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THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

my health I sent to her Majesty, stating that my illness was such
my semices could be no avail to her Majesty, and I begged her to
excuse me.
No question was asked by the Counsel for the Bill.
The Earl of Cr/Ur/fired sworn and examined.-1 recollect
having seen her Majesty at Naples. I arrived at Naples in the
beginning of March, kis is. Amongst her Majesty's suite were
the lion. Koppel Craven, Sir ‘Vret. Gell, and Dr. Holland. I
recollect having seen a person named Bergami there; he was, as
far as I understood, in the situation of courier—he was called the
courier. I remained at Naples three or four days. Lady Char-
lotte Lindsay was at Naples. I next saw her Majesty at Rome,
where she remained but a few days—about two days. Ido not
think that I dined with the Queen at Rome: I dined with her
once before at Naples. Ido not particularly recollect who were
present, but there were a good many English. Lady Charlotte
Lindsay dined there. Madame Falconet was there. The next
place at which I saw the Queen was at Civita Vecchia. Her
' Majesty embarked at Civitia Vecchia to go to Genoa. She was
there four or five days before she embarked. Lady Charlotte and
I resided in the same house with her Alitjesty. 'rile Master of
the house, the Machease de Lam, was invited. Madame Falco-
net had two daugntera with her, one of them was 13 years of age,
the other was younger.
His Lordship in further examination stated, that Madame Fal-
cones associated with the principal persons of the place. He be-
lieved that she had two daughters married ; one to an American
gentleman, and the other to a Mr. Potalli. These were not the
two daughters his Lordship had seen at the Queen's house at
Civita Vecchia; they were unmarried, and dined at the Queen's
table. Embarked on board the Clorinde with the Queen; Lady
Charlotte Lindsay, Madame Falconet, and her two daughters,
and Dr. Holland, were also on board. Had dined with the
Queen at Como, when flagand sat the table—slept at Como only
one night, and next day went to Milan. Paid ber Majesty a
second visit before he left the country. Did not recollect intend-
ing to remain longer at Como. Dined with the Queen on
she following Sunday at Milan. Bergami was at the table. Had
not seen her Majesty since.
The Earl of Guildford cross examined by the Attorney General.
His Lordship stated, he nad seen Bergami at the table at Civita
Vecchia, and thought he had on board the Coriarde. Lady
Charlotte Lindsay lift the Queen in May, 1817, on board the
Clorindc. at Leghorn. Her Majesty, when at the Villa &Este,
was attended by an Italian Lady, whom his Lordship understood
to be the Countess of Oldi. She spoke good Italian, with very
little of the Lombardy accent. Had seen the grounds at Villa
d'Este; had a Greek servant with him at the time. The Queen
first 'hewed the grounds to his Lordship, and afterwards lent hiw
her donkey. Left the Queen near her own door, and then went
round the grounds. Did not see tne Queen walking about the
grounds; and did not recollect seeing his servant walking there.
He nad never stated that he saw the Queen or his servants walking
near the grotto, or any other put of the grounds. Believed that
his servant was in the house at the time, His servant left hint in
May 1817.
The Attorney General asked his Lordship if he had not re-
commended his sister, Lady Charlotte Lindsay, to leave the
service of the Queen g
Mr. Brougham objected to the question, and it was over-ruled
by the Lord Chancellor.
Examined be the Peers.

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Lord Grey to Earl of Guilford.—At any time that your Lord-
ship has seen the Princess of Wales and Itergami in company.
did you observe any improper familiarity between them F No !
certainly none.
Your Lordship stated that the Countess of Oldi spoke good
Italian, with a little of the Lombardy accent. What were your
observations on her general manners )I—Her manners were per.
feedy inoffensive—very modest.
Nothing vulgar ,—No • nothi vulgar certainly. I did not
consider her as m the least vulgar in her conversation with
I Die. -
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Did you observe any difference between the manners of the
Countess of Oldi and other Italian ladies 1--I cannot say 1 did.
She did not appear to be a woman of remarkable refined man-
nets.
Lord Clenbervie met the Queen at Genoa; Lady Gleabervie
volunteered to act as Lady of the Bedchamber until the arrival of
Lady Charlotte Campbell. The beat company of Genoa fre-
quented the Queen's house, where Lord Glcnbcrvie often dined
with his Lady. Bergami was always treated as a servant, without
any undue familiarity t he behaved towards his Mistress with
becoming respect.
Mr. BROUGHAM then requested the Lords to indulge Lady
Charlotte I.indsay, his next witness, with a chair.
Lady Charlotte Lindsay was Conducted to the Bar of the
House, and accommodated with a chair. Atter her Ladyship had
been sworn, she was examined by Dr. Lushingtoo.
Did your Ladyship ever form a part of the suite of her Royal
Highness P--Yes, I did.
When did you tint enter her Royal Highness's seri ice ?—ln
the year 1808.
Did Lady Lindsay attend the Princess when the went abroad
in 1814 ?—I did.

