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,11111 ROYAL ■ARRIA6E ACT.

Lewd Ho/Adige owe notice that he wool(' submit
an Monday next to their Lordships a Bill for the
isurpose of repealing an Act of the lath Geo. 111.
commonly called the Roysl Marriage Act. The
reason which induced bun to select Po early a
day was, that it *Wed have the effect, it his
Majesty did resort to legislative measures on the
painful business before their Lordships, that they
could legislate on the subject divested of all
pains and peivaltire. Besides, if the Bill was al.
lowed to be brought in, it would take off the painful
est! from the Select Committee, which was to
sat no Tuesday, of making their Report, and
it would release the Illustrious Parties from the
palate! and difficult situation they were placed
ig, without any thing appearing derogatory to tht if
high characters. He would therefore submit his
Bill nu Monday, but of any arrangement was made
out of doors before Monday, which he trusted there
might, he would postpone the presenting of the
Bill to a future day, although he had long felt
the propriety of repealing that Act. Ile brought
this not on the euggestion of any lemon. It was
lime he was in The !titbit of convening and eon.
suiting with a number of persons on public ha.
sitwss, but as it related to this subject he had
not ; it war wholly his own suggestion, grounded
on his opinion of the utility of it. Ile would not
then enter • any further exposition of the mo-
tives he was influenced by. as he would have that
opportunity on Monday. His Lordship concluded
by moviog, that their Lordships should be sum-
moned for Monday.—Ordered.-Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Fitiovr, Julia 9.

The gallery was opened to strangers a few minutes after
twu o'clock.

DROGHEDA.

The irttitttt informed the Donee that James Sweeney
and spawns. who had petitioned the Horse against the Elee.
tioo for Drogheda, hail not entered into recognizance, wit►in
the time limited by law.
The order fur considering the Petition, was thew dis-
charged. _ _

-
(ht the motion of Mr. BUTTERWORTH, the Si. Damtan's
la the West Tithe Bill was read a second rims.

LAW BUSINESS (WALES).
Mr. Cmsenal.t. nosed, That an humble Address be pre-
sented to the King, praying that he would be pleased to
order to be laid before the House • retina of all pleas en-
tered in the County and Shelia's' Courts of Wales within She
last Niue years. Also a similar return fur the County of
alonnsuntb.

ENNUI.
0, tko motion of Mr. V. Firaur.aaus, a mew writ was
ordered for t►e borough of Elm% i■ the roan of S. Perfo-
rm!, Esq. who had accepted the "Ace of &cheater of Mae-
ail r. _ _

COALS.
Sir IL KNATCWBULL moved the wood reading of tie
Beat Coal Memo Bill.
Mr. Cst.easrr, Mr. J. SMITE, sod Mr. Hoettouse, op.
posed the not iota.
stir E. KNATCHIBULL replied, and the House diride4,wheo
the worobers '
Fur the second reading
♦gainst It . 14

Majority is favour of the second reading, It
PICTURE IPTTERY.
Oa the motion of Mr. D. GILBRAT, Tomkines Picture
Lottery Rill was read a second time, and committed.

MINES.
Mr. D. GILIBICRT brought in a Bill for rendering property
In Mines subject to assessments fur the pour rates, 'chiefs
was read a first time.
Sir M. w. ItonteY presented a Petition from certain
Landholder*, inhabitants of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Mating
that they were not permitted to vote fur the election of
Steinberg of Parliament Apr that town, or for the county of
Nurthanitherlanil, and Preying that provision might be made
'by the Lrcislstitre tis yrsat livens the right of election in
either place.—Read and laid uu the table.

AGRICULTURE.

Mr. WIMPHOUIR presented a Petition from the Oeenpiere
of Land in the annoy of Norfolk, praying (..r adilitioaal
pro4cclius to the Agricultural Interests.,
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.
A Memage frima the Lords annessiteed that their Lord.
altigma bail agreed to certain Rills, and requested that the
House of COIIIIIIIIIIII would alluw Edward Ellice, EN. one
of their Members, to be examined w n triremes Wort the
Committee um Foreign Trade.

