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or still the voice of conscience. Does he think that men
of common sense can endure—does he think that this Eng-
lish Parliament would have accepted, and that this Chris-
tian people would have endorsed, a bill drawn upon human
life on fraudulent pretences ? Some may think that war
is wholly unnecessary; but those who hold that war is
necessary, and that no honourable peace could be obtained
upon the bases proposed, have a right to call upon the
country to make every sacrifice of its blood and treasure.
Well, then, can any excuse of Cabinet compromises justify
the reasoning of the statesman who was sent forth to
negotiate a peace, but who feeds the flames of war with the
very olive branches which he hasbrought back? (Cheers.)
I say this more in sorrow than in anger. Bat is this the
noble lord who well, in some respects, deserved thosecheers
which greeted him when he sat down? Is it you, thenoble
lord whose labours and whose genius have so honoured
your name so that we feel every stain upon it as a national
calamity ? Is it you who have taken from the people of
England power and dignity for twenty years—who holding
office as a Minister of the Crown, call upon your coun-
trymen to send their children to a slaughter which you
deem unnecessary, and advise yoar Sovereign to jeopardise
her sceptre rather than endanger that feeble and ragged
thing called a Government—(Great cheering)—and which
the noble lord told us last Friday week we
to be the more tender of because it had lost the favour
ht
of the people? Why, sir, the noble lord said that the
executive was weakened by popular distrust ; and I tell
the noble viscount and the Government that the weak-
ness and the distrust both arise from that belief in
your insincerity and vacillating purpose, of which on
Thursday last the most signal proof was the appearance of
the noble lord upon that bench (the ministerial). The noble
100 l complained that our councils were unstable. Why,
sir, how could they help being unstable when the noble lord
represented in the cabinet the very element of instability
in his own person ? The noble lord rebuked the people for
their distrust of public men, while, in the same breath, he
told them on Friday week he held office upon a question
that involved his duty to the public service. The noble
lord then said, " See the circumstances of the time, Will
you make two abstract bases—one of peace and one of war?"
No, sir ; I say that the circumstances of the time require
either peace in earnest or war in earnest. And I say you
cannot have peace in earnest if our negotiator accept terms.
and shrink from the responsibility of ad -
upon one day,
inions
hering to his op on the next. With what face ca n
the Government appeal to the ardour of the people
long as the noble lord remained in office to paralyse, I )3,
his acknowledged sentiments, the war which he has sac .0-
tioned by his official vote? But the noble lord said, "':r
am misrepresented ; it is not because I thought this per see
safe, honourable, or expedient, on the Ist of May, wb LOU
I brought those proposals back from Vienna—it is not 'el 5.
cause I still think that at that time peace might be sa In,
honourable, or expedient, that I am bound to think so
now." Now, I believe that that is the argument of the
noble lord, and then, said the noble lord on Friday w n ,k,
in a tone so languid that it might have dishearten ed
Achilles, that he believed the only chance of peace We is in
a vigorous prosecution of the war. Does not the nsl ole
lord, in effect, say, that though the expression of his o p in-
ions here may disqualify him from being a member .o: r a
peace administration, yet that it did not in the she :,est
degree affect his position as a Minister of the Govern n eat
pledged to the carrying on of the war? If, however, the
noble lord tells us that the object of the war could la ave
been attained in May, it is in vain that he appeals to the
military ardour of the people of July. What progress wo u ld a
recruiting serjeant make through the country when he, ad-
dreseed the people with some such longuage
as t'his—
Come and fight, my boys, for your Queen and con a try.
Think of Alma and Balakiava. Never was there a l,e tter
cause for your support. Think of this glorious resu lt—
that if Russia shall hereafter be at liberty to send ()fight
ships of war to the Black Sea, England shall have thei pri-
vilege of sending four." (Laughter.) Now, I saye that
when a minister so recently as May had approved )f the
principle of the Austrian peace propositions, he is not a
fit minister to carry on the war in July. What n 1743 the
reasons which rendered in the noble lord's mind peace
honourable and expedient in May, which are not ecenally
good in favour of such a peace in July? Sir, I depri :cote
this sliding scale of homicide, which is attracted by every
fluctuation in the market of life. (Hear, hear.) Bu t, as
I understood the noble lord, he said that in the pex ition
in which England and France was, he did not thin k he
would be acting prudently in resigning. Now, that
is the reason why I think that the noble lord -could
not remain in office with advantage to that unity of c aun-
cil which was so necessary in the direction of the war.
The noble lord's continuance in office had, in fact, en-
dangered the alliance, by placing our councils at variance
with those of France. The Emperor of the French lead re-
jected his Minister for the expression of theesame opinions,
while the noble lord still retained his office. That Sove-
reign said that he held Austria imperatively bound ;in her
engagement to share in hostilities ; but the noble lord some
days ago said he considered that Austria might be expensed
from her fulfilment of the engagement. So long as the noble
lord remained in the Cabinet he might be looked upon as
the 'Minister upon whom Russia founds her excuse, Austria
her justification, France her dissension, and England her
condemnation, in respect to the war. I understood the
noble viscount on Thursday last to say that the Govern-
ment were prepared to stand or fall together. The principle
that said that one Minister of the Cabinet does not stand
alone—that all were equally worthy of praise or censure
—applied with still greater force to the present
case; because the house will remember that when those
negotiations were under discussion on a former evening
the noble viscount expressed his cordial approval of the
conduct and ability of our negotiator. The noble viscount
still further identified himself with the opinions of his
noble colleague, by taking upon himself the responsibility
of declining to accept the resignation of the noble lord.
The house, and the country too, will recollect that the
noble viscount had treated this vital difference upon a
question of peace and war with as much lightness as a
• disagreement upon the details of a petty beer bill. Now,
I will take the liberty of telling the noble viscount that
there are two parties in this house who have some reason
to think that the aspect of sincerity does not bear a
prominent place as respects the part he took in these
transactions. The house will remember that immediately
upon the formation of this Cabinet the noble viscount gave
a pledge, in answer to a question from the right hon.
baronet the member or Carlisle, that lee would adhere
to the foreign policy of Lord Aberdeen. Well, those who
consider that that policy wanted the requisite vigour have
a right to complain that he had given a pledge contrary to
the expectations of those who assisted in raising him to his
present-elevated position. On the other hand, those dis-
tinguished adherents of Lord Aberdeen's Government have
some right to complain that the noble viscount had given
a pledge rather too lightly, when they see him reject terms
which his own envoy,. who left the Aberdeen government
from the want of vigour in the administration of the War
Department, had not only assented to, but promised to
support in the Cabinet with all his power. Sir, I have
looked 'carefully through this correspondence now before
us, and I confess my astonishment is increased that
the noble lord did not resign his office as Minister of
the Crown within a week after his return with his pro-,
positions from Vienna. This correspondence, also, I feel,
justifies my continued distrust in the Government in
consenting to act with the noble lord in the councils of
the Crown. Those papers show also that during the lat-
ter period of the negotiations at Vienna the noble lord
was at direct variance with the noble earl our Minister for
Foreign Affairs ; and that the noble lord had agreed to a
peace founded on a basis which the noble earl the Minister
for Foreign Affairs had declared to be inadmissible, im-
practicable, and dishonourable. (Hear, hear.) To the very
first suggestion of the noble lord—which was called an
Austrian proposal, but which, in fact, emanated from our
English envoy—Lord Clarendon writes word, on the 18th
April :—" We think that the limitation of the Russian
fleet should be absolute, and that it would be made too
conditional by the plan which you propose. We must avoid
as much as possible the system of counterpoise, the objec-
tions to which you have explained fully to the Austrian
Government." Well, then, what does the noble lord do ?
Why, the noble lord matures that plan that was considered
so objectionable,and bases it upon the principle of a counter-
poise. He does not return from Vienna until he has pro-
mised the Austrian minister to introduce this proposal to
his cabinet when he returns to London. The noble viscount
who succeeded Lord Aberdeen in the government, on the
express ground that all dissension upon the question of
peace or war should cease, deems that dissension in the ca-
binet of no consequence so long as it is concealed ; and
when it is found out he declares that the concealment of
the opinion of the noble lord is highly becoming the con-
-duct and the elevated position of his noble friend. (Hear.)
Now, I am quite willing to accord the Government all
the praise which they are entitled to claim. lam willing
to say, so far as Lord Clarendon is concerned, that there
is a frank, hearty, and English tone in all his despatches.
Lord Clarendon, however, represents himself alone ; but
the noble viscount, as Chief Minister, represents the en-
tire cabinet. If the noble viscount is acting in concert
with Lord Clarendon I ask how can he express his cordial
approval of the conduct of his negotiator ? This fact ap-
pears to me to be marvellously suspicions. No one can
doubt that the noble viscount must have been sufficiently
anxious for the success of those negotiations to have
sought for a letter from the noble lord while those nego-
tiations were pending at Vienna. Now, in the whole of
the correspondence before us, I do not see a single letter
from the noble viscount. (Hear.) Of course I may be told
that the noble earl the Secretary for Foreign Affairs was
the proper person with whom the noble lord should corres-
pond. But I will tell the noble viscount that I think that
he would be acting more fairly to the country, and more
justly to himself, if he did not so rigidly adhere to this war
military routine, and had written some letters for the pur-
pose of relieving or confirming the perplexed consciences of
his noble friends. (Cheers.) Now, throughout all these
complicated transactions, I will venture to say, that not'
one man in the country has ever suspected the sincerity of
Lord Clarendon—while I am afraid that there are some
persons ill-natured enough to suspect that of the noble vis-
count. '(Hear.) By the exhibition of a little more candour,
the noble vie/eel-v-1i would heve gone far to justify himself
and to 5tr,,0ge,,,,,,, Los Snoverument. But here is a still
more important faCt. The Earl of Westmoreland commu-
nicates to the English Government the last Austrian pro-
taw, which was received in London on tho 19th of May.
