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the Queen oat of Court. lie would prove that the said
witness was a discarded servant, who had teamed her
Majesty of -100 gold N•poieont It W.i4 jestice the
meanest subject had a right to chilli the Q wets
demanded, and it the Lords denied the delay required,
:hey would sanction it WO murder.
Mr. DEN M AN followed Mr. I3i...ugh:lm, and ail van eeil
the most forcible arguments to support of the Pelifont
II
:Weir Mr. I)emitais cuucln l d, Maher proceedings on
the Petition were postp•med to Weiliteraley.
E GREY then pustpoorel his motion respecting the
Sextet Committee till to-morroo
Tees's-oi. Jeer 17.
THU QUEEN.
Earl GREY rose, pteveriss In ',Ming his motion. for
stapler the proceeding of site Secret Committee, and ex-
presee'd a wish to ask the Noule Earl (Liverpool) whether
any thing lin.l OCClikred to Milder him to think the said
Secret Con 111 l itiee ought out to proceed to-morrow ?
The Earl of LIVERPOOL had no difficulty in answer-
ing the Noble bird's question. He had considered it a
matter of attention to the Illustrious prelim, and those
who retantimendeil delay al the bar, to allow twenty-four
to elawe ii, order that the Lords might tmasider
whether rte Petition ought to alter the proceeding of the
Home, lte was enabled to say, oil the tallest c.riiiiiitera-
tioll of their proceeding, that lie wai decidedly of opinion
the course their Ldrilshipe lied adopted of referrilig the
papers to a Secret Committee, was the proper emu se With.
with regent to the justice due to the Illu!trioits Individual
and the public interest. As lung as there was any hope
of averting the investigetion remained lie was anktent the
Co 1111 l inlet should not meet, but as (ilia hope lied torfor-
tunatelv been dissipated, thete was no coilise but the.
pi oceeiling the Home had adopted.
LAI I GREY then said—Under the ',Maid necessity
which v.:sults from the Noble E iris answer, I rise to ult'er
the motion of n kWh I gave notice t but, before I proceed
to state the reasons, which, I hope, will inilitee the Linde
to rescind their deter 11l ill ation of i electing the documents
in the Green Bag to a Secret Cult 111 l ittre, some apology is
due for sea 1511iig to Make this motiou. 'That just ire will
be violated in this course of proceeding, I think cannot
be doubted, for under what eircatitstances will her 313-
jesty the Queen stand•ia tint proceeding ? 'Fins is an ac-
ctisatiod of her Majesty the (Aileen. 11* the Chef gcs are
proved,and she is unfit to succeed to the turnouts which she
received. oil the demise Of his Alajesty, it t affect her
Life as well as her honour, and I ask whether it is possible
for your Lordships to collie to a decision upon the ac-
eriAation, withuitt suspicion of bias on your sor
If the hitherto received construction of the statute of
Edwin d 111. be true, I cannot persuade myself that the
subtle distiertMn taken by the noble and teemed Lord of
the woolsack would protect her Majesty, supposing her
guilty. Doubts at lethal sissy arias on thu gist:awn. It is
a clime against the State, and to be prosecuted like every
crime of that nature. I say, then, the acensatiou may be
brought before the. House, and your Lordships cannot, in
justice, interpose by secret Bigotry, WOlllll prejudge
the question on which your Lordships may be called to sit
in lodgment. The Queen, who cause before the House
in a way no Queen ever CitoiC befirre, begged the House
nut to deny her the opportunity of remitting the evidence
against her. He did not stand forward as the advocate
tot the Queen. Whets cleinonr arose from opposite's, to
the principles of justice, he should never yield to it ; 1,111
alien it arose from the tear of a violalioutifjuetict, it was
not to be despised. The Lords, who boasted a lung line
of gimlet'', ancestors, should take care thi y did soot lose
that Monier to which they were emitted to by a too will-
ing readiness to second the views of the Mionetris of the
Chin e.• His Majesty's Ministers had uut ouly !nought
themselves into peril, bet the honour of tile Clean
Twelve months .tier they received the arca-
rennin *soloist het Majesty. It they then thought these
Was Kruninl for at emritus', it was then duty to proceed
jetlicially. They had prepared their on la wwle ssrr, and
if they had brought the else. *ea haulm!) before
mem, the question try this time wood have larva at rest,
and the tneenvemeilee under %nicht hie comity nun re•
monied might have hens aye; 'ed. It was impussiole nut
to see that Ministers had adopted an arregtitat cowrie,
proving ist this instance, as in others, that 'hey we ie
able to guide the Vessel of State. Dowd hie .ttionicie,
with a kuuw ledge of the contents of the 0 vest flag, dr
scribed the Queen to be the grave salt -
throne of England. (Hear, hem.) It worn tieeterattues
were made by those who knew the mimeses ut the Bag,
was it a matter of wonder it' the c .re of the proceed 's%
was execrated and tiespieed by inn Country. flirM: %no tile
grounds on which lie solicited the House to rrt:rd. !SUM
perplexity mud error. The Noble Earl luded by mov-
ing, hoot the Urdtr for the Secret Cutunot(ee to inert tee
morrow be discharged..
