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to, the Hour then toljourfiefi.

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ROUSE OF COMMONS, TUESDAY, Jvcir 25.
AS soon a• the Howse met the nOgaggft was anossnowed
by the Black Rod to attend the Moose of Peers, there to
witness the Royal Assent, which was given by Commission,
to Primal Rill.—efor which see finds
Mr. F. BUXTOs asked the Noble turd opposite (Castle-
reagh), if it was in th► inteatioti of Government to iscrease
the asamber of swot deliveries ?
Lord Carra.ractost said, that that most important ots.

jeel iei tort how Aida sight of. Government were fatly
swamis( She saguatit, a establishing three gaol deliveries is
aid year, sad She measure had only barn delayed (ram
being carried iota effect by the communications ',bidsW
was accessary for the Government to have made with 111111‘.1,
various mouths.. As soon as possible a Bill would—ell
brought in.
A sew writ was evAtTed to be issued, for a bargees to
nerve in the mum of Lord Jocelyn, edled to Hoe ki•ast of
Peers seder she title of Earl Roden.
IRISH CHANCERY BILL.

Mr. C. Gnaw, said, that this Hill had suffered se many
alteratives in the House of Lords, that it was sot worth
while to press it further at prevent. lie would defer the
proweenlisso of it till the House met again.
Mr. LANYARD moved fur accounts of the number of
cases tried within the last ten years in the County Court of
Middlesex, the expenses in costs and fees to the suitor■ and
Use sued, sod the balance of receipts sow remaining iu the
hands of the County Clerk.
A short direaasiost took place as to the time of commene•
inc public business, which was io.ilay unusually early. be-
tween lewd A. Hamilton, Mr. Vansiitari, Lord Castlereagh,
sad Mr. Tierney, front which it appeared that the House
were to meet to•monow, at two o'clock, for the purpose of
adjournment.

LIBEL ON THE QUEEN.
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Mr. WETHERELL roar, pursuant to his notice of
yesterday. to make his motion on this subject. For
some minutes we were prevented from herring him.
The questi which in soolostassce he hail to submit
was, whether • party accused under • Bill of 'sins
and penalties was to be protected by the House
from the evil. of prejudice, us a criminal would be
in case of impending trial before the ordinary tri-
bunals ? lie need not trouble the House with citr-
tinny to prove that in the ordinary criminal juries
prudence, ally publication, tending directly or indi-
rectly to prejudice the case of the accused, or in-
flame the mos& of the public against him or her,
writ considermi as an attempt to frustrate the ends
of importorl justice, and was in fact an offence
against the CotOflloll law.' He had only to remind
them of this fact, and refer them to the hooks of
cases for abundance of pri.of against it. It happen..
rd. however, that there were in the offence to which
he was shout to call the attention of the House, cir-
cumstances of novelty which made him hesitate as
to the proper way of treating it. There was no case
in parlienientary history of a parallel native. He
believed that he should not he contradicted in say-
ing that no case of a judicial investigation carried
on by Parliament had ever occurred, in which the
question 44111 been determined, whether Par-
Nimrod was or was tint bound to protect their
Defendant from the effects of prejudicial libels,
while the case was pending before them. By
a fair analogy however, which could he ere.
Wished from the practice of Criminal Courts, with
respect to those who interfered by publication with
matters sub judice before them, lie thought that it
would be found to be the duty of Parliament to
give those I)efendants that reasonable and neces-
sary protection' which the lowest criminal received
is the inferior Courts. He felt the novelty of the
case, and he submotted his ofNuton atilt some doubts
on his injo.il as to the Most proper mode of treating
the case before them. While he admitted that
there were no precedents nor examples to guide the
House, he naterally felt distrust of his own senti-
ments. Ile had given the subject as much coos-
',toleration as the time (since yesterday) allowed,
and his conviction was, that the publications was
certoinly a breach of the privileges of that House.
The ground that he went upon was, that an
inquiry was pending in that House respecting
the conduct of her Majesty the Queen.—[Here
the llonourable and Learned Gentleman went
into a statement of the proceedings which had
already taken place from the time of brinvog
down the greets begs till the Report of the Com-
mittee appointed to search the Journals of'. the
Lords, by which the House were informed of the
Introduction of the Bill of Pains and Penalties
into the House of Peers.] The Report of the Se-
cret Committee of the House of Lords had been
laid on the table of that House. The document
was now, consequently, COIIIIIIOII to both Houses, as
it regarded the purposes of inquiry, because it
spewed that an inquiry was pending. He read the
passage from the Lords' Report, which alleged the
necessity of solemn inquiry, no less for the sake of
the Queen than that of the King arid the Royal
Faintly. Thus it appeared to him that the
House were so far in possession of the proceeed.
ing es the possession of that document went ;
it pledged the House to nothing as it re.
spetted the Bill of Pains and Penalties ; they
would be at liberty to do as they pleased with
it when it should come before them. There was
before Parliament, as an existing and compact body.
a proceeding its ease at least, and the proof of tt
lay in the document to which lie had alluded.—
He saw a Right Hon. Gentleman (.Ir. Tierney)
shake his head, as if in objection to the argument
which lie had adduced, and certaitily the shaking
of the Right Hun. Gentleman's head was enough to
shake the option°, of moat Members of that House;
But all that he had urged was, that the Report or
the Lords was proof that there was a proceeding its
train or progress through the Parliament. If right
in his premises, was it not the duty of the House.
in regard to its own character for justice, to take
charge of such deliuquencies, as, being committed
ninon the dignity of its tribunal, were mounts-
loots, and not cognizable by the common law ?. If
be was tight in lois deduction of proof oleos mann
inquiry, would they, pending that inquiry, suffer
the accused t• be hunted and ruts dowp by pens.
plileut, libels. papers, Ind paragraphs. which would
In common law be considered and punished of gross