The Meeseuger• were tatriptal by Ihe SPRAWLS. 11114460
Huw.e would scud an Amor, p Ibe latter pin of the pis.
Sage by blepsesiers of 'Wows.
Sir J. STRWAST bfrolool IS p le .104 Ilk irisl9ll4
. . ..; .0 1..).;

SUSSEX ELECTIONS.
Mr. Husetssom, adverting to the Bill brought
in by Mr. Corlett', for transferring the election of
Members of Parliament from Chichester to Lewes,
requested of that Hon. Gentleman, as it was a quest.
tion which concerned the former city sod the free-
holders of the county so materially, that he would
suffer the second reading of the measure to be post.
poised till Wednesday se'unighl.
Mr. CURTEIS assented. • The former order was
discharged, and a new one made for the above day.
THE QUEEN. •
Lord CASTLEREAGH mid, lie rose to move the
Order of the Day for the adjourned debate on the
King's Message, with a view to postpone it till
Monday next....(Led cheers from all parts of
the Hoase.)—ln making the motion, he felt it.
his duty to state. that he submitted the proposition
in consequence of a communication made to the
Earl of Liverpool late in the day.—(Genere/ cries
of Hear.)—He was sure the House, in the present
stage of the busintes, would not expect that be
should enter into any explarrition whatever...—
A-firer, hear.)—But he could assure it, that he pro.
posed this further postponment in the same spirit
in which he and his collewguea bad acquiesced in a
similar proposition on a former fright. The House,
'however, would not entertain the Impression that
any thing which had occurred left him at liberty to
dispense with those cautious which he had thought
it necessary to urge on the adjournment of the deo
bate on IVednesday night.
• Mr. 01100011ASI wits sure tint the same absti.
Renee used by the Noble Lord world be expected
/ram I.iin ; it should be equally observed by him.
Fie had to express his perfect concurrence with the
Noble Lord (Castlereagh), that the effrct of agree-
ing to the proposed motion would be merely keep.
ing matters for the present in the same state in
'which they had been left the other night. With
respect to the delay, and the observation of the No.
ble Lord en the lateness of the hour at which the
communicetints had been received by the Earl of
Liverpool. lie begged distinctly to may. that that
had been the fault of no person.—(Cries of Hear.)
Because there had been a great reluctance in the
quarter from which the communication proceeded
to commence a correspondence, because it might
possibly look like an intention of conceding some.
tiling; whereto the other party, who did not stir,
was not 111 14 situation to be injured by taking the
first step.— ( Hear, /rear.)—But this reluctance had
yielded to the strong soul earnest remonstrances of
her friend* and professional advisers.—(Hear, hear.)
Therefore he hoped it would not be supposed that
her Majesty or her legal advisers had had the least
desire, by the lateness of communication, to take
the Noble Lord by surprise, in order to drive hint
to n further adjouniment.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that in adverting to
the period at which the commitincetion had been
received. he had been misunderstood by the Hon.
and Learned Gentlemen ()Ir. Broughton) ; his in-
tention had been merely to chew that the nine which
had intervened did not admit of the debate being
proceeded in this evening.—(Hear, hear. )—Fle
had meant merely to state the simple fact, that the
communication had been received so late in the
day, that the debate could not be gone on in.
Mr. BROUGHAM was sorry to have been misun.
rierstood by the Noble Lord; but in a case of such
extreme delicacy, he would rather have caused even
an unnecessary explanation, than that the slightest
misapprehension should exist.—(Hear, hear )
Mr. WYNN felt the full value of the soil) which
had been tektir—(flear)—and hoped it woof(' lead
to that coosurnmation which was agreei,ble to the
wishes of all parties iu the House, strongly re-
echoed from all parts of the kingdom.
The debate nit the King's Mescirge was then fur-
ther adjourned till Maild:iy next.
GRAMPOUND.
Lord J. RUSSELL tibart vett. that the next stage
of the Bill for the tlisrmitchiltrnieut of Grutopisusid
was fixed for Monday next, anal lie wished it to be
understood that it was his intention to have it pro-
Ceelled no that day, unless the Noble Lord should
state strong and urgent reasons furs different
course.
EDUCATION.
IakeIIaIISIROMMIN postponed his notice on the
• t:';1

:

