The National Register.
London, England, 1823-03-10 00:00:00

II

• -
T la NATIONAL MUSTER

He wished. that, perinea to die prelim mods", he had had
the opportunity of making such preposition to the Hosts
Sir S. NEWPORT thoeibt those societies, sod all settee
societies, ought to be pat doettlethest delay.
Mt. DAWSON defended thoOMAge associatioas, *birth he
said had always been fouadltareMojy:forereest in dermal of
good order, the laws, and the eiseritetka,
Mt. M. FITZGERALD slivoifdintlMMilled the Omer So-
cieties as teediag to promote/einem awl Whims 'toenail the
people. He straggly tried Use weasel goverameat to adopt
the same ensegesie coarse es was adopted by LosiGormwellis
Mem he tookm himself the imsessmonts
Mr. PEEL declared him isff dile decided meaty of wets'
associations : in always km, hem so ; he had so declared
himself when 'Secretary for Iroloiii. if. Mild. 4t the seem
time, he was most needy
Omogim to,4l.ltospitedge the higlinterhs aid
great services which the mi Of 'heisted had Wormed.
aphid both foreign sad duos*. -*semis.. Rs heikred their
principles at peewit to he .16yalitidt abietitstiosal ; hut these
principles might horsiest divisional', and whatnot their sow
rim might be, he most disomotiommes secret associations. As
the law now mood is Miiihoad. M wasao offesee to belong to •
society in which VIM Himiaistered, his in Ire-
land it was oesessary ' 'rirtheititek *Ministered. He bad
nn objeetim to mkt, late lolfetattd the same as it is is
aser
Ba
After a few wools.F=Ketodap sod Mr. Casein,
Ms. Aferennahie's ma Misfired.
' The other orders wesii libpsoll of, sad the Room al-
joermal
TItLEDAT, KEEHN 6. •
ImsotvosT Deere —Mr. DENNISON premotefta polo
tios from Si. Mary's. Mermemiasy, sieiml the Lie~.
Debtors' Act. One pstilloier had 89 permit en Us hetet
who bad tabu' the fit of Melt aelm mol from whom he bad
sever recovered one ' The hen,. member thicken, it
was sot 'Actuary to Kate a Wronger feet is it email*" or the
laws respecting Insolvent Debtors.—Ordered to be petaled.
The Rouse went into a Committee on the Irish Assessed
Tares Repeal Bill.—Report to-motrow.
The Lime Esemption frola Toll ILN, being to stplain the
Gent cal Turnpike Act, was read a second time.—Ordered to
be committed to-morrow.
MESEMPT /ROM THE ICING.—Mr. PEEL presented a Mew
sage from his Majesty, (see lords,) which stated *Mt doubts
bad arises respecting the right to dispose of oopyhold, lease-
hold, sad real estates, se Mc Aceessioa to the Crows, and that
the same doubts were likely to affect his Majesty's successors ;
his Majesty therefore recommended the House to take the
subject into emsideration, and to adopt such measures as
alight be deemed Irelrfilitil.s
Ordered lti be takes into coosideratioti twmerrow in a Cow.

