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London, England, 1824-05-07 00:00:00

SILK TRADE.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE presented a petition from the
Silk Manufacturers and Throwsters of the City of DUhlin, com-
plaining of the existing. restrictions upon the Silk 'Trade, and
stating that their sufferings under those 'restrictions compelled
them to leave their parishes, and to seek employment else-
where.—Read and laid on the table.
HYDE-PARK CORNER.

Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from William Cob-
bett-against the Bill before the House for improving the Road
near Hyde-park Corner. The petitioner particularly objected
.to the Preamble of the Bill as containing false allegations. He
(Lord Holland) • was friendly to the object of the Bill, but in
order that the subject should•be duly inquired into, should
move that the petition should 'be referred to • the Committee
on the Bill.—Ordered.

- Viscount CLIFDEN presented a-petition' from the parish
of St. Patrick, in the City of Kilkenny, 'praying for an altera-
tion in the Tythes' System.—Laid on the table.
NEWFOUNDLAND.

The Order of the Day having been reed" for going Into a
Committee on the Newfoundland Judicature Bill,

Earl-BATHURST said that he had adopted the suggestion
of the Noble Baron opposite (Lord Holland) and divided-the
:Bill into two, one of which would relate Solely to the admini-
stration of justice, and the other to the celebration of marriage
:in Newfoundland. He also proposed to nlake considerable
alterations in the provisions of the' measure. As they stood in
the Bill before the House, the Circuit Courts were to try all
criminal cases with a Jury, fast not civil ones. He should now
propose to extend the trial by Jury to civil cases. When a
sufficient number of individuals should not be -found to form a
Jury, the Judge and three Assessors would try the case in cri-
minal cases, no-person to be found guilty unlesi the Judge and
two:Assseisors should be agreed as to his guilt. In civil cases,
the Judge should decide without any 'assessors and an-appeal
would lie in the Supreme Court at St. John's. 'The appeal,- in-
deed, would lie both in criminal and in civil cases; but whilst
in the former it would embrace questions of, taet and law, in
the latter it would be confined to questions of law.
Lord HOLLAND offered his acknowledgments to the Noble
Earl, for having adopted his suggestion as to the division Of the
Thenmendments also seemed to be on the best principle,
but he suggested the propriety of the asseisOr4 performing en-
tirely the 'functions of Jurors (in the absence of a sUfficient
number of persons to form a Jury), and giving a verdict sepa-
rate from the Judge, instead of one in conjunction with him.
Improved as the-Bill had been however, it vas not yet such a
one as would answer all purposes. Thateould only be done by
the establishment of a Constitutional Assenibly.
Earl BATHURST was understood to say, that the condi-
tion of Newfoundland was not fit for a Constittitional As-
sembly, and that he should always oppose the establishment
of one. He also thought that to allow the ASsessers to
act entirely as Jurors, would be to introduce a new plinth-
' pie in the administration of Justice, without knowing where
it might stop.
Lord HOLLAND observed, that ingenuiti ?tight easily ob-.,
vista the difficulty, by finding some other name for them which
should neither be that of Assessors nor Jurors.
The House having then resolved itself into a Coin-unlace,
amendments BATHURST moved various amendents to sh'ee't
the alterations which he had proposed. They were agreed
to, and the first Bill was ordered to be Called, " An Act for
the better Administration of Justice in Newfoundland. 7...-
: With respect to the second Bill, to regulate the Celebration of
Marriage in the same Colony, the Noble Earl said that he
should only propose the amendments now, move that they be
printed, and then fix Tuesday next for explaining their nature
, to the House.

This having been agreed to, the House reSumed, the Report
was received, and the amended Bill ordered to be printed.
Lord STANLEY and others from the Commons, brought up
'mural private Bills, which were read a first time.—Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
.• STANDING ORDERS.

