The National Register.
London, England, 1819-03-29 00:00:00

FRIDAY, MASCO 26.

STATE Or THr. ROYAL NAVY..—EarI nARNLET rose to
call the attention of the Noble Lords on the opposite side of the
House, toasubject which, hi his judgment, was of the highest
importance to the public. Inasmuch na he had heard of no in.
tended oppobition to a Motion lie should make for the production
sat Papers, it was not his desire to trespass long tiro!) the indul-
gence of the House. The subject to which he adverted was the
present State of the Navy. It would be generally admitted, that
the country could not beset) well prepared to meet danger, even
in tine of profound peace, and it would follow that the Naval
Establishment should be as complete as po-rible With regard
to the Army, the unremitted exertions of an illustrious person,
assisted by a Noble and gallant Duke, had placed the coun-ry in
a situation which enabled the public to look to a state of perfect
safety. The military part of the Naval Service had bet n pro-
perly attended to, but lie could not say so much for the principal
branch of the Naval service. Ile was ready to admit the Noble
Lord at the head of the Admiralty had done much to promote
the Navy, and that he had reduced the number of ships in cow.
1111.6i011 to the lowest standard; but Lord Darnley e4pressed
doubt whether the present state of the Naval Eshthli,lenent was
what it ought to be. In his view of the subject we bad too few
ships of the line, and not enough of men employed in ships now
in commission. The goat(' ships in 2arrictthr had not a sufficient
number of hands. In order to procure information upon the sub-
ject. the Noble Earl moved, them be laid before the House a list
of all ships and vessels in commission. specifying the number of
bands employed in each ; recohdly, for a return rtf the number
of ships building and repairing in the King's lards, specifying
tlxir tonnage, &c.
The motion fur papers was Put and carried.
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W I VDSOR ErrmiLiF 111 T t.t:.—The Earl of Li n-
Too t. rose to Fropose the second reading of the Windsor Ertel).
lantait Bill.

karltrlttl" diii not vise to oppose the prineiple of the Rill. on
the contrary, us it went to a reduction of public espenre he gave
it 116 entire approbation ; but, at the same time, it was the duty
of he House to take care the King's situation should not be made
a preteuce for onneressary xpenec. Ile hail long thought the
expenee of the Winsl'u: Establidunent hall exeeetled what it ought
to have been. The general principle of the Billom that round.
would have his acquiescence ; but he was dispo-ed to ask why
reduction was s a male at an earlier perital ; lie tejoiced that it
had b:en made at last. Whatever objection he might have
would be properly reserved for another stage of the Bill ; and he
should not hare said one (wool on this occasion had nut the Noble
Earl raleecod to the grant of i0,01:01. to the l)uke of York. No
tne deserved more of the country than that illustrious person,
Liu he was not a minto be detared from his duty by any con-
sideration. lie opposed that grant as totally unnecessary. The
duty imposed on Ina Royal Highness did not involve any
addi-
tiun:d expense, and cooling to rithament for tudool tor extra
e, ;wnses. was coming on false pretences. He deni-t1 that the
grant to the Quueu wnti tains:fluently it was impro-
per in Me present c.a.te. It vita. at: insult tot .c poople to ask it.
The Earl of Ilmtnowitv whether or not the grant of
110014. to the lYnke of York w.us an insult to the people, would
Lc 'mst considered at the proper stage of the bill ;he N' not
t t • '4011: desirous of ent nag into debate on this occarioa, but
w;• relict to the lit iteiple of die bill. which appeared to be ad-
DIM Al, is could not how t. c proposed allowance for the pro-
tection of 'out revered august sovereign could bt mine. d.
The Earl of e s ntiar.s: said lie wished to adt the Noble Earl
(Liverpool) whither the giant of 10.00u1. to er......acen was to
au 'Mona! expenees ?
Th: Earl to Itvit Pool. sail, it was granted, not to Ma-
j,-.:y as C.atos Pc, sc r, Litt made to enable her to tilezt extra

expences.

Earl trittiv. in exiilanation, observed. that he had never heard
in that 4 dilday of loyalty xi uninaaNsary as that made
by the Nob.: Earl opixti:e. The No{de fart appeared to ecn•
ruler him Omni v) as a lemon wh. was dssinri, of reducing
tire dignity of the Jltatmeii. whose trielanclio.y ,ituction every
man nova deeply deplore. tin tie contrary, he expressly scrotal,
that every provision might to he made to oipport the dignity of
Sov.•reig:t. At the same time lie w:o ❑..: uNlianiel to bay.
Out, all the issr.ait t4e virtues of tire SoverciAa in-pired. it
was incumbent on l'ariianient, in the present state of the canto y,
to prevent uunee.iwatry expense.
'Fbe Earl of DA It 14 r.ir said, a more uolonnabAl :afitek on his
Nubl; l•'ttcud, be never heard.

