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London, England, 1852-05-29 00:00:00

the British consul at Ancona, had reported the of Ice'
Sine, the dispatches of Mr. Freeborn bed put the (.
re-
vernmenc in possession of the existing circumstanc
they had t xcrted therns9lves to the utmost to prevt z''
any injustice being done to a British subject. One r 9"
monstrance was immediately put in by Mr. FreoborL
and two more had been since addressed to the Papal Go• •
vernment—one in April and the other in the beginning
of May. He did not think there was the slightest rea-
son to impute any slackness in the discharge of his
duties to Mr. Freeborn from the time the matter cause
within his power to interfere. He did not know why.
Mr. Moore had not reported the case earlier, but the
feet of the Government having interfered proved that
the sentence was not one in their opinion upon which
the life of a British subject should depend. With re-
gard to the publication of the papers, the Government
must follow the usual course of withholding the papers
until the negotiations were at an end.
Lord PALMERSTON, during the time he was at the
head of the Foreign-office, had received no information
on the subject of this case. Undoubtedly, it appeared
to require explanation why Mr. Moore, if the affair
originated at Ancona, or Mr. Froeboro, if it were trans-
ferred to Rome, did not make a communication to the
Foreign-office; and also why th friends of Mr. Murray'
in England did net make application to him (Lord Pale
merstoc) when ho wee at the head of the Foreign-office.
With regard to Mr. Moore and Mr. Freeborn, however,
it was only right to say that it was impossible to base
two public servants who had shown more zeal and dis-
cretion in the duties imposed upon them, and it must be
supposed there were reasons which led them think that
the case of Murray did not require immediate represen-
a
tations to the Government of Urea'. Britain. Certainly,
if he (Lord Palmerston) were informed that a British-
subjectwere placed in confinement for trial for a grave
and
country
s
erious offence against the criminal law of the
in which ho resided, he should have in-
structed the Consul or Minister of the place to
take care that he was provided with a good legal
defence and professional advice for defending taw-
self against the accusation. Of course, if tisa
first information the Government obtained of the case
was that the trial had been concluded and the sentence
passed, that preliminary proceeding could not take plea.
He agreed with what had been said with regard to the
before
vernmentthe andpa s
etihhagt
of
tf
t he Rome.Ae
Roman inconvenience of the non-intercourse between this
Act empoweringTheß
to
enter into diplomatic negotiations with Rome, had ex'
an
the Government;crowh
pressed a great desire to have diplomatic negotiations
with Great Britain. Ito
was true that the clause which
was inserted during the passing of the Bill through the
House of Lords, and which prevented the Roman Go.
vet nenent from sending as their representative here an
ecclesiastic, did give offence to the Roman Court. lle
thought that they ought rot to have taken offence at
that clause, for it only placed by law the diplomatic ia"
tercourse etween RAM and England on the same foot-
ing as the diplomatic intercourse of the Court of Rome
had been placed with Russia and Prussia by the deciefoos
of the Courts of St. Petersburgh and Berlin—decisiona
in which the Court of Rome had implicitly acquiesced. '
The Pope bad had Ministers from Russia and Prussia
resident at Rome, and whereas the Russian and Prussian
Governments had refused to receive ecclesiastics as the
representatives of the Papal Court, the Pope had so far
acquiesced in that decision that he bed abstained from ;
sending ecclesiastics to those Courts. He therefore
held that the Pope was not justified in objecting to kre; ;
ceive a British Minister, after the passing of tul
Act, because we were only restrained by law from re'
ceicing an ecclesiastic as the representative of the Celt!
of Rome, in the same manner that the two Courts le ,
had mentioned wore prevented by the decisions of their
respective Governments from doing the same thing. gat
.1„
he did not, in fact, understand that any such refusal to
send a representative here had ever been made by the
Roman Government. What they said was, that in con' ;
sequence of the law they could not receive a permanent
mission; but there was not any reason for not receiving
a temporary mission; and if such a mission were se!"
from time to time, as occasions might arise to require ,
them, that would answer all the purposes that could be d ;
be arrived at by a permanent mission. And he holier .
there was nothing in the present disposition of the Re;
man Court to prevent our Government from order'l ;
our Minister at Florence, or elsewhere, from going ,
Rome to settle any question between the two Govern
ments. He wished to correct what appeared to bite
misconception as to the effect of the clause in the DiPio_
matic Relations with Rome Act, and the notion that !ho 1
on
Court of Rome had refused to enter into any negctiatle
with the Government of Great Britain, whereas tb y
only said they could not receive a permanent millBloo,
and could only receive a temporary mission.
woe
Lord D. STUART, then gave notice that he ore
move on Thursday next for the production of the 0
respondence in Mr. Mather's case.
The matter then ended.
CONDUCT OF GENERAL THOMAS. e
Mr. S. CRAWFORD said he had given notice of
question with reference to the alleged conduct of Gene'
ral Thomas and other miliiary officers at Entilelf. the
in attempting to exercise an undue influence
elector
of
vote of Sergeant Miiinley, a pensioner, and 01,,
the said borough. From a statement in the Northerm
Whig newspaper it appeared that on the 1901_0%11;1
last General Thomas inspected the local penslul„ere,
Enniskillen, and had presented to thirteen of
so,
of two r
who had served in the 27th Regiment, a stun if ,hy
vereigus, telling the sergeant (eiliinley) that t
sapper !1'
them bad votes ho expected they would
and when
Whiteside. Mtliinley had refused to do this, ral The"
the pensioners passed out of the barraclohis an,,,et he was'
mac shook his fist at the sergeant, and seen. voiyed the
a disgrace to his comrades. The questi°n atter, and be
freedom of the subject in an im
hoped the Noble Lord would Pertaat Ina
ation with
regard to it.
to
The
Lord NAAS thought he had some reason no goy.
of the course adopted by the Hon. seriously affect.
