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TIVE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 24, 18'65,

stances at present existing, the noble lord at the head
of the Government could not have adopted any other
course than he had done at this the eleventh hour. The
house had been asked to accept the bill as an instal-
ment. He objected to flic, adoption of any svch prin-
ciple. If they were to legislate on this question at all
let them do so in a spirit that would set it at rest. He
trusted the Government would, before next session, con-
sider whether the measure could not be made more
efficient. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. F. SCULLY thought the present had been a
most useless discussion ; for, while they bad been talking
about the withdrawal of the measure, and the provisions
of the bill, they might, in the 2i hours occupied with
such a discussion, have got through the committee en
the bill, and adopted its clauses.
After some observations from Sir W. Verner, Mr.
Magnire, Mr. Whiteside, and Mr. Horeman,
Mr. STAFFORD congratulated the noble lord at the
head of the Government in bringing forward the bill and
withdrawing it— (laughter)—and could only lament the
exertions that bad been made fur a measure that had
been now brought to its last gasp.
The house then resumed, the chairman reported
progress, and the order for the proceeding with the bill
in the course of the present session was withdrawn.
PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT BILL.

On the order of the day for the house going into com-
mittee on this bill
Mr. BOUVERIE proposed to postpone the bill to
12 o'clock on Thursday, as at the present hour it was
impossible to get through the committee on this mea-
sure and the Limited Liability Ball.
Mr. GLYNN and Mr. MrTeam, deprecated the course
pursued by the Government, and complained that mem-
bers had been brought down most uselessly to the house
to consider a measure that it was evident the Govern-
ment intended not to press forward.
Lord PALMERSTON was sorry that members
had been inconvenienced in coming down to the house,
but denied that the Government were to blame. It was
his intention to proceed both with this bill and the
Limited Liability Bill on Thursday, at 12 o'clock.
Mr. HASTIE trusted the noble lord would not per-
severe with the bills, believing that they were dishonest
in principle and totally at variance with the opinions of
the public.
Mr. J. G. PHILLINIORE hoped the bills would be
persevered with, as he considered the best resulti would
follow from them.
Mr. CARD WELL would support the bills, for the
purpose of having them well considered. He looked
upon their principle as well founded, but they might
require some alterations in their details.
Mr. M UNTZ objected to both measures, especially
the last, believing that they emanated from a Board of
Trade that knew nothing about trade.
Mr. HENLEY doubted whether any practical good
could be accomplished by proceeding with these bills
during the present session, because he believed that no
one would say that there was the least chance of their
passing in the present session.
Lord PALMERSTON, considering that these mea-
sures would lead to great improvement in the law, must
persevere with the bills, considering that there was
plenty of time to discuss the great principles involved in
them. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. GLADSTONE entreated the noble lord not to
persevere with these measures, on the ground that there
would not be time before the end of the session to dis-
cuss them fully.
Mr. BOUVERIE believed the country was anxious
these bills should pass, and that it was, therefore, the
duty of the house to do all they could to persevere with
these bills.
Mr. MUNTZ moved that the chairman should re-
port progress.
Mr. BROWN moved as an amendment that the chair-
man should leave the chair.
' Mr. GLYNN said there was no chance of proceeding
with these bills in the present session, as they would
doubtless be referred to a select committee. He trusted,
therefore, the noble lord would withdraw both bills.
Mr. BRIGHT said that wherever he went he was
continually asked whether these bills were likely to
pass. He believed the public were in favour of them,
and he trusted the noble lord would persevere to
press the measures forward, and if he did so he was sure
he would be backed by the country, and that the House
of Lords for the purpose of passing them would remit the
strictness of their regulations with respect to receiving
bills.

