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will take upon myself the responsibility of deviating from
the route, if it should be necessary." He never used the
words. " if any thing should liliseit, I will take the
responsibility upon myself." lie does not know Mr.
Grieg (a witness) by name. but there was a man who ap-
peared particularly anxious about the procession going
through the city. and who frequently rode up and ad-
dressed him. Witness did tell him lie thought they would
be obliged to go through the city, and if they did so,
they must pass down St. James's-street and Pall-mall, as
it was market day in the Haymaket. He does not recol-
lect any person saying any thing abont Mr. Waithman or
Lord Hood, nor does he remember giving him any autho-
rity to communicate any thing to them. There were ge-
nerally five or six persons talking to him at the same time,
and he cannot recollect clearly all that passed. He did
desire that person to use his influence to prevent any
insult at Carlton House. The intended collie of the pro-
cession was altered in obedience to a force which could
not be resisted, without serious mischief to the soldiers,
to the people, and to the attendants in the procession,
many of whom were females in a dreadful state of alarm
and anxiety,
Jurors.—Does not know of his own knowledge that
a man was sent to the llorse Gum& for fluffier instruc
lions, or that one came back with orders. When he
joined the procession at Kensington, lie conceived it to be
his ditty to conshict it as near to the prescribed ronto as
possible, end that he was accountable for any deviation
from it. It was in consequence of the danger which he
apprehended that the consented the procession should ge
another way than that prescribed. He communicated his
apprehensions to the comm miler of the escort. He does
not remember receiving ally particular answer from the
commander, but lie understood he. was willing to go any
way which lie (Sir It. R.) should di-ect. He believed
Captain Bouverie• of the Blues. was the commander of
the escort, but lie did not know him personally. IVitness
did not order the procession to go through Hyde Park.—
Ile considered himself at liberty to send for more sol-
diers, if necessary.
Sir R. Baker then signed hisdepo‘ition and withdrew.
Lieut. Col. Cavenilkh was the next culled andswum My
name is Henry Frederick Coin twit Cavendish. I live at
Hyde-park barracks; I urn a 'Lieutenant Colonel iii the
Life Guards.

Coroner.—Do you know any thing of the death of Richard
Honey ?—ity report I do; Intl not of my own knowledge.—
The officers with the detachment on duty on the 14th, were
Captain Oakes, Lieutenant Storey, and Lieutenant Hall.—
There were alto four other detachments. One was under the
command of Captain Terry, and stationed at Kensington
Park-gate.—They all went out of the barracks at the same
time. Lieutenant Gore commanded at the Cumberland-gate
A corporal was stationed at Hyde Purk•gate. Lieutenant
Gore had twelve or thirteen men, including a corporal. A
corporal commanded at Stauhopc-street gate, Another
corporal commanded at Grosvenor-gate. No other officer
as Lieut. Gore's company. There might have been
thirteen wen, including a trumpeter and corporal.

Were there special orders given to the detachment leaving
the barracks, that they were to act under the civil power I
There were.

What sort of a person, in appearance, is Lieut. Gore ?
Young and tall.
Light or dark hair ?—Dark, ahnut the colour of my own.
Was Lieutenant Gore qualified to carry pistols?—l'er-
fectly so.
Was the trumpeter of the D. troop named Farmer
really do not know.
Examined by Mr. Adolphus.—Did you see the troops go
nut on the morning of the 14th instant?—Most of them:
When they came home, how many were wounded ?—Men
or horses?

Alen first.—Thirty-six went to the hospital, and eight re-
mained in the hospital, nearly well.
Was their clothing more bedaubed n ith mud than it would
have been on common duty ?—The clothing of the whole
troop was covered with mud and dirt.
Was it your duty to receive a report of the state of the
regiment I—lt was.
Did the number of men you have spoken of as sent to the
hospital remain missing?—They did.
Have they been absent from the rauksi—They were
ab-
sent for a short period.
Why I—Because they were in the hospital.
Did you examine the horses ?—t did.
Were any wounded I—l saw a horse cut under the throat.
Wish what ?—W ith it knife or sharp instrument.
Col. Cavendish then said one soldier might have cut ano-
ther, but it was not very likely.
.Im-in.—Tim troops turned out properly accoutred I—They
did.

