The Sun.
London, England, 1852-05-11 00:00:00

THE 4, DUNFERMLINE NEWS.

In reply to Mr. FIUME,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL stated that he knew
nothing of Mr. Fetcher, who had written to the pro-
prietors of this publication threatening to prosecute
them on behalf of the Inland Revenue for publishing
without a stamp.
MAYNOOTH GRANT.
Mr. SPOONER then rose to move for a Select
Committee to inquire into the system of education
carried on at the College of Maynooth. He
was confident that in bringing forward his present
motion he would receive the liberal and kind indulgence
of the House.—(Hear, hear.) At the outset he would
say he was anxious to abstain from hurting the feelings
or wounding;the:consciences of members of the Roman
Catholic faith. He bad no quarrel with individuals, but
in the ful!ness of the Protestant faith, be would give to
every individual the right of private judgment. He
quarrelled with the system of education at Maynooth.
He charged it with being injurious to moiety
of having a tendency to create immorality, and
of being subversive of the true principles of alle-
giance.—(Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") He maintained
that the original grant was based on a bad principle,
and that the forebodings of those who opposed
it had been completely realized. The system was
antagonistic to the word of God, and was in fact a
national sin. As such, therefore, it was his earnest
wish to have the grant removed. lie would refrain from
all political argument, and confine himself simply
to the policy of the measure. He meant to conclude
by asking for an inquiry into the system of
education pursued at the College of Maynooth.
That would probably be met by a common but, he
thought, unfounded assertion, that nothing could be
gained by the inquiry, as the Rouse already knew every-
thing connected with tbo system of education. He
would now lay before the House the authority of Sir
Robert Peel to show that such an inquiry was at all
times incumbent on the House. He believed that gene-
rally the contents and nature of the books used in the
College were unknown. When Sir R. Peel settled the
grant by Act of Parliament, he said he did not agree in
opinion that the system of instruction ought to be a matter
of indifference to the House. But it was said they could

