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London, England, 1824-06-01 00:00:00

ROMAN CATHOLIC PETITION.

Mr. BROUGHAM said, he held in his baud a petition
from-a considerable number of persons of the Roman Catholic
persuasion in Ireland. The petitioners consisted of a very large
mass of his Majesty's- subjects. They were deserving respect
from the vast numbers of which they consisted ; they were to
be respected for the large interests which they had in the coun.
try, but on no account were they more to he respected than for
the unshaken confidence which they had always held, a confi-
dence which they were still disposed to hold, anticipating relief
front Parliament. As it was not his intention to bring for-
ward any specific motion on the subject of their claims, he felt
it necessary shortly to state to the House the subject of the
petition. It unfiwtunately happened that he differed from
the petitioners in. some of their prayers. They expressed in
the outset " gratitute for a disposition," which they thought
they had received front Parliament, in appointing a Commit-
tee to inquire into the distress of Ireland, which they had so
long and so patiently borne." They expressed, said the Hon.
and Learnt:Ll. Ocupenuta, great regret at the union of the
two Parliatnents,r'tunti be concurred in this statement. The
Itoman Catholics or, Ireland consisted of seven-eighths of the
people, and thcy wished their rights to be restored to them.
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They complained of the tithe proctors " being rapacious,"
and of tithes ; they complained " that it is tax upon the ca-
pital of the country, and the labour of the poor ;" but of the
injustice of it, they complain with greater force of expres-
sion, and he was of opinion with greater weight of reason.
The said; that " tithe was payable from a large to a small
proportion of people "---" payable," they said, " to an
hierarchy which insulted and oppressed them." They com-
plained, a that the faith to winch they were. conscientiously
and irrevocably attached, had been insulted by the Established,
Church." They complained, " that in one part of the
country the dead was not permitted to be buried," a thing
never practised in any country before. They complained
" that justice was not duly administered, and in one place in
Ulster it was altogether denied." They stated, " that against
abuses committed in the North by the Members of Orange
Societies no justice was to be obtained ;" and that in the
South the Insurrection Act, which was therein force, "had given
rise to dissensions, for the particulars of which they begged to
refer to Mr. sergeant Torrens and others." They stated, that it
was a boast among the Orange Societies, " that the Heir Pre-
sumptive to the Throne was their protecting patron." This,
however, they looked upon as a false statement. They stated,
" that in case of war the country would be in great danger from
the system which existed in it." • It was not his good fortune
to agree with some of the statements and some of the prayers
with which the petition was couched ; but whilst he differed from
theni, it was but justice to say that he informed the petitioners
he could not support them in all their prayers. He at the same
time thought the treatment which. they had received was one re-
quiring the interference of the House.— (flear, hear !)—Before
suffering judgment to go forth against seven-eighths of' the peo-
ple of Ireland, let the Ilouse consider the subjecat well. He
recollected an observation made in the other House of Parlia-
ment by an Illustrious Individual, not more illustrious from his
rank than he was froM the rectitude which marked all his actions,
he meant the late Duke of Devonshire. Ile could not recollect
the precise words used on that occasion, but they were in sub-
stance—Let us grant now what we ought long ago to have
granted ; and not because it is asked, not because it is called for—
Bis dal qui cilo dat—Let the complaiets of the Catholics be at-
tended to, lest their prayers assume the language of command :
and let not the House refuse to do what it ought long ago to
have done.

General GASCOYNE was understood to inquire whether the
Hon. and Learned Member knew that the petition did not con-
tain anything offensive to the House ?
Mr. BROUGHAM said that there was no expression what-
ever casting the slightest degree of discredit on the House con-
tained in the petition ; but on the contrary, it was ouched in the
most respectful terms.
After a few
.words from General Gascon.lE and Mr.
Buouoll-AM the petition. was read and ordered to be printed.
Mr. IiIIOUGHAM presented several petitions from the
Protestant Dissenters in Kendal, prating
for an inquiry into
the proceedings against Mr. Smith the late Demerara Mis-
sionary.

Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. BItOUGHA3I pri.,ented a petition from Galway, pray-
ing for a repeal of the Corporation Law. in Ireland.
Ordered to be printed.
ISLE OF MAN.
- Mr. BROUGHAM stated, that he would not present the pe-
tition from the Keys in the Isle of 31an till this day fortnight.
GAME LAWS AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr. S. WORTLEY moved that the House should go into a
Committee for the further consideration of the Yieport of the
above Bill.

Sir J. SHELLEY made some observations in opposition to
the Bill, which were not audible in the Gallery. He moved,
as an amendment, that the Report be taken into further consi-
deration this day three months.
After a short discussion the House divided__
Ayes . _ - - - 103
Noes - . - - 120
Majority _ - - - -17
It was consequently lost.
Mr. S. WORTLEY then gave notice that he should bring in
a similar Bill next Session.
LAW OF MERCHANTS. •
On oar return to the Gallery, we found the House in discus-
sion upon the third reading of the Law of Merchants' Bill.
Mr. SCAR I,E rr opposed the Bill.
Mr. .1. SMITH said this measure was anxiously expected by
the Commercial Interest. It would' be hailed as one of the
greatest benefits. ,
Mr. FARR AND supported the Bill. It was then read a
third eine And passed.
SAVINGS BANKS.
Thc.Savings Banks bill was recommitted, and several amend-

PA /MIA MENTAR PROCEEDINGS.

1.101:1,E OF COMMONS.
141117 Cr 3-10 clic Mail, 1824.
ROADS —R enfrewshire' and Glasgow and Portpatrick (Petition
of MerchantS, &c. of Dublin, for the establishment of Steam
Boat Mail Conveyance between Donaghadee and Portpatrick,
referred to the Committee on the Bill)—Bills reported, be
ingrossed. Glasgow and Yoker Bridge, and Purthdinllaen
and Pwllheli—Bills read a third time, and passed.
EsTAT 8 —Macrae's, Edmondstone's, and Campbell's—Bills
read a second time, and committed. 3larquis of Anglesea's,
and Maxwell's—Bills read a first time.'

CANAT.— Bristol & Taunton, & Thames
and Medway
KAizkwo n xs—Chehenham

birnovzmENT—Leeds

BRIDGE—Lary
EAST IxmAComrAwY'sAGnrsmtNT
LAW MERCHANT AMENDMENT
LEATHER AND PAPER DUTIES (Ire-
land)
BANlcgurT LAWS AMENDMENT

Bills read a 3d time,
and passed.

EXCHIQUE (115,4.100:010)
HID/CS AND SKINS

ISTILLERIES (Scotland)
NEW SOUTH WALES

CHARITIES INQUIRY

IrtcLosuims—lienerglyn (Cardigan)-41111 reported, Report
to lie on the table. Wahngate Bar (York)—Bill reported,
to be ingrossed.
If AUBOUn—Brenogue (Ireland)
EQUITABLE LOAN SOCIETY-318MCile,W I
(Three Petitions of Pawnbrokers of Man-

Chester and Salford, against, to lie on the
table) .

Bills reported,
to be ingtosaed.

CITY Or LONDON—Thames Navigation,
Coal Exchange, and Orphans' Fund Debts
NAVIGATION—Medway
DRAINAGE OF BOGS (Ireland)
ComPANY—British Gas Light—Petition of'
Light Company, against, to lie on the
Reading.
TITII E - Cockerham—Further time granted for making the
Report.
NATURALIZATION—Sakes—BiII read a second time, and
committed.
COMBINATION LAWS REPEAL
WITNESSES

the Barnsley Gas
table till Second

SUPERANNUATION FUND
ARTIZANS EMIGRATION

PAROCHIAL STIPENDS (Scotland)

Bills read a second
time, and com-
mitted.

