The Sun.
London, England, 1852-05-21 00:00:00

THE SUN,

play. 'll.O- was the reason of fixing upon the 16th of
June.
Mr. GLADSTONE w-s glal the Hon. Gentleman
hail responded to the eppEal. No one was more inte-
rested in the rejection of the motion then the Hon.
limber for whom the Hon. Gentleman appeared,—
(Hear.) .The Hon.- Gentleman had declared that he
wished the. discussion to trNe place in a full House. Ho
trusted,
the Hoe would under
.o eirctun-
-6 rgreref°tom m n
the motion for the 16th of June.—
igt:eds, the re
(Hear, hear.) It would not be creditable to the House
to agree to meet. on that doubtful doy. It would nor, be
consistent. with the dignity of the House or the feelings
of the people, in a matter of great public in-
terest to the foelinn of the people, test its disouision
should be postponed until nearly the close of Parlia-
ment. Either the Hon, Member wished the discussion
to go on, or he did not. lle (Mr. Gladstone) had dis-
'cussed the motion as a bona fide 'motion, fl d. if the -mo-
tion was really bona fide, the Housenught to come to a
solution of the question involved in it. Were the House
and the country to be told they could not find a day on
which to discuss and conclude this question? Why not
name a morning sitting?—(Hear, hear.)
..
11r. NEWDEGATE—WiIt yOu matte a Motion to
that effect?

Mr. GLADSTONE—It was not for him to point oat
the course which the Hon. Gentleman ought to take.
If he wished the inquiry to proceed, let . him ask rho
House to meet on Saturday or Tuesday, or to hold a
morning sitting; and until the House had refused the
demand, do not let the Hon. Gentleman talk of the
difficulty of finding a day.—(Bear, hear.) It was not
to the credit of the Roue to permit the question to be
.vaguely dealt with.
Colonel GILPIN said the public felt strongly on this
question, and were anxious for the House's decision, not-
withstanding the cleverness of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man (Mr. Gladstone's) arguments, which argumehts
were; like all his arguments, accompanied with disguise.
—(llear, hear.) It was not the Hon Gentleman'., fault
that he could not get a day named earlier than the 16th
of June.
Mr. KEOGH thought the Right Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Gladstone's) argument and recommendation had
been misapprehended. Every Member in the Hotise was
convinced of the perfect inutility of the 16th of June
being fixed for the further discussion of this question.
Ho agreed with what had been said on this side of the
House, that it was important to come to some decision on
the question. Whose was the fault that they were dis-
CtlS3ilo,g in a moribund Parliament what day the debate
should be reanmed? Surely the Hon. Gentleman (hlr-
NeWdegate) and they who acted with him Would
.see it
was not practicable to take the last. day of the session for
a debate upon this question. 'Why did the Honourable
Gentleman not adopt the practical proposition of the
Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Gladstone), of .a morning
siting?—(Hear.) If the Hon. Gentleman really wanted
a Committee, as he said, he wall knew a Committee
could not be nominated before the dissolution of
Parliament. Even if the Committee were appointed, it
could not enter upon the question with any hope of coming
to a determination upon it. Let the Hon. Gentleman
throw off the math, and after all the shuffling; on the
other side of the House, let him do what he said he was
anxious to do, and no opposition would be offered by him
or Hon. Members on hiS side of the House.
Mr. WALPOLE agreed with the Right Hon. Gentle-
man (Mr. Gladstone), if the debate was postponed to the
16th June it would make the inquiry futile.—(Hear.)
But he also thought it would, for otivioua reasons, be
inexpedient to name next Wednesday. What, then,
were they to do? They were nearly approaching the end
of the session, and all were agreed that no practical con-
clusion could be come to if the discussion was postponed
until a tew days before Parliament ended. It seemed to
him that there was only one of two courses to adopt—
either to discharge the order altogether—(llsar)—or to
move the adjournment of the debate until next Tours-
day, in order te give the Hon. Gentleman oh opportu-
niv for considering what day could he fixed.—(enies of
" Fix the day.") Well, then, he had no objection to fix
the day immediately. Ho would be the last Man to
wish the discussion to he delayed. He must take the
opportunity of saying, es allusion had been made to his
speech the other night, that it had been much rnisunder-
soao.l, and that the 'Hon. Gentleman opposite had not
put the correct construction on it. The Right Hon.
Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer had cor-
rectly described the construction to be put upon his
speech.
Sir B. HALL hoped the motion for Wednesday next
would be withdrawn, for after the statement of the Right
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Walpole) it was clear the day
for discussion rested entirely with the Hon. Gentleman
opposite (Mr. Newdegate) ; and if the lion. Gentleman
did not take the offer now made, this would bo said by
the country—Thera are two questions you desire to go
to the hustings upon—the one is Protection—(oh)
which you have entirely thrown over—(Oh, oh)—and
the ether is the Ilaynooth question, which you wish to
postpone indefinitely.—(Hear, hear.) That intention,
however, it would be his duty to defeat. At this mo-
ment the town of Liverpool was placarded, to the effect
that the Hon. Candidate would vote against the grant.
It was necessary, therefore, to come to a speedy decision
on the question.
Sir J. TYRELL would say nothing to aggravate
the important question before the House, but he
would not shrink from avowing that he had just
advised his Honourable Friend (Mr. Nowdegate), in
consequence of what had fallen from Government, to
avail himself of the suggestion thrown out, and to name
Tuesday next for resuming the discussion at eleven
o'clock. That was his proposition. Knowing that
the question had excited much attention in and out of
the House, it would be unbecoming on the part of the
Legislature not to come to a speedy decision upon it.
Had it not been for the Papal aggression, Hon. Gentle-
men opposite would never have heard of this motion.
Mr. GOOLD objected to the form of Mr. Spooner's
motion, as calculated to excite had feeling in Ireland.
Mr. FORBES would best meet the feelings of the
Helene by, moving that the debate be adjourned—(No,
no!)—to Tuesday, at eleven o'clock.
Mr. ANSTEY wished to ask the Hon. Member for
North Warwickshire, whether it was intended to fix an
early day, end if so, to go on de die in diem? In that
case he would withdraw his motion, which was only
brought forward to insure an early day.
Mr. NEWDEGATE replied, if the House assented to
the Hon. Gentleman's (Mr. Forbes) motion; it would
meet his views. _ _ _

