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THE QUEEN'S TRIAL.

HOUSE OF LORDS, TIIVIODAY, Orr. lg.

The f.o,d Chancellor entered the linage at lea itleek.—
Plovers ..re rend, and the nadirs called ever.

The Ironns,l were in,

Alltenef&scogOnntookplacelwtweentlw.Lordelwwwellor
and Mr. Hoinchens, as Si the moaner in Which the Comma
were to resume the conduct of the prueeedindi. It elided to
enlline the Cowin.' to the hat, *ben the Lord Clntimeelloi
informed the frowned Counsel for the elefewee.tiel the goes.
time proposed to the wieners yesterday la the present state
of ttiet.e p.ncertletogi emit Pill be put.
Mr. !trona/hist, ash!, thid independent of the "amnion,
into the mortideratiou of which their Lottlebips had hero
drawn by misconception yesterday, he had another mowing'
to soilteoit in them of a tidally It Berens nature from that
which hut turn Enna'henry *erne& He wished to stele It
mow, merely with a ewe to the convenient* of their Laid.
rhipe. The rptemiMe whorls bad been over.reeled, he took to
be ski.: Orityllirr they runld Wallowed to ask a witness oboist
whet Z,.,. had told the witness Ilint Brown had totel Zang•
Lu Shunt they were rot shard to shrew what Cul. Drown hail
t"id 211"e'it sty tssrnioiat Miuni, withrost .fie eallint
&mot. Noe, whet they hind to sobatit to their lordships
way that this point vas ant raised at lilt by them They
warrele knieW •knw their lordship, had been led toes, the
Consideration of thus questiia, foe in fuel thew ertention hail
stothine "to do with char Cullum.' Doom bait mull to Zinc*.
The point which i.e had redly in mthosii, and which upon
so prineille. he appieltended, could br ruled stained throe,
was this—lf they could by the arts of Tutitra prove that he
had been a very metier eie•nt of Shia—which he called fur
a/nineteen a ....pimple/ley—though he knew he was not allowed
to assume in fart that their true'', he any ennspir
The Attorney (lesiertil interposed. He apprehended that
there runid he nn sediment. A operation had been put tun
witteree--it boa been "hies-tett by himself and Isis Learned
Friends, and nvir.rolint by their lorelnlops. It was ne
to state anuthet upiertioss before there could be any ardsmeol.
Mr, flemozbain said, shut was just the way in which
their lordships were led astray )esterilay. Me, Williams
was mispiod jo%l at the tints. that Le was phoceediati to
Lay the proper question before their Lordships, and 4 point
raised whirls it ea. • their intention to diorite. and
upon whirls their lordultip• were needlessly called to deter-
mine. If his Learned Friends savant to rime forwatd and '
object, they shoed.' first listcu sod learn what it was that they
Mine to object to.

TA, Aitustiey-Ceaeral ash]. that his Learned Friesas tin
She other stile rhuttid pti.irwrd ity steps. Lill theme prove
first, if tisty curld by Altunit that Zano baJ acted as as
agent.

The Solicilifrfleneral followed on she mane side. A• to
tX reflection thrown upon the conduct of baronet( and hie
flimiciorable 1ri....1p, its the COMM of these pineredioltd.
they bail been called opus. by their Lordships in support the
Bill. The Haase h.d determined to conduct the ettainitio-
tows standing In she rifles of evidence observed in the
Courts below. It was the tarty of the Connsel Intrusted
with the enrolee' of the propitiation In object to any ques-
tion nut ailnitssible by this • robs of evidence, 10%11111g the
&mien as so the prisprii ty or potting suet; question■ to
their Lordships, soil haring no interest whatever in that
derision.

Mr. Williams hoped that their Lordships would Was the
swimmer I.

