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London, England, 1864-07-08 00:00:00

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A French. View of the Debate,

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The Journal des Debuts contains ft,o following
article on the firsts- -e - - - •t:m,
good joke of Charles XII. at the close of one of the
rash adventures of his life is well known. He had
rashly visited, alone and without attention, his
enemy, the Elector of Saxony, in the city of Dres-
den ; and the day after he had Veda put his head
into the mouth of the lion, which neglected to close
his jaws upon him, he learned that the Elector was
assembling his c3uncil to discuss with great so-
lemnity the unprecedented act of the King of
Sweden. ' You see,' said Charles to one of his in-
ti.ne.te friends, r they deliberate toaday on what
they ought to have done yesterday.' That pre-
cisely is the useful labour to which the English
Parliament is devoting itself. Opened by a motion
and a speech from Mr. Disraeli, to which Mr.
Gladstone replied, the discussion has been
continued by a speech from Mr. Cobden, of
which, at the time we write, we have only a
telegraphic summary, and it will by no means
terminate there. The more it is prolonged the
more uoes the English public persuade itself (and we
share ourselves in this respect the general impression
in London) that a debate conduwed in this fashion
will hardly shake the Cabinet of Lord Palmerston.
What Mr Disraeli and his friends turn into a crime
in Lord Palmerston are events, rather than acts of
his own ; the very things which they more especially
select to condemn his policy are the only things
whose happening or not happening absolutely did
not depend on him. Mr. Disraeli states with trium-
phant air that the Cabinet of the Tuileries refused
ro act with England. He then points out how Earl
Russell addressed to the German Powers extremely
violent despatches, and that that had not at all
frightened the Germans. Such, with all exactness,
is the substance of his speech. There is nothing
more indisputable than those two propositions of Mr.
Disraeli, The misfortune for him is that Lord Pal-
inerston disputes them less than any person. He has
put himselt in an attitude to admit their exactitude
with the most admirable serenity. Lord Palmer..
ston, no more than Mr. Disraeli, disposes of the
Cabinet of the Tuileries, and Mr. Disraeli, no more
than Lord Palmerston, could possess himself of the
secret of betting in motion any Power whatever allied
with England unless by accepting certain conditions
rigorously determined beforehand. The practical
point in the matter of offensive and defensive matters
is to know well what price the one contracting party
wishes to give, and what price the other exacts.
That, however, is the only" point with which Mr.
Disraeli has not concerned himself in discussing
the philosophic question of the maintenance, the
rupture, and the re-establishment of the Anglo-
French entente. It is very evident also that the
threats of Lord Palmerston have not terrified Ger-
many. Upon that point Lord Palmerston has been
amply instructed. Yes, he has threatened the Germ
mans with the utmost violence, and the Germans
have not been afraid. Only was it in his power to
cause terror with words ? And was he not
bound, notwithstanding, according to ail the usages
of policy, to try at first the might of words in order
to cause fear ? He has tried then what would be
the effect of terrible words; Mr. Disraeli would have
tried it like him. He has experienced, and, it is
admitted, very deeply, that in the actual condition
of the Germanic temperament circulars destined to
produce a shivering fit are wasted like a dull re■
active on the hard and crabbed subject whom it is
wished to treat by this process ; Mr. Disraeli would
have had the same experience. The question which
now presents itself is no more than that of seeking
what must be added to the thunder of those crush-
ing words when that thunder has died away power.
less in the echoes which it caused. "It is not
necessary to add anything to them at all, " ingeni-
ously exclaims Mr. Disraeli. Indeed, then, Mr.
Disraeli ought to be content, for Lord Palmerston
does not lend himself to add anything important to
the circulars of his colleague, Earl Russell. If the
debate does not take another turn in the sitting of
the House of Commons next Thursday, what a fine
result the adversaries of Lord Palmerston will have
achieved ! They'will have displayed their eloquence
in demonstrating that the English Cabinet could
only do what it has done, and certainly before they
took the trouble there were many people to whom
that proposition did not appear evident.

Usher, with a slight lead of ,Regina, made the running
into the bottom, where they closed and ran locked together
to the end, Usher winning after a punishing set-to by a
short head. Zora was a bad third.

The Chesterfield Stakes of 30 sovs each, 20 ft, for 2-yr-olds ;
colts Bst 101 b, and fillies, Bst 71b. ; the winner of the
July Stakes or any other stake amounting to 500 sovs to
carry 71b extra. Last half of B.M. 65 subs.

Mr Merry's Liddington, 9st 31b (including 71b extra)
(J. Adams) 1
Marquis of Hastings's The Duke, 9st 31b 71b extra)
(Fordham) 2
Mr Alexander's Cordelia, Bst 71b
Mr J. V. Laurence's Lisette, Bst 71b ...... (T. French) 4
The following also ran :—Rothomago, F.nny, Biondina,
Zephyr, and Haarlem.

