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themselves stated, for the exit!' ess nurpoee _of laying i agricultural improvement. Ia the north-west of India, , tion zu the princiPle, anti that teeintser WaS hound ete tehttt which I trust are, as thp, tondoest sum competed -to
their grievenees before Parham la• But oheerve, these where Mr. Bird's settlement was established in 1842, ;_nssi,go his reatione- for. reeking such alteration. matt Ynt derive.—(Elear.) Well, we have dene
gentleneee did not ask !hat aRe yel Ceministien ehould the system bate worktd so well and hal proved so hene- J. ilogg)need nee poiet out hew cennp'e to a. protdctiou 'this tvittiout i
-whhfeidnet With this religietie fi,elings of the
bit sent out—so far from that, t !tee said they were per- ' I'lo4l to the country, than the B .oabey Goreriouent, mete things were aettintt any improvidence, any hade, I : op!". i A
'ere have taken care that those who belong to
fetttly wining and aen, 70 lay mein
.grievaticee before thir,.! wete now introducing it into their men pietidency.-- • or any impropriety. ote the part ef • th. Bgerd.cf-Direcej tiltwEiertopnnti reed tlittiil.l lilidwite hdee 4iii,uql in-struc-
Heins°, awl in order that the Hens 9 might see the rondo i (Hear, hear.) The
.1-fon- Mtdutier fer YougOal had ,iso ' darn of which Mill wits the Practiee, aexe-t from the pros 'ztionitiodi enlighteettienttn--( de da heart) We have done
- . t c ,in qi - - ....'•
in which they proposed to do so, I e vvould read a sliert ' laid great stres3 upon the olden!: peverty and distress ' cosdings of- the secret • la ~ee it v`4..,se nets be .teucla, eu hittevergn.iy be the origin of our powes, -to jos.-
extract from the programme the y had ittuen, setting of the natives of India under Btitish ruled but he j ehoold aid the•gieat body of the dir„tert 4new nothing. ail:). -chid tlves in in eintaining our rule over India. It I
forth the grounds upon which the y intended going to (Mr. Hardinge) must say, from what he had observed The subject of patronage had been %decreed to; and it were to homeare that rule with thee Which exists in other
Parliament. They styled themseles a the British Indian in that country, that he thought the Hon. ndember's was, perhaps, a delicate tubject for him to tench on; but Edstern diatietis, if I were- to eempero that ride with that
Association; and they stated thee the society should statements somewhat exaggerated. Ho had been he had heard • what had been statee on thnsubject, and which eniets tn Tarkey, :with that which is adthinistered•
be formed for a period of not less than three' years i in several parts of India, and had travelled in Cashmere ccrtain returns had been made, of which- 'he should re. in Persia, it is impossible not to see baseness in the ad--
that its great aim and object ehatild be to promote and other countries, tieder native rule, and, in Ids ()pi- capitulate one or two items to the House. • There were minittralion,tcoirtiption in -the offices of . Government, .
elm - improvement and efficiency red the Briti,,h Indian nion the native! of titioso countries exhibited a, strong 2,900 appointments, for instanoe. in -the gift of the di- civil watt and rebellion; frota which.the people-of India
Government by every i„iterate means in its contrast esnompared with the natives of those trho en- rectors. Out of -this number 1.100 wPre given among. have, in la grent, degnee -bean saved by the rule which we
power, and thereby to anvindee „me common interest, joyed British rule. Much misconception had arisen, theueevents of - thecompany; I,7oo.were given to tette.. litave eat:it:dished: -And as ragarde the Act.of 1833, al-
of Great Britain and India, and air heliorate the condition and many statements had been made, as regarded our sons of the nobility, the gentry, end professional men; thosigh-suggestione- mq be made fon improvement in
of the native inhabitants of the had ier countr, t „d that system of taxation in India, particularly with reference and of the rest a large number were conferred on the particular provisisns, I will not say that. no advantages
as an object oe primary import thee the das„ciation toil the salt tax—or, as the Hon. Member had terrned it; , sons of naval and military officers in the service of the are to be, derived' from Certain changes, yet I believe, in
should make such urgent represent ations to the Imperial t e salt monopoly. But the salt tax was not a monopoly Qneeni but the largest of all, he was happy to say, its great: outlines.-thet Act will ..ba preserved in the
Parliameet of Great Britaio in the ensuing discussions of in the sense in which the Hon. Member had preseuted it were given among. the sons of the clergy. . These Bill whitth her. Mei
wdoestyts Ministers will submit to thie
'the East India Charter as minht be,,,alculated to remove to tha House, for within a period of five years the Go- returns he . should lay before the Committee, House. There is another remark, closely connected
defecta in the laws and eivilZmineseration, and promote vernment had reduced the tax 15 per eel:lee-and this mea- and. it would -be for them .to say whether with the other A t
ss an. that is upon the construction of
the gensret weisstre of British India. That
.showetd, sure had led to an annual increase in the consumption tp Or not the patronage of the East India the government; of Leila. Upon this subjeco like-
then, that these gentlemen bad assneiated to bring their the extent of 18,000 tons; whilst the price of walt bad Company was,- properly distributed. Tee Hon. wden„L contend, that - although such a ferra of govern-
grievauces before Parliament, and 'that they would avail been 80 much reduced to the consumer by the land° inat Member for Taunton had alluded to certain abuses merit—the converting a tradin conapany ince the
themselves oe the opportunity whic tit. would be presented portations, not only from Cheshire, but from B•embay, which existed in respect of promising• paaronage when administrutiond of --an : emeiro
p got fifteen millions,
to them for doing so by these discuss ions on the Eeetludia Madras, and the Ceylon coast, as fully to answer the exe Directors canvassed for votes. Abuses
would, no attn having that clentrol "by a Minister of the Sovereign
Charter. There was, however, aso !otncger ptoof still that pectations of the pramoters of the reduction of the duty. doubt, • exist, and such, if they exieted, were a dis- at heme—is a form one:merit/pent whieh theoretically is
these gentlemen did not wish a Roy. a nmanssion should —(Hear.) It had been suggested elsewhere that .an ad- grace to • him 'who asked the vote, as _ well as him lieble tit muchtcriticistid Under adverse -circumstances;
he tent to India; for it so happenedth at they had addressed dition on royal troops should be made to the present who gave it. But he (Sir J. Hogg) could most se- yet I must say,' itt spife. of that, the benefit of . expe-
a petition to the Executive Gerer 'intent of India, and forces in India. That was a subject which worild re- lemnly declare thaein the course .of his own canvass Hence shows us that- it ,is a overnment useful to the_ .
in the petition they actually sten td that they did not quire the most grave and mature consideration ; 'out of eyenta _hope, of . the kind had never been suggested to people of India.-w(Hear,
.hearg) Mv Hon. Friend the
want each a Commission 10 be Ben out. That petition one thing he w„ „rtain, that as long as they prtid re- hien except in the case of. one individual, and that wing . "D.:ATI-for mot:arose, speakin, with-the experience and
was addressed to the Deputy- Gove emir of Bengal; and peat to the religious feelings and prejudices of the nepoy, only dietantly done, whose support' he consequently ae" vqta Pie weighe,which'prop„.i; belongs to him, entirely
•it stated distinctly that "it was nemeseary to call such a and to his ideas of caste, they may mly upon his fidelity, (dined. The Hon. Member for Meetrose hed said that approves of the mode of • oveimment-established in this
machinery into existence." It was clear, therefore, they and upon the zeal and services. of the native army% He the Court of DireeCers was not attended regularly. By Conntry for the affairs of
India •th eh he says he is
did not aeem to think that their grievances required any hoped the House would not sanction any radical changes law there Was an attendance requihed once a week. dispoeed to wish fore-sonfe , d oue
ith. respect to
amen. meet w . . _
such Commission as this to be sent out. As ha (Mr. 'in the fld• ft irs unless such eft Many of the direntors *ere not young men—some of the power of declat' n '
management o n lan a es, , anges . „ o e, -Ir,ig-peace or' war. New,. with re-
Baillie) bad before observed, he hi id no doubt that the were imperatively called for. them had other most, important avocations—au or them , specdue that subject, 1 .
