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TUE NATIONAL REGISTER

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The several clattscs were then a. rood to, and the report having e
been made, the bid wa. ordered to be read the third tine to-
morrow. The House Adjok
THURSDAY, .7.IMICTI 14.
Lord KING cave notice that lie should call the attention of
the Um- e, on this day sennight to the expences of fu. Civil
List, with a view of proisesing a reduction, not in the personal
expenees of the Sovereign. hut other branches of the public set-
sive. Ihe noble Lord accordingly moved the Denise: be Snni•
tinned fee this day sennight. They were accordingly sum-
moned.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE. presented a petition from
Messrs. Fcmdrinier and Co., praying permission tee bring in a
Bill to extend his patent right tier making paper by machieeery.
The petition was laid on the table.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the third reading of the
Five per Centum Aimed, Bill.
The Earl of ROr.,EllEll BY expressed his mend aFsont to the
Bill. Ile considered it a measure completely within the spirit
and meaning of the 2f:th of George 111.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in order to record his dis-
approbation of that part tel the Bill which calls upon the holders
of Five per Cent. Stock to give in their dissent Mole the tutu
March, oared an amendment to insert after the word of,"
the word April." It was not his intention to divide the lIOIIBe
upon the question, but merely to mollusc. the ismendment, for
the purpose of expressing his dissent to part of the bill. ..
Theamendment was then put, and negatived without a divi-
sion.
Lord CALTIIOIIPF, :Melded to the present unfortunate state
of Irainel, and moved chit an humble address be presented,
praying his Majesty would be graciously pleased to order that
there be Lod betbre that I louse a retorts of all contntitments to
gad 4, in counties of Inland iv wl icb the Insurrection Act hail
been put in exucution, within the last six months. and of a!I
convictions which had taken place under the Special Commis-
sions of Assize, within the said disturbed Counties.—The motion
as agreed to, and the House adjourned.
11111).‘V, MARCH 15.
The Royal Assent was given by Commission to the Five per
Cent". Bill, and the Commissions of A-size Bill. 'flee Com-
missioners were. thee Lord Chancellor, Viscount Melville, and
the Earl of Shufteshury.
l int ERSKINE presented three petitions from the owners
and occupiers of land in Suffolk and Oxfordshire. complaining
of agricultural distrmF, and praying relief. The Petitions were
read and laid on the tab:e.
ILCIIESTER GAOL.

Lord nAnNr.mr called the attention of his Majesty's Go-
vernment to a subject which he considered of great importance.
He alluded to abuses in Ilehester Gael. Every individual must
acknowledge that the country was much obliged to Mr Hunt
for having brought those abuses before Varliament,f,and he trusted
the House would consider it their duly to investigate the matter.
He (lid net suppose government had authorised the oppression
exercised, but it was most extraordinary that care had nut been
taken to prevent the existence of all unnecessary hardships.
History had always biltWTI, that wile. c governments oppressed
an individual, he became more formidable. The noble Earl
concluded by moving for copies of the Report of the Commis•
sinners appointed to enquire into the state of Ilehester put.—
Orders d.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE wished, before the house
proceeded to the important business of the day, to tusk a noble
Earl whether any measure was likely to he adopted with respect
to the gercal regulation of pole: i The subject some time ago
occupied the attention of that House, and it was understood to
he the intention of a noble Viscstunt (Sidnunttli) to introduce a
bill. Ile wished therefere to know whether such a bill was
likely to lie Ineught in ?
The Earl of LIVE twnm, s!,i4 be was not able to give any
decisive answer. 'Fite subject had occupied the serious attention
of his Bight lion. Friend (Lord Sidmuuthu but he was nut able
to say whether any spec.tic remedy had been adopted.
Lord HOLLAND said, jocosely, that the attention of Co.
vernment was always occupied with almost every subject which
came bethre Parliament ; yet Ws Alujesty's Ministers breuglit
forth nothing.

