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except you gave him orders to do so?—Not at all. The
Captain of the ship took orders from sne. It was his
duty. The tent on the deck was within three or four feet
from the steersman during the night and day. On the
return from Jafla I slept on the deck once, within five
feet of the tent. The steersman might hear what passed in the tent generally. There was a ladder that went down
to the dining•roona from the tent. It was kept open at
night, for the tent covered the passage, but the opening
was always clear. The tub in which her Royal Highness
bathed could not go into the Princess's cabin. Akira& too
large: •floc Royal Highness called tome in the night,
when; distnrbeti her'repose by mansuvring the ship.
—I ittis Obligeeto open the tent when I did not dis-
inetly bear her Royal Highness. I never saw the slightest
impropriety nor indecency
.in her conduct to Kerwin or
any ether person. On liergatni's taking leave, he kissed
her hand, which was shims by all persons on taking leave.
I have been in the Navy about,sixteen.yeara. I wear the
Orders of Merit and Fidelity. given to me by The King
of Naples, for taking several privateers, while in the
Neapolitan Navy. I have received the :loyal permission
to wear one of them.

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Cross-examined by the Solicitor General.
The witnem then underwent a rigid cross.exemination,
in which lie declared be never saw Berganti sleep in the
Princess& tent.
At ten minutes past four o'clock, Earl Grey inquired if
the cross-examination was nearly concluded ? when the
Solicitor General said he could not say that it was.
... The House theft adjimmed.
SEVENTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE.
TUESDAY, OCT. 10.
This morning, at five minutes before ten o'clock the LORD
CR A N OCLLOR toek Miami on the Woolsack. Prayers were
read by tue Bishop of Bristol, and the list of Peers was called ,
over in the usual manner, and some excused on account of
indisposition.
Earl GROSVENOR rose, to cell the attention alttbilr
Lerdihips'lo 'a subject whirl, he conceived of coraladerable
importance. Their Lordships had, iu an early stagier these
proeeetlings,'decrueed that nothing in the rules or privileges
ofthis House ought to prevent the prosecution of a witness
who nigh! have committed perjury. sut as, notwiehmania.
hag this *climatic; there appeared sumo doubts on the ob.
jaw., he thought it Rae to the hewer tulddlipft 'gibe MOM
that those doebts should be removed,Mat me impihiss saint
be thrown la the way of irrowcating for iggestillll4- lilts
fat this purpose a short Act of Parfammeat r;as speedily as possible.
The LORD CHANCELLOR mad, that, in the .premmt
stage of the proceedings, this address of the .Noble Lord was.'
the +Cost extraordinary be bad ever heard in that House...-
When the Conusel for the Queen stated thin he would prose.
out. one of the witnesses for Perjury. be went too far. it was
not for their Lordships to cootemplate eases of perjury, my
to safer an opinion as to the perjury of any wittier, until the
proceeditsgs were finished. headdress to the House imputing
perjury to a witness who might hereafter be proved not to
have perjured himself, was highly improper.
Earl GROSVENOR explained. Tie Noble and Learned
Lord bad spoken as if this was the first time the seldom
bad beenspoken of in the House. This, however,- was-art
the case; and as it had bees aclurowledged ia:.S1111
asearementsd these proceedings, that the iicapenlastibi
power of directing prose/chow for perj so impediment
my* to be thrown in lies way of sock ',tonury.nage. • •
The LORD CHANCELLOR Iris still of (viable, that it
was highly improper any Noble Lord ihrotild impute perjury !
to * particular witness before the proceedings • were
eonchided. •
The Earl of ESSEX thought the best way of proceeding
would be by au Act of Parfinuent to remove all difficulties
as proposed fly his Noble Friend. ..
The Earl of LIVERPOOL agreed In the observation of
the Lord Chancellor.
