The Sun.
London, England, 1852-03-16 00:00:00

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-Ireland in that year-were-7,776,000-4-euarters, and in the last
year only 1,100,000 quarters. There were hard upon
3,000,000 of quarters less grown last year in the United
Kingdom than there wile the year before. Let theni dissolve
if they dare. He had no fear for the•. result.
Sir A. COCKBURN. said he would not toilets, the Hon. '
Gentleman who had just sat down. He would for a few
moments address himself to the question before the
House, which was protection on the one aide, and free
trade on the other. It was clear, from the temper of the
House, and from the turn the debate had taken. that an
immediate appeal to the country was inevitable. The ques-
tion that had been put to the Right Hon. Gentleman (the
Chancellor of the,
_Excliequer), by; hie. Hon. and Learped.
Friend was a very simple one, and ought to have been fairly
answered by . the, Right Hon. Gentleman.; and" the Right
Hon. Gentleman set out with a statement that, he would,
give a frank answer to the question, yet he gave no such an-
swer, for up to that moment the Government did not say
what would be theite policy. They, in point of fact, had can
policy, and were placing themselves in a humiliating and
degrading situation•—(Laughter.) Yes, he repeated it, that
the Government who went to the country without any fixed
principles, of policy it was placing itself in a humiliating
and degraded position before the country.—(Hear, and a
laugh.) It was due to the country that the Government
should say what its policy was. Tne Home Secretary, who
was more ingenuous than the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
said that they were not going to chaitge the existing policy
of the country as regarded free trade; but that they were
only going to modify it !—(A laugh.) 'What did his Right
Hon. Friend mean by modification?, He contended it was
the duty of the Government to state frankly what was to be
their policy, and this had not been done. .
Mr. BOOKER said he was satisfied that, however they
might attempt to modify the laws applicable to free trade,
he was sure they must get, ere long, rid of these laws alto-
gether. The Hon. Gentleman read an, extract from a pam-
phlet to show, what he described it to be, the cruel opera-
tions of the free-trade laws in Ireland.
The question was then again put, that the Speaker do
leave the chair, which was agreed to. ' •
SUPPLY—NAVY ESTIMATES.
The House then went into Coniniittee Mr. BERNA in
the chair.
On its being proposed that 33,000 Men be the number of
seamen and marines employed in the service of the navy for
the year 1852-3.
Mr. HUME objected to any vote being taken on the sub-
ject at that late hour (half-past twelve o'clock);
Mr. DISRAELI said if the vote were objected to he really
must have
,quite misunderstood the whole character of the
debate of that evening, for he thought it was the anxious
wish of Hon. Gentlemen opposite to pass all those measures
which the exigencies of the country required as speedily as
_possible.— (Cheers.) Imputations had been bestowed upon
the Government for attempting to introduce other measures.
He, thought, therefore, at all events they would allow the
Government to take those votes which were deemed essential
to the public service. By taking this main vote the Govern-
ment would then endeavour to go on with the Mutiny Bill
which had been so often mentioned during the evening. It,
was in furtherance of the policy which he understood Hon.
Gentlemen opposite had in view, that this vote 'was now
proposed.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that if this vote were passed it
would in effect amount to the passing of the whole of the
navy estimates.
, Mr. HUME feared the Right Hon. Gentleman was begin-
ning wrong.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained
that he did not propose this vote as a rule. It was an ex-
ception that proved the rule; and he thought that in pro-
posing it he was only acting in deference to the general
wishes•of the House.'
Lord J. RUSSELL' said ha willingly agreed to, this vote.
He had never concurred in the rule attempted . to be laid
down by his Hon. Friend, that after a particular hour busi-
ness should not be proceeded with. If there were any obe
jection to state to the number of 39,000 men, of course the
Committee would be ready to hear it; but he did not think
there was any. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor
of the Exchequer had been offered to-night the opinions
of many Members on the expediency of advising the Crown
to a dissolution after the ordinary business should have been
gone through. Before Friday next, when it
.was propo3ed
to go into Committee of Supply, the, Government might re-
consider their determination, concur in the course suggested
that evening, and take such steps as might be necessary,
without proceedi, g with the view of having a protracted

session.
Toe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
Noble Lord only did him justice in supposing that it was
both his duty and his pleasure to listen to the sentiments
expressed by Gentlemen on both sides, and to defer, as much
as possible, to what he considered the predominant feeling.
But he was sure the Noble Lord would not ask him on the
sudden to come to any decision on this subject.—(" Hear,
hear," from Lord John Russell.) He bad watched carefully
the proceedin s.ot that evening; but whea the Noble Lord
said all the Government required to do was to kopose the
measures necessary.
.for the public service, he might be re-
minded that a most important difference had arisen between
distinguished supporters of the Noble Lord upon the ques-
tion as to what measures were necessary and what were
not.—(A laugh.) For example ;the Noble Lord the AlernLer
for Tiverton who was very guarded in his support, de-
scribed as of imminent necessity a measure to establish a
militia force. Immediateiy after, a leading member' of the
resuscitated Anti-Corn-law League denied that con-
clusion; he di t not. look on that important mea-
sure as necessary. While he (the Chancellor,, of,
the Exchequer) readily expressed his wish to consult the
predominant feeling of the House, and to give effect to
what he conceived to be the general sentiments of Honour-
able Members, he thought it desirable, as an interval must
elapse before the subject recurred, that the Noble Lord
should summon his supporters again, and get them to come
to some general agreement on the measures they considered
necessary.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The .Noble Lord,
before lecturing him, and expressing readiness to support
measures of supply which were necessary, but not measures
to waste time, ought to come to an understanding with his
friends on the important question as to what measures were
necessary and what unnecessary.
Lord J. RUSSELL must ,explain that he never said any,
measures brought forward had been so to waste time. But
he thought there were certain measures which it would be
necessary, in the view of a dissolution, to proceed with as
soon as possible. There were otherswhich might be brought
forward, not with the view of wasting time, but of having
the session of the ordinary length, and which were not of an
urgent nature.
' Mr. HTJME had wished, an opportunity of making some
remarks on the distribution of the force to which the vote
rel ited ; but, if Hon. Members were satisfied. he would not
throw any obstacle in the way of taking the vote.
After a few words from Mr. W. WILLIAMS, •

