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London, England, 1864-01-05 00:00:00

BUCKS COUNTY ELECTION,

report; and ho should plaCe' not only himself but the cone
mittee andthe Court it &Also position it he agreed to such
a proposition. (Hear, hear.) ..On the ether. hand, if the pro-
position of Mr. Esdaile did not go, so far, it was only assert-
ing, in'othef WordS;` what had' been .assrumed. ' lie did not
think that there was anything unreasonably binding's:on the
justices in his resolution, and believed that itconveyed every
reasonable latitude that ought to be given.. It had been
stated that when the report was laid on the table a proinise
was. giventhat therstibject should be brought forivard- In a
string of resolutions. No such promise had been: given by
him; bat he would go so far as to say that such had been hie
intention, and he ihOuld 'have'dene so had the -chairman of
the justices been-able to meet, and had he not been driven
to the necessity of acting for himself on account of the pres-
sure of time. The whole point of Lord Cholmondeley's ob-
servations was this, that it was unwise to pledge the Court
by the adoption of this report to any precise' details.-- Bat
the Court were not drawing up enact of Parliament or spe•
cifying every little detail !which might be necessary for car-
rying out the seheme: ' (Hear, hear.) This was a matter
between the Caurtand thejustiCes. If they accepted in ' a
frank ,manner, she, spirit of these recommendations all petty
questions of detail might, be easily and satisfactorily settled,
If the justices met withdifficulties the Court might assist
in removing thoief difficialties by enlarging their powers.
The proposals which, had been made for agreement • were
alto Fist identical with this
_resolution, and if they only
meant that they were etiPeiflious and worse than super-
fiaons, because they would thiow . suspicion du the
re-
ports, and imply, that; ,there; was some secondary motive
beyond that which was apparent, he
,helieved the adop.
Lion; of 'the amendments would' be " injurious to the re-
peril. They were of two classes. The first and the
thira referred to matters of detail, and they were
scarcely worthY of objection;, with regard to the plank
bedie he never had any intention of binding the justices
clomp to any particular 'number. All he desired was that
the !experiment should be tried. (Hear, hear.) But the other
two; points were of great importance—the questions of
evening instruction and-the' chapel arrangements. With
regard to,the question of instruction, the proposition of the
justices was this—that the whole or a portion of such in-
strUction could not be advantageously given in the evening.
The proposition in the report was not to give instruction in
theklay, but in the evening. Now he was at a loss to un-
deretand what objection could be urged to evening instruct
tiori. That system was a practiCal one, It had been tried
and it had succeeded. In the Irish convict prisons it 'had
been the practice to limit instruction to the evenings, and
every one knew that the system had answered. And he
•
could, from personal inquiry, bear testimony to the fact that
such a system was agreeable to the prisoners. But he would'
go a step further, and say that he objected to instruction
be4ig given in the day. Instruction given during working
hoitrs was vicious, in principle. These hours ought to be
deyioted to work and nothing but work. Prisoners were
corlimitted to prison not to be educated, but in the first in.
sten° ce to be punished. Punishment was the primary con-
sderation, Instruction ought only-to be a *secondary one.
(H ar.). The Court had always shown a deference for the
°Pi ion. of Parliament, and when ,they found. that two
bo ies differently constituted—a committee of the House of
Lo de and a Royal commission,' preSided over by Lord
Gr y—had . without concert and communication come to
an identical recommendation with respect to evening
instruction, he thought that fact ought to have considerable
weight with the Court. (Hear, hear.) 'With regai:d to the
chapel the visiting justices recommended that no steps
shOuld be taken. The report recommended that with a
view to render communication more difficult the Court
sheuld' agree to re-stall the chapel, but supposing the ex-
pense too heavy to be incurred at this moment they sug-
geested that the alternate seats should be vertical. But
the recommendaton and . the alternative had both been re-
jected by the justices, although they admitted they present
"system to be unsatisfactory. -It had been said that the car-
ry ng out of the report .would be attended with great ex-
pease, but he entertained a very different opinion, and
en;ered into some statistics to show that the amount ex.
pe ded in the employment of an increased number of- officers
to arry out a really deterrent system would be more than
"co pensated by the reductions in the number of recommit-
ta . To show UT lightly the present system was treated,
th? noble earl mentioned an instance in which a labourer
on hie release from Winchester, on being asked what he
thought of the treatment, replied, " You can hardly tell how
g odnatured and kind and civil they are, they weighed my
fo d for me every morning ; they came every day and asked
if had anything to complain of and if I desired "any alte-
r ion to be made; and if it had not been for the desire of
,sing my wife and family I should have had no objection

