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. of blaml.money. Nothing
-1614 e. He was not brought there
-41 intended to give evidence, but Om-
-at in the Character of an exhibitor, so that if
. nne.even'of his most determined enemies, might
mire Icemen him, they might Mite spoken so to. his 7
ohastity, or as to the nature of his tronsuctions ;
• nor woo he Ix-might door's either for the purpose
of cesoferrieg.. silts Mini for, althnujilt he might
base been there, for aught I know, yet I neverineve
him, teeter rem him to wry knowledge,'nor never, of
• course, had any conference whetsmer with him.
No blame could, ther‘fore; attach to his Majesty's
knit „wk.% whir have only done their duty. This
is tlm Ift-t eittottetottiry I hive had peiliticly of de-
claring,thriaillect proposed h Oliver's present*
there,, hod thsve., therefore; token-it for the poems .
Pow sArTelitibutr. the unworthy ineittistions which
hare tsfa**latte relative to this part of thosetromaio. •
limn% Mete: 'moue pert of the conduct of his Major.-
ty'aGoverittritesit which it cannot in my mind he dig,-
colt to s defend, as lostg as there is any regard
.'uteri in this Howie for the morals of the mast of our
Itelltflation—.l mean the care and anxiety they MI.
lliik.A•ti to prevent the circulation of opioimat, eei-
taints, of the most libellous' character, •aird with re.
• sect to which all are of the same mind, as io their.
obvious tendency to shake the foundation* of our.
religious forum of worshifi, and deniondise the.
lower order of society. It cannot fie disavowed,
tint that the great object of those proittcatimis wee
the proteetian of the sacred forms of our worship,
ita well as to counteract the circul Mon of seditious
and defamutory libel.: and here I castaut help ex-
pressioe my surprise at the sinology Winch has been
iwt up for the suthors and publishers Of there mils.
thieves)* publications, namely. OW: they furl ob-
i:tiered bet little &rotation, and that that little was
fiery soon suppressed ; whereas the fict is, they were
- ire Well for a IOU,: illne in every shop window,
mod were to be found in every hawker and iiedlrres
pack throsighout the country, mod whets the parties
else:Aged iu thus circulating them were alarmed, in
consequence of so persons having beets prosecut.
ell for selling them without a hawker said pedlar's
licesse, these pamphlet'', with a malicious inge-
me*, were no longer exposed to sale, but artually
distributed gratis, imagining that although they
had no light in sell them, they might, without alt.
!irelieneiou. he made the subject of gift. The oh.
j-ct of these publications being thus detected to .
eishvereive of the best interests of society, I
cantraid thut it became those who filled the sr- '
(Nous situation of guardians of the public mo-
rals soul public peace, whether they were strict-
ly nothcrised 17 form of law or not, to seize the
tenders or distributors of such maliguent pro.
suctions. 1 confider that, notwitlistauding the
del et of Vie JAW, as it has since been held
to lie, they had in their official capostity as guar.
triami of the public marals, a right to prevent the
tutilhitiatibits of these determined, thougth conceal.
tit principals in a vile aml atrocious conapiraey,
from trkieg effect by the very mewls which they hush
recourse to, end for which salutary exertion of
diScretiimary power they now seek from shit =
•i lause• indemnity. Nor will it be a matter of cots.
0141Cralile as far as I apprehend, to defend
the conduct of the Magistracy, who had felt it
