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London, England, 1847-02-17 00:00:00

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TTE small part only sold at is to 2s decline. Of Costa Rica 2,670
TUESDAY NIGHT'S GAZE . I 1 bags were offered, and sold rather under the former rates.
--...0.-. RICE.-This afternoon East India Rice was in excellent re-
BUCKINGHAM PALACE, FEB. 13, 1847. quest privately, and prices are still on the advance, white
This day had an audience of her Majesty, Senor Toro, to Bengal selling at 23s to 253, yellow 22s to 235, and Madras
deliver his credentials as Envoy Extraordinary and Minister 22s to 22s 6d.
Plenipotentiar from the Republic of Venezuela: SPICES.-Of Pimento the stock is still on the decrease;
y
le are several home and export purchases, and 41d to 5d
To which he was introduced by Viscount
per bis the value of low to fine quality. For Cinnamon of
G.C.8., her Majesty's Principal Secretary forofPaSiataleter't°n
, ther
Sironable quality the market has a dull appearance, and
Foreign Affairs, and conducted by the Hole. Colonel objectionable
Edward Cust, K.C.11., blaster of the Ceremornl prices are on the decline. In Cassia Buds sales to a fair ex-
ST. JAMES'S PALACE, FEB. 12. tent have been made at 63s to 66s per cwt. Nutmegs have
The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of been in excellent request by the home trade, and prices have
Knighthood upon Colonel Thomas Lo Breton, of the Royal risen 2d to 3d forgood and fine, and ld per lb for the lower sorts.
Jersey Militia. For Mace the demand has been active, and prices advanced
ST. JAMES'S PALACE, FEB. 12. 2d. For Cassia Lignea the market is quiet. For Black
The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of Pepper previous rates are insisted upon for all descriptions.
Knighthood upon Henry Edward Fox Young, Esq , Lieu- Purchases to a fair extent have been made in white, at 4d to
tenant-Governor of the eastern districts of the colony of the 6d, and 7d to 8d for superior quality. Cloves are littlewanted.
Cape of Good Hope. SPIRITS.-Altogether there are sellers of Jamaica Rum of
- FOREIGN-OFFICE, FEB. 12. all descriptions upon lower rates, still the trade have operated
The Queen has been pleased to approve of M. Dagobert cautiously, and there is a larger quantity on offer. Leeward
Fourcade, as Consul at Port Louis, in the Mauritius, for his Island is little wanted, and holders are more inclined to sell
Majesty the King of the French. proof at 4s. East India has been sparingly dealt in, and
The Queen has also been pleased to approve of Mr. John there are sellers of proof Calcutta at 3s 9d to 3s 10d. Deme-
T. Pickett, as Consul at Turks' Island for the United States rara, however, has been in good request, and brought stiff
of America. rates. In Brandy large purchases have been made by the
DUCHY OF LANCASTER, FEB. 13. tome trade; a fair quantity has been taken for Exportation,
At a Council this day, the Right 'Hon. Henry Pelham, and farther advanced prices have been obtained for new sorts,
-commonly called the Earl of Lincoln, Charles Philip Earl of whilst the older qualities fully sustained the former value.
ilardwicke, the Right Hon. Frederick Earl Spencer, Edward INDIGO.-To •day during the progress of the sale 130 chests
Berkeley Lord Portman, the Right Hon. Sir James Robert were withdrawn, and 841 chests have passed the sale. The
George Graham, Bart., and George Edward Anson, Esq., biddings were brisk, and the rates previously established
Keeper of her Majesty's Privy Purse, were, by her Majesty's were well supported for Bengal, as well as for Madras and
command, sworn of the Council of the Duchy of Lancaster. Kurpah.
DOWNING-STREET, FEB. 16. Ores.-For Cod Oil prices remain firm, and a good demand
The Queen has been pleased to appoint Henry Lushington, has prevailed by private treaty, chiefly for home consump-
Esq., to be Chief Secretary to the Government of the Island tion. Southern has been in excellent request, and a slight
of Malta. improvement in prices took place. Seal has met with less
Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Suffolk. attention, and the business transacted by private treaty has
Eastern Regiment of Suffolk Militia-William Henry been upon rather lower terms. Sperm has not been so much
Horsley Dakins (and not Henry Worsby Dakins, as inserted in request by private treaty, and prices are lowering. There
in the Gazette of the 9th instant), Gent., to be Lieutenant, have been further arrivals of Palm, and the trade operating
Jan. 29. with caution, a further decline in the value has taken place.
COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH. Of Stearine 356 casks were offered at auction, and
10th Vic.-13th Feb., 1847. taken in at 39s to 425. Olive Oil has been
This Court will, on Thursday, the 25th day of February in extensive request, and further advanced rates have
instant, at t erelve o'clock, A.m., hold a sitting, and will give been obtained. For Rape Seed Oil prices are fully as high,
judgment in cases which have been argued. and the demand has been active. For Linseed Oil prices
BY THE COURT. have declined 6d, there being a large quantity in the market.
WHITEHALL, FEB. 10. For Cocoa Nut Oil late rates are sustained, but the demand
The Lord Chancellor has appointed Charles Stockdale has been limited. Lard Oil dull of sale at 441. to 461.
Benning, of Luton, in the county of Bedford, Gent., to be a TaLeow.-Although the stock of Russian here is much
Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. less than it was last season at this time, and the consumption
WHITEIIALL, FEB. 12. , going on largely, still holders are ready sellers and sub-
The Lord Chancellor has appointed Robert Gard Edmonds, mitted to a reduction on former rates of 6d to 9d per cwt.;
of Plymouth, in the county of Devon, Gent., to be a Master nevertheless the demand on the spot has been limited.
Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. Home made is plentiful, and a decline in prices again oc-
BANKRUPTS. cuffed. In American and New South Wales few purchases
Robert Layt, spirit merchant, Hingham, Norfolk, to sar- have been made privately, although there are sellers rather
render Feb. 26, at eleven, and April 9, at twelve, at the under former rates.
Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basing-
hall-street; Trehern and Co., Barge-yard-chamers.
LATEST PRICES OF SHARES,
Jules Rochat, jeweller, St. Martin's-lane, Feb. 26, at
twelve, and March 29, at eleven, at the Court of Bank- N BANKS, ASSURANCE, AND OTHER COM
ruptcy. Graham, official assignee, Coleman-street ; Edward PANIES' STOCK.
and I'eake, New Palace-yard. eeie
Henry Hunter, confectioner, Old-street, St. Luke's, March From t'le Official List,
4, at one, and March 30, at twelve, at the Court of Bank-
ÜBLISHED EVERY TUESDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING.
ruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old
Jewry ; Fourdrinier, Scott's-yard, Bush-lane. City. LONDON, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 16
Jonathan Smith, innkeeper, Gloucester, Mardi 2 and 30, sorrav-wrocz. BANXS.
at one, at the Bristol District Court. Acraman, official
Dividend Amount
assignee, Bristol ;*Jones and Co., Crosby-square, City ; Small- Name of Company. per of Paid. Price
ridge, Gloucester. Annum. Share.
Jenkin H. Llewelyn, surgeon, Strand, Feb. 25, at eleven, -
