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THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY.

The Esti of LAUDF.RDALE raid, that of the va.
nous accounts for which he has .ral, relating to
the issues of Bonk note, prices of bullion, &c.
some had been laid on the table, and others nut.
He was desirous that all of them should be laid
before the House. as thence only cool(' their Lord-
ships lie prepared to form a correct decision upon
the subject. to which he should shortly have to
direct their attention. Ile had intended to address
them wt the subject on 'Tuesday next, but that, be
understood, Might be found incotivement, and he
should, tnerrlcre, po►tpone it until Thursday. The
importance of the subject kid been considerably
enhanced, in corawqrarrice of certain propositiours
which had been recently made by one of his Ma-
jesty's Ministers in another place. Oue of those
was, that the restriction on cash loayinent by the
Brisk of England should he continued for another
year, sod another related to the issues of country
bookers, and cars t.tiltordril on principles Sillol/11 Sub-
versive of the s)stein of Woking that had been
hitherto pursued in this country. Ile should en-
deavour, 1111 the proper occasion, to prove to their
Lordships that there was no question that inure re-
quired the most anxious attention of Parliament
than that relating to the currency of the country.
He. however, for the present, should merely give
notice, that he could, oil Thursday next, move for
the appointment of a Committer, to inquire into
the state of the currency of the country.—On the
ticition of the Noble Earl, the Lords were ordered
to be summoned.

COUPTt or JUSTICE.
The Marquis of Ls.rrnuwN row in pursuance
of his notice, to wove sici Address to his Royal
Highness the Prince Regent, that there should be
laid on the table cf the House, copies of the Re-
ports of the Cornaniss•iouris appointed to iuquire
Into the Fees of Courts of Justice in Euglaud,
behind. and Scotland. Ile conceived that their
Lordships, cmistitiating as they did, the highest
Court of Record in the empire, Use first in dig-
nity and the 144 in resort, should particularly
make themselves acquainted with every circurii-
swore conuecied with the usher Cows, and shell
aborts as had been detected by the labours of the
Cowinitssioners whom it lepl pit-used the Crown
to appoint. 'Phis seemed so briletitting to them,
duet lie COlll4l unlielinde 110 opposition to loos
41101100; but iii Colitseipienee of whutlil bees'
brought to light by the t.:oiliiiibolotierti at least
one ;sort of the kiiigdoen, lie eon. cited arrilßC re-
marks necessary. r 4011004 ewild be further from
his iiitention than to cast soy imputation upon the
high chaiiieters of the iudrvidusle who presided in
the several Coasts ; his sole desire Was to 'mint Out
how fiery severely the respective sitittor have suffeterd
from the gross, rad hitherto tfocheeked extortion of
tine Officers itoldoig !Alves in the Court. of Justice.
Ile *boob!, therefore, suggest Iwo or three principal
fair the 'store Its aticoliir melte of their Lord-

ships in pee-tie:Met these lie ourts whets they
be preiented. Flr ietserreil, that there were iii
persona Mare helrelesv, nor, who ni tie I:attic:oho ly•
merited help., liont those it Ito. he rhapa, ttuh to fa silt
of their own, were reduced to the steces.ity of os-
sertiveg or defelidisig ilet-er rights in a Court ter
Law, and vet, It so happened, that 'such were
lttmformly
the vecterna of the sXtartion of offi-
mile and clerks'. It would he round its the Re-
' ports Malting to the Coors in [reknit!, that
olteratlon had kern m ere in the mode
of proceeding by the Judaea the's:selves, for the
!avowed purpose of iirtonotiii the ends of itteatce.„
that Watt oaf ftwrverteit by the iti7eiliiity of the offi-
cers as a pretent.e for raiaing the fees, and iihetii.g
penalties ma the. suitors; From severed he selected
one insane.'. where a ride lead been matte by the
Court, pertnatiog ti;e sitendasece of Peeler:nor n,-.
stead of out. of the Sex Cloaks, lye altentletterea
had been charged, where not a stogie one Lail
been given. There was another description of
abuses, which wets the pee formatter of dot;e4
by depoity, and where the p'incipet having
been paid be fees, the deploy had also Oracteri
teem as his Mai II newton. AK .1)., it would be found
that a deputy not eierrequently bed delegated hos
office to a clerk, who, in his torn; beard the mentos.
and was paid by their gratitities. It would hr t must
that the eopyitig clerks nad frequently varied their
charges for copies of office paper-, and tl.e,e rank.
lions could he recounted for solely by the eirceini-
stance of their smisetimes nietiing with a solicitor
who might not lie divined to gratify their spirit of
extortion, and chose rather to do leis deity town t:hi
his client.
Another important branch of the abuses
covered in the Courts of Ireland was the
of costs. Li Would be found that uniformly in flee
Superior Comte; there, the taxation of torte re:v
initialed a his some person interested, either directly
or indirectly, in raising theM. The result in tins
particular it would he untiecessetry to state ; but
the coosequeseces flowing generally froth the retire
sport') was, that all eiltpelowit oft law proeialinge
in Ireland had, within no great intiblier or years.
iota-eased nearly 50 per cent, and the evil hat! he-
coma so confirmed, that the Judges; with Ott' best
dispositions, had found it imposiehle tb reltrniet
It one case where the expenses of son* trifling
suit had amounted to anot. the individual hart ap-
plied to the. Court for redress; but the eminent per-
Allllß who presided therein did nut in law conceive
themselves justified in interfering; and although
their sentiments appeared decidedly fievuttetble to
the mpplicuset, -they could only refer him „oenernlly
to his remedy by suit at law. This remedy, lune-
ever, might have proved an equal evil, and the
person thought it mote prudent tb acquiesoe in the
injury.
Upon ant other branch he thought it right to
observe, aa it was in adme degree connected with
Acts of Parliament that had received their Lord-
eleips' approbation. Ott this point he anticipated the
concurrence and support of the Noble Lord on the
Woolsack, no less on account of the intrinfic im-
portance of the subject. than front some ohverves-
tims be had occasionally heard expressed by the.
Noble and Learned Lord. He alluded to the
extreme +Seventy that resulted froth imposing
high stump duty on law proceedinas. Ile should
not then inquire respecting the original propriety
of imposing such hue*, nor how far it might be
proper et present to repeal therti-2but ens att on
very distant time it might be expected that it
would he for Parliaidetit to inquire into the pro-
priety of taking off voter part of the burdens of the
country, it might then be d subject of consident-
'ion whether these taxes ought not be diminished.
In great public emergencies it might he instill:title
to resider even ;sublet, distress avatlable to the 'soh-
lie seek*, and such he nilist ever consider the
principle of such taxes ; hut alien the circum-
stances that rendered them necessary had to
exist, they should terminate also. This typression,
however, had been, by the ingettnity of officers, car-
ried to greater feeigilis than hail been intruded by
the Legislature. The fees had been thereby ir-
creased fj per cent. and in one case Aisife.4 n, the
Report, where GIL was the amount accreting to the
revenue, the sum of 4991. was clu,r;Pal ill fees by
officers. He stated, that in a Court in Ireland,
where almost all the assurances of private prove; iv
were made, where the tined and recoveries, and I,llt
other records dr were tb secure the greater pint
the private property of the country iniAlet to have
been preserved, it bad been di-covered, that, by the
scandalous negligenee of triune ogict rs, these re-
cords either could not be found its nelely instances;
or had been ahem(' in such a manner as to threaten
very general iterotevenience. lie wok
impute to the Ministers of the Crown in
any neglect in not takteig advantage of the valuable
suggestions contained in the Reptetv, hat it ceo:
tautly would be tiatisfactoro to learn Whether saucy
inerouses hail been, or would be taken oar theen, to
promote the ends of justice. lie shank] content
himself for the present with moving
a That an bumble Address be preseest+4 to Ista llovst
Highness the Prlime Regent, prays's; that he would 1.,,
graciously pleam it to give orders [bat Copies of the iteps: t•
the Commissioners appointed no inquire into the s
in the Courts of Justice its Etirtinet, Seittfind, sad !relate!,
be laid upon the lathe of the Hoerr."
The Earl of LIVERPOOL laid; be did not reset..
oppese the Motion of the Noble /few rpm, wine..
on the contrary, had !UV moll cortli.ll s•upPor's
it was fit that the House shoals, 1,04,q41i its is ts.—
CRlar way, every information cotenteled with th•-
Court, of Justice in the empire. He had wnle
great pleasure heard the Noble Lord 'level/den sin-
intention ofireflecting upon ilie:Conets of Justice.
The facts also he had stated, it Height he obsersed.
referred neither to England or Scoshertd, but we. e
comic:tett solely with the aillninistratiors of J mob
iu Ireland. Its the opium's all girt 5,111,,. 1111 1.1.11,0 r
what political sentiments they stsgietetvertmereoese;
rt
conduct of the Co-minima ;
head Kern
emplary. 'fiery had entered into every Orvieto-
stance, no matter whom it noiselts ins/o'er, and let.l
loYertigared every brativll of the velar system.

