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London, England, 1841-07-15 00:00:00

DUTull AND GERMAN MAIL.

BATAVIA, MARCH 18.—Accounts from Padang, of the
26th of February, say that on the 24th a rising had
taken place, which appeared to be of a serious nature.
The Regent of Balips was at the head of it. Fort
Goeque Maetentang, which had a full garrison, Fort
Koch, and the camp of Padan*-Riloe, were attacked at
the same time. Colonel Michael, Governor of the west
coast of Sumatra, was preparing to set out with the
troops in Padang for the upper country. The ship Eagle
has brought the intelligence that Colonel Michiel had
succeeded in quelling the insurrection in a few days.
A later account from Colonel Michiel brings the im-
portant news that Kalic Roaja, formerly Governor of
Balips, has been taken prisoner and brought to Padang,
and the state of things in the ulper part of Padang was
so favourable that there was every reason to hope that
order will shortly be restored.
ALEXANDRIA, JUNE 9.—Saib Mulib Effendi is to re-
turn in a few days on board the Nile steamer, to Con-
stantinople, and to take five millions of piastres, as part
of the tribute. It is affirmed that the Pacha has
offered an annual tribute of two millions of dollars,
if he is left at liberty with respect to his internal
administration, otherwise he will pay only one million.
The day before yesterday .About four hundred Egyp-
tians returned from Constapiinopl4who either deserted
or were taken prisottors Sp-44 They were imme-
diately restored, and,.lthough, the., Sultan's order was
that they should return to; their homes, it is probable
'that they will sooner or later incorporated in the army.
.Many more are to follow.--*lllgenieine Zeitung, June 9.
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THE ELECTIONS.
ENGLISH AND WELCH COUNTIES.

ANTI-MONOPOLISTS.

MONOPOLISTS.

NORFOLK (EAST).—CLOSE OF THE POLL.
. Folkes, Esq.
11. Burroughes, Esq. 3,440
LEICESTER (SOUTH).—CLOSE OF THE POLL.
- Cheney, Esq.*
- Gisborne, Esq 1,200 C. W. Packe, Esq... 2,624

IRELAND.
DUBLIN COUNTY.-SECOND DAY.

Lord Brabazon ... 650 .1. Hamilton, Esq.... 750
G. H. Evans, E5q..... 647 Capt. Taylor 742

SCOTLAND,
STIRLING COUNTY.—CLosE or THE POLL.
Sir M. Bruce*

ELECTIONS TO COME.
LIST OF CANDIDATES, NOMINATIONS, AND
DAYS OF POLLING.
SUFFOLK (WEST). —Polling, July 15 and 16. Candi-
dates—Lieut.-Col. R. Rushbroolce, H. S. Waddington.
WEXFORD (County).—Polling day, 16th July. Candi-
dates—H. K. G. Morgan, Esq., Captain V. F. Hatton, Esq.
J. Devercux, and E. Devereux.
WEXFORD.—Sir T. Esmonde, James Bourne, Esq.
Election day July 16.

GREAT NORTH OF ENGLAND RAILWAY.
Traffic Returns for the Week ending July 12, 1841 :
Passengers
Merchandise 909 6 10

Darlington, July 14.

£1,422 17 6

THE LATE FIRE AND LOSS OF LIFE IN
THE NEW ROAD. —On Tuesday forenoon the inquiry into the
circumstances attending the death of Thomas Walker, a chair-
maker, aged 39, who was burnt in the fire at Mr. Rielly's re-
cumbent chair and sofa manufactory, 18, Quickset-row, New-
road, on the 2d inst., was resumed before Mr. Wakley, M.P.,
at the Goat and Compasses, New-road. The object of the
adjournment was to find out, if possible, the origin of the
fire. Mary Ann Davey said that she lodged in the first
front room of the house previous to its being burnt, with
her husband and five children. About eleven o'clock
she was standing on the stairs, talking to Miss Rielly,
and was about leaving her, when she observed
a great quantity of smoke coming towards them from the
bottom of the house, and a strong smell of fire. She int-
med ately ran into the room, and informed her husband, who
was in bed, of the circumstance. He got up, and she accom-
panied him to the bottom of the house, when, on opening
the door of the "hold" (a place used as a receptacle for
pieces of wood, shavings, &c. ) they found it in flames. They
ran up stairs as fast as possible, made an alarm, and then
made their escape, together with their children, over the
lead flat. She supposed the deceased was in bed, for she
heard him go up stairs, and also heard him wish the people
in the room adjoining him " Good night." Before they ef.
fected their escape she sent her eldest son up to wake him, but
he could not do so as the door was fast on the inside. Mr.
Rielly said he had not been able to ascertain how the de-
ceased got in doors on the night the fire broke out. The
jury, on the suggestion of the Coroner, returned a verdict
—" That the deceased was found dead, having Leen burnt
in the tire at 18, Quickset-row, New-road, but how that fire
originated there was no evidence to show."
BENTLEY'S MISCELLANY FOR JULY.—The
principal feature in this excellent periodical for July, an earlier
notice of which the press of election news prevented, is the
commencement of a new Romance of Real Life from the per.
of Charles Whitehead, author of several extremely popular tales
and sketches. It is entitled " Richard Savage," and, as we
glean from a brief introduction, will contain an autobiography
of the celebrated, but unfortunate poet, whose life, by Dr.
Johnson, must be familiar with the majority of our readers.
The opening chapters are full of excellent promise. The in-
terest is at once awakened for the youthful hero, and the author's
style, which is plain, fresh, and vigorous, reminds us of that of
the elder novelists, whose works still are consdered models
in that elasss of composition. We hail the commencement
of this tale with unaffected pleasure, conscious that it will ex-
tend the reputation of the Miscellany. '1 be illustrations by
Leach are in the best style of this eminent artist. Ingoldsby
is even unusually rich this month. llis tale of " The Ingoldsby
Penance," is full of quaint humour, and deals many a quiet hit
at the penances traded in by Mother Church. In this style of
composition Ingoldsby, though surrounded by imitators, is with-
out a competitor. " The Body Coachman," by Albany
Poyntz, is an amusing sketch, exhibiting much play of fancy
and knowledge of life. There are no less than fourteen en-
graved illustrations embellishing this month's Miscellany, which
argues a determination on the part of the spirited proprietor, to
." spare no expense in making his Magazine attractive.—Dublin
Evening Packet.
GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY.—The depres-
sion in the Great Western Railway shares is owing to a report
at the Stock Exchange that the directors are about calling on
the proprietors for a loan of 1,000,0004, more money to com-
plete the line.

THE RAJA. OF SATTARA.

INDIA HOUSE.

Yesterday a Special General COurt of the Proprietors
of India Stock was held at their House in Leadenhall-
street, for the purpose of considering the case of the ex-
Raja of Sattara.

George Lyall, Esq., M.P., the Chairman, accompa-
nied by most of the Directors, entered the Court at
twelve o'clock, when the minutes of the last Court were
read and confirmed.

The CHAIRMAN having intimated the special nature
of the business, called upon Mr. Lewis, but
Mr. POYNDER begged to put a question to the Chair-
man before the business was proceeded with.—(Cries of
" No, no.") He wished to know whether the Directors
had received any answer to the despatch of the 3d March.
The CHAIRMAN said that was a Special Court, and it
was irregular to discuss any other matter.
Mr. POYNDER said a simple answer to his simple
question would not have occupied so much time. He was
content, however, as he understood that it would be
competent for him to renew the question after the busi-
ness of the day had been gone through.
Mr. LEWIS then rose to move " That, it appears from
the papers laid before the Court of Proprietors in the
case of the Raja of Sattara, that his Highness was ac-
cused of treasonable-designs against the British Govern-
ment, upon ex pare, anonymous, and contradictory
statements, without his having an opportunity of de-
fending himself : That, he was called upon to sign a do-
cument admitting his guilt, as the condition of being
continued on his Throne : That, on his refusing to ac-
cede to this extraordinary and degrading proposal—
while asserting his innocence, and requesting to be in-
formed of the charges against him, and the names of his
accusers—he was suddenly, at midnight, removed from
his Palace by a military force--deprived of his property
—and sent a prisoner to Benarcs : That, such a course
of proceeding must have the effect of destroying the
confidence of the Native Princes of India, in the justice
and honour of the British Government ; and, therefore,
this Court recommends to the Court of Directors, that a
full and fair investigation of the accusations against the
Raja be forthwith instituted, by an impartial Committee
to be appointed for that purpose ;
and, in the event of
the accusations not being substantiated, that the Raja
be restored to that Throne which, according to the re•
corded opinion of the Court of Directors, he had for so
many years adorned, by a course of conduct calculated
to promote the prosperity of Ms dominions, and the happi-
ness of his people.' " Before proceeding to argue the case
he had to lay before the Court, he begged to ask the
Chairman whether the Court of Directors had received
anrcommunication on the subject from the Board of Con-
trol, and, if so, would it be read to the Court.
The CHAIRMAN—No, we have received no communi-
cation.
Mr. LEWIS, in bringing the question relating to the
treatment of the Raja of Sattara before the Court, said
he was anxious to assure them that he did not wish to
impute motives to any one, nor in any manner to assail
private character ; he considered the question as one of
public policy upon a measure which vitally concerned
the character of the Indian Government. Many indivi-
duals had been connected with the transaction, and if
their conduct in it was unjust, harsh, or at variance with
Christian policy, it was then not only the privilege of the
Proprietors, but it was their bounden duty, to characte-
rise such conduct in such a manner as it seemed to them
to deserve; it was their duty to scrutinize the conduct of
such individuals; to make it the subject of remark, and,
if necessary, to make it the subject of animadver-
sion. On a former day, he had stated his inten-
tion of arraigning the Government of India be-
fore public opinion, for their harsh and oppressive
treatment of the ex-Raja of Satara. They had brought
three distinct charges against the Raja—first, that the
Raja had been guilty of an attempt to seduce some Sepoys
from their allegiance to the English •, second, that he
had carried on a treasonable correspondence with the ex-
Raja of Nagpore ; and thirdly, that he had carried on
a treasonable correspondence with the Portuguese Go-
vernor of Goa. Now, with reference to the first
charge, it appeared to him the evidence of the Sepoys was
not at all conclusive; it was not supported, it did not ap-
pear that there was anything in it which connected the
Raja with it even if it had ever been done. The Brah-
min, who appeared to have been the chief mover in the
affair, admitted in his cross-examination that the whole
affair was a conspiracy which had been entirely concocted
by himself for the purpose of revenging himself upon the
Raja. It was admitted, indeed it was proved in the
plainest manner, that there existed in the minds of the
Sepoys much ill-feeling towards the Raja, because some
time previously he had given orders for the removal and
consequent destruction of their huts. In the evidence of
Captain Stock, he expressly said that the Sepoys
expressed great satisfaction at the death of some
of the Raja's horses and cattle on that -round, and from
the same evidence it appeared that the Brahmin held out
some threats towards the Raja, and said he would soon
see the result of his conduct. The whole order of the
Brahmins entertained towards the Raja the most intense
hatred—that was shown by the evidence of a Proprietor,
whom he was happy to see on the other side of the
Bar.—(Hear, hear.) General Robertson on a former oc-
casion said :—" It may help the Court to come to a de-
cision on the question now before it, to state that I can
assert, of my own knowledge, that the Raja had many
reckless and influential enemies ; and particularly that
he had incurred the enmity of the Brahmins ; and, as it
was on religious grounds that their enmity was founded,
their hostility partook of all that deadly hatred which is
so often mixed up in polemical disputes. I may add
alto, that there are no persons so unscrupulous as Brah-
mins when they have a Brahminical object to carry.
- Every thing which is likely—to-Aoromete their views,
however unprincipled, is then resorted to. for they think
that, in such a cause, the end hallows the means. So
strong were the impressions which I entertained in re-
gard to the enmity of the Brahmins towards his High-
ness; that in my last Report to the Government, on
leaving Sattara, I thought it proper pointedly to advert
to the subject, and the following is what I then said :
On my taking leave of his Highness at Maholee, he
expressed his gratitude and attachment to the British
power in terms of sincerity that cannot be questioned ;
and after I had bidden him adieu, he recalled me to re-
peat them and to impress them more strongly on my
memory, as well to request that I would not only assure
the Right Honourable the Governor in Council of his
feelings, but also state them to the Honourable Mr.
Elphinstone in England • and his last words were—' I
have no friend but the 'English Government, and my
sole reliance is on it. I have many enemies--this you
know—but no friends but the English.' I believe,
among his many !enemies, his Highness considers the
Brahmin tribe as the most numerous and most virulent
and influential. Setting aside the recollection of the dis-
cussions that have taken place on points of religion, I
may state that, upon political grounds, there exists much
jealousy and ill-will on the part of that race to his High-
ness, merely because his restoration to the possession of
that small share of power and importance which he now
enjoys, results from the political overthrow of the Brah-
mM.power. Many of that tribe still retain considerable
territories and revenues in his Highness's vicinity, and
though most of them had, from time to time, feuds with
the late Paishwa, still, as they owed all their original
importance to the Paishwas subsequent to the usurpations
of the Raja's ancestors, it is certain that they have viewed
with regret what has been done for him ; not only be-
cause they think his Highness must look upon them with
disfavour, as deriving their wealth from the misfortunes
of his ancestors, but also as belonging to that class
through whose instrumentality these misfortunes were
experienced ; and that his Highness entertains these
feelings, and also that they influence him in rendering
him as neutral as possible in the differences between the
Purvoes and the Brahmins, seems very probable. How-
ever this may be, his Highness has too much good sense
to make any display of his feelings, in the little inter-
course which he has with his Brahmin neighbours,' and
in this he has an advantage over them, for they do not
equally observe tho courtesy that is due to him on such
occasions ; and, as members of the Brahmbi caste, they,
and more especially Chintiman Row, have been most
active in exciting a spirit of opposition in their tribe to
his Highness, and in aiding and supporting those who
carry it on. Manifestoes describing him as an enemy to
the Hindoo faith have emanated from them, and been
dispersed all over the Deccan and Hindoostan, to which
his Highness has never condescended to offer any reply.'"
In fact, the Raja had many enemies and no friend, ex-
cept the English, and the Court would at once see the
motives and springs of the conspiracy against him. They
saw the ill feeling which existed in the breasts of the
Sepoys on the one hand, while, on the other, they
had the confession of the Brahmin, the chief, nay, the
sole author of the conspiracy. A Commission of In-
quiry was instituted. They prosecuted their inquiries,
and they made their Report, in which they stated it as
their opinion that the Raja was guilty of the charges pre-
ferred against him ; but how they arrived at that opinion
was to him most marvellous. He could not conceive
how they came to such a conclusion. However, it was
some consolation, 'under these circumstances, to find that
one of the Commissioners had the manliness to say,
" That no act of my life I regret so much as having
signed the Commission without appending my protest"
It was some consolation to find Mr. Shakespeare, a Com-
missioner, saying---:
" I cannot agree with the Bombay Government, that
it is expedient to adopt a middle course in this case.
" If the Raja is guilty, he is guilty of an offence with
which there should be no compromise.' The Bombay
Government convict the Raja of attempting to corrupt
the fidelity of our troops, and of plotting the subver-
sion of our rule (to say nothing of an item in the plot,
according to the Brahmin's account, that the European
troops were to be got rid of by bribing the bakers to
poison their bread), and yet propose to leave him in the
possession of power to renew these attempts, whenever
his plans may be better organized than they were on
the late occasion.
" For my part, I am not satisfied with the evidence
against the Raja, and would therefore acquit him alto-
gether, instead of adopting the 'half-measure which, in
my humble judgment, even supposing him to be guilty,
is neither reconcilable with public justice nor with sound
policy: It is, no doubt, difficult to divest the affair of all
susp ; icion but when we reflect on the utter want of
basis (as far as we yet know) on which the plot could
have been founded, the improbable manner in which the
Brahmin (Untajee) commenced his seduction of the
Soobadars, the total unworthiness of his evidence, the
discrepancies between the stories first told by the Sooba-
clays and their subsequent depositions before the Com-
missioners, and the absurd terms in which the Raja is
said to have announced to the Soobadars the signs of
coming events, I confess I look in vain for any thing
proof, for my mind to
There was some consolation also in the fact that the
rest
tgiubple no o.f, solid, in the shape of
grounds and reasons stated by the Commissioners as
those upon which they had made up their minds as to
the guilt of the Raja were stated in their report- Hon.
Proprietors would read. them, and then they would won-
der at the conclusion to which they had come. That
Report, and the proceedings of the Conunissiou, were

