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present this
afbee snows for the repeal of the "totistiug lew,
affected Protestant Dissenters. The Petition was
worded in salt • manner,
,os•though it undoubt.
toffy comploined, iii the terra, in which they °sight,
of the gritritits#ll wrlffitt which the Petitioners la.
b°. „Wirt'. sea !4.Ho;rse to, do *Rice to
IR!" chliatilaYeA sitU those woo not a siugleexpres..
Woo which could, in any way, he construed to give
}AMnce to• that Howie or to the Poveriiinerit,--
* Was prepared to put the claim or the Prtitioars.
on their uniformly loyal condiicr and ilemeanour. ,
He looked this very day into the Act which imposed
peuslors upon the Dissenters, aid he Amid SW•
they were exactly the same to which restwae aims
in Ireland ore exposed, when they ove.found gdiltt
of bribery in the performance of their office. That
breach of ditty exposed thesis to what the Diiieentera
now suffered, namely, 11 disqualification limn serv-
ing his Msjaity. •
Tn. Petition was brought up and read.
Mr. W. SMITH said, that he we* unwilling sit the
present moment to found a Motion upon this Pest.
ikon, for very obvious rearms. owing to the pre-
occupied state of the public mind upon another
momentous subject; but he could tint let slip the
first Session of the first Parliament of 11.1/tlg reign,
without alvencing the just claims of the Dismal.
tars to the saute privalegee eujoyed by other •
branches of his Majesty's subjects. Thirty year,
had now elapsed since an application of this kind
was made iu the same manner from this most re-,
spectable body. Early next Session be should call
the attention of Parliament •to this subject. At
presegt he should content hint-elf with moving that
the Petition du lie on the table.
THE ENGLISH CATHOLICS.
Lord Ntlti OPT mid, that be would take the op-
portunity. is seconding tht• nslition. to allude to IV
Petition upon a similar subject which he had fur
some time had in Isis possess from the English
Catholics. It hail been always hit opinion that ex-
clusion from eligibility to civil office, no account
of mere °pigskins upon spiritual subjects, was so.
anomaly in the euliglitaird limes iu which they
lived, and a prilicislit too unfair aid too illiberal,
to he tolerated in a free country.—(Hear.)—The,
petition in los posse-warn he had already said, was.
from that very large ,and highly respectable bod*
of leis Majesty's subjects, the English
a body than whom there did not rust a more re-
spectable or a more resilient cla•a. • To withhold
the just claims they sought Irmo such a set
of men was marked injosticr. The missals he had
nut presented their Petition already, and that which
now iufluenced him in decl • gto present it at this
moment, was, that he coals, not expect to receive
fur such a question that attention to which it was
entitled, considering the immediate sad **Nit"
important subject which now. to the exClusiSil•St
every other, filled the public mind. His Petition,
in itself of nu ordinary importance, could not yet
be expeletra. iu the pieseut temper of affairs, to re.
ceive that consideration which it required ; lie was
therefore compelled to withhold it until a more fa-
vourable moment arrived for giving 41 that-effect
which it ought to produce. The Petition of the
English Catholics contained weighty reasons in sup-
port of its prayer ; it also contained an argurneot
the roost conclusive lie had vet read, against the
old doctrine of divided allegiance, so often urged
against the Catholics, so often satisfactorily cosier*.
dieted by them, and yet so miaccomitably reassert-
ed against them, but never before now (often as it
had been, he repeated. witisfsciorily repelled) so
conclusively and unanswerably refuted. to second-
ing the motion of his Hsu. Friend, he begged par-
don for this allusion to the Petition in his posses-
siois.—(llene, hear.)
The Pelotas presented by Mr. Wm. Smith was
then laid on the table, anal ordered to be printed.
SIR PETER MURRAY.

Mr. ADEACKOMBY ruse for the purpose of giv-
ing hi, Noble Friend near him an cpportunity of
correcting a mistake which had gone forth (not in
this Paper) tit an account of a speech of his on ■
former uigbt, stud winch had given great ■nd un-
deserved pain to an imlivultial. It had gone forth
that his Noble Friend bad said, that Government
had made (or were snakure) Sir Peter Murray a
fifth Baron of the Esclwq•er in Scotland, to get
rid of his being • candidate for Perthshire. Now
his Noble Frtend had said. h.. was sure, no such
thing; and It would he gratif)ing to the feelings
of the party of whom the misreport had gone
abroad, to have it contradicted as publicly as it
was promulgated.
Lord A. HAMILTON regretted that such a miss
take had any where occurred, and also that that
contradiction of it had not sooner taken place ; at
this distance of time be could not restate the exact
expreaanin he lied timed, but most certainly it hail
nu reference to Sir Peter Murray. but was directed
to another quarter, and even there not in the extetit
in which it had been mentioned el.ewliere.
Mr. ADERCROMITY thanked his Noble Friend for
correcting the emir.
VICTUALLING OFFICE.
On the motion of Colonel DATUM, papers were
ordered concerning the victualling at troops, con-
victs, stud others tes llw Col 111 l lea.

