The Sun.
London, England, 1812-03-04 00:00:00

iurea by the Orders in -Council, there were 'hat-
meets before the Hoete which distmetiv disproved
that assertion. It . was obvious from those docu-
ments, that after the Orders in Council the trade of
this conntry rose prOgressively. It was true, that
in the latter end of 1810 and 1811, our trade de-
clieed a little, and we were brought hick to the
state in which we were in 1803, at the beginniAg of
the war. Now, after all the attempts of the enemy to
destroy our trade, after six years experience of the
unorecedented system, which he had adopted to ruin
us, it was satisfactory to know that we had been so far
able to resist his efforts, that we were now in the
same stale that we were in 1804. It could not
surety then be said that we were ruined. The most
sangeine man, if he had been told the plan of the
enemy, and the means he had to enforce it, would
not have ventured to hope that, at the end of s'x
year,, our trade would be equal to what it was at
the beginning of the war. With regard to the de-
crease of our trade in 1811, he begged to observe,
_that after such a year of extraordinary commercial
prosperity it was natural to exped some stagna-
tion ; but there were other causes which had a
eteeng operation in 1811. In that year our losses
in the Bah ic, by seizure and confiscation, were very
great ; they were, in fad, greater even than the
whole of our exports in a year of peace. But it
was foebe recollected that the Orders in Council had
nothing to do with these losses, they did not even
operate in that patt- of Europe where these losses
took place.—[We are under the necessity of giving
an abridged account of the remainder of the Chan-
cellor of he Exchequer's speech—we will, however,
if possible, give it mare in detail to-morrow.]
Adverting to the objections which had been so
forcibly, made by the Honourable Mover to the
clause in the licenses, stating that notwithstanding
all other documents on board the vessel to which
the license was granted, she was bound to the port
named in the license, he observed, that this clause
was found cut and dried by the present Administra-
tion, and read a minute from the Treasury of the
()cession on which it was framed, signed by Lord
Auckland, Lord Grenville, Laid H. Petty, Lord
Temple, and Mr. Corry. Nothing indeed could be
clearer than that the license excluded much of the
perjury which, until the time of their being issued,
had existed. As to the Committee of Inquiry to
agree 10 it, would be to say to the Manufacturers--
" We ate sensible of your distresses, we pity you,
and to shew our sympathy, we will put a total stop
to the manufactures of the country." He trusted
the House 'would not believe that the continuance of
those measures which the war had rendered neces-
sary, had greatly injured the British revenue—alone.
On the contrary, it would be found that the French
Customs had materially suffered. It appeared that
'in 1803• the receipt of Customs in France was
27,023,102 I:vres; in 1804, 41,485,000 Jivres ; in
1805, 52,725,000 livres; in 1806, 51,727,000
livres; in 1807, 60,483,000 livres. That was the
year in which the British Orders in Council were
promulgated, and the consequence was, that in
1808, the French Customs fell to 18,523,000 lives.
In 1809, they ,fell still further, to 11,54,000
lines. It was tioe, that the customs formed but a
small part of the French revenue, bet that revenue
had suffered internally as much as externally. The
Hon. Gentleman had stated that Buonaearte enter-
tained an idea half philosophic and half, mad, but
inimical to trade.. Certainly he was an enemy to
British trade. Buonaparte thought that France
could better spare her trade than Britain could, and
in pursuit of that universal dominion to which
Great Britain had hitherto proved the greatest bar-
rier, he was willing to annihilate the trade of
France,erovided be could also annihilate the trade of
Great Britain. It would be uncandid, however,
were he not to observe that in 1810 the customs of
France had risen to 49,068,000 livres. This was
einefiy owing to the accidental confiscation
of British property, and the incorporation in the
French Empire of Genoa, Leghorn, and other
parts of Italy. The embarrassment under which
the Orders in Council had placed France, were
sufficiently' etanilested in the Address of the Sena
lift Buonaparte, in which they confessed that they
were excluded from the means of completing the
arst-nala of the Empire but by inland navigation,
and expressed a hope that four or five years would
enable that object to be attained. Thus it appear-
ed, that whatever effects were produced on our-
selves by the Orders in Council, the inconveniences
occasioned by them to the enemy were consider-
able. It had been contended that the Berlin
and Milan Decrees had been completely aban-
dened. This he positively denied. There had
been no public Proclamation to that effeet. It had
r. ly been stated that they would cease to ope-
rate, provided Great Britain gave up her Orders
In Council, or America consented to defend her
rights, and to take care that her ships should be
no longer denationalized. The argument that
these Decrees were merely of a municipal or
commercial nature was very fallacious. They were
issued in time of weir, with a hostile intent, and
hostile effea.
Mr. WILBERFORCE and Mr. BARING explained.
Mr. WHITBREAD declared that the speech of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer was calculated merely
to mislead the House. He warmly supported the
motion. Whether considered with respect to their
dignity or their policy, or both, the House ought to
agree to the appointment of a Committee. At
least, he trusted that they would come to`a menac-
ing, if not to a decisive vote of the yestion.
Mr. HERBERT argued in support of the motion.
Lord L. GOWER stated, that he had had for some
time in his hands a Petition against the Orders in
Council, to the Prince Regent, from the Stafford-
soire eotterics, but that having declined to lay it
before the Secretary of State, he had waited in
vain fer three weeks to. present it to the Prince
Regent in person. He should vote for the Com-
tuittee.
Lord MILTON declared that he was precisely in
theeaere situation as the Lord.
Mr. Beoueneer made a short but animated reply,
after which the House divided.
For the Motion . 141
Against it - 2t6
Majority . -72
Adjourned this morning at Half-past. Five o'clock.