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London, England, 1823-03-02 00:00:00

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ter.)--Etery thing - belief that
Austria will confine herself to the suspension of her
diplomatic relations 'with Spain, and that her com-
mercial intercourse will not be interrupted. If Aut.
trig, at the Congress of Verona, appeared to depart'
for a moment from the desire to maintain peace, it
was because it was-urgent to divert Rutile. from an
attack on the east of .Europe, which she bly long
contemplated. In giving a kind of tacit goriest to
a war in the west, she as a consequence( 'aimed
Russia to renounce theidea of a ruptuie n4ts,.the
Porte. This pacific system explains the frequent ei
change of couriers between Vienna and London.
DEBATE ON THE BUDGET.

M. Royer-Collard' opened the debate in • long
and able speech, in which he foreiblY deprecated
war: he was followed by M. Labourdormaye, who
stuck to-his old text of abusing Ministers fur not
going to war sooner, but at thee same time supported
the muting for the subsidy: then followed M. La-
borde, who painted in striking colours the dangers
of tear, and the all but impossibility of success: next
came M. de St.. Guy?: wk/Aptial for the war, on the.
ground of supporting-The dignitrtritirroWn.' • •
Delessert then delivered a sensible speech
against war, in winch he quoted the report made to
the Senate in 1808, by the Minister of Buona-
parte, in favour of war with Spain ; and obsitrved
upon it, that the Chamber would bee how much
men in power resembled each other, as Buonaparte's
justification rested on the tame ground us that of
M. de Wide.
111. Castelhajac made a declamatory harangue in
favour of war.

General Foy, with great clopencc, lamented
that an army, which he ;is un old soldier could not
help wishing to succeed, should be employed in a
set vice in which, as an honest man, he must hope it

would tail.
The Minister• %/ flick then spoke as follows:—`

Gentlemen,—The Governin'ent will find in the
discussion the greatest justification which could be
made of the course which it has adopted respecting
the affairs of Spain. In fact, of all the speakers
who have attacked the appropriation at funds pro.
posed by' the Government, none have advanced the
objection which ought naturally to present itself to
those who oppose that appropriation; that is, to
prove to the Government that it is iu error, in re-
garding the honour and security .of the country to
be incompatible with the present state of thin,•s. I
ask every candid man whether this be not the real
question? Is it not the proof iv:,ich ought to boa
brought forward at this.tr►buue? But when, instead
of endeavouring to impress this conviction on your
minds, it is attempted to alarm you on the conse-
quences of the war, and to go into digressions on the'
opinion of this 'or that Minister, on this or that act,
foreign to a question so important, then, I say, it is
confessed that this question cannot be otherwise re-
solved than the Government itself has resolved it
of approval On the right.)
The Deputy who opened this debate, who dis-
puted the right of intervention, has taken care not
to. approach this point of the difficulty: he has
throughbut supposed the sta:C of Spain so regular,
so conformable to principles which could not be
applied except to ourbelves, dim he has exhibited it
vs she condemnation of thosa who are impressed
Kith the necessity of combating it: but he Would
certainly be bouhd, according to his own principles,
to come to very different conclusions, if he had
diskosed tooview the present state of Spain, such us

