The Sun.
London, England, 1855-06-09 00:00:00

LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 9, 1865.

After a very protracted and animated discus-
sion the debate on the several amendments to
Mr.DisnAma's motion has been brought to a very
strange and inconclusive termination. There has
been no trial of strength—no ,division. The first
part of tho amendment of Mr. LOWE was nega-
tived without a division, the second withdrawn,
that of Sir WILLIAM HEATHCOTE was likewise
withdrawn, and Sir FRANCIS BARING'S adopted,
if not unanimously, at least without any trial of
strength that would serve as a test of the opinions
of Right Honourable and Honourable Gentlemen
when appealing to their respective constituents.
Many have been condemned out of their own
mouths. They have delivered opinions which are
so utterly at variance with those of the
re)ple that we belie-ve they will never
again be suffered to misrepresent the views
of any body of independent electors. We can
scarcely believe that the educated gentlemen of
Oxford will be prepared to endorse the peculiar
views of Mr. GLADSTONE and his colleague Sir W.
HEATHCOTE.

The " Peace-at-any-Prica" party were, per-
haps, the most vociferous. We believe that
almost every one of the Oxford and Manchester
school spoke—that the division lists could scarcely
have furnished an additional name for public cen-
sure. Of the Peelites, Sir JAMES GRAD. Alr, and
Messrs. GLADSTONE, HERBERT, and CARDaY EL L
gave full expression to their new views, and
attempted to justify the apparent inconsistency of
opposing a matter which, while in office, they ad-
vocated with all their power—attempted, we
say, for the effort completely failed, and few
could listen with patience to the fine-drawn
distinction of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member
for Carlisle, who confessed that the seceding
Ministers " were parties to the arrangem;nt that
a proposition should be made to the Russian Go-
vernment with reference to the diminution of
the preponderance of Russia in the Black Sea,
which should require the limitation of the Rus-
sian naval force in the Black Sea, but that they
had not insisted upon that limitation as an ulti-
matum, or sine qua non!" This quibbling and
casuistical defence materially aggravated the ori-
ginal charge. In what other form was it put but
as an ultimatum ? The British Government sub-
mitted four points for the acceptance of Russia.
It refused to treat on any other terms. They were
distinctly put forward as the only basis on which
negotiations could even be commenced. With
gross duplicity and insincerity Russia accepted the
Points, one of which she had at the very moment
resolved to repudiate when the concealment of
her real intentions was no longer practicable.
Our own Government would be exposed to a
charge of equal insincerity if they had not insisted
as a sine qua non on every one of the Points so
decidedly and categorically put forward. The
nation has been sufficiently disgusted with what
baa already been brought to light respecting
" secret diplomacy." The feeling will be by
no means improved by the so-called explanations
of Sir JAMBS GRARA:A and his Peelite colleagues.
Of the Manchester School, Messrs. MILNER
GIBSON', COBDEN, and BRIG
BT occupied the time
of the House at considerable length, and Sergeant
SEEK nearly succeeded in obtaining the honours
of I" a count-out," during the most important
debate of the Session. ',We suspect, however, that
the Peelite and Manchester men would have had
a scanty following
if :a division had been in-
sisted on. A vast majority of the advanced
Liberals and thorough-going Fre© Traders would
rather have arrayed themselves with honest JORN
ll' CCIRBOOR, and demanded the destruction of
the
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all F and an ample pecuniary indemnity for
f
expenses of the War, as indispensable con-
-13 any peace that could b© accepted by the
nation. The truckling
presented course pursued, however,
the possibility of separating the wheat