The Sun.
London, England, 1855-05-19 00:00:00

THE WOOLWICH ACADEMY.

Mr. NAPIER called attention to the circumstances con-
nected with the recent nominations to the practical class
at Woolwich, and made particular allusion to the treat-
ment experienced in this matter by seven students of
Trinity College, Dublin, who, having reason to suppose
that they should obtain appointments in the Woolwich
Academy in the event of their passing an examination in
the science of military engineering in the Dublin Univer-
sity, did pass the examination in a very creditable manner,
and yet were refused appointments. The pro7oet of the
university had corresponded with the Board of Ordnance,
but no redress wa. to be had.

Lord PALMERSTON interposed with his answer to the
question put by the hon. member for Stafford. There were
a certain numbe• of prisoners, Poles and Russians, taken
in the Baltic. The Poles showed a great desire to join a
Polish corps, now forming, in the Turkish service, under
the command of a Pole, Colonel Czartarowski. They were
sent out at the expense of the British Government, :mil
furnished with arms. They were enrolled in the Turkish
service, in a corps called by a name which sigoitied that
they were not a part of the regular. army, and their banner
was the cross and the crescentcombined. With i hese Poles
a certain number of persons ee the Polish emigration went
out desirous of the same service. Every man of these
went of his own accord, and it rested with the Turkish Go-
vernment to determine where they should be employed.
Mr. MONSELL, in answer to the right hon. gentleman
the member for the University of Dublin, said that the
appointments in question were not in the hands of the
board, ~ut in those of the Lieutenant-General of the Ord-
nance. There were two points to be considered, which the
hon. and learned gentletuau ha l mixed up--first, whether
the principle of nomination was a good one ; eext, whether
the existing principle had or had not been fairly carried
out. He did not wish to express any opinion on the first
point. With respect to the second, he believeil that it had
been fairiy acted upon at Wo:,lwicli, where, though every
care was taken that the young men should be tit for the
service, ne.e-it was not the ground of nomination. He ex-
pressed no opinion-as to wheher the principle of nomina-
tion was a goal or b. el one, but he did not think that it
lid been uefairly aeeliedin the present instance.

Mr. WHITE-;IDE said that it seemed to be the custom
now to fall back on the system for any abuses that might
arise.

Mr. H. VERNON bore testimony to the zeal which the
Clerk of the Or inance had manifested in his endeavours
to intro:ince reforms into tlie department of which Le was
at the head. _

Mr. V. SCULLY said it was a curious thing that when
hon. gentlemen were out of office everything appeared to
them to ha done by I.vour and nothing by merit.
After a few words from Colonel DUNNE,
The motion for the adjournment of the house until Mon-
day was agreed to.
EDUCATION (SCOTLAND) BILL.
. .

