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rally looked up to as the only means by which the
pour could be rendered more moral and respect:
able. Here, then, were instruments highly fitted
Tor the purpose, raised up as it were by Prove.
deuce and the institutions of the country, and fill.
ed with zeal and talents to be serviceable to this
cease. Were the House, then, fee the scruples
of the few who would object (whom he respected,
notwithstanding, and would do much to accoinnio-
date their scruple.),
were they to reject those power-
ful and honourable instruments so providentially
prepared for them, because afew persons found it
tiifficult to yield entire obedience to the religious
establishments of the country ? He would declare
; and he expected the concutrence, by and by.
of the Dissenters themselves to that cri ) i 11l on. lie
would propose that the clergyman of the parish
then should he invested with a subetantial said
overseers, degree of authority as to the choice
of the schoolnieter ; he meant him to be in.
vested with the power of pronouncing a veto on
the election. 'fhis was proper on another re-
count. The clergyman was the only person likely
to be able to judge of the schoolmaster's qualifies.
buns ; he alone could properly be trusted with
the power of judging of the question of "seri/ideas
literature." a question which might afterwards re-
qnire the interpositiou of the Ecclesiastical Courts.
The Visitor, the Archdeacon, the Chancellor. end
the Dein, all of them officers who might well be
trusted, were to have the power of examining the
master, and to them any complaint might be prefer-
red ag at list him. The master might, upon any one of
them vtiitiug end examinierg the school, be remov-
ed hut then an appeal was to be allowed to the
ordinary or metropolitan, and after more delibera-
tion, and sufficient cause being shewn for it, the
mister might be restored. As to the order of
visitilig, the ancient law allowed it to be done
privily, and for the same reason which made him
see danger in departing trout the forms of the
inatituriou on other occasions, lie would propose
that the visitations should still be private. The
visitor was to have the power of superannuating
the master upon not less than twoetbirde of his sa-
lary. Ity the 434 and 57th George 111. the dioce.
sort tY34 directed as to the mode and objects of his
si•irr. respecting the affairs of the church. It
vet ill,' require but a trifling form of words to give
them the seine power over the concerns of the
school. within the diocese. if any Gentleman felt
that ibis plan was likely to connect the schools too
closely with the church, he would contend, and
prove, by the regulations which he had to propose,
the the objection must be raised upon opinions too
squeamish to be entitled to notice. The schools being
planted, and the masters being provided, and the
insole of election, together with the necessary
clieclo, lie would next turn to the mode of admis.
soon, aud the plan of education to be used. First,
then as to admission, without proposing any qua-
lification as to the station or calling of the parents,
they were to be called on to pay not less than 2.1.
nor more than 4.1. per week. Suppose the average
tit both prices to be equal to 50 scholars, at 20%
per 'imam, that would make an addition of SOL
to the salary of 201. As to the pauper chil-
dren, there was no doubt the parish officers would
be very happy to pay for them, as they must
know tliat that would he the most effectual way ul-
timately of reducing the poor rates. He did not
wish, however, to have the spirits of the pour chil-
dren broken and humiliated by any line being
drawl' in the school between these children rod
thote of more happy parentage. He wished rather
that the school should have the effect of raising the
children of the poor to higher views than belonged
to their condition. Adverting to the eagerness
*hewn by the people of Scotland to have their chit.
deem instructed, he said that a friend of his had in-
formed him, that they would prefer the securing of
this object to the paying off the national debt. He
came next to the sort of education to be adopted. lie
proposed that the parson should fix the hours and pe-
'Lids of instruction awl their intervals. The Bible
was to be taught in the schools, and no other religious
hook, or any other book, except by the consent of
parson. No prayers were to be used except the
Lord', Prayer, and such as were to be found in the
Scriptures. He hoped he should not bring upon
himself the opposition of the clergy in this case, as
he load before drawn down that of the church on
ettother. But his view of the case was this : lie did
not think that the school was a fit place to inatrutt
a child in theology ; that knowledge might be air-
ceasary, but there were other times which the pa-
rents might use for the purpose. He would nut
therefore have the Catechism comprised in the (sub-
par, business of etlucatioo ; he did not propose this
as • measure of exclusion to any party or sect.—
Oa the contrary, it was intended to remove every
pretext fur withholdiiig children from the schools.
