The National Register.
London, England, 1816-04-15 00:00:00

CIVIL LIST ACCOUNTS.

Mr. TIER sEV said, he had now to call the attention of the
House to a 111011011 Of his, for the prothn.tion of certain estimates
ichtthe to the c.p.tature of the Civil List iu the lord Chant.

APRIL 15'.

ger de!inctmcm, and moved that the estimates nor the
1111111,1' esoLngt the Oth of January last, should be Lsitl beton
the House forthwith.
Lord Csartunt:ann objected to the in9tion, bee:lase no
estimate of th,is quail...v. hail been I oil before the Lords ot. tbs.
erisury ; w:!e.i the ssrhjret cause before the House he
be ready to slate why these e•tasaistes been made not.
gr. 1•11-11NEN's su firm was. pin mid negatived. He then
gave notiee Best he would on Monday the 61It of May, move
tar a Contm:ts..!, of tile w!ri:t. House, to enquire into the situ-
ntion of the Cis ii List, and that the Committee should have
pouter to call for persons and paper.;, and to esamine witnesses.
Mr. Hstamimstr.v tutored fur ..n account of the stuns due
((war The French Government to this Comitry, fur the main-
tenance of French prisoners, but which was givert.mp by the
Treaties of ISIS stud MB, on cliods•ion of the r retiot Govern.
anent com‘enline, to recognize the claims of British subjects
on the Freed& Fuel.--Agreed to.
Mr. Font's, moved for a return of the several duties of the
Officers tie the Navy Pay Otrire. The object of the lion.
Gentleman was, to ascertain diction. the duties of those Officer:
were not so light as to admit the opportunity of their paying
seamen an foreign stations.
Sir C. PoLu was happy the motion Lad been made, as it
gave him an opportunhy of stating how tile matter stood. By
the Allotment Act, the seaman IVIII allowed to allot half his
pay to his wife, or some other persmi, and the greater part to
others. This was the benefit of the Allotment Act; and he
should oppon such a regulation as tl-ai Hon. Gentleman now
preyosed.
Sir fi. Hoer observed, that if siods a practiee as paying the
men on foreign illations was to be carried into sheet, it seas
impossiOle that the fleets coutti snore until the men were paid;
so that an enemy's fleet miulit ride trininnli lilt in she Mediter-
ranean, while the proper officers were paying our ships, which
would take era three weeks.
Mr. Hoes arced in the op:nion of the last speaker. If tie.
.iseanrii could rescue their pay abroad, lie was afraid that
very few of them would scud home a provision fur their
families.
Sir lt. Moonsow concurred In the opinion of the gallant
Atlaiirals (Sir C. Pole alsl Sir. G. Id pe), 811(1 opporold 'the
maiine, as brim; detrinteutnl to the interests of the -erv!..*.
Mr. W. Srarrit Bloat* the brand defect of the British Navy
was, that it partook more ilwa neck ss.try of force and coercion.
Sir (:. Pots.. adia.tteit it would be bei er to man the British
Navy witho-; coercion. But while in n preferred the merchant
service, i; bceause necessary to ex correi,n, or it would be
Impossible to man the fleets.

COINAGE..
Mr. flinsxsrt. steed. that in reit. et to the circulation of
Silver. if 14 i14:11 •on Nvo.heel to ohtaio chmice fur a I!. note. h,
got one half in foreign Coin, and the ot.i.r coatsterfe..
Coin, manufalured in du, emintry. thouglir ilic e el.
ttitte r.f the Ntarket was a .nst ear giving i(i• 04!)
lie a new Coin .gefrmn Miot. rhi, ,i,t) the price ••t* •)i;
was 625. per pound. I..f.ats. mmi then 1111/11(ti 6,1 11.6
Acceinut of all foreign Cold -,pa impurtvd, to the
latest period, from tiv• I4t of diin.ll2lll. Agreed W.

N.VI- 1L I 4TIMATrS.

