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th°
~have, been avoidel h forethonght, anid t.heati,l,esqlee,,°4l„ been d,i,e to eirable them to a,e v i'L
`every-
thing-.4;3 ' lam afraid, my lords it is a truismh.etvheasteeeveeerays.-
4itulas not been done to enable, them a
ketveM been the answer to th.es.e.amlleegtoeafti
monystn?
o e .
ttPon tee°ll attempted to the critic's blHaferiaelinyd
tole the War system ? Has any single Minister fentureit
diti / thot the expedition to the Crimea was not an expe-
metillrld,ertaken in ignorance, without prep uation, and
knowiem; Period of the year --(
to encounter,e
itooveute of the difficulties goingyoufwereeu
h e a r ) u n dfeeenrwte amkye n
observationswih o u t
4%14
of ge of tha resources o
East
,preparation you should myakear? and th
Iscrom tl,*-ttIiasTVILLE here addressed
rceriaTeeettaiiaallaileery, but in so low a tone that they did not
expedition to the
of DERBY proceeded—The
Th:le a was not the result of ability,wisdom,or foresight.
noble as
(Newcastle) opposite a few days since ac-
tom bened that at the time of the Crimean expcditLioLn_ tt) ' -ad no id f • ; they relied upon taking 1".
Wti b_ .ea o a siege PasR flap as it Were by surprise, but the idea of having to
SebEtfit,-.41°11 winter without huts and warm cloktehianagmbiettoerde
veer er was an idea that the noble u
l'ereinfil'ed his mind or the mind of herdM.anjeesattye'sffiGeeo;
Of etlainne'; The same thing was said by an eminent
Ne rs, whe also thought the place might be taken in
toileh reanner, but who, from the first day's firing, came
4eillte eeeriction that the work would be one.omfegr. eat dif-
Well,
thet,Y,faud also that it would be a work of time. art of froth also
of foresight and miscalcnlationonthe
ttlter t dips"°,`-rvernment and not from other circumstances,.
iehtis,_aave been exposed to hardships against. which
eeir ~,A
•. have been protected. (Hear hear.) Theyhad
leintteo,7ring3 increased by ignorance; 'and upon the Go-
what was it
°lrina t,,' roust rest the responsibility.
ff ring and over
eraaaCi'_ai.tlie troops were worn out by Veat that ? WhY, because the amounteuh ofe work was so
dealle, a t!I could not be spared from.t
tehterenwcehreesw;itbhe.-
-tawn ticaceroing to Sir John Burgoyne, lf y-
-4141414, ~4eraY Vvould advance to the possession of them,
(Flesr, hear"( 3 Work would be doubled in retakiyneguthteamke.
to Ao„.)
But the noble earl says, "
4letter.,s‘tee of the telecTaph, or the railwtaivoke,, ocrriomtehaeur
..el,Peditine,,ffted by thaE aid of science in
was
"'"(ed, •-"' . (Hear hear.) Sir
John
Burgoyne
have
lieet efltie hie examination, if the railway would,,, yes ; it
thou then 1/1 October last. His answer was,b
b.'"llght e,tl have been of infinite advantage, ut was not
”tit° - o'''' Bat h th noble earl takes creditfor
tot
taetcf scientific rid modern invention, he surely oughttruction
iias a railway amongst them, for the co
Ptese wa3r Was as well understood in October lausetaslitamis
t:t k 1 ,4,t. ; and 1911 itwas not thought of till April
~1(4,1",° untie why
I do not find there have been
• of the
'eBolnti"Jeetions raised to the substantive
our trot The facts of theportions
amongst
to oils 'Pe 'Ave not been° denied,sufferingand that they wereo i.
and privation
wlo.
(14°11444'0rue t
be attPatt,,e,rl . (flew.) But
in the7lpteci
t(!, expressed his sturprise that censureshoulhd
employing the right men
dowti _414005. be east for no
the ttwith a 1,,, -,- expected the noble lord woul have con:'n
for th Placoi "n of personal cases—all fit men employed "
that e Nil' ' and Only
48. lc servic Bt he did not show yo
if
employed because of their fitness
to, inchig fit ll
ti I can only say.. ,
het th man was engaged ;
.an
isia i 4 At ,:te Were, they did their businesst in anythinc,
Le sariat.e4Viner. In the transport depar ment, the com-
It 'lettaiiti ' rcedictal departments, there had
ebveeeryn
tuhtitnegr
, 4 trktti ,On If ;and what wasstill
ttti.gtao exiliteelallttlizith the rules and regulations of routineto
bit really , tno man could.undertake to do that whichnow
tio,ehpto ca 4, no for the public service.r.