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JGISTER

The Lord Cita weet.Lott, who this day resumed his funo.
thou, ea Speaker, then put the question for the second reading of
the Bill, which was read a second. time, and committed for Mon-
day.—Adjourned to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
MONDAY, MARCH n.

WATER COMPANIES.-11r. M. A. TAYLOR presented the
Report of the C 1111 l mittee on the proposed Mary-le-bone Water
Company, in the event of the existing Companies not supplying
Water at reasonable rates. lie observed, that lie could not un-
dertake to bring in a Bill on the subject. as it would be deemed
pri..atc." adding, that but for the interference of the House
and the Government, he should base been fixed with the expell-
ees and fees of the Patirig Act, amounting to luoul. lie should
not, however, shrank frnist bringing for ward a Bill, if lie were
requested by all the parishes.
Petition referred to a Committee.

A new Writ was ordered for Boroughbridge, in the room of
Marmaduke Lawson. El., who, since his election. has accepted
the Stewardship tithe Chtltern Hundreds. (Mach lam,rhter.)
Mr. La mirrox presented a Petition, signal by all the most
respectable Booksellers of London and Westminster, praying the
repeal of the Copyright Act. Amongsx other kisses, Messrs.
Longo tan and Co. had suffered to the amount of I,ltool. in four
rears: Messrs. Murray and Co. 1.2001.; and were they to pub-
lish divers expensive works, their losses would berme!' gleaner.
They prayed for relief front such an injurious state of the Lew.
Read, and ord-red to lie on the table.

Mr. WIiNDIIAM iFIifILISON moved, as the
printed evidence MILS only juat ready for delivery, that the fur-
ther conaicler.ttion of the business be fixed tbr Monday next.—
Ordered.

Mr. A. Wright, before nutting the 24 reading of the Pearyn
Election Bill, observed, that in his opinion, after the evidence ad-
duced, the House was bound to do something to vindicate its own
honour; and he therefore moved that the Attorney General be
instructed to prosecute Henry Swain, Esq. for Bribery.
Agreed to.
Tne Royal Windsor Establishment Bill was read a third time
and passed without a division. the House being very thin, parti-
cularly the Opposition Benches.
In a Committee of supply several Grants were moved;
amongst the rest tio,nuol. towards completing the Penitentiary
(300,000 L it being stated), Living been already granted and
expended on the building.
Mr. Alderman AVoon complained of the expense and system,
obs.rving. that • would not be expected there should be. for
instance, a steam engine to grind corn, in an establishment
where labour for the prisoners was so much wanted. (Hear.)
Grant agreed to, as was one for 21,0001. fur the expenses of
the Establishment for a year.
The third reading of the Trial by Battle Bill was opposed by
Sir It. %Vilson, who did not disapprove of its principle. The
House divided—For the third reading 64, against it 2; namely,
Alderman Wood, and Sir F. Burdett. Teller, Sir B. Wilson.
The renaataing Orders being disposed of.the House adjourned.
TUF.SDAY MAUCH 23. _ .

EXCHEQUER BALANCES.—.Mr. MABERLEY gave notice,
that on this day se'uniglit he should move for the Cm respondence
between the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Bank relative
to Exchequer Balances.
Mr.. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition from Minufac-
turas in London, for an equalization of the duty on Coals ; and
another from Manufacturers, numerously signed, for the repeal
of Coal Duties ahng titer.
Mr. BROITGDAM presented a Petition from two persons (Wil-
liams anti Blake) in New South Wales, complaining of the con-
duct of Governor klacquarrie. He had satisfied himself, on
enquiry, that the Petitioners were not likely wilfully to mislead
the House; at the same time, he telt that the complaint origi-
nated more in the faults of the system than in the errors of the
man. Amonpt other things the Governor had raised 24,000/.
annually, and without tuthority trom the Crown; indeed he
questioned whether the Crown could give such a power, except
in the instance of a conquered country. This sum was raised by
various duties; amongst Olken, 11/6. per gallon on rum imported.
In imposing the duties, the Governor, however, grants exemp-
bona to his establishment and connections. There were also
turnpike duties, together with similar exemptions. The Peti-
tioner Blake next specifically complained of the Governor issuing
an order to the common lianginau to whip Blake, a free settler,
and three others. Blake received twenty.five lashes. The of. e was not criminal—it was a trespass ; they had merely
walked over a place which the Governor had chosen to tail in.
There was to trial, no examination of witnesses; the order
proceeded from the Governor's mere will alone. The other
Petitioner, Williams, had been a Government Printer at the
Cape of Good 1101 w; but he desired to go to New South
Wales, having the promise of a grant of land from Lord
Buthutst. lle was employed at New South Wales by George
I lowe, the Government Printer, but the Governor ordered Wil-
liams to he diseharged, on the
_ground of having signed a Petition
to the House of Cot iiiii one, winch was •' scandalous, rebellious,
and libellous." The Governor said there should be no " incen-
diaries" in the Colony. Now he submitted the necessity of
bending their attentions to the Government of New South Wales,
tnr more than one halt of its population consisted of free set-
tlers. The crisis had arrived, when pursuing a wrong course
ight be irretrievably fatal. It was the misfortune of the Peti-
tionets that Macquarrie continued Governor, and his conduct in
punishing the Petitioners for exercising the right of Petition,
was unjustifiable, and, till now, unpreeedented. Except they
petitioned, they had tie remedy ; fur actions would not now lie,
us Governor Nlacquari ie contiumd is his place.—Petitions read,
and ordered to be printed.
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 2/.
•

