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London, England, 1855-08-03 00:00:00

THE SUN, I ONDON FRIDAY EVENING, AUGUST 3, 1855

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS--(YESTERDAY.)

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool-
sack at five o'clock.

_ .
The Earl of HARRINGTON presented a great many
petitions in favour of a better observance of the Lord's
Day.
On the motion of Lord REDESDALE, Lord Cler-
mont's Estate Bill was read a third time and passed.
CHINESE PASSENGER SHIP BILL.
This bill was reported with amendments.
HUDDERSFIELD BURIAL GROUND BILL.
This bill, on the motio❑ of Lord REDESDALE, was
read a third time and passed. _ _

DISSENTERS MARRIAGES BILL.
This bill was reported with amendments.
LUNATIC ASYLUMS REGULATION BILL.
On the motion of the Earl of HARROWBY, this bill
was also reported with amendments.
THE SUNDAY BEER BILL.
This bill, on the motion of Lord REDESDALE, was
read a first time.
PUBLIC OFFICES EXTENSION BILL.
Earl GRANVILLE moved the second reading of this

bill.
Lord REDESDALE regretted that the Government
had not secured the ground in the neighbourhood of the
site for the new Government offices, now occupied by a
lot of buildings of the poorest description, by giving the
usual notices. He felt confident that at some future
time the ground would be required, and he there-
fore trusted the Government would think it de-
sirable to secure the ground before it greatly
increased in value, as it would when the new offices
were erected. The noble lord then drew their lord,liips'
attention to an offer that had been made some time ago
to erect the public offices. The offer he referred tl was
that the parties should tike the ground, clear it, and
erect the offices, and that they should receive a yearly
sum to be agreed upon by Parliament. He thought the
subject not undeserving the attention of her Majesty's
Government.

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the house was
greatly indebted to the noble lord for the trouble he had
taken on this subject. He oped the members of the House
of Commons would, during the recess, take into their
consideration the effects of an ill-judged expenditure.
After a few words from Earl GRANVILLE and the Earl
Oe HARDWICKE,
The bill was read a second time.
EXCISE DUTIES BILL.
This bill way read a sec..nd time.
COURT OF JUDICATURE BILL.

both with respect to the provisioning of the army and its
cattle, and he could not but raise his voice as an English-
man against the course that had been adopted. Ail that
he had seen only convinced him of the unfortunate man-
ner in which the Government had proceeded in the war,
and he felt bound to confess that it gave little credit to
their foresight. (Hear.) He could not see why the
estimate should not have been brought forward in Fe-
bruary, and he blamed the Government for not adopt-
ing that course.
Mr. W. -WILLIAMS was anxious to provide for the
comfort of the army, but he was afraid that the adoption
of this vote would not carry so laudable an object into
effect. He thought that some explanation ought to be
given of the fact that the pay of the soldier had been
raised 50 per cent.
After some observations from Sir F. BARING and Col.
WORTH, _ _

Th'4 Lill was reported with amendments.
TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE (IRELAND)

BILL.
Th's I ill passed through committee.
OFFICE OF SPEAKER BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
BILLS OF LADING (No. 2) BILL.

This bill was read a third time and passed.
TURN-PIKE TRUSTS ARRANGEMENT BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
SALE OF SPIRITS (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill was also read a third tine and passed.
The Earl of HARRINGTON withdrew his question
relative to the salaries of the county court jodges,
MILITIA. BALLOT SUSPENSION BILL.
This bill was read a first time.
TURKISH LOAN BILL.
This bill was read a first time.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS-(YESTERDAY.)

The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock.

The Lords' Amendments to the Dundalk Harbour
and Port Bill, and the Glasgow', Dumbarton, and
Helensburgh Railway Eill, were considered and azreel

SUPPLY.

Mr. P. PEEL affirmed that no green coffee was now
issued to the troops.
Mr. WILSON said that whilst the destination of the
army was unknown the coffee was sent out in a green
state, but immediately it was understood its destination
was the Crimea, it was exported in a roasted state.
Colonel DUNNE said that the house ought to be
assured that the army was in an efficient condition to
endure another winter campaign. He thought the land
transport corps was not adequate to the wants of such
a number of troops. As to the provisioning of the army
it had been remarked that this was rather a late period
of the year to form depots for provisions. He contended
that such was not the case. He also observed that the
Government were making the Turkish Contingent and
the Foreign Legions as perfect as was possible ; al-
though, at the same time, they overlooked the defects
which existed in connection with the cavalry and other
regiments of the line. He wished to know whether the
injuries occasioned by the recent flood in the Crimea to
the Balaklava Railway had been repaired or not ?

On the order of the day for the house going int ) com-
mittee of supply,
Major REED gave notice that he should bring for-
ward the motion which stood in his name, relay ve to
calling Parliament together previous to ratifying any
terms of peace, at the evening sitting.
THE WOUNDED IN THE CRIMEA.

Mr. STAFFORD called attention -0 a letter which
had appeared in the Times newspaper denying the state-
ments made by him as to the wretched condition of the
wounded after the af'a'r of the 18th of June before Se-
bastopol. He did not ask for any answer on the part of
the Government, but he trusted their attention would
be bestowed on the subject of the sufferings (t our
wounded, which he described as very painful.
GOOD SERVICE PENSION TO LORD GEORGE
PAGET.

