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better to live under a mild and tranquil despotism—
(A laugh)—that to be constantly changing the consti-
tutional rights of the people. He hoped that the Noble
Earl who had been called upon to form an Adminis-
tration would, within a short period, state to the House
the principles on which he proposed to conduct the
Government of the eountry, and the nature of the
measures he intended to submit to Parliament.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE could not help en-
tering his protest against the censure pronounced by the
Noble Earl who last spoke upon his Noble Friend the
late Secretary for the Colonies (Earl Grey) for the very
judicious, and, as he (the Marquis of Clanricarde)
conceived, the not only justifiable but necessary remarks
he had made upon a portion of the statement of the
Noble Earl opposite. Ile thought that upon such an oc-
casion as the present it was advisable to avoid any wide
and extended discussion; but when he considered the
particular question to which the Noble Earl opposite
(the Earl of Derby) had alluded, and the language he
had held, he thought his Noble Friend was pertectly
right in expressing those sentiments, in which he (the
Marquis of Clanricarde) cordially concurred. He must
remind their Lordships that this question was not first
forced upon their attention during the present session
by his Noble Friend (Earl Grey) or by the late Govern-
mtnt, but that the Noble Earl opposite (the Earl of
Derby), on the very first day of the session, thought it
so necessary that the Government should express an
opinion upon the subject that he blamed them for omit-
ting such a matter in the speech from the Throne. The
question was not alluded to in the Speech or in the Ad-
dress, but the Noble Earl thought it necessary to declare
his opinion that, at the price of cora which now
ruled, tho cultivation of wheat in this country must
cease to an alarming and dangerous degree. If, then,
that was the opinion expressed by the Noble Earl (the
Earl of Derby) on the first night of the session, he
thought the ambiguous language in which he had now
referred to the subject was fairly remarked upon by his
Noble Friend (Earl Grey). He (the Marquis of Clan-
ricarde) understood the Noble Earl opposite to say that
his opinions were unchanged, and that as soon as he
cculd got a majority he would act upon them, though,
until he leld a majority he would not endeavour to carry
them out.—(Hear, and some expressions of dissent.)
The Noble Earl, as ha understood, said that as soon as
he had a majority the corn-laws would be changed, but
that as long as the majority of the country was in favour
of the existing laws he would retain them. He thought
such a statement was fairly open to objection on the part
of his Noble Friend, for it left every transaction in this
country depending upon those laws in a state of doubt
and uncertainty. Although he (the Marquis of Clanricarde)
agreed in the main part of the doctrines laid down by the
Noble Earl opposite as to the conduct of this country
with regard to its foreign relations, Wale remarks fell
from the Noble Lord which, at this particular moment,
he had not beard with satisfaction; neither was he en•
tirely satisfied with the mode in which the Noble Lord
had touched upon another subject, with reference to
which he thought the Government ought to be more
frank and explicit—what the Noble Earl termed, on the
first night of the session, the Protestant securities of this
country. The Noble Earl (the Earl of Derby) had, on
the first day of the session, gone out of his way upon
that subject, and declared that either the laws as at pre-
sent constituted were defective, or that the late Govern-
ment was deficient in energy in the carrying out of those
laws. The natural inference must be, either that the
Noble Earl intended to alter the law, or to administer it
in a different spirit from what had hitherto bees the
case. He thought it was very desirable that the Noble
Earl should lay before their Lordships fairly and fully
a statement of the views and opinions of the Govern-
ment, as soon as they had had an opportunity of duly
considering the important questions now in abeyance.
