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LANCASTER ASSIZES, AUGUST 41.

VOW MT.
Thames Adamson, twill 35, was indicted t.r
fnneeer on a walcio-care, the stamp used be
Ito.• assayer of -;old in slw city of Chester. This
rosisctinent forsuled mi 58 Geo. 111. C. 159 , s. 7.
Irte Act milnwea the massofactorere of gold w.,re to
Vie f.r tier standard of -22 carats to 18 carats,
I rovirtil itiat all gold ware should be certiti-d
iiii4 Plionstir.l value, by assayers appointed by the
Coostortiv of Goldsmiths, and having their offices
us York, &tort, Bristol. Chester, Nortek!), or
Neweastle-manta-Tene. All the operative of gold
in Liverpool get their works assayed in Chester.—
Tlle elsatrer against the Prisoner, a watch-vise
m..ker to Lierrnool, was, that he had forged the
Chester assayet's stamp, which was a Crown, and 18
under it, on the left a leopard's head, on the right
t sword and three sheaves (the Chester Armr), and
below the letter T. (which was • variable part of the
stump, n new letter being successively adopted every
)ear), indicating the year 1817.
Lewis Sistnnel proved that he bought the watch
in the itsdictioent from one Rigby, and got a new
ease made to it by the Prisoner. He then sold it
to James Goodell Helsby, a watch-este maker in
Liverpool. Ile could nut swear to the identity of
the case produced with the case made by the Pti-
@otter. Iwreu.e he had afterwards give. it to Birch
to have it pulaslwd. Birch was not a witness.
James Gooden Helsby stated, that he bought the
watch, of which the 'casein question formed a part,
from Samuel ; and he, with 'even other persons,
went to the Prisoner, and said the stamp appeared
not to be ge se. The Prisoner proposed to have
it sent to Chester, in order to ascertain whether it
was so or not ; he admitted the workmanship to be
his. This mail was rigidly cross-ezannined, and he
admitted that he had bought stoles goods frond She
Prirmer (but he had returned it before it war
irked) ; he denied, however, that he ltd troy
prospect of gaining any customers by the 111111 of
the Prisoner : he was nut aware that his father
was one of a committer formed for proaecuting
the Prisoner.

Mr. Walker, the assayer in Chester, clearly ttroved
that the stamp in question was a forgery, He had
been appointed assayer in 1809 to wavered his
father. The first appointment was during pleasure;
he was afterwards re-appointed every year. lie
In! taken the oath required only at his first air
pointment.
Mr. Cams and M►. WILLIAMS argued, that
since the Act required in oath on the past of the
assayer, snore the indictment charged the forging
of the assayer of Chester's stamp. and **nice the
witness had not taken the oath since his appoint.
ment for the specific year, the iodic►meot could
not be maintained. The Learned Judge agreed to
reserve this point in case it were sweessery. A
second point urged was, that the original Chester
stamp flag Itot produced, but only a copper-plate un-
pres•ion, and therefore the evidence could not cor-
respond to the indictment. His Lordship thought
that the original had been produced in the Oid
B itley. It war replied that the original plate. &c.
were never required in the case of Batik notes,
and that the original stamp would both he useless
in that Court, and most injurious to the trade if
re.nuved from Chester. where it was its constarit
use. His Lordship thought this a matter of fact
for the consideration of the Jury.
Mr. Cau•s next eudeavoured to spew. by cross.
examiniog Sir. Walker. that the crows aid IM.
which were common to all assay stamps in England.
Ireland, and Scottai,d. might be a genuine impres-
sion, though not from the Chester office. Mr.
Walker admitted that it might be a genuine im-
pressois from Edinburgh or Dublin, as lie had
never seen their stamp,. The crown and 18 being
the only part charged iii the indictment, M►. Cross
seemed armpits to push this point to the utter-
most. `• D•r you lwlieve that this may he a genuine
impression :'•—`• No, I do not."—rr you minus
be sure that it is trot ?"--., No ; I irate said so,
but I have no doubt upon the subject; if there
were a loop to hang a doubt on, 1 should be most
happy to snake use of it.'—`• 0, Mr. Walker.
don't misunderstand me, as if I insinuated any
thing to she contrary ; I have had the pleasure of
knowing you in Chester—(in a lower lone) Mr.
Walker was our friend at the election." This pos.
*Utility of genuitiruess was also left for the coital-
deration of the Jury.
The Prisoner ascribed the prosecution to the
enmity of Helshy.
Two witnesses were called, who stated that they
had always worked for the Prisoner; that he had
no counterfeit stamps, and could nut have them
without their knowledge; and that the case in
qur•non bud bents sent In Chester, as all other
wares mere sea by the Prisoner. He had always
sent gild to be assayed to Mr. Maduck, who srus
employed in forwa►ding the goods of many watch.
cape makers. and others. to Cheater. They were
sure that lie had pent the cruse in question.
The hest character was given to the Prisnuer for
honesty and fair dealing. He ha* a wile and family.
lie had surreisitered himself voluntarily fur trial.—
Ayr Gailly.—Discharged.

