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azeept you gave him orders to do so?.—Not at all. The
Captain of the ship took orders from me. It was his
duty. The tent on the deck was within three or four feet
front the steersman during the night and day. On the
return from Julia I slept on the deck once, within five
filet of the tent. The steersman might hear what passed
in the tent generally. There was a ladder that went down
to the el' • groom from the tent. It was kept open at
night, for the tent covered the passage, but the opening
was always clear. The tub in which her Royal Highness
bathed could not go into the Princess's cabin. It was too
large. Her Royal Highness called to me in the night,
when I disturbed her repose by Inanativring the ship.
—I was obliged to open the tent when 1 did not dts•
inetly hear her Royal Highness. I never saw the slightest
impropriety nor indecency in her conduct to Berganii or
any other person: On Bergami's taking leave, he kissed
liar hand, which was done by all persons on taking leave.
I have been iu the Navy about sixteen years. I wear the
Orders of Merit and Fidelity. given to we by the King
of Naples, for taking several privateers, while in the
Neapolitan Navy. I have received the Royal permission
to wear one of them.

Cross•exa►nined by the Solicitor General.
The witness then underwent a rigid cross-examination,
in which he declared be never saw Bergami sleep in the
Princess's tent.
At ten minutes past four o'clock, Earl Grey inquired if
the eioss.exatninatiou was nearly concluded ? when the
Solicitor General said he could not say that it was.
The House then adjourned.
SEVENTH DAY OF TILE DEFENCE.
TUESDAY, OCT. It).
This morninz, at five iniuutes before ten o'clock the Lo RD
CAA %OCLi.OE took his seat on the Woolsack. Prayers wire
read by the Bishop of Bristol, and the list of Peers %$ as called
over jai the usual manner, and some excused on accouut of
isdisposition.

it v.

to call the

Mention of (heir

Len GROSVENOR rose . . 111.—
Lordships to a.sobject which he conceived of considerable
importance. Their Lordships had, iu an early stage of these
proceedings, declared that nothing in the rules ur privileges
of this House ought to prevent the prosecution of a witness
who might have committed perjury. But as, notwithstand-
ing this declaration, there appeared some doubts on the sub.
jtet, het bought it Sue to the honour and dignity of the house
that dime doubts should be removed, that no difficulties might
bo thrown la the way of prosecuting for perjury, and that,
for this purpose a short Act of Parliament should be made
as speedily as possible..
Time LORD CHANCELLOR said, that, in the present
age of the proceedings, this address of the Noble Lord was
the most extraordinary he bad ever heard iu that House.—
Wheu the Couusel for the Queen stated that he would prose-
ante one of the witnesses for perjury, he went too far. It was
not for their Lordships to contemplate cases of perjury, nor
to ofer an opinion as to the perjury of any wittier, until the
proceeding' were finished. An address to the House imputing
perjury to a witness who might hereafter be proved not to
have perjured himself, was highly improper.
Earl GROSVENOR explained. The Noble and Learned
Lord had spoken us if this was the first time the subject
badbeeospoken of in the House. This. however, was not
the ease; and as it had been acknowledged in the coin-
reencement of these proceedings, that the House should hove
power of directing prosecutions for perjury, no impediment
*eight to be thrown in the way of Inch prosecution.
. The LORD CHANCELLOR was still of opinion, that it
was highly improper any Noble Lord should impute perjury
to a particular witness before the proceedings were
easteladed.
The Earl of ESSEX thought the best way of proceeding
would be by an Act of Parlitiument to remove all ditlicalties
as proposed by his Noble Friend.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL agreed in the observation of
the Lord Chancellor.
Lord MEIN 'LIE rose and said, from some circumstances
which had occurred, wilt which he would not trouble their
Lordships, be thought it desirable that William Carrington,
see of the wallows examined in behalf of the Queen on a
former day, should he again called before their Lordships,
be order that certain further questions should be asked of a
Witness already examined before their Lordships.
The Earl of LIVERFOOL said, it was a question for
Hier Lordships to decide, whether it might be better to call
the whams now, or to trait mail the conclusion of the evi-
dence for the Queen, and then call him previous to the
summing up.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE was not aware what was
the maltreat the questions to he put to the witness; hut lie
thought it was fur the Noble Lord who had these questions
to propose. to say whether he would put them now, or at
ony future time.
The Earl of DONOUGILMOR E was of opinion that if
the questions of the Noble Lord were accessory for the
informntion of the Court. th- sooner their Lordships were io
possession of that information the better.
Lord M ELY ILI. E deemed it highly expedient that the
• heron. Carrim:toa should be examined nab as little delay
as possible; The Noble Lord then moved, that William
C.lrringloll should be called to the bar of the House and
examined. Agreed to.
Counsel were called in at twenty-five minutes before
eleven.

