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CERTIFICATES GRANTED.

W. J. Miall, Ingram-court, Fenchurch-street, cement
manufacturer, certificate of the second class—P. New-
man, Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, tea dealer, certificate
of the first class after three months—J. Wilkins, Brighton,
builder, certificate of the first class—S. A. Fisch, Bed-
ford-street, Covent-garden, tailor and robe maker, certi-
cate of the second class—W. Pownall, Macclesfield,
Chesire, silk manufacturer, certificate of the third class—
H. bhuttleworth, Saffron Weldon, Essox, ironmonger,
certificate of the third class—F. Long, Vere-street, Ox-
ford-street, importer of foreign lace, certificate of the
third class—J. Hall Denton, Ashton-under-Lyne' Lan-
cashire, hat manufacturer, certificate of the second class

—T. Lord, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire,_ boot and
shoe maker, certificate of the second class-4. Cadman,
Derby, grocer, certificate of the first class.
PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED.
R. Marsden, Manchester, and J. Whitehead, Valpa-
raiso, merchants—W. P. Lang and Menhinick, Vaux-
hall-bridge-road, builders—G. Bird and J. Horton,
Cardiff, ship brokers—J. Thompson and J. Thompson,
Peterborough, general dealers—R. Hall and T. Gordon,
Tottington, Lancashire, and Manchester, calico printers
—T. Anderson, A. D. Anderson, and G. Anderson, Li-
verpool, (so far as regards T. Anderson)—W. M. Jack-
son and J. R. Cooper, High Holborn, printers—H. Gar-
lick and J. Garlick, Malmsbury and Westport, Wiltshire,
butchers and farmers—J. Dilks and J. Hart, Not-
tingham, engravers—R. Oglesby and G. Spurr, Boston,
Lincolnshire, oilcake and bone merchants—R. Polglaie
and W. Wilkins, Commercial-road, East, engineers—R.
Marsden, W. Glover, R. H. Glover, and R. N. Marden,
Manchester, merchants—R. G. Ibbett and J. Smith,
Worship-street, auctioneers—J.Robinson and J.Barrow-
cliff, jun., Stamforth and Bawtry, Yorkshire, timber
merchants—W. Turner and E. Thornley, Radcliffe-
bridge and Prestwich, Lancashire, tailors—G. Hawkeley,
J. Hukin, and C. Haslam, Sheffield, silversmiths (so fur
as regards J. Hukin)—Ann Thornton and W. R.
Wright, Creston. Lancashire, grocers—W. Booth, and
E. J. Tindall, Portland-terrace, Regent's-park, auc-
tioneers—C. Cayley and A. Cayley, Opera-arcade,
Westminster, stationers—M. Cowen, C. Wood, and G.
Walker, Manchester, moulders (so far as regards C.
Wood)—J. Peel, T. Bell, and IL Lamport, Alexandria,
Egypt, merchants—T. Henry, D. Henry, and W. G. P.
Henry, Mark-lane, and Dundee, rail-cloth manufacturers
(so tar ..as regards W. G. P. Henry)—R. Ransome, J.
A. Raneome, C. May, and W. D. Sims, Ipswich,
Suffolk, and Great George-street, Westminster, iron-
founders (so far as regards C. May)—J. Webster,
sen., and J. Webster, jun., Cambridge, builders.
SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS.

S. Carson, Cove, Glasgow, wright and builder, to
meet within the Elephant Hotel, Dumbarton, June 25
and July 16, at one.
J. Howie and R. Simpson, Edinburgh, merchants, to
meet within Johnstone's Temperance Coffee-house,
June 22 and July 13, at twelve.
W. Allan and R. Drummond, Glasgow, wrights and
builders, to meet within the Star Hotel, Glasgow, Juno
22, and July 13, at one.
J. and J. Alexander, Glasgow, tailors, to meet within
the Globe Hotel, Glasgow, Jane 23, and July 14, at
twelve.

