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dustry closely connected with the prosperity of Ireland.
He had brought forward the meesare, as he had under-
stood the Government were not prepnred to do so. If the
House should assent to the introduction of the Bill, he
should not object to refer it to a Committee up-stairs, in
order that its details might be fully considered.
Mr. LABOUCHERE did not object to the introduc-
tion of the measure; on the contrary, he was glad the
question had been brought before Parliament and the
people of Ireland. The principle of the measure, as
stated by the Hon. Gentleman, had been brought before
the Government in the course of last session by Lord
Enniskillen and others, and in answer to their letter, the
Noble Lord at the head of the Government stated that,
provided public feeling in Ireland was expressed in
favour of the measure sugeeeted, he should be quite
willing to give every facility for the carrying their
wishes into effect. Since that time, however, the Go-
vernment had not received from any of the constituted
authorities in Ireland any assurance that there was a
general de:dre that the principle should be carried out.
It they harl received such an assurance he shout 3
having been convinced of the importance of granting
facilities for the completion of reilways in Ireland—have
felt it to be his duty to bring the question before the
House. He did not think they would be justified. In
proposing any very great diversity of legislation with
regard to railways in Ireland from that which existed! in
this country, unless a clear and general expression of
opinion to that effect were made by the Irish Members.
Not having seen the proposed measure, ho could give no
opinion as to its details, but no doubt they would require
to be carefully considered. He hoped the Hon. Member
would fix a distant day for the second reading.
Colonel DUNNE believed that the Irish Members
were in favour of the principle of the Bill; and, in answer
to the remark of the President of the Board of Trade,
that no feeling in favour of that principle had been
pressed by the grad juries of Ireland, recalled to his re-
collection that no assizes had been held since the date of
the answer of the Noble Lord to the representation
ad-
dressed to him.
Mr. F. FRENCH said that the Government ought to
have ende:Avoured to promote the development of the in-
terests of Ireland by means of railroads. He hoped that.
the non opposition of the Right lion. Gentleman oppo-
site would he converted into a strenuous support of the
principle of the Bill.
Mr. GROGAN had listened with pleasure to the re-
marks of the Right lion. Get: thalan the President of
the Board of Trade. lie wittingly accepted his good in-
tentions, though he promised little more than nut to op-
pose the principle of the measure. .11e did not think. it
was asking too much of the Government to give the
people of Ireland on opportunity of developing the i!e
sources of the country by means of railroads.
Leave was then given to brine in the Bill.
BEER LAWS.

Sir J. PAKINGTON moved, pursuant to nothe,
that the House resolve itself into a Committee to con-
sider the laws relating to the sale of beer. He wished
to introduce anew the Bill which he had brought in .;o-
wards the close of last session, and, as a matter of form,
be had to move that the House resolve itself into Co n-
mittee o❑ the subject. He wished to extend the proiri-
sions of the Act passed on this subject some years ag;o,
and to add some new provisions regarding police and
other regulations. The whole Bill he proposed to
found mainly on the report of the Committee which :tut
in the other House on this subject during the yet.irs
1849 and 1850. The evidence taken before that Cot n-
mittee afforded abundant proof, if proof were requir(
of the serious evils which had arisen in all parts fr( tm
the present state of tee laws regarding the sale of be er.
Th-se complaints had been so general and so loudly e x-
pressed both out of doors and in petitions to the Hoc se
that he hoped, though there might to differences of
opinion as to the provisions he proposed, that little or
no opposition would be offered to some legislation on the
subject. He should best consult the convenience of the
House by postponing any explanation of the details till
the second reading.
On the question that the Speaker leave the Chair,
Mr. SOHOLEFIELD expr, seed his regret at trio
statement of the Hon. Baronet that the Bill he had ti.)
propose was the same as that of last year. He belieteNl
the complaints against beer-houses had referen De
mainly to those in agricultural districts, and did not b e-
lieve that any provisions, such as the Hon. Baronet
contemplated to introduce, were required in the large
towns.

Mr. E WART protested against all attempts of malkiiag
men moral by Act Parliament.
Mr. AGLIONBY had received communications frc,nct
the beer-sellers of the metropolis on the subject, but
they did not ask him to oppose the introduction of
the Bill.
Mr. MITCHELL would oppose the Bill if it went to
give magistrates the same power over beer-shops that
they had now over public-houses.
The t,PEALER left the chair, and the House rent into
Committee.
A resolution having been passed in conformity with
the motion, the Hou;:e resumed.
Oa the question that leave be given to bring in the
Bill,

Mr. KERSHAW thought they ought to have a stai:e-
ment of the dnaile of the Bill.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said it was the same Bill which
had been presented to the House last session.
After a few words from Mr. Forster, Mr. Ewart, wit]
Mr. Scholetield, the motion was put and agreed to.
Mr. M. GIBSON, pursuant to notice, moved for leave
to bring in a Bill to establish county financial boat .ds
for the assessing of county rates, and for the administ::.a-
lion of county expenditure in England and ‘Vale.9.—
Agreed to

