The Sun.
London, England, 1852-01-14 00:00:00

LONDON.

Yesterday meetings were held at the Sun, Blackheath,
at which a number of men still in employ reported that
their several shops had determined to devote one day's
wages per week towards the support of their brethren;
at As Crown, Lambeth, adjourned in consequence of the
numbers to the Teetotal-hall, Lambeth-walk, of the men
of all classes recently in the employ of Messrs. Mends-
lay and Field, whore resolutions wore agreed to gene-
rally approving of the proceedings of the executive; at
Ratcliff cross and elsewhere, votes are being taken on
the proposition to advance 10,0001. for the co-operative
scheme, but the returns will not be completed until
the 20th.
Last night there was a meeting of the Executive
Council of the Amalgamated Society, convened for the
purpose of organizing committees and appointing trea-
surers to receive subscriptions from the public and from
the men in employment towards the carrying out of the
co-operative project, and providing for the immediate
support of the non-society men thrown out of employ-
ment in consequence of the present movement. Upon
this subject a resolution was egreed to to request each
member of the society who was in employment to sub-
scribe a day's wages per week towards the support of
their less fortunate brethren. It was also determined
to appeal to the public on their behalf. Confident ex-
pectations were expressed that the society would be
enabled to afford very substantial pecuniary assistance
even to the non-society men and labourers thrown out,
but as this depends upon the number so situated, and on
the amount of subscriptions received, it is dangerous to
hazard an opinion as to what the weekly stipend will be.
The secretary was directed to write to every branch,
requirieg an exact return of the number of members of
the society, of society men, and of labourers thrown out
of employ.
It was natural to expect that the resolutions agreed
to at the meeting of the employers' association on Mon-
day, and advertised in the newspapers of yesterday,
should engage their attention. A good deal of time was
accordingly occupied in considering them, but as almost
each member of the council put a different interpretation
upon them, they determined that they were not in a
position to discuss them, and by that kind of tacit con-
sent which may be explained by stating that they re-
verted to the previcus question, the resolutions were
voted incomprehensible.
The following extract from the December report of
the Amalgamated Society is perhaps worthy of notice:—
" The circulars on systematic over-time and piece.
work are gone forth. The manner in which they shall
be carried into effect rests with the members generally.
Our advice is that there must be no shrinking—no
doubt nor fear—but a bold determination to succ,ed.
With that success is certain, and nothing is easier than
to discontinue over-time. An employer cannot with
justice compel a man to continue at work after he has
concluded his day's work; and if there be but unity of
action—if there be an unanimity of will andpracti,
those who refuse to continuo at work cannot be dte:
charged, for an employer cannot discharge all his
work-
men; we, therefore, anticipate no difficulty. We are
prepared to see a simultaneous course of action
adopted, and the principle of shortening the hours of
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evils, and when that be done, and done effectually, we
shall be in a position to work out other measures which
are calculated to confer great benefits and lasting social
advantages on our society."

OLDHAM.
On Monday morning last an aggregate mee'ing of the
operatives in the iron trades at Oldham, who Lave been
turned out of employment by the closing of thew work-
shops by the masters in that district, was held at the
Working Men's-hall,
Horsedge-street, Oldham. There
were about 2,000 wo
rkmefi present, and the following
resolutions were unanimously adopted:—
" 1. That in the opinion of this meeting the Execu-
tive Council of the Amalgamated Society have acted in
strict accordance with our views in carrying out the re-
solutions come to by that body with respect to piece-
and, further, that we
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sinister motive in the
steps which have been taken by them.
2. That in the opinion of this meeting the statement
in ihe press that the workpeople of Messrs. Ilibbert,
Platt, and Sons, intended to turn out if the terms were
not conceded at Christmas, 1851, is a wilful add deli-
berate falsehood of the parties who originated such state-
ment, no such notice having ever been given by the
we rkmen to such eNct.

" 3. That in our opinion the statement that Mr.
Newton, of the Executive Council of the Amalgamated
Society, originated the agitation respecting discharging
labourers upon machines, is entirely false, inasmuch V.

