The National Register.
London, England, 1819-12-19 00:00:00

MOUSE OF COMMON&

MONDAY. DEC. 13.
BREACH OF PHIVLLEGE.
Mr. COURTENCif moved the Order of the Day Aar
the culling of Mr. Stodart bottle Bar.
Mr. ELLICI; sail, be would save the trouble of the
Honer, by stating, that John Cam Hoblionse, a friend of
his, was the author of the pamphlet, part of which hail
been romplained of; that gentleman, he was instructed to
say, would readily attend the House.
Mr. COLTRTENAY thought the printer ought to be

Robyn StoJo was then The pamphlet having
been Moran to him, he inhl he publkhed it, anti added,
that it was written by John Cam Hohliouhe.

Mr. cotativk Y then tontrt-.1, that the printer:be
thaeharged, and tact .t.an Cain liuldsuuse do attend tu-
IlinarOVl.

Mr. ELLIcr. said, Mr. IL was 0,11 of town, on account
of the Lidtspii ifiou of his father but lie would *until
o.
1111 l now, if legwted.
Mr. 'TIERNEY asked, for what purpose was Mr. Hob-
house in attend? (Neer, hear.)
The SPEAKER observed, that the author was ascer-
tained. there was no occasion to order the attendance of
the particular individual; it was not essential to any ulte-
✓ior proceeding that might lie contemplated.
Mr. LOU KTENA Y again rose, and proceeded to read
from a report en their privileges, that those ptivileges
were part of the I.tw of Parliament, that the law I/1 Par•
fitment WWI part of the law of the Lind, and that it was
essential to 'tippers them as the fundamental protection
act Pai 1 unrnt and the People. Ile therefore tell warranted
in par • ' 7 this coarse. lie deemed it more correct than
thae of a pcosecntion by the homey-Gems:sal. It was
nut 4 doubtful question, it was a contempt of the House ;
and lie therefore thoeslit that the House ought to louvred
to commitment for sncli contempt. He could make allow
asters tor irritated ft clings, or hasty prodoctiosis; he
could make apotottics for the crude pioductious of the
daily Journalist, but lie Timid not oil( such e%ruse fer-
tile it, liberate slander and 10141 cont. -il in this pant-
Ode,. He roue:R.lrd with moving, that ,be pamphlet
runLtincd a scandalous libel on die noose, and that ua it
was ralrelatcgl to .0114ine the runiiie ho sell of violence
attains, the Legislature, and particularly this House, and
was their fore a high bras- lief the privilege and constitu-
tion of this House.

lire trralution !sting put, the ayes were loud, Aral Sir
F. Burdett said " Nu!" its a distinct tutic.—Mutiusi
ugra,:d

wive, Tat Mr. Ilubhoute be committed to Ncwgatc for
sada oftener.

Mr. ELLICE observed, that feeling what WWI likely
td be the rebult, nib, baring got,t friettd•lstp fur t Mr.
Hqbllloll-V, IC 114,1 bkliiiCti the italeritte,:tale step it) be
t•kett,a, hr 114dIrptlitti it..tt deers wii• no pi.ter to Jr.
li. eX4.:I pt in a rocisu wIGI it convirted

M►. observed, th.it Ibe fir.t step must be to
order Kr. H. to be token into the custody cal the nerjeaut
at Arms, ihra. own officer.
Ttie SPEAKER sant, that there tome instances *lsere
the order had been enforced as moved; and bis warrant*

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would be, first to take Mr. H. Ist° custody, then to cons,'
that individual to Newest*.
Mr. Alderman WOOD lamented to say that the state
of the primes was inch a► to pi eclude the idea of sending
an inilividnet of Mr. H's reap. ekbility there I but at the
tame lime there were means of making better srrangc-
menus within what was celled Newaine. (Hear.)
Sir V. IfiIIYIRDETT said, tliit WAS a very hard cage
against Mr. Hulihunve. He would not di fend gross lan.
gate; but he denied that it was suceentible of ttle
inference charged that of isciting tim exercise of lbw°
force.

Lord CRSTLEREAGH rose to order—the question of
libel had liter disposed of.
Mr. BROUGHAM agreed in this, but sal& A e whole
question might be reviened.
Sir F. BURDEIT replied, that lie certainly had in•
tended to go into the yeestion of libel, but he was to
plead in mitigation it seenscd. He should refer to the
Atoning; Post.
_ _

Mr. -WYNNE rose to order. lie was against a NeWs.
paper being read there, besides, was one breach of
privilege to be urged as jaatitication of another
Sir P. uultDerr knew nut wbere he bad been dis-
orderly. He darted that there was any breach of pre.
volege—it wa• only constructively so. He must refer to
the:lll°,l,lll,g PM.

