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Highness when their fathers were in tootling, and knowing her
Illghnus•s manner of treating all around her, I do say
that there was not any thing in her conduct to authorise such ass
ah inton,
This answer excited great sensation in the House.
Did you ever wait at table yourself ?...No.
Did your mother ever wait at table ?—No.
Mr. Isnot: tilLssi—•• What, ask a Lieutenant in the Navy if
he ever was a servant."

Have you any relations who have ever Belled at her Royal
Highness's table ? believe not.
I desire to know whether you consider a common courier and a
Lieutenant in his Majesty's Navy equally entitled to sit down at
table with her Royal Highness ?...I consider that any person sit.
ting down at her Royal Highness's table, by her Royal High.
ness's command, would authorise a person of much higher rank
than a Lieutenant in the Navy to sit down at table with him.
No other of their Lordships having any questions to put to the
witness,

The ATTORNEY •GENE UAL requested to be permitted to ask
witness if he had a Genoese servant of the name of Francisco, at
Ituccanelli ?...I bad a servant of that name, but not when at
The witness was ordered to withdraw.
Granville Shaw., EsT was called in, and being sworn, was ex.
amused by Mr. DEN MAN.
nave you resided in India ?...Yes, I have.
Did you ever see the Moorish dance called, Dimma Dims?"
...l have seen the Moorish dance, but I do not know that it, was
distintmished by that name.
Was it accompanied by any expressions ?...Yes by various un.
mooting words which I do not reeolket.
Was there any thing inil..emt in that dance, or unfit fiu a
woman to witness ?...Certainly not.
Where arc the hands placed during the dance ?...In varicus
positions, genemlly abort the head.
Was it accompanied by gestures ?...Yes, throughout.
And unmeaning sounds, which formed a tune to dance to ?...
Yes, they sing to kind of tune.
Where have seen this dance ?...In Calcutta.

In what place ?..At the Government house.
Who were present ?...The Governor General the Marquis of
I fast ings.
Was the Marchioness of Hastings there ?...Yes, she was.
And other ladies 9... Yes there were other ladies.

Was the Bishop of Calcutta present ?...He was.
And the Bishop's lady 9...Ye5, she was present.
I need not therefore ask if there WAS any indecency ?...Certainly
there was no indecency.
And that is the common Moorish dance ?...lt is.
Cross-examined by Mr. PARKE.
There are many other Moorish dances in India 9...Ye5, but they
arc all of the same character, only some arc quicker and some
slower.

Their Lordship did not ask the witness any questions, and he
WWI ordered to withdraw. .

Swaim) Guviare was sworn and examined by
Dr. LUSIIINGTON.

I have been in the service oldie Priocess of Wales as factor.
It was my duty to keep watch over the working people; to mark
down their accounts, and pay them their wages on the Saturday ;
to take care of the wine for tile family ; and to do all other services
required by the master of the house. I performed these duties
in the Villa d'Este, in the gardens of the Villa d'Este, the vine-
yards, &c. I know Luigi Galdini. lie is a mason by trade.—l
employed him at two 11iilan livres wages per day. Ido not know
I'aolo Rugazzoni. 1 remember the Grotto at the Villa d'Este.
I remember there being two sta'utes there of Adam and Eve.--
They were placed in the grotto of the first rotundas. 'filere was
not die least alteration made in any of the rooms where the sta.
tutes stood. There was nothing done to the cornices of the
rotunda or octagonal roma in which they stood. There was a cor-
nice made in one of the other octagonal rooms.
Ask him to describe the rooms in which the statutes were F
Witness asked for some parer, and made a drawing of the
grotto, and the rooms where t.ie statutes were placed, and the
won, where the cornice was repaired, with the passage.
Could a poison working at the corner of the room possibly
see the statutes in the other, in which they were placed 4—They
could not.

Why I...because the passages of tho ootninunication is crooked
which prevents tne sight.
Did the statutes of Adam and Eve ever stand in any other
room in that grotto, except the one ht: has described I... They did
not.

Was there auy other room in the grotto except (the one he has
mentioneit Y—lt was made into two rooms, in a square room,
the one ! have marked.