and March 20, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, £ s. d. £ s. d.
oificial assignee, Aldermanhury ; Noyes, Lincoln's Inn-fields. 11.' as
tral ta
mash North .......•• 61. per cent. 40 0 0 40 0 0 -
American 51. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 -
Charles Proctor, wine merchant, Witham, Essex, Feb. 25, iionnuercial of Loudon 51. per cent. 100 0 0 20 0 0 -
at half-past eleven, and March 20, at one, at the Court of :lolonial. -
Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook-court, Londn and Westminstr 61. par cent. 100 0 0 20 0 0 -
Basingliall-street, ; Blood and Douglas, Witham; Valiance London Joint-Stock ... 61. per cent. 50 0 0 10 0 0 -
and Valiance, Essex-street, Strand. Metropolitan - 25 0 0 710 0
-titnciaN.l. centt.. 100 0 0 0 2
10 5 C 0 1 0 44%
0
Joseph Allison, bookseller, Penrith, Cumberland, Feb. 22, Prpol. o eo,fvlreland...
8811. per n
at two, and March 23, at one, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne National of Ireland ..I Si. perr cent.ce 50 0 0 20 0 0 1 -
District Court. %Vakley, official assignee, Newcastle-upon- Nat. Provncial of Eng. 151. per cent. 100 0 0 35 0 0 -
Tvne ; Atkinson and Harrison, Penrith ; Preston and Browne, Ditto, xew......... ! 5/. per cent. 20 0 0 10 00 '
_ Ne.wcas t le- a pon -Ty ne. Union of Australia.... 161. per cent. 25 0 0 25 0 0 i -
Teomas N. Brown, leather dealer, East Stonehouse, Devon- Union of L0nd0n..... , 51. par cent. , 50 0 0 j 10 0 0 I -
shire, March 3 and 24, at eleven, at the Exeter District -
INSURANCE COMPANIES.
Court. Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Beer and Rundle,
Devonport ; Penkivil, Finsbury-circus, London; Stogdon, Dividend Amount
Exeter. Name of Company. per of Paid. Pric.
DIVIDENDS DECLARED. Annum. Share.
B. B. King, stationer, Fish-street-hill-a div. of 1 Is!.3d. in I
the pound, ou Thursday, Feb. IS, and three following Thurs- £ s. d. HE s. d.
Iblg 500 0 0 ' 50 0 0 75
days, at the office of Mr. Belcher, King's Arms-yard, Moor- .
gate-st rect. 1
Alliancecnt . .13.; iI : .a.n.d. i:o.r.. . 6 Si:er• cent.i i
Ditto Ma.rine... -• • 61. per cent, 100 00i 5 0 0 5%
J. Pyle, banker, Macclesfield-a further div. of Is. Bd. in sales ... - - ......... 13s. 6d. pr sh. 50 001 5 0 0 L 5 i.i
the pound, on Wednesday, March 3, or any suGsequent British Commercial .. 7s. per share 50 0 0 50 0 7%
• Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Putt, Manchester. iiicriel,Med.& ben-Life 51. per cent. 100 0 0 210 0 -
L. Palfreyenan, scrivener, Sheffield-second div. of Is. in 31. 100 00110 0 0
the pound, and ss. 6d. in the pound on new proofs, at the 1ijiie°,wn...........: ''
' ' '''.' 1..: Gs. 50 0 0 10s. 50 0 0 50 0 -
4 office of Mr. Freeman, Sheffield. Eng. & Scot. Law •. - 51. per cent. 50 0 0 2 0 0 .s%xe
0 0 3
'l'. Wilson, grocer, Sheffield-first div of gs 6d. in the European Lim ...... 5% per cent. 20 0 0 All paid. 20
pound, on any Friday, at the office of Mr. Freeman, Sheffield. Freemasons' .••.. .. •• 51. per cent. 20 0 0 3 0 0
J. C. Simpson, pawnbroker, Sheffield-first div. of 2s. eiiobe ............... 61. per cent. Stock. - 132 ad
the pound, on any Friday, at the office of Mr. Freeman, inn, Guardian ............ 51. per cent. 100 0 0 36 10 0 4814
Sheffield. Imperial Fire ••• • - - 61. and bonus 500 0 0 50 0 0 230
M. Casanas, wine merchant, Sheffield-a div. of lYtd. in imperial Life ........ 12s. 100 0010 0 0 -
Marina • • • •
the pound, on Thursday, Feb.lB, and three following Thu ta'citmaY. 11. siti..sBes.bs. 1001 0 0
105 1) 1 31
0 -
days, at the office of Mr. Belcher, King's Arms_yard, Moor-rs- ..egwal and.Gen-e.ra. ..
''''''''
..andon Fire ........ - 50 0 0 20 0 6ii
gate-street.les. 25 0 0 12 10 0 15
R. F. Barber, licensed victualler, Bishopsgate-street With- andon Ship ........ Ios. 25 0 0 12 10 0 15
out-first div. of 2s. in the pound, on Monday, Feb. 22, and 51. per cent. 100 0 0 15 0 0 -
h4,l!aariettli.nlen;lid. Sc.. G-e.n...L.1.1:e 441. per et. 50 0 0 2 0 0 48s.
two following Mondays, at. the office of Mr. Cannan, .i onal Lean Fund.. 51. per cant. 20 0 0 210 0 -
Birchin-lane, City. National Life......... 81. per cent. 100 0 0 50 0 Bj4
J. Harris, butcher, Leadenhall•market-first div. of 2s. in calladiura Life 5l. per cent. 50 0 0 2 0 0 2xd
the pound, on Monday, Feb. 22, and two following Mondays, L'hconix ...... ...... - - 195
at the office of Mr. Cannan, Birchin-lane. Protector Life....
J. Kirkup, coal merchant, Rotherhithe-first div. of Bd. in rtorojkleit Life • ..... •
the pound, on Monday, Feb. 22, and two following Mondays, Royal Exchange •..
51. per4s *cent. :3tocOlt.o 010 0 4
- -
at the office of Mr. Cannan, Birchin-lano, City. San Fire - - 210
F. Jones, chemist. Ventnor, Isle of Wight-first div. of Ditto Life IL Be. - - 49
33.61 in the pound, on Monday, Feb. 22, and two follow- Universal Life .. lON/. pr ant 100 0 615 -
ing Mondays, at the office of Mr. Cannan, Birchin-lane, City CANALS.
H. M. Godwin and C. Lee, shipowners, Bishopsgate-street -
Within-second div. of 9.1. in the pound, on Monday, Feb. 22, 1 e I ,
i Dividend
and two following Mondays, at the office of Mr. Cannan, Names of ,it Dividend Price
Names of
Birchin-lane, City. Companies. I,d ; per ''''"' Companies. per Price.
! 4 .
-.-- - --- . -
,
C I is. in trie pound,' on any Saturday, at the office of Mr 1 _ x ! Z
Wakley, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. Ashtn& ohm! 57151.55. pet - Monmouthsh 10C Si. • -
A. Johnson,-printer, South Shields-a first div. of ss. 9d. Ashby-d-la-4113 41. 1,- Mntgomrysh 100 51. -
in the pound, on any Saturday, at the office of Mr. Wakley, Barnsley.. • • ;160 121. 1 - Macclesfield. 100 - -
Newcastle-upon-Tyne. Basingstoke-1100 - 1 - Neath .... • . 100 171. -
J. Payne, engineer, Bristol-a div. of 10.6 d. in the pound, clerrokmukfoSerdA.e.r.g: 1501 51. I - Nottingham. 150 121.
'1 141. - Peak Forest . 78 31. 75
-
on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Miller, Bristol. Dudley 100! 41. - Regent's .... 33 IL 53. 20
H. hole, tailor, Bath-first div. of 2s. sd. in te pound, on Derby . - Rochdale.... 85 41. -
any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Acraman, Bristol. Ellsmre&Ch3,l33 I 41. b 5 Shropshire • . 125 81. -
Diana Fleming, grocer, Bristol-first div. of ld. in the E'elva'h • • •1100, 321. - Somrset Coal 150 71.105. -
pound, on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Acraman, North & Clyd,loo, 41. - Do.Lk Fd St 12 6L p. C. -
Bristol. cirantiaunctn 100 71. - Stffrd &Wore 140 281. -
DIVIDENDS. - Grand Union 100 11. 10s. - Shrewsbury.. 125 151. -
Glamorgnsh. 172; 13%1. - Stourbrldge- 145 201. 315
At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basingliall-street. teistr as iirety 00 - - Strtffdon Av 79 1/. 10s. - '
W. Longhurst, carpenter, Sussex-terrace, Old Brompton, Grantham ',lso' 121. - Severn and/
March 9, at twelve-J. Metford, jun., ironmonger, South- fluddarsfleld 157 - - Wye Rail. 26 1/. Bs. -
ampton, March 10, at one. Remit & Avty 39 73. 6d. 5'4 iTrnt & Mr-1 50 301. -
In the Country. Lanca;;ter ,47 1/. 10s. ! - 1 sey, sh.
Leeds&Livrp 1001 . 341 ' 52214!Thams&Med 19 - -
R. Hallam, grocer, Newcastle-under-Lyme, March 9, at Leicester l4oi 10/. ' 105 rorcstr &1
eleven, at the Birmingham District Court-W. Wonuacott, telestr &Nth 83, 41. 152 Birrning. j7B 21. 43
grocer, Bath, March 12, at twelve, a
tt the Bristol District bougheoreek 142, 701. - Wilts& Brks 67 11. -
~, • • -•

