The National Register.
London, England, 1812-02-02 00:00:00

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fair and candid manner wEich-ithad riovi betin explained, he should
have been the last man in the House to have opposed it.
The 14th clause was then put and agreed to.
'On the 15th clause being read, •
Mr. GILES opposed it, principally on the ground that it was incorrect
to say that the deficiences had been all made up, those arising in the year
1811 being not yet supplied.
Mr. BROITGIi Ahl objected strongly to what was here proposed—that
in addition to a Civil List already amounting to upwards of 1,000,0001. a
still further addition of 124,0001. should be made, and that ton out of a se-
cret fund, without b. ing appropriated by Parliament. He submitted an
amendment, which he did not wish however to press to a division. , That
instead of applying to Parliament when the excess rose to 120,0001.
the application should be made as soon as such excess amounted to
10,0001.
A division .being now called for, the gallery was cleared, and the
numbers appeared to be 100 for the Clause, 33 against it.
The other clauses being then read, the House resumed, and the Report
was ordered to be received to-morrow.—Adjourned. •

• • TUESDAY, JAN. 28.
Mr. H. ADDINGTON moved for an Account of the whole number of
Local Militia-men in the country, at the periods of the last returns, dis-
tinguishing the numbers for each county.
Mr. ViruART ON btought-in a Bill. fOr !ranting a Sum for defraying the'
expenses attending the assumptforrsof the Regency, which was read a-first 1
time. He.also brought up the Deports of two. Bills authorising the sum
of 1,500,0001. and 10,580,0001. to be borrowed on Exchequer Bills.
which were ordered to be read a third time to-morrow, and then tn—
grOssed. ,•.•
Mr. SINcLAIR stated, that he held in his hands a Petition from the
Freeholders of the County of Caithness, praying for Parliamentary Re-
form. This County returned a Member to.rarliarnehraltern,attly with
the'Courity of Bute, from which it was very far distant,. and:,it *Mild
have no-Representative in the ensuing Parliament. The defeet in tlfe
Parilamentafy Representation vas felt fronkone:e. cul of
,the kiegdotti tsx,
the other, from Caithness to Cornwall, and-established' the' necessity of
a tejnperate. Parliamentary Reform, 1.(.1feai...) .'
Leave-was given to bfing up the.PetitlOn, Viliick was read, and. Ordered
to lie on thctable. • • . ' •
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- frlpl.TgliOLD aILL. • •_ •
On the question thatithe Report ,of the Bill for the Regulation of the
Household tie brought ulp, being putt . .
Mr.. BROUGHAM had insupportable objection) to, the Bill pow before
the Mule, and did not think that'any alterations, }t boll it might have
undergone in the Committee, were at all likely to obviate them. .Theze.
were many particulars which called upon the House to pause. Was: it
fit to sanction a 'constant arrear*of the civil List expenditure of 120,0001:
above the estimates of 1804, 'without knowing one Item of these arreara,
whltli'ihey were about'to sanction ? If thie:greowing'arrear was to •be
sanctiowd b.) the authority of "Parllditient, theY.wele saying that the
arrea sfticie.l/1041adbeen justly isacurred. because they svotild have no
other stage for taking the matter into consideration.' Ile drop vigneitno
some particulars respecting the arreark of the Ciiillist; and asked the-
louse to consider how different was altogether, the condttv. ge,erA.4
thelleeond ? During the reign of that Prinee„the .House 'vied a Civic'
List of 7(,0,000I, ; for which they settled certain fonds, alidguarauteedi
that if th.ise funds should not be stifficient, the deficiency walla Instil:tide.
good by Parliarnem% There was no bargain respecting any ov.erplue.
After the expiring of 'au years a defiiit of 4i O,pool. of those ftintlehadoe-
curred. Thiszum was accordingly made good by Parliament. .It hap-.,.
penes, however, that these funds in time inereased beyond the estimate.,
and during the remaining 13 years of his reign There was a surplus Of
115,0001. How was this staples dealt with .by this honest and
.con--.
ecientioui Prince ?It was not considered as private property—it' wal flo'
laid out in the purchasing of lands,. as might have been dOne-zTliut
allowed it to accumulate, andpaid:ovCr the sum to the E'xcbequer,.for ,
the relief of the people' from whom it .was'arawn, as well as the, moat
of the Droits.of Admiralty, which had accumulated, after Ole of, Atte
most tnd surces=fel wars whiCh was ever waged to the, glory o(,,
any people--tifenr!) He did not think of laying out any part of this:.
sum in the purchase of freehold and coliyhold estates.. (Rear !
repeated/y.lmin the-Chancellor of the Excaegner.) 'The night lion. Gen-
tleman seemed to be so mightily taken with dr precedent, that he world
advise him to a repetition of it,'at ktime.when'therivhs wrench greater
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occasion for it. -- • •
Mr. RosE observed, that he perfectly agreed as to the propriety if
enquiry; and the adoption of the present Bill would not prevent,it.
Gra. ting money to,p.ay arrears of Civil Lists, without enquiry, wai'not
new t it occurred in the reign of Qeeen Anne., and severattiireein the
=jails of Geo. 1. arid , - • •
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thought it would be proper, that alTpersoniholdiiig ti
the King's Household, should be excluded froniPirlia--
tt. red into a review of our Parliamentary history frotrelhe'
les 11. to prove such a regulation necessary to keep the in-
Crown within bounds, aiht to preserve.tia- purity of• Pa-
r Gt3itleman said he should submit a niotiotio that
fut.ure-tiay. , He strongly reprobated the appointinent of
in, who, he said, had not claim to a single shilling of pub-
-I.lly services he had performed. .
uar defendeti the appointment of col9neLlVl'Mahon; and
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obieiv'ea; if the only objection to-the•abolition of•the.offiee was; that he.
was appointed to it, he (Col. M.) was ready to resign It immediately. •
Mr. PERCEVAL then proposed a Clause, giNing to the Prince Regent
the privilege of suing for debts, ard being sued for some, ir the sane
,manner as his Majesty, which was added to the Bill. The remaining.
Clauses were then read and agreed to.
The Report was then brought up, and the Bill ordered to be read a'
third time to-rnorrow.—Adjourned.
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WEDNI SDAY, JAN. 29.
The 1„500,000I. and the 10,u00,0001. Exchequer Bills' Bills were read a
third time and passed:
Mr. Loden/slur gave notice that he would, on Friday next, submit a
motion to enquire into the capacity of Members of Parliament, becom-
ing bankrupts, to sit and vote in that House.
Mr. Secretary RYDER gave notice that he would, on Friday next, move
for leave to bring .in a Bill to amend the laws respecting the Local
Militia.
Sir Josh NEWPORT, after some observations upon the necessity of
ascertaining the population of Ireland, moved for leave to bring in a Bill
for taking an accouge of the population of that country, and of the in.
crease or diminution thereof.—After a few words from Mr. Ruse, leave
was given.
Mr. RIDER observed, that there was an order of the House, made in
pursuance of the motion of an Hon. Baronet then absent (Sir F. Burdett,)
for okoducinga list of police magistrates, with their qualifications. He
conceived the latter part of this order extremely objectionable. There
Was a law now. in force, which subjected any man to a. heavy penalty
who filled the office of a tiagi,ttate without being in possession of cer-
tain'qualifications. And as some of the present magistrates might not
now have such qualifications, he thought it would be unjust to require
of ihem to niale,such statements which might be produced as evidence
against theM, in.gise of a prosecution for not complying with the statute.
He thererore moved, that so much of the order of the House be ree
scinded.
A dileussion *f some length ensued on this proposition, Mr. Whit-
bread, Sir John Newport,' Mr. Horner, and others, maintaining that it
wisthedeter of the Flouse to see that no, man did the duty of a magis-
trate, without giving-sufficient security fur. the due performance of the
, .same.• The House divideid on the motion of Lord A. Hamilton, that
the debate be adjourned eft Friday, when the numbers were—for the ad-
journment, 21 ; againit it, 58. Mr. Ryder's motion passed without a
division.
Mr..ISERCEYAL then moved, for a list of the MagiStrates acting under
the Polic:e Bill, with their original qualffications.77Agreed to.
The Prince Regent's Grand3ill was yead a second time, and come
-.Mitted fOr Friday.
The King's Household-Billwas- read a, third time and passed.--Ade,
Jou. rned to Friday.

