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gird,to the position of this country, he could not but feel that
the restitutions which this country was enabled to make, that
the subsidies which she had granted, was a sufficient guarantee
of the faith which they had professed to keep. When he
looked to the noble post which this country assumed, and
which she had been enabled to maintain—when he recollected ,
that this country had acted as a sea-mark to the whole world,
be felt assured that whatever position she might assume, that
her honour and her principle remained intact. When be
leaked back to the position which she bad taken at the earlier
period of the revolutionary war of France, and at the
.
position which she had assumed afterwards, he felt thisre
mach to be utterly unmerited, and that her disinterestednesswas
wu entirely clear. In making thin candid avowal he
the
perfectly frank in the declaration of his opinions, and d 1
firm belief that after a treaty of thirty years standing that no
infraction ought to have been committed without a previous
announcement to all the parties interested, and
the three
Powers who had been parties to this contract ought not to
have acted without notification to the other great Powers with
whom they were enghged—(ilear, hear)—and
opinion of
nhe
that this was a question amenable to the publicd thought
Europe.—(Cheers.) He greatly questioned the policy which
had been pursued. for he did not believe that it would be wise
to act upon the wild declarations of demagogues rather
than upon the assumptions and deductions of statesmen.
But there did at the same time pervade the intelligence anti
feeling of a great part of the community, a sincere desire to
witness the progress of sober and well considered national
freedom, there had always been felt a strong objection to any-
thing like retrogression!, there was a strong feeling now in ex-
istence which sympathised with one power whose liberality was,
perhaps, least to be expected. There wes a strange desire in
this country to assist the progress of those reforms which were
being carried out by the spiritual power of another country.
and with respect to Cracow it was felt that the three Powers
had violated every principle of intelligence and independence.
The treaty of Vienna, in providing for the freedom of the
town of Cracow, intended to give an example of
a free Polish constitution, and independence. The
Noble Lord opposite had stated that it was impossible
that Poland could be restored to its previous ex-
istence, but he begged to remind the Noble Lord that he
would find in the correspondence of Lord Castlereagh a dis-
tinct suggestion to the Emperor of Russia, that his moral du-
ties would compel him to ameliorate the condition of his
poorest subjects. Now, there was one method by which the
Emperor of Russia could have carried out that suggestion its a
favourable manner, namely, by restoring the Poles to
their rights as an independent community. Lord
Castlereagh conveyed to the Emperor of Russia,
on the part of Austria and Prussia, a dis-
tinct assurance that those Powers would readily acquiesce
in the necessary accomplishment of that object. 'The Noble
Lord would find that the correspondence contained a feeling,
he would not say a condition, that the Emperor of Russia
would give to Poland in a new form something of a national
character. In the treaty of Vienna it was declared that Poles,
who were theesabjects of Austria and Prussia, should obtain
representatire and natio al institutions, to be regulated ac-
eording to the degree of political consideration each of the
Governments to which they belonged should judge expedient
and proper. Whether or not the conduct of the Poles
in 1831 justified the withholding of these national institu-
tions was another miter; but what he contended for
was, that the treaty of Vienna intended that independence and
free Government should be given to the Poles, who were the
subjects of Austria, Prussia, and Russia. He must again sly
that he deeply regretted what had passed. He could not find
any sufficient justification for this conduct with regard to Cra-
cow. He thought the arguments urged in support of the course
were as serious as the course itself, and he heartily approved
of the protest that was entered to it by the Noble Lord. He
thought the Noble Lord acted wisely in deter-
mining the rela•ions in which this country stood with
regard to France to protest on behalf of this country,
in a perfectly separate and independent character.
He concurred in the tenor of the protest, and felt it to be his
d.ty to give to the Government such support as might be found
in the simple expression of his opinion in favour of the course
they had, and were, pursuing.
Sir J. WALSH moved the adjournment of the debate.
Lord J. RUSSELL could not too strengly express his un-
willingness that this debate should be adjourned.—( Hear,
hear.) Because it would be exceedingly injurious to the
carrying on of the public business of the State. They had
before them a meet important question, deeply affecting the
welfare and safety of one portion of the United Kingdom, and
the adjournment of the debate might interfere with its pro.
press. He had repeatedly felt in the past session the greatest
inconvenience from having Bills of great importance deferred
till a late period of the session, when the number of Members
attending the House of Commons was greatly diminished,
while he had felt still more strongly the inconvenience arising
from sending measures to the Upper House of Parliament
when a sufficient number of Peers could nut be found in Lon-
don to attend de:iberattly and properly to the necessary legis-
lation of the country. He therefore objected on
public grounds to this debate being adjourned WI Tuesday.
He thought that the motion of the Hon. Member should not
be allowed to interfere with those great subjects brought tin •
der the consideration of the !louse by the Government with re-
spect to Ireland. He hoped the debate would be continued un.
tit it was decided, and that the House would not come to an
adjou nment,— (Hear, hear.)
M. W. S. O'F%RIEN thought that justice would not be done
to the subject by continuing it at the pres6it time. He had
wished to address the House liimsai upon the subject, arid he
had also had atornmnnication with his Hon. Friend the Member
for Shrewsbury, and several other lion. Members, who had not
yet addressed the House, but wished to do so. He hoped that
the debate would be adjourned, and if the Government were
not disposed to concede that point, he was prepared to divide
the liou-e upon the question of adjournment.
Mr. L A BOUCHERE sac surprised that any argument in
favour of the adjournment of the debate should have come
from the lien. Member for Limerick.—( Cheers. ) The Go-
vernment had be.n accused by that Hon. Member, and other
Irish Members. of doing nothing for Ireland, anti h' certainly
was not prepa-ed to hear any proposition for putting off the
measure proposed by the Government, emanate from the Irish
Members. He thought that it would be most unfortunate,
considering the-pre.ent affairs of Ireland, if the present debate
was adjourned. It was absolutely necessary that a speedy de-
cision should be come to by the House upon the subject of the
measure proposed by the Government for Ireland, and he hoped
that n:) course would be pursued by the House calculated to im-
Mde the progress of those measures. He thought that for Irish
embers to propose the adjournment of a debate upon Poland,,
to the exausion of questions relating to Ireland, was certainly
most strange, especially after the charges which had been made
by Irish Members against the Government.
Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN said that had he known that the
debate was to be adjourned until Tuesday next he would not
have supported the present adjournment ; it was because he
thought that the debate was to be resumed on Tuesday, and
thereby not interrupt the course of public business that he had
supported the adjournment of the debate.
Mr. M. O'CONNELL had heard with regret the language
of the Right lion. Member the Secretary for Ireland to the
effect, that Irish Members ought not to take a part in debates
upon the condition of Poland, he thought that there was no
question so near to Irishmen. and upon which they might so
well claim the attention of the House, as upon questions con-
nected with Poland, the eastern Ireland of Europe.—( Hear. )
Mr. LABOUCHERE denied that he had said anything
which might be construed into an argument against Irish
Members joining in a discussion in that House upon the affairs
of Poland. Whit he had said was, that he was surprised that
Irish Members should, for the sake of Poland, oppose any
obstacles to the measures proposed by her Majesty's Govern-
ment for the relief of the great distress at present existing in
Ireland.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he did not distinctly hear
what the Hon. Member said when he moved the adjournment
of the debate. He though: he appointed this day for resuming
the debate, and it was upon that understanding that he made
the observations he did. He had no objection, however, that
it should be adjourned till Tuesday the day the Hon. Member
appointed.
The debate was accordingly adjourned.
HARBOURS, DOCKS, AND PIERS BILL.
This Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted.
LANDED PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL.
On the order of the day for the further consideration of the.
report on this Bill,
The Earl of LINCOLN moved the amendment he proposed
on Monday last with respect to corn mills.
Mr. STAFFORD O'BftlEN seconded the motion.
After a few words from Mr. BELLEW and Mr. VESET, •
Sir D. NORREVS and Sir R. FERGUSON were in favour of
making the clause as general as possible.
Sir R. PEEL considered that a greater number of corn
mills would be constructed, if they were left to private interest
than if they were interfered with, as proposed by the Bill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER acceded to
the proposition of the Noble Lord, and all the words after
" stones were accordingly omitted from the clause—thus
leaving these mills and other buildings to the parties interested,
Seme further verbal alterations in the Bill having been
made, the report was agreed to.
The House then adjourned at Half-past One o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS.

