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tion to any interest, and not the- proper subject of re-
venue. He (Lord Brougham) thought that a repeal of
such laws would be a great measure of justice to the
people, and the true line .which the law-givers of this
country ought to take, and that it was a . line which the
people of this country ought to expect. , •
' Lord ASHBURTON, thought the Noble Lord' must
either have mistaken the object of the petitioners or the
petition itself, as he said the petitioners were for a total
repeal and not a fixed duty,„
Lord BROUGHAM said. was never more as-
tonished in his life, he • had read • the petition at
length to their Lordships, and how could he make any
misstatements respecting it. The Noble Lord had read
the petition. lie (Lord Brougham) had no objection to
his reading it, though bills were read three times, but
petitions were generally read but once.--44 -laugh.)
When the petition was brought, five or six `gentlemen
accompanied it. They stated that they were satisfied
that the measures of her Majesty's Government would
prove a stepping-stone towards the gaining of a total re-
peal ; and it was with that object that the petition had
been got up.
Lord .ASHBURTON thought that if those were the
opinions of only four or five gentlemen, it was unfair to
the petitioners for the Noble Lord to state those opinions
to the House on presenting the petition. He (Lord
Ashburton) - recollected that when he and his Noble
Friend were in the other Hoirse, his Noble Friend had
supported as strenuously the present protective system of
duties as he was now opposed to. it.
. , Lord BROUGHAM, said that his Noble Friend had
made .uSe of the most extraordinary misstatements he
had ever heard ; for at the time to which his Noble
Friend alluded,, he (Lord Brougham) was not a MeMber
of the 1-I(iitse of. Commons ; he was not there when ,the
debates came on, nor was he in Parliament in 1815. He
never took part in any of those debates, and he could not
tell for whom his Noble Friend had mistaken him, but
he could assure him that he was not in Parliament at the
time.
Lord ASHBURTON said that what made him recol-
lect the circtunstance so well was, that at the time his
Noble Friend made some very severe remarks upon
him.--(Laughter.) -
Lord BROUGHAM said it must have been some
commercial question to which his Noble Friend referred;
most probably it was the Bill brought in by a Noble
Friend of his (Lord Brougham's) relating to the cur-

rency.
Toe Earl of WINCHILSEA said that with respect
to the principles of total abolition of the protective
duties on corn and other necessaries, advocated by. the
Noble and Learned Lord, he would ask how was our
enormous national debt to be paid if protective duties
were to be abolished ? Were not' the leather trade, the
hat trade, and other trades, dependent upon the prospe-
rity of agriculture ? He would repeat, therefore, that if
they abolished the protective duties upon corn, they
might look fin. a total annihilation of the national debt.
After a few words from Lord Brougham, Earl of Wick-
low, and the Marquis of Lansdowne, the subject dropped.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented pe-
titions from Perth and its neighbourhood praying for an
alteration in the present Corn-laws.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented petitions
from places in Kent against any alteration in the'
Corn-laws. . .

The Earl of CHARLEVILLE presented 'a petition
from a place in Ireland to the same effect.
The Earl of STANHOPE presented a petition with a
similar prayer.
Lord ASIIBURTON moved for a return of the quan-
tity of wheat imported into this country in each month
of the years 1838, 1839, and 1840 ; and also since the
Ist of January of the present year ; distinguishing fo-
reign from colonial wheat.—Agreed to.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM moved for an enumeration of
the different petitions for and against the measures pro-
posed by her Majesty's Government, with an enumera-
tion of the signatures to each class of petitions.
The Marquis of SALISBURY wished they should
have, in addition, a statement of the number of signatures
in the same handwriting.
Lord MOUNTCASHEL—And also the number of
crosses.—(A laugh.)
Lord DUNCANNON suggested that there would not
be sufficient time for preparing the returns ; and that it
would be advisable under the circumstances not to per-
severe with the motion.

After some discussion this suggestion was agreed to.
and the motion was withdrawn.

Several Bills were then forwarded a stage, and their
Lordships adjourned until Thursday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 8.

The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four
o'Clock.

On ihe motion of Mr. ESTCOURT, Warrener's Es-
tate Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted.

On the motion of Col. ROLLESTONE, the St. He-
len's Simll Debts' Bill was read a third time and passed.
On the motion of Mr. CHRISTOPHER, the Lincoln
Road Bill was read a third time and passed.
On the motion of Mr. BRODIE the Salisbury Small
Debts Bill was read a third time and passed.
On the motion of Sir J YARDE BULLER Jackson's
Estate Bill was read a third .time and passed.
Lord HOTHAM presented petitions from different
parts of Lincolnshire and Suffolk against the alteration
proposed by her Majesty's Ministers in the Corn-laws.
CAYLEY presented petitions from several pa
rishes in the West Riding of the county of York, against
any alteration in the Corn-laws.
Mr. WM. ROCHE presented a petition from Lime-
rick, numerously signed, against the intended change in
the duties-on Corn and Timber:.

Mr. KEMBLE presentel thirteen petitions from places
in Surrey against any alteration in the Corn-laws ; and
two petitions from Peckham and Lambeth, praying for
Church Extension.
Col. CONOLLY presented several petitions from the
county of Donegal, against any alteration in the Corn-
laws. . .

