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teetotal her, teat toy hies& Ike to ielitt open my 'Nog
that ie me wool and rossetirrol —( Laughter.)
Me. Proofthaw—lt world ►t &direst in a word sod 1.4-
Jar.ai case, but this is an wituxaal sad rnssta►al cam.
the witness was ordered to withdraw.
Medame Maribrai swarm, aid entwined iy Mr. Williams.
Mk the tritium if she is the wife of Beery Martigni
Of what place Merge.
Ask her whether she keeps a milliner's *hop there Yes.
4sh•her if eke tows Louisa Deftest? Yee.
!lee wog has she losown her From the time that she
++,!s at Mairge, whew ohs was quite piong, aid was learning
to +orb.
• YVairtbat before she went into the service of the Princess
Wale? • A tong time before.
Ask ber, aecording to the best of ber judgment, what age
Dement was the time •►e test became acquainted with
be.? Mita 1 knew her the first time she might be about
x !ten.

Atk her if she had frequently wren Demont at Morse ?
F. sin the moment I became acquainted with her I eiw her
Mery .often.
11111;Jaw i wish to know whether she remembers seeing De•
MOM at Morge an• time in the year 1918? I saw her in the
•us:stit of April. /Ole.
Mkere did ynu we. her? At the country house of
wftere I *eta on nreonot of ionic work.
-.V&A work was that ? For Demont. _

Now before that time had you ever seen any journal of
1 u Deimos hail reed it
when you saw Dement on the subject of mime work,
•Ji•iyilli enter into any convereation with ber (Demons) on
the sobjet4 of that journal, or of the Pratte ? Yea.
Do you reirtensinr eekiniber soy question respecting the
'Proceeeef Wales and Imegionduct ? The first time I 'yoke
10 her Meow her Yore?, because D had seen herjournal.
Now ask her if she asked Delmont any question respecting
Ike conduct of the Princess of Wale. eruerally ? Yea.
What question did else put to Venom %
Lord Lauderdale regimented that the hot question and an-
swer might be read.
What was the question that von put to Demont)--
The Atiorwy.Generst objected; he thought that the 1
comminution between the witness and Dement could nut be
let 11110 floe iliquiry.
The Lord Chancellor observed that there weris two ways
of considering the propriety of evidence sow objected to •
Ist, Whether it were edit .i .. dale as contradicting the teeth
mony of Dement Oil, Whether it were or were not freely-
tile as affecting the credibiloy of Mantra ? If the Cottreser
en the Bill thought it hsaidwisssible on either of throe grounds
at was their duly to say ow, and to state the reasons of their
opinion.
leougliam said, that he tendered the evidence as it
contesilierun of the evidence of Demmer, and slot as gene-
rally off etierf the credit of Densont. Ile intended it to he
• rostridiction or what Demo hail sworn—" that she bad
never said say thing of what took place in the house of her
Royal Highness,, till she had heen ?sworn here, with the ex-
ception of her depoetion at Niko."
The eolicitorGeneral quoted the following answer of De-
ment, ii son her last curse-exeminetion What does the
witness mean by Naylor, that before she was pot npun her
?utile she never sayri any thiug of what passed iu the bowie
her Royal Highness?"--" The llWAltitig i That I
• any thing of her contlnet with Baron flertnnir—ss
e elanatoty of the 8114Wer referred to Dry Mr. Stoneham,
ntaiiitaintd that the evidence was not receivable as a
. so.tredirtion or M. I)emnnt.
Mr. Williams said, that the preamble of the Pill, and, in
&wt, the whole of the proreerliotee against her Majesty, 3m.
policy a criminal intercourse with Bergame, and Dermot
h it iof amerbrel, no her oath, that she mitt nothing of the
cundrel of her Retied Niftineee in her house tow tolls Per
eami, till she made her deposition at Milan—if Ise could
',tote that she had anteriorly stated Art she weer saw any
thing like levity Is the conduct of her Royal Ilighotee, soil
that the whole were nothing hut the calumnies of her Royal
Highness's soremies—if, he repeated, he remold prove this,
storey it world he a contradiction of her testimosty.
Lord Erskine thong's' the evidence at all creels ashnissi-
b`e, on tbe ground of affecting the eredibility of Demons.
Lord Lawderdate (we sadeestood) was adverse to Om evi-
dence being reesived.
Lord &thine void a few weeds, sot audible below the bar.
The Lord CINISCCII4/ said, thst the evidence was tendered
by the a:toenail for the defence, in contradiction of what had
been sworn to by Dement. He might possibly be mis-
taken, but he thought the evidence was admissible as con-
t.:dialing that of Deoriont. Looking to her finable 'Oen-
dreg, sad the whole of her evidence, he could not but think
so. "Ibis was his opinion, and though he knew that others,
w' use opinitnis he respected very hiehle, differed from him,
it -suet act no that uproot..
The questios was then repeated.
I observed to Madame [Lemont, that the Princess of
Vales was a libertine. a woman of intrigue; I said so
yeeekiy, because that yes my opinion.
ha hat answer dist Dement give to your observation ? She
jot hetsielf is a great passion, and said it was nothing but
columnar, invented by her ettemies in order to roue her.
Did she say any Hoeg more' She raid all that was good
of the Prices'; that she never observed any thing about
ti..e Prioress but what nos good.
Ded you bear Demont say any thing about spies' She
told me that ever since the Proteees had quitted England
bees always surrounded with spies.
Interpreter—She said something more; and that every
strum which she did, even the most simple and with the
beet 'wear, 111 l 1, was misinterpreted; that the Princess knew
eery well that she was surrounded with spies, but that she
did metbine hut what she was willing that all the world
atigin know of.
Did you ever observe to Demme, that as she had been
always about the person of the Princess, she must tee well
aroeinated with her actions
The SulteetorGeneral wished the question to be put in a
wore general way.
The Lord Chancellor—You may ask whether she said any
11‘nt to Demon shout Demont's being aboutillhe person
ot the Princess.
Williams—Ask her, if she remembers seeing any
ten; g to Demuist about Demont's being about the person of
the Mincers? I only recollect what I hese just said.
Doi you inquire of Deenont say thief short the chastity
• the Princess? Yes; I asked her whether she had ever
ober red any thing of the Process.
YIL4i odd she antler.? She atrwered No, she never ob.
served any thing, and it was impossible to be more tat woos
than my Princess.
Do you remember any thing being said by Dement about
the old King? She said, is conversation, that the old Klieg
was the only support the Princess bad.
Having stated that she has on several occasions seen De-
mon!, ask her whether she knows Dement well, and Dimwit
knows bee well' Yes
Does she remember seeing Demont again in the course of
the year lalS? Yes
About what time in ISIS) la the month of November,
11th.
Mr. ‘V;llienss said, that he should not parser the exami-
heron further. This was all be should ask.
Cross4aamined by tie Solicitor-General.

