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London, England, 1855-02-20 00:00:00

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' UIAL p:Rw" IA 'VIE NT removal of the eonvaleecente, or the patients co.peble
t 1 of removal, in the hospitals at Scutari or in the Crimea,
80115.... -______,,,,,______ ito England or to some of our Mediterranean colonies,
-4 OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) I for the perfect restoration of their health ?
111 e so ROYAL COMMISSION. Lord PALMERSTON said a commission was sent
s„, !
iiii.assent was given to the Fisheries (North ;
out by the Duke of Newcastle to inquire into the condi-
Zeea) t 4 tion of the hospitals, and to recommend such changes as
kit elskrei • I they might think right and proper, arid to report them
hof r,._;:loners were the Lord Chancellor, the not merely to the Government at home, but to Lord
,41,1,140,,F,_', and. the Earl of Hardwicke. 1 Raglan. Lord Raglan was requested to apt upon those
1111 L 04137,14 reljourned during pleasure. recommendations without delay. It was the iriten-
itskol`ci4 NCHLLOR took his seat on the woolsack tion of his noble friend at the head of the War
fobLil%treluiylB°!.-_,STRA-DBROKE presented a petition ; Department to make arrangements for a periodical Ser-
ij vice between Constantinople and the Crimea en the one
4174 id
session
praying for the repeal of the act .
Ca 44.1 r elision respecting the sale of beer. The • hand and Eng and on the other. On the arrival home
qyetof • egretted that 1.1 of such invalids, as might be in a condition to be trans-
(('
the'Petitio he csues not support the ported by sea, ar'immsen-iente would be male for their re-
Letllt, n• ception in proper arid suitable hospitals.
TRANSPORTS—TREATY WITH BONDS ON BRITISH TRADE IN CHINA.
Ifti Pert of TURKEY. In answer to a question from Mr. HORSF.ALL,
41(let,patch-reLLENBOROUGH moved for a copy Lord PALMERSTON said th it with regard to the
kle ' dated j from the War Department to Lord ! question whether instructions had beers sent out to het
liti,t4t. Th_ao• 20, relative to the formation of land Majesty's Superintendent of Trade in China to cancel witii of the 4' noble earl also inquired when the ratifi- the bonds taken on British trade at Shanghai between
1011,4 treaty that had lately been entered into , the 9th February arid 12th July, 1854, Sir John Bow-
-111 6e lake f°,' the formation of a foreien legion 1 ring had teen instructed to inquire into the circuiristai,ces
,Ijoroise,„,;
94 On the table ? He was desirous (7f making under which those bonds were given, and to make a full
~itivil_stfpot:eends On the treaty, but be thought he had report upon the matter, and alsoi other ntatti!rs
g so until to-morrow, when lie ;in suspense, to her Majesty's Government for it-,
cstl:oo74l,llhe second reading of the New Enlistment : consideration. Relative to the second point, as to whe-
-144 !proceeded with. 1 ther instructions had been given, or were intended to be
4litlikstble earl CLARENDON said he could not inform 1 given, to her Majesty's Superintendent of Trade in
,4 ttle,
awh, eh the treaty alluded to would be laid China to interdict the interference of the Consular Courts
hili•l No: It was not expected it would be ratified ' in China in reference toall the bonds and securities taken
keyN f 1; on Brish trade since the expulsion of the Imperial Cas-
Niet -.lea:- edLLENBOROUGH—I am extremely ' tome authorities from Shanghai by the insurgents in 1853,
sekt that six weeks are likely to elapse before the Sir John Bo wring had been informed that no proceed-
ii,! L.atiffed. Why, my lords, six weeks is a 1 ings could be taken in the common law courts with re-
/44:1,11(4"Pu do not raise the men before that 1 gard to these bonds ; but he had been instructed to
Lll4l 'll4e that they would not be able to take ' cancel them and return them to the parties by
hoiNtar.
whom they were given. With regard to
IlitAilt, to 4s.I:IRE was understood to say that there bonds subsequently given, the decision upon them
NVlkr:),'Slection to the production of the despatch must be suspended until the report he had men-
ei IN " noble earl. • Coned should be received on the matter generally.
„isio_isirltilf.i.XLLENßOßOUGH—There are two As to the third point in the question, it must depend on
•ll lee 4 wish to direct the noble !ord's attention, 1 the circumstances of the case, whether decision was
ttlit l'ets- teethe formation of the land transport. given on the spot, or whether reference must be made
041 ko points are points which ap- to Government at home ; but in any question at issue
Nslrestos es being most essential--first, involving interpretation of treaties reference ought to
‘kii004,44,1-leneral of the land transport shall be be made to the Government at home. With reference
k Oho 41.1 e for the finding of the necessary prowl- to the last point raised, instructions had been forwarded
:14,,1'et, %port of the animals to be employed in to Sir John Bowring, to urge on the Chinese Govern-