favour, fear, or affection. Tour Reports
had already fume from them, and others were to a
state of forwardness. Of these, one referred to the
'J igh Cintrt of Chancery, which it was thought
proper lieture to refer In the Executive
of Ireland, in the eminent individual who holds
the office of Lord Chancellor, ud to the Mutter

ofthe tint country, who lase suggest.
cd some lanais either *of attention or amend.
owed. Another refereed 'to 'the office of Clerk
of the )'lees of the Eisfcluttuer, but the Nous(
Were aware of the Moto 'Of that 'deice at pre.
cent. A cleciiivi bed beeis 'bbtained in Ireland,
lint on appeal bed since Feels 'laid tkicnre 'their
I.ord,iiiirs, sod until the setininatioso 'ttf the affair
no satisfactory opinion could be given respecting it.
In the mean time an Act .4 Parlismeet heal bees
pivoted. by which the profits were inspolidled, sue
sio further salary was allowed than whitt was coo-
pidered a fair remuneration for the discharge of the •
duties, mud no depoty was suffered. A third Its.
'port referred to the Court of Error. I!efelt %het
nothing would be wanting on the poet of Govern.
meat, to curry into effect the suggestion contained
lit each, and to gratify by every means in eiiir
power, the people of Irelsod, by evincing the
closest ottraitson to their interests.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE alluded to the Re-
ports respecting the Courts of Justice in that pert
..f the kingdom with which he was more portico.
lady connected, end expressed • hope that what
be hid beard wee not true, namely, that sonic of
the offices which, had been represented its the Re-
ports es useless, and fit to be abolished, had lately
been disposed of anew by the Ministers of the
Crown.—/Heir, hear.) —He hoped that the Com-
missioner., who were in themselves a hairy expense
to the public, should not be continued longer the s
their duties required, for if such were allowed, the
Commission would become as great w job as any
of those which it was the means of detecting.
The question was then put, whets the Address
was carried without opposition.
The House adjourned to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY, Aran 10.

aMlm•

Mr. long fdstest preseis from the Priestess
sd lasadoo, praying the Haase to impair* Into the met-
meats of the Copyright Let, and grant relief from the se-
verity sif them —Read, and ordered so lie on the table.
Admiral FRANK presented • Petition from she Cotton
Rlrraw.rs of Glnsgow, prayist the House to pass the Rill for
reenlatisig the hours of Ilboar is spinals' cotton factories.
—Read, and ordered to lie on the table.

Cfn-roN.SPINNIICG FACTORIES.
Sir H. Pm. (.resented • Petition from all the
cotton-spinaing factories of Stockport, in favour of
the Cutouts Factory Bill. The Petition was en-
titled to great attention, because it come from per-
eons well mcqinisited with the facts in which they
desired alteration. It would chew, that the nuts-
tors themselves were Petitioners at the bar of the
House in favour of their labourers. It was signed
by resell master manufacturers, the opinion of one
e 4 shots' ought to receive the greatest consider*.
*ion; unit of the rest lie was persuaded, that if
'they believed the measum he had brought forward
would semi to nny thing injurious to the trade,
they would be the last to petition for it. It was,
moreover, signed by thirteen resident clergymen,
nho had, therefore, an opportunity of knowing
the condition of the objects of it ; and by not less
then eight medical gentlemen. lie thought the
Petition seas of the lint consequence, in *hewing
the necessity of the measure lie wished to have
adopted.—'flee Petition was then read, it pur-
ported to be from the labourers above sixteen
years of age employed in the cotton-spinisiug
ractnries of Stockport, and others of that town,,
and stated in substance, that under the existing
segulatioiss, sorLmen were over-laboured, over-
lusted, and subject to oppressive inconveniencies ;
that the pertmail experience of most of the pen-
tisnwrs spewed how injurious the system was to the
constitution ; preyed that a shorter period of la-
bour might be established ; and added, that the
Petitioners had iso expectation of relief, hut from
list wisdom and liberality of Peril:einem—such was
she selfish conduct pursued, cud narrow principles
acted on, by mouse of the masters.
Sir J. Gamut% said, the Petition did not de-
ser‘e any attention Gum the Home. It was signed
lhy a set of discontented, starving, good-for-
nothing am ktnci.; he spoke from Isis own know-
ledge, fur lie had biro among them, and knew them,
and seen thesis. The !loon would be wrong to adopt
the sentiments ul such Petitions ; they should well
consider before they proceeded on the dangerous
principle of restraining free labour. 11 free labour
had been restrained when lie was a boy, he should
never have bad the honour of possessing a seat in
that House.

Mr. CURITEN 'Ail, he was averse from granting
the prayer of the Petition. The Petitioners asked
that their time of labour might be reduced to ten
hours and a half: if that was conceded, the next
prayer would be that it might be brought down.to
Moe. The House, too, should take warning that
if the principle were nice adopted in the case of
the cotton-spinners. there was net a trade in the
kingdom but would desire the same interference
and the same redaction. lle thought an alteration
was arisisalile, but he verily believed it would
come at no great distance trout the 'parties interest-
ed themselves : lie believed the masters, if left to
themsnlver, would shortly reduce the limits to
twelve.

Sir R. Peri. said. that the diameter of the Pe.
tithmers was eery different from that "trimmed
In the Hum Alt•tubrr who spoke last but 0111'...".
ilistiy Of them were of great respectability, eiskaged
is* the trade tin unwires—many of them professional
gentlemen. The cesteinty of their opinion was de.
tired from long experience. He was glad to hear
811 'alma ledgmesit frosts the Holt. Member who
had just %at slows* of the expediency of alteration,
and that the hours of work bad been tainted to au
extreuselength.

that the system of
Air. DUTTAIWONTH
ilwribaus lah .ur of working people 14 or ls hours
a day, through the whole of the north of England,
was tantalum, and had there ',reduced a general
feeling against it, the inhabitants being generally
appteheiniire it would lead to the production of a
%lege' it rate race.
Mr. FINLAY knew perfectly well there were
t its connected with, and eri.itig from, all maim-
fintureeitt was, that they coatied labourers to

SURGEONS IN IRELAND.

Mr. PEEL. presented a Petition from the Royal
College of Surgeons iu Ireland against the Sur-
gery Regulation Bill. They complained that the
Bill gave liberty to all who had obtained a license
in an English or Scotch College, to practise, and
to insist un the right of entering into consultation
in every part of the empire, while to the obtaining
such license an oral examination only was twee.-
sarywhereas, its Ireland, by thn•ir charter, the
College was debarred f conferring • license
but after an apprenticeship of five years. This in-
equality was • grievance to them ; they deemed it
nut reasonable that licentiates of the former Col-
leges should be entitled by the ititended law to
every advantage they were possessed of, with so
much len previous preparation and expense. They.
did not, however, wish to enlarge the grievance, or
extend it to others; what theyi wanted was, that
they should be put on the same looting with men of
the saute profession in the other parts of the em-
pire, and would be contented with► an alteration in
their own charter ; they, however, submitted, that
an oral examination alone was insufficient to give
the public an assurance of the competency •f per-
sons to enter on so difficult and responsible a pro-
fession.

Sir J. NEWPORT said, the Petition was most ere•
difable to the parties from whom it came ; it was
not at all in the spirit of monopoly...they wily
wanted an equalization of qualification and of pri-
vileges.

Mr. PEEL said, that, from the wont in England
and Scotland of ■ rule similar to that in Ireland,
for granting licenses, they were in the former coon•
tries frequently conferred on candidates after in-
adequate preparation, and comparatively short
time, sosliort lie understood as 18 months.

.......
The Petition was read, and ordered to lie on the
toble.

Mr. EGERTON presented w Petition from the
Salt Manufacturers of Bristol, praying an aliena-
tion M the Salt [Am.—Read, and ordered to be
referred to elle Committee on the Salt Lam,.

Mr. C. BAaCLAY presented a Petition from the
Churchwardens and Overseers of the Poor of the
parish of St. Botclph, against certain clauses in the
Paged Laws Amendment Bill ; another from the
parish of St. Saviour's to the same effect ; and a
third from the Churchwardens of a pa►ish in Sur-
rey against the Parish Vestries B►ll.—Bead, and
ordered to he on the table.
The Committee on the Steam-boats Bill was
postponed till Monday next.
The second reading of the Purchase of Game
Bill was postponed till this day week.
The second reading of the Copyright Bill, and
the further comideration of the Report on the Cot.

