The National Register.
London, England, 1822-07-28 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER

The King's Bench Bill was read a third time, and passed.
Mi. COURTIAAY presented the rtport or the Gas Wash-
ings' Bill.
Further consideration of the report po,tponed tillkuorrow.

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Mr. S. KCL prkbellt d a 1,,tio(“1 f. I,ll.o.(tAllii of Surrey
and 311dttleacx, prarinA the llottan to take into consider.ation
the diatressea of 11cl:intl. _ _

Mr. 11. GURN FA said, that the Pour Lows ought to be ea-
tentird to Ireland.

Mr. S. RICE trusted that there would be no such extension
of the Poor Laws. Petition ordtred to be printed.
LICINsING SYSTEM.. -OH the ite.dion that the Lords'
Amendments to the Licensing Bill ht. agreed to,
Mr.(:. BENNET eapreased hi, regret at the anirridments of
their lordships; then made the bill worse than what it was be-
fore.— Aniefiditients agreed to.
The punislimeut by Bard Labour Bill was read a third time,
and passed.
The report of the Ty the Leasing Bill was presented and
agreed to.
Mr. HUME moved for accounts of loan contracted since
1793, and various other accounts. Also ~f expired annuities,
or those that might have fallen in since 1793, \c.—Ordered.
Mr. 111:3IE prearuted a petition from .Ir. Bradfield, of Par-
liament-street, c al-mercliant, complaining of the present slate
of the coal inett"ere; of the negligence of the present principal
coal meters; and praying for a revision of the laws on the sub-
ject, wider which tin; public now so seierely suffered. 111.
petitioner had preferted changes against some persons, and, as
he represented, lhty bad been proved to the satisfaction of the
Treasury. The bon. member said lie should hereafter more for
returns of the principal coal meters.
Mr. LUSIIINGI'ON thought if there were any ground for
complaint, they should have heard as uwcl, from the coal mer-
chants.

HUME replied, that one or the principal coal meters
b.td been absent in Ireland for a year, as a cornmiss'ouer of in-
quiry into thy state of the resruuo ; now what clwel. ttou!d be
for the public t—Petition ordcred to be printed.
Pt uot: PILLab. SCOn. N I).—Lcad A. HAMILTON lament-
ml his absence yesterday, when the Lord Atßocate brought
forward his motion. He now wished to know whether tl,,re
had been any dismissal of Mr. Ayton, the sl erili. substitute of
Lanarkshire, or whether any hint had been gi%eu that w,,uld
secure 11114 retirement.

Mr. PEEL, said, he had not felt himself called upon to re-
commend the dismissal of such individual.
The house went iuto a committee on the affairs of the late
Queen.
Mr. LUSIIINGTON moved a grant of 6217 f. to make up
the nun of 12,0301. that would have been due to the lute
Queen Caroline.
Mr. HC ME expressed his astonishment at the breach of faith
of which the ministers had been guilts. They held out, if
their case were proved, that her Majesty should then have the
regular outfit, &c.; that juatice bad not been done. The dents
of the late Queen were 31,091 E.; the assets were only 26,00u1.
why did not the government make up sueli deficiency ? 11
was expected that her Majesty was to bare a carriage, &c.
1 lie CILANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that her
Majesty had a liberal allowance, and that the whole quarter
was now proposed to he made out.
Mr. Aldcrmau WOOD said that her Majesty's debts, when
she died, artiounted to only -I, PAIL ; that they were occasioned
by extra demands, which a letter of very hilt authority de-
clared should he paid ; and that had she lived over the quarter,
all the debts would hose been paid.
Mr. 'l'. W ILSON observed, that if the debts were so small
in 'turnout, he thought the Parliament would nut act uuwisely in
defraying them. (Hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECCER understood that
all just demands were to be pair!.
111r.IILME observed that he would produce Lard Liverpool's
letters, stating that such expeoces were to be inenrren, the
house, the carriage, and the like; and he would put it to the
house and the country, whether any one could have expected
such expencer were to lie Suet by the Queen's salary.
Alderman WOOD risked, if :melt were not the intention, why
paeans were sent to sacs min whether the carriai„es, &c. were
worth what were to he charged fur tti,or (Hear.) Resolution
agreed to.
Mr. GOULBURN moved a grant of 33,001. to carry on the
Works at Deuleery, now called George I'.'s Iliu
Agreed to.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT moved 7,2031. for commissioners of
courts of justice; and 20,0001. for African forts. Agreed to.
hard PALMERSTON brought forward the proposed grata
regarding the Opthalmie Hospital, moving that 1,0001 he granted
to Sir W. Adam for four years' attendance to the hospital.
Mr. G. BENS Ef come:Wed that the expenditure for this
optbalmic eatablialtutent had been must improvident ; and that
the optlialmia was vulgarly called Egyptian. Sir W. Adam,
after trying his own plan without effect, was obliged to resort
to the old system of management—the mild, humane, and ra-
tional system of Dr. Vetch, and the practice or lwtJ7. Yet to
that excellent individual they could only get one word of com-
pliment into the report by mere force. A:I the medical autho-
rities who bad exerted themselves, and who might he supposed
to have resisted, were unsttairected. He WAS really to admit
that Sir W. Adam woo entitled to remutteratiou for attendance.
To that he should have no objection. He thought him entitled
to 2,0091. instead of 4,0001. lle concluded with moving to
substitute 2,0001. ins ead of 4,000. . .

