The Sun.
London, England, 1849-09-06 00:00:00

THE SON,

was accompanied by Mr. Graham, another Custom-
house officer. He then repeated his evidence with
respect to O'Connor showing him a letter signed
" Maria," and to his saying that he was going to dine
with her. O'Connor was at the time walking
to the Surrey side of the bridge. Witness had fre-
quently seen the female prisoner in the company
of O'Connor. Oa calling at 3, Minvcr place
on the Sunday following the disappearance
of the deceased, he saw Mrs. Manning, and
she admitted that she had been to O'Connor's
lodgings on the Friday, but said that she had
gone there fur the purpose of seeing what had
become of him, as she had invited him to come to
dinner on Thursday, and that her husband thought it
very ungentlemanly of him that he did not make his
appearance. She said her husband had gone to church,
and that he would not be home at six, as they were
going out to tea. He noticed that she appeared slightly
nervous at the time.

Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—l have, to the
best of my belief, seen a letter besides the one
shown to me on London-bridge, signed " Maria,"
inviting Mr. O'Connor to dinner. The landlady
of the deceased showed me one ; 1 won't swear that I
saw the signature, but it was in the same hand-
writing. The landlady said it had been received on
the Wednesday. I have seen many of Mrs. Man-
ning's letters.
By Mr. Solomons—l have seen Mrs. Manning
in the company of O'Connor many times. I
have altogether seen them together over five
years, sometimes walking together, and sometimes
at the deceased's lodgings. I have seen her half-a-
dozen times at his lodgings without her husband, and
about three times there in company with her husband.
They appeared friendly together. I do not know of
any transactions between them.
Mr. Wm. Flynn, also an officer in the Customs,
said the deceased was a relative of his, and that he
had known him for nine years. He was a second
cousin. He was shown a body at 3, Minver-place,
on the 17th of August, upon which an in-
quisition was holding at the time, and it was
that of Patrick O'Connor. He had not the slightest
doubt about it being the body of that person The
witness stated, when he called at Minver-place to ask
for O'Connor, Mrs. Manning looked pale and rather
flurried.

Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—l knew that the
deceased had false teeth, because I have seen him
without them at his lodgings, at his office, and at my
own house. I saw him last two months before his
leath. I observed by accident that he had false
teeth. He did not tell me that he had them. I made
no observation to him upon making the discovery.
Anne Armes, Mr. O'Connor's landlady, was the
next witness, and went over the heads of her former
evidence. On being asked if she knew Manning,
she said she did not recollect him. She knew Mrs.
Manning perfectly. She used to visit Mr. O'Connor
frequently alone ; sometimes Manning came with her.
Her sister usually opened the door. She was on
friendly terms, and so was the person that came with
her, whom she understood to be her husband. She
deposed to Mrs. Manning coming to the deceased's
lodgings and taking away the property deposed to
have been stolen.
Mr. Binns said there was no evidence to show that
the male prisoner had ever called at the lodgings of
the dtceased. The identity was not made out.
Mr. Bodkin said he could prove it by the sister of
the last witness.

Emily Armes was then sworn—She said she lived
with her sister. She said she generally admitted the
female prisoner.
Did Mr. Manning ever come with her ?—He did..
Look round the court, and see if you can point
him out ? The witness (pointing to Manning)—
That is Mr. Manning.

Mrs. Armes was here re-called—She remembered
Mrs. Manning and the person who passed as her hus-
band dining with Mr. O'Connor, and she was in the
habit of waiting at the table. About twelve months
oack she heard a conversation between them about
borrowing money, and she also heard a conversation
on money matters.

Mr. Binns and Mr. Solomons asked some ques-
tions, but the only thing at all material was that Mr.
O'Connor had told her not to let Mrs. Manning in
any more. Had seen Mrs. Manning and Mr.
O'Connor in the bed-room together. Did not know
anything about whether they were intimate or not.
On her oath she did not believe that they were on
barms of the closest intimacy.