their duty to search the houses of suspected persons
for fire-arais mid weapons of offence. Harl there
ben manifested is the districts where this mode of
• repressing insurrection had been resorted to. Ito
dipirsition to the ardor of society—had there
been disavowed no organized system for overturn-
log. the Government of the corintry—thee, indeed,
it might have, indeed would have been a matter of
difficulty. But when the House and the country
find it established by evidence before three Coln-
• suittees of this Douse, as well as by that adduced
411$ the tri..l of some of the couspirators, oho
have expiated their crimes by public executious,
that a deep-laid and organised revolutionary *clime
bad been for months past maturing throughout the
einintry, and was, et the time of making this search
• 4.. a arms is the act of explodisig. the those
humbly apprehend, imagine the Executive
G.ivernutelit had not been actuated by s eenstuniale
• precipitancy in ordering this search to be 'nude,
I ern where, as in the case of Francis %Yard, of Not-
tingham (whose petition, with those of others upon
tin subject, sits now before the House), no emu
liat been room,. The house of this Petitioner
Hot searched but upon the most morticians!
iainrinertion ; and it was not much to be wondered at
that in, arms were thieve found, when it is recollected
that the search slid not take place until the morn-
time Of the toils of June, when the rebels had
roarchedirom Derby towards Nottingham the night
before, and ,an armed force had been collected
.tortag the preceding night in the neighbourhood of
Niittis.ghant; for the purpose of receiving and arm-
ing sects as were disposed to join the cense and repair -
to Nonni:gluon. the avowed depot of concealed arms.
Whatever, therefore. was done in this respect cer-
tainty was wit premature, and the Magistracy of
Nottingham appear to have done only what was,
flout the witure of the information they had re-
-velvet', übsolutely necessary- for the preserstetion of
the public peace. They therefore, are clearly en-
titled to MI indemnification front actions to winch
they *reliable on this score. Were his Majesty!.
Ministers and the Magistracy to be put upon the
justification of these avid similar measures by se-
ti inssit law; the inevitable consequence would he,
th..l they must defend themselves by means of ex-
Inhitieg in open Court those persons as witnesses.
whom it was she object of the Bill of Indemnity to
prevetit being drao is into • notoriety which miglit
be tlMir ruin ; and if such a principle were souctitni-
*Nl, it would be vain to expeet that men of come-
trireme and property would not hetsceforword, 41Vell
ass times of the greatest possible Amor, be deterred
foot, giving that species of infornettion which bad
heors its this instauce the means of effectisig ahe
deliverance of the public from the threateinal
torte. Home the means of peoviding uuder such
cireaatstances for the public safety would be-so for
sproillilatitd. The terms of the last Report. too, mu'
Grits the iotelligence upon which Government havo
sill along ailed, and add, that uotwitintaisding the
of thow2 who had been t•iinted with disieffeke.
tiro, were returning to sawndaiess and subordination,
aLiti there were suBiei, la materials of dise&ction
toile vie: throughout the system, to render all the
.hut.* of Government necessary for the presto-
. ,-soot the public peace. The spirit of innovatiort
was not yet eatinguished, and in many
acenipts are still making, under the.pre-

