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be most ready to listen to their complaints, and even to
award them compensation if it could be reasonably claimed,
Ele preferiid llyde park to Battersea-tieldA as a site for the
building; and he should, therefore, press his motion to a
division.
The House then divided, when there appeared— •
For-the motion ..
.Ag:iinst it. .... .• 221
.lNlajority against the motion —llB
. COLONEL OUTRANI.

ANSTEt M.)ved for copies of the papers and corre-
spondence concerning the investigations made by Colonel
Ontrath, C. 8., into the existence of corrupt relations between
the GuiCowar or his subjects and certain oil:leers of the Boni-
bay Government; and also concerning the removal of the
said officer from his post of resident at Baroda.
' Mr. lIRRIES said that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
was entirely mistaken as to the groundwork of his motion.
Those documents that have been referred to had not as yet
come into the hands of the Government. The Court of
Director 4 bad not as yet had time to deliberate, upon the
case. It was, therefore, quite premature for . the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman to make such a motion as the present.
The queitiou was not in such a state as to be made a fit
subject for discussion in that House. When the documents
were received, and in such a st,ate as they could be produced,
the Government would be ready to lay them before the
House.

Lord JOCELYN said that he considered the explanation
given by the Right lion. Gentleman as satisfactory. He,
however, thought it was a question in which the honour of
the East India Company was deeply concerned. It was due
not only to the Company, but to the honour of the Gallant
other referred to, that these papers should be produced as
speedily as possible. ,
Sir J. HOGG defended the courco pursued by the Bnubay
Government in reference to the subject before the House.
He could not, however, be induced to enter into a discussion
of the matter in the absence of those papers which would
inform the House of the real facts of the case. The Hon.
Member had been told the documents bad only arrived by
the last mail, and that some of them were under considera-
tion. After such a statement, be believed the Hon. Member
in proceeding with his motion had taken the course most
likely to produce the result he complained of. He felt called
upon positively to deny the assertion of the Hon. Member
that any of the civil or military servants of the East lodic;
Company had either boon accused or convicted of the cor-
ruption imputed to them. He had shown the Hon. Member
- the passage in-the letter of Colonel Outram, in which, alluding
to the fact that corruption bad been imputed by the native
subordinate servants for their own purpose, he stated
that he had laboured to bring to punishment the indi•
viduals through whose means attempts had been made to
tarnish the name of the British Government, and that he
had brought those miscreants to merited punishment. With
regard to the case of the widow alluded to, it was one
of greater oppression than had ever occurred even in the
East. The child, which was said to be spurious, was taken
from her, and died ; but it was not murdered, and she was
deprived of her fortune. Colonel Outram, on hearing the
rumours that had been raised, instituted an inquiry, and
had the individuals who raised them signally punished, the
principal delinquetzt having been sentenced to eight yea&
imprisonment. The woman was restored to her caste—the
injury she had sustained was proclaimed, and all was done
that could be done by Colonel Outram, whose conduct had
received the approbation of the Bombay Government. He
had not yet had time to read the memorial, but the atten-
tion of the Court el Directors would be given to it. The
impression created by the remarks of the Hon. Member was
that the civil and military servants of the company had been
guilty of the corruption imputed to them., If the ion.
Member had any such charges to make, he should make
them openly,- and not by dark and vague insinuations.—
(Hear, heir.) If there was any scandal at all in the case it
was in casting imputations on men discharging their duty at
a distance. (Cheers.)
After a few words from Mr. Scholefield, Mr. Baillie, and
Mr. G. Thompson,

Mr. ANSTEY, in reply, said he was not the person to cast
an imputation on any one where he could not make a charge.
What he had said was that imputations had been cast on
officers of high rank in the Company's service, and that Colonel
Outram thought they were of so a grave a nature as to call
for an inquiry. After hearing the statement of the non.
Gentleman he should not press his motion to a division.
The motion was then by leave withdrawn.