Emily Armes was recalled—Recollected Mrs. Man-
ning being at her sister's on the Friday before Mr.
O'Connor's death. The cash box was on the table.
Ars. Manning said she should like to buy some rail-
way shares. He said " You had better buy so and
so." She could not recollect the name of the line.
Recollected Mrs. Manning coming in on the Thurs-
day at the private door. She came again on the
Friday. The time was a quarter to six. She noticed
the clock,- because she had
,to send the boy out at
that time. She asked if Mr. O'Connor was in. She
said he was not. She went out through the shop at
a quarter past seven, having bought some cakes. She
looked pale and agitated.

By Mr. Solomons—clad known the female pri-
soner about a year and a half, during which time she
came frequently to Mr. O'Connor's lodgings. Mr
O'Connor was showing her some railway shares
whilst they were talking on the day she mentioned.
She was not bound to go through the shop, she might
nave gone out by the private door if she had thought
proper. Mrs. Manning and Mr. O'Connor were on
riendly terms. She has often taken tea with him
alone.

Re-examined—Mrs. Manning told Mr. O'Connor
chat she wished to be instructed how to purchase some
railway shares.
By the MAGISTRATE—Knew Mrs. Manning went
into the bed-room, because she used to push up the
window and water the flowers.

Mr. William Massey, the medical student who
lodged in Manning's house, was then called and
sworn. He repeated his evidence as to the conversa-
tion with Manning, when he asked him what drug'
would produce stupefaction or partial intoxication, in
order to induce a person to put his hand to
a promissory note for 5001., and also as to other con-
versations both with the male and female prisoner.
His (witness's) reply to the question whether lauda-
num or chloroform would produce stupefaction was,
that he believed those drugs had been used for bad
purposes. On another occasion Manning asked which
was the most dangerous part of the head to bit? and he
replied, under the ear; and also when he was
talking about Rush, whether he thought a murderer
would go to heaven ? Manning observed, at the
same time, that he thought he would go to Madame
Tassaud's and see the figure of that murderer. Another
question was asked about the noise made by an air-
gun. Witness thought that these questions were
asked with the view of getting him to become
a party to their acts.

Cross-examined by Mr. Binns—l wrote two or
three letters to O'Connor, by the direction of the
Mannings, inviting him to dinner. I do not know ,
when the first letter was written ; the second, I think,
was written in the middle of July. Mr. O'Connor
came to Manning's house after the second
or third letter was written. I cannot swear
whether he was there three times, but I think
he was there three times. I don't believe I saw him
after the last letter. I went into the country on
Monday, the sth August, and I wrote the last letter
to O' Connor very nearly a fortnight before then. To
the best of my recollection, it might be a week or
more before the sth. I put my name to that letter.
The male prisoner and I were not on bad terms
before I left London. There was some dispute
about money; he claimed 131. and I found that he
afterwards sent a bill into the country for 151.
Re-examined—l once had a quarrel with him in
the presence of some medical. students about a bet.
We left on telerable terms. I lodged with the pri-
soners altogether nine or ten weeks.
Mr. Coleman, the owner of 3, Minver-place, gave a
repetition of his former evidence.
At the conclusion of his examination,
Mr. Bodkin said he understood it was the intention
of one of the legal advisers of the prisoners to apply for
the postponement of their trial at the Old Bailey until
the session after next, and if such were the case, he
trusted that both of those gentlemen would concur in
making an application to the magistrate, so as to avoid
the enormous and needless expense of keeping the wit-
nesses in attendance next session upon the grand jury.

lie (Mr.Bodhin) would be prepared to state to-morrow
morning whether he could consent to the application
on the part of the Crown.
Mr. Solomons said his client (Mrs. Manning) de-
sired him to state that she wished thu fullest and most
ample inquiry into the matter concerning the death
of the deceased, and he had no objection to the course
proposed by Mr. Bodkin.
It was understood that Mr. Binns coincided in the
suggestion, and at a quarter past four the magistrate
adjourned the further hearing of the evidence until
twelve o'clock to-morrow, when Mr. Bodkin will
give a reply.
The court was nearly cleared bcfore the pri-
soners were removed from the dock. Manning
did not once move from the position he first
took on the side of the dock, and he only
spoke once to his solicitor during the exa-
mination, to which he gave great attention.
He looked pale, but appeared quite at his
ease. Mrs. Manning, on the contrary, several

times turned round in the course of the evidence,
and consulted with Mr. Solomons.