After some further conversation,
Mr. STAFFORD said there were many questions in
connection with the commissariat department of which
the house ought to have some exp'auation, not the least
of which was the question as to who was the real htacl
of that department. He would not, however, detain the
committee at that late period of the day.
The vote was then agreed to, and, it being 10 minutes
to four o'clock, the committee was adjourned.
MILITIA BALLOTS SUSPENSION BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
SALE OF BEER BILL.

Mr. DILLWYN called attention to a report that
Lord George Paget has received a good service pension
of 1001. a year, with the view of inquiring intu the
truth of such report, and of ascertaining, if true. what
the special services have been for which such p.msion
has been awarded. (Hear, hear.) He did not doubt
the gallantry and merit of Lord George Paget, l‘tit be
believed he had not seen much active service. It was
true he was engaged in the brilliant affair of Balal lava,
and no doubt had well and gallantly discharged his duty
there ; but he (Mr. Dillwyn) believed he had not
seen active service since ; that he spent last winter in
this country, and was now, as he understood, at Con-
stantinople. He knew nothing personal of Lord George
Paget, and therefore wished to say nothing of him, but
he thought it was due to the house and to the army,
that the house should know that pensions of this de•
scription were not awarded on account of birth or
patronage, but really on account of good service in ac-
tion.

Mr. PEEL said it was quite correct that Lord Gen.
Paget had been made the recipient of a good service
pension by Lord Hardinge, who was alone responsible
for such pensions. He was a good deal surprised at the
animadversions which this pension had given rise to,
for the hon. gentleman ought to be aware the house
could not properly distinguish the merits of individual
officers. The reason why Lord George Paget got this
pension was, that at the battle of Balaklava, where there
were ten cavalry regiments engaged, Lord George
Paget was the senior regimental colonel present, and led
his regiment and rallied them with the utmost gallantry
and therefore he was judged a fit and proper recipient
for a good service pension.
Colonel LINDSAY said no man could deny that
those gallant officers who bad done their duty in the
Crimea deserved every reward that a grateful country
could bestow. At the same time, he thought the coun-
try had not been sufficiently grateful in rewarding the
distinguished services of those officers who had served
in the Peninsular war, and he hoped the attention of
the military authorities would he directed to the subject.
After a few words from Sir W. GALWAY,
Lord PALMERSTON put it to the house whether
this was a time to discuss such a question as this.
These rewards were intrusted to the discretion of the
Commander-in-Chief by virtue of his office ; and he
asked was it possible that the members of this house
could determine whether any particular officer was or
was not deserving of those rewards, and he believed such
discussions would have a most prejudicial effect on the
public service. (Hear, hear.)
Captain SCOBELL said as this matter had been
alluded to and commented on in the public papers, it
was better that the explanation now given should have
been given in this house.

Major REED belieVed the hon. gentleman the Under
Secretary at War (Mr. Peel) was incorrect in sayiN; that
Lord George Paget was the senior colonel present at
Balaklava,.

Mr. PEEL said he had said the senior regimental
colonel.

This bill was also read a third time, and, after a pro-
test from Mr. Hadfield, to the effect that the evidence
taken before the committee was ex parte, was passed.
The house then adjourned until six o'clock.

