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tires of politic duty, he certainly should not by
choice have to close in contact with the brilliant
speech of Ins Hon. and Learned Friend, neither
should he by choice set himself in opposition to the
wit and eloquence of the Right 4lnti. Gentleman
opposite. In answer to the speech of his Learned
sail lion. Friend, a speech so entirely exempt from
all the usual objections made to those corning from
that aide of the House, lie had expected to have
heard soinethiug in reply, except the brilliant fal-
lacies of the Right Hoe. Gentleman, which he
would now set himself to expose; he wonld ru.'
'nine Ins points, for be could not call them argu-
ments, though he did not wish to weaken the grim-
VII effect of Ilia Sperell, 110tWiti145:111111,I lie wished
to fasten nu them the feudal Kim; against which
his Hon. Friend had protested. lie should like to
he informed by the Right Hon. Gentleman how
our ancestors had been employed (in those good
olden times an admired by him), front the accession
of William the Conqueror—swhy, from the time of
Magna Charts down to the abolition of Wards and
Liveries, they were occupied in taking sway from
that feudal system : the attacks were first com-
menced by the Barons et Runnymede, and since
then they had been contiotted to this day. His Hon.
Friend had admitted that since the days of Charles 11.
no Minister had advised a war as the means of filling
the Exchequer. But it was not that the possession
of this fund was a temptation to declare war, but it
was s temptation to go to war without declaring it.
He did not say it was so, bat he deprecated the
Crown possessiug this power, because in the eyes of
foreign nations it was viewed with jealousy ; and
without abating an iota of our maritime rights, he
would still say, that he should be ready (now in
time of peace, when it could only be imputed to a
sense of justice and not to weakness) to abolish all
that only rendered us odius without beiug formi-
dable. The Hon. Member then adverted to the
conduct of America, who before the war of 1812
gave six mouths' notice to all British vessels to
quit their 'torte, and in some instances even
extended the time. The power of the. American
Government to do this was disputed by the State of
Massachusetts. The question was referred to a
Jury, and they decided that it was rightly dote, and
in compliance with the law of nations, and (what
was singular) to Magna Charts, one of those mu-
nutriments of that olden time to which his Hon,
Friend had spoken. The Droll* daring the Ame-
rican war, he believed, amounted to half a million ;
and the answer given to their Commissioners at
Ghent, who chimed restitution, was, that it mild
not be made, as the fund was in the power of the
Crown, and the money disposed of. After this
fact, could we wonder at the jealousy of this fund
by foreign countries ? The foolish Americans refer
to Magna Charts for the law of nations; but his
Right Hon. Friend looked to the time of the
seizure of the Smyrna fleet. It was very true, that,
in the case of the Swedish convoy, the Crown hav-
ing this fund, were enabled to make compensa-
tion ; but the argument was fuuuded on the use
sumption, that under no other arrangement of the
hind could such compensation have been made.
But if he could thew that such arrangement could
be made, then the whole of the Right Honourable
Gentleman% classical speech fell to the ground, fur
he had engaged only to answer his reaassesing, not to
rival hi, eloquence. lie thought that a Committee
could in half an hour make every arrangement
which was necessary ; in fact he had a Bill in his
hand folly equal to the purpose, which he had pre-
pared four years ago, but he had been induced to
postpone it till this, which was then considered as
the most proper time, and in this mistake he wra
accomparied by others, for they had heard a
series of declarations--(Hear, dear, hear)---
that tiii% asould be the most proper time for the
full and free discussion of the subject.—(Hear.)—
The lion. Member complained of the fallacy of
spreading the amount of droits received over a
space of 60 years, although above eight minim,'
had been received during 20 years, during which
his Majesty had enjoyed a revenue of 400,009/. per
annum not voted or cognisable by Parliametit. He
argued that if this could have been known at the
votnmencement of the late King's reign, when the
Civil List was proposed, it would have been a must
imporent circumstance in regulating the amount of
that provision, and as this was a fluctuating fund,
it could not be known what the revenue would
lie; and therefore the measure proposed was pro-
per as a preliminary step before a Parliamentary
grant should be made. Ailver.ing to the grants
*mule out of the drolls to officers of the navy for
meritorious services, he asked if there was nu
suspicion of favouritism entertained ? He was sure
lie spoke the sentiments Ida set of as gallant and
accomplished Gentlemen as any in the world—
he meaut the officers of the Royal Navy, when he
said they would much rather receive their remune-
ration through any other chained. He contended
that the possession of the fond itself as u sonrce of
bounty was dishonourable to the Crown, arising as
It did out of the rights of war, as understood in
ages of military barbarism, but totally unfit for the
age in trine) we now live. He regretted that in
the eyes of foreign notions our multitude of ma.
