The Sun.
London, England, 1841-02-26 00:00:00

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agitation
n ei
teabttieodn for their
lo °P e r 13„.s ?oble‘ if:
tivcs of Ireland, but he would ask if they• rather '''
to theseainsflueinace
What was it, then, which induced the
to bring forward this measure ? Was it not because the 1:4)
Lord was threatened with the withdrawal of the support to'
Hon. Member for Dublin, and of the more Radical Mewl,
who acted with him, unless he brought forward some 5,1,e 0.,,,il
sure as that which was then before the House ? he l'e°_, 6
thoaft House ra,ibile,
Learned Member for Dublin its writing to his constituen ,
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the introduction of the Bill, had used expressions in redie2s:o;
to his Noble Friend, which he (Mr. Shaw) would 02tbi,1,(0
the House by repeating, and the language of the il° teio
and the Right Hon Gentlemen the SeCiefasY at %,re'issd,
to encourage such language. The Right 0011. Gev,
ore 0
Secretary at War, had:referred to the arming of kr;,,s 0,
reason for the passing of the measure ; his langua,", :'‘ v
France was arming while they were disfranch,ooi,
pulling down bulwarks. Perhaps some Hon. Gentlenwo i
think that that was not strong enough for a Member ref
Majesty's Government. But the sentiment was inIPTAe hat
at the Corn Exchange in Dublin. M Barret sa'' that
r.
"sh r-
Lord Stanley's Bill should pass, eight millions of Iri a fp'
would exclaim " France and the people, not England a:' do
tion. "—( Hear, hear.) Circumstances may make gre% 10
rence in the language of Hon. Members, particularlY ' 1,6,
of the Hon. Gentleman the Secretary of War. 12°112er'
was—.
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" A patriot bursting with heroic rage:
he had since been of
" A placeman all tranquillity and sluilTeit the ,feet/
deeollp
Now when danger seemed to be appreheteded, wbe ocejan'jac
of office were about to recede from his graq' ones, 2'
dangers to Ireland, he east his eye back to old s
told them of " wars, and rumours of wars,"
" With all the prettiness of fond alarm,
And anger insignificantly fierce. eetlel'at
—(Cheers.) He believed, however, that those
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reckoned without their host. He was persuaded ttlT„,
insai.e attempt were made, there would be found a p Ss;
jority of every class in Ireland, including Protestantsar',"to
man Catholics, who would be faithful to the lawsi, Zta
Crown of this realm.—(Loud cheers. ) hat was
viction.—(Continued cheering.) The Bill befor...f.. depar
was a violation of the Catholic Emancipation
ture from the principles of the Reform Bid. Th 'llOO
Gentleman to whom he had already referred had ortioabtt'4
a warm eulogium upon his own loyalty. He didnn, but
the lion. Gentleman was now a passing loyal Ina d. arid bri:;l
had been other times. There was a distinguishe yon
liant orator, who, when a Royal Prince was 13ri:tter
death-bed, had used a figure of speech the s
pungent than the swamping of the House of Lords_e °' „off',
ft
mersion of the Royal George.—( Hear, hear.) of the
believed that on that occasion the excited passions ,_„„se
°1
the Gentleman carried him beyond what he would °`
the o'4
expressed, and he would forbear, therefore, to (Pe by 541',1
—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman concluded tottelo
that it this Biil passed it would confer the electir_eer eater
upon thousands and tens of thousands who were nev
plated by the Reform Bill. bleb 11.0
Mr. O'CONNELL said that the solemn duty ti
to perform would not allow him to enter into auY-ouleces
discursive commentary upon the speech rend- ergot
the the Right Honourable Gentleman. He Ivo& t 0,
the House to recollect his allegation
one half of the population of Ireland, more than i°,le,titsti
of peopls, were in a state of poverty approaching t° as set,/
He stated that fact, and he read documents to lir° ssitOree
raey ; and that he had also indulged in a very warmn,' est elify
and elegant eulogium upon Irish landlords. The I,a°' be
lent landlords in the world, and four millions and a
caeca 14,
population in a state of poverty ! Let them retitle'o
these two facts were stated by the Right He°. r
Whether they were quite consistent with each Milton lie3fs
leave the English people to determine.—( Hear, me of tat
The Right Hon. Gentleman had introduced the t'a celbf
Richard Barrett, and had referred to a speech Ormui,al%
gentleman. Mr. Richard Barrett was a Protesessidt'k
man, and his (Mr. O'Connell's) friend; he P11.'0019,0'
talent, and when he was assailed he was able to be
He (Mr. O'Connell) did not shrink from avowing "Ts ifeuoi
his personal friend. Before he proceeded further o; seeig
refer to a petition which was presented two daft agfrere bee,
the most successful methods of preventing a petitleinefeare" r
attended to was to get it read from the table.--.)00 reit
hear.) He would therefore read two or 't itoarrl,o4
graphs to the House, because be thought it meet Yoe
that English gentlemen and Scotch gentlemen, ,e'srti-octlS
as were opposed to them, should understand oi atia tl:
