The National Register.
London, England, 1822-07-08 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

(pence of the repeal of certain taxes, be did not expect here-
after that the amount of certain duties would be snore 6411 they
at present wei ;—if tbe contrary were the result, it w wild in-
deed be a subject of just congratulation.— he rerapitulation of
the customs' prod nee to Jan. 5, 1822, was as follows :
Consolidated Customs • . • • • C 4,160.702
Customs Isle of Nl:at 15.753
Cana! and D!)ek Duty . . • . . 26.1.51
Quarantine Duty 13,269
burplus Annual Duties

Total Customs to Consolidated Fund .
Annual Untie. to pay off Dills •

. 5.361.396
3.773,706

9.135,10 2
Total Customs

And fu► the Excise for the same prriud
Consolidated Excise • • • •
British and Foreign Spirits, 1821
Surplus Annual Duties • • • •

Total to Consolidated Fund .
Annual Duties to pay off Bills .
War Taxes . • • •

. 4:21,314,642
1iN),928
• 1.754,101

. 23,103.711
501.201
. 2,761,503

Total Excise

ifo concluded with moving a resolution, that a sum of
7,0491,0001. he granted hr way of amiity.
Mr. Maberley, Mr. Ellice, Mr. Ricardo, and Mr. Mini-,
made some observations on the subject of the sinking fund,
lamenting that the public still had to pay so much toward a
maintaining what was so inefficient towards the avowed object.
i►Ir.CALCRAFT observed, that according to the financial'
arrangements of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to gain the
advautng:• of transitory relief that was gained, the public were
saddled with a❑ additional expence of 70,0001. for .4 manage-

ment."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted that
there undoubtedly was the addilionel charge that had been ad-
verted to ; hut he maintained that the advantages to the public
would be more than tantamount to the expence.
The several resolittions were then put aud agreed to, till they
came to that granting the lottery.
Mr. W. SMITH spoke of the extensive establishment of the
lottery.
The Honse divided on the Resolution. The numbers were
—Ayes, 7 I—Noes, 34—Majority in favour of the lottery, 10.
The other resolutions were agreed tn. Report to-morrow.
Mr. PEEL moved, that the House go into a committee on
the Alien Bill.
Mr. HOBHOUSE opposed the motion. Some pretext had
been urged as reasons for asking fur the former bill; but this
was required as a measure of confidence. As to responsibility
it was nothing. The hon. gent condemned the measure alto-
gether as unconstitutional and unjust, and as intended only to
forward the views of other governments„ and to etieble them to
restrain the march of freedom in the world. Ile conatded by
declaring he would give the measure his decided opposition in
every stage.
Mr. F. ROBINSON defining! the measure as necessary to
the safety and tranquillity of the eountry ; be denied that it was
intended to promote, by the passing of this hill, the views of any
foreign power against liberty. It was a necessary measure,
and his Majesty's government were responsile for the proper
and temperate exercise of the power thus placed in their hands;
he contended that, even under the provisions of Magna Charta,
although free egress and regress were given to aliens, yet they
must be taken to enjoy this liberty under the restraint and con.
trout of the Crown. Ile declared he considered the measure
necessary, and gave it his support.
A long debate followed. The Howe dim ided.—Por going
into a committee, 142; against it, 60-31tiority, for the com-
mittee, 52. '
Mr. HOIMOVSE then moved to fill up the blank with the
word " one" year.
Mr. P. MOORE proposed that the Chairman should report
progress—for the motion, 37—against it; 1 4-1-31ajoiity, 107.
The committee then divided on the question for hlllug up
the blank with the word" two." For the motion, 125—against
it, 55—Majority for " two yearn," 70.
The committee then divided upon the question, that the
Chairman do report progress, when the numbers were—For
reporting progress, 37—Against, 141—Majority, 107.
A'second division took place while we were excluded from the
gallery, upon as amendment, that the duration of the bill be li-
mited to six weeks after the meeting of Parliament beat session.
Upon this the numbers were—fur the amendment, 55—aosinst
it, 125—majority, 70.
On our return to the gallery we found
Mr. WETHERELL opposing an amendment to the pre-
amble (moved by Mr. Brougham.)
After a few words from Mr. Peel. Alderman Heygete, and
Mr. R. Martin, agninat the amendment, and from Mr. Searlett.
Mr. W. Smith, Mr. Denman, and Sir R. Wilson, in support of
it, the amendment was negatived without a division.
The house having retrained, the report was ordered to be
received on Friday.
Sir. WESTERN, in allusion to a notice of motion of his
respecting the currency, which stood for Wednesday, observed
that it was his intention to submit ■ series of resolutions on that
day, for the purpose of having thew printed, and in the hands
of members.
Mlle Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he could have no
objection to that course.
The other orders were then disposed of, and the House ad-
journed at two o'clock.
711EIIDAY, JIILY 4.
The Salt Tax Repeal Bill was read a second time. Ordered
to be committed to-morrow.
Ihe Salt Duties (Deland) Bill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed to-morrow.
The Grand Jimmy Presentments Intl was read a third time and
passed.
The Stamp Duties Bill was re-committed. Several amend-
ments were proposed by Mr. I.tialtington itiol agreed to. The
retort was received, soil ordered 10 be token into further con-
sideration on Monday next.
Mr. KENNEDY moved the third reading of the Scotch
Juries Bill.--Read a third tier and passed.
Mr. W. SMITH mowed fur returns the sums paid at the
Stamp Office by the several insurince offices, distinguishiog the
offiees.—Ordered.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the
second reading of the Small Notes Bill.
Mr. HUME was against this bill, because be thought it went
to extend the protection to century notes against their being
parable in rash.
Mr. JAMES ahonlil take the sense of the House on this hill,
as its principle was to bring thee' to an everlasting aye ens of
paper-monev.
Mr. CUR:WEN thought the ►ill woc:d he useful in the
culotte.. , the people tl.ere preferred paper to geld.
Mt. JAMES psrsistod in his oppuaidoo, bevauess the lota was

