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etsentiel to s. _ case for the pruerteullA• now I the- Jeastesedissoar *twined
IraViog closed, the time for the dente. was eolie, end' this . which their Lordship* had _ Counsel fur the
be erisisidered the.propee perioilto ink the ilteselreel flake, 1 Qieen, of postponing the eras,.. osinati 0000 of the wit.
wished for that time which the pledge given by the Howie , n sees, by which the ease in support of the Bill might have
secured to them. helm esorpended in a similes. manner ; and, utterly at a Ike
The Lord Chancellor said, that he hail always tinderetooil as lee (lArd D'ostier) was to know by what analogy of "NM
vetted Colonel said they were ready to proceed to the State- ! reeding that whit"' /1/311 gratited io the Fanner instance,
meet of their CAM', that they neer ready to go in the wort could now lie refused in this, he ceold nri4 thing his • I
way; that they wire prepeied with witnesses to establish : to vote for the motion of Ike Noble Lord. The Net.le
the ease put forth in their statement ; thia Wl* the course io Lord who had last spoken, had defeteted she whole counts
onlinery eases. He did not, in his present view of the of the pros ...rags whet, bail hems raveled its this impair+
etion before their Lordship+, see any reason fur stippling taut ;,..4 had c0wt,,,,,e,i old it was iniemsaiidathato,3,
any other !Me of proceeding than that which had been moved Mher should h .ve lota adnmed, amides the numberless dif.
by his Noble Friend. a fleillties with which it had been surrounded. Those who
Lord Caltborpe said he was very unwilling to speak in a ' advocated such proceedings, might be well carotene to retain
depreciating manner of the cotose of proceeding which their : that opinion. It haul been +aid by many, that their
Lordships hod derided npon pursuing in this reset but be emits, lay throneh a choice of diffit Otos. 11.. (Lord Dare.
must state his belief that if there was any one thistle in this • ley) would say, those difficultite might have keen avoided;
country more euleelated than another incosumand reqtret r the Wosr bad brouzltt themselves iutu thirds by a vicious
• high veneration of its insiitutitutp, it was the I.lwinis era. ! rutirlte of proceeeloige—and, allure all, by the refusal tsr
rims of justice 111 the Courts below, end Ilter..fure he 1.4.11 that ! give to the illustrious Accused the hit of the witnesses
in no case of judicial prueettling shout() the rules by whieb naiad her.
those Courts wets Enid. dhe deviated from, miles* the mutt- ; The question was then post, and on a division the nom-
cular of she cane pretested gaud coil suffi• hers were—
rient
grounds fur a drpas lure hunt them. Bost though he t Contents
'boob, always entertain the highest respect for the °positing Nut content'.
of the learned aulhontica who presided in those Courts, as I
to the roles or practice, and the principles upon which those I Mejorityagabist granting time in prepare the )
rules were f ded, yet he hal slweys thought those *pi- I evid.a.ce after the opening of the cage fur:- 10$
nions, whatever might he their weight and influence on the she defence
- - - 011, ,!.•41111iffitIll to the House - found Me. Brougham