Ile would have the children taken to church once
eatery Supday, and that should be in the morning.
Those who ,vere best acquainted with the &spool-
looter of children knew well that they were nut
likely to be brotrglit to love religion the more for
bring coufined to 'Mend the church for four hours in
a day. If they went in the morniotkand were allowed
to divert themselvel innocently in the after part of
the day, it would be much better. The children of
Disseuters were to be ilioired to attend Seidl their
parents at any other places of worship., This, was
all indispensable regulation, as no honest and COW..
scientious Dissenter would willingly sitter his
child to go to church, stay more than a good church-
thiti would willingly eliffir his child to attend the
Roman Catholic worahip, tie took the experience
of nut excellent and zealots, individual. Mr. John-
son, who had shewn his as-fulness in various parts
of the kingdom. He was I (we believe the
Learised Gentleman said) the teacher of. the
great school in Baldwin's-gardens. That in-
dividual observing on the impropriety of set-
ting up any regulation to compel • conformity
With religious questions and institutions, said that
it tended so nitike the poor Anytbing-arians, and
tt.o often Nothingsarians. He (Mr. B.) was nut
one who would compel observance of religious
truth and forms, by starving the mind. auy more
titan he was an advocate for teaching obedience in
littler matters by withholding the food of diet body
until certain coosditious should be complied with.
Teaching the Catechism was, in fact, not teaching
ss to the objects of educatiois. It.u4bl be proper
for a child to know the Ceiechisin, but the common
school hours could be smock jietter appropriated.
There wereon the other hindAinses which !se,.ersitltl
Paint alit Tot thole on what t 'bout it was by any

leans the Catechism. The ethics"
Rion waete consist of:reading, writing, end arithmetic.
Having gone thrioNli so much of his subject (the
planting Hood endowments of the schools being
determilied on, the election and expenses of the
masters provided for, the admission terms and the
plan of cultivation adopted), he came to consoler
the fourth branch of the general plan ; namely,
making the old endowments more available for the
general purposes of education. He would sahmit
to the determination of the House the views and
considerations which he entertained upon ills part
of his subject ; there was not one tittle of his
remarks hut would be applicable to every charity
in the kingdom ; sod if the views which he
held were adopted and applied to each case that
might offer itse!f, it would redeem the pledge
that he had Kite° two veers ago, that the
plan, if properly acted upon, would rlu more to
settle the contentions respecting the properly of ell.
dowments than all the common law proceedings
put together. This subject divided itself into several
branches —lst. 'floe supplyihg of deficient trusts ;
ed. To eliabie trustees to improve their funds;
To enable trustees to improve the atoplicution
of their funds ; 4th. To provide for the failure of
objects for any of the endowments; Sth. To supply
checks for the security of the other four cousidera-
lion.. For the first, the observation* which he would
submit were gathered wholly from the Digest. Amid
here the Learned Gentleman, adverting to the mis-
understanding into which he acknowledged laiin.elf
to have fallen. with respect to the eniidUCt of the
Commissioners for the Education of the Poor, took
the opportunity of offering ties apology to them,
which, as men of sound judgment. be had uo
doubt they would accept with the same fraiiknem
in which he offered it. To prove how sincere he
was in ro doing. he would propose to invest them
with several new powers. When the number of
trustees was found to lie reduced below a quorum,
and became consequently incapable of acting,
lie proposed that they should be allowed to fill up
the omissions of themselves. In all changes, how.
ever, of a charity, in the first place the assent of
the visitor must he obtained; secondly, that of
the ordinary ; thirdly. there must be an appeal to the
Commissioners of Charitable Education; fourthly,
there was to be • notice affixed on the walls ;
fifthly, the charges were to be enrolled by the
clerk of Sessions; sixthly, the name of the founder
and the date of the alterations were to be affixes'
on the front of the building. As to the sup.
