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not see as they did now every day, not Peers merely writing '
to boroughs, but Peer and purchaser going down together.—.
They would not now see. Cornwall a. sort of open market for
such
..purchasers as the philosophical Member for Bodmin could
tell it was. Nor would it. now- a-tla.ya, be a topic of po.:
liticel conversation as to what sums had been laid out in an
investMent of freemen. With' regard to the question before
the House, the Right Honourable Gentleman oppreite, (Mr.
Canning) told them lie had turned the matter in.his mind, and
thought the appointment of a Committee would not be avail-
' able—zand this was the only answer that was to be made to it.—
The exeellent apeech of lion. and Learned Friend (Mr.
Abercromby), in favour of the notice. could not fail to strike,
evezy one who heard it as unanswerable, and he-hoped it would
prove so/
Lord MILTON did not mean to enter into the question, but
rather to ascertain on what ground his Noble Friend's motion
was resisted. His Noble Friend said it was right that certain
defects should exist in the representative system, whilst the
Right Hon. Gentleman who opposed him made the exposure
of these defects the ground of opposition. He did not wish to
touch his Noble Friend's motion ; but he wished to know
which of the grounds that had been put forward was that upon
'which honourable Meinbe,rs meant to oppose his Noble Friend.
The night Hon. Secretary for the Home Department said,
that they were willing to give .the information if any means
could be devised of getting at it. But he much suspected they
were afraid of the information. It appeared to him, that the,
connection between taxation and representation was as good a
ground as that of population and representation.
Ikir:.PEEL, in explanation, said that he had only taken up,
on his own chewing, the argument of the Noble Mover, and
that as lie had declared the intention of reserving in his view of
Reform, some of the Boroughs, it would be imprUdent to ex.
pose wt detioency in their constitution.
The House then divided on Lord John 'Russell's motion
Ayes . . 90
Noes . - 128—Majority 38.
Mr. W. SMITH moved that there be laid before the house
a return of the Amount from Jannury.lB2l to 11.122, of the Du-
ties on Soft and hard Soap, together with the Amount of Draw.
back on the Exportation. The, lion. Member observed that
his object was to give a comparative view of the amount when
the Ditties were lower.—Adjourned.

MINORITY

ON MR. HUME'S MOTION FOR REDUCING THE OFFICE OP

_LIEUT.-CTENERAL OF 111 F ORDNANCE.-FEB. 19. '
Allyn, J. H. Grattan, J. Pym, F.
Althorp, Visct. Guise, Sir W. Ramsbottorn, John
Astell, Win. Haitlimand, W. Ricardo, D. ,
Baring, H. Hamilton, Lord A. Bickford, Wm.
Barratt, S. M. . Hem, Sir R. , Roberts, A. W.
Benyon, Benj. Hobbouse, J. C. Roberts, (I. J.
Bernal, R. Honey wood,W.P. Robinson, Sir G.
Birch, J. Hurst, R. Rowley, Sir W.
Boughey, Sir J. F. Hutchinson, Hon. Sefton, Earl of
Bright, Henry • • C. H. . Smith, John
Byng, George James, W. Smith, George
Calvert, C. Jcrvoise, G. P. Smith, Hon. Rt.
Chaloner, Robert Lemon, Sir W. Stanley, Lord
Creevey, T. Lewis, W. . ' Tynte, C. K.
Curwen, .1. C. 31aber1y, John Webbe, 'Ed.
Cradock; S. Nlaberly, W. L. Wells, John
Davies, T. • 'Mahon, lion. S. Whitbread, S. C.
Denison, W. J. Marjoribanks, S. Williams, J.
Denman, Thus. Martin, J. Wilson, Sir R.
Duncannon, Visct. Maxwell, J. - .Winnington, Sir T.
Dundas, Charles Milton, Viscount Wood, Alderman
Ebrington, Visct. . Monck, J. B. Wvvill, M.
Ellice, Ed. Nugent, Lord Wigram, W.
Fergusson, Sir R.C. Palmer, C. F. TELLERS.
F i tzgerald, Lord W . : Pelham, Hon. C.A. Bennet, Hon. H. G .
Olenorchy, Lola Pelham, .1: C. • ' flume, Joseph
Mr. W. Whitbread and Mr. W. Wilkins paired oft in fa.
yLoounrg.of Mr. Ilume's motion, with Lord Deerhurst and Sir C.

FOR THE SUN.

POPERY.

MR. EDITON-If you should not judge it in-
convenient, it would afford satisfaction to a coun-
try reader of your valuable paper to be permitt-
ed, through the medium of your columns, to re-
fer those advocates of the Catholic Claims, .who
conceive, like the author of the Cahn Appeal,
that the Papacy is sunk into such insignificancy
that the world need nu longer fear any thing from

its power, to the following extracts from the
Memoirs of NAPOLEON, viz. 46 Had it not been
for the events of the Russian campaign, the Pope
would in 1813, have been Bishop of Rome and
Paris. The establishment of the Court of Rome
In Paris would have been fertile in great poll•

tical events—and the influence which the chief
of Christianity possessed over the faithful in Eng-
land, Ireland, Russia, Prussia, Austria, Hungary,
and Bohemia, would have been the inheritance
ofFrance. This alone explains the speech which
the Bishop of Nantes remembered, but was
unable to explain. One day at Trianon he was
forcibly representing the utility and importance
of the visible Head of the Church of: Jesus
Christ, with respect to the unity of faith !--
" Monsieur Bishop," (said Napoleon) be not
uneasy ; the policy of my States is intimately
connected with the maintenance and power
of the Pope ; it is necessary to me, that he
should be more powerful than ever ; he will
never possess so much influence as my policy
would induce me to wish him to enjoy." Eng.
land may yet have arduous conflicts to sustain
in defence of liberty, both civil and spiritual ;
and should not be shorn of her constitutional
strength.

K. N.

FOREIGN Ti!.A nr.—Yesterdny',at three o'clock,
the Committee re-appointed by the llouse of
Commons assembled for the first time. Mr.
.WALT,Ac, Mr. Pt.tmEtt, Lord ALTiluite, &e.
were present. rrlr. WALLACI.: is the Chair—
man. The Committee discussed the goestion, whether they should commence their
labours with examining further witnesses, or
whether they should content themselves with
documentary evidence, unless circumstances
should arise
,to render the examination of other
witnesses requisite ; but the Committee-room
was cleared, .and shortly after they adjourned
to Monday. As yet, no witnesses have been
summoned ; but it is expocted that the attend-
ance of some Merchants and official men will be
ordered.

FOREIGN IN LIiTNIENT AST.—Yesterday a
meeting of the Overseers, Churchwardens, and
inhabitant Householders of the parish of St. John,
Southwark, took place pursuant to a public notice
at the Vestry Hall, adjoining the church, for the
purpose of taking intoconsideration the propriety
of petitioning the Legislature for a repeal of the
Foreign Inlistment Act. After,some discussion,
the Petition was agreed to, there being only three
dissentient voices.