The National Register.
London, England, 1821-02-04 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER

presumed to utter, who had dared to declare (hear, and
order), who had dared to declare that the Queen had
been approved and found guilty of adaltery.—(Hear.)--
The Hou, Member for Surrey had 1101 followed the wise
example of the Noble Lord opposite [Lord Castlereagh],
who had pendently abstained front comment on the sub-
ject i but, not having been called upon to judge the cause
—having heard, in all probality, the evidence but iinper-
feetly—hating, perhaps merely read the evidence without
seeing the witnesses—the Hun. Member came forward,
uncalled, unasked, to decline her Majesty in his firm
conviction guilty. Really when lie looked at the whole
Truitt of proceeding, and thought of the opinion which
the Hon. Member [Mr. H. Sumner had pronounced], he
did think that the Queen might have met a fairer trial
from a jury of convicted felons [hear,] with a judge not
appointed for political tergiversation. than could lie anti-
cipated from persons who condemned her even unheard,
The hon. and learned member then adverted to what bad
been said by Mr. H. Sumner as to the expenses of the Qua,
since her Majesty bad bees in this country she had received
at the rate of 3.1,000 L a year, sad Not a shilling m0re,....
Large advances had been spoken oft bet the boo, and
learued member would tell the House, that be, at the time
of her Majesty's first arrival iu &Ward, bud had occasion
to apply fur an advance to her of 5,0(01.; and that that
that advance of 5,0001. had been reftwed• It had been re-
fused, though wanted for matters of absolute necessity; sou
her Majesty had, for a time, been obliged to receive credit.
Because, forsooth, some one had told him that her atajegy
had not paid a certain bill, all the reel of the money which
she had received, had been disbursed in paying the preps, ~,
bribery, and in disseminatiug seditious and treasonable pub-
lications. (Cheers.) When boo. seats. viewed her situation
in this light, he trusted that not one of them would be found
who could view with any other feeling than that of sincere
commiseration for her sufferings.
Mr. Alderinau WOOL) trusted that there was not a single
member in the House who would give ciedit to the charges
which the lio 1111 l treble Member for Surrey had su boldly
arged against her Majesty, and all of which he (Mr. Wood)
asserted to be destitute of foundation. (Cheers.) He called
upon that honourable member to come forward, and to men-
tion any one bill of her Majesty's that remained unpaid.—
( Loud cr es of " bear.") The honourable member had stated
that none of her Majesty's bills were paid, and that the
money which she had received to pay them had been ex-
pended in promoting the most wicked purposes. The hon.
member. be expected, would not be prepared to prove the
charges which he had exhibited against her Majesty; but if
he could state one single bill that was unpaid, it was now
his duty to do so. (Hear, bear, from all sides of the Meuse.)
The hon. Member bad stated, that be was very anxious to
be a peace-maker, bat he (41d. Wood) left it to the House
to decide how far his present conduct was calculated to
make him so. (Cheers). He should not have intruded on the
uttentims of the House, had he not thought it necessary to
inform the House that there was nut the smallest particle
of truth in the charges just preferred against her Majesty.
Mr. H. SUMNER informed the House that the charges
which he had urged against her Majesty rested upon mere
hearsay. (Loud cries of hear, accompanied with syrup-
-100111 of surprise from the opposition benches.) He
had heard them pretty generally runmered. (Cheers coo-
-1 Homed.) As the worthy Alderman was 1101 an accredited
agent of her Majesty, he would continue to maiotaiu the
I charges which he bad made against every one of (Aid.
Wood's) unsupported aseertiems. (Hear, bear, from the
ministerial benches.)
Mr. BHOUGHANI said that the language used by the
lion. member for Surrey was the occasion of his addressing
the (louse agitate that evening. The 1 . member had ob-
jected to the worthy Alderman's explamitiou, because be
was not an accredited agent of her Majesty. This was the
usual trick with gentlemen on the other side of the House.—
Nothing, in his opinion, could be mere correct titan the
manner in which the worthy Alderman bad just come fire-
weed.
Mr. H. SUMNER repeated his belief in his former
charges.
Mr. Ald. WOOD did not wish that the hon. member for
Surrey would give him credit, but he trusted that the House
would give him credit, when he informed them that the ac-
counts were shown to him every month by the steward, in
order that he might see that no articles weee charged extra-
vagantly to her Majesty. Every article. down to the very
cools in the house, was paid for monthly; the furniture
which her Majesty bought at the Duke of Kent's sale aas
paid for; and if the hon. member would bring demo to the
Home any bill which was unpaid by her Majesty, he would
undertake to see it paid to-morrow. (Hear,).
Lord N SUES T thought that an apology was dime, if not
to the worthy Alderman, at least to the House, whose form
he had so grossly transgressed. (Cheers.)
Mi. 11. SUMNER stated, that if the worthy Alderman
had tnade a declaration regarding what had fallen within his
own knowledge, be slionld have given implicit credence to
him. But it appeared that the steward had merely shown
the hooks to him and the books only contained an account
of what was paid. The worthy Alderman, therefore, could
nut know how much remained unpuid
After a few observations from Mr. W. Smith, Mr. Hume,
and Sir G. Hill,
Mr. WWI-WEN, put Mr. Sumuer's amendment to the
vote, which 111,6 negatived a itliont a division. The in igi.
nal 1110111111 was agreed to aim imnousty.
The House then resumed, and the report was ordered to be
presented to-iuutiow. Adjourned at a quarter before two
o'clock.