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FRIDAY, JAN. 31.
• Mr. MELLIsit presented;a Petition from the Licenced Victuallers of
teinsion and Westminster, praying they might be allowed to produce
evidence before the Police Committee, On the subject of the severe
losses they sustained daily, in property by pots stolen.
• On the Motien of Mr. Perceval for the third reading of the House-.
hold Bill,•
The Hon. Mr. BEN N Uri:, after oberving, at considerable length,
:that thine persons who were Servants of the Crown, would be ex-
liernelY improper persons to he representatives of the people, their two
duties being incompatible with each other, proposed a clause rendering
such' persons r.s should hold offices in the Household ineligible to.
have seats in Parliament. This, after a few words from Mr. Perceval,
was rejected, and the ill read a third time and passed, and ordered to.
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the Lords: . . • •
•• • • BANKRUPTS IN PARLIAMENT.
LociOtAirryin•.ktipg to move for a Committee to inquire into
eapaCity.of Members pf Parliamebt becoming bankrupts to sit and
• Vote in the ItuSiof; Con2nions,, said, although the cikcumstance of a
l;an 'rapt iti.tlie,gouse.at. all was,
.in his opinion, very much to
be'reprobatedv•yet it was npt on that ground that he founded his present
Motion ; but by the, statute of the 9th of. Anni.,, it was required that
persons "tO qualify themselves. for seats in that House should prove
they possessed a.prcperty. of 4001. pper ann." This qualification must be
lest upon i';peisisu);Oconntig a-bankrupt, and wanting that qualification
he became urictoable of voting, and.his,election was :void. There was
nothing '§aiel,l•Adeed, of the election ofanother person in the rotkin of
him whosilitia becalm Incapacitated but, no. doubt, if his election
becidie.yold, it. would, follow that, another; eleCtion must take place.
The Honourable Meniber ,then adverted, to, the, Statute of the ,ith
and sthGeo.ill. insUring • the privilege Of.Pai.b4rne,nt to any Member
••Who should become a liabkrupt; but Ahaktl.coiltd.ionly be intended to
preserve to them their whildt they..iretiimed:aheir seats, but
coold not be construed to mean that ,theti4luiuld,setain their seats to
the end of the then.pdstitigParliatuent. .c.Ocluded, by movinjs
" That a Cotntnitiee be appointed to inquire ,if, ally and what persons,.
being Meinbers of that House, becominii,bailki•Upt can sit and vote
,thereite 7 ;
Mr. Piiii,Eva.r. said, the Hope Nag obliged to tile. Honourable
for friting tirooot. this subjesetfory,rara4 hut, however neces-
sart Witt* that Ow.. sUbjtct .3110pld .`d'eside tiy AO of kw-ha-

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