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MMily of this Res*lotio.t. If there ems s tionbt,
lissrever, hr thosizta 16 Rim)lsation corrict.
Mt. LOC KHA RT ibirpterl to deeming the Isw by

atutotefelelatiag Ile election., and said. that it
ltd -Itesistuquo„. if
Ines' -
wee operattm. The Judges would
nik4 be Wind by'thiir' Resolution, but by -their .
itilieurnstructiOes gf 'the stitch/law. A Reiolut ton
of Illet House'had not the force of law. The legal
eMistruhtion of the statute might he in flue way,
std. the Itesblntioei iU another.--(Hear, Acar.)-
4,2tely such a conthetisig emit would be very in-
inexpedient. He doubtlievaiirther their own Com-
mittees svoydd he bound by it: •
Mi. A salicitotteir
Mr. WARREN concurred in the vie+ taken of
the matter by the. Hon. and Learned aentlithen
erho spoke last: The Resolution would be Useless
if the liw was at present clear, sod it Might be
inoperative if it contrevened the statute, for by the
latter the law would be alone expounded by the
Judges.
Mr. WYNN explained, that in all cases where
money we. given by a candidate to a voter, under
any pretence whatever, it was an offence against law.
Dr. PH1E1.1510116 replied, and the House di.
sided, wisest the namhers were—.
For the Re501uti0n......:......... 66
Against it ............ 60
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• Majurily ref 6
Mr. A BERCROMIIT said this Hesolution was or
inconvenient a nattsre, that he felt himself bound to
give notice of a motion respecting it early in the
ensuing Session of Parliament.
Mr. BEN NETT presented a Petition from so in-
dividual whose saute we could not learn, praying
for permission to have in a trial with the Middlesex
Magistrates, the evidence of the clerk and short-
hand writer of the Police Committee.
The pr .yer of the Petition was agreed to.
THE QITEENN COUNSEL.
Mr. BROUGHAM rose, in pursurtice of the notice
he. had given, to request, under the peculiar cir-
•eomslancer. the COW. the permission for which he
had 144 night applied. He then unwed_

0 That under the ywenliar eiresnistancts of the ease,
lease ite ;cern to her Majesty's Attorney-General soil Soli-
s itur.G. sweet, Metals. es sd that Honor, to plead as Counsel
at theliaref the Noose of Lords against a Bill passing their

Lee nips' House. amatarially striding to She rights and
privileges of the Quern, awl that she varier shall not be
drawn into si prverdent w Susie to come, for infringing cm
ohm Order of she Hoene which prohibits Members of the
Mims. of Csissatims Orem pleading professionally on private
Moat Ilse bar of the Went a L4e4s."
Lord CASTLEREAGH dill not rise to melte any
objection to the motion. The am was one of OW
il.Olll importance. and if there were two Members
of that House to whom her Majesty might wish to
intrust her defence. he could hive no objection to
allowing it. At the same time. he could see no
rrirson'vihy the same indulgence should not be ex-
tended to any other professional persons who might
Irish to ezert their tricots when called upon iota
do. He thought that the King's Attorney mild
Solicitur-General were quite as well entitled to the
indulgence as the Queen. Officers. The same fa-
vour ought to he Arvin by the House in support of
the Bill as alpinist it. He would therefore move
',Awe au amendment. to the motion. to that effect,
ier he would produce a new motion, after that of
the Hon. and • Learned Gentleman should be dis-
posed or.
,Ir. W. WYNK said, that sluice the earliest
iir rind of the Jouruals of their-101).e, it had been a
asap s. of the House not Si) allow Member. to plead
as the bar of the House of Lords on Bills passing
C.roligli Parliament. witlonit elptcial lease being
g.sei, by the House for the purpose. lii 1604, a
sate occurred in which the House had enforced the
order ; the Speaker of that time said that he had
been called on to mosberr for a similar offence in the
reign of Quer', Elisabeth. Front that time to the
present the coder had been continued. Indeed it
nom he seen that it was impossible fairly to allow,
Members to plead prufeloimuilly upon Bills in the
Upper House upon which they would untoward. be
culled to judge in character of legislators in the Lower
Mute. He thought thst the standing order, which
only extended to Itlti brought down from the
"Lords, should extend to Bills of every description.
Tie jealousy from which that blending ender ema-
nated was most reasonable. It was possible (hr Sled
oot bay it would happ.a.) that professional Members
of that House might be selected by persons in the
*Upper Home to plead on Bills. iii hope of secur-
ing them in the Committee of the Lower House
when the Bills should be sent Joon, and a source of
impure patronage might thus be created. The order
had beew continued hoot interruption till after
he Restoration. when in strong controversy

