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THE QrEEY.

Lord (.7AsTLEnEAtiIi, in calling the attentiou of
the floino! to the lunation in which it toned wider
the priceedin;!. vi the hist day, Hod the order of
this silty for die atljoitree.l deber oil the Krig's
ftlrssage, certainly nu I fairly that he eOllOl..
dt'foNt the sitliantoi in whi h the fliiii-e Wee pldeed,
r (It'''. the 0111,sr tidni,tril ire 1; :Jest'', hod the
of the rtrorli• tnade. by I'ml:sit:tint for Int
3micubtt: u4llit•tintnt of the e%istgig ponds of &I-
terecre, In Inch ailort• In, Majesty's Goveromeut
bail lent theiwirlves unt: the utano.t cordiality,
a• the hope 4 be had tiler
ro'rrtulled (And iihnlcvrt Onn,e hulica were. the
Itnttsr KOlll%l recolirct tiait lie Itatl stlways
tie, X10rt4,11,111.f them with caution) of putit an ar.

ritigelli?"l. The I ioufte would see burr every ester.
host for amicable mainuassulatiim ou Hie pert of
lklajr.ty'o Gmernment anti Parliament was now es.
t...l),ird (hear, kra•)—tilet use oi:ler course was
uua ct, be lutikril for, mid Ho oilier proategiugs to
Ire ellprriril. then those winch world" seeomplith
the encl. of juooce—(hear. hearj—tflicteste her
.Alaiesty's (Iwo ilteires—(liear)--attii put the molter
into a (a tir.e ul jtitimial inquiry. with as little delay
as imi1...1/ir.-(iiiffirj—Btliere •taulmc to the House
the col) hoe of procrethog now open to spats, 1111
sti,laml to call the Went so:/ ortheillourevery shortly
to *list Led heel) Lir course of proceedings lee to
the 0. two time, sod whit war the previve situation

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in whieli the House at present stotek by *hick
they woo* ilie better utiderstand' the teem:
which he aow'relt it his dolt to propossers.
From the 'Western cleat the Csovernineut had
thought it their duty to institute proceeding, on
the recut of her Alopisty's rehires to titiv•comstry.
they
,had resolved tit communicate to the Hone
tier 'affirmation contained in the papers on the
• table ; sod they had framed dint course, as heifer
most consonant with Perlimaratery usage awl pee.
cedent. sect most calculated tee satisfy the co& of
justice. If they had adopted a course ifs relation
to thew papers, which had been objected to ivy
teeny Gentlemen opposite. he assured 'them that
it had not been for the purpose of shrinking front
the performasee of a duty. nor to avoid incurring
' any responsibility' which might arise out or their
condor'. Their recommendation to Parliament was
not found,hl as any reliscasace er disinehnetties, of
that stature, but so whet was considered the Par.
hameettery moire of the best times. They had
thought it their duty to lay theinforreatiow is their
possession in en intelligible shape on the table. coils
ceiviug that Parliament would net be warranted iii re-
criving a charge of so grave a nature. end conceruing
tier most illustrious personages in the empire, unless
they were previously put in possession of t'on'e
means or information which would establish a
prima facie charge. It apeeered that it would be
too strong an act of confidence in soy Minister of
the Crowds to expect that the 'Howe would receive
from him a charge of that description contained in
the paper', without having finot had something of
evidence communicated to them that would make
out a print* facie case against the person accused...
perticulerly when the aeumation concerned the
two highest personages in the State. They
I believed that unless the guilt we* completely
:risible to every eye. the noose bad always re.
quires! some preliminary steps. It neverlied been the
1111 practice to bring the whole of the case before
the House at once, but merely so moth of it all to
I justify the Hattie in taking further steps. when it
i used satisfied itself that there was a prism facie
case. One motive which lied actuated his Majesty's
I Government in avoiding a more extended inquiry
I in the first instance. was, that they considered that
conciliatory steps would still be within the reach of
ij Parliameist, till the inquiry adopted should have
I toren brought to a conclusion. But the result of the
seteilerence of Parliament had been very unfortu-
nate. The first night that the question for comi.
akring the King's Message had been before the
Honer, an adjournment had been moved and agreed
! to for the purpose of averting. if possible. proceed-
-1 ;alga winch none could contemplate without pain.
ii need knufnig to some amicable accommodation. It
I was certatecly true that her Majesty had been frau
I the first averse to what was called a Secret Inquiry.
She had en her letter to the House requested an
open amid full investigation of the charges against
1 her ; in a later stage of the proceedings her Majesty
I. renewed that request, and deochbed herself as
i !wing in the vibration of an accused and much
itepred Queen. end had, in effect, renewed
her appeal for a more direct investigation.—
' 'llse House would recollect that the first edifiers-meth had been made in order to see whether any
1 thing could he done by which the inquiry might be
I! averted. The effort bud proved fruitless. There
were strong gmunds to expect that her Majesty
I would have resigned !when to the wishes of Paella.
teem conveyed to her ; there certainly had been
reason to hope that her Majesty would have mimesis
esced in the advice of 11th Heave conveyed to her in
i a resolution, not emaniniono, it was tree, but more
strongly supported, and carried with a larger ma-
jority thesis any advice which had heen ever given
1 by Parliament to any branch of the Royal Family;
I and he said that they would search the records of
, Parliament in vain for an address to soy member of
Ithe reigning Royal Family, or of any family which
; ever sat on the throne, which was worded with more
conciliation than that presented to the Queen. He
was sure that if the House had thought it their duty
to require from the Crown any concession, and
" that the motives which prompted this feeling
i were as sacred as those which had influenced.
