The Sun.
London, England, 1815-04-11 00:00:00

HOUSE' OF COMMONS.

Petitions were presented against the Paving BM, from the
Borough of Southwark, from • the parishes of St. Luhe, St.
Martins in the Fields, St. Mary-le-bonne, and various other
parishes in London. • •
Mr. WROTTESLf.Y presented a Petition from Mr. Racket,
praying that the time might be enlarged fur entering into the
recogni2ances in the :natter of the Downpatrick Election.
Mr. Hacket' appeared at the Bar, and stated that the period
would expire on the 17th of this month. After he withdrew,
the time was further extended, upon the motion of Mr. Wrot-
tesley, till the I Ith of May.
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Tbc
Copyhold Pill was read a first time, and ordered to be
read a second time on Thuisday•
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR brought in his Bill fur abolishing the
punishment of the pillory, which was read,a first time, and
ordered to be read a second, time o❑ Friday se'nnight.
Mr. ROBINSON postponed the ComMittee on the Slave
Trade Abolition Act, (ru►n to-morrow until Monday next.
The False Measures Bill was read a third time and passed,
'as were also the Liberty of the SUbject, and the Poor and
Highway Return Bills.
Mr. RENNET moved that the Committee appointed to in-
quire into the state of the King's Bench, Marshalsea, and
Fleet Prisons, should have power to examine into the new
Prison building in the City of London for the reception of
Debtors.—Ordered.

LATHROP MURRAY. • •
Sir S ROMILLY presented a Petition from this person,
. and expressed. his hope that it would receive the attention. of
the House. When he brought this subject forward on a
former occasion, he was informed that the case of the Peti-
tioner was then under the considerati,n of his Majesty's Go-
vern:neat, and he bad since been apprised, by the' courtesy
of the Right Honourable-Gentleman' opposite, that after
baying given to it the fullest conaideration' it did not appear
to be one in which the Crown could be advised to remit the
execution of the sentence. He therefore felt it his duty to
present the present Petition, though be was utterly unknown
to the individual by whom it was signed. The Honourable
amid Learned Member then recapitulated the facts of the case,
which hare already been given to. the public. Ile obierred
. that the sentence of sewed years transportation was the stye-
rest one which the law authorised to be inflicted for the
offence of bigamy, and remarked that the Petitioner had,
been guilty of the crime under the most extenuating drum;
stances. He now however prayed that it miglrt be suspended,
as he. had been informed by several eminent civilians in Ire-
land, that his first marriage was illegal, and he was proceed-
in-• with all possible expedition to obtain a decision to that
effect from the Ecclesiastical Courts in that country. He (Sir,
S. Itranillyi should merely- move then for the Petition to lie
on the 'fable, and did not know whether he should feel it
necessary to ground upon it any further proceedings. The
Petition was then read; and upon the question tlrat'it should
lie on the table,
- The SOLICITOR-GENERAL rose and said, that inshis own
opinion, and that of his Learned Friend near him (the Attor-
pey-Geuerdl) after having examined every Act of Parliament
in Ireland respecting the validity of the marriage ceremony,
the first marriage of the Petitioner vas a legal one. lie
could state also, that some years ago certain very eminent ci-
vilians in that country were consulted respecting that mar-
Tiage, all of whom deolared that it was a legal one, and that.
no Ecclesiastical Court in Ireland would venture to set it aside.
The question which the Learned Judge,. who tried the case,
Ica' promised to reserve fur the opinion of the Judges, was,
not as to the legality of the first marrial.7,e, but whether, tin-
der the Act of Parliament, a_ single witness who was present
at a marriage, together with- the registry of it, %Vete sufficlent
tLf establish its having taken place. Upon that point, however,
he had no dtraht ; and the Honourable and Learned Member
then referred toTa case iu whic.4 Lord Mansfield had decided,
In oppoiitiou to Sir Wm. Blackstone, that We registry of a
marriage alorie was .sia.ficient.evidence to prove the marriage.
He (the Solicitor-General) had no doubt upon his mind,
therefore as to the lgality of the conviction.

