The Sun.
London, England, 1840-11-19 00:00:00

THl4] SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY, NO 19 1840

I the councils of Europe, and the maintenance of equilibrium
between the Powers will prevent necessities from which
1 France would be the less ready to recoil, inasmuch as her
Government would have done all that honour woula
them to preserve her from them."
We believe the real fat to be that the Chamber
of Peers, which does not overabound in that popu-
larity which is essential to the props: i• exercise of
its high functions, regt.',TlS the present as an excel-
lent opportunity of appearing to place itself in har-
mony with the national sentiments on the Eastern
question. The Peers wish the people to believe
that they are as ready for an European row as the
veriest sans culotte in the most miserable purlieu
in Paris ; while at the same time they delicately
hint that times arc changed since the breaking out
of the first revolution, and that people no longer
fight without something like a decent cause for
fighting. The mischief of this is that the Deputies
will be constrained to be more warlike than the
Peers, and thus fuel may be cast upon the embers

of a fire happily in the progress of rapid extinction
The Peers begin by trimming the lamp of internationa
discord, and the Deputies, who arc expected on al;

occasions to outbid them for popularity, will be likely
in:self-defence to bring a fresh supply of oil. But we
apprehend no serious danger from these wordy
bursts of legislative patriotism.

The Journal des b ebats of Tuesday has a long
and clever article on Lord PALMERSTON'S Note
of the 2d of November, the concluding half of
which is less pacific in its tone than anything which
appeared for the last month in the pages of that
highly influential Paper. As the appearance of
that article caused a decline in the Funds on Tuesday,
we shall quote the latter half of it as well worthy
the serious attention of the Government and people
of this country
The French Government has marked out in the notelof
the Bth of October the limits beyond which it would make
no concession. 'We are satisfied that it maintains that de..
claration. The note of the Bth of October made all the
concessions in Syria which France could make, in order to
have no longer any to make in Syria. What matters, we
ask, in presence of that declaration, for a thesis of public
right more or less supported by the British Chancery as to
the power which the Sultan has of deposing Pachas, that
he is not satisfied with.

We well know that that way, a very simple one assuredly,
! of considering the question does not suit the journals of the
Ist of March. That disarranges their piece. They have
assumed to themselves, for the greatest convenience of
polemics, two abstract prototypes, the one a warlike and em-
boldened Ministry,which defies Europe and sings the " Mar-
seillaise ;" the other, a timid and circumspect Ministry which
wishes for peace at any price, and whose heart does not
possess one drop of French blood. The emboldened and
haughty Ministry is the Ministry of the Ist of March ;
but, unfortunately, it happens that is the emboldened and
haughty Ministry that has recoiled from all Syria, and deli-
vered up that country to the chances of war. What would
happen now if the timid and circumspect Ministry were
firmly and resolutely to maintain the reserve made for
Egypt ? All the characters of the piece would be re-
versed; it would be the brave that would yield, the timid
that would resist 1 In order that the piece may be per-
formed according to the whim of its authors, Egypt must
be abandoned by the Ministry of the 29th of October.
That will cause Syria, which was abandoned by the Ministry
of the list of March, to be forgotten.
It is convenient, assuredly, to suppose that the Consti.
tutional party wishes forpeace at any price; but the Con-
stitutional party is in the habit of replying by facts to the
slanderous prophecies of its adversaries. That is what it
will do again now. No, it will not abandon Egypt; no, it
will not recoil beyond the concessions of the Bth of Oc-
tober ; and why should it be, therefore, in such a hurry to
make peace now ? Who is hurrying it ? It has no
longer to fear the danger which frighted, and reason-
ably so, three weeks ago, the danger of a Revolu-
tionary war. The war now would be carried on by a
regular Government, and not by an insurrection and a
Committee of Public Safety. That is now a great
point gained for the safety of society, for the success of a
war. The great wrong, in short of the Ministry of
the Ist of March is, that it considered, or appeared to have
considered, war as a revolutionary war rather than a poli-
tical one. The reproach has been made to it by one of
the most impartial men of the Chamber—by M. Dubois
(of Loire Inferieure)—in the discussion in the bureaux.
Instead of thinking of war in Syria, it seemed to think of
war in Europe. It is in consequence of that false political
view that it withdrew the fleet from Syria and Egypt, to
the great mortification of Mehemet Ali, in order to shut it
up in the Gulf of Salaminc ; it is with that false political
view that it did not refuse to favour a sort of revolutionary
agitation. Now the danger of revolutionary war is passed,
and war, if it were to take place, would again become a
political one ; therefore there is nothing which hur-
ries us to make peace at home at any price.
Abroad there is nothing either which ought to in-
spire us with hasty imprudence. The greatest evil
is done ; winter is near at band. The first hour, which
for the one that acts is nearly always favourable,
is over ; we are nearly at the second. The difficulties
and embarrassments of the Treaty of the 15th July have
not yet manifested themselves, for Mehemet Ali's resist-
ance was the least of those embarrassments. The greatest
embarrassments of the Treaty are those which must arise
from the new relations established between the Powers
whose signatures:are appended to the Treaty, and those very
embarrassments will be developed by degrees. If we
were in a hurry to make peace at any price, we should lose
the benefit of the compensation which we must derive from
the creation of those difficulties. It must even be said
that the finest chance of success of the Treaty of the 15th
July is, that it be a coup de main, as it were ; that its ef-
fects be rapid and brief; that its weak side may have no
time to be seen. Let us not be in a hurry, therefore ;
both at home and abroad we can wait. For the last three
months, thanks to the bad policy of the Ist of March, all
the embarrassments are for us. If we know how to wait,
the turn for the Allies must come.