and manifest interference with the porpoise of joss-
tics ? But though tile come woo new, the offence sae
a very old one. In Lord Sirafford's case it was
manifest that he had been rim down and condemned
by libel. and dimmer nut of doors, long helot('
impeachmeitt before Parliament. Hetet a d •
they had a fatal precedent of the Hen-e.
ill-fated Nobleman was tint tried witlcri 1'...
liament until he was hunted down %Wood the
House. The same case was tow observable
with respect to the Queen. Guilt mat attri-
buted to her to an isaimeasserable extent ; she
was. in fact, fully cosidenthrd before her trod had
commenced. lie acknowledeeit that the:c.a.as were
not in all respects alike. It sae impossible ft,
him to suppose that the present Hou-e of Coot.
mons would lw influenced by inch toss,' as spiseareat
in the Luminary. But this was out enough ; thei-
sm, the potentiality of the libel to pe.iiiesce mi.-
chief. It was not to ba Asspsatted 'lost ioo sari
bodies as those of Parliament could lie affected by
the ellltlaeolleand licentious trusts,* spee.nieli of ws.te.l
he would presently submit ; it was not necessary
fur him to suppose this. In common law it was
not awesome to prove the Get, that a prejoil
libel had injured either of the parties %loom cast
was pending ; it erns not required to brim! 'hr 4:woo
home to any one jorym w oho might he inflit,itverl.
It was enough to show that the thiamin!), the
speculation, the potentiality of the I.liel, were
quite Pllfficirlit to effect osischiel. And
would that House, calling itself, as it did
some of its order., the standard of purity, the loon.
tato of order t nd justice, would they tiller their
defendants to be oppressed by an injury fro II which
the common law protected its worst and mealiest
criminal ? He would leave the legal merits of the
question to the decision of that abundant know-
ledge of the practice of Parliamesit which
re-
sided among the Mensbers of the House. Ile
called upon theta to give the inns's-into+ eccused its
this case PIICII a dffence as the Coostitisiiiiii it! cell
round criminals. But if it al Id be the deciouss
of the I lois-e that the case to which he called their
attention V/44 lint a breach of their privileges, ic.ti
that there was !properly no case hefilie the Hour,
although there was our pending before the other
branch of the Legislature; or if it .alloold be
thought that his inference from the case of Lind
Strafford was not fairly deduced. he would adopt
the other view of the citsesii ((((( and he wauld ree
quire that it should be treated (us indeed it was) ao
an offence against the common law of Essgland. If
it was a new case, was it not necessary to establtsh
new precedent, and to shelter the accused from this
new-modelled delinquency ? Would it du to say
to the Queen, "You shall not have that security of
defence which the law awards to the lowest erim -
nal ?" lie next quoted the opinions expressed by
Lerd Elletiborough in the cane of the Kitts es
Fisher, In which In. Lordship declared, that to call
a person "a criminal" (part of the language of the
libel), was a gross perversion of justice. 'I hr
writer of that libel had said of the Delesidant, at tar
criminal is likely to meet the legal punishment doe
to his villainy." But what said Mr. Fliodall ? Ile
did not utter any thing like an appeal to justice. or
a reference to legal punishment. Lord Ellen.
borough determined. in that very east, that to pre..
suppose conviction in a trial webs's injurious libel on
the Defendant. But here was a relit)", proputing
the Quern of Eisolaml as 4, fit subject for whip.
ping, and hard labour in Bridestrell. Lord Ellen.
borough densionthated that libel as a publicist:oil
highly criminal, because it described the Plistudiff
as a criminal mod n monster. But here the accuse,:.
though Queen of these realms, was not nientiotied
in reference to any teal. She was branded with
guilt, and sullied with the foulest language white!,
it was !wobble to apply to any human being. He.
heti 'mother opinion to quote, of no less auslioritSi
than the former. Lord Ilardwicke, in • civil suits
had c milted • nom for publishing the proceed.
ings his suit befie•e the cause came to be heart.
And yet in this case it was impossible 1;4 injury to
happen, as there wins no nee's mini, to thlinence.
except the Lord Chaccellio's, comiacted with. the
decision of the case. Another authority 10146 lii.
had to quote was that of a Judge, he less watch.
NI of the Herests of justice Atom the, oilier.
two. Lord Erskine had committed ...an for.
writing an abusive letter to a peal eugagest,
in a so t iis the Court cf Chancery. These were
extreme cases, and lie only invoked them "tat
shrew the great force and extent of the prin..
ciple which he was C11(641,0011114; to maiotans.--,
Another case which he quoted was that of * libel us
Bignold, au excise o herr, who had killed a mass
in the execution of his duty. While he was in
prison waiting for his trial, a statement was pul).
fished of the particulars. The Attorney-General
had filed an information against the' publisher,
awl Mr. Justice Heath had declared that it was
impossible that the charge could be fairly tried
after the publlcation of that label. Such were,
the first fruits of the little industry lie had
been able to apply to the subject. Ile appeal-
ed to the better ktowledge. of Members fur the
protection of the prtvilehas tif that House. Ile
called on them to shield the illiastrious accused fr ta
the shafts of calumny, and afford her that ;macs -
ton a hich the laws were generally found to lavish
upon the mealiest agent of the revenue. If the
birettas should be consider,' as no breach of woo.
lege, he would then move, that the Attorney-Genard
should be instsucted to prosecute the author of the
libel. which he had to subunit to the attention of
the House. He concluded his speech by moving,
that the publisher and privity!. of ?hada/re Wearers'
Luminary should be required to attend at the bar
of the House.
The SPEAKER wished to know under what cha-
racter the paper was to be offered to the attention of
the House, whether as a breach of privi)egi or not ?
Mr. WETHEREI4 said. that. he wool I brat time
that the libel was a breach of privilege.
The SPEAKIIII said. that in that qtr it must be
handed in with the Offensivii words onderscorrd..
Mr. WITHIRIELL said, that the words which he