•
too many home, but that was not confined to the het Factories-Lill, were severally pestpened to tlir
cottou-spinning; soother was, the eispioying of same day.
children at too early an age, bet neither was that Mr. Sr:tines-a Bottalst. said, that the Wilier
peddler. It bad been twined before the. Com. consideration of the Poor Laws Amendment Bill
mittee of Inquiry on the Cotton-spinning Factories, stood iimong the Orders of the night. but as sun-
that children hod been employed at a much earlier onerous amendments had been made, he would
age in the cotton-weaving trade, and in the pot. move that it he recommitted.
aeries. The lion. Barorwt wished to confine the General Tnortetoe wished a maximum were
(operation of the principle to the cotton spinning; established which would not be exceeded in the as-
but once CASIJI.I.IIIIII, it was impossible. The sesemenis.
grievances were far lighter than in the weaving Mr. S. BOURNE raid, it probably would.
branch ; the unfortunate weavers were compelled to On the .SPEAKER'II leaving the Chair,
overwork themselves iw a snitch greater degree. Mr. STURGF:S BOURNE Arid, that the Gill, ns
' from the inability to maintain otherwise their wives I amended, ought to lie printed. which would resider
and families. Our whole system meat he altered it better sinderetood.
before we could, with safety. alter the hoed of la. I Alderman Wools said, lie wished to propose
haat. The masters who had signed the Petitiois, some new clauses.
might diminish the hours in their own concerns to i Mr. S. Botinse said, they might be proposed
what ditent they pleased. He accused the Right after the Bill was printed.
Hon. Baronet who originated the measure, of en- The Bill then passed through the Committee,
tering into it from principles of humanity alone, was tottered to he printed, the Report brought up,
without regarding the great ones of national policy and ordered for further consideration ots Monday
and interest. Convinced that the restriction of free next.
taint* weeild entail poverty and misery on the Pe- Sir CHARLES Illoeca observed that Monday was
titiouers themselves, he felt bound to oppose the too early a (ley.
Bill. whenever it would be again discussed. The Perish Vestry Bill was then retammitted,
passed through the Committee, the Report brought
Mr. W. Weals did not approve of trenching on
the priesciple of free tabour; but lie thought the I rap, ordered for further consideration on Monday
plinciple did not apply to children of such tender next, and to he printed as amended.
year'', is appeared to be commonly employed in WAR IN INDIA.
cottowspi 0000 ing factorial. He would maintain that Mr. HOWARTH rose to ask for information from
it lii ronformable to the great principles on which Geistlensen who sat opposite mu a Very important
!Ivey iteight to act, to take tip the proteetinh of such subject. He alluded to the hostilities said in hr re-
of thige who 'COW not help themselves. They commenced in India. In a letter that had lately
had sinfieans in their owls power to prochre au elle. appeared from that couutry it was stated, that the
viation of their grievaisees ; they were in worse Peishea loud taken up arms against the Company's
ci!•cuttestances than bound apprentices. The letter, troops—that a Muhratta force or 40.000 men had
1, if over-worked, might lay their ease, in order to made an attack on about 4,000 or the Company's
redrew, Ltefore a magistrate. It having been MIX'. I subsidiary forces—that they had repulsed the et-
ad that childrett *ere generally tasked beyond whet I tack, with the lon, however, of some officers and
their health end Strength would allow, this made i a severe ol sughter—that the Company's troops,
out a fair case for the interference of the Honer. I bein,g a few days afterwards reinforced, in turn at.
The Petition *as ordered to lie on the table. I tacked the Peishwa, defeated him, took possession
It/.WARDS FOR GONVIctIoN. of hie end drove him into the interior of his
territories—that two officers of nor forces having
Mr. LITTLET4iN presented a Petition from the
fallen into his hands had beets executed. such
High Sheriff end Greed Jery of the county of Sod-
Ind, praying that the /louse would take into its t cases it was usual to take the earliest opportunity of
laying authentic information before the House, and
emssideratims the present eysteM of giv;rog statutory
communicating it to the public. For this reasuis lie
rewards for the coaictiosi of offenders, the abuses
implied to know whether the statements were found-
it had given rise to, and would provide a remedy.
ed. iii order to relieve the suspense wider which
'The Hon. Member sushi; he Was sure the Petition-
the hiends and relations of the forces in that part
ars would not proceed on light grounds or trivial
of the world laboured under. If the frets were AM
Seca rrences. To be consinced of the good grounds
stated, they inspired him with considerable alarm—
on which their Petition rested, one need but look
iuto our laws, or hear an uccousit of the conduct of was he to consider they were ?
our police officers. Ile hoped, however, the evil Mr. CANNING said, it was undoubtedly true the
was not quite so great es usually represented. lit Peishwa had commenced war—true that in two
his own npiniou, it would he injedicions to abolish actions the British forces had hail the advantage;
the whole system ; he would rather see it modified, but the Government was not in possession of such
by leaving the propriety of greeting rewards to the returns as they would be authorised in making
discretion of the trying Judge.—Read, ordered to public. While ray doubt (as some dud) remained on
lie on the table, and be printed. the subject, it would be wrong in the Government
to satictiois any account. The Hon. Gentlemen
Mr. Alderman Wont) presented a Petition from
ksie*
the Free Waterinen plying at the different bridges
the g better than he did, that from that part of
lobe iorivate intlligence frequetitle t
oo
ipped
of the Metropolis, ageism the Bill for building a
the public. Ate far iets he knew, no life of an Eng-
Bridge at Itothethithe.—Read, and ordered to lie
hell officer was lost in action, a few (we believe
on the table.
The
same mend,er
presented (as
we
„to
col. 'levee) had been wounded. It was true that two
had Janet', not in the conflicts. The intelligence
col-
lect) seven Petitions from Ashton-under-Line,
rested one lwi a date ; aske
Birmingham, and other place'', for Parliamentary
did pre on
believeetter the lettther'out he would sawereyhe he disl. d
Reform.— Read, and.orderett to lie on the table.
The Honourable Member compleisted of the delay
A Petition was presented from the Ministers andi making a communication to the House, but lie
Clearchwartleiss of the perish of Pancras Against ,vas well aware that emmitunicatisins respecting that
the Nodes Poor Bill.—Read, and ordered to lie I part of the empire were usually very slow its being
ou the table•
made, and ouly mad. on partidilar occasions.
A Petition was presented by the Right Hon. G. However, if the Hon. Member would femme a
CANNING, from an individual (whose moue we lion to obtain such information as the Govern-
could tint hear), against any alteration in the Con- meet mold lay before the house, he would toe
veyencing Law,.. 11101 t ready to bring it forward, end to assist its
shaping the motion, so as best to attain it. object.
Howatern said lie would avail himself of
the valuable assistance of the Right Hoe. Cen-
fleet JII.
A Member, whose name we rout(' rot ascertain,
agreed that the Latins of India did not receive that
attention in the House they were entitled tp. Ne
thanked the Ilion. Mentlr'r who had introduced
the subject berme the House.
Mr. BROUGHAM rooted fur some papers, whose
title we could not learn, which were ordered.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Lord A. HAMILTON was fully enure of the dif-
ficulty of introducing a motion such es lie had
given notice of. He would sword himself from
the danger of sayiug any thing hurtful to the
feelings of iiidividuals—but lie %sus prepared
to state such a case as would chew a breach
had been committed on the iniiileges of the
House, and that would convince the House
there were grounds for its interference. 'floe
independence of Parliament was the source of ell
our Ironer and greatness—to maintain that was Ins
object—but wliatever might be the result of his
motion, lie hoped it would appear that he was not
actuated by any but public motives. The charge
he had to make was that of a private contract for
the purchase of a seat. He Wai perfectly aware of
the disagreeable nature of such a charge ; but he
thought it due to the county lie had the hottour
to represent. and in which the fact happened, to
bring the matter before the House. That the
House might fully understand the case, he must
premise. that about a year and a half ago Sir
Alexander Cochrane had commenced canvassing
the County of Lanark—that wince that time the
contest had continued between him and himself—
that the whole influence of every dependant and
partisan of the Government had been exerted against
himself. The continuance of it so long had irritated
in a high degree the friends of each partv.• ;le did
not intend to reflect on the conduct of his oppo.
edits; but lie could not forbear 'growing that an
unfair and improper hostility lied been exercised
against him. He had cominneicated his intention
to the Noble Lord Horsiest whom his charge was di.
reefed, Lord Douglar. He hind no hesitation ito as-
serting, that sonie one was guilty of a breach of
privilege, who it was, would hereafter better appear.
The circumstances of the case were such that it
would be improper in the extreme to pass it o'er,
and it was impossible to investigate them in any
other way. The case was this letter he held
isi his hand had been written by Thos. Ferguson,
VII under-rector of the Noble Lord alluded to. He
must be sionisrelly supposed attached to the interest
of Isis master. and of his master's friend; Sir Alec.
Cothrinie. He hod already apprised the Noble