H. Henderson and J. Lamoug, Glasgow, distillers, to
meet within the Glasgow Stock Exchange, Glasgow,
June 25 and July 16, at two.
C. Boyd and Son and R. Fulton, Glasgow, commission
merchants, to meet within the Glasgow Stock Exchange,
Glasgow, June 23, and July 14, at twelve.

SEABORNE MATT.S.
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PLACES. General Post-office port die- due.
London; patched.
America (by Brit. pkt.)N June 18 ".. (Liverpool .• June 23
America (by U.S. pkt.) N June 15 Liverpool .. June 24
America (by IJ.S.pkt.)M June 23
Southampt. June 30
Australia (via South-
ampton) .. •• 31 • • • • • • .. Southampt.
Ditto (via Marseilles) N 1 .. • • .. ;Dover ..
Ditto, via C. of G. Hope N 2d of the month.. 'Plymouth..
Africa (West coast)• • N'l4th of the month !Plymouth June 29
Alexandria* ........ N 11:th & 30th of mo.lDover June 18
Belgium .. .. N?Daily .• :Dover .. Daily ‘s
Brazil3l,9th of the month Southampt. June lu
Buenos Ayres • • .. M 9th of the month ISouthampt. June 16
C alifornia (via C haver) M.ll & 17th of month ; Soritham pt. June 20
Cape of Good Hope N 1 .. .. Plymouth.. June 29
Cape de Verde N 2d of the month .. Plymouth.. June 29
Constantinople* 17th 27th of mo Dover June 20
Central America .. MI 2d & 17th of men. ,Southampt. June 20
Channel Isles N,Mon., Wed., & Fri. Southampt. Tn. Th.Saf
Chili .. • . Mll7th of the month 'Southampt. June 20
France .. if & N Twice daily .. Dovor Twicedaili
Greece* .. .. • • N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. June 20
Hamburgh N, Tuesday & Friday 'London .. sat'
Holland •• AT Wednes. & Satur. London .. Mon. Thar
Honduras .. • . N.l7th of the month Southampt.
June 20
Ireland .. .• M& N , Twice daily Holyhead.• TwicedallY
India (via 2outhamp.) M 20th of the month Sonthanipt. June 28
India (via Marseilles) N Bth&24th efmonth Dover • • June 17
India, via C. of G. Hope N'lsth of month Plymouth..
Mauritius N 15th of month Plymouth..
Mediterranean (via I
Bouthsur 31 pten) • • ,20th of the month Southampt. June 28
Mediterranean (via I
Marseilles) .. .. N Bth&24th of month Dover .. June 17
Mated ra •• M :2d of the month.. Southampt. JulY 5
• • M 9th of the month Southampt. June 16
Malta* .. I 7th,17th,19th,27th } Dover June 23
N sth 15th 25th ofmo, Dover ~ June 22
t &30th of month
Papal States*
B 15th 15th 25th of mol Dover Juno 22
Naples*
•
Peninsular.. .. M 7th 17th 27th of molSoutbampt. June 26
Peru •' • • •• •• Ai 17th of tho month 'Southampt. June 20
'Puscansr-„, •• •• •• N sth 15th 25th ofmc DoTer .. June 22
West Indies •• •• la 17th of the month Southampt. ,June 20
West Indies (except
ed
Havanna & Nassau) Al 2d of the month .. Southampt. I
* The mails to those minute, tam marked (s) are convey by
•

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF LORDS, June 18.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool-
sack at Five o'clock.

