The National Register.
London, England, 1819-02-14 00:00:00

TIM NATIONAL REGISTER

Tae House divided-For the motion 133 —Aeaniiit it 173
Majority .11.
C.asereneeort rose to move for a Committee similar
to that of last year, on the snhjeet of Pittance. 11e thonelit
he owed it to the House to explain the general view of .ex-
velem which .Government meant to lay before tite House
ieg the present 'Session; but these world lie in a eiey
narrow compass. Pi, del not think it by any means a matter
of course that a Coro iii!tee cif Finance should be appointed
in every Session. Bet he iteil thorn:tit tile teat Committee
necessary, in order to 'Mew to the country that there would
he a surplus mend*: applicable to the liquidation of the debt.
Upon this ground be had moved for the last, and %mild move
fur another Committee; and he hoped it would be able to
lay bethre the house a report au the January quarter, which
would enable the Homier to form a lodgment as to the im-
provement of. the revenue. The income of the year ending
January 1818, was 51;431,0031. and that ending January
1819, wee 31,062,0031. Ia the account of the u 1 millininfor
ISIS, there were to he taken 2,313,0391. arrears of Property•
talc, and other War-taxes; and only 561,0001. of those arrears
were to be found in the 54,002,0001. for 1819. 'Takla; the
whole into consideration there was aii improvement all the
gross reempts of the perm inant taxes foe thedao year, over
that ohich•preceded it, of 4,616,0001.4 and it, as in fairness
the veers* of the smear dones should he laid to the acroutit
of ISltte there wonld be a derides on the permanent taxes
of 5,3e8,00e!., being 10 per rent. advance on them mute then
in any preceding year. This Mei case rya. Upon the whole
of our taxes, except tan, so !edited that they both name:tied
only to 1.1,0001. Even on the article of bricks sod Ades there
I. an inercese of one half; mod like increase on all the articles
which were likely le Phew inereauel property and re-
mitter.s of the country. The Finance Committee had us.
slimed, that the account would stand at the cud of last year
1,132,0001. better Ilan the close of the preceding. He
hal already slated that the income of the last year was 51,
062,0001. which made it 1,500,0001. better than the Finauce
Committee anticipated; and there was a prospect that the
total surplus would stand at 3,3558,0001. applicable to the
reduction of the public debt. There was therefoi e no
intention of proposing any addition to the taxes, as lime,
as mach a 1111111 was applicable to the service of the year.
As far as the present year had gone it was not likely
to fail, but on the contrary to be even more productive
than last year. For, in the last month, these was an in•
crease of 350,0001. over the ,corresponding month in the
preceditig yeas, which had, betide an addition from elie re-
venue of the year 1817, of 600,0001. Since the surplus stun
applicable to the service of the current year, was 3,558,0001.
we hail succeeded in bringing the expenditure within the
ioeuiiie (tithe country. He hoped the Committee of Finance
would be enabled to melte a report on the quarter ending
merit April, before Parliament should separate, by which he
trusted it would be still more clearly sliewo, that the whole
object of the Committee lied been brought to bear, namely,
to bring the expenditure within the yearly revenue of the
kingdom. If the country remained quiet, which there was
every reason to believe it would, there was in it that degree
of vigour mid energy that we might hope to see in every
year a progressive state of improvement. The House would
now naturally expect I • to touch upon the principal ;mhos
of the Estimates which Ministers had made the subject of re.
faction. He could assume the Right Hun. Geutlensan op-
posite (Mr. Tierney) that notwithstanding all that had been
folic, he (Lord C.) was disposed must sincerely and rigorously
to profit by all his good &deices in the way of economy.
Many cirettinstalices at home and abroad had occurred to in-
spire confiJence in the general tranquillity, and which had
enabled Ministers to adopt measure, of wholesome and pro-
dent retrenchment. The Finance Committee had assumes,
that oil the redaction of the Arms 8,067,0091. would be re-
quired fur the Army, besides a sour of 300,0001. for half•pay
and pensions. He was happy to inform the House, that the
estimate of Ministers was 8,700,0001. for the Army, making
a difference of 567,000 L The reduction in the Navy and
Orihnance Departinests would be 103,0001. for each : total of
diminution 7674001. Bet to get at these reductions, a auto of
300,0001. would be required, instead of the coin of 700,0001.
voted last year the the like purpose. This was an expense
always iucident to a reduction ; but not to be expected after-
ward.. The total of Abe troops reduced from France was
20,126 ; at home and in the colonies, 9,443 ; artillery, 2,035 ;
grand total reduced, Including Officers, 35,130. lie had
Cleave the great prospect of our increasing prosperity, and
too tench pelaise could not be bestowed Cie the firmness,
encore', assil industry of the people of the country.—The
NoteldiLerd then proceeded to read extracts from the official
return., Muting the official value of British commerce for the
last Ibisr years, and be was happy to say, that the last year
bed 'acceded any preceilteg one, even the extraordinary
year 1813. In making this statement, lie could only take the
first three quarters of the year ending in October, a' the lait
quarter of the last year was not yet made out. In 1815, our
emporia amotioted to 35.231,0001. greater by nine or ten mil-
lions than had been known in the :metier year. In 1816, the
amount was 28,837,0001. 101817, it was 32 millions, and in
1818, 35,J35,0001. at least 01),(1001. inure than any fernier
year. This statement would, he trusted, operate to expel
all gloomy passages. The Noble Lord said, having thus en.
tered into leach a detail as he thought the subject called for,
he would conclude by pruposieg the re-appointuient of the
Finance Committee lit last year.
Mr. Ttertme, had only expected from the Noble Lard's
notice a motion for the re-appointment of the Fmance Com-
mitter. He was not aware tile Noble Lord intended to open
a Budget, and therefore Its was not prepared, as he would
telierwise have beets, to answer the Nettle Lord. He was
however, prepared to say, that fernier Finance Committees
lied greatly disappointed hie expectations, and lie had only to
Fmk for equal disappointment front the Wows of the Com-
mittee now to ire appointed. lie expected that the Pumice
Committee would have eorpiiied Mtn elle expruditure, and
have recomiuendoil the brads of retrenchinent where re-
trenchment WAS practicable. Instead of doing this,however,
all which the Reports of this Committee had given to the
House en farmer Occasion., and all which it was probable
we should have from it in thin ',resew Session, would be a
recapituletion of the Noble Lurd'a Budget. With respect
to the flattering picture which the Noble Lord bad now drawn
of our commercial situation, he could only say, that the Noble
Lord's theoretical opinion differed entirely from the practical
experience of the merchant. From the Noble Lord's state-
ment it appeared, that there would be a surplus of laconic, at
the dispusal of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, or about
2,400,0001. and the Noble Lord said, 110 W we most be going
an well, sluice not only had we raised our income to our ex•
penditure, but we had 2,400,0001. to spare; bet the Noble
Lord, whilst talking of this surplus, forgot that there was a
debt of ape/aids of 3,000,0001. due to the Consolidated
as well as other arrears oh upwards of 1,000,0001. so that the
PUMA we could expect .to do, unless oar revenue Increased