minds of their Lord•ltqw, to low by nu mean.' impelative or
loading on their Lordshys a• rides fee Ilw einedurt of their
own proceedings, in she 'etiolation of which hr had conceiv-
ed that House to be bound by no-authority but that of its own
decisions.. in the course of she proceeding' a which their
Lurolehips were now engaged, the Muse hill tbotiOst it fit
that as extension of the right of cruse-examination Iteyeind
the ordinary practice of other Coate ghoul', lie allowed to
the Counsel intrusted with the defence of Ibis ease, on the
ground of the incooernience to which they hail been sub-
jected, by site reftwal so fasted' them with a hat of the wit-
neeses in support of the charges alleged is the preamble of
the Bill ; and when their Lordships considered the very
sparing use which had been made by the Learned COMII/11
fir her Majesty of that right so extended, he thought
they could out refuse the additional indulgence now
sought fur by them. This indulgence, he conceived,
might be prevented from being drawn into' a prece.
deist, by recording on the Journals that it had been
granted in cuaideration of the special eirconnetatioes
of the present case. Amongst Ikon tinted circum-
stances might be enumerat. 41 the refusal to >grant the
accused a list of the wittserwas its support of the charge;
not that he mealied to complain of that refusal, be.
cause hr had always doubted in his own mend the expe-
diency of such n profuse.. Among the malty foe elide Attu-
meats which tiny had lipoid from the Noble Carl againet
the concession of this farther indulgence so the Cuunsel fur
the Qeseen, particular sties had been bud upon the great
advantages secured to her Majesty by the adup of the
wont music of proceeding, in preference to that of an int.
peachineut ; but if thy House lead tandertake te by this tee.
thud to secure to her Majesty adeautages superior to those
which she would have possessed in a case of having been
piuceetleel again.' by impeachment, he saw therein no rea-
son for refueling het the further advantage which she might
d. r.ve from the allowance now prayed by her Comeeel ;
which, for she sake of that preetutueuee of chai atter which,
as n Couss ofJuslicature, that House had always hitherto
maintalued, and which notion( colloid lee kilter calculated to
preserve, be dui think they eboold grant.
Lord Bedevil:dr enter. 41 into a defliee of the whole line of
proceedings which had Writ fulluweif is this case. He had
flows the beginning fret thoroughly persuaded that it
was impossible that the toads of the people of ibis
country, and of all Europe, ‘13011141 1.1111111 iu the condi-
thou which they stood, and to which they had beet
brought by the rumours which had prevailed, and
which had overrun the whole of this quarter of the
globe, respecting the alleged conduct of the Princess of
Wales, during her residence on the Coutilwitt. Aod of all
the modes of proceeding which could have been adopted
fur arriving at a trim and just judgment in the case, he
thought this, which had been decided on, appeared to biro
to be she only uue fitted to its peculiar eirrunissatices.
Much had heel& said against is, sad those who decried it pro-
ceeded generally un tier supposition that their Lordships
were pursuing a coarse that was entirely new, and that
therefore their proceedings were nut conformable to any
established rule; but this he maintained to he tin further
truer thou as it applied tit tlw forms of the proceeding which
that !bat- certainly had the power In regulate ma to vary
according to what, su thew judgment, the circuimitatices of
the case might requite; and in the exercise of their die-
cretin's on that head, in this particular case, they
hell decided upon forme of proceeding that were perhaps
new, as tier case was unprecreleeted. But although the pro.
deeding was new, yet their Lordships, as a Court of
were bound to give • judgment &treading to law. llucle
bad bees+ said of the refusal to grant a list of the wit...rests
in support of the ; he had thought the applieetwel fur
it woo one which it was met 'missal/ to grant. Without
refeerint to the effect which any other deetaion than that
to wheel' their lattships had come on that point might
leave had 'spots future proceedings, whet, he retreated
their Lordships to couebb is, would have beta its effect
in this particular ca-e, That was sufficiently well known
from a hst had alresily appeared in the proceedings at
their Lerdslospe' bar, of witnesses having been d: terred
from coming :ow that Court tee gate their (violence.
In consilitience of the iucouteuienve to which the refusel
to furnish that list had buss supposed to subject the accessed,
and to remove in some degree the difficulty ist which it
apppeared likely to involve the defence, an arrangement had
been on all hauls undevrtanl to be tacitly agreed on, where-
by lime was to be allowed, after the case it support oldie
Bell was closed, to preps'e fur the defuses, and procure the
attendance of the nrressaey wiluessea. Hirt if, iu compliance
with the proposal now mode to Owns on the putt' of the
fence, Counsel 51tosild be allowed to inure upon the state-
ment of Ins case How, mid afterwards to hare lime for the
bringing forward of evidence in rapport of his cage,
-this would be in contravention of the artatigenscot which
had before been underetood. And of what nature was that
statement to he, which the Learned Counsel was so amnions
row to make, nlibuusli be was nut prepared with evidence
la substantiate it ? Could their Lordships doubt what would
he the tendency of the opening It bad already been held
nut if, matey pails of the pieeerdings. If Ore defence con.
elated only of evidence, for so it isms( If it be a defence at
alt,-aild out a mere unsupported sad imaginary statenreat,
got Is, to pled some other potpies thee the direct object in
the case—if it ware bottomed out the evidence by which it
was tube sob. lanintierl—he (wild not ileneeive how it could
lat'llenwthlr Pit Her Learned Coareml to enter apron the stale
"strut a his raiv fluidise was is, possessiou of the evidence':
used ii-he were prepared to begin hie case, he must be equally
prepareatle go on—end, then fore, he did not see bow their
Lordships could pineuhly accede to she requisitisee of delay
for-the eroolnetion of evidence, after the case for the defence
should have been stated.
The Earl of Darnley said, that on a comparison of the
ifilvityloldell end divide/Images, which had been pointed on'
we the reliable revolts of the comer prayed for by she
Llamenell Connect, be Willi lactieril strongly to concesle the in.
it alpine whirls was sought. If be rightly westernmost the Ties-
glint as it bad been nileposed by Ilse Noble and Learned lord
Vietbe Woolwich, it Otto, that the-Counsel for her Majesty
obuold be irwartietid that her mewl proceed through the whole
Of the defeoce, if he chose pew to enter anon it, but that
Vie 4 for Wpm:ilium and for prucesring the atteodsore of
tatiletiordisit would be given hire previous to theeepening of his
glue; if he required it. This wag a cunese le width Ice
*eosilir 'ngmr; for if, ea had been intimated by the
Learned Coutwel, he tholaght it more for the advantage
of •Iter Illpfesty tattier to proceed at all risk than the
lledf"lf abireht Arnim to do this, talk after
!Om through the abatement of his Ode, should,
' of Hattie Latilthipe mfesial M artear le hie
- - • ----at.s.unaglartition of Ma* wit.

