The Sun.
London, England, 1847-04-13 00:00:00

MR. DOUGLASS and THE BRII,A-o
R L
AND NORTH AMERICAN ROYA .*"' k".
COMPANY.
TO TIIE EDITOR OF THE SUA ▪ ick
Sui,—l regret to find that a letter signed " Yreuv", i 9
Douglass" has been published, in which my rlll3-er
mixed up in a manner that appears to me to be very
traordinary and unjustifiable. Having been aliseo f rlirt
Liverpool for a week on business, I had not trl 91.0 so
opportunity of noticing this, which I shall now
briefly as possible. et
he first time Mr. Frederick Douglass sa- or b
with me was not, as he states, before, but aft 0* Ito'
agreed with my people to arrangements and seccilich
dation for his passage on board the Cambria, with.visrp
he expressed no dissatisfaction to me but the 40Ptr-00
Mr. Douglass had no conversation whatever with Ust
except in the presence of three or four other int
and the whole point of my remarks amounted to 001
that he (Mr. Douglass) when coming from the taro
States some months ago in the same vessel, the Ca7the
as a steerage passenger, was invited by som e of
cabin passengers to enter the saloon, and was thepf
whether intentionally or unintentionally on hi:' oaf
producing, by the observations he made use o:F, seroof
disturbance on board, which required the autb•
ce
of the captain to quell, in order to restore meal
and safety. Under these circumstances I ;00
Mr. Douglass, that had he not enter( d
the arrangements which had been con3Ple
I should undoubtedly have considered it my duity,t,°o4
quire of him, before allowing him to embark, cus,-tlie
pledge that he would neither of himself, nor al, If
desire of others, follow such a course as was like 9
lead to a repetition of such scenes of confusion °atoll
formerly occurred. I added that, from the con versed
that had just taken place between us, it was untlece:or•
ef
Ifshould act or say mere upon the subject. I iner`bsit
told him that 1 should have taken the same collyssai el
his name been John Jones, or anything else, ills";
Frederick Douglass, or had he been the whitest roil
ie
the world. These were my words. glisS
All I find fault with is, that Mr. Frederick I)°tlisce
has withheld the entire conversation which toe's 1./00
between us, and by suppressing the most miaow&
and giving a spurious version has misled the pEtblic,„' for
I admit, to the fullest extent, my accountabi""oo
what was actually done, or actually said, to Mr.. Dollior
by my people ; but, be having so commenced by v? 0,
presenting the conversation I myself had w ith bl
shall not discuss, through the press, either no w or a 3,01,
his allegations as to what took place with ot'aars.
Sir, your most obedient servant,
C yerVl3.
HAS. MAC 1 '-
British and North American Royal Mail
Company, Liverpool, April 12, 1847.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. 00°
SIR,—My accidental absence from town fox a c°
„out
of days has occasioned my seeing at the same time jolt
journal of the 7th and Bth inst., the former of l oser
contains a letter from Mr. F. Douglass, and the 001
some observations of your own on the subj,sct
communication. si

