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Member had received--(Loud cries of " Oh, oh.") 'Neither IAT a numerous andieepe
the Hon. and Learned ;Member, nor any person on that side of of Mr. AINSWORTH'S* SUPPORTtI,
the IlouLe ha:l. nry-•,!^•' • ~_ .. •
opinion upon the question ti,at had been put. to him.
Mr. EWART rose to address the Corareittee, but was met
with loud cries of " Order," " Chair," and a variety of noises
of the most deafening description, which rendered it impossible
to catch a single observation.
Mr. FRESHFIELD begged to know if the Hon. Member
spoke to order?
Mr. EWART did speak to order. He understood the
question to be between the Chairman and the Hon. and
Learned Member for Dublin.—(Cries of " No," and great
uproar.) if by any singular good fortune the attention of the
Chairman bad been called to the interruption which the
Hon. and Learned Member had received before he made his
observations, he weelid have cellcd to order those who inter-
rupted him, and not the Hun, and Learned Member.—(Cheers,
followed by cries for Mr. O'Connell.)
Mr. C. Beller, Lord Maidstone, Mr. O'Connell, end two
other Hon. Members rose at the same time, all etieleaeoter-
ing to catch the attention of the Chairman amidst loud cries
of " Order, Chair," and uproer. The other Hon..Mernbers
having given way,
Mr. -C. BULLER said he did not eeieh Nn tinue the
present very distressing discussion. Such proceadinies es 4;..d.
lost ita's.en place must lower and degrade them in the eyes of
the patelia...-Cries of " Oh, oh," and cheers.) Vet ho pest
impress on the Chairman, and all those who presided ieeer
these discussions, diet it was useless to put down those who,
like the Hon, and Learne4 Member for Dublin, transgressed
the limits of decorum by resenting insults, unless their atten-
tion to insults of the grossest nature-ekleend and eellement
cheering),.-.that he had ever sawn an assembly of gentlemen,
or persons in the conelitien of gentlemen, pet up vtith.
;Renewed cheering.) He would toeetiele an in-
stance a the interreptious that had been lee:seed
by the opposite side of the Hoee.^. during the whole evening.
For the whole evening he had heee,el ,eieeetebers.—(Loud cries
of " Name, name.") kle did not think he ee4d name the
Hon. Member, ,or the Noble hear.) [rip had
heard different Members on his Ojr. Side of
;he
House, and eiarti'cularly the Hun. and keezetail ;liember for
Dublin, interrupted by whistling and singing.,-,(Mee. i ebeere
ing. ) 4id"not wish to offer any personal anspltt but he
must say that thoee who first brought those mannee.; into the
House disgraced thomeelves by introducing the manners
of the ale-house into the House of Commune, and that
the House must be very patient with these who resented thci n-
salts in a manner which he was sorry to say es, es too much
called for, and too appropriate to the insulte.—(Cbeere.)
Lord CLF,„I.IENTS said the lion, and Learned Member
bre! complained :bit the Bill was calculated to take away the
liberties of Ireland—lee eenfessed he thought so too. When
the lion. and Learned Menefee mentioned that once, it was re-
ceived with an indecent shout which 47"i4 a disgrace to that
pi„„„...._(Rege, and cheers.) That was noted ; for Mem-
bers who remained standing on the floor of the House le4lied
outright at him, 34 within a yard or two of his face.—
(Hear, hear.) The ttee,eerable and Learned Member,
who exhibited the greatest tempee, repeated the expressions
which were received with the same initebe. The third time
the same insults were repeated, and it was only owe ithet he
made use of the expression complained of. He (Lord-Cle-
ments) felt like an Irishman et each conduct, and he always
would feel indignant at it.—(Cries of ft ffl; ph," and cheers.)
He did not care what assembly he was in, whether en assembly
of gentlemen, or those who were not gentlemen ; I?qe he
would not submit to have insults offered to a countryman of his
when complaining that the liberties of his country were about
to be taken away. He did not thiedt that any gentleman had a
right to stand on the floor of the House, wifhin q. yard or two
of any Hon. Member, and hoot and laugh in hid f4pg, le
trusted the House would not disgrace itself by such conduct.—
(Cries of " Oh," and loud cheers.)
Lord MAIN) TONE said until the Hon. Member who had
used the word " beastly" had retracted that expression he
would not be satisfied.
Mr. O'CONNELL was perfectly eontent with the Noble
Lord's dissatisfaction. When a shout had been raised against
him, the Chairman did not interfere to protect him.—( Hear,
hear.) The interruption occurred a second and a third time,
and still the Chairman did not interfere. He then vindicated
himself as the Chairman had not done so. The Hon. Baronet
(Sir Stratford Canning) hail also preserved the most exem-
plary patience as long as the shouts were directed against
him, but the moment he repelled that shout in mo-
derate terms—(Cries of " Oh, oh")—the Honourable Baronet
called hint to order. He would repeat that the Pill was in-
tended and calculated to take from the Irish people the advan-
tages of the Reform Bill, and the advantages of the Catholic
Emancipation Act. The Noble Lord (Lord Stanley) has
long been the enemy of Irelandeee( Cries of " Order " and
" Chair.")
Sir STRATFORD CANNING said that the Hop. and
Learned Gentlemen in explaining the circumstances which had
induced him to use a very unparliamentary expression, which
bad fallen from him, had said what was certainly very unbe-
coming.