TITHES IN IRELAND.
The Duke of DEVONSHIRE. rose to present a petition
from the Mayor, Aldermen. and Common Council of the City
of Watt:lard, complaining of the Tithe in Ireland, and
praying it might be made subject to Parliamentary inquiry.—
The node Duke observed. Oa Parliament, taking into cons:-
deration the distressed state of Ireland, would be unavoidably
led to the resent system of Tithes. which ought unquestionahly
to be the subject of inquiry. The petitioners said they possessed
the Tithes of parishes, and that they were willing to concur
in any sacrifice by way of commutation, or any n.oilus which
might lead to public tranqoPity. The noble Duke had chear-
fully taken upon himself the duty of presenting this petition,
because he was glad of the opporttinity of expressing publicly
bow sincerely and deeply lie felt, as a Peer el. Parliament, earl
cs an Irish proprietor, every tldng which related to the wells:km
of the people of Ireland. Ile was induced to attribute the very
lengthened complaints and tlisortler in Leland to something
wrong in the syaretn of Government in that country, and if that
was the case the House would feel how necessary it was to enter,
without del ty, into the inquiry demanded by the petitioners.—
' The noble Duke was the it% ner of .20 parishes in Ireland, and
he msurctl their Lordships that he was ready to make a large is-,
alike to insure peace end bai.31.1.6011. Ile felt it as a lay ha-
mpriator that lie was bowed to consider the peace and happiness
ofindividuals. and in the saclike lie might make with respect
to tit-es, lie •;ia not tlt.t he jitter-6ml with the rights of the
clergy. He was satisfied that any 111C4bUrll allowing u cominu
tation of tithes in Ireland could not hitt:ltem with the question
of tithes irt KnglutitL The petition he pre/rented spoke the
language of all theLtyal and intelligent people of Irelutal.
The petition was then read.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, lie never recollected hearing
an important subject delivered in that I louse in a more able and
manly manner. The noble Duke was entitled to more than the
common consideration of Parliament. The question of tithes
tieett:ied the serious attention of his aNesty'a government. and
that of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. The noble Marl ad-
mitted that the question ought to be minsideted by Parliament
independent of the disturbances in Ireland, and also that it could
not interfere with any question arising out of tithes in England.
The Petition was laid on the tahle.—Xljourtual.

HOUSF. OF CONIAIONi•
MONDAY, MAIICII 11,
The Speaker came to the liton.e at hall pa" 3 o clock.
Mr. Quartile, the yeoman ti,iter, then summoned the
house to attend in the himAe of poet a, In beer the roust
as•eiti given, by commiseion, to sundry bilk. (Sec Lords.)
Mr. O. Louth, Mi. Plunkett, and Mr. K. Douglas, took
the oath,. and their at ate.
The Dublin Foundling Hospital hill was read a lust
time.
St veral petition, were presented against the I:dining'lit
Police bill, and refs.' tell to the committee.
Petitions complaining of alp icultural 6stress were pre-
sented from the tloldeillebS Aglieultutal Society, and the
county of Denbigh.
Mr. CUItIVEN rave notice, that on Ft iday he should
Move for a co iiiiii itlee of the whole lion .e on the sobject
of the duties on 1.41101 C, u.ap, bolter, and Hwse, iu miler
that 4 allf. 1111,1)0Itilgi of duly Wigia 611; taken44l
fluor
CALL 41 tit ie.

Mr. COKE presented n petition from Walton agninet
the Norfolk New Gaol hitt.
Itlr. G. BENNET 1, present..d a petition front certain
debtors enotined in Ilehester gaol. eonsplaiiiiint of Ow
stem of rieonr to Which till`v were %objected by the tie.v
roles and regniation..--itead, and ordered to tie printed.
Mr. 6. lIENNry I' then presented a petition from the
Rev. 'Air. it. of St. Mieliael, Soniersetsline, in fa-
vour of Charles 11111, a eroen debtor, who had been int-
° propel ly rnuliaed in Ileitester gaol for sixteen years, out

