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PARDONS UNDER THE GREAT SEAL BILL

51r. J. P. GRANT moved the second reading of
Pardons limier the Great Seal Bill.—The Bill was
read accordingly, stud ordered to be printed.
Mr. (;RANT also brought lip the Payment in
Hussey of Labourers' Wages Bill, which was read
a first, and ordered to be read a second time on
Friday next.
Its reply in a question from the CHAtecet.t.ott of
the Exciivranett, respecting the intention of the.
Hon. and Lessened Gentlemma (Sir J. Mackintosh)
as to his intended motion for ass Account of Ex-
penses of Batik of England Prosecutions for Forge-
ries. ■nd other particulars connected therewith—
Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH stated, it had been I.i•
intention to put it off fur ■ few (lays, owing to want
of more accorate information on the subject. He
hoped he should obtain that information very short.
ly, and it ahonld be brought before the House, as
soon as convenient, after its receipt.
MANNING expressed a hope that the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman would not permit a longer
delay than was absolutely necessary for Isis purpose.
as the effect of such delay, if continued, must hr
productise of rather unpleasant sensations iii a cer-
tain quarter, whose conduct he was nevertheless
happy to say, was not only meritorious, but wltuse
anxious wi.ll it was to challenge investigation.
The SPEAKER interposed. observing, there was
no sinestion before the Hou►e ; and
Sir J. NIACKINTOSH postmosed his motion until
Tsui obwrting, that the delay bad not been
lolunlary.
IRISH SUPPLY.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
that the l-louse should resolve itself into • Com-
mittee of Supply upon the Miscellaneous Services
fur Ireland, Is was agreed to.
Mr. PEEL said, he rose to propose to the Com.
~..tiee the Grants the Miscellaneous Services in
Ireland lie would not take up the time of the
C tee by enlarging on the subject; he would
merely move the several sums, and if any objections
*ere mile by Gentlemen he would explain the
'4rottiiils of t heel. or postpone the discussion on them,
it were so to another occasion. The
gratas were only such as were usual. That would
sup.or f. um one of the Reports of the Committee
of Finance. .1 hr sum for these services last
-tnr wa% 163,0001. 2::ti the calculations had been

without ar.y reference to a stele of war. This year
there was Atl • non of 10,0001. Reductions had
been made iu the charges fur Charitable Institutions
in Ireland. Ile greatly doubted the wisdom of form-
ing such establishments in the metropolis of that
country, tending, m be believed they did, to bring
together great qthintitiesot people, to introduce ins-
'rev, and to increase the Mom of human misery.
They creator' a false opinion that asylums and sesiet-
alter were provided on a touch larger scale than they
possibly conld he prod need, and applications infinite-
ly snore numerous than could possibly he success-
tut. It would be good policy to proceed its reduc-
ing the expeners of them gradually. In eight or nine
of them considerable redisetions had been made.
The grant fur the Board of lYtisks had been brought
down last year to something above nineteen thou-
sand pounds—and this year there was II diminution
of another thousand. .For some years en increase
of 756;. annually to the seceding ministers had
been made, and 'd was judged necessary to
cont. it. After phis, through some other de-
tails, the Right Hon. Member proceeded to move,
" That it is the opinion of this Committee, that a
slim not exceeding 39,131/. British currency, be
granted to his Majesty to defray the expense of sup-
porting the Protestant Cherie! Schools in Ireland,
fur the year ending the sth January, 1219."
The motion having been .put—
Sir JoHtr Dimeroat said, that that slim was
proposed to be grantel, u, addition to a very
large income from other sources, fa! the por-
puss of educating e. 430 children. or itself it
was obviously too large for that emotive. There
was one entitle in this charge he must allude
to; he meant the charge of 7,420!. for the salary,
diet, and other expenses of masters, ushers, house-
keepers, and the allowance to catechists. The sum
of 9201. was charged for catechists; but surely that
office might very well lie ;performed by the pa-
rochial clergy. He rejoiced that the use of these
schools was now beginning nut to be confined to one
sect, but that Room's Catholics availed themselves
of them fur the education of their children; it was
useless to attempt to ;wove that a much greater
number of children than that mentioned could he
educated on these establishments. lie was not de-
sirous, however, to obtrude his own opinions on the
Flouse ; he had thrown out thus much to procure
information on the subject, front those better
enabled to arrive at it than himself.

