The National Register.
London, England, 1819-11-28 00:00:00

authorities. As to the redress talked of, what redress could •be
obtain • by a multitude against a bench of magistrates; and
where was any etthrt making to afford redress? 'fhe proceeding
against Mr. Hunt was regarding what took place before the
meeting; for a lOU took place afterwards. where 'etre the Minsk
the it weadesirous to aim redress. The Prince Regent's Letter
of Thanks was mom injuditioum it made the ministers and ena-
gisttates parties m tile question, and all of them were interested
•in resisting immiry. Hut inquiry most conic, and to the coati-
- Mon of litany of those who now cletiaeleal the Mtneliester
oagu-
trates. Then, to unite all partite, came the dismissal of Lord
Fitswilliam—.a man In whose case the whole country sympa.
thised. That Noble Lord had been the main stay of Adminis-
-tion,and hisLorelship had preserved the tranquillity et'Vorkshire;
and the return fur such cervices was the removal of -Lord Fitz
velem. He wished to know why Mr. Ilunt had not betn
• arrested the day before the meeting, if it was thought necessary
•to arrest him at all. Precisely the game thing was done in
London, in the case of a Mr. Harrison, who was taken in
Smithfield, and though troops were not employed upon that oc-
-cation, they were in re:minims so act. He did not know why
London ahould be put in such hazard. Mr. Harrison was,
however, taken quietly ; but wiry the metiopolis should be put
in co Doom because it was judged expedient to take a man at
it o'clock en one eay, who might have been taken at 12 o'clock
the day betatm•was for the advisers of inch a proceeding to deter •
• mine. Theue.were the reasons he lout tor refusing to place reli-
ance in*. cantina of minister%, and for opposing any immediate
• measure leading to the increase of military force. The military
puwerwef the country had nut been in ore instance overcome. A
necessity for adding to them might perhaps exist; but till is full
explanation of al. these objections took place, till it was sheen
• that miniater: had properly used the means they ;swanned. lie
coull not think of augmenting the military force. He considered
that there was much apprehension in the country of an attack
upon the liberty of the subject, and that the attack was exempli-
lied in the numerous attempts to provoke the people to tumult.
The Constitution was at stake in the debate of that night (Hear,
• hears. His design was not to speak, except in general terms. of
the Manchester calamities, butlie denounced altogether the prin-
ciple of attempting to preserve the country by tuition), law, or
any other system of coercion. If such a method was adopted,
there could be no use in raising a mans lie-al in that House
upon the subject of liberty, for from that moment the people
would beat the mercy of Ministers; end that line of separation
which had been always dresuled would be drawn, the line of
separation between the higher and lower orders—(Hear, hear).
lie hoped dune in power would take warning from the Revelu.
•-tion in France. By timely and di-creet measures that Revolu-
aition might have been avoided; but nothingheing dour towards
•conciliation, the contrary was the case, anti all .oulers of society
were mixed in indiscriminate confusion. which ended general
destruction—(Hear). He did nut believe that the perilous termed
Radicals were at ail to be feared; but there was u large Impulse
-lion, which was deeply attentive to. the conduct of Unit House,
and not at all well disposed towardsiti in consequence of what it
bad done. That population it would be dangerous to irritate to
a higher degree of disguat. It' 'Ministers would show &willingness
to make the necessary enquiry, Ire should stand by thent ; but
while be was deterituned. to upheld •-the laws, he was equally
resolute in maintaining their right:—(Hear, hear). 'llie 'tight
Bon. Gentleman conciused with moving au Amendment
expressive of the regret felt by the House at the proceedings
rat Manchester, and declaring the necessity of making an en.
quiry, &c.
The Alarnnis of TAYISTOCIE seconded the Amendment.
After having made some general observations upon the, perils
with which he conceived the country to he surround...AL lie advert-
the Manchester proceedings. Ile culled tor a calm and
patientannitigation into the eiredinstanessi attending that event.
