The Sun.
London, England, 1855-07-03 00:00:00

COLONIAL.

TEA..—The news from China has had no effect, there
being buyers of common Congon at 80, and sellers id
above that rate.

SUGAR.—Thero has been but little passing in either
home or foreign parcels, but holders are firm sind obtain
full rates for what they sell. The lower kinds of colonial
are wanted, but in better sorts there is not much doing.
Refined is firm, with au increasing home trade inquiry,
and brown lumps cannot be obtained under 46s Cal per cwt.
There wore lauded la t week at the East and West India
Docks 2,776 hhds, 210 tes, 863 lbs ' • there were taken for
home use 21,014 hhds, 210 tes, and 664 bls.

COFFEE.—Native Ceylon has been in much request,
good ord at 48s per cwt on the spot, and 47s 6d to arrive.
Plantation has sold at fuller prices. Mocha has still an
upward tendency.
RlCE.—There is a fair demand for cargoes of American
afloat at 12s Zd to 12s 6d per cwt, but with few sellers at
these rates.

SALTPETRE. —Good Bengal 51 per cent. has been sold at
30s 6d per cwt.
TALLOW.—The market has been quiet. P.Y.C. at 52s
6d per cwt on the spot.

NAVAL AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE.

The steam-transport Sir Robert Sale, No: 88, arrived
at Spithead yesterday morning from the Black Sea. She
left Malta on the 17th of May. On the 17th of June,
in lat. 39.32 N. long. 12.51, she spoke the bark Anglia,
and on the 27t1:, in lat. 49 5 N, low. 10.36, the Alfred,
from Calcutta for London. She brings home a few
Government stores. Her Majesty's yacht Victoria and
Albert was taken out of dock at Portsmouth at 4 a.m.
yesterday morning, since which time she has been re-
ceiving her furniture. She leaves for her trial cruise
this morninr.r. The Fairy and Elfin are also getting their
final finish for the season in Portsmouth dockyard. The
Myrmidon paddle steam-sloop was swung in Portsmouth
harbour yesterday, and had her compasses
proved. Her
Majesty and suite are expected at Portsmouth, on
Thursday, on their way to Osborne.
from Southampton last evening with 56 horses and 40
at Wool-
The screw steam-transport Norrean, No. 155, sailed
men of the 6th Dragoon Guards, under the command of
Captain Norbury.
The Pioneer and Lady Lambton, screw steam trans-
yard, aad nom at
coals,h &c.,
ports,wic h haveha v
left
fctofmo
rp completed d loading
Crimea.
as undergone a
fosrteari:::eewsissteehlrvice.
WToohlew cAhl,etcotob
epfiatdtdelde
The Centaur, 6, paddle steam-vessel, which recently
thorough repair at Deptford dock
arrived !rein the Baltic, has been taken into the King
William Dock, at Woolwich, to be examined.
Several batches of troops, amounting in all to 655,
with 30 officers, arrived al Liverpool yesterday, as de-
tachments to supply vacrincies in various regiments now
in the Crimea. They will leave Liverpool by the next
transport sailing from that town.
On Saturday a detachment of
the 11th Hussars, for
some time past stationed at Exeter, left that city to
embark at Plymouth for the •
Crimea. They were about
90 in numl)er. A
killens smalldetachment of the 6th Ennis-
, who had previously arrived from Canterbury,
also took their departure on the same day.
On Saturday a draught of the 71st or Glasgow High.
landers, numbering about 200 rank and file, left the
Broomielaw, Glasgow, by the Liverpool steamer Lynx,
for the Crimea. They wore accompanied to the quay by
an immense number of sympathising friends and rela-
tives. The men were full of ardour and enthusiasm.

The troop of the Queen's Bays, at. Longford, has been
ordered to movo to Athy. Lieutenant-Colonel Trench
is in command.

A large body of troops, comprising detachments -from
the 90th, 62d, and 14th Infantry Regiments, arrived in
Dublin on Saturday from Mullingar, there to await
orders for embarkation for the Crimea. The 69th depot,
nbw in Dublin Garrison, proceed to Kilkenny to-day to
relieve the depot of the 72d Eighlanders stationed there,
and who will form part of the next body of troops em-
barking for the seat of war.
The 56th Regiment, at present stationed in Dublin,
expect to embark at Kingstown for the Crimea in the
course of 10 days.
The Royal Tyrone Fusiliers have been ordered to hold
themselves in readiness for embarkation at Liverpool,
to go to Sheffield barracks. They are called upon, for
the first time since embodiment, to give volunteers to the
regular army, previous to embarkation for
Their present strength is 36 officers and 600 men of all
ranks, being 400 below their full numbers. England.

MPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS-(YESTERDAY.)
_ ROYAL CO.IIMISSION.

