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On the motion that theflouseao resolve itself into a COM•
mittee of Supply,
illr. S.-RICE (as we understood) wished to put off the sup-
ply, in order to bring forward his minion relative to the Chief
Baron of Ireland. F:ventually, the Hon. Alember postponed
Idti motion to Friday.
Mr. O'GRADY hoped that the motion would come on, on
Friday without fail.
LEEWARD ISLANDS—A.'OUR AND A RALF PER
CENT. DUTY.
Mr. CR EEVEY rose to call the attention of the House to a
heavy grievance of the Leeward Islands, known by the name
of the Four and a half per Cent. Duty. He held Petitions in
Ida hand front the live islands alrected by this impost; .for it up-
plied only to certain islands; rind was not it general tax upon the
colonies; and the Assemblies of Ilarhatioes, Antigua, St. glut's,
Nevis, anti Montserrat, (not aWare, probably, that they were
petitioning some of their own, pensioners), stated their inability
to bear the tax, and threvi theinselves upon the liberality of
the noose. The Huns Membei then resit the five Petitions to

" That in the Petition from the Island of Antigua the Pet'.
tioners state that they were reducedlo such tin extremity of
distress that, actuated by the unconcroulable impulse of self-
preservation, they can no longer refrain from throwing them-
selves on the wisdom, liberality, and enlightened feeling of
this House, and they pray for such relief as to such magnani-
mous Counsels may seem expedient and Troper.'
" That in the Petition from the Island of Montserrat, the
Petitioners state, that, ' unable any longer to contend with
their difficultit-s, or toward off unassisted, the ruin with which
they arc threatened., they feel themselves under the imperious
necessity of appealing to this Hone& to take into its &Inside-
' ration the miserable condition of that once flourishing but now
declining Colony ; that they have with the utmost concern re-
ceived intelligence of the unavailing representations made by
their friends and connexions in the Mother country to his Mu-
' jestfe Ministers, and whilst they express their regret on the
rejection of the proposed modes of relief, beg to refer the House
. to them as the only efficient means of rescuing km inevitable
destruction that valuable part of his Majesty's dominions.'
" That in the petition front the Island of Nevis, the peti-
tioners state that the period has si length arrived when a silent
subinissiim to the unprecedented distresses which now over-
whelin that unfortunate colony would become a crime in any
class of oubjectl enjoying the rights and privileges of the Bri-
tish Constitution; end that as a respectful appeal to this House
is still open to them, they eagerly avail themselves of this lust
effort for the preservatton of all that is most dear to them in
this world ; that the petitioners have not failed to submit to his
Majesty's Ministers a statement of their grievances under
which they labour ; but that disappointurent has been their
Only reward for every such representation, and they have now
only to implore the benevolent Interpositkus of this House.'
That m the petition from the Island vif St.. Christopher's
the petitioners state, that the distress to- obieb that Colony is
reducer} bath reached that extreme point wizen silence is impos-
sible, anti when a respectful representatirt to this House is be-
come the ultimate means of self-preserien, that the progres-
sive states by which this desolatiOn has ovf.'rsheltned them have,
front time to time, been laid at the fin; of the throne of nor
gracious Monarch, and been made known to his Majesty's Go_
vernment, and that the interfbrence of ti4s House can alone ex-
tricate the petitioners from the most some pressure of tit: &Ili-
ctiltiettylnch beset them.'

"It' it ttrPeitr3 to this nom', o+o one grievance antongy,t
others complained of in each of the foregoing Petitions, is tite
tribute or duty which is exacted *cm these islands, of tour hug-
shell& and a half out of every hundred hogsheads of the=ir
ga • r, with the same proportion-I.:0m:- their runt and all other pro-
ductions of the islands, and that ,such tribute or duties being
exacted exclusively from these t *voted' islands (as they at,.
termed by the Petitioners from St.t Christopher's), whilst all
the other colonies, old as well us new-, are free tivin it, is most
partial and oppressive.
That it further appear, to this tritim, that this partial and
oppresive tribute from- the sugar and runt of the Lecwurd
Islands, is convertml, for the most part, into pensions for ptr.,
sons Of the higitcr orders in the moittl7.`ountry,locintlinst even
mord-writ of the Royal- Family, litini4is of the Crown., lien-I_
hers of 'both Houses of 'Parliartzerit,', their flonilies or (=rec..
bons; and that tinder the present deplorable candition of ti it
Leeward Islands, the further exaction of the tribute from thm
is a scandal Tryon the mother country, and an intolerable
grievance ilium these colonies, which this IlOttse, appealed to
as it has been, is alike hound in honour and jusitce to see re.
moved forthwith." .