M So-and-eo, antd.
zoett c get 455_ tile
_p.erformace ef lam not
It'll 4 W°oWhieh riSit,it tifser. doing so Ido not; mean
ef
duty;n butthere is one depart()
411Pait 'edrvo! the noble duke (Newcastle)ieozosrelt
f m all I
ke,t(iheal,,s% On the contrary, el
eqil,.' there hear 1,
that of the members lofbthe late Govern-
of hie ud
wi,Tas none who devoted himself more energe. i
1311 t °ke tV stlell unremitting applica(Ctiroineeteof t,,ll,eHteluartil
theiekt the
as (!id the noble duke. Of the made ,Die finis I must be permitted to regret the
101 l War fly the noble duke in accepting the conduct
P°I)o Ithe wA. ePartment. Ido not concur with; thtehneolabtlee
resentment, so- instrumental in overthrow,ng
bohieci ote ,
Lana who has done so little to s
practical
141 Le (Ink, , 4410—that it was com.mendauahle in the
pport the
itewiedg (4) accept an office which required .
4 ,the zZ "f Inilitary affairs Hear.) And site of
ti,',e"(l 8,,-;.` and energy f the noble duke, I do not believe
to eon-
ttilie ei`cbocle,lit militaryo knowledge to enable him.
Itemile effeetivl_Upiate discharge his dep?xtment, and to .KBeeap
ttel
ask'duk °ln the of their public duty. t
ti ea. I
,as n civilian, was to undertak . military con-
thQ °f ofne:eY„°9 Whether it was not necessary vredrattielis.leirnedaely under him, am, b apes eon'
lconnected
the
wrilthh-
dt,l,4tit itiat!o.ll of war, should be filled
isc the ,tall!tary affairs ? (Hear, hear.)l arn,not now
t;tf0,.311i,,,
_ltlol3 of the Ordnance-office.
oote ,v 4 ,v,hether or not the original coesetiotuwtiohniehof the
e
the l''' reiy4tlltY• But it is the
the '',11.‘,,,,f91" supplies of war munitions,ewhoio ciatniedstiuopn7,ef
n
k4„/tvai bei''cg of which depends the Well, th
14 3,Br.ge,,ng Batisfactorily conductedor
Lord Raglan) was
.away
tit,_Lis Crime of the Ordnance (essary
not.
to aplitolouftthae
dtitrthEttiti,a, and it was found
Lit: e 5. The \-Teneral of the Ordnannceeeto_
and, I
1 is vacant,
..erm.
ie lev e office of Surveyor-Genera perform Par
t tea' P to th
kg . dtit,.
...e present time there is no ptehrseonoPrderetance,
of 01s there Then there is the
the House
in Disi c'elin Presentative of the department
ho es-
Minister, w _
Os '45 th
; of the
Clerk of .
tvh, all
‘, mouthp.ece. w _
4%141 has Ch'tere connected
din former time ? B qitbe frietid at °Mee been fill° ith MilitelY sst9r,e_s'y
mßyy
llte); kis 11°W in command
hyttMet,°t,bY General Fee-, GeneraloftbeCaorinx,yanTootrhderHmair.;
Volit p ge last f whom
%vast
of the present war the
Colonel Dunne. I may
4 ril.(3f
Ql4°
the
cowmeneemewnas never held by any brit
,hetitt',',,Y ina:r the Ordnance
r 44 NI" Of4e,) eAt the commencement. of this great %am,
it in Put jat uoold necessarily be. doubly activa, whom
why, you
i'°", 40ers, r° that responsible situation.?