the defendant and. Mr. Garbett. It differed somewhat from
Mr. Garbett's statement, inasmuch as it stated that the de-
fendant dissented to being placed on the committee on the
subject being named to him.
Evidence was next taken as to the order being given by
the secretary to Mr. Barker, and the advertisements being
inserted in pursuance thereof.
This 'being the case, and Mr. Sergeant Byles having
replied,
His LORDKIIP summed up at some length, to the effect
that if they were satisfied with Mr. Garbett's evidence, and
declared the defendant to have been present at the meeting
of the sth November, their verdict raust be for the plaintiff.
The jury immediately returned a verdict for the full
amount, 30!. 3s. 6d.

THE IRISH PARTY AND THE

PRESS.

The Irish party have determined to exclude the represen-
tatives of the Press from their meetings, and have directed
their secretary to furnish to one particular reporter an out-
line of their proceedings, who, on application, will give to the
other reporters an account of what transpires. Such is the
substance of a statement made yesterday by Mr. Godley, the
secretary, to a gentleman who attended from this office.
The public, knowing the manner in which the reports of the
proceedings of the Irish party are concocted, will rate those
reports at their proper value, while we know from Scripture
who are those who " like the darkness rather than the

PETITIONS ON PRIVATE BILLS.
ROUSE OF COMMONS.
(Room 22, before Mr. Examiner Slirrir.)
There were no unopposed cases in Mr. Smith's list to-day.
OPPOSED CASE.
BLANDFORD AND BURTON.

