The Sun.
London, England, 1855-03-16 00:00:00

FACTORIES.

Motion made, and question put, "That leave be given to
bring in a bill to limit the hours of work of females
and young persons, in the factories of the United King-
dom, to ten in the day; and to provide the means of
more perfectly inspecting the said factories." The house
divided ; Ayes 101, Noes 109.

AYES.—IOI.
Bailey, Sir J. Graham, Lord M. Peacocko, G,
Ball, E. Greville, Colonel F. Percy, J.
Barrow, W. Groc.n. Edward Pollard-Urquhart, W.
Itennet, Capt. P. Guinness, R S. Robertson, P.
Bentinck, G. Raiford, Sir Henry Bolt, P.
Blackburn, P. Hayes, Sir E. Sadlair, John
Booker, L W. Herbert, SW T. Shirley, E.
Brady,J. Borstal', T. Smijth, Sir W.
Bramley-M, ore, J. Joiliffe, Sir W. Smith, Abel
Brainston, T. W. KendaU, N. Spooner, R.
Buck. L. W. Kennedy. T. Stafford, A. '
Bulkeley. Sir R. Ktrinaird, A. Stirling, W.
Cay ley, E. S. Knatchbffil, W. Strickland, Sir G.
lecil, Lord . Knight,.F., . Stuart, W.
Challis, T. Leniox., Lord A. F. Swift, R.
Chambers, T. Lushingtou, C. M. Thesiger, Sir. F.
Child, Smith Macartney, G. Tollemache, S.
Choltnondeley, Lord MacGregor, James Tyler, Sir G.
Cobbold, J. C. Meagher, T. Vance, John
Cole, H. A. Miles, W. Vansittart, G.
Davies, J. Michell, William Vys., Col R.
Duffy, C. G. 31 oore, G. Waddington, E.
huncombe,llon.A. Morris, D, Walcott, Rear-Ad.
buncombe, 0. Mowbray, J. R. Walmsley, Sir J.
Dunne, Colonel Munlz, G. Whitmore, IL
Egerton, Edw. C. Murrough, J. P Williams, W.
Evelyn, W. J. Naas Lord Willoughby, Sir 11.
Fellowes, E. Ncwdegate, C. Wise, A.
Fitzgerald, W. IL S. North, Col. J. Would, B.
Forster, Chat les Northcote, Sir S. Wyndham, Gen.
1- oz, W. J. Oakes, J. . Wynne, W.
Frevven, C . 11. Oosuleton, Lord
t uller, A. E. Packs, C. TELLEES.
Gaiwey, Sir W. Palk, L. Cobbett J.
Gaskell, J. Palmer, Robei t Duncombe, Thomas

NOES-109.
Acton, Joseph Fitzgerald, J. Paget, Lord
Anderson, i-ir J. Fitzroy. Henry Palmerston, Viscount
Baines, lit. Hon. M. Fortescue, C. S. Peel, Sir R.
Baring, Sir F. Gardner, R. Peel, F.
Barnes, T. Gibson, M. Phillimore, J. G.
Bass, H. Goodman, Sir G. Pigott, F.
Baxter, W. Gordon, A. Price, Sir R.
Beaumont, W. Graham, Sir J. Ricardo, J.
Bell, J. Greene, Capt. John Ricardo, S.
Biggs, W. Grey, Rt. lion. Sir G .Rice, E.
Bland, L. H. Grey, R. Robartes, T.
Bonham• Carter, J. Hadfield, George Russell, F. C.
Bright, J. Hankey, T. Scully, F.
Brockman, E. D. Harcourt, Col. F. Seymour, Lord
Brown, H. Hutto, Alex. • Seymour, H.
Brown, W. Hestia, Archg. Seymour. W.
Brace, Lord E Heneage, Geo. U. Shafto, R.
Buller, cit. J. Heywood, J. Smith, J. B.
Cardwell, E. Hey worth, L. Smith, R.
Cheetham, John Higgins, G. 0. Stafford, Marquis
Cockburn, Sir A. J. E. Ingham. R. Stanley, Lord
Cowper, W. Jones, Capt. T. Steel, John
Craufurd, E. H. J. Kirk, W. Strati, Hon. E.
Crossley, F. Layard, A. H. Thompson, G.
Dasbwood, Sir G. Lee, W. Thomely, T
Divett, E. Lewis, Sir G. C. Villiers, C.
Duff. G. Locke, J. Whatman, J.
Duff, J. M‘Gregor, John Wickham, H.
Duncan, Viscount Milligan, R. Wilkinson, W.
Dune en, George Milne', R. Wilson, 3.
Dunlop, A. BA itchell. T. A. Wood, Sir C.
Elliott, J. E. Monereiff J. Wortley, J. S.
Fmlyn, Viscount Montgomery, Sir G. Wrrill, 31.
Fagan, W. Norreys, Sir D.
Fenw.ck, H. North, F.
Fergus, John Oliveira, B. TIMMS.
Ferguson, Sir R. Osborne, R. Hayter, W.
Filmer,Sir E. Otway, A. " Berkeley. G.