Could you see statutes in any of these rooms, where the cor.
nice was made _ _

When were the statutes removed from that grotto ?...Before
the return of her Royal Highness.
Return front where Y... Her return from her journey in Turkey.
To what room where these statutes removed ?...Into one of the
Mosaic rooms which were built in that palace.
Were these rooms finished before the return of the Princess
They were.
The workmen were also removed; they had all left these
rooms. The Fe:Adding was also removed front the Mosaic
rooms about eight or ten days before the Princess's return. The
rooms were then fit for the reception of her Royal Highness. I
ermie direct from Villa d'Este. 1 saw several persons of Govern-
went taking designs and plans, but this I don't know. I saw an
architect, named-Ralli, taking plans for her Royal Highness. I
do not know the exact epoch. It is about three or tour
months from this time. The architect Ralli lives at Milan.
came with witnesses here. Fourteen witnesses—(a buz in the
house.) I did not conduct the witnesses here.
When did you set out to come here ?...On the lOth of Septem•
bur the last time.
Were you examined before you came here was.
Where /...At Milan.
By whom ?...Tie• Advocate Covatzi,and an Englishman named
Henry. I told what was true to the Advocate.
I lave you received any thing for yourself ?...I have not.
Are you to reeevive any thing ?...l ask for nothing. if her
Majc,,ty will snake me a present I will receive it, but I will ask
for nothing. I came here to tell the truth.
rlxamined by the l'cers.
Earl GROSS' ENOII.-1 request to lurk at the sketch of the
rooms drawn by the witness. It was handed to his Lordship.
Eva 'Lined by Mr. Piake.
When was this plan inatle?--About half an hour before I
cumeto this House,

1s it a corrL plan of the grotto?...ft is.
Could a person so placixl behind the piLster sec the statues of
Adam and Eve believe not, Lee:Lase the pilaster is out of
the room, and en the side of the room where thi7 ►tatucsare.
GUISIPPE GARMAN]. sworn.
Examitml by A:r. 11'iliia .u.

From what country do you come ?...From
What lu.inrs ur: you ?...A nutsou.
WiLS you ever employed by the Princess of Wales at the Villa
d'Fitc ? .1 was.

Did you know a per-on named Itep:zzoni '...1 did.
h he 3 muster workman. or a ethrinon •,,or:snian is a
day workman. lie Lot him under hi, erif ;0) n:Lnt at Villa
d'Este. lie remembered there belly, st;cl;;.... in the grotto, there
was a scatfuliling up in a p..rt o: that was the only
scaffolding; from this seaflithling it was not possible, by any
means, to see them, as the passage was winding. He knew a
person of the name of Hasteili, his other name was Jaseppi, saw
him blame he telt Afilait

Do you recollect any thing being said by.fiastalli about vii.
nesse, being wanted to appear against the Pi-Incas.
The Solicitor-General objtntel to the question, unless Baste
evidence pointed to it.
Mr. Brougham.— We have two grounds for examination. The
first is the agency of Haste second, Rutslli's own ad.
mission. The Solicitor General said, Has telli had denied giving
money to any witnesses, but if his Learned Friend could prove
he did give money to a witness, it would be open to him to do so.
The Lord Chancellor... .We will go on with the examination
to.morrow.—The House adjourned.
TENTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE.
FRIO aT, OCT. IS.
At twenty minutes past ten Counsel were called to the
Bar.

Lnrd LAUDERDALE expressed a wish Clint Lieutensuot
Hownam should produce his diploma as it Knight of St.
Caroline,

fiaisippe Garolini, the witness ■nder examination at Ik.
adjournment of the House last evening, was again called to
the Bar, sad his examination proceeded.
You were employed as a builder at Villa d'Este I—yes ;
as master.
Were you paid as you went along, 'or was there a bill run
up 7—Refire her Royal Highness set out fur her lung
j. a ney I was paid regularly; after her departure we entered
iota a contract fur 74,000 livres, under the directing of
Rat°, the stchttect ; after this there wit: more work, aid
the anicotot was I.la,:iuu livres.
Daly nit eser see ltistelii at the time that sum was due to
3 Du ie.-- lc es.

Do sou remember his tneutioninit tilat bill I—lie iwilicd
one if that wa.: ut) hill, and [ said, after deducting what 1- bad
received, there remained 43,500 lime,
Was nny thing said about the manner in which this should
be paid ?—Yes.
What was it 1—

