The Sun.
London, England, 1864-06-22 00:00:00

spirit of kindness and forbearance—not a rash interference
between landlord and tenant.
Mr WHITESIDE referred the present condition of Ire-
land to the effects of past legislation and the repeal of the
corn laws, and thought there was nothing extravagant in
a resolution asking the Government to direct their atten-
tion to the subjeet.
The discussion was continged by Mr Blake, Mr P.
Urquhart, and Sir F. Heygate.
Sir G. BOWYER said that as an Irish member and an

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English landlord he had taken a great deal of trouble to
understand the question, and always felt at a loss to under-
stand the conduct of Irish landlords. An English landlord,
when a farm fell vacant, put all the buildings into thorough
and tenantable repair, knowing very well that unless he
did so he might get a tenant, but not a first-rate one, and
that his rent would be uncertain. English landlords sup-
plied the tiles for draining purposes, and expected the tenants
to put them in; and in case a tenant grubbled up waste land
he was allowed to hold it for a certain time without increase
of rent, and after he had obtained fair remuneration for
his outlay the proper increase in his rent was determined
by valuation. He felt sure that if Irish proprietors dealt
in a similar spirit with those holding under them they
would have a happier and more contented tenantry to
deal with. The reason why a similar system was not pur-
sued in Ireland he did not know, and he had never been
able to find out. If they persisted in neglecting to do what
was just, the Legislature, in his opinion, ought to
step in and compel them to deal more satisfactorily with
their tenants. • When the tenant-right agitation was in full
strength he had never agreed with the notions of its leading
advocates, knowing that the views of law which they put
forward had no warrant in the history of any country, and
were not countenanced by any legal authority. They ad-
vanced the doctrine of emphyteusis, misinterpreted portions
of the civil law, and constructed a theory of mutua: rights
in the soil to which the only thing at all like a parallel was
found in India, where it had been productive of endless mis-
chief. At that time feelings were so violently excited that
the advocates of tenant-right could not be reasoned with.
At present there was no violent agitation in Ireland, and
advantage ought to be taker of the prevailing calm honestly
and usefully to grapple vita the difficulty. It was very
well to tell people that in America they would be better off.
The heartrending scenes vitnessed on their departure
showed that they left unwil ingly--(hear, hear)—they felt
there was no place like home, and their right to live in their
own country could not be disputed. It was, therefore, with
deep regret that he learnt there was a common practice of
dispossessing tenants at the end of their term without any
compensation for improvements, and of setting up their
holdings to auction. (Loud cries of " no," from the Oppo-
sition benches.) He was certain such was not the case, in
the districts of which hon. members had cognizance, but he
knew that the practice prevailed to a formidable extent.

Lord PALME RETON said he hoped Mr Hennessy
would be content with the discussion, and not press the
motion to a division, No doubt, it was very much to be
lamented that causes existed which drove a large mass of
the people of Ireland to emigrate from their native land;
but if they went to a country where they feund themselves
better off than in thei7 own, the change on their account
could not be regretted, and it would be unkind to prevent
their emigration, which flowed to this country as well as to
America. It was im?ossible by legislation to alter the laws
that regulate human society. He moved the previous
question.

Mr WALPOLE recommended Mr Hennessy to withdraw
the motion.

Mr HENNESSY declining to withdraw his resolution,
Sir G. GREY coved as an amendment the previous
question, which was seconded by Mr CARDWELL,
Mr WALPOLE had never heard an Irish debate con-
ducted with more ability, and with more careful investi-
gation, from both sides of the house. He trusted, there-
fore, that the effect of the debate would not be injured
by a division.

After a few worts from Mr Monsell, Mr Lefroy, Mr
Hennessy, Mr Estncnd, and Mr J. Butt,
The house divided, The numbers were—
For the in evict's question
Against it ,
Majority —3B

The motion was not therefore put. vv
Sir F. SMITH Roved an address to her Majesty to
direct an inquiry int) the condition as to pay and allow-
ances of the regimeltal quartermasters of her Majesty's
service, with a view to place these officers, should it seem
expedient, on a better footing.

After some remarks by the Marquis of HARTINGTON,
the motion was witadrawn.

The orders of th) day were then proceeded with, certain
bills were forwardel, and, the remaining business having
been disposed of, de house adjourned.

CITY SEWERS COMMISSION,

Yesterday a meet ng of the Commissioners of Sewers of
the City of London was held at Guildhall, under the presi-
dency of Henry De Jersey, Esq., Deputy.