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HOUSE OF LORDS.
MONDAY. MARCH 4.
The County Assizes Bill was read a third time and passed.--
Adjourned.
TET:STAT. artnot 5.
The LORD CHANCELLOR heard appeals.
Mr. llrogdcn, and other Members from the Commons.
brought up the Irish arms and gunpowder importation bill,
which was read the lirst time.
The Irish population act amendment bill, and the Irish
seizure of arms indemnity bill, were read a second time.
Several public papers were presented, sad the (louse ad-
journed.
WEDNESDkY, MARCH 6.
The Transfer of Aids Bill, the Exchequer Bills Bill, the To-
bacco Duties' Bill, and the Arms Importation Bill, were read
the second time.
The Irish Population Bill, and the Seizure of Arms Indem-
. rtity Bill, went through Committees.—The House adjourned.
sritunsnay, atattcm 7.
The Irish Population Act Amendment Bill was read the third
"line and passed.
The Transfer in Aids Bill—the Importation of Arms and
Gunpowder into Ireland Bill—the Exchequer Bills Bill, and die
annual Duties' Bill, severally passed through Committees.—
Adjourned.
FRIDAY, MARCH B.
Mr. Woodford from the Treasury, presented an estimate offal
the Tuxes proposod anti repealed since the termination of the late
pr.—Larl on the table.
The transfer of Aids Bill, the Exchequer Bills Bill, and the
annual Duties Bill, were read the third time and passed.
HUNT'S BREAKFAST POWDER.
The Marquis of LANSDOW NE said, he rose to move for
certain returns connected with a subject to which he called the
attention of that House and the public. It had been stated in
the other House of Pailiament, and was the subject of much
public conversation. He alluded to the prosectit;ans instituted
by the Board of Excise against persons selling a preparation of
roasted wheat, under the name of breakfast powder. fliese pro
secutions lie understood had been commenced on pretence of the
substitute for tea and coffee interfering with die sale of collar.
He was not able to say how the sale of the article might atiect
the Revenue, but lie considered it highly illegal to prevent the
sale of any article of food and subsistence, without the same was
prohibited by law. It certainly wits an abuse of the power given
the Commissioners of Excise, when that power was stretched so
RS interfere with any article not prohibited by statute. It'
roasted wheat became an article of food, it might be advantage-
ous to increase the consumption, rather than prevent it ; but the
rabble Marquis considered the matter in a constitutional point of
view. If an officer in the revenue had the right to seize every
article he might consider injurious to the revenue, the effect
would be a transfer of the power of that House to the Board of
Excise. It was an important question for the consideration of
Pailiament, and with the intention of making it a subject of
inquiry, he moved for an account of all instructions given by the
Commissioners of Excise to their Officers respecting the seizure
of imitative coffee, and the prosecutions cominenced for the tale
of the article.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL did not object to the motion, and
the return was ordered.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL rose to move the third reading of
two bills on the table, one entitled a bill to regulate the im-
portation of arms, gunpowder, and ammunition into Ireland ;"
the ether •• a bill for indemnifying such persons as have seised
or detained any arms or gunpowder in Ireland. since a time to
be limited, for the preservation of the public peace." The
noble Earl observed, with respect to the first of these bills, that
it had been the law in Ireland during sonic time, but the act
having expired in August last, it became necessary to make a
liew law, providing for the public service, as if the old act had
not mired. He concluded by moving the third reading of the
bill.
Lord HOLLAND said, when the noble Earl admitted that
the provisions of these hail beer. practical law in Ireland during
some time past, he could not avoid saying, they were measures
for nothing more nor less than disarming the people of that un-
fortunate country. The nature of such laws was repugnant to
the Constitution. and nothing but absolute insurrection could
jastity them. When such means were resorted to, the House
must naturally feel that Government, during 42 years, hail ttie-
elected to place Ireland in a condition to enjoy the Constitution.
to which they were admitted by the Act of Union. inc noble
Lord concluded by observing. he could not allow the bills to pass
without makin4 die alone !MAI k>.
Tie bill was read the third time and passed.
Tire Earl of LIVERPOOL then moved the third reading of
the Solute of Arms Indemnity Bill, which was accordingly
read and passed.
On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR a bill brought
in by his Lordship (as we understood) to regulate the praatice of
'atomics. was read the second tiazie.—.Adjoarned.

HOUSE OF COM MONii•
MONDAY, MAUCH 4.
The 'marital accounts of the West Lidia Dock Company,
and of the Shoreham Harhour, acre pn•seutcd.
Lord OSSULSTON presented F. petiti ~,, from th,• spirit
d..der• of Hero icts•ulioa-Tn red, lora, iii;; I laid the resir IC •
Dons IrEarditig Sent. h nhltke) noi,;oit be taken oil, as fat us
regardr I I h.,t I.l.tee.
l'elot outs, cooniolaining of agricultural distress, mete pre-
sewed from IV urcet tershoie and Devonshire. Oldcred to he
d.