; tlee mind of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Wilberforer)
in proposing the Address- to her Majesty. they
; wankd nut hate hesitated as to the course which
l they were celled on to pursue; but that. otl the
i contrary, the conduct of the House would be one
I of those things occurring every day. to shew the
excellence and emblems% of thee constitution of this
I country. The result of the Address to her Mae
I jes,v had been unfortunate; that it had been ill.
i advised, was a question on which lie should be
sorry to be understood to pronmance..-.(Hear, end
a laugh from the Opposition Benches.)—Hie said,
that she had certainly resisted the strongest sp.
I peel ever made by Parliament to any member of
I the family of Brenswick ; and the only question
I now was, how (lie matter might best be put in a
I course of judicial inquiry, since the groitest efforts
ever made by Parliament to effect an acceinsmode.
I lion without inquiry had been unsuccessful. He
i thought her Majesty. in rejecting the advice of tho
' House, had again renewed her claim for a fell its.
vestigation. He thought that the case was msteri.
ally 'dieted since the' reception of her Majesty's ati.
serer, and that the Ministers of the Crown were now
called on more etrvieglr than ever for admieistes.
mg British justice, stud to put the charges rod the
rewire of the evidence in a shape which the Quito
cot.hl no longer- ansundersotend. He thought it
was stew become the duty of the Government SO
he the instruments of proposing to the House that
direct proceeding which appeared best calculated
to accomplish the ends of justice. Having stated
what were the kraut's!' of the original proceeding.
and the situation In which the House' was now
placed, he should endeavour shortly to Idtplaiti
what course appeared the most advisable muter
exiting cireumetinces, and most likely to meet
her Majesty's wishes. And he should say. with re.
Igird to that expression in' her Majesty's Answer, is
which she said, that in taking the step she' had
followed. she ran the risk of displeasiog those who
might soon he the kids,* of beremidect...thet go
ter from l'arliemetirreehisg anyndiaptessore or re•
stemmed at that determinatims, he woo Mire they
would, on that very account. Oita it nocemety
to govern their toothier in suck a its so tie
preserve them *eat the remotest suspicion of say
thing but a determination to do jutiter. Iffe-woo
to charger hitnielt with theme* sfimiwisiollhigthit
measure which hoer bevies lievairy; did sow,
if the House would permit hip Its should pro.

post a motion for a &tore day, to be foood.o,
on her Majesty's Answer to the Ad.lre.s. fir
was NM that the House svonlil not now worn..
an exact espial:nion of the mess are stet wled. i,ut I.
would be if that dears; ition which would put it,
Queen, the lieven-and the remarry • fatly to tu...
session of the nature of the-charges Oil the tab's
and. if it could be done, to put the case ,io
• stare • of irartry • at out?: - have al'
those cberacterittice whita her Majesty cat:-,.
for. and would hoe' to a trrocerdirig perfectly
so& to be followed top by evideure of Ike
Ile Mist justify their proceedings, s•••• far as tor!
hid gone. and allude to the awkwerJors. that
might tosser if they did eat bear in mind I i t
.;.•
that both Houses of Parliament had the ,lihrct •
re/clime. 'placed. it was pos,ible that
might loot arrive at the same result; it was 1 ;kr, .
fore obstacle' to see in which !scotch ul. tire
tare the' questiou ought to originate. 'Flee
must see thetemberrebsing situation its which .1..,•
would be,placed if two messiest.. roe,. to he ft,.„ti,,,
together in IPstliantento—(Hoar, /ferre.l—tf..k
different would it be if both Houses h.d •
concurrently its consideriag whether or no tii. rett,:•
prima/tide ground for adopting farther
ings.o-fLood cries-of H•Heor"froia
belches./—lie thought that the Hoe. 3,lruthery
also einleted mast larva strangely mil' untied (hest
judgments if they did not see the l'ott.r of I,lt ci,•-
tsnetion he drew'between the two modes p:
tending. When he said this he begged 'holm • iy
to state. that solar from utilervaloing the judicial
functions constitutionally imposed upon the 1-It•we
of Commons. be knew toe well their valor, IOC i!y.
sod insportaucts; bat lie had ort hesitation el
sot -
ing. that. supposing 'loth Houses concori(ll ;it
their opening view of the situation in whir'i
case stood. and in their opinion upon the ft:mii.
course to be solicit, then lie thought that it
helmet advisable to watt a reassemble time, to see
what step the other /louse of Parliament would
take' and if it appeared equally calculated to reet,t
the legitimate ends of justice, he would sit!orot,
whether it would not be advisable to &dee up the
subject iu the•uonnier in which it stood su tine otnio
House, and await their judicial decision. His Ma-
jesty's Government. in the fine instance, oteatit, Ater
enbrnittingto a Committee the considers:mt. of w lie-
(her or so there was prints /act/ groluot accuse_
lion, then to slop and see what cans" would :,-taken
by the other brunch of the Legislator... ;: her
entertained that opinion in the first instaiirr, lice
much stronger did it not operate upon ti.eir
now after whet had since oceuered ?--!clear —li
realism' for giving this preference to the other
as the originator of the measure, were ot.naus, unit
chiefly rested upon their better means of ettforutoT_,
the elide of jollier. by the rare solemn fortn
inquiry which belonged to the species of nradie-
tion they exercised.—(Heer, Fear.)-..Whtti lie
said this, he was seedy at the same time to admit.
that so stride& charge, awl against trflizeett. ought
mot to rest upon Hie discretion of one branch of
the Legislature. He should therefore b lb
means advise that this Hoare should altogether
suspend its proceeding, ; on the cootraer, he
was reedy to name a day when he simuto
be prepared to submit a specific ground of pow
ceediug to their consideration. He taw now
tio COlBllB open for Parliament. but to proceed,
after the Avower returned by her Majesty to the
Address of that House on Saturday last. Thongs,
lie was now prepared with his notice of motion, yet
Ise begged it to be distinctly understood, that if iis
the lowlier any step Amid be taken in the other
House, which should be deemed by them advis-
able. he should peopowe that his notice should yield
to the meow data elsewhere. which 11C 1114111: theu
be induced to recommend for their adoptiou. Toe
House would see, that after the coinmunication
which had been made Items his Maj. sty, anti the
answer they had given to it, and the statement that
the papers on their :able contained matter of grate
charge against the character and conduct of tier
Majesty. and more particularly after the answer et
the Queen, they .owed it as a debt to iier Majesty
to enable het to bate these charges put into such a
shape, without delay. as would asriat her to meet.
