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cumstances he did not think he should be doing his duty
if he consented to withdraw the raotion.--(Cheers.)
He haA browser it forward with n specific purpose.
Lecause ha telt that the evil vras growing and ought to
be met_; and haying done this he should certainly press
'it to, a divisione--(Lend cheers.) --- -.-- -- - - : . -
Mr..GLADS PONE Was sure the House_ would feel
that, after what hacisfellen . from the ,Hon. Gentlemoo,
some explanation was fineoete_tishiairryingonquh6itse-dp,a,rheo—ne(siltieye,...,r.sj,
The Hon. Gentlemen had stated that he (Mr. Gladstone)
dhaoeumdchraurgt erdo.hliii3esiewkihh
hi4d
reftertwd
Au,
tln.ooo,rse
ot.,hls ,
speeoh;:. Nose. bis (Ntr. Gladstone'e)memory might err.
like that of others; but his recollection was strong-that
he. had never used such an offensive or improper word.,
—(Heer,sbear.) ~ If he ;184 wade 4,e' he -would be the
first to, epulogise foe...invite (bone. so; ,but, he- bed „not -
,useci the,word " henestlyXtrod. he had merely charged
the Right Hon. Gentleman 19wfitlezEt
xhaQyainEg4-quuestes: islexers.:
reetly.,-(lleaes hear.) ... ...
, - e e s - se
. . .
ewitle.lai‘nht!ed.h'eCeillihat,blexteldr6.d:Lfilel::s°resditusa:4kn .thhe:Hreoteisr:ey.;_esince), mistaken.
lie etheChae e,
oefiet,
of the ExciuquOr),hs4 never, deniedfor one ramscosn't the grave importance of the, seeis;et ,whioh,the.
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Hy 9;7 tst:Saroivratwtt
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3. . In a. ea
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_,
undressed_„
shs av : :
stated that it was impossible to exaggerate its import- •
ptehei r ercf. e
e' u lion.a s difficulties
Ist ake' et with
he:
tan wt
I wtehou ifhe which he l'bohe.a 4ey had
Membershtiwade,
ia
ddteic 'l' ti et:: :::::Pwdi:etds
4if ;eta' 7i proposition
aBAkyot whicholt: eh '
,osswein:dgc;kwal listeningapsc,
xotnexlo
which
hiati with 'itt'
hgreat
would
attention is t o the Honourable.
appea Gentleman's
t 9.
b jll
.istt ahtae tt atElhaer; proposition b e a ekno,httowhekaat hddt
heegi
fa
censdae loi,
diisyie.tootdnhbicedije:ti :hoot :rt -
bad no wish whatever to'honitty
pressioa that he did not hitesell teel'thelbsofute neces-
sity of inquiry. When thellon. Gentlaben skid that*
friendly inquiry had been offered; but that he ee
quired -a " judiciarinquiry," he (the•CtienUellor of this
Excheqier) must tell him that the ditifeditp- which he
felt when, he first rose, and which lie, still continued to
feel, Was that he did
!itinAotiticeeitheteihmootwoyhatepairreseni advised a
judicial inquiry could be instituted. 'He would'not talk
uf4. fgenispdily
iientiquiiiit.7, could nht'promiss
a, 5
~1
'Governmentl
dwh
tial i
tse
I•t. te. 1 .
.hbr ae f2et
oontrhelei
agrti
oend .
:11tanflefeds beo
of 4:hnea fide inquiry';
gabnitlii.atull'ted-ehri 'athe
tieefreHuoit
,ju Gentleman ,
ought t.e. ask her Mis,jesty'
do.—(Hear.) The subjhet 'brought befoi.i.the Hotiie-L5....
important as it was-was surrounded.
_With_ difficulties.;
No person could .ci entend that there were means • ee jogai,
tuting a judicial inquiry as at present.. advised, and he
could only say on the pu.rt of`; the.-GovernMent that the
. grave ctre
curnstancesalleged.—(tierer.)- .. _
~.
inquiry_
. Trfetollor:lmelaid.ibliveidoialet,sdEbm,°lmnwahGauhioeN:etshfiinow:dithneto:h;i:orcil:,pu.osaiG.rsilYiee.dilene:,-br::e:o:t,wlh,iliexttreharcere.teGfluol.,
• Against it ...... ..• 's.
