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SE OF LORDS.
DAY, JULY 15.
The Royeintiss.salli rgiven by commission AO
Iblek Cents. Re-payments Bill the Com I station.
Register Others. the Westriltral and ,
- bills.—' e Commissioners e the wale.
deadal Shifieabury. 'elik..
The Act Aniendor the Scotch S'
back Bill. d the London B Works
brought up frllmjhe Commons.
GREEK 140STARES.—Ear4. ga R.
'' Earl in his platgag. Liverpool), wished/if ow w
jection would ht.-made tairui‘o e cation for an humb-
Majesty, raying he wt graciously pla red .
there before the house collies of All despatches
am at Constantinople relative to the r
Greek hostages ?
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, tha,notion
importance that the noble Earl had bett-el bring:
Earl GROSVENOR then intimated. that he s
house do agree to the addresson Wednesday.
1 he lush Prison Laws' Amendment Bill, and*
cences Bill, wierread the third tine.
TRADE WITH SOUTH ADIERISIA.—The Marighia
DOW N E said he intimated, ten days ago, his int of
a question to the noble Earl at the head of rreaste
thiip
pecting the counts/Dial relations between arty
United States of South America. It might known to
noble Lord. that a British vessel, engaged in carrying on tea.
legalized by a recent act of the British Legislature-aflame!,
trade between Englandand the Settlements of So. - -
had been captured by a Spanish ship of war,
Spanish port, and condemned. It was important t
tile iv/forest to be informed what was nipure of the
between tlqk Governincot of Stealth This count
America. respectiog a Ike trade. lle wished to
it was the intention of his Maj.sty's Government
independence of those States. and whether there
derstanding between this Government and Old i.
action to Bitish vessels carrying on Lona jilc tree.
colonies. He also wielied to know whether measures
taken to convince the Goveriment of Ai,ein of the inten
Majesty's Governinedito li•sisitt erfecuril protect:oil
'hip* engaged that trade ?
The Earl of LIVE 11.1•001. had no difficulty in giving *
noise Marquis explanation on the subject. Who resix•ct to the
CAW of the ship Lord Cullingwood, to which the noble Mar-
quis alluded. information was received some time ago of that
snip having been captured on pretence of a violet on of t block-
ade of Buenos Ayres. and no time was lost on the of bils
. Majesty's Governni in snaking a reprezentadon ot e cave.—
If there had been a broken
blockade of Buenos Ayres, and the
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cord Coll/ngw 4 ood hat broken the blockade, the Spanish ship
would have mien justified in pre.:enting vessels going in ; but it
appeared there was no bluckade•—eimununication had been mane
to die-Spanish Government. and tile answer was, that no infor•
nation had been received from South ri merica respecting the
fact. but enquiry would he made. With re'spect to the fiubjoct
generally. lie was desirous of arming what the situation of trade
renlly was between this country, Spain, and So...th America--
Ever 4nce the question of Spanish Colonial Indere-valence was
raised iii 1801:1 and 1809, this mnuatry had enjoyed a .`rec trade
with South Americas.' Until the restoration of the colontea ni Oil
Spain, the trade of England to Santo Ainerices was to be fre.n—
The navigation act not only legitimatized trade to and from Was'
country in ships belonging to the South American colonies,
but the ships of Old S;inin. As for as concerned the conti-
nent of South America, it was as open as the tradee any country
whatever.
Clic Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in reply, said it would have
been more satisfactory to have heard from the noble Earl that
the trade with South America had been legalized upon recent
cngageinents with Old Spain, and that the latter had abandoned
the colonies ; yet he was ready to admit diet the explanation of
the noble Earl, stating, that the protection of the trade was in•
tended, must be satisfactory; he should therefore only submit to
tile n ible Earl whether it would not be convenient to lay the fonts
of condemnation of the vessel before the {louse.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL heal some objection to the produc-
tion of that paper.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE then said he should take the
proper opportunity to move for copies of the communication
made to the Government of Spam on the subject. as soon as the
result could be made known to Parliament.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE pos:poned the discussion on the
Scotch Juries Bill.
Lord AUCKLAND moved the order of the day for going into
a committee on the Ale Houses Liragising Bill.