them, and viudicate. as she pledged Herself to do.
the integrity of her character.--/Near, hear.)—
lie should now state what he thought it becoming
on the pet bf his Majesty's Governseent to do on
the prevent octanes,. He • was peepured ut her
Majesty's call to put the quettiths• us that toms
which would open it for the Queen's
His opinion undoubtedly Wm; that n. the first in-
stance. lit so grave and serious a matter as bring.
ing forward a heavy charge against a Queen. h:ss
Majesty's Ministers were bound to satisfy l'ar-•
liament at the MONO, that there was a pria
facie rise, which called for further 3nreetigation.
But they were now in a gaga degree relieved Ikon.
that difficulty by the demand made by tier !Thrives
ty to be allowed the Melds of establithing her in-
nocelbee. Ile should •aloft give notice that,. dna
, Thawed*, sennight, he would submit a specific
motion to the Howe on this subject. He trusted.
that tbty usald not now call upon him to explain
tbe precise nails* of his motion, but he hod us he-
sitation io soyir4 that is was for the purport of
pointing out, %litho*, delay. the made of isrquiry.
which oar den inevitable. lk however, the House
of Lordi should, before thursday aseuuight, adopt
any specific measure of which the House approved.
then ho should, instead of brining en htsdiscussicis
ea Thursday, notice that on the filday fol-
lowing (the shy after) he 'could submit a motion to
the flouite *lnch he trusted would be foetid tr.
titled to their concurrence. If, in the first 'Wont t•-•
the those should deny Mal the opportunity at e.-
stitutime the torpor!, in the manner he propose.t
so hosself ste Thawed/Iy, then he should he ready co
the Friday sifter to °pets Co the House his view of
the MALT; and to suggest on the part of his Ms-
jesty's aviiment the course whieli they deeded
ti most expedited to rtemodeleed to ratlietfieet fdr
the pompom Of cerrring tfile ielotry into complete
effect. Will referee& Co what had occurred
111,1141 in Patitament, it was quite inconnoteet
with tbe tact to ewers. theft iw the mutt' of the
kaiholiai it woe intentied.br Ileac to et' n't
of the question altOrther Ale bury it- in obtiviai,.
'flint coOtd fiat hive Gees the iateatims of the. 310
Kelbtiers who voted for the fieloluticu•of hualtre.
Fries! Wilhelfetor). sad lie' "SW elttvibted
that no **eh ioteottow vivid tittt &Wit etilttitterf
from. thy "pet a *hitt' rosel• hdr6tftretid ailbjeci
to their consideration. Indeed he thought it on.

impassible for itivasity to Waite any expreition
used' by his Ma. ?ilea (Mt. Wilberforce) into any
such meaning ; on the contrary, it was clear from
the whole iniiiort if bis f I tio.' Fr i e Ain speech, that
there was no alteniative Inlet(' agree to. Ills motion,
in the hope of obviating a further proceeding, and
in fact that with. the motion was operative, the
inquiry became inevitable.-:-(ffene, hear.)—To
soppr.ie that that motion extinguished inquiry, was
to make a supposition contrary to the fact, and he
was confident that not oi.ly were the words of the
Resolution agreed to on Thursday last highly pro-
per to themselves, but perfectly consistent with the
vow., which he thought it incumbent upon Parlia-
ment non to pursue. The Meisters had long felt
the delicacy and difficulty cof this question—surli
had been their impression long before the nrrival of
her Majesty in this country. They had satisfied
themselves that they owed a most sacred duty to the
Crown and lite country never to bring this discus-
MOD belcre Parliament or before soy • public tribe-
nal, if they could by any possibility neat the neces-
sity of a public discas.iou of it, with consistency
to themselves, nr with a proper sense of duty
towards their Sovereign.—(Hear. hear, hear.)—
They held indeed, in the words of the Revolution
agreed to by the Hoare. that the subject involved
" the dignity of thlllifbee, sad the best interests
of the people,' sod that the most prudential cau-
tion ought to mark their cooduct throughout an
delicate a subjeet.—(Hetir, Aeir.)—The House
would, he trusted, see that Ministers had acted
with this caution, and had not stirred the business
nut;! her Majesty's arrival left them no other alter-
native. There was no outlier course. he contend-
ed, left. when her Majesty in person denmoded
to be allowed the exercise of all those privileges,
which belonged of right, and also were conceded
to her as Queen of these realms, still less could
they new see any other course open to them
after the refusal of her Majesty to accede to the
expressed wish of that House-v.B wish wisely ex-
pressed, as authority to influence her Majesty's
opinion: certainly as good authority at least as that
arbitration to which her Majesty avowed her renal-
nes to submit her whole case.—(llear. hear.)-11e
repeated, it was clear no other course now but in-
! (miry remained open—aud an inquiry calculated to
prosecute the matter so es to attain the fall and
rigid ends er justice.—(Hear, hear.)—When he
said this, 1w did trust that the House, now that the
calamity of further inquiry could nut be warded
off—fikar. heerf--acalainity it certainly was, and
one most fatal in its consequences, should the
chairs be estabrished--one, however, that they li
I had the consolation of knowing was brought on by
Co act of theirs.—(Hear, htar.)—Sull he trusted.
that in COMMenciag this inclotry they would forget
the refusal of the Queen to accede to their recom-
mendation.—(blear, hear.)—lle hoped that in fol-
lowing up tins busiures they would resume their
ancient character for justice, for dignity, and too-
elevation, and that now at least they would stiffer
the party to sleep—(Loud cheer)—and divest
themselves of every feeling of an angry character.
