The Sun.
London, England, 1840-05-14 00:00:00

ness—We all left the ground together, King having
given a penny for the tobacco, and I gave the prisoner
BOW-STREET. twopence-halfpenny, which I lost. He then asked me
THE ROBBERY AT THE LATE MR. TEM- to buy h:m a rushlight candle, which he paid me a
PLE:VIAN'S, POCOCK'S FIELDS, ISLINGTON. penny for.
About two o'clock yesterday, Richard Gould was plsced Mr. Hobler—What did he do with the rushlight ?
at the bar, before Mr. HALL, for re-examination, on the Witness—He put into his pocket.
charge of burglary, and stealing certain monies:, in the dwell- Prisoner—Flow many games did I play? Warless—
irg-house of Mr. Templeman, in Poeock'sefields.know.
1 I don't
Mr. Jardine and Mr. Twyford were present, and the risoeer Did I not play single hand except for the
tobacco ? Witness—Not while I was in the ground.
Duke of Brunswick was also on the bench. Prisoner—Have you not stated that you often go
Mr. HOBLER said, that from the evidence necessary to into the skittle ground and say you have money, when,
be adduced in support of the charge against the prisoner, in fact, you have none in your possession ? Witness—l
a remand would be necessary; but in the meantime he am not in the habit of doing any such thing.
would proceed to show that Mr. Temp!ernan was in posses- Constable Kerr, 13, N division, recollected being
sion of money on the evening before the robbery. sent to make inquiries respecting a murder in Po.
cock's-field on the 17th of March. The witness then
Mrs. Lovell, a married woman, residing in Northam's-
repeated the evidence which he gave on the trial re-
huildir eos, St. Par,erass, stated that she
.wes perfectly peeting the state of confusion he found the interior of
acquainted with the Late Mr. Templeman, who resided the cottage in. and described the marks on the drawers
at a cottage in Islington, at which she never had been,
and box in which the money had been deposited.
although repeatedly invited. Her husband was his
Sergeant King, N division, gave similar evidence.
tenant. Witness made a search on Tuesday last. in a pond, into
Mr. Hobler—Did you, on any occasion, pay him 'which a large sower empties itseft, where he found the
money for rent ? Witness—On the lesth of March, dark lanthorn produced, sunk in the mud, containing a
about a quarter before twelve o'clock at noon, ha came piece of rushlight candle in it.
to my house, and my husband being at Nswptc-market, Air. HALL—Were Yeti present when the prisoner was
I was the person who answered him. , re-examined in this Court ? Witness-Yes, and in
Mr. Hohler—What rent was due by you then . consequence, of the statement made by the prisoner,
Witness—There was a balance of 81. due for the ('through Sergeant Otway, searched the pond.
Christmas quarts. Mr. HALL—How far is the cottage from the pond ?
Mr. Ilobler—Was that rent due by you for the pre-
—Witness—The pond is about
twenty yards from
mites you occupied of hires at Somers-:own ? Witness— Allen's cottage, which is not very far from where the
Yes ; and upon his calling for it 'by appointment, I paid demised lived.
him. ' The prisoner declined putting any question to the
Mr. fabler—ln what sort of money did you pay witness.
him ? Witness—There were five cr six hall-crowns, Henri west, potbov at 'tile; Duchess of Kent pub-
one half sovereign, and' t'he'restln '''shilliage - anti airaetsiiimit}uflefrelt;' be‘e+iskied, knew the prism!,
pCDCCS. by the name of Richard for about eight or nine moads.
Mr. Hobler—Do you recollect how many sixpences ? He was at the Duchess of' Kent on the lath of March,
Witness—There might be six or seven, cr perhaps more. when he called for hzill a pint of beer, but witness took
Prisoner—The witness said on a fee mer occasion no money far it, as the prisoner said he had only one
that she did notice the cash.
penes'. This was in the taproom, and witness left hi.n
Mr. HALL told the prisoner he could put any sines- to deliver lacer to customers for about forty minutes.
tions he thought proper after the solicitor had concluded
On setahis reCurn, the prisoner was standing at the
his examination.
opposite side of the road talking to another pc'-
Witness knew there were five or six hslf-crowns, and Loy, named Squires, who asked witness if they were
the deceased gave no receipt, but he promised to bring :
gomg to have any more porter, and they then
it in a few days, in consequence of a conversation which
drank one pot in the street. It was then about a yeti:-
took place about building a shed, and she expressed a ter before rime o'clock, and witness went up the street
wish that he would allow 10s. more, which was coaling with the prisoner, Squires having gone away, when the
to him, for the expense of it,
prisoner said be had been ill, being in want of money,
Mr. HALL—And he said he would take time to
and he Os getting worse. He then said that he knew
consider ?
an old gentiornan who had got money. Witeess asked
Witness—He said he would call again in a few days him how Ise knew he had got money, when the prisoner
and consider of it in the meariaime. said he heard him bid 251. for a cottage, and that he
Mr. Hobler—What other conversation took place ? had flashed a 501. note, and had got more.
Witness—None that I can call to mind, but after a Mr. HALL—Did he tell you where he had seen him?
short delay he left, and I never sasv him again. Witnees—The gentleman was at that time in a ground
Mr. HALL (to the prisorser)—Now you can put any near a cottage. Witness asked him where he lived,
