The Sun.
London, England, 1847-11-23 00:00:00

WESTMINSTER.

John Lloyd was placad at the bar, charged with
being concerned with Thomas Doyle, George
M'Koy, and Thomas Sale, the particulars of whose
examination have been already fully detatled, in the
murder and robbery of Mr. Bellchambers.
William Meyers, of the King's Head, Orchard-
street, Westminster, said—l was serving in the bar of
the house on the morning of the 11th inst. (that on
which Mr. Bellchambers came to his untimely end).
I know the prisoner; I saw him there at about half-
past three. He was sitting in front of the her. He
went out at about a quarter-past four. He was not in
company with the prisoners (M'Koy, Doyle, and
Sale) in the house.
Mr. Baonanir—Did he leave the house in company
with them ? i:ness—He did.

Mr. BRODERIP (to prisoner at the bar)—Do you
wish to ask the witness any questions ? Prisoner—
I did not go out with them. He did not see me sit-
ting in front of the bar.

kr. BRODERIF—I will hear anything you wish to
say, prisoner, presently; but do you wish to put any
questions to the witness ?—The prisoner did not put
any question.
Prongar, a police-constable of the B division, said
—I took the prisoner into custody in the New-cut,
Lambeth, and told him what he W 23 charged with.
He said he knew nothing about it, but he did not deny
leaving the house a little before four.
Prisoner—Did you see me in company with
Doyle, M'Koy, and the other ? Prongar—go ; but
I saw you a few minutes before four standing at the
door of the house.

Mr. BRODERIP having intimated that he was ready
to hear anything that the accused had to say.
Prisoner said, I went out before the men Doyle,
11.1‘Koy, and the other. I went home and was in bed
by four o'clock. I was not in company at all with
Doyle and the others. My father can prove I was in
bed by four o'clock.

BRODERIP, addressing Mr. Taylor, an inspec-
tor of the B division, said—Have you the prospect of
further evidence against the prisoner if remanded ?
Mr. Taylor—l have.
Mr. BRODERIP (to the prisoner)—lt is my duty to
remand you upon this very serious charge until
Thursday next.
The prisoner was then removed.
MARYLEBONE.

William Grummett, John Hall, Henry Windsor,
George Windsor, George Rodu:ell, and James Spencer,
were placed at the bar on the charge of having un-
lawfully dragged for fish in a pond in an enclosed part
of the park of Lord Mansfield, Caen-wood, Hamp-
stead, and stealing therefrom about 40Ibs. weight of
perch, roach, dace, &c.
His Lordship's agent, whose name did not trans-
pire, attended during the proceedings.
It appeared from the evidence, which was gone into
at some length, that at half-past one o'clock on the
same morning, as police-constable Cook, 198 S, was
on duty around Lord Mansfield's grounds, between
Highgate and Hampstead, he heard a number of men
talking, and on going to the spot whence the sounds
proceeded, he saw Grummett getting over a fence
near a pond ; the other prisoners were dragging the
said pond with nets, and Grummett, under whose
directions the party were acting, told witness it was
all right, that they had received permission to drag,
and had been there before ; he alleged that the
person who had authorised them to get fish
was Thomas Caughlin, foreman to the Hamp-
stead Water-works Company; another constable
was sent to make inquiry as to the fact, and
he returned with information that the foreman
alluded to had given permission, as above stated ; it
was, however, deemed necessary to give the prisoners
into custody, in order that the matter might be fully
inquired into. Two wooden pails, which were com-
pletely filled with the fish, were produced before tine
magistrate. It was further shown that the Hampstead
Water-works Company had for many years rented of
his Lordship the water of his ponds, but not of the
one in question, and that it was conveyed to their
premises by under-ground pipes. Grummett was
now employed in making a pond for Sir Thomas
Wilson at Hampstead-heath, and as he had applied
for a few fish to stock it with, Caughlin had told him
that he might have a few, but made no mention as ti
the particular pond he was to go to. He (Caughlin)
had not seen Grummett since, until after the latter was
taken in charge.

