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RELIGIOUS WORSHIP BILL,

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said, on the motion
for the third reading of this bill, which had been referred
to a select committee, he should move that the bill be
read a third time that day three months.
Lord PORTMAN presented a petition from the
tenant farmers of the county of Dorset, complaining of
the large expenditure of county rates.
The Earl of HARDWICKE was understood to say
that the large expenditure was unavoidable.
THE LATE LORD RAGLAN.
The clerk at the table having read her Majesty's most
gracious message,
Lord PANMURE, in rising to meve that her
Majesty's most gracious message be now taken into
consideration, said he trusted the house would
bear with him while he discharged his most painful duty.
It was not only the loss of those that had fallen in the
field, but also of those who had fallen victims to disease,
that the country had to lament. They were
now called upon to record the national feeling
of sorrow at learning that an illustrious individual had been
taken from them, in whom the army had the greatest
confidence. It had pleased God to remove by disease Lord
Raglan from the head of the army in the Crimea ; and it
was a singular fact that the same calamity should have
fallen upon both of those commanders who had been
placed at the head of the French and English armies. France I
had to lament St. Arnaud, and England to mourn for her
Raglan. It was scarcely necessary for him to remind
their lordships of the great services Lord Raglan had
rendered to his country. At an early age he embraced the
profession of arms. In 1807 he was selected and associated
with the late Duke of Wellington, and was placed on the
staff of that great commander upon the occasion of the
expedition to Portugal. The Duke of Wellington
selected Lord Fitzroy Somerset to be attached to
his staff, and an intimacy continued from 1807 to
1852, to the termination of the Duke of Wellington's
life, during which the noble duke reposed the greatest
confidence in Lord Raglan. There was not one great
engagement in which the Duke of Wellington had been
engaged, in which Lord Raglan had not to bear a con-
spicuous part. At Waterloo, Lord Raglan lost
his arm, and at the close of the war Lord
Raglan, instead of retiring into private life, still
continued his services to his country. From the
close of the last war until the very moment of his la-
mented death his unceasing exertions were still given to
the cause of his country. If there was one point more
conspicuous in the services of Lord Raglan than
another, it was that he had established the alliance
and the most friendly relations between the
armies of the two countries —an alliance
which it was hoped would never be shaken. Of his
amiability he could himselfspeak, for it had been his hap-
piness to have been associated with him for six years.
The noble lord having observed that Lord Raglan had
been called upon to take the command of that army at
a time when there was not a man that could do it better,
delivered into the hands of the Lord Chancellor the re-
ply to her Majesty's most gracious message.

The LORD CHANCELLOR then read the reply,
which was an echo of the royal message.
The Earl of DERBY passed a brilliant euloginm
on the deceased commander, dwelling in most forcible
language upon the more prominent features in the career
of the noble lord. He observed that the military services
of Lord Raglan, his long connection with the most illus-
trious captain of our day, whose confidence and friend-
ship he possessed to an extraordinary degree, the services
which he performed in the civil administration of the
army—above all, the disinterested and noble manner
in which, at the call of duty, he again girded on his
sword, and the manner in which, at the head of his
army, he has performed the most arduous and the most
important duties, entitle him, hardly less than his great
master and chief, to the respect and veneration of the
country at large.
Lord HARDINGE, after expressing his deep regret
at the loss of'his noble friend, with whom he had been
connected nearly fifty years in the service of his country,
said, whilst regretting the misfortune which the country
had sustained in the loss of Lord Raglan, he hoped
that a worthy successor would be found, and that the
operations of the campaign would be conducted to a
successful issue.

The Duke of CAMBRIDGE, having been associated
with his noble and illustrious friend, trusted their lord-
ships would permit him, as a humble member of the
army which Lord Raglan so ably commanded, to say
that he cordially agreed with what had fallen from his
noble friend the Minister at War, and did not think
that, in the whole army or in this country, there could
be found one individual who could have conducted him-
self in a manner so well calculated to combine the pro-
ceedings of the allied armies, and to insure that intimate
association which was so absolutely necessary to success.
The Earl of CARDIGAN also paid a brief tribute to
the memory of his deceased commander.
After a few observations from the Earl of GALLOWAY
and the Duke of BEAUFORT,

Earl GRANVILLE said that her Majesty's Govern-
ment rejoiced at the unanimity of feeling which had been
shown by their lordships on this most sad occasion—a
feeling which he believed to be a faithful echo of the
regret experienced by every class of the community. In
Lord Raglan's confidential letters to the day of his death
there was not one angry word against the persons who
made charges against him, and in one of his last letters
he expressed a strong belief that of all who had thought
it their duty to complain of his conduct, there was not
one single person who was actuated by any feeling of
ill-will towards him. Now, there did not exist in the
War-office one tingle despatch bringing the slightest ac-
cusation of any sort or kind against our brave and gal-
lant allies, or describing a single transaction which
could give colour to any imputation against them.
There was not a man who did not feel regret that
Lord Raglan, who had not only an English but a
European character, as being the bravest and
gentlest, ono of the most chivalrous and one of the
best men that ever sacrificed his life in his country's
cause, should be taken from us at this moment of difficulty.
The Earl of ELLESUENE and Lord BROUGHAM having
expressed their cordial concurrence,
The motion was unanimously agreed to, and their
lordships adjourned.

