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of open day; white he had observed at the distance of four
paces, and that a about even turtling his liend to observe it.
His lips had from that moment been hermetically sealed,
'lever to be opened until he came before the Commissiun at
Milan. Wos it to be believed, that a man leis.' hod seen the
Princess riding, in open day, in the disgusting attitude
which one witness had described, in a manlier so frightful,
monstrous, and portentous, could have si,nceal•d it for a
single day ? and yet he conceals it until he comes before the
-mann Commission. Ile would now call the attentimi of I heir
Lordships to the witness at the inn at Trieste. Did their
Lordships. said the Learned Gentleman, forget—nu they
could nut forget tile expression of that man's counteuance—
those eyes that nose, that lecherous mouth, from which
he detailed his foul importunities. This man, this perjured
witness (said Mr. Brougham) shall not pass unpunished ; lie
at least, Is yet here. I could drag others to punishment,
but this fellow shall not escape me. I *sill prove by evidence
—by the position of the doors (lithe rooms that this man has
sworn falsely. I a ill skew that a bat he has !Morn cannot
be true. I will prove that the Queen slept at Trieste but
one night , and neither before nor since has she ever crossed
the threshold of the door. The charge against the Queeu at
Naples was such as required to be established by a crowd of
witnesses. His Learned friend ought to have supported this
part of the charge with peculiar care. The circumstance
of the Queen being hissed out of the theatre, could DOS have
been a thing to which only one witness could swear. The
hissing of such a person for such a reason, must have been
matter of knowledge somewhat nuke acacial. All 111114
have known it. What bad become of Ann Pryson ? He
would tell their Lordships, she was here. Why had she
not been called? He would tell their Lordships—because she
was not an Italian. Who had been called to prove the
marks on the bed? Ann Poson made the beds. Who washed
•he linen ? Why was not the washer-woman called Because
Close who got up the business acre experienced in washer.
women ! lu the Douglas plot they culled a washer-women,
and experience taught them that it was a dangerous reliauce.
He had another remark to make s lie had heard it said,
that he had proved the falsehood of witnesses in parti-
culars which were not important. This came from the
lay part of the community; those who were acquainted
with the law knew the absurdity of the position. If he
bad to set up an informer. it would be necessary for Ilium
to produce evidence to support hint in sonic of the most
important particulars; but, in pulling down • perjured
witness, it was quite enough to make him state a false-
hood, even alma the most unimportant particulars. If
this were not the case, what security could there be for
the safety of human kind? What chance of escape
from the toil of the conspirator? What safeguard against
time malignity of a spiteful witness. "Suppose," said
Mr. Brougham, " that any one of your Lordship's had
met with • misfortune, the greatest that could take place,
at which your delicacy revolts. and irons which human
nature is alien—that a villain charged you with the com-
mission of • crime, the very imputation of which could
never he removed—against the main fact no evidence
could be possibly adduced, and you would have to rely
upon the cross examinaticn of that witness for ■ refuta-
tion of the odious charge. Au acquittal woul4 be given
If that evidence should be found to contradict uimarlt' in
the slightest particular. I call upon you to extend this
sort ot justice to the Queen." He was told that the ii-
thation whirls Bergaini held originally, compared with
his fortune in the Queen's service, was considered a mat-
ter of suspicion. God turbid that the time should arrive
at which all stations except one, were not open to all
men. He would remind their Lordships, that the rapi-
dity of Bergomi's promotion had been greatly over-stated
—and the manner of his promotion was a proof that love
was mot the cause of it. Dumont had stated, that three weeks
after Beiganies introduction to the service of the Queen
he had been admitted to those familiarities which formed
the ground of the charge. How was it at the board?—
lie dined with the to, and it is proved that even at
Genoa he had dined with the same company. He con-
tinued for a length of time in the situation of Courier,
and his promotion gradually rose with las services.—
Where was the wretched insane woman (a character
which Cie Queen must be, if the witnesses were to be
believed), who would allow her paramour to sit amongst
the menials? This was nut like the operation of love.