The Royal assent was gi;enTycominission to the fol-
lowing bills :—Adrniuistration of Oaths Abroad ; In-
fants Marriages ; National Gallery (Dublin) ; Carnegie's
Restitution ; Great Northern Railway (Increase of
Capital) ; Colonial Life Assurance ' • Cork and Yougbal
Railway ; Metropolitan Railway ; Gomersal tnd Dews-
bury Road ; Basingstoke, Stockbridge, and lz)b-
combe Corner Road ' • Dundalk and Enniskillen
Railway ; Lighpill and Bordlip Road; Peterborough
and Wellingborough Road ; Stroud and Chalford Road ;
Rhymney Railway ; International Life Assurance So-
ciety; Bridport Road; Bridport and Broad Wiiasor Road ;
Bombay, Baroda, and Central India Railway ; North
Yorkshire and Cleveland Railwa Glasgow Water ;
y ;
'
Ayr Harbour; Aberdare Valley Railway • Birmingham
Canal Navigation ; Exeter and Exmouth Railway ;
Electric Telegraph Company ; Bognor Railway ; and
Sci nde Railway.
The Lords' Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor,
the Duke of Argyll, and the Earl of Harrowby.
Their Lordships adjourned during pleasure.

The LORD Cluastonwit took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.
SECOND READINGS.
On the motion of Lord REDESDALE the following
bills were read a second time, viz. :—Hedon and Hull
Roads; Glasgow, Sirkintilloch, and Baldernock Roads ;
Royal Medical Benevolent College ; West Bromwich
Improvement ; Dearness Valley Railway ; Derbyshire,
Staffordshire, and Worcestershire Railway (No. 2) ;
Stokes Bay Railway and Pier ; Torquay District
Churches ; England and Ireland Improvement Commu•
nication Railway; Great Northern London Cemetery ;
and Shrewsbury Improvement.
THIRD READINGS.

The following bills were severally read a third time
and passed :—Harvest's Estate ; Stockton and Darling.
ton Railway ; Royal London Militia ; Staines, Woking.
ham, and Woking Railway (alterations, &c.)
THE DEATH OF LORD RAGLAN.

Lord PANMURE said, since their lordships adjourned
on Friday last, he had received a communication an-
nouncing the death of Field-Marshal Lord Raglan. He
would not say more upon the subject at the present mo-
ment, but would present a most gracious message from
her Majesty.

The LORD CHANCELLOR then read the Royal
message, which stated that her Majesty, taking into con•
sideratioi the brilliant services performed by the late Right
Hon. Lord Raglan, Field-Marshal and Commander•in-
Chief in the East, and being anxious to confer some special
mark of favour upon the widow, and upon Richard
Henry, the son of the late distinguished nobleman, re-
commended their lordships to agree to any measure
that might be necessary for the accomplishment cf that
object.

Lord PANMIIRE moved that her Majesty's most
gracious message be taken into consideration tomorrow.
(Hear, hear.)

TICKETS OF LEAVE.
Lord ST. LEONARDS rose to call their lordships'
attention to the last return of the convicts to whom
tickets of leave had been granted. The noble and learned
lord having referred to the number of committals by
magistrates of ticket-of-leave men, said that it was quite
evident that the system had worked most injuriously,
and that the well-being of society generally demanded
some remedy.
Earl GRANVILLE entered into a, brief state-
ment, for the purpose of showing that the system could
not be considered a failure, and said that he would com-
municate with the Home Secretary upon the subject.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the returns
showed the number of persons who had been released to
be 1,5C0 or 1,600, would lead to the impression that the
alteration had turned that number of persons loose on so-
ciety. The fact was, that of that number 1,267 had
been sentenced to only seven years' transportation, and,
according to the old system, would have been turned
loose on society and absolutely discharged. So far as
they were concerned, there had been no alteration, ex-
cept that under the ticket-of-leave there was the power
of recapture in case of relapse into crime. There were
267 cases of persons who had been transported for ten
year& A large number of those would have been tran-
sported under the old law, and an allowance must be
made on that account. There were twenty persons who
had been transported for terms exceeding ten year;.
Probably a large proportion of these would have been
actually transported ; and that must be considered an
addition to the number turned loose on society. Making
proper allowances, he did not think that an addition of
100 had been made by the alteration of the law.
After a few words from the LORD CHANCELLOR,
The Duke of CAMBRIDGE-said that everything
Possible ought to be done to raise the condition of the
army ; and he considered it very unfortunate that
ticket-of-leave men should be allowed to enter the army.
The intercourse in the army was such that if a black
sheep was admitted into a regiment his presence was
felt throughout that regiment. (Hear.) Although he
admitted that the question was a difficult one, he lived
some means would be adopted to prevent ticket-of leave
men getting into the service. (Hear.)
The COrtrericati,an then Ar.Pi"•
ACCIDENTS ON RAILWAYS BILL.
Their lordships then went into committee on this bill.
Clause 1 was agreed to.
On clause 2, which provides that the Board of Trade
shall have power to require the substitution of a bridge
or a level crossing.
Lord EGLINTON objected to the clause on the
ground thai the power conferred on the Board of Trade
Was much too great.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEYdefended the clause,
stating that the power had been conceded to the Board
of trade in every act passed sinced the year 1314.
Several verbal amendments having been agreed to,
Their lordships divided on the question that the clause
as amended stand part of the bill, when there appered—
Contents
Non•contents ..............
Majority for Government —4
The remaining clauses were agreed to and the bill
,
passed through committee. *
Bill was
report of amendments on the Assize and Sessions was brought up and agreed to.
The Union Charges Act Continuance Bill was read a
second time.
The Spirits (Ireland) Act Amendment Bill was read a
third time and passed.
Their lordships then adjourned,
o'clock. shortly before seven