The Earl of ABERDEEN (who spoke from the Op-
position side of the House) said—lf I may venture to
detain the House for a few moments, I wish to state very
shortly the impression which the speech of my Noble
Friend opposite (the Earl of Derby), or some portions of
it, has made upon my mind. Although the Noble Earl
below me (Earl Grey) has expressed very much the sen-
timents I entertain upon one subject, nevertheless there
are ono or two points to which I am desirous of re-
ferring. My Lords, long and intimately connected as I
have been with the eminent man whose untimely fate
we all deplore, and whose loss—in proportion as the
difficulties of the country increase—we shall have more
and more cause to lament, I think this is not an unfit-
ting occasion, the very first which presents itself, for me
to declare a determined adherence to his policy—(Hear,
hear)—and a determination to maintain, as far as in my
humble power lies, the permanence of that great
system of commercial policy which he established.—
(Hear, hear.) I have no right or authority to speak for
others; but I shall be much surprised and disappointed if
all those who co-operated with him in establishing that
policy should not be found to entertain the same senti-
ments which I now express.—(Hear, and cheers.) My
Noble Friend opposite has described the principles upon
which he considers the policy of this country connected
with commercial matters should rest; and be has on other
occasions, as well as to-night, adverted to the possibility
of the imposition of duties on the provisions of the people,
if not for protection, at least for revenue. Now, my
Lords, this distinction, I confess, is not very intelligible
to me.—(Hear, hear.) It appears to me to be shadowy
and unreal, but at all events to me it has no applicatien,
for I am equally prepared to oppose a duty upon corn,
whether it be for revenue or protection.—(Hear, hear.)
I think the timo is past when any such tax could ever
again be levied,—(flear, hear.) I consider the system
established by my late Hoaourable Friend to have been
already eminently successful.—(Hear, hear.) I am
convinced that, by a perseverance in that system, its
wisdom will become more and more apparent; and I
therefore take this opportunity of declaring my firm ad-
herence to that legacy which ho has left to his sneers-
sore —(Hear, hear.) Ido not wish to enter further into
the topics of the speech of my Noble Friend. I have
already adverted to a point on which I am totally at
variance with him, and, as far as I know, there are no
other subjects upon which I may not hope to have the
pleasure of giving him my humble support. In all that
portion of his speech in which he laid down the course of
policy he meant to pursue towards foreign powers I
entirely acquiesce. Ho and I have acted together for
the last ten or twelve years, in office and out of office, in
full concert and communication on these subjects, and, as
far as I am aware, there is not the shade of a difference
between us. In all that he has said to-night I fully con-
cur. Upon the other portions of his speech I have no
observation to make, aor is any called for at this mo-
ment. lam quite aware—fully aware—of tho great
difficulties with which my Noble Friend is encompassed,
and I can assure him that he may rely upon receiving
from me, whenever it is in my power, a cordial and a
most sincere support.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM begged to suggest to the Noble
Earl opposite (the Earl of Derby) that the House ought
not to adjourn for a longer period than was necessary,
but that an opportunity should be afforded of proceed-
ing next week with judicial business. That business
had been almost inevitably interrupted, but he thought
that, if possible, they ought to proceed with it nextweek.
It was perfectly cleur from the bulk of the statement
made by the Noble Earl (Derby) that almost all ques-
tions were to be for a certain time in abeyance, with one
exception—matters relating to social improvement. He
hoped the Noble Earl meant to include under that head
the great and important question of the amendment of
the law.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to the conversa-
tion that had taken place on the subject of the corn-
laws, he (Lord Brougham) wished to avoid entering
into that question. He entirely concurred in the opi-
nions of his Noble. Friend (Earl Grey), though he did
not participate for a moment in his alarm. His
(Lord Brougham's) apprehensions were at once
quieted when the Noble Earl (Derby) stated that
he expressed hie individual opinions, but that
whether the Government was prepared to found
measures upon those opinions, and to propound them to
Parliament, must depend upon the sense of the country
—the general disposition of the country. To that pro-
position he (Lard Brougham) entirely assented, though
how this opinion was to be taken, and at what time, he
was not aware.—(A laugh.) Ho understood his Noble
Friend opposite to say that a dissolution in the present
state of affairs was oat of the question, and he (Lord
Brougham) heartily rejoiced that that was his opinion.
The Noble Earl had intimated that measures not requir-
ing an immediate appeal to the country would be forth-
with proceeded with, and he hoped the great question of
the amendment of the law would stand, if not in the
front rank, at least near that position.
The Earl of DERBY observed, that what Lobos ctat.a
was that, excluding those groat party questioneas to which
it was notorious that the Government were at present in a
minority in the House of Commons, and which could there-
fore only be brought forward with the certainty of defeat,
he thought they might usefully confine themselves to
dealing with those great measures, which were generally
called for by the country, of legal reform and social
improvement.—[Lord BROUGIIAM--That escaped me.)