On the itesollition for gran ing .t certain m. for leilf pay,
Sir C. Pot m; nilvsiteil to the superannoated list, and objected
to the so•ierationation of a C.menissocset of the Nasv in Ali
health. wilt... salary of 7111/1. and another person who rec. teed
1100aL a year out one averment, and 3301.0 n au.ofh. r; t los toakinr
atoial of 15001. to one person. Thorsailaut Admiral referred
to the triny i ist,and re•oTitri to we that the brothers of Ge-
neral Brock and Buss mid ample peosilns (12001. a-ye art, while
the widow of Coplaln Horsey, who fell on tlv Ist of :hie, tin-
der Lord Howe, had only ! 251. alear for thosupportuf herself
ewl elmild.
Mr. Caoai:n said, the ;allot tiliniral htld taken an errone-
ous view of t:k siihket, the disparity in* the two services not
being really such as he dosmilied. The pension granted to Mrs.
Harvey was in 1794—the widows of (-Woods in the army stood
in the e*n,e predicament as Mfg. Harvey, their pensions being
smartly the same. In some eiime.m the widows of officers in the
:softy, of the same milk with Pt WoCaptaios, received less. In
Yespret to the Commissioners of time nav , the regulaiiini of al-
lowing them Mi. swear on retiring WO4 a sery old regulation,
and not to he affected toy tae Orders in Council. 'flie two
Canimissitruels stiperannihrted well: both of 'item upwards of
e1:A..4.w years old. Commissismer Famishavre hied'lseeti CA) years
in the pubfeservice.
After smile further remarks the Resobitious were agreed to.
tfie Report of the Ordnance Estimates was taken into further
stonsielw.mion, avid agreed to.
On the motion of Lord Patturitsrms, the Reportsof the Ar-
my 0,11111atl!!% was ordered to be taken into fusser cone
sitleration.
Lord FOLKSTOWIL could not Irt-lite last time of theresEntis
metes rooting before the House pass, without repeating that
those I..tirtaftii were tar too large for a slate of peeve ;
sod unless they were still farther reducesd„the effect they mast
,produce on the finances of the euantry noshd be ruinous Pti
termh this opportstiiiiy, also, of again pmts sting against the me-
al' the military on all oceasions. Time amount of the doily guard
of the Metropolis was nearly double since 17:11. Ile instanc-
ed what Lord Chief Justice Holt sail to nn Officer who (NUM'
to him to ask for the authority of the Civil Power in aid of a
party of soldiers that hi mil horn sent to quell a riot in Holboi
n.
Car L mrd Cala Justice said to the 03icer, Suppositsthe mob
odes not tli.perse when you arrive, what voodd you do Wear.'
The Officer said he html orders to tie:, on them. " Have yon
sa, Sir," said his Lordshio ; " then take untie?, that if one WWII
is killed, and yon are tried before I will take care to have
you hanged." That was corlaitily tt strong expression ; but hi ,s
Lordship concluded by saying, that the matter belonged to tt.e.
'aril Power alone, and uc stfieer of his slsould attend the Mt-
Repent was ilia& agreed to. —Atliourcmi.

TH0113241', APRIL H.
INTEREST OF MONEY.
;IC ?krj. ()snow gave noti.r that he shotildon the Oth.May
move fun leave to tiring in a Uhl to repeal the laws re,pi-eliog the
Interest of Alimey. It was not his intention to alter the r the of
interest, hut to leave money to hail its tot level.
Petition, were presented from persons concerned in the Lea-
ther Tea le from Oxford, 'l'ew keen cry, Boltou-k-Moolv., Est..
ter, t'ie West of Scotland, And ot.a.x.places against the Lea-
ther Tax.—Laid on tie table.
'Elie seeoa I res.clite4 of the Insolventriebtor's Bill was. post-
poneti.to the 3OLts inst.
IN:iOLN'EN'Ir MOTORS:
Mr. lIROUNIIS.M pri seotA a Pet Wont, se.gned by.aliat;t4lit3 of
the Inhaoi•atits WeNtiltig.trt, callus= nitoo the•thoutoto di-
rect the Cunitattee tippl,inteki to invire into the effect of the
jfvolvent lielator'. Art, to extend Weir inquiries to the state
of
tie !vies of :heßemit mid... Fleet :+risons. The {lob.
at! I Learned teeittli-itiin eatere.l into short review:of the
coovetiummea whick.reaulted to creditors, the existence

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of the practice of permitting debtors to reside without the
walls of the•Prisan, who. iiy this means, had opportuniiies to
expend whatever property they possessed in aid mairare of ex-
travagance. Many tuAanecs had occurred, in which persons
participating it; this abuse, went to reside in yarions parts of
the country ; and some even extended their excursions to the
Cmtnlent. He was satisfied, if this abase had not existed,
that the complaints against the Insolvent Debtor's Act would
not be so numerous us they were.
Mr. Lacs.usitT said, that the extension of the rules alluded
to by the Hun. Gentleman, attOrtled en opportunity for the rit.h
Will to live ;It hie ease and in con& ,rt, ut defiance of his just
creditors, who seen thernsclres often sent, not within tit? tines,
;brat withia the prison, in conaeqnence of such dishonest prac-

Mr. Hon Nett was persnaded.stlint the subject of the rules
was one which deatandrl the, strietest investigation. To this hys•
tear, which was the remains of the •Id mid bad laws respecting
debtors mid creditors, he considered the principal objection,
ii-ose to the Insolvent I)ebturi• Act. He was convinced, that
more would be done for protertiug the honest triclemian by
the r:wision of this ay stein, than by any other plan which could
be suggested.
Mr. Ilitourai tm said, that the enjoyment of the rules corn-
plettly did away the effect of arrest I'm' debt, for the rich might
in those rules enjoy every Incurs, %vial the mere incoceieniciice
of a change of residence. Mar I)
The Petition was then read.

• Mr. WEN rirrr bore his testimony to the ill effects of ths sys-
tem, and maid it w3l a common pi artice for swe.iithy d.btors to
SIIUMV•f, is the roles of the King's Bench prison, and
in winter in the rules of the Plc: t prison.
Tile Petition was referred to the Committee on the Insolvent
D 4: blurs' Act.