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pressed with its feasibility, and he hoped it would receive
the immediate attention of the Admiralty. There was
another plan to which ho was anxious to direct the notice
of the Government. Our operations in the Sea of A zoff
had demonstrated the utility of small gun rafts, and the
plan to which he was referring had reference to the con-
struction of such rafts. It was a plan proposed by Lieut.-
General Wyvill, who had represented to him that by his
arrangement 60 or 70 of these rafts could be constructed
at less cost, perhaps, than a large-sized gun-boat, to
which they were greatly to be preferred. He was glad
to hear that some of the transports were coming home ;
hitherto there had been a want of system in the
management of that service, but he hoped the time was
coming when our transports would be kept in constant
work either going out or coming home. One word more
and he should have done. Why did not the Government
offer a bounty for sailors? Depend upon it, good sailors
were the cheapest in the end, and it was a short-sighted
economy which withheld the bounty. He hoped, there-
fore, the Admiralty would reconsider that matter.
Mr. W. S. LINDSAY was glad to hear that the Govern-
ment meditated the construction of more gun-boats, but,
at the same time, he must appeal to the Admiralty to give
a pledge that for the present our expenditure upon enor-
mous ships should cease. We had enough of large ships in
the service, and money would be better spent upon gun-
boats. Another point upon which he should be glad to
have information had reference to the floating batteries.
He wanted to know what they had cost, and when they
would be ready to go to sea?
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said the country was in that position
that it had almost entirely to depend upon the Board of
Admiralty ; the navy had never disappointed the country,
and he hoped, now that the house had voted such enor-
mous sums of money, that everything would be done to
insure the efficiency of the service. With regard to Lord
Dundonald's plans, he thought thepublic would be less dis-
appointed with their failure than at any determination not
to put them to the test.
Admiral BERKELEY defended the past policy of the
Board of Admiralty in building large ships, which had
enabled us for nearly two years to retain possession of the
Black Sea and the Baltic. At the same time everything
would be done to expedite the construction of gun-boats,
but at present there was great difficulty in obtaining ship-

Mr. BOI7VERIE said the only object of the bill was to
carry out a convention with France. The truth was, Sir
George Pechell represented a great poaching interest.
The house divided—
For going into committee
Against it
Majority —49
The house accordingly went into committee, and the
various clauses were agreed to.

THE LATE DISTURBANCES IN HYDE-

PARK.

SALE OF BEER, &c., BILL.
On the motion for going into committee,
The Marquis of BLANDFORD complained of the haste
with which this measure was being passed through the
house. The evidence taken before the committee was not
complete, and he thought some further inquiry should bo
made into the working of the act of last session. He
moved that the house resolve itself into committee that
day three months.
Mr. FREWEN seconded the amendment.
Mr. ALCOCK said the bill was one of pressing urgency,
and ought to be passed into law during the present
session.

Mr. H. BERKELEY said the balance of evidence was
so strongly against the act of last session, that the com-
mittee resolved to report that the subject was one which
called for immediate legislation. . .

Mr. KINNAIRD said the evidence was not in the
hands of honourable members, and until it was printed no
further progress should be made with the bill.
Sir J. SHELLEY suggested that the committee might
be put off, not for three months, but for three days. It
was but fair that honourable members should have an op-
portunity of reading the evidence.
The Marquis of BLANDFORD had no objection to alter
his amendment so far as to put off the committee for six
days only.
Mr. NAPIER supported and Lord EBBINGTON opposed
the amendment. _ _

Sir W. JOLLIFFE urged the necessity of an immediate
alteration of the present law.
Mr. GLADSTONE said the house, as a general rule,
should not pass bills founded upon evidence taken before
select committees; but the present measure was one of an
exceptionable character, aad he would like to hear the
opinion of the Government on the subject.
Lord PALMERSTON saw no reason why the house
should not go into committee and consider the clauses of
the bill without waiting for the evidence.
Mr. VILLIERS explained that this bill did not totally
but only partially repeal the bill of last session.
The house divided, when the numbers were—
For going into committee
Against it
Majority

wrightS.
The vote was then agreed to, as was also a vote of 3,0001.
for the wages of artificers employed in the navy stations
abroad. - . -

