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M. Dated the 12th day of February, 18MARSHALL, Chief Castuor.
52.

SAN KING DETAETBILN T

Proprietors 'capital 14,553,000
tt,si ••••• • • • • • 3,341,559
Public deposits (in-
clading Exchequer,
Commissioners 01
National Debt, :cm'.
ags-bank s, and Di.
tidend accouni,s).- 5,2(3,972
Other deposits • • • • •• 12,12i4.6:18
seven day and other
.... 1,219,028

Government eecurt•
ties (including Dead

Weight Annuity).. 13,420,923
Other securities 11,181.0il
Notes ..... •• • 11,364 Ofr 0
Gold and silver cOin• 6,9,603

.C 36,636,497

£36,536,497
MARSHALL. Chief Castner
1852.

Dated the 12th day cu February,

IMPERIAL PARLIA-MENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS. Feb. 12.
The LORD A EANCELLOR to,,k his beat On the WOO,
sack er Five o'ci.elt.

IMPORTATION OF ARMS IN THE CAPE
COLONY.

The E.trl of M ALM. ESBUItY gave notice that he
,tiouki to morrow a.,f.k ecriain Te•stions relative to the
importation ()farms :nri atnnitiotlion to the Cape Colony.
PATENT LAW AMENDMENT.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petite's) from Black-
burn, praying for an amendment in the Patent Law„ ;
also a petitiou from Brighton, praying for the compul-
sory eetranchisement of copy holds.
COMMON LAW PROCEDURE ACT.
Lord LYNDHURST begged to put a question to the
Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, whether he
would have any objection to refer the Bill now on
their Lordships' table with regard to common
law procedure to a Select Committee, as it contained
several nice points which could scarcely be discussed in
a Committee of the full House. With regard to the
table of fees, he should propose that they be retained in
the Bill, and then, following the usual custom with re-
gard to money clauses, be struck out on the third read-
ing, in order that the other House might have an op-
portunity of seeing what was the opinion of the House
on that subject.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he should have no
objection to the course recommended by his Noble and
Learned Friend, and he should be obliged fur any
suggestions which might be offered. At the present
moment he was not prepared to frame a table of fees
without having taken the opinion of those who were
most conversant with the subject..
Lord LYNDHURST said the table of' fees formed a
part of the original report. He wished, in addition, to
ask the Noble Lord whether the Court of Chancery Bill
was in such a state of preparation as to be ready to be
laid on the table of the House of Commons on Monday
night, as had been announced?
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that that an-
nouncement must have been given under a mistake,
because the Bill was very far from being in such a state
of preparation as to be brought forward at that time.
He could assure the Noble and Learned Lord that every
possible means of expediting the measure shoula be used.
Lord CAMPBELL expressed his earnest desire, as
Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Queen's Bench, that
the Bill for the amendment of common law procedure
would be carried forward with as great speed as pus-
ible. It effected a greater change in the mode of pro-
c dare at common law than had ever been contemplated
since the reign of Elward I.; and tie was sure it would
confer the most ies portent benefits on the suitors.
Lord LYNDi IURST thought it would be the most
convenient course to refer the Bill toa Select Committee,
Ahem the most deliberate consideration could be given
to the eueject.
The LORD CHANCELLOR complained that these
reiterated attempts to anticipate the diseus,ion on the
yet auburn Bill for the reform of the Court of Chau
eery were as inconvenient as they were irregular. Ir
such discussions were to be continued, much time would
ha loot without advantage to their Lordships. and with-
out benefit to the public. When a superior judge was
es be ceded upon to do for 6,0001. a year what
tne Me-ter heo Beret, fore done for les,,
,and when
olhordittate effluent were to be called upon to do
what had hitherto been done by the Masters themselves,
e might be permitted to ask ter time to enable him to
make up his mind. It his Noble and Learned Friend
wad made up his mind on the point, so soon atter the
iepearatice of the report, it might be owing to his
Noble aid Learned Friend having greater facilities fur
nsking up nisi mind than he had. his (the Lord Chau-
Aloe's) facilities might not be so great as those of his
Noble and Learned Fri, ne, but his responsibilities were
greater. He repeated that he bad not mane up his
mind on the subject of the Masters office; on the con-
',nay, not having anticiptved that the abolition of the
Vlasters'-offiee would be proposed, he had prepared to
fill up a vacadcy whiCh had occurred. He was then
,sked, " Are you aware that the Commissioners intend
,o ab lish the r ifiue?" To this he replied that he was
lit)t. He had then applied to the Commissieners for in-
formation on the point, and the Commissioners then told
fie, that the abolition of the office was then under con-
ederation. He required a morn distinct and definite
answer. Ha required that a meeting of the Ctnmie-
stoners should be cenvened; and, atter they had aiet, he
.-000ived this answer to his question, namely, that they
intended to abolish the Misters'-office, and in conse-
queece be did not fill up the office. When the report of
• he Commissioners appeared, about ten days ago, he im-
mediately applied his best attention to it; but he had
not made up his mind to carry all the details of it into
effect. It was, he admitted, a most valuable report, and
would be productive ref great public advantage. Whether
