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London, England, 1821-02-04 00:00:00

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HOUSE OF LORDS,
_ WIIINESDAY. lAN. Si. .
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The I.OaD CHANCELLOR attended the Howe, and
heard an appeal argued by Counsel.
On the motion of the Earl of SHA FT ESRURY, it was
ordered that uu petitions fur private bills be received after
the ISt h April.
Ttraza TRADR.LOrd GRANVILLE presented a pe-
tition numerously signed by persons concerned in commerce,
praying the removal of restrictions on foreign trade.
After a few observations from the Morquis of Lansdowne,
the petition was laid on the bible.
YIIURSDAY, Fri. 1.
The House met at an early Iwur, but no public business
was done before five o'clock.
NAPLES.—The Earl of LIVERPOOL laid on the table
a copy of certain despatches communicated to Foreign
Powers.—The Noble Earl stated, that this return was
made pm-swim to addrass voted yesterday. He then
moved that the same be printed. Ordered.
Lord HOLLAND said, he could not ■void feeling a
little Inquisitive, notwithstanding the explanation given
to the question of a Noble E irl un R former 'night. 'flue
Pipers which the Noble Lord had just laill'on the table
referred to a subject on which no less depended than the
national welfare, peace and happiness of mankind. On
■ subject of such importance the Noble Earl would no
doubt excuse any apparent pertinacity. lie understood
the paper on the table to be a detail of participatinu in
all Treaties made by the Allied Powers, and a refusal to
'auction the principles on which war against Spain and
Naples was to be carried on. In that view, lie was de-
shuns of asking the Noble Earl whether the said Paper
had been officially communicated to the Government of
Naples and Stiehl, as well as the Governments of other
States in Europe?
The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that lie had no
hesitation in stating, that the paper laid before the Howie
bad been communicated to all his Majesty's missions at
all the States of Europe, and it had even been sent to the
Brazils.
The House then adjourned to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
WHIMEIWAY, JAN. 31.
Mr. FREEMANTLE gave notice, that on Tuesday
Next he shonld move for a Committee to inquire into the
stale of the supply of water fur the metropolis.
The following Petitions were then presented, praying
that the Queen's name might be restored to the Liturgy,
an inquiry into the Milan commission, the dismissal of his
Majesty's Ministerl,Blc.
Rielinsond, Yorkshire—city of York—county of Dur-
ham—and the Odd Fellows of Invernessand Inverkeithing.
—Severally read, and ordered to be printed.
A similar Petition was also presented from St. Giles,
Camberwell.—Ordered to lie on the table.
PARLIAMICNTARY REFORM.—Mr. WYVILL presented
32 Petitions from York, severally signed by 20 persons
each, in favour of Parliamentary Reform. He hail had
the Petitions in his possession forsome time, but he hoped
they had not suffered by the delay, especially since there
had lately been 310 reasons in favour of Parliamentary
Reform. (Cheers.) 'Fite state of the representation was
not what it ought to be. (Hear.)
Mr. LAMBTON (Mr. Hoblionse haying asked the
question) stated, 'het he did not propose to bring forward
the question of Parliamentary Reform till after that
regarding the Queen was disposed of; but he named
Teeaday, April 10, for bringing forward that question.
Mr. P. GRENFELL said, that during twenty years he
had iesisted Reform, and should do so till lie understood
the changes that were required. That House, lie had
thought, represented the sense of the great body of the
people; and he had also thought that it was controuled
b public opinion. He confessed, that after the vote of
of Saturday morning his opinions were considerably
changed ;—(eheers)—that vote he did not deem to lie in
venison with the sense and feelings of the country. (Loud
cheers.) He now hoped that some moderate reform
would be proposed, which a moderate man could support.
(Continued cheers.)
Mr. PHILLIPS said, that unless some reform took
Flare, he apprehended the most fearful consequences.
Mr. S. WORTLEY believed that the vote of the House
was not in contravention of the voice of the country, but
he did think that the question regarding the Queen ought
to be set at rest—that she ought no longer to be pew-
gutted. (Cheers.) But that vote resulted from a change
of Ministers not being desired to make way for the gen-
tlemen opposite—for those persons had not the confidence
of the country. (Hear.)
Mr. BARING observed, that a curious mode of com-
plimenting Ministers had been selected. What! were
there no persons in this great country who could carry on
the government as well as certain persons now in office ?
It was a gross calumny on the country to say so mach.
—As to the question of reform, he was not for any
considerable alteration; but if the House should
not now do something to skew that it sympathized with
the country, it would have done more to procure its own
rondeineation than had been accompli-lied by all the
demagogues who had ever spoken. (Cheers.)
Sir R. WILSON looked at the rejection of the tame
of the Queen as the act of Ministers, and thought it would
have been restored but for them. How, then, could the
Ministers merit support?
Mr. BUTTERWORT H had voted for the motion on
Saturday, because he thought the rejection of the name
an unjust act. And as honesty was the best policy, lie
thought in the end justice would have been found to be
the best policy. (Hear, hear.) He hail voted firms dif-
ferent motives than those described by the member fur
Yorkshire.
Sir F. BLAKE said, that the proceeding was arbitrary
and he much feared that Ministers were blindly pro-
moting revolution. A wrong had been done, and redress
ought to be granted. The aliui:ters had disturbed the
tranquillity of the country, and he apprehended that the
proceedings would affect the stability of the country. A
palace ought to be granted at once to her Majesty ; her
Hanle ought to he restored to the liturgy ; justice must
be done, or the coniitry wontal not be at rest.
Mr. CURW EN said, he hoped the Chancellor of the
Exchequer would see the propriety of relieving the ferm-
i s 1101 U the lAA on rgriculrural horses.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, at the
epiesaut u.omrot, twe outlet stood him. to say) could not
pl'ulitie any leiter m that paiticolar claw
Mr. IIt.,NNETT psi:stela:it • Pctitiou trum Stamford,

Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved fur leave to tiring lu a
Bill to exclude the Borough of Grampeund from the
Elective franchise, and to enable the Borough of Leeds,
in lieu thereof, to rcluru Members, to Parliausenr.—Leaeo
given.
yarsesstow molt Tun Quagn.--Lord CASTLEREAGH
moved that the Hums should take into consideration that
part of his Majesty's Speech which related to the making
provision for the Queen.
Just as his Lordship submitted the motion.
Mr. BROUGHAM lose and stated, that he had a Message
to deliver to the House Roils her Msjerty. lie then read the
follow Message :
C•1110L1 IL—Tbe Queen having learned that the
House of Comnsoas has appointed this day fur taking into
consideration the part of the King's most gran ious Speech
which relates to her, deems it necessary to declare, that she
is duly sensible of his Majesty's ColljelCelk4loll in recommend.
lug an arrangement respecting het to the attention of Par-
liament. She is aware that this recommendation must be
understood as referring to a provision for the support of her
estate and dignity ; and from what has lately lisssed, she is
apprehensive that such a provision may be smatcompanieit
by the possession of her rights and privileges in the ample
measure wherein former Qreeits Consort, her Royal prede.
cessors, have been wont in times past to enjoy them.
" It is far from the Queen's inclination needlessly to
throw obstacles in the way of it settlement which she desires
in common with the whole country. and which she feels per-
suaded the best iuterests of all parties equally require; and
being most anxious to avoid every thing that might create
irrit ition, she cautiously abstains from any observation
upon the um-sampled predicament iu which she is placed,
hut she feels it due to the House and to herself respectfully
to declare, that she perseveres in the resolution of declining
any arrangement while her stains continues to be excluded
fruin the Liturgy.
" Brandenburgh House, Jan. 31, Hall."
The readiag of this Message was followed by contihued
cheers.
On the Question being put a second time, for taking into
consideration that part of the King's Speech relating to the