'sod ef that tone of asperity which, though it did
belong to politics, dad not to justice.—(Load
ekeers.)--He- earnestly trusted that the dignity of
their Omens-tee would mark every step they took io
this proceeding. and that their acts throughout
would illustrate the feeling which guides'. them,
and which could. be knew, be nothing else than an
attainos desire to promote the turfs of justice, in
that.pure and impartial manner in which they had
been invariably prosecuted in this country. The
Noble Lord concluded by giving notice. that on
The:misty sennight he would submit • specific
motion in the House, gruuuded on the Queen's
Answer to the Resolution submitted to her Mu.
jeoy on the part of that House. If. however, any
step eras in the interim taken elsewhere, which it
'mold be more offloa:tie to take up, instead of
unginatingl'a distinct ',melanin, he should MI the Fri-
day submit a proposition founded upon that to the
Bar•e.--(llear, hear.)
Mr. Baal/Guam then rose, and spoke nest,!y as
Jailors entirely concur in one recommenda-
tion which has bees seriously and solemnly urged
by the Noble Lord, and also, from the bottom of
my 'lran. in his strong appeal in winch he has
implored us. ato all sides ut the House (stud tits
Aiikul must surely have weight), from this hour and
heiseetorth throughout this wow saavitable investi-
gation, t.. starer tlw voiced patty to sleep—to let
!IL political prejorlice, of whatever kiwi. iufluenee
cur jodgmruts—to allow, as it were; roo shadow to
was. iso to our path towards the attunimeet of pare
:sad substantial jinitisae in this delicate and difficult
C4kC.-111:keers.)—On the part of the Queen, 1, as
..he of her legal advisers, have to express let
Majesty's infinite satisfaction at this appeal made
tit the Noble Loral, and at his promise of a speci-
fic motion for judicial inquiry. His opinion of tlw
necessity of that inquiry, after what has passed, is
only the reflected shadow of her Majesty's own
emotion of that uecessity. after the proceedings
'itch have wow taken place.—t Hear, hear.)—Her
Majesty now rejoices that she has at length a
i chases of obtaining justice—that there is limy an
end to a system of nark, inquisitorial, unjust, and,
.1 will ray, illegal proceedings so loin, carried ou
against her—(icar, hear)—that there is au end
tu the steps contemplated by Ministers upon their
Ing, ant to the IletP:t course which was inteeded to
built on that foundation, and instituted against
the illustrious Princess who had been the object of
so mucus indirect aoo iuslt1011.—(1/eur)--1 have Wit
to wank the Noble Lord fur her Majesty's 1,3'44;
•his opportunity of vindicating her character ; brit
•t is hi the Parliament of the coutitry I owe. the
nbligation. whatever it be—to Mt MCC alone.
-WI 1 may say almost emaitiosouvly expressed, ant 1
tottebitti for the ...ircumstattee that that inquiry by
'tie green beg is not now to take place in the
:arni .n which it phrased his Alsjests'a Ministers
50 teitriolosee it.— ( Hear, hear, hear.)—Greatly
46 herr often admired the Noble Lord's
ivlehts o. debate, I (sever till V.lligist was aware
t/I iiie great talent of his vitality, subtlety, and
tut at now, according to the Noble Lord,
.iopeets that re are not to go into this inquiry in
'he "'dr Peat first recommended—not because the
hiag's Message called our impeitously
trio question—not in consequence of the pro.
verstings already had its Parliament—nu, not even
the. 11;g11 purposes °finance. our in compliatiee
atilt the •nctistes of any overruling state of Heim.
sat! —isso, iwt for all these, but simply foe this 4Pgie
airs: soi,paraosouto ressoost, because hot Saturday

her Majesty Perpitsted that her appeal fur justice
should not be disiegsrded.•—( Loud rAters.)—And
whet did her Majesty assert list Saturday which
seems to have had such a sadden and powerful in-
fluence upon the Noble Lord's judgment ? She
said on qziturday only what she has been ',lying
from Vie beginning, • I defy all secret inquiry. I
put myself upon Parliament 'and my country for
an open trial, and with ttte spirit of ■u injured slid
insulted Princess, I demand a public opportunity of
hearing my charge, being confronted with my
accusers, and being allowed the means of establish-
ing my innocence.'—llas her Majesty not said sa
front the beginning?—(Hear, /.ear.)—Did she re-
serve this declaration until last Saturday ?—/Near,
hear.j—Flan the Noble Lord so soon forgotten the
Message which I had the honour myself of bring-
ing down from the Queen, and which was ill the
following words :

" This day foterteen years the fint charge was prefe►red
against her Majesty; then, and on every occasion since that
lime, she has manifested the utmost readiness to 'met lies
accusers, and to hare the tallest inquiry instituted ,nto her
conduct. Now also she desires an open investigation intuit,
in wh:ch she mny see the charms against her, the accusers
and witnesses--(Hear)-11 privilege out denied to the hum-
blest indirzdual in the realm.'—•(//eter, Agar.)

IVhy then did the Noble Lord, a fortnight ago and
more, agree to an open inquiry ? This Message came
down from the Queen on the 7th of June, in which
she defied her secret accusers, and challenged and
courted, nay even entreated, full and Fair investiga-
tion. At that time the Noble Lord evaded her
defiance, refused her challenge, denied her demand,
and would not listen to her entreaty.—(Hear,
hear.)—Something, however, had since passed which
had soothed his Lordship's temper, end made him
more compliant.—(Hear.)—At that time the Noble
Lord could approach the minter with more deter-
mination and less gravity; he did not then talk of
the necessity in so grave a cast as the accusa-
tion of a Queen, of laying a prima facie case.
