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THE NATIONAL REGISTER

noble marquis was of opinion that political sects were
dangerous to governments, yet he was not prepared to say
that, were it his misfortune to live in a despotic country, i
where he had no security for person and property, lie I
might nut hook for protection to any political sect. M-
though this sect was said to be recent, it was of ancient
origin; he had authority for saying that it was known in
the time of the Emperor Leopold. In effecting the de-
liverance of Italy from liiionspai te, that sect Wee instru-
mental. It was however said; it was working in the dark.
That was most extraordinary, where the power of the
police was able to suppress it; but did the government of
Meade expect 'a change or revolution in a government
was to be made pnblic upon the church-dour before it
was carried into effect? Then the declaration went on to
describe the late government as a most paternal one, and
that its efforts werl ent in checking the Carbonari.
11 by that was the • reform was brought about.—
The Austrian gover assisted that paternal govern-
ment, but took no steps to reduce the burthens of the
people. He did not wish to reflect on the monarch of
Naples, but from his.own experience, he was enabled to
say the uersonal liberty of the subject was not at all
respected. About four or five years ago, said the noble
marquis, there was great distress in Naples, amounting to
a famine. Under that distress a person suspected of hav-
ing a share in the monopoly, was thrown into a dungeon.
At that lime an English general officer tumid means to
get to him in bit dungeon, which was half' filled with
water. The person said lie could be charged with no
crime, and the only thing he could recollect as being
likely to injure him, was a conversation about the best
mode of disposing of his corn, and for that lie was put in
confinement at the mercy of the minister. The officer
waited on the minister, who denied that lie put the per.
sou in prison. The officer returned to the dungeon, and
was told it was by order of the minister the person was
detaiued. The English officer, who had • friendship for
the prisoner, went again to the minister's office and was
told by the secretary the person was so confined because
it was understood the minister might wish to speak with
him. The unfortunate mail, thus deprived of liberty,
only oubtained his release in consequence of the inter-
ference of the British officer The noble marquis left
the house to say, whether, ler such a state of things,
people might not enquire for an amelioration, and whether
a change of government was not to be expected ? Could
any man say this was a maternal government, so pure that
no change or revolution ought to take place? The allies
had ventured not only to represent it as • mild beneficent
government, but they had invited all the world to take op
anus to maintain it. After it lung and able speech, the
marquis concluded by moving au address to his Majesty,
praying he would be pleased to give directions that com-
munications be made to all the courts of Europe, dis.
claiming the proceedings of the allied powers with respect
to Naples.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL defended the conduct of
his Majesty's government, and refused to comply with
the notion, because the paper laid oa the table contained
full information upon all the views and proceedings of
government.
Lord GREY supported the motion. After some further
discussion the house divided.

Not Coattails 42.—C:onions 32.—Majority W.—Ad-
jourued.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
stioarivv, FES. 'A.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a petition from 4(
owners and occupiers of land iu Surnersetshire, complain-
ing of agricultural distress ; unless some relief were
afforded, they said they should be obliged to withdraw
their capitals.
Similar petitions were presented from the Eastern and
Western Divisions of Kent, Monmouthshire, Hertford,
Limerick, Cardiff, &c.
Mr. LAMB presented a petition from Royston, praying
for parliamentary reform.
Sir C. COLE presented a petition from Leith, praying
for the restoration of the Queen's name to the limo+,
Ordered to be printed, on the motion of Mr. Hume.
Mr. ANSON presented a petition, which, he said, me-
rited the attention of the house, because the subject had
occasioned considerable alarm amongst the ship-owners ;
it was from Great Yarmouth against any alteration of the
timber ditties.—Read, and referred to the foreign trade
commiisce.

