The National Register.
London, England, 1821-05-21 00:00:00

TUE NA,Tia
inhabitants of Manchester whist
hill.—Laid on the table.
The bills on the table were forwarded

ti•e stages.,
1111514 STATIONERY, &C.—The Earl
verted to papers MIA on the Lode relating to the supply
of staiimiery to the government offices in Ireland; the
report on the subject was voluminous, but there was mat-
ter in it worthy the attention ul the house ; the noble earl
therefore gave notice, that he should submit a motion on
Monday, the 4th of June. It was also his intention the
same .I*y to make a motion us the subject of the public
expenditure.
TIMBER DUTIES KILL.—On the suggestion of the Earl
of LAUDERDALE, the debate expected on the lingoes
duties bill, which stood fur secosid reading this day, were
postponed, with the consent of Earl Bathurst, to Tuesday,
whet' the bill is to be commuted.
The house went into a cu. 1111 l dire on the Irish Gaol Fees
bill, which, with a few verbal amendineuts, was agreed to
and reported.
Their lordships then adjourned to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
MONDAY, MAY 14.

Mr. S. C. Whitbread, Sir R. Wilson, Mr. Denison, Sir
W. de Crespigely, and Mr. Lanibton, severally presented
petitions from individuals against the Newiugton Select
Vestry ball, complaining of their names having been stir-
reptitionaly obtained in support of such in , and
praying to have their names withdrawn front the petition
fur such bill.—Read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. LEN NAM) brought in the Ipswich gas light bill.
'lle Manchester market hill was read • third tune and
pawed.
The Shrewsbury paving, lighting, and watching bill was
read a third time and passed.
Mr H. SUMNER pre-ented a petition from John Chil-
ton, the solicitor tu the select vestry for Newington,
stating, that there had heretofore been must disorderly
proceedings in conducting the parish affairs. II also
slated, that most improper persons had, in consequence,
been selected to fill the parish others.
Suen.e.—Lord LONDONDERRY moved, that the
house go into a committee oh supply.
Sir J. NEWPORT hoped, if Use business respecting the
Bank of Ireland were to be brought on at all, that it
should be brought forward at an early hour.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply,
admitted the adveutage of bringing this question forward
rally.
1 he honor then went into • committee of supply.
• Mr. It. WARD brought forward a resole t ion, previously
postponed, tor -43,011 i. for defraying the rapeuces of the
office of master-general of the ordnance.
Mr. HUME cumplained of there having been 67 new
officers recently •ppuinirti.
Mr. WARD replied, that they were not very recent
appointments. Only 22 had brew appointed by the amide
duke (Welliugton); most of the others had been namod
in the regular routine of office, previously to the appoint-
ment ef the noble duke.
Cul. DAVIES wished to have one doubt cleared up—
whether the heads of the several departments had the pa-
tronage of appointing offic•r. and clerks under them ?
Mr. WARD explaincd the mode of arratiging the ord.
stance drparlineut. The niastei-general was assisted by
a board, and slit former did riot interfere with the ap-
pointments of the latter.
Lot. DAVIE" thought the explanstino made the matter
ten thousand times worse ; in the department there was
only one geisei al line of conduct. According to the
statement, the inaster-generol, the noble duke, was a mere
puppet, the hum member and has friends lied the appoint-
ments and patronage, while the noble duke bad all the
blame and responsibility.—(Haar, hear.)
Mr. WARD replied,that lie hardly knew where he was,
or where the bon. member could have been. Surely the
gallant officer could fielders have heard their debates, or
read any of their seporis i otherwise he ttttt st have kuusvn
the nature of the patronage moil apposuinieula.
Mr. BIRCH conserved, that alter so long a period of
peace we ought to have approached nearer to peace este-
blislinteuts. But an extravagatit expenditure was conti-
nued. While the expenditure of other countries was
renewed, Gras was persevered in; it was. tor installer,
u,totr,thrni. beyond that of France. Ihe portions of Our
spiteut weir resisted as they were brought tut wind. but
stands resistance ors edited " petty war tare;' he, how-
ever should like to know what sort of *arbor was nasty
to he successful, or what warfare would not be called
petty. He &Model like to know, fur instance, what the
corresponding clerks, who tout ~,4001. a year, had to do!
Mr. HUME observed, that lie had uli a former occasion
meant to be lerstood that since Ilse war there lied been
I 1 pesona introduced into the depai Intent, whi.e these
Were persona oh halt pay. W lest he contended was. tom
those appointments ',meld have beau made trona the halt
ilpay r; and that alone Monett have produced uposids of
7, OW rtaving. If there were no better reasons than what
lied beau urged today, he thought the committee must
admit the necessity of some change in coodtictisig the
ordnance &pat intent. lif the master general had so little
ccuestroul, II lie were to rely sin the septum oh those nude
him, red if he had nut Shell all appin ttttt tent, did not such
• sy stein oder premiums oil imperil ttttt lallolls I [hey were
likely to be recomisienited on light ground, and Welt theme
Were Vat:Miele' to fie tilled try toe heads tot the depots fluent
under the master-gentral. He 'maintained that there
ought to be a rethirtioal to the extent of 25 per cent. and
he concluded with moving a resolution to dial etlect, tuck-
tag the sum 25,3151.
On this amendment the committee divided—For the
amendment, 7b—Agatust it, I44—Major ity fur the origival
iesolsition, 65.
On our seturn to the gallery we found the house still in
t otentitter, and the chairman putting some other resole'.
lions, attach were tweed to *Mult any (roses vation.
Oil the leleallainti. ',slug put for maintain( the sum of
1
2 'LSI. ::a. 4d. tor the corn depot Intents ut the ordnance
in Wool* telt, Chieliate, Put tsmoutli, YiyisouUtil, and
Ghee obey.
Mi. HUNIE said, flint the whole of the establishments

