The National Register.
London, England, 1822-07-29 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTEIt

The King's Bench Bill was read a third time, end passed.
Mr. COURIEN AY presented the report of the fias Wash-
ings' Bill.
Further consideration of the report postponed till-morrow.
Mr. S. RICE presented a petition from inhabitants of Surrey
and Middlesex, praying the House to take into consideration
the distresses of Ireland.
Mr. H. GURNEY said, that the Pour Lows ought to be ex-
teotled to Ireland.
Mr. S. RICE trusted that there would be no such extension
of the Poor Laws. Petition ordered to be printed.
LICENSING SrsTest.—On the question that the Lords'
Amendments to the Licensing 11111 be agreed to,
Mr. G. BENNET expressed his regret at the amendments of
their lordships ; they made the bill worse than what it was be-
fore.—Amendments agreed to.
The punishment by Hard Labour Bill was read a third time,
and passed.
The report of the Tythe Leasing Bill was presented and
agreed to.
Mr. lIUME moved for accounts of loan: contracted since
1793, and various other accounts. Also of expired annuities,
or those that might have fallen in since 1793, Sec.—Ordered.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from Mr. Bredlield, of Par-
liament-street, coal-merchant, complaining of the present state
of the coal metage; of the negligence of the present principal
coal meters; and praying for a revision of the laws on the sub-
ject, ender which the public now so severely suffered. The
petitioner had preferred charges against some persons, and, as
he represented, they had been proved to the satisfaction of the
Treasury. The hon. member said he should hereafter move for
returns of the principal coal meters.
Mr. LUSHINGION thought if there were any ground for
complaint, they should have heard as much from the coal mer-
chants. . . . .

Mr. HUMS replied, that one of the principal coal meters
bad been absent in Ireland for a year, as a isommissioner of in-
quiry into the state of the revenue; now %hat check would be
for tile public ?—Petition ordered to be printed.
Politic PRF:3S, SCUTLAND.--..LOrd A. HAMILTON lament-
ed his absence yesterday, when the Lord Advocate hrought
forward his motion. He now wished to know %rliether there
id been any dismissal of Mr. Ayton, the sheriff substitut, of
Lanarkshire, or whether any hint had been gi%eu that would
secure his retirement.

Mr. PEEL said, he had not felt himself called upon to re-
cuatmend the dismissal of such individual.
The House went into a committee on the affairs of the late
Queen.
Mr. LUSHINGTON moved a grant of 82471. to make up
the snot of 12,0001. that would hare been due to the late
Queen Caroline.
Mr. HUME expressed his astonishment at the breach of faith
of which the ministers had bet-ti guilty. They held out, if
their case were proved, that her Majesty should then hale the
regular outfit, &c. ; that justice had hot been done. The debts
of the late Queen w ere 31,0001.; the assets were only 26,0001.
why did not the government make up such deficiency ? It
was expected that her Majesty was to cave a carriage, ‘cc.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that her
Majesty had a liberal allowance, and that the whole quarter
was now proposed to be made nut.
Mr. Alderman WOOD said that her Majesty's debts, when
she died, amounted to only 4,1001. ; that they were occasioned
by extra demands, which a letter of veto high authority de-
clared should be paid ; and that had she lived over the quarter,
all the debts would have been paid.
Mr. T. WILSON observed, that if the debts were so small
in amount, he thought the Parliament would not act unwisely in
detisying them. (Hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECUER understood that
all just demands were to he paid.
Hr. lIUME observed that he wooLf produce Lard Liverpool's
letters, suing that such expences were to be incurred, the
house, the carriage, and the like; and he would put it to tile
house and the country, whether any one could have expected
such expences were to be met by the Queen's salary.
Alderman WOOD asked, if such were not the intention, why
persons were sent to ascertain whether the carriages, &e. were
worth what were to be charged for them t (Hear.) Resolution
agreed to.
Mr. GOULBURN moved a grant of 30,0001. to carry on the
Works at Dunleary, now called George IV:a Harbour.—
Agreed to.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT moved 7,2001. for commissioners of
courts of justice ; and 20,0001. for African fort.. Agreed to.
Lord PALMERS roN brought forward the proposed grant
regarding the Opthalmic !Invite!, moving that 1,0001 be granted
to Sir W. Adam for four years' attendance to the hospital.
Mr. G. BENNET contended that the expenditure for this
opthalmic establishment had been most improvident ; and that
the opthahnia was vulgarly called Egyptian. Sir W. Admit,
after trying his own plan without effect, was obliged to resort
to the old system of management—the mild, humane, and ra-
tional system of Dr. Vetch, and the practice of ISO. Yet to
that excellent individual they could only get one word of com-
pliment into the report by mere foree. All the medical autho-
rities who had exerted themselves, and who might he supposed
to have resisted, were unsuspected. He was ready to admit
that Sir W. Adam was entitled to remuneration for attendance.
Tu that he should have no objection. He thought him entitled
to 2,0001. instead of 4,0001. He concluded with moving to
substitute 2,0001. ins cad of 4,000. . .