wet. Ir. _
as she her, stating to their btroliihips, that tinder she peels-
has eirrumstarees in which he was placed, he felt himself,
in duty to lila Royal Chem, c paled so submit to their
Landships' consideration a further proposal. which was that
beshwsld he permitted tiamorrou, at whatever boar their
iurdships .sight Weevil() appoint, to address their Lord.
ships on the part of Elie defence., hisidiug himself, its his
address to preset'e the strict limits of comment on the evi-
dence which hail been laid before their Lordships, in sap.
port of the pa-amide of the Dill, and the cornmeal which
had been made there.. by the other ride; and in nu way
whatever to enter noon. or to make any, the smallest allu-
sion whatever, to any part of the east which he should here-
after have so state fur she defence, or of the evidence lu he
produced in support of his statement.
The Lord Chancellor felt himself boom! to state In their
Lord-hip., that the proposition now made to them by the
Counsel fur her Msjestr, was one to which, iis his juilg-
meld, it was impossible for their Lordship., in justice to
those witaes.es who had already given their evsdeoce, to se-
cede. The value of any comment upon evidence waa to he
estimated out finin the comment Raiff, but by the state-
ment of the race in defence, and by the evidence its support
of that slatesment.
The House then divided.
For Lord Eiskine's Most--

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:113jority.
Ciinnsel wire then called Ili, and informed that Lord
Erskine's Molise had been iirstiierd.
Mr. Rcitistrhani—" This is a question, my Lords, of the
greatest importance to het fttliesty; and 1 therefore hope
sod trust that visor Lordships Will allow ber Majesty's Conu-
sal tame lo consider what course of proceeding they wilt
arinps,"
l'he Lord

What time wilisht the Learned
Colooost tltii for NM par pose —at what time to-morrow '"
ight..Brometramow" Al whatever time it is coaresitot to

your Lord.ldp. `
Loud cries of '• Ten o'clock !" which being agreed to,
the House adjourned at a quarter to tour to ten o'clock to-
morrow.

NON-CONTRN7
AGAINST 11I[ RfPOLVITION PROPOSED IT LORD

LIVFKPOOL•

DUCTS.
Gloom-Ater
Somerset
Grafton
St Alban's
&Mord
Devonabite
Hamilton
Arg)ll
11.eionter.

