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JUNE 10, 1847.

you hold him exculpated We, therefore, who venerate
our clergy, and must feel as an insult to ourselves any
attack or slight thrown upon them, have no means of
judging if the reparation were due and sufficient, and,
declining. altogether to enter into particulars, you, to use
the words of the remonstrance of the Cashel clergy,
take on yourself to say that the charges Captain
Norris did make were partly deserved.'
"You must pardon us for saying that this course does
not seem consistent with the cornmonest fair play. If
the charges were not to be established, they should not
have been made. As they have been made, it is due to
the respected parties assailed—clergymen held in .the
highest veneration by their flocks and by the Catholic
community generally—that they should be confronted
with their reckless accuser, and given the opportunity of
vindicating themselves. If you persevere in refusing,
we are bound to say that you in a manner proclaim to
the Catholic people of Ireland that their clergy may be
insulted with impunity by every petty official ; and that
no redress, but, on the contrary, an adoption of the
insults, is to be expected from the Government.
" We are, sir, your obedient servants."
Mr. O'CONNELL (in continuation) wished it to be ob-
served that that letter should not be regarded as ema-
nating from the Repeal Association, but from the Roman
Catholic Members of Parliament generally. If the
Government persevered in refusing that reparation
which, it was conceived, was due to the feelings of the
Catholic clergymen in question, it would be necessary to
bring the matter under the consideration of the House
of Commons, and have the whole correspondence
brought to light.
Mr. JouN O'CONNELL having handed in several re-
mittances, gave notice that he would, on the next day of
meeting, move that a financial committee be appointed,
whose sole business it would be to manage the monetary
affairs of the Association. The Honourable Gentleman
then, at some length, urged on the Liberal constituencies
of Ireland to make instant preparation for the coming
elections, which he believed to be near at hand.

After the dispatch of some unimportant business, the
rent for the week was announced to be 684 3s. 3d.
The meeting then adjourned.

ELECTION MOVEMENTS.

REPRESENTATION OF THE BOROUGH OF

MARYLEBONE.