.•-• 100-
n
- IMSjority•againdt the motion
- FO
• Lord. DUDLEY * STUART, puritiant
itno 'notice,
continuation'
•'
,atooymeaokme
communications
nfi°calitoiwoninsgw
Governments,v ernui ent of . t his countryrespecting
tahned
filotturgk
se
tyi ,a o
and
gees detained at litutayah, from the-date •of the lase
-
dispatchuet)rethiosnHtohoissesupbpjeteot,thaeepoprey;eonftWtimbieeh.(
of papers already presented to Parliament)" It would
be in the recollection of the Housethaevery early in
1850 he drew their attention to the 'events' which had
taken place in Hungary and Turkey,hndpaarittiecrtilheralvyintgo
the
.demand made, as he thought most unjustifiably, be
the Governments of Austria and Russia upon the Sultan
for the surrender of certain refugees. who,
taken part in the struggle which had•then recently pre-
vailed tor the liberty and independence of. Hungary;
had sought an asylum in the territory of riurkeY.
The
Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton, after stating his
agreed opinion on those transactions, '
table of the House a selection from the dispatches
which had passed between those different Govern-.
ments. A very considerable time elapsed before those
papers were forthcoming, and itewatr not until 1851, after
he had reminded his "Noble Friend (Lord Palmerston) of
his
ecl to laythe
on
• promise, that the promise was- hailed. ..His Noe&
Friend then laid on the table two dispatches, one or
which felated to the -refugees who had' been t hut -up in
Turkey. His present motion only contemplated a con.
tinuation of those dispatches. All that he asked was,tha,
inasmuch as this correspondence only came down to'
April, 1850, that they should have other papers laid on
the table which would bring down the corrOpcindeece to.
the time of the liberation of those refugees' on the Ist et.
Septemberorereo
olt had
said,
TheNtl:libalteiLt
thoseord•at, the bead of,the late
Government
the table of the House they would prPoßvPirtil 6rawtthe gielßridti- oat.
Government had in reality clones that- whioh the Ameri-
can Government claimed to have donee -namely, to have-
effected the liberation of the captives-of Kiutayah. ' The
present Chancellor of,the Exclifquer; Whea he (Lord D:
sSattudahrte)
oaopoplidiedoottothhhiimk
thoner-ethwisousludbjbegctsauvyeryohojebolitgloiungtlyt'):
ctoo ntshuelitr tphreo 'd
oFoottroeuig. n:
Ho ffie
:c e(liboerfdorpee. leset..u,
the production of 'those' papers, -bit that he Anita
Stuart)
had since-
learnt
consent
learnt with regret that the Right Honourable Gentle-
man
a a wt
eulidosfseetof it
teohw on 1,1.
filutY
could be resisted. It was well known that when the re-
fugees from Hungary sought shelter 'in Tutkey, the Go-
d. thoatopgproooseodths iss o motion. He
such a motion
vernments of Austria and Russia addressed to the Sul-
tan a demand at which the feelings of all Europe re-
volted, that those refugees should be delivered up to the
vengeance of those Governments; and if the British
Government had beau so instrumental, as was repre-
sented, in procuring the liberation of the captives, that
of itself was a sufficient reason why the dispatches iv
question should be laid on the table of the House. • Hs
was very glad that Englaed and the United States were
united in the liberation of kosstith and the other refu-
gees; and he did not at all • want to detract from the
merits of the United Stateein what „they had done; but
his 'belief wad that the Misgissippi 'might buts remained
at the -Dardanelles till this time if .it had not - been fir
thteenerge tie representationi made upon the ifibject by
the British*Government.' If. the papers he *asked • for
e
right
geo ;heat granted,twoi ,withheld
ittnhh
tshwnel,t.
htaonietotihtteimbyweepdehtdadi
dtli
tod4nh
owi established—iflebtoeieit:oh6woheoaoi
tny_lwithhold
country
iowouldeeii
:if,p6pur:nhtieasitr,:heieoherjane.:
to *bleb they were' ntitled. The, papers ought to be
given for the justification of the Noble Lord the Member '
appear to be something like a want
stmooruo
sati
.Tiverton;itusyo Itibreosr
4isiodn
idtdh
of generosity to the late GOvernmentin now withholds'
ing them. The only reason that -could -be given for
withholding them was, that it might be unpleasant to the
Governments of Austria and of &nisi& to have it shown
that the representations of the "British anibassiador 'at
Constantinople were attended with' More" Weight than
theirs were; and further, that their'. papers Might
,show
great vacillation on the pert of *the Porte as to the
liberation' of the refugees. But he thoughtehese reasons
were not Of weight sufficient to justify the withholding
of these papers, and therefore he would move the reso-
lution of which he had given notice.
,
f
vnmisiih_tteciedooth.