not revoke a grant which had been solemnly made. On
that he joined issue. Was ho to be told that the House
could not recall its own gift if it saw sufficient reasons
for doing so? Lord J. Russell also stated, in April,
1845, though he did not agree that they should sud-
denly stop advancing further sums, he considered that
if the persons who benefited by:them became the leaders
of rebellion, or sought to injure the community, there
would be a valid reason for withdrawing all
assistance from the college. That was a sound con-
stitutional principle, and was applicable to the present
question. No one could deny that the priests educated
at Maynooth had from time to time, and especially
recently, offered resistance to the power of the
Crown and the constitution as by law established,
They said, in fact, that they would never be 'content
while the incubus of the Established Church continued
to exist.—(Loud cheers from the Irish Members.)
Hon. Members opposite admitted that, but by
the oath of allegiance which every Roman
Catholic took in that House, they were bound not
to injure the Established Church.—(Cheers.) These
priests were not teachers of religion, but the leaders and
conductors of retellion, and he held that they were at
liberty to repeal the grant whenever they
found that it was employed for purposes injurious
to the public weal, and dangerous to the welfare of the
Monarchy. Then great concessions had not been re-
ceived by the Roman Catholics in the liberal and confid-
ing spirit in which it was made. The Propaganda expressed
the deepest feeling of delight at the exceeding munifi-
cence of the Government of England, bat unfortunately
the practice pursued at Maynooth did not coincide with
what might have been expected under the circumstances.
The books used in the College said that every person
baptized in the Roman Catholic Church should be con-
sidered to be under the dominion of that Church.
They also contained the doctrine that the Church had
the power to dispense with all oaths and vows when cir-
cumstances might render it necessary or expedient.
They then proceeded to point out 24 ways in which
oaths might be got rid of.—(Hear, and laughter.)
Now, if this religion abounded amongst us and was on
the growth, what security bad they for enforcing an oath,
no matter in what shape it was administered? Ho
entreated the House, then, to take the matter
in hand, and stop lending its assistance to principles
which the country detested.—(llear, hear.) What was
the canon law of the Roman Church? Cardinal Wise-
man had been sent by his master, the Pope, for
the express purpose of carrying out this law, and most
effectually was he doing it.—(Hear.) The canon law
was strict indeed, and it it was obeyed, as the Popo
insisted it ought to be, by his followers there was
no security for either person or property.----(Hear, hear.)
This canon law declared that no oath was binding
which did not conserve the honour of the apostolic
see; and, as many of the oaths administered in
this country were directly opposed to that doctrine,
what security had they for the fulfilment ot these oaths
by Roman Catholics? None whatever. And this
was another reason why he demanded that this
inquiry should be had.—(Hear, hear.) Besides the
Pope and his agents had the power ot absolving Roman
Catholics from thh responsibilities which attached to an
oath, and he was not quite certain that this power was
not only upheld, but daily exercised in the College of
Maynooth. (Hear, hear.)
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From the London New Price Current, May 11.)
SUGAR.—To-day the West India Sugar market was
well supplied. At auction 283 hhds 35 tierces and 11
brie Barbadoes were sold at the previous currency, fine
yellow went at 393 to 40s, good middling to good 36s 6d
to 38s 6d, middling 34s 6d to 365, ordinary 32s to 345,
brown 31s; 60 hhds Demerara crystalized full rates,
fine went at 42s 6d to 43s 63, middling to good 383 to
40s, and washed 333 to 39a 63 per cwt.
REFINED.—To-day Refined Sugar met with a lively
home trade demand, brown lumps selling
at 46s 63, and
low to fine grocery 47s to 50s per cwt. Of Crushed
Sngar many parcels wore taken for shipping at former
terms.
MAURITIUS.—This afternoon the parcels of Mauritius
Sugar offered at public sale were large, and amounted
to 14,000 bags, but the whole sold; in some cases the
rates taken were, however, rather under those of Fri-
day; fine and superior yellow went at 36s to 38s, good
345 6d to 35s 63, low to mid 33s to 31s, middling to fine
grey 33s 6d to 363 6d per cwt.
EAST INDIA.—This afternoon the public sales of Ben-
gal comprised 2,500 bags; white Benares, of which nearly
the whole consisted, went at sit rates, and realised 37s
to 403 for fine and superior, damp aria washed 36s to
38s 6d; a small proportion of Khaur sold at 24s to
255, and ordinary soft yellow 25s 63 to 265 63; these
are rather lower terms. The form& r value i; barely
supported for Madras, and the public sales of 2,000 bags
went at 253 to 26s for middling to fine soft brown, at
26s 63 to 28s for low to good yellow, and better sorts
293 to 303 6d. Penang realized the full value, and
2,200 bags at public sale all found buyers, ordinary to
good soft yellow 27s to 295, fine 30s to 325, and like
Mauritius 33s to 355, middling to good white 355 6d to
36s 63 per cwt.
FOREIGN.—To•day there was again an active demand
for foreign Sugar, chiefly for shipping, hut no further
advance has been established. Since Friday the opera-
tions are 3,000 chests yellow Havannah frail-35s to 39s
M. and 25,000 to 30,000 bags
192. fid tO 25$ per ofit clgsed Lianilla in bond at

COFFEE.—To-day Native Ceylon was in excellent re-
quest. At Auction 672 bags sold at 43s 61 tor good
ordinary, and at 323 6l to 403 64 for damaged. Plan-
tation Ceylon met with a good demand and realised the
full currency. At auction 327 casks and 196 bags were
sold, superior realised 725, fine 63s 6d to 653, good and
middling 57s to 593, low middling 5.53 to 56?, other sorts
50s to 455, triage 435 to 583 6d to 69s 6d per cwt.
Cocoa.—Sales of Trinidad, fine rad made at 393 to
445, good 365 to 38s, low to middling 333 to 353. grey
305 to 333, and Granada from 29s to 345. There is yet
reluctance to operate in Foreign and a desire evinced to
sell at previous low terms. At auction 694 bags Para
were taken in at 255. The value of Guayaquil is 283 to
293 per cwt.

