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felt quite diteltill OS to whether sr not she shad
he preyed forst all. The !loose would do Into jos.
tier as to his motives in urging this p t. All he
was susiouts for was. to prevent the eisestiiiir if the
fatal green hill;.—( Load fanghler and cheersi)--He
hail to apologise to the House. When the mind
had once received ludicroita assorititiotot. it fee.
quently preserved thesis 011 the most Vertote, oven.
Shill*. ft was thus with Trim it resent. Though
ie smile had appeared igloo his lips at the mention
of a green bag. and the recolleetimie con•
fleeted wills it, he assured the (louse that there
owe a ping on his hear: at the contemplation of
the etrxti which the opening of those pillions was
likely to produce on tile in.tr.,l interests of society.
(Cheers.).--When he (mend that object seoighj
was elm fly the recognition of the Queen's rank, her
rights and privilege*, iie thought that be had des.
covered a Ti)' 01 light tollllllllllll4te ihr dirk .11(1
dreary prospect which appeared !wrote them in the
propose.' investigation. It immediately occurred
to him, when Pie discovered that the object was the
recogoiiim of her Majesty's state awl dignities xa
QUeeti of England, what recognition contil hr
equal to that of her pretensions by that House ?
trh it sopport or Male cunld she have for ouch :ut
ohj,ct to the &claret' f?elmg and recogoi,ioti
of ow Moist% fail umrut. bar COO-
e'slliollll to the request of that Parhamrot u. any
odmiarion derogatory, or in any degree disgraceful to
hurt atjettty's honour or diguley ? Ile put it to
the !louse and to the Hon. Gentlemen steer him,
if this were not the measure precisely fitted for the
attainment of the object so mewl' to desired ? The
aber.ation of the Liturgy vus little coletilatert to et-
feel the purpose intended of those who claimed it ; it
timid have nn influence in countries where the 1411-
goage w.ot not known ; it could make some int-
/we-fin') in Scotland, but on the Continent it
would have nn more effect than in China or Jspiii.
As proof of this, he *would mention that the Li-
turgy of die Church of England was not !;sown In
Catholic conntrie., and HI It could ant, under
any circumstances, br ptilphirly used. 'tyre then
was the chief pitiot to which he wished to draw the
attention of the lionise. Whether her Nlajert's
',tali of pawing without a stignis being left sin her
rliiiarter owl dignity. could not be hest effected
by that I Icisi.e ? whether, In 314-14114,4 to the en-
treaties of that Ilmisr, "Mild not lie wildly
and most strectuelly exculpeed from till respicion
of filenie eir Olowoft This snout br cmy
thong IM her part chat had been dour
the.' ithorart-li• who had any cliar,,eter 1.,.t wisdom,
who were 1.4 t mint feared uhiroad and the ripa.t
rwspechrl at home, namely, *'swing a gracious
and coude.cenibtog attention to t'ie wishes of the
swigs,. when those wishes weir. lost Itkely in lie
followed hy any In.. of doodle in complytog with
them. Ile oaf rare that the Quern, iltotiLrli is, or
,origin, had enough of Erightli stuff to Oe*,
if he ought one pitch an expression, to he emulous
Id• the greatest example in the Ecigheli lo.tory.
lie begird the !loose to Cool,iflef-s-stlpoose lot
motion sticcris iul is result, ch ! what pain, what
confusion and trouble they wotit,l he spared tyy
escaping the hitt...h.:Aim.. Could lie but succeed
in that object, lie ceiti•iilvr himself rs one
of the molt fortunate men in the world.—(Cheers I
—13.1 t lie wjrhed to enforce it on the [louse ilia
they had only a choice 4 I evil.. lire. sc.heil them
to compare the plat. stitioll lie had to vt:liont to
them with the miwlitel4 which must rensilt front
going nit. The floc,. ;sod Learoetl Gerd Irwin hall
endeavoured to-set Vitt-ts resn I ii• fore them on a har-
mer night ; lie bud iltscriln d them gwat force
and with his accustomed might. I:iit i,ble us was
that wea'r; oess itself compared
with what would be wittipowd in the event of tnat
investi;:ittiott. His nitid turned away iii th‘gtlPt, and
it mart hi. dreadful i'or any Mall Io 4-thistle!' soil: en
object. Let the 1.051.1;kt tit xt wIlAt 111.,1 111-
vestlVlliotl wouiii be !.s lite nitrite. cutowriled. 14 his
motion were pirrt.•ii or adopied. If oecelittil,
her Majesty witithl perceive that much hal heels
olitSiiiiect on •lier pot iil4 eailv , nod what had slot
!wen ohtitim(l had been ccoicedeil by to .r In coin-
!chance with the wi.lies i' trim:new ; atirl then it
might be fault nr.thsted, that the iesolutimi mod
firmness which she
would stand her in - Cie dent of soy formal
exculpation. 'Fitere wroth' afterwards be no inure
rlnuSt of her i 'enter than of the COUIllgt•
of the Duke of IVvflogioit. rot what witalit
he the to o Q itev lit.'
stud or iii o‘wistfy, and of each of t!porel:arties
ui
relation to the fltl.efs. if hi. were raj. recd ?
List it lie then well remelts's-red, ilta• there was a
time when he hid vlh•ss is them how to avoid thew
evils; 2.'41 1,1 her 11:-.j,!,1)'s niiv..tr4 then call to
their minds' that they uvula haie liven avoided.
simply by lier Alaje•ty giviitg up her feelings :mil
wishes nn 'turtle:Aar 'would to the requvat of the
Ilnuse Commoos. and receivi•ig at the same
soommit the fullest Vflille:C1.111 Ilf It, r conduct. nod
mowstioss of her tal.k sud 4ittl,ltY• lie might he
te.holia its stating. ht. argument*: .1..1'0. it *a* be.
votive that lie leit his wet; wer.i:strios nod tile int..
[curtailer of the clew. If hia gientritts st..st re-
mained defective, let she lucre to turns he made op
by cupi.iifetitty, the idleness':we cCi". that inquiry with
*melt they were ihrealetwit, that iii.kottivii t-•l.
kelvin of ocrustitiotot rerriniinotion-, the erects
uI which, a* to the nutolser, iloslice, or ihlrfirl,lll.l
the parties who might eventually Ise mild:coed,
were ilia in he giieswed us. /111 this Cult might
be averted by xel,hri rd to tLr Ring stud Quern.
The House had but one cnnr.e to pursue, one
only Gbject A soggt salon of a dignified
anti itosiontuble kind, nod proceeding boot 4.
bke that of the Ilottae, r lorly so
wail t+lcuisttll to Ise nierltsituii in a dr lir 4.f
ruck magnitude. 11.51.1 lisice good scoop.,
However, Ina 111011•111 tVe•e• to he it jeftril,
must sati.fy hints-If wit ie the conviction of his con.
sciesice. that lie lead dime all iii his IM,r:er is, avert
the uuscioiels of hop's.). Ile hanged the [louse
to trod I:16r mho!. with candour and deliberation
to the al.ttiOli %hit+ he would propotw, to inquire
into ilte Sall; pet with that spout wlocli would in.
it. act them how deeply they were concerned in it.
that they mere parties to the question iii one sense,
as it equally affected the dignity of the Crown,
I the iiiterros and mond* of the people, mod the
strouri'y of the empire at lorge.—(('beers.)—He
I:seit moved—.

