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THE SUIT, LONDON,. THURSDAY EVENING, MAY 10 1855

and common sense. (Hear.) This state of the law as
it at present stood ought to be altere-1, and that was
the object of the present bill.
Mr. GLADSTONE opposed the bill, being convinced
that the marriages professed to be sanctioned by it wEra
totally at variance with the Word of God. The law a 8
it at present stood, represented the opinion of mankind,
and to attempt to alter it would be absurd. They had
heard that day that in every State of Europe except in
a few cantons in Switzerland they were recognised and
tolerated. Now what was the case ? Why, that all
such marriages as were contemplated by the bill, if
sanctioned, were done so under the most solemn of pro-
tests. (Hear, hear.) He considered the present bill as
a measure which, under the disguise of religious liberty,
sought to raise anarchy in the Church of England. This
measure had been brought forward not in deference to
the scruples of the whole community, but a few of its
members. (Hear, hear.) Did his hon. friend who pro-
posed the present bill propose to stop with it, or would
he bring forward another measure next year. (Hear,
hear.) The house ought to know something upon the
subject, because the measure proposed sought to alter
all the social arrangements of society, and to take away
that equality which at present existed with man and
woman, and to give to man all the benefits, taking away
those which woman at present possessed. (Hear, hear.)
To ask which was the object of the present bill. To go
back for !Christianity to conscience was, in his opinion,
absurd in the extreme.
Mr. SPOONER claimed for himself and every Chris-
tian freedom of conscience, in deciding this question
without being bound by the canons of the church. He
had read the 18th chapter of Leviticus, and consulted
with men of high authority on the question, and he was
of opinion that marriage with a deceased wife's sister
was not only not prohibited, lout permitted by the law of
God. The law, as it now stood, he considered produc-
tive of great moral evil, and he therefore felt bound to
support the present bill.
Mr. COBDEN referred to the manner in which pub-
lic opinion sanctioned the evasion of the law. Allusion
had been made to the number of cases of bigamy
I committed in a given district, but it did not follow
that the inhabitants of the district generally ap-
proved of bigamy, and he asked why a bill was not
brought in to make it felony in those persons who went
to Germany to evade the English law with reference to
marriage with a deceased wife's sister. He ridiculed
the idea that the bill would produce anarchytin the
church, as assumed by the hon. member for oxford, or
that the women of England were against the measure.
Before they referred to Jewish laws, it would have been
better had they inquired what the Jewish practices were
in this respect. It had been given in evidence before
the committee, that so far from the Jews considering it
wrong they considered it meritorious, and where the Jaw
of the land did not interfere with the marriage of a de-
ceased wife's sister, the Jewish laws permitted it to take
place at ab earlier period than that with another party.
Mr. J. G. PIIILLIMORE addressed the house, and Mr.
HEYWOOD replied, amidst cries of "Divide."
The house then divided, when there appeared—
For the second reading 165
Against it
Majority 8
The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
bo committed.

The other orders of the; day were then disposed of,
and the house adourned at six o'clock.

-ARMY BEFORE SEBASTOPOL COll-

MITTEE.

The committee reassembled yesterday morning at the
usual hour.

Mr. Sidney Herbert was examined by the Chairman.
He stated that he the office of Secretary-at-War at
the breaking out of the war, and his being a Cabinet
Minister in no way interfered with the duties of his situ-
ation. The duty of the Secretary-at-War was that of a
check on expenditure only. He had nothing to do with
promotion or discipline otherwise than his consent being
required in the event of such promotion involving in-
creased expense? The expenditure of the army was sr,
complicated that it was necessary the office should be
kept up. When it was decided on commencing hostili-
ties instructions were given to Lord Raglan for the de•
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fence of the Balkan, it being understood that Sebastopol
would be attacked, that being the object for which the
British army was despatched to the East. The prepa-
rations made for the army were not with a belief that the
army would winter in the Crimea, but the place be taken
by a coup de main. Admiral Boxer was sent out to
superintend the harbour arrangements, and Dr. A ndrew
Smith the medical department. He had no authority
over the medical department, other than with reference
to finance, and Dr. A. Smith acted direct from the
Horse Guards. The first time he interfered with the
medical department was in the difference that eiisted
between Dr. Smith and Dr. Guthrie, respecting the ap-
pointment of regimental surgeons instead of staff sur-
geons. As circumstances turned out it would hav been
better to have adopted the latter plan, as suggestitdr by
Dr. A. Smith. After the statements which appeared
in the public press with respect to the state of the hos-
pitals at Scutari, and letters sent home, part of which
would bear contradiction, but aufficient remained uncon-
tradicted as would condemn the system, Dr. Hall was
sent to inspect them after the battle of Alma, arid he
gave the Government a very flourishing account of them.
By Mr. Ellice—lnstead of there being one suprame
head over the hospitals, and all orders and instructions
coming from him, there was a large medical staff giving
instructions to diffaent parties. Would it not have
been better to have had one person to direct the whole ?
—So there was after, and Lord Wm. Paulett was sent
out.

