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'sake ►the Ole Was ";eSta-
blisinal of the necessity of soiree Legislative inter-
ference -; bet the consideration of the manner
which that 'interference still remained, and on
that point it beCame a serious question whether
they were sufficiently informed to decide. The
first- onestion was, the regulation of the price at
which the hnportation of Corn may by- admissible ?
That..vieis. fixed by ahe Bill -at- - .Upon this
peoijahieht po'nt,. it was.first niost material to
tiodder, Whether tl,ey were suffiCiently informed
ro.fiz it at that' yrice ? Thte evident* adduced fur-
. nished no clear or possible data for such an enact-
ment. Much -contrariety of sentiment prevailed
4anong the witnesses as to that point.
tuntiop of this proposition, Iris Lordship referred
senneWhat in detail to the evidence adduced. On
the question of the price at ithich,rbe Corn rowels
eotild'offord th.ceadenissioit-01.-.7importa-iionse moth
iliffereOce of 4pini.on.prevailed, INlre Custance
thought•ih-could-not be less than 965.,
front 90s. to 100 s. Art her witness calculated it
-ewee • - • -
P7:1_,.; antotlte e'thotight it should. be from 87s.
to',looste- :11.1k.: Bennet thought 965., Mr. Turnbull,
andeSonie- ethers at 84s. and at 80s.—
A ;er'eat pr'oprotion of theWitnesSes were for hav-
ing the price' Helier than:B.os. Another class of
the witnesses expressed their opinions that 'the
exPences of agriculture Were infinitely higrili:7r.
than Huey ought to he. Ile' nicant not to impute.
th(, least improper motives, but most of these wit-
-th.s ies li-ere persOns whose interests were more or
less implicated; this certainly was no reflection
up“;rl the parties, but the con iderefion was gene-
rairy attended to in the estimation or evidence
givca ; but even among these a great ditfereoce of
opinion prevailed as the price which would be
0 sUf!icietit piotection.to. the former. There were
some. however,. particularly amons those exa-
mined be the House of Commons, ‘vho state, that
4-much less price than SOs. would be a sufficient
protection to the farmer. Some of these were re-
ferred to by his Lordship, and in whose state-
ments also unfelt contrariety of opinion prevailed.
Ile was of opinion that when Wheat was at I SI.
tw 201. a load, it would he sufficient. 'Another,
the price of 72s should be sufficient protection,
and one thought, .and which he admitted; on his
farther exstnioatione that even 645. wOuhl soffi-
ciently remunerate the fanner. Others admitted
that 755. B.ls. or limn 72s to 755. would be suf-
ficient tor-the purpose. With such a_specilica-
,t.ion of . evidence before the House, upon what
pround, or principle, could the 110tise proceed to
80s.. as the price ? But in that:view, if
they had not sufficient ground for legislating, on
the sobject with respect to England, how much
stronger were not the objections, when applied to
freland ? ft
_was obsert able the far greater part
of the Petitions in support of the proposed mea-
sure came front that country. lie would first al-
lude to a particular fact, namely, that before their
Lordship's Committee there was not a tittle of
evidence, as to the rate•at which Corn could be
grown in Ireland. Before the Commons there
was sonic' evidence upon' the point, but to.differ-
eta etiect lit•:e the rest ; hilt its general result was,
that a much less price was sufficient to protect
t:he Irish fanners, than for those in this country.
Zut they titre aware from other sources .of infor-
mation that Coro could be grown there at a less
rate than had been stated.. As far as respected
li'd.tntl, therefore there was no proof that the Inca-
s Are was accessary. The effect of it must be to
give a decided advantage to the Irish Corn Grower,
and eventually to raise the rents of the La»tl-
owner in that Country, at the exnence of the
people of England. In this view also, the mea-
sawe mnst he totally inefficient, as to the protec-
tion of the English Farmer. • As Ireland, in con-
shonence attic large remittances she is obliged to
make to this country, will send in vast quantities
of Corn, aad ondersell the Euglish Fanner at his
o‘vienhirkets. considerations were all ad •
ditionel colts for further enquiry, and these it»-
portant facts oteeht to be clearly ascertained, be-
fore they ventured to pass such a Bill as that now
before the House. The circumstances Of the im-
portation of C. 0.0 from various parts of the Con-
tinent of late years, he next advet red to, and front
the view he took of these, Argued that enquiry was
the more necessary. In this part of the subject
lie rCferred principally to the evidence of Mr.
