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HOUSE 01' LORDS.
MONDAY, FlNNt'Attlf 19.
The Earl of ROSSLY N presented a petition from Dysart,
praying the restoration of the Queen's name to the Liturgy.
Lord FOLEY presented a Petition front the inhabitants of
Kidderminster. praying the restoration of the Queen to her rights.
.aid on the table.
Noel.Es.—Earl GREY rose, in pursuance of his notice, to
move for such further intinniation respecting Naples as might
enable him to form a correct judgment of the conduct of his
Majesty's government. From the time the changes in that
kingdom excittal a hostile feeliug on the part of a dangerous
confederacy, the danger to liberty and independence became
greater. With that feeling, on the first day of the Session, he
directed the attention of the House to the engagements of his
Majesty's government. To the questions lie put to the noble
:era the answer was satisfactory. The noble earl disclaimed the
Tight of other governments to interfere in the domestic affairs of
foreign states, and he laid before the House a paper which he
said would explain the conduct of government. In consequence
of feeling that paper did not affbril sufficient information, he
fear
in the resent instance to address Lis Majesty, praying
for further and more satistiwtory communication-. In making
that motion he conld not avoid expressing his disapprobation of
that monstrous principle held out in the circular of the allies; it
held nut that no matter how necessary changes might be for the
benefit of any people, still on these allies devolved the right to
pronounce sin a constitution to which even the Monarch of the
country had .--sentcal, and to enforce it' necessary that right by
fitter of arms. 'I hat was the principle set up in the circular of
the allies with respect to Naples, but if their lordships attended
to the affairs of Spain and Portugal, they would hod that the
same principle had been before sanctioned by the allied powers
with reference to both hear states. A British aqadom was placed
in the bay of Naples, what was that squadron placed there for
In addition to that squadron was Dot a British frigate made the
means by which the aged King of Naples was conveyed to the
tribunal sovereigns, thereby making the most degrading huini-
lisclon any King could submit to? The revolution of Naples
had been brought about with the greatest order The King
remained at the feud of his people • the establishments were
related], and few excesses committed. It was effected by the
general a ill ; it was stated also that this was not only the work
of a sect, but the effect of a military insubordination. The
noble earl here observed, if states will keep standing armies,
what have they. tr expect ? Soldiers will often become citizens,
and take part In upporting gem, and wholesome laws for the
regulation of society; the revolution of Naples proves that sil-
diers arc men interested in the liberties of mankind. What
would have been the case of England if the army of the tyrant
James had attached themselves to him ? The noble earl then
adverted to the free government eejoyed by the Neapolitans
under Murat. The hest act of the present sovereign also pro-
mised them a free constitution; the people expected it, end
when they were toi the point of possessing it, they were told by
powe:ful confederacy that no rights were to be possessed that
.were not established upon their monarchial principles; he wished
for furthet explanation from the Noble earl upon the points to
which he alluded ? M uch disgrace attached to the country front
the appearance of narrow temporising policy ; it became his
Majesty's ministers to be most explicit in the delivery of their
views and sentiments upon conduct which he abhorred front the
bottom of his heart? The noble earl concluded by moving for
copies of all communications between his al ajesty's government
and foreign courts on the subject of the revolution in Naples.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL id, " I can assure the Noble
Lard, that though I feel it my duty to oppose the inution' I
receive with pleasure the opportunity which hat been given his
Majesty's ministers to ex lain their conduct. If you ate
satisfied with the conduct ofhis Majesty's ministers with respect
to Naples, you ought to oppose this motion. The noble earl
has stated what pastel on this subject die first day of the session,
and the whole of his observations go to spew Lust whether the
paper laid on the table, dated the loth January, was right or
wrong, the sentiments of his Majesty's Guyer nment ought to have
been explained at an earlier period. The declaration of the allies
was not known to be an authentic project before the month sif
Dewniber. The paper transmitted to Baron Bernstead, to which
he alludes, was not oldcially known to his Majesty's government."
