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London, England, 1815-01-23 00:00:00

PROPERTY TAX.

We' understand a Meetlng of the Inhabitants' of
the- Ward of' Queen h ith Ayas heid on Airednesday
last;.the.Wortify-Sir Wml.`ldk'vit:t.t;Bart, in the
Cliair',•• and it was -resolved, by a' very thin meet-
ing; that a Petition .should .be presented to. the
House of Commons -against the renewal of the
Property Tax. This Ward is small, considered
,With many, but relative to its respectability, inde-
pendence; and real constitutional principles, on
all occasions manifested by:theleading men there=
it. inferior to none. We observed,, even
mong• the Gentle Men. whost official situations
Commanded their attendance, a strong diveisity
of opinion respecting thi proprietr.Of thellesd-
lution agreed to. - - • •-
A Meeting of the Nierchants, Traders, and other
Inhabitants a the City of 'Bristol, Was held at the
Guildhall:there on Friday,laSt; to petition against
the continuance-of the Property Tax.—Mr. R.H.
Davis, one of the M. P.'s for the'City, rose
with si vieW to' state the StibsanCe of a
Correspondence with Lind' Livcaroot. -and hini-
self, the purport or whieb was, that he, Arr. D.
had objected 't.O' the continuance of the Tax, but
if lie • could be• assured that it would finally cease
On' the 6th of April, 1816; 'he thonght no better
plan Could be devised for Winding up the espencea
of the War.---The Petition volts- cairieJ,

KIIERMAN. PAPERS,

'DP-P.ITCTIES FTIONI.GHENT.-

.I.IESAAGE FROM THE' PRESIDENT,

" To the Smote tvallouse of Representeitiees of Vet
V '.''trues. • • . " ec . 1 S :4.,

, .
" I transtnit for the information Of -Ctingress,
the conitutinications: last received from the Mini-
':yrs Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the
• ITlqted States at Ghent, explainitig- the coutse
and acting state of- their negatiatton.with the
Plenipotentiaries of Great Britain.
- , JAMES :kfADISON."

No. 1.---copy of a Letter from Messrs. Adams, Bayard, Clay,
ant Gallatin, to tl4e Secretary 'of Stith, dated '
CThent,- Oct. €7, ISl4y;
SI it `have the honour of transmitting
copies of all our cOrrespon.tlenee with
PlenipOtentiaries, sinee'the-tkparture
of Mr. Dallas. Although the negociation 'has

not terminated so abruptly is we expected at that
period thatit would, we have no reason to retract
the 'opinion which we then expressed, that no
hopes of peace as likely to result front it, could
be entertained. It is true, that the terms which
the British .Government hail so peremptorily pre-
seribcd at that time, bare been apparently aban-
doned, and-that the sine quit non'then required as
a prejiminary to all discussion upon other topics-,
has been reduced to an article securhig merely-
an ladian:patitication; rind] we have agreed to
accept,- subject to the ratification or rejection ot
our Government, but- you will perceive that our
I.Ni:est for the exchange of a projet of a Treaty
has been chided,. ant} that in their last note; The
Britidr Plenipotentiaries hake advanced a deinaud
not only nett and inadmissible, but totally,incorn-
patible cv-:th their uniform previous declarations,
that Great Britain had. no view in this negotia-
tion to any acquisition of territory. ;It will be
perceived, that-this new pretension was brought
forward immediately after • the accounts had been.
received, that a British force hail taken possession
ot ail that part of the State. of Massachusetts,
situate East:of tenohscot river. The British
Plenipotetitiaries have invariably referred to their
Government every note received ffoin. us, and
waited the
.return of their messenger beforelhey
have 'transmitted to us their answer, and-. the
whole tenor of the correspondence; as well as The.
Ina:Hier in which it has been conducted cat the
part of the British Girt-eminent,
.have concurred
to convince us, that their object ltas_ been -delay.
Their motives tor this policy we.presittne.tohave
been to keep the alternative of peace or a pro-
tracted war in,their own hands, tmtil a general.
arrangement 'of Etircipectit affairs should be • ae-
cOmplisht:diat the Congress of Vienna, and until
they could avail theniselves of the advantages,
which they have anticipated from .the imecess of
their arms, during the present campaign in
America: • •
Although the Sovereigns who had determined-
to be present at the 'Congress of -Vienna have
been -Mre'ady serer,' weeks assembled- there, it
• cfcles not appear by the laSt atlvicts ftrtiir that
place that the Congress has been fotinallv
On the contrary, by a declaration front Chu Pleiii•
pOteutiatics of. the Powers, who' were parties to
the Pea&of Paris of 30th May 'last, the opening
of thi! Congrc3s appears 'to- have beim :postponed
to the Ist of Novemher; A Memorial is. said -to
have been..present'ed by "the French Anibassador
Talleyrand, which it is declutch that Fiance
baying returned tn, her boundaries-'in 1792, -can
recognize none of the aggrandizeincnts of- the
Other 'great': Power:, of Europe sine 'that period,
although not intending to op?ose'thetti by war.
These circumstanCes'indicate that-the new basis'
for the politi,L.ai- system of- Europe will sro
settled as had
_her ii eXpeeted:•• Theprin-;
ciplethus assumed-by France is very extensive :in
its effects, and opens a field for negotiation to-rich
wider than had been icinticipated. We think it
does not promise an aileet of-immediate tran+
quillity to this Continent, and that it Will discon-
cert particularly the measures which Great: Bri-
tain ;Etas been tuking-with regard, to -the future
destinationof this country, among others, and to
which she has attached apparently much import
ance.—We hive the. honour to be, -with great re.
spect, Sir, your very hamble servants, • •
J. QUINCY. ADAMS, . JONA. RUSSELL)
J. A. BAYAItI), A. GALLATIN.
H. CLAY; .

