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HousE UV LORDS.
MONDAY. YES. t 7. 1
LonIeaDESDALL presented a petition fret., the artisans
and tradesmen of Witham, pra:, ing lot the estab;Lhruent of a
Court for the recovery of *mall debts.
INSOLVENT DEBTORS' ACT.
- The Marquis of lAN SDOW N E presented a petition from
the manufacturers, tradesmen, and other inhabitants of Sheptun
Mallet, praying for the repeal of the Insolvent Debtors' Act.—
The noble marquis, in presenting this petition, intimated that
be did nut consent to the prayer for repealing the Act, because be
had always felt that the principle of Lessio Holmium was meg
salutary. Ile was ready to admit that great frauds had crept Is
wader the Act, and that tradesmen ought to be protected, hut
that prole uon might be atLrded without the repeal of the bill.
Tile petition was lead, and laid on the ta,„le.
Thee Earl of TANK ERV li.LE presented a petition from Sir
John IVrottealey, Hart. against the Merriam Act. 'the noble
taut adverted to several Utfocts in the bill, and expressed a hope
that Parliament would lose to time in making that best of all
boon*' a fixed law of marriage, as perfect as possible.
Leith ELLIIINSUIUMGH expressed hie regret that so much
inconvenienne should bate been the resitlt of the Act as to twat-
stun Mie.ollMlller of . on the table. lt. was a matter of
cumplaitet diet no IM. lord Mu' risen when the bill was
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discussed, be Want which might have induced the
house to Meld thew inereefections which became the cause of
e snplait.
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Curd STOWELL said,.lie did not think even persons of the
legul profession were aware of all the inconveniences produced
by de. bill. They were certainly not cargnieent of many known
to ecclesiastical persona.
The petition was read. and laid on the table.
Lord STOWELL. then drew the attention of the house to the
east imperious/x(l(We subject, and, with &view so the establish-
ment of a consistent legislative provision. moved, *. 'flint a
cummittee be appointed to take WO consideration the present
awe tit the law relative to marriage, sad whether any, and "mat
measures, are necessary tu remedy the same, and to report
dictum to the house."
Loud IiLLENBOROUGH seconded the motion, and declared
he had great pleasure in contemplating the benefit which must
reault from the noble andlearned lord's =diatom to settle the
gamma.
After a few observations from the Loma CHANCELLOR, the
motion wro agreed to, and the following I .ords apprentol to act
in the CO4 11111 l !ACC AldlUlolop. of Canterbury. the Lord
Chancellor, Lord Stuwe.i, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Earl
of Liverpooi, Lord EUenborousli, Lord Retleadale, and the Earl
of Shaftesbury.
I Anil ELI. EN BO ILO UGII then moved that the Marriage Act
Amendment Lid! be read tire isecoud tune tdis day lorlanelm—
Ortierial.
AGRICULTURAL. PETITIONS.

Lord SUFFIELD parented A petition from the nobility,
clergy, and gentry, of the hundred uS Lrpinghani, in the
county of No/dolk. complaining of agricultural Maness, praying
tor safaris, and disenduung all yarucipation in the pato:Wings
at the Norfolk meeting. '1 he petition WAS signed by two bun-
.tr.sl pergola. they prayed pAoticulialy fur a repeal of the malt
tax. The noole earl, on presenting this petition, profassed him-
self an advocate fur rennin, and said he would undertake to
wake the Bistropg converts to the doctrine of r‘forni on ren-
s ems grounds.
The petition was read, and laid on the table.
Lord sUFFIELD also presented a similar petition from the
hundred bt Greenhue, in the county of Norfolk, winch was lead
and laid on the table.
AUSTRIAN I.OAN.

