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troul over the taste of the persons who took the directions in
their own hands. The proper duty of the Board of Works he
conceived ought to be, to take care of the repairs ordered to be
undertaken, and to see the due performance of contracts for
buildings.—(Hear, hear !)—The rest he considered ought
to be vested in the Treasury, and he should certainly propose
some alteration of the system for the approbation of the House.
--(Hear, hear !)
Mr. CHOKER was quite sure the House would agree with
the proposition of his Right Hon. Friend (the Chancellor of
the Exchequer) as to the controul over the erection and mainte-
nanee of public buildings, being vested in the Treasury. They
were at considerable expence, on their account, whilst they
tended to disgrace the national taste—Meer !)—lle had
?nraye been of opinion that the Treasury ought to have this con-
`rtati• 'When the country saw the effects of the good taste which
would accompany their efforts, they would cease to have that
niggardliness in such matters, which had been so unjustly
charged upon them, because they disliked to pay money for
the debasement of their own character. He saw with deep
"ow that an edifice, the Painted Chamber, was about to be
rlittliell down, which so long as 500 years ago received the epi-
"et throughout Europe of per illustria. It was the first of
tilese-
times which united the highest beauties of architecture
a!?,1 painting. The colours were in a most surprising state
°f Preservation and freshness ; and the style of architecture was
f'l. the purest kind. lie should be sorry then to see that which
had been celebrated 500 years ago make place to one of the
'lllicar°d7)n gcw-haws which disgraced its neighbourhood.—Wear,
Itlr. BERRIES briefly explained the purposes for which the
Present grant was required.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER regretted
that the new erections had not been built in a better state. He
"e 4 far from disagreeing with all that had been said on this sub-
j'"ct• He was of opinion that in London there was no Royal
1-,Nidence suitable to the wealth and grandeur of the nation.
'tut the Hon. Gentleman would reflect, that to build a palace
(~," adequate splendour would occasion considerable ex.
had
The repairs in the Palace which hall been commenced
ad been made necessary by the fire which occurred some
Years ago.
MACKINTOSH thought it going much too far to
down a Royal residence like the Palace at Westminster,
:ntake way for a modern substitute many of which were of a
LerY petty nature. He regretted that the new building near
re front of Westminster Hall, which had been called Grecian,
"'at which could only be so called, because it was not Grecian,
and because it was not Classic, should not have been built up
°a to correspond with the front of the Hall itself. He was
Pr diet the noble building should have been deformed by an
(if he which, if Grecian at all, ought to be called Brzotian
`" re were such a style of architecture), but which was un-
queetionably most barbarous.
ES regretted that the wholle building had not
'"11 brought to the ground, rather than it should have been
iLade what it was. As repaired, it looked hiore like an alms-
'-`,! than a palace, and was a disgrace to the national taste.
„ar THOMAS BARING thought it might be advisable to
4," the ground on which the palace now stood, and some of the
C's,-.°T existing palacesmoderate addition to the sum
k;arreceived, would suffice to build a new Royal residence in a
AlaP„Prepriate situation.
;h-ItiGHT thought the country had hitherto gone on well
of a wisitit respec dole palaces, and was against the erection
sir i,,,,0Yal resien.
sec! b' • RIDLEY was sorry to hear the opinion expres-
leo "le last Hon. Member. He thought every friend to
harehy niii tbe of o inion that in London the Sovereign
IA ttlo lodged.
I‘ll EATONinadequatel hoped he should not be thought niggardly
-4°ll he expressed an opinion that, because the country was
'°M in what Gentlemen called a state of prosperity, they ought
t 0 begin a new race of extravagance.
31r• BENNET felt disposed to support the proposition of
te Hon. Member for Bristol.
Sir C. LONG disclaimed for himself and the Committee ap-
pointed to consider the merit of the models for the intended
national monument, all concern with the new building in
Palace-yard.
After a few further remarks from Sir J. NEWPORT and the
CHexcE Limit of the ExcnEQUER, the grant was agreed to.
The following votes were then moved :
£lo,ooo to defray the expences of Edinburgh College for the
Present year.
4:131155 to defray the expence of the works at Port St.
Patrick..
Sir I. COFFIN thought the money expended on Port St.
Patrick had been thrown away.
The grant was agreed to.
The next vote was 25,0001. to defray the expence of com-
pleting the Caledonian Canal.
The next vote was—
£3o,ooo towards defraying the expence of building the now
Courts of Justice in Westminster Hall.
Mr. BA NKES could not help remarking on the inconve.
