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nonsigned to them, and they ushally said that the
proper time would arrive for a statement of their
conduct. Well, the day of reckoning was nearly
at hand, when their own time of explanation would
• arrive.—(Hear, hear.)—lndeed in private conver-
sation they said, st What signifies four voices
against 600 ?" Well then, like Esop, let us light
the candle, and see if we cannot get four others
who will do their duty better.—(Cries of " Brava!")
—The worthy Gentleman concluded by moving a
string of Resolutions--(for teLich see Adeerrise-
meas. )
Mr. WAITIMAN rose to second this motion. This
was not, he said, a question of argument, for no
Dna% except the grossest and most corrupt dupe,
doubted that Ministers took advantage of the situa-
tion of the people, in a season of great distress, to
suspend their liberties, and in that manner stifle
their irresistible complaints.—( Hear, hear.)—To
justify this measure no arguments had been made,
nor could any be anticipated ; none, therefore, were
required from the advocates of the people in sup-
port of their natural rights. He considered that
the law of the laud was fully sufficient for the iwe-
serestion of the public tunquillity, when the Mi-
nister* thought proper to call for fresh powers. If
the Constitution were only to have existence when
every thing was quiet, where was the necessity of
calling on people to defend the rights it gave if
they were refused the exercise of them in the only
moment they could want them—a season of griev-
ance and complaint ?—(4pplaisse.)—The com-
plaint of the Livery last yeti' was against the Suspen-
sion Act : in addition to this, they had now to com-
plain of the conduct of Ministers during the suspen-
sion. They had to complain that Inindreds of their
fellow-subjects were torn from their families—put in
4lutigeoess and in irous—aod kept so fur months, to
their ruin, and then discharged untried and un-
heard. It mattered little that some of these men
sere of a low station in life, or what their numbers
were; the Ilial of the liberty of the subject was
bruught to issue in the case of a single individual,
like that of Mr. Jenks, as much as if 1,000 had

suffered.—(//ear, hear.)-IVhat defence had Mi-
nisters in mike for such conduct ► The new edi-
tion of the Green Bag—(Larighterj—ltrl tome out
last night in the House of Lords, and it did not
disclose a single fact or circumstance that the pab-
lic not already in possession of. The plan of
Ministers was entirely exploded by the discovery
of the hired spies, on whose information so many
beings had been incarcerated. This premature ex-
posure on the stage prevented the performers, who
were intended to be kept behind the scenes, from
afterwards being able to play their parts in the
farce, or, indeed, rather in the tragedy, and thus
-the business was entirely destroyed. If it had not
been for the fortunate discovery of Oliver and his
plot, pier men might have been put on tend upon
their evidence, and perhaps convicted. The disco-
very, however, defeated this purpose. The same
fa►ce had 'been played off twenty yeses ago, but
then the actors were more skilful Buau. the present
ones, for they kept the machinery wholly out of
sight.—(lleur, hear, mid a langh.)—The late Sus-
pension Act passed certainly at ■n unprecedented
period in every respect, and at no former period was
so much► oppression and injustice exercised under it—
it was exercised-ina millStitt as wanton air it was cruel,
fur the unfortunate sdtferers were discharged when it
Ivas foun&by the explosion of the spy system that
they could not be brought to trial—nut as they ought
'to have beets discharged, in an unconditional m.rn-
t►er, but upon harassing recngssizances.—.(Hear.)—
After this another Green Bag Committee was
formed, which, even in the House of Commons
itself, was called a humbug—(a laugh,l—for the
persons composing it, to inquire into the conduct
of Ministeis, consisted of Ministers themselves,
their Placemen and Pensioners, with a few solitary
exceptioiss.—(l/eur, hear.)—Ele had often been

-argued away from pressing o question, by its bring
paid, " 0! leave this to the judginent and wisdom of
Pat {lament—fa lough)—Fur if you preen this
point, the effect wol be to degrade Parliament in
the public estimation." Ile would now ask. if
Parliament was degraded iu the public "etiolation,
by ninon bad that degradation been effected ?
