The Sun.
London, England, 1847-06-02 00:00:00

PE CITION OF JOHN DAIVON.

Mr. FERRAND moved that the petition of John
Dawson, complaining of the imprisonment of his daugh-
ter, Mary Dawson, for quitting her work, be printed
with the votes —Agreed to.
STATIONERY EXPENSES.

Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number and
expense of the various papers that were ordered to be
printed by Parliament during the last sesbion.

CHINA.

Dr. BOWRING inquired of the Secretary to the
Colonies, whether an ordinance issued by the Governor
of Hong-Kong, dated the 11th day of March last, and
which appropriates 4,6001. of the revenue of that colony
to the building of an Anglican church, has received the
sanction of her Majesty's Government ; whether an or-
dinance of the same date, which repeals the ordinance of
1844,by which certair. rights of appeal were provided in the
Supreme Court of Judicature against consular decisions,
has ben approved by the Home Colonial authorities?
Mr. HA WES said that, with regard to the first ques-
tion, Sir Henry Pottinger, in the year 1843, when Lord
Stanley was Secretary for the Colonies, brought under the
consideration of the Government the necessity of building
a church at Hong-Kong, and an agreement was
entered into that if they subscribed one-third of
the amount, the other would be supplied by the
Government. That was done, and the money
was accordingly advanced. With regard to the
other part of the question, he was not in a position to
answer it, as he had not the proper documents in his
possession; ne would, however, make inquiries and he
would be happy to give all the information required.
THE LORDS' AMENDMENTS.

Mr. GREENE brought up the report of the Select
Committee appointed to draw up reasons for the House
disagreeing with the Lords' amendments.
TAXING-MASTERS IN IRELAND.

Mr. GOULBURN wished to know from the Right
lion. Gentleman the Solicitor-General whether it was his
intention to bring in a Bill for correcting what was mani-
festly an error with respect to the office of taxing-master
to the Queen's Bench in Ireland. It was the duty of
the taxing-master to investigate all questions of costs
and certain matters with respect to railway compsni..s ;
thus a great increase of labour had been thrown upon
the one taxirg-master. There were five taxing masters
in the Queen's Bench of this country, and the work
thrown upon one master was considerable.

Mr. MONAHAN (the Solicitor-General for Ireland)
said the matter to which the Hon. Gentleman had re-
ferred bad only been brought under his attention within
the last few days. It appeared that the officer
referred to was the proper person to tax the costs,
but it also appeared that he had objected,
because there was no remuneration attached
to the office. It was right that an adequate
remuneration should be attached to the office. He did
not think a Bill could be brought forward on the subject
during the present session.
IRISH RAILWAYS.
Sir R. PEEL said that the Noble Lord in his speech
the other evening did not make any mention of the Irish
Railways Bill. He had had a communication addressed
to him by several parties who were most anxious to
know the intention of the Government on the subject.
Lord JO FIN RUSSELL said that a report had been
presented upon the subject, and as soon as it was printed
it would be laid before the House. He was nor prepared
to make any further vote for these railways this session.
—(Both the question of the Right Hon. Baronet, and
the answer of the Noble Lord were very indistinctly
heard in the gallery).
THE CASE OF SIR EARDLEY WILMOT.
Mr. SPOONEI wished to know whether his
Noble Friend would permit his motion relative
to the case ut Sir E4rlley Wilmot to be brought for-
ward at once. He could assure his Noble Friend that
nothing should fall from him at all likely to promote any
disagreeable discussion. He wished merely to state, that
the charges made against him had been most fully refuted.
Under these circumstances he hoped that the course
which it was intended to pursue would not be perse-
vered in.

