl
:.The Bridge!, Kenna:), ar&irtci at Liveto,'.l fro•i
b twrara, sailed Ist oft. in co.oßatty with `,'he Al-
bion and Russia COmpany, and pitted on the 4'h, '
in lat., 13. 9. long. 60. 9. On the spc,ke the
Olive Bianch, of London, fiorn Sr, Cro x. to
Gibialtar; in lat. n. 22. long. 53.28. out eleven
days: '

Tlitt 11,7cOVery, Pbelps, from Cork to Lisbon,
%Vas taken 12th March, by the Jun it, F:ench priva-
teer, of t(i grids, andc.,:rieti into Morlaix,
The Noittiern L.bcrties, atiived Lvt,rnool
from New York, spoke the Fanny,. Watson, from
St. Lucia •to Liverpool,- on the 11th inst. in lat. to.
42. long. 12. The &nab, Swaim', arrived at Li-
'Verpool from New York, spoke, in it. 47. lon,;
the Levi, Deatborne, from Neiv Yolk to Pc,rt4,
ihOULII, dis.tress, having lost her titd.ler.

ItilflV VIES. 0 E DE, N C E„.
TAKEN EEFORE THE COMMITTEE OF TIIE WHOLE

HOUSE, TO WHOM IT -WAS HY:Xi:AIRED, TO CONSI-

DElt OF THE SEVE4AL UTICA' riAvk

EEEN gRESENTED TO THE HOUSE: CF COMMONS,

l THIS SESSION OF PAIILIAM.ENT, AGAINST THE

ORDERS IN COUNCIL.

Mercurij, 29° die Avrilis, 18.12.
THOMAS 13ABIN.GTON, &Ai. in 'thp Chair.

Mr. T. ATv.vooD called and exanzined.
[Conti;wed from,our Paper of:yesterd.iy.]

Did you resi,le at Binninglrani. in the winter of
1.890 and 1801: did.
, Po you recollect the distress that existed at" that
period do.
Was it not .very great ?=-11: I recollea
wheat might be at 15s. a bushel ; but_ the Mecha-
nics bad then a good trade, if
,my'rnernory serves
me, and that enabled them to bear.. up 'against their
affliaions ; they had also a..very bad. system of pa-
rochial. apt-lager-nem., Which, if I recollect rigor} 00.-
Casioned a great number of paupers at, tbat dine :
since that •periodthe system of parochial management
in Birmingham has been prefeaed to a very extraor-
dinary degree, superior to any other large town in
the United Kingdom.
What is the ',rice of wheat now in Birmingham
—The price r:f wheat now in Birmingham is I think.
155. or 18s: a bushel.
From the causes which have been mentioned, do
you not know that the sufferings of Alia poor in•
rningham were greater in that winter than they are
now ?—I really cannot well recollea, frit'. I was but
a young man in the year ,1801 but I do believe
.that the sufferings of the poor were not by"- any
means then as great as they are now, however the
parochi4l levies might go by great inisManage-
asent, greatei symptoms of distress, for arty thing I
know.

Have not the manafanurers at Birrninizharn ma-
terially increased since the year 1 £OB ?--The popu-
htion of Birmingbard has increased considerably
stice the year 1800. E I really cannot, speak to any
increase in the manufaaurers,s sinCe the year 1808 ;
I J:cow • that many manufddurers have .di,:charged
many of the Workmen, and whexe dose miserable
men ha,ve found their ernp;oy and their bread
really cannot say.
Do not you k....:wthat a, considerable part of the
pods that were exported to America before these
Interruptions of the trade with America, used to be
re-exported from America to South America and
the Ares: Indies ?—I hate understood, that a cer-

