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INLAND NAVIGATION OF IRELAND.

Sir J. NEWPORT begged leave to call the atten-
tion of the House to le subject of the inland na-
vigation of Ireland, as managed by Commissioners
appointsd wilder an Act of Parliament. The evils
of which -he complained eNisted in the system„ not
in the Commissioners. He stated that out of
179,000/. which was expended under their direc-
tion, 76,9401. was appropriated to their own sa-
laries and those of the Engineers, and that exclu-
siVe of those to the Engineers, their own salaries
amounted to 57,000/. He 'concluded with inov-'
ing a string of resolutions recording these facts,
and' proviii4t that the works should in fa-
tare be coaducted Ira the Treasury Board of Ire-
land. •
Mr. W. Pot.a, said, from the' statement of the
Right Honourahle Baronet, he did not know.
whether he meant to blarhe the Government or'
the Commissioners ; the former had only com-
plied with an Act of Parliament, authorizing the
appointment of three Comm;ssioaers, and fixing
their Salaries ; therefore he did not see how any
iMputation could be thrown' upon the Govern.
meet ; and with respect to the 'Commissioners;
he called upon the Right Hon. Baronet to point
any one instance in which he 'thought they had
neglected their duty, or acted improperly;
„he
'would Cheerfully concur in voting for the produc-
tion of any documents that might be necessary
to elucidate the case, and would be ready to meet
the Right Hon. Baronet in the charge. He
really believed, that there was no Public Board,
the business of which was conducted in a manner
more advantageous to the public.. than this very
Board. With regard to the venerable Chairman
of that Board, Mr. Sackville Hamilton, a more
able, diligent, and honourable public officer did
eNdst, The Right Hon. Baronet had stated, that
the Act of Parliameut under which this Board
was appointed, was calculated to make then' ne-
glect their duty, by making it their
..interest to
keep the public money in their hands as long as
possible. He begged to state distinctly to the
House, in justice to the Gentlemen composing
this Board, that they were not actuated by any
such motives ; for, if all the Clans which they had
submitted to Government, for laying out the
money gr&nted for Inland Navigation, had been
adopted, . the whole of, it would have been ex-
pended, and the Board could.not now have been
in existence. The Right, Hon. Baronet seemed
to think that this Board had "but little duty to
perform, but in that he was coMpletely mistaken ;
that they were most laboriously and usefully em-
ployed, appeared from 'the various papers before
the House; they had the charge of several Navi- .
gations, they had an extensive correspondenee to
carry on • it 'appeared to him, therefore, , ex-
tremely hard that ' this • kind of, general charge'
shonld be thrown out against them: He repeated,
if the Right Hon. Baronet had any thing specific to
state against the condaCt of the Board, let him do
so, let him' call for Papers, and he (Mr:. Pole)
would be at all times ready to meet him. If the
House wished it, he had no objeetion to the pro-
duction of an account of all the money expended.
under the direction of thisßoard. The Rya Hon„
Baronet had talked 'of the great signs expended
for salaries : those of the Conunissiohers and,Se-
cretary were, as he before said, fixed by Act of
Perliamcnt ;" but the Right Hon. Baronet seemed
to forget that a great number of Clerks and 'Of-;
ficers were employed at the different navigations
which 'were " Under' the superintendance of this
Board, 1-vl:licit occasioned very. great expense.---
With regard to the plan Of transferring the ma-
nagement of the Inland Navigation :to the Lords
of the Treasury, he could only say that it would
he utterly impossible for them to- undertake such
a charge without the assistance of such a Board
as that now in existence. Hp concluded with
moving the previous question. • i • •
Mr. PARNELL went into the history of the pre-
sent system, and contended', that if half a million
had been advanced to the Irish. Canal Company,'
they might have been enabled to t4-..1fil their. en-
gagements, and the country, instead
,of being a
loser of 500,0001. would probably have been a
gainer by that, or by a greater sum. • He did not
blame the Commissioners,
,but he thought the
present plan ought to be got !rid of altogether.
This, appeared to hint to be essential to the in-
terests of Ireland. If recurring to the old prac-
tice,, and leaving the improvements wanted in the
inland navigation to be made by private indivi-
duals or companies, under proper controul, .he
was: confident every part of Ireland would soon be
accessible. ' , , ,

