The National Register.
London, England, 1815-02-12 00:00:00

r; CI2NI.RES3.

Mr. WHITERFAD said, that as there was a motion before the
)lone, he should tremble them \1 ith a few words before that motion
was put.. As notice had been given for so early a day as the 17111 of
this month, of a new plan or fiaanee, he apprehended that the
affairs of Europa must have been defolitively settled. At least, it
minor points had not been completely arranged, yet, As the Chan-
ce llor of the Exchequer was about to propose important financial
arrangements, all the grand points hail been settled which had been
in eontrovvisy so long, and so disgracefUlly io controversy at
Vienna. He wished therefore to know, whether his Majesty's Minis
lets o ere better informed An sonic points than they hail been pre.
lions to the adjnornment of the House, on the Ist of December ?
whether they were prepared to disavow the proclamation of Prince
Repitin, of which at that time they knew nothing ? whether they
were aisle to speak with certainty as to the fate of Genoa, of which,
then, they had no information ? These matters were of course now
finally arranged and adjusted, so that Ministers were able to look
forward with security to the settlement of the affairs' of Europe, as
was evils rot by the measures 011 which they ha►t givial notice. He
,hould not speak of the disgraceful acts, it' acts they were (Hear!),
which had emanated from the Congress, nor of the disgraceful man-
ner in which the great st,bjects discussed there had been treated—
that it was stated that so many millions of subjects were elite to one
Sovereign, and a balance of 250,000 subjects to another Sovereign,
as if the Sovereigns were every, thing and the people nothing—as it'
the horrors of French revolution had made such an impression on
the minds of men* that no fantastic tricks on. the part of Monarchs
would shake them on their thrones, and renew those terrible convul-
sions which had shaken all Europe. But•it was most important that
thetionse shiudd know what arrangements had been snide at the Co-
ngress, and be thought there was no time so proper to inquire as when
notice had been given of a definitive financial atrang,ement.

Mr. VADZITTAII7C said, the remarks of Ike Hon. Gentienissi
Whitbrea.l), were not very regular, ss the question before

the Home was the Committee on the Bank Restriction Act, whirls
would hardly jastify the Honottrable Gentleman in entering into so,
whle a field of remarks and interrogatories. lie should however.
Tfunn the Honourable Gentleman once for all, that as his Noble
riend the Seeretary of State (toed Castlereagh) would very soon
return to his seat in that House, from Vienna, and would be able
to give a full explanation of the artangeoneeta which had been made
he- (Mr. Vansittart), should, befeee his arrival, abstain from
(nem eting any que,tions relative m arrausgemesitismade at the Con-
gress (Hear, hear!), and he should state, that in declining to
anew er any questions whiffs might be pot by Honourable Gentlemen,
lie was not infinenced by any personal disrespect towards them
!Hear, !tear!).
Mr. Witrreagan lola, that he had only to remind the Rig4t.lll-
- Gentleman, tleit before the Recess they hail been promised,
not only a full explanation whits the Noble Lord returned, bat that
when the liohse tnet attain, even ir the Noble Lard was.not re-
turned, all thing, should be e‘plAined to thew (Hear, hear I).
Mr. l'osiosini said. that the question wilds was then before
the House, as it affected the whole finaneiefsystem of the century,
and consequently the ina'nner in which ell money was expended, it
was not irregular to infinite as to the arrangement of the affiiirsof
Elitape. If the disclosure of the state of piddle affairs was to be
deferred till the return of Lord eastlereagh, why were not the
financial arrangements also deferred till his return? They were,
however, on to-htortow 'testified, to enter upon the consideration
of the filsanelat arrangement*, while they were entirely ignorant of
-the state of EuroPe. • He confessed his did net feel this so strong a
difficulty as other peeple taught feel it, for it. his °pitiless there was
but one course for the Heise to pitrone,--la calibre as fast as
.ilste pnblic„ expendititre (Hear, hear !)—The state-of the coun-
try
and the heppinese of he 're* ;gloated it (heat
ertions of the peoplilltrd put an egd to tie property lax, lie hoped
a "continued manifestation ef public Aiiitsion would produce greater
benefits, and oblige hlinisters to reduce the public expentlitare,.to
the smallest• watt. consistent with the honour and dignity of the
coil t 6 (I fear, hear !).
The nnition was carried.

