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London, England, 1847-06-08 00:00:00

lions before the Cfmmittee were appointed. It was a
st standing ord..r of the House that no party interested in
Bin should he
iv.ointed as a member of a
°Lininitt*e 01. t. that Billappo. Now, here was Mr. W Stanley,
vija was deeply interested on the subject of this Bill—
rhgya redhe Id °,
he be appointed on the Committee ? He
ere,'
0,,,t 3, this Bill as a public measure, and,
the ' he treated it as such ; and he thought that
titles of the House should not be set aside on this
--44 - He would therefore move that Mr. Stanley be
;ant • ,
apponiteu on the Committee.
Mr- W. 0. STANLEY said he had no wish what-
ever to be aointed on the Committee.
The motion for the appointment of Mr. Stanley was
itgreed to.
Mr. WILLIA.MS proposed that five Members should
th chosen by the Committee of Selection and added to
e Committee. He did not think that he was out of
order in making such a motion.
The motion was then agreed to.
xt ABOLITION OF TRANSPOii,TATION.
M. KELLY wished to know whether in abolishing
transportation, periods of imprisonment, compulsory la-
bour, and exile, were to be substituted equivalent to
the axed sentence of transportation now passed; or
,„Whether it was to be left to the option of the Executive
Government, according to the circumstances of the case?
Sir G. GREY said that he had already stated the
'oourse to be taken in his observations the other even:•og.
The maximum and minimum of the imprisonment would
*such depend upon the good conduct and industry of
the convict, The Act of Deportation would take place
% later period, but the plan subsequently adopted
Would be the same as that laid down by Lord Stanley.
vr
RE CORN AND NAVIGATION LAWS.
Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said—Sir, I beg to give
notice that I will to-morrow move for leave to introduce
%Bill to extend the period of the suspension of the duties
till the ;
4teportation of foreign corn. I shall also move
or
"re to introduce a Bill to continue far a limited
Period the suspension of the Navigation Laws.
RAILWAY BILLS OF THIS SESSION.
it The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said as
was exceedingly desirable that no time should be lost
'a proceeding with the resolutions of the Committee
With respect to these Bills, he begged to propose that the
eunsideration of them should be proceeded with before
the offer
orders of the day on Wednesday next.
Sir AFFAIRS OF PORTUGAL.
11. PEEL wished to know when the papers with
,2spest to Portugal would be presented to the House. It
1;os necessary that they should be presented without de-
li", as the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Hume) had expressed
it
eowillingness to postpone his motion. Certainly
W,.43 most important that no time should be lost.
t4,440rd J. RUSSELL said his Noble Friend the Secre-
p:Del for Foreign Affairs had stated to him that the
fts-crs vfould be presented to-night, but the printer
not have a sufficient number of papers printed to
-9T_PIY Hon. Members before to-morrow.
Itirrird G. BENTINCK wished to ask a question of the
the Lord opposite. It was well known that when
° ueets of different nations were engaged, it was the
flirsetice that the superior officer should command. In
the Coast
of the French fleet taking part in the operations
se coast of Portugal, he wished to know whether
-Ve Prince de Joinville, being Lord High Admiral of
Lrt!ttee, should command the combined fleets of France
'414 England ?—(Laughter.)
thLord J. RUSSELL—No arangement has been made
ans aware of to put the forces of the different
tic pls in question under the command of any one par-
ot° officer. On the contrary, orders have been given
th Vir• Parker not to take the conjoint command of
ddbrenCh or Spanish naval forces; though I have no
his ! tthat great respect will be paid by these forces to
te,, "lee and opinions in case of any operation. With
ke6'!trd to the Prince de Joinville, I have not heard that
,r about to proceed to the coasts of Spain or Portugal,
taki,_therefore, there can as yet be no question about his
14% the command of the combined forces.
te,qr• LLLIGE wished to know whether it was the in-
-1:911 of the Chairman of the Railway Board to bring
Atis of
Bill this night ?
STRUTT was understood to say that it was not
h„ brought forward, in consequence of other
—illness Which had precedence.
ELECTIONS IN IRELAND.
that!: 14ABOUCHERE, in reply to a question, stated
toceitne subject of polling at elections in Ireland had.
Lelved the attention of Government. In counties in
eAd..._itTl it would be extremely difficult to shorten the
stioe
et., of the term for polling, as it was extremely
for tc.!t° appoint a sufficient number of polling places
the purp _
use He regretted that it had not been in
knUovver of her Majesty's Government to intro lute
enable to the House on this subject, which would
view ! Hon. Members to consider the subject, with a
la t.O the whole reconstruction of the electoral system
With regard to the boroughs in Ireland the
Ithitlwas different, and he did not despair of being able
rocluee a Bill to shorten the duration of the polling,
akie" he thougsides ofht couldthe be so framed as to meet the
ction of both
Howe.
Sir Bight 41 lir TIME OF IMPRISONMENT.
„,..TZROY KELLY said he begged to ask the
`fritoo. Gentleman (Sir George Grey) whether it
Nriolailtended to specify the maximum and minimum
sir of imprisonment.
stlit EORGE GREY said that he had already
eon e.4:to the House that the subject had been taken into
Rosideration. It was intended (as we understood the
Gentleman, who was most indistinct), that the im-
-4°7llnent should have reference to the term of tran-
IPortation.

EMIGRATION.