Sainaul Scott anti of Mr. Barrett, and with a view
to the argument urged in favour of the meaultre
trout .the magnitude of recent importations, he
'contended, that tut fair decisive conclusions could
be drawn, as these proceeded from the extyn-
sive speculations that were made in the ar-
ticle, in the expectation of the meteitire now
before the House. These Opinions may he all
false or erroneous ; but they were such as sliewed
'the necessity of enquiry before they proceeded to
the adoption of a measure upon which the opi-
nions of the people of England were so strongly
expressed. A view of the present internal and
external circumstances of the country would also.
chew the necessity of ftwther enquiry. Admittiug
even, for the sake of argument, that SOs. was the
right price, yet the difficulties of ascertaining that
price were:considerable ; it was an ackhOwledg'ed
fact, that the averages were taken in such a way
as to lead to a most ernineous result. The 12,
maritime districts, which for these were put toge-
ther, by which, means. the sandiest district in
Wales, where not 100 quarters were imported,
contributed as much to the estimating the ave-
rages as the city of London with it§ immense po-
The difference bet Ween the average
and the real prices %vete in fact considerable, and
this part of the subject: too, contributed to skew
the necessity of investigation. Another objec-
tion against fixing the price at SOs. may be looked
for in the existing state of the circulation, and
lie helievt(l a NOble Friend of his (we imagine
the Earl of Lamlerdele) would hardly coutend,
that sitCh was not tutu important consideration with
reference to what was the difference of calculated
value between the former currency of titeconntry,
the returit of which was to he so much desired,
and, the present niediffin of paper; and in this
view the Noble Earl made some brief calculations
as tO the prices of gold at differ:2ot periods.—
There were, however, some additional iocitements,
and those of • more immediate interest,: which
called for serions, investigation. He. meant the
alleged calculation, that the price of 80s. would
insure a permanent, price to bread of I (id. for the
quartern loaf. This haul been controverted by

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hers eniet-taining tliffe'ren't s'elAlthent.
errors In the mode of taking the assize Of bread',
which loudly called for tegulatiOn, constituted ad-
ditional:grounds :for enquiry. He Shinild -urge
this proceeding without the least delay, because
it may lead to certain specific regulations, tending
to efreet a reduction in the price of bread to the
people of this country ; a circumstance_ which
would materially tend to 'allay that spirit of dis-
content which !lbw so Unfortunately prevailed.
Above all others the question was most important
to those concerned or interested in the agricak
ture girgland; as it involved the consideratiOn
whether or not 80 shillings was to ,be regarded
as a species of standard price ? for if Corn could
not be imported at. less than .80 shillings, and
importation to take. place every year, then that
price must be paid 'for it. If that price were to
remain, no 'country in Europe could afford to
take it of the English farmer at that price, and
this serious consideration called for chase enquiry,
before the 'price of 80s. should, be determined
upon. The landholders, and more especially the
labouring poor, who depended upon them, were
more interested in the investigation he proposed,
than perhaps any other set of men. In many.
parts of the country, these were now in circum-
stances of much distress. There was no neces-
sity whatever for preeipi!ating the measure. now
before the House. The imptirtation
sent ts,•holly suspended, and u:oald he so for some
time longer, and they had ample time for cosi-
deration and enquiry, ere they should he called
npon to tinsk.e such a considerable' sacrifice as that
involVed y the Bill. SOme general advansageous
arrangement may arise Out of the enviry, Peel
the condition of every class_ of people in the
country-MaY be greatly ameliorated, in which
trnste,ftlic '''iovernnicut would aiftird the 6:ample
in economising- and reducing the establishments
anti expenditures in every tvav; that may he found
practicable ; and he donined not' their Lordships
would do their 'Outies in cowl-11)11ring to the ef-
feetnation of such measures. But ho repeated,
the enquiry vvhs most important for the' aarktd-
tn.! al class ; their interests shOuld he properly lin-
derstowl, and the pledges made. to then] should
he redeemed, and this could in no way b" done,
so well as by an effectual enquiry. But the inte-
rests of all, commercial or landed, were more or
less essentially concerned, for no measure which
was prejudicial to the one could he beneficial to
the other.- Welt danger may arise from -pteciptation, but hone. could result from deliberate in-
vestigation, and the gdod sense of the people of
England was always such that they uniformly'tle-
cidetl ,in favour of the good cause, when it was
fairly and satisfactorily laid before them. Upon
the WhOle,• he would strenuously recommend and
solemnly adjure their Lordships to decide for the.