R That tbr Homer shoal, prowl ■n humble Adams to
ii. Q'Weil, 6401 mint/ lye Majesty that thry hail karat with
rufrostirti ■ud tierp visit tin faluae u( 11x IitIOCIA4IOIII fur

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til,-.4.dstest d time esini 4111119eless,
sired by Preflowent and t cushy; Mwit use
fully sensible of the difienby it her Majesty taking,rtii
herself the te siebnient allay pilots I. which her heigoor 1
end diliilj ea Qeiw. weight be ismiltuni that tba
Moose, in seekiNg to ropiest her Majesty N lied to the
wishes of the Ilona* sad the country in sorb Follicular' as
might ;sot in the adjostansat of Orme differences, were
amitosis to declare, that no cooteeminn made bp her Majesty
to the regitert of Parliament and the interests of the nation,
should ever be received or considered as an admission dero-
gatory to her IllajeetA dignity, we he orastened by any
'snug into a sespicioWn" f any ilismseition on her part to
shrink from inquiry ; hot that such coadesion weight be
gratefully received end acknowledged both by the Howie
an 1 the country, and smell only be considered as smother
proof of her Majesty's obedience to the eathority of
Pridiron.ne, which her Majesty had professed to reaped,
snit a dignified acquiescence in a desire so generally enter-
timed to overt the evils which mast result from an isquiry
so distresidoe Si her Majesty's feelinp, so derogatory to
Cie honour and dignity of the Crown, sod so injurious to
the interests of the century."
Before he set down he would unable the Howse
with one word more. / For the first time in hire
he regretted ulna the powerful eloquence of his
lio 11111 l table and I,esrsted Friend would net be ex-
erei-ed 1.0 nitiril 111 his character of Memlwr of
Parliament, us that of Legal Adviser to the Queen.
Vet on rell-etian !se withdrew that regret; her
Nlejesty'r honour could not be more fully consulted,
our her bra interests snore truly supported, than
when her odsocate defended her cause, snot regu-
litre! bee Interests according to the principles and
wi.hei of that !Instr.

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31r. STUART WORTLEY seconded the motion.
If the prepositirm of his lion. Friend failed, there
w.r. tin alo-rmitive but going on with the inquiry.—
(Hear, hear )—Let the House consider what would
tw the state of the country in sail] a cute. Their
fltudies and 'mows would then be filled with coo-
vete 'lions too revolting for decent men. I hi. Ilom
Friend had Pollster' out one door which was
ife retell:illy seconded, the motion.
Mr. nuor citlA took the libererof presentiog
biers, if to the notice of the Morse thus r irly in toe
debate, partly le-ceriee he feared that the indisposre
*mu tinder which he laboured might prevent Min
froth del, erring ilia lbelliIIIV.•1119 at a later hour. and
pinly becenw tie wished to take the earlieet period
re expressing hie dissent from the motion of Isis
Mai, Fritu.i will' earrileur which the
prOofmilino it.rits. HMI tie milliner in which it had
hero ',relight forward, demanded of him. Ferling
deo re the outset it well necessary to reply to the
compliment (if ins uneare) with *lnds his 110.1.
Friend h id concluded, he forted it overseers, to
ileclsre, that thost4ls bidding the highest office on.
rl. r her Al j- sly ill tie law depot linen', yet Inc
not support any argument, or ',How Of sup.
p9l-1 ally proeusition, hut such as were-becoming to
irsgeer C.,ar.o-rr Ha a NI eitliwr of that !louse, and
he would fiat co far 11l the topics protested liefere
hr wadi' be called upon to 'ague no little ;Mahal
of the triesition before them in a legal point of view.
The [louse would allow him to call their attention ise
to Ike testate, thouzli lite failure was unfortunate. of
the ilegooimiaii. To 'thew at to- outset the Import.
once 01 that negoeintinit, lie admitted rit oliCle in
ciedaur that no little had been gained from it on
behalf of her Melesty. First of all it was to be
01nserved. that it was now explicitly acknowledged
that the Holy basis on which her Majesty could be
at all called en to treat. was the high ground of
uniirpencliable character and urquestionable rigid.
Thin was seated in the first. insteisee as a Aine qua
non, wilhiout ahrch her ;stalesty had declared that
she could not cresersit to any further step. Other
illiffererices might ailitsit of discussion or adjust-
ment ; hut here uo alternature Wits admitted, no
prepsortious could be opposed to this
14e oi.c ; equivalents might tre found for some, and
otli.rs origin he yielded altogether, but fur this
radical pert of the treaty there was to be ne equie
relent, no modification; It requires' unqualdit d re-
cogoition of her Majerd)" rights. her rat:k, her
privileges as Qiierii of Logien'', and the r. cog-
Mural was obtained before there was any treating at
all. Tire next point was her Majesty" reception
on not mean to ionirrie blame,
but It Was iorturinus that her Majesty hail not ar-
nved here under dist attendance. and surrounded
liy that tromp owl rircunistence, which generally
arconipauicd Iloyal arroode into this country. Now
there was all offer, in case she chose to visit the Con- [
10 *Allow her all that pomp and circumstance [
which were boilable to tier diem!v and chatticter.
Souse might hold this lib light valirflatifill; perhaps
he did net overvalue its importance; but here little
thisgs were of great consequence. Thirdly, though
the terms proposed for her public introduction and
iiiksiowledgmeirt as Queen abroad were trot 'dune-
drawly complied with. yet something which must
have. been founded ors a recognition of her rights,
and flowing from it (otheraise it could leave
Wi, source, no foundation.) hail been proposed.
She was to ht treated now with sititable respect mod
[ ritterstion (not on the old terms of convenience and
comfort)—and she was to he formally anuounced oil
i her arrival as Queen of Erighisitl, unquestionably
so by law. to be treated ill that character according
to the etiquette of the Court to which eke might
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trove proper to remove. Lastly came the motion
I which hail been nowt earnestly urged, and the
i I:euse foam' no difficulty its listening to a pro-
! penal for jurct addresses to the King and Queen,
begging their conipliatice with the declared sense
cr Parliament. Would any Gentleman recolleet
thet pint quite four Months ago it was impossible to
istitain the name of the Queen from officiel lips.—
I hire was " the high persomage"—‘• site iiluslnuns
I female"—" the high lady—(Hear, kear)—with
eircuudecutions and periphrases iniiiinvertible ; and
all to do what lie would not declare, though any
title mielit easily thyme. Compere that period with
the iirebwist. Now it was 46 Her Majesty"—'• The
Quertio law offiefte"-.-" Her blableatol 411gaity,
reelect, humour' and what not.—(Cheers.)—Fri-
gat. v. ships of war were offered for her couveyersee
to Foreign Courts; sod. last of Ell, came the Ad-
' dress of his lionouruble Friend, confirming. ill no
trifling degree, all other recognitiosis. lie knew
he was constrain% die opinions of his Himourahle
Friends sitting near, him. They persisted in it
that these concessions were all nothing. But he would
ask how the addresses stub have been worded with.
!nut the coneessonne which had been wok " May
it please your Majesty. the Kitar.-ood " May it
please your Highness, Illuatnews Fessele."—
(LevgAtar.)—Now theta was an edema to the
Queen as Queets--(llear. mar)—it wee tole laid
at her Majesty's feet. Lastly. there were to be ma-
suns taken to secure to her that respect which, but

roar Months a,r, was uttetly, horse/ere.
within:M. Ile only mentiobed there role oh-rations
by way of expounding the es... in the 1114411Pe iq
'Well it struck bib apprnheurion. I I.e knew the 4.1.81..
culty of endeavouring to cotivince by argoinirio, thus
oboe, minds were m ale up to a, comoviie roorclu-
stem, and to "Amu it wag pawls{ Iv hlw to G:r4
self opposed. 11. cceld .assure Ids lion. Frielo!,
the Allover, that ii lee hati esiommil to the hn
lettings which the (porn's ow eil-lorra hid a0.:7•-e
ed. he would halo. foam,. t,r li,'!4* ate othelt•n
that three men of ninlnnhtiti
r
were uilq.iesiionahly-shle to re:l4l-11.-av;4ler;
whom no einallne.+ of print root.' prevent fro io (f..
ciphering the characters. end w! o load never en e'
soy complaint of defect in their e)e-sight-4( Lee r •
ter)—would *till 41.4.-..tion the deduction+ whir, ,-
load onaele f the 'wooers wiie, were before • e
House. lloaveser. he built on nil this ..•