dOLASSES.-To-day Molasses met with loss attention,
and at public sale 162 puns of Demerara Molasses were
taken in at 13s per cwt, being the former value.
TEA.-.TO-day several thousand chests of Tea wore
sold at stiffer rates, and low to good ord Congoa realised
Bid to 9id per lb.
RICE.-Prices have not improved for East India, but
the demand has been rather better. The private ope-
rations aro 4,000 bags, and rates for good to fine white
Bengal rule at 9s 9 i to lOs 6d, mid and good mid 93 to
9s 6d, Broken 81 61 to 8s 9d, Cargo Bs, Madras, Pinky
is 93 to 8s 6d, Coringa Grain si 6d to 9s; Pearl Barley
and American 8s 6d to 9s, and Moulmein 9s to 10s. At
auction 3,352 bags Java were sold at lOs 6d to 115 for
good sound white. For Patna a good demand prevails
at lls to 16s, end town-dressed Carolina 21s to 27s per
cwt. Several parcels of Sago have been taken privately;
small Pearl at 155 to 18s, large and medium 21s to 245.
For Sago Flour the market is quiet at 14s, and Farina at
15s to 17s per cwt. Of Arrow Root, supply keeps light,
and the rates paid for Bermuda are Is Id, St. Vincent's
3d to id, Brazil and East India i i to 24.1; orders are
on the increase for Tapioca, and rates for Rio range at
2d to 3id, Bahia and Para lid to 3d per lb.
Irsnmo.-The quantity declared for sale was 6,171
chests in the A, and 1,185 in the B catalogue, total
7,356 chests; of which 255 chests were not printed, or
withdrawn previous to the commencement of the sale,
leaving
chests
vin thehqauvaentity to be brought forward 7,101 chests.
passed the sale this day. The attendance
of foreign and home buyers was larger than usual in the
May sale. The first 400 chests in the catalogue were Kur-
pabs of European manufacture. and well suited for export
orders; they sold with considerable spirit at an advance
of 6d to 9d on the prices of the last sale. A few small
marks of dry leaf Madras followed, and went off un-
evenly at 4d to 6cl advance. The latter part of the day
wha: a
to:. Clueapvieidngwith a few marks of Bengal, which sold as
follows, as compared with the February sale's prices:-
Good and fine shipping 5d to 6d advance, middling 6d to
Bd, and ordinary 5d to 6d. Proprietors bought in 200
chestsc
730
he
market sold.
SALTPETRE.
has
a dull aspect, and there
is a more plentiful supply; a decline took place today
of la per cwt for the better sorts. Of 500 bags Calcutta
at auction a small part only sold, 6i per cent. good
quality at 28s 6d, 8i ditto, 275, and mid 10{ at 265.
Privately the lower sorts are offered at 24s 6d to 258 6d
per cwt. British Refined met with a slow sale at 29s
6d to 30s, and is likely to be cheaper. Nitrate of Soda
is 14s 6d to 15s.
OILS.-This afternoon the public sale of Palm Oil
went off et an advance, and 100 tons sold at 26s 6d to
27s 3d for good to fine quality.
TALLOW.-Notwithstanding the time of year, and
heavy stocks, there has been a good business concluded,
and prices are higher on the spot; fine yellow Russian
realizing 36s 9d to 375. A larger demand exists for de-
livery, and 37s 93 to 38s is now the value for last
three months of the year. Home melted is dearer, and
sales are to a fair extent made at 36s 6d net cash. For
other sorts of Tallow there is also an advance. Of Aus-
tralian 320 casks at auction were nearly all sold-beef at
338 to 355, mutton 33s 6d to 36s 9d; 166 packages South
American 33s 6d to 85s 6d; 46 casks grease 27s to 325;
and 72 casks Italian Tallow 363 to 37s per cwt. For
auction 700 packages are declared.
PROTI sorts.-Although new Irish Butter is offered
scale; fine Waterford at 75s to 78s, Limerick 70s
at low rates, yet operations have been upon small
to 725, and fourth Cork at 583, landed. Of Fo-
reign there is still a plentiful supply. There has
been a large demand; Friezland, fine at 745._. to
765, surplus and seconds 60s to 70s, Holstein and Biel,
fine 76s to 78s, Holland 68s to 703, Goningen, 583
• to 60s, inferior 50s to 545, and fine Leer 66s to 68s. A
good sale exists for English; fine Dorset 76s to 90a;
other kinds 58s to 708, fine Devon 70s to 745, and fresh
7s 6d to Ils per dozen lb'. Baran met with a more
ready sale during the last few days, and rates
are firm; Irish small meat at 49s to 535,
heavy 47s to 50s, Hambro' sizeable 49s to
545, heavy 47s to 455, and Dutch 44s to 465. In Mid•
dies many purchases have been made at rates ruling
from 44s to 465. A lively demand exists for mess Pork,
and supply being light, rates have advanced, Irish prime
selling at 75s per barrel; and Bacon mess 72s 6d. Irish
India is much in demand and 120 s to 122 s 6d per tierce
is the value. Beef is wanted, and is in small supply, the
price of Irish India is 115 s to 120 s; mess 95s to
100 s; American ditto 90a to 100 s a tierce. A free
sale
exists for Hops; Irish from 461 to 58s; English
60s to 645, Westphalia 46s to 48s. There is a reluctance
to operate in Lard; Irish bladdered can easily be ob-
tained at 54s to 595, keg and firkin 46s to 525, Ham-
brough bladdered 553 to 58s, and American 53a to 545.
Only a limited demand exists for Cheese; Edam 34s to
425, Gouda 31s to 40$, Kanter 18s to 18s 6d, and Ames
rican from 303 to 42a per cwt.