Mr. DENNIS'rOUN presented forty-one petitions,
praying for an alteration in the Corn-laws.
Mr. WALLACE presented a petition from Renfrew-
shire, and a petition from Greenock, praying for an
alteration in the Corn-laws, and the adoption of the
proposed alteration in the Import Duties.
Mr. EASTIIOPE presented petitions from Leicester,
and from places in Northampton, and Worcester, to the
same effect ; also petitions from Leicester, praying for
the abolition of Church-rates. _

Mr. PACKS presented several petitions against the
Government measure affecting the importation of corn.
Mr. W. TURNER presented a petition from Black-
burn signed by 4,920 persons, praying for a repeal of the
Corn-laws ; also petitions from the different Dissenting
congregations of Blackburn, to the same effect.
Mr. LEADER presented petitioes from the Tower
Hamlets, from several parishes in 'Westminster, from
Spitalfields, and from various other places in the county
of Middlesex ; from Newington-butts, from St. George's,
Southwarlc, and from other places in the county of
Surrey; from Stratford, in Essex; from Scarmouth, and
from Newburgh, in the county of Aberdeen; all most
numerously signed, and all praying for a repeal of the
laws affecting the importation of corn and provisions
generally, to the existence of which the petitioners attri-
buted the present distresses of the country.
Mr. HOME DRUMMOND presented forty-five peti-
tions against any alteration of the,Corn-laws.
Mr. MUNTZ presented a petition from a Dissenting
congregation in Birmingham,. praying the House to aid
the Government in effecting an alteration in the Corn-
laws ; also a petition to the same effect from Henley4n-
Arden, in Warwickshire, praying for a repeal of the
Corn-laws, and stating the opinion of the petitioners that
the effect of those laws was to make bread dear and
money scarce, thus producing a most disastrous effect
upon the currency. • In that opinion he entirely con-
curred, and should therefore move that the petition be
printed. The Hon. Member then brought up the petition.
Mr. SCHOLEFIELI) rose, but was met with loud
cries of " Order, order," from the Tory benches, and,
after in vain attempting to gain a hearing, sat down.
Mr. LEADER rose to order, he thought there must
be some misunderstanding on the subject. The Hon.
Member who had presented the petition,Jiad moved that
it be printed, and he understood that the other Hon.
Member for Birmingham had risen for the purpose of
seconding the moticift4fid he imagined that his Hon.
Friend was perfectly in order in so doing.
The SPEAKER said that when the lion. Member for
Birmingham had brought up the petition he had inti-.
mated to him that he must give notice of his intention
to move that the petition be printed.
Mr. MUNTZ had misunderstood the Speaker's inti-
mation. He would now give notice that to-morrow he
should move that it be printed.
The SPEAKER—The Hon. Member cannot give no-
tice now, he must wait until five o'clock.
Mr. FITZPATRICK presented several petitions from
places in the Queen's County,. in favour of the Govern-
ment measure for an alteration of the duties on corn,
timber, and sugar.
Mr. BROTHERTON presented 15 petitions, signed
petitionspraying for the abolition of the Corn-
laws.ne was from the borough of
by l9,oooofthese persons,
o
wereSalf fbrdro,
msigpanieisdhbes in the county of Buckingham, and
17,500 persons, and four petitions
were signed by farmers and agricultural labourers.
HINDLEY presented nine petitions in favour of a
repeal of the Corn-laws from Ashton-under-Lyne, signed
by 4,500 persons ; • from Warrington, by 4,200 persons ;
from Ardenshaw, in the county of Lancaster ; and from
various other places in the Counties of Lancaster, Ches-
ter, and Buckingham. Also a petition from Ashton in
favour of the Drainage Bill.
Mr. VILLIERS presented the following petitions for
the total repeal of the Corn-laws :—From the borough of
Wolverhampton, signed .by
,12,800 ; 'fromßowley, in
Staffordshire, signed by 3,0001- from Chesham, in Bucks,
signed by 1,800 ; from Kirriemuir, in Forfarshire,
signed by 1,980 women ; six from different counties in
North Wales ; and seven petitions from different. agri,
cultural parishes in the county of Buckingham, chiefly
signed by agricultural labourers.
Mr. THORNELY presented a petition, agreed; on at
a public meeting of the working classes held at Liver-
pool, praying for a total abolition of the Corn-laws. The
onngoppeoolyp,leanofdWol
meeting was one of the largest ever held in that town, hav-
inge
efertoinl gn
been attended by upwards of 10,000 persons. The
tions
proceedings had been entirely in the hands of the
labouring classes ; and the chairman, a working man,
had signed the petitiroeenesffeonenetetd.beshoa,elt:
a(l)fpettlii
(Cheers.) Also a petition
tohfattheevweroyrkmi
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habitants of Manchester, complaining of great suffering
espe-
cially the monopoly in food, may be abolished ; also a
and distress, and praying
petition from the Licensed victuaiiet7s carrying on busi-
ness in the towns of Manchester and Salford-, praying
that they may be exempted from the liability to distress
for rent, as far as regards their Neer barrels.
Mr. EWAIIT presented petitions front ,Liverpool,
Spitalfields, Holborn, the Timer Hamlets, Bethnal-
green, Blv.kfriars, and other pills of the Metropolis,
li*nst al* present Cum jaws.