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Peninsula. Whatever opinions may be enter-
tained with respect to modes of Government,
there are now, we trust, few in this country who
think one nation authorised in deciding what
Government is most proper for another, and
still fewer who do not think the case of Spain
affords less juPtification of interference than
any other on record. In other cases, the pretext
has been the danger to which the interfering
State was threatened from the spread of the dis-
order; but the everlasting exclamation of the
Ultras is—let us rescue a Bourbon Prince from
the difficulties of his situation ; a Bourbon Prince
must have no restraint imposed on him. The
people are considered like cattle on an 'estate,
the absdlute property of legitimate Sovereigns.
The objects nearest the hearts of the Ultras we
are aware is the conquest, in the Peninsula, of
their old priviliges, and the reduction of the
people of France to their former servitude;
and this ardent regard for every branch of
tilt Bourbon family is merely of a piece with
the disgusting affectation and hollowness which
have always characterized the Noblesse of
France.— It will be observed, that the
speeches at the dinner seldom travel beyond the
condemnation of the doctrine of interference,
and the expression of a generous sympathy with
the people of the Peninsula. On the subject of
the course which we ourselves ought to hold,
opinion is naturally divided, and the Gentlemen
present very properly abstained from entering on
it.—Other proceedings will no doubt immedi-
ately follow those of yesterday. On British
generosity the Spaniards and Portuguese have a
strong claim, evert could we suppose that the
Portuguese have no claims on our justice.

[Bu vrisn PltE9s.l
The outrage on the Deputies of France in the
person of M. Manuel has created a sensation in
that country which is not likely soon to subside,
aftd which may 1w productive of the most itnpor-
taut consequences. The l'aris Papers of Wed'.
nestle y morning and evening, received by express,
with confidential private letters of the same date,

[MORNING HERALD.]
Some recent speeches. and 'proceedings in the
House of Commons, relative to Ireland, deserve
particular notice. They may be regarded as pro-
phetic of a somewhat better state of things there,
even in spite of the frequent and melancholy dis-
appointments that have followed the measures
hitherto applied to ameliorate the condition of the
rich. It is an interesting fact, stated some nights
since by Mr. Canning, that the proceedings of
the Irish Government, up to the moment at
which he spoke, had the cordial and unanimous
support of the Government in this country.—
The idle rumours, therefore, of Ministerial
schisms, and the recall of the Chief Governor,
are reduced to their proper value—a cipher.
The next point of importance is the pledge given
by, the Government, that no professions, no pre-
tensions, shall henceforth procure for any party
the dangerous privilege of forming secret and ex-
clusive, Associations—in a word, that what are
called Orange Lodges shall be put down, and
prohibited by extending the law of this country
to Ireland. This will strike at one of the
main roots of feud and faction, without any
coercion of just` eights. At all events, they must
be a very overweening party in Irelend, who
should murmur at the extension to them of a

represent the public feeling and indignation to
be at their height in that troubled capital.-
- Violent scenes are stated to have taken place at
several cay'es on the Boulevards during Tuesday
night. Groups of individuals attached to the
Left Side read the Ultra paper, the Etoile, aloud
with mockery, and declaimed in the most violent
manner against the Ministry, the garde royale,
anti the gendarmerie in particular, who forced
M. Manuel from the Chamber when the national
guard refused to act. Parties of the garde royale
paraded the Boulevards to a very late hour. The
feelings of the people of Paris have evidently
been kept down by an overwhelming military
force ; that capital, on the day of the violent
expulsion of M. Manuel, swarmed in every part
with troops and gendarmerie ; all the bridges
tind avenues were lined with bayonets and cannon,
and Paris was one vast armed camp.

