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THE FAILURE OF BANKS IN IRELAND.

The Marquis of LA WSDOWN *aid, that seeiiig the
Noble Earl (Liverpool) in his place, he wished to
put a question to him, whether he had received any
commuilic:ition from the Government of Ireland
relative to the failure of certsiu batiks in the city of
Cork and other parts of the southern district of that
country. lie understood that the grentest distress
prevailed in that district, on account of the failure,
and that the course of exchange had stopped, which
would put an end to the trade of that thrtrict. Our
batik its Cork, he was informed, had failed fur
250,000/. and they would not be able to pay more
than one shilling in the pound. What he wished
to be informed of by the Noble Ead was, whether
the Bank of Ireland had assisted 111 any wuy the
district with specie ?
The Earl of Ltvearoor. said, he was only in-
formed of the failures by general report. lie hail
however no hesitation in syisig, that when it
was repiirtel officially to Government, it should
have their full considerstiou, and every attention
paid it that *4O important a subject reilaired ; but
until the official report was wade 111.1 Mitiritl).6
Government could not set.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE deprecated the idea
of Government interfering ; it would be a prece-
dent of the worst kind. They hail no command
over the Bank of Ireland, and if they hail, God for.
bid they would direct that body to issue their mo-
ney without having security. In England the
country banks had failed, and although the Exe-
cutive Government was on the spot. they had never
dictated to the Bank of England.
The Marquis of LA NIIDOWN slid it was far (roe)
his intention of proposing any *pecan measure;

Mr. C. GRANT said, that Moisten had so inteatios to
renew it Om year.
Mr. liaLy then gave aotite of a mellow or the subject fur
Wrdnesdsy next.
The CHANCFLLOR or the EIICHWQOIII moved that the
Hume uu its fixing shuuld adjuura till Moltday.
SUPPLY.

On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
CHEQUER, the House resolved itself into a Commit.
tee or Supply.
Lord PALMERSTON, in rising to propose the Army
Estimates, would not troulde the House with all the
items, hut select a few, by way of shelving on what
principles they had been calculated, and would
hold himself in readiness to satisfy any inqui•
ries es to the remainder. The priocipal feature
of the Estimates was an inertia* of foice, and a
corresponding increase of charges. There was an
addition of 10,323 rank and file, and including
clficerr, of 11,074 men. This brought an additional
expense of 424,000/. The whole auto required for
this branch would then be 416,0001. out of which
363.0001. were for regimental charges. There were
diminutions alas. The clothing allowance for the
cavalry of Ireland had been put on the same footing
as that of England, which had caused a trifling di-
minution. There was, however, on the recruiting
services an increase of 5,3931. because the Estimate
of last year fell short of the teal charges in that
amount, and it was thought'best to make up for that
deficiency is the Estimates for this year. Ott the
other hand, there were, as he said before, diminu-
tions. The reduction of pay of Paymasters from
I!. lss. to I/. reduction of contingent 'la
lowsnees—the alteration in that of the cavalry
elothing—he observed b i I es on the faces of the
Ilan. Geatletu•:u opposite. He had only instauced
these item* to shew, that there was a real disposi-
tion to refillOMltle—(lltur, hear, from ike ()pima.
tiva)—and am endeavour to effect those retrench..
mesas, which, if not easy of accomplishment, were
generally• called fur with clamour by those Hon.
Gentlemen, and when accomplished were treated
with smiles and rid.cule. The whole increase would
be then 416,000/. There was a diminution ou the
col I staff of 13,1711. but on the home staff
there was a necessary increase. Two General
Oil-
ce:a had been added to the star of England, and

