The Sun.
London, England, 1841-11-15 00:00:00

MORNING SUN

AMERICAN 7'.fk-EWS

UIT STATES
• ARRIVAL OF-NT HEED PACKET SHIP. GARRICK.
LIVERPOOL, Nov. 13.—The Garrick arrived
She
this morning shortly before eleven o'clock.
',he was telegraphed yesterday as having passed
41-alpie6il in the aftetnoon, and the storm ,which
86t 'at night preventing her arrival, serious
vkl,i,i.;,'Artrs for her safety were entertained. The Gar-
lek was wrecked off Saudyho.k some twelve
.111611111 s since, while going into New York, owing
.to a sudden storm arising-, and it was feared she
• '9%1,,w0u1d have gone to pieces. She, however, rode
• out the storm of last night triumphantly, and
arrived this morning in excellent condition.
• The most important event noticed in the
PrtPers, is the death of Mr. John Forsyth, Fo-
' teiga Secretary during the Presidency of Van
-uuren; The deceased expired at Washington,
after as illness of three weeks, from congestive
ever, and his death is -the subject of general
Fregret amongst all parties in the Union. Mr.
orsyth filledtt various periods influential situa-
:.: 11a in the American Republic. He was a man
tly-,.:!zlf considerable. talent.
At new Orleans the mortality was on the in-
's'l;:-„the"e• The yellow fever was more virulent
Dan It had been for several previous years.
-
tIE, the week ending October 11, the number
ifieit,,f deaths amounted to 188, of which number 118
been carried off by yellow fever. .
Tiie steamer Columbia which carried out Lord
Qrlaeth, arrived at Halifax 'after a boisterous
Tia g e of something more than fifteen days.
ri same steamer would sail again the 3d inst.,
, tenerl
nu* taay be looked for to-morrow. She was
aly
expected to have made her appearance
here to-day, the wind having been so much in
ver favour. The intelligence by the in-coming
‘',..earner will only be five days later from New
,1113,r,k than that brought to-day by the Garrick,
1-Loch:brought news six days later than by the
ast arrival.
M`Lend' had arrived at St. John's. All the
tieleeants of his having left for England prove,
erefore, incorrect.
he
toTA.mericans are paying high compliments
4,,,t,he Prince Joinville. He was visiting Boston,
to the good citizens, were putting themselves
r extraordinary pains to give him a suitable
eeeption.
4The Money Market had rather improved.
pr„ttrge amount of Stock Securities had been sold
itth,-;l°as to the departure of the Garrick, at
de'atleed prices. The principal sales of other
o;seriptions of Stock were Delaware and Hud-
il, *United States Bank, and Harlem, .which
thymved considerably upon the sales given in.
flu Vast accounts.
accounts from Europe do not seem to in-
tnenee stock transactions generally, to any ex-
et' though it is the prevailing opinion that
ve'netary affairs there have _now reached the
falr,Y lowest point, and any change must be of a
°I-Irable
_character: •