Mr. Cs. BENNETT remarked, that interested indivk
duals were petitioning on the subject. The object ought
to be to procure a good article at a cheap rate to the
consumer; but the petitioners' object was to continue to
supply the public with a bad article at a dear rate.
Sir M. W. RIULEY observed, that the merchants only
wished to prevent that t which would follow any sud-
den change of these diities,they having now continued fur
a long time—remarks iu which
Mr. ANSON coincided.
lar petitions were presented from Newcastle-upon-
Tyne, Aberdeen, and Sunderland.
Mr. T. WILSON presented the petition of ship owners
of London against the Hull Poor Rates' bill.
SCOTCH ADMIRAILTY.—The report of the Scotch Ad-
miralty Compensation List was presented. On the motion
that it now be agreed to,
Mr. CREEVEY moved, that fur " now" be substituted
" this day six months." Suck a resolution was never
heard of before in this world; it proposed to make com-
pensation tor fees that relight be abolished, for losses that
might be sustained by possible and prospective changes.
Scotland seemed to have taken alarm, that the tiist clerk-
ship, a sinecare of I,IOM. was about to be abolished. He
could not see what objection there could be to the motion.
The LORD ADVOCATE ob .d, that it had been
recommended by conmintees to abolish the extract system
—to institute compensation in its stead. Heretofore toe
gentleman received ti or tstll. a year ! lie now would re-
ceive nut more than our-sixth. It' the practice Mere to
be abolished, it was but just that there should be this
compensation.
Aitivothitent withdrawn, Mr. Creevey understanding
that the Lord Ad+ocale would consider himself to bland
pledged to provide the house with a bill of taut when the
bid was brought in.
Report agreed to, and bill ordered accordingly.
The General inclusive Amendment bill was read a
second tune.

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COHN VF,K AGE3.-Mr. F. ROBINSON moved that
the house resolve itself Into a committee oil the Curia
Averages' Act. Agreed to. The house haviug resolved
itself iiitusuch committee,

Alt. F. ROLSINSON said, as there wen: four •cvcial

sets and a great variety of clauses, he Arnold first propose
to repeal those former acts. He proposed to embody the
regulations in one act, and that bill would not be more
than tone-third the extent of the present laws. 'Fhe
averages were now taken from the maritime districts; but
the alterations lie intended to introduce would be accord-
ing to the recommendations of the committee of last year.
The mode lie should propose extending to all the districts,
which might produce a lower average t but lie intended
to abolish the districts, relying on counties, Sec. As the
averages were at present struck, it was possible for one
individual by a small sacrifice to produce a fictitious
return, which *mild affect the general average return.
He proposed that the amounts. as well as the clean ti t ies,
should be added together, and thus the average price
obtained. Three Counties, Kent, Essex, and Middlesex,
werc omitted in the returns. He proposed to introduce
them, and to exempt the inland counties ate' Scotland,
the returns from those places being calculated to misleads.
As to the inspectors' salaries, he should propose to relieve
the counties from such burdens, and transfer the power
to the magistrates of counties, or the mayors of towns, to
grant allowances not exceeding 901. fer any one year.
The present salary was 151. He should also propose net
to repeal the penalties regarding dealers not entering their
names, &c. There were many alterations to which. ha
might allude—but in the bill they would be flatly seen.
He proposed to incorporate the inspector of corn averages
with the board of trade. The Isle of Man was excludes
from the former acts, but he now wished to include it.
He concluded with moving, that it was expedient to
repeal the corn laws, and to enact others in lieu thereof.
Mr. CALCRAFT said, he ♦iewed any proposition to
affect the corn laws with great jealousy, thinking that the
less they were meddled with the better it would be; but
lie should wait for the bringing in of the bill, which lie
should follow most watclifidly.
Mr. RARING lamented that this period was selected
for the introduction of this bill, as it would lead to the
expectation that something was going to be done with the
corn laws. Nothing in fact was to be done to relieve any
party; and as to the average prices, the imperfect mode
had been taken into consideration when the bill corn was
dosed. It was then said that 808. would in fact be more
than 765.; so that if the new mode of taking the average&
was to make the 80s. really such, the importation price
would be advanced. He lamented that the bill was
brought in at this particular period, because it would
occasion alarms ou the one baud, and excite false hopes
on the other.

