The National Register.
London, England, 1817-06-23 00:00:00

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thing. (Ilurn.) What I will men, yids minds and hearts of Eng-
lisluzet, natal-re this for months and gears to be starved ? (No.)
How are we to be restored to our rights? Not by talking I—Not by
long speeches—not by petition; for fur petitions are not heard.
(Brays.) It appears we &replaced in a state of bondage; the rights of '
civil soeiety are Lot attendid in. The calls of the multitude from
tune to nine have availed nothing. That Parlament that was des-
tined fbr the pro:at:on of the pen la, has been invited to assemble
together, to take into colisiileration the distresses of these calamitous
times ; to ennsiilte, in their ate loin, if they possess wisdom, the situa-
tion in which we 4„:r ow, el. In thirdiatressed -tate sf things th:y
should have obeyettour call; they should have assembled hig,thi.r ,
Isr ti have taken into esnsideration the s' edema of a dying multitude,
404 not be deaf to our prarzs. (G fns and lions.) It mar! r...
*A ourselves. then ,to consider how w eto ?ell( se ourselves in tit. -,
calienitious timer. We have ken to truly, that trade and iiori-
tr.er^i: have been annihilated; but still we have the earth which 'eat ure
deth.toed fir the support of mankind.—The ray:li is solicit/irk/ piaci:
every nun in distress in a comfortable situation. If be has hut a
spade and a hoe to turn up his mother earth, that will prevent linii
fiiont. starring. Inane situation in winch we are ;dared, lit.w is this
to he done ? I will tell you ; I bad said that the bowl.; of society
have been neglected; what. then, is i.Kir situation ? They have placed
us in a state of nature. They have neglected the tries of the hungry
and starving ptople. Not • day passel in the streets of this ;great
metropolis, in which people are not seen starving to death- Are they
ignotaht of this ? (No.) If they are, they ought not to le ; hut they
are not. They know well that th.i.peg:e are starving in every- part
of the kingless', and yet will atitnit of no meauttes to relieve them I
(Groats.) Will they now heat o'ir cries? cNcy Have they not been
supplicated in the la.-.guage of' men. initbelanptage of forbearance.
and of patient suffering? (Yes.) The Israelite,' were in a state of
bondage for a lunge time, but- we donble that time. Ever since the
Norman (:onquest. kings tand Lords) have been deluding you.—
They have, in many instances, converted the people to their own
wicktiputposes ;but this must not last any longer. (Shouts.)
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Genttenon, such was the longunge of the prisoner on that '
occasion. It was impossilde to misunderstand his allusion. to
the Norman Conquest. It io ohs:turn that his object was to
bring into scandal and contempt the kingly authority. We
thin come to the address of the prisoner's eon to the multi-
to de then assembled. It was to this effect:—
•• The last time wetnet in this place, I had the honour of saying
akw words. I was the person who parted the zeo4ution for our
meeting again this day.—lt was said thew that we should hold our
nseotong on the first day of the trice of Pieliamier. It was rat in
out power, however, to toll when Pa&ament would meet—it might
never men at all ! (Applause.) At that time we agreed to present a
petition to the Prince Regent. This petition, we have been told,
was presented. but answer there was none, except that ti:e Prince
Regent said. • that his family never intended to the prayers of tlse
or they never answered any petition which did not comic from
pro;
of Oxford and Cantbrld„;e, or from the Correlation
of London; in other words, • I sill not attend to the prayers of the
people* (—... lap.) This man calls himself the father of the people
t— him.) Is it tot Of duty of a &her m protect his children ?