plying of trusts in other cases. first, when all
the trusts were gone, the heir at law should
assume the trust, if he were to be found ; if the
heir were not to be found, then the visitor ; and
when neither the heir at law nor the visitor were to
be discovered, then the clerk of the peace should
administer ; and in failure of all these parties, he
would vest it in the Commissioners of Charitable
Institutions. A doubt load been expressed by some
ignoramuses, whom the Learned Gentleman ad-
verted to by that title, and who had expressed their
doubts (thinking themselves wiser than Lord Chan-
cellor Eldon, or the wisest, if there could be a
wiser Lord Chancellor that ever lived) as to the
ability of trustees to make a beneficial conveyance
or purchase. To satisfy these, whom he ought
not to have gone out of his way to serve, lie
had inserted a declaratory clause. that no trustee
should be a party to a beneficial surrender or con-
veyence of the ihterests intrusted to him. The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman next went into the
consideration of the iuterests of founders, and as to
teaching grammar, and the power he would vest in
the trustees us to the regulation of that subject.
h had heeu observed by Lord Kenyon /fish Term
Reprts), that a survey of the free grammar
schools throughout the country would display a
course of the most shameful perversions of ch.o.
satiable inotitutions, wlierein frequently the only
duly dour was receiving the salary. To which
he (Mr. Brongham) would add, the keeping of
boarders. Sometimes, besides • large salary,
Si spatisms house and ground., the occupant kept
fifty boarders at a cousiderable sum yearly. In
other liSr• the salary was not so much, but the
title of sehoulinester to the foundation, together
with the large mad commodiosis premises, made it
desirable to hold the appointment. This was fre-
quently brought about through the kinduess of
• trustees, whore generosity on such occasions was
not the more conionendable for not being at
all costly to themselves. The same spirit of kind-
nest induced them on some occasions to allow
3UOI. u-year for repairs to the house where
the foolery was not
was one case wheie 400/ a year hod been allowed
in Ihis way. Theo what was the next object ?
Why, of course, to drive away all the children of
the poor flow the foundation, those very children
fur whom the schools were originally founded.
Standing upon the very letter of the case, they
acknowledged themselves bound to teach Latin
and Greek, but mallow else. But then it was ob-
jected to them sometimes, that the founders
could never have intended that the scholars should
not know English. The reply was, .4 Oh ! my
school is open—let those who are burdened with
ignorance of Latin and Greek, conk, and I will
give them a ktiowletlze of the roots—l'll make
them know their penal() post Amnia me well as my-
self." He strongly repieliended so cruel mid un-
fair an interpretation of the intent of the founders.
Such indeed might have been the intentions of
some foutotkrs ; hot most of the endowments proved
that it was intended also to provide fur the teaching
of English, and many of them made provision for
it by appointing am usher to teach it. Now what
he wished was certainly not to degrade the masters,
who were receiving 6004 a year. by forcing them
to teach it, but to secure its being taught by
sin usher, to be appoiuted fur each foundat
that would admit of at. Iss proceeding, the Ho-
nourable and Learned Gentleman expressed his veil.
lingoes. to avoid meddling with the foundations of
Colleges ; they might perhaps be reasonably ex.
eluded front the alierations or renural winch,
were necessary fur other endowment., and In any
ease there was hots much slifficoliy its attempting
the ta,k_sselfuos ve.rutur quern°. Out
_las to
grammar rchuulr, lie had limited over a kw cases
that very mar * g. must of which declared the
establishinetit to be for the use of the children'
of the potor,;,in one ease the woidg were, " the
ch)lstrign 111.) ptilib,77 .10 .iiecs
mined, that %gold !! Jape mtg!tt
_include the,
of tie rich; hut if poverty really moult

riding in each cues, surely psorgst mild have o
such interpretation ; surely " poorest!' could slot
mean richest. The endowment at Lewisham was
expressly " for the children of the poor who are
living in alms-hoseses." Now, though poor was to
be take,' for rich iii other case., certainly alms.
houses were out generally the resort of sflbsence.—.
It was not in such place. that they would look for
guests " clothed iii scarlet and fine linen." Some
of the fonotlations were expressly for the children
of paupers, named as such. Poor slinsmeo were
ambitious in those times of hewing their sons taught
for the sake of bringing them up to the church.
Churchmen were frequent:), drawn from the lower.
ranks of life. high Blfollf, 1114111• It themselves on
their descent, their castles, their forces, their estates,
and fortifications, orally destined the eldest son
mid successor to the wars, and the ...cowl to the
cloister, to make op for the sins of the family
who had been or were to be engaged in battle.