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Sir S. ROMILLY, in reply, contendeil that the severest
punishment ought not to have been indiacd in a. vase which
was certainly attended by nricireurnstanee of aggravation.
• After a rew- words from Mr. IL ADD,INGTON who de-
clared that notxtrahcous cdpsidcratiou ‘vltatover is td mingled

t those to lay them— before the ;Mouse. In the late
case,
With the determ '., he Petition *as drOtred •
to 116 on the Taination oil the
ble.
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American War, the.Atrieficans Chose f 6 tiiblislt
LORD W. BENTr.qdK,.'
pat bv,lirlahrimaenac..l
Iqr.PONSONBY gave notice, that -on Thursday rii.xt tic
vi-nuld rm,re for a copy of the Insti.uttitins under which LOrd he
siire, the,. termination of• the war. When his
NY. Ilexitizak had acted, for the purpose of considering' not
inertly hi, conduct with regard to Genoa, but also his eon.,
dii,:t ‘,..r b respect to Sicily. Lordship first saw the American Commissionersat
W)TION FOR PAPERS. . . Ghent, in the month of August, he was rather in-
Mr., . .
WHITBREAD said, that he. now understood dtflerent about the concluding a treaty, which, on
that the Papers tespecting Genoa rhere the only his -return, he 'was veryalraPpy to sign.- What
was there, in fact; to tootroul the -ambition .of
papers rs..specting the Congress that were to be
the congregative Savereigns of _Eorope, if_the
laid befTre the House. This would be, as he con-, '
pablie voice could not he expressed any where ?
eeived, a very imperfect return to• the -Address :
which was voted by that House. lichnnoe„toad Satisfied with the-course he had takan; be should
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that another very important transfer And annexa- continue to call for information When he thought
turn bad taken place, with respect to Saxosty.---, it necessary.
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lie ha'd read this day in the public prints, a let- Lord- CASTLEREAGHstiII maintained that no
ter purporting to be front the Noble Lord. to public transaction of an important natare Ought
some Prince or other--a letter, which, frau-I its to be partially discussed on imperfect decuments.
extraordinary_ tone, (alone not unusual, with the His return to England affarded no justification
Nohle Lord lit that House) from its views with whatever for a departure front the ordinary coarse
respect. to Saxony, front:lts expressions towards with respect to co:norm-flea:ions on public affairs.
the Emperof of Russia, from its manner of cons- The Congress which he had recently attended waS
hot the, first that had assembled in Europe. it
Bering the affairs of Poland, and also from the
stile-of its composition, was, as he conceived, a , bad happeried in former meetings of the same na-
matchless piece, quite unparalleled in the annals ;tare, that our Negociator had frequently been
changed. tinder such circtunstanees would it
of diplomacy. He wished to learn fry the No- '
ble Lord, whether this letter was to be considered have been tolerated Olt every individual Nego,
or so returning, should be compelled to state
genuine, and whether those were the views that he ciat
bad taken at the Congress,. respecting the great to Parliament the progress of transactions not
interests confided to him. As to Saxony; it
brought to a close ? There Could be no pre-
IP-
fence for such a ' thing. - He was perfectly -
peared to him, indeed, nothirr,, more than the
Nimble Lord lad stated in that House. aware that nothing he could say would have
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that as to the number , ti
was sure the !loose of Cornmous would feel theny effect on the Honourable Gentleman, but he
Of questions put by o:Adl-D
the Hon. Gean, and the
mode in which they were put, he believed that no value of these oliserVations. To the Honourable -
parallel
could be found in the history of Parlia- Gentleman it wws, no doubt, easier to caltim:.
the country on imperfect documents than on full
ment. At a proper time, he should be prepared Mate his Majesty's Ministers and the Allies of
to justify the whole- of his conduct at the Con-
gress, and the sentiments in that letter. Although information, for experience had Aewo that when .
the letter, as 'it appeared in the papers,was rather i he proceeded an the latter ao one had been less
in a garbled state, and had been retranslated fortunate than the lion. Gentleman in estamidi.
from a translation, yet he would admit the sub-
,ahLtchee. -haghaalifise:,vsl
publicti ch
tinieenl.iaduiehowt:lgshstuipzptt
stance of it, as having been written by liiiri. He
there-
really thought some apology was doe to the noose' fore, that he shottid make no impression on the
.for Ids
_transgressing the common forms with re- -Mind of the Hon. Gentlenan, and he abandooed
ispeet to the production of the papers relative to 1 the hope of preserving the Confidence which it
Genoa: The fact was, that 'the lion. Gentleman was now evident .had -been given to hilt[ by the
having (according to his usual custom) gut hold I lion: Geatkqii4n, Only because he fen that at the
of some garbled statement, took advantage of it moment when it was given he (Lord C.) was un-,
to throw such a cloud of calumny and iniSrepre- assailahle. Having,thus kiveu his confidence,- the
- Hon, Gentleman turned round, and ma 1e his
scotation against the councils of this country,
and against the Sovereigns our Allies, that he was previous candour the gratin(' for asmore virulent
driven by this irregularity into the breach of the assault.. Without metudag any personal disre-
establishedsprinciple, of not publishing partially spect to the Han'. Geode:llan, or any thing un-
any proeeedings in a pending negociation, until parliamentary, he would say, that contemplating
the Whole should he put into a diplomatic 'form, the mode in which the Hon. Gentleman tom lately
fit 'to be laid before Parliament. He could not, thought proper to attack him, and the other Mein-
however,' consent that the abuse of the power of bers •of los Majesty's Government, hue. 'Mist be