law, which has now for several years existed in
England not only uncomplained of, but unfelt.
If there be any doubt upon the extension of the
Act in this case, it is only the doubt whether it
be necessary, and whether the secret bonds
anti organization of the Orange Lodges are
not illegal under the actual state of the laws.—
No one who had made himself at all acquainted
with the state oftreland, will deny that a strong
Government .is indispensible there. But a

strong Government, to be benelical, tnus
also, above all things, be an equal one.—
The third topic—perhaps the most importan

of all—is the measure about to be intro

duced by Mr. Goulburn, for the commutation of
tithes. The adoption of the very phrase, by a

member of the Administration is an important
circumstance, even if ho had not given an outline
of his views. The operative machinery of the
projected measure, which is to he divided into
two Bills, is so complicated and minute, and as
yet so little known in detail, that no judgment
can be formed of it. But in the hands of such a

person as its author, who derives authority from
his office and his opinions, it can hardly fail to
inspire confidence in the quarter where alarm
and opposition might be most naturally expected :
and as to the lay community of Ireland, it ap-
pears that the Irish Aternhers of all
_parties have

[NEW TIMES.]
Our opinion of the insignificance of the distur-
bances at Paris is fully confirmed. The Renter,
far from being depressed, have actually risen 14
per cent. The rlosipg price of Tuesday, was
80, 55 ; ajul of Wednesday 81, 80. A few
groupes of idle people were collected here and
there in the streets ; and an occasional shout of
cc Vive Manuel!" was heard: but at. the ap.
peeranco of the gendarmes all was quiet, and
the idlers, dispersed with great celerity. We are
disposed to think that no great judgment was
*hewn in the .mode of attack on M. Manuel.
it is very true that he was a disgrace to the
Chamber nf Deputies, both from his conduct
in the Rebel Chamber of Deputies Wild from
the seditious language which he held last Ses-
sion in the tribune : and it would have been
perfealy right to have expelled him, had he
repeated in the course of the present Session the
expres4,ions which on a former occasion excited
so much disgust. But by interrupting him in
the midst of Ids speech, he was left to allege
that his, sentence was unfinished, and to give it
what turn he chose. It will he observed, that
the Ministers took no part in the interrup-
tion, and even showed a tacit disapprobation of
the measure. We have been informed, indeed,
that one of them expressed a decided wish that
M. Manuel should finish his speech, and meant
to have answered him on the spot. But no sooner
bad Munnel let it be seen that he meant hll-
rectly to justify the doctrine of Regicide, than
the indignation felt by the Members of the ex..
treme Right burst out with uncontrolable
lence, and carried the Assembly along with them.
'The Centre even seemed to participate the same
feelings, though in a less enthusiastic degree;
and it is said that some even of Manuel's'friends
told him he deserved to he expelled.

declared themselves not only satisliitcl•with the
measure, but particularly grateful to the Secre-
tary. It is by asyttens of Administration such

as that of which there is now at least a promise,
and by it only, that the condition of the
Irish can be improved. They must be governed
with a strong, but an equal hand—coercion
must be accompanied with gradual soothing and
relief, in order to break and discipline them
into that state of (if we may use the expression)
social mansuetude, which is utterly incompatible
.with their actual and long existing state of in,.
perfect political protection, and consequently
imperfect civilization.

CMOR,NINU: CiffLONICLE.I
The dinner in konour of the Spanish and Per.
tuguese AMbassedprs and the Duke de San Lo•
renzo, afrortiva most unequivocal proof of the
feelings of-ell .classes and parties in tills country
On the subject of the threatened invasion of the

PARIS PAPERS.

CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES.
sITTING or ItARER 5.
At a quarter past one, the PRESIDENT entered
the 11. Immediately after, M. Caumartin
went up to him, delivered a packet, and retired.
The president opened and read it.
MM.' Forbin des Issarts, Duhamel, Dudon,
Pavy4 Benoit de Martignac, and many other
Members of the right side, successively went up
to his bUreau, and surrounded him. Different
Members on the same side formed themselves into
various groups in the middle of, the hall, and dis.
coursed with each other; the packet which ,had
been delivered seemed to be the object of their
conversation. •
The Duke of Belluno, M. de Peyronnet, and
M. de Chateaubriand, entered after each other,
and, took their seats on the Ministerial Bench.
At two o'clock the President rang his bell,
and opened the sitting.
• During the reading of the proces-verbal, the
Ministers of the Interior and of the Marine were
introduced, and took their places near their col-
leagues. ,
The PREslDENT—Messieurs, the following letter has been
addressed to the President of this Chamber :—.
" M. Le President—We have the honour to address to you
a Declaration, which we request you will communicate to the
Chamber.—(Signed) Foy, Deraarcay, Cabanon, de la Tour
du Pin and others.
On the right—What is the Declaration ?
The President—lt is a Declaration which contains a Protest
against the proceedings adopted towards M. Manuel.
On the right—Do not read it.
M. Dudon--I demand to be beard against the reading of it—
[Murmurs on the left].
On the right—No, no, it is not worth while. The order of
the day.
M. Dudon—l wish to shew the grounds of objection which
exist to reading a document consisting of a protest.
On the left side—lt is a declaration.
M. Dudon continued—Address, protest, or declaration, it is
all the same, when the object is to protest against a proceeding
of the Chamber. That is why I oppose the reading of it. In
support of this argument I will adduce that which was recog-
nised by the Constituent Assembly, against the protest of 266
Members of that Assembly.
On the left—What a comparison 1 They then protested
against the Constitution ; we protest in favour of it.
M. Dution—l invoke the same principles which then served
as guides to the Assembly.
The whole left side rose. The orator was vehementlyapos-
trophised .by several Members on that side. The voices of
MM. Dcatarcay, do Lameth, Foy, &c. were .dietingaished.
The President had some difficulty in restoring- order.
M. Dudon—lt is a principle of every representative assembly,
that the will of the majority constitutes the law. While die:.
cussion is going on, the minority may employ every means in
its power ; but when the majority has decided, the minority
must submit.' Otherwise there would be disorder and anarchy,
and no conclusion could ever be attained. After the decision
of the majority, the protest of the minority is an act of rebel-
lion.—(Freidi interruption ; fresh murmurs on the left.)—You •
often cite the examplesSf England, and you will not fail to. re-
fer to her example on this occasion. In the Chamber of Peers
the protests of the minority are allowed ; but we must recollect
all teat passes in that Chamber. This custom arises from the
circumstance that all the Members sign the acts anti decisions
of the Chamber; the Opposition sign and state the grounds of
their dissent. But this practice does not exist among us.—
(,11. Lameth interrupted the orator.)--I am astonished that
M. Lameth should question what I say, for in' the Constituent
Assembly it was lie who opposed most strenuously the protest
of the 25b Members. Yet, that number included a third of the
,Members composing that Assembly.—( Laughter on the right.).
—lt was then said, that they who should protest would be
considered as having abdicated the functions which they exer-
cised.
During the speech of the Hon. Member, the President of the
Council of Ministers was introduced.
The tumult on the left increased r all the Members on that
aide vociferated together : it wits_ impossible to distinguish
any thiug-that was said. The President was appealed to.
The President—l have read the letter which Iva.% written to
me. I was asked what it enclosed. I replied, that it con-
' tabled a declaration. At present, the reading of this piece is
disputed. I cannot refuse the right to speak updn that subject.
/IL Dutton repeated his last sentence ; and concluded by
moving the order of the day.
M. Foy—The last words of the Speaker who preceded me
embrace the whole of this question. He has cited I know not
what Decree of 1791, which prohibited functionaries and mem-
bers of deliberative bodies,
_under pain of forfeiture, from mak-
ing protests. It is 'precisely because we arc placed in a supe-
rior sphere that such considerations are inapplicable to us. I
ask you, is there in the Charter a single word which forbids
protests and declarations? No one, consequently, can refuse
to a fraction of this Chamber the right of making a declaration.
This declaration having reached the table of the President, the
President, by virtue of the 12th Article of the regulation,ought
to read it. I ask of you, Gentleman, has the former that power'
to refuse the reading of a declaration which concerns the.viglits
of the Chamber, a declaration which concerns the rights of the
Deputies,—a declaration, in fact, which concerns the sanctity
of the Charter? Can the Chamber propose to the President
the interdiction of reading,,h ?
On the Right—Yes.—Plurmurs on the left !)
General Foy resumed—Under the momentous, solemn, and
terrible circumstances (Laughter on the right,) which surround
us, ought you to be allowed to refuse to the minority the ex-
ercise of Its rights ? Its rights, which are recorded in the Char.
ter, in the hearts of Frencnmen,-in the hearts of that brave
National Guard, which yesterday gave so noble an example of
their respect for the representative dignity (Violent murmurs
on time right.) No i the Charter is not lost, when my country
contains such citizens. I demand that the declaration be read.
The President-1 am going to put the reading of the declara-
tion to the vote (Murmurs on the left.)
M. Demarcay to the President—Take care; Sir, the day of
justice will come (explosion on the right. Order'i order I)
The President (with dignity)—Sir, I shall never be intimi.
": .
the M.
in the exercise of my functions.
u (IC KI 'WISH llt E ASSIZ ES.—The trial of ttie Dupont de L'Eure42You have gendarmes at hand to
Reverend W ILLIAM EYRE canoe on at Aylesbury seize upon us (Violent murmurs on the,right side.)
on Monday. It will be recollected that this,
deintjut the reading of the declaration to the vote.
T the right centre rave, tumult waft at its height on
Reverend Gentleman was charged with committing the left side
ITehleef it'arensil
all the Members of Which quitted their places pro-
a rape a few months ago, at Worship-street testieg, anti left the Hall.
Police Oflice where a long examination took on passing
Dupont de IlEure saluted the Members of the right aide
in front of them.
place,. and he wits sent down to Buckingham- MM. Sebastiani and Michin were the only Members of the
shire ott the charge. The Grand 'Jury threw left side who did not withdraw ; those of the centre continued in
their
places.
out the bill for the capital offence, and Annul
The President--The order of the day is the continuance of
one for a misdemeanour. The trial lasted six the debate on the project of law relative to the grant of extra.
hours, and he was acquitted. A great number of ordinary supplies for 10143, It is M. HumblotContes turn to
speak'
respectable farmers and others attended, and gavepM. Humblot Cont 6 (front his seat)--I renounce it.
him a most excellent character. The verdict of The President—Does M. Mechin wish to address the As.
acquittal was received with great satisfaction. senility ?
M. 'Medlin—No —[The Honourable Member then with.
MURDER Or NEEDLE AND HIS WlTE.—Josepa drew.l
Groker and Thomas Randal were tried on 'rues. 31.-Laisne de Villevesque also renounced his turn to address
day last at Aylesbury Assiies, for the murder of the Chamber.
The President
announced that before time opening of the
Edward Needle and his wife, keepers of the toll!' Sitting, M. Sappey (who was inscribed to oppose the ' project)
gate. The evidence (which has been fully before had informed him that an extinction of voice would not per-
the public) was conclutive, and the Jury found a mit Idol to address the Assembly.—(Bursts of laughter on the,
right aide.)
verdict of " Guilty"—Death,. du Thursday The closing of the discussion was then called for, which was
Morning these men undo went the awful sentence not °Maul.
of the law in front ofAylesbury gaol ; the M. 0 Martignae Rep ter of the Commission, was. =se- '
r coed or .
Y upon to address the Assembly. Ile reeapitulat•
concourse of spectaters was imtnettse ; the con• ed and combated all the objections made against time project of
VictS had previously acknowledged the justice of law, and anno tutted that the Commission persisted
.n weir
views for its adoption. The luminous speech of the Reporter
their sentence ; attd,their appearance. anti cop• freqUently excited movements of approbation. COAL-MARKET, Manor
thict subsequent to the knowledge of their The Reporter of time Commission having been heard, the Ships at Market. Ships sold
President read the first article AS follows (Ili Newcastle - 49
unable fate were penitent, nod as it should have „ , _ _ _
/too, Lventual treedits.to the amount of one hundred 30 Sunderland - 14
been, They seemed 'to die without a.squggic, thaliQttai ate opened to the Ministers on/own/deur/lot the U Scotch Coal • •

