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,14604) 11., but to the orders of the Nast India Co., to remove Mr.
Ilruckiughairt from the country. I cannot give a stronger proof
of the feelings entertained upon the appointment of Doctor
Ihryse than, as is perfectly well known according to' the regula-
tion, that the Governors are required to send home to the Court
of Directors an account of all the appointments within 'a month,
shot upon receiving that account the Court of Directors thought
41; wrong, so that it strews that the law, as it now stands, is
sufficient for all purposes. Mr. Buckingham admits he
i;ats been indiscreet. I say his indiscretions might have
been highly mischievous, and his arguments ,seein to go
to the catenr„oljastifying that which has been done for he
aeknowletiges he was indiscreet. Ile does not deny thnt indis.
action, under such circumstances, is as bad as a premeditated
rosempt to do that which is wrong ; therefore, if the Govern.
rik thOught proper, they had an undoubted right to send him
home.

Mr. Buckingham has attempted to argue the legal question, I
prttetal not to give any opinion upon that part of the subject,
but I:think my Learned h mind must have convinced every one
who heard him, that there is no ground for what he has urged
upon: that subject. It may be for another place to say whether
tocsin shall enjoy a free Press. Does it follow because it is an
-advantage in this country, that it most be so to the Government
of India? We have been led to suppose that India was go-
Neintd under different circumstances; we have been told that
4 was despotic ; Mr. Buckingham has told us it is not so. It
is despotic, or it is not. It is governed by the Act of Perna-
mem, which has not been violated upon the present occasion.
I certainly, upon this subject, after what has been stated, can
advance nothing new ; it is sufficient for me to state, that the
.I)bjcet being to have this subject discussed, that object has been
most fully attained; and, therefore, rdo hope that all now
Present will feel with me that it is unnecessary to discuss it at
any greater length, but that we should now proceed to put
the question."
Captain Gowarr.— I will occupy .the time of the Court but
for a very few minutes-.-.I wish only to make a single observation
concerning my relative, who has been alluded to in the course of
this debate. I have now in my hand a letter which I received
from him, and which I will beg to read.
• f The llonouralde Proprietor here began to read a letter amidst
considerable cries of Order! Order I—Question ! Question 1
" I feel great pleasure to boar my humble testimony to those
respectable, gentlemen at Scrampore, whose names are asso-
ciated, wititevery thing that is praiseworthy. I also am desi-
rous to pay my tribute of praise to the Church Missionaries,
for it is too much the titshion of the present day to despise the
exertions of those honourable. respectable, anti amiable Men.
These gentlemen have placed themselves at the head of every
thing good, they have established an Agricultural Society, and
o therinstitutions, at Itenares.
".1 out now come to notice the second head. I know that
there are those who are of opinion that we are introducing to

I Here the Honourable Gentleman was called to order.]
I Si' (..'harks Forbes rose to address the Court.]
Boent n st.—Before the honourable Proprietorpro-
ends to address the Court, I would just say that I never knew
of the existence of the document to which an allusion has been
made. At the moment I left Calcutta, no apprehensions were
'known by me to exist of any further regulations being likely to
be placed upon the freedom of the press and this Immortal,
to which allusion Was made by the Learned Gentleman in the
tourer: of his address as my production, did not occur till I was
at the Cape.
biir Cmantats }'house—'t lam sorry at this late hour to
fatigue the Court by any observations. But some points have
boett advanced, upon which I think it necessary just to say a
word .or two. It has been said, that the moment a malt gives up
acting under what is called' mariner's licence, lie is liable
to be scatt4itiltoinntrliy!
ocletAtivnilnbitutliat this should be a little under.
stood, I n arm. Now I will defy any
(leadsman to produce any Charter, or any Act of Parliament,
twillaiirceitiiirtauntlyintruiseenstitoTsndmeroint of. licences, or in any of which
antirrtariners or free merchant's
licence." I wish that 111 r. Adamour other public rune.
t ionuries would exercise their powers with respect tomissionaries,
lest they Amulet drive us out of India. Ido not allude to the
• missionariestaSerampore,but to those_ men who.go aboutprenelt-
7ittg in tubs, the effeetcoafsewlowfsberoniluct may be very distressing.
With respect to the y I cannot help saying,
that I did not think it was a subject worthy of the talents of
Mr. Buckieglisn, or worthy the notice of Mr. Adam, but I
do think thus that gentleman, Mr. Buckingham, has been
twetritehtelr)lefworitehllirillonittilititltA:ni? outer person has ever been treated
s hard to. go back to offences
that had been forgiven, or rather which had been inquired into,
soil upon which h LOUb been found not guilty, I think upon no
fewer than nine different
charges, upon sili of which this gen-
tleman was acquitted.•
do not stand up here for the liberty of the press to abuse
Government either individual! or collectively, d admit there
c gilt I°, be ti, efined and wind .Y me I rheas 4Wri Cr er su.l
.cictitt. matter for enquiry. 41. ttrt per' f.eceity saris.
it' that Air. Iltickitti.thana would have been sent home
mitt India before, if it had not been for Lord Ilan.
;4111111. No sooner had his Lordship riultted India, than
to was wurned, and knew it war naked, whether he had not
}Jotter .tilt the settlement for a certain time ? It was a common
topic of conversation mole I I di at Ball Rooms. I know
g t t.
~Wfltte will be done to Mr.: Buckingham" says one, t' and I
'"*.' says *Miter, k‘ he will find 3lr. Adam a very different
nom to my I liastinge."
