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Nast be a strong case, made out for a power which took this step, that
Oat Id induce them, the House of Commons, to refuse their aid against the
aggression.— (Hear I)—If America held the opinions site now advanced,
America must be told that we, as she well know, .would not give up the
Tight to search neutrals for contraband of war..--(Hear ).—lf Ameri-a
thought she could, by any regulations of her own, enable British sub-
*s to shake of the al:egiance they owe.' their Sovereign, and niake
rit.ms American citiettis, she must be told, that England would never
submit to a practice so unjust, unreason .ble, and degrading—(Heur,
bear !)--that art, never could consent to such a claim. But nevertheless,
in his opinion, we might have treated on the unfortunate subject of int-

pressment. •
Mr. BAILING did not believe the American declaration of war was at
all connected with the state of Bessie and France.. which had no in
Illuence on the American Go eriiment. They looked little to European
politics; and it was impossible to read the paperi produced, and not
see that the sole cause of the war.was the Orders in Council. t'he No-
ble Lord said there were about 14100 American seamen in our service,
but had nut noticed that -there were 16,000. of our seamen in the se;..
vice of Arnerica.-s( Hear, hear !)—At least ten to oile. He stated this
tO shoe that it was even in re fu. our own interest than for the interest
* Of 41,410e1'ica to call for and 'court nerciation upon the subject of an
. rangement upon this point. With respect t. the American certificates,
he narrated a !act which bad happened within his own ktiowledv,
which showed, that in this also it was for our benefit to entertain urge).
.eiation rather than exclude it. In a ship. in which be arrived ut Ports.
month, from •Ametica, a person *came on board to search ter British
seamen. All his crew produced certificate• but one, who was carried
off in the boat, upon which the Awe. ican Captain burst into a laugh,
and said, .g there, they have taken a man who was never before out of
Pennsylvania in his life, and thinking nobody could doubt it, did nut
take the precau'ion of.procuriog a certificate, and have left ihree fellows
who have nut been six; months out of a Man of war, but have been wiser
in this respect."
Mr F. T. H. roaren (the late Ambassador to the United States)
could not agree with the assertion of the Honourable Gentlemen; that
there was no party in America friendly to France; but there were
Timmy emigrants among them who did not deserve such a character ;
of these. some from the-ister island were conspicuous, and there were
no fewer than
.sic Irishmen in the American Congress. remarkable for
their inveterate hostility to this country, for the war with which they
hetet voted. With the eaceptiun of the capital where men were well
infortuesl and sensible, the mass of the inhabitants eif Pensylvania were
tgporant and boorish in their manners. But in the Northern States,
Englishman might travel with pride and pleasure. finding there
Oren endowed with uncommon affection for their country, and also
with a natural iffeCtion fur that country which was tilt it parent stock.
It was in that quarter, in New Engli.nd, w here they were mokt af-
fected by the Orders in Ciao. cif mid the Blockade ; for out of 1,04,000,
the whole tonnage of Arnet lea, their share amounted to four-sevenths ;
and yet all to the north of Hudson's there was no cry against these
Orono, but the cry was raised in the middle state-, which possessed a
very small proportion of shipping. Whether the difference as to im-
pressment could be settled, he was net avare,.but this-be.tould state—
after the war bad been declared a few dac s he had h conversation
with the America,. Ministers, in which that subject was nor iiientiiiiied
as a paramount consideration, but in the usual way as a niinur griev.
once, while the Orde a in Council were held forth as the only good
end ostensible I.bracles to peace. (Year, hear!)--Little did her
think, that after their repe4l, Use rica, with so many inducements to
.be at peace, would continue at war. Bin he d.rubted the strength of
fhe government to carry a beneficial measure against the party with
many heads. whii had determined an war
M•• WHIT BR FAD reprobated the disgraceful practices in America,
. of obi ,ining certificates of eitignship ; but it was not proved by the
Noble Lord, that those were the neer of the Government, or that they
hed been privy to ouch scand..lous proceedings. The system, however,
Of noturalirltion was not CliliflUed to America, for there were statutes
f the Legisheare of 'his cluntry, which veer t 6 every •terei..uer. after
peeving for the period of 2 yew• in the Ilr,tisli Nary, all the protection
of a British sulject fle should be glad to know the meaning of the
StOth ,f Queen Anne Prow the Chime it was.clear,
iject, or the sii%ject i.f any otli; r country, had
board It British ship, he would not be given up
merit, it demanded. • . •
ied, the -Statute which the lion. Gentleman (Mr.
to, he waidisposerr to ccutstrue very differently.
that Act; to place the subject of another culla-
, Would, in the event' of war with that cntmtry,
gii.nce to his huvereign. •It &A., ►of appear to (lira
on the fare r4' the papers 'before the.Honsc,
4ait country bad Out the door against

