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Mr. H. DIXON observed that there were two
parties in the committee where there ought only to
be one—(hear, hear)—and it was desirable that tt e
feeling should find expression in some form. He
thought Mr. Martin had fairly put his case.
Daring an irregular discussion which followed,
Mr. PURNELL moved, as an amendment, "That
the committee accept the withdrawal by the execu-
tive committee of the report issued by the secre-

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of Londonderry were most prosperous. (Cheers.) They
were blessed with a good landlady—(hear, hear)—greatly
superior to others of their classes in Ireland that he could
name. Mr. Wilson, their agent, was pre-eminently a man
of his word, and while he watched with peculiar cara over
the interests of his employer, he had at the same time an
ear ready to hear and a heart and hand ready to redress a
grievance that even the humblest tenant on the estate
might labour under. (Hear, hear, and applause.) The
rev. gentleman concluded by proposing the health of the
chairman.
The toast was drunk in bumper glasses.

Arieb."

Mr. S. LUCAS could neither vote for the resolu-
tion nor the amendment, although heroes of opinion
that the report ought to be rejected. He Was not
prepared to pass an indirect vote of censure, and
cause the executive committee to resign.

The CHAIRMAN thanked the proposer of the toast and
the company for the very cordial manner in which his
health had been received. He proposed " The Visitors who
have honoured us with their presence." (Cheers.) _ _

Mr. D. COOPER expressed his opirien that there
ought not to b 3 two parties, as ths otject was a
common one. They would be laughed at if they
let these petty squabbles interfere liith their pro-

Capt WETHERED returned thanks, and in doing so said
—I feel not as a visitor at all at these proceedings. I am
inclined to regard this festivity with more of homely feel-
ings. So happy do all the tenants appear to be, that I con-
fess I feel a sort of desire to be living among you.

gress.
The CHAIRMAN then put Mr. Dixon's amend-
ment, when there appeared 27 for it and 26 against
it. Several gentlemen demanded ttat they should
divide, which was done, but the two parties had to
be taken before the actual numbers could be given,
when there appeared 33 for the amendment and 31
against.. It was consequently lost.
Mr. OTTLEY seconded Mr. Purners amendment.
Several gentlemen attempted to speak upon the
amendment, and a somewhat irregular discussion
arose, some contending that it was not in order to
speak upon the amendment, and others that it was
perfectly in order to do so.
Sir J. PAXTON—It cannot be pu; without allow-
ing a discussion upon it.
Ultimately the chairman put tin original resolu-
tion, " That the report read at the last meeting be
rejected," when the numbers being 24 for and 27
against, there were cries of "Divide, divide!' A
division accordingly took place, and after both sides
had been repeatedly counted,
The CHAIRMAN declared that there were 33 for it
and 32 against it, and consequently that the motion
was carried by a majority of one.
Mr. MARTIN, who said that he did so in no hostile
spirit to the movement, then proposed the latter
part of his resolution. It was desirable that inti-
mation should he given of what was proposed to be
done, and whether £5,000 or £50,000 was required.
Mr. BELL seconded the proposition.
Dr. MARSTON referred to what the executive com-
mittee had done, and said that the list of names was
a homage to Shakspeare.
Dr. VAUGHAN ventured to predict that, if the
meetings were to be of this complexion, their object
was gone. (Hear, hear.) If the resolution were
passed, the executive committee would resign, and
they never could get the confidence of the country
after that. (Hear.) They would be looked at as
a very Babel. Let them work together better for
the future.
Mr. MARTIN then withdrew his motion, in order
to further the common object amidst applause.
Dr. VAUGHAN suggested that the executive com-
mittee should appoint a certain number, and the
general committee a certain number, to draw up the
address. (Hear.)
Mr. H. Dizoal then made a statement as to the
progress of the business. Arrangements were being
made for holding a public meeting at the Mansion
House, et which the Lord Mayor would kindly take
the chair. He (Mr. Dixon), on behalf of himself
and colleagues, utterly disclaimed anything like
personal feeling in the matter. (Hear.) It was
thought desirable that the following committee
should be appointed to arrange the details of the
meeting : The Lord Chief Baron, Sir Hugh Cairns,
Sergeant Parry, Mr. Gruneisen, and Mr. Deputy
Rted. It was also recommended that the following
gentlemen should act as a committee for the purpose
of considering the best form of a monument, viz,,
Archbishop of York, Duke of Devonshire, Earl of
Clarendon, the Lord President of the Counc,l, Pre-
sident of the Society of Antiquarie, President of the
Academy,President of the Society of British Artists,
President of :he Architectural Museum, Master of
Trinity, Professor of Sculpture, Royal Academy,
David Roberts, Daniel Maclise, Clarkson Stanfield,
George Godwin. The council had also to propose
the following programme :—" The 330th birth-
day of Shakspeare shall be celebrated by
laying the first foundation-stone of a memorial
in London. The committee shall use its
influence to procure the observance of Sa-
turday, April 23, as a general holiday; and
they propose to offer a gold medal, silver medal, and
, bronze medal, for the best, second best, and