The amendment wits negatived without • division. Report
to-niorro%.

he house then went into a committee respecting the printing
of ancient hiatnri.•a.

The CHANCELIAR of the EXCHEQUER brought for-
ward the proposition fur an address to his Majesty. praying
'lilt he would be graciously pleased to order Ilul the ancient
records of the kingdom he printed, and that the house would
make good the expence attending the same.
Alter some conversation the address was speed to.
The house then went into a committee on the Superannuation
Act Amendment Bill.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated the
nature of the bill tonic committee. li,. object wa. to deduct
from the salaries of certain individuate bolding public offices 4
per restage on their salaries, by which a fund wan to he formed
to provide to a certain extent I.r their superannuation, after a
certain period of services, or other ciscumstaneeti obliging them
them to retire. Ttie committee proceeded to discuss the several
elsor.es. On that which provided that salui ie. from :Al. to IOU!.
a year should pay 2 per cent.
CALCRA Ft' objected to bringing the scale below lOUI.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXU11t...411:14 said, he r..:a
ready to adopt this objection of the lion. geol. he had bled 501.
to avoid any objection which alight arise in th., committee. He
wuu.d now propose, that the scale should commence at
Irons I Md. to 4401. to pay 4 per cent.; shore 2UJI• to PAY
1.1. l iie OCAS.' thus aillended
lilt: buyouts' oilier tolilLY*C6 oi tun. lull w ,re, wttr untie cobere

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sation agreed to, and the bill ordered to be reported lo.morro
uther °Mos *ere disiro..od of, nod the house adjourned.

Tlltl.tslA Y. 'LEV 24.
The Orphans' ri.l„. Bill, and the Curor.ers' Bill (Ireland)
were read a third and
were presented fru,' -t the High-
gate Chapel Bill.
A petiiion was presented fiem Hammersmith, complaining
th it the Middlesex Water Works Company did nut pay pour
rates.

3lr. BENNET preaented a petition from Debtors who had
been C JJJJJJ nitwit from the. Bench prison to liorseinonger •
lane jail by the Marshal. The hon. member was confident thu
practice was illegal, and he should bring forward the winder
ques • next session.
Petitions from Brown and another individual were read, and
ordered to be printed.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought in the
10,'00,0001. Exchequer Bills Hill.—Rend a first time.
The Isle of rdau Mateo Hill was ordered to be read a
third time.

The report of the Commercial Credit Bill (Ireland) was
agreed to, and ordered to be read a third lime to-morrow.
Mr. LUSIIINGTON presented the report of the committee
respecting the printing of ancient histories.
Mr. LAWSON took this opportunity to deny what bed been
attributed to him by the ..11orseing lierald, of accusing Mr.
Guthrie of malevolence in his resistance to Sir W. Al!yinit
The report wits incorrect. Ile made this correction, because
the misrepresentation bad given mush pain. Report agreed to
and address ordered.

Mr. GRANT presented a petition from the Grand Juri of
Loath against the Constables' Bill.
The report of the Canada Corm nment and Trade Dill was
tat..it luau further emisideratitni sod ay tett to.—Ordered to be
read 4 t Ir.' time to•otorrow.