SPORTING NOTES.

No. CCXXIII.

INTRODUCTORY GLANCE AT THE DERBY, &c,

TO THE EDl7Oli OF THE SUN.

SIR,—By way of commencing my final-remarks on
that race of races, the Derby—without exception the
greatest stake in the universe, both in value and the in-
terest it excites—it is my intention to-day to lay before
the sporting readers of The Sun the names of those
horses that will be absentees from Epiom, and likewise
those that are in active preparation for the ensuing great
event. There is a third class which may send forth a
few starters, or may not, about which at present I can
say nothing.
I, colt, B
Gerard,e wick,
The following list includes all the certain non-
starters:—Filly by Fancy
Boy, Rolando, Bull's-eye,
Pa° recPloi t , Ile,
Greyleg, Oh Don't colt, Tomato, The Surveyor, Dis-
may, The Monk, Hugo,
Weathcrgage, Wiasma
colt, Nutcracker, The Prophet, Little John, Croat,
Hy mettus, Hesperus, Rosary, Magnes, Hyacinth,
pc ai
dl 'a
sG I Boldel ld i
n nßi nog)", Varmint,TPhoeod Poodle, S i Sir JohnTom
Lens, colt by Slane dam by
Alarm's dam colt, Canter-
, The Old English Oak, Bob Major,
General Washington, Man-
bDF Pinch,
urora Came1,l
yn! Dollop
i idi
Fortis,
Delia
Thelerilicatiaes
tc,ceCoc
Songster, Science colt, Hautboy, Haitoe colt, Water
Lily, The Monarch, Brother to Deicoon, Odessus, Letter-
press, Constantine, Governor, Baron Martin, Sir William
grove, The Major
Harper, John of Leyden, Richard Primmer, Geleon, Al-
hambra, Sir John Barleycorn, Duke of Leinster, Snar-
ler, Garibaldi by Gladiator, Jennala colt, St. Alban,
Cavan, Royal George, The Old Lad, Grand Duke, Lucie),
Chopkins, Breastgtrth colt, Rebecca colt, Cleveland,
Sarodon, Garibaldi by Moss Trooper, Captain
Flash, Sister to Johnny colt, Cruiskeen colt,
Ocean Monarch, Harry Bluff, Norhsni, Galti-
more, Fama colt, Azle!, Clumsy Jack, The Suttler,
colt by Hetma.n Platoff, dam by Camel, St. Andrew,
wiegentind, Wideawake Livermere, Orpheus, Free-
trader, lioulakin, Glee colt,'
Theodine, George the Third,
Horton Yates, Emerystone, Nonsuch, Don Carlos, La-
zarus, Young Hawthorn, Ovando, Dogberry, Glen 0!
Anchisis, Bird of Prey, Camara, Fancy Bird, Chimney
Sweep, Showman, Guzerat, Lord of the Manor, Child
of the Mist, San Benito, Don Issachar, Blackstone, Pea-
cock, Stratagem,
Constitution, Fancy Free, Xenophon,
Macedonian, and Wedlock filly.
Those horses who are in active preparation are the
following:—Augur, Rin-
g of Trumps, Ambrose, Orelio,
Alfred the Great, Hobble Noble Homebrowed, Har-
binger, Kingston, The Nabob, 'Buckthorn, Alcoran,
Youog Hammond, Maidstone Joe Miller, Stockwell,
ClaTerhouse, Little Harry, Missive, Treasurer, Elcot,
and Convulsion.
Both Stapleton and Father Thames, I believe, will
be missing from John Day's lot, and Lapidist from
Cooper's stable.' The starting of Daniel O'Rourke and
Phantom from Scott's is somewhat doubtful, though one
or other may be
tent General Anson's Princess colt
may be sent to the poet also; as may Old Rowley or
Claverhouse h
cY Launcelot from W. Day's stable;
Masham from
, Saunders's, or Peppermint from Wad-
low
's. Gorden An may
appear as a starter, as also
may the colt by -
Pbleuon and Hierarchy. All these
latter remarks are, however, purely speculatiYe, and
founded on no information of my own.
I shall Proceed no further in my remarks on the
Derby to-day, merely considering this as introductory
matter, and adjourn them, theretore, till Thursday
next, when I shall lay before my readers a curious batch
of news concerning those horses who are preparing and
intended for this -event.
I great
perceive by the entries
for the Rowley Mile Plate
that no great light will be thrown on the Derby by its
result to-day.
The runners for the Suffolk Stakes to-morrow will be
St. Antonio, Tophana, and Maria. Poodle and Hugo
may also go, but it is understood to be very dubious.
The betting this morning is quiet at the following
quotations: —Suffolk Stakes---6 to 4 agst St. Antonio; 2
to 1 agst. Maria. 10 Sovs. Stakes-5 to 2 agst Arethnsa
filly; 4 to 1 east any other.
Cleveland Handicap
(Shrewsbury)-5 to 2 eget Lenny Wheat. Derby-6 to 1
agst Hobbit) Noble; 8 to 1 each agst Little Harry and
Alcoran; 11 to 1 agat Claverhouse; 12 to 1 agat Stock-
well; 15 to 1 agst Alfred the Great; 16 to 1 agst Kings-
ton; 25 to 1 agst Orelio; 25 to 1 aget Joe Miller; 30 to
1 agst Dent; 30 to 1 agst Augur; 50 to 1 agst Missive;
50 to 1 agst Buckthorn.
I am, Sir, yours, &c.,
THE SPIRIT OF THE TURF.
May 11, 1852.