HOUSE OF COMMON YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER. took the chair at four o'clock.
CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL.
bar
The Sheriffs of the City of London appeared at the
, and presented a petition from the Lord Mayor and
Corporation of the City of London, pravin;, that the
above bill be referred to a select committee, and that
they might be heard by counsel against certain provisions
thereof. The petition having, been read by the Clerk,
was ordered to lie upon the table.
The Lords' amendments to the Carlisle and Silloth Bay
Railway and Dock Bill were considered and agreed
The \Vem and Brorygarth Reads Bill was eonsider::d
and ordered to be read a third time.
The ermarty's Estate, Huddersfield Burial Ground
Amendment, and the South Shields Parochial Districti
Bills were read a second time.

MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.
Mr. PELMAN, Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod, ap.
peared to summon the attendance of the hou,e to' the
House of Lords, to hear the Royal assent given by com-
mission to various bills, (for which see Lords' report.)
The SPEAKER, accompanied, by sevens' hon. members,
then proceeded to the House of Lords.

WITHDRAWAL OF THE SUNDAY" TRADING
BILL.

On the return of the SPEAKER from the House of
Lords,
Lord GODERICH rose to put a question to the
those at•ri
noble lord the member for Middlesex (Lord It. Grosve-
nor) as to whether .
, • his intention to proceed with
the Sunday Trading Bill.
o
Lord R. GROS VEN OR said he was rather in an
awkward predicament.
with the intention of
be mobbed and bullied
out A. laugh.) Nobody liked t
of a measure—(hear,
bear)—which was introducedtisimilar
from
having effects so totally
dissimilar
hoped the house and the
was a ineasure which
observance of the
county would remember that this
was not intended to enforce the better
SaadY ; it was a measure
man's weekly labour—with no man's
which interfered with no
religious
opt
_
nions, but
as large an wasam eahsoulrideayinftoenr led
over-taxedto
procure.,
anaoutkt
of adieus of this country as
possible. But oonsiderin,o.
was one of those measures peculiarly liable to misrepre-
sentation and ridicule, and that m
ridicule had been most
exercised to sant
it, and considering also the late
unsparinglyiserepresheent:letsio:ol
nag
period of t
which we had arrived, and th formidable opposition
with which this measure was threatened
s threatened he did not
think it right to keep up the existin • for the
bare chance of passing the measure Za"sritationr
He begged, therefore, to move that the die°rn (Ilea
.)
for the third reading of the bill, which stoodeff the
day
nesday next, be now discharged. (Loud cries oofrlaWe)d.
The order of the day for the third reading of theeasri;n-
day Trading Bill was then discharged.
Mr. OTWAX congratulated the noble lord on the de-
termination he had now arrived at. At the same time
he could not but express his sincere regret that the noble
lord did not on a former occasion, when an appeal was
made to him, withdraw that bill. Re (Ur. Otway)
wished to ask the Secretary of State for the Home be-
partment whether, in consequence of the proceedings
that had taken place yesterday in Hyde park, which he
believed to be attributable mainly to the vacillation of
the Home Secretary--(cries of oh, and hear)—and to
the fact that the Government lied entirely abdicated their
functions, and that both the noble lord at the head of the
Government and the Home Secretary had expressed them.
selves with respect to this bill in a most flippant manner
and had acted with the greatest vacillation—he believed
it was to that that the tumult is liyde-park yesterday

was owing, and to which was also to be attributed the
fact that 104 persons were confined in the gaols of the
metropolis—be wished to ask the Secretary of State
for the Home Department vihetber it was his int,entiiin

to take any steps to procure the liber.,Coo of those 104
persons who were now in gaol for having assembled he
(Mr. Otway) believed, legally and properly, in Hyde-park
yesterday, and whether he would lay upon the table a
copy of the instructions that had been issued on that oc-
casion to the police ? (Hear, hear.)