*tliont reverting to
must say, wt . . t
land-tax would be one of the great,. grievancea, and the Mr. RUME was glad that he had given way to the were glad to get .a little relaxation. But what was the any -petticulat just '
a 'ince, whether that ditcretion hes.
Hon. Gentleman also talked of the salt duties and the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, on account of fact as regardedetheir attendance? The average ate. been wieelY Uses. in that.. • • - [think a
particular instandce,
opium mcnoPolY—in short, of all Vie standing grievances the Practical knowledge he had shown on the w tbject. tendauce of the 24 exceeded 20, and there was no day in` great suojeet of that kind • d entirel
ts 'not to be coast ere . . 3'
of India; but however much those taxes nai h W• h tt h sed • • h•h d t Id ht' w ot from four to ten directors in th an Indian num'
gt be coin- it respec 0t e propo inquiry, e wis e o ex- wlc nere ere n ... e as ion, bat Must be viewed with regard
plained of, he very much doubted if the Hon. Gentleman, Press his satisfaction at it. At the same time hie must India House.—(Hearn_hear.) The' Hon. 'Member for to our interests in Europe; • and i better when a
•or any of the learned natives who were included in the urge on the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had pro- Teunton had told the'uouse that theltidiCialbusieess of queaiien of Abet kind is to be s its'sd farhat it ehould be.
new association, would be able to. devise a scheme of posed the amendment to withdraw it, as it was utterly Indie was principally disposed of by native agents. bolted hd the adview of_ the Mini°t 'Of fthe Crown, then
s ers
taxation in India bY which nearly 5,000,000 of revenue impracticable. The 100 millions of which the petpula. From returns of the Whole of India, tektite the oases of that the ultimetodisctetion h _
I f 'de the Eerie
b ontd he .0 twi .
ahould be raised there annual] int a. manner less obnoxi- tion of India was composed consisted of tribes and races original jurisdiction, as cOntradistinguishecr from the ape India CorapanYt—(Heand But wt tie I say this, lam
etua or injurious to the greatYbody. of the people than of such diversity that, if they sent out a Commisezon tu peal cases, there were, in the year 1849, the number of goite•of opinion that the '1 -
the system which was now in forth) in that country.— India, they should send a Commission to every disainct 258,574 suits deci led, of which 256.151, or 99 per cents,' ' affairs ilf India shohld 'en or the
den.erid administrant . _
emanate, not as the President
' -Moat) In discussing th . . . .
e question it was necessary tribe, and where could they find persona to conduce such were disposed of by native judicial offieers, the remain- ot the Board 0 Control Seems to -tie -to rnpresent it,
- that the House sho ld b ' 1 '
u. ear in mind and c ,
early un• a multirarious inquiry. They should have receurse to ing 2,423, Or 1 per pent. of the whole, having been die- from the Ministey of.the Crown, but from the direeters
. derstaed wfdat '` . •
was the object end the intention of the the servants of the East India Company, than whom no Posed. of In Eieropcan ju icial officers... Tnen again, in. . of:;the ..."433,5t India. Conine
eenY—thet, :ittith regard to ait
Government •- 'e •
. in n.oposing the appointment of this COM- Persons were more capable of perfornimg the duties do- cases Of appellee) and original jurisdiction—the Sadder- matteis of fieauce, alt matters
. of legisletion, all meatere .
, zenttee. the 130-0
Les was aware. as his Right HO3. volved upon them; the hest proof of which was, then no maneee'end others were appeal courts—in the of jiitice, IlleY l'°uld give-their eugge,tions and frame.
Friend t(Mr. Harries) 'had already stated in his very emergency had ever occurred without men being dound same year,. ounof 340,918 suits, original and appelle,te, thew Men-tit:duns. and that 'only -the power of
.approba-
able speeche thee the present form of our Indian govern- who were capable of meeting it. They would be 'much altogether dispcded of, 319.554, ort93 per cent., vaerentitnnon:ribjtution shoutd rest with the Minister.—tflear,
went was establithed by the Act ef 1833. Previous to better able to get at truth by an inquiry cendueeed at disposed ef by nvivet; while 21 364, or 6 end a -frac- hear.) It 14 evideara it a4ch is the case, in cnnsi i,,stilOCPS
the Passing of that Act a Committee was appointed to home, where they could have the services of some of thQ tidn her at nt., *ore dieposed of by Europese judges., this opinion of the urfe.eturs will 'be thnt which the B ierd
investigate every branch and depertment ot the Indian ablest men connected with India. With respect to the If an3hfurther preetewereneeded, it. would 'be feuf.d in:.'asf:Centrel avlll be nlnd to approve. and tactically the
edministration. That Committee was composed, he exempitous to which the Hon. and L-arned Geatl i man h
tee statement of his &elm Hon. Feieud (Mr. fLrrieei), din:eters-will hi, lett uyiblir.lee„,3 be .
3 thole. ePniusitieratienw
' believed, of seventy Membere, and in order to facie had referred, as having been made by Gevernment, lie re_ that, While the appeal," from the pOrtb-westerr! peoviecps —(Hear, hear.).. Wish:i•isie queation, toe; is coneeeted '
. Mate , their , iequirdis, they weee sub-divided into c:dleeted more absurd regulations being mane in. this etnounted to 15:c.er cene, dee reverse's emonnted only to the cpestitai of patruaageo
_and upon thut quesdon.agafo'
aix Committeee, each Sub-committee undertaking to in- country than had ever been made with respect to th.e im. 4 per cent.: The Hon. Member for Taunton. had seed it we c taunt but Pdrceive thht a problem has to be solved
destigate one of_ the' six branches ef the administration portation of salt in India. The real thing to be con- wee desirahl9 to him° in the direction of the India Com- which affeets not merely the geverete t if It di b
in which the bueiness of the India House and the Board eidered was the principle upon which the inquiry was play gentlemen of character, und ingion, mid inflaence, the co,naitimtioti ef Allis oeuhtty•—(lit. en
c ' a'
ut
at', hear.) I quite
• esf Control was classified and arraiige.i. Each of thee° to be conducted. Ile was pleated to find the Goe ern. connected with Lithe, end he (Strjames liege) agreed agree with the Hen. •Mentbsr for the utiotereitt, of to _
• &lb-Committees made a report, -and the whole of the ment had not determined on makieg aoy change w hich witn him in principle. But hie own experimme ef that tord, wil:.) i;poke -lest; that if h so•-heppened:that thxe
_reparts were nomprieeod in not le,'s than eight large blue would have the effect ef removing the Court of Den c- Courrhed couvinced
.. him that it eae etnittendy for the Mitlisiers of • the Cronin should hevethe endre disp ,sel
books: .He mentioned this merely that the House might tors from the management ot Indian affairs. No policy public good teat amoug, the directera there bhouli oe W all.ttio teventiPs.i.if . India, so far ae government 'and
-bear in mind that, tirevious to the Act of 1833, the ad- could be more fatal than such a removal of the steperin- Some unconnected with India. If they. were ell con- plifri)63g.) 'are chneern''d; it You'd' b. a vett, seriout
' ministration of the affairs of India underwent a full, tendence of the Court of Directors. with respect, to the ne...ted with abe • severe' s"rthets ot ledia—naval, mis deleger-aitenight haVe 1.), Perliap,- a fitaj d„„)- 4. ,:.r.to
.qomplete, and searching.. investidation. It must be alleged poverty of India it was only comparetive. r here litary, and civii—elesie individual feelings • might in the 'the ''c'tin'stitutioa Of this.. country.—(Rear, hear.), I
. obvious, therefore, that tbe Government had no in- was poverty in Etigland and Ireland as well as in lodia; ngreg,s,te amount te is prejudice. Ia guaelions regarding think it most fortunate, that. a medium should have
tendon, nor iedeed was it necessary, that such an but the rwors on the Company's Ueda svere mere cern- the Church in this country. the sole investigation was not been fouod, by Which rule ever India is well to-
inquiry' should take • place now. They were already notable than those in any of the native principali dee. A !etc to the cle.rgd otter iu the ease ot the law was the in- viderl, and there ia, --at the same time, safety toPthe•
in poesession of the infermetion whice was proeured by comparison between ledie and England was notaiast, one, vire, left entirety to levelers; but on all Cenemittees. that „nonetitution of ethis-countrY, and safety to that vase.
