The Sun.
London, England, 1864-07-13 00:00:00

It had been said that the Scottish Episcopalian clergymen
were inferior in education to those of Exgland, but he
thought that when we were obliged to take theological
students from St. Bee's and St. Arden's, the English
Chuch ought not to throw stones, for the Scottish clergy
were educated at the old Scottish Universities, and
and also had a special training of their own at
Glenalmond. The bill now before the hoase had been
thoroughly sifted before the House of Lords, and he trusted
it would be sent back with as few amendments as possible.
Mr KINNAIRD rose to move as an amendment,—
"That a select committee be appointed to inquire how far
any privileges which may be conferred upon the clergy of
the Episcopal Church in Scotland would interfere with the
Treaty of Union between England and Scotland, and into
the expediency of removing at the same time from the
Ministers of the Established Church of :Scotland the dis-
advantages imposed on them by the Act 13th and 14th
Charles II ,c. 4. The main. object of the bill, he believed,
was to open the door for amalgamating the two churches,
and it was thought by many it wa intended to be the first
step to making the Episcopal Church the Estab-
lished Church of Scotland. (Cries of "Oh, oh.")
He contended that this measure would be of no benefit to
the Church of England. These Scottish clergy were not
required, for there were at present in the Chracch of Eng-
land thousand of curates who had no prospect of obtaining
ecclesiastical preferment.
Mr A. Slam and Mr HADFIELD both rose to second the
amendment.
Mr WALTER wished to know, whether in the event of
this bill passing, a Scottish clergyman admitted to a bene-
fice in England would be at liberty to go back to Scotland
to efficiato there. If the bill were not carefully guarded
it would be setting up a sort of spiritual Schleswig...Hop_
stein in Scotland.
Mr G. DUFF said that most of the Scottish bishops
were in English orders. The bill would not, he considered,
iaterfere in any way with the Established Presbyterian
Church of Scotland. This was a peculiarly curt question,
and he trusted that the odium theologicum would not be
introduced. With regard to this being a first attempt to
make episcopacy the religion of Scotland, all he had to say
was that a more crazy idea never entered the mind of man.
(Hear, hear,)
Mr NE WDEGATE thought it injudicious to commit
the powers proposed in the bill to any individual bishop.
Ho should vote for the committee recommended by Mr
Kinnai. d.
Mr BLACK, as a Scotch member, had great pleasure in
supporting the bill,
Mr STIRLING rose to express his thanks to the hon.
member for Oxford for introducing the present bill, which
he was sure would create a feeling of pleasure in the minds
of Scotch members generally.
Colonel SYKES supported the bill.
Mr HADFIELD opposed the bill.
Mr LOUVERIE said he should vote for the bill, because
it provided simply for a civil privilege, and had nothing to
do with spiritual privilege.
Mr KINNAIRD said he would not give the house the
trouble of dividing.
The bill was then read a second time.
POOR LAW GUARDIANS' ELECTION BILL.
Mr BAINES withdrew this bill.
INSOLVENT DEBTORS' BILL.
This bill was withdrawn.
PETTY OFFENCES LAW AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr. WHALLEY moved the second reading of this bill,
the object of which was to enable a husband or wife to give
evidence when one of them was charged with a petty
offence.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL opposed the bill.
After a short discussion the bill was withdrawn.
COUNTY REGISTRATION VOTERS BILL.
The order for the committal of this bill was read and die..
charged:
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS AND REGISTRIES
(IRELAND) BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
JERSEY COURTS BILL.
This bill was withdrawn.
POISONED GRAIN PROHIBITION BILL.
Mr BERKELEY moved that the house go into com-
mittee on this bill.
An HON. MEMBER moved as an amendment that the
Speaker do leave the chair that day six months. (Laughter.)
Mr DAWSON said if this bill passed mutton N‘ould
cease to exist in Ireland.
Mr BERKELEY said his great object, in bringing this
bill was not to preserve the lives of foxes, but to prevent the
destruction of sheep, pigs, and dogs.
The house divided, when there appeared—
For the motion 6CI
Against it
Majority —22
The house then went into committee, and progress was
reported.
HARWICH HARBOUR ACT AMENDMENT BILL
This bill was read a second time.
EXPIRING LAWS CONTINUANCE BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
MILITIA BALLOT SUSPENSION BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
ELECTION PETITIONS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was withdrawn.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the house adjourned.