On Tuesday evening a numerous meeting of the elec-
tors of Marylebone took place at the Exmouth Arms
Tavern, Hampstead-road, for the purpose of hearing the
political sentiments of Lord Dudley Stuart. Charles
Eden Wagstaff, Esq., Churchwarden of St. Pancras,
occupied the chair.
Lord DUDLEY STUART, on rising to address the meet-
ing was received with great applause. The Noble Lord
having apologised for his inability to attend a previous
meeting on account of his domestic affliction, proceeded
to announce himself a Liberal in the strict sense of the
word. He had sat in Parliament during the most event-
ful seven years, perhaps, in the annals of this country.
He was in the House of Commons during four Parlia-
ments, and assisted in the great struggle for the Reform
Bill, against Tory intimidation and Tory corruption.—
(Cheers.) By the Reform Bill, the demon of corruption
bad been to a great extent exorcised, but he did not
hold the Reform Bill as a perfect measure, or one that
ought to be final ; he felt that much good had been done
by it.—(Cheers.) Catholic emancipation and the aboli-
tion of negro slavery, were some of the results, but
although this was the case, and that the Reform Bill
had extended the franchise, it had done nothing to pro
tect the voter.—(Hear, hear.) He (Lord Dudley Stuart)
felt that therefore he was bound, in order to protect the
voter, to support the vote by ballot.—(Cheers.) It was
true he had voted when in Parliament against the short-
ening of the duration of Parliament; but he had now
seen good reason for altering his opinions, and declaring
himself in favour of a shorter duration of Parliaments.—
(Cheers.) He (Lord Dudley Stuart) had voted with
Mr. T. Duncombe for a repeal of the rate-paying clauses
of the Reform Act, and he was for the extension of the
franchise ; but in the present state of the country he
could not give his adhesion to universal suffrage.—
(Hear, hear.) The Health of Towns Bill was a most
important measure, but all was not gold that glittered,
and he was not prepared to support a Bill which deprived
Englishmen of the privilege of local self-government.—
(Cheers.) He believed that the existence of our local
institutions was the mainstay of English independence,
and therefore was opposed to the principles of centrali-
zation, and the new Poor-law as a part of that system.
—(Cheers.) Another most important matter was the
government scheme of education. He (Lord Dudley
Stuart) gave his support to the measure so far as it went,
but he considered ix might be extended still further for
the benefit of the country at large.—(Hear, hear.) He
was a member and supporter of the established church in
this country, but at the same time he wished that no
civil disabilities should exist on account of religion.
With respect to foreign policy, he (the Noble Lord) be-
lieved his conduct with regard to Poland had shown
that be was the opponent of tyranny, although at the
same time he was not, as had been alleged against
him, the advocate of war on that account.—(Hear,
hear.) He was most disirous that they should cultivate
kindly feelings with their neighbours:the French people,
and he was the friend of peace and justice all over the
world.—(Hear, bear.)
In answer to a question put, Lord Dudley Stuart said
he would not, as an honest man object to the endowment
of the Roman Catholic priesthood, nor would he object
to do so with regard to Independents, Wesleyans, Rap-
tists.—(Ob, oh I and hear, hear.) His Lordship further
said he objected to pledge himself to any measure,
because he considered it unconstitutional.—(oh, oh !
and hear, hear.)
Mr. Churchwarden HOWARTH moved a resolution to
the effect, " That the thanks of the meeting be given to
Lord Dudley Stuart for the frank expression of his po-
litical opinions."
Mr. HETHERINGTON seconded the motion which was
adopted, with a few dissentients.
Mr. Seargeant SHEE, in answer to loud calls, came
forward to address the meeting. He had not the advan-
tage of the Noble Lord of being rocked and dandled
into a legislator. He had had through life to present
his ticket at the gate; and he now came before the
electors of Marylebone to cope with the Noble Lord.—
(Cheers.) He (Sergeant Shee) did not apprehend, like
the Noble Lord, the smallest danger from the immediate
advancement to household suffrage—(Cheers)—and when
instruction and education advanced he would have no
fear of a greater extension still.—(Cheers.) He would
vote for the ballot whenever proposed, and he would
also vote for Mr. Ward's motion with respect to the
Irish church. With regard to the Catholic clergy of
Ireland, he would never consent, please God, that a
a single farthing of the hard earned money of the Pro-
,estant Dissenters and Jews of England should be taken

out of their pockets to support the Catholic church of
Ireland.—(Loud cheers.) After complaining that the
Noble Lord, although he had done a great deal for the
Poles, had done nothing for the people of England, and
that he had come to supplant him as a candidate far that
borough, Mr. Sergeant Shee declared that ho would
carry the contest to the close, and be believed the result
would be that he should be member for Marylebone.—
(Loud cheers, oh, oh ! and laughter.)
A vote of thanks was subsequently voted to the &lair-
man, and the meeting separated at a late hour.

HOP INTELLIGENCE.
MAIDSTONE.—The bine continues to grow, although
not so fast during the last few days, the nights being cold.
The fly is decreasing. What few there are will mostly
be found in the runners on the ground.
LITTLE CHART AND PLucKLEY.—The bine is grow-
ing very fast, but much infested by fly.
BETHERSDEN AND SMARDEN.—The bine in general is
growing very fast, and looks promising.
BIDDENDEN.—The bine generally is growing well,
and looks very healthy. The fly during the last few
days has been rather on the increase.
BHENCHLET.—The bine continues to make great pro-
gress, although thickly beset with fly.
CRINBROOK.—We have a considerable increase of fly
since our last report, but it has not retarded the progress
of the bine, which still continues healthy and in a
flourishing state.

