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more general duly as canseierdiotii M.soshere nr
Parliament. It was impo.sible fur them. sappissinlc
',kenw proceedings necessary. so to square their
course as to make it desirable they ,Mould Ike e5p..... I
to I he performance of Iwo ditties which may cl soh ant'.
each other. The Noble Lordwilforeed flay iseces.ll v
of keeping these duties distinct. hods fur the pet-
monad Convenience and asondreileas of lb, 1i..,1,,,,..
dole /ail Learned Gentlemen to when he enini,,,i,
whd would otherwise he moot disadvantagentis'y
situated. as well as law the 'are of the illia.triu...
fiersonage Ilwriwlf, whose character might be III_
volved en 11w result. He woo/.0. du-rehires spool
this point submit to the Ifouw, whether it would
not be betty,. both for the arise of public jalollyr;
and Of the free and uswnrhorrestwri rhsehorge uf tin it
Arty to thew dint. that the liwii. anal /warlord
Gentlemen should lint lie rivisckloi by being friac,if
in any situation which would rx probe throb to a 1 r...:
mature disclosure of their view of an 01.1te..4
and important an imjuirt.—(lieree. kn... heee.).
W hen the House received the !tepee; at the Secret
Committee, they could then. ise f. Sir Thumai
ktimbold's case. consider whethei the next step (.4
an)) was to lead to int inapeselintieuti; ft, to any ales
cosinse jiientied hey the practice 4 Parliament. Tr.e
gustation would Weil come before the Home in on
entire Alpe, and Wel edtild take ally woo those
pleased of the application of the promuoinnii sub_
toittee by the Committee to the cir.eim.too.ces if
the case. wit!, all the lights wh•els would !Iwo
be thrown upon it. Such would be the cottrar
he should recommend. and he mentioned at in
answer to what had fallen last night front or
Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite (Mr. lien-
mail). Having stated this much of the Otithor sit
the course which he thought it would be aslimothle
for Parliament to take on the present occoarous Ile
should now beg leave to advert to WHO! Oltferri-
linos which had fallen from liiiii. Mendreis last
night, and also inritlentqy oil twiner orCeastoott. re.
PireCtlOK the course hitherto ionisers' lay hie Misis.4-
ty's Ministers. Serious advice had been drismwd , al
ilWrei. and 1111100111tieRill given respecting the sultan.
responsibility under which they were acting. iss..»
he could assure both the Hun. arid Learned G.....
tlemen who had last night given those ailissointna..;
and he could also insilOre the How. I leililellb49 t 11..
Bennett) who had relished a ii,arit stud temper so
hdstile to calm deliberation, Shut Ins Al ti•aly's W-
hiners were to the full extent aware and in•par,il
to act upon the responsibility they ft It middle.' to
thew official *nu at in the country. Tiwy weir
prepared to joist with the Host. G.isrlemen uproot,
WI ettlltlig the attention said scrutinizing rye of
ParllOTOrtit to watch the whole (nurse of their lay-
cretiongs tkruiegliout this very etoliarras.ing &ces-
sion. and hr tntild strove the Hon. Gentleiliets mat
Ministers were prepared he challenge any premises lw
say they had taken an unbecoming step on the oc-
casion. How could the Ifia-e say whether the ad-
vice which they were now compelled to give his
Majesty was proper or no!, until they knew more
of the details of the nature of the charge against
her Maesty, and of the whole of those transaction..
in reference to which their advice had hero tender-
ed ?' Government, he enuld assure the Home, !pt
not acted upon wager mad idk rumours. and at the
same louse GM forbid that lie should *tat e *follicle
prepared to adduce facts which may nos hy posodiddy
be ellectual ly rebutted. lie 'rooted the Henke woo h I
give him full credit when lie sleet aril. that n0t1n..4
was further from the intention of lass Majesty'. NI!-
nisters than tn shut out any part of the Merano-
lion elwcb could possibly lead to the exculpati..o
of the Illustrious Personage whose chasmic, wa.
implicated. He would eves. appeal to the Hon. and
Learned Member opposite (Mr Brougham). it iii
ruy communication which lie hod with any of his
Majesty's Ministers on this 'object (hr knew lie li.nt
communicated with some, though he. Lunt C. was
not of the number) they Insd disclosed to him the ex-
istence of soy spirit in his Majesty's Glivern.nrait of
presuming fragrant biome against the Illinnnotis
Individual, or of wantonly wishing in taint her ctiu-
racier by unfair and unfounded iii•imeaton.s. Tim
Hon. and Learned Gentleman last night said, that
it lay ul him (Lord C.) nut shay to snot,
out a struug case against her &lajety. hot al.° to
whew that ho memos were op ets ill MIIIISirt. to re-
(rails stay longer from bringing this qiiestioei tailor
Parliament. He was prepared to Inert that call,
and to say that the case was peremptorily furcrit
upon Government by the &Winn lake., by ti,e-
Queen herself, and that no other course rrow 'inn)
open to them. He could not help here alluding
to the conflicting opinions maintained by the
Right Hun. Gentlemen opposite (Mr. Tierisey).
amid the Hon. and Learned Gentleman upon tin.
subject. The fistmer had di•tincily stated that
when the case of her Majest.s'a grant came regu-
larly bellsre Parliament, he would call upon tin-
eeriiinesit to place the House its a situation to etre.-
cise its own judgment upon the in slier ; 1 e would,
lie said, theu expect that all the rumours defog.-
tory to the character of her Majesty should he
disavowed. and that she should be placed in a
situation bee g her station in the votirstry Z or
its that her whole ca-e should lie distinvi,.-
brought before the House. to abide the remit of
than judgment of radiomen'. The 'Right Honour-
able Gentleman dial not certainly soak his t.ew
lees harshly than this—•' Either that Ins Marsly
had been betrayed by his Servants, and exp ert! to
the iudignity of on iudividuil.4lin, when) hr might
to be protected, or that that inetividuel, entitled ley
her rank to homage and respect, had twin 4, jasigli
vilified said maltgued." Nni.„ too that p..stia line
Hun. Cientlentan. so far bout expressing his ening ie
deuce. joined issue with In* theist lion. F'lr".l,
for lie thought that it was Ilse ii.nvesl duty sit Gat
verisment out to star one step on the bailor.• unit!