No. EX.—BRITISH NOTE.

[From the British to the American Minister.;
October 21, 1813
_ _

IThis Note commences by ackuowledgiiig the
receipt of one from the American Plenipoteiitiarii:si,
of the l'3th October, nolifyin,}..; their accepstiitiee
the article Which hail been proposCd by tlie4iritish
Commissioners, on the subject of the pacification
and rights of the Indian nations and' declares
their willingfiess to wane the advantage to which
they (the British), think they were fairly entitled
of,requiring from them the first projet of a treaty-
-The note- then refers to the following points, 4
.whicki, in the opinion of his Majesty's,Govern-
went, yet remain to he adjusted -
Wien respect to the forcible' seizure of mariners
,frotu on board :tuerchUnt-xessels on the high sca,
.awl.the right,of the Ilng,of Great ,Britain tothie
allegiance of all his native subjects, and with re-
Apect to the maritime rights of. the British
the,undersi,rned conceive, that a-fter.theptv-
i.i
,tensions
,sertetlby the Govertimient of-the Unit6l
states, a more satisfai:tory, proof of the couctli:-:1
atory spirit of his-'4,,,jajesty's Goyernment .eatitiot
.he given, than, by nut- requiring:any stipulatiOn
on those subjects, whjh, uulu►rttint
in themselves; no 'longer., in consequence (it the,
AnaritimepacifiCation of,Europeoroduce the same.
,practieal resuhs.
,Ott the subject of tfte.lllls-.
•ries, the unders4.-,ruca expressed.-with: so mitgit:
frankness, at; the 'conference. airt,atiK ic;ft!;
the views..of tiCeir S.i9vtitunient, that they colisidi:c
any further, olkserVaCons 00 that. topic as, ininece:,-
.sary at the pre-ent
On the, trie-stion of the boundary (1e;.1,1ft,:.3,1.111e
..daminiiiiqA of Jii;Majestyrtiviltiiil
Stites;:titie untleTsigit-eal-:a-reied to expect fyout the
discnssiott"which this .4itbjeCt hail' aireaty undcr
gone,lthat the. Nort4l-3V,eslero bOntlll4.l, the
fake of the Woolli to. the fll 155ipp.i (th,e intend
ed arrangement: if 1 will be admitted wiol-,
out objecticiti.• •in to- other buundmic-,.;

