The Sun.
London, England, 1815-02-10 00:00:00

TILEAC lIING BILL.

Mr. PossoNzy moved the Order of the Day for
the second reading.of theßleaching
After a few observations from Mr. BROWN and
Sir JtiurINEWBO-RT,,it was ordered. to be read a
second titne on next, and printed.
Mr. WHITBREAD stated, that be had seen a let-
ter signed by Mr. Croker, dated the 26th of Jnly,
1314, directing tlie sale of the ships which had
beer,sent.ont in fraines"to America; .but it would
appear from what that Gentleman had -said on a
for Mer occasion, that he did not remember hav-
ing signed: such letter. An-Order had also been
issued from the Navy Office,- dated, the 27th of
July, 181:4, but which was not affixed to the pa-
pers, wherein'the Lords of Admiralty directed
the Commissioner to sell the
.ships. He, .there-
fore, moved, tbat"there before theVonse
copy of the Letter from the Navy... Office, address-
ed to Commissioner Hall, at.uebec, touching the
sale of the frames of the Prompt and Psyched,: fri-
.
gates.
Mr: CROKER said, that .the Hon. Gentleman,
had-mistaken What had fallen from him .on,alor-
tner occasion. He, had stated, That it
,was doubt-
f d whether the, ships could be used, iiiit'.one of -
the-:ships: had been carried up 'the .Lake. -The
Hon; tientleman had said, that both-ships were
under. orders tube, sold ; but 'one of the ships had
been sent. up, and subseqUently the other ship.had.
beetithrected to be sold. - •

Mr,..IVHI:II3!:EAp observed, that the' Hoti;Se-
cretary had ready. egress from difficultiesjiy7dates.
He thought•the Hon. Gentleman had. said, "that
no.order had been given•for sales, and drat there.
Was, no correspondence on the subject rhut now
it appeared., that an order was .given,4llOugli he
(Mr. W.), was mistaken as to the date. •
Mr.CROKER said, that the order for -sale, was
conditional upon Sir. James Yee, if he. thohght
he could not use the -ships ; and all the -that -he
Meant to contradict. was, the•coutradietion of his
statement,, that one of the ships had been cut up.
The motion was then put, aid carried.
Mr. 'fIEIINEY, wished to know, from. the Chap.:-
cellor of the ExchequeT, whether he mearit• to
divide the House on '-.Fridayse'nuight,; upon' his
measures of .finance ? • •

Tbe CHANCELLOR• of the EgCHIEQUER was glad
that the Right Hon. Gentleman had put the -ques-
tion.. He proposed to submit to the:Zonsidera-
tion of the House several financial measurestont
he did not think it necessary at present to enter
into a general
.detail. •

Mr. TiFTINEY said, lie should be glad to know
what those measures were which the Right Hon.
Gentleman had to suggest to the House. It could
not be for supplies, and must therefore be a plan
of fioance he did not, hywever, understand the
nature of his proposition, or whether he intended
to make the
.Property Tax a part of them ; but
the Right Hon, Gentleinan ought not to 6EO up-
on the House. to adopt his plans, without furnish-
ing such papers. as were necessary to enable it to
understand and. judge of their expediency.
- The CHANCELLOR of,the EXCHEQUER said, that,
without going, into a -premature discussion, he
would observe,- that.the plans. which he had to
propose did: not require previous explanation.
Nr:.PonsoNar hoped that the Right HOn.Gen-
tleman meant_to State to the House the general
expences of the Peace Establishment. .
,The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not
mean to bind the. House as to any considerations
upon that subject.
Air.
TisttNEx egged to know what Wittliellll-

.rtire,pr:..tlLe,..lVays I. d which I.lo°.
'Gentleman intended •to propose to the House.
• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the
House would understand, as he did not mean to
propose the renewal of the Propeity Tax, that
some other measures would be necessary ; but be
did not think any papers would be wanted, till he
came to submit those measures for consideration.
Mr.' WHLTBREAD observed, that as. the Right
Hon. Gentleman and .his Colleagues intended to
sit with sealed mouths till the Noble Lord re-
turned, he should be glad to- know from the Right
Hoti..Gentleman on what day that Noble' .Lord
would return; and' when be intended to bring
forward the general'finance of the .co 4. zatrY.
-The C trAtc=.l. oa. of the EX,C.IiEQU'AIi .retui.""
no answer.

