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case.
Petition read, after some observations from Sir W. Dc
Crespigny.
Mr. LUSHINGTON said, the suspension ief Mr. White had
not taken place on anonymous complaint—it hart been fully
inquired intu ; and it Willi evident that such length of time war
was calcalated to occasion interest in his favonr, and conse-
quent inquiry. The complaint was respecting the petitioner
not having returned for windows rein to be closed, which con-
duct the Board declared to be of dangerous precedent.
Mr. HU ME denied that the conduct had been enquired into.
Mr. T. WILSON thought that Mr. White had been hardly
used, and that fcrther enquiry ought to lake place.—Petition
ordered to he printed.
Mr. CURWEN presented a petition frpm Capt. Manby for
remuneration for hisparvices—for his invention to preserve the
lives of seamen. Petition ordered to be printed.
THE It Eggrar N"HOCiaTions.—Mr. MACDONALD brought
forward his motion un the subject of the papers recently sub-
mitted to Parliameek a traded that the papers bad found
their way tuto the liand's of almost all his Majesty's selects,
and that they would have given the people fresh cause to cling
with redoubled earnestness to the advantages that remained to
them. He doubted not that they had been re aid with general
disgust ; but be deemed it right to bring them before the House,
to ascertain whether they possessed. or set, thatikafituatiun in
Europe which they intagthed they pawned. Willey had not
—Why ? It might be said now,as it had been observed early in
the French Reiblution, that the allies were more to be feared
that) the enemy—because they were not against the excesses
of liberty, they were against liberty itself. Great struggles
were made after 1703, and eventually Deonaparte was happily
subdued ; hut be wished that England had left the Preach mere
completely to themselves—had net aided in forcing • King
upon them at the pond of the bajonet. This adjustment bad
not long taken place when France contemplated and prepared
for attacks on the regenerated constitution of Spaia--theenon-
ablution which this Emperor Alexander had christened " Legi
timete." In 1820, however, that autocrat bad some new
lights on that constitution, and fed preserve this °mutt, from
those northern lights. (Hear! and a laugh.) Now, the dis-
sentious in Spain were si oken of—disseations that had been
actively fomented by Femme ; but, did they forget that their
own revolution of 1888 was not consolidated without two civil
wars. (Rear, hear, hear!) There 'night be two parties in
Spain, but on one side the commercial and enlightened c:asses,
science, were seen ' • against the emistitution there were the
higgotted nobility, sad MOO of the lower orders and the pea-
santry. He complained against our government that it had
absolutely done outhieg ; not that we had not been precipitated
into • wee, hat that the ministers had absolutely done nothing
to maintain the character and dignity of the country. The
result of the negotiations bad exposed this country to the ridi-
cule of the world. Oar government appeared to have knows
nothing of what was passing between France and Spain, and
France Ind Russia. How had snob things happened? The
correspondence had allicted him greatly. When the threat-
ened attack out Spain was mentioned by the Duke of Wellies-
too, Mr. Canaan ooatentcd himself with saying that Egghead
would he so party to it, come what might I" Why had
tIM
that minister deprecated the attack; why had lie not mthiman•
ed it as unjust end impolitic, and in violation of all inthemnthmal
law ? So long as the Monarchs of the earth combioatherible
all those rights and privileges that were dear L. MO, tbey
must be contest to hear. at least for • little white Iseese!, its
the House of Commons, that they were tyrants. (Chest.)
complained of the instructions given to the Duke of Wel=
Had lie lud at the Congress one tytbe of what he was
to have in the field, the present massacre in Spain on the yid
France would not be going ea. He 000 tended, that the hypo
thetical questions were such as never had been put to any
country—to us, sinct.Englsed was Ehgland. Lord Burleigh
would have done more than " shake his head at it t` tho' lie had
sot heard that the Duke of W. ever shook his head at them.