:Ali: Secretary CANNING said the mode in which the

Gentlenlan had ehosen to bring forward this motion hate
proved to him that _he was rather anxious to put on record
his eentitnents than to press the point on -the House. He
divided the question into two parts; the first affected the right
of the Crown to this particular branch of revenue ;- the second
affected the right of the Crown to appropriate it in any manner
which might be deemed suitable by his Majesty's Government.
These topics had been frequently discussed within the walls of.
that House, and on each occasion both of these rights had been_
affirmed. And . though he might concede to the lion, Gen-
tleman that the present state of the West India islands might
make it desirable to modify it so as to meet the circumstances,
still when it was .considered that this fund was not now nor
could be placed at the direct disposal of Parliament, without
the exercise of some very unusual harshness on their parts, he
thought the argument of the Honourable Gentleman would
not apply to the case before them. These duties had existed
too lon-g under ,the sanction of Parliement to he affected, as
.a matter of revenue policy, by :his speech. • The next ques-
iien-Was, as -to - the tight of appropriating theth, upon which
no vete of the House for the argument of the Ho.
.Anarable Gentleman to rest upon. Mr. Burke himself, in the
nest sanguine of his efforts for effecting financial. refbrin,
had never entertained a doubt upon the snbject, but left it as
he found it—at- the disposal of the Crown. . The Hon. Gentle.;
man had specified instances of the manner in which this flind
had been disposed of, and in which he supposed some indis-
section to have been practised. As to what had been stated
with respect to his own connection with the fund, he was ready
to admit the fidelity and accuracy of the 'lion. Gentleman. It
was true that many years ago he .had held an of fice, on re-
tiring from which, by constant and uniform • practice, which
had long the sanction of law, he became entitled to a pen--
*ion of 1,2001. a year. It was true that he had retired from
that office with the fullest claim to this pension. It was true
that he declined the pension, choosing to - wave his parti-
. cular right; and it was true that ,it was afterwards coin.
muted for a pension of half the amount for a person who had
direct claims upon his protection.--(Hear,., hear 1)-110 re.
membered, also, with great satisfaction, that at the time this
choice was considered as a considerable sacrifice on his part—.
(Hear I)—flaving said so much for himself, he had little to,add
upon the general question. Certainly it was open to Parliament
to deliberute upon particular instances in the disposal of this
fund, if a case of indiscretion, were made out. The Hun.
Gentleman had exerted this right in a manner of which he
would not complain. He had gone into instances, and com-
plexions of instances which he thought fit subjects for the ob.
nervation of Parliament. • The Hon. Gentleman well knew that
if he (Mr. Canning) chose, he could have taunted him with-the
names of persons in the same situation who were connected with
parties highly respected by the Hon. Gentle an. That mode
was ton inviduous for him to follow. 'fife House had a right
to examine into supposed abusesasto the application of this
the seine as any other branch of the resources. But. he mss
say, that the Hon. Gentleman did not seem to have made oui
any case which was likely to bring upon it a vote of censure
from the House.
Mr. HOM E defended the time and course taken by his
-Hon. Friend for bringing forward this motion. Ile hoped the
. West India proprietors would not vote fur it, as it went to re.
lieve them in their distresses from the burden of the four and
.. halt' per cent. duties.
Mr. BROUGHAM adverted to his former motions on the
Admiralty droits; and said that it was not his fault if' the dis-
cussions upon it were too short, for he had troubled the House
at greater length than he meant to go. on this occasion,—
