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meat, such influeOce to. exist,owas that a .reasua
why.they should refuse to accept of office ? Whet-'
ever influence the oi-fliers of the Hothsehold might
be sup -e to 1 • wo not that influence be
pos have, ,
as
oveli out of olEce as in ? Would not that in-
thience be as much exerted if they Were out 'of
office as if they had taken upon themselves the
Administration of the Government of the coun-
try Was the conduct of the Noble Lords in de.-
clining office on ,such grounds the way to leafd
the phbliC mind less open to unfavourable ithpees-
sioui Having got those points conceded, Which-
they had cousidered -to be the objects
they had in.vieW, would have had them mah.h.
a peace-offering' of the yest. If they looked on
the state of the country, was it wise, was it pa=
litie to stamp with the colour 'of truth those Tu-
mours which had ,one forth on the subject of
this influence toitthe public ? And what was the
the adVantage to, be gained, if that for which they
contended had beet), given,? Would that lhave
_given stabilityiOd etlitiency to their Adminis-
tration ? kiocy stood this Matter of ihilluence with
respect to the country ? How was it ma ifested ?
Wert, htiey to suppose that it -pre vP.i:ted the Prince
kohl caking the Noble Lords and dieir friends to
;oilice; 'when he was first made otegent, or that it
• opposed their biting stuinuoned to his Couneils
/iv.heri the Ite,;trictions ceased, to the iajur of the
country ? No pruoi of tills appeared, and the con-
duct of the Phineto in this respect, had been ap
.plaude.d by the country, There appeared before
the .oation no proof of the .existenee of this-
; and the lioh;le Lorchoowhooe liarnc, he bud
mentionetd, by refasing to acceht ci oiiice, CT.' ain't
a reason, et a time !ihe his, l:4.di in his Opion, de-
barred theno,elV2 tAiug a pllO-e. in thcGdveru -
meat at pceseoto and be should think himself
. co-fp/hie if he v,-ere to say Othetwise. He
had the horooir of a perooral aconalotanee with •
Lord Grey*. and. no inati caehhi adatirethat
man's great,talents more thati.' I.le. hid
'not the honour to 'he Petoho.inally. acquainted tvith
Lord Grenaile, but i:o;,qh-e more siticerely
mired , his abilities than :he clicl I tea was skator
such talents were lost to the coat-try. }IC was• •
sorhy''qNy 'wee not gained to the pt'ihnie eervieea
bqt fie "teas satisfied that they could to,o: be thined.
Still, however, he waB not satistied with the ar-
rangements Which been made ; he still ttothttit. a
stronger Administra.tion tha!o the pieStoitynioht
- have been formed, without either -of the
trio Noble Lords ; -but if the I`cohole Lord
ployed to form an Administrat:on (Lord Moira)
had, when he gahte.up-the commission with whiCh
he had beets honoured, on .I\lo-aday last, advised
Ifis Royal HighneSs to 'call upon his old advisers
'to forum an 'Admihistration, he ought not to be
surprised at what he saw.- He -wiShed to see an
Adiainistration raised stronger than the present ;
One to which the country might look up with
'eonfidenee. Such ano‘dministration, he thought,
night be raised, if his Royal Highness Were
enabled to avail himself of the talents in the coun7
try: With this feeliog,, he had-drown tip an 4A.d-
dress, in which he hoped the House would eoneur.
•_ If, however, he was disappointed in this respect,
he-should at all events have the satisfaction. of re-
: fleeting that he bad zealously endeavoured .to gala
'for his country the best Administration that could
be obtained. He concluded by'movin;-,
" That an humblearid dutiful Address be presented to his
Royal Highness the. Prince Rt;vent, humbly thanking him for
his most'grarions answer tO.th" address Of that House of the,
21st of May; lamenting the failure of his etideasnurS to forum
'an Administrition on a more-extended basis, and at the same
time expressing an earnest trope- that be would avail himself
of any opportunity that May occur of actuiring additilnal
strength to his Majesty's Governmeut.' •
Mr. CAJITWRIGHT objected, to the proposed Ad—
dress, ash thought it went to attach a something
like blame to the Illuetriotis Persoliege, Noliosc
dry it was to eXercise.the executive power. •xis
• • his opinion no blame whatever roopearel to attach
itself to the executive branch of • the Government. -I
.If the House did not•snpport the Goverament ofs:
'Lord Liverpo6l, under eireionstatiees like the pre-2
sent, he thooght -their' conduct would throw the
eXectitive back on that party by whorn his over-'
'tines had been rejected. :This he 'was most anxi.,-
ous to avert, and would therefore give the. motion
his Most decided negative.
