The Sun.
London, England, 1855-05-11 00:00:00

TEE TOBACCO TRADE.

On the motion of Mr. H. G. LANGTON, returns
were ordered of the several seiznrcs malt., and of the
prosecution.; for breach of the laws relating to tol.acco,
between the sth day of January, 1852, and the sth day
of January, 1855—distinguishing those in Great Britain
from those in Ireland ; specifying the places where,
and the names of the persons prosecuted, or
from whom the seizures were made ; the quanti-
ties and kinds of goods seized • the precise nature
of the offences charged or for which the seizures were
made ; the results of the examinations of the goods by
analysis or otherwise, when seized for adulteration ;
whether any and what judicial proceedings were taken
in each case ; the result of such proceedings, whether
convicted or otherwise ; amount of fine paid, or impri-
sontnent suffered • whether the goods seizel were con-
demned or restored (io far as relates to the Exoise branch
of Inland Revenue, and in continuation of Parliamen-
tary paper, No. 364 of session 1852-3).
ORDER OF BUSINESS ON MONDAY.

Mr. RICARDO wished to ask the noble tord at the
head of the Government what business he proposed to
bring forward on Monday ? There were two bilis in

N hid' he took some interest—one, the stamp on bankers'
drafts, and the other partnerships' bill--and he wished to

a-k when they would- be brought forward ?It wai gene-
rally supposed they would be 1-.,rought forward on Mon-
day, but that arrangement had been altered by p:e-
cadence being given to the motion of the hon. member
for Aylesbury.

Lo;c1 PALMERSTON replied that there were seve-
ral motions of importance before the house which should
be advanced a stage before these measures were pro-
posed. It should, however, be fully made known be-
fore the house adjourned this evening what course the
Government would pursue with regard to them.
Sir S. NORTHCOTE said that, with regard to the
Partnerships Bill, so strong a feeling existed in the
country with regard to it, that he thought it ought to be
introduced in the other house if there was no probabi-
lity of its being introducel there.
Lord PALMERSTON said it should be proceeded
with on the earliest day consistent with the state of
other public business.
TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATIONS WITH
THE SEAT OF WAR.

Mr. GROGAN wished to ask the noble lord at the
head of the Government, whether it was true, as re-
ported, that a telegraphic message had that day been
received kora the seat of war—and, if so, what was its
purport ?
Lord PALMERSTON—I can assure the house there
can be no possible disposition on the part of the Govern-
ment to withhold any information, good or bad, which
is interesting to he known. I zm informed that the sub-
stance of the information received to-day is in the even-
ing papers relative to the attack on part of our lines by
the Russians, and which attack was defeated with great
eallantryand success on the part of ourtroops. But I would
just suggest this for consideration :—These telegraphic
despatches necessarily came to us in cypher. Every-
body conversant with these matters knows that if you
get the cypher on the one side and the decypber on the
other, the cypher is very soon of no use. Therefore it
is impossible for the Government, in communicating in-
telligence coming by telegraph in cypher, to give the
precise words, or anything approaching to the frecise
words. (Hear, hear.)
LORD RAGLAN'S DESPATCHES.
_ _

On the motion that the house, at its rising, do adjourn
until Monday,

Lord HOTIIAM said he was anxious to take the
liberty of asking the noble lord at the head of the Go-
vernment a question connected with a notice given by
tho honourable and learned gentleman the member for
Sheffield, and which was on the paper for the
day. It would be in the recollection of the
house that on the occasion of the examination of the
Duke of Newcastle before the Sebastopol Committee,
his grace laid before the committee a despatch written
by himself to Lord Raglan, containit g the orders of the
Go, enineut with respect to the expedition to the Crimea
and the siege of Sebastopol. The production of that
despatch necessarily created a desire to see the reply re•
turned by Lord Raglan. The committee did not, however,
exercise its authority in calling for the production of
that roll', but instructed the chairman to c iminunicate
with the Government as to the propriety of its being
produced. He theref ,re wished to ask the noble lord
whether he could give an assurance that, consistently
with his public duty, he could still present to the house
such extracts as should not b evitably alter the tenor
and c! aracter of be original, and should give a fair and
consistent account of the opinions of Lord Raglan on
this important topic.

Lord.PALMEiISTON said that no doubt it woutrl be
in the power of the Government to give that despatch in
such a shape as would completely answer the objects of
the committee.

THE MAYNOOTEI COMMISSION.
Colonel GREVILLE asked the Chief Secretary for
Ireland whether it is true that Mr. O'Ferrall, one of the
commissioners for inquiring into the College of May-
nooth, and the two secretaries to the commission, have
been summoned to London, and examined as to the cir-
cumstances connected with the transmission of the evi-
dence and report to Rome, and the alleged additions a, d
arterai rns in the evidence without the knowleilga or
sane ion of the commisiioner..

