The Sun.
London, England, 1841-12-07 00:00:00

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EVENING SUN.

Mr. Dymock, of Carnonstie, who, addressing not the
Moderator but the spectators, asked, "Does the audience
understand that the Moderator has intimated that the
Court has determined to proceed with closed doors in
this case, and that it is therefore necessary for -them to
retire ? Itecate they do not, the Moderator will again
intimate the resolution of the Presbytery.
The Moderator accordingly made a second time inti-
i motion ; and, as ho observed, there were several persons
present who had not the good sense and discretion to
withdraw of their own accord, in terms of the Presby-
tery's resolution, he assured them they were only causing
a vexatious delay, and impeding the proceedinge in the case.
The Moderator was heard with respectful attention,
but no one offered to retire. Indeed, instead of diminish-
ing, the audience was increasing in numbers. The si-
leisce that now ensued was only broken by the gentlemen
who seem to take the entire charge of the Presbytery's
busyness--Messrs. W. Wilson (Carmylie), Lumsden,
and Dymock. The import of their remarks did not
reach the ears of the audience ; but some of them, it
would appear, had been caught by Mr. Muir, who enli-
vened the scene by exclaiming, " Moderator, they say I
court popularity. Now it is well known that there never
was a man that courted popularity less than I do. I
stand up, Sir, simply for reason and justice, and I do so
almost alone." A burst of applause from the audience
followed.
After alittle farther whispering,
Mr. W. Wilson moved that the Presbytery adjourn to
Seaton's Hotel, and summon parties apui acta.
Mr. Lumsden—l second the motion.
Nothing further was done for a considerable time.
The trio already mentioned were, as usual, anxiously
whispering together. The rest of the members of the
Court were warming themselves, and even Mr. Muir,
who seldom leaves his seat at the Presbytery's table,
drew in his chair towards the fire. At last, Mr. Lums-
den again tried his influence, and intimated that there
could be no manner of doubt the Presbytery might re-
MOTO parties by physical force, and afterwards prose-
cute them for their illegal conduct in impeding the pro-
ceedings of a Church Court. This, like the rest of the
remarks that fell from the same quarter, WAS received
by the audience with the greatest equanimity ; and the
Rev. Gentleman resumed his scat.
Shortly after, however, ho again rose, and said that
he had already intimated that the parties present had
rendered themselves liable to civil penalties. He had
now to warn them that they were also subjecting them-
selves to ecclesiastical censures, and the various Kirk
Sessions to which they belonged would be enjoined to
deal with them for their conduct. This awful threat
seemed to create a " profound sensation" among the
members of Court themselves, but it only elicited a gene-
ral titter from the imperturbable audience. In a short
while
Mrs.' Wilson of Carmylie (who had been absent for, a
consideesable time) returned and announced to the-Pres-
bytery, that he had seen the Provost and ono of his
legal advi.'ers, on the subject of their present:position ;
and that they had directed that the Presbytery should
make a format s.pplication in writing, instead of merely a
verbal communication. He had, therefore, prepared a
short petition, which he moved should be adopted by the
Presbytery, and presented to the Provost.
The Moderator inquired if the petition had been
agreed to ?
Mr. Muir turned round from the fire, and said that
it was really necessary that their proceedings should be
consistent. It had been agreed to rem. con., not malty
minutes ago, that. the Presbytery should adjourn to
Seaton's Hotel, and now they were about to adopt a
very different course. He would like to know what
the minutes of the meeting bore on the subject.
Messrs. Lumsden and Wilson—No motion was ever
made or seconded that the Presbytery should adjourn.
Mr. Muir—l care not for that. It was proposed and
agreed to, and, as I believe, minuted.
The Moderator—l.never put any such motion from
the chair.
Mr. Muir—Moderator, all I want to know is what our
clerk has taken down in the minutes?
Mr. Lumsden—The clerk may take down anything he
likes. That does not signify.
Mr. Muir—l want to know what he has taken down.
Mr. Lumsden—There are then two motions before the
Court—

