The Sun.
London, England, 1852-04-24 00:00:00

EVENING, APRIL 24, 1852.

If that, need been the cash I should hive been glal
to
have veted with the Hen. and Gallant Trember for
Lincoln—(Hear, and cries of " Order, order")—whe
hies laketi that view of the merits of -this Bill, that
Although objectional:le in some respects he is in favour
of seeing it go into Committee. But lam persuerhd
that, At the present time especially, while it would be
'most difficult to frame amendments which were cons°.
rant with the spirit of the Bill, it would on the other
eand !::13 exceedingly difficult for the Governnaent to ac-
cept a measure which woutd r quire that total alteration
which I think this one requires. I have, therefore, come
to the opinion that, thinking the measure totally futile
eend inefficacious, believing that it will not be a good and
Cachou defence to the country, I shall vote for the
etnendment, and against the further progres of the Bill.
betel PALMERSTON—I had hoped that when this
!Inoue was eallel upon to consider a measure which had
teen altnitted in its; principle, at least, if not in its de-
esils—ie its object if not in its provisions--by all par-
ties, by both sides of the House—(Loud cheers from the
rlittiterie/ sido, and counter cheers from the Opposi-
tion)—by the Government that was, and by the Govern-
ment that is, to bo essential fur the best interests of the
country, the measure would have been discussed solely
with a view to the defence and security of the realm and
that no party feeling--( rretnendeus cheering and corn-
cheering)—that no party feeling would have mile:A
itself up with the discussion of the present night.—(3—
riewed cheers.) I confess, Sir, it is with much sure, ise
and with still greater pain that I have witnessed the Hue
which the Neble Lori and those of his followers—
(Cheers and counter cheers)—have thought it their duty
to take on the present occasion. The Noble Lord, in-
deed, more practised in Parliamentary warfare, has
steed his objections wide much greater discretion and
kill. His intended rejection of the measure is not
:he less positive and announcede—(Further cheers.)
But the two Honourable Gentlemen (memb• rs of
'he former Government) who spoke in the early
part of this debate, adianced arguments and stated
Injections which went as strongly against that measure
which no doubt they would have supported if the last
Government had continued in power, as they would pos-
sibly apply to the mea,ure which is now under diseus•
Aon ; at,d I must say I wonder the Noble Lord should
have finished the statement he made without reproach-
ing his Hon. Friends for their desertion of that standard
under which they had fought under his command.—
(Hear, and laughter.) I must beg to set right at once
an assertion which the Noble Lord has repeated to-
night, and which he has often stated before—that he
was prevented by the motion I made and carried from
tiringing in the Bill which he had stated his inten-
iou to propose.—(Cheers.) My motion produced no
effect, except that of determining the Noble Lord
co resign.—(Oneers and counter cheers.) If I had pro-
posed that the resolution should be read that day six
months—if I had proposed a negative to the resolution
—that no resolution should be bronght in—then it
would have been true I had opposed and prevented the
bringing in of the Bill ; but the object and effect
of my motion was simply to make the title
tf the Bill in harmony with the provisions
the Noble Lord himself had stated, and there-
tore I deny the assertion that the motion I made pre-
vented the Noble Lord from bringing in hie Bill. The
late Government, after maturely considering the state of
zhe national defences, came deliberately to the opinion
hat a militia force of some kind was necessary for the
lefence of the realm—(Hear, hear)—but we have now
heard from the Noble Lord that a militia force is not the
proper force—(Loud cheers and counter cheers)—that
it would be far better to have a small amount of embo.