THURSDAY, FEB. 1.
Petitions were presented for the restoration of the
Queen's name to the Liturgy from Edinburgh—Daßeda',
in Ayrshire—Borough of Northampton—Sliepton Mallet
—Amicable Lodge of Monmouth—Freeholders, Gentry,
6ce. of Yereaher, Yorkshire—Burgh of Whitettoru—
Selkirk—Gainshorough in l'oslibite, and St. tieorge's
Hanover Sy:tare.
Lord J. RUSSELL brought in the Grampound Disfran-
chisement Bill, and to enable Leeds to Algid two Mem•
bets in lieu thereof. Read a first time, and ordered to
be read a seetiod time uu Monday neat.
Mr. CALVERT moved fur various Returns oespeetine
the Pees, Stizitres Ike. of the Court of Reque,tr, South.
wank. He had formerly moved for some account, coil-
lieeied with tills Subject, and they had been rethitied to
the House: that they were so extreusely item reel, that
be should consider the defects the 'emit of did
he not knew the respuutalislity of the parties.—.Mutiuss
aicreed to, He aka mused for a velum of the proJnee
of the Hill. Molt
Mr. I iON 1. s' )1) presented a Petition front Rion"
ley, ken!, that !lig for leave to Itlinh 111 a hill to este.ose
I:et:mitt land., tilt ie. Referred to a Culthwl:ce.

_? .. '.

-;211r.

•••

-.1

35

Mr. WROTTESLY gave notice, that on the lath of
February be should move for leave to brims in a bid to
amend the Bankrupt Laws.
Mr. P. GRENFELL moved for accounts of the Im-
ports and Exports of Copper.—Ordered.
THII PUBLIC Dears.—Mr. J. P. GRANT moved for
accounts of the National Debt of England and Ireland ;
of the Austrian Loan ; of the enfiladed Debt, e.c.
A Member (under the opposition gallery) spoke of the
defective, and lie almost might say fraudulent use of the
faad set apart to relieve our successora from the effects
of some of our own miserable policy. He also thought
that England ought to call in her debts. especially from
Austria y and lie thought the demand of sects debt might
check the despotic Mooarch on the liberal efforts of
Naples.—[Hear, bear.] At all events, he ought to be
required to pay his just debts before lie contemplated the
making of unjust wars.—[(:beers.]
Mr. J. SMITH moved for the account of debts due
front Austria; of the expenses that had resulted to Great
Britain in consequence of the non-payment by Aus-
tria, dec.

