The National Register.
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'THE NATIONAL nEGISTF,RI

the College of Edinburgh ; 3,4941. for Repairs of Henry the
Vitas's Chapel; and 741001. for expenee of gold coinage.
Mr. J. P. GRANT heard this Vote with some surprise, after
the disappearance of the (told .Coiii; and:mote so to find that
eight millions ofgold were to hiseoincdowlien not a Sovereign
could he kept in the country.
Mr. W. PULE said, the law of the land was, that the Mint.
w•►s bound to coin all bullion sent to it for that purpose ; and
sufficient for eight millions had been sent by the Bank to be
coined; and he had no doubt but that, like the seven millions
already coined, would f:'o to their coffers to provide for cash
payments. The public was bound to pay the expenee of new
coinage.
Mr. J. F. GRANT thought it an absurdity to suffer the law
so to r. main.
Mr. Fisteay wished that there should be no law to provern
the exportation of gold•coin ; fur as the law now stood, it
must he melted down ainkarried abroad; and then we had the
expence of coining it Grain.
After some further observations the Vote was agreed to.
The next Vote was 54,001 to make good the deficiency in
the Silver Coinage; ant; 20,00n1.'for printing the Votes of the
House...—Report if-morrow.
Mr. BIESPIETT moved for the re-committal of the'•F3dearlers
Conviction Rewards Bill, which wasaceetled to.
The Arrostsi elf Gs:NS:HAL objected to doing away •withl
rewards altogether; but he proposed nu Amendment, that
rewards•should be in the discretion of the Judges. The Hon.
Gent. observed, that should his Amendment be adopted, lie
would then:propose a clause, making it a subject of• action on
information for penalties, if any pe:san•alwuld take g higher •
fee or reward than that mentioned.
Sir S. ROMILLY .thought, if the Amendment of his Hon.
and Learned Friend was adopted. it would do away the effect
of the Bill altogether. The object of his Hon. Friend who
brought terward this Bill was to do..away with the rewards
altogether, and thereby prevent isle inducement, •in future,
to commit such crimes as those of which Vaughan, Brock,
and Pelham had been guilty, by removing the inducement
which these re-warils held out to them.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL supported the clauscirreposed
by the Attorney General, which he said would have the effect
of doing away rertianty of reward, and allowithe Jude? to give.
whatever reward he cousidered fit, whether conviction, took
place or not.
fair J. MACKINTOSH considered the Amendment as .an.
necessary.
Mr. Serj. COPLEY was in favour of the Amendmentodaich
took away the certainty of reward.
Mr. T. CounT9 ET supported the A mendinent; whith
sidered as going nearly hand in hand with the Bill, except in
the extent of reward, and in taking the reward out ofthe purse
of the Country, and charging it on the Crown ; and in thisdif•
ferenee he preferred the Amendment to the original Bill.
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought the original Bill made the re-
ward too general, and if adopted, would become a solace of
heavy expence to t)•r Crown.
After a few words tiern Mr..Bathorst, Mr. Bennettrand
others, the amendment was agreed to. The House resumed,
the Report was received, and ordered to be takes into fur-
ther consideration on Friday.
'F he other Orders 'were then disposed of, and the House
adjournedat oue.o'clock.__

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TUESDAY.
'PAR:AAMENITARY REFORM.
SirT. BURDETT ID esent:ll::3Pcts.tions from Leeds,(signed.
as we understood, by '2O oaeb, prayiug • the early attention of
the House to the subject et' Parliamealary •Reform, stating
the evils of an oligarchy, and that ausual Parliaments and
universal suffrage were the only moans of restoring the con.
atitittion. _ _ _