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negoelatioh. With respect to that part of the Noble Lord's (Castle.
reagh) speech, alluding to the nine at which America th aught proper to
commence hostilities, he did not by any means consider it out of reason.
Every person who looked to the state of Europe at that time—who
looked to the fortunes which this country had at stake--who looked to
the useful, if not the splendid part which America might have taken in
that contest—who looked at the infant child of Britain becoming the
ally of France and the plunderer of Spaire-e(liear, hear!)--lending her
aid in support of the most desolating tyranny that e'er opp!'esed
the woild ; looking at all this, it was impossible MA to feel indignant
that Ore had lost an opportunity which no combination of circumstencea
could perhaps over again restore. He would nut go so tea as ter wish
America had decriared war against France. lie never thought it to
be her proper policy. He merely wished her to remain iu a state of
neutrality. He regretted the war had not been more vigorously tut.,
ducted, bin- would give the Address hie support.
Mr. CROKER stated, tha Gcvernment had Sent orders to their
Naval Officers, in the event (f a war, to sink, burn, and destroy.
On the very day that the Americans had declared war 4,7einst Great
Britain, Commodore Rodgers put to sea, although it was supposed he
had not received any instructions from his Government to that tg.v.t.
In a few days a British squadron was sent in pursuit of Commodore
Kogan and his fleet. The British Admiral wisely thought that some
blow was aimed at the commerce of this country ; he therefore went
to protect the. West huh.] fl.!er. It was proved that he was right is
his supposition, f r while protecting it, he tell in with Commodore
Bodge's, and cave him space, out unfortunately he made Lis escape.
He then defeeded the conduct of the war. The forging; of certificates
was carried on in Philadelphia to a great extent. Not long since, a
certificate had been prese.,ted by a mulatto, in which he was described
as a person of a fair complexion with light eyes —(A laugh.)—la
another ca: e, a certificate was presented at the Admiralty, only five
days aft r the date on which it was purported to have been signed at
New York. This was not' an abuse of petty clerks, it was, he re.
plated, an act recngnised by the American Government. It had
been proved that an A me rican Consul at London, of the name of
Lyman, had sold a certificate to a man for a guinea. When this
waa known at the Admiralty, a letter was written to Mr. Lyman,
sayitlg, that no more of his certificates would be received. To this
letter Mr. Lyman sent an angry reply, in which he expres-ed his con-
fidence that he would meet with the support of the American Go.
verpment.
After a few explanations, the question was carried n.m. con.—Ade
journed.

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!FRIDAY, TM 19t
Mt. R. B. CAREW brought up the Report of the Cornmi:,ee aPe,
pointed to consider the merits of the Petition against the return o:. the
Members to serve for Colchester. which rated that the sitting Mem-
bers had been duly elected) and that the Petition was not frivolous nor
vexatious.
SHAFTESBURY PETITION.
Mr. BLACKBURN, the Chairman of the Committee upon the Shaf.
tesbury Election Petition, brought up the report of the• Committee.
and stated at the bar that the sitting Members; R. Robson, Esq. aid
H. Gurney, Esq. had not been duly Oetted, mitt that the Petitioners
against the election, C. Wetherall, Esq. and E. Ellison, Esq. ought
to have beet returned, and that they sere accordingly now the sitting
Members for Shdftesbury.
Mr. Wt LEER FORCE presented a Petition from the Society incorpo.
rated by Charter in Scotland, for propagating Christian knowledge,
praying that, in case the East India Charter should be renewed, they
would be permitted to extend their labours to India. Ordered to lie
on the table.
• The Manchester Water Works Bill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed.
A Petition was presented from the Corporation of the town of Wal-
sall-, by Lord'G. L. Gower, against' the fast India Company's Char-
ter. —0 rdetecho lie on the table.
The Upper East Smithfield Improvement Bill was brought in,
ancttead a first, and ordered to be read a se, ono! tirue•en Monday.
A Petition was presented Pim the Borough of Crittnarvon, against
the-Catholic claims. Ordered ter lie on the. table
ADDRESS TO THE PRfgrrREGENT.
LOrd CASTLEREAGH brought up the Report of the Address to the
Prince Regent, Winn the subject of America.' which. after a few
words from Mr. Herbert, was read a second time, and agreed to, and
ordered to be presented to the Prineiby such of the Members as be.
longed to his Majesty's Privy Cotancil. •
Lord CASTLEREAGH brotiglidn a Bill to repeal a part of the Act,
by which Justices of the Peace were empowered to fix the rate of
jdurneymens' wages. • Read a first time, and ordered to b.: read a se,
cond time on Wednesday. • • • • • - • • •

Sir C. BURRELL stated to the House, that he would oppose any
measure that would be brought into that House, relative to the in-
vestment of property by the AccOlUnaAt-General, in ihe funds, by
Order cf the Court of Chtgletry. *- '• • •

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