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"TIMNSTIONAL NEGiant.

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CUANCILLua or rat EXCIMQVin denied the arguments
And assertions of the Noble Lord, that there was any Wag Jae.
gal in the Orders of-Council issued by Ministers. Thejurisdie.
tion of the Privy Council was a.dapteil to the prerogative of the •
Cron n, and the effect depended entirely no the car prerogative
of the Sovereign. it had no eonerrn with the peace Farago-
live, which was a 'matter essentially different, as it went td
warding off dangers, such as famine, or any other domestic ea-
lanAty. The only and sole jubtitication, therefore, of his Ma- •
jests in issaing these Orders of Council was his self prerogative,
and that only. If that was so, then he would mown, that Par-
liament had no more authority to alter the Law of Nations, than
the Noble Lord had, which was a tt.ing he wild not do. Ile
contended, that Ministers were justified ie. issuing t o e Orders
is Council, and in retorting the hlueitade on France and her
dependencies, and all neutrals. The Noble Lord t °aid out con-
trovert 4 position so clear. The Preach, say you (England)
shall have no trade. We reply that we w ill, in defiance of
them, and we adopt measures of direct retaliatiou, hieh fro as
their nature must ensure snc kali effect.
Dn. I,,treittNot contended, that the Orders in Council were
known to be Halal at the time his Majesty's Minkters advised
teem, well aware that Bunapurte rever intended to carry his
Decree to extremity towards neutral,.

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Sin W. GIZA vr, 'master of the Rolls, contended, that his Ma-
jesty had a right to make a declaration with respect to the law
of nations, but had no right whatever imposed on him to
suit Parliament, any more than ik .I.ad in declaring war or
making peace; and said, it was absurd in Parliament to iper-
fere in a case of absolute necessity, for the greatest betelit had
already resulted from it.
SIN .1. Prtworr defended the arguments of Ler:l Petty, and
contended, that the Ministen; had acted in %cry
rhnsty and ircrt
precipitate ways in issuing the Orders in Council. Jie coo.
eluded by opposing the motion.
'the quest 1011 ‘1 ac carried tt ithoat a dit ition, and the noun
re!:t into the Committee.

In the Commitree, Air. Pereeval submitted tv string of Res;►-
lutions, itopioing varioug duties on artielel, the produce or ltri.
tisk Colonies, or the7:r exportation front Creht Britain. The
Reports were ordered to be received on Nionday, to which day
the House adjourned.

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No. I.— Iliqpalch from the ll.i.Tht Honourable Lord (la tNvir. T.
I. 1:V Cif) N IT CIL, to Mo. Scertlarg C C datrd Suit
Petersburgh, September 2d, INO7 Igth.
SI. P,•terAborgl , Sept .9.1?, ISO 7.
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SIR--I have the honour to inform you, t h•Jt on Saturd.iv even-
ing 29th August, L received by Sir Siephen Shanp, who left the
fleet off Copenhagen upon the 24th August, oor dispatches No:.
32 and SS, and on Sunday the Messenger Itter delivered to me
those from No. 26 to SI inclusive.

Being thus completely pat in possessioo of the sentiments of
His Majesty's Government, upon all the points which coulticome
into discussion between this country nod Great Britain, I lost no
time in requesting a conference with General Budberg, who,
though extremely unwell, invited me to call upon him last night.
1 !wean the conference by observing, that his Excellency Ic-
ing already apprised by the Answer given to II is Mtkiesty's Si..
crrtary of State, to if. .Gapes, of the conditionul arcup:ance
by the Court or Lonion, of the profered mediation of
had to sate to him, that I was instructed in the first in.tattare
to request the communication of the -ecret Articles of the Treaty
of Tilsit. and a frank disclo,ure or the eeneral iiews and in-
tention: of the I:0mq of !Watt Peter-burgh, That impartiality was
the first requisite in the character of a mediator, and that before
the British Government agreed to avail itself of the meditation f
this Court, it was essentinlly necessary that England should tie
placed, with regard to the meditating Power, on au equal footing
ith France: that the confidential intercour,e which had takca
place between the Emperor and, Bonaparte at Tilsit, and by
which his Imperial Majesty became acquainted with the prin.
cioles upon which the French Government proposed negoriating
tt ith the Coort of London, had on turd Is excited un uneusitw,t in
England, tt Rich could only he removed by an unreserved courvi
nication: that I could not com•cal from him, that the purio:l
remptoril v prescribed to Hi, Majesty, for the accept:n-4.e of
aifiiin mediditioa. /::vk ere:v.ed in Lonion a ter. UllraVool.ti