How were the officers equipped ?—As they were ordered
to be on a field day.
Do officers carry pistols on a field-day ?—Sometimes they
do and sometimes not.

What were the orders on the 14th inst. 2—To go as on a
field day.
Were they particnlatly ordered to carry pistols on that
day ?—No, they were not hut the officer. acted di4cretionally
1)o they aloa)s carry ball-cartridges on a field-day
The soldiers do not. _ . .

Col. Cavendish then stated, in answer to a question, that
the man who rode the wounded horse was corpor4l Ford.
A Juror then said—" Col. Cavendish, I beg leave to make
known to you the unmanly conduct of part of the, officers
and men of your regiment, stationed at the gate of the bar-
rack,, when we attended with the witnesses to identify the
men who shot Ike deceased. We were then assaulted by
them, and I beg leave to state it was an illegal obstruction.
Make Loan to the officers and men that we are sensible of
their outrageous conduct, and will not fail to entertain a
proper opinion thereof."
Col. Cnvendish.—l hope the Jury will let me know if they
want me agr,ain. I have important business in Derbyshire,
and must leave lown.—l shall chilli on Saturday.
The. Jury then retired for refreshment. On their return
Margaret Yuen was swum and examined. The witness
lived servant at No. 2. Great Cumberland-street. and de-
posed to seeine a euldier full from his horse when the funeral
was passing thriorgh Cumberland-gate. She saw nu stones
thrown when he fell.

Mr. Adolphie: rut the question.—Thon ;II you did not see
stun•' Omni) n hen the defendant fell, you cannot !.ay
stone. were not thrown ?

Mr. Wait hinan d io that mode of examination.
A Jur, man also protege(' azainst it ne. unfair.
Ntr. Adolphui said, crew y Juror would do his duty accord.
ing to hi, oath, but how he (lid it pthterity would judge.
Juror.—That insinuation i, of MI 1:011!eglIellete In US.
Another 3111011%-1 i-h to know whttlicr air. Adulithub
has it legal tight to be litre 1

Coroner.—My opinion is, Mr. Adolphus ought to be per
milted to go on.
Juror.—And be is legally here ?
Coroner.—Yes, he is.
Juror.—lf that is the Coroner's decision we must go on.
Josiah Brown, of N 0.2, Cumberland-btreet, deposed, that
he saw the procession come through the gate. 'r he soldiers
rode on at a very brisk rate, and one of the horses fell. At
that time he saw nothing thrown at the soldiers. Soon after-
, wards he heard firing, and he saw a man carried away on a
shutter.—While they were earring him away, he heard cries
of,. murder I" and " shame !" from the crowd.

It was now asked by the Foreman if any more witnesses
were in attendance to give evidence, and he was answered in
the negative by the beadle.
A Juror obseived, that this was very extraordinary, as
summonses had been issued for the attendance of several, and
how was their absence to be accounted for ?
A Jnror.—Have we the power to summons witnesses
before us?