that Committee, and which was conteined in the blue Let them rather make a comparisen between our colonies Were appointed there were generally. some cien tacit con: etneire under ' the sovereignty of the em ire of the
books to which he had relerred. The qesstion wbich in different parts of ihe world and India as a c dony, and ' aected_with the subjectin a professiocal point of View, aud United Kingdom, - wrthout injury to the Pworkin of
~ was submitted to that Committee in 1832 was a very they would fied that India was far superior in the cora- who only repreeented the strong good setae of the cum- our constitatumal and Parliamentary intereet. (Ctategrs.)
. different one from that which must now be submitted to tort and satietection of her people than any other celony. munity. This was his opinioa as regarded the Board I therefore, seebiti air these circumstances. should var
-Parliament for its decision. In 18a-2 the question was He trusted that the Government would see fit to enlarge of Directora; and• he was bouud to say that among the much lament if' I'llathigbi that the Right lion. Gentile
. .11ot only whether the Government of India should be the powers and authority of the Court of Directors. In most useful men that had ever beloeged to that bodY— innin oPPosite was abo.u.t, either himself, or by the Means-
continued in the hands of the East India Company, but matters of peace and war they were utterly power- the late Sir F. Barieg, tor instance, 6ir Hugn Ihglish. and agenciea ot a Select Committeewto premise an reat
~' tnhether those exclusive privileges which the Company less. They knew nothing of the Affghan war until it MrdßoSanquet, slr. Astell, and others whom he might change in the Government of lodize T
- ain conyerncel
. had so long enjoyed under their charter should be con_ was at an end, It was beguu and ended .
by the ' mame—not one of them had ever seen India, In the myself that although yeu might change,. you might alter
~ • tinued or abolished. The question for decision now was President of the Board of Control, without their con- Period of the last charter—prior to 183 n—there were 26 without any•eerious evils, you would not be able to alter
a much more simple one. The question was one which sent or knowledge. He hoped, too, that the commer- vacancies in the Board of Directors, of which 'lO were the PrinciPal outline et that Government for the bett
e regarded the principles upon which the Government of cial policy which had been carried out itri this filled by -men who were not connected with ladle. Since —(Hear, hear.) Indeed, I was happy•to collect fr el'.
' In '
.- om the
t. die was• for the future to he carried on; whether the country would be extended to India, where it was cal. 1834, however, there was only one vacancy so filled, and Riglit Hon. Getitletcan th° President of tke
.Board of
~ , Powers which, by the Act of' 1833, were entrusted to the °elated to develop the resources of the country. If there that was• by a Member of that House, one of the most Control each in genteel were his views; and
,that oud
t. , hands of the East India Company, and which they had was any complaint to be made against the Court of Di- useful men that could be fixed on. The Court ef Di- and beneficial eff7cts bad .., flowed from the . GOvernrtent
~. enjoyed since that pertod, should be continued, and if con- rectors, it was that they had not paid sufficient attention 'rectors, he would say in conclusion, had no object in of India as i thus - administered.-t-ctreiti,' hear ) I '
itnued, Whether those powers should be in n w cur- to the subject of public works, particularly roads and- view, no wish whatever, except that Parliament should convinced d • • i mod -t• •• am
,un er the preseo. 9 g government with
• , tai
, . led or restricted? Theo were the questionas wyhicahYwere railways; and great improvement, too, might bit made arrive at that conclusion which should tend most to the respect to that most inepora,nt ofall pints. name' he
.. ie be -submitted to inquiry; and it was for Parliament now by putting taxation on a better footing. He would welfare of India, and conduce to the prosperity of the selection of ehe Goveruor-General, - who must haveYeufch
,n te decide theimportant question whether or not a Core- strongly advise the Hon. and Learned Gentlesnan to People of India.—(llear.) • vast power, t and must decide many queutions before in-
. Mitteeshould be aPPointed as the beet mode of obtain- withdraw his amendment. Sir R. H• INGLIS acknowledged his obligations to structions can • I . d d
: in- •
reach him,-- am penile e , both from
. that inforneation—a Committee selected frorn the lead- Sir J. W. HOGG had no-wish to prolong the •discus- his Hon. Friend, but at the same time begged to suggest experience ael f.
n • rom the nature of things, we brave settled
: in
, g Members of all parties in this House, without any BiOE, which he concurred in thinking would be much •an error in-one of his statements. He could assure his thatequestio " b r that we do •
n in such a'ma ne , get to India
, ••
:pertioular party view—in fact, with no other view than better postponed until the sConatnittee had made their -Hon. Friend that the services of his (sir In, Inglis's) men of the. greatest -eminence and ability.—(Elear,
~ ;
ttsir of• benefiting and Promoting, as much as possible, inquiry, and the House was in possession of the result, slate father, to whom 'he had referred, were facilitated hear.) The present Governor-General has shown the
i. In interests• of the people of India as well as of the Speaking for himself and the great Company which he and enhanced by the fact of a residence in India. Since greatest talon ain the- ddministration ef Indian affa. '
, hPeo
. ple of England ; and it was the opinion of the late, had then the houour to represent, he could only say their the time of Burke, Ihdian affairs had been a dinner (Rear, hear)land theas. peech or an Hen. Gentleman's:-
~. Ll,las.it also was of the present Government, that the ap. sole and anxious desire was that the most full and ample bell, • and they were so still. yet thouith this was a night cannot but rentind us that.- a near relation of his
.• Erf 'Theist of such a Committee would be the best mode information should be laid before the House arid the question that involved the interests of 110,000,000 of conducted-the gover ent during trials as severe and
~,;nigall'eitilitte the requisite information. On that occasion country, and as regarded the result of aoy inquiry which meneperhays- of 150,000,000, there had scarcely been tuccess as great as- ever occurred in India.—(Hear,
(Mr. Bantle) ld t enter into any discussion might be made, they had only one wish in common with " a HMIS& at various periods of the discussion.. With hcari)
.Seein. . T " th. kth •
. upon thosa.s. wou no t
t o , g that, e rejoice ,to in - e appointment
the view to the spiritual as• well as the temporalL in- of this Com
ad been made elsewhere every man in that House and that was that the result
. . with
reahoottatements which h , . . . 9 mittee, while it affords materials of le • 1
gm a-
• ' of Indi v
~‘ to the existing administration of the affairs r
o tbe deliberations in that House might be such as to- f that great era ire he Sir R H In lie ti
terest o p , ( . . . g ) on to Parliament, while it may elicit many valuable.