Sir HILL agreed with the lion Baronet, that
the Charter Schools in Ireland could be made sub-
servient to a much more extensive system of edu-
cation than they hail been. This had been the
opinion of Gentlemen conimissioned to inquire into
the national eddeatian there ; a very minute exa-
mination had bred made last year into this parti-
cular branch of it. and with such useful results,
that it was intended to be resumed next slim-
mer. Catholic children were do longer excluded
from these seminaries ; they were open to the
children of persons of all reliOous persuasion. :
that u much larger number could be erincated in
those institutions he was not only certain of, lint
most anxious for. There were thirty...six of them
in all, and, under proper management, they would
form s cheap footle or education for the lower or-
der.. The system had been so long established;
that it would not be wise to abandon it. As they
were already established in every part of Ireland,
he thought it better to take advantage of then,.
The Honourahle Baronet had complained of 7201.
being appropriated to catechists, observing, that
the duty might he done by the incumbents of the
next parislie.. Ile had to state, that that sum was
not received by the latter, but by the emirates, who
devoted their care and attention to the progress in
learning, the morals and habits of the children,
and on whose exettions depended all the benefit to
be derived from the establisinnents. lie was glad,
however, to heist the remarks of the Honourable
Baronet, because they would tend to excite the at-
tention ind diligence of the Milt Gentlemen to the
subject. ,
Sir J. NEWPORT would repeat, that to establish
thirty-six schools ior the education of -2,430 chit
dress, mid to pity 7,420/. for the vuperiutendence
of it. was out of measure extravagant.
Mr. PEEL said, candour obliged him to say that
these eataltlishenents were capable of great im-

provensents; but it ought to he recollected, that
he and his colleagues had found them established.
But education was
.neit the only benefit they cosi-
ferred; the children admitted into them were more-
over maintained and clothed. In prosperous years
their own funds amounted to 8,00(11. but latterly
there bad been s 011. lie had therefore
directed, that on additions s.4!liatever should be made
to the nuinlwiS un the establishments, however
powerful the clniins might be.
Sir J. NEWPORT explained.
Mr. GRATTAN said, he had ever been and pro-
(cubed himself an comity to the rysteni of proselytis-
ing. formerly practised iu these sellouts. Now, he
understood, that was losing ground, and more liberal
principles acted on, lie, therefore. did not Pee
any reason fur opposing the grant. lie was uncer-
tain whether any of the funds had been appropri:
and to the !appose of apprenticing boys, which lie
would approve of. It would lie wise, from time to
trine, to watch over the conduct of the persons in-
trusted with the inimagrinesit or those institutions.
Care should he taken to reduce the system of fa-
vouritism and patronage, and the salaries of the
mailers.

Mr. PARNELL thought the grant much beyond
what was required by the alleged objects of it.
Mr. PKEL surd that a sum was annually appro-
priated out of the funds of these schools, to put
out boys as apprentices.
Mr. LOCKHART was sure that any system esta-
blised oil the principle of giving to the children of
the poor not only education, but maintainance, so
far from producing or nourishing morality, would
have the contrary effect. The system of the Poor
Laws must be retraced ; the n:•cessity of individual
exertion to individual support and happiness must
he impressed on the people. holding out hopes
of relief after an opposite course of conduct, would
only increase the 111111111 of misery.
Mr. WIIHF.RFORCE would only make one re•
mark. He disapproved of the principle of sepa-
►ating children altogether from their parents, which
appea►etl to be the practice in the inotituti &&&& s now
under discussion. From the rteport of the Coin.
missioners ou National Education in this country,
it appeared that the good effect* of a moral edu-
cation on children, h. d, by allowing the intercourse

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directed Ly natty*, eitended azeif to their parents,
relations, mitl friruds.
Mr. W. Salta said that the charge foe the
edur.oion of Charter scholars amounted to 3/. per
head, m year, whereas for such an educstinti as
'Westminster afforded, it MKS only 74 g* MP j and
in thu country children were educated on the
Laticasteriatt plan at the rate of es. a bead.
Mr. PEF.t. explained.