The agent said that Caughlin could have no right
whatever to give permission for the taking away of
fish from enclosed parts by any one, the water merely
being rented by the comprny.
The MAIIISTRA.T6 (having heard all the evidence
adduced) decided upon remanding the prisoners till
Monday next.
They were bailed b appear on that day, and in-
structions were given by Mr. Broughton with regard
to the solicitor for Earl Mansfield, and the secretary
to the water-works company, being communicated
with upon the subject, so that they may have an oppor-
tunity of attending at the next examination.
James Malone, aged 19, described as a clerk, was
brought up at the instance of Mr. Barker, superin-
tendent of the London and North-Western Railway
Company's police, charged with having defrauded the
said company of 9s. 4id., the amount of third class
fare from Birmingham to London. He had no ticket
when it was demanded of him at the Euston station,
neither had he any money wherewith to pay his fare.
He was convicted in the penalty of 205., or 14 days'
imprisonment.
Robert Singer Revell, a cab proprietor and driver,
was charged with having stolen a wooden pad, the
property of Mrs. Mary Hayward, landlady of the
Load of. Hay, Hampstead.
The evidence adduced was to the effect, that on
Saturday night last, at eleven o'clock, the son of the
prosecutrix went up to his bed-toom, and on looking
out of the window saw the prisoner take up the pail
from the door, put it into his cab, and drive off. He
was pursued and stopped, and on the article being
found in his possession he was given into custody.
The prisoner denied having stolen the pail, and said
that it must have been placed in the vehicle by another
man, with whom he had been larking at the public..
house door. He hoped he should be able on a future
occasion to bring that person forward..---He was bailed
to appear again to-morrow week.
MARLBOROUGH-STREET.

Benedict Murphy was brought up for final exami-
nation, charged with having embezzled several
amounts received from customers, on account of his
employer, Mr. Thomas Walker, stove manufacturer,
Birmingham.
Mr. Walker said he kept two shops in Birming-
ham 58 and 302, Oxford-street. The prisoner was
in his employ as collector. It was his duty to pay
over all moneys, collected by him, to Samuel Spencer,
the clerk.

Th• Rev. Henry Lea, of 50, Noel-street, Islington,
said he paid the prisoner three separate amounts at
different times, namely, Si. twice, and 21. 10s. 9d. on
account of Mr. Walker.

Mr. Edward Massey, nautical instrument maker,
17, Chadwell street, said he paid the prisoner Si. on
account of his employer.
Samuel Spencer, clerk to Mr. Walker, said the
prisoner had never handed these amounts over to him.
There were several other cases of a similar cha-
racter, but as the witnesses were not present, they
were not proceeded with.
In defence, the prisoner admitted that he had col-
lected the money, and had appropriated it to his own
use, but it was his full intention to have replaced all
the money he had so collected and not accounted for.
He was fully committed.
John Charles Williams, a young man of respect-
able appearance, was charged with the following im-
pudent robbery and fraud :
Mr. Lander, haberdasher and draper, 5, Little
Pulteney-street, said the prisoner, about the 18th of
October last, applied to him for the place of shopman.
Being in want of an assistant, he asked the prisoner
for a reference to his last employer. The prisoner
said he had lived with Messrs. Drew and Drap, Park-
street, Bristol, and referred to those parties. Witness
wrote to Bristol and received an answer in due course,
which answer proving satisfactory, the prisoner was
engaged. On the following day the prisoner asked
leave to go out to put a letter in the post- office ;
leave was granted, and the prisoner went out, but
never returned again. Shortly after he was gone,
between forty and fifty silk handkerchiefs, worth
about 61., were missed. Witness the next day re-
ceived his own letter from the Post-office, NN ith a
notice that Messrs. Drew and Drap were not known.
John Bell said he was formerly shopman to Mr.
Lander. The prisoner was appointed to take his
place. Soon after the prisoner came, witness was
dressing the window, and was showing the prisoner
how this was usually done. The prisoner asked
where the bandanas were kept. Witness pointed out
the _drawer to him. In a short time afterward', on
looking into the drawer, the greater portion of the
handkerchiefs were gone. The prisoner had pre-
viously absconded on pretence of having a letter to
put into the post. Witness met the prisoner some
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