The National Register.
London, England, 1819-11-29 00:00:00

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OTISL OP LORDS.
tit:l/DAY. NOV. 23.
OPENING or PANLIAMENT•
This being the day appointed tor the meeting or Parliament.
the Prince lte gent entered the Douse of Peers at two o'clock.
icd having taken his scat oti the Throne delivered the following
gracious t•peecli
L.rda, and Goal( nicn.

It is with great concern that I am again obliged to announce
to you the continuance of His Majeatio lamented indUpobi-
{km

I regret to have been under the necessity of calling you toge-
M►rr yt this period of the year ; but the seditious practices so
long prevalent, io sonic of the manufacturing districts of the
armory base been continued with increased activity since you
lt Ile lust assembled in. parliament.
'Chey b.tve led to proceeding, incompatible with the public
tranquillity and with the peaceful habits of the industrious classes
at the co.litiointty and a spirit is fatly manifested. utterly hos-
tile to the Consmution of this Kingdo.ti, and aiming not only at
the change of those poltical institutions which have hitherto
constituted the pride and security of this Country. but at the
Subversion of th. ILizlits of property, and of all order in
staiety.

I have given directions that the necesiary information on this
subjezt shall be laid before you; and I feel it my indispensable
duty to press on your immediate attention the consideration of
such incasurcs as may be requisite for the counteraction and sup-
pression of a system which, if not effectually checked, must
bring confusion and ruin on the nation.
Got/kitten if t/ic Huns,: o Co,itaous.

The estimates for the ensuing year will be laid before you.
The nec,:ssity of affording protection to the lives and property
of his Majesty's loyal subjects has compelled toe to make sonic
addition to our military force ; but I have no doubt you will be
of opinion that the arrangements for this purpose have los n
effected in the manner likely to be the least buithensume to the
rummy.

Althotig!l the revenue has undergone some fluctuation since the
&se of the last Session of Parliament, I have the satisfaction of
being able to Miami you, that it appeals to be agaiu in a course
of prowvb.irk: iniptusement,
Sour.: depression still continues to exist in certain branches of
Our manufactures, and I deeply lament the distress which is in
consequence felt by those who more immediately depend upon
them ; but this depression is in a great measure to be ascribed to
the embarrassed situation of other countries. and 1 earnestly
hope that it will be found to be of isteunporary nature.

Jfq Lords,and Gentlentei.
I continue to receive from Foreign powers the strongest aims
?tweet of their friendly dispwitiou towards ells country.
it is my most anxious wish that advantage should be taken of
this season of peace to secure and advance our internal prospe-
rity ; but the successful prosecution of this ui,j,:ct must essen-
tially depsnil on the preservation of donne tic tranquillity.
Upon the loyalty of the great body of the peoph; I have the
most confident reliance; but it will require your utmost vigi-
lance and exertion. collectively anti individually, to check the
&nomination of the doctrines of treason and impiety, and to
mpress upon the minds of all classes of Ills Majesty's subjects.
shat it is from the cultivation of the piinciples of religion, and
trout a just subotdination to lawful Authonty, that we can alone
expect the continuance of that divine favuvr and protection
which have hitherto been so signally experienced ley this King.
dam.

The Ninee wirharew at the ern: ,union of the above. and the
house was soon after clear of the noble and elegant company
winch attended the ceremony.
Refine the I.onl Cl inccilor wijourned the I louse to five o'clock.
the Lake of Clarence and Duke of Richmond took the oaths and
tlkir

The Lord Chancellor having re,..at,sred the !louse at five
o'clock,. and taken his seat un the ‘Voui.-oek, tlte Itegent's speech
M as again read.
Lord :WAN vEas then rose to move the Address, witicli was
an echo or the %retell.
Lord CIiUKCILILL secouded the Address in a low tone of

