The Sun.
London, England, 1855-07-04 00:00:00

BOW STREET-(THIS DAY).

THE CASH OF STRAHAN, PAUL, AND CO.

This morning William, Strahan, Sir John Dean Paul,
Bart., and W. ill. Bates, were again placed at the bar,
in accordance with the remand of Mr. Jardine.

The excitement, though not so great as at the previous
examination, was still very great ; the lobbies leading
to the court, notwithstanding, were densely crowded.
At a quarter past twelve the doors of the court were
opened, and, after a terrific rush for a few moments, the
court was filled to suffocation.

The prisoners seemed to have suffered very little dur-
ng their imprisonment.

Mr. Bodkin said it would be remembered when this
case was last before the magistrate Dr. Griffith had
charged the prisoners with making away with securi-
ties of a large amount. The evidence of Dr. Griffith
was quite sufficient with respect to Strahan. He had
hoped to be able to have adduced evidence to bring the
case home technically to the prisoners. But he bad to
state that difficulties had arisen in a quarter which
was least expected. He should, therefore, be under
the necessity of again asking for a further remand, and
in order to obtain the evidence required, and that the
apparent opposition might be explained. The learned
counsel then said, all the evidence he should offer to-day
was to the effect that, in April last, the bank was in
difficulties, and that securities to the amount of many
thousand pounds which had been lodged with the firm
had been disposed of. The case, so far as regarded
Strahan, he thought was complete, after the admissions
he himsalf had made. With respect to Mr. Bates, al-
though it was asserted that he was in France at the
time of the transaction, he should produce evidence of
a nature to prove that he was cognisant of all the proceed
ings of the bank. The learned counsel then called
Ramand Pelly, clerk in Messrs. 0 verend and Gurney's,
65, Lombard street, money dealers, produced a letter
signed by J. D. Paul, and addressed to Young, Esq.
The letter was to the effect that the Messrs. Overe,ad
would lend as much money as the securities sent would
recover. He was not acquainted with the handwriting
of Sir J. D. Paul.

John Young said he resided at 6, Size-lane, Bucklers-
bury. He was a solicitor. In April last he negotiated
a loan for Messrs. Strahan with Overend and Gurney.
He communicated with Sir J. D. Paul, who
wished him to raise 30,0001. Sir John brought him, to
the best of his recollection, securities consisting of
Dutch and Danish Bonds. Mr. Pelly was the person
he saw at Overend's. Sir John Paul remained at
his office while he went to Overend's. On his return
he communicated to him what had taken place be-
tween himself and Mr. Pelly. Mr. Pelly at .first
objected to lend 30,000/., but they were willing
to advance 27,0001. Sir John agreed to that propc,-
iition. The first application for the money took plac e
no Saturday, the 27th. He went over to Messrs. Over-
end's, hut, Mr. Chapman being absent, nothing cculd b
done. On the Monday following Sir John returne d
with the securities. He did not know whether he had

them with him on the Saturday. On the Monday he
saw, at Messrs. Overend and Gurney's, Mr. Pelly and
Mr. Chapman, and on that day the 27,0001. was ad-
vanced to Sir John. He (witness) signed the document,
which has the amount of the securities endorsed
upon it, now produced. The securities were
in the possession of Messrs. Overend, who in-
formed Sir John that only 27,0001. could be
Adva,nced. Sir John expressed his wish to take the
smaller sum. Mr. Chapman wanted to know the name

,f the borrower, but he (the witness) told Mr. Chapman
.hat he could not give him the name of the borrower.
Ele said Mr. Chapman's request was reasonable, and be
feturnod to Sir John, who wrote the note which be
(witness) took to Messrs. Overend, and showed it to Mr.

Pully ; and thus the 27,0001. was advanced. The arl-
vance was by an open note, or cheque, not crossed, to
liessrs. B %relay. The note was ca,-hid, and he (witness)
sanded Sir John 27 one thousand pound notes.
Mr. Bois, a clerk to Messrs. Overend, remembered.
the advance of 27,0001. to Sir John Paul. The securi-

ties were brought in a box. On the back of the " bor.
.-owed note " he wrote the description of the securities,.
"Thiel) at present was there. He produced one of each.
)ond—they consisted of Dutch, Danish, Upper Canada,
5 per Cents., and Brazilian. He produced one Dutch
Lod one Daniel].