• de or as
hoped, therefore, that those to whom the inquiry
r d d h de in wh.
ich the patron. tend to the welfare of India and the advancement and was sungestions is l• 1 to chan e the fund •t l
. a
, ge bad teen d.s egar e t emo
.. . .5, . , . not Ike y g . amen a
ll fi d ros srit of 't He did n
1 tributed. These were a very tan p. es y i s countless inhabitants. ot feel b dl tdw Id t 't 1 'eh fl•
to e e ega e ou en er in o i wi aee ingot principle c o
s o. g vernm.ent in that country.—(Cheers.)
, proper sulf
be
. somee, jects for discussion, hut he thought it would disposed to follow the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
hat premature to enter upon such a discussion into all the subjects to whittle he had referred; but he the deep respoesibility that rested on them; and that Mr. GOULBURN said if the motion was in any way
duct of the in uir itself would be uided to f
the con .. . in y . g etter the Hens& as- to, its future determination, he
at that re
~ liereent °meat. He was of opinion, however, that Par- must say he had liatened with absolute amaeemeuet (in by a right sPirtt as regarded religion• There would not suoport it. But_his Right Hon, Friend had
. 'gotten ,dVould find it exceedingly difficult to devise a which he was sure every gentleman conversant with had been, as this Itight Honourable Friend truly clearly laid down the principle in his motion. first, ati
-be dtme .11 which such a vast amount of patronaee could Indian affairs must have shared) to the Hon. and Learned stated, a gradual increase in the means of spiritual in- to what was the operatioh of the Act d * h h
. lett-that d h ' " G l " ' '• ce 1793, and he (dir R. H. Inglis) believed House wer tdd • f . 'an
next w at t a
Jew__ e,t at would not be liable to abuses and ob- ent eman as he referred to every imaginable topac and struction sin eo e uce rom the inforniation thus ob•
Lune. If •
'be it were in tbe hands of Government it might subject: and he (Sir J. Hogg) should not have noticed that it had been found that in PrePortion to the increase tained to guide them to them- Judgment as to the new
e Used for
the increase of the fidelity of the measure which G
party purposes; and it might. be used for his remarks at all if it were not for hia concluding oh- of instruction so was overt:latent would propose for the act
• ' rally pu
ritish rule. And when he saw how Ce t co of the II -
, rei
e......rposes now. But if it were so, it was, at servntions. No Member of that House was justified in people of India to B .
t.
.13
en
' ' d• 1 - bine. . With that view he should give
the 'du's, spread over all parties in the House and making statements and charges without having full and imperfect that instruction still was, he trusted that the his or la support to the appointment of a Committee.
. couture?. tch 'ally turn their attention to pro- He should not hide - •
'. vernese_ . 9 ereas, if it were in the hands of Go- ample information upon the subject on which be ad- committee' would especl
and a word on the question if he
dh t o le. h * - t d t ' ' '
. , nthieehtent tt, would be used for the benefit of the party dressed the House. What, then, were they to think of vide for in. He considere t a
ffne is op was not suffi- ha .ne noticed i
e., q the-course of the debate a studied
.dreunhc,haneed to be in power. The Hon. Member for the statements of the Honourable and Lwarned cient to manage the spirit"! .! sirs. 'et so vast on ern- otntssien. ,°f mention-of one.branch of the inoiry which .
. by s'6u 4L.(IMr. Anstey) had occupied considerable time Gentleman with respect to the case of motonel pire, With respect to the cm! service, the effiaiencYiof
.he consmenrett we's essential to the :mein eutpot. • The
, ' Intipittetrlng into the case of Colonel Outran). He (Mr. Outran°, denouncing as he did almost all the the officials was beyond all Prais_et Mr. Canning mode matter heel been altogether •passed over by some Hon.
detail") would not follow the Hon. Member into all his authorities in India and ,at home, accusing them three selections—Sir J. Munro, ell'. Itilphinsdtonbe, and sir •M!emuleeree anzi had only been touched upon by his Hon. ,
Yet la;dultrn that subject, because the papers were not indirectly of the basest acts, and imputing to them the John Malcolm—and Mr. Canningraecdiare tst Jae one
,d`
.d (nir Itobtrt konlid). 'Dee great branch of the
.t, efore the Board of Control, and he was not, basest motives? The Hon. and Learned Gentlem had could be found who was better qua lis to (sending the inquiry he coOeelved on tit..to be to- ascertain how far ,
. 'nee,.
an . . g
, oeivralre, in possession of the facts of the case. Colonel been a short . time since told from the Tr a r - bench affairs of India than each of those three gentlemen. He the Act or 1833 blid curie
rem e Su ) d out • proper *Means of .reli-
edit., a was, no doubt, a very distinguished and a very that the papers reepectine Colonel Oarrain'a case had quite agreed with the Hon. Gentleman • (Sir J. inegit) di„us inTa?tion tor ehopeoPle of India. -The inquiry
s -01';'47 n; butUs he was not in possession of all the facts nut yet reached this eountry, and yet the HorL and that it: was . not necessary to be
Iconneeted with Lillie ought'ln!iscer.tai.n if Aosta means had led to the fevour-
' sei iv, °use, he should only observe on this occasion, that, Learned Gentleman made those accusations and chargee to manage Indian *Jails well. t wed advisable :to able re/muds calculisted upon when the Act was first intro-
, Ate.:: as he was acquainted with it, he thought the Hon. without inforaltng the House on what authority he kneed hava. English feeling, as well as lath= feeling, duced, an _ whether
..„they_•had been commeneurate to
. respweer had bet-, labouring under some great error in them, He had alluded to a circular sent out by the in . the . direction; _ veld therefored ith was not the extenslient.Of the ,Chrifitian religion throughout the
. Theteitat te many pits of the statemdnt he had made, Bembay Government. What was the fact? There proper to have only those men olecte w o were con- large ponu
,a ion (Iliadic. The Noble Lord had told the
. Mstei) was another question tipon which the Him. wire rumours prevalent that there were cer- uected with- India. He sheuld, therefore, not be dis.. Houie We• had conferred. great advantages on India by
, 110t4r had also rather misunderstood his Right tam indirect influences supposed to b„t work posed to make any material- alteeation in the-extshing having a s_uPel:ier judicial „re
s‘em• andby extending the
, to
__ riend (Mr. [ferries). The Hen. Member seemed in Bombay at the presidency which could pnoduce system. Tao stetement of the Hon. Gentlemen (Sir J. bene:ts
toht eudilocatiOa, Butthe Noble Lord, with a cau-
nitteltdiPrhosenhat his .Right Hon. Friend contemplated certain results. It designing natives could OnlY flsTg) was enough to show thefie was no corrupdon tn 40E1 e .o.g .t it •heceesdry. to
eneete ho, iiiiieh..
w.ii .
OU "Vibe from the East India Directors the right induce a general belief of thiii. kind, they would the neide of exercising. the patronage. He trusted no net the feeling of hid ow'n Mind -f b i allude tO '
~ ure ore o . , ,
, recalliu
'on of the Court one subject which he'e • • •
wee ea ~ g the Governor.Gen„al ot India. But, as be able •to extort money trout . the native princea alteretion would be made in the conetitutt, onsuleyed at was, the daty ot the ,
h 1 II i . to kee . ' '
'he oniaide remembered, his Right Hon. Friend expressed and courts, under the impression that money could 'be of 13:rectors, or ot the patronage; and when e, rem) - , use .
.p coustaently.in
.tight._ .lle referred to 'the
• .faterls--°ll upoa the subdectwbut deferred it to a applied at tne Pretideuey to . WWII' h b lected th I • dep ndent ect—the recall of a Guver- means of givingthe.
purposes, t ere y , . eony in e Photele oftlndia reli • . • *' '
gtoas instruction.
_ nen...,
'Governor of He knew that great Ater
t agreedentehnon. Upon one point his Right Hon. Friend intimating that it might find its way into the Ler-General—bad- been signed •by one _ t n h .