The boa Chant..llor t►ry prompity declared that he fur
tree epporrd it. 'ihry had ■lrewdy expended to, snarls time
its e alresilleeraed.neeleee dueesseeion. The Oration pat had
bete ear•reaird, II •iahcd the Cuomo,' to so en to the
eras eistratiun. '

Mr. Williams th dared, that, f.nm iris having been pre.
/waited from ttaiing what he was shunt tut state, which woolsl
have had the • fleet of .hewing how far Zeno% agency might
be proved, their Lordshope were lid into a misconception„
sod an argiimeat was mused ou the other ski, whorls bad n.h.
Ibtug tu du wills the euhkes be was about to lay before their
Lordship* lie pledged himself to that fact.
E.rl Grey said, that as it appeared to him, the gerstion
had been totally missine.e.sint.d. The tell question was now,
as to the silencer of adotititut pr.wf that Zing. was * coo.
spirals* at-tiost the Queen, and in emsfuousity with the
ontitiam wheels the Suave bad pronounced, the Learned
Coarse! egatn•l the 8.11 orght optu the nature of the erhouttle
tu Lordelsire, by which they proposed to slow their
right t 0 ht log the evident, to prove 7.r;a.. altencY in the
conspiracy. It apoteared to him that. according to the op;.
nitre given by the Judges, Mr. Brunhaos had a tight to be
heard urn that paha.
The Lao I of Isverpool canto/mart, that Ibis
was a new lAA
atmmalohe measure, to heeits a us a ease its the cosine if
the divert ease for the def. nee, whirls as. not itoeltuled in
the opeaiitg of the defence. by which he apprehended, if he
understusent the vissaistsi of the Judge* telstly. they acre
I•mited is the case far the as:fel:re. lie an, eratood from
the Judzts that if were ilotroded to prate conspiracy the
rhatge of con.isirary most be Vic:hard its the ritelting speech
C.:. the derma.. A. far as he could r. cull. ct the words
of %Ir. Ps trochee' they were 5.. tido.. Feet :—.l I do nut charge
any Parties with a chospirace. hut if there were a rowspitary,
the acts of the whist wouttl be just a. have hceit cotausithd
tai • CCII•it/A:. I!. ApVlrl.rAded that the Chemise! fur
the Clutch could nut be allowed to persue the course ru-
ins...al by them.
Lord Erskine tletiOrd that this was n new and anamalott•
'l"enlinn• lie e'l.a ',all, at admit that the question of get.
ire frhm %liana hat had tooen froth Coluitel Brow. in
hie couture:than a I II 7u.ea, ems vets po ',petty uverru!ril.
Kit the sea•ts mow oill. red au. A ..eee tea., 'hornet-.
y that id
proving 7Allta to be sit agent in the conspiracy: This
the or hail a right to 4... either hy h.gioentg with the re.
metal evotirher. aO.l ham( the arts upon the iudividual,
or by fink( IsfuVlAl( She 1111111 ag. hey. Their load.
ships were to suppose a ruse tod toolietinent fur conspi.
racy, nod then Oh, would the list the evidence a!!ainst the
eon.pirstore might he taken in soy .'ruler which should be
those., by the Chesnut for the prumout . Ile denied that a
chanted was limited by bow opeettig, sum ch ma to Ilse proof of a
conspirsey The ton.itsmcy milli, route to his knitseedge only
a moment hefts'e he had concluded its% dt-te‘ce. Was i.e then
to he excitor.' felon the wood' of if, myridy because the guilt
of the prosecutor was out k ',own till love its the meantime!
The Noble Lord contended that it was eruipetriti fur Chen.
set to say *hat they were about to proves, hot !teethe made a
rs eider virtuous!. protcycol azatosot the idea that that
house ass to be coluoiselled by the dudge• iu a great pro.
creolthe like the present. The Conrad uui;ht to have sufS.
a tent 13111 itd, conolosetine his
The Etrl of Lauderdale said. Le lisle stealer oi.jeetion to
the Counsel mt •itoe upend m.okinga lone argument previous
It. pyithig the tiursiteo, nor that tnevit.tbly led to a replica-
tion from the Counsel us Cie other side, which chtorely stop.
pt the poucced•ro!!..
[The common ..1 the Jul!ge4 wag then read at the desire of
a Ntlesdr t'rer.]

