The Sun.
London, England, 1812-01-16 00:00:00

DGTtios. NitiNno calJed.in andexam:ned.

Q., Is the 8)3 tQof his Miijes!y.'s he.!ito such as tri
renddritiin- incatdsl6 of coming .in pers,o (0 Iris
ParliAnzeot,' or of attending to gny kind of public
busineis ?-4A., I think his Majestv's stake-i.; such
to render him incapable of. coming to l;is Petrliametty
or of doing any public business. '•

Q. What is the prtsent, state of his Majestyli
bodily ?—A. The pi,Sent state a his M.
jesty.'s bodily hezdth is lojerably good.
Q. What state. 0 his Majesty'i
mental health ?—A. His Majesty', inendil health
Idsaue.' , - •

Q. Adverting' to the state of his Majesty's inental-
ancl boWJy I}eall during his present
a; 1r a. 4 it has cpme. tinKley. 'otts.-tvntibh; Ci
you now of opinion dial his nijesty's t covi.iry
probable-8r imprObAt)le ?—A. 1 (oink M:4j-sty's
recovery is iinprobablr. • •

Q. ,11) do yowcon§ider h!sMaje.styl4
recovery to be, iiiietoiLbre f7--A. I think it Co ba
very, improatble,..

U. Are you of opinion that it ii hopeless ?—Yi.
Certainty not.

Q. On what do you found your ovinion that his
Majesty'4:mentat situation is not hopeless?—A. Hi 4
m
Majesty has ro syptoMs of fatuity ; his Ma-
jesty hail, those symptoms, I shetild certainly con-„,
sider it.a hopeless c.se..
Q. Du you coor-jsider that in all mental dieorders
not accompanied by (atuity, there is always some
hope )—A. I cthaUtly -think there' N a chande of
:recovery..

Q. In the course of your pratCtice, have you fte.
fluently had hopes foun-ded ui on such teasonitig
atized
Q. Have y, b.l ever known a patient circumstanced
as his Majesty is, as to menial diSdnler and period of
life recov,-r ?—A. I have known patients older amt.'
his Majesty recover: •
Q. With the same degree of menial disorder • •
A. Not with the same degree of utelital disorder ;
I have seen very few cage's of persons so old
Majesty.

Q. Do yon conceive that .the peculiar situation
his Majesty, circutostaned as he is, with r: Bard
to his regal dignity, has any effect tiPOn •
hi 4 dis.
temper ?—A. LthinkAtiere is a vast deal of irrita-
tion about his Majesty,.‘Nhich is seldom seen in
patients in general:
Q. Do'you conceive that any degree or .pOrtior\
of his Majesty's.disorder, is ascribable to his being a
King I think certainly that the anxiety and
cares of Government* tuay-posibly have contributed
to the disorder.

Q. At this moment do you think that 'the sense
of his own situation, as being the So►trein of the
Country, has any -effect one wax or other upon
the state of his mental health sh9uld think
not,

Q. Does his Majesty spew any anxiety on the
subjea of public affairs ?—A. I have had very few
opportunities of seeing his M ijesty ; during my
presence with hinf, .I have not observed ',any thing
of the kind.

Q. Do you conceive that his Maj-sty's station
has, or has not, or is likely to line any, and what
evert Upon' his -mental dtsorder ?—A, I conceive
that his Majesty has not suffered frorniiis.high situ-
ation, as far as I have had .an opportunity of ob•
serving, during :my attendance. .

Q. Do Yon Think that the refh-ction upon hits
own regal state, when lei. mind'isin a state of pro.!
grese towards recovery, might haie any effect either
in retarding .of accelerating that recovery
think it might have some effect in retauling that re-
covery,:
Q. How long'ago is it since you
.first. saw I.is
IVlAjesty ?—A; The first. time I saw his Majesty was
the gth of oJobec.

