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thaying baent abolished in this c ;untry. It wss unjust
at the Dis..misters of Englann should be taxsd to sop.
Wet the Ministers of the Presbyterians in Ireland, who
:(1) a for richer b
!tail HEY WORTH also opposed the vote, whioh he
itsv't ebi,'e•ion:ahle on policy and principle.
of "r. v• SCULLY said, that until the whole, question
the endoWinent of thu three Churches had unciersone
tei?siideration he was not prepared to withdraw this par-
tner grant.
Mr. 8. CARTER opposed the grant.
arrlitr• XERSIIAW trusted that the time would shortly
par ve when this scramble for public money for religious
graPoses would terminate. Ho could see no utility in
loPiug this sum of money to the Presbyterians of Ire-
priv The only effect of the endowment was to oneck
514, contributions for the support of the Presbyterian
ltistry_
ti4tteeter a few words from Captain JONES, the. Com-
divided, when there appeared—
Per the vote 57
Against it ... ••• ••• 34
Majorit- • _O3
uro,
~rote of 6,5521, for the Concordatum fund,,
of 4:/au) for charitable purpesns, and for the minis., r.
41101.7. Matthew's Chapsl, Itingsend, his salary, call
op,:roo to clerk and cexton, was sgresd to otter. eh!
tn."'ttion from. Mr. ANSTEY, woieli was wit
4e°ll the vote of 10.745/. to defray the charges of the
tour'
Board of Health,
I.IIJIIE complained that the power enabling one-_
t a`' of the inhabitants of towns to petition toe board
ditice," down a surveyor to inquire into the sanitary con-
die of towns taus at present frequently abused. He
eh not think the initiatory step of rcussting inspection
leastl be taken until it had reesivee. the sanctioa, at.
pare two Public meetings. He (3r.. Hume) was la.nt pre
lif, however farther to oppose toe grant.
oi„ t• LLLICE called upon tho Government to look
teat into the working of the board, or it would do a
litat deal of mischief in the country.
Ilir• G. A. HAMILTON said the present Act of Par-
collent would come under revision in two years, and
enmi therefore be readily amended. He would not
s " into any details; but he would say that, as a
tleteleral rule, he could not admit the mismanagement of
is.board.
riviaeount EBRINGTON said some of the imputations
tettrivittat the board were owing rather to the deliberate in-
al:qenee of Parliament than to the board itself. The
ttiefir.age amount of these preliminary expenses was very
say about 1201, compared with those Of a private
tho es.
was usually not less than 2,0001. for large
th7es. and which in some cases amounted to tens of
is,v_usauds, while the results obtained were of the most
-titirtant character.
hrlnrJß.T2illE complained only of giving the power of
phltog down a surveyor to one or two of the rate-
-144. It led to jobbing and abuse in a variety of cases.
Of "aa no confidence in the management of the Board
thatealth as regarded discretion, after the disclosures
had t k i_
.11 en place.
'l5. HALL staid the only proof of the Metropolitan
`rucat Act having passed into a law since 1550 was
tio-44.PiPointinent of Dr. Southwood Smith as an soidi-
ttp;" com Missioner. The Act was inoperative, and the
-48° Of the Commission, 2,4001. a year, ought to be
pitied with.
11"°,, vote was then agreed to.
"361. for thd Encumbered Estates Commission
,Urt.
alr
'%
*ould.--mNCET pr
etested against the vote, but he
official nut divide on it as it involved the salaries of the
'th „Psracns connected with the court.
titEtte:, 1/4'HANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
had ,meollt of the Hon. Gentleman. that the Government
this suddenly resolved to continue the Act under which
linente.°llrt was constituted, surprised him. That
tliasmi.,4 Was announced three months ago, and it was
tvtil",,a,kle under the circumstances.
tiatier-Lu XE asked how long these courts would con-
kr."9,suPersede the courts of law?
Pose s' APIER said the court was created for the pur-
it tt°' facilitating the sale of encumbered estates, and
With :kat Present impossible for the law courts to deal
4tat;me.aubject. There were twenty millions'- worth of
4ttdir! " present undisposed of. In moving the second
ktate of the Continuance Bill, he (Hr. Napier) should
14,1",1e course intended to be adopted.
4110111(1 4:UME wished to know why the courts of law
prep be freed from the present processes which
satatj'e? d their operation in the case of encumbered
s
r, kr
`1.4er.1,-"v-iNCH maintained that the decision of the
1:48 ,Issut, as regarded the continuance of the Bill,
:We s,
-,„'en, and astonished the greater part of their
killtisWPorters from Ireland. One of the ablest pamphlets
:IC Plc measure, in fact, was, he understood, written
%gut ineisaber Of the Government.
Pole was then agreed to. So also were
40/.
soi,°/. for lighthouses abroad; and
4
for the census.
kr. ; f" building chapels for the embassies abroad.
14-4NSTEY. objected to tho vote.
- hlEthought the vote was
an extraordinary

h lr. a
THOMPSON said there were in all expended
Nor-~o erection of a residence for the British Amb3s.
Constantinople, from 1843 to 1850, 83,7651.
Marass• therefore not surprised that 3,0001. and up
4sii:°,hould be expended on a chapel for this costly
kr cie• A
~.°testi,-* A. HAMILTON had nothing to say to the
Viderutit had been passed. As respected the vote
j'ee °llsideration, the chapel at Constantinople had
6Got
th (): this vote was for the erection of that chapel
'oti:o-e.e°32lmodation of the English residents in Con-
TheII,I,Irere,II,.NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
;"°81(1°- "` English residents at rem was much more
;00 Leraab!ei than was supposed—certainly more than
-ittt'el,"), the chael was built for their accommodation
`t% brn."44rl for the embassy. He had no objection to
for krte the vote.