ritime regulations from the time of Richard 1.
and the laws of Oberon, were so mixed up,
the essential with the offensive but tswiecessery
part, that they had procured us the title of tyrants
of the seas. He alluded to the case of the British
sufferers, who had their property seized by the
Danish Government after the attack on Copes'•
tagen, but had nut received any remuneration nut
of this fund, though there was a precedent in their
favour. but they were told Inv one of the Ministers
that it was a hall piece lent, and would never again
be followed; an that this groissid of merit fur the ;
fond might slaty be struck off the claims. Ile
coothuted by ispologisieg to the House for the
length of time he had occupied their attention.
Nr. 37ARRYATT stated some abusers in the West
lathe Islands.
•

Mr. C. W. WYK, explained the circumstance
of the pension which had been mentioned. as en..
joyed by a noble relative of his: it wu true thou •
he had such a pension in 1801, bat he shortly et-
terwards gave it up. He opposed the plan of the
Honourable and Learned Geotleutan. because it
went to impose a certain expense on the country iu
the emnpeusation which was p►oposed to be given in
lieu of it if given op by the Crown. As the fund,
by the plan of the Right Hon. Gentleman. would
be brought under the cognisance of Peelausept, if
et say time there was any considerable surplus, it

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would undoubteilly be apt,lied for public purposes.
He therefore should oppose the 11..-Trued Gentle-
man's motion.

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Sir JOHN NEWPORT supported the Learned
Gentleman's motion, because he thenht "11 a
power liable to abuse. As lo the 41 per cent,
duties, the surpluses might be applied to keeping
up the fortifications of the respective islands; lout
he would ask, had it ever heeo done As to the
any interference with them would certainly
be reprobated as indecorous and improper. He
concluded by saying, it gave him the greatest sur.
prise to observe with what coolness Nlimsters. when
the investigation of the Ci►il List system wasp 'ken
of, always referred the House tosome
and invariably when that period attired, said, "this
is not the lime,"

Mr. Macoue au) raid, that the great inconve-
niences experienced from the old system of the
Civil List should have prevailed on Ministers to
deviate from the course of inaction they usually
I followed, and to propose some change which might
be for the advantage of the public. At the ccm-
imelicemesit of the Regency, and again in the year
1816, it had been held out by his Nlajesty's Ser-
i rant% that at the begi tttt log of a new reign, a tit
1 opportunity would ari-e for re • g the arrange-
mem& of the Civil List ; but little could Parlia-
ment have then imagined, that wheu that pe-
rind should arise, Honourable Gentlemen holding
office would stand up on the opposite ride of
the House, and oppose the recommeodsrion col
the same grounds of delicacy before urged. It
seemed then that such a thing as revision hail iiever
been really intended, and that the promise of it was
a mere ad eaptandam argument.--(Hear./—lt
seemed that the same mystery, and obscurity, and
disingenuity, were still to be the characieristics of
the Civil List, and that it was still to be left in the
situation which he had no doubt had frequently
produced unmerited obloquy on the Royal Family
among the public. They came to that debate with
one signal advantage—the known disposition of his
Majesty, expressed from the throne, not to place
any new burdens on his people. Hut what else
could have been the ferhogs of a King, looking
around limn his throne oit the general distress and
sufferings of his subjects ?—(Hear./—The first de-
sire of a Nloisnrch aocircumstauced must have hero.
