The National Register.
London, England, 1821-07-08 00:00:00

SECOND DAY•-•.FRIDAY, JULY G.

The Crunch re-assembled this 'twilling to hair the
continuation of the argument in support of her Majesty's
claiming to be crusv:n.d. Ttic Members of the Council
present were the same who atterirkd yesterday. At about
a qu•srter past ten the duets were thrown open, and in a
few minutes
Mr. BROUGHAM resumed his address. He recalled to
their memories the statement which he mad; on
Thursday, and now it would be his duty to apply
the facts to the case. He had prated the coronatiim of
Queens Consort to have been a .`sage throughout all
ages, and in no instance • had a married King been
crowned without the solemnity of coronation being ex-
tended to the Queen. There was on.. exception which
it was his busitiest,,lo notice—that of Cuadra 1. in which
he hail a right to astAtine that particular circumstances
had led to ale exexl•:io:. He contewied, however, that

- THIRD DAY.—SATURDAY, DULY 7.
At an early hour this ruing the avenues leading to
the Council Chamber, were thronged with Str.ltivrs,
311X10t14 to hear the •arkrument of the limg's A•tortie-
General against her Nlajesty's claim to be crowned.--
Long before eight o'clock the ante-room tV4, crowded.
A little .aller ten o'clock the Lid Chancellor arrived,
and in a few ininittes the Q.ietai's Cuwuel Wi re called Ir.
The King's Attorney-tioneral was hheb ordered to
proceed, and continued with his tag 1111 l sit till a licirter
after twelve, the S i!leitor G.oreral iron, and
spoke iii opposition to Cite cLini tor about threw Tem,: s
of an hoar.

At a quarter after one Mr. 13:lindiam emotnencril
reply, and co;:ciodue, shan,ters ithdreix,
ihe record•keerrs from the *lower were called in.--
The Council shortly after adjourned till Tuesday, tell
o'clock.

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HOU EOF LORDS.
lIONUA V, JI.LY 2.
The royal assent was given iry commission to the Lean
hill, the Exchequer Bills bill, the Irish Treasury Bills bill,
tee Bank of Ireland bill, the Wool Importation, the Irish
Trawler of Stock, the Navel Stores, Scotch Distilleries,
Scotch Malt Ditties, Wool Registry, Vagrant Laws Amend-
111Plit, County Rates, Justices of the Peace, East India
'Prude, Fur Trade Regulation, Salvage, British White
lieu ring Fishery, Irish Coal Yards, Thames Lastage and
Ballast, and several psivete comniiiseioners
were the Lord Chattrillor, the East of Shaftesbury, and
the Duke 111. Montrose.
r. R. Martin and several members from the Commons
brought itp the 11l treatment of Hordes bill, and several
otherios hick were read the first time.
llesenver LAWS BILL—Lord DACRE adverted le
the intention expreased by the noble and learned lord on
the woolsack, to introduce a measure to regulate the
bankrupt laws, and observed he should nut press the bill
alien before the honse.
The LORD CHANCELLOR then intimated his inten-
tion to submit to the house some regulation on that
jinenrialit subject, and gave notice that lie should bring
in Site bill next sea • of parliament.
'flue bills um the table were forwarded in their respective
stages.
On the motion of the Earl of LAUDERDALE, the
vs ((((( 1 leading of the 11l treatment of Horses bill was
fixed ler Wednesday.
Pviii.rc lir:so:sou v,_,Ste.—Earl DARNLEY rose on the
order ut the slay to address the house on the present state
sit the country. He said, he had to advert to the subject
ui ecuisiony amidst an apparent apathy on the part of use
nieuiliets of that house. The estimate* for the present
year were large beyond precedent, and to remedy the
evil strong measures were necessary. lie did not look to
any 11l I l 114IC curtailment iu the public expenditure. The
reties.% of small salaries in this or that departineut ass
nut has object. He felt convinced that government, by a
Kernels i fort to pi mole economy, might save millions.—
The tether cart then adverted to the present state of the
navy, which lie considered much higher than the public
requii ed. They had TS ships of the line and 67 frigates
in situ' nine of the line were building. This
force occasioned an expence which might be reduced.
and a considerable saving effected. 'the reduction of
stork-yin d, which lie lerstutel was in contem-
plation, would produce a saving alone of 149,2901. Build-
ing ships and conveying timber to the Thames produced
r:11 entre mous sum. On that expence alone a deductiou of
half a million lulled be lopped off. He then came to the
great national wutk at Sheerness. The works already
done might satisfy the country, without adding 280,00011.,
the elm to be paid this year. He supposed at least
40,0001. might be deducted from the estimate. In the
naval department a saving of at least 800,0001. might be
effected.—With regard to the army, he could not help
thiiiking many retrenchments might be made. The horse
and tout guards occasioned an expence of 315,0001. He
could not help thinking his Majesty was surrounded by
more imards ilia° necessary. On that head of service
Bd,oool. inigkt be deducted, and lease a force sufficient
for She assistance ef the police. Deductions in the inten-
tly and yeomanry might also be made, and prudence a
deduction altogether of 400,0001. 'The sum of '250,0001.
was voted fur the expence of barracks. He thought a
seviiig might be made on that item. Instead of -4;0,0001.
1b3,0401. might be sufficient. Upon the army alone there
might be a deduction of 700,04101. If those also said
y was their object would eider into all the details,
they might proceed to a sale of lands and buildings which
had never been of any use. If economy was the object,
there could be no doubt that a saving of 10 per cent.
might be made in every department of gover 1111 l rise lie
then adverted to the civil list—giving the Monarch all
the splendour due to Isis dignity, nothing could add more
to the satisfaction of the people than sacrifices on the part
of the crown. lie did nut wish to be invidious, but lie
was sure a great reduction Mehl take place in that head
of expenditure. Tee expence of foreign ministers per-
haps was slut more than necessary, but when a crisis ass
approaching, like that which he was persuaded would
soon happen, ministers ought to 'wench to the utmost,
and a saving of at least 2,000,e001. might be effected. In
the expence occasioned by the collection of the revenue
at least half a million might be saved. The noble earl
concluded by moving that an humble edifices be pre-
sented to his Majesty, imploi 1l i iii to take into his most
serious consideration the difficulties and distresses of the
country, end praying his Majesty to give directions to
diminish the expellees in all the great departments of
state, ate.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL slid nut object loan address
to his Majesty to pt °mote economy, but lie differed upon
the terms used by Lot d Dartiley, and proposed another
address, " to *were Ilia Majesty that die house regarded
with sensfaction the reduction made this year in the cus-
toms, •sad bi geed that similar investigation may be made
in all Wenches of the pubiic expenditure ; and to beseech
hie Majesty to order uuquiry into the civil departments,
with a s of making eves), possible reduction in the
eaprilee of ges at establishments which the country is
'Aimed to nosintain," Ace.