14,r 0. WARRENDER moved the Order of the
1/+y for the House going tam a Committee of
Snooty.
Thi SPEAKER having left the Chair—
The Hon. Baronet mid, it was with great esti,-
faction he had to inform the Howse, that a coml.
derahle aiming had been made in the expenditnre
fur the navel service in this us compared with
last year : it amounted (as well as the excessive
noise and confesion in the House ...mid permit Jt
ro collect) to a sum of one hundred and *lateen
thirevand ponied, in the gross. After emend other
oliaersratiour, which we were totally unalde to fol-
low, from the cause mentioned, he moved-.
That it is Noe of ibis Coatthittee, dui a saw ant
Amami I,fM a 1. lielreoved is hi. Majesty fur defray-
tax the arthoraary yeoman of tie Navy Air floe year IMO.
• Sir IL W. BMA, ceisiplasued that the mom-
atersdati.aus of the rimince Committee respectiog
jhe mural expenditirm,were um yet cmnplied with.
mikilist the aseablialment of the Victisalling Beard
,asseso• the some as. in the year 1815. He advert-
ed to certain hardship imposed en Capesiess Clerk..
and also observed, that by the present regulatioos
they were not allowed to drew any of their pay till
their accounts were passed, and suggested the pro.
unity of allowing a portion of it to be drown haste.
heud.on account.
Sir G. COCKBORN had told the Hon. Bart. en
a former occasion, that the individuals in question
would be put in theism. situation., other officer,.
All that could be done for them was, to hold set
the chance of promotion to persershipsa and that
was dour. They had moms of drawing pay from
time to time coder the heed of accessary money.
Sir J. Volute was exceedingly sorry to see how
" weary, stale, flist, and unprofitable' were all the
discussions iu that Howe on the subject of retrench.
I usent.—(Laughter. and cries of Hear.)—The Hon.
illoronet (Sir G. Warresider) had stated, that the
Navy Estimates for this had fallen short of those
fur the preceding year by • hundred thousand
pounds gross. but that was far less than the House
had a right to expect in the fifth yews of piece.
The Hot.. Baronet'. (Sir U. W. Ridley's) observe..
(tons hod hum enveloped in such a haze of noise
that there was some difficolty in underitandisig
them. Here was a balance against the public of
3.0001. for repair. (as we understood) its the Aden.
ralty, when the Home knew that in time of war
there nos is balance unacconeited for, iu favour of
the .mablic, of 20,0001. Probably it might hr
10,0001. iu peace, which added to the 3,000/. made
a total of 13,00 W., for which the public should
hive received credit. He thought the Admirslty
wee s strong this •it might of itself resist all the
atteeks of time, instead of requiring so large a sum
to keep it is order. He should pm over the lest
of the items, which be coosideved to have heel,
made op very fairly, till he cause to the head of

superannuation* and allowatice*, in which there we.
on excess of 26.0001. over the last year.—(Hefir,
Lear.)—The Noble Secretary for reeeigo Affair.
(Lord Castlereagh). io one of those consolasory
lasourgoes he was in the habit of addressing to the
Weir. had mate time since stated, that there
woold be a saving to the country of 100,0004
year by what was vulgarly called " people crtio.
-isic to exist."—(A Ittagh.)—Now if the mode
.of reduction acted on here was to form the cll.
terion of what was to he expected in all the greatly
multiplied and overgrown establishments of the
country, M what is called the public expenditure."
said the lion. Baronet, 86 is oar only worm that
never dies."—(Cheers and latighter.)—The Chats.
cello, of the Exchequer, he observed, smiled always
at his (Sir J. Yorke's) remarks. Bat unless he
had some secret mode of saving, known only to
himself, there wee a poor chance of treasure for the
country. at least on earth; perhaps, •
Right Honourable Gentleman was '
it treasure in Heaven.—(Lord
first gun that fired with a shot
knock down the 3 per Cents. to
Unless the Right Hon.. Gentleman
purse, of which the piehlic knew
would he eat up by and by with _
and allowsoces.—(laxgOer.)*They were
every day increasing all the officers --
had three Chancellors—(4 &nigh)
*boot ; Consweissiooers of the Nr

The gentlemen had all fine aitestiona
esuses, ■nd might lire a thousand
mitigh.)—He waisted to knew
Friend under him (Sir George
none w.is better qualified thou him
ewer, for he bad served with distil

on the American station, whether
step to lay down the HsVox yard—re
worth while to take it for the paltry
it ? The repairs of Chet great ►mldit
rally, Lord bless is !" cried
able Baronet—(a larg/r)—P quit-
saved by it." At present certainly there sposeasost
to be a mutual port temper betweeo *mem+ sod
this country, whether it was in consegori.ce
Slot +laving soy money on either or...4ury I
not then inquire.—/A laegk.)..—Clit
it wise., which he thought would be
of the measure, to spike the label
Scotia more Americaus is fettling'

