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THE NATIONAL REGISTER

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quence of the repeal of certain taxes, he did not expect here-1
after that the amount of certain duties would be more thun they
at present were ;—if the contrary were the result, it would in-
deed he a subject of just congratulation.—The recapitulation of
the customs' produce to Jan. 5, 1822, was as follows :
Consolidated Customs ii,1n0.70,2
customs. Isle of Mon 13,763
. • • . .
Canal and Duck Duty • • • • • 26,051
Quarantine Duty 15,269
1,143,651
Surplus Annual Duties
--s---

Tad Customs to Consolidated Fund . •
Annual Duties to pay Bills . .

. 5.361.3 V.
5,773.706

Total Customs

And fer the Excise for die same period
Consolidated Excise • • • •
British and Foreign Spirits, Vial
Surplus Annual Duties . • • •

Total to Consolidated Fond .
Annual l/utia to pay off Bills .
War TAXCS • • • •

• X21,314,C.R2
1211,928
1,754,101

: . 23,193,711
591,201
. . 24(11.51,5

Total Excise

of
Ile concluded with moving a resolution, that a SUM
7,000,0001. be granted by way of annuity.
Mr. Maberley, Mr. Ellice, Mr. Ricardo, and Mr. flume,
made some observations on the subject of the sinking Natl,
lamenting that the public still had to pay so much toward
maintaining what was so inefficient towards the avowed object.
Mr. CALCRAF f observed, that according to the financial
arrangements of the Clisneellor of the Exchequer, to gain tile
advantage of transitory relief that was gained, tie public were
saddled with an additional expeuce of 70,0001. for " manage-

ment."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted that
there undoubtedly wits the additional charge that bad been ad-
verted to ; but be maintained that the advantages to the public
would be more than tantamount to the expence.
The several resolutions were then put and agreed to, till they
came to that granting the lottery.
Mr. W. SMITH spoke of the extensive establishnivit of the

lottery.
The House divided on the Resolution. The numbers were
—Ayes, 74—Noes, 34—Majority in favour of the lottery, 40.
The other re,olution, were agreed to. Report to-morrow.
Mr. NMI. moved, that the llouse go into a committee on

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the Alien Bill.
Mr. HOIMOUSE opposed the motion. Some pretext hind
been urged as reasons for asking for the former bill; but this
was required as a measure of confidence. An to revonsibility
it was nothing. The hon. gent condemned the measure alto-
gether as unconstitutional and inipist, aud as intended only to
forward the views of other govetinnents„ and to enable them to
restrain the march of freedom in the world. lie concluded by
declaring lie would give the measure his decided opposition in

every stage.
Mr. F. ROBINSON Winded the measure as necessary to
the safety and tranquillity of the country ; be denied that it was
intended to promote, by the passing of this bill, the views of any
foreign power against liberty. It was a necessary measure,
and his Majesty's government were responsible for the proper
and temperate exercise of the power thus plated in their hands;
lie contended that, even under the provisions of Magna Charts,
although free egress and regress were given to Miens, yet they
must be taken to enjoy this liberty under the restraint and con-
trout of the Crown. He declared he considered the measure
necessary, and gave it his support.
A long debate followed. The }loose divided.—For going
into a committee, 142; against it, 60-3ltiority, fur the CUM-
s2.
Mr. 110B110IISE then moved to fill up the blank with the
wont " one" year.
Mr. P. MOORE proposed that the Chairman should report
progress—fur the motion, '47—against it; 141—Majority, 107.
The committee then di% bled on the question for tilling up
the blank with the word" two." For the motion, I`2s—against
it, 55—Majority for " two years," 70.
The committee then divided upon the question, that the
Chairman do report progress, when the numbers were—For
reporting progress, 37—Against, 141—Majority, 107.
Alsecood division took place while we were evcluded from the
gallery, upon an amendment, that the duration of the bill he li-
mited to sir weeks after the meeting of Parliament ne‘t session.
Upon this the numbers were—fur the anieudiecut, 55 —against
it, 125—majority, 70.
On our return to the gallery we found
Mr. WETHERELL opposing an amendment to the pre-
amble (moved by Mr. Brougham.)
After a few words from Mr. Peel, Alderman Renate, and
Mr. IL Martin, against the amendment, and from Mr. Mendell,
Mr. W. Smith, Mr. Denman, and Sir It. Wilson, in support of
it, the amendment was negatived without a division.
The house having resumed, the report was ordered to be
received on Friday.
Mr. WESTERN, in illusion to a notice of motion of his
respecting the currency, which stood for Wednesday, observed
that it was his intention hi submit a series of resolutions on that
day, for the purpose of having them printed, and in the bands
of 'brushers.
Mho Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he could have no
objection to Hort course.
The other orders were then disposed of. and the House ad-
journed at two o'clock.
TUF.SDAY, JULY 2.
The Salt Tax Repeal Bill was read a second time. Ordered
to he committed tip-morrow.
'the Salt Duties (Ireland) Bill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed to-morrow.
The Craud Jury Presentments Bill was read ;Ithird time and