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the sword is tbeother.LP Ne, nor J use idiot
&Ws it, she whuf tare the tiMies
therein insisted: oat Universal wane! Now
Ili?, I to contend, never: was —nets can
rtiliesefitafon in this coantit,) nor in
that
any other, l ever hid any thing like u Consign-
titan orwstablisitedGmerunieut. A Writ like that
which has bee* skean to Imre &Ousted part of the
cotdnliiolty rot 14 months back will' not so ossify be
when we are actlvaluted with
aie mode of iiisieemling intended with resiseci in
'teatimes in future...for the patios/ el eroding the
isle Of Charles If. relative to petitions; • By this
Mule it sins intended to collect around the House

an whole army of applicante, eel+ ten persons tat-
rying s copy el the mine petition, and the slumbers
of such persons amounting to 10 or le,ooo. if
such sit miseksblage Om time besieging your doors,
would initltse Mime feel that the negligence of
Gusleilinie!st and the Magistrates tlaretigh *hose
districis smuch an bort had. been permitted lee pass
witheet soy check or prevention. was perfectly in-
excusable ? I therefore, under the circuinstasseee of
the clue, strongly recommend to the-Hosise to sup-
port tier first reading of the Bill, Mid if there be
lenY thing Objectiotirble iii its clauses, the ',roper
time to discuss them will he upon the second read •
in and in the Ceownittee, when the coteries of
the BM will be perfectly known, and matter of ge-
sweat debate. I therefore mere, Sir, that the Bill
be new read a first time."
Mr. LaNnTom—" 3lr. Speaker, although 1 cer-
esiiuly have pledged myself in ueutral terms to op-
pose the first reading of this Bill, it is lily listen.
hull to oppose a principally on the ground of there
out been am adequate inquiry instituted into
the conduct of bid Illajeety'e Geserinieenfs which,
if it had taken place, I am perfectly satisfied
would have furnished rather a ground of impeach./
menu, dials wee for grinding an indemnity to the
Members or servants of Gower 11l i l rut. We, I Up.
prebend, are now come as it were to the lest
husk in the great chain—the wiudina up of the
late disgraceful art' of a G'uvertioneitt, which
surest deCidedly has committed itself in the eyes of
an indignant natiose—we must lose or insitstain that
character which becou►rs a gritish Mouse of Par.
liassiesit: This night we are called upon to defeat
the reds of justice—to stifle the public voice,
which loudly demands an iogniry into the con-
. duct of Acliiiiiitstrition—to dieregrint the nu-
mi iiii s Pentium daily presented to this finite',
• &visiting nets of tyrannical cruelty which would
• have elemgvered the annals of doe Bootile, and
• whith fe*, ( lel*, in this Hawse eau Woe re-
'netted witlsoot lint we most consider
onrselves involved in the iisiquitreis consequeswes
which hove resulted from our own measures. We
have hitherto yielded to the suggestions of the mem-
hers of hie Almejesty's Govereirmnst, and comieuted
to arm them with weapons eliurp, deadly, and dies-
gerous. lc doing Oda, the only apology. to our-
•selver or the country th it we could possibly [mike,
was, that we were confiding these dangerous powers
into heads which would temper their severity hey
tl.e 'miry with whirls •they were likely to be :Alm-
on-treed. With that view tie were exhorted to rely
on the well-known chum:ter of the Breretary fOr the
llonse Deportment. Whatever may have been the
private character of that NOM: Lord (Sidinouth),
et-noisily Isis public official acts appear of u most
tyraimicat and arbitrary nature. It is said that even
mu inquisitor, however WM.:lied in the daily csere
c:se of torture, has ou occasions been known to melt
into tars, and prochnin aloud his symmulty in the
suffin.ing seed agormiN of the victim expiring under
the 'severity of that torture prescribed by himself;
perhaps such rimy be the um:cesium' starts of biome.
city or pity dteplayed by some other charecters
amnome4 his hlsjesty's ltlinisters; bat in OM• case
or otrilr they' AIWA el' but little purp,mse, and,
in-
deed, e'en this &act:Wiwi of occasiolial better feel.
ing lett more thatiouce !seen denied.to him, as well
as almost every other good quality, by the very
men who now ere futemost iu eximilliiime bins, for
their own sinister puiposrs.—( lime. hear, hear.)
It has been over and over stria asserted shut aerie
hiss been sio sufficient wooed, oxide out for that
snspensiou of thee law of the loud. which. Mu pray-
ed the principal cause of that ,applenition foe ini-
demnity to Ministers. If so, then l tnrintaisa: this
House has been swindled out of their assent by the
artifices of ass seaworthy Arhainistratiou. they
have come down with their (;tees Bags-they have
these appointed a Committee of their own 110131ilite•
titian to decide upon their ow.* conduct, sad even
bad the indelicacy to sit twos 'hot. Committee
themselves, officiating at owe as arKallefa, jury,
and. judges in their own .epee. What. could he
111016 cositen4dible thou first reptile of a cull-
'piney between • haiskrupte astrolsearry said a
starving cobbler? The only thing that gives any
restore of interest to the selmisedingsisting de-
tail of these prOCCCllillga. is the iistroductiou of
the Government spy, except ,wlies the coontry
sew with pain a Judge exercisitig the highest of-
ficial capacity upon thisa trials., actuated Mate
strongly by • desire to convict the.accusesl tines
anxious fur the elucidation of tenths (leer the
Ilamoorable Member replied to the cases whirls heel
hum (mentioned in argument by thee Honourable
Newer. lit that of 1713. thee Pretender was in arms,
broisoust strong party ice the notion aid in Portia-
nita : there was therefore tea analogy. The Minis-
tent reminded him of thee conduct of Robespierre,
wise kept the remiss of government iis his detested
by continually alarming she intent re-
public with denunciations of traitors and con-
seiretors, which were the mere falasications
of • his own malicious and iasiguinary
Although our industrious manufoctorer bad been
derrivedof bread, and sent out to 'beg sit igno-
intnious tenancy from a charily. alpinist which
pride Saul generous mealtime revolted.—mill enough
Was not dotve—that spiiit was still to bow lower
down is, the system of tyranny.. Although they
smarms! and complained, they crsiesinned still loyal.
• mtesSu a state of things au erte(' ear their views.

