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that he had never heatxt him make a greater failure; and that
being the miser he appealed to the House that with the power
of the Right How. Gentleman, whom they knew fur a great
waster of rhetoric, that thin proved he had a bad vase. At
present, he would only say,that they could not, do better. than.
join irrtite sentimentrexPressedtiy the Right Huh. GCtst...; and
Ile hoped that they all heartily,frorn the WI tom of (heir hearts
peeped with him: for the success of the Spersiards.(Chiers.).
fie hoped they all continued to see with unabated horror the
atrocious and msolent pretensions Of the rain and empty fac-
tion which was urging this dark-tranmetion—t his deed which
violated every sentiment of liherty, and every principle of
nottesty.,—(Chters,l—lt Was not he French allay thet was to
be stiginatited fur this deed-.--the greater part of them heartily
hated the work of plunder and cant they were sent torn.
Befatiie a few emigrants wished to stir up a count cr.-revolution
its hopes of getting back the confiscated estates, and a few
priests their well-forfeited tithes, this bloody tragedy was 10
be performed. He had heard the Right Hun. Gentlensuit sty
With Pleastire that the war of the Mintiest's' was lint only un •
' just but elesPerate. He would never allow himself to despair
so long as the spirit of freedunt circulated amongst. them.
Not even though the oratorhad begged them to yield, end that
veteran warrior the Duke d'Angottlente--(a lettgll)'=—had laid
his handon the hilt of his sword, would he despair. Their
business was with their Constituents, who'll he believed to he
animated tea man in the cause of Spitin. Having offered tip
°tie low fur the defeat of the ilowthont, he would put up
'another for their condign ptiniihment —a convottimation which
•would be witnessel by all with the greatest delight.---(Hear,
hear, hear I)—The total destruction of their power would'he
anregretted by any but those whose places were concerned,
and no hand would be found again to restore them he migh`t
•eenture to predict. These papers would,. howeYer,sleat e the
:nation either with feelings of bitter disappointment after
,their hopes had been raised, or of sore humilietion.(Loud
cheers.) ••
Mr. CANNING, in explanation, stated that he did'not
raoterise the war With Spain as a desperate enterprise on the
part of France. He had given no: opinion• as to the chances
of its success ; hut lie hail characterised the 'war as one,
which, in the present stale of Europe,- 'was pregnant with
dattkur to ;ill comitriei, and
...null:Illy to France.
Mr. BROUGHAM Was sorry if he hail its any way misre-
. ':trresenteil the htligliMte 6f 14# Right Histioureble Gentlemen,
• - belted certainly underitood to allude to the war with
reference an the chances of success,
Mr. CANNING said he rose with no view of replying to
any of the observation, of the •Hins. and Learned Gentleman,
but merely to state that he looked' fur Ward with satisfaction
to any opportunity which might be afforded him of answering
any'objrctions which might he made to the.course which had
been persited by his Majesty's Government, anti with a per-
fect confidence, that if Alfa cueduct were tried by any of
those tests to which the policy of
.thicerrouents in their in-
' .reign relations could be fairly subjected, they would he found
-- to have been uniformly nitrated by a respect for the inds,
yendence of nationsi,the faith of treaties, and the
.Irotrour
,end interests of the nation,
The Papers were then !lid Open the table
NAVAL AND 'MILITARY PENSIONS DILL
On the motion for bringing up the Report of Ibe Naval and
Military Pensions Bill.
Mr. GRENFELL, after a few observations, whiCh the
nnise, occasioned by Members leaving the Hoists., rendered
inaudible in the gallery, moved-, as an amendment, that the
Report he feceireft that des- six months.
Mr. HERR! ES supported the original motion.
Sir J. YORKE theught that when his Noble Relative (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) came into office, all chicanery
and delusion would have best throe is overboard; but when
he found that Noble Itelettre.giving his support to suck "gues-
liens as this, he suspected that there was' something in the
either of the seat or the office, which was irresistible ; and
Le very witch towed that, if the present Chancellor slid trot
profit by the lecture which he was then reading him, before
six months he a mild he as well appointed for the utfice as his
old friend Vnn.—(l.aughter.)
Mr. HUME characterized the bargain as delusive.
Mr. MARRYArr thought they should 'go on istuingllx-
chequer` Bills, as money could in that way be raised at less
interest than it watrohtained by the bargain fur the Bank
The House then divisled•—•
For the Amendment
- Against .. • ..
Majerity forthe Bill
On our, re-admission we 'found Mr. HUNIE giving notice
that he would oppose the Bill in the third reading.
The House !raving resolved itself into. a Committee of
Supply. •
hie. GOULBURN. in confirmation of the Irish Miscellae
mous Estimate', moved, that h,tbnt. he granted' ter the ex.
iiihes of puhiishing Proclamations, &c. '
.Mr. HUME opposed this upon the ground, that it was
merely is nicest, of bribing the Irish Press. The Ciasiitte last
year cost hinoot. or 4,0001. end only 40 or So copies were
printed. 'flee utiveitiivoients, toy, seesurd always to be in-
sertedna the papers whikii had the smallest circulation,
Mr. GOULBUttN observed, that since his appointment to
office in Ireland there was no such undue preference. In the
twskJoernals which he' read, and which were opposed to Go-
vernment, he knew the Ouvernment Proclahmtionti were
inserted.
After some further obtervations from Sir J. Newport, Mr.
Dills, Mr. O. Bennet, laud Mr. Spring Rice, the Resolution
were agreed to.
•The following Grants were then agreed to
Fur the expense of public Prosecutions, 44,000/.
For Nou confurmi,t Ministers, 8,71 W.
risr Seceding Ministers, 4,0841.
For Pretesteht Dissenting Ministers, 7661. ' •
For Salaries of Irish Lottery Officers, 1,1511.
For Intprovernent of the Harbour of Core, 4,0001
For Irish Civil Contingencies, 15,0001-
roe InlandNarigation, 6,1001.
For the Dublin Police Establishment, 27,000/.
Fur the Salaries end Expences of the Commission of In.
• miry into the Land Revenue of the Crown in Ireland, 1,6511.
For the, Salaries and Expences of the Commission for In-
spiry into the,Salaries and Fees 'of the Officers of the Civil
anal Ecclesiastical Courts of Justice in Ireland, 7,2001.
• ,Fair the Wades and. Expenses of the Retotd Commission,
3,5001.
• For the Expences of the Society for discoontenanci fie vice,
and promoting the knowledge of ehe Christian religion, a,3851.
•" the Howie, then resumed, and the Report was ordered to
be received le-morrow.
The Weights and Measures Bill was re-committed,
'On the motion of Sir •G. CLERK, 'several Amendments
Were introthiced.
The Report cuss ordered to he received on Monday.
The other Older' of the Day were then disposed of ; and
at l'errieve o'Cr.oce Ili% House adjourned.' ..
Moe the Proceedings in the House of Lords, to the Fourth
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P4III4I4SIVNTARY PROCEEpINOB.

