The National Register.
London, England, 1812-06-21 00:00:00

THE NATION A L REGISTER.

JUNE 21

By discontinumg the Bounty on Printed Goods . .
Hides and Skins . . ,
Glass
Tobacco . • • .
Auctions
Post Office
Assessed 'faxes Ca
le
Servants
Carriages . . . .
Horses and Dealers .
Dogs . .

.f::;08,0(X)
325,000
3'28,000
107,000
100,000
220,000

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. . £155,000
39,000
269,000
31,000
21,000

Galle Certificates .

515,000

,903,000
This was an excess above the sum they required by 30001. and he had
no doubt but the subjects proposed by him, would fully answer the
estimates he had made of them. He should detain the Committee no
Laiger than to move, that it is the opinion of the Commit tee that the
sum of 22,500,0001. to be raised by way of annuities, be granted to his
Majesty for the service of the year.
Mr. Husxissou thought it would be much more beneficial to the
country to raise the supplies within the year than to continue the system
of loans, which must end in rujn. He also made some observatious on
the deficiency of the revenue of Ireland, which was princirally caused
by bad management in collecting.
Mr. Guts objected to the tax on horses used in husbandry, because
it would not be very profitable, and because the farmers could afford no
snore to the State. The farmer's property had already been taxed on a
supposition that his profits were 3 4ths of his rent. The resolutions were
then put and agreed to.
Mr. W. POLE then brought forward the Irish Budget, the Resolu-
tions on which were agreed to, after a long conversation, and the House
adjourned at two o'clock.

THURSDAY, JUNE 18.
There being only thirty•six member) present at four o'cluck) the
ilouse of course adjourned.

FRIDAY, JUNE 19.
ORDERS IN COUNCIL.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, when that great question was, on Tuesday last,
before the House, he did not think it necessary to press the House to a
division, though he felt confident, that if be had dune so, the object of
his motion would have been carried. From the language that night em-
ployed by the Noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh), and from the various
interrogatories and elucidations which took place from both sides of
the House, he thought there was an end to the question, and that lie
should not be put to the painful necessity of bringing it again before
them. That hope was shared with him by all the trading interests of
the nation, and he now held in his hand letters, expressing the great
joy and exultation felt, not only by the employers, but by all classes of
workmen in various parts of the country—letters, with the contents of
which, if the House.were acquainted, they could not but congratulate
themselves on what they bad done on the nightwhen the question was
before them ; but how bitter was his disappointment, and how hitter
must the disappointment of the cOuntry, when they now found that
America was nut in reality to be conciliated, that the Orders In Council
were still to be stickled foroind that, though Ministers had given up.the
principle, no advantage was likely to fie derived from that surrender.
• He understood that the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) mentioned an imme-
diate suspension, but now it seemed they were to wait for six weeks,
until some negotiator was shipped off for America. He understood,
that the suspension was not to be confined to a limited space of time,
but now it appeared that it was to be limited ; and that, unless France;
in the mean time, revoked her Berlin and Milan Decrees, or in case of
refusal on the part of France, if America did not, in such event, agree to
resist the Decrees of France, the suspension was no 1 )nger to continue.
Was this, he would ask, a revocation ? Were the merchants of this
couuntry—was that House to be thus tricked and fouled out of the hopes
into which they had.been thus unfairly led, of seeing an amicable tenni-
!'ition to the differences between the two countries.—(Hear, hear !)
'1 'he expectations- held out by Ministers turned out, after ail, to be a
mere mockery. Every thing that occurred since the night the question
was discussed showed this to be the case. Every day since brought
• with it some retraction from the promises then made. It now appeared,
that during the suspension,severy American vessel found sailing towards
a French port, was to be brought into a British one, nut indeed for the
purpose of adjudication ; but whateVer may be the purpose, the reser-
vation of such a power must ever preclude any beneficial result that
miaht otherwise arise from a temporary suspension. Why was conces-
slanto be made in such an unmanly, niggardly manner ?—(Hear, hear I)
—Why
would Ministers act in a spirit so stingy, so mean ? The time
now pressed. The manufacturers of the country we e waiting, in
breathless exp ectation for the measures that may be adopted. His
object, in now calling upon the attention of the House, was to implore
of Ministers, that they would not issue such an Order as that they had
in cotueinplation; for by such an order, he was c aifid,at they could
not gain any thing ; thty could not proceed one inch on their way to-
wards couciliation.—(lleor, hear !)—lif the order was issued, be shouldfeel it necessary) once more, to call, the attention of the /louse to the.