The 'Marquis of LANaDOAY NE said. it was well known to
the house that large some of the public money, in the shape of
:alas, had been lavished on foreign powers. In consequence of
rant:ceilings in Parliament on tins subject, assurances had been
jelbcd that the le-payment of the Austrian loan would be nego-
dated at the Cungi ear of Velona. Ile wished, therefore, to ask
the-noble lord whether lie was enabled. to state die result of any
such negociation, and whether any hope was field out of the re-
payment of the sum b 0 lung due to this country.
lite Earl of I .1V ERPOOL said, it was nut hiaintection to
enter into the tpitstion now lar aunts of money had been lavished
by this country on foreign powers. livery transaction of that
suit must stand on its own bottom. lie would, however, say,
that the advance of large sums bad preserved the liberty of
liii-
rpc against the greatest tywinnv that ever existed. Tate noble
c.. 1 then stated, that a discussiou had taken place with a view to
hie settlement of the questiuu alluded to. by. the noble marquis,
and the Governmern hatl conic to atharrangement with the Go-
vernment el Vienna. kle had no difficulty its adding,. Max the
airangenient had been agreed ta, and his lordship esteemed a
hope that ire should be able soon to state to the house the precise
conditions of the arrangement.
lord ELLENBOROUGH observed, that he could never bring
his mind to believe British subloidmiluid promoted public liberty '
—he believed, on the contrary, that it had enabled certain. powers
to set up the must detestable ty anny in the world.
Earl DARNLEY asked whether die measures intended for
the benefit of Ireland wage to be brought lit tail by die noble
ea,l in lb is house.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, the measures applicable to
that part of the United kingdom woulld originate in the other
House of Parliament.
TUC house then adjourned.
'CURSORY, FE). le.
On the motion of the Earl of siIAfi'IESBUILY, it was or-
dered that no petition tor innate !kits should be received atter
the R4th of Marche and no report of the Judges on private bills
should be received after the 2‘..1 of April.
A person from the Treasury presumed certain annual AC`
counts.—Adjourned till to-morrow.
WEDNESDAY. PEI. 19.
The LORD CHANCELLOR heard appeals.
The Rattrap of CIIES'I'EII intimated that he gave notice last
IMAM of Parliament, of his intention to bring in a bill to amend
time Act of George IL respecting the Solemnisation of Marriage.
Tut subject would probably occupy die attends:toot' the Com-
mittee on the Marriage Law ; anti should that be die case, his
trimmer would he untieoesaary. The bill it was his intention to
introduce would nos insatiate with the form of marriage, but
make a regulation wan respect to places where marriage is
toletneizerl. In some places of worship. haniely, Chapels of
Esse. marriages could not take place, and the object would be to
give &Minty and publicity to marriage, by permitting the solem-
nization in places where, as the law stood, no solemnisation can
tire place. lithe Committee made die measure unnecessary,
would be a source of satisfaction ; if not, he should bring in

• bill.
Lord REDESDALIE presented a petition from Beaconsfield,
in Essex, against the Small Debts Bill.
Karl DARNLEY presented a petition from New Bolton,
against tie insolvent Debtors' Act.
The Archbishop of CAN7'EIIBURY brought in a bill to
make certain marriages good, where licenses were obtained con-
trary to law. The Marriage Act passed with so much rapidity,
as to outrun all precaution which ought to have been given to
Surrogates, so that they granted licenses in some instance con-
trary to the provision* of the Act. Persons contracted marriage
ignorant of the irregularity, and this hill Wil4 to itiptilftt such
marriages. Ilia Grace moved the bill be rcud the first tune..—lt
was accordingly read.
Viscount SIUMOUTki presented two petitions (tole the
elitgy of Norwich, agetriat the Marrteipi Act.—Real, attil laid
ea he table.

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A Report fruell theOesuaossioners of the Harbour of New
Shoreham was presents! as the Bar, and laid on the table.
Adjourned.
TIIURSDAY, TED. !a

The Earl of DARNLEY prestottril • petition from Blackburn
against the Insolvent Debtor's Act.
The Earl of SITAFTESBURY presented a similar petition
from Bevil ley.
Both petitions were read and laid on the table.
Mr. Payne prestnted the Iteptut of the Commissiorr-
Thames Navigation.
The Marquis of I ANSDOW NE seeing a noble Earl (Liver •
pool) in his place, observed, that it was his intention to-morrow,
to put a kw questions =Tutting Foreign Itelatious.reserving the
riot of making any 111011011 winch the answer to his questions
might suggest.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said it would be inconvenient to
answer the noble Alarquis'ir enquiries to-morrow.
Tile 'Marquis of LANSI)O W NE then named Monday, which
was. hied lot the intended interrogation.
Fite House, on the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL, ad-
journed to Biondi:.