transmitted to the Governor-General, and his opinion
upon them elicited—it was one of unqualified disapproba-
tion. Let us look at what his Lordships aid. In his let-
ter of the. 2d October, 1837, he says—
"l. Sir,—l am desired by the Right Honourable the
Governor-General of India in Council to acknowledge
the receipt of your several letters, dated the 30th
August, and Ist and 4th ultimo, together will their
respective enclosures, relative to intrigues at Sattara.
"2. Copies of the letters to your address, datedkle 7th,
21st, and 31st of July, referred to in the ActiagXesi-
dent's letter of the 12th ultimo, have not been fuypished
to the Governor-General in Council ; but, judgiTig from
the evidence which accompanied your comminfl
in cation-
now acknowledged, his Lordship Council has ;no hesi-
tation in stating that his worst apprehensions,. as ex-
pressed in the concluding paragraph of my letter to your
address, dated the 7th August, as to the ' danger of be-
coming involved in an indefinite and inconclusive in-
quiry,' have every appearance of being fully realized.
"3. The Governor-General is Council had mainly re-
lied on the result of the investigation which might be
instituted, consequent on the alleged petition of
the D,ewan's mother, for a solution of any doubts which
might be entertained as to the aceurary of the conclu-
sions formed by the Commission on the occasion of the
previous inquiry, and for something more of intelligible
precision in its results. By the Report of the Commis-
sion, the Raja of Sattara was left subject to the imputa-
tion of every shade of guilt, from that of lending him-
self to the machinations of the evil-disposed, under the
influence of discontent and partial insanity, and irritated
by supposed ill-usage, up to that of an extensive treason,
in a great degree matured, and having for its object the
entire overthrow of the British power in India. Much
of the evidence by which even this imperfect result
was obtained was uncertain and unsatisfactory ; and
whilst his Lordship in Council was willing, to place
confidence in the judgment of the Commission, he
felt that the case was incomplete, and that to justify the
Government in any strong and final measure further
information was absolutely necessary. But from all the
papers which have since come before him, he has seen in-
creased reason to doubt whether any certain grounds
of action can possibly be obtained amidst the intrigues,
the personal animosities, and the exaggerated rumours
of all descriptions, by which the investigation into the
petty and obscure details of the supposed treasonable
proceedings of the Raja has been surrounded and em-
barrassed.

" 4. The evidence relative to the alleged intercourse of
the Raja of Sattara with the ex-Raja of Nagpore, as
detailed in the documents which accompanied your
letter of the Ist ult., is, in the opinion of his Lordship in
Council, in the highest degree suspicious. The alleged
communication between Yellojee Bappoo and the ex-
Raja of Nagpore is admitted to have originated in some
domestic concern. The evidence of that individual and
his servant are full of discrepancies ; and it was only
after repeated cross-examinations that iey were induced
to implicate the Raja of Sattara as having any know-
ledge of the communications. It is remarkable that
Yellojee is represented as having been the person
through whose means the intercourse between the Raja
of Sattara and the ex-Raja of Nagpore was first set on
foot ; and yet the two witnesses, Abba Mareek and his
servant Wittoo, deposed that the latter was sent to
Joudpore to ask whether Yellojee Bappoo sent people
there.

" 5. The Governor-General in Council sees little or
nothing in the evidence recorded in the documents
which accompanied your letter of the 4th ult. to incul-
pate the Raja. There is no direct evidence against his
Highness of any kind, as regards the supposed intrigue
with the Hubshee, save that the Hubshee's Vakeel, who
was a relative of Bulwunt Row Chitnavees, was intro-
duced to his Highness ; that the Raja read a letter and
afterwards threw it into the fire, and that he received a
present of cocoa-nuts from Bulwunt Row Chetnavees.
Against the last-named individual no criminality is esta-
blished. There is nothing of a treasonable nature in
the paper found concealed in the doll, and if there was,
evidence has been given to prove that he (the Chitna-
vees) was not the author of its contents. His Lordship
in Council, of course, attaches no weight to the unsup-
ported rumours of intrigues in all directions, alluded to
by the witnesses whose depositions accompanied your
letter of the 4th ult. His Lordship in Council observes,
that the expressions contained in the sixth paragraph of
your letter to the Acting Resident, that the witness
Wittul Row Parisnees saw himself poshak (clothes),
and a sword sent to the Raja from the Hubshee,' would
appear to imply more than was actually stated by the
witness, as his Lordship in Council cannot discover that
Wittul Row asserted he saw the things in question ac-
tually sent to the Raja.
" 6. As for the alleged combination's with the Portu-
guese, and with Arabia, alluded to in the documents
which accompanied your letter of the 31st ultimo, the
Governor-General in Council could riot but regard such
plots (even had the accounts which had been furnished
of them seemed less improbable than they do), to be too
extravagant to be entertained for a moment by any person
in his senses ; while it appears from the report of the
Commission tat the Raja of Sattara is by no means
deficient in understanding.
" 7. The Acting Residnt, in the ninth paragraph of
his letter to your address dated the 12th ultimo, observes,
the time necessary to bring these proceedings to a close
will necessarily be prolonged. And with reference to
this declaration, to the length of time which has already
elapsed since this investigation commenced, and to the
excitement and alarm which inquiries so extended and
protracted must necessarily occasion, I am desired to
repeat the suggestion contained in the concluding para-
graph of my letter, dated the 7th August, and yet more
strongly to urge the inconvenience and uncertainty of
these proceedings, and the absolute necessity of bring-
ing.them to an eatly termination. In the hopeleS'sness
that all further evidence will be otherwise than incon-
clusive, and looking to the utmost degree of criminality,
which in any view of the testimony before the Commis-
sion may be regarded as clearly and absolutely esta-
blished, looking, too, to the interval which has since
elapsed in inquiries leading to no further definite and
important disclosures, his Lordship in Council would
gladly find that the Bight Hon. the Governor in Coun-
cil is disposed to concur with him in opinion, and would
close the proceedings ; apprising the Baja that, although
several suspicious circumstances regardinr, his Highness
have been elicited during the progress of this inquiry,
yet the British Government is unwilling, without the
clearest proof of guilt, to condemn any of its allies, especi-
ally one who has been so pre-eminently the object of its
favour and generosity ; that further investigation is
deemed inexpedient with reference to the general incon-
venience it creates ; and that the Right Hon. the Go-
vernor in Council is therefore pleased to close the in-
quiry, with the expression of his hope that the Raja will
so conduct himself for the future as to avoid the predica-
ment (no less painful to the British Government than to
his Highness) in which he has recently been placed.
" 8. As regards the Dewan, who is now understood to
be in confinement at Ahmednuggur, his Lordship in
Council observes, that if the suggestion contained in this
letter should be adopted, the liberation of the individual
in question will probably follow the cessation of further
inquiry into the conduct of the Raja.
" I have the honour, &c..
(Signed) " W. H. MACNAUGHTEN,
"Secretary to the Government of India.
"Fort William, October 2, 1837."
Mr. Shakespear, one of the Commisson, disagreed
with the Commissioners, and protested against their de-
cision. In addition to that the Court of Directors were
in favour of the Raja. He had a right to say so, for a
despatch was sent out by them stigmatizing the whole of
the proceedings. Therefore, in the Raja's favour, there
was the Governor-General, one of the Commissioners,
who inquired into the whole affair, and the Court of
Directors, all of them characterizing the proceedings
against him as being seriously detrimental to the cha-
racter of the Indian Government. Perhaps some of
the Indian Proprietors who entertained different views
to what he did might follow him, and say that the Brah-
min had made a confession implicating the Raja. He
(Mr. L.) admitted that he did make what was called a
confession - but when the Court was put in possession of
the facts relating to that confession—of the manner in
which that confession had been made, they would scout
it. It appeared that, in March 1837, a petition from
Sattara was presented to the Bombay Government.
Now that petition did not appear on the face of the pro-
ceedings at all. It was kept back, why he did
not know—he had not been able to see it. That petition
was sent to Sattara by the Bombay Government, with
instructions directing that a full inquiry might take
place. Now, what was the course pursued by the Com-
missioners? The petition was supposed to be from the
mother of the Dewan, Govind Row. Accordingly he was
taken and placed in still closer confinement, in order to
induce her to communicate some intelligence to the Pre-
sident. The mother of the Dewan had, for a long time,
been suffering great distress upon his account. His closer
confinement soon reached his mother's ears, and she
communicated with the Commissioners, soliciting an in-
terview. It was granted, and it took place at midnight;
and a pretended confession was obtained. But could they
put faith in any evidence obtained under such circum-
stances? Could they rely upon evidence obtained by
working on the agonized feelings of a parent, in the hope
of obtaining the release of her son? He would fear-
lessly put it to the Court, whether they could
place any credit on such evidence, even if it
did inculpate the Raja, which he said it did
not. As well might they give credence to evi-
devce obtained from a poor wretch suffering upon the
wheel.—(Hear, hear.) He trusted, then, they would
hear nothing that day Of such a confession. He now
came to the second charge made against the Raja,—that
he had been guilty of carrying on a treasonable correspon-
dence with the ex-Raja of Nagpoor. Now, who was this
with whom he was charged with corresponding ! Was
he in power, and likely to be able to assist in driving the
English from India ? No,—he was, deposed by the
English,—he was a fugitive, residing at the Court of
and subsisting on his benevolence. This was
the man with whom it was alleged the Raja was corres-
ponding treasonably with. Now, what were the facts ?
It appeared that, between 1832 and 1836, there
had been a correspondence between two persons in
the respective countries, but it was entirely of a private
nature, and altogether unconnected with politics. The
charge made against him was, that he wrote to the ex-
Raja, stating that he had still two 'rear:: and a half to
collect troops to drive out the English from India ;
the Russians were coming by Constantinople, and if he
had any interest with the Turks he was to use it, and,
at the same time, he was to be at liberty to mention
his (the Raja's) name. It was too ridiculous for any
one to put credence in, and if true, could only be ac•
counted for by supposing the Raja to be insane. The
Commissioners, however, proved that such was not the
case, for they. gave him great credit for his ability and
promptitude in business. Even the Governor-General
appeared to acquit the Raja upon the second charge.
The third charge made against him was, that he had
been guilty of carrying on a treasonable correspondence
with the Portuguese Governor of Goii. Now, it was to
be borne in mind that Portugal was in close alliance
with England during the whole of the time the cone-