411tO,NEISOR gave his decided preference to the
mo'llllll4 tits noble lib nil (Earl Darnley.) lie had beard
time inutile eat I state to the noose oil former occasions the
•ery same mast's AllteS they had jibt heard from ltim. The
sinews of war were to be tomtit wily in the ptusperity of
the count, Gaudy sliowe and Mittel fly exhibittuna
xs until nl bi come the dt.tiessy• of a nation already borne
mist mi by dist' ; and nothing could mute fit only esta-
blish his Maim sty uu thetldune 'hats et. Thin brought
Inns to the et-lemony winch was slimily to lake place.
He consideted the advice given tot seintle the Queen
limn the CU1L.14,111011 Admitting the
law to be cleat agaiust ite CI ow Mug of the thiceit, amid her
Maje•ly had co light to be present, still, under the peen-
bat CllClSlllStallet's of the country, the advice given to
l'Sclitile her was injudicious. He knew it was said his
Dlisjesty conl.l set a•lde cointiation of the queen by
the precedent et Henry t,ie Seventh ; but he believed it
would appear the marrisige •1 that Monarch did nut take
place mold atter the corm,dttuil, and it so, it would furnish
lii) precedent. He had bet it always of opinion, that unless
the coronation WAS without Mffilid lie it Matti and
Idle pageant. Thi• life and chum of the cereneutiy would
Ile the ;;will w hdies of ills' people; hilt, above all, he was
disposed to depts. este the tittp:oy meld of soldiers. In In.

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opinion, there could tout be a greater insult to the
and the people than saying the Monarch should not ,
bonally show himself to Ins subjects, but walk along
platform amidst troops, surrounded only by the military
and a host of bayonets. He knew it would be said that
soldiers usually attended these ceremonies. He would
say, let them attend, but not be placed to obscure the
splendour of the ceremony.
Lord MELVILLE defended the arrangements made in
the naval department, and contended that due attention
had been paid to economy is that branch of that service.
After some further discussion, Lord Darnley's address
was rejected, and that moved by the Earl of Liverpool
agreed to.—Adjourned.
TUESDAY. JULY S.
The Chancellor of the Excheyner, and several members
from the Commons, brought up the bill to make further
provisions for his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence,
which was read the first time.
The Earl of LtkUDEIIDALE said, although lie dill not
mean to oppose the grant to his Royal Highness the Duke
of Clarence, there were smite parts of the bill on which,
at a future stage, he should make a few observations.
Several bills on the table were read a third time and
passed. The other bills were forwarded a stage, and the
Imlay adjourned.

