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EX2OFPICIO INFORMATIONS.

Lord HOLLAND called the recollection of their
Lonkhips to the, Bill he had the,honour of intro- ,
duchig upon this subject last Session. . On account
of the unfavourable periOd, and the thinness of
the attendance, when its discussibn took place,
he thought a subject of such importance had not
adequate justice, as. a. very small proportion of
their Lordships had expressed their sense upon it.
And he acquainted the House, he thought it his
duty to take an early opportunity, After the re-
cess, of bringing forward a similar

GOLD CbLN BILL.
The Order of the Day, upon which their Lord-
ships were summ, oned, being reud,
'The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the second read-
ing of the above mentioned the ques-
tion,

The Marquis of LANSnowNE said, •he should
defer a few observations he bad to 'offer on the
subject, till the next stage of-the Bill, ,when, to-
morrow, on account Of the consideration, of the
Prince Regent's Message, there .probably Nv:ould
be a more considerable attendance.

The Earl of LiVr:11,1'001, observed, be had no ob-
jection to defer any discussion:upon the subject,
until the next stage of the Bill, if any Noble
Lord thought it might be more conyenieiltly taken
up, as perhaps the House would be'fuller to-nior-
row, on the consideration of his Royal Ilgisness
the Prince Regent's'Message.
The Bill was then read a second time, and com-
mitted for to-morrow.

The Household Bill was brought up from the
Commons, by Mr. LUSHIN GTONi and other Mem-
bers, and lead a first time.

Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS,
THURSDAY, DEC. 17.
On the motion of Mr. LEActi's a new Writwas
ordered far the Borough bf Appleby, in the room
of Me. Courtenav, who has since his .election, ac-
cepted of the Chiltern hundreds.
• Mt% H. THORNTON presented a Petition from
the Inhabitants of Mary-le-bonne parish, raying
an improvement in-the lighting, paving, &c. of
that parish,
Sir r. BuuDETT.preserftd the Petition Of James
Philip Inglis, the substance of which we laid be-
fore our readersl yesterday. The, Petition was
read by the Clerk.
The S7EAKER • observed, that as the Petition
prayed for remuneration for lCsses
.sustained, it
-yea.; inconsistent with the usages of the House to
entertain it unless it came recommended by the
Crown.. He wished to ask the lion. P,,aronet if
the Petition same so recommended ? '
Sir F. BURDETT answered in the negative, and
after a conversation with the Spaaker; withdrew
the Petition.
Sir H. Al",Lniuitv gave notice, that it -as his
intention,- shortlynfter the recess, to submit a
motion to the House-, relating to the expellees in-
curred by the parishes through the poor left in
lsarracks, and also to call the attention. of the
House to the exemption of houses used for will=
tary purposes from paying, poor rates.
ASSISTANCE TO RUSSIA.
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER brought
down a Message to the Prince Regent, which was
. read, and was as, follows.:—.

" GEORGE, P. R.

"The PRINCE I:iron:N:1', acting. in the name, and on the
half of his NIA:InsTv, having taken into his serious\ considera-
tion theAcconnts which he has received of the severe dis-
tressses to which the inhabitantsof &Part of the Empire of
Russia have been exposed in their persons and property, in
consequence of the unprovoked an2l atrocious invasion of that
country by the Ruler of France.; and the exemplary and ex-
traordinary magnanimity and fortitude with which they

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conquerable spirit they have displayed in' Its cart, wherchf
,results have been produced of the- utmost importance to the
interests of this kingdom, and to the general cause of Eu-,
rope; recommends to.tlh, House of Commons to enal)le his
Royal Highness, in aid of the contributions which have
.been commenced within the Russian Empire for this pur-
pose, to afford to the suferitsg subjects of his Majesty's
good and great Ally, the Etiaperor. of Russia, pith speedy
and effeetttal relief as may be suitable to this most interesting

occasion.

" G. P. R."

