The Sun.
London, England, 1864-06-14 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS—This Evening,

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at
5 o'clock.

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE pointed out an error
in the report in one of the morning papers of the remarks
made by the Earl of Granville, in which he was represented
to have said that Lord Elgin had diverted to India troops
which had been sent to China. The fact was that he acted
upon the instigation of Lord Canning, who had shared with
him the responsibility.
Earl GRANVILLE said, considering that their lord•
ships were tempted to speak in a conversational toae across
the table, and the frequency with which conversation was
carried on under the reporters' gallery, he was not surprised
that his remarks were misunderstood. The noble lord had
correctly represented what he had actually said. Lord Elgin
was on his way to China at the time when the news of the
Indian mutiny met him wih the request that the troops in-
tended for China should be sent to India. Lord Elgin took
upon himself the responsibility of complying with the
request.
After a few words from Lord LTVEIDEN and Lord STRAT-
FORD DR REDCLIFFE, the subject dropped.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The following bills were read a third time and passed :
Shiels Charities—Earl of Egmont's Estate—Kent Coast
Railway--Crystal Palace and South London Junction Rail-
way—Great Eastern Railway (Highbeach Branch)—Lon-
don, Chatham, and Dover. Railway (Steamboats)-oswes-
try, Ellesmere, and Whitchurch Railway—South Eastern
Railway (No. 1)—South Eastern Railway (No. 2)—Nor-
folk Railway—London Brighton, and South Coast Railway
(Ouse Valley Line)—and Itoj stop and Hitchin Railway.
THE QUEEN'S MESSAGE—SIR ROWLAND HILL.
Her Majesty's message having been read by the clerk at
the table,
Earl GRANVILLE said he had now to make a similar
proposal to that ho made last evening on behalf of ono who
entered young upon the services of his country. Sir Row-
land Hill had not become a public servant at so early a
period of his life, but the great benefit that had been
conferred upon the I üblic at large by the adoption
of the penny postage would no doubt induce their lordships
to concur with her Majesty in conferring upon the principal
author of that scheme a mark of public approval. There
was, it was true, some question as to the actual-author of
the penny postage scheme, but Sir Rowland Hill was one
of the very foremost of its advocates, and owing to his
energy and talent it had been adopted by the
Government of that day, and bad ever since been
productive of the greatest national benefit. The number of
letters passing through the Post-office compared with that
before the scheme was adopted had increased ten fold, while
the money-order office, while it had been productive of the
greatest advantages to the commercial country at large, it
had been a considerable gain to the country. He had no
doubt their lordships would unanimously respond to the
recommendation of her Majesty.
After a few words from Lord BROUGHAM and the Mar-
quis of CLANRICARDE, the motion was agreed to.
[LEFT SITTING

HOUSE OF COMMONS—This Day.
The SPEAIiER took the chaic at twelve o'clock.
FACTORIES ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr BRUCE moved the second reading of this bill. He
said that between 17,000 and 18,000 children were eta
ployed in the trades with which it was proposed to
.deal.
The hon. member for Devonport (Mr Ferrand) had staled
that the bill would affect 10,000 persons, but he thought he
should be able to show the hon. member that that was
a mistake, although no doubt the numbers would bein-
creased by the extensions it was proposed to adopt. Ha

explained the principle on which the bill would go with re..
gard to the ages at which children might be employed, and
not many of the objections which had been urged against
Government. He also read lengthened extracts from the
reports of eminent physicians showing the deterioration of
potters and others from overwork, and the nature of the
work in which they were engaged. The seeds of the disease
were sown in the children, whose labour was far too severe,
It had been urged that the Government ought to have pro-
ceeded under the Mines Inspection Act, which prohibited
children under 12 years of age from being employed. That
would be a very good arrangement if they could secure
children, between S and 12, being Fent to school. (Ihe
right honourable gentleman read returns to show that
it was not the case). Another objection which had been
urged was that under the bi 1 they would not be able
to obtain a sufficient number of children to carry on
the work of matufactures ; but it mast be re-
membered these men were employers of boys themselves,
and it was likely that they would not treat them so
humanely as the employers. He had conclusive evidence
that many of the men neglected their work at the
beginning of the week, and, consequently, at the end of
the week they were obliged to employ boys to make up
their lost titne,thus rendering the employment of boys larger
than it would otherwise be. Another argument was that the
trades in which children were employed were so numerous
and detached that it would be impossible to enforce the
law. That argument had been used with regard to the
cotton districts, but it had not been found to
be of any use. Tho right hon. gentleman then
explained how the bill would apply to the lucifer match
trade in which children were employed from six in
the 'morning till ten at night, being the poorest of the
poor and worst educated of any class. From working
in ill ventilated rooms they suffered from most loathsome
disease of the jaws. lie also explained the nature of the
percussion cap trade, and other trades to which the bill
would apply,_ _ _