His Noble and Learned Friend the Lord Chancellor,tme
when he took his seat in the House, wouldlnseni
of
in applying his powerful mind to the consideration
reforms
the subject, and the promotion of those
recom-
mended by the Commission.---(
that their Lord-
Lrearo,hear, from Lord
Brougham,) He would now propose that
and by that day
Lord-
ships should adjourn to Monday .
it would be ascertained whether itn
wolutlwdobeeld.pobsoswibelveetro,
proceed with the judicial business
be understood that the House would sit
sfionresthseontrisyn,
tion of judicial business or of private u
thatmat ter of publc usinees3osows oaudldj
war nod
while the House of Corn obu
er
nnerdn,n ga
ant :hoer;
must necessarily do, for
eth. e_ et lbeecrtet o law oo
of
inoifstcoerus.rse, be
Lord BROUGHAM s id
the
part
of
the
House,
a general understanding,
that nothing but private andn judicial business should
beTtbraentreaLcoterdds
hips then adjourned to Monday.

0 USE OF COMMONS, Feb. 27.
The SrEd.lo6lt took tho Chair at a few mioutss to
Four o'clock.
NEW MEMBER.
Sing. BRIDGES took the oaths and his seat for East
dent.
APPEARANCE OF THE HOUSE.

At four o'clock both sides of the House were nearly
filled with Members. The Opposition benches were
most crowded. They were occupied by the friends and
supporters of the late Government, while the Ministerial
side was taken possession of by the friends and fol-
lowers of the now Administration. Mr. Heyter and
Lord Marcus Hill were the only Members of the de-
funct Ministry whom we observed on the leading Oppo-
sition bench.

Mr. Hume came in some twenty minutes after four
o'clock, and he was on the point of taking big usual scat,
but seeing Mr. Cobden and some of his other friends on
the other side, ho hurriedly retreated, and room was
mode for him of the correspocupg inch cg 09

position .e of tt atm:. r ialmerston took his
former 86. G on tinisterial below the gangway•

NEW WRITS.

Mr. F. MACKENZIE moved that Mr. Speaker do
issue his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make
out a new writ for the election of a knight of the shire
for the county of Buckingham, in the room of the Right
Hon, Benjamin Disraeli, who since his election had ac-
cepted the office of Chancellor and Under Treasurer of
her Majesty's Exchequer.—(Cheers.)
The motion was agreed to without comment.
On the motion of the same HON. MEMBER, new write
were also ordered for the election of a burgess for the
borough of Midhurst, in the room of the Right Hon.
Spencer Horatio Walpole, who since his election had ac-
cepted the office of one of her Majesty's principal Secre-
taries of State.

For the election of a burgess for the borough of
Droitwich, in the room of the Right Hon. Sir John
Somerset Pakingtnn, who since his election had ac-
cepted the office of one of her Majesty's principal Se-
cretaries of State.—(A laugh from the Whig Opposition;
cheers from the Ministerial benches )
For the election of a burgess for the borough of Stam-
ford, in the room of the Right lion. John Charles
lorries, who since his election had accepted the office
o f President of the Board of Control fur the Affairs of
India.
For the election of a knight of the shire for the
county of Oxford, in the room of the Right Hon. Joseph
Warner Henley, who since his election had accepted
the office of President of the Board of Trade and Plan-
tations.
For the election of a knight of the shire for the northern
division of the county of Essex, in the room of Mr. Wit-
ham Berestord, who since his election bad accepted the
office of her Majesty's Secretory at War.
For the election of a burgess for the borough of
Abingdon, in the room of Sir Frederick Thesiger, who
since his election bad accepted the office of her Majesty's
Attorney-General.
For the election of a burgess for the borough of Col-
chester, in the room of the Right Hon. Lord Jobn Man-
ners, who since his election had accepted the office of
First Commissioner of Works and Public Buildings.
For the election of a burgess for the borough of For-
tarlington, in the room of Colonel Francis Plunkett
Dunne—(Laughter from the Opposition)—who since
his election had accepted the (Ace of Clerk of the
Ordnance.—(" Oh, oh," and laughter from the Oppo-
sition.)
