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it appeared the only perstowtote beepterent,slgoo.
wives! They were, in fact. to sit in judignent on
their own awe. A more eweepins proposition than
this was never introduced in one assenshly;—and it
would toot be brought forward. nor'Astetviel la, in
any other society. The ItlohleNiecouni had entreu
ed into a considerable length of detail, with goklt
to the Petitions. Bat 'the queltiop:iessi . w,
whether the alleptirtna ettutnitnll in lb* 1 4-
0.
Along Fete pile or not. Th,tt opoi .11* , . ,w
she Committee. Thome persons cl .Ilowsthap
had .been arrested illegally--and that; *WWI* thee
coullisennent. they hail been ill Irvin"( i 'freer it dire
the dote of the Manse to direct that their buttemente'
should he examined. If persons were Committed,
not on oath, by the Ndhle -Viorount, wrs,.be xso-
titled to indemnity .for push impetteatee eitturtict ?
Nllhere von thitt.fect to he one_ripn4,.? 14rgniplir
*the Committee then *Wing. Nothirieibercireltalleo
*once,. no permit dared lobe entausitterieeneeptain
ooth ;
,on Magistrate could make oat • storpitil.
mint, *it hoot.that forollseeisoftwenxizZiettetll4
X)id; then. the auseemilisr fttfeeV_ . . ' wikit
give this eatteutdmory-ssioser I irk treepties‘ sthat
it diel.not—andolsesefore, inquiry ea thir point ,wek
siecewery. in opposing tbeeginsidentlitio ist 'them
retitintn. would the 'Noble Ifistirotntwty„thatt It
was qnite.clerr to him that .14 jweota.pgl got ilm.
a-eiored him) Mehtign usitbiog of.tlw.permatathe •
'had petitioned. --fillets?. Agar, dillmer•tho atiolisteriel
heisekes. ) —They might •be soma. dfbedetrivieter.
_(hese.)—Witlt thet he hattfiblilittlftattt . *The
n
9isillio.wa!, ljedthose permaekma aping 4•01
If they refused an inquiry onthis sultjitet, they came
to this—they told the country, isidirtetly..that they
had appointed a Committee, nut for the purpose of
fair ingniry, but to white-waah their Contlict.--7
.44eise. heee.)-!-rie had erten. he.ard tkiii.persons
reprobates!. who attempted .to become initgei in
their own cause. But Ministers went -farther.
They. the accused parties, were not only judger,
hut they were Also witnesses. This was a ononstrOus
impropriety—and, to counteract it, he Would ,give
his moat hearty assent to the motion.
Earl ;11cenuasc was of opinion, .that the Morse
would he deporting from its usual course. if this
motion were agreed to. The Committee, now sit.
tong. had authority to move.forifresh informatioo, if
they cogiceived it to he necessary. And, he de-
manded, was it fair in these who knew .00t.what
documents were .before the .couvrittee, to move
that the.. Petiroeschould.be fermwded to them
fur their instructs ? As to the Committee be..
jog formed, for the purpose of resisting Mi.
'Miters to carry a Bill of 'lndemnity. the state-
ment could ant be .supported fur A mensent.
—The 'Report of that. Committee, on which the
Bill of ludeinisity must depend, would *peek
for itself. If. when that Bryon were made,
..
it appeared that a Bill of lisifeloyity.was not call.
ail for. or was notch-served.. the.lioshie would teject
jt. The Noble Earl (Contorting') had wsarmed,
that the information laid. before the.Comensitwe was
lint 1. uflieu.sst to mutton*, a Bill of 'lndemnity. If
that were the fact, the Rouses could rehire to peso
such al MIL The utifeent practice of.111:11opse
had bleat followed oss. dais occariam--aod though
I.e ousas:t not in .my. that, under pertialler sir-
. ominous-es, it ought not to he departed Pliant—
yet this he would sower, that • their Lionholps
ought to be particislerly eaulioes An Alloonsag
any deviation from their ordinary :inks. On
former occasions, no such sitenopt. no .such
imposition, hail been made. Noble 'Lords said.
they knew nothing of those who signed the 'Ps--
minim—they could not speek to the character
of the. persists who snide the allegations. Was that
a reason for initoslucing them ? If Noble. Lords
li.il examined the statements contained in - the
Petitions. and were improved with their truth.
