The National Register.
London, England, 1819-05-17 00:00:00

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3mptrial Vadiamcnt.
lii S 1: oF Lonlys
moxpAy. IIAY It.

The Duke of NEWct Tt.F:eit i Petition from P.ast
og unrt 1.:1C Roman Catholic Claims.
'f he flume adjourned.
TUF-TDAY, MAY 1!.

Rill, TII NOT .tern AMBIII;T of L ANS.
M.)WN E rose, in pursuance of rrotiee, to call :Jr.! Irt:tmfon of the
Ism& so the C.aaduct of the American Qcnetal Jacraoes with
• r...,peet-lifere ekeriufarrabf Arbuthnot :led Artibtister. He owed
it to the cliaracter of the :listinguished individual at t;:e head of
the AstWc.in novesmuenr..ta admit, that he believe I the Go-
vernment- of Aorerira incapable of any deliberate intention to
commit a 0 yro4s ala Gutrilv to the fe.dings of I,umunity. The
Noble' 31arittrir pro ..'ceded to 'date the facts of the ease. In
COnsurr,:ac outrages cam:nit:o by :tie Indians on the
confines of Georgia,' ;wal reps:a:ea quarrels between them and
Ausetiadt borderer. Gener.,l Jackson WilS ordered to carry the
war into the country of the Seminole. In April last je:r I"Wai
under the neot4sity of invading the mrutral rerritsrry of Spain, on
the allegid nunive that the .Yerninole.; might make themselves
that teretary,lo the injury of the United States. It
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Wii) to a with that trims:it non to which
11., called tin the attention of the llouse. Gen—Jackson committed
ats w.t of :emits-don by iavading a neutral territory, bat that dot
w rendered 1,1%1A.: by his condnet otter be got potses-
;:son. Cap....Massa was t4iCtll lithOeN.l/UZI of last war in siolation
of oeutraltys but it would have been a grunt. a:way:aims of that
an, if advantago had burn taken by Lord Comeau rah respect
tit the eArtue. trial, • end execution of persons, fur crimes
11:154eti to have been committed against the Government of Great
Britain. Gs 's nal Jackson no sooner made himself meter of
Lott St. 31ark, which was no matter of difficulty, than lie ?fa-
cet:dead to try and excaute Uritish subjects, for offences commuted
against the United States. Perhaps, with respect t. Ambris ter,
there might he tome difficulty in saying General Jackson hart
not the power to fug hint to death. That individual hail been
in arms agaimt the lidded States, and was conneeted with the
-car carried Am by the Seminoles, but he was nor taken with arms
iu his hands, and should rot have been denied quarter. Ile was,
however, led to trial, semen' ell, and that sentence altered by
Ceneral thick son to the pain of death, which was executed. lie
lett: thus laid down a 1:ru..1 principle new in the art of war, which,
if adopted. would operi all species of cruelty a arm:NM:try Gene-
ral might be disposal to mimic, and leads to acts re; ugnant to
every feefinz; cf humanity. With regard to Arbuthnot, tie case
was different. It was rot found that he was in arms; lie was
peaceably it Fort St- ?lark, under the Spanish (;ovein-
Pq-11t. crime intiaved was that of supplying the. Indians
v. it:, powder and a small r,uardity of lead, *loco he hail been ire
the habit of vending as a trader. These individuals were tried,
Old. one of them was rnnduwtal to death, the other to an infa-
mous punt:dime:A : Central Jackson thought right to alter the
ierient punishment, and order death, from which the Court•
n..rtitil had chrtink.—The !dal-anis concluded by moving an
telitreat to the Regent, for all communications between the Bei-
Governinent and the .United States, relating to the proecel•
ings of the American Army in Fl .rids, in 1816, and particularly
to the trial and execution of British subjects.
Lord B.tis IJ awl. declared that Arbuthnot and Ambricterhail
never stood in the situation of Agents known to the British
Government. Neither had Arbuthnot stood in the relation of a
Bkitiih merchant. lie *ts the agent of the Indians, and liable
to idle hostility which the persons were ezpoical to in whose ser-
vice they were engagrd. litre could be but one opinion in
England, and the United States as to the atrocity, at the same
time he called en the House to consider whether it was a case in
tvilich reparation could be demanded.
T::a Marqtiis eat Laxstin WNE. its explinntion, stated the view
he had taken of. the que.tion was to artind an opportunity of
:hewing that the transaction was disavowed by the respect:ye
G..veritale rot&

