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it was folly to spend a Catkin more io producing
Them than their cost at a foreign market. He at.
tributed no small Sl►ar. of the present di.tress to the
return to cash payments, mud lamented that ►.o
one had before premed the considerstion of it on
the House. He was afraid that Ins Hon. Friend,
the klen►l►er for Northellertoo, haul not duly esti-
mated the danger of that procedure and its effects.
He rather hoped than feared that the depression
we, at the wort. The five millions proposed by
the Caaueellor of the Exchequer had tousled out as
yet to 1n no more than one million. He thanked
the 11,.... !U•wer fo► the Petition, and bi. manner of
briot;i•og it before the House. %Viten the body of
Liiiallos, Merril:MlS skewed themselves so much tar
telested to the question, the country most be int-
pre.ped with the difficulties which surrounded it.
Mr. Ricinvo defessuled the return to cash pity.

Metal*. !be eon„ try reverted to that MeSOUK
with a &gar of ease and facility. which could
scarcely have been expected. Ile objected to the
exclusion of agricoltuie, ur any taller branch of
produce, being excluded from the principles of
free and unrestricted competition. If. indeed, the
lauded proprieti.rs could skew that they suffered
twculoar bortkos, they would be entitled to the
advantage of restrictive me:tourer to put them on a
'noting with the tither classes. 13u1 was this the
case ? To be yore the poor rates might be con-
►idrred a burden peculiarly pressing on the land,
but it was shared by the other classes in a very
heavy degree. The owners of houses paid large
portions of it; but then a protection for the price
of corn did not affect them. He was far from
wishing to revert to a free system suddenly.—
Those who had einbaiked their capitals in different
branches of trade under the prohibitory and re-
strictive regulations, should have time to withdraw
them again. The example of cash payments he
considered as a perfect plan for the gradual re-
moval of partial regulations of any kind. The
effect was spread over a great spice of time, and
the incouvenience felt during such period became
in is manner insignificant.
Lord MIII.ToN explained.
Mr. ELLIcII supported the prayer of the Peti-
tion. He differed from the Hon. Member (Mr.
Ricardo) in his estimation of the return to cash
payments, as lie considered that the loss was a great
deal more than the difference between the market

price of bullion mid the rate of payment **signed
to the Bank. One fact spoke volumes. Every
article, ',wept corn, which was protected by pro-
hibitory duties, had fallen sitter that ►etutu from
20 to 50 per cent. The dist►ess and alarm wereex-
erbrive it Scotland. The&Alley had lls poor rates
as in England ; the consequence was, that the
cap,tieliats withdrew their properly precipitately;
while in Lancashire, where the deficiency of wages
was made good by the pro• rates, the maoulat-
tures kept rather on the increase, and if something
was not done, the manufactures of Scotland would
be destroyed altogether.
Mr. MARRTAIT was not averse to the prayer or
principles of the Petition. But he feared the in-
terests of the financial department would clash
with any pmpositiou for au alteration of the com-
mercial gement.
Mr. WiLsori spoke nearly to the same effect.
Mr. BARING. in reply, was surprised at the ge-
nera' concurrence with the principles of the peti-
tioners, which was enough to make the House won-
der why they had gone on an long under a system
so full of acknowledged defects. He replied to
Mr. Hicardo's observations on cash payments.
The depreciatiou in the currency on the war, toed
Met on the present price" of articles, made a greater
difference in the value of the engagement than the
Honourable Member seemed to itosgiue. He con-
ceived that the debt was the grew cause of depress-
( woo. In dealing with that, the country was tint
required, in fairness, to do more titan observe the
letter of the engagement. The return to cash pay-
meads and the consequent depreciation in the value
of commodities, amounting to at least 25 per cent.
was equal to a bargain to pay so much mo►e.
When he saw. as the general result of these. a de-
creasing revenue ■nd commerce, he could not but
think that the country had undertakes§ to do more
than it was able to perform.
Mr. RICARDO rose and said a few words in ex-
planation.
The STCARER then put the question, that the
Petition do be on the table. when
Mr. Iticaeho rose again. to beg. if consistent
with the forms of the House, to add one obseeva..
tint', which was, that inasmuch•as the currency,
it consisting of two metal-, would he subject to
more veriat ttttt s than if it only consisted of one, so
far lie thougla the proposition of his Hon. Friend
would be an improvement.