(Yes.) Does he do so? (No.) No, leaves you but too me.-
ground for complaint ; while he on your rights. Them is
no 11,00.117 which he sparse: he Mao * mpg:lces will be paid out
of your pockets (Osoono). J'at we to this any longer? (Na.)
is
Will Englishmen any longer ming selves to be trampled upon
like the Boor African slaves in , est Indict. or like clods and
L,, p
stones (No, we must have relief). 1 r4Ttexped nothing (Yes). I
beg your pardon,—since our meeting, from the resoiotions
which were passed by the people, call' ing leron each other to come
ft.rward, stone persons did distribtue ox-cheek broth and ox-bone
soup. (Laughter.) Many came towed with their 2001. andr-Cvd•
who should have come forward with their one hundred Andrea hun-
dred thousands ! De you believe that these contributors have 3 sincere
wish ter the people ? (No.) They osme forward to rob you of all you
possess, and then give you w- peony to pay the turnpike (Laughter
ard cheers). The Prince Regent, is Isis great generoato, in conse-
qoince of our miseries. has given you 500C1. out of fads which do
cot touch his own poiket (Stouts). Ile plunders yet of millions,
and then gives you part of the spoil. My friend hem (Mr. Preston,
as was supposed) has been described to the Treasury Jon-trials as a
second %Vat Tyler. No bad title; he be it recollected that Wat
Tyler stepped boldly forward for the purpose of resisting an oppressito
tax--and would have succeeded had he not been basely murdered by
William Walworth, then Lord Mayo? of London. Hut we have no
bull-rush Load Mayor now ; and if he had been surrounded by
thenismois of his fellow countrymen m l am now, heneed notdouht
his success. (Burro!) It seems the determined resolution cf mi-
nisters to carry things with what they call a high hand—or as t'acy
say, Our Sovereign Lord the King will carry, every thing with firm-
ness. In short, they will carry the bU.' ineas in defiance of the voice
of thepeopie. (Cheers.) If they will not give its what we want,
then shall we not take k ? (Yes, vest) Are you willing to take it ?
(Yes, yes'.) Will you go and take it? (Yes.) If 1 lamp down
among you, will you follow me i (Yes ! yet ! front a thousand
voids.'
Upon which he jumped down, and the prisoner and his son.
heading the mob, proceeded towards the city, accompanied
by 'll6th:wood and others of the conspirators. In their pro-
gress they were assailed by some of the police-officers (who
will be called to you) and by whose cicerones some of the
banners ant{ flags were taken.friin them. Oa one of those
banners was inscribed, •• The sphliers are our friends—treat
them kindly." Can any man dotibt that the object of this
inscription was to seduce the aoidicry, iu ease it should be
found necessary to call them oust for the purpose of putting
down and repressing the itisitrri•ction.--Why were the gun-
smiths' shops attacked, and the pawnbrokers, except it was to
furnish arms which were to answer the purposes they bail in
view? All doubt will now be removed, by which I shall have
made out a case from these transactions in support of the
indictment, namely, conspiring sail imagining the death of the
King, intending to depose the King, and also levying war for
the prirpose of deposing his Majesty. ~.
Mr. V. G. Dowling, exumined by the Solicitor general.
W as present at the Spa Fields nierting on the loth Novem-
ber, and produced from his short bawl notes the speeches
of the two Watson!, for whist see the Attorney-General's
speech.
C ^.e vmu itied by 11l r. Wetherall.
Wittier:dm, riot asked any reward from Government. Fie
bas hero promised !woe. Ile dues slot expect ouy. tie never
said he was yittinici.4l any,omployrnent uncle. rioverriment
iu eousequeuce of the share be had in tbi, t.lioilleba. lit LX-
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peeled payment merely for his labour as short hand writer;
he never said he expected any reward or employment front
Government, nothing beyond the payment of his service as a
short-hand writer, he lead dose more than mare writing for
Government, and therefore he expected something more than.
the mere remuneration per folio; he, perhaps, said geueraity,
that he expected to he reironerated for his truthle. Witot ss
irenscriht d the short-hand owe:: ist root. of the proceedittra
in spa I I.h on that day, mud it to a pPrt4l.; W-11 !U•
MI. Beckett, the Under Seceerar:. f); etr qooteDep.irt•let:t.
11, ihu s roml, he certainly inl VIVe the tr4itters.nt of a
short-hand note to Me Beckett the ftlhiveing;teas
not so a, eor,;re copy of hi. short-haud eTS Itt.ut
Wilk') lie 17:t•I rean to the Cutlet i„ the t...wiger W.ll ll:Vre nag:4-
platy writt,:ii

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14icitard P:att, examined by Mr. Oterney.