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HOUSE OF COMMONS.
MONDAY, FF.U. 17.
Mr. Scarlett took the oaths and his seat as Member for
Peterborough.
Sir G. CLERK, gavot Notice, that on Friday lie should, in a
committee of supply, move the vote for the seamen.
Colour! BAGNELL presented a petition from Tipperary,
prayin,, fur a commutation of 'plies.
Mr. 711. DAVIS 'Presented two petitions from Bristol against
the Insolvent Debtor's Act.
Sir T: LEITH:MIDGE said, that it would be impossible for
such Act to exist much longer.
Mr. BRIGHT also spoke of tie Act in its present form,
particularly against the multiplication of oaths on subjects
where men ought not to be trusted.
Petition teed and ordered to he printed.
Other petitions against the lusulieut Debtors' Act were pre-
seuted from Gloucester, &c.
Mr. RICE pcesenled a petition from Carmarthen, complain-
ing of agricultural distress, for the reduction of taxes, Sic.
Mr. HUME said the hon. member had not hither., sup-
ported tho reduction of taxes ; mid it would therefore be de-
sirrble to know what course he intended to pursue 1 Dial he
intend to support the petition ?
Mr. Hlt E thought this rather an extraordinary coarse I.
pursue ; he should do as he had done, give his votes on the
questions as they arose.
Petition read and ordered to be printed.
Mr. BYNG °blighted leave to bring in a bill to amend the
Bethnal Green Act.
The LORI) MAYOR moved, that Sir Wm: Curtis have
leave of absence for one mouth, ou account of serious inc"-
positiOll.—Granted.
Mr. I'. GRENFELL gave notice, that to-morrow he should
move fur Accounts of the MUMS paid to the Batik for the Ma-
negement of the public debt.
Accounts respecting the Holyhead Harbour Expenses, &c.
were ordered to he submitted to the House.
Mr. A IigaCHOMBY moved for the return. in Borthwiok's
case at Glasgow..-Ordered.
The Sberitts presented the petition of the city of London in
Common Council assembled, praying for Reknit.
Mr. Alderman WOOD said, that the petition had been de-
layed on account of the absence of some of the Ministers All
of them were re elected, and some of them were recently in
the Rouse. Without doubt they were now nut (as off, and
while it was reudirg perhaps they would return. The petition
came from a body thut bad nut al a Sys been trestrd with the
greatest courtesy, though the corporation was of the greatest
importance and merited attentiou.—The Petition p.syed for
camel:my ; and it was much required, as the inhabitants of
London experienced dilliculties which equalled those com-
plained of by the Agriculturists. It also called for Reform,
for an extension of the people's saffaige; and the elections in
the City of London to the Common Council, showed that there
was no reel ground for apprehending danger from the extension
of the people's right to vote for their representatives. He
should move that the petition he read at length ; he thought he
should not be perforating his duty except be pursued sods
couree.—(Hear, hear !).
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The clerk at his table then read the petition ; Mr. Canning,
Mr. Peel, Mr. Lesbington, Mr. F. Robinson, Mr Wynn, &e. I
were on the treasury bench.
Mr. T. WILSON was favourable to the prayer for economy,
—but as to the subject of reform, be should attend to it *Leo-
ever it was brought forward.
Lord .1. RUSSELL said, that to-morrow he should move for
a committee to enquire into the charters and rights, by whit*
rem g otkcers returned members to that House. On tlitt
2ilh•of April be should bring forward the vitalism of Partite-
mem ev •form. Be was glad to see the growing. interests
that the enlightened cl took in reform. In a few days lb
Yorkshire petition was signed by near 20,000 persons. Thal
wero some of the lively sparks, emitted by the " dying emboss
of reform•"—(Cheers.).
The petition was. m tiered te-he printed.
FORLICM ESLISTM EST.—Lord ALTHORP Bare notice,
that on 'I hursday ae'nnigbt he alt old move the repeal of tie
Foreign Enlistment Act.—(Herr, hear! )
Sonia.—Mr. F ROBINSON moved that the lions. I&
int a committee of supply.
Mr. CR EbT Y could nut but first obs...rve on the matter a
course manner in which applications of supply was made.—
Wby were sinecures to be continued for privileged orders ?
(Hear ! )—They could not shut their ears against what was
said out of doors ; that ii'revolution iu property was going Gs,
and that a scramble was to he apprehended. They heard of no
office that in former times was not dreamt of ; there was, for-
sooth, " the Manager of the Ilouse of Commons." In Lord
Bacon's time, the idea of a manager was ridiculed as chime
rice!. But now the cards in that were packed ; they had *9
court cards, that cost the country 110,0001. anunallY. H.
concluded with untiring as an amendment, that it be an instruc-
tion to the committee to take into consideration the grievances
of the people.
Ali. CANNING said, that if any distinct grievances were
alleged, the House would cnosidur them: but the motion be
could not understand; howtem, he could not but condemn the
allusions that had been made to the executive, after the great
sacrifices made made by his Majesty to assist the public ser-
vices,—(Hear. hear!)
Mr. W. LAMB said, no comparison could be made between
the present period and the little liberty they enjoyed in Elias-
bell's and oilier reigns.
Mr. HUME declared that the former reigns, when the
country was in difficulty, particularly Queen Anne, the Crown
lands bad been offered to aid the public service. ♦ treaty bad
been made with the crown on the accession of Geo. 111. re-
specting the crown revenues, but it bad been evaded. To
show the is/Bence of ministers, cr the corruption of inctiei.

