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THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY ETENING, APRIL 27, 1858.

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SUN OF.ZICE, Seven o'clock.

I NIPERIAL PARLI A ILNT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—(THIS EVENING.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.

The Earl of ALBEMARLE presented a petition'
from Wandsworth in favour of the total abolition of
Church rates.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY rose to call the atten-
tion of the Commander-in-Chief to the two cases that
had recently appeared in the newspapers of wkat was
celled " practical joking," and having read the state-
ment that bad appeared with respect to the conduct of
the officers of the 30th Regiment, asked the noble
lord whether he intended to put a stop to such
mischievous and discreditable conduct in the army ? It
Was his belief that the parties principally at fault were
the commanding officers of the regiment. He wis'ned to
know whether the noble lord had instituted any inquiry
into the transaction ; and if so, whether he would make
known to the public what was the determination of the
mat ter ?

Lord HARDINGE expressed his regret at being
obliged to admit that the facts reported of the case re-
ferred to were not exaggerated. He had admonished the
offending parties in the strongest language, and he had
only to say that it these remonstrances proved ineffec-
tual he would feel it his duty to advise her Ala-
jei..ty to exercise her prerogative by adopting a summary
mode of putting a stop to such practices.
The Earl of HARD WICKE said that if he was Com-
mander in-Chief he would certainly deem it his duty to
hold the colonel of each regiment responsible for those
offences, and he would deal with him in the most sum-
mary manner.

Lord VIVfAN said it so happened that the colonel
of one of the regiments alluded to was at present in the
Crimea.

The subject then dropped.
On the motion of Lord REDESDALE Haffe's Estate
Bill was read a second time.
THIRD READINGS.

The Folkestone Harbour, the Brighton Improvement
Bill, and Prices Patent Candle C.n Bill were read
a third time.

CHURCH RATES.