A subject could not, then, put his Queen on trial
without the preparatory aid of a Secret Committee—
aye, of at Committee, the whole constitution and
inquiry of which by the means of a green bag, in
the manner proposed, was a violation in form, in
substance, and in letter, of justice and of law.—
(Hear. hear.)—All that part ot the frame of the
inquiry is nose altered. because the Qfteen has
asked for a full, and fair, lutd publig *Si*: and
the Noble Lord, in his gallantry —(Altesilt
not refuse her desire. As 1 have already remarked,
the Noble Lord has shewn greater dexterity than
1 ever saw him use on any former occasion, in shift.
lug his ground to accommodate hiniself to the new
situation in whirls Parliament has placed this ques-
tion.—(!leaf, hear.)—The Queen demands a pub-
lic inquiry, she can have no other; she always
courts that, she waists nothing else—(Hear.)—On
that she was fearlessly prepared to stand or hill.—
(Heers.)—Fiff my part. I have had no communi-
cation with the Noble Lord during this business,
except the interchange in the whole of about three
sentences, winch had nothing in them of a cotifiden.
tial nature at either side. 1 am therefore now to
csteh at the Noble Lord's meaning lima what I can
collect of his speech. I understand he contemplates
a specific motion on Thursday or Friday sennight ;
host that, at present, as it is contingent upon proceed-
ings clseabere, it must in its nature be as yet iu some
degree vague and indefinite. He says, indeed. that
her Majesty is the first Princess of the House of
Brunsw►ck who ever turned a deaf ear to the advice
of Parliament, solemnly and specifically expressed
by so large a number as 39; of its members.—
He might have added 100 more to his numbers.—
he might have said the voice of nearly 500, for to
that number do I believe the concurrence went in
the recommendation to her Majesty, though of them
many disapproved of the omission of the Queen's
name its the Liturgy. But what said the memor-
able liesolutiou of this House upon the inquiry
called for by the. King's Ministers ? it said that this
inquiry would he •• disappointing to the hopes of
Parliament, derogatory from the dignity of the
Crown, and injurious to the best interests of the
empire."—(Cries of Hear. hear. hear.)—Was this
wtyvig that the alternative was the inquiry pro-
posed, or was it nut plainly implying that such an
inquire would not be tolerated by Parliament.—
The Queen, however. does not object to a fair
and bill inquiry, nor can I. as her legal adviser, in
any manner start any thing which can be construed
into any pleb objection. But I wish to recoil the
[louse to the plan common sense of the Resolution
it has already passed. We have said in plain
terms, that this inquiry, whether it be necessary or
whether it he needless, is out now to take place.
This we have said by a large majority, in a meeting
of almost unexampled isuinbers, and intimated that
the consequences of such an inquiry must be inju-
rious to the best interests of the country ; so that
we ought, before we go on any further, to consider
the situation in which we are placed. First Manis-
tee come down unit propose an iiiquiry by a Se-
cret Committee they will have no other. The
next day they come down, and think there is no
better way of getting rid of this inquiry than by
saying it is fraught with every thing derogatory. to
our best interests. The Noble Lord may call all
this consistent. Whether the House is prepared to
sae mat the necessity of inquiry exists notwith-
standing whet has occurred, is another question.
All we know of that necessity arises out of the im-
putation cast upon the Queen, that it is her fault if
inquiry hallows—for sloe came to England, after
31111141er, toll' her not to come, mid by so disobey.
hug induced the painful necessity of the proceed-
ings now on the eve of being instituted against leer.
Her arrival in this country then is what has brought
down a►h this investigatiou upon her Majesty's head,
and it is Isecanse she lasso arrived. contrary to the de-
sire of bas Majesty's Ministerr, that they are about
to institute an inquiry against her, which the House
bas already said. •• is derogatory from the dignity
of the Crown, and injurious to the best interests of
the einiare."—(Hear, hoer.)—This was a question
mot for the Queen to consider, nor for me as her
legal adviser to stop tit. but for the House to
reflect upon in the situation in which it had
placed itself.—(Hear. hear. hear.)—Whether tier
Majesty's rejection of the recommendation of this
House was the course brat calculated to secure fur
her our 'trisect and confidence, I shall not now
stop to disease—whether that rejection was "rise or
nitwit', I am Srot-to'dereittiitte. But I am bound
so my conscience to state to the Hotta what Ism
now about to mention, and which I do with a so-
lemn assurance; and 1 make it not for theexculp•tion

of the Queen, *here it is not the iubject of aitack,
or to shake of upon other shoulders that 'mono..
Vilify which her Majesty's legal advisers would pre-
fer to bear theruseltei taut I repeat 'I am bound
to mention what I 'am about to slate, for the sake
of the character and honour of the Queen. Before
her Majesty was laid au accurate view of the souls
lion in which her case stood in Parliament. toge-
ther with the whole of the proceedings that had been
taken upon it; together with this, the Queen was
put in possession of every particsilar respecting the
late neg.ociation, ait the note io which her
case stood diet'. as compared. with its preceding
station; and oboe all, the Queen was fully im-
pressed with the state in which her ease Would stand
in the event of her refusal of the recommendation of
Parliament. Every fact coonected with surly as
state, even entering into the most minute detail,
was submitted to her Majesty. and the most perfect
conviction was established upon her mind. that a re-
Noll of the suggestion of Parliament must Mesita.
bly lead to is full investigation.—(Hear, hear.)—
With all those facts. then, before her. and most
fully brought under her calmest consideration,
she unhesitatingly and firmly, and at once, chose
her own course, and did it with that fearless,
and ingenuous confidence, which in the history of
the springs of human action nothing but the full
consciousness of innocence ever did or ever can in-
spire—she did, I solemnly declere, of herself coo.
fidently and steadily resolve to abide all the con-
sequences that could by possibility front
that refusal which is now recorded.—(lfear.)
