The Sun.
London, England, 1840-07-16 00:00:00

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,TEVING EDITION.

F
4DITI()N information,
would do so bemuse of the want of
Is yet they would take the only memo' to prevent it
JUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock • from h..itig supplied. Tii-ere was plenty of tim for the
coesider,zion of the ease, and he trusted the House
the PI would refer the to a Committeta
Sir R. INGLIS—T:w. Hoo. Member for Filishury
I stated that was ignorant of the facts of the ease tae--`
FROM ?lira ItFENING PAPERS of TIM DAY. fore the Hone. Why then shou!tl he refuse inquiry
(From the Globe.)
h,fo
Mr. Kelly's Bib for the substitution of secondary re the proper Libanal, visa a Committee? Ile also
putistement in all cases (except murder and treason) said they would rob the Church of 47.0001. a•S ear.
Now, that was not so. It the present Bishop of 'Ca'
to which the penalty of capital punishment is sill
lisle should live so long as 27f years be would lose
affixed by the law, last night passed into Committee, I
i 47,0001. a-year, but, unless they identified him with
alter an ineffectual attempt on the part of the Atter- the Church would remain unaffected by
ney-General to induce the Honourable and Learned the Church'
the Bill.
Gentleman to postpone the Bill till next Session.
Captain PECHELL was not surprised at the eon-
This reluial we ratgret ; not because we are hostile to
duct of the Right lion. Baronet on the present occa-
the objects, with certain and very few exceptions, which
siren, knowing the course he pursued with regard to the
the 13,11 is designed to secure ; but because we fear
F:enham Rectory Bill. It appeared to him that the
that those objects will be defeated by the apprehensions
Bill was an interference with public property, and the
which many Members will entertain, that the rapid
same arguments might be applied against the present
manner in which the clauses of the Bel have been
Bill as against the Farnham Rectory Bill. Now the
passed through Committee has prevented careful eza-
latter Bill had gone through a Committee, and
minatinn of its probable effects ; and thus cause the
was to bc reported to-morrow night, and he asked the
Bill to be thrown out at some future stage of its progress.
Right lion. B mulct to consent to the postponement of
Tee Bill itself, as it passed into Committee, illustrates
the present Bid, until th-y had ascertained what was the
our rimming, and confirms our fear*. The baste with
teellrg of the House with regard to the Farnham Rec•
which it is urged through Parlament at this advanced
tory Bill. It appeared to him that the Bishop of Car-
period of the session, and in the exhausted and impa-
tient-state of feeling in which the few Members who re- lisle, not being a consenting party to the Bill, more time
attention to should ho given for enquiring itito its details.
main in town are found, atter the close
Mr. DARBY said it appeared to him that the Farn-
parliarreattry duties which the public business of
ham R+ dory Bill was based upon a totally different
the country has esaated—excites, we confess, our serious
principl, from •lie presmit measure.
-apprehensions lest the Bill, if it pass hen a law, should oe
Sir S. LUSH I NGTON was also of opinion that
found crude and incomplete, unworthy of its author, dis-
the Bill differed essentially from the Farnham
creditable to the legislature, and injurious rather than
Rect. ry Bill. lie confiosed that lie bid some diffi-
beneficial to soc'eiy,
cu'ey iu uclieving that the present was by any means
as ad,aittaaeous bargain for the Church. lie did not,
however, reran to vote for the amendment et his Hon.
Friend, because he thought the olik,ctioos which had
been urged could be just as satisfactorily dim: U3SO4 in
Committee. He thought it extremely itijimieiees to
give up public property to the amount of 47,0001. per
annum for the sake of a sum of 200,000/., more espe-
cially when he consids red that in tweet)-seven years
that property would be worth 1.200,0001. It was not
wise, in his opinion. to make such a sacrifice.
Mr. GOULBURN sail he should vote for go:ng
into Comaiiittee on much the same grounds as the Hon.
Member for the Tower Hamlets. He had offer-esti-
mated the future value of-the property, but be concurred
with him that the Bill should go into Committee.
The House then divided, and the numbers were—
For the m0ti0n..... 65
For the amendment
Majiirita
The Shuttleworth &tate Bill was read a third time.
The Report of the Committee on the Surewsbury
and Holyhead Road Bill was broteiht up.
NOTICES OF MOTION.
Captain PEG HELL gave notice of his intention, in
the Committee on the County Constabulary Bill, to
move amendments to the 20th clause.
Mr. ESTCOURT gave notice that ttomorro.e he
Alould move ter a Committee to revise the Standing
Orders of the House.
Lord SAN DON gave notice that to-rnorrove, on the
Order of the I), .y .or the House going into Coottnittre
it Supply b ing rent, he should &It the
attention e.f the
House to the state of our commercial rela.t:eus with
Portugal.
RATING STOCK IN TRADE.
Mr. WILSON PATTEN wish. d to know tahc-
tlt the R.tiog Stock in Trade Bill would come on
to-night.
Tl:tz ATTORNEY-GENERAL was noxious ti
with the Bail a. speeeia- possible, hut he
laired there was no chance of its tvitig brought fair
ward to n ;:ht or to-morrow night, but as the Him—
would prof) Ay it on Saturday—X;les of No, nu') at
might he brought no on that, di.e,
Mr. GOULBURN objected to the Bill being
takan on Saturday.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL hoped tae R:glit
Hon. Gentleman would not object to take the Bel on
Saturday, as it was of itnpottence that the detact in the
taw should he rimedool .is speedily as p„„eee,
Mr. GOU LBU RN hoped the amender tit to Pea-
lett Serope's Act woulei Lot he considered until the Biii
of the lion. and Learned aititlem in had been
posed of.

PIIIIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.

(From ff,e Courier.)
The Punch and Judy affair of O'Connell and Mel-
bourne takes up somewhat more of public attention than '
its merits wouid require. We, as observers, are obliged
to notice their aloe. ments, and this is a task teem the
performance of which we should feel most grateful to
any person who would be at the trouble of reteasiti us.
The gentleman to whom we allude has held one of
fibesie meetings in Dublin which under a properly regu-
iged Government could not possibly he cunvened for
the treasonable purpose of disuniting the kingdom. Need
see say, !hat at any former period—under any other than
a bed-chamber Atnistry—ouch an intention would have
teen visited with a high penalty ? It is the fashion
this day, under the mild and philosophical dominion
of the Whigs, to bestow mercy upon the foul crimi-
el: and to visit the committer of a simple misdemeanor
with all the horrors that a Whig-conducted gaol
can allow ; but cf all those state prisoners, whom
her M:ijesty''s Ministers hold in custody, is there one
belf or quarter so guilty as the person to whom we
.oilude? This gentleman, Mr. O'Connell, continually
reties the cry of a reperAl of the Union, of that which
evonej,;reservcs his-country in a rank in the scale of ei-
rii:sA fillips. Were this to rest solely with Mr.
Wt.:emu:l4lnd his stupid followers we should not care,
Jr.o enter! mete:ly a vast MISS of the Irish population
a 4 the bulk of them are—do wee Om
to be a sort of Sir William Courtenay.
( From the Standard.)
ikt :le repeal meeting hell in the Roman Catholic
ei 'mines. on Tuesday, Mr. O'Connell hail
Lee "teeiehing cm:dour to confess, that the vexatious
eshs:ruviioes thrown in the way of Lord S an!ey's
eo other than we hate repeated!) describ, d them
Oec of t'.e :esters read 014 day bad ailed d." he haul.
"fo t•••o ttc,o,y obiaini d cv, r 1/04 b.t4nie.Y." Run's No
vie-reel it Wag rherrly a sotpcn....fort of :it was
:rirtmph ; only show: d that tivy !.ad tlone. thei, tiwy
feivraitty it when they could not defeat it. Hut i 1 tx9x
fitrl7.ani. being a victory ; they had reridereii
ti=,! ti = lik:i b • c:rrt•il a 1-w ti•i:
:iession. It was by ki!l;eog time, by the clock alone, that
Lord Stanley was ectelacill"
So Lir, therefore, the keeper of the -conic encrs of
hrr Miuti-tern is at variance with the Eng-
lish familiar:e who do their fiddlier. The Chrott cle
it;sist that Lard Statiley'i withi:‘4w4l of his Iliti
a •dgaiii dote4t. Ile Globe follows on :be same side.
Bee lei! the was (r of, their masters sas it is vv sueli
teeng, and for once in hi, We speaks the truth. 01
sviee. new cal.im.vy such a prothey is the forerun-
ner it is diftLtutt to cor,ceive. Ile says correctly
tea igh that their Lwittid Whig triumph is no vic-
low, and that iir and his proteges have hut " re-
tertf-el that which they could not defeat."—lle com-
p-a-es the Imperial Parliament toe set of str-et pick-
pockets, and adds that hid the Bill been really (Ideate('
ti-? Irish people ttould Imve owcri no more thanks to
1' Ailment than would be due to at gani of swithilt rs
rrsfliting an attack upon their pockets! As for
eeeestepation, it had been u,cful to the rich, hut hail
lone swilling for the poor ! He bad, he said, been
elierget! by the Orange press with having ulterior ill.-
ic(e, ; that he bud ! He had the restora-
tion of the j-i.. 41 Parliament in view.

