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by any principle of rctransmisian by post, but simply by
their own cheapness. A man in that country got his
newspaper for a penny or a halfpenny, and it %as their
duty to the public to give them cheap newspapers if
they could, but not to support them by a system which
was unnatural and abnormal. He quite agreed with
those gentlemen in the motives which induced them
to advocate retransmission, but at the same time
let them have newspapers in abundance, and as near as
possible to the doors of the people.
Mr. DUFFY called the attention of the Chancellor
of the Exchequer to the clause in the bill restricting the
time in which newspapers should be posted for re-trans-
mission to 15 days, and remarked that it would affect
all papers intended for colonial postage. (Hear. hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied
that the clause was never intended to apply to colonial
postage, and if the hon. gentleman chose he w 4 uld insert
a clause di-tinotly specifying that it was intended to
apply to the United Kingdom.

- Mr. VANSITrART said it was his intention to move
that the bill be read a second time this day six months,
and he thought he was justified in so doing ; in the first
place because the time this bill was read a second the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had not made the house
aware of the great increase of taxation which had since
been imposed upon the country—especialy of the large
increase is the income-tax, which, as they were
all aware, proved most heavily in the majority
of the community. (Hear, hear, and cheer;.) Of all the
speakers in that house whom be had heard on the sub-
ject, he did not thick anyone, except the hon. member
f.r Manche-ter, really liked that bil. It was not de-
sired, and ie. was not wished for. The right hon. gen-
tleman had st tted that a large amount of revenue, to
the extent of '200,0001., would accrue in consequence of
the abolition of the duty, but lie thought the retransmission
of newspapers, as proposed, would be a source of less
rather than gain to the Government. Under al the
circumstances, he felt it his duty to move that the bill
be read a second tune this day 6 months.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said although he had in the
first instance, voted in favour of the bill, because he
thought it advisable at the time he should not vote for
the amendment. We had a deep interest in the diffusion
of political intelligence, and useful information by means
of newspapers he admitted, but they had an equal interest
in taking care that these newspapers should be of the
best possible class, and that they should be carried on by
men of character and intelligence, and believing as he
did that the power of re-transmission was a premium on
the highest class of newspapers, he should be sorry to see
it abolished, and be hoped the Coancellor of the Ex-
chequer would pause before he interfered with its ope-
ration. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. WHITESIDE said it was never too late to do
an act of justice, and in his opinion he had been guilty
of injustice in supporting that measure on a previous oc-
casion. The different clauses in the bill had appeared
and disappeared, and again reappeared so frequently,
that he scarcely knew in what position the measure now
stood. Then again, in tbe case of the copyright. he wished
to ads his right hon. friend why did he propose it at all?
Did he not propose it in a conscientious belief that the
measure would be productive of a deep injury upon ex-
isting interests unless a remedy of some such kind were
provided ? (Rear, hear.) That remedy was accordingly
suggested, but upon this occasion it was withdrawn, it
being found absolutely inoperative to effect its object.
What was all this but an admission on the part of his
right bon. friend that he was about to do an injustice,
which it was his duty to remedy. And yet this injury
was still about to be inflicted for the sake of effecting
some good, which so far as he could see, was
quite`problenaatical. What right had the house, whose
duty it was to protect the rights of property, to
do pre itive injury to existing interests? Well, then
having failed in this copyright clause the next obnoxious
proposition was the liantstien of the weight of wipers
passing through the post. ‘'n what did his right lion.
friend ground that principle—why should lie draw the
line at lour ounces instead of six ! Why, it
was a positive contradiction to preceding legisla-
tion. First of all they had abolished the adver-
tisement duty, but now that that had been productive
of an increase of advertisements the house interpose I
and said, "You have too much printed matter, we will
not allow you to send it by post without extra charge."
(Hear, hear.) This was %4 ridiculous as it was unjust
Why not allow a man who bought an unstemped news-
paper, after reading it, to transmit it to his friends if he
saw anything in it interesting to them ? The bill
was full of anomalies and absurdities, and the
honourable member concluded by urging there was
no principle of legislation so unjust as to ()Lain a pro-
!demotic& good at a private or public injury.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
the hon. member had adopted, to say the least of it,
a most unusual course in respect of the bill,
now before the house. In committee on the bill he (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) proposed a clause with re-
ference to copyright and its remedy, which the hon.
member for Enniskillen opposed, on the same grounds
he had stated, in such forcible language to the
house. (Hear, hear.) The clause was not a part of
the original measure, and proposed by him as necessary,
but on the special ground be stated in moving the clause
in committee, that the Government did it in difference
to the interests of existing newspapers, who considered
the measure would be detrimental to their interests by
calling into existence a large class of newspapers
who would pilfer their intelligence. He did not state
then, that he believed, nor did he believe now, that such
a state of things would exist to any considerable extent
under the provisions of the bill now before the
house. The clause was considered and withdrawn
in committee, and it (nlit not. now to form an ob-
jection to the third reading of the bill. As to the
fears of those gentlemen who believed that the passing
of this bill would call into existence such a class of pub-
lications, a remedy could shortly he found to meet it.
Lle then proceeded to defend the proposition of charging
by weight. &e., as proposed by the Government.