Earl BATHURST called the attetion of the committee to the
clause in page 14. The object of that clause was, that no publi-
can should be deprived of his licence unless a regular com-
plaint was made aesuinst him, and that complaint scut down to
the quarter sessions. Unless he was found guilty of infringing
the conditions of his recognize/wt. his licence could not be with-
held. It would be impossible, with the clause the bill, for any
niagistrate to put dowd a licence. The publican under the chili e
had the right of insisting upon the renewal of his licence, and be-
tore Parliament deprived the magistrates of wholesome controul,
they ought at least to have a better seem ity for the proper conduct
of publicans. As the bill stood, great difficulty would occur in
taking cognizance of complaints, and no good would be done by
going to the quarter sessions. The noble Earl a:so adverted
to the increase of business it would occasion at the sessions, mind
concluded by moving to omit the clause.
Lord AUCKLAND said, lie considered the clause to which
the noble Earl had objected the only one beneficial to the publican.
If it was omit ed. the magistrates would still Stave the power to
refuse licences. The nobie Lord concluded by declaring his in-
tention to support the ciaust/.
The committee then divided on the question. that the clause
stand port of the bill—the number* were—contents, 7—not con-
tents, 16—An ajo rit y against the clause, 9. The clause was con-
sequently omitted.
The bill then passed through the committee. and was reported,
with the amendment. to the Rouse. The other milers were dis-
posed of, and the Rouse adjourned.
Tussuss., JI'LY I.
Lord F.StSItINE presented a petition tmm the //habitants of
London and Wesuninster, in favour of the bill t. prevent cruelty
to animals, whie:l was read and laid nu the talsle.
Tile bills on the table were forwarded a ritage.
Cill'ELTy To AXISIALs BILL.—Lord ERSKINE rose on
the Order of the Day for the second reading of the Bill to pre-
vent cruelty to animals, and supnoi fed all the humane objects it
had in view.
After a few observations front the Lord Chancellor, the bill
was read a second time, and committal for tii•morrost.
Issue or re.:,IALL. NOTLS I: t tte—'fbe Earl of CAICSAR •
VON said he did nut rise to object to the third reading of this
gal, because he entertained sonic hope that the bill would throw
small notes again into circulation, and give the country at least a
chance of more pronsetity man the public could reasonably ex-
pect to enjoy Rapier the existing state of the cuticle/. One evil
ititeed was likely to result farm the measure. The issue or these
Mites *mil' at fest create so great a dennuad for goad, that country
b....keis would be bard yr...vs.:situ raise it. la sump instances it
wound be iumusaible to meet the demand. The noble Earl, al-
thou ;11 he did rot object to tl.e passing of the bill, took that o,r•
I ortu cry 0; state !i.e try he 100. i 01 I .e p.eseat dims:soot Slate
tt a,;.lc.alu.re. T.i.it &sires:. hel luien, in his opinion, faleely
5i14,14,1 to saptirsLattulatit. Tau ALL:x.lle, tel..alt lie inlet...

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lle might ask w tut occasioned a state of insurrection ? The
answer would be, a knowledge on the part of the people in the
disturbed dietrictsethat they could not by possibility pay enor-
mous taxes imposed upon them during the circulation of a paper
currency. Thiteenoble Lords who conducted the affairs of Go-
rernoknt were Bound to spew the evils ; at present the subject
of complaint had been occasioned by other causes than those he
had stated ; but it would be di licult to prove the whole did not
proceed from a changed 4sweciated currency. If they towerto
give relief to the countryrthey, must retrace their steps. It was
insi.o,sble to go on without leinging the standard to the state it
%is in when the country was not suffering under distress, which
unhappily now was the fact. The whole produce of the land
was nut worth the price of cultivation. Men, three years ago,
worth thousands yearly, had been reduced so low that they could
not pilaw interest of their mortgages. The present system, if
continued, would go to the extent of confiscating the grea er part
of the landlord's capital. The measure before the Home might
afford ware relief, but it mould not do justice to the landholder.
The Earl of IlVE'll'ool. spoke in answer to all the argu.
menu of the noble Earl, and, of along discussion, the bill
VHS read a third time. Adjourn •• •
WEDNESDAY, ULT 17.
ln Oil INSURRECTION PILL. Mr. Brt'gtlen, and others
front the Commons, broagiit Awe the Irish Insurrection Bill,
which, on the motion of tile rail of Liverpool, was read the
first time, and c,:se second readinseieted for Friday.
The Ale Houses Licensing illewas read a third time and
peeetl.
The Scntch Juries' Bin, _ after some amendments proposed by
the !tail of Lauderdale lied is e'en negatived, passed through a
committee, and was reported.
Earl GliOeVENOlt rose for the nurpose of moving an ad.
