The Sun.
London, England, 1864-11-07 00:00:00

(RE'UTER'S k XPRESS.)

Nov. 6.
The following telegram and despatch have just
been publisted, here

TELEGRAM SENT TO lIIS EXCELLENCY GENERAL LA
MAIIMORA. BY THE ITALIAN MINISTER, wiTir THE
AUTHORIZATION OF THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT.

'' Paris, Nov. 1.

"My despatch of the 15th of September has given
rise to various interpretations, which have caused
the despatches of the Emperor's Minister for Foreign
Affairs. It follows from the loyal explanations which
have been exchanged between his Excellency and
myself that if the King's Government confines itself
before the Chamber within tho limits of my de.
spatch of the 15th of September, completed by my
despatch of the 30th of October, it will not be disc
avowed by the Imperial Government.

" NIG RA."

DESPATCII ADDRESSED TO HIS EXCELLENCY GENERAL

LA ISIARMORA, MINISTER FOR FOREICIN APIAIRS, BY

TRE ITALIAN MINISTER AT PARIS,

" M. le Mitostre,—lo accordance with the tele-
gram your Excellency did me the honour to for ward

upon the 28,h inst., to inform me on the cottmuni-

cation made tol•cu by the French Minister at Turin
upon the subject of my despatch of the 15h of Sep-
tember, I went yesterday to the Imperial Minister

'or Foreign Affairs, and had a long explanation

with him.

"His Excellency M. Drouyn de Lhuys adrnittcd
o me loyally that what was i❑ my despatch was
:rue. But he added that, from the French point

of view, the contents of my despatch ought to ho
completed in several points,
"I will sive your Excellency an account of the
observations of M. Drouyn de Lhuys and of my

replies :
" 1. The Imperial Minister for Foreign Affairs
thinks, first, th©t my despatch has not sufficiently
pointed out the difference existing between the pro-

jest of the Count de Cavour and the Convention.
I replied that the original project of the Count do
Cavour having been inserted textually in my de-

spatch, the difference between the two documents
must naturally be apparent upon reading them and

by comparieon:; that further I had pointcd out with

much exactness the modifications made in theorigi<
nal text, particularly that referring to the formation.

of the Pontificial army Gnd the far more important
change respecting the transfer of the seat of the

Italian Government. I have indicated with Ella*

cient clearness in my despatch that the fact of the
transfer of the capital has been considered by the
Imperial Government as a sine qua non condition of
the signing of the Convention.
"2. M. Drouyn de Lhuys thinks that to speck
of aspirations at ter having renounc,.d violent means

of going to Rome is to give riso to the supposition
among parties that underhand wnye (vot'es sot4Lr4
mines) are kept in reserve. I replied that nothing
in my despatch could give rise to such an intelprete-
tied--that we bud exp:Ls:ly ret,(rv(d the nu;br:rl
aspirations, but that we had at the &'.:me time st:t-
tied their ecurse and their otiet—that I shou!el
have considered it an insult to my Government to
admit even for a single instant the necessity of en
e 7 planation in this rcspcct. There is nothing in
common between th? underhand ways of which M.
Drouyn de Lhuys rpeaks ocd the moral forces of
eiviliz :lion and progress to which we r.ppeol for
obtaining a reconciliation between Italy and the

Papacy.
" 3. M. lirouyn do Lhuys has called attention to
the fact that it was declared upon both sides at tLe
conferences that no previous arrangement aught to
be made for the case in which, notwithstanding tho
legal execution of the Convention on the part cf
Italy and France, the Pontifical Government might
no longer be able to subsist by itself, and would
render its existence impossible; that this eventum
ality would have constituted a new situation indc%
pendent of the Convention and beyond the antici-
pations of the contracting parties. The two Gam
vernments reserved to themselves, in the event, of
this case occurring, full liberty of action upon
either side.

"This reservation mentioned by his Excellency
is perfectly correct, and I took care to communi4
cate it at the proper time to the King's Govern.
meat. But I have not considered that I was bound
to repeat it in a despatch destined for publicity, for
two reasons. In the first place, the Plenipoten-
tiaries having admitted that they could not, and
ought not to, preoccupy themselves with an even-
tuality of this nature, equal reason would seem to
Exist for my adopting the same course in my des-
patch ; in the second place, I felt a repugnance to
bring under public discussion the prospect of the fall
of the Pontifical Government by its own fault and
importance. This eventuality is certainly possible,
but, if we must now look future eventualities in the
face, we should prefer to rest our ideas upon that of
a possible reconciliation between the Papacy and
Italy. I ought to add, further, that M. Drouyn de
Lhuys, in making this remark, did not intend to
complain that it had not been explained in my des-
patch of the 16th of September. His Excellency
told me that he has rather been desirous of giving
some kind of reply to the journals which have coma
mented upon that document. M. Drouyn de Lhuys
entirely partakes our opinion upon the propriety of
not entering into a discussion as to a future even.
tuality, hich the contracting parties had not to
take into consideration.
" Lastly, M. Drouyn de Lhuys would have wished
my despatch to have contained the explanation of
what we understand by national aspirations. I replied
to his Excellency that it did contain that explana-
tion, and that I had taken care to point out recont
ciliation between Italy and the Papacy upon tho
principle of a free Church in a free State as the
object of our aspirations. The reserve of there
aspirations having been made expressly and in the
terms which I textually quoted, I had nothing to
add upon this subject.
" You will see from what I have explained to
you, M. 10 Ministre, that even after the remarks
of the hon. Imperial, Minister for Foreign Aff-irs,
the contents of my despatch remain unchanged.
Your Excellency will no doubt, equally with my
self, take the fullest account of M. Drouyn de
Lhuys' observations, as I have had the honour to
explain them to you. But Ido not think them of
a nature to invalidate what I have conscientiously
stated in my report, which I maintain in its in,/

tegrity.
"'That which I have just written is not intended
to be published. But if the French Government
should think fit to publish the Notes which have
been lately comtuuniatted to you by the Minister
of France, I request your Ex.celleucy to give equal
pubdcity to this despatch.
44 Receive the assurances, &c.,
" NIGRA."

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