The Sun.
London, England, 1823-10-01 00:00:00

TO TUE EDITOR OF THE OLASGOW CHRONICLE.

Sine—We beg leave, through the medium of your Paper,
distinctly to state the following tactic, connected with the ques-
tion at issue, between Mr. Owen, and the Presbytery of Lanark.
Mr. Owen never ordered either of us to discontinue the mail
ing of Scriptures in our classes, nor did either of us ever eon.
dude from any conversation with him that he wished us to do
so. Our supposition, that such was Mr. Oweres wish, mope
entirely from a communication made to us by Mr. Mendell.
Mr. Lamb sop we have assorted that the (mita was positive-
ly Issued;---such a representation would have been completely
%41,1warrantAtil s Neither of us ever made any such.
Mr. Owen is said to have expressed his opinion to one of us,

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that the Bible contained muff worse than useless." in titi
letter of lilies Howell, from which this is Tinted, Thlmas
Davidson is mentioned sot bring that individual. Ile ho retry
distinctly denies that thowespteasieris or Any, otbtr situiler
ptessiop, or any words which might be supposed to cortry
any such sentiments were ever used by qtr. Owen in sp.:baking
to him.
hr. Lamb states that at the examination of the 3choc4,
:18th Oct. 1822, there was it deplorable deficiency eninpaied
with former exhibitions." We can state, On the :nthtr hand,
that several of the members of the COrtinioser exprvaetal their
satisfaction on witneuing the progress die children had inath.
in reading, which was the only branch of education in wh!c::
they examined them at all.

Mr. Walker states that he has been induced, from °Dover-
eations with us, to believe that the reading of the Scriptures in
the schools was not ordered, but merely permitted, and that
we were not allowed to teach the Catechism at all. We would
distinctly state to the public, that both th Scripttirts arid;
the Catechism have always formed part of the ret,:ular anti
established instruction given to the children, the former or,
week days, and the latter on Sabbath, from which instru,..
don, we should not have considered ourselves auhortatd •
visiting. We never either gave, or intended to giya, the Com-
mince any other statement than this.
Mr. Walker aska Mr. Clegg, and ISlr.Owaissjurtier,." thoit3
the contract bind row teazel-6d* the Itible roans latimution
or if it does not, have ye laud found a clause in it, forbidding
the children to taw tout to memory any passages from that ye,
lame, or psalms, or hymns of any description. Wlustevvr tars
the answer, I have merely to state, that all the teachers in-
formed us that they were not permitted to teach the childrenr
any thing of the kind. More, then, we have evidence before
us that the children are not suffered to occupy their minds, or
to store their memories with any sacred or religious subject."
To this wo reply,—the children in our classes commit to me •
mory and have always done so; in the Sabbath school, paisisges
of scripture, and psalms and hymns. We declare that neither
of us stated to any one member or' the Committee any thing ter
the contrary,—and that their memories must fail them, wn!ri
they Aim that we did.

We art, Sir,
Your obtaiiest *MUM.
THOMAS- DAVIDSON.
.10IIN DAVIDSON.
New Lanark, 19th September, 11.123.

TO TIIE EDITOR OF TUC GLASGOW CHRONICLE.

Sin—My name having repeatedly appeared, in conneeticm
with the unfortunate miemiderstanding which has been of lere
so often alluded to by the Presbytery of Lanerk, evidently re.
quires from me a more explicit declaration than I have yet given
publicly. The fact, at-cording to the best of my recollection, is
simpl this t—ln, March, 11r12, Mr. Owen, being about to de.,
part fur London, had occasion to speak to me, touching school
matters, in course of conversation, that gentleman said it would
be neissary to confine the use of the Catechism by the children to
the Sabbath day, in consquence of the variety which he intended
their future instruction should embrace ; and he remarked that
the Sabbath wad: the most proper day for using both the Bible
and Catechism. Subsequently, in thinking over the matter, I .
was unfortunately induced, though not without a iteruple, to
view this remark in a light, in. which I am tow pettedly eon.
vineed Mr. Owen did not intend it, viz. in that or an order
which I was to act upon. It was acting under thbt idea that the
SeriptureSt were suspended in one class for about a fortnight.
The misapprelienvion itself, as it appears- to mei was a vet*/
simple ones and has since been most. satisfactorily explainesi
and prejudice only OM a*xsettnt to I.IW ins the- Crintitta of these,
who Cap make such an incident the groand, of anocetenstian
like the present it is not without much imeasinese hat,:
since witnessed the very improper advantage rarlti> 3t has, been
taken of this mistake; and. I feel that„ howeverdisereditable
to my own apprehension, a sense of justice to. Mr. Owen tle-
mande this statement from me; in giving it, declare. myself
entirely independent of that gentlemen, the only existing obli.
gation being that of personal attachment, which it ix my duty
to cherish, in return for the uniform kindness experienced from
hint during a number of years.
Before.coneluding, permit me to remark that the report. pre
sented to the Oeneral Assembly in May last, on the authority
of the Presbytery of Lanark, stated that the Scriptures wer.7!.
not used in the New Lasiark Schools. let opposition to this
report, .1 do positively affimi that, storing my connection with
New Lanark Schools, those gentlemen never found the Scrip-
tures excluded when visiting them ; and when a report came
to their Cars that they had been prohibited. the cause of the
temporary and partial suspension was candidly explained to
reply to their inquiries on the subject, so to to leave them not
the smallest grounds for reporting that the Scriptures were not
used in New I.‘anark Schools.
I ant, Sir, your most obedient servant,
GEN. 1,. 'I‘I.I4UDELL.

PARLIAMENT.

IIOUSF: OF 14ORDS, S Fr. 30.

At two o'clock this day Parliament was further prorogued,
by Commission, to the 25th of November. The Commis-
sioners were the Earl of Shaftesbury, Lord St. Helens, jMrd
Ardoi, and Lord Bexley. The Lord Chancellor was nit
present.

Mr. Bellamy, with the Clerks and Offieeri of the house of
Commons, attended at the bar. The Commission was read by
the Earl or Shaftesbury.

From the LONDON GA ZirrTr, Sept. 30.

Whitehall, Sept. fl '7 • 1811

The King has been pleased to direct letters pilot to be
passed under the Great rz.ell of the United Kingdom of Great
Britain 'and Ireland, for granting the dignity of n Baronet cf
tho said United Kingthun to the following Gentlemen, and to
the heirs male of their bodies lawfully begotten, vis.r-
Charles Forbes, of New and Kitinglassie, in the eottrity of
Aberdeen, Esq.
Thomas Reid, of rwell-grove, In the county of Surrey, am-
of Oroystone-park, in the county of Dt11.15 Mt*, gao.
George Abercrombie Robinson, of Itatt's-hOwe, in Mc
county of Sotomet„ Er.q.
Wm. lZaillic, ofPolhemnlet, in the couu ty of Linlithgow, Esi.

t Sept, 30-, 1023.
The King. 11ee b Henrylac pleased to appoint Canning, Esq.
to be his Majesty's Agent and Consul in the circle of itOVL r
Saxony and the free cities of Hamburg, Bremtn, and Leabccic,

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