The Sun.
London, England, 1855-05-23 00:00:00

IRISH AND SCOTCH BANKS.

The returns of circulation of the Irish and Scotch
banks for the four weeks ending the 14th of April last,
when added together, give the following as the average
weekly circulation of these banks during the past month,

viz. :.--
Average circulation of the Iriph banks ..........•• 26,462,458
Average circulation of the Scotch banks 3,742,A0

Average circulation during past month ...£10,205,48
On comparing the above with the fixed issues of the
several banks, as given in the Banking Almanac, the
following appears to be the state of the circulation
:--
The Irish banks are above their fixed issue
The Scotch banks are above their fixed issue 165°75:97631

Total above the fixed issue X763,695
The amounts of gold and silver held at the head offices
of the several hanks during the past month have been as
follows :

-Gold and silver held by the Irish banks .........£2,000,742
Gold and silver held by the Scotch bank 5......... 1,607,183

Total of gold and silver held £3,007,925
The above statements complete the returns of the cir-
culation in England, Scotland, and Ireland for the month
ending the 14th of April.
These returns show an increase of 944,807/. in the
circulation of notes in England, and an increase of
681,061/. in the circulation
of the United Kingdom,
when compared with the month ending the 17th of
March, 1854 ; and, as compared with the month ending
the 15th of April, 1854, the above returns showtes
in
decrease of 2,264,4901. in the circulation of
of the United Kingdom.
by the Bank of Eng.
England, and a decrease of 2,534,601/, in the circulationi
The average stock of bullion held
month ending the
14th of April was 15,057,1611., being
the previous month ; and
as compared with
Eng-
land in both departments during.,theah
increase
of
1,542,8551.,
au increase of 874,5431.
period last year. .
held by the Sco and tch a Irish banks
The stock of specie
ending
the 14th of April was
when compared with the earns
during the month
3,607,9251., being decrease of 105,959/. as compared
:eturn, and an increase of 86,580 E
when compared w
with the previous return, t
ho
corresponding period last year