John Hills, 3, Bartholomew-lane, stockbroker, said
:he handwriting of the " bought note " was that.
of Mr. Fitzgerald. He effected a purchase of 30,006
Dutch florins for Dr. Griffith on order of Messrs. Strahan,
,n the 27th June, 1849. Mr. Fitzgerald is not a clerk,
,ut he assisted him in his business. He had no entries
or orders in his book, only the name of the purchaser
appeared there. It was not the custom to enter the
lame of the parties commissioning them to purchase
took. On the 15th of April, 1851, he purchased MO.
Danish Five per Cents. for Messrs. Strahan. The home.
Jobs was signed by Mr. Cresswaller. The different plir
,:hases made for Messrs. Strahan amounted t 02,000/. stock.
rne name of the purchaser given us by Messrs. Straban
vas Dr. Griffith. Another purchase was made on the
ith of June of 5,000 Dutch bonds. This also was for Dr.
Griffith. _ _

Mr. Bodkin, to the magistrate—To this last, sir, is
thached the note in the handwriting of Mr. Bates.

Examination continued—The clerk of Messrs. Strahan
brought the order for the purchase. As a rule a clerk
called daily at Messrs. Strahan's. Sometimes the in-
structions were in writing, sometimes verbally. He
could only find the two written notes he produced. Ha
believed the notes to be in the handwriting of Mr. Bates.
The notes were here read ; they were for the purchase
stock. One of them directed 30,000 Dutch florins fot
Dr. Griffith.

By Mr. Parry—He knew Mr. Bates was a partner
in the bank. They purchased stock to the amount of
uundreds of thousands daily.

John Fitzgerald had been in the habit of assisting
Mr. Hills in his business. The handwriting on the
bought notes, viz., Ist, dated 10th April, 61 ; the 2d,
7th of June, 1849 ; and the 3d, the 4th of June, 1848,
was his. He (lid not remember any conversation with
Messrs. Straha n. He called at the bank in the morning
`or instructions, which were filed.

At the cone] usion of this witness's evidence the
'earned counsel said he did not intend carrying the case
further to•clay. He therefore had to apply for another

remand.

Mr. Ballanti ae, for Sir John Dean Paul, Bart., and
Yin Strahan, said he did not intend to offer any opposi-
; ion to the course proposed to be pursued by the counsel
`or the prosecution.
Mr. Parry said, with respect to the evidence
)rodueed to-day there was nothing at all to criminate
Vlr. Bates. The only connection he had with the trap.-
action was that o.n one occasion be inclosed a " bough,*
Iota" to Dr. Griffith. Mr. Pates stood in a very different
weition when compared with the ce'eer two gentlemen,
end they wished the circumstance to be fully known.
Crum it was that Mr. Bates participated in the partner,.
hip, and therefore was in a measure responsible for it 4
lebts and liabilities, but the participation in the partnershiP
vas in this light, that he drew 1,0001. a year in the shape
,f salary from the bank; but this was all he did. He dil
let receive any further sum, neither did he receive auf
,f the profits of the bank. He should be able to prove
,n evidence that _Mr. Bates, in regard to this matter,
tood merely as a manager or head clerk would
to in any other banking house. He should also
show that at the time the transaction took place
hat Mr. Bates was in France, and, therefore, he
ould not in any way be acquainted with the proceed-
nos going on in Loudon. If it was required, he would
.)ut in the passpo.rt and some other documents to prove
he truth of what he aserted, and under these circum-
stances he hoped the worthy magistrate would admit
its client to bail.
Mr. Bodkin said he did not like to contradict the
statements of his learned friend. Ho had been instructed,
end no doubt he believed in the truth of those instruc-
tions. But he (Mr. Bodkin) must oppose the applica•
,ion, as he had other cases to bring forward which would
,nvolve Mr. Bates in prior transactions. He also thought
that the application of Mr. Parry was at variance with
the usual mode of proceeding in cases such as the present.
Mr. Parry differed from his learned friend ; it hal
been done in hundreds of cases.
Mr. Jardine said that on general principles he did not
think he ought to make any distinction by admitting
Bates to bail. Ha was sure Mr. Bodkin had the
best grounds for what he stated, and therefore he must
refuse the application.
Mr. Bodkin then made an application that the wit-
nesses who had givecl their evidence to-day, and also
the rev. gentleman who was examined on a previous o'r
casion, should be read over to them and signed, in order
that their attendance might be dispensed with until
they were
required to give evidence in another place.
Jardine said he had no objection to that course
being Jase
being adopted.
The whole of the evidence taken in this case having
been read over, and several important omissions having
been supplied, the further hearing of this case was then
erdered to stand over until this day week at 12 o'el''H"

[We caanot close our report this day's proceeding°
without publicly thanking Mr. Jardine for his kindfloS
towards the gentleman who attended from this office to
report the proceedings in this case.]