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the house should understand clearly that they are not in
L any way cornnaNed to any approbation of the conduct of her
Majesty's Ministers in these matters. I think, however,
that the time has now arrived when some opinion of the•
house ought to be given. (Cheers and counter cheers.)
Z.
myself, although five months have elapsed since the permce
t at which, as it now appears, that opinion might conveni
ently and properly have been taken, do not regret the de-
lays which have been occasioned, because they were flees"
• sionel by feelings on both sides of the house whicn
honour to the House of Commons. I have always thought.
• that one of the principal reasons why the House of Com
L mons has been successful in its practical character, and so
1 marked out from all other popular assemblies, may be found
i in the respect which it entertains for the prerogative of the
Crown and for the functions of constitutional Ministers
• therefore I think the course which wo then pursued «£ls a•
wise, a temperate, and a patriotic course. At the same time
I must say it is my opinion that we should forfeit all claims.
' to the respect of our countrymen, and not fulfil one of the
highest functions of Parliament, if in the present ertical
position of affairs we hesitated to give our opinions ti:P°l2*
the conduct of her Majesty's Ministers in this resPect'
(Opposition cheers.) Having said so much on several oc-
casions, I must now say that it is my intention on an early
—I will say on the earliest—occasion, to take the opinion of
the house on that question. (Renewed cheers and counter
cheers.) I daresay I shall find no difficulty raised by thE)
noble lord (Palmerston) in fixing upon a period which 1-
may think most convenient. I should have said no wore,
had it not been for the closing observation of the noble lord,.
which it appears to me ought not to pass unnoticed. (Heer.)
I must say I heard them with astonishment. Are we, then,
to be taught to .night by the noble lord that it is the islands
of Denmark alone that are necessary to the independence
of that country ? Then why is it we have been com-
mitted to a policy which has so long and so pertina-
ciously declared that the possession of Schleswig and Hol-
stein by the crown of Denmark were necessary to the balance
of power, and to the maintenance of the public law of
Europe ? (Cheers.) It is too much for us now to hear, un-
der those circumstances, that war may be impending at any
moment, and that Parliament, which is soon to be pro
rogued, may be suddenly called together again, because the
noble lord and his colleagues, who for a considerable period
have been defining the grounds upon which the balance of
power and the maintenance of the public law of Europe
alone depend, and ought to be advocated, now at the last
moment find, while he recedes from the vital conclusion,
that possibly a smaller issue may arise which in the interval
may agitate Europe and disturb and distract the public
mind. I must say I can only, after the experience we have
had on this subject—and it is some consolation to adopt
that view of the question—look upon this as a continuance
of those senseless and spiritless menaces—(hear, hear) --
which have lately impaired the influence of this country in
the councils of Europe, and, by impairing that just influ-
ence of this country in the councils of Europe had really
diminished the most effective means of maintaining peace.
(Cheers.) I think the noble lord might have spared that
contingent menace to the house, to the country, and to
Europe. Judging from the past, I myself would prefer that
the affairs of this country should be conducted on the prin-
ciple avowed by the hon. members for Rochdale and Bir-
mingham, than by the policy which is avowed and an-
nounced by the noble lord (Palmerston). I think in that
ease, as the conclusion of those hon. members is always
the same, our position would be more consistent, more pro-
fitable, and more really dignified, for at least they would not
threaten only—(hear)---at least, they would not tell Den-
mark that "if she is attacked, she will not find herself
alone"—(cbeers)--at least, they would not exasperate Ger-
many by declaiming in the Parliament of England against
the aggravated outrages of her policy—at least they would
not lure on Denmark by delusive counsels and fallacious
hopes. (Hear, hear.) I declare that, in my opinion, the
position of England would be more dignified if the policy,
which those hon. gentlemen profess conducted our affairs
rather than the policy,which the noble lord professes. Have
we not, indeed. for months upon months, been menacing
almost every country in the world; and yet when we think:
that we have at last secured the blessings of peace, and
when we pass over the gloomy narrative of those disap-
pointments and discomfiturea which we have received this
evening, that at last we are in an intelligible position, and
might enj ay what some may consider to have been purchased
at great cost, but which was really and clearly to result in
the possession of peace—we are at the same time not merely
to have that announcement accompanied by the continua-
tion of those unsatisfactory menaces, but absolutely at this
moment the whole country is to be agitated with the possi -
bility of Parliament being called suddenly together, in order
that the noble lord may commence a policy of action which,
if it were justified and called for, ought to have been com-
menced long ago. (Opposition cheers.) I trust that these
questions will be entered into fully and completely. When
I listened to the narrative which the noble lord has favoured
us with of these transactions, of the continued sacrifices of
Denmark, and of the continued approaches of the enemies
of Denmark, I was not surprised to find that the nable lord
entirely omitted any notice of the inducements which had
made Denmark submit to those sacrifices. or of the menaces
to the aggressive Powers which have always been treated
with contempt. I should like to have had, when the precis
of the proceedings was given by the First Minister, some
account of the causes of the dreary consequences which he
narrated. We shall soon have an opportunity of entering
into that matter. I expect from the courteous promise of
the noble lord that he will make no difficulties with respect
to the day when I shall venture to ask the opinion of the
house upon the policy of the Government, and I will take
care that no unnecessary delay occurs before I avail myself
of that opportunity. (Cheers.)
The motion was then agreed to.
THE ANNUITY TO THE KING OF GREECE.