BARRACK AGREEMENT BILL.
The CHANcat.t.ou of the Excumtuts moved
the Order of the Day fur the second reading of the
Barrack Agreement Bill.
Mr. CALCILIIII .said he must oppose this mo.
lion. In the present slide of the country it was
important to save every shilling that could be
spared in the public expenditure. The (object of
the Bill was to pay the expense of providing slew
barracks in the Regent's Palk for the 2.1 regitileitt
of Life Guards. Now he agreed that stew quartets
ought to be provided fur this turps rod lie had nu
objection to the Deg ►ite for the barrocks ; but Int
thd object to the proposed estimate for the eXptww,
in harms% of winch he did nut dila ecorsomy had
been auffictently consulted. —1 Hear.)--lt was said
that the sum to be paid for the owe arrangement
was wily the same a. that paid for the old in-
convenient tune in litrigwitreala Portman-square.
wowsely, dolma. a )eur, ■ soon which, however. a
Autry looked tutu particulate, would be fosotdn.►t at
elk a isootteut, applied 10 the mere barrack ex-
treme at lite sues. He, weep/1y objected to the
row areetmeut fur the barracks iu the Beirut'.

The CHAN eI:ET-0100%40 E scarilu RI said. teili
crew the candour of the Hon. Gentlemen the groom'
or discos:ow het) been considerably narrowed. it
bog bet 4 eibbitted that it natal,' be better to build
it new barrack 11140 esob!nit tiny longer to the locos'.
veniener of the A coo.ttlenthle ergo.
meta which he toitt to offer in forest of that wee,
that sin adititinn 'multi be mule to the ennuis,

expenditure thereby. iisijt "multi only require a
continpiption for 14 woe of ail expense which hid
bern•uniforstily isicurird in past yaws. He thought
the Hawse would see the necessity of havisse the
.regiettent'quartertitt rtr ewer Lenin's. All the
contingesteir, or nhortetinc iltem had beets includ-
ed in the annual amyl rtf. 5,400/. which would, its
the end, lie entirely Lived by building the new hat.
racks. Those renews... with the same main-
gencies, had amounted doting the war to 6,000%
whereas, by paying in average of 3,400/. for 91
years, the country would possess an excellent pile
of buildings, sumt likely in good repair, juntad of
paying as they slid now the seine snooty without
any such ulterior advantage.' He did slot think
there wa►auy cause of Waage in the manner of coo-
ducting the contract. On the 6'h June ground
had been insikesi its anticipation of that contract ;
on the 7th July he had brought down a proposition
to the House for providing Ile berracks, which was
agreed to by a Committer. The Government were
fulty warranted its concluding that the bargain was
not objectionable to the Home. lie (Hoot conceive
that there were tiny well-grounded reasons of coin-
plaint which could he urged against the measure.
Lord NUGENT concurred with the opinion of his
Hots. Foiesid. His objection was not to the porn-
cull'r measure, but to the system of Larracks
.relly. which tended to interrupt whet Blackstone
very properly called that circulation of feeling and
opinion, and that cunnnuuinn of thought. and
views upon subject* of common interest, which
were tiefessery to the secure existence of a free
smite. He was not ashamed of these old-fashioned