You was one of the I.adies of the Bedchamber ?-1 was.
How far did you go with the P.incess on that journey ?-1
accompanied her Royal Highness as far a, Brunswick.
Why did you not go further ?—lt was never understood by
her Riiyal Highness or me, that I was to go further, but merely
accompany her to Brunswick.
Where did Lady Lindsay afterwards see her Royal Highness?
saw her Royal Highness at Naples, about the beginning.ot
March, Ibls.
Did you then act as Lady of the Bedchamber?—l did.
How long did you continue with her Royal Highness?-1
joined her Royal Highness the beginning of Alarch,and remained
with her Royal Highness until she left Naples. I accompanied
her to Rome, then went to Civita Vecchia. Embarked with het
on board the Clorindr, and quitted her at Leghorn.
By whom was her Royal Highness visited during her residence
at Naples?—By all persons of distinction there ; all the Neapo-
litan and other Authorities.
Will Lady Lindsay be pleased to state the names of some of
them ?—Lord and Lady Glenbtrvie, Lord and Lady Gage, Lord
and Lady Holland, Lord and Lady Clare Lord and Lady Ox-
ford, Sir William Gen, and many young Ladies..
Was your Ladyship on board the Clorfride with her Royal
Highness?-1 was.
Do you remember where she slept?—Her Royal H ghneas
slept in part of the Captainis cabin. It was divided in two.
Does your Ladyship remember any thing being said about the
cabin being divided?—Yes; I remember her !loyal Highness
expressed sonic wish to have it altered for my accommodation.
Did her Royal Highness have any diftirence with the Captain?
—No. I do not recollect any difference.
Does pour Ladyship. remember a person of the name of Ber-
gami being in the service of her Royal Highness ?-1 do.
In what situation ?—As Courier.
Had you frequent opportunities of seeing what passed between
her Royal Highness and Bergami?--I had.
How did lie conduct himself?—ln a common way.
How did her Royal Highness conduct herself ?—ln the same
manner—the spoke as a person generally speaks to a servant.
When did your Ladyship quit her Royal Highness's service ?
- Ibl7.
What was your reason for leaving her Royal Highness P—My
brother wrote to me, requesting me to return.
Has your Ladyship sten her Royal Highness since her return
to this country P—l have.
Crass examined by the Solicitor GeneraL—llow long was it
after you left her Royal Highness. that she quitted Naples?—
About Rothe days.
• HOW saucb time wee occupied rim so Naples frets Leghorn,

—We were six nights waiting for a wind. and two nights on
hoard. . _..

Your Ladyship left Leghorn and did not enter spin into the
service of her Royal Highness ?—I left. Leghorn in consequence
of a letter. . _ .

At the time you was with the Princess at Civita Vecchia, did
you see Bergami ? 1 did.
Are you able to recollect whether you saw Bergami and her
Royal Highness walking frequently together? Her Royal
Highness walked nut, and Bergami walked behind her.
Ludy Lindsay filled the came of Lady of the BedehanaberfLw.
1 did.
That office led you to her Royal Highness's bed-roomf—.
Very frequently.
At Naples?—Yes.
Was her Royal Highness always. alone on these occasions?—
Not always alone certainly ; sometimes persons were with her.
Did you teoollect on these occasions seeing Bergami with her
—1 saw her Royal Highness myself in herbed- room. We dined
in her bed-room with Bergami and William Austin; Bergami
waited on us ass servant.

Was that at Naples?—During the time I was at Naples.
Did any other person besides yourself and William Austin
dine on these occasions?—No ; 1 think none but us three
dined.
Did that happen frequently when her Royal Highness was
at Naples ?—Yes ; isisenever her Royal Highness had no set
company at dinner.
The hour of four o'clock having arrived, the House ad-
journed.
FOURTH DAY.