34,234

34.234

passed.
The Stamp Duties Bill was re-committed. Several amend-
melds were proposed by Mr. Lushington and agreed In. 'I In.
report was received, and ordered to be taken into further con-
sideration ou Monday nett.
Mr. KENNEDY moved the third reading of the Scotch
Juries Bill.—Read a third time and passed.
Mr. W. SMITH moved fur return., of the sum' paid at the
Stamp Office by the severakinsurtioce alive', distinguishing the
olliees.—Ordered.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved tl.e
second reading of the Small Notes Bill.
Mr. HUM E was against this bill, because he thought it went
to et tend the protection to country notes against their bring
lu.vuhle in ca,h.
31r. JAMES should take the sense of the House on this bill,
as its principle was to Whig them to au everlasting eye em of
paper-money.
Mr. CURWEN thought the bill would he useful in the
country. ; the pvoplc there preferred paper to 4old.
fir. JAMES persisted iu his oppusiUuml.ecausc the bill W4l

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calculated to perpetuate the paper system, and to restore hang-
ings for forgeries.
The House divided. The numbers were -For the second
reading, d7--against it, 1 -Majority in f 'your of the bill, 13.
Mr. LENNARD presented u petition from the malt:stets of
Ipswich, against the Excise Regulatious Bill. Ordered to be
printed.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to
Mr. Curwen's inquiry, stated that he proposed to limit the du-
ration of the lower salt duty for two yearn till April, trig.). Ile
thought, from the favourable aspect of the finances, that by
11525, the sum which the reduced tax would produce, 100,0001.
could he spared.
Mr. BENNET presented a petition from various trustees of
benefit societies, praying to be exempted, as usual, from the
operation of the stamp ditties.
Mr. WODEHOUSE moved for leave to bring in a bill to
repeal an aid of the present session, regarding licenceil malt-
110tHri, each malting warehouse being made subject to a licence
of 11. 10s. The bill hail, lie declared, been .• smuggled"
through both Houses of Parliament.
Mr. W. SMITH NeCl4.llelt the motion.
Mr. uiti(HT supported the motion. One licence hereto-
fore covered all the malting Mouses ; now each house was to
he licensed ; and when the bill was brought in he understood
( from 31r. Lushington) that it contained no material alteration.
A practice hail grown up of bringing in bill, lute at night. No
description of them was given, uud accident uuly frequently
brought them to
Mr. IiOCKART also censured this practice, and condemned
the mode of hurrying such bills forward without having thou
printed. He should move that it he a standing order that no
bill respecting taxes should be read a second time, without
havinge previously been printed. Ile ,also spoke of the hard-
ships under which the barley trade already laboured. An acre
producing four quarters, was taxed to the extent of 131. The
taxation proved an obstacle to the consumption.
'I he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted, that
many bills were passed without having that attention which they
merited; but the state of business rendered it impossilile that
it should be otherwise, when so much of their time was taken
up with extraneous discussion. lie was willing that die clause
iu epiestion should be repealed.--(11ear! )
Mr. SMITH (of Lincoln) said several hills had at different
times been passed—all of them coining from the treasury—
which the House Lad known nothing about till they became
law.
Mr. LUSHINGTON observed that the hill was before the
House a month. Ile had not moved the printing of it, because
there were but four clauses in the bill.
After some remarks from • Mr. Hume, Mr. Bennet, &c. the
lion was agreed to.
AssESSED TA 'CI:S.—Mr. 110 BHOUSE rose to bring forward
Wm motion for the repeal of the. House and Window Tex. He
should, in the first place, move a resolution declaratory of the
fact, Boit the people of England were over-taxed, and that the
