The Sun.
London, England, 1847-03-17 00:00:00

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.

LONDON, MARCH 16.—Wind this day at noon S.S.E.,
light breeze, and fine clear weather.
DEAL, MARCH 15.—Wind S., light.—And. Agricola,
Potter, Singapore; Harebell, Eales, Mauritius; Wa,bington,
Barnet, Valparaiso; Agne, Johnson, Honduras. Sid. Bowes
of Streatham, Penang, &c.; Duke of 'Norfolk, Grenada;
Mary Rowe, Chesapeake Bay; Douglas, New York; Great
Britain, Montreal. Arrd. from the Riser, Mer, Rio Janeiro;
Sovereign, Demerara • Union. Baltimore. Off Dcver, 13th,
Navigator, Monte Video. The Perseverance, Waterford
to London, on shore on the South Foreland 12th inst., got
off this morning, and in proceeding to Ramsgate capsiztd on
the Sandwich Flats.

SOUTHAMPTON, MARCH 15.—Wind N.E.—Arrd. Claren-
don, Hall. Bay of Honduras; Montrose, Gibraltar. Sld
Priscilla, Philadelphia.
PORTLAND RoADS, MARCH I3.—Arrd. Dolphin, Spelle,
Monte Video, for Bremen.

GutuceseEn, MARCH I.s.—Wind S. to S.W.—Arrd.
Chieftain, Duffy, St. John's, New Brunsw:ck.
PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 15.—Wind S.S.E.—And. her Ma-
jesty's ship Cleopatra, Cape of Good Hope. Off port, Hasan-
del, Dupair, Batavia for Rotterdam; Richmond, Furber,
Algos Bay. A timber-laden vessel, water-logged and aban-
doned, with bowsprit standing, and stern stove in, was passed
12th inst., in lat. 45, long. 13,by her Majesty's ship Cleopatra.
BRISTOL. Maecif 15. —Wind S.S.W.—Arrd. Eleanor,
Rees, Demerara.

MUMBLES, MARCH 15.—Wind E.—Arrd. Rigabar, Reside,
Valparaiso. _

FALMOUTH, MARCH 15.—Wind S. to S.W.—Arrd. Baltic
Enos, Batavia; Charlotte, Hawkins, Bombay; Elizabeth,
Huey. Monte Video; Lady Sale, Law, Port-au-Prince.
ABERDEEY, MARC!! 13.—Wind N.W.—Sld. Kitty, New
Orleans; Albion, Halifax, Nova Scotia. The Nautilus, from
Alloa to this port, was in contact 11th inst., near Stone-
haven, with the Dee iron clipper, and immediately sank;
one man drowned.
DARTMOUTH, MARCH 15.—Wind S S.W.—Arrd. off,
Speculation, Voight, Callao for Antwerp.
SUNDERLAND, MARCH 15.—Wind S.W.—Sid. Walter
Marres, New York; Irvine, Baltimore.
Hum, MARCH 15.—Wind S.W., moderate.—Arrd. Vulcan,
Petrell, Chintha Islands; Avon, Conel, Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Put back, Waterloo, for St. John's, New Brunswick.
LIVERPOOL, MARCH 15. Wind S., moderate.—Arrd.
Emily, Herriman, China; left St. Helena 29th January •
Martha, Turner, Havannah ; Norman, Sydney. N. B.
Sld. Mertoun, New Orleans; Bowling, Virginia; Emmanuel,
New York; Virginia, Staten Island; California, St. John's,
New Brunswick. Off port, Ferris, Madras • Mountaineer,
Bombay; Adriana, Benin; Princess Charlotte, Mobile; ,
John Walker, Birkenhead; Dirk Hatteraick, Bolton Abbey;
Standard, Chaos, Elizabeth Thompson, North Pole, and
Glasgow.
The Ariana, from New York, and the Antonia, from
Swansea, were in contact in the river, and both received
trifling damage.
PLYMOUTH, MARCH 15.—Wind S.E.—Sld. H. M. steamer
Mariner, coast of Africa.

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CORK, MARCH 13.—Wind S.W., fresh.—Arrd. Golconda,
Say, Callao; Polly, Renny, ditto; E. Porter, Coulter, New
York.

THE Sawa. DEBTS BILL.—The Sborediteh and
Bow County Courts of Middlesex, established under the Act
9th and 10th of Victoria, c. 95, for the recovery of small
debts and demands, were duly opened on Monday by Mr.
Henry Stocks, sergeant-at-law, the judge of the courts, and
the officers of the courts thee appointed. The proceedings
were then adjourned.