' Ilot:SE QF COlimoNS.
Lunw,, -1,4° die Aprilis, 18'2$. •
Aciarte—Cockennouth and Workington, Newcastle and. Eccles.
hall, Barnealey and. Grange Moor,, Bermondsey; Grange
(I.,,ighting),.Stonnall and.Castla Bromwich, Newcastle and
' alYthe:Marsh, and Darlaaton—Bills read a second time, and
inumnitted. Keighley.and 'Kendal—Petition of Trustees. of
• 'the Westerp Disinst, of koad, against, referred to the Corn.
itittee on the 11114 Counsel ordered.
4iiinozz--,Worcester-1-13i11 read a second time, and corn.
'pitted. Lary—Bill reported, to be Ingrossed.
Urn, a V iat• E )1 Tra—iVerces ter-43111 read a second., tim e . and
"committed.' Leeds--Petition of Robert Ray, againet, reetrred
to the-Committeenn the Bill,. Counsel ordered 4,,Nolects.
o.oeuse.:-.Drybeekt Won:o6l'4) • : ''''"'- •. - '
. AT IR W Oltg a-4M afChiStat, . .
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!snag Szwiens . ,
,
p. hI.4O4STKATEa ' ' • Bilk read a2d
a 1t.7
(}oust
ni 1 Al 11
..T u an Prxr AO A ark rrn attNT . mtiTtle44., corn.
Af PittNTICtSII IPS . '
JOT TX 24:414 CV (Ireland) ' ~ - •
.Bannouns, &.c.—tiolyhead and flowth . •
.14t4EMICK, CIOVZ KW &MST AND Taxa.ixou-:-Bill reed' a'
but :time. • • , ' •';', , , -
..,.-Apluar. CA THOLIV CLAlka!—Petitiolia fromtheA rchdeaeonry
• ofAichesterf the Mariwand Canons of St. George's Chapel,
Windsor, and from the Protestants of North Derryvolland,
Magitaracross, and Trory, AGM N.ST ; to lie on•the table:
YZlsTE,y,.:44rdinal tireeri;•'-Petition for additional provision,
-se/erred:to the Ciiinmittie.
A TTQR'N'E V.O MCC wiz. ( Ireland) ,-. Petitions from Jas. Porbes,
• torl..Merchants of*Dublin., 'complaining of,the conduct of.
Trnixtriaf !Kaaris • (Sealant] ). Billy,, as untended, to be
ligipx Durins . ' • - I rinted. • • ...
SWIrAILIWG. ACT A iTigif,lig4lri....:-4i,u to, be read a third time
an Friday. •, • • y , .•
.-.- • -
Poltauttr,-.Bau—Secand-Reading, put off for six .months;
MrssAGE • Flom .:Tlit LORDS-- 'hat they have agreed to
Rayling- Bridge Bill; *ithoili ampulinent., . . , -
oernetito N A I,* } REVIi 0L IA iti'—Seconii. reatlins of thy- Bill
deferred' till -•Alonday'next.''' •
. i.,L,....4......:—.- . .
NOTICE 017,1110T10N .for THI'S.I).A.,Y,.:'
Afr, DroWniolq—Motion regarding tire late ea .017440 Infort
raatiortiOn 1-releend., •'..: : • • ,'' • -
ORDERS of the,DAY for THUS DAY.
1. 17“:09'n of Qatmties.Bill-Zoinmittee..
2. Witigsias Abmiul.Bill...,..fideond Iteading.
3. ,Z).ll.lftari and. Naval ,Pensiont Bill-=Third Reading.
4, Joint Teriano, (ireispci),lpl,committee.