-lied militia—better to add to your pensioners, and va-
rious other methods, by which it is proposod to
~.have
.100,000 men in the permanent pay of the United king-
tom for the purpose of defending the realm. That was
;lot the measure which the last Government, upon full
ieliberation, proposed, and which, being, as they had
foreseen, negatived, they thought the refusal was of such
paramount importance that they could not think they
could longer, with credit to themselves, hold the admi-
liqration of affairs.—(Hear.) With regard to the mat-
er itself, I must say I think great ignorance prevailsin
country both as to the inadequate state of our defences
and as to the real reality of the danger to which we are
exposed. The Noble Lord has very fully explained
how impossible it is, notwithstanding the peaceful na..
ture—the friendly nature—of our relations with foreign
power', to reckon with confidence that some unforeseen
~vent may not, from year to year, take place which may
put you In a position in which you cannot either resent
insult or injury, or submit to invasion. Many persons
out of doors, who discuss this matter, seem to think the
question of peace or war depends on the opinion of one
,arty alone—that it is in the power of any country whe-
her they should remain peaceable or should take up arms
ei their defence. But that cpestion depends not upon one
party alone, but upon those from whom aggressic.ei may
expected—(Hear, hear)—and it has been stated by
.nany Hun. Gentlemen, and the Hon, Member for the
West Hiding has been reminded to-night that he himself
,numerated
po-
sition
various occa4ions in the course of the last
:1:1! years, in which this country was brought into a po-
sition in which war might have been unavoidable. Now,
if war be an event against the possibility of which you
,54nnot provide, then we must consider whether as to
tat country especially which, without any unfriendly
feeling towards it, or without at all anticipating
he real arrival of an event that may place us in
hostility with it, we must nevertheless regard as one
~f the Powers with which possibly we may perhaps he
involved in war, circumstances have occurred of late
volts which mi,tht have some effect on the off .nsive

`e lines
, that might arise. - I hsiEtll;;;rd many, say,
" Why alarm yourselves about the chances of war; we
have never been invaded since Heaven knows when? We
have during the last thirty or forty years been in perfect
tranquillity. Bonaparte tried to invade us in 1804, and
we sit know how difficult were his preparations to make,
and that it would have been easy to have, defeated them;"
bat when they refer to that former state of things as a
proof we need be under no alarm as to the possibility of
invasion now, it is as it a person told me that, some
,hirty or forty years ago, it to ill three days and nights
to come from Edinburgh to L nuks, therefore it was
impossible to Come new.in twelve hours—(Hear, hear)
—that beeaose, thirty or' ,forty years ago a person iu
Dahlia waVfor weeks without receiving any direct intel-
ligence from Loodon, therefore it was impossible now
communications might be transmitted, as I have no doubt
they will be; from one town to the other in as many
minutes as formerly it took days, especially in the pre-
valence of the westerly winds. It augurs an entire forget-
fulness of the improvements made in modern times for
any man, to argue from what happened 30 or 40 years
that it might happen now. The application of steam
to navigation has ip effoot made a bridge over the chan-
nel and has brought the means,of qaick attack—an at-
tack on a 'scale of great 'magnitude- which did not exist
before,—(Hear.) But it is said we sheuld know before
.hand it any preparations were made. I say you might,
hot knoW—(llear, hear)—because, by the internal ar-
rangements-efrailways the distribution of troops is such
that 50,000 or 60,000 men might, be- collected at Cher-
bourg before you 'knew anything of the matter; and
those who have seen what those immense works are-must
he perfeCtly aware that a number of men could walk from
the pay into their vessels as easily as they could walk
into their birrack-yard.—(llear,
,hear.) A night would
bring them over, and all our naval preparations, be they
what they might, could not be relied on to prevent the
arrival of such an expedition, as no batteries or gun-
boats we might have on our shores could be relied on to
prevent the landing of the expedition when it had ar-
rived.—(Hear,' hear.) The history of all times and all
nations, and the history of our own nation in especial,
proviei that a large force, wh,n it is. determined to land,
wilt land against all opposition whatever.—(flear.) Be-
sides, can you reckon ',that the invading force shall be
one, end directed against one paint only.—(Hear.) There
are many points against which an expedition may con-
currently sail; one portion of the force might land in Ire-
land,. another on a distant part of our own island, while
a third, designed for the metropolis, might land on the
coast over against the metropulis.—(Hear, hear.) Our
limited garrisons would be, in such a case, divided and
distracted—(Hear, hear)—if we heard of an expedition
landing in Ireland, everybody would say, " Send all the
forces to Ireland," and then an expedition landing , on
the southern coast would not find a force adequate to
resist it.—(heir, hear.) I therefore say, that the pre-
sent amount of the standing army, adding the pensioners
—excellent troops,
,but Who from their oonclition, being
men past the prime of life, have not the repired activity-
of frame, and the extent of the augmentation of whom,
moreover, bas'been greatly exaggerated,--but, including
all, regular troops and pensioners, the amount_ of our
standing army, I say. is not sufficient to meet an mei-
gency Of that kind. As to the marines, on whom soil
gentlemen count, they would.be required to go on board
ship, and cannot, therefore, be reckoned on as part of
the home garrison:—(Hear, hear.) There are two waoXs
.
