The National Register.
London, England, 1823-02-23 00:00:00

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The Karl of SHAFTEnIiUItY presented a liediel•telidon

FLyt. 40.

Both petitions were read and laid en the table.
Mr. l'ayne presented the Report of the Commissioners of the
Thames Navigation.
The Alarquis of LANSDOWNE seeing a noble Earl (Liver •
pool) in his place, observed. that it was his intention to-courrow,
to put a few.cpiestions respecting Fortign Relations, reserving the
ri4iit of making any illOtlutl whicii the &Issuer to his questions
unsbt suggest.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said it would be inconvenient to
MIMIr the noble Marquis's enquiries to-morrow.
The Marquis of LA. SDO W NE hen named Monday, which
was bassi be the intended intenrAatie.i.
The House, on the motion of ate Earl of LIVERPOOL., ad-
journed to Monday.

MOUSE OP COMMONS.
MONDAY, FKB. 17.
Mr. So-a/lett took tho mottos and Lis seat as Meaber for
Peterborough.
Sir G. CLERK gave notice. that on Friday he should, in a
committee of supply, mote the rote for the seamen.
Colonel BAGSELL presented a petition from Tipperary,
praying for a commutation of tythes.
Lie. R. DAVIS pre* used two petitions from Bristol against
the Insolvent Debtor's Act. _

Sir T: LE EH BRIDGES acid, that it would be impossible for
nab Act to exist mach longer.
Mr. BRIGHT also spoke of the Aet in its present form,
particularly ags'ast the asultiptitation of oaths on subjects
where men ought not to be trusted.
Petition read and ordered to be printed.
Other petitions against the fusel% eat Debtors' Act were pre-
sented Gloucester, &o.

Mr. RICE presented a petition from Carmarthen, complain-
ing of agricultural desires*, for the reduction of taxes, Otte.
Mr. HUME said the bon. member bad nut hitherto sup-
ported Iho reduction of taxes ; and it would therefore lee de-
sirable to know *bat comae be intended to pursue 1 Did be
iatend to support the petition ?
Mr. ItlOE thought this rather an extraordinary coarse to
pursue ; be should do as be bad done, give his votes cm the
questions as they arose.
l'elition read and ordered to be printed.
Mr. BYNG obtained leave to bring in ■ bill to amend lbw
Bethnal Green Act.

The /,)RI) MAYOR moved, that Sir Wm: Curtis bay
leave of absence for one mouth, on account of serious lock.-

Mr. P. GRENFELL gave notice, that to-morrow he should
inure for Accounts of the sums paid to the Bank fee the Ma-
nagement of the public debt.
Accounts respecting the Holyhead Harbour Expenses, &c.
were ordered to be submitted to the Howse.

