The Sun.
London, England, 1852-06-08 00:00:00

the tier° of peace it would have offered us the great a
vent tge tit an iedspeedent jail, as wet; as great facilities
for the conveyance of our troops.—(Flear.) With
spect to the papers, he should certainly prefer to n3°"
for their production. se
Earl FITZ WILLIAM looked on the question of Abe'
thee any offence had been given to the .elegates
matter of little importancs compared with that &whet"'
thero should be a line of railwet'y from one of" the A'
!antic ports to connect Gie provinces of Lower And
Upper Cenacls, New Brunewick, and Nova Scotia'
very much regretted the course which her tittiesl
G overtneent lied thought it right to pursueebecause tii,
eats
Federal Government of the. United States gave gr
encouragement to such projects, and he should grea`ee
,
'deprecate anything that would lead the colonists to
draw an untevourable ceetrast between the -Conduct f
o,
the mother country anti of the United States--; u
The `question of annexation was already discussed it
Canada, and though its was. tar from thinking tu'es
ne
was at all ..in the ascendancy, yet the subject eras ;in
that hallo, century ego could not have been broached et
the colony.—(Hear, hear.) He though', therefore,hso,
it was very undesireble to thwart the opinion of the r
it
lony; and, besides, whatever line should be chesefo'
would be open to the ohjection of being near, th°4
riean frontier:The line along the valley of fufrot
Lawrence would he within only twenty-five ruffles
the northern frontier of.the United. States. enba
The Earl of DERBY—But the line of the St.
would pass within three Miles of the frontier.---(llear'ea
Earl FITZ WILLIAM—At all events, the ehiere
b"l
was only one of amount, and he very much doubt'
whether the one railway would be much more see°e oe
the case of war than the other.—(Hear, hear') 'de.
should think it a matter of very great regret if the jos
should be created in the provincial mind that the °,1,110.
of the colony were disregarded, or treated as of sir tile
pertance; and he trusted that the Noble Earl at re
head of the Government would so shape his roll
course, that if any.feeling of dissatisfaction had already
been created, it should be speedily removed.—(Q°l)esi
Lord MONTEAGLE differed from the Nobleei.
who had just sat down, in thinking that the eown3-oed
cation which had passed between the Government the
the gentlemen deputed from the colony were °f9 le
greatest importance, for there had been many 01%0
which a trumpery case of supposed neglect had °`esed
a feeling on the part of our colonies that had rleuelt.
subsequent negotiation with them exceedingly (12;T the
—(Hear, heir.) Ile (Lord Monteagle) thought
explanation of the Noble Earl perfectly satisfaot;to
but if unreasonable conduct on the part ofdell; be
was a sufficient ground for rejecting their proposaa'o'oll
should not, as the Noble Earl had done, have ref teal
them on the merits.—(Hear, hear.) The very fac;tes.
the-Noble Earl had no surveys before him, while .- the
a good reason for not acceding to the proposition "at el
deputation, was the very reason why he should °re
once have decided againa it. The colonists o
f the
sufficiently sensible of the disadvantages °
proximity of their line to the United Slates; dr
they felt that it was only a question
gree ; for if they had taken Major Robinson.'liet
it would have been open to the very same tte, Wee
But the fact had been entirely overlooked, that ttre; cad
not a mere question between Major Robinson's Pt!, err
the line of the colonists, but thcerejection of al time
position made it certain that at no great length oalest
a line would be opened over American ground---,h t the
hear.) It had been nothing less than a miracle
three colonies should have been brought to 0,0°,010
matter of such great importance not only to ther%eiti
but to as, and he deeply regretted that the celPhr'
should have been lost.—(Flear, hear.) eso
The Earl of -DESAR defended the course tai o, to
the Government, and drew their Lordships' ati;e°'lnece
the significant fact that a meeting which had talteljerrie et
in favour of the S!. John's line in 1850 had been ',v.