The house resumed at six o'clock.
ADULTERATION OF FOOD.
Mr. PELLATT asked the member for Birmingham
whether an opportunity would be given before the pro-
rogation of Parliament for scienti fib witnesses to be
heard by the Adulteration of Food, &c. Committee, so
that both sides of the question might be before the
public prior to the c;o4e of the session.
Mr. SCEIOLEFIELD said that if the committee was
appointed next session, and he was at the head of it,
every opportunity would be given to elicit the truth, as
had been given by the present commitee.
On the motion of Mr. HORSFALL, the following re-
turns were ordered:—Contract mail service (west coast of
Africa), returns for each month in the year ISs4—of the
dates (in accordance with the published "Post-office
Packet List ") on which the monthly mails should be made
up iu London. Of the dates epon which such mails were
made up in London. Of the dates on which such mails should
have been despatched from Plymouth. Of the dates upon
which such mails were despatched from Plymouth. Of the
date upon which the arrival of each mail from the west
coast of Africa was considered to be due at Plymouth. Of
the date when each mail arrived at Plymouth. And the
names, tonnage, and power of euginee of each vessel in
each month employed in this service for the same period.
ORDNANCE EXPERIMENTS.
Mr. ROEBUCK begged to ask the Clerk of the Ordnance
if it was true that some experimews were tried at Shoe-
buryness last week, under the superintendence of the colo-
nel in command of the Royal Artillery, with the following
important results :—That with only about half charges of
powder, and from a common gun, with atrifliug alteration,
the experimental shells acquired, at similar eeevatione, up-
wards of 1,000 yards more effective range than the solid
shot of the service with a full charge, and that the average
deflection of the experimental shell fired was only four-
teen yards in this increased distance, while that of the ser-
vice shot, at the smaller range, was forty-seven yards.
Further, is it tree that this invention has been nine months
before the Goverument ; that at first it was reported to be
of no importance ; that, on its being pressed on the notice
of the Duke of Newcastle, it was referred to the select
committee at Woolwich in January last, and experimen-
tally proved successful in March ; and that no assistance
has been afforded to the inventor of maturing his inven-
tion beyond merely authorising a few experiments to be
made at his expense. Further, is there any obstacle to
the adoption and use of this great improvement in the
effectiveness of our artillery ?
Mr. FRENCH begged also to ask whether any report
had yet been received from the commission appointed by
the late Lord Raglan to inquire as to Captain Disney's
projectile?
Mr. MONSELL could inform the hon. and learned
member for Sheffield, that the experiments made last
week at Shoeburyness were in all respects cenforamble to
the statement contained in his question, except with re-
gard to the shells having been tired from a common gun
slightly altered. The fact was, that they were fired from
a rifled gun; and the service ammunition from a smooth-
bored gun. It was true that this invention had been nine
months before the Government, having been submitted iu
the first instance to General Slater, who, from the constant
failure of shells made of mixed metal, did not think it
worth while at that time to place it before the select com-
mittee. In January last it had been brought before the
committee by order of the Duke of Newcastle, and experi-
ments were made in March, in which there was an infe-
riority of Mr. Britten's projectile to the service ammuni-
tion. Further experiments were made in May, with a
similar result. He believed the pattern now submitted by
Mr. Britten was in some degree different from the former,
and was considered to have been improved. He was
happy to say that the attention of the Director-General
of Artillery was now turned to this important invention,
and if, on further consideration, it should be deemed satis-
factory, he would recommend it for adoption to the gene-
ral-comtnanding,ein-chief. With regard to the question
put to him by the hon. member for Roscommon, no report
had yet been received in this country from the camp before
Sebastopol relative to Captain Disney's projectile, but on
the 15th July experiments were made with it.
COMMANDERS IN THE NAVY—LAUNCH OF THE
MARLBOROUGH.
Admiral WALCOTT asked the First Lord of the Ad-
miralty whether any, and if any what, decision had been
come to in reference to the contents of a memorial pre-
sented to the Board of Admiralty in or about the month of
May last by the commanders of the royal navy, praying
that advantages in regard to retirement, with increased
rank and pay, might be granted to them ? He hoped, also,
that the right hon. baronet would be able to give the as-
surance that the magnificent first-rate ship the Marl-
borough had not been in any way strained or injured by
the accident that had happened to it at the launch.
Sir C. WOOD had to say, in reference to the gallant
admiral's first question, that no decision had yet been
come to upon the memorial presented from the commanders
of the royal navy. That memorial must be considered in
connection with others that had been presented from officers
of different grades, and it was impossible to give them due
consideration during the session of Parliament, the sub-
ject being of a very complex nature. With regard to the
sedond question, he was happy to say, that, at high water,
on the night before last, at two a.m., the Marlborough
floated without having received the slightest injury what-
ever.

Sir F. BARING expressed his opinion that (,hose
pensions ought to be given to the oldest officers. (Hear.)
Mr. WILLIAMS protested against the doctrine I
down by the noble lord at the head of the Government,al
that the House of Commons had no right to car vas;
those questions. (Hear, hear.)
Lord PALMERSTON said he had not stated that—
he had only said it was not a fit question for discussion.
Mr. A. PELLATT thought the present was a case of
great hardship, and if it was consistent T.vith"the rules of
the house he would move an address to her Majesty,
that pen who had so much right to receive a reward
from their country had been overlooked, and entree sing
her Majesty to take their case into her serious consi-
deration. He thought that the course pursued by the
Government in the present instance was without a pa.-
rallel. -
Colonel DUNNE thought that the present system of
promotion in the army was very defective, and ought to
he amended. As it at present existed men that were
made corporals would receive less than the common
soldier.
The subject then dropped, and the house resolved
itself into a committee of
SUTPLY.
On the question that a sum cf 3,711/. should be
granted for the Statute Law Commission, some short
liscussion took place, and the vote was ultimately
agreed to.

ENLISTMENT OF THE FOREIGN LEGION.
Mr. M. GIBSON put a question to the Government re-
specting the mode of raising the foreign legion. It was
stated that vessels of war were placed in the Elbe and the
Weser to receive recruits, which gave great offence to the
Hance Towns. He thought it was important that.in rais-
ing recruits we should not violate the municipal laws of
foreign states.
Lord PALMERSTON denied that the Government vio-
lated any law of foreign states in their mode of foreign
enlistment. A depot was established at Heligoland, where
foreigners were free to enlist. A similar course was pur-
sued with regard to the United States, whore a depot was
opened'at Halifax, in Nova Scotia, for the purpose of re-
ceiving persons who wished to enlist; but as that appeared
likely to give offence to the authorities in the United
States, it was given up.
Mr. M. GIBSON said the noble lord had taken no notice
of the men•of-war in the Elbe and the Weser.
Lord PALMERSTON said that was no violation of
the law of foreign states. The ships lay there, and
were ready to give a passage to any one who wished
to proceed, for whatever purpose, to Heligoland.
SUPPLY—MILITARY ADMINISTRATION.
A sum of 109,2001. was voted for the expense of the dis-
. embodied militia to the 31st of March, 1856.
A sum of 70,716/. was proposed for the expense of the
establishment of the Ordnance-office.
Mr. MONSELL rose to propose the vote for the Ord-
nance establishment and to explain the changes that had
t
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stateno w
taken place in the Ordnance-office. After dwelling upon
the evils of separate and divided control, under which he
responsible
. then sifiblre first
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to who
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changes wase
esp
which was that the discipline of the Artillery
was placed
under the direct control of the Com • mander-in,Chief. The
effect of that was, that the road to the highest military
offices was opened to the Artillery, which had hitherto
been closed t.) them in this country, but which the
bril-
liant career of many French Artillery °Mem, from Na-
poleon to General Besquet,showed they were so well i( na-
lified to fill. With regard to the offices placed under the
Secretary of State, he explained that in every subordinate
department which was concerned with military matters a
military man was placed at the head of it, and civilians
were only placed at the head of the civil departments. To
the inspector of fortifications had been added the duties of
barrack-master general. There were to be a director-
general of Artillery for the army, and a director for the
navy—both would be placed upon the scientific committee,
and would have a voice in all changes in, the arms of both
services. Then there was a director-general of contracts,
and another of stores. Each of these heads of departments
would report from de • y to day to the Secretary of State.
The manufacturing department had undergone little or
no change, The great principle in all these changes was
to combine central control with individual responsi-
bility. The change had been too recent to e
show, its
benacel
advantages ; but he had great confidence in th
character of its effects. He concluded by propoeing e
the