that would bee ground for presieug• the,motims—
But in the absence of that coorwliou be. could
POP ISO reams whatever far imipporting. such o pears-
'Moo. The matter. Drew Peritionrmight be cog?*
tiered as dividing itselfinto two heads: .FirstA it ups
complained that the Petitioners.were illegal y
,teben
up—sad next. that they were severele treeirtd. Awls
on these grounds, • it wanAssetted that :en inquiry
ought to be mode. Now. with respect' to the harsh
moaner in which individnala were mit', to harebeeu
*rested, be should only °home, throt the itAnotled
.8111 of loileneity would be very tEiresaotrrrose any
that was ever before parsed. if a clause.werwiallm-
doer! in it to prevent those vital coneigleeed ilieut-
'tires figgtiered• from having recourse to those re-
.medies which. by law, were open to them. ;So for
tittle Petitions wool" be 'complied ,wide-.for AO
clause would be propmed• that could .imerfore..with
their right of appealing to law, if it were found ne-
cessary. Now, with respect to the Petitinetne hey-.
nig been impropetly messed, 'ilk were referred to
a Committee to. ingoriee into that poiots what-were
they to ezateine ? i Were. they to inquire whether
those permits had brew guilty or not P If ties' were
the care, he would oak how, the Committee war to
proceed ? The person, deducing themselves to be
innocent must bring forward all the proof in their
power to substantiate. their innocence; whilettdi-
Misters, on the other hand. must introduce all. Ilse
evidence they could (not only the information ori-
ginally given, but every fact subsequently dis-
closed). in order to phew their guilt. In other,
word*, the Committee most try those persona,.
and that, too, without tbs. power of administer-
ing an oath. What would the. tonsequence be ?
Would any man saty.- that. -if one of • 'those in- '
divilluals were foaled innocents his original com-
mitment on a charge of high treason Must. theve-;
fore, he a breach of taw ? • Might not circsomodiscee
fully warrant that commitment ? But. taking that
reverse—supposing that the indrvidual !masted to
he guilty, was he to be set at liberty, or was he tat
he sent down to another trial. having °Maims) a
full knowledge of every point in his favonr, and of
every circumstance that wade against him ?.-/Hear,
Agar. 1-4 J nder all the, oircopontarsces stets. if the
constant practice of the Moose had.ilmenadintetly
the reverse of what it reallpwelk he could ePP,e
.
referring those Petitions to a Committee.
•
The Marquis knows
or LawsDoww wished to &nowt
whether.' if aoy indillidull. Member .1: the 01191.
tnittee moved that papers .be caressed to.ite.the
Nonse was prevented, by any form.' fees accodiug
to that motion ?
The Earl of Lrrsapoot. said. the Committee
must move. by their Chairman,, es a body. or -not
it all. The Noble, Earl's rootioti.oppnred to bin
to be quite .prensetuee--becatue •it was competent
fur the Committee, if it were the fact, to oatb.ibot,

fo•factocr •
it irai:jilap
Ott ke.sp
. ~to indnce ilie to mine
down to their Lordships, and way, that the esidence
eta imidficietar P44AL64. &where, they taut have
fifth documents laid r -
Haiiscanie weave Of

became it prevented in/idiome statements, i.ith.re-
epee to particular persons, which aught always to
be .avoided.—,(firer, .hair.)-41e was decidedly of
Opinion, that it wit not proper that all persons--
that individuate of every shade of political opinion
—should be placed.in situations where they might
become acquainted with .the secret istf,orinetion of
Government; and know all the green& on which
Minidees felt it their duty to act. The Noble
Lords oppositeilied arraigned, and might arraign,
idiatme,....-but. theirs was not the tribuivil to which
he would bow. Why.rellectione had been casino the
Committeethe could not eouceive—.fir thaw Noble
Lamle, of wheat it was compaueddied as greet ca in.
Iciest in the welfare mat piespeaty of. the country...
the iodividuale who attaeled thirty 'With re4ect
to the Petitions tlioniselies. . he libould say very
little—for what had been offered .to the Mouse by
his /Noble Friend appeared to be peke sallkieet.
They did. as had beep obaerirecif touch upset two
pointsrserst, thetPletitimseis complained that they
Ind been: ineptly arrested and centlinedisoul newt,
that Way, had bees harshly and crueller tibetird while
in cesillnemeot. 'With respect to the lain charge, he
amid only repeat whet his•Nable Friend. hod stated,
that:the Bill of Indemnity would be eery diliferent
indeed . from soy ever, before introduced, if it woes.
eel ',Ministers. Magistrate., gaoler., or any deter*.
ties. of persons., from the punishment they would be
bolds to, if they had committed any criosimil breach
of . the. hut. i r that emcee ground of complaint, It
certainly was not a point at Mane betneen•sleree.