The Fr,nch Government and the constitutional party
have one simple thing, but somewhat difficult though, to
do ; it is to cause matters to resume the state in which
they were on the Ist of August, 1840, at the time the
treaty was known, before the Ministry of the Ist of March
spoiled our situation. At that period it was necessary to
assume an isolated though firm attitude, not an irritating
and threatening one. That attitude we may still assume.
At that period it was necessary to arm, and, we like to say
it in honour of the tat of March, it armed ; let us retain
these armaments and be ready to increase them, if
requisite, as it is expressed in the Speech of the
Crown. At that period it was necessary to consult the
Chambers; the Chambers are now assembled. At that pe-
riod, in short, it would have been necessary, perhaps, to
have decided privately, or in a public declaration, what was
to be given up and what was to be retained. Those two
points have been marked out in the note of the Bth of Oc.
tober. We must strenuously abide by them. The honour
and safety of the country depend upon the manner in which
the Government and the Chambers will know how to say

to Europe—the three months which bare just elapsed arc
a dead letter with respect to the bombast of the journals,
and the agitation in public places—they only reckon for
the armaments which are made and which we maintain, and
for the declaration of the Bth of October, which we continue

to put forth as our ultimatum.
Now, as Lord PALMERSTON has no intention
of depriving MEHEMET Am of Egypt, would it
not be better for the Government at once frankly
to state to that of France, that the Four Powers
would yield no assistance to the SULTAN in en-
forcing the dechcance ? Is it just or prudent to
withhold from M. GUIZOT the moral support
which such a declaration would give him in the

Chambers ? We all know the independence of
the Porte to be a mere farce, and that the SULTAN
dare not oppose the will of the Allies. But if
the truth cannot be thus plainly stated in