Lord LINCOLN said, though unwilling to accede to
the request of the Hon. Gentleman on public grounds,
when the private feelings of the gentleman's relatives
were so intimately concerned, he would comply with
the request of the Hon. Gentleman, if the other Mem-
bers of the House were willing to do so.
Mr. HUME said he was not at all willing to accede to
the request of the Hon. Gentleman; and the cause was
that no speech could be made without a reply. He
hoped the Noble Lord would proceed in the usual way.
Mr. BOUVERIE said that acting upon personal feel.
ing he would be inclined to agree with the lion. Gentle-
man (Mr. Spooner), and hoped that the lion. Member
for Montrose would desist.
_ _

Mr. HUME said that he would not, unless it was un-
dPrstood that there would be no reply to the speech
that might be made.

Mr. V. SMITH said it was impossible that the Noble
Lord could bring his motion forward without something
being said either for or against the late Secretary for
the Colonies. It would be most unwise, therefore, to
bring the subject before the House under such circum-
stances.

Mr. SPOONER said he had received a letter from the
late Secretary of State for the Colonies with regard to
the character of Sir Eardley Wilmot which was per-
fectly satisfactory.
Lord LINCOLN wished to know what course would
be taken with reference to the other notices on the
paper, if hii lion. Friend took precedence himself.
The SPEAKER was understood to say, that if the
Hon. Member for Birmingham should have the prece-
dence after the Hon. Gentleman concluded his motion.
he should call upon the Noble Loid to bring forward his.
Mr. SPOONER was about to proceed, when
Mr. HUME rose to protest against his doing so. If
he wanted any reason why this discussion should be
postponed, it would be found in what had occurred to-
day.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM perceived great difficulty in
&parting from the established rule. It appeared to
him that on Thursday next would be the opportunity,
when the question of transportation would be brought
.
before the House by the Right Hon. Gentleman, for
making the explanation of the Hon. Gentleman.
Sir G. GREY thought that the suggestion of the
Right Hon. Gentleman was one which the Government
could not readily coincide in. It was expedient that the

business of the country should be proceeded with, and
the introduction of question% which did not bear a very
close affinity to the order of the day was calculated only
-0 delay and embarrass the proer.,ding., of the House.
H.. thought that these questions should be kept as much
distinct as possible.

LORDS' AMENDMENTS ON THE LANDED
PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL, AND THE
POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. GREENE appeared at the bar, and announced
that the House of Lords had agreed to a conference
with the Commons, which they had appointed to take
place in the Royal Gallery.
Lord John Russell, the Solicitor-General for Ireland,
with other Members of the Government, and accom-
panied by several Hon. Members, left the House to
attend the conference.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL shortly after Ppp - ared at
the bar, and reported that the deputation ap-
pointed by the House, had conferred with
a deputation of the House of Lords with respect to the
two Bills—the Poor Relief Ireland Bill, and the Landed
Property Ireland Bill, and had stated their reason tor
disagreeing with the Lords' amendments, and had left
the Bills and their reasons for disagreeing with their
Lordships.
_ _ _

Mr. HUNIE said he should persist in the course he
had stated to the House.

Lord J. RUSSELL rose to order. He very much
regretted that his Hon. Friend had not been allowed to
go on ; but at the same time he could not help
saying that if the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Hume) per-
sistedin maintaining his privilege that he would adopt
a very inconvenient course, because it would have the
effect of overruling the decision of the majority of that
House.

Mr. HUME was sorry to persist, but he felt it his duty
do so.

The subject then dropped.
COLONISATION (IRELAND).
The Earl of LINCOLN then rose to move that an
humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying
that she will take into her most gracious consideration
the means by which colonisation may be mule subsidiary
to other measures for the improvement of the social con-
dition of Ireland ; and by which, consistently with full
regard to the interests of the colonists themselves, the
comfort and prosperity of those who emigrate may be
effectually promoted. He said, when he reflected upon
tho impurtauce of the subject which be had undertaken
to bring forward, when he considered the extent of that
subject, whether in reference to the magnitude of the
interests involved, or the difficulties of its details—and
he did not feel this less when he bore in mind the many
occasions on which this subject had been brought before
the House, and the manner in which it had been brought

