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LONDON :
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1841.

last 18,e°111it MtLsot:RNr, in the House of Lords
ks Might Moved an address in answer to her
assures'i's Message of the night before, to
n he! MAJESTY of their Lordships' concur-
Theee in her desire to provide for Lord KEANE.
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tieeoba. -RA' the viscount referred to the eminent ser-
Noble Lord in every part of the
the ttld to the vote of thanks given him by
e4tuse the motion)
lhe Indus, last Session for his services beyond
foe
lie alluded to the delay in brin.gin.g
1 its
Lord
but declined to explan
ELLOBoxouGH expressed the hearty

'concurrence of the Tories in the motion, and
-highly eulogised the Indian army, which realised,
so the Duke of WELLINGTON said, his Grace's
idea of the Roman legions. The address was
agreed to nem. con., and their Lordships adjourned
to Thursday.
In the Commons, a number of petitions were
presented against the New Poor-law, and for the
abolition of patronage in the Church of Scot-
land, &c.
Mr. SANFORD gave notice of amendments to
the Poor-law Commissioners' Bill, to prevent
parish apprentices gaining a settlement, to give
overseers their expenses, and to limit the duration
of the Bill to five years.
Captain PECHELL gave notice of amendments
to exempt Gilbert unions from its operation.
Mr. CoLQuxouN, on Feb. 23, to ask for leave
to bring in a Bill to alter the law about May-
nooth. His profane hands should not meddle
with the subject.
Several questions were put, either so shortly
that we cannot abridge them, or they are not
worth abridgment, and for them we refer to our
report.
Lord STANLEY again adverted to the unfortu-
nate case of Mr. M‘LEork, and expressed an
opinion, that for Lord PALMERSTON to lay on the
table only the correspondence relative to it which
had already been made public, would be very
inconvenient. The Noble Lord also asked for
some more distinct information as to what the
Government meant to do, and what it had done
to interfere for M'LEoD. He asked particularly
whether the Government had taken steps in re-
ference to the proceedings then in progress, and
which would be effectual to save Mr. M'LEOD.

ViSCOllllt PALMERSTON explained that when he
said, the day before, he had no objection to pro-
duce the correspondence in question, he did not
intimate any intention, on his part, to lay it on
the table ; and lie thought the Noble Lord had
acted wisely in not moving fbr it. With regard
to the question put by the Noble Lord, instruc-
tions, in anticipation of a similar case to that of
Mr. M'LEoD, had been sent to Mr. Fox a year and
a half ago, and on them Mr. Fox had acted in
this case. Mr. Fox had,Once reported the whole
case to the Govertunent, but the communication
had been delayed, and it was only yesterday
that the Government had sent off final and con-
clusive instructions.

In answer to sundry questions„ it was stated,
both by Lord PALMERSTON and Lord J. RUSSELL,
that the Government had approved of the cap-
ture of the Caroline, and had signified its appro-
bation to the United States. It is clearly, there-
fore, a question for adjustment between the two
countries; and we trust that the authorities at
New York will not be so ill advised as to take ven-
geance on an individual who, trusting to their
good faith, has put himself into their hands.
In reply to questions, Lord MORPETH said that
it was not his intention to bring in any measure
relating to railways in Ireland, or to amend the
Poor-law in Ireland ; but that it was intended
to bring in a Bill to amend the Municipal Corpo-
rations Bill. _ _ _

Mr. SHAW took the opportunity of defending a
Mr. BLACKER from the charge of being an Orange
man, which both he and Mr. Sergeant JACK-
SON admitted, by their eagerness to repel the im-
putation, to be a disgrace.
Lord MORPETH obtained leave to bring in a
Bill to amend the laws for the drainage of land
in Ireland, and in doing it said very properly
that such a measure would confer more benefit
on Ireland than his own or Lord STANLEY'S Re-
gistration Bill. The Noble Lord has a just ap-
preciation of the use of legislation, and is more
honourably modest than the bulk of the law-
makers.

Mr. F. KELLY movedfor leave tobring in a Bill,
co-extensive with his Bill of last Session, to abo-
lish the punishment of death. It is quite unneces-
sary to re-state the arguments used pro. and con.
on this question; we shall only therefore observe
that Mr. KELLY is to introduce a measure, if no
other person does, to make secondary punish-
ment effective, if he can.
Mr. EWART, who is always active in forward-
ing measures of humanity and measures of free
trade, seconded the motion.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL again expressed his
opinion that it was not expedient to alter the law
to the extent proposed by the Hon. Member.
No opposition, however, was made to the motion,
and leave was given.
Mr. EWART withdrew ;his motion to equalize
the duties on East and West India produce, be-
cause since he gave notice her MAJESTY'S Go-
vernment had taken up the subject.
Captain PEcHELL moved for leave to bring in
a Bill to amend the Tithe Recovery Act. The
Gallant Officer explained that the amendment
was necessary, because Ecclesiastical Courts were
not her MAJESTY'S Courts.