Sir G. GREY considered the hon, member for Staf-
' ford had no grounds for charging him with vacillation
in this matter, seeing that he (M?. Otway) took no part
in the discussion of this bill when in committee. (Mr.
OTWAY—I voted against the second reading.) He (Sir
G. Grey) expressed his opinion at the time the bill was
in committee on various clauses, and he was prepared to
express them again on the third reading of the bill, and he
did not consider he could be justly charged with vacillation.
It was not a Government bill, but introduced by the
noble lord the member for Middlesex, and supported by
the majority of the metropolitan members. (Hear.)
He was informed by the police in the course of the week
that 11 or 12 notices had been issued calling on the
people to assemble in Hyde-park on Sunday last, which
it was feared would lead to some disorder, and there
could not have been a greater dereliction of
duty on his part than his permitting such a
monster meeting to be held at all on the
Sunday, which was an interference with that free
enjoyment of these parks by the public, and a privilege
which the people of this country possessed, scarcely
equalled by any other city or town on the continent.
(Hear.) In accordance with his directions notices were
issued stating the illegality of the meeting, and a large
body of police stationed there in the event of any out-
break, and it was not until the carriage way had been
obstructed, and the noise and hooting caused some of
the horses in carriages and others that were ridden to run
away at the imminent risk of the lives of the persons
in the carriages and on horseback that the police at-
tempted to clear the road to allow the public to exercise
that right of enjoyment in the park which they all were
entitled to. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member had asked
him it it was his intention to order the liberation of
those persons who had been taken into custody in con-
sequence of what occurred yesterday. In the first place
of the 104 persons said to have been taken into custody,
74 only were reperted as having been apprehended for
assaults on the police, or riotous or disorderly conduct—
(hear)—the remainder being composed of pick-pockets,
a class of persons who generally frequent such places.
Surely the latter was not a class to whom the hon.
member would wish to have the prerogative of the
Crown extended, and with regard to the former the
offenders were undergoing an examination before the
magistrates, and he did not consider himself ju,tified in
interfering to prevent the ends of justice being carried
out. (Hear.)

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE did not object to the with-
drawal of the bill, a course which be recommended when
the second reading was moved, when he and his col-
league the member for Lambeth protested against it ;
and they were the only two metropolitan members who
opposed the measure in its early stages. (Hear.) He
was glad, although perhaps rather late, the bill having
been withdrawn, to see hon. gentlemen coming to their
rescue ; and, seeing the Home Secretary in his
place, he wished to present a petition to the house,
and ask him a question upon it. The petition
was from Mr. Edward Medley, a constituent of his, who
states he saw many women and children struck down
the previous day in Hyde-park by the bludgeons of the
police, they being quietly and peaceably conductieg them-
selvee there, whilst other persons were taken into cus-
tody and shamefully treated by the police without any
cause, and the petitioner asked that an inquiry be made
into the conduct of the police on that occasion. (Hear,
hear.) The question he wished to put was whether
the Secretary of State for the Home Department
had received any report from the police magistrates with
regard to these disturbances, and if so, whether he had
any objection to lay it on the table. He (Mr. Duncombe)
was creditably informed by persons who were in the park
yesterday, that the police, instead of behaving in that
tetnrierate and forbearing manner they usually did, had
behaved most shamefully, by maltreating innocent wo-
men and children in a shameful manner. (Hear.) He
also understood that in consequence of several soldiers
witnessing the conduct of the police on the occasion to
which he alluded, that a collision took place between
them and the police, the result of which was that
they were taken into custody, and had that day been
broughtup before the police magistrate. He wished to put
a question to the Home Secretary to that effect, because
he thought it only showed the danger of legislating on
subjects of this kind. When the noble lord introduced
this measure, he warned him it would have the effect of
producing collisions between the people and the police,
because the people would not bear coercion on this sub-
ject. (Hear, hear.) Supposing there was that extent
of trading in the different districts the noble
lord bad visited—(perhaps these were the persons who
returned his visit last Sunday in Hyde-park)—(laughter)
—were they to increase the police force merely for the
purpose of gratifying the bigotry and prejudices of the
Sabbatarians, and to support the police have the mili-
tary under arms, as was the case yesterday. (Hear.)
It was a disgraceful state of things for the Government
and that house to entertain such legislation and bring
about such consequences as those of yesterday. (Hear.)
He should at all times oppose such measures as this, al-
though he bad been told by some of his constituents who
dissented from him that, if they had the opportunity, he
would be ducked for his opposition (not like the noble
lord, in the Serpentine), but the reverse of water, which
be would not name, and probably by some of the noble
lord's friends. (Laue.hter.)
Mr. WILKINSON expressed his dissent at bills of
this kind being brought forward by private members of
the house, instead of by the Government—(hear)—and
his disapprobation at the conduct of the police yesterday.
Mr. W. J.'FOX was of opinion some inquiry should
be made into the conduct of the police yesterday in
Hyde Park. From all he could learn the conduct
of the police appeared to have been atrociously
brutal ; and had it not been for their inter-
position no violence need have occur] ed. The people
assembled to protest against what they considered an
outrage on their rights and liberties, and he thought
they had a perfect right to do so in an orderly and
peaceable manner. He thought a very rigid in-
quiry should be instituted into the conduct of the
police yesterday. (Hear, hear.) The string had been
pulled too tight, and the people would not beer any
restriction on their freedom of action, as this bill
contemplated. The people were quite right in remon-
strating against the encroachment of their liberties, and
which they intended to do only in a legal, peaceable, and
orderly manner. In that manner their resistance would
have been expressed yesterday, had it not been for the
manifold provocation given by the police. (Hear.)
After some further discussion the matter was dropped,
but a severe stricture was passed upon the police for the
course they had adopted.
THE DEATH OF LORD RAGLAN.

