The Sun.
London, England, 1852-11-17 00:00:00

COUNTY POLLING.

On the motion of Lord R. GROSVENOR for leave
to bring in a Bill for restricting the polling at county
elections to one day,
Mr. R. PALMER said he was of opinion that the
motion of the Noble Lord would be attended with great
inconvenience.
Mr. HI7ME felt convinced that no difficulty ought to
exist ; and he was glad that the Noble Lord had brought
the subject forward.
Mr. WALPOLE said that the motion before the
House was whether the Noble Lord should have leave
simply to bring in a Bill. As a similar Bill nearly
reached a third reading• last' Session, it would be unfair
to oppose that motion ; but in giving their assent to
it, he hoped the Noble Lord would not suppose that
the Government approved of the whole provisions con-
tained in the measure.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
PUBLIC PETITIONS.

On the motion of Mr. THORNILY, the Conimittee
on Public Petitions was reappointed 'as follows :—Mr.
Thornely, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Captain Jones, Mr.
Brotherton, Lord Alfred Hervey, Mr. Scott, Mr. Bon-
ham-Carter, 11r. Duncan, ''Mr. Adderley, Mr. Owen
Stanley, Mr. Whitmore, Mr. Portal, Mr. Thicknesse,
Mr. Monsell, and Mr. hitbread.
SEAM TO AUSTRALIA.

Mr. DIVETT moved for copies of all correspondence
between 'the Admiralty and Mr. Scott Russell, on; the
subject of, and statemeilt of, the ultimate terms and con-
di-tic:mil:A.-the shie effected tb the latter of her kajelty's
screw steamer Oreenock, since sold to the Royal Austra-
lian Steam-ship Company under the new name of Mel-
bourne.; and report of the Surveyor of the Admiralty on
the tate of this ship, also of any special one which may
have been, made immediately previous to her departure
with her Majesty's mails for the Australian colonies.—
Agreed to. -
CONSISTORY COURT OF ROCHESTER.

Sir B. HALL moved for a return from the Rev.
Walker King and the Rev. George King, Registrars of
the Consistory Court of Rochester, setting forth the
names of all persons who have been appointed or nomi-
nated to any office, or who hold any office in the Con-
sistory Court of Rochester, and specifying other matters
connected with• the appointments.
After a few words from Mr. Secretary WALPOLE,
who said he had no objection to the return, the motion
was agreed to.

THE LEICESTER MAIL.
Mr. FREWEN moved that the Postmaster-General be
requested to order that the day mail between London and
Leicester should be conveyed by way of Peterborough,
Stamford, and Melton Mowbray, until the line of railway
between Leicester, and Rugby (which has been stopped
-in consequence of the injury done to it, caused by the
• late heavy rains) be re-opened.
The SPEAKER said the House had no power to in-
terfere with the Postmaster-General in the manner pro-
posed.
Mr. FREWEN said he then would amend his motion
so as to make it declare that it was the opinion of the
liouse that the mail ought to be carried by the route
specified.
Mr. HAMILTON, however, resisted the motion, and
it was ultimately withdrawn.
INDIAN TERRITORIES.

Mr. HERRIEg moved that the Select Committee on
Indian Territories do consist of 31 members, viz. :—Mr.
Herrias, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord John
Russell, Mr. Baring, Sir Charles Wood, Mr. Baillie, Mr.
Gladstone, Mr. Newdegate, Mr. Johnston, Sir Jamas
Grabam, llr. Alderman Thompson, Sir Wm. Moles-
worth, Sir R. Inglis, Viscount Jocelyn, Mr. Cobden,
Mr. Hardinge,. Mr. Milner Gibson, Mr. Mangles,
Sir James Hogg, Mr. Hume, Mr. Bankes, Mr. Vernon
Smith, Mr. Robert Hildyard, Mr. J. Nelson, Mr.
Spooner' Mr. KeogbgMr. Macaulay, Lord Stanley, Mr.
Robert Clive, Mr. Edward Allice, Viscount Palmer-
ston.

After a brief discussion, in which Sir W. Willoughby,
Mr. Macgregor, and Mr. Hume took part, the motion
was agreed to.
EXPENSES OF THE DUKE'S FUNERAL.