in which the deficiency I speak of may be made
but ge
We may add materially to our standing arin
`foi one, am utterly opposed to such anaclyi bition.—
(11,,ar, hear.) To make that addition to our regular
army would requireamohnt of expenditure unhtc_;
the. country would not bear, and- which_ the be
via;
is the
ought not to bear.—(Hear, hear.) Tee other
an army
organization of a militia, meaning -
of reserve, or body of men drilled abnYd
ld not cost us
for a portion of the year, and which wore trained only
one-tenth of what an equal e for which we
number of:
Would cost; so that for the expenditure gular troops
men to the regular
might have an additional, say, 8,000
only partially
.
'OOO militiamen
army;-we might have 80,
len of adding the
trained.—(lleari'hear.) AdoptP
thedid happen?.. 11l tell
8,000, troops, and what le same thing would
you what would 'happen; justat would happen to the
happen .to aide 8,000 'men
t 't is amid, redundant.where
colonial troops, who being, 88_1 home, The Hon. /item-
they are, it is proposed to Y.
ha
other gentleman, has pro-
ber for Montrose; or some o
of the troops now in
posed to have a large proportionb9in, unnecessary far the co-
thicolonies sent home, as
e home, and the'Hon. Gentle-
lonics; bat let them cem
would next prop?se,
not to keep them as an addi-
tion to the home garrison,
man
but to disband and get rid of
them
immadlatel'v.-- (Hear, hoar.) And so it Would ise
m' entary regular troopa hive
with the 8,000 suPPI,e-he House, feeling deeply for the
pointed to.- Sul:V:oBin,, 1
.of our permanent dee
moment the inadequacy
000'or 10,000 men to the "el
were to agree to add 8, h ,regu ar
wont 1 keei) this year, perhaps next
arm)", Y°llyear there would recur a feeling of
year, but in the third i
would say, "we have had
econermy, and gentlernL got up f invasion;_no in-
vasion; 'these men, Were
, no invasion don'c Want them;" they would ba tha-
n ur osesof '
,banded, and then for e p defence they would
'h • though they had never been under arms.
3116 t ag ; 80 000 militiamen •
Bat, if you have • •• _. trained this year
ain that
and the next, even suPP° g -at in the third year some
motives of economy, a bad harvest, a defective revenue:
dr some oMei-occurrence 'should 'induce- the HOUSe to
with+lraw _,the, annual vote for the training of this
we ihetild still have a valuable -result Ter Or
zo,o4l4l“,,,,i;;;brev'aillolfave :80007 nici,7o.rtilttlyl
trained, armed, equipped, enregimented, enrolled, and
aLi :u so.bo celled ou6 at ten days' uotio0,1401:ld dauger

Lord NAAS ohp-eted to the amendment, on the ground
that it would re-open a question which had already been
,e.ttled, and would create great inconvenience and con-
rusion. •

Ter some discussion, the amendment was negatived
without a divisiou.

This and the remaining clauses of the Bill were then
agreed to, and the douse resumed.