• While I some in Mr. Beekwitlis shalt. a young than r,: •!...sif
in, stamped his foot twice, and e ieil, " Arms ! Arms ! ti7e
want arena." He threw his pistol up, cocked it, and was in.
thee net of bringing it down, when I struck at him with my/
lett hand, rend caught the muzzle of the pistol. He drew .t
from me to prevent we-, and brought it round and shot roe :re
the belly. The bail entered about four inches from the nave 1..
He ran at me again: I supposed it was a double byre/ st
pistol, and I elide avoeired to retch it ; 'closed with hien, alio rt
Mealtime{ a blow with the butt end of it; and I do not knew
what became of it. I said, ta hat did you shoot me for: I art
one ofy on t lie then leaked up to the ceiling, said, "My
God! ::end for a surgeon: I ant a snrgeon myself, I am set,.
led young man ; I have been ut Spa-fields." lle endeacoens•
ed to pass, but I ;tail him stopped. A constable Came tint
searched his pockets, in which wore found a pair of lancet..
We were a considerable time in Mr. Beckwittes countire-
ing house. together ; and the atirgeon and myself escaped
over a wall the back way in safety.
F.vidence of Castles, the .Necompliee.
John Castlee was then called. Ire said lie knew Watson.
the elder perfectly; he knew yonng Watson, Thistiewood,
Hooper, and Preston ; be knew Hooper two rug ago, and
becanie acquainted with Watson about the Ist of October
last: be had seen him before, he hacame acquainted a ith
him at the Cock, in Grafton-street, where 3.seciety of Spec.
mins meet. Watson f.rst introducer! himself to•inin by say-
ing it would be an easy thine to upset Government cond aim-
ally, if properly handled. 11:is was at Oral-ton-street, and
they appointed the next n'sglit to meet at the Mnlllierry Tree,
Moot-fields, where another society of Speu:eana meet. Ile
saw Preston that inure night, and hail 3(1.11 Lire 1,041. tr ;, Pro*.
ton that night bad called him down stairs, and wished hint in
meet him at another house near Fleet. nart.et, %sheer: a soci-
ety of tradesmen met. Ile ask, d for what pnrpese they met.
Preston said, it was to petition Parliament to do away the
trise of machinery. kfe also asked the soma fp:ration as Wat- •
son had, to meet the next night. Fie told tin: he bad ',toady
promised Watson. Accordingly di the next night be met
them at the Mulberry Tree. The two Wutsume, Pie:vile,
Hooper, Thistleweeod, and the two *:varies, were the re, and
John Harriser.; the *there he did not know. He was led
away that night with the prisoner Watson, who again repeat-
ed, it would be an cazy trattet to npset I,*.ervernment, it' thin
thing was handled as it ought to be. The witness asked what
Way? Watson said, it could easily be dune, if a few goes!
fellows were got toeether. tie said he had kirosrlf de awn
tip a plan to prevent the cavalry front attacking the people.
He then :aid, they had already got several people, and 4
Committee was formed, and sitting, to devise the best mode
and the best plan. He then asked where he lived, and the
witness told hint, No. a, New.street-road. Watson said, he
would call the next morning and skew him his plat'. He did
call the next day, at one ow Saturday morning, and *hewed
him several pepers ; one was a plan of the Tower ; a plan of
the new line to keep off the cavalry front annoying the mob;
it was about the size of a common comas wheel, with spikes
and a sort of scythe at the end. Ile wished the witness to
exert himself to get men to join them. There were other
drawings of the bridges and ildherent avenues to the Toweg,
lie asked how many men the witness thought he could bring;
he replied, he knew a great many, but did lot /scow whether
they could he depended upon if they were put to the beet.
