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had struck his ear, which appeared to him to
sound rather improperly as proceeding from *web a
meeting as that. The passage which abated that
the Members of the present House of Commons :
were illegally chosen, seemed to Wm particularly !
batik to objection. For although they might thinks
mid he agreed with them in opinion, that the pre.
sent elate of the representation was not what it was
intended by theoConstittition to he, yet as the
..kistvolsera Were chnien according to the forms of
she law of the country. every man must allow that
they were legally chosen; but, upon the whole,
Inasmuch as it wmg to the root of all the evils
ehich afflict the counCry, he thought the amend-
',rent hid the advantage over the original Address;
osot although the Members were legally elected,
• • t lie agreed that the House or Commons was on-
itautiotiolly composed, because it did not fully
• :.d burly represent the people—and he would
hallenge spy man, however attached to the present
system, he would even challenge the gentleman
.s ho advocated green bagsee-(Gereral
mu deny this, or to say that et was not an evil which
required a remedy. Would any man say that if
rye people hail been fairly represented, as he wished
to see them, and sa he hoped to see them before he
died—would any man say that the country would
r.ow have been burdened with 11w millions of debt
ai.d the load of taxation that now oppressed it, and
which impoverished the tradespeople, and reduced
the labouring part of the population to beggary
add starvation ? IVotil4l any man say that this
would have 'tern the case if the people had been
fait ly represented ? Cooki ally man say Reform was
nut necessary. when, if be went into a company, he
would hear every person join in opinion that it was
so, except indeed those who received money nut of
the taxes ?—( ilpplowse.)—litit the opinions of
those persons he should never ask ; they were not
oompetent to decide. If they were summoned on a
:ury to decide on ibis question. they might be fairly
.•Inallengerlorod would be rejected as unqualified. He
wfrilld not ask them—but he would put it to every
honest, unbiassed, unbought, unpaid man in the
country, end lie was sure Ow), would all agree in opi-
nion that it was absolutely necessary. Therefore they
would not be doling their duty to themselves and to
those who came after them. unless they manfully
owl plainly stated to his Majesty their full sense
and opinion of the true state of things. He should
therefore agree to the amendment, if a few alters-
hulls which he should propose were made in it.
First of all, with reference to the passage to which
tie had before alluded, he proposed to leave nut the
word illegal/y. and let it stand unconstitutionally
In another part it was stated, that •• a great pot
of the members of the House of Commons were
nomiostred in violation of the law, by Peers of the
Upper House:"—now, he would recommend to
Leave oat that, beeanse it did nut heroine a meet-
mg like that to assume fact Du assertion of
whit would violate thou rules and protesta.
vi Inch were annually made by the House
0* Commons against all such proceeditigs, and
whereby any such interfrreoce of Peers in the
election of nit-tubers, was declared to be a breach
of privilege, which it would be competent to any 1
inchoido4l to loitig regularly sunder the notice of
risel-lonse. Again, it was said that certain " mo-
lied !wen fu/seie applied in the name of his
Majesty ;" but they hail no documents befute them
to spew that it was not by his comient and with his
approbation—and, therefore, they cutlet tint take
upon themselves to declare the assertion that it was
se, to he false. There were s few other verbal
amendments which the Hon. Gentleman proceeded
to soggest, and concluded with saying. that if the
r:eeting preferred the original Address, he would
,sot say that he should iito agree to it, but for his
own pint lie much preferred the arneedinent.-
-(.4pplause.)
Mr. Bean again rose, and said. he was more
coovinced than before, by what had fallen from the
!Ids. Gentlemen who heel just sat down, that the
I re Address was the more proper one.—(Ao, no.)
—As an honest Representative, be thought it loos
fluty to endeavour to prevent them from adoptiog
aa Address. sonde passages of which appeared to
to ottiotillt to neither more nor leas than tees-
-( Loud find general cries of .` Ay, no.")
ti,! could only judge front bus impression of what
lw flail heard, for he had nut seen any copy of the
A'idreas. lo his opinion, it would be Itigailv im.
proper to introdoc- the subject of Poi Ismurntaty
Reform rah, the Address to the King ; for, in the
of-gensition ow a single word about Parliamentary
11.4oriti lied been meirlioned. Whet' tlw county
sine forward oil public occasions, he wished them
111 Yet an example which ought be followed by the
isLnie couldry. In the outset they 1,10011 1111011 a
stro24 ground ; bat when they departed bean that,
they touched on subject• on which mite country was
mach divided.—(:lu, no. no.)—lle di/aught that
loi musty plans alley would inert cumbers to Op[lo.lC
l' it ?mammary Reform, but lie felt 'assured that
hardly one would he folio I to support the present
.th::esters. Ildsides, Reform was a vital guedtion,
which could well stand by itself ;why not. there-
fore, call a 'netting foe the purpose' of considering:
that aloor ?—(Applonse.)—Wlty should n subject
u( such vast. sties sisal amportance be made thread-
bare by moriug it up with other topics uu all ucca.
soma ?—(Appluuse
Mr. S. C. WHITBREAD said, he sue indoced to