(From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.)

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10. -
The following Railway Bills were presented, read a first
time, and ordered to be read a second time :
South Devon (Extension and Antendment)—" to enable
the South Devon Railway Company to construct Railways
to Tavistock and Launceston, and to extend the Line of the
South Devon Railway to Torquay and to Brixham, and for
other purposes."
Shrewsbury and Birmingham Railway Act Amend:nent
and Branches—" to enable the Shrewsbury and Birmingham
Railway Company to make Branch Railways to Madeley and
Ironbriage, and for other purposes."
Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock ( Branch to the Caledo-
nian Railway and Diversion of Canal)—" to enable the
Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock Railway Company to make
a certain Branch Railway to the Caledonian Railway at
Glasgow, ant to divert part of the Glasgow, Paisley, and
Ardrossau
Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock (Branches at Port Glas-
gow)_" to enable the Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock Rail-
way Company to make certain Branch Railways at Port
Glasgow."
York and Newcastle (Main Line Improvement, &c.)—
for enabling the York and Newcastle Railway Company to
improve their Main Line of Railway, and to make certain
Branches in the county of Durham, and fur other purposes.'

The following Railway Bills; were read a second time, com-
mitted, and referred to the Committee of Selection :
Great Northern ( Deviations between Peterborough, Boston,
and Gainsborough).
Great Northern (Deviations between Gainsborough and
Doncaster).
Wexford and Valencia (Killarney to Valencia).
Great Southern and Western Extension (Portarlington to
Tullamore).
I.4iiiburgh and Glasgow.

NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL-OFFICE.
The following Railway Bill is appointed to be read a
second time on Monday, March 15 :
Patkgate and Cheater and Birkenhead Junction.

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still exte.nsively practised o
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community, by parties traasmitet•
detailing cases of touching distmg letters trom Ireland
means of returning to their native
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ague the humbler
man in Keith recently received one
apparently written hy a person belong in thre gentle-
documents,
classes, and purporting to come from
who, with three chldren, had been
printed
wrecked off Mills,c
Clear, while on her passage to join her husband°iffn Ame-
rica, rica, who was represented as a colour-sergeant. in aat;';
77th Regiment. The letter was accompanied by a
certificate, pretending to be signed by two justices of the
peace, and otherwise bearing marks of authenticity; hat on
the gentleman applying to the Dublin Police.office, he was
favoured with a series of other documents, detailing similar
distress. the pm ticulars of each being
It is almost unnecessary to add, that these
statements, and the chief difficulty in the
lion of these parties lies in the wantff legal
it is hoped that an exposure of their ne fa-
, have the effect of preventing their realiza-
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