4guNEY andMMERCIAL NEWS.
, .
4 (From The -Sun of-Saturday Evening.)
ha vtßPool. COTTON M_4:EKET, Nov. 12.—We have
and a Very heavy Cotton Market throughout the week,
• etiliPr"a of all descriptions have declined id. per lb. Spe-
•tnrs have taken 500 American, and exporters 500
huat
and 100 American. The public sales to-day have
decfi t v"..Y Poor attendance, and Sea Island sold at a
sale 3 "(' of id. to ld. per lb. compared with the public
" Oct. 8.
-,IV E r„
actions ' ‘,Ol. OLIARE MALMET, Nov. 12.—The transd-
.4'.B at the Stock Exchange this day are thus reportc
75. Ch-land Counties, New Shares, 32* ; North Union,
ties ;
,Edinburgh and Glasgow, 431 ; Eastern Conn-
-1.; Manchester, Bolton, and Bury, 53.
114 4I,NettESTEIt STOCK. EXCHANGE, Nov.
12.—We
aetioe 'lad a rather dull market
.to-day. Our only trans-
the,T na are:—Manchester an Birmingham, 22; Man-
ther and Leeds,,s6; D i itto shares, 23.
Man-
ski : Quarterly Averages of the Weekly Liabilities
0 2 'l, 'sets of the -Bank of England, published in the
allaole`te of last night, compared with -the last returns,
tie," a decrease in the circulation of 320,0001. ; in the
a/IL:flits of 144,00 CL ; in the securities, of 301,000 L ;
Tlll the bullion, of 222,0001.
' New York packet ship Garrick has arrived off
behead from New York. The day fixed for her leaving
041. was the 25th ult., which will be six days later than
The
advises.
the Colnmbia steam-ship, which was to sail from
to ton On the Ist, and Halifax on the 3d inst., is expected
• 414174 at Liverpool either to-day or early to-morrow
,Th ni.g :
4.4101;„%e is not the slightest alteration in either the
1)14r Y"e7tertolary!oreign Securities from the leaving-off price
Consols are, fur Money, 89*, and for them
b'peseilint, 4CCount, 891 -41; Exchequer Bills,
pe:--c-leuntAketive Stock
.is no v 211-i; Portuguese,lo' Five
Pkim,k, 29130; Ditto Three, 17i_ 18-1. .
. p Cent. OF HUSH STOCKS, DUBLIN, NOV. 11.
Ilite:,"'nt• Consols
' aild Half Stock 97i Grand Canal Stock —
bce Reduced ... Ditto Debs. 6 per cent...
Ililt° New 1830... ...... 981 Ditto 4 per cent. . --...-..
II:. Cent. Debs. 40 Royal Canal Stuck —
here has been but little business doing in either the
11,''sh or Fore ion Securities. Consols arc flat at 80 for
. Ileti:37, and 89* for the Adeount ; Three per Cents.
tits (',. e€l,, 88i 88 ; Three-and-a-Half ditto, 97i 88 ; In-
teilic)(3,, 245; Exchequer Bills, 10 12.
l' gran glan Bonds, 1001 ; Spanish Active Stock, 211 1
Kitt "I', 5 ; Dutch Two-and-a-Hair per Cents.,. 51i ;
~ Tic: Fives, 99i 1.
117,4 Share Market is flat, and but little doing.—Great
'4lb (111:11, ' 794 1 ; London and Brighton, 371 ;'London
'4oeth pinghatn, 158 ; Ditto, Quarter Shares, 214
e ,astern and Dover, 194.
N1,°21.1.°18, Money, 891 ; Ditto Account, 891 1 ; 'Alexi-
..)l.l
4, ' A 4 ; Spanish, 211-i.
liki counts received from Hamburgh state that there
1.,, !k
4. Shiers some large purchases of wheat there recently
°at Pwent to Jersey, where it could be entered with-
are 411 Y restriction from the Corn-laws, which
l'i'es 40,11 in force in that islai.d. These ad-
4,iri a tSO
, remark that it had been supposed,
/tnetil(l,t",7 high price of wheat, that the poorer classes.
`gis snake to rye bread, but that the-attempt to bring
he,sriele into consumption had always failed, even
:lzWheat was dearest.
tg, tin et, surprise is felt that the Bank of England should
44 d ue reducing its circulation, but as its bullion
1 (34
,° "rrea'ing, it is perhaps, however prejudicial
a-4111),1)re manufacturing interests, still a ricces-
gt' eautiwn If the Private and Joint Stock Banks
'irtti,%i(l34tl. the country should follow the example, we may
increased tightness in the money market.
IL, CLOSING PRICES.
g 1);( Stook . BRITISH FIINI4tSo.ck
...
.....
046
a4,4l7:retctc„:tt:as .................. *::: —BgB9st Ditto Bonds
.
Old Annuities
,li "li Red........ 98 iDitte New Annuitie.s —
to, 5 P" 99* IlEz. Bah, 1,0001....21d 12 pm
„e knit.........
AEI, r i Ditto 500/...
Jo., Atlities t 0.....: ..
....
• Ditto , Sraall. .
3 11660.,%,..
..................
1122 i
,-
()ct 14-;(;• "Plre 716 Bank •
Stockier Acct —
°•,l ha Stock for,Acct --
AultConsolsmfor Acct B9ll
......... ••••••
0 _ . RAI FOREIGN FUNDS.
-teli i 5
lir 14), 5 pet r cent.... iPortuguese, 5 per cent.
htikziliail cent loo* 'Ditto, New Ditto —
C49°' 43r04d1. - 'Prussian, 5 per cent. ...
Cal --
Chili 6 eS' 6 per sea IRusstan, 5 per cent —
bitrnbi Per cent...
.... Ditto, Aletallic..
1)0,1 /.24 : 6 Per cent. Spanish, S per cent 2lll
ek4il.ll -' .... Ditto, Deferred •• Oi
hTeek,'luB.,l)..er cent.......'... --- French, b per cent. —f. —ne.
Cxica, 4,°, 5 per cent. Exchange —l.• •
hitt% t 0 per cent. ... French, 3 percent —f. •—e
'o44iatiPer cent,Dutch, 21 per cent
5111
'825, 6 per ct. Ditto, 5 per cent.
qr SHARES
eat western Railway (65 paid)
.London and Brighton (50 paid) 37
London and Blackwall Railway (25 paid)... 9
LDitto New Shares ( paid) 2l 14s 2d
ondon and Birmingham (90) ......... ... .. 158
Ditto Quarter Shares ( 5 paid) 22
Ditto New Shares ( 2 paid)
South Eastern and Dover (43 paid)... 20