the Queen's 11461,e, 4 could not hive ;.1.••._
ilened their deity....aed secondly, th it
ever usi4lit he the resolution, however 5ir0....!•.:
determined they might be in open the
tend lie understood that the bag was to li-
opeeed,) steleilieg. mitt flog l't
would put it to his lion. Friend, if it fh.l not
hove the Queen to stand until a step fur:!:er of else.
cession were made to her from the o:Jir N:
(near, hoer.)—lt might be said 'bat I.le gee s'ee
of the Liturgy coolii not he of ininnob jery,,ft
brcause it welt not first of all insisted en, red seas
tint mentioned in ally of the diacusstons t‘11:::1
place before dome of oral commuiticat•on. Ile
would come at once upon that objecttoo. tt
lied been expresely stated that the Le togy ere.
not so much a sine qua won as riot to be ca•
ride of being set ofl by any equivalent. But
then as to the admission of her rights and Ito.
hour, I:er Illiijeety required tlitte as her test basis
of tiegociatiom deeming other matters of little in,-
potholer, and such as might be kit to future arbi-
tretion. Under throe emolitien• the foie h-.
mitred wes that of reeilence. It was jedged
in-
rnnveuienl for her IM remain its F.ieglatiil, on sternest
of die difficulty of holding tu. ('nuns, am! the
clisegrerables.ess of ohesous divisions isi the floynt
Family. Next it tr,ni egreed, that, in reference to
tier own feelings. if slit elsmild be ioelieeil to
Mooed, tlot tuclination eloold lie secured is
fur as poosible from sniseumareiettote in CO".ee-
Ipleitee of the alleged acema,ions whir% het
been collected tnizrtht.t hull iltrrtn4hi lint ,:.1.
If any thing wire coifed:ilea to eg,e, 'to. !
especially in relation to that invesligatioo, Cie -int.
ter of which, thoiseh produced, ells ma to lee c?
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mined, lint to he elefemleel.:elthougli the Qihreti iul
the most Imp!, Means e,f roonter.eoidemee it es,4
suggested, that if trey thingevert calcnie,set pre.
Went the misconstruction of these ittipo4ing
mance.. it was the restoration of her Law,. to Ow
Liturgy. That this would hove hail the t
hive /Toyed setiefactory, hi, would penlre lire
House ; that this would beer reties-7er, the onhe
obstacle to an attjastmeot, he had tin more dont'',
than be hid of hes own existence—(Load dregs)
—th it out the word Litsrgy once being amicable
pronounced by Geettemen opposite. there
would be no. more el ffirulty in the tiegociat,oo.
This he could aairm with as much secthity as tie
could declare that he was then standing before
the House. Then. if se. he had smeller duly
In perform. IVilitent ottrilsothig any !,.!Y:
motives, without inten4l, any ti.jnry to coy of
those Miiiisters to is hi he telt alinnat
ho.ny evieeeed, he leeu:d exort is !ill deep regret.
with thousands eqlllll iooll•Ntati• of person: not
of doors that ever tied alteration 1,111 been made.
It will net with any factions inotiee+ that he now
spoke ; the 'art ivos dour, end the blame of
cluing it cee.lil not he nut i))• to moo,
a, it. aa,,,h, Hato trove been done, by so much raster
wits it to undo it again. It act, to say the least e
it, not only a slip, best MI illegal one.—.4!!eer!—
It should not have been upheld Isy t'ie law nilvis-
, ers of the Crown. Ile did not wish to tie! t!:,
louse with s legal argument, hut he etoild 2reve
what he hail osxerted from the Act which ree.o.
lated such sffeirs. Some hail said, that the reg.:lo-
tion of the Comiums Prayer col; het:Ales:l to
a body, which was only kneel' to the fist's«
by its eternal adjoureinitaits.—the coernratints
of the Clergy. The Prayer-look, :t• these dig.
!outwits asserted, was put under their cowed by
the Act of Charles 11. He did not wish to go
into such n religious. political, and spiritnal roe.
troveray. Ile had notating to say as to the latneti-
tetinn of D. Jobiron, and other good people, that
this body had ceased to be active lathe ,tate. They
were only known to the House. se he had before
stated, from their perpetual udjourineents—their
functions were obsolete. The Act which regu.
lated the Common Prayer, wee, iu fact, ill cau-
tiously worded, ow to leave it undeclared as to
where the power ought to lie. It only made
mention of n. the limper Immo.' meaning him
or her who woo VI have the pow, r of making
'lterations. And respecting the prayers for the
King and the Royal progeny, it left the power—of
doing what ? chopping, cloning. curtailing, at
his or her will arid pleasure, or caprice ? No; brit
he was allowed to make alteration. ferias time to
time "is occasion may require." To Main minds
what would this indicate but that if George suc-
ceeded Anne. the name of Atit.e mutt ere Ow,
to shit of George; tie Curatie suereded to Char-
Inn e, the name of Caroline should he pobstitured ?
Now this was preciolv his ease, Ho declined rime
reference to mows sod *tailors, toil things den •
and established is pori materia. lie ouly wished
to shew this as a direct way of those difficulties
into which time people had got diem.—(theent )
If the House did not wish to leave throw eliffieul;its,
if they were in lore with them and pre felted t.tvir ler-
pie-edit", then in Gies name let them declare there
von no alternative. let them shew tlsot fair meaning
by hie-fetched conattuctioris and inherpreistious tot
very useful or hononrable to the 1-I..we). let them
comely award that fair, and useful, and boanur.
chic interpretation. which belnitgeel to the words.
Hut he held it as cm answer to sad that the Qweeis
was prayed for with the rest of the Royal Fundy.
He admitted the reassr.s of conscience pleaded by
the Hlsoundole Mover. lie was far from andery.,-
!using sods scruples as hediad expressed. But the
sitar was so far ef. a political *ware. that each
scruples were of little impurteoce i.e settling it.--
Hat suppose It could be proved, by stroloitig the
i fair meaning of the Act to the utmost, that it was
lawful for the King to make that iteration is the