The Lir: of Darn!ry said he 11:601,114 think himatifJefie:rnt
:n I i duty if to. !lid not take the raj hest .x.
pro•s.i.gg his sllo.rtsi from the To.,po.4trots of the NUI:1!! EA, I
orporlie. If Iv- 1,•::::tly 111,4100.1 the Noble goer, br con-
tended ttr.l !h. it were trot et linerty in that in.
rpm, to rotor any r xreninattoo not opened by the
Leariird Cote•toet at the bar. Ile dot ersorrive that It was
utterly itutan.sib c to go on c itb that r trraurifinary sad tinily.
cedeincit pr. ci.cding soy hope t,t olutog j twice, if the
tointsel *cr.. to he precluar.l from 'wincing forward any
evidence which they might think e•••rnlt4l, allkollVt it had
not bccsi stati.d in the oreiting. Ile had bored and treated
Thal bin: ere 'hi.. lime a pininwition. Poi Cum the side of
the House ill which he had the honour to sit, but rout.
its; with authority—he repeated ha hod bopert, that see-
ing the heritirstirory of the evidence for be Bill, mad the
nastier it bad keel sluice by tie evidence fur tie de.

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he the *me as to all the patsies who were earned is f 1;
HS effect in this ramie +mild he the p.m.., and therefore. he '
eriatended he ha I a right to pr,ive it. ifiitoisid the Attorney.
General, " Why olon't you rail Zimra"—What I call bim'—
him, the very ear tie shorn my (hared wills the erima
hien to prove it by evidence of his owes arta! Coati,
his loaned Fronds aloe soloed tha, Move been sinilying
those very eases' 1.. a hurls they had r. revved > fled they
Hove Coma ihal Mr. Thelwall, or Mr. Tooke. or any of the
parts.. cheroot with the Prime, bail het n taken tram the
dock and placed its the willows box to prove their own acts
is evidence of that chaoge i They charged She galls of this
• manirairacy against Zama—and had lie been a perraol 'ambient
lw this tannery, or within else range of tie law,', or the readi
Of its legal power, thee wrothil hare plural loom at the hie Its
a/ewer that charge. Bat it was really ton much to rnppu.af
' I.ving where he slid, mint of reach of the ernrante of
Use laws, that he would readily comply with any is.
Oltation, or letter missive, he come and place Mengel,
it their her to give evidence of :leis conspiracy, when the
*eight of the charge lay agaisat lontsrle each a gala, laugh*
be pole* new to him. But he hoped the Attorney.Genorral
Is his reply would show him she rule ..f law lie teed relay dis-
diserreed, by witirh the crime .barred against any proem was
he prevail by she evident.e of the individual himself. In
sit the grate trial., and all prom-aims for conspiracy of
oimitar Pat wee, evolettris was always gone in to of • the generall
state of the ereontry, sad of a variety sir acts of various per-
anns in doffetent part., in order I. prove a roisopitary ; wires
thee any ormaxion exiated between that conspiracy and the
person charged, appeared afterwards. As the charge of con.
"piracy necessarily involved more than one person, lulus by
some axtrasontiesary good fortune it Incense passib'e to take
them all together, lite mucosity of the cue wort.' oblige
them to be hunted down need proceeded egoista use by one,
se they could Ike discovered; and in this way moat the con.
@piracy he first of all proved, and that once demr, it only re-
'naiad for them afterwards to rbsw the particular connexion
of each separate ineltvidual, as ihry were placed nos trial,
with the :moral plot. Thu., he neutered. 01, was the comae
pursued its all such cues; and voles' this practice, and the
rule laid down by the indult, un which it was founded,
were proved to be erroneous, he comended this evidence
must be admitted. He hoped his Learned Friend, in Gn-
awer, would confine bra reply to what he had said and what
he really menu', and not again contend against what he had
nut said, nor against incomings he glean* had concerard.
Mr. Stoneham raid he would he brief in the comment he
had to make spun the pain statement of the argoomoni by
his friend Mr. Willoatoe, not to waste their Lordalops' lime.
What they any sought was to implicate Zanga. To Mph.
rate by this evidence either Coloutt Brown, or the Milan
Commission, was not their object at portent, whatever it
weight !terraria become; bat it do i nut follow that because
tio•I did not scek to fix the conepiracy amen them, that
they were to be precluded from fixing at upon any other
person. If misty could show that any peison had done
any act 'effecting the peacetimes in this cape, such as
obstruceing or tampering with the witnesses fur the de-
feat, or briblag or suborning, or sittnipting to Indic or
subteen witnesses to give evidence in support of the Bill, he
cared nut what his name might lie, be contended that they
had a right to give evidence of that act. If he could prove
that Zanga had made the offer and the &Thermion inn.
puled to him, be did contend that he had a right so to do ;
and the only way to shut him oat from praise' it, the only
Way to keep out his evidence, was by declaring, that erns
admilling it to he proved, it was molly irrelevant to this