On the vote for 163,665/. for the building and repair of
ships, &c.,
Sir G. TYLER asked what the floating batteries had
cost, and whether their efficiency lad been fully tested ?
Sir C. WOOD said they had cost 50,000/. each, they had
been tested at Portsmouth, and so far they had been found
successful.
Mr. OTWAY observed that more than two years ago the
late Lord Dudley Stuart attempted to impress upon the
Government the importance and usefulness of small gun-
boats, but his advice was disregarded. However it was not
too late to turn over a new leaf, and he was glad to hear
that it was to be done.
The vote was then agreed to.
Upon the vote of 61,5031. for the purchase of works, &c.
in the Bosphorus,
Sir C. WOOD explained that hitherto these works had
been rented, but it was found it would be cheaper to buy
them outright.
Mr. A. STAFFORD agreed with the right hon. gentle-
man that it would be cheaper.
Mr. W. S. LINDSAY wished the right hon. gentleman
the First Lord of the Admiralty would favour the house
with some information relative to the accident said to have
happened to the Marlborough on her launch. He was also
strongly impressed with the necessity of having a large
available force of small vessels, such as were requisite for
shallow waters, instead of the immense vessels which had
lately been constructed.
Sir C. WOOD said it was quite true that the Marl-
borough did hang a little in her progress towards the sea.
By the last telegraph despatch it was stated that the
lowest point of the tide had passed, and the vessel did not
appear strained or injured in any way whatever. How
the accident happened it was, of course, impossible for
him to explain. With regard to the class of vessels to be
constructed it would be wrong to confine their views to
small vessels, as we must have a reserve of large ships
ready in case of necessity, and the Russians had still a
formidable fleet.
The vote was then agreed to.
A vote of 2,000/. was agreed to for additional medical
stores.
A sum of 1,554,852/. was proposed for the estimated ex-
pense of the Transport Service, beyond the amount already
voted, up to the 31st March, 1856.
Sir CHARLES WOOD said the reason for the increased
vote was mainly the very largely increased service they
had been called upon to perform. Since the time
the estimates already voted were prepared, they had under-
taken, with their allies, to convey a vastly increased force
of troops and stores. e had conveyed the Sardinian con-
tingent of 18,000 nen to the seat of war, and by amicable
arrangement with the French Government we had rendered
them extensive assistance in the conveyance of troops. We
had likewise conveyed 4,003 Turks from Varna to Eupa-
toria. He had stated on a former occasion that the number
of horses thus conveyed was 2,590, but this was very much
understated, as it appeared from the official document he
held in his hand that the correct number was.ll,ooo, and
of these only one horse had been injured. (Hear.) They
had moved since the beginning of the war from one place
to another, of English, French, Sardinians, end Turks, in
all 240,000 men and 32,000 horses. (Hear.) ,That was
the entire amount of service performed, and, on the whole,
with great efficiency and succebs. The organisation of the
Transport Beard had now been brought into much greater
order, and an arrangement had been made which would
secure unity of control to the transport service in the
Black Sea. An admiral was to be sent out to Balaklava,
who would have the whole of this service under his single
control, and would be on the spot continually, in commu-
nication with the Commander-in-Chief.
Mr. H. BROWN must again complain of the very reek-
less manner in which public money was expended on this
braich of the service, the conduct of which would always
be attended with great disappointment and waste unless the
principles upon which it was managed was altered. We hired
transports at an extravagant rate, without taking any security
that the service would bo well performed. The root of the
evil was that we pail for time instead of for service, whereas
the French acted on a system entirely different, and had con-
sequentlytheir transport serviceperformed in a manner much
superior. If such a system were adopted, we should find
that goods were delivered at their proper destinations in
time for the purposes for which they were wanted, and with-
out any confusion between Balaklava and Constantinople.
TheFrenchtransports were takenup in the same manner as
our emigration vessels, for the service to be performed, and
they, besides, offered a bounty to the captain as well as
the owner for making the passage in a certain number of
days. To give an idea of the way in which we were called
upon to pay, it would be sufficient to state that the money
voted for this service would have taken all the soldiers and
materials that had been actually moved, to Australia and
beck twice over, according to the scale laid down by the
emigration commissioners. There was a growing disap-
pointment with the manner in which the public service
was performed, and he could tell the right hon. baronet
that a crisis must come unless a change was made for the
better. As further instances of the ludicrous mistakes which
had been made, he might mention that heavy siege artil-
lery sent out to the Crimea had actually been brought back
to Portsmouth, and that the iron cylinders embarked at
Newcastle in a steamer, of which so much had, been said,
had never actually been landed before Sebastopol, but had
been kept afloat in the vessel, and moving about backwards
and forwards in the Black Sea.
Mr. W. S. LINDSAY was sorry to find that; there had
been very little improvement in this department, and must
express his conviction that it would never be brought into
a satisfactory condition until they had a single'competent
head responsible for its control and management', instead of
a board, with a sufficient staff employed under him. He
thought it an object of great importance that they should
have correct returns of the manner in which these vessels
were employed laid before them.

