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army; instead-of that expenditure being moved as at pre-
sent in three distinct estimates—one for the army, another
for the Ordnance, and another for the Commissariat. It
HOUSE O,F LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) is proposed to combine these three estimates in one, so
that the House of Commons and the country
may see at
The LORD CIIieNCELLOa took his seat on the woolsack one view what is the whole military expenditure of the
at five o'clock.country for the current year, from a statement drawn up
in a
simple form, and easily understood by ell. Its will
- ,
The Earl of EGLINTON presented a petition against
the grant to Maynooth. further be the duty of this ()ulcer, having conveyed the
orders which he may receive from the Secretary of State to
The Earl of DERBY presented a petition against the the different branches, tp see that those orders are revs-
total abolition of church rates. . lady -carried out, and, for that .purpose, each branch will
Lori S --ND YS presented a p_etifion from Great Yar- be called -on, to. keep a table, :and -to- enter- in it the
.
raeletlaePrltYieg for a comprehensive measure efeldraini
es_various Orders Which it may, reemve._ _A. up mate will be
trative reform. -..-, . ' --- - --- kept in Ilie- office of 'the-Secretary ,of Stale; in-which he
- The Marquis of LINSDOW&E presented a petition will-note the ordere issued upon particular' da•e-s; I by-
jtablesof the of
church rates. - the various branches, he will be able, by a comparison
with his own, to see at once the manner in which his
THE VIENNA CONFERENCE. orders have been carried out, and where there has been
Earl GREY gave notice that-he intended to_postpone delay or mal-execution, and thus will be able -to dO that
the motion for which he had given notice for Ililotede? ' which is now found to be so difficult; that is, to elites, the
next until the following Friday:: He-did this with great saddle on-the-right horse. These, are the chief duties which
regret; bufit was to prevent the question being debated will appertain, to this new officer whom we propose to ap- _
in both houses the same evening that be had assented point;. and nose I come to the existing offices in the civil
to the postponement of his motion. - admimstration of the Ordnance Department. I may say,
my lords, that-when this new arrangement, comes into °pea-
ARMY REFORM'. ration, howeverthese offices are filled now, all re-appoint-
.. I will
lbneotthe say head
e xp
, ofr tui thee n
t, differentt,utra
h terce branches,
scheme—may
CONSOLIDATION OF THE CIVIL DEPARTMENTS. ments will be made with the view of appointing the' best
' Lord PANMURE, in rising, according to notice, to make mn t
a statement of a plan for the consolidation of, the civil de.
have every chance of success. My-lords, there is one Office,
partments of the army, said—l have now, with your lord- and only one, with regard to which° I find any diffi-
ships' permission, to address myself toa question, or rather tufty in drawing the line of demarkation between the
to make a statement most intimately connected with the military and civil departments, and that is the office of In-
administration
of the affairs of the army; but I feel it is spector-General of Fortifications. As regards the planning'
of fortifications and drawing up schemes of der
VW,the
impossible to refer to a military subject today without
Inspector-General of Fortifications will be tinder the autho-
rity of the Commande-i-in-Chief; but, as regards superin-
saying one word of congratulation in connection with the
scene which we have witnessed this morning upon the tending the buildings of fortifications, or the erection of
parade of the Horse Guards. (Hear.) This is the first works of defence—that is to say, as far as regards the car-
occasion when the Sovereign, the fountain of all honours tying
out thescia. contract, he mill be under the control
ot-tne Secretary of State. Ido not anticipate that any
in this country, has condescended to distribute those practical difficulty will arise from this arrangement, and,
honours, not simply to men of high birth holding commis- indeed, Sir John Burgoyne, who tiow so unexceptionably
sions in the army, but to the humblest soldier in her ser- fills the office of Inspector of Fortifications, foresees no diffi-
l( .