4h,‘ 414,04145 t they should not be at all dependent merit the propriety of levying duties with perfect inspar-
411ered ~ uPon the Commissariat. The other is, tiality between nation and nation.
w.thieciav at his entire disposal the sea trans- SUPPLY OF CLOTHING TO THE ARMY.
•yhett; theese animals ere to be conveyed. In reply to Mr. Newpsoktst, _ . ,itt, HERS PROTECTION AGAINST Mr. F. PEEL stated that the War Department was
(1144.::,_5h. u uDGJMENTS BILL. - in communication with the Horse Guards as to the best
•OfttilPe then went into committee on this bill, description of summer clothing to be sent out to the
N to CRANCELLOR said. he had a few troops in the East. The 'War Department had given
IT It'ake to some of the clauses,
It ' LEoorders to supply 3,000 tents, which were nearly ready.
svtti.ii, N.-ARDS having explained some of
4 e„;.. RECALL OF LORD LUCAN.
ot, `-44ed t In reply to Mr. C. BERKLEY,
through committee, and having been Lord PALMERSTON said it was true that Lord
Itse.„,
Luca) had been recalled some time ago, in consequence
-u'l'lPl adjourned. .
of differences which hal arisen between him and the
14 --------------- Commander-in-chief.
ka °z' com.
kutt 1-...... ONS—YESTERDAY. THE VIENNA COMMISSIONER.
•• k It took the chair shortly before four Col. SIBTHORP inquired what pay Lord J. Russell
was to receive for going to Vienna? (Laughter.)
t...'C' iste I%TEVtr MEMBER. Lord PALMERSTON said his noble friend would
k, se las.,,,unr:r.,tionok the oaths and his seat on his receive no salary whatever, but, as was usual on such
missions, his clear expenses would be paid and no more,
L Iroli 110,17. the room of his deceased father.
Colonel SIBTHORP—I suppose they won't be small.
4 tinko, t A, COMMISSION.
(A. laugh.)
Ifolsd44h.he Yeoman (Taper of the Black Rod,
NEWSPAPER STAMPS.
' '-'4O of i'tecloed the house to attend at the bar
1-iordg In reply to Mr. GIBSON,
til 4to the -,-,. to
.hear the royal assent given by
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
-tisheries Bill.
itilo • phi
east afraid he should not be able to bring on his news-
•yitotoel,t b,, A.TE BUSINESS. paper stamp measure for discussion to-night, but it would
t,,' soelkiltitla were read a second time and or- be advantageous if he were allowed to take the pre-
' 111.Z4) tiskel:----Bangor Markets and Public linainary resolution to-night with the view of fcunding,the
\II ttelestsre tith!ad, Lancashire, and Cheshire bill upon which the discussion would properly take place.
N:4h treetel::Ways ; Bridport Railway ; Great In reply to another question,
;1,, r'-' Railway ; Floarwithy Bridge The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated
oktrlt,cocaster Water and Gas; London and that the passing of the resolution would not immediately
%1141 it e,e' St- Helen's Improvement ; Sligo remove the stamp : that would have to abide the fate of
Otte ;"1,. Railway ; lormobarn and St. the bill.
p,. 4 Niftsto4.o rquay Water ; Uphill and Blea-
Oft , 4ter ; It3Per-Mare Gas ; Wolverhampton
Ltle,,,'`l Is ~„ 'lreland and Midland Railway.
14 qtletrie:ll:---1 INDIA. DOCK BILL.
lq loth as,id second reading of this bill,_
41441, Dock the object of this bill was to repeal
tlateto I's tle, fiket of 1799, and if it was carried
'
eti4l44ol:d eet of seriously taxing the public.
II i:l4 kit_Nr,ft.° be repealed made certain ex-
,a,,. Nii. ,„,, goods trans-shipped by lighter-
, cotnN l't %140 Y • succeeded in carrying this
do P4ry h titt) tr4B violation of the compact
e cit ne, 44%. qtained their original act.
thkresi era C.° ski
ey- clot ! 41,1 "antage of being wharfingers
k. 41 tiniee, oi
o to e--1 to ct of the.l use of part of the Thames,
Gitit,end tr.satige trade and port of London,
"lici,,e,Solv.'elr ill Sad with that position without
„4 t ileY (Eder 1413, PO rtePd° the bill when the docks
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t;l3:llle:ersi:ensaiisdddi dee
reineaLgl la.:timmnh their
yrfo Parliament.fcBa3us:fie 0P:a0r: I? ta10"
i t It:Ill:West a, • riland of these gentlemen now
of te of t.. it
i hi, Was then ; they wanted to
ikt Itt compa-V_Wlich enabled them to have
wulitil:out paying fotr thsem.ri.
Iklii4L vietveld
tit), the ,c bill, and sincneehaelrfifoung7it ita waoPuld
kOB4 tCade and commerce of the country,
L )4144' e second reading. It would inflict a
AtL tte,7 Upon both private wharfingers and
i '4Qek,elling the latter to have their goods
Z‘ &el' C,,, no matter whether it was for their
lit-Polo-I": 'and he hoped the house would not
kilitt,iVtli,il„"t this bill
Nt, cot 11A- if he. had to decide upon the
11li %ill% riet,slould say the Dock Company had
lice b,et elLelei.,, • }Lit, but that was not the ques-
illAtel'ort, il'uloilee,i` to decide ; they had to deter-
Vhe eoileo!lriett: 'end had been made out for
%-illikly uo!reti-Q'rcectice of referring a pri-
°retort, "„Efroun,l4o- select committee. He
' ,the hr," had been made out, and
'llse would pass the second