• spondence was alleged to' have been carried on. What
were the facts of the case ? It was said that this trea-
sonable correspondence had been continued for twelve
years. A Brahmin was introduced to the Raja ; he had
been strongly recommended to him, but there was not the
slightest evidence to show that he had ever employed him.
It was obvious that the whole case turned upon those
papers. But was the agency of Nago Deoraoyroved?
Was he proved to be the servant of the Raja of Sattara?
Why it was shown in evidence that the only interviews
he had had with the Raja during twelve years were
three ; and it was also distinctly shown that Nago
Deorao was acting as the agent of another party. But
suppose he was the agent of the Raja of Sattara, it must
be shown that the Raja was acquainted with the purport
of these letters, and that been done. It was
stated that these were the original letters i had
passed between the Raja of Sattara and Don anoel,
the Governor of Goa., and they were found in the pos-
session of Nago Deorao. But was it possible that the
Raja would permit the individual to write whatever let-
ters he liked to the Governor of Goa ? Again, let
them consider the nature of these letters. They were
to the effect that the Governor of Goa should induce the
Queen of Portugal to send 30,000 men to drive the
English out, and take possession of Hindostan, and then
1 that the empire should be divided between the
Raja of Sattara and the Portuguese Government.
--(Hear, hear, hear.) The very circumstance of
the Portuguese Government being in alliance with the
British Government,. would lead any man of common
sense to treat that proposition as absurd.—(Hear, hear.)
These were the charges which it was supposed the Raja
was guilty of, and these were the wild, visionary, and
absurd circumstances which they now brought forward
and supported. It was his intention to conclude with a
motion that the Court of Directors would consent to a full
and fair investigation of all the circumstances, and allow
the Raja an opportunity of defending himself from the
charges that had been brought against him. So far as
he had already gone, he thought he had stated enough to
show that the evidence did not support the charges. But
the fact was, it was unnecessary for him to go so far, for
he was not required to go into any case until be was called
upon for his defence. He contended that the Raja had
not been heard—(Hear, hear)—he contended that he had
been condemned without a hearing—(Hear, hear)—and
would any Proprietor or Director deny that fact ?
(Cheers.) With regard to the treasonable correspon-
dence which the Raja was alleged to have carried on
with the ex-Raja of Nagpore and the Governor of Goa,
nobody would deny that the Raja scarcely knew of them,
much less could be called upon to defend himself from them.
He knew nothing either of his accusers or of the evi-
dence that had ben given.—(Hear, hear.) It might be
said that, with regard to the first charge, he had an op-
portunity of defending himself ; but the Court would not
deny that he had no fair opportunity of doing so ; and
he would call the attention of the Proprietors to that
part of the Report of the Commissioners. General Lod-
wick, with the feeling of justice by which he had distin-
guished himself during the whole of those proceedings,
proposed at the commencement that, as the inquiry was
one of vital importance to his Highness the Raja of Sat-
tarah, affecting his station as a Prince of the Empire,
and his character as an ally of the British Government,
that he should have the charges fully explained to him, and
that he should be allowed an English advocate to conduct
his defence. That proposal was rejected, and finally
abandoned, although it was the course which justice ob-
viously and necessarily pointed ont. The Commissioners
examined witnesses for thirteen or fourteen days, and it
was then considered necessary that the Raja should have
some information of what was going on ; and General
Lodwick proposed that they should wait upon the Raja
at his palace to communicate the charges, and give him
an opportunity of answering them. But this would not
suit the Commissioners. He must be dragged as a
criminal before them, and in his usual spirit of submis-
sion to their orders, he went at once.—(Hear, hear.) It
is a fact, that throughout the whole affair the Raja had
evinced the utmost readiness to comply with their wishes;
and whatever witnesses were required were at once pro-
duced. The Raja appeared at once before the Commis-
sioners, and Mr. Willoughby read the evidence of the
Soobadars. Mr.Willougby said if the Raja had been led
into error, his best course would be to acknowledge it,
and throw himself upon the mercy of the British Gov-
ernment. It was clear from this that •the minds of the
Commissioners were made up as to the guilt of the
Raja.—(Hear, bear.) The Raja denied the charges in
tote, and asserted his perfect innocence. He was asked
if he would like to have a copy of the evidence ' • but
whether it was given to him or not did not appear. Now
he would ask, was that a fair trial ? It was one of the
fundamental, and one of the noblest maxims of their
law, that no man should be condemned unheard, and he
wished to know why, in the case of the Raja, it had
been infringed on ? In England the protection was ex-
tended to the meanest individual. He might be guilty
of innumerable offences, but he could not be permitted
to stand forward on his trial without an opportunity of
defending himself. In proportion to the magnitude of
the crime and the greatness of the punishment, in the
same proportion did the law throw round him every pro-
tection and security that was consistent with justice.
Thus, in the case of treason, was an individual hurried
to his defence like the Raja ? No, he was allowed so
many days before the trial, a copy of the depositions, a
list of the witnesses, and a copy of the indictment, in
order that he might know the charge. It would be in
the recollection of the Court that a remarkable instance
occurred in the case of the Chartist insurrection, in
which Frost and others were concerned. There was a
case in which the persons were found actually guilty, and
because all the requisites required by the law were not
complied with they had nearly escaped punishment Al-
together. In fact it was a principle recorded in the
pages of the Constitution that every man should have a
fair opportunity given him for his defence. In fact,
throughout the whole course of the proceed;ngs it
never entered into the minds of any party
that the Raja was to be deposed without
having an opportunity of meeting those charges.—
(Hear, hear.) The Governor-General, it appeared, had
changed his opinion on the subject, but he had assigned
no grounds whatever for that change of opinion—(Hear,
hear)—and he should, therefore, prefer his original opi-
nion, when all the facts of the ease were before him. in
his despatch of Dec. 23, 1838, he said—
" We are called upon, I feel, by very strong conside-
rations of propriety and expediency, to bring the guilt
of the Baja to the test of a final proof, by the best and
most just process which can be devised ; and then, if
he should have been nimble to exculpate himself, to re-
move him from a throne of which he will have shown
himself to be eminently undeserving."
He would ask, did the Governor ever dream of deposing
him without a trial ? Never ; for, on the contrary, in
another part of the despatch, he observes—
" As the first step, I would, as suggested by Sir Ro-
bert Grant, request that the Raja should be furnished
with a written statement, embodying a full and clear
detail of the facts connected with the several charges,
and of the names (with any reservations which may be
absolutely required for the safety of the party) of the
witnesses by whom they are proved, with a notice of
the circumstances under which the e‘ldence was ob-
tained, and call for from him, within a certain reason-
able time to be fixed, a similar written statement of
whatever he may desire to urge in his own behalf. The
Acting Resident will, of course, take care, by every
means in his power, to see that his guarantees to wit-
nesses are, in letter and spirit, fully maintained."
That was opposed by the Resident at Sattara, because it
was inconvenient to do so, and that seemed to have in-
fluenced the Governor-General in his change of opinion,
although he still seemed to think that it was necessary and
proper. for in his minute of the 29th of December, 1833,
he says:—
" The reasons urged by the Resident, and concurred in
by the Governor in Council, are sufficient to satisfy me,
that it would not be right to persevere in the course
which I had previously recommended, and to present to
the Raja a written statement of the charges and the
proofs against him, calling upon him for an answer.
It is anticipated by the Resident, that this course would
lay the Government open to such proceedings on the
part of the Raja and his advisers,_ as could only lead to
fresh embarrassments, and would, at the same time, ex-
pose every witness whose evidence has been given to
cruel persecution.
" The course which has been next recommended as
open to the Government is, the suspension of the Raja
from his functions of sovereignty, and the appointment
of a Commission to sit in judgment upon him The sus-
pension of a person so placed as is the Raja of Sattara,
against whom a strong prima facie case has been esta-
blished, and whose conduct appears from every report to
be unscrupulously vindictive, seems, in the event of a
new trial to be decided upon, to be essential to the pro-
tection of witnesses, and to the fairness of proceeding on
ho as
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bearing the character of a final trial.
" The tribunal for trial might, perhaps, be best consti-
tuted, by the appointment of three of the most impartial
and experienced members of the services, whom it would
probably be expedient to take from Madras and BengaL
But I confess that, looking to the manifold inconveni-
ences of such a mode of trial, to the measures of import-
ance, and to the subjects of interest and excitement by
which the Government is already occupied, and especi-
ally, to the possibility that no part of this course would
be approved by the Hon. Court, I cannot bring
myself to
recommend its immediate adoption."
And he concludes by leaving the question entirely to
the decision of the Court of Directors at home. Now, th
Governor-General of Bombwhen he received orders
to put an end to all further inquiries, observed, that it was
due to themselves that the inquiry should be continued.
m,
He did not consider that it was due to the Government
s that
or the public, but he thought it due to the
•seve of the
the inquiry should be continued. In his
minute
in a
31st May, 1838, Sir Robert Grant put the
:
question
very strong light, and he begged to call the attention of
the Court to it
is to be •
of defending himself.
con-
demned without the opportunity
the
" It will be asked, however, whether he
evidence taken by
The Raja has not been told of
uhave neverY meant other-
heard in his own vindication.nk. that he will vindicate him-
Lieut.-Colonel Ovens, and undoubtedly tbteedl has a right to be
wise, although I do not think
ion that beforebthe
self successfully.
1837, ' I am farther
stroll dy of olmn
In my minute
.of the 15th August
fresh evidence which has been disposedeli-
cited of, the Raja should be made
and should be allowed the opportunity
against him,
caacsqeuaisineetende
thewith
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there should be merely the form
opi-
nion ; not meaning that
of offering defence or explanation.' I repeat that
or farce of a
Se far as this Government should
impartially weighed.
but thatttrhiale 'def to be closed by a ready-made judg-
ment,ence should be fairly heard and
be called to decide on that defence, it would
be my
honest endeavour to discharge my mind of all my pre-
vious opinions on the subject, and to.ijudge the case as if
I heard it for the first time. But it be thought thatthe Bombay Government is too strongly prepossessed
with the guilt of the Raja to be placed in the chair of

judgment over his Highness, let tke Government of India
constitute, in any manner which they think- fittest, an
impartial and competent judicature for the occasion."
It was on these grounds that he asked that
the Raja might have a trial, and that he• might
have an opportunity of meeting these charge s. He
asked the Court of Directors to grant it for the cake of
their own consistency, for they had all along denounced
those proceedings as seriously detrimental to the Gas .ern-
raent. He asked them, then, for the sake of cot sis-
tency—he asked them for the honour and character of
the British Government—he ssked them in the name of
that justice which had been violated and outraged in the
present case—he asked them in the name of the common.
Christianity which told them not only to do justice, but
to mingle mercy with justice—he asked them to give him
a full, a fair, and an impartial hearing. Mr. Lewis con-
cluded by moving his resolution, and sat down amidst.
loud cheering.
Mr. DAVID SALOMON'S seconded the motion of his.
Hon. and Learned Friend, and said it was not his inten-
tion to go into any lengthened details, as had occupied
the Court, he feared, at too great length on a former
occasion. He wished, however, to explain the reasons
why, on the last occasion, he had moved for further
papers rather than concur in the motion which had been
submitted to the Court. There were many points in
the case which had not been clearly brought under the
consideration of the Proprietors, and he was anxious
that that should be done before the case was again sub-
mitted to their consideration. He would. not go into the
details of the evidence for the purpose of showing that
the Raja was not guilty of the charges brought against
him, because it was sufficiently apparent, on the face of
the official documents, that the authorities themselves
were of opinion that he should have had an opportunity
of replying to these charges. But he would show that
the East India Company were themselves the
first sinners, by breaking the treaty and compact
they had entered into with the Raja.--(Cheers.) Even if
a doubt had existed, he did not think it was the duty of
the Government to have insisted upon the original terms;
and if they had complied-with the treaty, these unfortu-
nate transactions never would have taken place.—(Hear,
hear.) It was perfectly true that the Egst India Com-
pany had set up the territory of Sattara, and the Raja.
was selected to preside over it, being, by ail the letters
and papers transmitted to that country, a very superior
person; and he (Mr. Salomon) did not think that the
inhabitants of India were possessed of so much informa-
tion and talent as was ascribed to the Raja. The terms
on which the territory was ceded to him, were set forth
as follows :

" Terms fixed by Captain James Grant, Sahib Bahadoor,
on the part of the Honourable Company, Bahadoor,
with Rao Sahib Mooshfuk Mirhban Chimnajee, Pun-

dit Suchew.

" The possessions of the Punt Suchew came under the
British Government, along with the rest of the country;
but the antiquity and respectability of the family having
been duly considered, the British. Government have freely
bestowed and made over to him the whole of his posses-
sions as formerly held up to the war, with -the exception
of his possessions within the territory of the Nizam.
The districts of the Punt being within the limits of the
territory made over by treaty to his Highness the Raja.
of Sattara, the Punt therefore is placed under the go-
vernment of his Highness; the British Government is the
guarantee, and the terms are fixed as follows."
And then the conditions were set out, which it was rio`.
necessary for him to state. In page 20 of the Additional
Papers, he found a document headed
" Agreement on the part of his Highness the.Raja of
Sattara, respecting the Rajee Sree Chimnajee Pundit
Suchew, to whom these commands are issued:

" The country formerly possessed by you has been
freely restored and bestowed through the liberality of the
British Government, and an agreement, consisting of 10
oracles, has been made out and delivered to you by
Captain James Grant, Bahadoor, on the part of the Bri-
tish Government. Your country has come within the
limits of the territory made over to his Highness by the
treaty with the British Government, which having been
approved of, the Huzzoor, for the purpose of confirming
you in possession, has determined as follows."
So that, in fact, the Raja of Sattara made a grant under
the sanction of the East India Company of that very
territory which was now a matter of dispute ; and if any
doubt existed upon the subject, it would be removed by
the letter of Lieutenant-Colonel Robertson, the Resident
at Sattara, to the Secretary of the Government, dated
13th of August, 1827, in which he says—
" I have the honour to state, for the information of the
Honourable the Governor in Council, thn foatthr someePun time
past who has no offspring, having
past in a declining state of health, applied, about the time
of my arrival here, to his Highness for permission to
adopt a successor to his estates. This was duly intimated
to me by the Vakeels of the Suchew, and also by his
Highness, who, at the same time, apprized me that he
was engaged in preparing various papers which he con-
sidered necessary to enable the British Government and
his own to come to -a decision on this subject."