Parliament should in future becoine the rule. He conteut to sacrifice the confidence Alich the lion.
had thought it -necessary 'to produce what had t Gentleman bath reposed in him, and ro be guided
been produced,
_merely for the •purpose of pro- solely by his sense
.of public _duty. lie was per-
fectly prepared to defend his Own conduct, and
tecting the character, of this country and. its
Allies, from the injories done by'the Honourable that of the other Members-of the Congress, in a
Gentleman. The regular rule; howeveh, which perliarneotary and leg:'ttorate manner ,_-bat out by
_deviating ;nto that course which the on. Gentle-
he hoped wOuld be adhered to in future, was, that
points which were pot substantially 'decided; or man, with a due regard to his own honour, ought
reduced -to any diplomatic form, shonld not be laid -to quit, and not to continue lower the eharaca
before the Rouse, . ter of his country by unfounded 'and dangerous
, . .
Mr. WHITBREAD [}[ought that the observations
representations, sthich, circulating in Europe,
of the Noble Lord with respect to calumnies on t t
were most prejudicial to that moral influence its
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foreign 'powers were rather ill-timed. An _Ad which the power of Great Britain on the Conti-
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dress had been voted by the House,-in which the neat so essentially'resided.
Noble Lord himself had concurred, and lie had ' Mr. Wr-thriaaaao would make no -further reply-
now come. forward only to complain of an inade- ta the Noble Lord than to say, that in giving up
quate return, The Notsle Lord now seemed un- the confidence which the Noble Lord said that he
willing to give arty information, until the sub- (Mr. W.) reposed in . him, the Noble Lord had
jects had beeo technically and diplomatically given up that which he never possessed. Once
settled by a treaty proper to put on the table of more, reverting to the subject in which the chit-
that House. Ile had asked some vestions about versation which had just taken place had origi-
Saxony, and he thought it fortunate that now and
need) *he observed, that the Address requested,
then the mask slipped a little from the faces of the "an account of the progress made by
the Con-
negociators, and the public comic! judge what they gress at Vienna:' Of this progress no return had
were about.. When the Noble Lord talked of the been made,---Why not ?
ambition and dangerous spirit of Russia, he had, - Lord CASTLEREA.GH asked bow it was possible
sail nothing mote than what he had said in that to make arty circumstantial return on the subject ?
House. It did aohlollow that because -great con, Mr. WHITBREAD.---" Why then did the Noble
fidence was reposed in the Noble Lord when he Lord second toy motion for the Address ?"
was going to the Congress, that the same confi- Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that by the words
deuce shouhl be reposed in him throughout those of the Address the discretion of the Crown- wasao
oegoeiations. If appeared now that he- carried be exercised oti the information to be communi-
out noinstructions-with him to the CongreSs. In- cated. No transfers agreed to at Congress could
the letter which he had
.now avowed in substance, be considered complete till the whole was ratified.
every thing was in the first person. ~ I see'no ob- On the motion of Mr, WHITBREAD, the Clerk -
-jection in point of morality, to Saxony being united read the Address from the Journals.
to Prussia. I see no reason why the King of Saxony Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that all the informa-
should not be severely.ponished, and that state than had been given which could diplomatical});
should not be rpade an example to the lesser States and constitutionally be afforded.
of Germany. I Will not, however, give Saxony, ' Mr. WHITEREAD begged the Noble Lord would
or any part of it, to Prussia, unles's the Prussian dissever the two terms, for they bad nothing to
froutier is also to be strengthened on the side of do with one another. -
Russia." After all this peremptory language, he, Here the conversation dropped,
. Mr. AI, A. TAYLOR postponed the 2d readtbg of the Pay-
however, returned from the Congress re byeeta.
. z, 1 - Bill.
He did not mean to say that nothing was done, fol. ' 'n'
he believed that a great deal of mischief had been
done ; but the Noble Lord returned withont being
able to make any communication' to the Muse of
the good be had done; if any he had done. • The
Noble Lord complained ni the perverted use of
Parliament. He probably supposed, that there
Was no other use for it but to vote such sums of
money as he and his colleagues should propose.
The Noble Lord had spoken of the letter as gar-
bled, and being a re-translation from a transla-
tion. Ile had beard of the noble Lord's long
speeches-at the Congress in'French and in English.'
He would really wish to know, in what language
his compositions were written. ' ..
• Lord CasThstteamt.—ln English. . .
Mr. WHITBREAD answered, If 'that was the
case; and his original' letter had been translated
into Trench, he must 'suppose that, it' ''i'•as re-
translated by,himself.' If this coMpositiou was
set beside his letters upon Genoa, ithtvoold ap-
pear the work of 'the same hand. The Noble
Lord had said, that be Y.,001d not for the future
he provoked to deviate from %Idiot he conceived
the line of his political duty. ';either shOuld. lie
(Mr. W.) deviate from ‘vliEtt he thought ,the. line
of his political duty. . Ile should not deSist• from
attacking Minister• when he thought that they
were in
.the wrong. He should not desist front
asking such information as he thought it neces-
sary for Parliament to have, especially when they
were to be called on this very night, for a vote for
army extraordinaries (includireg subsidies to fo-
teign.Powers) to the amount, as he understood,
of twenty millions. tie thought it very. fortUnate
fot this country, that important papers were often
published 'by other people, before the Ministers

