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London, England, 1812-06-26 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Titußsrur;

The 'Newfoundland Spirits Bill, went through a
Committee, the report of which was ordered to be
received to-morrow.
The Loan Bill was reada third time and passed.
The report, of the Committee - of Ways. and
Means, was brought up and agreed to.
. On thenlotion of Mr. ROSE, it was ordered that
the House should to-morrow resolve itself into a
Committee on the Free Port Acts.
, Mr. ROSE obtained leave to bring hi a Bill fear
bringing forward Returns relative to the expellee
of maintaining the Poor in .England,
The Report of the West India :bicenses Bill;
was brought up and'agreed to, and the Bill or-
dered to be engrossed., and read a third .time to-
morrow.
The Reports of the Copper Duties, and South-
ern Whale Fishery Bills, were brought up and
agreed to, and the Bills ordered to be read a third
time to-morrow.
The Bahama Trade Bill was read a third tin*
and passed.
The Postage Bill went-through a Committee,
the report of which was ordered to be received
to-morrow.
The report of the Sugar Distillery Bill' was
brought up and agreed to, and the Bill ordered to
be read a third time to-morrow.
Sir W. SCOTT spoke, but we could not distinctly
hear him from the low time in which he .spoic.e.—
We understood him to ask for, and to obtain
leave' to bring in the Bill respecting the .Eccle
siastical Courts, which he had engaged to pre-
pare.• This. Bill, as it materially affected the laws
as they at present stood, he wished to have the
fullest consideration of the House. He therefore
only wished to bring it in, that it might he read
a first time and printed in the course-of the pre-
sent session.
The Linen Bounty Bill was committed, and the
Report ordered to be received to-morrow.
The c;HANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, moved
the second reading of the Local Token till. He
stated it to be, his intention to move, in the Com-
mittee, to allow the Tokens at present in .cireu-
lotion to continue to pass for a :given tune.
'With %respect to the Copper Tokens; we under-
stood him to say it did not appear necessary. to
call them in. The Bill was then read a second
time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow.

AMERICAi SEAMEN.-
Mi. ROBINSON (though the Hon. Baronet was
not in his place, who had brought forward tho
subject to which he was about to •call the atten-
tion of the HouSe), thought it his duty to state
what he had to offer. As soon asthe Honourable
Baronet had mentioned the case of an American
seaman,'who it was said had been impressed, he
(Mr. Robinson)•had made it his business to in-
quire how. the fact stood,, and ever since had at-
tended in the House, -for the purpose- ,of making
such obiervationi as' to him the case appeared to
call for, in the presence of the Hon. Baronet.
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This, however, the Hon. Baronet had not given
him an,opportunity of doing ; and as be had made
no further observations on the subject, he (Mr.
Robinson) took it for granted that he meant to
say.nothing more about it ;' but content with
having mentioned the circumstance, the ITon.
Baronet was willing to leave the business alto-
gether to the Admiralty. -On Monday last, bow-
- ever, he (Mr. Robinson) understood that the Hon.
Baronet had mentioned the circumstance again.
He (Mr. Robinson) had been in the House early
in the evening, waiting to reply to any thing
that might have been said on it, but nothing of
the. kind' having been spoken of, he (Mr. R.)
as the public business was pretty far advanced,
had no idea that it would then be alluded to,
and had therefore left. the House. "He understood
the case to have been formerly 'stated Iby the Ho-
nourable- Baronet as follows :—That an American
seaman had been "impressed, and was now on
board the Enterprize. On inquiry, he (Mr. R.)
had found that it was true that a person had been
impressed in the course of the last month, of the
• same of John WilliaMson, who, at the time of
his being impressed, had stated himself to be an
' American Citizen, and who had subsequently ap-
, plied to the American Consul to he released, on
the the ground of being an American 'seaman.
On inquiry, however, it had turned out,` that the
man, though when seized had stated himself to
have been an American seaman, and-to have been'.
discharged, was recognised by one of the gang as
having deserted from the service of this country,
about two months before, when ashore—.and.
this had been admitted by the man himself. He '
could farther state, on the general principle, that
nothing was so little desired as American seamen,
whether they were pressed or not ; as having such
persons was likely to lead to some inconveniende
and embarrassment : and whenever application
was made by a person impressed for his discharge,
on the ground of his being an American seainar,
if his statement on investigation proved to be cor-
rect, he was immediately discharged.
Mr. CHOKER stated himself to have been also
ready to give a satisfactory answer on this subject.
He had but just left the House, and was Only in
the lobby at the time the Hon. Baronet adverted
to it on Monday.
The CHANCELLOR of the_ EXCHEQUER moved,
that the House should go into a Committee on
the Excise Bill. He also gave notice, that it-
was his intention (to-morrow) to proposea Duty
on Stone-ware Biattles, &c. as otherwise the Gla4s