For the election of a knight of the shire for the county
of Kildare, in the room of the Right Hon. Lord Nuas,
who since his election had accepted the office of her Ma-
jesty's Chief Secretary in Ireland.—(" Oh, oh," from
the Opposition; cheers from the Ministerial side of the
House.)
For the election of a Member for the University of
Dublin, in the room of Mr. Joseph Napier, who since
his election had accepted the office of her Majesty's At-
torney-General in Ireland.
For the election of a burgess for the borough of En-
niskillen, is the room of Mr. James Whiteside, who
since his election had accepted the office of her Ma-
jesty's Solicitor-General in Ireland.
For the election of a knight of the shire for the
county of Londonderry, in the room of Mr. Thomas
Batesen, who since his election had accepted the office
of Lord Commissioner of her Majesty's Treasury.
For the election of a burgess for the borough of Buck-
ingham, in the room of the Marquis of Chandos, who
since his election had accepted the office of Lord Co-
mmissioner of her Majesty's Treasury.
For the election of a burgess for the city of Chiches-
ter, in the room of Lord Henry Charles George Gordon
Lennox, who since his election had accepted the office of
Lord Commissioner of her Majesty's Treasury.
For the election of a knight of the shire for the sou-
thern division of the county of Lincoln, in the room of
Sir John Trollop, who since his election had accepted
the office of Chief Commissioner of the Poor-law Board.
For the election of a knight of the shire for the nor-
thern division of the county of Lincoln, in the room of
the Right Hon. Robert Adam Christopher, who since his
election had accepted the office of Steward of the Chil-
tern Hundreds.—(Laughter.)
For the election of a knight of the shire for the county
of Dorset, in the room of the Right Hon. George Bankes,
who since his election had accepted the office of Judge
Advocate-General.
For the election of a knight of the shire for the east
riding of York, in the room of the Hon. Arthur Dun-
coma, who since his election bad accepted the office of
Lord of the Admiralty.
For tho election of a knight of the shire for the
county of Tyrone, in the room of Lord Claud Hamilton,
who since his election had accepted the office of Trea-
surer of her Majesty's Household.
For the election of a burgess for the borough of Wen-
lock, in the room of the lion. George Coil Forester,
who since his election had accepted the office of Comp-
troller of her Majesty's Household.
Mr. HAYTER moved for a new writ for the county
of Cork,,in the room of Dr.Msurice Power, who had ac-
cepted the office of Governor of St. Lucia.—(Laughter.)

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Lencashire and Yorkshire and York and North Midland
Railways.
Leeds Waterworks (No. 2).
Londonderry Bridge.
Manchester, Buxton, Matlock, and Midlands Junction
Railway.
Newmarket Railway.
North British Flax Company (Claussen's Patent).
Eastern Counties Railway (Branch to the river Nente&c.)
Eastern Ceuntiee Railway (Junction with the East and
West India Docks, &c.)
Eastern Counties Railway (Power to use the East Ang-
lian Railways, &e.)
Great Western, Shrewsbury and Birmingham, and
Shrewsbury and Chester Railway Companies Amal-
gamation.
Stockton and Hartlepool and Clarence Railway, and
Hartlepool West Harbour and Dock Companies.
Wirksworth Mining Customs and Mineral Courts.
York and North Midland Railway.
LEICESTER-SQUARE IMPROVEMENT BILL.
Mr. WAKLEY moved that the second reading of this
Bill be postp ned.
Mr. W. PATTEN opposed the motion, unlnes some
sufficient grounds were stated for the postponement.
Mr. WAKLEY said the object of the postponement
was to allow the promoter and the opponents of the Bill
to come to an amicable arrangement of the differences
between them.
After tome discussion, in which Mr. Anstey, Sir B.
Hall, and Mr. C. Lu,biugton took part,
Mr. WYLD said that he was the promoter of the Bill,
topiary
dthat its object was not the advancement of any Pe'
interest of his, but simply of scientific purposes
for the instruction of his fellow subjects.
The second reading of the Bill was ultimately fixed
for Monday. March 15.
The Lincolnshire Estuary Bill was postponed until
Monday, March 15, on the motion of Colonel Sibthorp.
LONDON NECROPOLIS BILL.
