The National Register.
London, England, 1821-02-12 00:00:00


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HOUSE OF COMMONS.
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HOUSE OF LORDS,
Mr. Hutchinson, from the Bank of °England, delivered at the
Bar of the House the annual accounts presented pursuant to Act
of.Parliamcnt.
Petitions were presented, prating the restozation of the Queen's
name to the Liturgy, tivoi the notough of Neap:fake t—l li:
set-Acts of Portse—dreekan, Scotland—lloyal finroulth of Inver.
ary—Nobility and Freeholdera of the County 01 Surrey—. layor
Aldermen, Council. and Livery of the town of Nottingham—
he ard of Cripplegate 11* it lout—the 1111Mbitilllib of W Ington
—the Nobility, CierAy, and Freebohlers of the County of I rur-
ham—the Nobility, Clergy, and Fro:holders of the County of
Northuniberland. Ordered to lie on the table.
LISTLESS Ok' BIIIMINOIIANI,—fart GREY then rose to
pinatas a petitionothieli, he taid, would bring before the !louse a
subject that rtiptired the must serious attention on the part of
Parinunent. it was the Petition of the manulacturers, tradera,
and inhabitants of the town of Birotinglium. It was voted at it
meeting. authorised by the High Bailiff; which was numerously
attended. lie was really bl)! ry to say the statements to chi. pe-
tition were moth at variance with dor c statements which, on the
first day of the Scission, were he:ud front a noble Lord. It was
said. on that occasion, by the noble Lord, st.enkin3 from a pain-
graph in the speech troth the throne, that n general improvement
was to be traced in the commercial and mantle:during pwapects
of the country. Birmingham am undoubtetily an exception to
the statement, of which, to say the least, he entertained eonsuler•
able doubt. The petition di.teluaed tact truly lainetitubie. it
stated ti._ latest distresses of the manufacturers to be so &l la.
rable, that the matters were not able to onyloy the workmen
more than three or four days in the week. One feurth of the
population ass reduced to the panful necessity of todnitg assist.
mice nom the parish. From the bot Matra:talon ac could obtain
it appeanal that the manufacturers of Lancaster and other Coen-
un were not in a better /aide. Tile petition was then reed.
The Earl of I.IVERPOt I . said he had Out the feet objection
to stair the petition to a counstittev, and it ary remedy could be
provided, he expresseda hope that the committee would not
prupoae it unless they could tie:illy see their way.
flue .larqui. of LA N aDOW t 1: said the character of the
Petition entitled it to u mutt indulgent reception. With regard
to agricultural distress, it might be occasioned by increase of
protluce, but was it not more probablo, whoa they looked at the
Increase of taxation. that the cause wasaditilitlibiled consumption?
Were not the poor in many instances nbligial to feed on potatoes
instead of bread ? and would not that circumstance occasion a
decrease in the consumption of corn ? Taxation increased all the
dillicultiet. flatly nolia: Lord moved fur tile appointment of a
Committee to consaler the Iloute Trade, the noble Marquis said
he would give the motion hi, r•tipport.
Lord CALI'IIOIIPE thuugnt if the labours of the Committee
on foreign tr.de were to be followed up, great counnereed advan-
tages might arise.
The Petition wild then referred to the Committee oa Foreign
Trade.—Adjourned.

TUESDAY, FEB. 6.
Lord WILLOUGIMY DI IitMOKE took the oaths
and laie seat.
Mr. from the East-lostlia Company INrectors,
pry:rotted all Account of Supeunaooatinu Petastuiss vont-
to Officers of the East bolts Company doling the hot
year. The di:V..llll', NI IV pile...lllrd puists.ost to Act oh
I hey %%vie laid Ott the trOlc.
The Home then :Idiom Heil lull It. Igsol.loW at 'en o'clock,
wilco the Lord Claauctllor will sit to hear Appeals.
EDN E•D V, 'TA; 1.
The Lord Chancrilto otletstkii the Ilouse early for the
!miaow of heal log isiliorai•. Nio other business %%as dune

