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Australia, but after a certain time he found that thr
colony was evidently in a state of bankruptcy, and withota
the means of paying a large bill which had been drawn upon
the Commissioner by the Governor of South Australia ; they
then represented the matter to the Colonial Office, and
the considerable obligations they were under, as well
account of this till as for ships for the purpose of emigra-
tion. The Chancellor of the Exci4equee, to whom he
applied on the subject, immediately saw the Colony might
be driven to great distress by the sudden stoppage of these
bills, and declared himself ready to to propose to Parlia-
ment, in conjunction with him(laordtJo.,
they, Russell), to raise a
treat sum of money by way of loan. However,
tallen the markets were applied
the State el the colony,
for this purpose, and a considerable doubt was entertained
as to the manner in which it was to be applied. Ile had
previously stated that it was his intention to bring the
declined
to advance
an consideringc e money
question under the consideration of Parliament. He
owned his impression certainly was that it was not ne-
cessary to alter those Acts of Parliament. Ile would not
now say whether the general principle on which they were
based was sound or not ; but he thought it must be ad-
niitted that many provisions of those Acts were so incon-
venient, so lettered the colony on the one band, and en-
couraged expense on the other, that it would be impossi-
ble the colony could continue longer without some change.
lie, therefore, moved for a Select Committee on Acts re-
lating to South Australia.
Lord M A HON had received communications from per-
sons connected with the Australian colonies and well ac-
quainted with their circumstances and interests, who con-
sidered the Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) had acted
upyn information exceedingly defective. At a meeting
held et Hobart Totvn on the 29th of April, 1840, resolu-
tions were unanimously passed deprecating die changes
that had been made in the system of convict labour by the
Orders in Council, and expressing apprehensions that the
most disastreus consequences would ensue from the aboli-
tion of the system of assignment. A petition from that
meeting was laid before the Governor, Sir John Franklyn,
founded on the resolutions, to which he replied that he
could not depart from the Orders, although he did not think
they were well advised, and he did not believe that there
was anything in the previous system in consequence of
which a respectable family of emigrants would be exposed
to any contamination. The Noble Lord opposite did not
seem to have been perfectly satisfied with Ilia own measures.
Indeed he (Lord Mahon) thought the question was one
of greater doubt and difficulty than many persons in this
country were aware of. He would be happy himself to
give as cry assistance his power towards the passing of a
measure for the satisfactory regulation of these colonies.

Lord STANLEY wished to put a question to which he
hoped the Noble Lord (John Russell) would be able to
give a sAisfactory answer. He thought that cases were
very rare in which the Colonial Secretary should delegate
to a Committee of that House the duties of his own office.
He would not say that such cases did not sometimes arise ;
but he hoped that as all the information necessary to assit
the Committee in their judgment was already in the pos-
session of the Noble Lord, he would not throw the whole
subject before them for inquiry, but that he would lay be-
fore them the information which he possessed, and ask
their advice upon the views of the Government.
Lord J. RUSSELL agreed with the Noble Lord as to
the general principle that the government of the Colo-
nies should not be delegated to Select Committees.
But the Colony of Australia formed a case by itself. It
was not t stablished by the Crown but by an Act of Par-
liament, which certainly the Government had supported,
and lie thought a Committee might properly he appointed
to see what had been the effect of that Bill. But it was
his intention that either he himself or the Under Secre-
tary for the Colonial Department should lay before the
Committee the general views of the Government upon the
subject. Ile did not think that convict labour was alto-
gether objectionable, but certainly he considered the system
of assignment, as nearly as possible, a system of slavery.
Mr. HUME was satiAed that the Noble Lord could
relieve himself from a great deal of labour and greatly be-
nefit the Colonies, by allowing them to govern themselves,
and to elect the persons who should manage their affairs.
Motion agreed to.
LAW REFORM.

Sir F. POLLOCK obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
amend the law relating to double costs, notices of actions,
limitations of actions, and pleas of the general issue,
under certain Acts of Parliament; and also a Bill to allow
a writ of error in all cases of judgment upon mandamus.
PUBLIC PETITIONS.

On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, a Com-
mittee on Public Petitions was nominated, consisting of
Mr. George William Wood, Sir Robert Ptel, Mr. O'Con-
nell, Sir Robert Harry IrgliF, illr. l3rotherton, Sir El-
ward Knatchbull, Mr. Clay, Mr. Wilson Patten, Mr. Ed-
ward Buller, Mr. Greene, Sir William Ileathcote, Mr.
Freshfield, Mr. Yates, and Mr. William John Blake.
TITHES.

Mr. BROTHERTON, on the part of Mr. Baines,
who was absent, moved for a return of all agreements for
the commutation of tithes which have been confirmed by
the Tithe Commissioners, from the Ist day of July 1840,
to the Ist (14 of January 1841 (in continuation of the
Order of last Session, No. 646), which was ordered.
TIIE STANDING ORDERS.