Betting-5 to 4on The Duke, 7to 4 agst Liddington,
10 to 1 agst any other.
In consequence of the fractiousness of the favourite and
Haarlem the start was delayed some time. When the flag
was lowered Cordelia, with Biondina, Zephyr, and Rotho-
maga on the left, were the first away, followed on the ex-
treme right by Liddington, Lisette, and The Duke, the lot
running widely spread across the course Descending the
hill Biondina dropped back, and as they entered the bottom
Rothomago joined the beaten division. Liddington as they
reached the hill went to the front, and in a few strides after
he healed Mr Alexander's filly, who half way up was
passed by the favourite, who made an effort to get up as
they reached the Stand, bat failed, and wels beaten in a
second from the third ; two lengths separating the third and
fourth. Biondina was fifth, Zephyr sixth, and Rot homago
next. Haarlem and Fanny were the last two.

Handicap Plate of 50 sous, for 3-yr-olds and upwards.

New T.Y.C.
Mr H. Bird's Regina, 3 yrs, 6st 71b (J. Grimehaw) 1
Mr Price's Xuiullo, 5 yrs, Bst 31b (Perry) 2
Captain Machell's Tolurno, 5 yrs, 7st 31b (Woodhouse) 3
The following also ran :—Reindeer, Miss Armstrong,
Pupil, Lucky Star, Voluptas, Knave of Trumps, and Lady
Maud.

Betting-5 to 2 aget Lady Maud, Ito 1 agst Regina, and
7 to 1 each agst Vuluptas and Lucky Star.
Voluptas was the first off, but after running a few strides
he was headed by Regina, who came on slightly in advance
of Xurulla, Reindeer, Voluptas, and Tolurno into the bot-
tom, where the two first named drew away, and finished a
good race home, Regina winning cleverly at last by a
length; Xurullo, wh, ran out at the fiaish, defeating
Tolurno by four lengths for second ; Reindeer was fourth,
Vuluptas fitth, and Miss Armstrong next. Lady Maud,
who got badly off, was last, a long way in their rear.
Plate of £5O for 2-yr-olds and upwards. Weight fcr age,
with selling allowances. New T.Y.C.Mr J. Day's Hope, 2 yrs, (£10) sst 71b, (Phillips) 1
Captain Alaohell's.Coronet, aged (Lio), Bst 4lb
(Edwards) 2
Duke de Morny's Columbine, aged (X4O), sst 71b
3
Mr Naylor's Tall Grimstraw
Taller, 3 yrs (£4O), 7st 121 b ..(Challene)
r) 4
General Angerstein's Ninetta, 2 yrs (X 10), Sat 71b
(F. Martin) 5
Mr Carr's Lightning, 2
yrs (£4O), sst 71b
Betting-7 to 4 apt Tailor, i, to 2 aget Coronet, 4to 1
agst Hope, and 6 to 1 agst Columbine.
They ran nearly in a line to the brow of the hill, where
Tailor took a slight lead, followed by Coronet, Columbine,
and Hope into the bottom, Where the latter came out, and
won rather easily at last by a length and a half; two
lengths separated the second and third. Tailor was a bad
fourth.
The winner was claimed by Captain Machell.

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LATEST BETTING ON THE COURSE. m
THE DERBY.
7to 1 agat Liddington
(taken freely)
20 to 1 agat The Duke (offered)
40 to 1 agst Dilly Dally (taken)
40 to 1 agat Cby voitigeur_
Wizard's dam
40 to 1 agst Brown Dayrell
BETTING AT MIDNIGHT.
000DWOOD STAKES.
sto 1 agst Thalestris (taken)
Madcap Was struck out at 5.30 p.m. this day (Thursday)

cnw
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DERBY. _
40 to 1 agst Sing Charming (taken)
BETTING ON THE
COMING DIVISION.
200 Winning by 10.
,
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Daughter was likewise in
request Theri
keFs'is7herman to 1 being accepted as long as it
to thehere to-day was the
advance of Thalestr's position of first favourite for
BETTING
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featureT the
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thee ou Gd oboed
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was
request at 100 to S. There no betting on either the St.
Leger or Derby. Closing prices ;s

LIVERPOOL evp.
7to 1 The Clown (taken)
Bto 1 Tippler (taken)
100 to 8 Hymettus (wanted)
000DWooD 014..
7to 1 Thalestris ('aken freely)
10 to 1 Blondin (taken)
100 to 8 Fisherman's Daughter (taken freely):
100 to 8 Bally Edmond (taken)
100 to 8 Myrtle (taken)
100 to 8 Highflyer's dam colt (offered)
100 to 7 Madcap (offered)