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Mr. tiIiOUGHIAM defended the Hon. Rarooet, and
was about to show what had twin done with impunity.
If newspapers were nut to be read, why were pamphlets!
k Hear.)—Ths Hun. Member Tea pages of this pamphlet,
brit embeds gut up then and theilliMed " order, order,
dowse with your pamphlets.
The aPEAKi.R ouserverl, that the qnestion of libel was
di•pused sof, but it wits open to weak m ratrunation, and
then refer to other 11141 tkil. lie certainly remold not see
what distinction there could be between pamphlets and
newspaper Hear, hear 9-11utaer worse matters wet*,
introduced iu ilins'iation of the case, and then proved
really to be inure severe' Members were hound to prefer
complaints. He hoped Members would not make an
injudicious use of the freedom of debate and the prier.
lilies extruded to them.
Sir V. liteltDErl said he should 1110%, abandon that
course which lie bad intended to purists ; brit when the
question as to sending to Newgate came before the Hums
he should Mere trouble the Home.

Strastors were then ordered t• withdraw fur a division.
be numbers weri•:
Fur the motion.. ...... • • • •
Fur the amendment W.

Majority for the commitment to Srwgate 133
The aliment 'vault accordittgly.
Mr. BARNL.I' I p.esesited a Petition from Rochester
Stiloiossa Meeting.
Mr. CALVERT piebtaled a Petition frosts Southwark
aaiu,t the Nrw Some atowutera ought to be
made fur the slit•ile.p.rn tot troth. all who complatettl
ought nut to lie ceded Ka.lirel Row luers.
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sor It. It ILAON sea, this Pc tanai mooned the atten-
Ilian tit the Hons He trit•ted the 11111 would not pals.
Hr might nut again addrr ss the House dui Inc the person
census& ; but whatever 'nigh( be liar penalty, he oeitild
honour ill lit• •.:aistat visits.
Dim wgP get euoxOlalioa mat the Omit.* *Melt errs
furlong woe., sir gait all cadie, that the inward y of the
pairs nuann we • gamins's. e against the duratiots of the
system..
Prtiro.oortierett to he MA the table.
The Misdemeanour Bill was read a C. it time, and or-
dered to be lra.l a socood time on %%
Lord CAs I LEXEAGH inured the third leading of
the Sedition. Meein,gi Pieberstioa Wt.
Lord A. HAMILL:ON suppoateo the Bill, which he
dill with pain and regret, aunt be dial so ma &rt.. The
~,.is ill P g had been maturitoi-ly 46110 rd to tit*
injury of others, and so as to uring the s;ht itself hate
quet.ta
Mr. J. WAIL lON proposed a clams UP elfeet of
authorising the attendance of reporters to 114.% ~qlCif at
public meetings, although strangers to the plus. their
sending in their "antes to. the magistrate 11 hour* It mie the'
meeting.
Lord CASTLEREAGH objected to the introdut tins of
reporters as al distinct body recognized in our legua ohm,
and binned w ith particular privileges. If stranger* to the
county, pariehoor district, the irdiabitauts of which respect-
ively c ttttt oused the used ing. he saw au reason for considcrim
them in any other light that. strangers by any clause as Eie
bill The magistrates may grant them fa. 11. t les of admission
if they saw no objections it was true as hail broil oat. d
lay WI II unotirmile Member, that the reports 01 the pro.
ceeoings 01 public snarl lugs an the public journal. had
annietimcz wariird the (vaulty of its dam;er ; hat it was at
the saute time not to be dewed. that the danger bad often
been increased lay alarming and fallacious reports. Ile was
unwilling to allow this elas• of OClrs4lll9 any rights by this rat
si Stich they d.d not previously pions.; and. thus t 0 give a
pretence for the mina t • of strangess.
Mr. TIERNEY said, that the number miaht be limited
to three or fuer, and 111118 It part of the Noble Lord's objer.
tins iSigki be obviated ; but the Noble Lotd objected 4 to
the peraelplr of admit •ng reporters: ultourtl cr. ( NO, WO
Lord I said, be net. h • Objected ts the
claim of a right. A magistrate, who raw no reasua for
excluding Them. night grant t lam facilities ofadmialon.
Mr. 'I'I PAN EY did not see how a niug.rtrate, %dhoti(
some authority in the act, could authorize the ante admire of
straisg,er..
Lord C A STL Lit EA GI I said, the magistrates rould intro-
duce their taut. talkers and asiustants, though strangers, and
if they clause they 'Dinh' bring its tarn reporters among them.
Mr. Alderman W :turn Numi said, the reasou which the
Noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh) had given Sro 11:r exclu-
sion of reporters, was, on his is
for tiara ladmioami. The Noble laird land seated, that fal-
lacious repeals h.al been propagated, and produced Olinger.
A. some tripoli. must always no ata wad, e null ,1 wit lie
better to :Moot I quarts from respectable newwaper., lobo
a ere mom of *Javelin.. airs had characters at stake, and
would hr careful to amid misrepre email 0000 thaa allow
statements to get halo Cifflgul lt.. medium of
Mr. J. P. Lit A S T.—The atagii rate cmad nail connive
at reporters wired strastAerr wire Or.k.ed tat
All. HIJm E cootes.ded, that by the lull I, lhr ruiwrler ray
ilding a wetting w amid incur the rm. It. 01 it Aylmer,
wor/tie mud tinen•oinne 0,1, altar I .otolti tie ithig•slir.ste
;nowt losu against the Laurin.
He (Mr. Horne) would propose a • iiviating the
objection td a elatuer under diet 11 sign, • :.,fll a right Its
*Read, while it at the mu* tame the revuriems