The Sun.
London, England, 1841-02-06 00:00:00

our files of New otk Pspers to the Bth ult., brought
by th-. packet ship Cambridge; we find tl at the case of
Mr. iii'Lcod has be.::n breuv,lit before Cor.grcer. This
person, a British subject, and a naive of Canada, was re-
cently seized by order of the autb.otities of the State el
Ness York, on the alleged ground tlist be had been
gaged L. hurning the st.an.t.cat Caroline during the
Canadian rebellion -of I 537. Mr. F. x. the British
Miaister at Washington, de scanded the lib. r;•ion of Mr.
and a correspondence o the sulkct toil-. place
bete, en Lim sod Mr. Forsyth, the U..i ed States' Secre-
tary of State, which has been sotirni,.te:d to Congre,s.
-Mr. Fox has called upon the Government of th:. United
States to take prompt and effectual st pz for toe liberation
of Mr. M'Lee d. t• 1,. in well known," sass .Mr. Fox,
4‘ that 01e f the tee,entmat Ciir.liao was a
puti'c 11.. t of per.onp i Sr.. M. t s'.;'d service. cilwying the
-ordaes superior autho!itiet. Islet t act, tner, fore,
ne..,,rding to the utaige s of nit•ions, can arty be the subject
of discus,ion betwe. o the two national Gorernmenti. It
cannot jo,tly be trade the ground of legal prootedings in
the United States against the indishinals concerned, who
w. re bound to obey the authotities appointed by their own
Go:crnment." Mr. For,...)th, in his reply, after stating.
tii anxi:ols desire cf his G ive raTer.t to maintain amicable
relations lktwcen the United States and England, says—
" 17. is tarn with unfeigned regret that the President
finds himself unable to r.cognise the salidity of a demand,
a compthatice with which you deem so material to the
presenatiJa of the food understanding nbich has been
iiithcrto tnanifestcd between the two countries.

The juris.!iction a the several Sta-es which cmistituto
the Union is, within its appr:prLte spLeTe, perfectly in-
dependent of the Federal Guv,runr:nt. The offence
with which Al`Lcod :s ehaig,d was cornalit!ed within the
territoiy, ind against the laws and &air, as, of the State
of New Yo:k, and is ot:e that comes clearly within the
coa-,paency of her ti burr.ds. do. a not, thereicre, pre-
sent an cceasion where, under the consti:wion and laws
of the Union, the interpositim called for woul i be pro.
per, for which a warralnt can be found in the powers with
wich the FederalExect.fv-.. limited. Nyr would the
circumstances to which you kve referred, or the reasons
you hare urged,
.',ust:fy the exertion of such a power, if it
existed."

Mr. Fox. in reply to the note of Mr. Forsyth, dated
li.teernber 26, is which the application for the relict of
M.Leod is T efu3A, regrets this refusal, and intitnates that
it, and the ill-treatment of Mr. M•Leod, hill bed to the
most grave and serious consequences. He states again
edit the attack on the Caroline was trade in pursuance of
orders from the C...,!anial Authorities, wed he says that the
Carol c was a piratical vessel, and sees but nominally
eithin the jurisdiction of the Uuired Staecs. The autho-
rities of New York had beer, unable to ruaietaia their ju-
risdiction at the pl :cc where the C.e.cliee was trtacked, or
even to prevent the pirates hem carrying cff from that
place the canton belonging to the State. He was not
authorized-to state what were the views of her Majesty's
Gevernmeet on this .tut,ject, hut he took this occasion to
pace his own epinion en record.
Mr. Re s. th expresses lis belief that Mr. Fox would
not entertain this opinion if he bad s: en the t 4 hole evi-
dence on the subject, which was ere fully collected by the
United States, and communieeeed to the Britis't Govern.
ment. Ile had no more to soy to Mr. Fox en the matter,
and awaits the result of the demand upon Great Britain
for reparation.
The reading of these documents, the two first having
been communicated prior to the second and tiled, gave rise
to irregular, but somewhat excited, discussion: in the
House of Representatives. Ail the Nlenibers who spoke
approved of the manlier in which Mr. Forilth had met
the demand of Mr. Fox fur the liberation of M'L col. Mr.
Alford, of Georgia, said that, es a seuthsrn man, he had
not more sympathy towards the north-eastern territory
than he ought to have; but he did know that the lion
of England had been growling for his prey on
that north-eastern boundary lor! ago. As an
American citizen he felt. humbled at the reflection
that under the administration of Martin Van Buren, the
eagle cf the United States had cowered under the lion of
England. lie felt humbled, that a country which, even
in the days of the revolution, was strong enough to defend
its tights, should now permit the Q.reen of England to
deprive them of everything. Mr. Holmes, of South Ca-
rolina, asked whether the remarks made by Mr. Alford
were to be considered ominous of the future acti ,n of the
new Administration. Were they to judge, from the re-
marks made b 3 one of its friends, that the country was
to be precipitated into a eel:filet with this mighty power,
prepared and armed at every point, and that, too, for a
line of demarcation ? If they were to rush into the con-
flict, if the south was to be prostrated, he was thankful
that gentlemen had shown their hands, that the south
might know that one of the results attending the triumph
of this great party was a question of territorial war.