You are pleased to speak " of your intense illsgust
nh
the conduct of the agents of the Cambria;" eeepress
in my opinion, equally unmerited and strong. .othe
Allow me, as oac of the principal proprietorsr
the
Cunard Company, and as the person responsible f°o.l,
directions given to its subordinate agents in thili c°-
to place the matter fairly before your readers. ,Lily
So far as we ourselves are concerned, it is.' rei3eers
matter of perfect indifference whether the 139'ss„--4er
conveyed by our vessels are black, white, or cs
coloured. Non olet nummus ; the fare of one
good as that of another. But if there exists, 35.ncible
tincily affirm that there does, an absolute and icvl-feelli
disgust on the part of a great majority of v rhitenelse'
and particularly of white women, not less i ,
than in America, to come into close contact w:i.thu-;105
mores, are we the proper parties to be blame ;d for
aversion and loathing? Can it be expected I,y orirviog,
their
ht.°
ean areb
vlseehraybi el
biunutgstienrtelhysas
,t annihilate,bt hy opposing proprietors
no tt
theh
eofietr'e
feelings
nr mgo
orser
octirt"fnbotio,
cies, whatever they may be, of a eery great pre P°' teith
1
their customers? It is no longer back than the. 'OO ee'
November last that 43 first class berths havin;; the
gaged on board this very vessel, it so happene a tuf,-dte9
44th and 45th were taken by a black gentle= in 'l,'"
wife, also a black woman. On this circumstan ee w-re Soil
ing known only three days before the ship sailed, an °e'
the London agents, who were without specific ii):oli°1
tions on the matter, having refused to cancel the t`• were
issued tickets, no less than 29 out of 43 berthsecii4
thrown up, and the company sustained a loss e'xceths,
1,1001. Of the parties thus throwing up their ber'rioef
took the trouble to ascertain that 10 only were Aree.t, to
and the remaining 19 English. Are we, I ref eat I et?
blame for refusing to resew the costly exip erirliceote
When the sight and smell of the ajorit of ecrec eale
trymen are so much altered as that their eyes
upon the colour, and their noses agreeably
odour of a negro, we shall gladly welcome th e en'e,
Until then we are compelled by our own into: rests "4.,10
commercial company to place upon the issue of ticke';6,
tallyblacks
statedsuch restrictionsu
gt
Of Mr. Douglass'sHleet
has stated the matte r
in disparagement. nott conditions
wish as
to s: were
as spec'
exaggerationnd
er I
; though he, ough..stiei
cdoondi
was originally issued by a mere lad in the absunce 011.0
msimusptlyadda,nndotwtiothhoauvteomtted mentioning that the tl'tjo
senior clerk, and that the instant the circum s tance f
discovered he was pressed to receive back ,the IncPeue
which had been:thus improperly:taken.—l auySir, Ici
faithful servant,

CHARLES M. BURRO?,
(Of Asgill, Virginie, United S tes)l
Head Manager of the Cunard Company- .01
Maidenhead, Berkshire, April 8.

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MR. COBDEN IN ITALY,—ilie Osservatd .• en 01
tino just received alludes to the flattering rece,;Pti,%,,, °
which Mr. Cobden has been honoured by tis e Pil'ecc'or Naples, and makes mention in general terms •of tfelioir
diality and good-will displayed towards 04 it italis°
countryman by the rank and intelligence of t.I le
Peninsula,
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BIRTHS.
On Easter-eve, at Newton Bushel, Devon, the- wire,°f
Rev. R. S. Hutchings, Curate of Kingstei nton, ciS3 3. °'
On the 7th inst., at Ensemere-hill, Ullgswater, the lad'
J. C. Bristow, Esq., of a son. Ater,'
On the Bth inst., at Holbeacb, Mrs. E. Key, of al datre ('''
On the 9th inst., at Inverness-road, Bayswater, the "'-
Sidney Vardon, Esq., of a son. , pill°
On the 9th inst., at Hanover-villas, Kensin gt°"."
Mrs. M. Hall, of a son. A q oaf
On the 10th inst., in Curzon-street, the wife of .-.**l • P' -
IV•j ,
Esq., of a still-born child.
.
On the 10th inst., at Russell-square, the lady-- nf ,
Whyte, Esq., of a daughter.
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MARRIE. ; t 941
On the Bth inst., at Thorpe, Notts, Theodore Pi foill.e„'ngeo•
of King's Heath, Worcestershire, to Louisa Joy..:e,
daughter of the Rev. Charles Townsend, Rector
.of Tur,,°"„ `oe'ro
On the 10th inst., at St. Pancras New Church, ""i
Howard, of Greenwich, to Susannah, second dau3hter 0
late Henry James Stevens, Esq., of Ralston.