that all the arrangements rerpectiug his support and
revenue should be directed to the public convenience
and benefit, rather than to hie own personal grfttitira-
tion—fnear, hear/.—lndeed he thought that his
Majesty had in this respect been dealt with rather
unfairly by his advisers. He had been made to tell
Parliament, that he d.d loot desire any addition to
the provision made in 1816, to a provision by which
236,000/. had been virtually added to the Civil
List.—ln the state of the country lie wished to ask
what Minister would have incurred the respon-
sibility of putting language of an opposite nature
into the King's mouth? Why had he not been ad-
, wised to say to Parliatueot that he wished they would
take the whole of the subject into their consideration
without any reservation, and that if any reduction in
the revenues before granted should be considered ne-
cessary, that he would be the firm to rejoice at such
reductiou ?—(Hear.).--But by the course pursued,
Parliament was in some intoner led to deliberate
on the qoestion, according to • pre-established
settlement—a settlement in the accounts relative
to which the Noble Lord, not then present (Lord
Castlereagh), had not admitted there was an error
to the amount of 113,0001—a settlement made, u
the Noble Lord had said with reference to • time
of war, and a time when the prices of a number of
articles of consumption were extremely advanced.
But now it war known that there was a fall in
the prices of agncultursl and commercial com-
modities of learn twenty to twenty-five per cent.—
/Hear.)—The circnmstances of the country impe-
riously imposed on Parliament the duty of • thus
rough and complete inquiry into every brooch of
expenditure. They were bound to look at the first
principles of the establishment of the Civil List,
and if these were found iii their results to be disad-
vantageous and unsatisfactory to both King and peo-
ple, the stonier they were departed from the better.
The lion. Gentleman proceeded to argue that none
of the objects proposed by the formation of the Civil
List at the commencement of the lute reign had
been attained. A sum of 1.50,0001, was charged
on the Consolidated Fund for the Royal Family;
and though the private expenses of the Crown had
been limited to 60,000!. a-year, the papers on the
table sliewed that it had bad (luring the late
reign the disposal of funds to the amount of
380,0001. In theory he might assume that
the present Civil List was productive of no pos-
amble advantage; the other question was, whether
it worked well in practice? To enable the House
to judge of this, he should just mention that
times had this indissoluble engagement between
the King and the country beam violated, mid al-
ways on the some side, that of arrear—(Hear, hear,
hear.)—la 1772, Mr. Burke had thought lie
had precluded the possibility of any rrrrr. r. mid
so would any one have thought. But it was whim.
sical to observe with what contempt Minister* had
constantly meudled with the regulations of this
list. But the fault was nut so vouch their,
as that of the system itself. Mr. Pitt, in 1804.
and the Noble Lord, in 1816, had relieved the
Civil list of charges nearly to the amoutit of four
hundred thousand pounds, which was about half
the whale sum for which it had beets originally
granted to his Majraty.—/ Hear, hear./—.He
thought lie might infer, that the existing system was
productive of no single advantage—that it was coin-
plicated in its nature and details, and wily served
to mislead tile judgineot sold *mote the feeliogs.
His view of the object to be admitted wits to situ-
plify, if not to reduce (though lie thought this
part of the object deserving of all possible adieu-
tui) the entite system. With reference to the at-
taiiiiireest of the former, he would limit the extent
of the Civil List to the first four chaises that at
preload appeared on it. This change world have
the effect of bringing all charges of • contingent
and flactuaritig nature annually under the cosiri-
eleration of Parliament. And if these four heads
came fairly under the 'elimination of the House,
he was persuaded that the Crown would he sated,
by • permanent settlement, time humiliating step of
ever applying to Paeliaineut fur relief. With re.
sleet to the 11 per 'cent, duties. the Crown had
just as much right to appropriate them to its owes
sue as the malt or guy other !white hut ; sad
lemma student mid imatereoriel the right of tie

Crown was to other (traits, it was quite Clem., fi • n
the luminous statement of his Hon. and Darned
Friend who had opened the delrate, that there were
duties to be performed co-existent and ces-rateiniive
with them. In making these observatons, be was
fur from bring actua.ed by any hostile or jealous
feeling towards the Crown or the Royal Family.,
Ile believed that the monarchy, as s-•tabiished, was
the species or goyeramiisit best suit,:d to the spirit,
temper, sisid character of the pimple of Englend.