Mr. BARiwe referred to the French currency in
stopport of hot former statements.
The Prtiti tttt wit theu ordered to be brought up
and laid go the table.

Mr. FINLAY presented a Petition from the
Chamber of Commerce of Edinburgh, of a similar
nature to the preceding. which was brought up,
laid we the table, and ordered to be printed..
CIVIL LIST.
The Crixtvcer.t.un of the ExcHreura moved
the Order of the Day for the Howie going into
Committee of Supply nu the Civil List. Iu ruing
to move this, be hail, he said, no explanation to
make, ur way prorivition, beerosse he thotsght the
arrangement made in the year 1816 haul effected
every oileantage which they had calculated upon.
Ina luenni hi the argument, which hail her.; orgril for
✓ previous inquiry before any rertlt meta of the Civil
Lest, he meta that so far from ittpory having always
precede.! 11. iu fact the money w.s is general voted
upon a simple usesvage (ruin the Crutvo. The Civil
List. as insw classified and arranged. had pievritird
the accumulation of arrears, and in every

respect. • full Sell complete check. Fur a long
period of base before the revolui 1111 l tory Ica with
France, there had Ile linear accrued us the Civil
List. but the rise which mirk place slier that
event in the price of eves, rettrosary of Isle cau.ed
the Civil List to become insufficient for its pur-
pose, and large arrears accrued ; it was therefore.
le 180-41. milinutted to the iiivestittat ttttt ni a Parlia-
rimistaty Committee; they inside a report, rend a
further provision was made. Fruut that period to
11114 grouts were oceasivatilly made bona the
DMUS, wlawls pearreisted any Comitlrrable acconsus
basun eierreen. The aashject was there *gabs briroglit
beiftreir Paslasuseut. etul “ MIS &Med
Lieu that the *saws ssfr gesiewediteire tbew sasesibied

