The National Register.
London, England, 1822-03-18 00:00:00

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The wirers, dames were then a reed to. and the report having
been made, the MI was onlervd to be rvad the third time to.
morrow. The House adjourned.
THURSDAY, XIAIICII t.
Lord KING gave notice that he simu!d call the attention of
the Wive, on this day sennight to the cxoenrei ef
List, with a view of proposing a reductiosr, r.ot. :n the personal
owences cf the Suveteige, but tithe, -.7.t.relles of the puhlic ser-
vice. the noble 1..0:4 r.ccortlingtv InJvetl the House be stun-
toonerl fur this day se'nnight. They were accordingly sum.

owned.
Toe Mart•"L rf LANSDOW NM presented a petition from
Pcndrinier and Co., praying permission to bring in a
istll to extend his patent rignt for making paper by machinery.
The petition was laid on the table.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the th:rd reading of the
Five pee Centinn Annul y
The Earl of ROSE:1E1111Y expressed his general a.sent to the
BR!. Ile considered it a meat:rue completely within the spirit
anti meaning of the 26th of George 111.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in order to record his dis-
approbation of that part of the Dill which calls upon the hollers
of live per Cent. Stock to give in their dissent before the 16th
of March, moved an amendment to insert after the word " of,"
the word April." It was not his intention to divide the House
upon the question, but merely to propose the amendment, for
the purpose of expressing his dissent ti Fitt of the bill.
Theamendurent was then put, and negatived without a (bid-
,
blOll.
Lord CALTIIORPR vllatled to the present unfortunate state
of In.Lotl, and moved that an humble address be presented,
praying his Majesty would be graciously pleased to order that
there he lad biline that [louse a return of all commitments to
gaols in counties of Ireland in wl.icti the Insturcc:ion Act had
been put in execution. within the lust six months. and of u!1
convictions whirl; had taken place under the Special Commis-
sions of A:size, within the said disturbed Coundes.—The motion
was agreed to, and the (louse adjourned.
MARCH 15.
The Royal Assent vas given by Commission to the rive per
Cetus. Bill, and the Commissions of Assisi Sill. The Com-
missioners were, the Lord Chancellor, Viscount Melville, and
the Earl of Shaftesbury.
Lord ERSKINE presented three petitions from the owners
anti occupiers of land in Suffilk and Oxfordshire. complaining
of agricultural distress, and praying relief. The Petitions were
read and laid on the table.
ILCIIESTER GAOL.

Lord DARN LEY called the attention of his Majesty's Go-
vernment to a subject which he considered of great importance.
Ile alludcd to abmes in Ilchester Gaol. Every individual must
acknowledge that the country was much obliged to Mr Hunt
for having brought those abuses before I'arli.unent4ana he trusted
the Ilouse would consider it their duty to investigate the matter.
He did not suppose government had atahorised the oppression
exercised, but it was most extraordinary that care had not been
taken to prevent the existence of all unnecessaty hardships.
History had always strewn, that where governments oppressed
an individual, he became more formidable. The noble Earl
concluded by moving for copies of the Report of the Commis
sioners appointed to enquire into the state of Ilcheater gaol.—
Ordered.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE wished, before the House
proceeded to the ingot-tam bmineos of the day, to ask a noble
Earl whether any measure was likely to be adopted with respect
to the general regulation of gaols ? The subject some time ago
oe:up:ea-the attention of that I louse, and it was understosal to
be the intention of a noble Viscount (So!maid') to introduce a
bill. He wished theretbre to know whether such a bill was
likely to be brought in 1
The Earl of LI VERPOOL said he was not able to give any
decisive answer. The subject had occupied the serious attention
of his Right Eon. Friend (Lord Sidmouth), but he was nut able
to ray whether any spccidc retn:dy had beer; adopted.
Lord HOLLAND did. jocosely, that the attention of Go-
vernment was always occupied with almost every subject which
came belbre Parliament ; yet his Majesty's Ministers brought
forth nothing.