it paint
tor; sore Width,
bay hia and DMus,* brand ray new rimed
To &plants your ;Inclose sicareb'
I will ask, why should thii Indemnite.Bill be so
accurately calculated to shield this Oliver, or why
is Out traitor still at large ?—(hear, AM?.) 0-7 he
blood which has been innocently shed. at Deeliy,
and that even ehedby Beendteeh sod his suoiteititet,
lies et Oliver'e door, or dyes those hand* whit+ Best
gaVe hint his detestable commieninio. It will be
ever written in the besets of all Englishmen, that
all those crimes. these bloody atrocities, emanated
from that Cithiteet, that Council that slow seeks for.
itself indemnity. If they contetut it is more for
the sake of covering and concealing the wititemes
than themselves. then I conjure the House to el/H-
-eider whether it is worthy the character, the fame,
and honour of a British Parliament to lend itself
to the disgraceful purpose of sheltering, by a gene.
tel measure, infortuers. amongst whom are to he
fuend villains of a Most utocions and blood-thirety
chirracter.—l shill read an extract from it Morning
Paper of tins day—(A laugh)—which I know
myself to be authentic
:
• Soule singular facts which have come to our knowledge,
and which we are acne genet testate, kelp to explain sad to
trader yet moire ofreasive this peculiarity in the Indemnity
Ball. It will be retalleeted, that the day from which this
Bill takes its start, sin. the 28th of Jaaaary, 1817. was the
day before the Priam was unsalted in wore to the House of!
Peers. There was some lurking suspicion sad tatinavert
the tune that UMW honks proceeded in part from permaa is
the pay of Goveciimerst as spies, sal who thus sought to.
make Itiencselvee work. This retrospective operation, in-
deed, of the Indemnity Bill, Would of itself be no weak con-
tinuation of show atomises; hut, in addition to this, we
have now discovered, that die most noted of the spier, Oliver,
woe actually a party no that celebrated day in excitiog the to-
mukaons prucenliap in the Pink ! We are assured by a geo-
de...cif coidoubled veracity sad respectability, that um the
day of the opening of the last Session of Parliameut, be met
01.ver at the entrance of the Horse Guards, a very short
time Wore the Prime pawn d through on his way Is the
House. They hail no sooner saluted each other, dram
Oliver, elevating Iris voles so as to attraet a very numerous
pimp of the by-stairders, marred Guth a torrent of 1111111se
upon the Gore/humid in genet's!, and his Royal Highness
in particular. The gentleman to whom we allude, earprised
at this conduct on the part of a inset who had been formerly
most clamorous in his rancho, of loyally, alleluia/m.l,
" How smirk you are charmed since rill %ere aserjeant in the
. N'hitechapel volunteers To this Mr Oliver seed, use
hut contioued his bataiigne. gentleman parted hoot
him, but remaiked, just as he was going away, that
Oliver and a little dark•complezioned man among the
crowd, recognized each other as old aegisaigitances. We are
farther seamed, that Olivet, as a preliativary step to his
twiny taken imo the regulor earoloyinvist of. the Seerritoy
for the Hume Department,• obtained a certificate of his
loyal conduit from his former Contasatolant, Colonel Hardy,
of the tVidiechapel volunteers. COtonel Hardy RR% far
from cutlet-rem:: at the mortert of his granting this honour-
able testimonial, that it was to he used fur the base purpose
of qualifying Isis 01.1 'irritant to act as an accredited spy.'
Now it will he recollected, that * nediately after
,this occurred, the outrage was committed against
the Prince Regent on his return from the House,
which was atteoded by the Ministers, culling on
the House for a Secret Committee, stud finally su.-
pending the Habeas Corpus Act. Thum Oliver
appears in every thing, and L am now prepared.t..
prove the fact* detailed in the eatiact I have read
by udiilavit. lit the bar of your House. With this
view of the case, I see more grotand hi( gnitig into
s full uud fair inquiry luta the coritlient of Aditaiiii.
ideation, than for granting thematic./ their ustworthx
associates an Act of Indemnity—and shall, as the
indepeudent tepresentative of a comity remarked
for the purity of its reptieoeidation hitherto, move
that the Bill be read this day six toutillni."—(ttc.ir.)
Sir M. W. ItitYLEY supported the arguments of
the preceding speaker. end land, he could not ore
why they lead not berm deemed worthy of a reply
from the other side of the Heine. If say person
on the Treasury Bench wished to have that °Non,
tunity. he would. he happy to give them 8146 W Olaf
opportunity—[Hate he pelletal for some time, but
110 person rialtikt I— he continued to ClJllltillre the
precetlesita of 16rift, 1715. and 1745 s with the pats
iserinol. of distuilressee. and concluded with pio•
noutieing that smile of them were applicable to the
case before the !louse.
Ur. PROTIIEadg repelled the charge made by
the Hoe. anti Leanne! Gentlemen oppootte, against
the advocates of Reform, many of wham, he be-
lieved; were actuated by pure and conscinutious
motives. Ile should. however. vets foe the Bill.
Colonel STANHOPII thought the House would
have great reason to find fault with the Govern.
invert for supitsentse, if they neglected to make the
!louse acquainted with the danger and extent of
thus conspiracy. The tronsequence of %%Inch was.
that the Habeas Corpse Act-lead Melt suspended
upon the recommendation of the Committee
appointed to examine into the subject. rei4l
person* olio caused the Suspensiou Bill by their
acts and their writings. were Cishbett, usual
the incendiaries who had instigated the people to
actin of violence.—(Hear.)—His own -

