The Sun.
London, England, 1852-05-15 00:00:00

SAVINGS BANKS.

Mr. REYNOLDS asked whether it wai the intention
of the Government this Session to introduca a Bill for
emending the law respecting savings banks in Great
Britain ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
there was no intention on the part of the Liovernment
to introduce any Bill this sesaion on the subject, but
the law respecting savings' banks', was under the consi-
deration of the Government, and they would take the
earliest opportunity of proposing a measure nest
session.

CHELSEA. WATERWORKS BILL.

In reply toMr.WAKLEY,

Lorcl.d. MANNERS said the subject of rating in
regard to the supply of water was under the con-
sideration oF the Government, and they would propose
the postponement of this Bill until they had come to a
decision on the subject.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE. HOUSE.
It was tht.ii agreed that the House at its rising should
adjourn until Monday neat.

MILL CIA BILL.
The House then went tat.) Committee upon this Bill,
Mr. BERNAL in the Chair.
Clause 9 having been proposed,
Mr. M. GIBSON, ater presenting petitions against
the Bill from Nottingham and Camberwell, proceeded to
say that he required some explanation as to clause 9,
after altering clause 8 in the manner they did on Friday
night last. It was nt cestary to alter clause 9 so as to
make it read with clause 8, otherwise it would be sur-
plusage. The alteration effected in clause Bon Friday
night last changed the old system and law of the old
militia. It would ba competent now for the Home Se-
cretary to raise the whole militia in one county, leaving
the other counties untouched; which was not the came
under the old militia-law, which required each county to
furnish its quota. Now, if the ba►lot were introduced,
it was fair it should t ,ke of ct over all the counties,
otherwiie a great injustice would be committed.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the Itight•Hon..
Gentlom,n was misteken. Althoukh thc 42d George
111 affixed the Totes, it wily uffixed -th-in for three
years, down to 1805; after which a disert tion was given
to the Qiisen in Conneil to tax the differt•nt quotas.
Mr. 11. GIBSON eon:II)I44RA that the expisity,tion was
not satisfactory. The pi( oiple! of effrxing quotas had
not been hid down by tho Hon. and Learned Attorney.
General. He thought a rini,-Ity had been introduced in
the Present measurecaleulated to do great injastioe.
WALL't)LE said-the alteration in ett.use 8 was
entirely adopted on the suggestion of the Right Hon
Bironot the Member for Halifax (Sir C. Wood). By
Clause 8 the Queen in Couriel had the power of iitaxicg
the quotas of each county, so a 3 to apportion the r; bole
number.

In answer to Mr. G. J. HE ATHCOTE,
Mr. WALPOLE slid the intention was to arrange the
quotas equitably; but that a discretionary power would
rest with the Crown to determine what those quotas
sivuld he.
Mr. BRIGHT said the B'll clause, as it stood in the
Bill, at first went upon the principle of ascertaining the
awnber a persons fit and liable to serve; and upon that
computation to fix or apportion the quotas of persons to
be raised for the militia. By tiling the words " fit aid
liable," they took as the basis of the measure the popula-
tion of the country, so that ttecoeding to the number of
persons between 18 and 35 years of age would be the num-
ber of militiamen to be apportioned for the counties. But
as the clause new stood it contained no principle on which
the number of militia was to be raised; so that in the
discretion of the Saeretary of State. Lancashire) might
be called upon to raise 10,000 men, Yorkshire 5 000, and
Middlesex 15 000, without any reference whatever to
the relative population of the several counties. Ile con-
tended, therefore, that that was a point of which he-had
a right to complain, and that the basis upon which the
men were to be raised ought to be clearly determined and
explained.

Mr. WALPOLE said the omission of the words " fit
and liable to serve" from the Bth clause wt:s suggested
by the Right Zion. Baronet opposite (Sir C. Wood), and
he (Mr. Walpole) thought at the time that it was going
too far. Unquestionably the alteration had the effect of
giving the Crown a much larger discretionary power
than it would have had before the alteration was made;
but he did not see that it would prove burdensome where
e
the men were raised by voluntary enlistment, an e
Crown would have no power to put the ballot into
tost _
b.
ration otherwise than under the conditions stated in
Sequent clauses of the Bill.
supested the otnission of the words Sir C. WOOD said it was quridtse tahnadt 1p hhlaed”
ftrhuamt htebealBsCibtchleauugshe't but
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be
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left
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in
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thhaedforbmetteinr
which it was introduced by t.
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b° ,
quotasan e,
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ixveed , he
processwhole) f ohullos
whi) Nv"" t,hheelw)nhole of the f. roe to be rui,t.d
George 111. would have toriesTfiet tchnrdonigi:2h,lri.intoe:edievr.,t;o),
whereas, CuPtm'iccie,t, that fat wou dbe totally
by voluntary eon.:
that caae, it mattered not villa%
ienf"frt4clitld liable to Fero© in;ght resi&ut
t lere.tore,
of each
were fixed ac-
t=rosoAtryln,
in A county.
7:2irre,g(ititi,relict.-opeptidlaetieein, owl ti,..lhwtreaosutgahhlal thatt
tthhee
quite a
3 wilootil dw arses u f. in leaving a larttcr
°Pd
mi:cicBre: truattr. hy;ipt'bo law' I.
elU°rrtd.w i h InTr Mtjesty in C:,uncil; but
he entertained no 01,j,-ctEn tbit', because he wa4 cer-
tain it would properly extrei:ed. At the some time,
if it vveto thought necpsilry, rowdy might be inserted,
• -•
provr;teZ I:itY, the apportt,:.,nment bo tvade with
reterocce to the population of czch county.
Mr. MOW ATr did not anprehi-nd that the discre•
tioniiry power vetted in the d•own w, old he ex- rci-ed
partially in the came, of volunto,r,, P. was not to be ex-
rxtod, if the volunteers (rote Middl,,,sex were insullicO.nt,
and a greater number- were- offert,d in Surrey than were
rcepiirecl, that the .xcess in the latter cony should not
be taken to balance the deficiency in
.the other. What
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