The amendment was negatived without a division. Report
to-morrow.

-- house then went into a committee respecting the printing
of ancient histories.

The CHANCELLJR of the EXCHEQUER brought for-
ward the proposition for an address to his Majesty, iirajing
that he would be graciously pleased to order that the ancient
records of the kingdom be printed, and that the house wuulti
wake good the expence attending the same.
After some conversation the address was agreed to.
The house then went lido a committee on the Superannuation
Act Amendment Bill. _

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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated the
nature of the bill to the committee. Its object was to deduct
from the salaries of certain individuals holding public offices a
per centne on their salaries, by which n fund was to be formed
to provide to a certain extent tnr their superannuation, alter a
certain period of services, or other circumstances obliging them
them to retire. The committee proceeded to d.scoss the several
clauses. Ou that which prov ided tuat salaries from 301. to MI.
a year should pay 2), per cent.
Mr. CALCRAFI objected to bringin; the scale below 1031.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQIER said, he was
ready to adopt this objection of the hon. gent. he had fixed SOl.
to avoid any objection whidi might arise in the committee. lla
would now propose, that the scale sho•dd coma: nee at 1001.—
Ftotu 1001. to 2001. to pay 21 per cent. ; alu..ae 2041. to 1,3.) 5
L.Cr c•t:t. The eianse souehdr.d en flit ••pt
Toe geVqlll other -.11..;*es o,* tit* Dal w.:e, sciute ~.etv

sation agreed to, and the bill ordered to be reported to-morrow -
The other orders were disposed of, and the bons. adjourned.
I.!k•DAY. JULIi 2.4
The Orphans' Fulid 8.11, and the Wooers* Bill (Ireland)
were read a third time and passed.
Petitions were presented from Finchlay, against the High-
gate Chapel Bill.
A petition was present vl frem Hammersmith, complaining
that the Middlesex Water Works Company did not pay poor
rates.
Mr. BBNNET presented a petition from Debtors who had
been committed from the King's Eolith prison to Hursemonger•
lane jail by the Marshal. The bon. member was confident the
practice was illegal, ■nd he should briu{ forward the whole
question next session.
Petitions from Brown and another individual were read, and
ordered to be printed.
The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER brought in th►
18,500,0001. Exchequer Bills 11111.—Read a first time.
The Isle of .11ati Postage Bill was ordered to be read a
third time.