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT
e Sir 11 HALL moved to sthike it ont in_ order, to intro- i resolution tbat the house should adjourn for the recess tinue to hold the trust WhiC4 has been committed into cause Of, the Parliamentary or other influence of their tend to eradicate or materially diminitsh the evils of which (
i --aud for aa unusually long period - without some their halide, they need not be under any alarm, nem connexions. all were-aware, and which all at least professed to de- '
es. • duce into the bill certain portions of Hobhouse s Act.
Agreed to. ' means being taken by which the Public may be re. need the country be under any alarm, that any peace - Mr. WISE expressed his satisfaction at the ventila. plore. Since he entered the house that night a letter f
HOUSE OF LORDS-OCESTERDAY.) aeitnated-by which we may obtain some mwe clear will ae ma-le which will not be honourable to the natien, tion which the question had inceived, and stated his' in- had been put_ into his hands, which afforded a small •
Clauses up to 40 were agreedsto after a short dirus-
• ess w. done ..a ve .
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od busine as • iii fair r i sed
, and explicit idea 'of the actual position of the country and wbioh- will not be calculated to accomplish these oh- . tention to withdraw the motion. proof of how things were still carried on. That letter • A rro .
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The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack sion. :
On clause 40, providing for the inspection of. books by ! with reeard to the question of peace or war than we at i jects far the attainment of which we have entered upon Mr.H.BAILIE. however, objected to the withdrawal was written at the la-M, general election by a person of fbis day wee-- '
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at five o'clock. deed laA Tuesday s es.
AMENDMENT OF THE CRIMINAL LAW. ratepayers, present possess. (Cheers.) I said that this was a ques- I the prewsnt contest. It is not from those who sit upon of the motion, and the house then divided, when there influenoelo an elector, and it ran in these terms :-" 1 real
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY suggested that owners of time which principally affected the honour and also the these b"enchee that the acceptance of ignominious terms - were- . peas uualtere,d. eyi .
In reply to Lord BROUGHAM, hould have th • . If you do not do that corn -I.s per qr. ses eer qr.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that a bill was property, as well as ratepayers, s e right of ' reputation of the house. The house will perhaps recol- of peace shall proceed. I trust that no man in this For the motion ll2 , deslre you to vote for Mr. --.
• uuderstaud you are' doubtful which way to vote, and I
inspection ; and, after a short discussion, the suggestion i lect that in 1853 there were, he was informed, negotia- country, however much he may wish for eace-and Against ... 57 you leave my faiin." (Radical cheere, and cries of ----
- 2 l. trade
' prepared in reference to the amendment of the criminal of the hon. baronet was adopted, and the clause was tions of great moment then taking place, on the issue of Heaven knows every reasonable man m p• h f
ust wis or an Majority —55 "Name" from the Conservatives.) No. he was not at . IPSWICH-MAY
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law, and hoped that it would be found on the table im- ordered to stand part of the bill. which the queation of war mainly depended. Under honourable peace-I trust, I repeat, that no man in this The announcement was received with loud cheers. liberty to give the name. (Oh, oh, aiid reeewed cries of A feir supply of wheat. The genera on
ted lower. .
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mediately after the Whitsuntide recess. Clauses up to 46 were agreed to, with a. few Verbal these circumstances, great and natural as was the curio- country *he calls himself an Emelt h d h h
a s man, an w o opes THE BALLOT. " Name.") But there was the original letter. It was was dull ; stili ptices can scarce y
' I be en°
full Is per quarter 164 i VaU .
Lord LYTT.FLTON said it would be desireble that amendments. sity of the country to know it) what positioo it really was not to be regal ded as a degraded outcast, would lend th not a copy that he held in his baud. (Cheers.) The a ready side tor all kinds at 9 ats.
w Mr. BERKELEY then rose to bring forward his an- s. . PER 4i as _,
all the measures relating to the amernlmeat of the crimie On clause 47 being prnposed, the object of which was placed in reference to a contingency so awful, and d - fh• t t f -
rea y sanction o. is name o ernes o peace such as the neht ' terms; which tee nobla lord (Sey moue) had used in epeak- Beans aud peas realised full pr ce .
a ito ul°
. nal law should be proceeded with without delay. to provide that all sewers except main sewers should be -as were many members of this. house, in the fulfilment bon, gentleman has just indicated. (Cheers ) b nual motion in favour of the •ballot. He said he had •
log, ot the retail dealers were, be thought, most offensive PER. QuaitrEa.l
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The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition corn- under the management of vestries arid district boards, unquesConably of their duty, to obtain information from DIPLOMATIC ESTABLISHMENTS. been told that this was a disadvantageous time for it, -at keit as offensive as the terms in which the hon. Wheat, red (01d)... 74s to 7 1
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plainino of the loss of fees by the premature closing of a
Sir B. HALL said, that this was one of the most im- Government durine the ses;ien of 1853 on that important ' -bile men't3 tubule were suffering urder a series of victo- member ter Brasted was said_ til have spoken of the axes- Ditto (newe
Mr. WISE then moie to move the following resolu- 'vs tail Ditto, white (new) L.
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btreal erreinele. portant clauses in the bill. It had been introduced question-the house will recollect that it was total] iin- Pus dleasters. But never was it more iinportant to have 1 tocraey. For hie pet, he did not believe that •the re
Ditto (old.)- -s to --spitto (will 2_,_ .. . oe,. ,to
The Bishop of CHICHESTER .presented a similar after great consideration, and he should refrain from possible to obtain an opportunity to discuss •,,th y
at inepor. tien :-" That it is the opinion of this house that the ni • deatees of this country were, as a class, this cerrupt body teseFlour, per seem ...
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petition. saying one word on the subject until he had heard the taut question, because on all occesions those wee were opinidn of our diPlotnatic establishnients, recom- ,l. he people's cheice in Parliament than at present. . -
nen of t .
which the noble !reel repreeented thein to e. , ut it
AVERAWIB Fon Tliii WEER ENDING
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. The Earl of HARDWICKE presented a petition in opinions of hon. members. anxious to obtain information and to invite the opinion mended in the report 'of the select committee of (Hear, hear.) And this ceuld not be under tee present they were, then all he could say was, that that consti-
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fay mr of closing public houses on Sunday!. Viscount EBRINGTON believed tbat the clause, if of the house on these important circumstances were eystem. To those who hated refOrm, the war,hael great tuted an additional reaeon fm adepting the ballot, which t Wheat
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. The Earl of WICKLOW' asked whether it was n carried, would be reductive of evil rather than good. informed that important neeotiati ins -
e . t ware going
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1850 oil • 1 1 •
ma sa amen should be carried •into'effect." '
charms as a seasonable relief.. But with sincere reformers would very much remove frOm them the templation of Oats
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- tended, after the proceedings of the previous evening, to (Hear.) It wouldphave the effect, in the first instance, on, and that remarks male in taie house might have a The honeumble member said that the first proposition ' '
which the committee in' question had made was that Peas
Bears
-prevent peers leaving the house after a division had been of an enormous increise of the staff of officers, and there- very injurious effeCt on the course of our diplomacy. tnliiiee:nismanagement of the war created a stronger argu-
tin favour of referm. (Hear.) Tire barmier:s dams- yielding to corrupt itilluences. (Hear.)
Barley ..... , 139 ti .
• called I by considerably increase the rate of taxation. He area%) The house will recollect in what the forbearance the missions at Paris and Conetantinople ehould Mr. BENTINCK thought the hon. gentleman ought
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A conversation here took place, in the course of which thought the only course to be adopted, with any effect, of the who had written the lettim be hail quoted betore he van-
to have been in a'position to give the indrne dt the party, •
miLL-31Ay 22. ' ev ef
Lord REDESDALE said the practice ot the house House of Commons ended. There was silence be made first-class missions. He deemed it to be ex. . ters, and failures which had occurred in our various de-
would be to place the direction of the drainage undtr during the whole of that session, notwithstanding the tremely desirable that we should have an ambassador at ' pammene3 had risen first from the Government haying t - • • •
ured to reaa it to toe house-(ebeerm- ecause, As t le
was to have the doors locked during a dishision. The the central boerd. anxiety of the country, and the result was that we drifted. Paris, inaamuch as it wag necessary that our representa- become hereditary in a fevr great families. (Hear, hear.) matter at present stood, they were left in doubt whether Englieh wheat. Foreign moderete. igere it
Gore
standing orders were imperative on the. subject statine
', , - Lord R. GROSVENOR considered that if the house into scar. (Hear.) The country faund iteelf engaged in tive at that court should have interviews with the Som. .
e- There were changes of Ministries but not of systems. the writer was one of the " bigotted Tories" who had Is below last Tuesday. 1 , genre,
Lli n led
that no peer should, after h q
tee uestion was puv, leave r , m
reiecteu tee proposition of the hen. baronet, and placed a vast and perilou3 war without the satisfaction of Lay- reign of that country-a sovereign who at the preeent , . been described by the hon. member for Bristol, or °ire value of all spring c
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the house until the votes had been taken, or that the , One set of aristocrats • went out ... L ,
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the management of the sewers in the hands of a central lug a clear idea of the object lor which we entered into,.. moment took a great iitterest in our affairs. But, how- . ' of the pure Liberals who eat on the other Fide of the 's end Dari ls to es. '
: i., the week. Cakes ea:i e
house had proceeded with some other business, dearer, fully ls to 2s dunue 0.
board, the worst re3ults would follow. war, and a humiliated and dePressed feeling Prevailed •ever sorry he Might be to uudermine exieting arrange. , " gaudentes" came in. (Laughter.), Ono set said when
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house. (Czteers and lau Alt ) T' e noble lerd . ten s •
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EARL GREY'S RESOLUTIONS ON THE Sir W. CLAY was of opinion there was but one among the people, that their representatives had never ments in connection with our. embassy at Paris, he must we come in then you shall see-what you shall see !
tile member for Totties had talked of the difficulty bones quotations rose t h .to ,
VIENNA CONFERENCES. . s sI . , end black ; tot
• course to be Pursued, that of supporting the measure, ma,de a. single effert to obtain the-necessary information. call the attention of the lic'etie to eur preeent expendi. (Laughter.) Then, when-they came in, what did we see ?
of inducing voters to go to the poll, and the hon. mein- Tileat, Englis ,
h red 78 to 79ireas, gre-' --- . sea...
Lord LYNDHURST wished to ask the noble earl and leaving the manaeement of these sewers under the (Hear.) I may say that years have really passed. We ture in connection with. that mission. Our embassy at Jobbery, red tape, and routine. (Hear, and laughter.)
ber for Beverley had ascribed that difficulty to a
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b- • ' I The market Was well att,ehnedeci(l)l,danwilebajulter
ini_ j a _
ill
tto white
opposite (Earl Grey) what course he meant to pursue direction of the bon haronet. system of intimidation wbich prevented them giving • da • Ditto PetersTgar eh" . 0
find now that we are involved in a struegle of the largest the court of 11:narptnhoewezetnstehge
or lioLuasbeot:rtex?.:,:m The people were fully alive to the atrocities of the eye-
with respect to the motion which stood in his name for Mr. H. BARINq complained of powers being given character. We find, at the same time, that we have Per annum,. their votes. He was satisfied that if the matter were in- berg Tee eitostmastilol- e.'?' "jr:sb°thue6
Dantzie an wonms-
Friday neat ; whether he meant to deviate from the by this clause to the district boards that should be vested been engaged for a long time in negotiations for peace, 1,000/. a year itr addition• The hotel in which our am- select her advisers from a few great families, because
tern. The cause was apparent. The Queen could only
quired into it would be found that intimidetion had not Pomeranianandllann I peel .. .. ;..e. ..... a
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course vehich he had intended to pursue, in conse- only in the metropolitan board. • We find these negotiations cetried on bY the same clia- bassader resided in Paris hail cost originally 30,00 a,
and we hail since spent upon it an amount which made they monopolised place and power ; and tittle not only
the effect of preventing voters recording their votes. burgh
100.
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quence of the scene of the Previous night, of which he me. H. WILLYAMS supported the views of the noble raetere, in the same city, and under the influence and in- Danish,Holstein, and 1 tOl/1
Mr. P. O'BIZIEN reminded the house, in•considering eod ,al
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believed the noble earl was a spectator ? lord (Lord Ebrington), who, he hoped, would divide the spiration of the same Court. (Hear.) The result, Of the the Ministers of the Crown, but the leaders of our fleets
a total' of 87,000/. Our embassy at Constantieople was and armies were chosen, net for merit or ability, but
this question with r ference to Ireland, that they must Friesland GB to 11,1 1111/15. , g
Earl GREY said he most undoubtedly was a spectator committee on the question. negotiations of 1853 covered the whole of that session. also attended with an enermous amount of expenditure. beeause they belonged to the " great families," who
ry there was a compu sory
not foreet that in till um t i ' , • fi tor. •• .i 0 y
28 to 3e,Ditto ne
r. et Os Ud• poi 06
Eoglish
of the scene to which the noble and learned lord had ad- eeMe. LABOUCHERE preferred the scheme proposed It muzz!es the expression of opinion in this house, and The embamsy cost 10,000/. per annum, and our diplo. were able to rnake or mar a ministry. (Hear, hear.) a . . '
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system of reeistration and that tac voter cou no onger Oats,
Ditto Danish
verted. He could not say he was an edified spectator, by the President of the Board of Health to that sug- lowers its conduct and character. The result of that matic and consular establishments altogether about Those great families had desperate fights for place, . . e r .
, escape being placed on the register. Ditto Friesland
(Laughter.) He could only further say that he was gested by Lord Ebrington. It would have been more silence was not that we assisted her Majesty's Govern- 40,0001. a year, besides 12,000/. which had been ex. but on all points connected with their monopoly of , _ . _
beentParlearu d•f •R •
Mr. IoLAND stud he could read a letter an 1 neces- Ditto ussian :3.ala:att.
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riot at present aware of any sufficient reason for post- satisfactory to him had the districts been fewer in inent in their efforts to secure peace, for war was the Pended last year for the purpose of erecting a new build- power they were united as one man. (Laughter.) H Russian and Odessa
2this ttoo e3Bo,:inarso.ec.l,:ens...,:ot assloesi i t'0,.,,:5,
poniug the motion of Which he bad given notice. If, consequence. The character of the house was lowered,
