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in at hat tne lame situation, with respect to Surer- ,
mai/fon this subject, as a certaiso meeting hit ISO
great &tenet Nat that House had beets pieced,
b~ his 1101eHte's coufidencial advisers that moruing.
-4/ laud burst of rheeriptg.j—The fact was, that
isoftweionion which the Noble Laid seems
disiudiu-
'edto give to the House, hart been co iiiiii imitated •
to • select assembly of the Miseisiere' friend*, cots-
., sestiog of fifty or Witty gentlemen. He, fur his
pert, always suspected meetisigs of this nature, in
which the Minister in general held a previous re-
hearsal of some measure extremely ullivetiorsable,
asol of whose success lie bud just reasons to drawers
' except care wall taken in marshaltag and allotting
their respective Parts to. each ot has aupperseir.
; Such hail been the 'were of the sueetilig .at Lord
*• Liverpool's house this quirisieg.--(tiertes hears/
Lord C.trei.Eiteenit was mut .were of may thing
•• •unciesstitutluisal or usitieuel in OCCll4lolfilt reeeduts.
or Oslo nature, our couldhe. see soy parliaineutery
mine to pee vent Then).
• Mr. Paafasaol_lll reprints were .true. he
hoped that every iudivitival representative of the
people would be on his guard.
.For hie part he
should More a Cell of the House fur the day on
winch this Message should be Olken illtU cniseider-
f heir, hear. hear.) • . •
Lord CASTLERE•OH—Whether or not these tr.
ports were true would be proved hereafter. who, the
I louse went tido the besmeais at length. He had
• merely pursued the practice (md in mien cases;
and he could assure the House it was !sy 110 maims
his disposition to oppose at Call of the House. if the
• floorsursble Member or his Mess& thought it expe-
dient, or for the public aritatreige.
Bitououeis sew no just reason to be 'tarsi-
,: elder as to departing fronsilie old line of prac.
tice. For -.his- part, 'he should not be one to
stick closely to prterdent. if a great point were
'au .he gaiter& thereby. He could see ire reason
sif Ilse House regarded the Intereets of, its con-
stituents. the loners, feeling of the coniutunity, or
seeany velum un its own character, why it should
not take the question iii such it 'shapers would en-
sure ifs carrying the sense of the country Moog wills
/St. He should, at all events, support the motion
;or the Member for Bristol, with a view to ensure to
. the question the fullest possible attendance. He
. further thought that it would be treceseary to the
Wore complete iurestigation of this question, that
sire House should • be furnished with a full and
Correct eccouut of all sums hitherto grained to
these branches of the Royal Family, from time to
• time.. us also their annual income, whether desired
from rents of Parliament, or as holding offices
civil or
• Mr. filtirutten proposed, that the return or ac-
count suesitioned by the last speaker should also
.the lade such sums of money, grants, or income*.
paid to their Royal Highnesses the Dukes of
Ciaresice, Kent,. Cambridge, and Cumberland.
Lent CaseLeaCaGn stated, that under the pre-
sent circiunstances aro such information could, with
propriety, or in cnufortnity with the practice of the
House, be required.—(Hear.)
i Mr. M. A. TairLoaKnorting what he did Ur!
the present distressed state of the country, could
hot leave iinogiued it possible such ill-judged
vu r should !save berm given by hie Majesty's ems. '
*idealist advisers. Although he respected most of
those involved in this transaction. he could net
but cunsider it a highly objectionable line of cow
duct on the part of Ministers, to collect together
.a number of their friends, for the purpose of
seeing whether they were disposed to support
their projects of voting away large sums of the
public money, in en extravagant and wasteful
ussener. Nu man was more attached to the
/knee of Brunswick ths.o himself, or thought the
interests of the Crown and the people mere in-
tionutely connected ; but he would nevertheless.
under such ciicuenstances, before he voterf, look to
the proportion of burden the people were able to
*stain. He thought this reference the more iseces-
sory fur every walk in that House to make, when it
win recollected the conduct resorted to by his Ma.
jesty'ss Ministers sin some late occasions respecting
tortes, more particularly the Leather Tex.—('Heer,
hear.)—A• tor Isis part, he should look well iuto
rely proposition of such a stature, before he cons
welted to grout one shilling of the people's illusory.
//ear, hear.l
Mr. Cuawrit hoped, before such a proposition
Was discussed es the present, the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman (the Cluillctilef of the. Exchequer) would
colour she House with sale detailed statement of
the probable tapeless, said income of the current
year.
Mr. BR&ND thought it would be no very great
ens cession ois the part of the Noble Lord to grant
the infiernsar.son required by the represeutatives of a
people ipposi whom it was luteuded to draw tor such
extravagant stipplies as those which it had been
who cartel abroad Isis Majesty's Ministers had ex.
peeled.:
Mr. LTTTELTON wished at least to know, wises
flier sissy other members of the Royal pannly were
iiithided its the prospectus of the iutended addi-
tion'sl sets lenserits.
Lord CASTLEREAGH begged leave to decline at
this moment making any further communication
on she subject.
• Mr. BERNETT thought himself entitled to state
what lie had Isterd of the propositi iiiii which had
bnis laid beforea select tiumber of Gentlemen. He
utiderstooil it to have been this—that it was isitend-
eil to give in addition a 19,0n0t. per e us to
bus Royal Highness the Doke of Clarence beyond
his preteut income, also an outfit or 19,0141 t. he-
of 12,000/. to 1101, other
Was this the fact. or
free Else ()munition
observed, that from the
the Noble Lunt on this
that Abuisters had made
coliveried Olt private
' to make to the whole

