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in consequence about 9,001'1. a year. This he deemed a
subject of serious complaint, and one that called loudly
for the interference of the house.
1 he Marquis of LONDONDERRY stated, that on a
future day Ile 8110111 d be prepared with the amplest expla-
liatiOns.
Mr. 'l'. WILSON said, the subject merited the serious
consideration of the house.
Petition ordered to be primed.
Mr. HUME moved tot retort's of the sums received by
the Iltitish Consul at the Brazils, as complained of in the
petition.—Ordered.
Mr. BANKES moved for (and they were afterwards
presented) annual accounts and estimates of the Rakish
Museum expences.—Oithaeci to be reterred to the com-
mittee of simply.
Dr. PHIL! IMORE po.tpnned the committee on the
Marriage Act Amettilitiem bill to May 3.
STATE OF lI:ELAND.
Sir J. NEWPORT rose, putt suant to notice, to bring
outward his motion for an address to his ;Majesty on the
state of Leland. He said he never rose will greater cm-
bat rassinent than he hit on the present occasion. He
now ;note titan ever deplored that lie had failed to excite
attention in that house to the subject of the state of Ire-
land, the condition of its population, &c. Had he suc-
ceeded, perhaps nastily of those evils that now grieved
them a uuld not have attained their prose tit height; but
the motion that he should tow make was nearly sand:trio
its terms to his motion of lalii. That motion was sup-
potted by three able advocates; two of them (Mr. Pon-
sonbv and Mr. Giattan) lad sunk into the grave; the
third (alr. Plunkett) still lived—but lie was taught not to
expect that able person's assistance. (Hear.) He should
endeavour to be as lola as possible, but he trusted they
would bear with hint while lie traced sonic of those causes
which had led to the degradation and disorganization of
Ireland. The natives of that country, wherever they
went, were respected ; but bow came it that a! home .11
was disorder?" It was for the legislature to trace the
causes of so disastrous a state of things, as well as to
supply remethis. (Hear, hear.) Ireland, however, as
yet, had little to rejoice at the union with this cottony.
Seven milliuns of people had to lie governed, but how
acre they governed ? instead of governing by uniting
them, the principle of " divide anti govern" hail been
adopted wills fatal success. That result had followed
which it was frightful to ront emplate. Taxation had enor-
mously Met eased; the gentry were broken (loan, and all
respect tor the proper authorities seemed to be gone.
Penal coiles and fsightful systems had destroyed the coun-
try, even without alma oval the Exchequer. Such was
the harvest of discontent, that the iron grasp of the tax-
gatherer was paralized by the iron hand of poverty.
There was indeed no harvest of revenue, as he had anti-
cipated. The right lion. hart. concluded with moving an
address (similar to that proposed in IOW) to his Majesty,
to (Erect that the situation of Ireland should be taken
into most serious consideration, and praying that if oilier
measures were required, those of a tranquillizing charac-
ter, rather than proceedings of coercion, should be tried ;
and assuring his Majesty that the house would co-operate
in such Illeastires as did not proceed on the principle. of
coercion, and as were deemed calculated to restore
obedience to the laws, and respect fur the constituted
authorities.
Mr. GOULBURN opposed the motion, on the ground
that it aliplied a tell.t!te 041 the Government. He cup-
chided with moving the previous question.
Mr. S. RICE supported the uriginal motion, maintaining
that it was taut meant to convey any censure on Govern-
ment ; it did nu such thing; and lie thought it was calcu-
lated to ba productive of good to Ireland.
Mr.C. GRANT spoke against the motion. Recollecting
what was the state of 1re1411,1, and Litowieg how itijm ions
would be the result of adopting any mutant that eve', indi-
rectly censured the Government, he could not support
the motion. If the qitestion went to a division, he must
vote for the amendment; but he hoped the impolicy of
pressing the question at a moment like this would be seen,
and that it would be withdrawn.
Mr. ELLIS, of Dublin, scald, the present disturbances
of Ireland had their origin in cettain transactions of the
year I 514; and lie was convinced of one fact, which he
de tied any one to deny, and that was, that all the distur-
bances, all the agents, all the rebellious, were Catholics ;
not a single Protestant, whatever his distress :night have
been, had been found engaged in any treasonable prac-
tices.
Mr. PLUNKErf rose to reply to the last speaker, and
strongly deprecated the attack which had been made by
him on the great hotly of the Catholics of Ireland, as
tending to produce the most mischievous effects and con-
sequel' sta. With regard to the system of police and the
magistracy of Ireland, lie could assure his right hon. friend
that those subjects were now occupying the serious atten-
tion of his Majesty's Government. Tim system of edu-
cation had Mien received the attention of the house, and
malty measures had been passed with rrgetd to it; whe-
ther all the beneficial tke's which had been yawl:tea
laud testified from those measures, he would not pretend
to say ; but he was sure that Guyer 'tat would readily
give its attention to any propositions which might be
brought tarward on the sithoect.
Mr. PEEL said, titer: use which the debate hatl taken
rendered it unnecessary fur hint to trunble the house at
any length upon the present occasion. In a hat he
had to say, lie would abstain from making any aliusiou
to the Catholic question ; and lie thought that the right
11011011181)1e baronet (Sir John Newport) had acted
wisely in refraining fawn making any reference to that
aitestion in the address which he sabillitted to the house
tie haul aatl I:clicht !o be connected with the Govern-
ment of Ireland fur nix Yeats, and be should consider that
he would have been guilty of a great dereliction of duty
if he bail pet milted (hat terin to elapse Without bestowing
his most serious attention to all the subjects to which the
right honourable baronet hail adverted. Other matters,
to a Melt uu 81111.1811 had been made on the present
occasion, bad some years since been strongly pressed
upon that considerait too of the house, and he appealed to
the right honourable bartmet, %sheltie& those snlijects
aid toil (down the gravest atietaien lawn Cioveriimeut.
lie itad rnmcutred with the light bum member for the Una
vessity of Deaths, iii Woking that the tithe system was a
solace' of great daticulty awl Jaeger. The gear ral conduct
ante clergy of Leland had been much misunderstood end
much utistepie,catect. Their forbearance wan, in all immures
matt ex ; WAd litai vet y eilaarainauce, iu has ;on,
would oppose Oil Lot
...jet:Ill/1i to aity measure of cinumutatimo
or tithes; fur the ;mulls. who %vie iblCodetll to he beaelited
on such:it pia.:sJiia; imam mot tamusette: ..uute hardly de tit

