The Sun.
London, England, 1864-02-12 00:00:00

THE COMMISSION OF SEWERS.

The next business before the Court was the app iintment
of the Commissioners of Sewers.

It will be recollected that at the last Court a long discus •
sion took place on the same subject, an amendment being
proposed by Mr. Medwin that every member of the Court of
Common Council except those who were ineligible, should
be entitled to act upon the Commission of Sewers. The re-
sult, or rather no result, arrived at on that occasion, was
that an equal number voted for and against the proposition,
so that nothing was done, and Mr. Itudkin had now upon
the paper of businsss an amendment to the motion, that the
old commission should be reappointed, of precisely the
same effect as that of Mr. Med win.

Deputy De JERSEY suggested that, after what had taken
place at the last Court, when, upon the first division that
took place there was a majority of three against the amend-
ment of Mr. Medwin, no further proceedings should take
place in the matter at present, especially as there was such
a heavy paper of business to be disposed of,
Mr. RIMKTN, however, said he considered the questi@n
of very great importance to the ratepayers of London, and
that after the very small majority in favour of the present
mode of appointing the Commissioners of Sewers at the last
Court, he should consider himself justified in pressing his
amendment.

This led to a long discussion, in which most of the prin.
cipal mernbers of the Court took part.

Mr H. L. TAYLOR, in opposing the amendment, urged the
Court strongly to pause before they adopted the course of
allowing 240 gentlemen to be elected as Commissioners of
Sewers, and said that, in his opinion, if they did so, the
business cou d never be got through, and that the Commis-
sion would become an altogether impracticable body.
(Hear, hear.) He also said that at present the Commis-
sioners of Sewers, as a portion of the Corporation, were en-
abled to obtain very considerable grants from the Metropo-
litan Board of Works in aid of public improvements, but that
if the whole Court of Common Council were empowered to
form a portion of that body, it would in point of fact be the
Corporation of London itself that would be asking for these
grants, and he should be glad to know what gentlemen
would like to go up to the Metropolitan Board of Works
and ask for a grant of money upon that footing ? (Hear.)
They were at present very often twitted with observations
about the great Corporation of London coming to the iNletro-
politan Board to ask for assistance to carry out improve-
ments—(hear, hear)—and he (Mr, Taylor) should certainly
not be inclined to make such an application, if the present
amendment were agreed to—and in his opinion it would be
a suicidal act on the part of the Corporation to take such a
step. (Hear, hear.)
Deputy FRY supported the amendment, and said that his
opinion had not in any way been affected by the arguments
that had been adduced by Mr. Taylor. Ho also said that
he had ascertained, upon examination of the list of the divi-
sion on the former occasion, that out of 72 members who
voted in support of the present system, 38 were Commis-
sioners of Sewers. (Hear, hear.) He therefore considered
that Mr. Rudkin was perfectly justified in taking the opinion
of the Court again upon the subject. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. NORRIS, M.P., opposed the amendment, and ex-

pressed his opinion that the important business of the Com-
mission would never be got through if it were composed of
so large a number of members as were sought to be intro-
duced into it.

Alderman Lust, in supporting the amenlment, said

appeared to him that the question was whether it was ad-
visable to have two opposition bodies in the Corporation.
(Hear, hear.) The Commissioners of Sewers claimed the
right to appoint their own officers, and, in fact, professed to
be quite independent of this Court—and he thought that

this ought not to be, and that, if such a system were con-
tinued, the Corporation would be giving up one of the most

important principles of self .government.
Mr. LAWLEY supported the amendment, and argued that
the alteration proposed would bo ono that was likely to
operate most beneficially for the ratepayers of the city of
London.

Alderman PHILLIPS opposed the amendment, and ex-
pressed his opinion that it could not be agreed to without
casting a vote of censure upon the Commissioners of Sewers,
who, it was admitted by every one, had performed their
duties in the most able and satisfactory manner. (Hear.) He
contrasted the condition of the city of London with that of
the Continental cities, and said it appeared to him that the
Commissioners of Sewers did everything that was possible
to improve the sanatory state of the City, and to accommo-
date and protect the myriads of people who flocked into the
City every day. (Hear.)
After some further discussion the Court divided, when
there appeared—
For the amendment 63
Against it
Majority against the amendment —B
The old commissioners were then reappointed, one or two
gentlemen's names being added to it by special motion, trod
the Court shortly afterwards broke up.

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