Watson said he must crert himself ; the witness replied, he
had nothing but his business to live on; he said, never retied
that, they had plenty of money, and wends' find something
, better for him. He believed they met again that night, but
certainly next morning, and during a walk down Drnryslane,
Watson said, they had got a Committee of five—Thistlewood,
Harrison, Preston, himself, and son; that he should be made
one of the generals, and have a party of pikemen and others,
and might consider himself as nun of the committee from ttaat
time, and they would take no more. They then made ano-
ther appointment to meet at a Spetteean meeting, at the Nag's
Head, in ('arnaby Market; they ACCOldinkly met that esea-
ing at the Naga Head—both the Watson*, Preston, Hooper,
Thistlewood, and the two Evanses; out the Tuesday tellowing
be set the eider Watson by appointeneut ; they wove to go
and inspect the Purtmarentreet Barracks and the king..street
Barracks; front thence they went to the Powder Magaame
in Hyde Park—one Skinner was with them; their object ass
to see how the barracks could be best set foe to. When they
were alone, Watson said, Skinner was not so clever as .te
thought; he had no idea of him at all-. he intended to Lace
• made him an officer, but It would nut do. The Weduesslag
following. as he believed, he met Watson at Newton's,. cud
was introduced to Thistlewood, by Hairrisou ; ha ontataidahe
strangers who were present, and he had a Conversation with
'fhistlewood as to how length would take lii.o to make a quad.
tity of pike heads has he was by trade a smith); Newton's is
' a public house, near liroad•rourt, Drury-lone; he told This.
&wood he had no place to make any ; Harrison said, tie
thought he knew a person who would lead the use of llip.
! I forge; be the canine they met epaiti, and in the mean time
hit' bad got a ill!,.: head, veltich yetis, wade by one 'lento y, in
t 4 little gimp in it cellar in Hart street; lie asked Bmiticy pa
• lend Lim tits. WI, of his forge to wake a slat, but Be-limey

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dleint•elf ma le it. In the evening they met, and it was, pro•
duced ; Des Watson Said it was a follOtet Weapon. Watson
Mien gave him a paper, with No. o, Greystoke-place, sternum,
.o • the how,: ss here the. cramiiittee was ilea. About that -time
Isle 101 l been to Paddington by Thistlewood's directions,
waoss•t the navigators, fowled many out of employ, and some
11f t. cis $.11,1 they world rather die any hew than be starved
death. Upon main,: Issw Monty could be got toesthss in a
.1.: thine, they w ett• tole) that live or six hundred (mid be
a•rarered. From tliesee they called at the peddle (anuses iu
Base street and Viaeear-y area to sesintd the opinions ise the
on duty at the thralls. , and to the lox ;under the
Ire:K Adelphi, ar el se vosol ether poiblie houses, to tient ps es
aple out of employ, mei he owe told if he found one 11113 e s io-
last Othel!,, to take leis name and adilsess and commenis
.4.4te it to Thistlewood. Ali appointeneut was made at GI -
11:ikt-pIUCA 'tier the Fe idayfeilewieg, at eleven : lie gorthere
spreeistely to the tense, but there was nobody iu the hones; iu
ir.bn.'.f.g away he met 'lliastlewood, and they wsalt back;
letrutturi had wit corme with the key, hat he some afire• arriied,.
as.d they went into the lisovie; soon after young Watson at-
eel, ho announced that he mid Thistlewood had inspected
tse barracks to see how they email be tired, but these was
t a :node of getting the people together. The pike head was
ptoduced ; Thistlewood said it was a Cameos weapon, and
I! at he would love 2SO made. All the Committee was there
escept Hari isoa. %illness reported that he and Watson had
also inspected the barracks to see how all the asenuee might
I.e tiled at once ; that there were six avenues to hang-street
Barracks, and only two to Portelau.strect Barracks. Watson
was desired to valentine bow mud' combustibles it would take
to tire all the avenues at the same time, and they appointed
the next Sunday fur a general Meeting of the Csenneitie. at
eleven. to arrange the whole plan. 'limy did inert ou the
Sunday and in the semen time he bad ordered 2ao
pike heads of flunky and pawl him dos. so advance. This-
tiewuod said he had inquired where handles were to be got,
'sand that they 'Mean be oletaioed at some place behind the
laiug's Bench. The next Sunday nurseling they all met, the
„home was searched, to see that no one was coneraleal, and
they lie4an their deliberations. Thistlewood pcoduced a snap
of London ; first the reads wile marked out to the places of
attack—they were arranged where every 'non was to take
his station as a genteel. The Committee were all generals.
Dr. Watson proposed Thistlewood to be commander in chief,
ars he fouucl ail the money. They were to be armed with
).Lltes and different other weapons—whatever they could get.