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, lie had heard the Nook
Earl a speech with surpiise. Pie Noble hail had eitaig..l
his M.ijesty's Government with vacillating pone), mid ...-
ability to steer the vessel of State thritu,..,h puluicuh storm .
This was not the occasion for explanation, but he was pr.-
pared to have their acts during the lust gigot years tried by
Parliament and the Country. Tue nets of the home Ear..
should also he tried, and it e uuld then Appetit- whose email
sets would have laid the country prostrate. (Hem, hem )
He trusted the House would believe Al mister§ tied dime
atinost no retard titis proceeding, MO that they Ins.'
shield( from responsibility. The Noble Larl noticed all
the argumeots of Larl Grey, aud opposed the mot toe I woks,,
after considerable debate, was iieeatived.—Adjeutued.
SIND'S:MAY, 31IDIE :211.
Mr. G. Bennett. and other Members tiom the COIIIII3OIIS,
brought up the Exchequer Bills' Bill, the liarlsadoes Free Port
Bill, and others, which were read the first nine.
The Earl of DONOUGHNIORE rose, on the second reading
of the Bill, to amend the law in Ireland respecting trisit Time-
mente, wul explained the object of the Bill, which is to enabie
landlurds to get possession of premises alter tenants have abseon•
wituout incurring the expellee they were originally cable
to. The Bill was read the serxend time and COlilitilLtCti for to-
morrow.—The House adjourned.
TWItIit•DAY, JUNE 29
Lord CALEDON moved the second reading of the
Tythes Compensatien BM.
The Consolidated Fund Bill was rend a third time, and
puttied.
Exchequer Bills Bill, the Barbadoes Free Post
the Greenland Fisheay Bill, were read a iertioll
time.—Ailjourned.
FRWAY, JtINZ 30.
The Royal Assent was given by Cominiesion to the Loan Bill.
the Fuudal Debt Change Bill. the Irish Clerk of the Peace Bill.
the Irish Coesting Trade 11111, tie tri.sh Coroner's Bill, the
Dahlin Fondling /Unita Bill, the Watch and Weld Bill, and
the iitd-doll Bill. .

The Cianmisaioners were the Marquis of Winchester, the
Earl of S.larrsbiery. and vie Lord Chancellor.
'Poe Earl of lithisLYN presented a Petition from the Ship
Owners of Leith. praying that no alteration may be made in the
Omit% on T.,oher. •
Ala Tte.• .'entions from Fife, against the Malt Duty. Several
Fllean!. Bids were brought up from the Commons anti read the
first time.
The litrloCadjontned to. Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
mosarsv. Just' 26.
The House was filled with ,4einto-r. before five &clock.
l'hr Dtury Lane I hentre Dill was read a third time and
pai4ed. The li.ool,oitiCoau Bill was read a third time
nod paged.
Sir J. MACK INTOSII risked, whether the pasNige
throuAls the Mews was to ri main closed up alto.
gellstr. and whether another passage was to be mode to pre.
vent inconvenience ?

Mr. HUSKISSONI said, he apprehended the liberty to
paw, ciroueit the King's Meas was a matter of isidulgence tai'
the public, and not a right. The sullied did not cum,:
under his coenizase e.