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Limit g the presen! year, would be Its cry quits with the Con-
solidated Fond hi Jantiary 19-40. Aa I.ll' as he could* see. the
only stein really upplieable to the service of the present year,
was 7.000,9901. miles* indeed we arm to have tile ,000,0901.
from Frasier. %hot on Ali liter °erosions we were told we
were to have m• the withdrawing of the troops. The Right
lion. Gerd. made nu mention of it, he therefore feared ail
hopes of -bat inns was gone for ever. 'fife Noble Lord had
been pleased to say. that lie had profited by his (Mr. T.'s)
advice. Ile was extremely haNiy, indeed, to hear that any
advice of his had been of service to the Noble Let:l; bat lie
could not flatter himself that lot advice would have been at
all attended to by the N.ilile Lord had not that advice been
backed by a General Election.—He tcculleesnl when ha
last year tooposed to reduce the Army 6000, the Nelda
Lord cried out in alarm, What? reduce the Alloy 3008
men in thieve dangerous times ! ! and it was oat done ; but
here azain the General E:eetion slept in to aid his (Mr.
T.'s) advice; and although no chconastance had happened
to abate the Noble Lord's alarm, yet the Noble Lord came
down, and of his own accord proposed a redaction of
nine thousand men. IV its I cspeet to the Noble Lord's
Aunri•hing pictine, he would again I ;peat the colour.
iuy was fnl.e ; tar with a disposable revenue of 7,0001. we
Ahoulit, Ln hnhoy the Sinking Food, Bove an expenditure of
thus there• w cold be a ileticieney ot• 3,000,0J11.
which no thin hi the Chaileellor of the Exlilpipar would
raise by an issue of Exchequer Bilis. The Right Honourable
could not deny this was his intention, or Oho, Le stoold
this nig;it imposts a tote for 2.1,900,0001. finer Rills.
and there was at this moment, he believed, 14,0611,001. of
Exchequer Bids limiting in the mu. ki t. Vet at this time
there wits a Crimmins e above Alai's, to settle oar
paper circulation, Such a Committee under studs deduce.
stances was a mockery on the Public, as wits the whole
Finance System of the Right. Hon. Gent. When he said the
Right Hon. Gent.'s system, be did not mean Ilia Right Hon.
Gentletnan individually, but Ministers collectively ; tot the
Right Hon. Gentleman was no more than the lonia-id orgaa
of the Prince Regent's as regarded Finaace, besotted Ad-
ministration. Mr. Tierney proceeded to comment at large
on the mistaken system under which the Goveroment were
acting, which, he said, so far as regarded making our intume
meet our expenditure, was ate illusion ;• and would be so till
his Majesty's Government would meet the evil boldly in the
fare. _ _ _