The next item fur which he dunned at!
the periodical grant of 4,0001. for nialtl
at Gibraltar. When he looked. beck

wheel a gallant Admiral. Burl St.
God) be. was mill above water !) teems:pc
work. hr found that it bad Wino earryinsc
year.. The grant had imaerriwgrair. f,
and the rapture therefor* ieverred
to—(fuer were 8 were 32,,,,feer

rern*(l...ALumgitter)--7410041.
wharf hud uut lUSit J

loted that it mitermitaiii?•ll‘.6..rilit Aums:.
**it was like wig st, With Ahem

at 44%1

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r. But unless he
y, known only to
of treasure for the Air
-haps, indeed, the
was laying op for i
•
! laughter./—The
lint in it. would
30—(4 lough
rear had • stock.
mew nothing. they
It superannuation,
hey were 'ening on
• .• f
reel of slate. We .%.4
egh)—all wolkiug
i/
fogy. and so on.—
situations and in.
stand years.—(A
from his gallant
Cockburn). ma
iin to give an an-
stinguilhed credit
!I' it was a prudent zt
rd—whether it was
ltry sum saved by
Wiling. the Ailrob.
rird the H,..inuaro ►
iintuples the masa
my there appeased !,-1
tweets tisserica and
sissegtieuce tit their
er-.4ury !se should
•Ctit hr staked. was
DC t lie vormluracp
ihabitsois of Neva
ig than they were ?
ned atteutinu, was
If making a -heel
bark a. the tune
t. Viuceut (thank
reconsintodrilithat
carrying on tut 1$
lar on for Oust time.
wd mu+ I d etteoeut
times 1 and 3 he
and. es yet the
alum water .►
e. He tees afraid •
gee hilettenee told
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his onlieee. *hien sad grown tote left every jOiti,
atilt' 'fever arrived at its whole growth at.laste,-•
ilihrStlfer.)—lt did not appear very clear
‘to him
that this did not snmewhalresemble a job. Now he
had mule an opporitsun speech, he would eutleavrsur
la say sninethi I sg onliWillfser side of the question.—
The Hon. Baronet was very expert at these sub-
jects,. and he was OA to Ott taro of Ilia calibre eis-
looted in Mori.' Tit?, were 10,411110 t. visored for
is petite" of convicts in Sheerness Doeisliird. which
was snistethiug distinct from the I.:proses of brains
'ma stocks. lie suppissed this expense was treces.
s.ry. It way unporsilde to comprise ewer). oorseco-
.r 'it the rfilintostes ; bet he irk sure. 1i.,.
Sjustst.trollrr was eorscril. ist ecouonii.t of the pnt).
lit u ttttt ty. The tesesiiries fu* the House Well merely
the emg)loynseot ..I..rwirwts instead- of houtut la-
Wl:rives. Wireu hewer them the other day. &mu
c,ore a tlssala.llag :0,111664re till llut
cmt uertiutto rogegeti ;)tievr nautical persons were
grotleruen with a a beelli.strow restl Picsde each—
Ottughieri—asul to put on convicts instead of
oral. It sounded mighty well to give the prefer-
cove. for-the saiie of economy. to those worihy
gentry, alto had finfeited their lives. - liberty,
Wild character for the brut fit of their courory
;recount of the niisclitef they tool done.—
Hist the effect would be, if pursued to ouy
farther extent, that the honest oleo engaged
would become anxious to turn convicts into rise
bArgaitt.---(Langloier.)—They had already been
as,ssing %hat they could do to cause a petition to
he forwarded to the Admiralty, to implore their
I.nrrlships to put them on the same footing us the
convicts. But it was to no purpose. He might
past as well ask to lie appoiirted a maid of honour.
—( binghter.)—The fact was, he wished to put a
cotillion to the Hon. the Comptroller of the Navy.
Ali immense suns was incurred yearly by preparing
ornilenliartee, hulk., and other such establish-
ments. hut if there could be on more profitable