e 'low,
' thirPal,

An emi►sary•, whoa; watch-word was rebellion,
who baldly would unfurl his flag, whose steps
are still to be traced by acts of atrocity, raptor,

including
eteers. He resdr .
agree with Awe who said that the %fagistrates
had acted duly slid with furbearsuce in the execu-
tion of-the powers intrusted to thew, during the
suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act—why, they,
should -those who ' so give these persons an

thought .
indemnity ogunsibt ptusecutions,

as

ucird

--, ro. they __
hi this lair simmer, it wait tuilioAsilihr they could
incur ?—was not the Act of the 24th George If. a
indemnity for thew, if their nets were SO

sufticient
pure and ao fall of forbearance ? It was ridicu-
lous to tafk of the danger of indi►idual. Mr hose Ilanlrt
'night he disclosed, if &launders were called on to
opal' their rowers of inforaitalion ; few, if any of
the parties voile haul been taken on any jostilialde
ground of suspicion (ataid it was said 4117 were all

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opinion ..___, -Jght to .. . -. a, _ _ stare, recur,
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that the 51inisters.hail exercised, with forbearance with a steadtergetilts•' on every emergency, to
and wilier, the powers unrested to them—that they. the prartica or arbitraty Gurerniu.sits,taw_i
had brought shoat the present peaceable disposi. Whetter., I real and proper necereity for a partial
firm of the country, and were therefore erititled to ebsPention of tsie liberties of the twopeo avow; he
an indemnity for the acts they bud timessarity WM.. would tint'iihtiiik•frum supporting the measnre, and
misted.r—(fleur.) protecting the existing (A urartiment for the fair
Mr. %ITT", (or Cambridge) commenced by al- earn:ire of their reepoasibilits on such on oceasiou ;
hiding to the allegation in the enacting part of this but he would take quite a different course when he
Bill, for the purpose of ... the case of the objected not , the grounds o'' the sasparesion.
persons called the Blanketerrs. was - to • but to' c the indean , whirl]
lie

only I.
.1 the principle of ti. _linty, 4 Wit now
In shield Miiiiiterssuid their agent*. . had iti the
first phice no coutidenoe in the Cutnaoittie who
tried the case, and there mast be orge very*.fre.
neittly formed, before•therr opinion could hare airy
weight with him.—Glenn.)—By the proposed Hill,
the people of England were to be pia not of
11-- forbade to
their
—This

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the pale or the lee ; they were to he forbade
p; octed ►►gainst the Aliutotscrs of the Crown for'
meta under the forms of law.--(jjoir.).

was the introductiou or a system in nine of prate
to iiidict upon the ircnple a wrong without a re. 1
uttdy—und here the Qlini*ters bud laid uu fair par-
haineutary ground before the House, to •hew
either that tlwy lied exercised the powers intrusted
to them, with humanity and discretion, or that

