The Sun.
London, England, 1864-03-09 00:00:00

EDUCATION.

Mr. ADDERL EY moved the following resolution :
" That grants made from the Treasury to schools for the
working classes should not, in every case, be reduced by
the whole amount of all endowments." After observing
that endowments had always been looked upon as local con •
tributions, he proceeded to examine the reasons assigned by
the Treasury for adopting the principle of excluding endow-
ments, under the minute of 1863, insisting upon the in-
justice of the principle. He next showed that the theory
of the Treasury broke down in practice, adducing examples;
and then indicated the results and consequences of the
minute as far as it could be carried out, contending that it
was in direct contravention of the original minute. In con-
clusion he expressed his own opinion as to what was the
right course to be adopted in dealing with private endow-
ments, and suggested that before new minutes of Council
on education ware laid before the house their purpose should
be explained, after due notice given.
The motion was seconded by Mr. F. POWELL, who
argued at considerable length in condemnation of the course
of action taken by the Government, which, he contended,
was not only in contravention of the rules of general policy,
but Dpposed to the recommendations of the Charity Com-
missioners.

Lord HENLEY supported the motion, urging the ill
effects of the minute upon the Church schools, the managers,
masters, and scholars, in the rural districts, where educa-
tion is almost monopolized by the Church of England. 11
the object of the minute was economy, it was, he said, bad
economy; it would have the certain effect of discouraging
endowments.

Mr. MITFORD, as a manager of a school with a small
endowment, protested against the minute as tending to alter
and unsettle the arrangements under the Revised Code, to
discourage rural schools throughout the country, and to
confiscate present and check future endowments. lle
suggested an alteration in the wording of the resolution.
Mr. BAINES sail the object of the Government was to
prevent a waste of public money, and to bring the grants to
schools back to the original principle, which was not to
supersede but to stimulate voluntary efforts. He read a list
of cases of large endowments and Government grants, where
the subscriptions were small, and in some instances, nil.
Lord R. CECIL observed that the house ought to look at
the general principle up )n which these grants were origi-
nally made. The objects were two ; Parliament desired to
a%ist education in districts where the population was poor,
and to draw out voluntary contributions. He proceeded
to argue that the minute in question was directly opposed
to both the objects which Parliament had in view. He had,
he said, besides a special objection—that the Education -office
kept the subject in a state of perpetual revolution. These
changes, if made at all, ought to be made openly, and not
introduced secretly and in silence.

Colonel SYKES And Mr. C. BRUCE supported the motion
which was opposed by Mr. lIADFIELD.

Mr. LO WE, after some run trk-s in self-justification,
reminded the house of the original object of these grants—
namely, to aid voluntary local exertions. The question
raised by Mr. Adderley, he observed, was whether endow-
ments should not be regarded as voluntary local contribu-
tions. The rule complained of was not adopted by the
Committee of Council without great consideration or with-
out reason. They came to the conclusion that endowments
were not to be considered as local voluntary contributions.
They were not local in their nature ; they might be in Stock
or in the Funde. The Government was bound to look to
the interests of the taxpayers. He must say, for himself,
that he did not desire to see money devoted by will or deed
to the foundation of schools for the working poor. Having
replied to various objections, he concluded by saying that
in deference to the strong feeling which appeared to pervade
the house he was willing to accept the motion, and ho sug-
gested modes in which it might be carried into effect.

Mr. G. HARDY made some observations upon the gene-
ral question, and the motion was then agreed to.
Mr. G. CLIVE moved for the appointment of a select
committee to inquire into the expediency and practicability
of abolishing turnpike trusts.
After a few words from Mr. SCOURFIELD and Mr. W.
MARTIN, the motion was agreed to.

Mr. KINGLAKE moved for copies of papers dated in
the years 1850, 1851, 1852, or 1853, relating to the Protocol
of Warsaw, or to the Treaty of London of the Bth of May,
1852; and asked whether an answer, dated the 24th of May,
1852, was not addressed by M. de Bills to Baron do Brun-
now ; and, if ro, whether the same was communicated to
her Majesty's Government. He gave explanations of his
object in making the motion and the inquiry.
Mr. LAVA RD said the papers moved for were volumi•
nous ; but he would produce those NO:lick were essential,
as well as a copy of the letter referred to.

On the motion of Sir S. NORTUCOTE, a select committee
was appointed to inquire into the constitution and work-
ing, and into the success, of the Schools of Art wholly or
partially supported by Government grants, or otherwise
assisted by the Government, and into the system upon
which the sums granted by Parliament for the promotion
of national education in art are distributed and adminis-
tered.

On the order for going into committee upon the Court of
Justiciary (Scotland) Bill,

Mr. W. LESLIE opposed the motion, which, after a
short discussion, was carried, upon a division, by 81 to
49, and the house went into committee, when the Chairman
was ordered to report progress.
The Inclosure Bill and the Bills of Exchange, &c.( (Ire-
land) Bill were read a third time and passed.
The house adjonrned at a quarter before 12 o'clock,

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