COURSE OF EXCH.
A.tnatercAm ....... 12 1
Rotter
Ditto, three Months .. 12 214
dam 12 2
Antwerp.. „. „. 25 65
Brussels.. •• •• ••• .. •• • • 25 65
It
unburgh ..M.B. 13 I I
Altona • • • ....
Paris, 3 days'siglit •• 25 47%
Ditto, 3 months 2S 65
Marseilles .. .......... 25 65
Boardeaux.....„. •• •
Frankforton 122%
Berlin .. ........
Vienna, dice. ao.• •• •• 12 28
Trieste, ditt0.......... 12 40
Petersbargh, 311. Rble.. 3714
Madrid • • •.., •• •• ••
Cadiz '• •••:. .• •• .• •• •• =ow,
Baxeeloaa .• •• •• •• ••
Sevilla.. •• g• •• •• •• ••

tiNGE.-(THIS DAY.)
(Mraltar••••••••••••••
Geghorn•• •••••••••.•• 30 82►%
Genoa 25 65
Milan .. f•••• •••••••• ••

Venice................
Naples • • • ... •• • • • • •• 4C 14
Palermo, perms .• •• •• •• 122
llessina ...• • ... .... 122
Lisbon.. • • • ... 5314
53%
Oporto • • • • • • .. •• • • •• ••
gio Janeiro • • • •
Ruenos Ayres ........
Now Yerk, 60 daylesight
Philadelphia .• • • • • ....
PSIOEB OP BULLION. PER OZ.
Foreign Gold inbars...£3 17 9
Portugal Gold Coin • • 0 0 0
Spanish Doubloons .. 0 0 0
New Dollars ••.... 0 4 IN
Sliver in NM e• •• ga •• 4 "A II -A

ROYAL ASYLUM Or 0:
Earl of Yarborough will press
London Tavern, on Wedneeda.
merous body of noblemen and
taascilic craft.