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subject. It was for this reason he desired th..t efouies., • d
over. He was certain, if the subject came once more into discussion,
the Ministers would give it up ; because they would rather give up any
thing than their.places.--( A laugh.,)—He did not ask of the Gentlemen
opposite, to give up their places. '1 hey, on his ( Mr. Brougham's) side of
the House, had ample reason to be satisfied with all the Gentlemen had
yet done. They had gently and obligingly yielded up every thing that
was required of them.—( A lazqh.) And with the exception of the
great question, it appeared as if they had changed places with his
friends, and immersed themselves in the dark and dreary night of oppo-
sition. As soon at it was known In the city, that the Orders were at an
end, and that the measure was in substance removed, shipments were
immediately commenced. He saw one merchant, who in common
years used to send off for America goods to no less a value than
1,500,0001. and who would immediately put in preparation for that
market what would employ not less than 100,000 persons for half a year,
but would lie attempt it under such regulations as were proposed ? No
such thing. He saw some merchants that very day, who Informed him
that not one shipment would be made under the regulations proposed.
The House may depend upon it, that if the American market was to be
hung up upon any thing. that Buonaparte may do, that market would he,
as long as he could, lost to this country. [Here the Hon. Member read
a communication he had received from the Underwriters at. I.lnyd's,
stating, th .t under the proposal temporary suspension, with its attendant
regulations, they would not underwrite at less than from 20 to 251. per
cent, but if the revocation were unconditional they would do i- at from
3to 41. per cent.' He would conclude by expressing his desire thet
either the Orders should be alloweet to exist as before or give teem up
altogether. • Unless some satisfactory explenation were given by the No-
ble Lord opposite, he would persevere in his motion of having the
House called over on Wednesday next.
Lord CASTLEREAGH did not rise to oppose the motion. The Hon.
Gentleman had indulged himself, as was always his custom. in desul-
tory argument, and in a statement brought forward in total miscon-
ception. He felt no personal gratitude to that Hon. Gentleman for not
dividing the House on Tuesday last ; he (Lord Cestleleagii) abstained
from it that he may not be considered as wishing to display an unworthy
sort of triumph. When the documents on this subject should be before
the House, they would be better able to judge of the matter. He de-
precated the custom of merchants communicating to Menabei sof that
House such conversations as they might have had with any Member of
the Government. It tended to destroy all confidence, and teach men
in office to avoid in fut..re any such communications.
Mr. PONSONBY wished to know when the Noble Lord expected tb
have the Documents before the House ?
• Lord CesrtEßeAcu answered when they should be in existenence.
Perhaps, on Saturday, or at farthest, on Monday,
General GASCOYN E thought that every step should be taken towards
conciliation with America.. •
Mr. Ruse said he never saw such gloom prevail in the City,as upon
hearing that the Orders were to be suspended.—(A laugh.)
Mr. BROUGHAM answered, that he believed that gloom arose from
the Loan.
ei.Mr. BARING did not like half-way measures. They would lead to
no permanent or useful result.
Mr. WI ea E FUACE was'of opinion, that if concession were at all to he
made, it should be done in suelia way, as to open the Intercourse be-
tween the countries as soon as possible.
Mr. CANNING was convinced that much anxiety prevailed upon this
subject, and the sooner some decision was come to the better. If any
part of the principle were to be given up, ir should be done in such a
way, as most to advance the interests of manufacturing classes of the
country, and prevent misconception.
MR. SHERIDAN.
Mr. 'Wei, FITZGERALD having stated toethe I-lousy, that the illness
of a Noble Lord (Yarmouth) prevented him from attending-the House
that day.
Mr. SHERIDAN said, that he had himself waited upon the Noble Lora
to-day, and lamented that he found him in itich.a state of indisposition,
as shut out tile pceeibility of his attending in his place. I: was by we
I means h:s (Mr.Sheridae',) lineation to enter into a repetition of the con-
versation that had taken plate between them, or to touch upon the :id•
vice said to be given by him in disapproval of the Noble. Lord's assu-
rance, with respect to the medikated resignat'on of the Household...-.
He would, however, say afew words upon the bservatent of a Right
Hon. Mend of his ('sir. Tierney) that he (Mr. Sheridae) bad Offerild to
bet five hundred guineas that the H, usehold would iioe.eesigtes ,Itethe
'first place he was never in the habit of bet.ing at al!, and in the next
• he was sorry .1.6 eßight Honourable • Frieod had not said that he had
• staked the five hundred guineas, for then the story tvould hive been
totally dis:redited.—[el laugh.)—Bilt if he had said, bl 4 five
bench ed gubiaai, or,ewliat was more probable, five guineas," Vpon
that or any other subject, he did not see why in a passing • coiiver-
sati •n such a trifling thing should be caught hold of arid• brought
o that House in the shape of a great and unanswerable accusa-
-1 ; ti.oi. If such was to be the case, lie should think n neaeseary, when
friend a•kt d him how he did in the streets. to pause be fore he answer-
' i ed. (A la tglt ) He had said be believed the 1-I usehold would not re-
! sign, becat se he knew that their resignation depended upon seine con-
"' s' tins eut circonutaucts, the knowledtp: of which was Nit Ude proof W 44