CHINA.

On the tulgeAtion of Lard JOHN RUSSELL,
Mr. G. PALMER pOstponed the quebtion of which
he had ;it en notice, relating to the repr4als oa Chin,i, to
Tuesday next.

lAi PAR AMENT.

(TOS EVENLI'G.)

110 USE u 1• COMMONS,
The SPEAKEtt twit the Chair shortly before Fuur

SHOP OF CARLISLE'S ESTATE BILL.

);: the motion of Mr. KEMBLE, this Bill %as
a second time, ani on the question that it be com-

Mr. DUNCOMBE rose to oppose the motion. The I
."t tuatetially affected the interest of his constituency,
t it was impossible, therefore, that the Hous; could
it to pass without understanding the merits
details of the measure. He could not understand
it had been kept back so long, and why it was
be forced on at the present period of the Session,
'.vhcn it was impossible there would be time sufficient to
~:cuss its provisions in Cmcmittee. Now what was
object of the present measure? It was to permit
the aide of the estate belonging to the Prebend's Still
.3 St. Paul's Cathedral, the property of the Bi-
Tfie value of that Stun was
A-year, for which the only duty to be
by that Bishop, was preaching two sermons
Ttte ?resent B shop had wanted a lease of
„ • torh:At 27kyears were unexpired, to
11 -4 the 'Bid was to enable the sale
be city of 1:onoon, at.
whole
pi
opicrty to
t.a-e .. city fora sum =' oi
_-to 000/.
to me present Lit hop of
'tt,oool. of winch was to go
to be paid to the
and the remainder was
ut
,f„hiretTouttriii,ti
Nrs 01 Q teen Anne's bounty,
girds b.l tilki.ot out of tho. t•
• • t is t 4 LontiO!'. to
eQ I,ow
iti".n 19
IL as he in ould 'lo'o4 prorer.
I,iat apprepr.,
d nut see
rli (3,1 r. Dom:f.o.b. I . s
wh; :mid) a distrot
be shown 44' "'l•~ alt •
t the B-li thy' It• 04%
real scel • -- 4'. L ,
„, •
!hied to fiefc.A. tbe tit I" Ecclesiastic '
Revonne,: b.:llig thi. ceie
nciulit rue no reason why the .4,11 :41.0,1!41, be passed
ugh the ilonse duk-iets the prt-.5.-.'it aml
nio%c thAt the B II shot.i;. IN commit ten
tibial cal thr,e mouth,
Mr. W ARLEY seem.d,iii the motion.
KEmLLE could sic ,slO w.,y in which the
at the eoostituents ot M, mber would
be ~ff;.,.•,*ed by the Bill. II: c..rta.M'y app. tired to he
acqulinted with the sect ets of the Bill, which lie
,mr. I;,,,,,nthic) was riot, as the Gast word
a ith respect to the measure was
"e"rs •
he'4ll he wits asked to move the second re Id.
yesterciai, WA., •.1
•e woug.,h t that which bird beim suit d
ing of the Pill. L.
snowed the nrce,sit), for its being
by the Hen. '..N•letube., The obj .tt of the Bit was
retell.; dto a Coninuttee. •
indon and for Archbishop
to enable 'the Bishop of L. bale of toen ps.operty to
r:;Canterbury to en t r into the - 44) apply tae tliCney
Corporation of London, and
e mills tier tit
the endowinei.t of eittirelits •i
miiisttr, and
of St. Pau.'s and five miles cast of 11,,
- 'e amount
according to the provi-ions of the 80, the w. Leif,
of any endowment was not to exceed 300/. lie s
lberefore, that the House VCOUid Allow a 13:11.
inch I oola;,le -us in view, to peoceed.—( Hen: •)
Mr. WAKLEY secoloed the motion. Wbcre, hZ
wz-naid ask, was the necessity for bur v sit tin! matter
there were tweaty-seven aNd a halt years unexpired of

