The National Register.
London, England, 1819-12-26 00:00:00

OHI)NANCE ESTIMATES

Itle. 11. WARD 11101,4 d 11141 lite II oUre co into
lumuiltee of Supply to; the Otthittilte

Mr. I. W A 1.13 t bra mot cd, that 250,0001. be granted uu
arcuuat of the Oedwiher Servier.

Mr. IIUME had expected that there would he tome
reduction. e>pecially after the FllLtate Reports; bet
instead of reduction there ww iocreube.

AlfeCt: ete‘

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Mr. IL WAR') replied, that dila was not the fit .•ppo►-
tuuity for discussion. W him the Ordausster Rstentutes rame
regularly heroes. the (louse, thus he should be prepared to
ao hod the questions at large.•
Beau ut weeders.
hl A N CIIFATER CORRESPON!M!/CF.
Mr. CALCR AFT risked whether there would he any
obi...lion to produce the Government mower to the Man-
chester Mneistrates letter rimed Jul) I.
Lord CAS r LER Empi said he was not prepared to girt,
sin) answer, but he would tu•ntorrow.
ARMY EBl* IM ATEA
_

The report of the Army Ettermttes won p mired.
Alt. Olt ES FELL asked whethe► th re would be any
saving Nettle ittlul Mildley College?
Lord PA Lmi.its-roN bad Nut ,rt got the Entitte.r, •
to ode op, l.or:he thought Hu re would be a ',vial of V,bol)
Report agreed to.
TIIE MEW Ml.ltt.

Lord STA Nl.lVioreiwilted it prtilitmfrom Henry Tidier,
ear►)lug oil bUillit lb Hi Liverpool and vn clout other
citpietoint his alarm at the Hills before the Home, n, they
were calculated to destro) his trade of ►heap 111301htle• liu.
Read and ordered to hr printed.
Mr. W. SMI 111 presence. . a petition frum the RntrkseHere
of Briool, setting forth, thnt•lf the proposed Bills 'tattled,
men of capital and character ruold out sou ltatr 111 Cit
Wit Oldrrtd to he printed.

Mr. HIHCH pri•seattd a t.soeilar pnfilioo from the nook.
sellers so Livi ri I.

Mr. BERN AI. iire..nted • ihirprlition from re imra
mid Publ i,lies of Vosadm. ii AIN swi4l.h.milmod.
N l'A 1:1( l'A3lllO DUTIEN.
Ou the motion, 11141 thy NeNfliiii.er Swoop Dotict
be committed,

Mr. 31AuDitg,U,D opposed the Bill, which gave nu.
usual power., and foriber rounded the liberties of the
'Press. The existing laws had out been entureed I—but
the powets to put down irreligion and sedition had been
inefficient in use hands that 'low gentled thou. What had
enabled this titulary to millet e. co 11111111, bat the public
press 1 Andel the people's liberties were to be cotton.
as a reward for the prlvAtluils they had utiles gone, would
they not loathe those virt.niea which had aerninplislied to
much ; after so much outlet ing and war In put down that
man who had been raised to t minence liy their aggression•.
that individual's defeat became a tinsmith, when noels
daring iiirmsds a pre nernle upon the public I
het ties of the
ei 11111 l Tire Bill before them contained must Elm ing
provisions, 111/11Ir lastly that which required set:otitis*
Inlore publiration. An Euglishenan was at liberty to
publish what lie pleated, tem.:Ging, however, ans•eetable
tor his publications. Hunt iti the spirit of ultra Toryism,
they were relerred to the Roman Ktiguerois anti the Jwti.
nlall Code for a defitittion of public lioerly. He would
never agree to such regulations ; the much rrepuliterous
species of censorship was that of money. It wag the
measure of one, much of whose lib had been passed in
imposing restraisits Noun the suture, ; butt till lie heard It
flout the individual's own month, he wool(' not believe
that it had the approbation of a Hight Hon. Member so
eminent for his literary talents ',Mr. ) Tin y. had,
heard of the " Republic of Letters." Were those empty
words? No. They loath substantial meaning, all 'totem:
had the freedom of poblication--puor as well as ricli—but
pats this Bill, and (lira there would be an ari•toesatie
mil.:tion establi►hed. 'flip rich might publish, the fn.'n
with filled pockets; hut !he poor man would he dein ived
of the opportunity of dissipating the mists heist might cloud
life bitch. Could the Manse intend to make such laws,
sack inroads upon the Cunslittuien ? The new gull •
was still more server, eapecinHy the Banishing
which would expose an individual to be limited through
Europe, without being able to find all 11%)IIIM tiny alit re.
The laws were sufficiently strong, and Jttrit. never
*voided giving just vet diets; they sometimes step
between pro•El•letlirll and prosacitted, when they saw Go-
vernment and I.sw °Meets going too tar. Tbongli the
low mud giutelling ;tuitions of the pit as have disgtat•tll
themselves, he conjured the House to renumber what the
press had done fot the ecology, anti 111 ;maid its libel lit s-
wills scrupithitis mid religions Ire. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOK' denied that the Act wnii!il ap-
ply to aitilloss —it was to cheek tioptiotipled print cis and
publisheis. As to flue second conviction, it was to apply
to a second offence committed atter the sentence niu the
first charge.
Mr. GRAHAM called on the Halite to pause before the
Bill was assented to, aliiteling as it did their 'lrate,' tights.
He loathed the obnoxious publications as much as any
111411 could, fur lie could-not tinge, that the abuse 01 light
nfitirited pretexts for the lovers of at biliary power. fleet
he could not forget that chili ucr was, mot and kat
it woe nowise to support these ;immanent di times of the
law of the laud. It these measures Mete Cairn ii, he lie-
lueeed they a onld be fatal to all the liberties of the pie-s.
—(Hear, hear.)
After on extended discussion, in which Mr. Marrtxt,
%fr. Genumin, 1I r. Ihnikes, Mr. Aberermith%, Mr. f%
Mr. Alderman ‘f nit Minim stud Hr. Pliiilinotre took putt;
tae flume divided on the question whether the Hill shotuiti be
eolith