What makes you remember so well that this conversation
with Madame Deanna took place in the year ISIS'
muse I saw her deposition in the public paper., and then I
openly expressed may indignation that she could have said
what abe did say to roe, and then make such a deposition.
Well now, answer my question—what cirromstance led
you to ',collect that this took place in the 'ear IBIS' Fk-
ratige she employed me in altering a bat or bonnet, sod she
took it back from me on the 22d of April, 1818, as appeals
by the entries in my Jay-hunk.
Was not that the year your holdalld was in embarrassed
circumstance' '—
Mr. Wilt:ems objected to She question, because it warned
a fact which was not mu evidence.
State whether your husband was out in embarrassed cir-
eurostaores that year, and io what pail of it My husband
was never in ecnltsmirsed circumstaacaa.
Will you swear that your husband was not a bankrupt
My good God, yes' DeWitt. he nor I.
Haw far from Marge. 11 it to Columbia, where Madame
Domini lives! A short league.
How Maly times in the amuse of that year did yon see

741tharse DPerent 1 bate sera her sereral lif IN, but II rely

Lima 1

the Princess? I have semi her several times at Marrs, when
she tame to mit -Oksrefistuse to bey ..vevaa Mega.
Did your actrisistanee cousinetice in the manner yon have
just stated by M. Densuors coming to your shop to buy
things ? Yes.
Can yos recollect what was the first time she came to
slake any porclome ? Nhra she was at Morges ; when she
was learning to do needle-work with Mademoiselle Rislere.
How loud is Ono ago ? Msdesnoiselle Demont mu-t have
been then about fifteen or sixteen years of age, as I have
stated.
Rut as 1 don't know the age of Madame Demont at pre-
sent, I wish to know about what distance of time that was ?
1 do out know ; Madame Dimwit was then Time you'll:.
My question is, &hittt how many years ago slid that hap•
pen ? I marmot recollect the !smite time, it wtes when Ma-
dame Lemont was quite young, learning to make hats and
do other things.
I. it live or ten years slice that time? 1 cannot tell, I
only knsisk that she was thee quite young; she was at filorges
learning to work.
Do you mein to swear that yon cannot ten whether it Is
five or ten years since? Yes (with great promptuem), I can
bW,':ll. b. cause I don't know.
WWI 11 nearer to three or ten years; yes don't mean that
ynn can't say that ? Yell, I can't say; 1 swear I know no-
thing about it ,• Mademoiselle ttidere may be written to, and
she will give this information.
Do you torah to swear, on the oath ran here taken, that
von don't know whether it was three or ten years ago!' Ves,
1 can swear it, for 1 cau't swear to what I du not know, what
I do not email-et.
Il,ve the goodness to state who was present when this
conver,it• with Demon took place; The Demoiselles
Jarroix, two sisters.
Wises c are the Dcmoiselles heroin now? There is one of
th•-m at the other is at her counting house at
Mows.
Did the conversation lake place in the counting-house of
the Jacroix's sir in your own house? At the louse of the
Jacroix.

Was M. Demervit hying there at that time? She was
there. on a visit.

Having told •• that the Demoiselles heroin were !here,
de you mean to state that the conversation took place imam.
soda eircums.ances that they most have heard it' They
hood almost the whole of it ; they were cuing in and corn-
ing of the room where it took place the greatest own of
the times hot there were several things said to which tba y
objected; they even found fault with my making that üb-
orevation to Demont.