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHREWER, moved,
that his Royal Highness's' most gracious Message
should .be reterrcd to a Committee of Supply.
Mr. WHITBREAD did not intend to
.oppose:the
motion for referring the Mes Sage of the Princa
Regent to a Committee of Supply; but he thought
it would better become an English House, ot
Commons, at a period like the,present, to vote
something to relieve the _suffering subjects ot
this country, before they carried their generosity
so far as to relieve the subjects of Russia where it
may be misplaced, and could be of little avail.
He W. :mid say no more now ; his object in rising,.
was int'rely to lay open the grounds on, which
his intention to oppose' the grant to -
Morrow.

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The CHANCELLOR Of the. ExcnotWEn said, it
the Hon.. Gentleman should persist in his design
to oppose the grant to-morrow, he should then
be prepared to state why he thought it was called
for,,hot- only by humanity and justice,
_but by
sound policy, and the interests of this country.
S,k F. BURDETT altogether dissented from the
Right Hon. 'Gentleman, in the view be took of
the subject. Not oury did he think a grant of the
nature of that proposed most extraordinary, in
our present circumstances, but he thought it most
insulting to the people of this country.
Mr. STEPHENS dissented altogether from the
Hon. Baronet.; and far from thinking such a grant
to a brave people, so nobly struggling, would be
felt insulting to the people of this country, he
was c3nfident they would feel insulted by lan-
guage liketlrat held by the Honourable Baronet.
In such a case, he contended, liberality was sound
policy. He could easily conceive that those who
considered the sacrifice which had been made in the
conflagration of Moscow, not as an heroic sacrifice,
which was to be 'applauded, but as a selfish and un-
necessary destruction of property, would not be
disposed to admit that any relief could, with jus.,
tice, be given the nnfortutnate sufferers. To him,
however, who. saw in the conflagration of Mos-
cow
a' most heroic sacrifice to the love of country,
not, equalled in the history of antiquity by Segun-
tum or 'Eumantia, nor in Modern times even by
Saragossa;—to him It- did not appear wrong in
England to endeavour to alleviate the distresses of
this gallant people in a straggle which was likely
to be productive of tlie happiest results, and which
might even save the land we live in. • If England
were invaded by a foreign enemy, it might perhaps
be necessary to sacrifice even London, and English-
men would not be backward intnaking even such
a sacrifice to preserve -th,eir independence. The
sacrifice of Moscow mighthave-contributed to
prevent the sacrifice of
.London. He was st:re
when he recollected what the Eon. Baronet had
ormerly said of the dist! eses of.-the people 'of
1....105c0w, that he must" do great violence to his
feelings, if he opposed a proportion for affording
than relief. If what he might be able to con:„tti
bate Would not greatly assist the Russians, 'at least
it was fitting that we should let them see that we
Sympathised • with them in their distreses, and
that we participated in their hatred of the common
enemy.
Mr. PONSONBY said, the. Messege of the Prince
Regent had tak6 him by surprise, as he had not
the slightest previous intimation that such an ap-
plieation was to be made to Parliament ; but at
the same time, whateverview might be taken of
it by those Gentlemen with whom he,was in the
habit of acting, he had by no means decided. on
opposing the grant recommended: His mind we*
not made up on the subject.. He should take the
interval- afforded him, to form his opinion by to-
morrow, but he wished to state that he• by no
means fixed his mind upon opposing it.
Mr. ROSE wished to say a few words. The
. Hon. Baronet had said, to afford relieflo the peo-
ple of Russia would be to insult-Ole people of
country: He believed that if ever a motion made
to grant money to a foreign power had beelt
agreable to the people, this, of all others, was
that which would be most advantageous to, their a
interests. He had perfect conviction on his
that dig interests of the people of this
country would be best consulted by agreeing td
the measure recommended by the Message. lie
would'ask if it was not to the exertions of those
• whom it was now proposed to relieVe, that v 44
were indebted, for the prospect we now 'enjoyed)
of a lucrative trade opened to the people of Oil
country Nothing could furnish a stronger iii'
stance of the heroism of th Russian people, thafi
was supplied by the voluntary sacrifices they hg
made. Nothing could more 'strongly 'mark the
Russian character than the conduct of a Russild
Nobleman at Moscow. He lad set fire to hi'
own palace before the ene'iny entered, that 1,
might afford him no shelter, arid. this example teal
follewed by the people down to the lowest classC
who, with the same feeling, fired their habitatiol-e.
of. 1500 followers appertaining, to the4Noblemas
be had alluded to, those who were able to sera
had joined the army, ,and those Who were ilia
tpabre of doing this had burnt their miserablehed
regardless of. the ConSequetices to themselves, 0
they foiled the enemy. It might be said, the
whatever we might contribute would be too
significant greatly to alleviate the distresses
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the Rtissians, but we ought at least to chew
sympathy, and marl: distinctly to:thein how live)
an interest we takein'the struggle hi which old
are engaged.
Lord NUGENT, like. his Right. Hon. Rid
(Mr. Ponsonby), bad not .mad:: Up leis mind 01;
the subject. He wished to guard against givi
any pledge one way or the other,, but he did 0'
hesitate to say that he had a strong dispOSition
support the, grant-3 to give any thing we, coal'
possibly afford to support the Russian people 0,
the magnificent struggle they were now makia
,in the cause of Europe, and the world at large.
Mr. LOCKHART was surprised that any • u,4