The Gaiety wns-rleared fur a division nt ekven o'clock,
bud the number nt re—A. eh 'ettt 15v Nl.jurii)

The llou.e then went into a I....ummitive ou the
Bill; in wLicit iLr several CLAIN'S wean di•eu.s.d, and
Lumeriiiii awrndnu i.t• prup,ne•d, to hull Writ all of them
ueotiveili The Ilunx I mimed, and the report aorta-it'd
to be brouglo up,.. morruu.
1 he 'Hasid. mou•aml Sedii juin. Libel Bill ttn•• ottli risil.lo
be rend a ercuud I enw tu•neanew.

Tic Mialealeanour Bill nus read a third time and paned.
Adjourned al one o'dm k.
TIitNDAV, DFC. 41.

The Nortetr 6.1. I light Bill was read a seeonil time.
M A lIIILRILY gave notice, that n 1.1110111% he
!Mould mute for Remelts of the pi °dare of the tteveene,
ru lee January last, tier moonlit ut Es Imetlmer Bills it—
teiveil for IterMIIIIP, lilt' 601411(.1's 111 the
111ABBEHLY then gave mince, that after time hod-
dins be should more for Ira se to bring iu a Bill io coo-
iimie the Illomitit s un 'Alien, the Act granting them
expiriog 'text.

Mr. LYTTLETON mere notice. that to-toto row be
al I I
uu-
skiltill parsons It ono practising As Coos u)ettet ts. He tools
the ',Non !unit) of Clog, that he sisuold too it. css the
set mid eit•litig till after the s. . .

LusiliNt.aos plesetsted Aceconis of the un-
load( d Duhis, a,:r.— Of cmteti to be
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCI I I QUER moved for
leave to lariat; itt a Bihi for the Lott( r secw log of the

DEC. 26.

numey belonging to Sniturli its the Exchequer. The t.uh•
ji et lA*llll Or gs Cid 111111011811 re, 41111 ail po.•ibietß./rt+had
Leen made to 1111/Clllp the 11111 10 be made a. siei lect it •
; hot he did nut wilh to press the Bill with pe-
cnhar given, and Bill ultiorwarils hiulaght
•Itt.

Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time
to-tnorrow. .
... . . . . .

BENNETT care notice, that Rl'lel the hulidaye hr
111•111$1 moce lit It are to la in n Bill to incapacitate
the holders of certain sioeciiie Mikes trout Marla% seats
in that lonise.
la t. CALL HAFT ask oil whether the Noble Lord would
pittance the Government mists( r to the Matochester
-goat-ales letter ut Jots l.&t•.
Lord CASTLEREAGH replied in the negative, the
jtliiilstera having laid all the letters, ace. un the noble
which they deigned necessity, :mil on n II they
grounded the proceedings before Pat tiailmilt.
Mr. I:AM:RAFT gave suptier, that oiler the holidays
be should move for the piuductimi of auch aura a it.—
(I fear, hear!)
Lord A. HAMILTON forego move for the revival of
• the Couta•ittee or the Scotch Burels—vt motion to which lie
understood there would he no ohjecti 0000 . Ilear.) He saidt•
former ennui, ies had wan-acted all that lw had maintained
re'Petlin4 the id sere and ditgiti in. :chutes ill the Scotch
Burghs, especially the ham ful ineilite of self•rlecliuo. 11
hush the tendency to perlselillite what, Ver was wrung and
corrupt. Ile Jeined non, as lit ha l duce before, that his
ohject was Parliamentary Refit! in ; it w:is to correct the
abuses in the Burghs, If Return resulted from a camellia
of abuses, it would privet e l collate, Iv. net directly I ati el
surely he was uot io he denied improvement, Incense st II
(either improvement might he the collateral results Ile
concluded with asinine, that the itoyal Burgh Petitions be
referred to a Select Cominittie. _

Mr. DUNI) %Si said, hail It not been fur the obsersst-
lions of the Noble Loll, he mould not bare tronlikd the
House t bat in con.equelice of Cirmer success, the Node
Lord hod ant quite se.ttit on on the %abject. (A lanah.)
He mu•t den), that the enquiries had exactly proved all
that Ike Noble Lord had funnily thought or uttered It
"W.lll not sold that Reform uts‘ht not he accomplished col
laterally, U nut directly; sad dill the Hottae intend os
much?

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Lord CASTLEREAGH said, as there was to be an ob-
j•etion to the Committee, it was useless to tight a report
not yrt made.
After remarks from Mr. J. P. Grant, Mr. Forbes, &e.
the motion was e=rred to,and the Committee appointed.

The Neteryvaper Snoop Duty Rdt War re-Ci;iiiiiiitted,
after remarks from Mr. Primrose. tic. Martio.otc. and
rho Report was ordered to he received to-suorrovs.
The Libel 801 l war afterwards read a seenati time, and
ordered to be committed tn•morrow t after &ghee% the
other Orders of the Day •Iseiog disposed or, the House
adjourned.