further investigation which was called for by the
interest of all, but most especially by those of the
a'grictiltarists; and the reSlirt, lie felt confident;
would tend more than any thing else to allay, and
'finally to obviate that spirit •of discOntent which
unfortunately prevailed; am4"wltiels had:So dis-
gracefully manifested itself ; and Would conclude,
by moving that their Lordships, previous to a de-
cision upon the Corn Bill, would go
.into an ea,
dairy into the subject at- the bar of the liouse.
Earl of DERBY, without going into the Ties-
tion of the Petitions, must der;iare-t4tst he feit tije_
subject to be el titled to the utmost consideration-
of the House ; they should pause and give time_
for investigating it in all its bearings'. He would
therefore give his cordial assent to his 'Noble
Friend's !notion, to whom the House and the
country ought to feel doubly obliged; as besides
affording full opportunity for discussiou, it would
enable many noble persons to retract their
II ates Opinions upon the subject.
Earl of FIARDWICKE considered the enquiry:
that bad taken place on the subject of Corn, to
be as perfect as any enquiry could be. 1 since
was a'country producing alwaYS More Corn than
!.,
she Could consume, and 'therefore we could al-
ways procure a snpply, either directly from her,
or by the way 'of Germany. and Holland. The
greatest pains had been- taken by the Committee
(cf. Inquiry, of which he had been the Chair:llan,
and he himself had made eVery possible effort to
procure intelligence on the important subject.---..
In fact, the Lommittee had gone as fully itittklitt
inquiry as any Committee that ever sat.
The Earl of -LIMERICK spoke its favimr of Irish
Agricul"ture. Ile contended that the olject of
the Noble Lord was to keep the Irish landholder
from deriving any advantage front the expOrt of
Corn to England—(llls Lordship was called to'
order.) •
Earl GREY in explanation, said that hid opi-
nion Was, that the Irish agriculturist would be
able to mulct-se)! the English farmer, and 'there-
fore the Bill would be insufficient. It was copse-
seTiently right to enquire whethersuch would be
the effect or not, before the -House proceeded
with it.

• The Earl of LIMERICK replied, that the vast
importation of Corn froth tlw Netherlands of late
had almost•been the ruin of Ireland. The popu-
lation-i7f-Irehind now exceeded six millions, two-.
thii7isrof: whom were engaged in agriculture._
These four millions, now unable to continue their
former pursuits, petitioned for. encouragetneiA ;
they only wished to be enabled to export Corn
frthn Ireland, and to return the manufactures of
this country: ' The benefit that they would give
was therefore as great as that which they would
receive.
Earl SPENCER was anxious to• state his reasons
,for giving his vote for the ruotion. It was the
;duty or the House to give due 'consideration to the,
interests of all classes, and the on!v question was;
.whethernrotection was to be afforded with one's
eyes shut or open ? His Lordship entered upon
a review of the evidence, and contended that many
things bad Occurred since last year, which placed
the subject in a new light ; and conidering the.
situation in which the country was now placed, a
.cothplete inquiry was equally as important as-ne-
,cessary, Every body knew that the minds of men
wyre mine apt to be inflamed On this. than on any
other question, 'and' without the advantage of the
fullest consideration, its merits could not be as.; certained.: Ile trusted, however, that the House
Ironicl proceed with Calmness in its' investigations,
. The Earl of HARDwicKE explained.
Lord ST. Jontv said if the motion had been
made earlier in the Session it should have had his

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vote- -Frbiir Iliei-,ittinclon in Winch we tore r.oW swirat Cal tat coned be applies! to tilt,: “. 1 mit.ehly
plmiced-, it was impossible that :my good could re. j Whether it would not he expeatied les'."; i'r .„e:s?
stilt from delay. . ~. i. . • cut agrimiltrire than Op other hi ranch( O.mi.'ill'utiti-evhiee
Lord litiutSt.F.Y felt greArpleasore in voting for He dust insi-ft that there was nothinir
the inlkliry. .