forward by some who were now no longer Members of
that House, and also by some now present—he felt that
he should stand much in need of the indulgence of the
Howe, but he trusted that no deficiency on his part
would be allowed to interfere with the object of the mo-

ion, and that it might obtain the d( liberate attention of

the Ilduse and the Government. He trusted, however,
that he should not be obliged to trespass at any length
upon their indulgence ; but the question was on 9. of such
paramount importance that he should be compelled to
relate a few simple facts, and a few plain principles, in
order to induce the House and the Government
to adopt the motion. And before he entered
upon the subject, he wished to assure Hon. Gentlemen
on both sides of the House, that he had not brought for-
ward the motion with any intention of bringing it for-
ward to bear upon party feeling or party principles.—
(Cheers.) He should endeavour to advocate the motion
so as to place no obstacle whatever in the way of either
side of the House giving it its support. He had
worded it in a way to prevent all misunderstanding.
was not his intention to bring forward any new plan of
colonisation for the relief of Ireland, nor was it his in-
tention to adhere strictly to any of the plans submitted
to the House and the public during the last twenty five
years. His simple object was to obtain an inquiry by
means of which a commission of able and competent men,
such as the Government telt justified in employing un-

paid, would be appointed. The great object Which he
desired to attain, was to ascertain how far this system of
colonisation was applicable in the present state of Ireland,
so as to benefit those who remained in the country. He
did not mean by this motion to encoutage that system
which had been characterised as " shovelling out
paupers," for, on the contrary, be believed that sooner
than adopt such a system, it would be better to take the
dreadful alternative, if, indeed, it were the only one, of
leaving them in their present condition to starve and perish.
The remedy was one which would have the same effiiet
as bleeding in the human frame, and was like that
remedy, if properly applied, likely to be beneficial in its
results. He would wish to consider what were the great
objects of the poor-law, and whether he considered it
were likely to effect those objects necessary for the entire
well-being of the country, and if not, what measures
could be adopted for that end ? He did not consider the
poor-law as calculated to reliev all the permanent des-
titution of the country ; but as the Noble Lord had x.aid,
as a stimulous to the employment of labour, and as a
source of giving an increased security to life and pro-
perty. Without that security, capital and enterprise
could never 11.)ar into that country. which would still
continue in the evil and vicious state of pauperism and