t no Gentleman pre-
I surely consider' hint-
subject of this kind.—
Member was, it iiteil
t any further inquiries
—lf 110 steresy Was
that sonic of the Crii-
what the amount pro-
was *He emit This
Ilothic lur tiriuortow's

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sifebate on an equal footing with ti fc.l!lemon et
the if itide swirling. Surely this spould be but
fair.*.aifeert kir./ e
omierstood..that the Mike** re-
lated mily to tiro illustrious individual*. He
begged to know either feints the Noble Lord oppo.
site, ur hum the Choir. whether it was consistent
with the practice of .the-Moue, when they received
e Message, einf returned an Address, to go further
in the latter then merely to acknowledge the coal•
aaaa icoliost which had heeo made
Lord CAll'iLialkAOH begged to state, that the
only ground dins ft-fusel at the present moment
to give- the explanation required so earnestly by
Gentlemen opposite, was out to anticipate the
„proper time when it would be his duty m make it
in • due forte.—(Heard—He had only to repeat,
that the present Address pledged the House to
nothing—it would still remain for them to grant
or illet to grant the proposal he should have the
humour to matte.
Mr. Bauousau felt the full force of the loyalty
and litipect mod properly due to the Royal Fa-
mily.. There was one omission in the Address.
which, he thought, there could be uo objection to
r 'apply. One port rif the Address expressed the
satisfaction of the House at the two marriages iu
contemplation, sod pledged itself to take such
measures thereupon as regarded the welfare and
Inippineto of the Royal Familyouid the Succession
to the Throne—bet it did not say omit word relative
to did which was the paramount duty of the Hans.,
he meant, the due regard they were bound to main.
fest for the burdens of the people—(//ear)—and
which must necessarily limit the grants for the use
of the Family on the Throes. To supply the omis-
sion to which he &holed, he would move that the
following words be added to the Address just pro.
posed—" And with a due regard to the burdened
state of the people of this couutry."—(llear.)
On the freyetinii from the Chair, " That these
words be added,"
Lord CASTLERIAOH rose and said, he hoped he

would he pardoned if he thought that uh oae part
•of that House there we►e some individuals who
lied not that due regard to the dignity of the
Crown which became them : to adept an amend-
ment of this kind, would be such a departure from
the usual cuutse of proceeding adopted on an occa-
sion like the present. He again repeated, that the
Address did not pledge the House to oily specific
proceeding; it recognised no particular principle
or pledge, and, if adopted at all, should the carried
An its original shape; he would thert fareoppose the
amendment.