forbearance could nut by po.oihtlity
.he (till" a
protracted, that being the bitty way 01 111,(0‘11, a;
paitiful disclosures, which. whither they shun •
prove true or false, could nut tail to pole( th •
character, of illustrious Personages at i•sith• 'q
a manner moot tnjorintas tu their own 10Irrebl a
and those of the community. The 11011‘)01.4L:'
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Learned Gentleman land even iitl•lcds tll4 8.1
the ititluence hods of policy snit duty insitu•en
upon ltdonisters the task of-avoiding every speciet
uf irritating investigation, Wargo it was lorroe,l
kaput. diem by the strung hind of necessity. S,Ore
that petiud lie hail nut tweed from the Wm.. a.'
Lem.'" Utollenutti any relaxation of that seisii.
IWON'. Weed so late as last aught ha seesseel to nt die .1
• a matter ideliarge, that furbearasice bad owl hers 4.4."..1
i far curette.. it was ewes botiod by hop, that he .11" I"'
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`fee to tie Crown to wad. dews a Message to Par'lamest.
He stated, that he thought thirds.* for stegociation, se he
was pleased to term it, might, still to have been kept open,
is the hope that Parliament would have hers spared the
pail of discussing this rodents salijeti. The tranmetioss,
however, out of doors. dithis the last 4$ hoses, have af.
forded a pretty sisMeiens proof how little say Negutiatioss
(hp use the phrase already put) would have cosdeeett to
pied, so liftk nader the control of the Hon. and Learned
Uentlentatie prudes( moose, did her Majesty woe to be
am the occasion to which be Itlltnied. The Blouse. from
what they had sees wiling the last slay or two. costa easily
anticipate what wostld have been the fate of any attempt to
adrenal./ wish her Majesty, when they road that the glues.
tarsal which may have passed were not only •liiratita dls.
closed to the public the eery moment the e. re a riling, ha
as the Hon and Learned Genth mail sai•l lief mot, is ei„•.
diestioN of hi. Tee bottaar, with the accompaniment al-
leged saccarences Maths* to those domments, which were of
sr garbled, twist... awl exaggerated characier.—(fiear.,—
tinder what lain e he would say criminal advice, her
Majesty hla sr :rd to make a discheare of such glom.
muds, I,e gat ott. Oa at a lima In conjecture; sod for what
purpose lot, sh.y could have been throws forth to the
world, couched is a purl of appeal to the passions of the
lowest orders of society, and under inch eireamstances of
exaggeration. must be obvious to all eyes that were nut wit.
fully closed to the fair manifesting of the case. The pair.
prose fur which the disclosure was made, wita, be thought,
but too evident.—(ffear, hear, hear.)—With the rape.
rienee to which he had just •alliedeal, he thought his
Majesty's M milder, had OCC•attill to rejoice that they
hail lone before the last step taken by she Queen fairly
and folly avowed in terms that admitted of no dis-
guise what would be the coneequenM of such a Masse.
and had thereby defeated the operation oflhe base and per.
Arbors artifices that might now have been psi in action.
had their detision emanated hum any ikes, or sudden
•iew taken of the conduct of the pieties. It wage a gamete
ofatistactims to his Majerty'a Mimi
step was taken with a fell knowledge of what remold he to
herself the inevitable conommence.--(fftar, bras.)—lf she
has this high and proud feeling of conscious innsiceneel is
there any roan with the feelings which attire has implanted
in his heart, that must not respect her decision and ad.
mire her fortitu.lel—( Hear. hear. Istetr.)--But what were
the coasideratiung which influenced her a leimers (for it
appeared she had others than the legal Gentlemen op.
yarsite) in recommending Shia step, the Hume most deter-
imMe for itaele Whether the course taken by Ministers was
Fight or wrong was a different Tien i tttt —it was, at all canto,
clearly and candidly, and timely notified lg. the 11!,...
trines Personage, and lammed long since to her akiniwledged
legal adviser, in whose possemings had hers distisseily
placed. without qualification or &mitt or hesitation,
nearly eight Months ago, the full views and intention• of his
Majesty'. Ministers. With respect to what were e the
terms of the negotiation (he would nut enter into n contro-
versy irpon words) lately tittered into with her Majtely, it
wee clear that the terms proposed could never hate hem
carried into effect wititont the concurrence of Parliintent.
No lo..sous could imagine that the seminary settleincut was
aghast •d se a paltry bribe to ile.lisee her Majesty to renounce
her right to the rank and title which else hide's, or as tender.
rJ in any other sense than as a (audition, subject to the re-
eler. of Parliament. It was (mingled upon a priaciple that
the (been slid sot mean to depart from Its course alie had
heretofore trod, or to alter her relative Mathison to his Ma-
jeety, which hail, from eireninstauce. snheispity lune stand.
stir, horn for a series of years one of oleic domestic
willmoil any rali 111 l•I hope of re
. litiosts. It nail roily hoped that she smell have cane.
tinned Ili remain await in she same stale of practical sea.

.111.60 'ft 11111 g recognised by hermit. As lime as she pur-
sued such a coarse, he for one was ready to ray, that so tar
from considering hi■ fillajesty's Ministers called spun to
interfere with the Crown, kr would go the whale length
of saying, that they *Arnold have held it a sacred duty to
the public to have averted the calamity of such an lovas.'
:igainin ■s that into which they were now toyed !pewter.