Mr. NIA liEli LEY complained of the difference bet a cen
tinr public accounts, laid Irefore all the nrt•tnbets, and the
noble Margnis's (Loololowlei ty ) deinds ; he knew nut how
mere could lie such sat lance and he therefore mos cd fur
returns explaining the reasons of these dolleorlices in the
cu-tarns and excise ; in the land alid I:I7CeS,
hoped tn,seneruwas onuldbe rordeo ed, and hat they would
br ready before Iris tine, tiled for the 14th inst. lie
moved for •tccuaeli to show 114,W those sari:owes arose,
In-Alone he did nut aWI to be told when he brush hl torn ard
ourrtion, that the stitteinei.to were nut the Goveinment's
Ltd. lo.s.
Aft, r some remarks from Mr. C. Wynn, Mr. Hume, /kr.
e rontioo wo. wnhdrann, on the understanding that Mr.
11.1,11ilog.toon %%mild lay betiote tile Hour: uct•nunl stating
Coe louods Of ,ebs al aettut.t., before the 14111
fhc assixs coininiss ~,,, bolt tam, brought fonts the Lords.
rt hr,t time.
Mr. CANNING presented a petition flit' merchants of
Lr%iirpuol engaged in the forei,ol corn trade, pr.tyurq that
tit House would take their case iiiiu ctaisidi
con referred to a commit' Cu.
Mr. 600C11 (fiiiin the oopppositiou bench) ,aid hr wished
to learn room the right bun. cent. oppoodte—(cheerio; and
IduOlire) whether any Orontes had taken place since Fe iday,
Oil toe subject of the malt ta s.
The CIIANCELLOR of the ExenEQUER replied,
trout he ;impure.] that the repeal should take place (rum
E. h. 41, the day nu which the resolution passed.
r. Ouden, Mi. Libre, &c. eskiwned what was to be done
ft% ..(11111g tree •.m hand.
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that the plans puianeil n foriner instances where InXeß had
been taken tiff at re to be adopted w here the duty had
been paid It was to he retutrad.
Mr. G. BEN N urr said, this was another ins•ance of the
injuri )))) s tendency of the sielit. bass centlentan'a plane t—
ithe:Ay had persons brew induced to take emit to market
water 'disadvantages.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented n petition from Mr. 11.
complaining of the injurious and oppre.e.ive haetedars
hich were daily heaped on Mtn, tee severities being con-
stantly increased, in liehester jail. Ile had also received a
letter from Mr. 11. mentioning, that within these few days
fresh oppressions had been resorted to, thous closed, mid
the family rt loved admission to Mr. Hunt when a surAimil
operation was to he performed. lie should call the atten-
tion of the Iliiuse to this question as auon us the evidence
wits printed.
Mr. 11011110 USE slid there ens no hope except the
Government interposed, and that by reinovieg liiin from b 0
" untenable" n prison us that of Ileliestcr, , but at all events
let the House recollect that there ought lint to be a lolls
deley—that while the petitiou was printing Mr. Hunt was
sufferinz.
Mr. SCARLETT complained of the tuition; enquiry had
proved it not to he a hat had been represented.
Mr. LOCKHART said the law had been improperly
acted upon, and the lion Alderman ought instantly to bring
the subject before the House in a specific form.
Dr. LUSH INGTON depiecnted the conduct of judres in
signing general rules. Ile hoped the magistrates would lay
b. lane the j titlaes a series of hen reaulations. Ao to the jail,
if it had been properly inverted, it was impossible those
atrocities could have taken place that were proved to have
been committed.
Mr. Militiaman II EYG ATE said, sifter what hail berm
proved, the House ought to look at Ilchester jail with
suspicion.
Petition read and ordered no he printed.
Dr. LUSH IN GI-0N pi esented a similar potion from in-
habitants of Ileliester
Sir It. WILSON another petition from Eccles, praying
the Hume to address the King to commute Mr. Hiee's
seutence.—Read. and ordered to be printed.
Sir J. NEWPORT presented a petition, to which he
begged the serious attention of the house, ri lay inipro-
iators of Wates ford, complainiug of the present system
of tythes. They felt assured, and lie agreed in opinion
with them, that the interests of the elergy,av well as Mote
of the country, would be benefitted by a revision of the
tythe system. It gave rise to the grossest abuses. In
Tipperary there had been .)01. demanded fur tythi s by a
uctur, but on Wylie), tile Dian said that only 111. was
due. (Hear.) Now he contended that a system, which
would admit of such unjust demands and oppreasiuns, must
be bad.
Mr. GOULI3URN said, that government had the sub-
ject under consideration, with the view of seeing what
amendment vonlil be devised.