Bergami was not a man of low origin. His father had
been rtapectable, but had got into difficulties, aid the
sun sold the estate to pay the father's debts. He was re-
duced, but lie was a reduced Gentleman. When in Gen.
i'iuo's service, he was recognised as such. and lie diced
sit the Geirerars table. Dining the Spanish campaign, lie
was respected and esteemed.
Lem red Counsel stated, that in answer to all the
charges insinuated against her Majesty upon former oc-
casions, lie held in Isis hand a memorial utgreat authority:
it was a letter trolls our late gracious Sovereign to tier
Majesty, and was to time following effect :
" Windsor Castle, Nov. 19, 1814.
" My dearest Daughter-its-law and Niece,
" Yesterday I and the rest of my family bad an inter-
view with the Prince of Wales, at Kew. Care was taken
out all sides to avoid sill subjects of• altercation or expla-
nation, consequently time conversation was neither instiue.
live nor entertaining; but it leaves the Prince of Wales
ins a situation to slaew whether his desire to 10111111 to his
family is only vesbal, or teal, which time alone can
aliew.
" I am not idle in my endeavour' to make inquiries
that may enable lime to communicate some plan for the
advantage of the deer child yuu and inc with so much
reason must interest ourselves in affecting, and my having
the happiness of living mine with you is no *mall incen-
tive to my ler g sonic idea WI the subject, but yuu may
depend on their being not decided upon withuut your
thorough and cordial concurrence, for your authority as
mother it is my object to support.
" Believe me at all times, any dearest daughter•-in-law
and niece, your most affectionate father•in-low and uncle.
(Signed) " 6E0116 I-: K."
He should now read smother letter of a very different
kind—that which had been written by his 'meson 314•
jesty to her, upon the subject of the separation, in %%birch
an assurance was given, that her conduct, after thick
separation should not be pat liculmly attended to. He tln r.
read the letter a hich bas ahead, appe.ii ed before the
upon the question uf• the se pat 4I ei oil. Would it
nut be singular that the conduct of het 31ajest , who had
been twice proved i 111 l eceist, should alter as she advanced
Ili years, and the mute that she wed watched? The
Learned Gentleman enteeated their Lou dships nut to
dismiss from their ucullecuuu the two gland points on
sefielu li tested his deteuve. The Counsel for the pro-
ieLotivii had not produced good witnesses, wii.i acre
\s'illms then mesco, ai.L, secondly, that those witnesses

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they had called, were injured in tl►eir characters, and
tainted in their evidence.

The Learned Gentleman then proceeded in a strain of
impassioned eloquence, and begged their Lordships to
pause before they gave judgment against her Majesty.—
" lf," said lie, " your judgment goes forth against the
Queen, it will he the only judgment you ever issued that
will he without effect, and recoil on those who pronounce
it. I intteat yonr Lordships to save your country, which
is now so agitated—the Crown, which is now in danger—
the Aristocracy. which is shaken—and the altar which
can never more rest secure, and which will shake its kin.
dred Throne.—The Queen may he witlimst the solemn
services of the Church, but she possesses the hearts and
prayers of the people. 1 now, my Lords, will conclude
—and I most devoutly pour ferns my supplications to the
Throne of Mercy, that mercy may be poured forth on
the people, in a larger proportion than the merits of their
Rulers have deserved ; and that the hearts of your Lord •
ships may be guided by justice!"
The Learned Gentleman then sat down, having evi-
dently made a powerful impression on the House.
After a pause of ten minutes, Mr. Williams presented
himself, and the Lord Chancellor inquiring his object t
Mr. Denman said, his Learned ',bother wished to address
their Lordship.
The LORD CHARCRLLOR said, he understood that Mr.
Williams wished to address a second speech to the House ;
this was not customary; the usual course being for one
Counsel to speak at the opening of a case or defelice, and
for another to sum op. It certainly rested with their
Lordships to grant the indulgence, and iu a case like this,
which was of an extraordinary nature, and of such par-
amount importance, lie thought it would he desirable that
Mr. Williams should be permitted to address their Lord-
ships.
