The Sun.
London, England, 1864-03-15 00:00:00

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THE CASE OF THE AEEXANDILk-THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

V. SILLEM AND OTHERS.
Present :—The Lord Chancellor, Lard Cranworth, Lord
St. Leonard's, Lord Kingsdown, Lord Chelmsford, and
Lord Wenslydale.
The Attorney,•Gleneral in replying upon the whole case,
contended that the rules which had been drawn up by
the Chancellor of the Exchequer on which the appeal
was founded, were is strict accordance with the
Queen's Remerabrancer's Act and the Common Law
Procedure Act. The 26th section of the Queen's Remem-
brancer Act, he maintained, was framed expressly for the
purpose of giving a power of appeal, and quoted many high
legal authorities in support of that view. He pointed out
that Parliament would not have been likely to make laws
respecting the Court of Exchequer in the way contended fo
by the defendants in this case.

Lord Wensleydale said it was clearly competent for Par-
liament to make these laws if it pleased.
The Attorney-General said it was doubtless in the power
of Parliament to make any laws it pleased, and
he had not intended to Bay anything about the
competency of Parliament in that respect, but surely Par-
liament, if it pleased, was competent to give power. He
claimed to the Chancellor of the ExchE quer the power
given under the 26th section, with regard to error. The
learned gentleman was arguing on the subject of the pro-
babilities
of the legislature.

The Lord Chanc;llar said the probabilities or improbabi-
lities, unless they influenced construction, wcre matters
with which their lordships had nothing to do. The two
cardinal points were the extent and meaning of the word
practice in the 26th sec.; and, second, the point which had
been raised in reference to the retrospective operation of the
rules which had been made by the Barons of the Exchequer.
The Attorney-General was proceeding to reply, when we
went to press.

LAW INTELLIGENCE—This Day,

COURT OF BANKRUPTCY.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Holroyd.)
IN RE T. DOBSON.
This bankrupt was a wine merchant in Nicholas-lans
and Kingston-on-Hull, and was one of the trustees under
the est%to of Z. C. Pearson, the extensive shipowner at
Hull.

Assignees were chosen a few days since, but subsequently
,the creditors held a meeting, at which a resolution was
passed for winding up the affairs out of court.
Mr. Brandon appeared for several creditors, and said that
Mr. Registrar Brougham had reported in favour of the
resolution, but it was necessary that there should be a
formal order for the stay of proceedings pending the com-
pletion of the deed of arrangement.
After hearing Mr. Kearsey for creditors, and Mr. Hack-
wood (Linklater and Hackwood) for bankrupt,
His Honour granted the order.

There was a very long list of first examinations, but no
thing of interest transpired.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE—This Day.
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Business done
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MARLBOROUGH-STREET.

OBTAINING MONEY BY MEANS OF A FORGED ORDER.
—John Watson, charged with obtaining the sum of
£l7los. from Mr. John Diokenson Betts, grocer, of Oxford-
street, by means of a forged order on the London and West-
minstcr Bank, was again brought before Mr. Tyrwhitt.
The prisoner, it may be remarked, presented a cheque for
£l7 108, to Mr. Woollens, in the employ of Mr. Betts,
stating that he had coma from Mr. Ball, of Duke-street,
Urosvenor-square, a customer, and Mr. Woollens believing
the cheque which was signed " Bateman" to be genuine,
gave him the money and then detained him, and went to
Mr. Ball and ascertained that he had not sent the prisoner.
A clerk from the London and Westminster Bank now at-
tended, and said that Lord Bateman had an account at the
Bank, but that the signature to the cheque was not his
lordship's, nor anything like it.
Mr. Woollens said he wished to state that they had got
all the money back from the prisoner.
After Mr. Tyrwhitt had cautioned the prisoner,
The prisoner said he had nothing to say.
Mr. Tyrwhitt committed him for trial.
A JUVENILE GAMBLER AND THlEF.—William Knott,
a boy, was charged before Mr. Tyrwhitt with gambling in
the streets.

Sergeant Thomas Jeater, 4 C, deposed that about five
o'clock yesterday afternoon he saw the prisoner with several
other boys gambling with halfpence near Newport-market.
He took the prisoner into oustody, but the other boys ma-
naged to escape.