The Coroner.—Certainly.
Juror.—But if they do not attend upon our summons,
how are we to get at them?
The Coroner.—Upon proof that any witness has been
actually served with a siumnons, and does not appear after
a reasonable time has been allowed,' shall issue a warrant
to bring him here.
The Fermium then wished to know whether they would
adjourn till to-morrow or Wednesday.
Mr. Adolphus hoped it would be Thursday or Friday,
for lie could not attend on either of the days mentioned by
the Foreman.
The Foreman.—l ..ertaittly shall not consent to a longer
adjournment than Wednesday.—Several Jurors called
out, "Let it be Wednesday."
Mr. Adolphus.—Then, Mr. Coroner, I cannot attend.
A Juror.—We arc not to consult your convenience, sir t
we do not even consult our own.
Another Juror observed, that perhaps they would be
able to get through the investigation without the assistance
or the learned gentleman.
The Coroner.—Well, gentlemen, to what (lay do you
mean to adjourn? This is only a waste of time.
The Foreman.—To Wednesday, certainly, and before
we do adjourn, I hope summonses will be issued to Capt.
Oakes, and Lieutenants Story, Gore, hall, and Terry, the
officers of Guards proved to be on duty on the 14th of
August.
The Coroner said the summonses should be issued.
After some further conversation, the Court adjourned
to Wednesday, at two o'clock.
[EIGHTH DAY]
The Coroner's Inquest on Honey was on Wednesday
resumed at the New Inn, Edgware-road. The Coroner,
Mr. Stirling, arrived soon after two o'clock. by which
time most of the Jurymen had assembled. The room at
the commencement was not so crowded as on former oc-
casions. Mr. Henson, the attorney, was present; but
neither Sheriff Waithman nor Mr. Adolphus had arrived
when the Jury were called over and sworn.
The beadle then stated, that the corporal and the
trumpeter were in attendance.
The corporal was ordered, by the Foreman,to be called
in.
John Hayward, corporal in the Life Guards, of Troop
C., being sworn, said, that he was nut in the party on
the day. There were ten privates, two corporals, a
trumpeter, and an officer of the party. When they ar-
rived at Cumberland Gate they were divided into two
divisions of six each—one division on the right, and the
other on the left of the Gate—all were in Oxford-road.
After they were thus stationed, they were ordered to
cloak. Lieut. Gore had no cloak. He rode out of the
ranks, and asked Lieut. Gore to accept his (witness's)
cloak. He said No; and he (Gore) lifted up his Ada-
ra9ue, and added, his servant had sent him out without
cloak or pistol. They afterwards rode their horses about
backwards and forwards in the street. Next came a large
crowd of people and shut the gate. They (the Guards)
opened them, and placed a sentinel on each side of the
gate thus opened. Next there was a larger crowd still,
who again shut the gate, and forced the two sentries.
They opened the gate again by force, and placed two
additional sentinels. At that time they were saluted with
a shower of stones and brickbats by the mob. It was
about dinner time, somewhere between twelve and two
o'clock ; it was before the procession came up. Witness
was then hit on the temple with abrickbat, which made
him dizzy, (leaf, and blind for some minutes. When he
came to himself he saw a great crowd most active and
noisy. By the assistance of his comrades and the police
they next set to work to remove two waggons, posts, and
iron grates, taken front the streets, all being placed across
the Edgw-ire-road. T;iat was all he saw, except being
hammered with brickbats and stones. There were no
horses in the waggons. Some of his comrades had been
ordered to the gateway; but the mob was violent, and
endeavoured to keep the gates closed. They drew their
swords, because the mob would not submit without; and
they used the flat parts of the swords in defence, and to
enable them to execute their orders. The salute of
stones and brickbats was made at the second attempt to
open the gate , there seemed to be a confederacy between
those who threw the stones and those who endeavoured
to keep the gate shut. lie, however, did not know such
fact of his own knowledge. Before they began to dis-
perse the people, there was a good deal of foul language.
—Before there was an attempt to disperse the people, at
the first shutting of the gate, there were some few
stones thrown, but they were not of any consequence.
The officer gwe orders to disperse the mob. He heard
the firing, but it was not where he was; he saw
no man fill ; he was at the time at the end of Edg-
ware-road. He remained at Cumberland-gate station
about twenty minutes after the corpse haul passed. They
formed again ;he was in the rear. He did not see the
officer amp trumpeter in COM ersAtion together. He did
not hear the crowd t•ay " there goes the two butchers
together." Ile heard no such cry. It was the duty of
the trumpeter to he in the front of the alvanced guard;
and to be with the officer only if called by Bush officer.
'l'hc trumpeter was a boy ; his name was Bishop, he
believed. lie did not positively know that his nante
was Bishop; he did not wish to tell a lie.
Coroner.—lle said nothing about being frightened.
Witness did not know the names of the soldiers inc.