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• IriSeolint Si DNiOU'i*;d i'iiliJi there r(itild be no Floile -ill IL.lslitiOw .erii • liei;-lv •• ihe ll'''. c, doubt whatever that time litestion oils, of .all : profc§se(l to Protect the farniel-infi St)''' ".•:oaf
others, that which Most affeeted
.the great iinte- i' rid as the iirotecting price ; yet in the ;te-as'"wtee
.rests of society at Lirge. He thought that the i not only wits there great variety et 011i"k"'n.jetothe
proposition of the NOble Earl for an iinpirey. •I price; but the price, whatever it was; reste`,rip,ito
bright norto be agreed to minder the present cir:. j hen! State charges. It would be much wisL
fin
lip
conistanceS. It :was not possible to mention airy legislate at all on this subject,' for to win%
side,
subject with 'respect to which their Lordshipi alternative would they be driven ?. 0" On, (014
were in possession of so ranch iiiforniatitin, not . supposing the Bill to- raise the price of Corrao!
inersly fur a short time 'past, but &tiring- the ! unless such were itg intention and effect hel .th.c,
whore of. the last twenty VearS, or one On.. did not see what it meant), anti supPs"e.e'ioe which so many publications of great.. abilittehad , price of labour to rise also, 'would it not.oll,‘•Coo,.
made their appearance.. 00 ail occasions oti : to Elie serious depression of- apiculture, and taii
the question of Corn, from 1791 to laht&,. j sequeutly ot trade and commerce ? -But :er
1804, aim(' thence .down: to •the last- year.„ I price of bread should increase, am! the Priceorc',
time same principles, had been pursued, anti, the boor not increase with it, lie would ask their
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evidence of .the two. Committees or tin! .House ' ship's whether they were prepared to -e°'o,ces" of- Cominons, and the one of that House in the , plate so awful ae situation such circlPTl''' awe.
last year, had applied themselves with- the utmost would involve ? . Ile agreed most fully io thestete.
diligence and earnestness to acquire informnatione.: trine that the interests of all parties in rile therr
'rheir'Ltirdships :ttere.under no, pledge whatever j were intimately connected : the'. House;
.I►re.
to H. little any inquiry On file (itlesiiiin. There fQra_ought to 4e more careful how under ti.
jereoet
was eninplete
.ieeereketioe ,e.heeely- before the , tence of assisting one interest it might be "
_o:
House ou•the subject Of :he: immense importation . Injuring all. 1-1-a believed-in -his cvntsefenc
obi.
of corn from abroad. The 'Report of time Eeer•o_ the. landed interest would feel-the most seriOu. i, it • tive Government of France, stated that they Would advantage from this measore. As to Irelaii•icel
continue-to.export till the price rose to•49s. The • had been the object anti the aim of his P° S:1
farnier.miimil Corn grower imetilis comintry conid- riot ',! lifeto•confer all possible benefits ttpon th' retrtsi
stamolitgaiust zneit a competition. He hoped that ' lion, yet when he was asked to shut tip all th•lwEs •
the at tentnot of :hi:, and the other. House would . of the world against Grearlithaiii, except the Loral
he
.direeted tiethe :o•size of brew'. ; and long suite . of. lrelaod, he felt he had then a dray' t° Peroecf.
he -hi+l,l-i..lfltaml proposed a Coonnittee to eittinire• : as mi British subject. He objected
.to theorejilt° this stiltject. It did not appear, that ie,ete • imperfect and inaccurate statemeuts, 01 thealma was ,trey defect in th-e Report which had, not been : rages on which •it roust be utterly unsafe to '_loo,.
sopplietto It was totally Mitt/minded that the mate_ e a pertimanentoneasoreo and imis,isted that Ilse ruts,
ket price and.the imporldtioim price were emoinen- : het price bore no regular prOportiputo•
.s,trate. • Nothhez 55.,0,..-, into,: ~,osio.d than tO snit., ' and price. Nor should it be forgotten thL:vbec.•
pose that the eriee of the loaf tvio'llil- be 1641. if istote.of the_eurrency wmms so flitetiniting',.th!"-heace the importation price was 80 shilliogs.. Comisi'. was 89s. now, iV4s, at the time of the ev ' 7
dering• that n'o (mew information was to be ac- . giv'en, equivalent to 965. and aright be built, tom.