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would hare avoided -__ e have tried
every means lie Theintain amlealde relations with
Spain—me have tried by every Means to avoid the
calamities of war • but things' be brought to the
•situatien in which' they are, and its long as the state
of Spain shall continuo what it ii at present, I de-
elate thot'there is but one way of attacking the
swurattue of Government, and that is to prove that
' it can with honour, with safety, with less injury
' than wOl *auk to the interests which are represent-
Od tp uses being compromised by war,_ maintain
Ammo with that country.
• The honourable Deputy who bos done Me jtutice
with respect to this perticuhir of my character,
might huve rendered me equal juice with respect
to another: it is, that it was estbi, to bear the res.
punsibility of office in time* so di it and' trouble-
some as the present, that I renounced an advantage
which I sus as likely tesprocnans with the ideas
which ho gives me credit fur, as 017 body else. Al-
suredly, I cannot given better pletof my °envie-
tion that it is impossible fur us, • honour and
safety, to remain in our present situation, than is to
be found in my not having quhtqd ofilee with the
opinion that would be uttachellesmy eoatiirieiits for
tire preservation of Spain. lf there ii sacrifice to
inake—if I am to give a pledge and a confirmation
of the truth of my opinion, that what bus been done
has been, as it ought, to be, commanded by the in-
terests of the King and of the country. I have I
made that sacrifice, and I have given that pledge,
by continuing in office with all the burdens they
impose upon me, and by renouncing the popularity
Which I should have acquired by quitting it.
• A state of peaec appears to Me a hundred times
ntiorh preferable than a state of war: so also does a
'nate of war to disgrace—to seeing the most solids,
interests of my country comprOmised; and this un-
doubtedly is the situation in which the Spanish re-
volution has placed us. (Numerous voices on the
right, " Yes, yes; bravo.") For, as has often been
said in tho course of this debate, it is only the blind.
ness and obstinacy of the. Spanialisevolution which
is to blame fur all the evils which may result from
the present situation of things; and herein exists a
great difference between the probability of events,
and the comparisons which it has been wished to
make with what has previously occurred in Spain.
Yes, gentlemen, there is blindness, there is obsti•
nacy, there is even forgetfulness of the interests of
Spain on the part of those who at this moment go
vern in Madrid; arid can you believe that in this
situation a generous interventions dictated by the
most same(' interests on the part of France, will be
received us was the first entrances& tho French ar-
mies into Spain ?
The King declared to you in his speech, that if
the wits be inevitable, he would contract its circle
and limit its duration. In vsin will it be answered
that such expectations were formal entertained,
and that they were diauppointed. But why, gen-
tlemen, were they diaappointed ? Because the war
was undertaken to et:tallish a foreigner on the throne
of Spain, to overthrow the laws of the country, anti
to convert the Peninsula into a province of France.
But, when, far from entertaining any such inten.
Awns, we only present ourselves totuotoin the au-
thNity of the legiticag&ver.. without wishing
to impose any law, Vac; rail see how we curl be pre-
vented from always remaining musters of the power
of circumscribing the mode of the war, and of
miting its iloratiuu.
You have been told, gentlemen, of the dangers t-

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We have in the colonies should be captured in endea.
vouring to enter our hiulours? Will it be those. who
have speculated in colonial commodities.? (Laughter
on the right.) • In very truth, gentlemen, I Lai al.
most said that some individuals have displayed a de-
sire to abuse the credulity of the public ; for you
know the state of our navy; you know that in the
Asores, in der colonies, anti upon our coasts, we have
a much greater number of vessels of war than that :
of unhappy Spain, with whose vengeance you me-
nace us, can furnish from all her ports.
In whatever point of view tlusdebate is consider.
ed, it will of course happen the real question
will be discussed; and that question is—ean the
present state of Sp rip, of which the effects, as far us
they relate to France, can no longer lie concealed,
continue to exist without producing danger and dis-
honour to ourselves? You know the facts: you
have seen the reply, which asks of France to with.,
draw her army of observation from the Pyrenees.
There is one condition of peace. Examine it, gen.
tlemen, and tell us whether, consistently with the • •
preservation of the-honour of the Crown, and the
security of the country, there Ws& say Aitha-part sor • fs..,
t:hc King to take than that which he has deterinii.el
upon taking. A member from this tribune has ad-
vanced an assertion entirely destitute of truth, and
which I must repel. No, gentlemen, France has
not demanded of Spain to adopt the I;rench chantr:
France has not made to Spain any iminuation to •
that effect, nor ought she to have done so. We have
proved our own institutions: we know that they
suit us ; but eau we answer for their suiting another
people? Do you think us so little acquainted with
the charactcr of the Spanish people, as to wish to
impose upon them institutions which shall not have
originated with themselves?