Mr. M. A. TAYLOR preamted the Report of the Committee
on the Mary•le-lion: Water Works Petitions; and leave was of
terwarils given to bring in a Hill to the Vestry of Mary-
le-bone Parish to ommact aim any Company to supply that
Parish with Water.

Lord 11. How•aan presented the Report of the Committee ap
pointed to try vie un•rits ~f the fiction Election Petition, which
txmlirincd the return of the sitting Members, and tteclared the
Petition against thtm not to be frivolous nor Vexatious.
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Petiti him (win Norwich and Northampton were presented
aping Cie Insolvent Ikbtors' Ac'. _

"Similar Petitions were presented from Cwteshead. Kirby Ste.
pher, Weatmorland. Itc.—lteterred to the Committee.
I.osnon CLtAttiY.—Sir .1. (ittAit.,.3t moved fur leave to
bring' in a Bill to amend an Act of Cie }unbent teign reapecting
certain incumbent, Mahe City of London.

Mr. I )r.rcr this motion Oran unprecedented character ;
if any course were pursued. toug:it not tie l'etitiun► to he retool
wilted ?

The q stated, that toe motion could rot said to be
preccdented. he in tact he was not aware of any similar cab.;
hatitigherote occurred.

Nir..titlerman Woon declared. that there wt. not the leas
evidence adduced in support of any deetee having ever exiatedt
As to the mehmcholy state of the Clergy, the incumbent of All-
hallow,. had .1501. noet-resident ; St. Peter's, rornhill. 631/. nun
resident ; several others had toiddar soma. and Were non-rtai.
dents; they petrol...l2ml LIN; due,; by Cus.tte,, n.cdving ;0/.

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or an/. a year. :ITos?if those Clerff had al-o livings thewhere.....;
Au Tottenham, Newington, Shrewsbury, ke. lie trusted that
the !louse would not encoutsge this atteuipt to
duties on the eitiarns.

~Ir.Ald,nnanWsurriarstr said, if the motion had taken an
itnproper turn it was owing to the manner in which the tumion
had Len Mtn:dm:ea by the lion. Bayonet. With regard to the
:tlitti-Lr of St. Andrew's, he had only just got the living from
the iiiii and now he turned round upon his bentk.ctors,
and prayed 'hat they might be additionally taxed. The Minister
of St. Peter's, Cornbill, atter warmly soliciting him and others
for votes, so goods thing was the living then deemed, had shwa
had the eons:knee to take another good tiring. The application
loathed front a combination of 53 individuals ; there were, how •
ever, 13 individuals who were too honest to sign any such seandr.-
loos petition. ( flack canoing and crap, of yue.tion.) fre
should never ur.necessarilv obtrude en the house, but, having ko
private feelings to gratify, as one of the Itepresentativea of the
Metropolis, he truitral he should always have firmness enough to
stand up for the Rights of those whom he represented. (llrar !I
Mr. l'kuxxt:Tx thought the way to preserve the orders
would be, to send back the Petition to a Committee ; for other-
wise the order requiring a Committee to say whether the allega-
tion; of the Petition were Comet.

After observations from Mr. C. Wynn and Mr. Brand, the
motion was agritd to without any division, though 6trungare
were ordered to wid.draw.

