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EDUCATION of she LOWER ORDERS.

EXTRACT FROM TNE EMOTES OF TEE EVIDENCE
LEFORE Tilt SELECT COMMITTEE OF THE MOUSE
OF LOMMONs. ANNEXED TO TMEIR THIRD RE-
FORT ON TUE EDUCATION OF TUE LOWER
SEDERS. --
ST. BEES SCHOOL.

Venetia, 22 din Maii, ISIS.
HENRY BROUGHAM, Esq. in the Chair.

Rereread Mims, called is. and examined.
Y..w are a (Oka of Queen's College, Oxford '—Yes.
Were you moister of St. Hers school ?—I wait.
When were von appoicstor ?-4 was appuioted in 1811.
How bug ihil you coatiane toaster?—fill the year 1817 ;
till the month of June in that year.
Darter the time that you were seltuahoseter, did you at.
tend any of the wet tinge of the ginterours of the school ?-
1 always attracted at the annual meetiugs, in the guvernor's
room, which are held recording to (be statutes, sou. sifter
At these esseetittes, are the accounts asdited?—They wets
sever regularly prinhered, sod I never bad • sight of the
acconots, except for a kw rionsents,onee.
Who kept the accounts ?-11r. Younger, the attorney, of
Whiteherea. who is now dead.
Was Me. Yourger one of the gurertiors?—No.
What office situ he hula in the charity that hr kept the ae-
tomtits acted as the &wiry I reviver, Masi steward of
the court ; the evert ui the Manor of 9t. Dees.
Who are the hints of the manor of hi. Hem ?—I 'appose,
the ivei ..... •of the school.
Who was the principal receiver, while Mr. Younger was
deputy 3-31 r. l'unsoulay„ of Hale Hall; scot after ktr death,
the Nee. Mc. Arnaitstesd.
What audit did those armlets, to time knowleilre, no.
deign ?—They never appearcd to me to pass through soy
secular audit, that 1 ass aware of.
Who were the governors that attended the Meetiuga, ge-
nerall)4 some thecae that gewerally aslrnde.l, mot teak
as
active part:—Mr. rims/pithy, while *lire; Mr. Humphrey
oil Nether Hall ; the lire. Dr.llllterthwaite, then
reeler atf 11...11e, hut tom of tostlwr, 1 believe; atil the
Der. Mr. Scutt, of Egreoutut, aline he became rector of
t:.greitsistit
Are there ell Vhe rivermers?-.Tbrre are seven; 4 hare
mentioned fire; the pretrial of Dare's's College, is another,
but lie to err :Mewled ; sod the Krv. Mr. !liming. now
'retie Jf nalalle; sad tlw Rev Mr At.nitalciad, of Wlttle-
haven, were.apuututect during( my I....eidetic:2 at tit. Bees, after
whirls • Ivy genera!t) all. tub cl.
Ale these all the mWer you. ever pair sitend ?—The
Earl of lantscialit it • re/risme, sad attended at eta spatial
aneeilior
Who seeeveilect Mr. Plinsnithy?..rr.Arenitstetril.
Du y u knuie who (tee ut..s the :calks, on the part of