number.
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any reason could be shown why he ought not to bring Sir B. HALL said the division of the metropolis into and the object of the Government was not obtained. mans
;for%oemeolluan9styry!ita there were only places . enough, Whigs and Tories vary name the writer, which would sl,iow t'llat•la= Barley, malting
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it forward he would be prepared to consider it. - districts had been fully considered: He had to deal The consequence of the forbearance of the house was, more extraordinary amoent of expenditure than was in. fraternising with politica,' rats. (Great laughter.) Peo- in his hand was foul a member of that house t..
curred in connection with the hotel at Paris. In 1841 it P
would become a " hanpy family" - political cats in Ireland did coerce their tenants. rho lettero
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The Earl of DERBY said he -did not mean to sug- with an area divided into every conceivable form and that we drifted into what I must cell a disastrous war.
gest any course to the noble earl; but, he had understood '.3 ape, an ap a eg , and t e estunate le were sick of this system-sick of sorry gmerals, ant in Sligo, and it iiiformed him that. the waiter always
h dda t new 1 islaiion as far as- ossible to Now it appears to me that there is a great probability had unfortunatelet been burned down h ' selected from the "Red Book," and IVlinisters from regretted when he had cause to coinplain of his tenents,
fh•d • • P f h th t. t. t'll d• -• ' - - for ebnildin •h.l b lal it Burke's Peerage." There had been an inquiry, which but that the Roman Catholic prieets bad keen so active „seer. .
it. It was true that the whole o t e ramage ot e e nego ta tons s t procee mg, the same circumstances r git a• een at at 30,000/ , bet the total yesT. • a
that he postponed his motion in order that it might not forth and successful in severina tenants from them landlords COURSE OF EXCHANGE.- ...... so Jo
interfere with the ver ' d. ' h. h h d
y important iscussion wic a metropolis under one board had failed, and the question still being in existence, the same characters beiog em-
sent moment, to epwarde of 8G,650/. That sum had
expenditure-in connection with it amounted, at the pre- had concluded its labourn and was about to bring
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I ho did 1 t t .••••
Peas,- white and...............................ye1. 42 to 45,(Rye Meal mem. .
was, what boarde shc,uld be constituted afs most ployed, the same city being the scene of action-that if
been expected in the other house and in order that when isb ton er to confirm° his con- Ditto, three months .. 12 0,, Legtor • •"•
a report. But what was to prevent that inquiry from tbat he could not suppott t iose w 10 supper element= .. .. „ „11 183,4 Gieraltanr::
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desirable and the plan he suggested he had endeavoured ' the consequence of our forbearance was that we drifted been raised by an expenditure which had been incurred going the way of all inquiriesi? It might result in a him, and that he did net w g
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it came on tie might have the advantage of the prestige ' (" Name. ) Ihe Dame of the Antwt,rr,
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to make as useful for the purpose it was intended as pos- into a dieasteous war, the consequence of our prolonged Y
asa e o lugs w iich demanded revision, and into
ear After year, arid it was his opinion that it indicated
which would no doubt have accompanied the develop- ' He also held in his hand
sible Th lio f l• •1 f b I; • - t t f th. 'I "
e popu at n o the metropo is was two mil- or earance may e that we shall drift Into a peace- ' t with the petronage of "the great families" it writer was Mr. Ormsby Gore. , .
telrgefriephrt, and possibly in some measure ; but if it nection with the tenant.
ments in the debate elsewhere, as well as of the division „ ' • ' tell had been served on-a tenant since ilambargh ...1........ 13 8 , Naeles ..
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would fell. Lately there was a splendid instance of a uotice to qnit wh . ,
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which would have occurred, and he would suggest to ""s ad a Ilalf ' a
n •nd considering that popnlation was perhaps an Ignominious peace. (Hear, hear.) We which some inquiry should be made. Now, with refer- lis.ttitegrrif
bowel' his rent he was told Alfons ~ •• ........,... - rei.,,,ee'
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increasing, be did nnt think the number of boards pro- are in a few days to adjourn fir a period of relaxation, ence to the question of' having ministers or amble. getting rid of a "popular clamour"-how the "good the last election for Cevrinot , 0
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him that similar motives to those which induced him to ad been served 25 47% Lisbon .•
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postpone his motion till Friday should now lead him to posed would be found too many under .
the cir- of unusual duration at this time of the year, and under seders at ' foreign. courts, he must observe that he Lord Aberdeen" bad cried for chanee, :rid eveay mem- ha•l been paid for which the notic b . Brussels .............. 25 42% V.enice...
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cumstances. Each board would represent an a,ve- circumstances full of danger to the country. Rio Janciro•
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cOnsent to a further postponement. We knew of no g,ood reason why we should have anmae. her of his Government had his handkerchief to hie eyes He had alee been tom that, 500 nbtieee to quit had been
rage of from 60,000 to 80,000 inhabitants. If were told last Riga among the many ambi- sailers in preference to miehstere. Prussia was acknow- F,ankfort-ou Maine .• .. 119% ' Buenos ....,,o days sli, .
, Earl GREY said that in consenting as he had done what did it all a One to? A "Corruet Practices at Dec- ( Nesbitt.
weeping for the depravity of mankind. (Laughter.) But served in that County, signed by Lord Farnham and Mr. Boardeaux .. • ........ - i tyro.. •• ,• 13 ,
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he peeve the district boards the power of forming dratns goons deolaretions tint • were made taat the con- le lged 'to be universally successful in'. her diplomatic
herore to a PostPoneneent, be bad Dot been influenced b h ' ' e-. '' i V• c ' • ' ' ' roceeeinae d she had nee at/Thee:roars, but aest_cissa ti ins Thll," whieh would de nothin to-prevent brihery. Sir S. BIGNOLD said, allusion bad be-en made to the r:eilaa•• •• •• •• •••• -••12 40 Pna,V,P, oF stra!vc:'.; ,I, 107 if
e e must also give them pewer3 to carry them out, and erence at ientla. though it was closed, had. Lot abso- P . _ • ~ an
ministers. An embassy was admittedly productive of
oy any personal considerations. It was strotgly repre- these owers were not more arbitrary than those now Intedy ceased to exist, and mieht be re- oned at am• e The true remedy mai the ballot. The evi lance collected city which he represented, and that he merely wished to 'rrlaste•• •• ..... '••• • • • 1235'2,4 1 Foi;cign Goti iii 1-,,s . ,i 1 oli
Belated to him that those who took an interest in the by the Balla Society from variounhormighs in the king- etaeo, with reference to the epeestion3 •as to bribery and Vett:an'''. -••
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4.0',L ' rortee.ai Mee tr.tirsia..... ~p oa,
ureater expense than Was connected with a minister.
existinpg in the city of Lohdon, having studiously avoided ment's notice. It may happe'n that we°lPnay re-assemble , 1 , . . ‘ . .. , .
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There was about an embassy more of- firm tlnd more of
subject in the other house thought it would be disa.dvan- wenn siewed that since the passing of the Cotrupt 'ham intimidation, thee tae informatton whice the hon. mem- tainz .•
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ll 0 w 5 I
a(
L6idEdUiv[lai
jEne,Ttedit_Baps
inp,oyhrb:ottneldujn:m.
adding a,nything to them. From the various returns to hear that peace has beea obtained upen terms that New Pollan; •• • . I
tageoue to them if he brought it forward, and having Barcelona ~.......... - , , din ig.,., . ..•
made to him, be found there were 1,500 miles of streets may not be satisfactory to the people of this country. etiquette than it was necessary that 3 minister should ob- . tices at Elections Bid bribery and intimidation existed Ler for Bristol had relied on from Norwich was without
tile •• - ••- • • • - i N11V4.,
. understood that they were predetermined to introduce it, to as great an extent as ever. He had, on the laet oc- the slightest foundation. ,He had polled 3720 votes.
in the metropolis and 934 miles of sewers; consequently What will be their feeling that the forbearance-again serve. Thare was necessarily mare dinners. (A laugh.) ---
he, with great reluctance, and against his own opiaion, _________
there were 566 miles of streets without sewers, and that rePeated-of their representativeS has led, in their opi- Sir H. Seymour, whose n'ame he should mention casino of bringing this subject beore the house, ex- His niajerity comitianced from the firet hour, aial went
with great respect, had Stated in his evidence before the P • -7
consented to postpooe his motion. toted the fallacy_ ot calling the. elective franchise a on increasing. He believed he owed his return to the SEABORNE MA 115'
under a system of centralisation. (Hear, hear.) 'That nion, to a disgraceful peace ?It is imposeibie to deny that
Lord LYNDHURST said he unlerstood that it had distance comPrlsed 306,000 houses, and consequently there is in this country a feeling of dissatisfaction and committee that' he had no idea of a man's being a good " trust." A brilliant example of the futility of what was simple fact that he had been an active citizen of Norwich
been stated Vila some negotiations at Vienna were still they might reaeonably come to the conclusion there were distrust at the ambieuous•conduct-et the- amibieuous or 'diplomatist who did not give eood dinners: (Renewed called " open voting" had occurred .at the late election for the last 40 yeare. (Hear.) ' from the Gen
..........e-
-, • • (N SigniflSS that the mails are sent
Itch.) *
pending, mid that it would be contrary to the public in- or e coun y o even.
150,000 h . • • ' • ' I ' ' ' ' ' I h ) NI• Ile l''
f th t fC• At that election. stones were -ma
ouses without sewer 3 either in their front mtner, wouhl say, at the uncertain lauguage of the aug ter . _ow i tat statement were correct, he (Mr. . BURROWES said tbat alluston had been made ey the night-and Mby the morning-40 Ifs
, , W To
terest tor any discussion to take place until those nego- or at their back, by which they might communicate Government with reference to these negotiations for Wise) was afraid that the Russian ministers bad given not used, as ia the case of St. Stephen, but a leaf bad witb regard to the roasting of a certain individual in tee
no, tat , mega,
tiations were closed. He was very desirous of knowing with a drain, and that was such a startling fact peace. I believe that this feeling of dissatisfaction and better dinners than the representatives of England. heen taken from the martyrdom of Cramer and Ridley. county he bad the honour to represeot, but he could not Dari when mate et 2.1.-1,,:t ,15 ',.-1.•••
what was the state of those negotiations. that it was his duty to press this mea3nre. He found distrust exists also in this house. lam persuaded that The second resolutionof thecomrnittee referred to having A refractory voter bad been roasted until his ribs had ,dismtver the least foundation fir the story. Ile ehould COUNTRIES. In General Post-_
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Earl GRA.NVILLE said his noble friend (Earl Grey) there wa,s one street in the parish of Marylebone, con- it is OUr duty, before vie adjourn for the recees, to take a mission at Frankfort, am: to the abolition of the'mis• been completely " done"- (laughter)-but still his deeply regret if any such barbarity had occurred in the ......--- E i
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Who witeeesed the scene of the previous evening must be taining from 60 to 100 first class houses, where there means that it shall not be laid to the fault of the slops at Hanover; Stuttgardt, and Dresden. Frankfort vete had not been tortur ed out of him. Three hundred county he represented or in the county to which he be
-----7- tvw E ' Friday .• .. Liverl ~ ,
' Amerlea(byltrit.pae , Nery
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at learn as abie to answer the' noble and learned loru as were only two houses in it that communicated with the house if that uneertainty and ambiguity longer re- the first Emperor Napoleon had regarded as the window men, tenants of Sir J. Young, came to the rescue of the 1
zono•ell. The hen. Member had asserted that if Lord A.MeriCP kby United S,s. Llverlw`" . .
. e ,
hirirself. It was not true however, that the negetiations eewer. So far as he had been able to ascertain, the imin. (Hear, hear) It ie :for these reesons that I from which one marat look out upon the whole of G,fe- Drrhyite candidate ; but would they have so come had, Aberdeen hail been minister Sir J. Young. would net eacama •••••• •• -••1• .... .. .P ''
than22o3i , 0
at 'Vienna were closed. 'The Government was open to ground landlords and middle m3n of the metropolis were have taken the first r t • .1 tl k illaeY• and in hie (Mr. Wise's) opieion we sheuld insure
ipper inoty ave.* a,etome to as Sir John Yeutter at that rnoment been in offiee under au have directed his tenarits to vote for Lord Derby. He kmerle3 (b'Y U. .States .....--- S‘wl 4,-eif
. packet) ..........N
ainteL' -I
receive any proposition which might lead to a safe and anxious that this measure should pass. the oninien of the ;Muse on this subject-to ask them t , every purpose. of diplomatic convenierice in Germ iny if Aberleen Administration ?• (A laugh ) The CaVar! could state that Sir J. Young did hot in arty way interfere eustralia (via South- southe-' ,1
. . .
honourable peace; and they would, on. the other hand, •Viscount EBRINGTON was not anxious that the te-
give their opinion on tee cotiduct and language of the we were te have mieisters at Frenkfert, Vienna, aed electien affor !eil a epecitnen of the unvarying influence te :
war, his tenants, but allowed them to vote as they thought ampton) ..........M **•.‘ ....,.. Dover •• •' I ovals
decline auy terms which they thought might lead to a whole subject of drainage should be under one board, Government with respect to the greet question of peace Berlin. He recollected having read tbat the number exercised by the landlord over the tenaet•-an influence proper. A greet majority of them had supported him. Ditto (via Marseilles),Nl ..... - . Ir 6
••• - NO
Ditto (via cape or condi
„th .
contrary result. The conferences, he repeated, were lint the proposition of the right bon. baronetleft them no or ware and as so much ambiguity has prevailed, alid as of desoatches which-hash been received at the Forei,zn by which 300 men were moved about like so many au- ‘
Dr MICHELL eaid that if the hon. member would . Ho e) ... -NI ..... •••• '• imeoe-- '
not closed. It was for tbe noble earl hanteit to con- alternative in consequence of the arbitrary manner in there has been so many alarmin r- -t • 1 - •
e ins antes o equlvccal Office in the yeat• 1829, had amounted to 29.000, tematens. Like every other great landlord, Sir Jelin . , ,
.e words into his motion to make votlng by ballot &I-ma es
iroi.eue. •' ' • • ' P (IV.. 7 &bit) „Wad of the month - P v-•-•.,
.....,
' '4 It qt of a, • DOvei -toe
Bider, and he (Earl Granville) should be the last per. which he haa made out his dietriets. They must either phrases and condnet-that the house should take some apd he was not aware Oat the countr d • i Young was a political monarch over iii•• tenaetry. 1°
y erive any Alexandria .......... ,14,4, 9, ~ . ~ tow,*
applicable to divisions in that house there would be no .eo m ere emote et motels° ~,,,,eiii ring
son to point out to him what courp his sense of his give the reenag.ernent to one board or to the different step which would at least show that there is no uneer- considerable advantage from those voluminous coin- " Vote for " Derby !" " Vote for Aberdeen!" says Sir . . . . . . ArertE.n- a•••••••••• •
o,,casion for him to divide against the motion of the hon. ziariama......„ „ ..51,17th of e
th monthlSoter,
..
~ 6
.. - Dover 7),',„,i il'aji,..lol
public duty would lead him to take. He made no ap- vestries and district boards the right hon. gentleman tainty in their canduct-that there has been no change mnnications. The committte also advised thet there John YOung-it WWI all the same to them :•-• member. If he did not awry this vote he' would Move, Belgium .••••• • • • • • 'Nil 'aihiYfili:e ;;;ith•. Souttru ,;,0' 'so"-