The language held by ministers in die circular had been used
in almost every communication in which the question of revolution
was discussed. It had beta used with respect to the tevolufion of
France, the revolution of Spain, and every case of revolution in
which his Majesty's ministera had been occupied. The nobla
lord alluded to the holy alliance. That was a treaty to which this
country was no party. There was no mystery with respect to treaties
in which this country was engaged: They were all before
Parliament. With respect to the sentiment of his Majesty's
Government on the affairs of Naples, they objected to the declaa
ration and views of the allies, because those powers attempted to
do that which it was impossible to do. The question was, what
was the right of a country to make war ? The only right was
its own security. That was jars hello, applied to Belligerents.—
The only possible ground on whim a country could be justified
in making war, was self defence and security. That could not
be founded on the bad example of another country. War must be
founded on sonic more intelligible object, for if that principle was
admitted, it would be saying the vicious part of the world have
an inducement to destroy the good, and discourage virtue itself.
The noble lord did not object to his Majesty's government for
openly disklaiining the proceedings of the allied powers, but for
expressing disapplobation of the Neapolitan revolution. The
noble earl, in a lung speech defended die conduct of his Ma-
jesty's government, and contended ther they had taken those
fair and necessary steps which the case required.
Lord HOLLAND supported the motion.
Lord ELLEN BOROUGH expressed hid approbation of the
conduct of ministers.
Lord CALTHOR PE spoke in favour of the motion.
Earl GREY made his reply, and declined taking the sense of
the house on the question...—The motion was then negatived.
Lord LIVERPOOL. postponed the second reading of the
Queen's annuity bill until to morow.
The house adjourned at half past eleven.
TUESDAY, JAN. 20.
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The Earl of M ihneshury 1.001; iii. 114thc and his seat.
Tuts QUEEN'S ANNIE/11V ro, Lail tot LI V Ert-
POOL tine ILO 1110VC the I.l'lololk :1111111, Of 111 C
low:thee bill. The noble c.ul 'mord iii a fete %turas that
56,0,kg. oat settled 011 lilt Putman s of Wale. on her mar-
riage 4$ dower. l 4 IliCh bum the was rioter d to receive no
case else turrived hit Nlnjetly. That sum, eon-
titterrd a proper allowance for the Q 111.1•11, 111 e 10111111On'
bad agreed to tote, and the bill came for the sanction of the
111 rouse of tor&. lie cunt lotted by muting that the bill lit
feud a second lime.
Earl DA Its LEI said he did loot object to the vote of
the Blouse io Commons. Ile oat romoly to admit there was
nu grouted fit the, censure it ith respect to that vote, ut the
tame time lie could not abstain from offering 11 few observii-
thins upon the tituatien het Nlajetty was no..
played. It seas Oceotiao some lime i•iiire to propose a
a motion tot
_al. add. ass to Ir1•1‘111iC14), praying the rt,lorti-
t of the Quee.i, more to the liturgy. in the pren nt
Iv hopes of Pm liament, he AV /11. 11111.11,C1i to relinquish that
11111'11111111. lie knew nut *lathe' Nit opinion, winch had
brim Gnturd, was right or w tong, but it was supposed by
c.aoly, Lett toe ttlea.rui is of go‘crtiniceit,euriectUt 111CigfCCI,

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would he supported. If that opinion was established is the
alNincitive, he should for cart despair of biinging forts:oil
nay proposition' with success. The noble earl then said,
that the crown, by restolin7 the name of her ftlajesty to the
liturgy, would
Hilt (0111 V promote its high honour and cha
racier, hut do that which the county ttould cohsial r au act
of jastice. Any perms' tt hit recomnivn.led the restoration
id the Qin en's rights would prove himself the fi tend of the
monarchy, and that estahlist l rut of which the King was the
head. It would he admitted oc the ns :jou ity of legal opi-
nions that it was illegal to omit her 'Majesty's name; but
taking it for granted that it was legal, w here wits the justice
omit:shin ? There was another part of the subject he
never could pass without notice. Every member of the
churelt establishment who worshiped his maker, went with
:pi impression that party feeling ought to he forgotten, yet lie
was every day reminded of patty thlieretice by the manner
in which the prayers of the church were altered. This
was nit evil worthy consideration. If lie was not misin-
formed, some of the rest rend clergy had been under the tw-
ee ssity of addressing their congregation on this subject,
because they foiled that a considerable secession had taken
place. The noble earl concluded, by observing, that a
of public duty impelled lion in disclose his opinions.
