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London, England, 1847-01-22 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Jun. 21.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the:W,.ol,
,ack at Five &Cluck.

REPLY TO THE ADDRESS.

Earl FORTESCUE presented her Majesty's reply to
the Address, and moved that it be entered on the journals
of the House, which was agreed to.

MEXICO.

Lord BROUGHAM put a question to her Majesty's
Government as to the relations between this country
and Mexico, in reference to the recent letters of marque
said to be issued by that Government.
The Marquis of LANSI)OWNE declined to answer
the question at present.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH explained certain
points of the speech which he made (111 the Address,
which were misunderstood. He considered that the re.
sponsibility of the awful state of things which existed in
Ireland ought to be equally shared on both sides of the
House.

TRANSPORTATION.
Earl GREY, in reply to Lord Lyttelton, had no ob
jection to lay certain documents on the table of the
House relative to the subject of an improved mode of
transportation.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Jan. 21.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock.
RAILWAY AND onIER PRIVATE BILLS.
A number of Railway and other Private Bills were
introduced, and read a first time,
REPEAL OF THE UNION. _

Mr. CALLAGHAN presented a petition from the
Mayor and Corporation of the city of Cork, praying
for a repeal of the legislative union between Great
Britain and Ireland, and thereby enable Ireland to get
out of her distressed and degraded situation.
SUGAR AND MOLASSES FOR BREWERIES
AND DISTILLERIES.

Sir HOWARD DOUGLAS presented a petition from
Liverpool in favour of the use of sugar and molasses in
breweries and distilleries.
TEN HOURS' BILL.

Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from Todmordcn
in favour of the Ten Hours' Bill ; also a petition from
the borough of Finsbury, praying for an inquiry into
the circu►nstances which had led to the dethronement of
the Raja of Sattara.
CHELSEA PENSIONERS.

Captain LAYAItD presented several petitions from
Newcastle-upon-Tyne and other places in favour of a
reduction of the duty performed by the Chelsea pen-
sioners.
TEN HOURS' BILL.

Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from thir-
teen medical practitioners of Rochdale in favour of the
Ten Hours' Bill, and characterising the present system
as the painful cause of much misery and suffering.
RATES REFORM ACT.

Mr. DUNCOMBE gave notice that he would, on
Thursday next, move for leave to bring in a Bill for the
abolition of the rate-paying clauses in the Reform Act.
CORPORAL PUNISHMENT.
Dr. BOWRI N G said that he would to-morrow take
the opportunity of putting some questions to the
Secretary at War, respecting the mode of corporal
punishment administered at Hong-Kong.
MEXICO AND THE UNITED STATES.

