The National Register.
London, England, 1821-03-11 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER

observing, thil lllt'll'. nal great (fallen:tier I)4.l%see:a tine
and compiling, because lino might operate as ins i4eitaal

in 11,11,11141111.111.
Mr. C. W. %VYNN thought it w.sx wa sot!' a o.te as the
home could receive. It rec.' red to %%hat had taken plate
In the couise of debate in that house.

The SPEAKER understood the practice to be, when
Butch retelenee wit.; made, not to countenance it.
Mr. 1101SHOUSE observed,after what had passed from
the Chair, lie /01011:d beg to with:thaw the petition, hoping
to hare the opportunity of pie,,cuting a petition not
olfentling in form.
Air. DENMAN, adverting to the rejection of Mr. Da-
visoo's petition, said, he belie ed it to be wholly unpre-
cedented to reject a petition without even hearing it read,
supposing the ease to be one that could not be taken
notice of ray the house. He defied the lion. utembei's (Ali.
Wynn) lescarch to puoduce an iie.tante contrary to what
he had assettee.

Lord CASTLEREAGH had objected to the petition
reeause it complaint d of %%hat did not come fairly under
tile cognizance of the hott.e. It complained M a legal
decision of the court. the petitioner complained of
any particular law,the case would he different: the house
could woke corrupt judges, or an imperfect lan.
Mr. IIk:NNIAN exp Lined. The noble lord had not
only rejected the petition without hearing it read, but on
a statement that be had not heard.
Petition withdrawn.

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Mr. GOOCII then, pursuant to notice, rose to move for
the appointment of a CUllitilitlVC ikrtilillire into the causes
of the. present distressed state of the agriculturists. The
hon. gentleman Introduced his motion by some argumenb
in support of it, and was followed by Mr. Wodebuttse,
who argued in favour of the agriculturists.
Mr. KENNET objected to going into a committee, if it
was with a view to wise the !nice of slain, tinder the int-
preesion that the low price of grain was the cause of the
present distress. The real came was the extravagant
expentlitme. If the landlords could have obtained pay-
ment of their rents, this milieu would never have been
heard of. . . . _ _

Mr. WESTERN defended the agriculturists, and con-
tended, that unless something was done for them, they
must eventually be ruined.
Mr. T. BROWNE thought the great evil of the system
was, that sufficient" protection uus stka giver' to our agri-
culmrists. . . .

air. BARHAM urged the necessity of encouraging the
farmer, least he should cease to grow corn, and the coun-
try he reduced to n dependance on foreigners.
Air. T. WILSON thought u moderate increase in the
price of grain would peove advuntageous to the COltllliy.
The motion for a committee WilA then agreed to, and a
committee, consisting of moat of the members fur coun-

ties, kc. was paint
The ethyl 'mkt, were disposed of, and the house ad-
journed at one o'clock.
TrruitsDAY, MARCH S.

The SPEAKER came to the tune to-day At ten mi-
nutes before 1011 r. The right bun. ge nit:luau in comiting
the numbers as usanal, at:clmed 34. As the cluck ap-
pruaclsed to the *Mammal four he gut into the chair and
accounted them. There were only S.i plesent. in ca,use-
tiu,:nce of which tie declared the house adjoutued.

FRIDAY, MARCH 9.
Leave was given to bring in a hill to enable the Belfast
Buildings' Commercial Company to sue and be sued in
the nante of their secretary.—Brought in, and read a tit st
time. . .

.......
The Southwark gas-light bill was read a second time.
The Kingston upon-Hull gas-light bill was read a se-
cond time.
Antitnephitie bill was brought in, and read a first
limo.

The Mile•end and Whitechapel.ioads' gas-light bill was
brought in, and read a tiiai time.
iir. 111 NO brought in a bill for establishing an addl.
tional company to light 1110 metropolis and the eiiiirous
Stith gas —Read a first time.
The Chichester lighting and paving bill was brought in,
and read a tirst time.