ROIICItT iIEYI4OOI),.t.ICi.; iti tht

Mr.O'CONNELL spoke to order. Were the expressions
of the Noble Lord in order ?—( Uproar.) The Hon, 13i ronet
had pointed his observations particularly at him.—(Cries of
" Order, order," and " Chair.")
The CHAIRMAN said that he hoped that Hon. Members
would consider that sufficient explanation had been given on
the subject,—(oh, oh.)
Sir S. CANNING had understood the Hon. and Learned
Member for Dublin to say that the intentions and motives of
the Noble Lord were to trample on the liberties of the j eorle
of Ireland. He objected to such expressions ; but his only
desire was to consult the honour of the House.

Mr. O'CONNELL—There is nothing in what the Hon.
Baronet has said—it is not worth attending to.
The CHAIRMAN said that it certainly was not proper to
impute motives to any Member of the House.
Mr. O'CONNELL hoped that he might be allowed to
proceed.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The objects of the Bill were
tyrannical and despotic. He said that the Noble Lord had long
been the enemy of Ireland, and hecould produce the authority
of a Nobleman of the highest character in support of that as-
sertion. For his part he would take every means of opposing
the further progress of the Bill. He would oppose any motion
for giving priorty to it on Monday ; and if it WCI e pi oposed by
the Noble Lord (.1. Russell) to give it priority on Wednesday
no concession of the Noble Lord could influence other Members
of the House.

Sir H. H. INGLIS said that the expression " beastly" had
been used, and he thought the House should not proceed with
any other business till it was withdrawn.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he had been quite
satisfied with the opinions given by the Chairman; who
stated the expression of the Hon. Member for Dublin,
was disorderly, and who afterwards, on hearing the statement
of various Members, said that he considered enough had been
said in explanation. It was to be regretted that that was not
the first time that Members had met with disorderly interrup-
tions while speaking. He did not think, after the tone of the
discussion, that there could be any useful progress made in any
respect during that evening. On Monday he would proceed,
as Governments hitherto had done, with the Government busi-
ness, and he would oppose the Noble Lord if be proposed to in-
terfere with that arrangement.

Sir B. HALL objected to repeated adjournments of the
House. He would never suffer a factious opposition to any
measure which might be brought forward by Hon. Members on
the other side of the House. 1f the Hon. and Learned Member
for Dublin intended to propose an adjournment of the House,
he would feel it his duty to vote against him. He hoped the
Nob'e Lord (Lord J. Russell) would give priority to the Bill
of the Noble Lord opposite, in order that it might be fairly dis-
cussed by the House. He thought that it would be unworthy
of the independent Members of the House to offer a factious
opposition to a full consideration of the measure. He hoped
the Noble Lord would not bring forward his motion on a Go-
vernment night, but, on any other night, he would certainly
feel it his duty to vote that it should have priority of any other
motion.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. O'CONNELL did not expect that the lion. Baronet
would speak of his opposition as factious. There might be
factious opposition, but there might also be factious acquies-
cenc.?.

Sir B. HALL—If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman will
speak in distinct and intelligible terms I shall be able to un-
derstand him. All I state is, that I will not be a party
to a factious opposition, and if I End that adjournments are
repeatedly moved and continued to be moved, 1 shall have no
hesitation in stating, that whoever persists in doing so is pur-
suit-3g' a factious opposition.—(Loud cheers on the Opposition
benches. )

Mr. O'CONNELL to:d the Hon. Member for Marylebene
to listen to the cheers he had received.—( Hear, hear.) Ile
believed he understood the Hon. Baronet. He would leave
the Hon. Baronet to his own feelings.
The question having been put and carried,
The CHAI/nIAN reported progress, and obtained leave
to sit again.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at Half-past One.

TING
bid at

It was resolved, with only three disieritierit;
That
Ainsworth's Letter of Exple.tiation is altogetlief
respects his vote on Lord Stanley's ifisii Begistra•
t
,3sirbe. eause it contains no sufficient reason§ to Justify his
unsatisfactory
Bill,
slt.
eisrt
iiolAn
l
of the party who uniformly support Reforing.d e, rinejplga
in the House of Commons; because the pFofesseStre 41 4,0
rid of " fraudulent and vicious" votes, cannot justify the
Lion of a national wrong, such as would be done by this Dill,
founded on the basis of disfranchiF.ement, and throwin7 cyery
conceival4e ot;sti,:cf4 i,a ttie wty of 14 'o,9q.
the reeoe,ery and mainteparice of his electoral rights beeause
a Bill filled with such rettrietive provHOnS lOW I'Vet)lved; as
Mr. Ainsworth implies, SatiCia,On o, the Reformers—the
design of the Bills of 1835, 1836, and 1838, brought in by the
(ipxcii,ui--,,-:nt-b,eiurr to expand, and not to contract,Vi-tR f4Ol-Tg
franc‘4lSe 4.60.
.11g1 --As ceneerns the Weaver Navigation Churches Bill,
bear the redundant wealth of the Weaver Trust forms no
justification for misappropriating public funds and committing
an act of injustice under the plea of Religion i because the sue-
p',43 funds of that corporation ought either to be handed over
to the 4(4ootion Rf the ccvnty rates, or to the repiwtipli at
the dues chargeable on the naviitation ; because to apply those
fuJ;ds to the building of churches is to public property for
the benefit of 4. pry and because large meetings of the Mho,
bitants of Cheshire," t ncluding the haTgevnen and boatmen on
the river, have declared the measure to he unnecessary and
unjust.
itp3oive4,,,Ttlat this fies9lutiorl be r4lished the poltoA
papers, the )I4nAeqer quardian, the Leeds Mercury, and the
London Sun.

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