PETITIONS.
The Duke cf NEWCASTLE presented petitions from
the Australian colonies against the transportation of
convicts to Van Diemen's Land. The Noble Duke read
the petitions at length, but said ho would refrain for the
present from making any remarks upon them..
The Earl of DESART denied that the colonies had
any right to complain of the conduct of the mother
country on this subject. Tho number of convicts had
been greatly lessened within the last few years, and
to show the readiness which was evinced by
the colonists to obtain convict-labour the Noble
Lord read a letter which he had received from ,
Hobart Town in January of this year, describing
the manner in which a convict ship on its arrival in pert
was besieged by persons anxious to hire the convicts.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Mr.
Richard Spry, complaining that he had been arrested
for debt while coming down to their Lordships' House
to attend before the Committee on the London Necropo-
lis Company- The case divided into two parts—ono
affecting Mr. Spry as is witness, and the other affecting
mg h ast
to party. ithor
regard to his being a witness, he
their
Lordships that Mr. Spry was not
process or summons of their Lordships'
attendingho
oi
bfeyl i
am
y p W
House, but voluntarily and of his own accord.
Lord CAMPBELL sun as'ed that a Committee be
appointed to search for pieccderta.
Lord BROUGAAM acid there were precedents with-
out end on the subject, but he had no objection to the
appointment of a Committee,
or to refer the whole peti-•
tion to the Committee.
The petition was then ordered to be referred to a
Select Committee.
NAVY PAY BILL
The Duke
NORTHUMBERLAND moved the
sec
which he explained was to
effect an alteration in the mode of paying off ships.
Lord MINTO approved of the Bill.
After a few words from Lord WALDEGRANE the
rpeaudkieng of
of 'Le Bill,
Bill was read a second time.
CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELECTIONS BILL.
On the motion that the report with rmendments be
agreed to,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he would
take the
i oPP°rtur'itY of remarking that ho did not con-
sider that the amendments which had been introduced
into the Bill would at all conduce to its better
working. As it at present stood the only effect which
it would have would be merely to quicken and facilitate
itmpheruencvdinegoift in any
otherwhichwah)..
t present existed, without
After a few words from the Earl of DERBY, the re-
port was agreed to.
LAND SALES IN AUSTRALIA.
d_idoss"emd,"wP when the
The Duke of ARGYLL presented a petition from the
car-
ried constitutedeeislatieveed
Legislative Council of New South Wales. That body
Aersstheme
hAlyctofof
that body
oadiyid ihtywaaus
i-
raafjbr majority,
Lordships. In
()lonial.
recall the circumstances under which it was
or-ty. In order to explain the petition ho
1842, two Acts were
Noble Earl (Derby) was at the head
office—respecting land in this colony.
sot'Ophf::rtehill;eleoduf:them, the Land Sales Act, provided that land
sales should take place only under that Act, and that
no public land should be sold at less than 20s, per acre.
Out of the gross proceeds of the sale, which were to be
applied generally
to the purposes of the colony, one-half
was to go towards defraying the expenses of emigration.
Another Bill, which had also been introduced by the
Noble Earl, conferred on the colony of New tenth
Wales a Legislative Assembly, two-thirds of
the members of which were to be elected, and
one-third nominated by the Crown, and its powers of
legislation extended to all subjects, except one parti-
cular class, for which the assent of the Crown was
reserved. That was the state of the law up to 1850,
bwrhoeung
ht
the forwardbl e
anE aAr le,
tt ha el
tne r
fug considerably
fhe
powers
of the New
, South Wales Legislature, and establishing
legislative councils in the other Australian colonies also.
The