af r,lilic) ha, ,''l4,etable gentleman—an Irishman, I be-
ILIT?let u° hag
t N.Ziltly teen occasion to change
bhids form
o
tern a 'Pistol•-etk -.;,°,. a% far as I know, when he
L'ir°,-Igliii,, ~,v,,;11,) OrdnUnce if he had had
to
been told
to go
-biy could' L'Pera.Cn' b4ve found it very dam
(Rear,) --tu '-'4l.' 1,h111.---(h (hear and laughter)—and who car-
°lid
til4self If t 4 1,-,:i7Pql nothing about military
matters.ue not
thEkt b,
,ahttlilit4ry-r,,`" (hike the Minister for War was ht, for the 11 -vc,x4ll, Win] it not all the more n
tot,
"e firBt time - Wintery assistant and adviser?Atnhde the feat
.of the (2 in the history of this country,eresent
meat n'if.'ster ill the r",.sacs office the erson to
1;11 itileiae,,ar, iti'uoic,n.se of Commons at the commence-
e 0e,1,1 • '

latter topic, for the purpose of showing how far I differ
from an opinion which se3ins to be very extonsivAy enter-
tamed throughout the country. If that word "routine"
is applied reproachfully to the performance of the duties of
• the subordinate department sof the state—duties discharged
I most usefully for the country by gentlemen who labour in
the public service with great assiduity and very inadequate
remuneration, and at the vane time with none of the in-
centives to publicity and popularity to support them—if the
word "routine" is applied reproachfully to the perform-
ance of those duties, I say that it would be just as reasonable
for a manufacturer to complain of the routine of his wheel,
because it always turns precisely in the same direction, and
works precisely in the same manner. Of all these depart-
ments routine is the very essence and soul, and without it
the machine of the state would be thrown into utter con-
fusion in the space of an hour. I will not, however, say
that, under all circumstances, too much attention has not
been sometimes paid to the claims of mere seniority in the
public offices. I do not mean to say that promotion may
not occasionally have been given with too little regard to
the claims of superior merit ; and I am not prepared to
say that the Government would not do well to set aside,
but with a liberal provision, men who, although qualified
for the duties of public departments in ordinary times, are
unfitted by age or infirmity to meet the requirements of a
great emergency, and interfere with the advancement of
younger and abler persons. (Hear, hoar.) It is essentially
necessary that you should have " routine" in the public de-
partments : but then you ought to have over all of them
ruling minds. My noble friend lays down the doctrine
—and it is a doctrine which can hardly be contra-
dicted—that it is important for the public service that
public appointments should be made solely with a view to
the public interest. But I must frankly confess that I
think considerable misconception prevails out of doors
upon the question of the selection of public officers. No
doubt, in a despotic country, a despot or his minister, has
the power of selecting for a public department the men
he may think best qualified for the performance of its du-
ties, without any reference to the necessity of insuring a
co-operation among the various members of his Govern-
ment. But to apply that principle in this country would
be impossible in itself, and would be at variance with the
principles of our constitution ; and the Minister of the day
must choose his associates from within a very narrow com-
pass. The whole of our constitutional system, from first to
last, hangs on mutual confidence. The Crown appoints a
Minister in whom it has confidence, and in whom it be-
lieves that the people have confidence; that Minister must
be supported by a body of colleagues, and those colleagues
must be members of one or other House of Parliament.
There are some officers who must be members of your
your lordships' house, and there are others who must be
members of the House of Commons ; but the choice of the
Minister for associates is limited to the members of the two
houses. It is even far more limited than that ;it is limit-
ed to those members of the two houses who concur with
him in political opinions, and who are willing to co-operate
with him in official life. Now, he cannot include among
those men the members even of own party who are pre-
vented by their devotion to more profitable avocations
from undertaking the engrossing duties of a Minister of the
Crown. And I must say; without meaning the slightest
disrespect to the present constitution of the House of Com-
mons, or without intending to raise the slightest doubt that
on all sides of that house are to be found men perfectly ca-
p able of discharging the duties of Ministers of the Crown—
I must say that since the period of the Reform Bill there
has been an alteration in the character of its composition
which makes it more difficult than it formerly was for a
Minister to select his colleagues from among its members.