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forte, dill it follow that it was right to dc, He
was prepared to .hew that the letter of the was
assisted. But admitting the contrary, for argument's
sake, it slid slot follow that it aught to have been
done. Here he must observe, that he spoke of sin in-
division, in that tease which was forbidden by l'ainas
went ; he knaw sooliiiig of individuals in such a
question ; woe In the man who would attempt to
mike it an individual goestior. The House could
know nothisig 5.1. the IKirg but as the King, for
&al..* conduct Ministers were responsible. Ile
kia-v• Noble Lord would give loins 'credit
for not doing are thing in oppositioo to bit Ma.
jettl% ti,rre.its host that erhtrb Js teem of duty int-
r.-oer, loon to oho. Ile feared that the healing
had been siti.liett to this oubjecr by
ti.e Hon. Mover would scarcely remedy the hail.
•rhr truth Vf44 not for a moment to he TOUteilrll,
that rvrry t • g is. this re=ed was a stigma and a
del/redactor' whirls was contrary to former prischsee,
and old su..ge mid ruler—them-I—be it legal or
not, whether the King hod by law the power eats-
tended for or not. And how did the qoestion
mend ? I 1 id it not been wool to pray by mime for
former Qinoms ? hail not this Princess been leinyest
tOr till the death of the late King? Bat it seemed
that the Colosort of George I. was a precedent in
point, will this had been cited by his Hon. Friend
he way of recalictling her Majesty to the omission
ht her name, by way of *hewing that acquieming
in this "waive was ua rnillprOfflihe of cliarscier. uo
tletr-mdotion. It had been adduced fur the purpose
of heh,tering op the flimsy argument, that it was
immaterial re stint Illustrious Personsge whether
the were prayed for individually and by name. or
moor the Members of the Royal Family collec-
tively. Ile should sae nothing injorions to the
character or a deceased Princes,; but otherwise fro
should imitt that title was the most offensive ag-
gravation of the erioinsl alight which coold have
tyre.. off-red.—(licar. Ater., bear.)—But the
e of York, it seemed, was tint prayeil
for he n:,o‘r, and heretofore it was usual to
pisy fur I he heir apparent. Now, he said,
that it ac's not at all so nsnal es for the
Queer,; sod in the next place. the Doke of York
I.as holy brie presumptive, cud. therefore had no
title on the groond alleged. But it should he rh.
men:to:oil th,,t the Queen WWI the consort of the
Phr was the first 'object Us
Tire (invite, I.i•d though she was a stobj-cr, that
ass at a hid' could he .mid. Site was iavnsted
-lilt lilfth oriel:eget, he hod almost said.preroga-
tient pistil-I,u to hertelf—(Herse)—for tier dighite
owl protection, for it might be oatsd that her locos.
gonivhs proseeteit her. tiler plate sod coodition
v *;-e t;irte ditf.went from these of all other married
end she was endowed with privileges above
them. Cut what he thonld call the attention I
the linear in on a bprelid manner win, that the was
the stork in law, and in fact. ta which the country
was to look for-the continuation of the Royal line.
—(llcar, treat.,—Gentlemen wceld us:demand
his argutrent if tLey would listen for a moment,
when they would perceive that it was not limited to
the present King and Queen, but was to be under-
stood generally; end if what wit attempted to be
dr.ne in this ilmtsuee were done in others, it might
rite rise to is die-tinted trscressiors end • civil war.
The grervest ingsMity of legal provision and de-
sire bad been practised by our 'inceptors, not only
to yo. rd against the existence of a spurious Royal
race, lint th.st it should not even be tainted by tits-
Mono, and this was the cariittial point of the law
relating,!' to the two beads of the Royal Family.
N.IIT let the I-Inure look at whit the Monisters had
done; they had done what wouhl. have introdoced
that %try suspicion, that stigma which, if her
Mo-
ist% 1.;n1 brrti in aontlitr 'natation and mulct
ether d icomstances, "mold have produced the err-
tion.y cf a disputed sliceetsioo.—(Hear, hear.l—
.th,ierty at the time of the erasure was not an
tte eti;,:hLettrbood of the King, bit the might
here c:roe 40 it. Would say man say what par.
tit:ukr time of life in the Qiieeis Consort conferred
tht. King the right contended for ? arty
r;all szy, that his Majesty could jawfrily exercise
!':-s pow. r in the case of a Qiit en of the egu sf
reparated from him, and nut in the case, or
.:I •,:s i!,`.-nrv.-eat in life, living with Into, and with
d saia with ctii!,l by I.:lrn, for he
• !•• ;'•••: use the Irrn;o3g,.. erthe I .s: ? if dill
,:.3!.! not ho deitied, the:, the King bed tic power,
1.):: an Older its Council, of eastiog an imputation
cHnitaility nil green being.pregrisro, undid*
.::e;,;)tin ivy no t!. to he born.— (
I :1;• %%as thorcfure en exercise or prvro;zii.ve sviach
e tit-ught l'arliatt;,:ttt.eutild not pass (ter. it was
I.t.constittitiond and tlangetetur, and the 4005rr
.!cps were taken to have it Jotse away with, the boo.
ter tor Purliameas, the Constitution, and the moor,.
t ry. fluvitt!: he, tt t..Y. I,y his Non. Friend (14.
Willie:farce) that her sty -ought to waive this
Hid, bemuse ult tr.co how siestsable and use.
Itil it was that it, ecci-ii.:,odittiois should become
so, tax ao.wer wits a ft; one—why ovilht not his
:I::.jtsty, err rit!if•r i ;:. Alioisters. waive
to I. point ?—(il.-nr ; y were the authors of
olutt was caruol.ii,h.,l of " tVet" "111 Mr-
Brooglinro. " hes? id,eve.l the law—salty should we
1.. called uron to :ha which, if we rito, rve
ale-
rrsdr ourselves. le.t a I. li, if h:s Mejlsty's 31inis-
hins do. thvy writ nut at till devote tliesnselies ?
There is oil the iliffarroce its the world as to which
of the p.m.., dues it. It it nothing for his Mao
,tlinoters to do, but every thing for the
(.!:tve!,."--(1,,renr.;...... If low Queen cosicedeil the
"Sits' it ‘l"l'ule. ahe .:mild find herself degraded
sony Sanday throughout the year.:-.(neue.).-
1!1' Hoe. Friend said that it -would not be hantru
fi.erign 1- wts, hut lie (Mr. Brougham.) dill not
1.1,d: if it so-ter rro.prd the Was it
ri,.;;.o.ig shot it a!: old be known in every corner of
?—((•het.•s)—se:.3 it no silts:stage for her
to be re,tureal to that pl.:ce and Outlet) in lbe gent-
rdl -Monello's she had be tire uneupied ? I•Ie was
ti, it lit that Paslianseut toold out refuse her this,
nlifch ass but a bare act of justice. It wasoonteo
"jog io favour of her 31ajesty, to shew by exalts.
Oleg bow hitter.", bow moth Hots privilege in dos.
-site had beers valued iti roomer timers And" here
Ice should go bark to Ilse stork of the illustrious
family that swayed the sceptre tf these realms.
fits first example would be a remarked:le om.
Irthould go to she etionknla geniis, she .outer
hots-which we derived that 10)41 Ishottl. which. in
I."4'undos with ropey gond „object, he most ardently
desired eloou'ol be ptererserl pure. oesullied, and
outsiiitcd, mud float wkich be therefore implored