Lieutenant Flynn was then railed to the Bar, and under-
went a tediously I°K cross.examiwition by the Solicitor.
General and the Lords, without any inaportaut fact trans
Viring—after a hick
William earringtun now appeared at the bar, and was
examined by Lord 31E3.111.1.x.
You said to the Comisrl why examined von on Saturday
that you had been a mill.hipman prior to your being to
the service of Sir IV. Gen ?—Yes, I did, with Sir John
-Beresford.
Yon were asked if you bad been in any G tiler ship ex-
cept the Puictlers, and yon said no?;---I meant that I was
under the command of Sir J. Beresford, but I had been its
other ships.
You said you had been in the merchant service, and
then on land, and then a midshipman in the Poicliers—is
that answer comet ?-- Yes. _

Yoa were asked if yon had been en board any min r
King's ship before the rubless, anti yon said no ; k tlidt
true?-4 thought the 1011 relOic das to any other ship
-under Sir J. Itereslat ti ; pl./ veil in no other ship 'lintel
hint, butt I was on buard other situps, the .Majeslic and
anothfr.
Mil you enter vohmtarily m. not ?---I was pre snit.
Did you serve as Midshipman in the other ship,?—No,
as Quarter Master.
You said you bad been in tl a merchant's service, then
ma land, where were )ou vu lea el-1 was bred au J ban

