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THE NATIONAL REGISTER

imrsut,t, aad that the proposition now made, would leave
the hone in ei ssss iderahle difficulty. Ile was favour-
able to the publication of their ',Tulip, and to the freest
'Taroks sot them t he thought they were caleillabd to be
of the greatest use. Ilut as to the remarks in question, they
%%ere sentulikkus and merited the sever, st vbilation of the
house, and he therefore moved that Cooper, and the printer,
Weaver, on account of his prevarications particularly, be
committed to Netvgate„ (IIeal.)
Alf. BAN ICES suggested that the motion should be that
Cooper be committed to Nenate," he having avowed him-
self to he the author "

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Sir W. BE Clt I..SPIGNY complimented the.conduct of
Nlr. Bennett. lle regretted that the real authors were not
dkenvered —I hat the sr !Ten had not been thrown down, and
exposed the real culprits. lle mobt cordially seconded the
taw ion.

Lord N UG I:NT said the house bad got out an mare dif-
ficult dilemma last cession, Ott asioned by the motion of Sir
J. Newpoi t, respecting the laingliohne addre•s, inserted In
The Gazette. That breach of privilege wars of the grossest
character. Thht ca.e pointed out the course that might be
pursued. A. I liat case was pa.•ed over lie thought it was
most ungraciou: to propose to vi,it SO severely those poor
presaricat in 4 wretches who hail appealed at the liar.—
I lea r, hear.)—W ho the skiill.ing assassin of nu author nits,
tha .k God, lie knew not—hat lie certainly Wit, against the
moti•in; null he moved as an amendment, that Cooper be
culled to the bar. reprimanded, :tad ilisi barged.
Par. 11081 i OU F, seconded tit,: amend''' tit.

Tito :Marquis of LON DON DLItIt Y had obtained what
lie desired, Ihne to ronsider the question; hut he was sorry
that a learned gentleman (Nit.. Scatted) bud let l himself to
clutchcnlu tch wee any bileeelaii.)llo of the word, as to any hidden
audifils.—llear, hear.—He was also sorry that a eallant
general had followed in the COUP coot- e. As to attacks on
honour or female virtue, he would ant comitunance 11. ens ;
hut lie could tint give credit to that warmth which comfit only
be 41 onsed by al tucks on frieiolk, without heilig dist up bed by
steaks on furs. When ton cots of libels were directed
against some of the best charactirs and dearest interests of
the country, he should have given credit to the oppu,ition,
if he had seen a display of what he shoutd hove called British
feeling ; but in the cake of the attacks on a right boo. friend
(Mr. Canning) Ilieue was nn such severe procredluzs
'flue minutes of that cake were read—Lind Londonderry
mov tug as au amendment, that Cooper be committed to the
sergeant at arms.

Mr. SCA lILETT explained. He thought it was right to
have brought the ease forst it.d ; it h. d been said that smo-
ther must have written the paragraph in question. Ile was
desirous that such rumour should be proved to be false. As
lu writing for party, if it were done honourably, he should
baste no fault to find with it ; but if character nos attacked
for party purposes, it was then to be roodemited. If it %sere
deceit', to write down the liberty of the press, this paper
seemed to be pursuing such course--eertain it was, that it
could be written by 110 gentleman. The libel in question
evinced design; it strolt of blood ; and it seemed to lie
desired to provoke parties to estimates. If that were not
n bleach a privilege, never let Donn vindicate their privi-
leges zigaia. As to the ease resocetitig Mr. Canning, he
could out admit that there was any sionliarily beim ern them;
that was simple in tsrepresentation—is us not the libel its
que.tion much outset
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY explained. tie was
glad that los a arnith had dram forth the disavowal of the
learned gentleman; lie wished the house not to deal
this question us one of party. As to the lilet tin Mr. Can-
ning, it really led to a message; therefore there was not so
much dill'. retire between the two libels, as both ;vete calcu-
lated to protrude extremities.
Sir It. FERGUSON denied that he had acted from party
nit i its; lie is ished the noble matqlis outdo! look to his own
motives before lie spoke of those of other persons. lie had
expressed an honest indignation of the new system of s.:au-
dalising and libelling the women of England. (Cheers.)
Mr. C. W. WYNN said, it was Otte of the aunt peculi-
ariths to allude to the number of libels; there hail been
libels that were disgrarerul to the ctiuntry. As to the hbel
on Mr.lCannioe, he tliouglit it had been dealt with too
leniently ; he thought It was impossible that misapprehension
ahme conid have produced the revolt. Ile verily belies. d
that the weak leitity diaptayed out that occasion had tended
to produce what was now cumplaincd of. It oltri time to
cheek these libels. It was nut the first 1115letIll'e lately %%bete
members had been, to e.inunenis, charged is fth ;lasing been
intimidated to 111410. moulogies.
!qr. WAR I) said that no worse notion could get abroad
than that it nos safer to attack vodka:len on one side rather
than on the other; therefore he was for dealing .:ut an cyual
measnre of justice. As to the two Ithels, he thought that
tin Mr. Canning the worst of the two; for it did tout speak
of one individual stet, but of the clout acter of au hon. tnem-
bees life and mind.