I Icor. )—W as it by the acts of Parliament itself,
or by the people who complamed of them ?—(Hear,
/sear.)—Wmild the worthy Gentlemen behind him
(soy Airrohers for the City—of course, excepting
Mr. Able/man Wood) now complain of any thing
cot of duo's? Would they, who night after night
Art by Aliviisters, and voted fur all their acts, now
come forwaid and tux the people with ottesupting
to bring Parloonent into coutenipt ? No; they
would uot venture to tread on spelt tender ground.
—(Applaase.) -Wherever the people, goaded on
by spies and sufferings, had beets driven to acts of
violence, then the evil was louldly complained of;
but the distresses which led to it were overlooked,
and .of the !housefuls of Petitions presented to Par-
liameut, complaining of bitter mid heavy griev-
ances. not a single our had ever been refered to a
Committee.—(Hear, hear.)—'the day of retribu-
tion for the men who did these acts was how sit
head; it was for some persons, doubtless, an in-
couvenient moment, and like their parliamentary
predecessors, who voted their term of sitting from
three to seven year., he was sure the present good
folks would, in a like manlier, be glad to make 1111
experiineut to prolong their duration irons seven to
fourteen years.—( Hear, hear, and a laugh./
Ile had 'usually moved isistructions to their Retire-
'misusers on occasions of this kind, but he would
nut on the present leave it to the City Members to
"y• it tin' pleased, what they meant to do on this
sinestion. He would slot new expose the Livery to
repetition of the insults some of their 'Members
bad Barred them by a refusal to attend to their in-
mrt"'lmmiss (Hears) —These worthy men, 041 former
oi caissons, had set their own judgments up against
those of their entire constituents; they might ros-
sibly have more talrots, and its a certain place these
wears were a marketable coinniodliv.—(A laugh.)
—Let them at utice avow this opinion, and then the
I.lvery must how in obedience to the feeling of their
Representatives. This would ba a more candid
course, tliaii• to treat their constituents with stale
jokes Lid pantominucal grimaces, which,
'n though
they ay provoke a laugh for the inontria, w
yet unseal thy of any upright man in the dsischarge
of ht. insh:ic duty. He concluded by seconding
the Mot ( Applause.)
Air. SCIIULTES 144144 dud the offended justiee
anal viola's I vosilidence of the cosiotry, called for
on smolt) into the conduct. of Ali:niters during

the suspension a the Habeas cape, Act.— (Mir,
hear.)—.The Great Choler secured to the people
the exercise of their lilwrties—and a eiolatioa ,if
this right, finless specially andclearly Mended,
was in fact nothing else than, on the part of the
Minister, a derlaration of war against the people.
A anepension of the liberties of 13,000,000 of peo-
pte called for a clear and unequivocul justifica-
tion—(Hear, hear)—und an inquiry could alone
effect this purpose. Let the Mowers act on the
good maxim, " Do unto others us you would others
should do unto yon."—(Hear, hear.)—He feared,
however, that their plan" were devised in a con-
clave where female cowmen:as had the chief sway.
He that as it may, the influence of the Livery of
London in the expreasion of their Opinion, must
have powerful weight all over the country, and he
was glad there was this opportunity of manifesting
it.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. WILLI Alll4 appeared in front of the hustings,
and was received with much disapprobation. Ile
entreated the Livery would pause and wait for the
result of a patient inquiry before they passed a vote
of censure on Ministers; before they decided they
were wrong, let them first consider whether they
were guilty. They were charged with hiring spies
to -convict innocent men.—( Hear, hear.)—This
was a great mid heiiious charge.—(Near, hear.)—
Let tts 'consider their private characters.—(A
isegh.)--They have passable characters —(A laugh)
—and woulfl not be guilty of rush conduct. l.et
any Gentleman come forward on oath and prove the
allegations against the Ministers, and then he would
consent to a motion of the present --[Here the up-
roar became so violent, that the worthy Gentlemen
was obliged to desist.)