The LOR CII C It was of opinion it tau Itw ful
to omit her Nlajesty's ntaie, :led, if so, tne (pies 1.111 of Ilex-
pediency would have nosheet.— It was his of to say
this, herr use many noble lords, perhaps, know nig his expe-
rience, would pay some deference to rile opinion lie bast
formed.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY said, " !.er
jrsty is lira en for generally in the litany and collects used
for Coo It al F% sly. Ia those prayers, I am ready at
admit that the distinet• her Majesty asks is not found.—
To lie played for was no distinction at all; for who among
us whatever be leis rank or condition in life, that dues not
participate in the prayers of the established church I and
Gad rot hid ails individual. however poor in character,
should be excluded. Hrr Nlajesty is not excluded. Her
',Majesty seeks not prayer, lint distins ion in prayer."
Lord ELLEN BOROMIII emeideled the provisom fur
her Majesty too large. lie could not see how the (Joesiii
was intitled to anticipate the event tt Welt was to give her a
settlement of 50,0001. a year. After her letter to the
and her answers to odilre,, he could not say the aliost mire
Lr her Maju.ty ,Aoul.l be eutplo)t d to promote the honour
and diguit t of the mourn.
The EMI llf LIMERICK supported the application to
Parli: •tit made in behalf or au illustrious member of
the royal family, and did not emiciir in the view taken by
the noble lord. Ile approved of the grant in the bill.
The Earl of BLESSINGTON did not agree with the
noble lord, alio said the income of the Queen WAS WO
peat. He considered it too small After the defeat of
miiii•ters on the bill of pains and penalties, they should
have offered her Majesty a palace and outfit. His opininn
also was, not withstanding what he had heard front the
noble lord on the woolsack, that her Majesty had a tight
to !nave her name m the liturgy; lie also believed that the
defoliation in the chinch WAS 4 serious
tircwuustanca—
lit the cletreli (if Seolland the Queen was allowed to be
prayed for—itt the North of Ireland, among the preshy-
tel jail., the Queen was prayed for. What was to be the
result of this conflict of opinions? gave his vote in
favour of the amount of the giant.
Lord CALTHORPE said the amount of the grant was
no, too h. His Majesty's • 'stets had acted wisely
in not reducing her allow•nee below (hit 51114.

The Alarquisof L.VNSDOSV NE rose to offer a few
words, and to beg that the unfortunate topic of proceed-
ings against her Majesty the Queen, in that House, might
not be introduced. Coneeiving that it would answer no
beneficial Object to renew that subject, Ine shoul.f obstdin
from argument upon it. lie ....butibi also abstain flow
Riving opinion how far oblivion would he east on the tut-
fortunate question of the liturgy. With respect to the
question before the House, disapproving of her Majesty's
letter to the King, and her answers on several occasions,
he did still think, in the state iu which her Majesty ha,'
been placed, it was the Might of cruelty to Make her
answerable for errors occasioned by a prosecution so
unconstitutionally carried on against her. If she had
been led to belies e an unjust proceeding had been adopt-
ed, it was cruel and unfair to reproach her with errors
into which site had been this en by anomalous proceed-
ings. He did nut object to the grant, and he would go
the length of sasing, it would have been wise to have
accepted it. The bill wad then read a third time and
committed for to-mot row.—Adjoui ;led.