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THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

Coedit you see whether Ile rgami had his clothes on.or
' oft ? —No ; but I could see the arms were white. %Viten
I tottered 1 saw that Bergaini had his arm round the neck
of the Princess; and Witeil I entered, the Priocess let the
arm fell.
Was tlte•white you saw a part of a shirt, or of an arm?
- do out know.
What dill the Prineess do when you came into the room?
- jumped tip and was frighteneil.l
After !nether questioning as to this point, a Gentleman
said the witness said the Pi incess '• got tip."
Some ilisrussion lore took place, and .11r. Brougham said,
the Queeu's interpreter net being present, a gentleman trails•
Iced the %surds. That geittlenisto did not wish its such a
business to appear officious.
The Attorney-General here, in the course of some con-
versation upon the translation of the Genoa'', seemed to
question the ACCoiracy of the Interpreter.
The eXalltillittion was resumed.
Repeat what yon said the Princess did upon your coming
into the room sins frightened--she jumped up—she
had risen.
Had she jumped up in 3 our presence?—Yes. When I
entered the Pt Owes% get up, and I retired.
The Bishop of LANIIAFt said, the luterpn•ter had not,
in putting the question to the a ituess, given an accurate Ger-
man mewling to the Enal.sh words.
Lord HOLLAND said, the House ought not, particularly
on so iitip.:rtant It Cube, to adopt the trstusla ' of• any per-
son, iii or out of the House, who was not aww•n
Tilh female witness had stated, that on entering a room
its which were the Prioress and liergioni, she saw the Queen
sitting tin the bed side ss ha her urn round Bergami. The
Interpreter detailed that the Princess " had started up," on
hick sonic difference originated in the House, it being
deemed, that if the Princess •' had started ties " how could
she be sitting at the bed side with her arm round liergami.
Mr. Brougham begged that the further remota:lnm' of this
witness might bs postponed till to-morrow.
This was acquiesced in ; the House, however, requiring
some other witnesses to be called.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL appealed to the House,
whether he ost,glit to be required to call another witness be-
fore he Lad concluded the extimitianon of that one now
before the H ouse.—( I lesr, hear!)
The LORD CH 1N( ELLOIt —The intention of calling
another witness has mg been abandoned, suggested is hither
it would not be comenient to adjourn to-morrow at hoer
o'clock.
A Noble Lord said lie wished they would adjourn every
day at four u'elitek.—( Hear and laughter.)
After some further conversation the House adjourued soots
after four o'clock.
SAIVROLY, AUGUST, 26.
The LORI) CHANCELLOR took his seat at within
five tontines of ten, and the Bishop of Winchester read
prayers.
Lord Sherbourn and Lord Sondes were excused on ac-
count of indisposition.
At a quarter past ten Counsel were called in.
Chat les Constant, a German Interpreter fur the Queen,
was then sworn.
The Interpreter, who attended yesterday for the King,
again attended this day.
Lord E.RSK INF: said, it was a rule of the Courts below,
that the cross.examination should immediately follow the
direct examination. He was of opium), airfoil., that, in
justice to the Queen, the a hole proceedings shouid be
abandoned, until fit opportunities of entering into a cross-
examination should occur.
Lord LIVERPOOL bad no objection to an adjournment
fur the pu►pose of coming to souse definite rule.
The LORD CHANCELLOR stated, that it was the wish
of the House that the Couesel tor the Bill should stair, if in
the course of these proceedings. they wished to di part from
thy• usual course of cross-exuntiont ion, and in a hat is ay they
wished such deviation to be made. The Counsel for the
Queen would also be heard in objection to such departure
from the orditiar) com•se observed in the Courts below.
Mr. Brougham urged with touch force and eloquence, the
difficulties under which he laboured in this case. He was
boned, by his professional duties, to be ready at all times,
and not to complain that he was taken unawares, to state
whatever he conceived for the interest of has client, nod for
the ends of public justice. In ordinary cases, where there
were rules to go by, precedents to quote, and analo-
gies to guide him, he should feel ashamed to confess he was
unprepared at any time; but now he thought it neces-
sary to state that, for the interests of justice—for the inter-
ests of his client—the sue of which it was his duty to attend
to, and the other the duty of their Lordships to guard,
that it was hard, to say nothing stronger, that he
should be called upon tip argue against proceedings as aovel
as these its the present case. lie thought that a Counsel,
without acknowledging incompetence, might state the diffi-
cult es against., which he had to contend. He (Mr.
Brougham) had a solemn responsibility. Although the lead-
iug Counsel, he was yet only one of six of her Majesty's
legal udviser., and its u case of MI much delicacy
and importance, he could nit, a ithont an opp.ur luuNy of
consulting them, take upon himself the responsibility of
ansorring fusilier. They might doubt whether he should
make an) statement at all ; or whether he should again call
the at tendon of their Lordships to I hat refusal of sitnesal ;
the refusal of metitionieg time or plat e, when or where the
alleged acts were conmtieteu, ss Melt had led to all the pre-
sent emharrrassment. The romequetices of that decision were
irremediable. And althousti tle•ir Lordships could not
entirely retrace their steps, tie suggested whether they might
nut yet grant a hat ought never to have been termed, now
that they saw the difficulties in which that refusal hail in-
volved them.
Lord LIVER POOL wished to know o het her the Learned
Counsel was now prepared to argue the question, or wished
for further time ? for it %stolid be tin untecessat•y detention
of their Lordships to hear tine half of au argument bow, it.
the) a ere to re MOM' it on !timidity.
Itlr.Broughain oil) wished to slate the extreme difficulties
under which he laboured, iu miming against proceediags so
anomalous.
'1•l:e LORD CHANCELLOR suggested, that it would be
best that the If nose shousd Ito* adjourn.— Adjourned accord-
nsly at half-post one o'clock.

