The National Register.
London, England, 1822-06-17 00:00:00

TUESDAY, JUNE 11.

Mr. CREEVEY postponed his motion, which stood for to-
day, respecting the ministerial pension act, till the 26th inst.--
lie then moved a series of resolutions on the subject, and one
particularly regarding the pension (of 30001.) recently granted
to Lord Sidtuoutli.
Sir J. N 6W PORT moved for returns of all deductions from
public salaries in Ireland, and the authority on which they were
made. Ordered.
Mr. HUME moved for accounts of lands, quit-rents, &c. in
Ireland, belonging to the Crown, sold under the Ilenb Geo
Ordered.
Mr. HUME then moved for an account of the present income
of the crown lands in Ireland.
Sir G. HILL said that these returns would be •ery
volumi-
nous, and that they wentheyond what the lion. member wanted;
he ouly requited to know what had been done by the commissiou
now existing in In-land. It would be better that the motion
should stand di a notice. The motion was withdrawn for the
present.
Sir J. NEWPORT presented the second report of the coin-
' !Mitre on grand jury presentments. He should move for leave
to bring in • Bill founded on the report. Report ordered to
be printed.
SAIT TAX.—Sir W. LEMON presented a petitiow from flab
carers and others in Cornwall, against the modification of the
salt tax, as contemplated by mini.ters. The promise of draw-
backs on the exportation of fish would nut resuedy the evil. He
thought there was but one remedy, the abandonment of the tax

altar:Wier.
Mr. C. E. RUMBOLD. (member for Yarmouth) supported
the petition.
tier L FERGI.7OI4I said, that what •sas set forth by Corn.
it•a:! tr plied to all the ktrstrah beheries. He trained that the

Chancellor of the Exchequer would give up the whole of
the tax.
Mr. D. GILBERT said the question concerned the whole
kingdom, not Cornwall alone. Peeling grateful for the e.oncea'
Mons made by the Chancellor of the Laclimper—perhaps he
hail made concessiatia ample e iimigh—(cries of no, no)—he was
ceece.m.al th.tt this c0ne...06011 was left so he-m.1.'11,1e. He Is
melted that the Chance Iler of the Exchequer bad. left cause
of complaint in this inalance.—Judging float the qeontities
cured in Cornwall, the proposed urnlihctttimt would &mule:, as
a tax, to 40,0001. in that county alone. He trusted that the
Chancellor of the Exchequer would propose the reduction of the
2s. as it would be most useful; but if the proposition did not
come from that quarter—if it came from any other member, he
abould resist the reduction.
Mr. TRAMAYN E was persuaded that the 2s. duty would
be most injurious to the trade, and he saw no way out of the
difficulty, but by abandoning such remainder of the tax.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY said, that the partial repeal would
effect more injury than relief. He also spoke of the injurious
tendency of the proposed regulations regarding glass bottle ma-
nufacturers. He trusted they too would not be persevered in.
Sir 11. VIVIAN was persuaded that the Chancellor of the
Exchequer was not aware of the vast extent of mischief that
would result 'rout continuing a part of the tax. He hoped it
would be given up altogether.
Mr.bRIGH'S also spoke against the partial repeal of the salt
tax. lie contended that here they had an instance of the
thoughtless mode of taking of the taxes. It wee removing the
burden from some, and planing it on the shouldere of others.
Lord A. HAMILTON should reserve himself till theßill was
introduced ; hut he was surprised that, proceeding on the
articles of (titian, Scotland was not to be exempted from the 2s.
tax. He was for the abandonment of the whole tax.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that pro-
ceeding on the act of union, it was his intention that Scotch salt
should be exempt from duty. AN ith respect to Ireland, he
should propose ruuditirctions; 2s. on white salt, and Is. 6d. on
rock. He was not disposed to remit—but still he thought the
regulations were susceptible of some alleviations.
Mr. CALCRAFT observed that the right lion, gent. hail not
involved himself in difficulties from a hasty reductian of taxes,
but from the hasty imposition of a new salt tax on helpful.—
The retention of a pnrtial tax was surrounded with dillicultiec.
AS to the boon to Scotland, it was good as far as it went ; but
the Scotch liaheries used British salt. It would be better at
mice to give up the paltry remnant of the tax.
Mr. HUME likewise spoke against retaining the 2s. tax, and
said another class, besides those already mentioned, would be
injured by it, namely, the bleachers.
Mr. WODEIIOtSE condemned the continuation of the tax.
Sir J. NEWPORT said, the tax an proposed to be contiuued
would be very serious in its operation in Ireland.
Mr. CAR l'W RIGHT thought such was the sensation of the
country, that it would be better to repeal the tax altogether ; to
be enabled to do this, it would be better to suspend the inten-
tion of repealing bail the leather tax, which be understood
would make no changes in the price of leather.
Mr. W. Smith, Mr. H. Hutchinson, Sir I. Coffin, and Mr.
Curwen, also spoke in favour of the whole repeal.
Mr. T. WILSON said, he was not prepared to support the
whole repeal, except they would show how the deciency wan
to be replaced. He was not for repealing taxes, except it was
proved bow they could be replaced.
Mr. LEICESTER supported the total rare'.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD trusted that Ireland would not he
burdened with this tax, for it would be the greatest injury to
her sinking trade.
Sir H. FERGUSON spoke of the small amount of the salt
duty collected from the Scotch fisheries. It was about 14,0001.
it did not pay the officers.—Petition brought up anti reed.
Mr. G. !SENN El' moved, that the Alehouse Isieensiii,g Bill
be recommitted, and that all who attend the committee base
•Jices.—Agreed to.
Petitions against the remaining salt tax were presented from
Great Yarmouth, Arbroath, &c.
Mr. MANNING presented a petition from the Corporation of
Bridetvell, proving to he heard by counsel against the Prisons
Laws' Consoliiintiou Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Ald. BRIDGES presented a petition from watch end clock
makers te;:ainst the warehousing bill, which the petition strongly
condemned as a most ruinous measure.