I repeat it, we have no reproach to fear for our
conduct towards Spain. I will say more: the Go-
vernment of the King has done all that way in •its
power to maintain peace : it has Mad, the greatest
sacrifices; an,i you would now accuse us, in this
very tribune, if we had put up front any other peo-
ple what we have for six months endured from
Spain. Nothing but the condition—l will say the
almost pitiable condition—of Spain, could have in- •
duced a state like France to exercise such astonishing
forbearance. Het after having so conducted our-
selves for so lung a time, it was our duty to ask our-
selves if such a state of things could continue with,'
out danger to our country ? We thought it could '
not; trial when the time came fur making known
our opinion on this point, we did it front profound
conviction. For my part, I think I have obeyed
merely the dictates of my conscience. I think that
peace is preferable to MY' but I think, also, that
in the situation of Spain, the maintenance of peace
is impossibleoul that at all events it would be more.
dangerous than war. Fur these reasons, I think
that you cannot refuse the subsidies that are reqoired
of you. (A general movement of acquiescence on
the right side of the chamber.)
The discussion was then adjourned at six o'clock,
for want of sufficient numbers to make u house.
The galleries were filled with Peers of France and
strangers of distinction ; but it was remarked that
the English Ambassador was nut vresent.

The Dean of Salisbury, while walking in his
garden last week, fell .down in a fit of puralysili, by
whit.h he lust the power of one sale, and atter
lingering till Thursday last, he. exulted.

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No. 1,40.—V01.. XVI. SUNDAY, MARCH 2, 1823.* • . Patex 91v . ,
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I'4llo S PAPERS it is, such ,as has plated us undet the necessity of which our commerce will be exposed. Is it possible f
-.0.- baying recourse to war, since wi, could no longer that, hut French Chamber, French orators can come;
PARIS, PER. 25,--We have received a letter from remain at peace with that countrl with bottom and forward to tell us that the war with Spain will
Bayonne, dated the 18th. Many fresh-troops had sodomy • compromise the interests of our commerce? (Voices not then arrived. Two mails from Madrid ware The boa, speaker 'whom Iha followai did- me on the left, " Yes, yes • they are already compro‘
due, but it was expected they Would arrive on that j •
ustice wheelie sold, the IPiesidelat of the Council misel") They are already compromised, lam told. •
or the folloWing day. It was known from traveller; of miniiters would wish to P pesos, to avoid Gentlemen, I repeat the words, for an hon. member ' '
that Sladrid was quite tranquil. There is a report war. .He had no need to speak a Adiniater ;he has used-theta before me. You bring,intit this dia. 1
that Spaiv has determined, in order to secure the had only to refer to them:lntim= of theidpnareli, cession prejudices which ought not to prevail in it.
alliance of England, to side to her, if it should be to he certain that no hireneontiaaed The annunciation of war has predated all the &bet
aired, Ceuta, Isavinge.and, haw. . arafileo* hit • • . loth .pa,pte . `over*Of•ttill Otte!stee; mid that ,edrot no.
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Duke d'Angouleme will arrive at Bourdeaux on the lit° /4" " -WV* iliv—eilNitur,iit ip the greatly pussies' to mention any substantial facts...-.
mitustimt of our morstry, We could pot awash-, Yea; (Lively interruption on the left. Silence was rc. ioth inst. It consists of 13 individuals, 22 horses,
and I have already declared from tlAis teibutite` In the established, and the Minister of Finance proceeded.) -d
two carriages, and 13 gendarmes for escort.
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It is reported this afternoon, that 5,000 seamen secret committee, that it is with legret-...it is only —Ought we not to attribute that moral effect, to • " ,I
have been ordered to be levied at Brest. because honour and safety require 4--that we have which I have just alluded, to the exertiohs of party
VIENNA, Fza. 12..--(Extract from a private !et- recourse to at' {if it had been pomade to avoid %Alit i Indeed, who can fear lest the vessels which ter.)—Etery thing tends to induce the belief that war, we would 'awe avoided it. We have tried we have in the colonies should hp t•aatarsul 1.. mni .. - I