Mr. ANSTEY next moved, "That it be an instruction to
the Select Committee on Indian Territories that they do ex-
amine Colonel Outram, C. 8., touching the alleged corruption
of cflicers of the Bombay Government with bribes from
Baroda."
Mr. HERRIES hoped the Hon. Member would see that
this motion also ought to be withdrawn. The House was
not in the habitvf giving instructions to a Committee which
had been appointed for a specific purpose, unless some docu-
ments or facts were first laid upon the table which justified it
in doing so. -
Mr. G. THOMPSON thought that the circumstances
which had been stated in connexion with the name of
Colonel Outram constituted a suffieiet reason for the motion.
Mr, IiEItRIES solid that it was no doubt within the
scope of the instructions to the Committee that they might
undertake the -investigation of this subject, inasmuch as it
had been referred to them to consider the mode of adminis-
tration of all the affairs of India, and he dared to say there
would be no disinclination on their part to investigate any
subject which was of-public interest. But as the Committee
had power to-take this course if they thought right, it was
quite • unnecessary for this House to instruct them further,
unless some particular facts and documents had been laid
before the House to warrant it in taking such a step.
The SPEAKER said the Committee had full power, under
the order issued by the House, to take the subject referred to
in the motion into their consideration; but no rule of the
House could be clearer than this that no instructions could
be given to a Committee to do that which they could do
without such instructions.
Mr. ANSTEY, sifter the statement of the Right Hon,
Gentleman, would not press his motion to a division.
The motion was then by leave withdrawn.
FRIENDLY SOCIETIES.
Mr. SOTHERON moved the appointment of a Select Corn-
rnittee to inquire into the operation of the law relating to
friendly societies. Ile trusted it the House acceded to his
motion, that the result of the inquiry would be to put the
House in possession of such a body of evidence as wou'd ma-
terially assist it in placing these popular institutions on a
just and proper footing.
After some conversation the motion was agreed to.
Ou the motion of Lord J. MANNERS, leave was given to
bring in a Bill, intituled, "An Act for Registering Births.
Deaths, and Marriages in England."
On the motion of Mr. AGLIONBY for the third reading
of the Enfranchisement of Copyholds Hill,
Sir J. STRIiaLAND moved that the Bill bo read that
day three months.
After sorne,discussion the house was ordered to be cleared
for a division, but the amendment was withdrawn, and the
Bill was read a third time and passed.
The Friendly Societies (Salaries and Expenses) Bill was
passed through Committee.
The Repayment of Advances (Ireland) Bill was read a
third time.

The Episcopal and Capitular Revenues Bill was brought in
and real a first time.

Adjourned at One o'clock.

Colonel Clifford'paired off in favour of the retention of the
Crystal Palace, with Sir Charles Douglas against.

HOUSE OF LORDS, April 29.
Lord REDESDALE presided iu the absence of the Lord
Chancellor.

CRYSTAL PALACE.
The Marquis of NORMANBY presented several peti-
tions in favuur of the retention of the Crystal Palace.
The Noble Marquis added that he dissented .faira the
prayer of the petition, considering that c uch a step would
inrolvo a breaekof public faith.
INSPECTION OF NUNNERIES.

The Earl of RODEN presented petitions from several
places in Scotland praying " for a measure to place
nunneries uuder`Gevernment superintendence.
• 'GENERAL ROSAS.
Earl GRANVILLE rose to put a question to the
Noble Lord at the head of Foreign Affairs as to ,what
his Lordship.termed the extraordinary honours which
he, saw by the public papers bad been paid to General
Roses on his arrival at Plymouth on Monday fast. He
wished to know whether these honours had been paid to
General ROS&S in accordance with official instruction.
The Earl of MALMESBURY said that until he
had that morning received 'a communication from the
Noble Earl he had not heard a word on the
hubjcet of his reception. Certainly no order had pro•,
needed from this Foreign-office, and he might say from
the Treasury. The only, communication which the
Goveriainent had had with General Boas was to
ask leave to, 'reside in this country as quietly as
possible as a private individual. He could- not, there-
fore, - tell why 'the authorities had received Gene-
ral Rosas in the manner they had, except it was
from n very natural feeling which animated them, to
show kindness to one whose conduct in his own country
had always been of the most kindly disposition
towards British merchants. That certainly was a feel=
lug which he could not blame, because, though we might
not ba able to pity the fate which his own conduct had
brought upon him, yet, as he came to this country as a
fugitive,.and seeking an asylum, it certainly was not the
thud to remind hirmof his faults, and to seek to visit them
on -him. • -

