The National Register.
London, England, 1811-01-27 00:00:00

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in -pueibance of the notice he
.s.motidit;ootlit.iii§bjeet -of probes.
been frow.tißal,sit 4f rn iPA3Affac-
LordS who Were absent shotild
power. ,votint by pro.ity;. iddnia.tirc titute.kasos ..agnitist
which there were Standing Orders of the,,l-ivpse. To 'tint it4yas a
matter of atiolute-inditierencelvtierhet litottas on a late occasion
were admitted or not ; but unicsin vlsey:cotildr4ivi4:4o,'4.l:ll6
of England into two t.lasFes, it ‘'vas impossible for tbeen to admit
the Lords present to vote, and•refuse'tke Dirds abst:iit ti, seed
up their proxies. They might at..well refuse.the right of voting
to a Noble Lord who had nut bei'n present at aabatei, but cainb
into the House about two o'clock in the morning.. His Loitti-
ship then entered into a history ef the right of voting by, ptffy,
and said nothing could deprive them of it but a Standing rder,
or a previous decision of the House, and that .deliiion &tin be
by Lords absent as well as present. His Lord.,liip concluded
by moving four resolutions, establishing the competency •of
proxies to vote when called for.
Lord MOIRA was of opinion, that as they were now assem-
bled, no other Lord had denied their right of voting by proxies; It
could therefore serve no good purpose to enter the present reso-
lutions on their Journals. He was far from denying that advan-
tages might in instances attend the privilege of voting "by
proxy, but the question bad already been decided, and the pre-
sent was a very unlit time for bringing the utility or inutility of
Proxies under discussion ; he therefore moved that the House
do adjourn:
[Here notice was given, that a Message from the Commons
was in v. citing to bring up the Regency Lill ; which Air. Per-
ceval, attended by several of the TVlenibers, brought up accord-
ingly ; and, on the motion of Lord Liverpool, it was read a tirst
time, and ordered to be printed.]
Lords Ross and MANSI'ILLD defended. the Resolutions of
the Lord Chancellor ; as did the Duke of Norfolk and Earl
Stanhope the motion fur adjournment.—The House divided on
Lord Moira's amendment :—Contents, 68 ; Proxies,
Non-Contents, 67; Proxies, 26-9:i.—Majority of "Iwo against
Ministers. Adjourned.

TITUR::DAY, JAN. 24.
On the Motion of the Earl of Liverpool, the Regency Bill was
rkacl a second time and conin:itted for to-muri.ow, atter a Lew
words Lori Lord Griiinkv, intimating his intention of strongly
protesting against the mock of proceeding adopted ►,y Miiiiiitero.
—AdjournLd till to morrow.

JAN. 2i.
REGYNCY BILL.
On the motion of the E:trl of Liveit pool., the Order of the
Day was read for taking into consideration, in a Committee of
the whole House, the ite.gei4:l Bill, which was agreed to.
The House then west into a Committee., Lora Walsingham
in the Chair.
.On the First Clause brie; read, Lord Grenville made several
strong observations on the: ciatise, and the words of it,
the Regent with powi4r, described in words which might rendcr
that power doubtful, for as the clause at present stands, the
Regunt is to govern." according•to the'Laws of the Constitution
of Gi•e4t 11,ritain .and Ireland," leaving out all its dependencies.
On this a very ioug discussion took place betweat the Lord
Chancellor, Lord Redesdale, and Lord Auckland.. :At length
the clime was settled in die terms following,
.vi;:. " According
to the •Laws and Constittition-oi Great Britain and Yreland, and
the Dominions thereunto belonging." . •
Anothir conversation tobk pLic.c: between the same Noble
Lords, with the addition of Lord Ellenborough, respecting. the
words" for and on behalf of his Mi,jesty," which were discussed
kart Solite length:but-no alteration was made therein.
• Wen the ulausawas read empowering the Prince .to exercise
the Royal functions, irbecalue a citteStioll in what way the Prince
aboUld:sign.hii name, whether "*.Getirge P. R." on all occasions ;
or sometimes " George Y. R." and sometimes merely the Initials
"'G.' P. R." *hen-
... *ord Lr.t.r.t:BORQUGH thought it•Via.i quite tic-.cllusittojdetne
ter his Roy-af Highness any Fascicular mod,' of signing his name
on an y.occasion. At_ was not to be expected that his .Roral h•
.nests would do otherwise than conform.. tv,the.“actice ttkat.has
been pursued at all times heretofore. • '''-• '
Alta a. .law .observations from lqr4 itessiro., OtOst was
agried to without any alter:nit-xi.
When the clause was.'
tinuance of the Restricti,
Lord ORENVat6 SVW
have commenced front

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The LORD CHANCEL
eontirued from the Pt
Lord oit Eir, u4iceowledrati
limitations to coutin tie