With "epee. to . the Petitioners Items; beMs;ints
golly arrested. and•diaaharged without havingrbeik'
brought to trial, .that wes.a matter on whisk she
Causraitteet must decide.. The .11lottla illael (Gros-
tenor) who exclaimed so loudly moan* the teidwet
of Illiasisters, laud himself,.. &mew occasions. voted
for the suepension of the Habeas Corpus Act.-
-.(Heirr, hear)—lie saw the neetraity of the
measure, furl Vaal for that which he now re-
probated—the intimating to. the ,IE nem tive. Govern-
ment the power of taking up and detaining per-
sons etespected of treasonable designs. It was
made a 'object of great complaist, ghat all she per.
sons arrested were not brought to trial. . But this
was a futile temple.. ; for, if every person ar-
tressed .were brought to trial,. there *mild he so ne-
cessity for the Suspension Act. As to the pro-
venly of. passing it,. that was a.qiestion open to
diecomsioin—cunt , he would be ready to argue it,
emlwilevevit came regularly before the lieuse.
Earl Gaoseanoa. in eirphinatioti, said.. that,
whin he voted for the Saspenainu of the Habeas
Corpus Act. the eireurpstances wire
.widely 'diger-
eut Born thoet ma eibisitthe late momore wire found-
ed. , With . Nitwit, fat. the PetitiouN. they were not
so destitute ottetetter of- fact. as, the Noble. Earl
seemed iti.stippose. - One Petitioner stated that he
eaccfregged from-Manchester to London, without
Nose. mid he cilled-for trial. 'This, he conceiv-
ed. was • matter of fact, that called for examination.
• Loki • ffeit.t.ssou sold, that, cunsidrnug this to
ben most important question—considering it as a
branch of the great question it issue between the
Ministers and the people—he should be sorry to
quit the House without delivering his sentiments on
it. The NoblrEart had made severul obiervatimis
on the envoi...ince of 'hie Noble • Friend (Earl
Grosvenor) having. on former oecasiona, voted for
the suspension of the . Hisheits Corpus Act. Ile
hoped those observations would sink deep iu the
mind Of his Noble • Friend—he hoped they would
make a deep impression on the couestry—as they
tended to shay the tetterqsenee of asepoinling, even
fora moment.. the great preffetfittee of our liberties.
Fort it would be Met ;that he who once consented
to such a suspensiou. was afterwardethought to be
unlit to•drlivee hie judgment on a similar measure,
howeverdelferent theeireamstances might be under
which it wee proposed.
.0 Before thiseight it never
NA. bees *lilted. Ilea. when ParliaMent was in-
tamed to ',Depend the Habeas Corpus. Act. it was
.she r! for the Purpose of imprisoning 'nen. with-
out any intention of bringing them to trial.--.
I•Bettlbs thy. Noble Earl .and was the case in the
• jam inetince. • The Noble Earl observed, when it
rine tented that persons were takes up under thus
bilsigiusisik Act, asiddischorged without trial. that
Web was ever the case when the Mabee, Corpsi
'Abe was in abeyance. He (Lard Hittleall) was nor(
eiviesi.d to the ihoesesion of thicetehject--and h
I had beard ir doctrine directly the eseunery, elelivir4
ed by the Noble Lewd.. the Woolarek. ) He hal
• fareiterltenasedi that, es under the,Baspensime Acti
perm& ciald only be attested on oath—anal those •
0..804 i MA' the inteatese of. bsio4c brought, to trial
But, lest the source of information should h
° betrayed, it was:jsraisero Stitt they should not
'might ..to trial , on .the mouleat--beca woe. ' i
-Ilan teem the ease. ' it would • inutile atlwr traitor*
lb tilespei" • This ens tite.argument when a emit
> pension +eche. Habeas Corolla Act was propined ;
bat When that sempensiouwee nit more—wlwu..after
• year of misery (for it was a state of unmet. where

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5m
ble Viscount .FtispldcrPlloo. or ,einoitlet.st4 qi,iare•
jtreresiteir his Zlobli rrieitttit tilveci.vtgos.heplid.
tint to call on theliftesse ,t? tier thit,PktilinnA to
the Committee was a sleeping data*. The we*:
tion.was one .that .11cuteeded thoxbole.ottiotion or
iho.tioogo. sod. es a c°Mleitßit,loo .sittititrici in-
lithe into the state of the nation. And the grymnsti on
Which Ministers had acted. he isatarelle eisenifiette.,
ceived that the Pendant' ought to Pe refereed to it.