f increase. sane of distention. There
was a diminution of 1,189/. in consequence of the
'arrangement which had been made with respect to
the staff of the lonian Isles, the expense of which
would in future be 'paid out of the colonial reve-
nue.—Here the Noble Lord was again interrupted
by his indisposition, and it was agreed to postpone
the accounts, and proceed to the Estimates for
THE ORDNANCE.
W. WARD rose to move for various rums for
the service of the Ordnaoce, which would amount
altogether to 1,095,000/. There was an additional ,
expense apparently of 300,0001. but the real excess
did Dot exceed 133,0001.; the necessity for which
be would jastify to the House, by describing some
of the particulars of which it was made up. To
simplify the description, he divided the expenses into
three classes. The lit comprised all such articles
which have produced expenses, of regulations re-
commended by the wishes of the country and the
recommendations of the House; the id, consisting
of those absolute arrangements which have produced
additional expenses both in the ordinary and ex-
traordinary services, fur the purposes of keeping
down the future charges of their cleft ; the 3d
included those expenses, the increase of which would
be justified by the particular circumstances of the
country at this time. Among the first class were
10,0001. for the increase of the ordnance military
corps ; a small sum, not exceeding 10,0001. for
buildings and repairs of that nature; 3,0001. for
gratuities for increased service, and rewards for
good conduct in the civil offices. The greatest ad-
dition was that of the half-pay and superannuation
list, being 41,0001. out of which there were ex-
penses of no less than 18.0001. for broken periods
of service, which hod not before been entered on
the estimates of the periods to which they belonged.
These would not return again, and therefore the
reel permanent addition would he only 27,0001.
These charge! made up altogether 55,0001. and of
AWN abse• lhihalf of the excess. The second
Class of expect t% which had lucre/sled in conse-
quence of ands arrangements as lie had before
described, were confined in general to military
contingencies; amounting to a sum of 35,000/.
Expenses for bread, beef, and beer, iu allowances.
instead of those articles, 25,000/. Trigonometrical
survey', an item to which the House would scarcely
object, 6.0001. it had been the opinion of an ex-
cellent deceased officer, General Mudge, that the
trigonometfic4l surveys would repay the charges
incurred on them, if not in the first, its the third or
fourth year ; but as that had not yet been the case,
6.000 L would be necessary for that purpose. These
charges made up 52,000/. more of the excess. The
debt of the Ordnance had been guiug on without
being provided for; the nominal excess would be
40,0001., hut the real excess or the present esti-
mate would be no more than 25,000/. out of
95,000/. which would really remain, the difference
had been made up by the sale of old stores; so that
of the 60,0001., the real amount of the excess, the
only reel difference in the charges hoar the esti-
mates of lest year would be 25.0001. The expenses
of the third class were all real expenses arising from
loner such as had occurred from storm., and fires at
the Mauritius, Newfoundland, Portsmouth, and
other places; the expenses of removing arms and
stores, 4 or 5,0001.; plowing the depots of Carlisle
and Chester in a state of security, 11 or 12,000/.
Against these expenses were to be set the savings of
this year compared with the last: The present
Master of the Ordnance had carried into ef-
fect various reductions to a degree almost of
inconvenience to the public service. He had
suppressed nineteen establishments. averaging
5001. • year each; eight establishments in the
West Indies had been put down by him, and the
stores belonging to them hail become market
stores ; eleven establishments in Great Britain were
suppressed—these made a saving of about 5,90,
in the ordinaries. The estraorditiaries contained
some trifling increase which had been caused, by
not selling some of the old stores, money paid in
duties in particular umlaute'', amounting together
to between 11,0001. and 12,0001. He concluded
by moving, That the Committee should recom-
mend to the House to grant 293,6941. 8.. Bd. as
part of the services for the year MO.
Mr. Hume would not follow the detail of peni•
niters, but looked to the result. The object of
the House must be to see the total unionist, and he
marbled to compare it with the r. Mt" of
last year, the,,, if there were any excess, to
ascertain if the circumstances of the country
warranted it. He compared the estimates with
those of last year, and he found no de crease.
—ln 1819 the total ordinaries were 5/7,3971.
this year they were 548,0001. snaking a very con-
siderable increase. The extraordinaries for which
credit was taken (he wished the items had been
mentioned) were, in 1819, 2.20,8241.; in 1830,
280,3891. making • difference, as had been fairly
enough stated, of sixty thousand pomade. Th.
Irish urditaaries were its 1819, 101,000/. ; to 1820,
281,9861. Toe total excess of ordinary expenses
were in 1819, 819.2301.; in 1820. 940,680/. ; and
this had taken place, as the House were to beieve,
badge a management of the strictest economy.