Mr. WILLIAMS then rose, apologizing for his inability
to follow liis royal friend, or to do justice to Isis royal
mistress, in a discussion which load nevertheless been, by
his learned friend, torn to pieces, and laid quivering and
trembling before their Lordships. He then proceeded to
commeut on the difficulties tinder• which his illustrious
client came to the defence—difficulties which, he con.

tended, were never experienced in any other case—
which were fraught with tionsixed evil, without the
slightest apparent benefit. He wished their Lordships to
consider who were the parties in this eases It was no
immaterial question. It was his duty to speak dutifully
and respectfully of the King—a name which, in itself, was
said to be a tower of strength—and yet it was a name in
front of the Bill of Pains and Penalties. It could, how-
ever, now ito longer be doubted, that on one side of this
case there was the Government of the country, involving
rank, power, wealth, and influence, not only in this coun-
try, but also in those States from whence the witnesses
had been brought. On the other hand, was a Queen, by
the tieatineut she had received, shorn of her beams—a
Queen, by the vicissitudes of fate—by the circumstances
of fortune--and by the death of individuals, who had been
deprived of her most active and able defenders.—The
learned gentleman then enumerated the difficulties under
which the Queen laboured in having been denied a list of
witnesses ; smacqeminted with time, except that it spread
over a period of six years ; Ignorant of all the circum-
stances, except when they came to he detailed in evidence.
He called upon their Lordships respectfully, but firmly
and boldly, to pursue that secret and unbending rule
observed in the administration of jnstice in the Courts
below, which was to judge from the evideuce adduced in
the cause, and slot to sutler any previous opinion, or any
extraneous circumstances, to influence their judgment.—
The learned gentleman insisted that the whole of the evi-
dence skewed that the Government were parties to the
prosecution of her Majesty, and that undue influence and
undue power had been exerted in procuring persons to
swear away the character of the Queen. The inquiry
had not, on the part of bee Majesty's advisers, been con-
ducted with forgetfulness ; of this fact there was not a
single witness whom they had not asked whether he had
received any thing, or promise of any thing for the evi•
dence he was to give ? But after the answers given by
the Captain and Mate on this point, the remaining wit-
nesse., having dmiteless been properly tutored in the
interim, had cautiously and obstinately withheld all infor-
mation on the subject. Why, if the Counsel for the Bill
could have vindicated themselves from the suspicion of
having employed improper means in the procuration of
evidence did they not produce some of the agents of the
Milan C:1111111:414/11, Mho could have told every thiug about
it ? Why did they slut, for instance, produce Mr. Powell?
Were they afraid that he would 'thew, if examined, what
money had been nn: aringly and largely remittesi—(Mr.
Powell, who was sitting beside the Attorney General,
shook his head)—that the means, the opportunity, the
funds of corruption, were all amply furnished I—The
leashed Counsel now begged to ditect the attention of
their Lordships to a point of great importance, which had
not been adverted to by his lea, ned friend the Attorney
General for the Queen. It appeared. (inns the evidence
of Mademoiselle Dumont, that her Majesty thought and
believed that the was enviruned and beset by spies, whir
were sure to report all she did to her enemies, and to
give the worst possible complexion to every thing that
admitted of misconstructions And yet, with this euisvic-
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(ion, was her Majesty so incautious, so open, so regardless
of all appearances, as the case for the prosecution rpre-
seated ! This was another, in addition to the slimily rea-
sons stated by his learned friend, her Majesty's Attorney
General, to thew the utter improbability of the story
which the witnesses had attempted to hump up. The
learned gentleman next proceeded to expose, at some
length, the many gross contradictions in the evidence of
Alajocchi and Saechi; and advertiug to the various im-
portant circumstances which were extracted iu the cross-
examination of these witnesses, but concealed on their
examination in chief, lie observed, that the fact of that
concealment, when the witnesses knew nut that they
would afterwards have an opportunity of meet'
them, sliewed of itself that they were rors*orit, alid had
not intended to speak the whole truth as soh ly bound
by their uaths.—The learned Counsel then proceeded to
,hew the contrast between the hleteslivnts that Caine wit
evideoer, and those which had fallen flout the laps of
the Attorney General; and partirulaily 'dwelt upon the
testimony cat Mademuiselle who had, he said,
Decal amity of the
lionds--atiocions, because they weie dangerous to a
iniyhty people. The 'memory oh' thin. witness resembled
that of Alajocchi, who was renowned for lecolleeting all
on one side—tor au extraordinary , 'normal, au impossible
IlLe11101). He called upon their dships to examine the
uuies before tl.ein with the most scrupulous cane. It was.