On the order of the day for going into Grnimittee on
the Improvement of Towns (Ireland) Bill being read,
letrd NABS observed, that as the measure was of a
very c)mplicated ns'ure and was likely, he believed, to
meet with considerable! otposition, he begged to move
that the order be 'ditcharged.

..
The motion Wai agreed to, and the order was dis-
charged accordingly.
The Sheep, &c.. Contsgious Disorders Prevention Bill,
the Po.ir itc.lief Ant Continuance Bill, and the Exche-
quer:bills (17,742,8001) Bill were severally read a tbird
time and passed.
Sir W.,,JOLLIFFE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
continue au ATitfor autporising the applicAtion of highway
races to turnpike roads.' ' The Hon. Baronet also obtained
leave to bring in a Bill for further continuing certain tem-
porary provisions concerning coclesiastind jurisdiction
in Enoland
a • . .
The Bills were brought in, end were read,a first time.
Mr. HERMES moved the re-nomination of the Select
_Committee on Indian territories.
Mr. ANSTEY objected to the motion. on the ground
that the selection of Members to constitute the Com-
mittee was one. sided. The. Committee comprised seve- 1
rel Members of the East India Company, three of whom
were directors, while he looked in vain for the name of
the Hon. Member for Manchester (Mr. Bright), and the
Hon. Member for the Tower Hamlets (Mr. G. Thomp-
son), both of whom, it wls well known, took great in-
terest in Indian afftirs. He thought it was pretty clear
what the character of the report would be, and that that
proposed inquiry would, under the circumstances, be no-
I thing but a mockery. The Committee aa proposed was
one in which the people of India might not to have, and
would not have, the Aightest c ,nfidonce.
Mr. SCHOLEFtELD moved to strike out one of the
names proposed (and selected that of Mr. Moore), in
order to substitute that of Mr. Anstey.
Mr. HERRIES observed that that Hon. and Learned
Member opposed the appointment of the Committee, and
said ho Er lieved it would be useless.
Mr. Scbolefl ld's motion was negatived, and the Com-
mittee was appointed, constituted as fAlovit:—Mr. Ile
ries, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lard John -r-
Sir William ames
Rus-
sell, Mr. Baring, Sir Charles Wood, Mr. Baillie. Mr.Viiiacrodu.nt Jocelyn.g oVleise:
GI a,:istone, Mr. Newdegate, Mr. L tbouchere Siri
Graham, Mr. AldPraian Thoropm;
woit.,b, Sir Robert Harry
Vis-
count Mahon, Mr. Cobden, Inglis;ig. Inge, Mr. Milner
Gibson, Sir James Emerson Tenn
Culabrooke,
Sir James /Legg, Mr. Hums, Mr. Banker,eriMr. Mingles,
jur.
Plowden,M Mr.
Vernon
Hilyard, Mr. James Wilson, Mr.
Smith, Sir ' 111 Si.; REtibwe ratr 3
Spooner. and Mr. Cardwell.
The House adjourned at five minutes past One o'clock.

IRISH. RAILWAYS,
COMPLETION OF THE DUBLIN AND BELFAST JUNCTION
RAILWAY.--OH Monday, when the, morning mail-train
arrived at Wellington Inn (whence it was dispatched
.by
road to Newry, and thence-to Millaghglass station, two
miles north of 'Newry, the intermediate part of the tine
is not yet completed); it-trial trip tonk place over the new
works of 'he railway compriaedi in- the foregoing-tine.
Sir John Macneill, with four of the director% proceeded
by engine over nearly the entire space, and; we under-
stand, expressed his satisfaction at the manner in which
,the works were executed. The directors expect to be
able' to open the line direct by the 10th of May;,, and
about that period it may be 'expected. that a change in
the receipt and' diapatch of; probably, all the northern
mails will take place.—Newry Examiner.
The loth of May is named tor the opening, of. the
Waterterd and Limerick Railway from Tipperary to
Clonmel, and rapid strides are making between Clonmel
and Carrick in the progress of the works, and no doubt
need now be entertained of its completion to Dunkitt by
the_end of this year.