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5 lead for • li/tilting the period for the eon-
tions on tile Regent, •, t•t, h"•sa' • it?
as .deFirimi that the six rnolfthir Should' 4".
the Ist of Nevtustber ts• At; ' 64, ; "
-LoR contended, that they 0ughC,..,1. Aga'
.L,Varr
of • FebrOary for the spear of sir. ; :I, • fe,•
xledgsd (hut • ftr, ••• '
was so restri..teei, but he t • •••'• v#ll-
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-the ease was i•ery
ship was of opinion, that
period, were very unlike ... _ -
and that which might be wise and prudent then, may be as un-
wise and as imprudent now ;so he thought of ie generality of
the Restrictions which the Bill imposed. Many of them were
not only derogatory to the State, but detrimental to the free
'agency of the Regent in the exercise of the Royal functions.
This discussion ended in some observations from Lord Redes-
.dale, the I .ord Chancellor, and Lord Sidmouth, and the question
was
carried fir fixing the•commer.cement of the Restrictions to
die tst of Fcb. next, for six months then ensuing.
• Upon the reading of the clause respecting the Household.
The Marquis of Laatscrovem rose, and objected to the
clause, which contained an insult to his Royal Highness. After
• a speech of some length, in which the Noble Lord expressed
• his disapprobation to the entire measure, he moved an-Amend-
mentt that after the word ".that," at the conunencement of the
clause, ill the followitig words should be omitted.
Lord Livsapoot: defended the measure, which he considered
as tending, in a high degree"to establish security to the Govern-
ment and the confidence of the people, not only with respect to
the Regent, but to those who had advised and matured the plan
offered to the consideration of their Lordships.
Earl Gait spoke in favour of the Amendment.—He declared
that he did not consider the authority of the Lord Chancellor
such as be could depend upon, on the subject of his Majesty's
indisposition. To the doubt which he entertained relative to
the Afallibility of the Noble Lord upon this subject, he was led
in consequence of a decision of his Lordship in another place.
The Noble Lord (Grey) contended, that too much of that
power which was naturally and politically the Regent's had been
in the contemplation of Noble Lords to bestow upon her Ma-

jesty.
The LORD CHANCELLOR spoke in reply to the arguments ad-
duced by the Noble Earl (Grey). His sentiments were in com-
plete opposition to those which he had just heard, and particu-
larly to those which advanced in favour of the amendment. He
had before stated his opinions upon the mode of proceeding
adopted upon the measure, and felt happy that he had now an
opportunity of repeating them. He had before given his sup-
port to the introduction of the Bill; he had declared it one of
the most constitutional propriety, for which nothing could
be substituted which bore the slightest comparison to it in point
of political wisdom and national expediency': and he would
shew that no alteration had been made upon his mind, by tle-
claring, that if he were led to the scaffold, the advice which he
had given, and his full co-operation, would not have been with-
held upon anoccasion which called so loud for the energies of
integrity and allegiance. His character might be traduced out
of that House, -and calumniated within its walls—Noble Lords
might declare that he had acted with impropriety upon occa-
sions where his conduct was in oppositk,n to theirs and the
Morning Prints might take -a liberty equally unjustifiable, and,
tyudlly zrnundlesi—but lie would assert (and from that asser-
yddn he woutd nevet4wervt) that whatever might be the opi-,
*Non,nt their Lordships owing to these insinuations, and what-
'WV dieciptulcOrt of .the blic derived from those prints his

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ilfe'reuCe to the principles which he had avowed,.,and to the.
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.s,clool.:ies" which he had inculcated, remained unshaken. Noble
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, ~ LOds had contended, that too much power was placed ,in the
hdl 4 of her Majesty ; how was this examined ? The assiduous
.' lattentl'On'whieh should be bestowed upon such a subject as that
before ;heir Lordships--the scrurulous care with which it
t .4 till Necensidered—the tern/nary incapacity of his Majesty,
~/
.ittid the Mite aud the nature-of that incapacity—were . all the6e
. ti rcuMit&fieeikhdy weighed- previous.to such a declaration ?
Ccrtainly, rib't:' "1 he Noble Lords who had made their objec-
, thin, proved- their total ignorance of the nature of that ohj.._!c-
-:t i tion. So far from thinking that too much of the household was
lac .d,fi,
ptinder re the tare of lier;Majesty, it was his opinion that the
'it
:e
ntire tif',ht. branch..sh,,t,ki. have been exclusively prated under
bet, kii :•-, and Ih-stating thus far, he wastompletely secured
YedrOtift Sicion'tif iiiiiit otaffsetion .to, and confidence in,
it44l
th P.slV•i.e.r., `" ','. '
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At tiOriTiyr".l)o3o/efiliCetipon the Amendment moved. by
,ttir
• foe.
,riui,or . , 4,uf.4dotv44lsnients, 108; "Non-contents, 96
...- ajority aganapt, yiniSteiti 12. •
The Marquis of .ANSDOWNE then motiii attothee amend-
* frosert;thuresibstahoe of .which kwas,. '.' that . the 0) iipiptei-Ation of
• ~:1110 iVistjuitli'v flionsekio4should nut he entered'. iiiteigitil after
ii %lite apititintayent ,o 1 Om Regent," tipri which, after ssoirit'dia-
.l4,/cuhsioii, a divir,itin t.ol ; 04ce.
.Contents, 107.-.7-Non-cotitents,
7 11:8017,.•4 Maio rity-zigniwt,Mipssys,,i9...., :. . ,
‘l.l 1"V/ter ottki..relalleetowverethett read profunna, and it was given
t'''')'lciiirAt+staild that'f,4*.eratathendinents would be moved upon
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" 'lite brintrtzig taro. the Report. . The House then ,adjourned to
"'rft Mishday. ' - . .

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TII 4 riATIONAL
..atiffeem.2=
different at the present moment. His Lord- I
n, that the times and the circumstances, at that I
unlike the circumstaneesat the present perldd