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right to demand explanation on that subject, because the honour
of the country was implcated. Ministers ought to do away the
foul aspersion east oa their conduct by that report.
Lord LIVERPOOL declared that no such pledge had ever
been giv.n. The motion was negaiived without a division.
On the order of the day for the third leading of the Irish
Grand dory Pi esentments bill,
The Earl of DONOLTG 11 MOR E rose, and enumerated va-
rious statements made against the bill by clerks of the Crown,
patent officers, medical attendants in gaols, and others to be ma-
tei ially strxteil by the bill; and also pointed out how incom.
plete it was respecting its own provisions in particular functions
of grand juries, besides the injustice of at once affecting the
vested interests of parties who were, contrary to the practice of
parliament, allowed no opportunity of being heard. If the
present bill went on, he had several amendments to offer; but if
his motion for postponement were agreed to, jiistico might be
done to all the parties, and no delay gives, fur the mains he had
stated, to the actual operation 0; the bill. He concluded by
moving that it be read a third time that day three months.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he bin' presented a
petition from one clerk of die crown in Ireland, who declared he
' had paid for assistance in one year a larger sum titan this bill
allowed both for his own remuneratiod and usaistance.
The Earl of 1.1 MERIC K must say that agreat proportion of
the iniseri.s which had accumulated upon his unhappy country
hail been nggravateal by the
.gross transactions of grand juries;
and all that could touch die jobbing propensities of such assem-
blies ought to be encouraged. (Hear, hear.) Ile must also say
that the clerks of the Crown had their full share of the unsaid,
for their habit of splitting indictments; the clerks of the peace
had gone still farther, for instead of hundreds a year they looked
for a remuneration of thousands—lie knew one who had 3,0001.
a year. He hailed this bill as the harbinger of a system of con-
ciliation for Ireland.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought it absolutely necessary
that the grand jury presentments should be put nom a maw
looting; but still he thought the details of this bill had not
received the fullest consideration. He would not enter into the
question of patent rights, nor how far salaries annually voted
could be deemed to confer vested interests; btill the matter ought
to be inquired into, and it could not be done in a better way than
in that pointed out by the noble lord opposite (the Earl of Do-
noughtnore.) If this bill were now put oil, he would engage to
bring in one precisely the same principle in the next session.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN said, that the on 4 objection
to postponing the bill was removed by the noble earl's pledge to
bring in a measure having precisely the same object in view
eatly next session.
The bill was then ordered to be read a third time this day
three months.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that in fixing the second
reading of the Irish Insurrection Act for Friday next, he had
some doubts whether they could then proceed to business, that
day being the anniversary of his Majesty's coronation.
Lord HOLLAND stud, that if it were usual to keep the
anniversary as a holyday, they must of course do ro now.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he must try a long
way back for precedents, as the anniversary of his late Majesty's
coronation never Kill during the sitting of parliament.
It was then understood that the debate, if not taken on Friday,
would be on Monday next.
Lord SIDNIOUTH fixed the Prison Acts Bill for either
Friday or Monday, in the same manner.
On the motion of Lord ERSKINE, the Cruelty to Animals
bill was committed, after a few words from the Lord Chancellor,
who reserved his observation for the third reading.—The report
was received and agreed to.
The house then adjourned.
THURSDAY, JULY It.

Mr. Brogden and others frum the Commons, brought up the
Leather Duties Reduction Bill, the kWh endowed Schools, and
the Duchy of Cornwall Bill.
p The Scotch Spirits Drawback Bill was read the third time and
passed.
The Annuities Memorializing Bill, after a few observations
from Lord Ellenborough, was read the third time and passed.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, in the absence of a noble vis-
count, postponed the second reading of the Prison Laws Consoli-
dation Bill until Monday. The house then adjourned.
FRIDAY, JULY 19.
The Scotch Juries Bill was read the third time and passed
The Insolvent Debtors Amendment Bill was read the second
time, committed for Monday, and the Lords summoned.
The Irish Insolvent Debtors' Act Amendment Bill, and the
Leather Tax Reduction Bill, were read the second tame, and
also the Duchy of Cornwall Bill.
The Earl of LIN ERPOOL laid on the table the second re-
port of the commissioners appointed to enquire into the revenue
of Ireland. The noble earl recommended this document to the
serious attention of the house.
The Earl of LIMERICK concurred in the recommendation
made by the noble earl.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, if the report pointed to
to any serious evils, the same ought to be met with a remedy.
Lail DARNLEY again called the attention of his Majesty's
goverinnent to the stationery transaction in Ireland, and again
urged the propriety of ample enquiry into that subject, which
had not yet been sufficiently investigated.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved a resolution, pledging
the house to a renewal of the bill for regulating the grand jury
presentments of Ireland. This resolution was moved iu con-
sequence of a late bill on the subject having been withdrawn,
ou the grounds of a want of information. The notion was
agreed to.
The Earl or LIVERPOOL rose to move the second reading
of the Irish Insurrection Bill. The noble Earl observed that
the state of Ireland made it necessary last session of Parliament
to pass, not only the insurrection act, but the habeas corpus
suspension act. lie was happy to state on this occasion that it
would not be necessary to renew the habeas corpus suspension
act. With respect to the bill before the house, the despatches
on the table received from the noble marquis at the head of the
government of Ireland, alleged that considerable implovetnente
had been made in die state of Ireland, which he ascribed to
the operation of the Insurrection act ; and the noble marquis
left room to infer, that if the bill was withdrawn it would pre-
vent progressive improvement. With the correspondence,
such u it was, before Parliament, the house would not do their
duty by the empire at large, and the quiet loyal inhabitants of
Ireland, if they did not give the government the discretionary
excise of that power to which the security of property was to
be solely attributed. The noble earl concluded by mewing the
second reading of the bill.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE did not feel justified in a-
rming opposition to the passing of the bill, at the same time 110
could not consent to give a silent vote on the question. N 1 bole
c admitted that it might be a bill necessary for the safety of
Ireland, he could attach no merit to it as nu isolated measure.—
The noble marquis at the head of the Irish government stated
in his ilespatehes that the act had the of restoring spe-
cious tYnnngnillity ; but if it were withdrawn for a moment, that
tranquillity would be disturbed. There was a deeply rooted
system of disorder iu the society of Ireland, which could only
be removed by constitutional measures, having a direct ten-
dency to ameliorate the condition of the people of dint country.
The people should Pei that they hail not to rely upon the micro,
of any Lord Lieutenant armed with nitemistitutioual power, lout
upon their own constitutional law. The noble marquis objected