These younger brothers formed the body of supe-
rior churchmen, and the B irons ksiew well that the
eridowinents which would fall to them would amply
make up fur she want of a patrimony. The other
chop, whose character allured the penitent charity
of the pious, were those called trimmer,, the
foontlers of whose establiehmente hoped for salve-
tido for effecting so charitable a work. Had the
founders of schools of this order been able to see
what an alteration the light of the Reformation
breaking iii would effect. they would have no doubt
taken care to secure instructiois in the vulgar tongue.
in which perhaps they would still have required
prayers to be said for them. Of course all fair
meet's ought to be taken for the most getters! dif-
fusion of the benefits of the foundations. To
shew the abase of grammar school., it would only
be necessary to notice 4 lea out of 400 cases which
he had culled on account of their superior defects.
He then entered into a comparative statement of
some length of the grammar schools of Cumber.
laud, with those of other counties, which contained
means enough, if properly applied. for educating
all the poor in this country. His principle ob-
ject was by regulating the grammar schools, to open
a door of preferment to the teacher. in the parish
schools. By this means the class of schoolmasters
would be raised, the character and talents of them
generally improved and elevated. It was the same
here as in that apparent anomaly and injustice in
the church establishments, where a Prelate got
50,000/. for doing no duty, end a Curate, who did
all the labour of the church. received 501. slew'. or
less. Yet taking the good and the bed contained in
this, as in all other human institutions. the result
was advantageous to society, arid Mr. Burke's fine
sentence was realised. He ought to be asham-
ed to mention him without remembering his
exact expression, when the turn of a syllable
would be injurious to it. As well as he re-
collected, the words were these—" We will not
treat our church in that way—we will have her
rear her mitred front in courts and palaces"—uot,
as that great man had observed, for the immediate
benefit of the existing prelates, but to raise the
church in the minds of the public, and thereby
not only elevate the thoughts and feelings of the
public, bat exalt the character and purify the BM.
bition of the class. This was the sort of reform
which Mr. Burke himself had described as having
teudency not only to preserve but improve.—The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman next adverted to the
endowments of hospital schools fur clothing and
educating, whose effect and general tendency he
conceived to he upon the whole pernicious. It was
observable from the Digest, that they had the effect
of multiplying paupers wherever they were most
prevalent, and proved a complete counter-check to
those natural checks of population which circum-
stances would otherwise establish. He would have
some provision. like the Mortassin Act, to
prevent such endowments as warred against
sound principles of political science. He pro-
posed lit impart fresh power to the Commissioners,
fur reducing and modifying grammar schools. He
would give one instance to prove the necessity
for so doing. There was an endowment belonging
to the Tunbridge school, for the recovery of which
a decree had been recently obtained in Chancery.
The revenue was 4,5001. The SOO/. were enough
fur the objects of the charity ; there were comic-
fluently 4.0001. a.year to spare. There were be-
sides 24,0001. of arrest's. These were enough to
rumor' more than 100 schools, which would be as
many as were necessary for the whole country. The
Hors. and Learned Gentleman bestowed great com-
mendation on the clerks and servants of the House
who had been engaged in preparing the papers and
tables, and who had in so short a time accomplish•
ed a work of such magnitude; he thought their
talents might be found in other affairs of political
arithmetic highly useful to the House. He next
expatiated on the effects of an infant school which
had been founded in Westmioster. The eff..cts of
education were generally to prevent the degrada-
tions and vacuity of the mind. When he was in
Switzerland. talking of the Brll and Lancaster sys.
tem. M. Fellrnberg had said to him. " it teaches
too fest—you make mere machines of your scho-
lars." He (Mr. Brougham) had not been able
to answer this objection. The school its West-
miuster was intended fur that purpose. It brought
the mind of Cse child into sufficient discip-
line by the age of six years, to give it all
the advantage of the Litricesterian system after-
wards. The infant Mind was so intensely 'nima,,
every thing being new to it. that it lived in a
perpetual slate of enjoyment. This was the
time when it not only received impressions of
kitowledge more agreeably and willingly, hut it
retained the impression% of that period longer
than any other. The children were besides kept
out of the hearing of obscenity and vice. sod one
person, whose chief grielificatom was the resjoy.
merit of an equal temper, without pressing any 1
thing imainfidly upon their attenotoni and iudeed
• without many -objects on them, was able to forward
Ahem very considerably. These were the mods
• which would at ally rote best be able to bear the
• shocks of Ow world. He next came to the cons,.
