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London, England, 1852-06-19 00:00:00

Stockton and Hartlepool and Chrerce Railway and
Hartlepool West Harbour and Dock Companies.
Mancheter, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway (No.
2), with amendments.
SUGAR MANUFACTURE.
Mr. FORBES rose to ti:=lc the President of the Board
of :Oracle whether, if the Patent Law Amendment Bill

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should bl passed in its present state, he will be prepared
to advisa the Crown to withhold the extension of

patents to the sugar colonies u3tlthose interested in
those posession3 have had an opprtunity of expressing
their wishes?

Mr. HENLEY answered that he had deemed it his
duty to offer such advice to the Crown.—(Hear).
SOMERSET HOUSE.
Mr. W. WILLIANIS wished to know if the new
buildings at Som'rset House had been sanctioned by the
House, or if the Noh!e Lord opposite was prepared to
comp down and ask the House to vote the. amount

required for thorn, and had they any estimate of the

exper2R?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
Lhat as the Hon. Member had only given a general no-
tice of his intention to ask for information respecting

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more buildings
thacffiees relinquished would be worth much
(erdeexapr.e)nse incurred by effecting the con-
Mr. HUME wished to ask if the Government bad
followed the recommendations of the Committee with
regard to the residence of the First Naval Lord, and if
they were prepared to carry out, for the sake of economy
and the public service, the removal of the offices, so 53
to bring them all under one roof?
Mr. WILLIAMS said the Right Hon. Gentleman had
not answered the most important part of the question.
He objected to making any outlay of public money
out the sanction of the House, and wanted to know if
the Government had had an estimate of the expense?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied
that of course neither the present nor the late Govern-
ment would have taken such a step without an estimate,
and repeated the statement he made in answer to the
Hon. Member's first question.
Mr. WILLIAMS—I want to know what is the sum.
—(Order, ore:or.) I want to ask—(Cries of " Order,
order," amid which the Hon. Member sat down.)
The subject then dropped.
EDUCATION.
Lord J. RUSSELL gave notice, that, on the report of
the Consolidated Fund Bill, he should bring before the
House the recent minute of the Committee of Privy
Council relative to educational grants. The Noble
Lord afterwards asked when that report would be
brought up?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, as
the Noble Lord wished to make some observations on the
occasion, and the House were always anxious to hear the
Noble Lord, he should propose to bring up the report on
Monday, at six o'clock.
Sir H. VERNEY moved for a copy of the charter of
incorporation of the National Society for Promoting the
Education of the Poor on the principles of the Estab-
lished Church throughout England and Wales.
PETITION FOR PARDON OF THE IRISH EXILES.
Mr. F. FRENCH said as a rumour bad been circu-
lated to the effect that the recent petition praying for
the release of Mr. Smith O'Brien and his fellow
nc pri-
vern d ,
psn ands it
tihonatt oamo
pri-
soners had been got up at the desire of the Irish GO-
mLord the Chief Secretary for Ireland—he wished to ask
that Noble Lord if there was any truth in the report?
accedeng otherst o its whoo object
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thear asted
Lord NAAS begged to assure the Hon. Gentleman
that there was not the slightest foundation for the state-
meat that had been made. He never, directly or indi-
rectly, by word or by letter in public or private, gave
any one the least reason to suppose that he or any
member of the Government were favourable to that me-
morial; furthermore, ho was in no way cognisant of the
preparation of the memorial, except through the accounts
he saw in the public newspapers.—(Hear, hear.) Noble
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THE REV. MR. BENNETT.
On the motion that the House at its rising do adjourn
till Monday,
Mr. lIORSMAN said he should detain the Housh
but a few minutes; but considering the interest they
ell;
hal
felt in the case of the Rev. Mr. Bennett, and the w
advised decision to which they had come, he conceived
it to be his duty at the earliest moment to state the
course he proposed to adopt. It would be better to do
that than to let the motion for a Committee, and the
motions connected with it, to stand on the votes night
after night, so as to make it appear that the subject was
about to die a natural death, and that the interest which
it had excited had abated. Since the vote to which the
House had come he must say that the interest had not
mated but rather increased, nor did he find, in the
opinion of the majority who came to that vote, anything
but a desire to give effect to it. Tho House would feel
the difficulty ho had to deal with in nominating a Com-
mittee so late in the session. It was not his fault that
the discussion had come on at so late a period of the
session. He first brought forward the subject in the
month of April. Seven weeks elapsed, owing to circum-
stances over which he had no control. The decision of the
House was taken on the Bth June, late at night, it being a
Tuesday. On Wednesday be was in the House at twelve
o'clock, and actively employed to get gentlemen to servo