HOENE OF COMMONS.
MONDAY, AI GUsT 21.
The SPEAKER took the Chair slimily before font.
o'clock ; and lie afterwards iiiieimed the House, that
Henry (irattan, E,q. complaining of an iinilue election
for Dublin, and Mr. Ready for Colchester, had tailed to
enter into the segiii,i'e lecoLaiirances. Order for taking
the Pc;ilion into conaideration according') dircharged.

PSOCCEDINni OF THE LORDS.—Lord CASTLEREAGH,
with the view of determining the propriety and the period
of further adjournment, moved that a Committee be ap.
pointed to examine the Lards' Journals as to any proceed-
ings relative to the conduct of the Queen.
Mr. TIEItNEY said, lie should not oppose this motion,
but he protested against suet: proceeding being construed
into :approbation of the mode of trial.
Lord CAY4LEREA(III observed, that no such acqui-
escence could be inferred from approving of this motion
--(hear hew )
Com 'tire appointed, and directed to report forthwith.
111 r. 11.tOGI)i'N presented the Report of the Commit-
tee *appointed to tocanrine the Lords' Journals, wide', bet
forth a hat proceedings the other House had taken re-
specting the Bill of Pains and Penalties.
Tun KING'S 111 EIVS.—AI r. 11011110 USE presented a
Pctiiion from 170 Prisons in the neighbourhood of Char.
nig Cross, Leicester Fields, &c. complaining of th se-
vere injuries and losses sustained by them by the closing
of t lae King's Mews. Read, and ordered to he printed.
AGRIUULTUILAL Ai/IMAGE. Sir J. NEWPORT en.
(voiced whether it was true that the ports were open for
he introduction of foreign grain by small an arrangement,
of the returns as to make the prceeeding depend on the
fractional part of a pettily ?
Mr. F. ROBINSON replied, that the statements re-
specting certain rowels wet e not correct.
A Wolin N M eST—THEQUEIOI.—Lord CASTLEREAGH
then moved, that the House at its rising adjourn to Sep-
tember IV, Monday four weeks. At that time they might
be able to judge when it would be requisite to meet fur
the purpose of proceeding, in the event of any measure
coining front the other House; at least a fortnight ought
to be given, to afford time for the arrival of Members, as
the fullest possible attendance would be desirable.
Mr. TIERNEI said, lie understood that on September
IS, they were wily to meet to name another day to assem-
ble to proceed with any matters that might be brought
before them.—(hear, bear ! )