He contended, therefore, that when the Company's agent
set up a claim for the territory they were not justified
in so doing, and that was borne out by the testimony of
General Lodwick. That point was, in his opinion,
therefore, finally disposed of. The next thing was the
question of character, and in such a case the opinion of
an eye-witness was very important. He would state to
them the opinion of Colonel Robertson, who was the
Resident at Sattara in 1831:

" 24. The Raja entered on the duties, when wholly
confided to him, with zeal and a sincere desire to meet
the expectation of Government ; but his efforts will re-
quire every support, and ..every reliance may be placed
on his prudence. No good was effected, but much ill,
by dividing authority and influence ; and this, I respect-
fully beg to recommend, should be carefully avoided for
the future ; and that those jealousies of his Highness
which the followers of the young boy chief will doubtless
infuse into his mind, and which will not fail to take deep
root, and prove in the sequel the source of much evil
may be guarded against ; I have no hesitation in saying
that the more he can enjoy the advantages of
his Highness's society and personal example, and
the more intimately he knows the motives of
his conduct, the better. No measure is calcula-
ted to produce worse consequences than that
which, in a manner, draws a wide line of separa-
tion (except for a few days annually of a ceremonious
intercourse) between his Highness and the boy. It ap-
pears to stamp with the concurrence of the British Go-
vernment all the libels and misrepresentations against
his Highness which the interested instil into his mind.
It gives them a plea for saying, that the Honourable
Board are of their opinion ; and thus the breach is
widened by the very means adopted to prevent its being
so. It is not to the point that such conclusions drawn
from such premises are not just. This is not known to a
child ; and as he grows in years he will grow strong in
antipathy and hatred to his Prince ; and what may be
the result of such impressions it may not be difficult to
foretell, considering how reckless of consequences na-
tives often are, when actuated by powerful passions ; I
would, therefore, suggest that, for the boy's sake, and
for the sake of the peace of the country, all restrictions
be taken off his residing at Sattara, if the Raja deem it
advisable. Governmenthave every security for tho boy's
safety in the high responsibility of his Highness, and
every guarantee for his being properly trained for his
station in society, in the pride which his Highness takes
in the creditable discharge of every incumbent duty, as
well as in the desire which I know he feels to erzdicate
those prejudices already imbibed against him by the
minor, and to substitute in their place, sentiments of
confidence, attachment, and gratitude."
He had reason, therefore, to assume that he was a man
of that character, because it had been vouched for also
by other residents, and he had reason also to believe that
much that had been imputed to the Raja had been
brought against him by his enemies, and that he was in-
capable of eommitting the crimes imputed to him. It
seemed incredible that, during the time that Court was
complimenting the Raja, he should have been concocting
the vilest intrigues and plots, and he believed that such
proceedings were altogether inconsistent with his cha-
racter. Sir Robert Grant was anxious that inquiry
should take place, under the convktion that there was
room for suspicion ; and even, at the eleventh hour, he
thought it would be becoming in that Court to considerraeter
that question; it being one which affectedothewcortd.
of the East India Company throughout
In
hands which be believed to have been
the course of the morning a document had ceom e into hi s
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would
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out of order in charging th
of the mystery connected with thesseceleternaarnbsu)aitions.
Mr. MARRIor thought the ll.on. Proprietor_ was rather_

any document.
denied that he had made any such
Mr. SALOMONS
charge .—(Hear, hear.) He hoped, however, he would
n course. He would now read
be allowed to take lus
to the Court the three propositions of Sir James Unlike
and his propositions thereupon :
,4 The differences between the Raja of Sattara and
the British Government have been fully investigated,
and the facts connected with them so fully brought to
notice by my predecessor in office and my present col-
leagues, that it is quite unnecessary now to enter into
any minute review of them. I think it has been clearly
established, that the Raja has for years carried on an ir-
regular and unwarranted intercourse with the Portu-
guese authorities at Goa ; that he has intrigued with
Appa Sahib. the ex-Raja of Nagpore; and that he has
countenanced and supported attempts to seduce from
their allegiance certain native soldiers in the service of
the British Government.

" The first and second only of these are clear breaches
of the treaty by which the Raja of Sattara is bound, for
he is restrained from any intercourse with foreign
powers, and with all persons whatever, who are not by
the treaty subjected to his Highness's authority. The
third is an equally clear violation of the duty which
states professing relations of amity owe to each other.
" No doubt existing as to the facts, or to the disposition
which they indicate, the question arises, how are we to
deal with the case ? There are apparently but three
modes of meeting it :
" Ist. By subjecting the Raja to a formal trial, and after
inquiry 'made and sentence passed, lisiting him with ap-
propriate punishment.
" 2dly. By proceeding in the mode by which national
wron°s are ordinarily redressed, by at once commencing
hostile operations, taking possession of the Raja's terri-
tories, and acting as circumstances may justify under the
right of conquest.
"3dly. By addressing to the Raja such remonstrance as
may appear expedient, and passing over his past of-
fences, in the hope that the exercise of clemency may
give rise to better feelings.
" The difficulties in the way of the course first referred
to appear to me very great. There is no ordinary tri-
bunal to which the Raja could be made amenable, and
a special one must be organised, for the purpose of in-
vestigating the charges against him, if they are to be in-
vest.gated.
"A Commission has been proposed, and the expediency
has been suggested, of selecting its Members from the
other Presidencies, excluding altogether persons serving

EVENING SUN

under this Government. I think that, proceeding to
subject the Raja to trial by a Commission would be a
course very much open to suspicion and misrepresenta-
tion, however that Commission might be constituted. I
know that, from the civil and military services of India,
there would be no difficulty whatever in selecting Com-
missioners who would perform their duty without regard
to anything but justice ; but I need not add, that in the
conduct of States, as of individuals, it is most important
not only to avoid wrong, but to make this avoidance ap-
parent, and to place the character of the State for inte-
grity and good faith beyond the possibility of question.
" For this reason I should desire, if practicable, to
avoids the trial of an issue, in which the British Govern-
ment is a party, before a tribunal which must, of neces-
sity, be composed of its own servants."
And then he added—" Tho Raja of Sattara cannot be
regarded as a very formidable foe to the British Empire,
and those with whom he has been connected are as little
formidable as himself." On the 20th of June, 1839, the
Governor writes :

" In continuation of my minute of yesterday's date, I
now beg to submit to the Board my views regarding the
mode in which I think our intentions towards the Raja
of Sattara should be carried into effect.

" It will not be consistent with our proposed amnesty
for the past, to make any demand which can justly be
regarded as a punishment ; and, under this impression,
I at once abandon the measure which appears to have
been thought of by the Government of the late Sir Ro-
bert Grant, of requiring the Raja to maintain a contin-
gent of horse for the service of the British Government.
" Our demands should be limited as much as possible,
and should be confined only to those which will again place
the Raja in the precise situation intended by the treaty
of September, 1819, and will ensure the most efficient
-protection to all persons who have been obnoxious to
him, in consequence of the part they have taken in re-
cent proceedings.
" Before proceeding to Sattara, I shall cause a letter
to be prepared to the Raja's address, embodying the sen-
timents which Government entertain of his conduct, and
the reqtesitions which we deem it essential to make, in
()Mee to ensure his future adherence to his engagements,
and. to promote peace and concord between the two Go-
v inimmts. The latter may ultimately be embodied in
-formal engagement to be required from the Raja.
" The following is what I conceive should be the sub-
stance of my address to.his Highness the Raja :
" Ist. That after a careful and attentive perusal and
consideration of the evidence, it is my painful duty to
inform him, that I entertain no doubt whatever that his
irregular and unwarrantable communications with the
Goa authorities during a series of years, his intrigues
Ivith Appa Sahib, the ex-Raja of Nagpore, and the coun-
tenance and support which he gave to the attempt to
seduce from their allegiance certain Native officers in
"the service of the British Government, have been fully
proved.
".id. 'That these proceedings indicate that his High-
ness, unmindful of the great benefits which ho has de-
rired from the Hon. Company, has entertained hostile
designs towards their Government, at a time when he
was openly professing to be on the most intimate
terr..l3 of friendship and affiance.
3d. That by these acts he has most justly incurred
the penalty prescribed in his treaty. with Govern-
ment, namely, the forfeiture of all the rights and posses-
sions which that conferred upon him.
" 4th. That, nevertheless, the British Government has
resolved to overlook his past misconduct, and to grant
an amnesty ou the following conditions."
Fe should not trouble the Court with reading them at
length.
__

believe the above to contain all the stipulations
which, on the principles we are resolved to pursue, are
esseitially necessary ; but I shall be happy to consider
nay others which my colleagues may desire to propose.
" I find that there are various subjects of discussion
on minor points between the two Governments, the con-
sideration of which has been postponed pending the final
disposal of the Raja's case •, such, for instance, as the
transit daty question, the admission of the Company's
rupee into the Raja's territories, and some claims affect-
ing individuals.
" It appears to me, however, inexpedient to mix up
the.;e questions in- the present discussion. When I
proceed to Sattara I can take these proceedings with
me, and I shall probably be able to adjust these minor
matters, either in direct communications with the Raja
or through the Resi..2.ent.
" In conclusion, I deem it necessary to refer to a
posble, though I hope not probable, issue to the at-
tempt we are about to make, to re-establish our relations
t fiattara on a friendly footing. The Raja, either from
rnisapprociating our motives, or from relying on the in-
linence which he may fancy he has established, by
means of the numerous agents he has employed, both
in England, and in India, may refuse to accept our
proirered clemency, boldly assert his innocence, and
challenge inquiry.—(Hear, hear.) lam not prepared,
at this moment, to state the precise course which
be. followed under such a contingency ; but, in
order to-aveid the delay of another reference to the Go-
vernor-44,:metal of India, I think the possibility of its
oeedrrence should :be pointed out, and his Lordship's
aentmaents 'Solicited, as to the course we should then
I!..zurstie.
.• _ _ _

" in carrying into effect these measures, I shall do
'4ll in my power to convince his Highness of the serious

,2rr ors info which he has been betrayed, in friendly and
considerate language—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear)
—but, on the otter hand, I shall be firm in my endea-
vour:; to 'convince his Highness, that nothing can induce
Government to recede from the very lenient terms on
-which we aro willing to cast an obliTion over the past.
"In my former minute I referred to the necessity of
secrecy, as perhaps essential to the success of our
plani ; and, to• ensure this, I would now propose that
these proceedings may not be formally recorded until
GoverriarGeueral has replied to the reference to be
made to bin).

(Signs 1)

" J. R. CARNAC."

Now for the repfy of the Governor-General. It was
dated Simla.ly 11, 18:39, and was in the form of a
:ettfir from M. 'l'orrens, the Depnty Secretary to the
Government of India with the Governor General to Mr.
1V i ou ,;•hby, the Secretary to the Government of Bombay.
(The Hon. Proprietor here read the letter referred to as
-*follows.) :

