The Sun.
London, England, 1855-07-06 00:00:00

[LEFT SPEAKING."

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(THIS EVENING.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
The Lords' amendment of the Staines, Wokingharn,
and Woking Railway (Alteration, &c.) Bill was con-
sidered and agreed to.
The Livesey's Estate Biil was read a second time.
EDUCATION BILL.
Mr. HADFIELD presented a petition from the
bankers, merchants, and other inhabitants of Glasgow,
against the Lord Advocate's Education Bill, which they
considered unjust and uncalled for. On the motion of
the hon. gentleman, the petition was laid upon the table.
NEW WRITS.
On the motion of Mr. HAYTER a new writ was
ordered for Cheltenham in. the room of Mr. C. Berkeley,
deceased, and for Evesham, in the room of Mr. Granville
Berkeley, who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds.
SCOTCH EDUCATION BILL.
In reply to a question from Mr. HADFIELD,
The LORD-ADVOCATE said he should bring on
the discussion on this bill as early to-night as the busi-
ness of the house would permit.
ROYAL ENGINEERS
Mr. PERCY rose to ask the Secretary of the Ord-
nance whether it was true that a. circular was sent iu
February last by Sir Hew Ross to the head masters of
some of the principal schools, inviting them to
send up the names of some of their pupils for the
Royal Engineers or Artillery, and promising that 30
commissions should be distributed among them ;
whether the names of 40 pupils were not sent up accord-
iagly on the faith of that promise ; and whether, not-
withstanding that promise, the 40 pupils so sent up
from schools wereto be subjected to competition with the
300 or 400 persons, from 17 to 21 years of age, who,
by open competitive examination, are to be selected ac-
cording to the arrangement contained in the advertise-
ment, dated the Ilth day of June, 1855, and signed by
the Secret.:ry of the Ordnance !
ljr. 11ONSELL said when it was determined to ap-
point a certain number of young gentlemen to the Royal
Aeade
to be nIY at Woolwich, Sir Hew Ross caused a letter
sent to some public schools, to say that such an
arrengeinent as that alluded to was in contemplation,
and to ask •
After
Bask if they were willing to avail themselves of it.
pabniu'ye.? further correspondence on the subject, Lord
young note determined to consider the case of those
Pry who had come up and to afford them every
EXPLOSIvoREI,INVENTIONS OF THE RUSSIANS.
Captain seO.B.,PUNDONALD'S PLAN.
Treasury, a, th MA, rose to ask the First Lord of the
t 3 employ d:, Russian authorities did not scruple
devices for thee'Stating explosive inventions and
eels and crews or rue of destroying the yes-
Government intend sticier Majesty's fleet, did the
liatory means as thelieto refrain from using such reta-
for what reason ?
tliat their disposal, and, if so,
to whom the Govern the or other persons
mina the Earl of Dundonaldad referred the plan of Ad-
for the destruction of forti-
fications afforded to him, as is in such cases, a
personal opportunity of exolar
i nc.: to them its mode of
application, and the grounds onn
edly stated his confidence in its w,hoicill he has so repeat-
Sir C. WOOD said, that withr;.:itfsi?
to the first per-
oul,eicrne answering
tion of the question he must be
be exceedingly
it at all, as it must be obvious it vii
inconvenient to state to the enemies of th
ooade)dwbeen re-
eve intended to do. [Hear, hear.) \\Tiele, u°"'ArY what
aK at the
question as to Lord Dundonald'e plan, it regard to the
ferrad to a committee before he (Sir C. W
admiralty, and there could not be the slightest teed of
afferding Lord Dundoea!d means of explanation „(
what w-ais so obvious to the committee. (Hear) -.
PROPOSED INCREASED PAY OF THE A.ll.My,
Lord SEYMOUR -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Stated
that the plan for the proposed increased pay of the
army while on service in the Crimea was now under
the consideration of Government.
In reply to a question,
paidthat with regard to any
Lord PALMERSTON
correspondence between the Papal see and Sardinia, it
was impossible for the Government to comply with his
tegneat, to give the inform ation asked.
OF THE POLICE.
s. THE CONDUCT
fair J, sHELLEY asked the Home Secretary of Slate
'''whether it way his intention, after the allegations made
an the petition presented to the house yesterday respect-
ing the
conduct of the police on Sunday in Ilydtepark,
to institute a are
Sir G'1.7.011741; -bin-
I said.g"-nvestigation into their conduct ?
yet to investi.7lt de in those petitions,
GREY' Le had not been able
and repeatee‘th' the
charges Ina_
with reference to statements made by him yesterday
He had re-
ceived a nember of cee
conduct of
duct of the police.
persons, some
comPtaicing of the erepresentations from ap-
pr6ving it. and others
Mr. DIINCOMRE to 1., the police,
journment of the hon's, -7,?. in order, moved the ad-
be searching s
an- to sati,te;-trghter.) The inquiry to
which the public should. le;,s-e Public must be one to
from the Chief Superinteeed ac:cess. A mere report
Home-office he thought ~...;),Tt of police or the
satisfactory by the people. L4+, considers.
allot
be consider:ed
pointed for the purpose of inquirin 'utui'?,lon be ap-
that had been made against the poigicinto the alle,tions
to examine witnesses, and hear perea,or with
a I %II '1;0 wer ''
or counsel, when he lad no do
11ubt -Y
theeeives
would-- he fully stibetantiated.
...he ' the chatges
tioned by the Secretary of St:ate wouldln Lonna,
to farce in the eyes of the public. wit!,
tu what be had read of the soldiers and the lieerl-er"-''`l
tary's reply that the commanding offic2r or comm ""u 5ea4,,,T%
thanked the police for what they had do " ne, the OE6t,
was only a sergeant.
Sir G. GREY—I am not aware that, that was the eaee
Mr. BUNCOMBE said what he wanted to lir,
t',;
was, what bad been done to those.reen? If by crying
shame .on the police in the park for their Conduet to
females they bad committed an offence against the civil
power, they ought to be ; a
Pureshea as well as men
seLo wore fustian jackets. The honourable' mem-
ber referred to a letter written by the senior rum ate
of St. Botolph, with reference to the Sunday
Trading Bill, which,if true, showed the metrop,A4 to be
in great danger. It was from a minister of tge Go.pel
of peace this description came, and who stated that
th) Pil le of the distrkt of Hcoandsditch if e r e thy met