The motion was then put and agreed to.
Mr. PEEL then moved, •• That a sum not exceed.
Majesty
32,313/. British currency, be granted to his
Majesty to defray the expeoses of the Foussdlisig
Hospital in Dublin, for the year ending
Janu-
ary. 1819.",
sea, that that Institution had
heels established to prevent infanticide ; but so
Many infants had been destroyed in being brought
up to it from distant psirts of the country, that lag
winter the Directors of it had issued an order to
prohibit them being sent up dunieg that season.
Thus, in practice. *dinning that the Institution
had produced the very,effect, to guard against which
it had had its origin. This was
.sin time to vote
away so large 'sum to support ad useless establish-
ment, when the whole einintry was criyiig out
iopoissat the pressure of the Window Tax.
Mr. Peat. said, that the time chosen by the Hon.
Member to abolish. the Foundling Hospital was,
when it contnissed within iik walls 1,100 infants, And
maintained 8,000 at onrse.—(Mr.. Parnell her:
cried oat. that he lateaded the abolition to be gra-
daal.)—lie had himself brought in a Bill to con-
fine the time of carrying up infants to the 'sunnier
months, so• that by the existing law it was iinpos-
eible isitaina could have been sent up iu wintet.—
Last year had been very nnfavoitrable for reduc-
tions its that establishment; but he coi,fewsed lie
entertained doubts as to the policy of its unginal
creation.
Mr. LOCEITAWE said it we. wrong policy to pro-
cure by compulsory charity the mean*, end those
regular and permanent, of affording alleviation to
sufferings flowing from imprudence and crime.

The - -
motion was then curried to. After which
the following motions were severally pigrecit to :
A sum not exceeding 38,145 f Britir.h col-misty, to defray
the expenses of the House of liiiiiistry, Hospitals, and Asy-
lums for the Industrious Blind in Doblio. for the year roil-
ing sth January, 1819.
A mom nut eseeethiur 7,085 f. British currency, to defray
the prohab'e tarmacs of the Richmond Lunatic Asylum,
fur the same period.
A 011111 nut ding 3,55 W. British currency, to &fray
the expenses of the Hibernian Society for the support of Sol-
diers' ChiWreu iti

A nom not exceeding 2,752/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of she Hinernian Mortise Society.
A rum not extvedinx 2,3075. British currency, to defray
the expenses of the Female Orphan House, Circular-rued,

A imm not exceeding 8,307/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of the Westmorland Lock Hospital, Dublin.
A snm not exceeding 1,1461. British Currency, to defray
the expenses of the Lying-in Hoepitel,
A sum nut exceeding 1,467/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of Madam Stephens 's Hospital, Dublin.
A sum not exceediug 4 6151. British currency, to defray
the expenses of the Fever Hospital sad House of Recovery,
Cork-street, Dublin.
A sum not exceeding 4631. British currency, to defray the
expenses of the Hospital for Ineurables.
A sum not exceediag 8,11211/. British currency, for de-
fraying the expenses of the Roman Catholic Seminary.
A sum nut exceeding .41,4301. Brutish currency, to defray
the expenses of the Association incorporated for discouraging
Vice.

A RUM not rivet-ding 1041 British rorrency, to defray the
expenses of the Green-Cost /Inspital, City sit Cork.
A sum tint exreedioir 2,3071. British curreory, to defraY
the expenses of the Cook In►titution.
A SUM out exceeding 5,5381. British rurrenry, to defray
the expellees of the Society fur pruundiug the Education of
the Poor in Ireland.

A stint nut raceetiine 9,430/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of the Dublin Society.
Oct the motion for this grant, Sir J. NEWPORT
said he would appose it ; becnuse he understood
that it had been converted into n sort of coffee.
roam, for the convenience of attending members,

iiiid also beeawie it us Alit to be supported id a great
degree by subreriptions.

Mr. PriL mill, the Minute had been made
after deducting the imbiteriptioiri, and defended at
some length the objects of the lio.titistion.
The grant sees vote if.
A stub 00l eiceeiling 4,0151. British currency, to defray
the expenses of the Funning Society.
A sum not exceeding 93301. British currency, to defray
the expenses of building churches and glebe houses in Ire-
land.

