The National Register.
London, England, 1822-05-05 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER

With respect to the country basks, the main object was to pro-
mote the country's security ; for they could not hide from them-
selves how many failures had taken place in England. while
Scotland had three failures in a long series of years, and in those
instances the creditors had been eventually paid. He added, that
in a few days. the (louse would be put in possession of the terms
agreed upon by the bank and the government. Nothing would
be decided) upon—the. House should have the amplest opportunity
of expressing their 4:Acumination, as well as their opinions.
Mr. MANNING defended the conduct of the Bank. It did
not merit the strong epithets that had been used.
Mr. ELLICE said he. thought it would be quite time enough
to talk about the .extension or renewal of the Charter, when
there were three or four, instead of eleven years of Cie charter
yet unexpired.
Petition ordered to lie on the table, after some remarks from
Sir W. Ridley, &c.
MINISTERIAL. PENSION 1111.1..

Mr. CRY VEY gave notice, that on the Ytst i ot. he should
move tier the repeal of the act granting lansitins to Ministers,
and other officers of State, after a stated period of service I or
as it ought inure properly to be term d, the Ministerial Pension
Bill.
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JOINT POSTMASTER.
Lord NOR MAN BY Nought ftwward his motion for an ad-
dress to his Majesty to abolish the office of Postmaster General.
llis Lordship said, that the support given to his previous mo-
tion on this subject had encouraged him to bring forward his
present proposition. As proof of the utility of the office, Lord
Clancarty had been enabled to be absent two or three years; and
he much questioned whether the noble Marquis, on sending his
Lordship. knew that the noble Lord held such an office. Gertain
it was that the office was little better than a sinecure. and, in
the present situation of the country, it was their duty to abolish
nll useless offices. He should conclude by moving that an
humble address be presented to his Majesty, representing that
his Majesty's faithful Commons, relying on the gracious dispo-
sition of his Majesty (as exprassed his answers to former ad
tlrtses tag' that house), to concur in all such measures as the ex-
igencies of the times may require, and in such reductions in the
civil departments of the State, as may be consistent with the due
performanceof the public service. humbly pray that his Majesty
will be graciously pleased to give directions that the office of one
of tile I ostnaastera General be abolished, and the salary of the
office be thereby saved to the public."
The CH ANCZLI.OIt of the EXCHEQUER thought no
sufficient case was made out fur the present motion. The House
had alrcady expressed its opinion on the question, and surely it
was better that the puttlic should have noblemen of charaeter to
fill such an office, roan to entrust the duties to any Board.
Mr. BANK decidedly supported the motion.
Mr. BRIGHT spoke strongly in its favour.
Lord LAINnoN DERRY opposed the motion. It was not,
his kudship contended, called for in any point of view, either as
P. matter or saving, or as tending to gain a more advantageous
performance of the office for the pubiic.
Mr. S. WORTLEY supported the motion, maintaining that
the country wanted relief, and that it could only be obtained by
reducing the establishments, which would produce a diminution
of the taxes. _ _ _

Nir F. BLAKE supported the motion. Reductions were
loudly called fur, and much wanted ; and for those that had
already taken place, he gave the member for Montrose (Mr.
Hume) great credit. He had done snore than all the ministers
put together. (Cheers.)
Mr. MARTIN, of Galway, opposed the motion, and called on
the member for Yorkshire to rally his spirits and declare his
opinion ; and if any one should attack hurt for opposing this
motion, to call on him, and he would become his second.
Mr. 11fACDONALD supported the motion. He contended
that this place was wholly unnecessary to support influence,
whilst ministers had that undue influence which an expenditure
of 65,900,0001. annually gave theta, and whilst that revenue cost
4,1(x),000l. in the collection.

'Mr.. MONEY opForttl the motion—the place of Postmaster
was not a sinecure. In the het year 2.0(10 Reports, embracing
public interests, had been submitted to the Postmasters, and they
had minuted their opinion on each of them. He also contended
that a great responsibility aitaehed to the office, and the abolition
would toss the country, lie was convinced, much Inure than
2,3001. a year.
Lord A. HAMILTON sepported the motion.
Mr. MANSFIELD opposed the motion.
The house then divided—For the mutton, 216—Against it,
201—Majotity for the notion, 13.
The other orders were elispeseil of, and the house adjourned.
IrRID•V. MA'I S.
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Petitions, complaining of Agricultural distress were pre.
vented from Sussex wad she Isle of Ely. Rend and ordered
to be printed.

Mr BLACKBURN presented a petition from the Charn-
ber of Loramerce, Manchester, against the East India no-
Deputy. 11 occasioned an extended conversation, io which
Mr. Marry/di; Sir I. Coffin, at' c. took part.—Yet atom ordered
' to be rutted.
fdr. GLAD STONE presented a petition from the ship-
owners of Greenock, complaining of grievances to which
they were exposed, particularly the charges for light-homes,
under the sanction of the Trinity Ilouse.—Ordered to be
printed.
Mr. HO BIIOU SE presented a petition from Julius Adol-
phus Schroder, complaining of nut he sing been aliened to
hie his bill in the Court of Chancery, because it was nut
tiled by Counsel—Ordered to be printed.
The llouse at its titling was ordered to adjourn to Mott.
day next. -

Mr. 1108110 USE moved, that carious returns respecting
the Insolvent Debtors' Court, its Fees, &c. be printed.—The
lion. member sued, if Ih•s subject were examitbed, he thought
there would be found room for improserucuts.—Motion
agreed

Mr. DAWSON poEponed his motion on the subject of
the Alien Rill to the 21. t inst.—that motion was fora renewal
of that act.