. and disidaiined all idea of any other object in view than truth and
justice, and the praqule's happiness.--t Hear, hear!) Ile was not
• disposed to quesuon Ilia motives of Ministers, as to then general
• couduct, but he could not view without surprise the ciamissal of
a Noble land who had the boldness to oppose the principles
which menus' to actuate those who dispersed the Meeting, and
who hail minim detected, and exposed the system of spies, (near,
hear,) and commanded the respect and approbation of the pub-
there were circumstances of danger ettendiutt upon-,
large public meetings he was ready to adinit, but proofs should
ire given of hie necessity sal caUtng in the military, before sac:f
an extremity was resorted to. When Nlinisters had gone so tar
as not to be able to carry on the Government without the assist-
ance of the bayonet, they had indeed much to &newer for. (Hear,
hear.) It could not but be acknowledged that there existed hnt
little sympathy between the Parliament and the people. Concilia-.
Lion was indt-pen ably nets cry; the burthens of the people
should be lightened. It die Chaimellor of the achequer crave
down to the Howie with a renewal of the Property Tax. he (the
Noble Lor)) should agree with hint upon this condition—that the
taxes upon the poor 'mould undergo a prmrortionate diminution,
that the public should no longer be insulted by large grants of the
public name, improperly mimic, and that all ocelot, places slave 1,.•
be abolished. 'then. arid not till then, would he votelor the pro.
petty tax. The breach that now existed might be yet repaired, it
the people wei e not driven to den air. A step towards Reform,
above ull things, MA/ necemery. He was not prepared to say
what specific Reform would b: advisenble, but he acts convince',
that so long as that ',Anise remained as it was, the people would
not, and ought not to 4m satisfied. • (Hear, hear.) Huns hod
roan frequently tliromi.cut against the loyalty of the people—
could airy one doubt that lumiltysatter an expensive war, doting
which they had endured taxation patiently. Ile would venture
to say, that if terms of compassion were used in tae place of the
-insulting language so which they were accuinomed, thousands.
whom trovernimin thought their enemies. and treated with
harshness, would be completely Jimmied. The NoOle Lord
concluded with again recounnending, in the strongest manner,
that an enquirreliould be entered upon ; and above all, that the
people should not be treated with derision and exintempt.
Lord I. As ruinhAtiii icis to oppose the Amendment.
lle admitted that Jh sorter were hew pl iced in ii mon in..
risk bility,.particularly as regarded I lie spume which
it was
danger to pursue. .Under the Myths, thud the public
safety would be risked by delay, they had come to u deter-
in mum iuu to lay . Utunediately before Pat liament the inter-
.ni•l upon, which it evils their intention to linguist writ-
-OW et Inn the preservation of the pun lc tranquilits
,could nut at the sane time help dean tog, lit the most en-
go:shard terms, that the coalideoce oi the people in
nient had ilimiuished. He wins runs lured thin Pas liaincot
land weird with such anxious desire so betietit the publie,,
iby proving that they were abl • arid es-solved to meet.'
difficulties at home as well its abroad, that tors doubt than
.ever existed in he score uf gene' of approiratiou.--'l'herr
was scarcely II bill Ale measure pursued hr Parliament iii
which tire publer had nut. joined, and so hermits the House
snider the coniroul of the Public. that ow Attiniaistrativa
-could exist it idiom its positive unit onequivoral Cstictiou.
There were, in bra opinisnt, no ground. for carrying the
•rititeedinent to the Ansi ofdhe Throne, nor did be ever hear
itt speech Tess qualities, to snake ism impression of the neer.-
eity of making such an nudists,. to the proposed Address.
II was, in fact, a Speech suede for the purpose of materva•
-Joins the real bituat ttttt of the country. Upon the question
of the state of the country ire should net how refer, ins he
eonceiveit it necessary to lay before toe House all the infor-
mention Government had received upon the subject, befure a
disassion should Ire entered upon. As soon as the papers
orbciell would be io readiness to-morrow) were read, he