THE WAR.
On the vote of 3,000,0001. for the additional expense
of the war with Russia being put,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that this sum had been allowed for in the additional
estimates that had been brought forward, and it .nly
required that the sanction of the house should be given
in iir'.er to enable the Tr:Asury to meet the demands
that Might be made upon it. It did not follow, in
granting the vote, that the amount would be requited.
After some short discussion, 1
The vote was agreed to.
Mr. PEEL then rose, pursuant to notice, to move a !
supplementary commissariat estimate for the service in 1
the Crimea. The house had already granted to the
Government for this cepartment a sum of 1,440,0001.,
and a further sum of 2,260,000/. was required to
carry it out effectually. The right hon. gentle-
man at some length entered into the details 1
of the course that had been adopted by the Government ;
in buying cattle and
the army, in the course ;ding for the rovi i ' vote.
prov.— _ p 8 oning of i 34
of 'which 1?e stated thatltz
i takern
depots had been formed in the Crimea, by which toe rSiTacAeFinFOgßivDinn.comopelsaeineeidpoifanthateiolonnz tlayhathdatbheaend
postponed till a periocd of the session when it was impos-
greatest comfortS bad been afforded to our army 1
and by which they were insured for four days a week ; any opinion on its merits. Under these circumstances, he
bible for this house to examine the plan or to pronounce
fresh meat. Equal attention bad been paid to the horses, must throw the whole responsibility of the changes upon
and a full amount of food had been secured to them. ; the Executive, and ho could assure his hon. friend that no
The right ben, gentleman, after e--s of the
payinci an enlogium one Was more anxious than he was for the slice _
upon M. Soyer for the effective service he had rendered 1 new_iplan.
is schooling the troops in the art of cooking in the call), !
in 1,-.,T,V. AILT complained that sufficient 11RO was not
c )I,,:lnded by mi,vin thQ 'N'otei. - : t_ rt- t: . s•iflititi,.l resources ~f ',liii COIIO ry as existing
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pu.rued by the GOveriauent, and expressed his surpri:e naval armament
-tsli6eql."'biei- P.'l'.ag:add ti'a'ta h4-'li.7l2.e7;cit'io'ntli. '.:OU)
that' at-the last moment the Governmecit should cone was indicated in the new scheme,
down and talk about depots being male that ought to Captain L. VERNON commented with some severity
have been erected months ago. He thought the greatest upon the new appointments made in the subordinate de-
neglect bad taken place on the part of the Government, psrtmenta of the Oichianco-office, which ho contended

were no improvement on the men whom they had super-
seded.
Colonel DUNNE also criticised unfavourably the new
arrangements, especially the thrusting of civilians into so

manydepartMenis.
ILLIAMS lamented that the new changes had
not resulted in greater economy.
Mr. MONSELL replied, defending the new system and
the appointments made under it.
After some further conversation the vote was agreed to,
as were the supplementary estimates.
On the vote of 15,0001. for a building to exhibit scientific
models, Ize., at Kensington Gore,
Mr. SPOONER opposed the vote, as he was quite cer-
tain that this was but the beginning of an expenditure
which no one at present contemplated.
Mr. GLADSTONE defended the vote on the ground
that there were various collections of scientific models
and objects of art which there were no means of exhibiting
to advantage. The land belonged to the Government; the
building, when erected, would be complete in itself, and
would require no further additions ; for it must not be
forgotten that this was no part of the plan of permanent
buildings with which it was proposed some time ago to
cover Kensington Gore.
Mr. DISRAELI also supported the vote, and said that
various interesting collections had been withheld from the
country simply on the ground that there was no place ade-
quately to exhibit them.
Mr. BRIGHT opposed the vote, which he was sure
would only prove to be the forerunner of a similar vote
for the next fifty years.
Mr. FOX could only hope that Mr. Bright's prediction
would prove true, and that the increase of collections would
necessitate the annual expenditure of a sum like this. At
the same time he was satisfied that this vote would not

involve us in additional expenditure.
Alter some further conversation the committee divided,
when the vote was agreed to by a majority of 85 to 33.