mittee. • .
Powee or THE CROWN.--00101001 DOSS preelblid a pa-
tidos from Col. Allen, late if the Me raglment, beretofe-e
stationed at Guernsey. It waif simAir proof of the moo-
strolls character that bad been eseamed by the Crown respett-
ing the disaissiee of officers. Col. Bailey hod soonaed him
of making false returns. Acv A mart-martial was called for
and granted; and Col. Allen was tried on. two charges for
making false returns, sad for trying a Mil it the drum-bead.
He was found guilty of the first charge, sad be was ordered
to be reprimanded. The Ling eonirmed the senteeoe, and
added to it that Col. Allen was to retire to half pay, or gait
the tinily altogether by selling hi. somasisaidm He trusted
that the House would listen to this cue.
Lord PALMERSTON said, the prerogatire of the Crowe
to appoint or dismiss Dicers was atugeestionelrle, and of keg
elege4 and it was essential that it skated iseinsiataieed. The
petitioner was loud guilty of the ebargea preferred against
Wait he forth* bed been neglettfill df orders ; lie bad tree
desired to abstain as math as possible from the infliction of
corporal panishment, bet itt spite of this there were (revived
courtcsartials. I. a few mooths fit individuals were tried, oe
whom were ;4,900 lashes. General Betty had mutes
peotedly weal into the soldiers' quarters, and he 'foetid two
man in the sick ward labouring under the severe erects of
menet corporal punishment. No returns however bad been
made on the subject. This led to so inquiry, cud it was foiled
that withip a sheet period 15 twee were hied and received
1,700 lashes. All these things Were ie spite of General Or-
ders, sad there was no grouted of the emergency of the case
r to justify the druns.bead itonete-martitl, the I egging, Ito.—
His Lordship the* read some of the records of those courts-
martial. ono for having two blank cartridges in the
bireanta his jacket instead of being in his eartridge•box, was
-eallielermi to lib Isabel—another 25 lashes for supportiej his
musket, instead of shouldering it—and another 100 lashes for
drunk . Another man (all of them tried by drain-Wad
oeurts-niartial)was sentenced for having levelled his musket ie
the air, in an wieldier like way, had 24 lashes. And this was
the individual who we. to be held op se having bees the victim
of military tyranny. More might have hies charged agaillat
Colonel Allem ; he was meaty ehwladTul of his saperiors and
his inferitersiaed it was sot found that be ought to be oontinued
in the communed of a regiment. He was permitted to sell his
commissions, all of which he bad received by .the pure grape
and favour of the Crows.
Mr. G. BENNET was glad to hear what had fallen from the
noble lord—the was glad to dud that the system of togging
was so diatinctly disavowed.
Col. DAVIS said be Only contended Chit Colonel All. had
been proceeded against in an Hiegel . He was Abe imi•
voc-te of principle, and not of the man ; and when the
Bill wag brought forward, be should propose a clause to per
tact otteeraagainst the exercise of such power ea 'the part id i
the Crown. Petition ordered to be printed.
Mr. GOULBURN rose, in porsearee of Ma promise last
Session, to bring forward the propositions of Government on
the sobjeet of tidies in Ireland. He should ask for leave to
bring in two separate measures. The first would be for the
oornmetation of tydres for a time to be limited. It could be
proposed that the Lord Lieutenant should Lave the power, on.
rep lion from a certain panther of tithe payers, to as-
semble what he would call Special Vestry Mt the District.—
Such Vestry should have the power of naming persoas to ne-
gooiate with the incumbent of the perish, or rather with a
person on behalf of such Incumbent, to adjest whet ahoeld be
the tithes for a time to be limited. If the Comenissioaers
should fail in settling the amount of the oomposition, it would
be competent for them to appoint an empire ; and shoed these
partiea fail, the Lord Lieutenant might appolbt a comesisaioithr
to settle the time. After various details of the measures, lie
ooneladed by moving for lege° to bring in two halo to regulate
the commutation of Wises, &c. in Ireland. ' •
Os bright' up the report of the !Catena! Debt Redeetion
Mr. CALCRAFT strongly opposed the ale , as yaks-
toted to pot an end to any further reduction of taxation. He
would propose that c further e‘esideratiou of this report be
postponed to the dOtb of April.
Oa this soda las House divided •


L.

r

-

IVRIOAY. ■ARCH T.

71

Roe int math of Mr. Wendt 1111—For reeeitiag the Re-
port 911.4114101.11/4
Tbo report eras then reoeived.
Tbe ether ord.-e were di:Toted eh and the noose ad-
/earned.