1000....a.8..... 867

1699 2409
The difference of une year may arise from the ides, that
the first leases were only for 999 years, as some have sop-
Yed.
ou say there are so pits souk within the maser?.-1 be-
lieve nut.
Were there ern say pits mink within the manse?—Theve
is s loter is the borstsry of Queen's College, addressed to
the provost. °a the subject of resting the consents beloagiag
to the school.
Du you recollect the Eames of any other trustee besides
Shoe of Sir James Lowther's lease it 1712 ?--I am sot
certain.
Was sot Mr James Spedding the attest of Sir James Low-
ther iu that leanssetion • and is he wet so deaigaisted its the
papers mistime to the liase?—l do out know.
De yua kuovr, is point of fact, that he was Mr James
Lowther's ascot !—Yes, I believe he was. It was said that
be was.
When you wore selmoimaster, had 7ou the ensiody of (be
muniments of the school
Who had?—They were is • chest lochod with three locks,
of which the keys were is the posses ina of three governors,
soul ease of those keys woe in She beads of Use receiver for
the lime lacing.
la whose custody was the box or elsest?—is the toter.
noes room, which room is u. fled as • bedroom.
What eosins' hos the schoolmaster over the broke by the
statistis !—By the /lignite he ii required to have one key of
she dearer the room its which the box is kept, sad the cob*
key of the dour is to be is the hands of one of the gum.
Hurl; but I believe the receiver is excepted by the statutes
Noir hieing the 001111“101110 of the other key Of the door.
Are there two locks to the door. or may oat lock with two
keys? —When 1 went to the school there was isu lock ; by
the statutes there are to be two; ey the statutes the school.
roaster isirespired aso lemma key et the seal, which assist to
be kept I. a casket, mad that casket to be lucked iu the
rhea.
Are there any other locks to bean the casket but aua
ose luck is required, and that has sever beta At for Aunt
iss ter resideface at St. Revs.
Are there say other keys *false casket allowed by the sta-
tutes, except that kept by the water?—No.
Is It by the force Of the statutes that the mister's inter-
s/elitism is .retisirml Are use of eh, seall—Tbe statutes
require that the seal shall rut be 'used excepting is his Joe.
afore.
Was any application semle to yea by any persons Ails
you were there, for the isispectiou vi the papers?—Yes.
Krllte the circumstances of that application At-
mitstead,'tse athe governors, end Mr. Vomiters.. the deploy
receiver, who was at that time agent to Lord Lou•shile,
wade the application.
Give 41a a dite?— Easier.
Was any body Ore with thesil ?..Plitl; they cams to the
school and asked to gas sato the riveinor's main; I want,
"'that 1 'bald Ara • theta the way." They mid, a airy
Auto *here the row. was: stud the) cuald find the w.ly

In whose gift is Mr. Armitsteses living ?-.ln the gift of
Lord Luandale.
In whose gift is Dr. Satterthwelte's ?—Lord Lansdale's.
In whom is Mr. Fleming's ?—Lord Lonsdales ; the %Sing
Mr. Fleming has _Now.
Du yes seems to stale, that Flentiag's living, et that
time, was i• Lord LoLdale s gift ?—1 mean to say, that
the Swam he now Adds is.
What answer did Too make, when the governor said, you
most tears the room?—That I should not leave it, milevei I
was compelled to leave it. The observation was, that I hied
been desired to leave it, and they conceived that I 'meld Si)
111 U 1110, at their relying. I lieu observed, that I certainly
should not leave the room, except opus this condition. His
Lordship replied, "No condition, Sir." i said, " I cannot
consent to leave the room wetland the custody of the met,"
obaerviug, that the statutes required that the seal should be
under lock and key, nod is a casket, and that casket locked
up is a chest ; that I never had say key of the casket given
to me; and I requested that I might either have it put so-
der a lock and key, or else that the seat should he cousigne
to my care, whilst I was oat of the room. The reply bass
that there is no lock to the casket, and that I bad No eight
to take the seal out of the room env more than say body
else had to take tiny thing else out. The einestion woe dal,
pot to me, whether I meant to leave the room or an,. 1
said, that as I considered myself compellid to do so, sod as
the enstotly of the seal was refused to use, 1 should arm
withdraw.

