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THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

Mr. Wesruet4 thought that the Committee had not Riven the
Subject that extruded investigation %stitch it desereed. They
Lad lint eeatineed one moot-grower-- hut they had received
the evidence of wool-stet 'ere, awl collet a. nhu were interested
hi vr !big the fawn to remain us they. were ut 'Herein.
Mr. illirtt GriAm asked, what did the Report disclose? A
fact alio+ ie. persist: had ever denied ; namely. that the agii-
tee arm ear net oreusiencel by the low toilets of moot
who : .1 ever earl it vi as so tweasioised ? Who had ever
4 emit of such au assertion ? On the contrary, those who con-
intrrt d the ugticuitnisi gut Piqua had monotony ugreid in stat-
hog. that were it n it fir the high pike %%hie h noel brute:let
during thy last ten y ears, es agiteultural distresses %%mid hate
been ten time, greater than they were. But thee there wets
together etolllieleration--14 ae this high price likely to continuer
o:tlees for clothine 100 or 110.000 men acre now executing in
"fie Vuileshire market, and certainly influenced the plies
AY lieu those orders wets' finished, yodel uny person entopole
that the high price. by which whole districts bud been literally
kept any e, moiler the pre-sure of L eiteral ugriculiitrul distress,
w (mid contems so tiivoarable to thu'r counties as they had pre-
viously been? Or were they tot rather to belie% e, that, by and
prime of must article would fall, in proportion as every
other lotteries of prodece was reduced in value? Important
ets this branch of the subject was, they had nut investigated it
fat all.- They hod not, in the course vt their impertial coasider-
Ation of tins euojeet, examined a rilugle wool-grower—the whole
evidence was that of ti tee!-sta piers and woollen tuentifactitrers.—
This was acting in a manuer wholly ex puree. Ilia moon for
stating his sentimeitts at the preseut moment was, because,
from the manlier in a hick the Report was drawn up, he felt a
SHOW( disposition to prevent its being laid on the table• in
order, if the tot nee of the Donee would permit, to have it re-
ferre d back to the Cominittee,to eneble them to discharge more
ful:v the duty that had been confided to them.
Mr. Ceeeasrr considered the present discussion irregular.,
because the merits of the Report were not yet before the
Utilise. His Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham) had held ex-
traordinary language, as to the conduct of the. Committee, anal
Lad laid down extraordinary rules for the guidance oe Com-
meittees• in fientral.—tie said, u Committee ought to
nu matter whether such an examination appeared to be iteces-
eery or not, every part of every subject refereed to them. He,
on the contiary, would maintain, that there was a discretion
given to every Committee, to ineestigate it subject us far as, in
their own judgments, they might dc•ciii necessarry, and they
were not bound to proceed an inch further. He was con-
:viewed, alien the House saw the !apart, and the evidence on
which it was founded, aide,' his Learned Friend treated as if
it were no evidence, they would be of opinion, that the Com-
mittee had encouraged a ;test and fair iuve•sigation of the sub.
Ject, and had gone us far as the necessity of the case ',maned to
require. Before he went Mei that Committee, he tilt s. lonely
against the agitation, nf the goestion at all ; and what was Ilk-
glow& in the course of the inquiry, rendered this opinion, that
this was the worst moment diet could possibly be selected for
di:nothing the system by which the woollen trade was regii•
liced, still more ilecided.
Lord el irrne concurred in a great part of what had falleu
from the Hon. Gentleman who load last spoken.
Mr. haulier: coincided in the opinion of the Committee.
No necessity existed fur altering the s relating to the wool-
.len bade.
Mr. Tnonesoe applauded the conduct of the Committee in
su..king a speedy snort, which would leant to allay the agita-
tion created throughout the country, by the consideratiou of
the question.
The CH eecgzeon of the EXCHEQUER considered the present
TEEterME, Arnie 30.
discussion as extremely premature. It aas an extraordinary Sir F. Beane-re presented petition from IO,SOO inhabitants
course of proceeding to debate on the contents of a Report, of of Iristui ~
Ipraying for t Melanie:Mary Reform ; the petition
a hick, not has leg been received, the House could know
was ordered to lie on the table, but no observations whatever
mottling. were made upon it.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM defended the course adopted by the
A collo:creation arose upon the projected Waterloo Moon-
Clannettee. tin time first day of their meeting, it was dis-
ment, the probable expellee of whieu was enquired by Air.
tinetly stated, that the wool-growers should come forward Tierney.
to sliew she necessity of an alteration in the law, but not on t
The CHANCELLOR of the Excmeecen was unable to say
of them appeared. It was then suggested by Gentlemen lio
what would be the amount of expellee' as at present the de-
wow bound fault with the eruceedings of the Committee, that
situ
even was nut determined upon but as far as private opi-
the woolataplers world be the best evidence. They were.
Mutt went, the sum was likely to be from 3 to 400,00 iii.
accordingly called Hi and examined ; and nothing was yet
Mr. Tit:Keel thought that if only a couple of col ttttt ns were
offered, in contravention of their evidence. It was, therefore,
to be raised, one for Waterloo, and the ether fur Trafalgar,