!timidity evening, as one of the Edmonton stntes
was paiseug near the Exchange it was stoltleuly
owertun'ed in consequence of the axle-tree break-
ing. There were several passengers on the ontside,
as well as three persons inside of the coach ; lint
they all providentially escaped with little iujitry.
Ditritig the 'affluent of confusion which the 11,1 :-
dent occasioned mune villain stole the rm,chni
l.a?, whir, and box-coat, with which he made
clean l•ff.
().,e of the onthorized collectors for the body of
turn-out i•pinoe•l called at a rtve,•ctahle public-
!move in lisle-street on IVerinesdar and astir('
relief of the landlady, when she gave 3g., which he
*reined to Cuter as such iu his book. On going
out, the latllowl. ,vhn ww, not wi!hin at the time,
suet Into, and inquired ;r hr had got •osnuthit:g ; Ae
to-sweetql in :he allfir:lt.obve ; awl the I•tuillors1
asks,: him to go in at; rift, and he should have a gill
al., „ism which he sat &MO, and the '
gist his book, wishing to know how he sort:cede:4,
when In het H.tenishinestt he lostod the honcst col-
lector bait entered hunt AN having given hi n
1c• Lave lona * tepnitiond and ()Marti! to
.110 11401 t.

- - -
lIISTIOCUTION OF PRIZE MONEY.
The Ettrinhos and Goree, fur ihe Sr.Nartrulay, on the 4th
inrinnt, al No. :S, Fleet-ntrert. Recalls ram plarei every
blonde) and Friday, for three Monate.

A reed-rlres."l mon blew out his brains en Saone-
day lost in tire of Versailles. In his pocket a
note was food mill two letters for hu faintly, Whn
reside in Pm Tl‘, note Willi I'olllllrd in the fol-
lowing words :—" Alt mimerx BARTMER, Iny sge
is .23 years 111111 ri If I Woe out illy Intone it
is nut fruits *dist ; it 14 that has driven rue
10 it."

'EDUCATION of Ac LOWGR ORDERS.

(eonlintied from oar Paper of aesferday.)

(John Carlin, Esq.'s, CI antimalion ogneladed.)