Powers of the New South Wales Legislature were
considerably
, increased by this Act, particularly in refer-
ence to tne reservation of assent or dissent to tho mea-
sures Colonial Legislature, which had hitherto
heenmof theaintained in favour of the Imperial executive at
home. All the salaries of officers, with reference to
prospective appointments, might be altered, except those
of the Governor or judges, and the amount reserved for
religious purposes was also not to be touched. But in
Customs duties the colony was empowered
to hele
might be deemed necessary, provided
tmvyatatleirS O
such
ch
as
they were not prohioitory duties against the mother
country, or contrary to treaties entered into by the Im-
perial executive with foreign countries. Further, the
Legislature might alter the whole constitution, and in-
stead of one, establish two Legislative Chambers, both
of which
might be elective. From whatever cause,
however—whether from the change of views on the part
of the colonists, the wishes of tho home Govern-
meet were not realized in reference to these alterations;
and the Legislative Council, which was elected under
the Act of 1842, drew up the petition which he hod
now the honour to present to their Lordships, and which
petition the Legislative Council elected under the Act of
1850 had adopted. The Noble Duke here read the pe-
tition, which was to the effect that the Council declared
it a duty they owed to themselves and to posterity to
record their deep dissatisthction with the constitution of
the 14th of Victoria, c. 7G. They were dissatisfied with
the administration of the waste lands, and of the reve-
nues generally of the colony, and they found, to their
great regret, that the land schedules were increased in-
stead of being abolished. As the last act of their legis-
lative existence, no other course was left sto them than
to protest against the Imperial policy; to declare and
remonstrate against in and to enter that protest and de-
claration upon five grounds. They declared, first, that
the Imperial Parliament had no power to tax the people
of New South Wales, or to appropriate their revenues;
but that all taxation should be made by the Colonial
Legislature; next, that the revenues arising from the
public lends, of which her Majesty wed trustee, could
only be appropriated to the use of the colony; thirdly,
that the Customs, and other branches of revenue,
should bo subject to the same control ; fourthly,
that the action of the Legislative Council should not be
fettered by interference with the Parliament at home;
and fifthly, that no Colonial Bills should be reserved for
the sanction of her Majesty, unless such as affected her
crown and dignity. h conclusion, they declared they
were prepared, it intrusted with their own lands and re-
venues, to provide for all the expenses of the colony, ex-
, elusive only of the Governor's salary. He (the Duke of
Argyll) was ignorant of the reasons which had induced
the colonists to intrust biro with the petition for presen-
tation to their Lordships, particularly as he had not been
present in their Lordships, House when the Act of 1850
was passed. However, he considered he was bound to
present it, and to state how far he concurred in, or dis-
agreed with, the statements of the petitioners. One of
the main complaints of the petitioners was the reserva-
tions made in favour of the Imperial Government with
reference to the salaries of the judges and other officers
of the colonial Government ,
but he could not think the
ground of complaint
e , was quite just in this respect; for
the principle which had always been acted upon both in
this country and the color
in matters of that kind,
when an alteration Was proposed, was that existing
interests should be protected, and with regard to the
the salaries f lodges, they were to be for life,
and that the judges
, should be raised above any in-
fluences which a legislature might bring to bear upon