traonlinary and urgent expences which would be authorised in
1823, in the forms prescribed by Art. 152, of the law of the
25th of March, 1817, in addition to the credits voted for the ser-
vice of 1823."
An Amendment, observed the President, has been proposed
to his Article by M. Schastiani ; it consits in commencing the
said Article by the' words, " In case of war."
M. Sebastian' was called to the Tribune ; he refused to ad-
dress the Assembly.
M. the President—Since there is no opposition, I shall put
the Article to the vote.
It was accordingly put to the vote, and almost unanimously
adopted ; three Members on the left centre rose for its rejection.
The President read the the 2d Article
" There are appropriated to the liquidation of the said ex-
pences
Flatly, the supplementary resources of the budget of 1823,
amounting to 10,278,108 f. and the excess in receipt above the
expences of the budget of 1822, amounting to 62,658,801 f.
Secondly, a credit in rental, 5 per cent. consolidated, of
the sum of four millions of francs which the Minister of Fi-
nance is authorised to inscribe in the great book of the public
debt, with interest from the 22d of March, 1823."
The Commission has proposed an amendment, tending to
change the word amounting into estimated at.
Thu proposed substitution of words was approved, and the
article thus modified, adopted.
The President read the third article :
" Article 3.—An account shall be given in the Session of
1824, of the realization and appropriation of the whole or a
part of this credit in itentes, which cannot be disposed of other.
wise than by public negociationsi without concurrence, agreeably
to the forms prescribed for the transfer of )tenter effected by
the Treaty of the 9th of August, 1821.
This article was put to the vote and adopted.
The scrutiny on the whole law was then proceeded with.
The members of the left side and of the left centre, who had
not quitted the hall, refused to vote.
The following is the result of the scrutiny.—Number of
voters, 258. White balls, 239; black ditto, 19. The law was
declared adopted by the Chamber, and the Sitting adjourned
at four o'clock. _ .