peal to the nobie earl on the part of the Government ; had pointed out. He preferred the adoption of the in their opinion, and that they are prepareil to continue should be no mission at Florence, and he did " Whichever your Majesty may please to name- moon after the Whitsuntide recees, for a committee to in- 13razil ...............11119t 0,
0nt,,,, Fouth,o
or,i
Buenos Ayres ........3t9th 0. we in ' various It i
all he could say was, that her Majesty's Government first course as the least bad of two ba;l alternatives. to support her Majesty in this war till she obtains for • not think that so male, smallenissions as we had at pre Long cut, or short cut, 'tis all the same." quire into the !system by which patrotiage was distri- capeof does Hope ~N toe' '
would be prepared to meet the question wheuever it (Hear.) He preferrld the matter being considered by herself and her allies a secure and honourable peace. sent were oeeessery either in Italy or in German T '
s'• °e ( laueh ) He (Mr Berkeley) repeated there was no buted by the Government in ehat house. The hon. Cape of Good Hope ..N ontl, Sou
' thainP ' •
might be brought forward. one set of hands to 36. (Cheers.) I thought it due to the house, after what oc- next point upon which tbe committee had pronounced an ‘A. A ‘.- r. ' 1,, ' . c t:' ' 't- . ' b I ' lli • h h teofm ir
emee rot. sum, a state or tongs out secret voting. mem er cone tiem -y moving, tatt e voe., em ers Cape de Verds .....:N 9th of the e'i •' .0.4
' so
Lord LYNDHURST said the noble earl had stated Sir. H. WILLOUGHBY thought the 47th clause curred last niebt, and cansidering the short tirnnwe opinion related to diplomatic salaries., and these tley had ra
es 3' " • ) Voting in in that house be taken by way of the ballot. Ceylon (see India) 5
veon,
~
( ear, hear, from the Radicaa perty Cee10n..............N eoliths 0,
rio
that the confereeces were not closed. Were any nego. would not work well, and he must therefore give it a have, to give this public notice of my intention. I shall deemed it desirable should not exceed 5,0001. per. annum. ' t, ld not be • man and not There bein no se ode 1 e motien fell to the ground. Channel Isles........N!Mon.,Wed.,&Frlii!,
,ithampt 3
secre tog cowardly in the poor g e n r, t 1
Chili- .............MIV 9.17 ft '''' -I'^ ,'. ''
tiations going on ? (Hear.) Had anY ProPoeition been decided opposition. . in the cnurse of the evenin,g lay on the table the eesOln- Now, so far ea Paris and Constantinople were r d
conce ne , co•vardlet in the rich. (Hear ) The questlon Was mak- , Sir J. FITZGERA.LD supperced the motion, and aim,
'Once ain elite ••• • e ver ~.• • • 001
made by either of the five powers ? and if so, was that Lord SEYMOUR could not understand wh tb
y ese
' ti he was not exam
ons which I hope the house will adopt, and whic wi -ly prepared to coneue in that view of •
' h •11 ina steady progress, a thoue some ew in ivi
I h f ' & "dual mem- instanced cases at his own election by which voters -- "” • '8 13 18 %a 6:2150, ,i, V, bamptol, 1 gl- .
were Constantinople ........, , • , • on ..put
~
proposition still under consideration`, or had it been re- 33 districts had been found necessar d 1 d f
yan se ecte or embody the views I have attempted to express. I know the-question, but he mainteined that we should in every be'rs h 1 . ' k lel th• t tht k'd dd••-d ' d t . ' th • -c..ti ie Am teeote ate -,„ ...- 4.,e0Y
-se ratted from it ; but it was remar a.e A fq 1 nappe an intim aee o vote ageinst eir con- ,ensten nee ......•., . . ..,
.....e. Do% I' /fr
jected ! Was there a probability of any further proposi- the.purpose of carrying out the object of this clause. that to obtain an opportunity I must appeal to the indul- way eodeagour to lessen our expenditure, althott h h
g e changed their opinionn when they changed their consti- sciences. ccia. of Europe lif & N r!yice dar y.
~
a ,
tion being made end
„., had tee Government made up its 'Sir B. HALL had taken the 36 districts because th gence and kind assistance of geutlemen who have a pre- wail Tar from thinking that the members of th •• • .
e j arnor tuencies Lord Panmure had no better reasen azainst _ Egypt -(see India)
Lord
,PALMERSTON said he ehould be sorry if his Franco .... .... Ai & N Twice daily .. •• • • Dove' "'ton
r s„,utlo,hiP I •or i 6
class of the eli
mind as to the period at which the conferences should be • • cY yious right on Thursday. ' I understood from the noble • Ploniatio service were at present overpeal. Gibraltar .... M 4, 7, 17, 20, 27°.0' 031
were parishes sole, and had not been incorporated ll .th th der ihe E ror of the French
the ba ot an at un t t mpe hon. friend the meinber for Bristol were to imagine that ••"•" i „eamPt° • oi
closed? These were he sub • •
, mated, important considera- lord that we are to go into a committee of supply on (Hear.) Our diplomatic expenditure since the' year 1840 Greece Mee Mem) i
under the Poor Law Act. In ado tin that course he h)-and Sir George (4rey de-
, had been eleeted-(a laug . . . ez rem of mon. SO 0.,
....• g tii
tions. He had never heard anything more vague than • p g , Thursday, not to vote public money, but that hen. mem- had amounted to 3,000,000/ be'
~ ing pn avera e ot_ increosing virtue he had convinced him, by his very amusing though not Greytewn .... ...... Mi2nd , „gong Lone mar ,1 i
thoughteveryone would admit that if he bad not ado ,cl 214,000/. Per annum. Our di l • g eared it to be unnecessary, from the Haineurgh ..........NiTuesday &
,r- ~. mai-Wee. . p vi
the statement of the Government on this subject. 13-e- bers who wish to call aittentio to • fa t • n
e n . unpor n questio s , p omatic and consular here thnt inereas- Very argumentative spe3ch, that the ballot wa,s necessery. flavannah ..........ml2ad of the ri100'1: '.,--70,,er ..• •o:',„ 20 a e.)O
a sound, at least he had come to a, rational, conclusion. ma b • • ' of the npper classea (A laugh.) NV
' The subject then dropped. y ave 3.0 opportunity of so doing. I believe the hon. establishments] together had since that time cost the •o,itl • b. ---42.----
oral i !og:4l°
[buena ............miDaily....•••••-,•,.:,,0weP
..14 AI
The clause was then agreed O.
THE FIBRE COMPANY BILL. member for Aylesbury has given notice of a motion, •no country 4,677,0001., which gave an average expenditure me poi tea
.vit he was to be found it was difficult to In the few words he meant to address to the house 11E!
amly -t I,ad not shown itself at the last elec- Ci t• 44,., 1-, r:, i 4
ie.. .eot oe seethe expose himself to the reproach he bee India (vlaSouthampt.)Ml4th & 20th of mo ru,"ir .. 1001
The Earl of HARD WICKE moved the sus '
pension ot
~ On clause 48 being proposed, doubt of great interest, for that day. Of course 'I have for those two services of 334,000/. yearly. The saY. Cert
' '
re were
~ tion • on tke contrary, bribery and corruption seemed India (via Mars Dov,• • 0 „ S'
~1,2,
often beard made by the advocates of the ballot., that
standing order No. 176, in order that this bill might be Sir B. HALL said that all the clauses, from the 47th no right to express a wish that the hon. member sliould also expenses in connection with the purchase of pl t ' -
aet to here been as rife as tver When he Net addressed lonian Isles (see indiaue, 17, &27 of tiol.T "' toil S. '
read a first time. He said he knew nothing of the -
pro to the 70th, had been adopted from local existing acts ; give way to me, nor can I presume to press him for a which were very considerable. With reference to what ' • . those who oppose it did nothing but reproduce old ar- Ireland . ...... •M & N Twice
oblellae the house, the noble lord now at
.the head of the Govern- daily •.,.• •• ee„eierne.,_.,, ,is
Lisbon .. ..m 7,9, 17, &270 f nu euntrosepw.3l 4 f
moters, except tha,t their object was to carry out a new and such beirrg the case he thoug,ht that they would re- moment to do so. All I can say is, that if the motion. of V.:P.3 terzued " secret diplomacy,”_ he non,t say that, in i 4. • d gu t
men s. He, however, believed that those arguments Medeirl:::..::::::..M 9th of the month tioverpool ..•
invention for the manufacture of paper. From 1840 to quire but little discussion.
Thursday, I
the hon. member is brought forward and disposed of on
et:on nal dp
ihgee h04e1.,
bp
his opinion, the country knew too littlb of 'th ' t •
0.,e eaes- • 4, . s e " • • cheer from the were in themselves conclusive. The demonstration of a
et inzaFatorireitgh:toffirlocc;mhaednt:e-henichmhda.d st.)- °Bl ' ' P
ment, who had alwaye voted agaanst the ba 100 accuse . . ,
••
Honduras .......... 81117,th Of the m0nt0n.a,,,,„,,uth....1
him of exa6ger..Alon, (An ironical .. . . .
185 4 the consumption of that article increased from Viscount EBRINGTON said that the only effectual will still attempt, • before the adjoiirnrne.nt actions in which its interests were deeply involved ; nor Vet "....1
1 p 'thin ) flow with the election of 1852 before his roposition of Euclid which was also canclusivd might be Malta (see In") . reel"
ninety-six millions to one hundred and. saventy million course of drainage was te • turn. it into streams, aria for the holidays, to ask the house to adopt a resolution
equally complained of. He thought that publicity and the Madeira
......,
.:
....
vi ,92t3dietoefeinthoon(thinerri.n.ot01'1)°` e• . • • " 'es O. , -
Malta ..............N p, 18, &28 of in i a 1
pounds per annum, and there was great difficulty in sup- uch as thet I have in&cated end whic i h een drawn u in-1844 an ' -
thereby accomplish that which was the intention of na- s.n - i , • hwll t nd.to . . P , d %inch had so long eemained
vi dicate the honour of P el' ' deyes: hedcould make that charge, he was at a loss to un-,. Mauritius (see India) I Jul
ersian . e no e
Th bl 1' d d
or ma e, on that occasion, a . . . meal) ,e 00"
IVlanritius ..........N il4 thof the „,, -sos. • ~. • 01
plying an adequate supply. It had been recently dis- ture-namely, to make that a fructifier which was at a 'amen y. . ..,.
ae " poolopoohing" speech, which it was rather difficult to responsibilit of üblic o in•ci • e
y p p i n wet e the oreat principles mesteo . ......... ..el One of the moro•!:•:,„ver •••too ;ef•
covered that flax was an article which could be used in Present a cause of disease. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LAYARD-I cordially concur in all the sentt-
. public we sh
, ould have been bet,ter prepargd. either to
lantoh seunctciess than Was at present the case. (Hear.) The of our representativelnstitutioni. He held that the privi- NaPlos-.•••- ..•.....N sthisth2sthofraLn •L',..„,,,thairP .; vrS
nth ev . 0 port
the manufacture of paper ; the fibre which reniained Sir J. SHELLEY thought the drainage of the inetro- ments to which tbe right hon. gentleman who has just al,vviert war, "ear, having entered upon It, to prosecute it niee.t i hut when the noble lord wag defeated' for Hamp-
shire and toole refuee le the snu.a. borough of Tiverton- lege of voting for the eleetion of a re, resentative in Paella-
s) New Zealand...°.ll.l.es)M
New Granada ......N 2d & 17thteofslprfi0p
..varzeo_.
..„,
given expression. , appears to me that
after the extraction of the oil being well adapted to the polis would never be properly carried out unless it was sat down has • • I' (a aug - 1 e not tin t e retie, • armer was uc er
1' b) d'd‘ h ' h• kh B ' 'll f d •
mcnt was a trust confided b 'the constitutional law t PaPa'statei
Y - ll3y Privastrofmen•Vo.,:nn;ptoa
,A 0
•...•...N sthlsth2, • n ,soul , ton. C.P-
°a' Peninsula ..........M 7thl7th27thofino ....„,„o,,,usu o_,,tst V
purpose. The order which stood in the way of the carried beyond the limits of the metropolis, which he the t. t h'cli h * g ernari ooncluded by. moving the resolution. some little intimidation ?On the 23d July, 1837, the
Ties ion ow 1 . e proposes to draw the attention Mr, EW
ART seconded the t- 11. h f • d '
mo ton. is on. men certain portion of the community for the ' benefit of Peru ... .... . ~M 'ld & 27th of m0tu,,,,,;(':,,in p 0,,.
second reading of the bill had been suspended in favour hoped ultimately would be the case, and the b t
re y preven . noble lord told the electors, that to deter electors from ; ''•
Port Nats..... ship•••• v i-,,;er ••••
......N By private_
vggo,„ po r
...... 50 #l.
of the house ' f ' •
is o vital importance ; and although I con- had called their attention to the financial part of the the nation at large-that a man who was invested i.vith
of railways and of the electric telegraph, and its suspen- its interference with the water courses.
the importance of establishing an educational test for Sicily ...............Nlsthlstll2sth
frnon.pove,.ooptool
• sider the resolutions'of which I have given notice of question, and he was anxious to direct their attention to h such a üblic trust ought to discharge that trust in Tuscany .„.„ „ „ „../415th15025th0 lisouto ,
lion in this case could do no injury to the public. Lord SEYMOUR observed there was no provision - Uti.ving . theEir v, ot,es freely w_ as a regular Tory practice
whenever a Too' was opposed to a man of reformed , P moat • 1,1
After a few words from several noble lords, the motion in the 101 l h b • ' •
ito prevent t e sewerage eang carried into some importance also, yet I shall undoubtedly give wa I h th f fth h 1 e t (Cheers.) Ever
iberal principles. (A laugh.) What was tle c ange , e ace o ew o e ceun ry. y man Van Diemen'sLand(seel anlPt°
- ' if
10
...,./
was withdrawn. the Thames, and thought if the hon. baronet introduced to the right hon. gentleman. y candidates in our diplomatic service. He b I •
. would be i e 'eyed it which had come O'er the spirit of the noble lord's should perfOrm that trust openly, and all persons should Australia) .. . ...I di SO°
generally adm tted that at the present day we .. •• - ..Mi2,l& 17thoi Mon ,
II 11 a*:i;
LEASE AND SALES OF SETTLED ESTATES a clause preventing its being done after a- Certain Lord PALMERSTON-Accordi dream since that • )Th b bl • West Indies
period ? (Laughter. e ononra e be enabled to inquire.how such person had acted in the Venezuela ..........10dEeMth ot
BILL. date it would materially strengthen his bill. With which has been d b h • •
ng to the statement were inferior in diplomatic skill to 11 h
a t e esther great member then continued to uote in favour of the . +aloe, .n of 4
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that when he regard to the district, where there was . ma ey t e right hon. gentleman op- natione of the world, and that we bad greatly degene- ballot the x ree d ' ' 7. President• Jackson, the
e p ,se opinions o ee of hii trust It had b
dischare , . een often proved that, Whenany of these dates fall 0,1 a .
excep!to dope
,
, moved the first reading of this bill last week he had only a small breadth of land between the inter- posite there was a scene last night in this house. gg rated in that respect • since the days of Elizabeth and •
Rieht Hon. T. B. Macaulay Mr. Charles Buller, Lord though there might be cases of bribery and intimidation wretched on the following day, with the.
._„, will be
Southampton),and the slalta. both of wn'',"
.Air
of i
stated shortly the object and provision of tbis bill ;he secting clause and the Thames, there was nothing to ' Cronawell
laugh.) Well, if it be trite that a scene was enact!ed • He proposed to remedy 'that evil by in- Alh M R.
t orp, r. icardo Sir E. L. Bulwer,. William Cob- under our present system, secret yotin,g Would not be
preceding day.
.............................„....... tin • os
would, therefore, only move that it be read a second prevent their • th ' •tth T'
carrying e sewerage in o e names. here upon that occasion, the scene which has th• ' stitutiug an examination for all persons anxious
b L B ' IV II B Disrael:
eth, erd roughann and the ight on. . . a any secueity agaitist.such improper practices. They had - Ilse r m
tow res -
f the cau
. re even_ to enter the diplomatic service ; and languages and been often told that they ought to follow the example rs 0 4
. time. which was agreed to. • Sir J. SHELLEY said he thought it would not be ing been presented to us in my opinion surp - ' • • amidst great laughter. He concluded his quotations The committee of rate-pa Yes ADry's 1 Iha
ECCLESLA.STICAL PROPERTY' (IRELAND) right of them t alstiees it, and international law should, of course, form the main sub- . of the United States, where the votes were taken hy
o prevent some of the existing sewerage IZmust say it does great credit t th • - with the opinion of laird Melbourne, and the tvinion of d t. - 00 • e 0-• oft
plethwaite have purcbase
.1
nit L 4
seem aye
o e acto ects of such an examination. ballot. It was true that in the United• States the votrs
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The LORD CHANCELLOR said that when he
moved the first readinc, of this bill last week he had
stated shortly the object' and provision of this bill ; he
would, therefore, only move that it be read a second
time, which was agreed to.
ECCLESIASTICAL PROPERTY (IRELAND)
BILL.