Taird FOLKSTONE thought the Am cress inade-
ohateto the purpose for which it was moved: At
a crisis too, so-alarming as the preset:tole bony:tit'
it heeesSsory to express their sehse 0,'.: the preserit
Situation .of ,the country. On this • ground he
thought the HOn. Gentleman ought to have rested
his •inoth-mo and not Orithe Cabinet negociationS,
with which they had nothing to do. it Was their
...,Inisiness.tO consider the present lairientabhz state
of the country, and the hands entrusted with the.
administration of its affairs, without -Concerning
themselves vvithtthe Cabiiiet riegocktions pending.
out 'of doors. If there were one part of the eoti-
stitution more saqed than another, it* Washthht
which left the alipointment at Ministers Whoilfto
the Chief ..M:igistrate.of this country.' .Any
terferehce with the CroWn in thiS. respect, be con-
sidered as. extremely improper and uncometitu-
tiord. He also thought the Hon. Gent. wrtoig
in censuring the Noble Lords far refn§ing-to
office, as he (Lord F.) conceived that it was in
the breast of every mau to- accept or to refuse
proposition to place himself in a responsible situa-
tion ;
.and that every Man was at liberty to reftise
without subjecting himself fairly to censure. He
thought the lion. Gentleman had •proceeded too
far when *he
,censured the Noble Lords, ••••:s there
might haVe been a something latent, a soinethintt
concealed, which influenced their condileth cif
which he could kuow nothing', but 'whieti, `roßl'oht
make it impossible. for them to. dose -Arith• the
overtures made to ;them, with Ilona& to them-
selves or with advantage to the country.' •The
House ought to take into their consideration the
state of the finaucei of the countr:et•T her relatichts

with foreign powers; and her situation at. home,
in 'order to iliotne a suitable address in the present
state of thin s. It was almost impossible to look
at the papers lately prese.nted to the House, and
not be-alarmed at.the idea.of the country r main-
ing in the hands of thesenae men who had brought
it -i oto its present situation. 'From those it ap-
peared; that the official value of British ma-
nufactures, exported cvitbir, the Fist- 12 months,
short' Of the amount of thovt of the prec6ding
year by 10,000,0001. -The" cum. raised by. fiafe:;
Within the same period bad fallen off by-thtte
million ptienids, while the expenditure of thd
country was increased by iive poutiefg.
this 'subject `he would not dwell but it w'riS
ject of reasonable alarm to see the C.6venittient
of the country entrusted to the settle persons who,
at the beginning of the present war, "had been
declared by a vote of thateHouse to be incompe-
tent to carry on' the Adminisoration. He con-
clude&bytnoying as an aratindynert.to the original
motion, to take from it ,at/ the words Flt the
word that," for the purpoSe of stating t' the
deep 'regret of that tiouse, that his Royal High-
ness's endeavours o). carry into effect the Address
-of that Honse of the 21st of May last, praying
for aistrong Administration, had Ultimately
That that Howse saw with the greatest sorrow,
after his Royal Highness's
.reost gracious aeswer
to their former address, that liewoutd irrimediate-
lv attend to it, and after the anxious "expecta-
tions' of the country excited in consequence, that
be had -again entrusted the Go'vernment- of the
- country to the same men, against whom the
former opinion of that House aptieareiljecorded.