SUPPLY-ARMY ESTIMATES.

On the order of the day being read for the house re-
solving itself into committee of supply on the army
estimates.

Mr. LAYARD rose and said ho trusted the house would
permit him to make a few remarks on the present critical
posture of, public affairs. Under ordinary circumstances
he should not have made such an appeal, but he hoped the
house would, with its usual kindness, extend to him a little
indulgence, bearing in mind the deep interest which he
had taken in the question. (Hear, hoar.) It had been
his intention not to raise a discussion on the present occa-
sion, but on the question of the appointment of the com-
mittee of the hon. and learned member for Sheffield; as,
however, it was not improbable that some arrangement
might be made between the hon. and learned gentleman
and the Government, by which a fall discussion would be
prevented, he felt it his duty to take advantage of the
present occasion for addressing a few remarks to the house.
The country would not be satisfied if, at a moment like
this, an opportunity were not given to some hon. members
to express their opinion upon the present state of affairs ;
and he did not think a better occasion could arise than '
the present, when the house was to be called to vote a sum
of little less than 7,500,0001. for the maintenance and re-
cruiting of our army. Last year, a sum almost as great
was voted for the army—an army unequalled in discipline,
unequalled in all that was requisite to send a victorious
army into the field ; but that army had been crippled and
reduced. to little more than 12,000 men. - It was his con-
viction that this country was now standing on the briuk,
he might almost say, of ruin. Thpre were many who
considered the country almost in disgrace. There was no
way of blinding ourselves to our own real position ; and
he felt almost degraded in his own eyes, because
last year he did not speak out more -boldly ; be-
cause he was restrained from telling truths which
weighed upon his mind, but which, from various con-
siderations, he refrained from pressing upon the house.
Ho would, in the first place, make an observation or two
upon the actual condition of the Government, b? cause that
was an important elemeut in the observations which he
was about to make. A short time ago the honourable
and learned member for Sheffield proposed a motion for a
committee of inquiry into the condition of our troops, and
the conduct of those departments which had the conduct
of the war. That motion was resisted by the Government,
not so much from the fact that the motion, if carried,
would be inconvenient, but because it was a direct vote of
censure on the members of the Government. That was
the challenge thrown out and accepted. Not only was that
distinctly understood, but every member of the Govern-
ment who spoke stated that the motion, if carried, wouldbe
considered a vote of censure, not on one or two members
of the Government, but on all and every one of them.
(Hear, hear.) Now, what was the result? The motion
was carried by, perhaps, one of the largest majorities ever
obtained on a question of such magnitude—it was carried
by more than two to one.' The country felt no doubt as
to the result of that motion. Many honourahle members
who voted for the motion were personally opposed to it,
but they gave their votes on account of the feeling which
pervaded the country. The Government went out, and
for some days it was impossible to form a new Adminis-
tration. Lord Palmerston at length stated that a new
Administration had been formed. And of what did it
consist ? Why, almost the identical individuals who com-
posed the previous one. (Hear, hear.) There was only
one exception. Now, under ordinary circumstances—
under the difficulties and straits to which the country was
reduced—such an Administration might perhaps have
been accepted ; but when Parliament was called upon to
entrust' to the Government the conduct of one of the
greatest wars in which the country was over engaged—
when Parliament was called upon to vote large supplies
for the support of an army which had been reduced to a
mere fraction—when Parliament was thus asked to place
confidence in the Government—it became necessary to in-
quire what that Government had done. (Hear.) It was
said that the same men did not retain the saineplaces. That
was very true. Some changes had been made, but others
still remained in their places. Now, let the house con-
sider how far those who remained merited the confidence
of the country. The other night a rather strange challenge