Lord A. HAMILTON presented a petition from the
Burghs' Aceount,, and other Mills, brought in by the Lord
Advocate. His Lordslop complained of the Lord Advocate's
constant postpuorment of those osenwrem ; but he 110%
wished to know when those bills might teal') be expected
to come on for dhcubsion.

The LORD ADVOCATE said, be hnd been constant in
his attendance during the sessioa; he had bet II absent but
one night ; and a• to the Bills he should move uu slouduy
that they beennatnitted.

Mr. KENNEDY obttrved, flint he had held Scotch tie•
titions to reseal : that he had %ailed set e:al evenings for
the presence of the learned Lord before he could prrseut
such petitions.

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Li.nd A. IiAMILI'ON replied.
Mr. J. P. GRANT said, that the complaint against the
GO•Cfiltneill Wll,, thilt halting sullsered important questions to
remain at rest for tell yeors, thew saw uthcrs making ar-
rangements fur their [Holier discussion, and then thr!y pro-
posed to bring, in the rEqui•itchi'l,; those bill:, were brought
10E% artl, but now the, were rtm.iiintly postpuncd.
The peliiioll was then prertittEd; it W 45 how Perth,
against the Loid Advocate's Bills.

Laid AND LION theuprebe nt.ll some similar peti-
thus*, %Nth caned lurch funh s. tunresbutiou lioui 21r.
hunt, Luid liiuuiu;, du.

Lord LONDONDERRY postponed till Monday his rep,
lotion respecting agriculture, lOU account of the pressure of
other matters.
Poeratorron-GsnLRAL..--Lord LONDONDERRY
presented the King's ensurer to the address of Thursday
in which his Majesty acquiesced with the wish of the
house, and said he had only delayed the abolition of the
office in consequence of there being a committee on pub-
lic offices now sitting.
The report on the Naval and Military Pensions was
presented. All were agreed to except the last.
Mr. HUME mowed an amendment to that resolution,
directing, that the Conimissioners for the Sinking Feud
should contract for paying those pensions.
Mr. Cripps and Mr T. Wilson opposed such amend-
ment.

Mr. Whitmore and Mr. Brougham supported it. The
latter said, now that the Chancellor of the Exchequer
began to make arrangements for the reduction of taxes—
for it WKS admitted that the present scheme would enable
the reduction to the extent of f,000,41001.—it was to be
hoped that more reductions might be expected. This was
a good beginning kr the man who, a few weeks ago, said
that taxes could not be reduced one farthini.—( Bear.)
After sonic observations from Mr. Ricardo, Mt. Jones,
Mr. 1). Brown, and milers,
Mr. BENNET urged that ministers ought at once to
take the Sinking rund for the selief of the country , the
public creditor was entitled to his interest, but nothing
inure. The country was entitled to all the relief the house
could give them.
The house then divided on Mr. Home's amendment—
For the amendment, 56—Against it, 136.—The resoltitioa
was then agreed to.
Ille Warrant of Attorney's bill, after some conversation,
went through a committee. The report was received,
and ordered to be taken into further consideration this
day se'nnight.
The Warehousing bill and the West India Trade bill
were postponed.
The report of the Scotch Malt bill was brought up and
agreed to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time on
Monday.
Sir 3. NEWPORT moved for the appointment of a
committee to inquire into and regulate gland jury pre-
sentments in Ireland.—Agreed to.
Mr. IGRENFELL moved Icr copies of correspondence
between the Government and the Bank of England, rela-
tive to the renewal of the Bank Charter.—Agreed to.
The house then adjourned to Monday.

FROM TOEsnAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE.

BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED.
W. Scott, junior, Norwich, contl-mioner.
BANKRUPTS.

W. Watkins, Norton juxta Kempsey, Worcestershire, corn
dealer. Solicitors, Messrs. Collett and Co. Chancery Lane.
J. Prothcro, Hedwellty. Monmouthshire, shopkeeper. Sol.
Mr. Gregory, Clement's Inn.
W. Heath, Cheadle, Staffunlshire, grocer. Sol. Mr. Harbor,
Fetter Lane.

F. Sumam, Crowle, Worcestershire, maltster. Sols. Messrs.
Williams and Co. Lincoln's Inn.
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T. Crust). Norwich, lir.en draper. Sols. Messrs. Tilbury and
Co. Falcon Street, Aldersgate Street.
J. Noakes, Hereford, upholsterer. Sol. Mr. Wright, Hart
Street, Bloomsbury Square.
.1. Ami►s, Hereford, victualler. Sols. Messrs. Hillard and
Co. Gray's Inn Square.
I. Green, Birmingham, ironmonger. Sols. Messrs. Swain and
Co. Old Jewry.
R. B. Roxby, Arbour Square. Commercial Road, merchant.
Sol. Mr. Atcheson, Great Winchester Street.
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G. Davis, East Sionehouse, Devonshire, ship builder. Soli.
Messrs. Raine and Co. Temple.
H. Wilson, Ilatton Garden. auctioneer. Sots. Messrs. Ap.
pleby and I o. Gray's Inn.
T. and E. Bentley, Leicester, brace
Chilton, Chancery Lane.
J. llomley. Newcastle upon Tyne, linen draper. Suls. Messrs.
Constable and Co. Syniond's Inn.

Sul. Nfr.