He justified the manner in which his Honourable Friend
hail brought forward this Motion. It was clearly a principle
upon Which the fund had been administered—that of burden-
ing, as long as there remained any thing of it, with pensions ;
and after the exhaustion, bringing into its aid another fund,
which -might be drawn upon with as much freedom as cir-
cumstances could require. There was one particular ground
for entertaining the motion totally overlooked by the Right
Honourable (gentleman, and that was the unexampled' dis-
tress get forth in the petitions front the Colonies charged with
this tribute. They had always, even in their prosperity, felt it
to be oppressive and grievous ; in their present sufferings and
-sorrow Nit was intolerably burdensome. Never were claims more
opportunely and properly urged—never could the Houle, with
a clearer sense of propriety, go into -discussion as to the
propriety of relieving them from this burden. In Mr. Burke's
history of the European settlements in. the West Indies, he
had denounced these duties as a most burdensome impost,
and his reason for doing so was obvious, because they were
pot 'derived from.profits,•but were taken upon gross produce
—not with any view to particular seasons and circumstances,
but taken when the crops were low, and even if the produce
'turned out to .be an aggregate loss, the same as in seasons of
'the most abundant and profitable crops. Mr. Burke bad the
singular fortune in the course of Ida existence to beccate a pen-
sioner on this very fund. Not that any blame was therefore at-
teibinable to him. He (Mr. Brougham) would not inquire now
_whether a political pension wait or was not. justifiable ; but err.
. ~titinlY„ if at all to be justified, It must be iii the caae of a man
who had lived.all Isis life out of office, and who bad, notwith-
.'reauding, efented.great financial auvinp for the public. Still it •
did so happen that Mr. Burke's pension came out of this very
fund which in earlier life he had denounced. The petitions on the
'table complained of these duties as .• most burdensome: but
though they-were evidently only due from the old colonies, he
reinemhered perfectly well in one case, Hall and Campbell, re-
ported in Cowper, an attempt was made to raise this tax in
Grenada, that being an island which was ceded in 1703; and
the Colony objected to it on the ground that Government had
given them a Constitution, without the concurrence of which
the duty could-not bo imposed. Would tidy then persist in
. levying it upon- the islands of less fertile territory ? What if
`one of their own counties—Cornwell for instance—not having a
very fruitful soil, nor a very favourable climate; should be
charged with tithe, from which all the surrounding counties
were exempt, would that he a state which could be tole.
• rawd ? Yet it was the very argument upon which they must
'enforce the payment' of the duties in the Leeward Islands,
while the others were exempt. .He justified himself, for
not .again bringing forward the motion which he had
repeatedly made respecting the Admiralty Droits. ()n
las first }notion, Mr. Perceval assented • that there was a
compact ' existing between the Crown and Parliament,
which prevented them from going into alteration. He
had, however, obbtined one valuable concession. Mr. Perce-
val distinguished between inspection and controul, and admit-
'-ted, though the latter was out of their power at • the time, they
were at liberty to exercise the former. And, indeed, there were
at the time no slight reasons for entering upon time taalt of in.
spection, for that fund had risen at one period to the sum of
if mfilioas, 3 millions of which-were given by the King towards
the war, and of the remainder there were items which were still
less justifiable. Since then, there had been annually an ac-
want of the fund laid before Parliament; but the votes on all
the occasions- were so discouraging,that he could not undertake
to renew the motion.
The Ilense then divided, when the numbers were—
For the Amendment - - 57
Ageinst it- - 103
Majority —4l;