Lord PALMERSTON presented an address from her
Majesty, calling upon the Commons to provide for the
widow of Lord Raglan, and stating that her Majesty taking
into consideration the great services performed by the late
Lord Raglan in the Crimea, was anxious in consequence
of his merit to confer some mark of her favour upon
Lady Raglan and her son, and she trusted her faithful
Commons would adopt some course to produce so
de ir-
able a result.

On the motion of Lord PALMERSTON, her Ma-
jesty's message was ordered to be taken into cousidexa-
tion.

DESPATCHES FROM THE CRIMEA.
Mr. DEEDES wished to a-k the noble lord at the
head of the Government whether any despatches had
been received at the War-office from the late Cominau-
der-in-Cidef of our army in the East relative to the actions
of the 18th June ; and, if so, why they had not been
made public ? He had been induced to ask the question
because private letters up to the 10th inst. had been re-
ceived in London.
Lord PALMERSTON replied that despatches of the
nature referred to had been received at the War-office
this afternoon, and they would be duly published in the
Gazette.
EDUCATION SCOTLAND (.BIL.
The house then went into committeeNO on )this bill, and
resumed its consideration at clause 14.
Mr. HADFIELD, at some length, complained that
the bill as altered was not calculatedgenetroalryr,ornb;tteont toe
education of the people of Scotland
of a section of the community. It was exciusively a
Presbyterian measure, and its title was eonsequeot y a
delusion and a snare. The test clause had completely
changed its operation ; and had that clause
exited in the first instance, the house would
never have sanctioned the introduction of the bill.
It was on that account, therefore, that at this stage of
the bill, when there was so much business of an import-
ant character to be transacted, when there were so many
influential petitions against it from both sides of the
house, and when, moreover, even some of the best
in, that
friends of education were opposed to it, he saw no rea-
scn
if it were lost thhsears.)s.
why it should
ibe perseveredesionit
would except be lost
Under such circumstances
for ever.
he felt bound
Janohter.) that the chairman now report
to move
progress without asking ,
(Hear, hear,
leave to sit again. (Hear and
1‘
could not nut that question.
n moved instead that the
,ir. FITZROY (the Chairman of the Committee) said
he r
r.
HADFIELD therbeuipro
to ask the noble lord at the
WILLIAMS "I he intended to dispose of
Mr.
Government how
f the Govern
education in Engl end and Wales.
bead 0 an nosv leave th.eshceda
voted for
the 331,000/. vo
Chairman
this
According to a colon a.
the cost of carrying on
member for Berwiukshire,
which would therefore only
hill would be 200,0001., .
England and Wales.
I anon which had been made by the
leave 181000/. for education i
Lord PAL
formerly been under
this year `could be a plied as it had .
il. With re-
the direetions
Committee of Council. of the Commi
he should suggest I
butg tra at Whether
esrhs
re-
gar to the measure before the house,
conten:l
that the hones MERSTON said that that the amount voted
its time in I
should not waste die cussed
I
the bill ought to be ,c .
or not
proceed to the Prae tical question, a,,,i mild at once p
p inciple it involved,
for surely there weree()all''iedn'T the
" r li on the paper
to occupy much valual---Eilents enoug
. After some furtherd' ti
was
iseussion the amendment
withdrawn.
On clause 14,
I . Mr. BAIRD moved to ins • I
a line C the foliowin4
words :-._."rA ert lmeeting of the 111111 L • .
aters and heritors shall

