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ober the iteport •of she •Sreret Cuissmoime. and-.
Bill being brought in grounded ear it, reed a first
time, and applianiuu made be her Majesty ot the
bar, by her Couweel, that delay &World trot take
place, that it woo impossible that their Lordship*
shoold not proceed forthwith. He would ask. (or
the benefit of the public sod the lows of,the coon..
sm. whatolie Noble and Learned bird ma the
Woolsachitheant, when he aimke.of Bills of ibis
'nature? •Did be mean Bills of Divorce co g is,
osupetition asking for relief, or did he mean a Bill
of. Pains and Peueltim ? for this was the effect of
tbe peterat Bill. In Bills of Attaisider delarwas
noteabal; if this wee of that nature. there would
bee. cairstfor delay, and nothing had bees stated
by the Noltle Earl to *hew how delay was pieces.
wary in the present instance. except the attend-
ance of the Judges, and that was the obely ground
.:that he could listen to for delay. It was their
duty to grant all the protection us ;their power
to the.lllastrious Personage *ceased. If his
Ma-
jesty's Ministers worsted delay. Irt .thefts Ow*
what it was for is plump and phis, terms. Warr
it to get further evideoce shoo• ilm green bag
cemented ? Was it. that they thosight what it con-
tented was not sufficient to support Ilte-artusousti.
cud tbey wanted to collect othel..ersidehee ?
considered it as a Bill of Pains and Pewillier, wlrat•
ever other designation might be gives to it ; and
although it was an Act only called for no certain
great occanosis, their I.ord,liipe might to know,
before -they allowed delay, why it was asked fur,
'particularly after the priwerful appeal that had been
-made to them at their her that it should be imme-
diately proceeded in. He, for our. would riot coo.
Sent to delay without the mom was explabied. and
if . it :was. sod proper ground* 'hewn for- it, he was
certain that their. Lordships and the public would
be rati.fied.

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The Earl of Limettooot. said, he acknowledged
that it was a Bill of pains nod Penalties, and not
strictly a Bill of bivoree, for the latter wrs founded
ou a Petition for Me relief of au individual, but
this was a Bill to relieve the State. What lie
meant by naming neat Monday as the d iv to sp.
poiqtetime for thiyarcend reading of the Bill was,
Built Lie did not think the present was the proper
time fur entering into the question. When her
.Mejesty's Counsel were last heard at the liar they
asked far a delay of nine or tin weeks, thee her
Majesty could not complain of the delay of a fort-
night.ne three weeke, for the purpose to enable
the Judges to be.p.weetst.
The Marquis of 'LANSDOWe void, he would not
ceocede, at the requestof the Learned Cousewl %rho
had been heard at the bar, for their Lordships to
proceed void) the midi iu 24 hour', bat he thought
by *at titer they aught to know when they would
proceed. The Noble ;Earl (Liverpool) hatiiiis•hail
the good fortune 10-pershade their Lordships to up-
wine Secret CsittlitiOter.pod on their Report hair.
lug -brought in • Atli, he ought to be mudded to
Mate whose it should.be ',reposed to go through its
Lieeciiii) stage. kie.artould not agree to its being
one tidy later than the necessity of lime
case, required, elk the Noble Earl (Liverpool)
ought to be able ticajate boldly at the present mo-
ment what were the circuinstsoces that called fir
greater delay; this' he was bound to do to enable
their Lordships ludo justice to the high parties; as.
to the attendance of the Learned Judges, if the
• proceediug was ppatponed to Monday. they would
be called oe char judicial duties usual at this time
of the year.
The Fail of CARteAItVON asked what would
-the public think, after the length of time this pain-
ful beanie's hail • limn agitated, that when her
M.,jesty called 'for immediate inquiry, she was re.
fused ? If they „were obliged to have delay. he
--hoped it wool* not he on account of a public
or pagewue.und that they would not be called
ifieui such a ettleve -proceeding as the present, to
•• view a pagradety.llrat neceseity did not tall for at
• the prevent moment. There was no necessity to
call on the Mossaich to tennis's!' in pomp, while
• charge of the worst kind •was-penditig• against
his Royal Consort.--(fienr, hesr.)—He wished to
impress it on the advisers of slit Crown to advise
their Stwereigh not to proceed with the idle slier ;
aisil if they did not, be would give notice that
he would on some future day move an Address to
his Majesty, that he would b^ most graciously
pleased to postpone the'Curonadon.
Earl GIRT said hearted with his Noble Friend
that the ceremony which be had alluded to ought
to be postponed; he was convinced it was the with
of every thinking man in diet House allil out of it.
As to the question immediately before their Lord.
ibis)+, he was of opiate.' the Noble Earl (Liver•
pool) ought to have beeu prepared to have stated
the course of proceeding he intended to recoin-
mend,and lie would think it his duty to call on him
to do satins night, but if that was thought 'inertness•
able. he would do so to-tuarerow, which ought to he
the latest day allowed in to make Isis statement.
Ile was at a loos to koala what could be the cause
of delay ; was be afraid that he could not get suf-
ficient of their Lordsisipticollected together ou such
a solemn occasion ? He (Earl Grey) was aware
how inconvelieut it was to their Loritillllol to re-
main in toile at this season Of the year ; but this
lie also knew, that their Lordships would undergo
any inconwenience sower limn not to Jo their
duly. A mouth hail elapsed since the Secret
Committee bed been appointed. and the Noble
Earl ought to be ready in teesity.four beers to pro-
duce hie witnesses its support of leis Bill. As to the
Learned Judges. if thew judicial assistance was
uscesouy, the lass delay the better. as on the I.sth
of limit mooth the Nertlwau eireutt eounneuced.
He therefore hoped the Rome would call on the
Noble Earl (Liverpool) to make his etateinent to-
morrow instead of mosid.lcood iii that expechitiou
he nttuld morello; their t4ritrliips should be autu-
molted Go tieusouww. ~„'
ThetEed of Doite.Ler mipioeted the motion of
Foul Grwy.
Lard BELHAVEN said a few words, but in such