were the feelings and opinions of' the Iri nation ,
Mr. Barrett might, perhaps, have been "Infer! „0
length that he went, let them take care that thersch ttori,
others, and many of the same opinion, in ireilatntheses,
much more important for them to understand w° ceisfy
nions were than to comment upon them, or eveutee
them in that House. This petition was Orlen
Hon. Member for the county of Limerick. "u, II iirtet°
stated that although they were most true and loi, eat,
legianee to the Crown, they could not forget that Isr $
the country had been held and governeli,
quered ar.d enslaved province ; that the ,IP"s 0044;
endured every form of wrong, studied insult, alt,egiewif
oppression that the most sanguinary and unhollistieelscl
secution that ever disgraced a Christian land had °Fla* 41
sternly upheld by English rule against the Irish Pea,,,eoetss
petitioners then went on to state that they b,ataieing,e,"
portion of their rights from their governors by 0l.”-tilt
liamentary Reform. That notwithstanding the ins Infe
justice of the Legislature to the people of Ireland, t.iiiesPot
ercised their political privileges for the interests of and
for the securing good and impartial governroce The l it
peace and prosperity of the whole empire. statile/lter
limners stated that the plea used by Lord kiess „pee'
introducing his Bill, was a wilful and I,ee, eteWl
hood, and implored the House not on nu'ti erits;ler
to deprive the Irish people of their rights au.,„jeenl.
and in conclusion called upon the House to pause fai,t/
whether, in the present state of the poorer classes I raSelote
and the general political aspect of Europe, it w.,a'„1:011-,
a formal and insulting denial of equal laws ani"
to force every man to admit that his country anucrogian d tte
'
have no hope of justice or protection from
(Mr. O'Connell) perceived at the foot of this. ray e'e
name of a gentleman with whom he was excess (peese• top
quainted, he was, in fact, Vicar-General of the
more
more exemplary clergyman did nut live. He `c..„3; le;
the highest intellectual and spiritual at'aitre:seLf'-o
ascetic piety. That gentleman had called upol!,'"- 04"%e°,
pare a petition of that description, and he Oirs'
brought it before the House, and read it to t' ",/ the seti',
order to give them a notion of what the sentimenynt'o" pee, 'reet
people were.re,pecting their present position.up
ton was from a different part of the country---"` SO"' IV
but. two paragraphs. It appeared also to hieteae.) beaf
by a Catholic clergyman.—( Hear, hear, ,t WO,l
had performed a task which he thought it el'if
upon him to discharge, in order to show that caterta ed'
were not those of a solitary individual, but were or Ire,
generally, he might almost say, by the COp% eereed
They were well aware of what was going on, 1„ ear. aft
ignorant as they had been represented by t seUl-tel/P
corder, whom he was glad to see in such excelleni of I or
his recent misfortunes.—( Laughter. ) The Pe°P ft tiple;
understood the question perfectly—they knew that.ce the Thai
ther that House would pass a measure to exting°ll-ci it•
toise_t
chise in Ireland altogether, or one that would extfousee°..
that was the real and solid question before the hanv clePoole
be disguised from common sense, and it was el t far entlo;
this Bill would extend the franchise, though e° niebtort',
and that would extinguish it for ever. Ile salon
Baronet said, "Fight your battles is the registrk., it', t't
The Noble Lord, by his Bill, intended to in 3 `siellt fore.,
ble for one to register, and well might the all '1;1, 01.)
Baronet say, " fight your battles in a field wherthieed.cheer''.o',
are ready, and from which our enemies ire sred:
was an English act of hostility towards -Ire'''. fOr, 3r,3
The Hon. and Learned Sergeant, the Mei x)herra J
elergelciia
_,
boasted that a majority of the English 11400`'eTie 111;t
the Bill—he made that a boast, and yet he erese-sa)'
Irishman.—(Loud cheers.) He would Make 3 $ Or"
to any one who would take the trouble of runnit'Wesn, eere,
Ii m.--(Laughter,) The people of Ireland 1014 siss 4,0/
long enough and often enough, but the present v and jit)'
et
insult than any, for it mixed up religious feelingri of lors?
along with its polities. That was not a questietries w sous
the world was listening to them—foreign couun, theYefser,is
paying the regard to the details of registraimor eb ofte..;
understand the question itself—they would tot 04 eel:{
was discussed under pretence, or whether it wasrtb, • sce,,t
and like Englishmen. All the nations of the earth,
certainly deeply interested in the welfare of thi'saetst!lis 0"°`:„1
fully understand the question. France would u-1100.1`cts t
present position—Spain would understand lts'i-ta °b e"
understand it—and America would understand,: but of
its termination.. They had heard it whisperen itaislat cou,,
to speak out boldly, for. he stood there the stiEeeee tad, 051,
Irish people—he stood there proud of having eVioisl'e(gesrS;
tidence for forty years, and that it was not oei Eli
probably at that moment, it was being strength
~70. acksiv.