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on the sea coast—sometimes lu boats, sometimes at sea, 1
and sometimes on land.
Lient. Ilowirms sworn.—Examined by Mr.TY arta LL.
You are a Lieutenant in his Majesty's navy 1-1 am.
How long have you bees a Lieutenant I—Since the early II '
part of the year 1609.
Where du you live at present I—At Rotten, in France.
Did you at any time go to Italy with her Royal High.
ness the Princess of Wales?-1 did, in April, 1815.
Where was her Royal flightless at that ti ttt o—At Genoa.
How long did bile remain at Genoa after you joined her
—About six weeks.
Do you recollect, whilst you were at Genoa, any dis-
turbance happening in the course of the night ?—I do.
What was the nature of the disturbance 1--It was sup-
posed no attempt hail been made to break into the house.
Was there any alarm in the night?—There was.
Did you get up in consequence I—l did.
Where did you go 1-1 went to the great hall.
Who did you see there?—'Tie Queen and mail of her
servants.
Was 51ajoeci there I—lte was.
During the time you were at Genoa, did you ever
breakfast with her Royal Highness?—Never.
Did you ever see her at breakfast?-1 have.
At the time you saw her Royal Highness at breakfast,
was lic•rganti breakfaiting with her I—No.
Did you ever know him breakfast at Genoa with her
—Never.
Were you in the habit of dining with her Majesty at
Genoa?—Yes, every day.
Did Berganti ever dine with her while she was at Ge-
noa I—Never.
Where did Ilergami first begin to dine with her?—l do
nut recollect the name of the place, but it was In the
course of our journey to St. Gutitard, and in the mouth of
August, 1815.
Did he begin regularly to dine with her Royal Highness
at that time I—No. It was at the Villa d'Este he began
regularly to dine with her Royal Highness. After we
quitted Genoa we went to Milan ; there her Huy al High-
ness resided at a place called Olivera. There was a
staircase into which her Royal Highness's room opened,
but it was not a secret staircase. It led to my apartment
where I slept, and to the chambers of all the lower ser-
vauts. I do not recollect that the staircase was used by
the lower servants in going to their apartments, but I used
o pass through it in going to soy apartment. After wet
lett Milan we went to Venice. Her Royal Highness took
up her reeideirce at. Villa d'Este, in September. I knew
where her Royal Highness slept at Villa d'Este. After
our long voyage, t recollect being at Tunis. I accompa-
nied her Royal Highness dining the whole voyage.
Where did Bergaini sleep at Tools ?—I ft COIICCt his
pointing me out his room, and I saw him in his loom, using
it as his room.
Was it near her Royal Highness's room I—No.
Describe the different situatiuns of Bergann's and of
her Royal Highness's rooms I—Bergatui's room was the
only 'Quin up a light of stairs. I never saw any body
occupy that room but Bergarni. There were several rooms
between the Hight of stairs and her Royal Highness's room.
1 mean there were three or four rooms to pass.
Was Bergaini's roma on the same story with that of her
Royal Hignuess /—lia; her Royal Highness's was un the
saute door w ith all the Household. 1 remember goiug from
Tunis to Utica. Her Royal Highness went to the Pollee of
the younger Prince, called Labelle. Witness was en board
the pulacca during the voyage. There was a most com-
plete separation between the part of the polacca used by
her Royal Hie,hisess mid suite, and that used by the Captain
and crew. The Captain had no duty to perform iu that part
of the ship which was oc. upted by her Royal Highness the
Princess of Weles. I never saw the Captain iu that part of
the vessel. 1 recollect our lauding at Ephesus. Her Itoyul
Highness slept el/ the plains of Ephesus. She slept under a
shed. The shed was open, and the suite slept all round be r.
I slept round her among the rest. Sae dined that day iu the
cherl b-yard, under the portico of an old mosque. I am
convinced we all dined together. Li travelling from St.
Jean d'Acre to Jerusalem her Royal Highness rude on an ass.
It is customary there to ride on nudes or asses, or in a paloru
quip. We travelled by night. The Princess was excessively
fatigued. She tell hum her ass room fatigue more than utter.
On her return, the weather being extremely hot, she ordered
a tout to be raised on deck, but she told sue, when infused
that it retarded the progress of the ship, that she did not care
about it. The 'reinstate pirates were feared, and the light in
the tent was put out early in consequence. Iler Royal
Highness, wheu she was informed it was necessary to put
out the light, said I don't aunt it. I would as soon du with-
out it. Iter Royal highness slept on the deck under the
tent, lii consequence of the excessive heat of the weather,
and the smell of the annuals hi the hold. The witness knew
that two Tunisian pirates had been seen, one of Ceyo, t.ad
the other mar St. Jean d'Acre. Tile light was pit out
every evening ut nine or leo lock. simiet iiut 5 tat her.—
These were four sores on board the pulaceit—tauin the
cabin of the Cottine:s of Oldi, and two iu the Princess's
cabal. An alit rai ten took plaice in the course of the volit;:,e
One wits takeu fi inn s lie Comarss of (lid is cabin, and plueett
upon deck under life lent. There was alaU aD Liislisu tra-
velling bed tinder the tent.
It being four 'o'clock the House adjourned.
EIGHTH DA Y OF THE DLFLNCE.
W CON CSDAY, OCT. I I.
The Lord Chancellor took his seat on the Wixilsack a few
minutes before ten o'clock. Prayers were read. The list of
Peers was called over in the usual manner. Counsel were then
CAllcd in.

