The Sun.
London, England, 1852-01-05 00:00:00

APPOINTMENTS.

WOOLWICH. JAN. 3.—Lieutenants—Henry Her-
vey (1847), flag-lieutenant to Admiral-Superinten-
tendent Harvey, from the Ceylon to the Hercules, 10,
receiving-ship at Malta.
The Fury steam-sloop, Commander Edward
Tatham, is ordered to proceed down the river on Mon-
day to try her engines, and, in the event of their being
found in good order, she will proceed round to De-
vonport to be paid wages in advance, and leave for
the Mediterranean station.

SEABORNE MAILS
[l7 signifies that the mails are sent from the General Post-office
by the night—and M by the morning—dispatch.]

When made up in From what When
PLACES. General Poet-office port dis- due.
London. patched.
America (by Brit. pkt.) N Jan 9 .. ‘.lLiverpool .. Jan. 5
America (by U.S. pkt.) N Jan. 6 .. .. Liverpool Jan 21
America (by U.S. pkt.) MI Southampt. Jan. 9
Africa (West coast).. Nil4th of the month Plymouth Jan. 3
Alexandria* • • ...... Ni 19th & 30th of mo. Dover .. Jan. ; 8
Belgium .. .. Dover .. Daily
Brazil .. . Ml9th of the month Southampt. Jan. 16
Buenos Ayres M 9th of the month Southampt. Jan. 16
California(viaChagres)M 2d & 17th of month Southampt. Jan. 5
Cape of Good Hope N 14th of month (Plymouth.. Jan. 3
Constantinople* .... N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover .. Jan. 10
Central America .. M2d & 17th of men. Southampt. Jan. 5
Channel Isles .. N Mon., Wed., &Fri. Southampt. Tn. Th. Sat
Chili .. 567th of the month Southampt. Jan. 20
France M&N Twice daily .. .. Dover .. Twicedaily
Greece* .. N 7th 17th 27th of mo Dover • • Jan. 10
aamburSh N Tuesday & Friday London .. Toes. Sat.
Holland .. • MlWednes. & Satnr. London .. Mon. Thur
Honduras . N 17th of the month Southampt. Jan. 20
Ireland .. M& N Twice daily .. Holyhead .. Twicedaily
India (via Sonthamp.) M 20th of the month Southampt. Jan, 23
India (via Marseilles) N sth& 24th ofmonth Dover • • Jan. 18
Mediterranean (via
Southampton) .. M 20th of the month Southampt. Jan. 23
Mediterranean (via
Marseilles) N Bth& 24th ofmonth Dover • . !Jan. 18
Mexico .. M2d of the month.. Southampt. !Jan. 5
Madeira • • .. M 9th of the month Southampt. !Jan. 16
17th,17th,19tk,27th Dover Jan. 10
Malta*
& 30th of month
Naples. N sth 15th 25th ofme Dover • Jan. 12
Papal States* N sth 15th 25th of mo Dover .. Jan. 12
Peninsular.. • • .. M 7th 17th 27th of mo Southampt. !Jan. 6
Peru .. • • Mll7th of the month Southampt. ),Jan. 20
Tuscany* N sth 15th 25 th ofmo Dover • • Jan. 12
West Indies • • .. Mi 17th Of the month Southampt. !Jan. 20
West Indies (except
Havana & Nassau) 24,2 d of the month .. Southampt. !Jan. 6
• * The mails to those countries thus marked (0) are conveyed by
French packet via Marseilles
The direct Havre mail from London via Southampton during this
Month will be made.up three times a week only, instead of daily.
CiLIFOIINIA.—MaIIs to and from California, via the United states
are now despatched and due by evory American packs

THE MASTER ENGINEERS AND THE
AMALGAMATED SOCIETY.
On Saturday, in pursuance of the resolutions ar-
rived at and made public by the large employers of
Manchester and London, notices were almost univer-
sally posted at the respective engine factories, that in
consequence of the recent proceedings on the part of
the men, their works would be closed on Saturday
next, the 10th inst. This is the only step at present
taken by the masters, only a few men having as yet
been discharged for refusing to work over-time. But
the effect of this determination on the part of the mas-
ters will be to throw out of employment about 3,500
members of the Amalgamated Society. Consequent
upon this, however, and assuming that other machi •
nists cannot be secured, a much larger number of
other persons must be deprived of their means of sub-
sistence. Taking into the calculation moulders,
boiler-makers, carpenters, brass moulders, copper-
smiths, painters, trimmers, unskilled labourers, and
apprentices, not less than 20,000 men will be depen-
dent on this coup critat. In Lancashire, it is esti-
mated by the masters that 10,000 hands will be
thrown out of employ, in addition to the members
of the Amalgamated Society, in that county alone ;
and it is not unreasonable to double that number
when London is included.

The boiler-makers throughout the country number
about 3,000 or 4,000, and the moulders nearly 5,000.
The moulders have hitherto taken no part in the pro-
ceedings of the Amalgamated Society, nor were any
of their body members of it. However, they con-
vened a meeting on Saturday night in London, at
which a proposition was thrown out and adopted, sub-
ject to the approval of their brethren, not to, return
to their labouX Ofter the 10th, if thendinitarged,

without being compensated for their loss of time from
that period until their re-enpgement.
On Saturday a proposition was made to the Exe-
cutive Council, to the effect that if the Amalgamated
Society would invest 10,0001. of its funds in tools,
any amount of capital would be forthcoming, it ne-
cessary, to enable the men, when formed into a new
society, to undertake any amount of work which might
be desired. In consequence of this proposition, coming,
as the reporter was informed, from a responsible
capitalist, a meeting of the Executive Council was
held last night in Little Alie-street, at which a reso-
lution was passed to the followirg effect :
" This inasmuch as the employers have refused to do
the work for the public, the members of the Amalga-
mated Society determtn, to undertake it themselves, and
to advertise to the same eff 4.3 t in the public nevvspsp..r,"
At the same meeting it was intimated that the
masters had thrown out hints that they were desirous
of receiving a deputation from the men, and it was re-
solved that should the masters' association acquaint
them with their desire to receive a deputation, such a
deputation would be immediately appointed.
Messrs Ransome and Ally have issued a circular
to the men, in which they express their decided op-
position to the principle of systematicover-time, which
they describe as being as injurious to the master as to
the man.

By the 231 rule of the Arnalg-imated Society, all
the members of the society which may be thrown out
of employment by this move are entitled to receive
15s. a-week. It is not intended, however, to draw
upon the deposited fund of 25 0001. to support the
3,500 members of their soci, ty who will be thrown
out, but to levy a special rate upon those members
who remain iu employ.