strict accordance with diplomatic usages, Lord
PALMERSTON has had time enough to obtain from
the Porte, in answer to the humble prayer of the
Great Powers, an assurance that no effort shall be
made to expel the PACHA from the government
of Egypt. As France will be satisfied with the
Allies' disposal of Syria, and as nothing more is
sought by England, in the name of peace and good
neighbourhood why is not France now told that
there is really no difference between us ? Why
not tell France, " You consent to the restoration of
the Tutkish fleet and of Syria to the Porte : we
ask nothing more. If MEHEMET ALI refuse
Syria and the fleet, we shall take both ; but we
shall take nothing else, provided he does not make
war upon us or upon our ally and his Master the
SULTAN." There is nothing like plain dealing
between great and enlightened nations, and when
by a simple statement of honest intentions, a war
may be averted, it is a crime of fearful magnitude
to withhold it under any pretence whatsoever.
The Courrier Francais, in noticing the circulation of
ramours as to the extraordinary expenditure of the late
Ministry, says :7"The ;Ministry of the Ist of March has
expended 200 millions beyond the credits voted by the
Chambers, viz., 150 millions for an armament of 483,000
men, for a materiel which would suffice for 900,000, and
for the purchase of 50,000 horses; to which we must add
50 millions destined to the augmentation of our naval ar.
moments, for the most urgem repairs of our fortresses, to
complete the fortifications of L. yons and commence those
of Paris. The fortifications of Paris alone are included
in these credits to the amount of 18 millions. This is the
whole truth. Everything that may. be asserted beyond
this will not bear discussion, and will meet with the most
positive contradiction."
A letter front Toulon of the 12th of November, says:
" Our Levant fleet is at this moment casting anchor in our.
Roads. The inhabitants have hastened to the surrounding

heights to enjoy the magnicent sight. the eiP6sli"
of profound tore6w was to be bead on every cctintenance;
nobody could reconcile the idea of such powerful arms=
clients with such base 'conduct. The officers and crews bf
all the Ships are confounded at it.", .
, .,
A journal states this morning that the Levant fleet ar-
4ed at ToUloh the 12th.
The project of law for granting a vote of credit of
five millions for the relief of the departments which have
suffered by
ber of Deputies yesterday, by a majority of 240 to 3, and
the late inundations, was adopted by thh Chum-
that for granting one million for repairing the damages
done to the roads, bridges, &c., by a majority of 242 to 2.
—Le Constitutionnel.
The latest news of Admiral Hugon's fleet is of the 3d
of November. It was seen at that date off Cape Passara,
1 to the number of eleven ships of the lino.
It is said that the English fleet will anchor in the Bay
of Marmorezza, which served as a rendezvous of the Bri•
tish fleet forty years ago.—Le Commerce.
BOURSE.---PARIS TUESDAY, Nov. 17.
First Highest Lowest Last
Price Price. Price. Price
Fiencli 5 per Cents .0!1 70 ... tin 70 ... 109 10 ... leg ..1
4 per I' erns P6 .. 96 ... 96 ••• -799 s o'
3 per Cents 7" '5 * 77 95 .. 77 30 ... ~ -1
Latlitte It.mli I,ooof. Sh 105,5. ' ...1055-.
• 1055 ".1655
...
rims.. of France 3.1e0 ...3,20 ... 3160 ... 3220
Velgian Lank
, 5 ~,er Cents...., !)81 984 —971 i —'"
vanish Active
P.assire
Portuguese 3 per Cents
23k ''. •" 2:314
Seapolitan
•,.., 102 60 ... 102 35 ... 102 60
Rotnan
RAILWAY SHARES.
it. Germain
Versailles, ti. B
385 ..• 385 "' 3"
L. 13. ......
)cleans ..
Strasburg to Bale

LLO YD'S SHIPPING-(THIS DAY.)

LONDON, Nov. 19. —.Wind this day at noon, ligl t
breeze at N. E. by N. and hazy weather.
DEAL, Nov. 18.—Wind N.W., moderate. 7 ' P.M.,
E.N. E., strong.—Sailed the outward-bound. ',The Mara-
boo, Whitmore, bound for Jamaica, got in contact with a
vessel last night in the Dowrs.
LIVERPOOL, Nov. 18.—Wind variable and light.—
Arrived, the Warree, from Africa. Off port, the Banff-
shire, from Quebec ; Commerce, Alexandria. Sailed,
the South Stockton, for New South Wales ; British
Queen, Kennedy, Trinidad; Rochester, Woodhouse, New
York; Virginia, Kenney, New Orleans; Lehigh, Plum-
ner, ditto; Star, Sawyer, Azores; Brooklyn, Richardson,
Apalachicola. The Scotland, Black, from Quebec, was
towed into the river last night, full of water, and with loss
of rudder, main and mizen masts, having been on Formby
Spit, and has been beached near the Magazines—the crew
was landed at Formby by the life-boat. The sloop Cam-
bridge, Jones, was totally wrecked near Swoods, County
Dublin 13th inst.—crew drowned.