MALT DUTY.—Mr. G. Lamb aced w:tether it WAS the in.
tention of Government to impose any additional duty on Malt ?
The Citaxcri.i.on or THE Excimeirrn replied, that he
had no intention .0 impose any additional duty on any article
this Session ; and he added, u we understood him, that he would
not, however, pledge himsolf not to bring forward any measures
of regulation.
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The Game I.aws' Bill was committed pro.lbrma, Mr. BL%ND
stating. that he should move it 4 recommitment alter Blister.
The Bill could in die mean time be circulated through a Coot

Report further consideration Apnl :W.—Adjourned.
TIMRSDAY, MAIICH f 3.
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Sir J. GRAHAM brulight 11i; 111 e BM 10 In/Ike better pro.
vision for !be City of London Clergy. Head a first lime.

The Bill for the better Paving and Lighting of Lour
lane, Bermondsey, was read a 3d time and passed.
l'uoN La wa.—Mr. S. BM.RNe moved fur leave to bring
in a Bill to amend the Poor Laws as far as regard Lite
rights of settlement. In rile early provisions set:girding
those rights, it was &mai there were great restraints upon
the free circulation of ilhour ; and to ►emedy such evil, the
granting of Certificates, acc. was adopted. This also was
fonud to be most inconvenient. He proposed ro male
the right of settlement rest on re►idence alone ; this er-
r:filament would have the effect of thing individuals in
the parishes where they had long dwelt and worked. As
to the period named, 'Mee years, it bad received the ap-
probation of Dr. Burn, Mi. ‘Viiiibread,acc. (War, hear.)
He concluded with moving for leave to bring in a Bill to
amend the law regarding of the rights of vellllvinent.
Mr. A. WHIG HT trusted that the Hon. Mover would at-
low this Bill to pass very delibe►ately throne' all its stages.
The proposed improvenieuts would increase litigation and
vexation•, would impose peat hardships on particular
places, and would lutes fere with the existing at rasigemeats
of society. . _

Mr. Cinviso approved the proposed period of settle-
ment, deeming it Joel that such midi:nee ought to site
right to relief.

Mr. WtbTERN approved the Bill.
Alter übservotionv from other Members, leave was giveit
to hilt,* ill the Bill.

Mr. S. Bounst next obtained leave to bring in a Bill
(after some remarks from N. Calvert, &c.) to prevent the
misapplication of tl.e Pour's Kates.

COURTLNAIf afterwards obtained leave to bring
in two Billc—first, for rate farther encouragement and 1.10-
Welkin of Friendly Societies ; secondly, fur the emahlish-
went of Parochial ISenefit Societies.

Dr. PHILLI,ron I podtpuneil his motion regarding the
gradual tepe.ll ul the Salt Duties till April
Adjourned.

FRIDAY. MARCH 26.

NEW SOUTH WALE;::),11:1111;27 ETT stated, that it was
unnecessary for him to bring forward his Motinn, to reter the
suite of New South Wales to the Jail Committee, as, he was
happy to communicate, the Comniittee had determined to take
that subject into their immediate consideration.—l'attial circum
stances had prevented them from proceeding with the enquiry to-
day—on Monday it would be begun.
IMEACIII us• PRIVILEGE.—Lord ALTPIORP complained of
a breach of privilege in the arrest of Wan. 4tvnton, a private in
the Guards, he having been arrested by a Serjelnt while in the
lobby of the llouse, after having attended the Worcester Election
Committee, pursuant to the orders of the House. The Commit-
tee took no notice of this arrest (it being far absence from parade)
as it was thought, when the cause of the absence came to be as-
certained, that nothing more would be done ; but since then the
man had been subjected to trial by Court Martial. (Hear, I ear,.
hear.) What was the t ntence he knew not, but of all brei e lea
of privil,ge, one cowiiiizted by the military was the most
gerous... _

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The Ilon. 11. TOWNSEND said, the man bel.aved very ill,
liming run away after being taken into custody. •
I.ord AI.TII OK I' only complained of the breach of privilege.
Mr. Tierney observed, that whether the man aas punished or
sentenced, or not, waa no question ; the fact of an urrest in the
lobby, while obeying the ()Niers of the !louse, was b..) tint! doubt.

