The Sun.
London, England, 1841-11-08 00:00:00

MORNING SUN

lAMENT.

HOUSES OF VARL

ON.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE St,
Sin shalt feel grateful by your pertnitting we
publicly and solemnly to deny the truth of the allega-
tions made against me at the meeting of Friday, and 0
s'atsid in the Report to be as follows: •
Ist, I had prevented nien Ist, I never refused anY
from paying the last rites ofmymen,andnever hesitt:
to their deceased relatives. ed in readily giving perm'''.
• ~
. .
•
night or threTi weeks.
sion
• told him I COu f
of the masons
to
on anbsP(e), Pn
(sule dt° :31
ford
wished
of me
or
his job open Skt 4qll,gvfen
him. came beak iii.{ ed
days—went
continued
2d, I had locked up a 2d, lam sure all 011
pump, to preverit men who brother foremen here, artd,
were teetotallers having Mr. Wardle, the prineiPsl
access thereto.. • ; clerk, will bear witness that
I ne‘roerr
this is untrue.
locked up any purnP,,,,n
edentto to wort;,
swooorko,tii atnhae
to
was any complaint maim-
, .
3d, I had behaved bru- 3d; A. man after a lmee
sender
tally in refusing a man accident, employed
tobe
employment who was re- me,applied again idta
covering from an accident. placed to work. I found
unable to undertake.
ee.i,
ployment CO laborious, stick.
still obliged to
I recommen4e4.,4lls4sF 011
cation to ISl:esrshter.V:
and Peto for ilig.:no
they appointed him 29
kor
be,lregr
ofon tnhoenirrdt atlillyo bmernic
and where he is still.ear
ployed.
I should also say their charges against me were breaiii,
after the strike, ir. a letter addressed to the Earl of ia"
eoln, and sent by him to Messrs, Grissell and Feto, at.,
who, so far from refusing to look into the matter, in!tt
tuted a most searching inquiry, and which extended ed
their other agents here, and they were fully eolivilircoese
that the bitter persecution of me by the LiPiun a" be
from my bringinc, before them the limitation of t
amount of labour the Unionists, and their fininglll.°.°
who did more than the prescribed quantity.
ever ea
The good workmen under me know well I n
"plained of them. The letter to my employers was stated;
~
" They, the masons, would not return until I olbt
missed, as I required more from them than they.
a fair day's work."
I always required what I did believe to be $ 4tiret
day's work, and shall always do so, while 1.4 Ott
tained by' Messrs. Grissell and Peto ; but I
submit myself to a system which levels the goouthe
with the idle and bad; and to my withdrawal fronl,
Union with this feeling, I am indebted for all thOr
tempts to ruin me with my employers, and destrof ,„,,
character with the public. •
I am, Sir, your obedient, humble servant,
November 6, 1811.
GEORGE ALL .614/*
THE MASONS and the'' DlSPArrefl‘