I will first ask of the House, and I know I am ad-
dressing Gentlemen of honour, not to judge harshly
of her Majesty's refusal to listen to their advice.—
(.Loud cries of War: in tokicA Lord Crinlereagh
was eery audible.)—She may be, as the Noble
Lord but said, the first member of the family of
Brunswick who has ever refused 'to listen to the '
serious, and, as lie says, wisely-directed voice of
Parliament ; hut let us also recollect that she is
the first Member of the HOuse of Brunswick, that
she is the first Queen of England, aye, the first Qoeen
in Christendom, who has ever been placed in this
most painful and most pectiliar situation....-(llear.)
—Parliament has often appniirohert Kings and
Queens of this realm with congratulatory Ad-
dressee. often too with Addresses not altogether
complimentsry, but requiring the dismissal of
some Royal favourite ; but this is the lint time in
our Annals the sacrjfice of privide feeling called
for involved altogether u full -sense of personal
character. If the Queen felt that her acceptance
of the recommendation of this House involved
upon her part this sacrifice, so feeling she had • right
to abide by the dictates of her own breast.--(Hear)--
How could she lie called upini to give up her sense
of honour ?—(and if she felt her acceptance of the
recommendation, though not meant by the (loose
as such, did imply such a surrender, I again say
she hail a right to judge for herself in n quest ;on
altogether of feeliug)—how, I w.v. could she be
called upon to give up that sense of honour, which
men even in their transactions in life will not, tinder
certain circumstances, suffer to be made matter even
of negociation ?—(Heaso hear.)—if then we would,
in our individual situations, stand upon such
punctilios. how much greater onght to be the allow-
ance
we should make to a female, who Us every view
of comparative situation. stood so mach more in
need of upholding the character and dignity of her
sex and station ?—(Hear,itear.)—Shefelt she could
not make this concession without a sacrifice of
feeling. which her Pew of character and honour
forbade—( Hear, lreorl—vand the House will, I am
sure, appreciate that feeling on the part of the
Queen.—(Htar, hear.f—Av to the course which
the Noble Lord shall recommend on Thursday of
Friday se'nnight. to me, as one of the legal ad-
visers of the Queen, it is matter of indifference
whether the proceeding shall be by Bill or other-
wise; whether the evidence shall he taken from the
papers on the table, or from the months of half a
dozen witnesses. Whet I wish, however, at this
moment to impress upon the attention of this
(louse is, that if the pi riceeilino to be instituted
a fortnight hence be then commenced, and that it
be an open proceeding, or even u close one,
which I think will be so nitwit the worse, an
ex-parte statement must go forth througlt the
ordinary and extraordinary channels of intel-
ligence, traaccompanied by the facts end expla.
nations of the defence, which, cannot fail to be
highly injurious to the party on trial. I know
it may be said, that if the logo ry he sit lino pre-
liminary. and the opening facts of the prosecution
intrusted to a Committee of twenty-one Gentlemen
here. and 15 elsewhere, there can he no fear of pre-
judicial disclosures pending the inquiry. Now,
without me: g to cast the slightest blemish upon
the integrity of any one of these Gentlemen, I hope
I may be permitted to say, that die best
step to secure secrecy to any proceeding, is not for
15 Gentlemen in one place to call upon 21 Gen-
tlemen iu another to assist them in keeping
it.—( Laughter, and cries o/'" I !ear, hear." )
There is an old maxim which has generally received
credence. namely, that the more you intrust with
your secret, the less will keep it. lint even without
looking at the matter in the view of its possible
liability to any prejudicial disclosure, I will ask any
Gentleman who hears me, how lie should like to
have statements affecting the character of his wife,
or any other female in his family. intrusted for a
mouth or two to six-and-thirty Gentlemen (how-
ever respectably). before that wile or that female
could hive an opportunity of vindicating lire cha-
racter and establishing her innocence?—(Hear.)—
It was morally impossible that all this time the case
should be kept in impenetrable seeresy ; it should
he recollected that tit all probability the six-ando
thirty gentlemen hail wives and daughters of their
own, and it was morally impossible to prevent some
little drop of the secret from leaking out through
some one of the numerous orifices—(Laughter,)—
that were open for its liability to escape-1 mean
those peculiar orifices always open for time egress of
secrets—the months of the parties possessing such
eoulidrntial depositr.—(Hear, hear.)—If the M.
spiry be an open one. the case kr the prosecution,
it originated before the Detention's case and wit.
news can he entered into by Counsel, will go forth
to the world with more or less accuracy, and the
venom of it will assuredly be disseminated.—.
(Hew. hear.)—Let the /louse then ligure to itself
the filatoio inevitable ruin of character which such
au ,r:-prate publicity must induce—all chance of
fair trial is thus virtually abolished, if three mouths

are to elapse between the promulgation of the
charges awl the hearing of the defence. You will
see then, that what I recommend, in *hewing the
necmaity of bringing the defence,, in peon of time,
nearer the hour of charge, will not upon the whole
delay one hour the ultimate decision orParlianient.
I claim for the Queen this arrangement of the
proceedings in her case, because it is the uhriour
one which is calculated to attain the ends of sub-
stential justice, and to secure the pirty on trial
the jolt advantage of an unprejudiced defence.—
fllear.)--Let the two points of the inquiry come
closer, and then all is dour that is wanted. The
Queen will necessarily Ire put in possession of tbe
specific charge, arid the names of the witnesses who
are to enppovt it. She will have then to instruct her
Counsel, 'pot them in possession of the facts
winch her witnesses can establish. Tlie House
win see, that her Majeaty'" Counsel cannot put
one rpealion in cross.examinatims to a single wit.
nes. for the prosecution, until they are made RC.
tin:tinled with all that is to be said by the wit-
ne,ses for tile il.rfencr. In throwing mit Utile
suggestions flue. 111hink.19011tiot nitematigel fi um
des:r(oll.4 to avoid hereafter *skies' for any delay os
delay, hut what I ask now is ant. mate Howie will
see, with, soy ding like Fp equivocal iaientiOn.