It has been hinted that the consequence of this gentle.
man's being sent from India bites been the destruction of his pro-
-I,)e,_rtY,.. and I do think that this Court is bound to give
Tudorstiplortubuto an indemnification, so tar as the Government of
has acted towards hint with unnecessary hardship.
:mull not take up inure of your time, Sir, at this late hour or iris
but I hope the amendment will not pass.
s./r. II ;ism, reply—" I ant astonished that my I xitriied
r..iliCkri4)ll, IMOUId 'WINO 10(011 COllYM!l“'Vvr kill) 1,1)
Man taxi,' red le ere before. I brought, forward this siibjcct, tie.
eratitig dint r. 1 i.`3 Case khou Id not be cot I aid end ai forming any
part of it, but only to exemplify the subject was it introduced
by me. I declare I never could have expected such a course
to bast been taken as has been taken this day, for all
my speech remains to this moment unanswered! My lio-
mitirable Friend has moved an amentlntent not connected
with this subject. It is in effect, that Air. Buckingham
WWI expelled properly from India ; anti he grounds his argu.,
room upon papers of which we know ; and I do say,
it is a proeettling to me novel, anti I Prot:ounce it to be wholly
irregular.. It is anew principle; while Ito admits he is willing
41 enquire into the general state of tint regulations reliitiNg
to the press, ho M the same time thritike from the enquiry.
--Now do therefore contend, that my friend hse3 (Mil.
Wiry in din prinCiple* npori witch by always leas lee-ore:vied
to move. What doe* he say ? Why, when the time corms
I shall be ready to meet the tinestion of a frt.° preset in
hides l I give him an opportunity to do so, instead of which
too Court is called to pronounce an opinion upon the intlivi.
dud, rase of Mr. litickingloint. If the court approVes of tlsix
amendment, it will Mina in contrealiction to all their other
proceedings. The name of Mr. Buckingham, though" intieh
totzoiloced into this discussion, hag really nothing to do wish the
01',','-stigntion. Sir, there arc two propositions—one that regards
Neu preen itt Indiu:theother which regards that to which Ilia ve he-
ron, *Hilda At this lido hour Ido not mean to take up more
at the tine of the Court. I rejoice most sincerely that Mr. Buck-
Mitown bar had an opportunity of stating his case ; and I
will put it to any Honourable Member, if they ever heard
a snorts complete refutation of all the calumny that hes
been endeavoured to he heaped upon him. I think he
bits completely refuted every charge that hits been brought
against him, therefore, to pass un opinion upon this (lentl.111;/04
WithOilt knowing theeenditet of the Directors whin': the
fair, is, in my opinion, wholly incOrrect. I therefore have
nutting arose to nay, than that I hope, at a future
time, we may have an opportunity to give such an opiniOn or the
conduct wide]) has been exercised to warda Me. undinigti„r,,, But
if my Learnad Friend anti titter who support }tint will keep us in
ignorance, i do protest against their proceedings, and I hope at a
*store opportunity we be better prepared to enter into the
question. Mr },earned Friend saya WE are the sovrl.ttErttua
Of 1 HhIA, Certainly we are, anti we are about to apprOre of
rn Act that will do as nine!) as it is possible' to throw darkness
populatiOn I protest againat
si,d ignorance upon this itnntilule
the amendment, and conclude by saying, that I donut conceive
any answer whatever has bern given to the tvguirtente which
have been urged in. support of the original muttons ! •
Mr, RANPIA JAtKah?(--" It is true that any Friend moved
M‘e of three propositions, but he referred to the whole of those
three 1)2 01)04!IMIS In thecourse of his argument, which went to
Um conduct that hod boon exercised towards 111 r. Buck inellani.
;141" the' early part of the Address of my Honourable
,"'",,enk he,- maid that he oonsidered this to be a disett,iion to
‘it.": °Pi Py way of ittljeUrrirnont, my Honourable Friend,' I
"IftPt6+ 1404411-ttle mistaken as to what lie says about the ir-
Ilest'U *earn, the Canto which has hOen pursued. I thought, his
itt644 w" "we 44 sonic of it at kelt, byatirte, but ins stared
I till* Ilritirt sty of the etindtict of 'adjourriniont, the' last to ennsuler
Non ft onetbliL Indian (teverimiont to Mr. llneking-
the &moment% ha, ikr any one who hes read arts: or,
Inorre paper*, An to, to Arty, that lie; wants
prOy fry sanding out „,414iircr the I)ire;tors had acted pro-
Wang erects, tor it ;,'„otBiPttellt as`they. have done ? My
tio, fvenoel, woiovnint
wtritiflre,iliatl been a want of in lignia.
for Ott prolluctum V( namely if ii,f;ttYl))4,vt. 9tlnterted uny motion
°nth th.s4theY bad suit tliopuichee ,:r1; !nen'--It was tintori7.
iloo.of the cold uef or Oupir ovit,ets,, Pwed, their 11 pproba,
wait It Witt Oreaaaary ilk.pamt. of form t;r4,14:4 liYoer,ore, 1, vdK
Testicle order that ntight do that witleto,4!"P.ll,ublie letter ,
doing, knowing from every solastig:;thattiwcf,„Als,:` !4ni eh .
use conduct of the Governor.4leneralv
1440tita 7 to" rise up Ind say, ore disappromofcli . • !
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