" Tu J. P. Willoughby, EN., Secretary to the Govern-

imerit .of nombay.
"Sir,—l have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of
your letter of the 24th ult. with enclosures, and am
directed to state that the Governor- General has studied
with much interest the minutes recorded by the Hon.
the Governor and by the Members of Council of Bom-
bay, and that his Lordship assents to the general amnesty
which it is preposed to extend to the Raja of Sattara and
to the conditions under which it is suggested that this
amnesty should be granted, and that his Lordship also
entirely approves of the intention of the Hon. Sir J. B.
Carnae s himself proceeding to Sattara for the purpose
of ondeaeouring to carry his views into effect, and again
to place our relations with the Raja on a friendly footing.
His Lordship feels it unnecessary to enter into any re-
view of this cave. He has already avowed his opinion
that, whether led by malignity or folly, or a weak sub-
t;ervieney to bad advisers, the Raja has committed acts
svhich might justly forfeit for him all the favour of the
British Governrhent, and justify a sentence of severe re-
tribution. He sees all the embarrassments which might
arise out of a formal trial. He feels the strong objec-
tions which would be urged in quarters of the highest
autherity against a summary act of extreme severity,
and he is compelled to acknowledge the expediency of
the milder course propoed, and would indulge the hope
that the exercise of clemency may give rise, if not to
better feelings, at least to more guarded conduct. With
regard to the precise coarse of proceedings which is to
be pursued, his Lordship concurs with the Hon. the
Governor and Council of Bombay in opinion, that the
measures of amnesty being agreed upon, it should not be
accompanied with any demands which might justly be
regarded as a punishment; but there may be, as suggested
be Mr. Anderson, warning for the future : principles may
be laid down for the snore strict observance of the treaty,
and, above all things., effectual protection must be se-
cured to those who, in the course of the late inquiry,
may, by having afforded information, be assumed to have
W
given offence to the Raja.ith this expression of his
views, his Lordship cordially assents to theprop)oiseiatgiounes.
laid down by the Hon. the Governor of Bombay,in his'
minutes of June 20th, and adopted by his
col l.
care be taken in fratn-
He would only suggest,. that
,
ing the letter to thet Baja, so great guardedly and yet so de-
cidedly, to expreSs the views held by Government in his
case, as that if possible discussion shall not- be provoked
may
or admitted upon his own guilt or innocence, an
be doubted whether it has not been proposed to distinctly
assert the proof of personal criminality. and whether the
assertions may not appear in too great a degree to be
inconsistent with the leniency which follows. Perhaps__
the right of the British Governmeut to call the Raja to
account would not be weakened under the admission that
part of the guilt laid to his charge, luid proved, may
possibly be thrown upon advisers, tetbreadily listened
or upon agents, too carelessly overlooked. 111'
Lordship can hardlyi think it possible that to
a frank tender of oblivon of past transactions, and of
a return to cordial and amicable relations, and to a strict
observance of all the stipulations of that treaty, the
Raja will reply by a tone of offensive defiance, or by a
rejection of the
.just and moderate terms proposed, or
that he should endeavour to re-open the late inquiry, and
to continue the unseemly discussion in which ho has been
so long by himself and by his agents engaged. Yet it is
possible that those who have reaped gains by the bad
advice with which they have misled him, may see ad-
vantage to themselves in this course, and may prevail
upon him to adopt it. In such case, his Lordship
would willingly rely upon the judgment and discretion
of the Governor of Bombay, and prepared to support
any strong decision upon which he may determine, whe-
ther that decision may be in the deposition of the pre-
sent Raja for the substitution of his brother in the Raj,
or for any modified course of curtailing his political and
military power.—l have the honour, &c.
" IL TORRENS,
" Dep. Sec. to the Government of India,
with the Governor-General.
" Simla, 11th July, 1839."
In that letter the Governor-General had pointed out
the very rock upon which the Governor of Bombay had
afterwards struck.--(Hear, hear.) He felt convinced
that the feeling of the Court of Proprietors, and the Di-
rectors themselves, was, that by pressing the Raja to put
his hand to some document, admitting his guilt the case
-was pressed too hardly against him.—(Hear, hear.) He
deplored the conduct which had been pursued in the
Raja's ease, and could not consider the terms as a frank
tender of oblivion of past transactions.—(Hear, hear.)
He trusted that justice would be done the Raja, and
that he would not be permitted to be the victim of a feel-
ing_ of honour which would not permit him to subscribe
to an acknowledgment of his guilt when he felt that he
wag innocent.--(Cheers.) Before he sat down he would
just allude to the apps which had been made by the
Thin. himself from the
of
Directors,
of the local func-
tionaries to the Court I.pireeters, by sending Vakeels
here to get those difficulties removed which had since

led to his utter ruin, He would only read one extract
from the letter of the Raja, dated 21st Shaban, answer-
ing
to the 10th of November, 1838, and addresse Ito the
Court of Directors. In that letter the Raja said—
" The people of this country view me with hostile
feelings, because I attached myself firmly to the British
Government, and thereby interfered with the objects
which they had at heart ; owing to this I can only now
maintain my position, through the friendship and sup-
port of the British Government ; and the wish which I
sincerely cherish is to avoid everything that may, in any-
wise, tend to the injury of the British Government, be-
tween which and my family friendship has always existed.
"Your Honourable Court having taken all this into
consideration, can act as you see fit. Evil-minded and
disreputable people, forgers, and liars, having conspired
and given birth to all kinds of wicked machinations, en-
deavour to establish them as truths ; but well-informed,
and honourable, and upright men are convinced that I
have done your Honourable Court's Government no in-
jury, and never deviated from the most disinterested
line in my conduct towards the Honourable Company.
If due weight be given to these facts, the schemes of my
enemies will fail. But if they are disregarded, then they
will accomplish what they please. Great and just Go-
vernments, and experienced men must, on examination,
admit the truth of these observations ; and while they
cannot hesitate to punish such evil-disposed and inimi-
cal persons, not only to maintain their own reputation
for justice, also to inspire general confidence, they
will be kind to persons of high station, looking to their
rectitude. Such, in times past, has been the practice of
truly great and powerful monarchs, - whose memory is
justly held in veneration. The Almighty has now given
the government of this land intoyour Honourable Court's
hands, and I am therefore a suitor to your Honourable
Court for justice.
"If persons of high and ancient families do not
forsake their honourable principles, and thereby entail
disgrace on their reputation, it is incumbent to act
towards them accordingly ; for such individuals when
treated with high consideration by those possessed of
eminent station and authority, are thereby the more
confirmed in their honourable course.

" Powerful Governments derive great fame from acting
on such principles, while to those who suffer from a dis-
regard of them, death is preferable to life. Forgetting
what is due to ancient lineage, and for ease and subsis-
tence to yield to disgraceful treatment, is the part of
base people, for noble persons can never resign them-
selves to any treatment calculated to detract from their
good name. Every one of God's creatures is cared for
by Him. On his providence I place my dependence, and
Ido not look beyond him. So let the English Govern-
ment do whatever, on consideration, it may judge best.
I have always conducted myself with a due regard to the
high reputation of my ancestry, and therefore I rely that
I shall continue to enjoy the friendship of the English
Government. Your Honourable Court may rest assured
I shall never act like others ; I therefore entreat that I
may be early favoured with such a decision on this ap-
peal as shall preclude the possibility of my being con-
stantly subjected to difficulties.
" Having taken into my consideration how every thing
connected with my situation may always be made known
to your Honourable Court,lavould suggest that, after the
present misunderstandings are adjusted, in order to place
your Honourable Courtin possession of authentic informa-
tion, permission be granted to depute agents, and to
communicate in writing, to your Honourable Court. Un-
less such an arrangement be sanctioned it is impossible
to foresee what may arise from causeless suspicions.
"I entreat your Honourable Court to grant me a reply
to this request, with the same despatch that would be
used in disposing of any urgent case connected with
your own interests, for I anxiously wish to be informed
of your Honourable Court's sentiments on the subject.
" A long time has now elapsed, and I have therefore
deputed 11. de Waalmar, Eshwunt Row Raja Sirkey, and
Bhugwunt Row Wittul to your Honourable Court, and
they will have the honour of representing every thing to
your Honourable Court. I entreat your Honourable
Court to take their statements into your consideration,
and to favour me with your decision.
" I would conclude by reminding your Honourable
Court, that your functionaries in this country have sub-
jected me to great hardships ; and that I have therefore
employed several persons to apprise your Honourable
Court of this fact. I think it necessary to state this to
your Honourable Court, lest you should be surprised at
so many having been employed. The same facts will be
stated by all, so that no objection need be started on that
score. I beg that your Honourable Court's answer may
be sent through my Vakeels.
" What more can I say to your himourable Court ?"
Now he would say, look at the character of the man.
He was proud, overbearing, strong in the assertion of
his rights—in short, a regular Hotspur. He thought
the Officers of the Bombay Government had decided un-
justly against him, and he appealed from their decision
to the Court of Directors.—(Hear, hear.) Such was his
character ; and yet he was charged with crimes the very
opposite of all this. He was charged with crimes the
very essence of which was cool calculation, which, had
he possessed, he would never have run himself into
those difficulties which had at length overwhelmed him.
He cried out for justice. He had never been heard. Ile
called upon the East India Company to afford hiai an
opportunity of clearing his character. He denied that
he was guilty of the crimes laid to his charge. They
in duty bound to afford him an opportunity of set-
ting his character right with them again, and of showing
them that he ought to stand as high in their estimation
as he had ever done. In this case they ought to set a
good example to those people who professed a false reli-
gion. Notwithstanding his profession of a false religion,
they saw the Raja of Sattara making every sacrifice in
defence of his honour and character, which he had proved
he esteemed more highly than his throne.—(Hear, hear.)
Should the East India Company appear as the supporters
of injustice ? All he asked was for justice—for a fair
trial. If it should be proved that the Raja was a traitor,
let him suffer the punishment due to his treason ; but
let him have the opportunity of showing- that ho was not
the base character he was represented to be—let him
have the opportunity of regaining that throne of which,
if innocent, he ought never to have been deprived, and
the duties of which he was so competent to
The CHAIRMAN (who spoke in a very low tone of
voice, and was but imperfectly heard throughout his whole
address) said that it was not his intention to follow the
gentlemen who had preceded him through all the various
topics to which they had alluded, because he considered
the question as settled.—(Hear, hear.) He found on in-
vestigating the subject that all the authorities in India,
the authorities in this country, and the Ceurt of Direc-
tors, all concurred in the propriety of the proceedings
adopted in India.—(Hear, hear.) The Court of Propric=
tors must know that in the present case they had no
power to alter the resolutions which the Court of. Dire-
ctors had come to in regard to this subject.—(Cheers, and
cries of " Oh! oh!) It was perfectly true that that Court
had no power to alter or to vary, or to suspend,- any re-
solution of the Board of Directors after that resolution
had received the approbation of the Board of Control,
therefore the present discussion could be of no practical
use.—(Hear, hear.) Such was his firm opinion.—(Hear,
hear.) It so happened that when the subject had fist
been broached, he was out of the Direction, but on his
return he had looked the papers carefully over, and he
would say that if he had been a member of the Direc-
tion at that time he should have concurred in every-
thing that had taken place.—(Hear.) When he found
that all the authorities concurred in one opinion on the
subject, that the Governor-General and the Lieutenant-
Governor of Agra, Mr. Wilberforcg Bird, the two suc-
cessive Governors of Bombay, Mr, Anderson, the Com-
missioners, who themselves 'conducted the investigation,
when he saw, without exception, every eminent man in
India was unanimous on this subject, he must say that
he did hot consider they were now in a condition to ob-
ject to that decision. He never saw a more forcible
body of evidence in his life, and after reading the ela-
borate minutes of Sir R. Grant, who had most atten-
tively considered the subject, and considering the una-
nimous opinion that had been come to by the most emi-
nent authorities in India, he must confess that he thought
it impossible to come to the conclusion that all those
persons were acting under a delusion. Those gentlemen
were fully competent to form a judgment as to the
character and credibility of evidence, and it was
impossible to think that they were all acting under the
influence of some extreme delusion throughout this ins
quiry. An Hon. Proprietor had expressed himself as
thinking that because Sir James Carnac left this country
impressed favourably with regard to the Raja, that,
therefore his subsequent conduct was inconsistent. Now
Tithing could be more natural than the conduct of- Sir
to alter Carnac. He had left this country favourably im-
any. d
C:4towards the Raja, and when he became
ninformed,pin opinion
he;
and
dt fsruees h
wevidence,euld h be
tehn was
caseinducedmind. All the authorities were perfectly
saastieu that the Raja was guilty of the charges which
ratagainstto
ahni7
had been broueh
on
thoughtinthis the
Court would not consent case,
but would confirm a;ltaenrdatioh
was made
resolution which they came to
when the subject w
_made the matter of consideration
~e
in the month of February last. He would, therefore,
propose an amendment, which he thoughtwould not be
objectionable in itself, and which 'oil
•
not compromise
the opinions of any one as to the guilt of
the Raja of Sattara. The amendment he
innocence
" That the Court of Proprietors having ehpardorisdedhewf as,
it all the papers relating to the Raja of Sattara‘, adheresore
to the resolution of the 13th of February, 1840, That
this Court deems it highly inexpedient, and accordingly
i Executive
declines to interfere wth the responsible •
the affairs of Sattara.

Sir J. L. LVSHINGTO.I4 seconded the amendment, be-
cause he thought but little attended the discus-
sions of great political questions in tho Court of Proprie-
tors. He did not deny the competency of the Court to
entertain those questions, but they had no power to alter
a resolution of the Court of Directors after that resolu-
tion had been agreed to by the Board of Control. In
the case of the Baja of Sattara, the Government of India,
the Court of Directors, and the Board of Control, were
agreed, and the Court of Proprietors would exceed the
power which they possessed under the Act of Parliament
if they attempted to interfere with the decision. The
power of the Court of Proprietors to discuss those ques-
tions was a most valuable privilege, and he could con-
ceive a case in which the Directors might wish to appeal
to the Court of Proprietors for their assistance. But if
they made the Court of Proprietors an engine for inter-
fering with the Government of India, he fe!ired that they
might be deprived of the privileges which they pos-
sessed. Before proceeding further, he would briefly
advert to the circumstances under which the Raja of Sat-
tara became possessed of his territory. That territory
was part of the dominions of the Peishwu. The
Baja of Sattara at that time had never possessed
any territory, but was put in possession of it
by the British Government who had come into possession
of it in the course of their war with the Peishwas—one
of the most just wars that ever was undertaken. The
Raja. of .Sattara Nyas..a State prisoner of the Peishwas ;
he had no claim whatever on the British Government ;
and they would have been considered as acting with the
greatest liberality towards him if they had settled on

