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his servant, Ceilinglou, as to the !violence whieh the taller
had gives of what took piece in the 'servants' hall at Hof.
(teeth,. He was underotood to ray, sleet he preferred the
evidessce Mijoirlii to that of Carrington end hi. mash r.
Ilia Lordehip (scriber seated, that if every wood of the evi-
dence which rootlet tee at all seropeilnn. were struck out, ghee,.
would remain doe evideece of Voieene.. Gee geol.',
f.ahlied,lineeeppe Bianchi. I omit Slejoni, A Ireern.l.4,
Hi suss hi, Cartes rsioralti, Giuseppe G-olli,
nod Giuseppe Serchi, which ought Ise he coutradueted,
and which noels' have hero contradicted if 'hey had *poker
what wets POI trove. Wr othoulol elu bis Lordship injoisece
if we were to attempt to give • current arcomni of hi •
sp.eck, whirl' wee in great measure wholly itelioseurt helot,
the bar, and in oilier peels else seidesters wet. but very par-
tially heard, lies reessainewg observations appeerial Is lie
chiefly applied! to the elevation of Bergamo, she evident,
of Vassal', she ciectinesinneee which wore given it evict :nee
erainst the Unreel as to what pae.ed at Cahem e, al Sum, on
Warr the pellicle, and set He olefroded the pro-
ceeding by • Bilforf Pains and renaltier, sod pi melded
the Horse toeing swayed by the emesioteraeion of what might
be expected to take plaice in the Hooey of Cossisowes, oe by
Ike derail of say effete which the pros:ember might produce
coot admire. Ile defended his owe condole, oi the eimiree
of these proceedings from the isper.ious of *.resist base and
lefemous irolividials, who, Not bring able tio imeaine it
poseible for a man to peofoont a joist snot honourable act,
had attributed the most sordid motives to his Lordship. lie
bed soetwally received, in eosseropeence of those Calotniiintis
representations, a leticr from a Ilrofeiror, rtiowstlitig to be
•ppiiimirii !holy Pirysleisa to his IAIMII•ilip 11/I his voyage to
the East Indies, where he was /prowled to he shoot to be
appointed Governor-General. Hail the Physician known as
much of Isis ereneeitution as his leorst-hip binieclf, he 'weld
is. vet bas; hoped for the prolongation of his life till lie
could arrive their. After mime (nether 'marks', his Lord-
ship declared that he should, OW the must conicientious mo-
tive., vole for the Bill.
The Earl of Roseherry wished not to give a piked vole
upon the gustation. Hr remand: d the Haase of the general
objections which he had taken to the cheese's.? of Bills of
Pales and Penalties, reeerving to himself Ilse privilege of
determiniug after the evideure, whether or lint the tie emit-
'tamed; proved would justify the Bull which had been hr get
forward. His conviction had been, thst if the preamble of
the Bill were capable of beisig clearly proweil, the offence
would ane snot 10 a public wrong; set I if a pahlic wrong,
then it was au impeachable off,eice. He lied, however, glee. I--
mined, if the charge.. should be proved, to support the
'Boll. But such • mass of contradictory evidence It eel
bees exhibited, such a member of the witeerwees fur the Bill
bid iocurred suspicion, iooleed such nialisferot proofs bud
b 'eh given to suborn witnesses to commit peel's.). (,lid lee stud
it without intruding so inoinieste soy Wine to the discredit of
hi. Alajesty'e Government), i list be coedit not say his mewl was
by any me.aus sat ished as to she general pruorsuf the preamble.
When, superadJed to this, their Lordelsipe hail seen that one
material erasures hail been irregularly witledrasn, aud that
another material wiser-ea keel silt Leone allowed to leave
Germany ON behalf of the Qoecu, lh ouch from the
same Iplafitr s witness bad toren compelled to appear
against her Majesty, kr was still more oirengthened
ise his hostility to the Bill. It had beret said that
Ibis was a ism of expediency. If so. in prupiortion
as the wraith of the evidence became seduced, the ex.
iiedieney also meat be dienosiolied. The evidrare strewed to
leave been drawu from suspicions woofers. He would not go
into any detail of the partierters to phew this more clearly,
hut he be hewed the caiedour of the Noble Earl would lee-
duce him to allow that the general character of the evidence
wee rut such as the House could confide acid He die/ nut
wish, any Inure dean the Noble Esti on the ero.s.bench, fur
the Mimic to be goverued by the mere dread of whet would
be thought of their proceedings seat of doors ; hest it was
slot the rabble timely to whom they stand opposed, all the
better and iiiinkeue classes were oppodied to the polisher of
the Bill. He could sot shirk with She Noble Earl that it
would he improper for them to consider what would be the
probable fate of die Bill in the Lower Noose, where he
hoisted that the Bill would be thrown out if it should go
down from their Lordships.