ease, and could nut at a;I affect the 'sans now before them.
Yon must be prepared to say that, or mho ranee you cannot
shut out this evidence. And luk ran any man so say? I
pot it to any individual—the Judges—l mean those Noble
peewees who are toiled& this question. Let any man ask him-
self this question, whether he would ant pause the more be-
fore passing this Bill, after I shell have proved tits tale,
whirls you have wily heard in statements, throe of lie bad never
had it broneht in Ma knowledge. What is it lam offering'
I ans offering proof of a man who is making himself an
agent—l care not whether Brown le, or who are his em-
ployers; I may bereafeer fix him with that alor, but I begin
with the proof of what he (Zings) did. sod I say, even if I
am lever able to bring it home, I ask, if any man wutild
nut patoe the more tiller what l fix nu Zraga ? What
is said to have been done? Swear you 'gamut she
Prince,. of Wales and you, shall have a reward " Say*
the man, " I cannot, I rrrrr saw her, I know nothing
agaiat her, I armor wee at her place of abode" Say.
Zang% What signifies that, I will supply you with that
knowledge, I will take you to the place of her 'thud.,
where all the witnesses have been, and she is said to
go on this promeoade with Brawn as well as with other
men and women, all yon have to do is to say what I shall
tell so., and you shall have these Napuleons--eoune let ale
and fix a place, fir it is true sloe was there at a raisin Issue,
and a'l rot have to do is to add (and which I admit is
not true, but it is what you have to say) that you saw
&Irian atilat• her Royal Highness—kiss leer." Suppose I
prove this, and its order to 'hew that I have a right to
prove it, you mot assume I east prove it. You most be
prepared to say, that it will nut better the Qteeom's defence
and not damage the prosecution. Is it nut monstrous'
Can any man depart the it will make a difference in the
ease Can any wean lay his hand opals his heart and say,
according to his conacience, and upon his homier, and giv-
ing his vote for or against the Bill which is to ruin ibis
Queen, that the having proved such a story as I have now
stated would nut make the greatest difference its Ins judgment !
My friend, must be prepared to my that it will nut make
the slightest difference in the issue now before yam. I say
I go a great way if I can prove that means have been take te
to bring perjured wilnemes before you. My Lords, it is
said we mat assume the p resibiliiy of a conspiracy on booth
sides; and it is said, may out all this have been got up in
ender fur ale to raise this olij viol,. This proceed. from
the effact of the s yobnice, and the questims of its.eum.
patio yor itocompeteoley. Brit, my Lords, 1 pray you to
distal., such auspicious from your nand., and I will put one
questiate, whleh, if I do out greatly deceive myself, well
11•. we the arm! of allaying it. Ido not deny 114 porribility
of comptracy us the part of the Queen—l have no doubt
but that in • legs! argument you Mort adroit the possibilit",
and that it will weigh a loth! its the scale in dealing in a nowt
of law. Du your Lordships think it very likely, w likely al
to make it worth consedering in the coarse of this legislative
procetolisra—du you think it likely that the Queen its
March, ISIS, before she was put upon her trial, and whets
there was no chance she would be put sin her trial, and be-
fore the Milan Commission had proceeded one step, that the
should have breast) provident, mu lodate to discover a defence
against charges which, fur any thing d.ekarw, might wryer
be mole; so very circumspect, so extremely ionvident,lhat
she Almelo/ foresee that in July 18'.10 procco ditip sere la
he instituted against her, whirh I am mire the Wapiti, and
the has wise, perhaps the more probable, to •err road have
thoonglot of. That she should lie folic the recor.ls of
Pao hammot, looking at H' °nett'. case in one taw, end
Bishop A tterhisry's in another, sod lois said to herself, " It
Is very likely there will he another such procearlong as there
was in former times, mud then, as it wilt he brought forward%
I shall I.e aware bow to go on ; and my Leather' ekonesel will
be able to du nuthing without maleroals, suit, therefore,
must send soul Leidy to go to Zsnza, and isiVeigle Zat.ga
i stn o conifers:Aloft, •nil then that may afterwards avail
my Counsel." My Lords, if she did so, she era some.
thing more 'ban the must proVi•lcilt of human kind ;
blot if She slid so, it wail certainly not the wisest step she
could lake, fir she was enakierg toeranoS to Ming things
'masa her. My Lords, Idu nut deny boot that there things
sue possible, because there is nothing t!..it it not posaohle,
but I would only submit that that morsiboly is of a •pecirs
which lawyers denominate airy mid remit.. possibilities. It
Is necessary that your Lordships should keep tram your
minds any supposition that we sue impeaching Colonel
Brown, but that we are defending the Queers,. kk'e are
offering evidence to defend leer fiajrsy. Your Lord:hip.

