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Many were sent to work in garrisens. Amongst them, the pa-
triotic minister Argueha was sentenced to ten years loud labour
in a finite's as a private so'dter. These things provoked. the re-
velittion.—Ferdinand thelaied in li:s speech to the Cot tea, that
the Allied Sovereigns at Lavbach had declined till interference
iii the afikirs of Spain. Wilik lord I .andonderry lived, no h:-
terference took place. The Allied Say, reigr.s in Mil, declared
in three instances. they would not intertet e with Spain, yet they i
at last gave up their premises; art) here he might ask, whether
any man could doubt their intention was to strike down liberty
all over the world? They had commenced by striking at the
press. Since thla, the Allied Sovereigns had omitted no ("Tor-
tunny to beat down and destroy the liberties of their subjects.—
On the 24th olJun.. 11622, the Eliglish Government first under-
stood that France hail hostile views with respect to Spain.—They
formed the cordon amaktuire, and it was manifest that war was
determined on. The English Government at that time could not
remain in ignorance of the consequences which must arise from
France taking possession of the Spanish ports. They could not
avoid asking what became oldie balance of tower in the hostile
Mews of France. On the t7th of September Mr. Canning wrote
to the noble duke, imtructing him to declare that his Majesty
would not be party to any interference in the afiiiirs of France.
The meaning cf that was, that while a blow was to be struck
which must affect our dearest interests, his Alajesty's ministers
said, come what may, they would stand with their arms folded,
and do nothing to prevent the commission of time. lilts Ma-
jaty's ministers did nothing, and bald but little. What they did
say was ill said. When the noble duke was called on to state
the views of his Majesty's ministers, he stated that it would be
consistent with the interests of the Spanish nation for die English
Government to undertake the part of mediators. The noble duke
felt ilia: great were die lienefits conferred on the King of France
by Spain and other nations, and his opinion of the gratitude of
the French Government was so.:. as matte him consider it iin•
possible France would undertake any steps hostile to Spain. The
noble duke added to the false confidence an admission that the
army of observation was justified by the contiguity of civil war.—
In his despatch of the %Rh of December, he admitted that the
revolution in Spain had endangered the safety of other States;
and so ended the negotiation at Verona. During the whole of
that me-glaciation, in which all the mischief was done, there was
nothing decisive from Mr. Secretary Canning. The 'Sake of
Wellington then went to Pads, and there commenced the nego-
tiation list the mediation of England. This mediation tailed.—
The ntoble duke,. had he been sufficiently acquainted with the
constitution under which he lived, could not have made the re•
presentations he did to the Spanish Government. The propo-
sitions ot the noble duke were, first to vi.late the principles of
their constitution,and to make those concessions to a threatening
enemy which must fur ever destroy the principles of independ-
ence in every part of the world. The Spaniards, nobly senaible
of the value of their oaths, and the principles of :slice constitution,
could not agree to the terms. The proposition to alter their
c. astitution was made in the presence of an enemy, which was
likely to produce the worst consequences. On the Yid of Jun.
Sir Charles Stewart told Mr. Canning that there was room for
mediation. On tile same day, a letter from M. Chateatibriand
stated, that nothing but the surrender of the Spanish constitution
would satisfy France. The object, in fact, was, to procure an
entire surrender of the Spanith constitution. Jl. de Chateau-
bzimul, in February, says, if the Spanish constitution would
consent to the erection of a second chamber, hostility would cease.
It fa but until the 19th of February dial Sir Wm. A'Court was
put in possession of the pacific views of France. These
negociations having terminated, the result wiar a most iniquitous
war. Did the noble lords feel that the honour of this country had
been preserved ? Was it honouruble to induce men to break
their oaths, and sacrifice every prMiciple of independence ?
—Did they think that it was fur die advantage of Fiance such a
war should have ensue.% ?,—lt was marked by aii the atrocity of