Mr. ROEBUCK said that he wished to put two
questions to the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, and
he would not be able to do so unless he made
a short preface, in order that the H. .use
might be the better able to understand them.—(Hear,
hear.) It was said that an agent from the Government
of Mexico had established an office in England, where
he gave to such persons as were desirous letters of
marque against the United States, and also letters of
naturalization as Mexicans, to protect such per-
sons who should be found fightine under those letters.
These two questions were—first, whether or not any
notice had been taken of this office on the appear-
ance of such an agent by her Majesty's Ministry
or the Government of the United Stater, and
whether the Government of the United States had
communicated with the Ministry of this country, and
what answer had been returned to that communication?
The next question was of a more complicated nature.
If persons were found, having those acts of naturaliza-
tion, fighting under the letters of marque, by the
United States, there was a determination on
the part of the United States to hang those persons, not
withstanding their acts of naturalization ; and theretore
he (Mr. Roebuck) wanted to know if any precaution
had been taken by her Majesty's Government to prevent
such a disaster—for he could call it no less—to any
British subject, and, if so, what correspondence had
taken place ?
Lord PALMERSTON said that, with regard to the
first question, her Majesty's Government had no know-
ledge of the facts to which the Hon. and Learned Gen-
tleman had just called the attention of the House. They
had no knowledge that such an agent had been
authorised by the Mexican Government to issue letters
of marque and acts of naturalization. He was aware
that an advertisement had been tendered to the Times
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showing that the Mexican Government had authorised
the issuing of those letters of marque. He (the writer
of the letter) did not know whether the person on
Tower-hill was authorised by the Mexican Government
person was authorised to do so. A correspondence had
taken place between the United States' Government
and her Majesty's Government, and the Minister of the
former country had alluded to something of this sort
taking place ; and ho expressed a hope that the British
Government would not allow such a proceeding in the
present state of affairs between Mexico and the
United States.—(Hear, hear.) He assured the
American Minister that he was unacquainted
with the circumstances to which he had adverted, and
that, as far as the law of the land furnished, he would
adopt such measures as he might think the occasion re-
quired. He might add, that he thought it right to put
a question to the law officers of the Crown whether,
if such letters of marque had been issued, what step
the British Government should take, in order to prevent
a rupture. With respect to the other question,_ it was
perfectly true that some time ago notice was issued to the
United States, that any foreigner found on board Mexi-
can ships should be summarily dealt with, and he (Lord
Palmerston) had communicated with Mr. Pakenham his
expectation that the United States Government would
not apply to British subjects the execution of that law.
Dr. BOWRING wished to know from the Right Hon.
Baronet, the Home Secretary, whether the report from
the Channel Islands' Commission had been received, and
whether, and when, it would be laid on the table of the
House.
Sir G. GREY replied that there had been no time to
make a dig.-st of the report as yet, but as soon as that
could be done it would be laid upon the table.
Mr. lIUME wished to ask the Lord-Advocate of
Scotland what measures were intended to be brought in
relative to the law of Scotland, in consequence of the re-
commendation of previous commissions.
The LORI). ADVOCATE replied, that the subject
was under consideration.
SUGAR DUTIES.
Mr. MOFFATT moved for a return of the amount of
duty received on sugar from the sth day of April, 1846,
to the sth day of January, 1847 ; specifying the amount
received under the different rates of duty.—Agreed to.
The Hoti. MEMBER also moved for a return of all
sugars that have been stepped for alleged inaccurate
entry at the Custom-houses of London and Liverpool,
between sth April, 1846, and sth January, 1847; specify-
ing the number of packages in each parcel so detained,
the respective dates of stoppage and release, and whe-
ther colonial cr foreign sugar. Also, the amount of
money now held in the said Custom-houses as pair: un-
der protest upon disputed claims in regard to these
sugars.--Agreed to.
Mr. 13ANKES presented a pi tition from Landlord,
in Dorsetshire, against the Poor Removal Bill.
OPENING THE PORTS.

On the motion of Lord JOHN RUSSELL, the House
went into Committee, to consider the propriety of tern
porarily suspending the laws relating to the importation
Of corn ; Mr. GREENE i❑ the chair.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said—Mr. Greene, so favour-
able a feeling was shown by the House on Tuesday
night to urge adopting the motion I am about to snake,
that I will not trouble the House with any lengthened
detail upon the subject. I will, however, state, as well
as I am able, what has heretofore been, and what is now
the general prospect of the country with regard to a sup
ply of food, and the reasons why I propose to advise the
[louse to suspend the corn•laws. The same reasons may
be urged with equal force for suspending the navigation
laws, the two subjects being closely connected together;
and immediately after Mr. Speaker resumes the chair it
is my intention to propose that the House do
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole

House to enable me to move the suspension
of those laws. With the permission of the Committee, I
will now proceed to state what were the results of the
last harvest. Upon the termination of the harvest state-
ments were made that the crop, with regard to corn, would
be considerably below the average, while the produce in
barley and oats in parts of England was very deficient.
But the greatest calamity with hich we have been

visited was the failure of the potato crop, which has
been most considerable in extent i❑ Scotland.