By Mr. Ellice—lt has been stated by Mr. Stafford,
who visited the hospital at Scutari, that when he , saw
the lamentable state of things there he spoke to Major
Sillery, the commandant, aced his answer to him was
that he was an officer without fortune, and having a
large ;family he shrunk from a e responsibility of giving
any orders that might subject him to pecuniary embar-
rassment. Was that such a state of things as ought to
have existed ?—No, certainly mot.
The hon. gentleman then read letters he forwarded to
Major Sellery with reference to the state of things exist-
ing at Scutari, complaining of them, but at the same
time making allowance for his being in a strange coun-
try, and referring him to Lord Stratford de Redcliffia for
money and assistance under the circumstances, and he
hoped his letters would have had the effect of benefitting
the service. It might, he said, have been more correct for
the Minister of War to have written to Major Sillery, but
then the question of expenditure came under his depart.
ment. With reference to the management of the hos-
pitals in the Peninsula under the late Duke of Wel-
llington, and that of the hopitals at Scutari, the
case was very different. In the former case
the hospitals were under the duke's hand, as it were,
being iu the same country; le hereas Lord Raglan was
in one country, and the hospitals in another, and he
could only act in accordance w ith the reports made to
him, notwithstanding the perie ,d occupied in communi-
cating with the hospital in is ach instance must have
been about the same. It wa s extremely difficult to
come to a soundconclusionasto the truth or falsehood of
the reports from the Crimea, al id instanced the case of
a letter being inserted in the psi pers, purporting to come
from Miss Nightingale, complaining of the want of lint
at the time she wrote the Government requesting them
not to forward more, having too at uch in store. When Lord
Raglan was sent to the East, lie had full powers con-
ferred on him in controlling tip e army and its depart-
ments. Immediately on Major :3 illery's inefficiency being
discovered, the Government pr, )ceeded to find a sub-
stitute, and a gentleman was sot out. There was a
larger number of medical men s /ith the army than had
before been sent with a similar :number of troops. He
did not think Lord Raglan ougt it to have been so well
acquainted with the state of th a hospital at Scutari as
he (Mr. S. Herbert) was, beta a Lse he got information
from private as well as official soiurces
By Mr. Ellice—Lord Willies a Panlett was sent to
Scutari after the mischief had"b(s m done? After it had
begun. The army being separats id in the field it was
necessary to have many persons: communicating with
one another.
By Mr. Layard —Was any pe n on recalled or repri-
manded for anything that occurs red at Scutari ?—Dr.
Menzies was withdrawn.
That was from ill-health ? Do 3 -ou think it was right
when a person was found incompir tent to allow him to
be removed on the specious pleas of ill-health ?—That
depends on circumstances. Dr. Me nzies is a very clever
man in his profession, but he Las not the gift of
organisation.
Did the Government look out for proper qualified
persons ?—Yes.
D:d you find any person ?—Y,a 1. But he was not
sent out, Lord Raglan having sent .a person there. The
state of the hospitals were not r much better. The
the consumption and supply of wi, e, &c , for the hos-
hon. gentleman was then exaniin a d with reference to
done possible to insure a suppl_r, , and that the pi',4ll, in the course of which he said everything had been
con-
sumption on one occasion was two, pipes and a half in
three days. In selecting Smyrna rfri a place for a tem-
porary hospital, the Government man 1c inquiries of mer-
chants in the city, whose opinions 1 vere certainly con-
tradictory. The right hon. gentles nan was then exa-
""ned by various members of the co rnmittee relative to
e hospital
chased in SWriet
at Smyrna, and also with regard to the
m clothing furnished to the area y. A great quan-
tity of Clothing was also purchase s in Austria, prin.
out turned out teoe
in coats, and cloth: ing was also pur-
Ird.
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No doubt sotnu of the boots sent
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.had no doubt that the authority
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Department, a
clothing that was requlrreeedidice
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mad a of the quantity of
the ferior officer, and
upon that requisition the Sej
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arY at War would issue
the order to te Board of Ordaet
not a ail .re that there was
board was noth responsible.
By Lord Seymour--He was

