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eluded with repeating his motion fee • select eenimittee
of inquiry.
Lord LONDONDERRY said, he should meet the MO.
lion with a direct negative. Meet of the espences were
annually brought before the home ; and although it
might salt the korsoarable twensber for Aberdeen (Mr.
Herne) 14 go over the estimates twice, be did not &essay
necessity for traueferrieg the execetive to a committee
above stairs. There had -been a contract with the Crown
respecting the civil list; and within the last s pion the
country bad gilded millions by the transfer of duties, doe.
ea use forming of such contract. The noble lord entered
into a defence of the policy pnrsaed by this smoky and
our present diplomatic system, and contended that the
indolence which England at present held in the scale of
Europe. was as great or greater than ails had ever en-
joyed at any former period of one history.
Sir J. MACINTOSH strongly coodemned the system of
policy which the Government had adopted since the re-
turn of peace. He censured the principles of what was
called the Holy Alliance, and contended that either we
bad no influence as regarded the affairs of Europe 1 or if
we had, that influence the Government had most grossly
abased, and become a party to all the acts of the Holy
Alliance. This, lie contended, was almost proved beyond
contradiction by the Alien Bill, which the noble lord was
about to press upon the house at an early day.
Mr. ROBINSON defended the conduct of administra-
tion, and contended, that at present the votes of the house
and the espression of the country went to show that his
Majesty's ministers bad the confidence of both parliament
and the people; and if the house should once declare, by
their votes, that they had withdrawn their confidence, he
dusted he used no unconstitutional language when he said
his Majesty's present ministers would nut attempt to carry
on the business of the country any logger.
Mr. CREEVY supported the motion, and contended
that inquiry was necessary.
Mr. TIERNEY also supported the motion, after which
the house divided—Fur the modem. Ill—Against it, 274
—Majority in favour of ministers, 127.
When strangers were re-admitted, we found the Speaker
putting the question on kringing up the report on die
Catholic Peers' bill. The report was received, the amend-
ments in the committee agreed to, and the bill ordered to
be read a third time on Friday.
Adjourned at one o'clock.
TITISDAT. MAT 16.
Sir J. YORKE presented a petition from the Waterloo
Bridge Company against the Lambeth Roads Bill, praying
to be beard *Labatt the same by counsel, as it motorised
several clauses which, if pawed into a law, would be highly
Winkles to the company's interests.
Petitions were presented from the tanners of Tiverton,
London,Re.against the leather tax. Ordered to be printed.
Mr. BAGWELL presented a petition from the Grand
Jury of Tipperary, complaining of agricultural distress.—
Ordered to be printed.
Sir C. COLE presented a petition from Glamorgaeshire,
praying the revision of the present system of Welch Judica-
ture. The present system might have merits, bet the defects
completely overpowered them.
Mr. ALLEN postponed, till the 234 lost. his motioa res.
peeling the Welch Jedicatere,
Mr. G. BENNET brought in the bill to alter and mead
the laws regarding the Weiss* of ale-houses. Read •
first time, and ordered to be read a second t.me on Monday
nest, and to be printed.
Mr. C. CALVERT presented the report of the Bakers'
Trade Regulation Bill, and it was ordered to be taken into
further consideration on the 21st inst.

Mr. BYNG prevented a petition from freeholders of Mid-
dlesex, praying for leave to bring in a bill to amend the
laws on the subject of the county rate. Referred to a
committee.
Mr. R. MARTIN presented a petition la favour of his
Bill to prevent the ill treatment of the brute creation. The
bon member adverted to the " sports," as they were milled.
of the lower orders, though he denied that the mess of the
humbler classes partook in them l and he pat titularly con-
deemed the Westminster cock-pit—some sof tbe peblic fights,
bear-tinitiog, Ice. emendating some of the barbarities and
mischiefs that halresulted from them.