Duties would he heavily felt by the mariufactuters,
&c. The Bit Lien %.etit 'through a Committee,
th:,report of which W6S ordered to tie received to-
morrow. . . •
The'Exchequer Bills • Aids Bill was read a se-

cowl time, ant committed for ta-morrow.
The' Assesed Taxes Bill, after a few observa-
tions from •Alr., VKeseern and Sir 31; Wood,. went
through a- 09r2uUittee, the report of which was
ordered to he received to-morrow.
The finish Stamp Ditties Bill went • through a
Committee, the report of which was ordered to be
received to-marow. •
The Unlawfur.Ozath Bill, and the Riots Bill
were read a third time and passed...
The Irish Population Bill went through
Committee. The report was -received, .and or-
dered to. be taken into fuither cousideiatiOn oa
Monday;
Returns of the prisoners .of , war. rat present in
this country , distinguishing soldiers from sailors,
as far as the same was pi acticable, were ordered
to-he laid before the House... •
• LINCOLN PRISON.

On the motion or Sir- SANUEL ROMILLY, the
Petition of Mr.
,Houldem, complaining of 'the
Jailor of Lincoln Jail, was read by the Clerk.
Sir S. ROMILLY then called the attention .of the
• 'louse to the subject. He went at length 'into:
the allegations contained in the petition, the sub.-
. stance of which is already before the public. .He
commented -with.warmth on the treatment the
prisoner had 6:pet-kneed, and on the injustice of
the Jailor it') confining him as he had been con-
fined, for eleven days and nights. This, it-was
to be observed,.Was not ,tohave been the period
of his confinment ; but his release, at the ekpira-
tiOrydif that time, was in consequence of an event.
set-forth in the Petition. It was not till the re-
' ports in
_the newspapers of what passed in. that
House, on another Petition, had reached Lincoln,
• that the present-Petitioner was. released from so-
lithry confinement. It was impossible to con-
' template this circumstance, without, feeling the'
great good which, resulted from their discussions
beii~ _public. He then took •oceasion to speak of
the :misconduct cif Jailors, and of the connivance
of Magistrates in. certain instances, eOmmented
on -the resolutions lately come :to by the Magis-
trates of 'Lincoln:. as being of a nature lather ex-
traordinary,, and. concluded-by moVing for the ap-
pointment of a Select CommiAee, to: inquire into,
and report2to the House, what has been, .a; 3.d
the Condition and treatment of the prisoners COIL-
--1,71-iri.Lincoln Jail, and also to inquire into. he
.conduct ;In management of the said prison.
CHAPMAN said; the Honeurahle and Learn-
ed Gentleman did'-not know on. what grounds the
Petitioner.had been, confined, had been con-
fined on the.acensation of another debtor then in
slthe jail. • He-pro.ceeded ,at some length in reply.
to the last -speaker. He maintained that the Hon.
and .1.2-earned Gentleman had been misinformed in
a -variety of 'instances. The place in which the
-Petitioner had been confined, was not what it had
been-said to be. It !nut a fire-plaee, and was in
.other respects different. It was true the Peti-
_ tioner had been-deprived of the rneanS Of convers-
ing with other prisoners, but this was because he
happened to be the only refractory debtor in the
• jail. He believed the petition would never-have,
been forwarded to the HonotiiE!.ble and Learned
.Gentleman, but through the solicitations of an-
other person = confined in the same place, whose
name he wouldnot mention.
Lord CASTLEREAGH expressed hiS happiness
that the motion was brought iorwar'in its pre-
sent forth. He thought it improper to encourage
individvals to make complaints directly to Mrlia-
.ment; when an intermediate means of redress was
presented. He. should not oppose going into the
Committee, hilt wished all further discussion was •
abstained from until. the. Committee was .ap-
pointed. . . .
Mr. ELLISON defended the conduct of the Magis-
tracy of the County of Lincoln, and was Of opinion
the observations were calculated to produce evil'
„eousetptences,, by bringing the
.ilagistracy of the
.Country into contempt.
• -Mr. BROUGHAM agreed with.:, his- llon.‘and
s, Learned: Friend in the propriety of the nio-
• tion. He -thfended the previous statements made
-1.1-y his' ions and Learned Friend, as founded'
on fact.