the House to evert the stale mite Inflicted ou it bj
the restoration of the Queen's name to the Book
rif Common Prayer. But to return :It was well
known that in those days, he meant at the begin.
ring of the last century, there was, among the poli-
tical chmacters of the time, a conflict of opinions
on the question, whether the Princess Sophia should
come over to this country and establish herself
here. One party thought that she should come over,
another party was it, on account, among
other objections, or the inconvenience which would
arise from vetting sip two Cotsrin in floe country.
lint it art... Area .'rein a letter written bv that Moe.
to Laity to his Grace the Arlitiisttioi of: Calf.
leitiory. hoe high a value she art nn the lovelorn'
of her same iis Ow Look of Common Priem ; for
she mentioned it as an equirsilmit In cinurine over
kesoMig op a Court to this country. At that
crisis a disputed rucrearsi tttt was noorehended, from
ifia belief that (Immo 4. /nem was elicaurageig
Jiteut The Whirrs were saaturally ensincosus,
nod called noon the Bieetvesis to come to this Calla-
try, and iii Denim) guard her rights slid those of her
CiaOly. She replied by letter. of which the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman read an extract, importing
that she declined acceding to tie isiopswal from
feelings of delicacy towards Queen Amine, but di..
record, on ncrionit of the sresittiy which that mess.
sure would add to her title mid the title of her fa.
moo, that sue might he prayed for io the churches.
So legisly. cnrnioueil Mr. BroughMa, was 11,1* ;ht.
vantege then tholight of.—(!tear.)—Now, was It
strange that the (limes, should think that the refusal
and wis'iliolding of this right was milted up with
itititinialqlite and implications derogatory to her chs-
racier and dignity, when she saw that the Princess
Sophia had held it of such importance that it se-
cured the tide to the throne? He conld not listen
to the orgnment. that addressing the Crown to
restore the Queen's name would lessen its dignity.
(/lees.'—The Ministers of the Crown advised the
removal, let them advise the restoration—(Lhen-a)
sail then all the iudignity and discredit would he
thiowil buck nit the. quarter to which it brlumsged..—
not on the King, Gud forbid ! Ile should be the
last loan to advise any thing, in any everit, which
mold in the slightest degree ssll.eet Isis dignity sod
bottom, the sirceseity of simintansieg which so the
inmost possible purity was most highly felt by then,
lint she Kim; hail b.rii adored by his Mieis.
ten—(( kar)—asai if discredit or 111014 was to be
transferred to any. it ought to rest with those who
had been Ow author. of it in the first isisonice. Ile
wished that Hon, Gentlemen would well reflect be-
ft re they gave theiuselves up to au error in the coo-
viderstioli of this question. which was adinitted by
all to be an error, but which. however, premed to
ex,•reire some toflueoce upon all tunic who hoil
exisre,toal their sentiments on it. When he spoke
of the liing as acting never from the impillse of
his own feelings or iteiires, butt always under the
counsel of his Ministers. he spoke the iiniguage of
the Constitution, and when be bail stew this ps,„
position shortly after rising, the Noble Loud
(Cziatlereogh) was the first to intimate his perfect
concurrence in the doctrine. But nevertheless at
the bottom of men's minds there seemed to lurk an
opposite impression, and if the decision of the Ties.
emu that night were adverse to her Majesty, it could
only proceed on each a feeling, and Gentlemen would
vote on a ground which they were afraid to avow.
Bot it was a cleXe principle of our law mid consti-
lotion, that the King was an individual who iti 11. a
setioes was Wood by ties; readier to his Boysl
di:trifler—that untie of the rules which governed
the conduct of ordinary mortals were applicable to
him—that his ',remold inclinations and private Pol.
Inge were on no insporient occasion to be consulted,
hut his line or conduct to he constantly regulated
by the advice at( his Ministers or the wisdom of
Parliament. Great would be the inconvenience of
recognising the opposite principle in this respectee'e
Suppose the King bad a sister nierried to a foreign
Prince, and conceived that she was ill-treated, to.
and-bye they would be told that Ida sister wits de-
graded, and that Ite must make ear on her scentoit.
The reply wcnitl be, that the state of the finanees
and the country did net allow it. But the present
question stood on precisely the same footing, and
et be ventured to any that no mats who hail ever
lirened to what had been said Oil this subject in
art her Holm of Parlionseut, that did observe ullu-
pion made, at frost tacitly, to the King's feelings.
And here were Hon. Members to nay that the King
was insulted, if called upols by Parliament to re-
tract, but that her Majesty was subjected to no
insult if called upon to yield,—(Elea., hear.)—
This wis his view of that questimr. An easy way
was open to Parliament to gee out of the difficulty,
and that was to carry an Address to the foot of the
Throne, praying the. King to restore her Mejesty's
name to the Liturgy—a airy of which the Kin
cued not to be ashamed. because it was an act
done only on the advice and responsibility of Minis.
tees, wined) was contrite to law, and which was at
least a ship.—(/bar.) —Tilt:ugh he had already
occupied much of the time of the House. be could
not art down without att;,gesting one word more muss
a topic growing out of the Inst. Why should
;Ministers be afraid to carry such advice to the Rope!
ear ? They had advised the omission of the Quez•li'a
mow under ciressuistences wholly different Irmo the
present. Why then feel a reliiciance to fro ore ii,
When the state of things muter which it had been
done was totally changed ? What was there to pre-
vent their receding losiontably ?—(Harr.)— Let not
those Gs-oilmen eutertson a suspicion that any
thing witch they might do in accordance with this
euggration could lead In the disapprobation mid
disci tvnanee of the Sovereign whom they 'mead;
that Sovereign was too just, too generous, tar mug.
ilmjimon.,, not to acknowledge that such advice was
not voluntary, tout it was extorted—(Hear.)—and