WnITsTABLE, Nov. 18.—It blew a very heavy gale last
night veering from W. S. W. to N. N. \V., and two ships
arc reported to be dismasted in the Nob Channel.

DOVER, Nov. 18.—TheEliza and Margaret, from Wy.
burg to Gloucester, stranded near Dungeness, has been
condemned—great part of her cargo will be saved.
PORTSMOUTH, Nov. 18.—Wind N.E. to E. S. E.—
Sailed the Laura, Day, Hobart Town; Vestal, Bridle,
Newfoundland. It blew very heavy last night at S. W.
till 10, when it moderated and veered to W., and at day.
light shifted to N. E. 7P. M. E. S. E.
Cowas, Nov. 18 —Arrived Ellison, Budd, Miramichi.
CH LE, ISLE Or WIGHT, NOY.IIB—II blew a dreadful
gale at S. S. W. nearly the whole of last night. 12 casks
of butter have been washed on shore marked " W. Minns
and Co. fine fresh gross butter. Spree Kin a diamond
DC S under No. 20. Monteiga superiur ditto Hambur-
gis, Mantecadelamax A No. 23." It is supposed a vessel
has foundered at sea.

CASSELTOWN, ISLE OF MAN, Nov. 17.—The Unity,
Baxter, of Maryport, was driven from her anchors and
totally lost in Douglas Bay yesterday ; crew saved.
SOUTHAMPTON, Nov. 18.—The Hopewell, Leslie, from
Newcastle to Naples, was towed in here this morning, with
loss of boats, bulwarks, sails, &c.
LYDD, Nov. 18.--A piece. of a top gallant mast, and
part of a quarter gallery with " Friendship" in gilt letters
on it, has been picked up here.
ARERDOVEY, Nov. 17.--The sloop Eleanor and Jane,
of Nevin, is on shore on Booth Sands.
LLANELLI, Nov. IL—The Eberly, Yeo, from Bristol
to Barnstaple, was totally wrecked inside Cefinsidar Sands
yesterday—crew saved.
SWANSEA, Nov. 17.—The Commodore, Stephens, from
Bristol to Cork, struck the ground yesterday during a gale
at S, E., and filled—cargo expected to be saved. The
Providence from Newport to Hayti, struck the ground and
tilled—cargo discharged ; vessel not much damaged.
KILMICHAEL, ARRAN, Nov. 16,-12 or 13 casks of
butter were washed on shore on this island the 14th inst.,
supposed frcitn some vessel that has foendcred, as it blew a
heavy gale at S.E. the day previous.
MARGATE, Nov. 18.—Arrived the Renfrewshire, Burns,
and Nautilus, Tacey, from Quebec. A boat marked
" Greenwood, of Woodville, Robert Woods," has been
picked up in the Roads.
DARTMOUTH, Nov. h.—Arrived the Aries, Brown,
from Miramichi, with eight feet water in her hold.
PLYMOUTH, Nov. 16.—Arrived the Reform (late
Soper), front Newfoundland, with loss of boats, bulwarks,
&e. The Patriot, Sawbridge, hence to Newfoundland,
has put back from long. 36, with loss of bowsprit, decks
swept, and cargo damaged, and must discharge.
FALMOUTH, Nov. 17.—1 t commenced to blow a violent
gale to-day at S.W,, and veered to the west about 6 r.m,,
and blows with great fury. The shipping in port arc ap-
parently riding well.
PENZANCE, Nov. 17.—Arrived Resolution, Davis, from
Quebec, with loss of bulwarks, &e.