degraded ruffians that could be found in the metropolis.
He believed the people.would have been peaceable last
Sunday had the police left them alone. Some
of the people who assembled there on that
day bad probably never been there before, from the ex-
pression they used, because they were heard to say they
had never seen so nice a place. Victoria Park was
nothing to be compared to it, and they should visit it
again. He warned them against keeping the people
out of the Park again, for should they again
visit it, and meet with obstruction from the
police, they would proceed, no doubt, to enforce
their right. (Hear, heir.) If it was too late at this
period of the session to appoint &commission to examine
into the matter, he hoped that an inquiry thetaost
stringent would next session be instituted into the con-
duct of the police. _ _ _

Sir G. GREY said he had never proposed any specific
or formal mode of inquiry into the proceedings in Hyde-
park on Sunday, but, as he had promised, a full, com-
plete, and searching inquiry should be made with regal 41
to the conduct of the police on that occasion. (Hear,
hear.) The honourable member (Mr. Duncombe) pre-
sumed that the inquiry was to be conducted
under the auspices of the Home-office, or under the sur-
veillance of the police ; but such was certainly not his
(Sir G. Grey's) view when he first proposed the inquiry,
and further, the hon. member bad acted very unjustly
in leaving it to be inferred that the inquiry would ba
one of a partial and unsatisfactory nature. He (Sir G.
Grey) pledged himself that the inquiry should be con-
ducted in a manner which would be perfectly satisfac-
tory to the public. In justice to the police, he
felt bound to say that if the public went to the
Park for the purpose of conducting themselves
properly and peaceably the police would protect them ;
bat if they went there for a contrary purpose, the police,
they might depend, would be ever ready to do their duty
without fear either of intimidation or misrepresentation.
After a few words from Mr. DUNCOMBE in reply,
Col. LINDSAY, in defence of the soldiers alluded to,
said that soldiers would never be found opposing the
police in the execution of their duty. (Hear, hear.)