CItUM•EWING considered that the bill would
remedy many defects in the existing Factory Aflts, and
he hailed its introduction with great satisfaction.

Lord INGESTRE said he did not intendlooppose the
second reading of the bill, but when it was read a se-
cond tir,-,s he should move that it be referred to a select
committee. He was so anxious that legislation should
take place that ho put his opposition, if he might use such
a term, in the mildest form. It was only to some portions of
the bill which the right hon. gentleman proposed that he
had any objections at all. To the half time system he had a
great objection as being inapplicable to the potteries.
Mr. H. GRENFELL agreed with Lord Ingestre that
the Bill should' he referred to a select committee.

Mr WATKIN, in opposing the bill, said that the reports
on which the measure was founded were not correct, as
they were greatly exaggerated. In support of this state.
moat he cited the Luthority of an eminent medical man to
show that in certain districts where pottery works were
being carried on scrofulous diseases were not as rife as they
had been represented. His statement was founded upon
practical knowledge of the condition of the class whose
interests were involved in this bill, but he wished it to be
understood that the manufacturers, whose views he repre-
sented, were disposed to give effect to any legislative
enactment on the subject that was calculated to remedy an
evil. _ _

Mr ADDERLEY objected to the bill, as introducing a
system that from its expense was opposed to the feelings
of the community at large, as leading to a system of Go-
vernment inspection, than which nothing could be more
unpopular in this country. He contended that the mode
in which it was proposed to deal with the subject was a
slovenly form of legislating.
After some further discussion the bill was read a second
time.

The house then adjourned, but resumed sitting at six
o'clock.

The Fatal Accident at Egham.

EGHANI, TUESDAY, 9 a.m.

We are glad to learn, upon inquiry this morning, that
Louis Ray, the young man whose feet were amputated in
consequence of injuries received in the sad accident on the
South- Western Railway here on Friday evening last, is
progressing favourably, Mr Clarke, surgeon, of Staines,
and Mr Furnivall, also a medical practitioner in the locality,
have been unremitting in their attentions, and frequent
parcels of jelly, fruit, and other invalid comestible 3 have
been repeatedly sent from the Lord Steward's Department
of her Msjesly's Household at Windsor, and from Marl-
borough House. The patient, who is a Frenchman, still
remains at the Railway Inn, where he was taken after the
accident, and he speaks in the highest and most grateful
terms of the attention paid to him by Mrs Morton, the
landlady, and her servants, independently of the hospital
nurse who is in attendance, and his aunt, who is also here.
With respect to the unfortunate persons who were killed,
and into the circumstances of whose deaths the enquiry
will be resumed this morning at 12 o'clock, the bodies
have all been removed from the Railway Inn since the in-
quest was formerly opened on Thursday last. The remains
of Messrs Clegg and Hall were removed on Friday, those
of Messrs Wilkey and Wingfield on Thursday, and the
body of Coppard, Mr Padwick's clerk, was buried in Egham
Cemetery on Saturday afternoon in the presence of a great
number of persons.

Colonel Yolland, one of the official inspectors of railways
from the Baard of Trade, vieitcd the spot yesterday in com-
pany with Mr Scott, the traffic manager, and Mr Godson,
the general superintendent of the line, and subsequently to
the gallant colonel's inspection, the remnants of the broken
van and carriage were removed, FO that, so far as outward
appearance is concerned, all trace of the sad calamity has
disappeared.