look plaice as to the appl►cability of the standing
order in questions of apps 1. The precedents
.after that time wire unifortoly against the infringe..
meta of the order. In some instances. the House
'ad relined permission to Minbers applying for
such leave. and one Resolution declared that no
'ember could plead without die perinission of the
House in cases of appeal. He suggested that it
would be better for the wordy, " the seine not to
'be drawn into a precedent," tkc. to stand by them.
selves. without stating any cases to which the pro-
tobition was to emend, because there vow no like.
Isbood of any case like the present occurring sgkin ;
whereas, if the cases were stated, the present per-
mission would be liable to be construed into a pre-
cedent, especially in esses too included its the terror
of the prohibition. As to rh. *notion of his Noble
`friend, he could not see' ill a there was any thing
Mite the same reasons for•ext-ttiting the indulgence.
to the Kisig's Attorney and Solicitor-General. The
cases were entirely different.. The parties stood iu
dissimilar circumstances.

Mr. Boozes concurred with the motion,wislt the
abridgment of his Hon. Friend.
The motion was then agreed to.
Lord CASTLEREAGH then r' to make the UMe
motion on behalf of the Klee, Attorney and So-
licitor-General. He admitted the th-tinction of the
Honourable Gentleman Wynn.) The par.
ties were certainly not. they. rouid sot he in the
bugle circu ra man etc But the lasi officers of the
'Crown who had advised the proceeding, were cer.
trendy the most proper persons to conduct it. Ills
Lordehtp expatiated on the great aultsuitage it
would be to the proceedings of that House. in case
the Bill should be sent down, to hive two Gentle-
men on each side of the House, who would be able,
auto their iknowledge of the case, and after baying

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cror,seimssined tlat iskuseemea, Matta*lly
the iotriiries of tie Aleuthers: .
Mr_ nut .dais this motion
as willingly as the other ; in thi•csee of granting
lease to the Queen's Attorney and Sulicitor-Gr-
at. it wet out likely UP be dawn into a prece-,,
I.llleit. h•caute it would not omen again. But It
Gls Afferent with the King's Attorney and Soli.
&or-Gem-rid, who might Ike culled to plead in
many Bilk of very vanois* 'There
was danger of smell r case tieing by degrees
turned
Lord CASTLEREAGH thought' that could scarcely
happen, when it •was to be declared, as in the first
eve, thet it should not be drawn into a wecrilent.
. Mrs W. WILLIAMS did not see the same neer.-
sit) for granting this leave as the first.
Mr. Baomutisse thought the difficulty offer-
ed by Mr. W. Wynn not quite got over by 'the
explanation of the Noble Lord. The Quern could
only be represented by the Counsel whom she
might choose to appoint. The KIIIV. was much
better represented, in a proceeiiiiig by 11111.. by the
whole House of Peers. lie would lint oppose the
Oumoo, but lie protested against the principle of
the Noble Lord's argument drawn from the alleged
similarity the cues.
Lord CASTLEREAGH 'maintained the equal ne-
cessity fur allowing the King's professional Advo-
cates to act to support of. as those of the Queen
against the Bill.
The motion was agreed to.
Dr. LUSIIISOTuII said, that her Majesty the
Queen luring been pleated to signify Is.r wishes,
that lie should ailsi his profestional terriers to those
of, her legal officers, he hail to lag of the House
the same indulgence which had been extruded to
the Counsel on both sides ; of course lie would hied
himself by the sense obligation entered inn' by her
Majesty's Officers, not In vote 111,09 the ques • .
He inured fur the same leave to be granted bins, •
under the same conditions, cud in the same terms
at the others,

Lord v...ASTLEREAGH observed, that lir had al-
Frady given his opinion that any iudividual of that
House was entitled to the indulgence.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH remarked how siere.oary it
was that the Queen should have one Civilian among
her Counsel. The bar of the Civil Law was so
small. compared with the bar of C Law,
the choice was so limited in the former case, that
there was more then ordinary reason fur granting
the indulgence in this cast..
Mr. W. WYNN thought that there were no
special circuinsiances in this case to reipure the in-
dulgence. The Civil Bar wail small, but there
were Professors enough to choose from witliont
selecting the Members of that House. The
and Learned Gentleman was not of her Msjesty's
regular legal advisers. He did not see how such
cases could be prevented from being drawil into
precedents.
Mr. Maxim did not approve of extending the
indulgence. He would negative the motion.
The motion was agreed to by the House.
Mr. BROUGHAM obtained leave to bring in a Bill
to Improve the R&M gg i g trifler) of endowments for
the education of the poor.