. .
crime. He thought that the poor-law could not accom -
plish all these objects. The House would excuse him if
he read one or two statements from that able document
the report of the Commissioners appointed in 1836 to
enquire into the condition of the poorer classes of
Ireland. The report stated that there was
not that division of labour in Ireland
which was to be found in Great Britain.
The supply of the agricultural labour was considerably
greater than the demand tor it. In Great Britain the
agricultural labourers did not form more than a fonrth,
while in Ireland they constituted a fourth of the whole
population. The consequence was, that in Ireland there
were 2,800,000 persons out of work in the course of the
year. So much for the statement of the Commissioners.
-Now, the net annual value of property rated to the poor
in Ireland was 13,404,4031.; but in addition to this ao:re
was the cess-rates, amounting ti 1,158,253 i., making the
total charge on property for the support of the poor
6,783,3271. It had been stated that the tax would not
exceed 2,000,000/, but he did not think that this state-
ment was justified by fact, because the Right Hou. Gen-
tleman opposite had not taken into account the
altered circumstances of the country. He should
consider that the potato was not now to be
reckoned upon in their calculations upon this matter. He
thought that no Hon. Gentleman could deny that the
amount of employment in Ireland must be diminished
by the present circumstances of the country. It seemed
to him that they would proceed from bad to worse in
Ireland unless some measure additional were introduced
to the aid of the Poor-law. He thought that unless some
adjuncts were introduced to assist the present law that
it could not be expected to work efficiently. He thought
no Hon. Gentleman would deny this it he investig iced
the syitem of rating that was proposed to be adopted.
It would tend to great evil if left to act by itself. He
thought that the Poor-law was well calculated to remove
many of the evils which afflicted Ireland, but he knew
that unaided it would have a very partial effect, and in
that event it would leave the country in the same state
as at present. The Government had passed measures
for the reclamation of waste lands, the sale of encum-
bered estates, and also had made many advances; all of
these were intended to assist the operation of the Poor-
law and would m'ost likely do so to some extent. The
Bill for the sale of encumbered estates would, he
thought, have the effect of so far reducing the
price of land as to cause many and serious
inconveniences to the landlords. With regard to the
money advances, he thought that a good deal of the
money would go to those proprietors who did not very
much require it, and that those proprietors in the west
and the north would despair of obtaining higher rent
for these improvements, and would not, therefor., avail
themselves of the loan. With regard to the grant for
piers and harbours, and other things. he had calculated
that even if 1,000,0001. of the 1,500,000/ were spent in
the first year, at the rate of 18/ per year, to each in-
dividual, it would only afford employment to 100,000
persons, who, with their families, representing
500,000 persons, would alone be saved from starvation
and destitution. Unless these data could be contro-
dieted, he was right in assuming that the poor-law
would be inadequate to relieve the whole of the desti-
tution now in Ireland. He then came to the considera-
tion of how tar the system of colonisation would tend to
aid and carry out its operations. He apprehended that
the proper cultivation of land in Ireland could not take
place as long as the present practice of minute sub-
divisions of land existed. The existence of these sub

divisions in enormous quantities was proved by the re-
turn of the census of the year 1841. The Noble
Lord then referred to documents proving, the
existence of a great number of small holdings
of the rent of from 11. to 41. in the barony of Farney.
He would ask the House, how was it possible that the
improvement of the cultivation of the soil could be
brought about under such a system as
.that ? He had
an opportunity last autumn of visiting in Ireland the
estate of the Secretary, for Foreign Affairs. He found
that great attention had been bestowed upon it, and yet
still he found, from inquiries upon that estate and in the
parish, that the estate contained 16,410 acres, the popu-
lation was 8,750, and the annual value 5,2381., and yet
with that population the land under corn cultivation last
year only amounted to 432 acres. He would ask whether
any influx of capital could remedy the state of things
existing in Ireland, without some alteration in such a
system ? It must, however, be borne in mind, that the
improved husbandry of a country necessarily decreased
the quantity of labour employed, for the proportion of
agricultural labourers employed 2
in Ireland was as 5 to
employed in England. That instance would be suffi-
cient to show that this assumption was correct. That
would be remedied by emigration, and he was the other
day told by a landlord, that having offered to remove
1,000 persons from his estate to the colonies, 2,000 moree
applied to be removed also. The opinion of Sir R.
Keane had been quoted to show that Ireland was
capable of containing a population of more than double
that which now existed, he was not disposed
.to deny
that it must necessarily be done by an improve-
ment in the social condition of Ireland, and the opening
of mines and manufactures. In order to effect that, a
temporary reduction of the population was necessary,
and the void thus created would very soon
oo
1.
abaet.
jofirli edup
would
be to remove the bone and.
They had been told that the of
o
from
at hsseutchhvecg
however
ewva,en
rad,
strength of the land, away f
would not be the case, for there
population quite sufficient to bear the largest reduction
that could be brought about
iey under this system. The
Committee of 1830 stated that
gration was peculiarly adapted they thought tremovehoug hmtantyh that
fem i-
the-
pressing evils which then existed
in Ireland. Again, he
would only quote one more sentence, which should be
c
from Lord De Rous's
e system
commission.
fmmtssion. (Tbe Noble Lord
went on to read a passage r om the f report,emigration
ing
thesom
the adoption of
relief of Ireland.) In the second report of the Com.
mittee, appointed a short time ago, to ,of
the ,
state of Ireland, he found a simiar recommendation