On the Order of the Day being read for going into com-
mittee of supply,
Mr. HUME said, with regard to the expenses to be
incurred in the funeral of the Duke of Wellington, he
thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer ought to lay
some estimate on the table of the House. He found that
such an estimate had been laid on the table by Mr. Van-
sittart, in the case of the public funerals of Lord Nelson
and Mr. Pitt. The House was now sitting, and he sub-
mitted they ought to have such an estimate before them
with respect to the funeral of the Duke of Wellington.
He was not desirous of throwing any obstacles in the
way of the funeral, but he asked for such an estimate
with the view of disabusing the public of the extravagant
opinions which had been formed as to the expenditure to
be incurred. He did think the department to which the
duty of arranging the funeral had been entrusted should
have laid on the table an estimate approximating at least
the expense. (Hear, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
had forgotten the hint thrown out the other night on
this subject by the Hon. Gentleman who asked the ques-
tion, but the fact was, the pressure of circumstance con-
nected with the solemnities had been so great that it
was quite impossible to prepare an estimate. Every
shilling expended would, however, be accounted for
hereafter. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME said there was neglect in some quarter.
The. CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
the Honourable Member for Montrose had misconstrued
the observation he had made. He (the Chancellor of
the Exchequer) said from the pressure of circumstances
at the present moment it was impossible for him to lay
on the table an estimate of the expenditure.
Lord DUDLEY STUART thought the Chancellor
of the Exchequer had made a most extraordinary state-
ment in refusing to comply with the suggestion of the
Hon. Member for Montrose—(oh, oh)—that an estimate
of the expense of the funeral should be laid on the-table.
He believed the country was unanimous in wishing by
every possible means to 'testify respect for the memory
of that great and illustrious man—the Duke of
Wellington ; but he did not think that respect would
have been in any degree diminished if the consti-
tutional course had been adopted of stating to that
House, which held the purse-strings of the country,
what would be the probable expense attending the so-
lemnity of Thursday.
Mr. S. CARTER--who, on rising, was received with
shouts of " Oh,' oh," and some laughter, from the Minis-
terial benches--said he protested against the doctrine of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man had delayed the funeral solemnity for more than two
months for the purpose of consulting Parliament, and was
not now prepared to say whether the expenses would be
10,0001. or 100,0001., or whether, as some people said,
they would amount to a quarter of a million. It seemed
a somewhat invidious and ungracious task to address the
House on that subject. (An ironical laugh.) But he
was bound to say he felt last night he had not done
his duty to his own conscience—(oh, not Eiving
stood up when the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer poured out, in well-turned periods,
his eulogium on the Duke of Wellington, and resisted
that which he (Mr. S. Carter) felt to be a national folly
—for he.could only term a national funeral a national
folly. (Oh, oh.) The Chancellor of the Exchequer said
the feelings of, a great people could only find vent in a
national pageant. If that was the only way in which
they could express their feelings, it would be far better
not to express them at all. He thought it would have been
much more to the credit of that House and of the country
if the money expended on that funeral had been applied
to some object of public usefubacen, rather than upon a
subject of prides and pomp. He thought it bore the 2
stamp of impiety for men to pay almost an idolatrous
worship to the clay of their fellow-worm. (Oh, oh.)
Themotion was then agreed to. ,
SUPPLY.

The House then resolved itself, into a Committee of
Supply.
The CHANCELLOR of the, EXCHEQUER, moved
that Mr. Wilson Patten take the chair of the committee.
Mr. HUME seconded the motion. - He was not
aware that there was a person better qualified for the
office than the lion. Gentleman, whose devotion to the
business of the Mouse had been unceasing ; and although
he regretted the 'loss of his Hon.: Friend, still he did not
consider that they could have a better chairman than
Mr. Wilson Patten.

-Mr. W. PATTEN (having taken the chair) read the
following extract from the Queen's Speech The ad-
vancement of the :fine arts and of
,practical science will
be readily recognised by you as worthy of the attention
of a great and enlightened nation. I have directed that
a 'comprehensive scheme shall be laid before you, having
in view the proinotion of these objects, towards which I
invite your aid and co-operation." The Hon. Gentle-
man then read the following from the address in reply :
—" To assure her Majesty that we could readily recog-
nise that the advancement of the fine arts and of prac-
tical science is worthy of a great and enlightened nation;
and to thank her Majesty for having given directions
that a comprehensive scheme shall be laid before usr hav-
ing in view the promotion of these objects, to which her
Majesty invites our aid and co-operation."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then
moved that a supply be granted to her Majesty.
Mr. HUME said that when the item came to be dis-
cussed it would be his duty to submit a plan very much
differing from that which had been suggested. He
thought there might be means of availing themselves of
public property already at their disposal, without ob-
taining that which belonged to others.
e OHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER promised
t come
ve notice of then day upon which the motion. would
Theonin.etion Was then agreed to.
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