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the motion before the Hortge, for the purpose of of:
feritsg one of the nature suggesNd by the Chancellor
of the Exchequer.
he original motion was then withdrawn, and
another was immediately made for a return of the,
number of all Foreign Officers and soldiers now
serving at home, distinguishing the Officers from
the soldiers, and specifying the places in which they
were serving.—Agreed to.

OATHS BEFORE THE LORD HIGH STEWARD.
Mr. W. WY N N-E moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to repealso mudh of an Ati of alie-2d of Eliza-
beth, as direMs certain oaths to be taken byMem-
hers of this House, before the Loid High Steward,
or his Deputies.
The - CHANCELLOR Of the ExCHEQUER was
sorry, as the Honourable Gentlernan had on a for-
mer et/ening said there were two ways of procee&
ing on this subject, that of the two he mentioned
he had preferred this The Hon urable Getitleman
had said, that the oaths could be taken away, or the
Deputies of one Lord High Steward could be con-
tinued in their offices, till a new Lord High Steward
iraa appointed. His reason for wishing the latter
courserhad been preferred to the former was, that
it would. haVe cured the evil complained of without
introducing any thing new.
Mr. W. WYNNE had been induced to prefer the
coati se he had taken, by an opinion which had been
Universally held by those he had spoken with on the
subject, that it was desirable the oaths in question
should be taken away.
Leave was given to bring in the Bill.
Mr. W. WYNNE then btought it in.
It was read a first time, and ordered for a second
reading vii Monday.
Mr. LUsHINGTON brought up the Report of the.
Committee of Supply, on the Irish Estimates.
Mr. HuTcHissoN expressed shortly his disappro-
batioti Of the smallness of -the grant to Maynooth
College.
The Reshlutions were all agreed to.
On the Report of the Ordnance Estimate,
Mr. BANS Es inquired whether the contrast ba-
tween Governnient and Mr. Willan, fot sripplying
3500 horses, so" detrimental to the country, had
been abrogated ? The 16113 Report. of the Cool-
rniasioners of Military Inquiry disapproved of the
ondutt of a Right HonourableGentleman (Mr. W.
Mr. WARD replied, that ' Ministers had put an
'end to' the contr;td, eXcepting- as far as related to
150 horses-shill supplied in that way, in conse-
quence of the "recommendation of Gen. Douglas
He thought that this part of it would likewise soon
be athiulled.
Mr. W. PoLE said, that feeling hitOself personally
concerned in this subject, he begged to trouble the
House for '& few moments. He had the honour of
holding a situation in the Ordnance at the time the
contract alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman was put
\Ali end to; and it the House thought proper to enter
into an investigation of the subject, he had no doubt
that it would appear that the Board of Ordnance,
instead of acting wrong in putting an end to the
contrid; had'caused a saving of 100,0001. a year,
and had made 3.500 houses the property of the pub-
lic. It was necessary to state to the House, that
,when'the preSent war broke out, the Ordnance was
in a dismantled statea and it was necessary, as it
were, to create every thing anew. It was -his duty,
from the official situation which he then held, to
undertake whatever was diretted by the Master-
General of the Board of Ordnance, and he certainly
had, at that time, the undertaking of several most
important matters confided to him. It was his con-
stant praCtice, a practice which he never deviated
from; to record in the office every transaction in
which he was concerned, the grounds upon which,
Ilse recommended it, and as' far as he-could do it,
the result. He thanked God he had *adopted this
pradice, because if he had not done so, his cha•
rsCler might have suffered from the manner in
which the Report, alluded to by the Hon. Gentle-
man, had been drawn up. The facts of the case
were simply these. A contras had been entered
into by the Board of Ordnance with Mr. Willan for
:3500' horses, on terms which were considered as
reasonable. •Government were to pay him 3s.' per
day for finding and keeping the horses; and as. this
was the same sons t hat Mr. Brook Watson- had con-
traded to pay for the Commissariat horses, it was
thought that the Ordnance had made a good bar-
gain in obtaining the same terms as a person so ex-
petiericed in -contracts as that,Gentleman. Upon
considering afterwards, however, this contract, and,
making a calculation upon it, it -appeared to bins
that the contritoor must be making a profit of be-4
teeeu 60 and 70,0001. a year upon it. He felt it
Lis duly immediately to.. submit the result of his
calculation to the Master-General, and to recom-
mend that the contract. should be put an end to,
and that the horses should be purchased. by the pub-
lic. Isle entered into a detailed statement of the
advantages that would arise to the public froM the
aeoption of this plan. Ile was desired to lay.this
solo client before the Treasury; he did so, and the
result was, that it was approved of, the contratt was
put an end to (tie contractor- being allowed a fair
prat • for his contract), and the horses purchased
14 the public at a fair price. A detailed account of
this whole transaction, and the grounds upon which
the measare was adopted, had been lodged by him
in the Board of Ordnance. At the end of the first
year after the contract was put an end to, the saving
arising to the public -was 50,0001. and every year
afterwards the saving amounted to above 100,0001.
fl his was the state of the case as far as hig recollec-
tion 'served him, but he never had had occasion to
revert to the subject since he quitted the Ordnance,
311 d he was taken by surprise by this discussion.
He had never read the Report of the Military COM'.
anissioners ; he. had only seen an extract in the
Newspapers. If the House thought, or if any one
.Gentleman thought an investigation necessary, he
should not only he ready, but happy to meet it. His
vies might have been erroneous, but in this, as
well as in every other' act of his public life, he was
solely actuated by a zeal for the public service.—
Mr. POLE then adverted to the circumstance of b 0
horses being kept by contract at Mary-le-bone
Park ater the other contract vfrasa put an end to;
lie sad that arose from the determination of the
ivernaent of that day to have a vety large batter-
fug train round the metropolis; the horses in ques-
tion became therefote absolutely necessary.

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