GOLDHURST, JUNE 6.—We are getting very full of
fly; as many as fifty or sixty on a leaf in some garden!,
though at present not quite general. The bine is in
general good, though getting rather yellow from the
cold nights we have had of late.
HEATIIFIELD, JUNE s.—The bine continues in a very
growing state, but the unpropitious " north-easter" of
the last week is bringing the fly in rapidly increasing
numbers; so much so, that where from twenty to thirty
only were to be found on Tuesday, from forty to fifty
were counted on Thursday, since which the virulence of
the wind from the same point has still further increased
their number ; and its rage during the last night must
have also in exposed gardens considerably ruffled the
bine, the gale still continuing with periodical and tem-
pestuous gusts. A warm shower of several hours'
duration would now doubtless be very timely, as well
for hops as for the crops generally, the seedling crops
especially.
MAYFIELD.—The hops are very full of fly; the bine is
altogether very strong and healthy, and at present seems
not the least injured by the fly.
PEASHARSH, JuNe 3.—The hops in the neighbour-
hood are growing rapidly and are of good colour ; since
Saturday last fly has made its appearance and increases
daily.
SALEHUREM.—The late beautiful weather has pro-
duced its effect on the corn and hops in this neighbour-
hood to a surprising degree. There is a great increase
of flies on the hop bine in this and the adjoining parishes,
but the bine grows at a most rapid rate.

LORD CASTLEREAGH'S "JOURNEY TO DAMASCUS"
is at length published, and certainly there have been
few books of travels announced That have excited
greater attention. ass onl are te
invested wiecountries th
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rough
which the author p
deepest interest to Christians of all denominations, as
the theatre of events recorded in both the Old and New
Testament, but the manner in which they are described
cannot fail in securing the attention of the general
reader, particularly a , the work conveys a most ani-
mated picture of the East in our own day, including the
stupendous monuments of Egypt, and Nubia, the desert
tracts of Arabia Petrce.a, and their wandi-ring inhabi-
tants, of the Jiely Land
tants, the sacred I And the
nountaiins and aheree of Syria.

THE NAVIGATION LAWS.

The Select Committee appointed to inquire into the
operation of the navigation-laws re-assembled on Tues-
day morning in Room No. 2, to continue that inquiry.
Members present, Mr. Ricardo, Mr. Mitchell. Mr. Lyall,
Mr. Alderman Thompson, Mr. Hume, Mr. Liddell, Sir
George Clerk, Sir Howard Douglas, Admiral Dundas,
Mr. Thomas Baring, Sir Robert Peel, Mr. Charles
Pelham Villiers, and Mr. Milner Gibson, chairman.
Tho Committee proceeded with the cross-examination
of Mr. George Frederick Young.
With the permission of the Chairman, Mr. Young
produced a certificate from Mr. Jansen, an eminent
underwriter at Lloyd's, and from the Secretary to the
Marine Insurance Society, both to the effect that the
statements made by him on a former occasion, with
regard to the rate of insurance being equal on both
foreign and English ships, and that they would assure a
Dantzic oak-built ship at six per cent. for the whole
year, at which rate they also assured a ten years English
oak-built ship.

By Mr. Mitchell—lle was not award that the state-
ment made by Mr. Jansen had been submitted to most of
the leading underwriters at Lloyd's, and that they had
refused to put their names to it. _