Mr. WOOLEN though he came forward to move
an amendment to the present motion' begged to
Ire considered as concurring in the Resolutions
that had been moved, so far us they went ; his only
objection was, that they did nut go far enoegli—
they were not commensurate with the important
circunistancea of the case, or the loud and general
condemnation which Ministers deserved for their
conduct.—(Hear.)—For a time last year some
men (he was not of the number) gave credence
to the language of Ministers; yet now, when
their whole story was out, was there any in-
tention to be paid to such declarations ? The
Ministers had boldly set out with declaring that the
existing laws were insufficient to maintain the inter-
nal tranquillity of the country. They were right
to say that these laws were not strong enough—not,
indeed, for the people, as against their external
enemies—but for the people, as against their Minis-
ters.—(Hear.)—There was danger, there was trea-
son in the country—but the danger was in the
continuance of his Majesty's Ministers in office,
and the treason was in the effort to keep them
there.—(Hear.)—The Ministers were determined
to preserve their emoluments, and they could not
do this withont a sacrifice of the Constitution,—
(flear.)—lt was true that disaffection did exist
iu parts of the country—the sufferings of the people
created it—yet their complaints were not directed
alpinist the Constittnion, but against the evils tinder
which they groaned.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—After
all, what hail Ministers done to substantiate
• the charges they lied brought against the whole
nation ? Even the evidence on which their
Green Bag Report was to he founded, though got
up by themselves, they could not venture to
let open to the public eye.—(Hear, hear.)—What
man of rank, or tolent, or connection, had ,Ministers
attempted to imprison or impeach ? They confined
their attacks and imprisonments to the humblest
individuals, whom they thought were unable to de-
fend themselves.—(hear.)—Their whole proceed-
ings would disgrace, in petty malignity, the acts of
any Algerine State. The case of the unfortunate
Riley had been alluded to, and lie knew from is
fellow prisoner of that unfertaluste man, that he
mid another were ordered iu to clean away the blood
iii the dungeon where the suicide had been just
committed.--( Cries of" Shame:")—On the sub-
ject of any thing to he expected at the ensuing elec-
tion, he had only to say, that he altered from those
who looked forwaid to such a mowed ; the nature
of theve.elections was too well known to be a fal-
lacy for the people to indulge any expectation of
their interest being consulted in the general result.
The Resolutions with which lie meant to conclude
were intended rather to rouse the public feeling
than to make any impression us. the opinion of
Parliament.

The worthy Gentleman concluded by moving a
series of Resolutions, as an Amendment to the ori-
ginal ones. They were to the nine effect, but
couched in much stronger terms.
Mr. HUNT came forward to second the Amend-
ment, and was received with great applause. He
said that be was induced to second them from a
necessity of using the strongest terms that could
possibly be applied to the conduct of Ministers.
The language of the original Resolutions was that
which had been used in vain for the last twenty
years,-it was now high time to speak out.—
(Hear.)--What would they say of a physician who
continued to apply only common palliatives as the
disorder of Inv patient increseied ?—why, they would
say, that, instead of connoting the deaculum plans-
ter, he should put on a blister, and if that would
not do, the patient should be bled. Now, these
amended Resolutions were intended to blister the
Ministers.—(Loud loughter.)— [Mr. Haut here
took occasion to advert in detail to a transac-
tion alluded to in the Amendment, namely,
the conduct of the Court, and all the parties en-
' gaged in the trials at Derby. Ile animadverted
UllOll them in the severest terms, and alined the.
charges against the individuals, on which he ground-
ed his strong censure.l—lle said that the people
alluded to should not have been tried at Derby,
where their riots had created a strong impression
against them. He recollected that Lord Kenyon
removed the case of Mr. ‘Vtiddington, fora trans-
action relative to hops, front Kent, where the far-
mers were coueeived prriodiced, to London, where
no such opinion was pre.formed on the merits of the
case. Why not have wives the Defendants the same
advantages at Derby ?—(Haar.)—As to the Peti-
tion they were shout to vole, it would be of no use ;
it might be put into the green bag, where, peshaps,
the worthy Alderman (Curti,) would have to decide
upon it.—( Laughter.)
Mr. FATELI. hoped this Amendment would not
by pres,,Al, thon;;li he admitted it had been
twilight lorward in an io:len and regular manner.
The original ltutulutions nett: strong enough, and