1 It has been stated to have extended to three-
fourths of the whole crop, but the exact amount
cannot be correctly ascertained, yet I have no doubt in
saying that it has extended to considerably more than
• half of the whole produce of that country. Of course,
Sir, this great and general failure of the potato crop has
had a ma'erial influence upon the prices of food. It was
impossible not to expect that the prices of corn required
for consumption in Ireland would be materially affected
by this failure of the potato crop. But, on the other
hand, there was; in the course of last year, a very large
importation of foreign corn, and of corn and flour 1
from the British dominions. The amount alto-
gether so imported appears, by a return which will
ill ►rtly be in the possession of Honourable Mena •
bers, to amount to the large quantity of 4,800,000
quarters. This is a very large supply, but it did
❑ot for some time come into 0011sUMpti01), nOtWithStilad-

. _
ing the reduction of the duty to 4s. on the passing of
the corn-law. It was for this reason that there,

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wort§ Ft ^ a ye 7 considerable rise in priQe3.

There was not a general apprehension that there wet. a
be insufficiency of food. With respect to this cow) ry.
the prices in October and in the course of November din
not show eny very considerable apprehension with
regard to the increase of the price of food,
as the prices of corn in the first week
of October last year was 545., in the second weel,
555. 10d , in the third 595. 10d., and in the fourth
61s. 9d. ; in the first week in November the price
was 61s. 3d., in the third 595. Pd., and in the
fourth 595. This shows rather a decline than
an increase of prices from the middle of October to the
end of November; but, Sir, from that time there has been
a very considerable rise in prices-a rise of prices very
considerable indeed, and of alarming character, when
the nature of the calamity is considered, coming,
as it did, immediately at the time of the hat-
vest.-(Hear.) The price of wheat in the month
of Augus'e I think, was 475.; on the Ist of September
it was 495.; but the price has risen in the course of the
present month-in the first week in January to 645. 4d.;
in the second week to 66a. 10d., and the week's average,
to the 16th of the pres( nt month, was 70s. 3d.
The returns show that for some years past there has
been a great increase in the price of barley. In Janu-
ary,
1842, the price of barley was 295. 7d., in
1843, 26s 5d., in the first week of 1844, 325. 7d., 1845.
345. 2d., 1846, 31s. 11d.• in the first week of 1847. 445.
3d., second week, 465. 5d., third week, 503. This 50s. did
not represent the true price at the present time. Sir, I have
said that this rise in the price has been in a great degree
unexpected by those who are engaged in the trade. I
will draw attention also to the state of the grain market
in France. I hold in my hand the report of the Minister of
Agricultural Commerce in France. In last year there
was a restriction on the supply in the grain of that
country ; nor was it in these countries alone
that the deficiency in the supply of grain was
experienced, to which he would immediately refer.
I have mentioned that in various parts of Scotland and
Ireland there had been, as was well known, a great tail-
ure of the potato crop, which has given rise to that great
distress of which we have heard so much, and which we
all so deeply deplore. lam speaking now of the effect
which this great failure has produced upon the general
supply of food, and the want which it has caused of an
additional supply of corn and other grain in the country.
Various statements have been made as to the actual
amount _ of the loss occasioned by the failure of
the potato crop. In money value, however, I
think that the general average estimate is not less than
twelve millions sterling. I do not hesitate to say that
a less sum than from four to five millions
would be required for the purchase of food,
of one description or another, to supply the de-
ficiency. I have elready stated, that during the
past year we have had a supply of 4,800,000 quarters of
corn from foreign ceuntries ; but, with reference to the
Supply that we may have to obtain during the
temainder of the year, and before the next harvest, it
is to be considered' that there are but very few parts