The Petitions were received. The first of thentseas read,
and ordered tee be printed.
Sir F. 141:RUETT then presented 4R-similar Petitions from
Halifax. Ordered to lie on the table.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Mr. C. Wits.N adverted to the Report of the Committee, re-
sp.cting the breach of the privileges of the House committed
by Mr. Ferguson in the county of Lanark, who was. now in
custody, and stater! his intention to move (on Friday next as
we understood), an Address 4o the Prince Regent, praying
for his removal trom an office he held as a &urethra of lazes
under the crow is in Scotland.
BANK OF ENGLAND.
Mr. GRENFELL Inured fur accounts of monies paid to the
Bank by Government, from 179; to 1816 inclusive, on ar-
cuate. of remunerations for receivingeleposits on loan., stating
the rate of charges, distinguishing each year, and giving the
amount of the whole money so reeeived.
Mr. S. THotisTov, in a low tone, made some observations
on the trouble the Motion would give to the Bank.
Mr 'MANNING made some observations,hot in an inaudible
voice. He denied that the profits of thee Bank were in the
proportion thaeliad been stated ; noel he was sure that it would
be found that in the transactions alluded to, the nation had
received considerable ,advantages. The broad statement':
which were made were injurious, not only at home, but in the
view of foreign relatiofts.
Mr. S. TetortitTatt said, that he had not objected to 'the
Motion, though he had adverted to the trouble it might or.
cosion. The accounts were ordt red.
SUPPLY.
The Report of the Committee of Supply was brought up, and
the sums of 13,5001. for lir. Burney's library, of 1,500,u001.
for extraordinary expenses of the army, and of 50,111101. for
the same service in Ireland, mere agreed to, The remainder,
of thaßesolutions were then agreed to.
BANK RESTRICTIONS.
T.rwis rose to gist notice, that it was his eirstention
to propose that certain words should be iatroduced into thee
preamble of the Bill fin continuing the Bank rests Actions,
instead of the words which now stood there • but as tee wished
to comailt Ito emit/efficacy 01 the House, he beggtql to ask
what stage of the Bill would be thouidit most, proper Jor bus
Motion.
The 01iNrkLILOR of the EXCEIEQVER hoped that they
House would allow the Bill to pass through a Committee pro
forma. He world elen propose such a preamble as he con-
ceived to lee proper, aid 100 leport was brought up, if
any Hon. Gent. thought a different preamble ought to be
adopted. it would then lee .n his power to relative J.
Mr. J. P. (-MAST observed, that the fellellit aeceu:nt of
income acid expenditure which lead,beeie laid ,before the House
Wad bean lately withdrawn. and, therefoee, he mew. wished to
knoteamtimi td,e. might expect to reetsive tlagain.
,The Cn., NeL!,/.olt of the Lyrukuttlitt-said, it writ peerect_,
ty true that the account hail been wlthdrawnras certain esti:
mates from Ireland had nut arrived ;
_but it would be corn
pteted in a ',rep short tituf7 and laid before .the Howe.

MAY 11.

BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Sir F. Butt tierr begged to call the etteution of the House
to the subject to which he bad alluded. It was his lotto-
tioa to muse for the discharge of Thomas Ferguson, who
had been committed to Newgate, by cn tier of the House, for
having endeavoured to interfere with the freedom of election,
by writing and senilidg-a letter to Mr. Dykes, to influence
Iris vote. In bringing forward the case of title Individual, i:
was impossible for hint not to feel that the grossest injustice
bad been committed, when he called to mind what had been
the proceedings of the home when the Noble Lord opposite
(Lord Castlereagh) bad beau found guilty of greater corruji.
tiomend yet was sufferedlo escape unpunished. All persons
should.be treated with the utmost impartiality by that House.
It was their duty to show the country that the laws of Eng.
Land held one even tenour, and that Ilw.pnor or hugarle could
not be punished when the rich or high were .allowed to
commit be same acts with impunity, .4ilien the question
respecting the conduct of the NeLt;:rtoril in that transaction
was brought before the 115 use he (Sir F. Burdett) did not
press for any severiq of punishment. They came to a re-
solution, that a:, it was a matter proceeding and not com-
pleted, and thoigh they ought to be very jealous of.the free-
dom of electiomehey did not think it necessary to4irect any
meavises to be adepted against the Noble Lord. The Noble
was a wholesale dealer in this species of traffic; lie was for
buying a-sea:.;:ttitiFerepison l:ad only.attempted to infinence
a vote. The Hon. hart here adverted to the case of Mr.
l)ick, who deraig the administration of Mr. Perceval was in•
troduced into the House, under the tuust corrept and aggravat-
ed circumstances, but who after his admissal was under the
necessity of resigning his seat because he could not reconcile
it to his conscience to vote sink' the party that placed him in
it. For his own part, he could not understand how Ferguson,
who hod followed the example of the Noble Lord, beet fol-
lowed him " hand passibusaynis," should be punished, while
the Noble 'Lord himself had been so protected. He should
not then detain the House any longer. This case lay in a very
na ri.ow compass indeed, and therefore lie should conclude by
moving, " That Thomas Ferguson be discharged forthwith.'
Loud CASTLEREAGH wan; surprised that the Hon. Bart. had
addressed so much of hiterpeech to him. He knew nothing
of the c..se of Ferguson ; but it was impossible nut to know
the object with Whoa the Hon.Bart.had brought ferward his
Motion. It was not out of feclintr to Ferguson, ant iii support
of Clot common cause towards which he had directed all his
efforts. 'Whenever any meeting took place in the metropolis,
at which the lion. Bart. thought that he had lostsome.part of
his popularity, he inituediately.came down to the House, and
started sonic question in the hope that he should regain it.—
This was the object, and the only object of the.present mo-
tion ; and havirneessted this, lie must leave the discussion of
Ferguson's ease to those Members of the House who were
better acquainted with it.
Mr. C. Wvsa did nut anderstand how any one could argue
' that, because.the,flotisc of Commons omitted to do its duty 9
yea rs.ago, it Was. nut to discharge it now. To that vote, he
was nu party ; heswas, indeed.-iii favour of further proceed.
iiigs was a precedes; that stood upon their journals, but
whether to be followed or notwas a matter fur theirs:end:kris.