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The house therefore went into committee. The clause
giving an appeal against a conviction under this act was
withdrawn.

The other clauses were agreed to.
The Marquis of BLANDFORD proposed a clause to limit
the operation of the bill to the metropolitan districts.
(Oh, oh.)
Mr. BERKELEY hoped the house would not assent to
such a clause.

The clause was negatived without a division.
OXFORD UNIVERSITY TESTS.

Mr. HEY WOOD moved that the proposal of a new sub-
scription of Church of England membership for professor-
ships in general learning, in addition to optional religious
tests for the degree of bachelor in the lay faculties at Ox-
ford, is directly opposed to the spirit and policy of recent
legislation, and meets with the disapproval of this house.
After a short conversation the motion was negatived, and
tho house adjourned at half-past two o'clock.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

GOODWOOD RACES. -TUESDAY.

A. dreary commencement. Throughout the morning
rain fell with a steady, drenching persistency, which
effectually deterred pleasure•folk from visiting the course.
The muster of general company was consequently very
scanty. The balcony of the Grand Stand had few occu-
pants ; and the Lawn, where beauty, rank, and fashion
usually assemble, was quite deEerted.
For some time after the commencement of the races
fog and drizzling mist rendered it impossible to see what
was going on until the horses were within a short dis-
tance of the chair. •
"The fielders" were, however, fortunate, all the
favourites, except Honeysuckle, being defeated.
The Stewards' Cup brought out 29 runners, and the
rain and fog having partially cleared off, the effect of
the intermingling colours of the jockeys as the horses de-
scended the hill was extremely gay and picturesque. In
the betting Cineas took the lead at 3 to 1, but in the
race he never once showed sufficiently forward to sustain
the hopes of his backers. Clotilde, on whom several in-
vestments were made at 25 to 1, achieved a somewhat
easy victory.
The most important incident, however, which marked
the sport to-day was the signal defeat of Fly-by-Night,
the first favourite for the Derby, 1856, and the success of
Mary Copp, a filly, which formerly belonged to Lord
Eglinton, but which was recently purchased with others
of that nobleman's stud, by Mr. J. M. Stanley. Prior
to the race 1,500 to 100 was taken about Flyby-Night
winning his engagement to-day and the Derby next
year.
The subjoined return will indicate the character of