on the Committee. Ho obtained the names of thirteen
gentlemen that day. Tile name of the Right Hon!
Gentleman the Member for the University of Oxford
was placed on the Committee without his permission
being asked, as it was considered that he had acted a 3
the authorised advocate of the Bishop of Bath
adt
Wells, and if he refused his consent it was thought rh
for the
The Hon. and Learned Gentleman the Member
his reasons for doing so should be stated to the House.
city of Oxford would not consent to serve; butt at.
air.
was then nearly six o'clock, and it was imp fir.
;.
the Committee should be nomiaated that day, he Orr
the understanding that it would bo withdrawn before
lloraman)
asked him to allow his name to remain,oorne
any evidence was taken and another name substituted.
Fourteen Members agreed to serve; two of whom were
struck out, and others substituted by
ay,
the Governmehad
nt
He stated this in order to show that every p
in.
been taken to nominate the Committee. On the Thurs-
' when ho moved for the Committee, a difficulty was
s
oay,
started by the Right Honourable Gentleman the
Secretary, who said this was too grave an inqury to
Homei
bo conducted by an imperfect Committee. U 0
(Mr. Horsenan) did not find fault with him
for it; but, while the matter was proceeding,
an
Honourable and Gallant Member, who was a friend ot.
Mr. Bennett broke up the discussion, by moving the ad
the Coin-
the list to the number of 15. In nominating
de on the part of
journment of the House. On the Monday,. he completed
mittee, he had found no difficulty ma
it,
and divided against
inquiry, spoken against
had opposed the
the Government, though they
there was no disposition on their part to imped
0
it; but, when the decision went against them,
the nomination of the Committee. But a difficulty was
interposed by the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member
for the University of Oxford. He proposed that after
the Committee had been nominated that he (Mr. Hors-
man) should be ordered by the House to lay on the table
certain articles or heads of charges. The Government
was ready to allow him to proceed with the nomination
of the Committee provided there was not to be a long
debate, which he (Mr. Horsman) did not propose,
tho Right Hon. Gentleman told the House that he should
not only propose an amendment, but that he should
make a long speech, and the House made its arrange:
meats accordingly. The Government in the state or
public business declined to give way; as there were 35
orders on the papers the discussion must have come on so
late in the evening that it would have been impossible
.to
nominate the Committee. It was his duty to exPlalut
why he had not agreed to the suggestion of the Rig"
H on. Gentleman, which would have enabled him toehelt
had the Committee cppointod.—(Hear, bear.) 1 'e
that he, as an individual Member of the House, had po
right or power to do so. There was no precedent for
laying on the table heads or articles of charges in a
Son.
where no impeachment was intended. The Right.ni.
Gentleman would not deny that except in cases of
eaendien
peachment avowed and intended there was no preositiont
icr such a course. In that case what did the p
of the majority
motion hod been made and the clehecEnise
Int of the Bishop of
of the Right Hon. Gentleman amounton othiseutrotnat the
given, with a view to the im
d garded, but had nor ight
(Mr. Horsman)might
have
gentlemen who composed the majority
to commit the 156
tended the impeachment of the
Bath and Wells? That coniPesert3reuction of the motion he
to the fact that they
He had no right to do so
concurrence. He believed that of the
without their oted in the - •
majority not One
156 Members who v
the Bishop
wishedbe toimpeached,.and it would
unjust for him, in his individual capacity,
Bishop of Bath and
have been h
a cour
to commit them to suc se. So far as he was per-
saeally concerned, the drawing up heads of impeach-
ment would have very much facilitated his object. In-
deed, after the Right Hon. Gentleman suggested that
course ho did draw them up, and had it been the plea-
sure of the House he should have immediately presented
them, but he felt that ho could not do so without th°
concurrence of those who voted with him. Another
reason why he did not do so was that it would in his
opinion have established a bad precedent. If it had once
been settled that a complaint was not to be made against
a bishop without being followed by impeachment the re:
suit would have been most injurious; and if in the nett
Parliament a Member had brought a complaint again°,
the Bishop of London, the Bishop of Exeter, or ae?„
other prelate, he might have been stopped at once by an
inquiry whether he meant to propose an impeachrer_i,
He had told the Right Honourable Gentleman
ante,:
whetcver might be the decision of the House, he we
stn
cheerfully assent to it; but, considering the sled,'
of public business, considering that there was
probability that he would have. the opportunity
three
having regard also to the difticultihs
or four days, and
in his way, he did not feel it his
nominating his Cemmittee the next th.
which had been thrown
t near,
in tilting that unnouncement he felt the
hear.) But en _ n
duty to move the nomination of the Committee.—e— t
he owed some explanation to the Hon. Gentleme
had voted for inquiry, as regarded the false position
it!
which theY were placed with regard to the Bishop
n
Bath an 039 Zenl9ll:
d well& The House would recollect that he
stated the Bishop delayed in procceclizgo Q