tion. It would be a melancholy circumstance, if one•Parlial.
ment omitted to do its duty, that future Parliaments -should
neglect what the law and the constitution► of the. country re-
quired thereto du.
Col. WOOD said, perhaps the Hon. Bart. might remember
the voting in a very severe contest in an election for Middle-
sex, when, after a pull of .13:41a; s, 300 millers were prevailed
on to vote, for a innt which was not then built; and the
sheriffs, it might be remembered, had been -sent to New gate
fcr partiality to the Hon. Bart. The election was declared
void, however. The House would not forget the result of
the ;second election, and es to the third,.it appeared oil a
scrutiny that of fair votes, the Hutt. Bart. could only mutter
800 against 3000.
Mr. BRAND said, that although he acquiesced in many of
the arguments urged by the Hon. Bart.if the Motion should
be agreed to, all 'distinctions on matters like that of Ferguson
were at au end ; -aud they-would be bound to pass over all
infringement of privilege. for the time to conic. Ile should
consequently oppose Ike Motiuu, and support the sentence.
How ttiose who had voted 013 the former Istotiun could vote
in an opposite manner in that case lie couldmat conjecture.—
• t. was fur them to determine, not him.
Sir F. BVRDETT begged to observe, with reference to cer-
rain allusions to the Middlesex election:;, that it had been
eonttuded with a great deal of legal argument, that tk:\ votes
were good, and the Committee had never come to a decision
on that question. They got rid of teem, On the ground that
they had nut been assessed fur the land tax ; that was the way
in which they got rid of thew. The Hon. Member had re-
minded him of the sheriff's. They ought to base declared
the majority in his favour. He hail a majority. The. votes
could not be struck out. The House had nut felt themselves
competentto settle the question, but had cot tid of it, and
in the short way lie had related. One of the sheriffs was
nut right, and lie had been sent to Newgate' though the
other bad escaped. It would be futile to suffer his Motion to
go to a division , tor one setof men would have to vote against
him from consistency ; and the othen.in despite of the incon-
sistency, would vote against hint : so that between consistency
and inconsistency, he would not press the motion to the vote.
Tire Motion was thennegativod without a division.
ALIEN BILL.

Load CASTLEREAGII;III:II;ttbj;tIPject to which he was
then desirous of calling the attention ot. the House was one
whicichatl so recently been discussed, that it would not make
it necessary for him to address (bent at-ally great length. It
was considered uecessae•y for a further period to continue the
Bill for the Regulation of 4 lieus. ,Ile wished Hut to oppose
the reception of those foreigners who might visit this country
with every mark of confidence and hospitality consistently
with the security of the country. But the first duty was
to attend to the eiecurity of the country. lie should not
wish a permanent law upon the subject, though there were
many a Ito had held that it might be consistent with pro
p:iety, that sonic revelations upon the subject of the resign;
tion of Aliens might become apart of the permanent system .
this country's police, and be conducive to its hest inteeests,
The regulations of Ole present .law were of a much mild.
character from that of 1793. 111th respect to the two bull
he thought right to make a few observations. The law enact,
in 1/U3 proceeded upon the principle that all Aliens we
from ,the rely fact of their being Aliens, open to suspici•
anti there. was a fair presumption. that they either slid c.
or might.•ronle in prejudice, and.v.ith evil intentions to
peace and safety of the count. y. \After the Peace of Audi
the proceeildig of the gover►uueut had been one of gr.
caution. .'1 bey thought, however, that peace being restut,
the presitintitlon ails, that foreigners came with ionocent
' tension•, and nut. itditi hostile designs : it was thought ads
I able uo iooget .to..leave a special icatuctwn against fore .