Previously to the Reform Bill therewere a very great num-
ber of boroughs under the control of individuals, which
were known as "rotten boroughs," and there can be no
doubt but that those rotten boroughs, whatever may have
been their imperfections, or however irreconcileable they
may have been with the spirit of our constitution, afforded
an ordinary avenue to Parliament for young men not
known to the public, but who were desirous of qualifying
themselves by early training for official life—not as a re-
munerative profession, but as a profession highly attractive
for persons possessed of independent fortune. But that
avenue to the House of Commons, that nursery of young
statesmen, has been in a great degree destroyed by the Re-
form Bill. Look at the character of the men who are now
returned to that house, and more especially of those who
are returned by the great towns. They are men, no doubt,
of ability, but they are men, in general, of mature age.
They are professional men, or merchants—men of great
gi eat sense and capacity in many instances—but men who-
did not devote their attention exclusively to public affairs,
and who had not from their youth been trained to public
business. And I must here ob erve that the instances are
very few in which a man who entered Parliament for the
first time at a mature age raised himself there to any very
distinguished position. I may be told that many of these
smaller boroughs still remain, but I think it will be ad-
mi te I that, among the voters even in those smaller
beroues, there prevails a certain degree of independence
which, although it will not prevent them from supporting
a member of the most influential family in their neighbour.
hood, induces them to resist any attempt to impose upon
them a mere stranger. The result is, that the number of
persons qualified by previous training for the duties of Go-
vernment is smaller at present than it was before the pass-
ing of the Reform Bill. I state this merely for the purpose
of correcting those exaggerated representations of the real
character of an evil of which so many persons are now com-
plaining, and in some respects complaining very justly. I
am still per ectly certain of this, that if there be in either
House of Parliament any man who shows ability and an
alititade for business—who can explain and enforce his
own views—whatever may be his birth or his origin, or
his connexions—there is no Minister, whether Whig, Tory,
or Radical, who will not speedily accept his aid, and
welcome him into the service of the Crown if he should
think fit to undertake the thankless duty which devolves
on a servant of the Crown. (Hear, hear.) But so strong
is the feeling in the country against placing inexperienced
men in high office, that when, a few years ago, I availed
myself of the services of several gentlemen of great ability,
but who had not had any previous official training, I was
told I had only raised a squad of raw recruits." I say
that no minister, be he who he may, can put his finger on
what he may consider the most competent men for public
life, and say to one "you must go here," and to another
" you must go there " He must make his selections from
his political adherents; he must make his selections from
those only among even his own adherents who are in a po-
sition to take office, and who are qualified for the dis-
charge of its duties. I make this statement because lam
desirous of correcting the exaggerated opinions which are
entertained with regard to the duties of a minister, and
the possibility of a minister's carrying out his own wishes.
I say it is the duty of a minister, with regard to
- department in Parliament or out of Parliament, to

h.: 4ci • . -- every
as3,tsa by cace"', it had
filling a position which, even
and who, in his judgment, is
the:nog a...l:!illitetyriact always been held essential shout, c
whose services he caanr:ieehlar,
office. That is the prple.
to thfeke ortlst theillaa• (Hear.) Ido not wish_ to_rsZ
ji sbeelsetctfi,t;eidth;urtdaopnzarnptibaylitycuorrefear or favour, the individual
Of e Ofce ki_hde,
erellttlem.an who was. removedrtmt
ant which is. laid
afraid, without citing instances
d eitherh
estelinos,e.ii?ePaty et? gY in the Colonial. Department
le which I am
has
h House nnot been always followed my noble friend ; and it iseas pwriniceh
ehlsi(lereZl4 of 1t,,1 111„,„ net sae 'tart Mllrotewr Ailing in the would be 11:011 co es abilic Pe
ygenatlemann no doubt of veryd laughter.) But
its ltara 41. rendtki. know nothino• in his antecedents
heienanete arire in Zemin her Maijnevsitdv
rucheive are asked why we bring o this and
now; and it
ernalm7ort,orhby any Govern-
by
that has plsoraepscreedseedn.tthGe Iv.
peculiarly qualified to explain
shall (II ePrese4lonse of Commons, or to act as the
great suffering—there werea 1 t
all that took place under the
kier, Nett ear) je 1 lre of the War Minister in that
is said, "True, there was thfisrlwgraerhatesneegplereivt—attiohnerse
endured
sutrheicsi
by our troops—but recollect
p, ise, oNi eteet these cases because we have been
i pad
e not nt out a • • • h the right late, and
n n nts Nit, i,
.11y instances in which
d friencfithe Minister .