Adjourned at Nine o'Clock. ).1 %go,
HOUSE OF COMMONS, TnilisliSAW,J9Lw S. 1
The ballot fpr the Committee Du the Election Petitio•
front Aberdeen Mok place, the Members chimes. basi—
l'. S Ries • C. A. Phelps
Prier W. L. Itlatierly
W. Kirin*, Joh, lanes
J H. Tremsyne J. H. Calcroft
Lord C. Fitzroy Hon. I.lllnmers Cocks
R. P. Scsidaniore J. H. Blair,
David Carr .1. P. Grout
Lord Mount Charles •
Sit J. IlsCelterosit said that • deagerous inietake bootleg
takes place respecting a notice of his of yesterday. he
took She first opportunity of Co/meeting it. It was on Booties
respecting Ilse right of manumitting Slaves is the Colossi,"
Isles. His °Orel was to recommend, in egret. • mcwisider-
sti aaaa of all thwtorrAffeciing the inansiniirion and transfer
of sloven. Ile would lee sorry to be thweight *capable of pro-
posing a Maiden emenripntiois, or x emblem aleeralitio of any
hied, its the laws relative to the property of slaves, whit',
could not rid to be pernielons not wily to the interests.of
the empire, bat would cause the utmost distrait; to the slaves
themselves. .•
A Dill to regulate the removal of Irish rite was brought
in and read • first time. A brief t xplattatilni took place,
from whirs it appeared, that it is not intended Ise press it
throng's all its stages this Session.
REFORM. ,
Mr. Honitotnor row lo present • Petition, which, in his
humble opinion, from the subject to which it referred, and
the allegations it contaioird, was most important. It was a
Petition for • Refit.," in the COMIUOITI Hoose•of Parlia-
ment. He was •ware, sfter the Hon. Nleinber lor.Durlinso
had withdrawn his motion on Reform for the Semite, lbw it
would not be proper fur him to take up the time of the
Haute in ionsinentiog much on that subject ; btu the Peti-
tion which lee held in his hand, as it appeared to him, con-
tained circumstaoces which, if proved, most amulet the
very minstilutiue of that Noose. The Petition was signed
by wily one individual—John Cartwright...--(Weatr.)---
'lite name of that Gentleman might perhaps, from. the well.
known tenor of his life and opinions, lead to a fear or sop-
mmitiou that the Petition had reference to that system of
reform or of representation which he was kenos to advocate;
hot, in fact, the Petition was monatied is its consideration
to the effect@ which the infinesee of Peers had is electing
Ore Members to
Ileum had 'resiliently shewn its objectioo to such influence,
awl many were the measures which it bad adopted to prohi-
bit mud prevent the interference of Peers in popular elec.
Prism the very first urigiss of Parliaments this had
been the case. It might be questioned J there were auy
Parliaments al the period is the sense in which the title was
at present accepted, but there was an Art passed in the
reign of Edward I. called the Westminster Statute, which
declared it to be illegal for Peers to kited's* at elections.
He need mat mention either this or any of the others which
had followed it, aud of which Members mist be own*, hav-
ing the same object. A Resolution was regularly essfered
un their Joarnals at the commencement of the first Srisioa
of each Parliament. declaring it to be illegal. and a.high
breech of the privileges of the House. for Peers to later.
fere its the electiou of its Members. In 1703 o Petition
was draws up, sad Mgr's{ by some of the finstoid ablest
mess in the couotry, in which the Petitioners stated tp the
House that no less than 150 Members, were retrieved by the
direct influence of Peers,' and that 40 Peers Shat. through
the burgage tenures and borough property whisk they
possessed, were able In, seed eighty-one Meehan to • Par.
lismetit. row Petitioss would be found on the 4issenals
of the House. It stated that one hundred fifty-four Illeathers
were returned through she borough patroeage gale' yml. by
77. Since that peliod, by the creation of wir Per., to
most of whom borough patronage appertained, the number
had been se increased, that, aocardiog to the Petition which
lie held is his baud, there were sow 196 Members retarned
tlsrangh the itilluvoce of 98 Peers. If the Petition staled
any thing like she trolls, it must be high time to inquire
into the facts, nr else give up the solemn mciekery'of renewing
the Resolution hitherto regularly entered on their Journals.
The Petition was ordered to be printed.
The Exeter Market Bill was read a third time and passed.