(piked. the Houseimad ooly to cNereise its best it the situation of things contempl;ited ''14,..:.--,
judgment as •to :he mode of affording this coati- Chancellor of the Exchequer should ever oee'.. es,
try thc ineans of. deiiviiiit its`. subsistence froun. Ile thought that there should have been solucit„a
its (... ,(iii. Iti),igl.t I?.e true tii,t.. the Arislt . amination as to
.the scats of the distilleries , for
farmer might un.del•scil• the_ l'loglisim grower. on how they would-be effected by this oleas"-°l-e'D of-.
sortie oecesions ;. ,bot. .r,7ts it to he
.enclutecr that they were an important and productive bl,'`.`,l:oote t•trix oistnictioo should•oe drawn -bet.Neen the• 'rcventme. He Concluded a long anti etnoac.l
the - +,14
ttvocorintrieS? The question-. waS.,...wikether_Are, speech by observing, that nothing had 52..•:•,0 of
.should have our supply from our •own -kingdom,' ,speech
to •type prosperity and repottit:,`;. tee.
•or- from those which might affmmrci it Or withhold: i this eouutry as the confidence of the Inas.' eircti.
it at their pleasure. %. The averages, etvlietifek'ini-, pcople.in the /minded interest, mid ime eo',l) 0:
perfect or not, did trot affeet.the general question. their Lordships to pause before they ga`oredil-
On the whole, be did liot eon.7.ei,;-e any • finther • istence to a nleasure, which 'might 'have tl' • coil'
infooonatioo necessary. He resp,CGted the Pell!' - fillcal:a of shakiog that, hitherto unsh;kgli •
boners, and appl6nded tile disposition -in both .1 hdenee—(Hear, bear !) 1 ri t t 1,4
Hl on "" to thrOw open their floOrs to all Petitions. : 'rime Earl of LtvErt-POOL begat; by. ttiti 441.1
lexo.- ,
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The people ought to thitik freely and speak freely; that he bad never, heard ,any question (I,.`ioesli•
and their voice. ought to .i)c listened to. trioz. . with more candour, temperance, rind fa 1 e;lt",
nuniber of Petitioos last year wits 69 against the than this,itmul been, both by the Noble j''it'i'Lt,o4,
13ill, awl 55 in favour of .it. Bert those of thin oracle time motion, and the .!,N;ioble: Baron
~-:,..1, 0.11-,
'year were entirely of a different tendency. They last spoken. The question; however, pull is'
did riot ask. for inftirmation or enqtfiry, but prayed now before tire Houmie- %leis, whether theY %,`.44.11'1
that no alteratiolf whmitever, might be !mule in the possession of soffieleut evidence to e`Jtt:ll.‘,l:'OS'ii
14. W. Therrionrit •it appeared that (he Home *discussion of the law that was this ila•Y PI el i';4l
51'0) 11(.1 110. t fall, into
.the views or--wishes of the l'e• to them fie I:,.,as..tinxious, in -this stz:s; wt.'s-
titioners, onless they stopped the Bili altogether. qucition„ not to be -supposed la Suppor! 1; ci0::-•
Ile fully concurred in the sentiments. nf the 1..,,;,-,b4,.. ~tire my titc srowati of O's affCtrtling react ,-•
Lail at the close of his speech. ?-;othing it ' class onty, and tha the agrieultu-ral • eh355:1( tO
so remote from his ideas- as to, sac.:rifice the was cottvince:l that. it was for the iiifete'cpreaLit
interestseot aay_oate, deseriptisin of ih,rsons 10 • whole of the, comnotnity.; time consumers 0J I,„(mr►
those of another. But
,he was certaio that the I and mote particulaily for the interest 0f ,lici:lo..lll,C'
ineasut c would tend
stiol'o-tghreoub:l7inlevlihtt'i'ttiettv'call' fun. •ti-it.,• "gtlit.(a)ti.ntil(lissotrtilelavieftititc•c‘h stlitltemzlidolt))eie adopted. th'tec,' jirj
could, therefore,
Earl had rcs s Iloat
motion. : The Ho+msefli'4(l nothing' to do hut to motion, there were many of them gil"ti11:: til4
consider the princip)e
101-• time Bill, mfod. proceed deserved the 'idlest discussion-, both ••,,11.11 ee°'
Upon' 'the, inforinat ion befor-e• thCI 11 . ' ' House, andb3l person s conversant in poli''',
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Loaf ~. . . . . . . ,
• l‘.l'N:G WaS, of lIIm opinion eirectly the re-• nobly; but Inc did not think thmit they %"1. coo"
verse of the INToble liisCollllf .- It wa6 the,generid • Jeers which could be 'esionined 'bef°re;e3ie,'l,l
oeinion, that the greatest mi ;chief would beikomr• ' inittce of.thet House. They were cloest-I,,`"ie.,o(''''.