of War undoubtedly.
present
tor, arlia, out °f pinthe right laces I will not go to e-ofnoble friend, the
'-'4 gent • arliarn p • * but, with the exception my
not under the present, Government." litly noble
takts-eted • and t cat--I will confine myself to those
bl rl
p,,i_sdrs efwith the ~,() the case of gentlemen immediately h.) But the no e ea
old partners. (Hear, and a laug
consider what wonderful
tli,"'(l fr the lit Government—and I will show that in"you do not
Government may very truly be styled a new firm with the
IS Niiter4 the 111°°t imPorta y have signally de- opPosit.e says,
e nence of the
%te with es' acil th" a of selecting
,id
°u •ht en for things have been done within thelast three months."
IVI ~e 8 8 Ohld L an a one, as my n?
e est !i h , solely d 1 ble friend meaeures which were taken by the noble duke
are ei `,', of th_ have done, to the exigencies and the. continued—Settle
.th-at among
~it.te.ee() you 7 Public service. (Hear.) But it is said The Earl of DERBY co
n 0 . .
Ma:inter of War.
distinction whatever
111 ist
~..00ltis,
tiliert a
na forward this question now ? You
between the late and the rreeent
w of the matter, he cannot
titthe swli4r, elle fr'or.Cice of a public meeting ; you yourselves. (Lan titer. I draw
1441,5,1 toe, of ssusl a_ publiermeeting, and followingel avoid acknowledgins, thhaatthevrie Majesty's Ministers_osuethit;rteoe
Government ; and if the
4ps. 4,„„,inis, of Mid Layard ;' and the noble
arc
noble earl concurs inncrott
be held responsible h
Yoiat are not
did 1i000r5,„,t4., new combination of Lord Derby,
and
4ne, °l' aesr atlythild.„..llr- Layard." Now, lam not_t re-rdealing with the late Government alone ,the present
only for the lathes of the I
Vl4l°4l4'l°. . olg hair. Layard may have thouh !o months, but for thfotsbeeoefrtowe
nlaastretwonoe
,411 11e •111 la fear,th 9.r, and a laugh.) My acquaint-
have, no doubt,. been some few sacrifices made in the cases
th. • i hstior,„ I e slightest possible character. UponYaadrBte same. There
There have been some few Jonase
$4, of e sellese haveh_ never had an communication with thfe lateadvis
o individual . di cal change
1), Whi 'Nies " FBA constituted himself the represents- . but,orthe olicy • of the late Adm.
the construction
•heh i s which •in either Maramoisters. . .
lies la ,in the .is very powerful in the country, thrown overboard , . in point of fact, nowr
NANtile iauee° led Main is a just feeling ; but I think that
taken place within the l•istfew
days ? The Minister at
thohot ak-altisa
ot. ,luto an intemperance of language, and the very day on which
Well what has.
nistration has been effected. (Hear.
ils.Whifie to B uaStY and sweeping charges which he gave notice of the resolutions
iirt hehl e ico,iiubstantiate. I cannot help considering, 'ny noble friend . • said, 4, -en
War came down to this house upon
I meant to pro-
Yform on the day
which he
Arititlsitseinsgs t„ his himself, with the impulsive vehemence has moveedastahries
oefvegnrienagt,aadnredi
tk,aesee' right 1,8 character to thepursuit of that which pose a m
qii wh.s of 19.• he has suffered himself to be led into urn-administrative re
this very
th be il'h.wer,:goage, and into expressions and intima:unfortunate, no
upon. wllaiwchastghoeisneg rteosogliuvteioansmatrieeetoto
effectcome on on for discus-
en' (Laughter.) It was very
4:,Noi:::lBtifiel not borne out by facts, and which coulu evening."_
Is de 1 ?Jet. si (Rear, hear.) With all my respect, in which he was
thi)theiecola nitr• La '..1 Yarses abilities, Ido not hold myself, o ,i
• but, in the difficult posi ion .
pointed , his great /Bea-
d cbt that the noble baron should have been thus disap-
Nll,glat Noit. noble friend, nor any of those who concur Placed!.lordships had
f administrative reform until our
yo of my noble
!•lii°Bts„l3f that !cilia, responsible for any act, or word, or
auto
°pronounced your decision upon the resolutions
as
well
he thought it advisable to postpone
it,,e a, °ea ~, sentlenian; nor is there the slightest con-
.lo rile -11sobl •Ministers began
-s s Ooto Nwh 0 friend and Mr. Layard, or any of friend. ,
ortaty, '0 earl 08e oPinions Mr. Layard represents. But as this.
ands he noble lord at the
But there is another House. of Parliament,
sei,PehiiB gove,„°PPosite and the other members of her..
