The Sun.
London, England, 1852-05-20 00:00:00

i“)L6 DISCOVERIES

Mr. GLADS ['ONE asked ;,vliethrr the attention of
her M.,j sty's Go',-rcm,t3t had been drawn to the reports
of the discovery of gold in hrgo quantities in Qieen
Charlotte's I.laud, and of the rloparinre of considerable
numbers f pera, ni from CalitornW for that island;
whether any measures have been or are to be taken for
the maintenance to, order, and for securing the authority
of the Crown in thA island ; and also if it was the in-
tention of G,,verr wn,, to order a sat yap of the island?
Sir JOHN MAKING PON said ho had received a
report from the Governor of Vancouver's I,l.srld, giving
an accAint of the dilcov,ry of gold in Charlotte's
Isiand.—(Bear, 12;:ar.) That discovery was to a con-
siderable extent, but he was not able to give any ac-
curate information as to its extent or character.—
(Hear, hear.) The report also informed him that
some American sh;ps ?rota California had proceeled
thither, and more American vessels were expected ;
and in consequence of that information, Government
had given directions for sentimg additional naval as-
sistance, to preservs crder under these extraordi-
nary eireunutanccs.—(Hear, hear.) With regard to the
tweed question the Hon. Member would ace that he
could not be expected to state new what measures would
be eveatually Wien by the Government with reference
to those discoveries; while as to the third question he
%mid only state that no survey bad been ordered.
RIBBON' LODSES. -