.d .
~ n , m .was telt mettle sabject Of the .
i ttot - .with the Hon. Member for Yougnal—natnely, in hands of members of the Gavernment. Such a report Bengal, two other members of die &tuned. and Other reqn intro MUM Ot,Uhrtattanityinto Id' ' • ' - -
n itt.- It was suppesed
, likwevancipating that the labours of the Committee were was calculated te have a most injurious effect; but whe- who were experienced in the affairs of India --yehen.lie tihat excitement and inaurrection would follow if Chris-
, side; it;° bii iirought to a close during the present ses- ther or not, the Bovabey
.Govarnment had sent out a cir- sa4. that such an act was sustained hY Persons dd'lnP" "hitY• "rev!) .agemPted to be• introduced. but citctimt
i then
_, tit he did not think that that was a reason why "Jar t') its agents delring them to probe- the rumour tent t 9 form• an Opinion iitajn it_he ah.,,id be very borry stam:ss had since comettolight which had diapelled that '
d tnould
it a away. ()pinion. In one of th.
tit, it . not appoint the Committee now, and leave to the bottom, and expose the authors of the rutnour.• to see thopower, as it at present existed, ta-e.. .. , _ . e oldeilr charters, that of 1698, it
fin!! . •'•
. Patai_qu'rY to be carried on and completed in a future Amengst the men who lent a ready and willing 'ear to Re th°ught the Proposed Commiseion of Inquiey woutd was spec', d y, erijotned_ou the CoMpany, that wherever
za
teement, if ufuture Parliament should so think fit. that object was Colontl Outrun. There were teW 'men. be inconeistent with the decisioh which Parliament was they sett e or e rid a
teen.theii• inva th h . id' '. t
y ey sou no.
"a mean •
merely introduce a Ctiriatia • •
the eie time he thought he might venture to assure who had rendered better service to India than Colonel soon .to give on. therenewal of tho charter, and he there-
.. tt .minister, approved .of by ,
se the Archbishop of Clint
• Pitntait::" that the existence or non-existence of this Outram. He entered into the inquiry
.with his whole tore hoped the Hon. Member would not put the lieu-- - . erbury, but that -these ministers
shouldlearn the native‘laii
'in dsciii:ee would not weigh one feather in the balance heart and soul, and with reference to the -case of the te the trOuble of dividing on his amendment. , (pages • d h b to '
mor er t e etter
in t
0 convert the Gentooe an • • .
; might e_ g he Government as to the course which they wretched widow to whom the.flon. and Learned 'Gen- • Lord JOHN- RUSSELL •said: Sir, there has heen a n other- inhabitants, and convert
h t urer f ' h
..bruese:4sern it their duty to pursue with reference to tleman had alluded, Colonel.Outram probed to the bot- much argument already bestowed upon this subject, thee t encei 9
at
oP tCf "h.' The great •question • was itiet-
. nssainel:e present Parliament to a close; and he could tom the infamougoonduct to which she had • been sub- I certaiuly do not feel it•necessary to offer more than a war
ha Pale cr se ' naitg t•in-consequence of events at home,.
- their •cone a Hon. Gentlemen who were anxious to meet jected, and thoroughly 'exposed it; and Colonel Mutram's very few remsrks. . I rise, indeed, principally .to .dtate hut t -eY the Cd
theimportance of extending. the bless-
''of this co tituents at. an early date, that the appointment conduct in the matter had been fully approved of by the what dn. my own mind appears to me the view with singhs web.
e_DJ.9!_e„
~0 India;
,and he hoped, therefore;one
' ,40ibg so. `b„l/?-eitiees, Would not stand in the way of their Government. With regard to the subsequent proceed. which the committee was . adpointed.- I.wish to take of t e ° deeexttsout_lus- Cominittee would •be to sugnest
..:Ing it ho 'a° non. Gentleman concluded by express. ings, they bad non yet got the papers. -The Government this opportunity of statieg my opinion upon the matter, mea'ns eht tif tuber g C•hrk4i'aitY to India. It appeared
. eee,__.,.,
.. pe that the,Hon. Member for Youghal would not had directed an inquiry to be made at Baroda, and 'it because' from some 'expreasions .it might be supposed to him, t
.a h
lele'ria44 a/4 difficulty on the subject,
•r..53,111S amendment to ivision
. Sir E. COLEBROM ad e ----
was made there in open court, and from the notes taken ..that.the committee about te be appointed Was .one to de; that toquiry wou x 1;
concerned, hey pee
i di't-tte"--(Hear.)..As far as inquiry
satatement made
.1) IKE had heard with satisfaction the on that occasion the information must have been derived (Ade the future government ot India —(flear, hear.) was . ,
th now men in- this country•coni-
Reiries) with refeY't the Right Ron Ge 1 (M which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had partially That was not the meaning of . the Honourable Gentlee petent to give , e _ii
nt eman r. tnealmittee the - be t• f • '
very s- in orma-
. ren,ce to the t *
n evens. branclk of the •
-tires of India had been intru ezant to which the na- doled Out to the House. If the Hon. and Learned Gen- man. It must be the intention Of her Majesty's Govern-, tioonf o
mei`occasions th subject. . 'ailed been urged
. Ministration; but'be should haatved with offices in the ad- tleman were now present he should have asked him meat that they shall retain in their own hands the pewee o or
h that an att at "the -prejudices. of thee•natives
' greater satisfaction
.had it be e listened to it with still whether he w" there ag the advmate of Colonel of makieg, when the fitting time arrives, such proposie were su.cdt_ . y
..empt to disaeminatethe•Principles-
en memo, .
lenity amongst th
' statement of the progreas made in i Panted with some Outram, and whether 'he had derived his informs- tions as they may think wise and politic, and that of
i.lari
eta would be attended with
short Of limier -
,:_tiou end giving greater efficiency teratizoving the condi. tion from the Galltne Officer. What be apprehended Parliament retains in their own hands the power ef not mg t
0_
e_
_.a _
,_ rdection. • Butin- the recent •go-
'lse servant, in India. With regard to subordinate na- was the Hon. and Learned Gentleman's taking up a deciding .upon those propositions.—(Rear, -hear.) I, vernmenf
tf.,....itn,1340, _eon dismivered that, without
.°,,f,the.' Hon. Member for Youghae it seetnthe amendment naked statement so injurious to the Government and to wish therefore to, say that I think the appeintment a the aid o ell
___l; (tee toe •Yede-, these prejudices had been'
nch Cotehrooke) .-to involve this material, hhdf to him (Sir individuals, when the facts.and the whole ease were not the committee extremely useful and desirable, and that. overcome; etemen,etitiablor ntno.st tneritoriiiiis of Indian
nnaaeld 'only be carried upon the suppoert;eect, that it before the louse. As to the manner in which the Hon. -if I were ia. the Government I should concur in its officere hadetee
..