FRIGHTFUL ACCIDENT ON THE GREAT WES-
TERN RAILWAY .—on Tuesday evening a young man
named Moss, a clerk in the employ of Messrs. Holmes, the
met with
railway carriers at Stroud, his death in a shock-
ing manner while returning by railway from the fete held at
Aldeßrmaialswtoany -park, near Reading, in aid of the Great
Widows'Wes-
tern and Orphans' Fund. He was travel-
ling in the special train proceeding to Stroud, and when it
had reached Wallingford-road station, a stoppage took
place and several parties left the train for the purpose of
procuring refreshment at the station hotel. Mr. Moss got
out on the up line, when the Birmingham express, due at
Reading about 8.30, rushed through the station, knocking
Moss down and killing him on the spot. His body was
frightiu
tllyoin the hotel.
mangled,
g No la
ledand
the
ermeme was were picked up and
removed s attached to the rail-
way authorities.
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At the Middlesex Sessions yesterday Charles
Morelli, a clown and pantominiet, Was tried on a charge of
assaulting William Oscarn Labern, who at the time lodged
in the same house with him. The jury found tho prisoner
guilty, but the offence not being deemed an aggravated one
the judge sentenced him to pay a small fine, and bound It lin
Over to keep the peace for 12 months.

Lord,—We have received your letter in which you
state you expressed your opinion freely on the decision
of Us Jezabel case, being at that time in total ignorance
of the evidence given by Mr Johnson, the judge, and the
jockey who was third in the race. if your lordship or your
Mends consider yourselves justified to condemn a verdict
without hearing the evidence, no gentleman can be found to
undertake the duties of a steward at country races.—We are,
my lord, yours, &c.
(Signed)

The Lord Bateman.

H. J. Rous,
STAMFORD AND W ARRINGTON.

54, Grosvenor-place, July 7.

Sir,—l again call upon you and the Earl of Stamford and
Warringten to substantiate the grave accusation which you
have thought proper jointly to make against me in your
former letter, and which seems to have escaped your notice
altogether; or, in default, I call upon you both to retract
that letter and the accusation it contains, and to write me
such an apology for the same as every gentleman has a
right to demand, and which no gentleman would refuse, I
beg to add, in reply to your letter of yesterday, that any
person from the Steward's Stand could see what took place
in the race as well as, if not better than, the judge from his
box, and that the nature of the evidence given was publicly
discussed before I expressed an opinion on the decision.
I feel compelled to publish this correspondence, of which
I give you notice, and am, Sir, yours, Sce.,
lion. Admiral Rous. (Signed) BATEMAN.
P S.—Duplicate of this letter is stint to Lord Stamford.

LOU U a .1. VE

At a Court of Common Council, held at Guildhall yester-
day. Mr Alderman Carter in the chrir, as locum tcnens for
the Lord Mayor, a report was brought up from the Special
Lunatic Asylum Committee of the proceedings under the
reference of the 15th of February last, to confer with the
justices of the city of London, and also with her Majesty's
Government, relative to the future management of the City
of London Pauper Lunatic Asylum, and to effect an arrange-
ment with the justices by which a j,)int jurisdiction would
be given to the justices, and that Court, stating that the
committee had conferred with the justices, and had sub-
mitted the suggestion that a committee of 12 be appointed
by the Court of Common Council to attend all meetings of
the committee of justices (visitors) whenever matters affect-
ing the conduct of business connected with the City of Lon-
don Pauper Lunatic Asylum was considered, leaving the
executive power where it is now vested. The committee had
also referred to the law officers of the corporation to advise
whether, under the circumstances connected with the pro-
viding and management of the asylum, the justices could
enter into any arrangement or agreement under any of the
clauses of the 16 and 17 Vic., cap. 97, or otherwise, so as to
introduce any member or members of the Court of Common
Council, as might be agreed upon, to join the committee of
visitors (justices) of the asylum, as subscribers or other-
wise, under the same act. A reply was received from the
committee of visitors by the asylum committee, stating that
upon reference to the act referred to above, they found that
the justices only are legally qualified to carry out the provi-
sions of the act ; and the solicitor had laid before the com-
mittee the opinion of the law officers, advising that the jus-
tices of London had no power to enter into any arrange-
ments for introducing any number of members of the Court
of Common Council into the committee of visitors of the
lunatic asylum. The committee feeling that no farther
steps could, with any prospect of success, be taken to en-
deavour to come to an arrangement with the justices, pro.
ceeded to carry out the former part of the reterence, and
requested the chairman, in conjunction with the Remem-
brancer, to confer with Government upon the subject, and he
reported that he had conveyed to Sir G. Grey the wish of the
Court of Common Council that the Lunatic Asylum committee
should take necessary steps to introduce a bill into Parlia-
ment to amend the Lunatic Asylums Acts, by making pro-
vision to the effect—" That the corporation having taken li
upon itself the erection of its pauper lunatic asylum, shall
have and exercise in the same manner as if power had been
given to it under clause 129 of the Lunatic Asylums Act,
1853, to give the notice therein specified, and as if such notice
had been actually given, all the duties and powers with re-
spect to the management thereof which were conferred by
the several Lunatic Asylums Acts upon other Corporations
in England, and the desire of the Court that her Majesty's
Government should assist the Corporation in the passing of
such measure. In reply to this, bir G. Grey stated that he
considered it inexpedient to alter the general law of the land
respecting the government of pauper lunatics ; that similar
applications had been made by other cities which had failed
to give notice under the 129th clause of the Lunatic Asylums
Act of 1853, and had afterwards built their asylums, and
that he had been compelled to decline complying with such
request, and that therefore he could not accede to the wish
expressed by the resolution of the Court. But he further
stated that if the general law on the subject should again
come under the consideration of the Legislature, he would
be willing to consider any application then made for placing
the goverment of the asylum in the hands of the Court of
Common Council, they having contributed the necessary
funds. The committee, under these circumstances, had
not at this period of the session felt it expedient to proceed
further without any additional instructions of the Court.
Mr Deputy JONES moved that the report should be re-
ceived.
Mr M`GEORGE moved, as an emendment, that the report
be referred back to the committee, with power to confer
with the justices as to the best course to be adopted by the
Court to meet the necessary expenditure to be incurred in
the management of the asylum, and to report thereon,
whjch was agreed to.
A report from the Law, Parliamentary, and City Courts
Committee relative to the proceedings on the Thames Con-
servancy Bill in Parliament was read, and it was decided
I not to offer any further opposition to the bill.