Lord MONTEAGLE moved the second reading of
this bill, which was agreed t'.
CUSTOMS DUTIES BILL.
This bill passed through countuttee.
SPIRIT, &c. DUTIES (EXCISE) BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
SEWERS (HOUSE) DRINAGE BILL.

On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY this bill
was read a second time. The standing orders were sus-
pended, and the bill paused its remaining stages, an
alteration having been made in one of the clauses in
committee.

Lord SEYMOUR observed there was no provision
in the bill to prevent the sewerage being carried into
the Thames, and thought if the hon. baronet introduced
a clause preventing its being done after a certain
date it would materially strengthen his bill. With
regard to the district, where there was
cniy a small breadth of land between the inter-
secting clause and the Thames, there was nothing to
prevent their carrying the sewerage into the Thames.
Sir J. SHELLEY said he thought it would not be
right of them to prevent some of the existing sewerage
from flowing into the Thames, and that the amount of
drainage that would do so after the passing of this
bill would be very inconsiderable. To prevent
the sewerage from the houses between the sewer
and the Thu.:nes flowing into the Thames would be an
injustice on the owners of property, by compelling them
to reverse their levels to cause it to flow into the sower.
Lord SEYMOUR said he thought the hon. baronet
should undertake to introduce a clause that after a cer-
ain date none of the districts in the centre of the City
should carry sewers into the Thames, and that, where
these districts now did so, it should be carried by means
of iron tubes under low-water level.