Q. Have you seen the King regularly from the
9th of Ocioher I have been at :Windsor to
ditferent times ; the first seven weeks I .W.is Ciiere
once a week ; went on' the Friday, and. c;.4-rie bank
on the Sat urdoy ; The three last vi34s once a fort--
night.

Q. Wye you witnessed any improvement in the'
.King's mental state latteily ? am Rot aware of i't-)y •
improvement. • .
Dr. SADIcEL FOART S6tmONs, called

_
arnined.
Q. Is the State of his Ati.f-Sty's litalib such as to
render him incapable of corning in person to Parlia-.
went, or of his attending-to any kind of public bu-
siness ?—A. It certainly is. •

Q. What is the present state of ,his Majesty's bo.,
dily h6ilth. —A. Upon -the whole, very good.
What 'is the present state of his Majesty's
mental heatth ?'-A. A state of great .der,itq,fettient.
-Q. Adverting'to th Stale of his Majesty's,ruentai
arid bod.ly healvh during his present indisposition,
as far as it has come unde:r• your observation, are
yo.: of opinion that 'his sjesty':s reeovt.:ryjs proha-
bk.. or improbable Li:probable.
Q. In what degree'do you conceiVel it to be itri
probable ?—.lt. is .diffacult, pethaps impossible, tO
say.'
Q. Are you of op.inion,that it is hopeless ?-.HX. I
am not.

Q. How long have you at tended the King ?—A.
From the Di!) ut (,),:tc?br.

Q. Upon what du you ground your opinion that
the King's recovev is irnprob.kble.—A. On the dif- "
ferent attacks and Lhe Fepimtekt atta,:ks, his INlaJesty
fias.had ; his age ; and what I have 'observed occa.,
sionany• of the .sycnptOrns of the diaease under which
he now labours.

Q. Did you ever see any person as old as his
NEljeity, and labourin under the saute degree of
-mental derangement, recover ?—A. Sever,d.
a. Did you ever sre any person as old as Ins Ma-
jesty, aod.who had so long lab6tired umler the satue.

degree of .mental infirmity, recover ?—A. I have.
seen persons as old as his "Majesty recover, after, I
th;rl:, longer duration of the disease than the pre-
se 3tt _
•
Q.- After as many repeated attacks as his Majes-
ty has had ?—*Withresped to the number of attacks,
I haVe had occasion, ir, hospital practice; to see per-
sons:who hay.- vole through a long life, occasionally
subject to attacks of, this kind;, I have known per-
sons' attacked t,m, twelve, or more times, and re-
cover from each of those attacks.
Q. And die of age at last ?—A. Yes.
Q. Not in a state of insanity cannot imme-
diately recollect instances. but I believe I may ven-
ture to say, that I have known some die of other
disease, and not in a state of insluity.
Q. Their -last attack. having come upon them at
the age his. Majesty-has now attained ?—A. That is
hazarding a great deal; it would require time and
reference to records to answer that question; but I
certainly have seen patients as old and much older
than his -Mjesty, recover from attacks of this
kind. " • _ _ _ __ . _

Q. You say that you consider his Majesty's. re-
covery as improbable ?—A. I do.
Q. You say you have known persons as old as
his Majesty,,and labouring under an equal degree of
mental derangement, recover ?—A. Yes. . I
Q. Then will do you think his nijesty's reco-
very improbable ?—Because the number of recoveries
of persons of thAt age is very small in compariSon
with the number of recoveries of those that are
younger ;"-the instances of recovery become less in
the advanced periods of life. In St, Luke's Hospi-
tal we find that io be so much the case, that for the
last three years, it had been resolved to admit no
person above the age of seventy; before that, we
were not restrided. in point of age; and in the course
of ouout thirty years there had occurred (for I look-
ed over the reports) about seventy-eight instanCes of
,persons of seventy years of age and upwards, who
bad be..o admitted, and of that number only about
sixteen had been discharged from the books of the
Hospital as cured ; whereas, taking the whole num-
ber of patients during that period, the number
amou t.trg to above six thousand, about one
lialf or very nearly hall,. beive recovered, but only
oile,patient in five of that advanced ae have reco-
vered
_