. -
Mr. BARLNG never remembered: any important
proposition of finance haying` been .made to the
House, without some time being.allowed sufficient
for,,,its due consideration. He hoped, that althon'gh
the subject might be opened on Friday sennight,
no vote would.then be called for. He hoped that
the Right Hon...Gen:leman.would not place the
House in 'the'disagrecable situation of voting ill
alturry•upon a matter Of such great and general
importance.
• Mr. PONSONBY conceived that.the House owe('
no particular thanks to the Itight,lion..Gentle-
man for telling them that the usual tinie would bee
allowed :for consideration. The nsual,time,
Supposed, would of course-he all Owed. If, how"
ever, the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to pro'.
pose-a' new mode for providing ",.r the.expendi-
: ture. 'he should not.stint the House so much in
point of information. It was not. sufficient for
the Right Hon. Gentleman to state a particular
sum, and • point out his new mode of raising it
he should also:point ottt the necessity of the vote,
by stating_what WAS to
.be the naval, establish-
ment, and what was the .military establishment,
-tribe kept tipAtiriiig peace. He could hardly 01—
pest thellouse to vote blindfold Oe sum that he
regniredi.antl, therefore, explanations of this na'_
tare would be absoliaely necessary.

The,CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER slid, that
.al.l he conici-i•cquire was, thai the lionse mould,
iw this cast,ogive -him -the same Jegree of cnnfi'
dence that was Rsually given to persons-in. his si;
tuation he did not expect __that the tioucewodhci
consider itself, in any rapect, tied down to the
propositions which he had•to submit to it..
. _
—The, conversation-then dropped ;and a Petitioa
was brought up from. Nottingham., against the
Property Tax.—Adjourned.

DUTCH MAIL.

[RECEIVED THIS MORNING.]

VIENNA, JAN. 25.—1 t is at this'motneut

rally affirmed that the Treaty is concluded. This

hope- is excited by his Majesty the Emperor of
Russia having said, as it is asserted,.that he shall
not wait to, celebrate the birth-day of. the Emile"
peror of Austria, as his presence here till that
time would not be necessary. This, is considerad
.
as a sign that the principal points are decided'
But persons who have carefully.attended to the pro'
press of the operations for the last fortnight think.
they have observedthatthe measures of-the Prussia*
and Russian Governments are wholly at variance
With the Plans of Austria, England, and Frances
and they therefore do not credit this , report. Of
a journey of the King of Saxony to Vienna, or to
another cityOf the Austrian States, no
_thought
seems to have been entertained.. But whatever
•,
may be the result of the negotiations, and not'
. • •-
Withstanding the secrecy, in cyllich they are iil"
volVed, we place unbounded confidence in the
great Statesmen who direct them, and are assured
.• •
(thanks to the Influence of Austria) they. will end
, •., •
happily,

, .
BRUSSELS, Fin-. 4.—The cLlnges .in the po'
salon's- Prussian troops are not yet welt,
.decided, and,-.we are still nnable to, explain them,
.The grand
,bead-quartets are on the right. bank of
the'Rhine,.and those of the several Corps off,tho.
left OrkiViii,'"Lakeiribnrgh;•tiege, Dusseldorf,
is•-obseryed:that the artillery; the
cavalry,- .and the Inilitary equipage and baggage,
go fowards Aleves, Dusseldorf, and, Wesel ;- a
'great piiit'of the cavalry has taken the stone
route, :,..but the,z,infantit-seeins merely to have
changed_ its canto.nments.- Within: a few daY5
movements liaye been observed among the
'French': "troops at Metz, Thionville, Sarre
Lottisv. Sedan, 'and. Cbarleville. For the rest,
all is perfectly quiet on the French • and Bel'
giati frontiers. We learn from Calais, that or"
ders.have been given for packet-boats and light
vessels to be at all times in readiness to .conv.eY.
couriers. Seven couriers lately passed through,
Calais within 36 hours.—(ilaarlem Court..Feb,l•)