MASTERS AND AVOIMMiN

HIGHLAND CHURCHES
sUlWTONs—Petition of Charles Dunne, &C. against disquali-
fied persons acting as Surgeons, to lie on the table.
COAL Du TlES—Petition against the Duties on Coals, from
Proprietors of Glamorganshire Canal, to lie on the table.
NOTARlES—Petitions from Roxburghshire, for repeal of the
Duties on Licences to act as Notaries Public, to lie on the
table. _ .

D LE It 1' Laws—Petition from Argyllshire, for a free in-
tercourse in home-made Spirits throughout the United

Kingdom, to lie on the table.
WAREHOUSE:I) NVHEA•r Btx.r.—Three Petitions, against, to
lie on the table. Bill to be read a third time on Thursday.
Mat.•r DUTY (Ireland)—Petition of Maltstera of Queen's
County, to be placed on the same footing as those of Eng-
land, to lie on the table.
lIIEssAGE FROM THE Loans—That they have agreed to
'Transfer of Stock Bill, Radnor and Hereford, and Durham
and Type Bridge Roads Bills, without amendment; and to
Ilulme Improvement Bill, and Abbotside (York) Inclosure
Bill, with amendments.

That they have passed a Bill, intituled, " An Act for
uniting the Rectory of Clifton 3laybank, otherwise Clifton,
in the County of Dorset, with the Vicarage of Bradford
Abbas, otherwise Bradford, in the same County, and for an
exchange of part of the glebe-lands of the said Vicarage for
lands of the most Noble Ilenry William Marquis of Angle-
sey, and the Right Honourable Henry. Paget, commonly
called Earl of Uxbridge, his eldest son, in the same parish ;
and for apportioning the Rectorial and Vicarial Tithes of the
said parish of Milborne Port; and for an exchange between
the Warden and Scholars, Clerks of Saint Mary College of
Winchester, near Winchester, and the said Marquis and
Earl, of the \lanor and Impropriate Rectory, and Advow_
son, of the Vicarage of Milborne Port, in the County of
Somerset, and divers lands and hereditaments in the parish
of Milborne Port, for the Manor of Sherborne Wyke, and
divers farms and lands, and Impropriate Tithes, in the
parishes of Sherborne, Bradford Abbas, and Thornford, in
the County of Dorset, and for the Advowsons of the said
Rectory, of Clifton Maybank, and Vicarage of Bradford
Abbas.
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Also, a Bill, entitled " An Act to repeal an Act passed
in the 57th year of the reign of his late Majesty King George
Third, entitled, An Act to regulate the celebration of Mar-
riages in Newfounland,' and to make further provision for
the celebration of Marriages in the said Colony and its de-
pendencies."
Also, a Bill, entitled "An Act for settling the Lands of
Chilcarroch, and others, in the Sheriffitom of Wigton, to and
in favour of Sir William Maxwell, Baronet, and the heirs
entitled to take by a certain deed of entail, by Sir William
Maxwell, Baronet, deceased, under the conditions and limi-
tations in the said deed, and for vesting, in lieu thereof,
certain parts of the entailed Estate of Drummodie, in the
said Sheriffdom, in certain Trustees nominated by the said
Sir William Maxwell, deceased, for the purposes of the
Trust, and for other purposes therein mentioned.

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY.
1. Mr. Brougham—Proceedings against Mr. John Smith, late
Missionary at Demerara.
2. Mr. Brownlow—To refer. Petition concerning Roman Ca-
tholic Association to the 'Committee on the state of Ireland.
3. Mr. Goulburn—Bill to renew Insurrection Act (Ireland).
4. Sir John Newport—To refer Petitions against the Orange
Association to the Committee on the Disturbed Districts in
Ireland, and to direct the said Committee to. inquire, and
to report how far the Act of last Session against Secret So-
cieties has been found effectual.
ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR THIS DAY.
1. Usury Laws Forfeiture Bill—Second Reading.
2. Lancaster County Courts Bill—Committee.
3. Fisheries Bill—Further consideration of Report.
4. Butter Trade (Ireland) Bill—Second Reading.
5. Silk Manufacturers Wages Bill—Committee.
G. Grand Jury Presentments Bill—Committee.
7. Connor Benefices Bill—Second Reading.
B. Equitable Loan Society Bill—Third Reading.
9. Saving Banks Bill—Report.
10. General Turnpike Act Amendment Bill—Report.
11. Dublin Police Bill—Report.
12. East India Goods Bill—Committee.
13. Transportation of Offenders Bill—Committee.
14. New-street (Mary-le-bone) Bill—Report.
15. Impounding Distresses (Ireland) Bill—Further considera-
tion of Report.
16. Tenants Relief (Ireland) Bill—Further consideration of