13 growdof the Government, not having quite inconvenientonhe;raMna esty a
so large 'stock
lie ifil ti;° feelis.muleat. were to say that those demonstrations . , a Thel ittl el) r e asureu
e great measure
fl• their hay which we witness in every quarter, and
Ofthe day to which the announcementpostponed. He, therefore,
qOl Who
ipfteev_e• reached the Ministers themselves, have i apatienee as the Minister of War could of
th not wait for
f administrative reform was
load,
his colleague,
ofLai:44°,o hse bue° on the words of myself or of my noble
o t* i ates the statement of the noble
at'''. ler bo eossr°ught forward these resolutions, lam not Si os eLees th
with all due
'4' looks g eons_ .at noble lords opposite have formed ahear.) speak ,
high d With ssoPtion ofadministrative reform.
(Hear, in another Place, which
seisi nisre our views if they think that.. we anticipates
to the House of Commonsl his measures of
respect of what has occurred„...
Issil tsere.Y•seate gard or with neglect on the indications
1441c80t 811 tile `i Public feeling, which has led men a _"these great measures
b p rmitted to observe that It in d . .
pieta
el)risats character, engaged in the discharge of im- in in a manner
phB to 13' part' !Intiea, and who rdinarily shrink from "must not be named to ears politeh. k (a, laugh)but I must
of a coup d'etat.
IvOge !t,u,iti,(l4 Public discussions —Which has led these which bears
laughter.)
o fe
.a d mi a i strativ e
somewhatreforin
the
ew
appearanceere ushere
ver to be a
—rivalling
Vs it,44. the fora time th •
a enst--0 err usua wed laughter)
tile coa neer at
any of a public contest. I cannot look character elsewhere,
IN Ott aat the part of a certain political
terre on
.recently
Who ,orY. j such feeling prevailing throughout coup de terra—(renewed
(hear mh for th2ar_nnot think thatait is safe for your lord- Y.
amused. (Laughter.) On Friday last, nwtehose coups de
aenredwwuoenpll
awake"
44 hue %A Wl°llBe of Co for any parties by which her Ma eat liege. subecs
hqi ~,, ear) - '-'ocsery t• mpo?s, 9r .
noble viscount
ss atailit. sate die a ive principle in this country—great attachment to the . . s
tre 8 fork estati • regard, or to appear to be indifferent to, went and professed .
accident, a gentleman got up in the other
tlist4 oas"°l'lle °1:18 rd. Public feeling (Hear, hear.) Administration; but he
devotion to the service of his .
of
hanroneunsrgesono of YP
alnr fir:-
liotNtar°Bsio',, ana Perhaphelp saying
at the head of her Marsty's Government. and a prodigion
pe„ to , We 't cur opinionwith have
d rho conduct of
swe . forborne ne too long,We
the
Ik-iall illbatr "I've been led regal to e
that he bad been a little disappointed
in the course of
than der. a's her Majesty'sro do so by an earnest desire stated that "he could not, at the same time,
late
ose ow ing t 6 Government, and more es- to be little better than her Majesty's 1
vcrnment seemed
estei elaib'qe£,,,tu:Ptrogress of those negotiations which
last three mouths by the circumstance that the present Go-
lae ~ ~i 'rasa th_"", ely. been brought to a close. Rather ter, he concluded
something
to retrieve is
do - • • h c
tekatien e hay o asovernment in such a critical state of °.
tadvisers." And after an.exhoytatien to the noble viscoun
IE4 of h. a,
,Perhaps, 'at • ° led env, exposed ourselves to the itn fallen."