as well as an appeal to the landlords of Ireland to re
encouragement and assistance to those who are anxtotte
to emigrate. He was atraid he had wea, led the House
wirh going so much into details but he thought he bad
said sufficient to make out a case for enquiry. Equal
was all he asked for. He had no new plan or prejeet
of colonisation to propo-e: but he might at the saMe.
time be permitted to recapitulate the various 01
plan s
colonisation which had been recently brought before the
House. A short while ago the Hon. Member for Gates'
head advocated the adoption of home colonisation, and
support of his plan pointed to the flourishing condition
South Australia. And well the Hon. Gentleman might
refer to that colony, for only a little while ago it was a
barren, unpopulated tract of land, while now it lot
well cultivated and inhabited by an industrious body off
colonists. At the present time, however, upwardeaa
1100 per month were emigrating to that colony, f
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the rates of passage were very heavy, and be there
ore
did not think the Australian colonies could be aPPlied▪ d
the purpose he had in view. The same observation wow
apply to New Zealand, but he was told that there le '
ads
a colony peculiarly adapted to the purpose. $e alio
to South Africa. where there were upwards of six talso
lions of fertile, though unoccupied land. And was
told that the colony abounded in iron„stone, and o
minerals. On the other hand, there were their Nerr.,
American colonies open to them. Canada, boweT,
affi riled them a proof of the utility of colonisation..
population had latterly increased in an exceedinglf hurt
ratio, while there had been equal increase in the amore
of its exports. In 1835, only twelve years agog :;i0
quantity of flour exported was only 35,000 barrels, 101.4
in 1846 it amounted to 800,000 barrels. Besides barrels,,
imports amounted annually to upwards of nine tnilhc.'_„,
Now with regard to the different plans of colonisatleol,
which had been propounded, there was first the pho
Mr. Gibbon Wakefield, which might be called :$ll5,
supporting system of emigration ; but he did not the
this system was applicable to Canada, because t
land was cheap, while there were ample ePPertlhen
and temptations for removal to the United States' oly
there was the plan of Colonel Torrens, but that w 55
a mod'fication of Mr. G. Wakefield's plan. There waN;.;
the plan proposed by Mr. Sullivan and Dlr. GU".,;f
and the one proposed by the Noble Lord the Seat:W. $
for the Colonies, all of which would form an ample seglai
for enquiry. There was, too, another planerece„Jor
propounded in a pamphlet by Mr. Brodigan, a' e-w'oges
ing the emigrant on the land for a time atell,;,,d at
and allowing him to become the possessor of tee 17,10.
the expiration of the period. Perhaps, without 11„-isa,
ing the rule he had laid down of proposing no oewilrooto
he might be allowed to direct the attention of the
to one which had not yet been brought before thegy
lic. It must be within the knowledge of the 11°11. ie.,
tleiman, the Under Secretary of State for the T:7O e 4
and he had no doubt, notwithstanding the Pre": the
other affairs upon the time and memoryf that
Noble Lord at the head of Government' ebec,
a railroad had been projected from Canada to d
passing through the provinces of Nova Scotia a'
010 of
Brunswick. He looked upon this undertaking sad cote•
great national importance, both in a political ee a t 00•
mercial point of view. It could be constructed at and it
Berate expense, land being cheap in the colonP, ted,
would effect the object Mr. Pitt always conteroP'e,.ao.
10
uniting all the North American colonies beloni,l, otoo,
this country. The construction of this railrearn of
would afford facilities for carrying out all „Pfotir the
emigration, because it would afford eniploYale,_n" 6)141,
emigrants immediate) on their reaching the of
al
He looked upon this undertaking, therefore, as "'off
the utmost importance to the colonies and to this °w hole