use made of the labour of convicts, they might all
• well be sent to Bottom House Bay in the
'Vest li.dies." Then these Convicts were treated
deliel3Cy, ►catcrly could one of them move
o•at on a dull day. but Mr. Cap. Per was after them.
• For God's sake. Sir ! duu't stir out, there'll a cloud
over the sr a."—(Laughler).—No g.iitleinste could
hire hie health and conienietiee more seclulouvly
watched. He begged pardon for wasting the time
ov the
Sir M. W. IoinLEY said a few words.
Sir B. Man Tim wished to shone his gallant
etiend that the wharf at Gibraltar would very
boon make its appearance above water. With re-
spect to the convicts employed st Sheerness. it was
found that this occupation of their minds served to
.leter them float their usual wicked puromits, end
.great good effects had been produced by it. In-
stead of waitiag up, as they were accuatorned to do
before, and practising all the iniquity in their
I,,,wer when they returned on board, they imme-
diately turned in, and nothing of the old tunses and
di-turfman.s were now heard among them after
bight. In the mesa time they were allowed three-
pence a day, which ran up and formed a Pam suf.
b :lent st the end of their servitude. to secure them
shelter, and enable them to reset to some homiest
course of life.

Mr. Hums would not detain the Home long.—
He cuulilikuilielp remarking. that on an average
et the lamas's* ears, there did not appear to be
any saving at all is the estimates; or if there were
any, as the Hun. Baronet .had stated, he (Mr.
Hume) di I nut know where it could be found.—
He would content himself with chewing that it was
sot to be roved stnnug the half-pay superennos-
tons and salsifies. 1/vitinless there were excesses
an die two latter cias.; but the increase of
.15,000/. 011 the tiro. was rather more thou filial
t., it. By no calculation could the saving be •
portended to exceed two thousand pounds.—
Another demarlment, which seemed to him este*.
. sore. was, die expei.se of building, re-building.
and repairing. Lars year this charge amounted tb
I ;144,000/i and odd pounds. This year the cheep
was 1,145,000/. so that there was no saving ow this
•iosisch. Another branch to which he objected was,
the expense of the Navy Pary.office. By the re-
ports on the table it appeared thus the expense of
Atilt office was iss.great. now, 'when the stipend/tore

lot the Navy was ii,006;0001. as in those years tabell
the eependitore exceeded 42.000,0110/. The seeing
sou this head was almost .uothiug; further mimic-
tum might have been reasonably expected ; a few
clerks u$ 601. or 701. 1 year had been discharged,
♦,ut the Report of this Commissioners sr Newel In-
quiry proatd-thet much more trouble had been
IWall to find oat if outs ur two petty clerkships
cuuld he spared, then had been laid oat on all the
higher brooches of the department. The Report
or the muse Commissioners recommended awl the
comber of Nara Consmisaioners showld-suol be
kept up, which recommendation hid *sly hero
owed op by discharging the Demsay. Cotyptrol-
Still however there erre one Comptroller,
Care Surveyor.. end be was not sate that three
t:osinousosioniere had net been added. If so, their
isalarics west have overrun the redaction effected by
diocharging the Deputy Comptroller. It would be
a question for the House. whether they would
allow the revel expenses for managing the accounts
for 13,000 seamen, as wire before allowed for

1417000? This was not consistent with his views
eel economy. There was out department to which
die bad called the attention of she Hiram before.
De bed moved ume months ago for accounts of
she expenses for building and repairing shipe foe
W. Majesty's navy. incurred during the years
1!117, 1818. 1819, dual al.ri during 1792, 179:1. 1794.
These probers Itafl ouly been pill upon the table
lesterday, sit 1 ilivit hail been uu time In examine
them. ft appeared, however. that the expenses for
the phut Judi passed lied been very great. fir
begged particular atteutioa to one fact. The
Allard to which he had 'Boded stated, that the
Wild unionist of sill the ships in all the navies of the
world am about 169 mil. The tiamber of British
dap* •Aoat was :44. In 1819 there were 601 soil.
4,f which S 4 were not included among 6th rater.
This year there Irene 68 sail of the same kind : so
that thesh:ps of war maser iiiii g were 534. it sissy three
times as large a. aii the other miles in the world.
Out of 51. e he admitted that 112 only were it sea.
The etpanser of building arid repairs were roar.
mous, arid withis 100,000 f. oat of 1,100,0091. of the
sae sleet, Me had predicted oa a forayer occasion.
The mid etipeuditsre is. 1791 war 415.0•01.—is
1793, 381,8i0/. ; which was lammed by debt in