S.atiltatpe
()%furti •
Farad Sam
Darlingtua
Stair
Groonevotr
Ramify
Rosalyn
Grey
Cali don
Darnley
Beshorough
Itte:intun
turtrstve
Minto
Ruse!berry.

Bowl
Tut r austos
Clifdris
Duty lie.

LORDS.
Say ...and-SO(
Dc Cliffind
Daigle
Kenyon
King

111ARQUI/171.
Latisduirn
Durnsbire.

Dundee
Eri lour
Belhaven
Ha• ke
Gnydie
A tenuity
Foley
Yarieoruienh
Auckland.

EARLS.
Derby.
Suffolk
Albemarle
Thule'
Esse%
J. rimy
Cowper

VISCOI*NTI.
BuWilgbfoke
GAP
Ai
Dimecom

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chaave to h• at present in t.onslnii, of (lapse (.0
whose oitentlasice. Ile might calculate
or two. tie will iu short not be permitted. to sepa-
rate tite itatifturiat from tine eaidearees hot Itewrtl
he all/bard the power of pristporrinrg the deletKe
altogether, to .nrh lime as he might th'urlt ur et.
vary for rssenthliug hij witoe•sro. We hunmiti ex-
tre, ely. for the ititerrato of justice, that the linage
of Lords should have frit themselves so trlr•rty
Immo' by, what they conceive to he the tr....ern., is
cases Or ord•ottry UCCOrteIICV, as to be r nimble ta

grunt the itniulgruce now strayed by Itrr 11.t.twytir4
Cutstw. I. Their I..or4ottiits, tr. dour►, are pliprod.

in a situ:viols of mune difficulty and rintearriloseitt,
tout ditty ought nut to furget that the conditions

of Ilse QUERN at the seine time is trot esesmit
from hardship and clan4er, and that while they
are mideirouitrig to pursue an imaginary principlr
of core-is'enty in their proeeedings, from which by
the way they have already egregiously deviated,
they are exposing the ll!motions Defendant, to
doubt unwillingly 181)011 00'4 1/31101, lo an evil the
most severe that could !refitl her short of actual
conviction. To her MAJCSTY therefore it inittr,r
little whether the Ilorrae of Lords act, as we
doubt not they do, it. every ',Mance, most liorreWy
1 and conscientiously, if at the very moment that
they ure priding themselves in their wisdom arcl
integrity, she is made to softer such calsmities a.
it might be supposed that nothing but injustice o:
folly could iuflict. The Loots CHANCELLOR Rod
the other Noble Lords who opposed the proposition,
admitted that even their Lordship.., her MaJialry's
sworn judges, who are bound by every sensor of duty
undid* honour to keep their judgments free from every
impression nod the whole case be fully and fairly
laid before them, must or necessity within the cotter?
of two months, should the proceeding be so lors,
suspended, have their minds influenced in some
degree by the ci:se for the prosecution, sod that
the public not guarding' their minds with the same
precautions, must feel this influence more sensibly.
Such brio's the opinions of the Noble Lords, woo
which we shall not now quarrel, they must neces-
sarily admit that the QUEEN is thereby exposed to
a greet hardship from which the Douse might re-
lieve her. But these Noble Lords advise the
House itok so to relieve her MaJrrev, because, in
the first place, the mode of proceeding so:Neste:l
by the Counsel for her MAJESTY is not worrsiiteh
by any precedent (we should like to know where

the precedent was found for all that has hitherto
been done); secondly, because it is possible that
'the Counorl might make a statement which thry
could not afterwards support ; and thirdly, because
the statement of the Counsel must of isece►situ
make an impression in favour of the QUEEN.
The high character and professional reputation
of the Counsel for the QUEEN, with a sense of
what is due to their Illustrious Client'a safety.
would prevent them from making a statement
which they did not conceive themselves fully
able to substantiate, and if it were necessary.
on adjournicr4 the proceedings, that a strong im-
pression of some kind should be left upon the mind
of the House and the public, this advantage might
to be conceded rather to the Defendant than to the
Prosecutors.

