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could not be procured, for the discount of bills, it
followed that the military chest must be scantily
supplied.. The Noble Lord had also shOrtly al-
luded *to other topies ; with. respect to the (n,
the• Noble Lord had said, for his
part' he should ace- in a Manly a 7:! decided!nail-
ner, and_ give thein"his distinct
he thought svould he far honourable than
eluding -them by a side and• evading instead
-Of boldly meeting the :With respect to
the.question of 'Americ a, he admitted that it in-
voked other Matt&s besides the Orders in Conn-
eil, and justified this country in the' course she
had pursued, gqing it was clear that there was a
War faction,in America devoted to. the French;
and who were determined at all hazards to preci-
pitate AMerica into a war withthis country.
LordGsiiiivt-LLE entered into the question of
the-Spanish war... Me said the Noble Marquis
had reasoned:correctly in his view of 'the subject.
But the difficulties 'which had arisen in his mind
clearly sbewed the impOlicv of piirsuing the' War
in that couutty. 'lie Spoke with doubt of the of-'
forts of the' Spanish Government, but admitted
that the peasantry possessed a better feeling,
,but
that the armies- as -now, constituted, were ná
avail as allies, and instanced the conduct of Bal-
lasteros, who had neglected hiS duty in the South,
of preYenting the' junction of Suchet and Soult.—
His Lordship also adverted to the queition.OP the
American War, 'and insisted that:our concession
in repealing the-Orders in Council:came- !too:late,
and that it such concession had been earlier-made,
it would have been' Incite effectual. Such was the
case of the • American war-;. which ended in the
loss of our Colonies; concession was made after
concession, but every -thing was made too late,
and that which would originally have been teeth-
ed with gratitude, was,,when ofiered,.rejectedt With
rcontempt:. His Lord Ship Went over the same
grounds as' the -Noble ,I`,l4rqUis, and condemned
the inOtle which tsiThiSters had• adopted, bath:in
the Peninsula and With our Northern Allies.:
Earl BATi',URSt' successfully vindicated the' con-
duct of-Ministers:with :!respect to the. Peninsula
ivar, more especially !in- regard the degree and.,
nature of-the rcinfOrcements to be forwarded to.
the. MarqUiS of Wellington. fie observed; ; that
his NOble•Relative opposite -well knew the entire
.cOnfidence: Ministers -plaCed in that illustrious per,
ion; and 'adverted particularly to the point—Lord
Wellington's not deeming it advisable to send new
regiments' to Spain ;- so particularly careful was
that excellent-Officer of the health of his, troops.
Aavertiit• to 'What was said of the documents re-
specting'. the American affair not being on the
table, be Obs''erved, that Government had not yet
TeceiVedthefinal answer Of the States to the pro-
trarisnlitted- through Sir John Warren ;
and took occasion to retnark that the Orders in
'Council were not the only ground of deMurrer on
the part of America.
The Marquis WELLEstey, conceiving that some
points urged by Noble Lords opposite were per-
.sonally applied to him, shortly, explained, that he
taro-Ught the system Of-the war in the,Peninsula in-
-adequaretd its object.; an opinion which he had
uniforniirdeclared—but he could not. particular-
ise the permission ofhis
reign or his'Representative.
Isord ViSCOUIIi'MELVILLS defended the conduct_
of the-British Admiralty with: respect to the Ame-
rican and West lndia-stations, observing), that on
the'thilifax station long before the com-
menceMent of hostilities, the squadron was double
the strength of the whole American navy. This
he enumerated, as welt as, the force in the West
-seas;lndian and stated the, American navy .to
consist of five frigates and a few sloops .of
was impossible to guard against such casualtieS
as -were alluded- to by Noble LordS opposite, but
care was taken to render such attempts an ex-
treme risk on the part of the enemy.
:-Lord CfnEf4vltLE spoke shortly in explanation.
The Question was then put, and the Address
agreed to with Out a division—and the Lords with-
staves.:were ordered .to inquire when his
RoYal Highness would'he pleased to receive the
•
The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved, that the Lord
WalSitigWtm! 'be constituted' Chairman of all the
Committees 'of that House during the present Ses-'
siorr of Parliament-=a motion, the propriety of!
which; he -was confident, every Noble Member' of
!". that liduse would aequiesee.in:
The''Los.n CHANCELLOR observed, that if' the
House could' secure' those services -of -the Noble
LOrti for ever, 'it would be a blessing.
Lord-WALsiNGHAM.Shortiy expressed his grate-
ful-sense of what had fallen front the .Noble Loyds:
'The question was put, and' it- was ordered ac-
cordingly, 'Nem. Kiss.
MARQUIS OF WELL7GTOR: • '
• • . • • •
The Earl of ,LIVERidOL gave notice, that he
should on Thursday 'next move for-the-Thanks.
of that Hbuse to the Marquis of 'Wellington, Ora
that the Lords be -summoned -accordingly.
tiered. • . • •
At Twelve o'Clock the House adjourned till t 0...
morrow.