Have you premised any disinclination, 'on the part nfthe
ehiljrcu of the Irish Catholics to ■tternl the school ? —Nut
say on the part of the rhililien.
Nor of the parental-1 ski not rrenflert an instance.
Are them children mostly of Catholic pitrents!—l shoild
think the majority of them; Nu qmstion has been askeil,lritt
I believe the majority are.
Have ally ilitliessllies occurred i■ the inswdort of this
school ?—t'te hail uo•'rrslswd that the Catholic Priest, the
II v. Mr. Horrahin, Mole i.oirre objections; ill ronsciiiteisee
of that nisilerstautliiitz, I waited Urn& him with another
gessitem
VI tits whom ?—rfith Mr. Marsh; who waited upon him
with myself to aseertain his objections., and to solicit his at-
tention oust patrouage to the school; we invited hint to at-
tend it, can bbb bIP hall its merits, and sec how far lie could
auppiist it *ills propriety.
Did he make ally objections to the school ?—Yes ; he ob-
jected to it ■■ being contrary to Lis ideas of the manner in
which Catholic children should be editated ; bat I suppose
there had been a gond deal of misrepresentaliuu.
Did be snake any speridc objection to the atuuutgement of
this school'-1 rats 04111 rely say that be slid.
Did he object to the Scriptisies being rend'—He did, in
a louse and purrs! way at the kit visit; at the second
visit, he objected decidedly; but the Not time, I tooter-
stood him to say, that he did Dot go so fur as Dr. Poynte►,
who objected no the Bible being made a ochool.look; at the
itecund lime, he told is he should prefer Machin the chil-
dren from Murray's reading lessons.
Have any me. • hems taken by any Ate Catholic
Priests In persuade the parents tint to moil their children to
this school !—I apprehend so; because I understand "that
be has denounced list school from the pulpit or the altar, I
do not know whirls; lie certainly made great profesaious of
liberality tons.
Did you state to Min that yon had heard of such dentin.
elation ?—I told him we were informed if it, and th.it was
see reason why we waited 111/4/11 him, to remove au
impressiou of our comfort ; the groiiiiil of his nsisappre-
itemise% I believe, arose Fiona associating our kelwol with
Mr. Fimsegaii's, is St. Giles's.
flea your school any COIIII.IOOB with Mr. Finnegan's, in
St. Giles's ?—Not the smallest ; we asked Mr. Finnegan
Dome testestiese as to the conduct of the school, soil how to
proceed; he attended someof our Aral Committees as a vi-
sitor, and gave us a Mutation.
Have any attempts been made to proselyte those children
to Protestant priscipks ?—Nut the sinallist ; we disavow
the idea of any such thing.
Mare say*? the assuagers any such iiitention ?—1 believe
I mae owner foe every out of them, that they have never
attempted I. the least to do any such thistle.
Mr. Samuel Marsh called in, and *rambled.

Mere 4o you live T—l■ Mansell-street, Guodoom's fields
How loos bare you lived io that part of Ilse toy/10—
About VI yews.
Too are of t►e society called Friends !—Yes.
Too are of t►e Committec of the Last Limb's Trish Free
Skims' am. . _

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Did rig brar what the last witness has stated to the Coin.
saitteel—.Yes.

Do you agree in what he has stated think, what he
has slated i. quite correct.
Did you accompany Mr. Cartill to the Rev. Mr. Marra.
Mo's?--Buils times.
Do you recollect any further particulars than thane which
Mr. Carlin has staled?—ln the best visit his objection to
the Bible bring read war to consequence of it having a differ.
cut interpretation hum theirs; be laid much stress upon
our translatiott being dilrereat from theirs.
Did be esplaist is what the differeoce consisted !—lle did
sot; but be objected teuerally to the Protestant Version.
Mr. Benjaatiu Standriog caned in, and szninined.

Maitre do you live-182, !theories.
Are you upois the Committee of the East London Irish
Free &Soot sus.
Have you heard what eit other gentlemen have stated?...
Yes • mid I acquiesce in their statement.
Yes;
you say other particulate to Mate to the Committee
with respect to she kited. rent* of the Catholic Priests ?-••
have ow, except ou sue oecesiou ; when I visited the
school, two of the Priest., the Rev. Mr. Horrabiu mid the
Rev. Mr. Harper were present. They objected generally to
our teaching the children from the Protestant version of
the Scriptures.
Had you any particular conversation wills them upon that
subject?—No, I disclaimed any intention oil our part to
proselyte the children; and I asked them, whether by put-
ting a New Testament info their hand., and bringing them
into regular habits by affordiug them instruetiou, did not
make them better member* of society.
Were those children in a very destitute state before you
took them into the school'-Their appearance indicated
that they were is a very destitute state; they were dirty and
ragged.
Has their appearance beer Improved ?—Tes ; they come
regularly to the school, their habits are much more decent
than they used to be, and their appearance improved.
Mr. lames Wilson called ter, sled eavivskert.