vice who has shed his blood in defence of her Crown and tufty in continuing t
which is proposet
o hre.n render his valuablel
mseareyiacteastue,nmdeyr
of the country—in defence of her honour and of the the new arrangement
lords, that lam now dealing with a class of officers who
honour of the land which gave him birth. It must have must, for the public convenience, have offices in London,
been a gratifying sight to your lordships to witness so and, if possible—and I hope that in a short time it may
many brave and distinguished men receive these honours be so—under
the same roof as the Secretary of State.
to the Director-General of Artillery.
at the hands of their Sovereign, and I trust that this will Inow come
At present that officer is appointed by the master-General
be a solitary instance of such a- glorious scene, and of the Ordnance. The duty.of the Director-General will
that it will have the effect of inspiriting the youth of this be to advise the Secretary of State for War in all matters
country to come forward and enter into a service in which connected with the materiel of the artillery department.
they, too, may distinguish themselves and receive similar The Director-General decides as to the mode of arming all,
rewards to those- which have been bestowed to-day. With works which are erected by the Inspector-General of For- '
tifications. He has to inform himself as to the number,
these few remarks, I now proceed to make the statement
n
of which I gave notice, in the first instance, for Monday nature, and condition of all guns, mounted and unmounted,
last. My lords, lam uot eorry that the delay which has in charge of the Artillery, in all parts of her Majesty's
dominions. That officer is ex officio president of what is
Unavoidably stirren hasiaken place, although I am
.quite
called the " Scientific Committee," and he superintends
prepared to make that statement on Monday. The the introduction of all changes. and improvements in the
changes which I am about to submit to your lordships are
not of a character which require tha interference of any materiel of the arsenal. Hie office, therefore, must be
legislative act, but I think it would be only respectful close to that of the Secretary of State, because, uponall matters relating to the materiel of the artillery, he
to your lordships and the country that no material changes must give the Secretary geueral advice. The next of
should take place in the administration of the army those high offices is a new one in connexion with the
which are not plainly—at least as plainly as I can state
them—laid Ordnance. Inasmuch as the navy makes great demands in detail before your lordships, with a full ex- for stores upon the Ordnance' Department, it has al-
planation as to the manner in which they are to be made,
and the effect they will produce. In dealing with this ways been thought necessary to have a naval officer
subject connected with the Oninance for the purpose of giving
, I must, in the first place, guard myself by saying
advice in all matters relating to navalgunnery. At present
that I have no intention whatever of reflecting in the the officer who holds that appointment is Sir T. Hastings.
smallest degree, either upon the official character, or upon
I propose in future to place the naval officer in connexion
the official zeal and exertions of any officer connected with with the Director-General of Artillery, and he will be
that department to which it is my purpose now to allude.
called the Naval Director of Artillery. He will be charged
I' mean to deal with the system, and, if I complain of any.
with superintending all the improvements which may be
thing, it is the working of the system ; it is not the officers
introduced into the naval gunnery of the country. He will
who have had the conduct of that system, which they could
there be in a position to make his voice effectually heard
neither alter nor amend. Nor do I propose to find fault
in all questions of arms, and in all suggestions that may
with mere routine. I perfectly agree with the noble earl
be made for improvements in those matters. He will also
opposite who spoke the other night (the Earl of Darby),
make himself generally .acquainted with all the different
that no public, no official -business could be conducted n
stores which may be under -the charge of the Ordnance.