Lady Wilson, wife of Sir John M. Wilson, Bart.,
Military Commandant of Chelsea College, expired at that
institution yesterday. The lamented lady was daughter cf
Colonel John Houlton, of Fairleigh Castle, Somerset.
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Naval Engagement off the Island of Rugen,

BERLIN, July 5.
The official Staatsanzeiger publishes the following
particulars of a slight encounter between the Prus-
sion and Danish naval forces off Rugen :
At noon, on the 2d, five Prussian gunboats were engaged
with a Danish frigate, believed to have been the Tordensk-
jold, and a paddlewheel steamer, to the north of the island
of Hiddensee, west of Rugen. The Prussian 3d gunboat
division fired 46 shots, the enemy about 150, many shells
bursting in the immediate vicinity of the boats. Officers
and crews behaved admirably, but were obliged to break off
the fight after an hour's engagement, as three of the guns
had become useless. The rifled battery of the 3d division
of Pomeranian artillery occupied Dranske, a point upon
the Wittow peninsula, opposite the north of Hiddensee, to
support the gunboats, and the despatch boat Grille put out
from Swinemunde.

At 5 p.m. on the 3d, the Tordenskjold, 34, and the
Schleswig, 12, came wnin a short distance of Rugen to
reconnoitre the coast of Wittow. Lieut.-Colonel von Pode-
wils occupied Dranske with two companies of the 11th
Regiment and the 3d mortar battery of the Pomeranian
Ar:illery. The D,nes remained passive, The Prus.,i,tu
artil:ery fired 20 sheiks, 7 of which were seen to strike the
enemy. The Daues withdrew in a damaged condition, and

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evening.

Advices from Stralsund of the 31 give another
account of the same Affairs. They state :
" In consequence of the engagement yesterday off Wit-
tow, in which the 3d division of screw gun boats attacked
a Danish frigate and a paddlewheel, the Ist and reserve
division, with the Grille, put to sea in the course of the
afternoon, Upon arrival they found the engagement had
ended somo hours. The fight was begun by the gun-boats.
The frigate replied to their first shots by a full broadside,
which was received by the Prussians with a general hurrah.
The Danish missiles struck the water at a considerable dis-
tance from the boats. The Prussians succeeding in plant-
ing several undoubted hits in the frigate's side, and fire
beginning to issue from her port-holes, the Danish paddle-
wheel, which had been lying at a right angle to the frigate,
commenced a well-aimed fire at five-minute intervals, en-
veloping the boats, especially the Jdger and Salamander,
upon the right wing, in a dense rain of shells, while the
frigate slowly withdrew. Notwithstanding this heavy fire,
none of the boats were injured save the Salamander, which
received a slight damage to her outer timbers. The flotilla,
however, was unable to continue the engagement, owing to
four of the 10 guns of which it consisted becoming unfit for
service, and, therefore, retired after three-quarters of an
hour's fight.