Sir GILBERT HEATRCOTR thought nothing
could be more moderate thais the amendn►ent.—

He confessed he felt not that jny which other Gen-
tlemen did at Royal marriages. because they dif-
fered essentially in their effect from those merle in
private life. by the burdens they imposed on the
people for large establishments for the respective
parties. •In the pres4ot distressed state of the
country, which must be obvious to any body who
walked abroad wish his eyes open. the House
were bound seriously to rapider a subject involving
great increase of expense, before thel imposed an
additional sixpetsre upon the burdens of the pee-
ple.—(Heee.l—He hoped the Address would con-
tain something which coupled the condition of the
country with the other subject.

Mr. TIERNILT mid that the amendment pledged
the Mime to nothing more then the Address.—
(Hear. hear. )411t expreseed on the one part the
attuehment of tbe.House to the Throat.; and on the
other the proper sense of the guardianship intrusted
to then of the puree of the people.—( !leer, hear.)
The House knew more today than they did on ally
former occasion, thiy knew that a private meeting
had been convened by Ministers, end a greet public
question submitted to them this day ; they also
knew, if not ou the first authority no that House, at
lead from oat of the most respectable, • that the
measure so proposed was not thought fit to be en-
tertemed by the graitleinen to whom it had been
submitted, and who, so far as their judgments went,
did not think the measure tit to be brought for-
ward.—(Hear. hear, 44.6..1—Under such circuni-
MIIIIen; the House nintit see the necessity of nut
committing itself one single step beyond the neces-
sity of the case.—(Hear.)—Having discharged its
duty to the Crown under such suspicious eirctiin-
stances, was it too much to ask, on the part of the
people, for the insertion of these additional words ?
(ikes, hear.)

The question being loudly called for, the gal-
lery was cleared, and a division took place, when the
numbers wrre—
For the Amendment
Against it .
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Majority against It 4l-r
The Address way therefore curried iu it. original
shape.

[While strangers were excluded we understood
mule diacussion took place, in which Lord CASTLE
REAMS MU still further pressed fur information re-
lative to the proposstiou he meant to submit, but
he persevered iu declining to give it.J

INCOMESOF THE PRINCES.

On our re.adarisaima to tlw 'gallery are found the
SPEAILEII putting Mr. P. SlETatiEN's motion for
accounts of the total balmiest of 'heir Royal High.
themes the Dukes of Clareitre,
and Cambridge, specifying the awns ariUng to
them from ntilitory or snivel Commissions, Irons
Pensions, Groom from th►e Llrsaus of the Acton.
rally, or any other fund.: or.appuitstnients.
Lord STANLEY vii.htig the name of his Royal
Illicitness the Duke: of Susaex was included us this
motion.

. tlle. P. METHUTN said it would be iniportunt to
a.certain the locoinge reeeited by his Itoyal !licit-
nt.'s the Doke of Caniblidge hum flaunter.—
( I /rte.)
The (NIANCELLVK of the Exciiriativa replied,
that It "Mb I;uveratujelli to call ter
returns from fore4au
Mr. TIERNEY cusuourird in the necessity of oh.
twining tins infortentinell;
Mr. P. Ylta tie thought that every species of
income. held by these Pri'sinisges should,
on au occasion of tlus kibtl, be fnlly rimed to the
Thus'.--(llia./
The CitaNcr.r.e.on. uI flit Etctirizcvn did not
see bow this thforniat,rea tunid ht-hilt thr..ugh the
weal citile,al• emir of aripl)iitr fur .ic.:twilt%. It