On a petition for ~.;;,071ailirra,;;;Ka;---o" Bill, a discus.
sion arose respecting the Standing Orders which provide for
Notices on Private Bills, It was proposed to suspend those
Standing Orders on account of the emergency of the case. This
suspension was opposed by
Mr. BRIGHT, who said, that the frequent applications for
suspensions of this nature rendered the Orders nugatory.
The Suspension was opposed also by Mr. Alderman Smith,
Mr. H. Sumner, Sir James Graham, General Gascoyne, and
Mr. Alderman Heygate ; and supported by Mr. Lawley and
Mr. Ellice ; but the petition for the Bill was withdrawn, in
consequence of the opposition.
Mr. BRIGHT then proposed a Resolution, declaring that
the House would abide by the Sta
ndirig Orders, unless in ex.
treme cases ; but he at length withdrew the Resolution.
CITY BONDS'.

Mr. Alderman WOOD obtained leave to bring in Bills to
enable the City of London to reduce the Interest of their Debt,
by raising money to pay it off.
Col. DAWKINS presented a petition from Lynn against the
Sunderland Coal Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table.

JOINT STOCK COMPANIBS":
Sir JOHN NEWPOIt'r moved the second reading of the
Royal Hibernian Mines Bill.
Mr. HUSKISSON objected to the Bill, as proposing altera-
tions of the.law ; and (against bur constitutional policy) favour-
ing the creation of Joint Stock Companies. If the House were
to grant incorporations to all persona who, as traders chose to
ask for them, they would alter the whole of the Commercial
Law.. If persons chose to engage in speculation they must do
so at the risk of bankruptcy, Sm. under all the liabilities 'which
attend individuals. There were no less than four Bills similar
to the preser.i. before the House; - and he should object to every
one of them if they contained clauses like this.
Sir JOAN NEWPORT said- the objection -of the Right
Hon.. Gentleman, if it were good, applied to every Canal Corn.
pug, and ninny other companies: The Bill might be altered
and be less.objeetionable as it went on.
_ELLICE agreed in the observations .f the Right 'lan.
Gentleman, (Mr. Huskisson), and recommended that Minis.
tens should clearly state what views they had ore these subjects,
to save many 'parties the expence of applying to Parliament,
without. souT.ctis.
Mr. I)AWSON thought the general objection did not ap.
ply to the present Bill, which was to encourage the transfer of
British caeital to Ireland.
Sir J. NEWPORT then postponed his motion for the second
reading of. the Bill.
Lord STANLEY moved the second reading of the Equitable
Loan Bill. _ _

r.IIIiSKISSON took the'same objection to this Bill as to
the last.; and after a few words from Mr. D. Baownr, the
second reading was postponed.
Mr. J. SMITII presented a petition from the Australian
Company, praying that they might be incorporated.
On the motion for referring the petition to a Committee',
General GASCOYNE opposed the motion on the ground
stated by Mr: Huskisson.
Mr. HUSKISSON said, he did not object to its being re-
ferred to a Committee.
Mr. J. SMITH supported /he motion.. The:Company, he
said, had a laudable object in view-, principally the cultivatiiin
of wool grown in New South Wsiles, which was the finest in
the world.

Sir ISAAC COFFIN opposed the motion.
The SPEAKER said, the Stinding Orders as, to tlie notio;
did not apply to Bills likeLthat whith'vra's ttritenipl*d'by the '
petition. It was a sessional order only which stood in its 'way

which sessional order merely limited the time for bringing in
Private Bills.
General CT ASCOYNE Withdrew his opposition, and the pe-
tition was then referred to a Committee.
ST. KATHERINE'S DOCK.
Mr. Alderman WOOD Pres'ented a petition from the Water-
mens' Company against the Katherine's Dock Bill ; and ano-
ther against the Thames Tunnel 'Bill.—Referred to the Com-
mittee on the Bills.

Mr. Alderman HEY GATE-presented a petition from several
Inhabitants of St. Katherine's against the St. Katherine's Dock
Bill. They stated that onlyseven persons resident in that dis-
trice had signed the petition in favour of the Bill ; that the
House ha& therefore been imposed upon, and they prayed that
the subject might be inquired into.
Lord STANLEY -observed to the Hon. Member for Sus-
sex; 'that this practice aPpeared not to be confined to the Nor-
them Counties as that Hon: Member had inferred on a former
occasion. -
After a few words from. Mr. CURTEIS, the petition, and a
similar one from the Armburers and Braziers Company were
referred to the Committee on the Bill.
EXCISE LICENSEE.
petition from Stockport against
the M
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LicenseONDpitr
Duty,
presented a
and
another to the same effect from
Runcome.