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.ord of his intention to firing fartrieti. flue moron;
mid had received an 1111b111 slowing a knowledge of
the transaction in Very ,ponersi terms, art general,
that all hi. issertiero% miglo„ he founded, without
contradicting the inference, that tbe.letter had been
written under hit Lordship's authority. He would
read the letter, which lie conceived sowritten. The
letter itself would shew lie had brought no iinputa-
tion half so strong as itself. In whist lie bad said,
lie had endeavoured to torten the feeling« excited
in him by the Noble bird'. ativirer. " Dear Sir"—
it was addressed to William I)ykee, Esq. a free-
holder of the county of Lanark, and the purport—
( Rend, rend I)
" According to soar Admire, 1 at length commnairated to
laird Douglas the proposition fur procuring a ignition for
your young friend, Mr. Dykes. lam authorised to say,
,Lae lie will proenre an eligible one, on condition that yon
will support his interest on the next general election. As
you are independent of the Hamilton intervit.l would ad.
rise you to embrace this offer, if you have, made nu promise
to them. Yon have been ill used. At Glasgow ill tell lon
all about the matter. Sir Alexander Cochrane is not at
borne, or 1 would cosisidt hilt. Have the goodness not to
mention this till the whole shall be arranged.—(oa cries of
Dar, flee r)—Dated 114th May last."
The letter stated, " I am authorised"—mentions
at full length the names or both the candidates—
sari, " Have the goodness not to mention this
till the whole Matter is arranged." Whot was
thee authority, and what the nature of it, he did
not know; but he must believe that the offer
was founded on some sort of authority—at the
same time lie wished to avoid raying a word to
impeach the truth of the Noble Lord'. declerittion.
Either Lord Dangles authorised this letter to be
written, or lie did not ; iii either Case an inquiry
was De( tweary, to get at the individual who had
thus violated the privileges of Parliament, and to
ascertain the real circinnstances of the case. The
proper way would be by calling on Ferguson to
state on what authority he had had so written. If
this individual were summoned to the bar, such an
'nomination might be had as would be satisfactory
in the result to the individuals cmicerued, and
also to the dignity or the House. There was au-
other form of proceeding open, and that was, by
ordering the Lord Advocate of Scotland to prose-
cute the party offending, Against the latter cootie
he (Lord Archibald Hamilton) had en Objec-
tion, which, Oithout disrespect to the individual,
lee would Mention. The Lord Advocate had al-
ready shewn a decided feeling relative to this
election contest, he had manifested a zeal (an
honest one perhaps) for one side of the qnestion,
and against hue (Lord A. Hamilton's) interest.
Under such circomstanees, he mold not exactly
think the Lord Advocate was the fittest person to
conduct a prosectition of the nature of this.—
He would therefore prefer having the inquiry car-
ried on at the bar of that House.—He wee not aware
that lie could adduce any precedent distinctly in
point for the course he Meant to recommend. The
Act of !SOO, commonly called CUMCII'd Act, might
certainly embarrass II particular case, that is, a
case where the answers of the party may expose
him to penalties elsewhere; but here the answers
could have tin such effect, for the offence be-
ing committed iigotinst that House, it were best to
keep then] cognisable there alone. The Noble
Lord concluded by stating, that he bad no per-
sonal feeliugs iu thus shortly bringing the subject
before the House, he merely introduced it on pub-
lic grounds, and in behalf of an independent, un-
bought, mid utibiassed set of freeholder., whose
rights were thus attempted to he invaded, and who
had heretofore returned him freely as their Repre-
sentative without fee or reward. He then moved
that Thomas Ferguson he ordered to attend at
the bar of that House on Tuesday, the 21st of
April. lo thus na 11l ill g the day, the Noble Lord
begged not to be understood as fixing an ioconve.
Mem day—lie would readily accede to the nomi.
nation of one a little more distant if this should
ofilird any convenience to the individual.

tee moo ser4tut ernanderstine.--( Loud criet of
Hear, !ear./-1t was impossible to look at this
matter lightly, after a letter of this kind had been
delivered—it was written by somebody. I do not
say that Lord Douglas (with whom I am ineic.
qitainted) has enthorised 11w writing or transmission
of such e letter—this would he improper in me,
under any circumstance., and itaritelll3riy an mew
the discleinier ee have just hewed; hut a letter is
written by Ferguson.—(Meter, Gear.)—'Phis is
surely s corrupt act, tent eanuint be evasively ever-
Ititiked.—(Hear, heor.j—The Right Hoe. Gentle-
man opposite (Mr. W. Muddle has sat down with-
out suggesting any postponru►ent for further in-
quiry or examination, and hr does tine because. he
says he has the Nittlionty of Lord Douglas to con-
tradict the imputation cast epe) him. To what
does this contradiction, after all, amount ? Tr•
nothing more than that the accused meets (and I
• have no doubt very looped)) the charge with a de-
claration of not guilty, and that,, therefore, the
ConictonEt of tuglaiel ought not to pursue the in-
quiry. was a monstrous doctrine, and in
direct variance with the practice of Parliament.
—( Hear, hear, hear.)—They had acted (lit-
. ferently, in 1779, when the Duke of Chemins
Kid' written e letter to influence an election—they
had acted differently in the affair of the Mavor and
Corporation of Oxford—and they had seed differ-
ently whenever their privileges had been inn mired
topoe.-11lear./—lt has even been the practii e
when complaints were urged utiaccompsisied by a
particle of evidence, to refer them to a Committee
of Privilege. It is alone for the House to consider
and ste who is the guilty person on all allegations
of complaint, and we should totally forget what we
owe to our own dignity if, on complaints of this
description, whoever be the parties leitimise!, we
hesitated for one moment to prosecute the inquii v
to the utmost extent of our cusistitutional power."
—(Lund tries of Hear.) .
The Lout) ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND would, in
the first instance, complain of the variance between
the notice given by tin' Noble Lord opposite and
the motion lie had now beolielit leeward. , The
notice was regarding the interference of a Peer ill
the election of a Member for that Hulse.—/Late,
hear, front the Itioposition ilenehes.)—He begged
leave here to ask the House if the Noble Lord hail
this night adduced any proof of such au inter-
ference as he described from such a quarter?—
On the contrary, his statement of this evening, went
Merely to affect an individual in the employment of
another, said to he a factor of Lord °tingles's,
and yet the Nohle Lord is hitheelf to be charged
with acts, which, if committed at all, were dune
by others of whom he knew nothing. In opposi-
tion to the statement merle; the House had the po-
sitive averment of Lord Douglas; that he knew no-
thing of the matter. The than Whose name was
also mentioned, had retracted his original elate-
ment, and dotted that lie had any authority for
what he had done. It wits clear that they had no
evidence at all to justify an inquiry into the con-
duct of Lord Douglas ; as to Ferguson, the
question was separate and exclusive. And what war
the proceeding called for as against this individual
fie was to be summoned to the bar. Clad the
Noble Lord turned in his mind the questione
he would put Ferguson, when so attending, and
would they be such an, if forced to answer, would
criminate him in another place ? Surely the ends of
justice against such au individual would be best at-
tained by a prosecution ; and frotwithstanding whet
had fallen from theNohleLoM relative to his (the Lord
Advocate's) feelings, he could assure the house of
the etlective steps he would at all tidies the to the
best of his abilities, in furtherance of any prosecu-
tion which they might command him to institute,
be the parties who they may that the ease intalved.
—(Hear.)—To institute such a prosecution would
be not only consonant to the law, but fair and
open, and just towards the individual. But here the
man was called On to tome forward, and perhaps eli-
minate himself without any notice; this surely
was net consonant to the principles of justice or the
percher of Parliament. As to the influence which
the Noble Lord opposite was pleased to insinuate,
that he had exercised in the county of Lanark, he
could assure him that he had not influenced ally
body relative to their votes at the approach-
ing election, and for this reason, that lie had
no influence to exercise in that quarter.-(A leugh.l
If' he had the means, it would be auother questime
for he should most certainly give his support tothe
eullittit Admiral who was opposed to the Noble
Lord opposite, and for whom hr had the most cor-
dial personal attachment.- (Hear.)—He had ...et
to learn that it was disgraceful to oppose the Noble
Lord's re-election. If, indeed, it was, lie believed
it was a disgrace which, he was likely at no distaste-
period to share with the majority of the electors of
Lacark.—(Hear./—The Noble Lord had been
very properly reminded of the active interest maiiie
Tested for his own election by a Noble Duke witty
whom he was connected. lie also knew that *ogee
(commonly called parchment votes) were made for
the occasion to promote his views.—(Hear.)—lle
would repeat that there was nothing in this transaca
tion.to affect Lord Douglas ; and this was the first
moment he had beard a word about Ferguson. If
the House took tip the case of the latter, he thought
It prosecution would be the most direct and effective
proceeding.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, that the speech just deli-
vered by his Right Flom and Learned I. riend
tr-
munded him of another old adage, " that there was
nothing new under the sun."—(A laugh.)—For
in the whole code of the wit-lieges of Parliament,
he could find 110 chewer like that touched upon by
his Learned Friend. Luttrell he admitted, that the
House had certain privileges, but he seemed to
contend fist the Noble Lord (Lord A. tlanithou)
was bound to give a precire and formal notice of
his complaint in the manner ordinary notices were
given. This was a total mistake, for the Nehle
Lord reed not have given one instant's notice; he
might have gone directly up to the tattle with tl,e
letter, and the House would have beeii bowed to
itiquire into the matter of complaint at mice, evil
to give it precedence over every other order or
uu-
tire. His Right Hon. and Learned Friend had
gravely expressed a hope, that the Noble Lord hail
turned its his head the questions he would tisk
Ferguson when brought to the bar. There ass
no doubt that he had. The first would probably
be—•' Did yon write this letter ?" A refusal tit
answer would of course consign the individual
to the custody of the Serjeant-atsArtns. Ills

Mr. WYNN suggested that the lever on which
this complaint was founded should he brought up
to the table, and handed to the Clerk fur the pnr-
pose of being formally read.—This was accordingly
done, and the motion for the attendance of 1110132113
Ferguson w:is put front the Chair.