IVlnu were you first examined as to that con rrrrr lion '
Tlw listerpecter--She asks whether you mean examined
before those gentlemen who Caine to Switzerland ? Yes.
About a fortnight ago.
Who were those grntlemeu> One of them was a Mr.
Car.tone, the other, I believe, was Mr. Johnson, but I
can't tell rightly, because they are English names.
Wag it pot down in writing? Yes.
Did they leave a copy with yow No.
Del yule keep a copy yourself No.
Did you put it aura w writing before you came here' No.
Who came over with you to this c try Mr. Barry.
Any body else? I could Not travel along public roads
without my husband.
What bargain have you and your husband made as n re.
ward for compeanati rrrr My husband has hill nothing to
alo with that; the gentleman who codicil on ns told me that
we should be indemnified in a just and lawful manner.
_ .

Was no ;um mew' ed As I did not know those ten.
tlensen I would not trust their word ; because two years
avt an Emeltsbni in, named Addison, uccaqioued me a NMI
of 50 I ; and on this account they have deposited the
suns of 1001. at a banker's at Merges, as a sscurity fur
their 1/11.011 j.es.
. .

- - - -
Is that lOW. to lie paid to you' That sum rant be paid
to me without an order from thwe gentlemen, because it is
only I. ft by way of security.
Have you the promise fur the payment of No,
no; wily fur *bit Goreroment will ;raw as a justifiable
olluwauce; because they said they did not wish—it was out
their intention to buy witnesses.
Jtr yon mean to swear, that shire you came into this
country no ',runtime Isis been mode to you. or yollf linsband,
of any particular stout of money Hy nobody. I swear it.
I tell the exact troth.

Have you received any thing I have received 70f. on
account, because there is a suit depending whirh may be
decided agsanst am., if I an nut dire on the 24th of nest
mouth,end nut hanseing hare long ?should have to remsin in
London, I would nut Irate my offsirs to strangers without
aecsarily from lugs in my abseuce.
Besides thai slam were your espenees paid na the road ?
Those ;;entlemen paid the expenses of the journey.
Did you bevel post! Tea.

How much, besides the 701., do you: expert to receive ss
rompeemtinu for rouling here as a witness? As my whole
dependence is on what the Government may think proper to
'Mow, I can't say !expect any fixed sum My louslimd and
I left our affairs in the hands of strangers; a person whom
I place(' in my room, and three young wsmeu who are in
the

Then 'au have no expectation of any precise sum I have
hail no such promise; they said nothing about it, either to
me or my hirsbenil. •
Where du you live now We arrived here last night. We
have been placed somewhere, I don't kiwi/ where; but here
1 am to-day.

au be bow well bey a Caw retold be !mantled tit%
the professional agents were allowed to be repeat.
'''-ess was one of them who had been exempted by the
the h ouse from the rule which had bees laid
foe abeaimikeeles eatwiteeepri called is the came der.
otbei parted tbggelyguedimp.
- lAsed Ossisedlai directed the emminstiou to go on.
.r. C. Lemssa was dem examined by Mr. Tyndall as to
journey to Carlarittie, to require the attendance of the
'- of the Grand Duke of Padre.
_a to gently the same effect as formerly...
Carlsenhe belief's the 13th and 14th of '
inquired for the Venom D'Ende, Ch amber-
! of the Grand Duke, and learnt that he was at Baden.
On the Mod to Baden he met the carriage of the Chamber.
lain, into winch the witness we* taken, and relented with
the Berm to his own bowie at Carlarube; the witness con.
linned its couverssition with the Baron, from which he lead
not the slightest doubt that the Baron was willing to come
over as a willies'. The Baron had left his in• les at his.
den, without which he could not give any answers to
the questions asked be the witness. The wittitait went
Hs Darmstadt, and did not return to Carlsrtihe till
titeToses.lny fullowieg. Jo the evening he anw the Rayon
again, who took him in his carriage on Wedneaday to Bidet/.
When at Baden the waiter. took down Ilse deposition, while
the Baron consulted his journal. Baron chewed ilto
• witness several letters which he had received hen. her Me.
jeviy. The witness left Baden, the Baron observing to biro,
that no the iofureriation which hr had to give would be in
his official capacity, he cook! lout Ku without the leave of
' the (iratiJ, Doke, who was absent front Ctorlooroolle. The
witness learned frum the Baron, thin when the Grum' Duke

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• The MiiIIMS Will stopped, sad a short argument ensiled
upon the admissibility of suit evidence.
The Earl of Live. mod uhservell, drat as the correspond.
elver 'ea% already on the table, the questina would lee WI
effectually answered by referring Su that.
The Sulicitur•General suggested that the papers could lie
no evidence in this noise
The Dori' Chancellor intimated that the Learned Counsel
must nut oiteifere %vial any proceedings within the body of
the House.
Mr. Leman'sewtnrination was resumed.