When strangers were re-admitted,
Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH was on his legs, objecting to
certain Bills which were in the order, being forwarded at a late
hour of the night.
Mr. secretary Pk ET. said, two of the Bills were intended
to be reprinted, and it was proposed to commit them for that
purpose- lle hoped there would be no objection to their going
through a. stage, as one would still remain on which they could
be debated,

CORONATION MOE NCE.
On the 'motion that the Speaker should leave the Chair,
Mr. HUME wished to call the
.attention of the House to a
circumstance of some importance. A paper had been laid on
their table, giving an account. of sums expended on the occa-
sion Of the late Coronation.. It was remarkable front the
length of time whirl Lad elapsed before it was produced, and
for the amount of kepis which it contained, especially as it.
had been stan.ql that a grant of more titan 100,0001. would
• not be wanted. -..He believed it -was 10.0,0001. or 105,000/.
which the late Chancellor Of the E:icliquer had named. He
considered whin Estimates - were given, that the House
wished them to be as accurate as possible; and if, when Ali
tasters gave in an Estimate of 10 ,0001. thsty felt authorized
to incur an expenee of .238,0001. ; he titta•ghtthe folly.or_ the
farce of giving FAtiouttes at all, was not AV Orth keeping up.—
lie was of opinion the House would not do its ditty if were
not to institute some inquiry on ;the subject. In the next place.'
he had to remark,. a very unuanal power had been assumed by
(iovernment. It appeared that 138P001. had been paid- to.
wards the Coronation expences out of the money received front
France as an indentuity. He would ask if Ministers had a right
to do tins ? He considered they had no inure right to do it titan
they hail Soto use any portion of the public money which had
be,,n voted fOr a ditiCrent purpose. lie folind one item as
follows :--" For the furniture and decorations of Westminster
Abbey and Westminster Ball, &c." 111,1721. Now could it be
at:l:pc:s2d that any Set of Ministers however weak, would give
such an estimate its that of which he had spoken, and admit the
item which he had just quoted. Could any thing more strongly
shew that those who acted thus were utterly unacquainted
with what they were about to undertake. Another item was,
" To the Master of the Robes for his Majesty's robes, 24,7041."
:Now he would ask of what use was it for that House to ,re-
ec the salaries of clerks and to diminish small establish-
'men ts, thereby distressing individuals, if money were to be thus
:profusely expended in other matters. Ile could not conceive
if his Majesty had worn a dress of gold that it would have cost.
a.iburth of :hat sum. But a diamond Crown had been worn by
his Majesty on the occasion. If a bauble of that kind were
teccesaary he had no objection to it ; provided the attendant
expence were kept within nual;:ratz limits. But he understood