question you like, and the prisoner said, " No matter ; it is not far from
The Prisoner—Did not Mr. Templeton tell you home." Witness understood that he meant Pocock's-
that he was to pay away some money that day ? Niot- fields.
ness—No, he male no mention of any such thing to me. Mr. HALL—Did you know where the prisoner
Prisoner—Did you not say, on another occasion, that lodged ? Witnoss—l did, having lodged with him be-
some of the money was marked which you paid to him? kre I went to the Duchess of Kent's.
Witness—That was said b' another woman. Mr. Hobler—Where is the cottage situated ? Wit-
Mrs. Morgan, green-grocer, 18, Skinner-street. nest--At Wilson's cottage which is hold by Mr.
Somer's-town, was acquaiutedexith the deceased. At Allen.
,
about half past eleven o'clock on the 16th of March, in Mr. Hobler—Did you see the deceased ? Witness
the day time, he came to lies, house. —Yes, I used to serve him with beer when he was
Mr. Hobler—Was it to the house in which you at building his cottage.
present reside? Witness—:Yes, but that house did not Mr. Hobler—What distance may that be from Al-
belong to him.
len's ? Witness—About three hundred or four hundred
Mr. Hobler—Then how were ipu his tenant ? Wit- yards.
ness—About twelve mouths back I rented a house Mr. nobler —What other conversation had you with
next door to the last witness, in Somer's•town,and when him in the street ? Witness—He said that the notes
I left I owed no rent ; but he called to ask the loan of and money were in a drawer, and it would be a little
31., as he wanted to snake up a little money, which he gift to him, as he knew where to put his hand upon it.
premised to pay in a few days.
Mr. Hobler—Tell me, did you lend him the money, Mr. Hoblev—Whst else transpired ? Witness—He
said he would like to have one with him, and upon my
and describe it ? Witness—l lent it to him in fourteen
half-crowns and twenty-five shillings in shillings. One sa3 'in ;aright one, he said, " Yes, or I could do itf
mY'ser .
to take home, and the remainder he took away. " He also said that he was b-- pinched for
shilling was returned by him to buy some meat for him
money, and he would be d—d if he would not have it ; 1
I then left him. 1
Mr. Hobler—Did he take the meat with him ? Prisoner—How long is it since you have thought of
Witness—He took it away in a small basket, giving this evidence ? Witness—l never thought any
Mr. Hobler—Did he make any delay at your thing about it.
house ? He stopped and took dinner with us. Prisoner—Have you not frequently conversed upon
Mr. Hobler—Then when did he leave ? Witness—
the subject since i Witness—l have not, nor do I
About half-past three in the afternoon, and I never know that 1 heve said more than at Hatton-Garden.
saw him again. He appeared to be labouring under a Prisoner—Where did you say that I had been?
very bad cold at the time. Witness—You told me that you had been to see a shop-
Prisoner—Did not Mr. Templeman say to you thet mate, and you saw the gentleman flash a 501. note in
he was going to pay away some money ? Witness—l the garden.
can't say that he mentioned paying away any money. Prisoner—Why did you not say so before? Wit-
Prisoner Did you ever say that he was to pay neas—l have said so before.
away money ? Witness—No, I never did. Prisoner—l dare say you have often said so before
lirisOner—Was there any of the -nonce, you then paid and often since.
to him marked ? Witness—No, but 1 have had a
marked shilling in my possession. John R. Jobson, a print colourer, of 7, Dorset-
street, Spitalflelds, proved that he knew the prisoner
. Prisoner—l wish that the answer to the question be- for about live years, and repeated the former evidence
fore the last- would be taken down, namely, that she he had given, of his coming on the 13th of March to
can't say he was to have paid away money.
borrow a screw-driver and other articles from a fellow-
Mr. Hobler—Had you not said on a former occasion lodger. He also proved that he was a deserter from
that there was a marked shilling ? Witness—l have the Ilth Light Dragoons.
had a marked shilling, which I thought I had given to
James Roger, an umbrella maker, proved his having
him ; but on searching at my house? I found it. Before
the Coroner 1 was asked, could I identify the money? applied to him on the 13th March for a screw-driver
and a darkest, and he was in such a poor condition that
and I said I could not, except a shilling which I had
taken on the Saturday ; on searching my bag I could he was obliged to treat him to some beer.
not find it, but I found it on my return hem Prisoner—You said that you supposed skeleton keys
e.
The prisoner said that it mattered very little if the and a dark lantern. What reason had you for saying
witness recalled her statements now, but she should not so?
.Witness—I understood you to mean both.
have done so on another occasion.
Prisoner—ls it a general thing to keep skeleton keys
Mr. HALL said she had not recalled any statement, and dark tenterns at a cast-iron shop ? Witness—l
but explained the meaning of the answer she had then considered you might have thought I had them, on that
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given.
Mr. Hobler remarked that his object was to prevent
the witness undergoing a cross-examination on the point
in another place, and not to expose her to the charge of
having contradicted herself.
Robert King, a sweep, residing at 8, Phoenix-street,
Back-road, Islington, knew the prisoner, having played
at skittles with him.