The Vice-President of the Board of Trade, "P 4 line:a I.ot
lishman—( Laughter)—he begged his pardon Tosetarlot a b'he
Irishman—had given them a distinct hint—the.% distinct yet 0•
had given them a very distinct hint, almost "-jos
_„a° tail:jo-
ss he (Mr. O'Connell) could have wished tent Sec' cooet
was taunted for it.—(Hear, hear.) Was heo/0 tuleeoilit'et,
War, and was
.it not his business to prepares t be" see" er
geney ?—(Laughter.) They might sneer, bee°,t he,ote
might be at war, and then his advice, which na toigy 0,,
he e
would soon be followed. He cared not how arire nth,
lumniated. He stood there as sincerely to pre-oiong-to
th,
nection between the two countries as any r°,l'etest ace to issee'
convinced, as he was, that it might of the g-- danger eV° 0'
and that it could not be severed without gre:"oh de,' co: of
He differed with them as to the mode in s, ratlirtsa for
tion was to be carried—he thought that
ch stio_aer
it e
not the proper plate to legislate for Irelan„ .;‘11) of
abundantly proved by the speech of the IV the Pore 0.(
Wakefield, who spoke strongly in favour 01 tit.~(col'le
Noble Lord; he had stated he wouldvote seain'ts thesiP it' oat
He admitted that enfranchisement was due 'se the:, it 1,,
Ireland, but he could not bring his mind tocgrotwo, 1.f.0
the House were true in its allegiance to the 0.1001
to' ser, ,0
their first duty to make Ireland the arm of )le, frer",,v
and her firm friend in peace? Did not the
.sers.ese
Liskeard tell them last night that no country („'? Po'iotisea ,0
much from another as Ireland had from Englaecuories..l pleat
of Ireland knew that they had suffered seven 9011 val'ard u`o,
pitfhl foureaaatdmfotahrnatw tash eccephnaatrrugt
party
de
hwaanms hluerrlid:lehr,lrishman'
asa
in at
%gigs
~ioid
tiesaecfnihrioset,htt.,llloll;aepagot:l,lo,,airof t
olv
befebi_sl,tibii:e:bit
any Court to plead that the plaintiff was an ,r_otigh,av
n or
t
felony, and that the same price was paid lu bor.) thee, 4)
tholic as for the head of a wolf.—( forget (Cbe`teen
never,people wkhnileewthalelytwheesree
ttrheiantgeds
as; the}' nwtslasiai.
er
feet Pan
they ,ore
When the popular idol succeeded, and
the English were more sanguinary towards ttice:_oiti co to aid
ever been under any regal tyrant. But he Zig, pelf teeln,as
modern times. He would ask whether the 1' p A
know the financial robbery that was Como
the Act of Union ? At that time thedehttbs
ni'hoishi
four hundred and forty-six millions, wild the io
only twenty millions. They had douhiebt was tioolo to;104
piece. Then, suppose that the Irish deb be !lit liner be
that would give forty millions she csto •
af never
place of being mortgaged for the , it won' est
millions. If Ireland ever became vrealln): pests' lessU'',e
for herself, but for England's taxes atnd,,,lern„ the . b fry`` h•
allow, at soy rate, that they had no.
_fill' of thelr diet 'lty,
prosperity when they were robbi"idgr.e,thi.tn.,e
bse,itieilltedietolt:
on the ground of their poverty. He I,P,Preid tot the lefr the
?hero
at
obtained
jest with more of reluctance, but
_e_eiabte of . o
,ti o
Could the people be contented wit" 71 lohd
fieollre:i
wtihonoleh?a_d(aHeraicrh,
hear.) They
Tehsetaybhliasdlirniate‘
•
of one.' mirth, and since then therefor ;a.
long „
r thef
quillit.y in the country
threw
would
dh etybheat werea,i
whiled ni
toia.t:nyaip agrievancer contented,toftthhaena
iilinid,nlhpte,ol,yiseit.hthtialnde ebiaaoLutsi:ioldeenirittleo:roop,aftrtti,,iihrt:oei;;lt.ite:6::
thank themselves if it boiled over.
clergymenrequisitionthem
o oiknf
f
•
err
t
Reform Pill equal to Englan • , Referrn 111:4,i, I
rayed against tftahahtveeol uiibEtre;:rtftaitbethhlseiesohyfiletidahlv‘lelPCpi nh'rean'el'etllN; 1;1.
tilt
i.
the way to convey the
Again,cmr,h recollectiue,tetah efhlerni
from
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In England every person
to them. Eneland got lrish
ae people
peaCl:e(ePi Corporate n-othremoa ta°, I
3,
the people of Ireland scene insubettaLiti:ger....:}:to.
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