was thrown out by an hon. member, who said that even
the member for Aylesbury had not dared to assail the ad-
ministration of the Admiralty; that hon. gentleman had
a somewhat short memory, and it certainly was surprising
that such a remark should have been made after what had
been said respecting the questions of blockade and the
question of the transport service. Had not the manage-
ment of the blocuade brought immense mischief on the
country, and been one of the causes of our present difficul-
ties ? Then again with regard to the transport service, had
not hon. members over and over again stated the utter con-
fusion which existed in that service, and the almost help-
less state of our transports ? How, then, could it be stated
with any degree of truth that the departinent of the right
hon. gentleman the First .Lord of the Admiralty had
escaped all blame? Then, again, with respect to our diplo-
macy. He could not forget that this war was owing to the
mismangement of our diplomacy—to those melancholy
conferences at Vienna which almost brought disgrace upon
the diplomatic body. If we had shown a bold front in our
diplomacy we should not have been in our present state.
Many of our diplomatic appointments were not worthy of
the country. He did not wish to mention names, but dur-
ing the time these transactions were going on an exchange
was made by which one noble lord, who was too-old to
serve his country as an ambassador, was sunk into a mis-
sion. He considered that to have been a gross job, and a
matter which ought not to be passed over in silence. The
people of this country wished those who had the manage-
ment of their affairs to rise in the House of Commons and-
tell the truth. They did not wish the Government to give
indiscreet answers to indiscreet questions, or to betray
the interests of the country by indiscreet disclosures, but
when an hon. member asked a question, they considered
that, he ought to receive a straightforward answer. He
had frequeutly asked whether there would be an effi-
cient blockade, and the reply was "Yes." But what
had happened? Why, mouths afterwards the Govern-
ment admitted there had been no blockade at all.
When an hon. member said we had only 12,000 effective
men in the Crimea, a right hon. gentleman said we had
30,000 ; but now 12,000 was admitted to be the right num-
ber. (No, no.) Then let the documents be produced to
show the 30,000. When it was stated that the army was
starving—that our men were eating French bread and
wearing French clothing—the reply was, that our-: rmy
was revelling in luxury and perfectly protected agaiust the
inclemency of the weather. The country was not satisfied
with such assertions. (Hear.) Such bAng the individuals
connected with the Government, he would now ask what
was their policy? Before Christmas Pailiatneut was called
together to pass the Mditia. Bill and the F,:reign
Eulist-
meet Bill. Tne ral party were canc.! upon to swa'low
all their principles, :ill the declarations which they had
made on the hustings, because it was of the utmost im-
portance to pass the bills without loss of time.- Now what
had been the result ? He believed he could state as a fact
that scarcely a single man had been engaged under that
Foreign Enlistment Bill ; and that up to this moment'
they had not made up their minds who was to carry it out.
In the meantime France had been engaging men, and Ger-
many was putting its army ou a war footing, or in a state
of preparation, so as to be ready at fourteen days' notice
to take the field. The result would be, either that we
should be unable to obtain men, or that we ahould be
obliged to take the scum of the continent. Then with re
spect to cavalry, he believed that not one step had been
taken towar4s getting a body of cavalry together, and it

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131)()W the second reading, be-
ViUlation of the compact ela-
te" and the country when the

WIZ tilted the facts of the case in
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the clocks were originally
all ere conferred upon the com-
h
LeYo wed to obtain a frontage to
were 4ll empowered to build
,48 vtherfingers ; and thirdly,
4 to charge a toll upon
4,,8"'g their waters ; but they
front levying any charg,- upon
°eke to transship goods. Now,
~14'1„ta repeal that prohibition ;
-vtlin consent to such a repeal, a
lade out in its favour. He for
44se had been made out, and he
prepared to vote against the

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