T me t)trec N.— Lord C AS f I ER EAGII ram, and imme-
diately the profound silence seas observed in the House:
He said, that the house Isere nnw to consider that all the
elfas is neute upon the pa, t of his Majesty's Governinent and
the Advisers of the Queen hail been completely exhausted,
and that the negotiations having failed, they could Intik to
Ito other course than that le puttee; the charges against her
Majesty into a course of judicial enquiry. However painful
such a proce.ding must be, it was impoesihle, after shat
had takea place, to ,ugeest ally other mode,consistently with
justice to the tiat• , to his M .jesty, and the illustrious object
of the cherges. There had not been, he had nu hesitation
in say Me, Ilie slightest disposition upon the part of Govern-
ment to shrink trout responsibility. On the contrary, they
had proceeded upon s d Parliamentary principles, and at
the emote time that they scouted the idea of shritikine, from
responsibility, they conceived that Pal liament were not
warranted ill receiv Me charges of so grave a nature as those
which lay oil the fable eareilt Ministers appeared to have
Strong pi iina fiche evideace of a ground of enquiry. They
also were of opinion, that whatever emu c the trans:Kinn'
Might have originally shaped itself juin, a satisfactory bet-
-I:enient of the daft-rens:es ley more within tile he power of Par-
IMMO thee any where else.—(ifeer. hear I)—lnc Queen
had been kelvise.l to protest against a seer. t enquiry, stud to
demand a public itivestigation ill the catty stages of those
itausactions. She had in her mower to me resulutions of
that House renewed the appeal, and described hermit as an
Mimed Queen, who soueht a public enquiry us the most
elfectual means of viudicating I.er diameter. The House
bail, indeed, strung reason to expect that as the Queen bad
declared her reliance u, un Pe di:lntent site %%mild have con.
sidered every arraligemeot tlint might take place after such
au ackuusieedement as sabot:lncite. lit this expectation
they 'vete disapp o i n ted, disappointoictit was the
more to be regietted as iiie propos tion of the Member for
Ilramber was tae outs alternative which the House could
have adopted. The &dike Upon which Ole had send on
his occasion was unwise. But her Majests had, by
her refuml to !Wen to the wish of the House, renewed
her claim, mid it unw became Mionters, whatever might be
their opinion of that advisee, to him.. furwaha toe charges,
poi ticularle as line though, I net coulee the most ati•aimigeous
to herself. Sloe hr must sae, the List Bi wise icket this
bad es er refused to be duetted ay tue audios toy id Parlia-
ment Tue Mato• would nut require that he should state
the pas I iculars ut tile proceedings. the adoption of which
mould hr rer 1111 l hirsidett II) Government, neunet her Majtety,
but he ;bilged Memel( it stmuld be open to its • huraeter.-.-
(Wear, hear.)—lt went d be expedieut to ;vend against
baying Lao judicial proireeMogs. Intent clash. by an
opposition of view's amid setitiuseids, !) allll there-
fere lie sIIIIUI.I prop sat' to Mode Ike de isimi of the Upper
House—not to .t he iimiented tit it inellouse olCite mons was
nut adapted to decide upoti lee lit :rave and Important
subject., but bet rime the tallies House aas More judicial ill
its titbits, dint t outs enter tutu tile quest mull Willi a Kreider
ti.„ree 01 I,ru, art). 011 Filial Ail' ee'lltagla he 1•111.1(111.1 be •
prime ed to utli r a . Intim to vie Ilouse teem the eultieet of
her sl.j s s s Atientes , mitt tueatr,..l the HOUIW, lutist tithe
miter item,. dial at wink lit to eistitate proceedings upon the
mill) et. mica as 1r tar eitarave agiiiint tile Queen, that lie
should fee it iii,' dues to roans her ail jest, to vindicate her
OA a Chafollt'l.—(llvilf, (Lord Caen( renti)
111,11111 to prapeee teat t ee drhale on Ins Majesty's Atecinge
511 old ". 10."Ip d tab t rid.n se'inught. lie awn ‘late,i,
tido thr only tonne t.ini c sold be 0111a/61a litly followeo,
atter ter i 1 tine ofi ie at. „4-ciati iiii was that of enquir)•.--
Cl,' Must a Ib.o P.iiihtehriot would resume its enrient chat-
rot • 1... tn.,: Int 11.01%:erili11111—(licar, hear l)—nnil act
it; dos oci as divesit el of ell amt re yes The Noble
I,mti e, that oil thursday se'ititight be should
a distal it MA. gflHlt/dell 11111/0 I[ll • Qa.e.it's answer, if in the
iet. rain tin primeedines nett initialed My the other House,
• als'd In"11.0lied the adjourned debate upon his .Nlajesty's Mes-
as -r to friday se-insights
lIieOUGHA AI, from the bottom of his heart, im-
plored liar donee to let the voice of party tre.still tipou
51115ur.•.isunt, is (Ito inevitable course was now I hal of iu-
puii
Upoll the part. of her Majesty, and upon his ow It
pat I, 1141 Im exptess infinite satisiaction at the chatite
of )mbar which was ttow held out —( thee. s) at site ter
11111 l anon lit the unjust, unentailitutimiel, nod 'Ned pi 0-
ceeding which it had been the intention of the Green Keg
to meta itte.—(Hear, hear I) The Queen's first rceptest
lieu hems a Reines. fur no open Unpin y, and lie had now
to I ougiatniate Ili House mid the Collistry, that an in-
quiry must take ;three. Greatly as lie admired the gene-
ral etitiiinet rif the Noble Lord, he had hot formed an
adequate idea of hie ingenuity.. It seemed inn that the
'salmi)? was to lie instituted, not upon the principles of
p 11111 l c justice, not becease it rids absolutely necessary
eottleroilly. with die censtilititunal view of the subject,
ewe the te,.veit hart on Settirday last te ;nested to
ill% e r ;mutely proving her innocence.
