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London, England, 1852-06-12 00:00:00

LONDON, SATURDAY

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, June 11.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool-
sack at Five o'clock.

The Earl of ALBEMARLE presented a petition
from Swansea against the Militia Bill.
NATIONAL EDUCATION—THE MANAGE-
MENT CLAUSES.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE put a question to the
Noble Earl at the head of the Government, whether any
minute of tho Committee of Education had been made,
which would have the effect of making any alteration in
the administration of the public grant for education.
The Earl of DERBY said that a minute had been
agreed to in substance, though not in terms, which
would make some alteration and effect some relaxation
in the stringency of the conditions which at present ac•
companied the distribution of the education grant. It
was not proposed to make any alteration with respect to
the management clauses, but the option of inserting cer-
tain words would be given to parties, by which they would
no longer be disqualified as heretofore from receiving a
portion of those grants. The precise terms were not yet
settled, but as soon as they had been, there would be no
delay in laying it before both Houses of Parliament.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he had heard
from the highest authority that this alteration was an
important one. Now it was but a few days ago since
the other House of Parliament had been called upon to
grant the usual vote for the purpose of education,
and it bad been hitherto the invariable custom to lay
any alterations which might be intended to be made in
the management and mode of distribution of these grants
before Parliament, previous to the vote being proposed.
He must express his surprise on this occasion, that these
alterations had not been laid before Parliament at the
time when it was called upon to provide for this branch
of the public service—a branch which there was no
doubt the other Rouse had provided for under the idea
that no alteration Would be made in the mode of dis-
pensing it.
The Earl of DERBY said that he hoped the Noble
Marquis did not mean to charge her Majesty's Govern-
ment with having been actuated in the course they had
pursued by any desire of deluding Parliament. Frequent
representations and complaints had been made both
to her Majesty's present Government and to the
late Government, upon the part of the Church of Eng-
land, that with regard to the stringency of the regula-
tions of the management clauses they were not placed
upon a footing of equality with other denominations to
whom aid was granted. He (Lord Derby) never had
concealed his opinion, that in that particular the Church
of England had occasion to complain, and at the very
earliest moment he had brought the subject under the
discussion of the Committee of Privy Council with a view
to see whether they could not, while preserving the equa-
lity of the different denominations, introduce such altera-
tions as might remove well-founded objections and remove
the inequalities complained of. The management clauses
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granted to other denominations. The effect of the de-
cisions and alterations which had been made would be
materially to increase the amount to which members of
the Church of England could profit by that aid which
was now afforded to all denominations.—(Hear.)
The Marqeis of LANSDOWNE repeated that it was
the duty of the Government to have laid the nature of
these alterations before the other House before asking
for the vote of the education estimate. That had always
been the course pursued by former Governments.
Earl GREY asked the Noble Earl whether it was in-
tended that the alteration which had just been made
should take effect with regard to the sum which had just
been voted?

The EARL of DERBY reminded Noble Lords op-
posite that many of the most important alterations which
had been made, in the regulations of the Committee of
Education had been made during the recess of Parlia-
ment, and of course after the vote had been taken. lie
was, however, quite ready to say that under this minute
no sum of money should ba applied until Parliament
had had full opportunity of pronouncing upon it.
The subject then dropped.
The Eail of M ALMES BURY laid on the table farther
correspondence relative to the recent insult to Mr.
Mather at Florence.
POSTAGE WITH FRANCE.

In answer to the Marquis of CLANRICARDE,
The Earl of HARDWICKE said that he had, since
coming into office, received no communication from the
French Government relative to this subject, further than
that they would take the subject into their consideration,
but he hoped soon to receive some communication stating
that the French Government was disposed to enter into
negotiations for the purpose of effecting some better
postal arrangements than existed at present between the
two countries.