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cerla.ohly .could not Lund es thlt mutton wet
worded.
Mr. J. P. GRANT asked, what use there would be
in altering the etre& "of the instiou, if what the
Right Hon. Gent. said was correct—that he knew
no way of getting at these accounts ?—f
Government had not the power of getting at these
accounts, he knew nut who could. Re loop-ed,
however, that some palms wouldbe flake° to procure
the tiei:essony information.
Mr. Remount hoped that the House would
have au opportunity of awertainnig the emoluments
received by his Royal Ilighioess the Duke of Cam-
bridge from his official situation in II mover. He
did not know whether Government could order the-
,production of these eccuunts; bat he knew there
was one personage who could make the return, and
-that woes the individual who applied for an increase
to his income.—/Near, hear./--The House would,
of..course, es they -were bound to do, give' that
which Wall necessary to support the splendour be-
coming the station of the. Royal Family ; but in
forming this estimate, the mems these illustrious
individuals already bad, ought uecessatily to be
taken into accouut.- The greater the sum that shall
appear to arise from Hanover the better, 'when they)
recollected that formerly these don i were le
coalition burden ioitottit.of expense to this country.
It was something &Retells to fled that Hanover was.
likely to alleviate the burdeus of the nation.-...
(Year./
The CmottcaLLos of the EXCHEQUER said,'
that when the qualities. mime regularly before the
House, they coldartheo see what the ouniknot of in-
come was of the lill'eretit brunches of the Royal
Family, and whether any end what additions ought
to be made to it. 0u a former marriage in the
.Royal Family. Mr. Foe, who yielded to no man as
a cosstitatioind guardian of the public purse, coll.
coned in opinion with Mr. Pitt, that certain reve-
nues hot directly held iu this country, ought-soot to
be reckoned upou or inquired into ou such an oc-
casion.

Mr. BROUGHAII—.." 1r Mr. Fox had lived to see
the burdens "Mich have been thrown upon the peo-
ple. it is very possible be would have takeu a very
different view of thesobject."
Theory/outs were then orde►ed.

CALL OF THE HOUSE.
Mr. Paosaaaos was anxious to fix the Call of
the Rouse so ai to enable Members to give a full
andcomplete attendance. He brat thought to tix
Thursday, the 234 instant, but he would crow move
to have the Call fixed for Friday, the 24th lookout.
From the temper with which the mistiest of the No-
ble Lord's proposition had been received, he was
persuaded, that, if pressed in its largest sense, it
would meet a negative in that Ilouse—rHear.)—
But possibly some fair and equttoble compromise
might he made so as to unite the votes of all par.
ties.—(Hear.)—The Call would enable all the
Representatives of the people to state the length
which they would be prepared to go on the present
occasion.—(Hear.)

Theesll'of the House was then fixed for Friday,
the 14th natant.
BANK RESTRICTION.
Mr. J. P. GRANT moved for accounts of the
market price of gold for a series of years op to the.
sth of January last year ; for the amount of the
courses of foreign exchange during the game period ;
for an account of the unsouut of issues in think
note% stud post bills since the year 1797 to the sth
of January, 1818 ; fur a return of the amount of
sovereigns, half vovereigns, and silver coin,, issued
by the Miut cid the Bank in the year 1817, glitch-
lying the particulars of each ; and also for au ac-
count of the Mint price of bullion during the same
period.--The accounts were ordered.
Mr. TIERNEY wished that the Right lion. Gen-
tleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) would
postpone the question of the Bank Revtriction until
Monday next. He also begged to know when the
consolidated accounts for the last quarters including
' the returns from Ireland, would hermitic out. His
object in calling for these accounts would be to
sheet the manner in which the April dividends were
made up. His opinion was, that the debt, instead
of being reduced lien year, was rather increased.
On a former night the Right lion. Gentleman bad
boasted of his having reduced the debt three elths
lions and a half, whereas whets the account~ were
brought forward it would seem that thii,nklaction
only amounted to 1,800.0001. 4. • -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped the
quarter's accounts would moon be ready. He
would say, in explanation of his former statement,
that the sum raised by Exchequer Bills was to
make good the charge on the Coosolidated Fund.
The error in the calculation,between him and the
Right Hon. Gentleman arose from this circum-
stance, that the latter calculated the amount of the:
accounts, which were only brought up to Decem-
ber, as if they were the accounts of the whole year,.
up to the sth of February.
Mr. TIERNEY said the error was not his, but that.
of the Right Mu. Gentleman, who had given in
the eleven mouths accounts as those of the whole
year.
After a few -words in explanation between Mr.
Tierney and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, •
Mr. GREW FELL wished to know whether the un-
derstanding was, that the Bank question stood over
from Friday until Monday next ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER--" Cer-
tainly."
Mr. PELL postponed until Monday next the Com-
mittee on the Irish Abolition Prison Fees Bill.
On the minima of Lord A. HAMILTON.* verbal
intendment was made in the return ordered of the
humber of Commissaries and Commissary Clet ks
apt led in S.cetland in the year 1814.
Sir .Ixnel NlAcsisyrusti said, tart Addresses
had been moved to the Crown in the month of Fe-
bruary, with r view to obtain papers respecting
prosecutions by the Batik, and on other subjecte..s.
The returns had not yet beets wade. lie would be
glad to know if ratability had been taken in pur-
sstsassre of the Actstremets.
The CitativEu.nit of the Excniouga said, he
had immediately alter muck the neceesary inquiries,
and given the proper II itt twits. He was nut aware
that. the returns had nut been made.
Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH said, as far as he knew
the returns( had 11/B1 yet beesintatte.
llr. Algxeixii (.s we Could collect) said, the
lim; wn• ae.uly to Istroril every infortusditra desired.
Sir JAMES lii ACK INTOsIII repeated; that the re-
titZi of the utttnbvr of prosecutions for forgeries