Sir F. Bunpr.vr made .a few remarks on the
• state of gaols throughout the kingdom; deprecttt,-
. ed the present mode of solitary confinement, al-
luded.to the. Report of the Commissioners of
In-
quiry int.O.the State of Cold-bath-fields Prison,
whose poWers were not sufficient for the purpose
which was to he. effected. He trusted, that on
• an other occasion. minute inquiry would be• made
into the ,state of'Liueoln ciaol. •
Str.k3v LF.Yriv.REagreed with the,ll -, Oneur
able Baronet„ that the system of solitary cOnfine-
•ment Was one which could not be too Irighly.cen-
*tired. ge tho9..ght that a. Surgeon shonld attend
.the prisoners thus.confined; _to see. that theTunish-
inent had not an effeet on their Millds. lie de-
fended the conduct of the Contmittee appointed
• to inqUire into the state of Cold-ha• tiaL,fields!Priso.l.l,
contending • that they •had fulfilled the pswers
with which theywere invested.
ZNlr. WILBEIIEVcE 'coincided in Opinion with
• , -
the last Speaker.
Sir S. Roemn.v replied; and stated Oral there
was n 6 intermediate meanS,Olpreferriilg,,the com-
plaint, as it was against the. existiugl7;lagistracy,
and there was no useln,preferriw; a coinplaint to,
etny men against themselves. He Olutied to the
severity of the sentences pronotinced at Quarter
fieSsions. At the same time-fie was disposed to
give credit to the Magistrates, who in general
were honourable men. But he had known that
on ,several occaslaus the sentences were too se-
vere, he. should make the system' the ground of a
motion the nekt.Sesgion. _
The Soi,ter•Toir-GENERAL warmly defended the
• Magistrates from the general charges, which,
his Honourable and Learned Friend made .against
• the.M. . .

•SirSAMLIEL RoNTILLT warmly disc,laitued any
iutcntion of detracting froth the general (-hark-
ter of .Thlgistratel, whom-on .the Contrary he had
nientionnii,vith,the highest honour.
'Jr , C. •W'2§ll.*N' vslag of opinion, that the
gteatest publicity ought to be. given to the pro-
ceedings of Courts of Justice of every descrip-
tion.

Mr. 1-1. Sumwr.R declared, that the imprfssion.
of the '.l-lod. Baronet's speech on the ;Country
must be to loWefthe characte.; of the Magistrates,
andjo calumniate the tribunal. of the 9uarter Ses-
sions. To the exertions of the Magistrates;
anent xi'AS indebted ...for carrying their measures
into effect; they Jcept in motion the wheel. to
which thelegislature gave the fiist'impulse.
Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) decNred, that fnhis
opinion, the Hon. and Learned Mover
.had 'ntit
'said one word to cOntraveue•the
.highest opinioni.
of the Magistrate's of the country. Adverting
.to
the question_ of long imprisonments, he:expressed
his opinion that it might be found necessary to
propose a Billin the Legislature, to prevent Ma-
gistrate's at Quarter Sessions, from :sentencing to
iMprisOnment beyond a certain period.
Sir C. NORDATTNa allowed that Magistrates
ought to be supported when they did their duty ;
but denied that there was any necessity oh the
present o.ecasion for 'the Watch-word which had
been so 'loudly uttered by. the, Honourable, and
Learned Gentleman opposite (the Solicitor-Ge-
neral.)