- Report.
17. County Gaols Bill—Third Reading.
18. Cocoa Nuts, &c. Bill—Committee.
19. Highland Churches Bill—Second Reading.
20. Fishery Bounties—Committee thereupon.
21. East India Trade Act—Committee thereupon.
22. Warehousing (Ireland) Bill—Second Reading.
23. Duchy of Cornwall Bill—Second Reading.
24. Mauritius Trade—Committee thereupon.
NOTICES G IVEN YESTERDAY.
Monday, June 14
Mr. Brougham—To present Petition from House of Keys,
Isle of Mann.

Tuesday, June 15.
Mr. Dominick Browne—Establishment of a Roman Catho-
lic Church in Ireland, in connection with the State,

SOUTH AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE.

TO THE EDITOR OF TIIE SUN.
Stu—Probably you or some of your political
friends may oblige the Public by replying to the
following queries :
Can any good reason be assigned for the
si-
lence of Ministers resvcting the state of the
Spanish A merican question, so long after they have
received the dispatches brought from our Atnbas‘
sailor to Spain by Mr. ELLIOTT, and which con-
tained the final decision of the Spanish Govern'
ment ?

Is it true that an eminent Opposition Member
of a distinguished Assembly expressed an inten-
tion of putting some questions, in his place, oil
this vitally important subject, to an official guar'
ter, but that he suddenly relinquished his pur•
pose, on its being intimated to him that a prema-
lure explanation would be more injurious than
otherwise to the very cau.e which he wished to
serve, inasmuch as any expression of the present
views of this country on South American affairs
must be more prejudicial even than silence to
their prosperity ?

Will Great Britain permit the powerful expe-
dition now preparing in Spain to set sail for
South America, during the continuance of the
French Army of Occupation in the Peninsula

PARIS PAPERS.

[From the Conttitutionnel.l

ats, MAI( 28.—The Prince de Polignac,
.Ambassador at London, is not yet arrived in Pa..
ris as we yesterday announced, but he is expected
every moment. His expected arrival give➢ rise
to many political conjectures. Some say that he
is to enter the Ministry, others affirm that he is
to be present at the approaching Congress, when'
the Sovereigns of the Holy Alliance are to deli-
berate in person respecting the affairs of Soutik
America and Greece.

PORTUGAL.-The Indicalett/. of Bourdeaux
gives some new details respecting the events of
Portugal, from a letter dated Lisbon the nth
Ma v

" The Infant Don Miguel, it is there said, left the Palace of
Bemposta on the 29th of April, ut ten o'clock in the evening,
under the pretext of ordering the extinguishing of the fire which'
had broken out in the street of St. Benedict. It appears that,.
this fire had been premeditated, and it lasted only a quarter in
an hour. But at midnight the Infant run through all the bar-
racks spreading a rumour, that it was wished to assassinate the
King, the Queen, and himself--then he gave orders to the
troops to assemble at three o'clock in the morning, on the Ws'
cio square, to exterminate the Freemasons. He then aban-
doned himself to all the violences of which an account has been
given. 'When sent for to the Palace of his father, he seemed
to repent, and solemnly promised to meddle no more with
Government ; but it is probable that his counsellors excited
him to break his word, for he did not change his conduct-
Lisbon was in a dreadful situation ; two regiments and a
battalion having remained faithful to the Infant, civil war mat
dreaded."