Teo are neater of the East 141011011 Irish Free School !
Tr'.

Have you met with any obstruction i■ prosecuting the
basilicas of your school?—Yes, 1 have.
State to the Committee what obstructions you have met
with?-1 have met with obstruction and opposition from a
Catholic cleraysnan d Virginia-street, the Rev Mr. Horra.
bin, and also from the Rev, Mr. Thompson; they caution.
ed their comiregltion I times not to send any of their
children to my school.
Wert you present upon any occasion when any a those
Priests so cautioued the parents of the children ?--1 was.
Slate to the Committee what was the nature of that tan-
tion?—Tbe Rev. Mr. Hurrabin told Ida coogreptiou on the
Ist of March, that my school was for the purpose of prose-
lytise( children to Methodism.
Are you a Methodist !—Nu; and that it was exactly simi-
lar iu Its intention to that of Mr. Finnegan's, in St. Giles's.
Did be weary particular expression, signifying his distil'.
',robot iota of tht school ?—Nothing ware than by expressing
it in this way, that the purport of the school was the mme
as that of Mr. Fawners's, is St. Gilds ; ■nd he threatened
that he should nut administer the Sacrament to ally parents
oho Mot their Children to that orbool.

Was this front the pulpit or the altar'—From the altar.
Did you take city sacastucti its cuesseg of this pro-
ceeding; did you remonstrate with bOn privrtely, or report
to the Committee ?-1 never did, till he ranee to the 'trona ;
1 reported it to the Committee, aid they waittd upon hint
in consequence.
Du you know sat thing more that pained of yottr own
knowledge'-1 do not know any thing more, except that the
aforesaid clergyman went to the parrots of the Cobolic
children round that district, cautioning them, as previously
mentioned, mot to seed their children so the school.
Do you know ibis to be the ihica ?-1 do.
Flow did you learn that ?—The parents told me, and also
the children when they mat to the school: he sent fbr the
children from the school, cud told therm that they should
nut come to it. I beg to state to the Committee, that we
have mourn for near 400 children, If they ei,old get permis-
sion from the Catholic cle►gymen to rouse to our school:
we should, before now, bare had 400 children but for the
opposition.
Are there as many children uneducated in your dietrict,
ns would fill the school if they wtre allowed to attend?...
There are.

Lime, 4 dii Mail, 1619.
HENRI' BROUGHAM, E•q. in the Chair.
Mr. William Andrews, jaw. milled fa sad eirstadami.
You are toms ckik of heading?—Yrs.
How Ion! hams you bekt tint office?-1 beliefs three years
lagt Michaelmas.
Did you sneered your tallier ?—fires, 1 did.
11;ii you acted with him when he was town clerk ?-1 had