This proposition was met by a reference to ii point
erform-bat every ward which was urged with re-
spect to that poiot.of form, was, ankstmotieey. an
Utillt 01 ANON! -ii he he!'
.*'',oollljiiiieer Ike Pr!' is
hr mode of reirissing the Cominittle:. The 'Noble
Eer.l-441atated„thotir would cat -Jamie ke.lfW
19; a.tribunal composed of"goble Liicis taken from
that side of the H005e.,He.(1.971 H.) conceived the
Noble Earl had depleted from has usual courtesy. in
nta k Mg, thia personal Amnon ion. Re stotild any to
the Noble Earl. that, if impotent, he would not wish
him to be his Judge unless the whole of the case
were hams him'-.ond,: on the other hand; if he
went ,a guilty titan,
,he should ,not abject to .his
us judgment on him. if. es rig.. the mode
.by Ministers, he bad the arrangement of
the case, the selection of evidence; and his favouring
enter, in the appointment of the other Judges.
Moisters had, last Session. hurried on the Save.-
siou Ad. When the StvrltrY of a Society in :I•A'''
dins petitioned the
.11quae,_ offering to prove that
certain allegations contained In die Report of the
Secret Committee were trot founded 'in fact, they
refused to entertain it-they amid no time was to be
losit:-and declared that, independent of that par-
ticular imint, there was suilicient ground to au-
thorise the suspension. He protestid then, and he
protested now, against nick an arbitrary systent.
*perry was loudly rolled for--and he would not
easseent that it should he a partial one--en investi-
gation. in which the old maxim of earn alterina
portent, was entirely laid aside.-(Ater. Atter.)
He wished to know what Mintatery had to say to
,anly
Cluirgin.that otsight be mide Against the-he ins
anxious to lei4n what vigilance Of ad . *hewn in
removing apprehended dangers-anti, to mite to
that information, 'he called on the' WOO to open
its doors, and to hear what the people had to ad-
vance. with respect to any pievarryi they !night
have suffered under the late meosure. A .strelng
feeling•exiited, that the people had cot been fairly
treated-and 'reports were,iery prevalent that the,
Noble Viscount had himself been frothy of high
misdemeanors. It wait a qnestion whether he' fwd
a right to lay down the law to Magiiitrates.it was
also a queition, whether hi had not violated the laW
of the land in employing spies and informers to
the extent he had•dime. ifhe Noble Viscount mid.
it was idle to suppose that Oliver had formed all
the plans that were on foot. Perhaps he did not
busy himself in all of them. but it was most ;mein
that he had done utisch ,to ,eacite did ectinal and
iliaturbanCe :-Ind, if be,were sdloweds he ono
prove to the House, as spite of 04441441 of Mi-
wisterey that such was the fact. He would shear that
Oliver had taken an active port in all the troubles
that had broken out-.that he was busily employed
at Nottingham. at Manchester. pt York. and ,at
other places-(Hear. liettr.).L.He did not mean to
prejudge Oliver-but, fie would say, that, it they
meant to examine the conduct of his Majesty's
Ministers. they mast minutely investigate all the
facts competed with that person. He. did net mein
to say. that. in all case, themiployment of spies
was illegal and unjustifiable-hut Olio he would
maintain. that no persons should have recourse to
them except stub as could distinguish facts front
falael:oods. The Noble - Lord here referred to •
isamage it. Home's History of Ragland. where the
historian' speaking of the employment of , spies
and informers by Burleigh and Wplsingham,
in the year 1584. observed, '4 That. great as the
penetration of those Statesmen was, they were
•deneired by those persons ;, and mosey innocent in-
fdieiduals were in consequence persecuted"-and
argued, that, when men of such isleitts were un-
posed 'Two, it Was not hissarchng too Meat to sup-
pose that fias. Majesty's Ministers might' also hive
.been imposed •on. He then adverted to the neces-
sity. *here deception was so eMily raetised, of
granting an inquiry into the . alleged abuse or the
',trier granted to Miosisters---iml truchaded by
strongly condemning the passing of al Pdentsiity
• Bill.which won Id screen from punishnient dime who
had procured extraordinary powers lei lisp purpose
of preventing. the law from being opurisoned., het
. who, by memos of titore. misers. had. AloneweAegs
grossly violated the Canstoution of the country.
• The question was then put front the:Woolsack,
and negatived without a division.