Lord PA. LAERSTON submitted to the house whe •
ther they would not allow the third reading. to stand
over, in consequence of the illness of the Speaker to
allow him to vacate the chair. All present must be
aware of the pain the hon. gentleman was suffering,
hod would be anxious to relieve him from his attendance
that night.

Mr. bISRAELI submitted that the best course to
adopt wonhi be to adjourn the debate on tue third real•
ing, and the proposition Laving been acceded t 3, the
third reading %OA postponed to Friday.
The SPEAKER then left the chair, and the bouge
then went tut.) committee of supply, ➢lr. FrrzaoY in the
chair.

Several votes were taken without discussion or oppo-
sition, among which were votes for the salaries of
the judges and commissioners of the Insol-
vent Debtors' Court. With respect to the last
vote the salaries of the commissioners of the Insolvent
Debtors' Court. •

Mr. WILSON, in answer to a question from Mr.
aENLEY, stated that that the judg,e4 were paid by -
laries voted in that house, but the clerks and officers
were paid by fees.

[LEFT BITTING.]

ARMY BEFORE SRBASTOPOL COM-

MITTEE-(771112--D-Aij

(Continued from our first edition.)

Mr. Monsen, M.P., Clerk of the Ordnance, bad held
the appointment for two years and five months, previous
to the alteration of the War Department. He was a
co-ordinate member of the board, with no more power
of originating anything than the other members of the
board. He was the medium of communication between
the Minister of War and the board. During the latter
part of the war Sir Hugh Ross was the militaly medium
~f communication between the War-office and the beard,
whil,t witness had the Civil Department ; during the
present war he had the whole to attend to. His first
order for warm clothing for the army was on the 21st
June. He received it from the Minister of War, and
communicated it to the board. On the 11th of July he
sent out for patterns to be forwarded io Dr. A. Smith.
The order was signed by himself. An order was given,
signed by Sir Thomas Hastings, on 14th July, for a
board of medical officers to report on them. They met
on the 15th, and reported favourably. After that the
board gave orders for the supply, but materially changed
several of the articles to be supplied, in consequence of
subsequent patterns being sent in, the adoption of which
was for the advantage of the troops, taking the better
articles at the higher price. dr. Kynaston had
received an order for the supply of clothing previous to
the board's making the alteration mentioned, part of
which was sent in ; the alteration in the laboratory was
made by the authorities at Woolwich, under a misap-
prehe ision that he had given an order : so far as his
memory served him he did no such thing, but the en-
largement had been of benefit to the service, from the in-
crea,ed demands on the laboratory, and the committee
subsequently approved of it. The outlay of money had
been to the advantage of the country. Captain Collison
(had it not been approved of by the board) would have
been the responsible person for the cost, he having given
the order.
By Lord Seymour—The work was done by contract,
but he could not recollect when the irregularity was dis-
covered, if the board had the contract before them.
The Chairman—It appears by your evidence that
public works might proceed upon contract without a
knowledge of these facts coming to the knowledge of
the Board of Ordnance appears so up to the 15th
June.
What steps did the board take on the discovery of
such a great irregularity ?—I believe, none. The alte-
rations cast 2,0001. The approval of the board to the
alterations wad after the work must have been com-
pleted, and the contract entered into.
Tile Chairman—Who is the party representing the
Ordnance in that contract ? The letter I have here is
addressed to. 'Captain Collison, of the Royal Arsenal,
Woolwich.

