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London, England, 1809-05-21 00:00:00

IRISH DISTILLERY RIEL.

On the order of the day fur going into a Committee on the
Irish Distillery Bill, a discussion took place between Mr. But-
t-Mom), 11 r. Voster, My. Poitsenby, and Mr. W. Wynne,.,
The citiainittitl of the bill was opposed on the groom' that Sir
J obit Newport was--absent, and this objection was pres•eil to a,
division. The ninn;lers were„—forgoing into a Committee, ;
for,pocitpooing the Conimitter, t22;--7inajotity
The •Conunittee on the Bill was loistpanotl W Wedne,day
net urned. ,

Fridayl 11,ey 19.

IRISH TYT:tIES,

• Sfr. R rote and said, that before he broun.ht the
kubject of Irish T) thes.uoder the con4clerativo of the ?loom., he
s!iould move that the petition from the FreeholikrA of the fount y
of Kerry, pre,entect to this !louse in the course, of the Lod. Session,
shooki be 'low re;,(l.

The Cerk having read the Petition alluded to, %%hick repre-
sented in strong terms the hard-hips and oppressio9s to which the
petitioners Were exposed by the •oy stein of tyt king that prevaile4
in Ireland, the lion. Member proceeded to state, that besides
this Per i 1 ion , and that of the Freeholders of Q:reenss County,
before the !louse, £vveral other eeiunties in Ireland 11ad declared
their sentiments upon this subject, in equally strong term-, in
form of resolutions. Ile mentioned particularly the- counties Of
TipPeral.y, dare, and' Wicklow, all of which had formally
declared the necessity of some reforth in the manner of *collecting
Wiles in Ireland. His motive in thus specify ing 'these comities
was in order to shew that a general sentiment of hostility sub-
si-ted is Ireland agait.st this species Of grievance, and that it
was not any private motive of his own that induced him to bring
for Ward tihissubject. So general, he believed, .was the opposk
:ion to the tything system idlrelnuda that he would go so far as
to t•a v, that the clergy themselves %vete extremely anxious for
some reformation of these exerbltinit :Owes. wbicli were matter
of 'lei versal reprobation. These complaiuts, it uas necessary ti.a
lt).erve, did not proceedetitirely from the (:ietholies, hut scare
last as loud on the part of those %v ho professed the esta-
blished religion of the country as those wkie were Of the
Reiman Catholic pet sua4on. The Honourable Gent lerimu
then entered into a must affecting description of the
mal-practices so much to be detes'ted. He however com-
pletely exculpated• the clerX' • y themselves from any para..
•
ti OW, or even countenance in there oppressi,lll:., but allrrleut,
rd' them entirely to the exactness' or that class of men called
ty the proctors ; to to hom the clergy of the country were oblig-
ed, nimble themselves to collect the tYtlie personalty, to
entrust the collection of their dues. This neceity Originated
from the general poverty which prevailed ainongst the louef
classes of landholders, whose loud Clainpurs, against the impoSi-
lion of such a tax rendered it atitkost dangerous for the clergy-
Man lo attempt the collection or it ilialserf. j,a order to 13 hew
the general impolicy of tytheS, and a mode of taXatiim, he
qmited the opinions of Dr. Adam Smith, Dr. Paley,.isial Mr,
Thompson, whose sentimeins he ingeouously twilled to the mil
fortunate state of Ireland, and argued ill'ost eitrohi,-, that the'
calamities which have befallen that country du riiig the last. eleven
years,' had originated from the oppr'es'sive and galliug mode elf
collecting the ty thes. In order to' rentedy this er) lug evil, anti
a, a step to %yards a general comaination of wiles, one of the
objects of the proposition he t herald ihake to the itibll!.o woulei
be, that the inenintiept of parishes sheuild be obliged to grant a
lease of t weith-one years to the parishioners. This,,he was of
opinion; would prevent a reeurrelice of -siinilar.e;ause of com-
plaint. Ile was induced to ad:;pt this course, rasher than refer
:he subject to a Committee of the whole Howe, from appre-
hension that such it step would prove nugatory in its result. I-
thour.,:i the pr,,po,ilion he should have to otf. r i,ppear but'
a very limited measure, yet he must beg nut lobe updersteiod as
stopping. there. It was as much his w •h us any man's, It)
bring about the most general ameliorati so of the grie‘illlCeS
of Ireland ; but he thOught; as a prcliniiipiry step, this'
was tke most of all others to meet with the chicon.
ragement of the Ilwase. as persuaded he hennaed under.
arany disadvantages; but as he had pledged himself last Ses•
sion to bring forward this subject early in the present, he was
bound to fulfil his engagement. After a most able speech, lie
concluded by moving for leave to bring iu a Bill to enable the
ecclesiastical poweit of Ireland, including the rectors, &e. en-
titled to tythes, tA demise the saw for certititi yearly retith for
twenty-one years. •