FRIDAY. OCT. 6.
Prayers having been read as usual, and the House
called over, an excuse was made for the non-attendance
of his Royal Highness the Duke of York, who was absent
in consequence of indisposition.
Mr. Marietti was then, on the motion of Lord LANS-
DOWN. called to the bar, and produced the letters
alluded to yesterday. Mr. Marietti now stated, that the
letter of the 16th of October did not come by the post,
but by a private hand.
Counsel were then called in, and Lady Charlotte Lind-
say, the witness under cross-examinatiou last night, when
the Hesse adjourned, was again called to the bar, and the
etweramasination resumed by the Solicitor-General.
There is a garden in the neighbourhood of Naples called
La Favourite. I walked there one day with her Royal
Highness; Bergami was with us. In our journey from
Naples to Rome, Bergami acted as courier; I thank he
also rode as courier from Rome to Civita Vecchia, but I
have not so clear a recollection of that fact. I baw a
distinct recollection of his coming op to the window of
the carriage during the journey, and her Royal Highness
giving him sonic provisions. There was a bottle at Bur-
roily banded to MM. and I think he drank it without a
glass. I cannot be quite positive whether he returned it,
but I fancy she did, hut her Royal Highness and 1 had
taken onr ref' esliment, and I cannot say whether he ra.
turned the bottle or threw it away. I have no distinct
recollection of having stated, after I had quitted her
Royal Highness, that it was a great relief to my mind
having done so. I might have said, had ►t not been for
an anxious desire to assist an individnal oat of the savings
of that service, I would have quitted it long before; bat I
do not think it was coupled wok any words expressive of
an ill opinion of the Princess.
Reexamined.—To whom was the communication al-
boded to made—To my husband, and no one else.
Had you ever any difficulty in getting your salary paid
by her Royal Highness?—'There were at one time con-
siderable arrears dne to me. I should have felt great
inconvenience in a further attendance, as I laboured
under a heavy depression of spirits in consequence of the
death of the late Lord Guildford and Lady Glenbe►vie.
I never saw myself any impropriety of conduct ou the
part of her Majesty which induced me to resign.
By Lord DONOUGHMORE.—I was at Naples twelve
days, at Rome two, at Civita Vecchia six, on board the
Clurinde three, and one day between Naples and Rome,
making together a period of twenty-four days; and dur-
ing that time I observed uo impropriety. I had not seen
any thing improper in the conduct of her Majesty myself
whilst with her, which induced me to resign, but the
reports were of so nupleasant and degrading a nature as
induced metossisli to resign.

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By Lord FAULKLANI:r.—Her Majesty was peculiarly
affable and familiar to all her servants; her manners were
very peculiar; I am not a good judge, but I think the
foreigners are more apt to converse with their servants
titan the English. 1 have observed this peculiarity of
manners on her Royal Highness's part; her Royal High-
ness appeared to talk to Bergand as she did to Siccard
and other persons in her family.
By Lord LAUDERDALE—I do not suppose I went
to her Royal Iligituess's bed MUM without being sent for;
but I did not knock at the door when I went. The ar-
rangement for any quitting her Royal Highness's service
was of my proposing. I said I hoped her Royal Highness
would permit me to embrace the opportunity of my bro-
ther's return to England to accompany hint, as 1 could
not well travel without an escort'
Lord Lando., examined by Mr. Broughain.—l was in
Italy in 181:1. Lady Lauda was with me. I was at
Naples in November. 1 frequented the society of the
Princess of Wales, and was otter at her house, twice or
thrice a week. I have dined there, and attended evening
parties. The Countess must generally went with me.
'flue company which went to her Royal Highness' was the
generality of English and Neapolitan Noblesse. I ob-
served no impropriety of conduct on the part of her Royal
Highness, or any habits on her part which rendered it
improper the Countess should visit her. Bergami was at
that time in the service oilier Royal Highness, but I saw
nothing improper in her Royal Highness's conduct towards
him. I was in June or July following at Venice, with the
Countess, when her Royal Highness was there; we re-
newed our intercourse, and I saw nothing improper here
in her conduct. I sometimes paw her Royal Highness its
her bed-room; I had a child with me. to w such her Royal
Highness took • particular fancy. I resided some time its
Italy. It is a common practice for gentlemen to be in
ladies' bed-rooms in the mot ring—l have seen many ladies
in bed of a morning—ladies of irreproachable character,
as far as I know.—(A laugh.)—Other gentlemen saw
them at the Sallie time ; it was, as tar as I can judge, the
practice.
Cross-exrimincd by the Attorney General. This was in
the year ; Bergami wits ut Venice to the capacity Of
(DUI ier. I did slot dine with her Royal II Ones& at Venice.
do not knew 1141 W how long she was it Venice.
By Lord U WAWA LL.—I du not know the names of
any ofieerAusal Highoeits's servants except Berguani ; but
was a singular figure, which I reinarhed. I never asked hie
oaree, but he was pointed nut to toe as Itergaml.
By Lord ELLLNBORQUCRIL-1 did not pee soy thin