the racing.
The Craven Stakes (Handicap) of 5 soya each, with 50
added. Craven course. One mile and a quarter.
(13 subs.)
Mr. Drinkald's Brother to Grey Tommy, by Sleight-
of-Hand, 5 yrs, Est 121 b (Covey) 1
Mr. Stephen alker's Winkfield, 4 yrs, 7st 101 b
(J. Mann) 2
Lord Chesterfield's Typee, 5 yrs, 9st (Flatman) 3
The following also ran :—Virago, Bucksfoot by Ve-
nison, Vexation, Nigel, and Schamyl.
Betting-2 to 1 agst Typee, 4to 1 aget Virago, sto 1
each aget Schamyl and Brother to Grey Tommy. Won
cleverly by a lengtn and a half. Two lengths between
the eeoond and third ; Schamyl was fourth, Vexation
colt fifth, Virago sixth, and Nigel last, each distinctly
separated.

The Lavant Stakes of 50 sovs. each, 30 ft. for 2-yr-olds ;
colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 31b. Certain winners extra.
The owner of the second horse to receive back his
stake. Half a mile. 22 subs.
Sir J. Hawley's Sister to Aphrodite, by Bay Middle-
ton, Bst 31b.
Mr. Howard's Pyrrha, by Pyrrhus the First, Bst 31b

(Wells) 2
Mr. J. M. Stanley's Oltenitza, ast 31b (Bartholomew) 3
The following also ran :—lmposture, Furioso, and
Voivode.

Betting.-5 to 2 agst Pyrrha, 4to 1 agst Sister to
Aptrodite. Won by half a length ; a length and a half
between the second and third. Irnpostura and Furioso
ran in together at an interval of about two lengths behind
Oltenitza. Voivode was three or four lengths in the rear.
Sweepstakes of 300 says each ; h ft, for 4-yr olds ; colts,
8s1; 71b ; fillies, Bst 21b. The second to receive back
his stake. Queen's Plate Course (about 3 miles 5
furlongs.) 13 subs.
Mr. A. Nichol's Honeysuckle (Ternpleman) 1
Mr. Knowles's Baalbec (Bumby) 2
Betting-6 to 4on Honeysuckle, who' took the lead,
kept it, and won by three lengths.
The Stewards' Cup (Handicap), value 300 sovs, by sub-
scriptions of 10 sovs each, with 100 added from the

Race Fund—the surplus to be paid in specie—for all
ages. T.Y C. 60 subs.
Lord John Scott's Clotilde, 3 yrs, 6st 91b ...(Quinton) 1
Mr. Popham's Lord Albemarle, 5 yrs fist 81b (Bates) 3
Mr. Payne's fby Van Tromp, 4 yr, sst 101 b (J. Rogers) 3
The following also ran .—Typee, Balrownie, The Wild
Huntsman, Comfort, Pumicestone, Cineas, Monarque,
Cardigan, Welham, Pharos, Swindler, The Poacher)
Doublethong,Duke of Lancaster, Protest, The Professor,
Le Fripon,__ Daffodil, Sicily, Roving Betsy, Crotchet,
Flacrow, Hartley Buck, Amshe, Elvaston, Sandboy.
Betting-3 to 1 agst Cineas, 9to 2 agst Queen Mab
filly, 12 to 1 each agst Sicily and Balrownie, 15 to 1
agst Le Fripon, and 20 to 1 offered agst any other. 25
to 1 was taken about the winner.

Mr. STAb' FORD said that having paid great attention to
the state of the transport service in the East, he had come
to the conclusion that it was impossible to arrive at a correct
knowledge of the real amount of service performed, and
losses sustained by mismanagement and delay, for the sim-
ple reason that those most concerned in it and who best
knew the facts were precisely the persons who had tho
greatest interest in concealing them. He wished very much
to know whether the Government had considered the pro-
priety of placing the transport service under the limrnediate
control of the Minister of War, in conformity with the opi-
nion expressed by the Duke of Newcastle in his evidence
before the Sebastopol committee. He also wished to have
some information with respect to the present arrangement
for the transport of sick across the Black Sea, and whether
sufficient provision had been made of hospital accommoda-
tion on the passage. He could not, on the whole, congra-
tulate the Government on the state of our soldiers arriving
from the East, and wished much to know whether any
measures were being taken to improve the arrangements
for their reception, and provide additional medical com-
forts and conveniences?