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they wire entitled to the indemnity they row claiito
ell. Until they di•l this, Parliament was hosilid..lo
lobject in lirnine to any measure which went to take
1 from the people their just and hereditary rights.—
t i ()dear, hear.)
,e Mr. SIAttoTATT had voted against the SUAlfea•
ipr 1-dots Isomouse he thought a& etroug a. tneasige
made, remit ..._
____ of was nut at the time called for—he looked back with
tranquillity, to auticipate a different result ? The pleasure at the vote he had theta given. But the
Act was in every 1/646641 iteiconatitutimeat. It. oop- Moment Parliament tossed this law Ministers were
mined the tirst preamb/e en the Statute. Book, which leitina- to give it fall rffe.ct. The very argitineut
,went to trocourige practices unktirevii to the Con- • against the measure at the time was the private in.
atitution.'—(!flat.)—The fact of the employment i jury to which it might expose individual, ; the ma!!
of hired spies might have been. peihaps, anima& question then was how Ministers had exercised this
veiled upon with sin except of itidignatton at the Act, which they sought fur under a conviction rst-
Opposition side of the Howse—but hathit not, at its necessity. The complaints made against them
the Minh/ferial sitle, been debnided with more I by Petitioners were in the main proved to he elfin•
than. ordinary tembernest ?—(Hear, hear, hear.)— unfounded or grossly eiaggerared, and under such
The House eould'hot too severely reprobate the use circumstances he thought the House was bound
of spies and informers in the manner that had been to protect Ministers fur the fair discharge of the
stated. Of spies. what br. Johnson said of Omits functions it intrusted to them,—(/Jeer, hear.)—
um be stated...." that all. relines was against them, Not to pass the Act or Indemnity, under pitch
but alt experience for them."—fHenr, heor.)— circumstances, would be• as great an oppression ifs
When employed, however, it was incumbent on any -that Ministers were said themselves to have
those who mused them to watch closely their pitec- caused..
tkes, and feel the deep responsibility they had in- Lord Attintrass said, the argument of the last
curred. The precedents quoted did net apply to i speaker war, that because Parliament hurl giving
the pretend case, few the periods of 1643, 1716, i cettain powers, it was bound to take it fur grituted,
and 1746, were atlitagranti belle rieili, and could they were fairly administered, and to indemnify
have no itiftsience upon a time of profitund peace. Ministers accordingly. He admitted, that if the
powers were fairlyamel legally exercised, then they
Neither cooed the case of 1801 apply ; for then the
country hail been engaged for year* in sou arduous • ought to have an indemnity.; but, ou the present
war, and doctrines must dangerous to the Consti- occasion, it was clear this was not the ease, from
lotion were broached at home, and encumagod and the Uniform. refusal of-Ministers to tolerate ally tiss
cheered Isy•a formidable power abroad. This could quiry into their conduct, except that of their own
. not be said to be the prevent state of the country ; 'immolation. The House. was bound to have a dd~
soul it was to be deplored, that, at the close or a ferent inquiry, before a measure of this kind should
triumphant war, witeu thee were said to have be Versed, which went at *um to take away every
achieved the liberties of Europe, they should be liaise of redress.froin•the most oppressed and insist
internally in no better state than they had been- in itatired.—(Hcar.)
the time of- e%lr. Pitt, after )ears of an unsuccess- Mr. Fattedawree said, he felt bound, for the
• ful war, with which he. was lima eoniending.—. sake- of his own couvisteucy, for the sake of the
He (Mr. Smyth) *mad say, that whatever cleanly justice due to Ministers, and also for the sake of
weeded the Britiah Coustitutiote.whellier it was to. the comisteucy of. Parliament, to vote for the ple-
be surrendered to the prerogative of the Crown,: sent measure, and at the mune time to declaies
or to the vision of snood 18411ioin.ots, no very like- that, nitrite opinion, the arguments used against it
ly occurrence, as lie appreliesided ; or whether it ' were trivial and inapplicable—(Hear, hear, /root
was to lie undermined Ly arbitrary power and a- the Opposition Benches.)—ln fact, if they implied
servile House of Consnamwes-the snore probable hi- I et all, it was to the Suspension of the Ilatieus
Wily, perhaps—(Henry)—there was one thing lie Corpus Act.. and nut to-the Bill of Indemnity, the
was persnadtdeptite clear, that it woulthieeer.owe: questisneof which stood solely on its own iliatiisct
its death-blow to the Jacobin. principles diseemi-. said ."113131e gram"- Parliament had already seep
meted in this country in the year 1801.—(,11ear.)— ::the deloter, lied uelmitted it ; the Ministers had
The (Ministers of the Crown knew this, the country reineved it, and were etititled, to the proposed Bill.
also felt it.; 41141 whatever conlidetice might lave! 1
7,11 had beers said, that thief was n swindling transec-
Iseeis placed in las Majesty's t4overnment ar the, tire.. If so, thee the Hon. Member should recollect
time of the nu Temente isoile could be roomiest tot 1-that-threpurtres twit were the whole of the Legisla-
theist after the failure of all the conspiracies pro- I
store. 1.1 tins said that no attention had been paid
flounced so awfully formidable fry the Linl Also-to the cemplaintwof the-people. He, on the coati:t-