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUiv• last
cisY 0
Sts,—Finding in the Weekly Dispatch of Sun /itch,
an article headed " The Masons and the PtsP, the,
wherein it is stated that the masons have come `."O of
formidable resolution of discouraging the circa to the
their paper, on account of its being an enemy t°, to
working classes,—iii answer to this we beg le,°,stee
state, that it was at the meeting of Trades Delebn.hea
held at the Craven's Head, Drury-lane, Oct. 27,he, pis.
that resolution was passed, on the ground that that t the
patch is not the friend of the working man ; so t‘ rob
Editor of that paper will perceive it is not the lv d
that
or froth of the masons," as he calls it, that passe
resolution. . ' b
'as°
The Dispatch feels very indignant at being Put 1„ oell
bad company.as the Times, and conceives 0°,44 csa
must be sadly dosed with ignorance or stupidity t"" it is
class the Dispatch with that paper ; inasmuch asocero-
violently opposed to. the Times upon all subjects c°Gjebit ,
ing the_ working classes, except one." So is the their
Morning Chronwle, and others of the same staal,-;oosti'
are all opposed to the Times, but that does o°t si,- or
tute them the friends of the working classes. 1, under!
position to the Times,. we believe,-is perfectly ,ell under!
thl
stood by the thinking part of the working men; and
tch SY,
also understand that that does not prove the Disl)a '
be their friend. ~ fella
The Dispatch may rest assured, whenever it 1 se, I
amongst bad company, and acting a dishonest P , all
will be classed along with the rest of that coloPei/plte'n6e4.
an open and avowed enemy, is better than a P.":istoltet
but deceitful friend. The Dispatch makes gi Illb, e to'
when it asserts that we say it refused to insert tee
communications sent to it by us—the fact of their P.' an .
been inserted, is sufficient tnprove to the contrary:4s,o
the reason we sent nothing more for insertion'
swweicb,
consequence of its attacks and misrepresentatietlto 011
followed those it did insert. And we be n-tt 00/'
its attention to its remarks following our le,,,tte.r.sell as"
tober 10, in adverting to that part of Messrs.tirl'ioxpro
Pete s, where they allege that, " the real man figs
1 which we complain of is, that Allen paid a n
hi.
shillings, being the amount of a fine imposed or:. that
for working too fast, and that there is a one act
masters should pay the same wages to a bad as tyors
workman, as also a compact to prevent any up 11
taking task work." The Dispatch follows 01%000
saying, " This is a grave matter, which the "7eles;
ought to answer." If the Dispatch had been ss ,00
trious in its attention to our answers to those g11),-; ot°
scandalous falsehoods as it has been in its atte,ll,;;.c'e sr
those falsehoods, it would have known that we aoj, thl
swered them. We have challenged them threarr-ort
medium of some of the daily journals to come le_hrons
and prove those charges, but they have invariablY .brans
back. In the same article the Dispatch asks " Whiros,, be;
a tailor who can earn 2/ a week be restricted to
_..01.0 ?
cause a majority of his brethren can earn n° 1;:i JrO;
Now the direct inference which the public wollioptes,
from these remarks, would be that we have Pre vibieD
individuals from making the best of their abilities, 0 the
is as untrue as it is ridiculous. In their remarktshee pis.
3d October, in speaking of the conduct of Allet'',„;stsl'e.,fl
patch says, that " necessary severity is often ',-„notyt
for tyranny." We beg to submit a few acts of Y.:00111.)18
nay of cruelty, to the consideration of all revesiti'.
men, and ask if they can be considered necessarY.s,.. tel I
Can it be considered necessary severity- ';`:i.ottli,
man, after having his leg broken, and upon lu'a„,-4
to work, that he (Allen) did not want any sucb .
hobbling fellows as him there ?ice's,
a
Can it be considered necessary severity to {ellick t
who was absent a few days in consequence optsoy illi
upon his return that he (Allen) did not Ws
ri stD°
sound men there. M- er
Can it be considered necessary severity to tell a, see 1',,,
had been to close the dying eyes of his wife., all' that
"
respectably interred, upon his return to Ivor"'
might go back and die with her, and be d—d?
~ t ssi