Mr. SCULLY moved for returns of translated copies
of sill charkers or letters patent grauting certain lan da
for the promotion of education in Ireland during tbe
reigns of Queen Ehz theft', James 1., and suhsequeni;ly
(excepting such as appear in returns No. 475 of 1 sat
session); sod of the amount of all grants of money or
other funds (distinct from the rents of the school estates
in Ulster or elsewhere) given or granted for educatimial
purposes over %%Mob thy Commissioners' of Education
have control, particularising the name of each grantor,
and date of each instrument respectively, stating the
purpose for which the same was given, and where such
sum is now placed; and, if on interest' the amount of
such interest annually derived, and how and for what
purpose the same is now applied.—Agreed to.
Mr. AGLIONBY moved for and obtained leave to
bring in a Bill to effect the compulsory enfranchisement
of lands of copyhold and customary tenure.
The Bill was subsequently introduced and read a first
time.

Mr MITCHELL moved the re-appointment of the
Select Committee of last year to inquire into the Cus-
toms &pa! tment.
Mr. NAPIER moved for a return of the number of
days, specifying the dates, in the years 1849, 1850, and
1851 respectively, during which the Masters of the
Queen's Bench, Exchequer, end Common Pleas in Ire-
laud have been absent frum their offices at the Foitir
Courts in Dublin respectively; also specifying t'ho
causes of their absence, and the manner iu which the
duties which they are 'required to perform have been
discharged, by what persons, and by whose authority,
during any such pried of absence.—Agreed to.
The House then adjourned at a Quarter to Ten o'clo ck.

TO THE SECRETARY OF THE BRADFO.

REFORM ASSOCIATION.
(PUBLISHED EVERY MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY.)
Sir,—lt would be useless tor me to lay before you the
details of the Ministerial Bill of Reform. It makes
some great Omissions; but the impression on the whole
was favourable, and the tokens of opposition were weak.
The representative of Manchester and its Congress,
made an admirable speech; but not a word of the
threatened intention to oppose the Bill if it did not come
up to a certain mark. O❑ the whole the countenances
of the Liberals are shining. It seems considered cer-
tain there will be no change in the Government, and no
dissolution. All of which is working for Bradford
quietly and well.
The important omissions in the Bill, are the Ballot,
and the Shortening of Parliaments. It is to be presumed
the Government was anxious to leave something to do
another time. _

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The objections of the Government to the Ballot may
he considered as announced in a place out of doors.
They are, first, that the absence of the Ballot is neces-
sary to secure the influence of the non-electors ;
secondly, that the ballot in France did not prevent a
majority for Louis Napoleon.
To the first, the answer is, that the influence of the
classes below the possessors of the franchise is an ounce,
where the influence of the classes above them is a
Pound. Examine any borough and see what the in-
!lnoue° of the non-electors amounts to. They can irt-
ntornaeaWe half a-dozen publicans, and the same number of
int,r.adesmen. The non-electors
the
Becoen,tation. therefore will be
att,r
Chia easily led creatures upon earth, if they run
dint of the ..:,:.!5
The
against a clear argument the other way. By
the min who venturecrahs
I.:,,,aisinall minority braved the
no-
minally to r:jilsoet, which it was held too dangerous no-
doubt the hallo Louis
voting danger of
Napoleon; for there can be no
I, aky in a hundred ways, and
ratty of findin- hi ms, to this day a lively probe-
ot, there would have been
In
to. there
minority at all. It b
its
aro hoped nobody will try to
had ngotfilbnaeenittllisetoßonaellway or other at Cayenne.
:viettiissit may be defended
rob the Government of
f distribu-
plan, is the
Another weakne,3 (though rgnt•
on the score cf policy) in the
way in which it avoids the question of the
lion of the electoral power. Would there() just
be any sense in decreeing if it were possible, instance,th
power of every minority should be made equal9to thatat the
the majority by making each of its votes tell in the inof
verse proportion of their number? But if this would
clearly be absurd, where does the principle cease to be
absurd? What is the point, at whicn a minority is to be
conceded to be a minority, and no longer to be propped
by a factitious arrangement?
The answer seems to be, that things as they are,
must not be too violently altered, and that unjust
minorities must be let down gently. Nobody doubts,
in fac-, everybody avows, that the landed interest for in-
stance, possesses an enormous factitious power, which
it desires to keep. Bat in spite of th'is, it is being out-
grown by other interests; end this is perhaps a safer
course than rousing the resistance which would be con-
no use in demanding aj violent change, to produce that
sequent upon attacktnl,-, it in its strongholds. There is
which will be Cs well produced without. Time,
equaliz-r, is doing the, work.
On Tuesday Mr. Sharman Crawford's Bill on Tenant
Right, after a long discussion
in without a division. , was allowed to be brought

I aw, Sir, your obedient servant,
AN OLD REFORMER,
Blackheath, 11.FPb 1852

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