account.
Mrs. Allea gave similar testimnny to that which she
gave at the t!4al ; and was cross-examined by the pri-
soner, as to the situation of her back-yard. She also
identified the stockin;s in which the money was found
as belonging to the prisoner ; and he usually kept good
hours until the night in question.
Mr. Ilobler said that was the only evidence he bad

Mr. Hobler—Tell the Magistrate if you met with
him in the month of March last, and what occurred on
the occasion? ‘Vitness—We played on the day before
the murder took place.
Mr. Hobler—Where did you meet with him ? Wit-
nessat the Rainbow public-house, which is opposito to
where I live.
Mr. Hobler—At what time did you go there? Wit-
ness—ln the afternoon, before the prisoner entered
the ground. •
Mr. Hobler—What remark did he mike when he
came in ? Witness—He said he would like to have a
game, and he had three-halfpence.
Mr. Hobler—Did he make any remark about a pint
of beer ? Witness--He said he would lay a pint of
beer if any one would bet with him, and I played with
him and two others for a pint each, but the prisoner
was of the winning party.
Mr. nobler—What did he say he would do if he
lost. Witness—lie said he could get a pint from the
pot- bcy on credit, and he afterwards played single band
' with me for a half ounce of tobacco, which he won. We
all then went into the tap-room, and drank the two pots
of Sezr. •

to offer at present, and he hoped there would be no ob-
jection to remand the prisoner until Tuesday next.
Prisoner--When I was last brought hare, the shoes
were taken off my feet, and I was obliged to borrow
others, which I wish now to return ; and I want to
know how I am to be provided with others, for the next
examination.
Mr. Hobler said he was sure the people at the priscn
would aford every accommodation in that way to him.
Prisoner-1 applied to the turnkey to get me some,
as my own were taken away for the ends ofjustico ; but
he told me that there was no provision of that kind in
the prison.
Mr. HALL said that probably the shoes belonged to
sonic person about the Court, who would not be likely
to want them again for some time.
TilQ prisoner then said that be felt very weak, having
had no nourishment except gruel since the morning, at
the prison.
Mr. HALL instantly ordered him to be supplied with
bread and cheese, and a pint of beer or coffee. lie
was then removed from the bar, and ordered to be
brought up ,again on Tuesday next.

Mr. nobler—How soon after did you leave the
house ? Witness—About a quarter to twelve o'clock ;
we all came out together, and the gas was put out.
Mr. Nobler said that sufficient had been shown to
prove that the prison'r bad no money in his possession
on the night previous to the murder.

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Prisonet—Did you and I not play another single
game previous to our playing for tobacco? Witness—
I doubt it.

Prisoner—l have asked a straightforward question,
and I expect you wiU give a direct answer. Now, on
your oath did I not pay for beer on that night?
Witness—l did not see you.

Prisoner—Were you not drunk on that night ? Wit-
ness—l was pretty well.
Prisoner—Say, were you drunk or sober, when you
heard me speak about three-halfpence ? Witness—
I was not sober.

Prisoner—Have you not been spiking to persons
in the skittle-ground about tha present examination ?
Witness—No. I have not.

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risoner—What is the price of a pot of beer ?
Witness-sd. I believe.
Prisoner—l have no other question to ask ; but I
have proof that I. paid for a pot of beer on the night
in question.
Robert Pisey, a shoemaker, 17, Eider-walk, Lower-
street, Islington, was acquainted with the R.,inbow
public-house, to which a skittle-groutd is attached.
Witness heard of the murder of the following Wed-
nesday.
Mr. Hobler—Were you at the Rainbow on the
Wednesday night before the murder happened? Wit-
ness—l went there about sis o'clock in the evening,
with King, the sweep, and the priloner came in dur-
ing the evening.
Mr. Nobler—What did he soy to any person? Wit-
ness—He said to every person on the ground be should
like to play a game, but he had only three-halfpence in
his pocket.
Mr. Hobler—Did he say that he would play with
any one in particular ? 'Witness—He said that if any
person would lend him a penny he would make one of
four.

Mr. Nobler—Then did any person lend him ? Wit-
ness—No ; but the potboy said be would give him a
pint of beer on credit. Th 9 sweep, the prisoner, an-
other, and myself then played, and the priioner woo the
game, aad then he played a single hand with the sweep
for tobacco, and won again.
Mr. Hobler—Did you then leave the ground ? Wit-