He denied that in the proposition made to her Majesty ■uy
indignity whatever was (aerial 10 the high elation its which she
moved. It was competes! for his Majesty to have originated
the I..runiary toadish/is, if be pleased, without accompanying.
the off., with any allusion to its Parliamentary ►atil3tation;
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such riiifiration was always implied without a specific men-
tion: it w n so in treaties with foreign Males, where the subsi.
slily was in the first instance tittered open, and P.irlialacat
afterward% called opus) In rat le.! thesli halation upon the merits
nithe caw and faith of the sot horitY of %het:rows. The Muse
never took a &wage at such s course, and why then should

it he einem:Weil 1141941 with reference to *hermit. ntroae? It

was in every sense desirable that so long as her Majesty pre-
served that separation iu which she had so hoer herd, she
idiouhl have the belie& or that Marriage settlemieirt, by which
stiptil•tioon of bO,OOO/. was seemed to her in the
event of her surviving his Majesty. Rut a great mistake
prevailed in the view as well as in the tripper of the liia.
:ltrirober wlln spoke on the subject last night (Mr. Itennett) ;
he s. rutted Ito think that her Majesty was. on the late arra-
room. tailed upon In surrender all her legal ri,thts. tie (Lord
Cat' lert agh) never considered that arch an uffer hart
Zero suzcouied or could pave been made in her.—
TIP OW were rights which every body knew she contd not re-
levance without the authority and sanction of Parliament,
and of which she viola not by her own act olivri.t her-
loat Is understood wan meant to he commit-
nirated In her Majesty was (and the Hunournhle and
Learned Geode-mast was, 'err now. apprised of Its
she should follow that coots, whirls wool t prevent the
e1a.4111411i, wf • conflict either at home or abroad. iti •
points which it was so desirable should be set •t rest for
ever. It wee tobviosis that her Majesty coold not reside in
this cosiwiry without bringing those couflorting question* to
mime. The pain of such • recurrence it uas unpleasant to
moutemplate. Torre was Fria...silty a tendency in some
glearirr. to 'lnrush such diss►ntioos, and a usi.chifirimq
oat of doors to keep alive this spirit of ',slant
rontroversy.—( firer, hear )—.l t equally intererdrol her Ma.
jest'''s real and true dignity and personal comfort. 11. avoid
'whim imposed to such Mee-truces, which were so invi-
showily kept olive out a.f doors, and that she should hear
arch a till. so would nut perpetually raise "orations of state
holism* her Majesty's public situation and the representa-
tive of the Crown in Foresgo Stales, which appears to have
given such pain to her Nlejesty, anti led to so many tortoise
rapristotatiensa we her part. The offer then was made to her in
the fell spirit of peace, and nut it, the contelesplationrof a re-

ISCi3I WU of her legal rights all 44.414.16. The Hon. and Learn.-
ad Gent. opposite was himself In possession of a document
whir+ placed this question beyond any ilumbl.—(Hear, from
Mr. Broirohoss.)—The only iutent ion was to pervert the un-
pleasant feeling which was forced by the mode her Majesty
adopted, of putting that question of her rash forward, soil
remising herself to painful sensations in consequeuce of it.
Ile soul.l 11,“11I'V She House, that with respect to the treat-
ment her Majesty might have received from Covello Courts' or
Itribsh M lin ters errand, no ungenerous woe was ever wade of
She ion.IMOCIP, or etlppeSell iliflisesce of British counsels, twos
winN of etiquette; so nioneceneary„ or onterited, or modest. ved
temseurastly was thrown upon her NI j sty through the agency
sit .Moinsers. H• could ORT.Ire the that • distisction
see 51/0114541/IWN between the rights reei.gri lied by the coast i.
Patton fur bar &Nest, as Qfircls t'one.nt, and thaw* which
rolled spits die gi ace sod (wear of the Sovereign. and were
r. 144 has 000r...4 no. The KIN( had also private
as well as public luortions; with the reception he thought
proper te give olio brain+ of the Royal Filially that House
Amid rut interfere. Whew the question respectiNg the
Prioress of Wales's reception •t she drawing-moss hail
hers raised 11. that Manor, such • rolitrol over his Ma.
iesty's discreliens was distinctly &chord by etirlianient.
I he Sovereign hail the 6184011,1114 a privilege of regalasieg his
Coast and Ins family as IA pleased, without Parlinaseutary
ronitul. Ihe question of tine Greenmailing wag ilea one is
which the Knelt suergisesl his awn discretion • precisely Pi
the same 'wises* that discretion was if:teen:Nl reopening
her Majesty. mouse being iutroduced &appals buns the
flout Emily in the Litwin, sail opal ito aihniesson or re-
Jeri lot there, he oust say, au Werner* of the guilt oe inisa•
ireace of the Illustrious Personage could fairly attach. It
wasting questions to have disturbed the wrier of the Liturgy.
sod souther I. lowa wonted • saw, obeli • sew form was
regularly called fora, mid to have recisaissiengleil the intra-
dos two of her Majesty's 'maw in the place of that of the Pei*.
iron of Watts, world have b.es eathiaq rim than a mockery

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to disa,King. With reaped to her fillajetitylireeeption abroad,
hem. d snail's/41y date, that ho far bark 1811 oedema oo
that point bad been trandinitted abroad, whi'th grew out of a
consmonigallradi home Mr. Brooke Taylor, the resiiksd
animas"- at Midgard. Those orders wry. dictated in
• spirit sit propriety and good firelihig, and left no
fair ground or complaist to arise ow the port of her Majesty.
The diplomatic 'grata of this toiletry *ere rertaialy not to
be the agents of intredscing her Majesty at foreign Courts;
bet miring the question of public mceptitia„ they were to
give every facility to bee toiltrenience when travelliwg, or
when resident, and at 11. propier•niomeat he would be prepar-
ed to libel, fittest the instructions gives. *bens, that they had
these thing* in charge, sod with a view of removing any ob.
slacks arbiels might be is the way of her Majesty c g to
this cc:pantry, if she should have thought proper so to du.
FOrrigie Courts were certainly nut lit the habit of receiving
pertains who were not received at their own Courts, and he
considered that the misery (far he would call It no less) which
had arisen was s consequence of bee Majesty not choosing
to travel in any other than her public character, sad more
particularly from her Majesty hiving bees in the bibs of
preasink her public sliestime tepee the anthorittes of the
Contitient ; first, certainly, as feeling it was the most proper
channel through our own Minister... and afterwards to the
foreign Ministers, applying fur guards of lionoUr, sad such
other honours as were certainly indices of grate and favour.