that it we+ the stise of the (louse which cuni.
pelted his Servants to tiger it. Let lint his Ma.
je..l)'o Alinistirs—though in this be was Teak.
creitrary to the wishes of his Bight Hoover.
able Friend (Mr. Tierney, we presunw)—let them
not feet dolt • nitt•ily and honest dit•cliarge or their
duty would curt them their placer.—(Hear. hear.)
Fier," said Mr. Brougham, " I should like to
are the men who would step forward to succeed
to Own).— (ekeert.)—Shew me, I will not say
eDune bold, but those rash, audacious, headstrong,
copilot's ii ilivid us In. who atifild dare to take iuto
their hands the helm from which they had beets
l'erninved fur an hont-rt and coo—jemmy's discharge
" knew that his

of thr•r duty. —(C 3.)—tle .
Hight llon. fiieud behind (11r. Tierney, we be-

newel had chidden him on a former occasion Oar
uttering sentiments similar to these; but that was
in consequence of a misapprehension of what he
had said. His Right Hon. Friend, desiring to she*
that there was no want of young statesmen in this
cmintry—(A boigh),—and that if the Present Go.
vernment went out of office. successors could he
found to them, had nit!' un chi.bleii
hith the other night, as if he hid raid that if his
Majesty's Ministers hid ),twit their olitrit, there
would be no others boand to take them 1t... he
bail to, said, lie agnitiar the isaeregta of
party, snot rontriny to his opinions. Bait what he
had said was very different; he shooll repeat •it
this night. and he called on sow man to daisy it.
Ile said, CIA if, for compl)iiig with the sense aunt
wishes or tiso. trosoo, Iha preserit Ministers sls.,iilil
Ise deprived of :Mar officer. Ile faunal to are
those men who wont) aerwlit the place. *hick tiny'
lia.l heat fir their 011efilt•Iltl• t., Is• sIeiTIIVT••-•
(Cheeriug.)—fle 61 1.1 fain bone +list from this
unlit those. painful prehnsiisery discuss' 0000 • would
be got rid sir, end that step* for mit *rideable
adjustment might lir devised. It was for Grit.
tletnen opposite to concede the, tonna of the
Litorgy, or an qnivalent, if they could discover
one; for it rested oh them- trjecllttic e.sis 50 31" I
out a otebstitute. But he fervently hoped that this
would he the lai.t time he slimed hove to tirldetsa
the Howse on preliminary questions. fir -wrested
the Howe to consider the position its ahi tjt 113,1
137Wwere.Thee were going on Ilene from day to
day, while matioile of drowns the unite wart subject to
misconception awl misrepreseßtntion. end employed
for the purposes of factions discontent. Ile would
nit say that this wale thine from day to day. but
every day's delay increimil the danger hunt it would.
Fee himself. Ise begtzed to easisre the House, thst
he Lad never felt snore real or acitte,p .that: in
differing as he hid been obliged to sin on the Pre-
sent question. from so many !Inn. (?, send., for whiwe
apintuot be entertained 5, itTorT 'sincere nod high
respect. He weed n dory to those with whom lie
stood connected iii that Finesse, front which he
*bomb) never swerve; he nste.l a duty hir country,
to her representatives. to 'work out of doors; hot
lie owed ooe piramonist duty, by air faithful dos.
charge of winch. he tt ttttt ght be should ttttt •te
the best interests oh hot country, her brinone, ettgody,,
and prosperity; lie menet the duty which ree•y
prefessionel man owed his client. Ile eutreate.l
every professional man in the Ileum., but
eslieritilly Iris own frielol4 on tlw spine
to believe that he a is nit .t deeply impreastal
with II sense of that elr4m. .I!is felt that he ow• tI
her alai...ly a partintorint ditty, and that he afar nut
at liberty to ;mien In the elattes of party, Or ',iv
other claims whirl, might iaserf..re with that. If
he could stiffer hisnrelf to he iiiffienced try any
oilier consideration*, if lie could /vitro(' to
views, or make ill?. ioterws of this illustrious leer.
soilage a mean of popularity. lie should desni-e
hinvielf.—(Hera.., hear. keDl-11 he did not ter
her Mijeity that mime which appeared to him
the most likely to conduce to her honour and hap-
pious,. he should 'Omit to hear the contempt
and odium of the cnnntry.— (Cheers.) —ln saying
this, he thought thet trot ric4y he fetid himself
no compliment. lint that if he could act other.
wise, he should reduce himself to the ineenett of
traitors to the inistres• whom lie served.—(('beer:.)
—Her interests and hotionr were to be burned to
before all ',clime lowly or tioptilsor considerations.
If there were any who thought that • ditforrnt hue
of enedort wsr respectable, he ite7hreil none or their repeal.
that dt.yother course would he popular, was • libel
on the people, or at least the respectable part of the prop:a.
He looked not for the perilous rift of the popularity of the
other portion—tie had never itcslrverl it. He altentil sit
down, therefore, repeat hitt' w71,1t he had said bufore, that the
advice which be rare the Queen w-ts that which appeared to
him the most In etweduce to for ern booster and y,
aid the tranquillsry and prosperity u: the (-wary, notwith-
standing it did nut receive the tirprt.hation of some of those
with whom he on ordinary sweat.toos acted in the House.
(Load aid long tin. tin Nert chetrfn:l,.)
Lord CAIITt,CRF.AGII st?ittleti the f;-one that lie
was not so vain of hits own po•,•Prn al to have select.
al the office he was about to tit! as n metier of pre.
ferrnce on liis own part. He felt the rtAerilty of
rising while the IMpresvion orodueed by the hlnn, nod
leaned Gentlenrues soldrers mar free!, upon the thyme.
Thr Mot. and. Learned Gentleman lord &Waited the saute
talent which he always brought into a debase; lint though
his eadeavouring to ‘,wranar:e the Mere that his character
of an edifier of the Queen was riserzed in that of • Member
Parlientent, was an intranre of remit irmnnity, yet
while he last Nothing of the first, he must in the Urlities of
that miserably—

The 1:,.b1e Lord here rinsed, in ronacrenee of Mr.
rriniglinin, who appcarrd to he greatly cxhau.ted,
the and declared, that he would Trait for the retnrie
of the Mot. nod Learned Memher, emu-tiring that prom',
es his elilenetrr of iiiiriaer to her.Majeatfmnitid he lie marls
etemiterord is what he (I„,cwil eastlerrnrb)stmillil hare tome,.
mill to t:te Hume. Toe Noble turd then took his seat.