11 aid this was a case of economical re-
-se 6-11 which he would take the sense of the House.
olt4eight Hon
th e‘a „ . Gentleman said there wore 300 raer-
eptiselvfa7ral why did they not build a chapel for
t1,441° ‘j4IINCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER in-
-1-4 thepeati„ Hon. and Learned Gentleman that Pera was
Constantinoplehohaahoin which the British =has-
krte°,,r,l;eoltf; ght he only deferred to the clo-
th "' th Committee tthe postponement of
'Qt. e proposing
Otr ft „"'
1.e.e.,11' le'w Words from Mr. Aglionby, Mr. Hume, and
vvilloeghby,
133'Dor;t1ITILLIAMS said no advantage could be gained
a"Pc,-°„nierethe vote. It was a question of principle.
,f'at4D,'"ANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER would
7,ith—tno the consideration of the vote, end commence
4. when next going into supply. Ile Ilo7i moved
kphairolan report progress.
12toi; ANSTEY objected to the motion for reporting
goilel. He -wished to, ~eJgo to a division on the vote
,or he believed the opponents of the vote had a
horci)tty—a position he doubted whether they would
ht.wheo it was again brofight on.
iiiil);* G. THOUPSON thought, instead of postponing
goti°hsideration of the vote, it would give more satis-
T1(1)4 if the 'vote itself were postponed.
Vido de question was then put, and the Committee di-
When there appeared—
er reporting progress •••
Affitinst
Nirsjority for reporting progress —BO
(eIar:ed.RA.IRMAN reported progress, and the House

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Thi, br NEW ZEALAND BILL.
04- goose went into Committee on this Bill.
11 clause 74 being proposed,
tat rd GLAI)STONE wished to know if Government
Fa:)d to wake certain amendments to the clauses,l
riem2w that. would affect the amendment his on
havell" had to propose. He wished to know who ishould
%.Precedence?
Itetitaa,' PARINGTON said the moat 'convenient plan
the „," be for the 74th clause to be amended, and when_
Ptirtlureation be put, that, the clause so amended stand
ltie °` the Bill the Hon. Gentleman could make i ,ekent ,
After '
gip some further discussion,
MI th W. MOLES WORTH proposed to move to omit
tea ...,e
,‘, word` after the word " and," p. 20, line 36. The
it b,"11 why he suggested this amendment was, because
tt4443 proposed to transfer the management of the waste
25
b,"," from the Colonial-office to the General As-
-0y of New Zaaland. He desired that the New
444
Company should not have any augmen-
;till hticl
uttlf,i'' of their strict
New Zeal
8 of
N Zealand. Bl'the Act of 1847 the New
titled to the suplus of the
114:titita4154t1dreChoanr after the were
ee
°lexpenses of emigration were
alteration that might be
legal' t° reastericdtetshireed:kienwa n_zy._
Zealand Companyohiteoctetdlietior
tills charge.. The New Z9alar. Company
to a legal claim,
4 030Ta,e, stating they had, in addition.
that hs`4l claim—and that the Colonial-office
if the-,°ral claim. The New Zealand s•J` p
any contended,
l-office recogoi.ed
l',ial gansfer to the General Asseinbl
na of the New
Assembly from the Colo.
,Tale.('—ficter, Was made, that the moral all
d; therefore
',41 c4ll- Co vvould not be recog
L'4 eo —siPditnY Wished Parliament,
and to
make its moral and legal claims together,,h
in makninigsethistransfer,
could be
tfftetelcita Moral claim a legal claim,
which
of the
jast 64., giving them one-fourth of the produceZed'
ik;tlieelus• Now, he contended that the NON
tle th„,-mPatlY had no moral cl,im strong oc?ut,h. to en-
their
b -onti
In to Acts of Pirliament for nnything hey
1.144 atria, ,
ton. ,egal claim.' Had come documents which ho
Asa b,,-,'," for h,en forthcoming, he
*shoed have been
ay ii".,er Position to prove that the New Zealand Con:1-
'l,ll lad:' 110 moral claim to the advantage they sought.
.15 '" the co obtained a loan of ioo,ooo/ to
tly 415P1i.d company
le to purposes of general utility, with
apperohibition, that no part of the money should be
15tell'efi t° the payment of their debenture debt. This
pailytbition was distasteful to the company, and the corn-
bled as°" afterwards obtained another Act, which
th
tlißeLe. them to a 1 half the borrowed sum to e
this"Qrgo of the debenture debt, Not withcont4e6ntoebdtained
104044 M other concessions, the company
inlB
of into-
-1.,4t to
AO, excusing them from the
payment money.
It et
a further advance of public their
elattr-ta 4180 provided, if the company
silo er to the surrendered
compan
Crown, and if the powers of the
Crown
kilo!? thereby revert to the Crown, that the
eothpany
with dbe bound to satie.fy any liability of the
~or reference to the settlement at Nelson. Notice
_rownbe-
t ear render of the charter *as iven, and the C
ri7, liable to the Nelson settlement for any claims they
gilt
have o it was
contended
tet' n the company. Now, he Exchequer
inetly the duty
the time,of the Chancellor of the._an
'c t . before he consented to support
i... of Parliament which was to render the Crown -
~,
..II
1.1 e to the settlement .
"0 have raleg due 15
.1r„1 Y. But the Chancellor of the Exchequer had.: Zealand obtained proper Now
n information as to the
vcdrapanfB liabilities
In 1846 A Pi*" of