them by means of lowering or raising their salaries. It
had been stated that the instructions which the Noble
Earl who was Colonial Secretary at that time had sent
out to the Governor of
the colony with the Act of 1850
had had the effect of nullifying its
provisions; but he
found that in respect to the salaries the Noble Earl's in-
structions were that the Governor should withhold his
assent to any Bill altering the existing salaries of officers
of the Executive then holding office, but that the Go-
vernment did not mean
i : to refuse its assent to any pros-
pective regaionsons with regard to salaries which the
council might come to.
With reference to the first ground
mentioned in the Petition as that on which they pro-
tested against the Imperial . colony—
via., olic towards the co
via., that the Imperial parliament bad no power to tax
the colonists or appropriate their revenues, he presumed
the petitioners founded their complaint on the prin-
ciple of the celebrated statute, the 18th of George 111.,
which declared that
the home Government should not
levy taxes on any colony for the purposes of the Impe-
rial Government, and
so far he
agreed with the peti-
titioners ; but lie could not agree with them in their se-
cond statement, that the revenue derived from the sale
of the public land,
was to be regarded in the same light
as tho revenue derived from taxation. The real ques-
tion for consideration was the manner in
which the inte-
rests of the colon_
y could be best provided for in the dis-
posal of the land found. As to the general principle laid
down in their second statement by the petitioners, he
could not assent to it ; but ho must say that opinion
was much
divided as to the effect which the price of land
as fixed by the Act of 1842 had produced on the co.
bony ; the general opinion in the colony being that it
had proved i
-Dilations, and for his own part he was not
sure that it would not be advisable to give up to the
colony the management of the waste lands, fixing, at
the same time, the geographical limits within which
that management should be exercised. With reference
to the Customs he thought they ought to be at the
disposal
of the colonial authorities. The fifth
statement, however, was the most important—viz.,
that no Bills should be reserved from the Le-
g:slative Council for the signification of her Majesty's
assent, except those which affected the prerogative of
the Crown and the general interests of the empire.
There could be but two modes of effecting that object;
one was to draw up a list of the subjects affecting Impe-
rial interests, which the colonial legislature should be
prohibited by Act of Parliament from legislating upon;
the other was to retain a general power of allowance or
disallowance of colonial acts for the home executive, as
at present, In the discussions on the Act of 1850 this_e
subject had been much debated, and the former mode
was mofor
was strongly
urged upon the Government of the
Govern-
ment adoption, but the Noble Lord at the head of tie?
.n that
at that time (Lord J. Russell) was of opinion that
to draw
it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible,a not quite
up such a list. He (the Duke of Argyll)tewNsoble Lord;
sure that he concurred in that view of the
k that it was
but, at the same time, he could hardly think
retane
a great cause of grievance that this power
was i d
he could not
by the nom,
Government..
However, help being struck with the tone of dssatisfaction and
irritation which pervaded the
petition,
the the wisdom,
.of the policy which
dand he doubted
reten-
tion of Crown nominees amongst the members of
the Legislative Council. Whenever any question of
mother country,
arose having reference to the . y,
arose in the Council, they always
e found the s
alerted
members on one side and the nominated members on the •
other, and that all the weight of public opuIWU ever