this country with i
out routine. A well regulated routine
mud he will be in immediate communication with the Ads
advances public business as much as an ill regulated routine
miralty, so that no time ma be lost in equipping ships,
rase, Is it. (Hear.) Without, therefore, a simple and well
when the hour arrives for their equipment, with such
regulate I routine in all our official departments, we should
materials as may be furnished from the Ordnance. It
have confusion instead of that simplicity which is desir-
is essentially necessary that that officer should be a mem-
able, and which is one of the chief objects in the transac-
bar of the Scientific Committee, and be will be ex
tion of all business. My objection to the system of the officio a member accordingy. The next office to which
Board of Ordnance is, I am afraid, not confiead to myself
I shall allude is that of the superintendent of stores,
individually. During the six years in which I had the which is, in my opinion, entirely a civil, office. Although
honour of holding the office of Secretary at War I was
those stores may and do consist of articles for the military
accustomed to hear such objections, and I found during
service, yet I conceive that very great benefit will be de-
that period that the delays which occurred in the Ord-
rived from placing at the head of the storeeeeper s depart-
Hance Department—though no faul whatever of the
went one who is thoroughly acquainted with the elassifi-
officers of the Baird or of the other officers connected with
cation of stores, with the mode of receiving them, with
teat department—l say I foun I that the inconveniences
their custody, with the manner of keeping accounts, with
which arose and the delays which occurred in that tic-
the system of issue upon mercantile principles, and also
partment were great obstructions; in the way of the
with that of which I am afraid many military storekeepers
military administration. Every commission that has in:
are entirely ignorant—namely, the mode of taking stock
quired inte the administration of the army has made eel
upon approved commercial principles. I remember being
marks to the same effect. Committees of the House of
upon a committee of the House of Commons when the
n qhuaivree d
alsol nt o
come
question was asked, whether wo had any thorough and
eartmoythaendsatmhee
perfect knowledge of the amount of military stores
Ordnance Commons
administration which h
conclusion ;and yet, my lords, no Government has up
which were in the different storehouses belonging to
to this moment undertaken to adopt any system by which this country at home and abroad. The answer was, that
the administration of the Ordnance Department might be
avei
amended or improved. It appears to me, then, that the it would be extremely difficult to ascertain the amount ;
and, upon the question being put whether it would
general opinion is that something ought to be clone to aim- not be perfectly easy to take stock of the stores, the
piify the civil administration of the army. But a goes
answer was, that it would be almost impossible. I think
tion arises as to whether the present is a convenient time th it that is a branch of the service which ought to be con-
fer making any large or extensive changes in our military ducted upon the most approved commercial principles. It
administration. It has been hinted, if it has not been will be the duty of the storekeeper to have a thorough
broadly stated, that during a period of war changes to any knowledge of the mode in which the business of his depart-
extent in the administration of a war department would went is carried on. .He will have a great number of
be likely to prove inconvenient and to interfere with the deputies under him, and he must from time to time, by
conduct of the war. Now, I confess Ido not share that
persopal inspection or otherwise, ascertain the manner in
opinion. It appears to me that if improvements can be
which his deputies at the different-stations are conducting
made in any department, more especially in one connected his business, and he will be responsible to the. Secretary of
with military administration, there is no time when it is
State for the entire conduct of the storekeeping depart-
so incumbent on 118 to make that improvement as the
meat of the Ordnance. This is a department of no small
period in which it may be most beneficial and effective
importance, and your lordships may focus some estimate of
And; having satisfied ourselves that by the changes
its extent when I state that theme are at present no fewer
which we propose, no interruption will occur in the
than 90 storekeepers, with salaries varying from 13(3, to
military serviee, that the supply of all the materiel of war
803/. I hope that vr© may be able very considerably to le-
will continue, w th, perhaps, limn speed and more accu-
mince that number of storekeepers. The next officer is one
racy, while that materiel will be fully as good in quality ; whose duties are almost entirely distinct from the Board of
having satisfied ourselves that no diEmulties will arise out
Ordnance, namely, the superintendent of contracts. Ido
of the various changes which are proposed, her Majesty's
not know with what truth it is asserted, but I. hat e always
Government have resolved to make those changes with as
heard it insinuated, that the contract system of the Ord-
little delay as possible Itis proi3osed, in the first place, -nance has not hitherto possessed the confisience of the emu-
to abolish the INfaster-Genera.l ard the Board of Ordnance,
iwelfickhierryistv,
Int
rtb,rsandit country.h mercial world ; and I think that I might, if so disposed, cite
instances in which it had not worked well for the purpose.