Adjourned till to.inerrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tampa; Fes. IL

On the motion of Mr. Alderman Row (of Dub-
lin). accounts were laid on the table, a the prosspe
of the Window and Hearth Taxes in Ireland, fur
the years 1815. 1816, and 1817, di►tinguishing each
year,
A Bill was brought in for lighting the city of
Bath with gar.—Reed a .Orst time, aod ordered to
.bt mil a second time to-mormw.
A person from the Treisury presented account'
of the net revintie of Oriat Britain and !related fur
the last year: aloo sireonnts of the number of esa
touts in aid issued in the last yeas.

•AURGERT REGULATION BILL
.The Surgeil Itegiakatiuss.ktill "tab. orglereetto
raid, • seash4 time un riday. the gid igat.
cu M, $1! PEES.
Mr. BronrZTT bruullt up ;he Report of I
Chimney 4wrepenb' Bill.—l'he etuelkhirento WI
raid and agreed to, and the Bill Ordereld 'to be re
• the•thiwd time to.itiorrow.

Mr. TzED gloved CI, !did of all VitNININ captor
by private Wisps or war mauve the year 1794, wit
1166 alauunt of their procee!ho.-,-,Ortlreetl.
AGRLCULTVItAL HOUK. DUTIES.
Ou the usoluni of NF. Lusulawrot4 thcH9use
weal iota Committee upou theiAgricultura) Hoeft
44:t. ; is Ow 4;lll,4pittew a reaol4tioat we*

Zrto for ron‘inping so much of the existing
at related totoe redaction Of the duties on. agri.
Wilton, liners for soother year, mid a Bill was
Oilfired iceisraingly.
. .
• - • 'MEIER.
Mr. Caswell. felt it his' duty to advert to a
spnetion of site utmost importance to the country,
wltlwthfrh he was Noxious to presider. that lie win
eti Much disposed as any man in that House, to sib-
:lis from introducing any Meillitilre which might
considered to invade any vested rights—he' of-
hided to the subject of tithes. • It ens a fart well
kiloton.* that, within the lads seven years, not less
bio; in tithe causes had been decided, and en
egad number now remained for decision. . All
Null whatever were. of course, subject by law. to
the contriblition of tithe; and in eery many in-
'fences this was ipportiosied in form of a modus.
which was en allowisnee or movement. it sow tench
per sere, in money, instead of produce. The law
relative thereto was. he regretted to say, as yet het
imperfectly defined. Caere hod been decided' ow
different principles at different times-4nd while
this irregolai 'smilee existed, obvious public
inconvenience must be the consequente. In all
males there was an • excessive 40c-shy in establish.
sngg • mode's spinet the right of the Clergy,
sr** were, by common law. entitled to tithes, rx.
CeOt the pariehirions. could phew their right to an
etemptimi, founded in a goodies or conspiaiiirm of
tithes. which in Many cases bore a date hoot less
than 300 or 500 lean back. The hardship upon
the parishioners was. therefore, excessive, whets
obliged to exhibit proof of a right of exemption,
'hien they only could do by producing the ancient
dominsent or iostniment uposi which their claim was
founded. The Bill which he now 'imposed to in-
tredve* into the House, he had sanguine hopes
would remove the greater part of the inconveniences
Wkieh.revulted from the present manner of ascer.
mining n proper commencement of • moduli, or
the title to exemption from tithe on the pan of
parishioners. He moved that leave be given to
bring in a Bill to amend the law relative to Tithes.
The auntiets being put--
Sir W. Score rose, sod regretted that the House
should; in the former Session of Parliament, have
entertained any* grave measure, or any thing in the
shape of • Bull to re-model the laws respecting
tithes. upon the representation made to that.liontu
through the median, of certain Petitions preiente;il
last year. most of which contained sentiintnts so
@beard and inconsistent, that it was nothing short
of insanity which must have dictated the most
servos. parts of these effusions of ;celeste arrogance.