Lord CASTLEREAGH, speaking on the experi-
ence-of ten.yeafs, was perfectly convinced 'ofthe
wisdom of the present system. Nothing could be
greater than the vices of the old one; as it,had
boon &mud that Parliarnont anti G n v rnmpnt

were so incapable of judging of the plans laid be-
-fore them, or rather they had been so frequently
misled that great sums had been expended on
public - works, which were carried on,- with the
i*lst profound ignorance, such as
..Engineers pxo-
jecting splendid canals and finding no water,,,&e.
The''ptublic had thui been very' considerable Ibsen,
and in consequence the establishment of the pre-
sent Board had been thought necessary Since its
institution no public works bad been conlmenced
which it was found impracticable to complete, as
was formerly,often the case. Fe had no reason
to be ashamed of that Institution of which he was
considered as ' the founder, and feeling, as he
did, he should certainlwiote for the previous
question,
Mr. PArertitm, explained.
Mr. W. FITZGERALD Sill& thilt, far froth being
ashamed of the Institutitin, he thoug-ht`the Noble
Lord had reason to congratulate himself on being
its founder, as the country owed very consider-
able advantages to--it.
Sir J. NEwPon;r Wished all parts of the-Empire
to be more assimilated thari they were at present,
and thought if large sums could
.be 'granted in
England for public improvements, • without im-
posing burdens on the people, it ought not on
jilt grodnds to be thought impracticable to
,do
the same in Ireland. He (lid not t iink the Board
of Commissioners deserved all the praise Which-
had been given by the lnst Speaker.
Mr. W. FITZGERALD explained.
Mr. W. Pole defended thc! conduct of the Board
of Treasury,

Sir J..X.EWPORT read certain Accounts of Re-
ductions made b them of Fines. . ,

Mr. W. FITZGERALD complained of the sßoara
of Treasury being thus incidentally attacked.
They were ready to • meet any charge that might
be brought again6t theta.
The House then divided, when we understood
tbe numbers to beL-

For the Motion
Against
Majority in favor of the previous question —33 '
When strangers Were again admitted; •
Mr. M. FITZGERALD_ was addressing the House
respecting the Tithe on Potatoes in Ireland. He
wished to introduce a Bill to alter the law in this
"respect. It might be argued that'such aincasure
would be an invasion of Church property, `by
those Who conceived the Church to be, intitled to
one-tenth of the produce of the land. ,ln, this
principle, however, he could not concur. He did
.not conceive the Church to be intitled to. one
tenth of the produce of the -land.- That it had,
was never established by the law of the land, nor
by the general practice of Ireland, except in the
cases of extraordinary extortion. By the old
Statutes, the tithes were to be appropriated to
making a prOvision for the poor of. 'the parish,
arid they were Also made applicable to various
other purposes, to which"purposes they. were now
no longer applied Hence he inferred, that by
law the Clergy were not intitled to one-tenth of
the produce of the land. He concluded by mOV-
ing for leave to • bring in a Bill for the better
ascertaining the titheS on potatoes in 'lreland.•