in the ilitleielit outline is were ruin eiy too terse-. With
the view of reducing them hr should muse that 2.5 pee
eent. he deducted tsuas ilie sum propo.rll, and that Ili-
.teed of 20,1631. 3s. Id. the snot ld he 14,1711. 17v.64.
Osi this anici,,tni.iit :he edmmi ire de/wed—Fur tUe
•thriiiiintAit,s3—Ax..inst it, llo—Atojoi ity, 37.
'I lie twits.- !hell I rsoi rued : the repast W4ll Limited tip,
ordered to be rtreivcd to-moor:ow, and to be takeu into
lurtiret eousiduatiou on Wetloevday meat.

petit iftllll... died
in consequence of wenn& lie received on the fatal Inia*
August, at Manchester, praying for inquiry and redress.
—Read, and ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented seven similar peti-
tions ; the hest was hi am a female who had been dreadfully
wounded on that day. They particularly (observed the
hon. member) complained of the cavalry, but spoke well
of the conduct of the regular troops. They also prayed
for inquiry and erdrees.
Mr. HOBHOUSE presented • petition from an indivi-
'duel who bad been assaulted and wounded at Manchester
—namely, from Thomas Kelly, who was atterwards im-
prisoned eleven weeks without say charge whatsoever
being cohabited against him.
Mr. HOBHOUSE. then presented petitions from Henry
Thompson, of Hultorele-niours; Willisw Barnes, who waa
attacked at nine o'clock in the evening by the cavalry ;
Thos. Ashworth; Elisabeth Neild,wbe was ridden over ;
David Dawson, the father Or Dawson, of some place in
Yerkeisise who bud been cut down, and who had been
=t to Lelieve that there was no wiuog without a re.
Lord MILTON bore testimony to the artless and node-
signing character of this petitioner.
Petitions rend, and ordered to he printed.
Mr. HOBHOUSE then presented a peak,* from a
persou who, lie said, hail übtained a melancholy notoriety
iii the country. sod, be was sorry to say, also iu that house
—he meant William Ogden. (Hear.) He had received
two sabre wounds.