Napoleon, and all the upprision of die BOW bons. In the conflict
in which Spain was engaged, the general feeling of the British
people wets in volved.—The Spanish nation had acted with dignity
and forbearance, which might have done honour to older sate.
tits hope was, that in this contest die Spaniards would consider
that the war involved every thing dear to man, and that they
would oppose that resistance which had formerly triumphed.—
The cause was independence. They wanted no wild and visiunary
object; but a tree and constitutional monarchy. The noble lord
concluded by moving,
That an Address be presented to his Majesty to return the
humble thanks of that House fur the communication graciously
made to on -address for certain Papers, relating to the negocia-
dons at Verona, Paris, and Madrid. To express their deep re-
gret then the desire manifested by his Majesty fur peace between
France and Spain had not been gratillud—at the same time they
were obliged to declare that the course pursued by his Mejesty's
Ministers was not the true course to support die independence of
the fintisli Nation. and avert die war. That the French King,
forgetful of the valuable aisistance which had contributed to his
resruration, and invading the right which every nation posoLstl
to alter and amend its conetitutauti, had commenced an attack on
Spain, whose independence had all dines been an object of Brie
ti,li policy. Tu acquaint his Majesty twat the House highly
disapproved of the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers, ia having
suggested to the Spaniards a change in their Constitution similar
to that proposed by Fiance, and in haring shewn, throughout the
whole course of the negociations, more solicitous to serve the
French Goat:re:lntent than Spain, unjustly threatened with war.
To Jelin:sent to his Majestp, that in the view taken of the late
negociatitnui with France, they could place no reliance on that
Government. To assure his .Majesty that is triumph by France
ever Spain would he injuitious to this country. To tictlaxe that
a mote prompt decisive policy might have realised the hopes en-
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ter taintltl of preventing war, &e.
'Tile Earl of II Altlto NM' lose and said, that whatever was
the conduct pursued by the noble Duke who represented this
country at the Congress of Verona, he in no degree exceeded die
strict bounds of the instructions with which he was furnished,
and Ministers were prepmeal to share with the noble duke die
consequences arising out of the pie..ey there pursued. The sole
of our interference was by conciliation, to avert the impending
storm, and our good offices in this respect were urged to die last
moment that hope remained. As to the assertion that France
Seeks in this contest her awn uggandisetnent, it cannot be men-
tioned. this Lordship was far from vindicating the conduct of
the French government, but lie could nut see how France could
be aggrandiatal by the result. Site may conquer Spain, and re-
place Ferdinand oh his mil ' eel throne, but she must then re
tire from the country, idol leave Spain to her own discretion. As
to an attack upon Portugal, his Lordship said he feared no such
event. Undoubtedly if any were made, this country would not
stand by an idle spectator, provided the aggression did not come
from Portugal herself, and in that case we were not bound to
stand forth an her champion. Although he agreed with the
' noble Lunt, that no man could calculate on the ultimate conse-
quences of this war, he trusted the House would acquit the go-
vemient of having acted in any way derogatory to the honour or
. interests of the nation.
Lord lIOLLAiaII said, that without any degree of arro-
gnome, be woo d take upon himself to prove tied the Noble
Earl who had just s .t down, did not put the question in a fair
shape before the (louse i ard that he is in total iAtiorance of
the Spanish Constitution, of w inch he hiss said so much and
knows so little. lle (Lord Holland) agreed with every word
that had (seen uttered by his noble friend, the mover of the
addr•ss, and he siocerely thanked him for the eller( be lout
Pint night made to rescue the !louse and lice country from the
it sgrace which the papers upon the table were caiculated to
bring upon tooth. These papers had failed to convince any
man in the country that the character of the nation hat teen
done justice to Ly Lis Majes,'s ministers in the late aegoeia-