Mr. HUME seconded the motions on the.ground that
the people of this country had taken a-great interest in
-calling*:on the GO-
"his question, and had held meetings on the subject froth
one end of the country to the other;
these 'refheees. , He
vernment to interfere on behalf' of
thought, therefore, the papers ought to 'be given, in or.;
tiyqwubheesictPibeorn has been-patio itatelhtit;
'der to show that the confidence of
_the people had not
been misplaced, but that the Government had exerted
Lord PALMERSTON—As I One inueh•eoneerned in
Noble Friend has al-
themselvei to carry vat the
tl'ikeet°tPhicel people:
t
so far as ram concerned, sand I believe I may say also
trupr
nee
irs
iphytto nap dsf
teeinrc
the
for the Government of which I w.a& then a iiierilVer, that
we have no objection- to granting, the
theolupdpeoedar,
g the motion of my
Noble Friend. It is a fact known to'all ..the world that I'
these refugees were detained in Tarkey for‘aconsiderable
portion of time, against. the the natural
wishes of
the
Turkish Government, but in deference to the apprehen-
sions and 'the wishes of the GOvernment of Austria. I
am not here to blame or to find fault-with' the Govern-
went of Austria for the feelings--theyme 'entertained with
regard to these persc e
nsese(Hear. T
e • hpy did entertain a
feeling of :alarm, which was no doubt sincere. but it was
the opinion of her Majesty's Gorse:lament , e
that Austria
had no right to dictate to the Porte in what manner
the
Sultan should exercise the rights of hospitality. towards
persons who had committed no Offetice against Turkey;
and that he was entitled, if he chose, to set those refugees
free. The British Government did,..erto_ .
y intervention,
and by the exertions of her Majesty's arnbsestatir at
Constantinople, repeatedly and cormantipurge.npOnthe
Porte to give way to its own .inclinationie and to 'permit
these refugees to leave Turkey., ~
"01- course, everybody
who knows the relatiio 'strength of 'f, ll'nei and her
powerful neighbour will at once see that, with every dis-
position to act upon the s• `geherOu feelings- or the: Sultan,
there were'nevertheless considerations-of prudence and
policy which interfered. with- bit.free'choicuin a matter
of this kind,- and-it-- became- :the re-important -for
Turkey that it should be abloto allegeeneteppeet of the
wishes of its own' Government the urgency -se, a foreign
Government pressing upon them-to det thatewhich they
felt to be just and proper. In whet degree the-A/110A:-
can Government contributed -to jprodaeeethis reeult, I
am not able to state. No donbtitt...ex,4i4rPedAtlhauence
to accomplish the same purpose r
elPoaww::lehoured to
achieve, but the correspondence will h... hat was done-
by -the,Britiah. Ekovernesent. Thetis whicheu the Flom.
is coneerneifto know. . I have only farther. _ to say; that
by a careful selections-of the 'fisPerg °'
i eeth: dispatched
from the Foreign-office; and thee rep! f eta her hia.
en what were•the efforts
jesty's ambassador--it will be'se __ .
nee
of the .British Government, and what, eee attender'
•'' * - - - —e--e--Ivits the very
ything that Would r' li . Holloway's 1 e._.....
those eff)rte, without containing W.l.be - L.,,DVERTISEMENT.— d weal, stoma es-
to the
offansive to the feelings; or distrusting _
.s opinions of best Remedy for Bile, ndigestion,ranA PiecadillY, Man-
the Governments either of- 'Auseriee':!,ll-e,V,10;
~I.shall Extract of a letter from Mr. Rieh,,astr,...
The gratituclil owe.
therefore support the motion of my ..,:,,,,,orTE,r,;.tr,,,,i . . chester, to Professor Holloway.
cure I have derived by
The caiiNcEtLon ef• the EA-`-'"l4`-`r.' The ;to
R-- , is great for the extraordinary
sixty-four )
ears of age, and
stated seer t -takin our wonderftil Pills.