of the world from whence that supply can come,
There has been a great deficiency in the harvest in
France, Germany, and a great part of the west of Eu-
rope. Measures have been taken in most of those coup-
tries to supply that deficiency by the admission of corn
free of duty. A law has lately been passed in France
by which the importation of wheat is allowed free of
duty, and also allowing all ships of foreign
nations to enter the ports of France. Similar measures
have been passed in other countries, and in others the
exportation of corn has been prohibited. The stock
on hand in this country was very low, and it
was naturally expected that prices would be
high. There are two quarters from which a
quantity of corn may be expected to this country ; one
of those is Odessa. A large supply has already
been sent to France from that port, in conse-
quence of the importation having been so
greatly encouraged. I cannot speak accurately
of the quantity which has been imported, but at least
700,000 quarters have been imported, and there is no
doubt that a further supply will be sent in the spring, and
made available to meet the deficiency of this and other
countries. There has been a pretty fair average crop in
America of all sorts of corn. The harvests of wheat have
been abundant, and the quantity of Indian corn grown
is, perhaps, the largest ever known ; but, at the same
time, we required a very great part of that
supply to be sent to this country. However,
ships have been sent from Liverpool and other
places over there with the intention of bring-
ing to this country that supply of Indian and other sorts
of corn. Now, it appeared to me that such being the
state of the supply to this country, and such being the
deficiency, it had been found that we ought to remove
every impediment which was in the way of a supply to this
country from foreign ones. It appeared at first that the
duty of 4s. per quarter was not considered very large
and the importation of last year shows that it did
not prevent considerable importations of corn ; but
there are circumstances and cases in :which that
duty might, to a certain extent, limit the supply
brought to this country. For instance, it was for some
time a very nice balance be tween the prices of corn in
this country and France. For a short time, English
wheat was sent from the eastern counties of this country
to France, but that exportation lasted a very short time,
as the prices rose, and the balance was the other way.
When pi ices rose in France corn in bond here rose to
within Is. of tee price, so that the 4s. duty would mate-
rially alter the destination of many cargoes. For i.stance,
supposing the price at London to be 625., and the price
at Havre to be 605., the price at Havre would makg
than to bring it to London with a duty of 45. Supposing
that the same circumstances occurred to France, and a
similar duty existed, it weal hardly prevent any
great quantity from being brought to this country,
but at present the restriction imposed by the
4s. duty causes a considerable difference
in the quantities brought over into this country.
It is hardly in my power to say what quantity may
possibly come into this country through the suspension
of the present duty, but, whatever the quantity
may be, if it adds to the stock of food for the
consumption, it is worth our while to legislate
for it. Sir, in order to afford every facility for the in-
troduction of foreign grain, we propose that in regard
to corn the duty at present levied shall be suspended till
the Ist of September in the present year. That is the
proposition of her Majesty's Government. We shall
leave to Parliament afterwards to consider whether it is
expedient to continue the suspension, or to revert to
the law which is at present in operation. Ido not think
that any party in this House should oppose the proposi-
tion we have made.-(Hear, hear.) In regard
to the advocates of the corn-laws, it has never
been contended by them it was not admissible to suspend
the principle when great emergencies arose. In 1756,
in 1766, in 1790, in 1791, and in 1800, these laws were
suspended, and yet the Governments of those times
were advocates of protective principles. With regard to
those who are opposed to restriction, and who have
argued that in February, 1849, the duty shall be
reduced to Is., they can have no difficulty
in relation to this proposed suspension, because they
