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with Manchester to have regard to their spiritual conscseerns..
And of that body there is no one there probably who po etea,,
the means of superintending the education of 60,000
of the inhabitants of the poorer classes. How is that educati
to be provided for them ? The priests no doubt would attend.
or 70,17
to them, but I apprehend that the means of the priest to pare?.
vide a system of education are most limited. Is it to the
vantage of the State that the children of 60,000 or 70.07.
should he brought up in ignorance? I confess that I cannot oo s
calve a more urgent case; and not onl, so far as the lut a
it o
advantage of the Roman Catholics is concerned ; but if
are,
only for the truth of the prnciple you have brought forvtio:
against barbarism, or on account of the crime and deg that
of character which is caused by ignorance—if it be for. ;
principle which you hare all agreed to,
in nelvery
.
ought not to be brought up
and ignorance, which could only lead to tr' ,e.s
As a question of policy and justice, I maintain that you ougu.
to make some provision for the education of the rising
toys,,
those chiT
ration. The schools of the Roman Catholics, in large toetirSs
at present, are very imperfectly supported, and, therefore,
.ot7
important that ti-sir case should be taken into considerati
It was more likely that such a course—the granting sums
money to maintain their schools—would soften their feelinegbe;
and reconcile them to the truths of Protestantism, tha
acting in an intolerant anti exclusive spirit.—(flear,be!r•
This was a much more advisable course than to leave themeinsieng.
generation in a state cf perpetual ignorance. MY fi 1-• rg
suasion is that considerable advantage will result by arrane.
that the children of all shall have the benefit of a-
che eculaie
cation. On this head I must state, that I listened tetchy
speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Home Set-r
with the greatest satisfaction—a spi ech which holds out grte.e
hapes of a settlement of the question in a manner to meet
wishes which the House has expressed. I know that tbegllFl
Lion is most difficult, and I think that it is wise to proceed et!,'".
caution ; still I think that some means should be taken.r.
providing for the edneasion of tf e children of Roman Can
I cc. I think there is a prospect of passing this measure, 1101'
understand, from a declaration of the Government that ere °I%
rely upon an early consideration of the claims of the Rculte
Ca holies. That bring the case I shall not be irolined to Vtk,
the risk of urging, at this time, the Government at once to prli
pose a scheme of Roman Catholic education. I3utl 'l°_,C,Sat
upon them not to accept the support of any body to the rt.-se
confined
minutes, holding it as a principle that the Roman
are to be excluded. There ought to be no exclusion.— Louis
cheers.) If there is 'll_, prabability of an early electi(°l/',..
may be important that there should be no misunderstandiugs
( Loud cheers.) If the Government recognise the prieelt
which I understand them to recognise, and fairly ev'w
recognition, then they give fair notice to all parties, tof ,
although there may be some delay in the preparation
additional minutes, yet the principle is recoginaed that
must not take one class of Christians and of her Ps'
jesty's subjects, and deem them to perpetual ignore net
upon account of their religious opinions. I would ear°
men of all religious denominations to consider *bat
has been the cause of delay in the promotion of educatioth
It has arisen originally from a belief that instruction 09
dangerous to the institutions of the country. That impreesi,°s
passed away, it was succeeded by great indifference,--at
nifference from which the Dissenting body was the fiat
-
be awakened, and set the example of activity in the cause;,
education. They were followed by others, and there
of late years been great activity and great zeal exhibin
We are all admitting the importance of education, but
are preventing its progress because they are afraid that 10:
other body would interfere with their religious ollip,llbre
Thus, Dissenters object one day that the education
Church does not recognise the claims of Dissenters. `,l
Church again objects that the Dissenters do not recogni'eiNda
claims. Whilst this is going on, what is becoming of the
children born every day, of the 300,000 added yearly to ouro
population ? Whilst we are fighting and Squabbling 6,Fi°eb
there points of difference, we are neglecting that wusi,
ought in all Christian lands to be a subject o deep c°°
.ca
deration, viz., the enlightenment of the people in Chris"le
principles—the improvement of their intellectual cult'!';!'
and their instruction in secular knowledge. I believe
true charity, true policy, and true regard for religion
truth, ought to encourage us to lay aside our differences'dA tO
to contemplate the magnitude of the present evil,
teach the children of all sects the great truths of `l"s-0..
tianity.---(Cheers.) lam for a religious educ.ation,,,l;ern
posed to a secular education.—( Hear, hear.) .1 ea
the difficulties of the ease. Yet still I think that some arravght
ment should be made by which the children of all sects usig
be made to participate in the benefits of the Goveruneoli
grant. Ido not believe that a purely secular education et, 'l4O
be acceptable to the people of this country, but I, nt
believe a religious one to be at the least as issporsea„
as secular education; and I believe it to be for the inoterthal
of the country. I believe it to be for the interests, I, vet
Protestant rel:gien which shrinks not from the light, 0;;0
rejoices in the spread of knowledge, that the peoPle neca
not be left in a state of ignorance; but, by receiving inte tiorl
tual culture, their minds should be prepared for thereecep 110
sn.
