The National Register.
London, England, 1819-12-06 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL RZGISTEIt.

• Sir It. WILSON most cot thistly agreed in the tirgyer of
the Petition, and in the sentinsents of the Hun. Member
who presented it he coneut led.
The Petition, we hie!' was very lung, was then read amidst
the attention of the Hollge.
Pe titi nn ordered to lie on the table:

ML, Alderman W(X)CI pleas nted a Petition from Mr.
Hunt. It set forth the Mancliestcr proceedings, the inn-
tines which led I' heti., the object of the meeting, Sc.
It also set forth the atfitlas its and esti lions made by the
petitioner in the King's Bench, and elsewhere, to institute
unpile yin the Law Gum ts. The petitioner also detailed
lieu ticulars tepid ding•ss hat lie railed a charge for a pre-
tended conspioacy. Besides complaining of the Alagis-
tra►'-s, &t. it also (nand fault particularly with the
ittisters. .

Ordered to be printed, but not without numerous but
unavailing cries sit No!
TheUlliC hatin; resolved itself into a Committee of
Supply,
The CHANCELLOI. of the EXCHEQUER Said,
any fusilier preface, he sl Id content himself' tOr
the pi esent with musing that a supply be granted to tale
Alajeste.
Ms. I'. GRENFEI.L observed, it had been footnoted
that there was a consides aide decrease in Ilse coussolida led
I ontl, to Ili. animus' or sight inillinss•, in the quill ter ending
Oct. Ili. He should be glad to learn whether there was
any truth in this statesisesit.
'the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied,
that the dimitnition resulted rattly from the stagnation of
trade, and partly from the recent consolidation of the Cus-
toms, 116 many had paid up for the preceding I;marter to
avoid soy increase of duty that 'Isis:Ill be inCarred by the
Cuismilidation of the Costume' Dunes, Their was a defi-
ciency iu the Excite of al t P .0,4001. a. compared with
the corresponding period of Ibla, but lIIPI pru.
since was the las ssest ever kissing,. But 1..0111 the !Oils of
October last to the slay nit vs Iticli !'atliaintist assembled'
the 23‘11 instant, there lied been en Ml:tease iu every
branch of the Revenue

Motion acrerif I..—Report to-morrow.
STATE OF THECOLINTRY--THE NEW RESTEIC-

TIV E :%1 FAS': It MS.

The Prince Regent's ,ipeeeli, as far as it regarded the
internal state of the country, keying been reed,
Lord CAS TLER EA G H said, that the Po ince Regent's
Speech unfolded to the House that great danger elided,
dial a spirit bad new fully manifested itself %%birds Mats
incompatible with the public tianquillity. and which was
clearly hostile to the Constitution. Such being the fact,
it would be to the ii.tetest ol• the deluded and infatuated
Ilieonselvele to adopt measures to rescue them as well as
the Consthetion tiom imminent darter. He would now
come mote immediately to the point before the House—
to detail these measures which his Majesty's :tliteisters
onnful deem it Helot to propose. The (list was to check
that alarming evil, the tientiltiooes uneelittos. The second
would be ergo-ding the teething to the use of arms, eXe.
I lie third %unlit sue of local opei..ei in, similar to what was
in effect in 181 g—namely, to give exit aorditeary possess to
scare h fur and seise arms, Ac. The fourth would be, to
secure the mote speedy min imising+ion of justice. pat lien-
tarty in the eases of misdemeanoi a. And the filth measure
regarded the Pie's, nut the general Press of die country,
but a measure for the purpose of more ►fectual!y con-
wiling and repoessing the treasonable, blasphemous, and
s. ditious Press. These were the O.ODSriteS which his Ma-
jesty's Ministers deemed necesuesay to save the-country
from a +anonym's,' re betties' on the our baud, and as alcrm-
ing an evil on the other, military determine', for a salgni•
miry rebellion wattld be calculated to lead tosiich a state
of things. 'The magistrates should be clothed with a
power of preventing sinuilioneons meetings, by varying
the time and place of meeting, for the purpose of eloimt
w hitch with the greater effect, s:x Jays' notice 'humid be
given of• the intention to assemble•. Meetings should lie
stripped of then pueseut garb. No man AllOlllll meet to
peti►ion DI sans, m..' early revelled tonasy symbols. Those
prohibitions were to be extended to All meetings. 'l•be
magistrates should have the power of resisting the inroads
of a mass of people. They stomild have the power of pro-
nouncing mee•tinngs illegal lions which stoangets upon pro•
clamation ferreted to withdraw, and those olio continued
after the proclamation abeuld be suhject to setions Inc
eisbnicioi. He should not propose making it felony of
death—(hear, hear)—hnt chargeable felony. He thought
it reasonable that a quarter of an hour should be given to
strangers to retire, and half en hour after that to the
sleeting to dispe►se. The Rill would extend to Societies
not registered, Institutions abbot rent to the lonstitistum.
With respect to the loathing system, the Rill would ope-
rate effectually in preventing the people (rum being
drilled. These should be s diderence as to the treatment
of the drillers and the drilled. Those who were 'miler
instruction should be liable to fine and imprisonment,
while those who drilled should be subject to transportation.
The Noble Lord the it spoke of the dangers arising from
abates of' the public press. His object was to apply a
salutary cootie/el, and for that pus pose be should merely
act open the established law of the land, and counteract
the hands committed by venders of small publications
upon the regular newspapers, by subjecting all publica-
tions of• a certain site to the stamp duties. In all this
their was not a tittle against the libel ly of the subject.
Oil the contrary, the measure would prove a protection to
the Itheity of the press, and there could be DO doubt Of
the necessity of mak hog it permanent Temporary expe-
dients were NH of• mischief. 'l•he dienffected watched the
time of their ending to burst out with a 'viewed spirit of
hostility to the Gores ... eitt. 'l•he Noble Lend epicluded
with ionising for leave to being in two for more
effectually preventing seditious meetings and assemblies;
and the other fur malls; regulations with respect to the
press.
Mr. TIERNEY said, filet be-was not prepared to enter
folly upon this subject, Rot having had any idea, when he
canoe down to the House, that many points upon which
the Noble Lurd had daarlt •11, would have been toothed
upon. The House /meld not with propriety ante. tan,
',injects of this kind till a ease Was made out oil which
Miry could act. All the•, load to go upon was the notoriety
of file proceedings tlu•ongh I he roiled' y, open the authos ity
of the Papeis tiefiord the House, w Web weir the only evi-
dence with reset-et to the tides and exteill, a mole gar-
bled and mutilatedacYuuut could not clod,- be rr t before
P.irlianuctit. It was admitted by Ministers the Intermit
trade of the country was good, arid that 'teething was
to be Apprl.llelldrd CDrepl 11001 the 1415Itell)
of Awc-
nira. 1111.3 was most extiamordinaiy. It would elopes'
as of u••c natures p ly changed, and we hail de•
tetutund to lulu the nation againet stn Ceastitattion, .