niieionainitig the expenses before the 1. ri,r
total ex petters of 1792. were frwerdistaties. 431,27-a. ;
extraordiusries. 156.6201.; which. together with the
sea ordinaries. made a total of 496,4981. ari
'average of years, including 1793, the average of
these expenses was 310.1001. This was in a time
of peace. which. as the present, made up a period of
six years, during which peace bad continued. On
• similar average taken from the last six years,
there would appear an increase of 800,00 u/. This
was a very large sum, considering the state of
Europe. and that the House was constantly ussured
of the friendly disposition of foreign powers toward.
the country. A considerable portion of the exce,s
had been fairly caused by the increase of half.pay
and compensation allowances, but if those were
taken off, the remainder of the increase must appear
to the House and to the country wholly useless.
Where the reductions should be made could only
be known to those who were acquainted with the
departments. The salaries which had been ad.
volumed in time of war, ought now to be reduced at
least in the same proportion. In one of the Reports
of the Committee appointed to inquire into the
military establishments, it was recommended to re-
duce the salary of a Secretary, which was then
4,0001. to 8501. He wished to know if any thing
had been dune to enforce the suggestions of that
Committee, either in respect to this reduction,
or any of the others which were recommended.
Ile could not refrain from pointing out one or
two items which were calculated to excite the
greatest jealousy. The House would recollect
a motion of his respecting duties, which were col.
lected in large sums by Ministers, under the audio-
rity of the Crown, at Gibraltar. These duties were
' allowed for the repair of forts and the expenses of
the garrison and staff. It appeared that no less a
sum .than 170,0001. had beau remitted from that
place, and appropriated illegally, as lie contended,
to the Privy Purse. Now there appeared in the
accounts a charge for that very service for
which the ditties *ere granted of 74001. He
wanted to know why the massy collected ex. --
pressly, according to the Act, foe defraying the
expenses of repairs of forts and other charges inci-
dental to the garrison, had not been applied to this
use ? If there were any surplus, why was it not
applied to payirig off the arrears of those charges ?
All the expenses ought at least to have been de-
frayed previous to any of the money going into the
Privy Purse. He knew of no authority by which
Ministers were allowed to ioeldde the expenses of
the garrison of the lonian Isles. The Treaty of
Paris gave the protection of these Wes to the
sovereignty of the British Stales, with an express
stipulation that Great Britain) should be at no ex.
pense to keep troops there, though she was to
send 3,000 men for the protection of those Islands.
Why then were 3,0001. charged for expenses of
British troops in those islandi ? Wheu the House
came to the Military Eatimatea, he would chew
that the condition was admitted, that there were to
be no expenses for forces kept there. Another
item, which he wished to mention, was the menu.
facture of gunpowder, of which there were more on
hand than could be used in the next twenty years,
and yet there were 10,0001. annually voted fur it.
Sometimes it was sold. after bring manufactured
at 6/. per barrel, for 3/. or 4/. per barrel. Oiie
thing more he would refer yr. which would be
found in page 16. If the Duke of Welling-
too was really so anxious for economy. be would
ask, how it came to pass that our Matthew
Collins, after a service of only three years, had
been pensioned off? He believed that, accord-
ing to the SOth George the Third, Nliiiiraers had
pot the power to give pensions loony nervous under
ten years of service, and yet he foul tl our pertain,
• young man, after three years service, at a salary
• pensioned off with 451.; another, after four
'years service with 451., and another after five years
service, with 451., bensg mar of their previous sale.
ties. There were besides two of nine years service,
'at salaries of 1731. each, pensioned of. one with
the other, 87/. a year. The Report of the
Committee stated, that a practice bad crept in of
late, of granting pensious for periods of life
and service, which were not only inoonsisteat
with ecuuomy, bat with the practice and etas.
tout of the service generally. The Bill to which
lie had referred was, in eau sequence, bresght
in, and those politician; were, according to its previ-
sions. illegal. Ile was of opinion that a Committee
should be appointed to examine what further ve.
ductions could be made. The departments of the
various orders of storekeepers oug;it to be cosaoli.
dated. Ile. gave the Dike of Wellington the
fullest credit fur the acoomuy of reducing 19 este.
blismento, his Grace might, however, nave reduced
19 more without dinsinialling the efficiel,ey of the
service io the least. •
Mr. WARD thought that the Hon. Member had
been utifortunate in the instances to winch be hod
taken exceptions ; he was skis wreug se to MR
powers of Mr. l'erceval's Act, which did asst imply
to offices about to be reduced . like ilatee from
which the pensions which had bees. objected I*.edd
gemmed ; 451. as no great peartios inr a uplosiss
turning from the West Woes, situ* be *Wog
his health is the service. He hod liken pass ho