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sume that tone of manly independence which was the reverse..
of what appeared on the face of the negociation.—( Hear, hear l)
It was incumbent on that House, in his opinion, to shew by
strong division, that if these principles were always acted upon
under circumstances however unfavourable, the country would
consider -itself bound to take, part with the oppressed,
against the oppressor. Nothing would avert the violation Of
our own territory but that tone. lie was therefore anxious
that the question should have a fair hearing. The House was
not then called upon to decide upon the question of peace and
war. If it had been, however he might deprecate the conduct
of the aggressor, he should feel it necessary,, in, the present
state of things, to vote against war. The question was, Whe-
ther, in the late negociation, the feelings of the country had been
expressed in language sufficiently. strong and animated ; and if
not, whether that House would: not now come forward to ase-
some that tone which could alone give satisfaction to the coun.
try, anti in which lin Ministers having failed, it was the more
imperative in them now to do. He was thoroughly persuaded
that this country was in a situation to go to war, if necessary i •
but the distress which had prevailed, and the necessity which
existed of establishing a new balance for trade, rendered it pal.
liable that peace was our choice. If, however, forced, either
for the purpose of stopping the expansion of the smthnents of
the Allies, or for any other adequate cause, there was, he was
convinced, a spirit in England, and resources sufficient, to
carry her triumphant throughout any struggle in which she
ntigh ten •age.—(l I car, hear !)
ItISBROWL- addressed tin. Chair, 1.01,1; 13 a tone of
voice scarcely audible in the gallery. We understood 14m.-to.
contend that the language of the British Diplomatists in the
late negociation was throughout consistent with the end the
British i'llinistry had in view, and in which they were ap-
plauded by most of the lionellembers Opposite, who had de-
clared their sentiments. In a confidential note front the pen
of the late Marquis of Londonderry, which did honour both uk
his heart and head, the policy of this country was distinctly
laid down to be that of non-interference. At the COngreas of
Verona the Duke of Wellington was instructed to declare,
" that come what may, this country will not be a party to any
interference with Spain." Nothing could be inure intelligible
than this, and nothing, as he thought, was required stronger.
If we disdained interference on one side, how, :could those
who instilled our doing so contend for our interfering on
the other ? We had remonstrated, beyond which nothtng
remained but to menace ; and if not prepared to make goeit
our menace it could not be contended that we ought to have
assumed such a tone. The Honourable Member for West.
minster was the only one as yet who had advocated war.—lf
they were to make war then on an abstract principle, lie
asked what that principle was ? lf, as the Ally of Spain, he
asked, of which part of Spain, for it was admitted that she was
internally, divided ? On one side the Hon. Member put ail the
sense and honesty, and on the other all the fools and knaves;
but that was a sort of division that all persons could not assent
to. Ile should like to know whether that Honourable Mem-
her had ever heard the opinion of Count Torrano, one of the
strongest of the Spanish Liberals, on the subject of the divi;.
sion of parties in this country.. That Nobleman had stated,
that his party was the smaller, but it was so much more active
than the other that it must on that account succeed. The lion.
Gentleman, after some further observations, which were inau-
dible to us, concluded by declaring his intention to vote for the
amendment. _ _ -

Captain MABERLEY thought that his Majesity's Ministers
had little consulted the eventual interests of the country, and
that by their negociation they had placed us much nearer to
war than we should have been if they had condected it other.
wise. He viewed with shame and disgust that part of the
papers which shewed that the strongest language used by the
Duke of NVellington at Verona was, that " this country would
not become a party" to the nefarious scheme in agitation.