account of solo,
FIVE I'ER (Ti.EN RILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
the third reading of the Navy Five per Cents. bill.
Ms. TIERNEY said, those vs ho were interested in this
matter complained that they had not the notice to which
they were emitted. The Three per Cents. as well as the
Four per Cents., were to be paid off as tireserilledl by the
acts ou the subject ; anti they showed the Five per Cent.
holders what semi meant by " redeeming and paying off ''
—lie melted the 25•1 t Geo. 11. and he urged that the pro-
Vi•. 11.114 of the law were not complied with. It provided
that the Five per Cent. hollers should not he subjected
to lie paid off till 2) millions of the 'flues per Cents.
were paid off. He did not wish to throw any ilitlictiltice
in the way of eovernment, but he sl 1.1 like to have the
opinion of the learned gentlemen oil the sobjtee.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL. said. that the Three per
Cent. holders had accepted of terms of payment held out
to them ; and as they were satisfied, he slid net 61. c how
the Five per Cent. holders could complain. 'the Three
per Cent. holders had bees' satisfied.
Mr. TIERNEY said, his objection was not removed or
answered. The Five per Cent. holders had calculated en
it certain untied, that of 12 months; and the Proeeetlinge
of the 'finer per Cen•. proprietors cold,' not affect the
plain lengireee of the art. 'rite law hell given them is
••rtnin security in the way of notice, and uo c promise
or ecreement on the part of the Three per Cent holders
could affect the oilier parties.
Mr. lIUSKISSON maintained that the subject had been
accurately answered by his hon. and learned friend. The
subsequent artangentents, by the IGth clause, entitle no
reference to the led. Geo. tl. lie admitted that ky the
22d of the Eine, they were in suet' a situation that they
could not pay off ;enamels of the Three per Cents. without
12 mouths' notice. With regard In the other funds, the
parliament would not have so tied up the gover 1111 l ent as
to compel them to a hide by such regulation.
Mr. ELLICE said, that, to his plain understanding, the
law had provided that 25 millions of the debt should first
be paid off, by reducing the 'three per Cents. to that
amount; now, a reelection of the debt to that amount had
Slot been niade paid oil, therefore he again contended,
that the Five per Cent. holders were not fairly treated.
His fortner objections still existed; he still complaiued of
the terms of the bill.
Mr. WILLIAMS snid,that he knew a party who had
prolTered a dissent which hail been refused.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed,
that the patty had only lost the onnierical order, vi Melt
was not of much consequeisce, as all the dissents would be
paid off in one day.
Ti.e bill was then read a third time.
A new clause a as brought tip, making additional pro-
visions on the subject of rive per Cents. standing in the
names of titedees.—Agreed to.
At r. lit 2 ME rose to propose a clause, to which he
thought theme would lie no objection. If there were not
a provision to guard the contitry against such additional
expence, the il ink would charge she customary 3001. per
million fur 7enet,beff. increase to the capital of the debt,
for their charge ut manaecinent of the transfer. He then
read the clause, provitlidig that there sheet.' he no adrli-
t • I charge ott the part of the Benk for the nianagcuuvit
of the debt nn account of this bill.
Mr. SI ANN I NG said, there never was any intention to
charge for the transfer; but the !Link was entitled to
charge for the additional amount made to the debt. 'Fe
agree to this clause would be to violate the act of Isol.
Tlie 'lntik now undertook to make geed all forgeries tin
the fields; if that act were violated, the liability would
be removed.
Mr. P. GRF.NFELL said, if this charge were allowed,
there tenets" be an additional charge for managing the
debt, of between 2 and 3,t0 'I. a year. 111119 they weep,
lose (lie saviors made by reducing two of the Lords of the
Admiralty. denied that there won'd he any charge
and trouble worth naming by making the transfers.
Lord LONDONDERRY said, there was neither prin-
ciple nor motive in the clause, for the klbv already settled
what the Bank was to receive. Was there any motive for
taking this transartion out Of the operetiou of the law ?
The stunt would not be above 2,0101.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, that on a former night the
noble mantels admitted that they ought to attend to the
smallest savings.
Lord LON DONDFITRY explained. He had merely
submitted that the law already settled the question; it
was one of good faith.
The clause was negatived without a division. The bill
was tilt II pasted.
Sir F. BURDETT gave notice. that on Wednesday
se'lloight he should move for au address to the crown to
remit the reumintler of Mr. limit's sentence. (Hear.)
SUPERANNUATION ACT.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proceeded
to advert to such progress as had been made to eat ry into
effect his Nlajesty's message to promote by all possible
means au economical expenditure of the crown,especially
as far as concerned those servants of the crown who had
become superannuated. Till 1810 they were provaled
for by vai ions means, by sinecures, &c. which wire in-
conveniened s ; but at that period there was passed a hilt
was now called the Superannuation Act. Its operation,
however, had been defective, and it had entailed consi-
derable expence on the goveinment. However, the
house would WWI have the °ppm ninny cf judging what
really had been done, by reins us of the state of the offices,
the salaries, Ike. The revenue depertments, 17,347 per-
suns, cost I ,fiel,oool. ; there were 1,732 persons superan-
nuated; their income was hi 1,r921. The Average
snperatimintion salary was 81)1. lie next noticed the
government departments, the Treaeury, Mint, &c. The
ays rage was much the RAMC. The salaries were e 05,0001.
for eat persons; 2:1,1V01. for 14 stnieratinuated permit's.
The tote, of salaries therefore was 1,8021,0001., for super-
annuation/4177,0001.-Ihr latter for 29 Yeats service on
an average. The act of es lie haul said, was de-
fectid ; pursuits between aittl2o years' service received{
et tutu tate of allowance ; those above twenty yeare ars
advanced tate, but betwcea 21) and 45 yeata' ACrtiCa

