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,EAST' INDIA sI-lIPIPTII/4.(;

• !u Eirl
..BucKiN-GH-AMSH IRE nit Well, that
ii c tiore 0.-cosid go into a Connifittee on the
t!Ni Sh-pping Bill.
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1\7;• HARtlm•m was ften 'heard as Corms6l fen-
"t!:, f-,hipimiltlers 01 the -River Thames agginst The
the (2,,,tfriseh had withdrawll.-,
'1 ht. Earl of DotzooottmoßE contended, tlio the
11,m,, bad beard nothing to justify them in pro-
ceedinglurther in ?It'll and be thought that
un a iournment wotdd give them tim.E.to take the
std,:zet into fuller consideration. .
The Earl qf BUCKINGHAM3IIIIIE contended that
the intere•qs of the persons for ‘vhom the Learned
C,,niTel had apps ared were in no wise injured by
the pre-3ent NIL The shipping of India were at'
this moment entitled to all the benefits of British

regkoy enjoyed by Britkh ships ; for under the
26th of King, ships • built in his Majesty's
tertittiries in Asia Were entitled to registry in this
kingdom. The pre,ent Bill was a'modification of
ire -existing law in - favour of the ship-builders of
this country. Fro'in the documents On the table
it appeared, that there was a growing deficiency
'of iinbcr in this country applicable for naval pur-
poses.- The foreign timber in 1811 amounted to
Liore than one-half of the British timber em-
ployed in our Dock-yards, and in 1812 it amounted
to more t iwo-,birds. Lord St. Vincent, in
a letter to the Chairman of the Eastin&a Com-
paPv• suggested that it: would he advisable not
to build ships. of morc than 800 tons burden, for
the service of the East lndia'Cornpany,.of liritisli
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Earl STANHOPE observed. -that the Noble Earl
(But kinghAmshire) had talked a great deal about
the law,as it now stood, but in proposing a new
law he ought not to have talked so much about
the law as, it stood,.as-what.it ou. ht to be. The
Rl)ifle Eai I had referred to the documents on the
table, and asked them, in triumphant tone, if
they had read 'them ? Till's reminded hint of the
answer made by a French Cure to an ignorant
French Bishop, who asked him if he bad read his
11Iaodtment, or what was generally called a-Bi-
shop's Charge ? No; said the. Cure ; but have
you read it your3clf, my Lord ? In like manner
3ir might say, if the Noble Eirl bad, read the
documents, he did not. scent to have them at
his fine,' rs' ends.• If there was any thing in the
argument of the cheapness and durability of teak,
it apply also to ships of the line. Ship-
building was the first and most important manu-
facture of the triuntry, witho.ut any exception.—
Was it proper that this manufacture should he
transferred to a countr* which we held by a thread %
Evtan in the West Indies, where the Black popu-
lation wasltO the White as 15 to 1, no small ap-
prehension had sometimes been felt ; but in India,
the proportion ofißlacks to Whites was more than
200- to 1. They ought to consider the matter
over and over again, before giving the smallest
coantenance to a project of- this kind, for trans-
ferring our navy, and our knowledge,-and capital,
to India.

The Eli.] of DolstotrGamonE said, that this Bill
Went to restrain a right tvhieti Itad been enjoyed
by indiatt ship-huilders for these thirty years
past He had yet; beard no reason stated for
changing the law.

The Earl cif IlucKittrAmsuißE stated, that al-
'Thonizb a good deal of :dam had been expressed last
Session fly the ship-builders hroughout the country
at t:iis Bill, from a want of due knowledge rat the
nature o i
.i ;30 much %Acre they no convinced
that the Bid wa.l not ,injurious to their interests,
that the Only Petitions oow on the table against
it %vele from Ipswich and the River Thani-es.
The [loose liter) went Imo' a Co mmittee; in
which Lllrd Torrington, the Earl of Donough-
more, the Earl of Liverpool,- and Lord Stan-
hope, took a part in discussing the different claims.
'The Report was received without any amend-
inents.

The other Bills *ere the►Y forwarded throw4h
their respective stages, after which the House
adjourned.

110liS5 OF COMMdtiS.

Air. BATHURST reported from the Downpatrielt Com-
tnittee, that Lord Gler3%vloy, was duty e-feeted; and that the
Petition against his retorts was not frivolous or vexatious.
The report of the Bill for authorising the subsidies under
the Convention was agreed to, -aud the Bill ordered to be
read a third time to-nom-row.

The Irish S,.irits Rtgulation Hill was ordered td be read a
second time tn-morruw.

-On the motion of Mr. WESTERN, a return *as ordered of
the qttalltity of 'lambs' wool imported within the, hist four
.

Sir E. BRYDGES, after' a felt prefatory remarks, moved
the revival of the Committee on the Pauper Removal Bill,
which MIS accordingly ordered for Friday.

Mr. 9ENNETTi7nit'e for an Account:fit the sums that bad
teen expeuJed on the buildings in Windsor Park. After
some observations oti eke part of Mr. 'neroeiand Mr. Ba-
ilturst, in wii4.l the last Gentleman was understood Jo say,
Chat the accounts would be produced within a few days, the
trotica was Withdrawn.

PENSIONS.
Mr, Murrtm rose to call the attention of the
House to the consequences .that would result, if
pens-,ious continued to be granted by the Crown in
"the manner he should mention. Tito first he
.sho,dd gil.,de to had been given on . the ism of
Fvbruary, 180 e), to a Member of this klotise,
tviinm he shottlii"not name, as be did not wish to
make this a.persoral discussion. It consisted of
10001. chargeable on the funds
_in the hands of
the Secretary of State for the Foreign, Depart-
anent, lie contended that the Crown had no right•
tci graut peThions except o,:t its hereditary re-
venue, or the revenue al'o:c -I to the possessor
for life, If.rensions Wet gtiloteel in this manner,
the'Crown would its fact give them but of the Taxes
toted bythis Mouse. For if the Pensions charge-
able on sit, h Funds, made thos.
Funds inade-,
mnate to the purpose for which they had been
'granted, t..<!-deficieney %ironhl remain to be made
.Tbe Crown would thus a side way in-
crease its rerent.ie beyond shat Was granted by
varrainent. The ca.4e to whir!h he had aHnded
hal aken place on the Ist of Feb. 1806, and was
'o!;1,7 known to the House in thaw 1808, when the
dried • Report of the Committee of Public CX-
Peniii:nre had been presented. The renSion had
re to!'e becrapaid.for two %% hole years, without
its !wing in the rower of P'arliament- to interfere
• the matter. Previous to 1807, the Crolvu had J