II must never be forgotten that the necessity of
this adjournment, or the hardship which the QuFFN
must sutler if she be compelled prematurely to
enter upon her defence, arises altogether limn the
mode of proceeding adopted by the House itself.
when their Lordships were unhappily dissuaded
from granting a list of the witnesses to her MA-
JESTY. If the Lords, therefore, now find themselves
embarrassed, they must attribute the difficulty to
themselves only, and they ought, for the same eon-
sidetation, to extend every indulgence mottle Quite%
con,isteut with the eternal principles of asters!
justice.
Parte Papers of Tuesday last have arrived. As article of
intelligence from Madrid of the 24th of last arstath, repre-
sents Madrid as in • stilt a extreme stares, is conse-
quence of the refusal of the army of Andalusia to obey
Ihe Ordinance of the King for redueiog it to the peace ests-
bli.ltmeat. The letters addressed upon this subject by the
soldiers to the Kora and the Costes have occupied the
ridrd attention of the Government. lilt Cartes have held
several secret 'Mises to deliberate open the matter,
some of which are represented as having been extremely
tumultuous. The Meister of War, ILAs-Ailaairt.o,
has once again teadered his rnignatioa to the Kent,
expreesly on arcowat of 'this proceeding ow the pail of the
troop., and hemmer be conceives that he is lrecar4rd hs
most strenuous advocates of the late Revelation Si 31 MP"'
dissent iu the way of as *nimble adjsistoectit u t aft
dilTieulties. It is known that the army of Andelarsia
had been induced in the first inetaace to declare for the Cue-
stitution of the Cortes, is a great measure by the prussic.,
of rewards, territorial and preamilft, mod that as yet thin,
promises have not been realised. 4t.is to this circomdsro
that the soldiers *Wide whs. Ain accuse the Cortes e'
iogrstilude, and it is betimed that they will stet obey tb:
orders of the Goveramejat foe Otte seduction ore soporifics.
until their denim* shall hap, becO alleged. the existence
of tie angry:6lPM Is malipimstky alarming, and rules'
allayed in goad 61E4 maritegoadoetive of the most poor

cisme
It Weis=erseit Nureesherg Paper that the Emperor of
Reseals imeesll,ettlet'hewlept.imassed wow weeks at Pest end
Vieraa, to visit att tbeetmets isktae tooth a Gereasoy, and
Ikea to proceed to Loris. Ibis iweelltsware menu co"'
broishou.
The aceuusto from Sicily sad fium Naples rniptcliog the

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be wetet flit ihni6 ad AA, bwayhtot wilt thee. when S. he night-hove ansillaia olutia"dattintrillta7 lion submitted to theft% yesterday. sufficiently
pleased I my, that if die Hese* adopted the rsebtedest• sheltie weepreyeeted t(1-the di . Mee late weskit thohde.
he
thee retailed Is it they weeld situ of that Ma,. New 'Wks had plonged himfroesperseksit his ea* at east se mark. the cootie that will ulimt pr.bitily
hi, „dona.44.E of shat espihatheat wac, that 4 shield' slur dose, he (Lord Datiolry) theeitht Ow, ressill eel then adopivil this day, should Mr. Battu ott AM lit Illt-
be considered at a pled"' that their Lordships would gnat • deity him lime. The Noble Earl, it his arieentesto en she *01.11,4 to trust the defence of his I limit riots 4 ('brut
tw, if the Cosset fur her Msit-sty should lett It to be . threatened iisrearilitriares Of ouch a mode of protracting
essential 14, desire it. The case for she picusecistio• sow , she. proaiediwpoieenwal I. ie..* furautamt. thee ultiummeir. .7••••. the. toi4esimiy- 4 simtfr row wittimsetok nu. umag
kart.. ein..A_ no, airia. t... the &gime. wits cootie, said. this ' which their Lordi•hip had made to she Coensel for the ei,a,,,.e to he at ~,ei„,,,, in 1..,,.„.1..,_ n t 1..... .
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