Earl GREY said, he could not give his assent to the Address,
en the ground that neither the Address nor the Speech appearsd
calculated to produce conciliation with respect to the people.—
This House never assembled to perform its duty at a more awful
crisis. Never had the Lords assembled surrounded by greater
danger. lie toe one did nut think the line of policy adopted by
Government wart such as to enable Mtn to concur in the Address.
The Speech pre.-vnted strong and appalling statements oftlanger.
Foul practices were said to prevail, and the Noble Lord seedily
admitted the necessity of putting a stop to this dander, but not
Ly acts of military power and new laws. lie had heard coercion
recommended. but the Noble Look would rather recommend the
}loose to adopt dime measures which would relieve the distresses
of the people, by conciliation and concession. The evil arose
tout the gricvaoces of the people, oecasiotiod perhaps by a line
of policy wnisli had been too long followed. The speech from
tie Throne stared, in strong terms, the extreme difficulties of the
country, and the Subic Lord who moved the Address proposed
some strung efficient measure as a remedy.. The internal state
of the country was afflicting, lie was ready to agree, and it called
on thi. OCCUSIOII Mr the primary c.onsidemtion of Parliament.—
'rlie cause of that state of things was principally a system of
policy witicn in the eve of Pm-liament called for correction
'1 he Noble Earl was ieritly to oppose the projects of Itadical
Reformers. whe might w be considered as 'Ailing the people
to ruin ; but whilst Parliament looked at that danger with a
nererimaation to resist it. they a iouhl take care that they
did not expose the Constitution to still greater dangers.—
The Nuolu over tti the Addre:s said, the liberty of the people
fright not to inter:: re with the safety of the constitution; but
Lae safety of tile constitution depended on the preservation of
public hue: ty. ii the Noble laird said one could exist without
tie other, he was in error. '1 he situation of the country was
wily lamentable. Discontent was heard every where, and con-
sequently tile pr.nnuhmutr was that the people were badly go-
verned. It could nut be supposed that 'restyle living tinder a
not t bencticer.t government would feel any dispo itiou to rebel.
.1%-a- people of in, country would doubtJela never turn upon their
I,n:tutors. Parliament Were to say whetle.:r the disorders of
Has country were nut occasioned by genetal distress. rlaS,llls
it nave taken advantage or that distress. bat proper dis-
c, 'Mind I be rattle between those wart had 'teen intied and
treir bail advisees, lnsiul;,ence nes du.: to tile unfortunate, who
in die midst of suffers; aid cal .mots, had been led minty. A
Noble MnenJ, two soars agm.speaking on the state of the WWI-
- parted Lout Caine, who says,

THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

" The way to cure sedition is to take away the matter."

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Poverty and distress were the matter of sedition, and had Perlia-
inent eneltavaured to take away these distresses? it not
supported the Government in their efforts to impose several re•
strictive laws, some of watich broke down the bulwarks ut the
Con -motion ? Coercion hail been the policy for ycwrs past.
Little attention hiul been peiel to the real wants and grievances
of the people. One Session, iudeed, hope was euterteined that
attention would be paid to the queetion of purity of election
and the buttliens of are people, but unfortunately that hope was
destroyed. The Session pexied over, and to the disgrace of Go-
vernment and Parliament. it closed with laying on the stillie inn
people three millions of taxes. In the course of this year the
distresses increased. They had a starving population in many
of the working districts. Could it then be surprising that ex-
cessee should be committed ? Could it be a matter of surprise
that meetings should take place to promote reform in Parlia-
ment. A Meeting took place at Manchester, when dreadful
misfortunes happened. lie regretted. that in the Speech no idlu
eion had been made to inquire into those events. Ile did not
support or sanction what was termed Reifies! Reform ; at the
some time. God turbid he should prevent the people from meet-
ing to express V•eir setuiments, and endeavour to obtain a inure
perfect state of representation. The e toe which occurred at
Manchester, on the i -eh of August, was wally disgusting. and
the Noble Eail expressed a hope that such another transaction
might never disgrace a free country. The melancholy events of
th it day had pioduced notch conflicting testimony; but, in his
()Onion, there wag a prima facie case 'against the Magistrates ?
'lime mit-giant won'tl be, whether the meeting was illegal, and
that forcible means for Es suppression were justified. When
the day arrived for inquiry it would be a question whether the
means resorted to by the alegistretes were nut illegal. To justify
themselves, they must prove that nothing but the force they
employed could preserve the peace. '• If they cannot make out
that, then I say all the bloodshed rests on their guilty heads, and
that it is the duty of Parliament to wipe away time guilty stain.
I ant ready to Late the whole of the traneectiona of teat melan-
choly day until the question can be brought before Parliament ;
but there is a line of policy pursued by (Imminent on the occa-
sion which I tannot now pass over." lie did not wish to pre-
judge a question which was to come before a Court of Law, but
was surprised to hear of extra-judicial conduct from those who
recommended the Pi ince Regent to give thanks to the Magistrates
and Vemileury for the prompt milliner in which t:iey.
Lord Grey then adverted to the answer given to the City Ad-
drew. The Citizens were chastised, as it were, for ignorance of
the transactions. If they were to talk of prejudging at question,
what should they sly of the conduct of the noble Viscount and
his Colleagues, who had not only ap; roved of the conduct of the
Magistrates and Yeomen before they could tabus n correct infor-
mation, but on the evidence which they received from thou
Magistrates. they bestowed thanks and commendation equal to
any given for conquest over a foreign enemy? No sympathy was
expressed for the steering victime. Was it not a duty, in atl-
vuung the Crown to ex.reise. its high ) rerugative, to institute
enquiry into all the causes which led to intetruptionef the public
peace ? That ditty was involve on them, and the answer given
to the City of I.ondon was unjust. It there had been an abuse of
the Magisterial authority, it was the duty of the Executive Go-
vernment to prevent a repetition of hat breach of duty. llad .
they never hail proceedings extra-judicial? They bad known
imptiries going on in Parliament a 'die men were under trial tun
Digit Treason. It was shocking to common sense to tell the
people that repeat's would be published and trials take place, after
offences were commiucd. Inquiry should have been instituted
long since.. After they had been afflicted they w-'re told an exa-
rnin ttion could not be had because it was extrii.jotheial. Tory
might have recourse to justice. but Parliament could do toting
for them. Was that the mode in which the eutierings of the
people ought to be treated ? Adverting to the meeting in York.
shire, he characterised it as large, respectable, moderate, and
constitutional. They pronounced no improper opinions, and yet,
for presiding at such a meeting his Noble Friend »as dismissed
from the uihec of Cord Lieutenant of the comity. Lend Grey
stated the amiable qualities of Earl kitzwilliam, and repre-
sented him to be a neat whet of all other* was the most
proper to stand forward as a mediator between Government and
the public. lie for one could never have supposed the
government were weak enough to resort to such a proceeding—
fur what was it but saying, tiny individual, however bight in rank,
who sleet say one word againa us, shall be turned 01:c of office?
It we-s inked perseverame in a system of coercion. Ilaviag de-
precauei the proposition to relic an additional niiiiiary force of
I lOW omen, he ob'erve-d, that this country was fast approac:eing
the state and condition of Ireland. It was in a sate of sup-
pressed discontent, which would break out in violence. AGo
vemment which rested on the sword could never be free ; and if
mumblers:al, furewel the most sacred institutions. What bad
given commercial advantage. military skill, and bravery in our
fleets and &nines ? What but toe seemed spirit of treedoun, the
knowledge that we enjoy our rights aril privileges. lie appealed
to the Noble Duke, whether the free spirit of Englishmen had I
not extricated him from danger. Take away the lank of free.
don front the people. and they have no lancer a country—all is
lost. The Noble Earl concludes! by moving, as an amendment,
a counter addreta, in which he proposed to enter into inquiry
respecting the state of the country, and particularly into trans-
Metloll6 at alancheeter on the 16th of Augmt, with other pro-
ceedings, which might prove to the people of England, that
Parliament were the true guardians of the liberties of the
country.