TITHES IN IRELAND.
The Mew of DEVONSHIRE rose to present a petition
from the Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City
of Waterford. complaining of the Tithe System in Ireland, and
raying it night be made subject to Parlianicinary.inquiry.—
lite noble Duke observed, that Parliament, taking into consi-
&ration the distressed state of Ireland, would be unavoidably
led to the present system of Tithes, which ought unquestionably
to he the subject of inquiry. The petitioners said they possessed
the Tithes of 13 parishes, and that they were willing w concur
in any sacritice by way of commutation, or any inodus which
might lead to public tranquillity. The noble Duke had chem.-
fuily taken upon himself the duty of presenting this petition.
because he was glad of the opportunity of expressing publicly
how sincerely and deeply he fe.t, as a Peer of Parliament. and
as an Irish proprietor, every thing which related to the welfare
of the people of Irelaacl. Ile was induced to attribute the very
lengthened complaints and disorder in Ireland to eonicalling
wrong in the sye.cm of Government in that country, and if that
was the case the House woi Id feel how necessary it was, to cuter,
without delay, into the inquiry demanded by the petitioners.—
The noble Duke was the on tier of 20 parishes in -Ireland, and
he animal their Lordships that he was ready to make a large sa-
crifice to insure peace and a:Malin:on. Ile felt it as a lay
regulator that he was bound to consider the peacitaafti happiness
of individual, and in the sacrifice he nate!: make with respect
to tit. es, he tad not see that be iaaanfered with the lights of tae
clera. Ile was satisfied that any measure allowing a contain
ration of tithes in Il Lunt could not interfere with the question
of tithcs in England. The petition lie preiented spoke the
language of all theloyal and intelligent people 01 Ireland.
The petition was that read.
The Eat! of I.IVE said, he never recollected hearing
an important subject delivered in that Houae in a more able and
manly manner. The noble Duke was entitled to more than the
common consideration of Pin Lament. Tile question of tithes
ocetiaied die serious attention of his Majesty's government, and
that of the Lord Liettaniaot of Ireland. Tile nuLl: Marl ad-
mitted that the question ought to be cainsideted by nub:et-tent
independent of the di:anthem:es in Ireland, and eLo that it could
not interfere with any question arising out of tithes in linglitud.
The Petition was laid on the table.—Adjourned.

IiOUsE OF I.:OyIAMONS•
sIONDA V, MAUCH 11.
The Speaker crone to the honse at half past 3 o clock.
Mr. 0114111'e, the yt0113411 usher, then sunnlinhrd the
lonise to attend in the house of peers, to bear the ro, al
as cot eiven, by cotionlssion, to smolt y bills. (See Lords.)
Mr. O. 1,11110, All. Plnu ett,and Mr. K. Douglas, touts
the 0411tsoli I:wir seats.
Tue Dublin Foondliog Hospital Lill was read a first
time.
Sr veral petition• were presented against the Edinburgh
Pollee bill, and r. to Ilie committer.
Pe'ilir,its cuntelait.:og o; act ei distress were pre.
sehtett limo the flohletoess gt it:littoral Society, and the
county of Denbigh.
Mr. CURWEN usve Cot en Fi Hay he 1111011 bl
Itlo%r Wr a committee of the s hole house on the ,ul•jeel
of the ttutit s Ohl taboo., butter, and c;jec.e, in order
tint n (hip prt•pottiou uf duty might be ta:.eu otf flUla
4.1101 at tit he.