On the motion that the Londou Necropolis Bill be read
a second time,
Mr. H. DRUMMOND said that the company
hod
made a misstatement as regarded the law ; they ua.
onlyridi-
obteined the freehold, not the copyhold.
coiled the idea of the soil being peculiarly adapted for
funeral purposes, and for the growth of vegetatlen'ehs.s
detailed in the prospectus of the company.
undulatin surface of the country, it was ridiculeasse
The fraud:w g as, they had bought 2,6ooaeres, whereastbed
only designed to appropaiate 400 acres to the gravel:-
yard, intending to build on the remaining 2,000,
not
dr
Sirct
nhooymj
hn net
DUKEeefaraer
vs
ott the spot,
nas
favourable
liooet
ot.
swi
though they stated that the footsteps of commerce ehoule
considerationdhe
whatever,
teed
v e rth, e scheme
of
f the
humanity. He was satisfied that no portatreo7filtileiliefei
ground would be devoted to building speculation.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND said it was distinctly stated
in the 11th clause of the Bill that building should take
place on the ground.
Mr. J. BELL supported the second reading of the
Bill.
Lord EBRINGTON objected toexmcinagsbaurinialatitteirtboi4
country a commercial speculation. He was,bowele!!
dissatisfied with several clauses in the Bill. To read 1,
a second time would be to commit the new Government
to a reversal of the principle deliberately adapted
Parliament.
Mr. MO WATT was of opinion that the
not bo disposed of in an off-hand manner. The laW
Government had confessed the failure of their awn
measure, and it was necessary, therefore, to adopt 011-.
other. Burial of the dead had been from all tits, efr
private speculation—even the Church had ePeell's'e
in the matter. He (Mr. Mowatt) would vote for the
Bill on principle, without committing himself CO the
details.
mowholeootnobject
in bodyth the whole
owohaf
moderateolteh
Mr. MANGLES opposed the Bill on behalf of tin
ratniotsnofofWtohkeinogointnon bong
They dr"
taken; but the Bill proposed to take every acre of COm-
of such portions as were gnivoitngwpaontweedrafoorf stahleeßettienilindceloetuetlfillde.
company. As they only wanted 400 acres, they we t,
therefore, have 2,200 acres for sale. The Bill Iles I'
great job, and he accordingly moved it be read a second
time that day six menthe.
Colonel CHATTERTON, who moved the
guided
reading, defended the Bill. The company was gu;i:lhee
by the most liberal sentiments. Several of the parish
adjacent were favourable to the Bill; the metropolitan
Members were not opposed to it; and he should there'
fore press it on the House. such
Mr. BETHELL should be sorry if a Bill te.
public importance was baffled by the efforts of indier_
duals who failed to make a party against it without, .
the ground of the public good. The company cou.h
enter into no contract with any other person than
lord of the manor, subject to the rights of tho
ep a irni
h bpiot
holders. The Bill only contained the ordinary elarlse:
to sell that were always in every railway Bill and °t°" _
Bill of that nature. He considered the objections to the
Bill unfounded on principle.
Sir DE LACY EVANS hoped the Housewwold c not
prevent the Bill from going into Committee, seeingfrobm
necessity there existed for relieving the metropelii
the interment of the dead within its preciects.i Bill
Lord R. GROSVENOR would be sorry f any
thrown
that promised a remedy for the existing evil
out; but it was so important to know the sen;ign,eeent the
the Government on the subject, that he hope'. .-•••
Hon. Gentleman who had charge of the measure sloeint"..
not, under existing circumstances, object to
lisrligienit
ponement for a lordliest. Ile moved the adjou
of the debate. was thrtos
of
Mr. HUME hoped the House
postponement, as the question involved a gr
ciple.
debate. be ad-
Sir W. JOLLIFFE thought the debate should
Mr. SCOTT would support the adjournment of the
would not agersete
ptroints.
journ
Mr. ed
MO WAT under th T
e c could notconsent to an adjourn
rcumstances.
as the principle was admitted by Parliament on a
former
occasion.
c
u
railway companies to take 2,000 acres more than t t
cemhz,lierrt..eEirly.weDozniptU;lOND said it was not custotnaryhfeeyr
wanted. The company was a building company' "
second reading of
The House then divided, when there appeared--
92
For the amendment
theee la
Breit his intention of voting for the
. 104
Against
Majority against the amendment-
-12
The Bill was read a second time.