Lord CASTLEREAGg was against the measure,
Rs it went to aninvasion of the rights .0.1
Church. In a conversation with the Honourable.
Gentleman, he had consented to his brinving in
.
the Bill under something of a misconception,
Having consented to its being. brought
.in,: he
should not oppose the motion, bUt he wished to'
enter his solemn protest against.the principles on
which it went, and to state that in a future Ses-
sion he could'not concur with the Hon: Gentle-
man in the view which he took of the rights of
the Church. - -
Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) thought that the present timewas
the most inauspicious the H,on. Member could hare chosen,
for agitating the presgnt question., -
Mr. FITZGERALD said, that •his Bill would recognize the
ri;hts of the Clergy in their full. sense according to the pre-
sit law, awl OerefOre could not- he construed into an inva-
sion of the rights of the Protestant Clergyman : be discla.itu-
ed the adoption of .any French theories to which he had al-
ways b'een adverse. •

Mr. W. POLE felt himself called upon to say a very few
words, in order to enter his most serious protest against the
principleS laid down by the Right lion. Gentleman ,(Mr.
Firtegerald).. That Right Hon. Genteman had accused him of
pushing the argument to an extremitY, because he LAI con-
tended that the Chlitch was.elititird to 1-tenth of the produce
of the land. • He maintained that he was justified' in that'as-
section by every law authority, and it would he impossible to
contradict it•withont violating every principle, of justice, and.
destroying the most sacred rights of property. No measure
relating to Tithes could he adopted with any regard-to justice,
unless that principle-was admitted as a basis,' and therefore it
was that he had - .rtlways. argued that it was impossible
-to make any alteration with regard to the system of Tithes
in.lrela.nd, without, either on the one hand, violating the
rights of the Chinch or impropriatOr, or on the other, in=
creasing the. burtliens of the poor. The principle laidAlown
by the 'Right Honourable- Gentleman, would, if carc:.:Jl
into effect, deprive the Clergy of thre&fourths of. their
Tithes', that is to say of. property tO which they, had as giied
a right by law, as any Gentleman had to' his estate. - He
wished to know whether. the R;, g
rit -1-lonouriible Gentleman
meant to extend his Bill to'the ImpropriatorsOf Tithes, .(Mr.
Vi4gerald said NI), then said Mr. Pole', see the justice of
this measnre; the right of the Clergy and of the Impropriator
to these Tithes are precisely the same, • .and yet the. Right
.Honourable.pentlemariivoposes -to take them away from the
one and leave them to the, other. And here he begged to
state to, the House, that the Iraprooriators in Ireland, pos-
sessed one-third of all • the Tithes of the Kingdom.—
The; Right • Honourable Gentleman had admitted, that
in nearly one half 'of Ireland ti.e Tithe of -Potatoes ..was not
paid ; nAv when in addition to that fold; it was known, that
there retie no small ,Tithes in thatekingdom,.and the law (4
agisturent was taken intaeonsiderati on,- he (Mr. P.) surel r.vas
inStified.in stating, on the preceding night, that the Tithes
in Ireland were not to he'put 'in comparison with those of
England, Mr. Pole concluded a most•able speech,. of which
we have Only room. to give a faint sketch, by entering his ere-
testagainst this measure, as. One that was-wholly uncalled
for : in the disturbances which 'had taken place in different
Farts of-Ireland,' this subject had never been mentioned; ?yat
he protested against it more strongly, as involving one of the
most violent and grossest violations of the rights'of property
that had ever been proposed. - , •
Mr. PARNZ.M. stated, the opinions of Doctor Paley, Mr. Pitt,
and.O.:ier eminent persons, were in favour of a Comm station
of Title's.

The ClTANcEt,t;oft of the EXCTIEQUER was friendly to the
object of the Bill, and therefore should not oppose the "bring-
ing of it in.
- - _ .

Ir. . Robinson,- Sr J. Newport, -.Mr. W. Dundas, and Lord;
Castlereagh, made a few oblervations, and Mr. Fitzgerald re-
plied. . .
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL declared he never heard a mea-
sure more objectionable In some respetts. - ' -
Leai't was then given to bring in-the Bill.. i .
COMMITTEE OF :SUPPLY. , . .