Alderman tVOLID also supported the petition. The peti-
ti.mers had already experienced great distress ; they bad been
rut out from the foreign trade, and this bill went to destroy
the home trade. This petition came from Middlesex.
Mr. Wi ALI. kCE said, when the 11;11 came forward, he should
be prepared to defend it ; now. he thought, was not the proper
time to detain the House.---Petition ordered to be printed.
Mr. BIRCH presented a petition from Nottiugliatn, com-
plaining of 'iamb suctions.
Mr. W ESTER . rose to bring forward his motion on the
subject of the currency. He saw what calamitous results had
fitllowed the bill changing the currency, and he could not neg-
lect bin duty lan far as not to bring the subject before the
House. He did not intend, in his complaint's, to arraign the
government ; his hon. friends hail supported, if not originated
it ; but as there was no infallibility, the ablest men 'night at
times commit eggre.zious errors. There never was a snore ca-
lamitous measure. Statesmen bad never committed a greater
error. All the dilliculties of the country resulted from that
fatal measure. There were permement evils, such as the poor
rates and laws, but they had continued for years. The country
had thriven and prospered under them, amid would have pros-
pered yet but for such bill. It operated injuriously on all
classes—the manufacturer and tl•e agriculturist—on all except
the fundholder and the ',tibiae. annuitant ; sad if this were true,
was he not right in eallitet diet act a most calnanitous meaure ?
It affected the industry of the country, anal it was calculated
to endanger property. It operated injuriously on all chases of
the community; the industry of all was affected by it. If that
diminished the currency one half, his income, that had been
6001. was reduced to 2501.; but if the value of the currency
was raised one half, the operatiou was in a contrary direction.
—From such operation the country had suffered ; all contracts
bud been ruinously greeted by the Bill. The raising of the
value of money, different from the lowering of ►he %slue of
money, was of most destructive operation. He did not :.ay that
the ruin was limited to the agriculturist;—it eqoally affected
the trader and the merchant ; it lowered the pri •e of stock.--
When the means of raising money were thereby reduced, he
could ■ut fulfil the contracts entered into under a different state
of the currency ; and to raise th a value of the currency, was to
advance all the burdens of the country above all the lase•.
He was astonished that this eubjert had been viewed so Mail
fcrently. It appeared as if an aivance of 10, Li, or 20 pm
cent. of our unparalleled taxation Mere as nothing. The Mi-
meos,. addition to the public burtiene ought to have been first
considered ; but such considerations were neglected, end the
fatal bill wits passed. The hon. gent. concluded by moving for
the anointment ore committee to enquire into the effect which
the act of 1819, for the resumption of eash pay meats be tthe