" let t. be," said the Flom and Learned
Gentleman. tt but tint ostentatiously so at a titne of
Kind di,tress.—(lferir, /tear. I —l'here are mo.
intuits when so.ae ditninutiost of splendour become.
au deCClllllOil of dignity to the CPOwn."—(o-
-
Sir liosraT Vl'iLsoN said, that when orders had
linen issued, after the peace of Amiens, for else
seizure of a!I vv.arl. under the French fl•ig, the
Government of Frarice apprehended and detained
n number of English subjects thee within its terr;-
tones, which by souse had bus considered a jest
reprisal. Ile expressed his intrusion to vote fur
the motion.

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.Mr. o
Tiertwor mid, that the question had been
so lady argued by the Hon. and Learned °pear,.
nod other speakers, that be only thoag!it it neces-
vary to mate the grouorls'on which it appeared to
him the motion should be supported. (Jr con- '
ceived that Parliament was called upon at present
to make • final arrangement of the Civil List at
the commeocement of the new reign ; and he be-
lieved, that to come to that arratigetneat propeile
and conscientiously. they were Weird to lake into
consiiieration all the resources of the Crown, from
whatever quarter derived. Moreover, if this op-
portunity were suffered to pass, and it should be-af-
terwards attempted to bring the subject under the
view of the Home, it would immediately be said,
" You are precluded from this inquiry, the arrange-
ment has been tilredy completed."—(Hear, hear)--
The only thing that Parliament was called on to do
by the mr,lloll. WUr to cousider the amount of the
limits, and whether there was out some better mode
than the present of renderiti,r them opplicithle to
the public service.— (Hear, hear.)—lle believed
that the House would not do justice to the country
in this coojuncture, if it dill not investigate all the
resources to which the Crown laid cl. iro. The
House would recollect that now, for the first time,
there wi re papers before them, containing on ac-
count of all fonds received by the Crown iu addition
to the revenues of the Civil List during the late reign
It would herald that these receipts were 'mead over a
period of sixty pens, but it was likely that the
greater part of them accred in the last twenty
years. And before voting a sum of 850,0001. •-year
to the Crown, it became the House to see how
much it was already in po ion of. He did slut
agree with his Hon. and Learned Friend, that in
case of • differeirt application of the droits being
provided for, a compensation to the Crows should
necessarily follow. He was as anxious as any man
to support the dignity of the Crown. but he could
not forget that all the sources of manioc in the
country were io a state of decay.—(Hear, hear.)—
Surely the question could not be 'settled without
some reference to the state of the country. Ile
"ref his ~/yestytad tiOlesiFire3 ohne 'sacrifice to
the distressed sod impoverished condition of his
people. He (Mr. Tierney) lived at a time when
distress prevailed over the country. from one end
to the other, when (as the Right Hon. Gentleman
opposite knew) there was a falling off in the re-
venue of the list year, exclusive of the sew duties,
of 1,400,000/., compared with that of the preced-
ing one—when gentlemen of property, and all
classes in the Suite. were obliged to contract their
expenditure, and anxiously looked for an exam-
ple of economy in the highest quarter of the State,
and he said that at such a time not a farthing
should be granted not absolutely necessary. He
did not see what possible injury could arise from
taking the subject into consideration, for that was
all the motion required. lii his bumble opinion.
those funds ought to he carried in aid of the gene-
ral resources of the country, sod if the motion
should be rejected, that would be • good ground
for him to dissent from the Resolution for the grant
of 050,000/. a-year, because in case of such a
result the Crown would be in possession of other
funds of indefinite extent.

The CHANCELLom of the EXCUEOU BR observed,
that $l4 an earnest of what might be expected, by
'pursuing the inquiry recommended, four Gentle-
men on the oupo%lte side had expressed their senti-
ments, each holding out an arrangement something
different, and rack bring incoLaistent with himself.