A sum not exceeding 19,2131. British currency, to the
Trustees of the Linen and Hempen Msulifartore.
A sum not exceeding 11,076/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of the Commissioners of Wide Streets.
A sum not exceeding 2761. 16s. Sit British currency. ail.
ditionsl allowance to the Chairman of the Committee of In-
land Navigation.
A sum soot exceeding 3231. British currency, for patting
the House of the Royal Irish Academy in Griftim.street,
Dublin, in repair.
A sum not t xceriling 1,153/. Ins. British currency, as re-
muneration to public officers, fur extraordinary trouble.
A sum not exceeding 16,961 f. British currency, to &first
the expenses of the Board of Works.
A iiam not eseerding 20,60 W. British currency, to defray
the expenses of printing mud stationery for the Others of
Chief and Under Secretaries in Dublin Castle, and tither
offices.

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A sum not exm.dinir 9,8921. Boit kb currency, to defray
the expense, of printing prochunationi in the Doblios
Gazette. _ _

A slim not exceeding 2.439/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of printing 2,430 copies of a quarto edition of
the statutes of 1819, to he distributed among the Ma•
gistrates, and 250 copies in folio fur other purposes.
A sum nut exceeding 22,078/. British currency, to defray
the expenses of prostetdjOlifi Wilt oilier law expenses.
A sum not exceeding 2,3011. British currency, to defray
the expenses of apprrheuding public offenders.
A sum not exceeding 8,5811. British currency, to Non-
conforming Ministers.
A som not exceeding 3,8881. British currency, for the
support of Seceding Ministers from the Synod of Ulster.
A sum not exceeding ?Set Brutish currency, to Protestant
Dissenting Ministers.
A sum slut exceeding 1,7641. British currency, fur salaries
of Officers is Lottery Offices.
A sum r.ut exceeding 0011. British currency, to the Pra-
tique and Port of Dublin.
A sum not exceeding 6,4711. British currency, for the
establishment and aiaiistenarsoc of Public Naviptions, to
the Directors of Inland Navigation.
The next grant moved was 40,0001. for the
Civil txpentliture of Ireland,—Agreed to.
In inuring that a rum not exceeding 114,6151.
be voted tier the disembodied militia of Ireland.
51r. Platt. took occasion to observe, that a great
reduction had taken place in the Consinissariat De-
partment—and that a reduction of 60,000/. had
been made in the Barrack Depertment.—Agreed to.
That .a sum out swede% 134,2491. be greeted fur the

LONDON,
VioiATUR.DAV, APRIL 18. 1818.

Last night, in the flame of Commons,. the prin-
ciple involved in Sir EGERTON BRYDGE3' Bill for
relieving the publialwra of valuable works from
the heavy expense of providing eleven collies to the
Universities and other public literary institutions,
came partially under dipcussion. Mr. LAIIIIITON
presented a 'elition oil the subject from two re-
spectable Booksellers, who stated that, under the
existing system, they had, in publishing two expen-
sive works of public interest, sustained alas.of
3701. to considering the importance of this sub-
ject, as it affects the Inter, wtm of literature, in oppo-
sition to those of the hierury bwlies, it may not tie im-
proper to obviate an erroneous impression somewhat
generally entertained, that the expense to the pub-
lisher or Providing these copies amounted to nothing
more than that of the Paper and the prest-work. In
the ruse of a limited edition, the loss is obviously the
same as if eleien persons were to enter the book-
seller's shop, and carry oft with them, unpaid, so

many Copies whirl) would he purchased by others ;
but if the eleven copies were struck off over and
above the proposed number of the editi 4444 the ex-
proses, we understand, would he the same to the
peldisher as or a fresh edition. It becomes then a
matter for Serious reflection, whether so severe tt
tax, pressing so tpierpial!y upon the publisher, will
not operate as a preventive to the publeCation of ex-
pensive works in this country, when the presses of
the Continent are open to literary exertions ; and
also whether it be consommt with justice, that a
traritismsn, contending against the burdens of the
State, the difficulties of fortune, awl the chances of
trade, shall contribute so large a share or his hard-
earned profits, or have his possible losses so severely
enhanced, Merely to save the coffers of certain
wealthy establishments The second reading of