of those great truths which, in the first instance, is th .
dation of all religion, and more especially of that religion
which relies more than any other on self-judgment en'. I
lectual culture, which cours inqry, and is therefore the
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more likely to recommend t
itselfui to a wisa, and re°
people.—( Loud and conued cheeri). • eon-
Mr. PLUMPTRE wtiasn ng
anxious to say a few words, in
sequence of the debate that evening. Wherein did there a,
culty consist? Was it that the people of England 'O
ignorant people ? No ; but they were a Protestant people.:
and therefore it was that there were objections to the prop .al
tions which were made by the Government. The propo.t
might be expediency, but it was not Christianity.
.The peort°
either side.
placed no dependence on their leaders on
of the House, and be thooodugahntdthfaatitthhfeuyi would at
representatives,
would opportunity, choose g,
would truly consult their religious feelings and act upon theta.
Mr. NEWDEGATE, who ruse amidst the utmost cone
fusion, was understood to ask Lord John Russell whether it
was the intention of her Majesty's Government to submit the
future minutes of the council, with respect to the admission of
Catholics to a participation in the grants of the Government,
to the House?
Lord J RUSSELL—Of course, on future minutes be roost
ask the opinion of Parliament.
The House then divided, whets there appeared—
For the grant... ...... „. 372
Against it ....................................... 47
Majority for the Government ......... 3?5
QUAKERS' AND JEWS' MARRIAGE BILL.
This Bill
ain went through Committee.
The remaining orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at One o'clock

RAILWAY SHAREMARgETS•
LIVERPOOL, APRIL 22. Notting" •
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are -Amhergate,
keabead,
ham, Boston, and Eastern Junction, 3/4 ni and
Lancashire, and Cheshire Junction, 3/4 dia.-Binning,
Oxford Junction, 8% .--Chester and Birkenhead,
p arill
East Lancashire, New (scrip), % p.-Edinburgh d
L o ndon
g0w,72-Liverpool, Crosby, and ,Southport,„jar,
and North-Western, 1721 A-Ditto, Quarters, la7B
New Quarters, 10 p.-London and Manchester andsl-11.1.nce,„
ham, Quarters (A), 5% p.-Manchester and Leed njo.
81/2 p.-Ditto, 32/. Shares (late Extension), 1% r'
_man-
cheater, Sheffield, and Lincelnshire, Quarters,
cheater and Southampton, ya
Shares, 3% p.-Ditto, New, 2% p.-North Staffords
Sixths,
p.-North- Western, 335. 9d. dis.-Preston and Wyre r
and
51-Shrewsbury and Hereford, IIA dis.-Shrewsb v ,
dis.-Midland, 11146-d-Litto,4o/.
Chester, (late N. W. M.), 51% p.-Ditto, New, 11-_york
Eastern and Dover, No. 2, % p.-Ditto, No. 4,
and Newcastle, Preference, 31% p.-East Indian, ls
MANCHESTER, Aram 22.
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Birkenhead,
shire, and Cheshire Junction, :m -East Lannscrip),
and P.), par-Ditto, New, par-Ditto,
New.
13-16.-Great
Fleetwood, Preston, and West Biding Junction, and
Northern, :1-Iladderstield and Manchester -R
Canal, 1% c.-Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle
tion, 1 %2-Manchester and Leeds, 32/ Shares (late
sion), 114-Ditto, Fifths (late West Riding Union), 2,
Latfoc.:
-Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, Quarters,
211%-Ditto (Sheffield and Lincolnshire), 2 11-16
cheater and Ol
Southampton,2- 19s. 6erth Stafford I
on',
tern and Dover, No. 4, 1-16
shire Union, Ir?ii-South-Eas
2 1-16-North-Wcstern, dham Alliance, M-Sbr P
South Yorkshire, Doncaster, and Goole, A c.
LEEDS, APRIL 22.
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Ambergate, Notting-
ham, and Boston, 16s. dis.-East Lancashire, New, is. 3d. P.
-Ditto, New Scrip, 6s. p.-East and West Yorkshire, Ird
6d. dis.-Huddersfield and Manchester, 7s. 6d. p.-Leeds a
Dowsbury, New Extensions, Scrip (pink), Is. dis.-Leeda
and Thirsk, 4 dis.-Ditto, New. 21/2 dis.-Ditto, Preference,
[ls. p.-London, Oxford, and Cheltenham, 15s. dis.-1112"-
cheater and Leeds, Fifths, 4 8 p.-Ditto, 32/. Shares (late
Extensons), 18s. 6d.