GUERNSEY, Nov. 16.—The Deur Freres, from Painipol
to Jersey, in attempting St. Samson's Harbour during a
gale, 13th inst., drove on shore, and filled; cargo saved
in a damaged state. A large boat, with a cargo, from
Trewer to this island, is reported to be lost.
Mit.pono, Nov. 'l6 —Arrived Orion, Almein, Quebec.
Conic, Nov. 16.7—Arrived William, Carman, Dalhou-
sie ; Ambassador, Faith, Pictou.

LITONEY and COMMERCIAL NEWS.

CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK.
LIVERPOOLCOTTON MAhEET, WEDNESDAY,—The de-
mand for Cotton to-day has been only to a moderate ex-
tent. The sales arc 3,500 bags,without alteration in prices.
LIVERPOOL SHARE LIST, Nov. 18.—Edinburgh and
Glasgow, 29; Glasgow and Ayrshire, 281 ; Grand Junc-
tion, 212 ; Quarter-shares, 29} ; Great Western, Half-
shares, 47 ; Liverpool and Manchester, Quarter-shares,
421 ; South Western, 524 ; North Midland, 71f ; Paris
and Rouen, 21.

Accounts have been received at Havre from St. Pe
tersburgh, of the sth Nov., stating that the frost was
intensel there, and at Cronstadt. There were already
great masses of ice floating in the Gulph—that every
thing announced the closing of the navigation before
the ships expected can gain the ports of their destination.
This will injure the exports. A great
quantity stateo
of copper things
ppera
ndtallow remains here without the
weans of being exported.

Accounts fr—om Odessa, in the Gazette de Cologne of
the 23d Oct. state, that the 10th corps of the Russian
Army which was expected there, had not arrived. On
the contrary, it had received orders to halt, :owing to the
turn of affairs in Syria.

BOURSE OF AMSTERDAM, Nov, 16.—The market for
National Funds lias been stationary to-day, and the prices
in general have not varied. The Actions of the Society of
Commerce, owing to the liquidation this day has caused
some business. Some purchases caused the Funds to get
up to 1631 to 1641, but the rate of continuation for the
next liquidation was 4, 1 per cent. to 1 and 11. Ardoin's
Spanish having got up at London, Paris, and Antwerp,
caused a good deal of business in that stock, and the price
rose to 22k, but some sales took place which caused them
to turn heavy. Deferred and Passive was in demand.
After the closing of the Bourse, Ardoin's was done t,t1121,
Coupons 16i
The Bank of Belgium discounted in 1839 twenty-six
millions ; in this year the Bank discounted from three to
four millions per month, and it had on the first of the
month 900 bills to receive, all of which had been duly
honoured.

CHANCERY COURT-(THIS DAY.)

iiEDoustsGrox V. GRANT.

Thy L6kri CiiANciLiou gave judgment itt this case,
Which was argued before the long vacation. It was an ap-
peal from a decision of the Master of the Rolls, which his
Lordship reversed. The facts of the case were altogether
uninteresting the single question being whether the Mast, r,
to whose report exceptions had been taken, had in taking
the accounts, properly computed interest.

113130TSON V. 111BOTSON.

Ills LORDSHIP aka gave judgment in this case, which was
argued some months ago, which came before him upon en
appeal from a decision of the Vice-Chancellor.—The ar-
peal was dismissed with costs.

BOLLS' COURT.-(THIS DAY )

The Court took motions.
HOPE V. 110 FE-A RICH UNCLE.