, fended/the policy of the grant., and onservea, it
ought to, be remembered the people of Russia
had been placed in their preient situation, by the
determination of the Emperor Alexander not to
subscribe to the Code Napoleon.
On the Motion of Mr. ABERCROMBY, Accounts
of all original Causes, Pleas, Hearings, and Ap-
peals, now before the Lard Chancellor, Were or-
•• dered to he laid before the House.
, Mr. WHITBREAD moved, that an Address should
Pe presented to the
,Prince Regent, praying his
Royal Highness-to lay before the House such in-
' 'formation "as would she* whether the Keeper of
the King's Privy Purse, or the person appointed
by the Queen to attend to if, had taken the oath
enjoined by, the 51st of the King, Cap. 1,. Sect.
28, before the Barons of the Exchequer, 'not to
'employ its contents fOr electioneering plirpOses ?•
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, When
the Hon. Gentleman gave notice of this motion,
)iat-1 understood it to relate to the Commissioners
- of his Majesty's Property, and not 'to the Keeper
of the privy Purse. He had since made inquiries
accordingly, and found that the oaths had been
regularly taken by the Commissioners. • He wish-
ed the present motion to be.postponed, not that
he had any doubt of they oath having been taken
• by the Keeper- of the Privy ?arse, hilt because,
; .not having inquired into the subject, he could not
state that it had been taken, which, if • the nio-
. tiOn" were postponed,. he expected-. to' be able
to do. •
Mr. WHITBREAD bad no objection to postpone
motion till to-morrow 3 and after a short eon-
. sv.ersation between ,hint and Mr. Bathurst, post-
, • polled it accordingly.
. SPANISH ,CAMPAIGN. _ -

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Lord NUGENT gave notice, 'that soon after the
`holidays it was his intention to move for certain
Papers, explanatory of the conduct of the late
campaign in Spain: - • -
The CHANCELLOR Of the FACHE6tUFR. in. mov-
ing thi, third reading of the HOusehold.Bal., pro,
posed to omit two of the clauses which had been
objected to, not on account of what had been
said of them in ,that House, but from other cir-
. cunistances. The Bill so curtailed was read- a
third. time and ,passed.
AMERICA.