House mid Window Tax was not requisite to meet the props r
expenditure of the country. The Ministers had heretofore
stated, that taxes could not he reduced, and that, even if they
could, their reduction would only be productive of calamity.
They said thus much at the beginning of the Session—and vet
the country had since beheld the repeal of the Malt and Salt,
sad several other taxes ; and, what was still more remarkable,
the country had not been injured by such repeals, nor had the
Ministers abandoned their places. The Ministers on the sub-
ject of taxation seemed to think that taxes blessed those who
gave as well as those who took them. The people however hat
no occasion to lye alarmed ; and if they persevered he doubted
not that the House and Window Tax would in its turn be con-
ceded. The hon. Member then observed, that some Peti-
tioners bad drawn it VOtallari,ioll le tween a noble lord and Oily er
Cromwell. It was true both had great power, and both were
remarkable for the confusion of their ideas. The lion. Member
then contended that the preseid state of timings could not COPP.
tinue, that Dinners paid their rests out of capital ; and that
without a still more extended reduction of taxation, effectual
relief could not be expected. lle concluded with moving re-
solutions declaring that the rate of taxation now enforced was
huidensonie and oppressive ; and that there ought to be reduc-
tions of the window-tax, Sec.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the
raotion. The Ilona.: hail agreed to certain finuneial arrange-
ments ; and to agree to this motion would tend to prevent their
brine carried into effect.
Mr. 31ABERLEY supported the motion, and said lie would
support all motions for a reduction of taxes till there was a
much less extravagant expenditure.
Mr. WYNN opposed the motion, denying that the rents
were paid out of Capital; so far Dom that being the case, where
there were farms vacant, there was the greatest competition for

them.
Mr. lIUME strongly supported the motion. Ile maintained
that greater reduction were requisite, and that if the !loose
would curtail the Supplies, the Ministers would discover how
to make a diminished Revenue meet nll the useful demands of
Government. The lion. gentleman contended, that, its addition
the taxes already repealed, those now alluded In by his 11..11.
friend might also he given up. The sou relinquished tile',
would not exceed 700,09111., and lie had Mew', that 10.000,01)01.
have been given up three years ago. lie urged tho
House to deprive Ministers of this tax, and thereby force thsiii
into ecouoiny, which, without such force, they would never
adopt.
Mr. MONCK also supported the motion; though he must
say lie should consider a reduction of ten Millings per barrel on
strong beer as better calculated to relieve all classes of the COM-.
musky. A reduction of tell shillings per barrel on %ironic beer
would relieve the country to the amount of 3,000,00111. at least.
Mr. GALCKAFT was decidedly spinal doing any thing to
effect public credit, but in his opinion, to adopt the proposition
now before tl.e House would have the effect of supportin4
public credit, although, he was ready to acknowledge that to
carry the repeal of this tax into ell'eot, the Sinking Fund must
be touched.
Mr. MAXWELL supported the motion. He complained of
the weight of taxation, which drove thousands out of the
couldry.
The Mose divided—For the motion 59—against it 1
Majority ST.—Adjourned at one o'clock.
tt EIV\ESDAY. JULY S.
There being only 29 members present at four o'clock (forty
being required to be present at or before that hour to maks •
House) the Speaker declared the House to stand adjuutued till
to-morrow.

TiII'IUWAY, JULY 1.
A new writ Wilt. ordered for Wigton, in the room of Mr.
Hunter Blair, deceased.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from tortilla
freeholders of Kent, divelaitnin4 that part of the late county
petition which required the House to violate public faith.—
Ordered to be printed.

For C4l46lllr:tiOtt see page 211.)