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London, England, 1852-04-27 00:00:00

1 wit h very great efficiency. Bat a.-. to the principle of
this: B:11, he for one felt that ,he was not justified in sup- -I,
porting it, because he (Tooted the principle of raising, „i,
1 whether volunterily or by compel:do., 80,000 militia men
at the- par rietil.r june•tzte.—(ll,-ar.)
i Mr. DEEDISS said th,-.1-I•iu Member who lest spoke-
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had tol.l tee House that h. ii!cl not E'er a .moment doubt . - -
that if au invasion of this country took place there 1, :
would he men enough f tired rea 'y, willing, and able to ,f . .
defend its shores. Ile (Me Ireedes) had an equal cepa- :,
deuce with the lion.Cleilikuau in the readiness, wile, . ,I,; -i .-
'worts. sett gel! stary of his o,untry men ; but he had le!:
1 every reason to believe, acrd history confirmed the hAiet steA'
that those good quelities which they possessed would be „;
made more valuaule if they tad tee advantage of, some e
military tritudeet and ditetphoe.—(Hear, hens;) - One
reason why he would impress upon the House the ad- I
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vantege of some preparation being made was, that if it' '.,..0:::i')...
were understael that the country were preptired,it would : :'1
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be a great etc p gained cowards preventing the pews . Iv,
bility of an invasion.—(tlear, bear.) He observed
.rogli
that the tone of the. debate this evening had differed "
„„asits
very materially from - that of Friday nights - .1-;a:
On Friday the objections to the-' measure of - ,f4or
the Government were very varied in their character, -Slat
generally small in their matter, and did not present any sitsr
real or substantial opposition to the principle ot the Bill. ' . _lies
In the first place they had the Hon. and Gallant General slat'.
(Sir De Lacy Evans) telling the House that be had no ';
f-li`ealo,
of to the principle of .the Bill; that he admitted it "oat sdjt
was necessary to do something'with the view of putting eel.
the country into a proper state of defence; but then, be • 9l'l
added, be did not think the measure, of the Government its
weal . accomplish that object. ' With respect to what bed -
been said as to the number of petitions presented against IST
the measure, they ssould remember that the question' . :iiicil
touched the pocket of Jehn Bull, and the argztmemtum ad' I,
pocket—(Laughter)—was one on which they should ' :.4.,
net always implisitly rely; for on such a point the mass
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were likely to talc- the most short-sighted vi,w of-their l
true interests. One word as to the speech of the fleht '' if
Gentleman who had seconded the amendment (Mr- "'-
g
Rich.) That Hon. Geod. Mill at first relied for the
~,elsa2
• defence of the country On a reserve force' of. pen'. doh to
sioners, then he shifted .his reliance to the .nallt li
and subsequently to the rural podce. Independently , ,roal
of the iecousistelicy of such a mode of argument, the eI ' -
Hont.Gentleman ought to have remembered that in tiniest
of difficulty the rural police would be required for the s•
preservation of peace and the protection of property in 1.',.
the rural districts. With respect to -the chsrecter Of the i
men for a militia force, hr knew of no method but using st ,F
the ballot box, by which the Noble Lord would obtain ,-1,
none but the most eligible characters and most Liner. . .. r
ceptionable men; and he had heard with the utmost'
surprise the Noble Lord express his opposition to the . !I. :•
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pre sent measure, for there was not one word of
Noble Lord's speech on Friday night against the Bill t
that would not apply with equal force to the measure
proposed by the Noble Lord before- leaving office. It
was
was nee for him to impugn, the motives of the Noble ,
Lord; it would be for the country to decide upon this ' ~;
conduct of the Noble Lord iu ;ins matter when on that I
side of ih House and on the other (the Oopesition).- ,
Something, however, however, °ugh. to be (tow,. mai he trusted . el,„
tnat in the conflict of opinion acme one measure for 'the . - f.:'
proper defence of the country; which was so impera- , . ',4,'
tively called for, would not be lost. -As to the mode-in' , . ~"; li',
to which that datence ought to be provided tor,' if he were - ,
to give an opinion, it world be in faveur of the plan of ...‘,
the Hon. and Gallent th ntlentsh_(Colunel Reid).. He ..
trusted, however, that it the Bill e ere rej-eted inc 'Gr -
verement would not throw up a•together the considers- ' ' --,.•
den of the defence of the c-u. try. He would suggest - fu
their encouraging the formation if vniunteer curve „..
througheut the el nifed Kingdom and Ireland, 2
Mr M. GIBSON said that the measure was viewed - •I:
as one of ne ordinary importance in the naanufseturing ';"., t
districts; end bef -re speaking t n the merits of the Bill ::.-o'.
be wished to c ail the attention of the Attorney General
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to the manner iu e tech this measure. was presen ed to . -
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the House. Its the 28th clan.° bat fined that all persons-
chosen to serve uutur rile Bill- were' to be subject to the '
provisions ot the 3,1 of Gem -la; -c.- 90, and-of till other , ::0.1.