DIE. 0
On the 22d ult., at Rome, LieD
utenant-General Sir vfge
Little Gilmour, K.C.8., Colonel of the 2d Battalion of
Brigade.
On the Ist ;

late 01

'aria, Miss Katharine Wellings►

le Ist inst., at A
Upper Clapton.
Of On the 4th inst., at Maidenhead, Edmund, second Son
the late Richard Goolden, Esq.
1-111
'e.lo
On the 7th inst., at Cheltenham, Commander 1%
co
R.N., of Webbery House, Devon. wife ci
On the 7th inst., at Shipston-on-Stour, Amelia, the
Commander Henry Story, R.N. ed 74;
On the 7th inst., at Stamford-hill, J. Tyrie, Esq., 6g iow el
On the Bth inst., at Bromley, Kent, Charlotte, I
w"Gloa'
the Rev. Alfred Sanderson, late Vicar of Aston Blanc,
cestershire.
On the 9th inst., at Beddington, Charles Francis. the :114/13
son of Joseph Laurence, Esq. J Oil
On the 9th inst., in North AuTey-straet, 31r.
Hebard, aged 62.
On the 10th inst., at Upper Tooting, Surrey,Sara f
daub b
ter of John Melbuish, Esq..
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London: Printed and Published by AfUltDO YOUNG, of 1,1•0 e
Strand, Printer, at The 'Sun Office, N 0.112, Strand, in the rL7-3f
of the Savoy, In the County of OPTMiddlesex, Tuesday, OPT
1847.

his right arm. Mr. Taylor, the divisional surgeon,
ag
instantly sent for, and after the wound had been dress!
he was removed to the Boys! Free Hospital, in t 1
Gray's Inn•road, where be remained until thilitoorria/r
When Mr. Coombe, the presiding magistrate, re'',
ceiving the weak and dejected state in which the prisoaer
was, he most kindly ordered him to be taken into thiei
private room and supplied with every attend on whic
his position required. By some oversight, ivhe._l3 Ih,
prisoner was first locked up he was allowed tC. rei°° $
penknife by the officer on duty.
The facts of the robbery as seated in evidence ar
peared to be, that the prisoner entered the sho p Of
i'Voolstonholme, and offered to pledge a piece • flann;;
While the shopman was looking at it. the prilioner
oherved to take down two pieces of Orleans ;loth °no
Irish linen, which hung near the door and con,: ell gled
under his coat. When taxed with the robiziery hihe
first denied it after having dropped the linen oPn
ground.
When called upon for his defence, he made three.:j
four attempts to speak, and at length said, :ins faii.
voice, that he would say nothing at the present m°l2'eh't
He was fully committed to take his trial suP°ll
charge.
A second charge was preferred against him of havitnel
stolen a waistcoat, but owing to the weak and exhilllo.o
state in which he appeared to be, the hearing of ,5
adjourned.

SOUTHWARK.—(THIS DAY),
Ann Sheen was charged with being concerned
plundering the house of Mr. Driver, No. 16,
square, Blackfriars-road, of jewellery and clothos. A hit)
It appeared that on Sunday last, Mr. Driver and of
wife being from home, left it in care of the two j•
servants. On their return the same night the beth":„•g
drawers were found open, and their contents, c onsis"er
of jewellery and clothes, taken. Among thee f°11: of
articles were a diamond ring and a gold chain..
the servants was at home, but the other (the Iwisenetbe
sister) had absconded. The evidence implies tang the
prisoner was, that on Sunday she was seen leave •
house carrying two bundles, which were traced Wed
house in the Lower Marsh, the landlady of which prove
that the prisoner left them on Sunday night, saying t
belonged to her sister. She bundles were produced, L.,
consisted of a variety of expensive lady's dresses, -her
all of which were identified by the complainant 0&h
property.
die
The prisoner admitted she got the clothing h-at
complainant's house, and that her sister told her '714
they were her own, and desired her to leave them St
place in the Marsh, Lambeth.
: ef
Mr. COTTINGHAM said he should remand the po-a 6
n 3
until her sister was taken into custody, and then corn°l
them both for trial.