with than they siert under the present system. Alien u few
farther observations on this point, the eight hon. gentleman
.nuclailed unit entreating the Itnehe In rem savetiedswith tint
declarations which had been made on the part of Govei n-
mem, to reject the address of the right hon. hart.
Sir J. NEW PORT then rose and suid, (hut after the ex.
plantations which had been given on the part of Government,
and particularly the pled,,e *hid! had been given by his
right lion. friend the A ttornty General for Ireluild, whit had
tin own oil upon the Ironbled water:., that IltenlinfeS fit the
relief of the petiole of 1. eland were under the consideration
of Government, he would not pets his 'notion to it d' • n.
Ile thought it itecustury to deny that he intended, by bia mo-
tile, to convey any rt Ileetion UllOll the present Governownt
of Ireland. If the motion had been of welt a character, be
would have been the Let Mall in the House to propose it
He had !A:iced uirtm a former occnsi.ni, as he did 110 W, that
that he placed the fMlest confidence in the noble Minima,
at the head of that Government, but it did not necessarily
follow that he must place the !tame antplit it reliance upon all
the other members la the cabinet. Ile was happy that lie
bail:called the attention of the House to the tutnect, ranee
it had been the UCCetaUll of eliciting a declaration of the
intentions of GUYS:Millen(' st Inch appeared to loin very sa-
tisfactory.
Tile motion was then ne.qatived without a division.
Upon the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER, the house agreed to adjourn, upon its rising,
to Wednesday.
The other milers of the day were disposed of, and the
house adjoin tied at one
WEDNESDAY, ArtilL 24.