Mr. Tyrwhitt asked whether there wore many complaints
of he boys, and the sergeant said there were. It is near
the Mission-house, and a gentleman connected with it pro-
mised to attend, but had not done so.

Mr. Hoary Robert Wilson, of Cranbourne-street, hosier,
&c., said that some time ago three lads, the prisoner being
the ringleader, robbed him of a quantity of scarfs. The
prisoner managed to get away, but two others were charged
with the robbery, and convicted, The prisoner was a pest
to the neighbourhood.
Mr. Tyrwhitt fined the boy 40s. or a month.

THAMES.
EXTRAORDINARY CASE OF STABEING.—HOILItiCII GLIM'
meir, a sugar baker, was brought before Mr. Paget for the
seventh time, charged with stabbing John Bryan, on the
night of Saturday, the 6th of February last.
Mr. Partridge took the deposition of the wounded man
at the London Hospital, on Saturday, the 27th of February,
and in the presence of the prisoner, who is a German and
has only recently left his native country. Faint hopes
were then entertained of Bryan's recovery. He identified
Guldmeir as the person who stabbed him with a knife
in the right shoulder in the Cannon-street road, on the
night of the 7th ultimo. Several witnesses hate
also given evidence, and stated that they saw Bryan
stabbed by the German, but the origin of the quarrel
has not been divulged. Bryan is a notoriously bad charac-
ter and has been frequently in cuAody, and it is supposed
that he gave the German some considerable provocation.
The wound was a very severe one, Out it has been nearly
healed, and it is believed the patient would be likely to
recover, if a disease of a formidable nature had not super-
vened. Bryan has for a long time been a very dissipated
and drunken man, and soon after his admission to the hos-
pital "blood poisoning" occurred, and ho is now being
treated for that disease.

Inspector Roberts, of the K division, said ho had seen
Bryan in the hospital this morning., He was in a very low
state, but Mr. Hunter, tho house surgeon, said he might
recover, and handed to him the following certificate :
" London Hospital, March 15, 1864.—This is to certify
that John Bryan was admitted into the hospital on Feb. 7,
with incised wound of shoulder, and is now suffering from
blood poisoning, and is still in a very dangerous state.
R. Hughes, house surgeon."
Mr. Paget again remanded the prisoner until Tuesday
next,

The recognisances of a man named Johnson, who was
brought up on a warrant last Tuesday to give evidence
against gardener were enlarged.

MARKETS—Tit—is Da—i.

HAY MARKETS.
SMITIMILD.—Meadow hay, L 3 Os to S 4 ;
£4 Os to £5 lOs Od ; and straw, £1 38 to £llO3 lOs Od
perclover load., A slow demand.
CIIMBERLAND.—Meadow hay, £3 Os to £4loa Od ; clover,
£4 Os to £5 10s Od ; and straw, £1 38 to £1 lOs per load.
Trade inactive.

WHITEORAPEL.—Meadow hay, £3 Oa to £4los ; clover,
£4 Os to £5 10a Od ; and straw, £1 3s to £1 108 per load.
A slow trde.

COLONIAL.
TEA,—There has been a moderato amount of business
transacted in greens from the late arrivals, and prices have
in most instances been well supported. Congou qualities
are rather dull, but remain at about former quotations.
bUGAR.—The Market has exhibited very little animation
owing to the firmness of holders. Good grocery descriptions
of West India maintain full rates; while in the refined
market there is little change of importance to reoord as re-
gards values.
COYFEE.—Tho enquiry for plantation Ceylon has been
steady, and prices are well sustained.
RlCE.—Only a limited business has been recorded, and
quotations show little change of importance.
TALLOW.—A steady business has been done for both
Present and forward delivery. P.Y.C. on the spot is
quoted 41s. 6d,, and last three months, 445. 6d. per cwt.

Liverpool Cotton Market—This Day,

Market firm. Sales, perhaps, 6,000 bales or
more. Imports, 34,692 ; previously, 47.

SHIPPING—This Day,

LONDON, March 15.—Wind this day at noon—South.
Weaterly ; moderate breeze, and fine weather, but rather
cloudy.

