The National Register.
London, England, 1816-04-29 00:00:00

STATE OF IRELAND.

Sir J. NEWromr rose to bring forward his motion relative to
the present State of Ireland ; and observed, tlint in calling the
attention of the House to this .41111/jeCt, the first question wheel
would arise Was, 114/+Y it was possible Let two coontr:es shookt
tor Ispriards of six centuries ham,. been connected is England
and Ireland have lire-u; and that one euttatr.v :koala remain .4)
disaffected, SO miserable, and so wretched, whiht the ii•her had
made suet' rapid strides in improvement, civilization, and nu-
exampled cultivation. The answer, the Right 111,11. Barmiet
said. would soou be found, it' the history of the two countries
was looked into. It was because Great Britain wished ,o
claim union with Irehind, but would never estend to her British
law and British justice. The. Hon. Baronet then proceeded
to take a review of the State of Ireland, from the origin of her
connection with this could. y down to 11:e time of Ja,ous the
First, at vehicle time, the Right lion. Bnronet islet, i`Gkiail•lil
had been sent ft um this country to the pros Mee of Visit
however, took posse•siou of toe totality SI.IdiVIS <llil/:: In
take possession ul mend garrisen a conquest ; thus, li steld tit aim 1,-
erating the stale 4.f that country, animosities pool d.seni site we reit
sown, es Rich ey..11 tip to tile, preset ti,oe lout newer been
ermitratea, and which had. indeed, been the sourer of nil the
utieer..eS eowhiete It eland had tinee been subject. 'I tee Ho.
nom-able. Bartmet then proceeded at considerable length to
take a review of the di, erent measures adapted by dinereet
ailitlioist rations towards Li I'l4llli, fi1.211 that time to the Revolu-
tion, trout the Revolt:time fu the neees,iou uf Ike tli.ese of
litutover. and from that period to the time of the Union ; 1,0,1
especially COMlliCtlieti WI the conduct of he Irish Parbanwitts
theut<vhes towards then constitutive, (),,o. I`.Nltemr^f in the
retain of George I. on one uce.i*u unenvied to vote 2.11,0,ea
for yl 51415 to come; and that measure was nei!rly carried,
theft. bring a majority of one vote ettly against the motion.
Another Para:tun ni, in the reign of Cringe 11., sat thirty
tine years. Mu, eatisiart itself to outlive oil rs
t.t,tint,,,,„ms, awl osiopodely scissoring its interests trans
raise of illy people ; tnosr ..lei tither simiku aros had tended
liesterially to alienate the minds bf the pe-ple trom
Ties-ce things re maned (.11 I. Te, when ill, nit
the entire neili'ary Borne eons Mstthdrawm from train I tor Me
i•urpt se- of tie American %tat, and site was kit tu

Lus kit to herself, parties ceased, anal the law beanie prealo-
dominant. It might he said, that the King's t - lit then rani
through every family ; sand never acre the laws so well obeyed
as during that brilliant period. Iwo the some system be again
adopted. Restore union to the country again, and again would
Ireland return to obedience, to the laws, and to the goy( ih
inent; but never would that brilliant period Teter,' till the
same sestem as then prevailed should be again restored. The
Hon. Baronet then proceeded to advert to the Act of 1793.
and to the measui es of that day ; which, he said, west far from
tending to ameliorate their satiation. And having bald thus
much, he would call on nentlenien to look to the records of
Parli:•ment, and see in bow small a compass the benefits con.
rred on that unhappy country would lie, anal then Wok to the
sacrifices of blood and trensurewhich she had made. Her
tames, previona to the Union, never exceeded 1,500,0001. ;
wht:c, sieve that period, her animal average expenditure had
been 4.io0,0001.; end her debt had been increased from
34,0000001. to 120,0a01. Her blood hail been liberally sited
is a amitest of twenty years; said now, at the expiration of
that period 6,000,000 of ber population were excluded flrom-
tkae of the Constitution, and a force of 2:),000 men
were quartered upon her to keep the refraetory in awe. Why,
be wtuid ask, were there refralury at all in Irelaild any more
Shaft in England?—from inisgovernansed; 21141 into that misgo-
vernment he now called on the House to enquine.—The lion.
Barone t N a nt on to state. that among the evils which menaced
Ireland were to he enumerated Orange Societies, illicit distil-
lation, the mode of aecetiug Hieli Sheriffs ; anal what had been
too ranch the practice, sutinely, the patronage of those who tra-
ck e,-.1 anal vilified three-fourths of their countrymen. because
they were of a different religious persuasion. He described
muhalibited Oil these topics Kt some length. and concludrallwith
snowing an Address to the Prince Regeur, which declared the
ISCee:asity of providing an urniy of 25,000 men fur the security
tat' I WAS a Just ground fur enquiry into the state of that
*flunky, with a view to extirpate the evils ; and requesting his
Rppal Highness to lay 'deli Documents before the House us
should. lead to a delitsciale investigation, and to the re•cue
o$ the coatatry from the disorganized state in which it at pre-
scan is.