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of, ervous Debility and Determination of,Blood to the Head.,
--Elttract of a letter from Mr: John. Lloyd, of Erwn..wen
Harlech, MeriOnethshire. "To Professor Holloway. Sir,—l
ici thint my duty to inform you that for a long period I was-
afflicted with giddiness and swimming in the head, attended by.
tthrel:;y:lhf,..
loss of • appotite, and generally` Unpaired health. Every means
had failed to-give me relief, and at length it became so altif.r.
lug, that I was afraid of going out without an attendanutr.
phis,
Hughes, chemist, of Harlech, alvised me to
which I immediately did, and am happy to say gold
perfect ctire, and'restered me to health and le
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by all Druggists and at Professor Holloway il.
241,,Strand,1,0trion: effected a
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that bring down heaven
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from
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to,earth and Barry up -our thong!? .„
more
1) Vitt ily.4efitiid-
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Wont' lovely yopla.n6o • flower and an angel." Having
ii.eiriOiiteffing beHveen a flow
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present itself.—(Hear.) I sly, therefore. this 80,000 THE 'MILITIA BILL.
iniliti4rnen would bee tners, veluen'e addition to our
(From the Tones )
r ecTc.
ilzei
tat rzeb
„mfitzstii .i
Le
ss
tawnhciee,has it
cu eu,ssteuie.sus,!f andcol)
fipdrr, . tap::
int
military force t ten B,eoo men tel,lel to the regular
army.—(llear.) Fee (t-,e3n reasons lam of opiaion that .
this is a good raeasure—(flear)—aad, really, what is the existing Gevernuteut. They may, on exam-relation s
the difference between the present measure and the prove to be bad, but it is commonly felt that if we
measure which be late Government made a vital tines- give up our prejudice in their favour it can only be must
tion?—(Hear.) The characteristic of that measure was, reasons that will shake our confidence in their
author for
s.
that compulsory service was the rule, and voluntary Measures of national defence, it is evident, camp under
service the exception. What is the ceeractertstie ef :he this category. There is no such very wide difference
present measure? Net voluntary service is the rule and between the militia of Lord John Russell, that euggested
compulsory service the exception.—(Hear.) The ground, by Lord Pelmerston's amendment, and that of the pre-
therefore, on which the late Government goe., in op- sent Ministry. But as the Conservatives, with a re-
posing the, present measure is, that it is not compulsory merkable agreement of opinion on au exceedingly she
enough—(ll•nr)—that it re-lies, in the first instance, on street and shadowy point, rejected Lord John's measure,
voluntary enlistment; that it does not compel peop'e to the Whigs are quite as strongly -and quite as mysteri-
serve, and is not, therefore, a measure calculated to ously moved to throw out Mr. Walpote'a. The exact
meet the occasion. I have heard of a great many meet-
ingscharacter in different parts of the country, where objections
circumstance that when Mr. Rich, or any other Whig
were urged against the proposed militia; but the gene- Member-, ge,s op to criticise the Bill now in the House
ratify or these objections turned on the ballot. The No. he invariably goes off into a general dispseegement of
ble Lord says that his ballot diffsred toot the other militias of ell snipes and kind.:. A militia is item's-
ballot; but he has not explained in what instance it did.
—(Hear, heir, sarily a half and half measure; it is necessarily an at-
) Ilia ballot is accumulated en one class tempt to combine the conflicting conditions of peace and
of the community, whereas the ballot now proposed is war, of security and danger, of civil and military
net only deferred, but is spread over various ranks.— ,
'life. As such it must needs be ambiguous and geese
c(rflittn'airiteabieratr.b)alliTit,he Noble Lard says that is
wes a die
- tionahle in the strictest sense of those terms. It is in
the result of which would be all geed measures of this mixed and intermediate character that
wee, motel men, seell-ceeducted men, who would all the authority of Gevernments and the intervention of
return home properly to their families when dismissed, statesmen are most severely taxed, and so liable are
whereas the other ballot would produce only bad subjects. they in their nature to the most plausible objections,
—(Laughter,) I am, myself vire at 41. SS to conceive
in %mat respect the Noble Lord's ballot is more discri- that the mere fact of their being pulled to pieces, and
even covered with ridicule in the arena of the Legisla-
mirettive than tie), other; or how he can conceive that tore, nerd not sterile those who are prepared to support
a ballot, in its nature compulsory, and which only in teem. It would appear to be an impossibility for ques-
special instaorvis can be avoided by substitutiou, can bas thins of this sort to be decided upon their own merits.