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sent. The officer, Lieut. Gore—he was in fact sub-
lieutenant—gave the orders for the clearing away of the
people. They were not ordered to use violence; he had
said they were obliged to use violence in their endea-
vours to clear away the people. He did not see any
magistrate; he did not know the magistrates.
The Coroner's clerk then read his minutes over to the
witness.
The Coroner next said, that he had received a letter
from Col. Lvgon, dated Knightsbride-barracks, stating
that Corporal Ilaywood and Trumpeter Farmer had been
served with summonses, and would attend ; but that
the officers were absent. They would be served, and he
doubted not that they would be in attendance when the
jury next assembled.
Mr. Henson said, he could undertake positively to
promise that these would be in attendance when the
jury next assembled.
John Farmer, trumpeter, was then sworn and exa-
mined. He did not know what trumpeter was on duty
at Cumberland-ease. He did not see the patty go out,
nor come in. Ile was not there; he did not see who
was there. The youngest trumpeter in the troop was
aged 34; he was named Frederick Salamon ; that was,
he was the youngest appointment. There was no trum-
peter named Bishop. There was a learner of that name,
but he had nerer known that person to go out with the
troop. Bishop was not at the battle of Waterloo. He
was about 18 years of age. The lad Bishop was not
employed to do duty at the barracks—but he was not
nositively acquainted with this fact. He did not know
who was the orderly corporal on the 14th inst
The minutes having been read over to the witness, he
signed the document and withdrew.
William King, So. 18, Great Wild-street, Lincoln's
Inn Fields, sworn —lie saw a young gentleman, whom
he afterwards understood to be an officer, and his horse's
head was towards Cumberland-gate. This officer quite
wantonly, as witness conceived, for every thing was per-
fectly quiet, and t,o stones were throwing at the time, he
presented his pistol over his bridle arm towards the peo-
ple. When witness saw the pistol presented he changed
his position one pace, when at the same instant the de-
ceased fell. He stood so close to Honey that lie did not
know whether the contents of the pistol were intended
for himself or the deceased. He saw the Bash, and he
was so close to the person who fired that he had every
opportunity of recognizing his features as well as the pis-
tol with which he had fired. When he had discharged
the pistol he rode immediately amongst the soldiers. He
was a very young man, and wore no cloak not mantle.
Witness retreated and went down Oxford-street. Irl'heit
the firing bad ceased he came up again and saw the same
officer arranged in Cumberland-street, inside the trum-
peter, in the rank. Ile saw him conversing with the
trumpeter and a private of the corps in the rank on the
near side, whom he addressed with great familiarity, and
occasionally laughing. lie had since had an opportunity
of seeing the same officer at the Horse Guards. Last
Sunday week he saw him there, when the Life Guards
were relieved by the Blum He does not know his name,
but unless he was disguised he should be able to recog-
nise his person any where. It was between eleven and
twelve o'clock on Sunday week when he saw him.

Corporal Thomas Coulson, of theist regiment of Life
Guards, was next called in and sworn. He belonged to
Captain Al'Neale's troop. Ile knows nothing touching
and concerning the death of Richard Honey. Ile was
orderly corporal ou the 14th August. Capt. M'Neale's
troop is Troop C. lie does not know the names of the
men who were commanded by Lieut. Gore on that (lay.
Ile does not know the men. He does not know all the
men of his troop personally. lie received orders to send
a ccrtlin number of men out on that day, and he sent
the first he saw ; in the hurry he could not tell who they
were exactly. It was his duty to see whether the men
were present on the parade every evening. He believes
some of the men were wounded on the I4th; but lie
believes they were all present on the next evening pa.
rade. He is not sure upon that point. He could give
the names i he was at home.

In answe • to some further questions, he expressed
himself willing to give every assistance he could to the
Jury, and was directed to attend on Friday.
The Coroner said, he understood Mr. L•x-Sheriff Par-
kins and his servant were waiting to be examined.—
The ix• Sheriff was then called.

