The Sun.
London, England, 1855-07-27 00:00:00

TURKISH LOAN BILL.

On the order of the day for going into committee on
this bill,
Mr. GLADSTONE said he did not intend to raise
any objection to the bill at this stage of the measure,
yet he believed an impression had gone abroad, from its
second reading passing yesterday in silence, that it was
better to accept the measure rather than run the chance
of incurring certain inconveniences. (Hear, hear.) if
they had taken powers in the bill to modify the conven-
tion with Turkey they would have got rid of the pro-
spective dangers which he then confidently told them
they would hereafter incur with France. "ear, hear.)
The Government had not thought fit to pay the least at-
tention to the speeches of the large number of gentle-
men who opposed the measure at the first stage, and
they had not thought fit to pay any atten-
tion to the unanimous disapproval of the measure
manifested by the house. He wished to know
if the convention had been submitted to the law
officers of the crown, and if so, he should claim his right
as a member of that house to ask for the opinion they
gave on it. We were undertaking to guarantee, con-
jointly with France, the interest of five millions sterling
to be lent to Turkey, but the French version of it was
conjointly and severally. He thought when two parties
entered into a joint and several liability each was liable,
but be believed that v.as not the case in this convention.
He believed that an instt ument of this kind, which was
novel in international loans, should be accompanied
by full explanations. He found that the interest of the
loan was to be transferred by the Sultan to the Bank of
England, and that the proc, cis of the loan were also to
be paid into the Bank of England. Now, if that was
so, he wanted to know were the sub-cribers to the loan
to have a light to receive their money at the Bank of
England ? (Hear.) He saw an hon. member near him,
the member for Bath (Mr. Tite) who had lately come
into the house pledged to support administrative reform,
and he wanted to know if they were not by such a mea-
sure as this making, when they ought to be making at
least a snail's progress in administrative reform, only a
crab's progress and going backwards. (Hear, hear.)
[LEFT SITTING.]

TILE LATE DISTURBANCES IN HYDE-
PARK.

INQUIRY INTO THE ALLEGED MISCONDUCT

OF THE POLICE.-(THIS DAY.)

The Commissioners took their seats this morning at
20 minutes past 11 o'clock.
Police-sergeant 12 A was the first witness called. He
stated ho had been upwards of eleven years in the ser-
vice, and five years a sergeant. He took Adam
Holding into custody on Sunday, Ist July (the
man sitting on a heap of earth with his wife read-
ing the Family Herald). The fcece acted on this
occasion in clearing the drive as they did at races
and other public places ; such as flourishing their
truncheons over the heads of the front rank to in-
duce those behind to move back. No doubt some
person's hat might have been struck; it was the case on
other occasions, and then the public took it in good part.
It was necessary some times to assume an attitude of
determination to intimidate the people and induce them
to keep back. Holden was apprehended in consequence
of his hooting and yelling, and flourishing a paper about,
and calling on the people not to allow him to be taken
into custody. His conduct was so violent he had to
be handcuffed. Witness denied that the man taken
from the Serpentine was struck in the yard of the re-
ceiving-house. The police did not strike at the people
as bad been described. Witness struck no one that day.
He did not throw a delicate young man over the rails,
as spoken to by Mr. Sims.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—The police always
draw their truncheons when they act in a body. He
was unable to say who gave the order for the truncheons
to be drawn. He could not see how a prisoner could
be irritated at having handcuffs put on him. He did
not consider this a serious case as regarded the police,
although by the 14th clause of the Metropolitan Police
Act, if the charges were proved against the men charged,
they would be liable to a fine of 101., or imprisonment
for a limited period.
By Chief Commissioner Wortley—The usual manner
of flourishing the truncheons was likely to mislead people
at a distance, and induce them to imagine the people
were being struck.
Mr. Herbert Williams, superintendent of the Royal
Humane Society, was at the receiving-house on the Ist
July. He did not see the man, brought from the Ser-
pentine struck in the yard. He was not bleeding.
Witness heard no violent language used by the police.
He saw many persons take stones crom the heap near
the receiving-house and put Clem into their pockets ; the
police then made a rush and drove the people away.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—He WI'S only in the
yard about 10 or 15 reroutes. A mistake had been
made in confounding the receiving-house with the park-
keeper's residence, where the pr,soners were taken, and
the statement of Henbery, the pa-k-kei3per, as that of
the Royal Humane Soc'ey's man, who in consequence
had been subject to mucl annoyance. The stones were
not considerably diministed. He saw several respec'e.ble
people break through the police ; it was principally
mechanics who resisted them,
Re-examined by Mr. Ellice—He saw some stones
thrown in the direction .f Superintendent Hughes from
the crowd behind.
20 D was identified by Mr. Floyd as the man who
struck him when he was held by three other policemen.
He was also identified ty Mr. Couchman.
Inspector Durkin sale he was 39 years of age, and had
been in the force nearly 20 years. The man who was
taken from the Serpentne was very violent before he
got into the water. The man was intoxicated. He
found his reasoning with the people had great effect.
There were some obstinate people who would not listen
to reason. He cautioned the men against striking the
people, and he did not see them strike any one when
flourishing their truncheons to cause the people to stand
back. He used great forbearance that day, and impressed
it on the men. He saw Superintendent Ilughes repeat-
edly, but did not see hin strike any one during the day.
Mr. Mitchell said he witnessed his forbearance.
377 A took the" wet man" into custody.. He was
very violent, and it took four men to take him to the
D airy-lodge. He saw no one strike him, nor any blood
about him.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—Referring to a copy
of the magistrate's clerk's notes, he asked the witness if
he did not state before the magistrate at Marylebone-
street, in reference to Mr. Ma.;r's case, "that, being a
gentleman, if be had gone to the superintendent he
might have got off by making an apology ?''
Witness said he did not.
72 D went with the " wet man " in a cab to the sta-
tion. The man's nose was bleeding when he first saw
him at the dairy lodge. He did not see any one strike
him. Witness struck the man in the cab with his
I truncheon in self-defence.
[LEFT SITTING.]