TIIG It FDA I', FEB. 8.
NAPLES.—haiI (.1:1.1", hiludin:, to a paper FUCC1111)
I oiniminiceted h% Or Earl of LIVCri 1, Gill. rr:Teet to
ti.e affair II of Naples, ailid be ass amt) the document tuna
hot stniaf.tettir). lir had •rive) lb .• it would linve
given mote into' mating., :mil ❑t toiler to bring the aubjcet
noin berm-. l'atimite hi, he gabs. mutt r, that oil
he ahntiln move for mluil 11114.1111:111011:1, would hr lbfiiChlr) •
The Lail hit(l.o( I. a. d, its. bud nn toliji intim to
give immolation, but he shoo d %r until Monday at hat
he bud to ,ay cm the anuirrt.
FRIDAY, FEB. 9.
The 1.03.1) CIIANLELLOK attended the Ilonse at an
eail rani to Mai appenls.
!Joke'. lilt u. SSON.— COMM' were heard in this
case, and Judgment postponed.
Noithmtv u. thus appeal from the Conn of
Conioirl .sere Deard, and 1111 tiler proceed-
ings postptnu•d to Wt d leads).— House adjourned.

The gallery was crowded at an early our, and there was an
untuually numerous attendance of members before the arrival of
the Speaker. The Speaker took the chair at &quarter before four
o'clock.

Mr. CURWEN moved for accounts of 'fallow imported within
the last year ; also on Foreign Oohs; and also of ruirount of duties
on Agricultural florses.—Severally ordered.
Mr. JAM ES gave notice, that on the 19tli instant lie should
submit a motion to the house tespccting the interference of the
military dining the progress of the lute election at Caritsle.
Sir N. LEMON presented a petition from treeliulders and
other loyal inhabitants ol Borkiiiii, praying that the Queens
name might be restored to the Liturgy.
Mr. BENNETT gave notice, that on Wednesday next he
Ai uld movefor an account of the number of Criminal Infirm-
ati tus, filed tx officio, by the presint Attorney General.
Mr. CHETW ND moved tor returns of Milos paid by
treasurers of counties tor passing vagrants. NV hen the accounts
were produced, he should submit wine measure that would, if
agreed to, effect a sushi,/id ihu,toUl. per annum.
Papers ordered.
Lord NUGEN'r presented a petition for the restoration of the
Qutcn's name to the Litingy, inquiry intu the Milan Conitinis-
sion, di.e.—Ordered to be pcinteil.
Lord J. RUSSELL moved the second reading of the Grain-
po Disfranchisement Bill. He apprehended 110 opposition in
tot. stage of the proceeding, which, being a,recd to, wood
brin„.• the bill to the stage at which it dropped tact session; and
tt.e debate could then be taken on the qucsuoir of gong into a
cuotinittee on Monday next.
Sir W. DE CRESPIGNY moved for the Report of the
Weeiver General of tlie districts of Dartford, sec.—Ordered.
tr .1. NEWpowr moved ler copies of all communications to
th • Exchequer, Ireland, relative to the supply of stationery,
and the proceedings with Alderman king.—Ordered.
Mi. Aid. WOOL) moved tor returns of the produce of the
dutie; on Insurance since 1819, disttuguisliing Ene,land from
Scotland.—Ordered. •

Mr. GOOCll,adverted to the distressed state of agriculture
asked the orib:e lord (Castlere.qt) whether be intended to submit
all measure for its relief, ur to move a committee of inquiry.
Lord CASTLEREAtiII reicher!, that. important as was the
ugricultutar interest, that interest could oat suffer 1. iihout other
c.asces Jai being &fleeted. Tin: government Mal no measure to
pops., that It war.. conceived coual be useful; but the inquiry of
last year proved, that the Mot-eases of agricut:ure dal nut result
hots the emit of the law, but (torn cutoni haters:l/J tiecutivaanecb.

Tfit VAIONAL REOI3TEII:

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Wear, hear.) If the house should deceit inoi lldsi ry rot
government would reader all dasistance; but id latch
carne he should guard himself agmnst Molding out any false hope-',.
and above all against lending; himself to tic idea. that any thmg
could be countenanced by the trimesters tout would be etriculated
to affect the revenue.
THE CiI.NDIJCT OF 311WIsTERS.-The Marquis of TA-
VISTOCK rose for the purpose of moving a resolution,
expressive of the opinion of that twine, regar, the conduct of
Itlmlslers anti he hoped that the ',atilt would be in tinison with
the eentionents of the tummy, now felt from one end of it to the
other. Above all, he hoped lie should have the support of the
member fin [Bomber (Mr. Wilberlerec), tor his fears loud indeed
bede realised-the crown had indeed been must unhappily mixed
with those proceedings. The golden rule of justice had been
deputed Prow—where there vas doubt the accused had taw had
the benefit of it. An act of injustice, and of pure and unqualified
mischief bad been committed. The country had %Sewed it in
snot light, and the house would now have another opportunity
oil proving whether the charges of the reformers against tnat
house were t tie or hot.-(Cheers.)-It would now be seen whether
that house represented the feeling of the country; at all events,
should they not chord such proofs. he hoped to see their tables
tittered with petitions calling for that relOorm which had so long
been denianded.-(Continued cheers.)-The filthy and abomina-
ble evidence had indeed derogated from the 'beim), of the crown.
as well as that of o aril:intent ; and yet the noble tort talked of
** technical acquittal, and interring guilt. that just? Was
character to be whispered a•.v.ty by such means? But further,
the mintaers had declared, that it the charges were not proved,
the rights of the Queen should be recognised; and how had they
redeemed their promi e? They now said that opoosition wits
urged by men who sought ter office. Had they not done every
thing Ihr office themselves? Had they not disturbed the Iran-
quititty of the empire? Had they not created a thvisitoii Between
the parliament end the petiole a-and all that they might keep
their places. (Cheer:..)-ilitherto there had been great majorities,
and iii oppresition, too, to the sentiments of the people; and lie
much feat eil that many had voted contrary to (lieu own semi.
flints as well as to those of the country. If this motion were
lost, he should hereafter feel disposed to trouble the noble lord or
the house, fur then he should deem the voice of the noble lord
every thing, and that of the people nothing. (leittd cheers.)-
the did rot urge the motion against the ministers oven the pitiftil
motive of putting his friends into their places. lie did not wish
to see a change of men. sit:met a clamige of system tCheers);
and it his own friends were in °dice to. ttttt row, lie would not
support them except they, oad introduce a chunge of syteem. For
himself, he sought not othee; lie telt so little cotalified fur public
basinessaliat lie would not accept °dice. lie level retirement too
well; and he was indifferent about that house, except it allinekel
hint the nicamsof being useful to his country; and alien there
should no longer female tile chance of being useful to Ills country.
then indeed should lie be more anxious wee ever for diet
retirement for which he felt himself much better qualified. As
to desiring to remove the ministers, that his own friends might
get their place., under existing eirettinstaaces that would not be
any very enviable advantage. lie knew not who could envy the
ministers the possession of their places, but repeated that if his
own friends were to obtain power, he would not support even
them, except' the chaege Mama was 3CCOtitiallited by a change it
system.-(lmni cheering.)-The noble lord concluded with
movong-That it appeared to the house, that his Majesty's
aninistera were not justified in the proceedings they had adopted
tigainst the Queen by any political expediency of necessity; and
that their conduct in the whole of those oroceetanes were dero-
gatory to the honour of the crown, and injurious to the best
interests of the people.-(Cheer.)
Mr. I.A lil BTON seconded the motion. Ile deemed it a real
honour to comperate with the noble lord. The hereditary attach•
mete of the muible lord to the principles of liberty was well