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in odddion to the .1 en Ihnusaud regular Troops, bodies of
Yeimi.day were forming, rind oil this was dour tit a tours
'lieu linoters said the country was iis u douriihmg cone:.
lion, The people were indeed deceived by theta Imprimis
pled leaders. if those unfortuisate wen, nicrined Radii at,;
would look to the me:aticholy tows to which their leaders
were reduced, how must they be struck at seeing them trout .1
hand oust fillll. Il atts said by the otlicr side of the Rocas
that the Whigs had been excnbled hour Government fifty
years It aas true, and the country felt it. lincontrot
and disalleetino were the cousequrners, and new Inas were
rt.alfril In us a proof of ht.. a i.e system of those a 1 o op-
posed the lie %holly disapproved of the piuhibio
lino resper tide arms. lie e Oiled to know a heiker e
Lis.,l simian was not to have semi for tun ,JM n defence. Tia
existing iota alreody provided axon's* MPH going in armed
bottles, nod viere qufficivnt seem ity against 111!(' bier.
The droete Navin, coothated to a late kw, the Moline
was ultimately agreed to. and the Illouse atijoui ned.

Tutesn•,r, nor. SO.
Mr. F. 4.%LNIER prevented n ',Thelon from Readirg,
prayinT for an tntluiry into the lamentable trailsar to.. of
August In. at Nlahrhesicr ; and complaining that the. (;our{
111 il4l. dist, 1116 beellled 1111.161/W1 to t•tific rather tle4n ieturrol•