ELECTION OF PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATED SO-
CIETIES OF THE UNIVERSITY.---Pursuant to adjourn-
ment, the Associated Societies of the University of
Edinburgh met. last night to proceed with the elec-
tion of a successor to Sir E. Bulwer Lytton as ho-
norary president for 1855-57. Mr. Dove Wilson, of
the Diagnostic Society, occupied the chair. At the
nomination on the 27th ult., Sir G. Cornewall Lewis.
the Earl of Eglinton, Mr. Disraeli, and Mr. Thomas
Carlyle were severally proposed as candidates for the
office. The names of the two latter gentlemen
(the former of whom would have commanded a large
majority) were withdrawn by their respective proposers,
deel;natures having been received in the course of last
week from both the candidates, The field was thus nar-
rowed to the candidature of the Chancellor of the Exelie-
qutr and the Earl of Eglinton ; but, owing to an infer-
malty in demanding a poll for the noble lord at the no-
mination, a large majority of the meeting decided that no
vote could competently be recorded in his favour. The
chairman thereupon declared Sir G. C. Lewis duly
elected. A vote of thanks to Mr. Wilson for presiding
terminated the proceedings.— Witness.
WEST RIDING TESTIMONIAL TO THE EARL OF CARDI-
GAN.—A meeting of gentlemen, resident in the neigh-
bourhood of Leeds (where his lordship has extensive
estates), has just been held at the White Horse Hotel
in that, town, to consider the propriety of presenting
Lord Cardigan with a testimonial, as a mark of admira-
tie I of the unrivalled bravery of his lordship in the Cri-
mea. The meeting, which was large and influential, unani-
mously resolved to ask the earl's acceptance of a sword,
as the most appropriate offering. A subscription was
immediately set on foot, and a large sum was raised be-
fore the meeting separated, although it was agreed that
Wiyid94l pbßiptia should ouse4 pia&

After the st:ifffnent of the accounts had been read, on
the motion that the thanks of the society be voted to the
auditors,
Mr. C. DIL.KE said that at the anniversary dinner of
1853 the chairman of that dinner, illustrating the advan-
tages of the Literary Fund, quoted three cases in which
aid bad been afforded to men of learning and genius, but
Ive had been obliged to go back into the last century for
his examples. 11e even believed that these parties had
been relieved 20 years before the founder of this society
Oir. David Williams) died, and more than 20 years
belore the society had a corporate existence. He should
now say a few words as to the economy with which
this benevolence was granted. In 1802 it was stated in
a report issued by the secretary that all the offices were
discharged gratuitously except those of colle"tor and
intssenger, and it W4ll very natural that it should be so.
It was the policy of the founder that all the offices of.
the society should be gratuitously filled, and when, in
1805, he had collected a sum of 6,0001., and when the
income of the society was 8001. a-year, the Prince Re-
gent was asked to give the society a place of abode near
the Palace. The toander contemplated that any house
or museum which might be given to the society should
contain a library of books and -.manuscripts, and should
attract the subscribers as to a common centre of com-
munication and action. The founder hoped that the in-
stitution Eight one day become a college for decayed
and superannuated genius—the raostpitiable of all ob-
jects. If that common centre for literary men and pub-
lishers had been established, it would have been one of
the most beneficial things to literature and to literary
men that ever was projected. (Hear, hear.) The
Prince Regent did net give the society a house near
the Palace, but a sum of 2301. per annum was, by
his direction, charged upon the revenues of the duchy
of Cornwall to defray the expenditure for a house,
and the taxes. At the death of George IV. that
grant ceased, and now the society took its rank with
some others, and received an annual donation of 100
guineas from tie Crown. The society had a great room
which was only used nine times a-year by the committee.