Mr. J. W. FOX said there was no blame whatever
attached to the soldiers ; but when the promised inquiry
took place he should be prepared to furnish the names of
several respectable men, who were witnesses to the
police striking old inoffensive men, walking quietly
along, and also striking women and 'children. One
gentleman, a clergyman, was walking accidentally
along, and he told him (Mr. Fox) that he saw the
police strike people with great and unprovoked fury,
and when he (the clergyman) began to address the
police, remonstrating with them, there was such
a threatening attitude assumed by the police
towards him that he thought it more prudent
to make a rapid retreat. He would take that oppor-
tunity of saying that he bad received a communication
from Houndsditch relative to the statements made in
that house by the hon. member for Dorsetshire (Mr.
Ker Seymer), as to the sales that take place there on
the Sunday, and stating that those sales afforded a
cheap and ready mode of purchase by persons who
could not attend such places on other days, (Hear, and
a laugh.)
Mr. KER SEYMER said the statement he bad made
with reference to Houndsditch fair had not been contra.
dicted, but rather corroborated. As to the existence of
Houndsditch fair, without any reference to the
Sunday Trading Bill, it was a disgrace to the metro-
polis.

- Mr. BOWYER bore his testimony, from personal
observation, to the extreme brutality of the police on
Sunday last in Hyde-park.
OFFICERS' INCOME TAX.
Mr. If. BAILLIE asked the First Lord of the
Treasury whether he was disposed to take into consi-
deration the question that officers upon foreign service
should be exempted (as was now the case in India) from
payment of income tar.

Mr. S. KNOX, before the question was answered,
asked whether the additional pay of ls. per day was to
be given to the soldiers who had served, and were
serving in the Crimea ?

Mr. BENTINCK deprecated the course adopted of
asking questions similar to this, and that of the hon.
member for Finsbury, in which latter case the feelings of
the people were more likely to be inflamed than sub-
dued. With regard to the probable disturbance on
Sunday next, in Hyde-park, if such took place, he
thought it would be attributable more to the ill-advised
remarks of the hon. member for Finsbury than the con-
duct of the Home Secretm y.
Mr. DUNDAS bore his testimony to the forbearance
of the police on Sunday last, in driving the canaille back
from the carriage way. The police could do no other
than they bad in driving those rascally boys who assem-
bled there, yelling at every person who passed in a car-
riage. The majority of persons assembled were youths,
under 20 years of age. He advised the Government, on
the next occasion, to avail themselves of it 6-pounder.
Mr. WILLIAMS hoped the inquiry would be a strin-
gent one, when it would be found the conduct of the
police was disgraceful. .

Lord PALSIERSTON, in reply to Mr. Baillie's ques-
tion, said the reason why the Indian officers did not pay
the income tax was on account of their being
paid out of the revenue of the India
company. Officers on active service have a field allow-
ance besides their pay more than the amount of the in-
come tax, to meet the additional expenses of the cam-
paign, and that field allowance was proposed to be ex-
tended to the men at the amount of 6d. per day, which
would allow tham to have some extra comforts, and make
provision for their families.
Mr. ROEBUCK rose to complain of words having
been used in that house which never ought to have been
used by an Eng,lil gentleman in a British House of
Commons. (Hear, hear.) He has recommended the
Secretary of State to use a 6-pounder against the people
of London. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DUNDAS explained all be meant was that the
Home Secretary on a similar occasion should have the
assiAance of the military. (Orden-, and Hear.)
(LEFT SITTING.)

THE MYNDON GAZETTE.

(THIS EVENING.)

WHITEHALL, JULY 4.

The Queen has been pleased to grant to Travers Twiss,
Doctor of Civil Law, the place or office of Professor of
Civil Law in the University of Oxford, in the room of
Doctor Joseph Phillimore, deceased.