The Bishop of EXETER, in presenting two petition;
from Exeter and another place in Devonshire, on the sub-
ject of Church rates, took the opportunity of calling the
attention of the house to the actual state of the law on
the subject. A. few evenings ago, when this question
was brought under their notice, the Lord Chancellor
gave his authority to the motion that the law respecting
Church rates was absolutely effete, and that there was
no power to set it in action—that it was, in fact, a bye-
law, which it would be vain to revive. He (the Bishop
of Exeter) wished to revive nothing on the subject,
but he would state what was the fact as regarded the
LIU/ upon the subject up to within a few years ago.
The right reverend prelate then proceeded at great
length to cite the different statutes of the law with
respect to church rates. The reverend prelate
contended that the spiritual courts are still empowered
to compel payment of Church-rates, under penalty of im-
prisonment of the person or sequestration of the estate, of
the parties in default. In fact the law as regarded church
rates was more stringent than that applicable to the
payment of tithes, for it gave a remedy in the former
case which did not exist with respect to the latter. The
rev, prelate then quoted the opinion of Dr. Lushington,
who considered church-rates a poll-tax, and expressed
his astonishment at such an opinion.
(LEFT SPEAKiNG.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(THIS EVENING.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.
The Inverury and Old Meldrum Railway Bill was
ordered to he considered.
On the motion that the England and Ireland Improved
Communication Bill be read a second time,
Mr. CAIRNS moved as an amendment that the bill
'be read a second time that day month.
Mr. FRENCH opposed the amendment, and, after a
short discussion, in which Mr. Kirk, Mr. Vance, Mr.
Lindsay, Lord Naas, Mr. H. Herbert, and other hon.
members took part,
Mr. BOUVERIE expressed an opinion that putting
off the bill for a month would be putting it off fur the ses-
sion, and he should give his vote for taking the second
reading at once.
Mr. CAIRNS said he should not trouble the house to
divide; and.
The bill was read a second time.
PETITIONS.
Petitions were presented by Sir W. Vernon from
Armagh against the Maynooth grant ; by Mr. Horslall,
from Liverpool, with a similar prayer ; by Mr. 0. Gore,
from' a place in Shropshire, praying that the public-
houses might be closed the whole of Sunday ; by Mr.
Dundas, from a place in Scotland, against the proposed
Scotch spirit duty.
NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mr. LAYARO gave notice that on an early day he
should move a series of resolutions to the effect that the
house viewed with deep and increasing concern the actual
state of the nation. Whilst atall times the administration
of public affairs should be'entrusted to those beat qualified
it was the more necessary that there should be so at a
moment of great national emergency. That the manner
in which the interests of party favouring influence had
been consulted in preference to merit in appointments to
the highest offices of State diplomacy, the army, and
other branches of the public service, was opposed to the
best interests of the State, and had already given rise to
many great misfortunes, and were calculated to bring
discredit on the national character, and involve the
country in 'much distress. That the house would give its
support to any Ministry which in the present emergency
should propose to place the different departments on a
proper and efficient basis in those respects.
SIR JAMES BROOKE.
Mr. SCOTT asked her Majesty's Government whe-
ther the reports of the commissioners appointed to in•
quire into the position and proceedings of Sir James
Brooke would be laid before Parliament prior to the
Whitsuntide recess ?
FLOATING BATTERIES.
Mr. HUTCHINS asked the First Lord of the Ad-
miralty whether the screw propellers made for the new
floating batteries had not been found insufficient, and
whether the batteries had not been again placed in dock
to have another screw to each added ?
Sir C. WOOD replied that he had not heard of any-
thing being the matter with them ; at all events it was
quite certain they had not been placed in dock. (Hear.)
OFFICERS' WIDOWS.
General WYNDHAM asked the Under Secretary for
War whether any and what arrangements had been
made for granting pension to the widows of the general
and other officers who had been killed iu the Crimea ?
Mr. F. PEEL said he was not aware of any new ar-
rangement having been made with this view, but pen-
sions were usually granted to the widows of officers who
fell in action, or in the servicA of the country. (Hear.)
NATIONAL EDUCATION.
Mr. MILES asked the right hon. member for Droit-
wich whether it was his intention to make an alteration
in Committee in his Bill for the better Encouragemeat of
Education in England and Wales, in the words by
which he proposed to raise money for educational pur-
poses, by substituting parochial for union charges.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said it was his intention to pro.:
pose the alteration indicated by the hon. member when
the bill was in committee.
ARMY MEDICAL OFFICERS.
Col. DUNNE asked the Under Secretary for War
whether it was the intention of the Government to asso-
ciate a civil practitioner with the military medical offi-
cers who direct tLat department of the army ; to state
who had been selected, and whatatnount of pay he was to
receive ; also, whether he was to become subject to the
articles of war ?
Mr. F. PEEL replied that it was the intention of the
Government to send out a civil practitioner with the
military medical officers alluded to ; but he was not pre-
pared at that moment to furnish the further particulari
sought by the hon. and gallant member.
JUVENILE OFFENDERS.
Mr. ADDERLEY asked the Secretary of State for
the-Home Department, whether it is his intention to in-
teiduce a short bill to supply the detect in the Youthful
Offenders Act of efficient provisions for recovering, in
tic cases, from parents, a portion of the cost of their
maintenance at Reformatories ?
Sir G. GREY said there bad been found to be some
practical objections to the matter referred to by the hon.
member, but as a bill would be shortly introduced by
nn hoe. member on the subject, it could be further Con-
sidered.
MORTAR AMMUNITION AND SHELLS.
Colonel WYNN asked the Clerk of the Ordnance
whether there was any truth in the report that many of
the fusee. 4 fitted to the shells fired from the mortars in
the batteries before Sebastopol were made so long ago
as 1798, 1801, 1804 and 1812 ; whether it was true that
the powder employed to fill many of the shells was da-
maged powder restovod, instead of being fresh and good
powder ; and whether the new pattern fusees made in
1852 and subsequently had not frequently been found to
be inefficient?
Mr. MONSELL said that all the 12-inch fusees sent
front Woolwich were made in the years 1853 and 1854.
The 13-inch faeces sent from Malta might have been of
older date. With .regard to the second part of the
question, be might say that re-stoved powder was gene-
rally used for such purposes. As to the last part, the
fuses bad not been found inefficient, as they were on an
improved principle. (Hear, hear.)
OFFICERS' HORSES IN THE CRIMEA.
Colonel WYNN asked the Under Secretary for -War
whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Govern-
ment to give any compensation to those officers whose
horses (provided at their own expense) have been de.
stroyed by the labour they have been subjected to in
bringing up from Balaklava to the camp clothing, medi-
cal comforts, and provisions for the-soldiers : whether
at Varna b eg iveanrntao
whent ose
theofficers
army whose
em-
bark;onrys compensation
ed fre
Mr. F. PEEL said that compensation was
country'salwa
haeorme t ehfte c e wii
to the Crimea?
behindi
made to officers who lost their horses in the
service, but he could not say whether the regulation
would apply to the instance pointed out by the gallant
member, as it would depend upon the circumstances of
the case. No application had, however, been made to
him at present.
THE CASE OF LUIGI BURANELLI.
Mr. BRIG.IIT moved, that the house at its rising do

