The Sun.
London, England, 1841-04-06 00:00:00

EVENING EDITION

were of the dietaries in some of the unions.
o ask, ow,
la would was destitution to be
c esidered one thing in the City of London,
..ed another thing in different parts of EaVand ? He
hell greet complaints to make against the Poor-law
Commissioners, and if tie House did its duty, it
would cad the Poor-law Commissioners to the bar, and
compel them to explain these dietaries. In many of
the unions water-gruel was the chief diet. New,
wiliA took place in the Kensington union? Why, last
Christmas when the paupers were allowed something
extra, the auditor of the Poor-law Commissioners dis-
alewed the expense, and the guardians were obliged to
ply the amount out of their own pockets. In the City
of London union the dietary tabie for male and female
adults was as follows :—On Sundays, for the me:),
seven ounces of bread, and a pint aid a half of milk
porridge for breakfast ; for dinner seven ounces of
cooked meat, beef or mutton, with three querters
of a pound of vegi t Iles, and one pint of
b.2er, a thing entirely withheld and denied in the
Puor-ltw Unions of the country. For supper
seven ounces of bread, 'one ounce and a half of
clo_ese, and a second pint of beer. The women have
Eve ounces of bread, one pint of beer (this was in an
union in which the order far withholding oat door
:chef had not been issued) and one ounce of butter
for breakfast, six ounces of good teat for dinner,
c • (latters of a pound of vegetable 3 and ore pint of
veer,—and for supper five ounces of bread, one eurkce
of cheese, and one plat of beer. It was unnerkv.:sary
t) trouble the House with all, but there was the
tame' a!l..wanca on Tuesdays and Thursdays, and on
bifurda3s they were alio:red fourteen ounces of suet
pudding. Thus they had sees the adult men and
o omen in Ch's union had beer every day for dinner and
sup! e-. Did he complain of it ? Did he say they ought
pot to have it? No such thing. He beltevA it Was a
just and equitable scale. But why was it not allowed
:0 the poor in toe unions in the country? The Noble
1,-nal could not, perhaps, be expected to give a
o_o,;sfact ,ry ezidanation, but he thought the House
have the Commissioners at the bar to explain
\Nu), such a difference was eAablishel by the rules they
is.ued. He now came to the notice respecting the sick
infirm, respecting whom it was presided that they
s'aoild have such wine and other necesaarics, as the
ooelical attendant should direct.—( Hear, bear.) If
lion. Members cried " Hear, bear," with respect to
L olden, would they do so with respect to the country?
these regulations, roast veal or pork was allowed at
',oster and Whit Sunday, and roast beef and plum-
-oldding at Chiistmas-day. Now this seemed framed
4y. Englishmen, by men who did not desire that poverty
tieeuld be punished as a crime. He asked Gentlemen
r- ho thought the -scale he bad just read was a just one,
'hy it should not be adopted e:sewhere ? If particular
epors were to be selected for the exercise of benevolence.
he thought it should be in the country district?. This
was a serious question, and one that ought not
to be shirked by the House. If it were, it would not
be shirked by the country. He did net desire to charge
the Commissioners with having acted in a manner that
was &Al:Leant, to obtain support in the City of London,
but, teeing the wanner in which tlic citizens of London
'workhouses- were dieted, and contrasting it with the
country, he said that it required some explanation. It
was urged continually that the object of the law was to
rake the labourer independent. That was undoubtedly
a desirable object, but how did the Commissioners carry
it out ? By keeping the dietary one degree above star-
vation point. How could wages be raised, if this system
was pursued ? He hoped the Noble Lord would see
the necessity of having this dietary table more diffused
throughout England. He had no motion to submit to
t':e House upon the subject, but he had thought it his
duty to bring the subject before the House. He had
another rab'e of the manner in'which the children were
farmed at Norwood, but he would not then trouble the
House with it.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL declined to enter icto a
discussion on the subject at the present momept. as it
rns his intention to postpone the Bill till after Easter.
He would not now introduao the clauses of which he
hlit given notice, bat would reserve them till after
tlic recess, when the Bill had gone through Commit-
tee. He thought that was the only course which
cull be properly adopted. It was his intention to
-,:,70p05e that the Bill should remain as it was till after
the recess, and that the Committee should be resumed
on the 3d of May.
Mr. GOULBURN thought it would have saved a
great deal of trouble, and been more convenient to
!IL: House, if the clauses had been introduced at the
oieqent moment.

Colonel SIBT I-10RP said he was determined, after
the recess, to move for the returns of which he had
given notice relative to Coroners.

Mr. FOX MAULE had done all he could to ob-
tain the returns; be bad written to the different
Coroners in tho country, and be had only received
answers from very few. He was afraid that it would
be found to be very difficult to obtain the returns.
Mr. WAKLEY believed that it would be almost
impossible to make out the returns. Ho thought the
best way would be for the Hon. and Gallant Member
t 3 move for returns in certain cases.