The adjourned debate upon the question that the house
should go into committee upon this bill was resumed by
The Earl of DALKEITII, who supported the resolution,
and objected to the Lord Advocate's bill that it did not
make sufficient provision for the religious instruction of
the young.
Mr. COWAN opposed the resolution, and dilated at
some length upon.the inefficiency- of clerical superinten-
dence of schools, as shown in the impunity with which
schoolmasters of the lost generation committed all sorts of
immoralities. Ile contrasted this with the vigilant care
with which the inspectors watched over the ability and
aptitude of the teachers, showing the superiority of their
system. He defended the absence of religious tests from
the bill, on the ground that the religious feelings of the
people were sufficient to secure the religious principle,
while the separation of the Church into sects, chiefly,
arising from the tyranny of a majority, rendered it impos-
t Bible to agree upon any test that would meet the views of
all parties.
Sir G. MONTGOMERY opposed the bill on the grounds
that it provided no security for religious teaching, and
would break up a system that worked well.
Mr. MACKIE spoke in favour of the amendment, and
against the bill.
Lord DUNCAN reminded the house that they were
no: discussing the second reading of the bill, but whether
it should be divided—in other words, to pieces. He
read official returns showing the vast number of criminals
utterly ignorant even of reading, and asked whether edu-
cation could be iu a satisfactory state under the existing
system. The object of this bill was not to exclude out to
secure religious teaching, by removieg the obstacle opposed
by sectarian differences, while it left the parochial schools
as much as possible upon their present footing.
Sir A. CAMPBELL said, the question being whether
the present system should be abolished, it should be shown
that the parochial schools were on a faulty system, and
that the new schools would be upon a better system, which
hail not been done.
POLLARD•URQUIIART supported the bill, which
he considered was urgently required by :he present cir-
cumstances of Seotland.
Mr. SMOLLETr opposed the bill, because it contained
no adequate security for the maintenance of the religious
character of the schools, and for religious instruction there.
• He should vote. be said, for the amendment.
Mr. BOWYE:t noticed the operation of the bill upon
Roman Catholics and non-Presby Lei ians by the oiniseion
of the denominational clause. The former, especiady,
could not seperete religieue from seculai education, so
that the bill would be weds-ively Presbyterian.
Mr. SCOTT disputed t:.e statisteieett data upon which
the Lure Advocate had founded his ergueient in f teem'. of
the bill, and called upon Eeglieh mein hers not to aid in
the overthrow of au alicient system, providing a sound
and cheap telucetioo, in favour of a no v-fatigleit and un-
ified one. which would supersede local Control and dry up
the source, of pi ivate euppol t.
Lord EXIIO, after appealing to Mr. Stirline's bill De
an ad miseion that further inaesna.:inlisi,eotrbfyee,:atluocsattlie:hirNievweie required
for the people of Seotland, called the attention of E ,glish
to the
owwfheti' the vista 'vwrosat )11Etsi:::+hgoen the principle .1 inaetil tieol "1
get:iwin ill;
sought to banish the evils of :a deneniinatienel ethic tien
and to diffuse the benefits of a united education. He ael-
ru parochial sell eds, which this bill
witted that this siventege ought net to b purchesed be
the :steendinent he preceeded to
principle of this measure, and
i wet! (1t,004 overthrowing
ib'Kev
tien,:fig;,teth,tieotle
he replied to the arguments urged in its support.
Mr. BLACKBURN thought that as the bill, by the con-
fession of the Lord-A. Ivocate, was to carry out two olbjeet.e,
it would be much more convenient and beneficial to divide
it into two bills. The existing system, uuder which the
schools depended upon the Church, ha l been, ho observed,
most successful, and uo party in Scotland asked for this
measure.
Mr. LAING pointed out the incompatibility of the
amendment with the principle of the bill, which was to
sever the intiinete connexion between the Est .blisheil
Church of Scotland, which had ceased to be the church of
the nation, and the parochial schools .An 'urgent practical
necessity arose for -chools to meet the wants of the country,
and, as it was impossible to adhere to the old system, the
bill very properly excluded a test and the control of the
presytery in the new schools, but, being founded upon a
compromise, it did not apply to the parochial schools under
the old system.
The LORD-ADVOCATE made a few observations iu
reply to objections to the bill and upon the questions raised
by the amendment, dwelling upon the mischievous results
of cutting the bill in two. He deeied that the parochial
schools belonged to the Established Church of Scotland;
they belonged to the nation. His proposition was this—
that Scotland being the only part of the United Kingdom
ripe for a common system of education, it should be built
upon the footing of a common faith.
Mr. Sergeant SHE E insisted that the noble lord at the
head of th Government should pledge the Government to
give a larger educational grant to the Roman Catholics be-
fore he would agree to support the bill.
, Lord PALMERSTON said the bill did not prejudice
the case of the Roman Catholics. But the learre d gentle.
man wished the Government to pledge themselves to do
something more, and to give a larger educational grant.
All he could say was, that was a matter for the commit-
tee of Privy Council. and had nothing to do with the bill.
Lord J. MANNERS appealed to the son. member for
Sheffield to withdrew his motion for the adjournment.
Mr. HADFIELD withdrew his motion accordingly, but
proceeded on voluntary grounds to argue against the bill.
The house then divided—
Ayes 149
Noes 142
Majority in favour of Government
The result of the decision was received with immense
cheering on the opposition benches.
The hohse went intcreommittee pro forma.
The LORD ADVOCATE stated that he would not pro-
ceed further with the bill before the Whitsui. holidays.
The CHAIRMAN amp; dingly reported progress.
The house having resumed, went into committee on the
Militia Bill (No. 2).
On clause 5,
Sir J. TROLLOPE moved, as an addition to the clause,
that "Extra-parochial pieces within burghs should berated
with respect to expenditure under this act in the same
=tuner as such places are rated in repectof county rates."
—Agreed to.
The bill then passed through committee.
The Weights and Measures Bill was read a third time
and passed.
Ou the motion of th• LORD ADVOCATE, the Court
of Session (Scotian i) Bill was read a second time
The Places of Religious Worship Registration Bill went
through committee pro forma.
The Piers and Harbours (Scotland) Bill was read a se-
cond time.
The house adjourned at five minutes past one o'clock.

Mr. CALEDON paired for the Scotch Education Bill with
Sir S. BIGNOLD against.
Mr. DENT paired for the Scotch Education Bill with
L.mi CHELSEA against.
Mr. 0 H IGGINS paired for Sir W. Clay's Bill to abolish
Church-rates with Lord BEOTIVE against.
Mr. ANTROBUS paired for Six W. Clay's Bill with Mr.
GODDARD against.

COAL MARK
Prices of Coal per ton at t
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Hastiug's Hartley lB
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Howard's West Hartley
Netherton lB
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North Percy Hartley _l7
Tanileld Moor l5 9
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Tanfield Moor Lutes 15
Walker Primrose
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Lambton Primrose . 11 0
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Frain wellgate . 19 C
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