The Learned Examiner was occupied the whole of the day
with this opposed case. A few allegations were sustained,
and the case was further adjourned till to-morrow.
(Room 23.)
In the following unopposed cases the customary formal
proofs were completed :
Birmingham Wolverhampton and Stour Valley Railway
(No. 2, Branches).
Dublin and Drogheda Railway (Branch from Navan to
Kells).
Dublin and Belfast Junction and Navan Branch Railway
Act, 1845.
Sunderland Improvement, Markets and Bridge.
Taw Vale Railway and Dock (Deviations and Bideford
and South Molton Branches).
Weymouth and Melcombe Regis Harbour and Bridge
Trusts.
Wolverhampton General Cemetery.
Cornwall Railway Act, Amendment and Deviation.
Macduff Harbour Improvement.
Northampton and Banbury Railway (from the London and
North-We.-tern Railway, near the Blisworth Station to Ban-
bury, &c.)
Bingley Gas Company.
Chester and Holyhead Railway (Extensions at Chester
and Holyhead, &c. )
Edinburgh Waterworks (Additional Reservoirs and Works
for further and improved Supply of Water and Public
Trust).
East of Fife Railway (Deviation of Main Line and Im-
provement of the Junction with the Edinburgh and Northern
Railway, near Markinch, in the parish of Markinch and
county of Fife).
Paisley and Renfrew Railway (for sale to the Glasgow,
Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway Company; to im-
prove the line, and also to construct new quays on the Clyde
at Renfrew Ferry, &c.)
Edinburgh Markets and Customs.
St. Helen's Canal and Railway Amendment Bill (War-
rington and Blackbrook Branches, Lease of Rainford Branch
of London and North-Western Railway).
Great Northern Railway; Extension to Leeds and Wake-
field; Deviation of Methley Branch of Wakefield, Ponte-
fract and Goole Railway.
Great Northern Railway ; Purchase of Ambergate, Not-
tingham and Boston and Eastern Junction Railway, East
Lincolnshire Railway, Boston, Stamford and Birmingham
Railway (Stamford and Wisbeach Line).
Great Northern Railway ( Branches to Sleaford).
Great Northern Railway (Branch to Horncastle and to
Brayford Mere, Lincoln).,
Aylsham and NOrth Walsham Railway.
Ipswich and Bury St. Edmunds Railway, No. 5 (Extension
to East Dereham, and to Aylsham in Norfolk).
Oldham Alliance Railway (Lines from Oldham to Ashton,
Rochdale, Manchester and Royton line, from Ashton to
Guide Bridge, and Branch to Oak Colliery, near Hollinwood,
with power to unite with Manchester and Leeds Railway
Company).
The: e were no opposed case in Mr. May's list.

Dividend Amount
Nome of Company. per of Paid. Price
Annum. Share.
£ s. d. £ a. d.
tustralasia •• •• 61. per cent. 40 0 0 40 0 0
BritahNorth American 51. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0
Ilonnuercial of Loudon 51. per cent. 100 0 0 20 0 0
. .
Londn and Westminstr 61. par cent. 100 0 0 20 0 0
London Joint-Stock ... 61. per cent. 50 0 0 10 0 0
i 1
etropoli tan
Provincialof Ireland.. 81. per cent. 100 0 0 25 0 0 4.1%
Ditto, New......... 81. per cent. 10 0 0 10 0 0
National of Ireland .. Si. per cent. 50 0 0 20 0 0 1
Nat. Provncial of En;. 1 51. per cent. 100 0 0 35 0 0
Ditto, 5/. per cent. 20 0 0 10 0 0
Union of Australia.. 61. per cent. 25 0 0 25 0 0 i
Union of London. 51. par cent. 50 0 0 10 0 0

STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE
The following Bills received the sanction of the Corn.
mittee, and are reported as allowed to proceed:—
Caledonian and Motherwell Branch.
Caledonian and Clydesdale Junction.
Newmarket and Chesterfield Railway.

DIVIDENDS.
At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-stroet.
W. Longhurst, carpenter, Sussex-terrace, Old Brompton,
March 9, at twelve—J. Metford, jun., ironmonger, South-
ampton, March 10, at one.
In the Country.
R. Hallam, grocer, Newcastle-under-Lyme, March 9, at
eleven, at the Birmingham District Court—W. Wonnacott,
grocer, Bath, March 12, at twelve, at the Bristol District
Court—J. D. Browning, cabinet maker, Bristol, March 12,
at eleven, at the Bristol District Court—R. Goodenough,
woollendraper, Newton Abbott, Devonshire, March 11, at
one, at the Exeter District Court—V. and J. Hare, painters,
Taunton, March 11, at one, at the Exeter District Court—
s. G. Burton, gas manufacturer, Sidmouth, March 11, at one,
at the Exeter District Court—J. Curtis, linendraper, Liskeard,
Cornwall, March 11, at one, at the Exeter District Court—
T. Yates, cotton manufacturer, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire,
March 12, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court—A.
Lord, dyer, Manchester, March 10, at eleven, at the Man-
chester District Cuurt—J. Leadbeateronerchant, Manchester,
March 10, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court.
CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to

the contrary, on the day herein mentioned.
J. Varney, grocer, Clement's Inn-passage, Clare-market,
March 10—W. Everton, turner, Bunhill- row, St. Luke's,
March 9—E. Beedel and C. Ref Told, builders, Reading,
March 9-11. Dutchman, shipowner, Toxteth Park, Lan-
cashire, March 9—J. B. Rodwav, commission agent, Bir-
mingham, March 16—W. Allbut, draper, Worcestershire,
March 13—W. F. Brand, draper, Wigan, Lancashire,
March Il—A. Henderson, tailor, Old Burlington-street,
March 9—A. Goadeve, warehouseman, Aldermanbury,
March 9—R. Sugden, manufacturer, Keighley, Yorkshire,
March 9—W. Perry, ironfounder, Wolverhampton, March 9
—P. Owen, miller, Liverpool, March 9—J. Dodgson and G.
Bradbury, ironmongers, Bishopsgate-street Without, March 9.
PARTNERSIIIPS DISSOLVED.
G. Crux and E. Chillcott, silk mercers, Cheltenham—T.
Winkworth and C. Horne, silk warehousemen, Gutter-lane,
City—J. Thompson and F. Whitley, licensed victuallers,
Arundel-place, Coventry-street, Westminster—C. Wood-
ward, J. Castle, jun., and C. Lamb, newspaper agents, Bull's
Head-court, Newgate-street (so far as regards C. Wood-
ward)—T. and J. Turney, woolstaplers, Halifax, Yorkshire—
J. Warrington and S. Berristord, builders, Stoke-upon-Trent
—J. Stott, T. Smith, G. Ormerod, and T. K. Stott, woollen
manufacturers, Sykeside, Lancashire—C. S. and E. Savage,
stationers, Highgate-A. Cocke and T. Innis, surgeons,
Howland-street, Fitzroy-square—M. A. and C. C. Painter,
boot renders, Birmingham—E. Seed and C. Tennant, small-
ware dealers, Liverpool—G. Buxton and G. Vernon, joiners,
Marcheste:—W. Spreat and H. J. Wallis, stationers, Exeter
—H. Hunt and G. Fudge, masons, Bristol—J. M'Gregor and
G. G. de H. Larpent, Glasgow—J. Slater and J. Lees, ma-
chine makers, Oldham—W. H. Mackey and W. B. Girdle-
stone, attorneys, Southampton—W. S. Birch and E.
Buchanan, coal merchants, Manchester. .