The plaintiff in this case was John Hope, and the defen-
dants Henry Thomas Hope (the Member for Gloucester),
Alexander Beresford Hope, and Abraham Hope. The
three defendants were the executors of Philip Hope, their
uncle, who by his will gave the residue of his estate
equally among his three nephews. He afterwards made
a codicil, by which he gave specific and pecuniary
legacies to an enormous amount, and by other testamentary
papers disposed of considerable property in Holland. At
his death his will was proved by his executors,:when a ques-
tion of some nicety arose. It appeared that in his life-
time he was possessed of a casket of jewels of the value
of upwards of 100,000/., one diamond alone being worth
40,0001. ; and it was alleged that he bad in his lifet'me
made and executed a deed of gift in favour of his younger
nephew Alexander Beresford Hope, of this casket
with its contents, the instrument remaining in his
possession at the time of his death. A question, there-
fore, arose, whether the gift took effect, or whether the
jewels did not remain the property of the testator up to
(he time of his death, and passed under his will:
Mr. PEMBERTON moved for a reference to the Master,
to take an account of the debts and legacies, to inquire
whether any part of the testator's personal estates now
remained outstanding, and to state the particulars thereof,
and to ascertain and state the clear residue of the estate.
The assets of the testator were immense, and not tho
least question was raised os to their sufficiency to pay all
the debts and legacies ; but these inquiries were necessary
previous to the hearing of the cause.
Counsel appeared for other parties, and consented to
an order with the terms asked by the notice of motion,
which was accordingly made, There was nothing hostile
in the suit.

TUBB V. BIGGS.

The praintiff in this case was a cowkccper, carrying on
business in the New-road, and the defendant a cattle-
dealer in Leicestershire. The parties had been con-
nected in business since 1834, and the course of dealing
between them appeared to be as follows :—The plaintin
was in the habit of purchasing cattle from the defendant,
and no payment was ever made on account of each
purchase; but an account current was kept be-
tween the parties, and bills of exchange were from
time to time accepted by the plaintiff on account
of the balances which from time to time were represented
by the defendant to be due. In the course of the.dealings
that took place between them, from 1834 to 1840, certain
bills became dishonoured, and in the year 1835 a mortgage
was executed by the plaintiff to the defendant of leasehold
property belonging to him, and in which he carried on
his business, to secure the plaintiff the sum of 500/. In 1836
another mortgage was executed by him to the defendant to
secure a further sum of 10,00/. The plaintiff stated that be
was ignorant of accounts, and that he trusted entirely to
the defendant; and that the amount of the bills of ex-
change was frequently paid into the hands of the defend-
ant's bankers without the bills being given up. Biggs
having brought au action to recover the amount of what he
alleged to be balances duo to him upon the accounts,
Tubb filed a bill in equity, stating that the rights
between them could not be properly ascertained at
law, and praying for the common injunction to stay pro-
ceedings, and to have an account taken of the dealings and
transactions between them.--The injunction was granted.
Mr. Kiodersley (with whom was Mr. Elmslev) now
moved to dissolve the injunction, and Mr. Pemberton, with
Mr. Russell, showed cause against it.
The case was not concluded when we went to press.

BAIL COURT.-(THIS DAY.)

(Before Mr. Justice PATTESON.)
THE QUEEN V. TILE CORPORATION OF NEWCASTLE--
MANDAMUS.

Sir WILLIAM FOLLETT applied for a rule calling upon
the Corporation of Newcastle-upon-Tyne to show cause
why a mandamus should not issue commanding them to
empanel a Jury at the next Court of Quarter Sessions,
to assess the damages due from them to Messrs. Double-
day and Co., as compensation for damages done by the
Corporation to the quay of Messrs. Doubleday by build-
ing a quay in the bed of the river outside the quay of
Messrs. Doubleday, which had sustained damage thereby.
Mr. Justice PATTESON granted a rule nisi.
INDICTMENT. .

James Oakley was brought up to plead to an indictment
charging him with throwing great quantities of mud and
rubbish into th© Thames.

The defendant pleaded guilty, and was removed in
custody.

THE QUERN V. THE INHABITANTS OF WATFORD.

Mr. V. WILLIANIS moved for a rule to show cause why the
certiorari issued to remove the above case into the Court
of Queen's Bench should not be quashed, on the ground
of the insufficiency of the notice. The Learned Counsel
went into a lengthened argument, and quoted several cases
in support of his application.
Mr. Justice PATTLEON.—YOU may take a rule nisi.