Joseph 'Wilfred Parkins, of in, Bridge-street, Black-
friars, sworn. The procession went on with great so-
lemnity and order until it arrived at Kensington turn-
pike-gate, near the church. When I arrived at Church-
lane, 1 tountl the place blocked lip with dung-carts and
waggons, and a great cotiColl MC of people standing round
and upon them, who cheered me, and exclaimed—"We
will go to the City." Lord Hood, who was very near,
spoke to me on the impediment anti obstruction of the
funeral, and suggested the propriety of sending a mes-
sage to Lord Liverpool, to communicate to him the
awkward state of the affair, and the utter impossibility
of getting tip Church-lane. I was requested to bear that
information to Lord Liverpool, o hers refusing so to do.
A gentleman offeriog to accompanying rue, 1 proceeded
to Lord Liverpool's, where I met Mr. Wilmot, who, I
think, said, " Lord Liverpool is not within." I then
informed hint (he knew who I was well) 1 had come
lions Kensington Church, where the funeral procession
was totally stopped, and that it was hardly impossible
to proceed through Church-lane; if they did persist
in going that way many lives would inevitably be lost;
and that those who persisted in it would have to answer
for the same. Mr. W 111110 L said he would communicate
that information to Loud Liverpool. The remaining
pan of Mr. Parkins's evidence, was wholly without io-
terest or novelty.
Joseph Thorn servant to Mr. Parkins, was next ea:l:d,
and eo•roborated his master's testimony in its leading
particulars,
Thomas Wilson was sworn.—His evidence in sob•
stance was the sante as has abeady been before our
renders from/other witnesses.
The Court then adjourned till two o'clock on Friday.

[NINTH DAY.]

On Friday, soon after two o'clock, the Coroner entered
the room, and the Jury being called over, kild answering
to their names,
Lieutenant Poland was sworn.—He was present at the
Queen's funeral, but knew nothing whatever concerning
the death of Richard Honey. lie did not see any indivi-
dual fire a pistol, but heard the reports of pistols. He had
heard of Honey's death, but knew nothing more of it.—
To a question from a Juror lie said lie had two brothers,
one in Germany, the other at school.

Joseph Bingham and George King were then examined,
but no new fact was established by either.
As soon as the examination of King was ended, the Co-
roner was informed that Capt. Oakes was in attendance.
He was immediately called in and sworn.

Mr. Adolphus applied to the Coroner to inform Captain
Oakes, that he was not bound to answer any question
that had a tendency to involve himself in a criminal pro-
secution.

-The Coroner immedi..tely told Capt. Oakes, that he
certainly was not bound to answer any question that had
that tendency.
Captain Oakes proceeded to state, in reply to the ques-
tions of the Jury, almost all of whom took a part in exa-
mining him, that he had himself no knowledge of Honey's
death ; a detachment of the Guards was under his com-
mand at the Queen's funeral ; Lieut. Gore does not belong
to his troop; does not know whether Lieut. Gore bad any
officer to assist him, nor whether he has at present any
leave of almnee. Lieut. Terry commanded at Hyde Park
Corner; saw the procession enter Hyde Park; does not
know whether the gates were opened by the soldiers.—
He then proceeded to state, that he was assailed with
brickbats and stones previous to coming to Cumberland
Gate, hot there ilia party were so violently attacked, that
lie was astonished how the men kept on their horses; from
that moment the men were in constant and excessive dam.
ger. He did not hear the Riot Act read.
Juror.—By whose orders slid the soldiers fire?
Witness.—l commanded the party, and if any orders
were given, it may be presumed they were given by me;
and I Nish to know am I to answer a question that may
lead to difficulties?
Mr. Adolphus.—lle declines answering.
The Juror who pot the question desired that the whole
answer should be taken down.