Now Lord, Clarendon almost invariably answers communi-
cations on the following day they are received by him. It,
however, appears that the noble earl does not answer this
communication untillo das afterwards, namely, the 29th
of May. Whatoccurred in the interval ? Why from the
,
hesitating tote of the English Government, and more espe-
cially of the noble viscount, my right hon. friend the mem-
ber for Buckinghamshire(Mr. Disraeli) was induced to
bring forwards motion upon the ambiguity of their lan-
guage and the uncertainty of their conduct. During those
10 days minietera were deliberating upon those proposals in
their cabinet. -We, too, were discussing the resolutions of
my right hon. friend in Parliament. And. Lord Clarendon
was instructed not to reply to Count Baas propositions
until you (the Government) had ascertained the sense of the
House of Commons. The judgment of the house being
taken, it left the Government no optionbut to continue the
war. With these facts before us I think it is a fair in-
ference that the noble lord (Russell) does not stand alone in
his opinions in the Government, and that Lord Clarendon
is not the spokesman for the entire Cabinet. (Hear.) It
was not until the temper of the House of Commons com-
pelled you to renounce that ambiguity of Language
and un-
certainty of conduct that those Austrian proposals were
rejected. Now the noble lord has misunderstood something
I said upon a former occasion, in regard to the Austrian
alliance. On that occasion I made a distinction between
the alliance of Austria and the friendship of Austria. I
• said that I was desirous of the friendship of Austria, but
that I did not care for her alliance. At this moment I
would really rather be without it. In the first instance, I
believe that such an alliance would necessarily produce a
schism between England and Franco. Even now, Austria,
as a mediator, makes a proposal of pose°, which France
rejects and ,which makes you hesitate —the mere enter-
taining the thought of which almost broke up the Govern-
ment. Now, surpose the same thing to occur again when
Austria was on:. 10, with power to
'
raise vuke3 in the
general °Tamils of the unitedth7
c,l
that France accepts this Austrian natior.i.s.4
proposal. —appose that
the English people would not allow the British Govern-
ment to accept them. You would, under such circum-
stances, fulfil the prediction of the hon. member for the
west riding of Tor hire. (Mr. Cobdtu). - You would stand
.

wawa eeseeeeeddlam"' e,,,,,,wsesabootameemeweeeeeseeew - -
aggle, with the loss of the friendship of ' tion conveyed in the second. I did not accept the resigns- meration of friends, still the other friend-I do not mean 1
alon e in the str
,nce, and with exhausted finances. I think tion of my noble friend, and on Thursday night I told him the candid friend, nor the Mend who is not bad-natured /
ive course we could pursue, and the one that the question had assumed a form so peculieilv perso— has his place also. And for this kind of friend, I sty, coal- i
Athnesti TinoastanedffeFcr,
most conduci' le to the future tranquillity of Europe, would nal to himself that I could not meddle with it, and it was , mend me to the Vice-President of the Board of Trade. I
be if -we cote 4 convince the world that England and France for himself alone to decide whether he would persist in his (Laughter and cheers.) Sir; I have deemed it necessary to '
united -in ar ma are quite sufficient to prevent the aggression intention ; but at the same time I said that if, upon fur- make these remarks in consequence of the assertion of the
of RUB 'lna. But if you lay down the doctrine that these ther reflection, he thought it would be bettor to stay in the noble viscount that he was reedy to do battle in the cause
powers err ; not sufficient without the aid of Austria and Government, then I was prepared to face the motion of the lof
wenriendship, on the motion of my hon. friend, only that
all the oo mbined states of Europe against Russia, then I hon. baronet with the Government as they stood, and that
say that, your success, however glorious, would not tend I should stand up and defend his conduct on the part of ;great contest taken place? (Hear.) Here is a Minister,
to werelo en the temporal power of Bemis. She would the Government. (Cheers.) There was therefore no sacrifice lor rather ono who has been a Minister-a man who has
still say to the world at large, and to future ages, " I in the case. (Cheers and laughter.) My noble friend did longoccupiedthe attention of his fellow-countrymen-aman
think I have shown that England and France united are that which he considered consistent with his own views who for a quarter of a century has exercised the greatest
unable ' to compete with me in arms ;it required the com- and feelings. (Cheers and laughter.) Anti as for the re- influence over public affairs in this country than any man
bin ed I ,owers of all Europe to retrain my ambition within preach levelled against me for not accepting my noble in that period ever possessed-a man who, with the brief
cert in bounds. Such a combination cannot, however friend's resignation in the first instance I should have interval of Sir Re Peel's Government, was really or virtu-
occer a gain -, it was but momentary, but my ambition is thought it unworthy of him, as well as of me, if I did so ally the Chief Minister of the Crown in this country dur-
eter ne: 1. ' (Hear, hear.) I would simply repeat what I under these circumstances. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The ;ins this period-a man who has taken a most prominent
said on a former occasion. I value the friendship of Aus- hon. baronet wishes-and not very unnaturally-to place ' part in the questions involving the country in that war in
tria. , I would even be indulgent to her weakness. I every member of the Government on the stool of exemina- which we are now engaged-a man who was the manager
wog ad. not entrap her into an engagement. I would not tion, and to subject them to all sorts of questions which of our foreign relations shortly before or at the very mo-
tak 0 a single step to bring about an alliance with her, un- his ingenuity could devise - (laughter)-to ask what eat when we entered into the discussions which led to this
less I felt that she could embark in it with a hearty sense was their opinion of the policy oi, the war? To inquire war-an iudividnalwho a f©w months before the war Woke
of her own interests. If, however, you desire to have whether it was better to go to the Sea of Azoff at the out in which we find ourselves now involved, with its con-
Au stria neither your ally nor your friend, surely you commencement of the war, or when the expedition took comitant dangers and disasters, by a single speech in this
cot ltd not have taken a better course to effect that object place • to ascertain what was their idea about going to house broke up the Government of which he was a member
Ow oi to allow a member of the Cabinet to promise her his Balakia,va ; and so on. (Laughter.) But I beg leave to -a man who, though he then incurred popular odium and
au p port [of her indefinite proposal for peace; and to re- tell the hon. baronet, in the name of my colleagues, and on public distrust, but a few days after was by her Majesty, in
in a: ow nevertheless, in office, and to advise his Sove- the part of the entire Government, that there is no division the exercise of her prerogative, offered the post of Chief Mi- •
re te en to reject such proposal with disdain. (Hear, hear.) in the Cabinet-(cheers)-and that one and all, the mem- nister of the Crown, whine offer he onlydeciined because he
031 e thing, however, is clear ; we cannot have war while hers of the Cabinet, are animated by the same determine- was not able to form a Cabinet at the moment which would
'am ;h negotiations are going on-we cannot allow the great tion to carry on the war with all the vigour which the re- actunderhisauspicee-a.manwho,notwithetteutlio,g hiscom-
' na .me of England to be frittered away by such a vacil- sources of the country shall supply, until we have accom- paratively reduced position, was named as minister pleni-
.la ting policy. (Hear, hear.) Let ushave peace even upon plished a peace upon safe and honourable terms. (Cheers potontiary to negociate a peace and end a war for which he
.b _ustrian terms, and let us hope .that the energies of and laughter). I say, therefore, that the hon. baronet has perhaps more than any otter
person was responsible-a
t tart ommerce may atone for the failure of our arms ; not only misrepresented my noble friend, but has also man who, althongh ahsent ou that mission, was eppeinted
or let the ministers and the people be with one heart. and contradicted himself over and over again in his short to the office of Secretary of State with a seat in the eabi-
one soul to carry on this war to a speedy and triumphant speech-(a laugh)-though it was not a very short one. net-every one feels, I say, that when we have to discuss
end, by the earnestness of our purpose and the worthiness The only point that I can compliment the hon. baronet the character and conduct of such a person, under such cir-
of our preparations. Well, then, I ask whether Lord Cla- upon is his discretion in shrinking from the contest of cumatances as those which exist, we have to do with a
rendon is the spokesman of a united cabinet? I should like which he had given notice. (Cheers, laughter, and cries of question of a grave character-a question respecting which
Ito hear the expression of opinion an the part of other mem- " no." I repeat, shrinking from the contest-(hear)-for the country has a right to expect, and, moreover, will' de-
hers of the Cabinet besides the noble viscount. There are what did he say? His charge, he said, included the whole mandeinformation as to his conduct and motives. (Hear,
gentlemenin the Government who have not as yet expressed of the Government. Well, then, here we are, ready to meet hear.) His motives have been questioned-his conduct
their opinion upon the nature of the war or the proposi- him. (Loud laughter, cheers, and cries of " oh.") After has been impugned-his colleagues, or, rather, the noble
tions for peace. What are the opinions of the Chancellor of the exhibition, the lamentable exhibition, I must say, the viscount, for Ohe Government stakes the' existence of the
the Exchequer? What are the opinions of the First Lord hon. baronet has made; however, Ido not think the coun- Cabinet on thZ triumphant vindication of the conduct of
of the Admiralty ? Are all the members of the Govern- try will be at all anxious to expose itself to the ridicule the noble lord. It is scarcely forty-eight hours since the
went united upon this subject? Again, I ask, is Lord which, according to the hon. baronet's statement, would Prime Minister of the country could hardly seppress his
Clarendon the spokesman of a united Cainet ? If so, I attend that change of Government which it was the object exultation at the prospect of the coming fight, stating
am glad of it ; but you told us the same in the month of of the hon. baronet's motion to accomplish. (Cheers; laugh- that he was ready to stand or fall by his noble friend,
May last, when we now know that the noble lord (Rus- ter, and disapprobation.) and behold, ;suddenly, before the motion in question
sell) was dividing your councils, and when it is our Mr. DISRAELI-Sir, I should not have thought it ne is ebrought on, and before my hon. friend, or any other
impression, and that of the country, that the noble lord to make remark this question but for the member of this house has an °lvor Weiler of expreesing his
did not stand alone in those opinions. (Hear, hear.) lam cessary any on opinion on the subject of that motion, the noble lord is
courtesy which is pre-eminently due to the observations of
willing to give you all the benefit of the doubt. The noble mysteriouely withdrawn- from office. (Cheers.) One of so
lord's retirement from office has so far effected my' object; a person who fills the office of First Minister of the country prominent ,and responsible a position in the eyes of the
but he must pardon me for saying that Ido not think ho and leader of this house. (Laughter and cheers.) The house country as the noble lord, called upon as he lied been by
has at all cancelled what I call his errors. The noble lord's will excuse nee therefore for making a few comments upon his Sovereign to form a cabinet, then to conduct most itn.
retirement has at least prevented for a time those errors portent negotiations in the Vienna congrees. and made in
the remarkable address of the noble viscount. Sir, such his absence Secretary of State in conmendcwn -(laughter)
increasing in the public service. There is something, how-
a, defence of an Administration placed, in such a critical -a person of such accumulated responsibility, whose con-
ever, which I think ought to be more precious than any
peace, and more glorious than any war-I mean that high position, in circumstances of such gravity, and with a duct has been publicly challenged, and whom the First
standard of public integrity, without which nations, weight of
responsibility attaching to it such as no Mini- 'Minister of the Crown pledged himself to steed or fall by
though mighty, may rot, and with which all enemies may nitration has for many years incurred and encountered, in vindication of that conduct-(laughter)-that such a
be defied. On Friday week he heard reasons given to Ido not suppose any person in this house or out of it either evade,
should withdraw in such a manner-that he should
justify the expediency of dissimulation. It is for us to say
ever listened to or conceived to he possible. (Loud cheers, etera doef, bytji
et that means,wn sho nl alld - discussion u
is
id own
a;,, that ,
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we, the representatives of the people-I certainly
do not desire to claim a triumph for either party-it is and expressions of dissatisfaction.) I think it would have nothing," is, I will not say, an intolerable mode of acting,
we, I say, who have combined to raise the standard of been only respectful to the eminent member of this house
who has just quitted the Cabinet of the noble viscount, if but certainly not a proper manner of meeting the quee-
public integrity to that proper height to which even the tions so raised. (Cheers.' This patrician bullying of the
enemies of England admit her right to raise it. Now, in
the noble viscount had treated the circumstance and the Treasury bench may do for a private bill. This tone may
be assttuaed for the petty object of party triumph to-night,
asking leave to withdraw my motion, allow me to con-
gratulate the house upon having successfully asserted occasion with some little regard both to the character of to be forgotten in the morning. (Hear.) But the discus
those vital elements of all free goverruents which the noble lord the member for London wad to the subject sion is upon the vital policy of a country, one of the
now under consideration. (Cheers.) The noble viscount,
are nearly lost from our national councils. The house has greatest in the world, with peace or war for the issue.