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lion. And never did a set of men enter open such It subject
with a brighter prospect of success, dr under mere favourable
circumstances. Circumatances well calculated to insure suc-
cess. But there wax ane thing viewing—gond will on the pail
of the wed:dos. 'they had nut teen no 11111 A Illelit as by any
nicaos to Relive at a good end. Much mar said idiom the
:theses ef the .S, anials Cunetitution—lie did not mean to assert
that it Mat in all its parts a p a feet one ; tl.ere were faults in
it. But with all the knowledge he hail of Spain, and he re-
aided there some lime, and had ninny ft isaids there, yet he
would not have the presumption to ask them to make any alte-
rations it—rind yet the relighted Czar of Russia, from his
regions of snow, tidies upon himself to do so—yea, calls upon
them to alter that Constitution, of which in 1814 he had signed
the gnarantee. Did it not come well from such powers as
Russia, Plated's, and Jeannie, to find fault with the Constitu-
tion of Spain, haying none at all themselves? They complain
of only one Chamber—but base they any ?—As to the Con-
stitution of the Cortes, any man who is conversant with' Spa-
nish history, most know that the first foundation of the 'mo-
narchy in that country rested upon the Curter ; and at this day
an old law exists, which says, no Act shall !. • binding with-
out Ode concurrence." He fully concurred in the address
proposed, and to which he gave his most heartfelt support.
Lord GRAN VILLE contended, that his Majesty's ministers.
in the conduct they had pursued, had consulted the best interests
of the country, and concluded by
.mseing an amendment.
I expressing the concurrence of the House in the. principle' laid
' down in the papers communicated to tt ens. unit their &infliction
at the manner in which they had been applied during the late
negociutems, though lamenting that the efforts to preserve the
peace of Europe had been unsuccessful, and declaring that they
should be at all times ready to give their cordial suppot t to all
measures which might be necessary to vindicate the honour of
his Majesty's Clown, and the interests of tl:c country.
The Duke of BUCKINGHAM said a few words against the
address, and in support of ministers.
The Duke of WELLINGTON entered into a defence of hie
conduct.
Earl GREY, in a long audible speech, rte; ported the no.
lion.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL answered the objections mad*
by the noble Lords who supported the motion.
Lord ELLEN BOROUGH shortly replied.
The hou e then divided—
Content, present 96—Proxies - 46-142
Nut-content - - 29—Ditto - 19— 48
Majority for the amendment - -
Their loedships adjourned at half past two o'clock.
sumac, arm 25.
Two private bills were brought up by Lord Stanley and other
menabers from the Commons.
Lord KEN YON presented a petition from Bellinasioe against
the Roman Catholic Claims.
The Marquis of Conysigliam presented a petition from Do-
negal in f.suur of a Bill for the Commutation of Tithes.
Hop DUTIES.—The Marquis of Camdeu presented several
petitions from the hop planters in Kent and Sussex, praying
for repeal of the duties.
The Earl of DARNLEY had no desire to oppose the peti-
tions, but rose to stale that the cultivation of hops in Kent was
anhject to considerable hazard, A rich soil was required, and
notwithstanding all the care of the farmer; he frequently sus-
tained great losses. It was a question worthy the attention of
government, whether it would nut be expedient to encourage
the growth of hops.
The Marquis CAMDEN said a few words in answer to the
observations of the noble earl; after which the petitions were
laid on the table.
Tits Ceowns or FRANCS, CID SPAM—Lord HOLLAND'
said he, in 1816, addressed a question to the noble earl (Li-
verpool) for the purpose of inquiring whether there were any
recret articles of treaty between this country dud other states.
for preventiug an union of the two crowns of France and Spain.
The noble curl, on that occasion, said there was no treaty of
such description, which was not before Parliament. lie bad
lately received a similar answer, but the noble earl hail pre-
sented papers which released the Ilosee Isom some difficulty
on the subject. Mr. Canning,. in a mite, acknowledged the
existence of a secret treaty between his late 'Majesty and his
Catholic Majesty, relating to the crown of Spain. By that
treaty his Catholic Majesty engaged not to enter into any con-
tract with Spain on the subject of the family compact, to the
injury of his L. itatinie Majesty. The noble lond did not see
in that treaty any bar to the onion of the crowns of France and
Spain. If all the lives of the Bourbon dynasty were to drop
oil to-morrow, there was nothing to prevent Ferdinand the
Seventh from coming to the crown of France. The noble earl
had said all the treaties upon the snbject had been laid before
Parliament.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL could not recollect what be said
in answer to the noble lord in 1816. Ile had no difficulty in
saying the treaty was signed in 1814, just after the general
peace. It was considered a sort of humiliation to the French
Government, and therefore remained secret.
Lord HOLLAND wished to know how it could liar the right
of Ferdinand the Seventh to the throne of France.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, all treaties on the right of