obtrude hituaell (spun the stientums uf -the nurting
Mt ?resent by the little diffetence of u;Uniesi which
bid *amen sno the two A dila:mole whseit hail been pro•
posed to them. Fvr la s own part. he *I ght the
Addrevi proposed by Mr. Moore did not go far
enoughl—t Loud upplaNst.)..—At she salve tune he
felt biupelf 'Julius! suet .tt. that if Mr. Mills', Ad.

were to stolid an it hod brew reed by. hint, lie
could Oa DO WIXOM It contwut to till adoption. But
lir thought every difficulty might be xasth• over.
irOitir, and ever) übiretionalrle pa•onge removed. by
apt ,g C • ul• Co-1116111CH. ah.•ut he
would ovine. to retire for the port o-ir al ern/nursing
and turtaihog 11.—(Appiunse. with some apres-
iloits of dtment froth :dr. Altus )—fir thought
three were onalty thing' in it prroutintly Wien.
woe to the King. nu) those he could uever
agree to. Far. though he did tint concur in the
dot:tripe of the Bunton of London, " that the King
meld dq, Ito ortnig." is a moral puitiou, fur he
cauceivrd that to be neither more uor sol-
ute. that " ■ King could not atria (LA ;" 'et lie
folly recognimd st as a highly oacfsti pulntcal maxim,
useaatug Wet Ile was not pcuospitiy accooutal,le fur
acts deue iu Ins puhlic capacity u Kiag, the mina-