MAY 11.

era, but without such a caution they received the power of
keeping away people whose character and conduct showed
that they came with power to net ins manner dangerous to
the country. The Noble Lord' then adverted to the danger.
ens connexions existing on the Continent' in avowed hostility
to all established Cinv.trnmente. It entrld not be donhteti, •
that the late atteiapt against the life of our Illustrious
personage lavit originated from theic machinations, mid
was the result of a system for the overthrowing of all
serial order in all countries. Upon all these grounds
it was that he submitted the propriety of continuing
the mild system of Alien regulation in this conetiy.—
They had lief the-derision of learliatnent upon it in 1802, in
1411, and in 1814, after Bnonaparte ceased to reign in France.
He trusted that Europe would subside into that tranquil state
of good.gosernment ;. but things might take a less favourable
torn. On tlrese ground's as he had before stated, it was that
lie proposed the continuance of the measure. The Noble
Lord then moved for leave to bring in a Bill to continue an
Act of the 50th of his present Majesty, for the regulation of
Aliens arriving in and resideut in this country, in. certain
cases.
Lord ALTIIORP said, it wain strange argument of the Noble
Lord's that since Alien Bills were necessary in time of war,
they should be continued in time of. peace. He protested
against it, not for any abuses t'aat had been committed, but on
stecostit of the principle on which it rested.
Sir S. Itoristr.xt could not enter into any avrangement that
would prevent him front stating his decided objections to
such a Pill iu every stage of it. Such a Bill was so contrary
to the principles of the English constitution, to the policy of
our ancestors, and to the feelings of the people of this country,
that nothing but a very strong case of necessity could warrant
the proposal of it. The Noble Lot& had shown no swell case.
He had opposed it in 1816, and a forliuri, ha most oppose it
now. lie should be unworthy of the protection lie and his
ancestors bad received against persecutions, such as were at
the present moment snffereil in Spain—he sl hi be ungrate-
ful for the advantages Ire hail derived from English kiudness
to Aliens—he should he unworthy of those benefits, Whet did
not struggle to extend the saint benefits to others. They
merely desired to bOallosyeil to remain in peace tinder the
supreme protection of the British eonstitatio,.. By the re-
turn* before the House there appeared to be not less than
20,000 persons who were lava manner naturalized, who had
fixed upon this country as their choiee ; auct.those persons
were now to be banished from the country at any moment
when Ministers chose; nay, what was infinitely worse, when
any individual, front private motives, chose to complain of
ahem. The Learned Member viewed the Bill as derogatory
to the character of the nation, and merely subservient to
the evil designs of other countries, as such he would resist it.
The House then divided upon the qiiestion, that leave be
given to bring in the Bill.—Ayes 55—Noes Its—Majority iu
favour of aloe 13i11, 37.
The Bat was next read a first time, and ordered lobe read
a second time on Friday.
The Bank Restriction Bill was committed, and was ordered
to be printed.
SCOTCH BURGH.
Sir S. Rosttlxv said, lie held a Petition in his hand respect-
Slte state of the Scotch Burghs, which well merited the at.
tenting of those who had takenthat subject into consideration.
The Petition prayed, that as Parliament lend hegua to legis-
late on the subject, it would restore to them their ancient
right of electing their own Magistrates. The Honourable and
Learned Member observed that this bad recently been done
with the happiest success in the borowgit of Moutrose.
The Petition was then bronglit up and read. It complained
that for the last 50 years the whole influence of ibe corpora-
tion bad been in the family of the Earl of Eglintowu. It
was ordered to lie on the table and to he printed.
The other business entered into was of minor importance.
t Adjourned.

WEDS ESD AY.

IRISH GRAND JURY PRESENTMENTS.
Mr. V. FITIGLIIALO Moved for leave to bring in a Rill to.
provide for the more Aeliiierate investigation of Acconato
presented by c.romd Juriec in Ireland relative to Puldic
Works ; ante for the better accounting for monies raised ou