maintained its character in the recognition of the principle however, only made the secession of the noble lord the When we are discussing the conduct of campaigns, and
of public virtue, which should influence the actions oftheir results, and when we have before us, in connection
public men on all occasions, and which declares that no cy- subject of common-place bluster. (Loud cheers.) Notice with these questions, the character and conduct of a states-
nical audacity shall give the lie to our convictions. All the is given of a vote of want of confidence in my administra- man whose mind has given form andcoloaring to the history
objects we have had in view have been effected, except the of this country for the last quarter of a century-that the
tion, said the noble viscount-you remember the high
party object of the change of one government for another spirit which I showed a few 'eights ago, when I stated that noble viscount should rise iu his place and try to stop this
that may come later. I trust that even a change ofgoveru- 1 was ready to meet you-here lam really to meet you- discussion by addressing language to any hon, friend which
went would be viewed as comparatively triviel compared (cheers and leughter)-e-mill you will experience a defeat I will not use an unparliamentary epithet to describe-but
with the great object of a vigorous prosecution ofthe war. when the exhibiticlhiatuade-for the node lord calls the which is language, I will say, that should not be used by
lam willing that the government should not be removed, admirable speech of nosy hon. friend an exhibition. I hay the leader of Parliament, for that is an accident of life, but
but I warn them that they will he under a much more vi- admirable because it expresheer it language which the by a gentleman, who is not an accident of life. All that
silent surveillance of public opinion. It remains to he seen noble viscount cannot and-(hear and laughter)-the
yet whether the sacrifice of a man who has hitherto been feeling ef the country, I heard from the noble lord was some sort of abuse of my
hon. friend the member for Hertfordshire, for his allege,'
political views which I think
trusted by his country and revered even by his opponents, it would be well, indeed, or the herd if he followed. constitutional ignorance or intentional malignity in
until in an evil hour, when on two previous occasions he (Cheers and laughter.) I will n it the answer, but assuming foe a moment that my Lord Clarendon, when
might have / eared from office with honour, you induced the • reckless rhodotnontade with h the noble lord he wrote his despatches, might have been ex.pressine his
• him to consult your temporary interests rather than the treated the speech and the motion of my hon. friend individual opinion, and not that of the Cabinet of which
he was a member. ' Now, I put it to the house whether
dignity of his own imperishable name, it remains to scarcely requires further comment-(cheers, and no)-and
be seen whether that sacrifice has clearly reameed the were it not that the subject is one which I still believe to they think that any doorkeeper could make such a mistake
only obstacle to the earnestness of your purposes and the be an expression of the opinions of a great majority in this or take refuge in such gross ignorance or malignity ? What
unity of your councils. (Cheers.) house, 1 should net thick it neemesareato make any remarks my hon.. friend said was that, individually, he gave credit
to Lord Clerendon as expressing in th• se dispatches the
Mr. BPI:17E11'E -I am not going to follow the hon. on the observations of the noble lord. (Cheers.) But let
he a; roved o .My on.friend did not
baronet into the subject of his motion, now departed into remind the house of the gravity of the subject-of the Pricy which f h •
mean to say that my Lord Clarendon wrote those
seriousdes-
we
character of the facts-of the very peculiar circum-
thin air. But there is a matter personal to myself, and atances which have attended the negociations carried on the
without the knowledge of the other members of
with which my name has been connected in reference to during the present war, since its commencement and in the Cabinet what he meant was that there might be a,
recent transactions, which has given me much pain. I its progress. (Hear, hear.) -What happened at the begin- Secretary of State-there wight be a member of the Cabi-
trust, therefore, that the house will permit me be a few ning of the last session of Parliament ? (Murmurs.) net who slid not sympathise Sr concur in such policy. And
sentences to justify myself on what I cannot lent conceive That murmur is a better answer, coming from whence me hon. friend says he must be pardoned for being inere-
to be a matter affecting my personal character, iu con- it does, than almost any other which my question could dulons on that point, for the house were told a few weeks
section with the retirement of the noble lord. The state- receive. (Hear, hear.) When we were discussing the ago that the Cabinet were unanimous when that despatch
meat is that on the part of a number of my colleagues, not papers which had been laid on the table by order of her eves written. And it now appears that the most illustrious
in the Cabinet, I represented to the noble lord that we Majesty-when the house expressed its determination to member of that Cabinet did not agree in the policy ex-
pressed therein: The noble lord the First Minister now
were prepared to resign our offices rather than oppose the uphold the interests of the country, and a want of coufi-
motion of the hon. baronet: (Hear.) Sir, so far as lam deuce in the government was almost avowed-is it not the informed us that the member for the
.city of London came
concerned, I beg to state most fully and decidedly that fact that the noble lord the late Secretary of State (Rus- back to this country recommending a particular policy
that is not only not an accurate representation of the sell) rose in his place, and denounced the Emperor of Rus- to the cabinet -but then, says he, there were certain cir-
fact, but that it is the very reverse of the fact. Ilia and the Russian Prime Minister as persons whose con- cunestances which occurred in the course of the week which
In spite of the criticisms of the hon. baronet, I still believe duct in respect to the cause of the war was felt() and fraudu. rendered it impossible it should be received and adopted.
in the integrity, the honour, and the sagacity of my noble lent ? (Cheers.) Well, what occurred after this ?An The circumstances referred to were well known-viz., that
friend. And if in matters of recent occurrence, I might be answer appeared in a foreign newspaper, referring to trans- France would not listen to the proposal, and that the French
disposed to question the accuracy of his judgment, still I actions wnich had been concealed from the knowledge of minister had, therefore, resigned. What was it that he
hope the house will permit me to say that the glory of all the House of Commons; and within a few days thereafter stated to-night IHe says "My colleague came back from
which the noble lord has done for his country may have the this house was treated to a series of revelatious on the sub- Vienna and has proposed certain terms for the obtaining
effect of preventing me seeing those specks which might be jest; the most extraordinary, to say the least of them, of of peace. These terms are denounced by the House of
said by others to blemish his fair fame. Apart from ail po- any recorded in diplomatic annals. Well, what happened Commons and the country, brit the reason why he did not
litical attachment to the noble lord, lam not ashamed to this year ? The Minister of the Crown comes down to adopt them is not because they are considered by the House
confess a strong personal attachment to the noble lord. I this house to excite the country on the subject of the of Commons and the country totally inadequate to the
feel I should be unworthy of that friendship with which war, and does excite it. What follows ? A. document occasion, net because our ally would not agree to them."
the noble lord has honoured me if I were found amongst appears-the Austrian circular to its foreign ministers- I infer that if no difficulty had arisen with ehance,
the number of those who, we are told, swarm in times of referring to matters which were concealed from the House the terms of compromise on which this question would have
prosperity, but who fall away in-the period of adversity. of Commons, which gave a new aspect, as we all know now, been settled, the termson which agreat war wouldhave been
The pact which I took in these transactions was this : I to the whole of these affairs. (Cheers.) Are these not re- concluded, art the terms which the noble lord brought from
was aware that there was a strong impression amongst markable facts ? (Cheers.) Are these news to be received Vienna. (No, no, from the Treasury benele) No, no. Forel'
many of my colleagues that the sense of the country with murmurs? (Cheers.) Last year the speech of the noble that, I want the noble lord to rise and speak upon the
and the the house was so strong against the noble lord that lord the member for the City called forth the correspond-
it was idle for them to contend against the motion of ence of members of the cabinet who had addressed the Em- ject, or if the, noble lord cannot speak again, some of his
the honourable baronet. I was aware that a represents- peror of Russia in language very different from what they
colleagues may-there are plenty of them. hey, the only
Lion was likely to be addressed to the noble viscount at had held in this house. (Cheers.) This year the speech of inference that could be drawn from the rash and discour-
the head of the Government upon the subject. I, how- the noble lord has brought out another correspondence, precipitately made they may have been, was that the terms
ever, refused to be a party to any such representation, on which shows that ministers wore willing to agree to an which the noble lord brought from Vienna would have
the distinct ground of my personal attachment to my noble arrangement contrary to what this house has recom- been accepted by the cabinet but for the difficulty raised
friend. At the same time I stated, that as a friend of the mended. (Cheers.) I ask, are not these grave circum- by France. We, 'therefore, know what the noble lord
noble lord I was ready, however painful it must be, to in- stances? (Cheers.) I ask, is there not still some lingering think of these terms, and of the case before the house, and
form the noble lord of the general impression that existed respect for itself in the House of Commons, which will not I appeal to the house if this statement is true, and I he-
among my colleagues. (Laughter.) I was not aware, in let these facts pass unscrntinised ? (Cheers.) Well, what Hove it if true, how they are to justify the conduct of the
pursuing that course, that I was acting any but the part of happens? (Hear.) It is obviously impossible to pass by the noble lord, who came into office as a great war minister ?
a true friend of the noble lord. (Great laughter.) I was revelations of the Austrian minister unnoticed. A motion Viscount PALMERSTON-The hon. gentleman totally
• doing that which was most painful to myself, but I felt I is framed accordingly, conveying what I believe to be the misunderstands what I stated, and what was stated by my
was only discharging the duty which I owed to my noble feeling of this house. That motion aimed in its construe- noble friend. He stated that his. opinion of the practice-
friend. I endeavoured to discharge that duty to the best don at one member of the Cabinet; but it did not seek to bility of these terms was changed by circumstances. But
of my ability, and lam satisfied that my noble friend fully visit with the censure of the house that minister alone.- I never said that was the opinion of the rest of the Cabi-
appreciates the motives and the friendship which prompted (Hear.) The noble lord the member for London, the minis- act or of myself. On the contrary, I said that the language
me to undertake such an office. (Cheers and laughter.) ter aimed at, is himself mainly responsible for the language of the noble Secretary of Foreign Affairs had been un-
Viscount PALMERSTON-Sir, the resolution towhich of that resolution-for, six weeks ago, when, upon good favourable and adversed
to any such
were terms, and f
hayyself
at his
the hon. baronet has come does as much credit to his die- information I wanted this house to interpose in the matter language, opinion,- an eentiments those o
cretion the noble lord objected to the resolution then proposed, and the rest of the Cabinet Ministers. (Cheers.)