an attempt to impose on the House, to assert, that no evidence
I°o,oool. would be sufficient.
was hefo: e the Committee. Mr. H eastenssav recommended the building of a Cathe-
Sir J. N I:wiener said, that no evidence, on the part of the drat —The subject here dropped.
agriculturalists, %vele examined.
Lord STANLEY said, the Cmumittee was in existence before LORD COCHRANE'S CHARGES AGAINST LORD EL-
Easter ; and.ctonsequentle ,it was in the power of the. agricul- LEN BOROLG H.
muralists to adduce any evidence they utieht think proper. It Lord COCHRANE moved, that the charges which he had pre-
was not a question with re: pert merely to agriculture, but one emoted to the Hoene against the Lord Chief' Jiistoce of the
of general pnlicy—and the Committee ft It it to be their duty King's Bench be taken into consideration by a Committee of
to enquire how for, by an alteration 111 the woollen laws, the the whole House. He observed, that this was a qmestion
eonntry could be benefited. They foetid, so far from the which was not to be decided by ingenious arguments or ele-
growers of wool suffering any distress under the present system, tiotnt reasonine, but sionaly, upon a plain coucatenation of
that they were all perfectly satisfied with their prices, which tarts; mid the House owed it injustice to the parties iumeedi-
were higher now then they had been fur many y ears. No ease ately implicated, to give it the must serious and patient loves-
having been made out, to show that the agrsculturalists load a tigation. He declared himself able to prove every charge by
eight to complain of the preeent pi ices ut wool, the 1111 l twee each evidence as could not be resisted. He would prove, that
thought it was most prudent not to Meddle aOh the existing injustice was done to him on the ti ial; and again, in the re-
laws, And to close their proce, hugs as stem us possible ; lest by fusal of the Court to grant a new trial, when he urged that
an injudicious late& renee they inieht seriously lejurd the several farts, most immanent in themselves, were not produced
woollen trade. in Court when the cause Was tried. He them moved -" That
Mr. FINDLAY was of opinion that the committee acted the articles of 4:beiges against the Lord Chief Justice of the
properly in closing their pi (Wet clings as wall as possible. King's Bench, of partiality, misrepresentation, injustice, and
law Revd was then brought up, and the Remittent/a was oppression, in the trial of Lord Cochrane, be referred to a
reed as follows : Committee attic whole House."
" Reeolved ThJe it is the opinion of this Committee, found- Mr. Law (son of Lord Elletiboroegli), In opposing the mo-
ea on the ut es ideeee melatise to the prices of tion, contended, that. notwithstanding tile long auemion which
Br;:ish wool, that no i'art of the agricultinal distresses arise the Noble Lord had been paying to this subject, and in spite
it the inasictlaiwY of whose prices—end lberef"re it Inn of all his glosses, there was nut one colourable charge among
expedient to make any alteration in the laws 'coating to the them all. He would not insult the House by a long examine-
woollen trade." non of the imputations against the Noble Judge. The minion
Oa the qtiestion " that this Report be laid on the table," could not be acceded to, unless the House were disposed
IIdr.THOUNTON said, %hell he 1% as al/Paint" on the Com- proty cr. friend and legalize conspiracy. Ile a 01.1,1 heave the
climacter of the Chief.lustice with confidence to the lienee,
place a .11 addito.nal duty ten the
snittee, lie was anxious to
Importation of foreign wool ; but the ev idetwe which had been trusting that it would give the negative of indignation to the
examined e ntire!y altered his view un the subject. motion.
Mr. F. Lewis said, hr had, in the Co immtee, propolted a Mm. Pottemsnv said, on a former occasion lie had thmigh
ditty of 3d. per lb. mi foreign amd imported. Ter, tieing dins the facts ciente:toed with this bei•oness but sufficient to jetedly
iinctly negatived, he conceited it was uttely useless tut hum to the expulsion of the Noble Lord from that House, and he still
stove any proposition of a similar nature. tleinglit so. Hut these considerations were not conucclud with
Mr, ititootatiArd said, the Report appeared to him to be of the pre-scot question. which was a lion on the imputed min.
So little value, that lie doubted whether it was atoll the conduct of the Lord Chief Justice of the King'e Beech. he
voted terrier of printing —lt consisted of a tittuBm, and a Sou could find no ground for the present charges.
sequitur. First, it set forth, that the agi ienbei et distresses The Attorney and Solicitor (Jeuela $ also opposed the me-
lee% e not occasioned by the prices of wool—no Person having dun at considerable length.
ever said they were—it twine agreed on all hands, that they Sir F. Bee I)ETT was of opinion, that sufficient gru 1111 l 1 existeu
all toiled relief, instead of doing injury; and then an inferenee for entci tairtilig: the clier-es„
era, drawn, allich was any thing rather than a legitimate de- Mr. li %IMAM espeessed an opinion that the House cool.
deietioo—nanwly, that, because, at the present time, the prier% nut receive. the a lisiges, yet lie believed the Solite Lord limo.
et. cool were not low, there was, therefore, no necessity for CPO. fle had entertained that belief, and nutlet% halt
Staking any alteration in the woollen laws. To legislate tinder occurred to make him change it.
the House rejected the motion; the Aye. M-
ike yr. Wane of daficulties was erieueuus (ranch was die only On a division,