thielly relied nn for hi+ rase were these: "Siedl a
women, as notoriously devoted to Ilscchits as le
surh a WOITI*II, as, of found on our
pavement, would be committed to Bridearll and
whipped—shall *nth an one 'be brill eft av an exe
ample of suffrriug innocence ?"
The C%rrk having read these hoes—
Mr. Wtrrlltttlst.t, said, that he wished the whole
lihel to be entered as resit ; becairae, though he
had *Orefield the wont passage.. the context would
he necessary to connect the libel with the queen,
and the inquiry Sotto her condect then penitiiig in
Parliament.

The riper was then reset iron[ the beginning of
the article containing the libel. When the Lie&
had read IA far 4.1 the passage first wonted
Mr. TIERNEy stipimarti the[ rs ~,,, 1:11 had /seen
read to connect the article with the Queen and the
proceedings of Parliament.
Mr. WETHERELL then moved—

That as there was an ingniry 'then penalise on•the combed
of the Clarets in Parliament, tinder all the 'siren-installers of
the else, the Paper just now read was • gross breach at the
rif that /loose.
Sir M. Cttett.slPLßY felt that there was a nee's-
I.:1, for active interference with respect to the sub-
-2..ct in question. The licentiousness of the press
bad become so terrible, that, if not checked, they
lynold scarcely hr able to go home to their families
;re neace. Their wives and daughters had no other
means of makiug themselves acquaiii.ed with the
proceeding* than through the newspapers ; he
hoped, therrrore, that the Attorney Geneml would
hr instructed to pelt a mark on aft those who shreds'
continue to offend against decency and morals
this kind. Hr cordially seconded the motio...
Lord CasTLERE•ott entirely concurred with :he
llon. Member who seconded the !Immo, 1111 l {nog
could be snore painful to hononrable mind,
those who were solicitous for politic morale and the
seeurity of our instieutions, than to withess the
izeievons excesses of the press, employed, as it was
r II y , in exciting the vilest, tlw basest, and the
'oust angry passions of the multitude. There could
rot exist two opinions on the publication which
had been just read, sod whatever observations he
'night afterwards feel himself called on to make,
..o one could feel more strongly than him the win.
:ence and abominable wickedness of the libel.
'.'here could be no difference of opinion tee
; it was a ,u3ll flagrant libel. The only
qoestion, however, immediately tit for Or consi-
deration of the House, was as to the propriety
cf dealtug with it according to the mode proposed.
First of all, he dill not admit the necessity of Pasha-
ro'oit feeling any earnestness about the publication,
• pointisig it out for the consideration of the A ttor-
•,-y-Getorral. it did not follow, that, her-nose it
wma mint already under prosecution, that his Right
Il .81. Friend hail not yet noticed it. It had. smoked,
attracted the attention of the Attorney-Generul ;
17ot it could not be brought before the Courts until
the close of the long vacation ; at present it was a
'remit case, and really in the conflict of libels at.
fresent raging, it was impossible for his Right f lull.
Friend to check them all. If. however, Ilia Right
lion. Frit surf hail been unmindful of his duty, that
-"sold he no reason why the offence should go
v,,thout punishment. There were other means tor
•rlirliing it, which the Queen enjoyed in a stiflivient
r.-gree, at least for her own protection; she hml
his (Avers whose 'bower was quite sufficient in such
...seg. Bat the lion. Mover must allow !sum to
sass , that if Parliament were to he called upon to
take the subject up as a breach of privilege, Mere
must be a much more extensive and equal admi.
c'stratiou of jitatice and punishment than that
which were comprised in the motion. He did not
it'ititc the lion. Member could *hew that the !louse
as in any respell with the proceedings. against
t%e (,Laren, as to make it necessary to viti.licate
it'-m.elvrs against encroachment such as that com-
e lamed of. Undoubtedly it was not lit to be
e•assed over in silence. But the Hot,. sod Learned
Member lied lout the House in a painful situation ;
t :cause the effect of the motion would be, if nut
cafti,.l. to convey all intimation out of doors that
rt,tre will a disposition in the House, on every oc-
(Noun.. to refuse what was asked on behalf of the
Queen. Besides. the Hon. Member should have
further, and he would have found labels
equally atrocious on the other side; he would have
found the public authorities, to whose care the
proceedings against the Queen were intrusted,
i.srmeced and traduced, and their witnesses scan-
l'aliced, and even threatened with assassination.—
A more dangerous moral could not be propos
g•tett. than this, which made the characters
at.ei even the lives of witnesses insecure—which had
eouelly inflamed mobs in the country against
them. He solemnly protested against this select
sod partial mode of upholding the privileges of the
/lons'', End administering the justice of the laws.
13e wished that the whole management of this ques-
tion had been left to the Attorney-General and the
BQ.ieen's law officers. But if Partininent must take
up. if there were no other remedy for that odious
disgusting spectacle of vice and licentiousurss
which the public press of the present day per-
e•-riled, and which cool.' not be tolerated in ally co-
so!ized country, it would be necessary, at least, to
deal out retribution impartially. It was 'lnvincible
for any one to read the productions of that press,
MA overlook its shockiug excesses. He would Hot
s...y..that. on some days at least, if the Hnu. Mover
e.ailis the habit of reading the papers, he must have
I with instances of them; he would rather say
was impossible fur him to point out any dsy in
which hr had not read them. Tne Hon. Member
aketild have proceeded Mare diligently and equitably,
than to hive directed the attention of Parliament to
one side of the question without 'laming the other.
lie might have found libels even snore atrocious
swainst.the privileges of Parliament than that which
be referred to the House. He would not say. 11141
iii- lino. Member was wrong in the chain of legal
a;gurnent, and the application of precedents whirl,
lie had gone through. He (Lord Castlereagh)
iseirnowledgeti for his own part that he dill not feel
rslacii influenced by that chain of reasoning; there
needed nut much diligence to detect much worse
than the one quoted. Since the argument
been so called for, lie war obliged reluctantly to
" into a comparison of cases, to thew how deep and
.;-adly was the disease which rankled it, that hoe,
...A degenerate press, which ought to be a source of
1.---1111 and usefulness to the pountry. la the last
twn.ber of [he tramiler (the lion. Member