CANTERBURY ELECTION.—The election of a Mom-
r of Parliament for the city of C interbury took place
on Monday. Lord Albert Conyngham being unopposed was
returned. His Lordship was proposed by Mr. Alderman
Brent, and seconued by Mr. Alderman Neame.
HERTFORD AND HITCHIN kILWAY.—A public
meeting of the inhabitants of Hertford, called by the mayor,
in compliance with a requisition which was signed by most
of the resnectable inhabitants of the borough, was held at the
Town Hall, on Tuesday evening, for the purpose of consider-
ing a petition to Parliament, in favour of the line of railway
which is projected by the Eastern Counties Railway Com-
pany, from Hertford to Hitchin. A petition in favour of the
direct line from Hertford to Hitchin was unanimously
adopted, and the business closed.
PROPOSED STATUE TO THE QUEEN DOWAGER.—
A deputation door the wards of Bridge and Candlewick,
headed by Deputy Evans, waited upon the Lord Mayor last
week, for the purpose of suggesting to his Lordship the pm-
priety of raising by public subscription a fund for erecting
a statue in some part of the City of London in honour of
her Majesty the Queen Dowager, and to solicit his Lordship's
support in carrying that object into execution. The gentle-
men of the deputation were most cordially received by his
Lordship, who expressed himself highly gratified at the sug-
gestion, and stated that the proposition should not only
receive his most cordial suppm t, but that he would use every
means in his power lo promote it. We are given to under-
stand that a committee has been formed, with the view of
carrying out the object in the most creditable manner, and
that public notice will be given in due time of the proceedings.
VISIT OF THE DUCHESS OF KENT TO GERMANY, &C.
—The Duchess of Kent is expected to leave England early
in the spring (probably shortly after Easter) for the Conti-
nent, proceeding first to Brussels, upon a visit to her brother,
the King of the Belgians, and thence to Germany, to pay a
visit of two or three months' duration to her Royal High-
uess's relations at Saxe Coburg and Saxe Gotha, and in
some other of the German States, previously to returning to
England. It is stated that her Royal Highness will probably
take Paris en route to this country from Germany, and will
be the guest of Louis Philippe, at the Tuileries, during her
short stay in the French capital.
ACCIDENT TO MR. WAGHORN.—This indefatigable
traveller, traveller, while crossing the Alps with Mr. Auc
gineer and surveyor, was upset in his carriage.
been An
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lanche had fallen across the road, which had_
away only from half the breadth of the road, i
he postillion did not see it, and he drove enetwbheinelgunpigtihi night
slope of the bank, and overturned the carriage. Neither Mr.
Waghorn or his companion were, however, in the smallest
(levee hurt,

GROUP No. I.
The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of
the Bills comprised in this group, re-assembled in Room 30,
at the usual hour this morning; Lord Granville Somerset lit
the chair.