CUMD AAAAA D PETTFIOII.—Mr. BEAUMONT ,we.
aented a Petition, most annieronsly signed, from the
County of Cumberland. He complained of the coasti-
toted authorities baring declined to convene a meeting,
though most respectfully and regularly required. The
Petition condemned the proceedings against the Queen,
and prayed for inquiry and restitution of her rights. He
entirely concurred in the sentiments and prayer of she
Petition ; but be would not detain the House by dwelling
on those opinions, observing how little attention was paid
by the House to these Petitions, He hoped, however.
that the House would yet see the propriety f adopting
measures more in unison with the feelings of the country
than any of those adopted lately.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY bore testimony to the respectability
of the petitioners, and maintained that the QUeOll.
bee, tried end acquitted, ought to have the benefit of the
acquittal. lier Majesty ought to he restored to the fall
exercise of the right of Queen Consort. (Cheers.) He main.
tained that there was no prospect of justice being rendered
to the Queen and people, but by the removal of his Majesty's
ministers—an opinion in which the honourable member for
Yorkshire (Mr. S. Wortley) might not agree. (Cheers mid
a laugh.)
Mr. BENNETT said he had viewed • ith indignation the
conduct of the individual who had presumed to (lecture call-
ing the meeting-Not individual of as little consequence and
as little known as if he had lived in some alley in London.
The requisitionists represented property to the amount of
200,0001. a year; and yet so obscure a plenum had presumed
to express and act upon Isis single opinion agaiust so many
individuals, and so much property. Rut nut content with
melt resistance, the " Hole and Corner" gentry got up •
mock and sham loyal address unworthy of respect. Petition
read. and ordered to be printed.
How: Am.' Ait ce.—Sir R. WILSON moved fur a copy
of the circular of the British Government to the Ministers
of the Sovereigns constituting the Holy Alliance, touching
their notes on Neapolitan attain, &c.
Lord CASTLEREAGH acquiesced in the motion, which
was then granted.
New R• NIL NOTIL—Sir. P. GREN FELL adverted to
the promise which was made lung ago of as issue of sew
Bank notes—notes of superior workmanship, and such as
would increase the difficulties of forgeries; and be asked
when it might be expected that the new issues would take
place? The subject was of great interest to the country and
the cause of humanity, especially when it was recollected
bow many executions were constantly taking place fur for.
geries.—( Ilene, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied,
that at present he could nut give any decisive answer.—
Some further improvements had been made iu the machinery,
ohich had caused the delay ; but he hoped that at as very
distant period the notes would be ready.
BRZACII OF PRIVILLGIL—Sir J Newport brought for.
ward a case of breach of privilege, which appeared in the
Gazette of January 2, in the shape of an address from the
Presbytery of Langholin, ansoug various other " Loyal"
addresses, which the Gazette announced bad been most gra.
ciously received by his Majesty. This address. in violation
of their privileges, stated that the factious, violent, and un-
constitutional speeches of the opposition members in both
llotnes of Par liament,promoted and encouraged 4 isafee t ion ;
and it afterwards condemned the insolent conduct of opposi-
tion members in the Commons on the last prorogntion. lie
concluded by moving tir "it such language webs breach of the
privileges of the House.
Lord CASTLEREAGH explained the practice at Lord
Sidinouth's with regard to those addresses, and stated that
the address in question bad not been intentionally inserted
in the Gazette. it was Will to the Oki: among litany other,.
and thus escaped particular attention. The Ministers do•
approved of it, and disavowed it; and as it doubtless was
the only object of the motion to procure such disavowal. lie
hoped the motion wunid not he pi essed.
Mr. SCARLET( said, that the opinion of the House
ought to appear on their Jourinils and for that ;impose hit
suggested that a resolution • Imola Journals,
adopted declaratory of
such opinion.
Lord CASTLEREAGH proposed that the debate should
he adjourned. that in the mean tone a minion might he VI
(ruined as to meet t be views that appeared to be entertained
by the House.

The debate oat necordingly adjourned till tn-morrow•.
STATE Or rug REVENUE —Mr. M A HER LY moved for
tt aeries of accounts, illustrative of the state of the revenue,
and of the finances of the country, niter some remark. nu
the moms's% difficulties of the monied commas of the Go-
vermrm•nt of this country.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he had
no objection to the production Dint-counts. He considered
that the revenue of the country had much improved, and
rot ll i 111 l :till further impiiivement. It sins gratifying tor
him to be able to slate, th.st the revenue of the c.•uatry
would meet the ile111:1111U of it, without any further aids or
loans—M(l4rd he Ihnught lie might outs for some years hid
adieu to loans or Iwo tuxes.— (*same cheers on the no'
leflat side.
Act aunts ordered.

Tun Ut the report of the committee of
supply being In might op,
Mr. H . St:NINE:it rose to mew the proposition Of whirl.
lie had gir, rt notice the ill ccetlitt4 night—that liar surds
" Fatty Tlimisaud Pounds.' he left not, and " Thirty
Thousand Petunia" aultatit med. 'file bolt. and lesion
gentleman (Mr. Brougham) 11411 aceo.ed I ist utterly
dt•tegarding all list• principles of British jorisprotleisru,
and had stated that he (Mt. I.) had no right to pi ....... tais.e
Any opiuioa upott.the reault at tsar Majesty's. total, uolvis
( Per unuiatosiirrr see ipso. 38.)

a -•-•

.. _ t- . --

-

..•

,ee

~'r^-'°'