Mr. ABERCROMBY moved (or the return, in Dortbwick's
case at Glasgow.• —Ordered.
The Sheriffs presented the petition of the city of Loodon in
Common Council assembled, praying for Referral.
Mr. Alderman WOOD said, that the petition had been de-
hued oe account of the absence of some of the Ministers All
of them were reelected, and some of them were recently in
the lloune. Without doubt they were now not far olf, and
while it vies ►eading perhaps they would return. The petition
came from a body that had not al a ays bees treated with the
greatest courtesy, though the corporation was of the greatest
importance and merited attention.—The Petition payed for
economy ; and it was notch required, as the inhabitants of
Lodi's' experienced difficulties which equalled those com-
plained of by the Agriculturists. It also called for Reform,
for au extessroe of hue people's aeL-uge; and the elections in
the City of London to the Costumes Council, showed that there
was no real ground for apprelieudin4 danger from the vitiation
of the people's right to vote for their representatives. He
should move that the petition ate read at length; he thought he
should out be perfuming his duty except he pursued such
course.—(Hear, hear!)
The clerk at the table then read the petition ; Mr. Canning,
Mr. Peel, Mr. Lushiegton, Mr. F. Hammon, Mr. Wynn, &c.
were on the treasury bench.
Mr. T. WILSON was favourable to the prayer for economy,
—but as to the subject of reform, be should attend to it when-
ever it was brought forward.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, that to-morrow he 'herald move for
a committee to enquire into the charters and rights, by which
returning ',Dicers returned members to that House. On the
2 nth of April he should bring Durward the question of Parlia-
ment . 'form. He was glad to see the growing interests
that the enlightened classes took in reform, In a few days the
Yorkshire petition was signed by near 20,000 persons. These
were some of the lively sparks twitted by the " dying embers
of reformi”—(Cheers.)
The petition was ordered to he printed.
FOREIGN ENLISTMENT.—Lord ALEHORP gave notice,
that on Thursday m151140l he sh. old move the repeal of the
Foreign Enlistment Act.—(Hear, hear! )
beeri.V.—Mr. F BOBINSON moved that the House go
Mid a committee of supply.
Mr. CREEVY could met but first obs,rve on the matter of
course manner in which applications of supple was merle.—
W lay were sinecures to be continued for privileged orders ?
(Heo: ! )--They oeuld not shut their ears against what was
said out of doors ; that a revolesion in property was going on,
and that a scramble was to be apprehended. They heard of an
allies that in former time* was not dreamt of ; there was, for-
sooth, " the Mama'sr of the House of Commons." In Lord
Bacon's time, the idea of a manager was ridiculed as chime
vital. But now the cards in that were packed ; they had 89
court cards, that cost the country 180,0001. annually. He
concluded with moving as an'ameadmemt, that it he au instruc-
tion to the committee to take into consideration the grievances
of the people.
Mt. CANNING said, that if any distinct grievances were
alleged, the House would considor them ; but the motion lie
could not understand; however, he could not but condemn the
allusions that bad been made to the executive, after the great
sacrifices made made by Lis Majesty to assist the public ser-
vices,— (Hear. bear!)
Mr. W. LAMB said, no comparison could be made between
the present period and the little liberty they enjoyed in Elisa-
beth s and other reigns.

Mr. HUMS declined tbat the former reigns, wben the
country we, in difficulty, particularly Queen Atone, the Crown
lends bad been offered to aid the public' sertice. A treaty bad
been made with the crown on the aceession of Geo. 111. re-
specting the crown eeeee ues, but it bad been evaded. To
show tire teatime of ministers, or the corruption of indit.-

deals who were some bow or soother connected wills that
House, be would only advert to the little attention paid to the
almost ensoinmellopoice respecting Henri General, scarcely
any sarinflllivioNwen effected, notwithstandtag one year bad
asipbed.—diAnt etemelkne gal +red.
be House went into the committee of 'apply.
'fbe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the

grams of 24,000,00 W. Lacbequer Bills ; 12,000,0001. to woks
goo' bills of last year; told 14.1,0001. for public works,
churches, &c.—Agreed tu.. Report oo Wednesday.

'I be !louse adjoiirswil.
TUL&DAY, FEB. 18.

Mr. lloskinion and Mr. Arnuthuo. took the oaths and their
seas.

am of York, against the lloacilveot Debtors' Act ; sod si.uits;
pelitioas weie p ted Irom Sheptoo-Mallett,
Sir T. IikITH BRIDGE said, that though be should semen.
he bad nu iaitestioo to bring io, a bill to support the losoltest
Debtur' Act.

Petitions, praying, an alteration of the Muriage Act were
presented from Walton, Bedford, &e.
Mr. BKEIFINGTON moved for copies of various cot res.
poodence between the Cystic of Dublin end the Colonels of
Irish Militia, in 1822 ; Remonstrances, &m.
Mr. Aldensaa WOOD eisitoi.ed whether any part of the
softy voted last session, for buildings sew Insulunt Debtors'
Cost., bad been issued. If not, be hoped it would out be

Mr. HERRIES said, that a partion had been issued ; that
a house had been psi: chased : twat pleas bad been submitted :
sad that when any thing was decided epee, the result should
be stated. He then preheated the return of barley, wheat, &es
previoesly ordered.
Lord itIeTHORP MIN to make his motion fur the more
er oral recovery of small debts. He was glad to bear that
there wee no opposition to his motion. The present expellees
af recovering small debts ware enormous, and operated to
produce considerable *lona. He bad canoes propositioos to
make, bat lie thought the better sourer to purses would be,
to re.er the matter to a secret committee, sod he therefore
moved for a select committee.