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the Batik, fur the years tisk, itrecetrinst the rear
irn, slid the r„,.,t,5,„ grti(ll:itext succettruig, Lad
bad mut set hero Mod it pp.. •
Mr. SMITII wished t se twhde of making tip re.
turns ordered by the House should I,r inveolgated.
When enact.* were made, thry taelpariltly trldteal
to different offices, so than the nlvile might be kept
twit from the negligence of the desks rn our
office. fie recollected so imt4sice wl;esv fl.i
per* required, having to come loom six (Seer,
they had been delayed twveval weeksb) thr slowness
of the persons in one office. If the prisons con-
cerned were 'nide to understasid. nut it was Ilse
duty of every individual to use divatch, dispatch
**mild be attained.

• Mr: BFN NETT observed, OA drIAVI IMO some-
times happen, without oily impulinsuis on the dill-
game of the civics, frout•the difficulty of inakilig
tip returns. It, had cost himself many hours to
make up the return of persona sent to Botauy Boy
within a certain period. .

111UPPLY.—ORDNANCE ESTIMATES.
The order or the day IL-ing mitt tOr the coutsi-
derat ttttt of the Report of the Comm'are of
-Supply, •

Mr.BSKNETT said, hr would offer a few words
MI a subject he had allotted to the other
He Meant the treattortit of the crap% of sailtery
drivers put on half-pity. Their never wars case of
greater iiojnry. It had beets stated ht' the Right.
Hun. Gentleman (the Cliat.cellor of the Exclie•-•
quer), that eight corps out of twelve hail b?en
banded st the pteace, and that the remaining four had
retired out full pry, on ati .with Got,
verittoesit ; but the fact we., that hut stx bail bete
disbanded in 1814, and the four now on full pay
bud been formed out of the remaining six. The case
Of Captain Humphreys was peculiarly hard. All
the six were entitled to the same allowances ; one
battalion had the option of retiring on roll pity, or
accepting C 01111111•110111.1 in the regular forces. He

arike4l the same for all. The officers had pot and
fir meant those of two troops. f low-
ever, lie did not mean to propose ally addition to the
votes.

Lord COCURAIIII could not conceive the reason of
the difference made between the officers ow that ser-
vice. It was cruel to draw the diatinction that bad
been drawn. If the proposition were niside to ex-
tend the same grants topll, he would act contrary
to his usu I habits; and vote with Ministers. lie
had a Petition in his hand from one of the pasties in-
terested, in whiclvit was stated that in a letter written
from tiseWir-Office to ;on officer in that service, and
appointed to proceed on a mission of something of
a different stature, " that this mission was merely
intended as d temporary arrangement till his Lord-
•ship (Lord Palmerston, we believe) shall have time
to come to a settled plan for the establishment of
the ctSrps." He insisted that. that letter held out
the 'mission. its a temporary measure. it oil{ un-
equal and severe that the officrns wounded at the
battle of IVaterloo should he held entitled to the
additional ample bounty of the. Prince Regent,
but that the others on half-psy should receive stilly
(id. It was stated moreover in the Petition,
that officers who entered the service in 1813 retired
on larger allowances than those who had been in the
service three-aud-twenty sears. One of the cer.
tificatcs in his baud 'hewed that oae of these officers
put on half-pay Lived uss entire battalion of Sir
John Moore's army. What made the case of those
half-pay officers more severe was, that they were
compelled on the receipt of their ball-pay to swear
they held no other place under the Crown, civil or
military. 7b afford relief to these weritonnus men
would satisfy the coussby better than giving- away
large aunts to individuals already amply provided
for.

