The National Register.
London, England, 1819-06-20 00:00:00

TIM NATIONAL REGISTER.

misrepresentation only once; and that was also of The Times'
The present cue was of so gross and so malignant a character,
that he thought it was hunch...bit to say it was the result of mis-
take. Whilst absent from the House about two hours on Tues-
day, Mr. Hume spoke ; and part of the report of that speech iii
T/o Thoia on ettnesilay was to this effect: After observing
that some remark Of Mr. H.'s was received with some laughter
fmni„ the Paper reported Mr. Hume to have stated—" Ministers
might laugh'. I.et the ii hook at the other side of the picture.
Let them survey the misery of the poor at Carlisle and elsewhere ;
and then he thought there would be but one Right Honourable
Gentleman (Mr. Canning) who would indulge in a smile of self-
congratulation, an individual who habitually turned into ridicule
the sufferings of his unhappy fellow-creatures, and who had been
aide to plate himself so far above them.—(('outirtatd tiara.")
This constituted the breach of privilege of which he complained ;
and hating ascertained that Mr. Hume had not used the wools
imputed to him, nor any thing like them, he deemed it right to
complain to the House. The libel was most infamous, as the
•• wretch" had made the misrepresentation a cover for slander;
and if such slander were not to be checked, what would be the
consequences? To appeal to the law would be absolutely nothing,
as he might have been %omitted of libel without ascertaining
a hether the worths had been really used. If the lion. Member
had hot explicitly answered that the words wtre nut lii', declining
to be accountable for Newspaper reports, he (Mr. C.) would have
bees left without any other remedy than that extremity which he
would not name in that House. Thus would the meanest scrib-
bler that ever di the press, have it in his power, if the evil
were not chickinfer d
reduce two most honourable men to paintul
extremities. If the dignity of their debates were to be Lewin-
Pined • if there were to be security for the our:ewers aid'
which their proceedings were to be communicated to the Public,
they would Lwow what course was best to be adopted. He laid
his complaint before the House, declining, as he was personally
concerned, giving an opinion as to what ought to be done; but it
WAS del t to add, that in The Tina of that day (Monday) there
was an acknowledgment of a considerable error, and a statement
of what really was said by Mr. Hume. lie deemed it something
more than a considerable error ; it was the introduction of a whole
sentence, a complete scene.
'lite Clerk having read tile marked in the Papers,.
Mr. hill NIL stied, that he had .tJt indu lin the personali-
ties ascribed to hhn ; that he had said nothing in angel ; and that
he had no hesitraton in slitting the Report to hen gross misrepre-
sentation. He had hell conuuunicauons with the FAlitor,
who bud expressed his regrets. at the erme—had offered to
wait on him (Mr. ii.) as well as Mr. Canning to ex lain all
the circumstances—and had expressed readiness to me the
Reporter to shew that the error had not proceed from any
front
improper motive'. lie. however, had declined the interview
but had sent • the correction of his speeeli which had been:
published.
Mr. LLIAMINGTON thought none could believe that the mis-
representation had originated in design; adding that the same
paper bad misrepresented him, in the case of Captain Handier.
Mr..C. WVNN moved, that C. Bell, the printer, be ordered to
attend the Bar to-morrow.

After some remarks from Mr. Liuleton, Mr. Wynn. Lord
Castlereagh. &c. as to the mode of jirooreding,
Mn BUOUGHAM admitted the breach of privilege, but tip-
peeled to the House and the Hight Hon. Gent. (Mr. Canning),
whether, after such ample notice had been taken of the offence. it
would not be better to proceed no further with this ease. If they
proceeded, other cases moat be noticed; for other N ivrapapers, in
their "eomments" as well Al in their reports, had been guilty of
what must be deemed breach of privilege; and might they not
also be noticed.