BOW STREET- :THIS DAY).

STEALING WATER-PIPE.

Mary Crawley was placed at the bar, charged with
stealing the water-piping from a house in Milford-lane.
From the evidence of Mr. Macey, the owner of the
house, it appeared that at about half-past nine o'clock
this morning one of the lodgers in the house came to
him at his premises at Milford-wharf, and told him he
had detected a woman stealing the lead piping from the
back kitchen. On going to the house he found about two
yards of the pipe conveying the water to the cistern bad
been cut off, and the water was rushing with great
force from that part of the pipe out of the reach of the
prisoner. The woman at the bar, about a month ago,
came to him, and having told him she had taken a room
in one of the houses, the key of the door was given to
her, and shortly aaer he discovered that a piece
of lead about three yards square had been cut from the
roof of the house. Within the last three months he had
had the whole of the leaden piping of eight houses stolen.
Ile had no doubt as to the prisoner being the woman to
whom he gave the key, and her representing that she
had taken the room in one of his houses of Mrs. Macey.
The prisoner denied being in the premises with a
felonious purpose.
The magistrate said this system of robbery was getting
quite common, and must be put a stop to if possible.
Before he made up his mind what he should do with
her, he should order her to be remanded for a week in
order to give the police time to make inquiries about
her.

MAGISTERIAL BUSINESS AT THE MANSION-HOUSE.—
On Wednesday, at a Court of Aldermen, the Lord Mayor
gave notice of his intention to move at the next court
that a rota be established, similar to that at the Guild-
hall Police-court, by which the aldermen would be ap-
pointed to transact the magisterial business at the Man-
sion-house. The time of the chief magistrate, he ob-
served, as so occupied by the business of the great
city charities, and by important meetings connected with
the corporation, that it bad become impossible for him
to devote any portion of his attention to the justice-
room. Alderman Farebrother said the proposed motion
was not at all likely to be carried. Several other mem-
bers also spoke in opposition, urging that the magisterial
office was a peculiar and strong characteristic of mayor-
alty, and could not be dispensed with without danger to
tie privileges of the court of which the Lord Mayor
was the principal member. Sir Peter Laurie said be
could well remember that in his mayoralty-27 years
ago—a great deal more business of importance was trans-
acted in the justice-room than had been done of late
Yom.