Noble Lord who made this raotionshae , Ytruly
mare . . , ly frombile an in_
d -
I suffered so severe ...received
of /Apra. 'saving been for than forty years s
en to me. 1
that I held•the opinion, a airier .
d d* ' 'that life a complete. btird
id get 'no pernia.
with regar to a cora di was
placed on the table of the House
..ft.
was u _
themedicaladvise at all timeselmt con
n best
Pills, and they have so in-
pleted diplomatic correspondence,- that •i
upon th° nent relief. At length I tried your to the most robust
whole desirable that the sequel of that correspondence- ,
I vi orated my constitution that Ism restoresp ofeuer Holloway's
should be given, but thit on •a: .subs.equent.oceasim and at r •
heitlth....--Sold by all druggists a
• gdiring•at the Foreign.ondcin. . . •
told the ,Noble Lord that, afteren i , Establishmeat, 244, Strand, L
hat vsould be - A . aver of highways for a
office, I had, reason to doubt. whether.
a 'ex' -' NUISANCE... —The surv-,
returned ia his t
, Noble Lord thatlately.repot
dent course. I eau !assent the,' . . , w
prudent ee tow I' -in the Forest of,Desg- de in the schedule,
ns ip
• m any desire to After the Ivor
did not arrive at that conclusion- fro ,„e . de- the following answer' s
s A-e Wrote eWe are plagoed,with
tract from the meritteof bur-predecessor.,:: yas!! riser.) State all the nuisancFS,"___ .. _ 4.
Thseaccuilul. *near to have been
The factis, there had been, aseiseweu known,
_a gt:eat. a great deal of Irialt.''., , ceticg, held-at a club=
th . t a town'am
deal of aorinionioak feeling existing; oa.. e 'subject J, examinedand -allowed et
mixed up • . •
between the various ,COurts , which were i
.. . in . room in the•villege. .. _
six/MTS.It is shown by a
this question. f Happily,' all those -feelings of
t ittlerd inn enY
1 ' GRAIO, &my PAM.. ted on' Monday) that the gross-
geed un era n n
are now allaYed. Thereis now a e rg, as, • return to• Parliament (p led by the " grand juries of the
there has been for some,timapast;" between the' %doting amount of presentmenW -nano towns in Ireland for
the yore
b
cities, and ~
of Constantinople and of,Vienna,•antl'it was.h 82'
Iffrdheiaded- : several counties,' 'ad, of wine ,112/. 3i. ild- were
y thateepon the whale, it would bit:better thee':-this ' ; 1851* was ;944,9.241. 3 2 i
gly i20,034c,'10. 4 }id. were repiOnents.
mats of correspondence • hioit-wiCltankh& with.painful 7:forpolic-chikrities,
_... _ . .
,• Ti ' l' of advcea to qinerrullym" . :. - :,, , ,
. , _ an- -- -

recollections of the past, and -might revive feelings now
hsppily allayed, should not he again brought under the
notice of the country, and painfully obtruded upon the
consideration of Europe. But .after ,the appeal which
has been made to us by the Noble Lord—and especially
-afpr-the observations of the Noble Lord the Member
• far Tiverton, and after the statement on his part, which
would lead the House to suppose that we were preventing
the, publication of documents that are necessary to- the
vindication of his pclley—l can assure the Noble Lord
.that I shall pot persist in my opposition.—(Hear.) ape
have no rpersonal • feeling in She, mittert, and, in trtith,
.01,first impreisioa watt that he- publication of thesetio-
e-dments would be disagreeable and inconvenient to the
.Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton and the Noble
L)ed•opposite (Lord Johnauesell). Bag these Noble
Lords think that the documents tend to their,honour,-
\sod-to the vindication of their polity, I have no farther
Qujentiou„,—(Hear, hear.) -
JOIINRUSSELL—I aO2 very glad to hosr-the
"Right Boa:Gentleman say he- will accede to the moalon.
xfy opinionds that it,was•not only right in •the Noble.
Lord' the-Member for Tiverton to make tke represents-
.dens hirditi on this subject; but I consider that it was
sti honour to this country to take the part it did -take in
referenee to these _refugees. We did not think it Was
certsistent with our duty,. or with the policy ,of this
country; to take part With•the war in Hungary.—(lLar,
near,) Bat when they tied ,to take refuge in Turkey,
44d: when Turkey. was „disposed to.accord to them h 05.71,
?itality, and, after a, proper time to.allow them to pro..
(teed to other countries, we thought it right thst the
lupport of this country should begiven to enablel'urkey
to carry-oat these views. I always thought it redounded
w the honour of :ibis :country to have taken this part,
and any , 4m:talents which will show the manner in
which these _representations were •made, and how.
•-larnestlY, tlaea‘Toble Lord repeated his assurances of.
support to`,.Turkey, think, ought to he given, so that.
the country may see that we at least maintained the
'prineiPles ay justice and of hospitality.—(Hear, hear.),
Themotion Was then agreed to. .
The appointment of the Committee on India was
postponed till Thursday.
The Stock in Trade Bill was read a second time.
The House then adjourned at a Quarter past Nine
o'clock.

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