I have been called for the purpose of examining and elect-
; ing a parochial schoolmaster, notice of such meeting
shall be given 14 days previously to the inspector of the
district, 'who shall attend and take part in the examina-
tion ; and if the inspector be satisfie.i with the zeneral
qualifications of the rr,on chosen by the said meeting to
bo the schoolmaster in the vacant parish, the induction
may then take place ; but if the inspector should not be
satisfied with the qualifications of the person chosen, he
shall report the examination and his objections to the
board, who may, after hearing the minister and heri.
tors, dispose of the case as they think fit."
The LORD-ADVOCATE objected to the insertion of
the words.
The amendment wasthen negatived without a division.
Mr. E. LOCKHART moved in line 8 after the word
"Appoint," to insert, "in such manner or ()Rauch branches
of literature as, with a due regard to the circumstances
of the parish, may be prescribed." The object of the
amendment was, he said, to maintain the superintend-
ance of the Church in regard to religion alone, and he was
determined to take the sense of the committee upon it.
The LORD ADVOCATE opposed the amendment.
Mr. SCOTT supported it, and
The committee divided—
Fur the insertion of the words
Against it 94
Majority against the Government —4
The announcement of the division was received with
loud cheers by the Opposition.
Mr. E. LOCKHART then moved the insertion in
line 16, after the word " minutes," of the following
words, "in regard to his sufficiency for the office in re-
spect of literature."
The LORD ADVOCATE said he should divide the
committee on their introduction.
The committee divided—
For the amendment..
Against it

97
97

_
Loud laughter followed this announcement.
The CHAIRMAN (Mr. Fitzroy) then said—ln ac-
cordance with the usual practice, I shall vote with the
ayes, in order that the house may have the opportunity
of discussing the amendment on a future day. (Cheers.)
The amendment was then carried.
Clause 14, as amended, was agreed to.
On clause 15.
The LORD-ADVOCATE moved the following pro-
viso :—" Provided always that every such schoolmaster
shall, prior to his election, produce to the electors a
certificate signed by a minister of the religious denomi-
nation to which he belongs attesting his religious and
moral character." Agreed to.
Mr. C. BRUCE tnen moved the omission of the
clause.

Mr. MIALL said that the clause was a mere snare,
without any sincerity about it.
After a few words from Lord DALICEITEI and Mr. H.
BAILLIE,
The LORD-ADVOCATE said it was a mistake to
imagine that the clause proposed any test, but this clause
had been introduced to protect the religious feeling of the
people of Scotland from outrage. The schoolmaster was
not bound by any test to teach any dogmatic religion,
but at the same time he would be prohibited from teach-
ing anything which was at variance with the religious
feelings of the parents or of the people of Scotland in
general.
After a brief conversation, in which Sir A. Campbell,
Mr. C. Bruce, and Mr. Hadfield took part, the committee
divided, when there appeared—
For the clause lO9
Against it
Majority
—23
The clause as amended was accordingly ordered to
stand part of the bill.
Clauses 16 and 17, with some verbal amendments,
were agreed to.
Clause 18 was agreed to.
On clause 19 being proposed, which provides that
ratepayers and parishes shall consider proposals to found
public schools,
Mr. STIRLING moved as an amendment the intro-
duction of the words "and other," whereby the survey
would be extended to other schools.
The LORD ADVOCATE objected to the amend-
ment on the ground that by its adoption the whole prin-
ciple of the bill would be upset.
After some discussion,
The committee divided—
For the amendment 4O
Against it 73
Majority against —33
The clause as amended was then ordered to stand part
of the bill.
Clauses 20, 21, and 22 were agreed to with amend-
ments.
On clause 23,
Mr. PELLATT moved to add the following proviso:
—" That where the board shall require schoolrooms from
the Free Church or otherwise, any grants which shall
have been made by the Privy Council for the partial
erection of schools or purchase of sites shall be deducted
front the price given."
The LORD ADVOCATE could not agree to adopt
the proviso in this shape, but would accede to the follow-
ing modification :—" That in the event of the acquisition
by purchase of any building, school, or ground hereto-
fore used for educational purposes, the whole of the sums
expended upon such building or ground from Privy
Council grants shall be deducted from the price paid."
The proviso was accordingly added in this form, and
the clause as amended was agreed to.
Clause 24 was agreed to.
On clause 25, fixing the amount of the salaries of the
schoolmasters at not less than 501.,
Mr. VANSITTART moved to insert the words "not
less than 351." ,
Mr. "WILLIAMS supported the amendment.
After some discussion the committee divided, when
there were—

For the amendment 36
Against it
aj vrity —6o
The amendment was therefore lost, and the clause,
with some slight alterations, was agreed to.
Ciause 26 was agreed to.
On clause 27, providing that religious instruction
should be give*in the parochial and public schools,
Mr. SMOLLETT moved the insertion of the following
words The religious instruction to be given in all
parochial and public schools under this act shall be in
accordance with that heretofore in use in the parochial
schools of Scotland."
The LORD ADVOCATE said that at present there
was in every school in Scotland, with few exceptions, an
hour set apart for religious instructlon, during which
children belonging to other denominations were not
bound to attend. He thought it desirable to put that in
the bill, to show that the old practice in Scotland was to
be continued. At the same time he did not like to legis-
late more than was necessary on religious subjects, and
thought the proposed words unnecessary, their substance
being set forth in the preamble of the bill,
The committee divided, when there voted,
For the amendment ........................ 38
Against it
93
Majority
55
The amendment was accordingly rejected.
Mr. P. URQUHART proposed that the hour set
apart for religious instruction should be " either at the
opening or the closing of the school."

