The Sun.
London, England, 1852-06-17 00:00:00

THE SUN,

• The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
understood the Hon. Member commenced his speech by
thanking the Hon. Gentleman who moved the adjourn-
ment of the debate for the opportunity which he had
given him to make a second speech on the Bill. He ap-
pealed to the Speaker whether that was not an evasion of
the orders of the House.
The SPEAKER said it was an evasion of the strict
letter of the orders of the House, because when a mo-
tion for adjournment was made the Member who se-
conded it could only strictly speak on the adjournment.
whereas the Hon. Member had made a speech on the
Bill.—(Hear.) The inconvenience of the practice had
frequently induced him to call the attention of the
House to the orders, because if it were allowed,
any Honourable Member, by getting a friend to
move either an adjournment of the House or
of the debate, might make as many speeches as he
liked. He hoped the rules would be considered, with
the view of obviating the inconvenience.
Mr. ANSTEY said the Chancellor of the Exchequer
had misrepresented him.—(Cries of " Order.") 110
until they did
hebaer or
relieved
envoetd,
frombut their ember-
-11.
ras.ment.—(A laugh.) He was obliged to deliver his
tMheeymbewl:osuldmignhott
former speech in a thin House--(A laugh)—and he
wished new to give the real history ct the case,
which had not been properly stated. As to his being out
ef order, no man had taken greater liberties with the
forms of the Houie, for the purpose cf making speeches
over agaln• than the Caancallor of the Exchequer,
both tow and when be was in opposition. Had he not
a great respect for the dignity of tne House, the manner
in which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had inter-
rupted him would hsva induced him to
follow
a very
different course.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said, though this was not a
Government Bill, the Government thought it was ex-
tremely desirable to pass it.
Mr. HUME considered the amendment of the Hon.
Member was a very appropriate one, as the days of Par-
liament were numbered, and this was not one of those
questions which required immediate consideration.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the adjournment of the debate ... 31
Against it - 110

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,Lajority against the jonrnment ... —79
The House then divided on the main question, when
;here appeared—
For the second reading
Against it
Majority for the second reading ... —77
The Bill was accordingly read a second time.
VESTRIES BILL.

... ... 111

Sir DE LACY EVANS moved the second reading
of this Bill, which he explained was to put the parishes
of St. Giles's-in-the-Fields and St. George's, and St.
Margaret's and St. John's, under tho operation of Hob-
house's Act, from which they had originally been ex-
cepted.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he could not
agree to this Bill, because, in the first place, being in-
troduced as a public Bill, it was confined to the parishes
of St. Giles's•in-the-Fields, and St. George's, and
of St. Margaret's and St. John's, Westminster, and ought
therefore to have been brought in as a private Bill.
He felt it his duty to move that the Bill be read a second
time this day six months.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE defended the Bill as being in
consonance with the general spirit of legislation.
Mr. HENLEY thought that the object of the Bill
would be better accomplished by a private and local Bill.
Mr. HUME having been one of those who had con-
curred in introducing the original Bill affecting metro-
politan vestries, explained that the omission of these
parishes had been an utter mistake, and he thought they
were entitled to the remedy which they sought by this

Mr. WALPOLE said the Bill was quite un-
necessery. He thought it was much better for the two
parishes to adjust their own differences, and bring in a
local Act.

After a few words from' Sir DE LACY EVANS,
Mr. BROTHERTON said he was decidedly of opi-
nion that the objects desired by this Bill ought to be ob-
tained by means of a private Bill.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the second reading 26
Against it
Majority
The Bill was accordingly lost.
MR. FEARGUS O'CONNOR.
Mr. Secretary WALPOLE brought up the report of
the Select Committee appointed to inquire into the pe-
tition
presented by Miss O'Connor, praying for the re-
lease of her brother, Mr. Feargus O'Connor. The
Committee had reported that the facts contained in
that petition were all true, and that Mr. O'Connor
had been examined by two medical men, who certified
him to be of unsound mind, and a proper person to be
confined. The Petitioner stated that she had made ar-
rangements for the reeepthau of her brother at the private
asylum Chiswick, and that she had signed
the requisite
a erfot for that purpose. Miss O'Connor
and Dr. Take had given an undertak-
ing that Mr. Feargus O'Connor should not be
removed from that asylum without the consent of the
House. The Rigkt Hon. Gentleman concluded by
moving that the Hon. Member for Nottingham be dis-
charged from the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms,
with a view of being removed to the asylum of Dr.
Take.

Mr. BUIUE hoped that no time would be lost in
enabling the Hon. Member to be transferred to the cus-
tody of Dr. Take.

Mr. WALPOLE said that arrangements had already
been lands ;or this purpose.
Mr. GOULBURN inquired whether the undertaking
which had been given was to Extend beyond the present
session?

Mr. WALPOLE said that the undertaking did not,
of dowse, extend beyond the present Parliament.
The Parish Constables Bin was withdrawn.
CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELECTIONS (No. 2)
BILL.
Mr. ANSTEY moved that the House go into Com-
mittee on the Bill.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved that the
House go into Committee on the Bill this day three
months. The Bill was a most extraordinary Bill in its
provisions, and never would have attained its present
stage exee
pt by inadvertence on the part of the Govern-
ment.

After a few words from Mr. ANSTEY,
The House divided, when there appeared—
l'or going into Committee... ... 16
toergiutyan .a. y.
Against is . ... „.65
The 13111 was ellona lest...
The House then adjourned at Six o'clock.

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