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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, AUGUST 4.
(Continued from our Paper of yesterday.)
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS' BILL.

Mr. BRISC OE was extremely sorry to see such a spirit
manifested by the churchwardens and parish of Chelms-
ford, and he believed that among many members of the
Church of England there existed a sincere desire to see
Church-rates abolished. He thought the justice of the
case would be satisfied by the churchwardens receiving the
rate, and consenting to Mr. Thorogood's discharge.
In answer to Mr. EWA RT,
Dr. L II INGTON said he did not like to make any
alteration in the Bill in the absence of his Noble Friend,
but he thought the following proviso would suit the justice
of the case, that in cases of Church-rate the Judge should
be entitled to discharge the prisoner on the payment of the
rates and costs into Court.

Lord G. SOMERSET disapproved highly of the con-
tumacious conduct of John Thorogood ; but conceiving the
amount of punishment he had received to be sufficient, he
thought he ought now to be discharged. Had the Bill of
his lion. and Learned Friend been permitted to proceed,
this difficulty would not have arisen. He thought the
proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman was entitled to
consideration, and therefore he would suggest that the de-
bate should be adjourned till to-morrow, to give time to
consider the subject. . .

11r. F. MA ULE suggested that the third reading
should take place now.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that he would suggest that
the third reading should take place now, and then he
would propose an amendment, on which the debate might
be adjourned. With regard to the case of Mr. Childs,
the Judges at Norwich were county practitioners; but their
practice seemed to be a more merciful one than the Lon-
don practice.
Mr. BERNAL thought his Right Hon. Friend had
been rather harshly treated by the Hon. Member for
Finsbury. Was he, in a case of this sort, to wait in order
to see what was the Norwich, the Manchester, or the Li.
verpool practice ? His Right Hon. Friend could not have
acted otherwise than he did, and there did not rest the
shadow of an imputation upon him on account of his con-
duct in this matter.
The Bill was then read a third time.
The Linen Manufacturers (Ireland) Bill was read a third
time, and passed.
INFANT FELONS BILL.

The Order of the Day for receiving the Report on the
Infant Felons Bill having been read,
Mr. E WART felt bound to offer a few remarks on the
Bill. He believed hose who had introduced the Bill were
actuated by the most humane motives ; but he thought it
extremely pernicious in principle. The interposition of
the Court of Chancery had nothing to do with the crime
of the child ; it referred to the conduct of the
parents, and their capability of bringing up the child in a
moral course. It appeared to him that the interposition
(if necessary at all) should take place before the crime
was committed instead of afterwards. Where a represen.
tation was made that the parents were bringing up their
child in crime, that, in his opinion, would form a good
ground for the interference of the Court of Chancery. lie
regretted that a Bill of so much importance should be
passed at so late a period of the Session, and in a compa-
ratively empty house, when so many Hon. Members,
who were likely to give expression to their
sentiments upon that measure had left town. Even now,
if it was intended to pass the Bill, he thought it would be
advisable to place some control over the power of the
Lord Chancellor, by causing a reference to be made in
the first instance to the Secretary of State for the Home
Department.
Mr. BE RNA L gave every credit to the Hon. Member
for the motives teat had actuated him, but he thought the
suggestion which he had just thrown out would be ex-
tremely injudicious, and would not effect the objects he
bad in view. He could not see how the application was to
be made to the Secretary of State, or what practicable
result it would effect.
Sir C. BURRELL supported the Bill.
Mr. LANGDALE thought the Bill had been very
carelessly drawn up, and many parts of it were objection-
able. He thought the Bill gave a monstrous power to the
Lod Chancellor, and he should therefore use every means
which the forms of the House allowed to prevent it passinr,
into a law. Under the Bill the child of a Jaw might be
brought up as a Christian in spite of the wishes of its
parents. He would find it his duty to oppose the Bill in
a future stage.
Mr. HAWES supported the 8111. The objections to
the Bill came rather late, and applied more to the whole
penal system of the country than to the Bill.
Mr. ESTCOURT opposed the Bill. It was cruel not
only to the children but to the parents, who had no option
as to whether their children should be taken from them or
hot. There was not even a provision for informing the
parents of what was going on, These children had been
tried and convicted for felony, and had suffered the punish-
ment for their crimes, why then were they to have this
further punishment inflicted on them ? He did not think
it right to leave to the Lord Chancellor, or to any other
person, the power of taking a child from its parent. He
thought the Hon. Gentleman had acted most unwisely in
drawing the attenticn of the House to the religious in-
struction of the children ; there was this diff,rcnce between
the cases of the children and of the convicts alludc.l to by
the Hon. Member for Lambeth, that the convicts were un-
dergoing their sentence, and that these children had un.
dergone theirs.
Sir C. GREY had to propose as an amendment a
clause prohibiting the sending the infant during its mino-
rity beyond the seas without the consent of the Lord
Chancellor. Ile believed that this amendment was ap.
proved of by her Majesty's Government. He thought it
would obviate many of the objections which had been
urged against this Bill. Ile earnestly begged the Mem-
ber for Knaresborough not to persevere in his intention of
taking every means in his power to oppose this Bill, and
hoped be would reconsider his determination. He thought
his Hon. Friend the Member for Wigan had taken too
narrow a view of the subject. The fact was, the
Bill was a Bill to provide for infant felons on
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novelty in mixing up the Lord Chancellorear
proceedings, and if the power had been given to a Judge
who tried the Child, instead of to the Chancellor, he thought
there would not have beer, so many
objections to it. Its
object was in fact to substitute education for imprisonment
or transportation. With the amendment which he now
proposed, he thought the Bill was a very valuable one,
and was deserving the support of the House.
Mr. BRISCOE suggeeted that the best course the
House could adopt was to postpone the measure till the
next 4ession of Parliament. Every one must admit that
the Bill had been very hastily drawn up, and no discussion
had taken place upon iris principles when any considerable
number of Members were presont, Under these eircum-
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and opposed the Bill with regard to the abolition of capital
punishments, on the ground of the lateness of the Session.
'ly, main objection he had taken to Cue measure was that
it was ats unr)tie interference with parental authority and
the liberty of the Al;Nect. He should therefore join the
Hon. Member for Knaresboro4,7l:, in offering every g every opposi-
tion in his power to the passing of the 4tll.
Mr. FOX 344ULF.: said the present was the third or
fourth time the principle of the Bill had been discussed in
that House, and notwithstanding url that had been said by
the flooowraWB Member
who bad last addreased the
it, would take upon himself the responsibility
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