Lnfd C 45/7,EREAGII anII Mr. TIERNEY explained.

Mr. VANSITTART defended the statement of his Noble
Friend, and justified the conduct of the former nuance
Committees, to whose suggestions and advice, he said, the
Government and the country were greatly indebted. Much stiU
remained for them to de; and, in particular, their 'siters
would be most meetly devoted to the investigation of the
present mode of collecting the public Revenue, and sue_
gesting regulations and retrenchment in that branch of our
expenditure, in which they would find his Majesty's Ge-
'enliven( ready to go band in hand with them. • The Right
Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to take a review of the
Consolidated Fund of Ireland, ou which, he said, daring the
present year there would he a surplus of 600,0001. (In the
whole, he contended, that as gi eat a reillietieu of public debt
as possible 11...1 taken place since the termination of the war.
At the termination of the war it was Olsen for Parliament to
adopt one of two measures—either to continue a vigorous
taxation, and a rapid diminution of debt; or to rednee taxa-
tion, and to suspend for a time the reduction of our debt.—
Parliament, be would not now say whether wisely or not, had
adopted the latter coarse ; bet whilst we releved the- Pohl;c
from 16,000,0001. of taxation, we could not .espcct to bud a
rapid reduction of debt at the same time. The Right lion.
Gentleman supported the course which had been adopted ;
lint he seemed now to have changed his opinion, and to he
in favour of a vigorous system of taxation. If such was his
opinion, let him boldly aud openly avow it; and in that rase
he should not %emit his assistance to a plan, which he had
always consideied as the most beneficial which could have
been adopted. Right Honourable Gentleman had again
urged hies to a statement ofihis iutentiesis for the.present year;
at present he could only give the Right Hoe. Gent. the
seine answer as on a former night, namely, that he could not
at present, consistent with his sense of his duty, state what
his plaits were.
Nlr. Erlds contended, that the statement of the Noble
Lord, as to our commerce, was delusive; there was nut a
market in Europe, to which America lead access, In which
British manufactures could ant be procured at a lower price
than in England. The difficulties of the country, the Hon.
Gent. contended, were great and were all brought on by a bad
system of Pittance, which could nut, he said, continue. Yet,
if the question was fairly met, and openly cauvassed, he had
still so emelt cosdidence its the resources and spirit :if the
country, as to remove all doubt from his mind, that they were
fully equal to meet and ev,prcome all theme difficulties.
Mr. elacnoNaus stiongly ri:cuutrueuiled a revision of the
present 'node of collecting the public revenue, by which he
was persuaded a saving of 2,000,0001. annually might be

made.
Sir J. St:BRIGHT COOl,l not agree that the Exeliccpier lints
afloat in the market %%as at all an evil. lie was persuaded
sum source was necessary fur the employment of casual capi-
tal. He was persuaded that all whicJt was nactiug was, that
aliberal support should be given by the 1.611 l to our agii-
etillib.alists and our manufacturers.