Some conversation occurred between Lord dASTLE-
REAGH arid Mr. PONSONBY,, who desired information
respecting the affairs of Genoa. Mr. P. intended to move for
Lord War. Bentiock's instructions as to his condubt in -the
affairs of Italy.
Lord CASTLER.E.„4,GII did not object to producing his in-
structions as to Genoa.
Mr. PONSONBY Considered the instructions relative to
Sicily interwoven with those regarding the affairs of Italy.
The,Countyltate Bill was poStpoded till Wednesday.
nECLAItATION AT VIENNA.
Sir ;T. 'gAQKINTOSII gave notice of a motion for Tuesday
sennight, respecting the. recent declaration of the Allied
Powers at Vienna.-
Sonic Iristefinance business went through the Committee
of Ways-and Means. Report to-morrow.

COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
• - The ffouse -having resolved itself into a Com-
mittee of supply;
The CHANCELLOR of the EXcHEQUER observed,
that irwould be iiecessary for him to enter into a
few explanations, lest some of the sums included
in the amountile,Was about to move for, mighc
not be sufficientlY.elear in the accounts before the
Hoye; ,he shOuld trespass upon the time of
the House'-as little as possible. From the accounts
eluestion, it would ,he seen that the amount of
the Treasury Bills that iiad been issued for: the
Army 'Extraordittaries 'for 1814 'was very consi-
derable; • but he trusted -that when the arrange-
Ments•vt hich had been in that year for the public
ai'vanta,,F,e were considered, that the -expellees
would be admitted to be indispensable': There
was this difference in the accounts for the last and
'former years, that instead of the Bills for the
Array Extraordinaries being drawn both by the
Paymaster-General and the Commissary-General,
the tvhole of them had been drawn by'tlie latter,
and paid over to the former. Thus though the