Sir EGERTON BRYDGES' Bill was postponed, and
we are hippy to perceive that Mr. \Virtu intends,
on Monday next, to ;impose the appointment of u
Select Committee to inquire into this important
dulieet.
The Report of the ComMittee on the proposed
grants to the Royal Doke* was received. Mr.
LAMBTON moved; that the Resolution for granting
6,000/. to the Duke of CAMBRIDGE lie read a se-
cond time that day six mouths, but the motion was
negatived without a division. %%lieu the Resolu-
tion for granting a dower of U,0007. st-ythir to her
Royal Highness the Duchess of CUMBERLAND was
read, Earl GOWER, on the part of her Royal High.
tress, informed the House, that grateful as she felt
to them fur their vote in her favour, she however
had resolved respectfully to decline a grant that
seemed to imply an interest distinct from that of
her Royal Husband ; hut on its having been repre-
sented to her that the vote had been conditional,
and would not take effect except on a hontingency
which she trusted would never happen, her Royal
Highness did not hesitate to acknontedge their li-
berality by accepting it. This statement was cor-
roburated by Lord CASTLEREAGU,aIso added, that
her Royal Highness had been induced to accept
the offer of dower solely by the strict injunctions
of the Duke her husband.

The CHANcer.i.ox of the nunEtatmit gave
notice, that on Monday next he should lay before
the House his thiaticial scheme for the year. For
that purpose the discussion of the Bank Restriction
Art was postponed to Wednesday. This has been
long and anxiously looked for by the country, and,
in our mind, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
will find it difficult to justify Mundt* before the
country, for having so long suffered is best in-
terests to he sported with by stock-jobbers and
political gamblers.

IVe have received Paris Papers of Tuesday
last. They contain nothing of any importance.
Mr. WELLESLET POLE, whom, iu the usual cour-
tesy of our continental neighbours, they style Lord
WELLESLEY POLE. is mentioned as having talk
Paris for Landon ; and we are also informed that
the Baron de VINCENT, the Austrian Minister, has
had a conference with the Duke of WELLINGTON.
These, with the prices of the 5 per Cent.. which on
the 13th were at 67i f. constitute the intelligence to
be derived front these French Papers.

A Ilatabargh Mail has arrived, with Papers
to the 11th instant. The King of SWUM; hes

':.`3tuttiettetti litsietkit't•:tlt .ot act of I,l)er.ilit:,
ciliated to add. to lily papokoity. 11, ha% dry
a 'rant of 600,000 francs, ioiroolect for hign

Tate King, in favour of the public.. The Eli'
•of ItuastA opened the Diet at ll'arsaw on the
of March, with u unreels from the throne. •

in French. soil is ositl In be of his MAJESTY
comiiosition. The marrisge•of his Royal H,
the Duke of CAMBRIDGE fixed for the 10th

We have re:vived New Orleans Pews to
13th of February- The following is en exu

fl OM the .EteniNg Journal :
t, We have accounts from WAshington, from a highly
spertahle quarter, Cium whence we leant, that our Con

are undecided whether the ocewpatiop of AmpHa phial

continued or not; much will depend on the course which

mgoctation with the Spanish Minister may take there.
nothing fsvonrable results from it, the troops will be
drawn, because it is already discovered that Congress

not support the ExeCutive in the measure."

. Mr. WISE attended yesterday at the stock
Exchange, and stated, that lie had received a corn-
municaiion f the CHANCELLOR of the E:tette-
01ER, that lie will require only 3.090,000 of
money, to be funded on the plan before men-
tioned, and that the time will be lengthened
for that purpose to the tist instant, or as soon as
the amount shall be subscribed, the boas to be
shut—every Subscriber will be alloWed, in addi:
tion, to subscribe to the amount of Stock funded,
in Exchequer Bills or money, instead of to double
the amount of money subscribed. The time of
making the whole of the payments on the Ex-
chequer Bills minded is also lengthened to
November instead of August'. The whole amount
required for the service of the Year ft 1G,000,0001.

