The Sun.
London, England, 1864-06-20 00:00:00

for linseed on former terms,
The demand for cakes Was moi
Turnip, Whit e,p.bus.lls to 14s
Swede —s —9
Mustard, Brown loa 13s
White,
Tares, Spring....4s Od 45 6d
Old per quarter - s —s
Canary, per quarter 52s 6,s
Rye grass, new 22s 24s
Clover, Red Eng., et —s
White
Foreign Red —a
White —s
Trefoil, new. s —s

but rapeseed ruled very firm
derate, at previous quotations.
Carraway 22s 20,.
Coriander l2s 16s
Hempseed, per qr 44s 468
Linseed,Eng.sowing 76s 78s
Crushing 583 63s
Baltic —s -8
Odessa —s —s
Linseed Cake, p ton —s —s
English £9loslo 10s

Fdeign £9los LIO 5s
Rape Cakes,p ton.£s Os £6 Os
Rapeseed, new,pr qr 62s 65s

TALLO W.
The tallow trade is firmer to-day, and prices have
slightly improved. P.Y.C. id qu ,ted at 40s 6d to 49s 9d
per cwt. on the spot. Rough fat, 2s /d per Blbs. Town
tallow, 3s 9d net cash.

Particulars.

1850.

1861

1862.

i 1803.

Stock this day.... 1 24.908) 55,188 ) 31.349 37,430
53s 3d ) 53s 3d 47s Od )—s Od
Delivery last week 1,8.-i2 846 2,110 753
f 5283 a %3.42 s 31 to 4t'sl•l to 42591 to
Ditto
Price°til:m'.(2:l:l..e 1 6,221 3,:515 5,147 2,'235
Arrivals last week 1,23E734 1,075
Ditto from June 1 4,(}98 2,014 2,184
Price of Town ....I 53 n i
i--6 "4 628 Od 4. s3d

1,921
43s 9,1

THE MANAGEIITENT OF PRISONERS,

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
5, Chi;d's-
polu permitace,TempmleeStao ar,Jdudnreess you a few
16, 1864.
SlR,—Will y
lines on your leader of yesterday's date upon the
system of the management of prisoners and their
supervision ticket-of-leave men.
In your article it is assumed, and, ifideed, it is
generally understood, that Sir Walter Crofton is the
originator of a system of supervision with which his
name is associated.

Now, sir, give this gentleman all the honour he
deserves, but you will admit that it is quite fair
that every person should have his due, and that it it.
natural, after so many years of labour, I should try,
at any rate, for what I conceive belongs to me, viz.,
the credit of being the originator of a system and
a principle now recognised as most important to the
community, and, therefore, I submit that when you
are in possession of the facts, you will concede the
credit to me of many years' priority of clearly lay=
ing before the public and ministers a practical
system upon the question.

In proof of having done Eo, I beg to state that I
drew up, for the Secretary of State, a system of con-
vict discipline, which was published in 1833 in Tas
mania, where I was High Sheriff—that this work
was reviewed in England in June, 1849, in the
Eclectic Review, article the third, by some writer
who thought my principles might work well here--
that, failing to move the Government or any party,
I gave up the question as useless labour, though I
saw my opinions from time to time acted upon. But
in December, 1862, I had brought under my notice
the name of Sir Walter Crofton, on the occasion of
the Dean of Bristol introducing him to a meeting in
that city with the view of his addressing it upon the
punishment of criminals, and I addressed to the
Dean of Bristol, Dr. Elliot, the letter I take leave
herewith to enclose you a copy,

Leaving the affair for Your consideration, and
fearing that I have trespassed too much upon your
space, I am, sir, your obedient servant,
THOMAS BANISTER.

To the Rev. the Dean of Bristol (Dr. Elliot), on the occa-
eion of his introducing Sir Walter Crofton to a meeting
at Bristol, in December, 1862, and a memorandum on
this, dated 6th January, 1863.
5, Child's-place, Temple Bar,
Dec. 26, 1862.
REY. STR,—In the Times of yesterday are reported the
proceedings of a meeting on the punishment of criminals'.
At this meeting you are reported as taking the chair, and
introducing Sir Walter Crofton to the meeting.
* Whether Sir Walter Crofton was the founder of the
system of convict discipline with which his name is con-
nected, I cannot say, as 1 do not know the date when he
suggested it ; but I can say that I drew up a system which
was published in Tasmania in 1833, of which colony I was
High Sheriff several years.
My work was reviewed in June, 1849, in the 25th num-
ber of the Belecttc .Rcwiew, article 111. The article was
entitled, " Ticke's of Leave in England : A Letter on Colo-
nial Labour, addressed to the Secretary of State for the
Colonies. By Thomas Banister, High Sheriff of Tasmania,
1833,"

In this review you will see, and I am sure you will be
candid and just enougl. to admit, that a system originated
with rce so many years ago as 1832 and 1833 in principle
and details so like Sir Walter Crofton's that his looks very
like a copy of it.