Sir B. HALL said that, with reference to the latter,
he would undertake arrangements should be made to
carry out the noble lord's views.

Oa the stio-qe,tion of Mr. WILKINSON,
Sir B. HALL said he should have no objection to in-
troduce a c!anse to provide that where district boards
were not inclined to do certain works, it should be in
the power of the General B if it was thought ne-
ce,Rary, to carry them on.
The clause was then agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained
leave to sit again on Friday next at 12 o'clock.

-TtIF -DERBY.
Lord BARRINGTON, seeing no business of any im-
portance on the paper for to-morrow, moved that the
house at its rising should adjourn to Thursday.
Agreed to.
The house then adjourned to six o'clock.

At six o'clock the house resumed.
A conference was held with the Lords. On the re-
turn
of the Commons' members,
Lord PALMERSTON announced that the messengers
on the part of the Lords had communicated certain reso-
lutions which their lordships had niopted with regard to
messages of either house. On the motion of the noble
lord, the resolutions were laid on the table, and ordered
to he considered on Thursday next.
Mr. HEYWOOD gave notice that on Tuesday, the
19th of June, he would move an humble address to her
Majesty, praying that she would be graciozsly pleased
to issue her Royal commission to substitute an open ex-
amination, on the principle of competition, in place of
the present system of nominations, for admission into the
Royal Military Academy at Woolwich.
Mr. OTWAY gave notice of his intention to ask
whether it was true that Wallachia and Moldavia had
been subjected to martial law, and whether the Govern-
ment would lay on the table any communications which
had passed on the subject.
Major REED gave notice of his intention to with-
draw the amendment to the motion of the hon. member
for Bristol. He also gave notice that if that motion
were rejected he would introduce a bill to permit the
ballot in cases in which a constituency petitioned for it.
Mr. VANCE wished to ask the Attorney-General for
Ireland respecting the progress of the Intramural Burials
(Ireland) Bill ?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said
some questions had arisen as to the expense of opening
new cemeteries, but the bill had been read a second time
by the other house.
In answer to Colonel KNox,

Mr. L AYARD-1- cordially concur in all the senti-
ment. 4 to which tie right hon. gentleman who has just
sat down has given expression. It appears to me that
the question to which he proposes to draw the attention
' of the house is of vital importance ; and although I con-
sider the resolutions of which I have given notice of
some importance also, yet I shall undoubtedly give way
to the right hon. gentleman.
Lord PALMERSTON—According to the statement
which has been made by the right hon. gentleman op-
posite there was a scene last night in this house. (A.
laugh.) Well, if it be true that a scene was enact'A
here upon that occasion, the scene which has thi' even.
ing been presented to us in my opinion surpaPeine it, and
Irriust say it does great credit to the actors concerned.
(Renewed laughter.) The Governrne' can, of course,
have no objection whatever to meet the motion which
the right hon. gentleman 11"..8 announced it to be his in-
tention to bring on oet Thursday next. If the right
hon. gentleman had been contented with the simple an-
nouncement of his intention to bring forward that motion,
I should have deemed it to be unnecessary to say any-
thing upon the subject. The right hon. gentleman has,
however, complained that the language of Government
in the present position of affairs has been equivocal and
ambiguous. Now, the justice of that complaint I beg
leave to deny. If the right hon.. gentleroon ineans that
I we have not thought it to be consistent with our duty
to deeare the precise conditions of the com,nuni•
cations that have passed, or are passing, between her
Majesty's Ministers and the Government vitli which we
are in communication, then 1 must par that I cons Per
it -would Lave been a great 'oreacl of puhlic deity upon
our part it we had answered the demands which have
been made upon uP,, and if we had not employed Oa'
necessary reseeve which it is the duty of a Government
to adopt in matters of international communic%tion be-
tween her Majesty's Ministers and the Government of
another country. (Bear.) But the right hon. ge: tleinan
has stated ti at it eras in consequence of the sil,nce of
this house in 1853 that we have, as he says, drifted int')
war. Now, I beg leave to sly that the forbearance
wh'cli this house showed in 1853 much increased the
chances of preserving peace ; and that so far from hon.
members having anything to reproach themselves with
as to their silence having led to war, they have every
reason to congratulate themselves that they did not, by
impeding the progress of negotiations, preclude those
chances of that accommodation which, up to that
moment, we thought was within our reach. Now,
what is the present state of affairs 1 It is made a
charge against the Government that they have prose-
cuted these negotiations under auspices which must
have led to their being unavailing in the attainment of
their object. Why, let me ask, would not it have been
a just cause of reproach to the Government if, when so
great a power in Europe as Austria was disposed to
afford us its assistance in our endeavours to bring about
an accommodation with the nation with which we are at
war, we had arbitrarily refused that assistance—had re-
pelled the just advances of Austria, and had said, " we
shall have nothing to do with you ; we choose to con-
duct our negotiations without your aid." In my opinion
we should have had much to reproach ourselves with if
tt
for
ho
re yr,
he
andwe had not availed ourselves of the good offices of Aus-
tria and endeavoured, through her co-operation and in-
tervention, to obtain if possible from our enemy satisfac-
tory
rhonourablecontinuedothinking terms
horemtgsatt oi
negotiations
je a accommodation.lorsea tununder
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eto blame
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auspices f a r ,
af oe, from
of Austria, I think we should have greatly neglected our
duty if we had declined the intervention of that country.
I can quite understand that we should be open to blame
if it could be proved that, relying upon the prospect
which these negotiations held out of an honourable
peace, and placing implicit confidence upon the good
offices of Austria in effecting that result, we had neg-
lected to adopt those means by which the war was likely
to be brought to a successful and an honourable termi-
nation. That reproach, however, cannot be fairly laid
to our charge. We have, it is true, availed ourselves
of the good offices of Austria for the purpose of obtain-
ing
from Russia terms of peace which we should
deem safe and honourable to this country ; but we
have not for one moment relaxed our efforts in carry-
ing out those measures which, if no negotiations hart
been in progress, we should have deemed it to be our.
duty to make for the purpose of prosecuting the war'
IWhile upon
I recede from the consideration of overtures of a,cco n mo-
I t"hlethonveiloiaunrda,ntdhereetrirretyw. .-e (liiaiveearnot thought it right to
if no negotiat7oes
to the prosecution of the war as
s no chance that
dation, upon the other hand we have acted in regard
wa
obtain
we or our allies should through thoseis
were going on,
negotiations The right hon.
a settlement of the question at issue. and a 3 if there
12.6 thinks it gentleman says that the. reaosfonthwe 1
why he
upon those neces-
earyne-
gotiations to call for the opinion
• i" at Whitsuntide, although
that pe-
usually long period"
..
the time gene-
rallyriod embraces only a few days more than , t
„It.
before we separate. for what. he calls " an un-
. ful '7.,-,[1.-. thct "^-71';'77 '.-,'`,.% (71,,,., • -.. . . •
allowed, is that he aepeelieede durimr h," .e'
tee Gover.i t, find it-e:i bound up by a clisascrennd
diShonoureble pea Ce. ' Now, I can only assure the house
a
e
-and the-right hon. gentleman that so• long asg those who
are now charged with the conduct of affairs shall con.

Lord PALMERSTON said he readily admitted that
most important duties devolved on our. diplomatic and
consular officers. But at the saaie time be should ob-
serve that it would be impossible to reconcile with the
high character of that service those censures on the arts
of diplomacy which the hon. gentleman who had intro-
duced the motion had quoted from the writers of a past
era, but in which he took it for granted that the hon.
gentlemen himself could not entirely concur. He ad-
mitted that all the recommendations of the committee
of 1850 had not been carried into effect, but several
of their suggestions had been adopted. The salaries,
he contended, could not be reduced below their
present standard—for, in point of fact, those salaries
were below, rather arm above, the point which
propriety required. (Hear.) Mini.-tters were substi-
tuted for ambassadors in almost every Court exeept Paris
and C:mstantieople, where, front the intonate relations
et present existing hetween them and this country, the
change would not he &Arable. Then with regard to the
petty German States, no doubt a minister residing there
would acquire some information, but he would not be
able ti) obtain that intimate knowledge of the politics
of those States which it was most portant to acquire.
He defended the principle on which diplomatic appoint-
ments were male, and stated that while a rigid a iherence
t) the rule of seniority would be the safest for the Alit iste,r,
and though a departure from it would expose him to the
imputation of favouritism, still every Minister would feel
it ter his own interest to appoint the men whom he
might think the fittest for the different places. lie added
that at a meeting of the Privy Council yesterday, an or
der was passed instituting an examination of candi-
didates for different public appointments ; and he had
no doubt his noble friend at the Foreign-office would
be anxious to extend the Hanle system to the diplomatic
service. In conclusion, he hoped the honourable gen-
tleman would not press his motion.