The following is the manner in which the King
quitted Lisbon :
" His Majesty expressed a desire to go to dine on the 9tkill
his Pah:c of Caxias, in the lower part of the River, and 111"
vited the Infant there, who had been on the other side of the
water.
seethe embarked at Belem, his Majesty appeared. t°
desire to English vessel, the Windsor Castle, which
was anchored in the middle river. On arriving on board, the
King issued orders to arrest the Infant, which was imrie"
diately executed. The real head of this revolution, adds the
correspondent, is the Queen ; the Infant acted according to her
suggestions, and had in the first line in his suite, the- lilarqU'S.
d'Ahrantes the son."

The Indicateur terminates by saying, that the
entrance of the French fleet off the mouth of the
Tagus, at the call of the French Ambassador,
had been announced ; he has also, it is said, de-
manded troops by land, but it is presumed that
it will not be necessary for them to cross the
frontier.

( From Galignani's Messenger.)

PARIS, MAY 29.—(Stock Exchange, May (.237
Five o'Clock.)—The market has been very dull,
notwithstanding the approach of settliug dap--
The price of Stocks has experienced a &diner
which is attributed to the fall in the English
Funds, and the uncertainty of the decision of the
of Peers relative to the reimburse-
ment of the Five per Cents. •

Viscount de Flavigny, Secretary of the Dry
bassy to Lisbon, set out on Thursday from parts,
with dispatches for M. Hyde de Neuville.—it
is expected that the report upon the law project
for septennial elections will be brought up t°
the Chamber of Deputies to-day.

[EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM CONSTANTINOPLSP
OF THE 25TH ULTIMO.]
The Ottoman Ministers being desirous to prove
to the Greeks that the wishes of the Powers Of
Europe are favourable to the Porte, proposed Or
the European Consuls to freight vessels to trans"
port the troops of Egypt and Natolia, which are
destined to be landed in the Morea ; the Consuls
urged their neutrality, but the Porte insisted the
Greek-, Senate had already addressed, through
the medium of the Senate of Ipsara, energetic re-
presentations to the Councils residing at Smyrnot
complaining of the secret succour which was af-
forded to the Turks, and declaring that 64
could not spare any hag which was abused for
the purpose of furnishing arms, ammunition, and
provisions to their enemies.

A letter from Trieste, of the 15th instant/
states, that Ibrahim Bey, who had rebelled
against the Viceroy of Egypt, and made himself
master of the citadel of Cairo, has received aye'
cret finnan, appointing him to the Vice-Rovaityl
which was delivered by the Envoy of the l'orte•
This firman promotes him to the rank of Cow..
ralissimo of the Ottoman forces.
SITTINGS OF THE 28TH INST.—The Order of
the Day was the renewal of the Debate upon the
reimbursement of the 5 per cents. The Minister
of the Interior, and the Marquess Hebbourelle,
spoke in favour of the project ; and the Duke 01
Choiseul upon it.

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FRENCH FU NDS.—PARIS, MAY 29.—Five per Cents.lo4.'
Bank Stock, 2002. 50.—Neapolitan 5 per Cents., in duca,t4;
95 in Francs, 101.—. Renter d'Espagne, 19.—Royal Span'
Loan, 644.--Exchange on London : one month, 25. 15,"
three months, 25. 10.—(fours Authentique, May 29.)

BOW-STREET.—(Tins DAY.)
A Gentleman, resident No. 7, Euston-place,
was summoned by a Hackney-coachman, under the following
circumstances :-A)n Friday last the servant of the above Gen-
tleman called him off the stand, and 'after keeping him an hour
at the door told him he was not wanted, and refused giving hi"'
any thing for his time. The Gentleman disclaimed all know-
led
ge of the affair, but admitted that coaches were hired on the
night in question, as he had a large party at his house. Mr.
Ml:Tann x.y. told him that he must pay the fare and expences,
which he accordingly did.

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