,T. ANN'S SOCIETY.—The
ide at the anniversary at the
6, next, supported by a nu-
gentleman, especially of gie

GLASGOW AND SOUTH-WESTERN RAlLWAY.—Traffic for
the week ending May 8, 1852 ;
Passengers ,2 ~096)_ goods and
parcels, horses and carriages.. £3,721 0 7
Corresponding week in last year Z 3,774 14 1
Glasgow, May 10.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LO It DS. May 10.
CONVOCATION OF THE CLERGY OF YORK.
Lord REDES DALE then rose to bring forward a
motion, of which he had given notice, for copies of the
writs summoning convocation in the province of York.
He said their Lordships would recollect that last session
he had called their attention to the subject of convoca-
tion, and certainly since then the subject had lost none
of its interest. He believed there was a steady and pro-
gressive desire on the part of those interested in the
Church, that her members should have the same means
of governing her affairs as were enjoyed by the Church
of Scceland and by every other religious community. It
was well known that great exertions were making, on
the part of the Church of Rome, to have synodical
action; and it was of course more important that the
Church of England should possess that power. It was
necessary that some tribunal should exist, before which
questions relating either to doctrine or discipline might
be referred; and all persons must feel that neither
HOMO of Parliament wan a fitting body for that pur-
pose, to which petitions or inquiries could be properly
addressed relative to subjects connected with the
Church.—( Hear, hear.) It could net be denied that
the Church of England was deficient in some tribunal
of this kind, to which could be submitted the control
of her internal regulations.—(Hear, hear.) Leaving
now, with these remarks, the general question, be
would refer to the particular matter which formed the
subject cf his motion. It was known to their Lordships,
probably, that the Convocation of Canterbury, though it
did not proceed to discussion, was regularly constituted,
and, to some extent, even might be said to transact
business; for it presented an address to the Crown
though not permitted to enter upon any other matter.
The convocation of the province of York, however,
though it was a body more popularly constituted—i. e.,
having more elected members—had not so regular a
character, and had ceased fur a long period to discuss
any business. It never assembled, for instance, in two
houses, but the prelates sat in the same chamber with the
minor clergy—partly, no doubt, from the limited number
of bishops in the province, and partly from the fact that,
as there was no business to draw them together at York
on the assembling: of Parliament (the occasion when con-
vocation was summoned), they usually sent proxies.
There had, therefore, been a limited attendance and but
little business. It would be desirable to revive the power
of exercising the proper functions of convocation as
they had of old been exercised ever since the
Reformation. Thus the canons of 1603 had been
considered and sanctioned by the clergy of the
archdiocese of York in 1704, in convocatioe,
summoned by Archbishop Hutton ; but in which;
owing to that prelate's death, the dean, by royal
commission, had presided. So, after the Restoration,
there was an assembly and convocation (as we under-
stood) on Church affairs. So, in Queen Anne's reign
there was an address to her Majesty with regard to
Queen Anne's Bounty. Even during the reign of her
present Majesty, in 1847, the clergy of the province of
York desired to address the Crown, and the late Primate
concurred in that wish; but dying, his successor did not
like to disturb a long,-standing system, and so the mat-
ter dropped, and from that time till the present year no
convocation had been summoned. In this year, however,
they were summoned in the usual form. They had ad-
journed to the chapter-house, and stated that it was their
intention to present a petition to the Queen, to which a
courteous reply was sent by his Grace that in the ab-
sence of any licence from the Crown ho could only direct
the petition to be sent into the registrar. Under these
circumstances, and supposing that everything bad been
regular, they had thought it right to make this state•
ment; but he was sure that he would not be conveying
the wishes of the parties, if be reflected in any way upon
the conduct of the Right Rev. Prelate upon that occa-
sion. Everyone must appreciate the unwillingness of
the Right Rev. Prelate to take any steps except those
which had been sanctioned by former precedent. At the
same time he was sure it would be felt that it was open
to all to canvass the question of whether the not opening
the seasion annually was one which ought to be perse-
vered in, or a course which was justified by precedent.
Hitherto the question had stood thus—that where at-
tendance was given, the session was opened; and it was