Last evening the `Chancellor Of the Exchequer
delivered an address to the members of the.reading7
room at Buckley, Flintshire. Sir Stephen Glynue
occupied the chair, and the room was well filled.:
Mr. Gladstone, after referring to the in3metliate
object which had called them together—the inau-
guration of a working man's' reading-room—said
there was a striking resemblance between the na-
tural habits of animals and men. It was natural
for the animal to divide its time between labour,
food, and slaep. So it ought to be with Man ; but
man ought also to give a portion of his time to ine
telleetual pursuits. What were the competitors
with these
iinstitutions for the employment of the
spare time of the labouring man ? There was the
public-,house, and, theugh he would not speak in
extz erne language of those houses, as was:the prae
tics of some, they would no doubt agree with him
that the public-house was not a desirable place for
ee labouring man to spend that portion of his time
which was not required for food or sleep, and that
schools and reading-rooms were greatly preferable.
Having spoken_further upon the general question
Of the utility of working men's educational institu-
tions of the kind they were then, inaugurating, Jae
dwelt upon the means which working men
generally possessed for forming them. , He ob-
e,erved that Englishmen were_ not by far so
thrifty as the inhabitants of Scotland and
Wales; • •but not only, were ' Englishmen less
thrifty than Scotchmemor Welshmen, but they-were
less thrifty than the French. labouring man, while
the latter got alto 30 per cent. less wages than the
former. It had been for many years the desire and
effort of the legislature of this country to do what
they could to induce -the labouring classes of this
country to be'thrifty and careful, and with this ob-
ject they had established the Post-office Savings
Banks, so 'that nothing now was wanting but the
disposition to be provident, and that disposition, al-
though it could- not be supplied by an Ant of Pdelia-
ment, might be greatly encouraged by such facili-
tie); for imvestment h' thbse to which he had referred.
They' Could not possibly confer upon *men of an
independent free community like ours a greater
blessing than that of enabling them to serve and
help themselves. The right hon. gentleman referred
at some length to the virtue of thrift, recommending
it for the reasons that it enabled labouring men to
put out their children to trades and businessee, and
also prepared them for a rainy day. Savings banks
had been in existence for nearly a quarter of a cen-
tury, and £40,000,000 had bleu deposited with them
—that amount being almost entirelythe property of
the working classei„ Post-office. savings banks had
now been established, with the, object not, of rivalling
any other institution,' but of encouraging as much as
~ , •
possible the efforts of ' the working classes to save
their money and to secure for themselves a safe
depository for their savings. These banks, of which
there'were3,oooi'n the country, were exactly adapted
to the requirements; of the, labouring population,
who did not want to deposit any hut small eums, and
who, having perhaps no secure placein which to
keep their money, could place it there, where it
would not 'be 'taken away, as it might be when
temptation came if kept in ' the house. Another
advantage which these banks presented was that,
While there were 3,000 of them, the depositor put
his money into but one bank. The Bank of England.
had branches in different parts of the country into
which persons might :pay
.money and receive it at
any other bank.. So it was with these 3,000 Post-
office Savings Banks. If a man put, money into
any one of these 3,000 banks, he could draw it out
from any other of them. When first the system was
introduced it was not liked, because some people
said that the Government wanted the people to take
their money to the Pest-office Savings Bank, and
then the Goyernment, knowing how much money
the labouringolasees possessed, would impose some
tax or otherwhieh did not then exist. Bat the fact
was, that the Post-office authorities, although they
had to receive the money, dare not tell anybody the
amountedeposited. - -There was therefore no oppote
Innity, for the inland revenue officer to know- he
exact amount deposited; and then report it to Govern-
ment. Oue thipg which kept some people away from
these banks was a fear that they coula not make their
deposits without * the risk of their accounts being,
peeped into by other people. He crad not believe
the old savings banks were very particular about
this, for they had not .the means of enforcing the
strictest eeeresy, ,because it was desirable that
the trustees and managers should be cognisant
of the deposits made.:, In the. Post-effice Savings
Banks the Legislature had endeavoured .to meet
this difficulty as much as possible, and only one
person, the postmaster, was 'authorised to see the
accounts, while he was forbidden by law to disclose
to any one the names of depositors. Some people did
not like,Post-office Saving Banks, as he had before
observed,; because the. Government would try
to ascertain through them how much more taxing
the people could bear ; but he considered himself
guiltless of any scheme of that kind, and if there
had beeti ail' elicit intentibri on the Part of the
Goyernmentethe law Would have been that the post-
master should make's rettiert 011ie Inland Revenue
Office of the amounts deposited. Onegreat benefit
in connection with the Post-office Savings Banks
was, that all the peoperterof the country was liable
1 fo and
,if depositors' money, anif one, ten, twenty,
or fifty 'postmasters were to run away with the
money in their hands, the depositors would not be
affected id 'the slightest degree: • His total would
remain exactly where it was, and his mope), ,would
berePaid him, notwithstanding the default of the
postmaster.. After some further remarks, the right
hod. gentleman concluded amidst loud applause.

• -
XtEPORTED Loss OF A LARGE PASSENGER
SEIII...AdVices were received on Saturday report
..
ing the sUpposed-lossOt Was. believed,
.of, a large .passenger
ship in the 'vicinity 'Of the'. Orkneys. ' The wreck has the
ap)?earance of having been a large class vessel, but nothing
has been communicated as 'to ter name. A number of dead
bodies are stated to have been fciundin a kind of cave, ita'if
washed in by the sea. A quantity of wreck has also been
cast itthore. •
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AYLESBURY, Jan. 4.