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 17, 1847.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 16.

ll
was
against him (Lord Lucan) which were unfounded. He
( Earl Grey) must say, that he had real all the papers relat-
ing to the subject, and he had heard the speech of the
Noble Earl, and he was bound to say, that his honest and
sincere opinion was that Mr. Otway's censure on the board of
guardians of the Castlebar Union was in no way more
severe than the circumstances justified. He had no doubt
that the Noble Earl, in the steps he had taken with respect to
this subject, was actuated by a desire to do his duty towards
Ireland; but the Noble Earl's own statement showed that the
gravest censure rested upon the guardians of the Castlebar
Union ; and here, he begged to observe, that Mr. Otway's
censure was not of the Noble Earl, but of the board
of guardians of the Castlebar Union. There were
two or three facts which showed that the censure
of Mr. Otway, and the subsequent suspension of
the guardians of the Castlebar Union, were called for.
In a period of the Most harrowing distress they would not ad-
mitr
the
number paupers,
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raise the necessary funds; but before admitting that plea, it
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that some of the arrears were due by solvent persons, and that
they might, if due diligence had been used, been collected.
The board of guardians ought to have taken care that the rate
was properly and duly collected. But why, he would ask, was
no rate struck? Remonstrances had been made over and over
again to have a new one struck, but nothing whatever was
' done. The ground alleged was this : a great part of the old
one still remained uncollected. But every one was aware, that
had any experience of the working of these matters, that the
heavier the rate the more difficult it was of collection. In the
last years of great distress in this country—in 1841 and 1842
there was great difficulty in collecting the rates, but that was
never put forward as a reason for refusing to strike a rate
altogether. Only two rates had been struck since the Castle-
bar Union was opened—one in August, 1842, and the other in
July, 1845. The amount of the first was 1,0611., and of the
last, 3,3621. ; and it was to be observed, that it was
with the greatest possible difficulty the last had been struck.
He said their Lordships would perceive, from the documents
which he had just read, that this ui:ion, which was large, and
included a great amount of property, belonging to the wealthy;
that during the years 1845 and 1846, the years in which very
great distress existed in Ireland, only one rate had been struck,
and that rate only slightly exceeded 3,0001. He hoped their
Lordships would compare this with the efforts which had been
made during the years 1840 and 1841 by the small town of
Stockport, and by that town which he had the honour of repre-'
renting in the other House of Parliament—he meant Sunder-
land. Why, what was the rate at which the inhabitants of
these towns were paying the poor-rates? They were paying
twenty shillings in the pound • but how much were they pay-
ing in the pound in the Castlebar Union ? Why, he believed it
wall not much more than three shillings, and that small rate
had only been once made during the course of 18 months in
that union, and even that rate, by the admission of the
Noble Earl (Lucan) had not been effectively collected. Their
Lordships would understand and consider whether the lan-
guage used by Mr. Otway concerning this union was a whit
too severe. But the Noble Earl had thought proper to blame
the Government, because the Government had not come for-
ward in the case of this union and repelled the facts which he
had just read to them. He would leave their Lordships to
judge of this after hearing the documents themselves. He was
of opinion, that if the Government had done that, they would
have conferred direct encouragement on those boards of guar-
dians who were so disinclined to do their duty, and a discou-
ragement to all those boards who, by some means or other,
managed to raise enough to support their expenses, and to
keep their houses full ; if Government had done so, it would
have been conferring a direct premium on all such conduct as
had been just represented to their Lordships. Mr. Otway, he
believed, did no more than his duty in writing to the Poor-
law Commissioners as he did, and if he had not done so in such
a case as that of the Castlebar Union, he would not have
done his duty. He (Earl Grey) said he could rot
refrain from shortly commenting on an expression which had
fallen from the Noble Earl near him (Earl Fitawilliana). He
had not heard the Noble Earl commence his speech, but he had
heard him comment on the number of legal processes which
had been issued in the west of Ireland, and he had said that
there was a close connexion between these processes and immi-
gration into England. He (Earl Grey) believed there was a
gv er
ar
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at
whom processes had been issued had collected together the
few effects which they had remaining, had sold them at what
they would realise' and before these processes were perfect, had
left the town of Alayo for the shores of Liverpool. The Noble
Earl (Earl Fit zwillia ) had said that these statements had
been made with the intention to indispose the public mind of
the people of England against the Irish people, and to do justice
to Ireland. Now, on his (Earl Grey's) part, and on the part of
his Noble Friend, a very near relation of his, he must
say, that did he not believe that statement to have been made
by the Noble Eirl inadvertently, he would have commented on
the expression with no small degree of indignation. But it
should be recollected that these gentlemen were responsible
to Government, and those who were also responsible for the ad-
ministration of the government of this country. The Noble
Earl had stated that the Government and those connected
with it during the course of those discussions had made use of
language which called in question the conduct of the landlords
of Ireland. He much regretted this statement ; but if his
Noble Friends had read the papers which had been presented
to Parliament—if they had read the blue book which he held
in his hands—if they had read the report made to the Board
of Works—if tlsey would take the trouble of reading those few
volumes, they would know that neglect of Irish interests was
not one of the faults of the Government. (Hear,
hear.) He was quite sure, that under the circumstances in
which they were placed, the Irish landlords would exonerate
the Government from the censures cast upon them. But he
would counsel the Irish landlords'to hear the truth. However
disagreeable the truth might be, yet they had better hear the
truth now than some months or years hence, when it would be
perfectly useless. It was plainly evident that Ireland could not
remain in the same situation as she was now—dependent on the
assistance of England. The Irish people must help themselves,
they must put forth their powers, they must exert their energies,
they must rise their powers to get out of this state of doubt,
difficulty, and uncertainty. They must not depend on this
country, for however strong any Government might be—and
he did not care at all of what men it might be composed—he
was quite sure that public opinion on this subject would be too
malts-any attack on the landlords of Ireland, but whether there
had been a want of experience, or from what cause it might be
he could not say, but from some reason or other there had been
a failure on the part of the landlords of Ireland. That was the
truth, of the accuracy of which he was painfully convinced,
and, being convinced, he thought it was his duty to enunciate it.
But at the same time he appealed to their Lordships—he ap-
pealed to those who had watched the progress of the debates
in either House of Parliament—whether in either House any
member of her Majesty's Government had used one word of
censure towards Ireland without reluctance, and without ex-
pressing their deep regret at being compelled to use it--
whether they had not gone as far as their truth and conscience
would allow them, in upholding the right of Ireland to be relieved
in such an emergency as the present ; and whether they had
not gone as far as their duty to the empire at large would
permit them, in asking Parliament to be liberal and most
generous at such a period,—(Hear.)
Lord MONTEAGLE said, his Noble Friend (Earl Grey)
had not said anything in the course of his address at all calcu-
lated to relieve the Noble and Gallant Officer opposite (Lord
Lucan) from one of the most cruel and unjust charges
—whether contained in a blue book, or in proceedings
elsewhere—that it had ever been his lot to find directed
against any individual ; and the Noble and Gallant Officer
would be less than a man if he had submitted to be held up to
public obloquy and not come forward to vindicate himself in
the only just and legitimate way that was open to him. He
agreed with his Noble Friend (Earl Grey) that great incon-
venience resulted from the Members of one House referring to
the debates in the other; and when he had been exposed to
animadversions in the other House of Parliament he had
strictly adhered to this rule until the other night, when he
made some reference to what had been said respecting him ;
but if this usage was to b 3 adhered to, it was requisite, when
charges were to be made against a Noble Lord a Member of
that House, that notice should be given to him, in order that
ho might be prepared to offer a defence; but if he were
put upon his trial without having this opportunity offered to him,
this usage could not be maintained, and the person so attacked
had a perfect right to reply to imputations cast upon him,
though they were made in the other House of Parliament.
The Noble Lord had been held up to obloquy because he and
the other guardians were unable to collect the rates ; but when
he found this was the case, he came forward and, out of his
private resources, supported, and still supported, the persons
who in that locality stood in need of relief. Unfortunately, in
this country such instances were rare, but the occasions which
made them necessary, it must be admitted, were also rare.
The answer of the Noble Earl to the charge of non-payment
of the rate was, to his (Lord Monteagle's) mind, most satis-
factory, as there was not a single rate due on his property,
coins of the rates charged against his property not
having been due by him. But the Noble Earl
had also stated that he had directed the issue of 100 dis-
tress warrants against defaulters in the payment of the rates,
and he (Lord Monteagle) would ask, was it not the most unpa-
ralleled folly, and would it not be the greatest audacity for any
one to make such a statement if he himself were a defaulter ?
(Hear, hear.) It had been said that the shield of the Govern-
ment was extended over the Irish proprietors
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He did not want such a shield to be extended over them, and
table
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the statements
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landlords. in
unfounded than many of them. What, for instance, could be
more calumnious than to state that certain magistrates had
defencei
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which, he contended, never should
had they been omitted. He thought that the Noble Earl had
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After a few words from the Marquis of WESTMEATH in
pondeFnloeßbEetAweTenSt'hce.
Lord PORTMAN moved for copies, or extracts of corres•
Newfoundland on the subject of the fire at St. John's, and the
measures adopted for the relief of the sufferers'; and also copies
or extracts of correspondence between the Secretary. of State
for the Home Department and the committee for raising sub-
scriptions for the relief of the distress occasioned by the same
fire. His object in making the motion was to allay an impres•
mien that existed in some parts of England, that only one-half
of the money collected under the Queen's letter had been ap-
propriated to the purpose for which it had been subscribed,
and that the other half had been devoted to the building of
churches by the Bishop of Newfoundland.
JOHN'S,
charges
fNedg been
The Marquis of WESTMEATH asked if it was the Pro-
testant Bishop. :varntahh:aaavdteemaaabgdeleeeiornwt
samititnahhdicremleesi.rngeycmt
theseat to
Lord PORTMAN presumed that it was the Protestant
Bishop.
Earl GREY had no objection to produce the papers moved
for by the Noble Lord, and when they should be laid on the
table he would see that the money had been properly expended.
PORTUGUESE OFFICERS.
Lord BEAUMONT gave notice that, on Thursday next,
he would put a question, to the Noble Lord the President of
the Council respecting the officers of the insurgent army in
Portugal, who had lately; surrendered themselves at Torres
Vedras to the forces of the Queen.