Primo"' Head and ordered to be printed.
RAWCAL It I.:FORMERS.
Mr. BENNETT presented a petition froth an indleidoll
named Bamford, redding at Midaletim, setting forth that he
slits acquainted Kith the events n hid, preceded and occur-
red at the Nl:inch-stet Ldretieg, August 16, and preying se
boexansim d at the Bar of the noose.
The petit dm nits brought op and read.
REPAYMENTS TO THE BANK.
Mr. P. GILLS FE LI asked u hat progress ha been made
in repaying thermals boor:men from the ILIA; the untoturt
was 1'1,000,000L sad tbete was so uodeistanding that DO
pact had heesi d'e pa id.
The Cil A Nit:MA.OR of the EXCHEQUER rep ed
that a good drill had been repaid, awl that arrangements
had been made to repay .1,0.;0,0001. w ithio the time pa es.
cubed by Parliament. (Bear!) •
THE NEW RESURICTIVF: MEAstrid-A.
Mr. BROUGHA NI asked whether the Noble Lord irides-
Jed to persevrie iii pressing 16 mewma on Iturscht
important as they and strikin, at the most imports:,
filo itiesuf the country 2
Lord CASTLE:REA(' ' replied in tl.e offirmatisei,
especially as the swami'', s had been surrounded w Ali Hsi la
t•Libollite misrepresentations ; he bet attic au tioub that out a
misrepresentations should be removed as mon as possible.
Mr. BROUGHAM expressed his astuilismitent that the
meadows shosalcl be title uis,ttd to to tiles ties
House, were net to have time in consider lII* WHIP% 6611,01
were to pill an coil to the iiialienabie Rights of the People,
surely it 40541,1084 y be her ))))) ing in thrall to ::11;•141 their
constituents time tulcoro what were the lioeril3 of the ors
iiill4.--! Bear, hear l)
Mr. BENNErr deemed the measures sttrmp.cil to Ito
thus hurried through Parliament to aim at nothing looms
than the soberest JJJJ of the Constitution ; au l lio•sessing
such feeling, and being anxious dolt all the Mionliels of
the House at least should be present, to beheld such sub-
' version of the Constillition, lie ruse to give notice, that tie
should to-marrow move that these be a call of the Buttes.
—(Lund chest s.)
-sTAI'F. OF THE COUNTRY.
Lord ALTIJORP ruse to being fur ward his premised
motion regarding the Papers laid before the House by
Lord Castlereagh, as to the internal state of the country.
He was deeply iiiiprt ssed with the importance of the
mu-
lion; and chat had since occurs et, the new envisions
proposed by Ministers increased the difficulties under
which lie laboured. As to the papers, there were blanks
in them, and many pm to that required explanation. The
fact of the reading the Riot Art remained in considerable
doubt; how happened this? Cull and ample esplairationa
wets required. There was one very leinarkable fact
which proved this opinion. '1 h.: Lot d had stated,
(list on the IGih a Magistrate was trampled mailer foot;
how happelied it that no mention of it was made is the
pavers awl correspondence? (Hear.) And great part of
these thieuments Nell' anonymous, and cut 1111 l g too ft otn
persons also nese evidends acting as spies. ( Hear, hear.)
it might be attended with some danger at all times to
divilige names ; hot alien the House iccollerted what or.
emirs d two years ago, they would be slow to Ice...eve the
testimany of spies—suleersons who might woes at 44e l 0 the
roll 1111 l ,11111 of improper conduct, that information might
ett•tr be given againal the offending patties. (Hear, hear.)
He concluded nude moving, that the papers be lartscd to
a Seleet Co 1111 l
Col. DAVIES seconded the motion. To support the
system of the Ministers there netts large increases to this
army and to the taxes; theta was there nut 6 l • cause fur
the complaint of the peohik'? Why was there nut econo-
my, why did they not behold retreneliment ? in the aim),
alone, in almost all the depai ills, the salarics KC; e
nearly donbled, compared as Alt what they were in 8,16;
that bring a period of war, and the, country suss ha% ing
been at peace for years. Wheie was the ilecessity fur
PM is extravagant:sr He must cutdially cuncu ied w the
motion.

Mr. B. BATHURST Idnicated at tln• rourt.e ss hieh the
Opposution 'owned to he aolions to 1,01,10.. They ops.
pew ed to he tlepiroos of gibing a Idrit, slut an !Wended
4 ppo oval of those whose acts a ETC n.,N (.0161114111e I 01, 404
.1,0 to prevent the. Govet omen, Isom 114141111 trig iliku the
acts 4001 rontfort of ranch iodivi,tools.—(lleal, dill a 1ai04,12
from the Opposition.)

,
A very lung &bate followed. in whidi .Sri M. W. Ridley.
Mr. 111 l aird, Lord !Milton, Mr. Lambe .111.1 Mr. fierstey,
supported the motion for inquiry, and Lot
Courtestay, and Mr. Martin, agaiteit it.
The gallery was !lira cleared, and, upon a division, this
nuisiliers were—

Aniiiinit the motion X2I
Fur it
The House then adjourned at a qua' ter bciore two
o'clock.

WEDYESDAY, DEC. I.
Mr. C. HARVEY obtained leave to bring ins 13111 frr th•
lighting of the City of Norwich with Gaa.

—Mr.111106D411.4 moved tot Itetutns of Pauper Clrldra•
within the Hilit of 31ortalit). Ordered.
Col. DAVIS moved tor a Ileturn of the names of the Persons
who have belonged w the public civil d‘partmeate to the artlY iO
I England ar.d Ireland, the amount of their atilwiatinuathm. to
twacred.

Mr. ItENNETT said ho should abandon his ourion for a Nn
of the House. Torre bad ban the tatentl,tnee of 6710 told 11410
.„lat tubers, a number suflit,ent to ensure a tall Mader:A:on of**
, (Piai Pais *Ohne of 1 ieliortof o:ceaft‘s ice jyeto .J