The Sun.
London, England, 1847-07-27 00:00:00

MARYLEBONE.

On no occasion since the passing of the Reform Bill
have the Liberal party been placed in such a predicament,
and split into so many sections, as on the present occa-
sion, consequent on the retirement of Mr. D. W. Harvey.
This predicament is not confined to the electors, but even
the Hon. Baronet, Sir Benjamin Hall, is placed in a posi-
tion which, to say the least of it, is extremely critical,
owing to his utter inability to please all parties.
It will be remembered that, at a meeting of Lord
Dudley Stuart's friends, held on Saturday evening, it
was unanimously resolved to get up a requisition to Sir
B. Hall, calling upon him to coal, sce with his Lordship,
and throughout yesterday Lord Dudley Stuart's com-
mittees were active!) engaged in endeavouring to pro-
cure signatvres to that requisition.
At two o'clock 3 esterday afternoon a numerous body

electors who are the strenuous supporters of Sir B.
Hall, waited upon the Hon. Baronet at his central com-
mittee•room, the Orange Tree, New-road, for the pur-
pose of ascertaining it it was the intention of the Hon.
Baronet to coalesce with Lord Dudley Stuart, or any
other candidate.

Sir B. HALL, in answer to the question, said that he
had heard that a requisition was in course of signature,
calling upon him to coalesce with one of the Liberal can-
didates, hut he begged positively to state that whilst
there were two Liberal candidates besides himself in the
field he would not coalesce with either, unless a requisi-
tion to that Pffcct was presented :o him, signed by no
less a number than 3,000 or 4,000 electors, or some un-
equivocal expression was made to him that such was the
wish of the vast majority of the Liberal party.
'I he deputation expressed their satisiaction at this de-
claration, and said it was their determination, under
such circumstances, to leave no stone unturned to secure
the return of him (Sir B. Hall) at the head of the poll.
Had he, on the contrary, said he would coalesce, it was
their determination to use all their influence to oppose
him. The deputation then withdrew.
The requisition above referred to was to have been
presented last evening, but it was understood that the
signatures appended thereto were not sufficiently nume-
rous for that purpose, and the requisition was with-
drawn. The reason assigned for this is. the general
opinion that Lord Dudley Stuart had been a party to the
retirement of Mr. Whittle Harvey.
At a meeting held at the Colosseum Tavern last even-
ing of the triends of Lord Dudley Stuart, Mr. Alfred
Daniell in the chair, this report was brought under the
notice of the meeting. Lord Dudley Stuart thanked the
meeting for having given him the opportunity of answer-
ing so calumnious a charge against him. He had before
heard of it, but thought it too contemptible to be noticed.
The charge having now, however, assumed a more
serious shape by being brought publicly forward, he
(Lord Dudley Stuart) begged to state emphatically, that
neither directly nor indirectly bad he been a party to
Mr. Daniel Whittle Harvey's retirement.
Yesterday evening Mr. Sergeant Shee addressed a
numerous assemblage of the electors and inhabitants of
Marylebone in the open air, in the Cumberlaud Hay
market, Regent's-park.
The Learned SERGZANT, after a few preliminary re-
marks, said, with respect to the retirement of Mr. D. W.
Harvey. that there was no doubt that gentleman had
grossly deceived the borough, and all those who trusted
in him. There never was a greater instance in the poli-
tical history of this country of disinterestedness in the
support of a political cause than was manifested on the
late occasion to Mr. Harvey. He came before the elec-
tors, stating that he could not afford the ordinary ex-
peoces of an election, and the people of Marylebone at
once said that they approved of his conduct in Perlia-
tnent and they would bear-all his expenses themselves.
—(Hear, hear.) With Lord Dudley Stuart and himself
(Mr. Sergeant Shee), Mr. Harvey entered into a solemn
engagement that if they would consent to have their
claims tested by a ballot of the whole electoral body,
whatever was his majority, if he succeeded, he would go
to the poll.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Harvey obtained a
large majority, and Lord Dudley Stuart and he (Mr.
Sergeant Shee) at once bowed to the decision on the
terms they had agreed to, anti retired from the contest ;
and then tour days afterwards Mr. Harvey said he would
not be bound by his engagement.—(Cries of " Shame.")
If the conduct of Mr. Harvey was quite inexcusable in
this matter, that of the electors had been very much to
their credit. They had preferred him to Lord Dudley
Stuart and himself simply and solely on the ground of
his political services to the country, and therefore, what-
ever disgrace might attach to Mr. Harvey, none attached
to the electors of Marylebone. However, Mr. Harvey
was now gone, and the question was, who was to be
Member for Marylebone ?—(Cries of "Shee.") The
Learned Sergeant then went on to explain his politicalthe
to
sentiments at considerable length. With respectcow
Irish Church Establishment, and the proposA to
n meantre-
the Roman Catholic priests, he said, endowmentlishment, which in
the support o f a church estabeits p
sent state was a uisgrace and a sc..ndal to Christendom.
p. hrnidstocw•nidzi
—(Cheers.) It meant that the advocates of
money
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would bribe the Roman Catholic priests with
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induce them to forego their routed
church which contained
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tie population of 8,000,000
tie believed there was no question on whichthemithbdiss
that they never wouldof
the people of England were mtoore i
made up than
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consenttecnthurch
own pockets to support t
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in any part of the dominions under
wasCrtlw very
different (Cheers.) The state of things
in
different from what it was in Ireland, for in England a
majority of the people belonged to the Established
Catirch. Whilst be said that, they were also to remem-
ber that according to his notions religion did not coi,sist
f pounds, shillings, and.pence.---(Hear.) He thought,
it no credit to any church establishment, much less to
one so wealthyas "the Church by law established,"
;bat it thould °lt*" fey ftir tie support of this