MASTERS IN CHANCERY (IRELAND.)
Sir J. NEWPORT wished to call the attention of
the House to • notice which he would give for to-
morrow. or else. if the forms of the House would
admit of it. to • motion which lie remold then sub-
mit. The House would recollect that tit she pro.
Kress of a Bill for regulating the offices of the Irish
Chancery Court a clause had been added. which
prevented those who held offices from sitting its
Parliament, leaving it to the option of the parries
to choose which office they would retain. The
clause had been passed by a considerable majority.
Under these circumstances he thought it was
scarcely decent that the clause should have been
commented on, as he found it had been in terms
very little respectful, which he would read to the
House, from the report of a meeting of the Guild
of Merchants in Dublin. He then read extracts
from the speeches and resolutions of • meeting of
the Guild of Merchants, held at the Shakespeare
Grllery, on Thursday last, in the City of Dublin.
The extracts were as follow :
Dr. Blacker said, that "the Bill now pending in Perlin.
mew. a clause of which went to deprive them of their chosen
Representative, would be, if not speedily prevented, a wrung
of the greatest magnitude ; he had, therefore, been induced
to lint together a woks of Resolutions; no doubt some per.
suns might stippuee the language ton strong; but lie *timid
say in reply to such persona, that their rights were infringed
upon by the Minister. He would say, that the Minister,
Lord Castlereagh, had infringed upon their rights; and he
(Lind Chstlereagb) must be 'oh', in thunderiug language,
the irrupts he has dared to put on them. as soft language
would have nu effect upon him, he (Lord Citallereagh) bar.
tug degraded himself by his conduct "--(Loapliter.i
The Noble Lord hod one cuusulainiti, that he
was not alone its this abuse. The Hop. Member
for Kustesborough was included as well. He would
read one of the Irt.aolutions-
1, Resolved, That we contemplate with great alarm anal
Constitutietud jealousy. the recent p.oceedings of the
House sif Corniatuis, as regards the introduction of • chime
into the Irish Chancery Bill, to prevent Masters in the
Court of Chaweery is Ireland from sitting or voting is the
Houma Cumulous. particularly as it tends to reoder
gatory the election of our mprrted Representative-11140W
Ellis, Esq. anal this by a retrospective effect (he not being
at the time of his elresion disqualified by any law), oper-
ating thereby sun ex poet facto law, and, consequently,
in direct opoositiou to the leading prioseiples of our glorious
Constitution.
" Resolved, That we consider the freemen and freeholders
of thus great City to be is every point of view the most ems-
petent judges of what may be for the advautoge or disethellee
tage of their uwn immediate interests, as far as respects the
parliamentary emiduct of their Representatives; and that
great body having maturely weighed and considered the as-
sent to which those interests might be affected by their
Repreoentive holding the situation of a Master in Chancery,
and having, Ate such mature considtrati 111 l elected Mr.
Ellis by a great majority, we cannot bit view any measure
tending to disturb that election. and 114 involve the City ie
the renewed horrors of another comical, as unwise, unjust,
and uoconatimitional.
Resolved, That from all the circumstance* tinder which
this Home was introduced into the House of Commons, we
feel tiosselvcs sorrowed ssi di nouliciag it as au attempt to
degrade legislation to the enrpoaes ammo/.
' Resolved, That to the lull confideuee that the Moose of
Luitis adl not give the *auction of dna I, gislasih.
lily to 1114* enormity of principles su rsiuksstly 'Omani iu
the weichnonitutionul clause alluded to, se .I.• respeetis rip
submit to that Mouse • Petition grotool..l opus. the foie-
going Resulutious, and that a Committee be now •p.
pistoled to prepare said Petition, -ausi to scud it forward
thalami delay."
lie won'd read uor more instutiee front a epre,Cli
; of one of the perl/011111 Irrr4titt.
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