by any legislatitie: interferenee. on time •imbieet of
,• which no evidence that conk! he e.NI)6ct'L„;IS ''''ir
Corn. The soboeet. was. Of the greatest ia:port- ' throw army lieht. When
ance to the:community, and therefore demnan (led ‘
tP.,:::.iz.illitete.t(ilo:.;.:t.ol3:iezii,rii,_
ttilimuesyeetm:isliiroteNtvleit..::il,";%l,lel;.s''eiltitio.ell9l:
the fullest consideration. . .
Lord 1.1%lour:•-e.imei cootended, that any (1.0;1 y in , measure.
the mensure would be +if 'tire eremitest 'injury to t ville) oppoS\e‘Cibt''llile matiillj'olNiri(l),boleenri3l.Htimilliitlll(elll)".).'"'s•eite4l'":"!\
Ire!a nd, where the farmers tvould abstain fm.6, ! yeimr, he .stated, ;- - 0 • his stroOges,tiol•e r°
sowing- wheat, till they littew what 'would be the' • mews, that it \ea:: 3of rite tottilost- imP"rt,4„,estil
protection they were to expect. His Lordship j the interests of the comintml-vhe, tuulc:altddifit''
•tv •
repeated tine arguments so often urged respectitor I should be soon decided. He also,agre'd' 1.101.•'-:
the advantage to he derived by this comm. •"fron--: I time, that it,'was of '
the circulatftin of her manufactures in IrehtYno, I should he soon decided, •bethe• could runt • sac.)
The Emir! Of LAnnEnnAer, iie a speeeto(,l- con_ /1 before the•month of am,any in this Yae.3,r' 5•,i11.:
siderible length, contended, that the tpiestion evils 1 au attendance of Mteimnmeibuetri.:noasit Nkilli:arit11::::::::Itil.
Ida nature that ought to be dealt within the most I cient weight to a decision upon such 11 1 l'''.
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temperate manner. It deserved the utost con. I intereots. As to. the clamour NVitholl` il 0 til-.
plate ex•.ilitiit,iitione Ile was convinced that •no.' I considered that it should have no
price could remunerate the farmer. that was under decision, either in I ' • rioarniw•-••; ,iorsv•
iastening 01• -s him • • it
80s. Foreign Corn•had too long been let in, to speedy decision., however, appetite( " - "'lf'
„t •t 1 ~,‘.
the injury of the farmers both of England and! I important, in order that those connect c
ieg' Ireland.' It was not necessary to exannue farther 1 the agricultural interest should know tilers
,t.s 1116ji
evidence; tl.le agriculture of tif e British dominions I grounds they now stand. .Thc land-otvu- .Coo.;e ought to be protected to. the exclusion Of foreign_ who, as he believed, must lower their rests'r tbe.oe
ers. 'rime 495.. of France was more than equal •to not jodge until thi§ question was do :idol,
e.,.tiao- e the 80s: of •Eoglmind. ' ile contended that the evi- were to lower them or in what prt.??:c).;,, ciiil:.--i
•ctreet ° it. ,
deuce-,f tkir“- • year, with whteit the 1-10,..cvit,s Neither the value. orliormi or hilnittr, of ' ,til tit `s
satisfied, teas folly sufficient, and therefore there ' connected with the could •be tiNiedytanriooneeLrli
was no
On the gAirlomoulleu,lll"e'l-inaetveevreig. ta.ovretahveoltieelili4ydttilif itiiiltemre?silmil-: if vie .3
i.tkoneiewiisvilaietethoenr ilthsts:tanssltt'ilbt
jc.ei(i:itteottiilool.tr.7:
.ry
catviii
tisfuctioivtivy) he should give it that niolit for not (trots bto delay for' the purpose of ee.1,1-(ll,lll.o.drai tij,e.