Did you accardiugly withdraw I.—lfea.
How Wog did you continue absent'—Nearly two linurs,
as well as 1 recollect, but I am unit Certain as to the time.
Do you know what was teasnacted in your absence !
No, 1 do not, except that a minute was read to me, no
being callvd in-again, stating, that In consequenCe of the
taproom they had hero at iu entinsiag the tomato., it was
necessary to lake 201. from my salary, which war thee re-
duced from 70i. to a-year.
Have yus any mesas of estimating the value of the coals
leased at 31. 10a. the 'curly rent!-1 have rio means of
estimating the value • did once make inquiry what coats
were taken oat of that pit seat to the maim of oandwath,
hot I de recollect the quantity.
Di you recollect, generally, what might he the quantity?
—1 cannot ss at ail, at peanut.
Do you itnow the name of the pitt—Wiloon Pit.
Is it a very large cellieiyl—Yes, .1 believe it is.
Is it a great coucernl-4 was present, with a friend, when
he made the inquiry.
Do yOu metier. the refill if the inquiry, at ail I
In net, Au *certainty.
Do s,ois recollect if your frielvd formed an eseiniatel4.-Yetti
he did form an estimate at the time.

And what did be eidisnote It al!—dt several thousands
o.year; but l am not eerlaiu tuLto the slim.
How moo after l oicurrence 'fiat you describe. were
you dismissed from your situndins of schoolmaster ?—I was
sot dismissed, 1 resigned it.
State the circurnitancra that led to your resignation,?—
The immediate circaanatinsce has. the offer of • situation iu
my imedaalway's family; tart arhosig the reasons of my re-
ongoing, pie Was, snot I could not get &cased to the orisoul.
Lute to the Cerium t' sill Iles imrticulars respectiug the
application fur the %imam. sad its refural?—loPlamd to
the Sithop of Chester, Hie diocesan, for a license, which he
proranwil to grant liar, assorts as I procured testioneMials,—
I applied 1p Mr. Armitentod, for hisoltruature, which at drat
be promised to give me, but ollevltitdit rettlfw4 cc "It tee.
tiatrauials without We signature,
_stating. that he CO•SUllitta.
as governor, be ought eat to do May thine intr•r& fixing
me in a situeriow froth which 41 might be the wish of the
governors to remove me.
Was this refusal of Ms. Armitage's(' before or *fort the
meeting albs govorosura you have !—I beiirvt it
*as affer.
Try to 'moiled ?-4 em net certain; K might be before.
Was it before or after the Ottrurresree *bleb you bites:re-
latest respecting the visit of Air. Arusiortead and Mr. Vintager
Intim Sited!—lt was taint, suberviseitt 111 11411, MO,
believe, also to the special meeting of the t overeats 1111.0.
tiodtd above.
Had you ever Ital. before the refusal of lie. Armitsomd,
any difference wash the governors. upon *ay et ;
do out recollect that atsy tint stifle /volt loot takeu place
between us.
Go on to relate the circtrio.tancts rtypcoing hits sofosal

Who attenshd the meetiug?-e-Mr. .Artnit Arad, Mr. Fle-
ming, and Mr. Strehnenue; I believe those all. Mr.
Younger was present, the deputy receiver; Ms Arnliisterut
opened the meeting. by stating, thee I haul &devoted sers.if
from elm school darning the4rar, to oh . autumn of at least
80 days; I conceived that he meant single dap., and 1 cz.-
preu.sed myeeeerpeise et the statement ; and I bugged that he
would alluiv me to lake on sr consul of slim minutes lie bad
made, for they observed that they had homer y watchful si
to the number of holidays kept ; but soy request was nor
granted; and own further urging an rloeteinseitess of the
atstenseet, it appeared shut more than OU stays had always
been zratited by the sehurelewashr io Isolid,syy in the
trad-
itclion of crery person acquainted with the school; said that
they had no particular otstemeuti of entes holidays to bring
forward iu support of the elearae, emet' that I had ah-
seuted myself, as they said, for five days, upon a ei+it to
Alouby, which I said was not correct; owl I observed, that
I had ugly left the school after school hours or use Satur-
day, and returned on Tuesday nem euMg; and that, that wag
after out having given singte holiday to the lons fur Sc,,
weeks. They then charged me with being stoecnt on another
occasion, ones visit to Penritli, which I sphneeed, by stat-
ing that I have reserved a holiday fur .11/1*" time for that
purpose. They then allowed that there ass was ooliting
pirtirulsrly blanscab'c its to my Weir Mascot eta those sue,
; but that ri port bad said .• gee.ut du M of soy leasing,
alnieutert myself from the school ; and et was agreed, that
I should not leave St. Bees for more ilsso a day, without
asking their leave; cud lucre I supposed the business 'Lid
beret closed, but a atingle was 111R•11 np4ithoot any fti,-
'kw ultnervutino, statist that they lad fouled 14 seeesemy to
reprimand nie fur neglect of duty. 11141 minute was sent
to the bishop, and upon this was truunded the bishop'.
r,furst.