—(A lailk.)—tho the other side IP was proposed
to P.rliament to continue that system which had
been for some years in operation— ( /augh)—which
by experience was well understood to be far
brtter thou any of their newfangled plank—
( Laegltfer.)—He felt that veneration for the old
system, with its antiquated garb, which would not
suffer bun to overturn it to suit the views of mo-
dern convenience. The experience of some years
had shewn the revenue settled in 1816 ►o be side.
quate to the support of the Crown, sod that settle-
ment was Ives than the expenditure of some preced-
ing years by 135,0001. This was now proposed to be
renewed; 438,0001. had been taken from the allow.
one's for the Civil List in 1816, in consequence of
the late King'. demise, and transferred to the Conso-
lidated Fund. The Hight Hon. Gent. defended the
conduct of Government iu the year 1801, in re-
spect of the vessels of the Northern Powers, and
after some further remarks said, he had no objec-
tion to lay before Parliament an account of ell these
Drum from the year 1764 to the present time.
Sir Josapa Yoaxa said, that be was one of
those who were most glad to he able In give their
support to Ministers, but till someauswer was given
to the arguments on the opposite side of the House,
he felt himself obliged, us an independent Member
of Perliamesst, to vote for the Committee.
Lord A. HAMILTON spoke in support of the
motion.

Mr. B. BATHURST opposed the motion.
Mr. BROUGHAM. in reply, said, that with all
respect fur the Right Hon. and Hun. Members who
had spoken on the opposite side of the House, he
had heard nothing satisfactory in answer to the
reasons lie hod urged for the adoption of his mo-
tion. He had been greatly surprised at not hoeing
heard those Law Officers of the Crown, who were
ae great an o►nament of the Crown as its d►oits.—
/A bash/—ha Ind also been surprised st the ob.
mace of Se Hors. sod Learned Friend of his

(Sir C. Robinson, we undetstood), vibe dealt pe-
cat:laity in questions of Adiasirnlty ; Isut more than
till lad he been disappointed in not having the pre-
sence. littlest before the time of giving his vote
-!--(4 hsegh)—of a Leer.ied Judge (Sir W. Scott),
who presided over prise cases. and of whose tempo.
rel authority and duties, Prise and proits of A dont-
nol ty, formed part and p tree, er-lficio.—(4 laugh.)
If that Right flan. Gen!. had been to the House he
"multi have gone into many view. 01 the queldjogi,
fiom which he had abet/tined. Ile had a host of
high authorities to lorroluce ; still the Hight Hon.
Gentleman's übsenee had ohligefl limo to Implores,
li quotation horn Vattell. Who could tell what
effect those statements which lie had made
might have had upon the mind of the Right flo-
nouruhle anal Leering' Judge if he had been
present iii the llospe diming the early part of the
disconlon ? He, however, knew ‘...e1l how iv vete.
rate were the judicial habits of the Learned Judge
—useful they were to this country. and aflame slid,
to its character, and highly gratifying they !ver
proved to the House whenever he chose to tent
them, hilt inveterate as those habits were. and ac.
customed, no he urn., not to decide a question with.
out hoeing heard the argnments. the House must,
is the present instance he deprived of the advantage of bay.
lug his vote. The Chancellor of the Exchequer Complained
warmly that the picsent motion one not cousisteat with the
old practice. 'lli, t Eight Hun. Gentleman, by opposing it,
was desirous of appeeriug as the antiquated persoo•—(tfirrr,
hear, and a tisph )—'is the character of the olden time, to
which himself and his lion. Colleague were so lewd of allud-
ing. The flight Honourable Geutleinan hed accused him
or being an lunovator, an enemy to established forms; but
never del be express himself as that Right Hon. Gentleman
had done 'woo this delicate subject. The Right Hon. Gen-
tleman, spoke of the glorious victory obtained by Lord
Nelson at Copenhagen, and of the '• happy change which
hail about that time taken place in ihe Runiau Government."
He would not press upon the Right Hain. Gentleman the ad-
vantage which be knew would readily have been taken of
him, had be ventured to notice the revolution tu Russia,
tarried by such means as the aseessinatioe of the Emperor
Paul in such terms." Had I," said Mr. brougham, " extolled
that deed, I know well that • Right Hun. Gentleman op-
posite would gladly pomace upon rue with all the brilliancy
of wit and flash of eloquence which be is so well capable of
throwing round any subject, and in the fearful exercise of
the Right Houmirable Gentleman's force, 1 must have been
weil high annihilated "—(Hear, hear.)—That Right Hon.