succession would lead to a union of the crowns of France and
Spain.
The Earl of DARNLEY ;adverted to the state of Ireland
with respect to tithes, and intimated that he should bring the
subject before the Douse, it would be open to any noble lord
connected with the i terest of Ireland to make any suggestion.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL brought the subject of delay
with respect to appeals under the consideration of the House,.
and concluded hj moving the appointment of a committee 10
inquire into the means of facilitating justice as to hearing ap-
peals, writs of error, and other judicial proceedings.
After a few words from Lords lloseherry and Cawdor, in
support of the motion, the committee was appointed.—Ad•
juuracd to Mus Way.

lIOUSE OF COMMONS.
MONDAY, *rum 21.

A petition was presented from the grand jury of the county of
Sligo against the Grand Jury Presentments Bill.—Ordered to
be printed.
Mr. LAM BTON presented a petition from ship-owners of
Shields against the W aretiousing Bill.
Mr. SYKES spoke in support of the petition.
Mr. W A LLACE thought that the petitioners look an erro-
neon' view of their own interests.
I Petition ords.red to be printed.

Mr. LAMBTON presented a petition from Sunderland. *kb
a siniitar prayer.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. WYVILL presented a petition from the York Whig
Clot) for reform.
Lord MILTON said be should to-morrow present the York-
shire petition.
Mr, C. BENETT presented a petition from the poulterers in.
tau• Metropolis, to legalize the sale or game.
' Mr. G. BENETT gave notice that en May 29 he sbusill

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Move fur leave to bring io a bill to abolish the punishment of
whipping.
The Quorum Magistrates' Bill and the occasional Freelto:d.
ors' Bill were postponed till Moodily next.
Mr. T. WILSON presented a petition from healers in wool.
in favour of a measure to repeal the ,tax on foreign wool.—
Ordered to be printed.
On the motion that the report of the Weights and Measures
Bill be presented.
Mr. D. GILBERT observed that this bill would introduce
no confusion ; it would only restore the proper state of weights
and measures.
Report presented and read. Bill ordered to be read a third
time on Friday.
Mr. CALCRA FT presented a report of the Bridpert Harbour
Bill.—Agreed to.
WAR LHOUSI MO 11111.1..—Mr. BENET (of WHO presented
a petition spina, the Warehousio,s boll from woollen manufac-
turers of Wiltshire.—Read and ordered to be Fiuted.
Mr. S. WORTLEY presented a similar petition frOill • 'ler
manufacturers of Leeds.
Lord MILTON trusted that the prayer on this occasion
might sot be attended to—but that they should have the
right
gentleman's support when they applied for the repeal of
the tax ou foreign wool, • ammo which sound pulley
called for.
Mr. S. WORTLEY presented a similar'petition from the
'town and neighhourlitrod of Huildersheld.—He was at issue
with his noble friend oa the sulbjett of this petition ; he wished
that the question should be enquired into as to the foreign
cloths.
Lord MILTON said, if foreign cloths were required by a
foreigner, why should they have to come to this country t He
was atruid there was much delusion on this subject.. Of the
policy of repealing the foreign wool tax, he wan perfectly
persuaded.
Mr. S. WORTLEY replied, after which the petition was
ordered to he printed.
Lord NUGENT gave notice, that on the 2d of May lie should
move for leave to bring in a bill to place the Engli.ll Roman
Catholics On the same tooting, as near as pcosible, with the
Roman Catholics of Ireland. The House would be aware
that their case was one of much greater' hardship than those of
Ireland ; and lie gave the 'notice, understauding that the Irish
Aunt ney-General did not intend to bring lorward any proposition
'on this subject during the present session.
The estimates were presented of the expenditure of the
Stitisb museum.
Mr. GOULBURN gave notice that on the 30th of May, he
should bring forward a motion relative to the state of Ireland,
and lie should move the renewal of the Insurrection Act. Iln
would not anticipate the debate ; but on the day maned he
should be prepared lc go into she particulars, when be would
state what the Government dc. meal requisite.
Returns were afterwards ordered of all persona prosecuted,
down to April 19th, under the Insurrectiod Act ; the results of
the prosecutions, &c.
Mr. WALLACE moved the third reading of the Warehous-
ing Bill, which was read • third time and !teased.
Mr. HUME gave notice of a motion for the 6th of Mac, for
'the sppointment of a committee to enquire into the revenue of
"Newfoundland.
The other orders were diapered of, and the house thco
adjourned.