tain proportion, but what proportion I wally cannot

sey, was exported' from the United States to the
East Indies and to_ South Ain-erice and different
countries ; I really do not know the exaent, should
consider 'probably about one-fifth.
- What then prevents :the supply of the fifth part,
at leastdirealy, to those countries I—Nothing at all
• but the want of a door of opening to those countries,
Which I conceive to be principally the
.East Indies
and China. •
-. What prevents the ,export of British maptifac-
tUrers to Spanish Ainerica, for instance, 'and the
Brazils ?•—I rather think that the merchants of Eng-
laecl have not 49ite those facilities to Spanish Ame-
rica that the Americans have, but if they have, I
conceive there is nothing to p-event the export of
those goods from England taking place, eellieh used
to take pllce through the United States of America
with additional advantage.
Have you any recollection of the American Em-
bargo'l—f recollea it well.
Hid it any influence unfavourable to the trade of
Birmingham ?--It threw the .manufaurers of Bir-
mingham into a state of, very great. distress for a
few months, but that distress was supported as the
present distresses have been, and was relieved by the
opening of the intercoese. •
Do you. recullea thatlhe American Embargo
preceded the Orders in Council how then. dO'you
ascribe the whole iLf this distress to the Orders in
Council ?—I really do not ascribe the whole of our
distresses to the Orders,
_in Council, .1 ascribe it • to
the war in which we are engaged, but I also ascribe
it in a very great degree to the Orders in Council.,
j wish tetadt.l, that lam not aware that the Ameri--
cur Embargo did precede ~COrders in Council ; the
first, Order in pouncil, . tho Ugh I believe it does not
pass under that name, was: the blockade of the Elbe
and the Weser on the northern coast of France, in
1 su6, and that was the origin of our distiesses.
[The Witness was clireEted to Withdraw.
[The witness was again ealfectin, when be ad-
dressed the Chairman as follows ;] .
I should wish to explain. When I say that-the
exports of the manufatturers of Birmingham to the
United States•ot America amounted to 800,0001. or
1.,000,0001. that • the exports of the manufacturing
distrias round Birmingham du not come under my.
observation in such a way as for me to be compe-.
tent to speak to them; I know that. there are mer-
chants in all the towns that send-out goods to the
United States of America, who do not come under
tuy observation ; and ..that there are faaors who
send goods to the out-ports,
_from whence they are
forwarded to the United States of America so
that I have reason to belieie that the exportation
o.f mannludured articles from the distria round
L reraingham is very greatindeed, but can 'have
no principle of judgment to know to'What it may.
amount.

[The witness was direAcd to withdraw.

Witrli-ss was.ag:iin called in.]
Ydu stated that the ariicl-s exported to Ainerica,
were those, the value of which chiefly or wholly of
the workmanship, and not of the taw material ?
I did.

Do you- mean-to apply that desdription to the ma-
nufaaure of nails, which' you state to be so -itu-
pommt ?--I do, that is ahnon all labour.
And with respect to nails stamped lay machinery
•--There are no nails ruanufaCtured by machinery
sent at .present from England to the United States of
Arnerica,;.

In your situation of High Bailiff of Birmingham,
nd as a banker and a trader in Birtningliam, are
you personally acquainted %s ail the situation of the
labouring mechanics in Birinighath and, thu neigh-
bo. (hood bt it ?---I am.•
Yit a state of distress or otherwise i—lt is a

54,;, of dreaafGl Bistress ; I speak, tile from my
pwn absolute knowlt-dge, acid from no motive im•
der fizavvn but a desire to-relieve therm,

Di you believe or .noti that this distresS arises
from
_the stoppage of the'trade•to America do
that the greater F7t of this distress does
arise f:orn the stplirage of the.trarie to America.