Some of them stated that the system of tithe wee
contrary to the spirit of Christian morality--anothtr
asserted that the system was cslculated to produce
a moat prejudicial effect On our political relations',
arising from our insular* situation. &c. That of
Horncburch represented it as at' once destructive
to the agricnitoralists, and' at variance with the
interests of the Christian religion.—rd
lough, f
All that could be inferred from such appeals to
Parlisasent was, that there were spirits suiScitiotly
active and anti-tithe as to occasion a numerous list
of women, marksmen, and others of the meanest
and lowest detiCription. -A Muisher of these•Peti
tious Originated id the count, of Sonserseti which
bore evident Marks, from their similarity Of style,
expremion, sod 'even hand-writing in the body of
the Petition. to have been ?rained by the tame pit.
ties. Ole mind ass not made up to oppose the
Bill at present—but he entreated the house to pre=
creed with'serispulons caution in the examination of
this Most grave and serious.suhjecr, lest they.should
Fleshly invade or overturn a sysieid eMisecrited by
years, and erected by the shiest, most learned, end
virtuous of our Lawyers and Statesmen. through
period of several centor.in.—t Heirr./—The legis-
lative copartenary oine enyed by the Clergy,
jointly wdi the Houses of Parliament, was long
since at Li end. The power of legislating for theM.
selves had 'gradually been resigned by that body,* fir
else Wrested from their hands by Parliament, and
he trusted the House wonld make a just and a
getierints 'use of their power in determining fairly •
upon the interests of a body thee throwis upon it far
proiettion.—(Hear./
Sir laosittms—The Bill of last year' in his
!mind, .proinidedllle most extensive and beneficial
inioroyeatents.* *So far from ittekng to pot an eird
td titliek the Bill might- to itrMigthen the system
throughout; by adriptisig a pritlielpie of tithe More
equitable and rational. As todustiperation on the
allude of M • ten by the Pethitte simentiOned. the
Right Hon. Prietisber as well knee atteibitted
the introduction of the Rill to the didhiiiin el the
principles of the Speoniine or the Histaradets Club.
This object of the last year's, and, *n& doubt, the
lateral yeees Bitl. wets V put en end tithe hitt*.
senienetinud insinsaly of the present prilfeipti of tithe
hiss:' in tlyiinstillll4 of the Chiefs). in undisputed
possession Of iitty yeas' put all its claim'. to reel,
whilst a tenfold letitisde Oat given to'claims on the
part Or.. the Chinch: • In %Id. to,gitie it title to a•
• Edit, Which haired all bleary on the part
.of the
. 'or • 1 .
• Clergy - it 'must
had its
• first.
merely

an objection to—althoogli lie acknowledged. that.
in the sot ote of his experience; he had never sees
an Act of Parnsenerit• drawn up with a juster or
more 'profound knowledge of the pithiest treated,
1101. one MOM admirably adopted to ensure the ere-
cation of its several provisions. He should res•-rve
his objection Until s more advanced stage of the
lid!, awl for the present give it the must decided
support. •
Mr. Lecensat conceiver! there could be tin res.
Priiriolile objection to iegistate upon this subject,
which had so 'alien beets the subject of legislation
before.. I.iry isepsoinietore 'Slid poriphiosters were
majority entitled to •protection, as to their right'. as
the 'clergy themselves.
Mr. ilear.slefendert she Learned Judge, his Right
Hon. Friend, from the sinputatioil of being averse
to make airy alteration whatever iii the low rellitite
to tithe. He had only recommeniled cootie's to the
House. before they agreed lo any material altera-
tion iii a system which had been so csrefidly re-
vised and gradually matured—a caution the snore
necessary, as, in his Mind, the application of the
ordinary rules. respecting propriety to tithe pro-
petty, would be altogether inequitable. Nor could
it he considered three was otiy'llroiler 'proof of a li-
tigious spirit On the part of the clergy, wlO;ii the
House was assured, .from 8110114 aUtheUile Ihrt/rMS"
HOU, ,hit the 'norther of "suits respecting tithe,
brought by the Clergy. during the lain three years,
didnot sthosisit to More thanthirtyAve.
Mr. Suit* 'should not propose that leave
should tiot br giiren to introduce the thli,'althotigh
he was apprehensive' that it would he difficult to re-
concile some parts of the Salto principles of sound
policy.
Lord CASTIAARAGII lamented his Right Hon.
Friend should hirie been so far misunderstood.--
He had mile suggested the propriety' of &insider-
ing the queition with that elution which would be-
Come the /loose when a property wart about to be
touched so sacred and so enteritis' to the well-being
of society. tie had not attenspted thereby to debar
the Home from discoisingtherineition, Upok the
present 'alit or 'the brisinesieheitilletted the house
not tnainiciparte,wlert •woirld, with more propriety,
be urged Olt 11.flituie 'Coulon.. • •
Mr. iSaciuonisii felt, as many others had, no
doribt, that. the Learned Judge appeared' diisPosed,
'from whit he had said to sfigotitise the 'Bill 'as u
Bill trenching on the property of-the`Hrureh,' and
should be therefbreVieired,with pecalieVinspicion.