known; anti whatever might be the result of the debate, be felt
assured that it must ulumately produce the most beueficial
advantages to the country. As to the question, it now appeared
that the ministeis had deemed it right to bring forward the pro-
secution on such evidence as had been adduced-evidence that
was wholly disbelieved by such enormous numbers. The Aldan
board. he still lipped. would be inquired into. Though ministers
evaded responsibility so often here, there must be responsibility
somewhere.
Mr. B. BATHURST said, the motion of the noble lord, it
was evident from the speeches of the noble mover and honottreble
bet:under, unmet at nothing short of the removal ot his Majesty's
ministers, and a reform in pat hatnent. (Hear, hear, noel the
opposition bide of the home.) And here it would not be improver
to express regret that the noble lord had expressed Ins determine,
tion not to take part with any administration, as Well a coadjutor
must do honour to either sete of a question, by the weight of his
authority and character.-Tic right lion. gent. coaeiuded by
calling upon the house, if they were convinced that ministers had
given counsel to his elajesty, with the view of keeping their
plates, at once to moteed to that 111C:SUre which mint tteptive
ministers of their bitUltliollS. (Hear, and a laugh.)
Mr. WII ITAIORE said, that at the outset lie must declare,
that it was hitt:neon to vote for the motion of his Noble Friend,
taut he metal state his grounds for making that determination.
Nothing in the world in his opinion, but a case in wince tioe
succession to the Throne woutd be endangered, could justify
such a measure us the prosecution of tee Queen.-(Louil cries of
hear from the Opposition !) 'Diet never was in lite:ARM. Then
arose the question es to the intwalay which the alltaael miscon-
duct of the Queen isms said to violate-miscoialuct which had
not been witnesteal by any respectable person, hat which urigi•
nutted in certain dal( flilllOUrs spread abruad by private entente,
end at complete variance with good seise Wilt feeling tit the
community.-(Cheers.) Was Ler approach to thiScouutry—was
the manner of that approach aht SUUjeCt for reproach ? It hat
been said, that she forced her way to this country t-indeed !-
would it not be mute humane as well as more true to acknow-
ledge that She was biked to come here?-Cheers front the oppo-
bitten.) The Queen had to cause two UltetllittlettS—tuber to
submit to the sentence ethic.) had been pu,sed upon her by her
enemies (tor she had it was known to the world, been pr Judged)
-(Cheers) or to come forward and face her idCUtals.—(Loud
cries of hear ! ) lie was firmly persuaded of the existence of a
illanous faction in the ouuntry, who delighted iii netitling the
most sacred institutions-(lear 110111 the whole lioube)-and
storied in every thing tending to degrade Government, Religious
and Morality ; and lie would ask whether ugh a IllUltlent ought
to have Leen selected fur such an novettieation ? The lion.
Member called upon the House to look round upon ell the
celamittes whicti tentattened the nootary-to look to the-politic
debt, emoutiting to b.. 10 yeeil .e lieu the lollittlatloll ut mat
Mot should be taken away, meeker might be substituted.; but
lit 3 appreolenthel the suspicions whiCa would arise flout the
methods taken to get rid al the present props Of that debt would
operate much to hie pubac Homy. It was esosenuelly aeces.sury
that ell classes should be melted 'town and tointaatintitiel together,
and that all torni and punctilio should be alfindoned, tor the
purpose of ooneiliating tile immense populution of the country.
Justice required Mat tile Queen's nave should be restored to the
Liturgy, and that she should have the full enjoyment of all her
right and pi iviteges-(mud cries of hear.) To this conclusion
lie must conic. The lion. Member concluthd by declaring that
he was of no party, that lie was uhknuwii to either party, and
that he liatt spoken from u conviction that the national peace and
lumpiness were in uanger, and shut the people should, If u crisis
wire not %tailed our by Goveintuent, be itinnediataly A:uneaten:eh
(Loud etieers.)
Air. BAN K ES, after having highly complimented the lion.
Gentletuati who S01:41: lest, poet:cad to argue taauust tile mo-
tion. lie at the sante time took the opportuttity to declare his
impattilaity upon all moutons, Well to eldOilse Ministers fur
their general conduct.