TUESDAY, APr.ll. 22.

A person from the Treasury presented various accounts pre-
viously ordered by the House.
Sir H. PARNELL postponed from this day till this driy
anitisht his motion respecting steam packets, (minded on the
Holyhead Rbad's Committee's fifth report.
Mr. DENISON presented!' petition Gorr Fsritharn against
the coal duties.

Mr. P. 5100 RE brought in a bill to consolidate and amend
the laws for adjusting disputes b,J weep masters and their ser-
♦su.ts, &c. He observed that the bill was of very great im-
portance to the mannfactuiing districts ; that it bad coat a
good deal of trouble to prepare it ; that it inerite I the particular
sttention of members in general, and of the members eonnectcd
with manufacturing distriCts in particular ; and that if the bill
could be usefully altered or amended, he should be glad to
receive the suggestions of hon. members.
Rcud a first tinmousd ordered to be read a second time on
Monday neat.
Mr. Aldermen WOOD presented a petition from Jobs Wil.
llamson, of itasingliell.street, complaining of the frequent viola-
tion of graves, and praying that the House would adopt
mss-
sores to prevent the repetition of such repulsive violation of
sanctuaries of the dead.—The petition was then read and
ordered to be printed.
Mr. Sergeant ONS LOW moved for leave ►o bring in a bill
to repeal the laws regarding usury. H t observed that he did
not proceed no his own opinion only ; he was strengthened by
that of a committee of the House on the subject.—Leave given
to bring ins bill.
i BELA riD.—Mr. C. GRANT said, that there was an opinion
before the public that the right hem president of t:.13 hoard of
controul had asserted in that house that all lrisb administrations
previi.us to that of Lord ,Wellesley had been partial in the ad-
ministration of justice ; he wished to know whether the right
hon. gent. bad said any thing... the kind.
Mr. C. W YNN was glad of the opportunity of stating, that
he bail never asserted any thing of the kind ; he bad never felt
sach sentioumt to be just.
L.ts:cot.si Pcrtriuti.—Mr. PELHAM presented the Lincoln
reform petition.
Mr. A. SMITH observed that not more than 500 persons
were precient ; that it was the result of waggon oratory ; and
taut it was not tube considered, in its full .neaning, as the Lin-
nolo petition.
Mr. R. HERON expressed his astonishment at the descrip-
tion given of the meeting, given by one who was not present at
it. Whoever gave the information he knew not—bathe would
advise the bon. member nut &gain to treat to such authority.—
'1 here were ten times the ntnnber•present that had been present
at the condoling and loyalty meetings. And it could not he
Galled is radical meeting, for there were not twenty hands held
up in favour of the radios' amendment. (A laugh.) Time :ailicals
were on that day at Ituatoe—a very radical place; they were
there otherwise engaged.
Mr. ell APLIN said that there were not 1000 persons pre-
sent at the meeting.