Mr. BERKELEY then rose to bring forward his an-
nual motion in favour of the ballot. He said he had
been told that this was a disadvantageous time for it,
while men's minds were suffering under a series of victo-
rious disasters. But never was it more important to have
men of the people's choice in Parliament than at present.
(Hear, hear.) And this could not be under the present
system. To those who hated reform, the war,hal great
charms, as a seasonable relief. But with sincere reformers
the mismanagement of the war created a stronger argu-
ment in favour of reform. (Hear.) The blunders, disas-
ters, and failures which had occurred in our various de-
partments had risen first froni the Government having
lacome hereditary in a few great families. (Hear, hear.)
There were changes of Ministries but not of systems.
One set of aristocrats • went out " trietes," and another,
" gaudentes" came in. (Laughter.), One set said when
we come in then you shall see—what you shall see !
(Laughter.) Then, when they came in, what did we see ?
Jobbry, red tape, and routine. (Hear, and laughter.)
The people were fully alive to the atrocities of the sys-
tem. The cause was apparent. The Queen could only
select her advisers from a few great families, because
they monopolised place and power ; and thus not only
the Ministers of the Crown, but the leadeA of our fleets
and armies were chosen, net for merit or ability, but
because they belonged to the "great families," who
were able to make or mar a ministry. (Hear, hear.)
Those great families had desperate fights for place,
but on all points connected with their monopoly of
power they were united as one man. (Laughter.) If
there were only places . enough, Whigs and Tories
would become a " banpy family" political cats
fraternising with political rats. (Great laughter.) Peo-
ple were sick of this system—sick of sorry generals,
selected from the "Red Book," and Ministers from
" Burke's Peerage." There had been an inquiry, which
bad concluded its labours, and was about. to bring forth
a report. But what was to prevent that inquiry from
going the way of all inquiries? It might result in a
stinging report, and possibly in some measure ; but if it
interfered with the patronage of "the great families" it
would fail. Lately there was a splendid instance of
getting rid of a "popular clamour"—how the "good
Lord Aberdeen" bad cried for change, arid every mem-
ber of his Government had his handkerchief to his eyes
weeping for the depravity of mankind. (Laughter.) But
what did it all cite to? A "Corrupt Practices at Elec-
ti ins Thll," which would do nothing to prevent brilsery.
"The true remedy was the ballot. The evi lance collected
by the Ballot Society from various•boroirglis in the king-
dom, s'iowed that since the passing of the Corrupt Pale-
. tires at Elections Bid bribery and intimidation existed
tohas great an extent as ever. He lied, on the last oc-
casion of bringing this subject before the house, ex-
posed the fallacy of calling the elective franchise a
" trust." A briliiant example of the futility of what was
called "open voting" hisd occurred .at the late election
for the county of Cavan. At that election stones were
not used, as hi the case of St. Stephen, but a lesf bad
been taken from the martyrdom of Cramer and Ridley.
A refractory voter bad been roasted until his ribs had
been completely " done"— (laughter)—but still his
vote had not been tortured out of him. Three hundred
men, tenants of Sir J. Young, came to the rescue of the
D-rbyite candidate ; but would they have so conic had:
Sir John Young at that moment been in offiee under
Aberdeen Administration ? (A laugh ) The Coven
election affor led a specimen of the unvarying influence
exercised by the landlord over the tenaia--an influence
by which 300 mon were moved, about like so many au-
tomatons. Like every other great landlord, Sir Jelin
Young was a political monarch over his tenantry.
'" Vote for " Derby !" " Vote for Aberdeen !" says Sir
John Young—it was all the same to them :--
" Whichever your Majesty may please to name—
Long cut, or short cut, 'tie all the same."
(A laugh.) He' (Mr. Berkeley) repeated there was no
remedy for such a state of things but secret voting.
(" Hear, hear," from the Radical party ) Voting in
secret could not he cowardly in the poor man and not
cowardly in the rich. (Hear) The question was mak-
ing steady progress, although some few individual mem-
bers had ratted from it ; but it was remarkable that they
changed their opinionn when they changed their consti-
tuencies. Lord Panmure had no better reason against
the ballot than that under it the Emperor of the French
had been elected—(a laugh)—and Sir George trey de-
clared it to be unnecessary, from the increasing virtue
of the upper classes. (A laugh.) Where that increas-
ing-political virtue was to be found it was difficult to
say. Certainly it had not shown itself
.at the last elec-
tion ; on the contrary, bribery and corruption seemed
to have been as rife as sever. When lie last addressed
the borae, the noble lord now at the head of thaGovern-
ment, who had always voted against the ballot, accused
him of "exaggeration," (An ironical cheer from the
opposition.) How, with the election of 1852 before Ins
eyes, he could make that charge, he was at a loss to un-,
derstand. The noble lord made, on that occasion, a.
"pooh-poohing" speech, which it was rather difficult to
meet ; brit When the noble lord was defeated' for Hamp-
shire, and tools refuge in the sntt,ts borough of Tiverton—
(a laugh)---did he not think the British farmer was under
some little intimidation ? On the 23d July, 1837, the
noble lord told the electors, that to deter electors from
giving their votes freely was a regular Tory practice
whenever a Tory was opposed to a man of reformed
Liberal principle's. (A laugh.) What was the change
which had come o'er the spit of the noble lord's
dream since that period ? (Laughter.) The honourable
member then continued to quote in favour of the
ballot the expressed opinions of President•Jackeon, the
Right Hon. T. B. Macaulay Mr. Charles Buller, Lord
Althorp, Mr. Ricardo, Sir E. L. Bulavere William Cob-
bett, Lard Brougham, and the Right lion. B. Disraeli,
amidst great laughter. He concluded his quotations
-with the opinion of Lord Melbourne, and the 'opinion of
a weekly journal to the same effect. He (Mr. BerkelaY)
said he thought it necessary to enter his caveat agitill't
being misquoted or misinterpreted in respect of what 11.°
had said on the subject of the aristocratic element per-
vading the house and' the army, and against being
answered by a play upon words. He had detracted
neither from the:valour nor from the ability of the upper
classes. He admitted that the Royal and aristocratic
soldiers at the battles of Alma, of Inkerman, and Bala-
klava displayed great valour and gallantrya—fully equal;
in fact, to the valour and gallantry of the middle and
lower classes engaged in-those great actions. It would,
moreover, be an act of folly on his part' to express a
doubt as to the ability of the aristocracy in the presence
of a Russell, of a Pabnerston, and of a Dsrby. But he
thought it, in fact, susceptible of proof that the army
and the executive ha, l beet monopolised by that class to
the detriment of both. He di l not think that Lord
Foppington, or the Hon. Tom Shualeton, or Sir Harry
E ssy, were oticulated to make such good of ef:rs in the
army as ineseof the middle classes, because their pur-
suits, as well as their pleasures, lay in London arid at
Melton Mowbray ; whereas Brown, Jones, and Robin-
son, who made the army their profession, were infinitely
more likely to turn out better officers. It was the
enstem in the country to boast of what had been clone
by the a-isteeracy, and to place the ini Idle &asses in the
back ground. But it alainal never be firgeiten that an
army led by.a prince, and officered by the flower of the
English nobility,• were not able to withstand an army led
on by a brewer, awl officered by men of his own situation
in life. The arm's, of Csarres I. was never a match for
the Ironsiales of Cromwell, not because they were less
brave, but because they were not so professional. He
(Hr. B) would not be understood to say that the ballot
was tae panacea for every political evil, but be welshl
phint out to the country that without a change in the
electoral system there would be no change in the admi-
nistrative department of the executive government.
lie asked for the ballot, therefore, because it was the
only key to unlock the fetters in which the elector now
lay bound, and to give him that weight in the decision
of public affairs which was solemnly guaranteed to him
by the constitution
.of the country.
Mr: FEILDEN seconded the motion. He had long
been an advocate of the ballot from his experaence of
travel in foreign countries, where peace and prosperity
prevailed at all political elections ; whereas, in this
country, the greatest disorder and violence prevailed at
siiililar elections. He hoped, therefore, that the vote of
that night would have the effect of putting an end to
this state of things,
Lord SEYMOUR—The hon. member for Bristol had
said a great deal against the aristocracy on both sides of
the house, and he (Lord Seymour) had listened to him
he confessed, with much surprise, for he certainly thought
the house of Berkeley had not been altogether unmixed
with aristocratic proceedings. He remembered the time
when they were called the Ameers of Seinde, and when
their aristocratic arrogance in conducting elections in'
their own county was such that Eit was declared to be in-
tolerable. Yet the hon. gentleman got up to-night and
said that he knew neither one aide of the aristocracy nor
the other ; and he called them pot and kettle, though
what he was, between the two, it was impossible for the
house to say. (A. laugh, and hear.) The main grounds
upon which he (Lord Seymour) should give_ his vote
Against the motion was, that publicity was the very es-
sence of the representative system. But the hon. gen-
tleman Paid there was one particular class of persons
that must be protected, and one particular action that
must be free and concealed, and that action happened to
be the production of a member of Parliament. He was
to be hatched in the dark. (Laughter.) Nobody was
to know bow he was produced ; but out be came, snme-
how or othea'from the ballot-box. Something went in
from a number of people, and somehow or other it be-
came a member of Parliament. -(Renewed laughter.)'
Who were the persons whose conduct was to be exempt
from all examinaton ? Why, the retail dealers of the
ceantry. If the measure succeeded it would reduce all
voters to one general level of degradation, and they
would become the mere carriers of voting-tickets.
Mr. GORDON entreated the indulgence of the house
whilst, as a new member, he stated why he should give
his vote in favour of the motion of the hon. member
for Bristol. He was the more- desirous not to give a
silent vote on the occasion, because he did not en-
tirely share in the"sentiments of the hon. member
who proposed the motion, and still less shared in those
which ti era. express:seri by the noble lord who- -Lad
juat ;spoken: -He should- vote for the motion, 'not
so much because he thought the ballot was likely to
prove a panacea for all the evils which existed in our
electoral systOw, but rather in the hope that it :night_
2 - - - •

Mr. WILLIAMS complained of the high salaries
give❑ to the diplomatists of this country, which were, as
a general rule, double those allowed to the ministers of
the United States, without iil any case securing a higher
degree of talent.
Mr. R. PaILLIMORE suggested that consuls in
foreign ports should not be allowed to engage in private
business, .