• deration of the expense which it would be trecessary
•to incur. By the average of Devouslitre, the couttlY
most defective in estsblrahinerits, the outfit would he
650,000/.. his that of Cumberland 400.90 u/. The
average of. these two counties would make somewhat
about 600,000/., a leas slim than had been granted
for budding sox churches. There hid tiers, a time
"lie, such an object would have barn provided ter
in England, without any lwastatiuu or delay, by a

voluntary attirst rfationw4mt that time had cra•ed—
the various hardens (trifles and rates hail put ass
end to that feeling. and now he was compelled to
require the necessary aid of Parliament. The
animal expense he valued at 100.0001. The Mos.
tool Learned Gentleman, after some ',capitulatory
remarks, and having apologized for detaining the
House, concluded by mr.viria for leave to bring in
11 8111, for the better Education of the Poor in
E.ia I slid mud Wales.
Lord CASTLEREAGH, airier complimenting the
non. Gentlemen on the and assiduity which
mast kive preceded his statement, sll4l OH I Ile "perch
be w.14(.11 he had brought the suliirrr forward, oh.
serve I that he 'apposed the [lon. Gentleman did
not wish to press the subject through in this Sea-
siim. As the Digest WAS ready, the Bill could also
be printed. and both being in the hands of Mem-
bers. the Howe would be enabled to come to deli-
beration on the subject iii the early part of the
next Bessie'''.
Mr. IlitouGuast extoressed his acquiescence in
the npini ~,, exi. , dby she Maple Lord.
Mr. WiLusiteoncx made is few observations, iss
which he expressed the grest abbot 11l s he felt to
the 1-I,no. and Learned Gentleman fur his labours on
this occ.i-1011.

Mr. VEsec FITZCZIALD commented on the
necersity of exttuding the benefit• of education
over Ird turf. Fie proposed to himself shortly to
bring in a Bill fur the purpose, in wh►ch he would
be very glad to seed himself of the examples artt
him by the Il,n►. sod Lesriwd Gentleman.

Sir .I..Ngwroor also remarked on the deficiency
of education, and the necessity of bestowing it un
Ireland. He was sorry that the Act far numbering
the populatinii had not beet. somier put into force,
because that, by 'hewing the extent of the want,
would have brought the House au much nearer to
the accomplishment of that object ; and be consi-
dered that in any measure of this sort as applied to
Ireland, it should be distinctly borne isi marl that
the great majority of the nation were of a different
religion from that of the State.
Mr. BROUGHAM explained.
Sir JaNIES MACKINTOSH said lie had observed,
whets he wrs at a distant part of the British domi-
nions, that the improvement of character conse-
quent on having been taught to write MU most
apparent, and he had particularly observed it in
the case of soldier% and sailors. It was needless for
him to observe to the Howe on the great influence
on moral conduct which was lust when the optinou
of the family circle ceased to operwr ; for such thrre
was no public opinion, no check from shame; ou
the contrary, he had had oppoi tunnies of arcing
in the letters of the soldiers and sailors, otitis's.. of
a part of the island where education was much
diffused, letters which contained that little re-
mittance. to their friends at home, thus preseisi ig
and keeping up the domestic affectitino, and at the
same time giving birth to the virtues of trniperatice
and frugality. That simple act of writing which
the poet had eulogized, for what lie moat con-
sider as a more narrow and circuinscsibed ef-
fect. than those which he had observril it to
produce; by it the absent soldier or sailor car.
rind with him the regard of the domestic circle,
avid was by it enabled to retain his tenancy%
tiring of that home where he first drew his breath,
and to which he hoped to return. This was, he
conceived, employing the advantage of writing
better than in "wafting • sigh from 'lidos to the
Pole."—The question was then put, and leave was
given to bring in the Bill.
BERWICK ELECTION.

Mr. RENETT (of Wiltahirr) reported from the
Committee on the Berwick Election the absense of
Mr. Roberts from the Committee on the ground
of indisposition, and the certificate of Mr. Wilson,
a surgeon. was produced to that Net.
Mr. ROBERTS'S *errant was called in and esa•
mined by the Speaker, but he could not inform
the House the reason why Mr. the sur-
geon, was not in attendance.