Mr. W. DuNoas said he should have thought
that after the correspondence which the Noble Lord
opposite had had with Lord Douglas he would have
been satisfied that no further proceedings were ne-
cessary, As this was, however, mifortonately not
the case, and that the Noble Lord was not satisfied,
he yet hoped the House would, when they heard
the coMenunication lie had to make to them. He
was authorised by his Noble Friend, Lord Douglas,
to say, upon his solemn honour, that there was no
foundation directly or indirectly. fur the interference
alluded to having been made with his knowledge
and privity.—(Heur,from the 7'reasury Benches.)—
lie solemnly disclaimed having given any ouch di-
rections, and he further says that the House is ton
generous to doubt the truth of this his unqualified
assertion, and too just to give way to hasty and
groundless suspicions..—(Hear, hear.)—Could the
House suppose the Noble Lord so base as to
pledge Ins honour in thin mariner to an untruth,
and must they not disbelieve him if they admitted
•n inquiry under circumstances now solemnly con-
tradicted ? Having said thus north on the part of
Lord Douglas, he would address himself more
particularly to the Noble Lord who brought for-
ward this motion. There was a good old adage
which lie would do well to remember, it was, that
" he who had glass windows should take care
and not throw the first stone."—(4 laugh./
He was ready to admit, that the purity of election
ought not to be trenched upon for an instant. But
did not the Noble Lord (Hami!too) recollect. that
when he was first returned for the Comity of 11,0-nark,
nark, the influence of s Peer had not been, as was
now charged indirectly. exercised for him. but a
Duke of the first rank—Ohe allusion teas under-
stood io refer to the Mike of Haniiltoni—had di-
rectly oust personally wtitten, arid applied for the
interest of the electors in behalf of the Noble
Lord opposite ?—(Hear, hear. )—A complaint of
this kind did not, therefore, collie with the best
grace from such a quarter.
The Gallery was now about to le: cleared for a
division on the maim', when
Mr. WYNN rose and eddressed the House as
follows It is quite impossible that a complaint
of this nature. which is for the tender of a direct
bribe, and is therefore a most serious ii,v&sion of the
privilege& of this House, can be ova,

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Right ITon. And Learned Friend had letter ask
prime of his reillesgue., who sat near him, the prac-
tice of ties I Inner nu complaints of thisnat ure„ fur lie
really knew nothing of it himself.-544
toss could the lions, get sit the truth unites tht7
Aineed Vies plan of term...ding. over which they
had ■ perfect Control ? Was there ever an attempt
before to thwart this mode of getting at the truth ?
He was certain there was not. How did it happen,
that in the case of a poor printer, who had no Lord
of Pitcliainent to protect him by his authority, the
most sauna:ail process was taken ? If be was
hacked indeed ley authority. and only libelled the
re' Opolltl of men in !sower, it was true, he was safe;
and would not siift'er for a been h of pritilege; but
how did it happen, that, if unprotected, it was never
heretofore attempted to obstruct the exiniination of
such mu individual. by guying that certain Tienr
boils could not he put to him, lest they might affect
himself ? fle had seen within the short period of
being in Parliament three nr four printers
brought op. and the motions were considered as
mere motions of course; but if the present motion
were resisted, nod in this manner, it would render
manifest such a system of inequality and injustice
in the proceedings of that House as 'sold do
more to &spare. degrade, and wildly it in the eye.
of the country, than any act it had me csiMmitted;
would appear so flagrant, that he could not con•
template the posstbility of such a decision as the
Tejection of his Noble Friend's motion. This was
nu light thing, at a moment like this. on the
"VP of general and contested election.. Hik Right
Honourshle and Learned Friend had iudeed
said he had no influence. This was from one
in his station an ingenuous avowal; but there were
others not so circumstanced, end whose unre-
strained influence would overthrow the rights
of the electors in many parts of the counter. And
was this, he would ask, the moment to bold out
such au unbridled latitude?—/Hear.)—The ma
non was, it was true confined to rergeson I but
even that did net preclude, if it should seen, ne-
cessary, MI inquiry into what (if any) load been
done by Lord Douglas. There was iii the letter
prime /title evidence against Ferguson at least; but
suppose the inquiry should branch out. it would he
still competent to embrace others, if they should
hive p irticipated in the offence. 'I he last persons
who should oppose the inquiry were. surely. the
friends of Lord Douglas, who ought to he the
fwemost iu vindicating the honour of the Noble
Lord's character from any participation in the let-
ter, by calling for that public inquiry which above
all things would place the matter ill the clearest
lilit.— (Hear, hear.)

The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND, in expls-
nation, raid he had been totally misrepresented by
his Hon. and Learned Friend. He never entquit to
quarrel with the present motion, because it was dif-
ferent from the notice, but because it fell short of it.

Mr. BRUV II ma would ntmeal to those who heard
what had originally fallen from his Right Hon. and
Learned Friend, to my, whether he had not stated
it correctly.—/ I fear. j

111r.,B;riittesT remarked on the application of
the motion to a private individual, srid not to a
Roble Peer, as was first stated. Ferguson. if the
statement of his conduct be true, had been guilty
of a .high breach of privilege.--/Near.)—The
question was not as it was put by Gentlemen (typo-
whether his conduct should pass unnoticed,
but us to the most suitable mode of action psi the
()cession. There were resources open to the House;
one by prosecution. the other be referring the mat-
ter to the Cuutmittee of Privileges. The Right
Hon. Gentlemis. Abided to the cases of the Bishop
of Worcester and his son, in the year 1703, and
sugge►ted, dist on the present occasion the matter
should be referred to the Countrittee of Privileges.
The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving
us an amendment, that the matter of the complaint
he referred to the Committee of Privileges to coos
sitter and repoit thereon. _ _

After n I«iir worries itl e*planation between Lord
A. HAMILTON and Mr. Batikuat, on the format of
the proposed umendinent,
Mr. A. HAMILTON stated, th it he was not aware
of haring departed front the notice he bad origin-
wily given, its the motion he had this evening pro-
-I,;..ett for the adoption of the House. He had stat-
ed on the former night, that the matter of charge
regarded the interference of a Noble Peer with the
privileges of that House, hut he had never Said that
the matter rested exclusively with this perianage.
Ms charge had been attempted to be rebutted by
en assertion, that at a former period of his (Lord A.
liamiltoit's) life, he had had no objection to aristo
eratical influence, and that in fart it had beets ex-
ercised for hint. To this he would reply, that he
ass not answerable for the ills of others, and that
whatever occurred so far back as 16 yenta ago,
should have been made matter of cousplaint at the
tone, instead of bring now raked up to defend
roller Hos of impropriety. There was, however, a
great difference between the character of the two
axis alluded to. The mere personal request br w-
hen:o;bn of an individual, bore on resemblance to
sort an influence as that of which he stow Com-
iplJitierl, which was palpably corrupt, and went to
destroy the beat rights of the electors.--(Hear.)—
Thi. Lord Advocate had said that he had exercised
no influence; because he had none to tender—th:3
was certinsily a very sufficient reason; he bad also
slinited to the monster in which electors were made
in Scotland, hut he at the same time well knew
thin there was no other mode of contesting a county
fleelion its Scotland but by creating these paper
1'4... Ile bud often informed the House of the
• of repfeseollolooo In that part of the
tinri:c. for it was a Get that a man may have
in laud, and yet be not entitled to a vote.-
IGleam./—The Noble Lord concluded by acceding
to the wnenditlent, which was accordingly put and
Iffire.

()II I! r ~..esticn that the Committee do .it to-

Ilhoirom.