Gentleman alluded to the President of the United States,
and seemed to insiuuate that he was desirous of reducing the
King of Great Britain to the condition of that Magistrate;
but in this the Right Hun. Gentleman very much mistook
his expressions. He happened to my that in other mien-
tries there existed no difficalty with Keret to ascertaining
the actual expenses of the Government distiuct from the
Mbar expenses incident to the Royal person, and referred to
other countries where there was no venerable Civil List to
throw • gloom and a mystery aver the entire matter. Anima;
these were the United States of America, and epos this ex-
teniple the Right Hon Gentleman pounced, forgetting, how-
ever, that he (Mr. B.) knowing the danger he was its if be
should leave so accessible • point open, had takes ears to
fortify himself with two batteries, sod bad at the mat leo-
meet brought as examples two other countries with customs
&sold and as venerable as could be desired, namely, the Kis(
of France and the Stadilsolder of Holland —(Hear./—But
spa the unftwilunete President of the United Stater did the
Might Hon. Gentleman peewee, end on him bang his joke,
(reunite, or argument, or whatever the House might please
to call ii—it was about as much of one as soother—(Laspli-
for and opplanse.)--Then came, as usual, a tirade about
stripping from the King the garments, or drapery of royalty,
all ter tee reepos• of areweding him !brooch Ole
sides of President Monroe.--(Hese, hest, sear.)—The
La"
Right Hou. Gentleman load argued on the advantage of
leaving these droits to the Crown, as offerieg the beet secu-
rity for the preservation of peace, and alluded, is support of
his doctrine to the sreangentent respecting the seizure of the
contraband of war is 1709. Bet could it be supposed that
it the beeelieial interests to the droll, were placed in the
people, represented by the House el Comm..., the people
would be ready to rush into a wee, sad undergo all its
imermousexpease, namely in the here of obtaining prize-
money to the amount of 600,0991. or even 1,000,0001. which
would be to their expenses as • drop of water in the ocean?
Would not the argument be infinitely stronger if applied to
the Crown, and the chances of war be much increased, if
the Crown possessed the Groats ?—(Hear, kern.)—He was
truly concerned that he had per entertain nsentimsed the
some of • Noble Lord as bolding • peasiuu from the Crown.
He understood that while be was oat of the House, an
Honourable relative of the Noble Cord gave au exple-
cation of the circumstance, and that the pension had
been given up. He was rejoiced that it was so, but
lie should sincerely lament that if in consequence of
his unfortunate notice of it, he should lose the vote and sup-
port of the Hon. Member, especially as the Hon. Heather
had on a former occasion given his support to a similar
motion. One word more, he begged to say, in explanative
of the nature of this question, which seemed to have been
misrepresenter'. This motion was dot for an inquiry into the
funds is etituting the Civil List, but it was with a view to
the establishment of a Civil List. He bad been scraped of
inconsimeneya it desiriag to enter into • minute inquiry into the
funds belonging to the Crown, which 'would occupy much time,
considering that previous to the dissolution of the last Par-
liament hr had desired to hurry the Civil List through the
House within one fortnight. This, however, was nut the
case; he sever wished to have the subject hurried through
Parliament; it was with the Right HoteGent. opposite, slid
his colleagues, that the inconsistency lay, for they had re.
fused to enter upon the question during the last Parliament,
wide/ the pretence that the House mild not then pay suf-
ficient attest ion to the subject ; and now that there was
every disposition to canvass it anxiously and carefully, the
Ministers of the Crown were the fist to prevent it.—
(Hear.)—But who wanted to confine the question to tete
fortnight ? Were there not six months provided by law
for the discussion, but the Right Hon.Gruilemaa would not
take adimatage orates.? The preseut milieu was, however,
stigmatised as an innovation, a disrespect to the Crown--
an Ainevirontres, and not consistent with the" olden time,"
and yet the only reason alleged against it was, that it would
occupy some time, not exceeding at the utmost three or
four weeks. " I am accused," said Mr. Brougham, " or
wishing to tear away the ornaments and drapery of the
Crown, and of desiring to exhibit our Sovereign as
' a stipendiary Kier, on board wages, who might dine
at a chop-house, sad be stinted to a. mach meat as
be could devour.' Aye, these were the words, hut, Sir,
they never passed my lips; they are far too indelicate
IN me to use.—/Lars( eheertup.)—No man wan ever inure
sincerely desirous tikes lam of upholding the dignity of the
Crown. and I am the last man in the House who wonld de-
prive the Severely'', *hem 1 lysergic, of one clammier.