Colonel JOHNSTON had seconded the petition, and be now
spoke in support of it. No nun was solicited to attend the
meeting, which might account for its not being much 4..rowded.
--Read and ordered to be primed.
Lord MILTON presented a petition from the county of York,
for reform, &c. It had been, lie might say, agreed to unani-
mously, at a meeting ten times more numerous than the Lincoln
meeting. Ahout sixteen years ago there was • strongly cog-
tested election for Yurkshire, when 23,000 voted, after loavina
esusackxil even the lanes and Ober 431 London ;—this petition
was ti6ucil by 17,030 fret.buldur►, whose reeidurioes were gives

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as well as their names. (Hear ) lie believed there were not
above 50 signatures to which any legal objection could be
made; some trustees, come freeholJera of Hull, anti by two or
three of the see who were not yet eritteated i.:th votes. (Ilear,
bear.) He need not say he approved of the petition ; but lie
wished now to add, that the great change of opinion there bad
been worked in his mind on the subject or rtfuriu had beer
produced on the conduct of the liouse.—(!leer, bear.)--He
felt that the House did not discharge its duty, as be thought
it ought to do. towards the people; and lie wits also persuaded
Viet the people were the best judges of the honest conduct of
(Hear-, bear.) 'flue people wield not be good
judges of financial matters, nor of foreien rllslrs ; but of the
honest conduct of Parliament, they were judges on which they
could rely. They were too much disposed to look on those
beneath them as their Inferiors in intiermation ; hat auckconduct
was not wise and polities in them.
Mr. S. WORTLEY seconded the motion for bringing up
the petition. He did not deny that it was signed by a mejerity
of the Yorkshire freeholders, and that it nitrate the considera-
tion of the House I however he must enter his protest tgaisist its
prayer. lie believed that the House did diacharge its duty to
the people. When the constitution of the House could he so
&metaled, as in his opinion to discharge wore completely its
duty towards the people, he would consent to change—not '
till then.
Lord MILTON then brought up the petition. Its bulk
being neatly as much as the noble lord could carry, excited
much attention and mertimitit ; and the amusement was not
diminished by t e clerks baring to enrol the f:etition to get at
the language of it. It was of amazing length, the unfolding of
it Laving oecupi.d several minutes of the aetive labours of the
clerks. The petition was then read at length.
Mr. SYKES spoke in support of the petition. The free-
holders had beets asked whether they would support an appeal
to that House, and more than three fourths of the freeholders
had supported that appeal by this petition. To the conduct of
the late member fur Liverpool, and who te—r holds a Fionlittent
station in bia Majesty's councils (Mr. Cawing), lie believed
they were mainly indebted for the auectas of this petition.—
(Hrar, bear.)—The question, he thought, had been fully put to
the county ; to his 'Mud it had been most couclueively
answered.

Petition ordered le be printed.
Mr.IIOIIROCSE presented a petition from an individual
against the Chancellor of the Escheyurea Intermediate Duty
on the Beer Bill, Be complained that new premises, &u. would
be required according to the bill, that might be remedied.
Petition ordered to he printed.
FoREIGN NEGOCIATIONS.—Mr. CANNLNC moved an ad-
dress to his Majesty for additional limpets respecting the Dego-
cialions about Spain and Portugal.
Mr. WARRE wished to know, whether at Verona the five
Powers agreed to • treaty, undertaking to assist Prance iu the
attack on Spain.
Mr. CANNING did not believe that any ssuli instrument was
signed at Verona ; he bad never heard of any such undertaking
haring been signed. Address agreed to.
Lord PALMERSTON presented • petition from the UM-
: versity of Cambridge, praying the Howse to ado; t measures to
prevent the increase of the slave trade, sad to ameliorate the
condition of the slaves.