—The hon. gent. then censured the eondact of Clialeauthiand
during the negoeisties. highly praised that of Spain, which es
Whited, he said, arsonsisteut dignity, unequalled in the recent,
unequalled, perhaps, in the ancient, history of nations. He re •
probated the uoresenting notice taken of the speech of the King
of Preece. andthaintained, that if this country had menaced
war upon France, instead of pursuing the system of cold neu-
trality, to which wielders were now determined to adhere,
there would be ao ground for discussion on this question.—
W ith whatever feelings of abhorrence he might regard the con-
duct of the Freoth ministers to Portugal, in the coarse of the
negociatione, he must admit that they had' spoken oat to the
ministers of this coantry, who were thus supplied with the
means of guarding against the base attack upon the liberties of
the Spanish patios. However others might feel on the question,
he was convinced that the great monarchical influence of the
Continent would, in the event of aggrandisement, by the sub-
jugation of Spain, direct itself against the liberties of this proud
Island. Uoeapeeted eonsequences often arose from the designs
of individo its. What might he the issue of this contest, which
was to decide whether Europe was Is become one vast military
despotism or sot, he could not tell ; but it might he, that whit
bed been aimed at by a Buonsparte would be accomplished by
a Bourbon in his dotage. He concluded by calling upon the
House to declare to his Majesty that his ministers lied not acted
in conformity with the principles of the british constitution,
and with the dignity of the crown ; and moved so address.
stating the regret of the House at the failure of the negeciation,
declaring that that failure arose from the conduct of ministers,
ins wet making •audeenn pretest against the system petseed by
France, fite.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. S. WORTLEY rose to move an amendment. He did
not dispute the propriety of the censure upon the conduct of
foreign powers, and particularly upon that of France, which
had for three years been certainly attempting to shut the door
against civil liberty all over the world. He considered that
'conduct incomprehensible, full of folly, and likely to be attended
with complete failore.—But lie could not agree in condemning
the part ministers bad taken in the proceedings to maintain
peace. He disapproved of the practice of goading foreign go-
t ernments, of using language calculated to provoke, and not
conciliate ; and moved an amendment '. that the House con-
curred with his Majesty with respect to the interference of this,
with the national regulations of other kingdoms--that they re-
gretted that the endeavours to establish peace bad proved
abortive ; and that they were at all times ready to support his
Majesty in vindioating the dignity of the 'down."
Mr. I'. WILSON, in seconding the amendment, said, that
lie had sscertaiued beynnd • doubt, that a large number of his
constituents concurred in the feeling to recommend to Ministers
to adhere to the principles of strict and honest neutrality
which
n
they had commenced, snit by which they had exhibited evident
consistency and fairness of cliaraoter.—(A latigh, ad ies
hear.) He redly thought that not a tingle argument had been

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used tbeay.—lf we threw away the scabbard we would be
drawn into difficulty. He did not eke the pert of the Frea:h
Government—on the contrary, no one viewed with more ex-
ecration than he did the conduct of France against Spain—con-
duct which was revolting to the feelings of every Eustis'mai.
(Cheers.) We were, however, not to be be arb
iters. aad
those milieu which were Olf allies, and might be so again,
should not he stigmatised, as they had been, by gentlemen.
who, in doing so, had let down the dignity of debate. In that
house such personalities should be avoided. (A laugh, and
cries of beer!) The line of strict neutrality was that which
England should, in his mind, pursue ; as, in case England
should be assailed, she ought to have her energies at her eons-
mand.
Mr. lIOBHOUSE said, that he felt as be ought to feel, and
as every Englishman ought to feel, the gross failure r .d degra-
tions to which England has been reduced by the Minister sod
his colleagues iu the course of those negociatiose (chetri) ;
and he could not but congratulate the Hesse that in the
speeches which they had just beard upon the amendment, their
ears were not tainted by stroll language as bed been used its
atwitter place. and in which all the principles of liberty were
treated even with more contempt and derision than by the
Continental Despots Ihenieelves.—(Cheers)—lt bad bees said
that England ought not to dere to use even the language of re-
monstrance. It was honourable in the gentlemen who bad •
Wel, tat down. to speak out as they bad done upon this ea-
exampled iestance of atrocity and injustice,--(Cheers.)—The
hon. member for the City bad, however, objected. streusel,
enough, to the languiAe of indignation which bed been uttered
by hie boa. Mend (Darden) on the former allusions to this
question. Ile most have taken a very unfair measure of the
strength of the English language when be considered that the
word execration," which he had just used, was out calculated
to convey the feeling of the bon. baronet and the house.—
(Hear, bear, and a laugh.)--No stronger sentiment was re-
quired, and U snob language bad been followed up, as it might,
by the vote of the hon. member for the city, nothing could mere
traiy represent the the feelings of the majority of the calms*
of London.—(Cheers and laughter.)
Mr. BANKEB was in favour of the amendment. He coo-
sidered ministers as having acted wisely, and for the good of
the country, in adopting a system of neutrality.