_eq. tteinettoe the natives to forego
's•Onie Was disposed to convey a wholesale nc
that the and Learned Gentleman spoke of the Court of Directors appointment. The committee will be Ueda' in the way the revolting rite ot
, , 9!ttee•—•(l-lear, hear.) He (Mrt
dme Goiernment of ludia.—(Hear.) It entliesuore on the question was too momentous—the interests involveti otOollecting information and making suggestions; and, Goulbburn) co.no4yeots.tvnatuet-was mot given to shies:wintery
iipt,tdr,ied, indeed, without setting up an autliori°tt be were of too great weight, too solemn to Permit of his this is the view in which it was appointed, more than aid for t e.bedericime of i
'lour of .intal•Y, not to increase its wealth,
ie—',, 'a ' which -would .be independent of the Geierin indulging in recrimination; hut the result of the inquiry a Committee,entitledin.any way to decide upon the vast' or exhi. it t edve a
this co"ree; be belieVed there was
to4lt:Stf `that cohntry; and before the Howie emu' would show whether .the Court of Directors had pro- question of the future government of India. I say this a duty impoese upo .
r-
e. _ ttritrYteethe high, moral duty
ta t 1 tion as that, he thought _et perly discharged their stewardship. The papers laid on the morn readily, because in my own mind there is not .of taking such meant e es , prudence," combined with
ehee,e , s roug a rase u . i the table w I f the future o- zeal, would justify, for the puepose . . . .
ou d show that the population of the British much deubt as to -the general nature o . g , . of extending over
a "1" consider well whether it might not• take territor ' the kn 1
_ome. . . .
yin India w•
, ith reference to the square mile, vernment o . .
f India. lam satisfied with the experience that heathen oodntry. .... ow edge .an • -
tnie• • Plaashre for improving the machinery and ad- was doubt
e t e ileum TO
f h h Ch ' • " ligiOn.—(Hear, h • d the truth of
fe eistreti • f h tof India. As to the princes
anege - on o t e governmen e that of the provinces governed by native which we have had, since 1833, of the 0
_ , and so far fr b ' peration o t .
• (6 re is one rea ear.) 'Sir Thomits
which hallow -to be iequired into.. I will not enter Munro saidee„The ~ g t question-to which we
af „:4111 of the Committee pro Posed by the President I, 92, the Ri 4 om mg no surplus of revenue from Aot
- arreingemente_:
b ''ae -B • d l h th ht they 'would a list of yeag t
4 hit oar of Centro , e oug Ron. Gentleman (Mr. lorries) had read into the question of the • way in which we have obtained shoaltilook m ell.Oer , . ,
rs wherei •sult of our. Governmer,
--annielY. what is to
hot —eelit "le -t0 discharge those functions if they did and the period exte dn there was a surplus of revenue, the. goveenment of India. The Hon. Baronet says that bp ..the. finell re
d *healer that cha ton the character
..
diteoa join a long investagation with regard to the land revenue was
thee_
utl down to the Affghan war. The Divine Providence has name.d us, to be the
drulets of thet oftt,he peodpret••
' a(ndlear, hear.) - -He
(rlitteter will be kaised
reoe ,a et thd adtaintstration of India. . A House of Cora- crop, but to the pro! ated, not with reference to the great empire. Bo that as tt
.May, we fin ourselves in or lowere . ..,..
r••Goulbnrn) as-
... a tin . . ld not- f lfil
'noes the o • uetive powers of th I
e and. In many this . generete . .
'on with a vast responsibility imposed upon serted this' countey •eou • u the wishe d'
vgeri fe^jeltnittee could never discharge the
.duty of provi . altivator h san obe
tee at Xnggestion • '
s with -regard to these deta .
ils and -ad been l a oveniment to n a.
I. di In so doin our • cts of these reat statesinan otherwise -th
•
the proprietor. A. mi . a most converted-into us of giving g g
Lie g an by dissemi-
Peint t • f all inter nute starve av be to rovide for -the natin the truth of ,rdigion; •
wee,
.1,„• 0 , which their attention ought to be directed rights o felted were as 3: as effected—the chiefeet, our greatest care mu.st . p . , , g . . . and hetruste ' •
d the labours
would prove th
°erten:led, and then of the welfare.of the millions committed to our sway. That .of the present eaciatry . ; at exertiona were'
het " —tie farthe • . Id • th hiner of go- net rents 20 per cent. was all
f th "d •
t neteet e y.cou improve e mac 7 .
d prietor or tenant 18 otted to the cultivating pro- being Our first care, it is -obvious that there are- Some ;increased Without. any -0 e angers .being -ineurred
4444 ,_. tor India, as well as improate the spirit an . , . a per ceat.
to- ive them which they had which were heretcifore ttnticipated.-n(
the talooklain advantages which we cen g t . . . Hear •
ht , hear.) ' -...
real othtne.nervice inthat country remembering that the or middie-man, and 62 pet cent.
1/BY thou ht t
111,et.'sueeterntiaest ef India must be in India itself meat ; and in those cartes .to the Govern, either not at all, or -in • a very modified proportion.- In Sir He 'WILLI:JUG. .... _ ...ga_ ""Y were very.de-
where there was - the first place, our great power - ought to enable us to flcient in tlieir infiiimation ot wn 6 passed in India.'He,
4.ieste.'l.4",rmilicrE ex reased his satisfaction that her no middle-man 30 per cant.
was
• finance. T
tree - - aeovernment iPtad de • 4 A . h this the tenant, and 70 per cent. to the Gove
t nos . . terminew to -eat wit
, nin the souther •• • alletted to guard, them against the ravages of civil broils and petty for instanod, would select
rnment.. That wars -which ia the secret of much of the misery under *ell that a greatievenhe
.was collect .
ed Su 1
heY knew very
ndits—some-
sere le stion in a spirit of fair in uir because he had system was be gu n dtvitnon of the ' ' tto 24,000,0004 • . •
equal tam the directors q 3r,
courted an inquiry, and he was rettes, and was being extended to the northern d- Mali- which the people heretofore groaned. • We ought to be thing from • I fi,Q00,0006.- . , but ie was a
expenses had inter s •
Rh ceet_ent the istricts able with our knowledge of the true principled') of jus- Melancholy !fact that the eased in a
en. eesult wouldprove that the had not ne- All matters of peace and war were vested entirely • * h t .tion,—(llear.) There ve
°,l:ltire:_••l44e interesti f the l y h Ma•est 'a Government, who forwarded- their -in nee, to give them impartial justiee. We ought to still greater Vropor ,- ,
___. iti as no-authe'•
Toti;,;•!",,ate,tte, heare) He wPoeoufdawcir mg_ylifterf tof
thehir eartchesj,
noYt to the, Court of Directure, but to the seedrets-t. .
ttitord them the ability which the great
.abundance in ;hied offiaire unfortinmeelytt.wn co
Ilherenfor gi:e informetion
"teat dene,[t.the Honourable Member ;oar x voteh
.or
Mt e es
Committee consisting of the chairman, deputy Chair- will8i: country •of
••.ability for political administration to the loustnon the j
811!15•- efcControl"steouled e thought the
oug al ( r. t , permit; In the next place, •we ought tie pro- Pretiderit of the f3eeed o • . a
..,, . anntially. make
l'ear:'''' 4E, he , could • brin If If •
g • tmse_ to believe that the man, and senior Wm e ,
b r and it was thsir duty- te tranes - 'rid
°hie e ' -which he . eia. The whole responsibie catie7" - . t
and that is the moa essential ofell--for the edu- an Indian' hudget,',as 4,04:011,.gin'h Y,_l°
i tended ' • -. •
d ; and wno
ee_. et
.-wh; , . proposed . would really attain the mit them immediately to In, _ , , n . A
en and the. impsovement of the people of India, both should also. be abld)to. exlitlian w""ar "tinges nei h
ot hA. ion thla COUlltry ou ht to-
g have in view. thy rested in that respect en
•th her Besjesty s tioverns in rewire - .