The Earl of LINCOLN rose for the purpose of malting
an explanation relative to what had been stated a few
evenings ago, that he (Lord Lincoln) intended to bring
forward the plan for emigration which had been pro-
Posed by Mr. Godley. It had been asserted that the
deputation had stated to the Government that they had
authority to say that he (Lord Lincoln) should bring
forward Mr. Godley's scheme before the House. Now,
as that assertion was obviously intended to apply that
he Was to bring forward his motion in a hostile form,
and that he intended taking advantage of the Govern•
meat as far as lay in his power, he begged to give that
. assertion his most determined denial. He had stated
eXplicitly to Mr. Godley, and the other gentlemen who
• 'were with him, the form of his motion, and the mode in
hhieh he intended to bring that question forward. He
these
never for an instant deviated from that form, and if
- belletie gentlemen were deceived, it was their own fault.
t'" had told them each and all what he had intended to
143• With reference to Mr. Godley he held a letter from
, in which he expressed his regret that such state-
t—ents should have gone abroad. He regretted the
otter the more that Mr. Godley, who anxiously desired
h; benefit his kind, who was sincerely desirous of serving
's, country, should have also been subjected to the
Ilia fhppancies of anonymous a riters. Unfortunately
,C'oble Friend the Member for Dorsetshire was not
aent, but perhaps the Hon. Member for Kerry would
Ttitantiate the accuracy of his statements.
tecor• MORGAN O'CONNELL said that as far as his
te llection extended Mr. Godley had carried the in-
flitinns of the Noble Lord into effect. The fact was,
at two ,
„ subjects were started when the deputation went
Go the Treasury. Two subjects were laid before the
othveerunient,
one was Mr. Godley's scheme, and the
as the Nob
Government's consent to such an inquiry
ve,L'o Noble Lord proposed the other night. The Go-
ciZnent did not consent to this inquiry, and Mr.
site, said he was authorised by the Noble Lord oppo-
- Bay, that he would bring the matter before the
th4:le• lie (Mr. M. J. O'Connell) understood by that
tic, "he Bhuu 1 d forward the general subject of colonise-
-1; and not the plan of Mr. Godley.
1.. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that the Hon. Member
: IKerry had stated that which was in perfect confir-
a„tt,inn of his own recollection of the subject. Two
:"JeCts were mentioned. One was Mr. Gudleys' plan,
.11.4 the other was the question of appointing a Coin-
rttee to inquire into the subject of colonization. It
`ld not appear to him that the subject of Mr. Godley's
Government.
Was brought especially before the notice of the
`lovernment. When informed that the Government did
sot intend to support the appointment of a Committee
Of Inquiry, he understood Mr. Godley to say, tlust the
j
&Obect would be brought forward before the House.
lie ( Lord John Russell) was left in doubt whether it
was the appointment of a Committee or the general
subject of colonization, that would be brought forward ;
but he never for a moment thought that it was intended
that Mr. Godley's plan was to be the matter brought
before the House.
• CASE OF SIR E. WILMOT.
Mr. SPOONER rose to bring the case of the late
GovernorT of Van Diemen's Land before the House. The
ithOn• Member, who was very indistinctly heard
Wroughout, prayed that the House would grant
them Its indub,ence while he proceeded to lay before
gt the facts connected with the dismissal of the late
„tr Eardley Wilmot,rwhich had excited so deep a sensa-
4on both in that HoUse and out of doors. That lamented
rli,vidual was now beyond the power of persecution ;
4.,t was due to his memory to clear it from the charges
'en had been made against him. These charges had
er been stated in plain terms ; even the dispatch of
I,7"o,...,GAadstone stated that they were defined with the
vt0r.,43 living in a state of concubinage with convict
tic-sen ;” and to his dying day the subject of them was
Ipermore than this : What were the charges, or who
he (Slr 6 the persons behind his back, who advanced what
ellm, • Spooner) had no hesitation in saving were mere
fectege_st &like unfounded and unju%t? What were the
ate' I`lll7l how did they originate ? Three gentlemen.
cc to
.this country from the colony, and had certain
telitrunications with the Colonial office. Two of these
hut oe„menD laid no restriction upon the use of their names,
shoufdancac; them did ; and, therefore, he (Mr. Spooner)
tn,ade tj;.",,,refer by name to either of them. Having
\*lodstotio-4arges, the then Secretary of State (Mr,
z-dtrdley
*Lent off a dispatch—a public dispatch—to Sir
subject
nf.1"11?t, with which, as it alluded not to the
nothino. ; tile charges, he (Mr. Spooner) had
private.. ..o do.
But he sent off another and a
APIA dispatch, dated the 13th day of
hid k_f. 184 n
-. which stated that communication
144,_"_" n made to him which excited no small surprise,
charges as they related to his private life. To these
the he he said he would not advert, but he said that
tiol‘xorernment felt it imperative to request his resigns-
iceltd There was nothing in those charges that could
he_ bias to form any plan for his own vindication.
ha jeyvere so uncertain in their character, and so vague
de:V 1.
ei
F description, that he 'was utterly at a loss how to
bad i with the,
eltic, . But he didwhat Sir Georg-, Arthur
••
CCithrel u•ider st!.niltr eireurns;aePes ; he called hi-;
-1446p.i.mtzether, and said--flue are certain char.,e,
"litat.gl;il;„ aglinst me by the Gevernwent at home ; if 1
lllle SA-'' Sas. '3.) ;if I stn notguilty,the; re )reient to
bin; glish 6. - , - ,
.;,,, , ;
paragng the time
that. Lucy were u koni,..ir ~..
that this subject was under discussion a
4PPeareci„ in the Naval and Militarg Gazette,
- me chtrgee. To that paragraph the Lord