there was no &Wert:nee. Ile meant to give the Treasury
Lower to grant increased temuneration to such twirions,
;requiring the Emil, to constantly lay before parliament
siectionts of such grants. Ile also proposed that for the
superannuation fund there should be six per cent. charge-
able on all incomes above loot., and 2,3 per cent. on in-
comes between 111. and 10,1. Stich per tentage would
meet half the expence of the superannuation,. 'Poole
offices that were to be reduced, the holders should retain
their ptesent salaties, lint they should pay to the fund at
the rate of 10 per cent. The Chancellor of the Exchequer
added, that the salaries of the keeper of the privy pulse,
the lord chamberlain, the lord bit' %t aid, the II aster of the
and the toaster of the lior,e amounted in all to
:WO 0,101.. from which his Maji sty had in timed a &doe-
tiou 01 1,/ per ectit. to be matte, ss Melt would be is saving
from the civil list of 30,0001. per annum,—l-lie eight lino.
pill. roil. .•Jed with mistime resolutions embody-nig the
pe inciple of the amended scheme of regulating superan-
nuation.
Mr. HUME dislitoroved of the plan. The reduction of
the Itir;:er salaries is... I. no menus what tile coutstry was
',titled to expect; mid the tax upon the smaller ones was
art they could not fairly hear. There must lie extended
',nowt ants before relict would be °blunted by the
uouutry.
The ttarquis of LON1)0N DERRY defended what had
twee dot's ma this mittject by the (ion:raiment. 'facie kid
the 11)1161 eiticuiry tied anxiety to meet the
lull, 01 the Addles, of shut House.
NI 1, lIliN N EFT rousidrred the deduction from the sus
boot oate clef la us tim the heats of mikes did
bra give up eteaairli.
sir W. 1)E CRESPIGN Y was highly gratified by the
communication of his ft Tijesty's intention of giving up a
pot hut' tite civil list, mid was must anxious to CXIIIVF, his
:;raiiiiille for this gractotei cominuaicatimi. The eth2et of
coming Ii ton melt a quarter would be must power -
fatly effective.
Mr. WARE wished to know if the reduction in the Civil
List of lrelitild was to bear a proportion wilt' that of Liez-
hind, and if a per tentage was to Ue to :et' tram persioth uu
foreign missions.
Enid LON DONI/EKRY mswered in the affirmative.—
Tome was one pinta to %Melt he nos desirou, of whetting.
l'he idea which prevailed in the minds of most persons was,
that tke as hole of what was called thio civil list revenue a rut
to the support id his 111,6evty ; but, in fact, there was only
209,0001. applied to his Nhijeity's state, upon this suns the
/Sittig had given up considerably inore than ten per cent.
Mr. C. IV YNN defended the system of suptionnualito,.
old servants of the public. when the time cause that they
were no homer fit fur duty.
Sir J. YORK wished to know if the allowance to the
royal family no, to be subject to the 10 per cent discount?
Lord LON DONI)ERRY answered in the irgative.
Mi. P. MOORE wished fur more time, to consider before
ha, adopted or rejected thus resolution, and for that purpose
he should propose that the Chairman do repots progress, and
ask lease to sit again.
Mr. was in favonr of the resolution.

