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towards the Eight Rev. Prelate, and he concluded by
laying the petition on the table.
The Bishop of LONDON only intended to address a
few words to their Lordships, in reply to the statement
of the Noble Lord. Ile believed he should be able to
show that, in the course he had pursued, he had not
been ectuated by any disrespect to that branch of the
United Church whose labours were confined to Ireland.
In the first place, he begged to thank the Noble Earl
for the way in which he had introduced the subject to
their Lordships, except so far as his remarks led him to
think that he had not done justice to the church of his
country ; because no one was more willing to do justice
to the claims of that Church than be was—no parir
genic which he could pronounce would be too high
with respect to the past conduct sa• the,
Protestant clergy of Ireland for many years peg,
arana
particularly during the last few months.—(Hear, he.)
The regulation to which the petition referred bad not
been adopted by him during the last few months, or the
last few years, but was adopted 0:3 years ago, and this
was the first time complaint had been made of it. When
i
he was Bishop of Chester, he found the influx of I
clergymen into his diocese extremely great, and he dri
is-
couraged it on more grounds than one—particularly oa
two grounds—which still existed in his mind ; and they
were these: he did not think that young men educate_
for the service of the Church in Ireland. should take iti3
,7
u
early opportunity of quitting that Church, esPeei,a €
under the difficulties that surrounded it at that
tf
and coming over to England for the purpose o
taming better pay, and less irksome duty. Looking too
et,
the state of education in Trinity College at that time
and its improved state deserved the approbation ofenti;
Noble Friend, he considered that he Was
Perfatice
warranted in the course he had adopted. The rot
of taking their degrees in Ireland and immedie e
coming over to England he thought extremely hard tirriesh
the young men educated at great expense at th
Enfrota
universities, and that they should be misphieed
curacies and those occupations in the Church for v'fli_ll-
- had been educated, and prevented frorn obtaining
ordination by the immigration of large numbers of
clergymen, therefore he thought right to discourage
the practice ; but the rule wee at no
timeewere
gidly adhered to, because he thought Wl' not c
many reasons why Irish clergymen sbonld ot
as
over here, and at that moment there were had
many Irish clergymen licensed as those
refused to license. As this rule had been in
years, and had, moreover, been published the rkable
nised organs of the Church, it was somewhat renaarte e
that it never had elicited any remonstrance fro
_h..,
the
clergy in his diocese ; but if his Noble Friend such
Primate of Ireland had stated that be thought
hould
rule was inconsistent with the relations Which ?t)
wil°raforceecdo2g3.
subsist between the two Churches, and between the tee;
countries, he should have bowed to the wish of his .ti„ner
but nothing of the kind had occurred, yet the peti3i,hop
stated on his own authority that he (the intole-
of London) had been guilty of an - aliens
rable assumption of authority. His offen:teteino that
consisting in preventing young men from
sphere of labour for which they had been aPe.e the
ordained. The petitioner should have brough'
matter before the heads of the Irish church, rather than
by a petition to their Lordships, which had not b_hean"
read, but which contained much stronger langusge of
that used by his Noble Friend. He (the 13ithellaa
London) might have acted injudiciously, hut, aS This
said, he had adopted the rule as a stringent one.h
ling
he thought was sufficient to exonerate him fro 111 •
east any disrespect upon the Irish church.
last year or two he had conferred two or three of the
r‘rii:
valuable livings in his diocese on Irish clergymen' ye,
Deli 0
of the most valuable livings in connexion with St. 13ut
had been conferred by him on an Irish clergYinah* ecese
Dr. Thorpe, by his conduct, had not rendered it.a
sary for him (the Bishop of London) to show hineralet__
special obligation. When Dr. Thorpe's curate came,
With
most
him, he stated his objections, but he, at the sem
.t_111:s.
intimated that as Dr. Thorpe was about to
country, he might perform his dnties, and let the matter
rest until he returned ; but Dr. Thorpe, therf.r.s.
wrote him a letter, accusing him of an " intolerabisuab..'
sill:option of power," and refused to consent ;
that
the
sequently, he (the Bishop of London) found that
the 10
curate was a fit person to be licensed, and he offs red
license him, but he thanked him for his offer,
declined, and since that time ho had licensed mail,
clergymen, and he should continue to do so. He, hsstghiele
to thank their Lordships for the attention witm
lealeatter
they had listened to his explanation. clergyost
The Earl of CLANCARTY said that the Irish
were men of the highest character and the wales
superior intellectual attainments. Attached el. be he
to the union between the two countries,
have
regretted that such a distinction should t
been made. There had been a great deal of talk about
repeal, but he assured their Lordships there was nethinefe
which would add more strength to that cry than sit.,
unhappy distinctions. Englishmen and Scotchmell
were advanced to a high situation in Ireland, but they
could not instance tkat the converse of fact was true'
He therefore begged to ive his suort to the prayer in
thepetition which his give his support to the prayer ill
the petition which his Noble Fiend had omitted to
state.
Lord MOUNTCASHEL said that if the whole bench
of Right Rev. Prelates adopted the same rule, they
would not have any Irish officiating clergymen in the
whole of England.
Lord CAMPBELL gave notice that he would more,
that the House go into Committee, on the Lunatic Asyluses
Bill, on Friday next, pro forma.
POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord MONTEAGLE begged to give notice that he
would ask a question of her Majesty's Government when
the report on the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill was brought
up, as to how far it was intended that the receipt of re-
lief under the Bill should disqualify a voter.
LANDED PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL.
The order of the day for receiving the report on the
above Bill having been read,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE proceeded to state
(but in a very indistinct tone) the substance of various
amendments which it was proposed to introduce into the
Bill. One was with the view of extending the power of
the Commissioners in granting loans under the Bill for
such works as might be considered necessary and es-
sential to be executed.
After a few words from Lord MONTEAGLE,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, with reference d
to an amendment proposed by the Noble Duke opposit_
on the subject of the payment for labour by wages an
not by land, he had been anxious to frame a clause as
much as possible to meet the views of the Noble Duke.
But from what he heard it appeared that it would be
impossible to carry the principle into effect in every in-
terms of the amendments yby which he hoped to meet the
stance. The Noble arquis then briefl stated the
suggestion made.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said the object whit tt
he had in proposing the clause would be obtained under
the Bill, that object having been to produce a general
alteration throughout the country by means of an enact-
meet of that description. His opinion was that a great
part of the evil which at present existed had been
caused by the payment for labour being made by por-
tions of land instead of in money. If the present evil
had not been occasioned by that practice it had been in-
creased by it, and he was certain that the evil had been
uniformly aggravated by it. But, great as the evil Wss'
it had occurred on a variety of occasions within the lass
fifty years, and it had always been remedied and re-
moved ley the interference of the Government. The pre-
sent evil was greater at this moment in Ireland than 'll
any part of the world, and it was principally ou th°s°
veryer grounds that the Government wPasobliged to ieter-
favaail to
himself alleviate
o f t the present W hatnaheeehsoardewiinshwedhieton doinwoars
to
der
to apply a remedy to the existing evil, Parlia,me in had
offered to the landed proprietors and occupiers n that
country the means of distributing large capitals; lie
wished, he repeated, to avail himself of that o
of putting an end practices •
to which, in his opinion, werf
so fatal to the prosperity of that country. He was much
pportuuitY
obliged to his Noble Friend for the manner in which
proposed to adopt words in the Bill to meet his wishes;
but he believed, when they came to examine the ar:
proposed by that clause, they would fina
rangenionts
that it would not attain all the objects he had vie''
until the labourers were paid iiilreland as they were in
every other country in the world, by daily wages, roses?
tn
of by land, the mode in which they were now paid. suc,uh_
a system was not practised in any other country in
.s
world except in Ireland, and that was the reason that
suffered ten times more now than ever was suffered by
any other country.—(Hear.)
The Marquis of WESTMEATII said there could be
no doubt that the mismanagement of land in Ireland
had done much to bring that country into its present
condition. One way to put an end to the conacri sys-
tem would be to make the rents not recoverable by law.
The amendment, with one or two others, was then
agreed to, end the report was received.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE laid on the table the
annual report of the Poor-law Commissioners.
The House adjourned at Ha.ll.past Eight.