that acrid contribute to his personal gratification, or take
away one ray of real splendour from die Throne, let-stre it
is returned to the Known-, in as increase of stability so the
Institutions which secure our hangmen.. I would much
rather give an additional tea thousand pounds a year le be
expended in contributing to the Mosealieh's comfort, than 1
world leave less than half that sum to he disposed of in the
heads of his Ministers for the purposes of oorneption.—.
fileer.)—lliese are my principles; they are such as I have
ever held. sad are well foseided, for they are she result of
whoever moldy I have been enabled to bestow upon the ineoi-
nations °fumy country. An Hon. Member, who spoke epos this
subject, with, perhaps, no dineoution of advantage from net
having expressed himself very plainly, with vehemence ex-
ulained against my tearing away the splendour of the Crewe,
We may Wore Cosomitters coolish to inquire into the minute
expeotees of the Sovereign, bite the quantities of meet,
and breed, aad better, be may one, but Of any this, alba-
lag the patronage of the Crown he reposed, we bear it in.
meetly exclaimed, Goad God! how eat yea preempt It
separate the Repel Pewees from UM venerable eppen.
doges that add se mama to Ws hoomse aid etitedr
bow sail you be as hard-hearted as to dissever him from

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the Ciispleis, of the Tower, with his salves• e• thin le Aso:-
hags a sem.., from the M f the Hash sloe keep r
of the SVihl Beasts, the blaster of the Cereatuntss, and tion..e
other anemone snot equally iinportaset, spletor,al. mod, use
doubt, right ble personages, wills whom., from the
olden liter; his Plate has been solowited re-( fouispifer:--..
The Hon. allensher then implored ihe Muse to act with bare-
ness and dia Poe ChtsseeHor of the Ettoth. q tooll resole
an offer that Ulu SCl'Olllllll •f she receipts mid eltsheroe.
c- sits of the Moils should eery roar be lei!! before par:" t.
merit ; but this was, in feel, greeting nollsiong; lacrosse ,o
enneetpirnee of sit arrengemerat insole uo thst head •Oh
Mr. Y• reveal, sorb seesaw's should maw be on 1!•e
table, if any Geodes*. Showiest prover, to most loe
them. The present niument being the ~,,, ineuesonoe'e
of a new reig o, was the Feuer lan, (or the oto.t•
of these dunes, As it was the perupl.tu • lock .Loy.
who wished to inquire into them were umforrol, iarr.i .1.
These duties t eglit prove • lemitlation to bad Alioleteo..,
or to bad Kings, to plunge nuweeesserity into war. They a.•. ••
ouneressery toward. aisoontsining the oltptily Of the Cruwoo,
whirl, vas at all times Inseparable from the humour sod
elovolty of the nation. the dignity of the a'runoo c uld tar WM
br more a fr,rtwally pursued than by strictly "-girding Oho
interests of the country it. gram!, and i• upon
the gratitude and Sffectium of the people. (The lion. Crafts-
men sat damn amidst load app ladss
Mr. %Vest, su explanstsuo, said, that his vote en a
furcate occasineo, to whirl Mr. brougham had alltiotorils
gave that Gentleman no right to expect his sepp tea ram Ibis
sereasion.
Mr. BiIIOOGNIAN expressed his regret et wort finvinly the
Hon. Gentleman's sa mat, and expleigiedi that noy rutv who
sub ol egotism the former routine, talk very safely mole on
favour of the present.
The Gellery was then cleared fur a division, when there
appeared—
Fur the motion
Against it. 273
Majority for 10l belittle
• Durkee our exetwoon from the gallery we understood the
Report of the Committee of Supply (Civil List) was hrougett
up, and order. d to by taken into further entoseihersisuis on
blooday next.
The ugh,' orders ottloe Illy were then disposed of, and the
House adjuurued to Moods,.

MINORITY
01 MR. 1110I1011AM.11 MOTION 01 :Is atom et
ADMIRALTY.

Abereromby, Ho. ). Polkas, Siv M. Pares, Thos.