that bauble habeert made in 1810, and had been kept 'till the
present moment at an expence of 0,000/. or 9,0001. per ann. and
he did not know that the public had as yet done paying for that
diamond bauble. If Ministers sanctioned such an expenditure
he considered them to neglect their duty. ' Besides the item
which he had mentioned first, he found the sum of 50,0001. set
dawn to " the Surveyor-General of the works for fitting up
Westminster Hall and Westminster Abbey platforms." The
manner in which they had been fitted up every bAy knew,
but he understood -the .:expense to have been diminished
by contributions from other dartments. Various small sums
followed, and then he found a grant to Sir George Nayler,
towards the publication of the account of the ceremony,
3,0001. Now, he thoweht,if it were necessary to publish such
a history of the proceelings, that they might have lett it in the
hands of historians, who would have required no such advance,
and who would have looked for payment from those who de-
sired to purchase it. He then noticed the charge of 8,205/. for
snuff-boxes to Foreign .31inisters. He thought enough had
been expended in this way before, and looked at the total
expence for the Coronation, as by far exceeding what ought
to have been incurred. Then the manner in which this money
had been paid, by taking the sum of 138,0001. from the
French indemnity, appeared to him extremely objectionable,
and an act of high disrespect towards that House. He quoted
the Budget statement of the late Chancellor of the Exchequer,
for the year 1821, and a speech made by the late Lord London-
derry,- 1818, to chew that a suns of 51)0,0001. had been men-
tioned as due to the people of this country, and the Chancellor
of the Exchequer had further stated, that atter the sum of half
a million had been received in aid of the Ways and Means
of the year, a small suns would still be due in the follow-
ing year. It therefore appeared to him necessary that the
Reuse should inquire into the circumstance, and he scrupled
not to say, that if' that House were constituted in a different
manner, the way in which this money had been expended would
be likely to subject them to an impeachment. After the state-
ment of 101, he (Mr. H.) had inquired of the Chancellor of the
Exchequerlespecting the French indemnity in 1822. He had
been put off with various excuses, and it was only now in 1823
that the fact came out. This subject he strongly insisted was
one into which it, was the duty of the House.to inquire, what-
ever delay might be caused -by the inquiry. Ile should think
it would not occupy the House more than two or -three days,
but if it would take ten or twenty they ought to go into it.—
He concluded by moving as an amendment, " That as the
amount of 238,288/., which appeared to have been expended
on the occasion of the King's Coronation from an account
lately laid before the house so greatly exceeded the Estimate
of 100,0004, which had been given in 1820, it was expedient
before any further grant in supply should be made to his Ma-
jesty, to appoint a Select Committee to inquire into the circum-
stances which caused that excess of charge, and into the seve-
ral items ; and also tb inquire by what authority the sum of
130,230/. had been applied out of the indemnity received front
France, to cover the said expellees, without the consent of that
House." •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose and said,
that considering the very severe terms which the Hon. Gentle-
man had applied to his Majesty's Government, and as he had
charged them with the grave crimes of being wasteful and pro-
fligate, and of having illegally a'ppronriated the public money,
he thought it would have been but fair if he had given notice
of his intention to make such a motion as that he had just pro-
posed. For himself he had never heard of it until he had entered
the Mose. Being, therefore, totally unprepared to give that mi-
nute explanation which he should otherwise have been very happy
to affind, he must be excused if he should confine himself to a few
general observations. He thought the lion. Gent. should not
have been so much surprised that the actual expences of
the Coronation had exceeded the estimates of 1320, when he re-
collected that the ceremony would, it was supposed, have taken
place in that year. A. large portion of the expence was incurred
before the Government advised his Majesty to postpone the
eiremony : it was therefore obvious that eyen if the estimates
had been enough for that year, they'would he inadequate for the.
next. But when his Hight Hon. Priend and predecessor pro-
'nosed the estimates he had never supposed they were so accurate
that they would not beexceetled. The rarity of the occurrence,
the length of time which had elapsed since the last instance of it,
rendered it impossible to tell its amount. It was of course to be
carried on with the same splendour and magnificence as before;
and whatever the Hon. Gentleman might th i nk,he (the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer) did not believe the country thought it
was unbecoming the station in which it was displayed. But al-
though he was unable to explain the items relative to the fur-
nishing the hall, he could reply satiefactoril to the lion. Gentle-
man's assertion respecting the fund. The lion. Gentleman had
made one very considerable mistake, because although the
amount of the French indemnity had been alluded to at the
period mentioned by the Hon. Gentleman, it was not received
then, nor had any part of it ever been appropriated to this
purpose. A question had been raised in the House as
to the degree of power which his Majesty possessed
over the disposal of this aunt. It was contended that it
could not be appropriated without the specific vote of,the.
House ; and if he did not mistake, the Hon. Member for
Knaresborough had submitted the subject to the Muse. But
the sum front which this was supplied, was the surplus of that
'indemnity charge, and arose troth 2,000,000 of francs which
had been paid ter the fortifications in the Netherlands, and in
aid of the maintenance of the British army in Flanders. This
surplus, then, it was thought to be competent foT the Crown to
dispose of, as might seem expedient to the Government ; and
he could. not see any more natural or proper mode of provid-
ing for the expences which had been incurred. For these rea-
sons, therefore, he could not accede to the Hon. Gentleman's
amendment.

Colonel NAVIES thought that no preparation could have
enabled the Right Honourable Gentleman to answer satisfac-
torily the objections made by the Honourable Member for
Aberdeen. Ile should support the amendment, and wished
that, as some suspicion was entertained with respect to the ap-
propriation of the French indemnities, an account of the man-
ner of their disposal should be laid on the table.
The CHANCELLOR of the'EXCHEQUER said, that it
was a mistake to suppose any part of theni.had been applied as
the Hon. Gentleman imagined ; be had no objection to give up
the account, . _ . .