A Member stated, that he was obliged to attend as a lec-
turer at one of the Hospital..
The question was thea pot from the Chair, that Mr. Ro-
berts be 'sensed front encoding the Berwick Electioa Com-
mittee that day, when
Mr. Wen* rose and objected in point of form to the
Howie proceeding on the mere certificate of a mrdu•al mail,
and suggested that Mr. Wilma should be ordered to &timid
the House to-morrow.

A desultory conversation Pawed on the point, in which
Mr. Abercromby, Lord Cesilereetyk, sad Mr. "yes, parte.
tipated. The matter wa■ ■ltimately postponed, to give se
opportunity fur Mr. Wilson to attend.
DIeFRANCHISEMENT OF GRAMPOUND.
Lord Julia IttniaELL. observing the laicism of
the hour. and the exhaustion of the House after
the lung ■ed elimpseet speech of his Hon. and Learned
Friend, would wish to postpone the important sulkieet of
the di.frauchisemeut of Granipoutid till tu•wurruw, if he
were slut fearful it would iuterfere with the unitios of se
Hon. Member opposite.

Mr. Blown nine understood) objected to putting off Ms
mutton, which stood for towtorrow.
Afters few words from Sir James %matoTosw and
Mr. V. FITZettALD—
Mr. lisowigs nauseated that Lord John Russell's motion
should have the precedency of his on (be morrow.

Sir J. NEWPORT Kis;e notice of a. ovation. but
ibe Noise wiirk prevailed in she Hauge and gallery preerut-
ed uur hearing the import of it.
DISTURBANCES IN IRELAND.

Mr. DALY rage to Cell the attelitioll of the [louse
to the disturbed state of that part of +eland with
which he was connected. and of which he bad given notice.
One tau.e of the disturbances might undoubtedly be traced
to the wretched state of the popslalioo. Another cause
was, the more isolated manner of living which the Irish
peasant adopted, nut as in Eitel:mil, congregating together
in villages, where the eye of his neighbour funned a check,
and a very considerable check too, upon his conduct,
lie would trouble the Moose very shortly with some of
the ciscionstances which hail fallen within his own ob-
pervailiiii, to enable them to form IbtAr judgment on
the propriety of the motion with which 1w should roe-
elude. le the district artjolisiiig 14.011e0latiltat the Ma-
gistrates bail engaged, with the aid of sixty of the %%di-
tto y, to keep the peace in that district.; hat that was 'erased
them by the Government. After that refined the disntfee-
ttun considerably, sad the Magistrates of taus ate-
tritts asseutbl4,l and requested in be pat under Ike Prime
Protection Art. Afterwards • skirmish took place between
the military mid the disalreeted, in which several lives were
lost, and a gentleinau who bail become oboomuus to the
disturbers, from his activity, was shut iu moue day. The
Magistrates amemlrled, salescriptions were entered into, and
rewards offered for the discovery of the nttuderml, bat
without success. Military assistance was applied for, but
the country was Awls considered in sorts a state, that
the Government could not trust a smaller body, of men
then one hundred and fifty to be mot on that duly. The
Ueversiment thew pot silt bunnies ityvbe eastern part of
the cesium, of Gulwey under the Pore Prot"lteu Rill, To-
wards the middle of Npvemtwr one whisk roustry was rte-
pnised, snit, roconrated by the inacttekty of the Uu-

tbrty compieseed the 'Beek et Geistlevee's
houses.; spoon's. of sestet, were so attacked, lord either
forcibly entered or the attacking party beaten rig.. Bi.t
he. would ask if that was • stale of the coon., y. At 14
he •llowed !--a" Hese. Amor.)-110 the month of N, sienalwr
sixty men contd. out he spared. Ind in Fel/mai, Aillowien if,.