As to the question whether any unbecoming spirit IqA beta
displayed on her Majesty expressing her di-termination to
come to this country, she must have here satiated that such
• step must lead to the most painful iliscsiasioas, because
from the moment that she came to claim all the honours of
Queen of England, sad claimed to be lodged is the palaces
lot the country, with other privileges, from that Moment his
Majesty's Government had too option ; when thee.persiniary
provision came to be settled, ti,.l could not haie suffered the
Hoare to remain in ignoraoce of the miller. On these
grounds it wan declared to her MajcslY,,that it would be
then impassible for the Crown to (rave Parliament blind-
folded, sail that the whole of the case must be submitted to
it. It would, we doeld, be thought that it would have been
more congenial to the hospitality and character of the coun-
try, that if, instead of seeking a reddest, in • private
elwellisig, a palace had been provided for her : that, he was
aware, was the general feeling—(Hear, hear, hear)—bet he
• must diatenctly deny !hit it violet be chimed u• a matter of
' right. On the part of the highest mistbortty, he must declare
that there was wit isselmattoa in that built quarter to lessen
tbe comforts of the Queen. He would weal to the recollection
of the House, le proof of this, that on a former occasion,
through the instrumentality of that House, • greater sum
haul torn proposed to be settled on her Majesty, than was
by hei•elt thought necessary, and that such disposition still
continued, was clear from this, that the moment it was
known her Majesty had landed, a communication had been
made by the dire-vino of his Majesty to the Treasury,
throsigh the proper channel (her banker), that whatever ad-
vances might he required by the Queen, would be replaced.
in order that no interruption might arise on that bead, end
at the SAW time the Queen was informed that she hid only
to send her wilt to choose a suitable residence for her. The
Noble Lord again fleeted that the Queen bad any claim
of right to reside is. one of the Royal Palace*, and wool,'
✓eran to the rmullectioa of the Honey, that several Member,
of the Royal Family did slit reside i• any of the
rilarea of the country; therefore, unless Gentlemen
were prepared to conituil that there was something so
peewits.. in this instance, that in taste as well as in duty
they wiry bound to mete shit an exception, there was no
other remind no which the claim could be rested. Fur al
thenath her Majrdy mud be acknowledgid as Queen in
I every legal point of view, yet she was not recognised as en-
titled to claim those M rs, whickdepended on the recog-
nition of shit Illustrious Person, whose undoubted right it
was so to acknueledge or refuse to acknowledge. He had
• thus gone curettedy through and touched upon all the points,
hut if he had untitled any, be hdped to have an opportunity
st some future period of the d'aeassion, of rectifying the
omission. He could not disguise from himself the difficulties
that were incidental to the subject uuder di-tension, bat be
trusted, what the difficulties might be, the House would
have wisdom enough tit overcome them, and that the subject
would be gone info with a patient spirit of dehberation, and
with an absence of all warmth or intemperastru of feeling;
and that the tone so taken by Parliament would be answered
by the adoption of a corresponding Some by the country at
large. Rut if there existed any disposition to make this a
question of excitement to the people—if Are Majesty about.'
wd,,essuately have knt her ear to any mischievous and false
advisers—(Near, hour, hear)—if it was thought that she
could receive soy thing but opprobrium by beteg involved
its surh couaael.—if she bad as enemy who desired to rea-
der 'bereave'. hateful to all honnt to candid men—it world
be by advising the publication of partial and garbled duce-
mews, of remit u. e disclosers of letters, sot to Parliament
hut to perilous out of doors, whole objects were to 'wife
the passion. of the public. If her Majesty had beets so
misled. he horn' the result of this evening. deliberation
*wild awaken her attention to the mischiefs likely to result
then-how The Piot& Lord cuiscluded by moving, that the
Paper. which he lied laid on the table of the (louse, its a
seated hag, be referred to a Select Committee, with isistruc-
iitose to 'Somme sod report to the House thereon.
Mr. 113notJtHfiR said, he could assure the House,
that although he rose with a full itnprenion of the
vast iniporiatice and delicacy or the 'object. yet lie
could ftel soothing but satisfaction that the hour
had arrived in which a bill investigation would take
plieee. It was matter of the deepest anxiety, whe-
ther his regarded it as touchiog the interests of the
illustrious individual immediately concerned. or as
touching the interests of that family with which
she wits conuected by blood and marriage, or as it
regarded the constitution of the country, resting
se it thd on the dignity, resiwctability, and popu-
larity of that faintly. It was to l'arlisment that
that Illustrious Lady made her appeal. She court-
rd no mobs; her sagacity, her propriety of mind, had
not beets injured by thst cause which trequrnily hurt
lilt delicacy of tile.feinale character; obewsice abroad ;
constrained absence Irons her faintly, where such
(Moog, were beet cherialied and preverved. He
implored the justice of the House io the outset of
this inquiry, fur be anticipated (although it should
be referred up stairs) not a little discussion would
take place ig that House. He begged the House
to consider the unprotected. almost friendless state
of hive unfortunate. though illustrious client, mid
certainly not the less wifortutiate for being ilium'''.
our. deprived of her natural protector. and fur Nl-
moot six years a minima ebroad. limier these cir-
cumstons es. is put it to the House as men, as grit.
Heinen, whether it should be Into severely consider-
ed if she had listened to well-meant recounnesida-
tion—recommetulatiou not of uhsolute wisdom. he
would ac kotowleilso—(Cries of fleer, Gear)—but li
certainly well meant ; therefore not a word of felPre.,'
hens should fall from his hits on the occasion.
But it was to ibis House that she now looked, and
it ought not to be considered surprising oli her re-
turn utter such an absegice. that her heart should
open to tau overflow at the lumen feeling of the
people of-this country ; that' she should be greatly
soothed to find how soden' The affection was with
Which she was regarded; not to have expressed gee.