Mr. TIERA Ey suggested, in order to sore tiOlPs
that there was as Elan. Member wim wished ill expetslhis
stotionots au the quest tan.--Cries Mr. Enniirs.")

Aftrt same luttlier delry. Mt. Broughton net
appeorin;,o,--

CASTI.rtiAGN rielarrd, that ra.her than
proceed in bit etnessce, he *boob; with the remission of the
lions*, postpone what he bid to ray till is biter imur of the
nicht. The only mullion b. fore the (louse was that of his
Ifttnuerabk Friend (Mr. Wi!herforce), and that he did
lent noes,' to oppose; end it was solely by lice speech
ief the l'onnonshie aed Leagued Gridley', en he lead keen
railed up iu order to explain points sdranced in it.
Mr. H. then tttiJetbieti the flooae for
Algot time. front the scullery. He 'kapott' M'at the
propositi.nt f r the Queen's name to the
Liturgy 1153,, inadmissible, inasmuch as if *2l a total dr.
par! urn trunk the Ist.nts averd on at the commencement of
the recent tseivivistlows namely, bat the Knot was not to
1w called ma tv r-f7rwl, nor the Queer tr, adwil any ham.
Immedialvly übtr Mr. fittournso rei•ened, and Lora
Csmnbene.smn said a kw weeds nut audible he the gallery.

Mr. BROUGHAM replied, tharit Wif 3 perfectly Wl-
precedented to requite any ale:Eber in continue in
she Iltistar to Innen in atwitter Menthrr speaking;.
It wat the ntore kepi, by raw, the N0.31e Lurd knew ghat he
had born lalocuring 'awl:a- uce►ctc t:iso; tier it tlae

Lord CASTLEILEAGII raid, that he was perfectly
ready to lir I Ay what lie had in *ay to any period of
the night which might he:ter putt the I lon. and
I.carued flentlnurts ; loot lie 11111 thought firm the line of
arguincut which he loot taken was to be met only by himself,
and is MM ie./11110Si bk. for then, to ulukestimil cub tither, or
the House to perceive the application and strength of hi.
(Cold Castlereagh s) remarks on et-rialto points of his speeer,
unlcsie lie were present. In such mows, a great deal was to
be inferred from the imps-. seine eh ch the traria of the
reply produced on the nth. r par v, from the manner in
which the &we/visions wire received, and the express:xis of
countenance ; and lie W4ll ileartily convinced that if the
lion. and Learned Urntieinsw were nut present while he

replied to hint,lfie Rouse could sot see Aid conclusion ttcy
ought to COON to.
Mr. BROUGHAM maid (vie understood). That to
iteconeasodoto the Noble Lord he should take hi. place in
such a pan of the House as to bear all his ohecrvatiuns,
_ _ _

Lord CASTLEREAGH then proceetleel. Ile was
very sorry that Nosy thing could have cecurred to is,-
terrapt the perfectly good •ademplanding that prevailed be,
tween him and the Hon and Learned Gmtleman„ He hid felt
nothing hut pl from the intercourse and ettlllllll,ll/11.3.
I. with lite Honourable and Learned Gentlt num, prep
ivory I o an adjustment of the matorlissiste esislitig
dif-
ferearea; and he had wow, need a facility in emulations,
the oltsee•sion* from the cleeroess of studeretatooliooe snanifeet-
eal by bias. , The artueilliun wail mow completely under
Ike view of the and there was Redly a ',Mal
or the rpeaturet nut within Hari, ennoprehensien. Gut
the point ter which he so,,,bei wine:pally In Mei tit his,„
remarks, was that breach of the orpiment relative 1., OW,
restoration of her Majesty." name to the Littorgy; beranoe
that had terra represented as the one point a lock boo 31a.
jvatee Minster* might easily yit 111—a.. the is.ie'erave eon-
cerebra which the Government nai4lit rot soi!!. tootle midmost
any oaerigeg of eumiareaey on shvir osn pail, or of dignity
on that of 11* Crowe, but with a real asecv.iton of dignity
In his Majesty—us the me, which, in ...ono iirenen s( 311
er11.1131n1113 eunstructson of Isis, mot a:1 minx twasiilera-
lions, ouch, to he iuseerled. 'weaning Iliat iluestnn, he
was peifectly ready to meet the (lon. sod Learned lie-ate.
man tea the grouted of the erpionsiloility of Ministers for
their as •.re,iss, his Ilinjeitte;• he Mae prepared to pat et nn
the broadest emoted of respoussibility. - tf, oo the principles
of Ilw constitution, the law, end Hie practise uf forms,
Ilea''.,, he did hut establish lu She Mum that, louder all tit,
circunistanre*, the ndeice which Jo and his colleagues hest
'tern the King wns that whirl', as good subjects, they
owed him, he and they would diesel condemned. 'Mutt
respect to the law, if it was ass clear that his Alsje.ty's
Ministers had naltiug to do but to substitute Ilse name of
the Quern for that of Princess of Wales, the ilentily being
seen, earn teething would have remained for the Govern.
mem but to ever's', that ditty as a matter or comae ; and
if the liw were so clearly settled not a step lakra by bet
1181.8 j, vies Government wonhl imlieate a disposition to Hesi-
tate at the adoptiou of that step. They had us err sherris any
reltocanee in the Douse to a. knowledge Rost her Majesty
was de jure Qacett of des rraho—(llror, hen?, hear)*
mil all the proposition. mark. to her Majesty 11'30111d we:at
on Ike ha.* viol that she should reneunce her royal choir:te-
te, sir ri4lNs, brit truly abstain r• lke rartrifewf
of the latter. Ile begged Irate to deny the iutespretatoon uf
Ibe law given by the Flom. and Learned Geutlemso; he.
4:rnicil that the worth* tot the rtottete were peremptory. sol,
be owl that the law dot not eple,prce upon ibe Criss/to the
iseeereity of iosertitte in the latoirr.,y Ilw Names of MI those
who tell within Ilts stesceirttim of the " Kong. Quern. and
the Royal Progeny." And s hen they examined history,
they would dud thst s." fir Croat this principle being in-
v 'viably art, d on at lat aklishea law (ions the Mine of the Act
of U: sti.cretson h ad been constattely exercised by
Ilw Canard In nicht& or unlit she name, its question seemed.
ieg to it. ewe of tlw fewer, nictaieres of each case. He protested
agaiest the doctrine, ohm it no.* eettel tsetse stigma us every
ment'ser of the Royal 1..81114 to Lave been included withia she
wane.. prayed for at one period and excleled at &anther. If
they looked In other times, down from the Rreldistion,
they would End That there was nn established principle
of selection, bat that it was arbitrary, and different
at olliTereut time*. The iesertion of the name was given
to several mot "ratan Ilse descAption to 11w statute; fur
example to the Prins-rag Sophia. The Noble Lord Well
adverted to the fart of the Duke of Cumberland's name
baying been expusged hum the I. Morey. by the direc-
tion of his late Majesty, st the COMlllellltellktlli or VA reies.
He quoted the case of the Comma sir George 1., nod of
Prince George of Denmark, the hoshand of Queen
whose same, were nut iturorlacel into this Prayer-Iwulti
sad in fart there was nn end to the cases in which a distsie.
lintiory power had been exercised. The 1.14111 glleStiern e-
Core was, whethr r on Ilia present aleciumm that dlacretiu:t
been wisely exercised? The Dam. snot Leatrued Geolltm on
Lail said, that Cie erasure Inn' token !slate is contentylationt
of
some proreedinza the %mess at law, or hrforst
Parliament, founded on the paters rot the table. Against
thin oliairwalion he protests,: it was not fonudeti in
fact.. So far from its twin{ then the determination of
his Majesty's Mil'iSieT3 111 propose ass invertieatiou into
then paper., that thry had rerta:ed to every expeilieul,
marl ward every effort to avert that yublic calamity, mist it
was only when the Motwis reforms! Ma' they footed them-
selves compelled by a painflil tonim of duly tn adriczi his
Majesty to lay the pagers !afore the Moose. He hoped that
he and bit colleagues bail stever cenbouuded charge with
guilt, Rat they were then in pm-iessi tttt of information,
which, if true, established the mart grave rhoulei 'gooiest
her Majesty, If was (ne them .to rnosider, whether (awe:
possessed of that information, which ion thug but the ahavt,ca
of the Queen could excuse them from laying before Pasha.
men?, they sbutel.l call upou the King to teopeire the
people to bestow their prayer+ ou that illustrious lady by
name, end they had corns to the coueltinsori, that it .41, nut
eletakteat with their duly to give inch advice to the Celia n.
The lion, and Learned Gem.-torn, her Alaitmly's
legal adviser% he conceived, Ism: thought the -i:ttra.
lion of the Liturgy a point as light as stir, far at
first tinlfling hail been Inwerilmf it ; thP rig! is e
Q.,r1.11, lie jnre and de facto, wan the primal,
helot the other had been ronsirlered
vital importance, upon what ground they hod
suf-
fered the forms to negociate ander a dritetion—..
(Year)—lie resold not say. 1:e regretted to vity,
that it had been ton much the character of that
no,etteiattot, to forget its every entre of it ail thug
antecedent proceerhogs.—jHear.)—fle mast fairly
nektlowledge that he had felt question to
different from the moment the charge Was halt! an
the LIMP. Tie Nftble Lord connotive,, that lir
had not !teen ten mingles in conference will) the
Mo. and Learned Gentlemen, before they agreed
on the havis, that I.k Mej•sty could not retract Ail
thing, whirls he had been advised tit do: but now.
lb.: Ilea. and Learned Gentlemen wished to bring
back the question far beyond the point at irshii h
they were before agreed. If the Moss. and Learned
Gentlemen had thought that her Majesty's Isononr
could not be wowed witin.nt louring her nave in Abe
Liturgy, he milked, why lie had not applies! about
it from St. °mere? but he bad not stud sine bag
on it, het he hail placed the whole in the allegsd
disrespectfid treatment of the Q Yeeti by hit .11611,-
jeaty's Servants, particularist:6;4, he Inhered, the
flannyerialt Nlinister. but wet one syllable oboist
the Liturgy. lie 'believed that this was so after-
thought, which, as an advocate. the Hon. and
Le.srited Gentleman r onridera himself eutitled Its'
press into his service ; hilt front the character of it.
be thought it came 1. a very thfferetst camp. tie
must complain of the manner its which the Hess.
and Learned Gentleman had represented to the
Flume, lit at at tit,' divettasico, hinicelf (Lord
Cll,l:ereagh) touruhled I,y accident ea the word
residence. and tint 11,.(1 looti..;ht Litany into
view ; the. he contentieti oda not it catolid retire.
sernattim ; but that the lion. unit Lettreril Gentle-
man should hare gone to St. rioters, for the pur-
pose of *vetting the ;ivory which every ore dr.
premed, and yet sliotthl never h:tve cointitunt-
LAIN' to her Majesty the wl.ule of the propouttott,
was nut a little extraordinary. fie nut satisfied
the Ilotiourable and Lean e.l Gentletnan was ton
able an advocate to omit one OPP essential
to his duty, and it' he had felt the question
of the Liturgy was it vine gun tr:n. it wag W
dusty which, he owed to 14 client and to ;oa Malt sty's
Government to tr:tug it forward ; but he bad