WORCESTER AND HEREFORD RAIL
We
On the motion that this Bill be read a second time,
Mr. SPOONER said he should be able to make _Ss,;
such a case as would convince the House that the Dv::
ought to be rejected. He admitted that a railwaie Bill
wanted between Worcester and Hereford, told,if„ti'lld have
had been brought in in a proper manner he 8":, a Bill
supported it. It had been intimated that this gauge
which had reference to the broad and narrow
matter: he
question, but he knew nothing about that ked at
looked at the Bill uu its broad principle. Ile looked
the Bill as one that intended to shut up P°r" übliet
water communication in the district which the p .
had now the advantage of; and, therefore, on principleo
that such a proceeding was prejudicial to. the publi
bgurteaitf ad-
vantage from the
interest, be must oppose the Bill.
Bill was to turn the Severn
watery The Honourable
canal into the proposed
railwa-that timber and coal
Member then proceeded to show The object of ilia
inhabitants o !lot r itchte;
of the
to be taken in a roundabout way
coal and timber we.
erdeal of inconvenience and public
came at present by the river
good He hoped the House
robyisreahiilewfay
the ground that a canal
fSetvbeerndi
would throw out the Bill on
ought not to be permitted to sell, for
or water company
to a rail
its own private interests,
tion of the canal, and thusto deprive the public of
direct communication between place and place. He ad-
waould en 6,11 •
witted the railway was an important railway, and that it
was an evil not to have the diatrict which it was intended
to serve supplied with railway communication ; and if
the evil he had pointed out could be remedied by a sug-
gestion his opposition would at once be at an end. lie
the appeal of the lion. Member. The lion. M
begged to move that the Bill be read that day six months.
Mr. C. LEWIS hoped the House would not listen to
railway
dwthe Bill was an important Bill, and that the
were strong as
to
" through an important district. Those
With re reasons why the Bill should be adopted.
'Peet to the lrelied princip e upon by the Hop.
Member, that
he begged the Bill would interfere with the cane',
to say that only the unprofitable For-
non of the canal would be affected by the Bill ;
ember had
and that the trustees and proprietors of the canal woo
anxious that the sale should take place. It would be
an unusual course if the House threw out shis
which was so strongly advocated and supported on its
general merits.
General LYGON hoped the House would allow the
second reading.
Mr. H. HOPE objected to the Bill—for if the
cane
communication with Gloucester was interrupt( d much
evil would ensue to the Gloucester timber trade.
Sir R. PRICE said the railway was to serve leer"
Cant purposes—to join Worcester to Hereford; andf
there were no other reasons he must give his support COt
the Bill.
After some further discussion the House divided, when
there appeared— • -
For the second reading ... ..." 156
Against it 56
Majority for the second reading —lOO
MANCHESTER AND SALFORD EDUCATION
BILL.
On the suggestion of Mr. M. GIBSON, the conside-
ration of this Bill was fixed for Wednesday, the 17th of
March.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE—ENDOW-
MENT OF MAYNOOTH.
Mr. F. MACKENZIE moved that the House at its
rising do adjourn till Friday, the 12th of March.
Mr. HUME believed that the adjournment was simply
to allow time for the re-election of Members who had
accepted office. Ho thought Monday week might have
been fixed for tbo House meeting. At any rate, before
agreeing to adjourn, Members ought to be allowed to
present the petitions in their possession.
Mr. SPOONER did not rise to oppose the motion for
adjournment, but wished to make a few observations
with reference to a matter which was somewhat per
sonal. It might be in the recollection of the IleE?
that he had given notice cf a motion on the auhjict
of
Maynooth, and that he lied intimated his intention
ti-
Ft
postponing it till an early day after Easter. That in
mation had been received with no very equivocal re-
marks by some lion. Gentlemen on the other side,
who
seemed to suppose that he had altered his plans,,,,af."
was about to give up the motion altogether.—(lrlr_
bear.) He wished, therefore to put those Hatiuu
Atinahcrs cut of misery on that point. Ile bed
altered his determination to bring thudestion futw:
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