more oppressive to the country !ban a
occurs Only in extreme cases, and these ballot which 'lle state of parties and the general aspect of the poli-
ses which •
ere not likely to acct at all.--(Bear, ca(Hear, hear.) It is said, twat world must be taken into consideration. Knowing,
as we do, that it is scarcely possible for the Bill now in
and, by the by, I must request the House to bear in
mind that argument of those who proposed the last the House to pass in anything like its original form, and
measure. that they were not altogether in harmony with seeing greater evils just now in its discussion than in its
each other, any more than the provisions, of the Bill postponement, we are prepared to rely for the present
with its title; for while, on the one hand,- the measure on our existing defences, with perhaps some additional
regular soldiers, and to put off for another year prepare•
announced by the First Minister of the Crown went, at times that, at best, are prospective. We are prepared
last, on the principle of allowing substitutes to serve, I
remember that the Right Hon, Gentleman the Secre- to de so.' because there is really no other alternative.
tary-et-War, and aferwards President of the Board of Not the least evil of the present discussion is the ir-
retrievable damage it is certain to ieflict on the fair
Control, argued at great length, and evidently with a
fame of British parties and statesmen: The moment
strong force of convicion, against substitutien at alit
the national defences are in the hands of a new and una
saying that substitutes were good for nothing, were popular Government, it is discovered for the first time by
fellows who would pocket the money for INnoining sub- the supporters of the lute Government that it would take
stitutes, and then, when they were reelly wanted w:eile
the cost to the metropelis,ading army
at least a month for an invading vanish, and become altogether ceic.mniratable. Now, I
I reached the suburbs, if they ever get so far, we could
to march frenn
have not such an opinion of Enilishmen,—(Cheers.) that by the time they had
our.Y muster a regular and well disciplined force of 200,000
believe you would not fln:i 80 000 men in' 'this con
who would take the bounty and then gl off to America. men, with set least a hundred field guns, and that though
—(Hear, her.) I may, in the simplicity 05 my nature
Weeks of ohfalacinbuaat
Pp
have obtained this vast army by and by
—(Loelaughter on both sides of the H„ese).....heee too appeals to selfish and mercenary motives, it enlistment,ould be
good an opinion of peopte—(Langhier)—but I do not be•
sioprepeotsasblibelemteonpfororcaurte,ewleslys
I tra numbertraining,
go!