Mr. CAN xis a again declined expressing say opinion, as he
was personally concerned.
Mr..l. It. Wastri thought they were bound to notice this case.
except they wished to rare a power greater than themselvesu—a
power that would subject the honour of ilia Members of that
House to its own mercy and comma.
Motion then agreed to, and Mr. C. Bell ordered to attend.
CASH PAYMR:N7 s.—Mr. PEEL moved the third reading of
the Balk of England cash payment. bill.
The bill was read a third ume; on the question that it do pass,
Mr. MANNING proposed a clause, '• that in order the better
to enable the said governor and company of the Bank of England
to provide for the payment of their outstanding notes in bullion
of a statidard fineness, &c. and ultinostely in cash, there shall be
repaid to them out of the surplus of the consolidated fund, or
Gam other sources, 5,0(0,00111.; the same to be paid in monthly
instalments of 5000,01. each, comrnencierg 011 the 13th day of
duly next. and so afterwards, on the 15th day of every following
month, until the 13th of April, taw. inclusive.'
1.0171 CASTLEREAGH intimated his wish, that the hon. gent.
would deter his clause till his right hon. friend. who was then
unavoidably absent in the discharge of his professional duties,
should return. It was his wish to allow the orders of the day
precedence.
Mr. ELLICE said, that the clause he meant to propose was to
this effect—that when the Bank should be called on to pay their
notes, on the let of May. 1521. in bars of bullion at 31. 17s. I Ad.
per ounce, they should have the option of paying such notes ei-
ther in such bars or in the legal coin of the realm.
Mr. ELLICE'S choose. relative to the payments in coin or bul-
lion, was then read a first and 241 time, and added to the bill by
wav of rider.
Mr. MANNING proceeded to move his clause, for the repay-
ment to die Bank 43,rvin,tics I. between the 15th of July next
and the 15th of April, 152 u, in nuinthly instalments. The latter
period, he observed, was two months and a half beyond that: at
present limited.
The CHANCELLOR of the EweitEctura hoped, that the
lion. Gent. would withdraw his clause.
The elates: was wit:al.-awn.

The bill was mail a third time, ant: then passed.
LOAN lit td..—tra the motion oldie Chancellor of the Exche-
quer. the Howe went into a committee, and the report was
ordered to be read to morrow.
Excasti Dt-rtEs I..—The (7HANCELLOR of the ExcliE-
QuEn brought up a Bill tOr granting certain additional ditties
on tobacco. ',Ake. &c.
The Bid was read a first time and ordered ro be read a second
time to-morrow.
The CHANCELLOR of thti Excut:iicEn moved the second
reatiin:; of the Cutonit,' Dutit, Bill.
Mr. lii.oUllll.\M sugmestisl to the night lion. Gent. the
propriety of not pressing the second reading of the Bill at that
late hour.

The Cu ANCILLOR of the EXCHI:4OER replied. that it 110111
only the skeleton of a Bill. The blanks were yet to he tilled tip.
and if the bill were read a second time that night he would Dot
bring on the Committee before Friday.
Mr. Haar: ho?ed the 'light Bon. Gem. would take into
consideration the duties on hemp, which were oppreseiee.
The Bill was that read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted an Friday. The Lottery Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed to-morrow.

The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
'louse adjourned at a quarter past one o'clock.

TUESDAY, JUNE 15.
The Itepoit a the Loon Bill was brought up and si7leett to.
Mr. St..rj.aat Bas Low gave notice. that on Wittliierday, the
lie should move for lei.ve to luit.c in a Bill to amend the
Laws respecting the admission of Attosneys to practise in tie
Court: of Lea.

MALT 41'. BR ND asked whethe► the new Duty
on Ault would be received by Instalment% on the vtocka in hand.
and regarding the tat to which du duty would tettcod on the
Aid *tot

JUNE et.

fhe
CHAIICYLLOR of the Rxcur‘trnit replied that he had
not been able to institute strfßeicnt enquiries; that every nata-
tion would he paid to the ; and that the example of termer
instances where a similar dtny was to be proposed, would be
followed.
Mr. CALCRAFT mid he should certainly take the sense of the
House on the Malt Bill, except the Chancellor of the Exchequer
would consent to make some considerable alaitements to the Malt-
stet for the mucks in hand.-411ear !)—The 8111 was Wad a second
time, and ordered to he committed on Friday next.
The Lottery Bill went through a Coniunittee.—lleport tomor-
row.
LICENSING SYSTEM—The !louse went into, a Committee
on the Publicans' Licensing Bill, on the motion of Mr. BEN-
ATT. It was the mconitilitment of the Bill.
Various new clauses and anieDthuetlL, were proposed and
agreed to.
Mt. ESTCOURT objeetml to that clam, which declared that
persons having licenses withhekl might appeal to quarter Res-
none, on giving five days notice. Ile moved to have al much of
the douse lett out as affected the country.
BREACH OF PiliviLECIE.-01i the motion of Mr. WyN
Charles Bell, Printer of the Times, wa.; placed at the Bar. Ile
said he was the Ptinter the Editor and Conductor ass Mr.
[faunas ; and he Wawa the writer of the Report. lie di.' not
atterd the Office late ;. but lie bad examined the copy which as ert
to the printers, slip by slip.. The explanation in Monday'snpavr
was. written, he believed, by Mr. Barnes. Ile Itaudud m the
slips ; they were not in short hand ; he could not tell whether
the taanscrin was from. short hand notes or memoroaidunic.—
i Winless ithdrew.)
This SYEARaIa said he had received a letter from the Re-
porter, stating that he ovis in attendance.
The Reporter was. then called, and stated himself to be the
author of the Report in question, taken under the inconveniences
of a crowdeiltgallery, &c. lie added, that not having hard the
sentence pencil', he applied to a stranger nal. him ; and front
what that individual said. he was induced to write the Report row
complained 6f. Ile had no intention to misrepresent ; but a...
Mr. Hume alluded to a smile on the Ministerial Bench, he
deemed the Report to be correct.—(Witriess withdrew.'
Mr. WYNN moved as a resolution, that the mis.statinnent was
a scandalous misrepresentation of the debates of that House, a
caluniniuuw libel on one of its Members, and an aggravated
breach of its privileges..
Alter mine remarks against this Resolution, it was agreed to.
Yr. WYNN then moved, that the Reporter be committed to
Ncwgate.