Mr. ESTCOURT moved for the appointment of a
Select Committee on the Standing Orders, to consist of
Mr. Estcourt, Sir Edward Kaatchbull, Sir James Graham,
Sir Montague Chapman, Mr. William Miles, Sir Thomas
Fremantle, Mr. Wilson Patten, Lord Viscount Sandon,
Mr. Pendarves, Sir Robert Price, Sir George Strickland,
Mr. Pringle, Sir Matthew Wood, Mr. Sanford, and Mr.
Wilbraham.
Sir C. GREY wished to £raw the- attention of the
House to the slovenly and artificial manner in which the
Orders were drawn up. The same Orders were so often
repeated, under a different head, that a friend of his re-
mai ked that so many repetitions were only to be found in
a song V, ith an old burden.
After a few words in explanation from Mr. EST-
CO U RT, the motion was agreed to.
Lord ASHLEY then moved an Address to her Ma-
jesty, praying that she will be graciously pleated to direct
that the Commission appointed, in answer to an Address
of this House on August, 4, 1840, for the investigation of
certain branches of infant labour, do include within its in-
quiry that also of young persons according to the limit
fixed by the definition of the Factory Act. The Noble
Lord said that ho would not then dwell on the nature of the
motion, as he understood it would not be opposed by her
Majesty's Ministers. He nould, however, take that op-
portunity of expressing his high sense of the zeal and
ability manifested by the Commissioners during the in-
quiry. He was sure, too, as the Hon. Member the Under
Secretary for the Home Department had mentioned on a
former occasion, that that inquiry had bad the most sooth-
ing effects, and had given almost unmitigated satisfaction.
Mr. BROTHERTON seconded the motion.
The motion was agreed to.
RAILWAY BILL.

On the motion of Mr. LABOUCHERE the Railway
Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second

time on to-morrow (this da'c) fortnight.
The House then adjourned at a Quarter to Eleven
& Clock.

LORD STANLEY'S REGISTRA-

TION BILL.

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The following statement is an analysis of the Votes of the
Minority on the question, •4 That leave be given to bring in a
Bill to amend the laws relating to the Registration of Voters
in Ireland," show ii the component parts of which that small
Marty was formed

ENGLAND.

Counties
J3orouglis

.... 36
-39

WALES.
Nil.
SCOTLAND.

Counties
Boroughs

- 5

DELANIT"

Counties ... ...... 18
Boroughs
Total Minority... —7l
The following Alembers, who usually vote with Ministers,
voted for leave being given to bring in this Bill :
Attain, Rear-Adm. Sir L.—Clack. Handley, Ilenry—Lincolnshire
inannan Labouchere, !tight Hon. Hein y
Baring, F. .r.—Portsmouth Taunton
13ellew, R. 'M.—Louth Loch, James—Kirkwall
Bernal, Ralph—Rochester Macauley, T. 8.-Edinburgh
Bowes, John—South I)urham Melgund, Viscount -ilythe
Buller, Sir E. L.—Linqolii . Morpeth, Lord—Yorkshire
t7Ampbell, Sir John—FAnnburg,c iltlorris, D.—Carmarthen
Chalmers, l'atrick—lnverbervie. Muskat. George A.—St. Alban'e
Clay, winium—Tower Hamlet!.
it.-1-:Nil.lratKrhtlia—lnteoon:ll
Childers, John w.—Staltor,.. • O'Ferrall,
Is
ill ': r'ingyr;:m:' tie: Parnell,
l':taS:i'George—Cambridger‘liri.ht - - I)nd e e
Currie, Bailees—Northampton Ps,\,.‘tltii,iisilli.,(iiiciceiisty,:ljE.l\L John—North
Joint—Stroud
Divert, Edward—Exetcr
Surrey, Earl of—West Sussex
Fort, J.—Clitheroe
1 ail:slue:el: Awl ri.llSieanrimit,armltoeat da ihng
,11t tN,2Cu,',ld. :err:- i. i r e
Gii:::\i‘yit.,,,ti.ijo:,:iirrlin:,,lts,,‘llvi
j(i..,be:Ginr...El:—Newport,
of
111:Nol:o,ht:trilt'ii:gel:TR.m\igvh:Gl.i:uli:b je:::
v'r:sl,ll:::::.:.:_'aNmobrrti:agittioren
Hoskins, K.—Herefordshire
ti w , , . ,
4t3h,eby which state-
proposition their
lould have been car-
ielming majority, as
Hutt, W.—Hull
mmri
eoe'dltot
nt,iagttrla,elis,.:AilullistoibnuAeisisit,s:eiepirtip,siie;oarnssti!tli
jaaotthinied,bi
axtrbthys,uetapii,nnpeoyorottgi‘ocie,nrrs,:n,.
under :
Alinority .................................... 7 t
Ministers and Supporters ........... .. ... 43

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leaving for the Bill
218

• . 104
in of Lord
Alasjioar,iltiyeyf,osr
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UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE.

ONFOItD, Fan 2.--In a convocation holden this day the
following gentlemen were nominated by the proctors to
accompany his Grace the Chancellor and the Vice-Chan-
cellor of the University, at the presentation of loyal and
dutiful addresses to her Most Gracious Majesty, to Prince
Albert, and to her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent,
on this birth of a Princess Roy
a1,.0n Thursday next:—
Doctors in Divinity.—Dr. Gilbert, Principal of Brase-
nose ; Dr. Hawkins, Provost of Oriel; Dr. Symons.
Warden of Wadham; Dr. Jelf, Canon of Christ Church.
Doctors of La'''.—Dr. Marsham, Warden of Merton ;
Dr. Williams, Warden of New College.
Doctors of :Medicine,,—Dr. Bissett Hawkins, Exeter;
Dr. Goolden, Queen's.
Masters of Arts.—Mr. Wilson, St. John's, l'rofeszor of
Anglo-Saxon; Mr. Walker, Wadham, Reader in Experi-
mental Philosophy; Mr. Wilson, Exeter, Professor of
Sanscrit ; Mr. Eden, Fellow of Oriel.
willa one o'clock. proceed from Willis's Rooms in
K i Theog-s t rdecelte,
delegates cils a 1
f.
past

Mr. J. Beal. fdovernment Superintendent of Fac-
tories, f. ummoned Mr. James Ogden, a vroollen-manufac-
turer, at Rot h laic, for improperly employing children, and
nuontdeprrol.:3ue
yienagr:oor aligeers, ofoartte:bdiaenbeei\ailtr.scoghoodle, they being
n
has been
finod el, and coits,