adjourn nrtd Alonelay, in oiler to have en onpertenit;
ca;il;j4 le, eve-e 1 rier. of tee Hee—, Seeeetare tc
the case of this unf Jrtunate man now moles
sentence of death. He understood that maey medical
gentlemen were of opinion that the man was insane when
he committed the crime with which he was accused, and
he had heard that Mr. Shaw, a medical practitioner,
and a person most competent to judge as to the
prisoner's state of mind, bad been subpoenaed by the
Crown, but had not been called and examined, it having
been asctrta;ned that his evidence would be favour-
able to the prisoner.
Sir G. GREY said he had made inquiries into this
subject, and had consulted the learned judge who !,ael
tried the case (Mr. Justice Erle), and was ft-illy satisfied
of the prisoner's criminality. With regard to what took
place at the trial he was not aware of the fact
alluded to by the hon. meniher, and was not therefore
in a position to pass an opinion upon it.
MR. LAYARD'S SPEECH AT LIVERPOOL.
Mr. EWART wished to ask the Under Secreare for
War a quei-tion, which he did with some reluctance,
but, nevertheless, as an act of ju,tice to himself and
a relative of his, who was now serving his coun-
try in the Crimea, and the subject of the
question arose out of a speech merle the other
evening by the honourable member for Aylesbury
at Liverpool. (Hear.) The hon. gentleman then stated
that of the officers promoted to the staff in the Crimea,
only one, a relative of bis (Mr. Ewart's), in the
93d Highlanders, had obtained a first-class certifi-
cate at Sandhurst ; and that officer was the only
one promoted, whether from Parliamentary influence
or not the hen. gentleman said he could not say. (LI ee.r.)
With regard to the first part of this statement, he
(Mr. Evart) felt it an imperative duty to state
that it was an incorrect representation, other officers on
the staff having also obtained similar certificates ; and
upon the latter point, he was desirous of asking the
Under Secretary for War whether any influence, Par-
liamentary or otherwise, was used to secure the promo-
tion of his relative ? He most sincerely hoped not.
Mr. F. PEEL said as there was another question on
the paper of a similar kind he would reserve his answer
till that one bad been put.
Mr. H. BARING thereupon asked the Under Sec-
retary for War whether certain statements in a public
print, signed A. H. Layard, a member of this house, of
the services of officers of tire Coldstream Guards be cor-
rectly represented from official sources ?
General PEEL said he deeply regretted to be also
obliged to find fault with some of the statements of the
hon. member. He commented at some length upon the
statements made by the hon. member fur Aylesbury,
to the effect that certain officers whose names he men•
tioned had received appointments through private in-
fluence. (Hear, hear.) He denied that Colonel
Wilson bad been obliged to pay 3,0001. for a com-
mission, in order that the son of Lord Hardirge
might have one without cost.
[LEFT SPEAKING.]

ARMY BEFORE SepASTOPOL COM-

MITTEE-(THLS DAY.)

(Continued from our first editiOn. )

Captain Milne afterwards proceeded to state that in
-all cases the embarkation of troops was superintended
by Admiralty agents. A great difficulty was experienced
in getting vessels for the conveyance of horses. The
first difficulty experienced was in the case of the artil-
lery. He did not deem it advisable to separate the
horses from the guns and the men by sending them in
different vessels ; so he devised a plan by which every
vewel that went out with artillery, was complete in it-
self, and contained a united effective force of men, horses,
and gnus. The horses were all shipped under proper
superintendence ; and the vessels were fitted out pre-
viously for their reception, on the Government plan.
With regard to the Hull plan of shipping horse; he
thesislit it might do very wed for short voyages, but it
would net answer for a long and rather rough voyage
like that to Constantinople. ‘Vith resp, et to the casual-
ties that had occurred in the conveyance of horses, con-
sidering the number of horses sent out from time to time,
the accidents were exceedingly few—indeed they were
less than had beenthelease in any corresponding number
of horses ever sent out previously. With reuard to the
shipping of Ordnance stores, when the Ordnance in-
formed hint that a certain quantity of stores were rea.ly
to be sent on board, they were itiformed by him to what
ship they had bsen apportioned, and the stores were then
loaded under the superintendence of the Ordeance shi p per,
So far as he was concerned he knew of no pressing request
having been forwarded to expedite the sending out of
medical stores, and they were unless marked " urgent"
sent out in sailing vessels in the el-dinar/ way. If 39
marked they were sent by steam. Admiral Boxer had
the management of the transport service at Constatiti-
nople, and he had heard no complaints respecting the
manner in which he peuformed his duties. He believed,
however, that Admiral Boxer was removed to Balak lava
on the ground that his conduct had nut been very satis-
factory.