etii potelitlArle3 -I.ltrir It-ott of
Angust th-24th,..ai!peared in sonic ucasure;
tee
object to,tlic -propnsition,, then made by the under-
signed, :as nut being • the- basis Of -rib/ possiittis,
'The undersigned are;wiiiiivg to treat Oi th-at
subject to well modification as mutual conv'e-
'nience may be foplid to require ; and they trust
that the Auierican Plenivitentiaries will'sbew by
their ready acceptance of this basis, ..that they
duly appreciate the, moderation of his Majesty's
-.tiovertituctitin so far consulting the honour and
fair pretensions ,of the United States, as in the
•relative situation of the two countries; to autho-
Tise such a proposition. The ;Undersigned avail
• themselves of this opportunity to reneW-to the
American Plenipotentiaries the assurance of their
-high consideration.
(Signed) (lAMBI VR;
H. GOULBORN,

WM. ADAM.

;No. X.—AMERICAN NOTE.
[From the American to the British Ministers.)

OctoLer 9.4,1914.

'the Undersigned have the honour to acknow--
ledge the receipt of the Note of the British Ple-
nipotentiaries of the 21st instant. Amongst the
general observations which the Undersigned, in
tbeir_Note Of the,.T4th August, made on the pro-
positions "then' brOught forward' °trete part of the
British Governnsent; they remarked that those
propositions were founded 'neither on. the basis
of nii prissidetis, nor on. that of stutus an4e
But so far were they'frinn suggesting the uti poui-
delis as the basis on which they were disposed to
treat, that in 'the same Note they expressly
stated, that they had beetr instructed, to con-
clude a peace on the- prit -iple of both parties
re:.toting wfiatever territory they might. hate
.taken, The Undersigned 'also declared, in that
Note that they Lad no authority to cede any part
of the territory of Jhe linitctl 'States, and that to
no stipulation to that elleetwould they subscribe;
and in the Note of the 9th September; after hav-
ing shewn that the basis of uti possidetis, such as
it was known, to exist at the commencement of
the`negociation, gave no. claim to his Britannic
Majesty to cessions of territory founded upon the
right of conquest; their added, Oat eyen if the
chances Of War should give to the British arias a
momenta's posssion-ot -flier parts of thelerri-
tory of the United't;tates, such erws would not
altertbcir Views with tcgard 'to teims of peace to
Which they would give, their cimsent:

only repeat those de-
.
'lice Unders!gned'can now
claraticins,, and decline treating upon the basis of
uti poSidetis, or 'upon any other principle involy-;
iug a cession of any part of the territory of the
United _States. As they have Uniformly stated,
they can treat only Upon the principles of a mutual
ycStoration of whatever territofy may:nave been
taken by either party. From this principle they
cannot recede, and the Undersigned, sifter the re-
:pcated decl.aratior,i of the British -Plenipoten-
tiaries, that Great Britain had no view toacqui-
sititmi of territory:in this Negociatinir, deem it
necessary tt) add; that the utility of its cooti.
motoce depends on their adherence to this join-

ciple.
'rite Undersigned Navin
.declared in their Note
of 21st August, that, although instructutl and
prepared "to enter into an athicahle discitiision of
all the points, on which differences or unevilainty
had existed, and which might hereafter tend-40
interrupt the harmony of the two countries, they
would .not make--the conelusion' of the .peach at all
depend. upon: a sueeessful result of -the discus*ion,
and having since agreed-to, the -preliminnry
arti-
cle proposed by th•thitish
.Goverhntent, had be-,,
lieved that the. Ncgociation, already-so, long.pro-..
tracte4i, ...could not be brought to an early conclu-
sion otherivise'ilian by the communication,. of n.
project, embracing all the other specific ,proposi-
. Lions wshich Great Britain intended to offer. They.
repeat their kegnest in that respect, and will have:
. no objectionAu a, simultaneous exchange -of- the,
projcts of both purties.—This-course: will bring
fairly into dikwssion the other topics embraced 'in
the last
.note of tbeißritish Plenipotentiaries, to
which the Undersigned have thought, it unneces-
sary to advert at the present tinse.--TheUnder-
signed renew to the British ,Plealpinentiarics the.
assurance of their high consideration. .
(Signed) -J.• QUINCY AP.N.?O, J. RUSSELL.
J. A-BAYARD, 0..11.1...11 IN.
• H. CLAY,

No. XL...—Copy of a Letter from the American Commissioners'
t 6 the Secretary of State, dated,
• • Ghent, Oct. 31, 1814.
Sitt,--The detention of the 'Chauncey at Os-
tend; etiableS us to-send the 'incloSed Note from
the' iritish Pleniptitentiaries, which we have just
received. . .