As the order for calling over the House stood for to-day.
the gallery was not opened till after four o'clock. The gal-
lery stairs, however, were ciowded at an early hour, told
stun after the opening of the gallery it was tilled.
Sir J. NEW PORT duriog our absence, we understand,
moved that the order fur the call be discharged. Ile stote.l
that his object had been to secure a full attendance of 1111'111.
hers, and as his object had been answered, there was titi tic.
casion to continue the order.—Motion agreed to; older
discharged.
Sir G. HILL presented a petition from the me►chants of
Loodonderry, praying fur the imposts' of all additional tax
on Ghee-e awl 'litter.
Mr. DAV EN roar supported it, as by our heavy duties
on salt great injury was done to the domestic trader, while
advantages were given to the foreign manulacturer.
P. Gitlin ordered to lie on the tublg.
Sir It, SHAW, at the request of Lord Londonderry, who
was absent on account of illness, postponed his motion ou the
subject of the Irish Window Tax till Monday next.
Petitions, eoinplainiog of agricultural distress, were re-
settled from the Eastern part of Sussex, and Flintshire.—
Read, and ordered to be printed.
Petition, against the Irish %%below tax, were presented
from the cities of Dublin and Cork. Oidered to lie of the
the table.
Sir li. SHAW again postponed his motion on the subject
of the window tax fill this day week.
LICENSING Sgsarm.—Mr. II USKISSON presented a
petition from persons in the *trinity of Reading, praying dust
the trade in beer might be sit free. He hoped the selject
would be wlou investizbled. He had seen many letters
tin
this subject, particularly from Reading, where the licensers
were brewers; that established, a complete monopoly. As
to the proceeding of the brewers in London, he was suety
not to see any mesubec in his place connected with that trade
if lie had seen any one he should have Irked whither there
was :my intention to lower the price of potter T That pi ice
bad been lost. red in the country; and it there were 1111 in-
tention avowed to lower the price of porter in London, then,
whit the support of the Ilouse, he should endeavour to curry
into effect that plait at vi filch lie had helore hinted, to pre.
vent the Loudon brewers from deriving all the benefit result-
ing from the repeal of the malt tag.—(Cheers.)—Hut he ex-
pected that ::enal proceeding would be rendered unnecessary
by the Landon brewers, though tardily, mitering the price
tit porter, lau as to meet the reduced prices of the malt, 6cc.
Petition read,
Mr. LOCK!! ART said a few words, expressing himself,
as far us lie mulct stood him, in favour of opening the trade.
'Air. G. BEN N was also favourable to the opening of
the t r ides Why might nut that trade he asllpCll as the trade
of :misers, &r. 1 The only thing that had 'untied him in
the coasideration of this question was the immense quantity
ut property already vested in public houses.
Mr. I lUSK ISSON was glad to see the member for Wey-
mouth ( qr. BUYL011) in his place. Perhaps lie would state
a lien the public might expect a reduction in the price of
porter.
Sir F. BUXTON could not exactly my at what particu-
lar
period the reduction in the price of porter was likely to
take place ; he could, Imo ever, state, that it would be Fool
—and io such a minter, us to be satisfactory to the right
hon. gentleman. With respee t to another subject that had
been observed upon, accordieg to a hat lie had understood
since he came into the House, lie meant the opening of the
dude, that would be in his estimation, a great advantage to
the public bre*, el s. Those persons, it most be remembered,
were nut we only owners of public house, there were
many publicans aho were trotters of the houses iii which
they resided, or haul paid a good deal on going tido the
I it* occupied by them; and to moat the trade would cope-
I rate on theta as a confiscation of their property. At on e
to open the trade, would be one of the harshest nicasuics
adopted.—Petition ordered to be printed.
Mr. VENISON presented a petition fluor the tanners in
the neighbourhood of London.
The CHANCELLOR of the I:cur:gut:it said that
he could uot, at the preseut rounitait promise any reduction
of this tax.
Mr. CA LCRA FT replied, that was the observation ap-
plied to eat ry tax complained of. (!!tear, hear.) As he was
on his legs, he V 1 011 id ask whether any measure was iu con-
templation regarding one-pound country book notes, which,
au cording to esi,tiiig Live, was soon to tra•e.
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER stated; that
Ile should have se commuunatioo to make uu the subject iu
the course of a few days.
Petition ordered to be printed.
Mrs Tlll4ooollli 1100 K.—Mr. G. nEN NET gave notice,
that to-morrow lie should move fur further papers respecting
Mr. Theodore Hook. Ile should then also put bI.IIIIC
(V11.16011:10 ou« of the ministers connected with these papers.
Mr. BENET presented a ',claim; from Salisbury, in
favour of Mr. Mut, a lier-e '• adioniible conduct" it tel.,-
gir-d in language that ...celled some laughter in the House.
Pet.lion ordr el! to be prided.
Ex EN IN Al u.—Mr. LITTLETON presented a pe-
titans fi4:l, ..itirOtjs.lllle, complaining of thin systew of lx-
routs Its aid. The hen. motisber stonily coudetoucd 111:

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system, contending it wa: of most Per ere operation ; it was
also frequently must unjust and partial. It was ruinous to
all parties—except those iiiimedfidely benefited by the
extent and it destroyed all confidence. Ile hoped the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, if ke veined the commercial
interests, and the maintenance of loyalty in tile commercial
and twinufarturing districts, would no longer sutler u system
of tapior mid violence to be carried on in the name of the
Crown.—( Hem •)
Mr. J. S:%IITH also strongly condemned the system of
extents in aid. They were frequently issued where the
Crown was not concerned ; could it he desired that su violent
a system should he continued ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
the subject should receive the amplest consideration both in
and out of the House. The diilicully was to make
alterations in this subject without inteiteriog with site ancient
prerogatives of the Op% 11. The Court of Exchequer, how.
ever, ails perfectly competent to interfere in any case of
marked abuse.

Mr. W. SNII7II condemned the system of extents in aid
in the strongest tei tit.. Ist ./ tomo, he thought, could persuade
it Oterlf, after sending the report on ti.e suliject. Ilea the
sy tem one which ought to continue. lie dclied till
I..tur to the proof, wit, titer throe was one of the extents
issind within he last year where the interest. of the Crow!'
cut HI any wt y coucertied. Petition cut at ually tottered
to lie on the table.

Some °thee petition, were presented, and several of the
tilde's were afterwards disoosed of, which comiderahly
delayed the main motion that stood on the warn.

MF. HUNT'S SENTENCE.

Sir F.III.II2DETT, at an advanced hour of the evening,
(the gallery however still continuing very full, and the
gallery door locked), brought forward his motion for an
address to his Majesty, to remit the le:mining portion of
Mr. Hunt's sentence. He took a review of the treatment
which Mr. Hunt had experienced, and said it was most
unworthy of the parties ct.ucetned is it. If it were not
placed beyond all dispute, much of the conduct that had
taken place would hardly be believed. It reflected such
diaeuedit OH the magistracy; and what could be thought
of such magistracy, whet' it was remembered that clergy-
men foamed portions of it? What, however, be now
asked for, was au act of slow but requisite justice. Mr.
/hint had already experienced more punishment than the
court had intended to heap on the prisoner. He asked
not for mercy, lie asked not for indulgence; all lie
ieynireJ was justice, although it would now be ad-
ministei ed in a tardy manner. The hon. baronet, highly
comp:imented the Mriititile and perseverance of Mr.
Hunt, and said that the greatest benefits had resulted,
and would remit from the exposures accomplished by Mr.
Hunt, And from the sufferings that individual had been
most unworthily exposed to. As to the conduct of the
visiting magistrates, particular)), of thin Hey. Dr. Colston,
it was most extraordinary. Rivas no defence to say that
the magistrates had no pay; if there was to beim) re-
sponsibility because there was no pay, then lie would say,
let the magistiates be paid.—(Hear.)—As Mr. limit had
suffered more than the court had contemplated and
awarded, and as the court had interfered as tar as it
could, lie thon4lit the amuse could not object to his uno•
tion. He emorloileit with moving all addiuss to remit the
retnainder of Borth b sentence. _