THE SUN,

him a pension, or given him a Jagheerdar. But as had
been truly described, we had raised him from the prison
to the throne. Acting under the advice of Mr. Elphili-
stolie) ive had entered into a treaty with him, the condi-
tions of which, if broken, entailed the forfeiture of the
territory, which, by the advice of Mr. Elphinstone, had
been conferred upon him. For a while his conduct had
been such that he had been relieved from the strict
superintendence which had been at first imposed upon
him. After a while, however, a spirit of inordinate am-
bition began to manifest itself, accompanied by a desire
to violate the restrictions imposed upon him ; and his
conduct was such as to excite the suspicions of the seve-
ral residents, who had been his best friends. Colonel
Briggs, as early as the Ist of Jene, 1837, represented
the Raja as extremely tenacious of his prerogatives,
—as resisting all control—as being flattered into a
belief of his own powers, and stated that it would
be for his future happiness if circumstances were to
occur to induce the British Government to give him
timely. warning. Colonel Robertson had succeeded Colo-
nel Briggs while the Goa intrigue was going on, and
he had given the Raja repeated warnings. He had been
succeeded by Colonel Lodwick, who was also disposed
to act in a friendly !manner towards the Raja, and it was
deeply to be lamented that the Raja had not attended to
the advice of his best friends, but had pursued a course
of conduct by which the fears and apprehensions ex-
pressed on his account had been fulfilled. A great deal
had been said respecting the question of the Jagheerdars.
It had been said that the English had broken the treaty
made with the Raja on that subject, but that was going
too far.—(Hear, hear.) How could persons be accused
of breaking a treaty, when the question was sub judice ?
The question relating to the Jagheerdars was one of
extreme difficulty. It was not Sir Robert Grant alone
who had opposed the Raja's claims : Lord Clare had
also opposed those claims, as was proved by his! Minute,
dated Oct. 4, 1832, page 38 of the further papers.
" An attentive perusal of the treaty and of these pa-
pers satisfies me, that the Deputy Agent has taken a
correct view of this case of jurisdiction ; whatever in-
strument passed between Captain Grant and the Punt,
could only cover his possessions actually within the Sat-
tarn Raja's territory, that officer being confined in all his
acts to the kingdom given to the Raja ; and the acquies-
cence of the British authorities in the Deccan would
have been necessary to have given the Raja jurisdiction
over districts situated beyond the limits of his territory.
(Signed) " CLARE."
Now the Deputy Agent, Mr. John Wall, had given it
as his opinion that the Raja's claims were inadmissible.
The seventh article of the treaty was expressed in the
following terms, further papers, p. 2 :
" The possessions of the Jagheerdars within his High-
ness's territory are to be under, the guarantee of the
British Government ; which, on the other hand, enga-
ges to secure their performing the service which they
owe to his Highness according to established custom."
He would wish to draw the particular attention of the
Court to the mannerin which the word "within" was made
use of in the seventh article, which he had just read.
He would also refer to the following passage in the Mi-
nute of Sir Robert Grant, page 79 of the papers relating
to this subject :
"12. In fact, however, the question at issue has al-
ready been decided against the Raja, not only by Lord
Clare's Government, but likewise by the Government of
India and by the Home Authorities. I refer to the case
of Sheikh Meeran Waeekur, reported on in a dispatch
of Lord Clare's Government, to the Court of Directors,
dated the 17th June, 1835. In their reply recently re-
ceived, dated the Bth June, 1836, the Court confirm the
views of the Bombay Government."
Now, he would beg them to look to the word "within."
If it had been intended that the jurisdiction of the Reja
should extend to the Jagheerdars out of his territory,
the treaty would have been differently worded.—(Hear,
hear.) The words used in that case would probably
have been " within and without," or words to that effect.
But there could be no question but what the subject was
one of doubt and difficulty, and it was to be regretted
that the treaty had not been more explicitly worded. He
would now consider the charges which had been made
against the Raja; and first, as to the attempt which had
been made to corrupt the fidelity of the native troops,
and on that point he would refer to the original com-
munication of Colonel Lodwick to the Governor of Bom-
bay; and the Government of Bombay, in remarking upon
that charge, said that they had no doubt that the inter-
view between the Raja and the native officers actually
took place, and that, although the Raja's intentions ap-
peared inexplicable, yet there could be no doubt that the
intention of the interview was, as had been originally
reported, treasonable towards the Power by whom he
had been so long protected. A Special Com-
mission had been appointed to investigate the
charges, and all the members of it had come
to the conclusion that the Raja was guilty. He
said all the members, for all had signed the Report, al-
though one of the members of the Commission had sub-
sequently protested against it.—(Hear, hear.) Shortly
afterwards other acts of a treasonable nature on the part
of the Raja had come to the knowledge of the Bombay
Government—he meant the Raja's intrigues with the
Goa authorities, and with the ex-Raja of Nagpore—and
on those points he would refer the Court to the minutes
of the sth of May, of the 24th of May, and of the 31st
May, which were among the Sattara papers, and which
he supposed every one present had read, and which were
conclusive as to the guilt of the Raja of Sattara. Fie
was aware that Mr. Shakespear had expressed an opinion
of doubt as to the Raja's guilt, but that opinion was only
a qualified one; and that gentleman had said, that if
furth ?r evidence should be produced, he might be in-
duced to alter his opinion. Unfortunately Mr. Shake-
spear had died before this additional evidence could be
produced. It, however, subsequently to the lamented
death of that gentleman, came to light, and the following
were the observations made by Mr. Robertson on the
subject, in his minute of 9th April 1839, page 343 of
the papers :
This case being still undecided, there can, I conceive,
-be no impropriety in my tnbmitting an opinion on the
merits of the evidence which I therein find recorded.

" My high res,-peet for the judicial talents of the late
Mr. Shakespear has induced me to read with great at-
tention his minute- of the 11th May, 1837, in which
several ingenious arguments are advanced against the
credibility of the evidence, to what then constituted the
sole charge against the Raja of Sattara.
" Much that then appeared quite inexplicable has
since been cleared up ; and it may be doubted whether,
with the light acquired by subsequent investigations, Mr.
Shakespar would have persisted in the opinion which
he has left on record.

" What strikes me as remarkable is, .that he should
not have given more weight to the high liaracter and
high station of the two principal witnesses, and to the
fact, that even the Raja hini.elf does not attempt to
assign any plausible motive for their combining to get
up a story, to be confirmed in the manner ever most dis-
liked by natives of any pretensions to rank, namely, by
their own examinations on oath. Had the Raja even
alleged any attempt on their part to obtain from him
presents or favours of any kind, one might have sus-
pected them of acting in collusion with the Brahmin ;
but, as the case stands, I really can perceive no grounds
whatever for not giving full reliance to their testimony.
" 9th April, 1839. (Signed) "T. C. ROBERTSON."
That was the opinion of Mr. Robertson, and without
meaning any disparagement to Mr. Shakespear, he must
think that the authority of Mr. Robertson was entitled to
great attention.--(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Proprietor,
Mr. Salomons, had the other day said the Governor-Ge-
.neral had at first been disposed to coincide in the opinion
of Mr. Shakespear, and he had read the papers with great
attention, but he had omitted to direct the attention of
the Court to the minute of the Governor-General of the
20th May, 1837,p. 333, or the minute of Mr. Shakespear:
" Mr. Shakespear's examination of the evidence taken
before the Commissioners at Sattara has not altered my
opinion, or convinced me that any doubt should beenter-
tained of the guilt of the Raja; at least, to the extent
stated in my former minute. He has indeed, pointed out
certain contradictions in the evidence taken; and I might
perhaps wish, with him, that in some instances cross-
examination had been carried further, and that the in-
vestigation had been more complete; but I am afraid that
we shall in. Vain have to seek, in any complicated inquiry,
a total absence of contradiction in a long chain of na-
tive evidence, and I should always with extreme unwil-
lingness adopt a conclusion drawn from the perusal of a
written report, in rejection of one to which an honest
and well-constituted tribunal has been led upon a viva
voce examination of witnesses. In the present instance,
the Commissioners consisted of officers of high character
and experience, the inquiry was patiently, laboriously,
and dispassionately conducted, and the Terdict has been
confidently *given. But a clue to a new circumstance as
"bearing upon this case has been found, and it is desirable
that the inquiry be resumed, in the hope that light may
be thrown upon whatever is yet obscure in regard to it.
To this extent I agree with Mr. Shakespear; and in re-
vising the draft of a letter to the Government of Bombay,
I have endeavoured to shape it so that it may meet his
views, as well as those of the other members of the
Council. (Signed) " AUCKLAND.
" 20th May, 1837."
He thought that minute would prove to the Court that
at that period the Governor-General took a decided view of
the case. He had listened with. great satisfaction to the
eilogiums which the Hon. Proprietor had passed on the
Governor-General—(Hear, hear)—but he could, not agree
to neutralize those eulogiums by agreeing to what the
Hon. Proprietor had afterwards said of Lord Auckland,
that he had been pressed and worried by the
,Bombay
Government into their view of the subject. Lord Auck-
land was too much of a statesman to be pressed and
worried into a view of a subject contrary to his convic-
tions. He had looked at the case in all its bearings, had
read all the papers with attention, and could not arrive
at any other conclusion but that the Raja was guilty.
He stated that conclusion in his minute of 23d Dec.,
1838, as far as regarded the Raja's attempts to corrupt
the fidelity of two native officers, and that the opinion of
Lord Auckland coincided with that of Sir Robert Grant,
also appeared from the minute of Mr. Farish, dated 13th
Oct., 1838, which would be found at p. 272, and the three
paragraphs of which he would read to the Court.

" 1. I have perused with the most unfeigned satisfac-
tion the minute of the Right Honourable the Governor-
General of India, dated the 23d ultimo, recording his
opinions on the case of the Baja of Sattara, which are,
in fact, exactly similar to those which the Government
had previously recorded.

" 2. I need not explain, that my satisfaction does not
arise from the fact that his Lordship has pronounced the
Raja guilty of the three principal charges preferred
against him : it arises from the oircumstance, that all the
obloquy and reproach which has been cast on this Go-
vernment, and more especially on our late respected and
lamented head, by the Raja and his supporters, are re-
moved. We have now the satisfaction of learning, that
there is no disagreement between his Lordship and our-
selves respecting the Raja's guilt ; and in this uniformity,
of opinion rests the complete Justification of the measures
adopted by this' Government, in the painful, difficult, and
resposible position in which i 6 has been placed.
"3. With reference to the 10th paragraph of the Go-
vernor-Goad's minute, I cannot refrain from observing

ON DON. TIITJRSDA V,

that I am not aware that this Government has ever
stated an that magnanimity in pardoning an
offence of a weak ally is net, in different cases which
may be readily contemplated, to be at all viewed as a
suitable and expedient policy ;' on the contrary, I am
quite prepared to admit, that cases of this kind have
happened, and may again do so, where the parties may
evince repentance, and are likely duly to appreciate the
clemency extended to them. All the remarks which I
have made bearing on this question (and I think I may
say the same of those which proceeded from the late
Governor and my colleague Mr. Anderson) had peculiar
reference to the individual case of the Raja of Sattara, and I
am glad to find that the Governor-General is of opinion
that, in this case, " measures of leniency and conciliotion
would be perfectly inapplicable.' "
He would now advert to the conduct of Sir James Car-
nac, and he had little fear but that he should be able
entirely to repel all those aspersions and insinuations
which had on more than one occasion been cast upon
him as regarded his conduct in this affair. It had been
said that Sir James Carnac had evinced a want of firm-
ness in his conduct, that he had exhibited weakness and
indecision, had become infected with the atmosphere of
Bombay—(Hear, hear)—that he was worried out of his
opinion. Such was not the case, as was proved by Sir
James Carnac's own minute, p. 296 of the • Sattara
Papers—paragraphs from 7 to 11 of which, both inclu-
sive, he would quote in support of his assertion :
" 7. On the 24th June an extract from the proceedings
of Government was forwarded for the consideration and
instructions of the Governor-General of India ; and,
under the same date, the Resident at Sattara was re-
quested to afford certain information which would be re-
quired in the event of his Lordship seeing fit to autho-
rise the line of policy which I had proposed.
" 8.- At this stage of our proceedings (namely, on the
21st June,) we received Mr, Secretary Maddock's letter,
dated 30th May last, transmitting for our information
copies of the Minutes of the Government of India, in
which all unanimously concur in opinion, after a careful
and attentive consideration of the whole case, that the
Raja's guilt has been conclusively established, and that
his offences are of that grave and serious character as to
render his deposition, and the annexation of his domi-
nions to the British Indian empire, highly expedient and
necessary, as an example to the whole of India.
" 9. Notwithstanding this important accession to the
strength and weight of the opinions previously recorded
in favour of this mode of disposing of the case, in my
minute dated the 22d June last, I stated, that I still ad-
hered to the sentiments recorded in those of the 19th and
20th of that month ; and this was communicated to the
Governor-General of India on the 29th following.
" 10. When, therefore, I became an advocate for a
lenient course being adopted towards the Raja, I was
opposed to the opinions of the following high au-
thorities :
" First, By the entire Government of the late Sir Ro-
bert Grant, whose sentiments were adhered to by the
Government of my immediate predecessor, my present
respected colleague, Mr. Farish.
" Secondly, By the Right Hon. the Governor-Gene-
ral of India. And this is the more important, because,
in the first instance, his Lordship was disposed to view
the Raja of Sattara's conduct as I did, as beneath serious
notice, but was ultimately constrained to change this
view, by the irresistible weight of the evidence adduced
against him.
" Thirdly, By all the members composing the Govern-
ment of India.
"11. These high authorities agreed in opinion, that the
charges were undeniably proved ; and, although some
variations are observable in their sentiments in regard to
the precise mode in which the case should be finally dis-
posed of, all concurred in thinking that the Raja's trans-
gressions were too heinous to admit of their being over-
looked and forgiven. I particularly notice thee facts ;
for, although I do not apprehend that any one will doubt
my sincerity, they are of themselves an ample guarantee
that I must have earnestly and conscientiously endea-
voured to succeed in my exertions on the Raja's behalf,
and that his failure and consequent downfal is solely to
be attributed to his own infatuation and perverse obsti-
nacy, and to the pernicious counsels of interested and de-
signing men."