Thr t;rand Dupe returned on the Roth. On the morning of
the 23d the Baron come to the witueiswith the letter from the
Queen in his hand, and told witness that he was going to the
Palace to act for permission to come to England. The Baron
went towards the Palace, and in half an hour retorted, saying,
that he had laid news for the witness ; he was nut permitted
to go. The Baron appeared much agitated and extremely
vexed, polling the hand of the wiinen upon, hi. breast, and
bidding him observe how his heart was beating. The wit-
ness afterwards wrote a letter to the Baran ; he tendered the
ropy to the House, but it was rejected. He received
verbal communication afterwards from the Baron by a
friend of his, an °Biter in the Duke's Life Guards, by which
the U .ron informed the w linen that he could nut nooke the
neerseary deposition will t the e°wu•ti of the Grand
Duke, told lie declined molding any written answer to her
3laesty's litter.
Ilur► ' by the Earl of LisTrpeol—sAfter you hail pre-
y:Alert on the Baron Eudeio ask permission to come to Log.
!awl, 111.1 you any reason to believe that it wan not intim,.
WO ur the Queen's defence tbat Bsrun D'Encle should come
as a wittier,

The Martinis of Lanadown said, that the question was of
the same t tweeter an That of a great ley to which an.
swers hail teen refased whets pat by oilier Noh'e Lords, on
the ;runnel of the indelicacy of asking en agent questions
aiTecting the interests of his principal.
The Earl of Liverpool thought that a great many pees.
Cons of a similar nature had been put before—if it were
iitiorwise, he was very willing to withdraw it.
The Marquis of Lrotsdown observed, that there was an-
other objection to it ; it was a colourable qmestioit.
The Earl of Liverpool said that he would withdraw the
question.
Mr. HlMltliftED ~aid, that he had no objtetion to the spies.
lion being put. It certainly was a novel tieing to attempt
to extract the secrets of the care of • principal from the lip.
of his agent's clerk. The whole of the proceeding* were,
however, of a novel character, and perhaps he noglat nut to
w her at any •ovelty whirls might lie introduced.
The Earl of Liverpool—l withdraw the question.
Mr. Brougham said, that there was a legal mode of ar-
riving at the answer sought by the Noble Lord, and that
was founded sin an analugou► practice of tin: Lower Courts
of receiving the affidavit of the attorney in the cause as to
the reasons for the absence of a witness, or the importance of
his testimony in the elitist.. If their Lordships chose to re-
sort to a• analogous and legal course, he shouid put Mr.
Picard, her Majesty's solicitor, to the bar, who would be
able to +at isfy their Lordships that the evidence of the B ,ron
d- [side was mind essential to her Majesty's cause, and that
it had become more essential ■t the time that Mr. Leman
waited on him at Cerlsruhe than ever it had ifrell before.

Hy a Pcer—Dill the Baron appear in perfect health when,
you saw him? Yes.
The witness we- ordered to withdraw.

Mr. Brougham said he haul *oven ime remarkable instance
to their Lordships of the difficulties which had up' d her
Majesty, and without intending. to throw blame tin any per-
son in this country, be wool.) put it to their Lordships whe-
ther they coold proceed one step further with espial lustier
to both the parties. From the correspondence laid upon
their Loisiships' table, it would appear that the Grand Duke
had given the Baron AT.nde Isis (tinge", a word of ominous
sound to the ears of a courtier, meaning leave ho go, but no
permission to come back. It we, the word Melt by Sure-
rcigiss to a faithful servant whose fare they never desired to
see again. " If you wish it," Nuys the Baron Bersleit," you
may go to Loudon, or where else you please;" but then the
permission had been recorded in that ill-omened word, that
it was nut surprising the Baron fell ill 7 for he did not meats
to impute falsehood h. the Bunn, when he declared be was
unable to come ten uccount of ill lira Ith—no—far from it ;
for be doubted not when that ugly-suendiog word corgi met
his ear, he had rapes ienced a spasm itt that part of his frame
which Mr. Leman bad felt.—Onecensequemewas quite-clear,
that Kress, n ho had given evidence against he• Majesty, was
Rent over by Baron Busiest to this country by compulsion.
The Munster., the Battens, the Drimma, had put themselves
i/71111.1111511,911111 prOntr.d compulsion lo be used towards Kress,
but airy bad not compelled the Barou d'Eutle. Again, be
repeated, that he threw no blame uu arty pe►son. but be se-
riously and solemnly called on thei► Lordship+ to consider
all thi: C111:11111$111,1CP• of the ease. They had it isa proof,
that the process of their Court, themes aided by all the in.
Monier of his Majesty's Minister shroud, could not rim
intulthuse places from whence witnesses lied been brought
against the Queen, and from a hence witeirczirs might have
been procured iu her favour. Ile would therefore ask their
Lordships, whether, from ceases over whirls neither lie oar
their Lorillips had any control, it was nut impossible to
continue the proceedings with joatice to the Querio and
sore be was, that the other party could not desire it. If his
Majesty were that other party, be was must certain that he
was the last mail in the world elm would desire the conti-
nuance of the proceedings fur a moment, if they involved
injustice to her M iijesty.