In 1840 the dUties of the registrars were set down, and

it Witi arranged that a registrar should attend every
general meeting of the council and the general commit-
tee, that they should take minutes of the business trans•
acted and of the orders made at each meeting, and that
they should superintend the correspondence of the
society. Now, if the registrars performed that duty
without remuneration, what was there for any one else
to do ? The committee met nine times a-year. Thtre
were three registrars, and, if they divided the labours
between them, each registrar would have three meetings
to attend, each meeting occupying about two hours.
The first assistance which the registrars applied for was
a clerk at 401. per annum. The clerk had now grown
t) a secretary, and the 401. a-year had become 2001.,
while the same duty had been for years performed for
the Artists' General Benevolent fund for 501. The com-
mittee of that society met in a room at the Freemasons'
Tavern, which they paid for, and thus avoided a charge
for house-rent, and, as the committee met twelve times
a-year, the remuneration to the secretary of the Ar-
tists' Fund was 41. 4s. a-day, which he thought ample.
He knew that the comparison he bad before instituted
between the Lit3rary Fund and the Artists' Benevolent
Fund had been met by the answer that this was a
fund for the relief of members subscribing to another
fund for the widows and orphans of members,
and, therefore, that no preliminary inquiry was
necessary. Now, he could not admit that dis-

tinetion, for, if the committee of the Literary Fund pro-
perly represented the literary character of this country,
they would have some knowledge of men of genius and
learning, and he could not therekre admit the necessity
for this o•evious inquiry which lea to so large an expen-
diture of the society's funds. But he would give up the
Artie-ts' Benevolent Fund, and he would take the.A.rtis!s'
General Benevolent Fund, between which and the Lite-
rary- Fund there was no difference whatever. That fut.d
has subscribed fur artists generally, and he was sure
there %Val as much difficulty of inquiry in the one ease as
the ether. Collector's poundage (a per cn-Itage on the
money collected), alvertisements, arid expenses attend-
ing the anniversary dinner— charges which involved
questions of policy and management, and were therefore
open to di,eussion—he had omitted, and the compariscri
was confined t ) the cost, in each case, of like things
salary with salary, rent with rent, miscellaneoua y.ith
mi,;cel;aneeus. Mr. Duke proceeded to r.tad the follow-
ing summary :7--
LITERARY . aarisrs' BENEVOLE.NT Fran.
Applicants relieved at a cost Applicants relieved at a cost
of-- of—

IS4I, 31 ._ £535 610 53 17 9
1845, 38 483 16 2 43 82 810
1846, 46 ._ 515 13 7 42 -. 87 711
1847, 38 504 5 9 55 -. 106 19 2
1848, 50 498 11 10 54 ._ -. 86 5 0
1849, 41 _. -. 527 18 4 57 88 8 5
1856, 3S -. . 496 11 0 69 86 13 8

1851, 51 ... ... 528 14 6 63 EBB
1852, 49 ... ... 513 i 7 8 56 101 13 8
1E53, 47 506 4 5 65 8 14 4