any difficulty with regard to the transmission of the
stores, but with that the Secretary at War had nothing
! te do.
By the Chairman—ln the opinion of witness it would
be advisable that the purveyor and medical officer should
be made supreme over the whole department. At
Scutari there is about an equal proportion of paid nurses
and ladies.
By the Chairman-e-He found that the purveyor had
been making stoppages from the pay of the men mistak-
ing his instructions, and made those stoppages as if the
army were in a state of peace instead of war, and as
soon as witness heard of it, and shortly before he left
office, he wrote out requesting the paymaster to return
the drawback.
By the Chairman—He was in London during the
whole of the recess, with the exception of two weeks in
September, and sometimes on a Sunday. There was no
communication but what was cemmuuicated to his col-
leaeues who were all within a few hours distance.
General Peel—What authority had you over the mili-
tia ?—I had the same authority over the militia that I
had over the army—namely, a financial authority.
Had you any power to embody regiments or to select
regiments for embodiment !--No ; that was a matter
entirely in the hands of the Secretary of State. He
merely recommended regiments fur embodiment to Lord
Palmerston. Towards the beginning of November he
got together a good deal of information as to the best
mode of recruiting the army, and he cause to the conclu-
sion that he should act with greater probability of suc-
cess through the medium of the militia than by any other
means. He circulated a memorandum among the mem-
bers of the Government more directly interested in the
subject, and my views having been adopted by the Go-
vernment, when Lord Palmerston went to Paris for two
days in November, he asked him to authorise the Home-
office to call out any regiments he might specify. He
used that authority by calling nut and embodying certain
reeiments.
By Mr. Layerd—He had nothing to do with the
raising of the foreign legion. He appointed Messrs.
Heater and Howell, because they were packers for the
colonels. The firm of Hayter and Howell had been
army clothiers for nearly one hundred years. This firm
transmitted the whole of the free gifts transmitted to
the Crimea-809 to Scutari and 403 to the Crimea.
By the Chairman—He anpointed these gentlemen on
public grounds, and not because one of the gentlemen
was brother to the secretary of the Treasury. At the
time of the appointment he did not know of the rela-
tionship. The system in the War-office was extremely
efficient and worked well. All promotions were made
from merit.
Mr. Layard—ln what relation did your department
stand with respect to the Horse Guards ?---My depart-
ment was purely a financial one.
Do you know that Lord Hardinge was consulted by
the Cabinet as to what took place in the East ?—Cer-
tainly.
Did the Cabinet act upon the report of Lord Har-
dinge f—Lord Hardinge drew up schemes for the orga-
nisation of the army, which were acted upon.
Not for operations in the field ?—Not in any respect.
The state of things with respect to the hospitals at
Scutari being such as you have described, did it occur to
you to inform Lord Hardinge that somebody had not
done his duty ?—I think Lord Hardinge perfectly agreed
with me that somebody was to blame, but the difficulty
was to lay our hands on the right man.
Did you ascertain, in communication with Lord Har-
dinge, who that somebody was ?—Even to this moment
I hesitate to fix the blame upon any one individual.
The Chairman--Do you think there are more than
one f—The public have the impression that the system
was very much to blame, and that the alteration of the
system would remove the evil. Ido not believe, how-
ever, that the difference between one system and another
is nearly so great as between one man and another. A
bad system will work well with a good man, but a good
system will not work well with an inferior man. In
consequence of the long peace no one has seen any mili-
tary operations on a large scale, and the various officials
were frightened at the responsibility and expense they
might incur. It has been said by Dr. A. Smith, and
the remark will apply to other persons, that he was
months before he could bring himself to believe that he
could spend as much money as lie pleased.
During 40 years' peace has the system improved cr
gone down ?—lt is better for some purposes and worse
for others.
Where did the Duke of Wellington acquire his expe-
rience ? Had he not many difficulties to contend with ?
—Originally, I should think he bad.
His experience was gained in India ?—Yes.
Do you think that the battles in which he was engaged
in India were greater than the battles that have taken
place during the last 20 years ?—That is a matter of
opinion.
I should like to have your opinion. The object iof the
committee is, if possible, to lay the blame upon one man
or men.—l think a few months' experience would do
more good than any mere change in the form of crepe-
meats.
The Chairman—You say it is better to have ia bas
system with a good man than to have a good system
with a bad man. But what would you do supposing you
had a beet syStem and bad men too ?—ln that cae y-
must try and reform your system, and experienel-
soon show you who are the good men.