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Lord Holland requested the Clerk In read Ike evidence
Riven by Barbara Kress, relative to the pervious who hail
compelled her attendance iii this country. - Aft.er which he
moved, that the eurrespuirdeuce laid tot their Lordships'
table be now read.
The Clerk haring read the correspondence accordingly,
Lord Holland rose, and said, he could not reconcile it to
his sense of duty, to allow their Lordships to go on, w bunt
drawing their attention in the most solemn manlier lc was
able, tip the evidence which they had just heard, iii curijuue-
tion with she correspondence which related to it; so both
which lie begged them to give their most earnest considera-
tion.
After a short pause, the Lord Chineellor called oa the
(men's Counsel to proceed.
Mr. Brougham said, that under all the circumstances, and
recollecting what bad passed on a former OCCIISIUII, when lie
(desired to have re-called Sacchi, he thought it impossible for
bum to proceed in calling any more witnesses.
The Attorney-General asked, if his Learned Friend would
address their Lordships now or after he had called his
witnesses.
The Lord Chariecllor said, her Majesty's Couasel could
ant be called upon to address the House till after the •ttur-

itt7Zellitilti Ilia earid nth *Roma NI is t►.a tended
to coll.

The Attorney-Getters! milk the Home would give hive
credit for sot desielent to call any witnesses but ouch no he
conceived to be import:ll4mnd ouch as be wee omitted to
call. He breed their Lorthhipe attention to that part of
thedefinsee in which a supposed emispirsey out the poet of
the Geollemeii of the MitneConitestimiene wee attempted to
he roved. He had unJeistood his !Rattled Friend to have
stated that it was no part of his ease to establiah a ronispis