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Mr. Ti Elt NXV requested some explanation fee n, the Clumeellor of
the Exchequer, as to the new plan of Finances, 'which he hart
announced his intention of bringing forward on rriday next. and
also whether he proposed•to lay any vapers on rte table, and of wirat
nature illustrative of hit; object ? He (Mr. 'l'.) requested this infor-
ntatiou, in order that other Gentlemen might be afforded au opportn. •
nay of considering whether any. and what farther papers might he
necessary to the House, with a view to the due understanding of the
wul►ject.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCUFAVER said, he was eid that the
Right Honourable Gentleman had pot this question, because it
'afforded him au opportunity of correcting the Right Honourable
Gentleman's misappselben.ion of his object ; for he had no intention
of priiposing any new plan of Finance, nor of entering into any
general details that mad require previops
ting any nirastue

Mr. TIERNEY
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to bind the judgmcut of the Haste.
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Tax. If so, then the Right Honourable Gentleman must have is,
view• some new plan of Finance; some provision fir the supply of
the year, in lieu of the Property Tmx. •Oti a measnre-pf sMeb!nags,
nitude, he thought it obviously necessary that the House should be
furnished with some previous information as to the Right Honoural
Gentleman's views, before it was called upon to decide.
Mr. VA NserraßT declined to enter into any premature explanation
of his object (hear, hear ! on the Ministerial side), but he would
r► peat, that the measure which he had.in view required im previous
Inquiry, lint would merely consist of a resolution, founded upon an
ordinary statement, by which resolution, however, he did nut at all
propose to lie the judgment of the House.
Mr. PONSONBY it impossible even to•guess at the Right Hon.
Gentleman'• object, from what lie had thought proper to state. He
ished to know distinctly whether it was the intention of the Right
Honourable Gentleman on Friday next to enter into the general
establishments of the countby, or to state the probable expense of a
permanent peace establishment.
Mr. VANSITTART replied, that l►e had no intention of entering
into any•statement as to the peace establishment.
Mr. TIERNEY wished to know something of the nature of the

Nays and Means %%hid' the Right Ilanottrable Gentleman proposed
to bring forward, and what Vote of Supply these Ways and Means
were to meet.

Mr. VA NSITTART lamented that his object did not appear intern
Bible to the Right Hononrable Gentlemen. His view was simply
this, that as he had no intention of proposing the continuance of the
Property Tax, he meant to submit a Resolution to the House, that

another measure of financial supply was necessary.
Mr. WHITBREAD thought it extraordinary that the Rieht. Hon.
Gentleman should think tho House necessarily obliged, under
existing eirctinustanets, to resolve upon providing a substitute for the
Property Tax, which, according to law, mil4t conclude at a certain
period after, the conclusion of the war. Such a tax, should not.
ofconrse, require a substitute. But he wished to know from the
Right Honourable Gentleman 'when that arrival was to take place,
which must necessarily gratify the Right Honourable Gentleman's
mutual anxiety to seal his month in that House, upon questions of
general policy ; at what time the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) was
expected, and whether he was likely to be present on Friday next ?
lie also desired to learn, whether the Right Honourable Gent!,.onan
i..temled on Friday to enter into any general statement of the
Enances of the sear; whether he proposed to bring forward what
was commonly called the Budget ?
Mr. BA,txd eetteeived, that it was not too much to expect some
explanation of the Right Honourable Gentleman's views, in order

t :.at the House should have the means of forming an opinion before
it was carted upon todecide. It Certainly appeared extraordinary
to apply to the BMW for the adoption-of any Resolution upon an
important meant.e of nuance, without, affording it any opportunity
evions consideration respecting its merits. The Right Honour-
able Gentleman 44 no_doubt, said, that he did tot propose on
ri lay to bring forward any permanent arrangement, but still it
must be inconvenient and disagreeable to clap House to he called
upon iu a harry, and without any previous infstimation or inqniry, to
decide as to 111 measure of such conseqnonce as the provision of a,
substitute fin. the Property Tax.
Wittipsotioy observed, that the usual course, on propoqn;
Pi *fit ploantro of fifostacc vial to state the accenity whit!):

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called for it, and the objects to which its produce was to be ap-
plied. Hut the mode of proceeding announced by the Right Hon-
.oltrable Gentleman was altogether new ; fur he proposed to call
upon the House to vote an important Financial resolution, without
stating how or whether any financial supply was necessary—without
stating what amount of naval or military force it was proposed to
maintain—without stating what the expellee of the future establish-
ments of the country was likely to be. Such a course of proceed-
lug he had no hesitation in pronouncing as totally new and nupre.
cedented, and he would appeal to those who were experienced in
the practice of the House, whether they remembered any case
whatever in which a supply was voted without any explanation
of the object to which it was to be applied ?,
Mr. VANSITTART said, that he required no farther cot:Hence
from the House than was usually_ granted to persons in his situa-
tion (Hear, hear ! on the Ministerial side); and that if he should be
found to propose any vote contrary to the usual practice, he would
abide by the issue, lie concluded with repeating, that it was not
meant t'► pledge the House to any financial. measure by the rests.
lution which he propose] to bring forward.

Mr. VANSITTART gave notice of a motion for IVednesclay next,
respecting the exclusive Trade of the South Sea Company.

Adjourned.