Lord MELVILLE rose and mid, from some circumstances
which had occurred, with wbieh'he would not trouble the
Lordships, be thought it desirable that William Corriere%
one of the winterises examined at
in behalf of the Queen as
former day, should be again called before their Lordship%
in order that certain further questions shield be asked of •
witness already examined before their
The Earl of LIVERFOOL said, its es tap
their Lordships to decide, whether it might bell swan all
the *awls now, or to wait until the conclusion of the eve.
deuce for the Queen, and then call him previous to the'
summing up.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE was not aware what was
the natureof the questions to be pot to the witness; but he
thought it was for the Noble Lord who had these questions
to propose, to say whether be would .put them now, or at
any future time.
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE was of opinion that if
the questions of the Nubk Lord were necessary for the
information of the Court, the wooer their Lordships were in
possession of that information the better.
Lord MELVILLE deemed it highly expedient that the
witness Carrington should be examined with as little delay
as possible; The Noble Lord then, moved, that William
Carrington should be called to the bar of the House and
examined. Agreed to.
Cannel were called in at twenty-five minutes before
eleven.
Lieutenant Alp„ was then railed to the Bar, and under.
went I tediously long ernes-examination by ie Solicitor.
Geaeral
aand theh ich Lords, without any important fart trans
g—fter w
Williams Carrington now appeared at the bar, and was
examined by Lord MELVILLE.
Yost said to the Counsel who examined you on Saturday
that you had beet, a midshipman prior to your being is;
the service of Sir W. Gell ?....Yes, I did, with Sir John
Beresford.
Von were asked lf yen hail been in any other ship ex-
cept the Poictiers, and you said no?—I meant that I was
under the command of Sir J. Beresford, but I had been in
other ships.
Von said von had been in the merchant service, mind
then on land, and then a midshipman in the 'Waters—is
that answer correct ?—Yes.
Yost were asked if you had been on hoard any other
King's ship befmre the Pi,irel-r,, and you said no; is that
title ?-1. liimight the queonno relaisol as to any other ship
'soder Sr J. ilereoforit ; I >isveil in nu other ship loader
him, but I was en booed other slaps, the Jl4,..taic cud
Lnother. -
Did you enter voluntarily or not ?—1 was pre.sest.
Did you serve as Midshipman in the other ,hips;—No,
as Lbserter Master.
Vou said you hm.l been in the merchant's service, then
Co law), whets were you vu has all-1 was bred and he. n

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on the sea coast—someti
and sometimes un land.
Lieut. ffirwarun sworn.—Examined by Mc. TYNDALL.
You are a Lieutenant in his Majesty's navy ?—I am.
How long have you been a Lieutenant ?-Since the early
part of the year hog.
....• • Where dO you live at present?—At Rouen, in France.
Did you at any time go to Italy with her Royal High.
Mu the. Princess of Wales?-1 did, in April, 1815.
Where wits her Royal Higlinesset that Bette?.--At Gerson.
- , How long Sid sliereitialn at 'Genoa aftcryou joined bar ?
...About site weeks.
Do•yotrrecollecf, Whilst you were at Genoa, any dig..
turhanoe happening in the course of the night 1-1 do.
What was the nature of the disturbance?—lt was sup-
posed an attempt had been made to break into the house.
• Was there any Alarm In tile iiight.l. There was.
Did you get up in consequence 1-.1 did.
• Wherrdid you go?-1 weut to the great ball.
Who did you see there—The Queen and many of. her
servants.
s . Was Majocct there ?—fle was. During the Mae you were at Genoa, did you ever
breakfast with her Royal Highness?—Never.
Did you ever see her at breakfast I—l have.
At the time you law her Royal Highness at breakfast,
was Bergarnt breakfasting with her?.—No.
—.NDid you ever know him breaktest at Genoa with her
ever. •; .• •
Were you in the habit of dining with her Majesty at
Genoa?—Yes, every day.
Did Rergaini ever dine with her while she was at Ge-
nus* ?—Nesters
Where did liergami first begin to dine with her/—I do
not recollect the naive ref the place, but it was In Ike
course of our journey to St. Gothard, and iu the mouth of
August, 1813.