Mr. Paz,. complimented the Rt. Hon. Bart on the dispas-
sionate manner in which he had brs aria the II b; Cet tut ward,
omnixed withparty matter. With respect to the motion, he
WAN disposed to concur in part. lie would not conceal the
state of Ireland, and most regret that a state of disturbance dues
-•xist ; nor won!d he refuse issiormatioss ens that poise. The Rt.
ton. Gentlensau referred to various Writers to skew, thatevils
'oast wisest freta-the had habits of the natives, and customs
seineh were nisgraceful. It would he desirable fur the House
o ascerta;n the state of the lower orders. Most of the poor
-ttke small portions of land from the tanner, which was partly
•taill for in 1411011 r, and partly in rent; Isis food was very course;
Agiti it would he highly desirable tithe Irish peasant could have
those comforts wince the Engiisdt peasant cojoss. Ire then
proceeded to diseuss.the existing causes as stated by the lit.
lion. Gentleman, and in respect to the appointment of High
14heritfs, which he admitted might require amendment. The
Itt.. lion. Baronet had not alluded to Catholic emancipation;
;tut Or• could not avoittstating that, in his opinion, such a mea-
sure wools! not tend to tram's:lire the peopie. the the contrary,
belelseved that the residence of the Imullords would do more
tn. prevent the slistarbanees so generally deplored. Ile con-
Juslethvi I hum* ing tem in amendments, " generally concurring
its,the regret for the necessity of the establishment ut a military
suite in Iceland during profound peace, and re-nesting the
.ay.sir before the House such documents as should show the
stsstorbest.ssate of that country, Ac.
Mr. PLUNILETT considered the quostion as bearing on the
interests of Britain itself. The Rt. Hun. Gentleman, has Mg
,sischtimed party feeling,. proceeded to descant upon what he
cousidered the mi. government ut Ireland ; and tirg with re.
specl to Use lostirrection Act, two months luul•elapsed since the
Act was applied for, at which time only two counties, *Lippe.
3 ary and Meath, were stated to be in a disturbed state ; :duce
sheaslistsr countries wet.. added to the number. So that, instead,,
us* L 091) 1.i..11 to keep the country in a state of repose, 10,00 e. I
men woldsl nut be buff ei-ist. It had.beon truly stated, that it
al owing to is genetal discontent against the law, and hatred
so those persoos.appuinted to administer the laws. The amend.
: lent of the Itt. Hon. Gent. would not cure the es il—the conse.
tpseiset s Wel e already known—the causes ought tu.be emptired
into, ur a rowdy could not be applied. lie wished to know
whether any siscasore w::s to be brought forward for the relief
of Ireland: If not, and they were to be left its a helpless and
slegrndedastate' it was a mockery of Goveintsient. The carry.
iug of the Cathulic Question woold be calculated to do much
good, it' readgredimlatable to tie Protestants. In fact, it w4s
the sine qua am. There was a poster ut snaking Iretistol the
mainstay of introSiatc ; and, by misgovernment, she was capable
of beiii4 made .oen deadliest enemy, anti our destruction.—lt
Goverums nt wished to govern Ireland, it should rets ace iU
Vtl%, and not ;:psern by a Pi-mast:wit stireendanly, but by a
eomplete uuiuu among all classwi- of the conmunsity in..that
cowry. . .

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Mr. V. FIWZGER AIM contriided,.tliat the evils complained of
had not arisen from the present or any recent Government of
Ireland ; but/ the had Governowiet, az,codbefore there was
au,: difference of religion between the two countries. it was
ii:' intention to propose the repeal of the house duty fu Ire-
land; and that thr...doty on hearths should be taken off all
-houses that had not :twee hearths in rash. These 'Matt seem
711.iturs of littic importance to the Howie.; but they were of
:;teat importance to the Irish peasantry.,--He hoped, small as
those concessions nti;lit appear, thatthay would lie considered
:as proofs of OKI willingness of Government to beieslit, us far as
possible. the people %of Ireland. But he would nut. consent to
the abandonment of the penalty for a. violation of the Excise
!Awes : as be considered their enforcement to be most materi-
ally necessary ta the maintenance of peace and order in.l.re-
Mr. enarriin thettglit the question was capable oflaing re-
clime& to three her Is ; first, financial iliszmis; secondly, of
commercial distressca; and, lastly, the state of insurrection in
which some parts of itirere plunged. The first remedy should
I.e to repeal the Pen it Lawn. as applicable to the CAl:folios..
tler finaiteial distress was very great ; but this country should
consider, that it hal both the weans and the remedy in its
Jaen hands. Any thing that destroys Ireland would destroy
(!root Britain ;.awd, thereiare, whenevercwe timid Ireland
mokinit under if stress, we iiite'a to ac;ininistar.to her assistance
e..;th our wealth. 'Use commercial. correstaindence between
two countrii s slwuld bt ostablisSed on panduls of mutual
advaiting..s. 'Hie great 11101ie, of cure for the evils under
Nyllielsircktlid groaned,. war.hy.adininistering relief, where it
applit siVe, to the greater evils, and tile lesser biirtliens
awned die of. tlemselvos. As to the insurrections iu.lreland,
in his oplui ---- , they ititaLti to-be put down by a mild exorcise of
the law*. raster Onto by•the•power of time military; tar if the
tormer„takAittir a rue lottsoNl,the very caiminaj alio 6i:tiered
..ise that ;onstitutian which condemned
ailtuted to tim.succ...sses of the last sear;

ov.ter the hie'. wn..t pi..
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