swelt presentments.
After a short debate the Notion was agreed to.
GAMY:IA 14. S.
' Mr. G. !lasses moved the Order of the Day lor the se-
elsnd reading of the Puri•lnvie Prevention Bill.
Mr. t7enwr.si exp•essed a wish Mr the postponement of
fire order, as the House was solidi), isnot as many Gentlemen
were absent who were disposed to take a pact its the discus-
sion.
Mr. G. BANIEFS thinking it desirable that this Bill should
pass within the Session, felt it impossible to accede to the wish
of the Honourable Gentleman. He professed a desire to
kiwi the Game Laws revised and amenttett, but while they
were suffered to exist in their present state it was not tolera-
ble that they should operate only against the poor seller of
game, while the rich purchaser, who was really the cause of
the violation of the laws. enjoyol per feet impunity.
Mr. Courses deprecated the idea of any addition to the
odious system of the Game Laws, under the operatiest of
which no less than 1200 persons were imprisoned within the
last year. In his opinion, game ot:ght to be the property of
the oeetsyler, and thus the game wonkl be much better pre-
served than it was at present, under a code of laws so re-
volting to justise, that no one considered it a moral offence to
kill game. Bnt independently of the hostility of those laws
to the principle of equithble property, they were peeuharly
kividiuus, from the distinction which they drew between
tended and every other description of proprietors.
NI. BRAND spoke against the Dill.
Mt. LOCKHART thonght the 1:111 unnecessary, and ineffi-
cient to the object which it professed to have its view. He
concurred, however, in the opinion, ihat the Game Laws re-
quited revision.
Sir C.lluuttEt.r. was an advocate for the Bill ; but wishing
that the principle of this measure sboold be discussed in a
luiler Hons., he proposed the adjournment of the debate till
Monday se' 'gilt.
Colonel Woon supported the opisien 311 to the justice of
making game the property of those by whom it was fed.
After a few Nolte obsersatimis from Sir C. Burrell and
MI- O. Baiskes, the Motion fur the Adjournment of the De-
bate was agreed to.
'l•lst. other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the
House adjourned at 11 o'clock.
Tuurtscay.
FORGED J%AM NOTES.
Mr. CANNING prevented a Petition from Liverpool, cern.
filming of the grievancesoceasioned by the number of forged
B 111 k of England notes, kid praying for consideration o
aubJect. There were no plates more interested than the

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town of Liverpool and the county of Lancaster in the means
of detecting and preventing the circulation of forged notes,
uf which their general circulation was almost wholly con.
posed.
General Gssoovna corroborated what the Right Hun.
'Gentleman had said, and' observed that it had been in con.
templation in Lancashire to form seseral private hanks. 'File
small notes now in circulation were tit the dates of IBIS, RIM
Itil6. The Bank ought to make some exertionslo present
forgeries.
Mr...?. SMITH adverted to something said on a former oc-
casion-respecting the Bank pruseentions; and übservell, that
the live«itiicers employed. were respectable persons, and dill
not enmmence prosecutions without instructions front the
Bank directors.
Mr. MarsviNosai.l, that any fault as to the catcher of
Bank notes being a considerable time in circulation in Lan-
cashire, rested with the holders, and not with the Bank, who
had given repeated notices in the Gazette, with the signature
of the speaker, according to the actrstaring their readiness
to exchange notes for other notes er for specie. If any im-
portant suggestion could be given,. it would be met with an
anxious deslie on the m.rt of the Bonk to remedy any evils.
Mr. CANNING said, be meant to impute no blame to the
Bank ; but tile evil most be admitted to be great io a large
town like Liverpool, which, relying almost vachisively for its
circulating medium on Bank of Eng.:and notes, must title
a particular interest in the prevention it torgel les. The Pe.
tion was received, and ordered to be printed,.
Doc Tia IS CS OF TRE CHt RCH.
General THORISTUN moved for leave to bring in a Bill to
repeal parts of acts of the with and :Mill of Charles 11., re-
quiring the declarations denying transubstintiation, and slat-
ing the worship of the church of Rome to be idolatrous. He
hatt given notice of his Motion for a considerable time, and
was ghul to find no Petitions against it, Its there were against
the Catholic emancipation.
Ntr. W. Small seconded tho Motion fur leave to bring in
the Bill.
Lord CkSTLElttAfai said he had no doubts of the good
intentions of the Hon. and gallant General but be appre-
headed that on such a subject it would be deemed necessary
to refer to a committee of the whole House. He could-see
no good end in entering into any arguments or details on
doctrinal points. It was only forcing on the Bowe, the Ca-
tholic question, which did not appear very likely to come de
in anyother shape this session. Ile should therefore move
the previous question.
Mr. IV. SMITH said he did not wish them to enter into any
partienlars on this question ; but he had seconded the Mo-
tion rohear what might be said abort it. Ile wished to pro.
moterivore of political and social nuion among the people at
large, and to refrain from reproaches, which conduced to
nothing but bad purposes.
The previous question was carried,. The report of the
Loudon Duck Bill was received'.