The Sun.
London, England, 1841-08-28 00:00:00

Xo person had a higher opinion of the Hon. Members who htd just
left the House than he (Mr. Wallace) had, but he felt they were
in error when they considered it t'llght not to be introduced.
His opinions Avert .s well ki.own as those of any of those
Hon. Mernbere, and he defied any man to say that he ever
kept back his voice when he 'had an opportunity. He hoped the
present debate would reach her Majesty, and that she would, at any
rate, know that there were some of her Commons who gave tiled.
hearty support to that motion,

Mr. T. S. DUNCOMBE was not surprised that Hon. Gentknaea
thought this to be an unprofitable debate.—(Tory cheers:)
He said an unprofitable debate, because not much sit h'd or Com-
fort, or consolation, was contained in it for the working.classes of
the country.—(Hear, heat.) The whole seer e that bad occurred
was worthy of the House—not only what occurred then, but what
occurrtd for the last four nights, and even this long time past. He
considered the Hon. Gentleman had a right to propose any measure
he thought fit at any time he pleased, and especially upon an Address
to the Crown. He (Mr. D) was but discharging his conscientious
duty; and when Hon. Gentlemen said he had no right to propose his
amendment without consulting them, they quitted the House, and
left them in the hands of their enemies. He (Mr. D) liked to see
open and manly enemies, and net professing friends.— (Cheers and
laughter.) He himself, Voted for it, because it was con.
sistent with his former actions. In the year 1839 he pro-
posed a similar amendment upon an address to the Crown,
and he could not but give his vote for the amendment on the
present occasion. Twenty.six persons voted for the amendment.
It was totally impossible that the present state of the representa-
tion could continue. He knew the Right Hon. Baronet consi-
dered the Reform Bill a final settlement, but he would find no
contentment until the basis of the representation was extended.
He presented last Session a petition signed by 1,400,000 persons,
and such a manifestation was well-worthy of deep consideration.—
(Hear, hear, hear.) It was a matter of perfect indifference whether
2, 20, or 200 persons, voted for the amendment, but he hoped it
would be persevered in. He would give it his most cordial support.
Dr. BO WRING, amidst loud cries of" Oh, oh," said he would
support the motion of his Hon. Friend, and he would try, in the
midst of the dejection caused by that morning's division, to infuse
into it one drop of sweetness. The Hon. Gentleman sat down
amidst the laughter and confusion that ensued.
Mr. WILLIAMS would support the amendment of the Hon.
Member for Rochdale. What did the amendment propose ? Her
Majesty in her Speech states that there was distress in the coun-
try.and that proof had been furnished during the course of the
debate that the distress existed to an extent unknown before.
What did the Hon. Member state by his amendment? Why,
that the people were not represented in that House, and that that
was the cause of their distresses. The Hon. Member for Rochdale
wished to communicate the fact to her Majesty ; and such being
his object, was he to be told that because they had no responsible
Minister, they were not to make such a representation ? Since he
had sat in that House he had.not been a party man.—(Oh, oh.)—
and whatever support he had. given to Ministers was not. to the
men, but to their measures. He would give his most cordial sup.
port to every measure that should be brought forward by the Right
Hon. Baronet opposite, if he thought these measures calculated to
benefit the country.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. PROTHEROE thought that the present was a most inap-
propriate time to bring forward so important a subject. They had
at the present time no responsible Government, and he should there.
fore follow the example of the Hon. Member for Sheffield, and .de.
dine voting at all upon the subject.
Mr. TURNER, although he thought the constituency ought to
bo enlarged, especially in the counties, still, under the eircum.
stances of the present time, he could not consistently vote for the
amendment of the Hon. Member for Rochdale.
Colonel RA WDON rose, amidst loud cries of " Oh, oh," and
" Divide." He could not agree with the Hon. Member for Shef.
field, that this was an improper time for considering the mo-
tion of the Hon. Member. The first act of a new Government
would be to ask for supplies, Then, before granting
money, they ought to discuss and remedy, at least they ought to
make the grievances of the people known.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided,
when there appeared—

For the amendment
Against it
Majority — 244
On our return to the gallery we found
Sir R. PEEL on his legs, stating that least any disrespect migh
be supposed to arise from the present vote, he should move, accord-
ing to the usual precedents, that her Majesty's Speech be taken into
consideration on Monday next. —Agreed to.
The House then adjourned.

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