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He was one of the attesting witnesses
July, 1860. The signature was that of Ft L.,
and was signed in witness's presence. He
what became of the will afterwards. He also witnessed the)
signature to the codicil. On both occasions Father Hut-
chinson was in full possession of his reasoning powers, and
was so during the whole time witness knew him. As one
of the " deputies" Father Hutchinson was consulted on the
business of the Oratory. The Oratory was a society of
secular persons living in community. It was, he believed,
the only religious order in which no vows were taken by the
priesthood. There was no vow of poverty or obedience.
The members were entitled to withdraw at pleasure. They
all contributed a small annual sum by way of commons.
Except in that respect, they had the entire control of their
Own property. Any questions with regard to the common
property of the society was decided by a majority of the
votes of the members. The deputies of the order were
elected at triennial elections. The congregation could dis-
solve themselves. The father was also elected every three
years. ' Witness never influenet,d the testator in the dispo-
sition of his property, nor did he know the contents of the
will when he witnessed the execution.
Cross-examined--The will was executed at the Oratory,
at Brompton. Father Rowe, the other witness, and myselfwere the only persons present except the deceased. Father
Hutchinson sent for me, I think I and Father Rowe went
into his room together. Father Hutchinson's hand was
steady. (The will was handed to witness ) There is
something like an eraeure in the will, but it may have been
produced by a thick pen. The colour of the ink is darker
in the deceased's signature than in the signature of the
witnesses, but not considerably. It does not at all follow.
that they were written in different ink. The codicil wars
executed at St. Mary's, Sydenhara. The testator asked me
to witness it, Father Stanton was present. The testator
first asked me to copy the codicil, as there was a mistake
in the one the solicitor had sent him, and I did so in another
room. The codicil executed is in my handwriting. Father
Faber was not present at the execution, but he was in the
house. In 1355 I noticed a considerable difference in the
deceased's health. His speech became partially affected
at that time. His mouth was partly drawn aside, but his
walk was not affected. Afterwards his speech became
more affected. He left cff preaching in 1855, in conse-
quence of the defect in his articulation and his general
ill health. His walk was not materially .affected until
ha returned from the East in :1858. There was a kind
of roll in his walk. He was not absolutely inarticulate
until his death, but he had a difficulty inepronouncing his
words. We dined together at the Oratory. He had also a
difficult in swallowing. I noticed this in 1856, and it in-
creased. He complained often of pains in the back of his
head. We enter into no engagements when we enter the
Oratory. As long as you are in the house you have tee
attend to certain regulations, There is only one set of regu-
lations. «e do not sign them, but merely assent to them.
There is no form of assenting to them. After admission
there is a religious ceremony, but quite different from that
on being admitted to holy orders. The service is in print.
It is read, and we take the part of novices. We are bound
to pay the superior some sort of obedience, and he has to see
that those appointed to offices in the congregation carry
them out. All questions of detail are referred to him. I
should not say he possesses considerable influence over
the members. As a matter of fact Father Faber bad con-
siderable influence over the members, not as superior, but
from his own attributes. There is no mode of enforcing this
obedience. The superior cannot direct penance or mortifica-
tion. He has a moral power, which is exercised through the
feeling of the community that they ought not to disobey
what he commands, Father Hutchinson had a great sense
of the duty of obedience to the superior. I never heard
him say that obedience was the great duty of members of
the Roman Catholic Church. I saw Father Hutchinson last
on the Saturday before his death: In 1860 his bodily ill-
ness was very great. I don't think that extreme unction
was administered to him in that year. It would have beenn,
the duty of the superior to have administered it.
Re-examined by Mr. Coleridge—Though Father Hutch-
inson had strong convictions on the subject of obedience,
he exercised an independent opinion, Father Faber was a
man of considerable abilities and distinction, remarkably
pleasing in his manners, and very much beloved by those
who knew him in both religions. I have myself been in a
conveyancer's office. Blotting-paper makes a difference in
the appearance of ink. We signed last, and if the blotting-
paper had been in our signatures they would probably be
rather different in colour from the signature of the deceased.
Sir H. Holland said, in 1857, he met Mr. Hutchinson. at
Mount Carmel, while travelling in the East, and was with
him for about 14 days. They travelled together, and for
seven or eight days they were stationary at Jerusalem.
With regard to intelligence, Mr. Hutchinson was perfectly
competent. The only complaint for which he consulted
him was a swelling of the larynx, which affected his voice,
and he did not observe any sign of paralysis.
The Judge Ordinary said ho thought that evidence as
to the state of the deceased in 1857 was immaterial.
The further hearing of the case was then adjourned.

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