on the ground that it w too vague and general in its Mr. DISRAELL-What the noble lord has said does
talents as his eloquence generally does honour to his was too
But, at the same time, lam bound to say that I terms. (Cheers.) On the present occasion, therefore, it not in the least affect what I was saying. In consequence
never heard a speech more full of inconsistencies. (Cheers.) became absolutely necessary to refer to a particular minis- of circumstances the noble lord- the member for the City of
In the first place, while the speech of my noble friend the ter. But I for one repeat now what I have often said be- London remains in the Cabinet, and in consequence of cir-
fore, that I will never make an attack upon one member of'
member for London was still ringing in the hon. baronet'scumstances which have arisen, others that were favourable
ears-a speech in which my noble friend stated, that though the Government-(Hear)-as I hold the whole. Cabinet re- to that opinion remain.
bl (Hear, hear.) And when my hon. friend asked
he had certainly entertained certain views as regarded the leaveP to withdraw his resolution it was quite clear that Viscount PALMERSTON.-None. '
propositions for peace on his return from Vienna, yet that after the important step taken by the noble lord, that any
Mr. DISRAELI-I can fancy the noble lord addressing
his colleagues in the Cabinet would say-" It is of no use
a few days after his return events had occurred, and air- resolution to meet the case must be drawn up in different
language. (Hear, hear ) But sir no one on these benches .discussing whether we are to have ever or peace ; there is no
cumstances had taken place, which proved that the plan for
intended by his' vote' on that r'esolution, had it come use in a *controversy about whether we shall pursue the
that purpose which he had believed to be practicable in on, to sanction any attack upon au individual member war with vigour, or accept those terms, because circum-
Vienna was practicable no longer, and this being so, that of the Cabinet. (Hear.) On the contrary, I expressed it stances have rendered it impossible to act upon this
nion, and therefoie we shall dismiss it to the limbo of re-
he was prepared to concur with his colleagues in the Go- as my own opinion that there was no member of the Cabi-
vernment in the vigorous prosecution of the war-the hon. net who was not identified with the policy of the noble jested projects." ,But, if it were not for these circum-
lord, and that more than one member of the Government stances, the inference which I draw is that you would have
baronet, I say, with this fresh in his memory, goes on ar-accepted those terms, and, if possible, have carried them
guing as if the contrary was the fact-that my noble friend ought to stand andand expresstnoguestthieoinr opinions on the subject
)fpeace and war, at issue. I had good through Parliament. Now the question is, Did you or did
from that day to this night has acted as if he still enter- reason to believe that the views of the noble lord the mein- you not approve of the project which the noble lord
d? This is a subject on which we cannot
tamed opposite opinions on the subject to those which he ber for the City were favourably entertained by the whole , brought forward?
al lea. It is not enough for the t t
has expressed and acted on, and proceeds upon an assumption of his colleagues, and that nothing but the occurrence of 1 accept
aanscra P
s y, we did not approve of that pro.mecitn•lstheart to
which be must know to be wholly groundlese, if his memory unforeseen ciroumatances has prevented the plan of , u
geevery"minutepoint. The point is, whetherj or not the
is worth ten minutes' duration, to make it a charge against arrangement which he proposed and advocated from being 1
noble lord the member for London communicated with
my noble friend, and the fog,
do
sofas peech against adopted by the Government. (Cheers.) I make these state-
the Government. I sin astonished, ir, that any hon. gen- meats not without due authority. (Cheers.) I make them other ministers than those whoa ppear on the papers pre-
sented eo Parliament, giving them the outline and spirit of
tleman should take such a course. And yet, forsooth, the on the same authority as six weeks ago I made similar
the policy which was developing under his auspices at
statements on the same subject in analogous languaee-
hon. baronet-is the man to stand up on the question of sin- . . .v• Vienna and whether he received any discouraging reply ?
cerity. On that point I give the hon.- baronet, however, (hear)-and my conviction is, that before long-before the (Loud e
cheers.) I have ,333.6011 to think that commune.
his choice; eithenof deliberate insincerity on his own part, present session terminates-there will be evidence of the
,cations.. were made, and that the noble lord did not receive
or of the grossest possible pelitical ignorance. (Cheers and fact before the house. (Hear.) The noble viscount, how-
' disapprobation.) The hon. baronet says he applauds Lord ever, rises and talks of bringing forward the motion of my any discouraging reply. hear.) If that was so we
ought to receive extracts from (Hear,hem letters. Again, when
hon. friend in terms wholly inadequate to the oCcasion.
Clarendon's conduct. But what of that ? Lord Clarendon•
was the organ of his own feelings and opinions. (Cheers.) and tries to stop all discussion. L told the noble viscount- le •
the noble lord arrived in England, del he expect, or had he
any reason for expec ing, in every chance, that these pro-.
Does the hon. baronet believe that ? If he does, then all I six weeks ago that we were only in the ante-ehamber, as it
can say is that he is more grossly ignorant-I will not say were, of discussion ; but the noble viscount, as usual, positions would be card fed intoeffect ? (as it a fact,. or not,
than any man in this house-but than any child who reads laughed it off. (Hear.) I ask, however, has not the result that the French Minister communicated with the authori-
a newspaper. (Hear, and no, no.) been almost a daily discussion ? and I tell the noble vis- ties at Paris while at Viernea, and received a reply which
was favourable to these proposi• ions and that that reply
Sir E. B. LYTTON-I rise to order. The noble lord is count once more that so long as. the conduct of the Go-
was communicated to the nobs.) low"' the member for the
misrepresenting my argument. (Cheers, and cries of tro.) vernment is marked byambiguity and open to grave doubt,
What I stated was that I regarded Lord Clarendon as the so long must there be discussion, until, indeed, the politi-•
City-that
he, in consequence of that communication, cora-
mumcated with his colleagues? That, in consequence of
representative of his own opinions. (Hear.) I did not state cal atmosphere has become clear. (Cheers.) The house
ho was not the representative of the opinions of the will therefore see that we are discussing a question of great that, there was not a compact, but an understanding, be-
Government, but that Iregarded the noble lord the Chief importance. The noble viscount, with a great deal of tween both Governments that these terms might be ac-
thatce ted ? Is it or not the fact that, for at reset for a day-
Minister of the Crown as responsible for the opinions of noise, takes credit to himself for having accepted the re-
the entire Government. (Hear) signation of the noble lord the member for the City, and for I gelieve for a much longer time-these terms were accepted
by the Government of England, and that they were sano•
Viscount PALMERSTON-Even so,I must say that the saying at the same time he was ready to stand or fall by
tinned by the noble lord the First Minister?
hon. baronet's explanation leaves the matter just where I the noble lord. I admire this sort of thing as much as any
Viscount PALMERSTON-No.
found it. It reminds me of the well-known question, "Who one else •; but, after such strong expressions of respect and ear. DISRAELI-I have some reason for entertaining
shall interpret for the interpreter ?" (Laughter.) The hon. affection, I should much rather wish to see the act follow
that suspicion. I know not whether this Parliament will
baronet's explanation requires an interpreter. (Laughter, the word. (Cheers.) The noble viscount says he was ready
last six moots more
and 'cheers.) The honourable baronet cannot deny-he to stand or fall by the noble lord. Ido not see that he
; but 'if it do, I believe I shall find
these remarks which I am now making-which are being
does not deny-that he stated Lord Clarendon was has either stood or fell by him ;on the contrary, he has
received now by some 'so suspiciously-recelved at length
and I now express my profound
the organ and expression .of his own opinion, and remained sitting on the Treasury bench. (Laughter and
he drew a contrast, moreover, on that basis-he said, cheers.) How was the knot to be solved? The noble by the great majority of this house. I make a statement
on the greatest authority,
" while the noble lord at the head of the Government viscount presses the hand of the noble lord ;he vows eter- conviction of its truth. And now we are toet that it is
speaks for the Government, Lord Clarendon speaks for ual devotion to him-(laughter)-he says we are in the
making much ado about.nothing. Taco years ago we were
himself." (Langhtere and hear.) And says the honour- same boat-(laughter)-we shall share the same fate there- involved • • •
fore-(laughter and cheers) -and in a spirit of political in negotiations on a most important suoject and
able baronet, 1 should like to know what letters were • • h which
written by the noble viscount to Lord Clarendon. (Cheers Pelt-Jeans-IP, would be extraordinary if it were sin- time if any member of the
at that 'house rose to ask a'ques-
lion he was told that he 'ought not to press his question,
from the opposition benches.) That derisive cheer is the core, he says, "one member of the firm, one member of
one that befits the question. The honourable baronet the Cabinet can't be bankrupt; we all stand together, or as he al embarrass the policy of Goverumeat. What
did thwatnind indulgence end hi 9. The greetest ,liplomatic de-
well knows that the correspondence with a plenipotentiary we all fall together." (Cheers.) But in the meanwhile
feats on record.igenAcenoel •'ear passed, and we were ' in-
is carried on by the head of the Government as well as by there are other means by which the noble lord, who is sol .
Another
rose to aek a
vo ved in war. If a member - question he was
the Secretary of State ; and therefore I repeat what I have adroit, can extricate himself from this position. He is
our
silence-nottactics,
and
another word-or the enemy will know
already said-I offer the hon. baronet his choice between Pledged to stand or fall with the noble lord-u ho, by the
deliberate insincerity and the grossest public ignorance: way, has fallen, while the noble viscount remains standing
cation of the war. Now; when a third year has nearly
uittactics, you wnterfere with the vigorens presto
(Cheers and approbation.) I 'wonder that a man of the -(laughter and cheers)-and it required the talent of the
hon. baronet's standings-•a man given out to hold a high Vice-President of the Board of Trade to solve the question els in these du
expired, a foreign document appears-the mind of the
country is agitated-a few expresseh , eament
es the noble via 'cunt had to
office in the Government that is to come-(cheers and of such difficulty and delicacy e
laughtcr)-should be capable of adopting such a course or deal with. (Laughter and cheers.) That solution seems de the land, a hellei that there is
arrest the attention, A. question 13 asked in the house.