fabrics of the church from those who did nit attend
its worship—(Cheers)—wrung from the honest, con-
mentions Dissenters—men who showed their con-
scientiousness by paying their own pastors and build
ing their own churches—(llear, hear)—and he said
that it was a shame and a disgrace for an Establish-
ment, which, to its great credit be it told, subscribed
annually somewhere about 100,0001. for the conversion
of- the heathen, to extort money in the form of church-
rates from the pockets of those who had to build their
own churches and support their own ministers, but who
would not, on conscientious grounds, attend the worship
of the Established Church.—(Cheers.)
Mr. MANN moved, and Mr. HARE, of Mornington-
crescent, seconded a resolution, which was unanimously
carried with acclamation:—
" That the meeting fully believed Mr. Sergeant Shee
possessed talents and abilities beyond his riva;s to repre-
sent the borough in Parliament, and pledged themselves
to support him at the ensuing election."
Mr. FIELD, an elector, here intimated to the Learned
Sergeant that he had been told that a price had been
offered to him (Sergeant Shee) on condition of his not
going to the poll. He wished to know if that was so?
Mr. Sergeant SUEZ indignantly repelled the statement,
and told Mr. Field and the meeting emphatically that he
pledged his honour as asentieman and a public man,
that there was no price, no dignity, or place, which the
Crown had it in its power to bestow, which should
tempt him not to go to the poll, or induce him to forget
the place which he now held as a candidate for the re-
presentation.
This declaration was received with the most -enthu.
siastic cheering, and the meeting then separated.
Yesterday evening a meeting of the electors of Mary-

lebone, friends of 'sir J. Hamilton, was held at the
Yurkstiire Stingo. The meeting took place in the open
air, and was very numerous, but, judging from its com-
plexion we ehould say that non-electors greatly predo-
minated.

Sir J. HAMILTON, who was enthusiastically received.
addressed the meeting from a gallery, arid explained his
opinions and views concerning the chef political 'opics,
to the same effect as he had treated them in his pub
ished addresses. He dwelt strongly on his attachment
to Protestantism, and declared his conviction, fortified
by the candid declaration of a Noble Lord (the Earl of
Arundel and Surrey), that nothing would satisfy the
Roman Catholics until mass was said in Westminster
Abbey and St. Paul's, and the host was carried thi ough
our streets. He had been a resident in the parish for
thirty years, and his father had been a parishioner
before him, and it would still be, as it had been his ob-
ject, to promote whatever could advance the happiness
and improve the condition of the mass of the people.
Sir J. EAMILTON then declared that he was ready to
answer any questions which might be proposed to him—
an invitation which provoked so many questions that
Sir J. Hamilton goodhumouredly numbered the querists,
whose names were of course unknown.

No. 1 inquired whether the candidate would vote for
more bishops ? Sir James Hamilton replied that no
more bishops were asked for ; but if the government of
the Church of England desired more bishops, as they
would pay them out of the funds of the Church, not out
of the pockets of the people, this was a question for the
government of the Church to decide for themselves. But

it more bishops were asked fur, and it was proposed to
pay them from the pockets of the people, he should be
ready to oppose the proposition. The answer seemed to
silence, but not to satisfy the querist.
No. 2 asked whether Sir James was prepared to vote
for a repeal of the window duty? He replied he was,
upon condition that a substitute could be found. The
mention of a condition caused a little murmuring.
No. 3 desired to know whether the candidate was
prepared to vote for a repeal of the game laws? Sir
James replied that they had not much game in Maryle•
bone just now; but, believing that the game-laws were
harsh, cruel, and oppressive, and calculated to create,
rather than repress, vice, be was prepared to support
their repeal. _ _ _

No. 4 asked whether Sir James was prepared to ♦ote
for an amendment of the poor-law? Be replied that he
had long been a guardian and director of the poor in thi>
parish, and he defied any man to go to their workhouse
and say that the comforts of the poor were not attended
to there. But with regard to the general operation of
the law, he was prepared to consider it, and if any of
the clauses were harsh and oppressive ha should be read)
to vote for their repeal.
No. 5 inquired whether Sir James Hamilton would
vote for the abolition of capital punishment? He replied
that he would vote for its abolition except in two in
stances—namely, for the crime of murder, which was
condemned by the Word of God, and for the licentious
violation of female virtue.

No. 6 asked, whether he was prepared to vote for tht•
ballot? Sir James Hamilton, with some significant
allusions to a recent'' ballot" in this borough, an
swered flatly that he was not; and the answer was well
received.

No. 7 (his quegtion came from the gallery) inquired
whether he would vote for changing the income-tax to
a property-tax ? Sir James Hamilton said he wry,
ready so to modify the tax as to relieve industry, and t,
increase the tax upon property. so as to get rid of the
window duty and relieve industrious artizans.
The questions became now of a miscellaneous and
conflicting character, some of the questioners being '
questioned in turn. At length,
The CHAIRMAN put to the meeting a resolution,
which had been moved by Mr. Simkin—
" That Sir James Hamilton is a fit and proper persoi
to represent this borough in Parliament ;"
which was carried by acclamation, a few rebellious
hands being uplifted against it.
The usual vote of thanks to the chairman concluded
the meeting, which passed uff in excellent humour, owing
greatly to the bonbon/7/de of Sir James Hamilton.