Won by three lengths, the second beating the third
by a neck. The others, pulling up, were widely scat-
tered.

The Gratwicke Stakes of 104 Bova each, h ft, for 3-vr-
olds, colts; Bst 101 b ;fillies, Bst 51b. Certain allowances.
The second to receive 200 sovs., and the third to save
his stake. One mile and a half. 25 subs.
Mr. Howard's Cavalier, Bst 71b (Wells) 1
Mr. Stanley's Dirk Hatteraick, Bst 71b (Bartholomew) 2
Lord Glasgow's Miss Whip filly, 7st 131 b ...(Flatman) 3
The following also ran—Chalice, Ferrara.
A capital race, won by a neck, the second beating the
third by a head, good fourth, Ferrara beaten off.
The Ham Stakes of 100 soya each, h ft, for 2-yr-olds ;
colts, Bst 101 b ; fillies, Bst 71b. Certain allowances.
The second to receive 200 sovs out of the stakes.
T.Y.C. 33 subs.
Mr. J. M. Stanley's Mary Copp, Bst 41b (Bartholomew) 1
Lord J. Scott's Polmoodie, by Melbourne, Bst 71b

Sir C. WOOD had not the least hesitation int telling the
' right hon. gentleman that he did not agree with the Duke
of Newcastle in the opinion he had given relatite to plac-
ing the management of the transport service exclusively
under the direction of the Minister of War. With regard
to the transport of sick in the Black Sea, the sittention of
Government had been given to the matter, and every means
taken to provide the best hospital accommodation on board
the ships for the sick on their passage, as well as to secure
the attendance of a military officer at their embaskation and
debarkation, to see that the service was properly conducted.
With regard to the hospital ships, there were now four
vessels employed in conveying invalids from the Crimea
to Scutari, and he had heard no complaints whatever as
to the working of the system now in existence there.
Sir G. TYLER said that from what he had seen of the
present transport board, and the mode in which it per-
formed its business, he had no hesitation in saying that
Capt. Milne, who was at the head of that board, was most
admirably adapted for the discharge of his duties. (Hear.)
Ho thought there was now no reason to complain of the
mode in which the business of the transport board was
Conducted. (Hoar.)
Captain SCOBELL could not conceive how it was pos-
sible for the transport board to work harmoniously and
effectively as at present constituted.
The vote was then agreed to.
A sum of 755,235/. was next voted for the expenses of
the packet service.

(J. Prince) 2
Mr. Bowes's Fly-by-Night, by the Flying Dutchman,
Bst 41b (A. Day) 3
The following also ran :--Manganese, Blue Bell, and
Tyrius.
Betting-6 to on Fly-by-Night, 10 to 3 agst Pol.
moodie, 5 to 1 agst Mary Copp.
Won easily by three lengths, the second beating the
third by a length. Bad fourth.
Fify Pounds added to a Sweepstakes of 5 sovs. each ;
2-yr-olds, sst 71b ; 3-yr-olds, 7st 91b • 4-yr-olds, Bst
41b ; 5-yr-olds, Bst 121 b ; 6-yr-olds and aged 9st. The
winner to be sold for 100 sovs. T.Y.C. 4 subs.
Captain's Lane's Flageolet, by Hautboy, 3 yrs,

(J. Mann) 1
Mr. J. M. Stanley's Rosaline, 4 yrs ..(Bartholomew) 2
Mr. T. Parr's Equivoque, 3 yrs (Clement) 3
Colonel Wyndham's Dromedary, 3 yrs (Crouch) 4
Betting-6 to 4 agst Rosaline, 7to 4 agst Flageolet.
Won by a head ; three lengths between the second and
third. The winner Wag claimed.
BETTING ON THE COURSE.