rate of Scotland, after the miserable expeilitiumof tr. u•sertv&they had been attended to so far as it ails
the Illatiketeers, mot the explosion of the stew of piaLuessible to do so. It wonld, be both daugeions.
Luddism, which wite•so singularly suffered to grow
..itittistial, and improper to disclose the information
tip to muturity meter the very ryes of Megiitroits on which Ilimetrr4 wrist, and nothing would
cm the spot, :111,1 which was defeated ula-ii it lied he more improper than to let out a notion
embodied aluree of n1;0110200 men,. by one Ma- n that the parties who complained of the treatment
gistiate and. a single dregs-sue who seized 30 or 40. which their own nets had induced, should have the
of the offendere in useir flight.—(Hear, hear.)— Feu tet service fund open fur their relief. When the
At to the state of ' Vol Write, the Mie_tistrares Sii,peteiou Act was passed, lie was fully couviowed
who were there in 181-2, and in the present time, of the danger then subsisting; nothing had shit e
openly avowed that the deeiefer ; t the foinoir necurred to alter this opinion. to so thinking he
peinel was decidedly more formidable than A was nut singular; he had the proud satisfaction of
aeon at the latter. mod. had a. fir greater ten- Vie coticnrolit testimony of a Gentleman now us -
dency to local outrage ; and yet no one, at that hotuilately no more ; bat whom he was et:menaced
time, ever thought of suspending the II .bras Cur- all revered, he meant Mr. Pordonby ; that emitiont
pus Act. The precedent alibis Bill was extieurea sand justly distinguished mon was fully /sensible of
ly dangerous; the repetition i.f such piece/dente -.tee. Meager, though he tittered as to the extent of
would become fatal to die Coionitution—bettee, id : the remedy to he allohedk—(Beer, haws from the
'he npiniore it would be, that. the Secretary s' 110pposiiian benches.)—Did not the trials at Derby
.Stale should have the power to indemnity any puctiej 'disclose a traitorous conspiracy ? and were elite;
ag lust whom. damages might be given, unt of Oa sting facte to be shaken by- the allegations coil-
secret service tuoneY, than that this sort of sweepiti4 tamed in peetione which were divan to be false ?..-
1 prom (Mit should be afforded to thew et the ex< (Hear, hear, hear, frost both sides of the Horse.)—
',moo of the- liberties of the prople. The remehif The complaint in the Manchester Petition, signed
force of all law, the House knew; wee le fed on •by twenty-six persons, was refuted by the atute-
the op. ' ' that it ullorded to every class of society : meet of a large number of the most, respectable
equal liberty,. equal protection, send eve! redoes,,.. 4 persons is the same town.—(Haar.)—tf it could
:The -Bull mica proposed struck at the soot of thi ' be prored•thm spies were used in the manner men-
wholsettoine principle of law. sod did ami elision' fuelled, no doubt the imputation would be of urely
"iriew of the interests of a few to the sacrifice of th -se rirtus kind,' hut the Committee had spurned the
unuliettable rights of the many. fie would therefore I aceusatiort, and sheen it to be grouildless. a He..
decidedly ouipport the ameuelment. • thosiglet the indemnity Bill was the inewsuri..to
• Mr. Irmann, though lie would not enter at liniath which Militstwis were IMO' rulaik'd alter es'aulalishisig
,isitiattre.oinistilatioual !mild% of this question., yet the peace of thseeountrn ised.as he had not regret-
.ftecouli not reconcile it to Isis principle' to glee a I tell his former vote, so lie hoped lie never shotild
silent vide. if any thing could add to his stoney his present, hi voting for the measure.—(/fear.)
_ew:roo,,t the oweiwu, it would be 00 srpolosidis Mr. liiiitin explionerl. that he had not sug.
ested the fond of the secret service money to be. drawn in its support by the Atiortsey-General from g
ancient precedents.—(Hear, hear.)—How could I open to the complainants. lie merely thought they
any of these precedeuta apply to a state of pro. I ought not to lie shut from the relief winds the leer
fouod peace, where in catupetitair existed fur the would atlerd them.
Crown, or sissy powerful party appeared to wrest I Lord NUGENT raid, anti (heathy thing in which
front it its due prerogative ? I,l* the precedent 1 lie agreed with the tut speaker was, that the quo s-
were now admitted for this Bill, he feared it *OO Id I nun of the Indemnity Bill stood oil distinct green:cis
be ton:often ItCor6l64—particialaily when it was lint from that of she Suspension of the tiabt'aid Colti.s
too uppsreot that that House, %Lick ought to me. I Act. lie lad lust year cppositd the latter, and lie
present the people, were deterouised to reject every had unreason since to repent that vote. His i.'. a
inquiry into their grievances. and to • stimulate of lire consistency of those who supported the Sn...
them, by every such unjust 14.114114 to acts of vies- pension Act wily, that City onght now, in common
Truce awl disorder, lir the hope.of rethessiug theta- delicacy built •to theinseltreausid the Miliis.ess, vote
selves,—(Herr, issue.)--'f lie Honse mould see the ler inquiry, to strew their opponents that the act*
evil ulnas flowed from such a course, and linw done' underthe measure were those which were fairly
completely it sapped the ireinciplrsat the Conatitit- and trolly required to bring offenders to instice.
Lion ; to see in inch rapid enceereion those who This inquiry was necessar - 'fore Ministers could
ought V- be the Ministers of five ire,'' - I Ask* afr the:hely, - • they had incurred,
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hear,