Member had given notice of a question
eractor
ing the character of an officer of as highda h
reduced no
any man in her Majesty's service, and had
P amens
better grounds for his statement than an
give some inform
not even
the Gallant
allowed him time to communicate with
under these
•and of course
letter in a newspaper. The Hon. Member had
General on the subject, noes
cir-
cumstances of the Gal'
tion. From his knowledge of the character he could not say
t he believed he
lant Genera! he must, however, say,
derogatory
the derogatory te
would never General,
found committing an
anything as to the tra
re atitherative
brought the question forward on mo
mind to
grounds, ho could not considerhimself b
the character of an officer. Unless the Hon. Member
notice it.
he did not believe that au
officer of the character of Genera
to the subject, and though
l Thomas would ever
s that referred to, be
Colonel RAWDON said his attention had been cane!
be guilty of such an indiscretion a
thought inquiry called for.
S.
Mr. CRAWFORD said he had received a private
letter corroborating the statement in the newspaper.
Major BERESFORD could never refuse ingot./
when good grounds were shown for it. The 1102:
A
Member had produced no ether authority for his mu
went than an anonymous letter to a newspaper.
After a few words from Sir H. VER,NEY,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did net
,
think that inquiry should be granted on allegations
an anonymous letter in a newspaper. He did not thr,
it was the duty of the Government to grant an ins 7,
on such grounds. Nay, more, he did not think It wog.
the duty of a Member to pre:er charges on such grohlahups
—(Elsar, hear.) He could not believe that the Gall :ye
General bad acted as he had been reptesented CO n. 7,0
done. If the charge was made in an authoritatis
manner, he would be prepared to mcs;
Sir F. T. BARING din not take the • same view aeof
the Right Hon. Gentleman had done of the duty'
Government in cases like this. Ile was rather to
(dined to agree with the opinion expressed hinled
late Sir Robert Peel with reference to the rule sus'co
on by the Duke of York, that inquiry should be Inooye
into every complaint, even to those made en 6.°, 68
mous authority. He had never yet heard that 11_100
not the duty of a Government to make inquiry
they found a paragraph in a newspaper imputing an
conduct to public officers. Ho had himself more'
once once made such inquiries. He reed not say that...l3le jo
no wish to cast imputations on the Gallant Ctu:ond
question; but when a Member of that House
rots ..00,
stated that an interference had been alleged to_f cot
taken place with the freedom of election, it Wh7oino
satisfactorf to be told that it was not deserving iliatiestices
Mr. HUME said he looked upon that 53 a logs al
of considerable importance, If such procee tot
those which were alleged to have taken Plece,nithere
instance were to pass unnoticed and uncheckedan
could be nothing like independent elections in this 'iota
try. In his opinion his Hon. Friend had done the
right in bringing the matter under the notws
00_11A is.
House; and he hoped that the Government
Oh
quire into the case, and that if they should find twhigory
steps for preventing its recurrence.
Metier/
ed to drop, and the t _as
an abuse had occurred they would take, the net
The subject was then allow
till
Thursday melt
agreed to. ordered 10 bei
The adjourned debate on Maynooth was
of the adjournment of the House
resumed at twelve o'clock on Friday next.
THE DIPLOMATIC SERVICE. into
On the order of the day being moved for going
Committee on the Civil Service Estimates, at-
Mr. E WART rose for the purpose of calling i„-,,atiag
examinations and a test of the competency of canroitted
tendon of the House to the expediency of in dilates
for situations in the diplomatic service. He aus ner•
that it would be abturb to subject to examinations
sons sent to represent this country as foreign aim 700.
dors. But he believed that we might, with great a...1w
tage, require young men entering the diplomatic e_chthnite
to undergo proper examinations. A system of 7tee
nation was a present established in this countryitiihdits
Excise, the Customs, the navy, and the Ea", boa
Company's service; and the Duke of Welling.tto
reo ntly, with very much to his own honour, ellet7eops,
very enlightened regard to the efficiency of our sr‘h„,e
established examinations for ung offoera in the s„lirglit
He though that the time had cum° when the.f__4oll
also to subject to examinations candidates for_st 13_ '7l-00.
in our diplomatic service. He hoped the Rips
Gentleman the Chancellor of the
or
tz. v,%°00
hold out to him some hope that that reform wow:Din:can
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
see be effscted, if, indeed, it Lai not been alreadYie
admitted
had brought under the attention of. the
s.stieblitbed
e form of examination was o
though no precis
the importance of the subject which the 14%11;7 At.
of tho
that it was exempted from the tendency the pose
ducatiou and mental cultivation'
of tee
to improved c
for the diplomatic service, it would be an error the age
d arraagetce n
public service. For a considerable. period fluetico of which was felt in ull hsr departments. ants
.e
es
of the whale s f the
, ce
improve the diplomatic sell'
;lad exi-7,ted, and were in operation, with re5P .• ei
which was to rofeasie°
The effort* a sno 1,49 rd the Member t
country and to give it the character of zyugtOP