Lord J, IitiSSELL observed, that in case) of privilege
the lewd punishment was the test. At to Mr. C" g, it
would be remembered that he had ido hen of the •t revered
and ruptured Ogden ;" he &lied the noble lord to entint.on
ally paper un the other side that amok"! lit •rate haracter
like the Jahn Bull.

Mr. C. iityrctiiNsox maintained, that there was no
similarity between the two Lases, that of Mi. Canning,
and the one now Li fore the house. The evidence adduced
at their bar in the former inAallee gave satikraction to the
whole house; It was that of 411 honour a/lie man. It was
not to be eumpat ed with that or the prevaricating per-
sow who In,sl appeared on the present ucea.ion.
Several other members delivered their se itnimenti, after
which tho imin•t• divided, when the smashers tot-re--rut
the motion of Lord Nugent, that hlenty l'es: Cooper be
eta... Mild to 11:e custody of the seigeasit at arm', i;.•••-•
Fur the amendment of Mr. Bating, that he he eunniinted
to New gate, 109—Majot ity fur 1114:41111egidniesit,
The SPEAKER was ditucted to make out his warrant
accordingly.
It was thou moved and adopted without a diviAou, that
It T. Weaver had grossly prevaticeted iu the evidence
given by !sins at Ilse bat of the house.
Mr. W. S5llTli moved that It. T. Weaver be called to
the bar, rapt mutinied by Mr. Speaker, and discharged.
Mr. C. WYNN enured, as an amendment, that R. T.
Weaver be committed to Neogate.
Upon this, question the gagery was cleared, a division
followed—Fur the original !outwit, 21—Against it, 31--
Majority fur cue iiii itment, 7.
%Viten again admilled• 4%c found the houve engaged in
discussing a pauposition fur printing the evideitt's, that
the house inignt ascertain whether there had beet. any
prevarication euu iiii Wed by Messrs. Arrowsmith and
snacked ui their evidence.

Sir C. 1.0 NC, said, Ln Intd heard the evidence ni thobe
individuab, Mid tied taut disco: 61:f an; Using tt Div it led Win

to support this motion. He thought the house would
be consult its own honour and dignity by proceeding no
forther.
The gallery was cleated, but no division took place,
and the soggestiutt of Sir C. Lone was adopt. d.
hHB ORDNANCS lisTlMATEs.—Wliell again admitted,
we tumid

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Mr. HUTCFIINSON on his legs, speaking on the
question for the house going into a committee of supply,
to take into consideration the ordnance estimates. The
hon. member adverted to the notice which Its gave on e
former night, of leis intention of calling the attention of
the house to the state of Europe; lie would not, however,
enter into a detailed statement on that subject now, but
give notice that he would, on the 22d instant, subunit a
motion on that subject.
On the question for the Speaker leaving the chair,
Mr.IIU ME entered at considerable length into a review
of the present expenditure under the head of ordnance
department, which he contended was excessive. lie con-
cluded by moving a string of resolutions, containing a
comparative statement of the ordnance estimates in 1791,
and 1723, and the years 1817, 1818, and 1819, and
recommendiog to the house to adopt every possible •pe.
leaving the chair, and proposed, as an amendment, seve-
ral re•cintions, entitmaiiiig a comparative view of 11. e
expenses of the ordnance department at diffici mil periods.
cars of reduction.
Ott this amendment the house divided, and the 'tumbrils
were—Fur the amendment, 56—A ga lust it, 119—Majo-
rity, 54.
The Speaker having left the chair,
Mr. WARD, after a very long explanatory statement,
Mosel a grant of 43,e0:11. to the master-general, officers,
and clerks in the Toner and in Pall-mall.
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Mr. P. A 10001; said, that whenever lie had the honour
of being in that lonise at the hour of 11, he would arrest
the progress of supplies both for the health of his Ma.
jest,'s ministe►s and his own laugh), that they might
take Punie refreshment and repose. He moved that the
chairman report progress, and ask leave to sit again.
The motion was at once agreed to.
Some other orders of the (lay were then gone into, but
:14. Hume moved the adjournment of the house, and Mu.
P. Nlow r hitt:uited his resolution to move the adjourn.
mint of the Lowe Iteleafter whenever it was past to dye,
whether supplies or any other subject were before it.
Adjourned at half past one.