Lord CARHAMPTON felt himself in a strange
place, and under emborrassinent. It had been his
urtruttuu to have Mt-ended the. Committee in which
the votes were wasted; but when he came in be
found the resolutions currying rapidly, without
almost any opposition. There appeared to be a
total lull—accordingly. the Right (loin. Gentle.
demos, (we understoOd'Alr: Ward) took the °Visor..
tunny of procitrink•extravisgatit•graiitti to be voted ;
and not contented with the resolutions carried in
form, lie put his basal iss hie pocket and took out a
postscript to them, which the 'louse, in its good
humour, approved of. Whether this last could
pass he did not know, us it had soot hero submitted
to the Committee. A former Psalm:mist had
declared, that the inductive of the Crown
had increased; was increaong, and ought to
be di-
unshrtl. The resolution of this (louse should he,
that the enormous expense of the. Oodelance had in-
creased, was increasing, and ought to be dioniniift.
ed.* Ile believed two.tlijoils of the.expetise was
curred in Ireland. Ile had had the honour of act-
ing as Adjutant-Central and Commander-in-Cl:ter
is that country, and had, therefore, is. haired merit
of knowing how great reductions might be made
there. Ile understood there wile nut less than
thirteen engineers employed in that country ;
whereas, when he was in employment there, the
number was but four—sonietiones three, and that
was tone too many. On another occasion,_ he would
shew the country dust great and ample reductions
might be mails.

Mr. lt. WARD said, the question was one of forms
es a resolution to that effect, had not passed the
Committee it was totally oat of The Dower of the.
Muse to grant the relief desired. To move ally
grant Inc that end, a si.ecilic ine.:sore would he
. necessary.' Ile was por.ssession of a complete
answer to what hail been urged the oilier night in
the Committee. The sanctioning of the principle
then contended fur, would tint cost SS much
as he had said, 30,000/. but the expense it would
create would a((((. to ZO,OOO/. With respect to
what had t.lleit Krum the Noble Lord on the Esti-
mates in general, they hed already rt crived so lull
a discussion, that be must be excused from givitig
ally answer. But if his exper.eoce supplied I
with any mode by which linger itirenclinients could
be simile, lie would be very ready to pursue it.
Mr. BEN N Err said he did not see the necessity
Of the vote inn 4,0001. to repair the &inapt, to the
atm walla at Portsmouth.

Mr. R. WA RD replica, that if it w,ts the pleasure
of the Howe to bring on the question in an insu-
lated shape, he had no objection. °tilers had been
already given fur the carrying on of such repairs
as were necessary to present further injury to the
works. A report had been mink that repairs to un