.g t
'44 " atteed • h h II f Directors. But the ad sth -to modest measures' of government end the take p/aCe.--<Heitr. Toe mutilation ef dispatchee was
eo ie.., vitt I e onourable Gentleman who meat, and not with the court o mumstratiou of •t. drk-f'h ' * d ' d - k ' . h hould he abolished, a cl•
n which
u tedrt spoken Ur Baillie in th• •
the Lagoa 8 ( • . ) inking that a 'general administration of the country, _ h
F,,
in matters judi- non in tla • Juliette, an 1 everse or t eir e Lica- spondee meter tent 3 ..
ose rules of practical morality which ought to could wAt he weltaccomeliabed until they.had .. _
e, puree , ene out to Lithe would hardly answer cial, financial, and fiscal, was vested by law in t e tett -govern nations. I 'ben • - - - ' •' ' Rear.) a reopen-
lave in all these respeets, if We sible officer to deal with.—d . . '''' •
t'adouree °Yen of the Honourable M b h' ' d d by the Directors. have hot fully and -
'Air et tile que t' f em er imseld India Company, and was con ucte
s for 'degree, under th -
completely, still we have in a great Hr. MANGLES. zooid mot concur in the obserra-
Ili,. ed ma, •. 3 tons is taxation and land tenure re- All the papers and dispatches from India, as well a . . . e present Act, perforated oUr duty to thins of the Hight gen; Genileman the Member for th
*3ll • `are consid t•
dee. of Id. era ion, as well as the d the tne Pe()Pte (if Indi
legal BOA- ludia. came betore the Court of Directors; they ha . . a. Under our s th h . U • ' 'Cle 'd (Mr. Goulburn) that the Go°
ide , n .1; 'and the House would short' • • e.,cu- been those ware beiveeen - way ere aye not niversity ot am rt ge . -
4 ' 'Yn 'th .y have to inception of the latter, which were tramee by the e , small , States which end in the. vernment of this cotr itry shauld- take part in tbe • reti-
red . e er the 1 g andizeinent of • oue r i.
ea,,,,,4. , • aw commission was to be abolished tive of the court, who thee. submitted them to the coat- ag r '. • . et Lose pets Id la -Id h • - • '. h ' emit • oftheir doing ew --- le
en t't4 at- -e • fut ' at all events, end in
.the•ge , Y inn% .ut w ic , gious I. ffatrs, at t (tired,' '• ; t • . -- wont,*
ad„gbandee , -,„ ure day. The Hon. Member for mittee which had the charge of that department, for the
1 U d gradation and affliction of the nl IS fa th I• "t the had in- mew: .- The ausin -
ner our away there kasda - • e, ;• • ott yei 9. 00)je, .
~1
~.. . - les7 " 1 ""
tit_luity ay.7, mid great stress on the hardaMp and ine- court ;as divided into co ' h h h de peq-e;
manttees; an. teas t e lee . . eeh
_introduced an Abe Geverninent weal° hold ;the sca even Ydto alto*
ration of justice-'more••
Igo- I • •
hem that- -., . r, and tax; but it must he rememb .
administ impartial •. d • - - -.-- • f the.:GOI el .
• ' •
tr!Ill ti. T WrilS.a• tax erect patches had to uudergo this first ordeal. If they were • .
e than-has heretofore bee- . ,an , I believe? • fair play. totthe diseemduation 0 . . P, to protect
wing eettstemee e to-which the natives of India had epproired of, well and good; if not,
.then the chairs were - more pur . n a-newn to the people the reihsioilar '' d 'll t dth W ilitvedtte waY.—( Hear.)
Under our awa y,.an c ow r
see
et/tea-he „,'''es
,Iroin thee immemorial under both summonedeand the guestion was settled by them • The of that country. Y men of the 'de ' of .eieetion deterr d bl
e 'lab w-g..weanomedan sov r ' It was a tax too d- f d 1 'cl 1 r • bT • have gone to India from this co_ . g eatest lie thettgltd the present-140de ea e
aree,e. .en raw- e eigns. . , , ispatch was a.terwar Bal on the talent . tor a week, a t Ines
onntina d untry, whether and eiheriencled men on their reeurn from India .from
rt --.lp 0r,•., y assessed, did not Dress with great and s b entl discussed b the
Y beard. After this it occupy. g .
.11 the supreme n as Governor-G Directors . i
enerac spiking a piaci() On the Board.of .
.. , - t would be•
vt'Lle -' ' PeGPhs ec Id' '''';/- 0, rd to the w II se"' Y more humble capacities e h
hpialoti eytteda
01,.. 1
d.,, . la, ~ o. , reha .
,f. ~ ms sent to ,he Boerd of Gintrol, where it wee or wheth,er In. _ ti! as those a 'Freat impriinertieht. if 'gems means were devised bes'
m oor Mr. Eldi,iti
lhold %lb./4 ihongh the ,
. n lA, he 01r. liarninge) wie.) t, , edoped or rejected. But, . never t ' ' homal uor
:-.1_,../f4s, the • law pro. ' filled let new 1 . .
„.,
lately introduted th • • •
norm • ' n' . ' '
:Übder w .03.gentiefnon Cnuld'. - • d ,
he,,adnuteen
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TUESD A y v 14] N iL N G,

APRIL

GO IA) MINES,
Colonel THOMPON begged to postpone his motion
on;thia buil et to The 27th root.
PASSEN ;MS ACT' A IIENDMEN P BILL.
The House h..vteg gone into o.anulittee on tho Bill,
11r, S. HERBERT n,lid the Huse was aware chat
this Bill was the erm,uation of a report fit ni.ched by a
Select, Committee, wirleh sat last year to inquire into
the eperatiou of the Passengers A=lt of 1849. Is referred
to the pas•lage of Irish emigrants between Great Britain.
Ireland, and the United States; and in order that the
measure should be carried into effective operation it was
necessary to obtain assistance by referring to the United
Stat©s Passenger Act.—(Hear, hear.) The xistin
United States 13111 was more stringent than thee Britishg Act, and as the fortner would be put in force on the ar-
rival of the vessel, they had therein a guarantee that
the protection provided by the Act would be tint in
force. But the present. Bill proposed a new regulation,
which bo'believed would be found objectionable. The
food was to be served out to the passengers uncooked
twice a wrek; but from sea-sickness or want of accom-
modation in the galleys the passengers could not always
cook their food. Now, he thought it would be very ad-
visable to procure the assent of the American Government
to modify their Act so as to meat the requirements of the
case.
Sir J. PAKINGTON would have no objection to
carry out the suggestions Oche Right Hon. Gentletnan,
provided it could be done without any unnecessary delay
to the passing of the Bill.
After some observations froni Mr. Duncan and Mr.
Cardwell, which did not reach the gallery, and which
Mr. Goulburn complained ha could not hear a word of,
the clause was agreed to, as were the other clauses up
to 15. .
On clause 16, a conversation arose as to the power of
the tribunal of appeal between Sir .J. Pakington, Mr.
W. Brown, Alderman Thompson, and Mr. Achierley.
Mr. W. BROWN 6uggested that the magistrate should
be empowered to take the opinion of seamen, provision
merchants, and other competent persons, on any point of
dispute, so as to avoid the loss of rime consequent on the
appeal.

Air. F. BARING thought it would be well if the
Government would take into c-msideration the pro-
priety
,of settling some summary aad practicable power
of appeal.
Mr. S. HERBERT said an appeal might be inconve-
nient to the shipowner, but then the question might in-
volve 'he safety of hundreds of lives.(flear.)
Sir J. PAKINGTON said' the emigrant officers, who,
under the clause as it stood, would have the power of
dt-eision, ware very competent, and were naval officers,
acquabited with nautical inatt,rs; and the appeal would
probably be to parties loss competent to decide, and
baying no nautical knowledge at nll,--(Hear.) How-
ever, he would consider the question, and endeavour to
see if any practicable appeal could be-!itigested.
The clause was agreed togas was clause 17.
Cltuses- 18, 19; and 20 'were agreed to.
:On ci4roe 21,
.2,fr: S. HE complain.,( that the difTerence be-
tweeh Ltu eceommodstion for pas!etovers in hei,lth sa:d
in bialstwss wit, not suffi.iently
After a short cinversation, the clause was agreed to,
as were el•.‘ur:i:s up to 48 inclusive.