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would e how recent was this publics nea) were longed more to himself. Ail had ever cnnoillered
these word--
that any attempts to restrain the activity of the
The voice or the British sate's, if pomerly echoed he piddie 'ewe, were objeetinneble. and delcislaseil to
Perham/est, would bus al store oilltel°v't 01' Pull Cootie- peed uce infi mischief. Notwithstanding the
"Ai' 'hat if Royal mast". I'd d'""^"e """ig' "lessis' ca!nulaints and outcry which were generally male
plan. ..f, the prover Courts were an open to him as to allty of_
his subjects, lint that the great business of the node* email mennet its anuses and licentiousness, which its
• great measure he did ant deny. he 'consider..
sot be sisslivnited matter. of sorb a caters. The t• what
• trite Contusion* Hustle nonl.l have Susie ; hot whew red tbat the greatest blessing which could
House fur the main part is composed of wean' Weal • befoug to any country was so unshackled lapse;
saelpfers, grasping placelltroi greedy olveltovever • with aN its excesses, the like.- rlies of the country
aspiring lute-hooters, or the represeetaiives of sues Colitil never Ise sere without it. Saying Ibis, be
LK"l'' in °h."' e"ntaisi" a far ir"1" Pr"P"r- did mewish tu interfere for the preservation of the
emit piehlic criminals than public guardians—what coo
be expected from it bat —jest what we have seen it as t delimpient wheat offences bed brought the llnras 'I
readily perform f" into this dircuasion. He wished that die Law 061
But it the Houle sought to apply a remedy, it cur. of the Crown would do their (testy, and not
ought not to be applied merely to off:owes spina I leave it be done by indirittuds who had no suck
that House. The Lords were as fur an eseential messes for accomplishing it in their power. It had
'tart of themselves. Now let the Ilium listen to a horn said that the Quern might go into the Courts
passage or two out of The Itepublican, of the else of Law if she felt herself aggrieved. But 'level
Mosta, a very recent publication also:— I with bit COOCUrrellett, if his opinion weir to have
We have very little hopes that the Divorce Bill will he any weight, should the Queru ..r England go
rejected iu. such a Parliament as the present, Intense or I into the Courts of Law to seek that protection
konw and kayo area that they are soflictentty profligate ant which it art
wastille fullyddtheill
inor o.r
power yetomeot,o afford to give.
servile to set against the clearest testimony of eritleitee an.l
✓ight. Still thus will matter nothing-4W King sod Portia- lir'
anent muss nape off the di which has an kmg bane lit her, and which yet they thoeight proper to re-
sist's! themselves lwfure they can therms, the (kneel' in the fume He expressed his strung reprehension of
imltlic mind. The more she"ffer,„ the mere oh. wilt be any attempts which had been or might be made
I endeared to .the "li"n• There 614"*" la F'"ls" • to prejudice the characters of witnesses before
%march more suspected and despised, nor • Parliament
trial, or that was likely to have the effect of en-
move notermowly profligate than at present. Was it not
/hat they hoist purse.strines of the mafiosi, they ditligerlole their lives, or subjectingthem to suy
v,..nid he kicked on of an power in afew heart, andfairly sort of inconvenience.* As to publications like those
*view oust of the country. At percent their doom* Is sealed, which the Nuhle Lard bed read to the House, be
and the bershl approaching with it. The Queen might contlensited them as strenuously as any one; but
rasher rejoice than repent at the separation from a faulty 110 else .stneta was not to blame, her Majesty had
odious so the country; it is the only enure prospect of end-
one her .tats in peace koppaNcoo. Whatever boomers of unthasig to do with them ; she had, indeed, re..
ihr prrweut family, the sufferings trf the Quietus will ever solved to read no publications of that dam
enlist.. her to the protection and support of the Beghsh while proceedings were impending against here
people." —This was au attack which, iii the opinion of the
( lime Noble Lord reed other extracts, and. whole country, was libellous and disreeeful. The
st"'"1: the re" nee which 4" scurrilously 1""1".." Huss. and Learned Gentleman then expatiated on
the relit:ion mid «Institut I form of the Govern- the inconveniencies resulting from proceedieg by
meet of the country, that we must of nee-salty
information against publicatious on trivial or doubt-
muit it.)—The Hon. and Learned Member should
fast grounds, and those against the Morning Owe. •
certainly not have noticed this subject with such a