slums,
Mr. WESTERN rase amidst loud cries of " hear, hear."
Ile declared that if the communication bad not been muck
(ruin her Majesty, he should have opposed the motion. Ile
them generally adverted to the existing distress, and recum•
mended the adoption of some measure for reducing the ex
pendi Lure of the empire. From this subject he passed on to
the treatment which the Queen had experienced; and re-
probated the conclact of the Minister, who, at the very mu:
mem that he declared the Queen to he an ridultrese,was ready
to make provisson.—(Loud cries of hear.)—llid what hart
occurred in the other House justify him in saying that the
Queen had committed adultery 1 (Ilear.) Would not that
be a libel out of the House which the Minister had declared
openly in the Howe? Ile could not consent to the vote of
a single shilling while this scandal hurl; over the object of
this utlecied liberality. Ile concluded by muviag the pre-
vious questimi.
Lord CAS I LEREAGII said, that certainly her Majesty
would have an undoubted right to .bstain from taking any of
the public money, after Ministers had acted iii compliances
with his Mujesty'a wishes, by proposing a prOVISIOII fur fiCr•
The KinA, tie assured the House, never had it in contempla-
tion to visit upon the unfortunate and illustrious individual
alluded to any thin;; of punishment in the pecuniary way.—
(A laugh, and cries of hear !) When the House made a grout
it was not to her Majesty, or to any other subject they made
it, but to the Crown, and tier Majesty could only receive it
from the Crowe. Of course it would be in the Queen's
power to refuse to take any thing from the Crown, a line of
conduct which she might adopt, as soon as it would suit her
Majesty's convenience. The Queen was, he regretted to
say, travelling every day into cuu,titutiuual errors. (A
laugh, and cries of hear, bear, front both sides of the Ilease.)
She seemed to be aiming at erecting a great power, inde-
pendent of the Constituted Authorities (Load cries of Hear !
from both sides), and appeared aimiumi to dispute the al-
legiance to the Crown. (Ironical cries of Hear from the
Opposition, and cheers front the Ministerial beaches.)—lle
had heard every whete of a new title which nits put upon
the people of ibis country—they were culled" her Majesty's
people, her Majesty's subjects."—(Cries of "Order, order,"
and„ Chair," which lasted some moments.)—The 11,,use
was in the greatest agitation.
Mi. WE'I'HERELL started up to speak to order. He
understood the Noble Lard to allude to him, as one who
called the people "her :Majesty's subjects,"—(No,
from the monsters, and cries of Chair.)
Lord CASTLEREAGH again ruse, but there were
de:diming cries of Chair and Order.
Mr. HUME called upon the noble Lord (Castlereagh)
to state to the House whether meant whet lie seal or whe-
ther he said what he meant ?—(Cries ut Order, Order, and
Chair.)
The SPEAKER interfered, and declared that Mr.
Home was at all events extremely out of order.
Mr. HUME declared that Lord Castlereagh was de-
cidedly disorderly in attrilouting to the Queen that of
which he was incapable. 'Die noble Lord had been dis-
orderly in saying that her Majesty was travelling into con-
stitutional errors, and in ins 1111 l uting that she encouraged
the people to consider themselves tier subjects in mina
distinction to the established authorities recognised by
the constitution. The noble Lurd ought to state his
audio! ity.
Lurd CAS'ILEREAGH disclaimed any idea of alluding
to Mr. Wetherell im the course of his observations; but
deprecated the course taken by Mr. Hume in the debate.
The true English of her Majesty's message, which had
been just delivered, was, that lie should not acquiesce in
any measure fur restoring the nation to a state of peace,
unless every thing she demanded was acceded to. (Laud
cries of Hear, and symptoms of great agitation in the
House.) If such a desperate course could find advocates,
if men could be found desperate enough to advise and
support a system of this nature, what security could [hoe
he for the permanence of tranquillity in this tuition i He
fur one should, with all his might, stand by the estas
blisked authorities : be should support, in opposition to
any other power, the authority of George the Fourth, and
he would not hear that authority dictated to by any indi-
vidual.

Mr. TIERNEY defended the conduct of those who
had advised the Queen, since her arrival in this country,
and declared that her Majesty's conduct had been, smiler
all the distressing circumstances ut her situation, must
singularly calculated to do her service in the minds of a
11111114111 e, geneions, and independent nation. He particu-
larly dwelt upon the discretion which marked her con-
- duet, in sendiag to the House a eta, 4111illOUS rejection
of auy pecuniary provision. if bet Majesty tad not

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