He knew there were many Hon. Members with „foal'
he might differ upon this point. He tell that the ty
est possible good would result to the commerce e.
opt.
coloeies of this country by a system of coleelsithoat
These benefits, could not, however, be obtained W_ Go.
a large outlay of capital. He did not propose In O.
vernment grants or loans for this purpoie 8 with
amount required would be but small in comp °f the
the sum annually required to support the Iv'rn diffr
two countries. The amount of expense had hense from
rently stated by various persons at SIMS ran old, that
41. to 251. ; but he might, perhaps, be t 2. nosh
if any slim should be spent, it would ule cow.
better to spend that money in Ireland than in t,ehought
vies. He did not agree with that opinion, hove : and to
impr,sala of
a system of colonisation would tend toot' the Beet elevate the moral and social condition
Ireland. He had seen it stated, that any estella...,„iv •
of
nisation was impossible, because an adequate.securirag he
food could not be found in Canada. The ebi ons 1/120
did not think would have any weight with Pea° _molly
were aware that the surplus corn of Caned
might be
amounted to upwards of 2,000,000 barrels.
be
to
said too, that sufficient freights could not '''
This Wall
carry out a system of extended colon
for ared that
a statement without foundation, - e
in the year 1846 thee were 1,585 ships,
of 605,253 tons, which left this eountry ballast a, A•
ct,
year, this quantity would under the Passenger
allowing three passengers to every five tons, oftili
accommodation to 363,000 emigrants. Then it hind
that the Irish people of all others made the worst Ifi•scla
of emigrants ; this was, however, refuted by the fro
of the case, and the immense remittances sent frog
with a tonnage
in
America towards the relief of their friends in Ireil-to
was a most satisfactory answer to the charge n
brought against them. He did not believe that thereAo
was that difference in the character of the Celt and
,ss,
Saxon which some persons would endeavour to make Ow
tl •
There was nothing in the character of the Celt to
serve the character of indolence which had been so li
rally bestowed upon them. These opinions did n
ot
exist in the colonies with regard to the Irish celoso,'
themselves, and he could not name a higher authot
upon this subject than Chief Justice Robinson, As
stated that the Irish were orderly and loyal, and Sit
most industrious of the colonists of that province. 'is./
Wilmot Horton also bore the highest testiteet;
to the loyal land patriotic gallantry of ie.
Irish colonists. Captain Hall also corroborate" to,
honourable testimony borne by the former Gentiepol
It had been said, also, that colonisation from ire roe
would be confined to the lowest classes, he did not agtho
with that opinion, and it was his firm opinion therste
educated and middle classes of Ireland would emignreso
in large numbers. The opinions of the Canadian,: 0
were very much divided upon the plan of emigra"°. 'she
proposed by Mr. Godley, and he bad no doubt thn
scissors had been lately very industriously einehleijorti
those papers in the colonial office. The Noble JO
then read several extracts from a number of Cl%Ol
papers, expressing an opinion favourable to an ext;
system of colonisation. Mr. Sullivan, too, in as
dress, at the Mechanics Institute of Toronto, woe.
highly in favour of a most extensive o'l.ooo
tion, if properly conducted. There W 55 :grant'
said that gentleman, for 500,000 0310105
whose arrival would not prevent that Oa
from being still an exporting country, although its
not be doubted that the best market for Canada ; at
home markets. He would again assure the Haut, feel'
he brought forward the motion without any Per, 1,,d0.
ing, and he hoped that he had abstained from ic";etiott
ihneg anyhad saeonttimbre:utgwhhticfharwivaasrodbjaenctyiopniaabul,e to all,6ed that
of the House.—(Hear, hear.) He might be We` the
eimmencementhaoofulandridsebrsepeetgcoh, stated that it twileee' tttlicephi°
intention so to do but he only brow ht forward
at
Commissionof ot ers,
