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London, England, 1818-05-28 00:00:00

EDUCATION OF THE POOR.

The Earl of hosse.irra moved the peciend reading
of the Bell for the Education of the Poor. The
Noble Earl prefaced his motion with ei review of the
moral mod political advantages that must re.ult to
sionety fruw diffusing education swung the lower
clusves.

Tire LORD CHANCELLOR was willing to admit
that wavy abuses esi-tell in some charitable insti-
tutions, yet he was also fully satisfied that this Bill,
if carried into a law, would do more harm thirst
good to the operation of the charitable foundations
of the country. If individual Matancrs of abuse
were pointed out, they ought to he made the sub-
ject of particular inquiry by the King's Attotory-
General, in the mintier pointed out by lair. The
obvious effect of this Ball would be to drive from
their trusts, some of the most honourable trustees in
the kingdom ; and, secondly, it would consign to
individuals the power of deciding on who were visi-
tors and who were governors under particular be.
quests--a power that the law ought not to rblegate
iu this general mustier. It would, iii fact, be ins-
thing less than the appoitittnetit of Co 1111 l iissimiera
to ascertain the fountain head of all the sprnrgs
private bounty, and where, in the lapse of time, a
depart f tire ow matter how intended)
had taken place front the inteutioa ;
then to avers tails, if possible, the surviving heirs
(if im)), for the purpose of replacing iu their Lauds
the residue of the foods so fallen into disuse or isps-
application. Ile begged to be understood as heing
by oo means hostile to the object of this Bill—Le
was only averse to theltAlli by which it was sought
to attain that object. Much had been said of the mar
mausgement arid abuses a hicli weir said to charac-
terise sonic of the charitable foundations for educa-
tion throughout the suutitr) ; but it and out follow
that if the scholars were few, the trustee. were blame-
able. It was not because the grammar schuola were
deserted, the toasters should be blamed ; but the
practice wasriverlookeil, which induced so mousy per-
sous to send their children ill sixes and bielftll• to pub-
lic seminaries. The queation then was, what their
Lordships were to do with the Ball It had,
ur-
deed, been disposed of elsewhere with little debate;
it did not, however, follow, that the silence of some
should be received as ass wiqualitied alipmbrition of
the measure. The Bill did out say our word of
what was ultimately to be dune after the Report of
the Commissioners shall be rectived. Before be

commented to the Bill, he insist be told the eventual
inientities—lwfure one obeli was takcii. he 1111" St be
apprised d the second intended-1.61a was rctn.uy
necessary. As to the pecuniary machioery of the
Bill, it was etrangely iirodequate to the object.
Four thourand pounds war, noires!, sat
floe eltpr list. of the C
not pay 1-4011) part of the,
general charge of their
herculean task. The noisome. were also to hr
made in ass objectionable moonier. Iles filial
objection was, that tl gh stone glievalicto may
he remedied, yet its rientual operionini outs'd be
to banish fruits their trust% sonic of the most hu-
nouiable trusters in the kingdom. Their Lord-
ships knew that in the Corporation of the City of
Lumbrii, there were many coos punnet alio managed
charitable trusts, and to a considerable amount; some
of these they were bound to attend to, °Owls were
voluntarily ominaged. Take care then how, by in-
terfereocr, these people were shaken from their
volutotory stisioagement, stud cninprlled 10 411-1/%lt
Irum at to avoid the trouble and expense of there
inquiries.. Ile would goo into the Custritsittte, but
ctrtaii:ly 441:huut any .„tei:ti‘ti of surporti •g the