went with the elected members. This very petition had
been carried in the Legislative Council by a majority o
21 to 8; in the minority there was not one elected mem-
ber—they were all nominees, and all except one held
official situations; whilst in the majority of 21 against
the Government there were besides the elected members
two o the nominated members who did not hold any
office under Government, and those contained names of
the a lost wealthy and respectable men in the colony. He
would lay the petition, then, on their Lordships' table,
convinced it would receive their attentive consideration;
feeling, also, that their sole desire in the matter was to
adopt such measures as might be most conducive to the
interests of these great communities which were arising
in 'those southern lands. They knew that the true inte-
rests of this country would not be promoted by any mea-
sures which were contrary to the interests of these colo-
nies, and it appeared to him that all parties in this
country were agreed as to the main principles on which
they should proceed in their colonial policy. They ought
to leave the colonies to manage their own local questions,
and limit as much as possible the number of cases in
which the exercise of the prerogative of the Crown, in
negativing the decisions of the colonial legislatures was
brought into question.
Earl GREY said the petition afforded a remarkable
proof of how little the parties signing it were acquainted
with the facts to which it referred. In the first place it
complained that the patronage of the colony had been
reserved by all governments for their own coltish pur-
poses; but, speaking for himself, during the five years
he had held the office of Colonial Secretary, as far as he
remembered, he had appointed one gentleman only to an
office in New South Wales, and that was as keeper of
the Botanic Gardens, the governor of the colony having
represented that there was not a scientific gardener to be
found in the colony, and requested him (Earl Grey) to
send oat one.—(Bear, and a laugh.) The fact was, that the
patronage was in the hands of the governor, subject to
the approval of the Secretary of State—a regulation
which he thought was absolutely necessary for the
purpose of preventing abuse. With regard to the
Customs, the patronage had up to a late period been
retained, not by the Secretary of State, but by the
Treasury; and generally the offices were filled up
from home; it was, however, one out of many of
the good effects of the commercial policy of recent years
that, having removed those restrictions, it became no
longer requisite to maintain the machinery by which
those restrictions had been enforced. And since the
alteration which had taken place in the navigation-laws
all control over the Customs department in the colony
had been transferred to the local Government. Of
course all the measures of the governor were subjected
to the supervision of the Secretary of State, but practi-
cally the appointment of Customs officers was entrusted
to the governor of the colony, precisely the same as the
appointment of other officers. Upon the question of the
management of waste lands, nothing was more common
than to hear it slid that the management ought to be
vested in the colonial Legislature; but that was not a
function for a legislative body at all; it was a duty for
the executive Government to perform. What the Le-
gislature had to do was to lay down certain general
rules with regard to the mode in which the public lands
were to be disposed of, and it was for the Executive to
apply those rules. As to New South Wales, Parliament
had laid, down those rules by the Act of 1842, which was
passed on the recommendation of the Noble Earl oppo-
site (the Earl of Derby), and was one of the best and
most uselul measures ever adopted in reference to our
colonial empire. It laid down clear and definite rules
for the management of the waste lands in the colonies,
and HI those rules to bo applied by the executive Go-
vernments, and he held that in taking this step Parlia-
ment did that which was perfectly just and reesonable.
The only nefect in that Act was, he thought, that it did
not fix en upset price for land; but that had since been
remedied, aid now the great pastoral interests of ,Aus-
tralia were benefited by the occupation of land upon
favourable terms for grazing purposes, whilst at the
same time the lend was not allowed to be inclosed by in-
dividuals before it had been actually used by them, nut
left free to the public to be purchased as it was wanted
for use. So far as the feelings of the colonists were
concerned, he did not believe they desired that the exist-
ing system should be altered, because, in looking over
the addresses of the various candidates who had offered
themselves to the electors as members of the new Legis-
lative Council of the colony of Victoria, he observed that
a very large majority of them professed their determi-
nation not to concur in a reduction of the upset, price for
land. These matters involved principles of the highest
importance, and he begged their Lordships not to be
hastily led away by popular cries for what was called
" sell-government." There was no greater advocate for
selftgovernment than he was; but he did not believe that
self-government ought to mean that we should throw all
power into the hands of an utterly unbalanced
democracy.—(Hear, hear.) Ile would further • add,
that many of the principles put forward by the peti-
tioners were really inconsistent with the maintenance
of the British colonial empire.--(Cries of "Hear, heart")
He knew that many persons sincerely entertained the
opinion that it would be for the interest of this country,
and of the colonies themselves, if the connexion between
i
them were dissolved; but that was an opinion from which
he totally and entirely differed. He believed it was for