Lord STANLEY rose to move that a stun not exceeding five
thousand pounds, should be granted to Mr. Crompton, for
his invention of a machine to:facilitate the spinning of cotton.
It appeared from the evidence. of witnesses who bad been ex-
amined in a Committee above stairs, that our cotton trade
had increased, within the last thirty,years, as twenty to one,
and that one-half, or nearly two-thirds of that increase, was
attributable to the machine for mule spinning, invented by
Mr. Crompton.
Mr. BLACKBURN supported the motion, as did also the
ii.ivrrt/ nn syS shel V.VriZ4tITVPR an.i Sr_ 11.111/11,2

when the. sum was umnitioluls- voted, and the Report or-'.!
dered.to be received to-morro.w (this day). .
The Report of the Riat Bill was taken it.to further cons►'.
deration, when two additional Olausos , were proposed bt.
lijr. Ryder, and the -Bill ordered to be read a third time ta
morrow.

MILTCANS BILL.

The liouse tbtri resolved itself into a Committee \upon, the
Publicans' I'ew•ter Pot Bill.

12.1 r. D. Giddy and Mr. Croker opposed the clause probi!)it-
irig publicans from sending out pewter potS, which wa:
ported by Mr. *Lithread, MrrSinith, Mr. Rose, and Sir 'i•
Turton, acid carried ny a division of 26 to M. •
The ntlicr clauses were then gone through, and the. 1:4111N-0
ordered to be. reported on Friday.
In the Committee of Supply a Vote was graiited of five mils
lions of :I.:tot:x:111er Bills for the service of the year. •
Several other minor votes were agreed to.
To be reported to-ox;rrow.
The other Orders were disposed cif.—Adjourned.

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SWAM QUIS DICFIRE FAL,strivi ANDEAT ?

L D 0 N,
THURSDAY, JUNE 25, 1812..

This morning a Heligoland Mail arrived, whicl`
contains merely the following article :

•
HELIGOLAND, JUNE 10.—We still. ColltiOe'
completely occluded from all intercourse with tile
opposite coast. We were in hopes that the jour
ney of E.IIONAPARTE to the North, where it ic3/
to be supposed his attention would be' engraq'
ed, by the magnitude of the object of
ambition in that quarter, • would have of'
fered a facility to a communication egEtailt
desired by those On the neighbouring shores 's
ourselves. The system, however, continues to
be followed up with, the same unrelenting
and for upwards of a month we have bad 11°
arrival from the coast Worth Mentioning.
BarOn Kr.itoLi', who was sent back to the islal
in a flag of truce, frvtn, Denmark, about six 'see"
,so, and kept in confinement here ever since,- s9ii'
ed on the
,17th inst. with the convoy for the
bald
tic, and is, it'is understood-, to be landed, by h 5
own desire, iaßlisia.,

We have made some further extracts - from tb-c
Ge
American. Papers which. arrived yesterday.
Federal Party, Ire. rejoice to find; is goir•I'l;
strength, and it is admitted in the Governrie!
Pipers that those•who were most loud in tbeif
c:rtmours for war, find their courage: abate
crisis approaches. -

," e$
' According to recent accounts from Foc
61
spirit of discontent prevails all over that coat .i
•
but particularly in Brittany, occasionei in a grl
measure by a considerable advance in the pVccEf
bread,,wltich had suddenly, risen from four tO 1:10/
teen sous per pound. The farmers, it is said'
_id De
not bring their corn to market, lest it sho"— d
,seized by,the people. An event of tliis kind hit..
recently taken place at. Morltix, where the P°Pa
1:0
lace seized the corn, and the military were obv e
to suppress the tumult. But the discontent 01 t.
tb
people had been considerably augmented 1/1 . c
ri
enormous exactions which the Corsican
.;YlO
: 0,
had ordered to be imposed throughout the cle,
try, and those • who are unable to pay imalediatio
ly halve their goods seized and disposed off i
use of Government. It is even said, that 01-;litg if
guards are stationed on the coast, who deProt
the poor ._fishermen as they
„arrive of ' half 0
produce 'of their labours. It is farther 5,1',y
that the Tyrant himself 'was so Much alarll3e ,
, t Dt
these appearances of popular discontent, tug- oii
fore his departure' he had signified that 0 e;‘ed
dition would' be likely to ' accomplish 'a bey 0
0
peace. These accounts, we understand, ti,
been confirmf4.l. by four persons who weretwir
soners in France, but recently made oc
escape, and were found in an , open boat 140,1
Rientiship, Capt. LE SUEUR, between icrsci '...0 I
• tivi
te v
Gucrnsey. Two of these persons were inhabi
At '
of 'Nevis., aA the others .the Master and.--$
.the Calista, of London.