Mr. WILLIAM SMITH said, the hon. gent. (Mr. Wynn)
seemed to think, that the Reporter himself might prefer being
committal to Newgxte in being taken into custody by the See.
grant-at-Arms.. Now..he knew the young gentlemen personally,
sad alsolcome something of his family ; and he could assure the
house that he was a pawn of respectable connexions, of good
edueatien, and of excellent behaviour. There could. therefore,
be no doubt that to the gentleman himself the punishamt of
being taken into the custody of the Sergeant-st-arms would be
prerenible to the degradation of being committed to Newhate.
Mr. WILLIAMS (we believe) said, that in explanation of the
misrepresentation which had given rise to the present proceedings.
he thought himself bound to state. that on die evening of the
debate lie had sat behind, the hon. member for Aberdeen (Mr.
flurnc), and that. he had adistioct recollection of the following
expression The right hots gentleman, and the hon. gentle-
men around him. may snide." Soon After this there cettainly
were several cheers, although, no doubt, a few sentences inter-
vened, which were lost in the gallery.
Mr. W. WV X 7,4. WWI to alter hiA motion in the manner sug.
grated, and expressed. his hope that this Goa would operate as a
!sufficient caution in future-

The motion that the Repo. having confessed hirasei so be
the author of said paper, be taken into diaudy by the Sergeant-
at-araus for said offonie. was then put, and unanimously agreoll to.
Mr. Berta ET I said, it was a clause esentisl to the protection
of the species of property in boroughs, as well as to protect Pub.
Beans against, Brewers.. The lion. 'Alember then expressed hii
surprise that the Corporation of Exeter should have petitioned
against this Bill, but as this Bill went to correct an hbu'.c afle.:t-
ing Brewer Magistrates, such opposition might cease to excite
astonishment. One of the Corporation, who were eight in num-
ber, was a Brewer, and he had procured a licence to a hoti-e
which was next doer to a public home. In Reading, Dover,
l'ortsntouth, &e. about 7 out of every 8 public houses belonged
to brewers, or Brewer Nlaristrates, eial it was his desire to destroy
that influence which they by aside means possessed, heeling con-
sineol that otherwise there could be no security fur the pub:i-
eons' property.
Mr. CAi Veer thotight the clause ought to be a:tered as de-
sired; It the event of such alteration, he should not object v 3 the
Bill.

The }louse diviiird. The nomhers were for Mr. Flgtcoltres
motion—Ayes 114—Noes 76—The clause was therefore lust.

On the cause requiring that Magistrates should give t!..tir
reasons in writing for refusal of Literves.
Mr. Alderman ‘Vuois ‘aid, he dal not see Wh.lt 01+.,1(.:.f
there could be so such regulation.
The remaining clauses in the !Tinted Bill were thin a-cid
and the report was ordered to be reeeivrd tomorrow