asi.ialeil Lim ; au.l Libras in his °Mee, bad ao that t.ffice.
What are the principal tharitaWe vadowowntr fur educa-
tion in Reading ?—llerre school. ur gramonar-sehool.
fouotted by Henry VII. for educating the bJya of the lobs-
Intaists of the said heruagh and edam of Reading, in
literature.
iittst `others?-1 to nut know what the words " apa
others'? 'than.
,The Committee 110111% what other charities •le there in
rrt ?—Tlie next is 'Mal of Mr. Richer/1 Aldworth.
Fate what that Inquest is?—Tire ruts sod proles of ft
are apptied, issuers other thinks, ttir a schoolmaster, to
clothe, et:ante. and maintain testily pooriMys le the tkee
lekri.lies.itt Reading; a•Slise rust school; it is also to teach
thirty pour hays es day scholars;
.sad these is also atiodier
object of the charity, if kick is, that two humor sls.ters years
of age, are lo he put wit as appriratiees.
Rive you the will?—Yes,, Ws is • copy of the will sari
codicils. The will is dated the /let if December, teie, the
fiat codicil is dated thelbth February, 1047, the second co-
dicil is dated the 11th of March, ISM, which is a mincepa.
tire codicil..
Who are,tike trustees under the will !Lille Mayor, Alder-
men, and Burgesses of the borough of Readier[. 1 believe.
What does the gift consist of?—The gift 1 believe caw-
si.ted 11,01/0/. in to perchers leads, together with
real property.
What is the yearly value atlas estates mew tiow con-
sists of 'a faros and lauds at Shawfielii, let at 41101. at
klirhaelsnas, 1541 1, prey' to which the rest was wily
11101. per annum.
When was the arm of 4,0001. laid out in the purchase of
lands ?—.l find entries in the books is 1867, este 1,000.
being laid out for the purchase of land ; sad le 1680 a like
(MID'? he to 1,9001.
Where are the estates?—They eomsist of a farm sad heeds
at Shawlleld, in the county of Southampton to a Mr.
Witham Union ; 1 believe it is *oriole purchase.
Is it. staled in the arras in the books, what wee par-
chased?—No, it is not; I believe the farms consist of lauds
that he let to that true person who 1 have sawed.
Is there any other property belonging to this tried ?-4
see in the receiver's books two entries; the rise " William
Prater, 21." and the other, Joke Warren' Its."
Is that for rest t—Tuey are Prot down as rent.
Art there any other feuds under Mr. Aldworth's
Nut to my knowledge.
How long was the last lease, which determined ha 1811 ?
—I cannot state that to the Committee.
%Vas it the practice to hi upon fine before 1811?-1 am
not aware thal it was. To the best of my recollection It
was lowly a tl years preview lease.
Who was the lesser, do you recollect; or do the hooks
she* you ?—The books will sbew me [looking at the books
Joint Hats/nod is mentioned as routing and paying 1081.;
Chest is fur Lance Levy.
What is the date of the lease ?—lt is nut stated here.

Tbat is i kale that expired is 1811 ?—Yea; and I should
rather suppose that he was •ssiguee of the kart.
Who had the other lands at that tittle ?--It is put down,
" Ditto, Marshall, 881"
The same truant ?—Yes; but there were two tenses vested
by asi.iignment iii the same person.
Who was the original latisee ?—There is the name of
William Tubb, in 17116.
Does any other name appear before William Tubb ?—Not
from the books that 1 have new.

Dues any trace of s fine appear?—No trace sofa line op-
pears in these hooks that 1 have brought hire.
Have you a list or the Corporation in the yeat. 1195?-1
have it, but toot ►ere.
Du you know, or have you ever heard, that those leasers
were members of the Corporation ?—I bare reason to belieVe
nut.

Have yens reams to &Hew, that they were connected in
any way a ith she members of the Corpuration?-1 have uo
remain to belie►e it. .

Theis huw do you aceonat for 4,0001. laid out • hundred
and My years before, only fetching ON. rent!-1 expect
that they prodileed as much as lauds iu the seighbohiliooth
wham let at a fair rest.
De you assmlder it to be • commute case, le that
liourimsod of Hampshire, that laud has sot rise• ill valale
arsterially for 150 years past I—Voduaboilly it has.

Have you any doubt. that it has quadrupled upon an ave-
rage i■ 159 years ?-1 should think nut; but 1 am not a far-
asa►. and mown tell. . _ _

How may acres of laud are there iu those two farassl—••
1 have au documents 10 shew this.

Hat the Csepelalb:on in its other or private rapacity, and
not as trustees fur the charily, any laud iu its possession !...6
They have land aged houses.
In w►at county?—ln
[lave they received no increase of rent for the last 150
years should suppose they had.
Ilave you any doubt of it ?—1 should suppose they bed;
1 have no doubt they have.
Have you any means of staling to the Committee, what
rice there has been in the rent of their other lauds, during
the last century and ►alt?—l have no means.

The Cumin'Hee nee, that the tent-roll of 1798 is here
stated at 2431. 13a. 8.1.; can yon tell the Committee what
this rent-toll was in former times?-1 cannot.