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'DIV Bristol gar-light bill was read a third time, 4tatl
pagseil.
BRUACIII Or Pill, ILEGE.••••••Mr. S. WORTLEY cow.-

p I iillltdut a b rea e; of pt tvileguin the Manning Chronicle
on the 2eth of February, purporting to be an account of
the miliOrily against the receipt of Mr. Davismi s petition,
awl "in favour of Lord Castiereagles admonition to the
people of England not to trouble and take up the time of
theCeminens with peiitionii." This watt a gross huei—a
false libel ; there had been no such propositiou--there
had been nu vote of the kind. It was Mioriant, if the
pi uceedings of the lw.ise were noticed, that they should
be dune correct{} ; and tinder all the eirettu.stiances, lie
called on the to vindicates its oi,;iiity. flit moved,
that Mr. J. Lambert, the printer, du attend the bar Oh
Monday neat.
Mr. (I.ItLNNET observed, that when the hon. member

last noticed any publication to the house, he gut at
other member to make it the matter of complaint (Mr.
Hobbouse's pamphlet): and it was now matter of exulta-
tion, that he had plucked up courage enough to submit
his own cuinpluinte nuw himself. As to the statement, he
(Mr. B.) belies cd it to be enbetantiaily true; and he was
glad that some proceedings livid b. en exposed. Why
were persons hurt at the exposure? were they ashamed
of what hail passed I 'AC.B they ashamed et its. being
known who had actually voted against the petition even
being read? As to the subject now so Injudiciously
brought forward, lie knew out how to meet it ; he should
therefore move, as an amendment, that the house do ad-
join:v.
Sir IR, WILSON whetted to the publication of the
Letigholm addles* to the King, which appealed In we
Gazette, and the way in which it had been treated by
the house; and be therefore thought that members oppo-
site could Low afford to he indulgent. He submitted
whether it would not be advisable to withdraw tlio too
lion, Jesting satisfied %ilk the CAT:.1•441441 that nail taken
plate. (Hear.)
Mr. CREEVEY spoke to a similar effect. He had
I understood the noble lord in the way described by the
I paper, hut the printer had bt:en isicli.sfictt 50 heading
the article. _ . .

sir J. NEWIINVIC rematketl ibut he had eittlersthod
the noble turd to ItCOIIIIIICII4I :tit to the pcuple
u. I:hglAnd ; he did mot t t it tA:o. —at
wits totemurdr qualitit ti; List thc recutoho hduttou tit' tot
atiusuoition certathly v•t•iipostt trent the hulhe hod. As to
the Ptratiyier,'s &Marcie, that tuutoiusti it 141 wute4lll-
- libel.

67

Sir M. W. RIDLEY considering that his case was env
to which indulgence might be extended, he hoped the
boil. member would acquiesce in what appeared to bu
gene' wish —to withdraw the 'notion.
Mr. HOS/OLSSON was disposed to admit that these
was much force in the recommendation to withdraw the
motioli ; but he could not but strougly condemn—not the
pidilicatiou of lists—but a publication of lists accompa-
nied with a statement attributing imploper motives. Such
couise was not permitted e milli the !lunge; and why was
it to be endured in proceedissg. out of the house. if this
were to be suffered, they should hereafter see all lists
headed with-statements etlributing motives.
Mr. S. WORTLEY observed, that lie had been taunted
with having at last plucked up coinage to make cum•
plaints. The lien. member (Mr. B.) would be good
enough to leant that be had courage to do his duty bete
and t rsewhere. _

Lord CASTLER.L.ViII said, flint the libel had been
pointed out to him—a libel that was at once gross and nh-
surd ; but us he was daily the victim of so in my hinds, he
had been negli:.;cnt in his public duty in not noticing this
libel, the object of amuck was to mislead the ignorant mind
()Elbe (mainly. As to tile heading to lii lat, a %via. a
eue-
chieums misreprc:entaiimi. lie had um Li e
people not to petition the house ; hut lie had ventmed 1m
admonish the ;motile nut to weaken the ri, ht of petition
by ai'dressiog the house on suhjccts regaiding which they
they could Lillurd no relief. He had dune so then ;as friendly
to the right of petition lie would du su again ; hut such
misrepresentations its headings, were highly culpable.
Mr. C. 11. HUTCHINSON h id conceived the uohle lord

was for reading a lecture to the people against petitioning—
a practice of which it Teemed he tioiugiit tlic people a ere
becoming too fund.

Mr. NION CI( thought the heading little more than a pu-
filicul 1•CCrtillIlly it affected the noble load only—the
house were absolved from tie stigma. It tl.d nut say against
Lord CaSliereligh'S UlOllOll, hut against his administratiou ;
the ttatemeett was therefore correct 11.1 fact.