i'IIIViLEGES OF THE lloust.—The SPEAKER irsimi4t it
that a stranger, who had been holding forth a paper to view in
front of the gallery, and who, upon being ordered to withdraw it,
had Ised ii.sulting language, was token into tie cu of the
Sergeant at Arms, agreeably to the standing orders of the House.
Was it the *attire of the Ileuse that the meeanger should he
cadet' in, and the House should then take what course they
might think proper?
The individual wet called to the bar of the House, heard is
extenuation. reprimanded by the Speaker, and ordered to be dis-
charged on the payment of his fees.
Mr. W VNN was sorry. after the manner in which the time of
the House had been lately consumed, to he obliged to rail the
attention of the !lon Members to another breach of their yrivi.
leges. (1..0utl cries of !fear.) The Hon. Member then read an
extraet from the letter. which accused Sir James Macintosh of
neonsisteney in his political conduct. and of having acted the
part of a vycophant n. Buonaparte in the year t 803. It also said
that if the reports in the newspapers were to be believe'. the
ihtsc and 51ta,,•1,..‘ nectisation which Sir James Macintosh hail
brought againq his Majesty's mini,ters had been heard with
cheers, thunders of applaase. &c. by the tnendani of that House.
The hon. gent., after he had read the paragraphs of which we
have given the above ahAract, said, that if such oheervations were
allowed to be given to the world with impunity, the daily press
would soon boeoine the master of parliament.
Tht paper which contained the letter in question declared the
printer's mane to i.e A. Mitchell.
Mr. %Vys.-x then mom' that A. Mitchell. the printer of the
paper, should be ordeted to :meal at the bar of the House te-
morrow. . .

Sir J. NIACIXTOIIII looked upon this attack, as he trusted that
he should upon all others which were preferred against him on
similar authority, with the most perfect indifference. As hr as
related to himself, he hoped never to see Ina name joined withal
question of privilege. With respect to the truth d the charge
which had beer. hi °tight against hini, he must say that the indi-
vidual, who had invented u, had betrayed the grossest igrorince
of his cnduct. At the time he (the writer of the letter) Lad
represented him (Sir J. Macintosh) as plmini the part of sy.to-
phant to Ilm.inlparte„ lie was ailininistering Justice in the Last
inJitx Ileste
Lon! CAYi LtaEAGII said, that as sonic degree of warmth
had been excited in the House by the discussion which had nal-
denuslly urn.en, lie should suggest to the hon. gent.. opposite the
propri:ty of deterring it tin to-tuturow.

JUNE O.

Mr.wrmx said. that though he did not entettain the slighted
doubt on the question himsek, he mold not have any objection to
withdraw his complaint that night, ilia: were allowed to bring it
fervard to-morrow night.
Mr. BaonnEsr gave notice, that he would move that the
Hou.e on iti rising to-morrow, adjourn till Friday.
The other orders of the day wtm disposed of, a d the House
adjourned at half past two o'clock.

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 16.

ADJOURNYVNT.—The CHANCELLOR of the EXCREQVEII
moved, that the Moose at its rising should adjourn to Friday
n ,xt.—Agreed to.
Loam Buci,.—On the third reading ((the l.nan Bill,
Mr. P. (urrrKLL ruse to propose an omission of the clause
regarding the pre.. of the Bank on the boar. of ig,oeo.ount which
s•a, at tie rate of KW. pot million, amounting to pfusg. One
tenth of that expence would be amply sufficient to remunerate
toe trouble of the Bank ; and he therefore thought, in times kite
tile present, that every possible saving ought to be erected. He
moved the ornhsion of the clattoe,,.

The CHANCELLOR of the Earn actor a said, that such
..11owances bad been made from tittle immemorial ; and that as it
I ad GO long prevailed, and as he enacted there would not be any
ether loan far may years, be thought it would nut be advisable
t.i Fess the saving row. The Bulk deserved something for
voaltic. and he saw no reason fur departure from the previously
arraged amount.
Tile motion for the ontiminn of the clause was then negatived
without a dirision.—Thc Bill was then read a third time and

passed.
BREACH VP 'PRITILEBE.-.--Mr. W. SMITH presented a
Petition from the Tins., ReporteT, praying to be discharged out
of cuato•ly, on paying of his fees.
Sir F. MIRTH:TT a,;ain protested against the power assumed
by the House in this and in either instances. under the name in
What he denied to be privilege, to try persons in the way of
which this Petitioner had been inie I and punished. Besides it
seemed that the words reported. and summed not to have been
uttered, now turned out to have been partly uttered.—(Sorge
reit., of no.)—He understood some lion. Members to have ex-
In eanal that they remembered the cheers, the smile. Ae.—(!fear,
liter.) lie pro*ested against the power which had been exer-
cised, and thought the Petitioner ought to be discharged without
raving of his feat. The Hon. Baronet expressed his &swish-
mint that the debates were reported with so much accuracy and
ability.
Lord CASTLEREAGH COMM not see what object the Hon.
Baronet proiniod to himself. As an Advocate, lie was a must
injudicious one; as a Counsel lie was a most suspicious one, the.
Hon. Bart. having tried the question of privilege ta various ways,
Deal fa. Led ; and as a friend in this instance he was not likely to
effect meth good. The offence which dad been committed 'rasa
a cal 1111 l nions mature; and it was no excuse to say that it •had not
been intentionally committed. It might have been productive of
most fatal extremities ; and therefore-it could-apt pass unnoticed
by the House.
Mr. W. COHST4I4AT was sorry foe the CRUM whirl bad been
pursued by the Hon. Member.
Mr. flositisson add the mettqwesentation was most gross I
had it been otherwise, it could not have passed unnoticed by the
Hight l ton. Gentleman.—( Cries of Ai do ).
Mr. HUME SSW, hod the Hon. Baronet been in the House
when an explanation was wade on a former night, lie (Sir F. B.)
•mold not have insinuated that Ilse report was in fact en.: eat.
Lord BINNING also declared • that nothing had been said to
warrant the insinuation that the repose was substantially correct;
and lamcnod that the Hoe. Baronet should have lent himself to
countenance any such ftzling. TAs report was most fake, find,
end scandalous.