Mr. HOSHOUSE neat presented petitions from three
female's, and several other indis Wools, all of whom had
been wounded.— Ile also presented a petition from SAIMIIICI
Meier, who had been violently wounded.
Petitions read, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW presented petitions against the
usury laws Iron) the bankers, die. of the Wrlbi /tiding of
Yorkshire, of Swisitiou, ate.—Read, and ordered to be
printed.
Mr. HARBORD, withont wishing to anticipate the
hon. baronet's statements. which doubtless ovoid be de.
scribed with ability and proper heeling, could not but
advert to the transactions of the fatal day at Manchester.
The meeting of the 711 i of August was objected to, but
that of the 18th was not complained of previously to its
taking place; and although troops were not brought to
the neighbourhood, and placed in ambush, there was no
reason to imagine that it would be so violently interrupted.
Ha condemned the issuing of the warraut against Mr.
Hunt, and the mode of • ling it, which was nut by the
proper authorities, but by a political soldiery. (Hear,
hear.) The magistrates had doubts, nor was the cabinet
without them ; and it was painful to know that a clergy.
matt had taken a conspicuous part in the transactions of
th•t day—and who had since that time obtained prefer.
client in the church, doubtless tor his virtues and tempe-
rance. (Hear, hear.) As to the events of that day, 1141
confessed that since then, particularly since the Oldham
inquest, he had trembled fur the personal liberty of
batmen, and fur the country's character for eveu.handed
justice. He believed that the riot act was read, but in
such way that nobody heard it. He believed there was
no way of obtaining redress but through the medium of
inquiry at the Isar of that house.
Sergeant ONSLOW would not anticipate the debate,
but he could not suffer to pass, without reprobation, the
calling the description of coustituti 111 l al torte, the yeo-
augury, a political soldiery. As to the allusion to the Ksv.
Mr. Hay, he observed that tue preferment canoe from a
distinguished prelate, and bad been promised two years
ago. (Hear, 'tear.)
Lord MILTON observed, that the yeomanry of Eng-
land had nut beau alluded to, but those of Msiicherter.—
~.

(Hear.)—As to the living, had not an arrangement been
wade with the prelate to give this living to 'lr. Hay, Oil
condition or having one in the gift of the government il3
return ?

Mr. HARRORD added, that lie had beard the state.
mein, and lions one of Mr. Hay's friends.
This petition and two others brought up were read.
Mr. F. PALMER presented a petition front 1). Ellis,
comp) g ut tile proceedings at Manchester.
Mr. LORE presented ids petitions Irons inhabitants
of Middleton, who had been cut down with sabres.
Ms. S. C. WHITBREAD presented pew tuns *rum Jas.
Boothey, eite. complaining of the proceedings ut the ca-
valry, of wounding the petitioners, etc.
Mr. LEN NAM) also presented petitions from Elisabeth
Tay, an others, who had been trampled upou and ens with
a shore at Blanchester.—Read, and ordered to be pinned.
Sir It. WILSON said, he had 13 petitions cos the same
subject. (A laugh.) He thought ►t was nu laugligule
matter. (Hear, hear.) Niue ut the petitions were Irons
women; all bad been cut down, or trampled upon. Oilier.
were ti um Joseph Jones, Joseph Fustian, Ed wit. dottiest/to,
Wigiatr Clieetliam, (who ned been severely wounded, who
spoke of the conduct of Lurd Stanley, tee.) 'limy prayed
liar inquiry end redraw, as the uuly tannins of restoring
coundence in the laws.—He desired Cheethain's petition
to tie particularly read, as the petitioner was severely used
by the " cowardly trumpeter," and as it spoke of Lord
Stanley as a magistrate.
Lund STANLEY admitted, that he had been foreman
of the grandpas). He did belong to the troop, as did the
petitionei ; and he owned he had expressed his regret to
see the petitioner in the situation in which he was placed
before the jury. Hot he had not laughed at the petitioner,
us-treated mins with cuutempt.—Pettimus ordered to be
printed.
The other petitions were from Joseph Brierly, Margaret
Booth, Aura Whitaker, Elisabeth, Isaitella, and Helen
Hardy (three sisters), Mary Peel, at c.—ltead and ordered
to be printed.
Su R. WILSON then presented a petition Rom Robert
Taylor White, who Coniplaitied of a persecution muter the
law—if law could be applied to such a trousdictiOn as he
desert tied.
several other petitions were presented, with similar
prayei a.
M ?deli ter Eft Buss le tes.—Sir F. BUR OFT r then rose
to bring turnout his pi wished motion. In doing so,lhe bun.
baronet euteted low an aiiininied mud indinressive detail of
the calamitous events of Ike 18th of Aiyist, Ibl9.—Oue
advantage lie maintained, had b. en obtained by deliy—they
bail non 'uncut( d the aiiiiiicst ana tile most trospernte le-
counts ol the events ut that fatal day. But it was afflicting
e Itiodo that all these accounts teudee to shew the esag,e.
ruled, the Amenities., be might say, the false statements gnat

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„ilium the mambas'," Begets The other wrders of the tiny tea re thee slispueed of,
sod the hums 144,1n-ord.
were forwarded la their respee. TUSADAT, MAY IS.
MARCHEITIR EVILMTS.—Mr. BENNETT presented
!.—The Earl of DARNLEY ad- petition front JlllllOl Lee 4. the brother of Lees who died
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