The Chairman then reported progress.
THE TURKISH LOAN BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed, without re-
mark from any hon. member.
The Customs Laws Consolidation Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The Ledbury Prebend Bill was also read a third time
and passed.
The Customs Tariff Act Amendment and Consolidation
Bill was further considered, and the amendments agreed to.
The Turnpike Acts Continuance Bill passed through
committee.

Speculation on coming events was very inactive. A
rumour was briskly circulated to the effect that Eparni-
nondas was " scratched ;" but it proved to be incorrect ;
it nevertheless created a considerable sensation. The
most important movements were with reference to
Quince and Homily, both of whom had an advancing
tendency. Not a bet on "The Cup " came under our
notice.

The Militia Ballot Suspension Bill also passed through
committee, with some amendments, proposed by Mr. Peel,
the Under Secretary at War.
LIITED A BILL
The report on this bill, LIwithBILITY amendments,. was brought
up and,considered, and
ordered to be printed.
FISHERIES (BRITISH ISLANDS AND FRANCE)
On the motion for going into committee on th bill,
Sir G. PECHELL called the attention of theis house to
the nature of the convention entered into between this
country and France on the subject of the fisheries. The
present bill would interfere to a very great extent with the
oyster fisheries, in which large classes of the fishermen of
this country were interested. He had no wish to weaken
the alliance between France and England, by the intro-
duction of any cause of disagreement on;the oyster quzs-
tion—(a laugh)—but he thought that the interests of
France in this matter might be respected, without inter-
fering at all with the rights of the British fisherman. He
moved that the bill be referred to a select committee.
Ur. BERESFORD seconded the motion.

The small amount of business that was transacted was
according to the following prices :

GOODWOOD STAKES.
3to 1 agst Epaminoudas.
sto 1 agst Surgeon-General.
6to 1 agst Quince.
10 to 1 agst Homily.
The races will commence this day (Wednesday) at 1
o'clock.

ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS.—The following gen-
tlemen having undergone tb.e necessary examinations for
the diploma were admitteei members of the college at
the meeting of the Court of Examiners on the 30th ult. :
Messrs. Richard Nicholson Lipscomb, St. Alban's ;
George Green Gascoyen, Woburn, Beds ; Daniel Free-
man Stevens, St. Ives, Cornwall ; Arthur Ransome,
Manchester ; Edmund Oldfield, Ashill, . Watton Nor-
folk ; Charles Godfrey Kemp, Leicester ; and Frederick
George A
uldin, Norwood.