brought foritard three lithe+ peirkli, end that elle
lint among them; had that point bete pal at first as a pert
of the boos, which, in venation., &inane, ea a cardinal point
it ought trihave hems, it world have terminated the negoti-
ation at once; but he did nut believe that it was at that
time its the lloa. rill Learned Geatkman's ea ad, and he
trilatr.l that the Ilmme wowed ant wow *ere, .61h him in
'thinking, that it ought to form a past of the arrangement.
The reason why he (Lord Castlereagh) minaid.l..l the porstimi
of the Cfneli as otilferent now from artist it was helot, the
papers wire !.4 'I on the table w. st:iit, lit; then what( ver ro.
in.mrs erre :throad were merely reasons's. istel not fIOIIIIII4III.
ratline.; but (min the moment that information was. roue-
in 4iiirate.l. II lot-erne nisi...alter in his liojeo)'s G9vefOtOrlit
to,setraci ti..y sieps lakt it postedloq, every thing nut int .!ce
i.ig 1114 It sap open to :its Majesty. 31 twisters 10 I.:vise. Ile.-
Fad felt that the tiniest ism of the Diar=y was lint 4 question wt
law; if it en nid ha,. here au irersiaered, tint:. verioilientasiii.l.l . ..
bare fair it ir. the cresAest vassibk retie fl, lint bit .trlisas k ',. .ti,.' i
alarm hint then ennsiilvid it aa a tietesti,ol of d,.erttmorara
pirwqr, and lied "denier! his nejest) affolllol2l,7‘ and. wit tiosit , •
ramming the irloraialons :ant on the latle le be 1.me,11 trail - .
ionesierible for Om Ministers of his 313j-itty to h",,i'vit,
wine..-advice. II; thor.fore.hie;o4nta'.(hrevitinsesit Went,
nut Called upon , I. better,. any thine, au.l glib House takil
Mtn its esmaideratuto the reaollislSPiettiroOlii by her 514,0;
Ow wort a iy i hir::e egaiest „rely hail 4,01,i feta tt:o powers
and Might deal with the 'lathy ',toroth% to the slew ,f
Him. Friend jMr. ‘VillterEorce)l bet itedivr'fti 'I
'
Howie oosihl aril fume to-nay declaimer istorli wortl. "
the *tamp n f nwiresth use.. this hilliels iisipiry lien;mo ..!
fi.M, and that they avoii.l.ho iainfiril he S. .iiiio hat iiiktor
30
the evoilry ferry chimer of avion'tsig iiiiiireAfrihtisentrinsitS! .
Thausth the Ilienitere I.4.44eurmellAeo•iktsjekt; therk,lhis:
nerrssary oviwnlineure It li{r enmity.: In ibis rool,lo} letteSor
lie hislie..y In Parlinamita, he trusted the tines,. istiold *Poo, -
they had mut itmenterea a pertiaacionsiihronertmu la 11141414
to I!lllVitillify, Of any streire Ott intrii.lo,' .titieltUirts eill!
. cans: thiratline of the serdwriation. S.§..rt of the sylimiss- .
1,04 pf Me Crown (elm the siosootorn lab,,il Ito, they, "1014
be maid happy hi lie enabled to join In Ihe tinleseoririi in
avoid that 4110.1 sistafiel,ie.aniry. to justice, in generosity
it ens inrunshrut on the I,lOOSr. if the fictive ilionyht it .;:oli,
'Went 'eri'lliler post:ion to cure to Os wishes. to put tlio
most favourshie romatenelion on her roof...sine- '..1(
(tontine,. d the tiutde Lord) his '.:.j- tit's ...Ito` i•!)!•• 1
r ['Cede.. :111 si, ir v ill'azesee Itirinselves, lint will not a;r.n.l
an r rehsf to I: r M•ij,sty, end if ire roist.l rrtrAet oh.- aihrielii
whir!, we have ::iseii, Wn. .010 Oil be lb, bmeat Ilii li ll .7. that . .r
cirrr mlytrell t.i, (Tyre,." 'Tie N•rlaii L.,141 5.,1 be wet
faemirable to the pre:owitioroi or his glow. fokend flit.
tram-force'. hereose it did not at all invoke any part of .
Ito. nieri ts of tEr case ; :ant if lite 'poem of 1...r..Ti.rr5at1.M...:
of attempt,oe lit forget a 1.11110 1011 ft fr:, l'y ..r.'SMOW.I-=ir -.
points of great impuslance ware Ist he 0,11.-.: htrsinttl ap
conditions. the I/ iusr mitho teil -I,lisu so ivy hope or. sat is
,ti•facton y nett he iiii•n'. The;can ise or mileoNit Is 1111110 *1414 . .
teary tlihig sia iiiren•i.iinit nO. 1i..• itOntot• a the Comte ..
ID giant, 11!.1 from Ow cLUIIoWI le fur tete tOllll.l 01(1114
reer.!e.
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Lord AeCtlll3 tI CI
.uolee it)
the I loono torreented :re from elistisitnly healing il•en
' heat re.lirtire• of Itt
her...ril to he lic4,:echioil, in sileit be .01.40411 e/. al
epeaking from no arthor.ly bet hie* tiwn.• afletioteiii
!awl there was no indiv,.taal who felt nnirenrillowt w the
pahhe ineeptepsiion whirl awaited that limner ,
Ile prof-seed, wits the lion. 3lerel.er fute.re.finewe, to;fiavie
on other object in vi, • than sub.:tont:o inuitire ; *he nieint
to cast no n gection ir••liers ; fins what:fie thr poolosi.
lint Of Out Hnn.fl-ullenein! why it was nimply 'lint toe nitrite
IrAj Med *11011:.1 !worn Inother lwjurad, and Ibis with a vivre
to be entitled to a pertial relief. It wit tune ate hie
tine of eutintittfor the same motion tithe Hone. at he one
of which he had cieen notice, but he had heel' withheld by
the dentine/ of the intliret en !'let nerennite air: roehearecre
on all aides. Ry thesennoi Yen fir It•d Nom et-0ri01e...1-oldie
' this thy. He breged to call the sittetili un uf the Finn,: Is.
roe point of his nun. and Learned Frten:l'a eine:aeon an• cells.,
to which the Nohle lord had •ttectineil no eerily. '4'he, point •
that lithe w enneinsio an njoitioeithal er-nl.l
hr advisable to eratiste her MoriestY'. name In tie f,iterry,
deire that mir.llt he ihnii%lit rln.r.lll, (Ifni to MINIM. ga, hot
certainly not to hie :11pjeety. • lii. ;Unjust/ kauf,'liiialitlego,
riled only Nadir advice-.•n the ;ilinisters, and to them oaf),
the blame belonged or •:.-!vi,iittz hi 1110;rqy to mind flirt
(bereft.. name i I.thie rty. Th, Hnu. Mi rth. r (Me. Wit.'
Iternieer) had made a fhere'ref,', belfe"lf
hr ennsiderttl nettle is the etureene; he sint,J, thee ender
the central Otiose of the Morel 'cannily, sine resioviot ►r+
already swayed for.- if she wf s, poi aim ono IA %Oast,/ ; voif
if it wont -11 be an lort,seity M unlithim Mny.iya tome, iris
eontil the !Inn Mesell,:r sireee that t areehthe 'itedifk:•ith
oil omit her 51ajeety'a ? lii. Hen. He re..e
who he Omelet here thiseelit winthl repiraidoe‘sion .tosyrownil
the maple of little tantnent. It wan hew* tin stainecdfn.
forting that licaMrated the proposition of his I:ins. rriettat
would manumit a further injastiee to the Craerai het Fey
fronted the Howse would teener what land been done nisi.
justly, rather thin rerarvere in the pane mares. la nth. yo-
trig en the Order in Cathleen, he contended, that it was villa
In remain in Court. He bid letters fru.m Lleer.snot On
that it was nun-effettiose, cur in :nary parfibee her Slajetly
was now relyed for by same ; he willed thee' fore Wt.! !es
fer:ntel hew Ole Church was in eraiirseehat mike
was neglected. Ilia firm opinion was, that it wan a /Ulna
cfreetive order, Red imight be di:inherit withroi nesse:fyaw,
and, in point of (net, it we. so disobey( ul. The i.efitft
Lord reftreet: In the scalds of the Order in r-ollicti. total'
'greeted the am:no-ion a the names f the I's lit-e end
ern of Wales, foreseer in fart three erre nun loner •tn/
viols ;vermin'. lief it did not r, on to shy too ithesil4 hysit
the Qnseen; and he contended, that, nnitew the nein r. e'fnt •
men might pear fir the Queen by tame, es e 4 -. for
the liior—and he couid, if it were proper, state n.ll ,•.
of one elerr:rtian who had determined, notil ii' y
tothority. to COOlielfte to 11111 so, consider-leg h- goof:one, :
irenswittent with the 'principle% et Cliriv.u.niity. if, =van
sett again what mode wins there of none-eine obedieticrto e
order? The Noble Lied now proem-di it tit read this:wet
nom a biter of another Clergyman, expicesnie the: PAD'•
M complying with tie eider. lie dud not mean to
ray, that tire staleincou. he had read were 4 easmi:
mar; the asseadinent A hot :a he proposed lu sure; but he did
think it ruttier hard, any vesieralile body Of sorts,- fhalioltitr.
mall either-be oreher.l of disloyalty, if they refot,eiLuieeiie
mice Is, an bottled tird:r, or by confuse Mint to it et Penn-sty
to their ideen rfeht. wan mime proof cf "te *prig* wit..
whir!, the order incited, 11-1 it •ntenuleil to sicir e
there wits nu jun-Col:rum' and no LA urey. he :\ -4 I
bed said, the !loam. i!•il cut know the charges e u -
contained in the creels bag. Granting that the oral
90 misinformed, it was nut loceissislent In as!: lei is her "fie-
jeidy'e name shoal., for rl-roit in the •
she might never to have born removed 'f h•• '-:elate int.{
demented the app ointnient of a Committee. a:nth an cut
been chosen in another place, and added, that if the Ile.
insurable tientleasan's Bele:al/a alauuld he retried, her
Majesty had lii tier mats it than actruie.r, in a per-
manent diserere; bat he trusted that Miniiaers.!eoflil
be compelled to retrace their stern in the inctanee of
the Liturgy, and restore her Majesty's name. Otte :clue.
Sinn. Friend (Mr. %Val/wenn co) le• toned lo I. lot, •
adeirled le login e. The lien. Gentleman had f.ot
to Ilie !louse and to her Maj,aty's advisers lb-
petits or the inquity; het he would ink, if it wield nut Ire
more c0n5..i...1 civility in address this tunic to his
Majesty's Ministers, rather then to the Queen ? The urn of
the flue. Gentleman's prop. bb was, that the Cloren we. Is.
give up every thing without equivalent, and be esinsidrovil
that if she were cons irled she comfit out be inure 6,14.11:f1t
than ate would he if site acquiesced in that propusit;on.
The grown, on which Ire rtionlil real the asiendinent whirls
hr priipunied tn move was, that it /tat a specific tact of jar
lice fur the obloquy whirls his ' ftivjasty'e Acacis.
had east upon the thieve The Lard e.macietioul
moving to lease sllit the wu.riln in the motion el' Mr. '
Wilberforce, vel:it h recommended her Majesty to fuel,,,,e
the prmusing of reeling points, and to insert tusteati thereof,
" Thal the Honer is hilly seneible of live objeetiust, w web
her Majesty must entertain to the relistquinhing of pUifiFf, iw
Wil'fil she conceived her konoar to be involver!, end 111 cf
opinion, stint the ing.riiiiff nit her assure in the tailor g 5. ti
would he the most effectual mode of soaring the douse the
pima of these public discussions, which% who/wirer ropy fie
the result, most be distressing to her Majesty's fee::ngs,

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