The :notion ler the aprointment of the Cemniiitee %eat
agreed to, and the biluwing persons ante appumted .11(.16-
i/era :
I Lord Clive
Mr. H. Dmies
Mr.
1 Mr.
Mr. I.
Mr. Treimay::e
1 itir. I.ewi,
Mr..l. Smith
M. Caleraft
i Mr. Cartwrifzllt
Mr. N. Car,'

Lori Castlereqgh
Mr. Vansittars
Mr. llankos
Lord &ming
Mr. liuskiuon
Mr. i'eel
Viscount Joellya
Mr. Liuleton
Mr. 1). Gilbert
Sir G. Clark
Sir G. Hill
Mr. U. Wilbraham

Gm..l
IA:. I Nitta
;'r. Colin,:

COMAIIME OF SUPPLY.

Tim House then resolvel .144:1t into a Committoe of Supply ;
and, on toe 'notion uf Mr. VA/out-rata, a Htseltllloii for
rakvin; 24,000,0001. by Exchequer Bills, turial ds the Supply
uf the year, W 43 agreed t u.—The Report was ordered to lie
received tn-raorrun..—Adjuuroed....

'TUESDAY.
THE CRIMINAL CODE.

Mr. Wit.ocayottctt said, that hi: Lail been intrusted with a
Petition veluch he considered Nan honour to hula; and
which, but for indisposition, he should hav• had bet Ore the
House on on earlier (lay. It cause from a inpt iespeetablo
nutty, the society of Friends, commonly c,illett Warr* and
it called qua the noose to take illiell3 seliCll,l conetdetatiur

TED.I 4

the roomy tiers under which the puniaiment of heath was in.
Ink-red.—The same Hotly, acting with that sobriety, temper
anti moderation, by which they were dist ingnielted; had been
tin 111,0rP °erasion& than nue the first to point oat and to rept,—
bate the existence of voile of the bielteet magnitude. He
coal,' tilt fo get, for to forget it wonld he the height of in.
gratilsti!e, that tile Quakers were aiming the earliest t3r Mote
who hail Haien II that the Slave Trade should be abolished,
and had nes, r been Is kwatal in promming any reuse fa
v.itualile to tic: interests of humanity. The Petition, Mier
ever, deserved the must serious attention, not inertly on
at-remit of the inclivilloals be whom it was signed, but on
amulet of the impertance of lb qrteetion to which it related.
To that qoestion it was In un.,ibte to advert, witlitett ex-
pressing faintly hie, deep regret, in cominnn with the
whole Howie; and Country, that it erns lIPW left for him
to raise his feeble voice in that cause which had been so often.
Anil so ably advocated by one whose name would be recni d, d
none the benefeelors of mankind, and whose memory would
be fondly eartielied by all who reverereed either public or
private virtite—a man whose ceneral knowledge was only
equalled by his ordeseimini ettaininents, and who brought
th to
the sobject all the bruits of the understalitling, and all e
advantages of experience. The obligations of the country
to the nue ceded labours of that most distinguishett and
'lamentable indisi,iunl were acknowletteed by friends and
enemies—`.f, indeed, the term friends could be applied to
those who loved him with devoted entlinsiannt, or enemies to
these who, while they resisted his propositions, had admitted
the be:leen:rime of their object, and the admirable intentions
of him who intredneeil Skein. He was a man in whom
public and private excellence were an united, ansl so equally
ballaticed, that it was aliffirodt to say which hod the pre.
duminanee : those who knew him only as a Member of Par-
liament would probably hold that his public priuMple had
the predominance ; while those who had enjoyed his friend-
ship wonid feel satisfied that the general benevolence of his
views and projects was exceeded by the endearing qualities
of his dustiest itt life. The country had been deprived of his
assistance when most it was Heeded, and when he had pro-
ceeded but afew stews towards the completion of his object;
those steps had been made with esetinn though witliont hesi•
laden and if his progress at first was resisted, opposition in
the end was disarmed by the persmraott of his eloquence, and
eouvietiou compelled by the force of his talents.—Although
deprived of its chief advocate, it seas still to be haped that
many supporters of the comae yet remained, who, at least
in earnestness ail zeal were not behind the distinguished
individual of who he had speken ; it 1% sg, however, most
sincerely to be lamented, that after all that had been said and
written upon the subject of crimes and pnuishinents, sinee
the days of Howard, so little had yet been done to remedy
the increasing evil against which the Petition was directed.
'flue Hon. hlesnuer strongly commented on the present ex-
isting practice of committing punishment ; a practice
which, lie said, arose out of the severity of our Cs Cutle
---a severity which frequently prevented punishment being
carried into effe:q, rendered it Illteellain, and made the coin•
mission ut offences a kind of game of chance, and encoureged
offenders as it were to game away their lives. The Honour.
Member concluded by strongly rectittinicuiling the Petition
to the consideration of the House. The Petition was then
brought up and read. owl prayed that Parliament would, at
as early a period as possible, take the subject into con-
sideretion.
Sir J. M.teerserosit then gave notice that be would, on this
day three weeks, bring forward a motion tilt the subject.