&lees to his Majesty on the subject of the Greek hostages cruelly
butchered by the Turks. The Lords Arco aware of e fat had
recently taken p!ace in the island of Selo, anti the dreadful cruel-
ties pet pttrated upon an unoffending people. All tlu: brutal fury
of the 'Turks had been let loose upen wretched victims, who tad
been guilty of no crime. Tic Greek hostages taken by the Turks
were confined in a fortrtss in Scio, while others were removed to
Constantinople. When it appeared that hostilities was not likely
to be commenced by Itits•ta, the'•freal moment was chosen to
slaughter the unfortunate hostages. It was said that the British
minister, as well as the ministers of other countries at Constan-
tinople, had given a pledge that those cruelties should not occur.
That report had not been contradicted, and it was reasonable to
suppose there had been a complete forfeiture of that pledge. He
was not prepared to say the bloody and cruel act of the Turkish
Government was a cause of war, but he contended that it ought
to induce every Government in Europe to withdraw from such
detestable persons. Governments acting upon the rot distend
holy alliance, had interfered in the affairs of Italy, consenting to
a cordon ranitaire upon the frontiers of Spain, and meddling in
the efforts made by men to obtain Bee governments. It was
hard then if they could not interfere for the protection of the
Greeks, a much injured Christean people, bend nder the
most intolerable yoke that ever disgraced suffering humanity,—
If it were true that tile government of this country had shown
partiality to the Turks, it would be a lasting sffgma on the
British nation. The noble Earl had heard that a Turkish frigate
had been sum lied with warlike stores in this country. If that
eeort was grounded in truth, nothing could be more perfideotts.
ire was no man of humanity who did not feel anxious for the
auee of the Greeks. The struggle in which they were engaged
must end in success and extermination. Every friend to civili•
zation and public morals must wish to see a free government
in that delightful country, which once was the States of
Greece. The noble Earl concluded by moving, that ••• An
humble address be presented to his Majesty,. praying he would
be graciously pleased to order that there be laid before the house
copies of despatches received from the British minister at Con-
stantinople, relating to the execution of the Greek hostages."
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, it was impossible, in the
rem)
discharge of his duty, not to oppose the • . In the case
before the house, an act of cruelty and i ice had been com-
mitted by the Government of Turkey ou th own subjects.. An
tact of cruelty. could net be prevented by .the interference of
a British itimister, undoubtedly repreecntatlbn would be made
et all times with that view. belt axgford would have been
the last man to omit such inter& ;he Interfered, hot not on
the ground of righerhunitihity alma was his guide. It was too
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true that scenes hadtske place horrible to humanity, but the
noble Lord might rest the cruelty was not all on one side.
With respect to the isian to, the first hotrors were commit-
ted by the Grtek. He • t say that, however, to palliate the
conduct of the Turks. noble Lord hid mentioncil that a
Turk: 1 frigate had been supplied wan annouietion in thls
clumsy ; nothing could be more unfoundiel than that report.—
There was, however, a vessel in our
_ports whith had been a
Turkish frigate. She was slot by therache of Egyptanterier to
the insurrection in the Mores. Site was partly laden with rner-
ct.andize and curiosities ter the British museum. The vessel
was :dimmed to be repaired in our ports, but aims and ammuni-
tion were positively refueed. With aspect to the Turks and the
Greeks, this country had stood perfectly ntuter.
Lord HOLLAND said, if the British minister had given a
Ile he that the !imago-, :bold be protected, Parliament bad a

.o postpont „ the bill was , the ..
bring in a measure having precisely- the same object
early next session?
The bill was then ordered to be read A thid time this day
three months.
The Earls' LIVERPOOL said, that in fixing the second
reading dtlfre Irish Insurrectio* Act for Friday next, he bed
some doubts whether they could then proceed to business, that
day be•ng the anniversary of his Majesty's coronation-
Lord HOLLAND said, that if it were usual to keep the
anniversary as a holyday. they must of course do FO now. :v
.vse •
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he must try a •
way Lack for precedents, as the anniversary of his late Maim*
coronation never fell during the sitting of parliament.
It was then nnderstood that thealebate, rt nonlaken on Friday, *
would be on Monday next. I**:.
Lord SIDMOCTII fixed the noon Acts Bill for either w
Friday or Monday. in the same manner.
On the motion of Lord ERSKINE, the Cruelty to Animals
bill wisairamitted, after a few urds from te Lord Chancellor,
who raWed his observatied aillFthe third dading.—The report
Was receives] and agreed to.
The house then ;adjourned.