Mr. O RM.SBY. GORE wished to aek the Attorney-
yeasral for Ireland for information respecting the ar-
'iand committal to geed ef eight ribbontoeti, seized in
heir lodge at Granera and - rerni:tal to Longford
Lain, and ee, : -* ' . t° ' '
ad-
mitted to
bait,
their eavieg been subsequently
found xi,,_ a,l, Many of these mea had death notices
seen rea ram, and at-the bottom of these notices
been wa.rnts.;',4ls—" Tnis is the second time you have
not tans i:ectiamal, by God Almighty, if thou do
afore long," Bine yen may have year coffin ready
maws, )melees hm: these men had been admitted to bail
their arrest, had reettera, Who nudd:c:y disappeared on
abls -disposed iehabiitrart'sed to the county, and the peace-
prptmrts. wished to know what steps
Government twre
to tease for their protection?
The ATTORNaysaf_l
fire
of tile mod had bo,uht-Iu_NER AL for IRELAND said
of them bed aeen detained admitted to bail, bat two
The Act of Parliament .„4:ana.. want of sufficient baia
save
ia)aitlsei magistrates a discre-
tionary power to boat
certain cases, and
although this ease [night assume ti,,
- character of a con-
opuses, to murder, it as 'yet
intoacharge of being a member
ely„ resolved itself
saance.—(Rear,tli:tulr•)i I 1 e. gTehl e ell uebn,
which was a bailable
would tie tried at the summer as3izls, and •
the part of the Government
nothing would
be wanting on
justice home to these who Woreasany gaiity._(ri g
Mr. GORE wished to know if the bail did ear.)
not range
from 201, to 30/ ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for didIREL,k, .
not know the amount, but the bail was feudal"!
by the
most respectable farmers in the district.
THE RECENT ENGINEERS' STRIKE.
„., Mr. FORSTER wished to ask ;be Chancellor et the
-t,ltohrquer whether, at an interview with a deputation
from the Amalgamated Engineers at the Treasury, in
reference to the late struggle between them and their
employers, he stated that e the masters bad acted in a
manner subversive of the law?" This report had lien
in circulation for manydays
without receiviug any con-
tradiction.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it
was not correct that any deputation of the Amalgamated
Society of Engineers had been received at the Treasury,
but a deputation of the United Trades of London
waited upon him, and made certain representa-
tions, which were lirened to with patient atten-
tion, as he trusted all representations from large
bodies of the working classes always would be
by the Executive Government, when urged with mode-
ratioa and decorum.—(Hear, hear.) No word was ut-
tered either by himself or any other official present at
the interview which expressed any opinion on the con-
duct of the employers or of the employed, and
it was therefore unneeciasty to aid that not oce word
which had ben sleeted by tne Lion. Gentleman escaped
him or any others:ls6ml person who was present to receive
the depotaVon. His afteetion was called to this report
on Monday ?ad by a gentlemen who was present at the
interview, and who requited permissioa to give the re-
port an unqualiaed contradiction. But es he had been
In:rued by the courtesy of a Gentleman opposite that
_4m_ cileation %weld be put to him, he had recalled that
vemorress ain in order to have the opportunity of giving a
Inzrato denial from his puce in Perliament,
wYellearo;)D FORESTS.
Viseetust DZyn ' ' ~,„ -7, =b.
w_.... AN wishei to ask the Chancellor of
‘...l7l,jascriro`orai_ aaswttioer ails far the disaffarestatien and
been prepared Cole Vo and ',.'i itittiobury Forests have
&e , in conformity with
the notices
of Woods, Forests,
on the 7th day of NaseZenotices issued in the Gazette
is the intention of Geeeester* 1851, and, if se, when it
The CHANCELLOR 'of teilt
.!,e introdnee them?
Bill was prepared and the etheraw-XCHEQUER said one
existing state of Parliamentary ett Psrta.
paring, but in the
of pasong either this Sesbion. He had aere was no hope
printed in order that they might be laid ordered them to be
PAYMENT Ora COSTS Br ~, i,pon the table.
la reply to igt, ,LZNlgieliD, 4,1L14 CUOWN.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL admitted that great
hardship was sometimes entailed on parties in sense-
(pierce of the Crown not paying costs on informations
filed by the Attorney-General, but the Crown neither
received nor paid costs, and if any alteration o' the law
were made, it must be reciprocal. In nine cases out of
ten the Crown succeeded, and it would become a question
whether it would not be more to the interest of parties
to allow the law to remain se it was.
NEW ZEALAND BILL.
In reply to Sir W. MOLESWORTH,
Sir J. PAKINGTON said the Government intended
to proceed with the New Zealand Bill this evening if
the debate on the Militia Bill concluded before ten
o'clock, but in the event of its continuing to a later hour,
they would propose to proceed with it to-morrow.
THE REV. MR. BENNETT.
Mr. HORSMAN wished to know whether the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer meant to convey it to the House
as his opinion, that parishioners who complained of a
bishop for having improperly instituted a presentee
had any redress under the Church Discipline Act ?
Tbe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was
not aware of having used the expression improper' in-
atitutien. What he intended to say was, that any pa-
rishioner of Frome who complaiced of a person
who was alleged to have committed a
serious breach of discipline and doctrine,
being instituted to the vicarage of Frome, might obtain
redress by applying for the interposition of the bishop
of the diocese or of the bishop of any diocese
in which the accused had held preferment. By
these two methods the parishioners of Frome
might obtain redress. With regard to the
other point—as to the means of redress against
those prelates who refused redress to the parishoners,
her Majesty's Government had such confidence in the
Bishops of the Church that they did not con-
template any such contingency. (Hear, hear.
They could not believe that the Bishops would
offer any obstacle to the course of justice and the cause
of truth.

Mr. lIORSMAN observed that the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman had not stated whether the parishioners had re-
dress under the Church Discipline Act?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
had already pointed out two modes in which redress
could be obtained.

In reply to another question,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no
hesitatien in saying that the Government did consult the
Law Officers or the Crown as to the irregularity of the
institution, and they gave their opinion on that irregu-
larity.
Mr. HORSMAN—Had the Right Hon. Gentleman
any objection to lay that opinion before the House?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had,
certainly, a great objection to doing so.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord CASTLERE&GLI thought this question had
been very unfairly dealt with.—(Order.) Were the
Government aware that the Rev. Mr. Bennett was a
clergyman in communion with the Church of England?
—(No an.wer was returned to this question.)
Sir B. HALL gave notice, that when this subject was
formerly brought before the House he would call atten-
tion to the state of the diocesan church (f Wells.
MAYNOOTH GRANT.—ADJOURNED DEBATE.
In reply to Mr. KEOGH, _ _

_ .
Mr. 14ki:WDEGAT.C., intimated (as we understood)
that he intended to move the adjournment of this debate
until the 15th of June.

Mr. ANSTEY gave notice that he would move that
the debate be adjourced till Wednesday next.—(A laugh.)