THE SOUTH-EASTEUN SCHEMES.,
The evidence in favour of these lines was resumed. The
first witness called was Mr. E. Ellis, a wholesale ironmonger
of Maidstone. who gave general evidence in favour of the
Mid Kent line; as did also Sir Edmund Filmer, M.P.
Mr. James Macgregor, Chairman of the South-Eastern
Company, related the history and progress of the company..
The first dividend paid was in October, 1844, amounting
only to 16s. 6d. per share, and the last in October, 1846,
amounting to 17s. per share. In 1845, the charges to the
public in August were, for first class from London to Dover,
18s. 6d. ; second, 12s. • and third, 7s. Gd. Subsequently
the fares were reduced 15s. Gd. for fir,t class, and 102. for
Second, en the whole distance, with the view of developing
the traffic, While the third•class trains were doubled, two
expr,s; trains per diein were put on. and an ex.ensive day
ticket system was adopted. and all for the advantage and
accommocation of the public. This experiment was made
ti,r tt.r, e months, but it did not succeed ; in fact, it
resulted in a serious loss to the company, indeed to
no less an extent than 00,000 Z upon the whole year.
The company was, therefore, cempelled to re-adjust their
firs, and at present they stood thus :—First class to Dover,
163. Gd., second 125., and third 7s. 4d. Upon the comparison
with the charges on other lit.es it would be found that on
thirteen ot the principal lines the average was 1-75th, while
on tie Seutti.Eastern it did not average more than 1-631 d.
On the Brighton the average was 1-70. If the lines the com-
pany has now before the Cenimit tee weregranted, he was pre-
pared to pledge himself that the maximum charges for
passengers on the line should be—for express 2-75 t Its per mile,
for lost 2-25ths per mile, for sec..nd 1-65ths, and for third
Id. per mile. it h regard to the charges for goods, a state-
ment upon that head would hereafter be submitted to the
Committee. Competition in railways could never be main-
tained it, Kent, and he thought it highly desirable that the
Committee should discountenance such a principle. It had
been openly denounced by Mr. Grenfell, the chairman o
the Brighton Company himself, while speaking at one of
his own meetings of the absurdity of their attempting
to compete with the South-Western Company for
Portsmouth traffic; but, indeed, upon all hands it was ad.
mitted that a well-regulated monopoly in railways always
proved more advantageous for the public than competition.
Hitherto the South-Eastern Company had been struggling
with severe difficulties, but it was now approaching a state
when it could. afford almost every amount of accommoda-
tion to the public. These extensions, it was true, would
render a great portion of the main line useless, but although
the undertaking in its early career involved an immense out-
lay of money, these new lines and extensions would amply
repay the shareholders for the risks they had already
run for the benefit of the public. With regard to the ex-
tension of the line from Canterbury to Dover, that
was, in his estimation, a question ot time. He fully ad-
mitted the expedience and utility of such a line, and was
prepared to pledge the South-Eastern Company to construct
it, so soon as the works they were, he hoped, about to under.
take should be completed.
Mr. Macgregor was cross-examined by Mr. TALBOT. The
cross-examination was confined almost exclusively to the
question of raising the fares. All, however, that it elicited
was, that on one or two occasions, shortly after the reduction
of the fares, Mr. Macgregor admitted at a meeting in Canter-
bury, and at a meeting of proprietors, that the experiment had
so tar succeeded beyond previous expectation; while in Mr.
Morrison's committee, one of the officers of the South-Eastern
Company (Mr. Wheatley, the accountant) made the same
admission. The long or through fares were settled by the
hoard of directors, but the intermediate fares were fixed by
the local officers, who were previously put in possession of
the views of the directors on the subject. He denied that
the board had recently contemplated raising their charges on
parcels. It was true, that a new order had been issued,
altering the mode of charging, but not raising the charge.
Mr. TALBOT said he should require that the minute-book
containing the note of the change should be produced.
The COUNSEL for the South-Eastern Company said it
was hardly fair that the director of one railway com-
pany should be allowed to go rummagin over the pri-
vate books of another company. His Learned Friend
should have a certified copy of the minute he referred to,
namely, 4th. December, 18-16, and no more could be required
of Mr. Macgregor.
The Cross-examination was then continued.—The secre-
tary of the company wrote a letter to the different depart-
ments, authorising the alteration, but the order was subse-
quently rescinded. The truth was, that the directors were
anxious so to reduce the carriage of parcels by passengers'
trains, as to throw that description of traffic off the goods'
trains on to the passengers' trains, and the minute or rider
now under discussion was in that spirit. Under the existing
system, the parcel was not sent directly from the transmitter
to the railway, but through the agency of receivers, who, al-
though they had a large package of these parcels tarried at a
low rate, still charged a very high rate to the original
transmitter. The order in question was made to break down
that system, but unfortunately the order was so framed
that the carriage of a parcel by passenger trains for a short
distance was charged the same as for a long distance. The
defect was only discovered recently, and the company were
about to establish the system of carrying parcels by the
passenger trains and charging for them by the distance in
the same way that they chargd for passengers. Mr. Mac-
gregor complained that his character and veracity had been a
good deal maligned upon this point by interested parties in
Canterbury, and again through the medium of a particular
channel in town, and he had hitherto felt a delicacy in ex-
plaining theoznatter, thinking it beter to have it thoroughly
sifted id atl•ihunal like the preterit:- •
;rive crofs-examination had slot terminated when the Com-
mittee rose, and it was adjourned till Tursday, Mr.
Macgregor having to preside at the South-Eastern meeting
to-morrow.
The Committee adjourned at five o'clock till twelte o'clock
to-morrow (this day).

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GROUP Xll.
This Committee assembled to-day at twelve o'clock, in
Room 25; the lion. Mr. Lascelles in the chair.
LYNN AND ELY (EXTENSION TO BURY

ST. EDMUND'S.)
This was the first Bill proceeded with, which is an ex-
tension line from the Lynn and Ely Railway to Bury St.
Mr. Sergeant IVRANGRAM opened the case for the pro-,
moters, explaining the merits of the scheme, which he de-
scribed to be free from engineering difficulties. It was
twenty-three miles in length, and was estimated to cog
830,000/.
Several witnesses were examined as to the expected traffic
on the line, which was described to be very gre.d. It would
be the means of affording accommodation to an important
agricul: ural district.
Mr. Valentine deposed to the engineering peculiarities of
the line, which he represented to be very favourable. The
curves were light, and the heaviest gradient was one in 165.
The works generally were light, and would be easily con-
structed within the estitnetes.
This was the case for the promoters.
Mr. Sergeant KINGLARE was heard on the part of certain
petitioners against the line, after which the Committee ad-
journed till to-morrow at twelve o'clock.

STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE.
The Committee on Standing Orders met yesterday at the
usual hour for the dispatch of public business. The greater
portion of the day was occupied in the consideration of the
case of the North British Railway. The following were the
decisions announced :

:NORTH BRITISH (No. 2).
Allowed to proceed.
COVENTRY, BANBURY, AND OXFORD JUNCTION
RAILII AY.

Allowed to proceed.

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS.
(From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.)
MONDAY, MARCH 15.
_

The undernamed Railway Bill was presented, read a first
time, and ordered to be read a srcond time:—
Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ardrossan (Amendment, De-
viations, and Branches, &c.)—" to enable the Glasgow, Kil-
marnock, and Ardrossan Railway Company to make certain
Branch Railways, and to make certain Deviations from the
line and levels of the said Railway, and to amend the Act
relating to the said Railway."
The following Railway Bills were read a second time, com-
mitted, and referred to the Committee of Selection :
Midland (Mangotsfield to Bath).
Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock (Branches at Port Glasgow.).
Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock (Branch to the Caledonian
Railway and Diversion of Canal).
Parkgate and Chester and Birkenhead Junction.

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STANDING DRIe
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The following
the above Committee
1. That the Committee having •
considered the special
report made by the Examiners on the Kilmarnock and Ayr'
Direct Railway petition, are of opinion that, with reference
to the facts therein stated, the standing orders have been
complied with; and that with reference to the non-com-
pliance stated in the7re?ort of the said Examiners, they are
of opinion that the standing orders ought to be dispensed
with, and that the parties be permitted to proceed with their
Bill, with the exception of that part which enables them to
make a Branch of about two furlongs in length, in order to
effect a junction between the Main lane and the proposed
Glasgow and Belfast Union Railway, and on the insertion of
a Clause, restraining them from taking, for the purposes of
the Branch Line to the Harbour of Ayr, the properties
' numbered 120, 122, and 123, in the parish of Newton-upon-
Ayr, and also from interfering with the roads numbered 119
in,d 121 in the same pariah, without the consent of all parties
interested therein respectively.
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2. That in the case of the Dublin Improvement petition,
the standing orders ought to be dispensed with :--That the
parties be [ ermined to proceed with • heir Bill, with the ex-
ception of those parts which enable them to
.purchase or take
by compulsion, either the property comprised in Schedule
(E) annexed to the Bill, or any property for the improve-
ment of any of the existing streets, lanes, or passages within
the borough of Dublin, or to vest, by compulsion, the Dublin
Royal Exchange, together with the powers, duties, rights,.
and liabilities of the trustees thereof, in the Corporation of
Dublin.

3. That in the case of the Waterford, Wexford, Wicklow,
and Dublin Railway (Repeal of Act) petition, the standing
orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the partieP be
permitted to proceed with their Bill on inserting the notices
for three successive weeks in some newspaper published in
the county of Kilkenny.
That the Committees on the three preceding Bills do exa-
mine, in the first place, how far such orders have been com-
plied with ; and do report the same to the House on the re-
port of the Bill.
4. That in the case of the Waterford and Limerick Rail-
way petition for leave to feed the Bill a second time, the
sessional order ought to be dispensed with :—That the par-
ties be permitted to read their Bill a second time on giving
due notice thereof in the Private Bill-office.
5. That in the case of the Edinburgh and Northern Rail-
way (Branch from Burntisland to Dunfermline Branch, &c.
—No. 2) petition, for leave to deposit a petition for a Bill,
the standing orders ought to be dispensed with :—That the
parties be permitted to deposit a petition for a Bill to enable
the Edinburgh and Northern Railway Company to make_
deviation and extension Of their Branch Railway to
_Derm
Dun-
fermline, to make another Railway from their Stragtd
to
Deviation Railway to the Scottish Central Railw
•a- 'the said
make an alteration in the manner of constructing
and
Branch and Strathearn Deviation across certain roads
the Halbeath Railway.
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6. That in the case of the Edinburgh and
a
Monk-
laud anti Kirkintillock, Ballochney a
Amalgamation, Sale, or Lease petition, to read the Bill a
read their Bill a second
ordertted
to
sessionalLecrohnodtttihmee,patlii.teie:
Gravesendereof in the Private Bill-office.
of the emetary petition, for
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7. That in the case
time on giving due nonce b pecremth ought to be dispensed with: