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of freetrade principles; and he exprei
that the advocates of those principles
increasing in the States of the ZollvereiK: 1101
would like the Chamber to furnish him with a
memorandum of their suggestions upon the subject
of the tariff, so that he might, on his return to
Prussia, in conjunction with cur Ambassador et
Berlin, when an opportunity arose, do his best to
carry their wishes into effect. He might mention
that the negotiations which had been going on so
long with Austria, with a view to obtaining a
more favourable treaty with that country, bad been
broken off. He also stated that a negotiation had
been privately commenced between the Zoliverein
and Russia for a treaty of commerce. He could
not speak hopefully of the probability of as 3et
getting any further concessions from the Zlllvercin
—but he believed that in the course of time foreign
nations, though slowly,
would see the advantage of
following the example set by Great Britain in
relation to free trade to a greater ex:ent than had
yet been done.
Mr. HEADLAM—Supposing a treaty should be
made between Russia and the Z ,llverein, should
we get the favoured nation claus,! ?
Mr. WARD said we should.
In reply to the Chairman,
Mr. WARD said that, though the Franco-Prus-
sian treaty was for 12 years, any State of the Zoll-
verein could separate from the Union by giving
two years' notice, and Zoliverein would be
broken up.
Mr. C. ALLIIIISEN moved the following resolu4
tion

MICE ..4d;
STAMPED ....sd.

olds and upwards. The winner to be sold for 100 soya i

demanded, &c. T.Y.C. 9 subs.
!1r Hodgman's Confederate, 3 yrs, 7st Slb (Morris) 1
Mr W. Morris's Lady Abbess, 4 yrs, Bst 121 b
(Custance) 2
J. Osborne's Lyra, 3 yrs, 7st lib (Carroll) 3
Handley's Wangle Eye, 3 yrs, 6st 51b.,(Cranshaw) 4
Greville's Verdiere, 3 yrs, 6st 7ib.... (J. Grimshaw) 5
It. Ten Broeck's Kromeski, 3 yrs, 6st 41b
(Mut fitt) 6
Betting--5 to 2 agst Confederate, 4to 1 eget Lady
Abbess, and 9 to 2 each egst Lyra and Verdiere.
Verdiere cut out the work at her best pace, followed in
close order by Confederate, Lyra, and Lady ALbess into the
cords, when the former retired, leaving Confederate with
a clear lead, which he retained to within 30 yards of the
chair, when he was joined by Mr Morris's filly. The pair
finished a close race home, the former winning rather
cleverly at last by three parts of a length ; a similar distance
divided the second and third; Wangle Eye finished a good
fourth.

Maiden Plate of £5O, for 2-yr-olds, colts Bst 10Ib, fillies and
geldings Bst 71b. The winner to be sold for £3OO, if for
£2OO allowed 71b. Bretby Stakes Course.
Lord Coventry's Connection, Bat 31b (£200) _ _

(J. Grimshaw) 1
Marquis of Hastings's Lady Florence, Bst (£209)
(Fordham) 2
Capt. Machell's Tring, Bst 31b (Z 200)
The following also ran : The Squaw filly, Bella, Irish
Mail, General Rally, and Hawkstone.
Betting-5 to 2 agst Lady Florence, 3to 1 agst Connec-
tion, 100 to 30 agst Tring, and 5 to 1 agst Hawkstone.
They got away upon equitable terms, but after running a
few strides Tring, in the centre, took a clear lead, and came
on with the running, having Irish Mail and General Rally
as his immediate followers, Lady Florence, Bella, and Con-
nection lying off. On reaching the Bushes' hill General
Rally gave way, the leader was joined by Connection, Lady
Florence, and Bella. The four from this point ran nearly
abreast into the Abingdon Mile bottom, where Connection
took a slight lead, and won a fine race by three parts of a
length, Lady Florence beating Tring by a length for second,
Bella was fourth, General Rally filth, and The Squaw filly
sixth. Irish Mail and Hawkstone were the last two. Capt.
Machell claimed the winner.

"That the:Chamber has heard with regret that
the existing Zollverein treaty and tariff, which
have operated so prejudicially both to Germany and
this country, are to be re-enacted for a period of 12
years, and with modifications so slight that only a
very limited extension of commerce can be ex-
pected. That this meeting also notices that the
standing regulation of the Zollverin, which pro-
vides for a triennial revision of- the-tatifF-doticerio-
maintained in the new treaties. This Chamber,
therefore, world suggest that representations be
made by our Government to the contracting Powers,
to the effect that the original intention proposed
by Prussia of imposing a moderate principle of re-
gulating the duties be pressed upon the German
Governments."

Sweepstakes of 10 sous each, for 3-yr-olds, Bst; four, Bst
101 b ; five and upwards, 9st 11b. The winner to be sold

for 300 sous, if demanded, &o. Bretby Stakes Course. 8

subs.
Mr H. Bird's Regina, 3 yrs, Bst (Mann) 1
Mr W. Morris's Antidote, 4 yrs, Bst 101b....(Custance) 2
Sir J. Hawley's Woldga, 4 yrs, Bst 101 b (Wells) 3
Count F. de Lagrange's Yamuna, 3 yrs, Bst (Edwards) 4
Mr Astley's Overstone, 4 yrs, Bst 101 b .. (H. (Irimshaw) 5
Betting-6 to 4 agst Antidote, 7to 4 agst Woldga, and 4
to 1 agst Regina.
They ran in company for a quarter of a mile, when Re-
gina, with a slight lead of Antidote and Woldga, came on
with the running to half-way in the cords, where they
closed and finished a splendid race home, Mr Bird's filly
winning in the last stride by a neck ; Antidote defeating
Woldga by half a length for second. Yamuna was a good
fourth.

Mr. HEADLAM seconded the motion, thanking
Mr.lVard for his very clear and perspicuous state.
ment as to our commercial relations with Conti.
❑ental Governments. He was also glad to see that
gentleman there that day, as he thought it was the
inauguration of a new system by which the Go.
vernment would be brought into more direct commu-
nication with the people of this country. He him.
self felt that, although they might not have obtained
as much as they might have wished by this treaty,
they had made considerable progress. He was
of opinion that, although Prussia might have
given us a better tariff, in the long run it was
an advantage to freetrade principles that these
matters should be dealt with by large bodies of
people, for in that way they got public opinion to
bear more directly and more beneficially upon the
question. From what Mr Ward had stated, it
would appear that in future the progress of trade
would really depend more upon public opinion than
upon the efforts of foreign diplomatists. He se-
conded this motion becausehe believed that by press.
in g their views from time to time upon the Foreign.
office they would be doing their part to promote
free trade throughout the world.
The motion was put to the meeting and carried.
The CHAIRMAN then moved,—
"That a special committee be appointed to pre■
pare memoranda for Mr Ward in reference to the
probable operations of the tariff on the productions
of this locality ; that such committee do consist of
the same gentlemen who composed the committee
in reference to the Italian tariff; and that the same
committee do consider the best means of urging the
adoption of a liberal tariff upon the Russian Go.
vernment."

Free Handicap Sweepstakes of 300 sovs each, h ft, for 3-
yr-olds. D.I. 4 subs.
Count F. de Lagrange's Fife de I'Air, Bst 10lb
(Edwards) w. o.

THE ZOLLVEREIN.

NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE, Saturday.

A spec;al meeting of the Newcastle and Gateshead
Chamber of Commerce was held in the Merchants'
Court, Guildhall, Newcastle, to-day at noon, to con.
eider the best mode of proceeding with a view to
obtaining modifications (in the proposed reconstruc-
tion of the Zollverein) on the import duties into
Germany on British produce and manufactures.
Mr John Ward, C. 8., Chargé d'Affiires and Consul-
General for the Hanse Towns, who has been at
and is now visiting the manufacturing dis-
tricts of this country, by desire of Earl Russell, was
present at the meeting to inform the Chamber of the
actual state of affairs in Germany, and to ascertain
the views of the Chamber in case a favourable for
uegociation should hereafter present itself. The
chair was taken by Mr Somerset Beaumont, M.P.
(president of the Chambqr) ; and there were also
present Mr T. E. Headlam, M.P., Mr C. Allhusen,
Mr W. Dickinson, Mr Jemes Potts, Mr W. H.
Brackett (sicretary), Mr W. 11. Richardson, Mr
Jicub Burnett, Mr M. Havelock, Mr J. C. Brooks,
Mr F. Glenton, Mr A. C. liouen, Mr Kimpster, and
Mr Black.