altogether. It is quite -true that the Board of Ordnance
and the office of blaster-General. is, perh.aps, one of the
I have heard it stated that under the present system many
of the roost respectable business firms in the country have
mtirili:riFeeesuttimslshment of the State a far declined to enter into competition, said to make tenders
when contracts have been put out by the Ortinanco for
higher rank and distinction than of late years it has been
articles which they might have supplied. It is not my in-
acustomed to bold. The Master General and members of
tention to inquiry how that state of things has arisen; but
borne
otorhsniten ancient
in the
etdnhatet dates
nstilobi
the board hold their appointments by letters patent un-
the remedy seems to be to establish a branch which shall
der the Crown, and, therefore, no other step is necessary
have the superintendence of the whole of the public contracts
than for her ajesty to dictate a !evocation of those let made for the armyor the Ordnance. That is another branch
tens patent, upon which the Master-General and the whole which is purely of a commercial character; and I propose
Board of Ordnance cease to have any existence. The only to place at the head of it as good a,coinrnetet l gentleman
as IShall be able to find for that purpose, who has the eon-
liament will be required to ren ler, assistance is to enablewho will be, I
fidence of the commercial world, andhope,
question arising out of this proposed change in which Par-
in the Board of Ordnance under an act of Par that vested . . emphatically a " right man in a right place." The duty of
the Secretary of State to hold the lands which are at pre-
into the other that officer will be, as I have stated, to make all contracts.
liament, which will be introduced shortly He will not interfere with the execution of those contracts,
house. Now, the Master-General and the board being
but he will have to enforce their fulfilment, and to take
abolished, it becomes necessary to deal with the whole
any measures that may be necessary to effect that object.
establishment conuected with the Ordnance. Your lord- I now come to another department with which it is abso-
sh
ip s are aware that this consists of two departments—one lutely necessary that the Secretary of State should have •
relating to matters which are purely military, and the
immediate communication—l mean that which is to super-
other to matters of purely a civil character. The matters
intend the clothing of the army. There is `no department,
which are purely military are the commands of the Rio it s yat .
in my opinion, in which it is more essentially necessary to
Artillery and of the Royal Engineers. These comment
take steps to secure a proper administration than in the
is proposed to vest in the Commander-in-Chief , f the army.
furnishing of clothing to the army. Until within the last
I have never yet been able to understand why the Cohmemehatue-f
year or two the clothing of the cavalry and infantry was
der-in-Chief of her Majesty's troops should not have t furnished by the respective colonels of regiments. There
e arose a very general objection to that
_system; indeed, it
cavalry and infantry. (Hear.) There can be e Ef,
Very
relieved
so general that two years ago the Secretary at War
relieved the colonels from the duty and responsibility of
commandth e t
fro
fears wellof t the
ef theoom
command
Artillery eorfy
the
ed
Artillery
noesleryditaesi
uoift thein
t int-Qu clothing the regiments, and took that responsibility upon
there is a Deputy Adjutant-General and an
belonging Qua- the Government. That may have been a very proper
ter-Master-General, entirely and exclusively
neers to the Commander-in-Chief, because in thee Artilleryg
o of
arrangement, but I do not believe that it will be found
that force, who can conduct the military administrationer.
altogether a profitable one for the public. It certainly
by the Mass
2 clothingtchl same
i disadvantages)titshielllfiurer,tnettigslishnlesnOtbiewthheicaho Nvveirlin mnoetu t .
will be more convenient for the colonels, but there were
exactly in the saute manner as it was conducted
there is a
that branch of the service under that Cotumand in-Chief,
ter-General of the Ordnance. In the same way,mm many advantages (although there might have been at
communicating
his orders ti-saccruei n
o tnh e
whenthe
0 colonels
tnthehel
the
it the orders of
withDepu
the
,13%.1j ut
Commanderant- G c.
tour a.