WEDNESDAY. JULY 4.
ILL.TRZATMENT OF HORSES' ISlLL.—Several petitions
were presented in favour of the ill-treateneut of horses'
hill- They were severally read, and laid on the table.
The Etil of LAUDERDALE, adverting to the bill to
which the above petitions referred, observed that it was
difficult for the house to entertain such a measure. The
law, as it stood, was sufficient to punish cruelty to ani-
mals. Until he had heard some peer come forward to
move the second reading, he should take no lisrther no-
tice of the bill.

The following bills, passed last night in the House of
Contntons, were brought up by Mr. Brogden and other
members, who had been deputed fur the purpuse.—Tho
lotteries bill, the Irish stamp duties, exchequer bills, pub-
lic works, customs relief, appropriation, tobacco ditties,
stud bankreptcy courts, which were read the first time.
The Duke of Clarence's grant bill was read the second
time, and committed for to-morrow.
HUSBANDRY HORSES BILL—The Earl of LAUDER-
DALE said, he should postpone any observations he had
to make on this bill until the third reading, as by that
time lie expected some revenue returns would be laid on
the table.

A petition was then presented from Bridewell Precinct,
by the Earl of Shaftesbury, in favour of the ill-treat-
ment of horses bill.

The EA..' of Carrington presented a similar petition
from St. Andrew's in the Wardrobe.

Petitions were also presented from the merchants of
London and Clapham, by Lord Melvile ; from Southamp-
ton, by the Earl of Carnarvon ; from Whitby, by Lord
Amherst ; and from Brighton and Hastings by the Earl
of Limerick.

The lunatics trustees bill, the mohair bounties, and the
warehousing bill, were read the third time.
The Irish silt bounties, the Irish customs collection
bill, the hops exportation bill, the Isle of Man trade, and
captured slave vessels bills, passed through committees.—
The house then adjourned.
/VA' 5.
The claim of the Earl of Latium, and the Marquis of
Donegal, to vole at the election of Irish peers, wits allowed.
The order for the attendance of me judges, in this house
to morrow, to decide in the case of KIIIIIChr, Woolf, and
'niters, was discharged, and fixed again fur Nlonday.
Mr. Mason, from the East India Home, ',restated an ac-
count relative to salaries and disbursements.

Lord CALTHORPE presented a petition front Hull, in
favour of a bill to prevent the ill treatment of horses, which
was read and laid on the table.

The bills before the house were severally forwarded in
their respective stages.
Tun Dyne or C &&&&& cies Gas ar.—The Earl of
LAUDERDALE addressed the house on the subject of the
bill for making additioual provision for his Royal flightless
toe Duke of Clarence. The noble eatl approved of the
grant, on the ground that the other house had given a sum
which might be considered the filed and regular allowance
which ought to be made to all the royal dukes. He then
adverted to the case of another illustrious person, the Doke
of Cumberland, who certainly was ,placed in a situation
which did not prove the justice and consistency of podia
went. The noble earl considered the claim of that royal
per.onage to the liberality of parliament equal to any other,
and unless there was a justifiable departure from the panel.
pies he had heforestated,of makingune bird provision for the
royal dukes, the Duke of Cumberland's claim could not be
passed over. if ministers did not sul such a propositiou
to parliament, he had still in his own hands the power of
moving an address to his Majesty, st.ding the grounds on
which grants to the royal faintly should he made. In Case
he found it necessary, he should certainly move such address,
and whatever might be the result. he should have the salts-
factioa of reflecting that he bad d • his duty.
The Earl of LIMERICK agreed to every thing that had
fallen from the noble earl.

The bill was then committed for to•morrow, and the house
adjourned.

FRIDAY, aoLv 6.
The LORD CHANCELLOR unended the house (hit
day soots after tour o'clock.

71flie Enrl of Sli A FIESBURY presented a petition. put
into his hand by R. ftlurtut, M. P. tor Galuay, from Chip
%sell. tit the couuty of Esws, in favour of the bill to puni,h
nail pr.•vrnt cruelty to utornals.—The petition was read and
laid ou the table.

The nsbessed tries' bill was read a third time.

The Dube of Clarence's bill passed through a committee,
was agreed to wit hunt iimendnient, and repotted to the house.
The appropriation bill, the hanks opt( y court bill, the
custom-Moose officers' hell, the exchequer hills bill, the me.
sropolis police bid, the lottery hill, the Irish stamp duties'
bill, and the tobacco duties bill, were severally cooauitted.
The house then adjourned to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
140N1lAY, JULY 2.

The house was summon, d to attend the house of Peers,
to hear the royal Abetilt given' by commission to sundry bills.
(See Lords 1
The bankruptcy court bill went through a committee.—
Iteiiort to morrow.
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A person from the tVretmineter•bridge commissionen pre•
'rifled their anno..l
Mr. AR BUTHNO 1 prevented certain accounts relative to