Mr. W.:vs anggested that it was the usual
'muse for tm. Committee to arrange its own tune
Moitsag, which was generally as quick as !leviable
aie order "I the House.
Lord A. II %sit LTON wished In knew whether he
oss atm coissi•lerrd as relieved from the duty of
"Igesting the Committee the course of evidence
they ought t.. t..icc. Ile understood that a Com-
-11111,4 ttee of Pr!, der,: oas appointed early in each
• tun; a wit et member of it, he

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Legged to know *lie -cousse he was bound to take to
follow up the inquiry?
Mt. BATHURST said, that though the Committee
was emanated early it/ each Scission, yet it was
open lu all. Members who thought proper to attend,
"act they had also voices in the proceeding.. The
„Noble Lord's statue may be specifically added to
The Committee.
Sir M. W. Riztt.gY thoUght that the better
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course.
The SIMAIERR said, that though the Committee
eras an. open one, a certain quorum was required,
which must consist of the original kfruibers.
The Committee was then. ordered to sit to-
morrow. • ”1
Mr. TIERNRY °hom h 0 itmMed, tt delay must
Minns getting the tiereswiry evUluace frau Scutlood.
• BANK AFFAIRS.
TIRRNEY would be glad tq mane to some
arrangement with..the Right Hon. detaining,' op.
pesite on the question of the Batik. Was the Bill
on that subject to he read a second Allite on Mon.
day ? It was hie iutratiat to propose a Committee
on Friday next upon this important subject, and
he was Anxious that the second reeding of the Bill
should stand over until that &Y..
The CHANCELLOR of the Excittauat had no
objection to accede to the arrangement of the Rigkt
lion. Gentleman.
Mr. l'itaxilt hoped his motion on Friday, for
the appointment of • Committee, would have prio-
rity, as it would necessarily invite considerable dis-
cussion. He would himself have to trespass on the
House with a great variety of details, and at con-
iiderable length.
Theql6RANcst.t.oa of the el:ctn.cock agreed to
debate the general question on this motion.
Ou the motion of Mr. Tisanes, accounts were
then ordered of the weekly issues of the Batik in
notes and post ntis under the value of 51. from the
3d March (the date of the last return). up to the
7th Alin!, and the aggregate amount optitanding
so far as it can be made up, to the morning of the
filth April.
The Right Hon. Centleinan also moved for
monthly returns of the sums laid out by the Com-
missioners for the reduction of the National Debt,
from the 17th October to the dth February last,
specifying the diminution or increase in the amount
of stock bought up in each month by the Com-
tbiasioners.
The CHANCELLOR of pie EicutQUES eriplained;
that the main amount bought up, to which the
Right Hon. Gentleman alluded, was 1,800.0001.
Mr. Ti RINEY said, that the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman lately calculated on a reduction of 3,000,000/.
—The Returns were ordered.
Mr. BENNETT postPitned until Monday next the
second reading of the Offenders' Conviction Hill,
and also the third reading of the Privately Stealing
8011. He begged td ask, What steps had hien taken
on the subject of the Cominiamon,sent out to in.
quire into the Civil Low of the Island of Guernsey?
He understood a Report had hero transmitted usi
the subject.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied, that such a
Report had been transmitted, but that no decision
was yet made, as the subject at lassie involved a •
variety of considerations.
Mr. CALVICRT presented a Petition from South-
wark for the regulation of Parish Vestries.

SUPPLY. —ORDNANCF. ESTIMATES.
On the snot of Mr. R. WARD, the House re-
solved Itself into h Committee of Supply. to consider
of the Ordnance Estimates. The Right Hon.
Gentleman raid he would detain the House but a
very few minutes in introducing the Ordnionte Es-
timates. A variety of regulations and retrenchineuti
had taken place within the last year in the depart-
ment of the Master-General, stud there was only a
single addition in one particular branch. The
general outline of the Est.ibliahtnertt for the current
year, as compared with the Peace Establishment of
1788. presented only an augmentation of 47,0001.;
w hich, considsTing the extended nature of the present
aeivice was an extremely small addition ; and at once
aheireithe pains that had been taken to make every
possible reduction. He would reserve any exploit's-
limas that may be necessary till they Omni(' be
called for. as the Estimates were read. He con-
eluded by moving. that a suns not exceeding
596,465/. Is. ed. be tbted fur the Chaiges of the
Ordnance Land Service for the current year.
Mr. BERN ETT alluded to the hardships endured
by the officers of the corps of drivers, who had
been. its the late artillery reduction, thrown upon
half-pay ; while others. who had 'tot seen any thing
like the same extent of service. retired on full pay.
The whole stun saved, by the redeciinti of the full
pay of several officers, was but 3,7001.: surely
this ought to be restored. He particularly enume-
rated the case of Captain Humphreys, oue of the
most distinguished officers in the service, as being
peculiarly hard.
Mr. BENSON concurtiof in this description of the
state and services of these officers.

Mr. IVAID admitted the ationoildlls situation iii
which these officers stood, and also the value of
their past services. He explained the manner in
which the feductions were effected in the corps of
drivers, and said that the amount which the regu-
lation suggested by the Hon. Gentleman would
create would be no lees than 51.0001. for the
seventeen years arrest. oil the Irish Establiihmetiti
iiesidea the sum the Hon. Gentleman calculated it
at. 'nisi being • question of finance, was entitled
to serious consideration.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. in reply
to an inquiry from Mr. Benson, respecting the in-
. tention of Government with regard to the Officers
of the companies of artillery drivers (educed since
I the peace, assured the Honourable Member that
I the exception which had been made in favour oh the
1 officers of the four coutpsnies retained out or
twelve upon the conclusion of peace. arose from a
stipulati entered into with Government at the
!line. They were to retire on full pay. The fact
i was, this species of troops were wanted. but it was
cousidered snore desirable to put in the stead of
mere drivers four companies of artillery, which
were about to be reduced, as more efficient
troopt,, expett in the notiorgeinesit of guns.—
IThe other • paiiies had been sit once reduced
+you the 'wiser, without precedent conditions, and
retired oa their half-pay ; however, he Wool satisfied
the Noble Lord at the brad of that department
would not fail to add his twinges% reconintendation
to any jibt c! inns ,stni•lt could be tiede by any of

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the cfricers who imagined limy were aggrieved.
The House might then follow up the application
bit an Address to the Crown. if it should he con-
sidered that such claims were just and satisfactorily
made mit.

Mr. R. WARD recapitulated the statement of
the Right Hon. Gentleman pmciredisig. It
true, the officers of pert of the force reduced hail
no great chalice of returning to the service argils..
This was the natural. effect of the terms upon
which they hied hero Arst.embodied and tiler, re-
duced, there not having beets given a winnow of
any kind to the eight troops originally reduced at.
the pruclemstion or peace.
Mr. Basnerr regretted shit there were other in-
stances of a culpable inuttention to the meritorious
. services ofofficers reduce:el after serving the hest part
of their lives—he .to the corps of Royal
Irish Artillery. several of the officers or whiCh,
after a service of twenty-one years, were turned
adrift onn totally inadequate lialf-pey. and also
renewed the assurance that they never should he
again employed its terrier.
Mr. Benson considered the case of these officers
perfectly imigart. Their ease was one of 'Peculiar
hardship. and lee earnestly hoped his Hon. Friend
*Mild not lose sight or this object, but pleas it
npon,the attention of the Noble Lord at the head of
the Ordnance.

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The Chairman, Mr. BROGDRII, begged the
Committee to recollect that• No motion fur an ad-
ditional grant could now be entertained, without
mowing an Address previously to the Crown.
Mr.-Forties complintented the Government upon
the disposition to economize displayed in the Esti-
mates of the services For the present year ; but con-
sidered the .case of officers, particularly those
who lead distinguished themselves in the glorious
achievement!' of the loot campaign, as eminently
entitled to the grateful recollection of their country,
when compelled by Circumstances they could not
control, to relinquish, much against their inclinidion,
that service which Most have been endeared in them
from the recollection that it hid been the theatre of
their earliest and most felicittuis exertions.
After a few observations from Lord Cocn RAN e,
the cooversation was dropped.—The Resolution
was agreed to.
The several following grants were also put and
ca►ried
21,419 L I7r. 2d. to make good the deficit fur the Land
Ordamme Service Of 11111. •

115,809/. 196. 11d. fur the Ordnance Service of Ireland.
• 1133,408/. fur Allowance to Superannuated Officers, Sick
andWitunded Officers Pension., Stc. fur Great Britain, in
1818.
11,4081. for similar Allowances to Officers of Artillery and
Enttowers in Ireland.
10,1941. 7s. led. for Allowances to Widows not pro-
;ided fur by Parliament.
29,279!. fur Allowances to amperanuided Officers and
Inlowe Pensions connected wia• the Ordnance Service in
Great Britain' for the year 1818.
4,1881. Bs. 3d. to retired Officers on the Ordnance es-
tablishment for Ireland.
4,0001. for repairing the sea walls of Portsmouth sad
Heider Hospital, damaged by the Isic violent storms.
The Report was then brought up, and ordered
to be received on Monday next.
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SANK RESTRICTION CONTINUED.
The Ciusceld.ua of the Eictiagusx brought
tip the Bank Restriction Continuation Aht, which
he swayed should be rend a first lime.
Sir CHARLES MONCE regretted, that the Right
Hon. Gentleman should have, by his self-congra-
tulations on the subject of the prosperity of the
financial system of the country, effectually, for a
time, deceived him—and with hint the country.
'file Right Hon. Gentleman had stated, there had
been a saving effected of 1,000,000/. fee the year,
whereas, upon • reference to the accounts 'nude
out, he could not discover more than 10100,000/.
saved to the country. He ,wished to know whether,
in this saving, the Right Hp's. Gentlemen included
the sum which would be faired, through the oper-
ation of the system of funding, lay the Saving and
other Banks, iu Goverisinent securities.