The LORD ADVOCATE said it would be better to
leave that point in the hands of the school committee.
The amendment c‘as negatived without a division.
On the motion that the clause stand part of the bill,
Mr. A. HASTIE moved that the clause be omitted
altogz,ther.

Ylr. HADFIELD supported the motion for the
omision of the clause.

The committee divided, when the numbers were—
For the clause
Against it 79
Majority ---3
The clause wai accordingly retained.
The motion was negatived without a division.
Clause 23 was agreed to.
Clause 31 was agreed to, with the addition of some
words which would include parochial as well as public
schoolmasters.

Clauses 32 to 36 were agreed to, with some verbal
amendments.

Clause 37 was agreed to, with the addition of some
words introduced by the LORD ADVOCATE with re-
ference to rating, and which had become necessary in
consequence of the recent valuation made in Scotland.
On the motion of Mr. LOCKHART, the following
proviso was added to the clause :—" Provided always,
that any heritor qualified in terms of the said recited act
of the 43d year of King George the Third, and entitled
to be present and vote at any meeting held under autho-
rity of this act, may attend and vote, either personally
or by a representative authorised by a letter or writing
under his hand, and when so represented he shall be held
to be a member present in the sense of this act."
Clause 38 having been agreed to,
The LORD-ADVOCATE proposed the addition of the
following proviso :—" Provided always, that it shall not!
he necessary for any industrial or reformatory school in
Scotland, in order to obtain the sanction of the Secre-
tary of State, under an act passed in the seventeenth
and eighteenth year of the reign of her present Majesty,
intituled ' An act to render reformatory and industrial
schools in Scotland more available for the benefit of
vagrant children,' to provide accommodation within the
premises of such school for the lodging and residence of
1.11-1003,171 s
isupyharcoei.
contemplated
riietc:et:omico
committee
thel no and
r schools
sheriffo ion us
such vagrant children. Provided always, that the rules
of such school are otherwise satisfactory as provided by
cht
withino f
transmitthishe jurisdiction said
vagrant c
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tael3teetYddßibvyNidtehodie:j
repealed.as
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hielerbeyn
when
objected
bill—namely,
aohruetrheeleyp,
appeared, rtohpe orseeifdma
tamend-
ment,ioa on the ground of its introdncieg matter not orie.i-
of criminal offenders.
- For the amended clause .......
Against it . ..............................
Majority for the amended clause... —74
Clauses try to 44 were agreed to.
Clause 45 was agreed to.
On the last clause,
Mr. DUNLOP moved the insertion of the words, "in
so far as respects any power thereby conferred on the
presbyteries of the Church of Scotland," his object being
to reverse the decision which had been come to that
evening, and which had overturned the former decisions
of the house.

Mr. SCOTT objected to any amendment which went
to reverse a decision of the committee brought on during
the snipe evening, and without notice.

The LORD ADVOCATE thought it but fair to give
notice of the amendment, and recommended the hon.
member to propose It oil bringing up the report.
The clause was ordered to stand part of the bill, and
the bill was ordered to be reported with amendments to
the house.
On the SPEAKER resuming the chair,
Lord B. CECIL complained that the chairman o

committees had left the chair without giving an oppor-
tunity to those who had amendments to propose.
On the motion that the report be brought up on
Thur44;ty,
ST A. CAM PDELL mr)•.•,:d
im the ground that thei'e was Money c:allM! ilt it.
After a conversation, the amendment was wididrawn,
and the bill was ordered to be printed with amendments.
EDUCATION (No. 2) BILL.

On the order of the day being read for resuming the
adjourned debate on the second reading of this bill,
Sir J. PAKINGTON moved that the order of the
day for the second reading be discharged. He could
not abandon the further proceeding on this bill with-
out expressing his earnest hope that the house would not
allow this most important subject to end where it now
was, but that in an early session—he hoped in the next
session—it would be brought to a settlement on these
principles—first, that there should be no unnecessary in-
terference with the existing agencies, which have done
much good, and are effecting much good at this moment ;
secondly, that the deficiencies of the existing agencies
should be supplied by means of a public fund to tie ad-
ministered by local authority ; thirdly, that the religious
element should be retained in our religious system of
education, but that the religious teaching should be com-
bined with the most perfect respect and toleration for
the reliious opinions of those denominations of Chris-
tians who dissent from the Established Church. These
he believed were the great principles on which only this
great question could be settled. He had been charged
with exaggeration, but he wished to be allowed to re-
mark that every statement which he had made was
founded on official information, and was perfectly correct.
Mr. HADFIELD said that whenever the measure was
brought forward again, he should feel it his duty to give
it his strenuous opposition.