Igo you know that the master manntaCfurers have
enaphiyed a gage port-ion of their capital for the
purpose olkeeping the labouring ouanufaLlurers to
vork longer than it has been been profitable for
them so to dO ?—I dg know, that they have exhaust-
ed the whole of their capital by keeping on with
their. works, • and-that there is not a singe trade in
13irmingham of any description, not even the ma-
nufa3ure of small arms, by which any profit can be
made at this day. •
Are you able togive any opinion of the length of
time this sort of empty will continue, unless the in-
tercourse with America is opened ?—I think itwould
not continue twelve months longer
.without con-
vulsions too dreadful- for my apprehnsion.
What has been the condo& of the labouring ma-
nufaaurers durireY the last -I months ? —The labour-
ing mechanics of Birmingham, anti I believe, of the
whole of -the distria..„ have been looking for the
opening of the American intercourse, and have re-
lied upon it, under the hope that upon the expira-
tion of the restrialions, if I may speak of them, t!-e
difficulties with the United -States of America would
be made op; that has Supported them.
Has their conduit been orderly and patient ?
It has been exceedingly orderly till within this
fortnight.
Among the numerous articles of export to the
[Toiled ;States, can you state. whether razors are
articles of export from Birmingham to the United
States )-s-I believe, there is no such manufacture in
Birmingham; •
• Car, you 'state what other places there are :n the
neighbourhood of Biruinghaca, which manufaClure
those articles which are sent to Americai—Wolver-
hanipton, Bilsion, Walsall, Wednesbury, and many
other towns and villages in that populouS district
have been in the habit of manutafturing goods for
the United States of America; the returns of the
merchants and manufacturers oC those towns and
village:; have not come under my cognizance, they
have passed- through the banks in the different
towns, for there are hariks in almost, all those towns
and village,l, and I have not opportunities 'of exa-
;mini og them.
In the account you give of the supposition of the
expo,. to America being from gonoool, so
1,000;0001. you- do not intend to include the ex-
port from those different places ?—Not the whole
of them.

Those you have. mentioned are towns that are
within fourteen or fifteen miles of Birmingham ?-7-
They are.
Are-there any other towns in distant parts of the
country in which these manufaftres are carried on ?
—There we nails made in Derbyshire and Glou-
cestershire, but not to auy grearextent there are
also of course many made in Sheffield ;' I know no
other distrid but- Shtftield, that manufaCtures itl
any considerable extent, unless it be London, which
I believe
.does, the general manuf4tures of Bir-
mingham.and.its neighbourhood.
Do you know what proportion the Sheffield tm-
nufaeture bears to that of Birmingham and its netli-
bourhood ?—I have no other means but the popuk-
lion : I should consider the population of Sheffield
being one half the population of Birmingham, that
the unanufaautes are of one half the value ; but
the population round Sheffield I do not consider as
near so important as the neighbourhood of Birming-
ham, or fifteen miles round Birmingham ; towards
Wolverhainptou it is, I r&ght 'almost. say,' a conti-
nipl street.

. Did not you state, tbat the iron trade began to
fall off seven years ago ?---The iron trade ii the
smelting of pig ►ron, was exceedingly profitable se-.
ven rears ago ;, the tnanuladure of iron was also
profitable, it' would pay welt for the employment of
,capital and ifiduitry ; 'btu within the last three years,
all men Of. capital and prudence, I ought not to say
all, tut ce.rtainly'almost all the men of capital and
prudence, have left the iron trade, have gone out of
it, and my own family-among the rest, because they
found that there was a loss upon it, and that no hu-
man ingenuity or influs!ry could create a profit.
What do you designate as the iron trode ?—The
manufaaure of pig iron into 'the different articles of
nterc•h>:ndize of wtougitt iron.

You also state, that7the/ export of steel goods to
America, had diminished before the last war ?—Not
the export of steel goods ; steel
,itself was the article
which' I alluded to, that is manufactured from
Swedidi iron ; and I understand within these three
or four years, that in New York and Baltimore there
are furnaces erected capable of furnishing sufficient
for the supply of the United States,. and that 'they
obtain their iron as we do, from Sweden.