Petition ordered to be printed.
Mr. CANNING moved that the House, at its rising, do ad •
porn to Thursday.—Agreed to.
ROMAN. CATHOLICS.—GeneraI ARCIIDALE presented va-

lions petitions from Enniskillen against the Catholic
Colonel TRENCH bore testimony to o previously alleged
fact, that P,iests interfered in elections. They had dome so at
the recent Dublin election ; they might not he in the hustings,
but they exercised a terrific kinetics elsewhere, even in their
places of worship, before the congregations had risen limn their
knees.
Mr. 1.. WHITE.: said, that the charge was unfounded re-
specting the interference of priests in Accent elzetions iu Ire.
sand.

Mr. 11. WHITE also declared that the charges were false
and groundless. The priests might have fell an interest in the
electian, especially when they we.s. told that one of the candi-
dates was against them. The lion. member said he bad not ha-
rangued the people and the priests from the. attars. He had
pledged himself to ►upport the Catholic' Claims. The other
candidate said he always would oppose them.
TNI SIIEIIIII/ of Dlthilt4.—Sir F. BURDETT then• pur-
suant t 3 his notice, rose to bring forward his motion respecting
the recent trials in Ireland, and the conduct of the Sheriff of
Dublin, as regarded the summoning the Grand Jury on that cc-
cesium The hon. baronet entered into a review of all the tran-
sactions connected with this case, as detailed in the debates of
Tuesday last, and urged that, upon the statement of Mr.
l'lualet ou that occasion, it was evident that nmtluiry juto the
conduct of the Sheriff, with regard 40 summoning the Jury was
necessary. Ile therefore conoluded lay moving, that from the
statement made by his Majesty's Atturney-Genetal for Ireland,
in that Muse, MI a former night, it appeared indispensably ne-
cessary that itiquiry into the conduct of die Sheriff of
as related to the receut legal proceedings iu Ireland, respecting
the riots at the Theatre, tau the 14th of Dec. last, should tale

place.
Mr. PLUNKETT opposed the motion as unnecessary.
r. DEN Al AN supported it.
Mr. illtOW'N LOW also supported Om motion. The various
reports in circulation, min Melly one which stated that the bot-
tle was thrown at the Lord Lieutenant limo the Pitt, and not
the gallery, as stated at the trials, reentered miquiry ne-
m usury.
Mr. GOCLIILIHN slmngly opposed the motion. He could
assure his hon. friend 'twee was not the slightest foundation fur
the story to which be had alluded, or for many others that were
in circulation. He contended, as his right Lon. friend, the
Solicitor General, had done before him, that a Court of. Justice
and not the House of Commons, was the proper place fur in-
quiry into this subject.
Colonel HARRY would agree in this opinion, if the delin-
quency of the Sheriff was confined to one single act ; but as
there was a series of acts charged, elTeetnal enquiry could only
eke pl ace in that House, and for that reason lie should sumort
the motion of the lion. baronet.

Mr. CANNING gave his decided negative to aloe motion.
Ilr. BROUGHAM as strongly argued in its favour.
The House then divided,
For the motion 219
Agsiust it 163
Majority AGAINST Ministers Si"!
The House to go into the s'onimittee on F Way.
The oilier Gillet a were disposed of, and the House adjourn-
ed at half-part tine.

TIIIIRADAY, APRIL 24.
!nd J. RussEl.'s muuun ou the subject of Reform attracted
considerable crowda; and when the gallery was of en.•d at
three o'clock, it was filled ill a few remotes, and the imeccbec
ifterwaids crowded.

131 .