• OP
The ingratitude of the Party to their old °l,
is as disgusting as their iato.:erance to their Pei(
tical Opponents•i a more striking instance °I 0,,t
former we have never Seen: than in their
of Mr. SHERID,6I.. Although we have 9`j
iOOl
uniformly entertained different political 013:1,
from that Gentler n, yet we have always 3
ed the splendour of his talents', and the Iflt,
firmness with which lie, upon .Somelnelp°l4:l
• co ,
occasions, where the vital interests of his -
were concerned, distinguished himself by
duct in _direct opposition to that of his Parry tot
t 0
we cannot without indignation hear tha
who has, by the brilliancy of his talents, add 0/
only to the importance of his Party, but t c 9
h 0
reputation of his ountry, style by those Iv—, It
ed themselves his friends, "a Court Buffoori•
ti
think, , perhaps, that Mr. SHERIDAN 11137 0
attacked without flan o•pr _ • and with equal.°

nitnity and consistency tliqt hasten to the charge.
fiat Mr..SHERIDAN'did use all 'his efforts to in-
troduce Lords GREY and GRENVILLE into the Ad-
rainistration , is proved not only by his own solemn
assertiOn, but by the' direct testimony of Mr.
WHITBREAD. What offence, then, has he 'corn-
raitted, to justifylthe Party in assailing him with
-to much rancour ? Why; be,has.ventdred to give
an opinion, as a Member of Parliament, that Lords
GREY' and GRENVILLE ought to haver accepted the
offers made to them ; and for this act of gross.pre-
811mption his old friends call him a sycophant,
"t' intriguer, and a Court buffoon. The sup-
Porters of these Noble Lords, who are, so
ready to calumniate Mr. SHERIDAN, complain
that an unfounded clamour has been 'raised
against them on this occasion ; the fact is really
the reverse—the public are 'so satisfied with them
for declining office, so Ilappy that .the Party is not
ja Administration, that they are disposed to look,
without much anger, at the arrogant pretensions
Which have produced such beneficial consequences.

• Yesterday the LORD cIIANCELLOR and the Earl
°f LIVERPOOL had audiences of the PRINCE RE-
6ttiZT, at Carlton House.
Yesterday the Judge Advocate had an audience
of the PRINCE REGENT, and laid before his Royal
Highness the rfroceedings of some Courts-Martial.
Yesterday morning the Duke of 'YORK went to
Windsor, and returned, to York House to dine.

Lieutenant'-General HISLOP will shortly ,pro-
ceed to Bomhaiy,. to take command of the forces
in that Presidency.

Yesterday being Midsummer Day, a Common
hall was held for the election of Sheriffs for the
ensuing year, and the other City Officers annually
chosen on that day, when Join BLARES, Esq.
glass-seller, and MICHAEL HOY) Esq. ironmonger,
'were, unanimously elected Sheritis,tand the Cham-
berlain, Bridge-nasters,Aleconners; and Auditors
Were re-elected for the ensuing year.—The at-
tendance of the Livery was unusually thin.
The adjourned consideration of the Petition of
Mr. THOMAS CROOK, against the return of Mr.
JAMES CADE and Mr. THOMAS CONWAY, as Com-
mon Council Men for Vintry Waid, was proceed-
ed in, when the Petition against. Mr. CAnE was
dismissed, and the election of Mr. CONWAY set
aside. The LORI) MAYOR was reqUcsted- to issue
uis precept for the election of another Common
Council Man in his room.