lions because they were old-fashioned, because
'Miry were in declining repute in that House : they
'had been eutertained by wise men, whose profession
of them was enough of itself to give loon confidence
in their propriety; they were the opinions of Sir
G. Saville and Sir W. Jones, who had pointed out
means fur Preserving the plastic peace much more
congenial to the Ceitatittirten. tle was confirmed
in trusting to their opinions, by the spirit which
had beets manifested by some of the military on a
late occasion, and which would have been checked,
arid ;whips never displayed, had the estoblish-
meid been put on a footing of the most rigid eco-
nomy, instead of having a standing force, so use.
less for a time of profound peace. This could not
lead to any good. A military government was not
compatible with the *drainer of civilizetion. The
military governments of Europe were crumbling
around us; only one of tltym, the Turkish, had
any principle of stability, and that arose front its
having been able effectually to check the growth
of civilizitson. Ili tiny other core military govern.
melds mull he subservient to their troops ; he in.
stauced the insolence of the Pisetorian bands its the
decline of the Roman empire. Would not posterity
be likely to ask how it came to parr, that in 1819
England found herself immersed in ruin and mu-
ftis' through almost all her ranks, her commerce
'massed, her %rico! ha thstreastd, her finances
ruined? What would there be the answer, what
cause would be assigoed ? Why that she had come
gloriously out of a successful struggle, which was
said to secure to her " indemnity for the past sod
security fur the future !" Perhaps they would say,
that the country was overrun with mastery; that it.
face was covered with barracks, depicts, and maga.
tines, because England wss utiable otherwise to
curb the discontent which the sufferings and pries.
tions itcflictvd eits her people. by dial glorious con-
test and victory, excited. He held in his hand a re.
urn, which Iliad been made tom mounts of his, fur pro-
ducing accounts of allowances which had been made
in the military. for services rendered in tpiellink riots,
The Noble Secretary for the War Departiurot
had assured him at the time, that those allowance's
were paid its kind. Ile found co entry in the
papera of 911. per them for every sion•commirsisowd
officer unit private. with a direction that it was to
be laid out under the direction of the commanding
officer of each battalion io pinch:ming such requi-
sites as appeared to 1 to be insist welded by
the troops. Sn that here was a direct stipend to
be distributed to the forces by their separate com-
manders, on occasions of popular tumult, usistitho.
rised by l'ailtatneitt, unaccounted for to
Yarlu-
meut. He would make no motion on the subject,
as he knew that the spirit and temper of the times
woulff nut Sidnitt tor-a -farther excitement. He
only offered this as a specimen of the effects of hay.
iug to trust to a Illihtery system of governing.
A division then took place—
Foe the account reatliag Pti
Against it 4O

Majority.... S$
SCOTTISH MALT ALLOWANCE BILL.
The Order of the Day 14 rrbiliVilig the House
C 1111 l nsittrr on this Bill mt. then reed.
Sir J. MALJOIMIANKS mo!ed, that it should be
1411 itistruct 1111 l to the Cutiono tee that they bad
power to repeal the duty tot barley malt.
The SPEAKU, before he put the question, re-
mioded the House of its forms. The Bill was fur
reductug the duty no big tnalt. The proposition
had originated in a former Coo 0000 ittee, before whom
the Acts which imposed the ungsnal duty were laid,
-hating hreis entered as read. A Resolution of that
Committee had recommended a reduction of the
ditty on bigg, but mot tin barley. A Bill to that
effect hint bees) brought in. stud had gnus through
all its stager till then, wlwu it wits 'twinned to go
into Committee upon it. The doubt which
stuck him is'as, whether the House could, upon
the queatsen of the Barley Malt Duty, proem/
immediately with the saute measure as they were
Omit tuadopt with respect to bigg melt, without
ring through the same intermediate Coma.
• Orr a short discussion upon tba point between
Mi. liaiikes, Mr. J. P. Grant, the Speaker, and
I Mr. Aimiterouthy, the instrection was withdrawn.
Lord A. HAMILTUS COMplibialit of the Mites.

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had never lyres, nes
the 'tight limiest-
_ to allow. and now
exceedingly partial in its
oven rendered imp omitdu foe him or
soy other Member to prepare a clen•e of efrectual
relief, because they did not know how much or huesz
little woutd be granted. The old ditties on men.
had been Is. 4.1. on Ringlisli malt, and 7d. sin'
&tub+. An roof extreme injustice had been done
mall Scotch gummy, mobsters, distillers. and brew•
el", by eittaliting the duties. tip to the Mgt
week in Joly, there sae the ditiference between
es►ihsh ■nd Scotch malt duty between I•. 3 I. rod'
7d. ; by it auluequent Act which hod been pmeted..
was levied ou both. Thus had one been des
armed 3d. nod the oilier advenced 3d. ; ■nd ibis
Art a century's experience had shewn that the in.
dulgeuce to Scotch malt was absolutely necessary
to make up for other disadvantage,. There wan,
betide-, on Scotch tile and beer a special tax is
most of the towns in Scotland, isedeprostlent of thom
laid on by the Right Honotorable Gentleman. If
something were tint done, no large distiller in Sable
land would be able to work front Scotch malt.