The house then resumed. -
CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL.

he Chancellor of the Exchequer, but wished he had at first
made his loan 20 millions, instead of 16 millions.
After some further conversation, the resolutions were
agreed to, and the house resumed.
LIMITED LIABILITY.
On the motion for the third reading of the Limited Lia-
bility Bill,
Mr. ARCHIBALD HASTIE expressed his opinion that ,
this was the worst bill which had been introduced into the
house for the last half century. He admitted the sound-
ness of the principle of limited liability as applicable to
canals, docks, railways, &c., but not to ordinary inercan-
tile associations. Under this bill the capitalists would
monopolise all the trade in the country by starting in every
town bakers' and butchers' shops, and underselling the
ordinary tradesmen. He must enter his protest against
the bill.
Mr. HANKEY congratulated Mr. Bouverie on having
successfully carried this important bill through the house,
and not the less for the improvements made in it during
its progress.
After a few words from Dr. MICHELL,
Mr. CARDWELL hoped Mr. Hastie would not divide
the house. He wished he could believe that this bill was
a valuable contribution to the commercial law of this
country. His opinion was very much the reverse, and
that it would facilitate corporate companies that had no
assets and no legal liabilities, and of which the best that
could be said of them was, that it was desirable they
should obtain no credit. The bill ought to have been
accompanied by a general revision of the law of joint-stock
companies. Ho regretted the late period of the session at
which it was introduced, which afforded no opportunity
for discussion, and he feared the measure would become
the mere vehicle and instrument of fraud.
Mr. C. GLYN also expressed his disapprobation of the
bill, and of the changes that had been made in it.
Mr. MASTERMAN opposed the bill. He hoped. if it
were to pass into a law at all, it would receive important
amendments in the House of Lords.
Mr. BOUVERIE expressed his astonishment at the
course taken by Mr. Cardwell, who he had always under-
stood to be favourable to the principle. He denied that
there was no security against fraud in the bill. He thanked
the house for the generous support he had received from
all sides of the house, and with their aid he hoped it
would be sent to the other house in such a manner as
would insure its passing into law.
Mr. MALINS condemned the inconsistency of Mr. Card-
well, who had himself prepared a bill for limited liability,
and now came forward to oppose the principle of that
measure. This was of a piece with his conduct in support-
ing the war while in office, and becoming an advocate of
peace so soon as he left office.
The bill was then read a third time and passed.
On the motion for the second reading of the Crime and
Outrage (Ireland) Continuance Bill,
Mr. KENNEDY opposed it, and moved that it be read
a second time that day three months.
After some discussion, the house divided, when the bill
was read a second time by a majority of 42 to 10.
The Ordnance Board Bill was read a second time.
The Dwellings for Labouring Classes Bill went through
committee.
The other orders of the day were disposed of, and the
house adjourned.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he trusted the house
would allow this bill to be read a second time, and consent
to take the debate on its principle on the motion for going
into committee.
Mr. KNIGHT objected to many parts of the bill, which
at the present period of the session could not be fairly dis-
cussed. The better course would be to refer it to a select
committee.
Sir G. GREY said that every portion of the bill might
be fully discussed on the next stage.
Mr. DISRAELI did not think that a bill of so much
im-
portance ought to pass its second and most important stage
without discussion.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said the bill was nothing
more than a supplemental bill to one the working of which
had been most beneficial.
Mr. MALINS concurred in the objection of the right
hon. member for Buckinghamshire, but recommended the
house to read the bill a second time.
Mr. MASTERMAN trusted the bill would not be pressed
further during the present session.
Lord PALMERSTON expressed a hope that the house
would consent to the second reading of the bill, reserving
the discussion on its merits to the next stage, when there
would be ample time for its full and mature consideration.
Sir W. JO LLIFFE said. if the house legislated at all,
it ought to legislate satisfactorily, but it was impis•ible to
do so at this late period of the session. He thought it
would be much better to postpone the further considera-
tion of the measure until next session.
The bill was thin read a second time, and was ordered
to be committed on Monday, at six o'clock.
WAYS AND MEANS.

The order of the day was then read for the house going
into coratnittee'of ways and means.
On the question that the Speaker leave the chair,
Major REED moved a resolution that no treaty or con-
dition of peace which might be concluded during the re-
cess ought to be concluded without having Parliament pre-
viously called together.
Lord PALMERSTON reminded the hon. member that
the power of conclnling treaties of peace or war was a
prerogative of the Crown. He quite concuirred in the
principle involved in the resolution, that no peace ought
to be concluded which was injurious to the interests or
honour of the country. Ho could not be fettered in his
(Thcretion as a Minister, but if he felt it his duty at any
time to advise her Majesty to call Parliament together, it
would be not only his duty but his supreme pleasure to
do so.
After some humorous remarks from s:fr. DISRAELI,
Major REED withdrew his motion.
WAYS AND ME
BUDGE ANS
—SUPPLEMENTARY
T.

THE PARIS EXHrBIT lON AND THE

RAILWAYS.