By Mr. Ricardo—He considered that the ports of this
country were used as the great emporiums for the re-
ception of the produce of the distant quarters of the
world in consequence of that restriction of the Navi-
gation Act which prevented the importation from any
port in Europe for consumption in this country. If
the navigation-laws were repealed, and the cost
of warehousing were less in Antwerp than in
this country, the Dutch merchant would warehouse
his importations in Antwerp and not in England. He
had been told, upon very credible authority, that the
cost of warehousing in Antwerp was much cheaper than
in this country. The whole of the German market was
at preaantopen to the Dutch merchant, and if the market
of England were added to that the inducement to ware-
house his goods at Antwerp would be infinitely greater
to the Antwerp merchant. Ships were continually ar-
riving at Cowes for a market ; and they waited there
until the consignee had ascertained the best market to
which to send her cargo. These ships, however, were
chiefly laden with coffee and sugar.
By Sir George Clerk—He was fully aware of the im-
portance of encouraging the system of warehousing
goods He was not able to say why goods were ware-
housed in this country for foreign consumption, not-
withstanding that the expense of warehousing was
less abroad than in this country. He did not think
it was owing to our insular position and the
facilities of our harbours, for the chief ports for
warehousing were London, Liverpool, and the
Clyde. If all foreign countries were to adopt navi-
gation-laws similar to our own, this country
would be placed in a particular disadvantage. He did
❑ot think that would be obviated by a system of reci-
procity, because he was of opinion that the results of re-
ciprocity between two countries would be that the raw
material would be imported into the one country in the
ship only of that country in which it was produced,
while the other would only have the exportation of the
manufactured goods—a most serious inconvenience to
this country, as the bulkier articles required for menu-
Factures would all be carried by the ships of other
countries.
By the Chairman—There was little or no profit at the
' present time on the export trade ; the import trade only
was profitable. The export trade at present was open to
Foreigners, and if the import trade were also opened to
foreigners, he thought the result would be great depre
ciation and disadvantage to the shipping of this country.
By Mr. Villiers— He had already stated that the
effect of freight on commerce was very much overrated ;
a difference of 11. or 2/. made no alteration in the price
of the article carried. He attached more importance to
the shipping as a national interest than as the interest of
individual shipowners. All the shipowners asked was,
that the capital embarked by them in their trade should
not be reduced, by the trade being taken away from them
by the unrestricted admission of foreigners into our car-
rying trade to such an extent as would render it im-
possible for them to maintain the competition. His views
on this point were with regard to the present, and not
to the future race of shipowners. The cost of produc-
tion might be diminished, but not to a level with the
cost of production in the cheap competing countries. He
could conceive such a state of things, but he should
object to the sponging away the national debt, without
which they could not hope to compete on equal terms
with the cheap nations.

The Chairman—Are you in favour of the shipowner
purchasing his provisions in the cheapest market?
Mr. Young—Certainly Ism.
The Chairman—ls it an advantage to the shipowner
to purchase his provisions in the cheapest market?
Mr. Young—lt is a great advantage, and they were
glad to get what they required in the cheapest market.
The Chairman—Would it not be a benefit to the Bri-

tish farmer to import his commodities in the cheapest
ships?
Mr. Young—He did not think so, because the reduc-
tion in the price of imported commodities would be so
immeasurably small, that it would not reach the con-
sumer.

The Chairman—But might not the farmer say, that
the reduction in the price of provisions would be so im-
measurably small, that it would not reach the ship-
owners ?
Mr. Young—He did not think so, because corn being
a bulky article, and therefore paying a high freight, the
farmer had still some protection.
The Chairman—But the protection being taken away
from the farmer, you are still prepared to maintain the
protection to the shipowner?
Mr. Young—You cannot repair one injury by inflict-
ing a second.
Mr. Villiers—You were opposed to the protection of
the agricultural interests, for you voted for the abolition
of the sliding-scale.
Mr. Young—He did not think it just that the farmer
should be deprived of all protection. He had always
been in favour of a fixed duty.
Mr. Alderman Thompson wished to know what the
corn-laws had to do with the navigation-laws?
The Chairman—The navigation-laws have to do with
the importation of corn.
Mr. Alderman Thompson moved that the room be
cleared.

The Chairman—Stop a moment. I do not wish to
inquire into the corn•laws, but I must insist on my right
to put these questions, which are perfectly relevant to
the inquiry.
Mr. Alderman Thompson protested against the chair-
man making a speech after he had moved that the room
be cleared.

Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. On our
re-admission,
By the Chairman—Witness was aware that the
farmer was exposed to unlimited competition with the
continent in the articles of corn, cheese, butter, and
cattle; but, notwithstandinc, that, be would still main-
tain protection to the British shipowner.
The Chairman was parsuing this course of inquiry
when the Committee were summoned to prayers, and
they accordingly adjourned until this day.