cannot hold that that which they consider a bad low,
even in times of good harvests and abundance, should be
a good law now, when there is a great pressure, and a
lamentable deficiency of food.-(Hear, hear.) Sir,
I now pass to another subject intimately connected
with the present question-I mean the navigation
laws. With respi ct to those laws considerable difficulty
has been found in procuring vessels for the purpose of
importing grain into this country, arising from the high
rate of freights in the United States of America. This
difficulty has been enhanced by the demands of the Arne
rican Government for vessels to transport troops and muni-
tions of war to the coast of America, considering the num-
ber of vessels that is necessary to supply carges of cor n
sufficient to meet the demands of this country for provi
sion. The rate of freights has been greatly raised.
What is the ordinary rate of freight compared with what
it is now ? The ordinary rate of freights at
Dantzic is 10s. per quarter; at present the charge is from
16s. 6d. to 17s. The ordinary rate at Odessa is Bs. ; it is
at present 13s. In the United States of Arm rice the ordi-
nary rate is 55.; at the present time it is front 12s. 6d. to 13s,
From the Baltic the freight is 3 9d. to 4s. 6:1.
Thera are some instances of freight still more remark-
able and still more affecting the supply of corn to Ire-
land from foreign countries. I shall quote one
instance ; the freight of a quarter of wheat from Loll
ion to Cork varies generally from Is. to Is. 2,1.-,
per quarter, at the present moment it averaged from 3s.
to 3s. 6d., and there is considerable difficulty in &die
vessels for the purpose of exportation. By a lower rate
of freightage we shall be able to employ some more of
our vessels, trim whence we anticipat, me,e good to
result.-(llear. hear.) When we reflect upon these
facts, and con-ider the whole of the circumstances,
I am sure that the House will join with me in thinking
that these restrictions should nut exist. I shall, there-
fore, propose a suspension of these laws. With respect
to the present state of the law, it is not me inten-
tion to say what alterations, if any, ought
to be introduced ; for I think that all parties
will consider that this is an occasion when such restric-
tions ought not to exist.--(Llear, hear.) Ido not mean
to enter into any unnecessary argument, or to pro-
voke any hostility by any observations of mine, and
I will therefore conclude by moving that the Chairman
propose the necessary resolution, which will enable We
to propose a suspension of the corn and navigation laws.
Mr. BANKES saii he felt no difficulty in rising to
second the resolution. The Noble Lord had stated, that
upon this suspension of the corn-lawn he anticipated no
discussion. He was not wrung in his anticipitation,
it was his opinion that the Noble Lord but
Peakd
not expect much benefit should be derived from the
passing of this measure, otherwise Parliament would have
been called together at an earlier period.- (Hear, hear.)
The Prime Minister could not but be aware that if he,
in the course of his duty, thought it expedient to pess
such a measure, it was in his power to h
indeed, abet) ntratiliteedtlt,hent
i
Legislature together-it might,
such a course would have been
nconvenient to
the Irish Members-but the English representatives
would have at once cheerfully consented on the be half of
y th
Ireland to the proposition, or any other, wonld have
been proved to them was for P benefit of Irelaed.
But he thought the Noble Lord
not calling Parliament togetherhad le"
Q4capsetlrift“:4l.
navigation for an alteration in the at
an
earlin'
on laws. They had
been told that there was plenty of grain to be found in
different parts of the world, and cons, quently the pply
difficulty that was to be met with. was q wq'nt of the
means of conveyance, and the; difficulty could only be
obviated by thu sus-
might havepen solohn-ioaftetdhenavigation laws. The
Ministry
that inconvenience by
calling Parliament together shortly
tion last year; and, as he had e„f. att,r Prgr"g4-
been inconyeri;tc:it observed, if it had
fee the Trish Members to attend, the
4ngli4h ge.mbers were ready, on the Dart of
freland, to attend for the sanction of t,he euie
pension of the navigation laws, Intermation
differed from that of the ticibie with -respect to the
last ,
httrice3t! ifs 12eitevg4 that there was tore don as