nay. Ithistwitiatomoliiog that declaration, witnessea had biarn
called with the natation of proving that undo, peacticos
hail taken place on the part of Colouel Brown, not cooly to
procure witnesses, lint papers of importance to her 100.
Jetty. The moment he heard those charges, he felt it neces-
sary to apprise Colonel Brown of them, and regnire his at-
tesdance ; but the distance at which hr WAS had
onfortu-
wifely prevented him being now in aitemilance on their Lord-
ships. Although hr haolsorne whom,* ready, he felt that
their Los elstrips would mot have forgiven hint if he hid pro-
ceeded to examine them and then asked for delay. A. Col.
Brown was 1101 here, nail as their townships kid I.
pleased to permit the inquiry to he ensile, in whirls Chaff
Gentleman had holm atteuspteal to be 'implicated, he frit as.
stored they would nut prevent his calling Wilnre/Sell to repo
the rhaeze. lie therefore threw himself on thew Lordships'
indulgence 111 allow 11011 sufficieut tone lu produce Colonel
Brown, to refute the aspersions which it hail been Mien, plc.!
t • lee thrown upon his character, as it would lie the highest
injustice. to stiffer those trimerameis it. go fortis to the world,
whew he had to doubt they were entirely unfounded.
Mr. Broisellam —Anil now I ask, *Matter your Lordship/
sae a COilll Of J office thrice ! Order !:
The Solicitor-General laid, before Mr. Brougham replied
he amnia leg to state, that the t7oornarl for the 11111 had felt
it lu he ahsolniely necessary to call :aim Colonel Brown, to
MO the clirtiges mole against hint. )lad they been aware of
Autnati heieg called; bed it been upend by his Learned
Friend what he meant to prove, it would have been their
duty to hove sent to Milan to wormy svulerdre to refute it.
But as it had not been opened by Mr. thougham, and as it
was necessary he the character of Colonel Brown, and moan-
list to the measure before Ike titular, the Counsel for the Bill
bad Collellfred FM the necessity of make's' that application to
their Lordships. When a witov.s hoed stated misconried on
the part of Colonel 1101W11, sorely it wa• not asking tour innek
of their Lortlohips to allow then, lime to produce Colonel
Brown at their Lordship"' bar. The maims. sit charges were
made, the i.istaart the witness app-nred mil Slow Lordships'
Nor, the Attoroey-General hail dispatched a loess. ogee to
Milan to induce the attendance of Colonel 'hose
gronnds he trowel their Lordships sa maid grant !lie necessary
lime for that Gentleman's appeelauce.
:We Brougham said, that nothing which had fallen nom
Ms Learned Friend who had !ail thene 'mimed
him to depart from the itisestion whirh he hal pot et the rime
of the speech of his learned Leader, Were their Lordship**
Omit of Jostice ' He asked the EportMis, for valencye it
suited the portemes of his Learned Friends—whenever on ad-
vent:tee was he he gainedolten he masts. iw hound by the nine-
fold technical', lei. of the Courts below, and he was Ireoreoted
from stet ring nit of the mazes' in which tratadand perjury his I
ationplen to entangle 164 Illustrious Cliest. When he ad.
&eased himaelf t.e their Lordships at a Legislative Body,
with referenee to the men•ore on which they were lora-
Wine, then he was told by his Learned Fries& that he was
a Court or Jostles., and most be bound by its severest
roles. Now by adopting new arms, by seising new pelt's,-
pier (if principles they roisht lee called), be sass 10 know
thret their Lordships were no luuyer a Coon of Justice, het
ri /louse of Parliament, and that he was nut to appeal to
the rules of the Coasts below, Itemise their lairolahips
were superior to those Coast% and nut 10 161,10)141111 by
their rules. Ile risked, since Justice rya. known upon
earth; sine, it hail been ailoviaistered in Courts; niece
respect had been paid to forms as the handmaids of
Jnatice, if so monstrous a proposition as hi. loarotal
Friends had ever, he would not say beta entertained, butt
ever attempted 111 be made, It wa. the lhoreii who wi. out
her defence, and nut Colonel Browis shin was na his trial.
But because his name hail loom in eitioned, the Queen was
to he forgotten--no, out forgotten, Imi remembered only to
he trampled noon ; and foe what Its save, the name of the
gallant Colonel Bniwn from imputation: Ilad he ,-"111r.
Brougham) ever •ttessopted such a ileviat• , not from the
femme hut front the very essence of justice? And against
whom and Co whom was the monstrous novelty produced?
Against her Majesty, who lend already hone all the die.
nalventaera which resulted from the mode of proceeding
adopted—and in favour of the piemeculor, Mcaisse the
name of nest of his retooled alcnts had been intio•
lured in the eaglet. Again be moat beg to remind their
Lordships that Colonel Brown was no party there;
it was their first linty to .1., javetire to her Majesty, mod
afterward. Colonel Brown might he heard if their Lordships
tholight fit. Ile had been told that hr had taken hit
Learned Friends by surprise, and on that aermitit they
claimed the unprecedented. the unheard:lf nyelauce of
Chipping the darner of the accused party, in order to mend
the case of the proaecution by calling fresh silo . If
their lordships would call open hint to nrgne the (location,
he would raiment! that even Nom his Lessened Friend's own
reasonine, tle• arg ttttt Nit was in Ilia &rum. It was not true
that they were taken by sursoile, for tl els he had
said in his opening that he charged nu one with con.
sparer!, could any person who had slime him the tow
noise to nitro.' to what he hail stated, eatertain a doubt'
that althonell he abandoned the word, he had clone the
closer to the fhtere--that he had only wished t . avoid on
odious word (us he hail esom thins avoided culling it a plot
or conspiracysi—beside*, bad) he not followed op that ex-
pression of abdisience by a substantial statement, which, be
levitated, lived in the reciiltectiou of their lordship. ? But
lie well recollected having staled that if those pensions had
been conspirators—hail been plotter, against the Queen—
they °neat to have carried on flow nieasures more like con-
spirators or plotters than they had done. But allowing
• Wilts& that the authors of the Bill could require,
that Colonel Brown was entirely out of the case, did they
imagine that from Anenst, ahem the Bill was first read, to
October, when her Majesty's defence begin—did they
Better themselves they could steer so clearly along that nu
attack wool', be mane on Colonel Brown and his coadjutors?
That they were taken by surprise, they refereed 10 the evi-
dence of Amunti. But had their Lordships semi the cross.
examination of that evidener--had they Arrived the brirf
which his Learned Friend drew from his well-stored reposi-
tory the inatant the name of Amami eseapen him lips;
then it Wall that the innocent Gentlemen on the other side,
and the still more innocent Milan Consmiasionera, being
utterly at • loss to divine what it was the said 'lomat'
could be called to prove—then it was lilt Learned Friend
drew forth, brief from which he was corklike, to cross-exam i or
the witness in the manner that their Lordships conhi not "int
recollect. They were enabled to make that cxaminalinu
from an examination taken months before at Milan, in an
action brought by the witness to recover damagts against that
Viten:we'll, the aceitt of those simple, innocent people. From
That proceeding they knew all the particulars of the witness;
they were aware of his person, and they had pot titivation
after question as il/ certain dreier:atom., which Col. Brown
anal coo sober person could have too 'Oohed them with pro.
apectivel).', to case Aittosati should he called as a witness.
They haul now the audacity (for he would apply that term to
the employers of his Learned Friettels) to COllle and complaiu
to their Lordships that they hod not had due notice. Their
next c ttttt plaint would be, that they hail not toren furni•lied
with a list of the witnesses and a apt ciheateau of the charges.
They (Ihe Queen's Counsel) had complained of that Wore
the bk.giunlng, fur they had foreseen the :attendant difficul-
ties; but what they heel not foreseen was the probability,
the possibility of an •pplicaliam like the present. Would
their Lordships suspend her Majesty's defence again, and
subject her to the recurrence of that asexiety, that semsy, the
lake of which, lie could solensule *afore their Lordship., he
never saw agitate the hnusan Nome before? Would they
continue her Majesty in the at 'Sc or tortnesit which Poch a
proceeding must produce—would they deviate/roes the roles
of mill Courts, from their own rules (by which they bad held
him bound",--.woutil they make that deviation now for some.
thing wild, dark, chimerical, for something unknown (the
simplest phrase was here the strongest) to lawyers, and new
to the Courts? Would they do all that to details his Illus-
trious Client in that torture which sods conduct had in.
'belied, in order, on the other aide, to mend a caw rotten it',
iteelf (but whichliatibeen crumbled to dust by the encewf
ittuocency redone). sad %lamb) to monists with coo-
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limitary a proclaim momenta 1i Gv rpirir of unprere.
dented, gratuitous, and shameless cruelty
Mr. Denman followed. He held it to he hie duty to sad
a few words to what had Callen from his !owned Friend.
This was nut votively an uociampled
widar nue hail tofoie occulted in the roarer of tile.,
proceeding.. Hut though not teurnrainpled, it %was ip,r
which, if granted, would not only he fatal to the raii.e
of this Illusiening Person, hill of carry iodiwidn.l to
whom it might falLhoriesie jostiace the Cowie of Liegbiait.