Every man who looked at the state of this country could nut
fail to conclude that it was our interest% keep out of hostilities
which Might lead to a situation front which we might not be'
able to rescue ourselves. But when the Right lion. Gentleman
opposite deprecated so much as he said he did the aggression
of France upon Spain, it au surprise him that he had taken no
more decided part than to limit himself to the good offices of
his 111aiesty to " allay the irritation" melted by the menace of
the French. Such he was convinced use.'. the fear France had
of this country, that stronger language on our part would, he
was convinced, have deferred the meditated aggression. If
it were not from fear of us, how came it that France had
treated Portugal in so ditlerent a menial than what she
had observed to spays ! It wits the Contoitution of Spain
that excited her hostility. The answer or, sp:tin to the de.
mantis of France might have been, that she had adopted a
Constitution which had been guaranteed to her by Ruseei and
by England. Hut Portugal made a totally new change,--she
did not revert, as in the case of Spain, ion state of things
which hail before existed, and received the. ecknoaletiennenta
and approbation of other Powers. But although she had not
done this, she was shielded by the inthienee and force of
England.—( Hear, hear !)-It was true the Duke of Wellington
had a right, from his connexion with Spain,. to proffer his good
offices ; but as that country was situated at that precise ume,
it appeared more like a menace than any thing else. It was re-
(IWO of Spain that she should continue an tipper Chamber ;
but there was no Upper Chamber in the Constitution of 11112,
to which site had reverted, and the time had not yet arrived
for making any modifications in the Conetitution.—(llear,
liter !)—The Ministers having failed ut Vernon, had another
.Opportunity to arrange the matter after the King's speech at
Paris. He (Captain Maberley) happened to be ut Paris at
that time, and he knew that the public was: then the ruling
Vparty in the State; and had the Ministers of England laid Abe
Arerona papers on tho table of that House, at that period, 'such
a feeling might have been excited in the two countries,-
would have made France pause. As to negotiation after that
speech, every one who knew any thing of the matter, knew
that war was irrinnusibly decided twin without 'the possibility
of retreat.—(Hear, hear !)--To imagine that laying the papers
on the table of that House, would have had the effect of papers
the war, was absurd. Every one who was at all ac-
quainted with the present ruling party in France, knew that
they were struggling for their loot rights, and everyone knew
that they could not regain them without having an army in their
favour. That party was of opinion, that when once the army
had fought and bled in a cause to which it was pledged—when
once it had tin opportunity of beatowing honours, promotions,
and rewards to the retainers; they could rely upon its support
to crush the few remains of liberty,---(Bear, hear !)_lt was
ynt-
possible to be ignorant that that party was engaged in a con-
test to regain its feudal rights, its forfeited titles anti Motet --
(Heer I)—Was there any one who had paid attention to What,
had been passing in that country for the last two years, and
dill not know this ? Did any ono doubt it who had witnessed
the Law of elections, placing the power entirely in the halals
of the Government. The law of the Press, the most inonstrit.us
and undefined ever passed by. any Legislature, which after
declaring that an attack on the inviolability of the Kin should
be panitilted, went on to.declare that an attack upon the rights
of his birth, in virtue of which he had granted the charter,
should be punished. Was there any one who raw these, and
the transfer of the power of juries into the irresponsible hands
of judgoi, and slid not see in them an attack upon liberty and
every liberal institution ?—(Hear, hear 1)—If the Spaniards
did not succeed, they must look to the accumulation of Rus-
sian and Austrian bayonets in different points in Europe, pre-
pared to carry destniction to liberty at the point of the bayonet
through the passes of the Pyrenees as the cause of it. It was
at least cheering to see that all the respectable men in the
country were abandoning their property to the invaders, in
favour of some more secure retreat. But if they were uneuc-
ceesful, it would be time for the country to look to its own
Constitution, which he was convinced would be atterked when-
ever the great tyrants should feel that they tiered to attempt it.
In conclusion he begged to say that he should vote for the Ad,
dress, because he thought his Majesty's Ministers had tot car 4.
ried this country through the late negoeiatien with that dignity
which was tine to the trin. Although they had conducted
the country to peace, it was not a durable peace,—(lieer !)
Mr. Cilit.W.EN soil, that were he to attend to the sugges.
times of his own feelings, or of thine of the whole comitry, he
should certainly incline to that aide of the question *iii h he
thought Would in fact be to betray the best interests of the
country. Ile hail for two years never let pass u single
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