Lord Reileodale rose sod said—The Noble Lord who hail
just sat dowel bad staled the gaieties is a matinee to which
he could sot moseut. Cuouidl, ring the evidence which had
been heard at their Lordshipr' bar, lee could not hesitate to
say, that the proof ise this case was full and complete. He
had examined the evidenre in this mese muse particularly;
having read it over mot over from beginning to cud, lee was
brought to this conclosion, that the proof was as full, and
clear, nod perfect, as sorer was or Cllohl he had in any case
where there was a conlrariely of evidence. In cases of eon.
Bieliog testimony, he had been taught by his professional
experiereee to sake those facts which were wiedispuied, and
by the evidence as lo them to judge of the rest of the eve.
deice. This rule be heel Irsroud to the outset of his prof:s-
sioual career; this role be had found, in his experience in a
judicial capacity is another country, ill be founded in was.
dome and justice; this tale be had been laughs by the wild
and extravagaut habits of • coutetry, where • disposition
prevailed to swear ore diary to the truth ; mid his experience
had taught him, that while wit/telexes held tee certain (*CIA,
however they might wary or differ from each other in messy
particulars as let these facts, their evidence might be relied
on. tVith ',gold to the fact. MI board tier polscre, they were
facts of "ohm!' their !wardship. cooed have no floosie; lee.
cause they were peeved by w imesses who had been called to
disprove them. When lie hound facts deposed to by wit.
nesse§ its sopport of the Bill, confirm. d tsy the witnesses
against the Bill, was be to be held that they were tie be dia.
belie...col, because in some few Wagoners three maths be an
apparent cobiradietion to three testimony ? it hail been
said shut the evidence of Nlajocchi anal Deimos' shouid be
altogether rejected—but he would any, that for his owe
part, lie I, heard their testimony to be mainly t.
Becalm in some poem of their evidence there might be
some little incomistesecy, was he tea be told that lie must
comely reject their evicts:wee ? It would be 111011, unjust—
Hr would not reject _the whole of the evidence of Flynn;
becarse, although in some parts it may have been false, yet
in others it heel been borne out by the Wellman), of other
witueeoes. He email not reject the evidesse• of a witnesa,
when he had been teorete out in facie by other testimony,
merely because he had slalcl some things which were' scut
altogether (aloe, but were not exactly true. Their Lord-
Phil's must consider that Majuirchi had bees meantime.' by
interpretation, through the medium of a person, who, it
must be evoked to their Lorelshipo, eras not itiorimehly se-
go:tinted with the English language, sad was •leo nut
cusiversane with the specie', of patois dialect spukeu
that pact of Italy fount wheeler 31ajocchi
MOIVIIIIMM, the testimony of the sitters' was nut to
be altogether rejected as false, because some things
which were incerieeistent might appear on the minute'
whit le might have been incorrectly 'toted down by the aloof-
hanit.we it. r ; fir, if their Lurdeleeps would altesitively ewe-
none the minutes, they moot he' aware that many tidbits
were incorreetly gives., and (mold not have been delivered as
'toted down. Majocchi lied both cross examined as to •
.e.•-•:" -*than he was supposed to Imre lied with a pereou
nine wjeele he seated r: ' tee occurred ise a par•
tieeelar hes slahquut true or three 1111 • •
not Irue, (7arnera 'niche have lame milled to disprove his co..
deuce. He would say diet lee emosidered all the mote of the
evidence so which he bad alluded, bad full claim to credit,
soil he would) accurdisegly give it. With respect to the ere- I, Don John, by the grace afGoil, mat. knows, k liner
pre. gra Is, that the great need simnel services which Iles M.
deuce of Deentied, it had been attempted to Invalidate it, by
assertions eel incorrect conduct HY her part. Rut lie would of Campo Slejor, Marshal Givens' asd C.oassemodar.its-(1.•
beg tie huger, whet wontill be the state of we inland if all per- of my army of Portage', has dims me, Mows bees cue.