(dude lilt such demoosirstintis of love would have
been both improper and
trious Princess, The Noble Lord argued as if
the Queen sod her responsible advisers conceived
of the Committee as r tribunal of ultimate iodic*.
lure; but the Noble Lord was ruisteken, he hod
not so conceived of it. and thertforelis (Lord,Car
'Weigh's) account of the limited notate of the
powers of the Committee was 00 varpriait to him,
and no columbium to her.idejesty. Viticksiew that
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Cittintiittee. grilse*. trust be called and eternise '
ail; she Imes* that, hill* of attainder and of pains
and penalties, ihor monsters of legislation of
former 'MIL+. Pinot nut he taken as • model by
the ricketti end 'haltered filinistry which the Noble
Lord represented. the Ministry of which Mr.
Putt was at the head (strong a. it was). would have
found suet k a prnceedisig beyond their power.—
On all the Noble Lord's 'Minoring there had not
been a rhadgw ore shade of a rerson to convince the
Illustrious Personage in questing' that it was better
to come to Parlisment. Vl'oultl any men believe
that by calling this a hill of indictment tt could at
all he assimilated to that legal.mode of proceeding?
it take in any one man who heard it? A
Grand Jury in the first ;place were sworn; and
secondly, they were ',Andy impartial. It was a
matter of perfect isidifferetice to the Jurors of our
Lord the King. if A. B. did 'tinnier C. U. and
should the hill he found, in the ul ttttt 41C stage of
t w proceedititf the party accused had just as much to
do. in striking the {panne, as the person presetting.*
Here the examination was conducted in the absence
of the ',tarty, and on what evidence ? documentary.
Hot personal—scraps and pieces of paper. corning
from beyond the Alps—collected 1.400 Init., oil,
by persoon sew out from this country for a purpose
thexplicable at the time, hut it wow appeared it wits
to save • Committee of the House of CO(71100n•
the trouble of examining witnesses. He was in
utter ignorance of the contents of those papers;
but what he knew was this, that there was nothing
but paper., and that they were all within that
hag—tint • living witness was to be prodeiCeil—
the papers would be authenticated—the siguattire
proved ; part of them, doubtless, front that Com-
mission which had been sitting ten months at
Mulcts, employed in a way--[Here the Houton,-
stile and Learned Gentleriemo .toot
must regret that a Gentlemen of the highest charac-
ter—one of his Majesty's Learned Counsel. and
10411 universally esteemed by his frisouls—one who
would shortly succeed to the judicial character-1u
short, the expectant Master in Chancery—that he
should so hold himself (for as they were talking
with such freedom of the very highest personages.
he must be allowed to express bus curl-ajar) —that this
Gentlemen 'should have been brou4lit in to act where
agents of a very different character mig'it have been
expected to have had the employstieni—that such
a man should be employed its setting down the
scandal and tittle-tattle collected from wow-houses,
Gnus porters of Chateaus, from cast-off servants—
that so much time should have been employed in
taking down evidence of that degraded class of
witnesses, so well knowu in Courts of Justice,
though always discouraged there—Aiscarded ser-
vants—that limn such impure sources enough
had been collected to fill the green bog on the
table. he must regret. He had thought higher of
human nature. he had conceived more favourably of
professional honour, and be could not but feel as
one profeesional man must at seeing the degradation
of *mother. If such employments must be, let them
be performed by hinds which could not be more
sullied by the occupation. The Noble Lord ar-
gued as if all which the Committee could do was
as nothing, because it would nut be an act of
attainder; but he would say that the Report of a
Cosionittee of that House was no light matter to •
subject of this realm, whether of the highest or
the lowed clues, and he would put it to any Hon.
Gentleman how he ',mold like VI persons to be
chosen by those who were under the influence of
one who entertained no frieisilship (be would state
it at the lowest) for him. but, according to the
phrase of the Noble Lord, between whom there
were 6' irremediable diffneesceo," not leading.
he would allow, to sourness or hostility, but
certainly leading to a frame of mind not fa-
VisUr4ltle to the person accused, •• How (con-
tooted the Honourable Nod learned Gentlemen)
would that Gentleman like a Committee thus se-
lected by his antagonist to inquire into the whole
or his conduct for the last six years of his life. pass.
ed I MO miles from the seat of the inquiry. with-
out one witness, or hr knowing what the chargss
were ? How, if that Contemner, so composed. and
deliberating tit rho knee, stud privacy. were to place
on record an unfavourable result of the inquiry.
what would lie not give of his ample goods, whist
would he not forego of his hopes and expectations,
rather than submit even the slightest of his peculi.
arities to the judgment of a Committee so compel-
ed ? 1 upper! to the House, 1 amoral to the Noble
Lord, whether, if he were to select the smoothest
phrase of his oily rhetoric to convey the decision of
that Committee, still. if it says aye to the question,
if further inquiry be necessary, I am traduced,
am blasted by the report of that tribunal."—(Hear.)
The Host. Member cot tt i tt ord. lie had then but
one course—to appeal for an open trial, amid
even then the witnesses might die, sod the
clearing of his character and fame must theta
rest nit the uncertain tenure of all human pre-.
formances. It was therefore vain to liken a pro-
ceeditio hewing it. its train such important possible
consequences. to the proceeding of • Grand Jury.
Here was a Committee to inquire into that which
bad been inquired into fourteen yeses ago ; but
he would say, let them act upon that opinion which.
they have already.—(Erne. hear.)—This, the
Honourable Gentleman said, was a project of
the Nissan-is to get the shelter of better urines than
their own. because they would not themselves fare
the inquiry like men. thus stated the risks
of the istrestig.stion as proposed. and lie would ark,
if any Hoot. Gentleman would wish his character
to be On in the keeping of such a tribunal p Sr.
cret Committees mod greets bags might do vety well
as r groundon which to found an sopplicet fur a
new law of sedition; but had that ally analogy to
thin pretend case, where they ptoponwil examining
the life and character of the highest subject of the
realm ? As to the assess of Bialtop A sterbury and
Sir 'Ebonies Itunitould, which bad been alluded
to. in the lestsonetittoised, the proceedings com-
menced. it war true, in a Select CoMlolllre j hut
it was incidentally. and evidence was at terwards rota-
senora at this bar of tlw (loose I they dud not deride
00 papers soul recounts. but ots living witnesses.