Mr. WIXITBREAD, in consequence of the late
arrival} from imerica., which had brought the Pre-
eident's speech, begged to .ask the Noble Lord
(Lord Castlereagh), if before the recess it was his
intention to lay certain papers forming different
correspondences before the House. One part of
the President's speech alluded to a 'proposition
made for aso *pension of the war soon after its
declaration ; and another proposition was noticed,
'which he 'supposed to be a seco,. '..proposition
from Mr. Russell before ,he ;je wished
to know to what the Noble Lord considered
the President's Message to' allude ? He thought it
very desirable that every information should be
given befor the recess.
Lord CASTLEREAGaapprehended the Honourable
Centleman was mistaken in his idea, the, to pro-
eace the papers alluded to before the Holidays
would accelerate things as he wished. It was ne-
cessary they should be printed, which could not '
be done before the recess. He had no disposition
to deny that it was the intention of Government,'
at the proper moment, to lay before the House
the papers alluded to, and to take the sense of
Parliament upon them.. It Nvasnot judged proper
at present,
,as Ministers WclCnot in possession of
the result of • the overtures made through Admiral
Warren. - He should feel it his duty to lay before
the House immedietely after, the recess, unless
there should be reasons, for, withholding them.
A proposition. had been made _through Mr.
Russell, which it had been thought proper to re-
ject. • After Mr. Russell sailed,, a seeondptopo,si_
tion had been made through the Agedt for Pri-
soners ; but this was considered as yholly nn-
'official, and bad been declined;for a. reason which
would be seen when the correspondence Was proL
duced. '
. Mr. WHITBREAD said, as the American Cur-
espondencr was usually very voluminous, it
desirable that it should. be. produced, so that
Members might, have an opportunity of reading it
,before the House Met again. •
Lord CASTLEREAGH, for the reasons.he had al-
ready stated,.said it was impossible to comply with
the wish of the Ton. Gentleman.
The CHANCELLOR tire EXCHECUER gave ;no-
tice, that lit to-merrrow, in the Committee of
SUpplY, should move a Grant to the .Suffering
Russians, in pursuance Of the Prince Regent's
Message. In answer to a question put to bins
across the table, as to the amount of the sum 'it
was.intended to grant, he said; without. pledging
, himself tothat particular sum, it was in contem-
plation to propose 200,0001. • •
Accounts of the Regulars and Militia forces
were ordered to be laid before the House.
Mr• 'WHARTON .presented Accounts of the Net
. Receipt% of the 'Permanent, Annual, and -War
Taxes "for the year' ending sth Oct. 1812. Order-
edto lie on the table. .
Mr. LUSHINGTON presented a Petition f:oln the
Owners and Occupiers of Land, &c. in Kent, pray-
ing relief. from the enormous expence incurred by
the erection of a new jail, &c. at Maidstone, the
expellee of which was estimated at two hnndred
and fifty thousand pounds.---brdered to lie on the
tahle.---Adjourned. . ,

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The follawing is' a correct list of the Russian
fleet, arpived at Chatham :,--
. -
SHIPS NAMES. ' GUNS; CO3I3!ANDERS.
Chabroy .. , ......... . llO Commodore Bute hensky
74f Rear-Admiral Karopka
Parnetgeftavi . A Captain Butchensky
Sincloy .. .
Trechavutitel "
74 74 --!---- Rose
,

....sorey
Severdaja Sw.;:d, ----7 Porahehen
Jupiter 74 Commodore Boyle •
Oriel, 74 Capiain Dernoff
IVliranosetz • 74 -4--- Moore • .
Tshesma , 74 -;-4----- Sifishmtineff
Viuera . 36 ---- Heldebraud
rg
{Adwiral Tate
Sverb-a
. 36 Captain Btitchensky
. -------- Nivetky
..-s.rchi, Polozolf
Illelputuell - W.aselesslcy
Gernqon 24 --D..— Bojadanolf
Ganez, brig ls' Captain Lieutenant Gefirrigef
, I Vice-Admiral Crown
Nord Alger 7`tl Captain Hamilton
0' Netron ‘ • 74 ' mithoil '
- -1 --"' Ternosslcy , .

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LAW inportr

COURT OF KING'S BENC'H, Dyc. 17

CASTER V. ARMSTRONG.

This was an action for the folloWing words :
‘.‘ You're a rogue you wanted to bribe the car-
penter to sink the ship, in order to cheat the un-
derwriters."

The plaintiff and o:bers bad bought the ship in
question ; and Lord ELLENBOROUGH charged the
Jury to gyre temperate damages for an imputa-
tion of no less a crime than 'felony.

The Jury found for the plaintiff.—Damages 30/