Mr. BARING was decidedly favourable 'to peace as the
member for Corfe Castle, and them efore it was that be bad to
the conduct of ministers.--He thought the Lanese of
the country lied been compromised in the late negociations. sad
by the want of energy displayed by his Majesty's goveremeol„
the chance of the country beieg tweed into a war bad bees
greatly inereased. Our government ought to have said to
Prussia and Russia, yes interfered with Poland , and to Austria,
you intermeddled with Naples. bat we upset -Writ lea to
interfere with Spain.
Mr. P. MOORE moved that the debate be adjoined.
Mr. MONCK reseeded the motion, and at twelve o'eleck
the House adjourned.
TUESDAY

Mr. HUME presented a petition from Aberdeen ordain tire
duty on stone carried coastwaya.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that it
was his intention to propose that such a duty be taken off.
Mr. ELLICE presented • p.aition from Bridgewater against
the duty on coals. He hoped this duty would also be repealed.
The CHANCELLOR of the AXCHEQUER said, this was
• snore Important duty, as it produced nearly a 'italic", while
that on slue was only about 25,0001.—11 e therefore *weld sot
mow return so favourable se newer.
Mr. HUM E moved for acermets of the correspoudesee, &c.
between Mr. George White, surveyor of taxes, and the board
of taxes, respecting Mr. W bite's diemissioa, &o. Ordered.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.—Toe Pr.eets.—Mr. CANNING
moved, that the order of the day for resuming the adjourned
debate be read. It having been read,
The SPEAKER staled the original monism sad the mead-
ment.
Mr. W. WHITMORE then rose and expressed himself de •
cidedly against the emendate's'. He did not imam to sey that
the country ought to have been involved in war rashly, or that
threatening language should have been held without fallowing
up such language ; bat he should support the address, beaus*
be bad in vain looked for that manly language which our minis-
ters ought to have adopted—for that protest which ought to
have at once been made against the atrocious infringemeot
of
public law contemplated sod now perpetrated by Frame against
Spain. (Hear, hear.) England throughout bad acted as this
ally of France, for in all the letters where France could rot
Cumin' excuses, England appeared to be quite ready to assist
in such matters. He thee read various extracts from the papers
to illustrate such assertion. By such coarse our ministers Led
promoted the views. of Fromm. He regretted the vote he had
given respecting Naples, as it now appeared that it was this
commencement of a system of attack on liberty, wherever it
might exist, beginning where liberty perhaps be in excess.—
If the attack succeeded here, there was too much reason to
fear that such attacks might be carried further. Men who bad
power were disposed to abuse it ; and as the Allies were so
anxious for aggrandisement, would they the lose opportooity T
Had they never heard of partition ?..-A manly and independent
expression of sentiment was required, and he trusted it would
be assumed by that Huse in agreeing to the address. That
address did not require the country to be involved in the war ;
at the sense tune he feared that eventually this errantry would
be obliged to take part in the contest,te side with the aggressed •
against the aggressor.—(Heat.}-lie was quite sure, that if it
were required to preserve her honour and oignity. the country
could sustain a war.
Mr. DICSBROWE (a sew member) 'argsporied amend-
ment, and praised Lord Londonderry's institution*, note, &e•
as doing honour to that noble lord's head and heart. We had
(as the extraats which he read showed) protested against
foreign interference—we could do no more. That protest was
given in explicit terms.
Captain MABERLY supported the address. He had viewed
with sorrow and shame the papers; they showed that but tow
little attention had been paid to the dignity sad charactere
afearbeadd tbheaelawbhrioleaghthtesemairenirststo•rswahadr.
of
the country
awtas"eaocnev.ineed, that if the negociaters es the
keptpar thoehe fbG°crneo.augtnetßnrytritain had acted with firmness and seal fur the
Spanish cause, to which the attachment of ministers had bees
so 'trent, expressed in that House, the Government of France
would have been aware of the danger of persistiag is their plan
Grialtci aggression,
hiunaa tic
consequence
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intermission,
flllulourße
coea En dpwoNo
world
plunged,ehthe
said,ttwer tawrsni
indtuh"wn under now
favourable
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acircumstancesbiiaedkedekeen,fortotheir
nh el with
rats.--
Me. sa :et
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ye
isometry bad been known to labour for a great number of years.
omripneitiatceer.s h(siclieaarrifgrohmt ttwheeapa
minis-
terial side.) It bad been asked whether, if 'the English Go-
serament bad pursued a different conduct front that which they
had adopted with respect to Spain, war would have heel

THE NATIONAL REGISTER
im an enonynsous letter sent to the Boyd. The pwlitioner bad
belonged to the Kensington division. After having presented
the petition, he should wove for the correspondence on the
subject; and he should afterward► 100141 for an inquiry into the