The National Register.
London, England, 1820-09-10 00:00:00

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31mptrial 43arliantent.

DOUSE OF LORDS.
moNnAv, SUPT. 4.

The proceedings this day consisted only of the exami-
1151i011 of one man who was discharged for robbing the
l'rineess—of a journeyman plasterer, and a common boat
man. The latter, among other things, swore that he saw
Bergaini, kiss the Princess, in the presence of himself and
ten other boatmen !! In short AU egregious was their
evidence, that the Queen's Counsel seemed not to think
sheen worth cross-examining. They all appear to have
been supported by Government for nearly two yeais !!
To *nye, seri'. 5.
The only witelep Ps:amines' this day in the }Loose of
Loads against the Queen was a person of the name 11'
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Sacchi, but muscle of the evidence adduced is too gross and
indecent for publication ; the rest is wholly unimportant.
This fellow, who acted as mutant Courier, and who, in
his cross-examination, admitted he had assailed himself of
the use of half a dozen different names, swore to some
such acts oil the port of the Queen and Bergami, as would
prove to demonstration that she was not only the most
abandoned of leer sex, but the most foolish woman breath-
ing. Onr readers may judge, front her eondetct since her
return, how far such an epithet may he applicable to her.
Some of our Subscribers complain that we have been over-
fastidious in our accounts of the evidence. In reply, we
can only regret that our example has not been followed by
every Newspaper in the kingdom.
Lord KENYON gave notice, that lee should move to-
morrow fur an account' of all sums of money paid to the
Wren since her arrival in this country.
"'he House afterwards adjourned.
weastEsna'r, SEPT. 6.
At ten o'clock prayers were read, and the roll having
been called over,
Lord KENYON rose and said, that seeing a Nettle Earl
(Liverpool) in his place, he now begged to make the two
motions of which he had yesterday given notice. He
would not detain the House with repeating the reasons on
which he grounded these motions,but content himself with
observing, that, considering the strong public feeling
which existed ou the subject, lie thought the House would
mot l doing their ditty if they did not afford to the public
the fullest iulormation as to every thing regarding it. 'f he
noble Lord concluded with making his motions:—
I. For copies of all correspondence between his Ma-
esty's Government and her Majesty's Advisers, on the
subject of pecuniary supplies, since the month of June
last.
Idly. For an account of all supplies of money made to
l.er Majesty since her arrival in this country.
Lord KING ob d, that the motions submitted to
the House only applied to the expenses on one side of the
pending inquiry ; but, is his opinion, the Howse ought to
inquire into the expences of the whole transaction. It
must have been very evident to those who had attended
to the evidence given at their Lordships' Bar, that large
aunts of money had been received by several witnesses—
as much, indeed, lead been distinctly confessed—and it
was important to know by what authority their payments
had been made, and from what funds they had come.
Lord LIVERPOOL had no objection to the motion of
the noble Lord ; and, as to the observations made by ano-
ther noble Lord opposite, he would only say, that at the
proper time there would not be the least difficulty in lay-
nig before Parliament an account of every item of expen-
diture connected with the present transaction, though at
present suede an account could obviously not be rendered
without the greatest inconvenience.
Lord LAUDERDALE thought that any account of
expences connected with the present proceeding ought to
embrace the whole expences, as well on one side as on the
other. He doubted whether lie ought to agree to so
limited a motion as that before the House.
Lord DARNLEY agreed with the noble Lord (Lau-
derdale) who had just spoken, as to the propriety of
leaving an account of the whole expences.
'Elie LORD CHANCELLLOR suggested. that instead
of the words " Her Majesty's Advisers," " Her Majesty's
Counsel and Agents" should be substituted.
Lord Kenyon agreed to this alteration.
The first part of the motion, in this amended shape,
was then put.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the Contents had it.
Lord LAUDERDALE thought the Non contents hail
it, and demanded a division.
The Howse then divided, when the numbers were—
Contenia, 133—Non contents, 711—Alujority for the Mo-
tion, 60.
The second part of the motion was then put, and
adopted without a division.
The LORD CHANCELLOR now suggested, that the
opinion of the Judge's should be asked as to two points :
Virg, Whether an answer having been elicited on e
cross-examination, relative to a confe.sitm made by a
witness in a conversation with a third person, the whams,
may he re-examined as to the conversation preceding
that confession, and which led to it?—Secondly, AVlee-
titer a quiestAin may be asked in re-examination, as to the
conversation subsequent to that confession. These points
were submitted to the conaidee satiate of the Judges who
nmediately retired to consult.
While the Judges were absent Mr. Brougham com-
plained of a unarepreseadatiou of what he had said the
day berme in one of the 31orning Papers.
The LORD Cil \ NEELLOR said, that if the House
allowed the publication of what passed within these walls,
they had right to expect the reports should be made cur-
At a quarter before one o'clock the Jnelges returned
and delivered their opinions. They all agived, witli the
exception of Mr. Best, that the vestion peopounded to
the widneas could not be put by Counsel.
E.Judge BEST, in a long statcineeet, gave his mesons for
dAering twin his Learned Brethren. His opinioll was,
th it the ends of justice nn the Courts of We:stoniest ee
still requited a wiiiiegs who was examine.' to a eons er-
satins' tel state the whole or that conversation.
The L 0111) CHANCELLOR torn put the question,
whether it was the plea-tire of the lint:se to agree to thu
tie, bawl f the J:tag....e_llc cu„,,,„,, had it.
caste then called to the Bar, and the Lord
Ca Joe rlice ...aid--
- I si,t r ,!.)•1.,,.-1,-d by lice 1-!:rue to inform you, that
the ipet.•l s Lill I.e the namely, '
met ii make atte et t..:ltutt!' 'IS .1 tint:slit:in the House in
0: •ati..ot be poi."
lat witness Ni:lone, alias Saccbi, was then broight to