Acts amending that Act. But how were the public or
Members of Parliament to carry in their minds all those
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innumerable provisions of Acts, or earts of Acts, so as ,
to know the ac.,pe ot the measure they were new enact- . .f .
Acts
—tthlia2t 4i2tdof wouldGteeoerdg egrlelalry ttiloetphAreetir . , 4ef:..je:-'.
ing? Were all those provisions referred to fruited to
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the circumstances of ihe present time? He found in , :.
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aomnebloefsetbutirnseg
. executiou if alt the said previ-ions were comprised ins
toneheirApertoivlisPiounrsliaasztnht.
r'efshpietctiviato th-
tehecamseiltittoisw.authil
to be comprised in one Act.
torneysGenerel would extlain why thilieephra"cPt7idee, the
which
bad begun to be very generally
adopted of ei nsolidat- ,
mg Acts of Parliament bad been departed froth? - °lf
this very point Mr. Baron Parke, a short time age, le; --
r ,
the case of '' Hart v. the Eastern Union Railwity Cot
peel," observed that ~there was no small difficulty 41
constructing Ac's made up from different party of °the! ;-
Acts, which were partly repealed and partly not.' .
That was the- opiriion----ot -Baron-Parker and if that-
Learned Judge experienced a difficulty in construing 1
such Acts of Parliament, what must be the difficulty of i
Members of Parham nt and the general members of the
industrial c-entnunity ? That he took as a preliminarfi
and he thought valid objection to the Bill. They .
'eight to take away the present Bill, and come back at Is
fteure time with a Bill more likely to be carried. lle
had given notice of an amendment to postpone the
measure to another Parliament. which he thought *
reasonable proposition; seeing that they were at the
close of the present Parliametiteand that a speedy, disso-
lution had been announc dby the Minister of the Creirt; -
For when it was proposed to re susuitate a force w"--
had been discentinued for nearly halt a century, they
should have the advantage of a general action be :
tore deciding upon it, so 'that, they might have
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the satisfactien of knowing that what ver was done in ...:- ---
the matter in another Parliament had the consent of the
c untry. The manner of their proceeding in the matter .
at present was most unconstitutional. If they were to 1
be g iverned according to public Opinion—the Public` . >
opinion of the intelligent portion of the community, a5,__...---- ,
a Noble Lord in another place expressednte-what chnlo
he their orj.ction to def-rring the measure "to a nevi e . -
Parliament? Did they wish to steal a mateh'upon the-
oeuntry, fearing that elembers w,:uld b, returned ft?...
Parliament pledging to vote against it?
conduct deserved the utmost reprobation.
for
no doubt been a panic; bat, like most panics, got up
a purpose. I had hardly lasted long enough for eff,toripg
he ~bjeet iu vie. ; and now that a was dying
ire!
tl'irehmeactotenr-
, ITfhseor,ethbeadir
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aii-nitratia (Omen of emir-nt poliiiiii.i.ns as t t . , .
:I:4:tie r7:cefocritstuheohseU:::4.%;l3l:o3ir.Ute:Whißuealii'
iilB:lBpd4ppliftdiltteU.iblal:llBthCin.wofnrseerivmanativett
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ovisidn rtryw epirgohpt.weidt h. ,
iiately •presen.ed-against it; publitrmeetings were held-'"', , . ~-).
end reedit ion. peeved, ano a gen, ral feeling cf oppee
,i,ion was got up agaitat the measure, aud the Pitt' et
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Nelates.bi. tiLrlip e(iLi i,,r,d at
jtsweurtaiihsuesyi
:12Rwi
stutii,Bl,usrdledri)a;:beordt„;iurgaontud.,
itAnhgaeamiNnie:tbisiiels:.,:, :
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opposition and reason- - ' '''' s.
Lord
Th agrsseseot, then, of eminent it " '
,Btirlaintene,lBo4aBt, aud After
Lord went even farther, fur be- reduced the strength of .:
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teas regular army.
iiiicisnA on the subject cstried no w, ight with him: -it . , '
w"tild appear, Ind-rd. a, if tbere wawa draft of a Willa
B-11 in some pigeen-hole in tee Home-office, and when a
panic arose out rune the Militia Bile; the countri - " '..i ~.. .
showed it displeasure, it, yeses the militia Bill bans.- .; -,
gain .