Sir C. BURRELL also supported the motion,

INQUIRY INTO THE ALLEGED MISCONDUCT 1
OF THE POLICE.
Examination of Superintendent Hughes—continued
from our impression of yesterday.
Energy of voice and manner was frequently re-
quired ; to a very large extent, the people were "obsti-
nate ; he considered it necessary to interfere with them,
and he considered now, what he did was right, and was
done at the proper time ; it would not have been safe to
have left the people to act as they liked.
Mr. Commissioner Henderson—What in your opinion
would have been the result if they had ?
Witness—lt would be difficult to say. It was neces-
sary something should be done to keep good order and
control, and prevent breaches of the peace. He only
drank half-a-pint of small beer that day with his dinner,
and during the afternoon and evening he drank only tea
and water. He was not excited, but merely positive in
word and leaner. He saw a respectably dressed
female when the railings were cleared partly fall
down. He had heard a good many constables were
struck that day. He occasionally saw stones in the air.
It was a common thing where there were large numbers
congregated for the men to have their truncheons
drawn. It was done at the Botanical fetes. If more
violence was used by the police than necessary it was
not done by his orders. He had no young men there.
He neither struck man, woman, nor child, nor swore
that day but once as above stated.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—lf Superintendent
May had not been ill witness would have been in the
Park with his men. He received on Thursday morn-
ing verbal orders from Sir Richard Mayne to
clear the rails if the crowd in front were turbulent. He
believed he was in the room alone with Sir Richard
Mayne. No further conversation took place between
them relative to the day's proceedings than that above
stated. His impression was that Sir Richard Mayne
did not anticipate any disturbance in the park that day.
Some of the placards alluded to by Sir Richard Mayne
in his evidence, were brought to his office. He believed
they were taken from the hoarding and not purchased
at a shop. He was not aware of any one having sur-
veyed the park before this day ; but Sir Richard
Mayne gave orders if any stones were there to
have them guarded. He passed the place where
they were twice before he noticed them. Had he seen
them the day before he should have reported it. It
was the duty of the constable on the beat to have re-
ported it the previous day. If he had been the super-
intendent of the A division, ho did not think he should
have sent an inspector to survey the ground. Inspector
Darkin was the acting-inspector during Superintendent
May's illness, when he gave instructions to the men to
move the crowd back 30 or 40 yards. It was intended
to keep the line then, but it was difficult to keep a line
after the collecting of the people ; probably, in
that respect, the number of police was too
small. A small body of police with a large assemblage
of persons required extra exertions to be used. The
number of the police might easily have been increased
by 300 or 400 men. He did not know if Lord Alfred
or Lord William Paget was struck by the police. After
the eel was taken away the crowd became very
tumultuous. He thought there was rather more
hooting and hiseing at the carriages in the Park
than at the police cabs. A large number of the crowd, in-
cluding some well-dressed persons,appeared "to be imbued
with disturbance in their mind, and obstinately inclined."
It was necessary, when the police had anything to do, for
them to do it resolutely. He did not think more per-
vasion and less force advisable on this day. When he
ordered the men to use their etaves he meant moderate
use only, and if the people would not move when re-
quested to strike them moderately. There was nothing
offensive in the manner in which he used his whip. He
had had some experience in crowds. He had been pre-
sent tstenty-two times on the Derby course. The noise
there was very different to that in the Park. Trifling
circumstances were as likely to make a crowd mischie-
vous as jocular. He was in the disturbances of 1848,
and was the second man who went up Calthorpe-street
on that occasion. A policeman was stabbed there. The
truncheons were more fully used there. The men were
not at all disgusted with their day's work. He thought
Mr. Clarkson was rather too lenient in withdrawing the
charges before the magistrate. He had been en-
gaged in many cases of emergency, and that
made him positive in his manner. An individual police-
man, although acting in a body, might exercise discre-
tion in using his staff.
Re-examined by Mr. Ellice—The report of the men
seen with stones and sticks was made:before the police
were moved off the grass.
By the Commissioners—He ordered the rails to be
cleared once on the Serpentine side, and three or four
times on the other side. He saw persons partly fall
when the rushes took place, but he saw no one on the
ground. He requested a picket should be sent for
to get some soldiers out of the park. He posi-
tively denied that he was excited that day, or that.
he struck man, woman, or child. He received no other
instructions than those put in by Sir R. Mayne, and the
verbal communication witness had above stated. He
made a report of Sunday's proceeding a few days after-
wards to Sir Richard Mayne, a copy of which was
banded to the Commissioners, and read by the officer of
the Court.
Superintendent May has been in the force 26 years
this day, entering it as a superintendent. Previous to
that he was 25 years sergeant-major in the Guards. He