Mr. HUNIE asked the noble marquis whether the tythes
of England had engaged the attention of government, but
received 110 answer.
The petition was read, after which
Lout EBRINGTON repeated fir. Hnine's inquiry.
Lord LONDONDERRY replied, that lie was not
aware of government having any inteution to introduce a
measure on this subject. When Breit. was such intentiate
lie should be happy to give nutlet: to the hatax.
Petition ordered to be printed.
Mr. ELLICE presented a petition from an individual
named Ti ow, 'Haying for more bate, as he could not gel .1
the opinion of tour trustees regarding the Five per Cents.
scheme.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, lie
saw no t CAW', for departing from the plan lie had already
aunoiunced. Particular eases of hardship would be sus-
ceptible of special remedy.
Mr. TtintsEv protested against this bill being consi-
dered like Mr. Pellianes—it 5505 its no respect like it.—
When was the report to he brought ?
Tile CHANCELLOR. of the EXCIiEQVER said, the
report could be discussed on Thursday.
Mr. GRENFELL asked, whether (lucre was any rate of
remuneration between the Government and the Batik fur
managing the reductions of the rive per Cents.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied,
that no late of re 1111 l wration had been agreed upon;
there was to be a clause introduced into the bill fur such
purellse.
Mr. P. GRENFELL Said, the subject was important,
and ought to be closely watched by the house. The ma-
nagement of the public debt gave the Batik 270,01;01. a
year, and would annually cost that suet, except the noose
interleted. Had the wisdom of true mouthy given them
another Bank, this management would be at ninth less
expellee.
Sir R. WILSON asked, whether there was any haib in
the i ionour of an interruption of peace between Russia
and *flukey
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY had no hesitation
to dubs' er, thotigh the question was calculated to affect
the 111..lket, that there was out the least cause for such
rumour.
Sir IL WILSON said lie had asked, because he was
deeply interested Ist the question.
Mr. SCARLET I' gave notice, that on the 3d of April he
should again introduce his bill to emeriti the poor laws,
supposing the 4,000,0001. scheme of goveinunalt to be
abandoned.—( Hear.)
Lord LONDONDERRY did not see any necessary
comiectiois between 1.111:11 luaus and the poor laws.
Mr. SCARLET said it might be seen. linen the re-
m' to, that nothing could be more injtuions to the interests
'dike pour than lending the public money in such manlier.
The house then went into a committee ua the Five per
Ceots. bill.
Mr. GRENFELL said, he should move the rejection of
the chaise for reintirierating persons who might be ca-
lk a bill into effect. lie thought the
eageil in carryiug
Bank ought nut to make any charge, beiug the richest
corporate body in the wni
The vilely was cieared for • division. The numbers
were--Fur the clause, it—Against it, 39-111 ojoi By, 37.
After some ratifier business (lath been disposed of, and
after sonic questions relative to the estimates, the houses
on the molten of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, went
into a committee. The Attu), estanatt were I tier red to
stieli con 111 l it tec.
Lord P.AL3IERSTON detailed the estimates, and said.
that considerable seductions had beets made; that In the
patience of the army there was a thIVIIIR of upwards of one
million; that tke diminution in the iiiiinher of men was
12,';40 „ mud that this bad btu eticated by ieductog too

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companies in each regiment. He ennelnded with snoring
the grant of 68,0001. for the nsr of the army.
Cel. DAVIES complained of the continued extrava.
genre that eliaractraised our military establishments; of
the sparing diminutions, and partietilarly of the rapture
of the state. There might he tar more extensive savings
if there woe the disposition to lettuce. He maintained
that many of the offieers, one dint of every two majors, the
waggon train, Sic. might he reduced. There might be a
reduction of 5,1;01 nom, even according, to the present
principle of keeping lip the army ; there might, in fact,
be a saving of tais,toui. tie proposed such reductioess ul
an amendment.
Lord I'.II..MEINTON replies', that there was nit satis-
fying lion. gentlt men opposite. Last year a retitle:ion of
10,003 men was reanited by them, now they %etc c•inis
with a 'eduction of I2,0(0. Indeed, increase
of appetite seemed to grow from what it fed upon.
Mr. HUME said he was no party to the request of a
reduction of 10,0011. Ile last year maintained that slime
might to be a itductiott of 20,0(.0 men. He contended
that a reduction of 10,000 incii wield be made on the
number now pi °past dby the noble lard. Each thousand
reduced would pioduce a saving of 33,1i0 I. The amend-
ment proposed by his lam. filen(' (Col Davies) did nut
go far I'llaUllah; he should theta fore propuse,as ass amend-
ment, that instead of titi,bo2, the ;lumber of men should
be sti,t-02.
Mr. BENNETT contended that the present state of the
country made economy the first object, and then-tote the
reduction proposed by his hon. friend uncut to be adopted.