nick, and acme other papers, some veers ago, as
conlisied view of it as he seemed, perhaps from
doubtful that the Juries gave acquittals. There'
the habits of its active professional life, to have
fore he thought it most desirable that the law
taken. If the Hon. and Leorsied Member felt it
accessary to shelter the Queen from the prejudice, officers should undertake prosecutions in those
coots only, munifestly and without any divots
abuse, and insult of libellers, it was no lees so to
calling for them
shield the witnesses—if the Queen and witnesses ! which would remove all dui&were merited.—(Meer, hear.) . they
were to he preserved from such injuries, undoulit-
cubing, and easily secure cousin:bone where
telly so should she Judges of the tribunals before ,
wh the case would be tried. He would not Arroatire-GetreaAL said, that the moth's
of hie Hon. and Learned Friend implied some noise
• *impose the prosecution of the libel ; but if that
cond
ehould be recommended by the House, he should
of tint
ivel it his duty to follow op the example by Crown; but lie thought it a little extract-
delivering the papers which he had joist read, and .litsrry that his Hon. and Learned Friend should
li heave
selected this case iii particular from among
remise% a sweeping instruction to be given to the
the many and gross libels which had appeared its
Attprney-General to prosecute all offences of such
a nature, by whatever writers they should be corn- the public papers for the last three weeks. and.
•
thought it proper to engage the attention of the
twitted. Yet he denied the inference that the case
would not have been noticed by the Guvernment
House before
officers for iustit nun a prosecution
elydrd by declaring that if punish before any opportunpy had been 'diorite&
except for the interferesn-e of the House. He cou-
Ism
tne
egaisist its publisher. if he (Mr. IVetherell)
*jested, justice regnired that it weperpelietod; thought this of so base and flagrant • character,
he was surprised that he should have overlooked
the whole sphere and compass of the offences, and
mist to any particular degrees thereof. the multitude of others which had appeared
within the last three or four weeks, mid which not
Dr. LeststeoToe in expressing his dissent from only reflected on the proceeding"' peodin; iu the
the necessity of calling for prosecution or punishing other House of Parliament. but moan grossly
• what might be considered a breach of privilege, litielled this. It belonged to the Moose to de..
wished to state the reasons which weighed on his termitic whether they should dirittlhe law officers
mind, why it had not been felt incumbent by him of the Crown to prosecute the. proprietor er the
or the. Queen's law officers to come before the paper in question; but he entreated the House to
House with any complaint against the offence in consider iu what situation he himself stood. Ills
question. The paper bed been branded to him Hon. and Learned Friend must have been aware
some days si:ice. He had consulted her Majesty's that no Information could be commenced, mid no
officers upon, and flinch indignation was excited by trial had before the following Term in November.
its flagitious contents, They reflected, however, Therefore he thought that though sin legal step
that it was the productionof • vile, obscure, unprin- had yet been taken in these cases. he might have
cipled country jouroalist, whose work, most likely, given him (the Attorney-General) credit fur in-
had little circulation, end that it would be &tug tending that they should slot escape without notice
very little indeed to-fall upon such • being, except or with impunity ; for. undoubtedly, his attention
they corld first of all check the more ponderous had been seriously directed to these librls which
mischief of the libellers in the London press. New had itsusittsted the press since the outset of the pro-
when he had witnessed the treatment which the ceedisigs against her Majesty. Justice would, lie
complaint made by the Noble Representative for feared, come too tardily, necurding to the reeuler
Aylesbury agamist The Morning Post, for one of course. but, at the same time, that was no reason
the most malignant and venomous libel* agaiteit why it should not eventually fall on the guilty—
the Queen (a librl in which it had been declared for undoubtedly he felt it his duty to institute pro-
iseceorety to sacrifice her, and whether " ass martyr secutiona against some of the publications which
or a criminal" the unprincipled writer professed not had fuel his eye. With respect to the reuse, ks of
to care)—when he had witnessed the treatment the Hun. and Learned Gentleman who had spoken