1 entreat every.Clentlemssi wisp heirs inc will waif)]
well in his mind these last obiervatious I hare felt
it my duty to make regarding the jug tenor of our
future proceedings ; let him maturely reflect upon
them, and route prepared for their fuller convidens.
tina at a future petit". I shalt now conclude by
congrutulating ou the part, of her Mrksty, the
House, and the country, on the open inquiry which
seems to best last on the eve of being granted to the
Queen..WitiOlie feelings suid spirit of an innocent
ond injured swoons's. her Majesty has uniformly
called for this just privilege. She was never afraid
to meet a full and open inquiry; on the contrary.
from beginning to end, this is all she has ever de.
ei.red. More she itever asked—less she ought not
to have."
Colonel PALSIFR rose, but the noise made by
Members retiring from the House at this period of
the evening rendered his opening observations in-
audible, He said, that if he thought the'interesis
of the Crown and the country required this inqui-
ry, he should be the Orst *to go into it; but as he,
on the, contrary, thought that such an inqisify,:ao
far from being beneficial, would be " &maim
from the dignity of the Croon, and injuring'
to the best interests of the empire," he should
object to its being entered upon by Cie House.
%Vali respect to the omission of the. Queens
name in the Liturgy. he thought it an insult which
Goiernment were. bound to wipe away by doing
justice to the Queen, for having thus exposed her
to the observations of the mainfold emirnotions
in cvere to,vii, village, mod parish , throughout
kingdom.—/!near, hear, drawl—He then
pointeiilv animadverted upon what he termed In be
the unaccountable inconsistency of the /tight Hon.
Gentleman opposite (Mr. Canning), who, notwitb•
standing his eloquent entogietn upon (ter Majesty,
whom he described as "the grace, and life.and OMR-
ment of female society," could nevertheless continue
a part of that Cobinet which determined to per•
severe in making her the object of prosecution,.
He was sorry that the Right Honourable Gentle.
man, instead of alluding to his feelings on this
occasion, did not art upon them, and take a dif-
ferent and more consistent cotirse,—((lear, hrar.)—
Allasions had been made to the practice of Parlia-
ment. nod in particular to the cast of the Duke of
York ; but where was the similarity in the eases ?
In the last the country loudly called for inquiry, in
the present they as loudly protested against it.—
He thought shpt, tinder such circumstances, Par-
Insolent ought not to embark 41 a case of so much
difficulty, and one upon the impoliry of prose-
cuting which they had already promounced so
strong an opinion.—(dear, hear.) •
Mr. 13RAGGE BATHURST justified the course
taken by his Majesty's Atingle,' in this painful and
delicate case.

Mr. WESTERN said, lie took this Opportunity of
enteriii; his protest against the motion of the Noble
Lord, and would briefly state his reasons why he
could not concur with hint in the proceeding now
proposed. Principally lie could not aver. because
the effect would be indirectly to pleil4e the. House
to on inquiry, against which the sense of the whole
country, and the %ruse of the House itself, also
wits expressed on the first night of the debate upon
it. The Noble Lord hail, in adverting to the pro-
ceeding to he instituted, mated it, on the one
hand, us a crimtaal inquiry, and at the ',ante time
had described it as capable of amicable adjust.
merit and compromise. This was an anorna.
lous proceeding, to bring forward a criminal charge,
and at the same time to say it Will capable of ami-
cable adjustment ; the common sense of the coon.
try have twonoonced on that stateinent.—(Hear„
hear.)--Though the House was placed in a :-itua.
tion of great difficulty by the conduct of the
Noble Lord, it had up to that moment, in his opi.
nion, maintained its character and dignity. He had
hoped that the resolutions of that (louse presented to
her Majesty might have been acquiesced in by her,
hut it was a point on which of course her Majesty
must herself decide. At present the motion of ed.
journment assumed quite a new aspect, and did,
in his opinion, give an apparent approbation of
that Committee which the Noble Lord hail cod-
ed upon them to appoint; but be entreated the
House not to mix itself up, or become a party In
any proceedings adopted, or to be adopted in an-
other place. And why should there be an adjourn-
ment till Thursday se'tiniglit ?—(Bear, hear.)--
lie had himself departed from his own proceeding.
—(Hear, hear.)-1-le ought to have come down
with his new project, mid left the I-louse to decide
if further time were necessary. lie felt a difficulty
how to shape his opposition—whether to move as ass
amendment the further consideration of the gars.
tion till that day six muliths.—(l fear, hear, hear.)—
The lion. ;'.)ember concluded by moviiig, that the
delete should be adjourned till that day MI mouths.
Mr. Si. C. WHITUREAD objected to the whole of
the proceedings of the Noble Lord, and more par-
ticularly was he hostile to the measure proposed)
that night. because he thought that by nieans. of it
lie was endeavouring to delude the House jlllO
some sort of 'auction for his proceedings—(Hear.)
—On the former night he had been induced to op-
pose the Resolution proposed by the Hon. Member
fur Bromberg because he thought that whtu stated

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in plain words, it called upon her Majesty to ac-
knowledge herself guilty. •
• Mr. TIERNEY staid he thou-At the resell R
Most important question. it. it affected the &gime
of the House. 'Before entering on that be must
explain a toistakewhich the Noble Lord ((7asite-
reagh) bad fallen into relating in hint personally.
The Noble Lord, it appeared, via. eholit to eerie
the vier into his quarters. from whit Ii lie
hail raved• himself by a drape ef. the head
fie (Mr. Tierney) was *peaking to an Hon. Frestrl
"Or him• wbeu the Noble Lord rovweired lie
was speaking on the debate of the former eight.