el onfi Engineersef
nou d who,eonr ecyo
that corps precisely as he now conveys to. hand, there are, no doubt, advantages which will result
which did not arise under the old system. In the new
Governments who. from the clothing being undertaken by the Government,
arrangement, I propose to constitute a superintendent of
member of
theth
tehl a s
opportunity,ter-Oen e r atin..
dealing
u withwould i b e
twhreo wrong in me
it
tf
isl otmembershmeitetoeoodf
the Ordnance, of stating to your lordships
current opinion of every officer as e ell as of
clothing.' The effect of this appointment will be to do
meritori s occupation, and they will be of no use, to the public after that
who have taken away with_ the board of general officers. They will have no
o v
wither nei
re o[l ,o
wa and
Rossof oatnhder
SirG oevvjee.rnry
Burgoyne in
nowun
tf
orm system
ean snhea 1 la
dboept
ed brought
,or in
altered,topr practice. itcne .a n
yNwo
apya
deviatedtterns of
hthheaervieMr mhajaiedlistttayer'sdyeGcapacity, that t woofficers 171(1
account of their scientific knowledge,
signified through the proper authority—and in future that
vice over which they have presided,
neverhich the artillery
upon Sir He
bore her Ma
proper authority will be the Secretary of State. In
from, except by the express command of the Sovereign,
greater pains to bring to perfection thesea branches of the seer-
accordance with such command, Patterns will be sealed
jesty's commission. The manner in w
The an ndi
With
otmh
ematd fitted
of t o
such the
professionalcustotl y e
athsseistcalnotcheinags dhi.
er e tor.may
was forwarded to the seat of war conferred
Ross the highest possible character,an and stamped ell
o one has conductewds
i ommotinrit..mTl:
trntiwilegehosf rareJohn(Bnunrge y
operations as chief of the engineer
department is equally choose to call in, it will be the duty of the clothing direc-
of the a rce tor, as the head of this department, to inspectall lth
well worthy of my humble testimony, and
My pp . C 0 -
tion of your lordships and of the country. lords, I ing materials before they are made u for the purposes
have felt that I could not touch upon this branch of the of the army ; and it will also be his &pt. t, •
be responsible for, all clothing afterly to ins and
subject without making references to the
beenservices of these
amilanonffiecre,ralosfo,a
two distinguished officers, who have the means of furnished, to see that it is properly packed, and, where
ofcessary, duly shipped, so that it may be delivered atetnhe
bringing the artillery and engineer departmentslthe army
to their present state of perfection ;but now will pass proper time to those regiments, both at home and abroad,
to the civil branch of the Ordnance Department. The civil which are entitled to receive it. It may take some little
branch of that departments consists, as your lordships are time to get into working order, but I have no doubt that
aware, of the Master-Geneial of the Ordnance, who is not the duties of this officer being efficiently fulfilled, the re- 1
- a member of the board, but who is supreme over the suit will be a system of clothing which will insure regula-
whole department, and wile
cancanapprove or disapprove the rity of delivery, and uniformity of pattern, throughout the
actions of the beard ;he also order the expenditure whole army, while it will enable us meter' allto • 1 imrove
the quality of the clothing, and thus remedy anevilwhich
of carry on the business of the department, . .
of any money
but all financial measures which he may order must be has often been the subject of complaint. That is one mat
carried out by officers of the beam. The next member is ter to which the superintendent of clothing ought imme-
therdnane • diately to direct his attention, for no man can
the Lieutenant-General of e, an office which . . ,
this look at
was formerly abolished, and was only renewed upon the the clothing of our soldiers in country without
i General, Lord Raglan, being at once struck with the very inferior nature
departure of the Maste -
in to assume
the field; of the material of which it is composed, and
the command of the army and then come the which
of therenders it liable not only to wear out
- Surveyor-General, the Clerkth Ordnance, and the sooner than
principal storekeeper: These four o me form the Board better clothing would, but causes the soldier
to suffer far
and I will now proceed to state to your lord-of Ordnance, than is necessaryfrom the more
ships what are the duties which these officers are called Those are the branches of the departments which it appears
The duties of the Master-General,to me it is essentially necessary shouldsit, Ifpossible,
as un-
stated to perform.