429 £5,094 0 1 559 £904 17 1
(Cheers ) In other words, every draught drawn for the
benefit of applicants for the society's aid cost 11/. 17e.,
in addition to the sum voted by the committee for their
relief. (Hear.) He moved the following resolution :
" That, whereas during the 10 years from 1814 to 1833,
both inclusive, the cost of assisting 429 applicants to the
Literary Fund amounted to 5,0941. Os. M. (exclusive of
collector's poundage, advertisements, and expenses attend-
ing the anniversary dinner); and whereas the cost of assist-
ing 559 applicants to the Artists' General Benevolent Fund,
within the same 10 years, amounted to 9041. 17s. ld. (also
exclusive of collector's poundage, advertisements, and ex-
penses attending the anniversary dinner) ; this meeting is
of opinion that the expenses of managing the Literary
Fund are unreasonable and enormous, and that a great
change must be made in the administration of its affairs."
Toe CHAIRMAN asked if the resolution was an ame id-
merit to the motion before the meeting, or was proposed
as a substantive resolution ?

Mr. DILKE did not wieh to cast any itnpuf ation upon
the auditors, and wished his resolution to be added to
the thanks to the auditors.
Sir B. LYTTON seconded Mr. Dilke's resolution.

The Rev. Dr. RUSSELL did not think it fair to adduce
the rent of the Society's chambers as a sum withheld
from the claimants. The payment of a secretary was,
he thought, fairly justified by the result. The secretary
bestowed a great deal of labour in obtaining the money
which formed the society's income. The amount re-
ceived in 1554 in subscriptions, donations, &c., was
1,1261.—a resuit which was obtained in consequence of
the letters sent out by the secretary. This society was
regarded throughout the world as the representative of
the general interests of literature, and its annual meet-
ings had an interest truly national. The committee did
not like, from motives of delicacy, to specify those who
had been the objects of the society's bounty, although
they knew them to be deserving. Deducting altogether
the cost of the maintenance of the house, which he held
to be a part of tie concern, he then came to the question
of the payment of the secretary. Now, was he to be
paid at all, and, if so, did he receive an excessive salary ?
The society must have some gentleman to live in their
house to manage their correspondence, and to whom
persons who came for information could be referred. Mr.
Dilke said the rooms were only wanted nine times a year,
but how many times a year did literary persons come to
consult with Mr. Blewitt upon cases of distress ? Not
nine times a year, but every day in the year, and he
never came to the society's rooms without seeing some
one coming in or going out upon the business of the
society. lie did not think that the secretary was over-
paid by the sum he received, and he was, therefore, at
a loss to perceive how any fair charge of extravagance
could be alleged against the society.
The CHAIRMAN put the question, when there appeared
for Mr. Mice's motion, 28 ; against it, 32.
The motion was therefore lost.
Thanks were then voted to the auditors and the regis-
trars.
Previously to balloting for the president, vice-presi-
dents, and officers of the society,
Mr. W. DILKE said that he should not be supposed to
make this a personal question when be declared it to be
his opinion that the high office of president, now filled
by the Marquis of Lansdowne, ought to be filled, as a
question of principle, by the most distinguished literary
and scientific men who were subscribers to the institu-
tion. He accordingly moved that Mr. H. Hallam
be
selected to fill the office.

The Dean of ST. PAUL'S—Have you received the c,n-
sent of Mr. Hallam to this proposal
Mr. W. DILKE had not sought the consent of any
gentleman.

The CHAIRMAN stated that the proper course of pro-
ceeding was for each gentlernaa to hand up his ballot-
paper, when the name of any officer of tho institution
could be erased and any other substituted in its place.
Mr. C. DICKENS was one who held that this society
should be entirely in the hands of literary and scientific
men, and that no other human being Lad any business
with it. The committee had favoured the meehtiengcaned
with
the names of those whom they proposed, and
upon the chairman to read the names of those whom he
and his fr'ends proposed.
day laid upon the table his list there would have been no
The CHAIRMAN said that if any gentleman had yester-
day
on the
a 'TIM NA
part of the
,committee__l..._to_rie2e.i.:Lit and
PQit it. De 14.119tiiigTaPei: OW .- -,1" - -