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he was at the bottom of all this Nenocietion. Mr. Sheridan here enter- h
ed into a statemeot of the .mariner in which he understood the Negocia-
tion was carried on, and mentioned several circumstances to chew that II
be had no hand whatever in the farmerien of the present Administra-
tin. It was composed of as.tofm: o to when; he had not the slight- 11
est personal enmity ; on the c.nitriry, he had much respect tor them,'
het he could tit vow with theta. Ile could never prevail upon his
e iscience to suffer him to support the ineastues of those men who wei e
a verse to the claims of the Ca; eo!ics of itei nd. He could no: at the
s ee time but acknowledge, iteit the Gentlemen over the way had, ;
• cc they carne into office, she•eli a good des! of active bent heiel ener-
r, for besides other perforneewes of then .s, the Order: is Council
inie'lt now be looked upon as rceelted, alt heith it was done in an auk-
sear), sloping, confused minuet:4;Ni. way—(A laugh). The glory which
the Noble Lord had anticipated tit m the future acts of Government
was, he trusted, intended as a kind of hint to the House. that he and '
his colleagues would pot into cife:t the ardent and well-grounded
wishes of the nation—that America should he our friend, that distress
should he banished from the shores of Great Britain, but above all, that
the Catholics of Ireland should find that their emancipation was to he
ffected, generously effected, by those very men who had previously op-
tosed it. The removal of inveterate and rooted prejudices was a virtue
which was nut misnamed when it was called generosity. Mr. Sheridan
concluded by moving—" That a humble Address be presented to his
Royal Highness the Prince Regent, praying that he would be graciously
pleased to lay before the House whatever Documents, connected with the
late Negotiations, lay in his hands, so far as such Documents may be
produced consistently with his sense of proprii ty."
Lord R. SEY MOUR expressed his satisfaction at the determination ex-
pressed by the Lords of the Household to resign in the event of a cer-•
tain change, and at the pains they had taken to publish that determina-
t an to the country.
Mr. name F Y said,.he could see no ohject in his Right Honourable
Friend (Mr. Sheridan) coming down to the House, except that of expres-
sing his disapprobation of the conduct of Lords Grey and Grenville.
Mr. Po NSONDY defended the conduct of Lords Grey and Grenville.
Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) made a few observations.
Mr. Wiwi BREAD spoke highly in favour of the conduct of Lord
Moira, and also of Lords Grey and Grenville.
Sir F. Be RD Err said, that he rose to make an observation, displaying
his own satisfaction, at die kind and candid conduct of his Royal High-
ness, throughout the whole of those fruitless negotiations, in which he bad
so fully complied with the Address of the House. He did not mean to say
that he approved of a mere change of Administration, which was not ac-
eempanied by a total change of measures, f.'r without that he could not
nugur any beneficial effects would result. That subject, however, he
would reserve for discussion en a future opportunity. He thought the
House would do right if it should, in place of the present Address,
vote another to his Royal Highness the Prince Regent, notifying
the Thanks of the House for his conduct during the late fruitless nego-
tations.—(Hear, hear!)
After a reply from Mr. Sheridan, and a few words from Mr. Hutch-
inson, the motion was put and nezatived.—Adjeurned. •

SATURDAY, JUNE CO.
The SPEAKER acquainted the Hone that he had received a letter
from Lieut.-General the Earl of Wellington, dated Fuente de Guivaldo,
28th May; acknowledging the receipt of his (the Speaker's ) I,tter,
communicating the Vete of Thanks of that House t►► his Lordship, and
the brave Officers and soldiers under his command, fur the assault and
capture of Badloz ; stating, that he had a'm►nunicated the same to the
Officers and army under his command, and acknowledging in handsome
terms their gratitude for the repeated marks of favour and approbation
conferred upon them ty that House, and the very handsome mode of
his conveying the
Mr.WHART4:N brought up the 22,500,0001. Loan Bill, also the Lottery
Bill, which were severally read a first time, and ordered to be read a
second time on `.looday.
The other Orslers of the Day were then disposed of, and the House
adjourned to Monday.

TUESDAY'S LONDON GAZETTE.

BANKRUPTS.

John rrliony Onrry, of Greenwich, broker, to surrender, June
20, 30 .it,;F t twelve, at Guildhall. Attorney, Mr. Dawes,
Angel- osir‘ . i•hr•Pg n rton -street.
William •p•r, ;:.te of Holborn-hill, bookseller, Jur.e 23, 50, at
twelve, and July 28, at one, at AttOrnies, Messrs. Gale
and Sun, Bedford-street, Bedford row.
John Hot-on, of the Old City Chambers, Bishopsgate-street, nicr•
Chant, lupe 43, 2.7, and July 28, at ten, at Guildhall. Attornies,
Wlessrg. Pearce and Son, Swithin's-lane.
Richard Carter, of Frampton-upon•Severn. Gloucester. mealman,
June 25, at five, Di, and July 23, at eleven, at the Bear Inn, Newn-
Attornies, Mr.f Lucas, Newnharn; and Messrs. Edmunds and
Son, Exchequer Office, Lincoln's Inn, London.
John Dufrene, late of Leeds, York, merchant, June 20, 27, and
July 29, at one, at Guildhall, London. Attornies, Messrs. G;llit and
Son, Bedford-street, Bedford-row, London.