Mr. COKE presented * petition from Wade') against
the Norfolk New Gaol bill.
Mr. 0. BENNET!' presented a petition from certain
debtors confined ie I`..e4tester real, erintilaining of the
e•„..t.ao or rigoar to whir It they were sithjeiteri the Clete
rules null regulation.t.—Read, and (ordered to be piiiitra.
Mr. G. BEN NET I. then presented a petition from the .
Rev. Mr Cressw. 11. of St. Suntersetshire, in fa-
vour 4.f Charles Hill, a crown debtor, who had been int.
propel ly ronfloed in Ileheeter gaol for sixteen years, oil
remand of some taxes.
FIVE PER CENTS. BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Moved
the third reading of the Navy Five per Cents. bill.
Mr. TIERS 3Y Said, those who were interested in this
matter complained that they hail net the notice to which
they were entitled. The Three per Cents, an well as the
Four per Cents., were to be paid off as prescribed by the
at is ott the subject ; end they showed the Five per Cent.
holders what was meaon by ar redeeming and paying off
—lle quoted the 25'1i Gen. IL and lie urged that the pro-
visions of the la..v wine not to-implied with. It ;untitled
diet the Five per Cent. bidders should, not be subjected
to he paid off till 2'S millions of the Three per Cents.
were paid till. Ile did not wish to throw any ditlieulties
in the way of government, but lie 1,110111,1 like to have the
opinion of the learned gentleman on the eithject.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL said, that the Three per
Cent. holders bad accepted of terms of payment held out
to them r and as they were satisfied, he did not see how
the Five per Cent. hollers could complain. The Three
per Cent. holden had been satisfied.
Mr. TIERNEY said, his objection was not removed or
answered. The Five per Cent. holders hail calmilated on
a certain notice, that of 12 months; and the proceedings
of the Three per Celt'. proprietors COIIIII ant affect the
'dale language of the set. The law hall given them a
certain techirity in the way of notice, and no compromise
or agreement on the part of the Three per Cent. holders
could affect die other 'moire.
Mr. IIUtIi.ISSON maintained that the Subject had been
accurately answered by his hothand learned ()lend. The
subsequent art afigemente, by the 16111 clause, etude no
reference to the Ithli Geo. IL He admitted that by the
22d of the King, they were in elicit a Ott:Ilion that they
could not pay or portion, of the Three per Cents. witheia
12 months' notice. With regard to the other funds, the
parliament would not have so tied lip the government as
to coined them to nliiile by such reguletion.
Mr. ELLICE said, that, to his plain understanding, the
law had provided dial '25 millions of the debt should filet
he paid off, by reducing the Three per Cents. to that
amount I now, a reduction of the debt to that a ttttttt lit had
not been made paid oR, therefore lie again contended,
that die Five per Cent. holders were not fairly treated.
His former objections still existed; Ito still compl tined of
the terms of the bill.
Mr. IV [ELIA MS saitl,that he knew a ;Arty who hail
protean,' a disarm which hail been refused.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed,
that the party had only lost the runnerical order, whirl'
was not of mach consequeuee, as all the ditiaents would be
pail off in one day.
'l* he bill was then read a third time.
A new clause was brought up, making additional pro-
visions on the subject of Five per Cents. blending in the
homes of tiusteee.—Agreed to.
Mr. HUME rove to ;adipose a clause, to which he
thought thete would he no objection. there were not
it provision to gnat d the country against such additional
expetice, the Batik would charge the customary 3001. per
million fur 7,00a,0C0 . increase to the capital of the debt,
for their charge of matiagement of the transfer. He then
read die clause, providing that their should lie no addi-
tional charge on the part of 'lie Bank for the management
of the debt an account of this bill.
Mr. MANNING said, there never was any iatention to
chat ge for the transfer ; but the ILIA Was entitled to
charge for the additional amount made to the 41. ht. To
agree to this clause would be to violate the act of IEOI.
The Bank now undertook to make good all forgeries on
the funds: if that act were violated, the liability would
be removed.
Mr. I'. GRENVELL said, if tide charge were snowed,
there would be an I'll4lloonel charge fir managing this
dlebt, of between 2 and 3,e0.11. a year. Thus they would
lose the savings made by reducing two of the Lords of the
Admiralty. lie denied that there would be any charge
and trouble worth naming by making the tralisfere.
Lord LONDONDERRY said, there was neither prin-
ciple 'tor motive in the clam..., for the law already settled
what the Ilank.wel io receive. Was there any motive for
taking flat; transaction out of the opt ration of the law ?
Tie stun mould not be above 2,ei 01.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, that on a former night the
1101110 marquis admitted that they ought to attend to the
smallest savings.
Lord LONDONDERRY explained. lie had merely
submitted that the law already settled 1110 gliell1l011; it
was one of good faith.
The clause was negatived without a division. The bill
was them passed.
Sir F. InnwErr gave notice, that on WedneadaY
sehmight he should move for an address to the croon to
remit the reinainder of Mr. Hind's sentence. (Helm)
SUPERANNUA fION Acr.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proceeded
to advert to such progress as bad been made to eat ry into
effect his ;Majesty's nitssage to promote by all possible
means au ecositimieal expenditure attic croon,especially
as far es concerned those servants of the crown who 114,1
lielanne superannuated. 'fill ISIO they were provided
for by bin iens means, by sinecures, &c. wlldth wet e in-
convenient.' ; but at that period there was passed e hat
was now called the Saperammation Act. Its operation,
hunever, had beets defective, and it had entailed consi.
deualde expence on the goverombent. However, the
house would soon have die opportunity cf judging what
really had been done, by reining of the stale of the office',
the salaries, fee. The revenue departments, 17,147 per-
sons, coat 1,C01,0301.; there were 1,732 persons superior-
uu itedi ; their income was 164,021. The average
suptaaiistuatioli salary was 591. I!e next noticed the
government dept' intent (lit' Treasury, Mint, &c. The
average was meet, the waste, The SalariCS were .43,001.
for 9.3 person.; te3,(P. I. (or id sriperat 1111 l persdnis.
'lle total of sularies therefore was 1,:.:0,),0ad1., for entire-
aminatione, 177,00 h—the latter fir 29 erste service on
an average. The act of 181 a, as be Mid said, wasClio'
recd. r; persuus l/ClWet 11 10 011.1'20 year.' service received
it ci riain late of ailuwatice ; those shove to eut y years an
'drained rale; Lot tit:listen 20 and 43 yeata' gravies

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