GENOA, JAN. 21...--Letters from Palermo :sal,
far from arming' to attack Murat, we only take
the...necessary precautions to secure- ourselYes
from an invasion by this conqueror, who persists
in calling himself King of the two Sicilies,
and who to get the march of Ancona, pretend-5
to enforce at the Congress his claims upon out
island. The Court of Palernio has wholly con.'
fided its interests..to the Powers who are united to
it by the ties of blood or by treaties.-o—(4tigtef!".
darn Courant, Feb; 8.)

4•4:
Notice has been given It the Post-office, Paris'
that mails for the States of Lucca, Tuscany, Bower
and Naples, will be dispatched from Paris RP'
Tuesday, from Lyons on Friday, and from Cliaal
berry on Saturday, in each week: Mails for-ifi‘C
States- of Piedmont, Genoa, Parma,. PlaeeritiPl
Milan.; Bologna, , Ferrara, Modena, Manta'
Venice, Bergamo, Brescia, Verona, Viceni'l'.
Treviso, Friuii, Pad ia, Tyrol, Istria, Dalniati
af
Ragusa, will b,e (Ulla ched front Paris on Tuesday
and Saturday, trom Lyons on Tuesday and,FridEli
and from Chambers y on Wanesday and Saturn*
in each week.

PRICE OF STOCKS

THIS DAY AT TWELViO'CLOCK. -
tank Stock, I Bank L. Ann. IGT 5-16ths
,3 l',', tern. Red. 64,?-4t 1 India Bonds, 'Gs. 17s. pr.
3per Cent.Cons..64ati Exclieq. Bilis, 3s. ss. pr.
4 ver Cent. Cods. 13:2-i Omni um, 2ii dis.
6 per Cent.NaryAnn. 9411 a, Cons. for Acc.unt, 64iii

TIIE SUN.

.30LEn QU. IS'DICERE FALSUM AUDEAT

LONDON,

F R %DAY; FE rill (7,1111 70, 1815.