No. MI.—BRITISH NOTE.—From -the British to the Amer
rican .Micvistcrs.

October M.

The Undersigned have the hon Our to acknowr
ledge the .receipt of the Note addressed to theut
by the Anictier
att Plenipotentiaries on the 24th inr
stain,. in which they object to the, basis of uti posr
prolioed, by the nndersigiled, as that op
whichthey are
,to treat in regard to paq
of the boundary between the dominions of his i\la"
jest y and tinise. of the. United-States.

;\niericau Pleuipoteniiariesin their Note
of the 13th imtant, tequested the undersigned t?
coininutijciite them the projet of a treaty, em-
bracing all the points.in§isted on by Great Britain,
engaging op their part to deliver immediately after
a eoimi, pvojet,4s" to all the articles to which they
might not..agfee-, and as to all the subjects deemed
material by the. United States, and omitted in the
proj the Undersigned. .
The Uiniersigned were accordingly instrunted to
waive the question of etiquette, aura the advantage
Nirltiehiniight reknit from receiving the first commit-
. nication,, and cpnlidiugin the engagement of the
merican Plenipotentiaries communicated in their.
Notes of the 21st lust, all the points upon which
they are itistNeted to insist.

-.,.:;flie,Anierieau 'Plenipotentiaries hav'e objectc'd
to one essential part of the projet Alms cOlinnimi-
czfied, but before the Undersigned can enter into
the dostnission of this objection, they ninStrequire,
from the Ainirican 'Plettipoientiaries 'that; '..pkii-
suant to their engageMent, they wrill deliver a con 7
tra-raojet, Containing then- objections' to the
points submitted by the Undersigned,- together
with a ht at e ut of such further points as the

ICToverwrohit. -of tie Unitesi !States (Jnsititt t.) •be
mate pal. • . • ,

The I.llidelOgned. Are. authorised cn, ;trite4- k!:ts-
tincity, tii t the tide n 4. fu rite. ocitieailon and
rights of theludad Natiint's having,
they have' brought forward itt'thvit Note Alt tlee
21st instaat, ;411,-the- propoitioils they _have to.
.offer. have nu outlier deivands to: wake, no
other stiptiLitioos.on ‘c=hick they are. iost meted to
insist, and they ate empowervd,to sign a I.teaty
'of Peace totth with io coin °Entity with those stat-
ed in their former Note. , .

Thelitidtirsigued•trust,:therefore, that tiltes.Adtte-:
rican Plenipolcutiaries xxill no longer- hesitate-to '
bring forward, in the forth-of -articles,
wive as:. they 'nay prefer,. those specific: proposi
tions upon xtiltich they. arc empOwered.to;,sign
Treaty of Pearce between the -two,eottotries• ,
The Undentigned avail theinselves'ofthe,ptesert,
opportunity tc.l renew to' the .-Pleniputentiaries.of •
the Elnited Sties the assurance of their high con-
sideration.

(Si-4 d) C;.1...\1•111ER
11. 60L:LBU1tN.

WM. ADAM.

The reading tif the above documents, which
occupied the ren irinder of this-day's session, was
heard with the 4epest attention, and the latter,
papers, as well a the first, were read over a se-
cond and, some it third time. After the reading
was finished, sonie conversation-took place as to
the number of these documents Which it wouli be
proper to print, whether the usual number of
5000. In the course of son-te retnarks in favour
of the latter titimbir, iMr. Pickering took occasion
to say that the letters of our Ministers displayed
an ability which wits honoitrable to them.
In the end 5000 copies were ordered to be print-
ed, and the House Aoljourned. •

HOUSE OF REPRESL`NTATIVEs; Tll.l rtsixti, Nov. 24.

BILLS

. ,
The House resolved itself: into a Coinniittee• on the several
Tax Bills. '1:1,:a. for layiti3 a day on distilled licitiors Was.first
talieti up. Vatiuus amelalltients were cia,oe,. and the hlutdis
filled.