which that complaint had receivedos well es another last, be perfectly agreed with him, that it was
against The Courier for a libel not less fl-pgitious— wrong to an Attorney-General to undertake a pro-
em! when he remarked, moreover, the utter neglect secutiois in any case where he had not a persuasion
with which those scandalous outrages had been in his own breast that a conviction would follow ;
eased over, violent and atrocious as they were, and and for the sincerity of this opinion, and the strict.
calculated to Whiffle the minds' of the public evils with which it hid beet' acted on by himself, lie
against her Mujesiy—proceeding, too, from a print could spike'sl to his own conduct since he had been
immediately ler the eye of Government, known appointed to the (Ace which he had the honour to
to be in a cosisidetable degree under the influence hold, for, from r refence to it, it would he seen
of Governmeot, mid supposed to be nutter the that every information which he had exhibited hail
affecti )))) of Government—when he saw these hinds, been attended with a conviction—; Hear, hear)--
so full of the trust foul and venettious caluntilYs and he believed, in his conscience, such was the
passed over without any attrition from the Cavern- state of the press, that had he instituted more, there
went, he thought it of little consequence what such *mild have hren more convictions. That was the
an obscure and wretched creature as the writer or rule by which lie had been guided, end by which lie
the Western Luminary published, whose works. should he guided as lung as lie continued in office.
111" t Pr"hvhiY. Perished in the same ignominious The lion. Ned Leaner(' emetletuast (Dr. Lushing-
°tummy which surrounded their birth.—( Igo.) limit 0100.1114 to confilie himself to the question
The offence had IMen slated to be a breach of pri- licit:pre the I louse, did what be find dace before,
Ogee, because it affected an inquiry prattling in that and eccused his Majesty's Ministers of prejodging
House.. Had he felt it to be so, end had the offence the Quern's case, bud. treatitig
.her ass guilty &-
beets confined to the papers which he hail mewl )))) rtl, graded weave,, lie deprecated swell a bee of cosi-
notwithstandieg his reluctance to interfere with the duct, calculates! es it was to excite a prejudice rah
press in any degree (the reasons for which rebid- the country, bud in truth to petjud,...e the e„,
.ace he would by and by stale), be should have against those who lied been forced to Ole very pain.
felt it to be his duty to hare interfered and prose- fill course at length adopted in reference to her
cute the offenders, But le;,w stood the case ? Mojesly. As to the question of the Li!itrgy, he
Were thole the only parties whirr had injured the was unwilling to revive the discussiou nil it ; but
• Queen by prejudging her cause. and a:l66pm- he must say, that he hod never clitertained any
ing her &vermeils' ? Mudd siie go to lona with I doubt on it. He was perfectly satisfied that the
uo ether su•picions unjustly placed epos' her 1111 l ission of the Queen's name was in point of law
than those which suds agents were able to im- i justified—(.• Beer, hear riven: Lord Castlereagh)
poor ? No ; she had been first of all prejudiced —and what situation would his Majesty's Moiste'
iu her case by Government—Ministers had already i have been i„ had they inserted it ? Now, a most
treated her Majesty as a condemned and not as all serious charge had been preferred against that illus-
secured person. Her mime had been left out ref trines personage. Would it, lie asked, have been
the Liturgy, and every thing hail beets done which f right in these individuals, when believing those
could degrade her, and • take away from her the j chergea, which it must be supposed they did, to in-
c.infidence of general opinion. Whsle these injuries pert the Quart's name in the Common Prayer ?
were con/inure it would be, indeed, little worth while The plain inference from it would he, that they slid
for hrr legal advisers to stoop to the consideration or i !sot believe die charges, and that its taking such a
the dirty and mean offences of The Post, he step they pronotaliced her !Majesty's acquittal.—
Caririgi, and the Western Luraiserry. Such were I (Hear, hear.)—After it, could they with any con-
sume T the reason. which had infloraced Isis 034- sistency have *dewed a prosecution, or come clown
iiiikusland which he had carefully submitted to the with the Message which they had brought from the
gime,' when he took her Majesty's pleasure upon I Crown? It would at once be resorted on them—
the subject. There were other reasons which be- " You cauuot institute any pruceediug on Clot