It was, indeed, an infatuation scarcely intelligible, and
was a memorable illustration of the addage—" Quam
Deus vult perdere, prius dementat." Sir James Carnac
had done everything in his power to leave the door
open for the Raja to make concessions, but all his
friendly endeavours were in vain.—(Hear, hear.) No .v,
he asked would any one deny that the Raja was in con-
stant communication with the native Indian officers in
the service of the Company, for purposes which could
not, after what had transpired, be easily misunderstood ?
Was it possible for any one to deny that he had also
been in correspondence with the Governor of Goa ?
(Hear, hear, and cries of" Oh.") He would not say that
the conduct of the Raja was altogether proved to be
treasonable—(Hear, hear)—but if it had been such, the
leniency which he had experienced could not have been
extended towards him. But it was quite clear that the
treaty had been violated, and that no other course was
left to Sir James Carnac than that which he had taken.
The Lieutenant-Governor had shown many years be-
fore, and constantly, up to that time, that he was most
favourably inclined towards the Raja.—(Hear.) But
what says Sir James Carnac, on the 4th of February,
1839 ? In page 313 of the printed papers, paragraph
37, would be found these extracts, from the minutes :

" In regard to the second cause of failure in effecting
the object of my visit to Sattara, we are not left to con-
jecture. I annex to this minute two letters received
from Colonel Cans, dated as per margin, forwarding
some intercepted correspondence of the Raja's agents, a
short time previously to my arrival at Sattara, and
during the very period of my endeavours to induce the
Raja to accept an amnesty on the lenient terms proposed.
" It is almost incredible the number of agents em-
ployed by the Raja. He had sent two separate missions
to England, on whose influence and exertions he confi-
dently depends to obtain a reversal of whatever proceed-
ings are adopted against him by the authorities in India.
From the day of my arrival in this country, I have been
continually beset by his agents in Bombay and at Poona,
and, their efforts have been unceasing, to induce me to
consent to direct communications with them indepen-
dently of the local authority. I, of course, defeated
this object, and have purposely abstained from resorting
to native agency of any kind.'
It seemed, in fact, that the money which was supplied
for these purposes was about 3 lacs 300,000 rupees,
or nearly 40,000/. sterling.—(Hear, hear.) A confir-
mation of this calculation would be found at page 301,
paragraph 13, of the Sattara papers. He (Sir J. L. L.)
would not trespass much further on the indulgence of
of the meeting ; but he would conclude with a refer-
ence to the opinions of a man whose loss every person,
not only who knew Air: Edmonstone, but every person
in any way connected with India must deplore—(Hear,
hear)---a man in whose heart the milk of human kind-
ness overflowed—(Hear, hear)--a man who was inti-
mate with all that relates to India—to the native Princes
or to our Government—who had always been the stre-
nuous and able supporter of our allies and dependents.
—(Hear, hear.) Would not the opinion of that man be
of some weight ?—(Hear, hear.) He felt that every
Hon. Gentleman in that Court, and every man who had
the honour of Mr. Edmonstone's acquaintance, would
answer " Yes."—(Hear, hear.) He would not trouble
the Court with the whole of that gentleman's commu-
nication respecting the Raja of Sattara. ; but he would
only read this concluding paragraph, from page 378, of
the papers in the hands. of Hon. Proprietors :--
" Finally, I must maintain, that in political questions
involving the rights, interests, and conduct of its allies
and dependents, the ruling power is the sole and pro-
per judge, and that, in the case now under considera-'
tion, the British Government was not required to put
the Raja on his trial, and to be governed by the issue of
it, but was strictly justified in deciding, on the ground
of recorded and undisputed facts, that by his conduct he
had incurred the forfeiture of his dominion, and that it
was placed under the absolute necessity of carrying that
decision into effect, on his refusing to accede to the terms
of a new treaty, which, although it necessarily involved
either a direct or inferential acknowledgment of his mis-
conduct, yet only required him, in future, to abide by
the principles of his original agreement, the conditions
of which he had failed to observe."

It had been said that Sir J. Carnac had not attended
to the recommendations of the Governor-General to
offer milder terms to the, Raja than were contained in
the first paper proposed to the Prince, and which was
said to require of him a confession of his own guilt, but
there wa3 in fact nothing in the paper which implied a
confession of guilt. There was indeed in the preamble
an allusion made to breaches of faith on his part, but in
the second paper, or Mahratta memorandum (p. 303),
the preamble ran thus ;
" Information having been received by the British
Government, that your Highness, misled by evil advi-
sers, had, in breach of the treaty which placed you on
the throne, entered into communications hostile to the
British Government, an inquiry into these accusations
was considered indispensable. This inquiry has satis-
fied the British Government, that your Highness has ex-
posed yourself to the sacrifice of its alliance and protec-
tion. Nevertheless, moved by considerations of cle-
mency, towards your Highness and your family, the
British Government has resolved entirely to overlook
what has passed, on the following conditions, namely
" First, that your Highness now binds yourself,
strictly and in good faith, to act up literally to all the
articles of the treaty of the 25th September, 1819."
Thus the object of the proposition was merely the re-
newal of the treaty, and on the Raja's refusal it was
impossible not to see that he was an evil and designing
man. 'He (Sir J. L. L.) was Deputy-Chairman at the
time, and he could say, that the wish on all hands was
to do everything consistent with the dignity of the
Crown, and the security of the Indian Empire, to re-
store the Raja to power ; but his own perverse con-
duct, and obliquity of intellect, rendered it impos-
sible. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by seconding
th e amendment.

Mr. HUME begged to ask the Hon. Gentleman whe-
ther any communication had been made to the Secret
Department ?
The CHAIRMAN said he had himself received a commu-
nication, but it was personally and confidentially made.
Mr. HUME had been anxious to receive a satisfactory
answer, for he felt a great interest in the government of
Sir James Carnac, as he thought there never was a man
sent to India better qualified for the office of a Governor
than that gallant officer—(llear, hear)—and he had no
doubt such was the general opinion of the public.
—(Hear, hear.) He had entertained the same opinion
of Lord Auckland; and although there were differences
of opinion respecting some parts of the Noble Lord's
administration, yet upon the whole he (Mr. Hume)
thought that Lord Auckland's measures were generally
right. And besides the confidence in Lord Auckland
and Sir J. Carnac, he felt great unwillingness to bring
great questions of political importance into the Court.
In fact, he. paid very little attention to the subject,.
until the printed papers were put , into his hands. He
thought that in reading those pavers-lie should.lind, rea-
sons and grounds to justify the strong measures which
had been taken ; but, in fact, there was nothing what-

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ever in the lzhole of the book to warrant the course that

had been pursued. He had since reason to believe that
new matter had come to light, which was not known
when the Government formed its decision.—(Hear, hear.)
He therefore thought that the Directons and the Board
of Control ought to re-consider the subject.—(Hear.)
He agreed with the Hon. Chairman, that, as a genera,
rule, political, questions ought not to be discussed in that
Court, because the correspondence relating to them was
generally voluminous, and no man who did not devote
his whole time to their consideration, could make him.
self master of the subject.
The CHAIRMAN explained what he had said to be,
that the interference of the Court was useless in the pre-
sent case, as that act of the India Government had been
approved of by the Directors, and was ratified by the
Board of Control.

Mr. HUME said that the Proprietors had however the
right to meet and express their opinions, and endeavour,
if they saw fit, to induce the Court of Directors and the
Board of Control to reconsider their decision.—(Hear,

hear.) It was not his intention to enter into the details
of the question, but he must say that neither the Chair-
man nor the Deputy Chairman had taken notice of the
facts so ably stated by Mr. Lewis, and many of which
were new.—(Hear, hear.) It was not sufficient to tell the
Court that the charges against the Raja were proved.—
(Hear, hear.) They wanted to see the proofs. Looking
to the three charges against the Raja, he thought
that two of them were disposed of.—(Hear, hear.)
The correspondence with native officers in our service
amounted to nothing, and no man who had ever lived
in India could think of making it a serious charge against
one chief that he had sent presents to another.—(Hear.)
In fact, this occasional sending of gifts was the esta-
blished mode of maintaining friendships between native
chieftains—(Hear, hear)—and it was absurd to construe
the present of some shoes from the Raja of Sattara to '
the Raja of Nagpore into a conspiracy against the Bri-
tish Government.—(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) As to
the alleged treasonable correspondence with the Portu-
guese Government at Goa, he (Mr. Hume) could never
believe that, even if it had existed, which was very far
from being proved, Sir James Carnac or Lord Auckland
could apprehend any danger from it to the British sove-
reignty in India.—(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) The
Hon. Gentleman then read a Report of the Court
of Directors, dated 1835, and signed "W. S. Clerk,
Chairman," and "J. R. Carnac, Deputy Chairman."
highly extolling the conduct and ability of the Raja, and
giving a glowing picture of the prosperity of his domi-
nions under his rule. He (Mr. Hume) was surprised
that the Hon. Deputy should go back to 1831 and even
to 1827, for proofs that the report of 1835 was not justi-
fied by the previous conduct of the Raja in those remote
years, however well he might deserve the praise bestowed
upon him in 1835.--(Hear, hear.) The three grounds of
the Raja's deposition were, the interference with native
officers—the correspondence with the Raja of Nagpore,
and treasonable communications with the Governor of
Goa. On this last charge he must say that he did not
think Sir James Carnac understood the tendency of his ,
own letters. It should be remembered how high was the
feeling of honour amongst the Hindoos. He himself
knew Sepoys with whom he had had the honour to serve,
and who were more sensitive on points of honour than
many Europeans of a higher class.—(Hear, hear.) The
question now was whether the deposition of the Raja
was consistent with the honour of our Government and
the principles of justice. And here he must observe
that it was generally supposed that we held our power
in India at the point of the bayonet. But he denied
that.—(Hear, hear.) He believed that the confidence of
the native chiefs in the good faith and honour of the
British Government, was up to this hour, and would ever
continue to be, the great support of our power and pre-
dominance.—(Hear, hear.) It was therefore of the
highest importance that we should always do justice, or
that if injustice had been done by mistake, we should
not hesitate to repair the error.—(Hear, hear.) In this
case, he (Mr. H.) did not look to the opinions of Mr.
Shakespcar or Mr. Tucker—he looked only to the facts
of the case ; and he could not but observe that
Lord Auckland seemed to think all along that there were
sufficient reasons why the Raja should not be con-
demned without a trial.—(Hear.) But where had there
been a trial ?—(Hear, hear.) With respect to the
treasonable correspondence with Goa, which Sir James
Carnac said was fully proved, he (Mr. H.) could
find not a single fact in all the papers that had been
published.—(Hear, hear.) The Rajah had demanded
inquiry into the accusations made against him.—(Hear.)
He had demanded to be confronted with his accusers.
—(Hear.) That just demand was refused.—(Hear.)
Would any man in that Court be satisfied with such
a refusal, if the case were his own ?—(Cries of
(" Hear, hear.") Would the twenty-four Gentlemen
within the bar (the Directors) think themselves well
treated in a similar case ?—(Hear, hear.) Could they,
therefore, saTI that in refusing a trial to this Prince, and
condemning ti: heard, they had " done unto others
as they should wisii that others did to them ?"
(Cheers.) Could they lay tih...!r heads on their pillows
that night, and say that in opposthg the motion of Mr.
Lewis they had done their duty to their llow-man ?
Hear, hear.) He was aware how difficult was for
public bodies to retrace their steps, But nothing ‘2,2uld
be more important to the interests of India than that we
show ourselves determined to maintain go od faith
and justice, and that, whenever any act of misgovern-
ment might be committed through mistake, arising from
the distance of that territory fro:n the seat of Govern-
ment at home, we were willing to repair the mischief.—
(Hear, hear.) In page 299 of the Sattara papers, Sir J.
Carnac expressed his conviction that the Baja felt at the
moment conscious of his guilt. From the statements of
the Gallant Officer himself, he (Mr. II.) arrived at a
different conclusion.—(Hear, hear.) Sir J. Carnac
wrote—

" I had stated, that some of Appa Sahib's original
letters had fallen into the hands of the British Govern-
ment, and inquired whether he could deny the fact of
those letters having been sent to him. He did not deny,
as would have been natural on the supposition of inno-
cence, bat evaded a direct answer, by observing that
the circumstance of receiving letters did not constitute
guilt on the part of him who received them. A letter
from a person does not establish guilt against the party
to whom it is addressed. Where are my answers ?
There is Mr. Anderson ; he may receive a letter ; but
this would be no proof that he answered it, or that he
committed any fault in receiving it.' "
He (Mr. Hume) thought the answer of the Raja was evi-
dence rather of his innocence.—(Hear, hear.) He stood
upon his integrity, and in his (Mr. Hume's) opinion, he
did perfectly right.—(Cheers.) As to the charge re-
specting the Goa correspondence, was there one letter,
or a scrap of a letter,. which could be construed into a
charge of treason ?—(Hear, hear.) When he first heard
of the charge, he laughed at the idea of the Raja of Sat-
tam intriguing with the Governor of Goa, to overthrow
the British Government in India—(Hear, hear, and
laughter)—when the Portuguese could not raise 1,000
men even in Europe, without the assistance of Great
Britain.—(Hear, hear.) If, indeed, he had been in-
triguing with Russia, there might have been something
in it.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Hume) believed the
whole accusation to have grown out of the treachery of
one individual, who more than any other ought to have
taken an opposite course, although he was now placed
upon the throne.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Hume)
had been surprised to hear the Chairman say that
it was the unanimous opinion of all parties to the
inquiry that the Raja was guilty, whereas it was the
fact, that in the parlour of the Directors there were only
fourteen in favour of that opinion—(Cheers)—and one
of the Government Commissioners strongly recommended
a reconsideration of their opinion.—(Cheers.) Now, if
it had been charged against any officer of a Foreign Go-
vernment, that whilst his nation was our ally, he con-
nived at, and entered into the treasonable intrigues of
one of our subjects, and promoted hostile designs against
our Government, would not an explanation be demanded,
certainly not from himself, but from the nation which
he represented?—(Hear, hear.) Now, in the case of
Don Manuel de Portugal e Cassro, the Governor of Goa,
this had not been done.—(Hear, hear.) But when his
(Mr. H.'s) attention was drawn to the subject, he was
unwilling to take any decided steps respecting it until he
had secured all possible information. For this purpose
he sent a special messenger to Lisbon with a letter to
Don Manoel, directing his attention to the circumstance,
and requesting an explanation of the charge, as far as
that nobleman was concerned. The answer of Don Ma-
noel inclosed his solemn declaration, certified by a public
notary, that he never had any correspondence on politi-
_ _

cal affairs with the Raja of Saltara, arid that any writing
puipofting to be part of any such correspondence in his
name was a fabrication.—(Cheers.) For his own part,
he (Mr. H.) had come to the conclusion, upon a careful
examination of all the documents, that every principle
of justice, good policy,. and good faith required the re-
consideration of the decision that had been come to.