Lord Seymour—The Duke of Newcastle expres4e
approval of the manner in which his subordinat s
discharged their duties. Were you satisfied wish
manner in which the various duties connected wit y,.fle
department were discharged l—l am bound, in gra
tude to the gentlemen e nployed in the War-o e
say that I believe it is the best constituted office Under
the Crown. My subordinates worked with great zeal.
I made great demands upon their time ; their , office
hours were lengthened, but I never heard a murmur.
Never was a man better served by his subordinates than
I was. The promotions in that office go by merit, and
not by seniority, though occasionally that rule has been
departed from. But the result of the system was not
good. There was a constant strain upon every person
employed, and whenever promotions were made I was
met by reproaches and remonstrances from persona who
considered themselves to have been passed over. . Lat-
terly clerks have been introduced at the bottom of the
list by means of examination.
Did you find, practically, that the separation cif the
Secretaryship of the Colonies from the office of Secre-
tary for War was a great advantage ?—Very great,
indeed. In fact, it would have been impossible to Carry
on the war without separating the two offices.
Did you make any proposal to Government fol. any
further change F—ln the first place, I proposed to the
Duke of Newcastle, with a view to correct certain evils,
that there should be periodical meetings of the War De-
partment, the head of the military departments and my-
self, so that whatever orders were given should be given
to each in the presence of all.
The Chairman—Was that proposal adopted f—lt
was ; but, subsequently, the Government came to the
conclusion that it would be well to give these meetings
a more formal character. An order in Council! was
therefore obtained fixing the meetings, and putting cer-
tain necessary limitations upon the powers of a military
board.
Lord Seymour—Are the committee to understand
that, in consequence of the organisation of the various
departments not being satisfactory, you recommended
these periodical meetings ?—I was desirous that the
whole financial business of the Ordnance should be con-
sidered at a board such as I proposed, and that the
powers of the Board of Ordnance should be confined td
the materiel of the army. The plan was agreed to. I
drew up a letter fir the Duke of Newcastle to the Pre-
sident of the Council, applying for an order in council,
but in the meantime a motion was made in the Hence of
Commons, which terminated in the disruption of the
Government. It was not intended that the board should
have any executive functions as a board, but the whole
power and authority were to remain in the hands of the
Secretary of State. The members of the board were to
advise with him, and to receive his orders in his presence.
Such a system as that might have been adopted in
August or September last ?—No, I think not ; because
it is very important in matters of this kind not to make
too sudden a disturbance of the existing state of things.
A very small disturbance deranges the method of de-
partments, and it would not have been prudent to re-
model the whole without some experience as to what
ought to be done. The change I proposed was this :
That the Board should con-ist of the Secretary of State,
who should be assisted and advieed by the Commander-
iii-Ctuf, the "Master-General of the Ordnance, if there
was one, a Commissary-General, and the Secretary at
War. The Sem( tary at War would have exercised a
wholesome check over the expenditure of the army, and
would have moved the estimates, not only for the army,
but fir the Ordnance and Commissariat, and the House
of Commons would have been enabled to obtain at one
view the gross expenses of the army, with the exception
of the materiel, the Ordnance remaining purely a manu-
facturing establishment.
Would that have brought the War Department into
something resembling the organisation of the Admiralty ?
—Yes ; only I think the authority of the Secretary of
State would have been more defined than in the Admiralty.
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all I proposed was, that the Secretary of State should
summon the heads of various departments to give him
their advice and receive his orders. The board would
have consisted of the Commander-in-Chief to govern the
army, the Master-General of the Ordnance to arm and
equip the army, the Secretary-at-War to control the
finance of the army, and a Commissary-General to feed
the army.
Mr. Ellice—Entertaining these opinions, do you think
it was prudent just at the time the war broke out to
render the machinery of the different departments less
efficient than it had been during a time of peace—in
point of fact, to attempt to carry on the administration
of the army without the Master-General of the Ordnance
er a Surveyor of the Board of Ordnance ?—The case of
the Master-General was a peculiar one. It was thought
that Lord Raglan was peculiarly qualified for the ser-
vice he had in hand, bug, if he had been retained here as
Master-General the country would have been deprived
of his services; and, on the other band, there was an
officer of great experience who could be p'aced at the
Ross.
head of the personnel of the Ordnance—namely, Sir Hew