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE inquired if there
had been any Treasury order. Jaime i to pass General
Boswell effects without Search and duty?
The Earl of MALMESBURY said that he was not
aware, but it was very probable. It was, however, a
ifyg great .mistake; to suppose that. Geueral Bons was possessed of
in
tunwor
to a
loif wealth; the fact was that he bad
The Duke or, N ONLE LORD,
grfitat poye:t country, almost destitute, and, in a state of
3r.
particular _order
General Rosas on boarill3e
Was a general order' to taakleiritish
,had said that no
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The Earl of MALMESBURY said
, beit
believed •
was
there had been such• OD occupation, Correa that . and that
Monte Video was now in the possession of the Brazilian
troops. He was informed, however, by , the l3razilian
Minister, that this occupation was only intended as a
temporary measure.
The subject then ( r PP
1 n ed.
EXCHEQUER BILLS' BILL.
This Bill rimed' through Committee.
SHEEP CONTAGIOUS DISORDERS
PREVEN-
TION BILL.'
'
This B mm'ttee.ill also passed through Co
SANITARY CONDITION. OF THE METROPOLIS.
The Esrl of SIIAFTESBURY rose to move a
.reso-
lotion that the' sanitary condition of the metropolis re-
quires the immediate attention and interpositiou of her
Maiesty!s Government. He would then proceed to, state to
their Lordships the consequences of the present condition of
the many thousands, both in a moral and sanitary point of
view. He believed that, if legislation did not interfere, the
Australian Emigration-office, before long, would take the
very flower and vigour of their rural population, whilst the
remainder would flow into the towns, where they were ter- .
rain to under& the deteriorating until -
process, premature
old age took them off, in many instances leaving a sickly and
se u less offspring.—(Hear, hear.) The population of this
metropolis,
metropolis, as also of all great towns, depended altogether on
provincial supply. . The census of 1851.-not yet fully Pia.
Illteci--yolcrWAt more oVikios ;suit 0 A til " of
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LiONDON;