A 1,111A1., mid erne tai lu art ) Yes ; and much mote
F 11 4:11 peas lgua she hail made a similar
11.11.1t•I, jell' 1111 1.1,4“.1 CYrs' .1111 e had bet n far a lair
1111011 Ii 11) 1.411 nut the Noble Lord cult-
sewed n futlenglii ago (Deal, liras I ) No—lle cutlet
oat pie net an meets item> of sisidiea iiiiii until justice
f 1• dish voilatett us 111 t: Xi/411110'01 tat 111 t. (iicen Beg.
1 drat, heat ! ) I lir NiMile Lois not he persuaded
on do so udns u reuse tat j 11,4 it. ,•11. 11041 a feeling of
kallnillI) or a. 1114 du it 0111 A. ( and 1:1101 of
hem ! ) 5..10 were his Lurit,iitsp'e pones as a tactician.'
The Qiierit tennis/el tiepin). Site was tearlessly prepared
to stead tar 1411 by the iiiveettgation.' The whole of
the
charges, infect, were testolved tutu •thls—the Queen had

arrived in Fugland, (Hear, bear!) Whether Ilse ad-
viee,npon which she had acted was good or bad, lie should
not now inquire, but he most solemnly assured the House,
that any circumstances that had taken place, every 1111.
mite detail with respect to the negociations had Oren
laid before her Majesty, to establish the conviction of the
necessity of inquiry, anti the Queen had looked at them
with no other feeling. She might, indeed, as the Noble
Lord said, be the first Brunswieker that ever acted in
opposition to Parliament, but it was to be recollected, that
she wss the first that ever was placed in such a situation.
Was she to truck and barter about her Itotiour? A man
could not allow his honour to be compromised, much less
could a woman permit any accomitioilatims with respect to
her's. (Hear, hear I ) The House were now b Ito
look at their state most scrupulously. They were now
offended wills the Qiieen,and they we're shortly to become
her accusers. He besought them to dismiss every feel
ing of offence. (Hear, hear, hear.) Is seemed thal the
Noble Lord was to introduce sonic legislative illviDnlre,
He thus early laid his Chilli, iii the Hanle of the Queen,
to a delay. The Queen was
to meet the inquiry, but a delay was necessary. in
consequence of the distance of the scene in which
the offences were laid. It was three weeks journey,
aad witnesses must be found. (Hear, bear ) if the
enquiry were to go on at the lime props ed, the Qu.•en
must sustain great prejudice, as the evidence ag.tinst her
could be before the public eye, while that evideisce which
would go to the establisument of Mr innueeuu e would
be at the distance of man miles. Its this sta'ement she of
coarse did nut iochade the cruse-examivati iiii of oit..esses.
and the effect produced by that. He cuircluaed with en-
treating the House to la% t heir thouzhts to those olnersamioos-,
and eongratalotias them ui the chance of an open
cavalry.
Colonel PALMRR raid, it; as was the case with regard
to the Doke of York, the country railed fur inquiry, he
would be the first to vote for it, but Sit this case the coati
try was against harlotry • and lie should adhere to his deter-
mination.