Lori Viscount SID MOUTH said, he rose in consequence of
the manner in which the Noble Earl had spoken of measures
which attached exclusively to himself. He made hirusrlf sub-
ject at the same time to all the responsibility of these measure..
With respect to the military force, it was known to the Noble
Lords that, notwithstanding the military retrenchments which
had beim made, that Cie military force was now insufficient.—
The Prince Regent had summoned Parliament to increase the
army, and lay before them eviderice on wuich they could act
for tile benefit of the country. In suite instances laws which
were weak required to be improved.—The tramactione of Male
ehester next came under the Noble Viscounts comideratton.—
He stated that the twelve inagistraten, appointed by the County
magietratea of Lancashire, were men of high character. They
were appointed for the ;impose suldy of attending at Manchester,
with a view to contribute to tie preservation of the public peace.
Ale. play the chairman, and Mr. Norris were stidendiary magis-
trates. nominated by the Chatwe'dor of the Duchy itt Lancaster,
'file conduct of those per,en, had been subject to more misrepre-
sentation than ever hail been known upon anx public event. It
always had been the policy of tiovernment to protect the magis•
trates, but independent of thet policy, the magistrates of Man-
chester were entitled to protection. The Noble Viscount stated,
hat on the day after the Nlanchreter tumult the magistrates cattle
to town to give inthrmation touching the events sr Inch bad hap-
pened. 'l'.ley were examined before the Privy Council awl Law
Officers. The result was, an opinion ou the part at' the Law
Officers, that they had acted legally.. The meeting was held to
be illegal. The cases of cruelty tliitalled to .t ie public haul been
negatived. Weer, hear., Al the same lime tine excesses
cout-
nuiued on individuals at Manchester and elsewhere, who belong.
ed to the polices had never been named. A eonsteble name.
Hanwell was stoned to death in ...lancj.ester, end :mutate otheer
nearly deprived of life. Not a single life, it appeared. bad been
lien at Manchester, a t con•wpa.,nce of the blows of the Yew/214.111y
Cavalry. That regiirient had not conducted themee.ves
end the thanks conveyed to them wa.• ti a izseli of limo.
e5:n..1.4110 by evi :coca Mae they nail trawks
Noble Viscountadverteil to the case of Hal F;tzwil;ititn, aii,l
observed, that the Luen of the Noble Lad, and his conduit at
the Yorkshire mei:tins', let; nu ruon to doubt that all confidence