Can it be considered necessary severity to Pr,ll-hnis dfj
man from paying the last tribute of. respetci, 070
ceased parent, by seeing her respectably burle. such e
God, what is to become of British mechanics if erg
. •sev .ing
of atrocity as these are to be considered necessary w 0
Andwill the Dispatch • insist upon being the re ,1
man's friend, and yet tell us if we succeed in thecter s',
of this man from his situation, which his char,9, ,01iq,,,
disposition unfit him to fill, " that it will be tavern:lf 3t
the duty, of employers to treat their workmen sewee;tibi,.
The Dispatch also states in an article of las E loa i;,,
it " should be deserting the canae-Of the Pe°reolpsbtio
traying that of the working classes most 00 0, •
did it not denounce certain proceedings in prliri,
part of the masons, which are vile, uniaSt iedaser-
ciple, and most powerfully injurious to 011.„.' itchier'
ous poptilation of every degree." Wh).-- p'-'prt:ceile
taro proceedings" -L-- why not name . th9s." ol or
ings which would - justify the denunciatilu.ffer 04.
Dispatch? Is it because we have refused to suitnity_d
'?
feelings to' be outraged by such acts of i°l„),-Touect"te
those we have just named that we are to be ot'teet e°„t
If so we can treat all such denunciations wit" bo;„,-
tempt they justly merit. and we believe es'erlticl=a°ll,
man will do the same. The Dispatch cord ial if theilier
ledges the right of combination, and argues leis bret.nst
treatment of an individual is systematic, let,,eis 15 ) oft
workmen join him and make a strike." , etc h 1103
what we have done ; the advice of the VisP taut 1-nt,l
that subject is very good, but rather late. it wove
ether statements the Dispatch has Made
al d 0 °t be •
have the public believe we have forced ~, an 4I i,li
body. of men in some other part of the cou'it'clo'rl;, "'t to
longing to some other trade, to leave Owir t`e, " bug! or
will be seen from its own words, 'where it its ~opuic-eOO
say that because one or more musters are t)nder titt3
unkind in any ' trade, that the worktnen tieror, -i: ft
air:
js .(0:111134'
.i.
masters that are indulgent, kind, and gin ,otor, ye,
sptirieckee, toof thfeolinjury n
do f their
absurdity,em ploye r 0 r ben ei - fld e -.0,
villany, - which shall never be defended IV no't sh°bot
nor advocated nor defended by us. But it hae,..tious',,,ies
where this has been done ; it makes atiier trP- 0
gives no proof that we have interfered witi,,l e„ - This rat
or with employers, " a hundred miles on. , aCO it
entirely a new feature in this caisneg—ratlistlidets'eti; s's'll
of its own manufacture, which the Times' t in ; :lb'
is, we believe, would not bear it °lt the )9100
atopopwlearcewthhinish
isstilnlotmore forcibly - before .eeinse'.e,
lie, the -Dispatch says, " the masons claim forfv, eayie
church, medical or legalpopsrsoefsessesdionbs3; otrhehleiititot;efrtelle'rr
mercantile Classes," inasmuch as when one expect e of.
officer is .strtick ,against;'the strikers do not
~//,'plititt, bi
trades. to strike that - have nothing to cui.ollow"e%,
Neither du we expect our example to be r, orb the
ether trades who have nothing to complain 01 e wi 114
tend to other employers. We entirely ; agrelicy,
.P 0
Dispatch- that honesty is the best • f
:utt, • 1004%
many people find this out when it is t,o°, the Is
to our finding that the Dispatch is right las ' t„,t ellet„,
months, if the Dispatch can persuade ti,_t_nr; seyeAJle
white, or that those acts of cruelty are neciesis;trly, ).tho,
we will be convinced it is right itfutrut it i 5 e,,
Dispatch winds up by again repeating Nor .no.elas, in
" warm though discerning friend a the woreiritori°tlsall
andselr eve may
but
tt
as
sdwd
we do
nthoetreexipseientAtt ogonii,ore:hotcobe..ebst;
stinking fish, w_________. think the. working
scribe judges
ourselves
rsistieszl extent
vn eesd th
on behalf
oubfdefiroiaectitnia:tiss; in
tti(iif te
joo body,tlte%erlets
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MAGNUM DONUM A PPLEeSpra:f7tivi::,b-S'ett:e:Soo. or 7 .1-1;:111-14:.
of Stowey Farm, in the Apilari°sh
recently gathered from an espalier in his gea_rstico'd rOtio,
pies, three of which weighed 31bs., and ill '_'..l_ boriot.
the nose and stem 131 inches each, and in
od fts gre*
girth 23/ inches ; they are moreover as .5.°