Towards the close of the proceedings she looked
very fatigued. More than once she was noticed to
turn slightly round and give a searching glance
into her husband's face, but when he observed her,
he hung down his head.

WEST LONDON RAILWAY.
(THIS DAY.)
The usual half-yearly meeting of this company
took place to-day at the London Tavern.
H. 11.iGrounds, Esq , the chairman of the company,
took the chair shortly after one o'clock ; and the usual
preliminary proceedings having been gone through,
W. TnomsoN, Esq., the secretary of the company,
read the following report :
" In conformity with the expressed wishes of the
proprietors, the directors, since the last meeting, have
endeavoured, by continued negotiation, to prevail upon
the London and North-Western Company to fulfil the
engagements they have entered into with this company,
and at once to bring the line into full operation for the
conveyance both of passengers and goods.
" The further correspondence on this subject having
led to no beneficial results, the directors determined

to obtain an interview with the directors of the London
and North-Western Company, believing that_if an op-
portunity were afforded for personal explanations, it
might had to a better understanding, and that some
satisfactory arrangement might be come to.
" A meeting accordingly took place on the 15th ult.
between the directors of this company and a committee
of the directors of the London and .North-Western Com-
pany, when, after considerable discussion, the West Lon-
don directors were informed that the London and North-
Western Company will not work the line for passengers, as
they are convinced there would be no passenger. traffic
upon it, and that they will not stop any of their
through trains, for the accommodation of passengers,
at the junction of the two lines—that the goods traffic
upon the line is rapidly increasing ; and that every
facility and encouragement will be given for the further
increase of that traffic; that they have no present inten-
tion of making the extension line to the Thames, as
:hey have ascertained it would not pay them for
the outlay ; and they have reason to believe the
Great Western Company have arrived at the same con-
clusion respecting it—that they will not pay any com-
pensation to this company, as they do not admit they
have been guilty of any breach of covenant.
" The London and North-Western Company have
hitherto declined to work the line for passenger traffic,
on the ground that they could not do so with profit to
themselves, until the extension line to the Thames
was formed, but as their declarations to this effect
were always accompanied by an assurance that no
delay should take place in carrying the extension
line into effect, the directors were content to let
the matter rest upon that understanding, at the same
time reserving the right of this company to claim com-
pensation for the delay. It now, however, appears that
the London and North-Western Company have not only
abandoned all intention of making the extension line, but
that they positively refuse to work the existing line at
all for passenger traffic.

" This is a iubject which vitally affects the interests of
this company, the passenger traffic upon the line having
always been considered by the proprietors as one of their
chief sources of income.

"To show how completely erroneous is the opinion
expressed by the London and North-Western directors
at the late conference, that:no passengers would use the
line, even if trains were placed upon it for their accom-
modation, it is only necessary to call attention to the
fact of the very large and increasing population of the
districts the line was intended to accommodate; and
taking into account the character, as well as the great
extent of this population, there would necessarily be, if
proper facilities and accommodation were afforded, a
very large passenger traffic upon the line; but no mea-
sures have yet been taken to test and develop this
traffic, and it is therefore somewhat unreasonable to
assume that none would exist.