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between hint and the Government was at an end. lle left the
subject with that declaration, and concluded wit!, iservim.t. that
Pairlintne-,1 was coiled opal, to provide a remedy tin the present
state of the country. The Noble Earl had recommended a plan,
but thew Lordships would doubtless use their own views of the
subject. If the Noble Earl persisted in his amendment he should
oppose it.
Lords Erskine. Ring. Lansdowne, and Caernarvon, spoke in
favour of the amendment.
Lords Carytint, 'Alford, Eldon, Liverpool. the Duke of Athol
and Marquis oflitackingliam, in support of the Address proposed
Ly Ministers—on a division there appeared.
Nun Conetrits present 121
Proxies 3hi
159
Contentspresent
noxies 3

Afajority foe Minieers fYs
WEDNESDAY. NOV. 24.
THESE MTN! lON OT THE ADDRESS.
The House met this day at one o'clock. pursuant to adjourn.
ment, for the purpme of prt.tomtiog the Aildres, votetl by tht.
Lords to his Royal II ighntsis the Prince Regent, in answer to his
most gracious speech.
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rloWu after the Lord Chancellor had taken his sect, the Earl of
Shafttathury, on the motion of the Earl of Litiffpnol, was reelected
to the otFtec of Chairman of Committees.

Two ileporta relating W .Appeala were then received, and laid
on the 'ruble.

The !Mit 0 CHANCELLOR, at two o'clock intimated that •
it was time to proceed t ith the Address, and consequently the
tollowing I .ords entered their earn:44es :—The Lord Chancellor,
the Archbishop of Canterbury, Earl Ninnvers mover of ti e
Add re. 4). Lord Churchill (the 6:Total). the Earl of Liverpool, the
Earl of Shefteshury, the Bishop of !Anthill: and other Lords
spiritual.. The procession returned from Carlton [louse about.
tour o'c.ock, whet) the Peers adjourned till to-morrow.
The Prince Regent's Answer to the Address will be reported
to the !louse wants:Tow, .

TiII.RSDAV, NOYEMBER 23.

The flouseassemblc.l at tour o'clock.

The LORI) CHANCELLOR laid before the House tl
Prince Regent's most gracious Answer to the Address presented
to his Royal Highness yestetilay.
SiTA'll... OF COUNTRY.

Earl BATHUHS'r laid on the table, by command of his
Royal Highness the Prince Regent. papers ►imilar to those
presented to the House of Commons lust night by Lord Castle.
reafth. _

. 1"n aaswer to a question across the table. tile Earl of LIVER-
POOL said, it was intended to introduce bills to-morrow night
Muncie,' on tl:ese papers, which might be read a first time. and
perhaps :tlonday night would be a fit time to appoint for
discus.ing them.
The Nl.aquis of LANSDOWN asked, whether it was inten-
ded to mahout any specific motion with a view to the examina-
tion of these. papers, or to refer them to the comidtration of a
Select Committee.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the papers themselves
would disclose a sufficient body of evidence. and therefore it was
not the intention to appoint a Select Committee, nor to take any
express measure for their examinstion.
The Marquis of LANSLIOWN then gave notice, that he
would move tau Tuesday next for a Comutittee on the State of
the Nation.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE moved. that there be laid on
the table an account of the total amount of the Revenue for the
yeah 1817. 1818, and Ist% reepecti►ely, distinguishing the
produce of the Consolidated Fund. the Customs. and the Re.
venue in each quarter; and alto of the net produce of the rues
for the year 1819, in the (muter ending tne tOth Octoben—Or-
dere.l.—The Roust then adjourned.

rtun.»•, trov. 46.

I'lle House met at t o'clock, but there was no busincsc before
t;ieit Lordioiirs ; and without any thing baring occurnal. they
at S o'clock adjourned to Monday..

HOUSE OF COUMONS...
TUESDAY, V. .V. 23.

The House met at two o'clock. and were summoned by do
Usher of the ((lack god to attend the i1011.4* of Peers to :.ear the
Speech front the throne, (for which see Lords.) Upon their re
turn they attiottruud till lour, when the SPEAKER took thst
Chair.