1611. No great-town could eustain, its population from its ;
own resources:` The populatioa cf • the metropolis was sus-
tained by immigration from the rune' parts. which, if diverted
away, the population would become extinct in a very few
-years: In the parish of St. Luke, by. the ceesue of 1841 e the,
numbei: of those born in coantry .as' compared wi:h these
hem in the parish Was 34 'per cent. ; in St Giles's, 42;
M erylebone, 54; Pancras, 39;" Kennington; '43 ; Lembo.,
40; Westminster, 48; Lambeth, 54; Newington, 48. - In
almost every instance half the. poprelation-was not born in
the town, bat in the country. -Ire Manchester the•out.of-
town births, as: compared with the ,town, were ,35 per
cent.; and in Liverpool, 4a.. As regarded. the mertality,
very much,the same might be said. So that with mortally
to such an extent, simulteueoul. withdheeMi gration drain,
there eould be no deubt that. the result Would be as stated—
' a very -considerable'reductitin' in the amount poptiletion.
It had been remarked by an eminent statist, thqt •" If the
metropolis were surrounded :with a wall of brass, so as to ex-
clude all ingiese,, the population world become extinctin
acne 20 years." ':lr was, theieforee foe their Lordships to
, onsiderthe matter, otherwise the result might be a positive
scarcity as regarded all the great,-eivil, social, industrial, and
441etery purposes of the country. By the return of the Re-
gistrar, General it appeared that, the deaths in the first six
years between 1840 .and 185', both included, were et scerlet
fever 9,872, whilst in the second six years they reached
11,798.. The deaths by diarrhms in the first • six years of
the same period were 4,200, and -in the aecond six ' years
13,e59. Of scrofula; in the first: six years, 3,098; in the
second six years, 7,016; and these were alto ;ether inde-
pendent of the deaths resulting from cholera. By the report
•ot last year it wosild be seen that there were received from
all parts of the metropolis 877 cases of fever ,and of these
there earn°. Irene one side. alone of Gray's Inn-lane 211
cases. One house in that lane had 12 .cases, and another
20 cases; , so. that Gray's Innnelanee alone„ fureiehed
one-fourth of the mass; of disease in that year. • Iti the
towns of Cheshire and Lencashire, .which were also fed
from the country districts, the mortality was even greater
than m Landon.. In Lancashire there. was an exeess of
deaths over births, and the same might occur in London.
These'evils are confined to great towns, and were sure to
exist in thickly-populated.districts, where sanitary arrange-
ments did not prevail. In the towns of York and Selby.
mortality had been very great of. late years; and here in the
metropolis—where parties crowded in courts , and alleys, ,
having neither water nor drainage—hundreds imbibed
disease and death.—(Heer, hear.) Let them look at the
present state of our intramural interments. He believed It
was universally admitted tbat. that was an execrable
practice; and yet, nevertheless,, it was continued, and was
still decimating 2,000,000 of her Majesty's subjects. Recent
inquiries proved that those graveyards were exhaling an
amount of mephitie gas which was most pernicious to all
who came within reach of it. It should be recollected that
those masses of dead bodies not only poisoned the air, but
pervaded the 50i1,.. and tainted the supplies of wafer,
Sir James Macgregor, who had attended the army in
Spain, gave an illustration of the mode in which the de-',
composition of dead. bodies affected the health of the
living. He said, that ,on one occasion about
20,000 bodies load been interred ill the space of two or
three months, and. that the result bad been, • that
the troops who had remained in the neighbourhood
had been generally attacked by fever. and dysentery.
In this' metropolis there were annually interred, in a space
of 218 acres, not less than 50,000. bodies. In Bunhillifields,
one of the oldest of our graveyards, whiCh consisted of on
area of less than four acres, there had been interred, according
to a register which hid been very imperfectlykept, between
the years 1713 and 1832, not less than,107,461 human bodies.
In the ground attached to St. PaticraiChurch, of which one-
half had been used as' a burial plaCe for at least six cen-
turies, there had been deposited 'the remains of more than
twenty generations; and assuming thirty years as the life-
time of each generation, there must have been interred there
1,500,000 dead bodies. He would next pass to the question
of drainage. Many portions of the metropolis were most, im-
perfectly drained, or had no sy stem of drainage whatever. In
the neighbourhood of Whitechapel, and in several other dis-
tricts, it waseasy to find by the smell the ill effects of the defec-
tive arrangements.upon that subject. A survey'had been made
of what might be called the'Subterranean works of London
and the result of that -survey 'Would, he felt assured, startle
any one who might be made acquainted with it, because' it
revealed the portentous danger to which we all, and more
especially the poorer classes, were exposed, from the presence
of an intense and deadly p.oison..iu our atmosphere. It ap-
peared from that subterranean survey that there . was accu-
mulated in undrained cesspools in this metropolis an amount
of matter which would cover an area of 700 acres to the
depth of six inches. From these cesspools there was necee-
sarily thrown out every moment an enormous amount of
mephitic gas. Many of the cesspools were under houses, and
some of them were only separated by a boarding from rooms
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tice, of affording people an abundant supply of
water, he would refer to what had happened in the city of
Hamburgh. Not Many years ago a large portion of that
city had been burnt down ; and those who had been charged.
with its re-construction bad shown,the most earnest and en-
lightened desire to make the best possible provisions for the
health and comfort of the inhabitants. They had sent over
here for an engineer who might have the most complete ac-
quaintance with the principldaffeeting the sanitary condi-
tion of the people, and they had resolved on entrusting to
him the management of the. supply of water in their 'city.
Mr. Lindley had accordingly gone over to Harnburgh, and
he. had taken the necessary measures for supplying every
room, from the bottom to the top of every house, in that city l
with a constant and unlimited flow of water, at a cost to each
occupier of something under a penny a week. And what
had been the result of that supply of water in Hamburgh?
Why, it appeared from a statement of the medical men
