The National Register.
London, England, 1819-03-07 00:00:00

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ceeded with equal meps, and in parallel lines; and they also
complained .of the deficient edacatiou .of children. Tile
Committee who pnrsned .onky a single branch of allot vast
engairy which was 40 bedieut to one Committee by the Noble
Lord. occupied two years before they ruold,colue to any
specific decision, ur riterlllllllellll a isty tireelSe IlieliAlire. Another
defeciin the Noble Lorire,plan was, them() probable rein, sly
WAS IMMO, the evil was pointed nun, lint about remedy ,
nothing wasesid.—He would not dare to call an Parliameut
to enquire if he,conld not show that some remedy would be
the probable result.—(lleur, hear!)—He should lint eOlitent
Himself with enumerating the increase of mime—with•
illustratiou of what the Noble Lord7called the "golden age
of crimes," (a laugh)—he watidur enqiiiry, du see where it-
inendit.ent email be introduced. He was not about to propose
a new criminal code; he desired nothing of the kind; he.
was nut anximis to disturb what might be meritorious. He
was desirous that 'awe should be more certain ; that the re-
miseion of punishment should be the exception, and not the
general ride. (Hear, bear!) He wished to restore cuutidence
in the laws, and to. encreese respect for the administrators
of them. As to the state of crime, be agreed that there was
no herease of atrocity in (deuces encl. se to affect the
ancient moral character of the conutry. The increase of
crime was partly owit'e. to the distresses .of the dimes, and
partly to the 14W and etude of eaecutiug it. Among the
enumeration of crimes, they ought out to forget what resulted
front erroneous principles of Legislation, such as the game
IaWS, and the regulations .regarding contraband geode. —The
poachers and smugglers greatly increased offenders.; mai it
was indeed hard, that Nor yea's after peace not one pro-
Minim)/ regulation had been repealed.—(Hear.)—With his
impressions, buwever, it would be :unpardonable to omit
noticing. that the flambee of oilences had increased since the 1
year 1803 that was the yhar when the large liaok
paper ismues connuenceil—hgiic, that in tact tended to lessen •
one third in amount the tragcb of the poor.--. Touching
seberity of the laws as, thoy.stond on the Statute Book, Up-
wards of two linnilsed ulfences were mile pionichable wit
death, but not above twenty-live of :mill laws were enroleed
to toe letter. :inlet. Use .IteVollitign of Went when the
Country had been blessed with what lre.wotdd call a Perlia-
most Government, there had been unfortunately ton great
a facility of legislation. Members who had been enrols to do
ally thing else had muctired a law making a•felony 0.5.10 tit
benefit of clergy ; anti to such a stale had criminal laws Cr.
rived, that fur hair a century Judges, Juries, all parties had
"rwillireti" to eentitetact the operation of thrir unuecesairry
severity.---f }-Tear.)—Ought Seek a state fillet, to exist ? The
Hutt-enforcement of punishment did not proceed on any regu-
lar principle ; litany sit the laws (right 01 nine) were enforced
neatly to the letter; wLile others weie rarely carried into
esecutiam. very many of thew not all. Melly of them, nu/
being enforced, ought to b: expunged, as giving a sanguinary
character to our Criminal Code. Uniting ss hop-bine; appear-
ing disguised, according to tile Librelt Act—breaking the
head of a fish pond, were severally punishable with death.—
'rouse Arts iiit,•Olting the punishment of death, which had not
been cofniceil for the Tart 70 years,oactii to tie erased from
the statute hooks: he Arnica no one would Da.,/ that con-
tionance of laws which were never tufo-err' when violated,
was lint iiiiiichissvons and .peinseione.—(Hear.)—lle was nut
fur imposing a general rule of law taking ow as all discretion,
flit nothing would be more unjust.-(Hear.)—He concluded
wish Incising fur a Committee.
Lard CASTLLREAOH opposed the motion, maintaining, that
(after the decision of the House the previous evening) it was
unnecessary.; that the Cuminittre elraady moused could and
would puraue the desired eeoqui'yt anti he therefore moved
tile previous question.
Mr. F. iturroe strongly sapported theareiginal motion.
Mr. CounTKNAY, in au argumentative speech, stated his
reasons for not acceding to the motion of his Honwirable and
Le trued Fr,en I (so J. Mackitiloch).
Mr. LAWSON spoke against the Olotiou of Sir J. Mack-
intosh.
Srr C. MORDAUNT SAW, he should must decidedly ?Me for
the proposition of the Hunan' able aml Learatil Gentleman
(h'ir J. Meekilitosh):
Mr. J. Still If declared, that he should vote, for the motion
of his tionoisrabie and Learned Fumed (Sir J. Mackintosh).
Mr. LITILEfON supported the rbutir.

Ur. Pau miitiane sp"oko in fawner of the motion.
Mr. Wil.stu'r observed, that a Ministers and not compre-
hended the subject in their COMinittre, he 'Mould have voted
Jur illeki4uoulAule and Learned Gentleman's niutiou.
Mr. Wit.i.ciodaca, in in eloquent and impressive speech,
Popported lige mutton.
Nlr. CANNING warmly eulogised the manner in tablet& the
mutton had been brought forward, hat saw no reason for the
appOillltilent of a Committee.
Mi. Scant/al' and Mr. Alderman Wool& supported the
motion.

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The ATTORNEY OMBRA!. spoke at some length against
the lii,,tion; and concluded by supporting Ole preViuus

lion. •
Sir J. Mammon; replied, and real the 1141110 S of the fol-
loWinq Niembei;l, whom, if hit nuitiuit succeeded, be should
propeae to form the Committee :

Alderman Wood.
Ntr. Benuct,

Mr. Bathurst,
Mr. Searle[[,
The Attorney General,
Mr. Wilberforce,
Lord A Wimp,
Lord Nugent.
'e Solicitor General,
Mr. Ali,rc,lniiie,
Mr. Courit.n.iy,
Mr. N'ernon.
Tbe question eras then pat, laraagen were ordered to
withdraw, and a division taking place, ike numbers were,
rot s,, 'wt.°. I IT
Against it 128

M r ,

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Mr. BroJvanl.
Mr. Baxton,
Mr. Ithilimore,
Mr. W. Wynn,
Mr. Maclon4ll.,
Mr. Iluw.srat.

I►l.ijority naive* Ministers 19
When the ininsbers rime ganotniced, a load cueering
Lend was
from thr Oepoaitioo.
The ether Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the liouse adjeus tied.

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WEDNESDAY.
Sri I. COFFIN presented 111{1101111 Petitions front Aifferent
MIA'S ill Monnionthabire, praying, that Ito alteratiou might
is►e place in the Duties on Coals and. Cutin 'Carried coast-
nef.e.
'the SPEAKER acquainted the MUM., that the Right Hon.
D. U. Daly had nut entered into recegmaancesio pooecutv
tue tianway Elecimu Petition; iu ctsmeoeuee of whichlUt
order fur the Committee on that Election wa., dt,chart,- Fl.
Colonel PALMIER preienteti 114.4111 Bath agitnat the
Insolvent Pelitot.,' Act.
LAW up the tabic.