The Sun.
London, England, 1852-03-03 00:00:00

ItUSSIA.

A letter from St. Petersburgh, of the 13th ult., in
the Co?frrier du Havre, announces that the national
funds had recently advanced materially in conse-
quence of considerable investments having been made
in them on account of French capitalists. The Five
per Cents. brad risen to 103 and 109, and the Six per
Cents. frees 125 to 131. The Russian Government
baLI resal•ved to carry into execution the project of
establis►.ling a railway from Chartoff to Theodosia, and
rad ac.2epted the proposition of a private company for
that purpose, with a capital of fifty millions of
roubles (118,750 000 francs), to which the
G-cmernment had consented to guarantee an in-
tc:re4t of 3 per cent. Chartoff is a city of the
'Ukraine, situated 1 030 kilometres S.E. of St. Pe-
tersburgh, and Theodosia or Kaffa is a port on the
Black Sea, near the straits of Kertch. It is in
contemplation also to establish a railway from Mos-
cow to Chartoff, so that a direct communication will
be ultimately established between Petersburgh and
the Crimea, and the capital of Russia be thus able tc
Communicate in a few days with the Black Sea and
Odessa.

NATIONAL REFORM ASSOCIATION.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. Fox, while he admired the spirit of the rem arks
made by the last speaker, differed from him as to the
cerrectoess of his assertion. It the people were not
with the association, with whom were they? He
emphatically asserted that they were.—(Cries of
"No, no," and " Hear.") He himself was a Chartist,
and he was sure that if the Chartists went along with
this association they would have a much better chance
of obtaining the objects for which they were striving.
This, however, was not the time for the discussion of
the principles of the society—they had been settled long
ago—it was a meeting for business purposes, and the
object of it was to settle the means by which those
views could be best carried out. What was wanted
now was to effect a coincidence between Parliament and
the people, and that was not done by the present system
of representation. The first thing was to purify this
system, the effect of which was to make the majority
subordinate to the minority. What they wanted was
to reverse this; and he thought that the proposed re-
distribution of Members was the best means of effecting
this, far better than the plan of Lord John Rowell.
Mr. G. Dawsote said that he was a thorough Chartist
himself, and had at a meeting of 'he tatteiatio,
at Birmingham proposed and carried an amend-
meet in favour of teeiversal suffrage. He had re-
gretted that the association had not committed itself
to a broad principle on this point. He had always
been an enemy to obstructive policies, and he never
would be guilty of it, and for that reason, though he
would never give up universal suffrage, he should never
refuse to give help to any who went that same way. but
were not yet ready to go quite so fete That was the sense
too of the town et Birmingham.
Mr. M'Cimaitoll said that the only claim which he
had to the notice of the association was, that since the
time he had had a seat in Parliament he had supported
the motion for universal suffrage. He regretted that
more of his countrymen were not present on that
eccasion, but he could assure the meeting that as far as
his individual constituency went they- were altogether in
favour of the asaociaton. Lord Derby was now is power,
and it was impossible to tell what he meant to do, but
it was rumoured that ho meant to take the cheap
loaf from them which free-trade had given them. If he
did, then the time would come when they must jtin the
flea of Reform to that of Free-trade, /fed insist in calling
on the people in a mass to say and determine whether
they would have a corn-law or not. The great object they
had to attain was unanimity, without it they could do
nothing.—(Cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN said that now the time had come when
the delegates from the different constituencies of the
country would come forward and announce the state of
feeling in their different localities.
• A DELEGATE said, that with regard to the question
of Mr. Fox, if the people were not with this association,
where were they? he asserted that the people were
not supporting tnis reform or that reform, but the
brewers and publicans, the greatest enemies of the
community,—(Lent laughter.)
Mr. GESSIN, of Bedford, said that in his borough the
general feeling was in favour of progressive reform. He
was a member of the legal profession, and was
desirous of seeing the practice of the law reformed. He
was not a Chartist—(Cries of Oh," and laughter)—
but was desirous of seeing all reform obtained by fair
and peaceful means. He had not, however, the slightest
intention of reflecting on the Chartists.
Mr. DEAN was an advocate of the rights of man, and
when any man proved to him what his rights were he
would he the firtt to join in obtaining those rights.
Mr. Dom, of Finsbury, regretted that he could not
act with this association. They had nut the people
with them, nor would they have until they receenised
the great principle of inantetod suffrage. He could not
see why a war cry should be got up against Lord
Derby, he had done nothing against the people.—(Cries
cf " Oh, ob," and laughter.)