MAI MN' the grosthil of this uppliestiou r That Cobol.,
Brown was not now in Entails', hos at Mho. (If the,
fact he had a right 13 y..11)10441 ; and was the mime of the
(teeth to he "appended no such 3 ground ? Was it not the
most •nontalous of all the moan dire of this sittrawerlir try
pcuceeitieg, that they wham lahouss formed the graeig_
work of the peosteistimi, plaield not have heel memos
oaring the whole or its proves"? lit meant (blond
Mown and the oilier Agent. of she Milan Ciontnissioe, ur
those Haes.verissi erwiguries us whore previous toleration*
shot oimmission originated; fur from the M.:411 Comiall.
mon, or folio Hanover, this whole proceeding ha 4 its 'i.e.
Art was tt nut a most withearilmf eirroimmoice, that y
who had hero She lelters.ar of the whole 1.a.,. sannldhare
been downl ihrolighont the whole of it. proven, am) then
their eissfore .lismart 11 "wide the grown'l of an applications
for flusher delay Repeated refereed,* h tit been nude
llssonchuirt there proceeding" to Ike pructi,-r of the Covens
Seism; bat whets they talk. it of the Comte below ••
an authority fur such a pviierciling, they rioglit h. 11.001
and Soil, their heads at the comparisior. %Viet Ingo
was 111•10 1111 ill ui quaintest with the proererlasgs of
those Cowrie, bet that 'suit know that whim culled no as
answer N. auy chas=e before Slam, hr mosl be mole se-
quaintest wish the specific rounds of the charge, alit Mg
wow have undergone at' examioutirso hefise a Magistrate,
lure to hew with the grime.. sby %shone milli-lice die (1141. gt;
was to I.e Sllliaille3; that Si.,' 411104.11,311 a, ur ihrl,ge won,
magi have been laid before a Chino.' .Ivry, who alter tho.
roughly discovering them, roost hire dicks...l upon north thi•
groans,* existed for the chaise ; wherean they had hero
cos the auk, and, ii. oral of all thou advantages. Issof
been cl.rtizisil to WWl'li to she definer of their dont.
So far from she sweeties: of the Coatis below alforilme;
soy groom for ally such i.“!trlgesice, she absence f.•.'
Colonel Blown true 4 ',llion why they *hurl.) proem.' at
at once to dispose of the case. lAiS Culooel Brown's chs.
rector inci.s in driest-..the character* of the Milan Con-
inissiithers twist hr fiC4tell—the eharaders she it agents
rout lie cleared—the charartres of all nin.t he ekared out
slue Utter,, or Bottom!. Whenever i.e had found it ease',
tial In his rs.e to intimiore any evidemee tooelnegon points
• coossected wills ihoae perreisis, he was always met with
carlogies of their ritual-firm-1w Led Len shirt en the lei?
threshold lit his argiamem, by a torrent of some
adapted to the persona to wholes they wi re paiticolai.y
applied, and atlases in Wank that were kept in erailime.. to
he filled op for any prawn who ea* supportd to stand or
med of them. He COMplaiiiril that Colonel Itrnwn, who
might to have lyres, present, was not here, and that his air•
seswe wart made Slur pert. u of an •ppliention fur a ilelsy ;
to grant which would he to treat the IS•elins. of her Maim, y
with no loose romidrealiiin than if she were the iwassimaie
objets ut a chemical isaierimeirt. BM it wag said that
they had Isere taken isnawaress.-that they had not isperod
the c inch of Colonel Brown, ur she Milan Cognmiusun„
would he at 11l introduted Otto Phil inquiry. It was fat..
that they did mil Isuarcr it ; every page of the evidence
proved she falsehood of the astertiost. that they had leis,
taker by surprise. Nut • witneu had hese tX41111tOto".
front Bastelli downwards, who hail not been riatstarerd
on those point.: nay-, Majrwehi, on the very toast
day of his. examination, suit all the lionesses silo-
him had been rross-examilierl, touching the practices
of liiknercoli, Carload Brown, anti the other *gnus of hbe
Milass Commission. And if Colonel &mem rueld be pre-
pared *Oh floe brief from w hit It Aemali hail beta crms-
regmincil, what preterit could three he for saying that he
was nos aware of his conduct becoming the .ultjrrf of m.
vestigation in these pyoceedings! He did out epoxide', co-
lonel BIIIVOIt to In the person who (veld lie affected by th
proceeding. in the manner whir ft hail ltee coutended:. but.
by the delay now sought fur, female reputation would ka-
put an the rack, sod the tosinee to the illueithrow victim
"mold he far more heavy Hem any punishment which their
Lordships (mild inflict : world they then consent at gras
it? (Jto what grounds too ways this appliddion as he al-
lowed? It was said that this was a Pill of Mimic.,
lint he had heard it stated, upon authority %illicit be had F.I.P
shot.. nor any reason to iiropexchi that the divorce foisoioh
was to be given up. Hut yes it would colitinue to be a BO'
of degradation and dethronement. But sappoae the only
polo and newelly if involved were the plimouncing of their
niliol.lll tin the allegation* of the preanthle to
this Bill, those allegaii alone most lie the *object or their
consideration; and un a mere question of Ilte taet of tiler.