Lord F. OS itolo. E said he should use every possible
effort to prevent the Bill from polluting even the threshold
of that House.—(Hear ! )—But should such a Bill be on-
happily received, no power on earth should induce hint to
attend and witness such mockery of justice; rather Iliac
attend he would vacate his scat. As a Court of Judica •
titre, that House had " damned" itself—he was forced to
use a stronger expression—by passing the Grenville Act;
therefore he stud that the Bill, if entertained there,
would be " a mockery of justice." With these impres-
sions on his mind, he moved, as an amendment, that au
Andress be pi esented to the. King to prorogue the Par.
liament till it should be deemed expedient to re-assemble
both Houses fur the dispatch of public business.
Mu. HOBHOUSE seconded the amendment for an
Address. sic would do any thing to get rid of the molt.
strolls measure that was a tw degrading the House of
Lords. He did so too front other motives—to escape front
all that military array which hedged round the House,
and which appeared even in the neighbouring apart-
' mem.

Mr. TIERNEY did not she how they could very well
agree to this Address, since the measure complained of
was not before their House.

Lord F. OSBORNE observed, that he did not wish to
press his ansentlineinit to a division, as some lion.
Ft lends seemed to be against it; he had proposed it un
constit alieate' grounds.
Lord A. HAMILTON declared, that he had the most
insuperable objection to the prosecution under any eir-
cmustaeces.especially when he recollected liowithe Queen
had been pursued, not for six years, but twenty six years.
He therefore thought it was impossible to do justice to the
Queen. She had been abandoned at home, and vilified
abroad ; lie protested against the proceeding, on the
giound of the condnet and treatment which had been ob-
served towards her. The Bill was proceeding in defiance
of public opinion, and without atforeLng to the Qnern
those means of defence which lie deemed requisite, and
which the law warranted, amongst other thingsrecri-
mination.
Lord CASTLEREAGH deprecated a partial discussion
of this important question, and a full discussion of it was
impossible, as the facts were not before them. To agree
to the Address would no: lie to promote justice, but to
submit to intimidation.—(Hear, hear.)—lt would be a
base surrender to those efforts to create a flame in the
country. The best way of restoring tranquillity would be
to let the facts transpire; they would, by being prove
or disproved eventually bling the public mind to its pie).
per state. If it wet e desired to keep the country lit feat,
no better mode could now be suggested than to quash the
proceedings. As to the military array, nothing mete %%OS
done oow than took place even in the case of Mr. Hast-
ings; and it was not the act of the Executive, but was lit
consequence of an Address CEOIII the Lords.
Mr. WILBERFORCE repeated his regret that the wish
of Reel louse had not beets stieces.tial with the Quern, and
still depluted that it was deemed necessary to proceed.—•
But should the measure come to that House, he
that its consideration would be interminahle. (Hear !)
A debate might be raised en every question that was asked.
Mr. BROUGHAM said lie would have re•ataiated silent,
had he not teat eel that it might he tniseonstined. He bail
cute ealed the House to pause before it was too late to stop
—by Mr. Wilberfuree's 1111 l tion, that '• pause" hod bet ii
one' wards gained : but now it was too late to thinL of
pausing. The period had gone by. The ease had been
opesied, and a ith a degree of peculiarity most C1111S11i1:11-
1111,1 and that witness had beets examined who was to
prove ;ditto:4 the whole of their ease. lie had lint !teem
cross-examined. Besides, all these mat lets had be•ett
published to the would. In the fettling, cesiipa tali% t.y
toiling case of Ltd Melville, j.tiblieatien had t• 1111 f to
itihited till the case was !emit:ate., ; belt hen's, tin ;slot
purpose lie knew not, the publication moraine alter mu:fl-
ing WaS permitted, this was a gross and ontiageon.
injustice loaatde the Quivem—not ou the pat t or tln it
Lot ilskips, for they aere all wisdom and lee :he nie.i;it
it was calculated to produce stick rib el. It tsar not so
yet. But to stop the proceedings now would be a crying
injustice towards her Majesty, and he therefore bulled
that the House would nut cadet tain the address.

The anw iiihnee! was negatived without a disi iot ; flo•
main tplemtion cal Clot ; and the Ilonee it(ljouriteil to
September I.

An embargo was had on all vessels in the barl:ou
of Palermo, and the oars of the ruw-boats taken
away. The crews of many of those vessels werz
thrown into pa ism.