Mr. 11031 E explained, that he had sent a notice of his in-
tention to mention the subject, but that notice had been acci.
dentally delayed.
Mr. H. G. BENNET reprobated the expenditure, and sup-
ported the 'amendment.
Mr. CURWEIsI hoped, his Hon. Friend the Member for
Aberdeen would not persevere; as, if the money had not been
improperly applied, lie (Mr. Curwen) should be compelled to
oppose the amendment.
Mr. BROUGHAM hoped his Honourable Erica would not
be induced to withdraw his motion, for the inquiry he sought
was the only method by which he could hope to etrect his ob-'
jest. Good God ! was a suns of 24,0001. to be paid for a
dress ? Some Gentlemen might think it was indelicate to go
into those particulars, but for himself he was resolved
to do his duty, side by side, with his lion. Friend (31r.
flume) ; and he would always be found to vote ter inquiry
wherever it appeared to be necessary. Ile by no means thought
the ceremony of the Coronation was a trifling or unnecessary
one. It was a subject of national interest that the state and
splendour of the Monarch should be duly supported; hut it
was also the bounden duty of the House to interpose when
culpable extravagance appeared to have been committed. Ills
Hon. Friend had been informed that the crown'was levied at an
expellee of 0,0001. or 0,0001. a year ; he trusted that this would
be found to be untrue; it could not be necessary at any time,
and certainly not after the ceremony was over. 'Whoever had
advised such a measure (if his Honourable Friend's informa-
tion were correct) ought to pay tbr it out of his own pocket,
and he would be the first to second any Gentleman who should
bring in a Bill to make the Ministers reimburse the money
which this hired crown had eost.7-7(A laugh.).7.loking apart,
he thought that this subject demanded inquiry. Ile wished
to say something respecting the inconvenience which was
felt by the Courts of Justice being, ousted from their proper
seats in Wesurrinster-hall. He hail to complain that the pledge
which the late Chancellor of the Exchequer had given with re-
spect
to this measure had not been fulfilled. The evil was not
confined to the profession only, although it was 'felt most im-
mediately by its members. The connexion of the two courts of
common law anti the two courts of equity with each other, and
of the House of Lords with all of theis, rendered Westminster-
hall the most convenient situation for them : for the last three.
years the courts of common law and equity had been entirely
separated; and every member of the profes4on in the House
would agree with Inns in the inconvenience which had resulted
from this separation.
After a few words from Mr. BrucknT and Sir F. BLAKE,
Mr. /101lIMUSE stated his intention Of voting for the
amendment, and at the same time he would take this opportu-
nity of expressing ahope, that the House, would take some
meamire to provide against the renewal of fees upon commis-
sions io the event of the demise of the Crown. He understood
an expence of 70,000/. would be incurred by thepersons now
holding commissions, if any such accident should happen. As
Westrrunster-hall had been mentioned, he would observe also,
that he trusted the persons in.whose hands the exercise of the

public taste was lodged, would see that that ancient edifice was
not again obstructed; the windows had been opened at con-
siderable expense, and he hoped the public would not have to
pay for closing them again.
The House then divided.

For going into thetommittee
For the Resolution - -
Majority against the Amendment
The House accordingly went into Committee.
On the question being put for granting 160,000!. for Civil
Contingencies,
Mr. 13ERNAL, before the House went into Committee,

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wlshed for-some explanation or the sum which remained una'p-
propiiated on account of Civil Contingencies.
Mr. ARB
UTHNOT said it was impossible to go into par-
ticulars at that moment, but every sum unappropriated had
'been printed and laid before the House. There wasa suni in
the Treasury not accounted for.
' Mr. HUM E said there was 200,000/. voted, of which 180,000/.
was accounted fbr ; he wished to know what became of the
balance.