Guirernnient would aesol 3.500, and the whole country was
overspread by them, previously to which the rilwis„ fur
so he might call them, hal with • force of 1,200 ..r
1,500 men, regultrly mist-Iced sad binned • vilmge
They had ;Marked the police barrack., and in rote instivi.e
bad maintained a regular battle with the police. atm we •
chiefly old soldiers (else assailants coutisting o
and hail emulsified the attack fur Gee boons. (lea not
he would strain ask. a At riicumstence to i.e into iii into
When he considered that vteeuiy Magististra had nevi..
to the Guverisment bush in England and Ireland, ■ '
when he considered that • bolletio had been ism'.
by the Home Lkpartment on a eionnterativsly tty *cc,-
lion at Glasgow, he could not hot think apps
cal ion deserti 4 a more resist tiro' coosideration. He hsd
the authority of our of the Lords Justices fur rt)ing, tissi rb
Insurrection Act, or some other strong mcouri. •111
come *hemline!, oreremry fur preservinz u.. pence t
the country. It might he said that ~,,,
the people was now changed; but bow n:11 that
Hail great marnbers come in under the Goternthent ).r.,ei
maim. trf pardon ! He would affirm *Wolter fro of r .
tradietion, that not 50 mess had accepted the terms of ibtt
proclamation. When he rumor" that the wog tow he intro.:. 1
to propose was hkety to heronries,' by Gore. iimeot. he Its
communicated with the 'Pothooks of the ennhoty, with it..
magistrates, and rid, Catholic geutlemen also, who a.I
concurred in the necessity of some Simile memoir. •
bring adopted, r the country would he iti a most awful
slate. He would out hostile the Horse rtth rsadtns ea-
tract. from all his letters on the subject, but one frit,
Mr. D'Arey, the chief magistrate of the ...fruity. sent by the
Government, was most important, as it culispletely agreed
in the semivowels of the other Magistrates, tlytt some strung
messier* was necessary. Whatever list me-ottre migl.t
lie would certainly mot concur in any thing but whist
would leave the trial by Jury uotoochod. The connive vas
at present cowered with troupe, and yet nutragea einitinned
to be committed; It. entreated the Hour to rousider,
whether, whets the long nizhts came, listters woohl hot be
worse. He bad beard that Killtesey, Cutts, and the North
of Ireland, were out perfectly framed Under the circum-
stances he had slated, it was he cousidered the ditty of the
Government to protect the peaceable and total, and
guarantee to them the benefit* of the roissidutisin. He
concluded by snering that a ticket Committre be append-
ed to examine till" she progress and existence of
turtiances in belated, and whether it be necessary to
grata to the Govtruinent of dm Country, ally additional
patine, and to moult thereon to the House.
.4 Member, whose name we could not learn, wooded the
mot i ~,, .
Air. C. GROiT said, lie felt it liits duty, 'peek..
log the sentimelits of the Lord Lietstrointit nod the
Government of Ireland, that there was 1.. ground whatever
for an Insurrection Act. He felt it to he his duty to op.
pose the Hinionralde Gestlentaies motion, not nal, on
the grimed of tile late period of the gesso., which 800.
eluded the lika of bringing the proposed inipory to nay
conclusion, and titat lw considered • sufficient genenol,- hat
sumo he *mild oppose it on the ground that if the inquiry
were entered upon, it did slot propose to go far rootlet. He
should be Inc lookiog a little to the gamuts—(likaej—to the
causes butts general atsJ local. Did Gaullism's, know the
uature of that Insorrectiott Art to whirl, allosino bad bora
made That Act authorised the Lord 1.0 mensal, by hie
Proclemsti ~,,, to declare Amoy district within its operalsOlit
that Act enabled Magistrates to take tip and commit 110
. prison prof person found out of hi, bowie Itelfrreu insibbet
and sun-rise; by that Act a Se.sirois was always eittimr,
fore which the offender might he taken, thud orders' she
iistervention of a Grand or • Petty Joey, tint solely by she
judgment of %midi Petty Sessions, acting oath r the 1/11hIllaier
of psssions and feeliuga incidental to local islet...dittos'' such
offender might, fur that uffehice, be transported for sent%
years. That was the Act olisels the Govirnment were tom-
piniocil of for not causing to Ise re.rnart...l. Ile (41r.Grent)
hail been toll that if the aiversainent frit reluctant to do
this they would forfeit the confidence of the Gime tennis of
Galway, but he orchid appeal to she Hume whether for Its sit
he eell(M to forfeit she conetteere of the Irish people. la
addition to what he had stated of the lasorreetiois Act, there
was in it a clause empowering a Slatristrate to furee ad-
mission into the house of a suspected person, and if
the owner was absent be might he staters up as idle
sod disorderly, and thus transported ultimo' trial Ly
Jury. True It was the Act authoris...l the Sessions .t
their discretion tb try by a Jury, but hic belieeed
that was • discretitio which they never had exercised.