should
which woultlha
pose of postponing..s
the me you.
brought the subject before the House not with any fay
of confidence •in the Colonial -office would thie bi
sure produce false e ce, nor rged
ctations, as had been urd at the
those who objected to the plan. The Noble Lo dote
head of the Colon. f the j'
as favourably
Colonial-office
Member for Limerick,someon the motion 0 ,„d o
colonisation as applicable years past, had p 01041003,
and if it should to the present state 0f3.1.0 012
turn out that emigration was goi -ld 001
public
be t. d
sa e with such 9
a statement, unless it were Sa
1,
factorily proved. Nor did he bel• t sec. • 0
teve tha rape
en
it did, be ecouldu not '
qeiry would impede the
admit, that
at the present moment, bucoturs: °WO elndligfra
eaonnt sici deirpaeffanrematct
eettadilk: neat nahogdafe rnecoa a stl eef'oe::toh:n sp
ail
0°1•:,
dEr
upon such a fact, as an evil of such extensive magnit°,;l6l
as some gentlemen were disposed to view it. He ate
now apologise to the House for the length of time Wii,t,"
he had detained it, and should thank the House for 711,
attention which had been rendered to his arge°2ooo
He, therefore, begged to place upon record his rertbe
for enforcing this subject upon the attentillioioo
Government, convinced, as he was, that J-ouatri,
system would lead materially to benefit the mitte,
and afford the most permanent relief to the Cal
which oppressed her.
„,t0 disc
Mr. HAWES said that he was quite disposed yord
cuss the question in the spirit in which the Soblesitioo
introduced it. But he considered that the Prt dig
was not of so beneficial a character as he -- Wiw
posed to look upon it. The Noble wola
should remember that the very class whieh,„oiself
take advantage of a system of emigration vrasiin Ilea
that class which it would be desirable to retelfloo
land. The Noble Lord did not give any °Pie- aotiy-
o wfouthlde
hlalvoeusead,•
any of the plans which he had brought under th,eho hiej
v olicea t
eddi d
Mr.
G understand,od les hpol wa fre ro.
2:wireep:
here say that the new system of colonisation oese.,
completely from the old sy stem. FornierlY frith
schemes were undertaken by a number of publio srPoraeo
persons, and they did not ever apply to the Ge'reapted!,
for assistance, but at the present day no one attee
scheme of colonisation unless large grants
by the Government. which if they wer
exposed the Government to great odium. If tid itael
any step taken to favour emigration, it vrou,.ch 00. A
diately check the voluntary emigration v 113,0070
flowed on unimpeded. And if any sum wee of I"
for such a purpose, there were other portira, to JO'
United Kingdom who would be equally entitleu see'
fitir r
mand that they should not be excluded from a....„,r0v
portion.—(Hear, hear.) But whilst these 7:011
means of colonisation bad been going on, ;think wilh
well to turn to the colonies themselves, IMO WI
were
ere
had taken place since they came into operation• „ow
regard to the Australian colonies—in 1835 080170;
tion was 102,949, and in 1845 it was 295,9.,n0l d
imports to them in the former year sra°"rtshe,ttir,
1,745,000/.,and in the latter 1,990,000/. The OP° A ta':
Did Dot ..-taitee
respectively 1,004,0002 and 2,175,0001. dually 00
show the great improvement that bad gra
re woe a
place? He could assure the Noble Lord th.ead in °if
where. t_tif, the!!
want of employment when the labourer arlivand coat/
ey
Australias. They got immediate employmee. tt sad
care was taken by method and system that the
should be distributed over the country
most required, and where it was most Pree_tforred
labour would be absorbed. The Noble Lord ,it on
tbad.., ti
1
received very unfavourably throughout _ the ea
Mr. Godley's plan, but he could assure cos p
op.
would have the effect of imposing a tax ttPeLt conen,
of Ireland, which could be ill borne by tn.. own
This plan would take away nine millions of tf.` and
with two millions of the able-bodied la
aesvveient practicalwthaiesf
did not think that the scheme would be t;
tageous as the promoter of it antlow"