was at the police-office on Saturday, and was to have
had command on the let, but he was taken dangerously
ill on Saturday night, and was unable to go on duty on
Sunday. Sir Richard Mayne gave him the general in-
structions on Saturday, and he was to receive his final
instructions on the Sunday morning.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—Sir Richard Mayne
did not in any conversation with him the previous week
contemplate a riotous meeting on the Sunday. Eight
men were generally on duty in the Park on Sunday
afternoons. Sir Richard Mayne did not consult him
relative to those proceedings. He had a conversation
with him relative to the number of men to be stationed
in the Park. He inquired of the superintend-
ents what was likely to take place, and referred
to the placards that had been issued. The placards
were read at the police-office, but witness did not believe
there would be a "tea party" in the park that after-
noon. (Laughter.)
Superintendent Martin has been 22 years in the service,
and was appointed superintendent in 1850. The ground
assigned to him was very quiet, which was contrary to that
on the east side of the Serpentine. The conduct of the
crowd there • was very disorderly. This witness
gave similar testimony to Inspector Hughes
as to the character of the crowd, and the
means taken by the police to preserve order,
addirg that a carriage and pair of horses which ran off
nearly came in contact with him. The carriage drive at
one time was impassable from the number of people con-
gregated there. The mare he was riding was struck in
the head with a stone, which made her stagger and feel
uneasy for a considerable time after. He made no ob-
jection to his men drawing 'their staves, because
the people of London were used to it. (Loud
laughter.) Nothing more was done that day than
was necessary to preserve order. He saw no one struck
that day. If the people could have been kept altogether
away from the railings it would have been better.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—lf any acts of vio-
lence have been committed by the police, it was not by
his order, and they must abide the result. He reported
on the Friday previous that he believed a large number
of persons would assemble in the Park on the Ist, to ex-
press their abhorence of the Sunday Trading Bill,
and others from curiosity. The number of po-
licemen to he sent to the Park rested en-
tirely with Sir R. Mayne. There were ten times more
people in the Park that day thap he had ever seen before.
To have carried out the order stricly, to keep the people
from the rails, would have required 300 or 400 more men.
The crowd was not so good tempered as crowds gene-
rally. He did not order any rushes of the police to dis-
perse the people as deposed to by so many witnesses.
The police would not take the advice given them, and
bring out six-pounders on another occasion. He did not
see Superintendent Hughes strike any one with his whip,
nor did he appear unusually excited ; Superintendent
Hughes was a cautious man when on duty.
Superintendent Gibbs has been 19 years in the force,
and three years superintendent. He was in the Park on
the Ist July. He described the general conduct of the
crowd that came under his notice in similar terms to the
last two witnesses. He saw pieces of wooden hurdles
thrown into the Drive. His men were not called into
action.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—He was unable to
say whether the hurdles were broken wilfully or by ac-
cident.
By the Commissioners—He only saw one wounded
person, a boy, in the Park. He was wounded in the
head, and was being taken to the hospital.
Inspector Coomas was in charge of Vine-street sta-
tion on Sunday. 72 prisoners were brought there
from the Park, charged with riotous conduct and resist-
ing the police, and 10 for felony. 13 prisoners were
previously in the cells, charged with various offences.
11 of these weze disorderlies and 2 felonies. The cells
had been cleaned in the usual course. The
rioters were put in the upper cells, which were
part previously occupied with the disorderlies. When
these cells were filled he put the rioters as they came in
in the lower cells. He caused the doors of the cells to
be opened to admit air in consequence of the complaints
made.
Mr. Commissioner Armstrong—Did it not occur to
you that some of these persons might have been allowed
to be in the passages ?
Witness—He opened the doors one at a time, and al-
lowed them to walk in the passage, a privilege which
some availed themselves of. The long cell was wet in
the centre, which was the fault of the occupants. He
gave them the beet accommodation he could.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—He thought it was
not such as a gentleman would, ike.
Mr. Chief Commissioner Wortley—No distinction
should be made of persons in such places.
Mr. Commissioner Armstrong said the commissioners
thought it exceedingly wrong so many persons should
have been locked up in such a place.
Witness said he was surprised at the large number of
prisoners brought to the station from the Park. A
number of reserved policemen occupied rooms in the
station, which by a little arrangement might have been
made available for the prisoners. He did not say as the
prisoners came in " Sir Richard Mayne is gathering in
his harvest." (Laughter.) If comfort compatible with
safety could be given at thellstation it was granted. Mr.
Nair appeared comfortable. He was lying down, and
as he was violent when he came in witness thought it a
reaction.
The Court adjourned at 4 o'clock till the following
morning s,t eleven.