\ fitr Ow Earl of Liverpool had altltr3sctl the !louse on the
'subjet:t, the motion was put and netuirod.—Adjouractl.

V/EDNESDAY, MAY 12.

Screral 'Member.; frnm Common; brought up a numbor
of Bits. The only public one was the Members' Qualification
Dill.

he Clergy dispensation Bill. and the Chimney Sweepers'
Reaulatioa 13:11, went through the Committee&
A Deputation from the Commons brought up a Copy of the
Refinrt made by the Committee of the Commons tyun the
Nft'..ins or the Hank. putsuant to a • Mess.4eu from tl:e I.mds.
The Mew:sagers *ko requested a Copy of the Report made by
ale Lords' Committee on Bank Affairs.—The licuse adjourned.

TIIVRSDAY. MAY 13,

Op the mvtion of thi, Earl of Liverpool, the report of the
CooituisaiooevA appointed under the Act fur Building CLurclies
was urderk.tl to be printed.. .

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'rise Clergy Dbise:.,,astici. Dill was Lead a third time and I=Bo.l.
Adjourned.

FRIDAY, MAY 14.

The Lunt) CanNcet.t.on intineatcd his intention to postpone
the conaideratioi, of the earhe% whic t stood foe Monday, in cage
the question r(2p,oting :..atito.iu Disabilities was brought
-under discuision hat day.
The Howe adjouroed to Monday.

PIOUSI: OF COMMONS.

MONDAY, MAY 10.

ssor.vaxT DI: HT 0113.—.1.0rti ALT it 0 P gave notice, that
on Thor, lay, May 22, he .hatil,; move for leave to bring in a Bill
to gl:6‘4! relief to Im.alvet t Debtor,. _ _

BAR ST Pl. E.—Mr. E it:: a Li. presented a Petition from
the cotpuration of Whams*. stating. that the extension of
the rig•at of voting for did torau,.:ll wuu!d only aggravate the
evil. as the t izerive franybi,,e wtinlii be tl•nwn ir.to the hands of
roor tt ko would tell In.:re ,t.itobt.ltO acts of bribery,
A:v.; and t:•af the ila•t•Ac tukilit rot entertain any
!,11/C 11111:..41 4tl object. Rcel,taut ordered to be printsd.
Mr. W. ..;•INI tti !•:. • t!ed a retitich Mau N•trwit:ll, signed by
apwards of aa .. •••-, praying tor an ept•tliz4tioo of the
t'o•i! o,,tered to'.ie en tit
g: TAMP:, TA • , te-0•.4 u.—Nlr. W. tarried presented a
' . .• •taitabitaata of .:,thrwich, praying ha whit-
', •iar, t. Ft purported to be signed by individuals who
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.. ar antiteetly were represented in that House,
• ' .•• afieethig tizei• bees, fortanrs, and cheraexts,
e daiiy epacio). The n.m. gent. Heat, gent he did nut know
otether there was any I:ling oti...lir:Te in ii i, wording of the Pe-
i:tea ; but 111:alio did kit., v. that nothing offensive was meant
t..e yeti:toners. The i'• mini was tlan mad, ar.d iaid upon

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Repot: of the Committee of Supt ly on the
I,..•tinaa e., wa, prescnte,l.
ur H. PAW; rLL complaint-4 of the Forces 'thou to Ire retain-
• . n a and : 2).00u •net, fot Irela ; anal
•ro - The qmation aa. not at tn- cour try

t • et et>l!l'i beer t.. pity.
•tt !'•, ciiLt so,•!)1",,x0E ;C.. re
•lotrA: ttr. ...equi,,we in >tlrll
~..tithalr.l.-..tat that tit:siit be