The vote was agreed to.
A vote of 1,469,0541. for wages of seamen and marines, and
naval reserve, having been proposed,
Mr. HUME remarked that, as he understood giving the
vote would facilitate a dissolution—(A
laugh)—he should
not throw any difficulty in the way.
The vote was then agreed to ; AEI WaS also a vote of
606,5781. for victuals to seamen and marines.

The House then resumed. '
The Burghs (Scotland) Bill, the Charitable Trusts Bill,
and the Copyright Amendment Bill were severally read a
second time.
SUITORS IN CHANCERY RELIEF (STAMP DUTIES,
&c.) BILL.
The following resolutions were, passed in Committee,
and ordered to be reported to-day :
1. That the fees payable on proceedings in the High Court
of Chancery shall be collected by means of stamps.
2. That the following annual salaries shall be payable out
... of the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom of Great
Britain
theand
Llreerldancdh,
Chancellor
say £lO,OOO
To
To each of the Lord Justices of the Court of
Appeal in Chancery ... --• "'
' To the Vice-Chancellor appointed under the
Act 5 Vic., secs. 1, cap. 5 •••
To the Vice-Chancellor appointed under the
Act 14 and 15 Vic., cap. 4 ... ••• 5,000
in lieu of all salaries now payable to such judges respectivly.
able out of
3. m That the yearly suer of 8001. shall be pay
the said Consolidated Fund to the secretary of presentations
and secretary of commissions of the peace.
4. That compensation shall be made out of the said Con-
solidated Fund to the persons holding. certain offices in the
High Court of Chancery, on the abolition of their respective
offices.
The House adjourned at a few minutes before. One o'clock.

ROUSE OF LORDS, March 15.
The LORD CILANCEI,LOR took his scat on the Wool-
sack preci.ely at Five o'clock. At that time there was
an unusually large number of Peers in attendance, and
a large concourse of Peeresses occupied the gallery as-
signed to their accommodation. The Duke of Welling-
ton was in his usual place, the cross bench between. the

woolsack and the bur.
POLICY OF THE GOVERNMENT.
Lord BEAUMONT, in presenting a petition complain,
ing of the injury irlitcted on the country by tho uncer-
tainty which exists as to the intentions of the Govern-
ment respecting the law regarding the importation of
foreign corn, availed himself of the opportunity to put
a question to her Majesty's. Government—whether it is
or is not their intention to recommend to Parliament an
alteration of the present ,policy with respect to the
importation of cern as soon as a new Parliament
could be assembled?—(Hear, hear.) He stated,
as a reason for asking this question, the -great uncer-
tainw under which the country laboured, and-especially
the trading classes, as to what were the intentions of
her Majesty's Ministers in reference to the existing
1
Policyl of free trade in corn. Having brir-fly adverted
sentiments recently expressed by the Noble Earl,
the Fis rt Lord of the Treasury, in this House on the
question of protection on taking . office,
Lord (Lord
on Beaumont) complimented Lord Derby
the consist
Noble Lord at the. head—
sated the
contented himself ofthe. Noble
questione'oY with which he had advo.
that occasion
might C:
whilst in oppnbition 11..0f protection to agriculture
complained, however, of the
the Government having'
merely
that this questionwith stating
the country at some indefinite
to the decision of
taken the mere manly and 'B)trti'
me, instead of having
propounding frankly what the straightforward course of
went were On this all-important fig 3 °f
the Govern-
the event of an adverse- majority
isubject, and in
Commons of making a direct and ' n th® House of
unrsediate appeal to
the country. Had the Noble Lord taken that course, he
(Lord Beaumont) would never have thought it his
duty
to take the step he was now taking.' Re charged the
Noble Lord with an attempt to call upon the country to'
agitate this question with the view of founding some
ulterior measure on that agitation. That was not the
conduct which a true statesman would have pursued,
but was rather that of an - agitator out of doors.
The only construction he (Lord Lleaumont) could put
upon that conduct was that the Noble Lord wished to
raise a quarrel out of doors, in order that he might stand
quietly by and look on. Was not this creating an agi-
tation Out of doors, without there being any prospect of
a settlement of the question in reiliament? There was
the greatest possible confusion sod, difforence on this
matter in the sentiments expressed' by the,inembere of
the Noble Lord's Government on their recent reelec-
tions. The address of the Chandelier of the Exchequer
to the constituency of Buckingham was especially mys-
tical. A "countervailing duty" wa3 frequently referred
to in that Right lion. Gentleman's spe'xi't but. wbether
it- was to be a ss. 'or a 7:r.he wanted nobody
duty
knew.—(A laugh.) Now she that• 3 uniont) (Lord lea .
~
con-
tended that the country was
enAtted to know distinctly,
whether or not it was the-, • nt
intention of the. Uovernme
to propose a fixed duty • of
on the importation
foreign corn. When a 'man entered two horses
for -a race • 'Jac generally. knew wilieu, WM
~ to