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1

THE SEWERS.
CO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
t
nh_
Nov.lse
I,lr of the841.
‘;%-Considerable doubt exLisotsndl
asolto, the power
Ole imtikinners of Sewers acting under the authority of
sktutatute 23 Henry VIII., c. 5, and several subsequent
htt to make new sewers. I therefore
hconceive that
ilitio'4l render an important service to t public by
°Pillig Publicity to the following trulyf constitutional
)11;)til given by the present Lord
.Ch.ie Jiustiece
ionf
athne-
4tt °l' Queen's Bench and Sir William
t_c'tkiet,*° a case submitted to them by the Commissioners
• th,-73 for Westminster, and printed in the Appendix
'Ollll4- "ePort of the Select Committee of the House of
)(t)lis (p. 19) dated August 8, 1834.
our 010_1 ' A RATEPAYER.
. vuient servant
Yo QUESTION.
QUESTION.
th,-oare requested to advise whc ther the power given
e. - 'otelnissioners by the Act 2 William and Mary,
1414.4,,..(5• 8, and confirmed by the 47 Geo. 111., ." To order.
Itlid.wskeet the making of any new vaults, sewers, drains,
4tereourses, in all or any of the streets, lanes, and
d
authorityl,lll.ct:ti.ewtias),lloristhaento them to give orders an
building of sewers in those streets,
A4r;°rPublic ways they have been omitted
lf so, to wh the order and direction for the
titter,4ll.g_, or such sewers should be addre:;sed, and if not
If ,t",,u scow it should be enforced ?
.40 11-0.;11 ld be of opinion that the Commissioners
such old
call upon the owners of houses to
wsd, sewers in those streets where they have been omit-
tlto thelteb,i,the Conarnissiorers give orders and directions
i..44e you ueing built by their own workmen, and in that
`lplatierre requested tl,ad advise how such sewers aro to

...._.;llthorize
,_ lko
~oi .. - are of° . OPINION.
,'Pinion that no inference can be strong enough
;,1? ht , ly of a tax upon his Majesty's subjects,
kt, the ~..
11% dzlt tile rer of directing works to be dune will not
11,.) eof doi_ otninissioners to raise Anoney for. the pur-
%‘'ers do u_gotthem. We also think that them general
4 extend to inakinc, ne* Seivers:
° kt.IiENMAN.
W.M„HORNE.

144,,
t..,,tes_inn, Tan
.it,,,,,
..,..... , 27, 1832. .. ,
of verb
Iltile''' 4AOIIDINARY FACT.—A plate
44 , ulb zit, l'aspherries, good in quality
'itt V. tQat this summer has produced, was gathered
:1
.t;t‘
and fine in relish,as
Iltli %I?, 4 farm garden, oceu .ied by Mr. J. Edw tuck', A
~,,, • .4m. treueoz '
-95e7,, too. t. e• ne.ar ootton as .
' W I 13. 'sett
—Wiltshire In-

DUKE OF CORNWALL'S BALL.
Within the next fortnight a " Duke of Cornwall's
Ball," fur the benefit of the poor, might be got up in
every parish in England. The sum that might thus
easily be raised, being devoted at once to the immediate re-
lief of the most necessitous allover the kingdom, would of
itself produce a manifest effect upon the poor generally,
and unite all classes in rejoicing over an event for
which all classes are grateful. We earnestly press this
suggestion on the attention of our readera; three active
minds in each parisN, if united, could accomplish an
object so desirable. This suggestion need not •interfere
with any such plan of permanent commemoration-oas is
contemplated at Eton and elsewhere, by the appoint-
ment of Committees to consider of the best means of
celebrating this event.