smite when might be in twine degree light of %cheviots'', or dened w"ithl! of my royal 'eeheds hod Iteekatif to Klee bin
a lice cutolueird thens.elves in may respect differrailly fonts new public testimony .of t•te particular esteems in which
elle received nut of propriety in other particular., were hold it., cod •1114 of !he hunour sad allitfilaiwce whirls be ii‘,
Ito he rejert.el am witutsem ? The evioteoce of moss of the 1 have ""141 him to the e•thieut pm* of alatalla-Gelitr.ale
p. *wins by "ilium we were merrousided moot then Ise rejected al"( bed let my Pee•otto 1 delellittlhes as eg••••Pots••• ti•
is every case. He' rout,' bay, fleet she evickotee of Deolusia piste ruder Air istralialit gailharity all the military corps
sleuth! he tried-by itself, and if it were found lie be consist- of the three hervireh aid ell the objects which Wool I•
rut, or if on leading points it retrained rootlike*, it was the di•eil'lntee "1•11°•••°, hod reenlitimi of Ike army, the
folly tuba dto credit. lu the ease of the bath scene it state of the garrisons, sad any fadiffestissa le let for
was clear, from the erideuee tin booth sides, that there was • the difeuee of the Kim**. Ptammtal mat •
both. Aril if their Lorilships looked at-the evidente of the royal arsenals of the • :Is the fhooddeoli...theipialie
of Delmont, and of Majoechi, could they hue, any liter, work,,, the authorities ash civil haiie. St the
doubt that tee Vial& atteuilent was presentetathe necaeonit, army, the allefarY co'hlrt
_Odd esti Ilatili‘lf—Mallit Ir
bat that Origami did attend. The sooty discrepasey was, the ex-rotioo of the eelful•thwee 111• I• mod
that alajorclii said it was is the cabin; soil it bail bees militarylawhas detersnhittedi or 1111117 0111"1111/",
pentad that she Afyon cows elf ws Ravel Hidkesss was regaidiug all sr any of she slaws Ss-
Me emelt ho Admit lt. • Bat he thought if obey looked at the oedistelY to or all him Ohm .e sf what..
evidence, that the capacity of the cabin had but little effect ever Itht•res last ay'adios 11 b"-my e• 7•1 well
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no the eagle. Majoedii apAce of a cabin ir wl,:ela I.e war fie
bed. the Coutsters 01. h.• calms there hr.l ("I t sofa.,
hut one we. afterwards talon ow clerk, and it t looked
at Majwcehi'e testimony be t:mtuelst 11..1 wont.! find that wax
the "abut it, which he alluded. Dot it it were m
room that the !milling Wok place,•lol way diffemp,
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clearer "—that it was an n,d lirare, an indecent trairsarts....
and it appi•ared that Written' was lite only intender's: no
INT• 11011. No female •tteudeel—ewillwr the (*.mules* tieit
nor lirourile—the only female was De t, and sre• ase
net in allemteweit until she was grail fur, after the ba:l- 4
was over. Tirol ulnae was, in his naiad, soffierent 14.
Nish proof of vault; fur what woman Willi had not ...ICI-.
tiered her virtue to a man would have admitted lion to tar
present oo steels an occasion Flaying thus far etagere.
impretaitrrt rm his mind, he must say, that every pail rif
virulence of Majorelti and Ihnteut that was consistent to
rte. If, and was not contrail tied by other testinsooy, must
he received. thr the part of the defecate, plans "t real*
weer, had hems taken mid produced—the plan. of all the
other places mentioned might also have been pup lutt.i.
There .null have Ina n ito fear of any cross-examisu,sa,
(mottled tin them. If no evidence were addmcrei
dirt ion, moot he not believe the testimony of Maj./ran awl
Densaut ? 0,, what grouods shoold be dmbeiteee lie
moot judge of the evidence in this ease as in all *theta.
The rules of evidence we.e the same is this ea.. as any
other. Flaying heard the rriefeste at this hoe, and the ob.
see...dittos that had been made on it from base to time :t
*rut nu, he could not but say, that it was fully mottled t•
et edit, and that it afforded ample proof in ...;•
pni.t 4.f the allegntions of the preamble to the Si!!.—
He did not are how al could be said that Bina of Pains cud
Penalises tv. re ameonititutioual, whet, the Conititution,
it regarded the succession to the Crown, depended tie such .
mearure. The Hill of Exclusion. for perveittnic the acre..
aims of the Duke of Yolk to the Throat', came three tone.
under the consideration of the House of Cononous Itedro.e
it was paused by them. Who were the persons who suppu.•
ed that measure? Were they unerroilitottuital men
the perionts who forwarded the proceedings in DM, uncut
stiles 1111 l al men? High of Pains and Penalties were a1t0...
lulely neces.ary wpm, some uceauwns, 1001 then it was sm.,'
they 'sewer ought to be re siert. d to bat opus oceasium.t
great Slate someemity. Bet 1,1111 the three Bells passed
•4aiiist the Smith &'a Directors of that description
A!-
though they were measures of expediency, he 'where., that
no perimi conceived they were of great Stale serenity
still leis mould the proceeding against the officers of the
Charitable Corporatism he considered to come under that
description; easy. neeetly a measure had her. carried tn•
dep•asitag persons of the tight of doling is the cloche.. 4.:*
lilonthers of parliament, on the croon.' of the Irllrl 11 111 11111
of the majority of the elertiag body. But its noose of thus
proc.l drug,. could be see that great and commanding neer,-
oily witch was said to he the only jusliticatiow for such 4
proceediug. But be would ark what were all Divorce Bill..