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the Bar, and the Attorney General continued his re-exa-
raination.
The witness has stated, that when he first came to this
country, lie changed his name to Sacchini I wish to ask
bins why he assumed that name ?-1 tookl that name in
consequence of the rumours and disturbances that took
place.
He has said he took another name, lI ask hint why he
assumed the other name? —lt was immediately after the
affray which happened at Dover.
You have said you signed a deposition; what time slit
you sign it ?—I do not remember exactly the day,but it is
about two months ago.
In what manner was you sworn to that deposition?—lt
was offered me by Mr. itichardu
For what purpose?
He told me lie (Mt .Powell) had received a letter from
Lord Liverpool, nt wbielm it was said, it was absolutely
necessary I should take the oath.
Did lie say any thing more ahem the purpose for which
the deposition was taken?—He said malting else.
Examined by:Earl Giosvelior.—l le has said he has hem)
en officer in the army. Did he ever receive any half-pay
for that service ?-4 have sits pay.
When lie was discharged Flom the revolutionary army,
did lie offer his service to any other Government ?—At ter
three years I asked to be taken into the service of the
Government of the Swiss tratitons, which had stipulated
to grant commissions to the officers of the French army.
"What was the answer yon received ?---I asked for the
same rank I held in the army of Italy, and it was au.
r swered, after a little time, there was no vacancy.
Did they offer you any inferior rank?—'They °Gm:
me the rank of a sergeant.
Is it customary **or persons in the situation yon held
under the Princess of Wales, to withdraw the windows of
a carriage without permission of persons of high rank its
the carnage?—Every morning it was my duty to go to the
carriage of her Royal Highness to see whether any orders
were to be given. Sometimes I found the carriage open.
Sometimes the curtains were down. Sometimes I opened
the curtains. I was never admonished by her Royal High-
ness, or told that I had done wrong.
The LORD CHANCELLOR stated, that application
had been made to him, stating, that one of the witnesses
fur the clime's (Load Frederick Montague) was abroad,
and In such a state of health as nut to be able to come
over to this country. It was requested that the House
would decide whether or not that person could not be
examined abroad by some authosity in the shape of a
Commission. Now in behind there had been instances
of such things, and if the pal ties upon both sides %timid
agree Num the subject, their Lordships would probably
have no objection.—(Hear, hear !). lie sl Id 1101 now
expect an answer from the King's Altos my General, but
toamos row morning he should rummunieate the appiica-
tion to him, and the Hume would expect that lie would
be prepared with an answer.