Mr. RICH said he would lay on the table the reso-
lutions which he meant to move on the 12th of Jono re-
garding the system of purchase in the army. The pur-
port of it would be, that the system had failed in its ob-
ject, was unjust is its working, was in open violation
of the practice in other departments, and should not be
continued longer than was necessary for the gradual and
just satisfaction of the claims of individuals and the
state.

ideas-
so often urged by the hon. member for Dumfries respect-
ing Mr. WIIITESIDE pressed upon the house the
the necessity of a special education for our diploma-
tic servants, and alluded to one or two instances in his
own experience where such an education would have
been highly desirable.
After a few words from Admiral PECHELL,
Mr. OT WAY complained that promotions in the diplo-
matic service had been confined exclusively to the sons
and relatives of peers of Parliament and of Cabinet
Ministers. He cited the case of Mr. Letsom, who was
an attache in Berlin in 1331. whence, in 1834, he was
removed to Munich, and again, in 1840, he was removed
to Washington, and then for the first time paid. After
a diplomatic service of 23 years, nine of which were un-
paid, that same gentleman, who had conducted himself
to the satisfaction of those who employed him, was ap-
pointed secretary to the embassy at Mexico. Let the
house cont:ast Mr. Letsom's case -with that with the
Hon. Mr. Howard, who was attached to the embassy
at Paris in 1838, and who, in 1841, three years after-
wards, was male first p rid attache in Paris, with a Falary
equal to that of a secretary of legation. .Again, in less
than two years after that, the. same Mr. Howard was
made Secretary of Legation at the iiiteue. He had there-
fore filled two of the most agre,eable posts in Europe.
&gain, at Constantinople Lord Napier had been made Se=
cretary of Legation there over the head of Mr. Addison,
the distinguished Oriental scholar, who had resided there
for many years. What did he find with reference to
on t o3n one
9 ars
,e
Stanley ? In December, 1851, ho was made second
13:61
attache' at Constantinople, after having acted as precis
writer ta the noble lord (Lord Palmerton)) ; arid six days
'afterwards he was promoted to the office of first paid
:eatftherimbe mine
attachd. Again, in January, 1854, the same Mr. Stanley,
the son of the President of the Board of Trade, was made
or
to
Secretaryzof otfheLegation at Athens.
pi herse.tre Let
in the service, was still unpaid, and so was Mr. Lytton,
who entered the servile. in 1849. Both these were er,ri:
t'enien of czr:at at;ilit-c. The., came Lerd (1,•
wr.
was yet made paid attach 6 at. Turin in 1805.. He wa,
yeally.. surprised that; with- the faefs • before him the
noble viscount could contend that men were selected for
diplomatic appointments for their fitness, and not be.

In answer t 3 Mr. COWAN,
Mr. V. SMITH said that orders had been sent out to
the Governor-d-eneral to prepare a draft of a bill on the
subject of authorising grants of letters patent for

- Lord PALMERSTON said he should be sorry if his
hon. friend the member for Bristol were to imagine that
he had convinced him, by his very amusing though not
Very argumentative speech, that the ballot was necessary.
In the few words he meant to address to the house he
felt that he would expose himself to the reproach he had
often heard made by the advocates of the ballot; that
those who oppose it did nothing but reproduce old ar-
guments. He, however, believed that those arguments
were in themselves conclusive. The demonstration of a
proposition of Euclid which was also conclusivd might be
equally complained of. He thought that publicity and the
responsibility of public opinion were the great principles
of our representativelnstitutioni. lie held that the privi-
lege of voting for the election of a representative in Parlia-
ment was a trust confided by'the constitutional law to a
certain portion of the community for the' benefit of
the nation at large—that a man who was invested with
such a public trust ought to discharge that trust in
the face of the whole country. (Cheers.) Every man
should perfOrm that trust openly, and all persons should
be enabled to inquire.how such person had acted in the
discharge of his trust. It had been often proved that,
though there might he cases of bribery and intimidation
under our present system, secret voting would not be
any secueity ngairist.such improper practices. They had
been often told that they ought to follow the example
of the United States, where the votes were taken by
ballot. It was true that in the United, States the votes
were given by the way of the ballot, but. they did not
profess to be at all secret, notwithstanding. (Hear,
hear.) Secrecy was not the object of the electors
there. The ballot was hut a short method of giving
their ,i,Z.es in the United States, as several elections
were eemetn2es •goin.g on at the same time. It was,
therefore, not to." secrecy, but for convenience, the
ballot was adopted 1
the 'United States. So far
1.
from the votes bein ,e,„-et there, it was well known
g
in the United States . ho* rery man voted. The
men there were as proud of their 70tes as the men in
England were, and they scorned to gise: them in secrecy.
Wily, the adoption of the ballot he this iionntry would
be degrading the national character. EagliehOen would
not submit to it. No law which this house con.'d pass
on the subject could compel the inejority of the eleoers
to clothe in secrecy their votes, or to suppress the ex-
preson of their political opinions. What would hit ppen
in the event of this system being adopted by Per liament ?
The great hulk of the electors would d, fy their hew, and
only a comparative few would be found to go sneaking
to the poll fir the purpose of screening themselves from
personal inconveniences., Such persons would become
objects of obloquy, arid would be degraded in the eyes
of their fellow-citizens. These .vere his sjiert reasons
why he thought th t this proposal of the billet was one
which Parliament ought not to adopt. He thought it
would be 4h. Lte,ther.ineffectual for the purposes pro-
posed ; and if so ineffectdal, he thought that it would be
a great re.lblic calamity. Tlit, bou-e appeared to be some-
what menu-ed by the pr posiyion of the bon member fcr
Bodrnin—that the votes of members in that house ought
to be taken by the nay of ,ballot. He (Lord Palmer-
ston), however, thought that there was much more
logic in that proposal than the one submitted to them
by the lion. member for Bristol. ,Wes the ballot pro-
posed on grounds of individual protection or on grounds
of public utility ? Whether did they want to screen
electors' from inconvenience, or to enable persons to
act according to their wishes ? If they wished to screen
persons from inconvenience, why, he asked, were not the
members of 'that hr,us 3 entitted to give their votes in se-
crecy ? And if they did intend it as a public measure for
the purpose of enabling persons more fatly to perform a
'public duty, he would ask whether the duty performed
by an elector could for one instant be put into competi-
tion with the duty performed by hon. members. Would
any man tell him that the votes of members were not
constantly given in deference to the pressure of their
constituents ? Why, they well knew that it vas so, and
therefore, if there were any sound argument that an
elector should give his vote in secret, it would have ten-
fold force as applicable to the votes of the members of
that house. But ho should be sorry to see any such in-
novation introduced. The same principle upon which he
contended that. an elector should perform his duty in the
face of the public had also tenfold force in regard to
members of that house ; and therefore, in point of logic,
the proposal of the hon. member for B.rdmin was much
stronger than that of the hon. member for Bristol. He
(Lord Palmerstem) said it was arductio ad absurdaw, and
it only proved that according to the true principles of
the constitution, they ought not adopt a measure which
tended to withdraw from public responsibility any par-
ticular'act done by persons in the discharge of a duty en-
trusted to them by the constitution. (Cheers.)

601:41M

THE WAR;
Mr. DISRAELI—I take the liberty of presenting
two observa
myself for the purpose of making one or
tions on a question of importance. I confess it appears
to me that the present poSition of 'affairs is very critical,
and cannot be passed over without notice as far as the
reputation and honour of this house is concerned. The
house, Perhaps, will anticipate that I particularly allude
to what took place last night, (Hear, hear.) On that
ocuasien the langua4e of the Government was to rny
mind so equivocal—their demeanour altogether so dis-
couraging, that I con!em .1_ myself shrink from the re.
Oponsibility of accodin undere tho oirottaaltoacee to aJ

Mr. DILI* VN4l4uouorted the motion.
Mr. H. BEIIItELEY briefly replied.
The house then divided—
.
F.‘r Mr. Berkeley's motion ............... 166
Against it . .................................. 218
Majority .............AD...ING BILL.
..........
BILLS' OF L
. The order for the second reading of this bill,was dis-
charged, and have was given to introduce a.new bill
founded upon the resolution of a committ SILLe house.
BANKRUPTCYkIKELAND) .
On the motiori for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. VANCE suggested that it should 'he postponed.
After some observations from the SOLICITOR-GENERAL
for IRELAND and Mr. CAIRNS,
The second reading of the. bill was postponed until
the sth of June.
The'Absconding Debtors (Ireland) Bill was read a
third time.
The Railways (Ireland) Bill was read a-secold time.
The Brighton Inc2rporation Bill passed through com-
mittee.

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place, Walwortb, John B. Ingle, 31.,.`1" We 11,..°T.p/OP
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Patrick Grant, Esq., formerly of Rade°. ' 1080
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Lord rALm..-E-4,,,:r0s gave :,otice tiTht on:Tlitirsa*
next lie should' tanVe tha7t'tl3s orders of the-day-15 rtiiist.'
poned until after the discussion of the motion of the
right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks.
The bowie adjourned at a quarter before one.