The Coroner said it was unnecessary ; it was sufficient
to say the witness declined answering the question.
The witness then proceeded.—After the hearse had en-
tered the Park, he passed it, and by great exertion suc-
ceeded in opening Cumberland gate. Lieutenant Gore's
squadron was on the other side of the gate. and might
have assisted. Witness's first order was to assist in bring.
ing the procession through the Park, Cumberland•gate,
and the Edgware toad, which was the prescribed route,
from which it had been previously forced by the mob;
did nut see it forced; but these we-e the terms of his
orders. He first joined the pt °cession at Kensington, and
told Sir Robert Baker lie was come to assist him. He
saw the procession turn into the Park, and followed it.—
He supposed Ile was following Sir Robert Baker.
A Juryman here observed, that several officers had
been examined, and stated that they could not tell the
names of the Guards who had been on duty that day—he
hoped Captain Oakes could do it.
Captain Oakes said, I am sorry I cannot assist you—
the men are called on duty by letters, and not by their
names; and after the duty is over, I do not know that the
names can he ascertained. The orderly corporal culls the
roll.

In reply to questions from a Juror, the witness said, lie
did not tell Sir Robert Baker that he would obey him, but
that he would assist him to bring the procession by the
prescribed route. If Sir Robert Baker said lie did not
want assistance, witness would have returned; and had
Sir R Baker, asked him to stay an hour longer than lie
himself thought necessary, be should have probably have
complied.
Sir Robert Raker communicated to witness his intention
of taking the procession through the city, if necessary, and
said he u could take the responsibility on himself. This did
not accord with the orders given to witness, and, in conse-
quence, requested of Sir R B. to stipend the execution of lois
into:tam until he (the witness) should communicate with
higher nuthority. The witness'r order; being to assist the
civil power in going a prescribed mote, he did nut thiuk
himself justified in going any oilier. Sir IL B. ngreed to 50...
peed the execution of his intention : witness in consequence
dispatched Lieut. Storey a ith a message.

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In reply to a question from a Juror, he stated tint Lieut.
Storey had not returned Kith an answer before the proces-
sion entered the Park.—The orders fur the procession were
given by Government, and lie did not conceive that either
Sir R. Baker or himself hail any posse, to deviate front the
route prescribed. Understottod from Sir Baker that it was
his awn act to deviate from the prescribed .route, and
thought it disobedience of maters. There were two of his
men scot from th•! ground quite incapacitated. The next
day there were thirty seven men on the stir...eon's list ; and on
further enquiry it was found that fiii ty•one had beer: wounded;
eight horses had hero wounded, and all this was done
before any firing had taken place, at least almost the whole
of it. When he considers his responsibility for the lies en-
trusted to his care, he scarcely thinks himself justified f, r
for the forbearance he used. There are two of the men :till
iu the hospital. The steadiness and regularity of the men
were far beyond what could have been expected.
Witness said brick-hats were thrown at him with great
violence on his first joining the procession at Kensington, and
the people shouted " Victory, %ivory—thank God we have
beat them once."

A Juror—l believe that s$ us after Sit Robert Baker hail
promised the people that the proce,sion should go through
the city.
Witness.—l can't tell what pronfses Sir R. Baker made.

The witness, in answer to t lie question of svveral Jurors,
said, there were few stones tlnuwo till lie advanced to Gros-
venor-gate ; from thence it continued to Cumberland-gate,
w here it s, as so violent that lie entered Oxford-street under
a shower of brick-bats from every direction, nail on arriving
at 'Tyburn-gate he f d u uu,A on both Limit', one behind
the arum railing, another belnnd a barn ier of waggons, tool it
Mink Of Is tree was placed behind Tyburn-gate to prevent its
bring forted ; these positions were so strong, that to submit
to the attack made by the ls mall be to sacrifice hi,
squadron tarry man, tool the 111"11 attacked us its such seen-
, that the pistol became the only alternative; and ;I. far
as lie could observe, they were tied di:441:1141 (I 111 the air with
a vine natter, to in item to retaliate. Th.• vs aggines
weir n•,aosed 110111 the Litgetvait-toad, it:lcr winds the

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