The National Register.
London, England, 1809-04-23 00:00:00

APRIL 25.-

Lord Liverpool, in replying, used malty .of theaegutueitsttl-
iready 'so -familiar to those who have heard the grounds upon.
which his Majesty's Ministers defend their measures with regard
to Spain. With respect to the intimation of blame to their
conduct in not waiting, On. result of the enthusiasm of the Spa- ,
nish people, excited by the aggressions of the enemy, he said
that, if thdt. enthusiasm had been suffered, even it' it was hot
artial, to experience the tardy support of England, his Ma-
jesty's
Ministers would indeed have deserved the reprobation of
every man in the country. The Noble lord having, in a most
eloquent and luminous speech, combated all the points of Lord
Grey" motion, and contrasted the documents ith his assertions,
made a powerful appeal to the Sense Of the House, and augured
from their decision a complete exculpation of his Majesty's Go-
vernment from any share °filial blame so directly imputed to
their conduct with -respect to Spanish affairs.
Lord Moira took an extended view of the campaign from its
origin, and contended that Ministers had acted without any
fixed plan, and witlniut cooeert with Spain. Vie). had neglect-
el the proper moment of sending troops to Spain, and when
they did snd them, had established no plan of operations with
the Spanish armies, Ministers ought to have calculated when it
was likely that additional French (loops would join thorn! in
the Ebru. The direct course certainly would have been
to have sent our troops there. The difficulty our troops
experienced in effecting their junction, might have been seen, and
ought to have been prevented. The Noble .Secretary had talked
much of the energy of the Spaniards, but that General who had
been on the spot, and who laboured under so many difficulties
from this very cause, had stated their disunion and general want
of attachment to the cause. Mr. Frere was not the person who
ought to have been sent- to Spain, considering w hat had taken
place before•with respect to that Gentleman in that ccaintry.
Lord Sidomoth could not kelp saying, that, in his mind, the
arguments 'of the Noble Earl who introduced this motion had
the decided preponderance. The Noble Lord then proceed-
ed to make some observations on the letters from Mr. Frere
to Sir.J. Moore, stating it as his opinion from these letters, that
whatever might be the zeal of Mr. Frere, he ought to be recalled
from the situation which he now theld, particularly 83 his in-
terefertoce was in'part to be ascribed the painful disasters which
our arony..had experienced.
The !louse then divided on Earl Orey's motiap. The numbers
were-r Non-contents present, 33. Proxie, 62. I Contents pre-
sent, 50. •Proxies, 42. I Majority
,for Ministers present, 33.
Proxies, 20.
Adjoitrotpdat Seven o'Clock in the Morning,

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The Mill fVt.r building a Bridge across the Thttices front 111?
Savoy to thlL'oftpo;ite shore, was read a second litnekria4 order=
ed to he' committed.
ABUSES OF tATRAIIMAGE.
Lord Fo t.ttv-roN r said, he ishould trouble the litatti very,
hviea befire he submitted his motion for their consideration.
I-4n ninny fahtises" no ways connected with railitaryinttronage,
abuses extending t 4 the church and all the departments of the
t.tate, had been disclose() in tile minutes of evidenceliid before
the House on the charges against his Royal Highness the Duke
of York, that he thought it impossible for the House not to gO
into some Ptirther. inquiry, and to endeavour to 'nice how much
farther those` abtises extended, as well with a view to punish
those who were the anchors of them, as to prevent a recurrence
of them in future. The abuses in the patronage of the East
India Comp :ply, which had been so recently Iliade public, af-
forded a strong ground for suspicion that there- existed many
other corrupt and criminal transactions of a t;milar nature,
which it was the duty of the Mouse to inquire itao, in order that
they might adopt proper measures to put a stop to them for the
future. He concluded with moving; That a Seleg Com-
mittee he appointed to inquire into corrupt practices and abuses
With regard Wieners of Service for raising men, and in the dis-
posal of C issions in the Army ; and also to -inquire into
corrupt practices and abuses with regard to the disposal of Of-
fixes in the State, nud to report the sane to the House, from
time to time, ai ibex may think proper."
The Crt.t!vcEt t.OR of the EXCACQUER said, he felt himself
obliged to, oppose the mot ioa,, because he conceived it unneces-
sary. lie was not. prepared to say that some abuses did not
exist, but its, his judipsents like.eXideleC pfa which thowitibpeS