Ihiubt and distrust pervade a „a.r . ,„,
eel., , ~;r e
should place himself in the dilemma of such an alternative. to be successful. (Laughter.) I listened to the Vice-
And this reminds me that the bon- baronet said the re- President of the Board of Trade with the feeling which gal t iti the-uranag-etnent of our
.:edio,sl,:o_leitlis.irs•eteortftlo,Lis
call it guilt to cones down to hi
peated changes which have taken place in the government became the occasion. (Laughter.) lam not a friend of + thud to give reeemes for his
of the country wee canted it to be the ridicule of Europe, the noble lord the member for London, but I appreciate, lof Commons-as a Minister,
•
peel:
(Laughter and cheers.) why Hoe there might be another hope, his high qualities, in common with the Vice Preai
of the Minister abroad. (Hear.) A foreign tlocurnent ap-
telk -they ask queetiens.
tI • f th f
change' which would make the' country still more re•dicu. dent of the Board of Trade. I canne , eon ess,, ere ore,
shall be
rcsy-wthlucph arei to otthailnlyk-attheeeytriance with his in
lous-(cheers and anohter)-if a man like the hon. baro. aompreheuti the position of the Vice President of the Board 1?
net was to hold a high situation in that Government. of Trade iii this cam, as not only the friend, but the de-
broaught forward ?He rays e
night on which it is announced a
lord. I can
(Cheers, laughter, and disapprobation.) The hon. baronet voted friend and political admirer of noble .W. hat hapepheunsPte
.one of the ibtlirtt.
tohfisetqauteesstmioenn
t rionsly disappears-the man
wants to know if Lord Clarendon spoke and wrote the Ben. only very distantly approximate, to the nature of his
gious liberty;
'and
and opinionsof the Government ? I say he did speak feeling-(laughter)-and lam sure the house will appre-
Parliament, who has told us to night that he has been
the sentiments and opinions of a united Cabinet. (Cheers elate the agony which he must have felt before the result of reputation of a quarter of a century-the reformer of
throughout his 'long carver the champion of civil and. roll-
and laughter.) I speak the sentiments and opinions of a of his convictions arrived at the form of an imperative
united Cabinet, and I defy the hon. baronet to show any du.ty, (Laughter.) Thore are many instances of friend- who has metin debate, who has contended with
giants
I ay have made on the subject ship on record L held to be a
( aughter.) Friendship was
passage in any speech m
which does not tally with the despatches of Lordt3l rendon. gift of the gods, given as a comfort and a consolation to antighas achieved great success-the man
as the late Sir R. Peel-that man dare not to-night meet
(Cheers.) I am surprised that the hon. baronet or any man. It is a theme which has long occupied the ingenuity
etead the noble lord has poken eu
the debate on his acts and on his language. But, in his
hon. gentlemen should have felt himself justified in such a of essayists and the intellect of philosopher,: ; an,' the
mum, as that which he has taken on this occasion, should greatest minds have been engaged in the aualvais of its va- :
~ uaee and the tone of 's.
'
iPteerests of the country •
his tuind that' •
, I
ihiratensoloannobnyr
andhieltahno-
lower himself so much in the estimation of this house and riot=s forme and conditions. - (Laughter.) friCLld3 arts of
of the üblia on a mere consideration of party purposes. many kinds, as we know. (Laughter.) There is the •
first will be degraded and the last betrayed.
Heap.) The hon. lee onet 'Roan his speech by taunting devoted Monti, who stands or felle hv you-(loud laughter) noble le-• at the
V- I'OEBTJOIT Ti I 9, ' 0 .1
IC 9,ngu gr of th
the C',,,vernlneut with r,i '' . nal() rri, ad as a --like the noble viscount Be cbete is also that other -- • ' ' -••• 'he-
:h,ri acing nay .
all
lad t',o hou,o +0
victim to avoid • ''- I w been• ' "
lint at it • c Pyle:sem moot., who bas nuuortali=r,d by an• epithet sehich i 3 head of her are committed to his keeping the
3.Niajesteee Cievernmeat wi_ - • - - .
he roprc.mleA u'lsn, tilaieTo`v":7,l'itoolirtn,liior ii`1,.,'„,,,',,,,;,:'iug ii,e HA to he inenti6iled to (ars po;it,. (LaughtLr.) We all ~,,pro,o that he I,ac, been iii,;'n,,,;kl by some tale. NV)io has
know that Itiend,
voluntary tender of resignation made by my eoble Ilieud. . • (Laughter.) le was a hie:Haut crime done him an injuryo-and what is it ? A question has been
(Cheers.) How can the hon. baronet reconcile.theso oafs- meat of this house who once described that friend'
(Laughter.) But though the devoted friend, especially if
crepant propositions? (near.) On thepartof the Go-
asked of the noble lord heretofore his colleague. That clues-
i*nment I deny the first charge, and I repel the lsoputa- he is Prime Minister, takes the Brat position in the onn- lion received an answer from the noble lord, which answev
. . . . . _ .

brought forward the motion of the hon. member for Hurts I lined terms that the urevaimone decision of the Cabinet I bill, but approved the suggestion to refer the bill to a ee '
(Sir E. B. Lytton). The noble lord the member for Lon- was that the interests of the e ,untry required that the 1 lees committee.
don did on that occasion what he did once before. At the Anetrian proposals shout, ibe rejeetni. (Ironical cheers.) The bill was read a. second time, and, the SOLICITOR..
very sound of danger, at the first whistle of the storm, he I challenge, then, the neat hon. gentler-rot for the proof GENERAL theiseutang, was ordered to be referred to *
of his assertion that at en i • ' the Celainet expressed select committee.
..iorlOu
ran and bid himself in the back benches ;he disappeared an opinion favoure We to the) ro ositions. On the con- . SPIRITS (IRELAND) ACT.
from the Treasury bench. The right hon. gentleman (Mr.
Disraeli) had referred to the noble lord's reputation of a trare, we arrived' 'at an -unpaniptnorts conclusion-some The Lords' amendments to this bill were considered- and
quarter of a century ; I fear that that repu'ation has die- might have been influenced by. one reason others by an- `agreed to.
appeared also. The nolne lord has forgotten his duty to other-but at last we arrive,' at the unanimous. conclusion The Lunatics Asylums (Ireland) Bill was read a third.
that the duty of the Government and the interests of the time and passed ; the Sale of Spirits (Ireland) Bill passe°.
England, to this house, to truth, and to honour. (Sense,- country required that the Austrian proposition should be through committee ; the Schools (Scotland) Bill was, after
lion and murmurs.) We will see if this be not true. In rejected. It was rejected, and the despatch containing the a division, ordered to be read a second time that day three
consequence of a motion of which I gave notice in this rejection was commttnieated to every member of the Cabi- months.
house, the noble lot d retired from the Government of Lord net before it was sent off, and received the cordial and The Treasurers of Counties (Ireland) Bill wasconiideredr
Aberdeen, and, in retiring, left behind him a speech, - unanimous concurrence of all. (Hear.) It is nosy said that and ordered for third reading to-morrow.
which, in fact, broke up that cabinet. Then, like Jack in my noble friend practised a deceit on the house on the The Lords' amendments to the Friendly Societies Bill
the box, he turns up at Vienna. There he is entrusted with 24th of May, when he sup oder! a vieorous war, and that were considered ; the Trinity College (Ireland) Bill was.
the great interests of this great country. He goes there we were partakers in the deceit for not having remora- read a second time ; the Court of Junicature (Prince ot
with specific instructions, instructions which do the noble strated against the inferences to be drawn from his state- Wales Island, &c.) Bill was read a second time ; the Crown,
lord the Foreign Secretary great honour. When there, ter- meats. I den sir, that either Government or toy noble Suits Bill was read a second time.
twin proposals are made-they are said to have been made friend were chargeable with such deceit. He spoke in MORTMAIN BILL.
by the Austrian Minister. To these proposals the noble
laneuage in which all his colleagues participated when he This bill was read a third time, and several verbal
lord assents. He suggests them to his Cabinet with a sig-
leethe house to believe that he was convinced the honour amendments were introduced at the suggestion of the So-
nificaut paragraph at the end of his letter to this effect :- and interests of the country required that the Austrian licitor-General.
" I hope no decisive answer will be given to his proposi-
proposals should be rejected, and that all means should be The Dissenters' Marriage Bill was read a third time
Lion before lam heard." The noble lord came to this taken to bring the war in the Crimea to a successful con- after some verbal amendments had been made.
house in his character of a member of the Cabinet. The elusion. The spe•ch of my noble friend was in fact one -MR. ROEBUCK'n MOTION.
question of the conference is brought before this house. from which none of his colleagues could have dissented, it Mr. SPOONER begged to ask the hon. and learned
.He has been heard ; the Cabinet knew his opinions ; they contained no doubt his own honest and earnest convic. member for Sheffield whether he intended to proceed with
knew the ground of those opinions. When the noble lord tions, and harmonised undoubtedly with the sentiments of the motion which stood in his name on the paper, relative
came to this house he came to find his conduct as a nego- the Government. (Hear, hear.) to the conduct of the war in the Crimea?
tiator impugned. Now I will appeal to this house-I will • Mi. ROEBUCK : I certainly do intend to bring it for
appeal to every hon. member who recollects the speech of Mr. GLADSTONE-I have no intention of entering into
ward tomorrow, or rather this day.
, the noble lord nu the 2An May, whether in that speech he the personal questions, considered as such, which have The house adjourned at one o'clock.
' did not declare himself an uncompromising advo- been raised in this debate, neither shall I avail myself of ......--..e -
cate,of the war. Did ho in that speech give us to under- the opportunity which the technicalities of the house may
. stand that the negotiations had been so carried on that he CO U NT.'S If 4/A.B.KFITS.
be said to offer for discussing the policy of the war with
4 had received proposals for peace from the Austrian Minis- ..._-a--__
ter which had net his approval? (Hear, hear.) Did he reference to the late negotiations, but it appears to me
CHELMSFORD-JuLY 13. - •
e not lead the house-I am sure he led me-(hear, hear)-to that inasmuch as most important papers containing most
alic, supply of wheat at our market to-day not being very'
e an opinion which gave to the noble lord at the head of the importent disclosures have been laid on the table since the
large, and the. millers .evincing a readiness to purchase,
Government a large majority on that occasion? (Hear, house .debated this great and momentous subject, and inas- prices advanced fully 1s per qr. on the best wheats. Spring
. hear.) Now, I will make a confession to this house. I
I came to this house upon the 24th May fully intending to it must be perfectly plain to the House of Corn= corn firm at last week's prices. Barley scarce, and the turn
much as
dearer.
e vote with the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli). In mons that the debate on this subject has ended-not, in-
proof of this I may make one statement. I received a deed, in total darkness, but with most imperfect informs- Wheat, white, old, s. s. j
e qr. 62 84 I Oats, per qr 29 I,,
,e letter from the noble lord at the bead of her Majesty's tion in reepect te the question under discussion-it appears, new.... 62 84 I Peas, Partridge 39 en
Government inviting me to a meeting of his friends pre-
vious to that . discussion. Feeling Cithin myself that I I say, quite plain to me, that there must be an early aud red, old 58 77 White. ee 42
was about to oppose the noble lord, I did not attend that more satisfactory discussion on the subject. (Hear.) At new.... 58 77 Boiling 42 49
g •29 36 Dun 37 40
1, meeting. I felt it was no place for me. But I voted with present, however, in the midst of the difficulties by which Barley
Chevalier. 29 37 I Beans, Tick
011 the noble lord. Why ? Because of the speech of the noble we are encompassed, these papers raise some questions upon Grinding . 25 32 I
lord the member for the Cety of London. I said to myself Harrow ticks 4' 441
PT which it is desirable that the Government should have the But ,
• when I came to this house, " I will not vote for a divided .68 72 I • Mazagan 39 n'
18opportunity of giving the fullest information and expla- Chevalier ..... ..... 70 74 I Ditto, new 39 41
is Government." I thought that the noble lord-anti it is nation, namely, as regards the obligation that rests on •
so well known that there was throughout the house, and every them to communicate fully to the house papers, when upon
Lie gallery of it, a.rnosour to that effect-was. coming down COLCHESTER 3ULY ' 14.
those papers are to be raised solemn discussions and.. on
be. to make a peace speech. Teethed of doing so, he made a them are to be based solemn decisions. .(Hear.) The twat In general the supplies of wheat in the district have not
' vigorous onslaught on . Russia. I said we have now a.l b so large this week as f late, and the millers having
been. 9.