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impression against the intervention of his Imperial Majesty ; that
however, notwithstanding His Majesty had just reason to be of-
fended with the terms of the !Atli article, such was his desire to
Ombtatee any opening which afforded the prospect of the conclu-
sion of an honourable peace, that he would mg retract the condi-
tional q,corptance of the. mediation, which had already been con-
sitved to the Russian Govenunent, in the note addressed by vou
to M. AlopPw ; that His Majesty, at he shoe time, looked for
stone mark of the good-it ill of the Emperor of lio,sia towards
Great Britain ; that N. Alopcus had before the late un-
fortunate events of Friedland and Tilsn, requested of you a
projet of a new treaty of commerce, and had given the as-
surance• of the disposition of hi Court to proereci to the de-
finite conclusion of a commercial arrangement ho:ween two
Countries I that a projet had in eonqiliance with his wish been
Communicated and transmitted to tit. Petersburg:, ; and that if
tio good-vs ill n! his Imperial Majesty tona.rds Englaml coati-
ptled unaltered, I trusted no delny wrm'd ta:te place in proceed-
ing Its Negociation of chi. Tr:nits. ; that the existence of any
s:ipul:tnion in WI • Pinjet, which Wa, not approved of by this Go-
vornmaitt, was pc; ob,tacee to our entering join nngociation upon
it, beennse 1 shouol take opatt my self to azree to any modifica-
tions n-hicli did not appear to change the basis and principles
coon n Melt it had beets framed ; that a. France had by the 2.7 th
article of tho Tilsit Treaty secured the re-establiAnnent of her
raer commercial relations with !tn.:-it:, a natural and obvious
soede if ;.roving iha impartiality of the. Looperor would be the
ceacwnl • l' the commercikl treaty with fireat Britain.
t:coeral ionlber; hewn his entity let acknowledging the ex-
of secret artiele, beloaning to the Tcraty of Tilsit. There
%ter, he 'aid, xt hirh itt Ito way coneereed the interests of
; that he could assure me, and a- an holiest wan he would
o were not troth, there esiSted nn secret article w hat-
ov r, whir!' mina, tt,el the shutting the Russian ports against the
Briti:ni commerce; that wi:h respect to the projet of the treaty
of c ointnerce, he teal to confess, that, front the press of other
toisii,s,. and she bad gate of his health, he had not had time to
fail it befare Cite Emperor; that it must necessarily be consider-
cd by tin- 1114.1:ter of Commerce, before he could confer with
in upoa it ; and that a, to the 21th article of the Tilsit Treat',
it only placed the commercial relations of the two count, i.
upon the same fuming that they hail bee*Aiefore the commence-
pt of hostilities ; trhat the commercial treaty with France was
n. t roaewed. and would expire in tw eai ; ard that it by no
Inca a‘ followed heentve Bonaparte had communicated to the
tallow of R :1.-sin, the basis upon which he was ready to con-
clinic peace with England, that his Imperial Majesty had made
an v communications at Tilsit of the future views and system of
the Court of Petersburg.
ThenellP:nlappoarell to wi sh that T shoeld consider this answer
tic sufficiently sati,factory to authorize roe to accept the mediation
of his Court, I observed in reply, that it,wa...dithcolt to conceive
any articles of a peace between Russia and France whirl, did
pot durst try or 'lndirectly ciairern Great Britain ; but that I asked
the communication of the s,-cret arth les, not nob y as an object
which might allioa the hecrests of Englainl, bat as a mark of the
emitintiancr of that friendship and confidence nu the part of
this Court. which could alone all'ord atty lirovect of gond, from
the acreptance of the mediation Of 11:i. Emperor of I( us:in ; that
with the same view, I had proposed crotitming the negeciations
begun by M. A lopcw, and that his Ex relleney had no ant hn-
rity at present to say :lay thing more satisfactory than What I had
AS yet heard from hint, I most request hint to ask the permission
of tlt• Emperor to communicate to me withoot ITSCI'VC the secret
articles of the Treaty between Russia and rrance, and to em-
power him to continue the vegociai ions, and conclude a treaty of
commerce with Groat I.:Otani.
Genersie iludberg promised me, that he would lose no time in
brining these two requests under the consideration of his Impe-
rial llalesty.-- I ha,. e the hooour to he with the greatest respect,
Sir, Your most obedient linnible servant,
(ill AN VILLE I.LVESON GOWER.

No. IL—flap/It/ref:l of a nixpettM frnm tlif; .Cl77flr to the snow.
In which Lor:1 Gower states that General l'Alberg hard
r.eeived hint la a f.tr more waerct awl eon;iliating manner titan
irmerlv, and scented anxiott4 to remove every digienlty in the
way of a good untler,tatiding between the two cour.; ries.

Nn. I I .—./n Estrart of Divprach from the Same to the Same.
Stating his Lortlship.6 ctirpr6e on receiving Vie nekt morning.,
this friGll;:iy Ccuverlitiou, the; following Nu,(C frato Clinir.r4l
ildberg ;