in fact, make particular comments upon evidence, for the
purpose of beating down that which had already commit-
ted fele de as; but he begged their Lordships' attention to
the panegyric upon the Queen by Duanunt. That he
looked upon as an effitsinn of the genuine sentiments of
that witness, notwithstanding her own efforts to give the
lie to her own declarations. When he looked to that
enlogimit, he could not help thinking ofan ettloginin passed
11111111 her Majesty by another character of much higher
audio' ity, who called her the pride and grace of life, and
ho, %hen he did so, gave RII opinion the result of Ulmer.
Viiiioll and of a relined and ace Wished mind.—Thu
learned gentleman then CiIIIIIIICIittIi, in strong terms, oil
the challenge which bad been thrown out by the Solicitor
General, to bring forward certain witnesse,.. The chalk
lenge, he said, should be met, and witnesses, good and
sufficient witnesses, should be brought forward in de.
fence of the Queen.
Four o'clock having arrived, the Noose adjourned.
THIRD DAY OF THE DEFENCE.
THUMSDAY. OCT. 5.
The LORD-CHANCELLOR wok his seat on the wool-sack
at five minutes belies ten.

Prayers were read by the Bishop of Bristol, and the roll called

FOREIGN RELATION6.—The LORD CHANCELLOR
was about to direct Counsel to be culled in, when,
Lord HOLLAND rose.—Hie Lordship said, that before pms
ceeding with the regular business of the day, be begged to pit
wine questions to the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Liverpool) with
respect to the present state of our Foreign Relation. From
papers which had been laid before Parliament, there appeared
reason to conclude that the five great powers of Europe had, by
some compact among themselves, assumed not only the right of
judging the internal affairs of oilier nations, but of punishing
them for any infraction of certain principles, which thew powers
were phased to lay down as the only ones fit for nations to ob.
serve. The arrangements that were preparing in Austria, the
menacing papers which had apparel in public journals, both
from Austria and Russia, indicated that something of the kind
had taken place, and was now going on. He wished therefore to
know from the Noble Lord opposite, whether any communication
had been made on the subject of these armaments by Austria ?
The points on which he particularly wished to have information
from the Noble Lords were, whether the House of Austria had
communicated to his Majesty's Ministers the object of the arma-
ment now forming in that Empire? His Lordship would be
obliged to the Noble Lord opposite, to state whether the events
which bad lately taken place in the South of Italy, had altered.
in any respect, the relations of amity between this country and
his Sicilian Majesty? His Lordship concluded by again ex-
' pressing a confident hope that the Noble Lord at the head of his
Alajeste's Government would be able to state explicitly to the
House that this country-was no Tarty to any engagement which
I may have been formed, hostile to the liberties of other nations.
Lord LIVERPOOL said. these were were some points referred
to by the Noble Lord, on which he would not, consistently with
his public duty, give all the explanation desired. When the
noble Lord had on a former occasion put a
.question nearly
similar to the present. as to the state of our relations with Spain.