THE POOR LAWS.
Mr. S. liourtste, after AAIIIP preliminary observations as to
the proceedings of the Committee on the Poor Laws, which
sat daring the last Session, said, he should propose to re-
appoint that Committee ; lie was fully impressed with the
importance of the subject to which he was alluding; and the
Committee had felt it in an equal degree. So overwhelming
had the evil appeared to them, that they had been at a loss
what remedy to propose: at the same time it was impossible
to disguise, from ourselves, that the evil great as it was, was
•Ir ill inereaslug ; and in a little time, in many districts, tailless
checked, it would leave to the owner nothing but the soil.
Ile conelnded by moving fur the appointment of a Committee.
Me. Cuitwen's speech on this subject, is considered as
requiring perticnlar notice ; awl we have, therefore, given it
as a separate article in one 6th Page.
Lord CAWI'LEREAtiII thotialli it wolllll be better to discuss
the general question of the Pane Laws when his Right Hon.
Esieed brought in his Bill. It would be deceiving the House
if he was to say that Government had yet seen any mode of
relieving the lower orders by throwing the burden of them
on any one class im the state. It might kink 111. e coercion for
Oovernment to impose any regelations on this subject ; when
the community would hike as a boon aey regulation which
the Idolise generally might agree to adopt. The Committee
had already gone a great length towards ameliorating the
Poor La,vs. Ile would dot encoorage false hopes to the
country; and although some classes in the communits were
still suffering, as in a great country there must at all times be.
there never was an example a a more rapid amelioration of
general, commercial, and manufacturing interests.
Mr. BuRRELI. instanced the case of Brighten parish, which
lately paid 70001. foi Poor-rates, and last year they unwonted
to 16,0J01. file popalatiuu being IS,OJU. of Last
Grinstead paid at the rate of 41. a year a man to the Poor-rates.
The reason was, that there was more of popolatioli in the
parish than they could find work fir. The same pre% dile,' aft
through the sate of So-s: c. Fie consegiteuce would lie, that
thy firmer' would be rained, the I lie waste, and the
country itself be tiltilitetely ruined. MI the yousig, able-bodied
Single men had been obliged to he sent to the worklionse fur
want of employment.
Lord CASTLEItEIfIII atlonrd that this pressure prevailed in
Sussex, bat In few whet places.
Mr. V ETIIVEN said, it %mita boa delusion to think that any
legislative measure could be found to meet this evil, except
by a diminution
of lave, The labourer *as the real sufferer
though the fa, mer and the land-owner were struggling with
the pressnie unite flints.
Aldermen W A ITIINA N could not agree with the Noble Lord
on the increasing prosperity .f the country. lie had found
in his ow,l parisis the distress of the poor increasing op to this
moment. The great distress of the poor arose front the want
of gardens to their eon:sees. Many It:closure BMs had passed
the lionsc, on pretence of elf mg employment to the poor;
they were fat extending NOIlle1114;f1 and Gentlemen's parks,
and not one foot of land was given to the poor. In one of the
parishes of his Ward, now arils of UM persons were sumiuuned
for uompayroetit of their poucrates, and timed incapable.
Nothing would r, ne.sly this evil butt a [dial. flea& the taxes
Whit+ Utia apiattt,4 the cosmos.
'lke Committee was Ikea urelereil to be appointed.
The ATTORNEE.GENEIiaI. rosy to Haw/friar leafs to bring
is a Bill to abolish tke trial of Wager by Rattle. The