How long has that prevailed ?—I have understood
for theSe three or . fon r yea's
What. is. done ,in America with the steel that is
mannfadured there ?•-•=--It is worked up into all- man-
her of steel or:ides, into swords., for instance,. bayo-
nets, and I 'believe edged tools of all descripiioll3, but
principally arms, I think. • .
Do not you ,understand that the mandaEtures of
,America are gradually spreading and improving ?
Certainly T have heard that they are extending ra-
pidly, and I cannot • possibly doubt that if the Non-.
intercourse Ad is 'continued or enforced, tOl* it can
only be continued by force, it must create manufac-
tures there, which, when' once created in. America,
will continue. so long as the American Government
chnses to prate& them ; it it stall once withdraw its
proteEtion from them, I have no deubt the British
manufaatnes will soon superSede them ; bin I liave
no doubt that when they have once erected manu.-
faelories, and have obtained mechanicss, it will be-
come a part of their policy to prevent the importa;
tion of British manufactures.- .
You state, that there is a stock of Birmingham
goods at Liverpool, to the amount of half a million
Stelling ?—I did state it, but very loosely, for I
_have
no calcelation to prove it by.
What are they kept at Liverpool for :?—They
wait to be shipped to America.
Thry cannot be shipped until the • intercourse is
opened, ?—They would be shipped imnird!ately on
the repeal of the Orders in Council.

Fro be continued.]

BUBLf , M'Ay U.

NON: 2ARON -AIcCLELLAND AND DIR. MOOSE

In this vase, the Lord' Chancellor: Master of the
Rolls, the twelve Judges, and the •Ric,,ht Hon. and
Han. the Bnclirrs of the Hon: Society of King's
Inns, met at one O'clock on the_ t2th inst„ in enter
to investigate the propriety of, Mr. Moore's
dud, in having published a letter, addressed to the.
Irish Bar, in the Dublin Evening Post of the rBlll
nit. fn which letter he (Mr. Moore) cliarges the
Hon. Baron M'Clelland with having ;toted unconsti-
tutionally to. a Jury.of the County of Tyrone, on the
trial of a Traverser, at the last Asiiz•,-S of om3gh
and also with having threatentd to .cetr.rni
.hiM
(Mr. Moore) to the dock.
'e received (rota a Gentleman of veracity the
following information, which, we trust, there i's PO
impropriety in publishing—the-Hon. Benchers,
not being brand, like Grand Juttrs, by an oath. of
secrecy : •

That the Meeting consumed font hours in de-
baiing on the propriety of passing two Resolt;tions :

Ist, 'Whether Mr. Mpore should not be dis-
barred )

This question was negatived by a small ma-
jority ! '
And. 2dly, Whether Mr. Moore should not be
severely censured for the publication of his letter in
The Dublin
.Evening Post?
This Resolution was adopted, and Mr. Moore was
ordered to. attend, when the sentence' of censure
was pronounced by the Chancellor, and ordered to
be read on the first day. of.tiext Term, in each of the
Four Cour,s.--(Dublin Evening Post.)

The public attenrion has of late been so much
occupied, that we should riot have been surprised
had the Lottery lost its a!traction: This has not,
however, been the case. The little
,Lottery is daily
becoming less ; which is easily accounted for when
we .see that' with only 8,000 eTtckets, there' are
Pries` of 20,0001., 10,0001., 5,0001., ".a,000l„
2,0001., 1,0001.,-&c.

The Snake brig, CApt..Berford, arrived at Ply-
mouth last Thursday from the Cape of Good Hope,
in n)ne weeks ; left there. his Majesty's ships Lion,
Nisus, and President; touched at Ascension fin
Turtle, and found thetu in great pjenty:

PASSENGERS PER SNAKE.—LiCUtetlailtE /I,l‘Quarie and
Kirkland, of his Majesty's 86th rethrient ; Stones,.
purser of. his Majesty's 'late ship Nereide ; Mrs. Courter.
and family-; Mrs.' AVNiced and child ; Mr. Thomas
Paymaster, of the 65th regiment and family ;
phties, Esq.
His Majesty's 86th regiment salted for Madras on the 9th
of January last, 'Tom the lee of Mauritius.

;The VeitrY of St. Mary-le-bonne, we understand
from a 'friend; has presented an Addiess to the
Printe Regent, through the Secretary of State, on
the atrocious murder of the Rigtit Honourable Spen-
:er Percevar; and' we believe it is to the follewing
a etfe, viz.. • • •

To his Royal HiglineFi the Prince of Wales, lie-
,:gent,of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
-Ireland.