~,
going into the inquiry. • •
• 1 those poisits mentioned by• the Nyu.ici,,- to '°ll)Lir.
The Earl of I).,..tatxerr denied that the measure-j euquiry.might Im.tst for ten yearsLlteis•allY.,C°oar
would'raise the loaf to-16d. „it was essential that
this point should be set arrest. As fill then' contradictory evidence, that teas "` )f. elle of..
dairy would
_not' in -his opinion -• I ' 'n
11
,_ expected
„from tine great difference :) froin tee;
nape( e the pro- stances tinder wbich the witnesses, cowl 7,0,,c0m. '.,
gross of the measure, he should vote for the niO- ' tevent counties, had to speak of In
ri . aisie, act'
. • the nial., r 000tlf.
lion.
m •ea. o ow ot their farms. lie thought that the k . `va
t,
L tioC
Lord GRENVILLE' began by ad • 'to the danger of le •i
food. If the House, howe',!(:),C.l:::ePrit'ilenll!osftirfoillralgialyti - a'nslialittse}:essteti:lgetoor
were determined for one year oidy, but for a reasonapie•., vie.
;lotto-,
peer tu
to enter this (lark and •.Sli )eI•V path Inc wOuld • years. P3:s to importations from the xOe- • r
i'6l. coasideration:
call upon them first to natiscP-Ii 1 : ' e. ,ca
o• ,s P.
front leirislating oil t . way was to 'lb+ ' (ret • a I• - ' from co I jell '-' ,
Itiliceottll-ilidollee caoiitonitlnicu:.ii ic.ti,yo7,aapvecsi.to,:g3,,. 1111
sam 0 , to its to importations .en ,ei ~cf,
5...
not yet broke in upon AliikiSte:::i.Sns,:ohtilslitt:ylic:hhicand I
p
exceedingly for the sdmilkfiensoc(fl. gi,ol',
it)i:led lights iiint so(.`i‘e'l,l.liie ht i tnitle.etslS3 One
ce.ierS...till?')tj...,CC(C)Lttf lal:'o°glhiirtiec.t.ialilleinle:e:(l)eanl:titilliiyee, 1 - eialsol:intenliaeen Ye
CI. ':hl
sceori;mill;cll.l:ls.)ce:liot( II evidence as
experience
couldli
c:llll:tijerrir:clie",;;;;.
,til:lieefia.eept,o
rtth :
oft '
tgiireeartriemillicp,;:rct aottiltimimilisi 1 Itic":,
a-
besto.
.1,1,,,J.0.(1:,1,i,..,.,:
•1111•14 ,
he regretted it-j :this year from France, Flanders, ' ft. time c.e,
was' placed under their ininootement. Bat if pre- which they'passed upon it; was the' a ()ie.: bp".
gasiative interference,
sent difficulties were strop( - o. the flu. , e--1.0,
. , . .
hie
si)ls(t;.1(.111(tIoatclaelal
sftoir:esaoliilxittioitel- that
.F .we could !ravel resr
.cettlit:,en
wiii_cut,„:7o,..l &tie:,
existing CirctinistZitlC'eS)' Of the ceont(ll;tl;ll.'sy.',.'fill'oh'ealgiutelsie: iLl:aiugretsii at111:13:1(te:111lloajil-ile's ll' z tl- ,
that "it be preceded ji.. ante'(' ' '
' t it 041,--
tioll teas not, whether with sufficient'.
e‘tV:iitstit:ser,e°s:jec
application years, he, for his part, pti.liticmtmligiato.ls'ite'snt.:l(!r'fi.i)vila.'o:l-nn•li.jelei
pf eflpital itiot:c corn mielit- 1
lint ~ _ , . f