Dr. NicHoLL very rudely said that the Bill was
necessary by the bungling legiSlation of the Gal-
lant Officer, for which remark he was properly
and spiritedly rebuked by Mr. F. MAULE and
Mr. HUME. The Learned Civilian had allowed
the error to pass, and he, therefore, as a law-
maker, was responsible for it. Captain PECHELL
blundered by mistake, Dr. NICHOLL blundered
by design. The former was faulty, the lat-
ter criminal. There are many other persons
as well as Captain PECHELL who are not
aware that the Ecclesiastical Courts are
not the Queen's Courts; but now that Dr.
NictioL has informed them that they are the
Bishop's, destitute of all authority but his,
many conscientious men will think it a duty to
set them at defiance. It is bad enough to be the
slaves of the aristocracy, but the people are not
so degraded as to be the slaves of priests whom
they dispise.
Mr. Fox MAULE moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to improve the practice and extend the juris-
diction of the County Courts. The object of it is to
assimilate the law in all parts of England and
Wales, and provide for the establishment of
these Courts by one general measure. This is a
step towards making the administration of the
law cheap and accessible. It extends the juris-
diction of the County Courts ; it gives the Judge
a permanent salary, and makes him dependent
on the Crown. The Judges are not to practise as
barristers. Some discussion arose incidentally
as to the dependence of the bar on the bench--
which Mr. O'CONNELL said was subserviency—
and as to the patronage of these Courts ; but, in
general, the measure found favour on both sides
of the House, and leave to bring in the Bill was
given.
Mr. Fox MAULE afterwards obtained leave to
bring in a Bill to enable the LORD CHANCELLOR
to transfer certain proceedings in the Court of
Chancery to these County Courts. Such an alte-
ration would give a speedy relief to debtors, and
ensure a great saving. The Bill will probably
be looked on with jealousy, as it enables the
LORD CHANCELLOR to increase the number of
Judges in the County Courts, when necessary.
Leave was given.
In a Committee of the whole House, on the
laws relative to the Copyrights of Design, Mr.
EMERSON TENNENT explained at great length the
injury which he thinks is now done to the owners
of designs, by their being pirated and copied. He
proposes to extend the time which a copyright
lasts from three to twelve months, and moved re-
solutions to that effect.

Mr. O'CoNNELL seconded the motion, and it
will excite some surprise to see he and Mr.
EMERSON TENNENT running in couples.
Mr. MARK PHILLIPS opposed it as having a
tendency to injure the cotton manufacture.
After a protructed discussion, in which Mr.
LABOUCHERE, Mr. COLQUHOUN, Mr. MORRISON,
Mr. WILLIAMS, Mr. Sergeant TALFOURD, Mr.
O'CONNELL, Mr. HUME, Mr. BROTHERTON, and
Mr. WARBURTON, took part, though neither
made a long speech, the resolutions were agreed
to, and a Bill ordered to be brought in.
The Address to her MAJESTY in answer to the
Message about Lord KEANE, was postponed. In
answer to Mr. HUME, Sir J. HOBIIOUSE stated
that it was intende 1 to give Lord KEANE 2,000/.
a-year for himself and the two following
lives in succession to the title. The question is
to be brought forward on Friday.
Mr DIVETT moved for leave to bring in a Bill
to enable Jews to hold office without taking the
disabling oaths.
Sir R. INGms of course objected to it, as when
did he not object to lessening the savage bigotry
of the law ?
Mr. WARBURTON supported Mr. DIVETT; and
Mr. GLADSTONE, who writes books about the
Church, took the same view as Sir R. INGLIS.
After a few honourable words from Mr.
HAWES and Mr. A. WHITE in favour of the
motion, leave was given. Some returns were
ordered on the motion of Capt. PECHELL and
Mr. O'CONNELL, and the House adjourned, at
Eleven o'Clock, till Thursday.

Mr. MARK PlumArs has given notice of a
motion for a Committee of the House of Com-
mons, to inquire into the exportation of ma-
chinery. The short facts of the case, we believe,
are these : Owing to the present state of the law,
a good deal of machinery in a complete state
cannot be exported. The law prohibits it. The
same machinery, however, is exported piece-
meal. It is smuggled out, or models of it are
taken away; and while the law therefore does not
prevent foreigners from acquiring our machinery
and learning its use—which no law can prevent,
and which it is rather diabolical to aim at—it
completely prevents our artizans and machine-