I it was cotnmenced and conducted by [the men of Old-
ha,!n. "ih '"*, the sar.elLia ur upproLation of the Execu-
tive Councils
" 4. 'llla4 the cause of our demo d respecting machines
was in consequence of the fort man of the establishment
of Messrs. ll:bbert. Plitt, and Sons, compelling us to
learn labourers, at 15s. a week, so as take our situations,
when they were instructed with the view, as they have
expressed it, that they should conduct the works with a
few leading hands, labourers, and apprentices.
" 5. That the statement in the public press that the
workpeople of Messrs. Hibbert, Platt, and Sons, have
desired to continuo piecework for a week longer is un-
founded; the fact being that Mr. John Platt threatened
legal proceedings if they would not fini.l their work,
though the notice for their works to be entirely closed
on the 10th inst. was posted up in them at the time.
" 6. That inasmuch as the public press have so misre-
presented our case, we call a public meeting to be held
on Thursday evening, Jan. 15, in the Working Men's-
hall, Oldham; and most respectfully invite our employers
with their foremen. the press, and the public, so that all
can judge for themselves.
" N.B.—The employers having refused to execute the
work of the public, we beg to inform them that we aro
prepared to execute orders for repairs, jobbing, &c.,
which will be executed with the greatest dispatch, and
upon the most reasonable terms. The application to be
made to the committee, sitting daily, at the store, in Rat-
cliffe-street, Church-street, Oldham."
We learn that the works closed at Oldham against the
men are those of Messrs. Ifibbert, Platt, and Sons,
1,636 men, skilled and unskilled; Messrs. Lees and
Barnes, 400 men; and Messrs. Saville and Wolstenholme,
252 men. The workmen allege that all the other firms
a.e at work, and, though they are not employing so
many hands in the aggregate, yet they have in their
service quite as many of the skilled and society hands
as have been turned out from the three great establish-
ments alluded to. In addition to this, they assert that
on the average the cotton factories, which are exceed-
ingly numerous there, employ four hands each, which
are generally society men, and picked men of the various
branches of the iron trade to which they belong. This
remark also applied to the cotton factories at Man-
chester, Oldham, Ashton, Bolton, Preston, Blackburn,
Burnley, and all the manufacturing towns and villages
in the district, so that they calculate very largely upon
support from these sources, independently of the funds
accumulated by the socity.
Messrs. hick and Son have printed and issued the
following address to the hands in their employ:—
" You are all, no doubt, acquainted with the nature
of the demands which have been recently made upon us
and other mechanical establishments by a body of men
styling themselves ` The Amalgamated Society of En-
gineers, &c: The persistence in these &mends and the
extent of the combination formed against us, have left
us and the heads of other similar establishments no al-
ternative but that of closing our works, in preference to
submitting to such interference and demands; and we
have, therefore, felt obliged to issue the notice, with
which you are all acquainted, of our intention to close
these works on the 24th inst.; and we may add that we
see no prospect of a resumption of business until
this attempted principle of dictation is aban-
doned. We do not address you on the sub-
ject of the reasonableness or otherwise of this body of
men stepping in and assuming to interfere between you
and ourselves: the measure is, so far as you and we are
concerned, sufficiently condemned by the fact that so
few of you have joined this body, or approve of their
proceedings. But this disapproval does not put an end to
the interference; and in co-operating to effect this we
feel called upon to assure you of the deep regret we feel
in being driven to sever a connexion which has so long
subsisted between us and many of you, more especially
those who now concur with us in opinion, and entirely
disapprove of the measures that have been adopted
towards us. To them we would say that nothing but
the strongest conviction of its absolute necessity could
have induced us to adopt the course wo have resolved
upon. We know it will seriously affect all parties con-
cerned; it will involve many of you in mush undeserved
privation and suffering, and us in heavy pecuniary loss,
while the customers upon whom we all depend will sus-
tain much temporary inconvenience and annoyance,
until they have arranged to provide themselves else-
where. Bat, if the measure appears harsh, let it be re-
membered that it is not of our seeking. If the innocent
among yon appear to be suffering equally with, or more,
than those whom we think to blame, it must be borne
in mind that our customers, as well as we, are in the
former class; and if we could have devised any means to
break down the combination in question less harsh
than the indiscriminate course in which we have felt
obliged to concur, it should not have been
adopted by us. We feel it unnecessary to refer particu-
larly to the goodwill and kind offices whiok have mutu-
ally characterised our long intercourse with each other
in our several relations towards each other, and which
we believe to have resulted in our mutual benefit. We
have seen no reason for that flow of feeling to be in-
terrupted, nor for its natural results to be diverted by
the interference or dictation of others. We have known
and acted on the principle that our mutual interests
were inseparable. We disclaim all right to impose on
others the particular modes of dealing they shall adopt
towards each other, and we will not be dictated to by
others as to the relations which shall subsist between
you and ourselves. We again assure you of the deep
and sincere regret wo feel in thus terminating our con-
nexion with you, and we would urge so many of you as
disapprove of the proceedings of this amalgamated body,
for your own sakes and interests as well as ours, to use
all your legitimate influence to stop this movement,
which, if it could succeed (but it cannot), would we
firmly believe benefit none of us. To the small minority
of you who have given in your adhesion to this ill-judged
measure we would say pause and reflect before it is too
late; you may, by perseverance, now inflict a blow
which will recoil with tenfofd force upon yourselves and
families, and commit an injury which a long life's toil
may be insufficient,to repair.---We are, yours faithfully,
" BENJAMIN BIER AND SON.
" Bolton, Jan. 10, 1852."

RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS.
BRISTOL, JAL 13.
STOCK EXCITANGE.—There was little or7nothing done in
the share market to-day. The only transaction reported wad
—Great Western, Original Stock, 85%._

STOCK EXCHANL
GE.—E The share marlket has been dull
and inactive to. day, and great difficulty has been found in
making sales. The transactions were as follow :—Black-
burn, Preference, 6 per cent., 163/4—Caledonian, 15%—
Chester and Holyhead, Preference, guaranteed 51A, per cent.,
lo%—Lancashire and Yorkshire, 61%—Ditto, Fifths, 73/4 dis.
—London and North-Western, 1153,4—Ditto, INew Quarters,
2% p.—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 33 - Mid-
land, 66—South-Eastern and Dover, 20A—York and North
Midland, 221/2—Nevicastle and Carlisle, 801,x.
MANCHESTER, JAN. 13.
SToci ExcHANaz.—There has been a tolerable amount of
business done to-day, but prices were generally weaker.
The transactions were as follow :—Ambergate, 31,E dig.--
Eastern Counties, 644—East Lancashire, 15 7-16—Lanca-
shire and Yorkshire, 61 . Ditto, Fifths, 7 11-16 dis.—Midland,
57—Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 33—South-
Eastern and Dover, 203/4—London and North-Western, New
Quarters, 2:3/4 p.

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BIRTHS.
OF A 80F.
On the 11th inst., at Upper Eccleston-place, Eaton-square,
the wife of R. P. Oldershaw, Esq.
On the 10th inst., at the Royal Marine-barracks, Chatham,
the wife of Colonel Ellis, C.B.

OF A DAUGHTER.
At Worthing, on the 10th inst., the Lady Marcus Hill.
On the 10th inst., at Wing Vicarage, near Leighton Bliz-
zard, the wife of the Rev. P. T. Ouvry.
On the 11th inst., at Earl's-terrace, Kensington, the wife
of J. T. Longman, Esq.

MARRIED.
On the Bth inst., at the Catholic Church of St. Aloysius
London, Henry Watson, youngest son of the late John G,
Parker, Esq., to Marian, youngest daughter of J. Rorauer.
Esq, of Gloucest, r -terrace, Regent's-park.