How was it that an understanding was made to pay
money, and the board was not aware by whom it was
made ? Oug.'it not the hoard to know every step that
wai taken ? As you now represent the board can you
tell who sanctioned the contract presume the au-
ttiorities at 'Woolwich supposed I authorised the altera-
tion and exe, cution of the work verbally. The contract
was ultimate ly accepted by the Board, but not until the
work was tin isbed.

Was not t he work commenced and finished without
knowing w'iLlt it would cost ?—I should say not, but it
!s impossible for me to know anything about it. I think
you had bett€ r examine Captain Collison on it.
Sir J. Pakiigton—Did you ever know a verbal order
to be given in such a case ?—I should be sorry to
say a ver'oal order was never given in soca a
case, but I cannot recall a case to my mind. The
alteration 'caused the saviug of 1,2001. in the con-
struction of lusees in one week, and the probabLity of
run Ling sho; -t of shot and shell wai prevented. In May,
1854, be wai ; alone at the ordnance for a period of a fort-
night or thri 3e weeks when this alteration took place, and

there was no board to consult relative to the expenditure.
Captain Boxer subsequently brought under his notice
the waking of snot and she! which as submitted to a ,
board as soon after as another member of the board
attended. He differed from Sir Tnomas Hastings that
the signature of two members of the board was neces-
sary for authorising the expenditure of money. He had ;
never heard of such an arrangement. Captain Boxer
required 7,0001. for carrying out his intentions for the
construction of shot and shell. Witness took
no measures to satisfy himself that sum
was a correct estimate for the work to be done.
He undertook to produce certain results, and wit-
ness on his own responsibility undertook the expendi-
ture of that sum. Not only did he think his colleagues
would sanction that expenditure, but he considered it
was their duty to do so in this ca-e. There had been no
doubt a want of shells during toe last 14 months, but jl
he had heard of no defects in the quality
of the article manufactured within that time.
A pressing order came a short time since
for shells which were supplied earlier than they other-
wise could have been without the machinery of Captain
Boxer, and had they had the app:iances earlier the shells
could have been produced much quick. r than they were,
The foundry for shells alluded to is in the laboratory at
Woolwich. An estimat9 was taken for the laioratory
this year a, 33,0001.; the expenditure had
been 47.0001., in which was included the 7,0001. for
Captain Boxer.
By Lord Seymour—ln November, 1354, the Duke of
Newcastle sanctioned the expenditure of 10,0001 for the
erection of a shell foundty. It first originated in his
grace's office. and on its coming to witness he consulted
with Coliison and others up .n the best place
fir pitting it. Collison did not then make any
objection. He passed over the head of the de-
, part:oh-la (Cu'. Wilson) in the construction of this
foundry, and went to Capt. Boxer, whom he considered a
more competent person.

How dirt you pr)ceed with this building? Was a re-
gular contract, entered into by Capt. Collison ?-1 believe
it was so ; the building proceeded in the regular way,
but the machinery in an irregular manner ; the greater
part of the expense w .s for the machinery.
By General Pet i—The irregularities mentioned in
connection with those buildings were carried on with
the signatures of two members of the board, Sir Thomas
Hastings protesting against it.
The hun. gentleman was proceeding with the reading
of a corre,pondence connected with the appointment
and dismis,al of officers connected with the htly.:ratory
when the committee adjourned.

OFFICIAL DESPATCH PROM FIELD-
MARSHAL LORD RAGLAN.

( From a Supplement to the London gazette, of Friday')
WAR-DEPARTMENT, MAY 7.
Lord Pautuure has this day received( a despatch and
its enclosures, of which the following are copies, ad-
dressed to his lordship by Field-Marshal the Lord
Raglan, G.C.B.
Before S,l3l.stopol, April 24, 1855.
My Lord,—Nothing material has occurred since I
made my report to your Lordship on the 21st instant.
The Russian rifle pit, immediately in front of that
which was taken on the night of the 19 was destroyed
by a party of volunteers on the rimming of the 21st
inst These were headed by Lieutenant and Adjutant
Walker, of the 30th Regiment, who is stated to be an
excellent officer, and to have conducted himself on the
occasion in the most sp►rited manner.