FRANCE AND SOUTH AMERICA.
Sir R. Wit.sou, seeing a Noble Lord in 'his place, wished
to know if say communication bad been made to the Bri-
tish Government frilliVe to the designs of France, nut only
to recognise the iudepeudence of the South American States,
but to place a Prince of the House of Bourbon on the throne
of these States. The subject was of deep and general in.
terrat, commercially, and every way. He treated there
woold be no objection to giving the House linfunnation
ou it.
Lora CAIITIMICAGII, in the present stale of the informs.
t' of the Government, declined giving any reply to the
yetetion.
THE QUEEN.

Mr. tioLFORD brought up the Report front the
C mutter appointed to inspect the Journals of
the Lords, which Report detailed the proceedings
which tank place in their Lordships House on
Wednesday (/•ur she Gemini of which proceediags
see one Paper of ye+ferdey).
On the motion that the Report do he on the
tehle

Lord Cssmasscn reminded the House of the
engsgrment he hail mode, to submit a motion to
the House on the Queen's Answer *is this day, in
case no proreeding should have-intervened to make
it unneceseary, The Report of the Committee was
a case, such us he had deemed it probable
duce Inv to drop the motion which he had in Ins
mind ot the time of the notice. It might now be
convenient for the Hullos Irvine's!. what . course he
meant to trursue, still in what situation the HI/YIN
mood in relation to the' adjourned delsste ow the
King's Message. His intestine was to 116111410119 iw
the first place, the first object which he had in
view in giving the notice. He then intended to
move the postponement of the adjourned debate.
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Mr. IIERNEY did not are how the Noble Lord
could go into the latter subject then. The Noble
Lord had give., notice of u motion which he then
abandoned.
Lord CAIPTLIBILEASH mid that lie lad not aliens
dossed it.

Mr. TIERNEY understOod that the Noble Lord
dropped the motion• comprised is his first notice.
The motion of the gallant General (Ferguson) came
between that tir.t • mittee and the lest. Which the
Noble Lord now wanted to bring'un first.
Lord CASTLEREAGH mitt that the notice of a
proceeding hiirifig been instituted in the Upper
fliwie.•governed Inns to give the object of hie tint
motion. But he felt it to be hi. dory to mike use
of the oppottimity. in order to move the order of the
day for the resenting the adjourned debate, with a
view to motoring it'twi more dinnost period. If the
Speaker dratted thot thia coins* crlu M not 'wallow.
ed, he most submit, but otherwise he felt himself
baited to persevere.
TheSttmits said, the, .strictly operkingi-atry