The 'state of the 'law relative.to tithe Was avowedly
defective. Suppose the following ease 1---;The pd.
rishinnent. it mote Ornate Period of time, make' a
&imposition Wills the ineutiibebt of the parish iu
lieu of tithes,' to direct' liiltick they agree to give
up a certain portion of their hind; to hold the reit
tithe free, or grant the, their pardon • slim of money
in heti tithe: Ages sittriefibeutly. the -Cieris
gyman or the parish ,Godiilig that of common right
he is entitled lo tithe, plarthe party or pipits upon
proof *of Theirright, bY crinickeiscing k snit against
the isarishinoer Ir parlshieneis; who find themselves
unlade to preduce thefinserifnent, upeh the faith of
whose exiUtneetheyisnd their ancestors bete iuccesi-
fully challetigeilthis eireMPtiosi for centiliters; aid
which old piety of parcliMehtthey most produce Iros
gible and eutlie:• Such was tberiettetninatien of that
celebrated 'and well-known cad it Oxfoid. But the
worst of all wail 'their lifter 'Ate suit was determined
"emit these etniterididg fee 'the' composition, and
they agreed tithe. they natniiilif enough de.
Maud hick agaiti the-find or the money which was
paid for the exemption by their sheeitors; whilst
the Church turns•ronnd upon the deroandarit, RIM
pls. 44 No. no, you cannot have beck four land sir
money ; how can you prove the fact
‘Ol'' its hearing
been given for this • consideration ?" The naturalo
cocsetinenee of ti is (afraid,. " arrlismi inspire cc-
ecclesia," is, that the
.psrlihioner is eons-
pelted' to pity the' tithe. and &moot' ger back his
land or' money:—Meor.):—tliider; these circum-
stioces.'llo 'wotold contend the lip required no
or torrietidn; and he for one should' rote
tlisi lease bergiveiiiirlsfing per the Bill.
Sir-Vitt.t.tall'ScOn kiptaitied.•
Mr. Cusietit complainktl of the Petitions of last
&Minis being 'Satiated up: with the nature of his Bin.
toisire wiis then given to bring in the Bill.
Sir Ssilibei, Rost t.t.irgiee notice, thin he would,
on' Wertnenday next, move fin 'leave to firing in ir
Bid to irpeitt- the Act of Williatit 111. rendering
private stealing in ir shop felony.
JCITICE *DAY.
Mr. Bstittarr said; shrieks; had, in the course of
last Session; Prevenied a Petition 10 Lists
Judge 160,1; it 'Wits only by south Ohlititatiiiii he
had been isiduied to dpi so. Iteihnidhined of im-
proPti curidletinthe lodge oh a triat of duel, held
-befere Nitta; 'god 'of 'O4 language in bpi charge ist-
cousuiterst- with charketer •is R Judge. • Since
that time hiller& learned .frerir serail persons Of
high toosittefellon iistd reepectability, that there was
no, fotindatirio Whatever for the ebergesi. He hid
also had t ethirianuitidino front thk Learned Judge
' hisoself.for *hem.' he' begged !time to say, he en-
tertaided tfiehigheit eeepeCt. He wilts now cop-
' winced that the allegations of the Petition were per-
&city geoundtesi,' eaid Ise'vrae happy to be able to
inake•thie statemeiri. 'Ohs of the allegations was.
tlir pettish tried'otis a relative of the Judge's. As
to this.- be 'stated -himself. that it was not the fact.
MUM,' that the relation was scarcely more than
exisled meinhirs of society. Another
that he had thrown difficulties in the. wiry of
phicuriag the Writ ; so far froui this. it tippeired he
' had hiebeeif ideaoced money out of bki 'pricket for
the pOrrooe-. Of 'proroliiiii it. ' A third was,thet
' the' jeers iadicted ups of a proweefel fetidly, and
that that had been • ogre 'of favour.' He was
'ritrtheriied to eny, that davit had been no *hew
' libateter to `support" tbii. Ilk Wag' rejoiced to
t 4 'able to or,ritir this reparation 'SO the character
if that respected tw-onik sue in his
power. He wen nialools it idiould be es public
as pooli*!ble; sinew k dr Ate impubstiotis 'of
Mile 11tiltioit'llatt'ref • eery extesided circa's-
thous '..isase pfe 'at,the desire of the Chan-
tenor, issifttilVd 'VV ilatitrisitgeinst the author
itfifor stankett thilk gieing the latter a right to
moil the froth Of pre 'negations iii jirstificatiou.