being priors d, alias could entitle his Learned Entails to this
indulgence? Were they not also aware that if 'rusted it
imist necepsarlly be reciprocal? Thai if Colonel Brim it
were coldest to it, every witness that bad hem retie.?
against lobo must be emitted to the ..acne? And ic
such a case what possible prospect could there he er
any ternaisistion to there proceilins 1 They hod been told at
the comm. ',cement of these pruceedinvi, that as they hail
been instituted for the sake of sohltantial jostler, all poei-
ble cons:emotion should be made to those who had leen in.
trusted with the Qui defence, for the ineumeineuces to
whirl, they m:ght be inbjected by the refusal to famish Slum
with a specific:allow of the charges and lists of the witheases-
Now was the time when, enseriving it to be their duty to
bring the ease to a close, they considered themselves boom!
to ask for that conspensation. It had been ohjected to them,
and on that ground they had been prevented from prism fully
into evidence •o that head, that the charge of conspiracy
against Colonel Brown had not hero introduced lit
the opening speech of his Lunged Ffienil, Mr Brougham.
Three years hiving elapsed since the "veiling of tier
Cumeniaslon—that Commission having tooted the ;roam:.
work of the proceeding agaisial the Queen—could it be Pos-
sible that the') should suppose those proceedings could be
tarried Hormel' without their ono conduct becomin the
subject of obwevati 0000 ? Instead of alleolisig, as had been
done, fo that sulject not having been opened in the speech.
of his Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham), ought they out, in
candour, rasher to hare ask. it, whether A unu.ti ass its
country at that time, and whether it was possible therefore
dint She sohject of his te.timony could be opened in that
speech' Hut it had from the liegitioing bees pet f city char
that she Milan Commission had prepared she sithject of this
inquiry, and that is the defence else/ meat seeesiorily he
led to Hie cousideration of the ground+, and the mode
pursued by that Commission in petting forth those
charges against the Queen. The question was simply,
as his Learned Feared had enendically expre.real
it, whether they would do that which no Win!
English Court would do ? Would any man say, that
in soy Court of English Justice, if the Serowe in any pro-
ceeding involved au attack on the character of the pr0...c0-00000
00000 sbas scald be deemed a *efficient ground far delay to
rumble the Prosecutor Si. repel that sited. It woe fit that
they should look back a faille at the mode of peoccediug in
this instance. At the chose of she ease fur she prosecu-
tion, a similar application hod been made for delay Si.. pro.
cure the attendance of cs'i con suppoastitious witnesses froe •
Lngano; their Lordships had ref./sects° accede to that arpi
cation; and they (the Queen'sCowoul) had been forced to
their elution, if, under the risen mitairees, declaim it could be
called, of proceeding ilibinf-diati!). rte taking then the delay
which it ous requisite for preparing for their ilefeuce. It wow
nut possible that bens that circumstance they should
ssliei-
pateae application of this nature in this stage of the cause;
acid be relied upon their Lordships a" a Court of JUI:ICV sot
to grant it. They had had no such indulgence. When her Ma-
jesty applied before the commencement of these proceedings
fir such a delay as was neresury to enattle her to ricrace fur
her defend., it was said, '• No, we will nut grout your re-
quest, but we will begin immediately, and when the prose-
cution is closed, Shea los shall have whatever lime may be
necessary." Good God! when such was the mode of treat-
ment adopted towel& the Climes', who could hue foreseen
that this applicaC would ever he made? When, after
the opening of the case, wish all the seal which the Astor-
ney•Gencral had divplayed--allei Noe evidentaing support
of the Bill had hems all gone thicifiii--arter Soliciler-
General had "timened thig evillbutai wish ottNibulseases•
of his acute legal lee Auk (the thrtailklessasal)
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spoke to ber twice. the professional agents
How many times did pro see her in the year 1117 ? I did witness was one of thrill
sot eve her in that rm. Order of the bloom fr
How Wog before April, 1111, did yen see her ? 1 did down for Ilas osidusess
ant on her before it ; 1 knew she woo is the semidry or the ing other parts of the p
seighboarbood, bet 1 did wee see her before. The Lord atsseolior
1 west to know did eshe over see bee befog* April, 111111? Mr. C. LOOMS wee d
1 have mew her Masse she rowed the service of the Princess hie jeeeree, so coelemel
of Wake ; bet after esti/vise the Irriniren's service, the first Gum! Chamberlain of
shoal sow bar was is Aprilrlllll,eight days before the cun. - The witness dermal
venation. That be arrived at Carl
Where did ahem, her before she hail entered the service of se sember
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