The official declaration of the poll was made in the County
Hall this morning. The room was well ffilti, .and Mr.
Harvey was supported, as on the day of nomination, by a
strong and influential body of friends. _ _ .. •

The High shdriff (Mr. P. C. LOVETT) said it now became
his duty to declare the result of the polling, which was ar;
fOilows :

Harvey 2,311

Lee

• Majority for Harvey
The numbers were received with loud cheering from Mr.
Harvey's fritnes.
The High Sheriff then deClared Mr. R. B. Harvey duly
elected to represent the county of Buckingham in Parlia-
ment—(cheers)-7-and personally congratulated him •upon
his success, wishing him health and happiness long to enjoy
his honotiri.

Mr. HARVEY then stepped forward to address the elec-
tors, and was_received with loud cheers. He said it would
be base ingratitude on his part if he attempted to conceal or
refrained from expiessing the pride he felt at the result of

the contest. He did not look upon it as a conquest over

one indiNidual, but as a decided Conservative triumph.
Their predictions had been fulfilled ; the old cause was
triumphant; but let them render their victory more com-
plete by holding their ground, and resisting any attempt for
the future to wedge in a Liberal for the county. If one so
young as he might presume to offer advice to his venerable
opponent; it would be that for the future he left out of his
addresses the statement that he had never put the candi-

dates in any county to expense. (Hear.) His good friend
might offer him a cheque, to which he might say, " No."
(A voice, I'm sure he will.") He did not think he would,
when on New Year's -moral he 6ortittalletv'ttirvateretto

walk to the poll—blue and buff,ilideed they were—(laughter)
—while he (Dir.llarvey), like another Levite, was obliged to
pass them by. (Laughter.) As that was a time of peace
and goodwill, let him hope that if any bitter feelings had
been aroused in the contest they would now be all forgot-

ten. (Hear, hear.) He was proud to be the member for
Bucks. He went to Parliament not as the representative of

one party, but as the accredited representative of all. (Hear,
hear.) He trusted that whenever the time came he would
be found at his post, and that the seat he had now obtained
would never be sullied by defeat in future years, (Cheers.)
Dr. LEE then came forward, and was received with cheers,
He wished all a happy new year, and then addressed him-

self to the ladies who were present. lie was the only one
of all the speakers during the election who had condescended
to notice the ladies. Not one of the boasting Conservatives

—(laughter)—thought them worthy of notice ; but no
doubt if the galleries were filled with hares and pheasants,
they would have been glad to have caught hold of them and
put them in their preserves. (Laughter.) He appeared be-
fore them in the great case of Harvey v. Lee, charged with
high crimes and misdemeanours for having put his oppo-
nent to some expense. He could not congratulate himself
norhis friends on the reault-of the election. (A laugh.) He
did not regret having continued the contest, as it was done
with the view of giving the Liberal electors of,Bucking-
hamshire an opportunity of recording their votes, and of
preventing the county from'falling into the hands of parties
whom they-must consider as the enemies of all true pro-
gress. In this contest be had no paid agencies, he had. not
asked an individual for a vote ; had used no intimidation,
no coercion, no persuasion. The conduct of his opponent
was a complete contrast to that.- He had left no exertions
untried ; no. legal practitioner unretained ; gamekeepers,
smokers, drinkers, and all the o. her electioneering agen-
cies had been called into requisition.; many a bottle of
champagne had had its neek broken in support of his
cause. (A laugh.) He (Dr. Lee) attributed his defeat
to the admirable electioneering tactics of his opponent,
and to tho alMost total absence of those who were gene-
rally styled the Liberals of the county. They had de-
fiertedliirq in his utmost need. (Laughter, and a Voice,
"They didn't want you.") He had been asked how he
dared come forward to oppose the brother-in-law of the
Duke of Buckingham—it was ungentlemanly on his part to
oppose; him—he had no chance—he would put Mr. Harvey
to great expense, and so forth. His answer to all that was
that he calculated neither relationship nor expense, He held
certain principles, and was determined to go to the poll
with them. He would not b intimidated either by Whig
or Tory. If he saw oppression going on in a Whig house,
he would sooner vote for an honest, independent Tory than
a grinding, base Whig. (Cheers and laughter) In conclu-
sion, he thanked those Liberals who had supported him, ex-
pressing his pleasure at the absence of all personal and hos-
tile feeling during the election, and wished his friends awl
his opponents all health and happiness.
Mr. HARVEY then moved , and Dr. LEE seconded, a vote
of thanks to the High Sheriff for his just, able, and impar-
tial condud While iu the chair.
This was carried with aoolamation, and the Him"
SHERIFF briefly returned thanks.
Mr. W. S. LOWNDES then called for three cheers for the
ladies, which, being heartily responded to,
Dr. LEE humorously moved, as an amendment, that no
such honour should come trora,the Tories.
The proceedings then terminated.