Mr. Muir (interrupting)—I make no motion on the
subject. There is no necessity that I should do so. As
.a member of the Court I am surely entitled to know what
has heel minuted by the clerk. What Is the ?ashy-
tery ashamed of what has been done, and afraid to et it
be known ?
Mr. Dymock (to the Clerk)—You had better read it.
The Clerk then began to read from the minutes, in a
low tone of voice, when Mr. Muir called upon him to
speak out, as he (Mr. Muir) was a little deaf. He-ulti-
mately read as follows:--" The Presbytery, in conse-
quence of the audience, after having been repeatedly re-
quested .to withdraw, refusing to do so, resolve to ad-
journ to Seaton's Hotel, and summon parties spud acW."
He then explained that it was a common thing for him to
minute the terms of a motion while it was under discus-
sion, and that it might be afterwards altered or expunged
in any way the Presbytery might think fit.
Mr. Wilson (Carmylie), moved that tho part of the
minutes now read by the Clerk should bo expunged.
Mr. Lumsden—l second that motion.
Mr. Kirk considered Mr. Muir perfectly entitled toin-
sist on the minutes being read, but there could be no
doubt they might be altered in any way the Presbytery
pleased, before they closed the sederunt.
Moderator—ls at the Preabytery's pleasure that this
part of the minutes be expunged? •
Mr. Lumsden—Put it out.
The Moderator addressed a note to the Provost re-
questing him to order the civil power to clear the hall.
After a short interval, Provost Mann, Baffles Lyon and
Jolly, Mr. Macdonald,Depute Town Clerk, and Mr.ltitchie,
Procurator Fiscal, entered the room amidst the plaudits
of the-audience, who rose in a body as a mark of respect
to the Chief Magistrate.
Provost Mann, addressing, them, said, Gentlemen, a com-
plaint has been made to me of your having interfered with
the proceedings of the Presbytery. They have resolved to
proceed with closed doors in a cave now before them, and
you have refused •to withdraw and leave them by them-
selves. I -Oink it is to be regretted that they should have
adopted such a resolution. I disapprove of their pro-
ceedings as much as you can do—(Hear, hear)—but still
it appears to me that it would be much more dignified
on your part to withdraw of your own accord, and allow
them to proceed in their own way. lam not inclined to
adopt any proceedings officially to get the Court cleared,
and as I have recommended you all to retire voluntarily, I
trust nothing farther will be necessary on my part
(Loud applause.)
Mr. Wilson (Carmylie) trusted they would now be
enabled to proceed to business. It would be perfectly
useless for the audience to attempt to remain longer.
He was determined they should not be gratified-by being
allowed to be present and hear the proceedings in the
case ; and he would not. submit longer to the treatment
the Court had to-day experienced.—(Hisses, followed by
the audience resuming their seats.)
Provost Mann—" Fie, fie, gentlemen ! Hissing is an
unseemly practice at any time, and more especially so in
a Church Court."

The Moderator hoped the gentlemen present would
now have the good sense to retire, without making any
farther attempts to impede the business proceeding. Ho
had stated, and now repeated, his own opinion, that the
Court should not have been closed ; but after the Pres-
bytery had deliberately resolved to do so, there was no
alternative for the spectators but to retire.
Mr. M '
uir—Gentlemen as the Provost has requested
'
you to withdraw, although he disapproves of the discre-
ditable conduct of the Presbytery (in which I think every
man of character and conscience must agree with him) /
hope you will now obey his solicitation and leave the hall.
Loud applause followed Mr. Muir's speech, and the
official gentlemen, and the greater part of the audience,
withdrew immediately after. Several, however, still
seemed disinclined to retire, and kept their seats: where •
upon Mr. Weir—who had been gnawing the top of his
walking cane for a considerable time, with no great relish
apparently—exclaiming " This will never do," bounced
out of the room in a very considerable pucker, overtook
the Provost at the head of the stair, and, bringing him
back, said, " You must really clear the Court, Provost."
The Provost advanced to the Presbytery table, when
after some further angry discussion they resolved to ad-
journ to the Hall.
The Moderator then summoned the petitioner to follow
the Presbytery, and closed the meeting with prayer.
Immediately after leaving the Guild Hall, the
Presbytery walked up to Seaton's Hotel, where a room
had been engaged for them. Duo care having been
taken that no intruders had obtained admission, the.ad-
journed meeting was constituted by prayer by the Mode-
rator ; and the minutes of the previous sederunt having
been read, parties were then called ;
The Presbytery's resolution to proceed with closed
doors was then communicated, against which Mr. J. A.
Anderson, for the petitioner, protested, and appealed to
the ensuing meeting of the Synod of Angus and Mearns.
Thus ended the scene.

THE FIRE AT THE TOIVER.—The Tower was
yesterday opened to the public for the first time since the
destruction of the Armoury. On Saturday last an ex-
tensive marquee was erected within the walls of the ruins,
in which are placed tables and benches for the purpose
of holding pieces of fused metal, niusket and pistol bar-
rels, locks, flints, and other small articles, which have
been got out of the rubbish during the clearing away.
All these relics, as they are called, are carefully selected
and arranged, according to their supposed value, and are
ticketed at prices varying rrom 6d. to 1/. Notwithstand-
ing the re'n, which continued nearly the whole of the
day, some hundreds of persons of both sexes availed
themselves of the first opportunity afforded to
pvuierwchti:e
ruins. It was generally supposed, that on admission
within the gates the visitors would be at once allowed to
inspect the remains of the armoury ; but they were soon
undeceived, on learning that it was necessary to
a ticket at the Armoury-office, by virtue of which theye
were at liberty to view the whole of the Tower, acco
panied by a Warden, just the same as before the cal el:
tons event. It was amusing to see the anxiety many
many ladies evinced to purchase a piece of fused
or clinker, run into some fantastic shape, and th Metal
care with which they were deposited in reticule great
new apartment has been prepared for theinretelepla of
urse
the Crown jewels, which will be removed
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THE SPITALFIELDS WEAVERS.—The Lord
Mayor received the sum of 201. as the contribution of Lord
Dudley Coutts Stuart, for the relief of the Spitalficlds
weavers.