4:4; Ust pw.t CeLieOli.ll.Xl,

to dangerottato public, liberty. Could the country afford it, and
did the state of affairs require it ? For what was the state of the
revenue ! The expenditure wuu estimated at (i'(,ooo,oool.—the
incame at 54.,NI0MOOl.—le:tving a balance of 14,000,0001. wiper.).
tided for. 'Vire produce of the binkin-• Fund for. the current
year, howbver, would be about 16,000",tassl: ; but was it to be
applied to the public scrviez ? The lion. Member reconumendul
that Itlinist:Ts should pay greater attention to the strengthening
of the civil authorities in Ireland; the yeomanry, he thought,
was particularly ailaFted to this service. He alit complained of
the Staff for Ireland as unnecessarily estratvatt. He trusted
th..t our affairs no soon be brought to that state in which the
ravipts would cone] the expenditure of the country.
Col. Davis complained of the extent of the military establish-
ment ; but contended that even if the present numbers wore to
be retained, there might stid be a saving of lqo.oolll. Ile pro-
plied first, the reduenon of three regions is of cavalry, stud the
Elfin; up of those which remained. If instead of reducing SO
men in each regiment, there had been a reduction of lb 'nen,
and the brealdr.g up of three regiments, then would real and
great saving be produced. The retie prindpie would have ap-
plied to the infantry; and die application of the principle to both
Oranches of the service would produce a aping in the cavalry of
30.00 a—in the infantry 90,0)0L—total itn,oool.—while the
forces would be really more edicient. lie condemned •he Junior
Eatablisbinart as impoAng on the country I.4tless expense. He
admitted that the savings 'and reductions whits he suggested
might narrow the means of some brave men and officers. whose
!neon; were elready suificiently narrow; but when they looked
round and sow the di.tresses anion get toe mantiKattning and
working ciasst*, every pe6sible saving ought to be promoted. He
rich d farina of tut; alone, from a eunsiderenon of the state
of the country ; and he thought they tette bound to produce all
possible saving, even ir it were not more than (Hear.) He
concluded with moving an ninsudrutait on a resolution granting
253,77 th. for a branch of the service, that 1313,000.1. be granted
instead.

1.0111 PAL MI; RSTON defended the sytein on which the reduc-
thins had been made, content big that the pre,ent arrangementi
secured better means of re.;aigmenting our forces in the event of
a return of war. As to the saving, sun:thing the proposed reduc-
tions were deemed tolvixrable. it would no: amount to above
31,0001. insaeao of itassncl. and then, is the event of its being
desiret! to increase the forces very considerably, the grente,t in-
convenience would be found to exist. Be maintained that the
greatet saving which could be effected by the stie:o:Aell mode,
would not be worth the sarrirs-e which rat:et be ulnae to efilvt it;
the cour•e was mot tmadrisable, is the intainvenienevi telt at the
commencement of the last war had preyed. There would be
great expert es in robing regiments, and then they would for
some time rennin-usele-s. Ile trusted that the House would not
agree to the amendment, seeing that the-present plan combined
the gre..te,t saving and efficiency with the best mean; of aug-
menting our forces. should a new war unfortunately render such
augmentation requisite. The noble Lora defendett tile junior
estahlishinent of the Military, as of must useful tendeocy.
Sir 11. PARNELr. explained.
Mr. C. Grant, Ali. .1. P. Grant, and Mr. Gmilhurn having
made some observations, the amendment was put and negatived,
but without any division, and the original motion agreed to.
The remaining resolution, were then put and agreed to, eller
acme explanations from Col-pavis, tic. ; the gallery was twice
cleared tor a division. but none toJk place.
SET TLE 31I; T Of THE I'oo R.—NIT. S. BOURNE moved,
that the repent of the l'our Settlement Bill be tuked into further
considerauon
Gen. GABCOYNE moved that the Eill be re-committed.
Mr. MILDMAY, after a short pause in which no one seemed
inclined to second the motion of the gallant General, rose to sup-
port it, stating various additional objections to the Bill.
Mr. C. PHI curs likewise objected to the proposed change in
the law of settlement, and let would move that the report be
taken into fure:er consideration this day nix months, provided the
gallant General would consent to withdraw hi. amendment.
Lord Ga.awu.LE SOBIERISET made a few observations, the
purport of which could nut be heard, from the low tone in which
he spoke.
Mr. FRANELAN El LEWIS spoke at coneiderable length in
favonr of the measure.