Did he begin regularly to dine with her Royal Highness
at that time ?-.-No. It ens at the Villa d'Este lie began
regularly, to dine With her Royal Highness. After we
quitted Genoa we went to Milan; there her Royal High.
loess resided at a place called Olivers. These was a
staircase into which her 'ltoyal 'Higliness'a room opened,
but it was not a secret staircase. It led to my apartment
where I slept, and to the chambers of all the lower ser-
vant*. I do not recollect that the staircase was used by
the lower servants its going to their apprtments, but I used
Ile pass through it In going to my apartment. Ajler wet
lett Milan we went to Vallee. Her Royal Highness took
ap her residence at Villa d'Este, in September. I knew
where berßoyal Highness slept at Villa d'F.ste. After
our long voyage, I recollect being at Tunis. I accompa.
sled her Royal Highness during the whole voyage.
Where did Hergami sleep at Tunis /—I recollect his
pointing me out hill room, and I saw him in hit room, using
It as his room.
• Was it near lair Royal Highness /—N
Describe the different situntio o.
Bergans's her Royal Highness's rooms ?—Be anti's rouesi and of
w the
ally room up a tired of stairs. I sever saw anyas body
areopy that room Mit Eternal. There were several rooms
between the eight of stairs and her Royal Highness's room.
I 'mean there were three or four rooms to pass.
Was Bergami's room oa the same story with that of her
Royal Highriem ?—dio t her Royal jilishurat's wits on the
same door with all the Household. tremember gulag from
Tunis to Utica. Her Royal Highness went to the Palace Of
the younger Prince, culled Labelle. Witness wit, on board
the polneca during the voyage. There was a most cum-
, plete separation between the part of the polaccts toed by
her Royal Highness and suite, and that used by the Citplaiu
and crew. The Captain bad no duty to perform in that part
of the ship winch was oc, upiedby her Royal theorem the
Princess of Wales. I never saw the Cuptniu in that part of
the vessel. I recollect our holding at Epaulet. tier Royal
flightiest slept ea the plains of Ephesus. She slept louder a
shed. The shed was open, and the suite slept all round her.
I slept round her anumg the rest. She dined that day in the
, cheer/a-yard, under the portico of au old mosque. lam
convinced we all dined together. In ituvelling from St.
I Jean d,Acre to Jeresaleat her Royal Highness rode on an ass.
It Is customary there to ride on mules presets, or in a pulite
qui& We travelled by night. The Princess was excesssively
fatigued. She fell (runt her are from fatigue more than mace.
On her return, the weather being extremely hot, she ordered
a tent to be raised on deck, bat the told me, when inforiaed
(het it retarded the progress ofthe ship, thin she did uotcare
about it. The Tunisian pirates were feared,aud the light hi
the lent was put out early in co.ssequence. her Royal
Highnets, when she was informed it was necessary to put
out the light, said I don't want it. 1 would as sorra do with-
out it. Her Royal Highness slept on the deck under the
tent, hi consequence of the excessive heat of the weather,
and theme-1i of the animals in the hold. The witness knew
that two Tunisiau pirates had been seen one of Ceyo, and
the other near St. Jean d'Acre. The light was pet out
every evening at nine or ten o'ilock. Sometimes earlier.--
There were four sofas on board the polecat—two iu the
cabin of the Countess of Oldi, and two in the Princess's
cabin. An alteration took place iu the course of the voyage
One was taken from the Coolness of Oldi's cabin, and placed
upon deck under the tent. There was alto an English ti a.
welling bed ander the lent.
It being four o'clock the House atijourned.
EIGHTH DAY or THE DEFLNCE.
WZDNICSDAY, OM IL
The Lord Chancellor took his seat on the Woolsack a few
minutes before ten o'clock. Prayers were read. The list of
Peers was called over in the usual manner. Counsel were then
called in.
Lieutenant Hoionans was called to the Bar. and his examination
resumed by Mr. TYNDALL.
(The continuation of this gentleman's examination and his
cross•examination occupied the whole of the dory, and way not
indent concluded when the House adjourned. The consequent
length of it obliges us to preserve only the points of importance.]