Clause 49 wai agreed to, with a verbal amendment
euggest,d by Mr. W. BROWN.
Oa claus4l,
Zr. S. LIERiIERT suggested that "rund-rs" -should
be subje,ted .to some banige by which they might be
linoWo to earl grants,

Sic J. PAKINGTJN said that the necessary pre.
eau, ions tad been tulwn to ensure these persons being

known.
The clause was agreed to.
The rc wattling clauies of the Bill were then agreed to.
A new oJause fora4 added rdving to the licenting of
portere, and the B:11 srai ordered to b.. 1 reported.
Tile .Exoticcper-bills Bill went through Committee.
Tho Linen Manufactures (Ireland) Bill went through
Committee.

POOR-LAW CONTINUANCE BILL,
On:the order of the day fur the second reading of this
Bill being read,:
Lord D. STUART said that, though he believed the
poor-law rt quired amendment in several points, he
vrouldnot opposs ,the second reading of this Bill under
present, circumstances. , The Government was composed
Of Members who, when in opposition, were active op-
.ponentS of the poor-law, and he hoped they had only
`proposed thiii Bill in order to obtain time to . amend the
whole system. Ile, however, did not think that this
Bill 'should continue for two years in operation, and be
gave 'nodes that in Committee he would move an amend-
inent to. hinit it to the period of one year only.
• Mr. WAKLEY complained of the powers given to
the Poor-law Commissioners, and instanced the late
case.of St.. Paucrati, when the governor of the work-
house was dismissed by the guardians, and notwithstand-
'‘,4' Which these Commissioners, who knew nothing
whatever of the case, have stepped forward and declared
thsit the representatives of the pariah had no authority
to dismiss their officer. •
". Sir J. TROLLOPE said that the Commissioners had
merely demanded the reasons for the dismissal of the
governor, or that he should be reinstated in his situation.
• The Bill was then read a second time.
The Poor Relief Act Continuance Bill passed through
Committee.
CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELECTIONS BILL.
On the motion that this Bill, as amended, be con-
sidered,

Colonel SIDTHORPE and Mr. HUDSON were severally
opposed to going on with this Bill at such an advanced
hour of the night.

Sir A. COCK BURN brought up two clauses for the
purpose of their being printed. It was proposed by
them to allow a reasonable time between the summons
and the attendance of witnesses, and to protect the
Commissioners.
Ultimately the clauses were ordered to be printed,
and the third reading fixed for Friday next. •
Colonel SIBTHORP gave notice that he would then
move that the Bill be read a third time on that day six
months.
The House adjourned at One o'clock.

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NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.
PORTSMOUTH, APRIL 19.—Commander Von Donnop,
lately mail agent in one of the Cape screw-vessels, has
been appointed to the command of her Majesty's screw-
vessel Vulcan, vice blaster Camm wrier Penn, super-
seded by the new regulation of the Admiralty, by which
tr.op-ships are id future to be commanded by captains
and commanders.
The Echo, with two flits in tow, proceeded to Cowes,
this morning, to remove the depot of the 36'h R-liment,
370 strong, to Southampton, en route to Pembroke.
The Arethusa, 50 Captain Sym..uds, was towed out
of harbour this morning by the Tiger steamer, with•
royal yards aeros3, and joined the squadron at Spithead.
The Tiger proceeded afterwards to test her engines and
machinery along the measures mile.
The Sampson steam frigate, Captain Jones, has -re-
ceived her crew on return from leave, and will be ready
to go out to Spithead and join the squadron assembled
there to•morrow.

The V.suvius steam-sloop, recently brought to this
port from Plymouth, has been taken in the steam baain
to make good defects.
Wind, south; weather fine.

DETONPORT, Aran, 18.--Lieut. Stevens, of the Steam
Reserve, ha,s been appointed to take charge of the steam-
sloop Desperate. She has taken in two months' pro-
visions, powder, and other stores, and can be ready for
sea at any hour should the Commander-in-Chief at
Devonport give his powerful assistance.
Sailed on Saturday morning the Devon, lighter, Bond,
master, with Mr. Brown, second-master-attendant, and
party, for Glasgow, to navigate the Brisk, steamer, from
Glasgow to Devonport.
Resistance, troop-ship, embarked a detachment of the
97th Regiment on Friday, and sailed on Saturday for
Halifax.

The sailing-orders for the Pestongee Bomangee, con-
vict-ship, arrived this morning, and she sailed at one
P.X. this day.
damoaze, lighter, Wood, master, is takine, in stores
for the Comet, stirveying-vessel, at the Isle. of Skye,
Scotland. She will return via Liverpool, to convey old
stores to Devonport.
We had a shift of wind yesterday afternoon, it having
been east for seven weeks, with the exception of two or
three days. Yesterday it shifted to south, and then to
S.W., but very light. The whole fleet of wind-bound
vessels got under weigh, above 200 in number. This
morning it came in to north, a fine breezy, and has com-
pletely cleared the Sound, Catwater, Stonehouse Pool,
Stc., of all the merchant vessels.

In the Sound—Dauntless. In Harbonr—lmpregnable,
St. George, Leander, Magicienne, Vixen, Britomart,
Sylph, Avon, Hotspur, Confianco. In Hamoazs—Camel,
Tortoise, and Manceavrer lighters.
APRIL 19.—The Rolla left the Sound this morning to
renew her task of relieving the homeward•bound ships
detained by the easterly winds in the chops of the
Channel. The Nautilus brig, Lieutenant Dolling, which
has been employed on the same service, has ijuss made
her numbers, and is coming into the Sound.

THE MAGELLAN PIRATES.
Great excitement prevailed at Valparaiso in conse-
quence of the arrival of the Virago (her 'Britannic Ma-
jesty's steamer) and Chilian brig of war Meteor, accom-
panying the American schooner barque Florida and Bri-
tish brig Elva Cornish, with the revolutionists of the
Magellan Straits. They all landed on the 24 ch. Cain"
biaso, the murderous leader, being heavily ironed, was
conducted in a birloche (cab), but looked very cool, and
amused himself by twisting his moustache and nodding
to any chance acquaintance in the crowd. There are
350 in all, 180 of whom were taken by the Virago from
on board the Eliza Cornish in the Straits, the balance
having been brought from Chiloe, where they had been
taken to, while on board the Florida a counter revoie.
tioti Ila boaid having mastered Cambiaso and
his re", • ' and deliv;ved the yeses' up to the
legitimate authorities. Captsin Talbot, of the Eliza
Cornish, Mr. Cornish, pa,seeger, and son of
the
vessel's owner, Mr. Shaw, owner of the Florida, and
eight other (including one woman), were all shot in Coot
blood without any apparent cause, but just to satisfy
i Cambi aso's craving for blood. As soon as the
news
reacted Valparaiso of the massacre on board these, yes.
"5. alikyateb wei sent to o,4no2odore Al`Caul,i, at
Calico, than ,on :his way to Panama, who immediately
returned to the forer port with the Uoited Sates it.
fri-
gate Raritan. These vessels had been employed to con-.
vey the rebel troops from Valparaiso to Monte Video.
When the Virago passed through the o
the on ber
way from England to the Pacific, Camit,,ul otv
formed
-the
plan of taking ber, by inviting the officers to b abanquet
on shore, there giving thempoisoned drinks, and .sending.
.poisoned proVisiozis on boird. Fortunat;:ly the apothe-
cary Ortho colony, to his honour and
) credit, n, sitively
affair,
refused to be a party to such an iafara .',..,us.and the •
threat of being shot, therefore, did not shake him.
this, Gambles° and his rainiouhave probablys
received
tkeir deserts.