Mr. LUSHINGTON said he was ready to furnish an ac-
count of such as was moved for.
Mr. HUME found the sum of 2000/. for furniture in nine
yachts, Ile wished his Majesty to have all the splendour of
these vessels, but be thought nine yachts too great an expence.
A Committee of Finance, in 181 H, declared that these ex-
pellees ought not to be brought into the Civil contingencies,
but.in•the expences of the Civil List. He wished to know why,
after that recommendation, the charge in question was made on
the Civil contingencies.
Mr. LUSHINGION'said there was no difficulty'in giving
explanation: The estimates to which the Hon. Member al-
luded were excepted by Act of Parliament from the Civil List
expences.
Mr. ARBUTFINOT said the recommendation was, they
should be charged annually, and not put on the Civil 141st.
Mr. H UM E contended that the expenses of these yachtsought
to he paid for ant of the Civil List.
Mr. J. MARTIN objoeted to a charge of 298/. for convey-
ing the Duke and Duchess of Clarence from Ostend to Eng-
land. He thought that expence ought to have been borne by
the Royal Duke.
Mr. HUME said, 1,389/. charged for the Royal standards
of the Foot Guards was -improperly included in Civil Contin-
gencies.
Mr. LUSH INGTON said, the Royal Standards were ex-
cepted from the Civil List.
Mr. BERN.AL found a charge of 5,1351. for Mr. Plaskett,
Inspector of Aliens. That service had been alreadyiprovided
for in the Miscellaneous Estimates of last Session. The sum
of 3,00111. was also voted l'or the same Mr. Plaskett.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said he believed the sum the Hon.
Member adverted to was in the Estimates of last year; It was
voted, but not appropriated.
Mr. HUAIE wished to know in what situation the Winter

Establishment at Berbice stood,
Mr. LUSIIINOTON said if the Hon. Member would refer
to the Treasury Minute, he would hind that no pains had been
spared to get rid of that property.
Mr. BERNAL wished for some explanation on the subject.
Mr. GOULDURN said the Winter Establishment origin-
ally belonged to the Dutch Government. The. estates were
given back to the Dutch with the excepticin of the Winter
Establishment. It consisted of artisans who were slaves.
Mr. HUME expressed a hope that the slaves would be ma-
numitted rather than remain an expence to this country.
Mr. HUME then said, he came to the must objectionable
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item. The manner in which they were going on with Foreign
Diplomatic expence was most absurd. Every thing was done
at the head-quarters of the Allies, and our Ambassadors might
as well remain at home. He adverted to the expence of 2000/,
for plate at Peteraburgh. The outfit of 15001. for Mr. Wynn,
sent to the Swiss Cantons. He submitted that 1500/. for
clothes to a Gentleman sent upon a lucrative mission was too
much. The amount this year was 61,240/. for extraordinaries
to Ambassadors. Ile contended that a complete revision of
the expence of Ambassadors was necessary. He concluded by
moving to reduce the sum of 160,0001. to 107,291/.
Mr. Secretary CANNING said he did not deny any Hon.
Member the right of fair inquiry, at the same time he felt that a
departure from the rule of Parliamentary inquiry had been ex-
ceeded. With respect to the plate, he could assure the Hon.
Member that since 1816 the plate had been considered the
property of the Crown; the Ambassadors only had the use of
it. The rate of outfit was settled in 1816, and the scale
laid down had never been exceeded. In some instances
the outfit had been withheld. The bargain between the
Crown and Parliament with respect to the Civil List had
been observed. The expences were within the terms of that
bargain, and whilst they did not exceed the amount voted by
Parliament it was useless for any Member to call for particular
details.
LENNARD supported the motion.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the original Motion - - 7,0
For the Amendment
Majority

-,;-t

£2,000 were then propoied for Captain Manby, in remunera.
ion for his services.
Mr. HUME spoke a few words, we understood,, against the
vote, and moved that the Chairman should report progress.
Mr. CURWEN opposed Air. Hume's motmn. •
The House then divided, when there appeared_
For the Motion 511
, For Air. linme's Amendment 10
i%jori ty -
Mr. CitY.XVE'i then moved again that the Chairman
should report progre4s.
The Itmae Immediately divided, when there appeared—
For the Motion - - 35
Against it . . 30
Majority -
The House then resumed, and the Chairman reported pro.
I,7resS, and obtained leave to sit again:
The other Orders of the Day being disposed of, the House
adjourned at a Quarter to Two o'CLocK.