M-. Alford, in reply, said that he had merely spoken his
owa sentiments. Hi; owa wish was, that the United
States should never war with Great Britain on this or any
other question, if war could be henourebly avoided.
Mr. Cushinv had been delighted to hear the patriotic
sentiments winch had fallen from the lips of the Member
from Georgia, and believed that, upon reflection, they
would find approval even in the heart of the Member from
South Carolina.

After the second and the third letters had been read, a
debate followed, in which

Mr. Dais, of ladiana, having intimated that he was
tired of the wr,rds " amicable rolaticns," that he did not
wish the land of the lion heart and ePgle ec to crouch
t.) the British Government,"
Mr. Granger replied, and afr,-, whatever,
the I,Tril..m.rit in ‘Vcsttrti New York on this subject
Nl•Lcod could have a fair trial. he said—

" If upon that trial be oan hr shown to be innocent, he
v. ill be cquitted ; if he chould be proved guilty, beyond
the possibility of doubt, he will be cove/mind; and, if
conlemned, he trill be executed his execution bring duo
to the Eupremccy of the laws of the State of New York.
That act performed—if the British Government should
hastily take upon herself to redress the supposed wrong,
she will find in Western New York the same blood that
was there in I Sl2—uttb:ught by British gold—unbought,
and to be b;ught only by that love s!' country tlett has
marked hcr, and that has marked the whole people
of this wiJe-spread confederacy. I have no fear, as
the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Davis) s,-ems to
have, that this country will ever crouch to the Bri-
tish lion. She bill art eau iously and dispassionately ;
...he trill execute the laws within their proper limits wisely
and josh ; end, trlton that is done, my word for it, the
gentleman f,om Indiana need not fear that either the Ge-
neral Government or the State of N:l4' Yj:k will quail
bcf, re the British lion.'

A correspontl:nt of one of the Nec, York papers, writ-
ing from 'sVadtingt.)ll, nialys Ctc tollowing remarks on the
earr.,ipondenee, and the debates tc which its reading had
given :
" Mc. F.hrsyth, however, has suggested a course which
a pac ti disposition and sound discretion ought to sanction,
viz., that the :scp.irate and independent action of tic autho-
rities of Now York, and of national diplomacy between
the two countries, in such a task, should proeet d pa,i passu
and simultaneously. We presume, or should hope, that
there is a 'competence in the Chancery or other powers of
New Yolk to conf srin to such a tube. Lis I thus afford all
possible opportunities for an amicable adjustment of the
difficulty. If the Government of Great B. i:ain sees rea-
sons for seeking an occasional quarrel, of course there is
no remedy. This new and unexpected position is a just
matter of surprise, more especially that Mr. Fox should
seize open common rumour or common impressions as a
material for diplomatic argument, as a thing granted be-
tween the two Goternments, when it had never been
touched by them.
.• The President's Message, in reply to the resolution
of the blouse calling for information as to any proceedings of
the British Government by which our trade with China
had been interrupted, had been' received, read, and refer-
red to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
Mr. Stevenson, in a letter to Lord Parmerston, in-
quires, whether the Order in Council of the 3d of April,
nuthorising reprisals upon vessels and Felicity of
Chinese subjects. would he sa construed as to extend to
vessels and property of merchants resident in Canton, and
consigning vessels to agents resident iu Canton. He
enters into an argument to show that it should not, tinder
national be so construed. Ile mentions that some
American merchants had large permanent establishments
at Canton, and that some of their vessels laden with Bri-
tish and American goods were delayed in several posts
until they could be assured of safety in their intended
vo:. ages.
" The reply of Lord Palmerton is, that the Law of
Nations would justify Great Britain in dealing with the
vessels and property of residents in Canton in the same
manner as with the vessels and property of Chinese sub-
j eta ; that the order was based ou that principle, but,
igi.hoo,,n,rri:Not'ofvc:
emabteornLboyrudajlle:caititss
inne vc.(o,rmi hnei laensds,
ttoh actpdpiirye otthi oens
orderi,ad been goivecn
ir.ointalsice AsAdmiral
son, that the necessary
for the preFent. But on the
merston gave notice to I.llr. Steven
rbayndc.opmmand of her Majesty,
,thtfae,,,krmei'n.e,this time, all the measures au -
thorized by the Law
of Nations will be adopted and rneft:lretartsakinierceebsslo;lelakadanddebteloicafnt
exe-
cuted with respect to all vessels which may attempt to vio-
late the said blockade.'"