Petscf( 7(1.

mia.tritk•rAre that Iron do 1.01 torn morel rm., pr sr e is in
thesitsration isf prosecirt,o., and the oiloq• -ole she drew.
;butts. We. are Only Intelee sea an mach eeee t • ..1e,..• el r !y .1, is.
I airy In defend the (Aileen—we are atilld•todards, they are
! atilt the proserwrrur 1.40 yr
' Thy A ttonsey-Mm•ral —Whatever nri•ondrutdaudirly might
have prevmded I oil 'venire on ti.,. fir.“4l ~,,, I trend sr
• Learned Friend. with nut lir, r .fter roottil .o, /bit it .nekee not
• our been dir•rurt•rd ..n all el. E folela./4 I elefea fin., a ever
, to have been a turrourl Tarim ti..‘ on the rutirjer-t 1 fir re els
' be so throb, shat %Tr %Vl",anla sm., rl %••tm.l,y that re-
! port. uterr.b•trott evritrorur no lid. purr ..f Orr rise. llow
! had he arened it to .I” ? %Irby. I admit Shit 1,. Ills aim 41.
1 it legally, bit my f.imol. 1:r. linmeham. cr. a rip Me.
Willeumr*4 urturrrerd, and h•• srett..d fir the heel harborer
r behwe noir lorgirdrip., that whettor 1eg,14 or iii,.r.,11 the
I evidence most he admitted ..n principle, whirl, prompt. his
• 4 preyed( ti in the previon• part of tots sogno!. I my.
isy Lords, that Is not to Is permuted, for if lest., had • .
I intended Ora dews to le. opturerl, you •,.rsold have ore•ed It
rat the Iteginniog. You 112., heard if a rompiesry of
! the Milan Courtmirmiutt, bur trow that Is abr.:4,l,rd. and
' ii is to b • • enitepirsey of Z toga, and a co,einrsey us'
i other persona who are whol's rineomierleil ari!h !It ,i tom-
! moismii. Whitt winuld have been the laisausz• of my
iirsin Leariowl Frisorl if we had brauglai evideurt• iii a hit pee-
s had heard respectine the combed of the Queer. ? W.
littotild have tomt met. a••d moist property met, by Mr.
.Ibeesielisat sating, .• Stop, *top! we (monist !terror, y"e to
give 0141 evidence'' So 1 ea, here, ft it imgmobte to per-
mit this reot,ore In ter f•er ••..d. Thior • vukurre would sot
be received is the Court• below, and Illfeer WO*, my Lord., ia
L. rig are iirting as Jude. a, I li.epa and 1.110 i-no Well nol allow
My Lords, we have ou eel& Ore Ow wry rrf thus wit.
messes who ha,. lie. it cammini tt were srehnrio d by any per-
goo. according to their Hsu • rid•nee. Mr. Rom/limo atys,
.We don't aecioe Vibmoesti or Wolin." Why, .bat lave
they been doing for the.e list slicer or four days but motes-
rouring to implicate them in a disbulical c dt,purter ! Your
Lordships have hero draws. away from the inquiry of the
Qtweii's case. before the taw fur the dill:sore is ha tune
through. The reason for so (Mime is oilstone. I dot not
say they ought to roll Zings, bug I mid it they did not rail
his they ought to call evidence to prove that his ails were
whom, 4 by the Mll,l.in Commissoni. Sometimes the no t-