1793 to 190,000/. Dui what were these to At cx-
penilitute of the last four )rasa ? The number of
ships hail been reducer!. some of them lied beau
too much shattered after the long coutismance
of the war to be worth kerimig or rriseiritsg.
New ships had been paid sill within the beet four
yeais, cumpseril with fluor Ito which he had before
referred. lu 1792 liPrt. were 111) ohm. ; its 1800,
14134 ',hips; in 1019. 1.001; in 1817. 747 ; 6.1819,
4190; in 1810, 594. The expesiseti wrse for 1817,
1,199 ten!, liar budding. 11-building, Anil repair.
ing its the Kiog's Yard.. mild 'hoar of tlw India
Uotiopany art Bombay. The tome exteenses for
rsig, were 1,(230,9901.; for 11119, 1,145,4301 ;
fur 1820, 1,142 500/. litsnit the whole, there
app.-errd a rrtducru.o of 3,000 f. Ile vv•ii ow judge
of the number of 61110 urce..ary ; bar the Report
'er the Comisiisviimert informed the Honer, that
•oltli.olgli they did slot ill-rtetttl to judge whist finer
was precisely necessary, they submitted that not
ships alone,- not warlike stores, could secure the
c..untry ; but finance+ recruited. and resources nu-
proved by ecosiamy during price. Ile ausicipsted
reduction., • which he hoped to see made, of 500
to 600,800/. in repairs and budding. Ile woe
Mare, that nut of the number damn, which he had
mentioned, those of the line at present employed.
were no mute thao 164. There was another ilea
to which lie would call attentiou. the rnormoni ,
expense of buildings mid alterations its dock-
yard,. He thought that to ia itein • was too reel,
even compared with the otWl- large ones contishred
in the evtimoie. This expense ass for the year
I Reo, 451.9001., which atom was over and above the
eapeuses of ship-building and repairs. He did
tot think it wise to continue the expenditure on itio
prevelit prate.
A Meinher, whose name we cookd not learn,
spoke in favour of the estimates.

Ssr B 'MARTIN revlittl to the observations of the
Hon. Gent. opposite, (Me. Home). The reduction
of ships iu (fit' last foot years had been I 1 broken
op, and 550 sold. The Govern: newt had in fact
been too hasty in reducing the number. The
quertion was not what wes to be considered merely
I. an effective force fur preterit circumstance..
A sufficielit number ought to be, and were kept
in readiness to go to •ea at the shortest notice, in
case of exigency, and all of them ',towed care marl •
expel ve to prevent the effects of decoy. -Hr re-
minded ,the Honourable 31ember, that the three
years which he had chosen to 'Arm, 1792,
1793, and 1794, were preceded by five years,
in which the most extraordinary exertions had
been made to put the navy in • condition of
strength. The people io the dock!prds worked
three or fame hour. out of each twenty-four, in
addition to their usual day's labour. The expenses
of thew greet and costly preparations were paid by
issues of miry bills, which were afterwards funded.
The pikes of materials were doodle Jurist; the
period which the Hon. Member hod chose., fur hie
last average, conspored with those of she 1494. The •
price of oak timber, which w as ti eo 390.
Per foot, was now ye.; hemp. which war 451. Per
ton. was now 471. lit 1791 a debt had been created
of 3,000,964/. Iu 1818 the debt was only 364,000/.
Latterly every thing bad been referred first of all to
Parliament, and the repeaters were confined strictly
to the grants of that House. He justified therudeo-
yours which had been made to ecooomise, and by
which 68 clerks, lied been reduced to the Navy
Office.and 68 in the Navy Pay-Office. lu keep-
ing op the number of Naval Commissioners, the
Board had acted in cossfansity with the opiaion of
the Commissioners of Naval Revision.
Mr. Hoot explaisied.
Sir F. OnsiAnx Re spoke in favour of the esti-
mate..
Sir I. Covets wished to make a Ministerial
speech on the occasion. He did ant think tort tea'
affairs of the navy could be messaged better. ale
.4lset more economy could possibly be iutroduced
*About injuring the service.
Mr. To SPIV eV hoped that the opposition speech
of the Baronet opposite (Sir J. Yorke). would
fawn more effect Boa the opposition speeches which
Jure spoke., from his side of the House.--He hoped
alio that the Baronet would afivitellect to his speech •
by giving sit oppwatiou vote.—(Lareghter.)—lle
mentioned it to the Hoununable Admiral, becruee
he recollected something shoot ea opposition speech
which the gallant Admiral had made before no a
similar occasion, but when he gut oat in the lobby
he forgot himself and voted contrary to late speech.
lie (Mr. Tierney) for once, would make a miniete-
rial speech. He had had a Petition put lute his hand
about a month ego of a moat interesting nature. It
came from two women of a family once highly re-
spectable in Cornwall. Their father lied served the
office of Sheliti. He hail ohm Children. Six of
Them served in the 'wry, and one in the army. The
tie who were in the navy. died is the service of the
country. The father died iinnsedissa7;a4pr of
broken heart. Soon after the you. *au who was
in the army. end belonged to the Aotillery, died
at Gibraltar. He hpd latterly bees+ their only
stay. , The father bad expended all that he could
'pore in educating his sons fur the service. and the
daughters were in cousequeoce left without any
provision. An application was made to the
Duke of York, who behaved to them in the
most generous way. but suggested, that as six
of the brothers had died in the navy, the moat
proper application would be to the Admiralty.
They applied accordingly, and the sourer (which
JO . Tiertrey real. intimated that Lord•Melrslle
had read the letter, and regretted that he conld
afford no relief. He (Ads. I'.) regretted that the
Noble Lord ahoald have been betrayed, as he must
have been, into sacb en answer. Thy Petition Wes
then put into his (Mr. T's.) hoods. He *optioned
if the statemeuts were true in all respects, and
found that they tad been shi continued, before the
Duke of York had considered them. He thought
it best, hoarser. to sheer the Petitiort. hebiee
be brought it up, to the Richt Honourable Gen-
tle-alma opposite. who. with guest litinuinuv.
undertook to procure the Horn Wire a pension troin
the Civil Let. They ware not iu the remotest
degree ccimected with loin, but their tope had
struck him a. one of great hardship and miefeetoor.
He had been told of the difficultly of providing for
sisters, and of the considerable esteut to whites the
proiriaion anus be applied to recoil:torsos the skiers
of so many Olken, who had hero slain iu thy
service. He could not help thinking that the claim
fur such provision Vase. great its assay iostincen lot
sisters es fir *rives. How wetly men educated