averse crop of corn in the west believed T
r might be deficient in quality, but he
indeed •
that there was more than an average quantity,
and
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ufficient to supply the deficiency of the potatober the '
of England, althoug e.
With respect to the rise in price, whet
*ty of the
formation were obtained through the contiguity
as
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southern countries to the coast of France, it It'a, le.
known by the farmers in those countries that
defieie t, Iles
harvest in France was likely to prove very
a dearth iu that country was likely to occur, 617 ww:„,
there would consequently be a rise in price; lace ;
therefore, anticipated that this rise would take, R
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notwithstanding that, however, the farmers ha!te,vret ,
tinued to send their corn to market, and they aid '
hesitate to do this, although they had reasenlonrx.i
pect a greater return for their grain.—(l.ectieue
A view had been taken by the friends of prbeot.e,, ie.
that at a period when the want of corn would
iti felt
this country, the prices of corn in other "'AA
would be guided by the prices in the t4ThN is
markets. Such appeared to be the case novf,ssarest
was: to other and more distant countries pose
'hey looked to for the supply which il.O 5 of.
required. He had the sincere satisfec i a
_.,4 .
e,
expressing on the present occasion a full, a fre
, Deehle
ntire concurrence in the proposition of the
L.OlOO
Lord. He shared with him in the appreue
to
'hat no great benefit would result from the stlegetfit •
of the duty, but if there was the smallest twee
, ;tog
to be derived, be agreed with the Noble Loral:lw p'
that the would be to blame if they , eetit
ee-
the supply of corn for one moment. He
_, ea for
the time which the Noble Lord had determitteu,„o,ol,
the remission of the duty was rather leng‘m gas -1
her
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but they must, of course, believe that
jesty's Ministers had exercised a sound d . lieu
All he had to say was that for his part—and he De f
he spoke the sentiments of others on that sideof;,-
the Hou-e—that they did not anticipate boa
great good from this concession. It., had ber for •
-aid by the Honourable and Learned Dom orth
Bath, dot the Right Hon. Member for Tatneece to
was 'entitled to the greatest praise with referee
the famine in Ireland. All he had to y the
with reference to that observation et le ight
Hon. and Learned Gentleman was, that when the, iini.
Hon. Member for Tamworth had pror7 Olt
thing for the relief of the famine in Irelanused it.
on that side of the House had not °Plot the •
One of the measures in regard to ir t
er °per.
Right Hon. Member for Tamworth bad Me, did
sitiou from them was the Coercion Bill. tlyiesd
not indeed know whether his Hon. and Lear sill .
considered that the passing of the Coercion Builesys to •
relieve the famine in Ireland, but he would beg let ell
remind the Hon. end Learned Member, and iff„f„ine ill.
Members in the House, that as regarded the isro teet
Ireland, the Right Hon. Member of Tamwortb!_, age
with no opposition whatever to any measures tlar r .
Liaised relief to that unfortunate country, for the 5 die
sea
tural Members bad over and over again exeres,,,,o,bet
desire to consent to all suspension of the duty e° Ziateber*
their overtures were rejected by the Right Honercotarsi
Ireland had, therefore, nothing to blame any agriunoa A •
Members for, and the committee might roll ()( sal •
those Members would never stand in the vial olee to
measure that was calculated in the slightest "ea
benefit Ireland. nt Or .
Sir H. W. BARRON regretted that the pretit_ goo
sure had not been brought forward before. 802 s. per.
parts of Ireland the price of wheat was noted
quarter, Bs. or 9s. higher than even those 4p feet
by the Noble Lcrd himself, and bearing ~I"_.` idea
in mind - the committee would have sont,e_ewel,
of the destitution of the people of Ir‘oill
when he told them, that with perhaps a ,a lr
of five, six, or seven children the highest 110Sia hie