CIRCULAR DESPATCH
ro HIS iiAJEATE'S 111%.510.V.v Al' lORRION munrs,
(Laid before the two Houses of Parliament in pursuance of an
Address to his Majesty. Feb. 1•21.)
Foreign Olfee, Jan. 19, lett.
111•.—I should not have felt it necessary to have made any
communication to you, in the present state of the discussions
begun at Troppau, and transferred to Laybach, had it not been
for a circular communication which has been addressed by fhe
Courts of Austria, Prussia, suet Russia, to their several NI issions,
and which his Majesty's Government conceive, if not adverted
to, might (however unintentionally) convey, up the subject
therein alluded to, very erroneous impressions of the past, as
well as of the present, sentiments of the British Government.
It has become, therefore, necessary to inform you that the King
has felt himself obliged to decline becoming a party to the mea-
sures in question.
These measures embrace two distinct objects :
la, The establishment of certain general principles for the
regulation of the future political conduct of the Allies in the
eased therein described.
filly, The proposed mode of dealing, under these principles,
with the existing affairs of Naples.
The system of measures proposed under the former head, if
to be reciprocally acted upon, would be in direct repugnance to
the fundamental laws of this country. But even if this decisive
objection dial not exist, the British Government would nevertheless
regard the principles on which these measures rest, to be such us
could not be safely admitted as a system of international law.—
They arc of opinion that their adoption would inevitably sanction
and, in the hands of less beneficent monarchs, might hereafter
lead to a much more frequent and extensive interference in the
internal transactions of States, than they are peruaded is intended
by the stigma parties from whom they proceed, or can be neon-
aled either with the general interest, or with the efficient autho-
rity and dignity of independent Sovereigns. Trey do nut regard
the alliance as entitled, under existing treaties, to assunie, in
their character as allies, any such general powers, nor do they
conceive that such extraordinary power could be assumed, in
virtue of any fresh diplomatic transactions among the Allied
Courts, without their either attributing to themselves a supremacy
Incompatible with the rights of other states, or, if to be acquired
through this special accession of such States, without introducing
• federative system in Europe, not only unwieldy and ineffectual
to its object, but leading to many most serious inconveniences.
With respect to the particular case of Naples, the British
Government, at the %cry earliest moment, did not hesitate to
express their strong disapprobation of thc male and c4cumstances
under which that revolution was understood to have been effected
.—but they, at the same time, expressly declared to the several
Allied Courts that tNey should not consider themselves as either
called upon, or justified to advise an interference on the part of
this country; they fully admitted, however, that European States
and especially Austria and the Italian Powers, might feel
themselves differently circumstanced; and they professed that it
was not their purpose to prejudge the question, as it might affect
than, or to interfere with the course which such States might
think fit to adopt, wilt a view to their own security, provided
only that they were ready to give every reasonable assurance that
their views were not directed to purse: of eggranditement,
subversive of the territorial system of Europe, as eetablished by
the late treaties..
. . . .

Upon these principles the conduct of his Majesty's Government
with regard to the Neapolitan question has been, from the that
moment, uniformly regulated; and copies of the successive
instruction sent to the Briush Geveinnient at Naples for their
guidance have been, from time to time, transmitted for the
information of the Allied Governments.
With regard to the expectation which is expressed in the
circular above alluded to, of the assent of the Courts of London
and Paris to the more general measures proposed for their
adoption, founded, as it IS alleged, upon existing treaties; in
justification of its own consistency and good faith, the British
Government. in withholding such assent, must protest against
any such interpretation being put upon the treaties in question,
as is therein assumed.
They have never understood these treaties to impose any such
obligations; and they base, on various occasions, both in Parlia-
ment and in their intercourse with the Allied Governments,
distinctly maintained the negative of such a proposition. That
they have ailed with all possible explicitness upon this subject,
would at once appear from reference to the deliberations at Paris,
in 1813; previous to the conclusion of the Treaty of Alliance-,
at Aix la Chapelle, in 1818, and subsequently in certain discus-
sions which took place in the course of the last year.
After having removed the misconception to which the passage
of the circular in question, if passed over in silence, might give
countenance. and having stated, in general terms, without,
however, entering into the argument, the dissent of his Majesty's
Government from the general principle upon which the circular
in question is founded, it should be clearly understood, that no
Goverunient can be more prepared than the British Government
is to uphold the rights of any State or States to interface where
their own immediate security or essential interests arc seriously
endangered by the internal transactions of any other State. But
as they regard the assumption of such right as only to be justified
by the strongest necessity, and to be limited and regulated
thereby, they cannot admit that this right can receive a general
and indiscriminate application to all revolutionary movements,
without references to their immediate bearing upon some parti-
attar State or States, or be made prospectively the basis of an
alliance. They regard its exercise as an exception to general
principles, of the greatest value and importance, and as one that
only properly grows out of the circumstances of the special case;
but they at the same time consider, that exceptions of this
description never Call,without the utmost danger, be so far reduced
to rule, as to be reduced into the ordinary diplomacy of States,
"or into the institutes of the law of nations.
As it appears that certain of the Ministers of the three
Courts have already communicated this circular dispatch to
the Courts to which they are accredited, I leave it to your discre-
tion to make a corresponding communication on the part of your
Government, regulating your language in conformity to the
principles laid down in the present dispatch. You will take Care
horever, in making such communication, to do justice, in the
name of your Government, to the put ity of intention, which
has no doubt actuated the-e august Courts in the adoption of
the comae of measures which they are pursuing. The difference
of sentiment wine!' prevails between them and the Court of
1 idon on this mater, you may declare, can make no alteration
whatever in the cordiality arid harmony of the alliance on any
other subject, or abate their common zeal in giving the most
complete effect to all their existing engagements.
I am, ox.
(Signed) CASTLEREAGH.