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all their sous for the service, on the sap.
positiou that one of Owen at least would sue.
ereil and secure provision fur their sister.,
who-e tat/cation end u.rinta wete neglected up
stinted to accomplish that object ? And when, by
getterskcalempity. all the sum so *attests/a emoted.
what a condition was that for respeet.itile women to
fall Wu. their pineal' (wing oleo that it was
bee that he bad succeeded. tlsTrott"th llw ho.
mine inffuenre of the Right Hooottratae ("le-
murs, nit behalf the Lathes ist question,. Rut
how few persona were in It COW/Homy to tlb tilt.?
It was said that of all sisters of .officers were to be
itrovitled (or, it would lead to* very gteSt expense.
All he contended for was. that there alwnld be
a hind disposable fist such purpootee--that it
should he strictly watched sod examined, owl its
Iseitrtits shoot() only be applied in caws which
strongly rrsprirNt it. Brothers were frequently
c.illed Lu take upoo themselves the charge of the
family when bereaved of their fathers. He pot ►t to
the I-6'l%e whearer some food ought not to be
placed at the tliiposist of the Arlintrolty, to
alleviate the misery of such cars Is, time whirl,
her detailed.' fie hoped this proposition would
be con:ea:ea by the Right Honourable Gentle-
"l" opposite. lle would, if the isessnee were
I ghi forward. undertake to rho every thing in
his power tu defend Ministers firms shy clamour
Of obloq•ty which Might be urged against them on
charge of profosi tttt in respect to any expense
they might think fit to demos.' among the e►ti-
mtive. fat the furtherance of that object.
The Cu•ncet.t.on of the EXCHEQUER frtt
as the Right Honourable Gentleman
114 slate with moped so the particular care
which hard been mentioned, and which had been
recompensed by the immediate bounty of the
Crown. At the sante time lie could not concur in
the :propriety of estsblishiag any fund upon the
'Principle which bsti been proposed. Relief fur
eases of peculiar adversisy would always be most
readily rot-Wished by the homily of the Croon. belt
►t would be dangerous to open the door to sn Lug►e
a body or new claiinants. as the measure proposed
must la:1111111y call together. Botts its the navy
and leerily there was a en ttttt iiseratitm fund, out of
chicle allowances were mod. some es high as SOL
a year. lie would not sliew oo lattle-respect ritt the
recommendation of economy Which Sad been made
.to the House by the Committee ,of Finsurr. is, to
establish a fresh branch of regular expenditure.
The mafiosi was then pot that . - .