Mr. CANNING appeared at the Bar, and presented from his
Majesty, pursuant to an aildrens hf the Room, additional pa-
pers reit' eting the recut uegociatious regarding France.
Spain. and Portegsl.
Accounts from the Liverpcel Dock Company, the Southwark
Court of Requests, &c. were presented, and ordered to be
printed.
Sir J. YORKEpreaented a petition from certain Trustees
against the Southwark Court of Requests' BM. Ordered to
lie ou the tattle.
Sir J. GRARAM presented a petition, with similar prayer,
from John Prinsep,
FR ESCII CA PT uaE. Mr. BROUGHAII wished to milk
whether the Adlnirally had received any intelligence of the
capture of a Spanish corvette in thin West Indies, five or sit
weeks ago, by a French cruiser ? If it were true, the French
had been built, of on act of piracy that world warrant Iles
Lansing of the whole of the clew ; or of the grossest perGdy.
as the letter of marque mu.t have been issued by the Freed*
Government near three months ago, and at the very moment
that the late '14;04.664ms for peace were carrying on. He could
nut help adding, that to make this caplare the more palatable
to the people of this . uuutry, the vessel was insured iu
Lou-
doe. _

Sir G. CLERK replied that he had no other information ow
the subject, other than r. hat was possessed by the iron. and
learned gentleman and the pohlie.
SUIISOLK PETITION.—Mr. GOOCH, in lb* performance of
his duty, presented a petition from susoik, praying for Parli-
amentary Reform ; at the same time he felt it to bs his duty to
state. that he could not support it. prayer,
Ordered to lie printed.
NukNOLL Purtl tem.—Mr. COKE presented a petition
(Cobbett's) from the Circuity of Norfolk, for a Reform, Re-
duction of the Interest of the Debt, &c.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, he Ind been the uniform support-
er of Reform ; but such a petitiou would make him vote against
all Reform. Ile was persuaded that such a farrago of absurdity
could only come Clots the thorough etwiniea of Reform. He
was persuaded of the necessity of some reform ; and that if it
were lint granted, the country would souuer or late: feel the
evil cousequenees of neglecting reform.
Mr 11. GGRNEY gave sonic account of the proceedings at
that meeting—of the appearance of Mr. Cobbett—and of this
noises that took place, especially when Mr. Cohltett's
Lions were put—ltiere were 5 or 6,000 persons present, and
very few of them even beard the resolutions. About 200 ware
against them, and $OO for them—hut they held ap their bands
by mistake. Though this was not the petition of the county of
Norfolk, it merited attention, as it came from one of the acute*
and ablest writers of the present day, who however was acres.
hinted to mingle exaggerated truths with much falsehood.—.
Petition ordered to be printed,
Mr. COKE presented petitions from Handreds of Qrstenthoev
&c. complaining of distress, but disavowing the Norfollepeti:
Lion. _ _

Mr. COKE spoke of the general correctness of Mr. Carney%
representation of the Norwich meeting. Ile stood within tWO
of Mr. Cohbett, and he paid all possible attertio• ; but there
was suck a noise that he could only now sod thee beat a word
Gum Mr. C.
Petition ordered to be ismist4.
Mr. WODEHOUSE presented a petition from Itembieyud,
disavowing the Noriolk
A number of petitious were presented spinet time Coat
dutie-. _ _

Sir F, BURDEFT postponed for • week. the Contetittee of
Inyuiry reepertin4 the recent Irish Triels.
PAULI AM ENT ARY

Lord J. RUSSELL lironlit forward bis motion, detailing
the defects of the present state of the representation. It was
particularly proved by the votes, sometimes rather favourable
to Ministers, then againd them. Ilia plan of Reform was si-
milor to that detailed last year ; to ad.: one intidred inembtre
to the couloies, iJO Irons the Boroughs, &o. Be con-
eluded with enuring, that the state of the Representation re-
quired the most serious oousidi ration of Parliament.
Lord NORMANDY seconded the motion.
Mr. RICARDO thought that if elected by the people, the
same gentlemen who now conatituted it would be area acting
very d.fferently to what they do now ; be would, however.,
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