(BY MAGNETIC TELEGRAPH.)
GRAVESEND, Tuesday Morning.
Arrived, March 15—Grace Pearle, from Colombo; Sea
Flower, from Guernsey ; Maria, from Ilorsens.
DEAL Tuesday
Passed—Congress, from Calcutta,, for London Morning..
Anchored—licarseage, Federal war steamer, from off a
cruise.

THACRERAY'S INCOME from copyrights, writings,
and realised property averaged, according to some accounts,
about £4,000 a year for some years previous to his death,
THE DUKE DE MORNY is stated to have recently
read to a circle of his intimate friends an unpublished comedy
of his own composition.

A NEW ILLUSTRATED THEATRICAL PAPER is
announced as about to be produced by Mr. Tanis.
ToUJOURS PERDEIX I—The Poet Laureate's poem
is stated to be once more about King Arthur and the Round
Table Knights. Something of the kind was done in prose,
and very beautifully, in Macmillan, the Knights being
Scotch literary men, and EiPg Arthur the editor,

THE CAL

FFIEL D,

MEETING IN AID OF THE SUFFERERS.
Yesterday a numerous body of gentlemen obeyed
the call of the Mayor to attend the preliminary
meeting at the Council-hall at 11 o'clock. Lord
Wharncliffe came in in the course of the meeting,
and was received with cheers.
The MAYOR, on taking the chair, said that Mr.
Roberts and Mr. Housefield had attended as an in-
dication of their sentiments on this melancholy oc-
casion, but as an important meeting of the direc-
tors of the Water Company was going on, they
would be under the necessity of going there.
Alderman 111(COCK was afraid the retirement of
those gentlemen would be ascribed by the public to
some other cause than want of time. He thought
they ought to have the directors of the company
present to explain the position in which they stood
with reference to the awful calamity. No interest
or power ought to prevent the directors from ex-
plaining their position. (Hear.)
Mr. DUNN said the meeting was called by a cir-
cular to consider the means to be taken in this
emergency to relieve distress. (Hear.) It was not
for them to consider the liability of this body or of
that. Their present business was with a calamity
from which many were actually suffering, and
without stopping to inquire about responsibility
they must see what they could do to provide
relief. (Cheers.) He was a sufferer to a consi-
derable extent, but he did not come there to enter
upon that question. They could not expect the
directors of the Water Company to state their views
on this occasion. These gentlemen represented a
body of shareholders for whom they were trustees,
and those shareholders had not yet been called toe
gather. Those directors were not here in that capa-
city, but to show their sympathy as Sheffield men.
The time would come when other questions would
be raised. At present the only question was the
relief of distress, and before they came to other
questions he hoped the feeling would be a little
lowered down, and that they should be prepared to
treat them more calmly as business matters. He
hoped the Mayor would limit the discussion to the
subject for which they were met. (Cheers.)
Mr. IRONSIDE said the truth must come out.
There must be no attempt to stop it. (Cheers.)
The MAYOR said the whole truth would come
out at the inquest. The object of this meeting was
to make arrangements for a town's meeting.
Mr. HOUNSFIELD said that at the meeting of the
directors of the company that morning the question
had been considered whether the directors had
power at this meeting to put the company down
for a subscription. It did not appear that they had
power to do so. Mr. Roberts and himself would
be glad to subscribe in their individual capacity,
but not as representatives of the company.
Mr. ROBERTS said it was not in their power to
give any explanations at present, however anxious
they might be; but nothing would be kept back.
In fact, it was not in their power to do that if they
desired it.
Mr. HOUNSFIELD said the meeting might rely
upon it that every explanation would be given.
Mr. Hounsfield and Mr. Roberts then retired.
The MAYOR.—It is unnecessary for me to speak
at any length in regard to the dreadful calamity
that has been the cause of this meeting. At noon
on Saturday a communication was made to me that
a great number of persons were assembled in the
neighbourhood of Hilishorough-bridge and Owler-
ton, and that some were carrying away furniture
and property that did not belong to them.
("Shame!") Finding that the Civil power was not
considered sufficient, I immediately applied to the
commanding officer et the barracke,and he at once,
and with the utmost readiness, placed at my dis-
posal any number of men that I might require.
(Cheers.) The soldiers were on duty during the
day, some of them during the night, and on Sun-
day. Yesterday, in consequence of the admirable
arrangements of the constables everything went off
exceedingly well as far as the maintenance of order
was concerned ; and from the police reports this
morning I find there are only two cases in which
persons have sought to take a dishonest advantage
of the confusion that prevailed. (Hear, hoar.)
That fact speaker volumes for the good order and
the good feeling of the inhabitants of Sheffield.
(Applause.) I will not detain you longer, as this
is merely a preliminary meeting to the town's
meeting that will be held to-morrow. I should
wish it to be held on that day, in consequence of a
letter which I have received from the noble Lord •
Lieutenant of the Riding. The Mayor then read
the letter. In it Earl Fitzwilliam said he had
heard rumours of the dreadful calamity, and he
asked for information as to its extent and the steps
that had been taken to relieve the families of the
sufferers. He had no doubt but that the inhabi-
tants of the town, who had on all previous occa-
sions shown such a large amount of liberality,
would attend to the immediate
Wants of the suf-
ferers. He hoped a large and systematic scheme
of relief would be inaugurated. To any committee
that might be appointed he begged that his name
might be added, and said he would be ready to at-
tend a meeting on Tuesday at noon. While the
Mayor was reading the letter Lord Wharncliffe
entered the room and was loudly cheered.
The MAYOR read letters from several gentlemen
who were unable to attend. A barrister named
Munster, of London, enclosed a check for 20
guineas, and offered to do all in his power to ob-
tain subscriptions in town.
(Hear.)
Mr. E. VICKERS—I agree
with every observa-
tion the Mayor has made but one—namely, his
reference to this as a preliminary meeting. I be-
lieve it would be a great mistake so to regard it.
This meeting is certainly
com-
mence a subscription. large enough to We are all met here
for the purpose of relieving the unfortunate
people who are sufferers by this calamity
—(cheers)—and there is
no time like the
alludes may be called at
present. The town's meeting to aysehdioaht
this
hh
ies mayormeet
a
ing of the town ought to bee date, but the feel-
ing.xpres (Hear, hear.)
The MAYOR—It is very desirable that we should
This can only be a pre-
give Lord Fitzwilliam an opportunity of attending
the meeting. (Hear, hear.)
liminary meeting, but a subscription will be entered
desirable that there
into and will be exhibited at the meeting to-mor-
row. (Hear, hear.) It is ver
resolution authorising the
should be another meeting ; but no doubt many of
the gentlemen resent will commence the s b •
u scrap-
tione, and I will at once inform Lord Fitzwilliam of
theresultmr. T .Do fu
Nt hzti ammo eveetdi nag.
Mayor to call a public meeting to-day (Tuesday) for
the relief of the distressed.
The resolution was seconded by Mr. J. BROWN,
and carried.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE moved " That this fearful
inundation, which has caused such an awful of
loss
life and immense destruction of property
eerily occasioning widespread misery and,
deso, eeeesla•
- tion, calls upon the inhabitants of this borough and neighbourhood to sympathise and subscribe, so as
to alleviate as far as possible the distress that
exists." His Lordship made an urgent appeal for
support.
Mr. W. BUTCHER, town regent, seconded the
motion, which was carried.
Mr. F. Hooee road the following telegram from
Mr. G. Hadfield, M.P. :
" I will send £5OO to-morrow (Menday) for the
relief of the surviving sufferers." (Cheers.)
A list of subscriptions was made up in a few
minutes to X 5,000, 10 of the principal firms putting
down their names for 1200 each.
It was agreed that the Mayor should communi-
cate with the Lord Mayor of London.
The Chairman of the Sheffield and Ecclesall
Unions intimated that the promptest and most
liberal relief had been given to the survivors "with-
out reference to consolidated orders or districts, or
anything but the necessities of the sufferers."
MONDAY NIGHT.
Further inquiries show that the number missing
exceeds any previous estimate. There are 238
known to be missing; of these there are 131 iden-
tified, 56 not identified, making 187. Twelve
bodies were found to-day in the submerged gardens
in the town. The property owners damaged by
the flood have held a meeting, and have resolved to
take united action against the water company. A