EAST 1\1,14 SCUAn TRADE t 7.0 question that
the Gast India Sugar Trade Bill be committed,
Mr. FORBES contended that whatever relief might be in-
tent:el for the West Indies, ought not to be at the expence of
the East Indies. lie complained that the East laths interests
were not sufficiently represent:ft iu that house. Ile coneiuded
with moving that it be an instruction to the company to bate
power to utter that part of the hill which imposed a ditty of I.
ou East India sugar per cwt.
Mr. LISIIINGTLIN said, the greatest anxiety had existed
to adjust interests on this point ; nod that if any part v
had reason to complain of advantage having preponderated, it
aertainly was nut toe East India interest. The goverment was
not indifferent to this question. The instruction was answers-
sary, • W here the qualities of the sugars were the same there
ought to be like Mies. Rethought the act ought to be rm.
newed for anther year.
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Mr. MONEY said, this subject bad been very properly
brought forward. lit (teemed the motion unanswerable. The
objection was to the word" vaivie"—to enact respecting sugars
tithe same value ; and he could not see where could be the
objection to make that cleat in the bill which was avowed to
have been the intentillll of the lover 1111 l ent. This bill would
amount to a prohibition ; if it were intended to prohibit the
importation of East India sugars, it would be more manly to
bring in a bill on the question at time.
Mr. FORBES tsid lie had opposed the bill in all its stages ;
when there were half a dozen members present ; on the second
reading alien there were a dozen present.
The gallery was then partly cleared for a division, but the
oppositio.i to Mr. F.'s motion was withdrawn, and the instruc-
tion was agreed to.
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The bill was then referred to a committee. Report le-
mon oo .

SINKING FUND lII'ME rose to bring
forward the sinking fund resolutions, of which belied repeatedly
given notice. lie denied it to be in the power of noires to
to make out the ad% outages for which Mr. l'att and others had
contended. The public were CloOflUOUb Insets by the transac-
tions enameled with the sinking fund. '1 liry loot. in the hest
place, all the expences of management, and then the redemption
of portions of the debt on worse term, than tho,e on whirl, Abe
debt was mode-acted. Ile had ascertained that during the war
the.:e bad been been an excess of expenditure ut 123,000,0031.
—There was a loss iu tl.c simple tratioactiou of • uniting ninon
amounting to 5,0410,M101.; Mut was 11 distiul lobs to the public.
--f here had also been a great loss by contracting the del*. in
various stuck—a loss to the amount eit 4a,000,1.10J1. Thereby
considerable animal expence, was entailed on the country, an
Om hon. mend). proceeded to prove by various mikulations
respecting the dillerent species of stock. Ile then proceeded
to notice tile produce of the taxes, is Lich produce had been
114,0Ju,0001. while the expenditure was 123.1,000,01.11.1. lit
giving the amount of fates lie omitted the loans. Han big
illustrated his resolutions, which were tairty eight in number,
and were very long, he concluded with 11101,41 g them. The fol-
lowing is the first resolution :
" That the national debt of Crept Britain unredeemed on the
sth of Jan. 1703, was 2:l9,4„ill,tlstl.consietiug or 227.9M1,1401.
of funded, and of 11,31;1M/01. 01 EXChOlitlel Bills, at au annual
charge of 9,203,07 11."
The following are others of his resolutions •—" That the
debt has actually been increased to the dtllo.llll above stated,
of 603,449,h491. at an ntinual charge of 25,312,6701. ; hereby
demonstrating that the sinking fund system was founded in fal-
lacy', and had been 11161111.tillell by delusion.
That, whether the financial system of the country he re-
garded, in reference to the increased burthi:n of 1,11E2871
per annum, occasioned by the commissioners (Attie sinking fund,
in merely purchasing stock tin worse terms than tit which it
was created, &c.

" That, on taking • retrospective view or the result of a
sinking feud, if fivellioll4 per annum are applied fur 10 years,
in the purchase of stock, at the rate of NIL money for every
1018. of 3 per cent. capital, cancelling the stock as it is pur.
chased, it will airord an annual re.uissi:in of taxation to the
amount of 185,1841. and it will redeem in ten years 61,728,3201.
ut three per ceut. capital, (as stated in the parliamentary paper
No. 151 of 18-2) the dividends on which will be 1,841,831/.
affording en tt,;giegate 'emission of tasation annually to that
&alumni, at the es;.iration of ten years, effected at 'he a ;regale
espence of 30,400J/301. of lases ;—but if 3 million► per annum
are employed as a sinking Cued for 10 yea, s, in the purchase of
stuck at the rite of Mi. money fur 1001. of three per lent.
with the dividends accruing thereon, the aggregate sums
will purchase in that time 73, 01,1371. of three per cents. as
stated in the parlia oentary paper lwri,re referred tu), the divi-
dends on which will be a,1141,0131., affording at the espiration
of that time a remission of taxation to that amount, but on relief
whatever, in the in.erval of the 10 'mutt, erected at the aggre-
gate eapeuce of 59,193,0131. of lases.
That by the pieceding resolutice, it is seen, that under the
operadna of • sinking fund afire millions per annum. at com-
pound interest, uo relief whatever from tas:lti •n will be afforded
to the country for ten ye•ra, whilst the inunediate remission of

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