The pit wits found to be empty, and being useless was
immediately levelled and filled in. The enemy did not
interrupt the work.

I inclose the list of casualties, which, I regret to say,
is heavy. The nearer we approach the place the more
loss is to be ap, rehended. Hitherto it has beers less
than might have been expected.
I have, &c.,
The Lord Panmure, &c.

RAGLAN.

Enclosure 1.

RETURN OF CASUALTIES FROM THE 20TH TO
THE 22D OF APRIL, INCLUSIVE.
9th R gimont of Foot-1 rank and rill, wounded.
17th Foot-1 rank and tile, killed.
19th Foot-1 rank and file wounded.
38th Foot-3 rank and file wounded.
41st Foot-1 tank and file, killed; 15 do., wounded.
4dth Foot-1 seijeant, wounded.
47th Foot-3 rank and file wounded.
49th Foot-1 rank and file killed, 1. do. wounded.
55th Foot-1 serje•tnt, 1 rank•and file wounded.
57th Foot —2 rank and file, kille1; 2 do., wounded
62d Foot-1 rank and file, killed ; 1 officer, wounded
77th Foot-2 rank and file, wounded
89th Foot-1 rank and tile, wounded
2d Battalio❑ Rifle Brigade —7 rank and file, wounded
Royal Artillery-1 serjeant, kille.l; 1 rank and tile,
woun.h d

Total-1 serjeant, 6 rank and file, killed; 1 officer, 2
serjeants, 39 rank and file, wounded.
J. B. BUCKNA.I4I, ESTCOURT,
A,ljutaut-Geueral.
Enclosure 2.

NOMINAL RETURN OF OFFICERS WHO HAVE
BEEN WOUNDED FILOV. THE 20rit TO THE 22D
APRIL, 18)5, INCLUSIVE.

WOUNDED.
APitIL 21.
Regiment of Foot.
Lieutenant-Colonel R. A. :ihearmln slightly
J. 13. BUCKNALf. ESTUOURT,
Adjutant-General.
Enclosure 3.

NOMINAL RETURN OF NON COMMISSIONED
OFFICERS' AND PRIVATES KILLED FROM THE
2JTH TO 22D APRIL, 185 i, INCLUSIVE.

KILLED.
Arum
57th 11,,,giment of Foot.
Private Alexander Graham.
Private Foster Murray.
Royal Artilery.
Serjeant James Bratton.
APRIL 21.
17th 11,,gitnent of Foot.
Private Charles Higgiuson.
41st Regiment of Foot.
Private William Maitland.
49th R..giment Of Foot.
Private Michael Kelly.
621 R .giineut of Foot
Private John Fallow,.
J. B. IA7CKNAIL ESTCOURT,
Adjutant-General.
Enclosure 4.

NOMINAL RETURN OF NON-COMMISSIONED
OFFICERS AND PRIVATES NOUN :JED FROM
THE 20TD TO THE 22D APRIL, 1855, INCLUSIVE.

WOUNDED.
APRIL 20.
38th Regiment of Foot.
Lance Corporal James Mullens, slightly
Private Win. Archer, slightly
Private John Dignan, slightly
41st Regiment of Foot.
Corporal Samuel Allum, severely
Corporal Jaiaes Davies. slightly
Private John Burke, dangerously, since dead
Private Win. Coughlan, severely
Private John Gaffney, slightly
Pi ivate Edward Garrard, slightly
Private Christopher Morgan, slightly
Private Martin Rogan, slightly
Private George Fenwick, dangerously
47th Regiment of Foot.
Private Michael Cortnick, slightly
Private James Barry, severely
Pi irate John Dwyer, severely
55th Regiment of Foot.
Private William Fairlie, dangerously
57th Regiment of Foot.
Private John Pasiield, slightly
89th Regiment of Foot.
Private Moses Jones, slightly
Royal Artillery.
Gunner Samuel Beckley, slightly
APRIL 21.
41st Regiment of Foot.
Private Patrick Ennis, slightly
Private John Henry, slightly
Private .John Malony, slightly
Private Patrick Nowland, slightly
Private Henry Turner, slightly
Private Robert Skinner, slightly
.46th Regiment of Foot.
Serjeant Henry Gleed, severely
49th Regiment of Foot.
Private Thomas Kemp, slightly
57th Regiment of Foot.
Private E Imond Curtain, dangerously
2d Battalion Rifle Brigade.
Private Thomas Flynn, dangerously
Private John Twiggs, slightly
APRIL 22.
ofh R,..iirrierlt of Foot.
Private Richard Care, slightly
19th Regtiotnt, of Foot.
Private Jame.; Deinelly, severely, since dead
49th Regiment of Fo t.
Private John Teasey, severely
55th R.'ginient of Foot.
Serjeant Alexander McCloy, severely
77th Regiment of Foot.
Private Thomas Oliver, dangerously
Private Jessey Nicholls, dangerously
2d Battalion Rifle Brigade.
Lance-Corporal Joseph Rowe, slightly
Private Robert Humpston, slightly
Private Henry Arnitt, severely
Private William Perkins, slightly
Private Thomas Flynn, severely
J. B. BUCKNALL ESTCOURT,
Adjutant-General.
Enclosure 5.