With respect to the formation of the Thames ex-
tension line, the directors admit that the London and
North-Western Company are under no legal obligation
to this company, but as regards the working of the ex-
isting line for passenger traffic, the directors are advised
that the lessees are bound, legally and equitably, to
work it as well for passengers as for goods; and that
this obligation extends not only to the traffic to and from
tho London and North-Western Railway, but to and
from the Great Western Railway also.
" The directors regret exceedingly the determination
which has been come, to by the London! and North-
Western Company ; and they find the difficulties of their
own position very much increased by it. In the altered
circumstances they thought it advisable to consult the
principal shareholders in the company as to the proper
course to be pursued, and a meeting was held for the
purpose ; but they found so great a difference of opinion
existing amongst them, that they have considered it
best to leave the subject to the decision of a general
meeting.
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" The goods traffic on the railway appears to be slowly
and steadily increasing, and no doubt can be entertained
that if proper facilities are given by the lessees for the
further increase of this traffic, it will become of consi-
derable importance; at present, however, it is quite
insignificant as a source of income.
" The increase in the traffic upon the railway has pro-
duced a corresponding increase in the traffic upon the
Kensington Canal; the increased traffic has, however, been
principally in one direction, viz , from the canal to the
railway, and not as might have been expected from the
railway to the canal, the respective quantities conveyed
during the last half-year having been in the former
direction 10,067 tons, and in the latter 1,905 tons,
thereby showing that the canal has been rather a feeder
to the railway, than the railway to the canal, which would
scarcely have been the case if proper facilities had been
afforded by the lessees for the conveyance of goods by
the West London line to the river. The tonnage on the
canal for the half-year ending the 30th of June last,
was in the aggregate 31,500 tons, the gross receipts
from which amounted to 3601. 0:F. 2d."
From a statement of the receipts and disbursements of
the company, it appeared that the present assets of the
company were 5,0881. 111. 7d., that their liabilities were
3,1501., and that the available balance was 1,1641. 6s. Bd.
The CHAIRMAN then rose to move the adoption of

the report. He said—Most of the gentlemen present
are, I believe, already acquainted with nearly every•
thing that has occurred since our last general meet-
ing, and it will therefore be unnecessary for me to
trouble you at any length. You have heard from the
report which has been read that, after trying in vain
every other means to induce the London and North-
Western Company to fulfil their engagements to us,
we determined to have a personal conference with
their directors, a course which was suggested by I
yourselves at the last meeting. The conference was
held, and its result seriously disappointed us. We
were met with great courtesy, but a firm refusal was
given to all our applications. We called upon them
to carry out their contract with us fully and fairly,
according to their original intention, and to the un-
derstanding of all parties at the time it was entered
into. We told them that understanding clearly and
undoubtedly was, that they were immediately to work
the line for passengers and goods in such manner as
to make it productive of income to all classes of
shareholders in this company ; and that they were
to make the extension line to the Thames as soon as
Parliamentary powers could be obtained for the pur-
pose. We reminded them of the repeated promises
which had been made to us that the whole of this
should be done, and we called upon them, as a matter
of common justice to us, to carry into effect their
original intentions. We were, however, unable to obtain
from them any assurance that they would do so ; on the
contrary, they told us, as you have heard, that the
extension line would not be made, and that, under no
circumstances would they work the line for passenger
traffic, or stop any of their through trains at the point
of junction of the two lines. With respect to the
extension line, they told us circumstances had

changed, that they had re-considered the subject, and
on making fresh calculations they found it would not
repay them for its cost, if made. We regret this
determination, entertaining as we do a very different
opinion of the value and importance of the extension
line ; and we think if the London and North-Western
Company did not intend to carry it into effect, it
would have been much better if they had not taken the
measure out of the hands of our proprietors, who had
at the time subscribed the full amount of capital re-
quired to make it. As regards passenger traffic we are
still firmly of opinion that it would he very large if
the line were properly worked. The population in its
immediate vicinity is immense, and is besides essen-
tially a travelling population, but why don't they try
by actual experiment whether there would be any
passenger traffic or not; it might very easily be done,
but they have never yet placed a passenger carriage
on the line, and therefore it is mere matter of opinion
on their parts. Suppose Kensington or Hammer-
smith were placed at the other end of the line instead
of where they now are, do you think they would not
then stop their trains at the junction? Why,
they would be but too glad, in that case,
to make it a first-class station, and stop
every one of their trains at it. Why, then,
should they not stop their trains at the
junction now.? It is not only Kensington and gam-