Q. -Is nqi the state of his Majesty's constitution
and general:health remarkably strong, consis:ering
the period of his lite I—A. His' Majesty's consti-
tution is so, good, that I should rate him as a
mail of sixty, in point of health, now at this mo-
ment.
Q. Have you perceived I Ittr!rly any symptoms
of improvement in his Majesty's n.;2ntal health ?
--A. I have thought, for tire last mtiflh, his Ma-
jesty detailed atcdote, and seemed to listen to
what was said to him by those about him rather
more than he .lid at the beginning of my attendance.
Q. Do you consider that any marerral symptom
of improvement i—A. I have thought it rather a fa-
vourable.sign. _
'Duthe symptoms of_ his Majesty's present dis-
order differ in any respect, and in what, from 'hose
which.you had an opportunity of observing when
you attended his Majesty in his illuess in 1804 ?
A. The state of his Majesty's ideas is very different
from w hat it wos in -1804 ; tire fact is, that the
symptoms-of menial disease must be in a great de-
gree.the id.-:as of the patient ;it is not like a bodily
disease, you can judge the state of a man's mind only
from the ideas he gives fOrth, and they are in many
.respects very different from what they were when I
attended his Majesty before. - -
Q. Do the differences which you observed in his
his. Majesty's present and past state lead you to form
conclusions more or less unfavourable to his ultimate
recovery ?—A. More. unfavourable.
Q. Have you ever discovered any symptoms of
fatuity in his Majesty's case i—A. I have not.
Do you, on account of the absence of that.symp-
tom, think less unfavourably of his Majesty's reco-
very ?—A. More favourably.
Q. Have you ever been in the habit of classing
the different descriptions of mental disorders I—A.
That is a matter of so much difficulty, that I have
not attempted it any more than the • common _
dis-
tinclion of mania and melancholia, low spirits, and
high spirits, or more or less of irritability.
Q. Do you conceive the loss of sight in his Ma-
jesty would have any effect in retarding or accele-
rating his recovery, or rendering it more or less pro-
bable?—A. The number of cases of blind persons
that I have met with, who have been insane, has
been very small; they do n.,t amount to more than
seven or eight; they have been all of them unfa-
vourable cases ; and it is dltfieult to say what effect
blindness may have, with respect to the treatment of
an insane person ; in [some points, it may be fa-
Vourable, but in general- one would suppose it was
rather unfavourable. You cannot guide and manage
the patient so well as if he could see.
Q. Do you mean by unfavourable cases, cases in

which the patients did not recover i—A. Yes.
Q. Do you conceive the reflection upon his regal
• State, when his Majesty's mind is in a state or pro-
gress towards recovery, might have aey'effeet w hot-
ever in. retarding or accelerating that recovery ?—A.
His Majesty has appeared to retain 'a consciousness
of his regal stale, and that seems to helve given a pc-
. culiar-lemure to his disorder, and makes it in some
degree different from that of an ordinary case ; but
I should find it vet), difficult to say how far that
would retard or promote his recovery ; it makes
the case rather more difficult to conduct.
Q. Have the goodness to,state, whether you con-
sider. his Majesty s perceptions as clear and distinct i
—A. His Majesty's perceptions, with resp'ect to
any obje&S that are presented to him, are correCt,
but he has a number of ideas floating in his mind
that are extremely erroneous; but he judges of the
ohje6ts immediately around him, his food and those
things, with great precition ; speaks of the good-
ness of a dish, whether he likes it or not, and
knows every thing presented to him : so far his
perceptiun is correct.
Q. Does his Majesty's memory appear to be at
all atfected i—A. His memory is firm and good.
a. Do you draw any inference from that circum-
f.tance., with rchpea to the probability or improba-
bility of recovery ?—A. That is certainly a favour-
able c.rcumstanue. [Withdrew.