Sir JAME% :LIACniTOSH asserted, that a more 14,TIOUS breach
of; rivilege than the one just detailed to them could not be com-
mittal, especially as it originated with a military officer. If. du-
ring the eoutse of a Isar evainailation, a party had been commit-
ted to tic custody of the Sergeant at Arms, for using threatening
language to u witness who had baen examined at the bar of that
boas--a punishment whicil he, fur one, did not think dispropor-
tionate to the offense whili had rendered it nee eltary ; surely
tiny ought to exercise equal severity towards s military man who
had been guilty of so gross and violent an outrage as that Lunn'
which they were then debating. ( liesr.) Ile had never btfure
heard such unwitishictury and extraordinary argument • as throe
which the Judge Advocate had just advanced; he had heard them
with surpriza not unmingled with indignation. The learned gel:-
than= hail intimated, t 1 an ignorance of the privilege's of Cie
hottae was to be considered to a sufficient excuse for the breach of
them. Ignorance might, indeed, be pleaded in extenuatiod,
when the uttimding party was brought to the bar; but could nut,
and ought not to be considered as an excuse for his conduct,
((war.) If they admitted such &Justification at the present time,
they might as well extend it to all invasions which the military
officers of the Crown hereafter thick it convenient it midis
upon their rights and privileges. lieweryinly thought that the
Sergaunt ought to be brought to the bar of the house, and ilea his
coact oupit to be investigated closely. (Hie breach of Privi-
lege had been committed in the arrest of the soldier, under Cie
etrcuanu.w,Ys witicit had been de crilml to theta; =gums .a.ll

MARCH 28.

al,o been committed in brining the subsequent charge of an at-
bantited escape again-t him:before a court-inertial file escape,
or rather the pretended escape. eras a part of Stynton's cinitluit,
whieh the circumstances under which he had been arrested ten-
th ad perfectly just& able. To whatever other resolutions the
lime* might come. lie thought that they weld not rest satisfied
without a copy, at lean of toe charge pa cferrAi against Styntun
Bing admitted to their notice-
Mr. BECKETT observed, that the man had desired to be tried
By a Court Martial.
Mr. BENNETT—'• Yes. no doubt. because. possibly. the man
found that he was about to be tituiLlied without any trial by
t:oart Martial. (Hear.)
Lord ALTIIOItP moved. that the Serjeaut who arrested the
Soldier do attend at the bar finthwith. •
on the motion of Mr. Wynn, Win. Stinton, the privrie, was
also ordered to attend forthwith.
Mr. ItiositEry presented a petition front Norwich, against
the Insolvent I tebtare Act. Referted to the Con )))) ittee.
Sir H. PAIINEI.L moved the gil reading of the 31erai Road
Bill ; ou which a long debate took place.
Sir li PARNELL replial ; after which the Dill was read a
second time, but there were many dissentient voices.
BREACH OE PRIVILEGE.—Thc SP iatien communimted
that the Serjeaut was in custody; the private was on his may to
the lionise.
Lord ALTIIOII, moved, that John Hardy, the Serjcant, be
caned to the bar (tics!.)
John Hardy, Serjeant in the Horse Guards. stated that on
Saturday past lib came tin %Von Stinted, by order of the Serjeant
Major. Ile found him at the bottom of the Lobby steps. He
a ked Stinton whether be was dace with. He asked one of the
Gentleman (of tie ('ommittee) whether he was done with?
Answer—Yes. He then toot Stinton into Custody. and carried
him to the Barracks for absenting himself from dethulters dill]
en the Stith inst. for running away from Serj-ant Harvey, and fur
snaking away w:th a piece of cloth. Stinton had since been
tried by a Court Martial for those offences. lie was directed to
fiend Stanton where he could ; he did not know that Stinton was
aretading the House on summons. The cloth was missed on the
day of the arrest. Witness was not aware that the man was
attendir.g the House. The man, on being arrested, said he could
not attend drill because he war obliged to be at the House by
half past eight; that absence wr.s part of the charge before the
( oort M:irtiaL
Witness ordered to withdraw.
Lord ALTI-106tP said, the breach bad been evtablished, for the
man was tried for the absence when the S)nt.ker's war.mnt was
the justification, and lie therefore thought the minutes ought to
be laid before the House.
Seneant-Major Sutton examined.—lle stated. that the man
refused to state the cause of his absence before the Adjutant; and
afterward.s although found guilty on the Conn-Nlaitial, on its
being learned that he had been obeying the orders of the House,
lie was in fact subject-al to no punishment.—(hear.)
Lord ALTIIORP said. it was pretty evident there had been no
intention to commit a Breach of Privilege; but lie thought it
was desirable that the business should he thoroughly inee.tigated,
and that therefore they ought to have the minutes of the Court-
Martial.
Lord Palmerston thought the minutes of the charges and sen-
tences would be sufficient.
The gallery was cleared for a division, but none took place;
arid we understood that Lord A.'s motion was negatited.
The remaining Orders being disposed of, the House adjourned
to Monday.