third leading of the Bid, unless great end material
alterations were wade iu It during its inugiesse.—
(Bear.) .
Lind Hou.stsp hrietly stated the 'Amiens whicit
induced him to support the Bid, whe..lt was mot.
he said, the measure it had beets just tepreseuted.
It was merely a Bill fur inquiry. and nut to corL.
met abuses—that must be done by to ultimate
tueasure. The poWers of inquiry here were similar
to those given on the Naval linjuirt, winch was
supported by the Nulde cud Learned beid on the
Woolsack. He admits that abuses du exist ; but he
forgets Bust Pashoment was therefore called upon,
first, to know what ea* the state of educatiou iu
the canary, uusi the funds spillieuhre tt; its diffu-
sion. It was wrong to argue this es an inquiry
against the trustees—it wise iso such dung. it was
uti inquiry into a fact. 'I he constitution of Par•
liatheiii authorised inquiry into fsublt. mists, with
a vie* of ascertaining whether the condttiotis out
winch they were held were complied with by the
putties exercising tutu ~if the result of the itirs
quirt' should be, that no abuses reett, then there
would be no itecessity fur any illicit& proceeding.
If oily good trusts have fulleit into disuse, t lieu Par.
liaitiesit may consider of their rtvs.wu. 11 the ge-
neral education of the pour be a (*eatable object,
then it was most important, first, to know the pre.
scot state of it, cud secondly, whether existing Guide
were adequate to the ultimate object. The Noble
and Learised Lord found fault with the Bill with-
nut stating one word as to the mode of remedying
admitted abuser. The Noble and Learued Lord
on the Woolsack was remarkable fur the acuuteit of
his understanding and the enlarged powers of his
mind ; but yet lie (Lott' H.) must treys that he wan
more fund of picking holes Hi the Bills of others.
thou its introducing tennis kably correct ones hius=
self.—(A langh.)—The practice of the Noble Lord
its this respect re:misdeal him of whit wee said by
Mr. Suaine Jenyns, its the AtneriCan war, when d
Gent:email expressed to him his disappointment at
a speech made in the House of Commons. by a
Member who was a very distinguished speaker while
in opposition, but who made a very had our when
he become a supporter of Adinio.stration—"
said Mr. Jenyiis, U ore ou surprised sit 'hat ?—here
is a man who has hero twelve or fourteen y eine
breakilig windows, and earn you all lit Dove expect
him to become u good glazier ?"—(1-unglrier.f
The Noble Lord concluded by rXpirmoii,4 h.. wssrsu
approbation of the Bill, mud his anxiety that it
should now be committed.
Lord IIEDEIDA LE %aid the Bill would reform old
abuse, nor would Parlianitut take to itself the
power of settling individual claims kithout a irrirt.•
time to the judicature which at present eXiard, if
cares of compleint arose. The whole niathitikry of
the Bill was therefore useless, except to itttpdai,
upon the trustees of 11,000 parodies au expense 4.1
between three and 300,0001. for drawing up the i,t.
cessary returns. Oil Wit such return 100,0001, had
been elreadv expended, and oil measure whatever
was hike.' upon it. The Bill would entail that min
of dab:telly upon trustees that fee would be lu.l,id
iueliued to.contiime their duties wide r such circuits-
stutters. The effect of it would bet to resider it im-
perative oil the Costithissioners to iinpsire tutu each
particular charity, and such a Wily as 3lre. Fry
would be called oil to account for a trust which she
so admirably iliallagen out her own system. For all
these reasons he would gist his liegative agailist
going into the Committer.—(Hear./
Lord HOLLAND sod Lord HEDEIDA LE mutually
explained,
The Earl of CARNARVON gave his decided opi.
.'ion in favour of the Bill, I tiu•teil the House
would, by going into the Commutes., prime that
sort of measure winch Ilse waists of the couistly re-
quired. There really was no other way but that
proposed by the Bill, for obtaiiiing the prell iiiiii sty
information which must precoie a g. sirial legisla-
tive enactment ou the subject.
The House then divided, when the Dumbers were,
for going into the Committee—
Coutents 4: 10
Nuu-Cutart.ts

11Nut-4

Oil our re-admission, we f I tlwir Lordships
in the Committee, and the Carl of LlVLltroui,
propo►ing a clause to restrict the inquiry of the
Commissioners to charities fur the i/Urllllstli of edit-
esti (((( , and not to charities generally. Tilts clause,
and some Terigl amendments, were agresd to, and
the Report ordered to be received to-morrow.

Several Bill• on the trble were forwaithA in their
respective stages, and the Muse adjourned at Il•If•
past Eleven o'Cluck.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, WEDIIHUAr, M4' 0.

INDIA HOUSE.

Mr. Maitland, (rum .ho balsa Humor, presented a noisy of
the Regulations uf the COIBII of Dirtetora. enticrtaing I.
warraata for payment of pensions and statutes giauted by
the Cuaapany.--Ordered In he us the table.
COUN EY TREASURER—(IRELAND.)
Mr. Vi .v FIT7.OERALD said, that be wuultt. nut, at thid
late pet ii.tl ut the &Braun, press through the House lb* Bill
fur n gul &tin g the office of Otiosity Treasurer its Ir.. 'laud.