Watson the elder was to set tire to Portman-street Barracks
--the na aerials 'Hothoused for the purpose were pitch, tar,
rosin, turpentine, spirit. of wine., sulphur, dc. The thing
was to be dour by attacking and setting the to the barracks
.at every avenue, at One teolock in the morning. All persons
asset in the meets WPM to he slopped; gentlemen's carriages
-were to be stepped, the hoe ses taken Irma them and mounted
by men who were to art as eavaley. After this, witeleve was
for join the raster Watsou at the top of Os ford-road, near the
:Park, mass havina° seen that noise rSe3p,-d 'front the hooting
Or the barracks. Harrison also Was to join th,le with the
Roo pieces-of artillery ; a volley W.'S to be filed to chew they
had got alum Some ',daimon wire to be left at Hyde-park
[hac to protect the gnus. They were thou to .proceed to
to barricade the avenues to the Park, to bassi-
'settle Portman-street, and all the entrunces in that quarter,
efsr the pin pose of prevelaing uny eavalry.frOill coming in elan
might be out of quarters. They were then to go to the Pie-
-caddly gate, (witnese means the turnpike gale at the corner
.eta Hyde-park. Piccadilly ;) that gatst was to Ise chained and
-I leaded, and a party was to be left there to fire ou any
.horse that might come from the country—then to proceed to
Charing-cross and the bridge (wino-its means Westminster
lohlg,e), and barricade MI tlioreabouts, to stop any troops
Iliac might come in by way ofClielsea. As soon as Thistlewood
and the younger Watson had secured the gents, (which wit-
alesi had already said they were ordered toaake), they were
then to attark the gonsmiths' shops and oil shops.; every shop
where any arms or combnstible materials could be got. This-
tlewood end young Wataon were to block up erevy place from
Guy's liindiane to St. Cites's, where 'Thistlewood was to make
Les grand stand; a gun was to point tip Tottenliameourt
.Road. Preston's business was to attack the 'Power; young
Watson was to proceed from St. Giles'; to Cumberland-gate,
barricading all the seennesam the right as be went ou. Pres-
ton, it' lie failed of taking the Tower, was to barricade ton-
dan bridge against any artillery that might-conic from Wool-
wich, then to barricade Whitechapel against any troops that
vapid come that way. After that, ;Preston was to join the
attain body at the Bank, which was known by the cant Haile
or The Oki Lady," as the Tower was by the name of" The
Old Gentleman," or " The Old Man," et was all-the same.
Whilst these plans were forming, Thistlewood asked Watson
what the eorobustibles would cost, and how much would he
wanted for each avenue to the barracks? Thistlewood bid
the Doctor calculate it ; the Doctor made a calculation that
that the whole would eost something short of 1001. Thistle-
avocet then said, " Do not spare a matter of 201. let us roast
them well.' Dr. Watson observed, that the combustibles
week, burn so rapidly, and the stench so strong, as to slide
NI the soldiers in a few minutes. The next day, after (leis
-plaii was settled, witness and the younger Watson were de-
s;ned to go look for a 'twist between the two barracks, to be
oniar them, in which the combustibles and arms were to be
lodged, they were to say the house was wanted for acv bllsi-
LiebS they chose—they said an oel and colour shop, liocaase
—then the eonalmstibles could be bloaght in witholit, ally sus-
*ciao. The whole Committee seas present when this It.ti-
Le.. 5 was settled. Thistlewood said to witnese. " Do not
.131azid the price err the hones, at we do not intend to pay for
at," and then ordered witness and young Watson to go about'
:Ow Louse next prorn;ne . and the Doctor to bring Mt, coin
bustibles. In agreeing for the house, young Warron was to
pats fur the master who wanted it, and Witness for his ter-
•eat. Wane.), held the fourth place in the Committee, Dr.
Warren proposed him for it. 'Thistlewood was to be the tirst,.
Ttt. Watson the second, Harrison the third, witness the
f.airth—Preeton proposed yoesog Watson the fifth, and hien-•
lilt' the last, -on account of his lameness. It was then set-
t isd that they should appoint a Committee, the Committee of.