The motion was then agreed to ; as A.Va.5-also_ a
list of 21 Gentlemen to form the Committee pro-
poised by Sir S.ltomilly.
On its being moved to add the Solicitor,Gene-.
ral to the Committee, ..
Sir S. Romml.Y opposed the motion, on the
ground that it was quite uhustial to interfere with
the -Mover Qt. a Committee in the arrangement of
that Committee, especially when, as in the pre-
sent instance, it was. .evident •that lie lid exhi-
bited the greatest impartiality in the selection of
the, Members.. • .
Atthe instance of the Solicitor-General, who
pleaded such a pre-engagement of his time as
must prevent, his ,attendance on the Committee,
the motion WAS withdrawn.
Lord CASTLEREAGH conceived that_ in the
Committee, as constituted-on :lie motion of the
Honourable and Learned Gentleman, theze were.
not enough. ocCounttly Gentlemen. He moved
to substitute the name of LYGON: for thit
of Mr. W. Pole.
• Sir SAMUEL 110:4'1,4Y remonstrated against:this
change, as lie deemed Mr.. W. Pole to be ..peu-
liarlY qualified for: the investigation. A
took place : - .

For Mr;•Lygon?s.Oppoiptthent .
Against it

Majority

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(Strangers were not.re-adinitp!sl into the gal-
lery for near an hour, during. which period, we
understand, -a great deal of discussion took place
with respect to the names-of several other Mem-
bers whom: it, proposed to add to the\Co,m-
mittec. We believe
.that ilTr. H,. Sumner, Mr:
,W. Bootle, and Mr. Hobhouse, were eventually
added'to
Mr.Howon•rn mo-,-cd for an account of all the
loans raised by the East India. Company or their
Pk-esidencies, from the first of May, 1798, to the
1.41 th of May, 1808, distinguishing those parts
which were paid off from those which were .com-
muted. for drafts on England, and those which
were still outstanding. .
After a few words from Mr. Wmus, the mo-
tion was agreed to.
LusnizwroN brought up the Report of
the Committee of Supply ; the several resolu,
tionsof which were agreed to, until they Came
to that which granted the slim of 78,344/. as
arrears on the per ventage of Mr. Palmer ; upon
'which - ,

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Mr..tAims contended, that if Mr. Palmer.lad
any claim, to the sum as a matter of right, that
Claim-would he decided in the• Courts of LaW.—
The fact; however, was, that he had failed to-es-
tablish it. His right Was forfeited by the breach
of the' terms
,of his agreement. Ile then went
into various statements to spew that Mr/Pahner
had- already received out of the revenue of the
Post-office, not less than 80,0001. The remu-
neration which .he.(Mr. Banks) thought once of
prOposing for public servants of the highest or-
der,
.did not 'exceed that amount ; and the Mili-
tary and Naval .services of Lord Wellington and
_Lord N:eso.twere not rewarded to such 'an ex-,
tent.. Even persons w',lothought differently from
him-on tlie..principle, would,- he expected, agree
at least in'this, that the present demand was ex-
travagant, and such as no person actin; on the
part"of the Ptiblic 'WOuld 'give hiS" assent to. In
the discharge of his public duty he should endea-
vour to defend the revenue against it. •
The CHANCELLOR of the ExttrEQuEai declared,
that in official- consistency and honour; he should'
follOw the steps of Mr. Perceval, anti give his
sanction; as be had done, to the services of Mr..
Palmer ; but on the subject of'the present grant,
he felt himself justified iu.opposiug it in-las Mai-.
vidnal capaCity. .
Mr. W. SYtITH supported the grant,- at tha
same time he did notAtesii.ate to. say, that Mr.
Palmer had 'acted incorrectly. Ile denied' that
:there was any application in the services of Lords
'Nels'ou *and. Wellington ; of. pitch services •as
theirs, there was- nn .pecuniary mt.asure, and-
-0.1.4 shttilir, in fact, be considered as •their bwn
rcwara.