Hit reith iiiphitied the oppOrittnily to re-
wholly void of ground.
MG • Pititik"otroaily applauded the hutioutatile
Manlier 'ln which • the Ilonoorable Member had
Made a 'pidle denial 'of the truth of these tin-
- founded elissiges: lie had not been in the louse
wtiftl ter retitiou hid been presented, if hk had he

• •

9.nos:to. tpcs bef4.llitip ..they war ,not ends*.
4
c.1‘41 0 ,/ Mt,; as 11w 41)96,!,* If
on crypi.. . Vitlittlir7•4lollll rwirlir.,
4.7ip
is efill if it • !hey.hight d
*ON sawn iris *de. it -,yrap iiiiposibleelt
osi .NAM • Lord •to my .what jam:limbo* .bed I
been hid before the Consnihtee. or what for.'
thee iNfTlialbalt it MVP ,tilictewy w :king under
their cepstpiwi• It woo pnisible that the Lam-
miiitre itiii reel' the irtihn to be so full es
,to cnnble them to
.mi - n -Report satisfactory to i
'lltlenSedves iripl to thC ' niise:abif iiirisi...iihip,por•
'able' that thtilearters linclobefoie.thar taught
,* ught hp
!nide and ill throned. ss to induce ,heal to come

heels documents !aid before them. N.p.'w. until the
Haase:mi. some of 'Atilt obi Repent of the Com-
mittee wss, it was "Rite set ed the queotinn for them
." fi;n4.,l! JP, ,t ". .04t. OVIIKr. ,Itraglettibigli i 4 'ln Wit sPecrAvs.r. An *LT'', iNo4 .6tris
. .
0 the,Pan!trfr mg minch-ennt‘rwittoreihad
'loWw.rtglitd. Apl,WipWcc.tp.titi.,Pe R*llo :pk.,1411
h.bkn ißgeisil 4gcrewll4WlM-thcrlPPill/or in. which
Lie afivi.ittr 314. 4/14 .414111.0• f- Altbitateilt bad
,fltiltoinltentntell inail.lienin ? it Ante inttivin, al in
oli other inenumes, . the r, ht the inilivirbter who
peopurdthitciMitter: ill piffle. in Ski 4 • i0'1•46:.
'1•46:. :NO 'tkUltii o'er Lk, ififtit so.. !.•',.. ( EMl-
.kiers,Of ii. . u pcgdporo.;h4t,caterse. their; rd.
-41ilisegi•eiti betin.2 sight In cote .nit eneh• name.
,Bit whet adrimege could 'be gAwell by this pin-
MAUI!: Haw wit' it topetiur to the system 'of
helletting ? The -latter *en the most proper.

Cleniy 'or improprisior, it 'must be aheln to have,
had da eaiiiteiice prior to the time or Richard the.
Piro, "perild 01600 yeatle. Whit he aid Iskilis4ll
meerly''sliigibited is a desire tie do Swat with the
impression he felt wds likely to he made by thal
graveilel ',Arran warning given by the Learned{
Judge of the Admiralty, to *henna, from ittlee4
medilling,with rights so sacred and generally recog-I
nixed es those of the' property or the Clergy. It!
was too sheltie' a proVasition to be gravely enter.
mined in that Honor, dial any 'hunt hi the -tithe
system militated 'spinal the interlits of Chriatlio
morality, except in the our,. feelings which' set
UsifrtipseintlY 'were the Comiegance of feuds and
contentions between 'pastors And their flak% °pin
the subjects of Migration reapeCtierg tithe
By
ill, among liN4tetne
.the.etikr a wawa claima
ri tof modps or.comp,editeon, the weaker it was
coutrogitto Aram'
.anel welpteelita 'priueivld
of law el otlier cases. was uirsi Iwo ecolOreeff
quid. • heat, suers the.
,distiblipg, statute of Queen
firlereed gloat thief/ peen* afire
Or' distolnlkoi of the , looporories by her (giber.
inxpynimltqr. !VI connote' capable of alissia•
.MOP, Doti) the decision of-iNCC,orpolatioti Of Ber.
, weck .efiattiAed Ahe fountlatimia of chits,. as it 'hail
previrmsly,stooll ; which, decision he &matronly
he!hure .40to reprobate, Its
fully Inr its datigetroits coulequericass., iti direa
tendency was toprotek hey ieskproprirdors. es. if' they
bid beets ccylesiastim. ,there, were milts Of the
.1411,,1 loch though tbiMeeivet‘ he felt