selectcommittee,der the same roof with the Secretary of State—with
stated in the report of a
are, in a civilt whose
transactions be should be a, •
capaci , 'ty to take entire control over the whole department. esteem. ed s because, if inti-
He has the power of doing any act on his own authority' ma ey t I acquainted w•tl th
1 1 em, having a general eye over
diture of money for their operations through th • 1 fli -- -
can order the exp in e the purpose . o cyst is, cers with whom he is
anddepartment, but that expenditure must be carried
a the communicationhe will
in , be enabled to see whether all the
out by the
officers of the board. The Lieutenant-Gee duties are properly performed, and he will be enabled
time when the Master-General is present in without much difficulty, whether in time of war or in
neral, at a
but in his absence he time of peace, to carry on the • •
this country, has no active office, .
o.euera
ly
i over the whole business of the board, army with something like a unity of purpose. There are,
E'es.7earti of the Ordnance is the financial member of the however, certain other departments which, though some-
board RD ,lit is his duty to prepare the estimates of the what of a military character, are also of a civil nature,
'
money require( • i fortheserviceef thetlepartnient, and to lay inasmuch as they are more or less manufacturing de-
them before Parliament, and generally to control and super- partments. In m o i •
y pas they are departments of
intend the expenditure of the whole department. The prin- manufacture, they ought to be under the civil contrcl
cipal storekeeper, as his Ctle implies, has the care of the of the Secretary of State, who is respomdble to the
itutnense mil
itary stores of this country,' of all the ordnance country that the articles they manufacture are not in-
ition and, in
• ages, arms, and amun , fact, he appears to
carte ,ferior in quality or pattern, or deficient in quantity
tue to be the officer of the greatest importance attached to for the use and service of the country. My lords, all these
Boardof Ordaance. These are the superior officers at pre-
he position they do at
departments will coutinue t i hold the
,b,,
er
..
tsent constituting the Board of Ordnance. Now, my lords, it present at Woolwich, or Enfield, as the case mop be.
i_,
c,erieten
is proposed, to abolish as I have stated, that board altogether, regard to Woolwich, the first officer to %%lpnnw___ -L!el
called
and this is the arrangement which we propose to adopt. your lordships' attention, is au officer who ill
Secretary of State for War •
We propose that the i . shall have the Superintendent of Ordnance. This officer, in the first
the supreme dii ection of and be responsible for the adeninis- .place, has charge,and will continue to have charge, of the
as
tration of all the business'of the department. Weproposo to manufacture of all brass ordnance. He is also charged with
shell received into the
place under the Secretary of State, for the purpose of carryingthat all the guns shot, and
seeing
out his ends and instruction, a chief civil officer The duties
of that officer will be to receive all orders with respect to the
civil administration of the army from the Secretary of
State to convey those orders to the heads of the different service are constructed according ig
adapted to the service for which
also have the proof
keep a correct account o
of all ordnance,
l'e to the pattern, and
they are required. He will
and will be required to
of all ordnance which passes through
d hen it
1 branches, and to apportion them among the members of the his hands, of the persons to whom lie delivers it,
the
had
of
over to the army. He will be at
I Administration. It is further proposed that this officer wa a
branch delivered the Arsenal
of the manufacture of ordnancte.atns
there,
shall be a member of theellouse of Commons, that he shallbut
tahWoolwich, and will carry on his p r
hiechehaasie hitherto been
then be responsible for all returns relating to the civil ad-
under a different systsm to that which
I ministratiou of the army, and that it shall be his duty to move urs tied. All these departments, my o ,
l rds are entirely
' in one combined estimate the whole expenditure of .the P
•