A RETURN OF CASUALTIES IN THE ROYAL
NAVAL BRIGADE, BEFORE SEBASTOPOL, ON
THE 21st APRIL, 1855.
WOUNDED.
George Bogle' A. 8., Rodney, slightly
CONTUSED.
Lieutenant A. A. Douglas, R.M.A., slightly
Vital, 1 wounded. I contused, 2 casualties.
(Signed) STEPHEN LUSHINGTON,
Captain Commanding Naval Brigade.
The Military Secretary to H. E. Lord Raglan,
Com 11130
RETURN OF CASUALTIES IN THE ROYAL
NAVAL BRIGADE BEFORE SEBASTOPOL, ON
THE 2: ND APRIL, l8:15.

WOUNDED.
John Collin?, Orti.,_London, slightly

Total—f w0ui,"41,41

(Signed) STEPHEN LUSHINGTON,
Captain Coinm•uiding Naval Brigade.
The Military Secretary to H. E. Lord Raglan,
Cornmanilar-in-Chief.
RETURNOF CASUALTIES IN THE ROYAL MAVAL
RRTGADE BEFORE SEBASTOPOL, ON THE, 23D
APRIL, 1855.

CONTUSED.
Ed. Smith, A. 8., Leander, slightly
Jerh. Maloney, Ord., Ro .ney, slightly
John Gordon, Ord., Queen, slightly
Total-3 Contused.
(Signed) STEPHEN WS EIINGTON.
Clptaiu Commanding Naval Brigade.
Tito Military Secretary to H. E, Lord Raglan,.
Commander-in-Chief.

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CORN EXCHANGE.

There was a steady demand for English wheat in mos'
of the country markets held on Saturday, and paces ha.
an upward tendency. The amount of business doing, how
ever, was by no means extensive. Barley, oats, beam
peas, and flour changed hands steadily, on rather highe
terms. _ _ . .

Great excitement has prevailed in the shipping ports ii
the Lower Baltic, and a considerable rise has taken plat,
in the quotations.
The arrivals of English grain up to our markets last
week were very moderate From abroad we receive,
1!,281 quarters of wheat, 1,96 barley, 37,037 oats, 1,77'
beans, 883 peas, 402 tares, 4,150 linseed, 190 rapeseed,
sundry seeds, and 708 sacks of flour.
Fresh up to our market to-day the arrivals of Englisl,
wheat coastwise were bat moderate, and the receipts by
land carriage were small. Notwithstanding that the show
of samples of both red and white was limited, the deinauL:
for most descriptions, owing chiefly to the favourably
change in the weather, and the small numbers of bag,
buyers in attendance, was in a sluggish state, and last Mon-
day's prices were with difficulty supported; indeed, in some
instances, to prevent demurrage, rather easier rates were
accepted by the factors.
We had only a moderate supply of foreign wheat in the
market. There was, however, no disposition shown to
speculate in this article ; and, for consumption, the inquiry
was limited. Importers, however, were firm in their
demands, and last week's prices were supported in every
instance.

The show of barley was but moderate, yet sales pro-
gressed slowly, ou former terms.
We had a dull inquiry for malt, at last week's quo-