The report of the Commercial Credit Bill (Ireland) was
agreed to, end ordered to be read • third ti ne to-morrow.
Mr. LUSHINGTON presented the report of the committee
respecting the printing of sncient histories.
Mr. DAWSON took this oppoitunity to deny what had been
ettributcd to him by the Morning Herald, of accusing Mr.
Guthrie of malevolence in his resistance to Sr' W. Adams.—
The report was incorrect. He wade this correction, because
the misrepresentation had given much pain. Report agreed to
and address ordered.
Mr. GRANT presented a petition from the Grand Jury of
Louth against the Constables' Bill.
The report of the Canada Go. cruelest and Trade Bill was
taken into further consideration and agreed to.—Ordered to be
rend a third time to-morrow.
EAST INDIA SUGAR TRADE BILL.-011 the question that
the Eaat India Sisgar Trade Bill be committed,
Mr. FORBES contended that whatever relief might be in-
tended for the West Indies, ought not to he at tie eapeace of
the East Indies. He complained that the East Indio interests
were not sufficiently represeeted in that house, He concluded
with moving that it be an instruction to the company to have
power to alter that part of the bill which imposed • duty of 21.
.is. on East India sugar per cwt.
Mr. LUSH INGTON said, the greatest inxiety had existed
to adjust couOicting inte:estsun this point; and that if any party
bad reason to complain of advantage having preponderated, it
aertaiuly Was not the East linlia iuterest. The goverument was
not indifferent to this question. The instruction was unneces-
sary, Where the qualities of the sugars were the same there
might to be like duties. He thought the act ought to be re-
newed for anether year.
Mr. MONEY said, this subject 'had been very properly
brought forward. He deemed the motion unanswerable. The
objection Ass to the word " value"—to enact respecting sugar.
of the same value ; sod he could not see where could be the
objection to snake that clear in the bill which was avowed to
base been the intention of the government. This bill would
amount to a prohibition ; if it were intended to prohibit The
importation of East India sugars, it would be more manly to
bring in a bill ou the question at once.
Mr. FORBES esid lie bad opposed the bill in all its stages ;
when there were half a dozen members present ; oo the second
reading when there were a dozen preterit.
The gallery was then partly cleared for a division, but the
opposition to Mr. F.'S 11101 jun wan withdrawn, and the instrue-
trim was agreed to.
The hilt was then referred to • committee. Report to.
morrow.
SINKING FUND TIFSOLVTIONS.—Mr. HUME rose to bring
forward the sinking fund reaulutions, of which he had repeatedly
given notice. He denied it to be in the power of figures to
to make out the advantages for which Mr. Pitt and others had
contended. The public were enormous losers by the transac-
tions connected with the sinking fund. They lost, in the first
place, all the evinces of management, and thee the redemption
of portions of the debt on worse terms than those on which the
debt was contracted. He had ascertained that during the war
there had been been an excess of expenditure of 123,000,0001.
—There was a loss in the simple tratisactiun of uniting alone
amouuting to 5,000,0001.; that was n diatint loss to the public.
—There had al.-, been a great loss by coutractiug the debts in
various stock—a loss to the amount of 25,0J0,00J1. Thereby
conaiderable anneal evence, was entailed on the country, as
the hon. member proceeded to prove by various calculations
respecting the ditkrent species of mock. He then proceeded
to notice the produce of the taxes, which produce had been
114,003,0001. while the expenditure was 1235,000,1103. in
giving the Animist of taxes he omitted the loans. Having
illustrated his resolutions, which were thirty eight in number,
and were very long, he concluded with moving them. The fol-
lowing is the lirst resolution
That the national debt of Great Britain unredeemed on the
3th of Jan. 1793, was 230,350,1151. consisting of 227.9e:3.1491.
of funded, and of 11,361,0001. of Exchequer Bills, at an annual
charge M 9,203,9741."
The following are ()there of his resolutions •—" That the
debt has actually been increased to the amount above stated,
ul 603,449,5591. at an enema charge of e5,312A1701. ; hereby
demonstrating that the milling fund system was founded iu
lacy, and had been meintained by deluaion.
" That, whether the financial system of the country be re-
garded, in reference to the increased barthen of 1,141.2671
per ammo, occasioned by the cominissioncrs of the sinking fund.
in merely purchasing stock on worse terms than at which it
was created, Nc.
" That, on taking a retrospective view of the result of •
sicking feud, if live 111111k/11S per annum are applied fur 10 years,
in the purchase of stock, at the rate of alt. money fur every
1001. of 3 per rent. capital, cancelling the stuck as it is pur-
dinned, it will alford an minted remission of taastiun to the
amount of 165i1551. and it will redeem in ten years 61,726,3201.
of three per cent. ',spilt I. (as state; io the pallet/tottery paper
No. 151 of 15.:2) the dividends on which will be 1,551,14
affording an aggregate remission of taxation annually t r :hat
amount, at the expiration of ten years, effected at the aggregate
expence of 30,00J.0061. of tastes ;—but if 3 millions per annum
are employed as a sinking fund for 10 yeati, in the purchase of
stock at the rate of NI:. money for 1001. of three per cent. cav-
il', with the dividends sccrnieg thereon, the aggregate sums
will purchase in that time 73,101,4371. of three per cents. as
stated in the puha eentary paper before referred to), the di. i-
deride on which will be :.,103.0131., affording at the ear.ra:son
of that titne a remiseion o: tisemem to thet amount, but :10 relief
whatever, in the imerval of the 10 years, effected at the aggre-
gate eapeace of 59,103,0431. oh' tax: a.
" That by 11. e preceding resolution. it is -een, that under the
operation of a sinking lend of five millions per 'annum, at com-
pound intrrett, no relief whatever from taeutim will be afforded
1,3 this wenn.; far test years. w bilst the inain.eliste Ett4ll4l4oa of
ruultr !kr LI! sir ivy ;40.)

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