Mr. DAWSON opposed the motion, and commented in
strong teams on the conduct of Mr. Hunt, whom be de-
scribed as living iu adultery, and otherwise deserving, by
his conduct, all the restraints under which he had been
placed, and all the severity of the regulations which the
magistrates adopted towards him. Mr. Hunt at une time
himself thought differently of this gaol ; and it was hut
till his conduct bad drawn on biro some severity and re-
straint that lie changed his opinion of it. He also con-
tended, that Mr. limit had at all times experienced all
the indulgence which his own condect would allow of.
Mr. 11011 HOUSE defended the conduct of Mr. litint,
and strongly condemned the severe rules adopted towards
him, lie agreed in all the arguments brought forward
by his laou. colleague, and gave his %rainiest support to
the motion, which the house would du itself honour by
adopting.
Mr. DICKENSON ►abutted the charges brought for-
ward by the hon. hart. and his colleague (Mr. Hubbouse)
of cruelty towards Mr. Hunt. He denied that Mr. Hunt
had ever been subjected to soltary imprisonment, and
contended that all the restraints to which be had been
subjected originated in his own conduct.
Mr. TELL would not agree to this address. lie con-
sidered that to sdupt it would be a most dangerous and
most unconstitutional interft rence with the prerogative of
the crown. lit declared, that such was his upiuuu of
Mr. Unit's guilt, that no comideration, nut even tire re-
street he had for the decision of the house, should they
adopt this motion un.tuiuwusty, should induct hint to re-
eotramend to the clown to remit any part of his sentence
Alter a long debate, Ilse mutton was negatived.
house adjourned.

TIIPRSDA V, APRIL 2.i.
The Speaker was enabled to take the chair at four
o'elm k its cuitsequeuce of the atteudauce of opposition
members ; w•e did not at that time observe one member uu
the miui.•terial Hide of the house.

Petitions se' re presented trout Cornwall, Fastcrn part
of Sussex, Salop, Rothe' ham, Barnsley, Radnorshire,
and Len-ester; complaining of agricultural titsucss.—
Ordered to be printed.
Mr. RA MSDEN presented a petition frern iinddersfi Id
against the bill permitting the importation or nool:en
goods fur the purposes of txpintaiium—Ordered to be
printed.

Mr, M %UEULEY moved fur accounts of all clei Ls who
have limn admitted to mill offices, aunt 151.., to the lot
ed January last, and of all clerks discharged since the
Period. dklinguishing names, ages, &c.—Ordered.
Sir R. WISON moved lur vat tons papers respecting the
excise proaccutiuns for aching breakfast-powder. Ile
adverted to a prosecution that lied been comet need fur
s. Mug " Broma," some Ileitis that were considered of
medicinal value but it was colistdered as imitative of
breakfast powder. Sat ely the revenue did not require
the support of ouch pruseentioc%
Mr. LITSIIINGTON said, that the subject was tender
the consideration of the treasury, end that it was iiitentled
to riopuse a plan for icsuing licences for the halt- of such
Inlieltsb, concluded however in such terns* u* to protect
eseiseable ai ticks. - l'apc u s ordered.
Mr. PF.I.H AM presented a petitisin from Lincoln, pray-
ing for put liansentary reform.
Sir It. 111:kON raid, that it was agreed to at a II reeler
I,lo..liste, whit tie the parties properly aohsensbled, not sup.
I,:ted with disloyal a.aea , hat ptucte dhoti .11; chhaire.t—