A. to Bishop Atterloury's case, be aioultted whether
assy papers were produced, excepting tbe letter
Went. d by Dean Swift. I lere they might, it
was true, examine wintriness. but in the absence of •
the party accused, end without the presence of her
professional advisers; sod this was owing to this
equality stol fairness of the Noble Lord ! He
trudered him the thrill'', of hie sollerdne st.d

himself. foe this care of the fuses of juetiCt,
while the eubstatice was not quite at. well st.
tendril to. He objected t• the Noble lA/ire ape.
cid, pleading .bent renunciation of titles nut be.
ing • renunciation of rights ; his opinion of the
propoeitien was the same as at the lino, that it
called upon the (astern to say that though she
could not, technically speaking, renounce her legal
right., yet as there was something about her which
would lint hear the light. she w:4. 10 temouisce the
title or Queen, and the Noble Lord informs the
Home that was often done by f•trriati Powers wheal
tiatnellook ; but he believed that although they took
another title, it was al ways • royal title, and generally
one appertaining in the family; but here it was an
retirees Wiwi that the Queen was not only to give
up her own title. but was prohibited taking that of
any of the Royal Family. Wise' would that be
but to admit that she was unworthy of bearing the
name ; and it must also be observed, there was a
great difference between ■hstrinini from wring •
title, and a person receiving 50.0001. a yell,. for so
dOIIIK. It was on such grounds that lie had felt
obliged at once to advise her Majesty not to enter-
tain the proposition. Here he would beg to ob-
serve, that in a published acennot which had
been alluded tn. it was said that after he rib"
served the indignation of her Majesty he had
give.. such advice ; but instead of the word offer.
it should have been beforg. This, for bps own
justification, he had mentioned to her M ',jetty
in the presence of his Honourable Colleague,
and she had been graciously pleased to admit that
the fact was according to his recollection of ii ;
for, prior to her Majesty having an opportunity
of expressing her opinion. he had uttered his
disapprobation of the propositioo. Another pub-
lics' l of that morning had been guilty of
a most unwarrantable liberty, in the use of his
and Lord Hutchinson's name. An argument
was there built on the pUblication of the other
piper. that the Queen's case was out a good one.
The print to which he alluded was 'ne Monolog
Post. In the observations which he had made
out the, preceding publication, he had not said
the letter was • garbled our; he had said the cur.
respondence wee garbled, because though the
letter of Lord Hutchinson way given, his answer
to it was not. printed. The a*peraion iii The
Morning Pos was cruel. es it respected him es
a professional men, and still more es it regarded
his illustrious client, whose guilt was inferred. He
never had advised any delay, but he Counsel-
ed the immediate rejection of the proposition.
If such terms hail beet. offered as would not have
been discreditable fot the Government to propose,
sod fit for the Queen to yield to, he would have
thought it his duty to have advised his illustrious client lo
eiessider of Atli. to pease at least before she determined,
and sot to go • step too far, rather than lose the right of
*perfect triadic/Ilion by nut going far eisough—to stipulate
for what might be necessary to support her imam-race, and
yield (as math as was cousistent with the prole-dims of her
character) to secesoity,on as honourable and satititally salts-
factory engagement. lie 'assented that the offers which bad
been made were each as to prevent the possibility of agree-
ment. He expatiated oa the trossequesers likely to follow
trust the failure of segociation. The interests of the family
were deeply concerned. Who Was there able to pronotaffice
where as inquiry of the mature of that berme them would
end? The House were piresisiag on towards a gulf which it
was their hyphens to do almost say ailing to avoid. Those
who had munaelled the presest aseasore knew well, or they
ought to have kisown, that if onee they commenced that in-
quiry, every thing amilected with it, from first to last, must
be ransacked sad discussed—all the lives and eiressitostancer
of the inestristes parties would be held sop fur the public to
behold and descant epos. The House would then wituees
a Session like that of 'keit. year ago, when gossipping and
scandal kft off their ordinary entertainmeut—when pantie,
teased from their oppositioe—when all other Manse.. stood
still—because every body was engaged in discussing the pri-
vate habits sad ioclinatious of the Heir Apparent and his
Mutinied. Consort. He must be a matt of anoniehing
wisdom—of more sagacity than be had ever knows any man
to possess—he most be of stiraeolous sagacity (be did not
believe the Noble Lord himself so be such a man)—(.4
Irtag—wleco could, when once the 'object became agitated,
pronounce where it would huish. There was more danger
in that attention which the subject most of orceseity excite,
than is open discontents. It was like the embrace of
trissekery, more lb be avoldtd than the straggle with •
declared foe. It was like the bite of rabbid' animals, where
there was snitch more to be dreaded from the effects of the
foam than of the teeth. He cautioned the House agates.
soother danger, into which they were baste tt ll In ease
the Inqairy weal use so far as to require defend*, the profes-
sional persoss who would have to misdeed that defeat,
would feel themselves besot' by the slyly which they owed
to sleek employer., to minder nothing bat she safely of their
client.. He and his colleague had other ties; they were
Members of Parliament; they could out give that entire
sod devoted application to such a bunions, which those
whose professional aid they would have to call in would
afford mid act op to es • pension's!' obligation, lid which
was the indivesisable reqoititeoa the effort. of every limiest
advocate. lie must he • wise man then • maw Ailed for
greater affairs Mae those of the Milan Tribunal, who could
*hew the 1111111• C where the effects of inquiry wools' cease if
once entered impost. He would he a bold man, who wills all
these prospects before him, dial not feel the most 111170.
one wish, if there ',omitted set the barest puasibility
of punnet( • stop to such proceeding., that they should be
reliatioishrd, and she negortation contiuned fifear.;—
He imptiteed the House, for the sake of the Ilion. was
parties, for the sake of Its,ir country, of the morals of their
hawses, of their wives mid daughters, to remember earniretty
what took place it years before; when the upcuing of a
newspapei mist hove been as affair of pain laud trouble to
every man who eared fur the character mod morals of hi.
children; he implored them to pause, and try if other own.
orres.coold not he substituted, and if there was not none
enough eves thew to rater into some better arrasgemeni.
