The Sun.
London, England, 1852-09-24 00:00:00

ITALY.

" We have received accounts from Rome," says the
Debats, "to the 14th. A long interview which Sie
HENRY BULWER had, a few days since, with the
Cardinal Secretary of State is the subject of general
conversation. The following is, according to the
reports current in the political world, the substance
of what took place. The first subject talked of was
the maintenance of friendly relations between the
two Governments; relations which had been some-
what compromised on the one side by the introduction
of the Roman Episcopal Hierarchy into England and
by the prosecution of Mr. MURRAY, and on the other
by several recent legislative measures and by the trial
of Dr. AcuILLI. In order to establish a good under-
standing for the future, the Envoy of Lord DERBY
is said to have suggested whether it would not be
well to accredit at Rome an agent with a higher title
than that of Consul, for instance an ordinary minister.
To that suggestion the answer is said to have been,
that the time for discussing that question would be
when a Papal Nuncio should be admitted at London,
and that, as far as regarded Mr. FREEBORN per-
sonally, the Pontifical Government, by not removing
from him its exequatur, showed very clearly that the
recal or the maintenance of that agent was a matter of
indifferete to it. As to the communication of the
documents relative to the affair of MURRAY, which
Sir HENRY BULWER is said to have demanded, the
reply of the Cardinal Secretary was, it is reported,
peremptory and clearly given by a non pos-
sum. It is even pretended that he said—
' A judgment has just been given in En-
gland, which has astonished and afflicted
us. But, notwithstanding those feelings, we will
not call in question the decision in that affair, pro-
nounced by the legally instituted justice of a regu-
lar Government, master of its penal legislation. We
are also a regular Government. We have our penal
legislation, which differs from yours, but which is
sanctioned by the PRINCE, applied for many years in
the country, and working according to rules the jus-
tification of which we do not admit any Government
to have a right to demand from us. MURRAY has
fallen under that penalty. It was regularly
applied to him according to the forms usual in
these proceedings. To demand the communica-
tion of the documents of his trial would be
equivalent to a suspicion of the judgment not
being correct, a suspicion which would become an
insult for Roman justice, and for the State which has
confided to it the honour, the property, and the lives
of its subjects. This insult, therefore, we reject,
without even wishing to combat it, and we will not
establish a dangerous precedent by communicating
to you the documents you demand. Once more, I
repeat, the affair has been decided, and the judgment
legally pronounced.' The conversation is said to have
afterwards turned on subjects of secondary interest,
such as a few words on railways, and some insinua-
tions on the deplorable state of Ireland, after which
an end was put to this painful interview. Satisfac-
tion is generally felt at Rome at the issue of, the
affair, and the turn which the matter has taken.'

RUSSIA.
The Emperor of RUSSIA on the occasion of the re-
tirement of General TCHERNYSCEIEFF from the
Ministry of War, has addressed to him a letter
couched in the most gracious and flattering terms,
thanking him for the valuable services which he has
rendered to him and to the country during the time
he filled that important post, and during his previous
military career. The letter concludes by a desire
that tke General's son should be placed near the Ext.
PEROIt'S person, and he is appointed one of his Aides-
de - Camp.
By order of the Emperor of RUSSIA, the Imperial
Court of St. Petersbnrgh has gone into mourning for
eight days for Marshal Prince VOLKOUSKY, Minister
of the Imperial household.