Yesterday morning the Prince of [lean Host•
bouito visited the Duke and Duchess of GLOVE:Ls.
TER, and the Princess SOPHIA of GLouctiana.
AbOut one o'clock his Serene highness left WWl' in
a carriage and four, attended by Baron O'Nibit:r
TEN, fur Claremont, on a visit to Prince LP.OPOLD:
The interview of his Serene highness with his Royal
Highness, continued about an holm. his Serene
Highness returned to town to be present at a grand
dinner given by the QUEEN, at her Palace, in ho-
nour of his marriage with the Princess Eutaaucti,
at which were present—
, The Prince Regent, the Duke and Duchess of York, the
buke and Duchess of Ghsucester, Use Duke of Clarebe
the Duke of Kent, the hiHMIS Sophia of Gloucealt r, she.
Marquis and Marchioness of Winchester, the Maiquis and
Marchioness of Hertford, the Marquis acid Marrlinwees of
t:holmondeley, Earl and Countess Misitun, the Camden
of Macclesfield, &c.
—At Dille o'clock her MAJESTY had an evening
party upon the occasion.
We are authorised to stare that the assertion of
an anonymous writer, in a letter elated from Rome,
of the 4th of October last, published in The Dublin
Evening Post and other Paper.* mar far as they
relate to Sir J. HtertsLEY, are wholly without
foundation. l'he writer asserts

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" That Sir J. IL h:ul travelled incognito, and had been
three weeks in Rome (previous to that date;, without the
knowledge of any but those whom he had consulted about
the expediency of his towing; that the writer recognised
hi:n by chance • few Java back, and has since watched his
movements i that be is shin up fur several holies every day
with Gonsalvi (the Carchinal Seerc tat, of State)."
11'itliuut making any particular ob::ervations on
the misthievono tendency of the assertions of the
writer, respecting the conduct of Sir J. 11. at
Rome, ne it is supposed to affect, injuriously, the
interests of n large body of the King's subjects, it
will be sufficient to elate, that Sir J. U. did tint
arrive in Rome till the middle of December, sod
at the time he is represented by the writer to have
armed there he had not even crossed the Alps.
The following paragraph is copied from The
Dab/in Erening Post of the 13th inst. :
MOST IMPORTANT DECISION TO THE
CATHOLICS OF IRELAND.

The KING at the Prosecution VJOHN col.E, v. the

CORPORATION OF DUBLIN.

The Court of King's Bench, this day, gave
judgment in this important case, and directed that
a Mandwatis should issue, requiring the Corpora-
tion to admit and swear in the Prosecutor as a
number, although a Roman Catholic. tVe cwt.
gratulate the country upon thin decision.
The Duke of Sussex presided on Weilliesdly at
the dinner of the Humane Institution fur the reco-
very of drowned persons: he distributed the re-
wards, one of which was to young Lord DE ROU9.
a boy of only 13 years of age, who had gallantly
saved a son of Lord Stssrreseuatr from drowning.
His Royal Highness, On account of the necessary
absence of this noble youth; said, he should liirwaid
the medal to Lord Sa•FTESBVIti-, that lie might
have the pleasure of bestowing it on the preserver
of his son. His Koyal Highness mentioned, that
he lied himself lust one of his own children by
drowning.
On Saturday last there was a numerous Meeting
of the Gentlemen and Freeholders residing iu the
neighbourhood of Epping Forest, to appose the
Bill which Government is about to bring into tli..
House, to disforest the Crown lands. Three of
the Verderers were present ; Mr. MnaTaGn Bp e-
novNE, one of them, declared himself a friend to
an enclosure, which would provide employment and
food for a superabundisut population, who were
starving for want of work, and said, he thought
Government was in duty bound not to permit
li,ooo acres remain a waste in the vicinity of the
metropolis. He declared that he thought he could
not better serve the Freeholders, who had elected
him a Verderer, than by promoting the cultivation
of this waste, and making that useful to the coin-
tnunity, which at present was an encouragement to
plunder and every species of immorality. He ex-
pressed himself convinced, that though the Free-
holders of Chigwell and the vicinity were hostile to
the measure, that of the great laxly of Freeholders
Of .the county, ig out of 20 were friendly to •
ninesure which would find employment for the
poor, and produce a considerable, quantity of fond ;
the opposition. however, was agreed ou to the Bill
and a Committee appointed.

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