the best interests of both that the British empire should
bo maintained as it was—that the power and greatness
of that empire, and of every separate member of it,
should be preserved; but, if we were to continue a united
ti
empire—it the British empire was to be maintained—lt
was obvious that the Imperial Government must exer-
cise some authority over the colonial legislatures.
Lord WODEHOHSE said that, with regard to
the
the
management of the waste lands, he agreed w
Noble Duke (Argyll) in what he had said upon h
sub-
ject rather than with his Noble Friend (Earl the
Gre )
He fully admitted that the administration of waste lany.
ds
was a matter of Imperial concern, and that nothing
could be more absurd than to sup-me that, when
persons from thin country setticd_tilmwseerleves upon a
forthwith
great continent like Australia, they were
entire
waste
to assume the administration of
lands of that continent. On the other hand, however,
,
there was a point at which a colony
might arrive,
ht fairly demand
when, amongst other matters, they might
from the Imperial Government to have a larger share
in the management of the waste lands; and it was pos-
sible that the colony of New South
at that point when it would e Wales had arrived
desirable to give its
b
local legislature the management of those lands within
certain fixed limits. With regard to that portion of the
petition which related to the veto of the Crown upon
measures which had passed th© colonial legislature that
was undoubtedly a difficult an
to define the subjects
upon which the d delicate matter to deal
with; but h© thou
was easy
easy' -
might legislate, and
should cgohlotniita wl
c
that the consent of the Imperi_al Government
be
necessary in all case where the Royal prerogative
or
Im-
perial interests were conceriiie:l_h table.
•
The petition was laid upon
._
THE BARONESS VON BECK,
Lord BEAUMONT, in moving for a copy of the justice of the peas©
in-
formation taken on oath
hbieehfor se, the
warrant to apprehend
Wilhelmina Von
at Birmingham, " which
and Constant Derra was
issued, said that since the last occasion on which
under their Lordships' notice,
case
he brought this
he had had communications with several persons- con-
cerningd that all those communications
atit,
and
uts
Smith,lle then made to their Lord-
confirmed the the barrister who was em-
amongst other things, he stated that he
pshlojap•es.d fMorrihTe°purosecution, had written him a very long
letter, in which,
did not advise that a„ warrant should be taken out—
,were his words. But ho (Lord
" quite the contratow;
reason to modify the remarks he had
made upon that g
Beaumont) saw no
entlemau's conduct, which he thought
had been aggravated by the unfeeling letter which had
since appeared
from him in ono of the daily newspapers.
the many difficulties hi the way was one
Amongst
arising from the circumstance of the death of Mr.
James, the magistrate, who issued the warrant. He
would contentlhimself by making the motion of
merely
en notice.
The I
which he had given
R vCHANCELLOR said that since the
O
subject had
been last before them he had received a
communication from the Mayor of Birmingham, written
by the desire of the magistrates, stating their anxiety
and readiness to have this matter investigated.
The motion was then agreed to.
BARON DE BODE'S CLAIM.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM moved for an account of the
entire sum awarded to the uponclairnants
of, the the French
names
Compensation Fund, distinguishing rho
sums claimed by, and the sums awarded to, the several
claimants, by virtue respectively of the statute 59th Gee.
lIL, cap. 31, and the Treasury minutes of the 2d of
May, 1826, and of the Bth of June, 1830, and of the 15th
of March, 1833. Also an account of the sum remain-
ing in hand after payment of the last award, and of the
manner in which such sum has been appropriated.
The Earl of DERBY was understood to say that the
the Woods and
money was • temporarily applied to
Fo-
rests. It was afterwards returned, and applied to the
settlement of the demands of the claimants.r The whole
sum had, he believed, been thus app priated. He did
not think that there was any of
.th money remaining.
He had not, of course, any objection to the information
asked for by the Noble Earl being produced.
The motion was then agreed to.
THE CANTON OF NEUFCHATEL.
Lord STANLEY (of Alderley) asked the Noble Earl
the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, whether
objection to lay before Parliaments copy of the protocol
recently signed by England and the four great European
powers respecting the Canton of Neufchatel?
The Earl of MALMESBURY—AII I think necessary
or convenient to say at presentur
great powers of Europe.
That protocol being, ho is, that such a protocol
has been signed by thew ev' er, the basis of negotiations
I
which are still pending, do not think it would be con.
venient to produce the papers.
MR. SPRY'S PETITION.
In reference to tbis petition, which had been presented
at an early part of the evening,
Lord BROUGHAM expressed his dissatifaction at
the mode in which the subject-matter of that petition
was treated. Instead of appointing a Select Committee,
to search for precedents, he was of opinion that the
party who had been arrested on his way to that House,
ought to be examined at the bar of the House.
Lord TRURO said that the rule was that in the case
of a witness being arrested while proceeding to any of
the courts of law, or to that House, with a view of giving
his evidence, such person was immediately ordered to be
discharged.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said it certainly ap-
peared to him to be a cue for bringing the parties to
the bar. That House had decidedly the power of dis-
charging from custody persons arrested under these cir-
cumstances. In the present case all they had to do was
to inquire whether the statement made was in every re-