bourer could earn was 10d. per day. Why, wlere there
own knowledge, in his own vicinity, not only 'vie vale
peop,dif a 19,
hundreds but thousands of unfortunate
upon one scanty meal, and yet labouring 'treat.... either
hours per day. They could not afford any Dr": Thle e
for themselves or any one of their fiunihe'theritt
was a fact which he stated upon his own %Bose. •'
without the slightest hesitation. He W3's ,eed bed
of two relief committees in that district, 04itation.,6,
the means of knowing the dreadful dea Par'.;''.,,
which existed in every part of that neighbourhor—on thete:.,:.
liatnect had no idea of the terrible destitutlepabill'
pervaded Ireland, while, from what he read in teneieee"
prints, the people of England appeared yet line aallielt
of I he dreadful condition in which the unfortunatebe city
of Ireland were living. On Thursday last, to tfased It
Waterford no less than 107 applicants were re _ties ,
mission into the union workhouse solely on 04,7,„ Or
the want of sufficient room to locate them' „weal e'
1 sician reported to the board that it would be,
.3 lat . .
to the lives not only of the applicants themselvl„ lie sli:.,
the inmates of the house from the crowded stu:stattes"
wards if they were admitted. Under these cireuwliaeath
they were forced to refuse admission to the 107 len. et , ,
but he was glad to say that the board, upon t" aspehl,
responsibility, had since taken another building,....../Otiss
of accommodating a considerable number teture.4 ger
of " Hear, bear.") There was not 1111104. if, iota
tlemen who attended the sessions one dissentlffor fa'
when the proposition was made for taxing htuf,geriaig
the relief of those poor pea sons who were
.a
..tienti
under the distre-ses that bad been justly and elei'lfe
set forth. He was one of those who be°, ail the'
upon himself a taxation of 28s. in the pouttle_, neer
property of the baronies for the support of the
property
for only three months of the year. He attended loss
Tarty at the sessions where be resided, and other reeled'
where the country gentlemen were ace re
to assemble, and where these matters wereoeaeo
.es ne ~..- __... --- --e• ...141 11l lion
where a landlord had set himself up in oppos4
to the principle that property was bound to suppe•
~,
the poor ; and yet they were told gravely by the prl: .
of this country, and that statement was retailed seeor.
hand in that House, by some second-band lawyfr.it
(Laughter)—that they had not performed tale
duties in reference to the poorer classes of their coUnt.fE
and that they were miserably deficient in all the du?:
which they owed towards those who were entitletlw.
, relief from the more affluent portions of the coullOnere
He asserted it without fear of contradiction, that thole
was not in the whole world a class who had come
nos
liberally forward towards the support of the %aft'
or had acted more magnanimously towards .en.
than the landlords of Ireland on the present vowel t•
: They had done this in the mode that was most aceesPial
able, and which clothed the act with proper 811°6 sof
dignity, for they had done it liberally, and without
was
i' eistiection of party or sect.—(Hear.) So grnnu
egiletril.
the calamity that impended over his unfortunate `e"t he re
yet he could not help thinking that it might le sue it
[ considerable advantage to that country,. and reso ate
from many of the • horrors that were inherent la its
1 organization of the country, and the vitiated staleoald
political condition, and he trusted that speedily Is orit
be delivered from the horrors that now cast aglow° °role
Mr. GOULBURN would not follow the 1:10°,ne„ twee
.` Baronet throughout the details of his address, 'Mot
' he had recently arrived from a place where the g"-tvell
' distress prevailed, and consequently he was Pie
! •
able to depict the nature of the sufferings of th°3:sa
to the House. It was perfectly natural for a gen epee
so situated, to press, iu warm languaglateiti'
the House the dreadful nature of the r- wee
which had visited his country, and iti kited
equally natural that he should feel 10%; the
at statements a hich, in his opinion, reflected nAn-tslie
