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(used at the moment before the proposition was made, the
language of ministers would be " Why, you have been
provided for by the crown—you cannot refuse it now.
The provision liar been made for you, and you cannot re-
fuse it. It is therefore an acknowledgment of your guilt."
—(Cheers.) The lion. gent, then contended against the
arguments of Lord Castlereagh, and ridiculed the suspi-
cion of disaffection thrown out by hint, and the insinuation
that the Queen was giving encouragement to such a spi-
rit.—(The right hon. gent. was cheered repeatedly.)
Mr. B. BATHURST entered at some length upon the
subject of the Bill of Pains and Penalties.
After Mr. Brougham had addressed the House at con-
siderable length, the amendment that the House do ad-
journ was put by the Speaker, and negatived.
Commence OF Surexe.—The House having gone into
a committee of slimily, Mr. Brogden in the chair,
Lord CASTLEREAGH rose. The length, he observed,
at which the attention of the House had already been
called on this subject, and the many topics that
had been already introduced into the debate, rendered it
unnecessary for him to trespass much upon their time :
be would, therefore, without further observation, more
that the sum of so,osocti. a year be granted to her Ma-
jesty ; and whether this proposal met with her Majesty's
views or not, he fully concurred with the hon. member for
Bristol (Mr. Bright), that this, as • settled sum, should be
lodged in the Exchequer, to be ready whenever her Ma-
jesty pleased to call tor It. His Lord.hip concluded by
moving a resolution that there be granted to her Majesty
a sow not exceeding 50,0001. a sear for her life.

Ou the question being put, -
Mr. S. WORTLEY said, he was not now disposed to
snore au amendment, however widely be might indivi-
dually differ as to the amount proposed, as another oppor-
tunity would occur of introducing the subject; but he
did not think that he should have performed his duty if
he had not held out some of the language used in the
answers of her Majesty, he had almost said to the indig-
nation of the House.
Lord J. RUSSELL expressed his surprise at what had
jest fallen from the hon. member. It was to him matter
of astonishment that any man should reproach her Ma-
jesty on the ground now taken up, recollecting the severity
of the trials she had to endure. There was, however,
some precedent for the conduct pursued by the hon.
nsember for Yorkshire, and also for the language used by
a worthy alderman (Heygate) on a recent occasion. That
precedent he found in the time of Henry VIII. In that
reign the sycophants of the court were anxious to add
whatever weight belonged to them to the charges already
brought against Queen Catherine, and, among oihers, she
was accused by Cardinal Wolsey of having conciliated the
affections of the people : one accusation to that effect was
actually drawn up against her by Wolsey; it wan, that
" Whereas she ought rather to pray to God to bring this
matter to a good courinsiou, she seemed not at all serious;
and that she 'night corrupt the people's affections to the
King, site showed herself much abroad, and by civilities
and gracious bowing her head, which had not been her
custom formerly, did study to work upon the people."—
Now, could any man doubt that whatever might have
been Catherine's inclinations, she had other and strong
support besides popular favour: the Pope was ou her
side, as well as the Emperor Charles; but who was there
to whom her Majesty could appeal ? Her father had
fallen iu defence of his country : her illustrious brother
had yielded his life in the same honourable career. To
whom, could she look for support and assistance? He
maintained that it was a total want of all genernits feeling
to attribute it to her Majesty as a crime, she having I
wished fur the support of the people.
After a few words front ♦lderman C. Smith, which were
wholly inaudible in the gallery,

Mr. HUME admitted that the language in some sen-
tences of her Majesty's answers was strong, but it was
possible to put an improper construction even on the
Holy Scriptures, by reading them partially. If lie saw
■ny thing unconstitutional in the tenutir of those answers,
be should be as ready as any man to condemn it, but lie
thought it highly unfair to judge of her Majesty, and to
condemn her fur one or two expressions. More constitu-
tional doctrine,more sound morality, inure truly Christian
principle, than those answers contained, he (Mr. Hume)
had never beard expressed ; and lie thought that no
man, whose feelings were in unison with the trne spirit of
the Christian religion, could defend that persecution to
which her Majesty was subjected.
Lord STANLEY rose merely to ask a question of the
noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh.) In the event of the
demise of the crown, the Queen, the noble Lord appre-
hended, would have been entitled to a palace, or would
have had collie mansion assigned to her; such, at least,
had been the case with the late Queen. lit the proposition
of the noble Lord opposite, however, there had beau no
grant ()fa palace or mansion, nor mention of procuring
•ne.

Lord CASTLEREAGH said, by the treaty of marriage
between her Majesty and the present King, then since
of %Vales, her Majesty became entitled, upon the denu.e of
the crown, to 50,0001. a year, but not to any palace. 'the
palace possessed by the late Queen was nut given to her
by her marriage treaty, but by letters patent from the
Crews,.
Mr. it SUMNER was surprised that no one had yet
moved for an account of the sums advanced In the Queen
since she had been is, this country; and indeed her Ma-
jesty ought properly to have given the House some infor-
mation as to the manlier in which those ►ums had been
disposed of. He heard, not only from public rumour, but
from authority to which some respect was due, that the
Queen had not paid a single private bill since she had
been in England. There was note tradesman paid. The
House ought to know how the money had been disposed
of. If it had not been paid to those who were entitled to
it, perhaps it bad been paid to prompt all the processions
which had disquieted the country ; or to the ;tress, which
instilled its daily poison into the ears of the whole com-
mnuily. Giving to the Queen all the benefit of an acquit•
tal, he thought 20,0001. a year an ample income fur a
woman who had been IV years separated from her hus-
band : but he would go further. The litm. member then
moved, as an amendment to the original motion, that ass
income of 30,0001. per year should be wanted to her
Majesty
Dr. LUSHINGTON thought it a matter of regret, that
the bill of pouts and penalties had not passed trent the
House of Louis to an assembly whet e it might have been
discussed with all that temper, moderation, humanity,
and justice, which had so conspicuously adorned the
speech of the lion. Nlesuber for Siiiiey hsegh); the
lion. Member was the hest man is, that House who had