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contanorsi ■ purliewiar conjoin, ■nu wRo
partiouter iwonditiohn,. Wings eebid hot hove bed.
koretto at the tie* of eepterieg the gr.t. The
Howse nsn.t thts-Awe*letervoine for itself. if it
*cold Admit the last motion In he made the ob.
jed iii she first nosier.
Lard CAsTl.allaAall said, that he had no inter.
116,1 Of MIMES/6MS of giving a formal notice in what
he had stated on moving for a Committee to in. ,
street the Journals. He had merely wished iu caw
dour to Rut the noose in !woes's'''. 4 the views
which lie had at to 'heir f,lture,,meeeding•.
Mr. Tscissinv arid. that his understassoling of
the Noble Lord had been, that if nothing were
those in the Fleteve of Lords, he !mold on this day
have to submit a motion to the Howie; but if
pr.iceeilings Were already instituted. then there
west° be no ntotion. Fur his own part he did nut
(-are on which motion the debate came—that of she
Noble Lord, Of tlnst of the gallant Genets,. In
either eve the di.cwwion wools! Walt probably go
into the mort►iug. But he slid not think the Noble
Lordhad a tight to the precedence of his gallant
Friend.
Lord CASTIMMAGH thought that Ise was entitled
to !proceed, but again referred to the decision of the
Speaker.
The SpiAt►t said. that the matte► being refer.
red to him, he must take notice of it. After point.
log out the merits of the case on either side, as be-
fore, he left Ilse House to determine.
Mr. Caminito said. that his Noble Friend had
got into this dilemma by using too mods candour.
In future he would lean to he less explicit.
Mr. ABERCaollliT admitted that the terms of
the flint notice were se general that they would al-
low the soccession of any motion. But he did not
approve of the Noble Lord anticipating a debate
by attempting to discharge to-day a notice which
stood for to-mo►row. Such a practice must lead to
great inconvenience.
Lord CAIIIMERSAGH then declined pressing the

to to..
Orkney Island.. it was ant • questions, wbeth..
the Qoteeo was or was not guilty of the high evil.n
alleged; but whether or ant the highest serbprt
the state should be deprived of thus' Fight!
even in criminal circumstance., erre allowed ,
the meanest. A gross act of iijitance Lel
committed by leaving the Queea's name out of
Liturgy, the sense of which could never he &a,.
away. A 1101 had
had been brought loin anotine
Moore before trial, which was • most diogracet.)
and unjust way of proceeding. In regard to 11,
espetnes of the Commission. he had reason to
kern that they were already not less that, 36.0ute.
In the first five month* 11,0001. had West (hash.
by the Commission. What would not 11.11(101.
in Italy ! Why, for bell that rum he would gather
evidence in Italy enough to blast die eepotattoo,
every innocent and respectable man or wools,'
England. And then. on such docimariots
could he filled by such evidence. to degrade to..
Queen of England fur degraded she hod been 10,
the manner in which she had been treated. 11,si:.
was nothing like justice in the case. There we.
talk about dealing justly and ininorlially. hot
where were the acts—where were the immune?* 4
justice in regard to the (,!urea I—/ Heise. thenr.)—
Ile thought that at least she ought to have a loot
of the witnesses who were to accuse her; but vireo
this had not been granted. He was sorry for Ile.
tinning the House; a muse of duty sod of jostiey
could show have Induced him to take up so much
time. He Isonsbty movetd-o
That an Address should be preseasvolo praying that tom
Majesty mkt be mainwady pleased so *Met Mist Ihr•••
should be laid before the Hustle by the wilier "Seen, ~.•
pies of say Coasmissina sir Commintions, instraeoio, w.
tuerechoiss, Sassed by de Crime' since the year 1111414 1.•
inquire tato the cuadiset of her Majesty dm laperrowte.
they with sees/ruts of all sums of mosey paid nut the
Treasury oft armee. of such Cooltuiselow, sad be where
militarily the disberseuteote were directed.
Lord CASTLERCAOH thought that the Muse
would feel the necessity for his refusing to be led
into airy general examiamtiou of the cousluet of *-
Miners and the private aff,ira of his Majestv's
Government. As to making Ministers reepoissiii!v
for the situation in which the House foetid itself
with respect to the King's Message, he would key..
it with the .House to determine ane fault could
be attributed to Ministers fur their conduct through.
out the whole proceedings*. He would simply apply
himself to the subject of the mut km. There could
be no disposition in Ministers to withhold from
the House any informant's which might be twee..
sary. Whatever might be the impressions of t!le
gallant General as to the condor( and rlisposittion
manifested by Ministers in the affair, there was really
no trammeion in which he had ever been at all
engaged on which he would have felt les+ relne-
lance•tutmlish the fullest accosente, us far as hi.
sense of duty would permit. Their conduct would
bear the light front first to last. Ittitrie thought
it a singular way to call for sections* when pro.
ceedinge were pending, and a debase on the King',"
Message was still on their hands coonected with the
subject of the papers required. Any tillage. more
contrary to the sense of Parliament, any thing snore
calculated to injure the purposes of jostle., could
net enter into the human iniud. lie felt it sere
that the enderstandiag of the gallant General
would shrink from his own motion if he came fairly
to consider it. He would move the previous goes-
hoot. He did not wish in wrap the Government
mystery ; it was prosier that the Howe should have
the informatims. But was it necessary to !hi-.
judgment before tiny knew what the case r
the evidence upon it ? He entreated the Iluts.e
to enter into the reasons which prevented biro froni
acquiescing in the motion. and its the mean time lie
would state some facts respecting the Cutrunii.iii,,.
Charges against the Queen had witched Ginerii-
ment from so massy quarters, her comfort Marl be-
come matter of such notoriety, without any tishitn;
for information on the part of Mower% that, ex-
cept they had shut their eyes snit ear., and deter--
tinned on • neglect of their duty, because th.re
was pant in tracing any chargers that would
implicate so high a character us that of the
Queen, and, therefore, their ler-liege acre to sleep
without allowing them to take airy steins fur asrer.
Winn% the truth or falsehood of such 'pistons.
Ministers would have bees guilty of ahninisturn;
their imperative duties. He was prepared to *Nile
the g.ropriety of the Commission. 110 160 be Iv,-
' milted that it was rather of a demi..,fficial
reeler. It war not appointed winter the Cleat
Seal, nor by any of the hornoil inurinsttnt+
of the Coosttiotion ; it was, on the ilditerary
*Magid 110 be mach better to ii..tiiuse an ru.
spiny 61st by this course, in order to exaniiiie if
toe charges were well founded or net. If Wt.
finical of the Commission was proper, au he oats pre..
pared so ergot had its conduct brew. gillhluit
Gearal had gives, nu Cfrifilable de.rril.usn ~1
Italian witnesses. But the whole of the evnlettee
did not come from Italy, although it bud been
termed a Milan Commission ; else information
had been gallwred hum different places. comprwitig
a great velem of Europe. As to the parties en-
gaged, it was thought beet owl safest to empire
men of legal mtildr, us such wens hest fitted in
separate the trunk f the fil-eliooJ. Theis elite-
ractera'were such as would bear the strictest
slid their cooduct Ihp:ugh:nit pet frilly Cuss-
With' with priuciples of helms, and ju-tice. Tht is
was r pouter necessity fur melting Illy ma-
tics which rolled in at every tide ; the character
of the Queen required it. Alluvion+ hint beton
wade to the Vice-Lhasicellor. He denied that uotv
imputatimi could real upon that officer for opunta-
merously acting in any CM %heir bit Glow lite ittarre-ta
or honour of his Sovereign cossceriwil. It perfectiy
cuswisted with the first principle+ of justice and
tumour to have taken on himself to act in has
character of officer to the Couvro. As to the
head of the Commiastuu. hr was a Gentleman
who had been taken on sufficieut retaidailletia
dation. He appealed to dome •ho were of
tier profession. if any man in it risotto, have hero
more propetly trusted with such a cutninission thou