Mr. WESTERN said he insist resist the motion. and on
the ground that the House in common wills the country,
had declared that the Inquiry never could tie gone into.—
(Loud Cheers.) It bad heels admitted sisal the criminal
charge was capable sit adjustment. That was a 14141 ails
mission. At ter first, hue could they proceed? ilitherto
the 11.111111se had proeerfle.l in a compatible .romiser ; sins
how were they now placed? They were tool than
ought nut to be could nut be gone into; and 111.* t
were +-sited Its aver 110 the Motion of the Noll Laid,
tibia! was uotiuiuu less than saying that Inquiry augur so
be goue into. 'Hear, hear !) It. lie ler.tutid she ste-
dared senile of Perliameist at all, it had hem) avowe•l
that House that the Inquiry was of such a inteure that i•
could not ue, that is ought nut to be pi iieeetled ; and
yet what was il Ilia/ was DOW asked of thrust It was the
very contra ry--( Hear, hear 0 He was therefore ag..iiist
the Motion, because it would be 4iviug a ssnetiuss to that
Inquiry which all had before declared could not be pm.-
sued. He required the House son to owl itself with the
Inquiry, whis•li had been cosideoureil. The Noble Lord 1,
had dent 1111 l red his owl' proceeding, and if he wanted any
new inquiry, any novel geode of proceeding, let his lord-
ship appear with* fresh bag.—(Liteers.)—The opinion oil
termer proem/dings had alseady been expressed • and
be was against the adjournment must decidedly. He was
anxious for the. honour and character of the House, and
he therefore moved, us an amendment, that the question
he adjourned to this day six mosstlis.—(Cheers.)
Mr. S. W HI EH READ took precisely the saute view I
that bad been detailed by the Hon. Member who preceded
him; he therefore most cordially seconded the inutiois.—
(Hear).—lt seemed as if Ministers wished, by indirect
means, to get the House to sanction their own iuexplica-
Lte
Mr. TIF.RNEY observed, that the latter words of the
Address—that iyquiry would be alike derogatory to the
dignity of the crown and the interests of the people—
were the most extraordisiary words ever agreed to by a
Minister. Ho was pea reedy astonished when the noble
Lord agived to them, and he was now more astonished to
hear it contended that the obvious meannig of Ihe words
was not the real sense. At the mine time he deemed is
right to make some inquiry ioto the meaning of the woids.
He had asked whether it was meant that the charges
against the Qiseen, if received, were of a derugatoty clia•
ratter, or whether an Him. Member's (Mr. Detiman's)
observation—beware of recrimination.—.was contemplated
by those words. They had then struck him, as they did
now, to be worsts of sleep import, but the Noble Lord
could not say that his atti•til had not been drawn to
them. Thus? words, and tit defied any body to succeed
its pouting any oilier meaning upon theta thau they ob-
viously imported, he deliberately declared, precluded
Parliament fr lie adoption of any further proceedings
in the way of inquiry. (Hem.) He had given credit
to those who suppiirted thus resolution, and he sincerely
believed that they voted fur the motion thorned)°, because
they thereby isseaut to declare, that, ut their opinion,
bled' y, Snell as the :Ministers contemplated, might sieves
to he instituted. (Hear) Bid nose-11r these was nu
end to the dexterity of the Noble Lord—au effort was to
be made to get the other to embark in that busian•as where
this House bad refused to act. Ministers adopted
all courses to remove responsibility fs om themselvesi—but
might the House to pause iii this way? Ought they to
agree to change the mode of proceeding, metety as a Wal-
ter of course, because the Noble Lei d asked it? Our
Saturday the Noble Lord was asked what ha intended to
do next? An answer was not given, fur the best of all
reasons, he believed, because the Noble Los d did not know
what answer to give, and now adjournment was asked, as
motion fur Thursday se'imight was pi °nosed ; but what
that motion was to be, on one had told them' if any prison
knew. lie believed that the Noble Laid himself could
not tell thorn what the suution.was to be. but ought they
to pluceett in such niaauer?. He thought it Mould be
degrading pi °reeding to let the matter thus 1.4,1 ill.
Something should be eutered on their Jusienals. Instead
of this, they were called to recognize the propriety ol
waiting fur the Limits. Thus, as the Noble'Lead slid not
know what motion to snake, it was thought total Our Aloud
tura deserved assutoer; and as the Lotus nutted catch, (""•
them, they Wes e utity to wait week, fist the Lurds.—(Hear,
fad raughter.) 10 all tuts they Saw every ctlu, t wade 14/ pwu
relpillsollllll, j ut the paper. tiwniselse. It sm.% appeared,
had slut Mee lirouidat to support ..thar.,... but to see is teethes
a chary could be suppoilled.—(tderviv.)— It had been de-
ckled that the contemplated anode u 1 4.irocreiting ..ould nave
bloat dos' outrdgeonti to the Queen and an the roman) I and
1111 r all that had roasts', the Noble Lord hisesclieoulpletcly