After some observations from Lord Althortie, Mr. Col-
craft, Sir C. Hardinge, and Sir R. Ferguson, the gallesy
*sits cleared for a division. Fur the amendment, &I--
lonthe original motion, 191i—Majui illy, I 0.
The committee then again divided on Colonel I)avies's
motion fur a reduction of 5,000 men. For the amend-
ment, a.i—A galled it, Is I—Major ity, 12th.
A slim 0'2,2 iti,2991. Ibis. 7tl was then voted for the pay
of the forces. The house resumed, and the repotl was
ordered to be received to•moi row.
The other orders wets disposed of, and the house ad-
journed at a quarter before one o'clock.
ircesiovr, mallet' 2.
Petitions were presented front Doncaster, and Peter.
borough, complaining of agiricultural distress.
Ma. Alit. WOOD presented the repot t on the London-
bridge petitions. It said, that the standing orders had
been complied with. The hon. member then moved for
leave to bring in a bill fur the removal of the water-works
at London-Midge.
Mr. IL SUININ ER expressed his astonishment at this
proceeding. Wien it might have been expected that np-
plicalion would be 1113de for leave to build a new he idge,
there was a request made for permission to remove the
water-works; is fact that power was already possessed.
Motion agreed to.
Lord LONI)ONI)ERRV said, his right hon. friend
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was wittily incapable
or bringing forward his motion on She subject of sever-
itnimations ; lie therefoi e postponed his motion till as
day.
Lord LONDONDERRY requested, that the hon. mein•
bee for Aberdeen WOlllll postpone his motion on the sub-
ject of the National Debt Office.—Put off accordiug:y.
Mr. DENISON moved for leave to briag in a bill to
amend the 17th Geo. 111. for the supprt•s•iou of riots and
seditious assemblies. The object of the bill was to ;mewl
the law respecting the proceedings to recover damages
from hundreds, for iujulies done by riotous pioceetheigs.
At Kingston eleven actions were brought, amounting to
691.; the costs were I,lool.;—there were tour actions
(lied at Croydon, to recover 71 odd, the costs were up-
wards of 5001.—The damages in one being 12s. and the
costs were 1121.—(11eat, hear.)—l lie remedy lie pur-
posed was, that the patty aggrieved should give notice
to the overseers aftet wards to the magistrates, et lio should
assess the damages; and ends assessment to be confiumed
or amended a: the Quarter Sessions. Ile moved for leave
to bring in a bill to amend Alicia act —'lotion agreed to.
Mr. KENNEDY nerved fur leave to introduce his bill
again, to alter the mode of striking the pannel in criminal
cases in Scotism,.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY withdrew his motion on the sub-
ject of the Lords of the Admiralty, which stood for
Thursday, the vote of a former night having i midi-led it
unnecessary.
Mr. COL RTENAY moved for the revival of the com-
mittee to inquiie iti,o the state and operation of the law
regarding, pn=tin discipline.
Mr.W A liitE called the particular attention of the house
to the local jut isilietions of magistrates its prisons, hoping
that some regulation would be introdneed to inured die
law on such porut.--:11otiou agreed to, and a connuittee
appointed.
Mr. PEEL gave notice, that on the 1101 inst. lie should
more fur a committee to inquire into the state of the 1.0-

I ce.
The report of the committee of supply on the Airily
Estimates VMS presented. On the rending of the lirst
resolution, granting the quantity of men,
Mr. HUAIE re-urged the necessity of further reduction.
Ile had proposed a further reduction that would save halt
a million—a stun that had been treatril as a petty paltry
saving. Ile lioped tt.e house would not deem it such.—
There were npu al ds 0'40,100 men ill England and Ire-
land, and notuitlistanding the state of Ireland, lie sliotitAt
there were tittops enough. He mu% ell og aniciti
that the number of men should be :ati3Ojo instead uf laie
00
nt
men.
Mr. WiLmoT denied that lie hail called the saving
paltry and petty, hut lie had called on the house tu icievt
the lion. membei's proposition.
Mr. HUME was glad that the lion. member drowned
the words. He still thought the saving might be ttlecte.l.
Mutton agreed to without a division, on the amendment
being pressed. Thee other resolutions were speed to.
The house then went into a committee on the Annual
Malt Tax Act.
Mr. LUsHINGTON said this deity expired l'eb. 25th,

1822.
Mr. MOCK asked about the allowances on malt in
hand.
LUSHINGTON said, the arrangements had been
explaitted last night—the allowances %%me to be made on
the, malt in baud, not on the beer. The fist evoluti
that the ditty do cease anti determine; ti:r second
e
regarded allowances on stork in hand, the rt tutus to lie
mne by lour sil pat ents. 'I. here we e other regu-
lataions to extendpo the like advantages to eland.—Agi red

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Mr. LIISHINGTON anovcil a re3olut►ou for allowatices

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