snose who almost stifled that report with their commen-
eations were prepared to go the whole length of it he
could not tell, but he had not yet made up his mind fur
the abolition of the Masters'-office, whatever he might
.lo after a minute and careful perusal of the report. He
had not yet made up his mind, he repeated it, either one
way or the other.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM was saying a few words on the
point of order, which were nut heard in the gallery,
when he was suddenly interrupted by
Lord BROUGHAM, who contended that nobody was
actors out of artier than his Nuble Friend at that very
minute. He had often heard questions put ,Ind answered
both in that and the other House of Parliament; but a
plainer question than that put to his Noble and Learned
Friend on the Woolsack by his Noble and Learned
Friend near him never had been put, and a more unsa-
isfactory answer never had been given. That answer
was given with so many "ifs" and with so many
s, un-
tile," and with so many qualifications, that he defied any
man to know the result of it. What were they to con-
jecture to be his Noble and Learned Friend's meaning
when he said, that when he had time to peruse and con-
sider the report he might be of the same opinion with
he Commissioners, and if he were, then he would adopt
their recommendations? He did not complain of hi.
Noble and Learned Friend tur having given this answt r,
which was uo answer at all, if he were iu this entire state
,f thickest darkness—for, until light broke upon him, it
was impose; ble for him to give any other answer than
hat which he had just given. But, undt r such
circumstances, he (Lord Brougham) felt utter disap
ponatment and dismay. When he found in the other
House of Parliament a measure was to be submitted
0 public censideration, foundetima the report of the Cote-
edesioners, and not opposed to it, and when he also found
.hat his Noble arid Learned Friend was not intending to
leave out of it one of the most important recenemetida-
'ions of that report,—which he almost stifled with his
a Inmendations, theugh he dill red from points of detail
!ii it,—surely he (Lord Breuehani) had a right to expect
'fiat a measure of Chancery reform was not only in con-
templation, but was also actually prepared, in compli-
ance with the gracious speech from the Throne, I,
would appear that all this expectation had arisen from
the accidental circumstance that there was not a good
enderotauding between the Premier and his Lerd Chan-
cellor. The notice of motion was a mistake on the part
it Lord John Ressell; but what did this prove, except
het the tin& ratauding between them was, like teat of
Darby end Joao, of an ueststistactory nature? After
indulging in this vein of ridicule for some time longer,
tee Noble and Lsarued Lord concluded by declaring
ir ter the answer of the Lord Chancellor, his hopes
ef Chancery reform were entirely dashed to the ground.
The LORD CHANCELLOR reminded the House
that, at the commencement of the session, his Noble and
Learned Friend had complained that their Lordship,
had but li tle to do. From the prospeot which they now
had fief ire them, he thought that their Lordship. might
now rlischarge their minds from that misapprehension.
For his Noble and Learned Friend, who had just sat
down, even before a measure, which was only
in
eoantemelation, had been introduced into Parliament—tar
pur-
pose which could lead to no useful result,
and which he
nevertheless followed up with speech es after speeches,
without any advantage to the country—had well con-
trived to misunderstand the few words whichheuttehad
uttered
in way of answer respecting that measure, and
complained that he (the
Bill, ozhcliehwod
Chancellor)hi w
requireas not dis-
posed to bring in a
amend-
ment every year—(Cries of "tiear2e—h
year afterandtosubstyaiteuter
an
for an old system a new code, w
would require to be altered d improved.—(Hear, and
a laugh.) And all this was, because
first, a report had
been presented not more than ten days ago, reversingto the entire extent the whole system of proceedings in
Chancery, and, next, because he had not made himself
master of that report, involved as he was in other
duties, both in that theHouseandthati
Ct.ouhret ohfaCdhdaenvcoetreyd,
a report,
too, so voluminous,
toitall his time, both day and night, since
its appearance, he would not have had more than suffi.
dent time to appreciate its merits. Was it • then, fair
or just to him
pars easily that these two Noble and
Learned Lords should be indulged nightly in the deli-
very of these speeches, or rather attacks ugainst him?
—(Hear, hear.) He asked their Lordships to judg ewh4t
motives induc,d these Noble and Learned Lords
put
these questions to him night after night. If their Lord-
shipsut
could not find any ground of public importance for
them, he should like to know what other ground could
be found for them. He hoped that he was i
wanting
not an candour; but if a quesdon was put to him whennh
in
he
had had no time for refiectiag upon it—as Loth the
Noble and Learned Lords well knew that in this in-
stance be had not, whatever they might say to the con-
trary—it was uujust to him individually, and he sub-
mitted to their Lordships whether it was fitting and
proper that his Noble Friends should tbus attack him
eight after night. He bad considered that part of tbe re-
port which related to the abolition of the Masters office.
He was not satisfied as to the mode in which their places
were to be supplied—he could not say that he knew of any
plan by which the object of the Commissioners could be
litNelfflilt94 with minutogg to Ow pliPlio• PT? doubt .