FRANCE AND SPAIN.

PAPERS presented to the HOUSE of COMMONS on the
• : 14th Apti1,",1823.

CIAffS. B.—PARIS AND MADRID.
No.l.
Mr. Secretary Canning to Sir William d Court.
(Extract.) ' Foreign Office, Dec, 3, 1822.
In ord.'r that you itia.ylre "fully informed of the manner in
which the quesuon- of interference in the affairs of Spain has
been treated at the Conferences at Verona, I have directed Co-
pies of the ptincipal Communications received from the Duke
of Wellington ' on that quebtion, to be prepared for you ; and
I herewith transmit them to you for your information.

No. 2.
• .. Mrs. Secretary. Canning to Sir William I Court.
(Extract.) Foreign Office, Dec. 9, 1822.
On the day after 1 had dispatched toy laSt messenger to you,
M. tie
.Colomb, the Spanish Charge d'Affaires, requested a
Conference; at which he first read, and then delivered to me,
the Extract of a Dispatch.from his Court, of which I inclose g
Copy.* . . , : • •
• • See the Inclosure in No. 7, of Verona and Paris Papers.
• - No. I
Mr. Secretary Canning W. Sir William 4 Court.
(Extract.) • Foreign Office, Dec. 9, 1822.
Italie received this morning the Duke of Wellington's final
dispatches from Verona.
No argument will be left unemployed on the part of his Ma-
jesty, which may tend to allay a warlike disposition in his
most Christian "Majesty's Councils. His Majesty's mediation
between France and Spain, if solicited by Spain and accepted
by France, would be gladly given and earnestly exerted to
settle the disputes between those Powers, and to preserve the
peace .of the world.
be,disposed to solicit that mediation, she will entitle
herself to it, first, by redressing our 'grievances,--and second-
ly, by a confidential and spontaneous .assurance, that bis Cae-
tholie Majesty and.his family ate altogether safe from violence.
Upon this latter pOint, it is not intended that you sbould
make any direct demand to the S.pitnili Government. Itcould
not properly find. its :place in it diplomatic communication to
the -Alinister of his .Catholic Majesty.' But M. San Miguel
may be easily led to understand how important an aid would
be afforded.to any interposition of ours in behalf of Spain, if
we could accompany it with a declaration •of our entire convic-
tion; that on this point Europe his nothing to fear •

No. 4.
Mr. Secretary Canning to Sir William 4 Court.
(EXtract.) Foreign Office, Dec.l7, 1822.
r transmit to you an Extract • of a Dispatch which has been
received from the Duke of Wellington at Papsii
You may confidently assure the SpanishAbiater, that no
effort has been, or will-be left untried, on the phrt of his Ma.
jesty, to prevent a war against. Spain.
• See No. 8, Verona and Paris Papers. .