Colonel SIBTHORP would bo happy to adopt
wly suggestions that would meet the object he had in
view, and he would take care and frame his motion ac-
cordingly.

The-House then wenA into Committee proforma, and
further consideration of the Bill in Committee was
-,--,stponed to the 3d of May.
TRADE OF BRITISH POSSESSIONS.

On the Ilouse going into Committee on the trade of
British possessions,

Mr. LABOUCHERE rose to reove.tho following
resolutions :

"1. That in lieu of the respective duties of 71. 103., of
131., of 201, and of 304, on every 100/. of the value of
certain of the articles specified in the schedule conta.n:'d
in an Act of the third and fourth year of William IV, to
regulate the trade of the British possessions abroad,
there shall be paid on goods, wares, and merchandize,
ot being the growth, production, or manufacture of the
United Kingdom, or of any of the British possessions in
America, and imported by sea or by inland carriage or
tav'gation, a duty of 71. for every 100/. of the value
thereof, together with the amount of any duty levied
at the same time upon goods, wares, and merehandize
t'Le growth or production of the United Kingdom, or of
the British possessions.
2. That in lieu of the several duties payable under
Cie said Act upon the following articles, not being the
growth, production, or manufacture of the thiitrd
Kirgdom, or of any of the British possessions in
..-Itnelica imported or brought into any British plisses.
soon by sea, there shall be paid the following duties,

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Wheat flour (except into Canada), the barrel....fo 2 0
Beef and pork, salted (except into Canada), tha
eat.
Wire of all Loris, whether in bottl3 or not, f:r
every 100/. of the value, in Feu of all duties
row payable then on, under the Acts 4 Goo.
111. c. 15, and 3 and 4 Will. IV. c. 59 7 10 0
Tr:o beaks
Shit gles (except it:to Canada), the 1,000 No OF2
e• 0
Oak staves and hc a Ings (except into Canada),
the 1,000 N 0...
.. . 0 7 0
Weed hoops (except into Canaan,) the 1,000
No.
Ptch pine, and ether lumber, one-inch thick 02 6
(except into Canada), the 1,000 fret .O 7 0
Now FrohibiteJ, but the prohibition whereon is to
cease :
Fab, dried or salted, the cwt.
—, pickled, tLe barrel
0 5
Together with the amount of any duty I.:vied at the
-i-tive time upon simihr articles, the prodwe of, or im-
ported from, the United Kingdom or the British pos-
sessions.

" 3. That tea be permitted to to imported into Brithh
North America by inland carriage or navigatior, on
lAymert of the duty which may at that time teiom; to.charge-
alde upon tea imported from the Uni:cd Kingdom,
gether with 101. per centuiti on the amount of such duty.
"4. Tact rum, the produce of places within the
boas of the East India Company's Charter, and um-
potted into British North America, shall ray the same
ltuty as rum the produce of places ia the British Wctt
ladies.
" 5. That so much of the said Act as permits any sort
of ersTt, food, and victuals, except spirits and any sort
at. Clothing and implements and materials fit and ne•
ceissry for the British Fishnies in America to be im-
ported into the place at or from whence such fishery
is carried en, duty free; shall Fe repea::d, except ,o ter
:as regards the following articles (that is to say), bread,
11, ur, pork, beef, bacon, butter, lard, cheese, molasses,
(the produce of the British possessions), potatoes, oat-
meal, pot•barhy, Indian meal, peas, rice, salt, oak-staves,
,hingle:,, wood hoops, leather and leatherware, and all
sorts of fishing craft and bait, fishermen's clothing and
hosiery, which shall be delivered duty free, for the use
of the fisilerie...
"6. That goods, the produce or manufactu: e of
the Wands cf Guernsey, Jersey, Alderney, or
Sark, imported from such Islands, be admitted into the
British possessions in America upon the payment of the
same duty as the like goods the produce or manufac-
ture of the United Kingdom, or any of the said pos-
t cessions." _

Member said that having entered so fully
into the subject on a former occasion, he shuu!d netce-
cupy the House at any great length. He had made an
:iteration in the amount of reduction since he first
brought the subject More the House. He had then
Koposed that the ad valorem duties which were
levied on the West Indian and North Ame-
rican colonies, varying from 7i- to 10, 20, cud
30 per cent. should be.k reduced to two duties,
unrnt (3, a duty cf seven and :t'half per cent., and a duty
of ten. per cent. ad valorem. Ia consequence of repro
senta ins which bad since been made to hi.n, he proposed
to substitute one uniform duty of seven per cent. ad v°l9-
)%;n1 ; thus placing those colonies upon the slate footiag as
cor Eastern possessions. He did not see why if the
',tem had worked writ in the East, it should not work
well also in the West Indies, and in British North Ame-
rica. It had teen strongly urged by gentlemen connected
with the %Vest Indite, that important benefits would ac-
crue from the proposed alteration. With respect to Tii-
nidad, in particular, it was said that under a duty of seven