The Host. Mover hail paid it was not his ittiet.tma top.•• the
lusurrection Act, but only I mitigated sperita of it ; he
(Mr. Grass) would of the two rather have the I surrect ion Ac',
with all its enormities, fur those very enormities afforilett
some security against their long continnaore ; bet.. miti-
gated Act might be cossidered as a permanent Act, and tie
would reverse the prayer of the lyric port awl sat
" Not gently on shy suppliant's bead,
Dread Goddess, lay thy chastening hind,
Brat in thy goreun terrors clad."
He did nut undervalue the information the HothGestlemas
had received, hut must entirely dissent from Ilse conclusion
which be bad drawn, that it was of such • nature as to jus-
tify so strong • measure as the one proposed. The least
accounts he had received represented the rosistrY as
in apparent tranquillity at least. He did thot,mi-su to
say that all would be peaceable there in ruttier
who would predicate that of Ireland most be a hold
man; but be thought that the system of goveruntebt
which was roamed till the middle of the lase reit" was the
priaeipal cause of the altuatioa in which Old cdpatry, was
placed ; end this was worthy of 'serialise rooaitlerattosi
the present juncture, and might teach them trot to attempt
fur temporary purpesee any inftiugement of greet general
principles: " for a Moment It might save yon, but you were
sore to lay op • store of future repentance."--s'efear /
Marry of the causes of discontent were vrithio the resell of
the great healer time, others were within the pewee of the
local authorities, and mete were, risque violably. ..natter of
legislative interference; bet then those that were Iv that
latter class were of such notoriety, that it count nut
for an inatant be contended that a Committee wot., he.
tensity to be appointed lkie ingisiriug tofu them. The
system which the Government had pursued was to try
all the civil means in their power, arid at lath; D'h al
failed, to supply a moderate military forte. He defended the
Government front the charge of Macho( treated Ole 1111101P11-
tailors,. of the Magistrates with coutemely ; and he 4411 tet
consider that there was arty evideut•e to ahew .1 hat the estarder
of Mr. Brown was instigated by the sealuirs eartecistrei bit
public duty. He coutended, that so fie front the Closhaffsfilpre
having neglected the communieation of the neehlteery, Col.
Stratton had been cxprusaly seat by the Goveremeekeir st-
range with the Magistrates as to the dimpshilitm atslfwsotlst
of the inditarrforce which would be requisite. -The Peace
Preservative Bill was • graduated step, adomentelfeeriebe
suresclius Act bed been allowed to 'spire; a:id sbacilket was
so allowed so expire at • time who s sinew vivo% Ise ow),
jest bees hoops-hoed in the cmiutos Tipoermy shed
Bet what was few case slow) allowing that Stew kemb been
distarloacos, they had hems iluppremed, and that• wittiost
the alder the Insarrectios Aet. The cussottes.of Chow sued
Mayo ketst bees 'Sweetened, hot there the peeve area otter
served by the spirited exert's,* of the reddest -embletriers
and retry : that such crsednet had sot Ire" othiwersalseseld
appear from the charge of Judge Daly,. who hest.* mimeos
terse accessed mom individsselo triarktroe sh, lb. siebt..•s
actin wish timpanists*, sed• allbreting Netstralety, is (feet
if they could, by such ihnuterrentahle crass,
!sett*, of their property. The Right • Horewurrehle Gem.
tkosis then proeretkd to protest minima, 1110:1111Mloirewee
to those maxims% by which Ireland *lle semi M tut mi.
replies to the general speech sad Spirit isf aim giu.
yeeogesst—(Ater, beetresdof 11l calarettiewhb ^might
it was sot the least to he eselloselly tesorteng letekereordh.
it.., neessiirrm.—(firece, hoor,)--k • trot iojori3Oos was Me.
Oskar", awl. the superior orderooksorietyr old* ilews,, M-
inced of equally restraiming amdliseiectiert boldellihr pier
and dee rich, were swede orly esoletratit • the pi...N*lMb 100
Isrotrit she ettli, sold maibe tlete ft= s'sllogrmeagy
could ueacr be created,modsWl OW fog Nor toey