• •No. 6. •
Mr. Secretary Canning to Sir William it Court.
(Extract.) Foreign Office, Dec. 20; •1022).,
• I re-dispatch your Messenger with the inclosed Copy oflitn
Official Note * presented to ihe, French Comment by the
Duke of Wellington the day before his departure from Paris.
You will communicate it.to M. de San Miguel ; and, if de.
sired, will furnish him with a Copy of it. • '
• See Inclosure No. 10, Verona and Paris Papers.
• No. 0.

...
(Exiltrlarkleretary Canningotro Sir `William
I,' cigi (i ce- C°249,t1822
Sir Charles Stuart has transmitted the Answer' Dec.f
the French
Government to the Official Note presented by the Duke of
Wellington at Paris. In that Answer (of which I inclose a
Cope), the French Government, 'reliik it declines accepting
the proffered Mediation of -his Majesty, on the ,ground that
there is no specific point of difference to the. removal or explan.
stied of which Mediation 'can be distinctly applied, expresses
nevertheless the pleasure with which it views the "conciliatory
dispositions" of the British Government, and the hope which
it derives from those dispositions, of the continuanee.of Peace
In Europe.
Sir G. Stuart at the same time, reports to Me the Instructions
Syliich have been transmitted by the French GovernmentS tot
their Minister at Madrid: M. tie Marcellus has been with me
this morning, for the purpose of making, by .order of bis
Government, a similar communication. . • :
As the object at Verona was to induce us to Make common
cause with all ; so the object of France, since she has to a cer-
tain degree reconsidered for herself the measures framed at
'Verona, appears to 'be to induce us to concur in her separate
and mitigated measure.
The truth is, as you are aware, that our objection to joining
in the meaetur .:s settled. at Verona was on objection qf principle.
not of degree,—.-an objection not capable, therefor?, of being
overcome by a mere modification of the execution of them.
It would have been idle to offer our Mediation to France, 'if
we had been prepared to unite with her in the conditional
Menace contained in the Dispatch which she haS now addressed
to her Minister at Madrid--n menace softened perhaps in its
tering, and less precise us to the conditions on which it depends
than 'those of the other Continental -Powers, in.Pr .s•rtu.
V Icrous Ix Pitt srcipLE, as at once demanding of some-
thing to be done in the arrangement of her internal concerns,
and denouncing (in however comparatively distant and obscure
a manner) War as the consequence of refusal.'
In speaking to M. de San Miguel upon the subject of those
Instructions, sou wiildirelaitn for your Government any parti.
cipation in this proceeding of the French Government. But
you will avow the deep interest which the King, our Master,
feels in the agitations now prevailing in Spain; his Majesty's
anxious hope that, the Spanish Government and Nation may
avoid any excess, either in action or in lanuage ; anti his
Majesty's unabated desire to employ his Good Offices in what.
ever way may be most useful to Spam, for averting the dangers
with which she is threatened, and for reconciling her to France
and to all Europe.
' • See No. 12, in Verona and Paris Papers.
f Dispatch from M. tie Villele to M. Lagarde, dated Paris,
Dee. 25, 1822.

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$O. .
Mr. Seetetary Canning to 7
Sir William A Court.
(Extract.) • Foreign Office, Dec. 29, 1822.
It may be offlo much use to you, in the present critical- state
of things, to have with you some person in the Duke of Wel.
lington'it entire confidence, and capable of communicating in
his' Grace's name with Individuals whom he has personally
known, and who are now in the Spanish Government or Coun-
cils, that Lord Fitzroy Somerset has agreed to undertake a
journey to Madrid, for the purpose of affording you such
assistance.
He will set off in the course of next week, and will remain
at Madrid as-long as you think he can be useful to you.