The National Register.
London, England, 1820-10-23 00:00:00

No. 1,275.—V0t. XIII.]

3Jmperial Vartiament.

HOUSE OF Lonns.
TWELFTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE.
MONDAY, OCT. 16.
At twenty minutes past tea Counsel were called to the bar.
Mr. BROVGH4T.I rose to address Mei-louse. He de-
clared, that before the cross-examination of the witness
Pomi should commence, it was considered by her Ma-
jesty's Counsel indispensably necessary that they should
be informed precisely who was the ads erse party in this
a se. The snore he reflected upon the nature of these
extraordinary proceedings, the more was he convinced of
the necessity of being clearly itifortswd upon that subject,
•therwise the diffictiltirs, which were accumulating ra-
pidly, on all sides, would be increased beyond all possi-
bility of removal.

Lord CALTHORPE expressed a wish In know, for the
purpose of having a clear understanding upon the point,
Wills which nofuture plestion should interfere, who was
Banally the prosecutor upon • this case ? To bins it was
quite evident that there was a distinction between being
• Minister fur the King and a 3linister fur the State, in a
legal point of view ; and he was surprised that his Noble
)'s irnd (Lord Liverpool), whose condone hail drawn down
the approbation even of those to whom he was politically
opposed, bad not at a former part of these proceedings
rendered it unnecessary to put the gin stion. Ile had seen
It exemplified in the einiduct of the Noble Lord ; there
existed the distinction to which lie ethnics' between the
Minister of the Crown as a part of the State, and a Ali-
nister of the King individually. If be were not correct in
this statement, he hoped to be corrected by souse Noble
Lord of more legal and pat liamentary knowledge.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, lie had some difficulty
in stating what was required ; but he wondered the roes.
lion had not been mentioned its an (smiler stage of the
proceedings. There certainly was nothirg mysterious in
the proceedings. lie had, on the 7th of June, laid ass tlie
table, by command of leis Majesty, certain papers retails e
to the condact of her Majesty white Paint ess of Wales.
He proposed that they should be refei tett to a Secret
Committee, and many Noble Lot as thought it the limy of
the Earentive Go% el Itlllent to introduce a Bill on the sub-
ject, lie presented other paper.; they were referred to
a Secret Committee; a Repot I was made, and a Bill was
broiled in. for lie (Lord Liverpool) was sespotioi-
ble. In this there was not
The alarquis of LANSDO N agreed with the state-
ment of the Noble Edit apposite, that the House were
now enttrialtsitig the Bill. on his suggestion, and that, for
the purpose of itistitutieg the inquiry sought for, the
House hail created the party at the bar, by appointing the
Attorney and Solicitor Generals to appear its Iseliale of
the Bill; lint she Counsel for her Majesty haul entered
upon a course of evidence, the object 01 whit Is was to
establish the existence or a einisiiiiat.y for the summit:it:no
of perjury iii imprint of the pi °scent sum. In pr uvii.g this
they bad 10 prove au agency, and how 11011:4 au a „trial he
proved before they knew who was the penciled? Ilis
rdship conceived, therefore, that tile House weir
bound, and should have felt is due to their owls interests,
to the interests of justice and of Ii Ol
the letters of Col. Brown as related to the absiroutien of
astelli should have been called ter, and that u 1 s. Powell
should have been compelled to produce it.
The Eat! of CAIINARVON directed the attention of
their Lent:Mips to that pate of the ease which acts I led to
Cat Isi One as illustrating stiongly the necessity of a satis-
factory ansuer being given to the ipiestross pot by Ilse
Counsel rile her Majesty. The whom ut that part of Ilse
ease depended torn; the testimony of one wtutcss win
had, at the request ()lone petty German Valenta's., tutu
examined by smother, and compelled to come over to ;lir
her testimony. 'fir aceesling aizainst tier 3lajesty, dis-
graceful as it was in every point of slew, she'd sit Ge r-
niabiaed, that the Id lisp (meld to know %shills( r it comes
irons the constitutional advi•Cls at Ike Kiln; tit I:11141,111d.
'or front the aIIVIrrIS of the Kim; of
bear!) Whist would tiny think es 'itch a Cs:MIMI libel vu
the character oh a defines less woman and a ; of .i,i
inquity gone into for 1,1 Ulliel' pntpuise bun In. t. i• the
character of all injured and persecuted ?
( Hee r, hear, heat!)
The a itness Pupa was now recalled, and cross
ea; ed by the Attorney Geiseial.
Po aaa i , you have •tated that yon it sided in a house at the
Balunta. Is that house vow called lint Vlll.l Brig:lll4i i
Ye•, at pit sell it is wilt 41 tt,e lt:•rgasui.
M lieu did you last see IS, —1 du 1101 trite ; col-
lees I it must have been lit Aaemt 1 think.
Oat you see bias the slay y !et; the Villa Brigand ?
I .lid nut.
How lung Isefore?—l left the on the 20111
of Septeinuer. I saw him iii A egtist, but Idu not 1.11()w
the slay.
you swear that you did nut Septeinlieri
—I Callbul swear. It litlist base been WI, I I till tit
August, or the begiiiiiing of September. I have nu Oil-
motandum. I cannot tell.