Mr. DUNDAS said. that ihe Chancellor of the
Ettchequrr was nut to blame for the delay of the
proposed measure of rebel. At the "ante tier he

admitted that Scotland ought to be put upssti.hee
old footing with respect to the malt duty. awd be I
t serf to use him utmost persuasion to iodises his
Right Hon. Friend to restore the proportion of
duly which had been kept up for a century past.
Lord A. HAMILTON explained.
The House then went into Committee.
Sir J. MADJURIOANKS said that lie must oppose
the Bill. He complained of the precipitancy with
which it had been brought forward, while most of
the Members interested were in Scotland. He
thought it hard to extract us high a duty from the
pourer country, Scotland, as from England. Hr
generally supported Ministers, but lie would oppose
them on this measure in every word.—(4 laugh.)
Most people who vivited Scotland did them the
Honour to acknowledge the superiority of their agri-
culture, and the Right Hon. Gentleman, in laying
011 the additional duty. had gives' us one reason
why the Scotch malt was able to bear as heavy •
duty as the English, the improved state of agri-
culture iii Scutlaud: hut was it ever before in the
world offered to impose a heavier duty on any
people, because they used more skill and industry
than their neighbours ? He bed refused to present
• petition against the Bill, because lie did not think
at the time that the Right Hon. Gentleman was iu
earnest in laying on the new duty ; lie did nut
believe that lie would even persist in it. He point•
ed out the effect *lnch heavy duties had in demi.
wishing cousumption, and thereby impairing the
resources of the revenue. Formerly claret was
plentifully drank in Scotland. lit 179 it. a con-
siderable duty was imposed ou it, which luting
gradually augmented, had at length produced the
effect of preventing any consumption of it at all.
Not a barrel in a year was imported into Scotland.
John Home, the author of Douglas, had written—
‘r Hardy sad hold tbe Caledonia• atotyd.
Cold was his n►•twn. and his claret Cued;
' Let hint 4ri•k port,' the haughty Statesman cried;
He drank the fondue, bat his spirit died."
But what said the Statesman now, when he was no
longer able to taste port, nor even whiskey ? Let
hint drink bets.; yet the prophecy of John Home
had not beets fully realized, lie had drank the poi-
son, but the spirit had not/died. Witness seve►al
proofs which the enemy had received of the con-
trary during the late war—(Lawghter.)
Alter some further remarks the House resumed,
and the Report was ordered to be received to-
morrow.

THE DONAGHADEE HARBOUR BILL.
Mr. KERR stated several objections to the third
reading. He thought that the House ought to be
as well assured of the propriety of the plan, and of
the correctness of the estimates, as the Committee.
lie strongly objected to the imposition of new port-
age duties to pay the expenses of ii.
Mr. ARTHUR CHICHESTER said a few words.
Mr. K ERR expl.tined.
A Member, whose name we could not learn,
spoke, but was out audible in the gallery. After
which the third reading of the Bill was postponed
till to-morrow.
'Elie Irish Spirits Intercourse Bill was ordered to
be read u third time to-morrow.
The House went into a Committee on an addi-
tional clause to the Scotch Distillery Bill ; after
which the House resumed, and the Bill was read
the third time slid passed.
The Insolvent Debtors' Bill (Ireland) was read
a third time and passed.
The Report on the Army Prize-money Bill was
receired.—The Bill to be read a third time to-
morrow.
The Bankruptcy Court Bill went thronk a

Committee.—Report to-morrow.
The Scottish Fisheries Bill went through a Corn-
mittee.—Report to-morrow.
The Lords' A mendineuts to the Labourers' Wages
Bill were read and agreed to.
On the motion of Mr. MARTIN, the order for the
attendance of the printer and publisher of The
'Warning Herald at the bar of the House to-morrow,
was read and discharged.
General Mar, not observing the Right Hon.
Gentleman the Secret,lry for Ireland iti his place.
beggrd to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite
if any accounts had been received by Government
of a circumstance which he had been informed of.
A smuggler was met by two Excisemen in the
near neighbourhood of Derry, in • situation where
he could not escape, a high wall being on one hand
nod the sea on the other, in which situation the
mail, notwithstanding his otter to surrender, w•s
shut through the body by one of the officers. At
the Assizes for the. County of Donegal he recol-
lected two pennons were tried under Lord Ellen-
borough's Act, one of whom had been climged
three times with a similar offence.
The CtLinati.Loa of the EICHEQVIER said he
was entirely nuacquainted with the circueastence
to which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded, but his
Right Him. Friend. the Secretary for Ireland.
might probably be able to answer his ciustation to-
morrow.
The Howe then adjourned.

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