apiraturs are the Vilest Coninsisstua, at others they are 24ima
sad his funds, and person. we eta Itsiow uothiog ..r. My
Lards, the case for the prusecutioa ha* lima ritstrieted to
the strictest confines of law, aid yet your IdOrdahlrel are to
permit my Frieada to depart frum those roles in the middle
slif she defence, Itemise they sty it may weigh on your minds
hereafter.

The Earl of Himunghmnre •aid, be untold shortly state
why the queation thuwld n•rt be pat. The Coriiiord fur her
Royal Highness bid alleged a (nap', scy, and had rose boo
the particular statement, and bid placed themselves moiler
the decision of the Judea. Their Lordships were, t erefs..re,
in fall possession of every part of the rare as ii related tus
the ronapirary. He an, at a am then to I; raw her such srai-
deuce as bad been propotod could be received, a ',riot Ih.ir
Lordships went the length of itilencluing err y king of ewi.
deuce, even to the length of a • unless deposing, that a mu
told bum that another man told him that there was a cira-
apirary; or that they would to the kneels of saying, if .
Counsel stated that a conspiracy bad ex. siert, tl eir Lord-
ships would admit any eyeliner- he thought prhper to pro-
duce. They mast ul r this, before they alhwed she witness
to Sell them what Zags told hum. Their Lesslabipe tallow
nothing of Zulu; he was in no away connected with this
ease; the witness miebt at well talk of any other men at
Milan as of Zanga. He sieved that their Lordship• ought
In look at the evidence of the %classes in support of the
Rill with the greatest cantina and suspicion ; for it did ap-
pear that sumo agents its support of it had acted inipro-
mily in collecting the witnesses. He was not, hammer,
prepared to repudiate the wbule man of evtilemire, became
some part of it ought nut to be believed, on account ui
agent. liaviug gar further than th .ir instructions. CAP.
*piracy errtainly was a bird wer.l--n laisgi; —hot wh..t
did it consist of that sum, agent, brisg over araloa•,
departeil from his instructions, and fur having done
so their Lordships were railed on to denominate it a conspi-
racy against the Illustrious Perannsge A r.rn•lnucy
been alleged, but, in his Laud, nut made out; for the last
Eve or six days every part of her n 4,3 fer.u.e
haul been furgntten by her Counsel, ■kid thee• had Area to J
it wee because some of the evtdeure of oh, witnesses In air-
port of the Rill had been diserieuLted, sti.d that they (use
Counsel against the Rill) would turn the tables out thrill,
and prove a conspiracy; but before they coati do that, it
would be their duty to roasters she euo.piraiors mith !Le
ocereditril agents of the Government. Ile was, therefore,
of opinion, that the coalition ought not to he put to ti.o
witness.