The CHAIRMAN begged the conference to give the
gentleman a fair hearing, as he appeared as an advocate
of Lord Derby.
Mr. Dices denied that he was an advocate of Lord
Darby, or any humbug whatever.—(Laughter.) He
would not support Financial Reformers merely as
each, they must embrace the real basis of Parliamentary
retorm—universal suffrage.
Mr. LE BLOND. of Bradford, hoped that the meeting
would not accept Mr. Dick as a representative of the
Chartist body. Ho repudiated him as such. With re•
gard to the town from which he came, it was a town
where reform was greatly needed. There was a strong
branch association there, which in its principles went far
• beyond the programme of the mother aeaociation, but
was ready to co-operate with it to obtain as great
-a measure of reform as possible. He agreed with
what had been said, that there was a greater danger to
the people fr .m the m\ tlern aristocracy of Weill:. thau
there ever a i boat. fret the thudel aristocracy of
The Rev. Mr. PARS:NS (Gtuacester), introduced him-
self as a Chartist and a loyal subject. He bad once gone
ae far as to endeavour to prove the justice of the six
points from Scripture. He did not care who was chief
111_ egietrate, whether Qieen or President; what be
werlardee WWI a chief magi,trate to govern he people ac-
B,.?l'lielntt to the laws the people had made.-0; neers
ling it to be the desire of our present gracious So-
verei
pre-eißcinute. do. so, he would not exchange her fur all the
frict fre‘ms In
Chriatenitom.—(Loud cheers.) The tits-
-40,000 whicA he came, Stroud, centairted about
marten, People,but who believed in the six points of the
ot the suffra,ze content to begin with a large extension
and continental reform great difference between Ertglieh
by blowin ;theorna was, that there they always be-
ganpat
some
brains out, while here we
attempted to
Tore brains in.—(Cheers and
laughter.) They died
tieing men. Foe hi
" want dead, taey wanted
he had no liking for
andultdu
hereditary faith; ae
like a men to begin
as an ietidel in politics
faith. He believed that ie e reasoned into the true
20,000 could easile be got
together,ht district a meeting of
an I hind with the obj-ets
ofthees,:leo would go heart
at
tte same time he or they wonhenoltatine, althoutth
of Charter.—(Cheers.) 'hit people
give up a sin le
Paint the hit people had car-
, nett the old 11,form
Bill ae '
riat all the corm
- Parliament, and they could do the p.m('
.of
ore same name—.
natural for aristoer •
Cheers.) It wa3 aristocratic stomachs
it was known that to
like corruption, because they could
h
not eat gaine till ie wed little , high.—(Laughter,) They
liked corruption, and they conlet.sea it; but the Whig's
went W6lnpering about ainst it, and yet constant
• fed on it, on the sly. Like the boy stealing apples, de..
scribed by Cowper, treY
-- blew d nod protested, then joined in the plan,
Partook of the plunder. and pitied the m 4n."
(Laughter.) He' would say to theca d ir't wind Whigs
or 'Curies, but join with toe a,secare ion fir an enlarged
suffrage, end strive for the ballot, and by Perseverance
very little time would elapse
before every reform had
been carried,
Mr. Hoe-roercE that he was one of the Council
of the National Charter Association, and on behalf of
that association he could say that they were ready to
join in confederated action with the Parliamentary Re-
form Association, as having the same ends, though n3°-
diti(,,d, with themselves. He had also been long a
werker in associations for social reform, and on behalf of
such associations he could say that they would also aid
in attaining Parliamentary reform.
The Rev. Mr. BURNS said that for the last few years a
conviction had been gaining strength among the Die-
• centers of this country that it was the duty of Christian
ministers to mingle to some extent in politica. A meet-
'kg had been held by the Dissenting ministers of the
metropolis, in which a resolution was come to to support
the association.
tdt
r....ARNEST JONES, who was received with loud h c eers,
protestede against the manner in which the business of
Is 'conference had been conducted, in not all, •
ewing a
Y' 40 to at,
(17. but those who they knew would vote in favour
their motions ' confining the speakers to
etoentet. ~n , and in .
.ten
I that time was impossible for him to
-rose what it w
atreaauee who , his Ish to do, sod tea; was, that the
a,
.3 fact
we... 1, this attoctaien proposed was reactiJnary,
It workbag ,d 1,1181" they had not, and would not have
set ilidanotto,„.l7 with them, and without them they
mite to prove, and heese two propos-itiona he would urahr-
'or ally other ir,o„Aerehri'mlged Sir Jiia'nul
'discus& the qw.atihn e,
Nothe council, to meet him and
thieg but etc.), diency would
compel the Chartists to •
geeeral opinion among the association, and the
could do better without toe: Chartists was, that they
• Mr, T. CLARK, of .Manchester,
associationte.
•and was received with che r. then stood forward,
'from ethers ot " Traitor,ers fr" one party, and cries ,
great that for some time nq spy The noise was so
eathough several rose in differen;pa er could be heard,;
G
Mr. G. TIIoMPSON Called the nieretsof the conference..:
ting to order. He
never had in all his experience sees
so
the part of a mere section ate meetiz much violence on
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and with such calainefa.