to intimidate the Legislature and frighten members who :
had taken a particular view with regard to the Sunday I
Trading Pil. ; and it was a fact that the following day
Lord Robert Grosvenor, amidst significant cheering in
the House of Commons, withdrew his bill. What oc-
curnd at Lord Robert Grosvenor's, he thought, showed
the dangerous nature of the gathering, and its being
likely to lead to a breach cf the peace. With regaid
to persons addressing crowds, he should not consider
them always as ringleaders. At Lord Robert
Grosvenor's he considered it judicious that the
police should be secreted in the houses adjoining,
80 that the people should not be attracted by
them. Superintendent Hughes had • control of
the men in the park, and he (Sir It. Mayne) considered
it highly injudicious for a superintendent to whip ladies,
or use improper language ; no rational man would make
a rush at a body of people without first asking them to
move on. It would be highly injudicious for a police-
man to reply to an impertinent observation made to him.
In his commission to Superintendent Hughes be directed
him to "act vigorously," leaving it to him how he should
act.
Mr. Chief Commissioner Wortley said that inno-
cent persons, remaining where a riot was going on, were
considered as partaking in it. The difference after the
reading of the Riot Act wa=, that alter it had been read,
and 12 remained, they were not only then rioters, but
felons.
Sir Richard Mayne endeavoured to explain that at
one part of the park, where there was rising ground, it
was impossible for the men to move the people, unless
they ran up the acclivity. If he had known as much
then as now he should have taken the same course he
had with reference to bail. He had no idea whether the
pr:soners were dukes, lords, mechanics, or the lowest

classes.
Mr. Commissioner Armstrong said, the police in-
spectors had a limited authority in taking bail, which
was given them by the police act, and confined to the
metropolis. He could understand now how it was pri-
soners were refused bail by the inspector on Sunday but
bailed by them on Monday, because then the offence
had been reduced from the serious one of rioting to one
bailable by an inspector.
Sir Richard Mayne, in reply to questions, said that
Superintendent Hughes was fined in 1812 40,-;. for en-
tering a house without a warrant. A complaint was
made against him by an officer of the Guards, for not
doing what he considered his duty during the time the
late Duke of Wellington lay in state. He was sus-
pended during the time the former case was before the
Secretary of State, but after that he way reinstated.
There is a regulation (except in special instances) that a
policeman shall be dismissed the force after being con-
victed by a megistrate. 'With reference to the bail he
gave instructions that bail should not be taken in cases
of rioting and actual disorder, and in other cases, such as
assault=, substantial bail should only he accepted. There
were four cases of injury to the police, one was slightly
cut on the bead, and the other bad his knee injured.
The second number of assaults, &c., read by Sir Richard,
in the former portion of his evidence, had reference to
the Bth of July.
Mr. Charke, Reed, police surveyor, has charge of the
cells at the different metropolitan police stations. The
cells of the basement are the original cells belonging t,
the watch-house, and not being considered proper for the
reception of prisoners were disused in general, and cells
on the ground floor had been constructed in consequence.
Everything had been done possible to give proper ven-,
tilation.
Mr. Chief-Commissioner Wortley said he thought it
desirable the eitness should look particularly to the long
cell, the floor of which was damp.
Witness said that was in consequence of the material
the floor was made of not absorbing the moisture quickly,
when the cells were cleared out.
Mr. Chief Commissioner Wortley said that when the
commissioners visited the cells yesterday at four o'clock
the cell was then damp.
Witness said trap pans were provided to the privies,
and the water was turned on from the outside ; there
were facilities for preventing these privies from becom=
ing more annoying than under ordinary circumstances.
The long cell was 18 feet long, 6 feet high, and 7 feet
deep. The others were less in length. The lower cell
was bad for ventilation, and was not often used.
Mr. Chief Genmissioner rtley--There could be no
doubt it must have been very hot on the night of the
Ist, but he and the cominissicners had no idea anything
was done purposely to make the cells uncomfortable.
Inquiries would be male of the person in charge of
them if they were kept properly cleaned, and were clean
on this occasion.
Mr. Reed said the authorities were looking out fora
new station, but could not find a site.
The Court was then adjourned till 11 o'clock to-
morrow.

THE LONDON GAZETTE.

(THIS EVENING.)

Lieutenant, vice William Charles Stewart Hamilton, pro-
meted.
Ro3s, Caithness, Sutherland, and Cromarty Regiment of
Ride Sinclair SatherEnd, Gera., to be
Ensign, vice John Gibson, resigned.
[The following appointment is substituted for that whir. h
appeared in the (.(tzetL3 of ;June 19, 1,55 : - ]
Hampshire Militia Artillery—Frederick Moffat, Gent ~
late of the European Bengal Fusiliers, to be First Lieu':, a-
nant.

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