A VOlCE—There is not a doubt but that we are con-
tented. (Loud cheers.)
Capt. WETHERED—I believe so most positively. There
are men who assert that it is impossible for the pea-
santry to be contented and happy in our country under
existing circumstances. (No, no.) If such persons would
visit this part of the country, they would soon ascertain that
the contrary was the fact—(applause)—and that a state of
things exists which is alike creditable to the landowner and
the tenants. (Hear, hear.) I see you all here comfortable
and merry. I have no occasion to ask the question whether
you are prosperous or not. I might contrast this scene with
others that I have witnessed in the South of this country.
From what I know, I would say that the people of the
North are more energetic, =ore go 4-head, more progres-
sive, more easily induced to put desirable inventions and
discoveries to important uses—in short, they are more ready
to take advantage of what is for their own interests than are
the people of the South. (Hear.) Here you can introduce im-
provements among farmers with cowparative ease. And
here I wish to say that I don't agree with those who laud
one landlord or one agent to the depreciation of others.
(Hear, hear.) There are many difficulties that both land-
lords and agents have to encounter, which are happily un-
known perhaps in the North, and instead of which are to be
found blessings which you cannot fully comprehend. In some
places the facts are vastly different. I have lived a good deal
in the South. The people there are of a class different from
those found in the North. They are very difficult to deal
with. (Hear.) They have, comparatively speaking, no de-
sire to improve; they will not enter upon any new line of
improvement, I will give you an instance. I remember,
on one occasion during the famine, when the people had no
employment of their own, and no potatoes, nor was the seed
attainable, I was passing a hut, in the roof of which there
was a great hole. This was in a Southern district. There
was some straw lying about the place, and there was a little
garden greatly neglected, which was connected with the
house. Well, I was struck with the utterly neglected ap-
pearance of the place and the number of facilities that were
at hand for improving it; and I asked the roan who was
standing at the door, with a great big "lump of a son," as
the people there would have said, doing nothing, " Why
don't you do something to improve the condition of the
ground and the hut for your family ? New that you sr e
receiving relief without payment, you should do some-
thing." Oh, bedad, Sir, what would you have me to do?
he asked in reply. I told him. He refused to dig his
garden because the potatoes were gone; he refused to plant
anything else, because nothing but potatoes would do for
Ireland ; and he refused to mend his hut because, as he
said, that his father and grandfather lived in it, and he did
not want to have a better house than they had. (Hear, and
laughter.) After referring to several kindred matters, the
speaker concluded amid applause.
" The Ladies " succeeded on the list of toasts.
Dr. CASSIDY responded to the toast in a humorous
speech, which elicited much applause and laughter.
The company separated, cheering for their munificent
landlady.

third best poem on Shakspeare. The committee
proposed that the foundation stone be laid at noon ;
that an afternoon performance be given at Covent,
garden ; that a Shakspearian performance be given
at Drury-lane in the evening; and that a grand
soiree be held (by permission) in Westminster-hall,
at which Shakspearian books, prints, and othar
relics, may be exhibited." Members of the special
committee were by that fact members of the council.
Dr. Vaughan, Mr. Theo. Mar tin, Mr. Tom Taylor,
and Mr. Shirley Brooks, were then appointed by
the general committee to act with the executive
committee.
Upon the proposition of Mr. LUCAS, seconded by
Capt. W. KNOWLES, the programme was accepted.
It was understood, however, that, though the pro-
gramme had been accepted, the general committee
would not publish it or act upon it until the address
had been prepared.
Mr. MARTIN said, if it were otherwise, he would
not act.
The meeting then adjourned until Monday.