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amount vaatly greatt.r would be necessary, hilt
4,0001. was ail that was slow Mt/tailed.
The Resolutions were dein read, Enid the Report
agreed to.
Sir J. Al.accwrosi!, w couerquence of the un-
fortunate motion to come ins to-idol row night (we
understood. the Committee on the Alessage from the
Prince Regent), postputted his tomtit_ fur that ereits
tag to Fri'lily.
Dr. I'm t.t.tblitttit alto pneepontd his outlet fur
lilt Sallie twelillig its Fridoi.
cAVING
Oil the Older of the Day for the further cwt.
sideration of the Report vu the Saving Baulks
A melanoma Bill--
Sir J. N 61% roar made an (dejection to some of
the clattery. Tiory pletctated utritile•trores drawing
out the 1u5.411 they I ail invest. d, without hoot.
After a few remarks butte the •Chincellor of the
.Exchequer (which weir inaudible iu the welter)),
and from Mr. Howarth. Grown(' Thoroton, anal
.MrsJ. P. Grant, the Report woes ordered to be
taken into further consideratiott tin Thursday next.
• The further consideration of the Resolution of
the Committee of Supply. for renintierating the
High Bailiff of .Weatotioster, woe postponed to
Viednesday neat.
The Sinniish.Slave Trade Treaty Bill was read
second time.--Ordereit 10 be referred to a Calll•
IL:litt to-morrow.
REWARDS ON CONVICTIQN.
Oa the Order vi the Pay for the sei7oieffeending
of the Offenders Conviction Rewind Hill,
The ATTORNEY-GEPIERAL "aid, lief. unded
opposition to the Rill, because it proceeded
principle of altogether abolishing the rei
granted by the statutes ; hese hail been prof
after long deliberation, and Parliament had
the impel iotts. oecessity of t !team% to exert
the apprehending and cettv:cisitg of offe,
by proposing a stimulus 111 the rewards. -
by no means u fair widener, that the e
directing such rewards brit heel' useless
offences still continued. It was not possible
how many had been deterred front the COWt
of crime by the operation of theni.—The reas,
tthirh the Bill proceeded Ca., that the Ac'
tint generally tended to the prevention of crime
dill out at all agree with the position. There cert
had been installers in which torn of depraved
had diverted them to the le liaCiloll of the it
into the couttnission eif crime. But abuse
ground of total repeal, for perfection was ut
able. Ile apprehelided sosne incentive tee
ventiog offences was urcessury ; it was• not
'supposed that people would Tend day after
pursuit of offenders, wilh unavoidable personal
risk; without may. !trooped of reward. In •'
fences of highway-rubbery, burglary, sherd.
Mg; and coming, a recompense for apprehei
and I omitting being awarded by the several
lutes, it had bren looked upon as the duty
Judge to grant rt. and distribute it, when c
by more than one. Such recompense had
• hitherto a debt due. But his motion
leave the giving or withholding the reward
tire;lY disCitetiini of the Judge or C
'I!. 411 the stimulus would not be tekeie away,
th gractice of leading others lobo guilt, --
hope of the reward, would be. if not suppressed
at least greatly narrowed, as the Court or '
would then have ass opportunity of knowing
titer the party apprehending sod • prosecuting
fairly and honestly. or on the contrary, and
accorditigly give or withhold a proportion
manner they deemed advisable. lie would be
to take away tlee'rewardi directed to go to the
cutout of the deceased, on loss of life in
bending a felon. 'rite reward of a Tyburn
also bad his approbation, because of its
value ; in some places it was Wiifill 110.11111 g
1111'ge 10W111, 14101 as 112:111chester, it sold
large sums. His view Wits, that it would he
*hie to altogether the qt.teut of rewards
would- leave them still subsisting, with admire'.
power to the Judge or Court to decree tl
not ; and he would repeal that part of tl
which snakes it imperative on thesis to grant
Mr. W. SltlITI) rotirely agreed with n omit
of the seiffnitents of the Right Hots: and
Gentleman (the .1 tiotiley•General)' who t
down, though lie certainly differed from .some
tile inferences drawn by him, such as arguio-
utility of rewardst. -the number of *tato
reefing them. fir agreed no the general emic.
of the Right I Jon. Member, eoffept ottone
the office of deter ttt i t sing on the
it ruennir, and in what degree, to the Jud
Court. Many titmice rosy' en theory were
by experieher, impracticable; and he
betided that task would in time fall on sui
nate Ministers, •and be exposed to abuse.
thought thot the larger reword ought to be g
ion the lesser offence. He was not able to percei
the merit of apprehending and cosivivigig where
whole motive was to obtain the money. To ar
the merit was tame as for niorul merit, it
contrary, for id tune cartes out of ten, the permit
lug for the reward .n' guilty of a greater otrt.tace
the individual confided. He did not agree w'
Hon. Friend (Mr. Bennett) in thittlattqc that
wards should be taken away. Hie Would`
bee the gstent new muddied, great regard
paid to the ment and 110110s1 intention of et
ems convicting. fit-load- an objector') to agree
the Right Hues. Gentleman, its opposing the
rending, because that Would stem to throw
on the principle of the Bill; mid oil los
Friehd. fie would rather the Bill 61104111
a Second time, and committed; and that
terations necessary to meet the views of
speaker, should be added iu the Coulon
amendments.
The ATtoRNEY-CESERAII. bad no object
that confer, if the alterations suggested by
could be looked on as eineudiatuts.
Mr. BENNILIT felt himself awkwardly sit
in being .opposed to a Gentleman of so Ligl
attaimuents nu the Gentleman who opposed
He must bey, however, that he came to the
furnished with very good authority, the nine
oPinioii of a very full Committer of Polite
traits; and of every one coutiected with the sae
It Wilk their common 01/1111011, that the
should be abolished, grounded on severs!
First, the conduct of Juries to efAcers ploset.
%here their suspicions were considered a alo*
about the iteek the latter. What do.yoi
lean your views be honest was the couttllf'