Yesterday a Quarterly CoUrt was held at the
test India House, when the Dividend for the' last
balf-year -Ivas declared to be 5-41. per Cent. The
Proprietors forming the Committee of Bye-Laws
were re-elected. The -Chairman, HUGH
INGLis, representing' the sufferings • Capt. HAY,
of the Astell, experienced, in consequence of the
wounds he had received ill the memorable action
with the squadrOn, of French frigates, moved,
that the pension of 4001. formerly granted to hith,
while out of erriploy„ be continued to -that, gallant
Z." meritorious Officer during life; which ran-
-1". having been seconded by Mr. M. Rot:A,
Pissed 111MISIY•
Yesterday, at the East India House, Captains
E BEET and BARKER, of the Euphrates and
Northampton, took leave, previously to departing
for. Bengal direct.

The d Battalion, Gth Foot, is among the. re-
inforcements for Portug9l.
Several Gral I Gropes of the Legion of Ho-
nour in France have been lately handed about in
our Fashionable circles ; the gold medallion in the
centre is a striking resemblance of BODNAPAIiTE,
but the workmanship altogether is badly exe-
cuted.

A Bill is.now in its progress fdr. regulating the
election of Knights of the Shire to serve in ?ar-
liatnent. To prevent the practice of paying money'.
to Freelo.Olders3 on pretence of paying expenses
of their journies to the place of election, it is
proposed to hold Special County Courts:' for the
election of Candidates, to be continued from day
to day, and from hundred to hundred, throughout
the county, ending with the hundred wherein
,the
town or place in which elections for the county
have been usuallyleld situate, and there the poll
is to finish. For closing the poll within a limited
time, two or more hundreds may be united.=
Paying expenses of voters, to incapacitate the
Candidate: ,

The ComMittee appointed to inquire into the
causes which rttard the decision of suits in Chan-
. cery,, and appeals and writs of error before the
- Lords, have reported that the arrear of Chancery,
causes is undiminished, and, the appeals to, the
Chancellor from the Master of the Rolls increased
in number.° . At the end of Hilary Term,
,1812,
109 original causes' remained set down in the.
Chancellor's paper' for hearing, and 39 appeals
from the Rolls. Re-hearings remained much-the
Same as before. .The bankruptcy, arrears were di-
Ininished. The Committee are concerned to find
to great a number of wises' before the House of
Lords, waiting NI- decision. There remain to be
heard—.-19 appals from England ;. ' l7q ditto
Scotland 5, and 57 ditto Ireland writs of
error from England; 2 ditto Scotland; and six
ditto Ireland.
Some of the Yorkshire Papers teerri with ac-
counts of ontrages, particularly in the, neighbour-
hood of Leeds arid Huddersfield. ,On. Saturday
morning, about -one o'clock, the family of a
'BARRACLOUGH was roused by a' party
Who demanded fire-arms, which was complied
With : rwt content with this, they insisted that
the door should be• opened, which was done ;
they then insisted '.upon having .the keys of the
desk and drawers, -which they ransacked, but
found no money; they proceeded to the bed-room
O f Mr. B. and insisted upon his Money ; he 'gave
.them about 20s. ; andhavi ng helped themselves to
cheese, and butter, they took their leave. Tbe'
same night a rohb ery took place at K irkhnrton , near
Ihtddersfield, in which the robbers broke into the
louse, entered the bed room of Mr. Savage; and
Presenting a• pistol to Mr S. and his son; who
slept in the same room, demanded 1113 money and,
keys ; he bane them about 235.: they exapi.ned
leis driwers, but:Aid not Meet .the trektsure they