The house having resolved itself into a committee of
ways and means, Mr. Fitzroy in the chair,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to
move a resolution authorising the issuing of Exchequer-
bills to the amount of 7,C00,0001. In his financial state-
ment, made in April last, he estimated the whole income
of the year, including the receipts from taxes, a loan of
16,000,0007., and 3,000,0001. of Exchequer-bills, at
86,337,000/. He had since abandoned the additional duty
on bankers' cheques, which he estimated would produce
200,0001., and that would reduce the amount of revenue to
86,1:39.000/. The expense was at the same time estimated
at 81,999,0001., which left a margin in excess of income
over expenditure of 4,240,0001. These estimates were
founded upon the sums which had been voted for the mili-
tary service, and upon his estimate of what would be re-
quired for the civil service. The latter item he estimated
at 6,500,0001. The sum since vote i had been 6,506,0001.
Recently there had been submitted to the house additional
estimates for the naval and military service. He would
state to the house what were the original and supplemen-
tary estimates, and what had actually been expended dur-
ing the four montbs of the financial year which had elapsed
since he made his statement in April, May, Juno, and
July. The amount of the original estimates for the army,
commissariat, and militia was 16,221,000/. ; the supple-
mental estimate was 2,568,0001. ; total, 18,789,0001. The
actual expense during the four months named had been
4,850,00''1. If tbst sum was multiplied by three it gave
an amount of 14,550,0001., which was several millions loss
than the sum estimated for these three services. (Hear.)
The original estimate for the navy transports and packet
service was 16,053,0001. The supplemental estimate was
2,725,000/, ; total, 19,379,000/. The actual expense for the
four monthshad been 7,649.0001. Multiplyingthat by throe
it gave an amount of nearly 23,000,0001., which was greater
than the sum voted. It was hoped that the expense duri rig the
remaining eight months of the year would not continue at
the rate of these four months. For the Ordnance the ori-
ginal estimate was 7,803,0001; the supplementary esti-
mate 841,0001. ; total, 8,644,0001. The actual expense for
the four months had been 2.812,000/. That, multiplied
by three, produced 8,433,0001., which nearly agreed with
the total sum voted. Under the head of vote of credit,
the estimate was 1,200,0001., and a vote had been taken
for 2,000,0001. The total result was ;—Original estimates,
43,677,0001. ; supplementary estimates, 6,135,000/. ; total,
49,812,0001. The total expense for military purposes
during the last four months had been 16,512,030/. ; that
sum, multiplied by three, gave 49,537,000/., which nearly
agreed with the sum voted—viz., 49,812,000/. It now
became his duty to state to the committee how he pre e
posed to-raise the means for the additional expense which
had been incurred since he made his statement in April.
He then stated that he proposed to take a power to issue
Exchequer-bills to the amount of 3,000,000/. He now
proposed to increase that amount to 7,000,0001., at the
same time taking the option of issuing, if it should be
deemed advisable, Exchequer-bouds instead of bills. Ac-
cordinv to his original estimate, and including 3,000,000/.
of Exchequer-bills there was an excess of income over ex-
penditnre of 4.210:0001. By the addition of 4,000,000/. of
Exchequer-bills, which he now proposed, the excess would
be increased to 8,260,0001.; while the additional estimates
to be provided for amounted to only '6,135,0001., thus
leaving an unappropriated margin of 2,105,000/. It was
always necessary that some margin should be left to meet
unexpected expenses, but in the present instance the
house would be justified in not requiring the Government
to provide any unreasonable amount for that purpose.
(Hear, hear.) We had to guide ns the experience of four
months of the year, which included the period of the
most active and expensive warlike operations. At the
same time he ought to state to the committee that at
the commencement of the year, before the first instalment
of the loan was received, it was found necessary to issue
ways and means bills to the amount of 1,700,0001., which
must be provided for out of the revenue of the year.
Therefore; although according to the calculations he had
submitted to the committee there was an apparent surplus
of 2,000,0001., nearly the whole of that might be considered
as already practically absorbed. If his proposition were
agreed to, there would therefore be nearly an exact balance
of income and expenditure. Another reason for not pro-
viding a large excess to meet contingencies was, that he
could state that the receipt of revenue during the first four
months had been, on the whole, satisfactory—(hear, hear)
—and an far as judgment could be formed, it might rea-
sonably be expected that the amount received would equal
the estimate which ho had submitted to the committee in
April last. He would now state to the house the amount
of Exchequer-bills and bonds in circulation. On the 31st
July there were outstanding Exchequer-bills to the amount
of 17,090,400/. There were also Exchequer-bonds to the
amount of 6,000,0 rOl. These bonds bore interest at 34 per
cent., and were payable, 2,' 00,000/. in 1857, 2,000 0001. in
1858, and 2,0)0,0001. in 1859 Although the amount of
the unfunded debt might seem considerable, yet, compared
with what it was at the end of the last war, and during
many years after the conclusion of peace, it was not large.
In ,1812 tho amount of Exchequer-bills in circulation was
41,000,000/. ; in 1813, 43,000,000/. ; in 1814, 45,000.1 00/. ;
in 1815, the last year of the war, it had risen to 57,000,000/.
Even in 1818 the amount of Exchequer bills in circulation
was 50,000,000/. ; in 1819 it was 43,000,0001.; and in 1539
it. was 21,000,000/. Therefore, even if it should be neces-
sary to increase the unfunded debt by the whole amount of
seven millions, which he asked the house to enap ewer him
to raise, the amount of Exchequer-bills would not reach
that which had been in circulation for many years
since the terminetion of the last war means could be
found of pacing Exchequer-bills to a considerable Amount,
without affecting the general market, and without in-
fluencing the rate of interest. Exchequer-bills were now
at a considerable premium. Even the June bills, the in-
terest upon which had been lowered at the commencement
of the present quarter, were at a considerable premium,
and the premium had increased since the interest was
lowered. Under these circumstances, he hoped that,
seeing at this late period of the session the Government had
hardly any option acme the means of raising the funds ne-
cessary for the public service, the resolution which ho had
framed would meet with the approbation of the commit-
tee, and that the power of increasing the unfunded debt
by the addition of seven millions would be granted to it.
The right hon. gentleman concluded by moving the resolu-
tion which he had placed in the hands of the chairman.
Mr. GLADSTONE did not see that they had any right
to complain of the calculations of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. Then as to the means of meeting the expendi-
ture, ho did not see they ought to object to thorn. Un-
cloo4upiylboitilenlditolyonsut,thaeitihd:oawufahseci might be startled by the rapid increase
the unfunded debt, which only two years ago stood at
tc,htwhaats
wnohwil,3tothbetraisied to 30 millions.
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the did not see that a more advisable mode of providing
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of by him.
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„ .ry to I,,gue many of
these Exeh—liter-eals befpie the t•int of the year, so that
there could be no possible breach of faith with the con-
tractors of the former loan, which, besides, related to an
increase of the funded and not of the unfunded debt.
Mr. GLYN approved generally of the course pursued by