By the Chairman—Complaints respecting Admiral
Boxer could not have been made to the Aemilalty
without his knowledge, but they might have been made
privately to the First Lord of the Admiralty.
By Mr. Layard—He had never received any corn-
plaints respecting Captain Christie. Admiral Boxer had
never written home stating that he had not sufficient
transport vessels at his command to meet the wants of
the commissariat. If a requisition had been made by
Commissary-General Filder to Lord Harninge, to the
effect that he required a certain number of transports
f,:r the conveyance of baggage animals, the Commander-
in-Chief would have applied to the Admiralty, and
any number of vessels might have been placed at the
disposal of Admiral Boxer. He was never informed
that a supply of coal was wanting at Constantinople.
The supply was kept up there from Malta. He did not
think it right that a vessel like the Sanspareil should
have been in want of coal, but he thought about that time
great demands were made upon the coal depot at Con-
stantinople by the large ',umber of steam transports
employed. It was not conside7ed so necessary to ,send
out steam-tugs, because there was so large a number of
steam transports continually passing from Malta to
Constantinople, all of which had orders to tow sailing
vessels whenever required. No ships were fitted up at
home for the reception of the sick and wounded until
lately. He thought the consolidation of the two de-
partments of Somerset-house and Whitehall ought to
have taken place long ago, for much inconvenience arose
under the old system in consequence of Admiralty busi-
ness being carried on at the two places separately. He
was net prepared to admit ttat the transport depart.
ment was the only one which had failed ; since every
demand made upon it by the Government had been
strictly and promptly complied with. The requisition
made upon him for the sending out of winter clothing
and huts was so sudden that some time was lost, owing
to the difficulty iu obtaining transport vessels. With
regard to the forms used in the Admiralty he did not
think there was any superabundance ; at all events not
too many to check the efficient discharge of the duties
of th, service. He did not think that the old transport
regulations were now issued ; and, if it had beet,
stated to the comin'ttee that the captain of a transport
ship had been ordered to act under regulations which
were drawn up at the period of the old war, it wai cor-
rect... He had every confidence in Captain Goodall. the
unfortunate commander of the Prince. Had that officer
survived, en inquiry would have been instituted into the
circumstances attending the loss of the Prince, not ne
cessarily as ininlying blame upon him, but for the satis-
faction of the Qr o v ern m ent.

By Lord Sevt.tour—The defects in coaling at Con-
stantinople were never rep,rted to him by Admiral
Rixer—turther than that the labnurere were rot active
enough, or adapted for the work they were called on to
perform.

The committee aljourned shortly before 4 o'clock
until Monday.

THE LONDON GAZETTE

(THIS EVENING.)

CROWN-OFFICE, APRIL 25.

➢IEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THE PRESENT PARMA.

DIENT

County Cork.—Rickard Deasy, of the city of Dublin,
Esq , one of her Majesty's Conn4el, in the room of Eilniund
Burke Roche, Esq., who has accepted the office cf Steward
of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds.

BRITISH JURORS FOR THE FRENCH EXHI-

BITION.

The Lords of the Committee of Privy Council for Trade
and Foreign Plantations having been requested by the Im-
perial Commission for the French International Exhibition

to appoint forty ordinary Jurors, and ten supplementary
Jurors, to take part in the deliberations of the General
Juries of the industrial part of the Exhibition, have nomi-
nated the following parsons :

Supplementny Juror—Dr. Tyndal, Flt Prof so'
of Physics is the Royal institution of
CLASS LX.—EtEAT, LIGHT, AND ELECTRICITY.
Jurors—C. Wheatstone, F.R.S., Professor of E
rperi-
mental Philosophy, King's College, Corresponding Member
of the French Institute; Dr. Neil Arnott, F.R.S.
CLASS X.—CHEMICAL MANUFACTURES, INCLUDING

PAPER.
Jurors—Thos. Graham, F. R. S., Master of the Min_,
Corresponding Mew ber of the French Institute, and Deputy
Chairman and Reporter of the Chemical Jury in 1851 :
Warren de la Rue, F.R.S., Reporter and Juror in Exhi-
bition of 1851.

Supplementary Juror—Dr. Hofmann, F.R.S., Profess°,
of Chemistry to the Government School ,if Mines, anc
Juror and Reporter is the Exhibition of 1851.
Crass Xl. ALIMENTARY SUBSTANCES.

Juror—R. Oven, F.R.S., Corresponding. Member 01
the French Institute, ant Chairman of the Jury on Ali•
mentary Substances in the Exhibition (•f 1851.
CLASS XII.--11YGIENE, PHARMACY, SURGERY,
AND MEDICINE.

Jurors—Sir Joseph 011iffe, Physician to the British
Embassy in Paris ; Dr. Royle, F R.S., Professor of
Materia Ile4ica in King's College, Scientific Referee to
the H.E.I.C. on the Vegetable Substances of India, and
Juror in 1851.

Supplementary Juror—Edwin Chadwick, C. 8., late
member of the General Board of Health.
CLASS XIII.—NAVAL AND MILITARY ARTS.

Jurors —Lieutenant-Geueral Sir John B urgoyne,G. C. 8,,
Inspector-General of Fortifications, and Juror in 1851; J.
Scott Russell, F.R.S., Ship Builder, late Secretary to Lilo
Royal Commission for the Exhibition of 1851.