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LONDON. TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 1847.

The Lords met at Five o'clock.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Glasgow,
complaining of the influx of Irish paupers. His Lord-
ship took the occasion of stating to the House how little
the Irish landlords had done for the relief of the existing
distress. Some of the wealthy barristers of Dublin,
whose tenantry were employed on public works, did not
even answer the application which was made to them to
subscribe for the relief of the existing distress; and a
wealthy dignitary of the Church, who received 4501. a
year from land in the county of Cork, contributed the
munificent sum of 1/.

The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL and the Marquis of LON •
DONDERRY complained of the3e attacks upon the Irish
landlords, who were burdened with marriage settlements
and various other obligations.

Lord 13aotTGRAH iresentNl a petition from Hull,
praying for an alteration in the criminal law.
In answer to Lord STANLEY, it was stated by Earl
GREY that the pnntsbraent of transportation would not
be abolished; it would continue to be the same proci,,ely
as it was at present, with but one difference, namely, the
place where one part of the sentence should be endured.
The penal labour would be inflicted in this country under
the immediate observation of the Government, where
they would control and check the abuses which took
place, but the convict would be discharged in Australia,
under the same control as he was placed by the present
system. This, he imagined, could be effected without an
Act of Parliament.

Lord BROTIGNAM denied that it could.
Lord CAMPBELL considered that all that the Govern•
ment proposed to do might be effected without an Aci
of Parliament.

A desultory conversation ensued, uhich was put an
end to by
The Loan CHANCELLOR moving that a Select Com-
mittee be appointed to inquire into the execution of the
criminal law with respect to transportation, and espe-
cially with respect to juvenile offenders ; which was
agreed to.

The Labouring Poor (Ireland) Bill was (after certain
amendments had been agreed to) read a third time and
passed, and their Lordships adjourned.

The Commons met at Four o'clock.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE gave notice that, after Easter, he
would move a resolution pledging the House to the
repeal of the rate-paying clauses of the Reform Act.
Mr. HUME gave notice of a motion to refer the Irish
Miscellaneous Estimates to a Select Committee.

On the motion that the House go into Committee on
the Landed Property (Ireland) Bill,
Mr. ROEBUCK moved a resolution to the effect that
any plans of relief for the distress of the Irish poor,
by means of loans to the owners of property in Ireland,
would be unjust and impolitic, unless accompanied by a
system of taxation which would subject such property
to the burdens already imposed upon all property
throughout Great Britain.
Sir B. HALL seconded the motion.

Mr. LABOUCHERE was not prepared to deny, as a
general principle, that Ireland ought to be taxed like this
country, but he thought it would be a singular resolution
for the [louse to come to at this period, when the distress
in Ireland was unexampled. Ile coull not, therefore,
support the proposition.
After a few words from INIr. SHAW,

Mr. J. O'CONNELL said he was for taxis; those who
left Ir 4 land, but not those who remained, and did their
duty as resident gentry.
Mr. BAILLIE was opposed to giving out-door relief to
the able-bodied labourer.
Mr. IlumE supported the motion.

I Sir ROBERT PEEL did not consider this a fitting occa-
si:m to enter on the discussion of the question. He did
not objwct to the abstract principle, but the difficulties of
Ireland were not to be met by a resolution of this kind.
Lord JonN RUSSELL had on previous occasions stated
the objections which existed to the imposition of an
income-tax on Ireland. He thought great credit was due
to the Irish people for the resignation and patience with
which they had borne their afflictions.
Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN considered that the Hon. Member
for Bath had done more for the cause of repeal that
evening than the Young Ireland party had done in man)
months.
After a few words from Mr. CALLAGHAN,

Lord GEORGE BENTINCK expressed his regret that
the amount of money to be advanced to the landed
proprietors of Ireland was not even larger then had
been proposed.
Mr. B. Escort thought the time had come when
equal taxation should take place.
Mr. M. MILNER did not think the present a fitting
time for imposing a poor-law upon Ireland.
Mr. MUNTZ would have supported the motion bad it
been a substantial one, but as it led to nothing, he could
not support it.

After a few observations from several Hon. Members
the Mouse divided, when the numbers were—

For the original motion
For the amendment

Majority
The House then went into Committee ; the whole of
the clauses were agreed to, and tkc Bill ordered to be
reported on Wednesday next.
The other orders having been disposed of, the louse
adjourned at Two o'clock.

Seeing that little reliance can be placed upon the
promises of tranquillity which are occasionally given
by the casual torpor of the Spanish Government, it
is always advisable to keep an observant eye upon the
movements of Peninsular parties. Whether the Mo-
derados are slinking down into obscurity, or the
Afrancesados are resigning their protracted influence,
or the Progressistas are abating in their exertions, or
the Carlists are disappearing from the arenas of poli-
tical strife—be sure they are covertly mustering
their forces and accumulating their strength for the ad-
vent of some coming emergency. The quiescence of
the circles cf Madrid is as deceptive as the quiescence
of the ocean when " cats' paws" are feathering up on
the horizon. Long as it has been the failing of English-
men to regard with indifference the machinations and
the progress of Continental states, we are satisfied
in latterly observing in our countrymen a disposition
to scan the diverse mutations which are perceptible
in most foreign
Governments. Excellent as is the pro-
verb which inculcates the advisability of looking well
after our own affairs, it is
consi-
deration when applied to theses grscarcely
worthy of
it is scarcely worthy of consideration
fortunes, and
scarcely applicable. The fortunes,:i whether for goodheth au"
itis
or evil, of the several kingdoms of the earth are be-
coming so mutually dependent, that the interest of
the one is almost synonymous with the interest of the