The National Register.
London, England, 1809-05-21 00:00:00

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I. ;at' C C.' ELIO IL of OW Cll liQ U E a said, that he hart had
it for many years in contemplation 4o bring in-a. liill (or
pnrpose 14, that now proposed, but had abandont.4l the mea-
sure from a disability to carry it into *Pct. Nor eottle he now
admit of the propriety of such a Bill, unless the Doh.
man could she w Itreti the probable advantage; which were to he
cirri ved by the, people of Ireland from itt lie contended that
instead of advantages, the most serious Inconveniences would
aris.f., and the people would he subject to new burthens and :at w
tqA es. If leases were to be granted, of the sort propysed 1)
the lion. Ceutlemau, they must neeefsarily be submitted to the
Plishop of the Diocese, in order to sec tire the proper value of the
ts thee for the successor of the incumbent who might giant the
Ira,e; and in consequence of this, agents must he emplo)ed to
urvey the land, which, with many other incidental ex
must become an additional barthea on the people, as in nil
the tenant must pay the charges. As the whet: stood at pre-
sew, they were rated at 50 per cent, below their real value.
If, therefore, the commutation proposed by the flout. Gentle-
aim, was agreed to, it v toad only give rise to new dissentious
and create eatise for new dissatisfaction. Under those grout] ,s,
the felt it his duty to oppose the introduction of the 13111.
Mr. D. Bitii wNii: concurred in the (minion of the Jinn. (len-
tleavin who spoke last. lie oily regretted that the Isill had
not been brought earlier, as it would have beets discussed 111011:
at length, and advised the lion. Mover to postpone its intro-
.4uetion to the next Session of Parlimaent.

Mr. Ga ATT r I thought the subject of the tythes of Ireland
i!ras one of the utmost iniportanee. The uofortunate people of
that country v. a: first oppressed by the proctor, in whose hands
the most tmlimited power was placed, and Woo exerted that
power to the utter subversion of all happiness in the wretched
families of those who lay within the reach of his pitiless grasp.
It was the fault of the legislature to vest a power of oppression
in the hands of those w 'oo were so liable to abuse it. The proc-
tor had no cotineetimi with religion, and became the robber first
Of the people, and then of the par:on. lie robbed the people
l frainkotia exactio:N the parson by a bankruptcy, and
the gilVVrilffiellt a hick could tOleriltP such abuses became almost
the detestation of the country. l'he lion. Gentleman argued
with great enerzv in favour or the rominutation of the tithes,
:rod reeommeut;ed that in an early part or the next Session:, a
Committee should be appointed to inreitigate the real state of
the pea-antry of irelan:l, ;tad to ii.dopt some legislative measure
to relieve their distresses.

Alter some observational from Mr. M‘Naughton, Mr, ('raker,
Nr. ILutchinsou, Mr. Freyeti, Mr. ‘V ilberforce, +j r. Canning,
Mr. Poth.onby, and Mr. Partici in reply, the House divided—
ror the previous Question, 137 I :Against it, 6•2 I Majority, 15.
The order of the day for the House resolving kiwi(' into a
(►ommittee ou th, for Proventin7, the Purchase of Seats in
Parliament being read, Mr, Cu n v .aid he tbas perfect
ready to postpone the cme.ideration of his bill till after the
holida)s, if (eutteweu had not made up their minds upon the
*abject.
Mr. Co utto a% w was averse to any postponement, and thought
that the measure had better be discussed at ogee.

Sir W. W. WyNNE supported the bill.
Mr. .lo tt sTo t.: denied the necessity of the hill. The !we-
nn( times. he contended, were, upon a eon isou with former
times, etnifienly pure, and he though t the agitation of such
questions not likely to be productive of any public advamage.
After a fen words from Mr. LEM()
Lord NI r I.ToN moved that the further discussion on the bill.
should be postponed till Thursday next.
The Se Kt it leaving put the question, the motion was arced
ton i t hoot a dissenting voice.
The other orders of the day were then dioposed of, and the
Jiouie adjourned.

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