Mr. POYNDER, from all the attention he had given to
the question, was convinced of the truth of certain pro-
positions, which, on account of the lateness of the hour,
he would lay before the meeting as precisely as possible.
The first was, that a course of injustice had been pur-
sued for many years towards the native Princes of India,
of which the present case was only a continuation.
There had been a constant invasion of the original ter-
ritory assigned to the Raja of Sattara in 1819, and no
question against the Prince himself was raised until
1824.—(Hear, hear.) His second proposition was, that
Sir James Carnac pursued the same policy as previous
Governors, and carried that injustice so far as to require
the Raja to sign an acknowledgment of his own guilt,
and condemned the Raja without a trial on his refusal to
make that acknowledgment. His third proposition was,
that all the accusations against the Raja were frivolous,
and founded only en the base inventions of his enemies,
who had succeeded in giving the Raja a bad name in the
Courts of the British Governors, knowing very well the
truth, " give a dog a bad name and you are sure to hang
him"—(Laughter)—or perhaps the way the French say
it might be the truer expression, Quand on veut tuer un
chien, on dit qu'il a rage.—(Hear, hear, and great laugh-
ter.) The French proverb seemed to be applicable to
those who condemned the Raja upon evidence which was
confessedly perjured, and to which the accused was not
permitted to reply.—(Hear, hear.) They had put into
his place a man who was a notorious drunkard, and in
every respect a most base man.—(Hear, hear.) It had
been said that all the Governors and all persons con-
nected with the Indian Government were unanimous in
condemnation of the Raja. But, on the contrary, the
Proprietors had received in the Court on the last
discussion, the strongest testimony that the Raja
was an honourable and well intentioned Prince,
and that he was foully maligned, from two gallant and
distinguished officers, members of the. Court, who had
every opportunity of observing his conduct and examin-
ing the merits of the whole case. The Hon. Propietor
concluded by expressing his concurrence in the original
motion. • _ _

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Mr. FIELDER, who was imperfectly heard throughout
a very long speech (in the course of which the Court,
from being' crowded to, inconvenience, became exceed-

ingiy thinned) supported the amendment, and defended
the conduct of the Government and Directors. Ile read
numerous and lengthened extracts from the Sattara

rapers, to show that the Raja was guilty of the crimes
aid to his charge, and had been justly deposed.
It being then a quarter past six o'clock, the Chairman
adjourned the meeting to twelve to-morrow (this day).

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
• FROM THE DAILY PAPERS OF YESTERDAY.
GLOBE.—If it were possible that the arguments
of Sir Robert Peel and Lord Stanley, in their re-
spective recent addresses to the collective wisdom of
Tamworth and North Lancashire, could permanently sa-
tisfy their minds of the policy qf monopolies, we should be
compelled to think more humbly than we wish to do of
the faculties of those respectable fractions of our
fellow-citizens. There is nothing in either of these
harangues that does not resolve itself into one or other
of two equally groundless assumptions—assumptions of
which it is difficult to believe their authors did not see
the fallacy. The one is, that by admitting foreign sugar,
or foreign grain, we should simply throw out of the
market the same quantityof colonial or home growth. The
other is, that because the project of Ministers is not calcu-
lated to lower prices greatly, on the average of a series
of years, it is therefore not calculated to confer any great
benefit on consumers. . These two arguments, if argu-
ments they are to be called—the one addressed to the
fears of producers, the other intended to damp the hopes
of consumers—are, as we have said, mere shallow assump-
tions, on which it is quite impossible that any well-
informed mind should really rest, with any satisfaction
or confidence. They are, however, very well calcu-
lated for immediate effect on audiences not accustomed
to reflection on economical subjects. The same
simple considerations will suffice to demolish them
both. Is it possible that men holding the station of
Sir Robert Peel and Lord Stanley should be dupes
of the stupid notion that the demand and consumption of
corn and sugar is a fixed quantity ; and that no other
question is under discussion than whether that quantity
should be furnished from domestic or foreign sources ?
Is it possible they
.should imagine that a small difference
of average price is the sole advantage which the sup-
porters of free trade expect to realise ? We do
not indeed undervalue the importance of small differ-
ences of price. In order to estimate that impor-
tance, we need only consider how very small a rise of
price will preclude the poorest and most numerous classes
- of consumers from the consumption of articles not of prime
necessity. Where prices are artificially raised (though but
slightly) on all provisions, economy must be exercised
by the poor man on those least necessary. Thus dif-
ferences of price, which appear slight to those less cir-
cumscribed-, may, nevertheless, make all the difference
as to consumption or non-consumption, by great masses
of the population, of comforts and luxuries like coffee
and sugar. It has, on the one hand, been experienced,
that a fall of price, in the former commodity has im-
mensely increased its consumption, and that a rise of
priee on the latter has diminished it. With these facts
before us, it is idle to sneer at small reductions.
STANDARD.—But how will Ministers act ? Lord
Morpeth's intimation of a design to retire from public
life looks as if it were not intended to meet the new Par-
liament, but the general impression is, that they will
meet Parliament, and Lord Morpeth, we see, is to be
put in nomination for one of Mr. O'Connell's seats
(Limerick county). What is generally believed, in
fact, is, that Ministers will not retire before the 19th
of next month, when the writs are made returnable ;
that then, if they can find no pretext for violating
Lord John Russell's pledge, and postponing the as-
sembly of the two houses until November, they will
meet Parliament with a peccavi speech, and try
to prolong the ignominious period of their continu-
ance in office, by yielding to the Conservative reac-
tion, confessed by Lord Morpeth, though so stoutly
denied by all the Ministerial Journals. This would not
astonish us. The men are mean enough to resort to any
pretext for keeping place, and the duty of submitting
to the expressed opinion of the country may serve well
enough as an excuse for not subjecting her Majesty to
the pain of a separation from " the friends of her
childhood," who, however, never saw her until she
was of an age to exercise the functions of Sovereign of
the greatest empire on the face of the earth. If any
of the ordinary motives which determine men to re-
tire from stations, the duties of which they cannot
discharge with honour to themselves, and to the advan-
tage of the country, if any such motives could have
weight with the Melbourne Cabinet it would have ceased
to be a Cabinet some years ago. For our part, we shall
never believe them fairly out of office until some days
after having seen it ; for the bed-chamber plot proves
that they perfectly understand the trick of " going out of
the front-door and coming in through the back." That
a trick of some kind is in contemplation we are
fully satisfied ; and for this reason it is that we once
again strongly urge upon Conservatives the necessity
of patience and circumspection. We know that some
who affect to speak the language of the Court, say
that " Lord Melbourne will still retain office" with the
principal part of his Cabinet. Such boastings must not
be received as in the slightest degree expressing the
wishes or purpose of our beloved Queen, but they show
what is passing in the minds of those who have been
placed about her Majesty : and of them we know they
are capable of any stratagem or fraud that can serve
2,leir interests and the interests of their party. Caution
and tt.7
per were never more needful than in this the mo-
ment of ,::tort', when, perhaps, it is most difficult to
exercise them.
COURIER.-11.:e visit of the King of the Belgians to
her Majesty has given ise to many surmises in various
quarters, most of them corm,
ecting it, however, with con-
siderations growing out of the state of parties and the
*
impending change of administratb.2..l in this country.
These conjectures are, however, altoge,:her unfounded.
-
We are informed, on authority which may not be dis-
credited, that the presence of King Leopold his refer-
ence to affairs in which he has a direct interest himt:°lf,
as concerning his kingdom of Belgium, and in which
moreover Louis Philippe, his Royal father-in-law, and
France, would seem to take a more lively interest still.
We allude to the demolition of the fortifications
of the frontier towns of Belgium. The convention
which seated King Leopold on the throne of that realm,
contained stipulations between the contracting parties.
of whom he and the King of the French were of course
two of the principal, providing not only that the fortifi-
cations of those towns should be dismantled, but razed.
The grounds for such precautions were obviously rea-
sonable, since in the hands of the Belgian Government
they were utterly unserviceable as a barrier against pos-
sible aggression on the side of France, and therefore
worse than useless in the sense of that indirect guaran-
tee for the general peace and security which their former
conservation under a different state of things involved.

ANOTHER TRIUMPH OF STEAM-

NAVIGATION.
TRIAL TRIP OF THE PRINCESS ROYAL.

This splendid new iron .steam-stip, commanded by
Captain M'Arthur, made a pleasure trip from this port
to Dublin on Monday, and returned the same even-
ing (arriving early this morning), after a run, " out
and home," which proves her to be truly a " clip-
per." As we have before noticed, she was built
(both vessel and engines) for the Glasgow and Li-
verpool Royal Steam Company, by Messrs. Tod and
M'Gregor of the former port, and is intended to run be-
tween this and the western metropolis of Scotland. She
is of 800 tons burden, and 380-horse power.
The Princess Royal started from the Sea-wall of the Cla-
rence Dock on Monday morning, at seven minutes past six
o'clock, in company with her Majesty's mail steam-ship Ur-
gent, and arrived in Kingstown harbour, against a strong-
ish head wind, in nine hours forty-four minutes, leaving
the Urgent, hull down, shortly after passing Holy-
head. There were on board fifty-six gentlemen, all of
whom were highly delighted with the magnificent
accommodations, the sumptuous fare, and the extraor-
dinary speed of the vessel. Most of the party proceeded
to Dullin by the railway, and after enjoyming them-
selves for nearly two hours again joined the ves-
sel which started on her return hither a few minutes past
Fix o'clock, and accomplished the passage into the
river in precisely nine hours, or nine hours and five
minutes from quay to quay. On her homeward voyage
she met the Urgent on her " outward passage," (after
the delay mentioned,) off the Hill of Howth. The
Princess, mail ship, (a fast vessel,) had sailed half an
hour before her, and she overtook and passed her at
nine o'clock, before making Holyhead light. The Prin-
cess Royal made her last passage from Glasgow to this
port in fifteen hours and twenty-three minutes, the
quickest on record, and is, we will venture to say, the
fastest steam-ship afloat. We had the pleasure to be on
board of her on her pleasure trip, and shall notice it at
more length in our next publication.—Liverpool
Standard.

STATE OF TRADE .
(From the Manchester Guardian.)
The numerous and heavy failures which have occur-
red in different parts of the country, coupled with some
relaxation in the price of cotton at Liverpool, had
an unfavourable effect upon this market yesterday ;
and the slight advance pretty generally demanded
a week ago, was no longer insisted upon. There
was, however, a fair business done in yarn at the rates
current prior to last week. It is stated that the liabili-
ties of the banking-house which recently failed in this
neighbourhood, will amount to nearly a million sterling,
of which more than one half will fall upon Manchester
and the immediate neighbourhood, and the remainder
principally in Cheshire.
ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, MONDAY, JULY 12.
—There has been to-day some little improvement in the
demand for goods, but no change in prices. The wool-
market is dull, with steady prices.
HUDDERSFIELD MARKET, JULY 13.—This was as dull
a market day as any for some months past ; and the
trifling business that was done was anything but satis-
factory. In short, trade is in a deplorable state ; and,
unless a speedy change takes place, extensive distress
will be inevitable. Prices are quite nominal.

JEALOUSY AND LOVE.—ATTEMPTED SUI-
CIDES.—On Tuesday morning, two females, named Sarah Fox,
about 40 years of age, and Sarah Brown, about 16, were taken
to St. Thomas's Hospital in a shocking state from the effects of
poison, taken by them under the influence of jealousy and
love. In the former case it appeared the woman had been
living during the last three years with a man in Great
Russell-street, Bermondsey; and on Sunday morning she
discovered that he had got married to the landlady of the
house where they were lodging. She procured two penny-
worth of arsenic and four-pennyworth of opium, which she
swallowed. In the latter case the unfortunate girl h 541
formed an attachment to a young man of her acquaintance,
and which being unrequited, she procured at different titres
small portions of laudanum till she had got together a suffi-
cient quantity, and proceeded to put her purpose into execu-
tion. On being conveyed to the above hospital powerful
emetics were administered to both of them, and the poison
ejected from their stomachs, but they both remain in a de-
plorable condition.
WOOLWICH.,--PERCUSSION SHELLS.---The
Select Committee will, by order of the Master-General of
tile Ordnance, meet in the marshes on Friday, the 16th inst.,
at one P.M., for the purpose of continuing the experiments
with this new projectile, which is likely hereafter to exercise so
great an influence is naval warfare.