The Order of the Day for to-morrow is the opening of the
discussion of the project of law relative to the recal of a per.
tion of the discharged military.

PARIS, MARCI/ s.—Yesterday morning, at
three o'clock, three or four individuals, who
were pressing on the Quai des Tuileries ap-
proached the wall, and called to one of the sen-
tinels on duty on the terrace. As soon as he
shewed.himself a pistol was fired at him; he dis-
charged his musket, but did not hit one of the
assailants. Thei guard of the chateau, and the
posts placed at each end of the Quay tool• up
arms. Patroles paraded the Quay, but did not
find any person.

New's from Madrid of the 24th ult. arrived
yesterday. The opinion of the Council of State
relative to the departure of the King was, that
the departure would be premature. The resig-
nation of the Minister of the Interior, Gasco,
has been accepted. The King 'charged the
Council to present candidates to him to form a
Ministry. The Council at first refused, but the
King having insisted, the selection of new Mini-
sters was expected every moment.
TOULOUSE, FEB. 28.—The speedy arrival of
the Duke of Angoulame has been announced.
M. de .Bray is appointed Central Receiver of
the Army of the Pyrenees. Twenty millions
is to be the amount of the first supply.
The day before yesterday uniform coats were
served out to a detachment of the Army of the
Faith.

BAYONNE, Fr.a. U.—Lord Fitzroy Somerset
is arrived in our town from Madrid, on his way
to Paris. It appears that the Cabinet of Madrid
had declined all foreign mediation, at least, in
What relates to modification in their constitution.
Perhaps the sacrifices which England required
were too painful.. Besides, it is known that the
Spanish. Revolutionists were much displeased et
the Speech of King George to the British Par-
liament. Hence, of all the Journals of the fac-
tion, the Expectador is the only one that published
it ; they expected an armed intervention on the
part of England.
Letters from Madrid announce that 800 militia
of Madrid and of the Province, have demanded
their retreat. from the
,service.—lf we may credit
more recent letters, Abisbal has been beaten by
Bessieres.