, •
Parliament met yesterday, pursuant to atijourn-_,
meat, When several subject's of great national in-
itteit were incidentally touched upon,. but none
looresothan thePropertyTax. Upon thisiniportant
Point, we on Saturday the 4th, declared• our con -
yktion that Ministers had not come to arty sPeet•tic
determination inflexibly to enforce its continuance,
. ' lint that, on the contrary, "after laying an. expii-
3i.tion of the Financial: State of.theCountry before
Parliament, shewing the amount: of the supplies
-
absolutely necessafy foe the 'expenditure of the
-'npire, and the Ways and, Means in.operation to
11-I'tt the national expence-s andengagements, tbey
*ill Propose to continue the tax for another year,
441 thrOw themselveS npon the judgment of the
14 T:'':;,,ttandthe Public,., etc. It will be seen
we
~. .
..
our E,..”.10rt of the discussiOn in the House of
.tailitions, tat we, were essentially-correct in this
lP.Aftietilar. , Aliiiist-ers do not mean to press the
'
Loperty.Tax hilt-.as an unavoidable contingent,
'bnuld the
I.''- Finance ,tneastires to be developed on
~
~.,ay. next by :.t r`
.he tzoß ..,LIANCELLOR br the EXCHE7
a be deemed more inexpedient by Pai•liament
pro
than the long'ation of that Tax. We do not
Profess to be informed of the nature of the pro-
positions. which- the night Honourable . Chan-.
7ellor intends to :produce, and respecting which
he for so playlet!
cl(tlitivene a secrecy against the in-
ss of the Talents last night ; but we trust
his great
t i rat
abilities in mattes of financial
omy may have enalal . • . • s
ecl'him. to devise a sy -.
rem, or rather the enla • •
. '
Igettnunt of an existing-SY"
tem, which will be adeqnate to the !Ifliculties of
our situation, and far b • ,
better auapted to meet the
public I°Cs than any we. have had penetration
enough to antitipate: At all events the conduct-
of the Minister ought not to pass without its en"
Inky. It affords an example of what the Rulers
0f a free Country otighi to be. Instead of obsti-..
Itai4 ' . • • y Persisting in a measure,' the prodigious
tfae-
aey arid value of which is undeniable, but
*160) is, certainl
tire adv• y ohnoXions to many objections,
isers of the Perxcz ittiGENT, with deference
to the op .i •
nions expressed bya c73insiderable number
f" the People, endeavour with all their industry
ana intellect to provide a substitine which will
Feet the •-.
.ie public exigencies, and be at the same
Rye
mo re universally acceptable to the Nation.-
7Shaul& this Substitute be found, on investiga-ion,
t'k be more objectionable tban the Tax already
eThAhliihed—should that to which .we are desired
tc.' fly appear a worse evil than that with the extent
Flt,
which we are from experience acquainted,
viii - With n xvi how good a grace may. the Minister at
Mc head of the Finance I3epartment appeal to the
Ipr
:let,-
,ae and sr,
of Parliament and of the Conn-
to .
" Sayings " 1 halve -clone every thing possible
Proridzthe Supp.liesfor the year; and lighten the
44ti°lIal burthens—
onr these are the demands Which
f6l ere t il-
t.and interest alike render it indispensible
, ti ge
itsanti to dischar' with honour and`punctuality,
'e3e are the only resources which are available
''or that Purpose. It is now requisite to weigh the
1,-,,elit alit!' demerits of both—As,a Minister of the
,-7.roxr„'" .
.
for
lietis, ' t must propose the alternatives to you
1 44), but the Crown and. its Ministers can
..,ax, butclbil one object in view, to fulfil the pecuniary
totions.
t,, .of the State in the way most acceptable
o
'lle:StaaJett. "

.
.
it - utqcli liail arrived this morning, and, like
t. 3 Predecessors of the Low Countries, and its
I4P.eitors of Paris, blows 'hot and cold, with
th, •
it 1,441 e breath. The most iniportant. rumour
4Qt7it'gs is, that the- Grand Treaty had been
litl '4l at. Vienna : on- the - 25th, in' consc-
-1,4441c° of . \viiich b .er Emperbr Ar..n tE'..NDER
pit
ielcfiressediiiS intention of
.leaving that Ca-.
14 4 Previous to the Emperor of AUSTRI4's Birth,
44::' (te 12th of Pb ..Ifie Dutch Editor -does
1 7,l‘eilture to inform us that this is a c‘ disgrace -
thr„„`?'
~ctt'V'atic that the .Negoeiations liave been
fpsu., 41,tiout 6‘ clis'graceful;" but as Alr. VrgiTtlagAlo
S. ,1
k ...,oere.'6iiil l're suPpv.sc, be n 4 dOnbt of the
..-(\ • What • • leis •
.„ f-..1„(1 BuoNA-
r4kie j Pity nolloui S i , .
443 I.tot a dominant party to these discus.
1-

• MAILS.
AnnIVED-1 Holland, t Leeward Islands, 2 Dublin, I Wa-
terford. Lisbon, 1 Malta, 4 Hamburgli, I Wa-
terford:

IJIGfI
WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW.
hloning, 41 minutes after 3. Evening, 6 minutes after 4.