There were three parties desirous that they should worm.,
on their comic—the King, who felt it to be mecca-as, to
have some decision on the 'object—the Queen also fch that
inquiry was accessary to give security to her iflllMilehtal ho-
boes* and diameter, to the discredit of which inquiry alone
could pot an end; for this pullover she had kit peace awl
security,asd exposed herself to danger and Moult is her awn-
toy to oadergo exastistation. The third pasty iniercased to
those proceedings were those chiefly without the
whose disposed appetite fur slasder own.' only give up the
entertainment of private 'caudal, because they would hs
sore of glutting it with details of the affairs of the highest
persuasive I.t the state. This party world be most grossly
disappuissied if the House dot silt go on. lie declared him-
self atruogly and earnestly ischaeil to hope for awl to pro-
mote nu agrrentest by to cociation. 11. would saki,* those
also who were absent the King to do their duty flionly, with.
out messidetrieo what were likely to lee She results, washout
fearing cosseqweaces, mot onions* feeling any ical..lielf of the
party. That potty was not so "oak or debased by the seal of
faction, all to sake advantage of auy Ministers so ctredlot.
'skewed. If soy once...wows weir to be appointed fur deem,
011110r01101 of tbseharging their duty conscieistnessly os ao
affair of that importance, seek enceemors vmit" not Ise
found within the walls of that House.—(Leaf cheers.)—la
reply to now, who thought it the best way to procerd, the
thooperable and Leans's, Geutleotan offered the worthless-
ness of the evidence tendered. Mr. Whithorad and himself
were the only two persons 111 whom the papers were abeam 1.11
a former . swank, ; this coottorts might hove perhaps in.
'efemad visor. Me bad asked before for the saguaro. moo
. whet mold tell WIND, lbs elects of slIC11•11 isiptiry "meld sty-
.,. r . •
•

Sisal,. Ho es. wialta to &wooer *hive.** the gte *die
man who toolitiororin them heftwehaitil 0 what time 'big
inquiry would cease! The Pain board had then ten.
months to gather the matter of arrusstior He die nog
think that it would take ten weeks or ten day... litsro Hat
• whole pile of' facto and evidessce oat of the Poo.. He,
staked his las, however that it woold be neeesoary. err of
all torsions, kilo the Assraetee sad ereitilrility of the wo
weaors. One of thews. al he hoe.., toot been .tos7
charge., by the Pi tore,* fur having comoott. it so
art of felony. There wore other witness.* Olio had hero to
commusitrate with rich other no the osellect of chis.ge.
This would make it it y t.. call eir,r, 6,111 wins ha I
✓tes. heard any thing of the tnaUrr. It wood be neeerwary. ••
it were, Co use a drag-11.1, and rialese....• '.y rt to rion.
every part of t store all those who any ti,fe.c•.•
:ion. lie roniniestird satirically on lift .hie.,
tlte Noble Lord (Castlereagh) tool rivets to the rooditioii•
which bad been offered to the (bolo. lie remtilked o;•.,
great warmth an the itclignitie, .9 eti,.. it 1.461
subjected Ilbfoll4l, by the heti.. i ..1r I.,•notio ttiot.reis
and creatures, who shonght it a.•... 1 g 1 tit.... f.r them
with the British fiovertioirni (*loch hr 'eras ilo• firtLest
from believing of Ministers). to offer h. r irosioiliysetioics
He instanced the w,thArawlng the buoy gn.rd tr.se r!dt
Qneess by the t;riveristieetti of Home, ISO ...0 a. ri b.. mese
litiown to the Pope and cardinals that h.. name had been
left !set of the Litter(); after praying for !or dori•g sett -
teen years. ,He gave soother tower!, of a liamslre.sl.2
Envoy, whorls she hal treated with great biodocut ao4 h. a.
pitaloy while on his way to the Holy *a, *loth the Baru.,
generously repaid by lifting lee servants tor Pr,etts if
streveation ; awl hiring a blarkunith iu the neighoortiood
to make false keys, by which he was thahlett to rot. the
Queen of her private papers. lie was, how.. •r, either!, de-
feated if his (Merl, as the papers which be •Intr rather west
Su 'malls tier innocence. A young naval Lieutenant to
the suileof the Queen; with the Indiscreet bet rhsvalroti• .
feelingswhich b. longed to his kitten and time of life, re-
quired the BUM. IQ gore him personal saiisfortson. The
Hiroo took refuge foe • short lime in Aldan; but br;lig
preterit by the young of be removed to the sir ighhonriqg
hulls; hese also being pressed by a such of tuountrin war-
fare. he was nearly brought SO lake the 6.:1.1, when the
Awaiiian Citorerstioseot interfered, mid rent h.in out of the
etootory; not for picking lucks, hut to prevent his Artstisig
• duel The llounerahle and Learned Gentlemen pointed
out the behavioo• of souther Hatiuvrrisn Baron, who had
called the Queen. Caroline of Brunswick. soul Caroline of
'mitre than name her as Queen Caroline. Her Ma-
jesty, in calling for inquiry, looteateti *grins' say tweet
inquiry, under eliatuirrr name it might he disguised. Mao
required that the warmest. should be exansiued us her aue•
*enc., that she might be enabled to auifront lONISE After
further oliservatioas the Honowrahle Grittlrman rondo& •
a long and eloquent epeerh. and sat dowu *Midst the loud
and genrr..l applause of the House.
Mr. Casatao server rose with more pain and
difficu:ty thou on this' occasion. lie agreed with
every sylloble which had been uttered by the 1100.•
and Learned firtetlrmen as to the cuiocnievour et.