Str M. IttDLI•:Y thought the high and ettiritinl officers of
state, who were cure of a prieltin on retiring, should give
up at least 20 per relit. of their valuriev.
Mr. CACCRAFT us us agatobt any thin; heing taken from
the lower valariev. Ile could lint nvo.d exprevving the un-
mixed butislariion he felt at the eoounontcalion from the
thrum.. Ile thought 30,01,01. wov as much us 111 S Majesty
could give up, and w heti it antevplain-il to the coum ry iii
st hat inauner and from what fund 11114 Majesty had given up
this porn, he was convinced the people ruuld think t,vo tutu.
After a few words Ilion Mr. W. limbic. Mr. Home, and
/b. Moore. the latter lam member withdrt•w his amend.
rutin', mind thti revolution of the Chuocellor of the Exchequer
14'1/i ogreed to without a division, turd the report sus ordered
to he received to morrow. _

Oil toe order of the day for the second reading of the
Mutiny Rill,
Mr. IIUME said, he would In the committee no the hilt
propose a clause to explitio the power of the Crown to die-
miss otticere without a court nun tint.

The other °Met, were disimed of, and the Haase ad-
journed at halt-pust f le% en.
11,EADAv, MARC*
Mr. G. !SENNETT pi ei.ented a petition flour Halton,
?rurthaugtt hire, complain* of agt ienitin at distress.
Ala. J. SMITH presented a petition front the chamber
of commerce of Ediolitirgli against the Faliiiiturgli police
hill--a mea,ore, the lion ineuther said, which called nulls
the ntostsrtinnsattention of the liatPte. . _

Sir It. SRAM E. gave notice, that he alionld bring for-
ward his motion fur the repeal of the window tax iu lie-
laad on the 2 ttli of April.
Mr. LUSHINOfON hronglit In the malt ditty repeal
bill. Wail a lira tine, and ordered to he read olltewid
time to norrow.

Mr. CIiETWYNOF: moved for leave to bring in a bill
to consolidate the laws regarding vagrants. lies bill of
the last session, granted for one year, hail been successful
beyond Ibis exist elation; and he was iliereture at' toted
to proceed. There hail been 40 held on this subject,
some of which were now parthlly acted upon ; and tic
Viet efore thought their comolidation would be useful,
taking his bill of the last session as the groundwur k of the
present proceeding. The chject was to simplify what
was to be deemed vagrancy. .1 here were many contra-
dictory decisions OH this subject, especially us regarded
ballad singers, pi ize-ngliters, persons holding plaits at
church duo's, match-sellers, &c. One troject would be
to adjust It contradictory decision• ; another would be
to guard country more rfiictually aloinst tor frauds
of vagrants. Their frauds were carried to all commons
extent. It had been ',loved that there were forty blouses
Or the occupancy of vagrants in W hitecliapri
Ma thought such houses ought to be ;out under the con-
trout of the magistiacy, as public houses were; but lie
would nut fatigue thu house with details, lie concluded
with moving tor leave to lit ing in a bill to consolidate the
vagrant sm.—Motion agieed to.
Mr. CIIETW YN Oh. then moved for leave to biing in
bill to facilitate summary proceedings before the jus.ices
of the peace, especially as has as regarded forms of con.
vietion.

Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, the exertions of the hon.
luembt r merited all puasible auppurt and approbation.
Motion egrveil to.

Sir J. N tfW PORT rose to move a mill of the 'louse on
the -dills of Apia. The lion. member °llse, evil, toot it
was mefol inannnich as it would sliuw the people of lie-
liohl that the lulee.t ottes.tion would he Riven to their
hitdire lie trusted the ctfrct won hi he, lie It 11/111, to
iu-
C.e.ise the cuufidcucc of It tlauti iu the legislature.
Alutiuti agreed to.