This resolution, having been seconded, was put
to the meeting and carried unanimously.

Mr BUCK moved that the thanks of the Chains
her be given to Mr Ward for his clear, lucid, and
perspicuous stat•?ment.

Mr KIDIFSTER seconded, and Mr ALLHUSEN sup.
ported the motion, which was unanimously carried.
Mr WARD said he was very much obliged to the
Chamber, and they might rely upon Lord Napier
and himself not to lose any opportunity of endea+
vouring to carry out their wishes.
The meeting then separated,

The SECRETARY read the notice convening the
meeting, and also the following comznun;eation
from the Foreign-cifice

Foreign Office, Oct, 10.

" Sir,—With reference to my letter of the 3 nth ult., en-
cicsing copies of the Franco-Prussian Treaty of Commerce
of the 2d of August, 1862, and of the commercial conventions
recently concluded between various States of Germany,
together with copies of the tariffs annexed to them, I am
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burg, and of explaining to him their views as to any modi-
fication in favour of British industry which the Govern-
ments of the German Customs Union, if any opening for
doing so should arise, might be urged to adopt in their
tariff, Mr Ward has accordingly been summoned to Eng-
land, and, by Lord Russell's directions, I have furnished
him with this introduction to you; and Lord Russell is
persuaded that you will fully explain to him the various
points, affecting the trade of your district with the States of
theZollverein, which you consider should be borne in mind
in any communication which her Majesty's Government
may
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schavce,E
with those States on commercial.
n Amm,altoticerDs,.—
I The Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce,
Newcastle-on-Tyne.

Mr WARD said it gave him great pleasure, in
pursuance of the instructions he had received from
her Majesty's Government, to be able to make a
statement to the Chamber of the present position of
our commercial relations with Prussia and the Zoll-
verein, and the position in which we stood with re-
gard to the new tariff which had very lately been
definitively settled. They would be aware that
the German Customs Union was an institution which
had now existed above 30 years, and that it was
promoted originally by Prussia ostensibly for com-
mercial but partly for political objects. It had been
very well received by the nations concerned, and it
was generally admitted that great benefits had
flowed from it to all the manufacturing and corn%
mercial classes of Germany. He believed that when

it was formed it was the intention of the Prussian
Government to fix the tariff much lower than they
actually succeeded in doing. In fact, it had been
stated by several Prussian Ministers that they
would endeavour to fix upon 10 per cent. as a maxi.
mum duty ; but they found as they gradually drew
the other States to them to constitute the Zollverein

,hat that was impossible. Mr. Ward then referred

to the efforts that the British Ambassador at Berlin
and himself had made to obtain a reduction of the
Zollverein tariff, and said that when the negotia.

tions for the Franco-Prussian tariff commenced it
was considered a step towards free trade, Oar
Government., took the opportunity of opening
negotiations with Prussia in order to secure
similar advantages to those conceded to France,
and he was named a plenipotentiary jointly
with our Ambassador at Berlin to negotiate a treaty
with Prussia and the Zollverein. They made a pro•
posal to the Prussian authorities. In the first place,
they were asked by them, " Have you anything to
concede to us ? " Their answer was that England,
having constituted a liberal tariff for all nations,
could not give more to Germany or any other na-
tion. The negotiation came to this, that the Prus-
sian authorities told them that they would give
them the same privileges as those conceded to
France—that, in fact, they would place England
on the same footing as the most favoured nations.
The treaty with France reduced the duty on many
articles, and it was signed on the 2d August, 1863.
The treaty was for a period of 12 years, and he was
informed that on the ht July, 1865, was the earliest
period at which it could come into operation. Al-
though with regard to iron it disi not go the length
they would have liked, it reduced the duty upon pig
iron by taking off one-fourth of the former duty,
and off bar iron two thirds of the former duty. On
cotton yarn, cotton goods, and woollen and mixed
goods a reduction of duty had also been made. He
might state that all export duties were abolished
in the new tariff, with the exception of that on
rags for making paper, which had been reduced
from 9a. to ss. Mr. Ward then showed that in
the future they had not so much to hope from
negotiations, as likely to secure further reductions,
as from the growth of public opinion in favour