The humble, dutiful, and unanimous Address 'of.
the Ministers, Church Wardens, and Vestrymen of
the Parish of Saint Mary-le-bonne.- '
We, the Mini-der, Church Wardens, and Ves7.
trymen of the Parish ur St. Mary-le-honne,.:ln the
County of Middlesex, in.tieStry, assembled, deeply
impressed with horror and detestation of the, moat
atrocious aft of assassination committed on the per-
son of the Right Honourable Spencer Perceval, so
eminent for his.public and private virtdes, ht:g !ewe,
with profound respea, at this mornerztous crisis, to
express to your Royal Highness our indignation.and
heartfelt regret.

We trust that the same sentiment's 'with which
We are animated will excite the efforts of all his Ma-
jesty's dutiful .and; loyal subje&s throughout the
United Kingdom, 'to the due maintenance of the
laws, and of the happy Government under which
the goodness of Providence has placed us. '
MIDDLESEX SHSSIONS.--4 vile offender, Michael
Odell; late footman to a Gentleman of fortune,
was indicted for sending threatening letters, to„the
above Gentleman, to extort money, under pretence
of charging him with unnatural habi:s. The fol-
lowing is the substance of the case, as proved in
evidence:—The prisoner is the person who, in con-
sequence of his riotous condu6t at the .Levee at
Carlton House, a few, wtllks since, which appeared
in the Papers at the time, was discharged by his
Master, who 'deduded from his wages some articles
of "dress which had been destroyed by his improper
conded. In a few days after the prpsecutor receiv-
ed a letter from the prisoner, demanding money, in
ambiguous terms ; and on this being unnoticed, the
prisoner sent another letter, in which he threatened
to charge the prosecutor with unnatural propensities,
on his refusal to advance a sum of. money. The
prosecutor applied to the Police, and the 'prisoner
was secured by the- Foys. Guilty.—Mr. MAIN-.
WAIIING, after animadver tieg On the atrocious con--
duet of the prisoner, in attempting so foul a stain on
a'Gentleman of charaaer uncontaminated, sentenced
him to seven years tiansporteeion.
A most.lamentab!e accident' happened la;t week
in a coal (lane at Orrell, near Upholland, an the
neighbourhood of Liverpool. Notice had been
given .to the 'workmen bleloriging to the piteehat a
certain particular L'yel •was suppoeel to: be filled
with inflawanableegas, and th'ey were of course di-
reded -not to approach the pliice with a. light or arty
other substance capable ol.co:lirounicaling
Notwithstanding this warning, one of, the rneo,e
who bait left his were in the forbidden place, had
the rashiress to attempt to recover than;,, and ac-
tually entered it with a caliche. A tretnendoes ex-
plo•iion iestantly took., place, in. consequence' ref
which every person in that part of the Mitre was
invnedietely suffocated. We are concerned to say,
that nine men and one woman tell a sacrifice tOthis
thoughtless temerity, who were all taken ovt deade
after the proper precautiens had been used. The
men all belonged to the Leyland' and Orritskirk Lo-
cal Militia, and. were MOS( of them very stout and
able young men. The explosion. was so violent,
thiAt it shook the windows of the houses of'O'ne of
the neighbouring villages.

The bfikers in the Northern • Counties hare re-
ceived, during last we,7,l;', anonymous letters threat-
ening their lives and menacing their property with
destruBion.

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•
RETURN OF WIItAT IN MARK-LANE,
By Messrs. CHILD and MALP A S, Meal Weigtieti,
Including only from May 4, to. ltlay 9.
Agreeably to the Ad.
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17 Quarters at 1496. od i 461 -- at i3os od
7 at tos ori ' 1904- at 128 i
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at 144 S ad 1 Iyo at I2iS
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-- at 140 s cd 25 ------ 12,s ad •
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al 1386. ed I. 604 at 1205 Cd
..at i.37s od 117 at figs ott
-at 136$ od • I 402 -- at i 166 o 1
at 1356 00 too at nos
-- at 134 s od 316
—at 13is od 154
—, at 13zs c.d. I 113
And r Quarter at 963. per Quarter.
Total 8969 Quarters.—Average 1295.
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