Pahlie Safety—it was Thistiewood who proposed it. This
sCotomitiee was to he called togs tier titles they (witness and
•Illtilitertythad got the better el the soldiers, or been joined
.by them. Twenty-four semes.were mentioned to form the
47(omenittee ; witness remembers the following names :—Sir
:a•raneisßurdett, the 'Lord Mayor, Lord Cochrane, Henry
Brun, Fag. Major Cartwright, Gale Jonce, Mr. Roger
1)1:oolitic, Squirt Folkes or Fawkes, of Yorkshire, Samuel
Brooks, Me. 'fhompson, of Holbosn Hill, Watson the elder,
isnot Thistlewood. As soon as they had got the better of the
soldiers, that is " " • prociamm
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ter, they weee to have donne pay for life, instead of the
tee euinces. 'l'histiewood asked Watson how much it woold
:111,,,mit to if all the eoldiers should prefer the 100 guineas,
and the Doctoe aaswered, aloeit eente.th'Ul. which was no-
thing to compare with the tiatiomil debt that was to be wiped
t% itures and the younger et atsoa went to look out for
an empty lioase ; they found oust 'mar Seymour Place ; a
woman chewed them the house, and Force red diem to a tim-
ber merchant near that (the Conti.) Witness does not remem-
ber the inc. tentitt's name, but it may be Crasser; be requite,'
lel, or lat. fur tisiuris, and asked for a reference. Witness
gas a .ehistlaeroodee address, in Soathampton Buildings. Wit-
ness and voting Watson theti wait to Greystoke Place, No.
e, and fotind the whole Committeesittiug there, and reported
e hat they had done; Th.stlewood said,Nery well, and that
he <hoohl be at home for Mr. Cesare. Witness came away
with 'lliistlewood, who said as they were coming along, that
the miter) of the people was, they wanted arms, and be then
ordered witness to get 250 pikes :ions.. Toon; 11 arson went
to Casser, who refused without three mouths rent paid, and
that he had not got the house. The whole Committee met no
the following euuday, in Greystoke Place; Harrison pro-
posed that 4, they had been disappointed of getting men,
they should eolleet a public meeting. 'I his was unitaimoted
agreed to, and Spatields propostd as the place. Thistle
wood and the elder Watson went to see the round, and re•.
ported that it was a famous place, near the Tower nod the
Bank, so that the town might he bike,' by surprise. Thistle-
wood said, " Now, Doctor, draw up a hand bill that may be
distributed or stuck on the walls as a placard. ninotie the
low er orders nut of employ in the Borough, Spitallields, Petty
France, Paddiegton' and where vor there ate most mecha-
nics and (ohms without employ." This WAS accordingly
written by Doctor Watson. The elder Watson and witness
then went to the printer's tot the bills ; the printer, who was
out, came in in a few minutes, said he had been at some office
to knots it' he could legally print them, as he Vial afraid of
being brought into trouble, and had beta in a scrape before,
therefore he would destroy those he hail printed, and give
them the paper for the remainder ; the printer kept the bills
in his own lianas, and would not even ehow them; young
Watson then arrited, and proposed to tear of Ilse printer's
name at the bottom ; the printer would not agree ; the elder
Watson brought away the paper to a public house, from
whence witness hronght it to the Committee, and reported
Butt the printer refused , witness does not recollect his name
—it may he tritest er ; then the elder Watson said he would go
to one Scale, in Tottenham Court Road, a ho would print 250
immediately, npon ROM! extra payment: event accordingly,
and came back and resorted that 258 -would be printed
by eight o'clock next morning. Dr. Watson then said he
could get a man to distribute the bills and stick the placard,:
at 2s. ed. the small, and 4s. MI the large ones ; it was next
agreed that letters slimed be written to Niel.% Burdett and
Mr. Hunt, inviting them to the meeting at Spa-fields, and the
advertisement for the raper was given to Watson, the elder,
with seven shillings to pay for it. The whole committee
came in the afternoon to the Cock, and the men wets:
.paid
there, and were desired to come nekt morning. They did so
and went into the streets, as on the slay before, with the
hand-hint, having the placards on their back. A meeting
in Spa-fields was agreed upon, atilt the plan was detailed to
Llooper as follows—that the two WilIM)1111 were to address
the mob from a waggon at twelve o'cl9ek, to he befureitand
with Hunt, who was to 40040 at one, and if the spirit of the
people appeared good, Thistlewood seas to.itimp down .frosn
the waggon and head the twoh into town ; they (witness and
i the rest of the committee) weeds to jump down along with him,
having cockades in their hats or bosoms. and with a .flag.