THURSDAY, Just 18.
Mr. Bmgden enciphers from the Commons, brought up the
Leather Duties Reduction Ball, the Irish endowed Schools, and
the Duchy of Cornwall Bill.
*The Scotch Spirits Drawback Bill was read the third time and
passed.
The Annuities Memorializing Bill, after a few observations
from Lord Ellenborough, was read the third time and passed.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, in the absence of a noble vis-
count, postponed the second reading of the Prison Laws Consoli-
dation Bill until Monday. The house then adjourned.
FRIDAY, JULY 19.
The Scotch Juries Bill was read the third time and passed.
The Insolvent Debtors Amendment Bill was read the second
time, committed for Monday, and the Lords suninioned.
The Irish Insolvent Debtors' Act Amendment Bill, and tits
Leather Tax Reduction Bill, were read the mooed time, and
also the ()itchy of Cornwall Bill.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL laid on the table the second re-
port of the commissioners appointed to enquinkiarto the revenue
of Ireland. The noble earl recommended this document to the
serious attention of the house.
The Earl of LIMERICK concurred in the recommendation
made by the noble earl.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, Ware report pointed to
to any serious evils, the same ought to be met with a remedy.
Earl DARNLEY again called the attention of his Majesty's
, government to the stationery transaction in Ireland, and again
urged the propriety of ample enquiry into that subject, which
• had not yet been sufficiently investigated.
• The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved& resolution, pledging
• the hoose to a renewal of the bill for regulating the graud jary
• presentments of Ireland. This resolution was moved iu con-
' sequence of a late bill on the subject basing been withdrawn,
on the grounds of a want of information. The /1101100 was

agreed
The Earl of LIVERPOOL lose to move the er•cond reading
of the Irish Insurrection Bill. The noble Earl observed that
the slate of Ireland made it necessary last session of Parliament
to pass, not only the insurrection act, but the habeas corpus
suspension act. He was happy to state on this occasion that it
would not be necessary to renew the habees corpus suspension
act. With respect to the bill before the house, the despatches
on the table received from the noble marquis at the head of the
governine,pt of Ireland, alleged that considerable improvements
bad been made in the stale of Ireland, which he ascribed to
the operataiss of the Insurrection act ; and the noble marquis
left room to infer, that if the hill was withdrawn it would pre-
vent progressive improvement. With the correspondence,
such as it was, before Parliament, the house would not do their
duty by the empire at large, and the quiet loyal inhabitants of
Ireland, if they did not give the government the discretionary
exercise of that power to which the security of property was to
be sole .attributed. The uoble earl concluded by moving the
second /leading of the bill.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE did not feel justified in of-
fering opposition to the passing of the bill, at the same time lie
could not consent to give a silent vote on the question. While
I r admitted that it might be a bill necessary for the safety of
Ireland, be could attach no merit to it as sn isolated measure.—
The noble marquis at the head of the Irish government stated
in his despatches that the act had the elicit of restoring spe-
cious tranquillity ; but if it were withdrawn for a moment, that
tranquillity would be disturbed. There was a deeply rooted
sy stein of disorder in the society of Ireland, which could only
Ire removed by coustitutionel measures, ha% in,r, a direct ten-
th-n(1 to ameliorate the condition of the people of that country.
The people should feel that they bed not to rely upon the mercy
of any Lord lAiofraant armed with unconatitational power, hut
upon these OAR coust.tutional law. She noble Rierquisohjected

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'Nem . tint tit y Inutile Mier to cast a spell upon foul aspersion cast on their conduct by that report. • ..±.lr •
s. Ile did not supposithechanaellpr of the Exchequer Lord LIVERPOOL declared that on such.. er 4.1
or the First Lord of the Trea-urywhillenjurors. but they -had been giv.n. The motion 'rod without a ' . *
lap the five per spoken on the subject of thlitegoepsuondanee as if they had power On the order of th - w . the 1
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trease, Lord Re• the can ' atilFescommended the oottritry to wait with rious statements mark . t Iby clerks of the Cry i•
patience happy and genial hoots. when every thin., de- patent °t act. . ical att in gaols, and others • . el
rich Sprits Draw- light . arise out of scarcity. We bad for fine terially by the b. ''' and also pointed out - ..'t '
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ts, w specks of Argo to be of gr e injustice of at on part.