The existing charter was so excessively ridiculous, so in-
consistmt, and so manifestly preposterous that it ought
to be abandoned by men of sound mind, memory, and
understanding. (A. laugh.) The charter having in an
express manner declared that there should always be a
council, and that the council, with the general commit-
tee, should always have the direction of the society's
affairs, he supposed that, out of the Literary Fund,
and the two great establishments of St. Luke's and
Bedlam, there could not be in this metropolis one hu-
man being who could doubt that this council was in-
tended to have a real existence and something to do. Ho
had had the honour to be elected some years ago upon
the council, and he had hoped that by study and fast-
ing he might be fit to discharge the high duties which
he supposed devolved upon that august body. For
months he never left home without leaving word where
he might be found in the event of the Literary Fund
wishing to take his counsel. (A laugh.) The. Literary
Fund, however, seemed to get on in its own manner,
without requiring his aid, but when the council met, and
where it met, and what it did, he never could learn.
The fact was that it never could meet, never did meet,
had no place of meeting, and nothing to do—that it was,
in short, the only thing in creation that had no purpose,
end, or object, in existence. (A. laugh.) What would
the public say of a board of directors that did not direct,
of a bench of judges who did not judge, of a jury that
did not deliberate or find a verdict, of ai physician ap-
pointed never to prescribe, of a surgeon directed never
to set a bone, of a fireman enjoined never to go within
50 miles of a fire, or of picked officers of the Humane
Society being tied up not to approach the water 3 (Much
laughter.) This was the case of the council at this mo-
ment. It was either used as a shelf for uncomfortable
members of the general committee, or it was used to
prop up the faults of the concern with the names of lite-
rary men who had nothing to do with it. The charter
was, in fact, utterly defective and rotten, inasmuch as it
appointed a council, but omitted to name its functions.
Mr. J. FORSTER seconded the resolution.
Mr. W. TOOKE admitted that a new charter might
tend to the benefit of the society if it could be obtained
at a certain expense, but a new charter would cost 3001.
or 4001. A meeting ought to be called specially to con-
sider the subject.
After some conversation, in the course of which Arr.
C. Dickens, at the suggestion of Mr. F. Pollock, con-
sented to add the words " or an act of Parliament" to
the words "apply for a new charter,"
Mr. Foss asked what practical inconvenience had
arisen front the appointment of a council ? The general
committee were fully able to manage the affairs of the
society, and they did not require the aid of the council.
The Dean of ST. PAUL'S suggested that the committee
should report the result of their deliberations to a special
general meeting summoned for that purpose.
The suggestion having been incorporated into the re-
solution, it was put from the chair and carried unani-
mously.

It was then resolved,
"That such committee be composed of the following
members :—The President, the Very Rev, the Dean of
St. Paul's, Mr. B. W. Proctor, Sir E. Bulwer Lytton,
Mr. J. Forster, Mr. W. M. Thackeray, Mr. C. Dickens,
Mr. R. Bell, the Rev. E. R. Gleig, Mr. C. W. Dilke,
Mr. W. Tooke, Sir H. Ellis, Sir J. Forbes, and Mr. J.
Auldjo."

Thanks having been voted to the secretary, and the
usual a •knowledgment having been paid to the chair,
the meeting separated.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

TATTERSALL'S.-THVBSDAT.

A very thin attendance, and only a small amount of
business transacted. The principal investments were
on Fandlno for the Great Metropolitan, Marc Antony
for the Chester Cup, and on Gra.sculus Esuriens and
Lord of the Lies for the D,rhy. The other quotations
are from bets which were laid.to various small surer.
GREAT METRO2OLITAN.
5 to 1 aget Pharsalus
10 to 1 agst Fandatuxo (taken)
100 to 8 aget Redlands (taken)
100 to S agst Vandyke (taken)
cuEsrEn CUP.
25 to
_1 agst Marc Antony (taken)
25 to 1- ag,4t Andover (taken)
40 to 1 aget Dr. O'Toole (taken)
THE TWO THOUSAND.
10 to 3 agst Lord of the Isles (taken)
12 to 1 agst Polydore (taken)
THE DERBY.
11 to 1 agst Rifleman (taken)
11 to 1 agst Grwculus Esuriens (taken)
12 to 1 agst Lord of the Isles (taken)
500 to 15 agst Saraband (taken)