a feeling shared in by himself and others, that the clergy
of one province should enjoy the same privileges as were
enjoyed by the other. He hoped and trusted that in
calling the attention of their Lordships, he had not done
it offensively to any one, and he would suggest that the
example which was about to be set by the Right Rev.
Prelate's lamented predecessor might be more grateful
to the clergy, and with these remarks he begged to sub-
mit the motion, which was merely of a formal nature, to
their Lordships.
The Archbishop of YORK thanked the Noble Lord
for the temperate manner in which he had alluded to
the mattereand to the Right Rev. Prelate his predecessor
and himself. True, his lamented predecessor had given
a most unwilling assent to it. In 1837, on the acces-
sion of the present Sovereign, when it was proposed to
hold a convocation, and meet and forward an address of
congratulation to her Majesty, it had been forbidden
by his predecessor, because it had not been done for the
last 180 years. At his very advanced age, and imme-
diately before his death, at the solicitation of certain
parties, he had given a reluctant assent to present a
petition. When the writ came down to York, ho had
transferred it es quickly as possible to the registrar,
with orders that whatever had been aforetime done
should in that case be done also. He was not an inex-
perienced man, but had held the office from the earliest
part of the century, and had succeeded his father, who
bad held the office fur fifty years, commencing in 1779,
so that it had been in the family for nearly 100 years.
He concluded, therefore, that whatever had been the
practice would bo done. It appeared that no archbishop
had attended in any instance since the time of Henry
VIII., except twice—once after the revolution in 1688,
and again in 1708. There was no single instance ex-
cept those two. There were always some Commissioners
who represented the archbishop, who were generally the
dean and chapter, and who attended the convocation. It
was true that the convocation met on the 4th of Feb.,
and that one of the members sent to him to say that he
had one or more petitions to present to the convocation.
He presumed that it was the duty of the proper officer
to receive them. On the sth, after they had met—how
many were present be did not know, but he had a letter
stating that they bad met—that they went to the
chapter-house, and that they
_found nobody in attend-
ance, and adjourned. He nth written to the deputy
registrar, who had stated at all had been done
which was usual and
of the
He had never
heard anything more the matter until it bad
been brought forward by the Noble Earl, but he had
satisfied himself that what had been done was according
to the usual practice. He had received a letter from
his secretary on the subject, in which he stated that
s. with respect to writs from the Crown, your Grace has
since your translation to the see, done all that was ne-
cessary in such cases." That was in answer to a letter
directing him to make inquiries into former precedents.
He also bad ft letter from a canon residentiary of York,
of twenty-six years' standing, who had been domestic
chaplain to the late Archbishop, and who stated that
the former Archbishop had never been present, nor was
any archbishop present in the chapter. house since the
year 1720, when it was opened by Archbishop Sharpe;
and that the prorogation of the writ on the 4th of
February was strictly in accordance with precedent.
Now the writer, Mr. Dixon, was an accomplished anti-
quarian, and he had assured him that there had not
been the slightest departure from ancient custom. Ho
could not pledge himself to do so on any future occa-
sion, at the same time the address of the Noble Earl
should have his best consideration.
Lord LYTTLETON would be extremely sorry to see
the convocations of either province brought into ex-
istence for business in their present constitution, and in
an irregular manner, as if by surprise. Still he thought
that the convocation should be allowed to petition and
memorialize the Crown, as was done frequently its the
diocese of Canterbury. It would appear that the Right
Reverend Prelate relied entirely upon the information he
bad received from others, and contended that what ho
had done was strictly in accordance with precedent.
But he was informed that on the 19th of November.

1847, the question of the election of the Archbishop of
York was taken into consideration,as appeared by the
records of the court. On the occasion referred to by the
Noble Earl, notice had been given to the Noble Earl
that a petition would be presented, and that was the
grievance of which those parties complained.
The Earl of REDESDALE replied, observing that ho
was sure the address of the Right Rev. Prelate would be
received with as much satisfaction by their Lordships as
himself.
The motion was then agreed to.
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