During the fortnight every theatre in England should
be opened for the " Duke of Cornwall's night" with the
same view. Thus the young Prince might be made a
general benefactor even in his cradle, and the poor be
taught to bless his name almost as soon as they can
know that he exists.— Atlas.

SUNDAY PERSECUTION IN
EDINBURGH.
TO THE EDIT 01? OF THE SUN.

SIR-I hate and abominate' oppression in all
shapes, but above all that which assumes the
part of religion. The industrious and poor are
suffering quite sufficiently from the cruel and
life-destroying provision laws, without the addi-
tion of religious persecution. The Scotch have
been always, I am proud to say, remarkable for
their observance of the Sabbath; but such con-
duct as that which yOu describe on the part of
those in authority, in the case of the person who
was sent to prison, and his family reduced to the
greatest distress, for selling sweatmeats on a
Sunday, must tend, instead of keeping up that
proper respect, not only to destroy it, but also
to engender a feeling of hostility to religion.
Should the case be as you describe, I beg you
will send the enclosed to Mr. Robertson, in
order that the man may be liberated forthwith.
Your obedient servant,

23, Brook-street, Nov. 13, 1841.

KINNAIRD.

[We have had much pleasure in forwarding-the.
Noble Lord's bounty '(three guineas) to Edin--
burcb.—En. Sun.]
The following is the report of the proceedings
in the Town Council, respecting the victim of
the Church, to which his Lordship's letter re-
fers. We had not room for it at the time, and
on that account, in noticing the prosecution, we
adverted to the conduct of the guilty parties in
more moderate terms than the actual state of facts
warranted. The case, as will be seen by the
report, is still worse than we represented it;
and we trust that subscriptions will pour in, not
only to compensate the sufferers, but to mark
the indignation .of the public against these inhu-
man religionists.
TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.

The Council met on Tuesday, the Lord Pro-
vost in the Chair.

SABBATH OBSERVANCE.

Mr..-RENTorr. called the attention of the Coun-
cil to the case of Butters, inserted in the Scots-
man of Saturday, a case which he considered
most oppreSSiVe, and of which the Council ought
to express their entire. disapproval. He' (Mr.
IL) approved as highly of a proper observance
of the Sabbath as any man, but he did not think
that the best way to attain that object was to
prosecute -persons on such paltry charges as
that of selling a pennyworth of sweeties, while
they left coaches of. all sorts at liberty
to ply on. Sunday as they pleased. Not
only were hackney-coaches allowed to .ply on
Sunday, but ifa coach proprietor should refuse
to do so, he would be liable to a fine next day, in
the Police Court. He appealed to the members
of Council, if they themselves were not in the
habit of occasionally employing these to convey
them to Church and elsewhere, and when such
was the case—when they actually compelled
coach proprietors to break the Sabbath fur their
own and the public convenience—how could
they approve of prosecuting a rr_an for selling a
pennyworth of sweeties ?-- (Hear,, hear.) But
the prosecution was not only bad in itself; it was
of the most oppressive kind. The man was, it
seems, fined Bs.; added to which there were ex-
penses of Court, amounting to 1 ls., and Mr. Dy-
mock's fee, which amounted to no less than
21. 2s. Now this last item required, he thought,
a little explanation. Mr. Dymock had a salary
of 2001. as Procurator Fiscal and why lie should
charge such heavy fees in addition he (Mr. R.)
could not well understand. In these circum-
stances, he begged to move that it be remitted
to a Committee to inquire into the reasonable-
ness of the fee, and to report.
Bailie JOHNSTON said, that as he was one of
the Magistrates before whom the case came for
consultation, and as he had- taken no small
share of the responsibility of the 'prosecution,