Mr. WARM:: with pleasure 'weeded the mention.
Mr LITTLETON approved of the emotion ; the preseot
mods of recoveting small debts was most oppressive.
feared that there wood be coneiderable obj.:ettons on the part
of the magistrates to take on themselves a. summary jorirdie-
lion is the ease of smell debts, as was the case in Scotland.
Motion agreed to ; owninit.ee appointed.
CATHOLIC Quearios.—Sir J. NEWPORT said, the epees-
lips respecting the Cate of Ireland was so imperfectly ender-
, atoo3, that tlie amplest opportunity for discussion ought to be
Afforded ; sod be Kterefoee hoped that the right hon. gentlernam
(Mr. Plunkett) would postpone the motion till after the recess.
Mr. CANNING joined his wish to that just expressed, to
postpone the motion , it had no chance oi. being so fairly beard
as might be desired ; but would be mixed up with temporary,
be trusted, transitory occurreoces.—(Hear. bear.)—He hoped
his right hun. tread would consent to postpone the motion.
Mr. PLUNK Err said he ►hould not shrink from giving to
the House sod the country the amplest inforwation respecting
some recent affairs.—(Hear.)—As to the question, he should
acquiesce io the request made; he was eatialiml, that under
the existing ■nfayattate circumstances, it could not be fairly
discussed. He postponed it till the 17th of April.
Sir E. KNNICHUULL moved that the call of the House
be postponed 141 April 17.—Agreed to.
Lord J. RUsSELL postponed his motion respecting corpo-
rate powers to return members till Thursday.
Mr. GOULBURN moved for leave to bring in a bill to re-
dace the Irish Staff.
Mr. HUME wished to knew die autonut of the contemplated
saving.
Mr. GOULBURN said swab saving would be to the amount
of 30,6001.
Mr. SEEFFINGTON 'Walled the deoentents illustrative of
the hied Militia, ate. so be 'laid before the House previously
to t►e second reading of the bill.
Mr. BAGWELL areas of the berme!, of faith that would,
thus be inti:cted oa the proposed victims of the contemplated
bill, and it would be is the teeth of an Act of 1817. Had titey
been dismissed at the conclusion of the war, they would bat♦
been entitled to half-pay ; but now, is consequence of subse-
quent regulations, they would not have such resources. Dis-
mission' had takes place, and they were told they would be
employed in the polies ; but when they app. red at the Castle
hundreds of them were rejected as not wanted. The measure
would he a most unjust one.
Mr. PEEL thought these remarks might hate been poet-
poned, especially as papers were to be subsuittel to the Haase.
If there were bad faith in the bill, there had bees like breach
of faith towards the English militia ; sod the access/600 in-
volved a charge against 31 colonels is Ireland, who had coo-
tented to the reductions—the hon. member and biz of bis col-
leagues only having protested against the reductions. There
was no ground for the charge of bed faith. And as to the
proceedings in 1817, it was expressly stated that at present"
reductions were not contemplated, implying that they 'night
take place.
Lord PALMERSTON said, that similar reductions in the
English militia had taken place in 1818.—Motion agreed to.
Mr. P. GREN FELL brought forward his promised motion
respecting what was called the Management of the Public
Debt. This average deposits were for many years about 13
millions, and the advantage to the Mask was between bye and
six bemired thousand pounds ; and all that they did for it was
iu the nature of an ordinary banking trausaction--there was
nuentra trouble that would not have been sn.ply repaid by
10,0004 a year. He concluded with moving foe returns of
the balances in the hands of the Be ik, &o.
Mr. F. ROBINSON said, wbt■ the papers were produced.
he should be prepared to meet any proposition that might be
made ; and that he should not pledge house It to any particular

On the presenting of the Supply Report,
Mr. 111.31 R tusked whether there was any men in con-
templation to guard the public against the lames sustained by
the Savings Ranks ; those Winks having 4i per cent while the
Government had only 1 per cent. 7 bus there was ■ treat Isms
to the pebble.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, HIM
he really Ind not bad time to attend to such subject—it WI..
doulstidly merited attention--Report agreed to.
I House ordered to go Into a Committee of Ways and Mews
to-morrow.

The remaining business baring been diapesed of the Hew*
adjourned.

WEDNESDAY. 11.8. 19.
Mr. BROGDEN brought to the Plymouth Cu Light Bill.--
Reed a 1441 time.
Lord DEERHURST prtouted a petition from Worcester
gains( the Insolvent Debtors' Act.