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osneped Ilje power of granting Perfsion-S -Ont bf
the money proceeding from the sale of old stores.
He had then brought 'the subject :before the
1-Jouse,"and the ab(se had been removed.: lie,nOw
Should mention tWo other cases, in which the
House had not been pee-viously consulted ; two
Pensions of 1,2091. eacn, had been granted cer-
tainly to two rneritdrious Officers, but the Manner
in which this reward hud been conferred was what
he reproved. #le then read the minutes -of the
of Ordnance for granting the Pension of-
-1,!.400/. tb'one of those Officers, for his invention
of rodtets, and to be charged •anintally on the
Ordnance Funds. This vas equal to an order On
the part of the Crown, anti he deitied that the
Crown possessed such prerogati've. He also thought,
that if grants had been mane before and had been

it did not legalize the practice. Such Pensions
would not be unneetht:! controul of the House, if
the Crown possessed itie right Of granting them
out of such tunas. One of the pensions to which
'be had alluded, was granted to a Member di-. the
House, and if so, the Act of Queen- Anne would
be completely evaded. He hail no intention to
ask of the House any vote on the subject, he only
desired it to lie looked at as a_constitutional ques-
tion worthy \of attention, and that the house
should, by a resolution; put a check to granting
such pensions, and ithpose- the necessity- upon
those by whom they were given, tolmitne fit st to
the-House encl obtai.• the consent of Parliament.
tie concluded •by moving Resolution to that
effect.

Mr. WARN 'contended that the ancient prerogn-
tive of the Crown had been observed, and the
ancient practice pursued. There were many
branches-of the revenue out of Vwhich-the Croevn
had enjoyed the tight of gratitiog pensions front
time immemorial. , Anton:4st these ‘v ere the Ord-
nance and the Secreary of State's • (Mice. The
Honourable Gentlethau himself hail allowed that
theCroWn could legally grant pensions, to the
amount of 95,0001. per anown. He had searched
theitecords, and tound that up to the Ist of Fe-
bruary, the pensions granted by the Crown
amounted.but.to 57,000/.-per ann. The pension
gyanted to Sir Wm. CongreVe had been sanctioned
by the House. It thereloYe waS: not in the pur-
view of the Act of Queen Anne, which related.
solely to pensions granted on the hereditary re-
venue of the Crown. He should, on those con,
sidetations, oppose the motion.
Sir Jan N liztiEsFoan, had seen the Cougreve
rockets made- use of,, and could tkelne from his
own knowledge, thAt they v ere of the great:•st
advantage. He e(add see no reason why the it,-
v.entor of then, was not entitled to remuneration,
and to the gratitude of his cottony.
Mr. MARTIN replied, and the House divided—
Fur the Motion l3
Against it 7t
Majority against the 'Motion
The motion was of course lost.

Mr. GRENFELL postponed the Order of the Day
for the Committee on the Bank Deposits to Thurs-
day se nnight.

M. FIRTH.

Mr. MARsti rose to move, that the Petition of
Mr. Firth, late A t torney-General.of Upper Canada,
he referred to a Committee. The Hon-. Gentle-
man- repeated the allegations of the Petition, and
said that the petitioner stated, that he had been
utterly ruined by the injusti,:e of Governor Gore.
He adverted to the kno vn character of Mr. F
whom he described as complaining of being per-
secuted by a number of minute oppositions,,and
petty vexatio:ls; such as were calculated t' irritate
and inflame the nowt more than greater injuries.
Governor Gore, es 'stated by the petitioner, had
tried to make him quit !:is office, and for this par'.
pose, had deprived him of his emoluments ; he
had prevented all correspondence between-the pc-
titioner's tairtily and fri,,nds ; he also charged other
1 *natters against the. Governor, whi:b were not
very specific in their nature, or of much
ivag-
nitude. Ir. iFirth `had •at - length applied
for leave to come home, and then leave was re-
fused, and he was therefore obli:..,ed to Sacrifice a
great part of his property, and leave be volony
without the permission of Governor Gore. He
had now lost every thing but his loyalty and his
honour, and tame to the House for redress. The
Finn. Member advanced those facts not as being
proved, but as being alleded, and that in such a
%-vay, as to demand and justify. inquiry. lie had
not sought-to bring forward this case, bin he bad
_reluctantly taken it Ili), as a duty which he .could
not fairly evade ; lie had no wish, butt that jus-
tice should be done. The Petition being entered
as read, the-Hon. Member, iu conclusion, moved,
" That the said Petition he referred to a Com-
' Mittee, to examine the matter dm eof, and report
therm) to the ilouse."
• Sir J. BERESFORD said, as he was leaving the
House, he had been informed that an Hon. Mem-
ber was about to impeach General Got ea lie was
happy to find this was not the case ; he was well
acquainted with the General, and ho could bear
testimony to his character ; he had known him
when Governor of Bermuda, and afterwards when
Governor of Canada, and. lie knew that there was
-hardly a voice in Upper Canada that did not de-
blare
that the Governor had dune right in dismiss-
ing Mr. Firth from his office.
Mr.. W. SMITH could 'Out acquiesce in the ap-
pointment of a Committee for inquiry. He knew •
Mr. Firth was a man of perfect integrity, and he
had, no doubt, believed every word in the Peti••
lion. The Hun. Member had formerly presented
a memorial front the petitioner to the Secretary
of State, and accompanied it with a strong re-
commendation : he bad since, however, refused
to'present a petition from Mr. Firth to the House;,
as he did not think there was grtimul for inquiry;
and though. ad investigation would be grateful to
his private feelings on many accounts, yet he did
not fell. justified its voting for it,
Mr:FORISES was inelinedlo support the inquiry,
stud thought that sufficient ground was laid for it.
He feared that both in the East and West, Go-
vernors were Jou apt-to play the tyrant ;in the •
words of Buonapart e to Murat, '' making them
Governors:turned their heads:' He hoped the,
Mover would. not abandon the inquiry of •
which he had given notice last Session, relative to
the conduct of a Governor of the East.--[Here
the Speaker Called the Hob. Member to Order.]—
fle bad erred not intentionally; but through igno-