he thought he was entitled to take up' their time
for a few moments. And, first, they had been
told that the man was fined for selling. a single
pennyworth of confectionaries. proi,v,.how stood
the fact? The same individual,,Wia been'brought
before Bailie Grieve on a prgimus occasion, for
numerous offences of the saute ikind ; but the
case had been dismissed nierelyrtwith a caution.
The man then, in order:to,eValdh,the law, while
he still sold the confectionaries; pllt'up,the word
" druggist " over his door; but he had again
been brought up notwithstanding, and fined, as
they had heard. Therr, in the second place,
they should bear in mind, that the Magistrates
were, from the very nature of their office, im-
peratively called upon to prosecute those persons
who sold sweetmeats, or trafficked in any way on
the Lord's-day. The Magistrates had nothing to
do with the circumstances of the man whose case
was now before them; they had nothing to do
with his family distress ;. they were bound to give
protection to the public, and when this man
opened his shop on the Sabbath-day directly in
front of St. J ohn, s Church, they were imperatively
called upon to put it down as a nuisance. The chil-
dren attending Mr. Guthrie's church or his Sab-
bath school were getting into the habit of going
to the shop and purchasing sweetmeats, which, in-
dependently ofthe impropriety of the conduct al to-
gether, rendered it impossible for them to attend
to their instructions as they might otherwise do.
As to what Mr. Renton had said about hackney
coaches, he (Bailie J.) would .be glad to assist
him in amending the regulations regarding them,
,but the fact of hackney coaches running on the
Sabbath could never excuse or justify the gross-
-ness of this case; two blacks would never make
a white.—(Hear.) He would just say a word as
to the unwarrantable attack which Mr. Renton
'h .d made on the Procurator. By the old law,

the Magistrates were allowed to fine the guilty
person five pounds Scots, amounting to eight
shillings_ and fourpence of the present currency.
Beyond that they unfortunately could not go,
and, therelbre, that was the fine in the present
case. But, besides, there were two guineas
charged as a fee fur Mr. Dymock, and I ls. of other
expenses. The two guineas, in this instance, did
not go into Mr. Dymock's pocket—for, in order
to guide him in the case, it being among the
first of the kind for a length of time, he had,
for his own guidance, paid the two guineas to
counsel for advice. So far, then, from gaining
anything fur himself, Mr. Dymock was at this
moment out of pocket by the case.

Mr. ROBERTSON said .he was by no means
satisfied with the explanation. He was, in fact
quite the reverse of satisfied; for he thought
muffle Johnston, so far from improving the
case, had made it worse. It was now admitted
that the case was considered so doubtful that the
Procurator Fiscal did not feel warranted toproceed:
without the opinion of counsel. This was an import-
ant fact,and showed how determined the partywere
to carry out their tyranny and oppression. He
(Mr R.) had seen the man and his family. He
had, infact, just come from seeing the latter, and
he must say that the description given of the wife
was not at all .overcharged. She wag indeed an
interesting, heartbroken-looking woman; and the
child, from the cold to which it ked unavoidably
been exposed in the shop, wav fast dying, if it
was not already dead.—(Hear, hear.) He , had.
also seen the man himself in gaol. When he
waited upon him on Monday he found he had
gaol 18 days, and that his term of impri-
bsuenein in
nent expired on Wednesday, so that he (Mr.
R.) felt it unnecessary to take the measures he
had intended for his liberation, seeing that he
did not choose to sanction the abomination of the
Procurator Fiscal—a man with a public sa-
lary—accumulating expaersmeeosindosoublis aof casethe
The Fiscal, it seems, h
constitution, that
Wasthaitt
spiritdid of o t
ourgive it ti
coaostet;hewhlya-N,vtahoodi,
lda doubthave thet person
benefit supposedthat
Itvoh ebree vgeor
itlhtyereshNso'
ua s
man was a poor man, and doubt ?—(Cries of " Heard,
tlhieeayr.:o)alßd uototnoaktlride
There r et
hWeat
interests
oati
eri
sgtoides.
e portione ros iot
of the
tehneo
community
lo toodooi
ttyl
re
lawt.ho
Owfhtol
le Ipoorives constantly ari tly o
devotedit
o p theirers lips,ut butpersecuting
the_wprhoeoovsiee..
—(Hear, hear.) With respect to Bailie Grieve
he would say that them never wasa
nest or more conscientious magistrate
and he was sure he would not have convicted
the man but from the best of motives; but
even if he had been bound by the statute to im-
pose a fine, was that any excuse for heaping such
exorbitant expenses on the case? If the, Pro-
curator Fiscal was ignorant; he had no right to
be where he was ; and certainly he did not see
why the poor man should be taxed for Mr. Dy-
mock's ignorance. He might mention that the
Governor of the gaol gave the man an excellent
character for good behaviour during the time he
had been there. When he (Mr. R.) saw him on