The So Limon-Gin FRA r, objected to this conversation.
Tha LORD CHANCELLOIL—Yois may, I think, ask
the witness, does he know of Rastelli having offered
himself the witness, or any other individual money.
Mr. William.—May I not ask, did be offer money, or
money's worth.
Do you recollect at any time Rastelli offering yoo any
money ?—He said, if my account was not liquidated, to
give it to him, and he would contrive to see me paid.
IVlsat were you to do for tbat?-114. told me to give my
account to him, for there were Englishmen at Milan, and
he would see sue paid.
What did he say, at the same time, you were to do l—
ife told me, if I had any thing to say against her Royal
Highness, as I had been a long time in her service, to tell
it to him, and he would endeavour to see me paid.
At that semi time, or et any oilier, had you any con-
versation with Rastelli as to what you were to du as a
witness?
The Solicitor General objected to this question.
Lord ERSKINE was decidedly of opinion that the
House must adopt one of two causes; either they mast
allow the present examination to go on, or they mast call
Rastilli back again, that he might be confronted with the
present a itness. In ordinary cases, the trial was finished
in a day, and sorry was he tact he had lived to see trials
extended to two or three days; it was a great evil, and
ought never to have been suffered. It was a practice
infringing on the rides of justice, and the present was one
of the evils arising out of this course.

Lord LIVERPOOL did not rise to give any opinion on
this point of turn, but only to say, he had not the smallest
objection that at the proper time the conduct adopted 111
those Gentlemen who had formed what was called the
Milan Commission, should undergo the fullest investiga-
tion.

Lord CARNARNON—" My Lards, It is impossible to
proceed one step further in this odious, profligate, and dela&
able measure, a ithout having before us every particular
relative to this agency. Until the transactions are unravelled,
the characters of all those who have had any concernin the
Commissions or were at its disposal, and under its authority
are practically tainted.—A discredit is fixed upon them,
which is of itself calculated to destroy the case which has
been brought forward in support of the bill.—(Hear, bear.)
I cannot bring myself to think that year Lordships would,
after the establiAiment of that which has been just stated at
the Bar, think of entertaining, for one hour longer, a Hill
which has been the greatest curse thug Las ;ever fallen upon
this country !—(Loud Lind repeatiM cries of hear, hear,
bear !) if l am mistaken in supposing so, I can say that
*se are doing neither more nor less thansigning the death war-
rant of the British Cllll/411Uli ~,, !( Loud cries of hear!)—
and maitre li ii ing all the securities of national justice, stabi-
lity, and honour l--(Hear, Lear 1)—I minim consider this
question us a matter of dry law. It appears from the evi-
dence, which, on one vide, is concluded, that !Mee years
have elap,ed since any of the arts to wlueli that evidence
refers a ere ciiminitted—a period of such length, that even
if treason had been the crime alleged, it could not have been
tiled. It is not a case which line. fered wall the interest, of
every one, not even, as far as I can see, with the private
interests of thuse who have entangled themselves in tem pru-
ceeding and wished toemangle in it every interest in telecoms.
try. 'Choy have Nought odium on the Guver 1111 l esti; they have
eteaeil a freeing, which never can be excited without
daii.ter—ilut probably immediate danger, but danger that
can &revue be small, ill 4 country a here popular teciiiig must
be nepillar 'mil prop of all its inatitutioust— (Hear, hear.)
They have excited a feeling is hid* is supping the foundations
of all that is valuable and dear to us. Although l may base
hitherto abstained from calling on your Lordships to pia an
cod to this pi oceeding, under 411 111111/1C,S101) that there
possibly belgrounds w Melt made the necewity tar it imperious,
can no longer he withheld from doing SO, when, 1111 Ille
I% hole face of the ease, as %Arena in es ideoce, their is nothing
a h it ever to Warrant it, even as a 1111./1116 Of expediency.--
And what sut.;L• fur iuietierrnce Call be more paper than
present I—titbit. charge the agents of the prwrerubon
he sulnintili.tled,i* there one of yimir Lordships who will nut
think that the gteati•st service you can do to the advocates
tit the the patty interested in it—if such party exists,
:hough wiwie I know. not ! %sill be to rid them of the tires-
...we of the inillrltine a hi, Ii they have got round their Ile': he.
std vs hitch threatens to drag down not only them, hot rimy
thing on a Mel' the hopes of the emsntry are set i—
hear, hear !)—ilan ever 1114011111 it may be in ordinary cases
to interfere iii the midrt of a prose. ution, I conceive that
every consideration of mate or form ought to give nay in a
cast like the pre,eot, the moment you have evidence helot!,
sou Or a ,saris. ofsubornation of pt- jury on the part sit the
! 1 think (lint your Lordship 4 We bound to re-
ceive ev..!cnee (Atha* subaqua' mu mid hbr ill,: cut s, bl nb, il,
that you will not do ju 'tire it' sou do nut instantly torow nut
one !"--(tii, 1.0 ,15e,i, 1.4%.1%;%14.%%,411il hold cheers from
ail pasts of ths (toast. ,