The motion was. put and carried for resuming the de-
bate on Tuesday next, at twelve o'clock.
IN FRAMISRAL INTERMENTS BILL.

Lord J. MANNERS moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to amend the laws concerning the burial of the dead
in the metropolis: The Noble Lord briefly stated the
objects of the Bill, and added, at a future stage he would
enter more fully into the details.
Mc. WAKLEY complained that nothing had been
done by the Board of Health with reference to carrying
out those sanitary measures for the very purpose of
which that board had been instituted.
Mr. STANFORD hoped at a future stage of the Bill
the Noble Lord would give a clear and a lull statement
of the cause of failure of the late Governinent Bill.
Viscount EBRINGTON said her Majesty's late Go-
vernment took every means in their power to prevent the
cause of failure of the late Sanitary Act. Great efforts
had been made, to suppress the truth, and notiaing was
more unsatisfactory than the conduct of her Majesty's
late Goiernment with re3pe,ct to that Act.
Lord SEYMOUR said, when the circumstances came
under discussion ho should be prepared to defend the
conduct of Government. The fact was, the Board of
Heath had misled the late Government, especially with
reference to their power to raise money. lie hoped the
House would allow the Bill to be brought in, as by that
means a discussion would bo raised which would pro-
duce all the information relative to the late Act which
could be desired.
Tile Bill was brought in and read a first time. •
In reply to a question,
Sir J. PAKINGTON said he fully hoped to be able
to bring en the New Z-aland Bill this day (Friday).
Sir J. PAKINCTTON brought in the Colonial Bishop-
rics Bill, which was read a first time.
The Hulse adjourned at a Quarter to Two o'clock.