spect correct, and that the party was really procee..lier;
to that Home for the purpose of prosecuting his interest
as a suitor when he was arres:ed.
The order for the appointment of a Select Committee
was nitinuaely discharged, and upn the motion of e,
Lord BROUGHAM, the sheriff's officer order
to titterad that douse with the prieper forthwith'

JUNE 19, 1852.

On clause 80,

The Passengers Act Amendment Bill, the Trustees
Act Extension Bill, and the Suitors in Chancery Relief
Bill were severally passed through Committee.
The Enfranchisement of Copyholds Bill and the Mi-
litia Bill, were severally reported, with amendments.
The Turnpike Trusts Arrangements Bill and the
Scutch &tills for Flax (Ireland) Bill were severally read
a third time and passed.
The Poor-law Commission Continuance (Ireland) Bill
was read a second time.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH presented two peti-
tions; the one from the Lord Mayor and ex-Lord Mayor
of Dublin and a large body of the citizens of that city,
and. the other from the poor-law guardians in Carrick-
on.-Sbannon, in Ireland, praying for a system of repro-
ductive employment in the Irish workhouses.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 18.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
NISI PRIUS OFFICERS BILL.
This Bill went through Committee.
COMMON LAW PROCEDURE BILL.

The House went into Consreittee on this Bill,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the Bill contained
a clause to the effect that when a person residing out of
the jurisdiction of the court was served with nutic; he
might be proceeded against in the ordinary way. He
had given a pledge to the Attorney-General for Ireland
aid the Lord Advocate for Scotland to make an ex-
ception in regard to those two countries, and he pro-
posed to insert an amendment of that nature.
The amendment was thou proposed and agreed to.

On clauses 51 and 52,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL (in reply to Mr.
Crowder) said he agreed that special demurrers were a
disgrace to the profession and ought to be abolished, and
e would have no objection to consider the subject, an d
draw up a clause, with the assistance of the Hon. and
Learned Member, with the view ot meeting the evil.
Mr. WHITESIDE admitted that the system of de-
aurrers had given rise to great abuses, but he thought
i t would be very inconvenient to do away with them
a Itogether.
After a short discussion the clauses were agreed to
N pith some amendments.
Mr. CROWDER said he would endeavour to draw
t ip a clause on the point adverted to.
The early clauses of th© Bill were agreed to after
;ome discussion.

Mr. EVANS moved, as au amendment, that the words
1 rout the word " time," in the 21st line, as far as tho
'word " and," in the 28tti line, be omitted.

The Committee divided, when the numbers wore—
For the amendment
Against it ...
Ljority

56
-33

The clause, aver a slight verbal alteration proposed
by the Attorney-Genera, was then agreed to.
(,:lauses up to IS2 icein,livo wore ihen agreed to.
ATTORNEY-GENERAL, considering the 123 d
cluatse to be entirely useless, would therefore strike it
out altogether.
T h 6 remaining clauses were then agreed to.
The ATTORNEY-GE2,IERAL then said that there
was another clause which he had been pressed to intro-
duce,. The object of this clau,.Ac was that counsel should
appe sr on application for a suit in forma pauperis, and
that costs should not be recoverable uuless the judge de-
cide( l the action to be of such a nature as to require it.
Tl,,e clause was then agreed to, the House resumed,
and ;he CHAIRMAN reported progress.
kI:V 3T ER IN CHANCERY ABOLITION (RE-
T IRING PENSION TO VICE-CHANCELLOR)
I3ILL.
¶1 'ho report on this Bill was then brought up and
rigs .?ed to.
PA :CENT LAW AMENDMENT (STAMP DUTIES)

BILL.
'The report cn this Bill was &so agreed to.
METROPOLIS WA TER SUPPLY BILL.
This Bill as amended was considered, and ordered to
be read a third time on Monday.
The Rouse then rose a Quarter to Four o'clock.

The House resumed at Six o'clock.
PETITIONS.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS presented a petition from a
number of Dissenting ministers, complaining that no
clause had been introduced into the Metropolitan Burial
Bill providing for compensation in cases where Dissent-
ing burial-grounds are abolished by that Bill.
Mr. HINDLEy presented a petition against the Bill.
Mr. CAYLEY presented a petition from the coal
miners of Lancashire, praying for an increased number
of mine in.spectors.

THE FACTORY ACT.
Mr. EDWARDS asked if the Government have any
i Mention, daring the next sessioa of Parliament, to re-
s tore the clauses in any amended Factory Bill which in
1.847 prohibited tho employment of young persons and
f emales for more than ten hours in any day, or for more
t han 58 hours in any week? and will they be prep%.red
I, o add a clause to prevent the employment of children
Iliefore six o'clock in the morning, and after half-past
live o'clock in the evening?
Alr. WALPOLE said the Government had not at Are-
s ent any intention of bringing in a Bill; but as he ima-
Oned the question was rather put with reference to
r ecent infractions of the law, he would add, that it was
t heir intention to enforce the law, and if they found it
ci)uld not properly be enforced through some defect, to
is ttroduce any amendment necessary for the purpose of
re 'moving it.