Mr. LOCKHART was disposed to slew this measure fa.
yourably ; for, though man had the command of the Orate
creation, be was to use them rationally.
The petition was from the inhabitaats of CamberwelL—
Ordered to be printed.
Mr. SYKES presented a petition from the guardians of
the pour of Hull. against the poor removal Bill. They coo•
'littered the hill bad in policy, and dangerous in experiment.
The hon. member said, he thought there was not one person
in or out (bribe Howse that was favouroble to the bill, except
itt hon. and learned mover (Mr. Scarlett.)
Mr. COKE pr. rented a petition from Freebridge, &e.
complaining of agricultural distress. They prayed for a
reduction of taxation and reform. Read and ordered to be
priuted.
Mr. LUSIIINGTON presented a petition from the mayor
and corporation of Canterbury against the Catholic Peers'
MlL—Ordered to he printed.
Ali. CHET W YNDE moved that the Vagrant Laws
Amendment Bill be recommitted.—Agreed to, and in the
committee some naiendinents were plopoNed and adopted,
ether remarks from Mr. Sykes, Sir C. Burrell, Mr. Bestial,
Mr. Ilobhoune, and Mr. Williams (Lincola.)
Lord J. RUSSELL moved for copies of the proclamations
i-sued by S,r T. Maitland in the lonian Islands, respecting
the war between the Turks and the Greeks.
Lord LONDONDERRY said, if is were ;Mended to
found uny motion on those papers he slwuld realil the
motion.

Lod d J. RUSSELL replied, that be had no intention to
submit any motion un the subject at the prevent tiro( t he
however would not 1:4 at some future period he aught
not call the aiteatiuq oh the Hutwe to the que.troo. Papers
ordered.

Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a petition from the
neighbourhood of Bath, sigued by about 620 pertains, praying
the House to adopt a tee on the Elighbh uh-eute,u. !le
thought it wits u pet lion I lint the of the E, ache.
goer might consider as intefferinr: with his particular pro-
vince. The petitioners culeulated, that, in Puts allonett
do re were 10,000 fatuities t shut coniauettng there were live
in each tinnily, there were 50,000 English there $ mill that
taking [lie averngn expense tit u guts-•a a day. iu the
British spent Il,Y50,000,• annually. (1 lear4iiiiti a Inugli.)—
that was the petit it.ners' stuteuteus. siml there was a strong
feeling out of doors [hut the üb.enters ought to tie made lib pay
their propos tinu of the taxes,—The tax would be a popular
one—oat that hr intended to propure its ndoptiun t and if
relief were to be grauted, the °roisters ought to luuk iu till
et. e. i ots to grunt it.

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Mr. RICARDO mid, that the bon. Barnet's court', sum's
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extraoldiaary. He who intredeced ibispetitiou supports'
• system of legislatioe that tended to drive away' persons.
for this systems was to make pretrial... dears he was fee
promoting high priers.—He (Mr ER.) was persuaded that
this eonutry might be made the cheapest to live In, by getting
rid of oar Cora Laws, sod by maklag ese great effort to get
rid of our lead of ;41. He knew that some viewed this
Deb...teas visioaary, bet he believed it pot to be such ; be
considered it practicable, by equitable toetribetions from
all *pecks of property—the land, tie mercantile interests,
fuedlittliers. Ike. Ile sasses. that gentlemen would Nos
see that she seem was what aught is be adopted. That
debt mast its some way be adjusted.
Mr. D. BROWNE spoke of the evils that bad melted to
Ireland an coosequeoce of absentees. The calamities the
aßicted the cautery were great, sad called ea those who
could provide remedies to propose them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER spoke
against the prayer of the petition. Serb a tax would sot
even be productive to the revenue, for din to the cal-
culations of the tax-office the mewed-lases lost about SOOJI.
a year by the absentees.
Sir I. COFFIN observed, that as to the naval °Seers
who might reside abroad, their poverty sad mot their will
automated.
Mr. W. SMITH denounced those laws which wrist to
prevent artisans from lgoing abroad as severe and tyreanows.
Many were seawalls' at home, and yet they wen to be pre•
vented from going is places where they Sight be able to live.
If they attempted to escape from starvation they were to be
drugged to prison. Petition presented, read, and ordered to
be printed. _ _ _