Load Easkine said he could not azr,e with the areanitrat
or the Ait.oroory General, or the conclusion that the Not
Earl (Dononghmore) hail come to. In his opinion Vie
'warped .Jude,,g is their decision on the cie.tion he hail pot
to them, had solmitted the right of the ea 1.11,11110.1.1 as fol•
lowed up by her Alojegig's Counsel, and ii that lit Ott& • i•
sot given, • conspiracpmevcr could be pro*. 01.
Tho Lord Chancellor observed, that if rot arts of 7.10ra
were received in evidence, it would eertculy be a novelty In
the judicial proceedings of the couutry. (in what ground
it amid be received he was at a Ivan 119 conjecture; Co if
she witness was allowed to deport-. to whit A B. said, fie
would be entitled to depose what was said by every person.
lire first letter of whose name could be tumid in the test if
the alphabet. in respect to agency, there was no proof of
its ever having existed. Then as to the conopWary, be btd
always conaiderrol that coospiratin• wise agents to lane
another, but here there was no agency proved; as to offering
to prove that people in Italy thought they might obtaio
great advantages if they dad en and mu, was proviognothisir ;
and VIII was allowed in one instance, they might tall avrofy
person inhabiting that pint of the continent to the sate
fact. In inippuit of this opinion, he would propioe
an anonymous lase fur the cosisideration trf their Loft'.
ships. lit opening this else, it was strongly stat..d
that the Illustrious Perso11:11;:t. ha 4 Contrived to mod
sway her F.ngli.h attendants fair the purpoie •f takihg
Derglion's (tinily and other foreigners tote her ser-
vice; much strew tertaiely bud been laid ora this ell -
economizer by the Counsel in monied of the Bill. lady
Linoliooy and otlms'of her Royal Ilighttem's attendants were
afterwurda ex minted to this point, and it arpeated they had
let her service from motives on their ties nitride. What
would he said then if a witness was rafted In say this he
heard Ilergsmi say that her R oyal llochness did pro rot ad'
her Enghoh attendants fur the purpose of tatawilueilig to a
family into her service ; would it be fur a moment attnaset '
Certainly nut; thew was no differvasee between the caw he
had put as it bore nu evidence, from that and.? licit roe -
sideration, and if their Lordships allowed the Mil to he tit
rot of by soils means, be had no hisitotion in saying
would be acting tiptoed every constitutional peitsciple.
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Lord itmaeorl.iit raid these wt. 111.1 widerce tV etWarCe
rine& with the peoceedirizt. Thews if the was 0.•
lowed to be post to the wit.ieee, rt wash! be rteritine
deuce eel wive toe penult lAA' knew nothipe of she lotions...,
foe which pnloots it teemed to Its Ii it it Mae ilap.nuble the
evidence could be allowed.

Earl Go .y ssid„ that wk3t he wniteratood by the deenlon
it the Judd*a was, that evidence to inure the autonomic.'
of informs,' should bt allowed; with thi• limpet:mart of his
mind, he was or Apiftwri Shia this erist nee csabl mot he
received. lie did trot *cm that she C 4*le put be the Ntitite
and Learned Lord int the 111'neibitek was analogous to this ;
fm the evidence bur: was to more slim T. MIA Wm* eneagist
is. a esinipssary ; but bt sse twit read be reLe:ved, it ain't
be proved dim he will moistend limb some nits e'rnsions.
Meh had not been dome, tie a eunaptrary ramie co...id of
more than one proems. It was not m (rids:nee that Zugs
was tinnier,. d wish the agents idtioserninent, or wt .% any
nil re re.or ; big having elms oat a the how* of Vitas-