The CHANCELLOR of the hXclieQuktt should be
Sorry voluntarily to have deceived the Ron. Baronet,
but begged him to he ossified, on a cadre hccurute
reference to the accounts, he wouldolltid himself
mistaken. He could also assure him, that the total
sum saved did not include in it the produce of the
banking establishments alluded to—they formed a
distinct and separate. account altogether.
Sir CHARLES MIONCIII should feel much ratisfac-
tion in this assurance, if he could Hatter himself
there was no reservation which might,hereafter ope.
rate as a drawback to the agreeahle !ntelligence.
The Bill was then read, and ordered to be read
second nine' on Friday next. . •
Mr. GRENFELL could not help Viewing this ter
newel of the Bank Restriction Act, although fiat
loy one year, as the certain precursor of the restrie-
ttrin becoming permanent. As the object of the
Right Hon. Gentleman was confessedly to render
Bank paper the principal currency of the country,
lie once more begged to know, whether it was also
his intention to devise means whereby the public
might derive any part of the enormous profits made
by the Bank upon the transaction of the business
Of the nation.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
rested he must disclaim any such intentimi, as un-
worthy of the character of the House or the coun-
try to originate there. He newer could consent
that the House, or the Oxidic for whom it acted,
should, in contradiction to the dignity of its cha-
racter, participate in the profits arising from the
continuation of the restriction of cash payments by
the Bank.

The CHATICYLLOR of the Excuttivas intro-
duced the Private Bauk Nute Bill, which was reid
a tint time. _ _

Sir Jo nit NEWPORT wished to hear from the
Right Hon. Gentleman, whether it was intended
the second stamp on private Bank notes should bt
alsoaccostipanied by ritiadditional duty. Ile must
soy, from his view of the subject, he feared the
consequences of this Bill wool., be to increase the
power, wealth, and influence of the Bank of Lug-
land, which was already ton considerable.
The CHANCELLOR of the EkCsa,4luna said, the
stamp duty on these notes would still.remaiss the
How the charge was to be defrayed he had
not yet determined. lfe thought it would be as
judicious a way of managing the expense, to vote a
sum from the public money. as an iiideninitication
for the charge thus incurred: thus the hanker
would be empowered to reissue his paper without
any siecessity for ancuroing fresh expenses of

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statitvit an new isske ul noses. Ile, however, did
not pledge himself to ►uch a proposition.
Sir JOHN N meow*. stated, that several bankers
in Ireland had collected considerable rinentitirs of
cash, oU ou understanding that the Milk
al tto renew its cash payments. The marry
thus drawn front the Bonk of Ireland, lir was 'Nippy
to assure the Right lion. Gentleman. whatever he
might have heard to the contrary, still remained in
he country.
Thr CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was happy
to hear he had been misinformed.

Mr. GKENFEI.I, suggested the propriety of tie-
'reducing a clause to regulate the lino oli I.f
stock or property in the funds' to , be ceased to
securities for issues of private Bank paper. • A
hundred pounds in the five per ettits. WaS obvi-
ously more valuable than. a 10(1/. in Etcherpier
bills, yet from what he had just hewed; they were
to he considered equivalent securities. l lips cer-
tainly required reviviem. •
The CH•NCEI.I.OK or the E,CHEQUER,
ad-
mitted that this topic would form a very proper
subject of arrangethent its discussing the Kill in
Committee. •
General THORNTON rose amidst cries or Ques.
lion ! Question !" and the few words he tidelievetei
16 the Howe were perfectly inaudible.
Mr. Alderman ATKINS contended that the,Bank
of &gland had wetithered the storm, lad 'finally
obtained the character • for respectability and
competency which it now enjoyed, principskly
owing to the credit and confidetice reposed iii
it for a certain number of years, when it, from
circumstances, was impossible it could have lined
in specie, or that ito issues or, paper did tint ex-
ceed the co.') in its coffere.; if it might he per-
mitted to compare small things with great, he would
say, a somewhat similar indulgence ought to be•af-
forded to private bankers', and not only tirCe given
them to take up their outstanding notes, but the
subject generally should be treated With that pru-
dent delicacy with whiCh a matter of so fragile ,a
twine as credit should be on all occasions handled,
The Bill was ordered to he read a second time
on Monday se' •glit, and printed.
SURGERY REGIII.ATION mu.
. Mr. COUIITCNAY moved the *rah's rendinr. of
for Sorgety Regulition Bill, lie refrained from
entering into the minute exapituition of the clauses
of the Bill for the preient, althoingh some of them,
he edinitted, contained matter which had excited
considerable apprehension on the pert of the Col-
leges in !rebind. It had been aiSerted lit
trti-
tioiiers to that House, that the object of the Bill
Was to create a monopoly on the part of the College
of Surgeons of London. Nothing could be more
unfounded, except it was contended they reduced
that effect by extacis;tig a contenting power over the
affairs of the prolession. Ito fir as prohibiting men
from clidetigering the lives of his Mejesty's toils.
yin,. through tetcompetency in the profession they
presumed to tamper with. The Bill proposed
to stibject the candidates to an examination
before the College., and cm exhibiting a Comp vtent
knowledge, to tiolinit them to practise. • The expe-
rience and superior improvements of later Stays had
rendered this mode of examination isidiepeentebly
necessitrv, Of, dig merits or the Bill, the House
could hardly be at present *wan., and he would
suggest, that the beat way would ne to allow the
Bill to be read a second time, and afterwards dis-
cosi lta several provisions in a Committee of the
House. ,
Sir CHARLES MONCK hoped the House would
not interfere with a profession met the insulterr or the
Ctirporation of Surgeons of this city, •This Cot-
poretion had an obvious interest in compelling per-
son. professing surgery to take out a diploma in
that College, paying fot the same a certain sum of
money. Now, the Corporation had been accused
of exams g candidates for a diploma its
very slovenly and negligent manner—and were
hot therefore very likely to be competent persons
to superintend the profession throughout the cairn- .
try us well as in London. The regulations might
be good, but he was averse to beginuitie at 'the
Wrong end—the lion. 'Member not sheering that
the country .practitunters were incompetent, or that
the regulatioits had become necessary through
the miscooduct or the profession •geiterefly. Its
?der, it was granting a Bill containing tegulations
Hod restrictions upon a most reopecteble proles-
letti, at the instance of the, parlt. Wiiicu were to
he benefited by the measure sought fur. The
Charter of the Corporation of the College of Sui-
geniis in I.:CtilibUtgli might to art as a IhraCOli to
the House, for the Act having empowered this Col-
lege to raise the fees un a diploma granted Fly the
College, they from time to time raised the fees
on a diploma from 30/. at, which it first stood, to at
last 1501,—(Heur.)— I it flirt, should this Bill pass,
thete was no security to the House or the public
that its any case of caprice or pique, the College
would grant a diploma it all. lie concluded with
movieg, That the Bill be read a second time. this
:nowise. • • • •
Mr: W. DUNDAS' deluded the comlnet or this
tenticislar College, the fees having Only mcreaseel
iii an exact ratio with the expense gone to in the
education of its students, and the advantages to be
derived therefrom.
Mr. ‘VALDF.GRArk recommended the subject to
the most serious 'consideration of the House, as
pregnant with the most Vital consequkcee to sos•
cols. In a late instance, he had known of the•
most imprudent, if not criminal conduct on the
part of N country chemist, who, notwitlistainling
the regular surgeons bad declined the Digerati 44 ••
Complied With the caprice of the pirenti of a child,
and inoculated it with the small pax: The Ouse-
"perigee of which was, a ilisseminieriett of ills dread-
tot disorder, with all itebtniefill and deadly etitiae-
ipienteo. in I populetil diittict. •
Mr. Nut reprobated the Wed r•f legislating
upon a single fact, howeier tespertahle the autho-
rity by wheat' authenticated. The Bill professed
to be one merely to mediae the adeniiet of stu-
drupe to practise ; yet a line or two after it Stated,
without even its having beets attempted to lit peew-
ee'', *, that whereas, owing to the ill.trestaieut and
want of skill in time professicos, enemy patients had
been materially injured, and several destroyed."
Wes this then merely a Bill of regulation, or was
it not rather one of imputation, amid that of the
most alarming and prejudicial
The College of Dublin, as well as oilier bodies, was
inimical to the Bill, though not to its priiiciide.