Mr. HORSMAN, in reply, said it was true thEt the
gentlemen referred to 'nad arrived in London ; and from
inquiries made of them, he could afford the explanations
required by the hon. gentleman. The only alterations
were, that when the evidence was seen by the R ,man
Catholic dignitaries whose territorial trifles were
not recognised by the socr,taries, those prelates
insisted upon inserting their titles. The honoura)ile
gentleman then went through c irrespondence at some
length from Earl Ha,rowby and other commissioners,
in order to prove that the evidence now before the
house was, in fact, the same as that taken before them.
In regard to the assertion of the member for North
Warwickshire that territorial titles were given in evi-
dence, did not rest on good authority ; and with respect
to the evidence having been transmitted by Dr. Culien
to Rome, and underwent many changes and corrections,
it was true that the evidence was left with Dr. Cullen,
which was an irregularity he had no wish to explain or ex-
tenuate ; but the documents showed that the evidence
now before the house, if compared with the original
transcript, would be found word for word. The hots.
gentlemen entered into other charges made by the hon.
member for North Warwickshire, and said if be thought
further inquiry necessary, the Government had no ob-
jection to grant it, and the commissioners courted it.
Mr. SPOONER rose and was
[LEFT SPEAKING.'

ARMY BEFORE SEBASTOPOL COM-
MITTEE.-(THIS DAY.)

(Continued from our first edition. )

The examination of Lord Hardinge continued—The
Commander-in-Chief of forces out of the country re-
ported home to the Government, and in the event of
the non-professional per,-ens forming the Cabinet differing
from his opinions, and if he acted on their instructions
he would not of course be responsible for the result ; he,
however, conferred with the Government and gave them
his opinion on military matters ; he was answerable as
Commander-in-Chief for the organisation and composi-
tion of the army, the medical arrangements, accoutre-
ments for the cavalry and infantry, and the transport
service in this country. When abroad it came under the
Commissariat Department, with the assistance of the
Commander-in-Chief of the troops. Nothing wai so
bad and weakening to an army as its having to under-
go a long sea voyage. The duty of the Ajutant-General
was to look after the discipline of the ca np, and the
Quartermaster-General the movements of the camp,
and they both gave orders in their separate departments
to the Commissariat. In February and Alay, 1854,
10,000 troops were ordered off for the first expedition,
and very shortly after they were augmented to nearly
25,000, which was to be their proportion for the E-st,
and on that he made arrangements acc .rdingly for au..•
menting his resources. The first reserve forwarded'
was seven battalions under General Cathcart. con-
sistiog of 6,000 inen, who, instead of remaining at Varna,
went on to the Crimea, and was at the battle of Alma.
The second reserve of 6,500 men was forwarded after
the battle of Inkerman, and 9,003 more by the end of
December, amounting in the whole to 21,508, being as
near as possible the number of troops he had to provide;
so that, notwithstanding the deaths at Varna and at
Ealaklava, up to the end of December. the force he had
provided was equal to the force that first went out, and,
including the artillery, rather stronger. The peace esta-
blishment being low after he had sent out 25,000 troops,
he could do no other than send out young recruits, who,
instead of being composed of bone and muscle, were only
griezle ; and the difference between the state of the army
in 1808 and that in the Crimea was, that they had at
the former period, in addition to a large regular force,
a militia raised to a high state of efficiency—the men
being from 35 to 40 years of age—from which to draw
reserves, and who were capable of undertaking hard
work—a very different class from the raw recruits of
19 years of age, whom it was impossible to expect
could withstand the hard work and resist the climate
of the Crimea, to the same extent the men did in 1808.
He thought the Duke of Newcastle acted wisely in bring-
ing home the 9 or 10 battalions from the Colonies who
were used as reserves, and explained the reason why the
troops were not sent home from the Cape when sent for
from some misunderstanding arising as to the orders for-
warded. He then entered into the effect of increasing
the army by high bounties had on the service, giving
it as his opinion that it was the cause of increasing de-
sertion. Out of 1,000 men he found not above 20
volunteered from the militia. He considered the artillery
was equal to, if not better than aty other artillery, arid
added that everything was done that was necessary for
tl.e army to t die the field in the Crimea. His lordship
then entered into the communication forwarded by Dr.
ix:i,,• Farerti,t.h,sto the Horse-Guards, respecting the clothing,.
gopiniou thactesl
sample
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the articles
anda Lprprildeducteod
theto mtheen,caontugiattveee
ita
cs his
of our troops
litary commandantwasie had al wa3s considered the
Pa defective. He thought that when
a military our
apply in case of .organised there should be a mi-
neactesi 1,5 head to whom persons could
sp?nsible for the co
opinion and who could be held re-
hi his of the patients. He was of
opinion a person of
rank and influence than
Major Sillery should tia,!e bre
Raglear'n Placed over the hospitals
not have spared
at Scutari, and if Lord
one for one to have been seat thisfrcati Co_
under Lord
afterwardsT Ch a i done.rmall —Were not the hospitals
country as was
command, but
Raglan's command ?
Lord ilardinge--They were nizihr his