%Verr ihr) nut all precisely similar to the Freon* peareedints,
it thy party proceeded 'against happened to tie possessed id.
any tank, diguity, or pre.. minenee ley marriage t lln
these gement'', therefore, Ire Goma ou r. aeon lu .deject lo
the measure under the conaideration of the House. What
were the proceedings in cases of divorce? 'llse power o f
the Eceleriasiocal Court only weal so far as separatio• from
lied and board, but did not dissolve the marriage. The I.
giilattire prumetirel ,o 110 That as a eeparale pruteedint. a.
something soperadded to the sentence of the Ecclesiastical
Court, the pruertdoigs of whirl, were owls oseil as evs•least
of the set of adultety. But was there here tau Same neer,.
si?y ' What would have hero the consequence if is. p•o.
sent or suite similar measure had riot been adopted? lire
Majesty would leave had • rigid, and there an. 011 doubt
she would have claimed all the state and throaty of a Uttees.•
Among... other things, the right to bold a Court ; anti would
it, he asked, have bees. such a Court as the Nobility-mts
perwn• of the highest rack aid must exalted character to
the country cosel4 have resorted tut Was the cermisiouy
usual at the commencement of a new rigs—he twain the

ceremony of the Cornioatioa, owe in which her Majesty
could have participated? He coofemed it did seem to
him that their Lordships were boom!, considering it as
office, to say if her Majesty had soot SO soMcoaducted her-
self as to forfeit all right to it. Then it wan said the pro-
ceeding ought to have berg by impeachment: tins that
House had riot the power to origosate ass impeachment; the
only way, thereloro, in which that House conld proceed war
by Hill. He knew that in the time of James the First there
wan an example of that Hoare originating proceerliao:r
against the nosempulers, but slant was she list austaare of Ihr
House exercisiNg the power. If it were proposed to try this
as a misdemeanor' mud • Hill were presented to the Grand
Jury, where could they lay the ? The offence being
committed abroad, it was not triable as a nowderoranov by
the ordinary law of the armory. Their Lordships were 3
Court of Judicature, awl governed by the same rules es
every usher Cosset of Judicature: His Lordship refrned oro
the proceedings sorest thie4everell, in minimum 44444 o.f
whit lie had stated, mad *sod, that, as is this cue, their
could have been no indictment, sad their Lordships
could out proceed to try any paratioa Moot could not be she
subject oleo indistment ; the wily merle left was the present
pisceediut by Bill, which be wmenlered as pre to any
other mode of proceeding. And here he would ash if there
was any unfair is that way of proceeding, on the cosi-
trary, had not the accused very great advantages from it!
Is iinprachnieuts fur high treason, the greeting a list of the
*lionises was not half the adenosine compared to what
war derived from the present mode. Hese the whole !Vl-
deuce bed brea produced, and after ihrt • period of time
had here granted; which was capable of being employed to
much greater microwave than any kuowledge whatever
of the names of the witnesses ashy It might be em-
ployed sod was employed in Audis' out something against
the character or conduct of the witnesses, so that fur the
last three weeks she whole of the witnesses lad hero
upon their trial. The recalling of witnesses also for the
purpose of cram-examileation, was not that a peat advaioi
Cage ? On those.gruitods he considered, that there was so
reams whatever to complain of she measure as unfair to-
wards the accused. They were told the measure was mis-
chievous, as manhole/ing food
that it might rot be passed b
nerd to the iiisceeleat, of which

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ud to the public diameter; aoil
lby the other House. With re.
which they haft beard so eaticll/4
it to any thief like the safest
lay is the way of hearing
is the other side; but as for
judging, there was slot that
waa stated; bat if it really
weasibent ous thei► Lordships Su
led of the necessity of the Ines-
slitioW send it down to the other
erre to art as they thought pro•
I, the public world he sellihf-
.ot which had deserved boat
used the Bill, or those who
is opinions um the solfect, .
?Win of the Bill.
Huss. adjourned till toortersit
ERESFORD.