objection that could be uttered against a revision of the usury
laws)—but now, a hen the market wee in a flourishing state.
was the proper time for remedying any detect in the woollen
laws, instead of waiting until the trade was depressed.
Alter a few obsery :Ohms from Id r..Thoroton, Lord 'Ascetics,
Lord !dawn, and Mr. Caleraft, the Report with its Appendix
were ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed.
Sir ti. Rini.xv desire d to be informed, respecting the ae-
coracy of a statement that come to his knowledge--namely,
whether several iillicti s coaneeteal with die Itritish army now
stationed in France, had not received very extended leave eft
absence, inconsistent with their professional duty. In one
iiistance, he understood that some gentlenien were permitted
to go to Goilege to prosecute their studies; v. Wist another, a
Major. was actually now engaged in the tom of Europe, in
company with a young Solilenian.
Lord PALMtIieTOM said, that the power of giving leave of
absence was not compiled with his department; conseiinent-
ly he could not answer directly to the proposed question.
Perhaps, however, when the Hon. Baronet spoke of somegen-
femen being permitted to prosecute their globes at College—
he meant tile Military College.
Sir M. Homey replied, that he distinctly understood that
some had gone to We University of Or.ford, and others to Caul-
bridge.
Mr. PEEL observed, that the discussion on a former evening,
relative to the 0:1:ce of the Clerk of the Pleas of the Exchequer
in Ireland, having apprised the House of the object of the
measure lie intended to intioduee for regulating it, it was on-
necessary for him to enter into a detailed statement respecting
it. it was a 'natter of nutoriety, that the office had become
vacant by the death o‘the Larl of Beiekinaliamshire; and that
the House bad previously resolved, on such an event, to make
that oiliee a subject ut inquiry. When the Earl of Bucking•
hamsbire died, litany questions had been pea in that House re-
lative to the intentions of the Irish Government respecting
the office; and lie (Mr. Peel) had distinctly stated, mat he
would immediately carry lino efiect the w ashes of the House.
Since that time the Chief Baron of Me toad of Exchequer in
Ireland had arrogated the power of nominating to the office;
the principal and deputies were sworn iii, in the Court of Ex-
chequer, and were now actually in iittice. Ile did not mean
to interfere in the question by legislative measures, Wit should
leave it to be tried by the proper tribnual, the courts of law.
As. however, great delay must arise in dutermiteng the pies•
don, as the emoluments of the offices were very great. and the le-
gality of the fees ettreniely donbtful, it became a question,
how the pmfits should in the inierini he disposed of. It'
the Crown were to appoint a person to the office, as that per-
son could be named for the sole purpose of tiyhig the right,
be ought to receive none of the teas. There might, how .. er,
be no necessity for such an appointment ; as proceedings had
been instituted against the Chief Baron's appointment, to
decide the right as soon as possible. His trivet. the was, to
impound the fees of the offices, anal to compel the persons to
account for them every quarter; leaving to the Irish Govern-
ment a discretionary power of making any compeusai ion they
might thilik proper to those who fold/ the etnties of the offices.
lie was aware that a epiestion might ariscas to the propriety of
iiiterfering with a sested right-4 Cries of Ito, Pio! ) —hut its
the le;,ality of the fees ss;s very qiie.stionable, he did not think
that such an objection could be mole in the present instance.
The Right lion. Gentleman concluded by moving for leave to
bring in u Bill for securing the profits of the office of Clerk of
the Pleas of the Exchequer in Ireland, while the right of the
possession was litigated; which, utter some discussion, was
granted.—Adjourned.

MAY 6.

'listing merely of the Noble Lord stud Sir F. Burdett, and the
Noes of n 7 ; aud, On the motion of Mr. Ponsonhy, it was re.
solved to expunge the Articles of Charge fruit the
Laid Cochrane, un this motion, übserved, that, ..s none of his
charges were refuted, posterity would judge of them, inde.
pendent of the opinion of that House; and he pledged Irroirlf
to bring the business forward year after Year, awl uu all occa•
sinus.

WEDNEPPAY, MAY 1.
SeVCrill petitions were presented agai❑+t the Leather Tax;
also front the land-owners in respect to agricultural distreivies;
and from the Cuunty of Essex, against the Insuis ent. Debtors'