On the or;:er for going into Committee of Supply,

Mr AYRTON moved a resolution that the grant to the
King of Greece of an annuity of 4000 out of the moneys
belonging to the Consolidated Fund by treaty not made
subject to the sanction of Parliament, is a violation of the
privileges of the House of Commons.
Upon an explanation by the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER, he withdrew the motion.

Mr M. SMITH called attention to the buildings and sheds
used for the superier courts of law and equity, and the
inadequate accommodation afforded by them ; and also to
the delay on the part of the Government to introduce their
promised measure for providing new courts of justice.
A discussion followed, in which the ATTORNEY GENERAL
and Mr COwPER indicated the views and intentions of the
Government on the subject.

Mr ADDERLEY, who had given notice of a resolution
that it is inexpedient that detachments of British troops
should be stationed upon exposed posts on the Canadian
frontier unless adequately supported by Canadian forces,
discussed at considerable length the policy pursued towards
Canada.

Mr CARD WELL concurred in the proposition contained
in Mr Adderley's resolution, and agreed in many of his
oh,ervations. lie stated the changes made in Canada, esre-
cially with reference to the militia, the training of officers,
and the preliminary arrangements for the organisation of a
good defensive native force.

Some remarks by Lord R, CECIL upon the danger to
which Canada was exposed were answered by Mr C.
FORTESCUE, who stated that preparations had been made
and were making to meet future danger.
Mr CAVE called attention to the conduct of the Cus-
toms authorities of the United States at New York in
refusing clearances to British ships engaged in legitimate
trade between that port and Jamaica, except upon the
most onerous and unusual conditions ; and asked whether
instructions would not be sent to Lord Lyons to protest
against such proceedings.
Mr LAYARD said the conditions referred to were be-
yond the competency of the United States to impose;
protests had already been made, and the subject would
not be lost sight of.

Col. DUNNE called attention to the subject of recruit-
ing far the army, and to the causes of the unwillingness
of men to enlist, which created a difficulty, he said, in
keeping up the numbers of the troops. He noticed some of
the causes which he considered to be removable, and sug-
gested the encouragements that should be given.
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said he was very glad
that this subject had been brought before the house, be-
cause a very considerable amount of misapprehension ex-
isted regarding it. As to the falling off in recruiting, very
little recruiting had been necessary, and the recruiting ma-
chinery Ind been lately disused. The number of men re-
cruited had been, however, sufficient to meet the wants of
the year. He thought it unnecessary, therefore, to discuss
the reasons which prevented men from enlisting, for there
was no present want of men.

The house was at length able to go into a Committee of
Supply upon the remaining Civil Service Estimates, the
discussion of which lasted till past midnight.
The report of the Inland Revenue (Stamp Duties) Bill
gave rise to a short debate.
The Chimney-sweepers' Regulation Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The Greek Loan Bill passed the Committee, after much
discussion.

The remaining orders were disposed of, and the house
adjourned at a quarter pest 2 o'clock.

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