Mr. Urn L KTON said, from what herecollected of the speech,
the report wagincarroet.
Mr. C. Ilutou issue* thought the Noble Lord (Binning)
was not warranted iu using the language which he had
adopted ; he was neither warranted in s.iying that the report
was wilfully false, nor in ch ',ging the Hun. Baronet in on-
onftirly lending himself to countenance error. As to their
privileges he would. net be deterred by either of the Noble
Lords, nor by an Hon. Member, from expressing his opiniGit
rev: cling any individual act, or any question of privilege;
and as to the exertion of their privileges this leasion, he
thought they had been enforced most severely.—( hear.)
Lard Blaine: eatpleised, and said he bad not intended
to 'lse any unparliamentary language.
Petition brought up and read.
Mr W. SMITH then moved, that the Reporter he placed
at the L'ar fur the purpose of being divrharged.—Agreed
to.

The Repot ter having been placed at the Bar,
The SPEAKER said. that in consequence tit the Repor-
ter having confessed himself the author of the parser's/Ili,
afterwards voted to be • scandalous misrepresentation of
the debates, a calunittiotri libel on one of its Members, and
an aggrawated breach of its privileges, he had been-com-
mitted to the custody of the Sejestitt at Arms. His Peti-
tion had been received, and that, as well as the manner of
the Petitioner and his explanations, had been fully eonsi-
tiered. The sorrow and repel which •he had -new ex-
'messed, coupled with his conduct yesterday, the Mouse
had been iddriceel to extend mercy to the Petitioner. A
teprimand had been directed, and then the diveliar.ge of
the Petitioner ; but the Speaker was desires's that this-le-
nity should not be misninitistoel. The.iteperts remelted
.from the indulgence of the Hou.e, and en abase of Slat
imleilzritcr ems,' owed all ageravated ofenee.; and it was
desired that this should be deemed a pithier waning that
any filmic °Renee of a aiasilar, character, let It be esonniit-
ted by whom it might, would be slaked with the utmost'
ignar.—(Clieras.)
The Petitioner was discharged On payment of his fees;
and the reprimand was ordered to be entered on the Jour-
nals on the ntotietrof Lord CKstlerettEli•
l'etitiEßS agciu.t the Foreign Enlistment 11111 note pre-
sented from Live, pool and Al
M•RItIAGE Ace.—Mr. W. S)IITH observed, that in bring-
ing forward this motion, lie found himself fortified by the
contents of several petitions which had been presented on the
aultjert. The prayer of those petitions was for dune alteration in
the nuariageservice, as it respected a particular ,class of indisi-
doe's. The Fie-swim complained of was described in as brief
terms as possible in the petitions then-selves, wfdeli stated that
the marriage • service, as peessuritied by law, was, in some of its
parts, inconsidewt with the ranieiples of their religious belief.
Prior to the net of the tenth Ceo. It. marriage was considered in
this country merely as a civil contract. To die ceremonial ap-
pointed by that act the dissenters generally entertained sonic
objection; but what was lltßiplitlDEol Of by his clients on this
occasion WAS, the various expressions relative to the doctrine of
the Trinity which occurred in it. By a recent statute they had
been relieved,from the penalties and disabilities imposed by laws
which had become almost absolute, but it was still unpleasant to
their consciences that this doctrine should ilia-minced in at
'wanner that implied a reco;.raition of it on their part. As this
introduetion of it was pertectly useless, the petitioners hoped
from the liberality if the hulthr, that in their case it might be
dispensed with. Before the act of George 11., mania;;: was
held to be essentially a civil contract. For tlis proposition he
had the authority of Mr. Justice Blackstone. it was net then
requisite to its validity, that it should be connected with a reli-
SIOUb mammy. 1:101f1 the operation of that act, however, Jews