aerie,. which had been tarnished yon at the time
you inserted her Majeeteo name in the Liturgy."
As ulte adencate of her Majesiy, it was right of the
Ma. ansi Leonia-el tleilllrionri so make the best of
her can.; lint tot to Nlember of Parliament he cotild
not approve of observations tooth as br 114 d heard
from him. lir thought that while the inveatiga-
ens ',endow, the less list was said by any
Nlentlarr of the loci of Miitioterr, or the i -
(voice or guilt of the Queen, the better, because
ouch nbatinence would hest contribute to keep their
mind. open for the comoderation of the great qllts
11011. whirls they should he required, as probably
they would, los pay' a token') in . Sweeping
cult • al of this deocriptino might most cautiously
to he guarded t, inst. Attempts, lie ollowed, had
been mode to pr, judge the case against the Queen,
but in point both of number sod industry', they
bore no comparraon to those which load been made
on thr other side—to noose which, under the mask,
the hypocritical mask of minims-nog her Majesty's
case, in reality were intended fur what their authors
had been long desirous of, to effect ',revolution. He
hid no heattation in culling this a most disgraceful
libel ; but as lie had seen examples of every thing
which could operate in the strongest manner by way
of intiiniolation—(Near/ —agniust those who were
to sit in judginelot on the case, or to give testimony
soloist her Majesty, he was surprised that they
should have escaped the attention of Isis Ho,. and
Learned Friend—that he hail not eerit, day after
day, and hour after, hour, efforts made by the writs
to prejudge the ease, not as against her Majesty,
but as against those who had instituted the proceed-
ings against her, who were to decide WI the case,
or to appear as witnesses. Their was nothing
which could occupy the attention of a person stand-
nog in his situation more than the stook of the press.
lie was sorry to say that at the present moment the
arm of the law, mooch as it had been strengthened,
11'.15 not powerful enough to repress its licesittoustiesa
it exceeded, he belityrd, that of any other period
in history. It was matter of regret that he should
be the Individual on whom had fallen the duty to
endeavour to restrain it. blot lie honed it would
not be supposed that because ate Attorney-General
had not progrcuted a paper which had published
an obnoxious article only the week before last,
that therefore it was intended never to be done. If
every paragraph of the kind were to be pro.
secured, lie believed in his conscience that the
whole tirue of the Attorney-General would be
occupied therewith. But it was not to be imagin-
ed, that because these offences were numerous,
on prosecution, therefore, awaited them.—(Near,
/rear.)—Looking over these papers, many of which
lie had not seen before entering the house, he
should only put in his claim fora candid coostroic-
lion of his conduct ; and that it would not be in-
ferred that, because The Ifepuldican, or The /remi-
tter, or Mr. Flindall had not yet been prosecuted,
the Attorney General was in consequence remiss in
the discharge of his duty. After s further ob.
bervatimos the lion. and Learned Gentleman. COD..
eluded by upologisiug for the lunette had occupied.
( Cheer s.)
M. THIRNEY said, lie should confine himself
strictly to the question before the house. The
first ground laid by the hon. and Learned Geo-
flea'su to induce the House to adopt the motion
was, that the poblicetion complained of was a
breach of the privileges of that House; but the
•rgualent by which that proposition had been
endeavoured to be established was too nice and
relined to justify the adoption of any proceed-
toga on the deduction from it. It all rested
on this, that the house knew the Lords had coin-
meeced proceedings monist the Queen, by means
of a Report on the table from the other louse—
that therefore the proceednig was a parlianientery
one—and that consequently tnepublizetion tending
to prejudice the case ail her Majesty pending the
Investigation, was a common breach of privilege.
Thu reasoiring, howeser, toss too subtle to bring
coliviction to Hear, hear.)—Thry
had riot hero mask acquainted with the pro-
crediugs its the other lionise in that solemn man-
ner which would justife theta in considering
them a, common to both (louses. The Lords had
chosen to suffer a Bill of Pains and Penalties to be
brought into their hoopoe; but it might never come
here, fur they might reject it; Lid it was au error
of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to suppose
that it must be brought before this house. If he
urn: speaking as a Peer lie should approve of the
mutton, but as a Member inf.the house of Commons
he could not. %Vitt' respect to the other view
taken of the question by the host. and Learned
Gentleman, and the course which lie recommended
Ilicretipini, a &recto'', by the house to the Attor-
ney-General to prosecute the printer of the paper_
it was a course against which objections existed us
all coots. It engaged the house of Commons in
a moist invidious and notion* office. and sent the
accused to trial with all the weight of prejudice
derived horn their opinion operating against him.
lint if it was right to be done by either House in
tow present instance, it vms to the Lords it pretrly
belonged. The Lords bad riot thought proper, and
rightly, to communicate the origteattoo of the Bill
of Penis and Penalties, they deferred that till it
should papa, if ever, into a law ; that then, while the
Lords let:noised paelive, the House of Com-
mon, should be called oil to take Holier of the libel.
was a very strange propo-trios,. The Right Hun.
Gentleman then (we moderstood) suggested the
propriety of withdrawing the motion.
Loup A. HAMILTON said, that what lie princi-
pally tope fur was to COOtt'lld that whatever Itiotise If
or lila friends had witil against his Majesty's Mi-
nisters MI noeir treatment id the Qoeen, had not
been said, los was iindouatrd by the honour-
able mid Leas tied Gentleman (the Alturstey-(:e-
-octal), with a slew to inflame the tnitids of
people in or out of doors. All that they had
done was to recapitulate the particulars of their
conduct towards her Majesty, and 11. the conse-
quence of that was to inflame Ilse public mind, so
much the worse fur them ( \holsters). He bad un-
&wood the Ilon. awl Learned Gentleman to say,
dud it hi, Majesty's Molokai haul advised the con-
tinuance of her Majesty's uustte in the Liturgy,
they could nut with any consistency hate attempted
iifirreuirds to give effect to the charges against her.
Now lie (Lord A. Hamilton) said. that was an er-
roneous tuference, and the position false, that per-
sons could not consistently bring a charge alpinist
Minas wisoin they hail first treated as innocent.
But, lie 'NI:A, was nut the eller of 50,001)1. to her