MARKET NEWS.-(THIS DA

CORN EXCHANGE—WEDNESDA Y•
The arrivals of English Wheat for our market, this week,
coastwise as well as by land carriage and sample, have been
on a very limited scale ; and the show of that grain here, to
day, was small. _Notwithstanding the fineness of the weather,
the demand for all descriptions of Wheat of home produce
was again brisk, at a further improvement ill value of from
Is to 2s per quarter. The best Essex white sold at 1103 tii°
11.2 s per quarter. Foreign Wheat—the quantity of which 0 _
oiler was small—moved off freely, at is per quarter,Eo.or:
money. The Barley trade was firm, at fully Monday ~11°
provement in value. In Malt, comparatively little was dtty!.
yet prices were well supported. Oats commanded area 7
sale, and the quotations had an upward tendency. 11"13
Yeas, Indian Corn, and Flour were quite as dear.
ARRIVALS. Fleur.
y ISO qrs.
Barle. I Oate
20 ere. 11,690
SO 121,440

English
Erish. . .
Voreign

Wheat.
1,140 qrs.

6,990

13,100
Malt, 1,190 Gm
WHITECHAPEL.
We had a fair average supply of meat on sale this morning.
Generally speaking, the demand was steady, and, in 801
instances, the quotations had an improved tendency. 13,",/:
from 3s 2d to 45 ; Mutton, 4s to 5s ; Lamb, 5s 6,1 `",
6s 4d ; Veal, 4s 4d to 55 4d ; and Pork, 4e to 53 2d per
81Us by the carcase.

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A WEALTHY PAurEg.—On the 19th instant a la:
bouriug man, named John Jarmy, and his wife, were admitteu
as in-door paupers at the Wan ford Union-house at ShiPt:
meadow, and, as is customary, they were taken to sePiatr.it;
apartments to exchange their own clothing for that "..,,-9
union, attended by the usual officials. The matron, s° were
present with the woman, observing that her pockets werd,
very heavy, asked what they contained, to which she rePlie ~
" only a few rags ;" but this not satisfying Mrs. Hammon°,
she examined the contents, and found ,sewed up in differehb
parcels, 132/. ,1., consisting of 111 sovereigns,
bank bo,ok
~.
mainder in silver; there were also three savings'
in which were acknowledged deposits in the Norwich SimVf
a total o
ings' Bank to the amount of 160/. ; making
292/. 45.; there were found also nine silYer tea-elia°lls' 5
tab:a-spoon, and a pair of sugar tongs.—lpswich Express.
and the re;