34.434

34,234

211

calculated to perpetuate the paper system, and to restore hang-

ings for forgeries.
The House divided. The numbers were—For tbe second
reading, 47--easima it. I—Majority in favour of the bill, U.
Mr. ',ENNUI!) pre4eutcd a petition from the fivalteters of
Ipswich, against the Excise Hegulatioae Hill. Ordered to be

printed. -
Tie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to
Mr. Curwen's inquiry, stated that he p►oposed to limit the du-
ration of the lower salt duty for two y ear. till April, 182. Ile
thought, Irons the favourable avect of the linuoces, that by
182.1, the sum which the reduced tax would produce, Itto,4lodl.

could he spared.
Mr. BENNET presented it petition from various trustees of
benefit societies, praying to be exempted, as usual, from the
operation of the stamp duties.
Mr. WODEIIOUSE moved for leave to bring in • bill to
repeal an act of the present session, regarding licenced malt-
hotetes, each making warehouse being made subject to a picnic•
of 41. lOs. The bill had, he declared, been " smuggled"

tbr•mgb both Houses of ratliantent.
Mr. W. SMITH svconded the motion.
Mr. URIGHT supported the motion. One licence hereto-
fore covered all the malting houses ; now each house was to
be licensed ; and when the bill Web brought in lie understood
(from Mr. Lushingion) that it contained no material alteration.
A practice had grown up of twinging in hills late at night. No
deseription of them was given, and accident only frequently
brought them ta light.
Mr. LOCKART also censored this practice, and condemned
the mode of hurrying such bills forward without having them
printed. Ile ►hould move that it he a standing order that no
bill respecting taxes should he read a second time, without
havinge previously been printed. Ile also spoke of the hard-
ships under which the bark, trade already lahouretl. An acre
producing four quarters, was taxed to the estent of 131. The
taxation proved en obstacle to the consumption.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted, that
many hills were passed without having that attention which they
merited: hut the state of business rendered it impossible that
it should he otherwisa, when so much of their time was taken
up with extraneous discussion. lle was willing that the clause
iu question should be repealed..--( Hear! )
Mr. SMITH (of Lineola ) said several bills bad nt dilTerent
times been passed—all of Ilion tondo., from the treasury—
which the House had known nothin; about till they became