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Sir :SIACINfI'OS II leis hinudf irresistibly called upon by
the ohserratioas which had paieeeded from the hon. gent. who
lied hist sat demo to 'noise untie aiihnanversions, which their ex-
traordinary ;elms din seem to him to call for. TI e lion. gent.
hme, nankess said that he approved neither of the beginning,
the eon:Mu:scion, nor the end ot the proceedings the: were lately
instituted agultra her Slujesty, and then, to ptove that his con-
sistency wits at least eqnal to his impartiality, he refused to give
his support to a motion which embodied in it that very sentitoent •
he had !A) expreased. (Hens, It ur.) Ile (Sir J. Mackintosh))
need tun follow the hon. gent. through the vitriate, topics of his
speech : lie need nut allude to what they had heard, about the
last -to years, for the purpose of evincing the lion. gentleintes
impartiality. ICheers.i'llie hon. member (Mr. Betakes), iu order
to put an end to every rivalry or competitioa for place, which he
considered so dixistroth, consented to give his vote agaiisut the
present motion. But it was curious •ci observe the objections of
the lion. member. (Inc was, that they (the opposition) had at.
tended at public meetings of tin, people, and there given pledg s.
Pledges ol what: 'fist they would support thus which appeared
to be the general wish of the nation. It was, indeed, true that
they had atteancel at public meetings of the ; eople of England
but when was it that tuts was impute:l its a crime ? %Vas it ever
heard before the present occasion, (when was it supposed by a
gentleman Wilil whited to show his strict impartiality,) that it
was u crime to attend at ;scathe meetings of the people? Was it
nut the duty of members to attend at public nierthigs ; to give
their opinisms wi err they thotteht they. were required ; to reclaim.
the people at' they the:iglu they were misled ? ICheer6 from the
numsterial benchts.l Ile would tell the hon. members, when
their cloves and those or their leader, who gave them the signal,
subsided, what it wits lie means by reclaiming the people. Ile
would soy that it wiewlien they were set right with respect to any
public delusion. It was the duty of members to state to the
people their sentiments upon passing events. It was their duty
to attend to meetings, to prevent the slangs:row consequences of
the measures watch his Majesty's ministers had resorted to; and
if there was a doubt of that duty, it would have been removed by
the division on a recent occasion, when u majority of the House
of Commons had declared war against yin people of England.—
Ile would not say that this had been decidedly done, but such
was the tendency of the late majority to which he alluded. The
hon. gentleman (Mr. Banker) next turned his objections to Par-
liamentary reterm, which lie conceived several gentlemen on that
side of the hosts& stood pledged to ; and his great objection was
that this reform was to be effective. (Hear, hear.) He haul
heard many amsleinn what was called moderate reform.,
Inn he believed that that which was must objected to
by all those who dreaded all retinin was effective reform.—
The hen. member concluded by saying that the greatest breach
hurl been mode by diciest theism's in that house that haul occurred,
in his memory—e bleach between the people and that house.—
(Cheers.) lie was afraid that the division of this night would
widen this breach (I• ar, hear.); and he greatly feared that it
would soon become impossible to prevent the most deplorable
consequences. The House of Commons hall snpported ministers
in the late proceedings by a majority of from .4 to I—the people
had opposed then, by a pasijonty estito to t. ("No, no, from the
ministerial side, and loud cheers lions the oppositiesn side of the
!louse.) Ile whaled that this ground of difference and wits were
removed, and that a glorious peace" should be made between
the people and their representatives; lie wished that " a happy
alba:tee should be thrilled betwecti the parliament and the
nation....(liouti cheers.) 11 this glorious peace—if this happy
alliance could be etfec,tal, they woasel enable this country to brave
the consequences of " the glorious peace" and •• the happy alli-
ance" with the pow: woes of Esiror.—( Repeated cheers.) If
ministers, of whose posecedings so many had disapproved who
had cc 11111 l 'only supporual them; if hamsters, thus condemned
by their friends, add pronounced by themsels es to be no longer
trusted but tolerated—if they called liar support, and should be
summated on the principles of the member for Corfeseastle, or
on such principles, all lie (amid soy was, that he had done Ins
duty, and exerted all the means in his power to prevent the fatal
consequences which he dreaded. (Loud and corunued cheering.)
Mr. l'E El, declared, that he viewed the conduct of ministers
with disapprobation, as tits as related to the exclusion of the
gtiesen's name from the Liturgy, and with respect to sonic other
partieuisrs attending the trial ; but he generally approved of
the steps they ha I taken, in proceeding to an enquiry, as it
IliCy had not adopted astute measures upon the subject, they
might themselves have been liable to impeachment at a future
period, for not having questioned the right of an individual
against whom such charges had been made to share the throne
of Great Britian. lie then witteneltsl generally against the
motion.

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I. irds Nugent and Milton strenuously supported the motion,
after winch
G. BENNET rose, and moved that the further consider-
ation of this question be adjourned till ui-moirow.

Lord CAS'rLEREAGII said, that if then: were any object
to he obtained by finishing the debate Mat night, the hour was
not to late 43 to prevent it ; but, if the intention really were to
adjourn, he must say, that the house had already sat much
liiii,er thau itusually did on such occasions.
The SPEAKER then put the question of adjournment ; when
t'se house seemed equally divided. Cries of N iiiidraa , with-
draw," were heard, upon which Lord Castlereagh observed,
that as it appeared to be the wish of several members to adjourn,
lie should not press the house to u division.
Toe SPEAKER then declared that lie thought the ayes had
it, and the house itimiedid:ely adjourned at one o'clock.