Lord J. RUSSELL agreed with the right bon. gen-
tleman in the three principles which he had laid down.
With regard to future legislation upon this important
subject, he thought they ought not to be strictly guided
by the experience either of the despotic states of the
Continent or the republican states of America, both of
which were inapplicable, but they should seek rather to
adopt a system of education which was the best adapted
to the genius and wishes of the English people. It would
be much better to improve the present state of things
than to introduce any thoroughly new system based
upon the experience of other, and of course differently
situated, states. All things considered, he did not
think the Government could have acted wiser originally
than to establish the Committee of Council for Educa-
tion, upon which the several Ministers of the Crown
sat from time to time to consider the best means
of advancing education and encouraging the formation
of schools in thickly-populated districts ; but circum-
stances had changed since that committee was first
created, and now it was incumbent that the President of
the Council should be acknowledged as the minister of
education, while the department over which that func-
tionary presided should be represented in the House of
Commons by some official person holding the rank of a
Privy Councillor, who should be prepared to defend any
measures that the general committee might propose, and
from time to time be ready to explain the views of the
Executive Government on the subject of education. In
the meanwhile, the efforts of the Committee of the Privy
Council for Education would be directed towards devii,-
ing the best means for meeting the wants of large and
populous towns; but at some future period the Govern-
ment would be prepared to introduce some general mea-
sure based upon the rating principle involved in the bill,
which he must now ask leave to withdraw.

Mr. M, GIBSON observed that the proposition con-
tained in his bill for giving moral and secular instruc-
tion to the people at the expense of local ratepayers,
leaving religious instruction to be provided by voluntary
means, had been suppr rted by 170 public meetings in
the country, held in 28 different counties, and he was
convinced that no other plan w, uld satisfy the !polarity
of the people. They must either teach one religion in
this country or none at all, and since there was no one
general system which the people would tolerate, he con-
tended that the only alternative was to adopt his plan
of providing secular education at the expense of the
State, through the medium of local rates, and leave the
religious element to be supplied by voluntary efforts.
After a few words from Mr. WIURAM,
Mr. G. VERNON asked if the Government intended
to introduce this session any measure for the appoint.
ment of a Minister of Instruction ?

Lord J. RUSSELL replied in the negative, as the
Government wished to take time to consider the whole
subject—(hear)—though at the same time he should state
that they fully contenp;ated renewing a measure next
session based upon the rating principle. (Hear.)
Lord .7. MANNERS gave notice that whenever such
a measure was brought forward be should be prepared
to meet b with a direct negative. (Hear, hear.)
The orler of the day for the second reading of the
Educatioi (No. 2) Bill was then read and dischnrged,
as was aho the order of the day for the second reading
of the Education (Lord John Russell's) Bill, and the
Free Schols(Mr. M. Gibson's) Bill.

The West Indies Relief Loans Arrangement Bill was
read a second time, and ordered to be committed.
STOCK-IN-TRADE BILL.
This bin was passed through committee.
CAL MINES INSPECTION BILL.

The home then went into committee on this bill, when
the first Wee clauses were agreed to.
In answer to Lord LOVAINE,
Sir G. GREY said it had been arranged that before a
new inspec;or was appointed, he should be subjected to
a full examination by persons competent to test his fit-
ness for the office to which he asphed.
The house then resumed.

GOLD AND SILVER WARES (No. 2) BILL.
The report on this bill was brought up ar d agreed to.
DUBUNCARRLA.GE ACTS AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
ENDOWED SCHOOLS (IRELAND) BILL.
The louse went into committee on this bill, when the
first two clauses were agreed to. Some discussion hav-
ing grim on the third clause, the house resumed in con-
sequence of a threat by Mr. Brotherton to move the ad-
journment of the house on account of the lateness of the
hour. I; was then past one o'clock.
Mr. BROTHERTON moved the adjourment of the
house. _

Viscount PALMERSTON said that if the motion
were agreed to they would lose a day.
The motion was withdrawn.
The CopYhold, &c., Commissioners Continuance Bill
passed thrJugh committee.
The County Palatine of Lancaster Trials Bill was read
a third time and passed.

. -
The Piers and Harbours (Scotland) Bill was read a
third time and passed.

. _
The Partnership Amendment Bill was committed pro
forma, for the purpose of inserting amendments.
The Limited Liability Bill was also committed pro
forma, for a like purpose.
It was also arranged that the bills should be re-printed.
Mr. COLVILLE moved the third reading of the Jus-
tices of the Peace Qualification Bill.
Colonel DUNNE objected to the application of this
bill to Ireland.

Mr. BROTHERTON moved, as an amendment, that
the house do now adjourn.
The house divided. The numbers were—

For the amendment
Against it
nijority _
The house accordingly adjourned at a quarter before
two o'clock.

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