he. is t, 4%4 '.,Pathetic and indifferent, and we seem " Arise, awake, or be for ever
1 arji sideralsl • oceed with the quotation-
14'8:'aitat* anaant the party to the dangerous conclusion
. with this sublime adjui ation—
(Great laughter.) To
ke,se roe
oreis no hope for them, and that by „
1 'sly °ll th goof doors they must produce that inn- ing ; as when men,
' ate ecne e s Upon the w
tht, Illy
eyed tk rnment which would be more legiti- found by whom they dread,
On duty sleepingthetespwlaminchg,
ell' We se who ugh the two houses of the Legislature.
ti),,°lla til'aelit not old the same opinions with me, think He heard and was abashed 1
spur of the moment,
—and upon the
I 14'21 Of ti, Pecrs 13Y our silence to encourage the growth —renewed( laughter)—and
the House of Commons, anti upon a mo-
t b this
I ti," riot n eotl-11: of opiaions so dangerous to the institu- without notice to Rouse and bestir themselves
•I ts;cilts 'AY that y' (Hear, hear.) But when I say that, Lion for the adjournment
erhaps rather say Tgreat
the slum-
I b4.laart: eod i_ s I concur in all the views, in all the sen- ,manic *and—l should P
rouses herself from h
irZtlo`t:4 thuetall the expressions which have been put I laughter)—the sleeping beautyf es seven years she had
as
DP lot '''• o °f aFc great meeting in the City or at other I hers in which for seven im
tiei,leaollot waitiatirhilaavr_ meta of the house, ,
,01i1i,3 sal —
0, •
arrangements should have
ancient
a o eharacter.
.(Hear, an a tau h ) I i buried, dreaming and puzzling herself all the time t
Bssi, ore es, se. 1 0 said to excite the langhter ofg noble ! how it was possibie that
cli,,' asse`liressed aaY that I do not concur in all the sen- . continued to separate the artilleryter)
For seven times seven
ot Vtiss,tablase at those meetings. But I look upon I in-Chief. (Renewed laugh •
.perpetual
dream, the
~. -
;e et, ere etiona mes indicationsof d -rooted feeling of years that has been the wakene head
1644i(Cnbtt at the
. of her Majest).s
4/ , tOrbd • Re mismanagement of her Me set .
al • 13as ' puzzle of the noble viscount at the
from the Commander
in titO
I'Government. But, some how or another,
Ina 9'at 8 pOr„,art hear.). In matters of what may be ,
4 anat. t oi3' Mercantile character mercantile men 1 course o these seven times seven
'f
lidi 411 a thee. !Albite h • e I. d most.' tutted to him to reduce the phantom
at *it' ctrl business has been conducted of his imagin i.bai
eli ihl the 1 a ill , ,and that much more might have been to a reality.. (Laughter.) Animated, however, Ina
by the ,
00
it suddenly strut
a' Bati,;atne time smaller expenditure. But I must say, spiration of his Parliamentary Mentor, su
Ibe separateil,
years it nevyre.toc
I;l:AN,,,aotise,liiae, that I believe man arsonsp, in their the noble viscount, that if they ought not to
now . a ._.
es, 1,0 eillant, hat the rnisrnno reason why they should not h
.ac",i_bt
sir leh osehi . ave h_ • anagement of he r Majesty's there was .
,Ita ha th, arena
w. oen led to wrong and exagge- 1 bined ; and, acting upon the idea, ho sprung u, ti,s
Depart'
i' V(' 41 %re 8, Ith es led
to the causes of the evils I place, and proposed. to hand over the Ordnance
if the I.Pite h tID,,n thanxieus to remedy. The ordinary lan- ment to the Minister of War and to place the artillery
G, 0 IneC.helel-ntthat is Jett is, that it. is not the men but under the control of the Commander-in-Chief. (Hear, and
,i 1 4 I
Vitha I"ae the evil blame; but sane persons attribute ; &laugh.) With respect to the proposition itself, I shall
ii 4 a to the monopoly that I consider it to be my duty to wait
of every office of I merely observe
the' 'th„r that'iiittl. emolument by the aristocracy ; while until it is befarlst.us ineil before lonvivaekveeranythraetmatLke
, At ,44t4r„Iltil ronitB all
owing to an adherence to routine, I with reference to Certain I . h
" 111.sc Is got rid of there can be no hope Minister. of War ea h
' • 11, •te he n ave no objection to t e respite
NOW'
1. Wish to say a few words upon the . has obtained with respect to the development of the plans
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