NATIONAL 111",GISITR.

I had several time* been brought before Parliatnent, but not
with a view to obtain Re abolitina. The proceeding by Appeal,
in eases of murder, and other fellouies, May very ancient, and
proem:sled front a want of eivilis ition. In some itinancee it
had been carried into effect, contrary to all justice. The
Appeal for Murder was of this deseription ; because no tuna
°nein to he pnt upon his trial again, after having been ac•
Joined by a competent tribunal. The earliest alteration
made in this Appeal was by Magna Chao ta, in which no
woman can Appeal, except the widow of she murdered man.
The next alteration was, that a min actpitteil of murder,
might Le Appealed within a year and a day sifter; and with
this manifest rilissirdity, that a man stied for murder, and con-
victed of tnanshingliter, could plead that conviction, in bar
for au Appeal of the minder. So II: it an Appeal to the Trial
by Battle, is in mans instances the only mode in which a man
may prevent himself from brine 111.1112 a sacrifice, by being
exposed to a second trial. The trial by Wages' of Battle file
Arson, or Robbery, was, in modern fiestas, never resorted to.
Another reason for the repeal of ti's bat harlot's custom was,
that if a man wore convicted, time King bail no power to pardon
him ; the appelior alone being able to do so ; and it rested on
his forgiving or vindicative spirit to determine the fate of his
adversary. lute then moved for leave to bring its a Bill to
abolish Tilat by and Appeals for Mulder.
Mr. DEN II 19 entirely concurred in every observation that
had been made. It was almost impossible to send a moan to
trial asecond time before any unprejudiced Jury. Hs ti listed
the spirit of reform would follow this up will: otl.er alter-
ations which were equally necessary.
The motion was then agreed to.
The Report of the Committee of Ways and itteanc wa
bronglit up and agreed to.
The ATTORNICV-GLNEIIAL brought up the Trial by Battle
Abolition Bill, which was read a first time, and ordered to be
read a second time on Friday next, and to be printed.
WEDNESDAY.
USURY LAWS.
Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW, pnrsnant to his notice, molted for
leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the laws at present existing,
for regulating and restraining the rate of interest to lie paid
fur the use of money. Having on repeated occasions, for.
merly brought this subject before the House, Iseshonld not
at present enter emelt at length into Isis former
He was happy to find, that his opinions oa the subject were
those whirls prevailed now, tint only in the most enlightened
eutintries in Europe, but else in Aniertca. He was eertain
those who first proposed oar present Usury Laws, were by
no means friends to good polioy. lie believed they had their
origin in a pervetadm of a text of Scriptnrc, which stated
that all interest was tmlavrrol. The Miaow able and Learned
Menerstr then proceeded to enter, as formerly, into a rt.
view of the lava upon the subject of interest, from the lime
of Henry VIII. to the present time ; and alluded to the
opinion of Mr. Bentbatumn this subject, who considered the
Usury Laws as initorions ; to wine), opinion, Ito said, 1)r.
Adam Smith lattetly declared Mines-If a convert. A Cosa.
mittee had tortnerly been appointed to enquire into the effect
of the Usury Laws ; and it appeared lis!fore that Commit' a,
that to avoid the laws against Usury, ;inanities had its sehue
instances been granted fur four lives, at Clue rate of 1,411, and
15 per cent. interest. The Hots. Member concluAd by
moving for leave to briag in Isis Bill.
Ms. ]piste, seconded the motion, which he considered as
our which would be productive of great public benefit. He
could not but consider it a most extraordinary circumstance,
that whilst one individual was at liberty to employ his money
its the purchase of land or houses, and to make all the pretlt
he could upon it, another individual having money, slims'd
not be allowed to snake the hest interest he could of his pro.
perty.
Leave was given to bring in the Bill, which was brought
tip, read a first time, and ordered to be read a. second time
on Monday next.
Mr. Alderman Wont) moved for a Return of the Annual
Expense of the transport of Convicts to Nvi South Wales,
and of the total Annual Expence of those Colonies aline 1815.
—Ordered.
. Mr. Lt:SHINGTON brought in a Bill for raising 20,000,0004.
by Exchequer Bills, towards the service of the present year.
—Read a. first, stud ordered to lee read asecumi time to-mor-
row —adjoarned.