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I,9lo.rsmet. or 1 W. should he granted M Ms Majesty as
part of the estimates for the services of the year.
Sir M. W. MOLES.' proposer', as atioemetsrlanent,
a sum lees by .t,OOO/. which was negatived, sad the
original motion carried.
Sir Giro. WA ERE?. DER neat proposed
1,591,001. should be Krauteil for looldisig,
.relbstihrusc
sod iewairs of ships of war, and other estimates.
Mr. flume found fault with the establishments
of the te;inspurreervice. There /11:111 011 e at raft*.
111.11111 4771. II year, another st Cowes. (iP4WWitt)
3Gsf. ulthnugh the only service douse was the cod.
revolter atter) regimen's twice ina year. across to
and room the Me of Wight. Ile thouglit the sta.
floury accotauts for the several officer extravagant.
lie wished to know in what mousier it was supplied ;
if the term stationery included pens, ink. sod
paper ? or if either of !hove items was to be roused
under amtheriteint, as wise the old practice?
Sir G. WARRENDER sold, the supply of ships'
books mud victualling books. *rue included soder
the head of stationery, nur.l antottuted to something
considersble compered with the total sum chorged.
Sir PIANNAtiiNgy that on account of the
.state of the wiud, it iniglet be
.very desirable, to
, prevent how of time and bran expense, elms large
Aryls of trausports wear collected, there should
be an air.l at Cower as well as at thh*t
olloitotk
Illoam thought Air agent at Poiismosth
might do all the Isumiese, as there was not five days
iss the year that the comniunication was oat open
with the isle of Wight.
Sir GEORGE WARRSNDER said, tite-las, arieing
from demurrage would 1111.1 V thou counterbalance
stay saving that could arise Irmo redact.% the esta-
blishment at Cowes:
• Mir J. SIDNEY Vans!: w;olcil to be informed if
Sir Whet t Seppings's all.iwance was finally fixed—
ilsofwess. if he touched the cash ? Hr recollected
,ohoervation wee made when It was =cottoned in
the Noose some time ago, whirls hr did tent tbiuk
very liberal. it was, that the Gentleman had only
done his defy, whew, at the very time. Me. Harri-
son, one of the Secretaries of the Treasory. lied re-
ceived over and above his pension, a sum of 5,0004
in reels.
Sir Ilv•et Mails bore testimony to the vales-
ble services of So• Robert Seppings, by which soil-
Wise of the puhltc money would be saved, and
he thoaglit the settlement of the allowance had been
fors long
A Member, whose same we could not learn,
eiviseurvisd in the view which the Comptroller of the
Navy took of the valuable services of Sir Robert
Seppings.
Sir Gseaar Coc.iisumo No, that the allowance
of Sir Robert Sewing* wail now iiettjed. and as it
was moderators+, to bet muse agarealsle to that meri-
torious individual, a provi was, with the cosieur-
mime or the Right Hun. the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, *titled on his family.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said u few
worsts, which, from the noise. in the gallery, were
inaudible.
The Report was then brought up.
On the Order of the. 4)4g,fot Vet .11411M110r3lisd-
ing of the
IRISH COVEur ortimicaitrais
Sir JOHN tlirwoolitt'their, amu ea ten-
tion of the House to this Ball, winch Ito theteight 9f
very great importance, as tee was ootWfied
vise gullies mil/used by the stole en the • •
there were three g as levied by the eineeellea
the Courts to a latch this Bill related.

The Bill woo then committed fur Fritl67' hest%
Sir JOHN NEWPORT um* protwettilti to woke
some finale, iiti.eilmilfins, *hes; r
Mr. C. Gititter rose w deprecate tiny further
aionsesion till the Bill libootd brio the eritettlittee.
Sir Joint Niitrrolm stud be loud (kitty intended.
I,y Ow "Iliquelliiimix which he had 'nude, to awaken
the attention of the [louse to the subject, OS u was
thot a cutnnion eterpuley topic.
The Irish Exchequer Chninber Bill vral.llolll the
third time cud paired. u, •
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR Or the El.

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