- _
The Hoose was sentmomed to attend in the House of Peers,
to leer the Royal Assent given by commission to Oath, bills.
(See Lords.)
Helms Taitt—Mn HUSICISIDON moaned a petition from
permits is Liverpool, prayag for the eqoalinition of the Hoes*
Deties—a petition. however. which be nodal net support.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did mot think
the listitiomers lied so strong a claim to relief as the retail
shopkeepers from the Whoa* Toe.
Mr. HABIB asked whether, in the proposed temiesioe of
Wisdew Tlll, it ear intended to make my redaction rigardieg
laser wierdows-i-whether. in fact, it would not be advisable to
repeal the duty respecting afar windows or borrowed lights t
they were the objects of weenie's serokerges.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that
be bed no intention of proposing stab special relief ; indeed, if
he were to attend to the ontsnoes where partial inconvenience
was suffered, the would be frittered dews in various
directions, till Mete world be little or liothieg to Melee.
Pontius ordered to be printed.
Lord Ft/LAWTON* palpated his notice of median re-
meeting the Satiable Adjestmeet of Contracts, founded on
Mr. Thonipsosie petition, to the Yid April.
Mr. 15ESta.• in a Coulidllette ems his Majesty's Message.
Moved for leave to brag is a bill to remove mains doubts re-
spooling the private property of the Ilettreiges la the exist-
ing law. there were amermalies, which Lu was desires•
le remove.--Leave given.
Sir G. CLERK gave sieges tbdt ridiftiday meat, he should
a • committee of apply, move fur the navy estimates,
lamed PALMERSTON meted that the Hoes* p into • ewe.
mittee of supply. • •• • .1
Mr. CREEVEY said, they were to be caned on to vote
away 6,000,0001 fee the army, im aa Wit a home as be bad
sees this *guinea He cameledod by tooting an amendment,
pledging the Horse to oat dews the several departments, 100.
as mach as possible.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE admitted the distress of the eoontry,
bet he questioned whether the army retold be reduced to what
it yea in 1192. The giving itp of 10 per mitt. net of the Civil
List by his Majesty, was a magnanimous proceeding f but a
similar reduction os the part of the great eaters of State would
not be sulkiest.
Lord PALMERSTON would mot prolong the discosidoe,
but be ooeld Dot avoid remarking that the items of the esti.
mates. if deemed objectionable, ought to be objected to in the
committee—that sineebres were prospectively abolished—that
Warier were prospectively redeeed, even those that had mot
been 'defaced.
Mr. HUMS supported the amendment. The estimates ought
not to be proposed in so this a house. Besides the 8,000,01/01.
for the army estimates, and 1.000,0001. for the extraordimaries,
there was half a million for the yeomanry, swine* for various
other objects ...tweeted with the army. He wished to see the
mune, in each • state as not to require so large an army • but
for min-rule, it wend mot be required. The people ought to
complain of sash estimates and espeeditere.
Amendment me‘atived without a division.
The House then went into • Committee.
Lord PALMERSTON said extended detail wield be Nene,
pessary. The estimates were idech the same as lost year. Is
the estimates there was a diminution of 18,0001.; for the in-
fantry there was an hareem of 24,0001. Staff reduction 1,0001.
sie the whole of the flat ease there was a reduction of 24,0001.
la the garrison Charges there was some slight increase ; but in
the fell pay of retired general opoers and pensions there was a
diminution. In the Window pertness there was am increase of
-SOW. Os the whole estimates there was a reduction of
10001 • end compared with the estimate of the Somme coa-
lmine', the was • reduction of 92111. He casoloded with
' Mewing the /rot grant, 09,00011 for had forces. •
Mr. HUMS theaght there might be erresiderable rednetioes.
.He should mot move say redaniens of men, al this pertineler
Olds tits Bet it might Dot appear es if we were not prepared
bt. that lime of policy which it was to be hoped err Mi•
wield persevere% enforcing. Me however particularly
Muipialeed of the member of cavalry ; they were at once the
most espeesive and soden species of force.
Sir Al MOPE defended the cavalry as • useful force,
Mrs DENMAN said. if peace were likely to be maintained.
the estimates would be much too large 1 but the question might
be different in 94 boors, for each arrival seemed to threaten
the It:miaalion or peace. The projects that had been evolved
by the seari-barbarows powers of the North were of the most
monstrous Mariner. They were too Mandated and marl ia
Brisk it possible that they should ever be aetrd upon ; but now
they bad heard them avowed in the Senate of France. He was
glad to hen the sentiments lately tittered at Harwich and I.i.
Teepee! (by Mr. Cussing Mn Huskisson); sod he was fur
Civil add Religious Liberty all over the World." If France
should attack Spain—it a French army crossed the Pt rennet.,
he hoped that such moment *mild behold us declaring war
againsi France. Our own safety would require such s course
of oroceeding. He wis not dismayed by the softy benches,
because he trusted those who were absent were aimed in a
just compliment to the representatives of the Spanish people.
First remation agreed to,
Lord PALMERSTON that. moved for 1,800,0001. for land
forces.
Mr. HUME wished regiments of 800 strong at least to he
kept op ; the imaintentince of o skeleton" regiments, in the
event of • war, was an unnecessary expeDee. The recruiting
department eat very extravagant. There were cations other
objections, which be would urge in a more particular meatier
on the bringing up of the Report of these estimates.
The grant, sod several other grunts, were r greed to.—Re-
putt on Monday.
The remain/1g orders sad busioess having been disposed uf,
the Hone adjeurued to Maeda,.

-
SPRING AND NEATB.—A itiveting of the parties and
their friends took place on M lay !ugh'. hot mutton;
was done.—Spring. in perlflll, was ready lit slake filly
sovereigns to tight in May, from two to fire hundred.
claiming a rightful forfeit of twenty-6e sovereigns. du .
to hum, and upon which much was aid.--Neate, when
first matched against Si • it. hroke his arm in wanting.'
and the bOl. deposit became a fOrleil as Spring; but the
Brian)lonian) brought it in a wrangle. and Spring was
lucky in himself to get 251. of the money. lit the se-
cond, and very recent match, Spring's barker (nob lied
1501 which was not immediately Unit 0, Inn it
has since been paid so Neate. n tin all itralal/filltg
situ the promise of Tom Belcher, that Si tt Rlir.riltl re.
ceive the 251. juitly due to tniu upon Ncate'li forieit.

-"011.11.17.r.