You mentioned in your examination of yesterday, that there
was a coonnunication frOM the tent b.:low. Was it open by night
as well as by day ?—The ladder was constantly down.
Have you had any opportunity, from going there, of knowing
whether the communication was open or not T—l have.
on what occasion was this P—One evening, not knowing the
beritoyal highness had retired,' ran up the ladder to go on deck,
and (lid not had the tent closed.
Have you had ant eceasion to go inn her Hoye/ Iligliness's tent
previous to resuming your journey, i.... We. always dint..l there
previous to um departure.
Do you not know whether her Royal Ili:A:less was dressed
Or undressed during the time she reposed f.-1 do not know
whether she was ever untire,,sed daring the journey; t don't be-
here she was.
State year grounds for belies:rig she was not undressed ?
Because I slew r saw ariy bed clothes in the tent.
Du you iseolltet gurasit..e voyage, of a bath Lcicg taken by


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take baths on the voyage home.
vesseWhen the bath was taken, of what description was the tub or
l which was used P-It was a common bathing tub, made at
urta, by my orders.
was it of such a sine, that it could be put into her Royal
Highness's cabin when her bed was down ?-I do not think it
possible.
During the time you wason board this vessel did you ever see her
Royal Highness sitting on a gun with Hergawi ?..-1 never airy it
Did ynu ever see thou sitting on a bench, with her arm round
Berganu, and Bergainee round her 's 0-Never.
Did you ever see than kissing each other 3-Never.
Did you ever perceive any impropriety or indecency in
the conduct of the one towards the other while on board ?...
-Never.
. Do you recollect &swami dressing himself up in any particular
way with pillows ?-I do.
Ste Wilig ci.cumstunces you know respecting it 7-It was
done in derisios of the English Consul, who came on board at
Jara, in a gold-laced cocked Jut:, large cloak, and with a a big
gold.headeu cane.
Was the Consul a man ofa pompous figure ?-llc was.
DO you remember a person of the name of Mehemet, who was
on board ?-I do.
i Do you roxillect a dance performed by bfahonset P-I do.
Was there any thing indecent or improper in that dance?...
Not in the least, more thau in the Spoiled bolero or the negro
dance.
Did you ever seeMaliouie(performing the same dance on shore?
Frequently.
At the end of the voyage. did her Royal Highness land at
Terrana ?...Yes, Bergann, Camera, and I mink Thoodore
Alajocci.
Was the vessel bound to perform warantine ?...We were not
in port at that time.
For what reason slid the three persons land at Terrachirui3.
It was on obtain refreshments in consequence of her Royal H4li.
ness havig been so long on board, and biting much in need- of
them.
In
what maneer did they take leave of her Royal Highness 3
...By kissing her Royal Highness's hand in a respectful manner.
Did the whole three kiss hands ?...I think tlicy did.
Now I put it to s ou,. Sir, whether Bergaini kissed her Royal
Hi 'linens on that occasion ?...Kias her face I No. certainly not.
Did her Royal Higlinesspay a visit to the Villa Barons?...
Alter a short stay at Villa d ate*bee Royal Highness went to
the Villa Barons.
What was the nature of the entertainments given by her Royal
, Highness at the Ville Barone ?...She gave none, except to the
failliers' daughters, and die persons ot the household.
Was that during the time of die Carnival?...lt was.
Did you not see at the entertainments given at the Villa
Barone the wives of any. person !...Yes, I have sten the wife of
the Chevalier Thomann' and her daughter, the wife of Posh:nor
Moclietti, and die wife of Baron ----.
Who was 'l'hornaisini i...He was Prefect of Como for some
years.
Were the other persons in the entertainments residents in the
neighbourhood 3... Yes they were, with the exception of Professor
Mothetti, who was from Como.
wry the clergyman of die place there /...He was there fre-
quenlly.
Did her Royal Highness continue in the dancing.roons, or in
what manner did she conduct herself;....Her Royal Highness
did not continue in the dancing-zoom, but chiefly in an *Suing
room, and came in to see die. (fencers occasioally.