A LIST OF THE MINnRITY
Who voted in favour of the Weavers being heard in Commit-
tee against the Repeal of the Spitaltields Actg.
Abercromby,Hn.J. Grant, J. P. Nolan, M.
Itankes, Henry Grattan, J. O'Grady, Standish
lirnugham, Henry Hutchinson, Hon. Pitt,, J.
Bennet,Hon.l.l.o. C. 11 Pelham, J. C.
Henett, .John . Heber, it, Robertson, A.
Bernal, Ralph Holdsworth, T. Smith, R.
Byng, George Hamilton, Lord A. Smith, W.
Bright,,Henry Iloneywood, W. P. Sumner, 11.
Berestord, Lord G. Irving, John Tulk, C. A.
Calvert, C. Jones, John Wood, Ald.
Calvert, N. Kennedy, T. n Wood, Col.
Caleraft, .John Knatelibull, Sir E. White, Luke
Cripps, J. King, Sir J, D. White. 'Colonel
Campbell, Leader, W Whitbread, S. C.
Cooper, R. B. Lennard, T. B. Westenra, Hn. H
Curwen, J. C. . Munday, p. Williams, J.
Denison, W. J. Mansfield, J. Williams, Sir R.
Ebrington, Visa- ' Moore,- Peter
Farrand, It. M‘lntosh, Sir J.
Gurney, Hudson ' I%tonck„l, R.
Glenorchy, Visa. Maxwell, J.

TELLERS.
Ellice, Ed.
Buxton, 'l'. F.

LAW INTiEEIGEICE.

COURT OF KING'S BENCH, MONDAY, JuxE U.
The LORD CTitEF JPSTICE brought into Court his Ma-
jesty's warrant directing two or more of the Judges to sit for
the dispatch of the arrears of business after the present term.
His Lordship stated, that in obedience to this command, his
learned brothers would sit in a room adjoining that• in which
the Court is held, on the 23d inst. and continue their sittings
fur a fortnight.

THE X!?V. JOLLIFFE.
This was a quo warrant() information, calling upon the
.de.
fendant to chew by what authority beheld the office of Mayor
of Peterstield. The objection to his appointment was, that he
was nominated by a court-leet not duly nominated, inasmuch
as the lest had been nominated or selected by the steward of
the court after they had been summoned by the bailiff. At the
trial before Mr. Justice Iltirrough, at the last Summer Assizes
for Hampshire; the first question was, Whether there was a
custom in the manor so to nominate the Jury by the steward?
and, second, Whether, supposing such a custom to exist, it
was a good custom in point of law ? The Jury found the
custom to exist in fact; and, under the Learned judge'? .11irec-
tions, a verdict was entered for the defendant. In Michtklmas
Term a rule, niskwas obtained for a new trial, or for entering
a verdict for tilt) Crown, notwithstanding the finding of the
Jury.

Mr. SCARLETT, Mr. ADAM, Mr. MEnEwnTtiEn, and
Mr. C. P. WILLIAMS, now spewed cringe against the rule;
and Mr. GASELEE, Mr. Comrstax, and Mr. PAILTER, were
heard in support of it.
The Coll RT were clearly of opinion, first, that as there was
no evidence on the part of the Crown to negative the custom,
which appeared to have existed for at least 20 years, there was
no ground for a new trial ; and,
second,' that the custom would
not sanction a deviation from the general practice, and warrant
the steward of a leet, although the Judge of the Court, in no=
minating.his own
Jury, and assisting and directing them in
forming their presentments and electing the officers of the leet.
—Rule discharged.

TUE KIWG v. O'MEARA.
Mr. PaTTEsow, on behalf of the defendant, applied to the
Court to fix a day for hearing this case. Ills client was most
anxious to have the opportunity of showing cause, and had
done all in his power to bring the case before the Court. It
was understood that it should come ott this day, but no oppor-
tunitv of moving it bad been'given.'
Ttie Lord entEr .1u wrier —Betbre you make a request,
ought you not to inquire whether we have the power to grant
it ? It' you had been ready on the first day of term on both
sides, the case would have been heard in its order: As it was
not heard then, we cannot interfere.
Mr. PAT ESO N Kahl that 6:0 defendant was then quite ready,
but the delay arose from the prosecutor's counsel.
The Lord Cllllll.' JUSTICE repeated that he could say no-
thing on the subject, and the conversation dropped.