Sir Hew Ross has stated that the authority of the
Master-General is paramount, but that he (Sir H. Ross)
could not supersede the authority of the Board ?—Sir
Thomas Hastings states that according to his patent the
Lieutenant-General of the Ordnance had all the autho-
rity of the Master-General.

But Sir Hew Ross has stated grit he had not that
authority ?—I should imagine that the Lieutenant-Ge-
neral, in the absence of the Master• General Lau supreme
authority.
The committee rose at 10 minutes to four o'clock.

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3 ; blenry Yelland, 35, sawyer ; Waltersl Stewart,
43, musician ; Louisa, 43, wife ' • Amelia ditto, 18 ; Hen-
rietta, ditto, 11; Charles ditto, 7; Adolphus ditto, 6 ;
William Thorn by, 33, servant; Susan ditto, 36, wife ;
Mary Escott, 21, servant; Thomas Escott, 13, labourer ;
Williain Hallett, 28, farmer ; Eliza ditto, 23, wife ;
Joseph Morrell, 30; Maria ditto, 22; N. Longsford, 49,
mason-149 adults, 98 children, 16 infants, equal to 198
statute adults.
Of the above the following are the parties saved :-
Brought here by Avon-J. Short: of Callington ;G.
Pederick, Kingsbridge; William Morey, Isle of Wight;
John A. Bone, Devonport; William Brock, Dawlish ;
Thos. Hill, London, and Bessy. Hill, his daughter; Wm.
Walters, Beeralston; Mary, Richard, James, John, Betsy,
Mary ditto; William Seldon, Devonport; Samuel William
Drewe, Exeter; John Down, Lifton; John Garland, St.
Teeth, Camelford ; William P. Stoyles, Plymouth; Frances
Elizabeth, child of ditto; Samuel Rogers, Jersey; William
H. Down, Dartmoor; Mark Chant, West Chinnick ; Simon
Pattemore, Meriot, near Crewkezne; William Thornby,
Jersey; Susan Thornby, ditto; Edward Westacott, Dorset;
James Clampitt, Newton Abot; John Morcomb, Lifton;
John Tinkham, Totnes; William Dawson, Lustleigh,
Newton Abbot; William Turpin, ditto; Henry Lacy,
Meriot, near Crewkerne • Samuel Dymond, Kingsbridge ;
William E. Churchward, Stonehouse ; William Yelland,
Devonport; John Phare, Lifton; John Phare, jun., ditto;
Nicholas Reed, St. Ives ; Robert Williams, Wyke Regis ;
Robert Hellier, Poltimore, near Exeter ; Joseph Bawden,
Southmolton ; Silas Creper, Davidstone, near Boscastle ;
Wm. Hallett, Exeter ; Jas. Escott. Ta.vistock ; Thos. Es-
cott, ditto; Edward Hayne, near Exeter; Edward Tolley,
Chudleigh ; 'Elizabeth Pearce, Plymouth ; Mary A. Pen-
man, ditto ; Michael Studdon, gone direct home • George,
Alfred, and Jernima Wilce, of Hamble, St. Kiew, near
Wadebridge ; Nicholas Langsford, Luxhilyon, St. Austell;
John Hocking, St. Mabyn, Bodmin ; Henry Hocking, do. ;
William Tom, Blisland ; William Clemence, St. Kiew,
near Wadebridge ; Caroline, William Henry, Robert, Ca-
therine, Ellen, ditto; William Treleaven, Wadebridge ;
Edward Tangye, Redruth; John Skewes, Falmouth;
John Kneckey, Stithians; E. Carroll Hele, Dawlish ; So-
lomon Solomon, Plymouth; Samuel Quintrel, of Newquay,
St. Colomb, supposed gone home ; Sampson Radmore, at
St. Keverne, in hope of finding wife's body ; Henry North,
Colyton, near Exeter; Henry Jeffery, Calstock', with bad
leg, said to have returned home; a woolstapler to St. Co.
lomb, and a navvy smith to Truro, names unknown.