Lieutenant ileumans was called to the Bar, and his examination
re..unitsl by Mr. TYNDALL.
[The continuation of this gentleman's examination and his
cross•exatninatiun occupied the whole of the day, and we., not
halted concluded whet the House adjourned. The consequent
length of it obliges us to preserve only the points of importance.]
You mentioned in your examination of yesterday, that there
was a communication from Me tent below. Was it open by night
as well as by day ?—The ladder was constantly down.
have you had any opportunity, from going there, of knowing
whether the communication was open or nut ?—1 have.
On what orea,ion was !Mil—One evening, not knJwing the
licrßoyal Highne,s hurl retired,l tan up thy ladder to go on deck,
and did nut tind the tent closed.
!lave you had any oc,:asien to go into her Royal Highness's tent
previous to resuming your jouti.ey *e
—We. always ditnal there
previous to mu departure.
Do you not know whether her Royal Highness was dressed
or undressed during the time sli reposed e-1 do nut know
whether she was ever undressed during the journey; 1 don't be-
lieve she was.
State your grount'•s fur hdieving die was not undressed %
Because I stever saw hity b; =1 clothes in the rent.
Do you r‘collect luring the voyage, of a bath 'dying taken by

her Royal Highness recollect that her Royal Highness d
take baths on the voyage home.
When the bath was taken, of what description was the tub or
vessel which was used 9—lt was a common bathing tub, made at
Augusta, by my orders.
Was it of such a sire, that it could be put into her Royal
Highness's cabin when her bed was down 9—l do not think it
possible.
During the time you was on board this vessel did you ever see her
Royal I ltohntss sitting on as gun with Bergaini ?-1 never saw it
Did you ever see than sitting on a bench, with her arm round
Bcrgami, and Bergann's round her's /—Never.
Did you ever see titian kissing each other I—Never.
Did you ever perceive any impropriety ur indecency in,
the conduct of the one towards the other while on board
Never.
Do you recollect Bergami dressing himself up in any particular
way with pillows 9-1 do.
State what circumstances you know respecting it 9—lt was
done in derision of the English Consul, who came on board tit
Jafih, in a gold-laced cocked hat, large cloak, and with a a big
gold-headed cane.
Was the Consul a man of a pompous figure 9—He was.
Do you remember a person of the name of Alehoinet, who was
on board 9-1 do.
Do you recollect a dance performed by Mahomet 9-1 do.
Was there any thing intlecay. or improper in that dance ?...
Not in the least, more than in the Spanish bolero or the negro
dance.
Did you ever seeMahomet:perfomiing the same dance on shore?
Frequently.
At the end of the voyage did her Royal Highness land at
Tetrachina Bergin, Camera, and I think Theodore
Majoeci.
Was the vessel bound to perform quarantine ?...We were not
in port at that time.
For what reason did the three persons land at Terrachina?...
It was to obtain refreshments, in consequence of her Royal High.
ness having been so long on board, anti betng ninth in need of
them.
In what maneer did they take leave of her Royal Highness 1
...By kissing her Royal Higlinees's hand in a respectful manner.
Did the whole three kiss hands 9...1 think they did.
Nuw I put it to you, Sir, whether Bergami kissed her Royal
Highness on that occasion ?... Kiss her face ! No, certainly not.
Did her Royal Highness pay a visit to the liaro'll 9...
After u short stay at Villa d'Este, her Royal Highness went to
the Villa Barone.
Wlust was the nature of the entertainments given by her Royal
Highness at the Villa Barons ?...She gave none, except to the
ratlines' daughters, and the persons of the household.
Was that outing the time of the Carnivall...lt was.
Did you not see at the entertainments given at the Villa
Barone the wives of any person !...Yes, I have seen the wife of
the Chevalier 'flioniasini and her daughter, the wile of l'ionseor
Mochetti, and the wife of Baron —.
Who was Thomasini 1... He was Prefect of Como for sonic
years.
Were the other persons in these entertainments residents in the
neighbourhood /...Yes they were, with the exception of Prolessor
Mochetti, who was from Como.