r.}-0,.c is EIJI; thollat 11Cthil* could be
plaintr than the justice of Mr,Palinerssciaims. He
recollected that the opinions of Sir Jame; Mans-
field, Sik• VitFkr,y Gibbs, and others,' declared the
claim tO be such as would hold good in the case
of but Government itself being one
of the partics, the demand was defeated by a tech-
nical advantage. He maintained that no-miscon-
duct on the part Of Mr, Framer, could defeat his
'strong title to public remuneration:
The SOLICITOR GENERAL spoke at some length
•against the proposed grant, an:tread:a letter from
Mr. Palmer to a Mr. Bonner, instructing a person
:of the' name of Wilson how -to. impise on -Lord
,Val:it-1041am, (one of the Post Masters General),
to shed that Mr. Palmer had forfeited all claims
to public remuneration.
Sir V. BURDETT explained
Mr, WfllTEßPADWsinfavortr of the grant.
Mr. LOxG. was averse to fhe grant.
the House divided, when tii numbers were—
Illiavour of the Grant • 7,- 48
, - Again„S,
• Majority (for Mr. Palmer). : ..-37
Mr:LO C K.H &TIT postponed his"motion respect-
ing the Palace'Court to Ttiesday. -
Mr. WALLACE obtained leave to bring .in
Fill to authorise the re-transfer of the EaLt

dAt3 tOrnirly transferred N Ire to Lt 4-:

Mr. P. Coo x.- obtained leave to hrilig in a: Thli
for preventing fraull .aid abuses in the fcanie,
knittinf.); inanafietoriee:'. lie then brought hi--the
13111, which was read a iii.t time, and ante:red to'
he :read ;.sec end nitre On Monday.:
The. otiterOrdefs of the Day were disposed of,
and the Ifontx adjouriitid . '

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FRIDAY, JUNE 2(3, 1812.

It is entertaining to observe the manner in which
the !atc disappointment operates 'upon different
iNiembers of the Opposition. - Some of them are
too angry to conceal their feelings, or too candid'
to attempt dissiinulatimi, nod therefore they loud-
ly censure their Leaders for their fastidiousness
and their arrogance : some: of them prettAul. to.
view the. failure of their hopes with calm indif-
ference ; but their attempts to conceal their real
feelings produce effects-quite as ludicrous as those
of 'Sir Fretful Plagiar y , when he declares that he
is quite delighted with the criticisms of the news-
papers. 'Others-declare; that as far as -they are
individually concerned, they are quite -averse, to
Office; that nothing—no nothing !it a desire to
promote the -public good, c.iuld induce theip to
accept of place,- and that their only concern now
is for the Public, not for themelves ! We 'are very
sorry to say, that the Public repay this dit3intc-
rested kindness with the most shocking ingrati-
tude. Not ‘a -voice was heard, from one end of
the Empire to the other, expressive of a wish
that his Royal Highness should call these Pa-
triotic Statesmen. to his Councils, nor one word of
regret for the failure of -tile negotiation, as
far as the Party were concerned. In the in-
numerable Addresses Which have been sent
to the PRINCE • RF.f.3-ENT; from every part of
the kingdom, there is not a single sentence 'front
which- this unfortunate party, could deriVe the
smallest consolation. The result of the late
negotiation tends, most unquestionably, to proye
that the Party do not possess the - confidence of
the REGEN•r, the Parliament, or the People.

Our Readers will see, by the extracts which we
have madefrom the Papers whielL=iy,ed last
night, that hOstilities have not yet actualh, c6tn-
inenced between the French and 11.1.P..ians. We be-.
lieve The inactivity of the a: lies proceeds frbai the
\I-ant of - provisions :aU the private accounts
agree in stating that the inhabitants of... Poland are