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duals who were some Low or another connected with that
Monde, he would only advert to thelittle attention paid to the
almost aniesimous voice respecting Receivers General, scarcely
any saying having beer ellacted, notwithstanding one year had
elapsed.—Amemenieut negatived.
j Tile House went into the comuiiitte or supply.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQLER, moved the
grants ut 34,000,d001. Eachesuer Bills 12,00,0001. to make
good Lille of last semi and 144,0001. fur public: works.
churches, litc.—Agreed to. Report on Wednesday.
Howie adjourned.
TUESDAY, FED. 18.
Mr. Mnakiasoo and Mr. Arbuthnot took tbe oaths and their
seats..
Mr. WYVIL presented a petition from bankers, merchants.
&c. of York, against the insolvent Debtor.' Act ; and
petitions were presented from Shrpion-Mallett, &to
Sir T. 'mail Bkt LUCE said, that though he should support.
be had no inlet:llion to bring in, a bill to support the Insidreot
Debtor' Act.

Yeti►ioaa, praying an alteration of the Marring* Act. were
presented from Walton, Bedford, &c.
Mr. SKEFFINGTON moved for copies of various corres-
pondence between the Castle of Dublin and the Colonels of
Irish,lililis, in 1822 ; Keinunstrsoces, &c.
Mr. Alderman WOOD enquired wbether any pert of the
money voted last session, for building a new Insolvent Debtors'
Court, bad been issued. If nut,. he hoped it would not be
issued.