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igain to the. pigeon. h le, and so he would undertake to e
ety would tie the case with resp•-ct to the present wee' . •
sure, which he felt convinced wtaitd not he pressed aesster-- . „,,
the second reading. If it were pressed, it would be - :.' ',(l,
"against a storm ot opposition in the country, and any ,
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attempt to force suera measure upon the country, while ' : - ' i
it would fail for want of co-opera ion, would be fraught, • , , ~
with the must dengereus consequences in owning the.: ',
.t;
di,iiffection and discontent of the people. But now that '
cee panic which had been so nicely get up fa o
r the cat' - , ,-
non hate suusided, the Hun. Memter for Warwickshire.
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(Mr. Newdegat, ) gut up, and, in the Mother Sbipton -„ , i-,,,
style, talked of what be called the feelings of predesti- ,:.;
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nation of a prince who rules in a neighbouring country, , . -...,,
,rid d-livering himself in the most oracular style, pro. , -
ce d-d to deal out to them the so.ernn warnings con-
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rained in the Duke of Wellington's letter of 1847—, •' .
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a production that was much laughed at at the time- , ..'; ,
But when Honourable Gentldrali spike
,f the Duke of to thrill: . .
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advice . ~, ,
they not themselves act upon • that *
diatinet from that which was contemplated So far from doing so, they Wellington's ath'lne, . i'il/Y . ?, ~.:1,
brought in a measure totally • .. .
,if wellington, who required a force ready at by
at hand when,
seeded, ant not the militia which :hey -proposed. He .• , ,
the Duke'-'
lad heard - with regret the Noble Levi (Lord Palmer-
atop) speaking with paihful accuracy of the construction. ~
of railways to Cherbourg aud otber ports, by which
troops could be conveyed from various parts of, the
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country to the water's edge. and put on board steamers _ . •
it once, to be landed with the utmost speed on the
shores of this country. But those railways were not yet - . . , - .
(nide; and though till that the Noble Lord spoke as pro- ,
was so, the question really . W,St,.;f:;
Irt:),tittja tt 111 OPUti tit( to be' :419' ' .47; .
designs to S'.great'
an neighbouring.,aoty
d e a l friendlygie,sepoo uwotef ..
t9,tahlulawebS:Nyitsmo becomingbimglehputut:bi rnedes
aosnOedrearneod prudent
aMembersad
uninw ot:
oe,
nation? Ought
forceo they to t., be
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those stupid inuendoes against - ---,.,-
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r for the purpose of obi Is e
in this csunfry that we knew bwetetre;','ll‘','':' '.'''i'''::
taming an „
alway 8' assuming .
Franee than the 36 000,000 ' ov::,,if '',,,:
hlt 1 .e; itgbiinhabitantsnicr govern
kissw how to govern themsefres•
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It appeared to him that the less they interfered ~
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,affairs the sirs of that country, or expatiated on its forms " . - st
of government, the better it would be for this country' ' ; see-. elf
-But the best answer to the speech of the Noble t
. Lora' ''' " f''''
(Palmerston) was a speech delivered by
Lord on the occasion when his Hon. Friend the littinnher , , --,
for the West Riding (Mr. Cobden) submitted ;to -t,he ' l'
House a motion on the subjt ct of intereationeSl srul'i't.'ts. ' ei '-
teattere Io that speech the Noble Lord deprecated the :, '• ;', .'
practice of instituting comperh-ona betweeti the forces.- ;yet
w' France and this c 'wry, and disclaimed all belief'
'as to the continua :tee, of
France being prompted by hostile feelings towards title 2: et --
country, and condemned such suspicions us unworthy,- •;:.
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public military works -i.e, • -
and. I,keiy to lead to the hostilities which seemed to , ,
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he apprehended. il hat were the facts of the pr, sent,-,,:.!ti1;:1.,:,,
Now? rho Honourable and Galiaot mover of the amend- !,`);.e.;:ee,,,,,....
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the eame-tNoble • -.-.:•:.
Leant; said there were 67.000 troops of all stmt at Pre:
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sent in the United lio,gdoca, exclusive of dockyard hair, r; ~ . •
talions and other ferces that would be available in a _ •..
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emergency. But in 1803, when, in the short pe ! ,
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of ALI-liens, war was inevitable, the whole of -the,, , t,- ,
land forces in the c tuntry
amounted to 66.574 met,—itihntrY, cavalry, *',..... ~,,,j 4' 1,,
at the opening of the y...3:d.
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artillery. After 1401(1 Whites:deb, the 131 ilibh Ain.. t:ti
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sailor, was insulted at Paris the same yaear,i_hat ol
-'rell see.
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to cons*quence returned to this couuiry, Mlt 1a,014 ~, t..
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was brought in and quieklY
whiff
stage's, and a vast military movement commenced,passed through fify_..l, .. „
petal on it, then, that when
at ',Rms
measure. was truly shown, she country. would
put the country in a state oetvedretlhenecnee.ce'sls'biteyy
ftgebuLoahe;
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