of that city, that since that supply had been furnished,
cutaneous disorders, which had previously been coiin-.
mon among the working classes, had become almost
entirely unknown. The supply of water in London was
of a far more unsatisfactory character. He had him-
self visited a court here to which a flow'of water was fur.
nished at irregular intervals, and where the inhabitants
had been in the habit of losing hours in waiting for it,
'until they had at length stationed an old woman at the
top of the court and paid her aixpence a week f r giving
them notice when the supply should have begun to flow, and
when that time arrived the people rushed to fill with the
water every variety of vessel. - (Hear, hear.) Ho said that
such a state of things was a disgrace not only to this
country but to the age in which we lived; and he hoped
,their Lordships would not allow the session to close without
recording. their anxiety to' remedy those evils. The
city of •Paris• stood in a. much better position in that
respect than London. The late King, Louis Phi-
lippe, had devoted much • time and attention to
that subject; he had got a turncock 'plgoed at the corner
of almost every street in Paris, and' the water which was
so supplied had previously been well filtered. As far as
the supply of Water was concerned; • the people of Paris
were fully fifty per cent. in abetter 'condition than a large
portion of the .inhabitants of London. He would next
proceed to'consider the state of our courts and alleys, and the
general condition of the dwellings of the poorer-
metropolis. In the year 1843 a survey of those dwellings had
classes in the
been made in anticipation of the coming cholera; and Mr.
Grainger had made a reporte-after having conducted that in-
quiry. From that report it appeared that according to the
uniform testimony of medical men, the dwellings of the in-
condition; that they were filthy, ill-drained, ill-ventilated,
dustrions classes in the metropolis were in a most deplorable
health, and comfort ; and that there prevailed in them ex-
and deficient in every arrangement demanded by decency,
treme misery, sickness, and mortality.' -According to the
evidence of Mr. Lloyd, a surgeon, the interior of
condition,
those houses were in a most neglected
and were filled with an impure atmosphere; and there were
cases in which as many as ten persons slept in one room.
Then there was the state of that famous place called
'Jacob's Island," in which the houses were built over a
stignant pool, from which the inhabitants drew their sup-
plyi of water. There were several other districts Will'
'ere hardly better circumstanced; 'and it was no wonder
that the elkera should have ravaged suth districts. Let
him show them the effect of even a-slight attempt at re-
medying those evils: In one of those districts the parish
engine had been brought. to bear, for the purpose of cleansing
it; and when the sewers and. cesspools had been emptied,
and lime-wash had been applied, the• cholera bad instantly
abated. There was another place called Tindars-buildiage,
in Gray's Inn• lane, which was well deserving of notice, be-
cause it exhibited almost 'all the evils to which he was refer-
ring. He had received last year a statentent with respect
'
to the condition= of that • locality so strong, that he
had thought .it desirable to visit it " himself. He
had gone there with Dr. Southwood Smith ; and be
could state that whit they had seen there had far exceeded-
anything it would be in his power to describe. That was
the more remarkable, because it was a place which at first,
sight would not 'strike one as being peculiarly filthy and
unwholesome. . It was a narrow cotirt,• with a tolerably
clean pavement ; and it was. only on going into the houses ,
that One saw the length and breadth of all the misery and
mischief there. In one of those houses not less than twenty
cases of cholera had occurred. He would state the 'Condi-
lion of a single house, which Was by no means one of the
worst. The interior was dirty, filled with a foul stench from
a asepool f the floor of the cellar, which was below the level.
-of the main sewer, could not be drained, and to remedy that
hale' had; heed dng, which was filled with impurities that
coed only be removed by baling them Out' Some-of, the.
houses had been in so filthy .a :condition that, it had,
been
utterly impossible for him to examine theme because he
could not, even for one moment, have endured the intensity
of the horrible stench within them. He believed those
were fair representative cases, and ho would undertake to
show that what he had stated with respect to those houses
was true with respect, not to 100 or 200, bat with respect
to 1,000 or 2,000 houses in the metropolis, and with
respect to the condition of several hundreds of
thousands, of its inhabitants. There were other nui-
sances equally great and detrimental. In' some of
the densest portions of London numbers of works
were carried on of the most filthy and. "pestilential character.
There were, for instance, in Lambeth the bone-boiling fac-
tories; there were 'the lay-stalls in Whitechapel ; and there
were in Bethnal-green the night -yards and places where hu-
man ordure was manufactured into manure for exportation,
All these processes very prejudicially affected the health of
people living in the neighbourhhod where they were carried
on. • He had frequently heard complaints made of those nui-
sances, and made in terms calculated to excite one'acom--
passion. Be had seen in Bethnal-green a large pond, about
an acre in,extent, into which the desspools.of a great portion
of the neighbourhood were emptied, and which presented an
enormous exhaling surface; and the complaints made by
persons exposed to that nuisance were perfectly heart-rend-
ing.' A labouring man had at one time fallen into that pond ;
011 apooisuotnqouusite
and the foreman had assured him (the Earl of Shaftes-
bury)' that although the poor mare could not` have
populous districte.—
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not by Englishenea but by
these districts in consequence 'of the
because in no other capital in foreigners,
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the Poorer
theand to see
It was impossible to go among
nieious effects—noral, social, and physical—p ger-
ro uced by
these evils. In their moral effect they created discontent,
exasperation of spirit, recklessness, indifference to 'cleanlineas
and to order, and extravagance. Hundreds and 'thousands,
male and female, young and old, were driven to the gin-palace
and. the-pot•bouse by the wan t of domestic comforts ; and theee
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