Lord MILTON supported the bill : he thought it was a canal-
dent!ile improvement upon Cie old law, which was too compli •
wed to be useful. Ile attributed the aut,-mentation of the poor-
noes to the anxiety to reduce foe price of agricultural labour.
The great manufacturing towns we:c no doubt ileArous of getting
rid of their poor who bud spent their lit ss in the workshop:, of
s'cm-heater or liiiminiehaci.

Mr. W. SMITH, di-1./Ugh Oriel:al,' a friend to the motion,
felt it a duty he owed to very Arge body of his count:units to
oppose it.
The gallery was then elJared for a division. The numbers
were—

}or the recommitment 62 I Against it 921 Alajority 50.
The question that the report be read this day six mouths was
than carried without a div Lion.

.jr. Alderman HEYGATE resented a Petition from the town
ufSutlbury against the Homan Catholic claims.

The ATrortmEY-GENTAtaL gtve nothx, that on Thursday
next he would 1110'e for leave to bring in a bill to prevent lug
Ilitiesty's subjects front engaging in foreign service without his
Majesty's license.
The ether orders of the day were then di,putied of, and the
liothe adjourind oe half-past 2.

1 V ESDAY, MAY 11.

MIAMI:I.IIMM LANISTON presented a
Fenno', from 700 occupiers of land in I)urhant, complaining of
the distressztl state of Agriculture, and praying that the House
would tmpoint a Contmittee to enquire Into the subject. The
Hon. ltlember deemed it his duty to pram'. the Petition,
although he differed from them in opinion. Laid on the table.
Mr. S. WOUTLZY pmented a sintil.tr petition from Hol-
donos.

A IiESSF.D TAXES.-Mr. S. WORTI.!:Y pt2sented Petitions
from sundry Shopkeepers in different patu of the
complainit4 of the hardship under which they laboured in asses-
sing the house. Ahhongh the shop windows might not be asses-
sed, yet the shop was taken as part of the house, anti the house
assessed higher accordingly. I,,Nrept some relief should be pro-
mised, he should bring tisrwartl the subject. (Hear).
Mr. 'l' iti4.sta•neE and Lord LAscst.cts bore testimony
b the Lardsh- ip of the assessments complained of by the
f•trlti•Mers.

Sir M. W. RIDLICV asked when the ntbject of the Asses-3ed
Taxes would be bmught forwanl ; if it were nut ed soon lie
should make a motion on the subject.

The Co.trcEl.t.ott of the ExcHIMItEll niplied, that he had
hoped ,00u to bring the muter forward; but delay had occurred
iu contequetwe of tt.e llank Repo.' almost 'womanly 4uspentl.
bag the otl:er functions of Government.

r. IX/allot %LK that the whole subjtxt required
revitior. Vt hen a slo,p•ttx found imoteticook, ;t
was contrived to be imposed on setvauts; and the hartl4trip of
thu wa. very extvlisively telt.
Mr. BENXIPAT tuought that Its under 14 ought to Fe
exethpteti; 647:1eXel:10101I would be of :Le greuteat use atl over
the country.
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The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER replied, that this
qu;:4tiou 'lvry may, although it was worthy of comidet.