lave.
Mr. LUSHINGTON observed that the bill was before the
House a month. He had not moved the printing of it, because
there were but four elanees in the bill.
After some remarks from Mr. Hume, Mr. Rennet, &c. the
motion was agreed to.
Assessen TAXE?.—Mr. HODHOUSE rose to brine forward
his motion for the repeal of the Horse and Window Tex. He
should, in the GSA place, move a resolution declaratory of the
fact, that the people of England were over-taxed, and that this
House and Window Tax wan not requisite to meet the {worr
expenditare of the country. The Ministers had heretofore
Mated, that taxes could not be reduced, and that, even if they
could, their reduction would only he productive of calamity.
They said thus mach at the beginning of the Session—and yet
the country hail since beheld tire repeal of the Malt and Salt,
and several other taxes ; and, what was still more remarkahle,
the country had not been injured by such repeats, nor had the
Ministers abandoned their places. The Ministers on the sith-
ject of taxation seemed to think that taxes blessed those who
gave as well as those who took them. The people however had
no occasion to be alarmed ; and if they persevered he doubted
nut that the House and Window Tax would in its turn be con-
ceded. The hon. Member then observed, that some Peti-
tioners had drawn a comparison between a noble lord and Oliver
Cromwell. It was true both had great power, and both were
remarkable for the confusion of their ideas. The hon. Member
then contended that the present state of things could nut con-
tinue, that farmers paid their rents out of capital ; and that
without a still more extended reduction of tax,:tion, elfectoal
relief could not be expected. He concluded with moving re-
solutions declaring that the rate of taxation now enforced vc.s
burdensome and oppressive ; and that there ought to be reduc-
tions of the window-tax, &c.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the
"notion. The Horse had agreed to certain financial armee-
rents ; and to agree to this motion would tend to prevent their
being carried into eil'ect.
Mr. MABERLEY supported the motion, and said he would
support all motions for a reduction of taxes till there was •
much less extravagant expenditure.
Mr. WYNN opposed the motion, denying that the rents
were paid out of Capital; so far from that being the case, where
there were farms vacant, there was the greatest competition for
them.
Mr. HUME strongly supported the motion. He maintained
that greater reduction were requisite, and that if the House
would curtail the Supplies, the 31inistere would discover how
to make a dimiaishei Revenue meet all the useful demands of
Government. The hon. gentleman contended, that, in addition
the taxes already repealed, those now alluded to by his
friend mi;ht also he given up. The sum relinquished then
would not exceed 709,11401., and he had shevrn that 10,090,0091.
might bare been given up three years ape. He urged tire
House to deprive Ministers of this tax, aid thereby force hem
into economy, which, without such force, they would tie% er
adopt.
Mr. MONCK also supported the motion; though lie must
say he should consider a redectlon of ten Meiling.; per barrel on
strong beer as better calculated torelieve all classes of the com-
munity. A reduction of ten shillings per barrel on strong herr
would relieve the country to the amount of 3,000,0001. at least.
Mr. CA LCRAFT was decidedly against doing any thing to
effect pnhlic credit, but io his opinion, to adopt he proposition
now before tire House would bare the effect of supporting
leiblic credit, although he was ready to acknowledge that to
carry the repeal of this tax into effect, the Sinking Fund must
be touched.
. Mr. MAXWELL supported the motion. He complained of
the weight or taxation, which drove thousands out of the
country.
The Howie divided—For the motion 59—against it 116.
Majority O.—Adjourned at nee o'clock.
WEDNISDAY, 3tLY 3. _

There being nnly 29 members present at from o'clock (forty
hein.; required to be present at or hefnre tlott hour to make a
!louse) the Speaker declared the House to stand adjourned till
In-morrow.