..e. .
of
et- objection I runiu to take is to the speech delivered by my
wonked themselves rather bare of stocks, in expectation
he
4,, united Cabinet. I can -see the danger of ousting such a noble friend the member for London on the 21th May. I
;r5 Cabinet.. The noble lord convinced me ; I was re-assured, a tut ther tail, they nave been compelled•td come into the
in taut wish to overstate or exaggerate the importance of
. and voted with him. He practised upon me a deceit ; andmarkets as purchasers. There has tendency,beret
m that speech as a demonstretion in favour of a warlike ... been a t ,_.
I say that the noble lain at the head of her Majesty's Go-fore, to a Ilse , and in to-day's market really good saner'
ratpolicy, butthis stands clearly • ell' t' that
I
by vernment condoned with that deceit-(cheers)-and I sayof wheat realised is to is 6d more than last week; barley
when in the course of the discussion, and speaking before
"' this is not doing your duty with truth and honour. Tile
••• sold readily, and at rather better rates.
Prices to-day were as follow :-Wheat, white, 76s toga;
a, any member of the Government bad' uttered an opinion, J.
words which were on the lips of the noble lord did not red, 7-24 to 819 ; barley, 3. 2s to 348 ; oats, 30s to 34s ; box'
ventured to say that it appeared to me that the last two
•_
come from his heart. He came down to this house and
as- propositions of the Russian plenipotentiary, instead of
urged us to war when he himself was in favour of peace, being summarily rej-eted, ought to have been treated as Mazagan, 40s to 42s ; middle and small, 44s to 48s ; 054
'1„ But the noble lord says filet. after he came from Ii inane the starting points for further communication, my noble whit, 46s to 488 ; grey, 42s to 445.
ee, and arrived in London eirdettustances occurred which al-
as friend, following me in that debate, denounced in the
Official Statement of the Quantities of Corn, &c., recoiled
lured his opinion. The rie,ht hon. gentlemen ( tin. Disraeli -
the strongest terms those Russian proposals-(hear, hear) -
in the port of London, from the following ports, bp°
n says these circumstances were the opposition of France. and even went so far as to say that, rather than admit
_____the 9th to the 15th July, both inclusive.
sa." The noble lord at the head c f the Cove nment says no
ht, head of ' r terms substantially corresponding with those proposals, it -.._____----n•
us such thin. (Lord Palmerton-" No.") The noble torn would be better avowedly to have thrown over the third • ,
el ne • . n , es
to says "No " Then it was the opposition of France? (Lord point altogether, and confess your ina.b.lity to deal with 8 .9 41 -r. 0 it 0
• Palmerston-' I did not say so.") This is a sample of the ie.
ue. (Hear, hear.) I must confess that having thoee em-
ambiguous phrases of the Governneent. • (Cheers.) When a 4
Ind phetic words. of my noble friend fresh in my recollection,
the right hon. gentleman (Ur. Disraeli) says that these.....---
ion it was with considerable surprise I read the letter I find in
circumstances were the opposition of France, the noble -- - ]so' - - - 014,00
tes-
ory lord denies that fact. Now, however, he denies his de- the Bth page of these despetches, in whieh Le, on his own Colchester
part anti on Hen of the French Minister, proposes to her Harwich l5l - 150 - ' - - '-
the vial. But I say, if it is not the opposition of Franca, we Majesty's Government certain plans for the settlement of Leigh - - - 40 - , ene
this have a right to know what it is. (Cheers.) We have bad the question. I have no doubt* but that most members of Malden 829 -- 200 10 78 -
_Lynn'
vial two sets of papers placed upon the table, the 13th and the this bowie have read those papers, and shall not therefore
15th. The 13th set were placed upon the table previous to
-but read them further than that portion at page 8, in which KIRKOALDY-JuLY 16.
lby the 24th May, and they were intended to afford to this
.my noble friend says-" If other hope is lost, I wi'h to Wheat. Barley. I Oats. 1 Beans.
but house information upon the subject of the cenferences• propose to the conference the following plan. The French First
Din they afford the slightest information with regard toed
that Minister is favourable to it. Austria will not support Second - A
either the conduct of the :noble lord the member for the
my • any demand for cession of territory." And then he pro- Third 7os Od 1 34s Od I 2•Ss Od lOs Oh
, City or of the Austrian Minister ?. Then, I. say again, that
we, i seeds to detail the plan, which hail precisely the same
is in the noble lord at the head of the Government has proved basis as that which my noble friend subsequently con-
-bee iti fault, for it was from his hand that these papers came. COAL MARKET.-JULY 16.
damned in this house. (Hoer.) This is not a question of
c't.i't And I want to know who else is with the noble lord-I ' the terms proposen by Austria, this is a distinct proposal Prices of Coal per ton at the close of the market.
hich want to know who are the traitors in the cabinet? (Hear, from the British 31Mister, and it appears to me to re-
in
Gene.r.a.l.p..o.si ,
Liver:Olt,
s. d.. 0, a'
hear.) I want to know what is the opinion of the right commend to the Government to . accept terms which in
then
hon. baronet the Home Secretary upon the case ; I want Bate's West Hartley 16 9 Wallsend, tro. 15 6
That
every substantial point agree with those of the Russian
That to know the opinion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, plenipotentiary. The bases upoc which Russia wished to Cookson 's Hartley l6 0 Leverson 18 3
and what is the opinion of the First Lord of the Admi- Elasting's Hartley lB 3 Riddell
relitproceed were-no limitation with regard to the fleet, but 19
raltv his my sincere) belief that they coincined with the
the • • leaving unlimited discretion to the Porte to cell in these- Howard's West Hartley Belmont n 1 0
noble lord when he returned from Vienna. I say Netherton lB 0 Lanibton •
not sistanee of her allies. It was proposed that the general rule , le 9
des- 'that so. far from having an undivided cabinet, we have one of closing the straits should be meint tined, but that it on 'd e's Wet Heinle 18 3 Eden Main •.,,•,,........., ........ a
which is not carrying ou the war with their whole heart should rest with the discretion of the Porte to say when 11'kurgritfihellgerey
rs of'Vibe it ell .18 3
and mind, for they are divided among
.themselves, and a the rule wad to be relaxed, and that the relaxation,' when Moor Butes 15 6 w .................. 00 6
be aHartley .y 16 9"t rt' ......... 2l 1'
great number of them agree with the noble lord. Lot us Grey's West Hartley l7 Ft Caradoc . ....... .... 0ne..." 6
Debi- it took place, should be considered as forming no ground of -
And remark what has occurred in connection with this war. complaint on the-part of Ruseian Here is a pl.m that, with wylam •,....17 6 South Hartlepool ........ 20_ 0
After the declaration of war, until I gave notice of the mo- the exception of one or two p Buts, is exceedingly like the . Cares Merthyr ........... 6
nets- 16
lieu for the Sebastopol committee, before the world there Wallsend, Ste. Evenwood
reeks Russian. It provides that France and Great Britain shall
patch was unity in the Cabinet. Everybody believed the Go- Gosforth lB 3
send in their ships in conformity with the desire of the
. vernment was of one mind ; everybody knew that they Ships at market... 40 (Sold
mousSultan, and without any complaint on the part of Russia.
were carrying on the war as well as they could. When I
y ex- That, I believe, is the material point of both plans. There
gave that notice the noble lord the member for the City of
nOW may be minor points, but, as far as regards the great fea-
London disclosed the-fact that they were 'a divided cabi- SEABORNE MAILS.
came .
. .
net, that they had been divided from the beginnehg of the tures, I believe.that both plans are practically the same.
Both were founded on counterpoise • and, if anything, my es
)oli.ey war upon the conduct of it in a most material matter, the
n Cll, noble friend's proposition was more limited and less favour- is •
which appointment of a war minister. The next result was the able to the Ottoman Government than that which was put by
giesttfles that the malls are sent from the General p05t4431
breaking up of the Aberdeen Administration. The next , night-and Mby the morting lespatch.)
pled. forward by the Russian plenipotentiary. There is another i -----------
, that was the appointment of the Sebastopol committee, upon question which I wish to present to the house, with respect
which the three gentlemen behind me (Sir J. Graham, nay wean ma le up pre. ao, at Wit','„
conchto the position in which I was placed during the late die- de, ;d,
Mr. Gladstone, and Mr. S. Herbert) quitted the Govern-tat be cussion. It will be seen that Ido not take the same view Office, London.* ntspatche i , FP55.„.....
meat of the noble lord. The moment they left, it turned • COUNTRIES.
fromof the papers as the right hon. member for-Buckingham- --..
out that they were the peace party. We never learned
ini°g that ' • • • '
while they were in the cabinet. Then came the - Jour shire, and I invite him to listen because I think I can find emericartrynnt.packni gvery Friday .... Liverpool 'E,"'"
an answer to the charge ho has made against the Govern- .i.mtifiCP,kby United Sts. July IS •
tae of nay of the noble lord to Vienna. We all know that the packet) ...........,NI
.knot ment. The plan of the noble lord was formed by him from
noble lord loft here with a certain blemish upon his repute-
:louse Vienna on the 16th April, and not acted upon, I presume, "um" (by ''' 8""es
packet) ..........N .. • • ...... Southampten
lion ; his mind was soured by Parliamentary defeats. At
e the until the 18th, but on the 18th he wrote a most important anstratia (via South-
Vienna they gave him the sweets of flattery, with which letter, and in that letter he stated to his Government that ampton) ..........M
hem." he was intoxicated. When he came back the strong breezes it had' been agreed between him and the other plonipoten- Ditto (via Marseilles) N
'sues, of P• rile eatary,opposition blew upon him again-again
1 have 4' m tiaries to adopt a certain order of proceening at the next Ditto (via Cape of Goad ' rtaia
iTnce
he changed. ' He came here and made that warlike speech.
e beenmeeting of the Conference. It was this :-1. That the Rope) - ••• •• • • -14 93d f the th ': • Jul)_ 6
This roused the anger of those whose tool he had been at attics (West Coaat)..N . 0............................ s;iymutholuiPt°: "17
I"
t from plan of limitation of numbers agreed to in London should kie.,uidria..........N .i, 9, 24,& 30..0f..r0..