TT • iv;i4 lUlnliinl r.. 1;... pi ilThlpit the Rd. Itti-l1 -
for if it were sufficient for itperty meretv to eposoir
lieftire it certain liimrd hoot .thet-be sofpposeil sorb
Board would be directly influenced by Unelected
noriiives), in order to procure a licence or idyl
on' payment of u sum of .money, it was to be
fenced• that the preetice vetothl soltilwrely de-
generate into one br • conniderable Hittite. It
was natural to suppose n competition would soon
entered -into between the several bodies also hail
a power to grant 'teepees, for the purpose of pro-
curing the greatest quantity of fees. The
testimonials they granted, the greater would lie
lbter pruAt.: It Would tie evidently to their divine-
taige to. grant its many es tuerelesie,
it uppeered to him, tied unless they had some oilier
teat of ability, beyond a mere diploma, a great
abuse would be generated. On this account he
should• oppose the Bill bring curried into a law.
%Virli respect to Ireland, where, he believed, the
profeesion was most respectably carried on, ho
would not attempt to regulate-it there, without fur-
ther eddence of the necessity of legislative inter
feretice. In 3784, alterations of a beneficial chortle
ter were Made ins.tlte College of Surgeons of Dub-
lin, without which their new Charter would not hive
been granted to them. By those regulations, au appren-
ticeship was rendered necessary, before sit individual entered
till the profession, iusteed of a mere appearance hethre the
sad reeeisitit dipfouto In the Bill now hefore
the House,- there was a chose, which set fdrth, that surgiesl
assistauce was often umewary in practising midwifery—sod,
therefore,. every person ',coiling thatificaneb of the pro
fession, Audit nlso.have a license fur acting as a surgeon
By this means. e double impoyition would be levied horn
persons Reboot as aecomeheare, which appeared to be stsipist
and unnecessary, : The bight How. elentiernan then referrett
to the teenaged charte made by tbe.,College of Surgeons of
Eiliuhurglo, as a conducing porofthat if this Bill were car-
ried into effect, its provsaious would be resorted to as the
mesas of procuring very large profits. An conclusion, lie
observed that the Hou. Gentleman hail proceeded its a most
extraordinary manners be had abandoned his own child
he had pointed out all its defects...and then very inotkstly
caned on the House to take care of it.—!.Q laugh )
Sir J. N rwPORT NNI, that, before persist dna Bill into a
law, they should look, not at what the Colleges slid at per
sent, but to whst„.under its provisions, they were likely to
do. If Story were relieved from all competition-cif a. spirit
of monopoly were suffered to pemail--what would be ohc
event ? A very fair idea of it might be formed, [rout what
was stated with reseect to the College of Edinburgh. If the.
Bill were passed, they would never.wish to time a licentiate
at all. The fee us granting that was small—but they might
charge attest they pleased on a upturns—therefore they
would discourage the one and encourage the ullen.-.('fear,
bear.)—The consequence of this wouldobit, that examination
would imam. become a mere Pores--because those whose duty
it watt An ermine would look only to prullt, and not to die
skill and ability of the applicant.

Mr.COVATENAY said, as the arose grebe House Itin""lf-
ed to he opposed to the measure, be would out attempt Is.
press hear J

Mr. D. GILBERT wall of opinion, that there ought to be
Pottle sell, ilowe proof uf the akill of individualsastting up
in this profession, in order that the public might know
what degree of coulidence ought to be placed In them. thn
this point something ought to be done—bet he was to
greeting the power of examitiation and of exacting fees, iu
consequence, to any Corporate Body. Residence, as in she
Universities, together with certificates of practice,. would
probably ensues the purpose of checking she evil conspleiu.
ed of better thou asty:othee mode.;
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Mr. Bottwat.t. eougratelated the House on the determi-
nation of the Him. Gentleman who brought in this
He stayer saw a mere exceptionable measure. It aught: ro
Weaned the Surgery Game Lei, intended to elseck.poarb.
ere, sad coolie* the,practice to a few persons. By itamiuri.
sinew every indiVidual who wished to set up in the profession
would. lie obliged to go through the gateau( the College,
end pay turnpike for the penalisation. That every,persoe whit
ventured to.drow a tooth should heconse a Member of the
College of Surgeons, %%es one of the most ridiculous prole).
sitiens he ever beard.
. Tim Bill was that. ordered to be read a second time this day
six mood's.:
• CM PLOYIIENT OF THE. POOR-
. Mr. Alderman 11'oins said, is risiag to move for leave to
bring in a Bill, fur the better F.anployment of the Poor, atom
particularly in Ireland, he did mot feel it necessary, altboagli
the subject was of great 'importance, to take up tench fa
the time of the House There were already two Bills ill
existence un this subject, Inis tbry both waisted very eon-
sblerable anseisdniesit. He hoe+ that many individuals
could semi capital to Ireland, to be employed there, if they
were not afraid that they would, smiler certain CirrinigiEncr.,
I!, made liable for Inure thee they had contributed At
renews millions of persons were naemployed in that country,
aril the Bill be should now move for leave to bring in, had
for its object to procure employeseat et cap.tal there, earl,
itidiiidmal being only liable foe the amount employed by
him, which should. be duly registered. Without Girth s,
preface he should move—.
For have to bring in a Bill to promote the employment
of the pout in the fisheries, trade, said usanufactares of
Great issiflOo and Ireland, by regulating sad ercuuragiog
part neradsipp."
The SitilLtll said, it was inconsistent with the forms of
the fliitise• to bring in such a Bill on the moment. A
Measure of this mature most grow out of the resolution of
$ Committee. The Hun. Member mita, therefore, move for
CAinimittee to consider the subject.
Aldermaa Shea moved, ".That this Howie do
✓esolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to con-
sider the bet mesas of promoting the Euiployment of the
Poor," Ise. Sir.
r. Cities vett. did not mean to.otopoie the motion—but
he wished to take the earliestt opportunity of stating to his
lion. Friend what be conceived to be the object of the Hill.
Ile understood that it was meant to 110 away with all the
existing lass of this tountry fur the seenrity of trade snit
manufectaires. He alluded to the Sth of Geo. I. to prevent
the formation of joint-stock compauies. If he mulerstood
his Hon. Friend correctly, the projected was fur the
direct encouregement of jonst.stuelt.companice—to enable

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persons to enter into partoerships; with respect to trade and
inasufacheres, on subscribing certain sums of money, said
relieving them from any liability beylllld be sum which they
subscribed. This. weak! strike at the very root of the trade
and commerce of ibis cautery. Hs knew such a system was
allowed in Ireland, and on the Coutiment, where capital was
extremely limited. But it was so contrary to retry principle
on which• this commercial country bad stied, thae, if such
were the assure of .the measure about to be introduced, be
ihindil feel it his duty to give it his opposition in every stage.
Mi. Alderman Woos) said, the Bill -was net istreded to
have the effect which his Hon. &read supposed. There
were already two Acts on the subject, the 1111111 and 5171 h of
the Kiug. The measure be couniapbsted was, to give great-
!'" security to penmen, sod additkieni.dheility to the trans-
ti.r it capital from this, or othereenseries, to Ireland. The
great capitalist could net be moth affected by the memoir,
wild it would cettitialy meant the lauded proprietors. He
buried, rveu if the asessmemere set used un erre, that it
would he 'suffered to apply to leased.
Mt. Gager/au. said, it the measure were introduced for
the mere purpose of mead* thoisw is Ireland, he would
nut oppose it. But be casetivell- its effect would he to in-
tro.'uce a New law is Begisad. He wished to know, whe-
ther it would not allow sad legalise persons in this country
to deposit, for purposive of trade, a limited capital, and er n-
iter them liable only for .sum awbeeribed! lf that were
the case, hip objeetioa remained sweltered, and he should
oppose the Bill on every opportunity.
Sir J. NEKIPORT hoped, however the measure ought to
1» disposed of, with respect to England, that it would be
entertaised as far as Inland was emicernedi so far as the
two measures alluded to by Ist worthy Alderman bad been
acted oat, they had operated most beseheially for Ireland.
They came recommended to Abe Irish Hoses of Commune
Ly nu muss audierity.. Aar were essetiosed ,sad sup.

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