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R. seeing a nobl •L. fitted. a ' the sawion, it woo ildish vested ink of pa wlto were. contrary to sun pr :
whether any ob- . . argue that di nal by over production.w From parliament, allowed no oplkiretunity if- being te coard.
able address trellis ,;,,, me of the r to the end of thewqt, when they present bill went on, he had several amendments lleit ~* ,• •
gA.d to order dret 7 red to retort to tidy payments, high prices of grain coati- his motion for postponement were agreed to, jostice . , . .• . 4,-
spatches front oar tied. and fell from the mernenr they rapt nett to peace e , done to all the parties, and no delay given. for the reasons . '9
execution of . .yn -ten,' Hai Mr to prove that depreciattoat
tined, to the actual operation of the bill He covered -. by
• `cyotrasil distress eithiciguarthe- so mosyn it be read a third time thatday three months. ~.
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ri was of so mite L tt:,,,_,..7 -• . plairtim,-Both bread saimeatirtre chea in 1743. a The CHANCELLOR said, that be had presented
it on upon notice. .• :7- ..f war. BM ten a atifff . 'Wag time of peace. Ilk petition one clerk of the crown in Ir . nho aeelared lit
it shouldarynathe - erl... In!. which the ligort onerotts,of any to this paid or ugistance in one year a I nun titan this hitt at •
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.ntenOsie no in a. •l prices. Bread was allowed both Gillis own remuneration Item s. • ti
rielole. • '
Ise Lt. • . per in 1780 thap.in rairevithr broils out. From The Earl of LI NI ERICK must say that properthee of
18141tbkorice of wheat lutik4 at. cps payments ' the miseries which had accumulated upon his unhappy ementry
faro& pf LA NS- 1914 acelßriornd a failure in .. ..banks, and from Wad beewaggravated by the gross transacti rand jurisni:
ntinWaof putting t circumstances Ittniel. •
_,._. previous issue of bank paper,) andoll that could touch the jobbing pr such astern
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a,, gicrcuryojes. bvious that j)he sari -1 mr .terest was promoted whilst blies ought to be encouraged. (Heal, bear. - ust ma
ntry andligkor was a suspeon of Ens , ~I, -, ts. In teln Mr. Peel's bill that the clerks of the Crown had them full •. 4C e
11111kneart to ilk operated in a weenier ruinous • '..-. landed interest. The Bank for their habit of splitting indictments; the clerks or the poem
carrying on trade had reviously btlagbt up all the geld in eirctie, not only in had gybe still . er. for instead of hundreds a year
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gisliktnre--namely, •is tin many parts of Europe. and the circumstance a-fein of thousands-he Inter one wbo St„,
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of South America, ' • e distress among the agrictiltunstarief France, a ear. H this bill as the harbinger of a sys refir
sr, pined into a art, ter . ' the Catwalk; The loss of gold was a serious 'dilation for re and. ~. ,
tit to the mercantile • • .an ' !n tiepin the land proprietors were compelkd The Earl of LI VERPOO ....;„..ht it abselolsiy neieusty
'tae understruding -MO' with their produce on the lowest terms. The nrl that the grand jury presentm , Id be ptirupm a nen
tunny, and South contended that inchoate-in the currency after theft. - footing; but still he the j..,„ . t .s of this bill had not
*rit,
Ito know whether trictiou act passed in 1797. was the reaof thep. s- received the fullest con ' Ir' . ' ..'
ea woo • enter i I.
int to recognize the tress. Anyther view tithe to be_ taken ofclanc" landscape quedion of paten4glA.not •
ten;
twang,
ire existed any tin. he was Waged te draws, mina,. the misfortunes ef Ireland. He could be tleeraft, vested int ts; still the Me
I Spain to give pro- dal not ande to the misery of &mine, arising out of the failure to be inquiretkao, elul it could not be done in a better way kin
e trade with ttose of the potatoe crops. Long previous to that calamity Ire in that pointed out by the noI)le lord opposite (the Earl of Do-
measures wrIPI be was in inimy ports reduced to a state otAistrei•s bottlering notithenore.) If ibis bill were now put otnte would engage to
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the intention of his total rain. The resistance Inatlc by tele unliirtnnate people • bripsan one precisely iha same principle in the next session.
dutectiou to British Irelatid to tax.gatherde and tinge collectors ir.4 aced his Majesty s ne Marquis of LANSIAIWN skald, that the only objection
Covs.rnment to apply to Pariiament for the Insurrection Act.-. to postponing the bill was removed by the stable earl's pledge to
_ . . . ... .k.......i..... ...s. ...1.... —..•......d s ....it,. of insurrection 1 The brim" In a measure having precisely- the same object in view