sibility of which gaped en'irgly with the..
who wore his r4paistsiosiol.odeisers.. if Mr.
would leave sot the parts of his Address is whirling
alloded. he Mosta readily *roe to it. He thosight
that the questiou of a change of Ministers necessarily
involved that of Parliamentary Reform ; and for
his own part, if any set of men whatever should
succeed the present Ministers who should attempt
to proceed without • change of system, he should
feel hiinself bound to oppose them as much as he
did the present Ministern.—(Applese)--He
thought the net:cosily of Reform was not at all
doubted by any of the gentlemen who heard him ;
but the scene lately eshtbited in the prorogation or
Paitoooros, so highly insulting to the feelings of
tlw (Octobers and of the (votary, bad, he was coo-
vieced. made many converts to the cause of Re-
form, tVell within the walls of the House. The lion.
Member then entered into an enumeration of a va-
riety of the evils which the conduct or the present
Ministers had entailed on the country ; and con-
cluded with observing, that as he hid now proved
the question of Parliamentary Reform to be essen-
tially connected with the subject of the Requisi-
tion, he would not detain them longer, lest, by pro-
tracting their proceeding until daylight had left
them, they should incur the reproach so justly the
due of Musisters, of working in the &ilk.—
(Laughter and great applause.)—lle then read a
list Of gentlemen whom he proposed to form a Coup
mitiee to impure the Address.
Mr. MILLS, in reply, was willing to consent
either to Mr. flume's amendments. ur the proposi-
tion of Mr. Whitbread, in order to make it pilot-
able to the meeting. He wished to defend himself
from the imputation of the Member for Sliddleeent
(Mr. Byng). So far was he from using tremolos.-
üble expressions, that he defied any one to point
out in Ins Address Hey one passage which was per-
sonally disrespectful to the. Monarch. Ile never
would suffer any person iii Isis prisehce to say that
rreprciing his conduct which was substantially false,
without contiaslicting the assertion.
Sheriff IVAITIIIIAN culled the speaker to order.
He hopcd that the assembly, utter ugreeing so
well us to the main object, would nut stiffer tritlnmg
discords to divide them. He would rather at ally
time see a le-s important measure carried ousel-
mously, than witness ray division on the details of
a great and interesting question, like that which
had cotivoked them. lle trusted, at slily rate, that
order would be preserved, and that the discussion
would not descend into personal scurrility.
Mr. MILLI begged pardon if he had uffended ;
but the word treeson want to a mains suul—
(Loughter)—stid was enough .to make him warm.
He was ready to assent to culler of the ameedments.
Mr. P. AIOORE wilt willing to ecerile to the
amendment of Mr. %%indorse'. He had the *aloe
object in slew that the assembly were pursuing,
namely, to endeavour to save all that had lint brew
lost by the miscreancy of the Ministers. lie was
contrid that his Address should be put aside, and
that of Mr. Mills adopted. Ile was as anxious as
any man for Parliamentary Reform ; lie aloe),
had been so, because lie was convinced that these
was no safety for the nation without it. With re-
spect to his Address, he rather hoped that it would
be incorporated with the amendment. It was a
bill of indictment molest Ministers, charging the
grossest crimes of misrule. When they should
conic to see it in print, they would then say,
" Thank God, there is not a word of it left out !"
On a recent occasion the Home of Commons had
been treated, as was very well said •t the time,
like a pack of hounds.--(Applanse.)....Witlitnit a
Reborn oh' the Parliament, the country would be
better without any Parliament at all.
Mr. Sheriff WAITIIII•N then said, in putting
the question that the Committee should withdraw
tit prepare the Address, he had only one obsess**
to make; his own convenience was nothing, fur he
was only discharging his duty in attending un the
meeting ; but the convenience of the meeting ought
not to be lust sight of, and he hoped theretote the
Committee would consult it, by using all possible
dispetch. He then put the question, which was
agreed to.
Sir GEBABD NOEL then moved the following
Resolution :.---

3. That • datif•l and lord Address be presented to the
Queen, congratulating her Majtsty on her escape from the
Lie fool and malignant conspiracy;
• Irrlttr, carried, he read and proposed the fol-
lowing as the Address to her Majesty :

TO THE QUEEN'S SIC HT EXCELLENT MAJESTY.
Madan.
We, your Majesty's dutiful anal loyal Bulimia, the nee.
bolder, of the Comity of Middlesex, in county 11Willi( as-
sembled, beg leave to offer to your Majesty our heartfelt
COlllgrailliAlltlllS Oa your providential escape frum the late
foul and malignant ronspi rata —a conspiracy width could
only have urixinsied in a vindictive awl retts.irseless spit it
of peiserolion—which was supported by tltr gruaiwst pvv.
jury—arid which has fallen at last, and covered its projectors
and supporters with lasting infamy.
We cannot sufficiently admire the ilitmitied and intrepid
conduct of your Majcaty in the nub* slued which yen have
made against the last attempt of your enemies to degrade
the House of Brunswick.