THURSDAY.

The SPEAKER acqnainted the Honse,`thattortiPtiliteston,
who had been elected for two Boroughs. hail chosen to sit for
New Sarum, one of the Boroughs for which be was elected.
Mr. CURWEN, in presenting a Petition trout 14 ith in
Yorkshire against the Poor Laws, took the opportunity of
saying, that though the Noble Lord hail asset ted his disbelief
of the distress said to prevail in the manufacturing and agri-
cultural districts, yet such was the fact.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he had not etpresseil any such
disbelief. He had only said, it was not so great as had been
represented.
The Petition was then ordered to lie oa the table.
Mr. Moone obtained leave to bring in a Bill to light with
Gass the parishes of St. Alartio's.in-tln-!'fields, St. Pam's,
Covent Garden, St. Mary's.in-the•Strand, St. Cleineut.Daurs,
St. James's, Stv.
Mr. NI ittlIVS-N brought in a Bill for the better Recovery of
Small Dents in different Parts.
Sir J. JACKSON moved for a Caminittee to eaquirr. Vale; her
Cu liifeetiou was incident ti• Epidemic lOWe.iscs.
Mr• IV. W YNN thought this was a suoject more tit fur the
enquiry of medical men, than a Committee of the House of

Commons,
\II. Itoninsuts said, the qaestion arose out of the Cumin:s-
lim. ...Ans. as they now stood. Discoveries li.ka laly hel)
bi.tdc, which tended to sloe w titit the Wawa,: itselfte n 4.1 00l
con;agams; and sot cly, it was estremely impos butt, to know
wile:her It wilts so or uot. 'Flits sittemlluit had been btodght
before the Departincett to which he belonged ; :tad, as it was
A Matter of great moment to CollillttlCe, consitierlog the state
of the Qaarentine Laws, it was Jest' ante to aseei titin the truth.
The question had been referred to the College ot illyalCiAlls.
Upon whose recommendation, the Qtf.rentiuc Laws had beets
established ; and their Separt was, that the ori4inal doctrine,
on which these 111%,13 Miele folliitltA, was, lit then. (Titbit:in,
sound. Still it tuts important to ascertain the fact ; and
some of the evidence respecting the ert,loolit: 11141 prevailed
last year, had thtown doubts on that doctrine. If it was once
estaulislied that Ike plague uN.lsepislemic, and not conta;iour ,
it would be of the greatest benefit to ciotonerce„ Fur these
I Ca' oils, he saw uo difficulty in submit. lug tilts miestion to il
Committee or the Hume, which would beaded Nits inquiry:,
by 11. t• to rocioatiott Aiol 155,411'111 s Of silellittic men.
Mr. W. %V rust said, that after what had ban said h.: would not
oppose the illation ; bat he hoped the bat opinions that ruld be
pocared would be soughtfor b.; Ow Committee; as without dispa•
ta;ent.....it to toe Wi140171 of the lions!, he thought they was Mem•
vett:lt to brut utly judgcmce.t cu t'oc subject.