Mr. HERRIES said, that a portion. had heels issued ; *bat
a house bait been purchased : that plans bad been submitted
and that when any thing was decided upon, the result should
be stated. lie then presented the return of barley, wheat, &us
previously ordered.
Lord ALTHIRP rose to make his motion for the move
effectual recovery of small debts. He was glad to bear that
• there was no opposition to bis motion. The present espences
of recovering swill debts were enormous, and operated to
produce considerable wrong. lie had various propositions to
make, but he thought the better souse to pursue would be,
to refer the matte, to a secret committee, and he therefore
moved for a select committee.
Mr.IVARRE with pl seconded the motion.
Mr LITTLETON 'approved of the motion ; the p t
' mode of recuveliug small debts was most oppressive. H.
feared Ihrt there would be considerable objections on the part
of the magistrates to take on thentsedves a summary jurirdio-
tion in the case of small debts, as was the case in Scotland.
Motion agreed to ; committee appointed.
CaTiloLle Qt7rsTfori.—Sir J. NEWPORT said, the ques-
tion respecting the slide of Ireland was so imperfectly moiler-
stood, that the soupiest opportunity for discussion ought to be
stioided ; and Ise therefore hoped that the right hon.,,,entleunte
(Mr. Plunkett) would postpone the motion till after the recess.
Mr. CANNING joined Ins wish to that just expressed, to
postpone the motion , it had no chance of being so fairly heard
as might be desired ; but would be mixed up with temporary.
lie trusted, transitory occurrences.—(Hear, hear.)—He hoped
Lis right hon. friend would consent to postpone the motion.
Mr. PLUNKEfT said he should not shrink from giving to
the House and the country the amplest information respecting
some resent attaire.—(ilear.)--As to the question, he should
acquiesce in the request made; lie was satisfied, that under
the existing uofortuuate circumstances, it could not be fairly
discussed. He postponed it till the 17th of April.
Sir E. KNXICHBULL moved that the call of the House
be postponed till April IL—Agreed tu.
Lord J. RUnSELL postponed his motion respecting corpo•
rate powers to return members till Thursday.
Mr. GOIJLBIJRN moved fur leave to bring in a bill to re-
duce the Irish Staff.
Mr. HUME wished to know the amount of the contemplated
saving.
Mr. GOULBURN said such saving would be to the amount
of 30,13001.
Mr. SKEFFINGTON wished the documents ihustrative of
the Irish Militia, &c. to be laid before the House previously
to the secoad reading of the bill.

Mr. BAGWELL spoke of the breach of faith that would
tbas.be inaloted o• the proposed victims of the contemplated
bill, and it wasH be is the teeth. of as Act of 1817. Had they
been dismissed at the ineselesioisof the war,. they would have
been ridded to balf-pay ; bet now, in.eossequence of subse-
quent regulations, they would not have web resources. Dia-
missions bad taken plane, and they were told they would be
employed in the police ; bet when they appeared at the Cacti.
hundreds of them were 'ejected as not wanted. The measin•
would be a most nejnat one.
Mr. PEEL thought these remarks might have been post-
poned, especially as papers were to be submitted to the House.
If there were bad faith in the bill, there had been like liresela
of faith towards the English militia ; and .the accusation i.t-
volved a charge against 31 colonels in Ireland, who had con-
sented to the reductions—the bon. member and six of his col-
leagues only having protested against the reductions. There
was no ground for the charge of bad faith. And as to the
proceedings in 1817, it was expressly slated that " at present'
reductions were not contemplated, implying that they might
take place.
Lord PALMERSTON said, that similar redactions in the
English militia had taken place is ISM—Motion agreed to.
Mr. P. GRENFELL brought forward his promised motion
respecting what was Galled the Management of the Publio
Debt. The average deposits were for many yeses about 12
millions, and the advantage to the Bank was between five and
six hundred thousand pounds ; and all that they did for it was
in the nature of an ordinary banking trausaction—tbere was
no extra trouble dist would not have been amply repaid by
10,0001. a year. lle concluded with moving lot returns of
the balruces in the bands of the Bank, &o.
Mr. F. ROBINSON said, when the papers were prodoeed,
be should be prepared to meet any proposition that might be
made ; and diet he should not pledge himself to any particular
cuurse.—Ordered.
On the presenting of the Supply Report,
Mr. lit_ ME asked whether there was any in - is con-
templation to guard the public against the losses sustained by
the Savings Banks ; those Bunks. having 4i per cent while the
Gov-eminent had only 3 per cent. Thus there was a treat lose
to the public.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that
be really bed not bad time to attend to such sabject—it un-
doubtedly merited attention—Report agreed to.
House ordered to go Into a Committee of Ways and Means
to.morrow.
The remaining business haring
been disposed of the House
adjourned.

WEDNLSDAY, FED. 19.
Mr. BROGDEN brought in the Plymouth Gas Light Bill.—
Rerd a hist lime.
Lord DEERHLRST presented a petition from Worseau
against the Insult rat Debtors' Ant.

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