'hence of beginning works without first determining the extent
to ti.. sb,,,aft he carried and ascertaining the expence
which they would occasion. TL. general taste of the building
at the end of Westminster Hall was detestable, though, by a
strange misnomer, it had been called Grecian.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER regretted as
Intel% as the Right Honourable Gentleman, the very un.
pleasant excrescence which had been noticed. He had only first
".flown of what was intended last summer, some time after the
'oandations had been laid, when he deemed it too late to in.
terfere.
Mr. BARING expressed a hope that care would be taken
that in the erection of the new Post-office such errors should
hot be committed.
The CHANCELLOR of' the EXCHEQUER. mid, the
,111°use would recollect that it had been recommended by a cow.
almathat prizes should be offered to Architects to send in
ma for a new Post-office. This course being taken pro.
aiubred, a considerable number, but as it was obviously impos-
pract;_r those who sent them to know instinctively all the
Plan" Practical purposes which were to be attended to, none of the
received were exactly what was desired. The Post-
sathen applied to their Architect to furnish one. He
fit the
it was laid before the Treasury last year. How-
ahe internal arrangements might be, it was not what he
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer) thought the outside of such
then ap $ ought to be. His Noble Friend and himself had
which tgiteyetut. Smirke, who had laid a plan before them
purpose in view." ht
both
respects
admirably adapted to the
a sufficiency of ern
It combined grandeur from its extent, with
ing with an lonianitt ; it presented to the eye a large build-
Insuldings in baess.relfw; windows of a considerable size, and
Mr. WILLIAMS tlin pressing any motion for post.
Ponement, and the Resolution was agreed to. The next grant W 40.0,
• towards
of the new buildings Tat tthooekßritish Musedefraying
the expence
Mr. BEAU MON
and noble conduct of Sir G. Occasion to advert to the liberal
Public his gallery of pictures. Beaumont' who had given to the
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, no man
frolic
more cordially agree with every v blhad fallen
"'oln the Hon. Gentleman than he dicl.s. lla
e which
2:he resolution was agreed to.
The next grants were— •
1,.1'41.,000 for improving the Royal Harbour of George the
`7..11, formerly Dunlearyt
42
CA4,467, for improving Leonagbadee Harbour.
.3)000 to defray the expences of the Penitentiary at Mil.
Mr. c 0
RDON said, a sum of near half a million, namely,
limr....°°o/, had been expended on this building, and, after all, he
55„.:ftott0ed it was so unhealthy that it was absolutely neces-
„.! leave it unoccupied. He wished to hear from his Ma-
`,744.Yl3iii‘shlli,nliesoter7 some explanation us to the ultimate fate of the
t.5111:r• Secretary PEEL observed that the policy or the Peni.
it wiaary had been so frequently. discussed in that House, that
toi2all'inn9cessary then to go into the subject. With respect
pecli_l;irogitunoccupied, there was but one opinion, on the eli-
te the_
,y of removing the criminals. They had been conveyed
been° Regent's Park, and to the hulks, where their healths had
uf thearded. It was impossible to say what would become
take Penitentiary. The Right Hon. Secretary would not
Upon him to send any more prisoners to the Peniten.
NeireYe,wt,thout further authority. He had declined moving fora
(~ommittee because Hon. Member (the Member for
eading) had told him it his intention to move for the ap-
PollintittirLeof a Select Committee. The opinion of medical per-
m taken, and the alteration had been made to pro-
ftot.e the health of the criminal He had not the slightest ob-
4‘,ction to have the whole subjecst.—investigated by a Committee.
The Resolution was then agreede to.
voted
...The following items were th To make up deficiencies of sums for services in the de-
„,nartment of the Home Secretary
TO make good deficiencies intheodfepSatarttement -of the £15,000
TO snake
of State for the Colonies - 4,500
4°llriake good Deficiencies in the Funds of-
the Privy
coeoluncil.Department- 15,422
INT,...neonge,nt Expences, Messengers Bills, Ike. - 8,000
kers Bills in the Department of the Home
I,;:`Lretary of State - 9,737
alPcnees of the Insolvent Debtors Court- - 81640
parles and Allowances to Offices to the Lords in
° def - - . . - 21,619
fo ,r„Sy the Expences of the Vaccine Establishment
6,000
Pet".es
,„ Compensations, and Superannuation of
zs"Peo, employed in Public Offices . - 10,900
fensions and Provisions for Toulonese
Ls's) those of Corsica, and St. Domingo • X 141402 •