The National Register.
London, England, 1815-06-04 00:00:00

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for he telt it was going backward. He bad tOrmerly considered the
principle as admitted, and in a session or two he had expected to
vitoe.s the con,toomatiou of the measure ; this expectation had
vanished. He trit,ted he should see the day when the Catholics,
conducted by their present or oilier leaders, would see their way
back to that maim, who had proved so powerful an advocate : then
lie should again be animated with sonic hope for their cause. He
saw no reasons why the Catholics should not accept the Bill of
18)1

Mr. W. I'ole, Mr. W. Elliott, Sir N. Colthurst, and Mr. Ilus-
wile for going into the Committee.
-:Ir. GRATTAN said, when the Petitioners desired emancipation
ithout condition, they desire IWO 1111LgS abstuel in plincip:e ; iu
the tir.,t in.tanee, they required emancipation, and secondly, eman-
cipation without condition, which rendered it impossible they conld
succeed. It %%mild be flattering the Catholic Body to say they
could have every thing—to tell them all their claims would be
granted would deceive them, because he knew they would not
Lave cry thing. It was Ilk intention to support the Catholic
question with desperate fidelity ; in other words, ro tar as there
was the sltglitest hope of success ; but be was persuaded that unless
the Roman Catholics adopt a spirit of conciliation, noless they
come as persons at Plebe(' to the pi ineiple-. at the Constitution, they
cannot succeed. it their petition dial not succeed, it was not owing
to the want of candour an the pint of any Member in that House.
but the want of pludenne wad di,crelimi on the part of some Ca•
/holies. With those sentiments he should sit flow'', giving his snte
for the question, though he did not pledge himself to support the
Resolutions.
The question was then loudly called for, and the House divided
on theßesoln tnin for going it.to a Committee. The unnibeis were--
For the Resolution, 147—;Against it, 'P.2B ity,
The Resolution was accoidiligly negatived, and at one o'clock
the Muse adjourned.

which, from'cei rain eiremnstances had arisen, into et
blame would attach to the Prince Regent. An art.
been entered into vt ith the Crown. by which a fixed
signed for the exnences of the Crown. (Here the N:
about to read a document in elucldatiOn of the subjec'
objected to by Mi. Tierney, and caned a long idle,
point of order, but was terminated by Lord ('astleic,
state the result only, and not the paper itself ) T
proceeded to state the workings of the arrangement
come to On the accession of his present Nlajesty to th
Ordinaries and Extraortlinalies of the Civil List, dm
had :.mounted to 5 i,ftr.3,0001.; but it' the House were
revenue of George 11. and calculate it for a similie
would find that it %wild amount to 67,499,0001. col
the new al rangement, a saving had :teemed to
15,t176.0011. notwithstanding the Royal Family wei
Otis than in the former reign. There had been au at
in 1804, of 8:2,000I. making to 1814, a sum of 8‘20,000i
thrown upon the Consolidated Fund of 5,115,0001.
latter sum from the 15.876,0001 it would leave a ci
1o,7.:6,00o1.; being a saving of that sum to the emir
arrangement. The whole of the grants for the Civi
Pailiamehi in addition, were a21:3,0001. of which set
had paid out of the Moils of the Admiralty, 1,92.`'
inclit had, ill fact, he(n only called upon to give 1,291
the general and extraordinary expenditure of the Ci
ing stated :hese general facts, le should now notice
the Noble land in respect to infraction of the Act
by misapplying the vote of 100,0001. which the Righ
man (Mr. Tierney) had chosen to denominate as outfit
(Lord Castlereagh) maintained the money was voted
as well as perspectively. and hoped the House wow
was the same thing whether this sum of 100,0001
to the liquidation of his Royal Highness's debts; or
of his Household. lie contended that. the Regent,

meat, had not only behaved with great justice, but wi
genre and liberality to the Public ; awl he trusted the
not indulge that specie's of calumny, %%Inch tell so 1.e.:,
sons of his Royal Highness's lank; and that they we
bargain had been favourable to the public.
Mr. Ti N LA' contended the House owed it to
well as to themselves, to go into the Committee ; f.
presentairccared to be no less than 100,0001. out
repeated many of the arguments di livered On pre.
when investigating the expenditure of the Civil Li
necessity of a Committee, and urged the suspicion
iii the public iniud,"if the motion was not agreed to.
After a long debate, which continued till a very
motion of ll,:vrd Althrop was negatived by 225. against
The CitaNc:•LLon of the EXCHEQUER having mo.
House resolve itself into a Committee of Ways and Mr
Sir CHAIILFS NloNcx enquired whether the Rigi
intended to bring on that pail of the shedule which
new tax on adveitiements?

The CIRANCILI.OIt OF THE EXCHEQUER stated,
conferences with several persons mho appeared to
sense of those individuals who were more immediate'
this measure, and an arrangement had been agreed
suppoed to meet the views of both parties. The gi
this arrangement was, that the progressive duty on
should be abandoned, and that in lieu of inhere situ
a common duty of an additional sixpence, making,
Ss. (id.; and also an additional duty of an balfpentr

Sir eitAnLEs MoNcx conceived that a new quests,
this plan for transposing the new duties on advert
papers. It was generally considered that the univer
of knowledge produced by the daily journals, and
pithlications, was one of the most extensive and subs
tages resulting from the libel-1y of the pres,. The Hh
()light to determine whether it might not be a duty the
w hose interests were most concerned, to st
goveinment and the editors of newspapers, who lie
apprehend might coincide in an arrangement conven
hot by no means equally beneficial to the public. it
was very averse to seeing the necessities of the sta'
means which seemed to tend to the stir pression of
illation. Ihe ItiAt lion. Gentleman, he hoped, would
no objection to postpone the resolution for the present
The CHANCELLOR OF THE ExcuzetrEn assented
the Hon. Butoutt.—Adjourued.