r,

kase affecting this property, yet the Bit wets broualit
,in at the very er Cl of the Session, when it could not p
receive that fu'-1 consideration wbieb one eff-etic
sn4rL e.n amount of properly ought to do. Ile wa):
as ..rug a friend of the Courch as the Right Hon.
baronet opposite. He thought it was an inAitution
that was a real blessing to the country. He had
never grudged it the tithes it possessed. He was glad
it did possess such an amount, but here, by the Bill
then under discussion, he was called upon to alienate
from it a propertp whi.:ll, when the lease expired, would
produce 47,5001. per annu.n ; and he was called upon
to legislate upon the Bill in total ignorance of all the
Facts of the case. It was net fair, either to the House
or to the public, and there was no reason for such
baste. At all events delay it till next Ses.ion, and during
the recess Members night have an npportu6ty of m tking
himself acquainted with all facts relating to the property.
it appe tred to him to 5e an unjust proposal, and even
if the Bib went into Committee it was - mpossittle that
it could pass during, the present session. H, %mild dot say.
it was a job, but .t bore so great an aspect of a job that. he
vould cot ;or a moment agree to it its then ariviscd. It
st was an opcn and lair measure why was the sale to he
concluded in the dark--why was all to be done by pri-
vate contract? Why should not the property ite put
up to public :nt'on ? His was aware that '200,000E.
but t Iv y were s i-
-1•7" to be paid as the pu .ehase money,
e.rificiog art income of 47 0001. for one of otty 7,0001.
He trus- eel the House sou d not agree to piouLed
with the Bill ituvitrz the pres- nt session.
Mr. VRESHFIELD believed that in a few son-
tences he could obviate ail the ohjectioos the 11""-
Gentlk man Lial to the I3ill. It w.t. true that tht pro-
perty wound prottuce an income of 47.500 at the coil
of twet,t3-seven-antra-!tall sears, but that would be only
iirovidett that some p:irty had such an interest la the.
proj,erty as to keep it in good repair. He could assure
the House that
there was intorotidere,. in the ba-
-
gilt), et r we,ul I the Church r any d•initt4,! for the
cfvfl prcs.-ct valet of the mimic pToricrty wa,‘ to
"be ,!grid down. I%lLtn2iers voiaig for the atueodatcnr.