The National Register.
London, England, 1817-03-24 00:00:00

ORDNANCE ESTIMATES.

Mr. WARD stated, that the Extraordinaries of the Ordnance
amounted to 520,0001. and the Ordinaries to 229,0001. ; which
amounted together to 150,0001. less than list year. Conside-
rable reductions had taken ;dace in the Ordnance, such as a
whole battalion of artillery, and half a battalion of engineers.
There had also been a reduction in the corps of sappers and
miners. He then moved fur a sum of 258,0001. for the office
of Ordnance fur the year.
After some conversation respecting the propriety of pre.
venting map sellers from cops ing the large map which the
Office of Ordnance was about to publish, the Resolution was
agreed •o.
Mr. %VARY) then moved, 25,0001. for the service of the Ord-
'name, 25,05t1. and 24,0001. for the Land Serviee of the Ord-
nance, 10.;,000. bier superannuated and retired officers and
men of the Ordnance, 350311. for a like purpose, 15,0001.
for a like purpose to superannuated servants of the Awe,
72,0001. for the expect. of the Office of Ordnance in Ireland,
27,0001. fur pay of Irish retired officers and widows, and
1,7401. for a like purpose.
The Resolutions were agreed to, and the Report ordered
to he received to-morrow.
Lord A. HAMILTON presented a petition from the county
of Lanark, against the tax on dwelling houses and cottages in
Scotland (not paying a rent of 51. a year) of 4s. 611.
Mr. VANSITTART could not consent to take off a tax of
4s. 6d. from Scotland, while England was to continue paying
a tax of Us. Some alteration might be made in the mode of
collecting this tax.
The petition was brought up, and ordered to lie on the
table.
The Mutiny Bill was read a third time and passed.
All?. BUTT.
Lord COCHRANE presented a petition from R. G. Butt ; in
which he stated that lie was afraid the 10001. fine would be
exacted a second time, because the first had not been paid
far the use of the Crown ; and because the receipt was nut
signed by the person whose name was affixed to it.
Mr. VANSITTART said, he had eimuired ; and found that
the fine had been regularly paid for the use of the Crown.
The petitioner laboured on this and other subjects under a
most unfortunate malady. The petition was ordered to lie on
the table.
Lord CocuatANE gave notice of a motion for to-morrow,
relative to the application of tines paid to Courts of Law.—
Adjourned.

TUESDAY, MARCH 18.
LorI'ERTES. _

The chief business ofTinpo;t7Dlctl.tis day was that relating
to State Lotteries.
Mr. LIiTTLLToN rose to bring forward a motion for the
abolition of Lotteries. The Hon. Gentleman contended, that
this mode of raising money was improvident ; and stated that
the people paid actual y the sum of RIO,OOOI. in order to bring
into the Tieatiry Montt 570,0001. He objected to the present
Lottery, on the grolind of its being a iblaey. Instead of
220,000. in prizes, the real value was only lOir,Onol. lie
also objected, in strong terms, to the practice of sidieriog
Moe-coat-boys to assist in drawing the Lottery, as it fami-
liarized them with gambling. 't he Lord Mayor and Corpo-
ration of London hail objicted to the Lottery, 41111 petitioned
against it. The Hon. Gentleman we'd On to state various
evils resulting from the Lottery, and coneltided by a motion
expressive of its evil tendency, in a 11101-.11 'Mint of view, and
as actually causing a diminution in the revenue.
Mr. V.VisITTART !float(' the ItoOse would weigh most se-
riously bciOre it gave op ally p..rt of the revenue of the
eomitry, at a time so precarious a, the presctit. %L die re-
spect to the system of Lotte• tea iwallt: 111,1aWfitt and
unless ;la games of chance were held to be so, he et/11111 not
• see how l.ottes ies could be so emisideictl. As to the scruples
of the City of London with respect to Lotter its, they had
only seized the city latety; thr it was not many yells ago
that the city got an Act of Pat Hammitt fur a Lottery of it,
ow n. of which the principal prize was a house valued at
29,0301, and he hail hero told, that home had been sold with
aitlietilty for 70001.
sir... Iton Im.y spoke against Lotteries, and said, if the
Hight lion. Gentleman could go into the workhouses, prisons,
and mad-houses, to see the persons now distressed and ago-
nized by the proved consequences of the Lottery, he did not
petitiv that he could • till ltersevme in them.
Mr. J. WARD thought we mild nut at present spare 5 or
Gio,n itol. a year, witlbrit occasioning more evils than those
Watch assoc Irons the Luttrrics. At the same tiNic, the Lot-

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tery system was a shameful system, liable to destroy all in-
dustry, forethought, and morality.
M.. WlLBErtortcE thought it very strange, that the last
speaker should have admitted that Lotteries destroyed religi-
ons and moral feelings ; and yet that they ►hould be kept up
to raise 590,6001. a year for the service of the State. ThPre
was no other species of vice or immorality which might not
be defended 00 a similar principle.
cAsTLEitescii should have felt great satisfaction, if
they could have given up this Tax wi•h justice to the laigt r
interests of the State. The moderate me of Lotteries, like
that of intoxicating spirits, would be productive of no esti;
it was only the inordinate use of them that was pernicious.
Lord A. l'Asitt.ToN, Mr. H. Mtitu.stru, and Mr. THOM.
son, spoke in very strong term• against Lotteries.
Mr. L%TTLETON replied. He was glad to fiud that the
principle of Lotteries had been given up, even by those who
advocate(' that measure for they hail admitted, that if money
could be raised in another manner, the Lottery would be
given up.
The House then divided—For the original motion 26
Against it 7g—Majority 46.