Dover __••••
..
t.g...
lo
Vienna ; they disclosed what had been the circumstances
For allbe first proposed, and be supported by Count Buol. 2. That- Ai,,,,, • 4th & 20th of Mob: Isputerigje.p.tOn
of his conduct. This was again the consequence of Perlis-
ae sub- it shout! be proposed that Russia and Turkey, by mutual Bahamas ...........m 17th of the month ge,thaniptoo
of ts 4, mentary action. Tire noble lord then turns out to be. a,Dain ,
agreement, should maintain reciprocally a force no Belgium •••••• •• • • • • •14 9"thalloYiii; -
peace minister. Again, a curious consequence of Perim-
e only larger than that which shall remain to Russia at the end Brazil.- ...........•M _ , _ mouth., Southampton 1 • 10
mentary action. Now the noble lord says he changed hisFluenos Ayres - .... - M 9th co me month.. soushireareelAuft • ...fa
iscour- of the' war. A list to be drawn up, and the convention re- •Cape of Good Hone ..N Various port, Ulu/ II*"
A mind after he returned from Vienna, and in consequence , farina to in the treaty tohave the same farce as if it formed nape of Good Slope ..14 •
y an" he came down to the house. The hon. and learned mern- part of the treaty. Ships of war of the allies to be admitted Cape de Verde ......N 9th of tb2 month Southampton
terms bur here took from his•seat a copy of a daily paper, from
have into the Black Sea in liroitednumbere, not exceeding for Ceylon (see India) -
Lwhich apparently he was about to read an extract of the
raised each half of the Russian force. 3. In case of the failure en ns'
Channel Isles ........N Mon.,Wed.,&Frid. Southamptou ,Tis
noble lord's speech. Being, however, called to order by Cep0n..............N
e lord • of .both of these propositions, he thought that bases of
Chili...- •• •• ........ai ad lir 17th of month Seuthamptol. ,
and the Speaker, he proceeded to tear away that portion of
80, peace might be foundin the following conditions :-A gene- China ... .
l I Le- the paper containing the speech; upon which ral engagement to respect the integrity of the Turkish em- Constantinople ......a 8,13,18,230 am ot in D0ver......
of the The SPEAKER said the hon. member was doubtless pire,_ on behalf of each of the Powers, and-against any one Censt.uninopie , 4th & 20th amen. Jouthaniptonir ~ viadall
ister ? aware that, by a standing order, it was not allowed that of them which should violatethis engagement, Aprovision Cont. of Europe M& N Twice dailY •• •• • • Dover •• • • l'
riAi,
any member's speech should be read from the report in a that the closing of the Dardauelles and Bosphorus should Egypt (see India) _ Twice _ _ I. r,,,,,,
totally newspaper. Such being the order, the hon. member was continue to be the rule, With the exception that Powers daily., ...... Dover .. • • '- 20
bY my net acting within it, althoughlie tore the speech in queition which have not establishments in the Black Sea may be Inibanraleete.r.:..:l.M..",.MN •4, 7,17, 20,27 ofrn southamptn a' telll -
•scales- Greece (see India) ... 16
. But out of the newspaper. admitted by the Sultan to the extent of half the number Greytown ..........Ml2nd & 17th of mon. Sonthamptoo P.,*
, Cabi_ Mr. ROEBUCK resumed-I will . then, sir, state from maintained by Russia for each power. The third of these Hamburgh ..........N Tuesday & Friday London .••
nun, memory the purport of the noble:lot-die speech. The house plans was that which was called the Austuian proposal, tlavannah .......... m 2nd of the month Southamptoo/A uto 1
'ia Or
en un- will excuse me if Ido not state it quite correctly, since it and which had the sanction of my noble friend. Well. Holland ............M Dai1y...... . 'Dover ....... ..,... JO
ilondaras . ..m 17th of the month. Southampton •)41.,,,, 16
hat his is through its own rules that lam forced to have recourse this letter was received by Lord Clarendon on the 21st of India (viaSouthampt.)M 4th & 20th of mon. Plymouth •• I•,:.°'
myself to so treacherous an instrument. On the 7th July the April, ann in the closing passage of it my noble friend India (via Marseines)m iethte 25th of month Dover ......1
noble lord came down to the house, and he was asked by a says, " Should the Government of her Majesty, in concert lonian Isles (see India)l7, 17, &27 of mon Dover.... •• , „igenillf,
right hon. gentleman whether he had chanted. his opinion, with that of France, be of opinion that such a peace can be Ireland .....,..M & N Twice daily ...... Holyhead ..,T4 • 0
id doesmahnn•••••• •••• ••••m 7,0, 17, & 27 of m. Southampton AO
The answer w.,s-" I certainly thought that, although this accepted, they will instruct Lord Westmorelad accordingly.
quence Madeira ••• • - ...... Al 9th of the month Southampton), 10
plan of counterpoise was infericr to the plan of limitation If not, I hope to be allowed to be heard personally before
City ofMadeira ...... ....N 23d of month •• - Liverpool ... Al 4 •
which wehad yet that it would. be a mode of a final decisionis made." This appeal for a personal hear- netts (see India)
aof sir- advocated,would b honourable to the allied ing was received at the Foreign-office on the 21st of April,
concluding the war that 3 . . . traits
............ _le 8,18, &28 of mon. Dover ......•
ourable April there was written Mauritius (see India)
powers, and would give, I will not say a certainty, but a but on that very same 21st • ofere was aMauritius
fair promise of the duration of peace. That was my opi- letter from the Foreign-office, not professing to take any . N 14th of the month
Mexico ..... .. .. .. .. .. .. . .Mlnd of the month.. jSoathanraten Ail g' I
nion. The right hon. gentleman asks me whether I have notice of the appeal from Vienna, but dealing with his plan, Naples ....7 „.......N;sthlsth2sthormon.lDover ......i
[refusing changed that opinion. I have not changed that opinion." condemning it in the strongest terms, and esappears to me , New Granada ......M '2d & 17th of month tiouthampton! 000
no use That being the case, and the facts being known to the col- entirely disposing of-it. If gentlemen will read the letter New Zealand .......... By private skip .. Various port, 1103
ereis no leagues of the nettle lord, they must have heard with won- at page 12, dated .21st of April, and founded on Count Papal States .. - N sthlstheathonnon. Dover ......
'sue the der what his statements were. The noble lord at the head Colloredo's despatch of the2Oth, they will see as appears to Peninsula .. n •.....M 7thl7th27thofhton.lgouthampton
Peru ..............M 'hi & 97th of mon.jsouthampton di,'
circum- of the Government might well have said with Heloise, me, that this Aus.rian proposal. was rejected not in May or
Port Natal ...... • . N;Ry private ship ....Various ports Vl°
his opi- "Saints would wonder at the vows he made ;" but the June, but in April. Lord Clarendon expressed in strong 5.c..,
iii _ ~, .„,, ,„ „, „N Stlitaili2sthotraoh, Dover .... .•1
oof re- saints of the Treasury bench have ceased to wonder at the terms the surprise-end regret with which he listened to the Tuscany ...„ Nyithiso2sthohnon.Dover ...... 16
circum- statements of the noble lord. Did not the noble lord tarn Proposal, tad all through his letter there are expressions of itenezneia ..... Mad* 17th olmonth'Southampton •110
eld have round upon the arguments of Mr. Gladstone? Did he not the strongest condemnation. Now the point I wish to put, Van Diemen's Lald (see
al them object to the very things to which ,he had agreed at and upon which I wish to be corrected if wrong, is that
_Ai:net:ante) •... .• - • _ _.,,, V
in or did Vienna ? Had he not shown how futile was the security this letter was written on the 21st of April, the very day Weil incues •
...... -5,1 244 17th oi month iSouthampton .Tro.,
.„.„-•
.....- ,e,
!lo lord offered in these very propositions? Shall we then say, upon whichtheproposals were received, and was in point of 111 14 is
) cannot after that, that this house has any right to have confidence fact a complete rejection of the plan of counterpoise. But ~ When any of these dates fall on a Sunday, the mails weed.
~,,,
ister to in the noble lord or any of his colleagues? I say no to there are-two Austrian proposals. If you refer to the able spatched on the following day, with the exception of the iu, ~ le
that is that question-(hear, hear)-that the conduct of the noble papers of Count Buol you will find that the proposal for Southampton), and tho Malta. both of which will be despatcher
preceding day.
not the lord has been such that it shakes the confidence of the counterpoise stands second, and that the first contained the
•
ed with world in the whole of political society. Truth and proposal which the British and French plenipotentiaries • rlil
ors pre- honour amongst public men may now be considered as refused to entertain. That proposal consisted of simple [Anveneisemmee.]-Medicine always aggravates chronlini
spirit of nought • for what can truth be but a clear statement counterpoise, and admitted limitation, which was io the eases, such as dyspepsia (indigestion), habitual constipso.o
picas at of that' which has occurred, not palming upon any- first instance to be arrangers between Russia and Turkey, nervous, bilious, and liver complaints, &c., but pa`, 10.