If the mob said they wanted weapons, they (the counnietee)
were to say they should soontnd them in the gunsmiths' shops.
Scarcely one gunsmith's shop had been left without inspec-
tion, to see what arms they contained, and where siteuted.
This was tnentioticd by the elder Watson or by Thistle-
wood. Whet' the arms were thus procured, the Bank and
the Tower were to be taken by surprise. If the Bank was
taken, they were to get on the top of it, and on the tops and
in the windows of the neighbouring houses, to kill the soldiers
by throwing any thing they found, such as bottles ; and if the
Bank was in danger, of being retaken, they were to destroy
the books in order to do away the National Debt ; this was
the plan detailed to Hooper; they met on the Tharsday, that
is, the committee met; Hooper, being one, sentont placards
and hund bills as before ; met again in the evening, but
Preston came there only for some bills: I went to the 'Power
three or four times, once with 'f hietlewood, and the other
times with young Watson—l distributed a great munv bills
in the Tower—twice on those occasions I showed the soldiers
the tri-colotired cockades—it was in one of the taps—half
a dozen soldiers might be present—we conversed with the
soldiers, we asked them whether they would like to work for
a master that would give them double wages, or be as they
were Whether they would sooner fight for a big.loaf or a
little one ?

' One of the Jury.—Were these questions asked in a tam-
pering manner, secretly ?—No, they were spoken aloud ;
the people we were drinking with could hear ; they said
they all wanted a big loaf.
Conrt—Did you and young Watson report to the committee
what you had done ?—Ves ; and how we found the spirit or
the ;people.
The witness then proceeded :—At one of the esoetings
either Thistlewood or the elder ‘Vatson said it would he well
if we could get a couple of hundred young women and dress
them in ;I;te, for them tirearry small flags, and have cock-
ades, or if we could 4et money enough to dress them all
alike, for the purpose of walking tirst, in order to take the
attention of the soldiers, so that they should not ride over.
iss, and give them time to address the people. On Friday,
the.S9tli of Novemh-r, T end young t 1 as on weld through
Exeter Change, to see how many pistols, guns, and sobris,
there were hanging up, and at the gun-shop opposite. We'
looked at several other shops, and one which had a great
quantity of carving-knives in the window. We went to
the Savoy, amongst the people who were working at the':
new bridge; we delivered the bills of the meeting, and in.'.
vited the people to come, and the same et the Fox
undex the Hill ; then we went to 'the Rip, or canteen,
at the Morse Gnards, where we saw /11),o, soldiers.
They were•to et re'. the soldiers one hundred guineas dowr. AS
soon as they should joins:hem, or dimible par for life, which!,
they liked hest. The pistols he had brought were .loaded.
At this time the colours and cockades wileif' 'I histlewood'st
possession; they were brought to Gre) stoke-place on the
Suuday. Me remembered, on the Saturday, a frame was,
made for a piece of calico, on which an inscription was to be
written by Dr. Watson, the elder. lie eras to put the in-
scription im the ealieo, with a pencil, in red letters.; witness
saw the itteeriPliehl it was, ' The Brave Soldiers are nor'
brothers, treat them ,He OW. Watson:is:sir'," that
would make a peat iutpiculonaualice min& of. the soldicrs."•

JUNE .If.l.

Witness thot evening went to Nt'inilermude and woid the row
niaioder of the money for the hire of the waggon. The wig.
gin was then ordered to he :tt flee lop of Guancery-!one, tint
it conic accordingly at the titer agreed vipon. On the fol.
lowing morning, witness went to the Mack Dog, where he
tend Thistlewood, the elder Watson, Hooper, and !seams.
