The Sun.
London, England, 1841-09-27 00:00:00

HOUSE o.b COMMONS.

Lord G. Somerset for Monmouthshire, Lord Eliot for
East Cornwall, Sir W. Rae for Buteshire, and Mr. Tuite
for Westmeath, took the oaths and their seats.
CORN-LAWS.

Mr. SHEPPARD presented a petition from manu-
facturing labourers at Frome, praying fe r the repeal of
the Corn-laws. The Hon. Member said, he had been
requested to support the prayer of the petition, but being
diametrically opposed to it, he was unable to do so.
An HON. MEMBER, on the same side, presented a
similar petition from Forfar.
An HON. MEMBER presented a petition from the in-
habitants of Kent-road, praying for the abolition of tolls
on the metropolitan bridges.
PRIVATE BILLS.

Mr. GREENE moved that all Standing Orders regu-
lating the practice of this House and of the Private
Bill-office, with reference to Estate and Name Bills, be,
during the present Session, suspended ; that all
such Bills during this Session be, after their
second reading, referred to a Select Committee;
that such Committee do consist of the following Mem-
bers :—Mr. Greene, Mr. Estcourt, Mr. Aglionby, Mr.
Tatton Egerton, and Mr. Walker. That three be the
quorum. That it be an instruction to such Committee,
to inquire whether there be any Standing Orders apply-
ing to such Bills, and, if so, whether they have been
complied with ; and that they do report the same spe-
cially to the House. That such Committee have power
to report on the same day on which they sit. 'That such
Bills be permitted to proceed de die in diem through all
their other stages.—Agreed to.
NEW WRIT.
On the motion of Mr. TUFNELL, a new writ was
ordered for the city of Hereford, in the room of Henry
Hobhouse, Esq., who, since his election, had accepted
the Chiltern Hundreds.

ELECTION PETITIONS.
The SPEAKER reported to the House that the sure-
ties in the petition complaining of an undue return
for Dudley, and in one of the petitions complaining
of an undue return for Barnstaple had been reported to
be unobjectionable ; and that the other petition, com-
plaining of an undue return for Barnstaple,had not been
perfected.
Mr. EWAR'T gave notice that he would move next ses-
sion for a reduction of the duties on Timber and Sugar,
and begged to state that in consequence of the motion
of his Honourable Friend the Member for Greenock,
he would not bring forward the motion of
which he had given notice for to-morrow, for a renewal
of the Import Duties Committee, but would do so in a
different shape at another time.
On the Report of the Committee of Supply being
brought up,
Captain PECHELL said he regretted the absence
of the Hon. Member for Dorchester, but he could not
omit the opportunity of expressing his sentiments, seeing
the misapprehensions on the part of military men upon
the subject, which was brought forward before the House
by his Hon. and Gallant Friend the Member for Maryle-
bone. That Hon. Member stated the unfitness of cer-
tain stores for the use, either of the army or
navy, and that a naval officer should be placed over the
Board of Ordnance, to which the Member for Tamworth
replied that there was no occasion for a naval officer
being so placed over that Board. In that proposition
he entirely concurred. He thought it competent
for any officer in the army to be attached to the Board
of Ordnance, but what he contended for was, that the
Board of Ordnance was so connected with the. Admiralty
that it was absolutely necessary that a naval officer should be
placed over the Ordnance Board. It was surprising that his
Hon. and Gallant Friend and Sir R. Stopford were able
to elicit the thanks of the House owing to the inefficient
state of the Naval Department as to stores and muskets.
He should always find it imperative on him, when the
Ordnance Estimates were brought forward, to give free
expression to his sentiments on this subject.
Captain PLUMRIDGE concurred in the Hon. Mem-
ber's remark, but would reserve what he had to say for a
future occasion.
The Report on theAdministration.ofJustice Bill (No.
2) was then brought up, and ordered to be read a third
time to-morrow.
The Order of the Day for going into a Committee of
Supply was read, for the purpose of postponing it till
Monday next.
The Population Payments Bill went through a Com-
mittee, and the Report was ordered to be brought up
to-morrow.
On the motion for going into Committee on Ways
and Means,
Sir C. BROOK VERE said he knew it would be con-
sidered wrong on his part to allude to a former
debate, so far as it respected himself per-
sonally ; but as the Honourable Member for Man-
chester had made some very severe remarks on
Agricultural Associations, and had named one in parti-
ticular, the Saxemundham Association, he claimed the
indulgence of the House for a few moments while he
made a few observations in reference to that Association.
He had that day received a letter from A Noble bard,
the President of that Association, in which he com-
plained of the remarks of the Hon. Member. The
Hon. Member had said that this Association exhibited
all the marks of a Conservative Association, that they
drank the health of her Majesty with faint cheers,
whilst the health of the Queen Dowager was received
with nine times nine. The Earl of Stredbroke was
in the Chair when the health of her Majesty was pro-
posed. He introduced the toast as follows :—" He
had the honour to propose a toast which
would be always received with the greatest
affection by her subjects--the health of her Majesty, and
may her Majesty long live in the hearts of her subjects,
and be respected by all the nations of the earth."—
(Cries of "Hear, hear," on the Ministerial benches.)
He (Sir C. B.) could say, from his own knowledge, that
the toast was received with every mark of respect and
affection. There were the usual cheers, with three times
three. " God save the Queen" was sung, the company
standing. The Honourable Member himself belonged to
the Association, but was not present upon the occasion.
and that Association was not one formed for political
purposes. The Earl of Stradbroke states in a letter to
him (Sir C. B. Vero) that the statement made
by the Honourable Member for Manchester was
entirely unfounded. He added, that during the
ten years the Society had been in existence, he
I- ad not allowed a word of a party nature to escape his
lips. He had only to say in conclusion that the Society
since its commencement had, in his belief, conferred
great benefits on the agricultural interests, as well as the
labouring classes.

Mr. 'lll. GIBSON said that if the House would allow
him to make a few remarks in reply to what had fallen
from the Hon. and Gallant Member, he should first
observe that there was a wide difference between propos-
ing a toast and drinking it. He could well conceive
that the Noble Lord in the Chair had proposed the
health of her Majesty in very becoming terms, but it did
not therefore follow that the meeting responded
to those terms in a manner they might have been ex-
pected on the occasion. The Hon. and Gallant Member
had stated that he had been at the meeting, and that the
health of the Queen was drank with the usual honours.
But he (Mr. Gibson) could say that a friend of his had
also been present, and that not only was there a prefer-
ence shown in receiving the health of the Queen Dowager
but that he had heard some hisses. However that might
be, it appeared from a statement in the Ipswich Express,
that the health of the Queen was received in the usual
manner, while the mention of the Queen Dowager's name
created the loudest applause. The Ipswich Journal
confirmed that account. He would also remind the
House that at the Chelmsford dinner the other day, the
Noble Lard in the chair actually eautiened the meet-
ing to drink the Queen's health with the usual acclama-
tion, to avoid, as he said, the censure of disloyalty.--
(" Hear, hear," on the Opposition benches.) In reply
to the Hon. and Gallant Member's statement, that no
political allusion was ever made at the meetings of the
society, he begged to remind him, that he himselfstated at
the very dinner in question, that he could not help ex-
pressing the satisfactioa he felt at the late change in
the Administmt:on, and at finding that their pro-
perties and interests were now in safe keeping.
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