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parts or the 'eniNotre. N. woad. enswe—v• 11 10. tone of . ihaiklible below tile 0""i" "torettl 14111 the tobje.ci right bon `that it was impossible tor Mini.ters lodes), that I' .
notice, that he slitimbl, en Muerte, itirsts'pr ft-, 'WI" I.i
" been iatenducest ender the deft! padre.' Rut there , were aware of the existence of this Cosisinnsinn.
day 'for Ose•Mr.sind teadiug of the 11.11. . lb.' . The Loss 4 L n plot tbequao:. 14111. 9 4111.414iti for the Illowse to detentsitsr. whit. They had in fact been in 'possession sir 44 Pelmet
that slynnld hr .11 fcknight. era
tit "Ise that the Heists. tI 1 . asimsnamed for kr yl. threats last. sewing a parttekdarediiedts could be Nat the Commissinso • year NM, and yet th.,
would not now undertake to my. but if delis), was ote *lnch their 10: . hips divided. when there up. comprised under the first. •Had there been no no- h..d ',imitated 110 proceedings tilt Slow• lie pn.
isuemsomi-his WOO* MMa. an diuuday why it was. peered— lice but the first. there could hive been ins gees- treated the Nob!? Lord not to attribute the D..
In. He therefore moved anti "their Lordships C"^"141• ••• • • • ••sraM-0-4` '- " -1"-'.-- - 11456 et avow mitt of introducteg the lost 'grimy trend ferliwg 004 espres:ww-airOats -potshot o,
Noa•Ceatents ...loot t t.l . Ist, ; •oeo. other motion. eitht•r for altering or suspending the this quest:oat to idle closnosir,.ond factious .11..
should he sumrtioned for that day.
... __.. measures already instituted. Bet the lest notice content; it was a derp-rentrd. fretinit wh:thi,„.
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