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that the number 13 should be eeeltita in the Reso.
lotion. and 3 inserted, so as to reduce the whole
from 113,278, to 103.78.
The question was then put, that the words pro-
poser! to Ise omitted do form pert of the original
Itesolto
Mr. CURSTEN said, that nothing would go so far
towards uniniog all ranks, and all parties., as a re-
deletion in the oistioloal expenditure; nod Irons the
i.taie of our linen( eS said people, mirror:bluetit was
idnailutely necessary.
Lord PALMERSTON said, lie supposed the thin.
ness of the opposite benches was attributable to the
importance of the ipication before the House. and
that they were imially considered as occopied by
the defenders of the people's poises--(Hearfrora
the Ministerial 3irle.)—The arguments of the !10,,.
Baronet were scarcely deserving of an answer...-.
They were lent shreds worn thread-hare. The
establishment of 1792 less with Gentlemen on the
oppowite side like a harass rod with goll!en studs,
the general standard to regulate all subsequent
establishments. This was hot a watte of time—.
for a measure they might as well take any period of
time from the Saxon Heptarchy. Since then the
circumstances of the country had been materially
changed. Their was a greater population. a greater
number of turbulent spirits to he kept down--
(Hen, hear, frogs the Opposition sidef—n
crease of property relturing stronger guard S.--.
There wail no point of identity between the present
period and the 3.44 r 1792. The pay of the soldier
had been doubled since the year 1792. AS the
arguments of the Honourable Baronet bad been
repeatedly auswered, he would not go further into
the questiou.
Mr. CALCRAFT Mid. the establishment of 1792
MN correctly made • standard, with cernsiu allow.
Ages, bemire it was the last time when we had a
peace ratablishmesit. As the expenses of every
part of the tirr%ter were enlarged, the greater was
the in cessitv of reducing the numbers. It was the
bounden duty of the Hamm to keep down the es-
tablishment to the lowest scale, consistent with the
public security. By a paper presented this day, it
appeared there were fifty-sax millions of Exchequer
Bills now outstanding. The only diminution of
the national debt last year was three millions. He
would concur with the Amendment of the Hon.
Baronet.
Mr. PEEL said, he had never represented Ireland
as being in a mate of perfect tranquillity. At this
moment two counties were under the operations of
the Police Act, and five or six in a state of diaturb-
ance. What be had said was, that it was matter of
conionlation that Irelend, after all her prepares mid
grievances, was now in a state of advancing trate-
quality, and of improvement in obedience to the
laws. In that country, since the year 1816, there
had been a reduction of 5,000 regular troops and
of 30,000 yeomanry. The number of the latter
force was dwelt upon; but it should be recollected,
that the whole amount of the charge for the enor-
mous yeomanry force of 40,000, now kept up. was
not more than the charge for one regiment of ca-
valry. Of the 20,000 regulars for that country,
1,200 were now sick, and shove 700 were recruits.
Sir J..NeweoßT felt great satisfaction from the
progressive diminution of the military force in Ire-
land. Differing es he did, in many points radi-
cally, from the Right Hon. Secretary for that
country, lie must look upon him as eiaitled to the
thanks of every friend of that country, fur his suc-
cessful efforts to discourage and repress the use of
the military in civil cases—sod to enforce the exe-
cution of the laws by the strength of the civil
power—a system so happily pursued here. But it
was a delusion to suppose that the Government
could yet act on the principle of ebandosimesit of
military f ree in that country. It had been too
lung employed to be suddenly given up. Much
good would he derived from retracing the steps long
followed by different Governinents in Ireland gra-
dually. Ile thought the Colonies should. in some
shape, be made to contribute to their own security.
Mr. ALSORTATT was averse to subjecting the
Cid ses to charges of this description.
Mr BROUGHAM denied the .position that an
increase of population was proportionably attended
with au increase of turbulence.—( Hear, hear.)—
But the increase of population since 1792 was only
1-10111. while the amount of force was doubled. He
had an old-fashioned antipathy to standing armies.
The system conferred immense petrolorge, and sloe
direct isiortr of the sword. Notwithstanding the
opinion of an Hon. Baronet, he thought other
measures might be tried to tranquillize four mil-
lions of Irish Catholics. If alone, he would support
the ainendinesit.
Sir .1. NEWPORT and Mr. BROUGHAM mutually
explain. d.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said that strong and con-
viiicuig anemias lied bren frequently given to the
arguments alpinist the resolution. He ascribed the
ss of the I louse, almost unprecedented on a
questiiiii of such importance, to aconvicti oo the
allsetit that every practicable reduction had beet*
made. He protested login's( the establishment of
1792 being set up as a precedent worthy of imi-
tation—history *hewed it to be quite otherwise.
hlr. Pitt hail too great a mind, not to confess that
he had never erred so much in his views of any
great political question as on the establishment
then reqiiiied. Being binned with a view to every
possible retiencliiiirnt, it ultimately defeated itself.
'I he whole rent=otting vim which it was founded was
misonial—the ey stein itself pre-eininently coun-
teracted the principle on which it was liortlle4l. It was
impossible to so cede limn old systems per sulfite.
whit 00...1,r to Ile voted for England,
Scotland, a as 26,000, of theat 8,000 would
toe alisialwil by reliefs-11,000 were required for
Landon, Westimoster, and the Docks-7,000 only
wool., LW I, t lie the 'time of the rest of the
As at nitro be unpleasant to the House to
hear repetitions, and as the arguments against
the Resolution were told, and loud been billy con-
tioverird. lie could forbear going over the more
ground, assuring the House the Estimates had
been Intoned anti tarty intention to ecuinnity.
Mr. lialltlolLlM &Apt:filled.
Mr. IIANNEs, olthongli let nelirverl sonic mitre.-
tom 'night he t.ofely ef ected. cook' not eolterive at
piudent to vole for the amendment of his Hun.
Friend. Tilt co ittrion vi 17!11 was one of a period
tun r to to Le applicable to the present case,
rogsr.itlertist; the vast clialigee which had taken place
in the milioery ,iu•ture of all the halloos around us.
Ile should be certful in reducing the quota applt-