aid's the additional annuity 01
blanch of the Royal Family.
wits it not ?—(1/tor, heur,
Benches.)
Sir CHARLES Mo'mg ohs
%Deuce still maintained by ties
subject, it was quite clear the
11.; a declaration to Members c,
tuveinig. which they 'trailed
Ilause.-1 Bestir, Astir.)
Air. CAM:RAPT wad. that
sent at this Matting could
. stir hound to secrecy on a
( I leur.)-11, however. nay
only he so stated to prevent
at this momrilt...—(//ear.)—
~
I/1"V S. INC oninumly hoped.l
11. into present would state
w el
fur
it thea•hotn

I. 1.C411•41 tog erin
floi
aided his pcli
d on the hut
rewards why
provided tap
liad seen war(
art On 111
gate
,Headers,
OF lil
It Was tem,
statutes pose,
become uncle
ale to sate lily,
oamisviorr
this,
ryas mon to tt
Acts had corn'
intr. lle
coup
.certainly
red wind* M
Pew 11
imam:cot
Ise was no on if
unattattr- ed in
I Ibe re- Kenai
out to be gate
rl te
rberPireel idriosip:det4 'ye
rep-steal-
usi till i:ii t i Irish.
the c
polici
buyit
food,
,
'vend 1411- office
ty of the gainii
ii claimed quern,
had beet. mina!
I was to mutt o
ward ell- , taker
or Court. - ful to
,ay, while were s
t, 101' the loostelj
pi eased, if it
If Judie violent
lug *he- then tl
tug acted porton
ad would of mu
ti in what. accordi
Ibe sorry - ponds 1
the rite- : which 4
ti appro. Coln
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exertioi
retiois ivy • hoped
thew or Those
tiv! 14w leloaao,
at them. i
country
treat part . cessity
bad
bat , to each
smile of hiced-..k
uiug the ::'. safety a
itutes di. who hat
itelusiutios to bring
r pout— /he cast
claim in . watched
lodge or • he cone
e shea,i, indentin
e amen.- reward s
subordi- Jy bettet
.t'• Hr Mr. I
be give ii had beet
perceive . even by
v here the General,
'o Weil, I V 4011 shot
t was the with reit
•tton look- . given.
etker Ilan the note
e with Lii Country
tat all re- tunmetim
if like to existing
ird tien,g The .S.
' the per. the aboli
tree anti lieu or ii
to seroncl Judge, I
A/ Vi a sla3 Proper, ,
Ili- Hill!. • 4PPeared
I lie ietpt
. Mr. 8
t the ;4!.
give to it
lie i...t 5.1, and 1
water as lion. Get
t. abt„. I
remit to stated.
by lam
Genera
rusher Ln
siitotr.rl,
than or
igh leg,'
. rued, ties
its 801, hum per
e I lote*-,
crimes wc
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soil et. tamed ou
rewords
reitseim, 1
sectitit,g, ' Alr. Alt*
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