ry hi"(
.y responsibility t,
ljtild &rat ..:vier charges that had Iwo wade
Ag4llat tbrilu•—/Hear/—The llou. Gientletwoi
Jahelow hies (Mr. Vreinnautlo had appealest to the
''contiuet of a revered and lamented Individual, of
whose services that House was unhappily ri4nrive.l
by death Ponsonb)),, and had quoted this
duct its Itisrlication of his own vote. Would to
Heavers that the llosise this night had the Leurtit
of the assistance, as they had in recollection, of thc
autboriey of th'at estimable !—(Hear. )

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It wia.9!ai be recollected Mr. f'insponily went u. to
the ft Committee certainly with an opinion
nu serious disturbance existed in the country ; i
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tence of effectiite, rnotilutligul Re ,is and violencevilworipte4 bt his ,give audignity,itrie ) enuid attem tlO teekee ae
cap.„,i, ta um, 4 derptiriforineeTiv 114. wa4 to be: aeltdOwn testeThole iitd eritisti,flw a 0,.. teal lied to their 01, Cad* 3* IWod
revolt.. Tiliestioiltioo..viethi„ avow .ii' :: happy a i iohabitsottfter trits•diaglet.' l'hia of" IV; when in Yollso/Os erventeett . les
Ifftlein".44eit. iiiiiiiillias aer shall atiika *Apt t redoubts tielaorallaffelli.WeffilVbtaviespe' ;WM elide of °trendier, bif public 'tutairutitnif,
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those whom stffs affectedly stated they are a brt • by the it erence of high military outhodtier, wbeilieretty attempt was emote in molest any of the
petition ; mid what do these men ask ?—whalk do . and rejoinshis anxious swinciarea, hoping to reap persons concerned its the prosecutions. If, in the
tliei.Ctiniend'io aiiii Tighe. Why nothing' Mr thrftworit of hirlidertrai glitotan; which-he 'pieta • • then fermented violenf aoelety, too outtit-ativtuttiffrof
than this, to carry thcirpetition in one bawl, awl aptly have detailed iu the languor, Of Satan blUi. "node, what triton!' was there tv.w, in a moment of
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