g reply? body false suppositions and false conceptions of and subsequently incorporated in the treaty. How did Go- delicious Revalenta Arabica Food invariably cures th en se'
mmniai- actual facts? What did the noble lord do? Did he not vernment receive that letter? I have shown you that one very short time. We extract two out of many thousolgef
t receive come down to the house? Did he not persuade us to *be- plan was refused on the very day of its reception, and the pressions of gratitude from invalins :a-From the De"eetef
as so we lieve that he himself was not only then a steady supporter other it appears to me was considered equally inaclmiseiblee Countess of Castlestuart. Cure 52,612.-Rosstrenor, :iner
in, when 0/ the war, but that he always had been so? I say, Sir, I hope the right hon. gentleman will k•ep these things in of Down, Ireland, December 9, 1854. The Dowager C
~° 4 bil,'
it had he that the noble lord by such conduct has not done his duty view, and admit that this and the other proposal were dealt- of Castlestuart feels induced, in the interest of sufferreepio' •
wee Pro' in this house to this country, to truth, or to honour. with in a summary manner.. (The right hon. gentleman manity, to state that Du Barry's excellent Revalenta A',l,e-; Cir
t, or not, Sir G. GREY-As the motion of the hon. baronet is to here quoted Lord Clarendon's despatch, and continued.) of ti' ''so
Food has-cured her, after all medicines had failed, tee'
which But it is not these transactions alone that require explana-
be withdrawn, I should not have thought it necessary to tion, bile, great nervousness and irritability of nialierer6,'
Y say anything, had it not been for the assertions pointedly lion. I wish to refer to others which took place in this standing. This food deserves the confidence of all seed) er
Mt reply made by the hon. and learned gentleman (Mr. Roebuck) house. If lam right, these two proposals were condemne and may be considered a real blessing. Inquiries "-nen
r for the on the 21st and 24th April. Their rejection was not com-
-without his having adduced one fact in support of themcheerfully answered.-Trevagler, Gulval, near Penzarteetaen'
on, cone- -that there were members of the Cabinet who thought municated to the house, a thing of which I should not 20; 1851.-Eighteen years nervous debility, violent Tors pig
uence of •
that the Austrian proposal brought -by my noble friend -complain, if something were not communicated which led tiou of the heart, throbbing of the temples, violent Ps 13,
ling, be- (Lord J. Russell), and discussed in the Cabinet in the first to a contrary conclusion. 04 the 21st May a question was to d
tire left side and back, shortness of binath, cough, 111! en,
at be ac- put to the first minister of the Crown by my right hon.
week in May, ought to be adopted. He has done me theof the extremities, cramps, spasms, flatulency, retelnie;i
' a day- honour to call upon me by name to state whether I was friend near me, and his answer was that all means of solo- such general weakness, that I was consequently foal's-feat'
accepted ono of those members, I decline to answer theaquestion lion were not exhausted, that Austria had made fresh pro-•
as posals with a view to p.eace, and that such proposals, when. fag when on my legs, all these symptoms have been rem° LAS'
ere ea"' of the hon. and learned member. In this country, if I,nene,
Du Barry's excellent R,evalenta Arabica Food.-Menn 0,,,. esee
presented, would receive the most careful consideration.
a member of a Cabinet, in my speech, here or elsewhere, In canisters, 11b. 2s. 9d.; 21b, 4s, On 51b. lls. ; 1-4 139.11.1
had expressed opinions, or had done any act calculated to (Hear.) But answers had been previously sent to Vienna The 121 b carriage free, on receipt of Post-office order, 'ti'
mtaining throw suspicion upon the sincerity of my conduct, I should Government, committing •, at A'
by the them to the rejection of - Du Barry & Co., 77, Regent-street, London ; also eteenn •
neat
will have felt that any hon. member had a right to call upon the Austrian proposal. (Hear.) Looking from my own Piece.dilly ; 60, Gracechurch-street; 330, and 451, P4reetic
shall find me for any explanation of what I had said or done, and to point of view, I think I have a right to complain that we 4, Cheapside ;60 and 68, Cornhill; 49, Bishopegate-5 ebe,
ire being require me to vindicate my conduct. But when the hon. were allowed to debate this proposal as if it were still an 55, Charing-cross; 54, Upper Baker-street; 63 eu PP'
it length and learned member alludes to circumstances which have open question. (Hoar, hear.) We came to the discussion Camden-town; 18, Apr.
Oxford-street; 89, High-street, A ,
tenement no existence, save in his own imagination, I say that I
in the full
in belief that Austria, England, and France mall; 7, Pall-mall-East; 132, New Bond-street; 2,',eaoter
profound should demean myself in the face of this house and of the the negotiation. We had before us papers
were at one comb-street ; 13, King William-street, City ; 30, Vn"
that it is country if I attempted any answer to his observations. in which it was stated that Austria had rejected the Rue- street; 21, (lockspur-street ; 95, Farringdon-street
we were The papers are now on the table showing the result of the had taken si...n pp posals, but we did not know that a diplomatic Paul's Chnechyarel :6, Edward-street, Portman- Pcius___;,,/
jest, and deliberations of the Cabinet with reference to the Austrian and
eruptiou had taken 'place between England France
k a - ques ou the one side,and Austria on the other, although
proposals, and the reasons that induced the C ebinet's re- that was ._ in
ltisttir, jection of them are also on the table, expressed by his noble was a vital element the consideration
of the case. BIRTHS.
'• Whet frieud the Secretary for Foreign Affairs in language which (Hear.) What I want now to know this, is whether it does OP A BON.. ...al
..... P"-
matie,de-
I think has elicited the universal approbation of this house, not stand on th , papers that the rupture had taken place,
On the 16th inst., at No. 14, Park square, Ds.'
wereL in- except those who think absolutely that the war ought to whether the Austrian proposal had not been discussed and
Hansard. tll°
E,'" was be terminated and peace restored. (Cheers.) I feel bound reJ •
ected by Government, or whether there was any reason won, •
will know by those papers, as the record of the opinions of the Gibi- proposal to make ? I
to believe-that Austria had another
wife of Mr. Wm. Edgar, jun. ed,
,usi nearly net. As a member of 'the Cabinet lam responsible for know that there are great difficulties in the case,but
On the 15th inst., in Maddox-street, Mrs. G. 1/1"
as ut9arly
its acts, and 1 deny the* right of any member of • think we ought to have all the facts before us before vie re- / le
id of the this •house to bi.ing farwar.l without proof the argument some the discussion on thisquestion. (Hear, hear.) OF A DAUGHTER. CO
loeutnent that I, in my individual capacity, bold opinions differing The motion was then withdrawn. . Glo
On tho 15th inst., at 9, Devonport-street, 0,
" house, from those of the majority of niv colleneretee. The right The Public Offices Extension Bill passed through com-
square, the wife of John Gregory Forbes, Esq. cue •
isttee.
Hon, gentleman opposite did, Ithink, .somethiug of the mi On the 14th inst., at 9, Portland-place, Lower
t there i
s') Sb-,I • •1
I h It 1 tle '
,s, same kin( w len e c area( , e teneerninen , .1%
t nth using • Thenitereliarit Shipping Act Amendment Dill was read Mrs. Joseph IT. Garwood.
'OCI a.m.,a third time and passed.
ambiguous language respecting the , , eeseendence which
.a for his has 'laidbefore ' ' e'' t be says that he STATE CARRIAGES DUTIES, &c., BILL.
been
330 cr
structions The house having gone into committee upon this bill,
is in posseesion of private informatiou from sources not On the 14th inst., at the church of Allhallows , p_.,
,went :ap- accessible to this house. On the strength of that inf orma- The CHANCELLOR •of the EXCHEQUER, being
city, D. Cubitt Nichols, Esq., of Heathcote-streennenv
luestnins• e. Parliament, to much pressed, consented 10 withdraw the sixth clause, re- • alel'"
• ion he takes upon himself, in his place in lenburg-square, to Marie, second daughter of G, Doe
at on the affirm that there was a time when noble friend at the )sting to benefit building societies, upon the understand,
my Esq.,of T• 't uarer Tower-Mll.
run y-sq , e
-, 1, 1301A010
n shall bein favour of ing that next session the subject should be investigated by
head of the Government expressed his opinion
On the 14th inst., at St. Pancras Church, 0 e•ri, to Ag4.l
-the man these Austrian proposals. Sir to that general statement a select committee. Quick, Esq., of Chalcott Villas, Haveretock-131, es, n
lin suer ofconsidered -I The Turnpike A ate and Turnpike Trusts Arrangement
that there was a time when 'Cabinet •1 r
the coon( ee- am Catharine, eldest 1 nehterof the late Thos. Jon
ine, sr• 4, ,
has been in that of the Govern. Bills were read me tin, ne ti tee and passed.
not speaking in my own name, but of Chester-place, Regent spark.
. and reli- ment-when the Cabinet consideredthat the Austrian The Slave Trade (Shah:a-el Bill passed through corn-
,esol
-the man proposali might bethe most unqualified mittee.DlED.
eded. with - - ' accepted, I gave
,eenn"
Officers Qualification Bill was read a third On the 16th Hill, E f Stanben r,
contradiction. (Hear.) The project alluded to was no The-Militia inst., John eq., 0
eat a man . ra).
doubt considered in the Cabinet and here I must say that time and passed. . Hyde-park, aged 85. lac"
ight meet I heard with r t the p made by my noble friend The Grand -Juries Ireland (No. 2) Bill was read a se- On the 16th inst,, at 10, Kensington-square,
are,
at, in his the member forgre 8-
eech
London on the 6th because the statements coed time and passed. Cotton, Esq., aged 73. il egu
ay his pan- .0e...
in that speech were most unjust to' m noble friend him- The Lunatic Asylums (Ireland) Advances Bill went On the 13th inst., at 6, Keppel-street, itgs no
ur and the self. My noble friend broughtthe yhome
propositions from through committee pro forma, for Ile purpose of being •Francis Valentine, Esq., aged 81. &le
Del
aeping the Vienna,with
having pr.;viou.iy requested that they might not repriuted wit,
he rennin,' without 1 • hating beard in their de-
Iris been . The SOLICITOR GENERAL moved the second read- Blanc, aged 79. Cr
lord et the , f.,,,,,e. y - • r.4'l ' - f ) I. in, of tee Leinee. anti Sales of Seneti Bill and
- Ile propoisitions illero ( ist.us.ea oeittio _,ao wee. - „. , - ~. Instates, 1 ..,....., ~,..,
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MARRIED. Tt OP
On the 14th inst., at the church of Allhallows ---,s)jel
city, D. Cubitt Nichols, Esq., of Heathcote-streri,bis° '
lenburg-square, to Maria, second daughter of G-.'''' 00
EOn sq., of Trinity-squarer, Tower-hill.
the 14th inst., at St. Pancras Church, John to A"
~
Quick, Esq., of Chaleott Villas, Haveretock-hillt s SA
ih
Catherine, eldest tnghter of the late Thos. .14:1e '
of Chester-place, Regent's-park.
DIED. 'Jet
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On the 16th inst. John Hill, Eeq., of Staub°,Tre- a P
Hyde-park, aged 85.' lor GPI
On the 16th inst,, at 10, Kensington-square, .--1
Fl23Valentine, oioafe'
sl93lPhaginedst7..at 6, Keppel-street, Ett'oB- ,ye
Esq., aged 81. Colonel
Cotton,Froanncit
On the 13th inst., at Clifton.down, Bristol,
C°l°
Blanc, aged 79.
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of No. Li 2, t;traad', i'rinter, at The Sate 0111044000
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1.11t,I;l1,0114 of the•Cabitioi, e,ntcrthi jut() bilk) ii,oussiop, wl,O
the view of coming to the conclusion most likely to be con-
ducive to the interests of the country, and at the close of
the week I phould have been prepared to assert in ungna.

uleasure.
Lord SEYMOUR suggested that the bill should be re-
ferred to a select committee.
Mr, HENLEY could not concur in, the pringiPlefi Of the