Their Lordships assembled shortly after Five o'clock.
CROWN LANDS IN ROSCOMMON.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH brought forward his
motion with respect to returns relating to Crown lands at
Killglass, Roscommon, which he postponed last night until
this evening, in order that the Government might have an
opportunity of ascertaining whether the returns could be fur-
nished or not.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had made the in-
quiries which he prom.sed to make last night, and found that
there would be no objection to furnish the returns, with the
exception of those which had reference to pending suits.
INFLUX OF IRISH POOR INTO LIVERPOOL.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM wished to bring before the notice of
their Lordships some information which he had received that
day, respecting the great influx of Irish paupers into Liverpool.
He had received that day a Manchester paper, in which there was
a long and very able account of the way in which they came to
Liverpool, and what was done for them when they arrived there.
It appeared that into the town of Liverpool there were be-
tween 23,000 and 24,000 immigrants. This great in-
flux induced people who were interested' in the ques-
tion to institute an inquiry, and one of the first
effects that followed was a considerable diminution
in the number of the persons who were relieved. In addition
to that, the Assistant Poor-law Commissioner had
been directing his attention to the influx of Irish
paupers into Liverpool. He found that the arrivals were,
of men 4,419, of women 1.755, and of children 1,150
within a given period. The relief afforded was to
men 2,000, women 2,811, children 1,150, and there was an
increase of 8,814 relieved, though the number of immigrants
was decreased. It was quite clear, from that circumstance, that
the number of persons relieved was not occasioned solely by the
number of immigrants. There was a large number relieved on a
Monday in February. It was 22,348—and how many were
relieved on the Tuesday following ?—why 4,906. That was
entirely in consequence of the active measures that had
been taken to ascertain who were entitled to be
relieved. Other circumstances were connected with this
question. They had heard of the great immigration into
Liverpool. They had heard also of 4,000 ejectments in Mayo.
The inference that would be drawn from this was, that the
influx of immigrants and the ejectments in Mayo had some-
thing to do with one another. That had been an erroneous con-
clusion, drawn by persons who ought not to have arrived at those
positive conclusions without having instituted a more rigid in-
quiry. He thought the decrease that had followed in the number of
persons relieved upon the inquiry that had been made showed
clearly that it was not owing to the cause here assigned.
The Earl of LUCAN rose to offer a few observations, in
consequence of certain charges that had been made. He could
tell the Noble Lord opposite, that in Tyrawley, one of the
wealthiest baronies in Ireland, the tenants actually kept posses.
sion, and would not permit the landlords to enter their dwellings.
He intended last night to have replied to the attacks that had
been made upon him, but was prevented from doing so. He
knew it to be the practice of that House—and it used to be the
practice formerly in the House of Commons—that the
person who W S to be the subject of an attack
should have previous intimation of it, or should have
an opportunity of defending himself, but no such courtesy had
been extended to him, but, on the contrary, the greatest dis-
courtesy—a discourtesy which, perhaps, was more con-
genial to ,the taste and habits of a certain Noble Lord,
who had thought it right to make the attack upon
him. It had been stated that an indictment would
be preferred against him in consequence of the course he
had thought proper to adopt, but that would not deter him now
from defending his conduct. He had been charged with three
distinct charges—first, that he was a defaulter in not paying
his poor-rates • secondly, that he shut up the workhouse ; and
thirdly, that he refused to strike a rate. With respect to the
first charge all he had to say was, that he not been absent a
single day from the sittings of the board, for a very long
period ; and he never recollected being charged with a single
instance of non-payment of rates. There were one hundred
distress warrants for rates in the town of Castlebar, issued at
his instance, and the instructions to the rate-
collector had beers initiated by him. When he understood
that certain papers were to be laid on the table of the House
he hastened down to the Home-office, and protested against
Sir George Grey laving his letter before the House, but the
Right Hon. Baronet. would not accede to his request. He
would now read the letter for their Lordships. ( The Noble
Earl then read the letter he had written to the Board of Works.)
His Lordship, in readings this letter, laid especial stress on
those names which, with his own, had been coupled with the
charge, and of which he had said in that letter, " I do not
believe one farthing to be due from them." He begged their
Lordships' attention to this, and wished to know how any
gentleman could have given a more positive denial to the
imputed facts than that which he had just read;
but yet the public prints, in alluding to it, had repre-
sented it as rather an escape than a positive and honest
contradiction of the charge.: ( His Lordship then con-
cluded the remaining part of the letter.) He then added that
he was not satisfied with having written that letter,
but he had desired the rate-collectors to furnish him
with the names of all the tenements of which
he was the lessor, and the statement whether he
was liable or not for rates on any of them. He
found that the total amount of rate on property in his hand
was but 601., and there was about 451. on property leased by
other tenants, but that was not in his own hand, and
he was not liable for it. There was some 101. or
141. more which he confessed he could not ac-
count for. There was property of his which at present
was in beneficial occupation by another, the rate on which
amounted to some 10/. or 141., and he was quite certain that
not a half, not a third, of that amount remained unpaid. He
was sure their Lordships would recollect his situation as a
landlord, that he was himself a large occupier of land and of
farms to a great extent, but on all the property
which remained in his own occupation there
had not been any rates due for months and
months past. He begged distinctly to be understood that
he took this opportunity of positively stating that there was not
a farthing due on the property in his own occupation, as he
himself well knew, having personally inspected the
rate-books of the board of guardians. The next
charge which had been made against him was
the shutting of the Castlebar union workhouse. He said the
circumstances were these : he went over to Ireland about the
close of last session and attended a board of guardians.
He was present at a meeting of his tenants, where