That under these
.cireumstatices; it 'vas the
'bouiden ;din ytpf• that House again to address hiS
oral IlighneA on the perilous and alarming state
Of realm,- ant(toint;Orni ii in, that after ail the
sectifices made.iV thr;--long nod trying contest its
which the etitintiiiS•erigagttl, nothing but dan-
ger appeared before it, as it appeared from pa- .
pers laid before that House,. that the commerce
and trade of, the country were in u state of the
most rapid decay, 'and tee. taxes . less productive
than formerly. That while the resources of the
Country were thus irap?Tired,, the public erpendi-
' 'tire heti incref-ised by several millions. in ag-gra-
. vatioU Cf all these- evils, the current coin of the
realm had altogether disappeared, anti a paper
currency, 'intrinsieal!T of no value, was now
;
made .. t.. tender : that. that House could
not but think the present system must lead to a
:national banitrUptey, with all the fatal come-
' tie.eees of such a:calamity. Thus situated, they
telt it to be their duty to.iniplute his Royallligb-
ness, as he Yalued the prosperity of the people.
. and the honour of the Crown, to summon to his
councils such men scone who would pledge the M....
selves to eadeaVour to reform all existing abuses,
and who, by their ykistioirie firmness, and pru-
-'denee,'-might extrintettne-country from its pre..
sent dtfficultios, and preserve it from the dangers
by which it was menaced."
Lord Mieroto rose also to move nn Amend-
ment, but not oue.so voluminous, or embracing.
SO-Many topics, as that of his Noble Friend. He
tlionght,' on sto short a notice, and without an
oppoetitaity of going intothe details, they ought
tint rash loto the presence of the Soveteign
'-etit.h.gino4oldress like the just proposed. He agreed.
withetli4 last
.3oeaker, that the Honourable Gen-
tlemen • (gr. Wortley) had put the question on
a wrong 6oting,'us he fia.d not founded it on the
'situation of the c.torototy, He strongly objected to
tire GOverninellk c4,t-ile country being entrusted to
men who badlieetitvotedoineorepetent, and path-,
colarly to the [tight -LlCeouretle Gentleman nowt
a the head o the fininceS cf. the country (Mr. N.
Vaasltiait), whose appnintraeo't, by the bye,' had
keen the 0(_,.:3A101i of tie lintiour,Thlet Gentleman
giving- his eoticedor that add‘oesti- which had been
carried uo to the Prince Regent. 'He objected to
him, asLe:el; the 'great atite-scate of the present
currency of the coontry. ...Ile could not reconcile
himself to the idea 5f so,eing the Goyei &tient of
the country being eatruste.d to the men who, eioht
-years ago, were ueclacc.o unfit to c,arry it on, when
Mr.Titt•aed Mr. Pox laid aside their rivalry to
put them sewn. These., hoozever, were the men
to whom, now unclei• more trying -circumstaures,
. .
their deteriorated country.was to be entru=sted.
1-k gave his Honourahle Friend (Mr. S. Wortley)
credit for P.' sint7ere wish to see r, strong Admini-
ttration Ico:nied, bat he thonott the Address Le
proposed did not go suiiierentiv fart and that
nototo go further; would lay the House open to
the imputation of pusiquiirnity.t After'some fur-
ther observations, the Noble Lord proposed an
Address, expressing regret that the expectations
held out by the Prince Regent's answer to the Ad-
dress of that House had ,nor yet been realises!,
'assuring him of a continuance of their zealous
_ support in such measores as they conceived most
conducive to its interests at home and abroad, and
imploring him no longer to defer forming such an
Administration as would be at once entitled to the
support of i?arliament and the country.
The SPEAK tea observed, the Noble Lord could
not move his Address at present. T,he sense of
the !-louse could not he taken upon it till that al-
ready be,fore it were negatived. fie could therci
fore only btoconsidered as havinggiven notiee:thut
he would. move .an Address when- the proper time
- came.

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Mr. M. MONTAGUE, though he could not think
the-pr:alkitAdministration so good as might .be
thought it ~equal to 'any that coal be
•forned by the opposite party. They lid formed
part of an Administration had carried ou
the business of the country fora long time, and
vr'ho-hAotya Lx .opinion, and he believed in the
opinion of the 1.4,-I,llic, carried the glory el e
country to a higher 'pitch than it had.,,i.mer becu
-carried before. .(le 'eulogized the con,ict o toe
Prince on the present occasion ; lameuted the Eli'S•