-11te, West Riding Union, 11,s;
p.-Midland, Preference, 21/s p.-North British, Halves, 274
p.-Ditto, Thirds, 40s. p.-Ditto, Quarters (late Carlisle
Etilet.ltr,o3ni
i,;;3l:67,dsExtension..Dpd:_
N 0
r(ishcerri
up ), 10.
Counties 6 du.
npi
La.
2NI 'tidleribsSLt'a
NtirolAurrdtahhp:i -Ditto,
jAS.PRIL 22.
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are Ambergate, Notting-
ham, and Boston, 15s. dip.-Manchester, Sheffield, anolLiw•
colnshire (Grimsby and Sheffield), 6% dis.-Ditto, 201.
Shares, 21/2 dis.-Ditto, 12!, 10s. Shares, 355. di Wes
Riding Union, 14s. p.
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE, Anat. 22.
STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Eastern Counties,
York Extensions, 14 dis.-Fleetwood, Preston, and West
Riding, 15s. dis.-Manchester, Great Grit-nab)", and Sheffield,
6 j 8 dis.-Ditto, Extension, 48s. dis.-Newcastle and Carlisle,
11114-Newcastle and Berwick, New, 2 7-16
tish, Thirds, 425.-Ditto, Quarters, 114 p.-West
Union, 15s. p.
EDINBURGH, Arm'. 21.
STOCK Excnexcir..,-The sales are-Caledonian, New,
.13s. &I-Dundee and Perth, New, 191 A-East Lothian Cen-
tral, 525. 6c1.-EdiphuriCh- and Bathgate, 71. Is.-Edinburgh,
Leith, and Granton, Quarters, 13s. 3(1:-Edinburgh and
Northern, New, 725.-Ditto, Newport, 71. 65.-Edinburgh
and Perth, 535.- Ditto, Halves, 195.-Great Northern, 62a.
6d.-North British, 3214-Ditto, Quarters, 695. 6t1.-Ditto,
a Now,snedot Scottish
Madras,
Central,a6sd,
.3_s_s t2iE5Ol/44lislAitg
IsiSnaG, 25%-Shrewsbury,
Oiredaelinwyl3eb 35.-Great
New Quarters (scrip), 235. 6d.-Ditto, Thirds,- 61s.
Midland,C)r
455.
-Direct
tCinnlidoTual:biasrs.;
STOCK EXCHANGGEL. are-East2l. Indian, 39-
East Lothian Central, 51s. 61. -Edinburgh and Glnag°W,
Halves. 19/.-Edinburgh and Perth (New Co.), 548.,j6,-,dc,
Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ayr, 581/2-Ditto Halves,
634-Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle, 51/2Great Southern
of Madras, Is. 6d.-Kilmarnock and Carlisle, 5t
313.-L°ll-
- and Brighton, 5214-Madras, Nellore, and Arcot, la.;
Manchester and Southampton, Vs. 6d.-Midland,
gah•ll4-North British, New Quarters (scrip), 23''-'"
ttish
Central, 2514-York and Newcastle, 331/
2

BIRTHS
On the 22d inst., the wife of G. Robins, Egi',
surgeon, of
Boifoid-street, Covent-garden, of a daughter.
of the 17th inst., at Gloucester, the laity of Lieutenant'
Colonel 11. R. Osborn, of the Bengal Army, of a d.aughter.
On the 18th inst., at Wavertree, near Liverpool, Mrs'
Laker, of a son.

MARRIED.
Oa the 22d inst., at Axbridge, Somerset, by the Rev. Ge•
G. Beadon, the Rector, Herbert Adolphus Wed, Rig.,
Walworth, London, to Maria Harriet Vesie, youngest dau4ll-
- of Robert Park., of the former place.
On the 7th inst.,er, theat British Embassy, St. Petersburg'',
Henry Bruxner, Esq., to Emily Georgiaua, second daughter
of Robert Cattley, Esq.
On the 21st inst., Edward Gardner, Esq., to Hester, third
daughter of the late Mr. G. Harrison, 1381)"er.

DIED.
On the 16th inst. , John Leech, Es q , of Lea, Surrey, aged 86.
On the lath just, in New-road, Gower- street North,
Amelia Mary, youngest daughter of Captain J. Cbiosso.
On the 19th inst., at Rottingdean, near Brighton, 31i"
Margaret Parry Thomas.
On the 19th inst., in Cavendish-square, Harriett Jane
Christine, youngest daughter of Sir James Hawking Whit-
shed, Bart., Admiral of the Fleet.
01 the 19th inst., Louisa Elizabeth, the wire of John An-
drews, Esq.,
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titrand, Printer, :•tt 2718 No. t 12, tit' and, iv the mole."
of the Savoy, In the County 'el Middlesex, Irmo; A 2"
1847.