Witness enquired l'or yarning Watson and Preston; he was
answered, " Why did he ask that question, when he knew
that they were to go ewly iu the mot gto raise all the men
they could get at Spitallields, and in the :Wineries." Pistols
were then given to witness, who loaded three of them: loc
was then directed to put the colours in the waggon, and told,
it' any of the Civil Magistrates or police of should inter.
rapt hint, to shoot them or rim them through the hotly, awl
it was added, they had no occasion to sided the cis it power,
if they could bit keep off the horse soldiers; a quantity of
100.45, 60) or 70 or more, were pet into an old stocking. which
was put into a dirty white handkerchief ; these, with some
gunpowder, were given to Kcaas to wiry to the waggon;
witness and Hooper then proceeded to the top of Chancery •
Lute, where they foetid the waggon, and Wiedermude and his
two bags; he and Hooper then went to his hidgings for the
flag ; Windermude tied it to the staft; put it into the waggon
himself, and pate it in charge to Hooper, it wits rolled up at
that time; witness then went to No. I, Dean-st-eet, where he
found Keens wrapping .np the banner in two old blaiikets:
witness nssisted Leans to pin it up in the blankets ; left h!:•1
to take it to the waggon, and saw no inure of them ; lie then
went to London-bridge, where he was directed to go it.:
order to meet the smiths—be found none there, mid every
thing was perfectly quiet—he saw nobody that he Isht•w—he
proceeded down '!'Lames-street to the Tower• Mill, and to the
Tower, where he found the gates shut, and an extra seritty
on ; lie conversed with the soldier, mai asked him the reason
of the :gates being shut? the soldier replied, " that it was on
account of .the meeting that day in tipwdllelds ; Thistlewood
anti Watson, sen. addressed the soldiers without the walls of
:he Tower VI:TOSS the ditch t They returned with the mob tip
the linories to go to tips Fields to get a greater force, as the
seldiers did not seem to take any notice of them; witness
was thirty or forty yards flow the place w here Thistlewood
and IVatson stood while addressing the soldiers ; the re %il.
a great noise at the time; he was above 23 yalds from nor
feu thest gunsmith's shop.
Exatuined by the Jory.

Thistlewood and Watson both were speaking to the soldif•ti
at the same time.; they %ere in front of the mub there nese
forty or fifty so'diers on the parapet.

Examination continned by Mr. Gurney.

Returning up the Minories, a wheel came off the carriage
of one of the field pieces ; young Watson then halted the mob
w them to form m seine order; when near the
top of the Minot its thirty or tot ly horse soldiers made their
appearance, and immediately the• Ereater part of the mob
throw doss n their arms mid ran away ; witness walked on
till the soldiers were passed, as if he had not hr lunged to the
rioters; Moulted: did the same —he went to a public house at
the top of dark-lime, where he r••uruined till it wus nearly
dark : he then went to No. 1, Dean-street ; got dime
about half past six o'clock, where he found the two %Voisin's,
Preston, and Thistlewood. Suon after he artived Oleic, the
elder Watson began to pack up his papers and linen u• it'
going away. Witness inquired where he and his son were
gibing? Thistlewood told they were going a little way into the
country, where a house. had been prepared fur them, and
they would hear front theta soon. M.ituess iuqui►ed where
Hooper was, and was told by Thisilewood that he was taken
(as some of them must expect to he) with Um colones; lie
added, that the Watson% were going a little way out of town,.
but they-should soon hear from them at the Red Hart, in Slice-
lune, .by the name of John Williams. Witness asked if they
bad shot auy body ? Young Watson said he did not know.
Thistlewood said he was perfectly satisfied VOW that the peo-
ple were not ripe enough to act. The two Watsons and
Thistlewood went away ta„ethcr, at about halt' past six, or
seven o'clock. The things in the house Preston's daughter
was to fetch aWily, and take them to Greystoke-plate.
key of-the house was left with Preston.

t °Mien, th.st os soon as they had suceseeded, a pro
'Jon vvis to ts• i•siied, telling that a new Government
-he estahlkhed, and a !minty of inn guineas offered
.st.h.liet who .I:l.atlttjoiu Weal; or, if the soldiara liked