character of his countrymen, and that he should t the
' the earliest opportunity of contradicting them. ~,11 seal
Honourable Baronet would not suppose that "" of
in the least degree indifferent to the
that country it he (Mr. Goulbourn) exhPiteh be
his opinion that that was not the occasion on !",.„-estieh
. should have taken an opportunity of entering la"- the
. distressadiscussion.—(Hear ) They all knew and felt fort it
existing in Ireland, and considered
_itin"ool
was the duty of England to come forward 110
ehtonatdirrbeeullyiteave the distress
single observateiosnotfo theff Irish iissuor'fruPeseln: g655ed000
concurred: in the o mereatsourtee whitunt'bht
Noble Lord had proposed, and he b.,n cur'
ranee
tshhatmidt
bweasunimreorsstatessaeundtietlh
u„neurre he
should carry with it to the peopleaa conviction of/ost
interest which iengland felt in the welfare of ofe
' land. He would not, however, avail himself of that
. opportunity to advert to the pest proceedings ei ;tete
House with respect to this subject, except, 0 ..od
that. the adoption of such a step at an earler Iles
which ,it was not
would have gone far to have alleviated the difficulty
prepared to me( t —(Ilear•)
question they had to consider was—were. they
tfhathtatthat coeuce
not to derive liked,
or advantage from the measure
in
sure r
To it heo gave his entire sesent, and he could ne ~00
help expressieg
doing ,e eel
his regret, that the a",,erhsee
of sueh 'a
be course, at an antecedent period svo,ui"„, do
been most adventitgeous ; as at the present Wein," ed
grain of the: foreign countries to which we ‘—iger
was most sdiw''ho
ifLitirchgausPePrbes' was
air"4Y
engaged
by
°I
it
r 55 ouh tool
pi:-
e;
st hito(oel
suspension
4 tosytito:fer might ntcsi
toi n d
tiller fifeevrart.gh e
thugs
asdi
v1116;t ebog!'orc.l:
were eampeting for its possession; Yea.
plus reillitt:'d".lll
the continuance of the
le to obtain possessionof whatever 5 ~1 .
Para f
tom
theour
this arininent applied even
,with greater force, ati°ll_aii:
had suspended her nevi
the same adventarge
would have had
getting corn into F ptton laws for the Pun"' net
anoei and, therefore, they ha toed
with th • ships asad
such ii course. Corteif frroatunCQAcmil'heraidca,ufoort insliafl
would be carried te .„eioita
ships `bee inf. 0 ?ranee when the i- -:has
the • - °Med at the nearest port ded
that in order to keep
navigation lea's of France had been stlePen
He thoughtequal,fouting with f • oreign countries, the suspension.ol ‘l•9
navigation laws during h
1,0 urgent eriod of distress tee
Id a measure quite nec
~, , ressary, and from which no one COO ~
disseet, 8414 For hie Dalt part he did assent to
xi"la,", freely. At the
4'l
too ter:4 and
so tirOVV. obstacles
he took the same time 40 was the
sure Pullbont
the House woulil not suppose him a d if
themselves
son e!:
in- the (scope about to be Pures,e;,.sly
e question
Pre,;4lit opportunity of preserving el!"--t
to himspif tb • .
the navigation 1 • ce
with them a,.ws; or of prohibiting any itligferen ,
in respe
no be eeowthidoe!rreefttlin
strictness of of any further suspension
eoitthheerr ineo:iroe
utediesyttr of
aeorloil
any other
be r;o44cied Irons adhering to the
ess these P7'elgetion laws, by the vote he should
give that Wgt-el. ti,lini Should he be precluded from e°lllll.'
deriiri4 itRY Poiut that might arise with regard t°
t4t1,11 by ' what might take ptlaoe on the preseot
oeoasion.ll He thought it eight to put in this resereatitn.
With respect 4-4 these lowa, he had only further cut
press is 'PRP O M the measures they were then
"„,
to take might be the ne
fatnino in this country, and that " ullnYing
Wit those who were now suf-
fering under the Politest depths of privation and dis-
tress woWiel sap, in the readiness with which the dif"
ferent interests in this couP3ry had given UP those
points for which they 4 4.a heretofore contended as naOse
the cry oz
important, witheett a mom ta hesitationlte ar*
evidence of the kr - relit on ,
ya • .. 8 OOg,eintl liberal feeling of a Brlpa'
rizeeAeLA t 9, tr4lo4e 24 Wlsubjects in 4a* ern' -'
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