Mr. F. LEWIS said, that when the averages were
spoken of, the imperfect mode of striking them was taken
into consideration; it was known that the nominal were
greater than the seal averages. Therefore the importa-
tion price would be increased, if the real average were
to be raised to what the former nominal average had
been ; and he must protest against any advance of the
real average price, which was to coestroul the importation
of corn. He objected against the Irish returus being in-
cluded, as they would lead to error.
Mr. CIJRWEN said, this bill was most necessary. It
ought to pass as rapidly as possible. The Isle of Man had
afforded the means of practising time grossest fronds.
Corn had been imported there direct from Dental& He
heartily concurred in the necessity of the measure; but if
no ulterior measure were contemplated, this would be as
hopeless as it would be useless in affording relief to the
farmer. He hoped the ministers would speak out—that
they would let the country know what it was they Meant
—that they would not let the Session pass without doing
something to relieve the country's agricultural interest.
Mr. W. DOUGLAS hoped, that this would not be the
last measure introduced for the relief of agriculture,
Mr. RICARI)O said, that the proposed mode undoubt-
edly would have the effect of raising the importation
price; but there was no remedy except in repealing all
their corn laws, and in bringing down the prices to those
of the continent. He was persuaded that there was no
remedy for the evils complained of, but by repealing all
their corn laws.—(Cheers.)
Mr. LOCKHART observed, that however useful the
proposed bill might be, it would afford no real relief re
the farmer. Unless something was done ruin would
come. Agriculture would stop payment ; it was not
banks alone that stopped payment • agricieture might do
so. He implored the house to act before it was too late.
Motion agreed to, and leave to bring in the bill granted.
The remaining orders having been disposed of, the house
adjourned.
TUESDAY, TES. ItT.

Mr. WYVILL presented a petition from York against
the Hull poor rates' bill.
Petitions complaining of agricultural distress were
presented from the Truro agricultural society; Suffolk.
Worcestershire, Northamptonshire, Olamorgaushire, and
Sussex.

Mr. H. BLAIR moved for returns of the quantity of
grain and Hour of all sorts imported and exported, iron►
Jan. 1791, to Jan. 1821, distinguialting each year. Also
fur the return of the average price of corn and dour, .isc.
Ordered.

Lord ALTHORP brought in his bill for the more effec-
tual and summery recovery of small debts ill England and
Wales.

IN PILE Rot DS.—Mr. 11. GILBERT moved for leave
to bring iii a hill to amend the acts regarding trusts and
turnpike roads in the neighboorlioo,' of the metropolis.
Although the roads were so expensive, costing 10001. per
mile each year iu some instances, they nevertheless were
must disgraceful. It was out the result of any system of
peculation, but of the disqualification of the individuals
engaged. It was proposed to divide the roads into three
districts i—urie division South of the Thames, another
North East, and another North West of the Thames ; to
be tinder the direction of particular trustees, who were to
be elected by the general body of trustees. There might
be great improvements in the mode of making the roads,
by introducing better motet ials and more scientific plans
of forming theist. He said there was no intention ofplacing
the,,roads under the nianagerueut of the goveinment ;
there never hail been such intention, and lie was anxious
to take this early opportunity of contradicting an ciliation
that had gut very extensive currency. lle concluded
with moving fur leave to bring in a bill to consolidate the
turnpike trusts DI the neighbourhood of the metropolis.
Atter some remarks from Mr. CALCItAFI', &c. the
motion WSS !tweed to.
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The ATTISI..NEY-GENERAL obtained leave to bring
in a bill to amend the law tegaiding the trailskr of *tuck
belonging to lunatics.
Mr. LAJAS (Dublin) obtained lcavi. to bring in a bill