The following correspondence has taken place between
Captain Galton, on the part of the Committee of Privy
Council for Trade and the Railway Companies in connec-
tion with France, relative to the conveyance of passengers
to the French Exhibition at reduced fares :---
Railway Department, Board of Trade,
White:lan, August 1, 1855.

Sir,—The Lords of the Committee of Privy Council for
Trade have directed me call to your attenti on to the on closed
extract from the Gazette of the 25th of May, from which it
appears that workmen in England desirous of visiting the
French Exhibition may obtain passports upon an applica-
tion being made in the manner therein pointed out, and to
transmit to you the enclosed copy of a letter from the
South-Eastern Railway Company, stating, that that com-
pany, and the Northern Railway Company of France, have
made arrangements for conveying persons furnished with
these passports, between London and Paris, at one-half of
the ordinary fare.
My lords are desirous of bringing these arrangements to
the notice of the directors of the
railway company, iu order that they may have an opportu-
nity of considering how far• it will be consistent with their
views to adopt a similar course.
I am at the same to enclose copies of communications
which their lordships have received from the London,
Brighton, and South Coast, and London and South-Wes-
' tern Railway Companies, upon this subject, stating the
fare at which passengers are conveyed by those routes.—l
am, air, your obedient servant,
DOVGLAS GALTON,
Captain, Royal Engineers.
The Secretary of the Railway Company.

Extract from the London Gazette of May 25, 1855.
"Foreign-office, May 25, 18 5.

" It is hereby notified that the -Earl of Clarendon has re-
ceived, through her Majesty's Ambassador at Paris. an
assurance from the French Government that aU British
workmen desirous of visiting the Paris Industrial Exhibi-
tion, who shall be furnished with Foreign-office passports,
in a form agreed upon, shall be allowed to land in France
and proceed on their journey to Paris without any hind-
rance whatever. In order to carry into effect this arrange-
ment, her Majesty's Government have decided upon grant-
ing passports to all such persons, without payment of the
usual stamp duty and fee, according to the following regu-
lations
" The mayors of towns, and other municipal and local
authorities (including the superintendent registrar), will,
under instructions from the Home Department, send to
the Foreign-office lists of workmen residing in their neigh-
bourhood who may wish to visit the Exhibition ; and
passports will then be prepared and transmitted to the
respective local authorities for distribution.
" Within the Metropolitan-Polies District, applications
for passports referred to in this notice are to bo delivered
at the nearest Metropolitan Police Station, arrangements
having been made for such application being forwarded
through the Chief Commissioner to the Foreign-office, and
the passports will thereafter be delivered to the applicants
at the station where the application was made.
"The several local authorities will forward applications
for those passports to the Foreign-office, with a list accord-
ing to the annexed form :

Local authority Date of
applying. application.

Name of workman to be in-
serted in the passport.

(Copy.)
SOUTH-EASTERN RAILWAY.

London Terminus, 20th July, 1855.

Sir,— Referring to your favour of date the 411; of June
last, in reference to the conveyance at reduced rates of
workmen, who may desirous of visiting the Paris Exhi-
bition, I beg to inform you that having been advised that
p eci al
to
Accordingly, adopt
they
Mr. Cole, the British Commissioner, has succeeded in ob-
taining from the Northern of France Railway the conces-
sion of tickets, at half fares, to British workmen travelling
to and from
passports,the Exhibition t
rest
fParis, c
company
p a producingny have
deter-
minedtheir
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nged to issue tickets to
work ,en holding such special passports, at half fares, on
the following conditions:-
1. The special passports to be shown to our clerks by the
workmen at the time they apply for tickets rb the reduced
rates.*
2. The reduced tickets to be available only by way of
Calais, and by the trains, leaving this terminus at 8.10
a.m. and 9.30 a.m.
We shall be prepared to commence this service on and
after the Ist August next, provided the Northern of
France (with whom we will communicate on the subject)
consent to such arrangement.—l am, sir, your obedient
servant, S. SMILES, Secretary.
(*Memorandum of arrangement received on the 31st of
Jul
They).
following are the trains by which, and the fares at
which persons holding workmen's passports, will be con-
veyed to and from Paris via the South-Eastern Railway :
Trains from London, 8.10 a.m., 9.30 a.m., 5.30 p.m.,
and night tidal train.
Trains to London. from Doverand Folkestone, 6.35 a.m.,
5.15 p.m., and night tidal train. 2d class passengers are
also conveyed by any ordinary 2d class train.