{that is it now, deducting the charities!-1 should beg
leave to decline answering that, as 1 as not acqiiliated
wide it.
What use the total rent of lbe lands In the management of
the Corporation I. the year 1796 sad 1797!—1t appears
that that part of the lands and tenements, including in the
honk what are rolled " Hall Revenues," let to 1796 sad
1707 fur 1,3111/. 66.3 d. . . _

What dicittse sank mute amount to In 1813 and 1814 ?
To 1,54181 38.11 d.; this includes the private ratlines of the
Corporation, ■s well as 'militias. _ _

•
Him yeti any means of informing Ike Committee *hat
the rent-roll was !Awe 1796 aad 1797?-1 have not at
this time.

what does this receipt mean is the Corporatiod book,
der Ilse head " A further Aerostat of Mr. dkleurth's Gift,"
by which it appears. that fmm 1701. to 1801. s-year were re-
ceived epos that charity iu the years 1671 se 1677 ?-1
really am at • loss hi sneer, that question; I shoold sup-
pose that Mr.Thurnas Harrisom ire, a genheman is the Cor-
poration; sod that he received that year 1371.138.3 d.; but
there can be uo doubt it is applicable to the triremes of the
charity.
Du you hoe where ie thir book condoning that bock
whit h you have brought ?-1 really canoet state that to the
Committee; of course it is with the Curpoietioo, but vibe.
thee. it be with their other slocreseets and papers, I do not
brow.

is the proper officer with the Corporation for the
coilody of those books ?—Tbe Town Cloth; all the hooks
are i■ their lowa hall, in closets and chests, of which the
Mayor keeps out key sod the Town Clerk another key; and
therefore it is In the custody of the Corporition thenseelres,
by their Mayor sad 'lows. Clerk haring' the key.
Who is the priseut lessee of Aldwortb's leads?—air.
Lawton.

Is it by tense or assignment?—There is as agreelMellit to
grant a Irmo.; there is aft igottable lease.
'f'u him ?—Yrs, to 161111
Dial he pay a fse in 1,11 for this lease?—/ believe not; I
should think out; 1 should Not like to mate to the Coon-
adore, that at the rent of SOO!. s-year It is comities:ill as
°strict ; 1 should also stale, that I believe the agretient
which I did nut prepare, and have cat seen sioce the time it
was dour, or otter saw it, wit I rather think that after se-
veral years, the rent was to increase to 500 t. but I believe
Ire has paid wily 4001. and probably there would be a diepa-
admit to relieve him still more.
is he connected al all with the Corporation ?--11Vo.
Have the Corporatiou any role of cut letting their lands
to themselves, or any persons connected with them?—They
gruerally do ; there is a strong opposition to their let-
ting Hone to persons of that description; Pot I shoold say,
that geueralty charitable estates have been put up en the
highest bold. r, to he let by tender, which lass been foetid
tlisstivatitagrima in general, by inducing Needy persons to
bid beyond what they might. They have been generally let
by tender.
How lung lots that been practiced?—For some years past.
I manna state the time; but so Ling as I bare beret ems-
„dm with the Corporation, I have always olmervied that
disposition. if I were to lock through that book, I believe

ploniel oil fioi.. she name of any one fori:o.itlion,n)pn; I
believe dolt idelfli ICI the 111 lois:Ill Igi Ilw C•rpstra-
ClOlll ilwasisch•cm; I ana emu 'NW( of a ainzle rh itah:e le
bess.g.irr.t.ii is II Witliliirf ul the Col pow 1111 l .

Thee hue do you securest fur the rt ut of .41.1wortls'a lands
nut having rwee between she pars Urns and 161 P-1 really
ant at a luau lu atcuent for it ; 1 vlionld suppose that there
had been either a lung tease previously, Ue that a line had
been takes.
Toro to Arelthirlsop Lard' gift, 1111,1 OAP what was the
nature of that gift I—ll appear. to 1w 4 •Iced-poll eur.•lkd
la Charmer% or s deed of gift, duted the 26th of Marsh, in
the 16th of Charles, in the year 1640.
What did he give by that deed ?--He gave lauds at Bray,
is the county or Berk., in the Sammie of Stroud, and others,
mid l bcbeve reibibt else.
(Pb b. atafinueil.)