to 144,000% per annum. A forth*, increase will
then made, and in the year 1815. it was itziA
brought under the cousideratimi of a
in consequence of whose Report the Civil Last 044
arranged as it now stands. and the follawiog edition.
Cages were the result:—l' was relieved 143011 vs,
ninny contingent and ocessional payments, 011.1 int
effective check afforded I. prevent misuse. anal go int
the interest of the. public ; and ttiou.4l) of stasis
consideration. yet it should he roamer did ettriti4
its advantages. that there was sin hunger the Olean.,
to the permits halving small pensi 111 l s or Ilalanle•,
was formerly the whets the Civil List as, 4r-
(pithily six or 'tyro quarters its smear ;
of economy, the public tritercbt was Ortirlit&l by
the arritigeinent of the establishment of 1816, t,
the amount of 135.0001. He thought. theienire,
that he was fully justified in callitig 11. e
House for their approval of that rata:ills:moos%
The estimate now before the :louse 144. soh-
as in ISIS. The Privy Purse only was 1•••16,,..,
in the first class ; with that exception the •11..;e
the first class had fallen In, and was trot i i the a...-
sent estimate. The Right flores..Gentlem iti cnn.
chided by stating, that if he hail qosnteil auy
there would other opportunities error when
,re.
would be ready to give every explaiiation so bus
power. He then moved shat rise llxitwt sal the
Committee of Supply be now read.
Lord JOHN IlliSityLt. said, it was with recs.:de,.
able pain he rose to oppose the motiou of the
Hon. Gentleman. Ile *horrid have been forpm
the Ministers would have saved him the
by granting that time for inquiry, %stitch he
thought was indispensable for the House to have.
though he confessed he hail hut slender hopes at'
success, when he otwerved the learning, nit, aunt
eloquence of au Hon. and Learned Genticuuni sot
a former Leming, had tint induced else 'alas isiru
to accede to Ida demand. Ile would put it to toe
House whether. as represeitLiiives ( the peoph.
newly returned with all their i.romises situ profes-
sions scarcely from their lips, it should be said they
had accepted a Report lomight dawn by the Moen-
ten, which hot us e-iliird of their Menthe:shad had
all 11p1h.II 1111 l ty of exatatiiiiiig—ur whether it sliou!‘i
be Enid, that after the fullest reanimation and in.
gutty, they had conic to a decision ante their J 011,4.
memo fully informed. This latter coarse would,
lie contended. he not only mere beneficial to the
King, but also more satisfactory to the country.
The first consideration was the lime, a time 'Owes
the camplaints of all classes or his Majesty's sub-
jects resounded through the country. This assists-
sal distress he must in part attribute to the resumin.
lion of bullion payments, by which a difference
had beets made to the value of the currency
of not less than 25 per cent.; so that it would
appear that the country, hottesd of lo:.viog hail
o reduction of taxation, had in fat t laboured
under a burden considtrobly greater than at the
linter period of the war. la this state lie must at
least pause before he proceeded. As to the Civil
List itself, if it was the most perfect that could he
drei.ed—:if it exceeded iii economy the American
Republic—still it was the duty of that House to
look folly into the sohject.—(Hear )---ff • large
suns was to be voted to the way the Right floss.
Gentleinau seemed to think it right—stern lie would
say the Ileums of Common, was perfecily
and it might be full as well that the sumo ',rioted
by his Majesty should he inserted in the GOVIIt.
without the ceremony of coming slows, to that
House to propose them. There titre s great owns—
her of useless officers still retained. The Noble
Lord here instanced the Grciim of the Stole, whirls
his Majesty whets Itegeot had 110 l hail, and whorl,
therefore, bethought could slot be requisite to sup-
port the dignity of the Sovereign, or fist soy other
purpose hut mere-using patronage. Ass to the officers
of the feudal King. such as die Master of the
he raid that when they were estahlished the
onkel' were effectiverand had certain duties to psi -
fauns. The Noble Lord thought shit those woo
segued for the existence of those °Merry now, might
?condi, contend that Isis Majesty. instead of having
the furniture. the luxurious invention of voider.'
times. ought still to have cleats straw for his listi/
mid rushes for his chamber.—(Hear, hear. f-114.1
Lordship here adverted to the Report of the Cont.
1111iire of 11915, for the amount of money secei
slot belungiog to the ordinary revenue of the Civil
List. amounting to seventeen millimit and upward,,
not any part of which had been giunted by
ment. He thought that this was a siring woo. tied
there was some vice its theorignial emicovtouti of Ilse
Civil List, and this vice, lie thought, was the notion'
of sttll pitying the 'whole espensestif the 4.1.11 govern-
ment out of it. 'flee Noble Lord his reprobated
the pritetice of paying the &oilmen:a out of daft rent
Nod.. and the isphcoruin of having such officers as
the Rat-killer of the Palace paid out of the *ague
fund with the Sovereign. Against the motion of tut
Hatboro! Learned Prieto!, on a former occasion, lie
Hobert' hut two arguments. or rather be would ,ape
two pliritsee, for they could out lie called or,•;istneuts.
There were." Stipendiary King," and " Insulated
King." As for the first, it was • very lit argument
fur the lime of Charles the Second. but gra. a vtry
strange objection, at the present clay. Frosts the
paper which Ministers had hid upon the table, at
appeured that the exceedisigs of the Civil List hail
been mainly occasioned, not by any extravagance in
the Royal Household, but in expenses to foreign
Alinimerr, amongst which he obsei bed one to the
Nliiiister of Ferdinand VII. on the occasion of los
rertor•ition. lie would ask diet.) whether it cool.'
not he ugo %Idlest' to the Croon to {hire such
charges separated Amu the expense* a the It-).11
I lutist:hold ? As to the " insulated King." he tl 1111 l gist
the *rphl111(111 or 11111141411011 would hr l•etieticisl
rather than datigerous, for the irrupt ssolrut watts:ice
of politic., even Cubbett himself. sores r mixed up his
shocks on the Kingly office with his animailversiotis
on the Ministers. The Alittisi era indeedi,lsa}'sdr-
I sited a lwii in waist of .oppoit Ihraesrlvi') that
the people would rally mood the thiolie, wail
then they made sure of that sitppoit which
then. measures slid not deserve. It most be it
benefit to the Crown to have it separated, fur it
would hardly he believed by a comma imoser. it
lookisic oolong the item, of 11w Secret Service
Money (that beloved and popular branch of the
expettilitutt), he should God that Cistli.s. Oliver,
and Edwards. were to be paid its protect the Croon
(rum utspopularity, and to give it a splesolour
winch it did not of dwelt possess. 'fire Noble Lord
dims adverted louse Chief Jeatice of Cheater sitheig
iu that House. solely empheyed hoot day to deny