LATE FIRE AT MR. SCOTT _RUSSELL'S.
-SERIOUS CIIARGE OF ARSON.

Layton Edgard Hooper, 26, a respectable-looking
young man, lately employed as a shipwright in the ser-
vice Of Mr. John Scott Russell, and residing at No. 1,
George-street, Limehouse-fields, was brought to the
Thames Police, court 'yesterday by Mr. Superintendent
Howie, of the IC division, charged on suspicion of hav-
ing set fire to certain pieces of timber, with intent to
destroy a floating battery on the premises of his late em-
ployer. The disastrous results of the fire and the amount
of property lost having been previously made public, in-
tense interest was excited, and the court was densely
crowded.
Mr. Hobler appeared for the prosecution, and Mr.
Ballantine, instructed by Mr. Pelham, for the defence.
Mr. Thomas Frazer Campbell, storekeeper at Mr.
Russell's works in the Isle of Dogs, stated that at nine
o'clock on Thursday night last the timekeeper called
his attention to a fire at the floating • battery, a vessel
'which had just been completed, and was about to have
been launched on the ensuing Saturday. Witness gave the
alarm to Mr. Dixon, the superintending engineer, and
then rushing into the yard perceived a.stroegillumination.
As he approached the battery, the fire, which seemed to
come from each side of it, met him with a strong rushing
glow, as if running over some rapidly ignitable substanc,z.
The battery was 180 feet long,- and there at first ap-
peared about 10 feet of fire under the bow. The vessel
was plated with iron, and it would be difficult to .set it
on fire from the outside. The wood used in the prepara-
tion for the launch appeared to have been the first to
take fire. Witness ran to see if their was any fire astern,
and the flames pursued him rapidly, as if running along
some bituminous and easily ignitable pathway. The
prisoner had been in the employment of Mr. Russell,
and left about three weeks since, in consequence of a
strike. He was highly esteemed as a mechanic, and di.s-
charged himself, owing to the stoppage of some wages.
He had worked about fourteen months ago at the Esk,
a vessel built by Mr. Russell. No part of the arma-
meet was nn board the battery when it was destroyed.
Mr. J. Dixon, superintending engineer, went through
every corner of the floating battery at 8 o clock on the
Thursday night, to see if any trifling jobs remained to be
done previous to the launching. He left in 25 minutes,
and there was then not the slightest appearance of fire.
The men knocked off at a quarter to 8 o'clock. There
were men employed to remove the chips and shavings
every night, but some must necessarily remain, not,
however, such a quantity as could cause the fire that had
taken place. There was a solid mass of wood under the
battery, which, though mingled with some damp wood,
could easily be ignited. The fire was obviously from the
outside. The launch-way was greased, but the fire did
not appear to have commenced there. When witness
came up there were about 50 square feet of flame, and it
seemed to run up and down the battery, on the outside,
as if it were making immense hops in intermediate suc-
cession.