114111,eakd .I,P,scfign"toe "ot brge klabllc!
On the Bth September he had returned to Ireland, and at-
tended a board of guardians, when he was told that all the
contracts for the house were expired, that no tenders had been
mrde, and that there was no chance of any tenders being made
as there was not a farthing with which to pay. A
conversation ensued, representing the difficulties of the position
in which they were placed, when something was said about
shutting up the house, and he said in reply that he would ease
them of their difficulties, and keep the house for them.
That occurred on the 20th of September. As to what
had been said about applicants for relief having been turned
away, or having received inadequate relief, he was certain
that no such occurrence had taken place, neither had any one
been turned away, nor had any one been sent away with in-
adequate relief, and that was said by those who had been
preNwaso ws eentahtpeaa thr
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deaoattchlithlanesauebge boardeansycdiw6ooer of
guardians
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the outside number that had etnruveleadtrlrh.enlabauenomedn received was 170.
And this was not the case at
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shod thenei
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September
at all the other houses the same rule had prevailed.
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the guardians at Castlebar had made contracts which were to
go until the 24th October. This went on till that day, when it
was found that the amount that remained unpaid was ul3 •
wards of 1,2001 The rates, it was true, ought to have been
collected, and if they were not so, it was the fault of the col-
lector and nobody else; and had it not been that he (Lord Lu-
can) had kept them, the poor could not have been sustained.
There was a debt due to the treasurer, and it was evident that
if 5001. or even 3001. was collected, it was necessary to pay
that amount to the treasurer. They had no opportunity
m
whatever of stopping:the money in trausitu. Thus matters went
on till the 24th of October, and the only chance they had was
to get in the money from the rates to prevent the people
from throwing their
On that day there
n was a resolution come to, that unless the Government would
step in and grant relief,
children nt hon nctohme parisissihoers would put them
in the way of obtaining the means, it would be utterly impos-
sible to grant admission to any more poor; and had it not
been for him the house during the last four weeks would not
have been kept at all. This resolution was moved by Mr.
Finch, and seconded by Dr. Dillon, and it stated that had it
not been for the contributions from the Earl of Lucan that the
house must have been closed, and that, in the present
circumstances, it was absolutely necessary to refuse admission
to any more paupers, although more than forty applications had
been made that day. It stated also that the debts were over
4,0001., and that unless the treasurer advanced money, which
he had refused to do, there could be no maintenance for the
poor, however desperate the cases, and that unless the Govern-
ment assisted them in some way or other, either
by a grant or in some other way, the house must
be closed altogether. It was difficult to make the people
of England understand the state of Ireland. It should
be recollected that it was like a house on fire.
Mr. Otway, the Assistant Poor-law Commissioner, suggested to
him that a rate should be struck for the relief of the poor, and
that the doors of the workhouse should be opened for their ad-
mission. But if a rate had been struck, it could not have been
collected, as in England, the day after; a month at least must
have intervened before they could have been in a condition to
collect it, and even the collecting of it was fraught with diffi-
culty, owing to the sub-divisions of the land, and the difficulty
of discovering the real persons on whom it should be levied.
Nothing could have been more ridiculous than striking a rate
because the people were in want of immediate relief. He (Lord
Lucan) told Mr. Otway that he was in favour of opening the
house, but as there were no funds to provide relief for
them in the house,
and as it was a question of
starvation within, as well as without the house,
he thought it advisable not to open the doors of the workhouse
ander such circumstances. It would have been useless striking
a new rate whilst the old rate remained outstanding. It was
more advisable, before striking a new rate, to collect what re-
mained unpaid of the old one. The Noble Lord (Lord Dun-
can) seemed in favour of a paid board; he could not divine his
reason, except that he was desirous to be its paid chairman, or
to hold some other paid office in connexion with it. One was
seemly prepared to be lectured by a Scotchman ( Lord Duncan)
on the subject of dispensing relief to the distressed poor of
Ireland. He certainly could not possess much knowledge of
workhouses from experience in his own country, as he (Lord
Lucan) did not believe that there was such a thing es a work-
house in Scotland. He recommended to that Noble
Lord's attention, some voluminous blue books, which
were more voluminous than those published with
respect to Ireland, and which treated of the condition and
relief of the poor of Scotland. He would there find much to
reproach his country with—details of the niggard relief dis-
pensed to the poor; in some cases such wretched sums as 3s. or
4s. a year were given to one family in the course of that time.
When Scotchmen spoke sincerely on the conduct of Irish
landlords, he though he was justified in retorting in this way.
He did not think that the remarks—the splenetic and
misdirected remarks—of the Members for Bath (Mr.
Roebuck and Lord Duncan) would meet with much
favour from their constituents at the next election
There was, no doubt, much to condemn ; but at the same
time much allowance was to be made. He could state that
the proprietors of Ireland were making every sacrifice they
could, and they were using every endeavour in their power to
co-operate with her Majesty's Government to alleviate the
existing distress. He could not conclude without saying that
he much lamented the tone and language that had been used
towards Ireland and the people of that country, because he
must candidly say it was calculated to create a hostile feeling
towards Ireland. When all the subjects of the present discus-
siono hader the taken
character
had passed away, there would be feelings of envy, enmity,
cmall
ad
te e tdo
to whatlw and detestation engendered in the minds of the people of
Ireland.
thef
Parliament, other House, asia viitnwgahs
ecaarld-
Earl GREY could not but regret that allusion had been
placei o
in
the observations of the Noble Earl opposite, he felt it to be
his duty to rise for the purpose of stating, which de did sin-
cerely, that the censures which he had so unsparingly lavished
were altogether unjust. The Noble Earl had spoken of
Mr. Otway, Assistant Poor-law Commissioner, in very un-
measured terms. He accused him of having brought charges