Mr. HOBHOUSL thought the paragraph was a political
squib. If they pro ceded with the !notion, theyt might
know where they began, hut fcsv of thir in could tell where
the practice should end. He and others were daily held up
us persons desirous of overturning the constitution p if the
prevent paragraph were to he noticed, ou4ht such paragraphs
to Ins neglected. As to the :Lover, a Ito was now so anxious
to vindicate the liou4e, and Ihe ministers, he had once voted
them to be incapable, but possibly uew lights had Lowden is
upon hitu.
S WORTLEY a k d whether the withdrawing of
the amendment was to he di-tined a villicil ad an,sion tit the
libellous character of the pat agrapli, (No, co.)
Mr. DENMAN hoped both the inotians would be with.
drab n t hut they How son one of the pi aetieal results of re-
fusing even to dear petnions read. That refusal wasein
obedietice to the aWI and Slut ment of the noble lord, which
oppesitaion was fouinied uu a statement that the noble lord
bud not beard.

Fur the adjournment 34
Agoiast it lk,
Majority It 1
Aflr. BENNETT thou proceeded to speak on the original
mutton, mina he hoped %%iiiiild be withdrawn.
After some further remarks from Mr. Lambton, &c. Mr.
S. Wortley withdrew the motion, that Lambert do attend
the bar on Monday. . . _

Mr. Aidermau iVOOD presented a petition from a craw
debtor contined iu Itchester jail, and alai,. he had In en co.,
fined for 1.: tears. Ile pia) cd that the house would lutes.
fere and aiford him relief.

The petition rolled forth a good deal of ounversation as
to the state of the prison, etc. The petition was received,
am, ordered to he pointed.
Lord PAL 1i EitsroN moved, that th• house rcsolvo
itself into a co volitive of bilppl), aad that the army esti-
mates be referred to the some.

Air. CREE VIA" opposed the oration, that the Spenker
do leave the chilli, rupeating, th .apply and of
rietuures should go hand in hand, lie 'sold re,i,t uli grants
or money till he beheld iiiini.ters puriring a very ditlerent
system, Ile (Mr. Creevey ) concluded by moving a resolu-
tion, iiledAing the government to econorny, and to the bop-
prezaiuo alai! us,le:,s places and experidnure.
Upon this nintbin a itivisibn took place, o hen the num.
bery sere, for the 'amino 3U riguiubt it 112 j M(jority
ogniisit it 134.
Lord PALMERSTON then wowed. that the Speaker
should leave the chair, and the how go into a Couunitteu
opus, eraimates.
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Mr. HUME opposed the Speaker leaving the Chair, 81111
proceeded to take a deluded review of the expenattuts
of the army, and concluded by mining a rewiluttutt, th.tt
the army in was only .1,0t.11.15n0w it was upward► of
80.000.
After a few word; from Sir H. Wiliam, the resolution was
negatived without a diviaium
Mr. M. A. TAY LOIL oppo:ed the house going into a
committee on this important subject at to late an hour, and
declared, if the motion fur the Speaker leaviug the Chair
was pet simert in, he would move an adjoartimem.
After a few words from Mr. Tierney, Lord Castlereagh,
Culuttel M.tes,aud others, the cootuotteu wits postpoued
till Mmalev.
Tne tither Orders were disposed of. and the House ad.
juussied at half-past twelve.

JEWS' HOSNTAL—The anniversary of thisc ha.
rity, in Mile-end-road, instituted far the support of
aged men and women, and the education and cm:
ployment of children of both sexes of German Jews,
was celebrated at the City of London Tavern, Bi-
shopsgutc-street, his Royal Highness the Duke of
Sussex, ratriei to the institution, in the chair. The
company exceetled four hundred persons, amongst
whom were many of the first eminence, both of the
Christian and Jewish persuasion. Atier the usual
toasts were given, the children were paraded round
the room, accompanied by the stewards, with speci-
mens of their several trades, and an Ode, written liar
the occasion, was recited by one of the younger
girls. Several loyal and patriotic toats were giveu,
and many excellent songs sung by the profissional
gentlemen. • A band of excellent music was sta-
tioned in the music gallery, which much contributed
to increase the pleasures of the evening. The col-
lection after dinner, we are happy LO bay, was very
ousiderable.