an
re-
lieve, making those abatements welch must be always
made fir occasional defaulters in great bodies of the for our defence in the ease of irevasion, without the con-
people—there are defaulters even in thi • body, some- scription and ballot. Very Wl4l. WO are thankful for
times, when there is a call of the I.l.euse—(A laugh—l the first portion of these discoveries. It is no small
do not believe teat, if you proceed to raise men by vu-- relief to find legions of defenders start up ,
out
rom
!Literary enlistment for this army of reserve or militia—
of the holes arid corners of the land
call it whet you will—you will find the men whom you dockyards and decks, from police and preventivef sta-
have enrolled, who have taken the oath of ellsgiance, ttons, from amidst us and around us, on all aides, would absent themselves from the call of the ceutory in deriek Mu no sooner whistles than every rock, every
Ro-
th© hour of danger.—(Cheers.) I therefore look on bush,reveals an armed friend. But why is this disco-
this measure as one calculated to do essential goud to tared so late? Nay, how does it come to pass that while
the Stat,.—(llear, hear,) But, even if Ith ,ught there supporters and even members of the late Government are
were some pinions of the measure which mietat be im- assuring us that we have nothit g whatever to fear, and
proved, this would be no reason why.l should ref use it a that we are in fent a great military power, wanting only
second reading.—(flear, hear.) That would be a rea-
son why I should propose am„dments in committee—
(Herr, still recommends his own measure, and endeavours to
hear)—but it I believed that the defeneive force stronger and more real
persuade us that it was a much
of ihe country was inadequate—if I believed, as
we have
just heard, that occasions may occur in which additional measure than that before the House? Our readers will
forces would become necessary—it I believed that a has had the very natural effect of raising Lord Palmer-
militia force was a force desirable to have, and if I had ston once more into the position of arbiter of parties,
staked my political and legielative existence on a the censurer of faction, and the scourge of his old col-
measuparticular re to that purpose, I might think a leagues. How far the new honours of candour and im-
partiality sit gracefully on the brow of the veteran di-
respects than it at present was, but I should vote for
its second reading and pass it into Committee, in a piomatist, it is hardly for us to say; but there can be no friendly spirit, with a view to improve it—(Hear)—and doubt that a great opportunity has been presented to
him, and as little doubt that he tea* availed himself of it
I should not endeavour to throw the measure out, or,
to the bset possible effect Lord Palmerston halt, at all
especially in the existing state and condition of Perlia-
events, retorted en Lord John Russell the charge of gra-
tnent, postpone, at all events, the initiation of a wets- tuitous and malignant opposition.
sure which in its principle I had proved, by retiring The moat important result of this discussion so far
deemed to be of paramount
from office on the question. I
has been the revelation of our hidden strength, as con-
inaportance.—(Hear, hear.) Ido hope that the example teased by the supporters of the first Militia Bill of this
which has been sot by two members of the late Go-
vernment will not session. Mr. Rich, we can't help fearing, has greatly
fr.e followed by others—(Near, bear) exaggerated our present available means of defence, but who, having been even the most moderate estimate is rather reassuring,
I hope there are no other men,
prepared to vote for a measure involving mainly cow- especially when we are told by the hero of an actual
invasion, that it Id take even a small French de..
measure—(Hear, ear
pulsory service, will object to the measure before us be.
thin • • f
cause it is m only a voluntarya:ocalmilitia,b) tanchmen't ten days7ouland with every ing in its avour, —who, having been pr. pared to vote for
t i based on a re- a d twenty days more t ' reach town. The following
a very
now objet to this measure because it .3 . estimate of our present available force, made by -
competent and careful authority, may be applied to
late Government and that of the present check Mr. Rich's too flattering picture of our national
ueal.ure of the
if ,
guLr militia.—(.Hear) The difference between the
Government consists rather in name than in reality; strength :
there b,. any diff.,rence, it is in favour of this measure, Force of all ranks, infantry ... ..• 61,000
inasmuch as this measure is founded on voluntary en Pensioners ... ... ... ... ... 16,000
lieteseitt mainly, whereas the other it liable to the ob- Yeomanry and volunteers
... ... ... 14,000
, • • • •• ,
jection that its essential basis was that of compulsory Artillery 111.0 ••• .
• • 7 000
Marines ashore ... . . ... ... 5,000
service.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. MOFFATT moved the adjournment of the debate Coast Guard for land batteries ... ... 5,000
till Monday, and, Dockyard battalions 5 000
Atter a few words from Colonel SIBTHORP, the mo- Add to the regular troops and infantry . . 10,000
don was agreed to. Irish constabulary ... ... ... ... 10,0u0
The if Buse then went into Committee upon the Re- Aleatepolitan Police 7,000
Payment of Advances Acts Amendment (Ireland) Rill_
Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to without amendments.
On chance 3, which provided that the Treasury might
Cause errerloells charges to be corrected,
Mr. CLEM.EN I'S proposed an amendment, with the
view of eaubliag the Commissioners, if it should appear
*
to them expedient, to alter the number of years tor which
the annuities charged on the electoral divisions had been
fixed.