MINIS f 11.11 S MONEY.
Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition from St.
George's, Limerick, against Ministers' money. Also a
petition from the town council of Limerick against light dues.
BREWING FROM SUGAR BILL AND DISTILLING
FROM SUGAR BILL.
The Earl of CLARENDON, in moving g
the second reading
of these Bills, said that the first Bill had come up on
Thursday last, and the second had been just received,
but as they were similar in their character and provisions, he
thought it would be expedient that they should be both taken
together and read pro form,' 1, and that the discussion on them
should be taken in Committee. To consult the
convenience, therefore, of their Lordships, he should
abstain at present from entering into any statement with re-
spect to them ; but he might observe, that they would be an I

act of justice to their West. Indian colonies, and would not be
productive of injury either to the revenue or the agricultural
interest. At the present time of scarcity and of high juices,
he thought they would not be wholly inoperative in alleviatir.g
the great distress which in evailea throughout the country. lie
would now move that the Brewing from Sugar Bill be read a
second time.

Lord STANLEY observed, that his Nohle Friend was quite
correct in stating that no discussion should take place on these
Bills at this state ; but, at the same time, he thought that the
Noble Earl would not have abstained from stating what
the grounds were en which it was proposed to
make these permanent instead of temporary measures.
These measures were introduced under the cover of being
temporary. These were Bills which might affect materially
this country as well as the colonies, and which, consequently,
would affect. very important interests. When these measures
were brought forward, not as temporary, but as permanents
they ought to look most carefully into all the details and
figures. Unless her Majesty's Government should consent to
refer these Bills to a Select Committee of that Honse, he gave
notice that he would move that these Bills be referred to a
Select Committee of that House.
Lord MONTEAGLE considered that all the Bills con-
nected with the subject should be read together.
The Earl of CLARENDO)ii was reidy to give his Noble
Friend the reasons which had induced the Government to in
troduce Bills of a permanent character. A pledge had been
given in the course of last session on this question which could
not consistently be receded from. 'With respect to the course
proposed to be adopted by his Noble Friend opposite, that
these Bills should be referred to a Select Com-
mittee, he could assure the Noble Lord that
there was nothing complicated, but, on the contrary,
what was most simple in the details of these Bills. They had
already passed through the other House, and even those op
posed to the Bills did not object to the principle upon which
they were based. His Noble Friend opposite had stated that
it was not his intention to create delay, yet he must say that
delay would be created if those Bills were referred to a Select
Committee. If the principle of that motion were agreed to,
there was no Bill involving fiscal or commercial details that
might not be subjected to delay. He therefore felt himself
b iund, on the part of her Majesty's `government, to
resist the motion of the Noble Lord. With respect to what
had been said respecting the Bill relating to the duty on rum,
there had been seine delay, which could not be avoided. His
Right Hon. Friend the Clisncellor of the Exchequer, to whom
he was speaking yesterday on the question, was of opinion
that that Bill should be read first.

Lord STANLEY, when he used the term cover, did not
mean what he had said in any offensive sense. The ground on
which this measure hid bce.i brimoht forward was
not upon any pledge of the House that had
been given to relieve immediate distress ; it was
distinctly referred to in the Speech of her Majesty as one of
those measures to be introduced for the purpose of relieving
the dissress that prevailed.
After a few words from Earl GREY, the two Bills were
read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday.

THE DESTITUTE PERSONS (IRELAND) BILL.
This 13ii1 went through Committee, and was ordered to be
reported on Thursday next.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 16.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY (ISLE OF AX-
HOLNIE EXTENSION).
On the motion of Mr. B. DENISON this Bill was read a
second time.
Sy. IVES (HUNTINGDON) IMPROVEMENT.
On the motion of Mr. GREENE, this Bill was read a
second time.