Portland, in the state of Maine. They !eight th'''oets
wall suspect that these who advocated that rail/sloe..
interested in a line connected with the -United „alit
The Government had taken then the best course, g
contradicting the withes of the colonists, but in delib,
to assist, in the manner requested, a line es 10
more, calculated to serve the influence of the .f tea
States as of the coloneiteelf. He believed that is
jot
Government had applied to the House of Con3o'loool
its consent to the-plan, it would never have servo
the request.—(Hear, hear.) had n°.(l
Earl POWIS supported the colonists. Thee' - tee e.
asked for the least assistance beyond the gnartiestio 10,
the mother country, and who could expect
choose any but the best commercial line? He celoc
that. the advantage of five or ten years of peace
their railway would fully counterbalance rto the
disadvantages that would arise from its proximity the
American 'frontier. When they reflected iirnenel
hundreds of miles of railway which were Os!
every year through the United States, he was ai'escesl of
the refusal of this country to entertain the psfic,
the colony would be a great blow to those who, ;be
root Tre„ers
years ago had refused, solely. from imperial
solicitations of persons in the United States to tiff
their lines.—(Hear, hear.)
The papers then ordered. „es CO'
SURRENDER were
OF CRIMINALS (FRANC'")
VENTI BILL.. •
On the order of the dayON thefor second readlog of ibis
Bill,
onlY
The Earl of ABERDEEN said the Bill hpl
ed
printed and delivered that day. As the sub.vc, reqri opposite
much consideration, he hoped the Noble v,..i'
hot, e
would postpone the second reading fors
uld take 1".
The Earl of MALMESBURY said °
second reading to-morrow (this day)• r n FURTO
METROPOLITAN BUILDINGS 11'1-
AMENDMENT ding Of
The Earl of DEVON moved the attend rea
•
this Bill. to
The Earl of DERBY said he had no obil-tfdtile
take the second reading on the understendirg ,bat
was given to the Commissioner of Works to con°
the measure.
CONSTITUTIONi HOPE. - - FOR THE CAPE. OF GOOD
. at
The Duke of NEWCASTLE said be wished too
to
a question with rafereondceffotroef
TheheerzebtiletuEtioand
!atoll
given to the Cape or Go
sent out d,so,
at the head of the Colonial Department
ordinances to the.colooy for the-purpose of being 0t.'„,1
sidered and adopted in the colony. IF the discussf."o
of the question in the colony, one of the cofoni_e
officers. the Attorney-Geueral, he thought, propos!:
that the franchise should be fixed at 251, which
eventually adopted. The Noble Earl had embodiedle
his draft ordinances the provision that 25/. should be tie
franchise. Upon the
.re-formation of the legislatoia
council the draft ordinance was taken into consideretkli;
and it was proposed by Mr. Montagu that the frarougp.
should be' fixed at 50/. This proposition was (1„11-0i1,
proved of by the representative members of the e°°-i-
-but was carried by the colonial secretary and the rsceed
nee members. In the draft ordinances an unh°3etsf
power was reserved to the Government of this e°ll-teie
to correct any part of them when they arrived fn lof
country. He wished to ask the Noble Earl (the •rds'rth
Derby), therefore, whether the Government wer° reisa
pared to exercise that power, and to make the fotchitsl
25/., as otiginally.proposed? He also wished to °lib°
another question with reference to the councilA err
was correctly informed, it was the intention of "°„etny
mont to make a still further alteration, by having ;ody,
noes for the second chamber instead of an eleeti"etioth
which ha believed would create - great dissetish'
He asked whether that was the intention?
Noble
puke
The End of DERBY said be thought the Nou'',A sr'
was under the apprebengion that the ordinances PTeo
-
rived in this country. That was not the case,' it,i‘en
last mail broteebt them the dismission which bad d oot
place on the 501. franchise, but the ordinances hsogls;
then passed. There were some forms to be gone tbr
In this country they were little competent to itid
„„-ebau
the effect of a 25/. franchise.in the colonies. as'
acted on the advice of Lord Cathcart, namely,. ,t°eeees.
peal their judgmeat till they
A snail bad come in this morning which had thos; t
brought the dispatches, and no time would be lost id
received the or'u,-lieell
coming to a decision on this question, because 13° thSeisi•
with the Noble Earl that there ought to be n° cease"
He had some apprehensions as to the probabl n 0 of
queues of constitutional. government in the tebeett
Good Hope, but alter the expectations which Into
bold out, he thought that their promises shoultib:obs
filled to the spirit and Co the letter, With regarAr2o sob'
other question, he had not heard of any prop fat
Pe
stitute a nominee council at the Cape of Good
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the representative system.
Their Lordship& then adjourned.