Allen, J. Gordon, Robert Parnell, Sir 14.
Althorp, Via Graham, J. G R. Phillips, G.
Anson, Sir G. Graham, S. Phillips, 6 jun.
Aubrey, Sir J. Grenfell, Pawns Power, R.
A.trll, Wm. GritSibs, J. W. Po*leit, Hon. W.
Barlett, John Guise, Sir W. Fyn), Francis
Betiiiiirk, Li;rd W. Gurney, H. Ricardo, D.,' id
Bunghton, R. Gainey, R. H. Roll sy, Sir Si. W.
Haughey, Sir John GaAsII, B. Rubarts, Alts.
11.!grave, Via. Hamilton, Lord A. !lobar's George
Barham, J. F. Ilarhord, Hun. E. Robinson, Sir G.
Barham, J. F. sen. Harvey, D. W. Hawley, S i• W.
Haring, Sir Thos. Hestheme, G. S. Runiludil, C.
Barnard, VW. Hero. Sir R. Russell, Lord C W.
Barrett, S. M. Hill, Lord A. Russell, Lord John
Beaumont, T. W. Hobbouse, J. C. Russell, R. S.
Benyon, Ben. Howard, Hon. W. Bickford, Wm.
Bernal, Ralph Hereby, E. Smith, Hun. IL
Birch, Jos. Hunywood, H. P. South, Sinnott
Brougham, H. Hughes, Col. Smith, John
Bury, Vise. Hume, Jot. Smith, George
Byug, George Hurst, R. Smith, Robert
Bright, H. Haldinsond, W. Smith, Wm.
Ca{craft, John Jervoise, G. I'. &orbit, James
Caleraft, John H. Kennedy, T. F. Sendamosr, A. P.
Campbell, Hus.J. Luskin', J.G. Sews, Earle
Chaerbeflarae, W. Lemon, Sir W. Sts.iley, Lord
Carter, John Lushingion, S. Stuart, Lord!.
Cavendish, Lord G. Langstone, J. H. Sykes, I).
Cavendish, Henry Lloyd, S. J. ttpurricr, C:
Clifford, Aug. Mackintosh, Sir J. Scott, J.
Clifton, Via. Madueks, W. A. Tavistutk, Martini*
Coke, T. W. Martin, John Taylor, M. A.
Colborne, N. R. klilbsusk, Mark Taylor, C. V.
Com:anon, L Ali tiffany, P. Si. J. Tierney, Rt. Fln. C.
Coussmaker, G. hlilitin, Vas. Tremayne, J. H.
Crompton, Sam. Mona, J. B. Towushend, Lord C.
Cadre's, Nie. Moore, Peter Worn, J. Ashley
Davies, T. H. Madre, A. Weblw, E.
Dc Crespigny, Sir W.Musiyis, Sir T. Western, C. C.
Denman, Thos. Maberly, John ‘Vhitbreod, W.
Moks, C. Moberly, J. S. Whitbread, S.C.
Duncanuou, Vic Marryatt, Jos. Wilkins, Waller
Evans, Win. Mallon, Hun. S. Williams, T. tz,
Ellice, Ed. Neville, Hon. R. Williams, W. •
Ferguson, Sir R. Newman, R. W. William+, Sir R.
Fitzgerald, Lord W.Nt wport, Sir J. Wilson, Sir RAW.
Fetsroy, Lord J. Nugent, Lord Wood, Alderman
Folketune, Vic Ord, W
Franklanil, R. Osborne, Lord F. TICLLERII.
•
Farrow', R. Onnilstiou, Vi.. Bennett, Hun. H. G.
Findlay, K. Palmer, C. F. Illsedoissid, James

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A correspondent in the, Worcester Joanna/ ob.
serves, that the quantity of elvers destroyed at this
season is incredible. A few days ego, in pealing
between Negriilium and Gloucester. he sow 20 men
employed in catching them. several of whom had
got five bushel sacks full of them. ft is said the,
are used to feed pigs. This is a subject worthy of
attention. As the elvers only "ippon. la a few weeks
at tins seams of the year. their destruction might
be prevented at a small expellees tiod 11109'4 the
missatry would be eeigiliod with eels he great alma.
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