FARES :
Via Calais.

SPORTING( INTELLIGENCE.

GOODWOOD EACES.-THURSDAY.
THE CUP DAY.

The card had a comparatively meagre appearance ;
but notwithstanding the certainty of small fields, the
Cup was sufficiently attractive to draw together a large
and miscellaneous assemblage of visitors. The raised
lawn to the right of the enclosure was lined by groups
of ladies, whilst the balcony of the Grand Stand was
well filled with a gay and graceful throng.
Sweepstakes of 100 sovs each, for three-yr-olds, the
produce of mares which have never bred a winner ;
colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 21b. One mile. • Five subs.

Lord John Scott's Clotilde, by Touchstone, Bst2lb
(Templernan) 1
/gr. Howard's Cavalier, by Orlando, Bst 71b (Wells) 2
Betting-9 to, 4 on Clotilde, who won easily by a
lc:ngth.

Racing Stakes of 50 sons each, for three-yr-olds ; colts,
Bst 71b ; fillie., Bst 41b ; certain winners extra ; the
owner of the second poise to receive 100 sovs out of
the stakes. One mile. 15 subs.
Duke of Bedford's Pugnator, by Weatherbeit
Bst 71b (S. Rogers) 1
Mr. Osbaldeston's. Claret, Bst 1011 y, including 31b
extra (Flatman) 2
Mr. J. M. Stanley's Dirk Hatteraick, Bit 71b
(Bartholomew) 3

Betting-6 to 4 agst Dirk Hatteraick, 7to 4 agst
Pagnator, and sto 2 agst IClaret. Won by a length ;
same distance between the second and third.

The Sussex Stakes of 25 sovs each for two-yr-olds ;
colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 41b ; 'certain penalties and
allowances. T.Y.C. Three subs.
Duke of Bedford's Bezonian, by Bay Middleton,
Bst 41b
Mr. J. Merry's Sunshine, by Chanticleer, Bst 41b
(J. Prince) 2
Betting-7 to 4on Bezonian, who made all the run-
ning, and won by a length and a-half.

Second Year of the Fourth Beutinck Memorial Stakes
of 10 soya each, for three-yr-o►ds ; colts, Bst 71b ;
fillies, Bst 31b. Gratwicke Stakes Course. 64 subs.
Mr. J. Dawsou's Corcebus, by Slane, Bst 71b

_
(J. Prince) 1
Duke of Bedford's Pugnator, Bst 71b (8. Rogerzt) 2
Mr. 'froward's Cavalier, Bst 71b (Wells) 3
Mr. T. Parr's Benhams, Bst 71b (Flatruan) 4
Mr. J. M. Stanley's Neoptolernus, B,t 71b
.(Bartholomew) 5
Mr. Newland's Mariposa, Bst 31b, ( Day) 6
Betting-6 to 4on Corcebus, 7to 2 agst Benham, 6
to 1 a gst Pugnator. Won easily by half a length ; very
had third ; a wide interval separating each 'of the
The 3'lolecomb Stakes of 50 sovs each, h ft, for two•yr-
ohis ; colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 41b. Certain winners
extra. The tecond to receive back his stake. T.Y.C.
21 subs.
Mr. Gully's Enchanter, by Annandale, Bst 81h

' (A. Day) 1
Mr. Howard's Spindle, Bst 91b, .including slb

extra - (Wells) 2
Lord. Wilton's ch f by Birdcatcher, out of Sacri-

fice., Bst 41b
(Flatman) 3
Mr. J. M. Stanley's Omar Pachn, Bet 71b
(Bartholomew) 4
Betting-2 to 1 and 7t04 on Enchanter, 4to 1 agst
Spinille, 5 to 1 agst Sacrifice filly, 6 to 1 agst Omar
Pach.a. Won cleverly by half a length ; bad third.
The Goodwood Cup, value 300 sovs, the rest in specie by
subscription of 20 sovs each, with 100 added by the
rd.; ing fund. The second to receive 100 sovs out of
the: stakes, and the third 50. Two miles and a-half.
32 subs.

Baron Rothschild's Baroncino, by the Emperor,
3 s.rs, sst 131 b ~..(Ford ham) 1
Mr. ,Elwes's Oulstou, 3 yrs, 7st 71i (Wells) 2
Mr. Thellusson's Rataplan, 5 yrs, 9st 111 b
(J Prince) 3
Lord Clifden's Homily, 3 yrs, 6st 91b (Crouch) 4
Mr. J. Merry's Lord of the Isles, 3 yrs; 7st 71b
(Flattnan) 5
Mr. 'W. Robinson's Neville, 4 yrs, 9st llb (Aldcroft) 6
Betting-5 to 4 agst Baroncino, 6to 4 agst Onlston,
10 to 1 each agst Rataplin and Neville, 4 to 1 each agst
Lord of the Isles and Homily.