Did this 14e plies before or lifter the visit or Mr. Ar-
ositsttact, to Mr. Yuuuger, to gei lhr Feast wit uY the chest!
was alter.

Ahust what time did tkis teeming take plate?—lt was
in 1815.

It was after Bishop Law's firer refusal to ficensef—lt was
ralkd in consrqueace of the bishop's application at the
tiny of the refusal.
State again the order of your irpliestions for a license ?
When I first applied, the bishop promised that he would
Rind me a lierillot upon sending the testimonials,; but whim
the testimonials were sent, tircether with a certificate of
▪ nuivinuatimi, he declined, 'plateau, that the governors
w•re out satisfied with my conduct, that he understood
they were net ; sod be made .applreariJo to Itiwow, whether
that was the case; and upon that eppticsfion, the meets.
jug already Ineationed was called; apJ some Gone after
that a frlruel of mine futerccsled with the bohop, and
the bishop consented to great me the hernia, and vii
the certificate of my nomination had sneer twist refers-
ed, 1 conelnded it .would be accepted. the Inslmp, how-
ever, then stated, that the nomination must b• ern is
neon a "asap ; smiths provost of Queeeish Colkge, to whom
the uonilnstion Steil, couccierd that he could nut u,dinuate
me afresh, as the time 'Mowed for that lIUMIIIIIIIOII had
elapsed. Ott one occasion, the bishop had ceiiianteil to ay.
cept of • certificate Irons the provi.st, that I was nominated
retilarly at the time required by the statutes ; tut after-
wards be repressed himself dissatisfied with such rei t.fi-
cote ; and on account of that difficulty SAO out lab* to
procure a license.
How lone dirt you eoertinae to oft:late is achnnlmester
frost shi 'ail fOrUSII6I of the Inohnp do „rel.
het the slatea of soy applications.
Yea tan asetaitatii these date?-11 could attreelain Them if
acre in possession of my papery.
Was it nue tear or two years Ns-Betwetra cure and two;
shunt a year'aiol abaft.
And then yon resigned of your **a Wend!—Yes.
Was the provost of Queen's College towel permit at any
meeting of the goverours iu your hmr ?—Nu.
Row old is ilve prevail of /lama% Collego-11bout SO.
Yon read the Omar of the eiseJ mines grouted to Sir
.13111111 Lowther iu 1732 ?--Yes.
Cita you Mate the particular names of am manors men-
tioned in that knee?-1 nut limns giheater it ism:wile, Alio
whole under the name of the alabOr of St. Bars, ,w • sib tile
Lido( of Satidwath ; I do not know hiw it was • 11:•11.1.e.I.
You are sore it was rod described by any utter awns:lee
Yes.
Hare yule ever known any courts beld tot air ..neinur
St Sege and Saildwath!—No.
idase.yousseveritnown any coarse hail for •the nraLer
St. Wes by the aerial' of IA tip as 4ing
hint ?—I liarre-kasistru sox-vitro. 1%44 hut this inAhr..41"..1.0
OM@ gut err;!irs of the sehoothouse.
(Fur hontinsafiem err paLti.)