ROUSE OF COMMONS—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair shortly after 12 o'clock.
The Lords' amendment to the Leek Improvemen.
Bill was considered and agreed to.

Livesey's Blackburn Estate Bill was read a second

time.

METROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGEMENT BILL.
The house then went into committee on the above
bill, resuming at clause A, relative to the qualifications
of vestrymen, adjourned from 28th June.
On the clause relative to the mode of voting being put,
Lord EBRINGTON suggested that the mode of
voting should be by polling instead of by voting paper.
It was a system that had been adopted with success in
the election of guardians throughout the kingdom. It
had also been successfully tried in St. Pancits. Ho con•
tended there would be less fraud by voting as he pro-
posed than by the present mode of voting, and moved
an amendment accordingly.
Mr. WILLIAMS opposed the amendment. The
house, by agreeing to it, would commit a great error,
for a worse system could not be adopted than placing
the electoral franchise in the hands of the police.
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Lord EBRINGTON considered the votes would be
taken better by the course he proposed than the present
mode. He cared not who it was done by, and if the
police was an objectionable body to perform the duty,
let a certain number of men be engaged for the purpose
eV 2s. per day.
Mr. WILKINSON supported the amendment of the
noble lord, and presented a petition in its favour.
Sir B. HALL said this was not a new mode of voting
prescribed by the bill. He proposed eight places instead
of one, for the borough of Lambeth for taking the votes,
which was approved of by the rate-payers, though not
by the guardians. To make a great measure palatable
to the rate-payers it should contain provisions in ac-
cordance with the public feeling, but were he to adopt
the course proposed by the noble lord it would be dis-
tasteful to the public, and insure its rejection.
Mr. A. PELLAIT agreed with Lord Ebrington. The
course he suggested for taking the votes would be the
means of preventing popular excitement and a great sav-
ing of expense.
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and calling for them again. He could easily understand
that this was a convenient mode for those who would
not take the trouble to go to the poll, but that was
likely to be got over by the -present bill, eight polling
places having been appointed instead of one for taking
the votes. He thought this question ought to be decided
on the general feeling and wish of the ratepayers, and
from all he had heard it appeared the system proposed
by the bill met, with the sanction and approval of the
majority of them.
Lord EBRINGTON -then withdrew his amendment.
Sir B. HALL brought up a clause for compensation
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this bill should be abolished, The perms so deprirecl of
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• his office shall apply for compensation at the district
board, and they, under the powers of the Palace Act of
1849, shall take such application into consideration, and
decide whether the compensation shall be by an
annuity or the payment of a fixed sum. Any per-
son feeling himself aggrieved by such decision to have
an appeal to the metropolitan beard of works, whose die
cision shall be final. If an annuity be graced, and t
parson so receiving it be appointed to atother office of
equal or greater value, such annuity shall cease ; and if
the salary be of less amount the compensation shall be
reduced the amount of his income from his new office.
111 r. T. DUNCOMBE said he did net consider the
clause went far enough. There were persons holding
relations in connection with others affected by the act,
who would not be removed from office, although their
incomes would be diminished, and he wished to know
how they were to be compensated.
Sir B. HALL admitted the difficulty of the case, and
promised to direct his attention to the circumstances,
and consult further with the hon. member for Lambeth,
before the clause again came before the house. He
thought it might be got over by introducing the words
" wholly or in pert " shall have lost his situation.
Lord EBRINGTON was delighted to find the hon.
baronet, the President of the Board of Health, had re-
cognised the principle of compensation. Cases of com-
pensation should be decided in as judicial and impartial
a manner, and the tribunal as much removed from per-
sonal contact with the persons so affected as possible.
He thought it would be better to place the power of
determining the amount of compensation in the Metro-
politan Board of Works, and the appeal from that body
to the Treasury.
Lord SEYMOUR, in order to insure a uniformity of
allowance, suggested that before the compensation wee
granted it should be forwarded to the central board, and
their sanction obtained.

Sir B. HALL concurred in the suggestion of the
noble lord, and promised to alter the clause so as to pro-
vide for that uniformity of principle in granting compen-
sation so necessary.
Sir W. CLAY thought the right of appeal ought to
be given to the vestry as well as the person claiming
compensation, so as to protect the vestry against too
large an amount of compensation being granted.
Sir F. BARING said he thought the naming of a
proper Court of Appeal a very important question. It
should be as independent a tribunal as possible ; he knew
none more fitting for the discharge of the duty than the
Treasury.
Mr. WILLIAMS was in favour of the Treasury being
appointed a Court of Appeal.
Sir B. HALL could not but consider it rather singu-
lar that the metropolitan members should be so anxious
to take the right of granting compensation out of the
hands of those to whom great powers would be given
by this bill. He considered the commissioners who
would be the guardians of the ratepayers the best per•
sons to grant this compensation rather than
leave it to the Treasury, who might grant larger sums
than were necessary. If the house wished it to be place I
in the hands of the Lords of the Treasury he would alter
the clause accordingly.
After a few remarks from Sir J. WILLOUGHBY and Mr.
WILKINSON, the clause was added to the bill.