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tion—a doctrine against which all in that House had so
frequently protested.
Mr. G. PALMER expllincd.
Mr. DARBY suggested that the clause should be
withdrawn.

Mr. FOX NI AULE would not strike the clause out,
but would introduce another clause, regulating the pro-
portion of the contributions.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said if the Commissioners
had not the power of regulating the proportion of the
contributions, they would be obliged to come to Parlia-
ment again to regulate the contributions.
Lord STANLEY objected to entrusting the Commis-
sionors with the power of hying down the principle de-
termining the proportion of the contributions. The
principle should Le laid down by law, and the Commis-
sioners might then apply the principle, and unle3s the
Noble Lord would consent to some such provision, he
should feel very much inclined to vote fur the rejection
of the clause. _

Lcrd J. RUSSELL had no objection to the introduc-
tion of words to that effect.
Mr. TO WNLE Y PARKER begged to ask the Noble
Lord whether this clause had not been made with reference
to the perpetuity of the Poor-law Commissioners ?,
Lcrd JOHN RUSSELL said not to his knowledge.
The clause as amended was then agreed to.
Clause 16 was then agreed to.
On clause 17 being proposed,
Mr. GROTE proposed an amendment, the object of
which was to invest the Commissioners, under the same
restrieti.ms as were contained in the 10th clause, with the
power of combieing the three unions of the City of Lon-
don for the special purpose of providing a sepa.ate union
for the re;ief and the setting to work if casual and desti-
tute poor. The Hon. Member said that in the City of
London, ni hin the walls, there was no workhouse. It wns
customary to give one shilling to those who tpplied for re-
lief. The applications were numerous,and numbers of those
who received relief affidavits, applied for admission to
the East London and West London workhouses. 245
prisoners had claimed and received admission into the
West London workhouse within a single week, consisting
chiefly of very disorderly and notorious characters. Tha
object of his proposal was to remove, as far as possible,
the evils which attached to such a system.

Colonel SIBTHORP opposed, and moved that the
clause be expunged.
Mr. B. WOOD said there were other parishes than
those in the city of London which would like the provision
moved by the Hon. Member for London.
After a long conversation rebpcetiog the establishment
of a penal workhouse for lewd women.
General JOHNSON said after we had bridewells,
houses of correction, &c., he certainly would vote against
the clause.

Mr. GROTE said the clause did not provide for any
means of coercion. The question was merely whether
those poor creatures should have the power of corrupting
the other inmates of the workhouie.

Colonel SIBT HORP said the clause was so arbitrary
that he should certainly vote against it.
On the question that the clause, as amended, stand
part of the Bill, the House divided, when there appeared—
In f tvour of the clause
Against it
_ _ _

Majority

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On clause 18. being proposed,
Mr. FIE LDEN moved that the Chairman do report
progress; upon which, after a short conversation, the
Hawse divh!ed—
For the motion lB
Against it
Nli,jority against the motion 9l
On our return to the gallery,
Lord G. SOMERSET said that he had several im-
portant amendments t,) propose to the next clause.
A short conversation ensued, during which several Mem-
hus stated that they had amendments to propose, and ob-
jected to [roceedi,g further with the Bill that evening.
Lord J. RUSSELL said teat such being the case, he
would postpone the clause.
The House then resumed, the Chairman reported pro-
gresQ, and obtained leave to sit again on Thursday.
On the motion of Mr. FOX MAULE the Population

Bill went through Committee.
Mr. FOX MAULE moved for lelve to bring in a Bill
fir i egulating the employment of children in silk factories.
The other Orders of the Day were thei disposed of,
and the House adjourned at Half-pa t Twelve.