He then shook his head to rimers hi•, dissent. so
signify that he was mistaken. and the Noble Law!
then turned round end complimented bun an, her.
ing abandoned his former objet3/4:000. whic:l,
tv,.e equally mistaken. The latter womb of the
solsitioii of the Hon. Gentleman ()Ir. W;llbee-horre
were the most ex t room! !nary that ever Maunder (let the
situation of the Noble Lord)• agreed to. The in-
(laity was deprecated as " derogutory from the die-
tiny of the Crown, cool 'mintier' the best
trona* of the empire." The Noble Lortt Might
explain it hr seyiroz, that e amy improper ceusluct •rf
it member of the Royal Fundy must derogate from
the dignity of the Crown. Ile (Mr. T.) had 'tete.-
roared to get from the lion. litomher for Bram-
her floe precise meat tug which he bed attitehest to
these words, but in flint endeavour he had failed.
Hut from the goad sense of the Noble Lord lie • tie
perm/stied that. had he had an opnorturily afforded
him of perusing the Reirsloolass, fir wenl.t s•rrtaiclr
have suggested some change n, timer wordy.. in
his opiuton, they did entirely preclude the Hoene
from further proceeding; end lw believed that
those Gentlemen who hid voted for that Hegedus:
lion did not mean that soy further proceeding
should be had. He slid gate them credit for that:
But it now appeared the !louse waist's be absolved
from the difficulty be the questiois brine me erLin
smother place, where undoobteilly nothing had been
done to prevent their se proceeding. As ilw gum-
bon affected the-dignity of the Ilinter, he thought
U was it,. meth for the Noble Loud to come Aorta,
and *Pk the House toredopt that precise line acmes
duet which, so far as he could see thermal' the
which the Noble Lord was so skilful sit erecting, see.
exactly calculated to bring him nut of the difficoltiea
in which he was involved. The Noble Lord was asked
on Saturday no to the spetatir course which he weird
to 'pursue, hut he gulve eser answer; soil for • good
reason, because he did not then know what cruise
he "boob! adopt. Now indeed the Nol.le Lord
says. "-Let nse adjourn this matter to Frislity, be.
canoe on Thnrschry I naafi to make a eroposnitni
eatirely distinct from what 1 before uremia to
mike ; but doer% be too sure tied I shall their
make it; beeisene it would depend on a proceeding.
in another place, winch may reader it unneewsary.l.'
Su that the further proceeding of the Noble Lord
rested on two contingencies ; he woulal not sot-
that it wee not expedient for the Nohle Loral so tei
proceed, but the House woold be dee:raged °Arts
they oinked on their Journals soinereirson for their
adopting it..—(Hear. hear, hoes Mr. irinne.)—ltle
was glad to hear the voice el tits Hon. Frtend, ache.
being so conversant on the rebject of the proceed.
begs of thet Hoow, might avergesewseretr weuM is
the proper entry to niske on tlwie Jo is.
now the Noble Lord beats oboist the bud,. arid
talks of a motion which •be never intended to
mike, for they were now in the situation, ebee,
according to the old saying.," es • one georl tern
deserved another," for the last three weeks the
Lords had been waiting fee that House. islet Doti it
seemed they were to retorts the edmilliment end
wait for them. On thif head of coterie ite knew
nothing except from the public prints. whieb,
rinmelinw or the ether, were accpciiiitiet with the
proecedings of that !louse. All this teethed
from the Alii!i•itere neglect of the only iiitefligible
iiroiconioo %sloe', lie had heard, awl ilia: was. teat
they should havtt.iken tli-.reenonsihdity of proceed-
thoinseires.l'be Noble Lori slid, that the ?pro,-
melon or the table was not with a view to .13;Iiinft
a charge, but to see inhere wet a charge to support,
and they might proceed by way of impeachment. di-
vorce, or they might say there was no emend tit
any proceeding whatever. And did they drat end
that a dignified way of prosecuting lir 6riverienent
against secs less a personage than the Queen of ties(.
realma?—(Hette, hear, hear.)—The proceralMgeow
proposed was tnost indecorous% to her Mijesiy. a.
well as to the Crown? At firm it arnesrra lute
Noble 1. end entertained doubts how far hr had
evidence to aohstanditte the eisarges—craw ,t
alive:vs he riot no doubt about it ; of so, why Ira..
not the pri:sent proceeding adopted • mouth ago ?
it must have beets knew,, throw. well as and
the Noble Lord was either trifling then, or he de-
served not to br believed at present. lie mutt
assume that of leer Majesty, which the law as-
sumed of every person under accusation till found
guilty. that was that she is intweeed., Ifreagreed
with his Honourable Friend (Mr. Wertern) !het
the whole of the country was agaiest the Perm:.
inquiry, but he defied the' wit a Ul3ll to devise a
mode inure dexterous for pLICI 11,.• every nortyris (Life'
culties than thecourse atlupted by the Nottie Lord,
and all *rising from the Wahl 1.1 is definite place.
But, the Noble Lord says, it kid fur mouths beta,
the object of Ina Majesty's Goversinwiit to prevent
this inquiry; but he (Mr. I'ierney) knew sot why
it should be so; if they had evidence tworabstieu.
tiate the accusations, why they should desire tapsel
vent it he could not coiscrive.—(Heer, Gear.)—Hr
aliould like to litiow when the Cissurni*..
sign was sent out, for there rnop.t i:ave herein
previously to that a charge preferr.d by some 4.er-
lous or other. When did the evidence arrive in tln,
country ? It mast loser !well 12 innoths in their
punsession. and the charge known for so ;wig
period. What then were they its think of the dug-.
Hoy of the Crown, in ratkrang her Jlajesty to tete.
eel emit in foreign Courts with such a charge
hanging over her ; wed why was it at halt brought
forward
wcause thee illustrious Individual bad
become Queen; and it was on the quit-boos of a
provision for her that the subject was hunt son-
boned ; and then it was not done its • mealy
way, avowing to her Majesty that they
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