Ise had answered explicitly that the change which had taken
place in the internal affairs of that Government, had not caused
any change in its relations with this country. But the events
which had recently happened in the South of Italy, were of a
different complexion from the revolution in Spain. There was u
division between the two blanches of the Sicilian Monarchy ;
Sicily had not asylesced in the Revolution whielb had been
effieted at Naples. He would not now enquire wW-the motive
foe the divides)** be. nor how it might effect the ultimate
rook; it vtasioditieot to state that the tact of that division CA*
intim. bad boo issued by his Majesty's Government a goad
tense for delhisligfer eh@ present any reccognition of the new
existing Gieemoseot at Naples. On the general question, he
had no efilisalty in stating. that without giving up the right
which be easseseed every. country, under certain circumstances.
had to interfere with the internal affairs of other countries, it war
no part of the policy of his Majesty's Government to interfere
with the internal concerns of other countries, and that it was no
party either directly or indirectly, to any engagement deny kind
or description for such interference.
Lord HOLLAND observed, that the Noble Earl had omitted
to state whether the late events had altered the relations of amity
between thiscountry and his Sicilian Majesty ? And, also whether
the events widen had occurred in tile Neapolitan territories, came
within the doyuiptton of circumstances, which in the Noble Lords
opinion. justified interference with the internal affairs of other
countries
Lord LIVERPOOL said, that it was well known that a gen-
tleman of great respectability, both fur character and talent.
had been Ins Majesty's Minister at Naples (Sir Wm. A'Court).
That Gentleman was still at Naples. His Lordship would not.
however, conceal that no new letters of credence had been sent out
to him to the existing Government.
Lord HOLLAND vriehed to know, whether he might under-
stand, that it the two branches of the Sicilian alumni:4 had con-
curred in the Revolution, his Majesty's Government would have
thought it incumbent on diem to send out new letters of credence ?
Lord LI V FRPOOL had no difficulty in saying, that it such
had been the case, new letters of credence would slave bean rent
out. lie thought it right to add, that the existing Government
of Naples was in the Same situation as toe British Governunin
in this respect—it had not, as yet, sun any new letters of cre-
dence here.
Earl GREY said, he had heard the explanation of the Noble
Lord with concern and regret. He would admit that the unfor-
tunate division between Naples and Sicily dill constitute a
material difference from the unanimous pnx:etlings in Spain.
but he did nor conceive those differences such as to make it
necessary to suspend that amicable intercourse which had
subsisted between this country and the Government of Naples.
He did not wish Ministers to be fettered as to their future con-
duct, when new events and circumstances might arise, but he now
conceived the Noble Earl at the head 01' the Administration had
pledged himself to this House and to Eutope, that we had no
disposition, either now or hereafter, to interfere with the imunal
affairs of other countries. He hoped this declination would be
received be the Courts of Europe, that we not only disapproved
of the conduct of Austria, but also that we were no parties to that
unpriucil led alliance, which had been formed for the purpose of
✓eering the rising liberties of independent States.
The Earl a LIVERPOOL begged that he might not be
misunderstood; and he would spite repeat, that it was not the
policy of this country at this time, or under the present cireton-
stances, to interfere with the &tails of the Two Sicilies; and
that we were no party, direct or indirect, to the interference of
any tuba Powers.
COLONEL BROWN.
The Marquis of I. tNSI)OWN begged to call the attention
of their Lordship, to the Correspondence that had been laid
bonne the house respecting the conduct of Colonel li own.
He conic-red that the Correspondence never sati‘tieu limo. as he
had, at the time he lead it, a letter fauns a doubt,
tat sho,e
veracity lie did not entertain the slightest doubt, *lnch threw
much additional light on the subject.—The Noble Marquis then
read from Al. Allatietti' one dated the with, the other the Ann,
of September. He said it. was
it consider nt conduct
of Brown as a mere act of trien6ship, to a permit] of whom
he hail no knowledge, and who was residing is. artalier country,
anti this done by an agent tor the opposite party. It was not
potable fur a man like M. Macietii, ing under an ale-obre and
despeue Goveinient, having a 44auwite.icatioisous.0..., by a person
in authority from another country in alliance wiui Mat in w.iielt