Totnl 140,000
The additiOn of 10,000 men to the infantry is thus
obtained. There are 58 regiments cf 850 men, and 9
regiments of 900 rank and file. These 67 regiments
might bo augmented to 1,000 men without one additional
offic-r, and the result would be as foLlows .-
53 regiments, 150 each
9 100 ;,

... 8.700
... 900

...
Additional rank and file ... 9,600
- - . Hence.there are 123 000 men, beyond dispute, mostly
good and trained soldiers. The 17,000 additional men,
consisting of police, are certainly available in case
of emergency, which is all to be provided
against at. present. Under these circumstances,
the public need not take is 'very much
to heart, if they find the Homo of Commons in too di•
tided and agitated a state to pass a Militia Bill this ses-
sion. Shoul:i it be suspended, a good commission of
milita9 men and civilians ought to be appointed to caw_
mine into and report upon the present state of the militia
law, upon the actual force in the country, and upon the
best and most economical means of national iisence from
foreign aggression.
could,ev without much
even now, unpro.
v
At all events, foreign countries will
n
learn that we are not ins i deFtitute.a state as to invite,
invasion; that, having re..pectable means of defence, we
tfoorb;e and
we that
can spare time to consider the best plans for future pro-
t
delay, put the Duke of Wellington at the head of a Bri-
tish torte larger than he won his greatest viwories with
ic cle idnu as we wdo uY
are are
alleged to
—larger, indeed, than any he ever eoramandtd.

RAILWAY 'll—+ ttk. MARKETS.
BKIS r • IL, APRIL 23.
STOCK EXCHANGE. —The improvement which has mania
fested itself' in .he share market tor the last few days was
well supported on the opening of 'Change this morning. The
transactions were as follow :—Great Western, 63—Vale of
Neath, 3% dis.—York and North Midland, 2G.
Lill ERPOOL, APRIL 23.
STOCK EXCiiRNGE.—The share market opened this
morning rather better than yesterday, but towards the
mid ,le of the day symptoms✓ of a decline and inactivity
displayed themselves. The purchase, however, by one or
two leading brokers of stills at full rates restored confidence,
and the market closes at its best with a fair amount of busi-
ness. The transactions were us follow :—Ambergate, Not-
titurham, Boston, and East Junction, 1% dis.—Caledonian,
2:17/B—Ditto, Greenock, guaranteed, 15— Chester and Holy-
head, Preference, guaranteed 51,E per cent., 17%—Easte.rn
Counties, 9 7-16—Edinburgh and Glasgow, 33—Lancashire
and Yorkshire, 74--Ditto, Fifths, 6 dis.—Liverpool, Crosby,
and Southport, 21%—London and North- Westsehrnli,elld4:Ained
—Ditto, New Quarters, 554 p.—Manchester,
69 _
% South-
Lincolnshire Preference, ',
—SouthEas —South-
Eastern
Staffordshire,and
tWANCH r.,61.h1t. '' . APRIL 23.
was very limited,
Dover,22lr-dl3Yis.Lrk;aunAteldhidßil:hredtnhisbM,i3d_Landia.d, 25
butar "3
tendency. Tee .
34 y
nd Lincolnshire, 8...,
as follow :—Manchester, Sheffield. &and, 6
%
daytransactions were
8 Caledonian,
idt
pricKesExhacy akazinGuisrzTrdhe business to
21.71/::ld_alsoauntdh.EWaisntedrEtermaerde,
Dl9_2
North
-Western,
—NEeawszeQrnuCoun-
ties, 9 7-16-- London and.
5% p.—Lancashire and Y014E1,11
a.
16—West Ridings, 4% dis.
12
-Midland,
—Blackburn (No. 1),
6 '4—Sheffield, Preference,.
6 per cet4., 3W3—Caledonian
pErenfteArenn4ceh)aB76.4% dis.—Ditto,