fecis which weer like
ly to ensue from parsiiittg tbr
inquiry. He gore the Learned Gentleman full
credit for being sincere awl zealous in el.llo.liVtigfil.g
to suatesge the affair by neg.H•lation. Ile Jellied
that the blame of the failure of that stegociatiail
war to be attributed to the Gotertimerit. If the
t-rma offered were ►uelt 09 et the first blush upper-
ed ohor sssss rly ut;fit for the Qiieett's secentiotce, clay
were nut the modifications, now hinted at by the How. cod
Learned Gentleman proposed to Governetelit IN fore Week.
inn off the treaty ? Why wan that step advised and Op nr
which, ■s it w tlerlartil, would at once pat so rod to all
aeguciation? He tint-oiled the etplanation give, to the
eitoditions which had bee. offered by Lord Caidlnrnagh. lie
contended that there was nu ittlentams or dintimishise her
Royal digaity in those offers. The note which had bees
proposed was oae which had berm settled upon on past ore..
i calves. When the marriage took place, ilw Act secured the

Prowess of Wales &jointers of 56,0001. tot the death of the.
Prince. The same sum Bad hem. settled a, her its 1814; sod
she death of the Lime Manion/ made it wereesney to Megaton.
In the House another pecuaiary arraugentent I'. smelling her.
Tree Right Hous.Gent. expressed considerable dtaappoiatatest
at the defeat of the aegociation which had beets at tempied.aad
much inure disappointment at the declarations which had air-
companied it. The Hon and Learned Gent. opposite had
been pot into possession of the plan of Ministers, and be
(Mr. C) had felt no doubt that when Mr. Brougham art off
fur St Omer's, he had carried with him such 1.1111111. lieu.
and terms as must of necessity lead 11/ a satisfactory Ctiel-
elusion. His surprise was great at beefing that lite mai-
eternal' was broken off. Ministers had been blamed fur that.
The House was little prepared to hear what he was about to
tell them. Government had in the commencement oft!, hone-
mess made one Glee step. They hail harmed ma comentasha.
title made to them its secret, of course fist ratillltsou metal-
ed them from making knows, the Imam of the party. Alt the
steps which hail since been taken had been the aoggeetione
contained in that communication. They had been asked
how it could ever enti r into the heads a Mohnen to offer
such terms; aid all the terms were stole as had been pro-
pos. d to them through this channel. lie was little ftrepasd
to hear id the sudden indignatioo of the Queen at the,.
terms, whirls he had received such good reasons to camel
would Ise graciomly received. He was more surprised still
to lean the preconceived resentment against th-se terms
which had been avowed by the Haanistrahig and (.tarog2
Gentlemau opposite. He eistered into a defence of the con-
ditions which had been proposed. He had Piektre bad
the honour of bring consulted Icy the Queen its IE4, an
to the proposal which was then made to her to fiat
the country. He had advised her, under all the tiftsam-
stances, bat she would find herself moor happy abroad
that she could pionstb!y beja England, after arch irrecon-
cilable displeasure as her preselect had excited is her ills,-
creams Consort. lie world give the same advice now ' • and
why did he give this advice btfare &cash he saw
at that time that fiction had marked her fur its oast
—(Cheeett from Dm Mimi eerie sisle7-•-berati.e hr per-
craved that she would become the rallying puiut of Pa--
tired intrigue—(Load cries from the Opposilio4 Rsechse..—
•n.l of disaffectiou. Had aoy thing transpired wore, or w..•
there any thing obseivable in tie ate Ore of the peer, e
business which could reasonably induce him to altar that
°maim, ? tin fir (solo it that he felt that nom-114110 be U. w
entirely corroborated. A. long as his Majesty sated as ke-
Kcal, as long as he continued to exercise a vicarious
city, no comideraliou would have induced Cohesions'st to
advise or countenance Ike agitation of Ibis qutstiost ; but
au the denim, of hi* late and the accersiun of his premut
Shiest), it mansard a new apses, and thing% could NM Linger
et sod still. Ti.. erasure of a name froui Ih, Linrgy
did sod necessarily imply an indignity or degradation
to the subject of Ilse charge. The Duke of Cumberland atm
always pitiyed kir in the public setae, during lliCreigu
(Ceorge II.; he supposed that on the accession of Geo 111.
he coutiouril the same respects .1 ;serum as be was before,
hot his nano. ..311 thencefocth hest. In the memo, In-
stance, the 4.1Ptet.1.).1 vas a part Vie dement cont. Ill-
plated at the time it was resaved on. TIME altel/Ikln .11
that bead was adulated .01. the 114111.• .1.7 that the propiisaie
for accoinniodstom were mask to the (togas. And lie fully
agreed with those who called it a tietvral measure, as • it. p
that inferred neither degradation nor the contrary. Me had
conseiraluatily l•elivv. .1 that those proposals were such as
would he accepted, and it' the whole matter were referred
mho to his judgment, he saw wo masses why he should
out again reetimineoll the roam liken, as that moth
rooducive to the' boaster of the Crown, the peat) of
the canary, and the tranouillity and happineas a the
Nord Petsoitage most nearly concerned. He hopeeVtlarie-
fore, hr had delivered the Mittostry from the charge of
a willing . ester of the question, the whole difficolty and
altos, of which tar fuhy felt. He was willing so admit
that there was no case vu precisely sinalolnies to The pee.
sent, as In formah a pr.- asst. But wino the Omni was in
a situation iu which experience was sr thohtht
that it was is the spirit of live Curetitleson to 'appeal to
Parliament fur 1111
was squally so
Huss. and Leans.,
g.eat fault with
whist' filteeseertfia
is ovum 111111.1.0111.71,-.

10 rUillelle I, alatee, said aialatubr, •Nd shot
at that Parbaidrai attradd slime N. I'ite
.d Gratlraisa (Mr. lima Mad fael..4
that part ar WMa N, t.p....e.,,
t istiestirtion beNurtio *wet Dor t•
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