Was the clergyman of the place there 1...110. was there fre-
quently.
Did her Royal highness continue in the dancing-room, or in
what manner did she conduct herself;... Her Royal Highness
did not continue in the dancing-room, but chiefly in an adjoining
room, and came in to see the dancers occasionally.
Did you you yourself join in these dance. /...Always.
Did her Royal liihlineas retire fur the evening before the dames
were over !...Chiefly.
Did you ever see, at these dances, any thing indecent or inde-
corous in the conduct of the persons there did not.
Upon the various occasions that you have sseen her Royal
highness during the time of your being with her, was she received
at the different Courts, and visited by persons of the first dis-
tinction 9—At all, except Vienna.
Who was the British Ambassador at Vienna at the time ?
Lord Stewart.
On those occasions, when her Royal Highness was so received
at the respective Courts, what was her conduct and demeanour?
—Every thing that was majesty and grace.
flow was she treated at those Conies ?—With the greatest
respect and attention.
Do you remember her Royal Highness travelling from Ancona
to Monte 9-1 do.
Who was the courier on that occasion?-1 cannot say positiveys
I think it was Cale.
Do you remember a subsequent journey from Rome to Sene-
galia 9...1 do.
In what carriage did her Royal highness travel ?...In an En-
glish landaulet.
In what carriage did you travel yourself ?...In an English
landau.
Do you remember who accompanied you in the landau 9...1
think there was Seltiavini, Dumout, and her sister.
Do you rember any thing happening to the Countess Oeli din-
ing the journey 9...1n the journey from Ancona to Rome, she
was taken ill.
Did her being ill occasion any alteration ?...Yes, she cliaiiged
carsiages a the went into the luntlau, and Dumont weal into the
Princots's landaulet.
blow long have you been in the society of the Princess as part
' of her suite ?...Since the month el Aprd, 1813.
Down to senat time ?...Down to the pie,ent time.
Front April, 1515, to April, 11518, hare you been constantly
living with her Royal nighties ?...Yes, I have.
Durieg the whole of that time have you seen any thing in the
conduct of her Royal Iliglinese tovartk Berganii, of 1)1 llergi.liit
towards ;let lesyal Highness, that was improper, indecent, or
degrading to her character 9...1 never :lid.
What salary did you have ?...2( 01. a year.
Does her ltoyel highness continue that salary to the present
thnel...Slie dues.
Cross-examined by the King's Attorney General.
I have been a Lieutenant in the Navy since the year Bore.—.l
had been six years in the Navy previously. idly father was iv
the service of the Princess as Page. Idu nut know how long lie
was in that service. He was all his life either in the service of
his prercnt Majesty, or the Princess Charlotte. Time Pr: eats
of Wales interested herself much in my promotion. I wee neut.;
Lieutenant in consequence of her goon offices.
Do you not believe that Bergaiiii, on the return nom Jails,
slept constantly unsex the tent 9...1 have heard and believe diet
he slept under the tent.
Now, believing that Bergen:li sleet under the tent, do you net
think it degrading to her Royal Highness ?...No, I do not, 1
think it van nee s .ary that some one should b!itep near her, and
I have heath al' inner persons sleeping there.
You do not think that s sleeping under the tent was
degrading to her 11..yrl llighuess a talalo.l ?...N is, I do not thiak
it was.
The crew of the pohacca was composed of Neapolitans and
Sicilians. llalf Cie crew were upon deck during the night.
‘Vily did you think it necessmy that time Princess ~.lioulet have
sumbenty step with her under the tent 1-1 considered that
the Praicess sleeph.g on deck by herself would not It: at all
right. I had iievet tech any or those men Were Tsailed, enit
knew nothing of their clieiacieis. Her Royal 110iness !i, s
walked with me, with SChiaVilli, as well La oils licrgauu....
She Ma walked with other gentlemen who came to visit her.
.t
was appointedot the Oid,r of tit. Careinie, 01 v hrati
Bergaint was Grand .Nlaster. Flynn, anoiber,
Canters, and I believe Dr. : itiehetti, were shin appofft.‘"
liasiglite of mat Order.