Swiss CANTONS.—Mr. WARRE. at Near DIM o'clock.
rope to bring furwa►d his promised osmium ►ega►ding the
Ambassador to the Swiss Cantu's. After the discussion
of the preceding night be need not make any extended re.
marks; he avowed that the specific o►ject of his motives was
to obtain a reduction of the expense. Up to 1783. then
miuisters to the Swiss Canto.. received 15001. a sear. Mr.
Brum. who fullowed,.reeeived 2501. a year; bat afterwards
the amount bad been greatly ratted. lie did not want toga
bark to 2501. but did desire that the scale of 1.192 should be

followed as closely as it could be. It was worth remarking
that only two or three years age the scale of 1792 was
scooted, but now the change of eirconostaaces and twice in- •
deiced many penes' to believe that the scale of 1794 was
deserving copying in many things. Till after the pewee
official moose were not required is Switzerland ; and at
that period a representative was required there to adjust se.
iodations respecting territory, the. These matters bavisqg
bees settled, be 'obsoleted that there was ow oceasioa fur say
resident their I and be would be mach obliged to an, body
who would tell him what possible business we could new
base with the Swiss Customs, to require as Ambassador
there at as enormous salary. As Mr. Causing's stay is
Switzerland, after the object of his mission having been
closed, it might be said, why was it sot noticed before ?
The truth was, many things escaped without bears noticed ?
and in 1819, in particular, gentlemen were more anxious
and were thinking More about what might happen out of
doors, than about forcer' ministers However, for twenty
mouths the mission remised means, and it was not filled up
till eegotiatious appeared to be going on with Como whom
be must now tall the noble Marquis's new silks. Rut his
objection was to the mission, sad not to the person who
occupitd it ; he objected to the mission having been reaew•-d
as unnecessnry. The hon. gent. *lieu moved • series of reso-
lutions. (All hat the last merely detailed the history of the
minim; from 1(30 down to this time, to the same effect as is
his speech.) Ts. the last resolution, however, be (Mr. W.)
begged the attention of the House, fur it IMO the only
substantial resolution which put the qu Ilion at issue. It
was," Time it appeared to the House that the 'epicenes of
the mission to Switzerland might, without detriment to elt•
public ',voice, be reduced to what they had been at the op•
pointment of Lord Robert Fitzgerald, and abet they had
been for one year and eight mouths preceding the ',remit
appointment to that station." (Loud cheers.) The boo.
member begged to explain respecting a sli,lht difference
between the expences of Mr. Wickham and Mr. Dishrowe.
It was not material enough to be noticed in the resolutios.
The SPEAKER having read the first resolution.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY complimented thl
temperate manner in which this motion had been brought
forward, and said that it afforded him a better opportu-
nity of stating why the government considered the recent
appointment advantageous to the country. The noble
marquis then proceeded to protest, as in last night's de-
bate, against the executive government of she cannery
being called on to divulge the policy which dictated their
appointmetits of ministers to foreign courts. America,
whose conduct was so strongly pressed on this govern-
ment as an example, (lid not act thus. but voted a certain
sum tube placed at the disposal of the executive, for the
purpose of foreign missions. He contended that a nil-
nister of the first rank was necessary to support the in.
fliience of this country with the government of Switeer-
land.eltliongli we wrue at preent at price. If any other
course were adopted, we might, on the breaking eta of
any future war, find some other power possessed of that
influence so essential to us. With !hie exploit:aloe lie .
would, after the discussion of last night, leave the quell-
lion in the hands of Vie house.

Lord NORM ANBY supported the motion, and in duinit
so, begged to be .utivratooil as no: at all °Wrenn" to the
individual minted to the situation, but to the appointment
itself, and to the salary attached to it.
Mr. %V A RRE replied.
'the first resolutions we►e then put, and Lord Lor don-
deny moved the previous question on each, which wee
eat tied.

Mr. TI ERN EY then said he would take the tense of the
floube on the 1.,t lan, and the galiery oa• norm Jingly
cleared fur a division. The number, ai re—For lir plain
resolution, 141-84ttintt for win siert, lON.
When we were again mho's; tt we (maid Mr. Goultati
addresteng the Howe, and IS •vtog (Or in a
Bill fur the better entio'o) meat 01 the pitor in 1, eland. •flue
plan proposed one to 1 I..ee u t•um lit moue, iu the hueds of
the Lord Lieutenant, to be expriiited iu public work., ia
the COllO Ca l t .0n of tua,l ,tC e.
After some oboe' vatioto, leave was given to bring in lb*
Bill. The utiler order, of the du) were di►puted uf, nod
!louse adjourned at half-past

FRIDAY, MAY
A petition 1,11111 pre*eint.4 Irma taunt Is, &c. of Shore-
ham, again-t the teal her tax.
A petition was presented from merchants in the parts
on the Clyde, pray Mg a revision of the bowfin; oy.trist.
A Wilton was presented INIU the same class at persons
(For.continualiuts ar page 1,13.)