Your Majesty trusted in the affections of • loyal and
gesevons people, and nos in vain—their *via, echoed by •
fire Press, stir Pared and confounded the persecutors of your
Majesty. Identifying your rasa. with that of as affertiourde
proukr, tbedriumpli of your Majesty has diffused joy through
every loyal breast.
If we viewed with indignation the wicked attempts of
Bipolar's to destroy the reputation of your 31sjosty, and the
ierfaneurs means which they adopted to early them into
effect, how much mine is our abhorrence of them istcrrw•d
by their subsequent residue'! Bat if !Moister' have refused
rip insert it. the Liturgy the name of their Quern, she Ws the
prayers of every pious sand ; if they have advised their Klux
to refuse • palace to his Royal Consort, she lives in the
hearts of be► people.
Allow us, Madam, In hope, that yoo will still continue
that couidesare au your subjects, and by resrminiug aursusevr
thorn, frustrate the nifosious desist.", of men, whose Om(
merit in the rye of poirer bs■ Inns the alacrity with whirls
fiery hut themselves to the late toospirticy; whil-t we, um
the •ihrr hand, ph Ago ourbrises as de 'nor our lives and
tortoises to the muses of yuur Mujrbiy, of tuna', mud of
juidier.

A fie.' reading the Addresa, lie begged leave to read
to the meeting a kilts' which hail been received by
• gentleman ii3Cll to the room. from a gentleman at
Heimver, which stated 'bat the writer was well ac-
quainted with Baran D'Otoptedii. who • rely
tcw ) ears ago was iu a at to extremr poverty, but
at Ina death had lest property to a large •raunot.
lf, said Sir Gerard Natl. this iniaertiow he comer.
it goes a great way towards proving bribery by
eariolessle.
Several voices now called fur Mr. WooLEn, who
was ou the hurting*, mud came fo►ws:4. He bad

-o„ •
'Dot, he ea* hibstledhee whitest thl ,
ru their primemilmgams:re St ream! let
would °ley it fees obeireatione. Mew whoa/
liberal principles were pieced in a very awkward
situation. Formerly it was somewhat dangerous,
become. as the worthy Magiatrate iu she Chase
might remember, the subscribers of !eye' declare.
Lions were for a lon time es inspetlesd and demi.
steering as they were now chopfatieu.--f Appiesufe.)
—New it seemed something like cowardice to
strike men who were fallen so low.—(op/rsere.)-
I'hey often heard it said.that " the King could do
no wrong"—is maxim which seemed to adroit of
various interpretations. Ministers, among other..
seemed to have discovered that it tneent that
" Government (as they celled it) could do no
wrong." He never found any one willing to
define the true awaiting of this maxim. It
was a very old one, and was intiversslly acknow-
ledged to be • good one. Indeed it scented to
be regarded by every one as so good on ac-
count of its age, that it bad better be left alone.
than too much handled. or too closely examined.
The best explanation he had ever seen of tt, was
given by a French wit, Voltaire. hr believed, also
on his return to France from this contery, was said
to have beefs asked by the King what the English,
who boasted of bring • free people. meant by say-
ing that their King could do no wrong. to which
the wit replied, " they meant that they would not
let him do any wiong."—(Applause.)—Mr. Wooler
then proceeded at much length to touch upon tl.e
principal measures of the policy of the present Mi-
nisters, whom he pronounced to be deserving of
impeachment.—( Appleese.)— lie thought a deck-
rivion to that effect ought to be made at every public
meeting, although hews. coininced of the futility of
any attempt to prefer a Bill of I nipeoelimeot aglinst
them to the House of Commons, as et present curl-
It would, indeed. resemble the sapient
decree of a sage in a rude island, which be had
read of, who, when a council was held to decide on
the best mode or destroying an unfertunate lobster.
which having strayed too far fiorn the beach, had
been takes. for some dreadful innester. proposed
to effect that object by drowning it its the sea !
(laughter. J—Mr. IVooler concluded ninidst con-
sithrattle applauees, by secogiling the A .lthes4 to
her Majesty, moved by Sur I ;WIWI' Nild, which
was then put by the Sheriff, and carried truant-

mously.
'flie Mr. Williams before mentioned, who we
were informed nu, the pariah desk Of St..lohil'o,
Hackney, and late master of the charity sehool
their, again attempted in address the meeting, but
was overpowered by the disaporobatien which his
efforts c..lled forth. Much boisterous mirth was
excited by this petrol' being regularly called on
when the guest• was put on every Resolution,
and as regularly holding up Ins hand iu token of
his single dissent.
The Committee having reignited with Mr. Mil'.
amended Address, that gentleman procectli:d to
read it as