Did you-you yourselfjoin in these dance, /...lwy.
Did her Royal Hiahmas retire for theee
evice,
evening before the dances
were over !...Chiell.
Did you ever see, at these dances, any tbing indecent or hide-
comas an the conduct of the persona there 9_ .. .fslist not.
Upon, Truisms occasions that you have seen her Reyal
Iligring the time of your being with her, was she received
at the different Courts, and visited by pervons of the first dis:
tinction P-At all, except Vienna.
Who was the British Ambassador at Vienna at the time N.-
Lord Stewart.
1 On those occasions, when her Royal Highness was so received
at the respective Courts, what was her conduct and demeanour?
-Every thing that was majesty and grace.
How was she treated at those Cowls ?-.With the greatest
respect and attention.
Do you remember bet Royal Highness travelling from Ancona
to Rome ?...1 do.
Who was the courier on that occsaion?-1 cannot say. positivey.
I think it was Carlo.
Do
syou remember a subsequent journey from Rome to Senc-
galia t... 1 slo.
In what carriage did her Royal Highness travel ?-.ln an En-
glish landaulet.
In what carriage did you travel yourself ?.../n an English
landau.
Do you remem whoa panied you in the landau ?...I
think there was Sc, Dumont, and her sister.
Do you rendser any thing happening to the Countess MU dur-
ing the journey ?...ln the journey front Ancona to Rome, she
was taken ill.
Did her being ill eecasion any alteratioa ?...Yes, she changed
carriages ' she went into the landau, and Duniont went into the
Princess's landatilet.
How long hare you been in the society of the Princess as part
of her suite ?...Since the month of April, inis.
Down to what time ?...Down to the present time.
From April, 1815, to April, ISIS, have you been constantly
living with lwr !loyal Higlines ?...Yes, I have.
During the whole of that time have you seen any thing in the
conduct of her Royal Highness toward* Bergami, or of Bergs's/.
towards het Royal Highness, that was improper, indecent, or
degrading to hercharacter ?...I never did.
What salary did you have ?...ttool. a year.
Dohs her Royal Highness continue that salary to the present
time?...Slie does.
Cross-examinol by the King's Attorney General.
I have been a Lieutenant in the Navy since the hear lima-.
Iliad been six ymrs in the Navy previously. My hither was in
the service of the Piincess as Page. Ido not know how long he
was in that service. lie was all bis life either in the service of
his present Majesty, or the Princess Charlotte. The Princess
of Wales inte;estal herself much in my promotion. I was made
Lieutenant in consequence of her good offices.
Do you not believe that &rpm' on the return from Jolla,
slept cunstandy untie, the tent ?...l have heard and believe that
he slept under die tent.
Now, believing that Itertaimi slept under the tent, do you not
think it degrading to her Royal Highness ?...No, I do not, I
think it was necessary that sonic one should sleep near her, and
I have heard of other persons sleeping there.
You do not think that lierganit's sleeping under the tent was
degrudiug to her Royal Highness's station ?...No, I do not think
it was.
The crew of the polocca was composed of Neapolitans and
Siciivlihilyns.slidlylaluhifli IrtuhißTonekyrealiw,r,llweceiB(r,sehniellsia------iijyaintPldi--aectitkireellikeeldeuir.ninnge-eths:lts-s
hr-i -ii her
Royal
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sonibouy to sle.p with her tanner the tent .0-1 cunsidi eogrni
the Prinemi weeping oar th.ck by herself would lint be 4t all
right. I had never seen any of those men before 1 sailed, and
aillLd htahva----et ------
1 kncw nothing of their characters. flee Royal highness has
waLual with lite, a ith bchiavini, as well as with Bergman-.
Slit ilaS walkol with other gen:Lawn who came to visit her. I
Wats appuinted Knight of the Order art St. Caroline, of which
Liergann was Grand master. Mr. Flynn, another, William
A wain, Camere, and I believe Dr. .11oLlitta, welt also arpoitited
Yhishis of that Wier.

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