My system aimed at, not the r unishment of prisoners, for
that the law decided, but their reformation under its sen-
tence carrying out the sentence strictly, though
humanely.

I submit, sir, that you will admit that not anything is
more difficult than to originate a system, and that not any-
thing is more easy than to throw off a theory, as the latter
a lively imagination and confidence will produce, whereas
the former requires varied experience of men with power
and originality of mind. It is not for me to say that I
possess the latter. Whether Sir Walter Crofton possesses
power or originality, or whether he has had varied experi-
ence, I know not ; or whether he ever saw my work, or the
review of it in the Eclectic, I cannot say; but certainly the
system he has credit for ant claims is very similar to that
suggested by me,

I may add that I have from time to
time pressed upon
the Government tho errors of their schemes in vain for
many years ; but as it was inaccessible to reason, I have
given the matter as labour in vain—satisfied that their
failure was only a question of time.—l have the honour to
be, Rev. Sir, your very obedient servant,

TIIOAIAS BANISTER.
Memorandum, 6th January, 1863.
If Sir Waiter Crofton had seen my work, and did not
say so, and that he had adopted what he comprehended of
it, it is probable he 'would be too complete a diplomatist not
to keep it to himself.
• • It, has been said that men Who pirate idea
or patent or an
or system generally break down in working them. The
reason is in complicated matters they are ignorant of the
principle or the patent or system, nor do they fully take in
the idea—hence their failures and blunders. Will this
apply in the matter under consideration?
In my letter to Dr Elliot it would appear that I gave him
credit too hastily, He had not the courtesy to even acknow-
ledge it. I have a right to presume that he received my
letter, as it was not returned to me through the Post-office,
and I suppose he considered it was not fitting for him to
say anything about the subject of my letter after his advo-
cacy of Sir Walter Crofton's system.
The cause of failure in England may, I think, be traced
to the system acted upon, and also upon the whereabouts of
the convicts not being known after they obtain their tickets
of leave,
formed wh an
certainty their proceedings, so that an opinion might be
of a ticket of leave. Thus there can be no check upon
them, or very little. Now, they should be under the eye
etdhetrhe thedy ifficu
continuedlt Consequently of knowing with
deserving of the indulgence
of the police until their sentences were expired, and always
liable upon proof of a breach of the conditions on which
they had the privilege of a ticket of leave to be brought
back by the magistrates' order.

It
their ie simngl3Y under folly,or weakness, to make a fuss about
the they have forfeited their
free agency by their sentence, and they pay the penalty of
their freedom or free action,
is simply
urveillance

Sir Walter Crofton's system may have worked better in
Ireland from the fact of the great emigration from thencebeing asked; and, doubtless,
prisonsin left the country. Thus the
to America—where the emigrant is received as an Irish-
system of Sir Walter Crofton cannot fairly be considered
o
free from doubt.
nmuamn *1) ewrist ho
umt
Jan. 6, 18633 TitomAs BANISTER.
eannyfrogmUeSl

* I see by Sir Walter Crofton'
A late publication that
i
tickets of leave were ssued in Ireland in 1856.

Recruiting for the Army,

TO THE EDITOR OP TIIE SUN.
SlR,—There is a great clamour just now about the diffi-
culty of recruiting the army. Every device for
getting men
one. Some time ago
tthe real cause of the
tmio
ipseocnihnl iitseetfa.i s
08
Letiutg tghtehrsoet
ue d:roxvyceoerupn
rtmeteohnietu rtndi gonha
away at once and for
ever with the cat-o'-nine tails and the branding iron, and
The lash and the brand
mayarthereembuweri
dnll:breeeerssns no de
aarty
hfaoer
art hrttho
the worst
butrwe octrrousoti tgesiar.es;
of convicts, men who
cowards to strike the
other blow, and too debased to heed any punishment. But
for the soldier, whom we styla a hero, and who is the
guardian and defender of the nalon's highest henour and
weste retain i
suitable. Abolish both and you will get plenty of recruits;
ta
tmhpeomr,taanntainnoterinesdttsictetmheenctast and the brand are not
will
tempt
men
r
Such are the plain dictates of to enlist.

COMMON SENSE,

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Exhibition of Living Artists, has made his first purchase.
their EmperorhThe
PPrince
make Imperiala c h bo
iac ev r)t;
It is the " Wounded Drummer," by M. Armand Dumareecq,
amongworksbecleinr nipermitted
e atc theby
that has been fixed on by the young Prince.

QUICKSILVER.—In the four months ended April
30 last the quantity of quicksilver imported into the United
Kingdom was 1,195,4131 b. In the same period of last year
the supply did not exceed 353,0981 b,, while in 1862 it was
not more than 82,7311 k.