Majesty In rental's nn the Continent its inconsistent
with the belief of lorr crintntaltty. as any insertion
of her name ito the Liturgy But he must take the
Inborn to say. that the lion. moil boomed Gristle.
matt (the An y-Generool) had not been accurate
in Ins statements nu tins howl, for low II ght it also
i.eared from the papers load before the (louse, that
the omission of her mane had not taken place its
consequence of any pioreedittga originated imam
her. But If tory hod t►eated lire Majesty ratio ill.
dignity, airy could not but expect that some of
the lowest and most mongoloid or the psi" would
take their example. With regasol t.s the libel
he thought if our. of those whirla were sn grilse to
their torture, a. to be by no Inesll. calculrtrd is
injure her Mojesty, but to be detrimental to the
author

Mr. MAIM/LEL reprobated the libels which had
been brought under the notice of the float; and
hoped they would be subjected to the soimadver.
Non of the lows.

Mr. ‘VETIIIERELL rose to reply. Ile had felt
very great satisfaction in beariog from the Noble.
Lord and the Attorney-Getters) that the libel was
one winch called for the attention of the Governs
meta. That bring the case, he considered that
his object had been attained. The Noble Lord had
commented on his conduct, tint, he thought, with
Ins usual ui baldly. Ile had said that he had not
proceeded diligently and equitably, in not mincing
previous lilwla„ and then read a list of others frotu
the liepubfican and krantiner ; but the Attorney-
General stood up a few tes after, and confessed
that Ise had not known of the existence of these libels
till he heard them read by the Noble Lipid. 11.
could nut agree with the logic of the Noble Lord.
that It Member was partial for bringing under the
cognizance of the /louse Otte must gross libel which
had come to his knowledge, because there wen
others published, alien the Attorney-General
admitted that he had tint read the latter. The
Noble Lord wished to impose op office on hint
from which lie should recoil. flaring received the
unanimous declaration of all who had spokeu ott
the motion, that the subject deserved consideration
and inquiry, with the is 00000 nation of the Noble Lord
stud the Attorney-General that it should be prow-
rtted, he will perfectly rosy, and the House miglit
distiose of the motion as they thought proper.
The SPBAKER was about to put the question,
but the motion was afterwards withdrawn.

ADJOURNMENT.
Lnrd CASTLEREAGH I)o44,eforit his police re.,
sneuting the adjournment of the Hume till the
.2lst August, till to-morrow,_

CARTS, Jae.
Mr. C. CALVERT gate not;rr•, that he should
move in ithe Holt Session of Parliament for the
repeal of certain Act, of the blue and preceding
reign, so frr as they required the owner's moat 10
be put on the outside of carts, car•. &c.